Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

Just add one more criteria, slightly wider gap between the legs will make you easier to get access to the point.

Jb.Thanks for the tip LOL. I have never tried to fuck a girl with fat thighs. So don't know of any difficulties. Never had to work to find the pussy. Only had to deal with stiff legs scared of penetration types.

Would really scare me to go down on a girl with very powerful or big thighs.

[WaveLength]

And so here we have a newbie who claims to have quotes from establishments both in Bangkok and Koh Samui but who apparently never took a girl. WTF. Hard to believe.

At least he did RTFF.Are you referring to my post? Where did it say I never took a girl? I have taken girls, that's how I got the numbers.

Just curious about if 3000ST and 4000 LT are reasonable or off the mark.

[Paolo99]

Just curious about if 3000ST and 4000 LT are reasonable or off the mark.You say it in your first post. Some girls will ask for 2000ST and others for 3000ST. You're the only one that can judge if it's a reasonable price or not. All depends on the size of your wallet and the service you will receive in exchange.

In my opinion 3000ST is too much, even 2000ST is a lot unless you negotiate 2 pops for the short time.

[Member #4591]

Are you referring to my post? Where did it say I never took a girl? I have taken girls, that's how I got the numbers.

Just curious about if 3000ST and 4000 LT are reasonable or off the mark.If you RTFF, you would know that answer.

[Vittu]

Newbie nonsense.

[SexInStl]

Went to Soi Cowboy spotted a stunner, she gave me a great smile and went into the go go. Spent loads of time and drinks on her, I did have a wonderful time with her but her English was very bad so the verbal communication was not so good, but as the night went on got more and more into her and she was all over me, spoke to mumason about bar fining her but she didn't seem clear if I could or not, I did enjoy myself up to the point I wanted to take her but she only wanted a tip, what a let down, guess I was scammed, put it down to experience.I think that's sort of the deal at Rio. They have a few super cute young looking girls who aren't really go-go dancers, but rather pull you in from the street (usually with a second girl) and have you buy shots for them and you and even the big waitress. 3 shots, 2 cokes, and a bottled water will cost you 1500 Baht. A second round 10 minutes later and you'll be at 3000 Baht.

Don't get me wrong, the right one's will sit there and play with your dick the entire time, basically jerking you off over your pants and even reach inside and grab it for a moment, sit on you and grind, let you rub them over their clothes, make out with you for 100 Baht, etc. , but they're not interested in ST or LT usually. But they also don't much expect a tip afterwards. Their job is to sell drinks, and they must get a cut.

If you have deep pockets, and just want to have some non-actual sex fun (which my GF doesn't mind me doing), they have a few cuties there. 'Pop' is a little sweetheart who is fun to party with.

But yeah. To a monger. This place is just a scam.

[SexInStl]

I was in Crazy House last night and really disappointed with the overall selection, but I saw an amazing girl looking bored with one of the dumb college guys not wanting to buy her a drink. So. Hey, I'll buy you a drink. About 5'6 in heels, nice natural be+ boobs, small waist, perfect rounded ass, shaved pussy. Naked at all times.

She was #53 and once I got her a drink, she was sensual and on me. Couldn't take out last night, so I just enjoyed her in the club, but man oh man.

Anyone know of this girl?

[Wolvenvacht]

Just curious about if 3000ST and 4000 LT are reasonable or off the mark.For a girl from an agogo club, my LT target is between 3000 and 4000 baht (plus barfine). For a lady from a beerbar, I'd discount that by at least 1000 baht.

Your prices are within a resonable margin of being OK.

[Wolvenvacht]

Thanks for the tip LOL. I have never tried to fuck a girl with fat thighs. So don't know of any difficulties. Never had to work to find the pussy. Only had to deal with stiff legs scared of penetration types.

Would really scare me to go down on a girl with very powerful or big thighs.Last year I attended a gangbang party in Belgium and there was a big Dutch lady offering her services. Easily the best cock sucker I met for a long time. She had large but firm tits with nice nipples to play with. All quite different from the Thai girls I usually prefer, but change of style keeps us happy.

Anyhow, after I gave her yummy pussy a good licking, I tried to fuck her in missionary and noticed that due to her big thighs, I only could get the tip of my cock in her. Doggy-style was even worse because of her phat ass. So I had to turn her around again and fuck her tits, which was quite enjoyable. She's a very sexy and horny lady and not fat at all, just strongly built. But all the same, out of my league. I will have to grow a few more inches to do her properly. Or perhaps, stick with my Thai cuties. We are more compatible size-wise. LOL.

[DrMcNaughty]

I only had 8 days to play. I figured what better way to celebrate my last 40's birthday than Thailand. I went with a different approach the tinderville tactics. I put a week or so of time lining up a 8 prospects before I had arrived. I was hoping to hook up for non pro fun. I made my decision after meeting girls 2&3 two bi spinners both 5 ft 85-90'ers, 19 Fah &20 Noon years old. They were down for a trip to Koh Samui. I booked flights 4600 b each rt, they went home to pack and came back to spend night at hotel. Had killer play session getting to know my two new friends. I have thing for tiny spinners. I had brought a few XS dresses and micro bikinis to give as gifts. They loved it and I enjoyed the modeling show. After the show I took my new fuck buddies out for a delicious dinner of my favorite cuisine and a few drinks, our tab came out to a whopping equivalent of about 22 usd. I had rented a sweet 1 br bungalow w pool walking distance to 4 epic beaches for 38 $ a night. We caught 730 flight and we settling into a place by 945 am. We spent 5 days there did the whole shroomy shake full moon party. Snorkeled and sup'd every day. Killer sup paddling there! Both girls were dtf anytime I wanted. We had wild afternoon on small beach we paddled to. Fah the 19 year old was into anal and so am I! So the 3 hole option was welcomed! Haha CIM, COF cia. Best birthday ever! The whole trip including rt from lax and I gave each girl $250 when we parted ways back in BKK was $2500.

I will definitely be heading back for another week of play with Fah & Noon. Next time I will have time for a week or so of debauchery in Pattaya. Perfect 50th celebration! Cheers.

[Wimble]

Last year I attended a gangbang party in Belgium and there was a big Dutch lady offering her services. Easily the best cock sucker I met for a long time. She had large but firm tits with nice nipples to play with. All quite different from the Thai girls I usually prefer, but change of style keeps us happy.

Anyhow, after I gave her yummy pussy a good licking, I tried to fuck her in missionary and noticed that due to her big thighs, I only could get the tip of my cock in her. Doggy-style was even worse because of her phat ass. So I had to turn her around again and fuck her tits, which was quite enjoyable. She's a very sexy and horny lady and not fat at all, just strongly built. But all the same, out of my league. I will have to grow a few more inches to do her properly. Or perhaps, stick with my Thai cuties. We are more compatible size-wise. LOL.LMAO! Reminds me of the African girls I see. You need 10 inches to just get past the butt cheeks! Only leaves me with 2 inches to play with! LOL.

[HI Guy]

Great report and awesome birthday. My b-day is coming up in March and I'm heading to Thailand for a month. Bangkok, Phuket, and Ko Samui to to Ko Tao for some diving. Wondering if you could share some details [Deleted by Admin]


I only had 8 days to play. I figured what better way to celebrate my last 40's birthday than Thailand. I went with a different approach the tinderville tactics. I put a week or so of time lining up a 8 prospects before I had arrived. I was hoping to hook up for non pro fun. I made my decision after meeting girls 2&3 two bi spinners both 5 ft 85-90'ers, 19 Fah &20 Noon years old. They were down for a trip to Koh Samui. I booked flights 4600 b each rt, they went home to pack and came back to spend night at hotel. Had killer play session getting to know my two new friends. I have thing for tiny spinners. I had brought a few XS dresses and micro bikinis to give as gifts. They loved it and I enjoyed the modeling show. After the show I took my new fuck buddies out for a delicious dinner of my favorite cuisine and a few drinks, our tab came out to a whopping equivalent of about 22 usd. I had rented a sweet 1 br bungalow w pool walking distance to 4 epic beaches for 38 $ a night. We caught 730 flight and we settling into a place by 945 am. We spent 5 days there did the whole shroomy shake full moon party. Snorkeled and sup'd every day. Killer sup paddling there! Both girls were dtf anytime I wanted. We had wild afternoon on small beach we paddled to. Fah the 19 year old was into anal and so am I! So the 3 hole option was welcomed! Haha CIM, COF cia. Best birthday ever! The whole trip including rt from lax and I gave each girl $250 when we parted ways back in BKK was $2500.

I will definitely be heading back for another week of play with Fah & Noon. Next time I will have time for a week or so of debauchery in Pattaya. Perfect 50th celebration! Cheers.EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited or deleted because it was an attempt by the author to encourage members to CONTACT HIM on ANOTHER WEBSITE. In the future, please refrain from posting requests for forum members to contact you on another website. Thanks!

[TimTimGuy]

L*snip* I tried to fuck her in missionary and noticed that due to her big thighs, I only could get the tip of my cock in her. Doggy-style was even worse because of her phat ass. So I had to turn her around again and fuck her tits, which was quite enjoyable. She's a very sexy and horny lady and not fat at all, just strongly built. But all the same, out of my league. I will have to grow a few more inches to do her properly. Or perhaps, stick with my Thai cuties. We are more compatible size-wise. LOL.I about laughed my coffee accross the room. I had a very similar experience last week (not in Thailand, in south Asia) where a fat massage girl was bound and determined to give me a good fuck. I was horny enough from an extended trip to places with no pussy to give it a go. Anyway, missionary a problem, cowgirl completely out of the question. I was losing interest (and an erection.) when a somewhat oportunistic solution came to mind. I bent her over the bed and fucked her in doggie position, me standing up. Still a problem for deep penetration because of her "phat ass" (nice one!) but mission accomplished.

[Syzygies]

I about laughed my coffee accross the room. I had a very similar experience last week (not in Thailand, in south Asia) where a fat massage girl was bound and determined to give me a good fuck. I was horny enough from an extended trip to places with no pussy to give it a go. Anyway, missionary a problem, cowgirl completely out of the question. I was losing interest (and an erection.) when a somewhat oportunistic solution came to mind. I bent her over the bed and fucked her in doggie position, me standing up. Still a problem for deep penetration because of her "phat ass" (nice one!) but mission accomplished.Ha ha. I did this gorgeous blonde Croatian bombshell called Pamela, face better than a young Pamela Anderson, body more ordinary, who was a little bit thick around the ass and thighs, in fact my buddies said she was too big for me. However she seemed really quite normal in doggy position, and overall my dream woman for the year (about 3 years back). Beautiful face, beautiful attitude, sent me to heaven. I guess she was only a bit thick though and not really in the fat ass league at all. DATY no problem. Never ever did a "fat" girl. I have tried very large heavy tits, but not on fat girls and not silicones.

My first trip to Thailand, I was shown around a bit by a buddy experienced in Thailand also learning Thai language (but he was more advanced than me). Fortunately my taste in Thai girls was what he referred to as bag of bones types LOL, as he went for very voluptuous types (fatties), mostly with ugly faces. We never ever desired the same Thai girl, so we went well together. LOL.

[Syzygies]

Great report and awesome birthday. My b-day is coming up in March and I'm heading to Thailand for a month. Bangkok, Phuket, and Ko Samui to to Ko Tao for some diving. Wondering if you could share some details Tourists get murdered in Koh Tao. Beware of the Koh Tao police. Oh you are not Burmese, then maybe no problem, at least in terms of being scape goats.

[AquaDreams]

Wandered in there last night around 11 pm on my way back from Tulip, just to check it out. Wow, love the vibe in there. Smaller than I thought it would be, and the women, hotter than I thought they would be, quite a few stunners IMO, mostly focused on younger (than me) and more handsome (than me) Asian customers. A guy got up and left as I was walking around the 1st floor stage so I hopped on one of the red stools. Waitress was quick to take my beer order but not pushy for 2nd. A very organized crew with service and tabs. Good positive sexual energy in the club. Loud, but not too loud. I was pleasantly surprised, flattered really, when one of my faves, #12 (amazing smile, she could model cosmetics) came over and hopped on my lap. Started rubbing my crotch immediately, then DFK while putting my hands on her natural be cup tits. Aggressive minx. After her lady drinks arrived she took me upstairs to one of the booths where it was darker, kept staring into me with that gorgeous smile. Wanted to bar fine her but was tired, travel day & had just been with Opor. Gave her a tip and a rain check, headed back to my hotel. Great place, will be back soon.

[Bad Duck]

Don't know why you are looking for Indian FLs in BKK. There are a few available but the quality and service is bad. A friend of mine took one on soi-5 and was thoroughly disappointed. In any case Indian girls are not sexually liberated like Thai girls and consider sex to be a sin. However if you want good Indian FLs, go to Delhi, Mumbai or Bangalore. Why bother to hunt for a starfish in an ocean full of exotic Thai fish?I second this. Some of the girls in Delhi are really hot and they have what you call the desi look. They'll lack in service but if you treat them right you can make the most of that trip. It's cheap too.

[Shikamaru1993]

Hi everyone,

I am just stepping into the amazing world of punting. This forum has taught me a lot and now I need help from you guys.

I will be spending two days in Bangkok and I plan to experience as much as possible the Sin city has to offer. I have compiled a list of things I want to do and it will be great if you guys can give me recommendations.

1. Soapie.

2. Threesome (Heard of Eden Club but apparently it's shit nowadays).

3. Kinky massage for example prostate massage etc.

4. go go bars, Crazy house? Spankys?

5. Blowjob Bar (wood bar).

Am I missing something?

Thank you all for your help.

[Wimble]

Tourists get murdered in Koh Tao. Beware of the Koh Tao police. Oh you are not Burmese, then maybe no problem, at least in terms of being scape goats.Ouch! Did not know that.

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

I'd like if somebody local to Bangkok could post some more info on Rainbow 5, please.

[AquaDreams]

Last night had a dinner date with a classy lady I had met a few months ago on TF, without a doubt the most beautiful woman I have ever had the pleasure of spending time with. Looking at TripAdvisor reviews of good restaurants near my hotel I decided upon The Local, a mix of rooms, both indoors and outdoors, with a small bar outside in the back. I let her order, 5 dishes, food was amazing, service great, a woman comes around with a basket filled with brown & white rice, you choose and she spoons it onto your plate. Mid-level pricing, popular spot.

The Local.

32-32/1 Sukumvit 23.

After dinner we walked to the Sheraton and took the elevator up to a jazz club, The Living Room. Performing now is the Randy Cannon Group, with Veronica Nunn on vocals, outstanding, very high end classy vibe in the room, my date loved it, was her first time experiencing jazz. She's up for a 2nd date for tonight so I'm excited, she's going to choose a rooftop restaurant.

The Living Room.

Inside the Sheraton, L1.

250 Sukhumvit Rd.

Tuesday. Saturday, 21.15 - 24.00 hrs.

[TheBigBang]

So, I seem to be returning to Bangkok this month.

Previous visits have taken me to the likes of Nataree, Dr BJ, some massage rooms and the like.

Any suggestions towards a nice place to try my first prostate massage? Feeling like it's time to break through that particular glass ceiling haha.

I don't have much time this visit so some location info would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[Syzygies]

I'd like if somebody local to Bangkok could post some more info on Rainbow 5, please.Rainbow 4 used to be quite a big bar on 2nd level of Nana Plaza right side. For some reason, it has changed over to become Twisters, which I like better than the old Rainbow 4, although attend there quite rarely. It just depends on your taste for what type of girls you like.

Meanwhile in the back right hand corner of nana Plaza 2nd level, an old bar (forget what it was) had been redecorated and became "CandyLand". The decoration was horrible in my opinion. Candyland was not successful. It had also bought "Hot Lips" bar in a better location close to Mandarin bar and renamed that to "CandyLand 2". This later bar may now be called simply Candyland. The failed Candyland in the back corner has been taken over by the Rainbow group, and become Rainbow 5 (sometimes also known as moved Rainbow 4). It is smaller than old Rainbow 4. Decoration has improved from the Candyland style.

The girls are far fewer than old Rainbow 4, and are pretty much Baccara style of girls, highly modified with surgeries, be it nose jobs or tit jobs or both. Hairstyles are probably the weird styles similar to Baccara as well (I struggle to remember this clearly). Although I looked in Rainbow 5 a couple of times, they clearly do not have my type of girls, which are more natural Thai looking slim girls. The fake looking barbie doll types are not for me, yet are definitely popular with guys like Banana Boi who wrote he likes this bar better than others at Nana Plaza. Bars I prefer are Billboard and Twisters (just my taste). Don't know if Rainbow 5 is going to do well enough to survive. Its just a shell of the former Rainbow 4. Old RB4 customers may prefer Twisters which has a lot of Japanese customers.

You need some comments of course from someone who is really into RB5.

[ItIsMe83]

Last night had a dinner date with a classy lady I had met a few months ago on TF, without a doubt the most beautiful woman I have ever had the pleasure of spending time with. Looking at TripAdvisor reviews of good restaurants near my hotel I decided upon The Local, a mix of rooms, both indoors and outdoors, with a small bar outside in the back. I let her order, 5 dishes, food was amazing, service great, a woman comes around with a basket filled with brown & white rice, you choose and she spoons it onto your plate. Mid-level pricing, popular spot.

The Local.

32-32/1 Sukumvit 23..If she can't choose: https://www.tripadvisor.nl/Restaurant_Review-g293916-d3179101-Reviews-Above_Eleven-Bangkok.html is a very nice option. Did you stay at the Sheraton as well? I did for a few days and felt it was so rundown. Very disappointing. Their restaurants / bars / lobby are nice tho indeed!

[Wolvenvacht]

Last night had a dinner date with a classy lady I had met a few months ago on TF, without a doubt the most beautiful woman I have ever had the pleasure of spending time with.What? A TF lady you wine and dine and doesn't come to your room on the first date for some horizontal dancing?

The end of the world must be nigh.

[ItIsMe83]

Hi everyone,

I am just stepping into the amazing world of punting. This forum has taught me a lot and now I need help from you guys.

I will be spending two days in Bangkok and I plan to experience as much as possible the Sin city has to offer. I have compiled a list of things I want to do and it will be great if you guys can give me recommendations.

1. Soapie.

2. Threesome (Heard of Eden Club but apparently it's shit nowadays).

3. Kinky massage for example prostate massage etc.

4. go go bars, Crazy house? Spankys?

5. Blowjob Bar (wood bar).

Am I missing something?

Thank you all for your help.I just left Thai from my first trip and I can say: Go to Crazy house! It's a very nice (and chilled out) experience. The Ping-Pong shows at Suzie didn't do anything for me (boring after 10 seconds) and Baccara which everyone seems to like is plastic fantastic. Lot of surgeries. I prefer natural but It's worth hopping in tho just to see the bar itself. Have a drink there.

For 3-some: why not just ask 2 girls at a go-go for a 3 some? Or ask one you like if she has a nice friend she likes to do one with? Might cost you some time tho to get a perfect couple that's also really bi-sexual but there's loads out there who wouldn't mind.

Enjoy! And one thing to remember: you never know how your day will go. You can plan so much but in BKK so much happens that it's hard sticking to one.

[Syzygies]

What? A TF lady you wine and dine and doesn't come to your room on the first date for some horizontal dancing?

The end of the world must be nigh.It is well known that most guys are just looking for a fuck, right? Therefore maybe some girls are testing guys to see if there is more to it than just a fuck.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hi everyone,

I am just stepping into the amazing world of punting. This forum has taught me a lot and now I need help from you guys.

I will be spending two days in Bangkok and I plan to experience as much as possible the Sin city has to offer. I have compiled a list of things I want to do and it will be great if you guys can give me recommendations.

1. Soapie.

2. Threesome (Heard of Eden Club but apparently it's shit nowadays).

3. Kinky massage for example prostate massage etc.

4. go go bars, Crazy house? Spankys?

5. Blowjob Bar (wood bar).

Am I missing something?

Thank you all for your help.You are missing one thing. The most important: "Relax and go with the flow".

That list will have you stressed out as from the first minute.

The beauty of Thailand is that sex is so common and easy and, well, normal but you want to make it into some kind of race. Or one of these horrible "things to do before I die" bucket-lists.

When I first came to Thailand about 7 years ago, I compiled a whole list of (mainly) touristy things to see and do. I still don't have done everything on that list but I did many things not on that list and those were by far the most enjoyable or memorable.

I suggest in the afternoon you walk around the many massage-shops on and around Sukhumvit Road untilou see a lady you fancy and go with her for a happy ending massage. Don't make the beginner's mistake of thinking there will be a better / younger / sexier one just around the corner. Of course there will, but that thought will find you alone in your bed at night, jerking off to the memories of missed opportunities.

In the evening, stroll around Nana or Soi Cowboy. Enjoy the shows and once you have seen enough, grab an agogo dancer smiling at you. Engage her for an LT and experience a night of hot steaming sex or cuddly GFE. Let her deal with your morning wood when you wake up and send her on her way again.

That's the way I think Thailand needs to be experienced.

PS: Bangkok is not Sin City. That is a name originally given to Shanghai, but nowadays Pattaya is arguably more worthy of that crown.

[Wolvenvacht]

It is well known that most guys are just looking for a fuck, right? Therefore maybe some girls are testing guys to see if there is more to it than just a fuck.Sure, she already got that with the dinner and music at the Jazz club. And then she comes to your room. That's how it is supposed to work.

BTW; Something I always wanted to ask. How did you, the uber-monger of the Thai fora on ISG, end up with a Thai GF? I imagine there must be a good story behind that fact.

[Syzygies]

I suggest in the afternoon you walk around the many massage-shops on and around Sukhumvit Road untilou see a lady you fancy and go with her for a happy ending massage. Don't make the beginner's mistake of thinking there will be a better / younger / sexier one just around the corner. Of course there will, but that thought will find you alone in your bed at night, jerking off to the memories of missed opportunities.
I agree with "go with the Flow".

However surely the beginners mistake is to take the first girl that comes to you. Essentially where the girl chose the guy and he did not have any strength to wait for better. Be just a little bit patient I say, and make sure you take time to choose a really good one. I am always prepared to look in several places until something really appeals.

Beginners must accept that they will make plenty of mistakes and learn of course.

If find a an extra special girl, sure go for that in a big hurry lest someone else grabs her, and then you miss out. He who hesitates can loose all.

Have to judge when very fast action is needed and when it is not.

[AquaDreams]

What? A TF lady you wine and dine and doesn't come to your room on the first date for some horizontal dancing?

The end of the world must be nigh.But 2 of the most memorable nights in my life didn't involve sex, last night, and 8 years ago in Shanghai. Went on a date with the daughter of a Chinese general. Dinner at Bali Laguna (Indonesian) then dancing at Lounge 21. Never forget the way she moved on the dance floor. My income wasn't up to family standards so there was no 2nd date, a solid 8 looker. Last night, she's a 9, worth a bit of effort.

[Syzygies]

BTW; Something I always wanted to ask. How did you, the uber-monger of the Thai fora on ISG, end up with a Thai GF? I imagine there must be a good story behind that fact.No I am no Uber Monger. I am somewhat sex addicted, although can go weeks without a fuck.

When we were young and stupid, we all wanted adoring wives or girlfriends who would kiss and cuddle us all the tie and fuck our brains out as well. Reality was different.

I chose the wrong Farang girl to be my wife. Later I thought, new girlfriends will be very different. Yes they all have very different problems. The common theme was they all lack the same levels of sexual desire that I have. I would like to have sex at least 5 times a week, maybe the odd day off. I do enjoy sex with the GF, however it lacks frequency. 1 per week is not good enough. She may well get 5 orgasms in a sex about and that leaves her satisfied for far too long. I get 1 pop and am ready for more, later the same day.

The last girlfriend was acquired accidentally. Sort of fell into it gradually without making a definite decision. Sure she was pretty and a great body, and sex was good the first time, and she wasn't serious at first, in fact I was looking after her a little when she was in poor health for a few weeks. She did expect me to be faithful to her from the start however, in the sense that I could not have 2 girlfriends. Initially I was just trying different girls to see how I liked them and if compatible, at all. It takes far too long to tell. Girls change there manner once the relationship becomes permanent. Become less fun. Sex frequency drops off.

Later it becomes clear that many Thai girls generally accept that men will monger. Its so normal in Thailand for men to visit the Soapy or similar sometimes.

Surely I have learned to avoid acquiring a dependent GF. Too late now. Not easy to just dump them after a long time. Some how after previous GF went bad (after 4 years), I had failed to learn that I was much better off without a permanent GF.

I have to travel a lot for work. This makes me well used to living alone. Therefore I am much better off without a woman restricting me and using up resources of time and money. Benefits of a GF are not good enough for me.

Even girls that claim to need sex daily, I have found are bullshitting, with rare exceptions. I have never really found a woman who craves orgasms every single day.

Once we have mongered for long enough, we are wrecked. We have got used to 18 YO girls with perfect high boobs, no baby, no saggy anywhere, and willing to fuck, and even give a GFE. What is more we got used to a stable of these young seemingly "horny" girls. Yet in the real world we are not James Bond able to pull all these chicks, and keep replacing them continually. Outsourcing the sex is definitely working better for most us.

Maybe some guys on here can get the majority of their sex needs met by a wife or GF, but I have only experienced that for shorter periods of less than one year, and most of those highly sexed girls were too Psycho to actually live with.

I would rather perhaps be some girl's 2nd boyfriend, that she sees part time when the main BF is missing, and does not actually live with full time. I don't have the jealous streak that is concerned about who else a girl is fucking. I only care what she provides to me. I tried this scheme more than once. It usually happens when the girl's main relationship is lacking something.

[AquaDreams]

Called me and asked if I wanted to meet a bit earlier at Terminal 21, have coffee and browse shops before dinner, she was there already. Warning lights begin to flash. Met up at Starbucks. Says she has a work mate's daughter's wedding to go to soon, showed me the dress she bought online, but needs shoes to go with. So we look at shoes and sure enough, she expects me to pay. Had my reply set in stone before I arrived. I whispered into her ear, "Sorry, no, it is too soon for me to be buying you things. Money is not the problem." So I don't know Thai culture much but I assume she lost face in front of the store staff. Don't care. She didn't make a scene in the store but just outside said, "I am going home now, goodbye. " Easy come easy go. Stopped in at Shark on my way home, like it better than Crazy House, the ladies, very slender and attractive, are more my speed, can't put my finger on it as to why. Number 210, Moon, wearing a full dress hemmed just above the knees asked if she could sit with me. Turns out she is a hostess only, doesn't dance but I can bar fine her for 700 and ST for 3000. Wow, her face between a 8 & 9, IMO. DFK? "yes" BBBJ? "OK, but just a little bit time" I told her I would think about it, paid for our drinks and am at a sports bar eating, contemplating it. She's hot, but my gut feeling says she is conservative in bed. Talk her down to 2000? Or move on. Undecided at this point.

[TabManLlight]

Hey guys,

Will be travelling soon to Bangkok, needed help finding European or white women escorts there? Are there any strip clubs that have white women in them or any website where I can meet them?

Thanks.

[AquaDreams]

So like I said below (date night #2 post) I was contemplating it at the Clubhouse Sports Bar on Soi 23 (great grilled fish sandwich, steak fries and salad). Her face just looks like she doesn't belong on Soi Cowboy, like you'd see her at a hotel reception desk, but light on the make-up. Body not spinner slender but slender none the less. Went back to my hotel to change my shirt and just outside the elevator on my floor the music system started playing the song that my daughter had used in the first dance at her wedding. Took it as a sign I would be happy in selecting Moon. To be honest here at ISG I hate condoms, never been able to cum using one, ever. Sometimes have trouble staying hard with them. So I tried a new trick. Popped half a Sideagra in my room and got the Sagami Large condoms out, both purchased in the afternoon. Paid the bar fine and full 3000 because she said she does good massage. She lit up when I returned and seemed excited to be going with me, holding hands tight and very talkative, medium good English. Pulled me into a food mart to buy a small bottle of Johnson's baby oil. Showered in the room, I put on my "massage vibe" playlist, popped the other half of the Sideagra and showered after she came out. Very nice 100% natural see cup tits, not perky but I actually like them a tiny bit pointy and droopy (so I liked Opor's at Tulip as well). Slight tummy fat but only very slight, not an issue. It all felt very comfortable. When I came out of the bathroom she said, "very good massage music. " She cracked my back and fingers, good foot massage, washed her hands, then turned me over and sensual BBBJ, all very non-rushed. I was quite hard, the Sagami went on and she elevated knees cowgirl me, same as Opor did to start out our fucking at Tulip. Did 5 positions, we had good chemistry and she seemed really into it, light moaning, amped up to the intensity of the motion. I said, "OK, rest time" and DATY her. Slow build up then added a finger inside the pussy and she came. A really sweet lady. Great GFE. Another BBBJ, more cowgirl, then she finished me with a hand job. Still can't cum with a condom on but Sagami feel better and staying hard was easy with the Sideagra. Would repeat if I lived here, but eager for new experiences.

[Plan77]

I liked the concept in SOL and Telephone club in Pattaya where one can sometimes see a BJ or even full penetration. Many times when I am in a busy massage shop, its fun to hear about the sounds from other rooms. Adds to overall charm LOL.

Any more such places these days in Pattaya or Bangkok?

[SirWilliam4]

Hey guys,

Will be travelling soon to Bangkok, needed help finding European or white women escorts there? Are there any strip clubs that have white women in them or any website where I can meet them?

Thanks.Have you even begun to read the forum? You might consider taking a look. You might even learn something.

SW4.

[ParkVille]

So I don't know Thai culture much but I assume she lost face in front of the store staff.She doesn't know those people, so she probably doesn't care. She went in knowing there would be a chance you say no. She went in hoping that putting you on the spot would work. People like her do this all the time and it usually works. Most guys don't want to rock the boat and are scared about saying no.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hey guys,

Will be travelling soon to Bangkok, needed help finding European or white women escorts there? Are there any strip clubs that have white women in them or any website where I can meet them?

Thanks.Are you really looking for white / European escorts in Bangkok? If there are any, they'll be rare and expensive.

Bangkok has some hookers / streetworkers that claim to be Russian but are more likely from some of the Asian CIS republics and the few I have seen are low quality. Pattaya's Walking Street has one club with white hostesses, but they are more trained in emptying your wallet than emptying your balls.

Khao San Road in Bangkok has many European tourists (quite a lot of the backpacker variety) and if you have game no doubt you can catch some there.

[Wolvenvacht]

Called me and asked if I wanted to meet a bit earlier at Terminal 21, have coffee and browse shops before dinner, she was there already. Warning lights begin to flash. (snip).That reinforces my idea that unless a TF or DIA girl fucks you on first date night, you're fucked.

Truth be told, with all (except one) of my DIA or TF contacts I had sex at first date night mostly at their initiative and they were all "good girls" with proper jobs (teachers, hospital staff, .). The only exception was with the owner of a massage shop, but she did give me great Thai massage but without he.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Called me and asked if I wanted to meet a bit earlier at Terminal 21, have coffee and browse shops before dinner, she was there already. Warning lights begin to flash. Met up at Starbucks. Says she has a work mate's daughter's wedding to go to soon, showed me the dress she bought online, but needs shoes to go with. So we look at shoes and sure enough, she expects me to pay. Had my reply set in stone before I arrived. I whispered into her ear, "Sorry, no, it is too soon for me to be buying you things. Money is not the problem." So I don't know Thai culture much but I assume she lost face in front of the store staff. Don't care. She didn't make a scene in the store but just outside said, "I am going home now, goodbye. " Easy come easy go. Snip.My initial reaction to your post was, Good for you! You dodged a bullet. However, upon reflection, you may have made a mistake in thinking that she was going to be a freebie. I believe there is an old saying that men always pay for sex, either in cash, gifts, or emotional and financial support. From what you posted, you are probably 50+ years old and she is probably 20 years or more younger than you. This is not a situation where she is looking to fuck for free: if that was what she wanted, she could find a good-looking guy her own age. She wanted you to entertain her and spend money on her in exchange for sex with you, or set up a long-term arrangement. Do you think Melania fucks tubby Trump because he's a stud and a great guy?

By your own admission, she was the most beautiful woman you ever dated and the time you spent with her was one of the most memorable nights of your life. I don't know how much that pair of shoes would have cost, but you had no problem spending 3700 bhat short-time on a girl who was not in her league, and if you had met the woman who wanted the shoes at Spasso you would have felt lucky to have her let you fuck her for 6,000-8,000 bhat or more.

In these situations, I think you need to determine what you would pay in cash to fuck the girl and as long as the gifts cost less than that, you are not getting screwed. A pair of shoes might have been a small price to pay to see if she would fuck you later that night, and if she didn't, then get rid of her.

[AquaDreams]

My initial reaction to your post was, Good for you! You dodged a bullet. However, upon reflection, you may have made a mistake in thinking that she was going to be a freebie. I believe there is an old saying that men always pay for sex, either in cash, gifts, or emotional and financial support. From what you posted, you are probably 50+ years old and she is probably 20 years or more younger than you. This is not a situation where she is looking to fuck for free: if that was what she wanted, she could find a good-looking guy her own age. She wanted you to entertain her and spend money on her in exchange for sex with you, or set up a long-term arrangement. Do you think Melania fucks tubby Trump because he's a stud and a great guy?

By your own admission, she was the most beautiful woman you ever dated and the time you spent with her was one of the most memorable nights of your life. I don't know how much that pair of shoes would have cost, but you had no problem spending 3700 bhat short-time on a girl who was not in her league, and if you had met the woman who wanted the shoes at Spasso you would have felt lucky to have her let you fuck her for 6,000-8,000 bhat or more.

In these situations, I think you need to determine what you would pay in cash to fuck the girl and as long as the gifts cost less than that, you are not getting screwed. A pair of shoes might have been a small price to pay to see if she would fuck you later that night, and if she didn't, then get rid of her.She is 46, still looks amazing. I took a photo of her at a dessert place at Terminal 21 after we had met at Starbucks, swear to fucking God she looks 25 in the photo. It was shoes AND a purse. All I could think was, I'll buy this AMD then get stonewalled again after dinner "Must get up early for work" She has a government job with Bangkok police. Ended up having great sex with Moon instead, but damn, woulda shoulda, who knows, wish I could show you guys her photos but I don't want to plaster her all over the web.

[Wimble]

Do you think Melania fucks tubby Trump because he's a stud and a great guy?IMHO, Ivanna, Marla and Melania are all gorgeous ladies with cla $$. Look at Xi, Berlusconi, and Sarkozy. Finally we have a classy ladies. Personally, I prefer the French accent.

[Zen415]

Hello all,

New member here. I will be staying the whole month of June in BKK. I rented an Airbnb apartment in the Sukhumvit area. The first time I came to the city (6 years ago), I stayed in backpackers hostels in Banglamphu for 5 days and ended up mongering in Chinatown a few times (read about that area on this forum). This time it's going to be a totally different experience for me with spending way more time and having my own spot.

Obviously I'm aware the area where I'll be staying at has a lot of options for girls. I was wondering if someone could give me some advice on getting streetwalkers or bargirls for what I want. I'm not necessarily looking for "long time" or "overnight" girls. I want a couple of quickies a week (about 20 min). I like young, small, petite, innocent looking girls. If I "connect" with some of them I't be a regular thing and might invite them over to my place sometimes.

From what I read about BKK it seems like:

-Bargirls tend to be "hotter"? I'm not into "spectacular" girls. Cute countryside girls are my thing.

-Bargirls are more expensive but don't necessarily provide a better service.

Is that it? Or should I be aware of anything else?

One of the things I don't like about my bar experiences (Tijuana, Guatemala, Spain) is that girls "choose" you. They sit next to you and make small chat expecting a drink and a customer. I hate being in this position and enjoy much more the streetwalking action because I get to wall and scan the girls available before I approach one I like.

Also, how likely is it that either one comes to my place?

Thanks!

[Kimi1]

Are there any bars still open on Soi 33 - like the old Napolean or Livingstone lodge. Somewhere not too noisy but still can talk to the girls?

I don't want to go Soi or Nana as those are too loud and in you're face. Any alternative?

[BushRusher]

woulda shoulda, who knows, wish I could show you guys her photos but I don't want to plaster her all over the web.If in doubt, probably shouldn't unless you can blot out the face and any identifying features. For some reason, I doubt you were the first time as the older ladies are more secure in what they want and like.

Then again, they all lie. As has happened with other posters, have returned and found girls posing and taking selfies, with little doubt as to what transpired.

[Jude Bright]

Hello all,

New member here. I will be staying the whole month of June in BKK. I rented an Airbnb apartment in the Sukhumvit area. The first time I came to the city (6 years ago), I stayed in backpackers hostels in Banglamphu for 5 days and ended up mongering in Chinatown a few times (read about that area on this forum). This time it's going to be a totally different experience for me with spending way more time and having my own spot.

Obviously I'm aware the area where I'll be staying at has a lot of options for girls. I was wondering if someone could give me some advice on getting streetwalkers or bargirls for what I want. I'm not necessarily looking for "long time" or "overnight" girls. I want a couple of quickies a week (about 20 min). I like young, small, petite, innocent looking girls. If I "connect" with some of them I't be a regular thing and might invite them over to my place sometimes.

From what I read about BKK it seems like:

-Bargirls tend to be "hotter"? I'm not into "spectacular" girls. Cute countryside girls are my thing.

-Bargirls are more expensive but don't necessarily provide a better service.

Is that it? Or should I be aware of anything else?

One of the things I don't like about my bar experiences (Tijuana, Guatemala, Spain) is that girls "choose" you. They sit next to you and make small chat expecting a drink and a customer. I hate being in this position and enjoy much more the streetwalking action because I get to wall and scan the girls available before I approach one I like.

Also, how likely is it that either one comes to my place?

Thanks!Yes, the bar girl can be hotter, but no guarantee for good services. I had the bad experience last time I was in BKK. See my early report. I prefer the massage places better.

Jb.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

She is 46, still looks amazing. I took a photo of her at a dessert place at Terminal 21 after we had met at Starbucks, swear to fucking God she looks 25 in the photo. It was shoes AND a purse. All I could think was, I'll buy this AMD then get stonewalled again after dinner "Must get up early for work" She has a government job with Bangkok police. Ended up having great sex with Moon instead, but damn, woulda shoulda, who knows, wish I could show you guys her photos but I don't want to plaster her all over the web.I retract my post. You were right to do what you did. I would also never knowingly pay (in cash or gifts) to fuck a 46 year-old woman, no matter how good she looked clothed.

[SirWilliam4]

Hello all,

New member here. From what I read about BKK it seems like:

-Bargirls tend to be "hotter"? I'm not into "spectacular" girls. Cute countryside girls are my thing.

-Bargirls are more expensive but don't necessarily provide a better service.

Is that it? Or should I be aware of anything else?

Thanks!Don't overthink this. With a little walking around and a little patience you'll find just what you want. The freelancers on Soi 4 and on Sukhumvit between Soi 11 and Terminal 21 will afford you lots of choice.

Relax. Enjoy. Have fun.

SW4.

[AquaDreams]

I retract my post. You were right to do what you did. I would also never knowingly pay (in cash or gifts) to fuck a 46 year-old woman, no matter how good she looked clothed.I am going to do exactly what you said, hit Spasso or Mixx and pay up, at least once. The 2 escorts I wanted most for this visit, Nicha at Absolute Angels and Vida at New Bangkok Escort are on vacation, dammit. Bonnie is apparently no longer working, she looked unbelievable as well. Best sex of the trip was Anny, who hangs out at Tha Bar in Khao Lak, did her 3 times for 2000 each, a real tiger and performer.

[Zen415]

Yes, the bar girl can be hotter, but no guarantee for good services. I had the bad experience last time I was in BKK. See my early report. I prefer the massage places better.

Jb.Thanks, just read your bad experience. What do you prefer about massage places?

[Zen415]

From what I've read, it's relatively easy to find 2 bargirls to enjoy a 3 way. How about freelancers? How common is that? Also, how likely are the girls to enjoy some bi-play?

I'm thinking the best way to get there would be approaching 2 girls who work around the same spot or ask one if she has a cute friend to join us.

[DwayneJohnson]

IMHO, Ivanna, Marla and Melania are all gorgeous ladies with cla $$. Look at Xi, Berlusconi, and Sarkozy. Finally we have a classy ladies. Personally, I prefer the French accent.IMHO, They are technically very expensive P4 P Ladies.

[Member #4698]

Are there any bars still open on Soi 33 - like the old Napolean or Livingstone lodge. Somewhere not too noisy but still can talk to the girls?

I don't want to go Soi or Nana as those are too loud and in you're face. Any alternative?Try the Office on Soi 33, Hideaway or Rumors Bar in Queens Park Plaza on On Soi 22, Thermae on Sukhumvit, or even Morning Night Bar on Soi 4 adjacent to Nana.

[Smoothy]

I guess Crazy House isn't the only place where the girls try to order 2 drinks when they first sit down with you. I was in Billboard last night and the girl asked for a Tequila Coke. The difference was that this girl specifically asked me "is it ok if I order 2 drinks instead of one? I want a Tequila and a coke. ".

[Jude Bright]

I guess Crazy House isn't the only place where the girls try to order 2 drinks when they first sit down with you. I was in Billboard last night and the girl asked for a Tequila Coke. The difference was that this girl specifically asked me "is it ok if I order 2 drinks instead of one? I want a Tequila and a coke. ".At least she was hornest with you unlike the one I had in Crazy House where she just ask me if I can get a drink with Tequila and coke, sound like one drink, but come with two glasses.

Jb.

[Wolvenvacht]

At least she was hornest with you unlike the one I had in Crazy House where she just ask me if I can get a drink with Tequila and coke, sound like one drink, but come with two glasses.

Jb."Hornest"? A Freudian slip of honest and horney?

[Smoothy]

At least she was hornest with you Yes, she did have two orgasms later in the night, not just one. Quite a hornest girl.

[Syzygies]

Zen415 in BKK for a month.

You have plenty of time to try everything more than once. I say more than once since one bad experinece does not prove anything about other girls.

We can't know what you are going to like best.

I am trying to find great freelancers to save me time and money but it is not easy if you have not yet collected known great girls for you.

I am a sucker for pretty girls but not everyone is.

[Rolodido]

Hi bros,

Still needed to send my report on my trip to Thailand end of Jan. Main purpose of the trip was golf, relaxing and fun. Stayed at a friends place in BKK so no hotel I can share experience on.

Jut before starting the full facts, I'd just like to outline my general thoughts of what kind of girls I like and what kind of bar I like to hang out. My main objective here is to have fun and a good laugh, not to get laid every night with the best looking girl I see. As such, I tend to spend more then needed in a bar on lady drinks, just because I know it helps in creating a relaxed atmosphere. It's maybe not working in all places, but if you're having fun, it is amazing to see what 1 or 2 extra lady drinks for the mamasan or a girl can do.

This being said, this is what I've done:

Day one: Flew into BKK in the afternoon, went to the apartment and had a shower. As I was playing golf already the next day, we didn't make it too late. Had a couple of beers in Soi 8, went back home and had a last (couple of) beers at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in ski 10. This was a place I've been walking past many times but never went in. Must say, had a great last nr of beers. Started chatting with a girl think named Dao. Her English was very good so must have had a past with an English speaking guy. Didn't to anything special, went to bed alone as foreseen.

Day 2 : played golf, back home and went for a couple of beers again. Started in Soi 8 and later we went to Nana. Must say I was very disappointed by the "new" Nana. I used to prefer Nana to Soi Cowboy but not anymore now. It felt way too clean and "American Sportsbar" on the ground floor. Ended up at Angel witch, which is still a nice and fun place. Had a couple of drinks and left around 1 am I think. On our way back, had a new stop at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s to check on Dao again. She was there and had a good ending of the night. Went upstairs with her and had a great time. No rush at all, everything was on the program with the exception of Anal (didn't ask or try). Think we stayed more than an hour together. Only thing I didn't understand was the price to take her out. She said that the barfine at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was over 3000 Maybe that's because it's more considered as a BJ bar. Any help here?

Other day's to follow later.

Cheers,

Rolo.

[AquaDreams]

My first visit complete, in Seoul now. Spent entire time in Sukhumvit area.

1) no sirens at all. In Seattle & Bellevue one hears them constantly.

2) streets fairly clean, but nearly impossible to find trash bins, especially on BTS.

3) each time in an oily, I was only customer in waiting area, various times (7 or 8 shops), is business way off.

[Zen415]

Zen415 in BKK for a month.

You have plenty of time to try everything more than once. I say more than once since one bad experinece does not prove anything about other girls.

We can't know what you are going to like best.

I am trying to find great freelancers to save me time and money but it is not easy if you have not yet collected known great girls for you.

I am a sucker for pretty girls but not everyone is.That's right. Plenty of time to get to know the city better, explore neighborhoods, make friends and I will definitely find one or two regulars to have fun with.

[Free2]

I didn't post from my 1 nighter in BKK.

Things I successfully checked off my list:

- walked through Thermae. Interesting place. I didn't like it, but maybe it was just a first impression. Did not negotiate with anybody, but the solid line of girls that completely surrounds the room must make for some awkward negotiations. I just has it see it though.

- walked around Nana Plaza and saw the FLs in front of the hotel sign across the road.

- Soi Cowboy of course. Craziest place seemed to be Crazy House around the corner. Turned and left because the place was packed packed with narry a spot for 1. Looked like a ton of fun there though.

- Couldn't find the "BJ bars on the street behind Soi Cowboy" others have posted about.

- walked up and down Sukhumvit Rd and many of the side streets. Saw every kind of SW imaginable. There really is an wide array here. Ning was sitting out side Robinson and had a cheery response to my initial look. Super sweet girl, I put her at 28-29 and lo and behold she is 40, no kids. Wow. 1000 baht and a super nice lay, everybody was happy.

The Grand Finale:

- checked out of hotel at 2, but had 5 hrs to departure. Took my heavy ass suitcase and dragged it over to Wood Bar and got one of the best BJs of my life! Others may find it a little awkward as you can clearly hear other girls sucking off the dudes in the stalls nearby. 1000 baht BJ almost to perfection. The only thing I didn't like is I noticed the girl check her watch at one point mid-suck That was a turnoff.

Train to airport and bye bye Thailand! I probably won't be back for a long time. I find it so difficult to communicate, the language barrier is real. I much prefer the Phils and this is probably one of the main reasons. But Thailand trumps the Phils in other aspects; cleaner places, food is way better, better infrastructure, Russians if that is your thing.

But the Phils is so much cheaper when it comes to food, transportation and girls.

[BackpackBrian]

I'll be traveling for my second trip to Bangkok in 2 months and it's been 8 years since my last trip so I have some questions.

1. Looking at video's on Youtube of Bangkok walking streets with all the girls standing out front of the clubs. Are these girls prostitutes or are they just bait to get me inside the club / bar?

2. The clubs / gogo bars that do have the hookers, do they have a place for me to go to have sex? I like to stay in hostels (cheap prices) and don't usually like to take the hookers back to my shared hostel room.

3. What is the going price now for full service from the girls in the gogo bars / clubs in the RLD's in Bangkok? I remember paying like $150 8 years ago when I tried it, but being a very experienced German FKK monger that seems like I was probably ripped off.

[Devinn38]

I'll be traveling for my second trip to Bangkok in 2 months and it's been 8 years since my last trip so I have some questions.

1. Looking at video's on Youtube of Bangkok walking streets with all the girls standing out front of the clubs. Are these girls prostitutes or are they just bait to get me inside the club / bar?

2. The clubs / gogo bars that do have the hookers, do they have a place for me to go to have sex? I like to stay in hostels (cheap prices) and don't usually like to take the hookers back to my shared hostel room.

3. What is the going price now for full service from the girls in the gogo bars / clubs in the RLD's in Bangkok? I remember paying like $150 8 years ago when I tried it, but being a very experienced German FKK monger that seems like I was probably ripped off.Have you read any of the reports? Go back 50 pages. Read. You will have the answers you seek. RTFF.

[LaidBackPunter]

I'll be traveling for my second trip to Bangkok in 2 months and it's been 8 years since my last trip so I have some questions.

1. Looking at video's on Youtube of Bangkok walking streets with all the girls standing out front of the clubs. Are these girls prostitutes or are they just bait to get me inside the club / bar?

2. The clubs / gogo bars that do have the hookers, do they have a place for me to go to have sex? I like to stay in hostels (cheap prices) and don't usually like to take the hookers back to my shared hostel room.

3. What is the going price now for full service from the girls in the gogo bars / clubs in the RLD's in Bangkok? I remember paying like $150 8 years ago when I tried it, but being a very experienced German FKK monger that seems like I was probably ripped off.1. Generally, the girls out front are just there to lure you inside. There are plenty of regular working girls inside pretty much every bar and, of course, inside go-go bars in Nana Plaza and on Soi Cowboy.

2. There are numerous short time hotels in Nana. The ladies will know one. They are cheap and safe.

3. At go-go bars the prices are generally 100-200 Baht for a lady drink, 500-1,000 Baht for bar fine, 2,000-3,000 Baht for short time, 3,000-6,000 Baht for long time. Everything is negotiable.

[Syzygies]

I'll be traveling for my second trip to Bangkok in 2 months and it's been 8 years since my last trip so I have some questions.

1. Looking at video's on Youtube of Bangkok walking streets with all the girls standing out front of the clubs. Are these girls prostitutes or are they just bait to get me inside the club / bar?

2. The clubs / gogo bars that do have the hookers, do they have a place for me to go to have sex? I like to stay in hostels (cheap prices) and don't usually like to take the hookers back to my shared hostel room.

3. What is the going price now for full service from the girls in the gogo bars / clubs in the RLD's in Bangkok? I remember paying like $150 8 years ago when I tried it, but being a very experienced German FKK monger that seems like I was probably ripped off.I saw a good answer already so I won't repeat that. You can get a private room fairly cheaply like 800 Baht is possible in the right location however ST hotel is cheaper. You probably won't be able to afford bar girls so you should be considering Freelancers on the street to get a fuck for a really good price like 1000 to 1500 Baht.

The price of hostel plus ST hotel 350 baht could come to same as a very cheap private room.

consider also if one girl was no fun snd then you got another one on same day.

If you go to massage shop they have a room to use. However will still cost more than a freelancer on the street.

Try all options to see what works for you. Bargirls can be a lot of fun but they tend to have been spoiled by customers that are relatively big spenders. Plenty of guys in bars are not on a tight budget.

[Crazy4Thai]

If you go to massage shop they have a room to use. However will still cost more than a freelancer on the street.FWIW, I have gotten full PSE experiences in the massage shop / brothels near Villa Mkt between Soi's 11 & 13 for 1,300 all in. They even have shower facilities. And similarly at L0 lita's and Kasalong. A 500 baht tip will buy a lot of service if you choose carefully. Kasalong actually has cubical rooms with running water.

[FunExplorer]

I'll be traveling for my second trip to Bangkok in 2 months and it's been 8 years since my last trip so I have some questions.

1. Looking at video's on Youtube of Bangkok walking streets with all the girls standing out front of the clubs. Are these girls prostitutes or are they just bait to get me inside the club / bar?

2. The clubs / gogo bars that do have the hookers, do they have a place for me to go to have sex? I like to stay in hostels (cheap prices) and don't usually like to take the hookers back to my shared hostel room.

3. What is the going price now for full service from the girls in the gogo bars / clubs in the RLD's in Bangkok? I remember paying like $150 8 years ago when I tried it, but being a very experienced German FKK monger that seems like I was probably ripped off.Your questions are little puzzling especially since you say you had tried 8 years back. However, to answer shortly:

1. The girls are mostly prostitutes standing in front of the clubs. However, a few may not be willing to go with, though I have never experienced that.

2. The prices for full service in go go bars differ from short to long time and could be in the range of 2000 to 4000 baht for ST and 3000 and above for LT. But note that these are not standard rates and could vary at different clubs and with girls as well as your negotiation skills. If you had paid $ 150, that too, 8 years back, you have been thoroughly ripped off. That is not the price even now!

3. There are a number of places available for short time for as little as baht.

The pages below, will give you enormous information from seniors. Do take trouble to browse.

[World Travel 69]

I put together a list of places.

I am sure you can fill in the blanks.

I was Eden the other night and he ask me to leave. I said his beer was too expensive. All his girls were busy playing with their cell phones.

Chrome Bar was funny. I walked in and the girls were sitting in the door way on one side and the guys were on the other. Kind of like High School.

The Madam wanted me to sit, but I said I wanted a beer and she this is not a bar and threw me out.

Nana Area

Chrome Bar, 131/16 Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. 6 Girls. Prices: 2000 THB. Tel: +66 2 651 3312. Hours: 11 am to 1 am.

Wood Bar (ex-Dr. BJ Salon), Sukhumvit 7/1 Soi. 5+ Girls. Prices: 800-1000 THB. Tel: 02 651 2563. Hours: 10:30 to 2 am.

The Eden club, Sukhumvit 7/1. 5 + Girls. Prices: _ Tel: +66 2 255 4672. Hours: Noon to Midnight. http://edenbangkok.com/login/login.php.
L o l i t a s’s Bangkok Bar, 4 Soi Sukhumvit 8. 6+ Girls. Prices: 800 THB. Tel: +66 86 010 2272. Hours: 10 am to 1 am. http://lolitasbangkok.com/.

Kasalong, Chai Saman Alley. __ Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 10 am to 1 am.

Lollipip 1, 10 Sukhumvit Rd. 6+Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: _.

Som's Haven, 5 Sukhumvit 14 Alley. 5+ Girls. Prices: 700 THB, 1200 BTH Full. Tel: +66 81 007 4841. Hours: Noon to 1 am.

Soi Cowboy

Toy Bar, Soi Cowboy, __ Girls. _ Prices: _ Hours: __ to _.

Foxzee Bar, 392/20 Sukhumvit Rd. __ Girls. Prices: _ Hours: __ to _.

B52 Bar, 22 Sukhumvit Rd. , Soi 22. __ Girls. Prices: _ Hours: __ to _.

Afterschools Naughty Boy Corner, 23 Sukhumvit Rd. __ Girls. Prices: _ Hours: 5 pm to _.

Patpong Area

Star of Light, 68 Phat Pong 2 Alley. 7+Girls. Prices: 7000 THB. Tel: _ Hours: 9 am to _.

Kangaroo Club, 44 Khwaeng Suriya Wong, Khet Bang Rak, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon 10500.4+ Girls. Prices: _ Tel: 089 998 1678. Hours: 3 pm to 8 pm.

[JiveMofo]

Don't see a lot of reports on this place, so I thought I'd contribute. I was only interested in getting a slave so can't speak to the mistress side of things.

Went in a couple of weeks ago at about 8 pm. It's located on Sukhumvit Soi 33 near Akane Massage. The dress code is plain black t-shirt (I think they will give you one to wear if you don't have one) and I think they don't allow shorts / flip flops. As it's a BDSM club, they want you dressed accordingly. You have to ring a buzzer to get in and they have a speakeasy type door where there is a small sliding opening at about eye level. They'll ask if you've been there before and then let you in if dressed properly. The place is DARK. I mean like, I had to watch the ground closely as I walked so as to not trip on anything. Keeping with the gothic feel I guess. There is a 900 baht entry fee which includes 1 drink. Your next drink is 300 baht, LD's are 280 baht.

I was taken to an alcove seating area which is meant to be semi-private. I was then given a mistress-slave show with 2 girls where they demo and then allow you to test drive what is allowable. You can lightly whip (not exactly a 'whip' per se but has multiple strands of heavy cloth on the end) the slave, paddle her, tie her with rope, and drip her with hot wax. I skipped the wax and was only interested in how hard you were allowed to hit. Not that I wanted to hit hard, but rather wanted to avoid hitting too hard. If you have specific things in mind, this is the time to ask what is acceptable. Aside from some light slapping, paddle work and saying some horrendous shit there really wasn't anything I wanted. I thought about asking if spitting was allowed but decided that was too much for my first dabble in the BDSM world. I was told what I wanted was acceptable and I asked for a 'safe' word the girl would give if she wanted to stop. The mamasan told me it was Heineken which is what I happened to be drinking. As I came to learn, this is really BDSM lite. Don't expect that Kink website level stuff here. Anyways, as we talked things out, I was asked to buy a drink for the girls. Since they performed the demo and I participated I agreed.

A 90 minute session is 3500 baht per girl, they will encourage you to take a mistress and slave, however I only wanted slave. I asked to see a lineup of slaves and was presented with 3 girls, one of whom performed as the mistress in my demo and was a switch. If this was a MP lineup, I would have immediately walked out but since looks really wasn't this was all about I chose the most attractive of the group (Jun) which happened to be the switch. I bought her and I a shot before we headed up as I wanted her nice and loose for the session. You can select which items you want to bring before you head up (rope, whip, paddle). The girl will also bring some toys (vibrator, strap-on etc.).

The room we were taken to had a large bed, a wooden X which you can strap your slave to, and a head and arm stock. I showered alone before we started and she got ready in another room. When she came in, she was dressed in the standard slave outfit (schoolgirl uniform). As it turned out, she didn't really seem to want to get strapped into the X, but rather would just hold on with her hands to the straps. That was OK with me, not sure what would have happened if I insisted. Anyways, without getting into too much detail, I ran through the list of things I wanted to try. Most of it was just verbal abuse and the paddle. Making her crawl around, chasing my dick trying to suck it while I slowly walked backwards was amusing. She was game for all that, but the primary schtick seemed to be 'yes master', 'sorry master', 'may I come master' which got a bit tiresome after a while. I also got hit up for 2 more LDs during the session (shots). Since I face fucked her pretty hard, I obliged. She'll also say whatever lines you feed her which was a bit of fun.

After the session, I was hit up for a tip which I agreed to for her (300), but the mamasan and CASHIER also asked for one which was denied. Total cost ended up being 5400 baht. A little steep, but a unique experience. Am thinking of trying the Castle in Pattaya as I'm out there now. I'm expecting a cookie cutter experience, but hopefully with a more attractive girl. I'll post a report there if I do.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks WT69. Will check some of these out when I'm back in Bangkok. Just to clarify these prices are BJ only? I'm asking since some places like Chrome (2000) and Star of Light (7000) seem excessively high for a BJ. Better be some damn hot supermodel for 7000 baht BJ.

[Christian G]

Thanks WT69. Will check some of these out when I'm back in Bangkok. Just to clarify these prices are BJ only? I'm asking since some places like Chrome (2000) and Star of Light (7000) seem excessively high for a BJ. Better be some damn hot supermodel for 7000 baht BJ.Star Of Lights is 700 baht for BJ, he typing one more 0 LOL. Chrome (Dr. BJ Nuru) isn't a BJ bar, is a massage shop, 2000 baht for 1 HR.

[Wolvenvacht]

3. At go-go bars the prices are generally 100-200 Baht for a lady drink, 500-1,000 Baht for bar fine, 2,000-3,000 Baht for short time, 3,000-6,000 Baht for long time. Everything is negotiable."Everything", except the price of the drinks and the barfine.

[SexInStl]

I put together a list of places.

I am sure you can fill in the blanks.

I was Eden the other night and he ask me to leave. I said his beer was too expensive. All his girls were busy playing with their cell phones.

Chrome Bar was funny. I walked in and the girls were sitting in the door way on one side and the guys were on the other. Kind of like High School.

The Madam wanted me to sit, but I said I wanted a beer and she this is not a bar and threw me out.

Nana Area.[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s is the one with the Pink and White Schoolgirl outfits, but what is the name of the one right around the corner from it? They have light blue and white school girl outfits.

[Syzygies]

I put together a list of places.

I am sure you can fill in the blanks.

I was Eden the other night and he ask me to leave. I said his beer was too expensive. All his girls were busy playing with their cell phones.

Chrome Bar was funny. I walked in and the girls were sitting in the door way on one side and the guys were on the other. Kind of like High School.

The Madam wanted me to sit, but I said I wanted a beer and she this is not a bar and threw me out.

Nana Area

Chrome Bar, 131/16 Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. 6 Girls. Prices: 2000 THB. Tel: +66 2 651 3312. Hours: 11 am to 1 am.

Wood Bar (ex-Dr. BJ Salon), Sukhumvit 7/1 Soi. 5+ Girls. Prices: 800-1000 THB. Tel: 02 651 2563. Hours: 10:30 to 2 am.

The Eden club, Sukhumvit 7/1. 5 + Girls. Prices: _ Tel: +66 2 255 4672. Hours: Noon to Midnight. http://edenbangkok.com/login/login.php.
L o l i t a ss Bangkok Bar, 4 Soi Sukhumvit 8. 6+ Girls. Prices: 800 THB. Tel: +66 86 010 2272. Hours: 10 am to 1 am. http://lolitasbangkok.com/.

Kasalong, Chai Saman Alley. __ Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 10 am to 1 am.

Lollipip 1, 10 Sukhumvit Rd. 6+Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: _.
6+girls means you score them 6 points or so out of 10 for looks? I guess this based on Eden getting the lowest score.

Its quite amusing that both Wood bar and chome bar are not bars at all. BJ shop and Nuru Massage shop respectively. You can get a drink once you have paid for a booking though. I have had a drink while waiting for a girl more than once.

In Eden you will be expected to leave as well if do not select a girl promptly. They could not tolerate that I was slow to make a decision.

The owner of Lollitas is very proud that there is no hanky panky going on in his bar (downstairs). This makes the place rather boring.LOL I prefer places with hanky panky in the bar.

So Eden and Chrome don't really belong on the list of BJ "Shops"

Kangaroo Club is in Pat Pong 1 alley. The address you give would confuse. Kangaroo Club was my first BJ bar about 26 years ago. Was good place to go at lunch time as plenty of girls but very few customers. Was a shock first time in their to be attacked by girls trying to get your dick out, but got used to it and to groping pussy, and fucking was always available as well in the back room. I have some photos at home of the crew of Kangaroo club girls from 26 years ago. Perhaps I will publish them some day. One of the girls was cute a little less slim than I like but enormous tits. I recall her her standing with boobs or pussy in my face while others were taking turns at the BBBJ. Originally even the bar girl serving drinks was wayward. You could pull down her pants and have some fun. I did fuck her as well. In those days there was no price for BJ, you merely had to keep buying drinks for all the girls sexually involved with you. I don't recall the drinks price, but I guess they would soon add up. I guess there was a price for full sex in the back room. At one time Kangaroo Club moved but still in same alley. Annies Rose was another club similar in Pat Pong 1. Don't know if it is still there.

I the idea of going to the back dark room for sex has lost its appeal somewhat. I would be more keen to know what things I can get away with in the public bar like in the old days. First day I went upstairs to Annies Rose, a guy and woman were in like chairs with backs, facing each other at the bar. The woman was a bit older and plumper than I like but was totally nude and slumped back with the guys fingers being deep inside her pussy while he had a drink in the other hand. Was a shock for a newbie but we got used to those things. He probably got these things just by buying her some drinks. He probably received a BJ or went to a room for fucking after that. There was no sense of urgency. I recall taking 3 or 4 girls to back room to fuck in an orgy, probably for a few hundred baht each (not sure now).

First time in Toy bar, it was keep buying the girls drinks, and the BBBJ was then free of charge. That was plenty of years ago though. So I would be interested to read just what things still occur in the public bar.

BJ Bars with curtains never seemed to have quite the same appeal.

[Syzygies]

FWIW, I have gotten full PSE experiences in the massage shop / brothels near Villa Mkt between Soi's 11 & 13 for 1,300 all in. They even have shower facilities. And similarly at L0 lita's and Kasalong. A 500 baht tip will buy a lot of service if you choose carefully. Kasalong actually has cubical rooms with running water.Good point. At Lollitas I almost always took the VIP room, with shower and bed and full sex of course, and price was reasonable even with the good room thrown in. I am not really a BJ only man. I am a doer rather than just sit back and be blown. That relied on having a girl with fabulous ass though like Anne (gone now).

[BackpackBrian]

Your questions are little puzzling especially since you say you had tried 8 years back. However, to answer shortly:

1. The girls are mostly prostitutes standing in front of the clubs. However, a few may not be willing to go with, though I have never experienced that.

2. The prices for full service in go go bars differ from short to long time and could be in the range of 2000 to 4000 baht for ST and 3000 and above for LT. But note that these are not standard rates and could vary at different clubs and with girls as well as your negotiation skills. If you had paid $ 150, that too, 8 years back, you have been thoroughly ripped off. That is not the price even now!

3. There are a number of places available for short time for as little as baht.

The pages below, will give you enormous information from seniors. Do take trouble to browse.OK so regarding my original post that you responded too.

I think I paid somewhere between $100-$130 for full service in some room behind the bar.

But this still concerns me in terms of price, because I thought that mongers traveled to Thailand to get cheap P4P?

These prices are the same if not more expensive then the German FKK's which I'm very familiar with and I know that the quality in FKK's (looks) are much better then Thailand.

So, WHY would anyone go to Thailand to pay higher prices then an FKK?

[BackpackBrian]

After seeing a couple of responses to my earlier thread about prices in Bangkok (2000-4000 Baht for full service).

My question is why would I ever go to Thailand for those mongering prices? Please tell me!?

German FKK's have much better line ups (white girls) and are cheaper!

For $130 I can go to the message parlors in San Francisco and get full service.

I can understand if you are close to Thailand geographically but if you are in say the US (California), it doesn't seem like the trip is worth it.

I was always under the impression that Thailand was a big destination for mongering because the currency rate was low and you could get service for a cheap price? Emphasize cheap price.

Not true based on the reports I'm seeing.

I did a backpacking trip to Thailand about 7 years ago and did engage in P4P in a gogo bar for about $120 US. Went to a room around the corner from the bar and popped twice. I remember going into a couple of message parlors and asking about prices and they seemed way to expensive for Thailand. I thing they wanted $150+ for message and full service. I thought this was a 3rd world country?

[Jude Bright]

After seeing a couple of responses to my earlier thread about prices in Bangkok (2000-4000 Baht for full service).

My question is why would I ever go to Thailand for those mongering prices? Please tell me!?

German FKK's have much better line ups (white girls) and are cheaper!

For $130 I can go to the message parlors in San Francisco and get full service.

I can understand if you are close to Thailand geographically but if you are in say the US (California), it doesn't seem like the trip is worth it.

I was always under the impression that Thailand was a big destination for mongering because the currency rate was low and you could get service for a cheap price? Emphasize cheap price.

Not true based on the reports I'm seeing.

I did a backpacking trip to Thailand about 7 years ago and did engage in P4P in a gogo bar for about $120 US. Went to a room around the corner from the bar and popped twice. I remember going into a couple of message parlors and asking about prices and they seemed way to expensive for Thailand. I thing they wanted $150+ for message and full service. I thought this was a 3rd world country?To me, the difference is legal in Thailand and illegal in the US. Plus, in Thailand, you get better services and longer time for less.

Jb.

[BushRusher]

To me, the difference is legal in Thailand and illegal in the US. Plus, in Thailand, you get better services and longer time for less.

Jb.But also legal in Germany and some parts of Europe.

[Crocodilexp]

After seeing a couple of responses to my earlier thread about prices in Bangkok (2000-4000 Baht for full service).

My question is why would I ever go to Thailand for those mongering prices? Please tell me!?

German FKK's have much better line ups (white girls) and are cheaper!

For $130 I can go to the message parlors in San Francisco and get full service.
Plenty of reasons.

First, while Thailand is worse than it used to be, but the actual experience of paid sex here is still better. In the west, the best case scenario (what some mongers call GFE) is that the girl isn't actively hostile or aloof, and lets you kiss her on the mouth. In Thailand, GFE is a girl who happily stays with you for however long you wish (of course, you pay a bit more, but not that much more for overnight) and actually treats you as nicely as an actual GF ever did. Not as common these days as it used to be, but can still be found (especially in Pattaya, and with girls who are not in top demand). Even though old-time mongers complain about the service, it's still notably better in Thailand then the west, where expectations are ultra-low.

For many mongers, amount of choice is important. While Thailand doesn't have best looking working girls on average, the mongering scene is still vast, with many different venues, hundreds of different girls etc. Just having all those options, the freedom to choose and to hunt, is worth the trip. In SF, you'll probably be ushered into some dodgy massage place, and assigned a masseuse, or at best given a choice of 3-4 girls. Even in a German FKK, while the average looks might be better, the sheer amount of choice does not even come close. You're confined to choosing a girl out of a limited selection, within one tightly-controlled setting. Zero adventure, zero surprise. Oh, and don't even think of trying to take a photo with the girl (even just a snap for personal memory), or go anywhere outside of the scripted bounds.

In the end, the price. People often compare the cheapest lowest-end sex they ever got (or heard of) in the west to an agogo barfine in Thailand, which is on the higher end price-wise, and low on price / value ratio. Thailand has more options. You can still find sex for 500-1200 baht ($15-$35) in some places. And service won't be worse than what you're getting for $130 in SF. For 2. 1 k baht ($60), you can get a PSE-style massage with 90 minutes of multiple pops, anal, deep BBBJs, rimming, whatever you can think of. I doubt your $130 session in SF comes anywhere close to what you get at Tulip or Snow White at half the price.

If you're only looking at prices per cum, nothing beats masturbation, and our entire hobby is pointless.

Thailand is MUCH worse than it used to be, but unfortunately, even in its diminished state, it is still in many ways the best mongering place in the world.

[Jude Bright]

OK so regarding my original post that you responded too.

I think I paid somewhere between $100-$130 for full service in some room behind the bar.

But this still concerns me in terms of price, because I thought that mongers traveled to Thailand to get cheap P4P?

These prices are the same if not more expensive then the German FKK's which I'm very familiar with and I know that the quality in FKK's (looks) are much better then Thailand.

So, WHY would anyone go to Thailand to pay higher prices then an FKK?In FKK, you get one pop in 30 minutes for $100-130, in BKK, you get 90 to 120 minutes for 2 pop for less than $100.

Jb.

[Goatscrot]

Thailand is MUCH worse than it used to be, but unfortunately, even in its diminished state, it is still in many ways the best mongering place in the world.Agree with your first statement, but if you are talking about a destination just to monger, Jakarta has to top Thailand. Of course Thailand is a much better place to hang. Biggest issue with Thailand now is looks. When I look at the escorts in the China forum, they really are stunning and 90 min for about 140 USD. When all in that is a better deal than most GoGo gals in Thailand and for real lookers. White skin, great bodies, no baby. Also compare that to what the oldies are charging at Spaso these days.

[HorseTrader]

So, WHY would anyone go to Thailand to pay higher prices then an FKK?I've never been to an FKK, but I can easily answer why I spent more hours in an airplane going to Thailand than would have been necessary going to Germany. I like Thai girls better than German girls. That includes both appearance and personality. I never checked prices, but I'd be willing to bet that your other living expenses in Thailand would be less than Germany (hotel, transportation, food).

My next overseas mongering trip will again be to Thailand.

[MagicSheep74]

Goatscot,

I have always found what I believe where stunners in Thailand found in Spasso, Mixx, Lord Massage and G Club Take out. Are you saying there is superior looking Asia girls in China.

If there are I would be very interested to know where? Never really fancied the Chinese chicks, but I could be persuaded to take a short trip to investigate.

Thanks MS.

[TimTimGuy]

. I thought this was a 3rd world country?Just curious. TTG.

[ItIsMe83]

I've never been to an FKK, but I can easily answer why I spent more hours in an airplane going to Thailand than would have been necessary going to Germany. I like Thai girls better than German girls. That includes both appearance and personality. I never checked prices, but I'd be willing to bet that your other living expenses in Thailand would be less than Germany (hotel, transportation, food).

My next overseas mongering trip will again be to Thailand.Well it's not like there are many actual German girls. More so eastern Europeans including their attitudes. Sweet lovely Thai girls will always win.

[Sunlover2]

For $130 I can go to the message parlors in San Francisco and get full service.

I can understand if you are close to Thailand geographically but if you are in say the US (California), it doesn't seem like the trip is worth it.Your $130 session in SF is probably rushed (less than 1 hour) and includes only 1 pop.

In Bangkok you can go to a GFE / PSE massage shop and get 2 hours of A+ BBBJ CIM multi-pop service for 2,300 baht ($65).

So in Thailand you get 4 hours of better sex service vs. Your (maybe) 1 hour session in SF. 75% cheaper per hour by my math.


I was always under the impression that Thailand was a big destination for mongering because the currency rate was low and you could get service for a cheap price? Emphasize cheap price.

Not true based on the reports I'm seeing.This happens fairly frequently. Punters come here with pre-conceived notions which we must disprove, and when informed they stick to their position. Tedious really.

SL.

[Member #4591]

After seeing a couple of responses to my earlier thread about prices in Bangkok (2000-4000 Baht for full service).

My question is why would I ever go to Thailand for those mongering prices? Please tell me!?

German FKK's have much better line ups (white girls) and are cheaper!

For $130 I can go to the message parlors in San Francisco and get full service.

I can understand if you are close to Thailand geographically but if you are in say the US (California), it doesn't seem like the trip is worth it.


I was always under the impression that Thailand was a big destination for mongering because the currency rate was low and you could get service for a cheap price? Emphasize cheap price.

Not true based on the reports I'm seeing.

I did a backpacking trip to Thailand about 7 years ago and did engage in P4P in a gogo bar for about $120 US. Went to a room around the corner from the bar and popped twice. I remember going into a couple of message parlors and asking about prices and they seemed way to expensive for Thailand. I thing they wanted $150+ for message and full service. I thought this was a 3rd world country?The USD dollar exchange rate is about 34 Baht for every 1 USD. I normall pay 1900-2500 for 1- 2 hours at a Soapie or oily massage and 2,500-4,000 LT for a freelance or go go girl in Bangkok depending on the girl so let's use the most expensive comparisons.

73.52 USD or 2,500 Baht for a 2 hour massage session with 2 or more pops.

117.63 USD or 4,000 Baht for an all night session with 2 or more pops. 6-12 hours with the lady.

I'm sorry but how do you figure the US or Germany is better?

At the maximum prices I would expect to pay on a regular basis, and the time and service quality I would get, Thailand is far better than any suggestion you can make otherwise. Can you prove me wrong?

What about the cheaper options? What about the atitude of the ladies, length of time, quality of service, variety, opportunities for photos and videos......

Not only are your ideas out of whack but also your conversion from Thai Baht to USD. I guess hence your backpacking trip, that says it all.

[Goatscrot]

Goatscot,

I have always found what I believe where stunners in Thailand found in Spasso, Mixx, Lord Massage and G Club Take out. Are you saying there is superior looking Asia girls in China.

If there are I would be very interested to know where? Never really fancied the Chinese chicks, but I could be persuaded to take a short trip to investigate.

Thanks MS.HK, Shan, Bei, all full of them. I prefer the Chinese look to the Thai look myself. White skin and the pretty ones are well how can I put this, less "simian" looking. I find the gals in the higher end discos in Thailand to be meh at best. Especially for the prices they are asking. China's heyday is really over. They best times were the Chongping days before the crackdown.

[Christian G]

In FKK, you get one pop in 30 minutes for $100-130, in BKK, you get 90 to 120 minutes for 2 pop for less than $100.

Jb.Not need to useless argue FKK vs Thailand but your FKK's price are incorrect, standard 30min in a Germany FKK is 50€ and in some clubs 40€/30 min or 30€/30 min. Only artemis and few clubs other clubs cost 60€ for 30min. Unfortunately FKK have a la carte menu for all extras. IMHO FKK girls win for beauty, but thai girls win for service and perfomance. I'm looking more for perfomance so for me Thai is better, but Germany is only 1 HR flight and 20/30e flight ticket from my country, so easy to spend weekend there.

[Crocodilexp]

if you are talking about a destination just to monger, Jakarta has to top Thailand. Of course Thailand is a much better place to hang. Biggest issue with Thailand now is looks.

Looks are indeed notably better in Jakarta than Bangkok mongering scene (not to mention Pattaya, which has mostly dregs, but plenty of them). Unfortunately, overall, I don't find the Jakarta scene particularly appealing. At the lower end (Classic / Travel hotels), service is pretty much appalling, and at the higher end (e. G. Malioboro) the environment is still restrictive and mafia-run. I'd compare them Rachada soapies, which are not my favorite places in Bangkok either -- maybe it's just me, but I prefer more open-ended scene (e.g. freelancers, spots where a girl is at least free to go back to place of your choice if you so desire).

Jakarta has no places comparable to Bangkok PSE oilies like Tulip or Snow White (Maribaya allegedly, but it's not quite in the same league, nor as straightforward). Freelancers are scarce, and ridiculously expensive compared to local salaries (they ask 2 m rupiah overnight, which is pretty a month's rent at an OK place). Oddly enough, I never had truly great service in Jakarta (a few were OK, a few terrible)... maybe I'm going to the wrong places, or unwilling to spend enough.

Jakarta is, however, better than Bangkok for non-prostitute, quality girls, and being a foreigner is still a significant advantage, whereas in Thailand it's a mixed blessing these days.

[Syzygies]

So, WHY would anyone go to Thailand to pay higher prices then an FKK?Firstly I am not going to claim that Thailand has the cheapest mongering. Clearly Cambodia and Nigeria are far cheaper.

Don't come to Thailand unless you particularly like Thai girls. That is the first rule.

FKK girls are cheap at 50 Euros for 30 minutes (plus entrance fee). However if you want to spend a lot of time with the girl the price mounts up. If you want extras like CIM and anal, the price mounts up.

In Thailand there are places that have CIM and anal included for no extra charge.
If you get a 30 min session in FKK, for the same price or less including all costs, you could be with a Thai girl for 90 minutes, perhaps with CIM and anal thrown in, maybe multi shots.
So the big difference is you get more time for your money. No rush.

You can get a Thai girl for the entire night. That would cost you far too much in Europe. Probably 20% of that price in Thailand or less.
You can book a Thai girls for several days straight and take her on a holiday a cost vastly lower than what a Euro chick will cost you.
That way you can be at your favorite holiday destination (in Thailand) or nearby, and have a temporary wife for a few days who provides sex in proper quantities.

30 minute quickie with a girl is never enough for me. Therefore Thai girls can be quite a lot cheaper than FKK girls, especially if I take freelancers in Thailand for say 90 mins. I do like Asian girls. Even in FKK have taken Thai and Philippine girls.

Some mongers in Thailand may pay more than an FKK girl for 30 mins price. It's purely their choice. No one is forcing them. You definitely can get cheaper than FKK when you compare like for like in terms of time and service.
I f you like to take multiple girls for quick sessions in an AO club, you best stay there, as maybe hard to find a Thai equivalent for the right price.

When I first came to Thailand, I had a Thai girl in my bed for the night every night. Never had to sleep alone. These days, I don't need that, but at the time, it was special.

[Asian Rain]

117.63 USD or 4,000 Baht for an all night session with 2 or more pops. 6-12 hours with the lady.Assuming that THB4,000 just for the girl's service, if you add on the 700 b bar fine and very minimalist drinks / tip of 500 b, then you end up at THB5,200 "total cost" for a better end go go bar LT experience. That's circa USD150.

Interestingly, I just got back from Manila where I went to the EDSA Complex go go bars and did a takeout. Damage was exactly the same. Bar was PHP1,950 barfine plus p400 for minimalist drinks. LT was PHP5,000, so total was PHP7,350 all-in, which is the equivalent of THB5,100. So cost was pretty much at par. The quality I got was every bit as good, if not better, than anything I could have gotten at the subjectively "better" go go venues like Crazy House, etc. In BKK. In fact, for me it was absolutely better. The quality and experience I had from this girl was so good during our first round that I kept her overnight, something that I hadn't done in over 7 years (if that says anything). If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

The cost for high quality from tourist or "public-oriented" venues like go go bars has gotten way out of hand. But it is what it is. If you can't afford it, then I say to mongers better to manage your expectations. If your wallet is a constraint, you can try your luck in freelance bars, try the soapies/oilies, use chat apps or trawl the streets for alternatives.

Cost being what it is, if I were living in Southern California I would be driving down to Mexico to live like a sex tourist king on the devalued peso. Exchange rates matter, but only in limited temporal cases IMHO and the market adjusts quickly. I find the discussion below interesting not for the bickering about price, but more from the angle that shows that mongers have an immense variety of choices to make and, depending on their diverse (or perverse) preferences, they can choose a wide variety of venues with product to suit tastes and budgets. Thailand being what it is today, no way would I cram myself into an economy class seat for 10+ hours to pay for what is on the public menu at most Asian venues today. ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.

[Jude Bright]

Not need to useless argue FKK vs Thailand but your FKK's price are incorrect, standard 30min in a Germany FKK is 50 and in some clubs 40/30 min or 30/30 min. Only artemis and few clubs other clubs cost 60 for 30min. Unfortunately FKK have a la carte menu for all extras. IMHO FKK girls win for beauty, but thai girls win for service and perfomance. I'm looking more for perfomance so for me Thai is better, but Germany is only 1 HR flight and 20/30e flight ticket from my country, so easy to spend weekend there.I think you have to pay entrance fee in FKK between 45 to 60 euro unless you get waived.

Jb.

[Syzygies]

IMHO FKK girls win for beauty, but thai girls win for service and performance. Actually very few FKK girls are exceptionally pretty, and quite a few dogs, same as Thailand. So really only white skin is the advantage for some. It's likely you have a personal bias towards European looks. Venues with nice looking Thai girls can be found.

Thermae or a high end Soapy may be comparable to an FKK, except that unfortunately the girls are not nude.

If you want to fuck very so so looking pornstars, then Thailand is the best place, if you go to pornstar MP venues.

I can find very acceptable looks with great performance from both alternatives, with sex skills superior in FKK over Thailand in general.

However for money spent in a day of mongering, or in several consecutive days, Thailand should be significantly cheaper. In FKK, it is possible to spend quite big on several girls. Relatively few customers are confining themselves to just one session per day. No one should bother to come to Thailand just for a day or two of mongering. It's only worthwhile over a longer period.

If needing expensive dentistry done, flight to Thailand will pay for itself, in dentist savings.

[MagicSheep74]

Within the last 3 months, I done 7 days in Bangkok and 3 Days In FKK Frankfurt / Germany.

We all know the format in each country and the related costs etc. I was flying in from Spain, so my costs of flight to Germany was $200 and was $500 to Bangkok, so $300 in difference.

Summary.

Bangkok.

City. Its dynamic, intoxicating and exciting. The only place on this planet that anything can happen at anytime.

Girls. Mostly average, but occasionally stunning. I search high and low for the stunners, and when I find one, I work very hard to turn her into a freebie for a future holiday. It worked again from my last trip and the stunner and I go to Bali next month for a 7 day vacation. . Naturally my other 6 days in Bangkok were spent Soi Cowboy, Soapy Massage Joint and the FL scene / Mixx / Spasso, Bars etc. I paid for 8 girls and nothing below a 7/10.

Summary. Thailand for me. I get off the plane smiling, continue smiling for 7 days, then go home happy every-time.

Frankfurt- 3 FKKS.

City. Miserable, but functional.

FKKS. Palace - Shark. OASE - 95% Romanian Girls - 50 euro fuck / Quality - 4/10 to 7/10. Did not see any stunners in any of the bigs 3 clubs.

Summary. Its serves a purpose I guess, one giant conveyor belt of fucking. Just not my thing, Romanians just don't make me happy, LOL.

Cost of Trips. All included / Flights / Hotel / Girls.

Thailand- 7 Days- $2000- Sex 10 Girls.

FKK Germany- 3 Days- $1500 Sex 6 Girls.

Thailand wins every time for me. Better food, Better Weather, Better Women, Better Atmosphere, and most importantly cheaper.

Cheers MS.

[Wolvenvacht]

Biggest issue with Thailand now is looks. When I look at the escorts in the China forum, they really are stunning and 90 min for about 140 USD. When all in that is a better deal than most GoGo gals in Thailand and for real lookers. White skin, great bodies, no baby. Also compare that to what the oldies are charging at Spaso these days.You mean that dozen or so photos in the China Classified ads forum? Repeated ad nauseam and heavily photoshopped and if indeed of the escort, probably taken years ago?

Honestly I cannot say that the looks of the Thai agogo girls has gone down in the 6 years or so I have been visiting Thailand.

[Goatscrot]

You mean that dozen or so photos in the China Classified ads forum? Repeated ad nauseam and heavily photoshopped and if indeed of the escort, probably taken years ago?

Honestly I cannot say that the looks of the Thai agogo girls has gone down in the 6 years or so I have been visiting Thailand.In the 15 years I have lived here I would say the GoGo, FL, and MP standards have changed quite a bit. Now you either get plastic surgery nightmares, gals who hit the 7/11 snacks to much, or oldies. The selection was more stocked with natural beauties years ago. And most were thin. Gals that have a modicum of sense are working on the net these days. The GoGos, MPs, oilies, and FLs out there are kind of the dregs.

When it comes to escorts, take a look at the HK sites. Compare prices and looks to what you see here on like sites. No comparison. And prices in HK now actually cheaper. And again, you can bet the Chinese dudes are demanding and getting good service.

[Smoothy]

ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE.Unfortunately, this is true.

[Goatscrot]

Cost being what it is, if I were living in Southern California I would be driving down to Mexico to live like a sex tourist king on the devalued peso. Exchange rates matter, but only in limited temporal cases IMHO and the market adjusts quickly. I find the discussion below interesting not for the bickering about price, but more from the angle that shows that mongers have an immense variety of choices to make and, depending on their diverse (or perverse) preferences, they can choose a wide variety of venues with product to suit tastes and budgets. Thailand being what it is today, no way would I cram myself into an economy class seat for 10+ hours to pay for what is on the public menu at most Asian venues today. ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.Spot on. I have friends in SoCal and they don't come to Asia anymore. It's too expensive compared with Mexico and parts South. When I moved to Thailand in 99 the average lay from a GoGo ran me 1 k plus 500 BF. That was about 37 USD. In Mexico cost was about 50 USD at the time. So Thailand was better VFM by far. Mexico has seen a price increase but not to the extent Thailand has. I have found that "markets" only adjust one way, and that's up. Prices in LOS for P4 P did not adjust down when the Baht went from 44 to 29 to the USD. In fact, they increased.
And your last statement is so true. Sad really. Although it seems Jakarta is still priced quite well. And the health centers in KL are not ridiculous either. I will stick to the fact that when we fish in the same pond as the locals, for the most part prices and service are better. Thailand of course is the exception with many Thai men paying far more than we do. Thailand is an outlier in so many ways.

[Banana Boi]

Why go to Thailand VS Germany / Switzerland?I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany? First you have to pay 2,600 baht or so for club entry. Then you need to rent a car at about 10,000 baht per week to go to the various clubs, especially in the best FKK area, Dusseldorf. Hotels are comparable in price as there are good cheap accommodations in both countries. There are VERY few hot German girls working in Germany. It's mainly Romanians most without much passion. 1840 baht per 30 minutes so 1 hour is 3,680 baht. Add to that an extra 1,840 baht per each of CIM, anal, COB, etc. DFK is also not a guarantee. Soon BBBJ will be at least another 1,840 baht. People complain about how expensive even a gogo girl is but I get them on their days off so no barfine and 3000-4000 baht for up to 18 hours. 1 hour at a place like Soi 6 in Pattaya for 1,350 baht. CIM, anal, etc. all included. Sure not all the Thai girls are hot but the same can be said for most of the Romanians. A top looker Romanian is super hot but top gogo girls in Pattaya and BKK ain't too shabby either.

As for Switzerland, just double the price of everything in Germany. Hotels maybe triple.

I do not have an Asian bias. In fact, for my entire life I preferred Caucasian girls over Asian girls yet I still think Thailand is a clear winner over Germany. The passion and kindheartedness some of these Thai girls have is amazing. 5 years of Romanians and I think I met maybe 3 of them with the same characteristics.

[Lakeside]

Thermae the freelancer bar in the basement of the Ruamchitt hotel is having a large selection of girls. Some are pretty hot and the actual pricing is ST 2500 and LT 5000 (no barfine needed).

[Smoothy]

Although it seems Jakarta is still priced quite well. The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.

[Syzygies]

You mean that dozen or so photos in the China Classified ads forum? Repeated ad nauseam and heavily photoshopped and if indeed of the escort, probably taken years ago?

Honestly I cannot say that the looks of the Thai agogo girls has gone down in the 6 years or so I have been visiting Thailand.I have to say I'm a bit skeptical about the decline as well. I want to see guys post their pics of stunners from many years ago. I checked my old photos. I was merely less fussy in those days. I actually prefer the looks of my girls in last 2 or 3 years for the most part.

I do accept there is an adverse effect from plastic surgery disasters, and from western junk food, e. G. Slurpies, however the better looking girls can still be found somewhere, perhaps not so much in the Oily MPs.

In my home country, young girls are vastly better looking than when I was 20 YO. Can Thailand realistically have declined for looks. I doubt it. Just the beauties are not desperate enough to take a shit job like an Oily.

Guys' tastes in girls changes.

[Goatscrot]

IIn my home country, young girls are vastly better looking than when I was 20 YO. Can Thailand realistically have declined for looks. I doubt it. Just the beauties are not desperate enough to take a shit job like an Oily.

Guys' tastes in girls changes.Really? In my home country they are all fat by that age. Far less better looking than they were when I was young.

[Goatscrot]

The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.Not that expensive if you stay out of the hotel bars.

[Sunlover2]

Demonia. Jun

Don't see a lot of reports on this place, so I thought I'd contribute.Thanks JiveMofo for the report on Demonia. We rarely hear much about the aggressive play side of things, so it is good to have some color applied to the available options.

SL.

[Smoothy]

Not that expensive if you stay out of the hotel bars.Oh ya? Where can you find good cheap free lancers in Jakarta? Even the girls at the down market Blok M bars charge 1 million rupiah if they are good looking. I don't consider the girls at Lokasari worth taking home so I am excluding them. It's rare to find any girl there who I'd rate above a 6 out of 10. I'd put those Lokasari girls in the same category as the girls standing in front of Nana hotel. I've lived in Jakarta for 20 years. In the past, there were plenty of free lancers and they were reasonably priced. Now the market has completely changed. The best looking girls now work in brothels with 1 hour short time rooms. The days where you could chat up a hot free lancer over a beer and take her home for a decent price disappeared about 10 years ago. I was in Bangkok the past week and took what I consider to be a true stunner home almost every night. It cost bar fine plus 2500 baht short time, but the quality was good. I find it hard to find free lance of that quality in Jakarta unless it's extremely expensive.

[Vrsabien]

The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.Yeah I agree with this. I like splurging on a top hotel and taking girl there but can only do it easy at Bangkok (although not easy with the 101 Premiere girls).

Finding girls in Jakarta for the hotel not easy, I make plans with brothel girls for hotel visit after they finish but they always too tired after since finishing at midnight or later and then its just a waste.

But yeah some of the Jakarta brothel rooms are way better than Bangkok massage rooms, so its a trade off.

To add a third country, I like KL and the fact you can hit their brothels / hotel brothels till 6 am. Not sure you can do that in Jakarta or where to do that in Bangkok.

[Member #4591]

Assuming that THB4,000 just for the girl's service, if you add on the 700 b bar fine and very minimalist drinks / tip of 500 b, then you end up at THB5,200 "total cost" for a better end go go bar LT experience. That's circa USD150.

Interestingly, I just got back from Manila where I went to the EDSA Complex go go bars and did a takeout. Damage was exactly the same. Bar was PHP1,950 barfine plus p400 for minimalist drinks. LT was PHP5,000, so total was PHP7,350 all-in, which is the equivalent of THB5,100. So cost was pretty much at par. The quality I got was every bit as good, if not better, than anything I could have gotten at the subjectively "better" go go venues like Crazy House, etc. In BKK. In fact, for me it was absolutely better. The quality and experience I had from this girl was so good during our first round that I kept her overnight, something that I hadn't done in over 7 years (if that says anything). If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

The cost for high quality from tourist or "public-oriented" venues like go go bars has gotten way out of hand. But it is what it is. If you can't afford it, then I say to mongers better to manage your expectations. If your wallet is a constraint, you can try your luck in freelance bars, try the soapies/oilies, use chat apps or trawl the streets for alternatives.

Cost being what it is, if I were living in Southern California I would be driving down to Mexico to live like a sex tourist king on the devalued peso. Exchange rates matter, but only in limited temporal cases IMHO and the market adjusts quickly. I find the discussion below interesting not for the bickering about price, but more from the angle that shows that mongers have an immense variety of choices to make and, depending on their diverse (or perverse) preferences, they can choose a wide variety of venues with product to suit tastes and budgets. Thailand being what it is today, no way would I cram myself into an economy class seat for 10+ hours to pay for what is on the public menu at most Asian venues today. ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.Funny how you just quoted the high end numbers of my post. What about the 1,900-2,500? And what about if I choose a freelancer at Climax for example? What barfine? I find these price discussions very old but when I see a member post something completely inaccurate, I will speak op.

[Asian Rain]

Funny how you just quoted the high end numbers of my post. What about the 1,900-2,500?Funny how you didn't get past the first paragraph of my post. If you had, you would have seen that I also benchmarked to short time, which was also about the same.

If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

Will try to type slower next time. Huhu. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

[Zauberfee]

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany?There are for sure exceptions from the venues you mentioned. If you go to Grimbergsauna (Gelsenkirchen) or FKK Arabella (Bochum) you pay 30 Euro (roughly 1. 200 THB) entrance fee and 30 minutes with all inclusive (incl. Anal, CIM) will cost 1. 200 THB on top. Most girls are from Romania or Bulgaria, most of them are no stunners, but usually more than doable. IMHO great bang for your buck.

I had the best sex and best service there . . . outside of Thailand ; )

[Jude Bright]

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany? First you have to pay 2,600 baht or so for club entry. Then you need to rent a car at about 10,000 baht per week to go to the various clubs, especially in the best FKK area, Dusseldorf. Hotels are comparable in price as there are good cheap accommodations in both countries. There are VERY few hot German girls working in Germany. It's mainly Romanians most without much passion. 1840 baht per 30 minutes so 1 hour is 3,680 baht. Add to that an extra 1,840 baht per each of CIM, anal, COB, etc. DFK is also not a guarantee. Soon BBBJ will be at least another 1,840 baht. People complain about how expensive even a gogo girl is but I get them on their days off so no barfine and 3000-4000 baht for up to 18 hours. 1 hour at a place like Soi 6 in Pattaya for 1,350 baht. CIM, anal, etc. all included. Sure not all the Thai girls are hot but the same can be said for most of the Romanians. A top looker Romanian is super hot but top gogo girls in Pattaya and BKK ain't too shabby either.

As for Switzerland, just double the price of everything in Germany. Hotels maybe triple.

I do not have an Asian bias. In fact, for my entire life I preferred Caucasian girls over Asian girls yet I still think Thailand is a clear winner over Germany. The passion and kindheartedness some of these Thai girls have is amazing. 5 years of Romanians and I think I met maybe 3 of them with the same characteristics.Well said.

Jb.

[Kurre]

There are for sure exceptions from the venues you mentioned. If you go to Grimbergsauna (Gelsenkirchen) or FKK Arabella (Bochum) you pay 30 Euro (roughly 1. 200 THB) entrance fee and 30 minutes with all inclusive (incl. Anal, CIM) will cost 1. 200 THB on top. Most girls are from Romania or Bulgaria, most of them are no stunners, but usually more than doable. IMHO great bang for your buck.

I had the best sex and best service there . . . outside of Thailand ; )I have to put those two places on my list.

For about 10 years I have been frequenting (time and money allowing) the big FKKs in Berlin and Hessen, spending 400-900 euros per day. Last December I made two visits to Dietzenbach and had a total of five sessions (including 3 threesomes) for less than 240 euros (plus 2 x 40 euro entrance fee). I enjoyed those visits as much as I have enjoyed the FKKs which have more stunners. This February I spent 6 days in Angeles and went well below my 200 euro daily budget (excluding accommodation and airfare) and had two of the best sexual encounters of my life.

For a mongering vacation, my current situation allows for budgeting about 3000 euros / week. Even a one week trip to Bkk from Europe becomes worthwhile if you buy your tickets in advance (500 euros) and stay in reasonably cheap accommodation (1000 baht / night). That would leave about 12 000 baht for food, local transportation and mongering. For 12 000 bahts, you could have multiple sessions at soapies and MPs, spend 2 hours with four ladies at Tulip, spend few hours or a night with 2 or 3 FLs or have some combination of above. Airfare to Germany plus a cheap (40 euro / night) hotel for a week will set me back about 440 euros. That would leave 365 euros for food, transportation (I would not want to spend 7 consecutive days at one FKK) and the hobby. I would feel very limited with my choices (threesomes, CIM, anal) with that budget in a big FKK.

For variety on a budget, Bangkok is currently my number one choice. I also agree with BananaBoi on the kindheartedness of Thais. I have been toying, though, with the idea of starting my trip to Thailand from Frankfurt with maybe a stopover in HKG or SIN on the way back.

[Goatscrot]

Oh ya? Where can you find good cheap free lancers in Jakarta? Even the girls at the down market Blok M bars charge 1 million rupiah if they are good looking. I don't consider the girls at Lokasari worth taking home so I am excluding them. It's rare to find any girl there who I'd rate above a 6 out of 10. I'd put those Lokasari girls in the same category as the girls standing in front of Nana hotel. I've lived in Jakarta for 20 years. In the past, there were plenty of free lancers and they were reasonably priced. Now the market has completely changed. The best looking girls now work in brothels with 1 hour short time rooms. The days where you could chat up a hot free lancer over a beer and take her home for a decent price disappeared about 10 years ago. I was in Bangkok the past week and took what I consider to be a true stunner home almost every night. It cost bar fine plus 2500 baht short time, but the quality was good. I find it hard to find free lance of that quality in Jakarta unless it's extremely expensive.Not a FL guy. Prefer the brothels. And the chat app scene is quite vibrant and less expensive than the hotel bars.

[XXL]

I couldn't resist chipping in on this controversy. Look at this website (Bangkok Escort). If I'm not mistaken it is supposed to feature "top" girls.

https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok.com/all-girls

Compare the girls to the LU at Oase, Sharks or any of the good FKKs. Which of the two are WAAAAY better-looking?

First off, the Thai girls have geezer's faces. If they were just a bit taller they could easily pass as ladyboys.

Second, many Thai girls are positioning themselves so as to hide their lower body. Look ma no butt!

Third, the pics are photoshopped, which is never a good sign.

I thought I'd unearthed a real stunner among them untill I noticed she was a he (https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok.com/gallery/guitar-age-20-ladyboy-163)

[Sunlover2]

I couldn't resist chipping in on this controversy. Look at this website (Bangkok Escort). If I'm not mistaken it is supposed to feature "top" girls.

https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok.com/all-girlsSo; your opinions of Thai woman and the Thailand P4 P scene are based on a single random website?

LOL you should have resisted.

SL.

[Banana Boi]

Compare the girls to the LU at Oase, Sharks or any of the good FKKs. Which of the two are WAAAAY better-looking?I haven't been to Oase or Sharks for a while. Any face pics to show us so we can compare?

[Syzygies]

So; your opinions of Thai woman and the Thailand P4 P scene are based on a single random website?

LOL you should have resisted.

SL.+1 on that. There are plenty of web sites not impressing me, however I am not even going to look at that one. I assume that plenty of guys will think the girls there look pretty damn good (even it may not be my taste). I am sure they don't generally look like LBs, regardless of height. Do we have some gross exaggeration?

P.S. Sharks has very limited stunners for face looks. Some good bodies, yes. It all depends on personal taste. There is no stunning girl pulling me back there consistently.

[MagicSheep74]

Upon looking at the website's you provided I agree, but I just spent 3 days for approximately 6 hours a day in FKK Oase, Palace and Sharks and never found anything stunning. I found a lot of slim Romanian girl who I would rate a 7/10, but nothing more attractive than that. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some stunning Eastern Chicks in my life, but just not in the FKK's in the last few years.

Last December I was in Thailand for a week, and although I have been several times to Bangkok I have still never used an Escort site. With so many other options for getting laid, I just have never felt the need to take that chance. I much prefer to establish a little chemistry and see what I am taking back to my hotel before I pay.

Maybe I was lucky this time in Bangkok, but I can say with complete confidence that the Freelancers I took back to my hotel from the High End Clubs in Bangkok were much more attractive than anything I seen in the FKKS. Not only that, they had much more pleasant personalities, were much more fun to be with, and cost $150 for 12 hours of there time.

Undoubtedly, both FKK's and Bangkok are both excellent in there own right. For me personally though, if I was mongering in Europe I would choose the Spanish clubs over the FKK's for short time sex. In these clubs there are no entrance costs, and you get an excellent mix of Latin and Eastern European Women for approx 70 euro for 30 minutes. Rather than 95% Romanians, which as a culture are normally ruthless, emotionless robots.

Cheers.

[XXL]

So; your opinions of Thai woman and the Thailand P4 P scene are based on a single random website?
Not random. I had first picked the Bangkok escort site that advertises on this forum but I thought better of it and replaced it by one that doesn't advertise here. The one that advertises had a much worse line-up though.

Here you see quite a few faces. Most importantly, you see flesh. No photoshop. Some of these pics give me a tingling in the trouser department:

http://www.goldentime.de/index.php/preise/girls

[Achmmc]

I'm pretty sure that Smooci.com is going to put a pretty big dent in escorts services in BKK.

[Banana Boi]

Here you see quite a few faces. Most importantly, you see flesh. No photoshop. Some of these pics give me a tingling in the trouser department:

http://www.goldentime.de/index.php/preise/girlsImo you're not helping your argument by saying the girls in your link are better than the top Thai girls. We clearly have a different opinion on what a pretty face looks like. Mine is not a porn star looking over-the-hill blonde. I never understood why GT used face pics like these to promote themselves. They do have very pretty girls. I absolutely agree GT has facial stunners but not those on their site.

I'm sure you recognize my name from the GT thread. I'm GT's 2nd biggest fan after PL. I love GT but I also love the lineup in some of the top Pattaya gogo bars as well.

[DwayneJohnson]

I'm pretty sure that Smooci.com is going to put a pretty big dent in escorts services in BKK.They seem to have some sort of arrangement with escort services as all escort agencies are on this app. IMHO, smooci is going to increase sales of escort agencies who affiliate with it.

Guys like me who usually would not try an escort in bkk would give smooci a try because it has all girls at one place and tracking mechanism. Discount given is added bonus.

[DwayneJohnson]

Here you see quite a few faces. Most importantly, you see flesh. No photoshop. Some of these pics give me a tingling in the trouser department:

http://www.goldentime.de/index.php/preise/girlsLOL, I would not fuck some of the girls in that link for free. Now, I am having second thoughts about my summer trip to Germany.

[XXL]

I never understood why GT used face pics like these to promote themselves. I guess they do so because they're not allowed to show faces unless they make the whole thing look as some sort of acting or masquerade. Hence the clownishness.

[Achmmc]

They seem to have some sort of arrangement with escort services as all escort agencies are on this app. IMHO, smooci is going to increase sales of escort agencies who affiliate with it. Guys like me who usually would not try an escort in bkk would give smooci a try because it has all girls at one place and tracking mechanism. Discount given is added bonus.. Certainly Smooci prices trend lower, guaranteed availability window, nice Ubber like tracking of the girl in route. And the rating / feedback star system (if it can be trusted) is helpful as well. My understanding is that the girls do not have to be affiliated with an agency to be listed with Smooci. Stickman's column is / and has publicized Smooci. I want to see it be successful so I can use it later this year. DK why it wouldn't, I think it can only gain momentum.

Yeap, there must be some "arrangement" with other agencies that tolerates some of their girls working outside of their system.

[Smoothy]

Not a FL guy. Prefer the brothels. And the chat app scene is quite vibrant and less expensive than the hotel bars.I agree that brothels in Jakarta are cheap. As far as chat apps, I have had over a hundred girls come to my room from chat apps. But if paying the girl, it's not cheap. They still want a million rupiah. And it's hit or miss with that. I prefer going to a place where I can meet a girl in person, chat her up, and take her home if I like her. I do think Bangkok is a better option for those who prefer taking girls to their own room.

[Member #4591]

Funny how you didn't get past the first paragraph of my post. If you had, you would have seen that I also benchmarked to short time, which was also about the same.

If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

Will try to type slower next time. Huhu. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.I don't care about what you say is on par or not with BKK. Posting false comments by not considering all the choices is misleading to the members and you are totally wrong.

[Goatscrot]

I agree that brothels in Jakarta are cheap. As far as chat apps, I have had over a hundred girls come to my room from chat apps. But if paying the girl, it's not cheap. They still want a million rupiah. And it's hit or miss with that. I prefer going to a place where I can meet a girl in person, chat her up, and take her home if I like her. I do think Bangkok is a better option for those who prefer taking girls to their own room.1 million is 2600 Baht. That's not going to get you a good GoGo gal in BKK when you add in BF and drinks. Could easily be double that.

[Frommmm]

Hi everyone,

While I have been many times mongering in Philippines, next month I will be in BKK for work for 3 days, and I never been there. I will have 3 free afternoons and nights, and would like to optimize my time. I'm asking to the experienced members where to go considering the short time I have, and the deep sessions I would like to enjoy.

In the afternoons, after lunch, I would like to try the 3 best massage parlors in town for a couple hours fun, better if the place allows to take 2 girls at time in the room. Which place I will not have to miss? It's only 3 days, so I will not care to spend a little more than usual, unless I can find some really hotties, in the early 20's and very very skinny (my favorite).

In the 3 nights, I would like to organize 3 some.

Somebody earlier suggested me to stay in the Sukhumvit's area, mainly because I will be very near to the action. Is that correct?

Thanks a lot guys for the help, and if you need some info about Philippines, Manila, Cebu, Angeles or whatever I'm here.

[Smoothy]

1 million is 2600 Baht. That's not going to get you a good GoGo gal in BKK when you add in BF and drinks. Could easily be double that.The girls I was taking in Bangkok from the go-gos last week were FAR nicer quality than those 1 million rupiah internet chicks in Jakarta. There are girls in Jakarta as nice as those top go-go chicks, but they want 2 or 3 million. There were a ton of girls on tinder in Bangkok more than willing to come to my room for 2500 baht. But again, I do prefer meeting the girl in person first and chatting her up a bit first. I'm not saying Bangkok is cheap. It's the same price as Jakarta for free lancers of any given quality level. However, there is more selection for the type of girls that will come to your room in Bangkok.

[JiveMofo]

Thanks JiveMofo for the report on Demonia. We rarely hear much about the aggressive play side of things, so it is good to have some color applied to the available options.

SL.Sure. I'd recommend it for those interested in trying out the BDSM scene, however, as noted, I wouldn't expect a truly authentic experience. Also, Jun told me that most of the customers are actually looking to be dominated / pegged. Not my thing however so can't speak to the quality there.

[D Cups]

Asian Rain is good at making false comments and he will never apologize for them when he is caught. The guy is a first class asshole.


I don't care about what you say is on par or not with BKK. Posting false comments by not considering all the choices is misleading to the members and you are totally wrong..

[Asian Rain]

I don't care about what you say is on par or not with BKK. Posting false comments by not considering all the choices is misleading to the members and you are totally wrong.Yawn. You have the filthy habit of quibbling with everybody about everything about nothing of importance. Most members have the facutly to make up their own minds about what is fact and what is opinion. Stop biting your nails and get back to boring us with your vivid posts about 10,000 bhat date girls and chat app uni girls. We welcome those who adhere to the topic and contribute. So get that chip of your shoulder and sleep well in the assurance that your posts are infinitely more useful and interesting than mooch D Cups endless juvenile posts about "boobies" and his day-by-day Bataan death march count to never-going-to-happen retirement in the sticks of the Philippines. You are well above that par. Huhu. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.

[Wolvenvacht]

In the afternoons, after lunch, I would like to try the 3 best massage parlors in town for a couple hours fun, better if the place allows to take 2 girls at time in the room. Which place I will not have to miss? It's only 3 days, so I will not care to spend a little more than usual, unless I can find some really hotties, in the early 20's and very very skinny (my favorite).The answer will depend on what you mean by "best massage parlors". Even "massage parlor" means different things. Do you want a real massage followed by a happy ending, or is the massage only a pretext for a PSE session? And if so, is your preference for an "oilie" or a "soapie" style salon? As you like very very skinny, an oilie style salon is probably more to your liking; soapie body-to-body massages with skinny ladies are not fun (in my opinion).



In the 3 nights, I would like to organize 3 some. The only sure-fire way to get a threesome where the girls will interact with each other is to go to the Eden Club in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. Some like it much, others hate it.

Picking two girls at random from the street or from a bar or agogo-club, is unlikely to get you a good threesome session. Most likely you will fuck them sequentially, and the non-active girl will watch TV or play with her smartphone. Or hides in the bathroom. Seasoned BKK monghers may have found "winning" combinations. Unlikely you can do that in 3 days only, unless you are extremely lucky.


Somebody earlier suggested me to stay in the Sukhumvit's area, mainly because I will be very near to the action. Is that correct?Sukhumvit Road is one of the longest roads in Thailand. It starts in Bangkok and ends at the Cambodian border. Make sure that you are at the right end of the road! Any hotel not far away from the Asoke skytrain station will be ok. Look in the Bangkok hotel thread for more info.

[Vittu]

As for myself, I enjoy watching Asian Rain youtube videos about sin in Thailand. Well done, whether the same guy or different.

[Crocodilexp]

1 million is 2600 Baht. That's not going to get you a good GoGo gal in BKK when you add in BF and drinks. Could easily be double that.

For me, those 1 million rupiah (2600 baht) freelancers in Jakarta are an equivalent of the 1000 baht freelancers in Bangkok a few years ago. Similar to what Mr. Goatscrot once eloquently said, I still think their service is worth about 1000 baht, although the prices certainly went up over the years.

To be satisfied at the 2600 baht level, I'd need either a Tulip-level service, exceptional looks, or both. Compared to prices of other goods in Indonesia, it gets even worse -- 1m rupiah is 2-4 hotel nights in Bali, and these days they often have a cheek to ask well over 1m. I like Bali... and they even have a few acceptable 250k (650 baht) ST houses there.

[Goatscrot]

The girls I was taking in Bangkok from the go-gos last week were FAR nicer quality than those 1 million rupiah internet chicks in Jakarta. There are girls in Jakarta as nice as those top go-go chicks, but they want 2 or 3 million. There were a ton of girls on tinder in Bangkok more than willing to come to my room for 2500 baht. But again, I do prefer meeting the girl in person first and chatting her up a bit first. I'm not saying Bangkok is cheap. It's the same price as Jakarta for free lancers of any given quality level. However, there is more selection for the type of girls that will come to your room in Bangkok.Smoothy, with all due respect; not to my eye. I rarely see any BKK GoGo gals that I find attractive. I am just not interested in paying big money for Isaan looks.

[PeterCat123]

I've read the forums and have an idea of Bangkok. I'm in Bangkok soon and am wondering how easily it is to take a girl home from one of the g clubs (E. G. Pimp). I'm in my late 20's, athletic build and don't mind spending money at the clubs. What I would like to avoid is to spend a few hours there and not be able to take someone back. Understand that one should speak to the mamas but if there a way to increase the odds?

[Solo Traveler]

The comparison between Germany and Thailand is empty due to several difference in essence.

In Thailand, the working women are mostly Asian (Thai), while in Germany the working women are mostly Eastern European (Romanian).

For Europeans from Europe, Thai women of course have more attraction due to the exotic factor.

For Asians from Asia, Romanian women of course have more attraction due to exotic factor.

As for people from North America or other well-known melting pot countries where you are already mingling with women of all sorts of race, it depends.

The best way is to arrange two one-week vacation to both places respectively, try them both in a laid-back way, and after that you will find out what really suits you most.

My suggestion to all Asian fellows (Asian Asian, Asian American / Canadian, or whatever Asian you are) is no doubt to visit German FKK Sauna Clubs.

Trust me, Eastern European women (Romanian women) are far better than Asian women. LOL.

[Member #4591]

Yawn. You have the filthy habit of quibbling with everybody about everything about nothing of importance. Most members have the facutly to make up their own minds about what is fact and what is opinion. Stop biting your nails and get back to boring us with your vivid posts about 10,000 bhat date girls and chat app uni girls. We welcome those who adhere to the topic and contribute. So get that chip of your shoulder and sleep well in the assurance that your posts are infinitely more useful and interesting than mooch D Cups endless juvenile posts about "boobies" and his day-by-day Bataan death march count to never-going-to-happen retirement in the sticks of the Philippines. You are well above that par. Huhu. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.When I see one of your posts in the reports of distinction thread then you can talk to me. Until then, enjoy making your Cheap Charlie vids. They are suitable for some people and I must say you are good at it. Moving forward, If you don't like Thailand, then I suggest you stop commenting in the Thailand forum. If I don't like something, I stay away. So why are you still here commenting in a forum about a location you hate? By the way, enjoy the Philippines, I hear it's great and plan to go someday. Nothing personal.

[D Cups]

Thanks, Asia Rain. Glad to see you are still reading my posts. You can go fuck yourself in the ass now you worthless lying puke.

[Member #4591]

I've read the forums and have an idea of Bangkok. I'm in Bangkok soon and am wondering how easily it is to take a girl home from one of the g clubs (E. G. Pimp). I'm in my late 20's, athletic build and don't mind spending money at the clubs. What I would like to avoid is to spend a few hours there and not be able to take someone back. Understand that one should speak to the mamas but if there a way to increase the odds?Increasing the odds by doing more than speaking to the Moma? If you speak to the Moma, you are guaranteed if you make a firm arrangement with her. Don't just tell her you want to meet a lady open to the idea. Firm up the lady and the price with the Moma before attending the club. Add them on their line app and discuss there. She will send you the ladies photo and make a booking for you to spend time drinking with her. You will however pay a huge fee. I prefer to go there, choose a lady for one hour, if she not game, cut her loose and choose another.

[Member #4591]

Hi everyone,

While I have been many times mongering in Philippines, next month I will be in BKK for work for 3 days, and I never been there. I will have 3 free afternoons and nights, and would like to optimize my time. I'm asking to the experienced members where to go considering the short time I have, and the deep sessions I would like to enjoy.

In the afternoons, after lunch, I would like to try the 3 best massage parlors in town for a couple hours fun, better if the place allows to take 2 girls at time in the room. Which place I will not have to miss? It's only 3 days, so I will not care to spend a little more than usual, unless I can find some really hotties, in the early 20's and very very skinny (my favorite).

In the 3 nights, I would like to organize 3 some.

Somebody earlier suggested me to stay in the Sukhumvit's area, mainly because I will be very near to the action. Is that correct?

Thanks a lot guys for the help, and if you need some info about Philippines, Manila, Cebu, Angeles or whatever I'm here.Stay betweeen Sukhumbit Soi 2-33. Nana and Prompong. That will give you access to all the bars, massage shops, and the two main red light districts, Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. Sofitel Sukhumvit and the Four Points Sheridan are near Thermae, a famous freelancer bar and very near to Soi Cowboy.

As for ideas about a threesome, if you want a sure thing, go to the Eden club. However, if I was you, I would go to Susie Wong and find 2 girls there. Another option is 2 good friends working as freelancers at Climax. I personally like the hunt so that's why I would choose that option. Search the Go go bars for 2 ladies that seem close, it won't be easy but the rewards could be high.

Moving to the massage parlors. I recommend Snow White on Soi 26 and Lords and Emaual on Ratchada. You will get the snooty hot Thai girl on Ratchada and then the PSE girl from Snow White. Good luck mate.

[DwayneJohnson]

I'm in my late 20's, athletic build and don't mind spending money at the clubs. What I would like to avoid is to spend a few hours there and not be able to take someone back. Understand that one should speak to the mamas but if there a way to increase the odds?Dude you are at a serious disadvantage being young and fit. Girls will assume you to be one of those guys looking to score freebies in Asia. You will have to flash lot of cash to attract attention of 9+ stunners while average girls would be game for freebie but you would not travel so much for average would you?

[JHawk88]

I have a question I haven't seen so I thought I would ask away. I am staying in Bangkok for the majority of my stay (Dynasty Grande) but I am thinking of going to Pattaya for a weekend. My question is the following: should I check out of the Dynasty when I go to Pattaya or just reserve my room for the full duration of my stay and take a small bag with me down to Pattaya. Also on a side note I was curious if anyone was able to negotiate a better rate when contacting the hotel reservation group directly. I tried this but they quoted me a rate that is higher than their own website, made no sense to me.

Thank you for any feedback.

[Smoothy]

Dude you are at a serious disadvantage being young and fit. It depends. The lady boys are all over those guys who are young and fit.

[Uncle Volodya]

Dude you are at a serious disadvantage being young and fit. Girls will assume you to be one of those guys looking to score freebies in Asia. You will have to flash lot of cash to attract attention of 9+ stunners while average girls would be game for freebie but you would not travel so much for average would you?Ummm. Yeah. Right.

Even p4 p girls would rather go with an attractive guy than one that is not. Age doesn't matter as much. But its still a factor.

I doubt any working girls will reject you because you are young. Just don't wait for them to come to you. When you see something you like go get it and prepare to pay just like the old, out of shape guys do.

Being young and fit you should also give the dating sites a shot. But it is time consuming and probably not worth it if you are only in town for a few days. If you are there for longer start chatting with girls a few weeks before your trip.

[ItIsMe83]

Ummm. Yeah. Right.

Even p4 p girls would rather go with an attractive guy than one that is not. Age doesn't matter as much. But its still a factor.

I doubt any working girls will reject you because you are young. Just don't wait for them to come to you. When you see something you like go get it and prepare to pay just like the old, out of shape guys do.

Being young and fit you should also give the dating sites a shot. But it is time consuming and probably not worth it if you are only in town for a few days. If you are there for longer start chatting with girls a few weeks before your trip.May I add from own experience: Malls & 7 Eleven's girls. Especially at malls, keep your eyes open. So many girls try to flirt but you usually do have to make the first step in 75% of cases as they tend to be shy to approach themselves. But there's lot of potential if you are young and white and walking around alone sit down somewhere in the middle of the mall and you pretty soon will make contact with people. As a young person myself I did feel it was much easier for me too everywhere but gogo bars. But that's also indeed because at gogo you have to show some more initiative whereas at beer bars and other places you can talk much easier with everyone or more at the same time. At Gogo's they do seem to love the Asian's and you will def pay the same prices indeed as anyone else. Didn't got much cheaper prices offered just for being younger or them being attracted. Might get better prices after your first 'date' tho (without bar involved).

[Red Kilt]

Ummm. Yeah. Right.

Even p4 p girls would rather go with an attractive guy than one that is not. Age doesn't matter as much. But its still a factor.

I doubt any working girls will reject you because you are young. Just don't wait for them to come to you. When you see something you like go get it and prepare to pay just like the old, out of shape guys do.Hey Uncle I think you might have missed the irony in Dwayne's response.

When guys come on here describing themselves as "young and attractive" they usually end up reporting how the girls offer them freebies all day and night, and I suspect Dwayne was mocking this trend.

Nevertheless, everything you said is correct.

[Sunlover2]

I have a question I haven't seen so I thought I would ask away. I am staying in Bangkok for the majority of my stay (Dynasty Grande) but I am thinking of going to Pattaya for a weekend. My question is the following: should I check out of the Dynasty when I go to Pattaya or just reserve my room for the full duration of my stay and take a small bag with me down to Pattaya.If you can get the same rate and don't mind packing / unpacking; check out of the Dynasty Grande and have the bell desk keep your major luggage. Advise them of your return date and a small tip should take care of it.

FWIW the is a Bangkok Hotels thread on this message board this question should have probably been asked there.

SL.

[Smoothy]

Even p4 p girls would rather go with an attractive guy than one that is not. Age doesn't matter as much. But its still a factor.Not necessarily. A lot of girls would prefer an older guy simply because if they go with a younger guy, they might get shagged hard 10 times in a night. An older guy will shag them once and go to sleep.

[D Cups]

LOL you guys are too funny. When I was young and dumb and fit as a GI, it was easy to bang the busty young tiny twat beauties for the cost of a meal if that. Most of them just wanted a white schwantztooka and the remote possibility of a green card. Now that I'm older, chubbier and more affluent I pay a little more but still keep it in the market rate range. Maybe because I am still hamsum?? Hahaha. Anyway, no need to flood the economy like some of these millionaire fools.

Cheers, Smoothy. I hope you don't let our political differences get between us. I know you are a boob dude, too, and have admired your selections and referrals.


It depends. The lady boys are all over those guys who are young and fit..

[Uncle Volodya]

Not necessarily. A lot of girls would prefer an older guy simply because if they go with a younger guy, they might get shagged hard 10 times in a night. An older guy will shag them once and go to sleep.Sorry Dwayne if I didn't catch the irony.

Smoothy, I am not so sure. I have heard a few girls complain: "old man take tablet boom boom too mut". The joys of modern medicine. 555

[DwayneJohnson]

Sorry Dwayne if I didn't catch the irony.

Hint of reality in that irony. It happened to me in Thermae when I was 29. One smoking hot babe completely ignored my advances and latched on to first old, Japanese guy she could find. I was ready to pay more than she got from other guy but could not even start a conversation, she pretended as if I did exist at all. After this I made sure to flash a bundle of few thousand baht before buying Sangsom + redbull at the counter.

[Uncle Volodya]

Hint of reality in that irony. It happened to me in Thermae when I was 29. One smoking hot babe completely ignored my advances and latched on to first old, Japanese guy she could find. I was ready to pay more than she got from other guy but could not even start a conversation, she pretended as if I did exist at all. After this I made sure to flash a bundle of few thousand baht before buying Sangsom + redbull at the counter.Well Thermae is not the best case to draw conclusions from. Many girls won't even look at Farang there. If you got rejected its because you were Farang not because you were young.

[World Travel 69]

Sukhumvit 6 alley / Chai Saman Alley. 10 Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 10 am to 1 am.

This one is hard to find. If you walk down the street past L o l I t a s' s, it looks like a dead end, but is not. On the it opens onto another street. The sign on one wall Soi 8. The club on the left would Kasalong.

[Amazon2323]

I am new here and soon I will post pictures in the Kenya threat and the Philippine threat.

I am right now in Bangkok, its 7 am and I am looking for freelancer / streetgirls.

Any opinions?

[EihTooms]

Hint of reality in that irony. It happened to me in Thermae when I was 29. One smoking hot babe completely ignored my advances and latched on to first old, Japanese guy she could find. I was ready to pay more than she got from other guy but could not even start a conversation, she pretended as if I did exist at all. After this I made sure to flash a bundle of few thousand baht before buying Sangsom + redbull at the counter.I think younger, better looking men in these circumstances need to make it clear asap to the P4 P girls they approach that they ARE indeed eager potential "customers" and not trolling for another free girlfriend for the night. I know some younger, good-looking guys who take it as a challenge to try to get a P4P girl to agree to go with them for free. How tiresome that exchange must be to a girl who genuinely needs some fast cash to cover rent and phone bills. They look at older, fatter dudes and immediately think, "CUSTOMER". They look at a younger, fit guy and aren't even sure he is a genuine potential customer or not. They probably wonder why he hasn't got plenty of younger, prettier girlfriends around town already to keep him busy tonight. And, in fact, he probably does have plenty of girlfriends around town already, another reason the P4 P girl is reluctant to get into that mix and be expected to compete against the real deal he has lined up on his phone.

Many of those girls are certain in their minds a young, good-looking farang guy will find fault with them once they get a closer look and reject them anyway. So their move is to reject him first. And perhaps even to make a bit of a show of it. To save Face.

[Solo Traveler]

I think younger, better looking men in these circumstances need to make it clear asap(. They look at older, fatter dudes and immediately think, "CUSTOMER". They look at a younger, fit guy and aren't even sure he is a genuine potential customer or not.
Many of those girls are certain in their minds a young, good-looking farang guy will find fault with them once they get a closer look and reject them anyway. So their move is to reject him first. And perhaps even to make a bit of a show of it. To save Face.The women are there to work to make money.

Most of them are in the down of their lives, and desperate for fast cash.

For them, money is above everything.

Otherwise, they will probably work in a shop instead of a P4P venue.

Being good-looking and manly does not help much regarding P4P. The generally young and muscular Turkish punters in Germany is a good example. The working women prefer old fat German locals than some young good-looking muscular youngsters.

If you want to attract women purely by your appearance and personality, not your money or an access to a new valuable passport, then you're definitely in the wrong venue.

But then again, even if a woman is not from a P4 P venue, you still risk her turning into a gold digger in the end.

[Sunlover2]

I am right now in Bangkok, its 7 am and I am looking for freelancer / streetgirls.

Any opinions?That time of the morning you can probably find a few exceptionally unattractive ladies or LB's on soi 4 near the entrance to the NEP, and on Sukhumvit between soi 3 to soi 5.

SL.

[SexInStl]

Sukhumvit 6 alley / Chai Saman Alley. 10 Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 10 am to 1 am.

This one is hard to find. If you walk down the street past L o l I t a s' s, it looks like a dead end, but is not. On the it opens onto another street. The sign on one wall Soi 8. The club on the left would Kasalong.I love this place. When the discussion of value was going on, all I could think was how I could go here every day for $28 US and have hot Thai (legal) get buck naked, let me play with her a bit and then blow me and swallow it as a part of my break from my afternoon walk.

And happily clean me up afterwards.

I love BKK.

[Solo Traveler]

First off, the Thai girls have geezer's faces. If they were just a bit taller they could easily pass as ladyboys.
I thought I'd unearthed a real stunner among them until I noticed she was a heWhen viewing Thai women, if it ever occurs to you that the woman you see is masculine in some way, or she is just way too good-looking to be true, then there is no doubt that he is in fact a man!

Last time I checked Nana Plaza, the only two bars that actually caught my attention were Obsession and Straps, both of which were full of ladyboys (transgenders).

And the reason why they are a lot more sexually attractive than ordinary women was pretty simple. They all had countless plastic surgeries on their faces and their whole bodies.

So, basically, if you take one of those transgenders, you're not only fucking their male asshole (Obsession) or artificial vaginas (Straps), you're also experiencing the world's most advanced plastic surgeries. LOL.

That said, as the old saying remains correct, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and "Different strokes for different folks".

If you do not consider Thai women (sometimes transgenders) beautiful or attractive anymore, it's time to move on to another destination.

This was exactly my case. I probably won't visit Thailand again.

[Solo Traveler]

Hint of reality in that irony. It happened to me in Thermae when I was 29. One smoking hot babe completely ignored my advances and latched on to first old, Japanese guy she could find.Working Women in Bangkok have their own taste for certain clients, which is one reason I don't like there.

Similar to you, but kind of different, you're rejected in Thermae because you're not Asian, while I was rejected by Uzbekistani women in Grace Hotel because I'm not Middle Eastern.

Just for the record, my ethnicity is Chinese. But I prefer non-Asian women. LOL.

Thermae and some venues are known to cater for Asian guests.

Soi 3 and Grace Hotel for Middle Eastern guests.

Soi 4 bars and restaurants for Western guests.

Etc.

Like I said, I went through the same shit in Grace Hotel. You're not alone.

[Banana Boi]

Working Women in Bangkok have their own taste for certain clients, which is one reason I don't like there............my ethnicity is Chinese. If you are Asian you would be a preferred (or equally preferred) client by the majority of Thai girls. Were there specific places you visited in Pattaya and Bangkok that you felt you were shunned because you were Asian?

Agree with you that Nana feels like a complete ladyboy plaza. Did you not see any girls to your liking in Rainbow 5, Twisters, or Billboard? These are the non ladyboy gogo bars in Nana.

One of the good things about Thermae is they keep the ladyboys out. That's why you see all the ladyboys standing on the stairs just outside of Thermae.

[EihTooms]

I love this place. When the discussion of value was going on, all I could think was how I could go here every day for $28 US and have hot Thai (legal) get buck naked, let me play with her a bit and then blow me and swallow it as a part of my break from my afternoon walk.

And happily clean me up afterwards.

I love BKK.You find that cum swallowing at the end of a BJ is common in Kasalong (or L0lita's) for the regular 800 baht fee plus another 150 baht or so tip? Life's been very good to you. What is your rap for making sure cum swallowing occurs at the end? Or is the 150 baht tip plus your natural charm and attractiveness enough to insure it? (smile)

[SexInStl]

You find that cum swallowing at the end of a BJ is common in Kasalong (or L0lita's) for the regular 800 baht fee plus another 150 baht or so tip? Life's been very good to you. What is your rap for making sure cum swallowing occurs at the end? Or is the 150 baht tip plus your natural charm and attractiveness enough to insure it? (smile)I'd been to LoIitas once and Kasalong once, before this last couple of times at Kasalong when I saw the same girl over a few days - 800 baht for the standard deal, but when I got to the room I asked if she could completely undress for another 100 baht and then let me play with her for a bit for another 100 baht. The CIM I guess she just gave as extra, because now that I think about it. That didn't happen the other times, with different girls.

Tip appreciation is nice!

[Bad Duck]

As a newbie, I've realized that to RTFF can be a misleading if not confusing. Since a lot of us rely on FR's that are submitted by senior mongers, let's try to summarize a template that can potentially help out fellow ISGians find some great action in Bangkok. If you have ever had a good time in this land, copy this template and paste it with your personal answers. Hope this helps out people find exactly what they are looking for.

Best Girl GoGo Bar:

Best Party Club for Dancing:

Best Party Club for Freelancers:

Best Girl Freelancer Soi:

Best BJ Bar:

Best Place for 3 Some:

Best Happy Ending Massage Place:

Best Nuru / Soapie Masssage Place:

Best GF Hotel:

Best Escort Agency.

[EihTooms]

I'd been to LoIitas once and Kasalong once, before this last couple of times at Kasalong when I saw the same girl over a few days - 800 baht for the standard deal, but when I got to the room I asked if she could completely undress for another 100 baht and then let me play with her for a bit for another 100 baht. The CIM I guess she just gave as extra, because now that I think about it. That didn't happen the other times, with different girls.

Tip appreciation is nice!Actually, I was talking about the part if your post suggesting that cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob was common practice at Kasalong Bar. But now you seem to be reporting that mere CIM was not provided in your first couple of visits to Kasalong Bar and L0lita's but was eventually provided by a girl you saw a few times at Kasalong Bar. And that was provided as an "extra" bonus, possibly because you saw her a few times or tipped her an extra 100 bt. Is that about right? Maybe I misunderstood.

CIM finish should be standard service provided in any bar purporting to be a BJ bar like Kasalong Bar and L0lita's for the basic rate (800 bt these days) and no extra tip required. But, in my experience at least, cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob is not commonly provided (I wish it were! Lol) but might be provided as a nice bonus by a girl who either likes you enough to do it or just routinely finishes the blowjob that way or who might do it if an additional tip is offered to get her do it.

Perhaps there is a language difference or definition confusion here; Cum in Mouth (CIM) is not the same thing as cum swallowing.

[Goons]

Unlike many, I have a day pack because I am out for the day. I had a couple places that will require you to check the bag; I refuse and walk. The problem is that it is not safe to keep your valuables in your bag and having too many things in your pockets reduces the value of a lap dance. In massage places, just keep you bags with you. In some upmarket places in other countries, there are attendants in changing rooms with security bracelets as it takes 2 to open your locker. Safer but anything can be defeated.

I don't like my picture taken. Shit happens. Like the guy that tired to eat a girl last year in Pattaya.

I always have non-TSA combination locks for my bags. It is basically useless. A safe in room is better or maybe even downstairs. As most travelers will tell you, leave your valuables at home and travel light. I don't stay in budget hotels so I am not sure how safe they are. I have traveled for decades and have never had a major problem with room security. Most the problems I hear about theft are actually theft by fellow travelers.Thanks. I was going to reply sooner but I had trouble finding the post.

I will be staying in a budget hotel, something like City Lodge or Maxim's inn or something in that general area for convenience. I've never had anything stolen but in Kl, my locks were tampered with and I've heard fist hand accounts of theft from people in Manila and Vietnam so it's best to be careful.

If I leave my day pack I can fit my camera and important stuff in a small camera bag sort of like a holster. I don't know if that makes me stick out more or draw more attention compared to a 25 l North Face backpack with the camera inside.

On to other things.

I've been RTFF on and off for the past two weeks, didn't get far but got some useful info in between the posts where users argue and sifted through about 15-20 pages of discussions on which Viagra is the real Viagra.

Anyway, some things I would like to clarify which I don't think I've found while doing my browsing.

BJ bars. It's been implied that CIM would require a bit extra or may depend upon the girl. Is there a set price with that or is it negotiable? I've also read that it's around 1200 bhat for full service at these bars, is that 1200 total after or including the BJ, or is it a separate fee? Also, if I want a double BJ is it two girls and two pops?

Eden. I've read there are many other similar places popping up but I don't recall anyone mentioning the names.

Thanks in advance.

[Klassic]

As a newbie, I've realized that to RTFF can be a misleading if not confusing. Since a lot of us rely on FR's that are submitted by senior mongers, let's try to summarize a template that can potentially help out fellow ISGians find some great action in Bangkok. If you have ever had a good time in this land, copy this template and paste it with your personal answers. Hope this helps out people find exactly what they are looking for..Best girl GoGo bar: Crazy House.

Best Party Club for dancing: Levels (my kind of music).

Best Party Club for Freelancers: Insanity, Mixx for better quality (perhaps?

Best girl Freelancer Soi: Soi 4, Thermae.

Best BJ Bar: Kasalong favorite, Som's Haven for quality at certain periods of time.

Best Place for 3 Some: Eden club, Escort agencies (Bangkok Escort).

Best Happy Ending Massage Place: Not a fan of HJ's.

Best Nuru / Soapie massage place: Nataree, but it's closed now. Hardly went anywhere else that was good.

Best GF Hotel: I haven't encountered a hotel that isn't GF friendly, but close to scene would be Grande Centre point T21, cheaper would be Heaven at 4. My fav is s6 sukhumvit (because kasalong in right downstairs) but the hotel is horrible xD.

Best escort agency: Smooci is pretty good but its not an escort agency. So, best girls would be at Xclusivethai.

[ParkVille]

What's open at 3 AM in Bangkok on an early Monday morning (from Sunday night)? I hear gogos close at 2:30 AM-ish so that seems to be out of the question. Should I go to Thermae and Climax?

[Syzygies]

What's open at 3 AM in Bangkok on an early Monday morning (from Sunday night)? I hear gogos close at 2:30 AM-ish so that seems to be out of the question. Should I go to Thermae and Climax?Thermae seems to be a much earlier club these days. Last time I visited, it closed fairly early, I can't recall if that was 2 am or 3 am, but certainly before I expected. In the old days 3 am might be a good time.

There will still be freelancers on the street to some extent, especially black girls, I guess. I am far from expert about this time slot as it is a bit late for me. There are all night MPs I have heard, especially Soi 11.

Haven't you collected some girl contacts, so you could message one to meet up late?

[Syzygies]

CIM finish should be standard service provided in any bar purporting to be a BJ bar like Kasalong Bar and L0lita's for the basic rate (800 bt these days) and no extra tip required. But, in my experience at least, cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob is not commonly provided (I wish it were! Lol) but might be provided as a nice bonus by a girl who either likes you enough to do it or just routinely finishes the blowjob that way or who might do it if an additional tip is offered to get her do it.
Yes absolutely. CIM is norm in a BJ shop but swallowing is not. Experienced girls at BJ shops and Tulip will try to spit it out surreptitiously so the customer doesn't even notice. Have seen reports from ISG customer that girl swallowed where it was well known that she doesn't. Sometimes good acting.

I wonder how much extra the average girl thinks is fair for swallowing to keep the customers proud of how yummy is their juice? The girls ought to swap it to the customer so he can swallow his own. ;) Pity to waste it. LOL

[Christian G]

BJ bars. It's been implied that CIM would require a bit extra or may depend upon the girl. Is there a set price with that or is it negotiable? I've also read that it's around 1200 bhat for full service at these bars, is that 1200 total after or including the BJ, or is it a separate fee? Also, if I want a double BJ is it two girls and two pops?1. you not need to tip the girl for CIM at BJ Bars, in this places I never had problem with CIM. It's your choice to tip her or not. Price is 7/800 baht.

2. At LoIitas (and I think others BJ Bars have similar menu / prices) you have a BJ+FS on sofà behind the curtains for 1200 baht, only one pop. If you want have two or more pops you need to take room upstair for 1 HR - 1700 baht all in.

3. If you take 2 girls the price is x2.

[DwayneJohnson]

What's open at 3 AM in Bangkok on an early Monday morning (from Sunday night)? I hear gogos close at 2:30 AM-ish so that seems to be out of the question. Should I go to Thermae and Climax?Try Mixx, It used to start filling with all professional ladies around 2 am and continue till morning 5-6 am. Don't know current timing but would be your best shot.

[EihTooms]

Yes absolutely. CIM is norm in a BJ shop but swallowing is not. Experienced girls at BJ shops and Tulip will try to spit it out surreptitiously so the customer doesn't even notice. Have seen reports from ISG customer that girl swallowed where it was well known that she doesn't. Sometimes good acting.

I wonder how much extra the average girl thinks is fair for swallowing to keep the customers proud of how yummy is their juice? The girls ought to swap it to the customer so he can swallow his own. ;) Pity to waste it. LOLLogistocally speaking, there is much more opportunity for the girl to savor the feel, smell and yummy or not taste of her man's juice by holding it in her mouth, soaking her tongue long enough to spit it out into a tissue than to quickly swallow it. Even more opportunity for it if she holds it in her mouth long enough to trot into the toilet and spit it into the sink.

In both cases, the semen will not only be coating her tongue (where certain taste sensors are located) for a longer period of time than if she had simply swallowed it as it entered her mouth, but it will also slide across the surface of her tongue for a second time as she expectorates it.

Moreover, the odor of the semen held in her mouth instead of swallowed will then be drawn into her nasal passages as she inhales and that is where even more taste sensors are located. Not only that, but once the semen is spit out of the mouth whether into a tissue or the sink, its odor will permeate the space around it for all to enjoy, but most particularly the girl who just spit it out.

No doubt about it, any ladies reading this, if you really want to experience the feel, smell and taste of a man's cum for a prolonged period of time after he ejaculates into your mouth, by all means DO NOT swallow it quickly and efficiently as it comes out. You must instead hold it in your mouth and spit it into a tissue or the nearby sink instead!

[ParkVille]

Thermae seems to be a much earlier club these days. Last time I visited, it closed fairly early, I can't recall if that was 2 am or 3 am, but certainly before I expected. In the old days 3 am might be a good time.

There will still be freelancers on the street to some extent, especially black girls, I guess. I am far from expert about this time slot as it is a bit late for me. There are all night MPs I have heard, especially Soi 11.

Haven't you collected some girl contacts, so you could message one to meet up late?The TG found them:/ . So safe to say, I don't do that anymore. It's just too much hiding.

[Sum12]

Since my visit last year Nana Plaza has really gone down hill. My visit there a few days ago was to Bangkok Bunnies (ground floor), Rainbow 2 or 3 (first floor as you enter nana the first steps up to the left) and others I cannot quite remember but the quality of girls have really gone way downhill. Also too many ladboy bars and lots hanging around in the terraces. At the end I left without any company.

I went there again to Twisters (first floor) and was disappointed. Then to Rainbow 5 (first floor). Being in a group we were entering but while 3 of us were allowed in one of my friend who looks a bit Indian (unfortunately) but is not was refused as he was a little behind. We came out and said he is with us but the guy said something we had no clue. So we decided to leave. Bloody racist establishment. He is probably the one who spends the most among us. This place should seriously be boycotted.

We then headed to erotica (one and half floor- the steps upstairs after rainbow2-3) and the quality was bad but luckily I found one sweet girl called Tip and had a good GFE session with BBBJ with her at the short time hotel just above the bar. Will probably repeat with her soon.

Did not try angel witch though I have been there a long while back. Just a question, are girls there bar fine able?

[Red Kilt]

Since my visit last year Nana Plaza has really gone down hill. It's only a matter of time before this prime piece of Sukhumvit real estate becomes either a new condominium, an up-scale office block or a new 5-star hotel.

The vultures are already circling and quite low to the ground.

[SuperRaven]

Hi members.

Coming for a few weeks in April. Been a few times to bkk. I be uploading photos and reports as I go. If anyone has anything interesting they want checked out, happy to help.

Thanks Raven.

[DwayneJohnson]

Did not try angel witch though I have been there a long while back. Just a question, are girls there bar fine able?Yes, barfined meena and miss A (tiny cutie) for 700 barfine. I don't recommend either of them as both are bit clingy. Show girls are also barfined at 1100.

[Syzygies]

The TG found them:/ . So safe to say, I don't do that anymore. It's just too much hiding.I guess you mean Thai GF? If your GF is a detective type, and I have had such a girl in the past, then you need to have a separate small monger phone and SIM with high security on it (so she cannot open), and ensure very well hidden that GF never finds it. If GF is with you on same day that you go out to monger, than is probably too difficult and too much risk of being caught. If coming home from mongering to the GF, she is bound to detect something, sooner or later, even if just the scent of soap recently used for cleaning. So phones are not the only problem.

I thought about mongering only in a different country to the GF location, but was too restrictive. Next best is to not monger in same province as GF is located. So monger in BKK only when GF is not in BKK is my current plan. Also I cannot bring girls back to my normal BKK lodging due to gossip that will result and my GF does visit this place.

Fortunately my current GF is not a detective type, so she does not investigate all my belongings thoroughly.

[Syzygies]

No doubt about it, any ladies reading this, if you really want to experience the feel, smell and taste of a man's cum for a prolonged period of time after he ejaculates into your mouth, by all means DO NOT swallow it quickly and efficiently as it comes out. You must instead hold it in your mouth and spit it into a tissue or the nearby sink instead!555. Very entertaining piece of logic and a bit of irony thrown in.

Perhaps girls do don't swallow are concerned about possibility to catch something, even if that is not medically sound thinking.

In my experience of tasting something that was awful, I usually spit it out quick and lively, rather than a quick swallow. The danger of swallow, is that the stomach may reject it, and bring it back up again. I found it quite difficult to get some herbal remedy brews to go down.

[Smoothy]

Since my visit last year Nana Plaza has really gone down hill. My visit there a few days ago was to Bangkok Bunnies (ground floor), Rainbow 2 or 3 (first floor as you enter nana the first steps up to the left) and others I cannot quite remember but the quality of girls have really gone way downhill. Also too many ladboy bars and lots hanging around in the terraces. At the end I left without any company.

I went there again to Twisters (first floor) and was disappointed. Then to Rainbow 5 (first floor). Being in a group we were entering but while 3 of us were allowed in one of my friend who looks a bit Indian (unfortunately) but is not was refused as he was a little behind. We came out and said he is with us but the guy said something we had no clue. So we decided to leave. Bloody racist establishment. He is probably the one who spends the most among us. This place should seriously be boycotted.

We then headed to erotica (one and half floor- the steps upstairs after rainbow2-3) and the quality was bad but luckily I found one sweet girl called Tip and had a good GFE session with BBBJ with her at the short time hotel just above the bar. Will probably repeat with her soon.

Did not try angel witch though I have been there a long while back. Just a question, are girls there bar fine able?Obviously, you visited the wrong go-gos this trip. I have been visiting Nana for the last 20 years. I pulled some of the best talent I have ever had just a couple of weeks ago out of Nana. I didn't visit any of the gogos you mentioned other than Bangkok Bunnies. I agree that there is very little talent in Bangkok Bunnies at the moment. But there are some gogos that you did not mention that have some excellent talent right now.

[Smoothy]

It's only a matter of time before this prime piece of Sukhumvit real estate becomes either a new condominium, an up-scale office block or a new 5-star hotel.

The vultures are already circling and quite low to the ground.There is a HUGE empty lot directly on Sukhumvit on soi 6 that still has nothing built on it. It had a ton of beer bars there back in the late 90's, but has literally been barren for the last 15 years. Extremely prime real estate going to waste. I would think they will build there before they worry about a side street on soi 4 where Nana sits. Take Nana plaza out of that area and tourism will hugely suffer. I know I wouldn't stay there anymore.

[Banana Boi]

But there are some gogos that you did not mention that have some excellent talent right now.I'll be back in BKK next week. Haven't been since January. Which are the best gogos right now?

[EihTooms]

Since my visit last year Nana Plaza has really gone down hill.

SNIP

I went there again to Twisters (first floor) and was disappointed. Then to Rainbow 5 (first floor). Being in a group we were entering but while 3 of us were allowed in one of my friend who looks a bit Indian (unfortunately) but is not was refused as he was a little behind. We came out and said he is with us but the guy said something we had no clue. So we decided to leave. Bloody racist establishment. He is probably the one who spends the most among us. This place should seriously be boycotted.Are you sure those were the bars you went into? Neither one of those go-go bars is on the first floor. Unless you mean the first floor above the ground floor.

Late edit: Never mind. I see you did refer to the "first floor" as the one above the ground floor elsewhere in your post. Hmm.

[World Travel 69]

I found a Web Page with nice descriptions.

http://www.thailandredcat.com/blow-job-and-hand-job-bars-in-bangkok/

I updated the List below.


Nana Area

Wood Bar (ex-Dr. BJ Salon), Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. 5+ Girls. Prices: 800-1000BAHT. Tel: 02 651 2563. Hours: 10:30 to 2 am.
Magic Table, Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. 7-10 Girls. Prices: 1000BAHT.
L o l I t a ss Bangkok Bar, 4 Soi Sukhumvit 8. 6-10+ Girls. Prices: 800BAHT, 1200BAHT Full Short Time. Tel: +66 86 010 2272. Hours: 10 am to 1 am. http://lolitasbangkok.com/
Kasalong, Sukhumvit 6 alley/Chai Saman Alley. 10 Girls. Prices: 800BAHT. Tel: ___. Hours: 10 am to 1 am.
The Lollipop 1, 10 Sukhumvit Rd. 6+Girls. Prices: 700BAHT, 1100BAHT Full Short Time. Tel: ___ Hours: ___.
Soms Haven, 5 Sukhumvit Soi 14 Alley. 8+ Girls. Prices: 700 BAHT, 1200BAHT Full Short Time. Tel: +66 81 007 4841. Hours: Noon to 1 am.

Soi Cowboy

Toy Bar, Soi Cowboy. __ Girls. __. Prices: ___. Hours: 4 to __.
Moonshine Joint, Soi Cowboy. 4-10 Girls. Prices: 500BAHT HJ, __ BJ. Hours: 5 pm to __.
Jungle Jims, Soi Cowboy. 6-10 Girls. Prices: 500BAHT, 800BAHT, 1200BAHT Full Short Time. Hours: 5 pm to __.
Fannys, Soi Cowboy. 6-10 Girls. Prices: 500BAHT HJ, __ BJ. Hours: 5 pm to __.
Sunshine Afterskool Bar, Soi Cowboy. 6-10 Girls. Prices: 500BAHT HJ, __ BJ. Hours: 5 pm to __.

Foxzee Bar, 392/23 Sukhumvit Rd. __ Girls. Prices: ___. Hours: 5 pm to __.
B52 Bar, 22 Sukhumvit Rd., Soi 22. __ Girls. Prices: ___. Hours: __ to __.


Patpong Area

Kangaroo Club, 44 Thanon, Patpong 1. 4+ Girls. Prices: 800 BAHT, 1200 Full Short Time. Tel: 089 998 1678. Hours: 3 pm to 8 pm.
Star of Light, 68 Phat Pong 2 Alley. 7+Girls. Prices: 700 BAHT. Tel: ___. Hours: 9 am to ___.

[BloemKool]

Hello fellow ISG members,

I will be in bkk this week for a few days. Any of you guys want to grab a beer or something? I'm a Eurasia begin 30. Happy hunting.

[Plan77]

I am noticing very few freelancers on Sukhumvit Road, nana and Grace hotel. Thermae is not my cup of tea. Bier garden is closed. I am not having much luck with apps.

Where else can I find freelancers from? Paying $100 a pop or two to girls from massage shops becomes pricey after a while.

Any suggestions gentlemen?

[Sunlover2]

I am noticing very few freelancers on Sukhumvit Road, nana and Grace hotel. Thermae is not my cup of tea. Bier garden is closed. I am not having much luck with apps.

Where else can I find freelancers from? Paying $100 a pop or two to girls from massage shops becomes pricey after a while.

Any suggestions gentlemen?What time of day are you looking? During the day lower Suk is going to be slow for sure. The (relatively) better selection starts after dark. Thursday thru Saturday also draws a bigger SW/FL crowd.

If you do a sweep and don't see anything that appeals grab a beer or something to eat and try again in an hour or so. Or take a ring side seat at Hooters or Stumble Inn and observe the comings and goings. The better one's tend to draw attention right away so be prepared to pounce.

SL.

[Uncle Volodya]

I am noticing very few freelancers on Sukhumvit Road, nana and Grace hotel. Thermae is not my cup of tea. Bier garden is closed. I am not having much luck with apps.

Where else can I find freelancers from? Paying $100 a pop or two to girls from massage shops becomes pricey after a while.

Any suggestions gentlemen?Try the Discos: Climax, Levels, Insanity, Mixx, and Oskar (a bit more subtle).

[Aviator12]

I'll be back in BKK next week. Haven't been since January. Which are the best gogos right now?It is a matter of taste, mood and time of week, but these ones are quite good; Billboard (Nana), Rainbow 5 (Nana), King Castle 1 (Patpong).

Shark and Dollhouse (Cowboy). Crazy House if you like crazy and Sexy Nights or Angelwitch (Nana) if you like rock music. Good hunting!

[BionicMan]

I am noticing very few freelancers on Sukhumvit Road, nana and Grace hotel. Thermae is not my cup of tea. Bier garden is closed.Beer garden in soi 7 closed? Since when?

[Banana Boi]

It is a matter of taste, mood and time of week, but these ones are quite good; Billboard (Nana), Rainbow 5 (Nana), King Castle 1 (Patpong).

Shark and Dollhouse (Cowboy). Crazy House if you like crazy and Sexy Nights or Angelwitch (Nana) if you like rock music. Good hunting!Rainbow 5 and Billboard (that's the one with the carousel, right?) are my 2 favorites in Nana so I will trust your list and check out Shark and Dollhouse in Cowboy. I hope Dollhouse is way better than the one in Pattaya since it's one of my least favorite gogo clubs. Still haven't been to Patpong mainly because BKK traffic sucks so bad.

[Allover]

Rainbow 5 and Billboard (that's the one with the carousel, right?) are my 2 favorites in Nana so I will trust your list and check out Shark and Dollhouse in Cowboy. I hope Dollhouse is way better than the one in Pattaya since it's one of my least favorite gogo clubs. Still haven't been to Patpong mainly because BKK traffic sucks so bad.Banana Boi, you have never been to Patpong ever or just this trip? I assume you mean this trip. The BTS and MRT both get you there easily. The problem is getting back to the Sukhumvit area since the BTS and MRT shut down at about midnight. I would be interested in your take on Patpong.

BionicMan, the soi 7 Beer Garten is closed for renovations. When it will actually reopen is anybody's guess.

[Goatscrot]

Beer garden in soi 7 closed? Since when?It's not closed yet. Will be in the not to distant future though. They say for renovation, but who knows.

[Red Kilt]

BionicMan, the soi 7 Beer Garten is closed for renovations. When it will actually reopen is anybody's guess.Allover is repeating what he thinks he read on a post without actually knowing if it is fake news or not.

Biergarten is open and alive, but not very well.

It is (apparently) going to close for renovations sometime but, if it's anything like the Philippines, saying "Closed for renovations" actually means "Closed for good and re-opening in some other form".

[Christian G]

Still haven't been to Patpong mainly because BKK traffic sucks so bad.Take the BTS from Nana or Asok Station to Sala Daeng Station, easy to reach Patpong. If you want come back after midnight just take taxi, there should not be too much traffic at night.

[Solo Traveler]

Did not try angel witch though I have been there a long while back. Just a question, are girls there bar fine able?Yes, they can be bar-fined.

In Angel Witchbar, bar fine is 700, short time is around 2500.

In Nana Plaza, all bar women can be bar-fined.

The ones that cannot be bar-fined (push you into buying expensive drinks but refuse to go out with you) are in Soi Cowboy.

So, in some way, Nana Plaza is more straightforward than Soi Cowboy.

But Nana Plaza stinks, smelling like a mixture of alcohol, sweat, and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), which is a drawback.

And regarding being rejected by the door men or working women because you're of or not of certain ethnicity, it is no news in Bangkok.

[TommySnap]

Hi.

Dropping into BKK for a few days this month and my "GF" has just been to see 50 Shades Darker and wants to try some love beads. After a bit of googling I have discovered that sex toys are illegal in LOS but that some of the market stalls around Nana / Nana end of Sukumvit may sell them on the quiet.

Anyone got any tips?

T.

[EihTooms]

Take the BTS from Nana or Asok Station to Sala Daeng Station, easy to reach Patpong. If you want come back after midnight just take taxi, there should not be too much traffic at night.Yes, and if you are already at Asok and Sukhumvit Rd. (Terminal 21), you might as well just take the MRT Subway to the Silom Station, which is where the MRT Subway intersects with the BTS Skytrain at its Sala Daeng Station. The advantage in taking the MRT Subway from Asok (MRT Sukhumvit Station) is you don't have to transfer from one train line to another train line in order to get to the Patpong area as you do with the BTS Skytrain at the Siam Station.

But, as you pointed out with the BTS Skytrain, the MRT Subway also shuts down at Midnight. Well, actually, you can often still catch the last BTS and MRT trains passing through this area as late as 12:15 AM. Bear in mind the "last" trains going in each direction depart from the line's furthest departure points at Midnight and this area is mostly in the middle of the various routes. So it is often possible to still see and board trains stopping and then passing through the Nana/Asok/Sukhumvit Stations a bit after Midnight.

[Allover]

Allover is repeating what he thinks he read on a post without actually knowing if it is fake news or not.

Biergarten is open and alive, but not very well.

It is (apparently) going to close for renovations sometime but, if it's anything like the Philippines, saying "Closed for renovations" actually means "Closed for good and re-opening in some other form".You are correct. I assumed Plan 77 accurately reported the Garden was now closed. The Garden has few fans here but I am one of them. I've had some excellent sessions from girls out of there over the years including my last trip. I know the quantity and quality of girls there is getting worse and worse but I'm hopeful there is a renovation and the crowds start coming back. Doubtful I know but I am hoping.

[RacShack]

Hi.

Dropping into BKK for a few days this month and my "GF" has just been to see 50 Shades Darker and wants to try some love beads. After a bit of googling I have discovered that sex toys are illegal in LOS but that some of the market stalls around Nana / Nana end of Sukumvit may sell them on the quiet.

Anyone got any tips?

T.Not so much on the quiet, their laying all over stalls, tables you no problem finding what you looking for.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hi.

Dropping into BKK for a few days this month and my "GF" has just been to see 50 Shades Darker and wants to try some love beads. After a bit of googling I have discovered that sex toys are illegal in LOS but that some of the market stalls around Nana / Nana end of Sukumvit may sell them on the quiet.

Anyone got any tips?

T.Lot's of this stuff was sold at the roadside stalls on Sukhumvit Road, before the Police closed them and put concrtete blocks and plants in their place to keep them away. I'm not sure where they have gone now (or perhaps they are back already).

Anyhow, this stuff was all cheap Chinese knock-offs of the originals and I wouldn't advise anyone to put these stuff inside anyone. Who knows what ugly chemicals they might release inside you?

[Plan77]

You are correct. I assumed Plan 77 accurately reported the Garden was now closed. The Garden has few fans here but I am one of them. I've had some excellent sessions from girls out of there over the years including my last trip. I know the quantity and quality of girls there is getting worse and worse but I'm hopeful there is a renovation and the crowds start coming back. Doubtful I know but I am hoping.I can confirm that BG is still open. Although quality is not that good, once in a while one can find a decent amateur here specially during the day which one can bring back to hotel.

[Smoothy]

And regarding being rejected by the door men or working women because you're of or not of certain ethnicity, it is no news in Bangkok.I used to wonder why they rejected those guys. But one business trip to Bangkok, I was working with a Pakistani guy who was in Bangkok for the first time. This guy had a high paying job, so he could easily afford the entertainment in Bangkok. He told me he had gone to Nana and couldn't get into the bars because they told him they were "members only". He asked me if I would escort him into those bars because they would accept him if he was with a white guy. So we went the next night. We walked into Rainbow 4 (at the time that was the hot gogo in Nana). We were seated by the waitress and she asked us what we wanted to drink. I asked for a whiskey cola and the Pakistani guy tells the waitress he's not thirsty and doesn't want a drink. She tells him he has to order a drink to stay in there. He says "why? My friend here has a drink and I am with him. ". The waitress again tells him he needs to buy a drink and he refuses. I tell the guy that he's taking up a seat that a paying customer could be sitting in. If the place let everyone in for free, they wouldn't make any money and would have to close, he's sitting there watching naked girls, the least he can do is buy a drink for 150 baht. But he refused. At that point, I bought a drink for the cheap ass. And never went out with him again.

[XRatedBangkok]

Hi lads,

Did anyone here already barfined girl #80 named Nam Dtaan at Crazy House? You cannot miss her, she is the one with the biggest gigantic silicone boobs. I paid her a drink and she doesn't like to be touched, so I hesitate over barfining her: I do not like to pay for a starfish. Worth it or not?

[Sum12]

I had completely forgotten about billboard in Nana top floor on the left side when you enter the nana plaza. I had been there a few times in my previous visits and thank to some posts below and a search on best go gos in Nana, I was left with two choices either Angel witch or Billboard.

Having on luck in my previous visits to other go gos, and wanting a quick session I decided to go to billboard and I surely made the right choice.

Billboard is the best go go in Nana, no doubt. It was packed with both ladies and customers and the place was lively. I took a drink scanned around for a while. I had my eyes on no21 and was just about to call her over when a cutie came and tried to get my attention. She got it and I called her over. I don't know her number but her name was Bell from Isaan. She sat on me, swayed around my lap, made me fell her amazing just right tits and soon I was rock hard. One drink for me and her and a bar fine of 700 and I took her to the st hotel on the same floor. No BJ at all, no DFK but she was looking gorgeous. An extremely short session followed as I could not last hearing her moans and the sight of her beautiful face, I paid her 2500 plus a 100 tip. She even gave me her number to call and add her in Line. I don't use Line and I don't like repeats except when the service is mind blowing so once back to hotel I deleted it so as not to be tempted. But I will definitely return to Billboard for other cuties soon and hope she does not spot me.

[Smoothy]

Billboard is the best go go in Nana.I agree. It's still nowhere near as good as it was in the early 2000's when it was called Hollywood. The lesbian show they had there back then was absolutely awesome! I still remember watching 12 girls on that round rotating stage coupled up into 6 pairs in a circle and they would do things like putting holding a dildo in their mouth while inserting it into the other girl's ass. Absolutely great entertainment back then. You don't see anything like that in nana anymore. But Billboard is the best gogo in nana now without a doubt.

[Member #4591]

Banana Boi, you have never been to Patpong ever or just this trip? I assume you mean this trip. The BTS and MRT both get you there easily. The problem is getting back to the Sukhumvit area since the BTS and MRT shut down at about midnight. I would be interested in your take on Patpong.

BionicMan, the soi 7 Beer Garten is closed for renovations. When it will actually reopen is anybody's guess.Do you know this for a fact? Were you there to see they were closed? Or just unconfirmed word of mouth? I ask because I was just there for a few beers with a friend 3 days ago. As for the talent in the late afternoon, all over 40's and old guys. It may get younger and better as the night goes on but it is for sure on the decline.

[Goatscrot]

Do you know this for a fact? Were you there to see they were closed? Or just unconfirmed word of mouth? I ask because I was just there for a few beers with a friend 3 days ago. As for the talent in the late afternoon, all over 40's and old guys. It may get younger and better as the night goes on but it is for sure on the decline.It's not closed. I was there last night. Rumor is they will close around or right after Songkhran.

[Zen415]

I will be joined for a week by a girlfriend from Vietnam while I'm in BKK. We want to play with another couple (either meet a couple online or go to a swingers club / party).

We've done this when she visited me here in San Francisco but I haven't read any reports or reviews on any thread on this forum.

Are there any clubs or parties in BKK? Or perhaps a website? I see that Craigslist has a fair amount of couples looking for another couples or singles. Perhaps that's the main site for this kind of thing here in Thailand?

I imagine it'll be hard to find a single girl (non-business). We're mostly into playing with another couple but would like to play with a girl or set up a gangbang with a few extra guys for her. Any advice?

Thanks!

[Solo Traveler]

No BJ at all, no DFK but she was looking gorgeous.Can't understand how the session is mind-blowing.

This is bad service, according to universal punting standard.

Better to quit the session if the working woman can't even do BJ properly.

[FormulaOneFan]

Landed late Thurs evening and got to hotel at 1 am. Was tired but looking to get some action and a few beers, so I hit crazy house even though it was late.

Had a couple of beers and took in the show. Ended up barfining #86. Cute face, bee cups, with braces. She wanted some food so we shopped some street food; I expected her to ask me to pay, but she insisted on paying. At my hotel she was playful and it was a decent st session. She did ask for a tip but wasnt pushy. Decent first night.

[FormulaOneFan]

Slept until noon as I was wiped after 24 hrs in transit. Decided to hit a BJ bar early in the trip as I'm usually not a BJ finisher. Went to som's Haven since it was near my hotel. About six girls working and started chatting with one that suited my tastes. Bought her a beer and one for me and we relaxed on the couches for a bit. Headed upstairs with her. Rooms are a bit run down, but serviceable; she was aiming to please and took direction well. I wanted slow with ball licking, then speed it up, and she was a great performer. She sucked me dry and kept going, sucking it all down, all swallow no spit.

Next up after a rest was club 102 - must have been 30-40 girls working at 8 pm. Picked one that suited my tastes and we went to the room. Nice room, big albeit hard bed. She actually gave a decent oil massage and then a serviceable but a bit toothy BBBJ. Cap on and sex in several positions. She seemed to enjoy it and had a good finish. Followed up with a Thai style massage to close out the time.

Wandered to Nana plaza for a nite cap and hit billboard after wandering into and out of a few other bars. Nothing caught my fancy so I headed back to hotel near soi cowboy to rest and decide what to do. Was still wiped so ended up calling it early and not ordering in or hitting soi cowboy.

Don't recall prices for either, but we're in line with what I expected.

[FormulaOneFan]

Chrome bar was next up since I wanted to get my Nuru fix; not the best Nuru BTW, had much better in Korea. About ten girls working and picked a lean tan skinned girl with a pretty smile and bee cups. Room was like a bathroom, not all that inviting. Performance was good, but not great. Shower, slippy massage, followed by HJ / BJ and then doggy to finish.

2000 bht.

[Solo Traveler]

I tell the guy that he's taking up a seat that a paying customer could be sitting in. If the place let everyone in for free, they wouldn't make any money and would have to close, he's sitting there watching naked girls, the least he can do is buy a drink for 150 baht. But he refused. At that point, I bought a drink for the cheap ass. And never went out with him again.Well, I'm not trying to make any broad generalizations, but it seems that haggling over the price of everything and being extremely frugal is a culture of some countries.

So, basically, the bars are being temporarily racist, trying to filter out customers who tend to contribute little or none profit to the venues.

I'm not saying this is a right thing for the bars to do, but this theory may give our South Asian members a tip, next time you want to enter a gogo bar, better act generously, bribe the door man with a 500 Thai Baht banknote, treat the waitresses and working women some drinks, and let out a few 20 Thai Baht banknotes as tips also helps, I suppose this will make you the male version of the belle of the ball.

The above is the solution for South Asian members trying to get into a gogo bar or nightclub.

However, there's no proper answer to my being rejected by Russian / Uzbekistan women in the coffee shop in Grace Hotel Soi 3.

Like other members who are White Caucasians have said, they got ignored purposely by the Thai freelancers in Thermae coffee shop.

The East Asian version in Grace Hotel coffee shop occurred to me.

I offer those Russian / Uzbekistan women 3500 for a quick Short Time, which is way higher than what other Middle Easterners paid (around 2000), but still got ignored and rejected purposely.

They are being racist against East Asian for no reasons, which is even more ridiculous than the gogo bars.

[Christian G]

Are there any clubs or parties in BKK? Or perhaps a website? I see that Craigslist has a fair amount of couples looking for another couples or singles. Perhaps that's the main site for this kind of thing here in Thailand?I never heard about swinger club / party in Bangkok, I think Craiglist could be the best option.


set up a gangbang with a few extra guys for her. Any advice?If your GF is nice and sexy I think you will find alot men for give her a gangbang. You could post ad on Craiglist with her pics or you could ask members here to join you and your GF. Maybe you can start posting some of her pics here and tell us which days you will in Bangkok.

[Pita123]

I will be joined for a week by a girlfriend from Vietnam while I'm in BKK. We want to play with another couple (either meet a couple online or go to a swingers club / party).

We've done this when she visited me here in San Francisco but I haven't read any reports or reviews on any thread on this forum.

Are there any clubs or parties in BKK? Or perhaps a website? I see that Craigslist has a fair amount of couples looking for another couples or singles. Perhaps that's the main site for this kind of thing here in Thailand?

I imagine it'll be hard to find a single girl (non-business). We're mostly into playing with another couple but would like to play with a girl or set up a gangbang with a few extra guys for her. Any advice?

Thanks!Your best bet is finding someone on Adult Friend Finder. I used that a number of years ago and found some folks that had swingers parties in Patts and then they arranged a special get together for us in BKK. They were a bit too public in their advertising and eventually were busted. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/feb/05/thailand-swingers-charges.

[Zen415]

I never heard about swinger club / party in Bangkok, I think Craiglist could be the best option.

If your GF is nice and sexy I think you will find alot men for give her a gangbang. You could post ad on Craiglist with her pics or you could ask members here to join you and your GF. Maybe you can start posting some of her pics here and tell us which days you will in Bangkok.Thanks! Our #1 preference is swinging with a couple or two, so we'll try CL first and see.

[Zen415]

Your best bet is finding someone on Adult Friend Finder. I used that a number of years ago and found some folks that had swingers parties in Patts and then they arranged a special get together for us in BKK. They were a bit too public in their advertising and eventually were busted. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/feb/05/thailand-swingers-charges.Thank you. Wow! It's crazy that swingers clubs and parties are illegal in a country that seems to be very sexually liberated.

[Antex]

Thank you. Wow! It's crazy that swingers clubs and parties are illegal in a country that seems to be very sexually liberated.Only problem is that Thailand is not a sexually liberated land.

Just because the girls need money doesn't mean they are sexually liberated.

[Smoothy]

So, basically, the bars are being temporarily racist, trying to filter out customers who tend to contribute little or none profit to the venues.

I'm not saying this is a right thing for the bars to do, but this theory may give our South Asian members a tip, next time you want to enter a gogo bar, better act generously, bribe the door man with a 500 Thai Baht banknote, treat the waitresses and working women some drinks, and let out a few 20 Thai Baht banknotes as tips also helps, I suppose this will make you the male version of the belle of the ball.

The above is the solution for South Asian members trying to get into a gogo bar or nightclub.That would help, but talking with the girls, those guys also have a reputation for bar fining the girls then having 10 other guys waiting in the room to gang bang the girl. It's not just that they are cheap. There are multiple reasons they ban those guys.

[Goatscrot]

Only problem is that Thailand is not a sexually liberated land.

Just because the girls need money doesn't mean they are sexually liberated.Oh, that is so true. Thais are quite conservative when it comes to sex.

[DwayneJohnson]

Well, I'm not trying to make any broad generalizations, but it seems that haggling over the price of everything and being extremely frugal is a culture of some countries.

So, basically, the bars are being temporarily racist, trying to filter out customers who tend to contribute little or none profit to the venues.

I'm not saying this is a right thing for the bars to do, but this theory may give our South Asian members a tip, next time you want to enter a gogo bar, better act generously, bribe the door man with a 500 Thai Baht banknote, treat the waitresses and working women some drinks, and let out a few 20 Thai Baht banknotes as tips also helps, I suppose this will make you the male version of the belle of the ball.

The above is the solution for South Asian members trying to get into a gogo bar or nightclub.

However, there's no proper answer to my being rejected by Russian / Uzbekistan women in the coffee shop in Grace Hotel Soi 3.

Like other members who are White Caucasians have said, they got ignored purposely by the Thai freelancers in Thermae coffee shop.

The East Asian version in Grace Hotel coffee shop occurred to me.

I offer those Russian / Uzbekistan women 3500 for a quick Short Time, which is way higher than what other Middle Easterners paid (around 2000), but still got ignored and rejected purposely.

They are being racist against East Asian for no reasons, which is even more ridiculous than the gogo bars.CIS ladies might be worried about you being undercover BIB. Most of them are told by their pimps, handlers or BF to stay clear of locals. I don't think they are racist as most of their clientele is Indians and Arabs.

[PinkPearl]

Only problem is that Thailand is not a sexually liberated land.

Just because the girls need money doesn't mean they are sexually liberated.What do understand by the words "sexually liberated"?

Are Thai wives not more tolerant of their husbands having a second wife (mia noi) or being entertained by sex providers than Western wives?

Is the sex business in Thailand not much more open & tolerated than it is in, say, the USA, Canada, Vietnam or England?

Don't many parents of Thai children knowingly allow, approve or even encourage their children to enter the sex trade?

In Canada since a few years ago paying for sex is outlawed, so I am not allowed to do it anywhere, at least not in this particular universe, as long as I remain under Canadian law, or a citizen of Canada. Fortunately LE, in certain Canadian cities, are not interested in enforcing this law when it involves consenting adults.

Strangely, while buying sex is illegal in Canada, selling it is not.

Consequently, due to LOS being more legally sexually liberated than Canada, even more Canadians than ever may be visiting Siam.

[Syzygies]

Thank you. Wow! It's crazy that swingers clubs and parties are illegal in a country that seems to be very sexually liberated.I agree that Thailand is not so liberated. Anything can happen in private secretly behind closed doors, but not much in public. The new Thai government is particularly tough, trying to improve Thailand's reputation as premium place for hookers. Of course their are countries far more puritanical and "bible bashing".

Years ago SOL in Patpong allowing fucking in the public bar but I don't believe they would allow it any more. Fear of Police raids. Thailand would never have Sex stores with full range of porn and sex toys like in Germany.

There is a big double standard in Thailand. Wives are expected to be faithful and obedient but the Thai men can play up as much as they like. So the Swinging concept would not work for Thais, I think. The Thai men only want young single girls with no baby, no so much some old woman that is someone else's wife. In particular the Thai man cannot have his wife swinging with someone else.

Thailand is definitely not an open minded country like Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Holland, Czech, Hungary, etc.

Yes Thailand has sex parties, of sorts. Several guys go to a Soapy MP, and they select a set of girls, and go to special large VIP suite for partying. I have not actually been to such a party but they do happen. Soapy girls did tell me about them, but I wasn't curious enough to ask a lot of questions.

I make my own parties with several Thai girls (well up to 3 anyway), but have never needed other guys to help so far.

The main concept of Swingers clubs, is usually for older couples bored with normal sex lives, to get to fuck around at very low cost. i.e. girls I would not pay to fuck.

[Terwagne]

Can you tell us the names of the girls you met? And maybe say something about them? This will help our planning.


Slept until noon as I was wiped after 24 hrs in transit. Decided to hit a BJ bar early in the trip as I'm usually not a BJ finisher. Went to som's Haven since it was near my hotel. About six girls working and started chatting with one that suited my tastes. Bought her a beer and one for me and we relaxed on the couches for a bit. Headed upstairs with her. Rooms are a bit run down, but serviceable; she was aiming to please and took direction well. I wanted slow with ball licking, then speed it up, and she was a great performer. She sucked me dry and kept going, sucking it all down, all swallow no spit.

Next up after a rest was club 102 - must have been 30-40 girls working at 8 pm. Picked one that suited my tastes and we went to the room. Nice room, big albeit hard bed. She actually gave a decent oil massage and then a serviceable but a bit toothy BBBJ. Cap on and sex in several positions. She seemed to enjoy it and had a good finish. Followed up with a Thai style massage to close out the time.

Wandered to Nana plaza for a nite cap and hit billboard after wandering into and out of a few other bars. Nothing caught my fancy so I headed back to hotel near soi cowboy to rest and decide what to do. Was still wiped so ended up calling it early and not ordering in or hitting soi cowboy.

Don't recall prices for either, but we're in line with what I expected.

[FormulaOneFan]

After a few beers and some recovery time, I thought it was time to hit a soapie. You can sense a trend here; my first longer trip to BKK (was here for 40 hrs in Sept, didn't have time to explore) and I'm checking off the boxes I read about here and other places. It was about 7 pm and I thought about going to The Lord, but decided upon Emmanelle for no particular reason other than it had been mentioned, and it was one of the first I recognized by name after getting off the MRT. Decent and large lineup. Immediately I was given a menu card with the girl classes and prices. No surprise there and a pretty broad range in price. I'm not sure if there was a farang markup or not, but the prices weren't a surprise. Since I'm not on a tight budget, I didn't let the price be my guide, but rather chose a girl based on looks and my tastes. I chose an SM class girl. SM53 (5300 thb) if I remember right. Pretty face, natural see cups, nice smile. We went up to a nicely appointed room and had a little chit-chat while her stuff was brought up. She did have a bit of a tummy that was masked by her outfit, but nothing to make the experience a negative one. The rest of her body was nicely shaped and fit. Started with a nice soak / scrub / rub in the tub with lots of playful back and forth, then onto the bed. Service was good, but not stellar. Biggest ding was that the BJ was covered; not a deal breaker, but generally a bit of a mood killer. After than she was very playful, DATY, some light kissing (no DFK), and multiple positions. Overall a good experience and I plan to try at least 1 or 2 more before I leave.

Rode the MRT back to Asok area and grabbed some food and had some downtime before decided my next step. Headed to Soi Cowboy at about 1030 pm and meandered between Baccarat and Crazy House for an hour or so. Both were super packed but there was some decent eye candy on offer, but it was too packed to make it a great experience. Decided to take a stroll up the road and check out Thermae for the experience of it. By this time its nearly midnite. Wandered in and it was also a madhouse. I will say the experience is a bit surreal with the ladies lined up around the inner bar and outer tables like dishes at a buffet. Saw a couple of girls that caught my eye but both of them were in discussions with a punter who got there before me. Had a few backups but wasn't ready to commit (bad idea, but it worked out). Had one drink then decided to head back to Soi Cowboy to see how things were shaking there a bit later. Crazy House had calmed down a bit, and Baccarat was still crowded, but they had closed the third floor, so less people for sure. Unfotuntely the 2 girls at CH that I had seen and was considering were both gone. Had a couple of drinks and bounced between the two clubs for another hour. Poking my head into a few other gogos just to see what the lineups looked like (mostly meh) and next thing I knew it was 130 am and I was getting a bit tired having gotten up somewhat early for a mongering trip (9 am). Decided to see what was on offer from Smooci before making a decision at either CH or Baccarat. Saw that Yuko was available (she's been mentioned a few times lately in the smooci thread), so I booked her for 1 HR. Was a good decision. As has been mentioned, she's better looking than her pictures, and while she seemed a bit tired, she was a sweetheart and very energetic in bed. Good playfulness to start, mutual shower, good BBBJ, and she was very open to options during FS. As it was late and I'd shot twice already, it took a bit to finish things up, but she never complained or was pushing me to finish. Used up nearly the entire hour and sent her on her way. Gave her a tip, so 3500 thb all in.

Overall a good third day / night.

[FormulaOneFan]

Can you tell us the names of the girls you met? And maybe say something about them? This will help our planning.I really wish I could, but I am TERRIBLE with names. Add in that half the time I can barely understand their english with their accents! I have the same problem when I go to FKKs in Germany. There are some girls I've sessioned with 3-4 times and I still forget their names. I have this problem outside of mongering as well.

Sorry.

[Kurre]

I had one night for myself in Bangkok last week. I had booked an afternoon session at Tulip with three ladies and it was every bit as good as expected. After a foot massage and a dinner, I hit Soi Cowboy. I ended up watching couple of shows at Susie Wong. The dancer lineup before the shows had two potentially bar finable girls but nothing spectacular.

I went to Baccara and the lineup looked a lot better. A cute spinner on the stage caught my eye. I took note of her number and went to make the rounds. I ignored the requests to sit down and checked out all three levels before returning downstairs. Number 46, if my memory serves me right, had gotten off the stage and I asked her to join me for a drink. After not too much small talk she asked if I wanted to bar fine her. The prices quoted were 3 k for one hour and 5 k for 4 hours. I asked about BBBJ and got a negative answer. I finished my drink and left without her.

After wandering around Soi Cowboy for a while I decided to check out the lineup at Annies. At 10.55 pm there were about 10 girls of which number 69 was only one that appealed to me. As I already had sessioned with her couple of times back in 2013, I decided to pass. I took a taxi to Tulip and had another great session with four ladies.

[FormulaOneFan]

Decided to take the early afternoon and be a tourist. Took a tour of the Grand Palace, it was fun (but nobody cares here).

Next up on the checklist was Club Eden. Meant to do it earlier in the trip as I generally can't finish multiple times in 90-120 mins, but when I popped in there a couple of days ago, the lineup was pretty meh. Decided to give it another shot today. Walked in, sat at the bar and the lineup was better than the other day, and the process was as described. Girls that are A+ to the left, others to the right. I'm not an A+ guy generally, but I let my eyes do the selecting for the first girl, and she happened to be an A+ girl. As has been advised, I let her pick girl #2, and lucky for me she chose my second choice as our play partner. Headed to the room and started with a smoke and chitchat (neither spoke much english), and then a shower. Good mutual touching / rubbing in the shower with girl #1 and then onto the bed. While girl #2 showered, girl #1 started off with a ball / shaft massage and rubbed flavored lotion all over. When girl #2 was ready girl #1 proceeded to give me a rimjob while #2 gave me a very nice BBBJ. Girl #1 took over on the BBBJ and girl #2 proceeded to give me a cat bath while I fingered her. Shifted to DATY on #1 while #2 played with my balls, and then FS with #1. #2 still playing with my balls and rubbing me all over. Finished with #1 after a couple of positions and they cleaned me up and gave me a short 'massage'. For round #2 they started with a lesbian show - #1 had a strap on and started by performing DATY on #2 - I then joined in on the DATY on #1. #2 then proceeded to fuck #1 with the strap on, and then cap went on and I took over. Went for multiple positions and finished in doggy with #1 fondling my balls and anus while I pumped #2. Shower and a smoke and we ended right at 90 mins.

#1 had nice natural see cups and a pretty face and wasn't a 'big' girl, but not the usual tiny girls I go for. She had a pretty face and nice smile and that's why I chose her.

#2 was more petite with lightened hair and bolt-ONS (couldn't tell when dressed) - I'm not usually into fake boobs and hers weren't that good (hard with some scars), but she more than made up for it with her performance.

Again - sorry no names as I'm terrible with them!

Overall I'd put both girls in the solid 6-7 range. Definitely not stunners as Syz would say (in the FKK forums), but they were enthusiastic, open to whatever I wanted to do, and it was a good time overall.

Damage was 4600 thb (I got a water). Not sure I'll repeat this trip, but I'm glad I gave it a try. I've had several other 3-somes in FKKs, but this one was probably the most 'playful' and free of the usual 'upselling' you get in the FKK clubs. Lesbian show is extra, kissing is extra, DATY is extra, etc.

[SexInStl]

Actually, I was talking about the part if your post suggesting that cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob was common practice at Kasalong Bar. But now you seem to be reporting that mere CIM was not provided in your first couple of visits to Kasalong Bar and L0lita's but was eventually provided by a girl you saw a few times at Kasalong Bar. And that was provided as an "extra" bonus, possibly because you saw her a few times or tipped her an extra 100 bt. Is that about right? Maybe I misunderstood.

CIM finish should be standard service provided in any bar purporting to be a BJ bar like Kasalong Bar and L0lita's for the basic rate (800 bt these days) and no extra tip required. But, in my experience at least, cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob is not commonly provided (I wish it were! Lol) but might be provided as a nice bonus by a girl who either likes you enough to do it or just routinely finishes the blowjob that way or who might do it if an additional tip is offered to get her do it.

Perhaps there is a language difference or definition confusion here; Cum in Mouth (CIM) is not the same thing as cum swallowing.Yes, that is what happened.

[FormulaOneFan]

Had a couple of beers and some dinner and gave some thought to the evenings itinerary; considered another soapy place, but was concerned it was getting too late and I'd feel rushed to get there, make a choice, etc (it was getting on 10 pm). I decided to stick near Asok and since I was already headed towards Nana I would stop into Thermae again and see if it was less crazy than last time. And to check off taking a freelancer back to my room (another box). I arrived and it was definitely heavier on girls and lighter on guys than last time I came by; got a drink and surveyed the field. A couple of girls caught my eye, but I got the impression they were shopping for japanese or non-farang customers. Most gave the quick look-away or would not make eye contact. It was still early and I felt like some music and a few more drinks, so instead of making a choice I headed back to Crazy House for some naked dancers and a drink or two more, knowing that there would be options remaining if I wanted to come back.

CH first floor was packed so I headed to second floor- second floor was definitely second tier on the talent, but I did find one girl who was close to my spec and very friendly (aren't they all), so I spent some time with her on the couch and bought her a ladydrink. Was temped to barfine her, but had some hesitation and wanted to keep my options open. Still early, only 11 pm. Went back downstairs and spotted 3 girls that really interested me - #144 and #164 and one I didn't see the # for. The unknown number was barfined almost immediately after I got down there; oh well. Was going to have the mamasan call over one of the other 2 when the stage shift changed and both girls headed to the laps of other waiting guys (I was on the other side of the stage); again, oh well. I did another lap around the club and decided to head back to Thermae (so nice that things are so close together!) and re-check the scene.

Back at Thermae, still a lot of decent talent there. The girls from earlier were gone, so that made things easier actually. Less buyer's remorse that I didn't choose the one I really wanted. Got a drink and did a couple of laps to re-check the talent pool. One particular girl kept catching my eye as I wandered around with my drink. I went for a smoke and when I came back, another guy was chatting her up, but it was clear she wasn't that interested, and kept making eye contact with me. I got another drink and went over to the general vicinity; she shed the other guy and I went over to talk to her. Cute face, very nice lean body with ample sized chest (hard to tell exact size due to her outfit. Jean shorts and what looked somewhat like a sports Jersey), and slender legs. We agreed to ST for 2500 bht (I don't like to haggle and it seemed reasonable; probably could have talked her down to 2000), and we headed out. Short walk back to my hotel (I offered to cab it, she said she'd walk it) for some waters and light small talk. Action started with showers (not mutual, no wet foreplay) and then onto the main event. Oh, and her nice chest ended up being dee sized bolt-ONS, but nicely done ones; not too hard, but still I prefer smaller naturals. She gave a very nice slow BBBJ with good ball action and my hands were allowed to roam as I wanted. I didn't initiate DATY so I don't know if that was on of off the menu. Switched to sex with her on top first with her riding me nice and slow at first, and then harder. Switched to missionary where I switched it up back to slow. About 2 mins in she gasped and got very wet; she says she came and I believe her. Not the usual "oh baby I just came" fake acting you see right as you're coming to make you feel like a stud, but an honest almost surprised reaction early on in the action so I believe it was legit. Anyway when I can I prefer to finish in missionary, chair, or modified chair if I'm with a girl whose face or breast / body I really like. If they have an incredible ass, then doggie is preferred. Anyway. After she got wet it made my job a bit harder as she went from incredibly tight, to tight but a bit slippery. I made the best of it and had a fantastic finish. She was enjoying the chair position as well, and at the end she thanked me for the sex (not the money).

Not the most GFE experience as kissing was limited. Light kissing but I really didn't push things; I bet after her orgasm I could have induced DFK, but by that time I was past needing it to get the experience I needed, so I didn't force things. She was a sweet lady, and I try treat the ladies as nicely as I can. She showered and I sent her on her way.

All in 3000 thb (I tipped her 500 mostly because I didn't have change).

I walked her out because I wanted a smoke, and I considered my options. It was 1 am at this point. Soi would still be going but slowing down, Thermae was closed, etc. Smooci was always an option as was heading to one of the later clubs. I took an assessment of things and decided to call it a night after a successful checking off of two boxes from my 'list' and rest up for Monday.

I was hoping to hit up MITU but I guess they are closed until Tuesday. Not sure if all sites are closed or just the wet massage location, but their website doesn't list lineups until Tuesday. Thats my last day in town so I'll likely head there then. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

[AquaDreams]

I was hoping to hit up MITU but I guess they are closed until Tuesday. Not sure if all sites are closed or just the wet massage location, but their website doesn't list lineups until Tuesday. Thats my last day in town so I'll likely head there then. We'll see what tomorrow brings.FWIW, here is my take on MITU. Management there recommended Pan, because I had requested a lady with long nipples. Pan's photos kind of knocked me out, looked like a girl next door type but one who likes to do the dirty deed. Anyway, I arrived and waited for Pan. Turns out she's only 4'-11" ha ha, OK, no problem, I had always wanted to fuck an extra petite one, she was really cute. So, upstairs a few flights of stairs, nice big room, she started the tub and set out the inflatable mattress for the nuru experience. 3700 THB for 70 minutes. I'll keep it brief. Pan is chubby, dress hides it well. She is a total sweetheart and I had fun with her. Pan makes dainty noises like you'd hear in Japanese porn. DFK good, rimming good, BBBJ good, my first nuru experience, it feels great when the hot goo is being poured over you. B2 BS are over-rated IMO. Sex was good too. Bottom line at MITU: the filling of tub, washing, showering, prep work, etc, leaves little remaining time for foreplay and sex. Pay up and get 90 minutes or it's a rip-off. Nothing against Pan. Her tits were nice (100% natural see cups with long nipples) but Dolly at Paradise Massage has her beat larger breasts, more perky, larger nipples.

[Member #4698]

I am into my 2nd week in BKK and I am having a great time. My only problem is I am torn between seeing my favorite girls again and again and again and satisfying my desire for NEW. There is just not enough time in a day to do all I want to do. So it is always a trade off.

Good reportage FormulaOneFan. I can confirm CH was packed to the rafters Saturday night. Shark doing ok too, but I was not that enthralled with the Shark selection except for one Coyote I liked the look of and an old friend, hostess girl Noi who I said Hello to and bought a drink for. Over in Nana, I like a number of the spinners in Twister. Two have become repeat friends. Billboard has some nice looking girls as well. I also checked out Rainbow 5 one night. Amazingly it had more customers than Twister, but the girls are not as good looking IMHO. Go figure the taste of East Asians. 555. I gather they like their girls light skinned, taller, with thicker legs than I do and are not as concerned as I am with pretty faces. Only one girl in RB5 interested me. Maybe I will take for a test drive at a later date.

IMHO forget Mitu. If the girls on their web site are any indication, this place is a no go. On the other hand, I have been to the Lord 3 times so far since I arrived in BKK and I have had great sessions all 3 times. Expensive you betcha. M category girls are 5800 bhat, but I have experienced white glove memorable service every time. My 2nd Lord girl Ploy, for example, spent 20 minutes in the Jacuzzi sucking my dick, balls and rimming me. Later on the bed she began rimming me again. After a while I suggested she straddle my head so I could return the favor and we went at it for at least another 30 minutes. She loved where I put my tongue and I loved her response. So far this was the most gnarly session of my trip. Finally I couldn't take anymore so I broke it off and she expertly cowgirled me until I came. It was a really great session, but then, all my Lord sessions have been really good so far. So my advice is check out the Lord and forget Mitu.

P.S. I will post a much more detailed trip report later after I return home in May! Again, BKK is still great. Reports of its demise are premature.

[FormulaOneFan]

Thanks Natty for the intel on MITU. I may just give it a pass then. Main reason for going was to get a 'proper' nuru experience, but since I've had a really good one elsewhere it's not a must-do this trip.

Anyway. Decided I wanted to check off one of the 'most talked about' massage places. Either Tulip or Annie's since they have their own threads here. Decided to go to Tulip since the Annie's thread has broken down into a shit show rather than discussing girls, and the Tulip thread has a lot of recent good reports on specific girls. Unfortunately when I arrived none of the 4-5 girls mentioned here were available, so I decided to test my luck by selecting from the remaining girls in the lineup of 5-6 ladies. Chose a tan skinned girl with a really cute face, natural bee / see cups, long straight hair, with a curvy but not too large ass. In the room turns out she had a bit of a tummy that was hidden by her clothing. I don't remember her name but it wasn't one I had seen mentioned in the Tulip thread. Session started very nicely. She undressed me and immediately started working on my member with a nice BBBJ with lots of ball play and some decent deep throat action with light gagging. I was too big for her to take all the way in, but she did a good job of it anyway (and I'm not huge, just slightly above average for an American guy). Next up the shower, with mutual rubbing and more BJ action. Bed started with an oil massage with lots of emphasis on my crack and then some rimming. Flipped over for some more BBBJ action, then cap on. Started cowgirl with some really good grinding and light kissing, then switched to mish for some long slow action. Despite being a bit on the thicker side, she had a very tight pussy, so despite being on day5 and getting a decent amount of action these past days, it wasn't long before I popped. Partway through mish it seemed like she was really into it so that likely helped the cause a bit.

Still had about 20 mins left of the 90 I booked, so she gave me a bit more massage on my back (I asked because it's been sore lately) and then a shower.

Total damage was 2100 bht + 500 bht tip.

Next up will likely be The Lord for a late afternoon / early evening trip - budget doesn't really bother me as I'm WAY ahead of where I thought I'd be budget wise; I even considered booking a Russian/Ukrainian girl despite the ridiculous prices just to break up the string of Asians, but I figure I'll be back in FKK-land in June and will have my fill of eastern european girls (including Russians). After than, likely either Thermae or Soi Cowboy again (or both). The girl from last night at Thermae has been on my mind, and if I see her again I would consider taking her again and seeing if she'd stay a bit longer. Maybe not LT / overnight, but perhaps a few hours for some longer play time. Or another shiny object (aka cute thai girl) will catch my eye instead.

[Goatscrot]

What do understand by the words "sexually liberated"?

Are Thai wives not more tolerant of their husbands having a second wife (mia noi) or being entertained by sex providers than Western wives?

Is the sex business in Thailand not much more open & tolerated than it is in, say, the USA, Canada, Vietnam or England?

Don't many parents of Thai children knowingly allow, approve or even encourage their children to enter the sex trade?

In Canada since a few years ago paying for sex is outlawed, so I am not allowed to do it anywhere, at least not in this particular universe, as long as I remain under Canadian law, or a citizen of Canada. Fortunately LE, in certain Canadian cities, are not interested in enforcing this law when it involves consenting adults.

Strangely, while buying sex is illegal in Canada, selling it is not.

Consequently, due to LOS being more legally sexually liberated than Canada, even more Canadians than ever may be visiting Siam.None of those points come into play with what I mean by "sexual liberation. " I can illustrate this best with a personal example. Was taking a gal from G-Spot on a very frequent basis years ago. We had a talk about fetish play, nasty talk, and women being aggressive in bed. She was not into any of it and said, "I am not a dirty girl. " This coming from a gal who had been poked by scads of dudes. Thai women are still considered "bad girls" if they are overt about their sexuality, and most of the times that extends to the bedroom. Yes, there are exceptions; but this is the rule. They are not in the least sexually liberated.

Also, have you noticed the way Thai gals are dressing these days? As frumpy as it gets. Even among the freelancers you won't see tight sexy clothes. If you see short shorts on the streets of BKK, you can rest assured it's a tourist. This was not the case 4 years ago, but it is now. Uni gals used to basically compete to see who could wear the shortest tightest uniform. That's over. Longer skirts are the rule.

[FormulaOneFan]

At The Lord now relaxing a bit and waiting too see if the lineup grows; about 8 girls here now, and one sideline girl that caught my eye, but going to have a beer first.

[Member #4698]

At The Lord now relaxing a bit and waiting too see if the lineup grows; about 8 girls here now, and one sideline girl that caught my eye, but going to have a beer first.You are a little early. I don't go there until 7 or 8 pm and usually when I am leaving between 9:30 and 10:30 the line up is still strong. On Sunday I noticed a very attractive sideline girl. She seemed very friendly and ready for action so I asked Mamasan Susan how much (knowing the answer in advance anyway). She replied XX category girl - 10,000 bt. Well that's above my price ceiling so I let her go and selected an adorable M category girl named An - 22 years old, my youngest Lord girl ever. An was my spec alright and really quite lovely. Her performance, however, was not as wild or as expertise and my two previous more experienced M category girls. But I had a great time with her anyway. Youth is its own virtue. So far this trip An has earned the title of finest tight little pussy.

Right now I am relaxing at my hotel getting ready for tonight's action. I plan to visit Crazy House tonight and hook up with one of my two CH favorites, B. She broke her phone a week ago and getting a hold of her has proven difficult. P, my other CH favorite is in her home town attending her father's funeral. So far this trip I have had a session with P solo while her sister, G, was in the living room watching tv. and a menage a trois reunion with P & B which was wonderful. I am looking forward to a solo with B tonight. I hope she is at the bar, but who knows? Not to worry. I will give her to 9:30 to show up and if she doesn't appear I will head over to Nana. I love this town.

[Syzygies]

I am into my 2nd week in BKK and I am having a great time. My only problem is I am torn between seeing my favorite girls again and again and again and satisfying my desire for NEW. There is just not enough time in a day to do all I want to do. So it is always a trade off.

Good reportage FormulaOneFan. I can confirm CH was packed to the rafters Saturday night. Shark doing ok too, but I was not that enthralled with the Shark selection except for one Coyote I liked the look of and an old friend, hostess girl Noi who I said Hello to and bought a drink for. Over in Nana, I like a number of the spinners in Twister. Two have become repeat friends. Billboard has some nice looking girls as well. I also checked out Rainbow 5 one night. Amazingly it had more customers than Twister, but the girls are not as good looking IMHO. Go figure the taste of East Asians. 555. I gather they like their girls light skinned, taller, with thicker legs than I do and are not as concerned as I am with pretty faces. Only one girl in RB5 interested me. Maybe I will take for a test drive at a later date.

IMHO forget Mitu. If the girls on their web site are any indication, this place is a no go. On the other hand, I have been to the Lord 3 times so far since I arrived in BKK and I have had great sessions all 3 times. Expensive you betcha. M category girls are 5800 bhat, but I have experienced white glove memorable service every time. My 2nd Lord girl Ploy, for example, spent 20 minutes in the Jacuzzi sucking my dick, balls and rimming me. Later on the bed she began rimming me again. After a while I suggested she straddle my head so I could return the favor and we went at it for at least another 30 minutes. She loved where I put my tongue and I loved her response. So far this was the most gnarly session of my trip. Finally I couldn't take anymore so I broke it off and she expertly cowgirled me until I came. It was a really great session, but then, all my Lord sessions have been really good so far. So my advice is check out the Lord and forget Mitu.

P.S. I will post a much more detailed trip report later after I return home in May! Again, BKK is still great. Reports of its demise are premature.You taste is very similar to mine. I agree with your bar selection. I went into Mitu and was shown the girl pics. The only one that appealed at all was not working. I don't think they have much for our taste. Skills of the girls mean little to me if they are ugly so I did not try.

[FormulaOneFan]

You are a little early. I don't go there until 7 or 8 pm and usually when I am leaving between 9:30 and 10:30 the line up is still strong. On Sunday I noticed a very attractive sideline girl. She seemed very friendly and ready for action so I asked Mamasan Susan how much (knowing the answer in advance anyway). She replied XX category girl - 10,000 bt. Well that's above my price ceiling so I let her go and selected an adorable M category girl named An - 22 years old, my youngest Lord girl ever. An was my spec alright and really quite lovely. Her performance, however, was not as wild or as expertise and my two previous more experienced M category girls. But I had a great time with her anyway. Youth is its own virtue. So far this trip An has earned the title of finest tight little pussy.

Right now I am relaxing at my hotel getting ready for tonight's action. I plan to visit Crazy House tonight and hook up with one of my two CH favorites, B. She broke her phone a week ago and getting a hold of her has proven difficult. P, my other CH favorite is in her home town attending her father's funeral. So far this trip I have had a session with P solo while her sister, G, was in the living room watching tv. and a menage a trois reunion with P & B which was wonderful. I am looking forward to a solo with B tonight. I hope she is at the bar, but who knows? Not to worry. I will give her to 9:30 to show up and if she doesn't appear I will head over to Nana. I love this town.Yeah, I realize I was there a bit early to hit prime time lineup, but I wanted to make sure I had time to get another session in before the evening's activities. I know my body / libido, and at my age I need a good hour or two between shots to ensure I have a good time. No multiple pops in 90/120 min sessions for me most of the time (Eden club being a rare exception).

Had my beer and had a couple of smokes in the smoking lounge and the lineup definitely increased. A good 20-30 ladies by the time I was ready to make my choice. The sideline girl was still there, but an M level girl caught my eye. M6 Annie. She has a very european look to her face; fair skin and very strikingly different than the classic thai girl look. She has natural bee cups and a flat stomach, but her shorts outfit was hiding an ever so slightly larger ass than I had hoped. Not bad, just bigger than I expected by a touch. Anyway. I agree; The Lord has a great lineup, the rooms are very very nice, and the service was outstanding. Very good tub action, lots of mutual exploring and massaging. Only thing that was a bit awkward is she wanted to wash my hair. For a bit there I felt like a little kid getting his head scrubbed by mom in the tub LOL! Anyway onto the bed for the real action. Very good tease / BBBJ action with good ball action, mutual body roaming, and some light kissing. I didn't push for DFK, but I got the impression that with a repeat visit it would be on the table. Also didn't push for DATY, but fingering was all good. Sex in multiple positions, a short break mid-session to recuperate, and then a strong finish with her in cowgirl. Grinding away and not the 'porny' cowgirl where the girl lifts herself up over you and doesn't let you go deep. She was very playful and had VERY good english; in fact I asked her where she was from at the beginning due to her non-standard thai girl looks and her english skills with a distinct accent. When she spoke slowly she almost sounded spanish or italian instead of thai, when she spoke quickly her thai accent came out.

Overall a very good time. Will definitely repeat again tomorrow (my last day in BKK); thanks for the suggestion! Also seems like the kind of place you could hang around in, get some drinks and dinner, and have repeat sessions, unlike most of the other massage places. Only my second big soapy, so this may be common at all of them.

Tonight I will likely also hit CH after I get some dinner. May do a repeat of last night and bounce around Soi Cowboy and Thermae to see what strikes my fancy.

[Syzygies]

Only thing that was a bit awkward is she wanted to wash my hair.Get used to it. All part of the service. Perhaps you needed it? LOL.

I always preferred to avoid girls offers to give me manicure as well.

I have never yet seen the really great Lord line up. I assume I must have gone there too early, only twice visited so far, but rather few girls and most were ruled out by the surgeries.

It must be realised I am weird though. I could visit Nataree and see 100+ girls and still be struggling to pick a girl that appealed, and always struggled to pick a girl at La Belle as well. Maybe they are just too over dressed, over styled, and not quite natural enough looking. When I found stunners in the Thermae in recent times, they were always busy, or not interested in me (waiting for some one - perhaps Japanese) , so was tough there as well.

[FormulaOneFan]

Get used to it. All part of the service. Perhaps you needed it? LOL.

I always preferred to avoid girls offers to give me manicure as well.

I have never yet seen the really great Lord line up. I assume I must have gone there too early, only twice visited so far, but rather few girls and most were ruled out by the surgeries.

It must be realised I am weird though. I could visit Nataree and see 100+ girls and still be struggling to pick a girl that appealed, and always struggled to pick a girl at La Belle as well. Maybe they are just too over dressed, over styled, and not quite natural enough looking. When I found stunners in the Thermae in recent times, they were always busy, or not interested in me (waiting for some one - perhaps Japanese) , so was tough there as well.Probably LOL. I'm not accustomed to this heat so I sweat a lot. She likely wanted to get all of me clean.

[FormulaOneFan]

My penultimate night (I leave weds morning) of my first reasonable length trip to BKK; got some dinner and then contemplated what to do. As I am a creature of habit and prefer to keep my take-out options close to my hotel I decided yet again to hit up CH, this time at about 930 pm or so. Was busy, but not shit-show busy as it was on the weekend (expected). I started upstairs as I wanted to have a nice comfy seat and all the ones on the first floor were taken, stools only. And just the crap ones in the pinch points of the walkways. Entertained two nice, but not quite bar-finable quality ladies for a bit with lady drinks and some good fondling. One even unzipped my shorts and was stroking me underneath. Headed downstairs after a bit and took in the main show for about an hour. Mostly the same faces from the other night - 2 girls caught my eye #39 with a nice tight ass and a nice natural rack, and #144 again with her perky breasts and nice figure. She reminds me of a girl at Sharks FKK in Germany (who I promised I would never name on ISG, even outside of the Sharks thread), but a bit more petite and obviously with a thai girl face instead of Romanian. Neither quite got me to the point of bar-fining them though, and by both were snatched up by awaiting men as they left the dance floor.

Stuck to the plan from earlier and headed to Thermae with 2 agendas. Look for the stunners that got away the night before, and perhaps run into the girl I took home last night. Struck out on plan a), but success on plan b). Bought her a tomato juice (her choice) and we chatted for a bit before heading back to my hotel. Got to know her a bit more. She's 30, from Chang Mai, and her name sounds like "Kim", but with no "K"; no idea how it's spelled. As I suspected, a repeat session with her loosened her up quite a bit. We chatted some more at my room over waters before moving to the bedroom. Session was much like last night with the added features of very good and passionate DFK, and a mid-session round of DATY that she clearly enjoyed. She had all ready orgasmed at least once earlier during fucking (and she was wet and creamy to prove it), and a bit of oral stimulation led to another bucking and moaning O. Finished up with some mish / chair, and then doggie to seal the deal. Definitely the most GFE session I've had this trip. Glad I gave Thermae a chance the other night. I may try to see her tomorrow as well, we'll see.