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GoneFishin
09-05-17, 10:26
Wanted to try a FL place. Thermae has alot of girls but I just cannot enjoy the vibe of the place. Lots of pretty girls for sure, all types, did the walk around the central bar and kept on walking. Went to beer garden on soi 7 at 8 pm or so. Spacious bar with lots of bar tops to sit at and watch the crowd. I did my own version of the hunt stroll and found a pretty MILF. I was guessing around late 20's, later found out it was mid 30's. Some of them here age very well. She was not smoking which I prefer. Having read pages and pages, most of you long timers here have your girl specs in mind. I am lucky in a sense that everyday I can desire something different. Kinda like choosing the type of food I want today. Always changing, so leaves me open to a larger pool of girls. To be honest, the selection here was not the greatest. I might have felt that tingling from only 2 or 3 girls out of 20 or more. I ordered us a beer and chatted some. Her English was passable and we seemed to click. No loud music so you can converse in a civilized tone. I just said 2 k which seems to be my go to price and she agreed. Off we go to the hotel and after a shower and snuggles, I went to DATY, and she absolutely went crazy, Seems their local boys don't give them good head. The service was in the very good category. We talked a bit more and she did not seem in a hurry to leave so invited her to have dinner with me at terminal 21. Really enjoyed the company, kinda felt like a girlfriend for a night. There are really many good options to enjoy oneself in bkk. I'm glad I don't frequent here as my bank accounts would be on the lean side.
GF.
Mogwal, the girls basically wore a bikini type outfit with a small wrap around the waist but the defining difference is they did not undress at all. Why are they there? Can they compete with the nude girls? Its just seems strange to me. But this is my first time to Asia, so many things, LOL, seems strange to me.
Crocodilexp
09-05-17, 10:40
Went there today and is all closed up. Phone out of service.Can anyone else confirm whether it is closed for good, or just a temporary disruption? Maybe they moved to a different location?
Mogwal, the girls basically wore a bikini type outfit with a small wrap around the waist but the defining difference is they did not undress at all. Why are they there? Can they compete with the nude girls? Its just seems strange to me. But this is my first time to Asia, so many things, LOL, seems strange to me.I haven't visited Crazy House often enough to know the answers to your questions. However in my experience a lot of the girls there are nude but not all of them and not always. Sometimes when I was there almost all of them were nude, sometimes only a few and sometimes they were all dressed.
Anyway, the way CH is managed is quite strange sometimes. If it's managed at all LOL.
Can anyone else confirm whether it is closed for good, or just a temporary disruption? Maybe they moved to a different location?Crocodilexp, I am standing on Soi 14 next to Suda restaurant right now, roughly 7 pm on Tuesday night, and see at least 8 ladies sitting outside on Som's Havens' portch as normal. The overhead sign is all lit up to attract customers. It must have been a temporary closure.
Member #4591
09-05-17, 15:02
Can anyone else confirm whether it is closed for good, or just a temporary disruption? Maybe they moved to a different location?I would bet it is forever because the mobile phone number for the shop is now out of service. There would be no reason to change that if moving locations. The other massage shop on that Soi was also closed down too. The one across from the restaurant.
I would bet it is forever because the mobile phone number for the shop is now out of service. There would be no reason to change that if moving locations. The other massage shop on that Soi was also closed down too. The one across from the restaurant.I assure you Som's is open tonight same as always.
As long as I was out on a stroll, I also decided to check out a couple of other spots for which there had been some questions, rumors and/or misinformation imparted lately; as of about 9 pm tonight, Beer Garden Soi 7 is open for business as always, no discernible change in the building, layout or customer base and ladies since this same time a year ago. And chatting with the mamasan at Wood Bar (formerly Dr. BJ's Salon) on Soi 7/1, she assures me this bar has never had a Ladyboy working there as a provider.
Again, misinformation can occur at anytime and for various reasons including the possibility of the Wood Bar mamasan misinforming me about the Ladyboy issue. Just as one of the regular working girls at Beer Garden Soi 7 misinformed me about that venue's closure supposedly scheduled for last February. I am just reporting what I have seen directly and heard from the powers that be on this particular night.
And in the case of Som's, I chatted with the lady herself and she asked me to choose a lady or two and cum inside. Or vice versa. Lol. But I had a different destination in mind for tonight so I politely declined.
Member #4591
09-05-17, 16:04
I assure you Som's is open tonight same as always.
As long as I was out on a stroll, I also decided to check out a couple of other spots for which there had been some questions, rumors and/or misinformation imparted lately; as of about 9 pm tonight, Beer Garden Soi 7 is open for business as always, no discernible change in the building, layout or customer base and ladies since this same time a year ago. And chatting with the mamasan at Wood Bar (formerly Dr. BJ's Salon) on Soi 7/1, she assures me this bar has never had a Ladyboy working there as a provider.
Again, misinformation can occur at anytime and for various reasons including the possibility of the Wood Bar mamasan misinforming me about the Ladyboy issue. Just as one of the regular working girls at Beer Garden Soi 7 misinformed me about that venue's closure supposedly scheduled for last February. I am just reporting what I have seen directly and heard from the powers that be on this particular night.
And in the case of Som's, I chatted with the lady herself and she asked me to choose a lady or two and cum inside. Or vice versa. Lol. But I had a different destination in mind for tonight so I politely declined.Did you by chance ask her why thenshop was closed at 12:30 and their mobile phone is out of order? I hope you are correct because I miss my little cutie there.
Gannaton48
09-05-17, 20:59
Wanted to try a FL place. Thermae has alot of girls but I just cannot enjoy the vibe of the place. Lots of pretty girls for sure, all types, did the walk around the central bar and kept on walking. Went to beer garden on soi 7 at 8 pm or so. Spacious bar with lots of bar tops to sit at and watch the crowd. I did my own version of the hunt stroll and found a pretty MILF. I was guessing around late 20's, later found out it was mid 30's. Some of them here age very well. She was not smoking which I prefer. Having read pages and pages, most of you long timers here have your girl specs in mind. I am lucky in a sense that everyday I can desire something different. Kinda like choosing the type of food I want today. Always changing, so leaves me open to a larger pool of girls. To be honest, the selection here was not the greatest. I might have felt that tingling from only 2 or 3 girls out of 20 or more. I ordered us a beer and chatted some. Her English was passable and we seemed to click. No loud music so you can converse in a civilized tone. I just said 2 k which seems to be my go to price and she agreed. Off we go to the hotel and after a shower and snuggles, I went to DATY, and she absolutely went crazy, Seems their local boys don't give them good head. The service was in the very good category. We talked a bit more and she did not seem in a hurry to leave so invited her to have dinner with me at terminal 21. Really enjoyed the company, kinda felt like a girlfriend for a night. There are really many good options to enjoy oneself in bkk. I'm glad I don't frequent here as my bank accounts would be on the lean side.
GF.
Mogwal, the girls basically wore a bikini type outfit with a small wrap around the waist but the defining difference is they did not undress at all. Why are they there? Can they compete with the nude girls? Its just seems strange to me. But this is my first time to Asia, so many things, LOL, seems strange to me.Thanks really for this contribution. Like you, adn even if many laugh about that on this forum, I like soi7 beergarden. OK, never had the fuck of my life, but I have to say (and each of us has his tates, fortunately) that I am not looking for PSE, rather for GFE. In other terms, even though it sounds naïve, I go to bed with a person, not with a pussy. And this is, to me, the unique advantage of beergarden: you can discuss with any of these MILFs for long time, they will not be angry if finanly you say non and go to another one, etc. In Thermae, there is almost no discussion: you agree on price, hardly negociate what she does or not, and out for a quick ST. I like Thermae"s athmosphere I must say, but there si a bit too much "buying meat". Moreover as an older farang, most of them will, more less politely, reject me. But that's the game and we know it.
I will be in BKK Friday and Saturday: would be very happy if you could give me the name of your beergarden lady! She will probably be there.
Thanks a lot!
Did you by chance ask her why thenshop was closed at 12:30 and their mobile phone is out of order? I hope you are correct because I miss my little cutie there.I only mentioned that I'd heard the shop was closed for a while and her response was a very big "NO!" I didn't pursue it beyond that or bring in more details as though I was trying to contradict her initial response or challenge her on the facts. I have known Som a long time and prefer to just let such a forceful reply speak for itself, leave it alone and move on to other topics. If she closed for a few hours due to some personal issue or even a technical problem in terms of an electrical outage or whatever, she didn't volunteer the information and I have no interest in or reason to chase her down on it in order to get the "real scoop" on what happened. The shop was open last night as usual and that is as far as I wanted to go with it.
Her Line account is working unchanged as it has for years, but I never tried her mobile number. Maybe she is just having phone problems or changing her provider. You say 12:30, are you talking about 12:30 PM (Noon) or 12:30 AM (Midnight)? I have never gone there that early but I don't think Som's Haven usually opens as early as 12:30 PM (Noon). And, although their official closing time is 1 AM, I know they will sometimes close as early as 12:30 AM (Midnight) if they are not busy and there are no customers seen heading down that small sub soi off Soi 14 leading to the shop.
GoneFishin
09-06-17, 02:14
I will be in BKK Friday and Saturday: would be very happy if you could give me the name of your beergarden lady! She will probably be there.
Thanks a lot!No, I did not write down name, as I do not plan on returning for years, at least, the travel is just to far for my old bones. If they have their favorite spots to sit her's was in the middle and she has sandy brown hair. One of the few pretty ones, so that may help narrow it down some. Although everyone's view on pretty is different. I plan on taking a break from all this popping off and visit Siem Reap for a day. RT airfare last minute was like 200 us and accommodations are pretty cheap on airbnb.
GoneFishin
09-06-17, 02:43
Day 4 or 5, not sure, LOL.
My plan today was to do a bicycle tour with a company near Snow White massage for morning tour then visit SW afterwards. Just my luck the morning tour that day was private so missed out on that. I remembered reading about a place close by to SW that had a good thai massage at some school on soi 39. The name is like what Po but outside signage says Massage 39. You go in and they schedule you a time for your massage. I did 2 hour at 500 baht, I had many kinks to be worked out. There is a process and I stumbled through it so I will help you guys out who want to visit. First they you sit at area to have your feet washed. They take your shoes and put them in a locker. Slippers provided, a bone crusher (as I did not see any young students) walks you upstairs to the room with floor mats to perform msg. She will leave you in the cubicle to change. They hand you a tshirt to wear and as I found out later there are like pj pants in the bundle of towels you also change into. I was standing there in my undies and provide shirt when she came back. The bone crusher took a look at me and said something in Thai that made all the all masseuses laugh. She handed me the pants from the bundle. She spent like 20 min or so on each limb then moved to the back and head. There is a card she hands you with translated directions for you to use to communicate with her. Says things like hard, soft, stop, etc. Best massage for the money I have yet had. I felt like a wet noodle afterwards. She takes you back downstairs and sits you down. Wait and she will bring you tea and your shoes back. Tip her then your out the door.
Snow White is basically across Suk. Very close just have to navigate crossing the street. Remember reading a post recently recommending Candy. She was there with like 4 other girls. Not a large pool to choose from but went with her. Pretty enough, few tattoos, baby damage, but enthusiastic. Told mamasan 2 hour 2300 and off we went. She is chatting with me, speaks some English and begins by asking if I want 2 or 3 times. I said I would be happy with 2 if we can manage. So you guys that want multiple pops at msg place here is one. Room was small and basic with large shower. She washes me down then I sit and wait for BBBJ on the sofa. Great technique and almost had me go then but wanted to wait. Most of the time for me, the 2nd round is best finished with BJ. I had her any position I wanted. All of the ladies so far have been tight and she was no exception. I was worried because when she washed me she stated I was not big, LOL. Found out later on foreigners come here and not local boys. All finished bjs have been the spit out type. No swallows as of yet, but they hold it for long time and they suck you dry. Nice touch. Had my 2 pops and I was happy and walked back to Terminal 21 to see the sights a bit. Side note that huge Dinosaur exhibit on suk, I hardly see anyone in there. Seems like a money loser.
GF.
Member #4591
09-06-17, 02:58
I just sent an SMS to Ploy at 15:00 and she said the shop is open today. The phone was not working last Saturday when I went but the shop was open. I had planned to meet a friend there after his session at 13:00 but changed my mind when I saw the lunch crowd sitting outside the shop.Ya, it was so strange for me yesterday. Normally the shop is open at 12:00 PM noon. I went there and the restaurant had customers sat out in front of their shop. Maybe it is opening later now. 2 PM or 3 PM. Anyways, glad of the good news as this is my favourite BJ shop with one little spinner.
Ya, it was so strange for me yesterday. Normally the shop is open at 12:00 PM noon. I went there and the restaurant had customers sat out in front of their shop. Maybe it is opening later now. 2 PM or 3 PM. Anyways, glad of the good news as this is my favourite BJ shop with one little spinner.Are you saying Suda, the restaurant right on Soi 14 a few steps down from Sukhumvit, had tables set up with customers sitting in them as far down as Som's Haven? Or are you talking about some tiny restaurant next door to Som's Haven that I have never paid attention to? Som's Haven is really far down that sub soi and away from Suda. Well, I mean you can see it from Suda. But it is several yards down that sub soi, not next door at all. Can't see how or why Suda would have customers and tables set up all the way down that soi as far as Som's Haven unless it was some kind of special event block party. Btw, Som's Haven already has 2-3 tables set up out front of the shop where the girls and sometimes customers too will sit and eat food. Food often bought and carried over from Suda I would think.
Member #4591
09-06-17, 04:01
Are you saying Suda, the restaurant right on Soi 14 a few steps down from Sukhumvit, had tables set up with customers sitting in them as far down as Som's Haven? Or are you talking about some tiny restaurant next door to Som's Haven that I have never paid much attention to? That is really far down the sub soi and away from Suda. Can't see how or why Suda would have customers and tables set up all the way down that soi. Som's Haven already has a couple of tables set up out front of the shop where the girls and sometimes customers too will sit and eat food. Food often bought at Suda I would think.Me or the other member didn't walk over and ask the lunch crowd where they bought there food. It could have been from the big restaurant or a small vender, I don't know. What I do know is there were tables set up right in front of Som's heaven with customers eating.
Dextro Sol
09-06-17, 06:58
I hope I don't break any forum rules with this post. Stickboy Bangkok just published a post from Billboard Bankok's facebook with over 1500 pics from Billboard. A lot of eye candy there!
https://www.facebook.com/stickboybangkok/posts/954662324671521
*snip* What I do know is there were tables set up right in front of Som's heaven with customers eating.Yep, and I have been one of those customers in the past. I have gone to Som's Haven with the intention of satisfying one appetite but satisfied another either before or after going inside. I remember one night -- maybe late afternoon -- when I found the whole staff eating fish and drinking cheap Thai whiskey. I bought another bottle, sat with them for a while, and went inside with one of the ladies when we had finished the fish. Great time. I don't usually report on BJ bar adventures but I think I wrote about that visit because exactly the girl I wanted to take (Ms Am?) stood up and led me inside. Could be simple chance (odds of 1 in 10 or 12) but I think not, and I was left wondering how in hell did Som scope out my interests? Anyway, good to know the shop is still open. TTG.
Gannaton48
09-06-17, 08:52
No, I did not write down name, as I do not plan on returning for years, at least, the travel is just to far for my old bones. If they have their favorite spots to sit her's was in the middle and she has sandy brown hair. One of the few pretty ones, so that may help narrow it down some. Although everyone's view on pretty is different. I plan on taking a break from all this popping off and visit Siem Reap for a day. RT airfare last minute was like 200 us and accommodations are pretty cheap on airbnb.Will see. Seat of lady is irrelevant as they change all the time to be viewed from different angles. In fact, when we sit at the central bank, the relatively dim light prevents us from seing them well.
Thank you for reply, anyway.
Day 4 or 5, not sure, LOL.
My plan today was to do a bicycle tour with a company near Snow White massage for morning tour then visit SW afterwards. Just my luck the morning tour that day was private so missed out on that.
GF.Go with 'CovanKessel' tours. They are the best.
I hope I don't break any forum rules with this post. Stickboy Bangkok just published a post from Billboard Bankok's facebook with over 1500 pics from Billboard. A lot of eye candy there!
https://www.facebook.com/stickboybangkok/posts/954662324671521I wonder which one Syzygies thinks has the best nose.
I wonder which one Syzygies thinks has the best nose.I have no Facebook Logon. LOL Anyway I know the Standard at Billboard.
Most guys see girls, very young, with nice tits in the bath and are in love. How many are actually pretty on the carosel? Not so many.
I presume so many past girls in the pics that are not there any more. Many girls did not seem to last long.
GoneFishin
09-07-17, 07:19
Go with 'CovanKessel' tours. They are the best.Thanks for the suggestion, I would have really liked to have done one of those bike tours. Whoever is following my newbie thread, I jumped over to Siem Reap, Cambodia for a day, currently in Pattaya before heading to HCMC.
GF.
BlueKangaroo
09-08-17, 02:30
Got back from Bangkok a few weeks ago and I thought I would share my experience at The Pimp, who for those unfamiliar is what is referred to here as a "gentleman's club", or G-club as some might call it.
First off I would preface this report by saying that The Pimp is just one of several such clubs in Bangkok and I have not gone to the others yet, so I can't really compare or guarantee that you'll have a similar experience elsewhere. This is actually my second time there and to be honest I was kind of worried that the second time would not live up to the hype of the first time, but it actually exceeded my expectations and I was pleasantly surprised.
We got there around 9 pm on a Saturday night, which was actually advised to us by the mamasan because just like popular AGGs like CH, the later you go there is a higher chance that the "better" girls will have already been taken by other customers. Me and my friend got a private room that comes with a karaoke machine, nice big comfy couches, a platter of fruits, and we also bought two bottles of Johnnie Walker Black Label.
The way The Pimp is designed is it's similar to a club, where you have the main area where there is a stage where the girls dance and where sometimes there is a live band playing, and behind the main area there are a bunch of private rooms varying in sizes. However if you do go I highly suggest getting a private room because more shenanigans can be had without the rest of the club watching you, unless that's your kind of thing.
The mamasan then brought over a lineup of girls, I think there was about 20 to choose from and all of them (to me) were stunners, which made it so much harder to choose. Me and my friend made our picks and went back to the room. We played a lot of drinking games which got more fun the more drunk we got, and maybe after an hour or two of playing games and attempting (and failing) to sing Thai songs, things started to get wild with their clothes coming off, and after that it was pretty much a do-as-you-please situation short of actual sex, however I have heard stories from friends and other forums that you can get BJs while in the private rooms, but YMMV.
Later on in the night when we were quite high and tipsy, girls selling tequila shots came in and my friend in his drunken state bought them four shots each at 200 baht per shot if I'm not mistaken. Then girls dressed as geishas came in and brought us menus for Japanese food, which honestly neither of us was particularly hungry for but the girls seemed rather keen on it, which I'm guessing they might get a cut from the upsell.
The entire night was back and forth between playing drinking games, making out, grabbing, fingering, necking, singing karaoke, eating questionable (but tasty) Japanese food, and basically getting smashed, since we essentially managed to polish off two bottles of Johnnie Walker between the four of us.
Our intention was maybe to stay 3-4 hours because they charge every 30 minutes, but we ended up staying there until like 4 am. There is the option for taking them home, but you have to let the mamasan know beforehand so she can arrange a lineup of girls that will go home with you. Fair warning though, if you thought that the asking price for AGGs are expensive, taking girls home from The Pimp is considerably more, and the experience itself might not necessarily be better since this probably varies from girl to girl, but the actual experience in the club itself has been pretty consistent.
I would have loved to take mine home but I know I was too drunk to really get anything accomplished, so I wisely passed on that. My friend was a bit torn as he was feeling a bit randy but he also knew that he would be too drunk to enjoy it fully, but he asked his girl to quote a price, which she asked for 6,000 baht which does not include the barfine. This figure is negotiable, by the way, my first trip I managed to get away with 3,000 baht. However his girl was either not keen on going back with him, really needed the money, or was too drunk and needed to find a way of turning him down politely, but she basically refused to budge on the 6,000 price.
The damage that night was about 22,000 baht for both of us, not including tips to the girls, waiters, and mamasan, which I think would have amounted to 25,000. Like I said, this is a rather pricey experience and might not be everyone's cup of tea and based on what I've read, not necessarily what some forum members might consider to be a "smart" way to spend their money.
However to each their own, we all chase different experiences when it comes to the P4 P scene anyway, but if you're looking for something different from the soapies, oilies, AGGs, or FLs on WeChat, BJ bars, and so on, then this could be an alternative worth exploring if you have the cash to spare.
If anyone needs a breakdown on how they charge, let me know as this post has become way lengthier than I expected.
Gannaton48
09-08-17, 07:44
Hi!!
Am in BKK for only 2 days. Would like to try a 3 some in my room. I heard that most hotels would not allow 2 girls to join, only 1 (even if one books a big room). Who knows about hotels allowing 2 guests the same time? Thanks!!
TrueBlue666
09-08-17, 08:51
Hi!!
Am in BKK for only 2 days. Would like to try a 3 some in my room. I heard that most hotels would not allow 2 girls to join, only 1 (even if one books a big room). Who knows about hotels allowing 2 guests the same time? Thanks!!I have never heard of a girl friendly hotel caring about how many girls you bring back at a time. Extra fee? Maybe. Not allow? Nonsense.
Christian G
09-08-17, 09:33
Hi!!
Am in BKK for only 2 days. Would like to try a 3 some in my room. I heard that most hotels would not allow 2 girls to join, only 1 (even if one books a big room). Who knows about hotels allowing 2 guests the same time? Thanks!!Is not true that most hotels don't allow 2 girls to join you. Some hotels ask for joiner fee if you take 2 guest. Anyway I had ST 3 some at Salil Hotel in soi11 and was no problem to bring 2 girls without joiner fee. This was 3 years ago.
Gannaton48
09-08-17, 14:46
Is not true that most hotels don't allow 2 girls to join you. Some hotels ask for joiner fee if you take 2 guest. Anyway I had ST 3 some at Salil Hotel in soi11 and was no problem to bring 2 girls without joiner fee. This was 3 years ago.Yes, for Salil I knew, its well-known for that peculiarity. Are there other ones?
Am in BKK for only 2 days. Would like to try a 3 some in my room. I heard that most hotels would not allow 2 girls to join, only 1 (even if one books a big room). Who knows about hotels allowing 2 guests the same time? Thanks!!From my very own expericence:
- Plaza Athenee LE Meridien.
- Sofitel So.
- Grand Sukhumvit Hotel Bangkok managed by ACCOR.
- Hilton Sukhumvit.
- Westin Grand Sukhumvit.
All complete GF even for 2 girls, albeit Grand Sukhumvit was many years ago when it was still a Sofitel, maybe they have changed their policy.
Tim Hunter
09-08-17, 20:50
Hi!!
Am in BKK for only 2 days. Would like to try a 3 some in my room. I heard that most hotels would not allow 2 girls to join, only 1 (even if one books a big room). Who knows about hotels allowing 2 guests the same time? Thanks!!Get an Airbnb apartment where you can bring guests. You get much more privacy too.
Grandaddy Perp
09-09-17, 04:10
Got back from Bangkok a few weeks ago and I thought I would share my experience at The Pimp, who for those unfamiliar is what is referred to here as a "gentleman's club", or G-club as some might call it.
First off I would preface this report by saying that The Pimp is just one of several such clubs in Bangkok and I have not gone to the others yet, so I can't really compare or guarantee that you'll have a similar experience elsewhere. This is actually my second time there and to be honest I was kind of worried that the second time would not live up to the hype of the first time, but it actually exceeded my expectations and I was pleasantly surprised.
We got there around 9 pm on a Saturday night, which was actually advised to us by the mamasan because just like popular AGGs like CH, the later you go there is a higher chance that the "better" girls will have already been taken by other customers. Me and my friend got a private room that comes with a karaoke machine, nice big comfy couches, a platter of fruits, and we also bought two bottles of Johnnie Walker Black Label.
The way The Pimp is designed is it's similar to a club, where you have the main area where there is a stage where the girls dance and where sometimes there is a live band playing, and behind the main area there are a bunch of private rooms varying in sizes. However if you do go I highly suggest getting a private room because more shenanigans can be had without the rest of the club watching you, unless that's your kind of thing...Nice report. The Pimp is great fun and yes the ladies are true stunners and very fun if you're mostly looking for a high end party experience and to be pampered by really hot women.
James Dean 2
09-09-17, 07:06
Did you by chance ask her why thenshop was closed at 12:30 and their mobile phone is out of order? I hope you are correct because I miss my little cutie there.I can also confirms its business as usual at Som's. Last session was Wednesday afternoon (2:30 pm) and good as always. There were double the number of girls for that time of the day and some new cuties.
As far as lunch tables go, this has been there for a couple of years now. The outside turns into a pop up street restaurant, though not sure who runs them. The first time I saw it, I to walked away confused. Luckily, as I was walking towards BTS, I met one of the girls by Hemingway's (it was still up then) and she led be back in from their back door. It was business as usual inside and you were still welcome to use the front door if you wanted to brave the office crowd / walk of shame I prefer the back door if around noon and front up after 2.
Can any "expert" explain to me what really differentiates something like Honey Bee Massage, which offers a full range of services including baths, nuru, and full service vs. A "soapy" like Annies? It seems soapy's only benefit is more selection (fishbowls + models). Other than that, it seems a place like Honey Bee Massage offer similar packages. What makes it a massage parlor vs. A soapy?
And an additional question regarding a service description at Honey Bee. There full service package says: "The price is All Inclusive (with a happy ending massage and full service massage)". Does this mean you get two shots (BJ in beginning and full service at end? Or are they just implying FS at the end.
Hi!!
Am in BKK for only 2 days. Would like to try a 3 some in my room. I heard that most hotels would not allow 2 girls to join, only 1 (even if one books a big room). Who knows about hotels allowing 2 guests the same time? Thanks!!I took 3 girls to Admiral Premier Room. No problems. They were used to me taking multiples. I used that Hotel due to easy walking distance from the source of the girls at the time. Like Natty says, plenty of Hotels are not batting an eyelid.
Get an Airbnb apartment where you can bring guests. You get much more privacy too.Not really. This means the neighbors have to hear loud drunk isaan working girls and their fake moaning all night. I say this because I stay in a condo and would be floored if they let these kinds of tourists rent the unit next to mine.
Just walk in with 2 girls, to your hotel. Don't over think it or you will be anxious about it. I can't recall the hotel but I did this a few years ago.
I've never had a problem taking 2 girls to my room in any of the 4 hotels I've stayed at in BKK. A couple of times the doorguy might've giving me a funny look (probably envy), but seriously, who gives a frack what he thinks.
Question about threesomes. Is everyone that partakes in the threesome usually strangers? Or do the girls usually know each other and they work as a team?
I've never had a problem taking 2 girls to my room in any of the 4 hotels I've stayed at in BKK. A couple of times the doorguy might've giving me a funny look (probably envy), but seriously, who gives a frack what he thinks.
Member #4698
09-10-17, 02:34
Question about threesomes. Is everyone that partakes in the threesome usually strangers? Or do the girls usually know each other and they work as a team?I am sitting on my patio in South East Florida sipping some high quality Tequila as the outer bands of monster storm Irma occasionally blow some horizontal rain down all around me and I don't care because I dodged a bullet tonight. The eye of Irma is getting ready to pound Key West and Fort Myer more than 100 miles away. What a break for South Eastern Florida although I do feel sorry for those cats on the Gulf and I know how they feel because all week Irma was heading straight towards me until it started shifting to the west yesterday.
Threesomes:
All my threesomes are with girls who not only know each other, but are friends. It usually takes a little time for the 3 way relationship to develop and I never rush it. For example, on the 1st night that I meet an attractive girl in a Go Go or bar; I ask her over, buy her a drink, and fool around a little. Eventually her girlfriends will come over to see what's happening (ie to see if their friend has landed a blue fin tuna or a minnow) and to possibly be offered a lady drink. I am a friendly guy especially in a Go Go or club so if I like the original girl, I will offer to buy a 2nd round for the two of us plus drinks for 1 or 2 of her friends. Anyway, if all is going well I barfine the original girl and take her back to my hotel for a ST. Yada yada yada. If the session was very good I usually offer to take the girl out for dinner afterwards or suggest we go back to the bar for more drinks. Whatever else happens that is night #1. No threeway. Then sometime later, could be the next time I see the original girl or the time after that, she will offer or mention, if she is into doing threesomes, (that's very important) which of her girlfriends is up for it and there it is. Sometimes all of her friends will be up for it. 555.
I know there are more direct ways of arranging a menage a trois that take less time, but my slow method has proven itself time and time again. And my threesome relationships can last over many trips. I currently have two CH girls that I repeat with all the time and I solo them as well. I did a threesome with one of my two CH girls and her older sister twice, but older sister was not that good in bed and would not work with her younger sister eg like ride me cowgirl as her youger sister sits on my face or something like that. LOL So I cut older sister out of it although I still buy her drinks and fool around with her in Crazy House.
I have another set of great girls from Bottoms Bar in Makati, PI. It's a long and enjoyable story of how that arrangement came about. I must have told it in the Makati forum back in 2015 when I met them. Great girls. They take up a lot of my Manila time. I took them both to Sabang Beach, Palawan this last April and we had a fun time.
The point I want to make here is that threesomes are readily availalble, but I think it is best not to rush into the threesome, but rather to let it happen on its own accord or rather let the suggestion of it come from the girls. Sometimes they will offer it right away. That happened the 1st night I visited Twister after I started buying drinks for a girl I liked and then for two of her sexy little friends. All three of them danced and rubbed their bodies up against my dick in the booth and placed my hands on their breasts. I think we went 3 rounds that night. That first meeting was a fun, but rather than plunge into a threesome or foursome that night, I took my time and barfined the original girl only. Later after she proved herself to be a keeper, I asked her out for some dinner and it was her idea that we stop off at some pizza place, pick up a couple of pies, and take them back to Twister. That sounded like an interesting idea so we ended up on the veranda outside Twister and I watched my girl and her crew devour the pizzas in no time flat. While the girls were eating their pies, I was checking out which of her friends I wanted to do. And sure enough, when I returned to Twister a few days later the TWO girls were ready to go. They even had brought their bathing suits to work with them because I had mentioned the possibility of an evening pool party sometime during that 1st night. And that was the beginning of my Twister threesome #1 which later changed to include a different girlfriend as the 2nd girl. I had the feeling that I could have had threesomes with all of my little Twister's girl friends. She had 5 girlfriends dancing alongside her. I am still in Line communication with her and I look forward to more good times with her and her crew.
Ah BKK. I miss it so and I could go on reminiscing for another couple of pages, but now I want to go back to Irma and more Tequila on the patio. It is a great show! I really dodged a bullet. The aftermath of this storm will be devastating for the West Coast of Florida as it already has been for St Martin and the Bristish Virgin Islands..
Then sometime later, could be the next time I see the original girl or the time after that, she will offer or mention, if she is into doing threesomes, (that's very important) which of her girlfriends is up for it and there it is. Sometimes all of her friends will be up for it. 555.
I know there are more direct ways of arranging a menage a trois that take less time, but my slow method has proven itself time and time again. And my threesome relationships can last over many trips. This is next level, veteran type stuff. Wow.
Blanquiceleste
09-10-17, 05:14
I am sitting on my patio in South East Florida sipping some high quality Tequila as the outer bands of monster storm Irma occasionally blow some horizontal rain down all around me and I don't care because I dodged a bullet tonight. The eye of Irma is getting ready to pound Key West and Fort Myer more than 100 miles away. What a break for South Eastern Florida although I do feel sorry for those cats on the Gulf and I know how they feel because all week Irma was heading straight towards me until it started shifting to the west yesterday.
The point I want to make here is that threesomes are readily availalble, but I think it is best not to rush into the threesome, but rather to let it happen on its own accord or rather let the suggestion of it come from the girls. God bless you NB. My prayers for those who aren't as lucky.
On threesomes, you absolutely nailed it. Never rush into it, it can go sideways very quickly and the night can be a total disaster. Now I have done very few threesomes in comparison but I tend to follow the same MO.
This is really a good lesson for noobs.
XRatedBangkok
09-10-17, 05:37
Disclaimer: All personal opinion, with only 1 girl tried at each place, so the experience might be because of the girl.
Name was Tik (They put name of ladies on the tie). Asked "deep" loudly this time and all girls were like "Ohhhh deep work, she's the best! - turned out to be true later. (...)
Deed started. And Wow!! She was so good. Balls deep. Sloppy. Fully responsive to all requests. Also allowed to be rough. Smiling all the way. No fake moans. In fact had some genuine talk in between, when I wanted to explain what I want her to do. But man, she never said no to anything. Eager to please.To anyone who is in the deep throat thing, I kindly advise Chin-Chin from Woodbar, on Soi 7/1. I hired her several times and she is my all-time favourite. She has no gag reflex so you can literally do anything you want that you have seen in porn flix, she is the PSE kind. Deep throat, face fuck, CIM, you name it. Tough cookie. She hangs out at Woodbar quite often, she is a MILF with glasses usually sitting outside. You can see what she looks like by doing a quick search on the net, find their website, then Staff / Letter G. Damage is 1000 thb for 30 min.
Nevertheless LewisCarrol, I will try Tik and post who is the champ.
Question about threesomes. Is everyone that partakes in the threesome usually strangers? Or do the girls usually know each other and they work as a team?Used to be easy at Suzie Wong as there were girls used to licking each other out in the lesbian show. One of the very best 'lesbians' was Dtom. She may start working in Shark shortly. Dtom has done hundreds of threesomes and reckons she is the best pussy licker in the bar. She will be able to suggest which girls are the very best for a threesome without any doubt. Patty with big bouncy double Dees (now in Shark bar) may also be able to suggest as she comes form Suzie Wong as well. Not sure though if she did the lesbian show. Her sister (real sister) was a good 3 some performer (not with Patty. Real sisters do not make sex with each other generally - friend sisters OK).
Always best to get girls used to doing threesomes and girls that are good friends. Obviously girls that dislike each other cannot work together well.
You don't want shy girls, where one will hide in the toilet while you fuck the other. That is why you need experienced girls. Ask for a sample of them molesting each other a bit in the bar if in doubt.
If they cannot tongue kiss each other and suck on the tits at least, then maybe its a fail, although maybe some bars have strict rules. Certainly not Crazy House. LOL.
BTW I cannot recommend Suzie Wong bar any more. All the good girls have left due to the new mis-management.
Member #4698
09-10-17, 16:06
You don't want shy girls, where one will hide in the toilet while you fuck the other. That is why you need experienced girls. Ask for a sample of them molesting each other a bit in the bar if in doubt.I agree Syzygies.
It appears to me that there are 3 forms of threesomes. The lowest form is what you describe above: shy or self-conscious girls resulting in successive independent sessions.
I once met this wonderful 18-year-old Pinay in a bar called One Eyed Wench in AC. Our 1st night together (LT) was really good so I made plans to see her again the next night. She then introduced me to her charming older 21-year-old cousin. The girls were really close. My girl practically begged me to barfine them both and I agreed since the cousin was pretty good looking in her own right and had an equally nice personality. So off we went. HA HA. On the way back to my hotel we stopped off at a kiosk where I bought the girls bathing suits so we could take a midnight swim. We were the only ones in the pool and our little pool party was a lot of fun. Neither girl had ever experienced a hot tub and after much coaxing the cousin joined us. She must have really liked it because after she acclimated to the water temp, she didn't want to get out. So everything was going swimmingly if you know what I mean.
But back in the room, it turned out that both girls were SHY and would not / could not engage while the other one was in the bed. Luckily, I had a corner room at the Lewis Grand with a nice balcony. So I did the younger girl first while the older cousin waited on the balcony and after I was done with the younger one, I headed to the shower for a quick rinse. When I returned to the bedroom the older cousin was lying in bed naked under the sheets with a naughty smile on her face and we became intimate while the younger girl had moved to the balcony. Then after the 2nd shag and cleanup both girls got in bed with me in the middle and we watched tv and drank Vodka & OJ until we fell asleep.
In the early morning, I woke up with a hard on. Both girls were wrapped around my body. I rolled over onto my side so my dick was up against the younger cousin's ass. I began to gently rub her while kissing her neck. She opened up her legs and I silently slid into her pussy from behind. The morning sex was great. The older cousin did not stir, apparently in sleep mode the whole time, although I wouldn't be surprised if she had known what was going on and chose not to acknowledge it. Anyway, after it was over we both went back to sleep for a few more hours. Later I took the girls to breakfast and then saw them off. I had one more "threesome" with the girls before I left for Subic. Then after I returned to AC we hooked up again two more times.
I was more into the younger cousin than the older one and successive sex is not my idea of a great threesome, but the younger girl was very attached to her cousin and the cousin was nice so I went along with the program. Prices were ridiculously low at the time as well. The EWR (early work release) which included the barfine and LT was 1800 pesos ($40) per girl at the time. I gave the girls generous tips as well. I will never forget the day we said goodbye. I was alone in the bedroom with the younger cousin. She began crying and I had to hold her and sofly kiss her tears away while trying to console her by telling her I really liked her and that I would be back to see her again. All True! But it never happened. When I returned a year later the girls were no longer at One Eyed Wench. The mamasan said they had gone back home to the provinces. But the mamasan remembered me and knew the type of girl I liked so she introduced me to another young 18-year-old who was almost the spitting image and had the same body type as my lost love. So all is well that ends well. And the cousins were great although they could have been better if they had not been so shy or self concious, but I figure that was part of their charm ie their feigned or real semi innocence. Only in the PI, LOS, Indonesia, and Cambodia. 555.
Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?
Used to be easy at Suzie Wong as there were girls used to licking each other out in the lesbian show. One of the very best 'lesbians' was Dtom. She may start working in Shark shortly. Dtom has done hundreds of threesomes and reckons she is the best pussy licker in the bar. She will be able to suggest which girls are the very best for a threesome without any doubt. Patty with big bouncy double Dees (now in Shark bar) may also be able to suggest as she comes form Suzie Wong as well. Not sure though if she did the lesbian show. Her sister (real sister) was a good 3 some performer (not with Patty. Real sisters do not make sex with each other generally - friend sisters OK).
Always best to get girls used to doing threesomes and girls that are good friends. Obviously girls that dislike each other cannot work together well.
You don't want shy girls, where one will hide in the toilet while you fuck the other. That is why you need experienced girls. Ask for a sample of them molesting each other a bit in the bar if in doubt.
If they cannot tongue kiss each other and suck on the tits at least, then maybe its a fail, although maybe some bars have strict rules. Certainly not Crazy House. LOL.
BTW I cannot recommend Suzie Wong bar any more. All the good girls have left due to the new mis-management.Good points about getting experienced ladies that have friends they are comfortable working with and avoiding the shy ones. I use the PSE shops so that eliminates the shy ones. What works well for me is to ask one of my regulars if they like working with other ladies and if they they are interested in doing a threesome. I specify that I expect real lesbian action in addition to the standard PSE fare. If interested they usually suggest a friend they like to work with. As I have a history with these ladies they are already comfortable with me and know what I like so that is half the equation with the only variable being the other lady. So far this has worked quite well and I have had some great threesomes at Tulip, Mango and Bongkot and never had a bad session. The best sessions generally included a lady who is bi-sexual and has a Tom partner as these ladies really like to eat pussy and know their way around a vibrator. I like to DFK with both ladies at the same time and have one of the ladies eat the others pussy with me and also fuck each of them while they 69. Anything less is not a threesome to me. I believe that the ladies view me as as good, steady and generous customer and are eager to make me happy. It just takes a little time and generosity.
Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?Good question. I don't think that question has ever been asked or answered. It should be a good experiment when you arrive. When you find out, please post here so we will know as well. Thanks in advance for your help.
Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?That depends on the distance from the Nana district to your hotel.
But seriously, I'm getting more and more the feeling lately that some board members create another handle and deliberately post these kind of newbie questions with the sole purpose of annoying us.
Member #4591
09-11-17, 10:18
Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?I had the same question. Could you read the forum and let me know the answer? I'm too busy shagging a girl from Nana district at a hotel.
That depends on the distance from the Nana district to your hotel.
But seriously, I'm getting more and more the feeling lately that some board members create another handle and deliberately post these kind of newbie questions with the sole purpose of annoying us.Thank you very much for your reply, was very helpful.
LordBastian
09-11-17, 10:31
I had the same question. Could you read the forum and let me know the answer? I'm too busy shagging a girl from Nana district at a hotel.2500-3000 THB for bar and tip for "long time hanging out" is negotiable. But usually the same as the bar fine. You can usually talk them way down from that though. Just remember, you're not paying them for spending time with you. You're paying them to leave. Quietly.
Member #4591
09-11-17, 10:53
2500-3000 THB for bar and tip for "long time hanging out" is negotiable. But usually the same as the bar fine. You can usually talk them way down from that though. Just remember, you're not paying them for spending time with you. You're paying them to leave. Quietly.Dude. I guess you didn't understand me post. LOL.
Member #4591
09-11-17, 10:57
2500-3000 THB for bar and tip for "long time hanging out" is negotiable. But usually the same as the bar fine. You can usually talk them way down from that though. Just remember, you're not paying them for spending time with you. You're paying them to leave. Quietly.LOL, here we go! Do we have any takers?
Hotman 666
09-11-17, 11:21
Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?Yes thanks.
Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.
Dextro Sol
09-11-17, 18:26
Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.Spend one night at Soi Cowboy and one night at Nana Plaza. Choose a hotel in between (they are 25-30 minutes walking distance from one another) and you can actually go back and forth each night if desired. It also allows you to visit Thermae, various after-hours clubs, BJ bars, etc. Very easily. This is a highly trafficked tourist area as well so good for a comfortable layover.
2500-3000 THB for bar and tip for "long time hanging out" is negotiable. But usually the same as the bar fine. You can usually talk them way down from that though. Just remember, you're not paying them for spending time with you. You're paying them to leave. Quietly.I guess you haven't been to Thailand for quite a few years then. There is no BF for street walkers.
There is no BF for street walkers.Damn, I've been getting ripped off then. I have been meeting girls in the streets, then walking into the nearest bar and handing the mamasan there 700 baht.
I guess you haven't been to Thailand for quite a few years then. There is no BF for street walkers.Actually, LordBastian's reply was accurate if we're talking about the Coyote girls working at places like Coyboy2 Bar on Soi Cowboy and a few others. But for most other girls there and other bars the barfine part of it is much less than those amounts. On the other hand, I don't think there was ever a time even in the distant past when a barfine was required to take a freelancer off the street.
Come to think of it, the original poster posing the question did not stipulate which P4P method he was referring to or any P4P method at all for that matter. So I suppose it is possible he was talking about joiner fees at the hotel even in the case of taking a girl there he met on ThaiFriendly or at the mall who is not expecting to get paid directly for sex at all.
I would simply ask him those questions in order to shake out the vagueness of his post and gain clarity but I fear infringing on his personal bias on such definitions merely to cater to my own extreme conclusion desires.
Grandaddy Perp
09-12-17, 08:36
Can any "expert" explain to me what really differentiates something like Honey Bee Massage, which offers a full range of services including baths, nuru, and full service vs. A "soapy" like Annies? It seems soapy's only benefit is more selection (fishbowls + models). Other than that, it seems a place like Honey Bee Massage offer similar packages. What makes it a massage parlor vs. A soapy?
And an additional question regarding a service description at Honey Bee. There full service package says: "The price is All Inclusive (with a happy ending massage and full service massage)". Does this mean you get two shots (BJ in beginning and full service at end? Or are they just implying FS at the end.The general idea is the same. Offer massage services but it's all just a front for sex. This new expansive massage menu gimmick that the newer shops use is a way to set prices for various options but when you go to the shop they more or less present it as either HJ. BJ - FS with each having a different price level. Of course they also have all inclusive options that are supposed to mean multiple shots but I've found that majority of the ladies are not as eager to do so and will not make an effort to go the extra mile like the old school MPs. If you want more than one you have to be a little pushy and make sure you tell them upfront.
The service itself is also not PSE or even GFE in most cases. Its often quite clinical but YMMV.
The ladies working at the new shops do tend to be a little younger and there are a few cuties but not enough to make up for the difference in experience.
Can any "expert" explain to me what really differentiates something like Honey Bee Massage, which offers a full range of services including baths, nuru, and full service vs. A "soapy" like Annies? It seems soapy's only benefit is more selection (fishbowls + models). Other than that, it seems a place like Honey Bee Massage offer similar packages. What makes it a massage parlor ...The difference between a Soapy and an Oily is perfextly blurred by Annies, hardly a true traditional Soapy.
True Annies has the famous Soapy style aquarium filled with ladies, but no it is wrong. In a true soapy you should be able ti view ladies behind the glass for as long as you like, or view sideline ladies seated on couches. In Annies the girls are called to the line uo more briefly just like in an Oily MP.
Soapies have large bedrooms with a large bath. Annies has small cramped rooms like an Oily.
In a large scale soapy you can sit and eat possibly with a girl for somw time before going to a room. Not in Oilies or Annies.
In soapies the girl wastes a lot if time cleaning you in the bath. This is unlikely in an Oily. In annies I am not sure.
Most Soapies don't provide much of a massage unless you chose a girl from the Booran ancient healing amssage section.
A lot of oilies these days can provide a soapy bath or body slide experience so the differences dim.
The difference between a Soapy and an Oily is perfextly blurred by Annies, hardly a true traditional Soapy.
True Annies has the famous Soapy style aquarium filled with ladies, but no it is wrong. In a true soapy you should be able ti view ladies behind the glass for as long as you like, or view sideline ladies seated on couches. In Annies the girls are called to the line uo more briefly just like in an Oily MP.Can any experts recommend a nice fishbowl location (unlike Annie's) where there isn't a rush (like the old lady manager at Annie's). A fishbow with a decent amount of ladies in them? I'd like to sit and enjoy the view before I make a selection. I'm sure others will agree that's part of the fun right?
Member #4591
09-13-17, 02:01
Can any experts recommend a nice fishbowl location (unlike Annie's) where there isn't a rush (like the old lady manager at Annie's). A fishbow with a decent amount of ladies in them? I'd like to sit and enjoy the view before I make a selection. I'm sure others will agree that's part of the fun right?Head up to Ratchada. There are not really fishbowls anymore but many of the shops such as Merci have a lounge to sit and relax with a drink while you think and decide who and what to take. Annie's has such a small lobby, that is the main reason you are pushed to choose. Next time, try sitting at the small bar and order a drink.
What I've noticed about the different places is that the girls must sit contently in the viewing area (fish bowl) at all the soapies / massage places. Sit straight up like ladies. On the other hand, the Annie's girls are aloud to sleep, watch TV, eat, or do whatever. When a customer is seen coming up the stairs, the downstairs guy rings the buzzer and they all rush to go sit in the fish bowl. This is another main reason it seems yiu are hurried to choose.
Member #4591
09-13-17, 02:50
I typically do this every 2 months when I can take a day or 2 off from work. This time the binge started at 1:30 AM on Tuesday morning.
Headed over to T-Det on Saphan Kwai. They are supposed to close at 2 AM but they turn the outside lights off and continue to oeprate. On this night there were about 30 girls. I chose WA Wa. This girl has worked in Hong Kong before in those hotels where punters can visit for 600 HKD (3,000 Baht) a pop. Her English was quite good so we got along nicely. Beautiful ass, blond dyed hair and nice bolt ONS. We flirted a little over beer and frenchfries and left about 3 AM. For others, the place was still going strong but you never know, on any given night the army or police will swoop in and force them to close. Back in the room she was a little shy. She told me it was because she was drunk. In HK, she never had to drink so she was not used to it and it was taking its toll. This started to worry me because in Sephan Kwai you must pay the bar the full fee. There is no bar fine and the lady gets all the money unless she wants to share some with the momason who introduced her to you. 2,500. Anyways, after her shower she came around and we had a very good session. Lots of positions and a good BBBJ. She had such a beautiful ass. 200 Baht taxi and I sent her on her way. She would have stayed the night but I had to wake up for a quick meeting at 7. There were good signs of a second pop in the morning if others are interested. This depends on the girl and YMMV. The girls can change here on any given day and they don't have numbers. So it's a crap shoot of who you will see on any given day. I like this.
Woke up at 7, showered and headed to my meeting. Finished, went to IHOP at Siam Paragon to refuel and headed for a massage. First, I went to check out Soi 24/1. It was dead at 12:00 noon. Only a few shops with girls but nothing caught my eye. I rounded the corner onto to Soi 26 and into SW. I must say, I was actually disgusted with the 7 girl line up. Not one girl was doable in my books. Next stop Soi 24. Only one shop was open, Mango. I did not venture inside since the 2 girls out front were horribly ugly. I then moved onto to Som's Heaven. It was almost 2. I just now realized they open at exactly 2 PM and before then, the next door restaurant uses the area for extra tables for their customers. The one thing I never like about this place is the walk of shame past all the eaters and tourists. I always look down the Soi 1st to see if I can spot any talent or my regular. This day I could not. Next time I will ask if I can use their back entrance as It would really make my life easier. At this point I was starting to give up on the idea of a massage so I headed to Soi 4 for a drink in hopes of pulling someone from one of the many beer bars. Alas, all I ended up with was heartburn from my Bacardi breezer. All the girls were old hags. Headed over to Soi 7 to check out the beer garden. Yes folks, the Soi 7 beer garden is still going strong. Next door everything is demolished but they some how have avoided being shut down. However, I wish they would because there was absolutely nothing doable inside. Onto Soi 7/1. Also nothing doable at Eden or wood bar or the other 2 noname shops. Arrived at Chrome bar to find only 4 ladies. I really felt like relaxing so opted for a Nauru in the VIP room with Fah, 2 hours for 3000 Baht. The room was ok with a bed, shower, and area for the mattress and nuru massage. Oh boy, can this girl talk. Nice little spinner body, bolt on tits but she does does not stop talking. Gentlemen, if you see her, don't let her know if you can speak Thai. Anyways, I pushed forward and finally got to the main event. The sex was quite good with multiple positions and ended with the two of us cumming together as I stimulated her clit while fucking her in miss. At this point I was exhausted from all the walking and more from her talking. She went on about everything, her cheating boyfriend, old job, parents, child, everything. Anyways, so we cleaned and and over to the bed for the last hour. I asked for a massage. Then as she talked and talked and talked I tuned her out and just enjoyed the massage for the last hour. She gave me another BBBJ too.
Next off to recharge my batteries again so I went for a beef pie and mashed over on Soi 23. Once finished, headed in CH. By this time It was about 7 PM. That's right, it's open that early guys. There were about 7 ladies on stage. I prefer this because the calm before the storm is much easier to navigate. There was a little short spinner on stage, her name was Oom. She came over and introduced her self on the way out of the change room fully naked! She did not even put her number on. I kept thinking I lucked out. My plan was to get her out of there before the madness begins so she wouldn't get distracted by all the other punters, dancing, LD, and annoying servers and Moma sons. Bought her 2 LDs and agreed 5 LT from the now 8 PM to 4 AM the next morning. I picked her early so I didn't complain. Let's just say the next 7 hours was pure bliss. Full on PSE / GFE o holds barred action. Lots of DFK, dirty talk, and BB action. Nice see cup tits that looked real but she said we're not. She really enjoys DATY and I couldn't Resort licking her non stop. After 3 pops, I let her go around 3. A little early but I couldn't do anymore, I was spent.
Member #4591
09-13-17, 02:58
Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.There are 3 main areas, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong. Situate your hotel between Soi 4 and Soi 23. Do one night at Soi Cowboy and another at Nana or switch it up each night by spending a few hours at each location. If I were young the 1st. On the first day, do 1ST at each and then choose a LT from either location to close your night. Repaeat again on the second day. In the past, imahabe often gone back and forth between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy 2-3 times. They are really not that far apart and can be gotten to by motorcycle taxi very quickly.
NamasteParis
09-13-17, 09:07
Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?Hi, you are new to this forum, and maybe you are new to how to use a forum too. If you read the last 2 or 3 pages of this forum, you'll get the answer. A little homework will give you great knowledge from others experience.
Damn, I've been getting ripped off then. I have been meeting girls in the streets, then walking into the nearest bar and handing the mamasan there 700 baht.You have been getting ripped off, I only give 500 baht to the nearest food cart lady.
Member #4591
09-13-17, 20:58
Many people have been talking about this and discussing whether or not it's a good way to meet girl for P4 P. Most talk about trying to set things up before you come to Bangkok. Well this works for the non P4 P girls, but what about the FLs? Frankly, most won't entertain a discussion with you until your on the ground. So for the FL girls, just message them 1 hour before. A premium membership is a must to eliminate the 10 minute wait time between messages and you will have access to the most popular girls that get too many messages. Anyways, here's my experience from tonight. Searched ladies 18-24 in Bangkok after midnight. Here's how the conversation went:
A. Where are you now?
B. My room.
A. Do you want to come my room?
B. How much will you give me?
A. How much do you want?
Be. 2,500 Baht ST.
A. Ok.
B. When do you want to see me?
A. Now.
B. Where do you stay?
30 minutes later, little 20 year old Da Da was in my bed. What a site. She brought her university uniform to model for me. What a true GFE. Multiple positions, very vocal, a lot of DFK, and no mention of a cover. Natural C cups, beautiful tanned skin, decent English skills, just a real sweetheart. We banged for a good 90 minutes. She rode cowgirl like a champ and she's multi orgasmic so for those of you who think TF is a waste of time, please remember these main points.
1. Search in the late evening.
2. Buy premium.
3. Be direct and polite.
4. Send messages to profiles without long profile notes. The P4 P girls will not bother writing anything of substance. Mine tonight wrote:
Who is interested in this student?
Photo from her TF profile attached.
If any well respected senior would like her contact, I'd be happy to oblige. If you don't post on the Thailand forum, then forget it.
I downloaded an app to learn some Thai phrases. Related to mongering of course, and was having some fun putting them together. Of course I know I'll get flamed for this but, please feel free to correct as much as you can, because it'll be fun to converse to some degree in Thai for negotiations. The pronunciations are simply how I PERSONALY was trying to sound out the word and not a literal spelling or pronunciation.
Yeow Way-Lah (Long Time).
San Way-Lah (Short Time).
Ch-eye (Yes).
My (No).
Sahn fan Baht (Two thousand Baht).
Sahn fan ha rye Baht (Two thousand five hundred Baht).
Som fan Baht (Three thousand Baht).
Som fan ha rye Baht (Three thousand five hundred Baht).
Ribid na-an (Blow Job).
Thung Yang (Condom).
Room fee Thang ta-wan knock (Anal Sex).
Ma (Come / Cum).
Ma Nigh Pak (Cum in mouth).
Leah [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) (Lick pussy).
Gon Sa-weck kwam cry (Orgasm).
Krang ning (Once).
Song krang (Twice).
Member #4591
09-13-17, 21:15
I downloaded an app to learn some Thai phrases. Related to mongering of course, and was having some fun putting them together. Of course I know I'll get flamed for this but, please feel free to correct as much as you can, because it'll be fun to converse to some degree in Thai for negotiations. The pronunciations are simply how I PERSONALY was trying to sound out the word and not a literal spelling or pronunciation.
Yeow Way-Lah (Long Time).
San Way-Lah (Short Time).
Ch-eye (Yes).
My (No).
Sahn fan Baht (Two thousand Baht).
Sahn fan ha rye Baht (Two thousand five hundred Baht).
Som fan Baht (Three thousand Baht)..Syggs will be all over this. Be patient and he will help you out by correcting some of it. He is the resident Thai expert. You should check out his under blog in the bottom section too.
Syggs will be all over this. Be patient and he will help you out by correcting some of it. He is the resident Thai expert. You should check out his under blog in the bottom section too.Ah. Cool, thanks!
Member #4493
09-14-17, 00:39
Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.Star of light is a must see.
Blanquiceleste
09-14-17, 01:30
so for those of you who think TF is a waste of time, please remember these main points.Great report Dog. I recently visited Pattaya and over a 8 day period had 3 girls I interacted with on TF come over. Each of them were very good and I paid between 1000 to 1500. I had a free account though and the only pain is to wait for a long time between messages. But I usually move the conversation to Line in the first two messages. And I am patient.
I completely agree that TF can be a goldmine if you push the right buttons.
I downloaded an app to learn some Thai phrases. Related to mongering of course, and was having some fun putting them together. Of course I know I'll get flamed for this but, please feel free to correct as much as you can, because it'll be fun to converse to some degree in Thai for negotiations. The pronunciations are simply how I PERSONALY was trying to sound out the word and not a literal spelling or pronunciation..You're not going to go far with this.
As an example a long period of time would be used by the word naan. A short period of time would be mai naan. The word thousand starts with the letter p and would sound something like prann.
I've never heard the word you used for blow job, one easy way would be to say eat here by using the words keen thee nee and pointing to your tool. The same would apply if you want to eat her.
To put the condom on would be sai thoong, and CIM would be set sai paak. Anal sex would be ao toot, once is krang nung.
All these are already written in Sizigy's blog on this site.
My advice for anyone trying to learn Thai is to learn with a real teacher first for 20 hours to understand the very important basics and then you can learn by yourself.
I doubt that anyone could understand you if you start learning by yourself.
Franciscass
09-14-17, 07:29
On my recent rounds I've been chatting with the girls on the variety of services they provide.
Although knowing their earnings will increase in line with what they are willing to include in their profile all said there were some services they would never give, anal CIM BBFS among the more frequent no numbers.
Understandable and nothing strange there but more interesting was a service that a lot agreed they provide but really disliked giving. DFK and customers who insist on sticking their tongue in their mouth are among their greatest turn offs.
In fact I found no girl who said she actually enjoyed it but agreed GFE was expected by a lot of customers and so they go along with it.
It reminded me of a film from way back maybe it was Klute where a working girl played by Jane Fonda said she never kisses a John explaining it was too intimate. You can fuck me, I'll blow you but sorry no kissing it's too intimate.
I love kissing but only with my regulars. If I'm with a new girl and she kisses me I respond but more often than not quickly quit as it's not adding any real pleasure to the session.
Crocodilexp
09-14-17, 07:41
The pronunciations are simply how I PERSONALY was trying to sound out the word and not a literal spelling or pronunciation.
With all due respect, may well have written them in Cyrillic. I've seen some bad transliterations in my time, but this takes the cake: "sahn" for 2 and "som" for 3, "fan" for 1000, really? Better not bother posting this, lest someone try to use it.
I downloaded an app to learn some Thai phrases. Related to mongering of course, and was having some fun putting them together. Of course I know I'll get flamed for this but, please feel free to correct as much as you can, because it'll be fun to converse to some degree in Thai for negotiations. The pronunciations are simply how I PERSONALY was trying to sound out the word and not a literal spelling or pronunciation.
Yeow Way-Lah (Long Time).
San Way-Lah (Short Time).
Ch-eye (Yes).
My (No).
Sahn fan Baht (Two thousand Baht).
Sahn fan ha rye Baht (Two thousand five hundred Baht).
Som fan Baht (Three thousand Baht).
Som fan ha rye Baht (Three thousand five hundred Baht).
Ribid na-an (Blow Job).
Thung Yang (Condom).
Room fee Thang ta-wan knock (Anal Sex).
Ma (Come / Cum).
Ma Nigh Pak (Cum in mouth).
Leah (Lick pussy).
Gon Sa-weck kwam cry (Orgasm).
Krang ning (Once).
Song krang (Twice).Ha ha. You fucked up a few of them. Yeow means to take a leak, yao means long. Adjectives have to come after the noun.
Maa means to come to a place or person but certainly does not mean to cum. That does not work at all.
Use 'set' for cum as it literally means to finish.
I don't understand your anal sex one at all. Nor the blow job one.
Better get a bargirl to teach you the dirty stuff instead of inventing yourself.
Tamarind29
09-14-17, 19:18
Champ you are a machine man.
Loved reading your entire show, thanks!
I typically do this every 2 months when I can take a day or 2 off from work. This time the binge started at 1:30 AM on Tuesday morning.
Headed over to T-Det on Saphan Kwai. They are supposed to close at 2 AM but they turn the outside lights off and continue to oeprate. On this night there were about 30 girls. I chose WA Wa. This girl has worked in Hong Kong before in those hotels where punters can visit for 600 HKD (3,000 Baht) a pop. Her English was quite good so we got along nicely. Beautiful ass, blond dyed hair and nice bolt ONS. We flirted a little over beer and frenchfries and left about 3 AM. For others, the place was still going strong but you never know, on any given night the army or police will swoop in and force them to close. Back in the room she was a little shy. She told me it was because she was drunk. In HK, she never had to drink so she was not used to it and it was taking its toll. This started to worry me because in Sephan Kwai you must pay the bar the full fee. There is no bar fine and the lady gets all the money unless she wants to share some with the momason who introduced her to you. 2,500. Anyways, after her shower she came around and we had a very good session. Lots of positions and a good BBBJ. She had such a beautiful ass. 200 Baht taxi and I sent her on her way. She would have stayed the night but I had to wake up for a quick meeting at 7. There were good signs of a second pop in the morning if others are interested. This depends on the girl and YMMV. The girls can change here on any given day and they don't have numbers. So it's a crap shoot of who you will see on any given day. I like this.
Woke up at 7, showered and headed to my meeting. Finished, went to IHOP at Siam Paragon to refuel and headed for a massage. First, I went to check out Soi 24/1. It was dead at 12:00 noon. Only a few shops with girls but nothing caught my eye. I rounded the corner onto to Soi 26 and into SW. I must say, I was actually disgusted with the 7 girl line up. Not one girl was doable in my books. Next stop Soi 24. Only one shop was open, Mango. I did not venture inside since the 2 girls out front were horribly ugly. I then moved onto to Som's Heaven. It was almost 2. I just now realized they open at exactly 2 PM and before then, the next door restaurant uses the area for extra tables for their customers. The one thing I never like about this place is the walk of shame past all the eaters and tourists. I always look down the Soi 1st to see if I can spot any talent or my regular. This day I could not. Next time I will ask if I can use their back entrance as It would really make my life easier. At this point I was starting to give up on the idea of a massage so I headed to Soi 4 for a drink in hopes of pulling someone from one of the many beer bars. Alas, all I ended up with was heartburn from my Bacardi breezer. All the girls were old hags. Headed over to Soi 7 to check out the beer garden. Yes folks, the Soi 7 beer garden is still going strong. Next door everything is demolished but they some how have avoided being shut down. However, I wish they would because there was absolutely nothing doable inside. Onto Soi 7/1. Also nothing doable at Eden or wood bar or the other 2 noname shops. Arrived at Chrome bar to find only 4 ladies. I really felt like relaxing so opted for a Nauru in the VIP room with Fah, 2 hours for 3000 Baht. The room was ok with a bed, shower, and area for the mattress and nuru massage. Oh boy, can this girl talk. Nice little spinner body, bolt on tits but she does does not stop talking. Gentlemen, if you see her, don't let her know if you can speak Thai. Anyways, I pushed forward and finally got to the main event. The sex was quite good with multiple positions and ended with the two of us cumming together as I stimulated her clit while fucking her in miss. At this point I was exhausted from all the walking and more from her talking. She went on about everything, her cheating boyfriend, old job, parents, child, everything. Anyways, so we cleaned and and over to the bed for the last hour. I asked for a massage. Then as she talked and talked and talked I tuned her out and just enjoyed the massage for the last hour. She gave me another BBBJ too.
Next off to recharge my batteries again so I went for a beef pie and mashed over on Soi 23. Once finished, headed in CH. By this time It was about 7 PM. That's right, it's open that early guys. There were about 7 ladies on stage. I prefer this because the calm before the storm is much easier to navigate. There was a little short spinner on stage, her name was Oom. She came over and introduced her self on the way out of the change room fully naked! She did not even put her number on. I kept thinking I lucked out. My plan was to get her out of there before the madness begins so she wouldn't get distracted by all the other punters, dancing, LD, and annoying servers and Moma sons. Bought her 2 LDs and agreed 5 LT from the now 8 PM to 4 AM the next morning. I picked her early so I didn't complain. Let's just say the next 7 hours was pure bliss. Full on PSE / GFE o holds barred action. Lots of DFK, dirty talk, and BB action. Nice see cup tits that looked real but she said we're not. She really enjoys DATY and I couldn't Resort licking her non stop. After 3 pops, I let her go around 3. A little early but I couldn't do anymore, I was spent.
If I'm with a new girl and she kisses me I respond but more often than not quickly quit as it's not adding any real pleasure to the session.If DFK is not on the menu, it's kind of a deal killer for me. I think it is an essential part of a good session. Sadly so many Thai gal are just not that crazy about sex in the first place. Your report of many not liking to kiss is not surprising. They are also extremely "jizzphobic" as well.
If DFK is not on the menu, it's kind of a deal killer for me. I think it is an essential part of a good session. I try to make it a rule to never DFK any working girl. These girls don't exactly have the cleanest mouths. That reminds me of something I found a bit surprising one time I went to Akane massage on soi 33. For those who do not know, Akane is a sex massage place where the girls specialize in sticking their tongue up every man's ass who comes in there and giving all of their customers an excellent and thorough rimming. It's just understood that is standard and part of the massage at that place. I had just finished a session with a nice girl who spent a good majority of the session with her tongue up my ass. As I was walking out, I spotted my favorite girl there who had been busy earlier, so I stopped to chat with her a bit. After we finished chatting I paid the bill and turned around to see the girl I had just had the session with sitting on the couch with an overweight Indian guy. They were engaged in DFK on the couch. Suffice it to say, I had a good chuckle as I exited the establishment.
Grandaddy Perp
09-15-17, 11:39
I try to make it a rule to never DFK any working girl. These girls don't exactly have the cleanest mouths. That reminds me of something I found a bit surprising one time I went to Akane massage on soi 33. For those who do not know, Akane is a sex massage place where the girls specialize in sticking their tongue up every man's ass who comes in there and giving all of their customers an excellent and thorough rimming. It's just understood that is standard and part of the massage at that place. I had just finished a session with a nice girl who spent a good majority of the session with her tongue up my ass. As I was walking out, I spotted my favorite girl there who had been busy earlier, so I stopped to chat with her a bit. After we finished chatting I paid the bill and turned around to see the girl I had just had the session with sitting on the couch with an overweight Indian guy. They were engaged in DFK on the couch. Suffice it to say, I had a good chuckle as I exited the establishment.This is also why I don't do rimming.
I know a couple of long time mongers and both have the herp of the bum because of this.
Mumbai Guy
09-15-17, 12:47
I typically do this every 2 months when I can take a day or 2 off from work. This time the binge started at 1:30 AM on Tuesday morning.
.Great report BkkDog. You are a marathon man. To do 5 pops in such a short span is unthinkable for me. If I ever manage to do that I would be out cold for the next couple of days. Hahaha.
Playboy2001
09-15-17, 12:49
I try to make it a rule to never DFK any working girl. These girls don't exactly have the cleanest mouths. That reminds me of something I found a bit surprising one time I went to Akane massage on soi 33. For those who do not know, Akane is a sex massage place where the girls specialize in sticking their tongue up every man's ass who comes in there and giving all of their customers an excellent and thorough rimming. It's just understood that is standard and part of the massage at that place. I had just finished a session with a nice girl who spent a good majority of the session with her tongue up my ass. As I was walking out, I spotted my favorite girl there who had been busy earlier, so I stopped to chat with her a bit. After we finished chatting I paid the bill and turned around to see the girl I had just had the session with sitting on the couch with an overweight Indian guy. They were engaged in DFK on the couch. Suffice it to say, I had a good chuckle as I exited the establishment.I. thought they use mouthwash soution prior and after the session?
I try to make it a rule to never DFK any working girl. These girls don't exactly have the cleanest mouths. That reminds me of something I found a bit surprising one time I went to Akane massage on soi 33. For those who do not know, Akane is a sex massage place where the girls specialize in sticking their tongue up every man's ass who comes in there and giving all of their customers an excellent and thorough rimming. It's just understood that is standard and part of the massage at that place. I had just finished a session with a nice girl who spent a good majority of the session with her tongue up my ass. As I was walking out, I spotted my favorite girl there who had been busy earlier, so I stopped to chat with her a bit. After we finished chatting I paid the bill and turned around to see the girl I had just had the session with sitting on the couch with an overweight Indian guy. They were engaged in DFK on the couch. Suffice it to say, I had a good chuckle as I exited the establishment.Did you chuckle again the next time she licked the tip of your dick or deep into your ass and likely deposited a fresh dollop of overweight Indian guy saliva there? Hehe.
Pipe Layer99
09-15-17, 13:45
Did you chuckle again the next time she licked the tip of your dick or deep into your ass and likely deposited a fresh dollop of overweight Indian guy saliva there? Hehe.Things that make you go hmmm. Both of you guys, and Goat, have great points.
Reminds me, I need to buy some more Listerine for the girls. I generally don't kiss them either, but I still like them the smell fresh. LOL.
Thanks bkkdog, where is ratchada? I see it's a massage soapie, but is it in sukhumvit? I always thought Bkk was known for the fishbowl experience... its sad there's only one left?
Head up to Ratchada. There are not really fishbowls anymore but many of the shops such as Merci have a lounge to sit and relax with a drink while you think and decide who and what to take. Annie's has such a small lobby, that is the main reason you are pushed to choose. Next time, try sitting at the small bar and order a drink.
What I've noticed about the different places is that the girls must sit contently in the viewing area (fish bowl) at all the soapies / massage places. Sit straight up like ladies. On the other hand, the Annie's girls are aloud to sleep, watch TV, eat, or do whatever. When a customer is seen coming up the stairs, the downstairs guy rings the buzzer and they all rush to go sit in the fish bowl. This is another main reason it seems yiu are hurried to choose.
Did you chuckle again the next time she licked the tip of your dick or deep into your ass and likely deposited a fresh dollop of overweight Indian guy saliva there? Hehe.Doesn't seem nearly as personal as a mouthful of another guy's ass.
Member #4591
09-15-17, 17:20
Thanks bkkdog, where is ratchada? I see it's a massage soapie, but is it in sukhumvit? I always thought Bkk was known for the fishbowl experience... its sad there's only one left?Ratchada is a road in Bangkok with many massage shops. They are very big. Some with fish bowls but with no glass. And some with. Others just have the ladies sitting on chairs such as Ocean massage. Also Rama 9 just around the corner past Central Rama 9.
I try to make it a rule to never DFK any working girl. These girls don't exactly have the cleanest mouths. That reminds me of something I found a bit surprising one time I went to Akane massage on soi 33. For those who do not know, Akane is a sex massage place where the girls specialize in sticking their tongue up every man's ass who comes in there and giving all of their customers an excellent and thorough rimming. It's just understood that is standard and part of the massage at that place. I had just finished a session with a nice girl who spent a good majority of the session with her tongue up my ass. As I was walking out, I spotted my favorite girl there who had been busy earlier, so I stopped to chat with her a bit. After we finished chatting I paid the bill and turned around to see the girl I had just had the session with sitting on the couch with an overweight Indian guy. They were engaged in DFK on the couch. Suffice it to say, I had a good chuckle as I exited the establishment.Quick shower and a shot of mouthwash and she's good as new. Might as well be a virgin.
For those who do not know, Akane is a sex massage place where the girls specialize in sticking their tongue up every man's ass who comes in there and giving all of their customers an excellent and thorough rimming. It's just understood that is standard and part of the massage at that place. I had just finished a session with a nice girl who spent a good majority of the session with her tongue up my ass.FWIW and no first hand experience, but this place also has Rimming (HJ, BJ, Rimming) on the services menu: http://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/services/.
SL.
Pipe Layer99
09-16-17, 14:49
FYI. Tax hike set for tomorrow. Anyone living here and for those that will be here for another few weeks might want to consider going out to get your favorite drinks for your condo or guest house before midnight. I just went to my go-to place for Whiskey and wine, and they told me about the rate increase effective tomorrow. Tax rate will be 430 baht per litre. It's not going to break the bank, but for guys here for long terms, you can save some money.
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/national/new-tax-rates-cigarettes-alcohol-not-good/
For my fist come back in 20 years in Bangkok I got a fairly good deal.
But in fact I don't know if must be happy or shameful.
Body: 6.
Face: 6.
Attitude: 5.
Age 23.
Quality / price: 12.
Dommage: 500 bath ST.
I meet this semi pro freelancer in soi nana and in fact I didnot have money to spend. She ask me for 1000ST I tell I didnot have this monney she look a bit desesperate and she propose me 500.
As I not really want to go I begin to negotiate BBBJ: ok Rimjob: OK DATY: OK come with facial ok the deal was near perfect but with the ST room the price was too much for me today but ultimately she propose to me to use her room so I cannot refuse anymore.
The attitude was far of perfect because she was not very happy with her deal but in the end she do a little reluctantely everything she promised but this ti.
As the end she tell me she work like this only sometimes but today she need 4000 bath before Monday evening.
So this very unbalanced negociation between she who must accpet everything and me who in fact not wanted to go give this weird deal.
Grandaddy Perp
09-17-17, 05:32
FYI. Tax hike set for tomorrow. Anyone living here and for those that will be here for another few weeks might want to consider going out to get your favorite drinks for your condo or guest house before midnight. I just went to my go-to place for Whiskey and wine, and they told me about the rate increase effective tomorrow. Tax rate will be 430 baht per litre. It's not going to break the bank, but for guys here for long terms, you can save some money.
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/national/new-tax-rates-cigarettes-alcohol-not-good/Interesting to see if this sticks and how it will effect the nightlife scene. Whenever they seem to issue an extreme provision such as this, it usually doesn't stick but then again street food stalls have been disappearing city wide.
Hello,
As a frequent time visitor of Bangkok, I am looking for something different this time. I have been to Annies, Mango, Emmanuel and some of the other massage places near Soi 11 and 24, but always disappointed by the quality of women or the lack of GFE. Can anyone recommend a higher class experiences and / or a new experience. Maybe tantric, prostate massage. I have done nuru, but not the biggest fan. I will be traveling with coworkers, so can't venture too far outside the city. No shady locations please. Hoping for something close to BTS. Maybe something like the Japanese places? Would greatly appreciates any information. And will make sure to give back and what I find.
U1.
Member #4591
09-17-17, 06:48
For my fist come back in 20 years in Bangkok I got a fairly good deal.
But in fact I don't know if must be happy or shameful.
Body: 6.
Face: 6.
Attitude: 5.
Age 23.
Quality / price: 12.
Dommage: 500 bath ST..First of all, I would post under your normal user ID. You obviously have some reason for creating a new user ID which I think is really not permitted if admin finds out. Secondly, I would be ashamed if I were you. [Deleted by Admin]
First of all, I would post under your normal user ID. You obviously have some reason for creating a new user ID which I think is really not permitted if admin finds out. Secondly, I would be ashamed if I were you. Anyways, the way your post is worded, you are already a memeber under another username and of Indian origin if I had to guess. No wonder Indians get a bad name.Yes shameful to negotiate all these extras and still for 500. LOL.
I agree it is very hard to believe that someone would start like this for a first post, but slightly possible.
I agree and disagree. Based on what he wrote, the girl was so desperate as to do it for 500. Perhaps she was such a low standard that normal guys like us who pay more, would not even take her. If she was any good obviously I feel sorry for her and pay a lot more. I would indeed be ashamed to have paid so little and definitely not proud. If Indian is correct, then they clearly have a different culture to us.
At least 500 gives the option to pay very low if she is terrible or useless which does happen with FLs.
In the end, he helped her get some money, but so little, took advantage of the poor thing. I do recall once a fattish older woman on the street late at night calling to me that she would suck and fuck me for 500 (hard to remember fine details but I think her opening line was "Haa Roy" to get my attention), but I did not accept. Just wasn't close to my type at all. To me, fucking an ugly is just a waste of time, money and sperm. Better to conserve all 3. However I am so fussy I am not even repeating any Snow White, Tulip, or Mango girls any more. Just haven't found one pretty enough recently, even if the service was pretty good. So I must have a brain warped by the visuals.
My attitude is more likely to be something like: "give me a wonderful time for 1000, and will book you 4 times before Monday so you will have the full 4000" LOL However this possibly underestimates how ugly or plain looking she might be. Surely a good looking girl would not be so desperate. If she was moderate looking, and not fat, I might try. He did not mention if she had a train wreck belly or deflated bag tits, or anything much about the body. Face and body 6. Could mean acceptable or could be a 3 on my scale.
First of all, I would post under your normal user ID. You obviously have some reason for creating a new user ID which I think is really not permitted if admin finds out. Secondly, I would be ashamed if I were you. Anyways, the way your post is worded, you are already a memeber under another username and of Indian origin if I had to guess. No wonder Indians get a bad name.And a shameful post, too. Feeeling embarrassed for the girl having to accept this deal be because of need. And she was in need, for sure. Otherwise why accept 500?
Member #4591
09-17-17, 15:30
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Jimmy Boy 99
09-17-17, 16:37
First of all, I would post under your normal user ID. You obviously have some reason for creating a new user ID which I think is really not permitted if admin finds out. Secondly, I would be ashamed if I were you. Anyways, the way your post is worded, you are already a memeber under another username and of Indian origin if I had to guess. No wonder Indians get a bad name.I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.
Snip. I meet this semi pro freelancer in soi nana and in fact I didnot have money to spend. She ask me for 1000ST I tell I didnot have this monney she look a bit desesperate and she propose me 500.
As I not really want to go I begin to negotiate BBBJ: ok Rimjob: OK DATY: OK come with facial ok the deal was near perfect but with the ST room the price was too much for me today but ultimately she propose to me to use her room so I cannot refuse anymore. Snip.
So this very unbalanced negociation between she who must accpet everything and me who in fact not wanted to go give this weird deal.You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.
Member #4591
09-17-17, 18:02
I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.
You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.It is his first post but he posts like he is already a member and knows everything. It's obvious.[Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin] Most members here do not wish to take advantage of the ladies in this manner. He can't walk away and say no? Anyways, you're entitled to your opinion and so am I.
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I know Thailand because I was married with a Thai wife between 1992 & 1999 a girl from Korat.
I know Internationalsexguide because I read the forum some month before then post.
I not post there because in my 18 days here I take only a girl in Phuket the first day.
(a bar girl 28 year.
Face 5 body 6 attitude 8.
I pay she 1000 LT but I eat 3 time with she barfine 300 lady drink 120 and altogether I spend 2000 on her.
CBJ because I not say it before no DFK no rimjob but I pass a very good time with she).
I thinked about posting a report but I not do it.
I suppose that if I was Indian my mastering of the english must be lot of cooler then what I wrote here.
I am not Indian but French.
Sedenya is the name of red moon goddess in the role playing game world of glorantha.
Role playing is a typical farang activities.
You go very speedly to judge.
I must have spended 4 time 1000 bath.
But you not take account of the fact that I did not simply have the money.
My budget allowed me an average clearance of 750 bath by day.
I spend 2000 on a girl my first day because I dreamed to have a good time so I make my dream happen.
But it damaged really my budget I go in Surat thani I sleep in a 100 bath dormitory for give my budget I and the rail.
So I have so few money why I come to Thailand?
Simply because I have a fucking better time here then in Europe.
I eat every day in restaurant some of the best food in the world (it is my opinion about Thai food).
I got in Phuket a room 297 by night with a wonderful swimming pool.
I fuck two girl in 3 week lot more then what can be expected for a 55 year old retired as me.
I love Thailand.
I abused of a poor little thing?
Maybe about the extra. But the 500 bath ST was freely contracted between her & me (as the extra).
In fact spend this 500 was not a good idea for me so I not intend to go.
Why I not simply say no? Because she was young and if my head say no my dick say yes!
Useless information?
This forum is full of report from people who have lot money to throw up the window.
So a low budget report cannot be useless.
I am somewhat ashamed because I will be happy to give her more money if I had it.
But in the end if she take the deal is because she thought better to have then not have it.
I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.
You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.I agree with you on this one Jimmy Boy and there was no need for name calling. She could have refused but chose to accept his offer and to her credit provided the services promised. Regarding taking advantage of working girls, what about the massage shops and other venues that have daily charges for working there, make them pay for all supplies and levy fines for being late, leaving early or taking a day off for any reason and forcing them to sit there for 12-14 hours with no base salary. Many of the go go bars that do provide a base salary set a high drink and bar fine quotas and if the lady fails to meet the quota penalize her by deducting money from her salary in addition to a fine for being late or missing a day. I think this is a bigger issue that affects all of us.
Indy Hundred
09-18-17, 01:30
I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.
You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.Spot on Jimmy Boy 99. I don't know how BKK jumped to the Indian conclusion so quickly.
It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. This is a public forum. If I have an experience, I will share it. If it helps somebody, great. But when Senior Members, who are very passionate about this hobby, start making xenophobic comments and ridiculing a members budget, well that just seems silly to me. We are all entitled to different opinions and we are all entitled to enjoy this hobby the way we want to.
Franciscass
09-18-17, 04:38
The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.
Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.
His arguing that he had no choice didn't want to go with her and what he did was really just to help her is nonsense. If that was his motivation just give her 200 baht and wish her good luck. I feel he took unfair advantage of her.
When it comes down to it visitors with only 500 baht in his pocket should not be out looking for the kind of sex he was after.
I do however agree that ascribing a particular ethnicity to him was presumptuous.
Playboy2001
09-18-17, 06:32
Spot on Jimmy Boy 99. I don't know how BKK jumped to the Indian conclusion so quickly.
It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. This is a public forum. If I have an experience, I will share it. If it helps somebody, great. But when Senior Members, who are very passionate about this hobby, start making xenophobic comments and ridiculing a members budget, well that just seems silly to me. We are all entitled to different opinions and we are all entitled to enjoy this hobby the way we want to.The report has been edited by Moderator and can't see the original comments what is being referred here.
The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.
Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.
His arguing that he had no choice didn't want to go with her and what he did was really just to help her is nonsense. If that was his motivation just give her 200 baht and wish her good luck. I feel he took unfair advantage of her.
When it comes down to it visitors with only 500 baht in his pocket should not be out looking for the kind of sex he was after.
I do however agree that ascribing a particular ethnicity to him was presumptuous.I never say I go with she for help her. I go with she for have my ball drained.
I not pay more because it was not in my capacities.
500 bath was a very very very low (and shameful) tarif? Maybe I not read well but I think I read somewhere that you can find this tarif in some blowjob bar in Pattaya.
I do believe to it was an acceptable tarif.
Girls from Bar / Club to Freelance Thai.
This kind of girl is often difficult to identify as she normally hangs out in bars and clubs just like everyone else and clearly has no label to let you know she is working. However, they are often more dressed than girls without work and show what they have.
Price: 500-2000 Baht for a short time and 2000-2500 Baht for a long time. Plus if you go to the bars and high end clubs. The good thing about freelance girls is that there is no fine bar, but there is some risk as they are totally self-employed and you do not know what they have in their head if they are about to leave the city. " source french -thailand redcat.com.
I was somewhat ashamed of my self because of the extra (rimjob mainly) at that time my intent was to find some good reason for not go but she want absolutely the deal.
500 was her proposal not mine and as I can find no reasonable reason for say no (from my point of view) my dick say yes at that time.
500 bath is 15 usd live here is at least 5 time less expansive that in western Europe so 15 dollars in Thailand is like 75 dollar in western Europe if about purchasing power.
In Europe find a street hooker for 50 dollar short time is somewhat easy.
I not intend to say I am white knight and I pay very well.
I intend to say I pay in the low part of the fork not outside of it it was no surprising there.
It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. I think your blood boils a little too easily. Guys post plenty of annoying provocative exaggerated things on here. Stay cool man.
Don't expect only nice posts.
The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.
Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.
His arguing that he had no choice didn't want to go with her and what he did was really just to help her is nonsense. If that was his motivation just give her 200 baht and wish her good luck. I feel he took unfair advantage of her.
When it comes down to it visitors with only 500 baht in his pocket should not be out looking for the kind of sex he was after.
I do however agree that ascribing a particular ethnicity to him was presumptuous.How much does a thai man pay at thai only places? Isn't it a lot less then what foreigners pay? Is 500 baht not a common price for some places that are thai only? I don't know, so asking, not stating as fact.
Crocodilexp
09-18-17, 08:38
The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.
Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.
May I remind you that a huge proportion of Thais make the minimum wage of 300 baht PER DAY. That's 8 hours of honest, hard work. While 500 baht is under the going rate for sex workers (in most venues), it is NOT a trivial or insulting amount in Thailand for an hour's work.
Up until 2014 or so, 500 baht was the going rate on Beach Road in Pattaya. It is still roughly what girls make per session in low-end venues (streetwalkers in Khlong Lot and Yaowarat, soapy massage in Sao Botan). Even in the well-known PSE Oilies like Tulip or Snow White, the girls don't make that much more per hour: if entire 1500 "girl fee" actually goes to the girl for the 2 h session (not sure whether it does), she makes 750 for a full hour, with multiple pops, A+, rimming and all.
If a girl willingly agrees to 500 baht, or even 300 baht, nobody is taking advantage of her. Same as if a punter a agrees to 5000 baht, nobody is taking advantage of him, there's no coercion involved.
As for circumstances being desperate, there are many Thais far more worthy of sympathy than the working girls who can easily pull the 2-3 x daily wage compared to others with the same qualifications.
Member #4591
09-18-17, 09:05
I think your blood boils a little too easily. Guys post plenty of annoying provocative exaggerated things on here. Stay cool man.
Don't expect only nice posts.Ya man. I agree. It's not worth it.
Franciscass
09-18-17, 09:42
Yes 500 baht is more than some workers make in Bangkok. So what, that is not the issue here.
This guy sets out with 500 baht in his pocket, looking for a "BBBJ Rimjob DATY come with facial session" without having even the price of the short time room. That's the issue.
My position is there is an acceptable price for working in 7-11 and an acceptable price for what he wanted. They are not the same and he fell far short of what he should have paid namely the 1000 baht she asked for.
Obviously from the posts some members believe this to be perfectly acceptable may even applaud his finding somebody for 500 baht arguing that there was no coercion and she made more than working a shift at 7-11.
While respecting different points of view, I'm sorry but I find what he did was exploitative and he took advantage of the desperation of a 23 year old.
My advice to the gentleman in question is put it back in your trousers for a few days, save your daily allowance and pay whatever girl you go with a fair and reasonable fee for her time.
May I remind you that a huge proportion of Thais make the minimum wage of 300 baht PER DAY. That's 8 hours of honest, hard work. While 500 baht is under the going rate for sex workers (in most venues), it is NOT a trivial or insulting amount in Thailand for an hour's work..A year ago I was having a walk on Sukhumvit soi 77 and a security guard started talking with me as I walked in front of the small office building he was working in. The guy was nice and I had some time so I stopped and had a small chat with him. He was from Khon Khaen and was 36 year old. We talked about pretty much every thing and when the discussion went about girls, he told me he goes in the Suanluang area, takes one street walker for 200 bahts and pays 80 bahts for the ST room and he could do this only very few times in a month as his monthly salary was very low. And for guys that thinks 500 baht is nothing in Thailand, that man was renting a room nearby for 1000 bahts a month.
Grandaddy Perp
09-18-17, 11:18
Spot on Jimmy Boy 99. I don't know how BKK jumped to the Indian conclusion so quickly.
It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. This is a public forum. If I have an experience, I will share it. If it helps somebody, great. But when Senior Members, who are very passionate about this hobby, start making xenophobic comments and ridiculing a members budget, well that just seems silly to me. We are all entitled to different opinions and we are all entitled to enjoy this hobby the way we want to.I also agree. I've noticed that BKKDOG tends to be a little more on the ornery side but I also tend to find this type of lively character to be commonly seen on forums that cater to foreigners who visit Thailand for the companionship scene. The anonymity of the internet does certain things to people's social filter but it often adds a bit of color if not taken seriously.
As far as the 500 baht goes, I'm quite shocked that its an issue, especially among this lot. It could be argued that the majority of the women working in this industry are doing so because of socio-economic pressures that are specific to Thailand. There is known [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) at play behind the scenes and just because you pay 2,000, 3,000, or 1000, you really don't know where that money is going. A large portion of that could be going toward nefarious entities, to feed a drug habit, or to pay for a child's education. So the lady keeps at it in order to satisfy these needs and to actually make some money for herself in the process. I read how guys are distraught that their favorite anal queen is not longer giving up her bum or that their lady didn't do a BBBJ / CIM so obviously there is a certain level of hypocrisy at play here.
On the other hand, it can also be argued that the majority are in this line of work because in the grand scheme of things its actually quite easy (especially given today's standards) and they can make serious bank. And while I think that 500 baht is below the minimum going rate, its not that bad when you consider that it was probably less than an hour's worth of effort on her part and she would have been able to get right back out there and find another customer. As someone else mentioned, there are ladies, especially among the FL crowd, that would have a difficult time pulling more than 500 baht. His numbers don't necessarily fit the description but YMMV.
On a more positive note, I do commend the gentlemen who do think that 500 is too low. If this were a Pattaya thread I think you'd have multiple posts asking for this ladies contact details.
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My position is there is an acceptable price for working in 7-11 and an acceptable price for what he wanted. They are not the same and he fell far short of what he should have paid namely the 1000 baht she asked for.
Let the people involved decide what is acceptable for themselves. Maybe the woman desperately needed the 500 baht.
Yes 500 baht is more than some workers make in Bangkok. So what, that is not the issue here.
...While respecting different points of view, I'm sorry but I find what he did was exploitative and he took advantage of the desperation of a 23 year old...I disagree. This is a free and competitive system at work.
One time in Pattaya, I wanted to take a FL after lunch and when I asked her how much she wanted, she replied 500. It turned out she was a bit older and she mentioned that she was out there since 11 am and I was her first customer, around 2 pm. Then, I understood why she was shooting so low. She was GND in looks but had a fine body. I was so impressed later with her performance that I gave her another 500 bahts tip.
Indy Hundred
09-19-17, 06:01
I think your blood boils a little too easily. Guys post plenty of annoying provocative exaggerated things on here. Stay cool man.
Don't expect only nice posts.Thank you. With over 10,000 posts to your name, I think you have seen plenty of annoying provocative and exaggerated things. Your advice is well received.
The "brings my blood to boil" comment was a direct reference to BKKDOGs comment which has since been modified by Admin.
My position is there is an acceptable price for working in 7-11 and an acceptable price for what he wanted. They are not the same and he fell far short of what he should have paid namely the 1000 baht she asked for.
Obviously from the posts some members believe this to be perfectly acceptable may even applaud his finding somebody for 500 baht arguing that there was no coercion and she made more than working a shift at 7-11.IMO it is all relative. I take my points of comparison from my home (USA) market, 7-11 (minimum wage) shift work, and a buddy who plays the low end US Backpage game:
Thailand: minimum wage 300 baht, practical daily wage 500 baht.
USA: minimum wage ($8. 25 x 8) = $66, practical daily wage ($10.00 x 8) = $80.
He gets FS P4 P in the $80 range all the time, especially when he repeats, after establishing he is not LE and a decent guy. These are not crack hoe's either just not the creme of the crop. The difference in Thailand is you get more time and activities for your money, which is kind of true at all price levels.
SL.
Yes 500 baht is more than some workers make in Bangkok. So what, that is not the issue here.
This guy sets out with 500 baht in his pocket, looking for a "BBBJ Rimjob DATY come with facial session" without having even the price of the short time room. That's the issue.
My position is there is an acceptable price for working in 7-11 and an acceptable price for what he wanted. They are not the same and he fell far short of what he should have paid namely the 1000 baht she asked for.
Obviously from the posts some members believe this to be perfectly acceptable may even applaud his finding somebody for 500 baht arguing that there was no coercion and she made more than working a shift at 7-11.
While respecting different points of view, I'm sorry but I find what he did was exploitative and he took advantage of the desperation of a 23 year old.
My advice to the gentleman in question is put it back in your trousers for a few days, save your daily allowance and pay whatever girl you go with a fair and reasonable fee for her time.If you want an example of exploitation lets start with the massage shops. No salary, commission and tips only so no customers, no income and they have to sit there for 10-12 hours a day. Add in the 200 baht a day they have to pay the shop for the privilege of working there plus transportation costs and they can easily be in the hole for 400-500 baht. I know ladies that have gone 4 days without a customer and ended up paying out 2000 baht for 48 hours of their time. Thats exploitation.
LittleBigMan
09-20-17, 06:05
If you want an example of exploitation lets start with the massage shops. No salary, commission and tips only so no customers, no income and they have to sit there for 10-12 hours a day. Add in the 200 baht a day they have to pay the shop for the privilege of working there plus transportation costs and they can easily be in the hole for 400-500 baht. I know ladies that have gone 4 days without a customer and ended up paying out 2000 baht for 48 hours of their time. Thats exploitation.Not saying it doesn't happen?
I can't speak for Bangkok, but do venture to two regular shops whenever I'm visiting. I've lived in Pattaya for over 10 years in which I do know from my experience knowing a number of massage owners and even more workers. Over ten years, I religiously do 3 or more Thai / Foot massage a week without missing a beat.
In all those years never heard from any Thai working under those conditions? Usually, the workers get a 50/50 take on the massage and keep all the tips. Never have I heard a worker having to pay a shop to work to be able to work in one. The only time I've heard workers paying are girls working in Beer Bar on salary which when they don't just show up have to pay a fine, even if it happen I can understand why a employer would place such a rule since workers are notorious for just not showing up, and if you are trying to run a business and a worker just decides not to show up how long is that business going to last? As for a massage shop I've heard it happen if a customers wants to take the girl somewhere for the day, the massage loses the worker therefore I understand if they want some compensation.
I've not seen any massage worker not having a choice to leave the shop because they don't like the condition. Having to pay their own transportation is common in general everywhere in the world. If girls are working a shop with no customers for days unless force happened to have made the wrong choice.
TunningRob
09-20-17, 07:44
My link works if you remove the space after 'http://www.pattayatalk.com/' when you have copy pasted it. I could not write the link in one line because the forum software messed it up.
Your picture is quite small but I would say she is just a normal dancer and not a coyote. But like I said: sometimes the lines are blurred.I've been browsing through pattypatty.com and to be honest, it's more informative than any other website. What kind of action can I come across in Thai? I've heard that everything is amazing in such places.
Franciscass
09-20-17, 08:51
If you want an example of exploitation lets start with the massage shops. No salary, commission and tips only so no customers, no income and they have to sit there for 10-12 hours a day. Add in the 200 baht a day they have to pay the shop for the privilege of working there plus transportation costs and they can easily be in the hole for 400-500 baht. I know ladies that have gone 4 days without a customer and ended up paying out 2000 baht for 48 hours of their time. Thats exploitation.I wasn't aware that girls paid a fee to work to the shop.
At so called oilies when the total fee is paid upfront they get the P4 P portion usually 1500 sometimes less. Where the massage fee is separate from the session fee usually the shop keeps all of the massage fee while the girl is paid separately by the customer.
As to what constitutes exploitation, this is difficult to define and entirely subjective. As evidenced by the earlier conversation on the guy who paid 500 Baht some thought this was perfectly acceptable, market forces, comparison to minimum wage rates, freedom of choice etc being used to justify what he did while some like myself thought otherwise.
At the end of the day it comes down to an individual's values, what one believes are the norms for common decency and here there are no absolutes.
Not saying it doesn't happen?
I can't speak for Bangkok, but do venture to two regular shops whenever I'm visiting. I've lived in Pattaya for over 10 years in which I do know from my experience knowing a number of massage owners and even more workers. Over ten years, I religiously do 3 or more Thai / Foot massage a week without missing a beat.
In all those years never heard from any Thai working under those conditions? Usually, the workers get a 50/50 take on the massage and keep all the tips. Never have I heard a worker having to pay a shop to work to be able to work in one. The only time I've heard workers paying are girls working in Beer Bar on salary which when they don't just show up have to pay a fine, even if it happen I can understand why a employer would place such a rule since workers are notorious for just not showing up, and if you are trying to run a business and a worker just decides not to show up how long is that business going to last? As for a massage shop I've heard it happen if a customers wants to take the girl somewhere for the day, the massage loses the worker therefore I understand if they want some compensation.
I've not seen any massage worker not having a choice to leave the shop because they don't like the condition. Having to pay their own transportation is common in general everywhere in the world. If girls are working a shop with no customers for days unless force happened to have made the wrong choice.I'm not talking about shops where you go to get a traditional Thai massage or a foot massage like Healthland. I'm talking about Tulip, Mango, SW and similar shops that provide sex which is the focal point of this site.
Here is what is expected of ladies working at Tulip massage. 200 baht fee to the shop every day plus an additional 200 for each customer. The shop charges 1900/1 hour and 2300/2 hours. 1500 of that is for the service minus the 200 customer fee. That leaves 1300 for the lady and essentially they get no more for working 2 hours than 1. For an outcall (2 hours) the charge is 3000 with 1000 to the shop and 2000 to the lady. If they miss a day its a 3000 fine during the week and 5000 on the weekend. If they are late or want to go home early its 1000. They pay for all the supplies such as condoms, tissues, soap, lube and oils. They work 1 pm-midnight or 10 am to 11 pm and cannot leave the shop for any reason. Food has to be delivered to the shop or purchased by the mae baan. The really unattractive and undisciplined ladies get weeded out quickly because they make little or no money. However, for the attractive, disciplined and skilled ladies with repeat customers the job can pay well and that is why they put up with these conditions. Some can make 120-130 k each month but I suspect the average is far lower. The go go bars which pay a salary have a different set of rules but are also quite mercenary in controlling the ladies via fines and quotas.
Wander Luster
09-21-17, 00:55
A. Where are you now?
B. My room.
A. Do you want to come my room?
B. How much will you give me?
A. How much do you want?
Be. 2,500 Baht ST.
A. Ok.
B. When do you want to see me?
A. Now.
B. Where do you stay?
30 minutes later, little 20 year old Da Da was in my bed. What a site. She brought her university uniform to model for me. What a true GFE. Multiple positions, very vocal, a lot of DFK, and no mention of a cover. Natural C cups, beautiful tanned skin, decent English skills, just a real sweetheart. We banged for a good 90 minutes. She rode cowgirl like a champ and she's multi orgasmic so for those of you who think TF is a waste of time, please remember these main points.
Forgive me for reading this quickly. I live in Saigon and am American running a "location independent" company.
And as an aside, anyone that wants to talk to me, I'll tell you 110% the scene here in Saigon if you can intro me to some hot FL in BKK.
I like you're style and description of experience. Most of the girls I bone here are not FL, and I don't want to insult them by "presuming" on tinder or a date site that they are. 2-3 dates and the girls here may blow you're mind, BUT the are not same same as BKK. Here it's not so much about p4 p, although that is no tough if you know where to go.
How do you break the ice to see if they are into P4 P? I'm coming in 2 months and need to start talking to girls in BKK online. What's the best way to find the truly FL girls that have a day job WITHOUT insulting those that just want to date: I really don't like to disrespect women.
Thanks,
WL.
LittleBigMan
09-21-17, 02:04
I'm not talking about shops where you go to get a traditional Thai massage or a foot massage like Healthland. I'm talking about Tulip, Mango, SW and similar shops that provide sex which is the focal point of this site.
Here is what is expected of ladies working at Tulip massage. 200 baht fee to the shop every day plus an additional 200 for each customer. The shop charges 1900/1 hour and 2300/2 hours. 1500 of that is for the service minus the 200 customer fee. That leaves 1300 for the lady and essentially they get no more for working 2 hours than 1. For an outcall (2 hours) the charge is 3000 with 1000 to the shop and 2000 to the lady. If they miss a day its a 3000 fine during the week and 5000 on the weekend. If they are late or want to go home early its 1000. They pay for all the supplies such as condoms, tissues, soap, lube and oils. They work 1 pm-midnight or 10 am to 11 pm and cannot leave the shop for any reason. Food has to be delivered to the shop or purchased by the mae baan. The really unattractive and undisciplined ladies get weeded out quickly because they make little or no money. However, for the attractive, disciplined and skilled ladies with repeat customers the job can pay well and that is why they put up with these conditions. Some can make 120-130 k each month but I suspect the average is far lower. The go go bars which pay a salary have a different set of rules but are also quite mercenary in controlling the ladies via fines and quotas.Point well taken not taking any particular side but these women have a choice. Since you sight Tulip, in the past I've known a few girls personally all have left the business but they do have choices. The shop imposes these rules strict as they maybe so they can run a business. They have to have control over the staff so they can staff a business thus serve their customers this is the same as a Go Go. From my experience Thai girls not saying their reasons aren't important but are notorious for not showing up for work or even calling. It happens but saying it is mercenary is a bit of a stretch? If you were a owner knowing full well girls are coming and going freely to a point you have no idea who is working on a given day what would you do?
Believe if you will, it is not so ridiculous, and I don't bother to make up stories.
First I decided to go to Emmanuelle looking for Yok B01. I had first done her approx. 2008. Big natural tits. Rather quirky girl, likes alcohol a lot, once went to the Emmanuelle Christmas party with her (many years ago). She dances good.
Yok doesn't work any more. Possibly mid to late 30's. Sells stuff now they say. I should have taken her a few months ago last opportunity. Anyhow I was considering a dark skinned older B course girl (body massage) when I spotted S06 absolutely stunning face for me. When she stood up I could see was skinny (perfect for me). Naked in the bath she was simply stunning. Faai was the most beautiful girl (my taste) I had been with sexually in a long time. Very slim legs but ass still had plenty of meat for padding. A cups natural no sag. Face perfect. A nose job but so subtle as undetectable. An extremely good one. Normally I can pick nose jobs but not this one. I truly did not know.
Faai had one parent from Chiang Rai, giving her light skin and one from Kalasin (Issan). She was just stunning for me and could not find a fault when nude.
However aged 21. She claimed 3 years experience, but seemed to have learned nothing. Kissing not allowed on the mouth. In the bath did nothing sexy at all. Like no bath skills. On the bed, I gave her DATY and she built to orgasm in medium time, not very slow at all. I was only semi hard. Not that long since my last really great fuck (with a regular). Normally I rely on sexy kissing to get me up, but she is not kissing so I requested a BJ. She shook her head. No. Her hand on my dick was extremely unskilful and not working. I had to slowly wank myself up while fingering her pussy (which was resisted somewhat) to get it up and get a condom on. Her pussy was pretty tight and I had some difficulties due to starting off not rock hard after getting the condom on. In the end I did not get it working perfectly and no cum. Later she admitted that she can do CBJ. Why didn't she say that in first place. So gave a moderate CBJ scores just 5 out of 10 if generous.
Overall assessment: The most stunning girl I have fucked for a while (my skinny taste). Face very beautiful. Small tits but nice. Pretty pussy. Enjoyable DATY. Skills very poor for supposedly 3 years experience. Perhaps other guys can enjoy her despite lack of a GFE. Maybe I would have been rock hard if no recent fucks. Repeat: Unlikely. Price 3700 wasted. Crazy yes! Beauty does not guarantee skills. She probably appreciates small dick and was surprised a Farang chose her. Soapy girl told me that making her cum, caused her to be excessively lazy. How would I know that in advance?
I decided to go to Soi Cowboy and went in Sharks. I was surprised Pat was available as was getting up to 11 PM. Another guy gave her a 100 Baht tip while she was dancing which made me fear competition, but apparently he was well known to extent he may have had something to do with the management or a very long term regular customer.
Pat worked at Suzie Wong for 3 years and so was aware I was a regular of her sister Knot. Knot (I spell it my own way LOL) has settled down with a boyfriend and not doing P4 P any more. I suggested to Pat that perhaps she could take her sister's place and she was okay With that. So bought her a drink and BFed her before her next dance set came around. Her price was not discussed. Some Japanese customers had been interested in her, but apparently they BF her less than Farangs do. Maybe they know she is a mother and does not have the tightest pussy in the place, or skin a bit tanned, or just not delicate enough. In fact she can take bigger dick well. I see Japanese BFing a lot of LBs in the modern day. LOL and taking them to Asoke Place ST Hotel to fuck on the sly.
Pat kissed quite nicely so I knew a GFE could be had. So took Pat for ST. Very nice session. All the kissing I needed, and very nice BBBJ too. She responded very positively to the DATY. Maybe her pussy is a bit too accommodating for some guys but very pretty. She was very nice in the shower to make me feel special, helping to wash me like in the best MPs. Did not get to BJ in the shower but otherwise excellent. Great BBBJ on the bed scores at least 7. I got to realise that although her tits are enhanced and very heavy indeed, they are very soft on top, so it is very hard to detect any silicone deep down other then the sheer weight of her D cups. The softest tit job I ever found. She had pretty good tits before they were enhanced. So now her tits still bounce around, shimmer and jiggle just like 100% real tits. Just that they are very big. I am not normally a tit man but can enjoy big soft heavy tits.
So everything was very good and I loved the soft feel of the pussy. Finished in doggy position. I was slow but no complaints at all. On the way back I was undecided what to do. She suggested we go into Suzie Wong (the dead bar) and shout a drink for Yao, a waitress I have known since early 2000's. I am a nice guy so I agreed. Cannot hurt. I only know well 3 staff members in Suzie W remaining, make it 4 when Oar (waitress) showed up along with mamasan Tuktaa, and waitresses Yao and Joy. I ended up ordering tequilas all round for girls I knew and myself and Pat had a beer. Expensive. Pat was not making specially big money herself, but she had the good heart to go help out her old friends in a quiet Suzie W bar. I even bought a drink for Yao's husband who used to work in Sheba many years back when they had good rock music in there.
Not only that, but Pat had skilfully honed in on my weakness. She kept on giving me the very best tongue kisses that puts me into the mood to have fun and enjoy. I never met other girls that found my weakness so quickly. Hence in the end, I spent far more money than otherwise intended. Would not do for a budget.
Pat knows exactly how to get me with the DFK kissing, which is excellent despite her braces, and her enhanced but very soft bouncy big tits are amazing to play with. I did not notice any baby stretch marks but if you need extra tight pussy, I would advise against Pat. Otherwise she can be a great GFE, (even better kissing than her sister was in former times). I knew she manipulating me through super kissing but I could not want it to stop.
Pat has no problems to meet her monthly drinks and BF quota, as is popular. Salary at Sharks 18000 per month which I thought was excellent. This is why they have some good looking girls. Pat is a very skilful bargirl in that she understands about trying to give the customer the best time possible which makes the customer like me, happy to spend more than normal. I asked Pat how many BFs she can do per night. She admitted to being lazy and content with only 1 or two occasionally. She says she prefers to have fun rather than be diligent like another former Suzie W girl was who had several STs per night. Pat also pointed out that if she gives energy to the sex session, she might start to get lazy, especially after a cum. So Pat is only in Sharks 3 weeks, not yet a super star, as only a few of her old Suzie customers know where to find her.
After exiting Suzie W where several staff had been made happy, Pat was diligent to escort me to my taxi. Don't recall many girls who seek to look after the customer so well. I will be missing her tongue, pretty pussy, and heavy Dcups.
What a contrast between the stunning but crap service Soapy girl and the moderately good looking bargirl with big bazookas who concentrated on doing her utmost to make the customer happy. I don't often find a great Soapy girl, but fluke a good value one occasionally (not today).
Pat was as good as her older sister on the bed, but even better for the kissing. I can see how she hooks her regulars. Add 1 to my very short regular girls list.
Sorry if my English is a bit off. I got slightly inebriated in Suzie after the fuck. Not so much that I can't type reasonably O.K., so only slight. Maybe can detect repetition of thoughts.
Sorry no clue if Pat does ass fucking or multiple shots. Probably unlikely. I did not even ask if she does CIM, as I prefer pussy. Its all about GFE. I try to be good for the girl and she tries to be as good as she can for me.
Dangerous these girls who try to send the customer into bliss. Equally good or better service girls do exist in the MPs, but hard to find with equivalent face and body looks. I just try to be very fair. An MP fuck is cheaper because I don't go into party mode, just not many memorable MP visits over the last year.Is this Faai the girl you are talking about? She works at emannuelle but when I saw her, her number was S24. But she has pretty much the same specs you said, and also 1 parent from Chiang Rai and 1 from Issaan.
Point well taken not taking any particular side but these women have a choice. Since you sight Tulip, in the past I've known a few girls personally all have left the business but they do have choices. The shop imposes these rules strict as they maybe so they can run a business. They have to have control over the staff so they can staff a business thus serve their customers this is the same as a Go Go. From my experience Thai girls not saying their reasons aren't important but are notorious for not showing up for work or even calling. It happens but saying it is mercenary is a bit of a stretch? If you were a owner knowing full well girls are coming and going freely to a point you have no idea who is working on a given day what would you do?Mercenary in the context of still charging the 3000 or 5000 baht per day rate when a lady has just received a call that her son has been blinded in a fireworks accident or in another case the father had a serious fall and was undergoing brain surgery. Otherwise I understand the need to maintain control over the workforce.
XRatedBangkok
09-21-17, 16:39
Made my investigation to know which girl performs good DT in the high Sukhumvit BJ bars:
- Chinchin at Woodbar.
- Tik at Kasalong.
- Wa at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901).
I myself know Chinchin's performance which is really good, I know the 2 others by reputation.
Be sure to ring and check if they are working and available, as they have some random days off.
Soapy girl told me that making her cum, caused her to be excessively lazy. How would I know that in advance?In my opinion, when it comes to working girls, having them cum is a detriment. Isn't it almost always the case that they get lazy after they cum?
LittleBigMan
09-22-17, 01:01
Mercenary in the context of still charging the 3000 or 5000 baht per day rate when a lady has just received a call that her son has been blinded in a fireworks accident or in another case the father had a serious fall and was undergoing brain surgery. Otherwise I understand the need to maintain control over the workforce.Yes, in these cases as you noted are mercenary owned or managed, many Go Go I know the mamasan required some form of note or payment that they were at the hospital. In these cases, a employer who is that mercenary I would just not come back to be exploited. In cases of ladies not having customers for a number of days and get weeded out that is the market as customer who set it, as you know many are in more for the looks than the experience thus selecting looks first. In all cases they do have a choice to not work for the shop. Thanks good point.
I did try to send you a PM, to respond and continue my views as to not cloak or off track the thread but I guess you aren't a member or not taking messages?
Made my investigation to know which girl performs good DT in the high Sukhumvit BJ bars:
- Chinchin at Woodbar.
- Tik at Kasalong.
- Wa at.
I myself know Chinchin's performance which is really good, I know the 2 others by reputation.
Be sure to ring and check if they are working and available, as they have some random days off.Only one I have had was Tik. Truthfully a bit old for my liking and a bit big. Can DT, but is very toothy. Had to tell her to watch it several times. Would not repeat.
Hi guys,
Tried asking on a different, smaller forum but no luck. Does anyone have info on the following two girls? I'll be in Bangkok next month and these two caught my eye:
1. Cara - http://xclusivethai.com/models/40262..
2. Zara - https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok....ara- age-25-152.
I tried to search this thread but seems either these girls are new or no one's bothered to write anything about them yet. Appreciate any info you guys can provide.
Does anyone know if bars / night clubs / go go bars will be closed around the time of the late King's cremation scheduled for October 26? Or will Bangkok be open as normal?
Does anyone know if bars / night clubs / go go bars will be closed around the time of the late King's cremation scheduled for October 26? Or will Bangkok be open as normal?Haven't they put to poor bloke to rest yet? Thai people just love a ceremony.
Somewhere15
09-24-17, 00:25
Does anyone know if bars / night clubs / go go bars will be closed around the time of the late King's cremation scheduled for October 26? Or will Bangkok be open as normal?I guess it will be more days.
My friend who runs a business told me already a while ago that staff had a 5 days holiday (and with two weekends even 9 days). Their business is closed for 9 days because the country pays the last respect to their former King.
Christian G
09-24-17, 16:09
Hi guys,
Tried asking on a different, smaller forum but no luck. Does anyone have info on the following two girls? I'll be in Bangkok next month and these two caught my eye:
1. Cara - http://xclusivethai.com/models/40262..
2. Zara - https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok....ara- age-25-152.
I tried to search this thread but seems either these girls are new or no one's bothered to write anything about them yet. Appreciate any info you guys can provide. Here the thread for Escort Agency http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2454-Bangkok-Escort-Agencies.
In Bangkok for the last 2 days. Decided to call a Russian lady. I prefer 30 yrs 35 yrs. They are more comfortable with their bodies and know how to give and get pleasure. Besides they are not in a hurry.
She came to my room and gave me an excellent massage, using her elbows. Looks like she was trained by an expert Thai masseuse. Then she proceeded to take off my clothes and her own. Pushed me back on the bed and told me to let her do all the work I was happy to comply. Started with BBBJ and took me to a very pleasurable release. Was in no hurry to leave till I sent her away at midnight since I had an early morning meeting. Leaving today for Singapore.
Hope to be back in BKK next month.Where did you find her?
Member #4591
09-24-17, 18:00
Haven't they put to poor bloke to rest yet? Thai people just love a ceremony.Your comment is not that appropriate mate.
Member #4591
09-24-17, 18:02
Hi guys,
Tried asking on a different, smaller forum but no luck. Does anyone have info on the following two girls? I'll be in Bangkok next month and these two caught my eye:
1. Cara - http://xclusivethai.com/models/40262..
2. Zara - https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok....ara- age-25-152.
I tried to search this thread but seems either these girls are new or no one's bothered to write anything about them yet. Appreciate any info you guys can provide.If you had some patience, you would have seen some responses. I say one about Cara. Please go back to the original thread and you will see. Cheers.
Member #4591
09-24-17, 18:14
Does anyone know if bars / night clubs / go go bars will be closed around the time of the late King's cremation scheduled for October 26? Or will Bangkok be open as normal?
I guess it will be more days.
My friend who runs a business told me already a while ago that staff had a 5 days holiday (and with two weekends even 9 days). Their business is closed for 9 days because the country pays the last respect to their former King.
Oct 13 Friday Anniversary of the Death of King Bhumibol National holiday.
Oct 23 Monday Chulalongkorn Day National holiday.
Oct 26 Thursday Cremation of King Bhumibol National holiday.
Expect closures on these days. Do not listen to the people who say things will be shut down for 10 days. It was not even that long when he passed away. When the king passed away, closures were only a few days and when the bars reopened they were asked to shut down early and to keep noise levels down only.
Member #4591
09-25-17, 03:25
Oct 13 Friday Anniversary of the Death of King Bhumibol National holiday.
Oct 23 Monday Chulalongkorn Day National holiday.
Oct 26 Thursday Cremation of King Bhumibol National holiday.
Expect closures on these days. Do not listen to the people who say things will be shut down for 10 days. It was not even that long when he passed away. When the king passed away, closures were only a few days and when the bars reopened they were asked to shut down early and to keep noise levels down only.ENTERTAINMENT:
General translation of official statement from Thai Government News Website.
Thai government does not prohibit entertaining activities or events during The Royal cremation ceremonies in October except for the following:
The Prime Minister only mentioned that on 26th October – the day of the actual cremation that should consider the appropriateness; I. E. Live music in public area should be restrained.
During 21st – 25th October the entertainment activities should be scaled down.
Other activities / events such as weddings or alcohol serving should be managed in private venue within hotels. (more details on this later).
I'm just going to skip Thailand all of October to be safe. There are too many other good options to be worrying at all about any possible closures.
Landed bkk Saturday afternoon. Made through passport control no issues and exchanged some cash near baggage claim. Got 31.23 rate / usd. Took uber to my hotel for 375 baht. Didn't even bother dealing with the taxi mafia. Heavy traffic to hotel but uneventful. The hotel gave an exchange rate of 30. They told me about a place called super rich that exchanged 32.75 and is this the highest I've seen.
Later in the evening I went to nana plaza. Was raining not a huge crowds of people but still a fair amount. The clubs seemed dead (must be the rain). Girls were still posted up in the nana hotel parking lot next to hooters. Few above average sprinkled amongst mostly average looking workers. Finished my beer / food and went for a walk. From previous trips I remember girls being all along sukhumvit. As I passed, glancing down the side streets to see if there is anything of interest.
Somehow or another end up seeing the big red sign for a BJ bar at the end of chai saman alley (off soi sukhumvit 8). The post editor won't let me put the name of place. There's a name I remember but I've never been inside. One girl sitting outside with momma. 800 baht and she'd show me what's what. Pay go upstairs and I'd guess 6 or 7 little couch areas divided by (I guess) shower curtains. She lays down towel and baby wipes the soldier and goes to work. Good skill. 200 baht more (1000 total) and got CFS. She wouldn't entertain take out service but maybe have to be repeat customer. FS was just a few minutes until I stopped and went back to BBBJ. Finsihed CIM. I didn't feel rushed at all.
Sunday, strolled through soi cowboy about 230 pm and it was a ghost town. If a place had posted hours it was 6 pm - 1 am. A few opened at 7 pm. Eat / drink and end up at kasalong. Its actually next door to the place I went to earlier that had the big red sign. Just walk another 5 seconds and look around the corner of the building. Walk in and get a singha for 115 baht. Didn't pick anyone until I finished my beer. Chose emmy because she was the first to say something to me. Cute chubby little thing. 800 baht and her, I and beer go upstairs. She lays down towel, washes soldier. As she's washing I reach to touch vag and she moves away. Second attempt just to make sure and she moved again. Get to business and I ask her to remove top and she asks for tip. (girl at the other spot did it without me asking). So top still on she gives subpar BBBJ. She most certainly tried and we were there about 30 minutes (way over time). I finally just stopped and said let's go. Paid on my way out and tipped her the 85 baht change.
Back at soi cowboy at 645 ish and music lively and lots of people. Stroll through without stopping. Out the other end of the street (away from terminal 21) and turn left. Few minutes walk down the road is a place called sathiga massage. Chose foot massage (250 baht) from May. She asks if I wanted to get under dressed and offers towel and shower. I say yes to both. Asked her to remove the top and negotiation was all over the place. I laughed when at some point she threw out 2500. She kissed the boys while massaging soldier. Dayum that felt good, she says just a sample. Told her no more than 1000. Agreed on naked HJ. 30 but perfect looking breasts as if someone half her age. Rub and FIV and she really got wet and responsive. She moaned and road my finger while giving HJ. It probably wasn't 5 minutes and I was finished. LOL it was great. Am going to repeat with her before I leave Bangkok.
Sim card: at the airport I bought an ais sim card for 250 baht. Thai phone number, 7 days of unlimited data 4 g data for 249 baht. Downloaded an app called foxfi so I can tether my main phone. Are times when it's slow but after 2 days of use I say it works really well.
Social media: tinder, bumble and wechat have made things super easy. I'm getting WAY more contacts and offers than I'll be able to sample on just one trip. Messaged one from a year ago (that I hadn't met in person) and she offered to come to room for 700 baht.
I have pics to upload but it just told me they are too big. Will resize and upload later. So that's all for now. I'll be out seeing what I can see. If someone needs intel let me know and I will try to check on it before I leave.
If you had some patience, you would have seen some responses. I say one about Cara. Please go back to the original thread and you will see. Cheers.Thank you for the heads up. I wasn't aware someone had responded.
Is this Faai the girl you are talking about? She works at emannuelle but when I saw her, her number was S24. But she has pretty much the same specs you said, and also 1 parent from Chiang Rai and 1 from Issaan.She's cute! I may have to go by there next week.
JesseJames
09-26-17, 05:56
I went to Wood Bar last night. Bad vibes. They're all a bunch of [Deleted by Admin]. No smiles, hellos, goodbyes or any of that. The girl I chose was ok, but nothing special. I won't be going there again.
JesseJames
09-26-17, 06:00
I'm just going to skip Thailand all of October to be safe. There are too many other good options to be worrying at all about any possible closures.Makes sense not to be here in Oct. I'm getting out around 23 or 24 for a week.
Does anyone know if there are any Thai Holidays in March that would disable BKK for long periods of time? (I. E. A whole week off of work?
I went to Wood Bar last night. Bad vibes. They're all a bunch of bitches. No smiles, hellos, goodbyes or any of that. The girl I chose was ok, but nothing special. I won't be going there again.Same vibe I got last time I went, never a problem with the two practically next to each other! But unlike you I did not even give them a chance, I chose nobody both times they had stank attitude!
Does anyone know if there are any Thai Holidays in March that would disable BKK for long periods of time? (I. E. A whole week off of work?http://boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/index.htm
I went to Wood Bar last night. Bad vibes. They're all a bunch of bitches. No smiles, hellos, goodbyes or any of that. The girl I chose was ok, but nothing special. I won't be going there again.Same vibe I got last time I went, never a problem with the two practically next to each other! But unlike you I did not even give them a chance, I chose nobody both times they had stank attitude!
StLouisMo2010
09-26-17, 20:07
Forgive me for reading this quickly. I live in Saigon and am American running a "location independent" company.
And as an aside, anyone that wants to talk to me, I'll tell you 110% the scene here in Saigon if you can intro me to some hot FL in BKK.
I like you're style and description of experience. Most of the girls I bone here are not FL, and I don't want to insult them by "presuming" on tinder or a date site that they are. 2-3 dates and the girls here may blow you're mind, BUT the are not same same as BKK. Here it's not so much about p4 p, although that is no tough if you know where to go.
How do you break the ice to see if they are into P4 P? I'm coming in 2 months and need to start talking to girls in BKK online. What's the best way to find the truly FL girls that have a day job WITHOUT insulting those that just want to date: I really don't like to disrespect women.
Thanks,
WL.Sign up for Thai Friendly- you need Premium. Look at the pictures, it is not difficult to tell who is p4 p, use similar dialog as listed here on forum, many ladies have in their profile that they are 'looking for a serious relationship' I believe that is code for not interested in P4P, I don't think I have insulted any, but have offers and files for my upcoming trip (I think I have 25 files of ladies interested in less than a week). It seems quite simple.
SenatorDavis
09-27-17, 05:01
Landed bkk Saturday afternoon. Made through passport control no issues and exchanged some cash near baggage claim. Got 31.23 rate / usd. Took uber to my hotel for 375 baht. Didn't even bother dealing with the taxi mafia. Heavy traffic to hotel but uneventful. The hotel gave an exchange rate of 30. They told me about a place called super rich that exchanged 32.75 and is this the highest I've seen.
There is a SuperRich on the bottom level of BKK right before trains that usually has best rates. In fact, there are 2. There is also one at the Nana and Asok BTS stations. Just need your passport and some crisp bills. Don't take your dirty crumpled or worn bills there.
Gannaton48
09-27-17, 06:12
Sign up for Thai Friendly- you need Premium. Look at the pictures, it is not difficult to tell who is p4 p, use similar dialog as listed here on forum, many ladies have in their profile that they are 'looking for a serious relationship' I believe that is code for not interested in P4P, I don't think I have insulted any, but have offers and files for my upcoming trip (I think I have 25 files of ladies interested in less than a week). It seems quite simple.I have now about 6-7 week experience with TF and Thaicupid. Interestingly Thaicupid sounds more sexy but is not. I asked the same questions some weeks ago here and from my experience I can say, yes pics help (but still far from being a guarantee); what I notice is that girls who are on line in the late thai evening are more frequently P4 P, I guess they wait to be contacted immediately for dating. Just an idEA;.
Robert Long
09-27-17, 06:53
I went to Wood Bar last night. Bad vibes. They're all a bunch of bitches. No smiles, hellos, goodbyes or any of that. The girl I chose was ok, but nothing special. I won't be going there again.I've noticed that the whole block or Soi is like that. All Bitches. I guess that is the attitude you get when you suck cock for a living.
RL.
Grandaddy Perp
09-27-17, 07:05
many ladies have in their profile that they are 'looking for a serious relationship' I believe that is code for not interested in P4PSeems pretty straight forward to me.
Vast majority of the women on TF are not P4P anymore. It used to be THE online place for FLers before all of the apps like Line, Badoo, Tinder, and WeChat came along.
But yes, at the late hours, some pop on there to see what they can catch.
I tend to find that the P4P ladies on TF aren't worth the effort or the monthly fee. You're better off using WeChat, especially if you're staying around farang P4P central.
Member #4531
09-27-17, 08:09
Hello gents,
Long time lurker and now providing a couple of reports. Glad to finally contribute something.
MITU.
I visited Mitu last week. The entrance to Mitu is on the right side of 33/4 just like on the website. 4 pm visit on a Monday.
Front desk was manned by Thai lady and a man who did not have a Thai accent. Spoke good English, maybe Japanese. Both were very nice and welcoming and the man showed me an iPad with the available ladies. I was certain I read somewhere that the 75 minute wet massage was 3,000 B, but the price for wet massage was 3,300 B. This was my first nuru massage and I really, really wanted it. I told the man I thought the price used to be 3,000 B, but he politely insisted 3,300 B was the rate. That's a lot of money, but I agreed and selected Shiho from Chonburi, no kids, but bright blue contact lenses. J.
I was seated in a small area away from the desk with a TV and offered a bottle of water. After sitting for a minute, the man welcomed me through a door to meet Shiho. Very friendly and nice. OK English, but I spoke to her mostly in Thai. Up 3 flights of stairs to a large clean room with a nice size bed and a separate and large shower area with blow up mattress on the floor. Clothes off and she made the nuru gel and slathered it on the blow up mattress. She gave me a nice shower and let me touch, suck, and kiss everything during the shower. I was super excited at this point and I asked her for a BBBJ and she obliged. Her body is a 7 with a full butt which I like as it reminded me of my recently-split pinay GF. J Smaller chest and flat stomach.
Onto the blow up mattress face down and the rub begins. As this was my first nuru, I was in total heaven. OMG it felt so good. She had a small amount of pubic hair which was a little scratchy, but felt like it was exfoliating me. In a good way. It was everything I could do not to blow even without her actually touching my dick. Lots of ball and butt play which I like. She lifted my hips and gave me the best rim job ever. I put her on her back and rubbed and licked and kissed her from top to bottom. Lots of DFK and DATY which she didn't seem to be that into. Kind of surprised me because I'm pretty good at DATY. I requested condom and we started with mish. If you've never had a nuru, the slipping and sliding and skin contact during sex is so amazing. I flipped her for doggie and gave her a nice tongue bath from hole to hole. Started doggie and asked for A+, but she said "mai dai" so I pounded her doggie until I finished. Wow. So nice.
With plenty of time to spare, she rolled me on my stomach and put hot water on a towel and covered my upper legs. She massaged my legs through the hot towel like a proper massage which was kind of nice, but after a couple of minutes I wanted to go again. We moved to the regular bed and more DATY and a few other positions, but going 2 times with a condom is tough for me. I was very close to asking her if she's take 1,000 B to let me go BB, but that's not something I want to start doing – but very tempting so I could get a second shot. We lay together for a while and fooled around. As 75 minutes came to a close we rinsed off and headed downstairs. Kiss goodbye and I was offered ice cream buy the man as I left. J I did not tip because I just don't. Enough of you waste your money in tips I don't need to add to the expectation. My tip is that I will return to her again.
Linda's place.
I have been back and forth to Linda's on the ramp at Patpong 2 for several year now, but I've been away for 2 years and wanted to come back to check things out. As I live near Patpong and I am a cheap-ass, I appreciate the 1,000 B sessions I get there. For those of you who have never been to Linda's, it's up on the ramp of Patpong 2. Poorly lit, dirty, and they throw a pillow and small mattress on the floor in a little nook of the bar where the deed is done. However, the girls at Linda's Place are very hit and miss in terms of looks. I've always gotten a decent shag there, but most of the time the ladies are older and not very attractive. I used to have a regular girl there who was 19 and farm fresh with a stellar body, but quite homely. Occasionally, I hit young and pretty, but it's uncommon. Linda's Place holds a special place in my heart because it's the only location where I could do a 3 way and the girls didn't make me change condoms and one girl would eat out the other girl with me at the same time. But that's been several years ago.
However, last week I got lucky with Khun Aye and went back 2 days in a row. Each time I went she was the only girl working (but on the first visit when I left there were 4 girls outside waiting for customers). Khun Aye said she's 21 and had been there 3 months, but she must have experience from someplace else because she knew how to kiss and fuck really well. Cute, bubbly, pretty, and an incredible small and tight body. She has to be less than 100 pounds because I could pick her up and throw her into the air multiple times which made her giggle like crazy. I'm betting she won't be there long as she would make a fun girlfriend. Zero English, though. Everything had to be in Thai.
Aye threw down the old mattress and pillow and went to get her stuff. While I undressed, Mamasan poked her head in and in English said "You want blow job and boom-boom? 1,500 B. " I answered her in Thai that it's always 1,000 B. I guess she realized she wasn't dealing with a nervous tourist and went back to the bar. Later the old lady said her name was Linda, but I told her Linda was a grand-mother's name and she was too young to be named Linda. She liked this.
Aye and I had a very nice session each time. Decent BBBJ and pretty good overall FS. Her body is so tight and her hole so little I had to lube up a lot to get in her. Lots of DFK and DATY and me giving her rim job, too. I didn't request A+, but I will next time and see what she says. I'll probably ST her so we can fuck in a bit nicer environment where I won't get bedbugs from a filthy old mattress. I finished each time with me standing and holding her in my arms bouncing her up and down. Good leg workout at the same time. Paid directly to Aye and she cleaned up. Return? Of course. And I'm willing to take my chances on old and ugly girls to get lucky once in a while.
Christian G
09-27-17, 17:03
Landed bkk Saturday afternoon. Made through passport control no issues and exchanged some cash near baggage claim. Got 31.23 rate / usd. Took uber to my hotel for 375 baht. Didn't even bother dealing with the taxi mafia. Heavy traffic to hotel but uneventful. The hotel gave an exchange rate of 30. They told me about a place called super rich that exchanged 32.75 and is this the highest I've seen.
There is a SuperRich on the bottom level of BKK right before trains that usually has best rates. In fact, there are 2. There is also one at the Nana and Asok BTS stations. Just need your passport and some crisp bills. Don't take your dirty crumpled or worn bills there.You can find SuperRich, Value Plus and others also at Suvarnabhumi Airport. Floor B, next to the Airport Rail Link ticket office. Very good exchange rate.
I am a newbie and will be going to Thailand in 2 weeks, this thread has been really helpful and I would like to thank everyone who has shared their wonderful experience, I am from Indian origin and I know my people don't have a good reputation in many places.
Someone mentioned that Twister is a good and a friendly place, so I will surely try that. Any other recommendations for first timers?
Any idea how are the "Arab" ladies outside Grace hotel? Has anyone tried them? What about the CIS street hookers around that area?
Since the past 1 week I have been just reading and reading and I am kinda nervous about the whole thing. My hotel charges around 1000 bht as a joiner fee, so any recommendation about a good ST hotel near NANA?
Again Thank You and I will surely share my experience once I go and come back from Thailand.
TrueBlue666
09-28-17, 03:41
Last year, Angelwitch had some awesome dancers (actual shows, not the bargirl shufflers you expect at a gogo, though there were some of those, too) sexy outfits, and some decent lookers. It also had a mostly western clientele. One of their gals gave me one of the damn-near best nights of my life. Anyone been by lately? My own trip is rapidly approaching, so I'm curious to know if the place still has it or if it fell off. Cheers.
Ralph Kramden
09-28-17, 13:52
I am a newbie and will be going to Thailand in 2 weeks, this thread has been really helpful and I would like to thank everyone who has shared their wonderful experience, I am from Indian origin and I know my people don't have a good reputation in many places.
Someone mentioned that Twister is a good and a friendly place, so I will surely try that. Any other recommendations for first timers?
Any idea how are the "Arab" ladies outside Grace hotel? Has anyone tried them? What about the CIS street hookers around that area?
Since the past 1 week I have been just reading and reading and I am kinda nervous about the whole thing. My hotel charges around 1000 bht as a joiner fee, so any recommendation about a good ST hotel near NANA?
Again Thank You and I will surely share my experience once I go and come back from Thailand.I think Indians are welcome in almost all oily and soapy massage places in BKK. You might like the experience of choosing the girl you want from a selection My advice is to do like I do, which is to clean yourself up, wear decent clothes along with a smile, don't be pushy and go with the flow of the girl, which will result in a better experience.
I am a newbie and will be going to Thailand in 2 weeks, this thread has been really helpful and I would like to thank everyone who has shared their wonderful experience, I am from Indian origin and I know my people don't have a good reputation in many places.
Someone mentioned that Twister is a good and a friendly place, so I will surely try that. Any other recommendations for first timers?
Any idea how are the "Arab" ladies outside Grace hotel? Has anyone tried them? What about the CIS street hookers around that area?
Since the past 1 week I have been just reading and reading and I am kinda nervous about the whole thing. My hotel charges around 1000 bht as a joiner fee, so any recommendation about a good ST hotel near NANA?
Again Thank You and I will surely share my experience once I go and come back from Thailand.With so many girl friendly hotels around (almost all) why in the right mind would anybody stay at a place where they charge any joining fee never mind 1,000! Maybe I'm missing something.
Does anyone have a good list of Thai phrases to use with Thai girls easy enough for non Thai speakers?
With so many girl friendly hotels around (almost all) why in the right mind would anybody stay at a place where they charge any joining fee never mind 1,000! Maybe I'm missing something.Well my mom is a travel agent and she booked the hotel for me and as a mother she does not wants me to stay in a non guest friendly hotel, she didn't want me to go Thailand in the first place, but I got a very good deal for stopping over for 3 days in the same price of my tickets back from Hong Kong.
Member #4551
09-29-17, 12:57
Arrive tomorrow.
Absolutely blow away (excuse pun) with the notion of walking into a place, getting a beer, getting blown, cleaned up and then walking away happy. A couple of online articles have said that Farangs may not be welcome at some of these establishments.
Would like nice recos for places I can safely go to without being turned away.
P.S. I am a clean white looking, good looking Brit-Indian.
I am desperately wanting a blowjob at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) BJ bar and I am very concerned. I walked by there the other day and the girls seated outside all said "come inside!" I asked them "what kind of bar is this?" and they all replied in unison "BLOW JOB BAR!" all smiling. They grabbed my arms and tried to lead me inside and said "inside!" However, I am confused as to whether they would accept me since I recently read a post that farangs may not be welcome.
P.S. - I am clean (bathe at least once a month), white (depending on how long I have been in the sun), and a God damn good looking man (depending on lighting, not that I can always depend on that lighting).
Do you think I have a chance of getting a BJ there? This is truly a conundrum.
Thanks in advance.
Member #4551
09-29-17, 13:37
I walked by there the other day and the girls seated outside all said "come inside!" I asked them "what kind of bar is this?" and they all replied in unison "BLOW JOB BAR!" all smiling. They grabbed my arms and tried to lead me inside and said "inside!" However, I am confused as to whether they would accept me since I recently read a post that farangs may not be welcome.
P.S. - I am clean (bathe at least once a month), white (depending on how long I have been in the sun), and a God damn good looking man (depending on lighting, not that I can always depend on that lighting).
Do you think I have a chance of getting a BJ there? This is truly a conundrum.
Thanks in advance.I thought you were skipping Bangkok for the time being?
Does anyone have a good list of Thai phrases to use with Thai girls easy enough for non Thai speakers?Are you talking about Thai words and phrases for ordinary meeting, greeting and conversation type communication or words and phrases specific to sex, sex acts and the P4P scene?
I have never encountered a useful one for the latter (the sex phrasebook) but would download and install such an app if there was one. I have seen various written phrases here and there on these sites. But nothing like an app where there is a recording of a native Thai speaker saying it clearly and accurately.
However, there are several apps that do that kind of thing for ordinary meeting, greeting and communication words and phrases.
The one I used in the beginning was the Learn Thai Pro Phrasebook app by Codegent. I don't know if it is available in the Apple App Store but it is available in the Google Play Store. Don't remember how much it cost but was probably less than $2 USD 4-5 years ago. There is a free version of it but I don't think the free one has words and phrases related to dating and a few other useful categories.
Arrive tomorrow.
Absolutely blow away (excuse pun) with the notion of walking into a place, getting a beer, getting blown, cleaned up and then walking away happy. A couple of online articles have said that Farangs may not be welcome at some of these establishments.
Would like nice recos for places I can safely go to without being turned away.
P.S. I am a clean white looking, good looking Brit-Indian.You should be able to get exactly what you described in:
L0lita's Bar.
Kasalong Bar.
Wood Bar.
Som's Haven.
Magic Table.
Lollipop1.
Star of Light.
And a few others in and around Bangkok.
Do you have a link to the articles stating Farangs might not be welcome at such establishments? Sounds like an amusing read.
I thought you were skipping Bangkok for the time being?Just October.
Banana Boi
09-30-17, 09:30
The one I used in the beginning was the Learn Thai Pro Phrasebook app by Codegent. I don't know if it is available in the Apple App Store but it is available in the Google Play Store. Don't remember how much it cost but was probably less than $2 USD 4-5 years ago. There is a free version of it but I don't think the free one has words and phrases related to dating and a few other useful categories.Agree this is a good app. It's around 150 baht to purchase.
Banana Boi
09-30-17, 09:43
Arrived around 8:30 pm. I was surprised to see how many girls were already available. Some still doing their make up on the floor. I was even more surprised how few guys there were. Even until I left around 10 pm there were very few guys. Since a hot topic about Thermae is whether farang or Indian men are welcome. All farang and indian men I saw in there seemed to be able to talk to the girls they approached. Saw a girl or should I say lady since she looked 40+ and an indian guy spend over an hour together in the middle section.
As usual, the best area is on the left side as you walk in from Sukhumvit. From the cashier to about half way down the wall. Maybe 5 or 6 girls I would have taken from that section. I noticed a couple of very petite girls under 145 cm. Both very very good looking and young looking. Both were snatched within a minute of hitting the floor by a Japanese perv. One literally within seconds.
All in all the talent was down from my last visit about 6 months ago. Maybe because I recognize over half of the girls in the place. There were still 10 girls I could have easily went with. I decided not to go with anyone since I wanted to go to Soi Cowboy. I'll be back in a week or so.
You should be able to get exactly what you described in:
L0lita's Bar.
Kasalong Bar.
Wood Bar.
Som's Haven.
Magic Table.
Lollipop1.
Star of Light.
And a few others in and around Bangkok.Thanks a lot for the info. Is it necessary to buy a drink for yourself or a lady drink in these places?
Member #4551
09-30-17, 11:23
You should be able to get exactly what you described in:
L0lita's Bar.
Kasalong Bar.
Wood Bar.
Som's Haven.
Magic Table.
Lollipop1.
Star of Light.
And a few others in and around Bangkok.
Do you have a link to the articles stating Farangs might not be welcome at such establishments? Sounds like an amusing read.Awesome!!
Woods bar is the one I've heard about the most. Will check it out tonight!
Will send you PM, as I didn't think links were allowed.
Does anyone have a good list of Thai phrases to use with Thai girls easy enough for non Thai speakers?You can't just read a list of Thai phrases and expect to be able to use them with Thai girls. There is a major issue. Many Thai words have vowel sounds that are not so similar to English or American vowels. They are closer to German vowel sounds, but still the odd strange one. There are also 3 consonant sounds not really in English and others like G, L and R vary from English way. Finally there are 5 different tones to deal with, and only low tone is really like English way of speaking. Even making syllables long or short can be tricky as a learner.
So hearing Thai spoken is critical, and in a quiet environment. Our ears can't even hear Thai correctly. You need a teacher at the start to help you change your pronunciation to get it close to understandable. It is possible for a Thai girl to teach you, if she is very patient and speaks slowly and clearly.
You are probably much better of with Thai girls that can speak English. Although 25 years ago I spent much time with Thai girls with virtually zero English, that forced my Thai to progress.
Some day I will post a list of sexual words and phrases here, but it will be intended for those who can already speak Thai a bit or understand Thai pronunciation.
Took me six months to get a really good grip on Thai pronunciation and that was at age 35. It is not that easy. After understanding pronunciation, the rest starts to come easy. Grammar is very simple, it's just Vocab after that. 25 years later, I am still studying Thai Vocab.
Here is a website for Thai Sexual phrases:
http://www.thai-language.com/id/589875
Paiboon Thai-English-Thai Talking Dic. App is very good and has some sections that include phrases on various topics, including for chatting to girls I think. However it is not a teaching of basics thing. More a good reference dictionary.
Are you talking about Thai words and phrases for ordinary meeting, greeting and conversation type communication or words and phrases specific to sex, sex acts and the P4P scene?
I have never encountered a useful one for the latter (the sex phrasebook) but would download and install such an app if there was one. I have seen various written phrases here and there on these sites. But nothing like an app where there is a recording of a native Thai speaker saying it clearly and accurately.
However, there are several apps that do that kind of thing for ordinary meeting, greeting and communication words and phrases.
The one I used in the beginning was the Learn Thai Pro Phrasebook app by Codegent. I don't know if it is available in the Apple App Store but it is available in the Google Play Store. Don't remember how much it cost but was probably less than $2 USD 4-5 years ago. There is a free version of it but I don't think the free one has words and phrases related to dating and a few other useful categories.The "Talking Thai", Thai to English dictionary app from Paiboon Publishing has a high quality audio function in addition to the dictionary and has just about any sex related word you can think of such as fuck, blow job, cum, pussy, clitoris, dick etc. Plus a few insults if you are so inclined like asshole, fucker and dickhead. I loaded it on my iPod a few years ago for about $25 US.
Christian G
09-30-17, 13:39
Thanks a lot for the info. Is it necessary to buy a drink for yourself or a lady drink in these places?No, drinks or ladydrinks are not mandatory. Up to you. You can just grab your girl outside and go directly upstair for the BBBJ.
The "Talking Thai", Thai to English dictionary app from Paiboon Publishing has a high quality audio function in addition to the dictionary and has just about any sex related word you can think of such as fuck, blow job, cum, pussy, clitoris, dick etc. Plus a few insults if you are so inclined like asshole, fucker and dickhead. I loaded it on my iPod a few years ago for about $25 US.Thanks for the lead. But for me it wouldn't be all that useful to know those words exactly. I mean, generally it is solved by just pointing to those areas of the body. The useful factor for me would be to hear loud and clear a fluent Thai speaker ask specialized sexual/P4P questions that might not be the standard procedure like, "Will you finish a blowjob with me cumming inside your mouth?", "Will you finish by swallowing my semen?", "Will we fuck like a real boyfriend and girlfriend, without condom, and I finish inside your pussy?" Things like that.
Asking about standard stuff like licking around the edges (if at all), slipping on a condom and regular FS procedure is kind of unnecessary IMO. Most of the time a man wouldn't have to clearify that kind of thing upfront in an interview at all. He could just pay the barfine, take her hand and go. But you sometimes have to mime and repeat a question 2-3 times to get them to understand that, no, when you acted out a BJ and pointed to your mouth that did not mean while wearing a condom and it did not mean you wanted to finish cumming ON her mouth. LOL.
Does that talking dictionary have those kinds of more difficult, non standard questions in it?
Are you joking about bathing once a month?
P.S. - I am clean (bathe at least once a month), white (depending on how long I have been in the sun), and a God damn good looking man (depending on lighting, not that I can always depend on that lighting).
Thanks in advance.
Hotman 666
09-30-17, 16:29
Are you joking about bathing once a month?Why do you ask? Is once a month too much for you??
Member #4551
09-30-17, 16:31
No, drinks or ladydrinks are not mandatory. Up to you. You can just grab your girl outside and go directly upstair for the BBBJ.Ahh, that was another question I had. BBBJ!?
I guess I'll find out soon enough.
Why do you ask? Is once a month too much for you??To Each His Own.
Christian G
09-30-17, 17:54
Ahh, that was another question I had. BBBJ!?http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1897-Terms-and-Abbreviations-List&p=347868&viewfull=1#post347868.
Ahh, that was another question I had. BBBJ!?
I guess I'll find out soon enough.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations
Bare Back Blow Job (oral sex without condom).
It seems the Five Star bar in Soi Cowboy has closed its doors. It was probably the bar with the ugliest girls in Soi Cowboy, but I still enjoyed dropping by for a few beers and some live music. It was one of these joint that was DIFFERENT in the bar scene. I guess is catered for falangs above 50 due to the music style and ambience. I once had the pleasure of meeting a world famous rock star in this bar (I will not reveal his name) and he actually barfined one of the ladies on stage! If it is gone for good I will surely miss this bar. Let us hope for a re-opening with better band and better girls!
Member #4551
09-30-17, 20:41
Kinda exciting walking into the place, like knowing what's about to happen. Although, felt the act itself was a bit inpersonal. You get to chat / connect a bit with the lady in an AMP or pick up joint, whereas with this experience you don't.
Thanks for the lead. But for me it wouldn't be all that useful to know those words exactly. I mean, generally it is solved by just pointing to those areas of the body. The useful factor for me would be to hear loud and clear a fluent Thai speaker ask specialized sexual/P4P questions that might not be the standard procedure like, "Will you finish a blowjob with me cumming inside your mouth?", "Will you finish by swallowing my semen?", "Will we fuck like a real boyfriend and girlfriend, without condom, and I finish inside your pussy?" Things like that.
Asking about standard stuff like licking around the edges (if at all), slipping on a condom and regular FS procedure is kind of unnecessary IMO. Most of the time a man wouldn't have to clearify that kind of thing upfront in an interview at all. He could just pay the barfine, take her hand and go. But you sometimes have to mime and repeat a question 2-3 times to get them to understand that, no, when you acted out a BJ and pointed to your mouth that did not mean while wearing a condom and it did not mean you wanted to finish cumming ON her mouth. LOL.
Does that talking dictionary have those kinds of more difficult, non standard questions in it?Ha Ha! Thais do not enjoy to hear very explicit talk the same straight way you would say it in English, and more inclined to use Euphemisms, however I do appreciate the need for you to get precise information about what you will get. No standard books are going to cover your questions.
Still I might have a go at translating your questions into good Thai. I can consult some Thai girl sexual expert (my main regular Gik who speaks excellent English as well) when I am not 100% sure. However probably not necessary this time. My Thai is pretty good. You could consult Talking Dictionaries if unsure how to pronounce the words, once I give Thai script as well.
So I will get back shortly with some pretty clear Thai both Thai script and Romanised but here is first rough attempt off the cuff.
The first ones are relatively easy:
"Set khang nai bpaak dai mai?" Can I cum in your mouth.
"laew hai khun geun duay dai mai?" and then can you swallow it as well. This is really most impolite question, since it is not your business what she does with the cum after taking it in the mouth. It will mark you as somewhat of a "psycho" IMHO. So I would never ask this question.
"ao bpaep mai sai bplork dai mai?" Can I do it without a condom?
"laew set khang nai jim dai mai?" Can I finish inside your pussy?
"tham meuan waa bpen faen duay gan dai mai?" Can we do it just like we were a BF and GF couple?
There, it is not so tough, if know basic Thai words, e. G. "Geun" for Swallow. I wrote the Thai very straight without too many Euphemisms, except "Ao" means to "take" so is a very common word to mean "fuck" but not quite so harsh. "Set" means to "finish". I avoided medical style terminology. "Jim" rising tone is a polite word for pussy, better than "hoi" (shellfish) or "hee" (very impolite like "c-unt".
2 the time in four days in I stopped by lollipop1 and they only had two ugly girls even by BJ bar standards so I decided to try SOM Haven and man they had so many girls there they could have staffed a GO GO bar. Took the girl that was next in the cue and she did the job expertly without complaining. Asked her why there were so many girls there and she said it was the usual but whatever it worked for me. Soi 7-1 seems to be on its last leg or is certainly on the decline which may explains why some of those girls are so pissy. There used to be a festive atmosphere when I would venture down this Soi in the past but its just not the same. They also closed one of my fav massage shop there. Lolit@s and Kasalong also had a good selection out front.
Ha Ha! Thais do not enjoy to hear very explicit talk the same straight way you would say it in English, and more inclined to use Euphemisms, however I do appreciate the need for you to get precise information about what you will get. No standard books are going to cover your questions.
Still I might have a go at translating your questions into good Thai. I can consult some Thai girl sexual expert (my main regular Gik who speaks excellent English as well) when I am not 100% sure. However probably not necessary this time. My Thai is pretty good. You could consult Talking Dictionaries if unsure how to pronounce the words, once I give Thai script as well.
So I will get back shortly with some pretty clear Thai both Thai script and Romanised but here is first rough attempt off the cuff.
The first ones are relatively easy:
"Set khang nai bpaak dai mai?" Can I cum in your mouth.
"laew hai khun geun duay dai mai?" and then can you swallow it as well. This is really most impolite question, since it is not your business what she does with the cum after taking it in the mouth. It will mark you as somewhat of a "psycho" IMHO. So I would never ask this question..Thanks for this useful words!
Ha Ha! Thais do not enjoy to hear very explicit talk the same straight way you would say it in English, and more inclined to use Euphemisms, however I do appreciate the need for you to get precise information about what you will get. No standard books are going to cover your questions.
Still I might have a go at translating your questions into good Thai. I can consult some Thai girl sexual expert (my main regular Gik who speaks excellent English as well) when I am not 100% sure. However probably not necessary this time. My Thai is pretty good. You could consult Talking Dictionaries if unsure how to pronounce the words, once I give Thai script as well.
So I will get back shortly with some pretty clear Thai both Thai script and Romanised but here is first rough attempt off the cuff.
The first ones are relatively easy:
"Set khang nai bpaak dai mai?" Can I cum in your mouth.
"laew hai khun geun duay dai mai?" and then can you swallow it as well. This is really most impolite question, since it is not your business what she does with the cum after taking it in the mouth. It will mark you as somewhat of a "psycho" IMHO. So I would never ask this question.
"ao bpaep mai sai bplork dai mai?" Can I do it without a condom?
"laew set khang nai jim dai mai?" Can I finish inside your pussy?
"tham meuan waa bpen faen duay gan dai mai?" Can we do it just like we were a BF and GF couple?
There, it is not so tough, if know basic Thai words, e. G. "Geun" for Swallow. I wrote the Thai very straight without too many Euphemisms, except "Ao" means to "take" so is a very common word to mean "fuck" but not quite so harsh. "Set" means to "finish". I avoided medical style terminology. "Jim" rising tone is a polite word for pussy, better than "hoi" (shellfish) or "hee" (very impolite like "c-unt".Thanks for what you have posted so far on this, Syzy.
"laew hai khun geun duay dai mai?" and then can you swallow it as well. This is really most impolite question, since it is not your business what she does with the cum after taking it in the mouth. It will mark you as somewhat of a "psycho" IMHO. So I would never ask this question.Of course, it is always the girl's business what she does with the cum after taking it in her mouth. Right up until the moment she agrees to swallow it for an agreed upon price. That's when it becomes "our" business what she does with it. Or the agreement is off and she gets paid less. No problem.
Have to say I have met an awful lot of Thai girls over the past 5 years or so dancing in go-go bars, freelancing in and out of the clubs, posting on the dating sites, working in restaurants and mall shops that apparently are quite alright having sex with "psychos" in this regard. Good lord, what must the girls think of the men who stand before a line up and ask for a show of hands if they are ready for a bit of ass licking/rimming and butt fucking? They must suspect those guys just killed a guard and escaped an Insane Asylum 90 minutes ahead of the arrival of the police.
Desert Sandman
10-01-17, 16:00
Awesome!!
Woods bar is the one I've heard about the most. Will check it out tonight!
Will send you PM, as I didn't think links were allowed.If you are referring to Wood Bar in Soi 7/1, then Chrome Bar is also in the same soi and I believe offers the same service.
Franciscass
10-01-17, 17:46
In my opinion members who say Thai girls consider certain requests as the behavior of a psycho (insane mad dangerous) are really showing what sexual practices they themselves consider not quite kosher. Fisting swallowing to name two recent examples are simply sexual preferences not what most people desire but perfectly acceptable between consenting adults. With some 20 years experience of knowing Thai working girls I don't believe they are repulsed if asked if they can provide particular services. They simply tell the customer they don't provide that service in the same way they will say they do not provide anal CIM rimming kissing to name some common no's.
The first ones are relatively easy:
"Set khang nai bpaak dai mai?" Can I cum in your mouth.
"laew hai khun geun duay dai mai?" and then can you swallow it as well. This is really most impolite question, since it is not your business what she does with the cum after taking it in the mouth. It will mark you as somewhat of a "psycho" IMHO. So I would never ask this question.
"ao bpaep mai sai bplork dai mai?" Can I do it without a condom?
"laew set khang nai jim dai mai?" Can I finish inside your pussy?
"tham meuan waa bpen faen duay gan dai mai?" Can we do it just like we were a BF and GF couple?
There, it is not so tough, if know basic Thai words, e. G. "Geun" for Swallow. I wrote the Thai very straight without too many Euphemisms, except "Ao" means to "take" so is a very common word to mean "fuck" but not quite so harsh. "Set" means to "finish". I avoided medical style terminology. "Jim" rising tone is a polite word for pussy, better than "hoi" (shellfish) or "hee" (very impolite like "c-unt".Syzy, before an army of of ISG readers go marching out to ask their Thai girls these questions, I must point out that you changed the way I worded the quesitons in my earlier post and in a way that I suspect makes a significant difference. Particularly with Thai P4P girls, it might mean all the difference in the world.
I worded my questions "Will you?" but I think you provided translations for "Can you?" questions. At least, that is how you worded the English versions of them. I should have mentioned it earlier but I didn't catch it right away.
Of course, virtually every girl in the world "can" do the things I mentioned. Therefore, those are not very important questions in these situations. The key question, always, is "will" she do them for you. This is particularly pertinent to interactions with Thai P4P girls, who I have found tend to seize upon any opportunity to play word games in this regard in order to make the customer think she has agreed to something she has not; her saying "ok" in response to any question sexual or otherwise rather than a clear and unambiguous "yes" being the most common one in my experience.
Will you also provide the translations for "Will you?" do the things I mentioned rather than merely "Can you?" hehe
Thanks.
In my opinion members who say Thai girls consider certain requests as the behavior of a psycho (insane mad dangerous) are really showing what sexual practices they themselves consider not quite kosher. Fisting swallowing to name two recent examples are simply sexual preferences not what most people desire but perfectly acceptable between consenting adults. With some 20 years experience of knowing Thai working girls I don't believe they are repulsed if asked if they can provide particular services. They simply tell the customer they don't provide that service in the same way they will say they do not provide anal CIM rimming kissing to name some common no's.Well, I do believe one could argue that many if not most Thai girls are not used to having those questions or actions asked of them since it is contrary to their culture. To which I say, "So what?" Perhaps "Great!" is a better reaction.
While many of us fret over getting the wai just right, the this "khrup" or that "khrup" in there, not pointing our toes toward whatever, not touching a person's head in public and so on, embracing Thai culture too much is a big mistake for our purposes here imo. After living with and being married to a Bangkok born and raised Thai woman for 12+ years, visiting Thailand many times in the past and now having lived here full time for about 5 years, partaking sexually of literally hundreds of different Thai go-go dancers, bar girls, freelancers, regular non P4P dating girls and so on, it is my humble opinion that one never wants to lose his "Farang-ness" by trying to turn himself into some kind of imitation Thai man except one taller, with lighter skin and a bigger dick. That runs the risk of presenting these women with something they long ago found dull as dishwater about their Thai men and robs you of the very thing that stimulates and intrigues them into wanting to impress you with what they can and will do sexually. Yes, even more than the color of our skin, the size of our dicks, the bridge of our noses and the money we can pay them.
The money will certainly get you the basic standard Thai fare in the bedroom, no doubt about it. The kind of standard most Thai men are used to getting from their women. But it is your Farang-ness that will get you the enthusiastic bareback and/or BBBJ CIM (with or without Swallowing at the end) that is much more the standard in western culture. Because it is mercifully different from what they are used to. You see these girls jumping at the chance to be with Japanese guys? But you don't see those Japanese guys trying their best to come off as "Thai" for those girls, right? Hell no. They unabashedly and without apology maintain their Japanese ways and, shrewdly, expect the Thai girl they are with to get her shit together and accommodate them. That is not only much more interesting and intriguing to these females, it is generally a more masculine approach anyway and being more masculine almost always delivers more rewards from women than the alternative.
If anything, digging deeper and longer with more articulate, better educated and more honest Thai women reveals that many of them are turned off by Farangs trying too hard to behave like a real Thai. Seriously. They will among themselves deride and mock the behavior. It can be a real turn off for them. That isn't the thing about you that gets them wet. Being direct, being bold about what you want and essentially challenging them to up their game and deliver what you expect is much more stimulating to them than demonstrating a remarkable fluency with the language.
You might even hear many Thai women say they would rather you not learn to speak Thai so well, just a few of the basics is fine. Well, I used to think that was because they didn't want us to overhear and understand what they were saying about us. LOL. That might be part of it. But I have since come to believe it is more because they really don't want us to "become" more Thai. It just doesn't look or feel right to them. And, more pertinent to our purposes here, it is not the least bit sexier to them. Trying to speak some of the basics is cute, charming and even sexy to them. You are trying, demonstrating courage in doing so and not afraid to make a mistake along the way. And that is also a very masculine trait. But rattling off reams of fluent Thai expressions and getting all the cultural behaviors right is not sexier to them. In fact, it more often than not can generate quite the opposite reaction.
You might even hear many Thai women say they would rather you not learn to speak Thai so well, just a few of the basics is fine. Well, I used to think that was because they didn't want us to overhear and understand what they were saying about us. LOL. That might be part of it. But I have since come to believe it is more because they really don't want us to "become" more Thai. It just doesn't look or feel right to them. And, more pertinent to our purposes here, it is not the least bit sexier to them. Trying to speak some of the basics is cute, charming and even sexy to them. You are trying, demonstrating courage in doing so and not afraid to make a mistake along the way. And that is also a very masculine trait. But rattling off reams of fluent Thai expressions and getting all the cultural behaviors right is not sexier to them. In fact, it more often than not can generate quite the opposite reaction. I think a perfect complementary example is when Indians who are "fresh off the boat" come to America. Even though they can speak English well, they are still very foreign and will be forever. They look, smell, talk different and all have an "Indian-ness" about them that will NEVER go away. Unlike Indians who were born and raised in America. So a falang can never, ever, ever actually be like a Thai unless they were actually bred in Thailand from a young age (there are none except half-breeds). The best that a real falang (like us) can do is become an imitator (trying to hard, turn off and also self deprecating), imitating at better levels. And yes, sticking to their original identity is far better. It's just a branding thing.
However, that doesn't mean learning Thai is a bad idea. It's like having the keys to the kingdom. You can communicate with everyone else sufficiently. Someone steals your shit in a market, you can call them out. So, just sticking to communication is best and avoiding the intricacies of Thai culture and the kind of Thai needed for real deep and meaningful pillow talk (as I think you are saying). It just won't work in a head-on manner as a white guy has that branding going for him, he should embrace it. Yes, trying to be Thai is over-the-top corny at best. Another thing about "proper branding" is that I was "getting it for free" from a hooker because she just wanted to show-off and make her friends envious that she had (another) falang gik (and / or she alluded to me sponsoring her since my condo looks nice). She basically came over about 20 x times, snapped photos and bragged to her friends back home (and hooker friends also, separate chats). Much better than posting pictures from her soapy / brothel since everyone knows what it looks like online. Stick with the falang branding, that's all Thai's understand. But do learn Thai for basic communication, but not Thai-level articulation / participation. It's actually a step down in appearances as it makes it look like the falang is trying too hard and has too much free time to learn a useless (in his home) language.
Lastly, different Thai women will "advise" against their falang gik / BF / husband / sponsor learning Thai for different reasons. One thing to note, they are NOT on your side, ever. They are on their families side first, and all the other hookers in Thailand side second (yes, they all take up for each other and have empathy for each other, like a common plight). They are only drawn to the money / status-symbol of having the falang brand. Heck Isaan women will brag about having a geriatric sugar daddy on their main facebook that their family / village sees. They don't want you to learn Thai, because it will disrupt their plans / manipulations more so than it will make their panties less wet. Women don't give direct advice / tips on how to turn them on, but they do give direct "advice / tips" with regards to manipulating falangs.
Well, I do believe one could argue that many if not most Thai girls are not used to having those questions or actions asked of them since it is contrary to their culture. To which I say, "So what?" Perhaps "Great!" is a better reaction.
While many of us fret over getting the wai just right, the this "khrup" or that "khrup" in there, not pointing our toes toward whatever, not touching a person's head in public and so on, embracing Thai culture too much is a big mistake for our purposes here imo. After living with and being married to a Bangkok born and raised Thai woman for 12+ years, visiting Thailand many times in the past and now having lived here full time for about 5 years, partaking sexually of literally hundreds of different Thai go-go dancers, bar girls, freelancers, regular non P4P dating girls and so on, it is my humble opinion that one never wants to lose his "Farang-ness" by trying to turn himself into some kind of imitation Thai man except one taller, with lighter skin and a bigger dick. That runs the risk of presenting these women with something they long ago found dull as dishwater about their Thai men and robs you of the very thing that stimulates and intrigues them into wanting to impress you with what they can and will do sexually. Yes, even more than the color of our skin, the size of our dicks, the bridge of our noses and the money we can pay them.
The money will certainly get you the basic standard Thai fare in the bedroom, no doubt about it. The kind of standard most Thai men are used to getting from their women. But it is your Farang-ness that will get you the enthusiastic bareback and/or BBBJ CIM (with or without Swallowing at the end) that is much more the standard in western culture. Because it is mercifully different from what they are used to. You see these girls jumping at the chance to be with Japanese guys? But you don't see those Japanese guys trying their best to come off as "Thai" for those girls, right? Hell no. They unabashedly and without apology maintain their Japanese ways and, shrewdly, expect the Thai girl they are with to get her shit together and accommodate them. That is not only much more interesting and intriguing to these females, it is generally a more masculine approach anyway and being more masculine almost always delivers more rewards from women than the alternative..I have to commend you for putting together in one post all the experiences, observations and assumptions I have had over the past 10 years of living here but was unable to verbalize. I can confirm everything you wrote about from personal experience but it took many years to acquire that basic level of understanding with a fair amount of frustration and pain along the way.
I was in crazy house a few nights ago and I noticed a few times that guys taking girls out seemed to be paying.
The moma san up front for the bar fine and the pay for the lady.
Is this the way it has to be in crazy house?
Playboy2001
10-02-17, 13:33
I think a perfect complementary example is when Indians who are "fresh off the boat" come to America. Even though they can speak English well, they are still very foreign and will be forever. They look, smell, talk different and all have an "Indian-ness" about them that will NEVER go away. Unlike Indians who were born and raised in America. So a falang can never, ever, ever actually be like a Thai unless they were actually bred in Thailand from a young age (there are none except half-breeds). The best that a real falang (like us) can do is become an imitator (trying to hard, turn off and also self deprecating), imitating at better levels. And yes, sticking to their original identity is far better. It's just a branding thing.
However, that doesn't mean learning Thai is a bad idea. It's like having the keys to the kingdom. You can communicate with everyone else sufficiently. Someone steals your shit in a market, you can call them out. So, just sticking to communication is best and avoiding the intricacies of Thai culture and the kind of Thai needed for real deep and meaningful pillow talk (as I think you are saying). It just won't work in a head-on manner as a white guy has that branding going for him, he should embrace it. Yes, trying to be Thai is over-the-top corny at best. Another thing about "proper branding" is that I was "getting it for free" from a hooker because she just wanted to show-off and make her friends envious that she had (another) falang gik (and / or she alluded to me sponsoring her since my condo looks nice). She basically came over about 20 x times, snapped photos and bragged to her friends back home (and hooker friends also, separate chats). Much better than posting pictures from her soapy / brothel since everyone knows what it looks like online. Stick with the falang branding, that's all Thai's understand. But do learn Thai for basic communication, but not Thai-level articulation / participation. It's actually a step down in appearances as it makes it look like the falang is trying too hard and has too much free time to learn a useless (in his home) language.
Lastly, different Thai women will "advise" against their falang gik / BF / husband / sponsor learning Thai for different reasons. One thing to note, they are NOT on your side, ever. They are on their families side first, and all the other hookers in Thailand side second (yes, they all take up for each other and have empathy for each other, like a common plight). They are only drawn to the money / status-symbol of having the falang brand. Heck Isaan women will brag about having a geriatric sugar daddy on their main facebook that their family / village sees. They don't want you to learn Thai, because it will disrupt their plans / manipulations more so than it will make their panties less wet. Women don't give direct advice / tips on how to turn them on, but they do give direct "advice / tips" with regards to manipulating falangs.Is it not a kind of racist post against a particular community, which we should avoid IMHO on this common forum.
Mr Enternational
10-02-17, 13:59
In my opinion members who say Thai girls consider certain requests as the behavior of a psycho (insane mad dangerous) are really showing what sexual practices they themselves consider not quite kosher.A walk down Soi 6 in Pattaya will fix that. They will leave thinking those chicks are psycho, insane, mad, and dangerous.
Franciscass
10-02-17, 17:08
I agree the ladies are not overly impressed with farangs who pick up the lingo especially those that insist on communicating with them in Thai. I feel they prefer that invisible protective barrier of we not understanding what they are talking about when they are chatting amongst themselves. They will be far more impressed and interested in your generosity and your respect for them.
I do feel strongly that everybody needs to respect the culture of the country they are visiting no matter how odd or even difficult to understand. However in the p4 p world there should be no set rules on what you can ask for, what is available will be determined by the individual providers and all over the world no matter your preferences you will find somebody willing to provide them.
A lot gets written on the lack of sincerity of Thai working girls and their obsession on fleecing the farang. Yes of course it's there but I don't buy the argument that it's as all consuming and as pervasive as some suggest.
I was in crazy house a few nights ago and I noticed a few times that guys taking girls out seemed to be paying.
The moma san up front for the bar fine and the pay for the lady.
Is this the way it has to be in crazy house?It depends. Well known customers like me never pay up front. I rarely even had to discuss the price with the girl. If a customer is not trusted to pay fairly or according to agreement reached, then girls who have been ripped off before may be scared can happen again, and may ask for payment up front. I don't like to pay suspect girls up front myself (I never do in bars so far). I prefer it when the price is not discussed giving me the option to decide what is fair after 2 hours of fabulous DFK fucking or an abort after 10 minutes with straight stiff legged dick scared girls, or somewhere in between.
I am not stingy. I pay well when it is deserved and I got a good reputation with mamasans and girls.
Have to say I have met an awful lot of Thai girls over the past 5 years or so dancing in go-go bars, freelancing in and out of the clubs, posting on the dating sites, working in restaurants and mall shops that apparently are quite alright having sex with "psychos" in this regard. Good lord, what must the girls think of the men who stand before a line up and ask for a show of hands if they are ready for a bit of ass licking/rimming and butt fucking? They must suspect those guys just killed a guard and escaped an Insane Asylum 90 minutes ahead of the arrival of the police.There were famous girls at Tulip who customers thought swallowed, but actually very stealthily got rid of the cum often without the customer knowing. LOL.
I also go by casual conservation with girls reluctantly working in porn star shops and reporting a high percentage of customers as somewhat psycho in their opinions. Does not mean they cannot accept the deal. Just I am aware a fairly high percentage of Thai girls are not considering cum swallowing to be normal nor providing it.
Some Tulip girls specifically told me that they don't do it, even though I never requested it. If you want a really strong GFE experience, sometimes the girl really needs to like your attitude and preferences (not only get money), so I try not to risk spoiling the girls opinion of me. I don't usually ask for things that I think might be a turn off for the girl, because I look for her to enjoy herself as far as possible, which somehow has a psychological effect on my enjoyment as well.
I collect regular girls that seem to be able to have a really good time on the bed. Each to their own way, of course.
Syzy, before an army of of ISG readers go marching out to ask their Thai girls these questions, I must point out that you changed the way I worded the quesitons in my earlier post and in a way that I suspect makes a significant difference. Particularly with Thai P4P girls, it might mean all the difference in the world.
I worded my questions "Will you?" but I think you provided translations for "Can you?" questions. At least, that is how you worded the English versions of them. I should have mentioned it earlier but I didn't catch it right away.
Of course, virtually every girl in the world "can" do the things I mentioned. Therefore, those are not very important questions in these situations. The key question, always, is "will" she do them for you. This is particularly pertinent to interactions with Thai P4P girls, who I have found tend to seize upon any opportunity to play word games in this regard in order to make the customer think she has agreed to something she has not; her saying "ok" in response to any question sexual or otherwise rather than a clear and unambiguous "yes" being the most common one in my experience.
Will you also provide the translations for "Will you?" do the things I mentioned rather than merely "Can you?" hehe
Thanks.It is normal when requesting things in Thai language to ask "can you do something?" it is a request. If they answer "dai" meaning yes they can, it is essentially meaning they agree to give it. Thai maybe does not have the same semantical differences as English. Also it is unwise to assume that a basic English translation has exactly the same meaning or feel as the Thai words have. "dai mai" is the normal way to request someone to do something. You can regard it as meaning "can you?", "do you agree to?", not so much "are you capable of doing?" although could have this meaning in another context. "wai mai" means "are you physically up to doing something?" (not too exhausted or too sick to do it). Sometimes "dai mai" means "do I have permission to do something?". "bpen mai" means "do you know how to do" something?
If you asked a Thai, "will you", it is not a request, but more asking them to predict the future. The common answer then might be "naa ja tham" meaning "I probably should do it". No one can guarantee what will happen in the future.
If a Thai says they "will do something" the true meaning is they might do it. If they say they might do it, the true meaning is they probably will not do it. If they say they is no way they could possibly do it, they still might do it. Thais are just that unreliable. They typically exaggerate. So nothing they promise can be taken as 100% certain.
Feel free to check out my Thai translations with some girls to see if I got correct. I am very confident girls would not misunderstand if I asked them this way. I have 25 years experience since I started learning Thai. My Thai GF does not speak English and we have been together for 12 Years.
Sunday more than a week ago I was horny, having just returned to Thailand, however not one of my regular LINE girls was available. Checked out a few bars including, Crazy H, Shark, Billboard, Twister. Twister had the most girls with pretty face that day, however the girl I called for a drink seemed too shy and I did not get the right vibe. Later she asked for 4 K ST and 1 K BF. Ha ha! No way added to the poor vibe.
Approx. A week later went in Shark only. Kissy Patty with big tits had just returned fortunately. There was another gogo girl with big tits that looked acceptable (not hard coconut shells), also I found number 29 to be quite attractive with natural be cups, very good curves no sag, and Issan but pretty face. She would have been fine failing Patty. Also Coyote 348 was stunning. Face 8 and body at least 9 (can't see the covered tits however they looked large natural maybe). Later saw that some guy had BFed her. So the line up had improved. Forget what the Coyote BF is. I published that before.
There were famous girls at Tulip who customers thought swallowed, but actually very stealthily got rid of the cum often without the customer knowing. LOL.
I also go by casual conservation with girls reluctantly working in porn star shops and reporting a high percentage of customers as somewhat psycho in their opinions. Does not mean they cannot accept the deal. Just I am aware a fairly high percentage of Thai girls are not considering cum swallowing to be normal nor providing it.
Some Tulip girls specifically told me that they don't do it, even though I never requested it. If you want a really strong GFE experience, sometimes the girl really needs to like your attitude and preferences (not only get money), so I try not to risk spoiling the girls opinion of me. I don't usually ask for things that I think might be a turn off for the girl, because I look for her to enjoy herself as far as possible, which somehow has a psychological effect on my enjoyment as well.
I collect regular girls that seem to be able to have a really good time on the bed. Each to their own way, of course.The highlighting in bold is by me.
I don't think I have ever asked a girl, P4P or otherwise, about finishing a BJ with swallowing unless I had already felt the kind chemistry or keen interest to please from the girl of which you speak. That is practically a given for how and when to request special activities that would not generally be considered standard service. And I think most of us understand that. It isn't as though we're approaching a stranger in the shopping mall, tapping her on the shoulder and asking if she would swallow our cum. Of course we are talking about a situation where we have already established as fun and playfully sexy a connection as one can have under these circumstances and as I am sure you believe you establish with the ladies.
Which is one of the reasons the "psycho" reference doesn't really apply.
Franciscass
10-03-17, 23:14
Believing Thai working girls are such prudes to label a customer simply asking for swallowing a psycho is naive. It is behavior that qualifies not sexual preferences. A customer trying to stick his tongue down her throat against her wishes or continuing banging her past the point where she is experiencing pain more particularly the nut job who enjoys this that's my definition of a psycho.
I agree the ladies are not overly impressed with farangs who pick up the lingo especially those that insist on communicating with them in Thai. I feel they prefer that invisible protective barrier of we not understanding what they are talking about when they are chatting amongst themselves. They will be far more impressed and interested in your generosity and your respect for them.I have never had that experience, in fact quite the contrary. When I talk Lao or Thai the girls find it cute and are very happy to communicate. Perhaps it depends on what you say and how you say it.
Back in town last night, I've set my goal at 20 for the 11 nights I'll be here.
Staying close to Nana Plaza (a 3 minute walk) I immediately head there, thinking, take your time. Go into a few places. Be picky. But I end up with the first girl I talk to in the first bar I go into.
That's what starving yourself of booty will do.
I stop in Lollipop. The first go go bar you come to and. I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with some of the lineup. I take it the theme is 'young' and most look that way. Though certainly 'legal'. In particular I see a very, very skinny girl, with large bolt-ONS, and a cute smile on a pretty face, accentuated by her braces.
I want that.
Let's get #1 out of the way.
$700 for BF? When did that start?
Let me make sure of a few things.
Real kissing? Yep. DATY? Enthusiastic yes! No condom blow job? She doesn't understand. I create my own hand signals and demonstrate somehow and she nods yes.
Let's go! The less of these over priced drinks I have to buy the better!
Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah. It is what it is. I'll pay less the other 10 nights of my trip. Right now I want what I want, and THIS girl, gets enough business that she doesn't need to negotiate. She even tells me, no to LT. The only way this part of the market is going down in price is if business drys up badly. And compared to the month of May when I was here. It looks much more busy.
We decide to get a room across the way, even though my hotel is close by. I'm just ready to start. And she does not disappoint. For being young (she says 22, but looks 18, says she's only been doing this 'one month' Uh hunh.), she is quite skilled at what she does. If you like super skinny girls with big bolt-ONS, she is a 10. Soft tongue, sweet kisses, still with sensitive nipples on those big puppies, long silky black hair, and she loves to be given oral. Such a tiny little punami. Do all Thai girls have such small openings, or am I just somehow lucky enough to consistently pick them?
She is skilled at giving oral as well and soon I am ready to take her in a couple of positions. Her on top, then sitting, then missionary. Unfortunately when we get to doggie, the condom breaks inside of her. She's a bit freaked but I hadn't cum yet. Still. Need to go get checked. At least I stopped when I realized it had broken. These in-country condoms are too small. After washing up, she finishes me off orally, and lets me cum on her breasts. We talk a bit and I ask if she likes other girls and if she'the be up for three of us next time and she is very enthusiastic about that.
I walk her back (I can't remember her name, but I do plan to at least have a drink with her before I go, so I'll get it then) and go in to check out Bangkok Bunnies. Either all of the talent is checked out early or, I have to wonder what happened to this place? Lollipop had a much better selection.
$700 for BF? When did that start?
Let me make sure of a few things.
Real kissing? Yep. DATY? Enthusiastic yes! No condom blow job? She doesn't understand. I create my own hand signals and demonstrate somehow and she nods yes.
Let's go! The less of these over priced drinks I have to buy the better!
Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah.
If you tell us how much you paid then we are ready to crucify you, LOL!
(apart from the $700 BF but I suppose it was THB 700).
Member #4551
10-04-17, 11:34
The AMP scene in Bangkok is so in your face all night and every night, compared to the more sedate less obvious AMP scene in Dubai.
Have to say I prefer the Dubai scene, and looking forward to going home tonight. Before Bangkok completely sends me round the bend.
Uncle Volodya
10-04-17, 18:20
$700 for BF? When did that start?
Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah. It is what it is. I'll pay less the other 10 nights of my trip. Right now I want what I want, and THIS girl, gets enough business that she doesn't need to negotiate. She even tells me, no to LT. The only way this part of the market is going down in price is if business drys up badly. And compared to the month of May when I was here. It looks much more busy.
700 (Baht) sounds good to me. Isn't it 1 K before midnight in most places? Or am I thinking of Pattaya prices? To be honest its been a while since I BFed someone in BKK. Most of my recent experiences in BKK has been with freelancers (Thermae, Levels, etc.).
Banana Boi
10-04-17, 18:32
700 (Baht) sounds good to me. Isn't it 1 K before midnight in most places? Or am I thinking of Pattaya prices? Gogo bar barfines are higher in Pattaya than BKK.
Thinking, maybe I'm okay with one for the first night. A bit tired from traveling, I go and get my camera and do some filming around Nana Plaza. I walk thru the agressive ladyboys and stop in to look at some places I just never have got around to. Completely avoid Spanky's, in and out of Angelwitch. Just not into the whole leather, goth thing. Look around Sexy Night to see if the girl from back in May might still be there (she's not) and then into Billboard, which I didn't care for last time.
On the main stage, a girl, who looks like another girl I remember from Soi Cowboy in May. The complete opposite of the one I was with earlier, she is all natural, small breasted and I meet eyes with her a few times. She finally motions if I want to get a drink. I do. We sit and talk and eventually go back to my hotel (ok, yeah the $700 BF is annoying, I'm going all FL and negotiation for a few days), and she acts shy, but. What a cute little body. Barely 5 feet tall, she worries that she doesn't have a good enough body, because she's been away for three years having a son, but I think her body is fantastic. Small waist, just enough ass to matter, small natural breasts that show no signs of wear and tear (though her nipples are a little extended and soft, from breast feeding), and such a pretty face and a big, sweet smile.
All of the foreplay is great. She is especially loving and warm. Which is surprising by what I find out later. But. I can tell she isn't into being given oral. Which is a shame, because she also has an amazingly small, beautiful punami, that I'the love to work on for a little bit, but. No real reaction. Good thing SHE is good at giving oral.
But THEN. She doesn't have a condom. Damn. Neither do I. In my haste to get started I didn't pick any up. So, we finish without actual intercourse, but she spends a good deal of time cuddling and talking, and still even playing around a bit.
She tells me, about her baby's daddy (not together anymore) and her out of country 'boyfriend', who she outright admits she is lying to for the money. I mean, I know it's part of things, but this is my first time hearing someone directly tell me. She admits she hates sex. And does this solely for the money to provide for her young one. I know these things, from reading. And yet, this is my first time hearing it from one of them.
I tell her, I hope one day she finds someone that DOES turn her on. Who treats her well and that makes her happy. She kind of smile / laughs, but. Who knows. Maybe life is so day to day here it just DOESN'T matter. I walk her back and we take a picture together and I tell her I'll stop in and have a drink with her tomorrow.
I need some sleep. At least a nap.
Bangkok. DAY ONE. Girl #2
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We sit and talk and eventually go back to my hotel (ok, yeah the $700 BF is annoying, I'm going all FL and negotiation for a few days), and she acts shy, but.
-snip-LOL. I guess you're sticking with the $700 barfine report rather than amending it to 700 THB. $700 would be upwards of about 22,400 THB just for the barfine! So in that case I will be the first to crucify you for way, way, way over-paying. Especially since the barfine doesn't even include the amount you're going to pay the girl. And I am not a member of the Price Policel! LOL.
Ok, let's assume you really do mean to say 700 THB and not $700. That isn't a high barfine by today's standards. Not in many if not most Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy go-go bars. As was mentioned earlier, many go-go bars charge 1,000 THB or more before midnight for the barfine. In a few go-go bars there is a two-tier pricing for barfines and for certain girls it is more than 1,000 THB even after midnight.
I took a girl from Enter Bar on the third level of Nana Plaza a couple of nights ago and the barfine was 1,000 THB at around 9:45 PM. Enter Bar is a relatively new go-go bar that I believe is owned and managed by the same people as Billboard and Butterflies. Not positive about that but I have seen several girls rotate from one bar to another. For example, generally speaking, this particular go-go bar, Enter, has decidedly lesser girls in terms of attractiveness. But every now and then you can take a peek through their curtained doorway and spot a gem that would fit more naturally in, say, Billboard, but is working in Enter tonight. This girl was a very sweet angel faced cutie with long legs, slim body, a nice booty, perky firm breasts. After a couple of Lady Drinks, some determined lap dancing and cuddling, she answered my brief and direct interview questions positively. So with that I agreed to pay the 1,000 THB barfine, agreed to pay her asking price for ST of 3,000 THB (after she agreed to my personal requirements as well, that is) and off we went. No rush in my apartment, were together and enjoying from about 10:45 PM to 1:15 AM and I was so pleased with how things worked out I went back to the bar with her afterwards and bought us another set of drinks. Well worth it IMO.
That was a greater amount of money than I generally spend for P4P STs in Bangkok, but, as you alluded to, if it is something that you really want and it is right there for the taking, I'm happy to pay it. I am not going to walk away from the right girl with the right chemistry and, most importantly, the right answers to my interview questions for the sake of saving 500-1,000 THB on a given night. Plenty of other nights I can spend less, often much less, sometimes even nothing but the cost of dinner and taxi (with regular date girls around town for example). It all works out fine. And when this girl drops out of the scene, which seems to happen much sooner than it used to, I have no doubt a Line message from me will bring her directly to my apartment for 2,000 THB including taxi to and from for ST and that ST might easily extend into LT until the following afternoon.
Member #4698
10-05-17, 02:01
girl was a very sweet angel faced cutie with long legs, slim body, a nice booty, perky firm breasts. After a couple of Lady Drinks, some determined lap dancing and cuddling, she answered my brief and direct interview questions positively. So with that I agreed to pay the 1,000 THB, agreed to pay her asking price for ST of 3,000 THB (after she agreed to my personal requirements as well, that is) and off we went. No rush in my apartment, were together and enjoying from about 10:45 PM to 1:15 AM and I was so pleased with how things worked out I went back to the bar with her afterwards and bought us another set of drinks. Well worth it IMO.
That was a greater amount of money than I generally spend for barfine and ST, but, as you alluded to, if it is something that you really want and it is right there for the taking, I'm happy to pay it. I am not going to walk away from the right girl with the right chemistry and, most importantly, the right answers to my interview questions for the sake of saving 500-1,000 THB on a given night. Plenty of other nights I can spend less, often much less, sometimes even nothing but the cost of dinner and taxi (with regular date girls around town for example). It all works out fine. And when this girl drops out of the scene, which seems to happen much sooner than it used to, I have no doubt a Line message from me will bring her directly to my apartment for 2,000 THB including taxi to and from for ST and that ST might easily extend into LT until the following afternoon.Sounds like a nice night to me. I will keep my eyes peeled for more such reports about Enter Bar and other honky tonks I have not been to. There are never enough good Go Go's in my opinion. I can always enjoy one more to add to my repertoire. 4 months and counting before take off. Reservations all made although nothing is set in stone except the plane ride. Can't wait! It's going to be a marathon lollapalooza.
Bangkok. DAY ONE. Girl #2
LOL. I guess you're sticking with the $700 barfine report....LOL, yes I need to correct that!
It seemed I was paying 500 Baht bar fine back in May though. Maybe it was a slower time?
Good to know it isn't abnormal.
Sounds like a nice night to me. I will keep my eyes peeled for more such reports about Enter Bar and other honky tonks I have not been to. There are never enough good Go Go's in my opinion. I can always enjoy one more to add to my repertoire. 4 months and counting before take off. Reservations all made although nothing is set in stone except the plane ride. Can't wait! It's going to be a marathon lollapalooza.I went into Enter bar Sunday night about 11 nights ago. The line up was quite small. Maybe only one miderately good looking girl to my taste.
As a newvie to the bar, the gurls were acting quite stupidly towards me like I was a newbie to Thailand. I don't need girls frantically lointing to those on the stage to rush me to choose someone.
Actually was bot very impressed with the bar. However several bars visited had weak line ups on that particular bar. One visit does not prove much.
You might find the number of girls a bit limited.
I tried searching for Thermae on the thread but came up with 20+ pages of hits. I get it's a FL spot underneath a hotel and the prices are all over the thread. I can't find what happens next?? Is the hotel its under used rented out for ST use? If so, how much?
Banana Boi
10-05-17, 06:35
I can't find what happens next?? Is the hotel its under used rented out for ST use? If so, how much?Talk to the girl. She may ask for more than 2500 baht but 2500 baht is the going rate. If she won't budge move on to the next girl there are many. If you are not a preferred customer ie. a younger Asian guy, you may get a surcharge. Again, move on to the next girl. After 2 am the girls start to panic so you may get someone to go for 2000 baht. Don't expect the hot ones to do this though.
Take the girl back to your hotel if it's nearby or rent a room at the hotel upstairs. The hotel above Thermae is the Ruamchit Plaza Hotel, not to mixed up with Ruamchit Travelodge. You can rent ST rooms there but since I usually take 2 or 3 girls in a night I just rent the room for the night for about 1000-1700 baht, depending on the room size. I'm guessing ST rooms are about the same rate.
I went into Enter bar Sunday night about 11 nights ago. The line up was quite small. Maybe only one miderately good looking girl to my taste.
As a newvie to the bar, the gurls were acting quite stupidly towards me like I was a newbie to Thailand. I don't need girls frantically lointing to those on the stage to rush me to choose someone.
Actually was bot very impressed with the bar. However several bars visited had weak line ups on that particular bar. One visit does not prove much.
You might find the number of girls a bit limited.The only other girl I took from Enter about a month ago now dances topless in the soapy tub in Billboard. Saw her in Billboard a few days ago and she said she transferred over from Enter because it has the same owner. I don't remember reading that anywhere else so not sure if it is true. Most of the time I only peek into Enter while making the rounds and don't go inside because of their uninspiring line-up. Actually, the second girl I took from there a couple of nights ago wasn't inside the bar but was sitting outside eating and arm hooked me as I tried to pass by. As it turned out, this time I was glad she did.
I think Natty's characterization of it as one of the smaller "honky tonk" bars is about right. IMO, one should never underestimate the surprise pleasures guys can often find in such bars. One interesting observation is, despite the much smaller line-up in Enter, during the hour or so I spent in there the other night and the time before I counted more take-outs and returning girls in street clothes obviously having been taken out than during that same amount of time in either Billboard or Twister Bar. For whatever that is worth. Have to say the only two girls I have taken from there were fun, no nonsense, no unpleasant surprise providers of exactly what I asked of them and they agreed to in the bar. That counts for a lot as far as I am concerned. However, they were also two out of maybe only 4 girls I have ever seen in there that I'd want to take in terms of their attractiveness.
I tried searching for Thermae on the thread but came up with 20+ pages of hits. I get it's a FL spot underneath a hotel and the prices are all over the thread. I can't find what happens next?? Is the hotel its under used rented out for ST use? If so, how much?A few months ago I walked into the Ruamchitt Hotel above Thermae and asked how much for a ST room and was told 500 baht. But I don't know if that is for 1 hour, 90 minutes or 2 hours.
Talk to the girl. She may ask for more than 2500 baht but 2500 baht is the going rate. If she won't budge move on to the next girl there are many. If you are not a preferred customer ie. a younger Asian guy, you may get a surcharge. Again, move on to the next girl. After 2 am the girls start to panic so you may get someone to go for 2000 baht. Don't expect the hot ones to do this though.These girls at Thermae are FL right? That's the same as a SW (street walker), (just making sure I have my terms right here). How is it a FL can charge 2500 B and a SW only charges 1000 B? I picked up a SW by Nana 2 years ago for 1 hour of her service and she only asked for 1000 B. Did the prices go up that much in 2 years? Or is a FL and a SW completely different?
These girls at Thermae are FL right? That's the same as a SW (street walker), (just making sure I have my terms right here). How is it a FL can charge 2500 B and a SW only charges 1000 B? I picked up a SW by Nana 2 years ago for 1 hour of her service and she only asked for 1000 B. Did the prices go up that much in 2 years? Or is a FL and a SW completely different?A SW is a FL but a FL is not always a SW.
Streetwalkers are, well, walking the streets to find a customer. Although most of the time they are not actually walking but standing in one spot, like opposite Nana Plaza or at lower Sukhumvit.
The girls that are commonly referred to as freelancers are girls who try to find their customers in places like Thermae, Beergarden and the night clubs. Or on the internet through chat apps and dating sites.
These girls would be highly insulted if you call them streetwalkers. Because streetwalkers are at the bottom of the pecking order.
StinkyFeet
10-05-17, 10:01
Anyone noticed a really cute deaf girl working by the parking lot? I wanted to try but ended up gogo bar hopping until closing.
Anyone noticed a really cute deaf girl working by the parking lot? I wanted to try but ended up gogo bar hopping until closing.Of course she has been noticed by many and mentioned before. I guess your real question should be "Is she a good fuck?" I have not fucked her though.
A SW is a FL but a FL is not always a SW.
Streetwalkers are, well, walking the streets to find a customer. Although most of the time they are not actually walking but standing in one spot, like opposite Nana Plaza or at lower Sukhumvit.
The girls that are commonly referred to as freelancers are girls who try to find their customers in places like Thermae, Beergarden and the night clubs. Or on the internet through chat apps and dating sites.
These girls would be highly insulted if you call them streetwalkers. Because streetwalkers are at the bottom of the pecking order.Getting a bit technical perhaps. Plenty of Thermae girls have been picked up by a customer outside the Thermae ("on the street") if you like. However plenty of freelancers do not want to be out on the street being seen trying to get customers. So there is a good distinction.
We could be extra technical and mention that some free lancers sit quietly on side of street waiting for a customer without aggressively walking or chasing anyone. LOL.
Free Lancers is a term having multiple meanings. However usually means that no establishment is paying them a monthly salary so that they are free to come and go or turn up for work only when they want to. They don't have to follow attendance rules. They are not like employees.
So even girls in bars subject to a barfine, can still be referred to as "freelancers" in some people's definition, if they get no monthly salary. They can still make drink commission monies. Soapies can have "sideline" girls that show up only when they feel like it. Even Annies has some girls free to only work very occasionally and they might be called "freelancers".
A few months ago I walked into the Ruamchitt Hotel above Thermae and asked how much for a ST room and was told 500 baht. But I don't know if that is for 1 hour, 90 minutes or 2 hours.Ha ha! And you did not ask? That is a very laid back attitude. LOL For many guys 30 minutes is enough for a fuck and they need never ask. I think at Ruamchit, 500 is bit high so should be more than 1 hour but I never tried there.
I have found that many ST places are inflexible and only offer 1 hour. You want 2 hours you pay double, and there is no 90 minute option.
However I have found certain places that will charge only slightly extra and agree to 90 minutes (I have one such place near to Nana). 60 minutes is too short for me unless I have had no sex for 2 weeks LOL, or if the girl is a bomb out.
Asoke Place gives 60 minutes on busy days like Friday and Saturday (maybe Sunday) but on quiet days, the phone does not ring at the 1 hour mark. They don't kick you out too fast if no customer is waiting. Hence I don't usually go there for ST on Friday or Saturday, I normally choose a quiet night and so get 90+ minutes for the 350 Baht. This may be useful info to some.
Somewhere15
10-05-17, 16:37
Getting a bit technical perhaps. Plenty of Thermae girls have been picked up by a customer outside the Thermae ("on the street") if you like. However plenty of freelancers do not want to be out on the street being seen trying to get customers. So there is a good distinction.
We could be extra technical and mention that some free lancers sit quietly on side of street waiting for a customer without aggressively walking or chasing anyone. LOL.
Free Lancers is a term having multiple meanings. However usually means that no establishment is paying them a monthly salary so that they are free to come and go or turn up for work only when they want to. They don't have to follow attendance rules. They are not like employees.
So even girls in bars subject to a barfine, can still be referred to as "freelancers" in some people's definition, if they get no monthly salary. They can still make drink commission monies. Soapies can have "sideline" girls that show up only when they feel like it. Even Annies has some girls free to only work very occasionally and they might be called "freelancers".Conclusion: Freelancers are not for free!
But 2. 500 and more is also overpriced for most Thermae girls.
Member #4698
10-05-17, 17:15
A SW is a FL but a FL is not always a SW.Right. Just as all Tequila is Mezcal, but not all Mezcal is Tequila and all Cognac is Brandy, but not all Brandy is Cognac.
So I have picked up many FLs in bars over the years, but Ive had far, far fewer liaisons with SWs. Likewise, I like Cognac, but rarely drink any other type of brandy. But lately, I have been drinking quality Mezcal and really liking it. No, not the stuff with the guzano in the bottle. 555. Quality Mezcal. It's got a great smoky flavor.
These girls at Thermae are FL right? That's the same as a SW (street walker), (just making sure I have my terms right here). How is it a FL can charge 2500 B and a SW only charges 1000 B? I picked up a SW by Nana 2 years ago for 1 hour of her service and she only asked for 1000 B. Did the prices go up that much in 2 years? Or is a FL and a SW completely different?They are all freelancers whether they stand in Thermae, sit on a stool at Beer Garden Soi 7 or stand on the sidewalk. But I think your question is, if they are all freelancers, which they are, why would Thermae freelancers mostly ask for 2,500 baht while the freelancers on the sidewalk are mostly asking for 1,000 baht, right? I would say it is because the freelancers in Thermae are less desperate, consider themselves of a higher quality than the girls standing on the sidewalk, can afford to wait and Thermae's customer base tends to buy into that concept as well. Logic would also suggest the freelancers standing outside in the elements on the sidewalk are more "desperate" for business than Thermae freelancers in that they aren't interested in waiting in a room/bar for customers to come in, buy a drink, stand around and gaze at the merchandise and would rather take a more aggressive approach with many more potential customers on the street. So they are also going to negotiate down or settle for less in order to get those customers more quickly.
And there is always the element of branding in that it is generally expected that Thermae freelancers are younger and prettier. So some freelancers who don't see themselves that way won't bother to walk down those steps to compete. But it would be very interesting to see what would happen if a few sidewalk level freelancers invaded Thermae and began to ask for the same 1,000 baht they ask for outside. lol.
Ha ha! And you did not ask? That is a very laid back attitude. LOL For many guys 30 minutes is enough for a fuck and they need never ask. I think at Ruamchit, 500 is bit high so should be more than 1 hour but I never tried there.The reason I didn't ask is because I live fairly close to Thermae and would probably never use one of the hotel's ST rooms anyway. But I was curious what they were charging since I heard they had somewhat recently remodeled some or all of their rooms. I knew it would be for at least an hour and can only think of one time I ever needed to use a ST room longer than an hour. LOL. 500 baht seemed about right to me because it is so close and convenient to Thermae downstairs. I assume they know a Japanese guy not willing to risk being seen walking along Sukhumvit by his wife or co-workers would be willing to pay the extra 150 baht or whatever by keeping it in the same property. And would many of those Japanese guys really need much longer than an hour? hmmm
Blanquiceleste
10-06-17, 01:15
Logic would also suggest the freelancers standing outside in the elements on the sidewalk are more "desperate" for business than Thermae freelancers in that they aren't interested in waiting in a room/bar for customers to come in, buy a drink, stand around and gaze at the merchandise and would rather take a more aggressive approach with many more potential customers on the street. So they are also going to negotiate down or settle for less in order to get those customers more quickly.
And there is always the element of branding in that it is generally expected that Thermae freelancers are younger and prettier. So some freelancers who don't see themselves that way won't bother to walk down those steps to compete. But it would be very interesting to see what would happen if a few sidewalk level freelancers invaded Thermae and began to ask for the same 1,000 baht they ask for outside. lol.This is Thailand. Logic has no relevance.
It is good the BM did not make his way down to Spasso, else this debate on FL pricing would have been much more fierce.
This is Thailand. Logic has no relevance.
True to a certain extent. But some things cannot defy logic and basic market forces forever in the face of rent being due and mobile phone data refills being needed today, not to mention the sick grandmas and the family water buffalo needing another transmission overhaul asap. What would you say is the reason a freelancer perfectly suitable for standing somewhere in the Thermae line-up (there are some), and, in my experience, often much more capable and agreeable to providing better service, won't come in from the rain or the heat and away from much more public view and start asking for 2,500 baht per ST instead of the 1,000 baht she usually gets by standing on the sidewalk?
Maybe the freelancer in question doesn't like to be shopped so much by Japanese customers. That happens. I have met freelancers who feel that way or they say they do. Could be she doesn't know about Thermae and their 2,500 baht or so standard I suppose. In the same way many P4P girls in the area, not just the freelancers, have no idea there are a half dozen venues within easy walking distance that offer attractive young Thai girls who will give you a full and complete no hassle BBBJ+CIM for as little as 800 baht, including the room and no additional tip required, starting as early as 9-10AM.
On the above point, whenever the situation allows I will make sure to walk my higher priced go-go dancer ladies past one or two of those BJ Bars on the way to my apartment, casually mentioning what those cute girls (there is almost always at least 1 or 2 cute ones sitting outside) do for men and how much (rather, how little) they charge for it. It is always a nifty and I think overall useful learning experience for the 700+ baht barfine plus 2000+ fee girl who had no idea what a man could be choosing over her on this or any other night for a fraction of what he is paying to be with her to be made better aware of her competition for both service and price in the immediate area. lol.
Conclusion: Freelancers are not for free!
But 2. 500 and more is also overpriced for most Thermae girls.Some bar girls are priced higher and worth even less. The price of girls has little to do with their performance, it is somewhat more correlated with their looks.
I haven't had a Thermae girl in recent times, worthwhile to the extent of even considering repeating, yet Asian guys seem to like this place. Japan customers must be less fussy. Most SW, while cheaper, were also not worth repeating. In both cases I hate the shock when the girl gets undressed and her body is not as good as I was hoping. I have a higher repeat rate with bar girls even though costing me more money. I select ones with better bodies for my taste too.
I had one really great girl from a cart bar. She was sweet and young. Fabulous tits of perfection. Lacking experience just did not matter when got lucky with the body. Good GFE too. Sometimes you have just got to get lucky. Its much easier to check out naked girls on your lap than determine which Thermae girl will be good. I wonder how many times I need to try Thermae to find a good choice.
I think the odds are against me, with not so many stunners in there really preferring Farang customers. All my favourite girls, definitely prefer Farangs. My most regular girl has done Asian girls in her life, but claims to have never fucked a Thai man.
Blanquiceleste
10-06-17, 15:51
What would you say is the reason a freelancer perfectly suitable for standing somewhere in the Thermae line-up (there are some), and, in my experience, often much more capable and agreeable to providing better service, won't come in from the rain or the heat and away from much more public view and start asking for 2,500 baht per ST instead of the 1,000 baht she usually gets by standing on the sidewalk? You make a good point, but frankly I have never tried to double guess a Thai hooker's psyche. My head hurts at the very thought of it.
I have met freelancers who feel that way or they say they do. Now, how many times do we have to remind ourselves that hookers always say the things we want to / like to hear. "Oh, you so big cock" Gimme a break.
On the above point, whenever the situation allows I will make sure to walk my higher priced go-go dancer ladies past one or two of those BJ Bars on the way to my apartment, casually mentioning what those cute girls (there is almost always at least 1 or 2 cute ones sitting outside) do for men and how much (rather, how little) they charge for it. It is always a nifty and I think overall useful learning experience for the 700+ baht barfine plus 2000+ fee girl who had no idea what a man could be choosing over her on this or any other night for a fraction of what he is paying to be with her to be made better aware of her competition for both service and price in the immediate area. lol.This is an interesting MO and it could work well or very easily go sideways. What will be your response if the girl you are with simply asks you "Yet you picked me and paid the higher price. Why?
Well I finally reached Bangkok, there was still an hour left for my room to be ready, the first place I thought to go was tulip, but the line up was not great at all, then walked towards snow white and again the line up wasnt great, so came back to my hotel, took a shower and rested for sometime.
Then I thought to go to bamboo, the lady at the reception showed only one girl and she looked good, I booked a 2 hour session in the "VIP" room, I was told only 1 shot, I said when I am taking a 2 hour session then I need 2 shots, so then she finally agreed. The girl told me to wait in the room, in pictures on their website the VIP room looks big but in reality it is quite small. She came in the room after 10 minutes we went in the shower, it was pretty mechanical, no BJ, no kissing.
Then I laid on the bed and she gave me a really good massage, it was actually very good and I enjoyed it, after 45 minutes when it came to some action she dint give a BBBJ, it was covered, I asked her politely but she refused, then she was on top of me and when I tried to kiss she just moved away, so a DFK was a far away, she dint even let me kiss on her lips, then she was fake moaning and in 15 minutes I came, I dint feel like going for the 2nd round, so I took a massage for 20 minutes and finished the session 40 minutes early.
Overall it was not worth 2600 bht, I heard good reviews about bamboo and as it was my first time here I expected something good, maybe its because I am fat and people from my place don't have a good name here.
She did seem like a sweet person, but it was too mechanical, no GFE or pse, so it was not worth for me.
This is my first ever report on here, sorry if I made some mistakes.
So as its my first day here, I thought to check out the places which I was reading about for months, I went to Soi 3 first at 8 pm to check out the Arab / CIS ladies outside Grace but sadly there none, I was expecting a lot of free lancers not only Arab but Thai also, but there were like only 4 or 5 Thai ones.
Then I walked towards Soi 4, in reality the lane is not the wide how it looks it the videos, again not a lot of freelancers outside Nana hotel, I just walked on and the bars did seem cool, some had pretty nice music, then as it was mentioned I could find some middle eastern / Iranian / CIS ladies outside Ronny's NY Pizza but only 3 or 4 Thai ladies out there.
I did the whole thing again at 9.30 pm thinking that maybe I could see some but sadly I could not, I expected it to be overcrowded as its Friday night, but it seemed dull.
Then well when I entered my hotel I saw 2 eastern European or Russian girls walking towards it, they looked very high profile, then instead of taking the lift they took a stairway which I dint even know existed, it basically led towards a night club which caters Arab clients, so I assume I can find some CIS ladies there but their prices would be rocket high.
On the above point, whenever the situation allows I will make sure to walk my higher priced go-go dancer ladies past one or two of those BJ Bars on the way to my apartment, casually mentioning what those cute girls (there is almost always at least 1 or 2 cute ones sitting outside) do for men and how much (rather, how little) they charge for it. It is always a nifty and I think overall useful learning experience for the 700+ baht barfine plus 2000+ fee girl who had no idea what a man could be choosing over her on this or any other night for a fraction of what he is paying to be with her to be made better aware of her competition for both service and price in the immediate area. lol.
This is an interesting MO and it could work well or very easily go sideways. What will be your response if the girl you are with simply asks you "Yet you picked me and paid the higher price. Why?LOL. Well, it isn't meant to "work" in that way. I am not asking her to "price match" or anything like that. I don't do it in order to somehow re-negotiate an agreement we already made or change the usual terms between a go-go girl and her customer in store for us this night. It is often unavoidable to walk past a couple of those BJ Bars on the way to my apartment with another girl and I find that most girls are not familiar with the format, have no idea what the conditions are in those BJ Bars or how much the girls charge. Since they charge way less than what it costs to take a go-go girl, even for FS in one of their ST rooms, I like to inform them about why there might have been fewer customers in their go-go bar willing to spend that much and instead might very well choose this option instead.
Nothing like what you mentioned above has ever been asked of me. The most common response is the girl gasping at the idea that some cute young Thai girls in a venue right down the soi from her go-go bar, and some of whom look like they could easily fit in on a go-go bar stage line-up, are only charging 800 baht for a BBBJ+CIM. Or only 1,700 baht for the FS option, including the room and no tip above that required! LOL.
However, if I were asked the question you mentioned, I would probably reply with something like, "Yeah, I probably shouldn't do that. Pang pang (very expensive). But I really wanted to be with you tonight."
I did the whole thing again at 9.30 pm thinking that maybe I could see some but sadly I could not, I expected it to be overcrowded as its Friday night, but it seemed dull.
Even 9:30 PM is probably a bit early. Freelancers outside Nana Hotel may arrive later than that. Try 11 PM+.
True to a certain extent. But some things cannot defy logic and basic market forces forever in the face of rent being due and mobile phone data refills being needed today, not to mention the sick grandmas and the family water buffalo needing another transmission overhaul asap. What would you say is the reason a freelancer perfectly suitable for standing somewhere in the Thermae line-up (there are some), and, in my experience, often much more capable and agreeable to providing better service, won't come in from the rain or the heat and away from much more public view and start asking for 2,500 baht per ST instead of the 1,000 baht she usually gets by standing on the sidewalk?
For once I sort of agree. There must be some reason for girls to take 1 K to 1. 5 K on sidewalk over 2. 5 K in Thermae. The reasons may vary. Simply if the girl is sure she can compete in Thermae and likes Japanese customers, for sure she will be prefer that. Too obvious. Thermae is probably a gossip full area. If a girl has some problems like horribly saggy tits or train tracks stomach, it will probably become known quickly by Thermae regulars. Girls with severe defects are likely to be on the street. Girls of perfection are less likely to be there.
The most common response is the girl gasping at the idea that some cute young Thai girls, some of whom look like they could easily fit in on a go-go bar stage line-up, are only charging 800 baht for a BBBJ+CIM. Or only 1,700 baht for the FS option, including the room and no tip above that required! LOL.
Well I really must make a few passes, to see if they really have such cuties available for cheap fuck. Just BBBJ isn't really my thing. I used to do Anne at Loiltas who was quite cute (fabulous ass) and even doctor BJ had a couple of reasonable lookers some years back.
However the thought on walking an expensive girl past there makes me cringe a little. The girls you and I see as cute may not be cute to everyone. These shops mostly are full of uglies, or fatter girls they maybe cute to someone else.
Even 9:30 PM is probably a bit early. Freelancers outside Nana Hotel may arrive later than that. Try 11 PM+.Thanks, any idea how is the Bollywood dance bar?
Sunday a couple of weeks back a lot of bars had really poor line ups including Crazy House. Last night was back to the expected standard and in fact all of my regular girls were present. All 3 of the girls I fuck had returned just that night or very recently. Co-incidence. Two girls had to end up being disappointed. There were a few other girls with quite immaculate bodies as well, and looking very sexy, that would find quite doable for looks at least, e. G. No. 15 with glasses was playing with a customer sitting next to me. I would easily take her if my regulars were absent. Did not notice any faults about her and her manner was appealing. Not too shy and not too excessively raunchy. Just right for me. Some nights the line up is no where near this standard.
The main point is one visit to a bar does not make us really know the standard. It has ups and downs.
Every bill including barfines gets signed by the customer in case of bill disputes. In fact my bill was wrong. First time in a while, however I knew how many drinks were on the bill, and as every drink was either 160 or 170 baht, it is easy to do a multiplication. Suppose one had 5 drinks and two were only 160. I just do 5 x160=800 add 3 x10 = 830. So get to the total very easily, no matter how many drinks it is a similar calculation. So the bill was corrected. The Waitress did not believe the cashier would make mistake until she used a calculator to add it. LOL. Naive. Use of calculators easily makes mistakes. I am an old guy trained to do math without calculator. LOL Waitress could not understand how I got the total so quickly without a calculator. LOL Arithmetic training in the modern day is poor I guess. They don't know that calculators are the slow and error prone way.
My girl claimed she had not been fucked for several weeks. It was possible as was her first night back and pussy was tight. For once, after fairly long DATY, and short BBBJ (her jaw was out of practice LOL) I was fucking her in doggy, and after 5 mins or so I really had to start using control not to explode. This never happens to me normally, where I know is quite normal for most guys. I never have urge to cum in a big hurry, normally. As it was, this was the shortest duration fuck I have had in a long time. The doggy was just that exquisite. Did not use the full hour for once. Condom was One Touch 003. I recommend it. The feeling was good. Not quite to BB standard of course, but was much easier to get on that Okamoto 003 (made for Japanese) that are just too small. I have tried the Polyurethane type condoms but I don't really like them. Probably the girl's very slim immaculate slim figure was working for me and her small ass was very well shaped and sexy. I will take her again on a quiet night for 90 mins to 2 hours next time. Who knows, if she feels this good, I might even manage two pops. I have known her for a long time, since Crazy Opened about 4+ years ago.
My girl claimed she had not been fucked for several weeks.I imagine there are a lot of gals in that same situation. At the prices they want and the service they deliver; of course that is an issue. Go for 1500ST and she'll get several STs a night. But they'll never do that. So most won't make any money. Amazing these gals. Personally I am glad to see them getting less biz. The entire GoGo scene is completely full of itself. With the exception of a very few bars, most are doing poorly. Punters are tired of the crap service, mediocre gals with bad attitudes, and high prices. They did it to themselves.
However the thought on walking an expensive girl past there makes me cringe a little. The girls you and I see as cute may not be cute to everyone. These shops mostly are full of uglies, or fatter girls they maybe cute to someone else.Personally, I have never seen a gal that I would rate worthy of being "expensive" in any GoGo bar. I think they all need a walk past the BJ bars. It's good for 'them. I mean come on guys; none of the gals in GoGo bars rank as class escorts. All Thai people can pick out a P4P gal at 100 yards. Expensive in my mind would be a gal you could take to a 5 star restaurant, would understand the menu, have eaten the food before, could appreciate it, and would be looked at by Asian and Western dudes alike. You're not finding that in a GoGo bar. And paying over 100 USD for a farmer's daughter makes just no sense to me. Never has. "What your name? Are you holiday?" Give me a break. Expensive? Huh?
Every bill including barfines gets signed by the customer in case of bill disputes. In fact my bill was wrong. First time in a while, however I knew how many drinks were on the bill, and as every drink was either 160 or 170 baht, it is easy to do a multiplication. Suppose one had 5 drinks and two were only 160. I just do 5 x160=800 add 3 x10 = 830. So get to the total very easily, no matter how many drinks it is a similar calculation. So the bill was corrected. The Waitress did not believe the cashier would make mistake until she used a calculator to add it. LOL. Naive. Use of calculators easily makes mistakes. I am an old guy trained to do math without calculator. LOL Waitress could not understand how I got the total so quickly without a calculator. LOL Arithmetic training in the modern day is poor I guess. They don't know that calculators are the slow and error prone way.I always suspected you to be an accountant. I might be right! LOL.
I always suspected you to be an accountant. I might be right! LOL.No no. That was very basic arithmetic. I won a major prize in a maths competition once. Scientific investigations and diagnosis of problems is a part of my work. Clearly I have no writing skills. LOL Too lazy to write proper English.
I mean come on guys; none of the gals in GoGo bars rank as class escorts. All Thai people can pick out a P4P gal at 100 yards. I think you are grossly generalising here.
There is little doubt that the right gogo bars have SOME girls that are far better looking than what the BJ bars have. One Coyote in Shark the other day (No. 348) I would give a 9 for body (what I could see) and 8+ for face. Looking at pics in the Escort sites, It would not be easy to find an Escort to match her looks (based on my taste of course). Yes the price is too high. I agree with that part. She may well cost more than an Escort in the end, I don't know. Most likely she is no porn star. I used to like a Coyote in Mercury whose looks were far above the normal Escort standard. She wasn't available for sex supposedly, yet too many customers trying to get her time. Just dancing and selling drinks.
Sure I will go use BJ bars for FS if I can find a girl good enough, and save money. I have had regulars there in the past. How many of them had a perfect body? Hardly any. Anne at Lolytas (gone now) had a body good enough to turn me on. Great ass! No others with body that good, I have met in a BJ bar. If great girls with nice bodies exist in the BJ bars, who are they?
We can all spot hookers from a distance. No problem. However not all of them are so obvious. I remember taking a girl from Thermae years ago that worked as a Hotel cleaner and was only suddenly in Thermae as desperate for money after her husband was killed in an accident. Would she immediately look like a hooker? Not really. There is no sudden transformation in appearance in all cases.
If I thought Escorts were so good, for sure I would be using them. All the surgeries causing unnatural to weird alien looks, is a significant turn off for me. I will try an Escort sometime soon and report. Need to check into a Hotel first. The lucky dip element of choosing an Escort does not really appeal to me being a picky type.
What is the charge for your so called "Classy" Escorts? I assume that may be quite high. Obviously if a girl is hot enough, classy enough good enough, she can move into a very high priced bracket and still get customers. I guess most BJ bar girls are not good enough to move into higher priced bracket P4P positions and still get enough work.
Plenty of bar girls of course are not good enough (yes all over priced) and they struggle to get a customer for one reason or another. Even one of my CH girls does not have an abundance of customers, due to competition in the bar, not being every man's spec (white skin but small tits), and really a bit too shy to be suited to the venue, and a slightly combative kooky personality that I have got used to dealing with (a few tequilas works wonders with her to become a real goer on the bed). Certainly not like a Classy Escort. Too crazy. LOL I don't pick girls for purpose of classy conversation. I pick them to be a beautiful exciting horny fuck.
Well I really must make a few passes, to see if they really have such cuties available for cheap fuck. Just BBBJ isn't really my thing. I used to do Anne at Loiltas who was quite cute (fabulous ass) and even doctor BJ had a couple of reasonable lookers some years back.
However the thought on walking an expensive girl past there makes me cringe a little. The girls you and I see as cute may not be cute to everyone. These shops mostly are full of uglies, or fatter girls they maybe cute to someone else.The best lookers I have seen will be working the day shift at Kasalong Bar. Unless they are busy inside with customers, the better looking ones generally congregate together at the table right next to the passage between Kasalong Bar and L0lita's Bar.
When I happen to walk by those bars (at night since that is when the go-go bars are open and I would be taking a girl past those bars), I don't stop and chat it up with anyone, don't make a big show of pointing out anything or anyone. I just discretely and quitely ask the girl I am with if she know about that bar up ahead. Just as one might a restaurant. She always says no or just assumes it is a massage shop of some kind. And that is when I let her know why the girls are wearing uniforms, that it is not a go-go bar, no dancing inside and what the specialty of the house is. The girl will often ask how much. If she doesn't ask, I will challenge her to guess how much such a service might cost in that place. And then it just goes on casually from there. The girls outside those bars never have reason to know I am chatting about that with the girl they see me walking by with.
Personally, I have never seen a gal that I would rate worthy of being "expensive" in any GoGo bar. I think they all need a walk past the BJ bars. It's good for 'them.Some of these go-go girls work in a bubble where they seem to genuinely believe that the amount their bar and they are charging is pretty much the going rate everywhere in the area, that we the customers have very little choice in the matter, that there is no real competition out there and that it is silly for any of us to think we could ever get a Thai girl to do this or that for significantly less than their opening quote. Therefore, I try never to miss a golden opportunity to point out how wrong they are, but in a casual, light-hearted, simply small talk conversational way. For instance, if they seem the least bit curious about those Nana Hotel parking lot girls, I tell my girl how much they generally ask for and/or get for ST; 1,000 baht. "So many girls out tonight. Do you know any of those girls?" And on from there. Same with the BJ Bar deal. But I won't mention both in the same night with the same girl. No need to bombard her with this kind of reality check. A couple of times lately, I have asked them if they have ever heard of Smooci and lay out the price structure there as well, which competes very well with go-go bar prices at coming in less minus the Lady Drink costs. Why not? It doesn't hurt to burst their bubble whenever possible.
It won't and shouldn't necessarily change anything about the agreement that has already been made that night between me and the go-go girl I happen to be with. But if we exchange Line contact info afterwards and the inevitable Line message comes in from her in the next 2-3 days with her asking for me to come take her or meet her again, I know she has been made well aware that keen competition for price and service levels is quite a bit more known and available to me than she might have thought when she first met me. So it is much, much easier to make our second or subsequent sessions together far less costly than the first one, sometimes by almost a couple of thousand baht overall. She will simply be less bold and certain about how much her time and efforts ought to cost me.
Next time a go-go dancer quickly drops her opening quote by a significant amount or ups the level of service she had been holding to in response to little more than a brief hesitation and a disapproving look from the customer, that customer might consider the possibility that EihTooms has once upon a recent time taken her on one of his little reality check P4P cost and service level tours in the area. LOL.
Anyone noticed a really cute deaf girl working by the parking lot? I wanted to try but ended up gogo bar hopping until closing.If she's a deafmute girl then it's possible that she's the same girl I found on WeChat a few months ago. Young and pretty little spinner.
However she was a bit of a starfish in bed. Didn't want to give a BJ. Not dick scared though so if you don't mind an optic fuck she's ok. But no more than that so don't pay too much.
Is she's only deaf (not mute) and has tattoos all over her body then she could be another girl I found on WeChat. Her name is Jub and she's a good fuck. Nice girl and great body with very nice B-cups.
Blanquiceleste
10-07-17, 10:07
I imagine there are a lot of gals in that same situation. At the prices they want and the service they deliver; of course that is an issue. Go for 1500ST and she'll get several STs a night. But they'll never do that. So most won't make any money. Amazing these gals. Personally I am glad to see them getting less biz. The entire GoGo scene is completely full of itself. With the exception of a very few bars, most are doing poorly. Punters are tired of the crap service, mediocre gals with bad attitudes, and high prices. They did it to themselves.Would you go so far as to say the Gogo bubble will soon burst? I agree that some have taken it too far, outrageous prices for drinks, barfines and ST / LT.
But I think not. Asian customers with deep pockets and low expectations will continue to fuel the surge even further. I am predicting THB 10 K LT by the turn of this decade.
Hello everyone!
I've been reading this forum for the last few years and it has helped me a lot on my previous visits to BKK and other parts of the world. I would like to thank everyone for all the advice and guidance they bestow on the rest of us mere silent readers.
I will be making another trip to BKK this coming week after a few years. I can't say I've been to a lot of places, I generally try and stay around my comfort zone of Cowboy and some of the nightclubs; a creature of habit a suppose. I do hope to explore some new places as I feel it's probably time for a change. Regardless of where I actually end up going I'll be sure to share my experiences on here.
Cheers!
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