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Sunday a couple of weeks back a lot of bars had really poor line ups including Crazy House. Last night was back to the expected standard and in fact all of my regular girls were present. All 3 of the girls I fuck had returned just that night or very recently. Co-incidence. Two girls had to end up being disappointed. There were a few other girls with quite immaculate bodies as well, and looking very sexy, that would find quite doable for looks at least, e. G. No. 15 with glasses was playing with a customer sitting next to me. I would easily take her if my regulars were absent. Did not notice any faults about her and her manner was appealing. Not too shy and not too excessively raunchy. Just right for me. Some nights the line up is no where near this standard.
The main point is one visit to a bar does not make us really know the standard. It has ups and downs.Agreed, the quality does go up and down depending on the night and time of night as well. You need to go to the same place a couple of times before forming a long term opinion, provided the first visit doesn't put you off that badly LOL!
Well I finally reached Bangkok, *snip* This is my first ever report on here, sorry if I made some mistakes.You asked, we gave some info, and you reported back. That's a good exchange of information and --while sorry about Bamboo -- thanks for sharing the info. TTG.
JesseJames
10-07-17, 12:23
So as its my first day here, I thought to check out the places which I was reading about for months, I went to Soi 3 first at 8 pm to check out the Arab / CIS ladies outside Grace but sadly there none, I was expecting a lot of free lancers not only Arab but Thai also, but there were like only 4 or 5 Thai ones.
Then I walked towards Soi 4, in reality the lane is not the wide how it looks it the videos, again not a lot of freelancers outside Nana hotel, I just walked on and the bars did seem cool, some had pretty nice music, then as it was mentioned I could find some middle eastern / Iranian / CIS ladies outside Ronny's NY Pizza but only 3 or 4 Thai ladies out there.
I did the whole thing again at 9.30 pm thinking that maybe I could see some but sadly I could not, I expected it to be overcrowded as its Friday night, but it seemed dull.
Then well when I entered my hotel I saw 2 eastern European or Russian girls walking towards it, they looked very high profile, then instead of taking the lift they took a stairway which I dint even know existed, it basically led towards a night club which caters Arab clients, so I assume I can find some CIS ladies there but their prices would be rocket high.There's some Jihad [Deleted by Admin] in black burquas standing around the Grace. Looking at them is a laff. Some fat Thais, too. Those mid east characters like fat ass cunts. That was a good place once, with a great freelance coffee shop, filled with hot Thai chicks, now it sucks.
If she's a deafmute girl then it's possible that she's the same girl I found on WeChat a few months ago. Young and pretty little spinner.
However she was a bit of a starfish in bed. Didn't want to give a BJ. Not dick scared though so if you don't mind an optic fuck she's ok. But no more than that so don't pay too much.
Is she's only deaf (not mute) and has tattoos all over her body then she could be another girl I found on WeChat. Her name is Jub and she's a good fuck. Nice girl and great body with very nice B-cups.It is clear there maybe more than one deaf girl in P4 P so no guarantees it has relevance to the deaf girl typically working outside Nana Hotel.
Overall it was not worth 2600 bht, I heard good reviews about bamboo and as it was my first time here I expected something good, maybe its because I am fat and people from my place don't have a good name here.
Can I suggest that Reviews about a place don't mean much. It is more about particular girls in my opinion. Thai girls can be racist and you may not be the preferred type. You may have to make a special effort to seem better than your peers. Just like I am not the preferred type for girls in the Thermae, and usually got weak service one way or another. So I look elsewhere generally, unless happen to find a girl with a really good attitude to me, or that prefers my type.
Maybe look for girls highly recommended by your peers.
Girls may do BBBJ only sometimes depending on their perception of how clean you and your dick is. As I have no foreskin, there is no skin to trap the smelly stuff, and so girl may think that is cleaner, I don't know, however I almost never get a CBJ. Almost can't remember one in Thailand.
I tend to not make special long bookings with girls till I have already tried them at least once to be sure we go well together. Also I never waste time taking a massage, unless its a sexy body slide. LOL
NewbExcited
10-07-17, 16:46
I started my evening a bit too early, around 6:15 at Soi Cowboy. I was denied entry into Crazy Horse, so sat on the patio of Lighthouse. It seemed quiet and I started getting bored. To kill time, I walked to Nana Plaza and went straight to Bangkok Bunnies. I loved the welcoming atmosphere at the club and decided to linger around until 9 pm. At this point, a very cute girl who's name she said was 'Ba' stopped by and asked for a lady drink. I bought her one with the intention of barfining her later. We were able to hold a conversation without getting bored and discussed her fee to go back to my hotel. She quoted 2500 B for an hour or 2 and 4000 B for overnight. I thought it was reasonable and told her I will come back after checking out the action inside the club.
Once I went inside to see the performers on stage, I forgot about the patio girl Ba. After scoping out the talent, I chose No. 22 and bought her a LD. She was very friendly and easy to talk to, so I ended up barfining her. Enjoyed my time with her as she was very un-business like and friendly. Her name is Mai, she's 31, petite and I thought she was very attractive. She's a single mom but has no baby damage. I plan to see her again.
Saw a lot more pretty girls while leaving the plaza.
I think you are grossly generalising here.
If I thought Escorts were so good, for sure I would be using them. All the surgeries causing unnatural to weird alien looks, is a significant turn off for me. I will try an Escort sometime soon and report. Need to check into a Hotel first. The lucky dip element of choosing an Escort does not really appeal to me being a picky type.
What is the charge for your so called "Classy" Escorts? I assume that may be quite high. Obviously if a girl is hot enough, classy enough good enough, she can move into a very high priced bracket and still get customers. I guess most BJ bar girls are not good enough to move into higher priced bracket P4P positions and still get enough work.
Plenty of bar girls of course are not good enough (yes all over priced) and they struggle to get a customer for one reason or another. Even one of my CH girls does not have an abundance of customers, due to competition in the bar, not being every man's spec (white skin but small tits), and really a bit too shy to be suited to the venue, and a slightly combative kooky personality that I have got used to dealing with (a few tequilas works wonders with her to become a real goer on the bed). Certainly not like a Classy Escort. Too crazy. LOL I don't pick girls for purpose of classy conversation. I pick them to be a beautiful exciting horny fuck.Most of the "escorts" in Thailand are simply bar girls that dress a little better.
Most of the "escorts" in Thailand are simply bar girls that dress a little better.I remember a two part article on the Stickman Weekly site a couple of years ago where he interviewed 4-5 escorts working for a popular Bangkok escort agency. He included photos he'd taken of them lounging around in a hotel room. Clear, non Photo-Shopped photos. I am not certain most of those ladies could have scored a customer by standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot if they hung around there for 7 hours and were only asking 1000 baht for LT.
Small sample, I realize. But I also had to think the agency must have tried to provide some of their strongest contenders considering it was a big free ad for them over a couple of weeks.
I remember a two part article on the Stickman Weekly site a couple of years ago where he interviewed 4-5 escorts working for a popular Bangkok escort agency. He included photos he'd taken of them lounging around in a hotel room. Clear, non Photo-Shopped photos. I am not certain most of those ladies could have scored a customer by standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot if they hung around there for 7 hours and were only asking 1000 baht for LT.
+1 A little exaggeration but point well made.
Tonight was due to spend the night in my regular Gik's apartment. At 10:30 I get a message about an unfortunate event so she had to cancel. I won't go into the cause since I don't even know the fine detail. So suddenly here I am wanting a fuck badly and it's getting late. I thought to check out if Kissy Patty was available. She did not answer the message so that means, probably yes.
Show up to Shark and sit down with a soda. Some gogo girl is making faces at me. WTF, I don't know her and not specially my type even though the tits look pretty good. Face just isn't for me. Soon Patty gets up to dance and spots me. She was sitting with some other customer before, but apparently he was not BFing, so Patty is happy to come to me. Patty says her friend Kratae (ex Suzi W) has just started work here and has not managed to sell any drinks. Can I buy her one? Begrudgingly I say yes, but just one. So was Kratae gesturing to me from the Stage. Apparently she knows from my Suzi Wong days in old times, but I don't know her. Just another miscellaneous girl who worked there. Starts telling me that I knew about 5 girls in Suzi W and starts naming them. I have to say no no, I knew 10 to 15 girls in Suzi, over time. Paula, Jaa, Bo, Dtom, Knot, Patty, Yao, Anne, Nuu Dee, Nun (Nuu Dee's friend. Never fucked as tank like body), Priao, Noi, Naam, and finally Maa, that come to mind. Never Kratae though. Suddenly it is mentioned by Patty that there is a Maa here. Is it the same one? Really nice tits, dances just as sexy but hair is now black where used to be light brown before. I had perved at Maa some other day in Shark (very sexy) and she had looked at me like she might know me. Now we knew why. I had fucked her several years ago and she stuck in my mind because she was really great on the bed (one of the very best GFE energetic fucks). Some readers may have heard of Maa (ex Suzi Wong). "Maa" means to "come" but does not mean to "cum". Very different! LOL. So I bought a drink for Maa also. Already BFed Patty so Maa would have to wait for another night. Kratae pulled down her top to get me to touch her nice tits, but I was not sold. Her face was not my type and besides she acted far too pushy.
Maa is hot for me, slim but curvy and good tits (C cup slight sag), and I have such fond memories of the way she moved on the bed, she can be another regular girl for me, and may push a couple of others down the pecking order. Now I have two excellent girls in Shark. The Coyote 348 is also great looking, and a potential try someday.
Where are they now, the old Suzi W girls? So Patty, Kratae, Maa, and Priao are in Shark, maybe some others, Bo and Knot have left to have family (husband or BF), Yao still in Suzi, Dtom is in a Nana Plaza bar, don't know which one. Nuu Dee has BF and has retired too. Still lives nearby. Nun got pregnant to some Farang supposedly (or to her Thai boy). Mamsan Dtaay is now in Crazy Cats.
So I will get back shortly with some pretty clear Thai both Thai script and Romanised but here is first rough attempt off the cuff.
The first ones are relatively easy:
"Set khang nai bpaak dai mai?" Can I cum in your mouth.
"laew hai khun geun duay dai mai?" and then can you swallow it as well. This is really most impolite question, since it is not your business what she does with the cum after taking it in the mouth. It will mark you as somewhat of a "psycho" IMHO. So I would never ask this question.
"ao bpaep mai sai bplork dai mai?" Can I do it without a condom?
"laew set khang nai jim dai mai?" Can I finish inside your pussy?
"tham meuan waa bpen faen duay gan dai mai?" Can we do it just like we were a BF and GF couple?
I promised to do this more properly. Tones are marked after word in brackets e.g. Set(L) , here L means low tone.
The tones are: (M)=Mid or flat tone (actually a higher tone than natural for Farang - maybe like Indian speaking tone)
(L) = Low tone (typical for Farang speaking) ;
(F) = Falling Tone (sounds like a strong emphasis put on the syllable)
(H) = High Tone (starts high and rises a little further) ;
(R) = Rising tone (starts low then rises up - sounds like someone is surprised)
Not sure if the Thai script is any use to anyone, but included for chat messaging purposes. You will notice Thai has no gaps between words. I have to chat in Thai script almost every day. My GF does not use English at all (maybe after a few drinks or when singing western songs only).
Can I cum in your mouth?
"Set(L) khang(F) nai(M) bpaak(L) khun(M) dai(F) mai(H)?"
เสร็จข้างในปากคุณได้ไหม
Literal translate: "Can I finish inside your mouth?"
Answer: ได้ Dai(F) means "O.K." Answer: ไม่ได้ Mai(F) dai(F) means "(You) cannot"
And then can you swallow it as well.
"laew(H) hai(F) khun(M) geun(M) duay(F) dai(F) mai(H)?"
แล้วให้คุณกลืนด้วยได้ไหม
Literal Translate: "And then I want you to swallow as well, is that possible?"
Can I do it without a condom?
"ao(M) baep(L) mai(F) sai(L) bplork(L) dai(F) mai(H)?"
เอาแบบไม่ใส่ปลอกได้ไหม
Literal translate: "Can I take you without wearing a sheath?"
Can I finish inside your pussy?
"set(L) khang(F) nai(M) jim(R) dai(F) mai(H)?"
เสร็จข้างในจิ๋มได้ไหม
Can we do it just like we were a BF and GF couple?
"tham(M) meuan(R) waa(F) bpen(M) faen(M) duay(F) gan(M) dai(F) mai(H)?"
ทำเหมือนว่าเป็นแฟนด้วยกันได้ไหม
Literal Translation: "Can we do it just like we were a couple (GF and BF)?"
There's some Jihad bitches in black burquas standing around the Grace. Looking at them is a laff. Some fat Thais, too. Those mid east characters like fat ass cunts. That was a good place once, with a great freelance coffee shop, filled with hot Thai chicks, now it sucks.I don't see how mongering would require calling women "fat ass cunts" or "jihad bitches". Grow up.
I don't see how mongering would require calling women "fat ass cunts" or "jihad bitches". Grow up.He probably thought it was funny. You don't want to be too sensitive on here about these things. Guys on here can be as smart ass as they like. Foul language is allowed. Strangely the Singular form of "Cunts" is censored on this forum. Like this: ****
I promised to do this more properly. Tones are marked after word in brackets e.g. Set(L) , here L means low tone.
The tones are: (M)=Mid or flat tone (actually a higher tone than natural for Farang - maybe like Indian speaking tone)
(L) = Low tone (typical for Farang speaking) ;
(F) = Falling Tone (sounds like a strong emphasis put on the syllable)
(H) = High Tone (starts high and rises a little further) ;
(R) = Rising tone (starts low then rises up - sounds like someone is surprised)
Not sure if the Thai script is any use to anyone, but included for chat messaging purposes. You will notice Thai has no gaps between words. I have to chat in Thai script almost every day. My GF does not use English at all (maybe after a few drinks or when singing western songs only).
Can I cum in your mouth?
"Set(L) khang(F) nai(M) bpaak(L) khun(M) dai(F) mai(H)?"
เสร็จข้างในปากคุณได้ไหม
Literal translate: "Can I finish inside your mouth?"
Answer: ได้ Dai(F) means "O.K." Answer: ไม่ได้ Mai(F) dai(F) means "(You) cannot"
And then can you swallow it as well.
"laew(H) hai(F) khun(M) geun(M) duay(F) dai(F) mai(H)?"
แล้วให้คุณกลืนด้วยได้ไหม
Literal Translate: "And then I want you to swallow as well, is that possible?"
Can I do it without a condom?
"ao(M) baep(L) mai(F) sai(L) bplork(L) dai(F) mai(H)?"
เอาแบบไม่ใส่ปลอกได้ไหม
Literal translate: "Can I take you without wearing a sheath?"
Can I finish inside your pussy?
"set(L) khang(F) nai(M) jim(R) dai(F) mai(H)?"
เสร็จข้างในจิ๋มได้ไหม
Can we do it just like we were a BF and GF couple?
"tham(M) meuan(R) waa(F) bpen(M) faen(M) duay(F) gan(M) dai(F) mai(H)?"
ทำเหมือนว่าเป็นแฟนด้วยกันได้ไหม
Literal Translation: "Can we do it just like we were a couple (GF and BF)?"
Just in case someone wants to use a Thai talking Dic App to hear the words, Here is the Thai script with words separated:
เสร็จ ข้าง ใน ปาก คุณ ได้ ไหม
ได้
ไม่ ได้
แล้ว ให้ คุณ กลืน ด้วย ได้ ไหม
เอา แบบ ไม่ ใส่ ปลอก ได้ ไหม
เสร็จ ข้าง ใน จิ๋ม ได้ ไหม
ทำ เหมือน ว่า เป็น แฟน ด้วย กัน ได้ ไหม
Just in case someone wants to use a Thai talking Dic App to hear the words, Here is the Thai script with words separated:
เสร็จ ข้าง ใน ปาก คุณ ได้ ไหม
ได้
ไม่ ได้
แล้ว ให้ คุณ กลืน ด้วย ได้ ไหม
เอา แบบ ไม่ ใส่ ปลอก ได้ ไหม
เสร็จ ข้าง ใน จิ๋ม ได้ ไหม
ทำ เหมือน ว่า เป็น แฟน ด้วย กัน ได้ ไหมI just saw you can paste a Thai script phrase into Google translate and there is a speaker symbol to have it spoken for you which can be normal speed or slowed down. A good feature.
Most of the "escorts" in Thailand are simply bar girls that dress a little better.A better dressed bar girl with 1) some internet marketing savvy 2) will come to your hotel room = an "escort" = double the cost if you had met her at the Beer Garden.
SL.
There's some Jihad bitches in black burquas standing around the Grace. Looking at them is a laff. Some fat Thais, too. Those mid east characters like fat ass cunts. That was a good place once, with a great freelance coffee shop, filled with hot Thai chicks, now it sucks.
I don't see how mongering would require calling women "fat ass cunts" or "jihad bitches". Grow up.
He probably thought it was funny. You don't want to be too sensitive on here about these things. Guys on here can be as smart ass as they like. Foul language is allowed. I strongly disagree Syzygies. I think 'Jihad bitches' is way out of line.
I have reported his post.
+1 A little exaggeration but point well made.Imo, the disparity between agency photos and the reality would quite naturally and almost unavoidably be so great that the result is the lady who shows up might only possess a vague family resemblence to the lady you booked based on her photos. And rarely if ever in a better way. It is just human nature to edit away any pics that don't present us in the most flattering, idealized way. Even when bookings and potential serious money isn't on the line. That is why getting as much accurate grading and reporting on listed services is so important. It might be the only aspect that salvages the session rather than canceling it.
Hey, thanks so much for the time and effort you put into translating those Thai "interview" questions, Syzygies. It is much appreciated!
I strongly disagree Syzygies. I think 'Jihad bitches' is way out of line.
I have reported his post.That is very fine, however I doubt if the moderators give a shit. They are far more concerned about the under-below age topic, and members trying to stop others from posting (any sort of crap they like). Will be interesting to see.
Imo, the disparity between agency photos and the reality would quite naturally and almost unavoidably be so great that the result is the lady who shows up might only possess a vague family resemblence to the lady you booked based on her photos. Yeah, the lady who shows up is probably her mother. Or even grandmother, LOL.
So well this time I started roaming around after 11 pm and Syzygies was right, you see a lot more than 8.30 or 9. 30 pm, so I started by going in front of Grace, only one was OK but dint bother going to her, I expected something better, those others in burqas really seemed old Thai ladies or even ladyboys rather than Arab / CIS.
Then as someone had mentioned earlier that a few iranians or middle eastern girls hang around PB hotel but sadly I did not see anyone.
Then I went to soi 4, there were not many outside Nana hotel, then walked towards that intersection of Annie and saw a few lady in burqas, they were worse than outside Grace, they were like trying to stop me, there was one blonde there who seemed like a mix of CIS / Thai, I felt nervous asking her cause she was standing next to those burqa ladies and they were like after me.
Then I went towards NY pizza again in hope of something but it was like dead.
Then went to the bollywood dance bar and that was dead too. Then I thought to check out grace but well it was the same line up, went towards PB hotel and no one was there.
Around 1.30 am I thought to check out the royal garden hotel known for its Russians, the guy took me to the floor, he asked for 3200 for one shot, I said I'm not paying more than 3000 and I have my own condom. So after 10 minutes of yes and no he finally agreed.
The girl was really beautiful, she had an amazing body, took a shower, then she took a shower, when she came out of the shower I gave her 500 bht as a tip and told her to take everything slowly and hurry cause I know the girls there can be rude and be aggressive and tell you to hurry up. So well she was friendly but no kissing on lips and no touching down.
So the whole session lasted about 45 minutes, I know 3500 bht is a lot but I dint know what else to do, I am not a experienced person and I last for only like 10 minutes. Today is my last night here, hopefully I find someone who can give me a GFE experience.
I hope my long post dint bore anyone and sorry if I went into weird details.
I strongly disagree Syzygies. I think 'Jihad bitches' is way out of line.
I have reported his post.+1 IMO punters come here for P4 P intel and not adolescence smack talk. FWIW he used a couple of specifically listed ISG banned words in his post. Plenty of other places on the internet for that fare.
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SL.
NewbExcited
10-08-17, 21:54
I was at Shark today and there was plenty of eye candy. I bought drinks for a few women as I wasn't really looking to bar fine anyone. I plan to see this one Coyote in a day or two, she was smoking hot. I think her number is 336.
One of the girls, number 376, said she is a virgin and has been working at Shark only for 4 days. I was taken aback as I didn't imagine it was possible. The hostess said the girl would go back to my hotel for 30,000 B for 2 hours. Yea, that's right.
Needless to say, I passed as I didn't want her to lose virginity in this manner. The hostess saw her talking to me and found out, I didn't want to inquire once she said she is a virgin.
I figured she either did not like me at all and made up an excuse or she is really one. I will go with the former LOL.
+1 IMO punters come here for P4 P intel and not adolescence smack talk. FWIW he used a couple of specifically listed ISG banned words in his post. Plenty of other places on the internet for that fare.
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SL.Very good. I used to get accused of trying to be the forum Police, and sometimes was frustrated with Moderators who seemed to have wrong emphasis (IMHO) at times.
So happy that others take a turn.
My biggest complaint has been some posters trying to include personal details about other posters that might make them identifiable. As it is, I need to reduce specific details in my field reports. I am aware of significant numbers of girls that read the forum regularly. I just hope it is very few of my girls. However I will try behave reasonably well in case get sprung by one of my girls.
I don't care so much about guys posting smartass or hateful stuff, even racist. It only makes them look a bit childish. Personally I like girls of almost every skin colour, from light to dark. I had a very nice pretty black girl recently (not in Thailand). I also don't care what religion a girl officially is, as long as she can be GFE and preferably horny as well.
I have partied with groups of muslims in the south of Thailand (a muslim dominated province) and they were a lot of fun. They party a lot as long as not in their own house, where they have strict rules. Actual was a province where there has never been any trouble of any sort in many years that I know of. Perhaps the most peaceful province in all of Thailand.
Guys that frequent certain MP shops should be aware if they write ugly stuff about girls in the shop, some girl there may read it and pass on the info. The guy concerned could get a very bad reputation. I am happy to write negative reports about girls if they were no fun, but I always try to say why and what went wrong. No need to be nasty though.
Around 1.30 am I thought to check out the royal garden hotel known for its Russians, the guy took me to the floor, he asked for 3200 for one shot, I said I'm not paying more than 3000 and I have my own condom. So after 10 minutes of yes and no he finally agreed.
The girl was really beautiful, she had an amazing body, took a shower, then she took a shower, when she came out of the shower I gave her 500 bht as a tip and told her to take everything slowly and hurry cause I know the girls there can be rude and be aggressive and tell you to hurry up. So well she was friendly but no kissing on lips and no touching down.
So the whole session lasted about 45 minutes, I know 3500 bht is a lot but I dint know what else to do, I am not a experienced person and I last for only like 10 minutes. Today is my last night here, hopefully I find someone who can give me a GFE experience.
Not sure why you are so keen on non-Thai girls given you are here in Thailand. Sounds like you would never be in the right place elsewhere to try Russians. Yes it is a lot to pay when get those restrictions. It is possible to get a lot cheaper girls without the restrictions.
I have been here off and on for very many years and still never took a Russian or CIS girl, nor any girls in Hijab etc. Just did not seem necessary. I certainly would if met a stunner though. I see higher standard European girls elsewhere. For me 95% to 99% of the black girls here are sub standard as well compared to OS. Once in a while meet a really super hot one, but very infrequently.
Went to Crazy House for a time. Bought one of my girls a total of 3 drinks. She had been a little miffed that previous visit had proved she was not my number one choice. Tonight asked If I would BF her, and I said maybe. Still undecided. I also met a new girl with cute face but very very short for me. By the time I had decided yes for my regular girl, she was dancing, so I was waiting for her to come back. She did not and went to another customer who BFed her fairly quickly. That was a little disappointing. I would have expected her to politely come back to me first and at least tell me she intended to go to another customer, seeing I had already invested at least 3 drinks, and give me opportunity to make the decision. Instead she came back to me after she was already BFed by the other guy. Seems pointless at that point. She was clearly also very drunk, so perhaps I was better off without her. I guess I don't need to buy her drinks anytime in the future. Probably struck off the list since was not my number 1 favourite anyway. I wasted money on her tonight but will save money in the future, by ignoring her, most likely.
I decided to check out Thermae. One Asian guy just coming out had a very pretty girl on his arm. I would have definitely been interested. Bought a tomato juice and started a circuit of the girls. Was midnight and about 60 to 100 girls I guess. I did not count them. During the fairly quick circuit I spotted two really beautiful girls and one maybe. So then for the 2nd circuit I headed straight for the first possibility. By this time she was already drinking tequilas with a Japanese guy (or Korean). So to No. 2. As soon as I started to approach, she gave an expression that was fairly clear, she was not keen. I quickly asked and she confirmed she was looking for Japanese and not Farangs. A great pity as she was really top looking for me. Light skin, slimmish, and natural nose. I could not tell about the tits at all. They were covered. Finally I surveyed the 3rd possible girl again. She had been approached by a Jap but it had not worked out for one reason or another. I decided her nose was a bit too weird for me, even though her tits looked very nice. Not so covered as some others. So I was fairly quickly done with no girl selected. I did not really want to fall back to a lot of also ran type girls. I am always wanting the best. Clearly they were also wanted by others promptly or not wanting me anyway. You just don't get extended time to select any girl if she is really top self looking. As for plenty of times before, I decided this place is not ideal for Farangs any more. You would have to get very lucky to get one of the best beauties, and there are not that many at any one time. I think generally if you are not East Asian type, the best looking girls in the Thermae are probably not going to be available or will not have the right attitude. Sure some girls will be available just not the ones I am wanting. Even when I have managed to take a girl from Thermae in recent months, either I did not get DFK or her body was disappointing underneath, or silicone job just not good, whatever, but always disappointing in the end. It's just the wrong place for me, I have to accept that. Finding bargirls that like Farangs has to work out heaps better and it does.
Decided to check out street walkers on Soi 4. It had rained very heavily earlier, so turnout of street walkers was really pathetic. One good looker outside Hooters, but she was too busy either talking on her phone or type chatting, to be able to get to talk to her. The rest was dregs and very few of them. The deaf girl was not there. One disaster girl I previously tried was there. Ugh! Miss Joom was there. She is always there but much too overweight for me to consider.
Looked in Twisters. My god was awful. Waitress said all the good girls were already BFed. You have to be in early. All that was left were the mini girls and mostly very plain too. I was surprised that Twisters actually had so many extremely ordinary girls. Looked in Mecury but it seems to be lady boy bar now. Went in Mandarin. It's line up was also terrible. Same thing, I guess you have to be early. Shark and Crazy House both had reasonable line ups but of course was in there a lot earlier.
While walking on Sukhumvit, sometimes would spot someone and think, wow this is actually looking like a real girl, but then would get close, see the face in more detail, and realise, although the figure was girl realistic, the face was clearly a ladyboy. Met plenty of black girls, but none sufficiently beautiful.
What we learn is we have to be in the right place and at the right time, to suit that we are Farangs or what ever we are. Different places suit different type of guys.
The night was not a total disaster. Got a very nice GFE from a girl at Shark. Quite early on. I was surprised though as she already had a customer when I arrived and another guy showed up also interested. She politely gave her first customer every chance to decide to BF her before moving to me. I politely waited for him to decline to BF before winning out. The 3rd guy had wanted to BF two girls so probably ended up with only 1. I had previously fucked her 5 years ago, and then she had disappeared until just over a month ago when the BF found a replacement. Still looks a lot younger than her actual age. Still very good on the bed.
For me 95% to 99% of the black girls here are sub standard as well compared to OS. The black girls walking around the radius of the Nana area are butt ugly for the most part. I have seen only 1 that was what I would consider hot enough to take to my room. And admittedly, she was quite hot and I did consider taking her to my room. But in my opinion, no guy in their right mind should be even considering 99% of those black girls. The quality level is garbage.
The black girls walking around the radius of the Nana area are butt ugly for the most part. I have seen only 1 that was what I would consider hot enough to take to my room. And admittedly, she was quite hot and I did consider taking her to my room. But in my opinion, no guy in their right mind should be even considering 99% of those black girls. The quality level is garbage.I have now taken 3 African girls from that area. All would fall into that top percentage of normal looking with no crazy extremes in terms of butt, boobs or hairstyle, overall very well-proportioned, hot and sexy bodies with even facial features well above average or better for the group.
First one was several months ago, can't even remember when exactly. It was the first time I'd seen this one walking around the area and I am in that area often. Would have remembered her since she was young and very sexy looking. She said she just arrived the night before. Per usual for the African girls here, she was very clingy and touchy on the street, overly "enamored" of me. Phony. Since a girl is of no real use to my own sexual satisfaction if she is excessively hairy around her pussy and does not agree to BBFS or BBBJ+CIM no matter how beautiful or sexy she is, I worked those features into our brief discussion if I was going to put her out of her big, phony "unrequited love" for me misery. LOL. But she would not budge below 3,000 for ST and that was only going to be the BBBJ+CIM part. I'd had black gfs in the USA, but she would be my first African girl in Thailand so curiosity and genuine horniness for her took over and off we went.
She was awful in bed. And way, way hairier than she let on outside. DATY was almost out of the question. Almost. But there is no way I would or could have cum from that truly lame BJ even if I had denied myself sexual release for a month ahead of time. Aborted mission and I never saw that girl in the area again after that one night.
Second one was about a month ago and was also a no go for BBFS at any price (well, I topped out at 3,000. Maybe she would have said yes for 100,000. I have no idea). However, she was fine with BBBJ+CIM for 2,000 but no lower. LOL. Ok, whatever. Her lips looked luscious and I needed to feel them.
She was just ok, no better than your average BJ Bar girl who might not have had a lot of experience anyway. I have seen her only a couple of times since and got the impression she might be up for BBFS with me now. But I have not been inspired to bother asking for clarification on that point and have never taken her again for BBBJ+CIM either.
Third one was just a few nights ago. This one was quite beautiful, really a stand-out among FL walking around Bkk, African or not. Can't imagine her not turning heads among any of the doubters here. And another plus was, although she exhibited all the same overly aggressive African FL behavior, there was no mention of money at all. Of course, she and I both knew there would be money paid but not a word about how much. I had first met her about a week earlier and she said she could do anything except a CIM finish for a BJ but was only offering BBBJ without CIM that night since she was on her period. I passed, but not before educating her on the fact that if the act finishes outside the mouth it is not really a BJ finish. At best, it is only a HJ with some oral foreplay thrown in. She laughed, but understood the technical truth of it. Anyway, a few days later, after she said her period would be finished, I contacted her on the Line account she had given me and she immediately met me in front of Hooters on Soi 4.
In the room she was a total waste of my time, my money and her beauty. Not sure I have been with a lady who was more timid, uptight, non sensual and non erotic after removing her clothes. There was no DFK, no gentle touching of my dick and balls, no way to get her to do more in terms of oral foreplay than almost non-existent contact on the very tip. She was beautifully shaved but seemed not to give a damn about my DATY, was no more responsive or ready for sexual intercourse after 10 minutes or so of my efforts than when she first dropped her drawers. Another aborted mission. I was less interested in sex with her than if I had just popped 3 times in the previous 90 minutes. After we got dressed I slipped 1,000 baht under the corner of her purse, she thanked me and apologized for not being good for me and that was the end of that.
I think my African girl in Thailand curiosity has been satisfied for quite some time now. LOL.
The black girls walking around the radius of the Nana area are butt ugly for the most part. I have seen only 1 that was what I would consider hot enough to take to my room. And admittedly, she was quite hot and I did consider taking her to my room. But in my opinion, no guy in their right mind should be even considering 99% of those black girls. The quality level is garbage.Yes I have only seen one that was stunning, and I was in a place where I could not proposition her, unfortunately. I believe her name may have been Christina but not certain. Did not see her return to that place again, but she probably has at times I was not there.
I did take one Zanzibar type girl once and she was totally crap on the bed.
I think my African girl in Thailand curiosity has been satisfied for quite some time now. LOL.I satisfied my curiosity with African girls in the USA and various parts of Africa many years ago. There was a period of time where I did over 100 of them. However, I doubt I will ever go with another again unless there are absolutely no other options. They are second to last on my list, just ahead of Aborigines midgets. There's no need to waste time on them when there are Thai girls abundantly available.
I satisfied my curiosity with African girls in the USA and various parts of Africa many years ago. There was a period of time where I did over 100 of them. However, I doubt I will ever go with another again unless there are absolutely no other options.If you're into female sweat macerated between rolling ass cheeks Africa remains number 1. Also because African women typically only shower once a day in the morning (instead of 15 times a day with detergents as in most part of the world these days).
I have now taken 3 African girls from that area. All would fall into that top percentage of normal looking with no crazy extremes in terms of butt, boobs or hairstyle, overall very well-proportioned, hot and sexy bodies with even facial features well above average or better for the group.
First one was several months ago, can't even remember when exactly. It was the first time I'd seen this one walking around the area and I am in that area often. Would have remembered her since she was young and very sexy looking. She said she just arrived the night before. Per usual for the African girls here, she was very clingy and touchy on the street, overly "enamored" of me. Phony. Since a girl is of no real use to my own sexual satisfaction if she is excessively hairy around her pussy and does not agree to BBFS or BBBJ+CIM no matter how beautiful or sexy she is, I worked those features into our brief discussion if I was going to put her out of her big, phony "unrequited love" for me misery. LOL. But she would not budge below 3,000 for ST and that was only going to be the BBBJ+CIM part. I'd had black gfs in the USA, but she would be my first African girl in Thailand so curiosity and genuine horniness for her took over and off we went.
She was awful in bed. And way, way hairier than she let on outside. DATY was almost out of the question. Almost. But there is no way I would or could have cum from that truly lame BJ even if I had denied myself sexual release for a month ahead of time. Aborted mission and I never saw that girl in the area again after that one night.
Second one was about a month ago and was also a no go for BBFS at any price (well, I topped out at 3,000. Maybe she would have said yes for 100,000. I have no idea). However, she was fine with BBBJ+CIM for 2,000 but no lower. LOL. Ok, whatever. Her lips looked luscious and I needed to feel them.
She was just ok, no better than your average BJ Bar girl who might not have had a lot of experience anyway. I have seen her only a couple of times since and got the impression she might be up for BBFS with me now. But I have not been inspired to bother asking for clarification on that point and have never taken her again for BBBJ+CIM either.
Third one was just a few nights ago. This one was quite beautiful, really a stand-out among FL walking around Bkk, African or not. Can't imagine her not turning heads among any of the doubters here. And another plus was, although she exhibited all the same overly aggressive African FL behavior, there was no mention of money at all. Of course, she and I both knew there would be money paid but not a word about how much. I had first met her about a week earlier and she said she could do anything except a CIM finish for a BJ but was only offering BBBJ without CIM that night since she was on her period. I passed, but not before educating her on the fact that if the act finishes outside the mouth it is not really a BJ finish. At best, it is only a HJ with some oral foreplay thrown in. She laughed, but understood the technical truth of it. Anyway, a few days later, after she said her period would be finished, I contacted her on the Line account she had given me and she immediately met me in front of Hooters on Soi 4.
In the room she was a total waste of my time, my money and her beauty. Not sure I have been with a lady who was more timid, uptight, non sensual and non erotic after removing her clothes. There was no DFK, no gentle touching of my dick and balls, no way to get her to do more in terms of oral foreplay than almost non-existent contact on the very tip. She was beautifully shaved but seemed not to give a damn about my DATY, was no more responsive or ready for sexual intercourse after 10 minutes or so of my efforts than when she first dropped her drawers. Another aborted mission. I was less interested in sex with her than if I had just popped 3 times in the previous 90 minutes. After we got dressed I slipped 1,000 baht under the corner of her purse, she thanked me and apologized for not being good for me and that was the end of that.
I think my African girl in Thailand curiosity has been satisfied for quite some time now. LOL.Over the years I have been with two or three. Same experience as you. All were completely lackluster and a waste of time. Would never take one again.
African women typically only shower once a day in the morning (instead of 15 times a day with detergents as in most part of the world these days).One of my worst sexual experiences I've ever had with any woman was with a black African woman in Africa. She was very sexy, but she stunk badly. I demanded we take a shower together before sex (with African girls, it needs to be together because if you leave them alone in the room while you shower, they will try to rip you off). I washed that chick with more soap than I've ever used in my life. But after the shower, she still stunk as bad as ever. Of course, I still shagged her, but I had to hold my breath and turn my head away from her to breathe the entire shag.
Maybe she needed those 15 showers.
Not sure why you are so keen on non-Thai girls given you are here in Thailand. Sounds like you would never be in the right place elsewhere to try Russians. Yes it is a lot to pay when get those restrictions. It is possible to get a lot cheaper girls without the restrictions.
I have been here off and on for very many years and still never took a Russian or CIS girl, nor any girls in Hijab etc. Just did not seem necessary. I certainly would if met a stunner though. I see higher standard European girls elsewhere. For me 95% to 99% of the black girls here are sub standard as well compared to OS. Once in a while meet a really super hot one, but very infrequently.Well as being a brown single guy who hasn't gotten laid since almost a year wanted to try out someone from Russia, I know many people can go why don't you go to Russia then, well I did go to Russia but it was with my whole family, so the chances of doing anything there were next to impossible. I was alone here so this was my only chance.
Its not about black or white or Thai or Russian, the girl in bamboo was Thai, I just find Russian girls really beautiful. But overall I would suggest to avoid Russians / CIS girls in Thailand, I will elaborate about that in my next report.
I think my African girl in Thailand curiosity has been satisfied for quite some time now. LOL.Great report, I had the curiosity of Russian / CIS girls and that has been satisfied for a while even though the experience was not good, so well I could relate to your post LOL.
Yes I have only seen one that was stunning, and I was in a place where I could not proposition her, unfortunately. I believe her name may have been Christina but not certain. Did not see her return to that place again, but she probably has at times I was not there.
I did take one Zanzibar type girl once and she was totally crap on the bed.The ones I was with were named Sharon (many months ago, only saw her around the area that one time), Nancy (the only one who got me off, and that was via an average, unremarkable BBBJ+CIM) and Grace (the best looking one who seemed not to enjoy or want to engage in sex of any kind once I got her to my room).
Great report, I had the curiosity of Russian / CIS girls and that has been satisfied for a while even though the experience was not good, so well I could relate to your post LOL.Are there Russian FL's in BKK?
The only one I know of was in the Rajak Hotel but she wasn't a FL, she was 5'10 blonde and sexy as hell. Paid 3200 baht, probably by far the most I spent on a lady in BKK. It was worth it in a sense that in the real world, I'd never be able to hook up with a HOT 5 feet 10 inches Blonde Russian, it was a little disappointing that she did have restrictions. The set up was that it was a hotel, walk in and there were 2 Russian ladies to choose from, there was a papasan there and he asked which one I wanted, told him, and he called her over and she led me upstairs for a ST room.
I've never had an African before either, but thanks to your posts, I'm not even a bit curious anymore, no thanks.
Mumbai Guy
10-11-17, 19:00
Are there Russian FL's in BKK?
The only one I know of was in the Rajak Hotel but she wasn't a FL, she was 5'10 blonde and sexy as hell. Paid 3200 baht, probably by far the most I spent on a lady in BKK. It was worth it in a sense that in the real world, I'd never be able to hook up with a HOT 5 feet 10 inches Blonde Russian, it was a little disappointing that she did have restrictions. The set up was that it was a hotel, walk in and there were 2 Russian ladies to choose from, there was a papasan there and he asked which one I wanted, told him, and he called her over and she led me upstairs for a ST room.
I've never had an African before either, but thanks to your posts, I'm not even a bit curious anymore, no thanks.There are plenty of CIS girls in BKK but most operate through agencies (Mafia?) and demand ridiculous price. I am generally not interested in CIS girls in BKK. Met one true freelancer a few months back thro' backpage ads. She sent her pics and was really stunning. Even had a video chat with her. Everything was on offer but she wanted 300 US $ for 2 hours. That is ridiculously high price to pay for a ST. So I passed. Still have her number. If you are interested, PM me.
Banana Boi
10-11-17, 20:14
Hit Soi Cowboy tonight. First thing you notice is all the neon signs above the bars are all turned off. I'm assuming this is because of the King. A bit darker to walk through.
Crazy House. The second you walk in the staff are on you to buy a drink. Nothing changes I guess. Lots of girls for sure for a tiny bar. I saw maybe 1 girl who was drink worthy. Only a 1 night layover again so time was too valuable to waste here.
Suzy Wong. Read so much about this club on here I figured it would have hot girls. I was also drawn in by a coyote in the front. Turns out she was the only decent girl. If this gogo bar were on Walking Street in Pattaya it would have the second worst lineup only ahead of Heaven Above. Never again.
Baccara - 2 or 3 cute ones so lower than what I expect from this bar. There may have been more on the other side of the stage but since girls don't rotate their position on stage I couldn't see the ones on the other side. Really liked #241.
Sahara - 2 cutest girls on Cowboy tonight by a mile were 2 coyote girls at Sahara. A shame they work at Sahara and not Thermae.
Banana Boi
10-11-17, 20:21
They locked the 1st floor door from Ruamchit lobby to Thermae. What a pain in the ass to get in the back door now even for those staying at the hotel.
8:30 pm. Never seen this place so quiet in my life. Maybe 20 girls and 10 guys. Left to go to Cowboy.
10:15 pm. An absolute zoo packed with many girls and Japanese guys. Very hot girls. Maybe 10 I could have went with. Took one of my regulars. I still think she's the hottest one.
1:00 am. Talent thinned out quite a bit. Maybe down to 50 girls and fewer guys. Couple of doable ones but after my draining session with my regular I was too beat to try another.
They locked the 1st floor door from Ruamchit lobby to Thermae. What a pain in the ass to get in the back door now even for those staying at the hotel.
8:30 pm. Never seen this place so quiet in my life. Maybe 20 girls and 10 guys. Left to go to Cowboy.
10:15 pm. An absolute zoo packed with many girls and Japanese guys. Very hot girls. Maybe 10 I could have went with. Took one of my regulars. I still think she's the hottest one.
1:00 am. Talent thinned out quite a bit. Maybe down to 50 girls and fewer guys. Couple of doable ones but after my draining session with my regular I was too beat to try another.1) Why do they make you pay to use the open restroom in the back?
2) Why do most paired up couples then exit through the back -- more discreet?
I've only been there once so didn't really get to take it all in and understand the nuances of the social order there. Going back in a month or two and will report back.
Thanks.
Biggusdickus
10-11-17, 21:40
Subtitle: Spanky's OK, Foxzee top, Crazy Horse flop, Mcdonalds crazy.
I just had one night in Bangkok coming from Pattaya and leaving for Mandalay tomorrow. Went to Spanky's first, everything as expected. The problem is, I had exceptional nights in Spanky's before, so a normal night there is kind of disappointing. So I went to Foxzee bar in soik 20, a little bit but not completely off the beaten track. Met a 100% stunning cutie there but it being my first visit I didn't know exactly what was on offer. And to be honest, I already wanted to spend an hour or two in Crazy Horse and company would have been difficult to handle.
So went to Crazy Horse. Big disappointment! I'm not one the one to count every single baht, but being a mathematician by profession in earlier times I can't help having the current total bill somewhere in the back of my head. At least in places where I know the prices. So when it was time to pay the bill I knew it would amount to something between 1800 and 1900. Instead, I was quoted 2500, which simply couldn't be the correct sum, and besides, even a drunk non-mathematician would have been surprised by the roundness" of that number. So I politely mentioned that there had probably been some mistake and to please redo the calculation. The absolutely stunning girl number 21 in my arms (and between my legs) insisted that 2500 was the total bill, but after some discussion she told the waitress to get a phone. Instead, the waitress took all the signed slips to the cashier and came back with a calculator and the same stack of signed slips. Except that after the original slips with a total amount of 1860 baht there was a new slip. Not signed, of course, with an additional amount of 640 baht! At least somebody had been able to correctly calculate 2500-1860! I pointed out that this last sales slip was new and not signed and hadn't been part of the stack of bills as it came out of my bill holder. Then a discussion with my girl number 21 and the waitress ensued about how I didn't understand the bar rules and how of course the additional 640 baht were to cover the lady's share of the lady drinks! The girl even started to theatrically pull her LD-slips out of her pocket and handed them back to the waitress! I insisted on knowing the rules and on paying 2000, as I had planned before already, including some tips. The waitress finally accepted (maybe remembering that I had offered her and the mamasan a drink earlier?) but insisted on a tip (that was not given) and on escorting me to the door. She even kissed me on the lips for goodbye but my suspicion is that she later talked to the doorman to point out who was not welcome at the club anymore next time. Well, let's see what will happen.
The sad thing is that even after their attempted scam they didn't just back down and claim that some unfortunate mistake had happened but instead the took it to the next level, first stupidly adding a new and unsigned sales slip, and then accusing me of not knowing any newly invented rules. I'm OK if I just have to keep an eye on the bill, and so far situations like this have always ended with some staff apologizing about a minor mistake and me pretending to believe the coincidence and handing over the tip that I had planned to give anyway before being scammed. But this time they tried to go on with the scam which I think is quite unpleasant. The other sad thing is that even despite what happened I will go back to crazy horse. Stupid me! There's simply no other place with so many fully nude girls in Bangkok. But if a place can survive so many successful or failed attempts to scam their customers (check the internet to find out!) just because they have some nude girls on display, then why the hell aren't other bars in the same road not following the same strategy? Personal acquaintances with people of influence?
The long story cut in short: don't visit crazy horse because they will try to rip you off, and if you ignore my advice like I will do myself then at least check your bills very carefully! I'm not the first that was offered a bill there that was a little bit too high.
From Crazy Horse I went to Suzy Wong. There I ordered my own drink and another drink for a girl. After a while the girl left, I sad bye and thanks for all the fish and the time spent with me. Five minutes later the girls comes back with a drink in her hand! It seems Suzie Wong has invented (together with others) a new way to cheat on their customers. It's the third time during these 2 week holidays of mine that it has happened to me that I refused to pay a drink and the drink just came all the same. It has never happened before in 9 years of bar experience in south east Asia, but three times already in one week! I don't think that my refusals are so much less clear and harder to understand all of a sudden, so my guess is that some clever bar owner or manager or mamasan came up with the idea to ask the customer for another drink and then bring one, regardless of the customer's answer. It the customer complains, just blame the loud music for a misunderstanding and hope that the naive customer will pay the drink all the same.
How nice. I'm starting to not completely disbelieve those old, angry and sometimes sour expatriots who tell me again and again how every Thai is a scammer. And I'm also trying to reschedule the rest of my holidays, maybe to ban chang or even Cambodia. Not sure though if the situation there is better since I last visited PP and Snooky ville.
After Crazy Hourse and Suzy wrong I went to Mcdonals, calling it a day. I sat opposite a ladyboy who spent at least 20 minutes watching himself in a pocket mirror and arranging some of his hair, not even using a comb but putting one hair at a time to one side and back to the other side. I really started to doubt his mental integrity! I mean, how can you sort your hair for 20 minutes in a pocket mirror? And he's probably still at it even now that I'm writing this 2 hours later!
OK, that ladyboy didn't do me any harm, not even of the financial type, contrary to he Crazy Suzy house! But on the other hand I really start to dislike those strange people. Nowadays there are bars that I don't even go into because from the outside I don't know if they will be full of guys inside! And therefore of course they regard deceiving customers about their real sex as legit, after all it's about earning money.
So, to cut a long story short: don't expect wonders in Spanky's, find your own cutie in a bar off the beaten track, avoid Crazy Horse and Suzie wong, and help stopping the ladyboy epidemic!
The black girls walking around the radius of the Nana area are butt ugly for the most part. I have seen only 1 that was what I would consider hot enough to take to my room. And admittedly, she was quite hot and I did consider taking her to my room. But in my opinion, no guy in their right mind should be even considering 99% of those black girls. The quality level is garbage.Is there more than normal in this area? In my previous trips here, it seemed they were mainly around the darker inbetween area from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy. Now they're clustered right in front of my hotel and all along Soi 4 and they're very aggressive at times. Clearly look away and they still try and step in front of you and grab your arm. I have yet to see one that I thought was hot and even attractive. Very annoying.
Too rich for my blood. Thanks though.
There are plenty of CIS girls in BKK but most operate through agencies (Mafia?) and demand ridiculous price. I am generally not interested in CIS girls in BKK. Met one true freelancer a few months back thro' backpage ads. She sent her pics and was really stunning. Even had a video chat with her. Everything was on offer but she wanted 300 US $ for 2 hours. That is ridiculously high price to pay for a ST. So I passed. Still have her number. If you are interested, PM me.
Hit Soi Cowboy tonight. First thing you notice is all the neon signs above the bars are all turned off. I'm assuming this is because of the King. A bit darker to walk through.
Crazy House. The second you walk in the staff are on you to buy a drink. Nothing changes I guess. Lots of girls for sure for a tiny bar. I saw maybe 1 girl who was drink worthy. Only a 1 night layover again so time was too valuable to waste here.
Suzy Wong. Read so much about this club on here I figured it would have hot girls. I was also drawn in by a coyote in the front. Turns out she was the only decent girl. If this gogo bar were on Walking Street in Pattaya it would have the second worst lineup only ahead of Heaven Above. Never again.
You failed to read my report about Suzi Wong having died completely? Already had a weak line up before the change of management and only got worse.
I don't see staff come to get my drink order any faster than any other bar. In fact CH has been down on waitress numbers lately. That is a very strange comment. Bars offer drink service fairly promptly in all bars. They don't intend you to come in for free.
Back to Bangkok couple of days back. Ventured into soi cowboy again. This started little early around 8 pm, relatively less crowd. Most of the hot picks were available, which are generally occupied by 9 or 10. First entered spice girls and picked a hot looking girl. Apparently, I was not aware that I picked up a coyote. Off sudden my beer and lady drink costed me 900 bhat. She was hot and nice dance moves. But tipping her was minimum 100 bhat. She was not accepting anything below this. Within 10 minutes she finished her drink and made an excuse to run outside. I think most of the coyotes are for attracting the mongers and not really for longtime entertainment. I asked bar fine for coyote and her reply was "3000 bhat bar fine" and for whole night "8000 bhat". Not ready for negotiation at all.
Finished my beer and they went out to Afterskool. Now between expats I met, everyone has their own opinion about Afterskool. I personally liked it for two main reasons not crowded, and quick fun within the bar. Service of the girls is very good. Had beer and took two girls with lady drinks. One of them could speak impeccable English. She used work at one of the international chain hotels in Bangkok and has recently joined Afterskool. She introduced me to "Naughty boy" corner in Afterskool. At the end of the bar a small sitting area which finally meets the make room and toilet. This area is called as "Naughty boy corner". For 500 bhat you can get HJ or BJ for 1000 bhat right in the bar. I was quite thrilled and went for BJ in the club. It was nearly 9:30 and only one more customer was there. Who gave me thumbs up and went outside. Got my cock out cleaned it with wet wipes and I was getting a HJ and BJ in the open. Two girls came near us kind of like hiding our act, one was facing opposite side and other was facing me and smiling. It was kind of erotic and I was turned on by the whole experience. Never have I done it in public or in front of others. She doing a good job but don't expect it to be like in one on one session, like going on knees or lying down nothing like that. You both seat on the couch and she will bend down to give BJ and HJ simultaneously. Came in 15 minutes and was happy. Cleaned myself and went back to my original place. Offered her another lady drink. Asked her for bar fine but she declined as she doesn't do anything outside the bar. There was one more girl with curly hair who had amazing figure with perfect tits. She came a little late while I was in action. However she was only serving drinks and not participating in any action. All in all, I liked afterskool was there till 10 pm and saw atleast 4 more expats going to naught boy corner. If you want to experience something new then this is a good option. Don't expect very hot girls but service wise it is good.
Banana Boi
10-12-17, 12:13
Bars offer drink service fairly promptly in all bars. They don't intend you to come in for free.Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.
Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.I just calmly nod no.
Even when they try and grab my arm, I just politely move it away and point anywhere away from them as to where I'm going.
Usually, I'm just going to walk through at first to see if it's worth staying for, or if there's anyone there I'm trying to NOT see, but that isn't in THEIR best interest.
But I always make my own choice as to if I want to sit or not.
The key is just to remain calm and be polite and just firmly let them know that isn't where you want to go.
As I say, pointing toward the stairs and saying "Upstairs" or pointing toward the bathroom and saying "Toilet" (even if neither is your destination) goes a long ways toward them leaving you alone as well.
It's all just a part of the way.
JesseJames
10-12-17, 13:58
Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.
You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.The twenty and fifty notes are the most precious in Thailand. I always keep a lot of them during my trips and use them only for taxis, bars, small restaurants and tip for restaurants or traditional massage girls.
Is there more than normal in this area? In my previous trips here, it seemed they were mainly around the darker inbetween area from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy. Now they're clustered right in front of my hotel and all along Soi 4 and they're very aggressive at times. Clearly look away and they still try and step in front of you and grab your arm. I have yet to see one that I thought was hot and even attractive. Very annoying.They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.
AmericanThief
10-12-17, 20:30
Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina? In my experience everytime I want to penetrate the second girl they stop me and want to change the condom. Even in the mouth the girl wants to use a wet wipe on me before she starts sucking. Please provide name of any place that won't do this.
Houston Player
10-13-17, 01:58
The solution is to use female condoms.
They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.I feel the same way about many facets of the industry these days. When I hit the PSE oilies all I see is old gals or gals who have terrible mommy body. No matter how good the performance is there is just no way I'm going to pay for that. Don't understand why anyone would. As long as guys settle for this crap, it is going to be what is on offer. Same holds true with the bad attitudes you see from lookers at overpriced GoGo bars.
I feel the same way about many facets of the industry these days. When I hit the PSE oilies all I see is old gals or gals who have terrible mommy body. No matter how good the performance is there is just no way I'm going to pay for that. Don't understand why anyone would. As long as guys settle for this crap, it is going to be what is on offer. Same holds true with the bad attitudes you see from lookers at overpriced GoGo bars.Very interesting. What does consensus say about this? Girls who are really into what they're doing with great attitudes but slightly poor physical shape? Or hot looking face and body who lay there like a dead fish? Of course in a perfect world you'd want the whole package, but who can tell without testing the goods first?
Personally I'd chose slightly bad physique with a good attitude and one who really gets into it. Even if she's faking and putting on a good show.
They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.As the saying goes, One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison. Of the three African girls I tried (and paid), two were aborted missions because they were so bad in bed for me and only one delivered a decent BBBJ+CIM that we agreed upon. That is no worse a rate of success for me than in some of the most highly touted so-called PSE oilies I read glowing reviews about on these pages. And the African girls I chose were far and away younger with better bodies and sexier faces than most of the Thai girls I have seen in those shops.
I have little doubt that the many "2-Minute Men" who travel to Bangkok and find themselves fighting to hold back their first of 3 hoped for pops in 90 minutes while the lady is merely soaping up her own hands in the shower at some of those shops would have been delighted with what I found worthy of aborting within 15 minutes with those African girls.
Similar to what Goatscrot posted, I see extremely ugly Thai freelancers who still to this day call out and reach out to me as I walk past them. I have never taken them, never seen any other man taking them and yet they have been standing or strolling around the area for years. I have no idea where their money comes from or why they still hang around. But there they are. And now I am seeing the same inexplicable thing happening with the extremely ugly African girls out there.
Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina?Yes. I did not have to do that in The Philippines, the USA, Mexico, Hong Kong, Vietnam, etc. because I was involved in threesomes with two girls who did not require me to wear a condom in the first place. Even though this was several years ago for me, I have a hunch the conditions would be the same in, say, the Philippines as it was for me 15-20 years ago at perhaps the height of the heterosexual HIV hysteria-inspired condomania. Thailand was simply indoctrinated about and terrorized into wearing condoms in ways other countries were not and the lingering effects of that have held on longer than other places.
Banana Boi
10-13-17, 04:39
They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.I had this happen to me at CH too. Had to chase the waitress for my change. It was a fairly significant amount too. The only other time in well over 1000 gogo bar visits this happened was at Windmill in Pattaya. Waitress didn't bring back around 700 baht and went to hide. I was close with mamasan at the time and mamasan chased her down and gave her the third degree.
Just my opinion that CH is the absolute worst gogo bar there is. They don't give a shit about a customer cause guys keep coming. Almost every CH visit something happens like when the mamasan turned into the devil after I said no to barfining a girl. She had only sat with me fro about 10 minutes and I she was only on her second drink. This club is the worst imho. I'll take my money to Pattaya gogo bars where I am treated like a King.
They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.Also, the last time I was in Crazy House about two weeks ago, the girls were still pulling their "tequila and coke" non-existent single cocktail bit in order to scam the customer into buying them two Lady Drinks from the get go instead of just one. When the girl asks you to buy her a "tequila and coke", that is two Lady Drinks, not one mixed cocktail. Already being aware of this particular scam, I caught it immediately with my girl and said, "No, just one Lady Drink for now". But my buddy fell for it with his girl and I felt bad that I had not warned him about it before we went into CH. There are just so many Lady Drink hustle scams you can review and warn against beforehand and it seems Crazy House is the prime testing zone for the go-go girls and servers to try anything and everything to pull the latest, newest, scammiest ones.
Also, the last time I was in Crazy House about two weeks ago, the girls were still pulling their "tequila and coke" non-existent single cocktail bit in order to scam the customer into buying them two Lady Drinks from the get go instead of just one. When the girl asks you to buy her a "tequila and coke", that is two Lady Drinks, not one mixed cocktail. Already being aware of this particular scam, I caught it immediately with my girl and said, "No, just one Lady Drink for now". But my buddy fell for it with his girl and I felt bad that I had not warned him about it before we went into CH. There are just so many Lady Drink hustle scams you can review and warn against beforehand and it seems Crazy House is the prime testing zone for the go-go girls and servers to try anything and everything to pull the latest, newest, scammiest ones.Obviously the girls are trained to ask for two drinks, and supposedly not having the skills to explain it to the customer. LOL Obviously any bar goer with experience knows there is no such thing as a tequila-coke mixed drink. The girls like to have both. Tequila helps relief their shyness, but they still need something else for hydration and thirst quenching, which could be just plain water they can get at the counter if they need it.
So for sure buy them just tequilas, or just soft if they are a girl who does no alcohol.
Newbies will probably only fall for the trick once, when they see that two drinks arrive for the girl. I always show a finger to indicate 1 drink to the waitress just in case she can't hear me properly in the din. So I say "one tequila for the girl" point to her and raise the one finger to make sure the waitress gets it. You can't let girls order from the waitress directly unless they are well trained by yourself.
Obviously I still like CH even if visit not so often any more. The line up is quite variable. Good some days, bad other days. Can't beat it for skinny natural looking naked girls here in Bangkok (mostly Issan of course), so contrary to what BB says, it is still one of the least boring bars for me. The worst part of CH, is the shows intended to help fat and ugly girls make some money. I switch off totally if they come on. I don't need to be treated like a king, but the staff do look after me a bit special. The girls that I take form CH as regulars are enthusiastic on the bed and can do GFE which is a lot better than what I typically get from freelancers. The difference is my girls prefer farangs. For me they are much sexier looking than typical MP girls.
I have been attending Shark a bit which has some nice looking girls (very few in the non Coyote section). It is definitely a much more boring bar. Girls are over-dressed. Cannot tell if Coyotes have decent tits or not. I hate the trend to Coyote outfits and over-priced barfines for Coyotes, yet the Coyote girls hardly know how to be a real "Coyote". So I call them fake "Coyotes". I have attended Twisters and Billboard a bit in Nana but apart from one or two very lucky picks (that were regulars for a time till they moved on), have struggled to find really good girls in there. I have no regular girls in Nana Plaza at present. No regular street walkers, and not even any regular MP girls at this time. My last favourites moved on.
Maybe today I will feel like walking past those BJ shops to see if have any cuties, and check a few MPs. Had not been in an MP at all for last few weeks. My mongering has dropped off severely, just doing regular girls known for a long time, including one girl previously done 5 years ago (but still in good nick). LOL
Banana Boi
10-13-17, 05:26
Obviously the girls are trained to ask for two drinks, .Is this commonplace in other BKK bars or just trained by CH? Never had it happen to me in Pattaya and I buy A LOT of lady drinks for A LOT of different girls.
Just my opinion that CH is the absolute worst gogo bar there is. They don't give a shit about a customer cause guys keep coming. Almost every CH visit something happensCompletely agree. Terrible place. On every visit, they have been rude to me. One girl didn't deliver in my room and just left, but mamasan didn't give a shit about it when I went back and complained. Even got rude. Everyone is bullying you to buy drinks. Other girls even interrupt your conversation with a girl to tell you to buy her a drink. I mean, who the fuck are you to interrupt my conversation, am I sitting with you or this girl? Use your mobile (I am not talking about taking photos, just reading the news or texting) and someone will ask you to put it away. Oh, and all the girls that only go with Koreans and Japanese; "she no like America man", "cool, I am from Europe", awkward silence.
Avoid that shithole.
Is this commonplace in other BKK bars or just trained by CH? Never had it happen to me in Pattaya and I buy A LOT of lady drinks for A LOT of different girls.Obviously guys evaluate bars from totally different perspectives. How good are the bar service staff is of so little importance to me. Mamasans don't count as well. I don't need them. I only care if girls have good figures (not too many defects), reasonable faces, and fuck good. Drink prices is something to be aware of a little. Lady drinks are a lot more expensive in Shark.
In Shark girls are not trained to ask for 2 drinks, but rather to ask you to buy drinks for her friends that are of no interest. LOL Seems more silly to me. However it makes sense to the bar because they have a lot of girls and not as many customers as CH. So some girls will get no drinks at all if they can't latch onto a friend's customer.
Obviously you know Pattaya and I don't. As for Bangkok gogo bars, it is less common for girls to ask for two drinks for sure, however I don't know what happens in a lot of bars. No clue about all the "Arab's" bars. Yes it's a good CH trick. I can't say when this trend really got started in a big way, but obviously it is girl dependent. A few of the most popular girls may have been doing it for 2 or 3 years and then it started to spread.
Naturally Bacarra is even worse where they want you to buy drinks before entering (at least for non Japanese customers). Before deciding if there is any suitable seating and before deciding if you like the line up at all or want to walk straight back out again. My other complaints about Bacarra are: the stage is too crowded so you can only see the nearest girls. The less dressed girls (topless) upstairs are the uglier ones, even though you can see them better. Just too much surgeries for me, causing too many girls to look like ladyboys or aliens. Reasonable bodies (ignoring the silicone) but typically plain faces partially obscured by very weird hair styles. "Top" rated popular girls in the club were very plain to my taste. I like a real more natural Thai look. There is the odd stunner if can find her in amongst the crowd. I have had the odd reasonable girl from Bacarra in the distant past. Not for a few years though.
Long Gun has some naked girls as does Dollhouse I think, but pretty much all uglies or poor figures, maybe the odd exception.
The best looking bargirls that performed well for me over the last 4 years all came from Crazy House. Unfortunately the top 3 (Nat, Donut and May-Lee) are gone. One quite cute girl from Billboard might make the top six (also long gone). Stunners are hard to come by. Sexy girls, no problem.
Have not had a real stunner from MPs that was any good for quite a few years now. One quite pretty girl last year with nice tits but well short of being stunning. Another quite pretty one but with belly scar and only moderate on the bed (both are gone). Had the odd stunner that was crap from Soapies. Have never had a real stunner from Thermae at all. My favourite Thermae girls are from the long distant past. Just two bring back very fond memories. That was in the days when Thermae was for Farangs.
Everything seems to go into deterioration mode, like Goatscrot has been saying for years. Girl attitudes are not the same. Most bargirls don't do long time. They say they cannot sleep with a stranger in the bed (even they have known you a long time). Some say they typically sleep from 5AM to 1PM as their normal thing. 25 years ago we got a bargirl for the night for 500 Baht and and maybe BF was 300 or less. I never heard of ST with a bargirl in those days. Some girls lingered and was hard to get rid of them. Hence we used to say "You pay the girl in order to get her to leave." MP girls were relatively more expensive than bargirls in those days. Thermae was in a different location and great for Farangs. It was open late after the other bars had all closed. My first Thermae girl was so good with big natural non-saggy tits, that I took her about 4 nights running LT. She spoke to me in a mixture of Thai with English pronouns thrown in. Was very tough to understand her as I had been learning Thai just a few months. Bangkok was like ascension to heaven in those days even the nudie bars were only in Patpong, but they were extra raunchy.
Robert Long
10-13-17, 07:40
I had this happen to me at CH too. Had to chase the waitress for my change. It was a fairly significant amount too. The only other time in well over 1000 gogo bar visits this happened was at Windmill in Pattaya. Waitress didn't bring back around 700 baht and went to hide. I was close with mamasan at the time and mamasan chased her down and gave her the third degree.
Just my opinion that CH is the absolute worst gogo bar there is. They don't give a shit about a customer cause guys keep coming. Almost every CH visit something happens like when the mamasan turned into the devil after I said no to barfining a girl. She had only sat with me fro about 10 minutes and I she was only on her second drink. This club is the worst imho. I'll take my money to Pattaya gogo bars where I am treated like a King.How can you talk or even enjoy being in there without earplugs? You would think that they would play seductive romantic music. That would help turn you on. I mentioned it to a waitress and she told me, "you can leave". So I left.
RL.
HorseTrader
10-13-17, 08:32
Just got into town and hustled to Thermae to get a beer just before 2:00 am. I was pleased at the choices. Flirted with 4 girls, bought a drink for my favorite, and did short time in my nearby hotel room for 2000 baht. Shower together, massage, BJ, and sex. I was more than pleased so I tipped 500 baht. Time in my hotel room was just over 2 hours.
I've read about Japanese men being favored, but I really didn't sense any kind of bias at Thermae. Of course, this was shortly before closing and there were about 45 girls and 7 customers.
I may not chose the same girl next time, but I will return to Thermae.
Also, the last time I was in Crazy House about two weeks ago, the girls were still pulling their "tequila and coke" non-existent single cocktail bit in order to scam the customer into buying them two Lady Drinks from the get go instead of just one. When the girl asks you to buy her a "tequila and coke", that is two Lady Drinks, not one mixed cocktail. Already being aware of this particular scam, I caught it immediately with my girl and said, "No, just one Lady Drink for now". But my buddy fell for it with his girl and I felt bad that I had not warned him about it before we went into CH. There are just so many Lady Drink hustle scams you can review and warn against beforehand and it seems Crazy House is the prime testing zone for the go-go girls and servers to try anything and everything to pull the latest, newest, scammiest ones.I had a girl at Billboard try that same scam on me. But I agree that CH is the worst place for that and pretty much every girl in the place tries that scam. CH and Billboard are the only 2 places I've seen girls try that dishonest scam though. Most bars aren't that unethical.
I had a girl at Billboard try that same scam on me. But I agree that CH is the worst place for that and pretty much every girl in the place tries that scam. CH and Billboard are the only 2 places I've seen girls try that dishonest scam though. Most bars aren't that unethical.LOL. Funny you mention that because at the repeated urging of a Billboard dancer I had taken about 3 weeks ago I went back there to take her out again just this past Tuesday night. She jumped on me when I walked in and was all lovey-dovey in the booth. Naturally, I asked her if she wanted a drink before we leave, trusted her to order through the server on her own and what do you think she was brought? Yep, a "tequila and coke", two Lady Drinks at once. LOL.
I made a mental note of it, didn't say anyhing about it and just wrote it off as getting the formality of the typical two LDs we generally contribute to the cause out of the way quickly when we know we're going to barfine the girl and get what we want in the room.
But now I see from your post that Billboard has added the "You want a drink?" - "Yes, I want a tequila and coke. You ok?" hustle to their already well established "This is my friend. You buy her a drink too?" hustle.
She didn't pull that one when I first met her and took her out 3 weeks ago. But she managed to slip a variation of it in there the second time around anyway. Lolol.
Christian G
10-13-17, 11:20
Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina? In my experience everytime I want to penetrate the second girl they stop me and want to change the condom. Even in the mouth the girl wants to use a wet wipe on me before she starts sucking. Please provide name of any place that won't do this.About change condom when you switched the girl I always had the same experience. Unfortunately.
For BBBJ It depends on the girls. Some want to use a wet wipe or "clean" my cock with the towel other girls just share my cock in their mouth, suck and lick together without problems.
About change condom when you switched the girl I always had the same experience. Unfortunately.
For BBBJ It depends on the girls. Some want to use a wet wipe or "clean" my cock with the towel other girls just share my cock in their mouth, suck and lick together without problems.It's a rough life.
Bars are closed today so street walkers are out early.
Correction. Nana is closed. Cowboy open.
Thermae closed but some girls outside. The pretty one I want is available. 3k to Farangs but I popped already.
About change condom when you switched the girl I always had the same experience. Unfortunately.
For BBBJ It depends on the girls. Some want to use a wet wipe or "clean" my cock with the towel other girls just share my cock in their mouth, suck and lick together without problems.Its the girl's preference and for hygiene sake.
I once banged two real life sisters in AC at the same time, they were agreeable with no change of condom, awesome bang!
Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina? Why would they want to risk catching an STD from another working girl? Their behaviour makes sense.
I had a girl at Billboard try that same scam on me. But I agree that CH is the worst place for that and pretty much every girl in the place tries that scam. CH and Billboard are the only 2 places I've seen girls try that dishonest scam though. Most bars aren't that unethical.I believe in Billboard that girls from the bubble bath area will not come and sit with you until you buy them at least two drinks. These are rules. So that is a little different, but I like it less as is not optional.
Decided to walk past Kasalong today. First time ever. It's not in a place you would typically pass unless staying in Soi 6 perhaps. Clearly the looks on average was well in front of Lolytas, based on past visits. Some girl called Yo was actually moderately pretty and not overweight. So I went in. Naturally I enquired about Full Service possibilities but Yo was apparently for BJ only.
She was willing to remove her top at least. Tits were gorgeous. Face 7 tits 8. Clearly no baby. Just BCups I guess but the shape was perfect. Pity no fuck.
BBBJ scores maybe 7 out 10. Nothing too surprising. Just standard. Depth about 3 inches only. Speed too fast. I was always saying it feels better when slower, but she would soon return to auto pilot which was at least double my desired speed. Tickled the balls quite nicely.
WIR? Probably not. I am not really a BJ man. It feels somewhat unfulfilling to me. Not really an a-hole enthusiast either. I like pretty pussy between skinny legs. If the BBBJ was really super, like a 10 points, I would repeat.
Did she swallow? LOL. I have no idea, at least not with 100% certainty. Clearly these girls are trained not to appear to spit it out, but get rid of it slyly, quickly and efficiently, and soundlessly. So I don't know if it ended up in the towel below very quickly indeed (most likely) or if she got rid of it at the basin after saying something to me (less likely but quite possible). However I am sure these girls are not into swallowing multiple loads per day. Even if I asked to inspect her mouth, not sure if would prove anything if she managed to get rid of it very fast. Magic tricks. Sorry if I burst any bubbles. I remember a few years back, Raptors proudly reporting how his Tulip girl had swallowed, when I knew damn well she never did that. She was clever. Can't see why swallowing is such an interesting thing to guys (influenced by porn little doubt). If it is so good, ask the girl to spit it into your own mouth (you wouldn't want it to go to waste).
Warning to guys going straight home to the Mrs from Kasalong. The seat was a couch, leather but cracked. You get to sit on a towel, but if you lean back on the sofa, cracks in the leather could make marks on your back that might take a little time to fade away. Might be difficult to explain how got those.
Can anyone name names? Is their any girl there pretty and good body like Yo, but likes to have a Farang cock (not so small) in her pussy ?
Went for a walk to Nana to check out the street walkers. It was only 7:30 PM but several nice looking girls especially 2 in Sukhumvit road (yes clearly real girls despite the location). I will return another day to one of them. Nana Plaza was closed, so any thought to check the Twisters early line up evaporated.
Then went walking back to Thermae to see if was open or closed. Door was closed. A really slim pretty girl with cute face and natural upturned nose, same girl I had spotted last visit but was beaten to by a Japanese guy buying her tequilas, well tonight she was standing outside. Asian guy spoke to her briefly then moved on. I found out she takes Farangs but charges 3 K. Not clear whether she is worth the risk. I will probably risk trying her another time, when unfucked (I mean unpopped).
Kept walking and the weather was not that hot. Guys think they need to stay in Nana Hotel to be very close to action due to the heat. Makes me laugh. By 10 pm temperature was even very pleasant outside, and we still have not reached the official cool season.
Kept walking to Cowboy and discovered Cowboy bars were open. Entertainment is banned today, and looks like the cowboy bars could not sell alcohol. They also did not play what I would describe as music, and in some bars the girls were not allowed to dance.
Had a look in Dollhouse. No one naked. Liked one gazelle with a blonde wig but when she got off the stage she went straight to a customer she was clearly with so I left. No one else was at all interesting. First set of dancers had skirts and tops on. There were the average lookers. Second set were the more scantily dressed fat girls. None acceptable looking. Overall standard miles behind Shark and even shark has limited lookers in the normal gogo section with see-through outfits.
Crazy House was super boring. Had one drink and left. Girls not nude, not topless, not dancing. They were playing something with a beat but I would not describe it as music. Girls just standing and shuffling on the stage. No alcohol (I guess). Was slightly too early for the best girls to have arrived. Typically the best girls come in the front door between 9 and 9. 30 pm. You can be too early and you can be too late. The right time to arrive CH is 9 PM, to see which better looking girls arrive. Waste of time for me. Better off to call a girl and have her come over.
So mostly in the wrong place at the wrong time. However now I know some reasonable street freelancers can be out as early as 7:30 PM. I will use that another night. Almost ready for the extreme gamble of some good looking freelancers. LOL. Probability of success not great. Walking around a reasonable distance at this time of night is not an issue. Got maybe only slightly sticky.
Ended up in a Sports bar which was allowed to open and sell alcohol because their license is not in the entertainment category.
Why would they want to risk catching an STD from another working girl? Their behaviour makes sense.Sure, but it makes a mockery of a threesome. Putting on one condom is enough of a hassle, changing condoms 2 or 3 times turns the fantasy into a chore. Same thing if a girl wants you to change the condom between vaginal and anal. Giving the condom a quick wipe and putting on some fresh lube should suffice.
I've got some lube here containing two kinds of parabens. Not many germs can survive that.
Sure, but it makes a mockery of a threesome. Putting on one condom is enough of a hassle, changing condoms 2 or 3 times turns the fantasy into a chore. Same thing if a girl wants you to change the condom between vaginal and anal. Giving the condom a quick wipe and putting on some fresh lube should suffice.
I've got some lube here containing two kinds of parabens. Not many germs can survive that.Parabens are a kind of preservative and have no antibacterial effect. Pussy to arse is no problem but arse to pussy is going to transfer faecal bacteria into the vagina which can cause all sorts of health problems.
Decided to walk past Kasalong today. First time ever. It's not in a place you would typically pass unless staying in Soi 6 perhaps. Clearly the looks on average was well in front of Lolytas, based on past visits. Some girl called Yo was actually moderately pretty and not overweight. So I went in. Naturally I enquired about Full Service possibilities but Yo was apparently for BJ only.
She was willing to remove her top at least. Tits were gorgeous. Face 7 tits 8. Clearly no baby. Just BCups I guess but the shape was perfect. Pity no fuck.
BBBJ scores maybe 7 out 10. Nothing too surprising. Just standard. Depth about 3 inches only. Speed too fast. I was always saying it feels better when slower, but she would soon return to auto pilot which was at least double my desired speed. Tickled the balls quite nicely.
WIR? Probably not. I am not really a BJ man. It feels somewhat unfulfilling to me. Not really an a-hole enthusiast either. I like pretty pussy between skinny legs. If the BBBJ was really super, like a 10 points, I would repeat.
Warning to guys going straight home to the Mrs from Kasalong. The seat was a couch, leather but cracked. You get to sit on a towel, but if you lean back on the sofa, cracks in the leather could make marks on your back that might take a little time to fade away. Might be difficult to explain how got those.Good to have a name but I also find the BJ bar experience unfulfilling and definitely not good value.
You must have a really suspicious girlfriend if you worry she'll guess you were in a blow job bar based on marks on your back. Could you not just say there were cracks in the sofa of a coffee shop or something?
Sure, but it makes a mockery of a threesome. Putting on one condom is enough of a hassle, changing condoms 2 or 3 times turns the fantasy into a chore. Same thing if a girl wants you to change the condom between vaginal and anal. Giving the condom a quick wipe and putting on some fresh lube should suffice.
I've got some lube here containing two kinds of parabens. Not many germs can survive that.In hospitals they kill bacteria with high temperature steam, I believe. Autoclave. High temperature being the critical thing. That is about the only sure way to kill the bacteria. Even if the condoms had antiseptic chemicals that are not harmful to dick and pussy, they wouldn't really work very well.
Put bacteria into antiseptic liquid. Under the microscope, the some of the bacteria can be seen swimming around quite happily.
If no condoms in a threesome, the girl basically doubles her risk perhaps (or more than doubles it). I am sure some girls will do that for the right money, especially if they are bisexuals that are fucking each other regular. You might want to get all three of you tested first. That might cost a bit, although I hear the Red Cross will test girls for free (I suppose that maybe HIV only).
Good to have a name but I also find the BJ bar experience unfulfilling and definitely not good value.
You must have a really suspicious girlfriend if you worry she'll guess you were in a blow job bar based on marks on your back. Could you not just say there were cracks in the sofa of a coffee shop or something?Wasn't related to my GF, who is not a dectective type, and I would not be likely to be rushing home to her. However the marks can be worse when back is against the sofa with no towel or shirt in between. I could feel the pressure of the cracks or tear. I could guess what the marks would come out like.
I used to have a highly suspicious girl many years ago, who would be right onto any types of evidence that could be found. Was like a bloodhound. LOL Any types of unusual scents is something girls can also detect quite skilfully at times. Bad if have the smell of some girl on you. Sometimes a guy can be too clean when he gets home. LOL Sometimes something needs to be done about that to get back to a suitably normal sweaty body. Long hairs of wrong thickness and colour stuck to your undies can be dynamite too. Fortunately all these problems was long ago for me. Once an ex girl friend of mine found blonde hairs stuck to outside rear view mirror of my car. She demanded an explanation. I did not have one. I certainly had not been with a blonde. No clues.
To all the Mongers and experts here; I appreciate all of your comments and Trip reports. All of you have opened me up to a world that I didn't know existed and one that I really wish I knew about when I was much younger.
The only regret on my part is, where was this forum when I was 24-25. While I was still young, far more virile and horny with little to no attachments or responsibilities?
I am joking here. But finding out about an Adult Disneyland for Males at the ripe old age of 44 while having responsibilities (mortgage and Wife / Kids) really sucks.
I will tell you that I have added going to Bangkok, visiting Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy and getting a sloppy BBBJ in the middle of the bar while downing a beer (among a huge list of things) onto my proverbial "Bucket List". I don't know how I will do it, how old I will be and how much Cialis I will have to take; but as God as my witness. I look forward to crossing "Spending a week at Bangkok and Pattaya" off my list one day in the distant future.
Party on Mongers!
I will continue to live through your Trip reports until I can finally write one of my own for the next newbie that stumbles onto this board.
Member #4591
10-14-17, 03:45
Can anyone name names? Is their any girl there pretty and good body like Yo, but likes to have a Farang cock (not so small) in her pussy ?Here is my report on just what you are looking for.
I had heard some good things about the girls at Kasalomg so decided to give it a try. 12:30 there were about 5-6 ladies working. One was a real spinner. Mint turned out to be 21 going on 22 this month. Small be cup tits and a real nice ass and figure. Chose the 1,700 Baht one hour FS session which compares with Som's heaven. However it's not 700 for a BJ but now 800. The corner VIP room is very big with an old style washroom with a shower in the tub.
Started the session with a mediocre BJ. Mint said she has worked there for 1 year and has a Thai boyfriend whose in the dark. Moved to DATY and what an enjoyable site. She came very good but this seemed to tucker her out. After she exploded, we laid there a few minutes while she caught her breath. Then we moved to sex in multiple positions, cowgirl, doggy, and then mish where I finished. Mint is very tight and concerned about dick size because she is a small girl. Long brown hair down to the small of her back, so sexy. Disappointments were no BB and a little mechanical but overall worth the 1700 to look at her beautiful body.
Looks 8/10.
Body 8/10.
Service 6/10.
Repeat The jury is still out.
Kasalong is a good alternative for Som's and the girls seem a lot better than Wood Bar. More innocent lookimg and not so rough around the edges. Overall worth the 1700.
Like I said, a little mechanical but still well worth it for 1,700 Baht. Slim body, no baby, young, and can take farang cock.
Parabens are a kind of preservative and have no antibacterial effect.Uhm. "These compounds, and their salts, are used primarily for their bactericidal and fungicidal properties". "Parabens are active against a broad spectrum of microorganisms."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraben
Of course there's no 100% magic bullet but I think girls could do better than insist on condom changes. Unless you also agree they should only perform CBJs.
Did she swallow? LOL. I have no idea, at least not with 100% certainty. Clearly these girls are trained not to appear to spit it out, but get rid of it slyly, quickly and efficiently, and soundlessly. So I don't know if it ended up in the towel below very quickly indeed (most likely) or if she got rid of it at the basin after saying something to me (less likely but quite possible). However I am sure these girls are not into swallowing multiple loads per day. Even if I asked to inspect her mouth, not sure if would prove anything if she managed to get rid of it very fast. Magic tricks. Sorry if I burst any bubbles. I remember a few years back, Raptors proudly reporting how his Tulip girl had swallowed, when I knew damn well she never did that. She was clever. Can't see why swallowing is such an interesting thing to guys (influenced by porn little doubt). If it is so good, ask the girl to spit it into your own mouth (you wouldn't want it to go to waste).Cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob as a "surprise" finish (or done secretly) without making the man aware beforehand that she is going to swallow at the finish is a wasted opportunity and does little or nothing to improve the pleasure of the experience. There is almost no reason for the girl to do it that way for the sake of making it a more pleasurable experience for the man other than that she does not spoil the mood afterwards by introducing the rude, insulting and nasty habit of spitting out something right in front of him after his orgasm.
The primary point of cum swallowing is to improve upon the pleasure of the experience DURING the blowjob, his "knowing" all during the blowjob that she will swallow his cum at the finish. And his knowing that she will not spoil the mood of this pro-active delivery of pleasure to him with a rude, insulting and nasty spitting out of what, if she is doing it well, she was apparently so intent upon getting into her mouth in the first place. It has almost nothing to do with "added pleasure" at the instant of swallowing as in a surprise finish or something like that. At that point, after he has already cum, the pleasure possibilities are nearly nil. I am always puzzled by people who claim to know and thing or two about oral sex but miss this most obvious point.
It has nothing to do with exposure to porn. In fact, since porn relies heavily on the viewer "seeing" the money shot, it is rare to see a girl simply swallow the cum at the end as women all around the world routinely did (and still do) long before there were porn videos. Instead, aside from a few standout stars on the subject like Heather Brooke, the girl tends to pull away too soon and for too long in order to "show" the viewer that the man is cumming and, at most, might only lick some of it off her fist to swallow or something like that. That is, in the unfortunately rare occasions when the porn actor isn't reduced to wanking himself off into her mouth. Then, more often than not, the girl still pushes some or most of that cum out in order to "show" the viewer.
No, I would say Cumming On Face (COF) is probably the fairly recent trend that has been influenced by exposure to porn, not ordinary swallowing at the end. And THAT was probably developed in porn in order to accomplish what I was saying about "showing" the man cumming, the money shot.
If you don't think the "knowing" ahead of time that your girl will simply quickly and efficiently swallow that teaspoon of fluid instead of spitting it out enhances the experience immeasurably and that spitting it out runs a real risk of spoiling it, try a turnaround version of it with your lady. Next couple of times you engage in DATY, soon after she has her orgasm, pull away and spit out whatever fluid has emerged from her into a tissue. Or, better yet, stand up, hurry over to the nearest sink and take a good long time to spit, rinse, spit, rinse and repeat to make sure none of it is inadvertently swallowed. I'm betting by the third time your lady has been made aware that you apparently are so revolted by the product of her body that you otherwise seem to be intent on making happen with your mouth that you must get rid of it quickly rather than simply swallow it, you won't be giving her many more orgasms that way.
Can anyone name names? Is their any girl there pretty and good body like Yo, but likes to have a Farang cock (not so small) in her pussy ?The only one of the current better looking day shift girls that I have been with is Minh, who I see has recently colored her very long hair to a somewhat light reddish hue. Minh (that was the spelling she gave me years ago. I don't think she is the same as "Mint" mentioned elsewhere since the other details don't seem to match) is no doubt the most often chosen girl at Kasalong Bar, has been since she arrived there soon after it first opened. I wouldn't be surprised if she is the most often chosen girl in any BJ Bar anywhere in Thailand. One could easily pass by Kasalong Bar during the day many times and not even know she works there because she is the one girl most likely to be kept busy inside. She also provides FS. Have no idea what size cock she is up for these days. Actually, I have never heard of a Kasalong Bar girl who does not provide FS too unless she is on her period. But maybe there have been some working there lately. I don't know Yo so I don't know how Minh compares. I wouldn't say Minh is "skinny", but is of normal weight proportional to her height. She must be about 23 years old now unless she was lying about being 20 years old 3 years ago when I first met her at Kasalong Bar. LOL.
Grandaddy Perp
10-14-17, 05:22
Cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob as a "surprise" finish (or done secretly) without making the man aware beforehand that she is going to swallow at the finish is a wasted opportunity and does little or nothing to improve the pleasure of the experience. There is almost no reason for the girl to do it that way for the sake of making it a more pleasurable experience for the man other than that she does not spoil the mood afterwards by introducing the rude, insulting and nasty habit of spitting out something right in front of him after his orgasm.
The primary point of cum swallowing is to improve upon the pleasure of the experience DURING the blowjob, his "knowing" all during the blowjob that she will swallow his cum at the finish. And his knowing that she will not spoil the mood of this pro-active delivery of pleasure to him with a rude, insulting and nasty spitting out of what, if she is doing it well, she was apparently so intent upon getting into her mouth in the first place. It has almost nothing to do with "added pleasure" at the instant of swallowing as in a surprise finish or something like that. At that point, after he has already cum, the pleasure possibilities are nearly nil. I am always puzzled by people who claim to know and thing or two about oral sex but miss this most obvious point..It's an ego thing. Women could care less because the physical nature of the various sexual acts doesn't really effect their ego. For a man, many of the acts feed ego especially anal, swallowing and bareback sex. There is a sense of accomplishment, of winning, when a woman does or allows these things so it can very much be a more rewarding experience when these activities happen unexpectedly. This 'special' feeling doesn't happen when its expected.
Also, there is a common conception that male ejaculation is much more unpleasant in both taste and texture when compared to a woman's (if she is clean). There is also a demeaning and dirty stigma attached to swallowing cum which further emphasizes the the ego boost when a woman actually consumes yours.
Member #4591
10-14-17, 06:28
Cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob as a "surprise" finish (or done secretly) without making the man aware beforehand that she is going to swallow at the finish is a wasted opportunity and does little or nothing to improve the pleasure of the experience. There is almost no reason for the girl to do it that way for the sake of making it a more pleasurable experience for the man other than that she does not spoil the mood afterwards by introducing the rude, insulting and nasty habit of spitting out something right in front of him after his orgasm.
The primary point of cum swallowing is to improve upon the pleasure of the experience DURING the blowjob, his "knowing" all during the blowjob that she will swallow his cum at the finish. And his knowing that she will not spoil the mood of this pro-active delivery of pleasure to him with a rude, insulting and nasty spitting out of what, if she is doing it well, she was apparently so intent upon getting into her mouth in the first place. It has almost nothing to do with "added pleasure" at the instant of swallowing as in a surprise finish or something like that. At that point, after he has already cum, the pleasure possibilities are nearly nil. I am always puzzled by people who claim to know and thing or two about oral sex but miss this most obvious point.
It has nothing to do with exposure to porn. In fact, since porn relies heavily on the viewer "seeing" the money shot, it is rare to see a girl simply swallow the cum at the end as women all around the world routinely did (and still do) long before there were porn videos. Instead, aside from a few standout stars on the subject like Heather Brooke, the girl tends to pull away too soon and for too long in order to "show" the viewer that the man is cumming and, at most, might only lick some of it off her fist to swallow or something like that. That is, in the unfortunately rare occasions when the porn actor isn't reduced to wanking himself off into her mouth. Then, more often than not, the girl still pushes some or most of that cum out in order to "show" the viewer.
No, I would say Cumming On Face (COF) is probably the fairly recent trend that has been influenced by exposure to porn, not ordinary swallowing at the end. And THAT was probably developed in porn in order to accomplish what I was saying about "showing" the man cumming, the money shot.
If you don't think the "knowing" ahead of time that your girl will simply quickly and efficiently swallow that teaspoon of fluid instead of spitting it out enhances the experience immeasurably and that spitting it out runs a real risk of spoiling it, try a turnaround version of it with your lady. Next couple of times you engage in DATY, soon after she has her orgasm, pull away and spit out whatever fluid has emerged from her into a tissue. Or, better yet, stand up, hurry over to the nearest sink and take a good long time to spit, rinse, spit, rinse and repeat to make sure none of it is inadvertently swallowed. I'm betting by the third time your lady has been made aware that you apparently are so revolted by the product of her body that you otherwise seem to be intent on making happen with your mouth that you must get rid of it quickly rather than simply swallow it, you won't be giving her many more orgasms that way.
The only one of the current better looking day shift girls that I have been with is Minh, who I see has recently colored her very long hair to a somewhat light reddish hue. Minh (that was the spelling she gave me years ago. I don't think she is the same as "Mint" mentioned elsewhere since the other details don't seem to match) is no doubt the most often chosen girl at Kasalong Bar, has been since she arrived there soon after it first opened. I wouldn't be surprised if she is the most often chosen girl in any BJ Bar anywhere in Thailand. One could easily pass by Kasalong Bar during the day many times and not even know she works there because she is the one girl most likely to be kept busy inside. She also provides FS. Have no idea what size cock she is up for these days. Actually, I have never heard of a Kasalong Bar girl who does not provide FS too unless she is on her period. But maybe there have been some working there lately. I don't know Yo so I don't know how Minh compares. I wouldn't say Minh is "skinny", but is of normal weight proportional to her height. She must be about 23 years old now unless she was lying about being 20 years old 3 years ago when I first met her at Kasalong Bar. LOL.I would bet it's the same girl I saw but she just lied about how long she had worked there for. She may have even started when she was 18 but had to lie for obvious reasons. I did not ask her how to spell her name. It sounds like Mint or Min like I said. Too similar to not be the same girl as there is maybe only 1 other girl there that is doable but didn't take her the last time I passed by. Anyways Syggs, if there are 2 then for 1,700 Baht, you can't go wrong with either one, but I suspect they are one in the same. Given the fact she lies to her Thai boyfriend about working there, I have no doubt in my mind she lies to customers.
The only one of the current better looking day shift girls that I have been with is Minh, who I see has recently colored her very long hair to a somewhat light reddish hue. Minh (that was the spelling she gave me years ago. I don't think she is the same as "Mint" mentioned elsewhere since the other details don't seem to match) is no doubt the most often chosen girl at Kasalong Bar, has been since she arrived there soon after it first opened.CrazyH had two girls name Min a few years back. One with a silent T (I. E. Mint) and one without the T. Confusing. Both are quite common in Thailand. Mint is a borrowed English word obviously. Almost all Thai words ending in a double consonant, the second one becomes silent. So Benz sounds like Ben. Mint sounds like Min. Not sure what adding an H to the end is supposed to do. Minh looks more like a Cambodian or Korean name.
I would bet it's the same girl I saw but she just lied about how long she had worked there for. She may have even started when she was 18 but had to lie for obvious reasons. I did not ask her how to spell her name. It sounds like Mint or Min like I said. Too similar to not be the same girl as there is maybe only 1 other girl there that is doable but didn't take her the last time I passed by. Anyways Syggs, if there are 2 then for 1,700 Baht, you can't go wrong with either one, but I suspect they are one in the same. Given the fact she lies to her Thai boyfriend about working there, I have no doubt in my mind she lies to customers.She very well could be the same. When I first read your quoted report before I sensed that you were very impressed by her and immediately assumed you were talking about Minh. But there have been girls named "Mint" working in the BJ Bars off and on too. One in particular was highly touted on the message boards, stopped working for a while, might have returned. Minh is not very fluent in English. Has a lovely face that sometimes shows evidence of mild acne depending on the time of month but judicial use of make-up hides it pretty well.
Imo, she would definitely be among the top two girls working the dayshift in terms of looks, but I have seen another 2-3 girls off and on who I consider "doable". Not exactly possible to say only two "doable" girls working there unless you are certain you saw every girl in their line up regardless of their being on holiday, out sick or busy in a ST room with a customer or two.
HorseTrader
10-14-17, 07:10
Walked by Thermae at about 22:00. They were closed but about 60 girls were on the steps, landings, and sidewalk. Many were the same girls that were working inside the prior night. Nice selection.
Moved on to Soi Cowboy. I don't know that area well enough to understand what is typical, but this was odd. Crazy House was packed near the door but girls were wearing clothes and no alcohol was being sold. The girls outside the various bars were pulling me in, as expected. But as soon as I got through the doors they explained their no beer before midnight rule. OK, I understand. The odd part came when I asked about bar fine for a girl and she told me she would not go on a bar fine until after midnight. By the time midnight came, it was raining hard and she didn't want to deal with the rain before arriving at the taxi. Probably the truth was she was having 2nd thoughts about the 2500 baht deal we arranged. Or perhaps she lied to me when she said she loved me. Imagine that, a Thai bar girl telling a lie to a farang customer.
Jogged back to Thermae and found about 10 available girls under cover from the rain. Cut a 1500 baht deal with a friendly one. Her performance was dismal and I won't repeat.
How can you talk or even enjoy being in there without earplugs? You would think that they would play seductive romantic music. That would help turn you on. I mentioned it to a waitress and she told me, "you can leave". So I left.
RL.I agree with Robert. The music is bloody awful. Hard to believe that people like this kind of rubbish. Although the music is crap (if you want to call it music) the girls make up for it. In fact I don't even hear it after a while.
I had a girl at Billboard try that same scam on me. But I agree that CH is the worst place for that and pretty much every girl in the place tries that scam. CH and Billboard are the only 2 places I've seen girls try that dishonest scam though. Most bars aren't that unethical.With Billboard and CH being my two most preferable bars I usually ask them what they want to drink. If they ask me for a T&see it will depend on my mood whether I allow them to have two drinks or not but the times I didn't allow to let them have two drinks it never happened that they walked off.
Last month I sat down in Shark and one of the girls I went LT with the night before just came over and sat next to me, telling me that she's coming back right away after going first on stage for some reason which I didn't care about. 5 Minutes later all in a sudden there's a shot of Tequila on my little table so I asked the waitress / mamasan for who that was. Needles to say it was my LT girl who told the waitress to bring her the drink. Now I don't mind a sort of gutsy move like that so after a while she came and sit down next to me and I told her that next time she better be asking for it first. After my speech she asked me to have a coke to go along with the Tequila which I declined. As the waitress was surprised I ventilated my complaint which she seemingly understood. No mood changes whatsoever nor did I took her out for LT. She was way too drunk and didn't wanted to have my room smell like vomit again. LOL.
I believe in Billboard that girls from the bubble bath area will not come and sit with you until you buy them at least two drinks. These are rules. So that is a little different, but I like it less as is not optional.Now that you mention it I remember when I sat down in BB last month that, when I wanted to pick a girl from the stage to come and sit next to me, the waiter told me that I will have to pay for 2 LD. I asked him why that was the case and he showed me some sort of a laminated A4 paper where it was written down. Can't remember exactly what was written but basically you pay 2 LD for girls that are on stage which is any stage. Not certain anymore if that would only be during a certain time as I recall somebody saying to me that they're doing it in the early hours when it's not that busy yet.
Anyway, I just waited until she finished on stage and she came over for a drink. She only chose one drink by the way. An orange juice as per usual. Great looking girl for my taste. Was even so polite to ask to remove my jeans out of the bathroom when I took her for LT a long time ago. When asking her why she mentioned that she doesn't wanted to have my jeans in the bathroom while she's using the toilet she told me that I would suspect her from stealing any money. Good girl with good attitude. At least for the time being. LOL.
Uhm. "These compounds, and their salts, are used primarily for their bactericidal and fungicidal properties". "Parabens are active against a broad spectrum of microorganisms."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraben
Of course there's no 100% magic bullet but I think girls could do better than insist on condom changes. Unless you also agree they should only perform CBJs.Doesn't work against E. Coli which is nasty if it gets into the vagina.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02772248.2017.1300905
Come on man, do you really think any woman wants a shitty condom in her vagina?
Uhm. "These compounds, and their salts, are used primarily for their bactericidal and fungicidal properties". "Parabens are active against a broad spectrum of microorganisms."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraben
Of course there's no 100% magic bullet but I think girls could do better than insist on condom changes.Hum most dangerous STDs people are worried about are viral related, not bacterial related.
Your lube is not going to protect a girl against hepatitis or HIV. Yet going from 1 girl's vagina to another with a bit of blood from the previous girl does create a serious risk for the second one.
Hum most dangerous STDs people are worried about are viral related, not bacterial related.
Your lube is not going to protect a girl against hepatitis or HIV. Yet going from 1 girl's vagina to another with a bit of blood from the previous girl does create a serious risk for the second one.Actually with multi-drug resistant gonorrhea and mycoplasma genitalium your real worries are from bacteria. And the latter is quite easily passed orally. Have a buddy now who is on his 4th round of anti-biotics and still can't eradicate it. And the infectious disease specialist told him that it was spreading rapidly in SE Asia. I've never been worried about HIV, but these two really have my attention.
Dextro Sol
10-14-17, 18:49
Was in Silom area today and went past SOL and saw one not so bad looking girl there. Took a beer at Harlem bar before I got to the deed, and what happens?? Another guy took her. So I went for a walk and when I came back she was available. Name was Sai and she did her job in a good way. I kinda like that sleezy place sometimes. .
Dextro Sol
10-14-17, 18:52
Actually with multi-drug resistant gonorrhea and mycoplasma genitalium your real worries are from bacteria. And the latter is quite easily passed orally. Have a buddy now who is on his 4th round of anti-biotics and still can't eradicate it. And the infectious disease specialist told him that it was spreading rapidly in SE Asia. I've never been worried about HIV, but these two really have my attention.So no more blowjobs without condom?? Take it the safe way!!
So no more blowjobs without condom?? Take it the safe way!!Nope, will still get BBBJ. Risky? Yep, but FFS can't remove all the pleasure from the hobby.
Actually with multi-drug resistant gonorrhea and mycoplasma genitalium your real worries are from bacteria. And the latter is quite easily passed orally. Have a buddy now who is on his 4th round of anti-biotics and still can't eradicate it. And the infectious disease specialist told him that it was spreading rapidly in SE Asia. I've never been worried about HIV, but these two really have my attention.Yow! I have not even heard of the later one so you got my attention, being a DATY specialist. I will certainly read up on that now. I also agree that, while it is very hard to catch HIV, it is also extremely easy to catch some others, so the focus on HIV maybe a little bit misplaced. Incidence of new HIV infections in Thailand has been on the decline for many years. So it is much less likely to catch than say 17 years ago. Incidence of some others may be on the rise.
Yup, second that. I'm also on antibiotics again. Same like during my last visit. Must be chlamydia again looking at incubation time and discharge. Really nasty; last time took me the whole 7 days to get away, and that time I had a Thai GF and maybe even passed it to her. This time didn't even catch it from a working girl but a freebie. Really nasty these bacteria, and might ruin your whole trip.
Yup, second that. I'm also on antibiotics again. Same like during my last visit. Must be chlamydia again looking at incubation time and discharge. Really nasty; last time took me the whole 7 days to get away, and that time I had a Thai GF and maybe even passed it to her. This time didn't even catch it from a working girl but a freebie. Really nasty these bacteria, and might ruin your whole trip.1st time I had chlamydia I was taking like 4 boxes of doxycycline before going to specialist who wrote me zithromax (strong really strong antibiotic). This cured it, but I never want to go to that experience again since I couldn't get a nights sleep for more then 30 mins straight (painful erections and when you sleep, he wakes) . Since then I had a couple of chlamydia infections but nothing even remote to that one. I have zithromax ready at hand at 1st even remote sign (had 2 times infection without clear symptoms) . I now know the remote signs and I use condom for anything but oral, but even then it has happened in the heat of the moment (I mean condom) .
Member #4591
10-16-17, 06:14
Got that urge again and headed over to T-Det on Saphan Kwai. This time it was 2:30 AM and the place was shutting down but they still let me in. There were a few customers lingering around but mostly the girls were sitting and chatting while getting changed. Yes, you heard that right. They were changing right inside the club area not in the change rooms. I spotted a real stunner with dyed blond hair, her Facebook photos attached. Immediately called the momason over to arrange the deal. Anyways, this girl would not go back to my place but agreed to use the ST hotel across the road. For reference, the ST room fee is included when you pay the bar the 2,500. In the room, mediocre blow job but that's not what I was there for. I wanted to tap that ass. I flipped her over and started with DATY. At first she was saying Maow which in Thai means no or don't want so I slowed my tongue strokes down and licked her slowly from top to bottom. This calmed her down and before I knew it, she was moving her pelvis up and down to match my tongue strokes. This kept up until she came violently. Then I mounted her in mish, no mention of a condom, but she started to complain about the pain from my dick. I grabbed some lube and flipped her over for some glorious doggy style action where I finished. What an ass on this girl. Her name was Tina photos attached from her Facebook as we still keep in touch. One with blonde hair all done up Japanese style cosplay and one more natural with a different hair style and colour. Not a GFE or PSE but I was just happy to tap such a gorgeous and sexy lady.
Arrived home after my session still feeling horny at about 4 AM so I booked Venus on Smooci. She is listed with My Princess Bangkok and New Bangkok escorts. Photos attached from both their sites and both linking to Smooci. I'm sure this is the same agency with two sites and two different names. Her rating was 3. 2 or 3. 8 and normally this might be a red flag but I'm normally good with these types of girls. This was my 3rd time booking through Smooci and the service this time was excellent. The agency called me 3 times and also confirmed by SMS multiple times. When Venus arrived, I was happy with her looks and body. After a shared shower we moved to the bed. Shower was mechanical with no BJ, she just cleaned me up. Warning sign. We spoke together in Thai and then she started giving me a BBBJ, asking me before if I wanted condom or not. This didn't last too long as I wanted to taste that nice pussy. I flipped her over and tried all my techniques but she would not cum. At one point I thought she was almost there but I think it was some bad acting. After giving up, I moved to enter her in mish after being reminded of the comdom multiple times. I use a Japanese brand in a silver box with 003 written on the box with black letters. They are very thin as I can't cum with other brands. After putting on the condom, I tried to enter her but she stopped me. She started inspecting the condom from top to bottom. This lasted for a good 5 minutes, which really ruined the mood. Mish position was getting boring as I was just turned off by the condom fiasco so I flipped her over and really fucked her hard in doggy until finish. The two hours was no where near up but she wanted to go and I let her. Now I understand why her rating was lower than most of the girls. Mechanical, worried, and never stays the full session. Girls can be cautious about condoms and such, this is no problem. But when we call an escort, we want the session to be enjoyable and we want the girl to at least pretend she's having a good time and enjoys her job. There are ways to do this kind of stuff and still make the customer feel like you enjoy your job. On a side note. This girl was so serious and uptight, she asked me to book her a taxi on Grab. As I booked the taxi I said please wait as no driver has answered yet. After I booked the taxi, 2 showed up asking for me downstairs. She had also booked one without saying. Just happy to get her out. Damage was 3,000 Baht. No tip. Must pay before the session begins.
By this time it was close to morning. I had a quick meeting from 9-10 amd then I planned to visit Snow White. I arrived at 11:00 to find only 2 ladies. Audi, who was busy with a customer and Aom. Please see the link for the newbies. http://snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html.
I was in the mood for a real PSE after my previous 2 sessions and Aom did not disappoint. Nice BJ in shower and on the bed for non stop PSE action with rimming, slurpy BBJ, DATY, and multiple positions. I'm not a fan of A+ so I can't comment on that. After my 1st pop she gave a decent massage and then moved back on top of me for round 2. Oops forgot the comdom for round 2. My bad. I could not manage a second pop with her since I had managed 3 pops already since 2:30 AM. Damage paid directly to Aom, the lady after my session. Damage was 2,200 plus 800 Baht tip.
I had been to BKK few days back. First day went to the alley near soi 7 where Eden is. Entered the place opposite foot massage shop. A girl named Nam took my hands. She was young, sexy and gave good service. Though there was tub, no action in tub and no massage. Went for sex straight. She was very active cooperative and good mannered. Was open to all. Also offered anal for extra charges. I did not quote for that. She said she can also come to hotel for extra fees. The house was THB 1500 + 500 to be paid to the girl directly. I went at 2 pm and only few girls were there. The place lacks any ambiance, basic facilities and basic cleanliness only. But the girl was good.
It is a real five star world with extravagant lavish facilities and great ambience from huge lobby to play rooms. The girls display at the center of lobby is real eye candy. Worth to see such a bevy of beauties.
Lot of papasans and mamasans like executies in a 5* star hotel. When we enter one papa san attends us and we will be seated in plush sofas. Then they give girls rate menu. Stars from 9600 to 15000 THB.
Live music is played in the lobby and drinks at exorbitant prices. I took a girl of 9600. She was young around 20 years old, beautiful and with slender body. Fluent English. The room is very plush. Action in Jacuzzi for long followed by great sex on bed. Bare back BJ DATY and all except anal. A real pleasant service. Papasan asks for tip, like wise lady who serve expensive water and soft drinks in the room. Girl also asked for tip, gave 500 for her extra good attitude. Though very expensive, once in a life time visit is OK.
I went to Chrome bar opposite Eden club. There were about 7 girls available. I took girl named Nuchs (no: 55) who was good looking and gave good smile. Aged around 25 years she was very cooperative and had a really customer friendly attitude. There it is a type of nuru massage followed by full service. Action is on a big plastic bed place on the floor. After washing she apply a type of gel on our body and hers. Gives massage with her breast, pussy and ass,. Sex was also very good with her. She spoke english also. House charge is 2000 THB. She said she will get 1000 out of that. She did not ask for any tip after the deed. But gave her 500 THB for being such a very good friendly girl. Anybody visit BKK, try that girl Nuch. You will not be disappointed.
Mamasan name is Bheem. Owners of Chrome bar and Wood bar (opposite) are same, she said. Nuchs duty time is 11 am to 11 pm. She is open to all except DFK and anal.
Took a stroll around Nana / Asok, and it was fairly quiet around midnight (perhaps because it was a Sunday). I tried going to Thermae first, as I'd never been, but it was closed by the time I got there, I think. I'm still not 100% sure where it is as I didn't see anything called Thermae, but there was a hotel where there were a ton of "girls" milling about outside and just sitting around.
It appeared to be about 90% ladyboys, but it's really hard to tell sometimes. A few of the girls were very pretty and looked almost Japanese-- are these real girls?
Did not make it all the way to Nana Plaza, decided to turn back to Soi Cowboy. As I got to the entrance of the soi, a cute bargirl caught my eye at one of the tiny street bars. Had a drink and chatted a bit, both bar girls behind the counter were cute, one looked almost middle eastern / indian, and she had good english (Jenny, I think). The other was more traditional Isaan Thai looking, and more lively (could not catch her name, something like Nut? Well, she wanted to me to barfine her and take her to a club (Insanity). I thought, why not, let's try something new. Only 500 barfine.
We hopped in a car, and apparently didn't have to pay because they all know her. While waiting at a light suddenly changed to Holiday Inn. Entered a club where all the staff knew her. 300 pp entrance including one beer / drink. Pretty empty around 1:30 when we arrived, but more people showed up later. A mix of what appeared to be real girls and ladyboys as coyote dancers. Lots of drunk people, and loud club music. My girl loved dancing and it showed-- felt like going out with a date, lots of grinding, some kissing, hands everywhere.
Staff kept coming around with 100 thb shots of "tequila" (tasted more like rum, and I only did one). They of course want you to buy a round for the staff. So each time 3-4 shots. I know I was getting played a bit but was having fun so why not. My girl was really small, and skinny, but I was 95% sure she was a she and she was also quite cute to me with a spinner figure. We headed out and to my hotel, but this is where things went downhill. We never discussed anything for ST or LT or anything, but I was planning on leaving her 2 K at least if we did the deed.
When we got back, I took a quick rinse, and when I got out of the bathroom, she was nearly passed out and moaning about being drunk and dizzy. Get her some water, but she refuses to drink, and I can only understand 40% of what she says anyway without being drunk LOL. She eventually runs into the bathroom, I think to throw up, and refuses to come out-- at this point it's nearing 4 am and I say through the door that she should just take a nap and she'll feel better. More indecipherable babbling. I certainly wasn't thinking about doing anything with her at this point, just wanted her to come out and sleep it off-- but she stayed in the bathroom all night while I slept on the bed (after locking up my wallet LOL).
Morning comes, and she rushes out of the bathroom, grabs her stuff, and is gone like that (all the while babbling to herself). Still scratching my head on that one. Total damage for the night, 3 k and nothing really to show but a funny story (1 k at the counter bar, 2 k at the club). My fault for letting her drink too much.
So more experienced members in BKK-- is she a girl that I can takeout for ST? What was the deal with going to the club? Kickback? Helping her friends who are staff?
At the counter where she worked, there were about 6-10 girls who were clearly for takeout, but most of them were definitely ladyboys. She also mentioned to me on the way to the club that she is offended that so many people ask her if she's a ladyboy LOL.
Maybe I'll try to find her again one of these nights.
We went to Nana first. The place did not have that vibe and welcoming attitude. So went to Soi Cowboy. It was really fun and frolic there. On two nights we spend more time in Dolls House. Though the girls were not great looking but just average they were very friendly. Two of the girls who sat on my lap allowed fingering for long until their next dance session. After midnight there was a lesbian show by two girls.
Many of the ladies were dancing full nude. There was nothing sort of billing scam there. Once the LD and our drinks are served they give item wise bill. So easy to check. We also went Baccara. Lot of pussy and ass shown. At Deja vU with scanty panties, at Kiss they wore full panties. At Suziewong too ugly girls and boring sex shows. At Shark they did not issue item wise bill and instead gave a consolidated bill for us and LD. That was a scam. The whole street has a charm and welcoming ambiance and not like NP. We almost spend 5 hours each day at visiting different bars.
Dextro Sol
10-16-17, 07:49
Took a stroll around Nana / Asok, and it was fairly quiet around midnight (perhaps because it was a Sunday). I tried going to Thermae first, as I'd never been, but it was closed by the time I got there, I think. I'm still not 100% sure where it is as I didn't see anything called Thermae, but there was a hotel where there were a ton of "girls" milling about outside and just sitting around.
Strange story, hope you have better luck next time!! About Thermae, if you have never been there, it's easy to find. It is in the bottom of Hotel Ruamchitt between soi 13 and 15, closer to soi 15. There is always a crowd of FL: s waiting in the sidewalk and outside the hotel. When you turn to the hotel, Thermae is to the right downstairs. They close at 1 AM. I went in yesterday, and I estimate it to be somewhere between 150-200 ladies inside standing tight around the walls and around the center bar disk. What supriced me was there was so many very young looking girls. 99 % of the people there were young to middle age Korean guys.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 11:36
It is a real five star world with extravagant lavish facilities and great ambience from huge lobby to play rooms. The girls display at the center of lobby is real eye candy. Worth to see such a bevy of beauties.
Lot of papasans and mamasans like executies in a 5* star hotel. When we enter one papa san attends us and we will be seated in plush sofas. Then they give girls rate menu. Stars from 9600 to 15000 THB.
Live music is played in the lobby and drinks at exorbitant prices. I took a girl of 9600. She was young around 20 years old, beautiful and with slender body. Fluent English. The room is very plush. Action in Jacuzzi for long followed by great sex on bed. Bare back BJ DATY and all except anal. A real pleasant service. Papasan asks for tip, like wise lady who serve expensive water and soft drinks in the room. Girl also asked for tip, gave 500 for her extra good attitude. Though very expensive, once in a life time visit is OK.My friend, I'm glad you had a good time but you were dooped! The Lord does not start at 9,600. They showed you a fake price list with inflated rates. Either because of the way you looked or you nationality. I can't be sure on what the real reason was, I'm just speculating. I have been to The lord countless times and it always starts around 5,000 Baht and goes up from there. And yes, I fall under the category of white Caucasian. The stereotype the Ratchada parlours have is to charge the white Caucasian men a 500 Baht surcharge but because I start off by speaking Thai, I can normally avoid that. For some reason, I always got the Asian punter process shown to be with the exception of The old Amsterdam. The reason for this is the girls want an extra 500 because they are dick scared and the farang men are often very picky and high maintenance. These are not my words but the words of a few of the girls I spoke with during our session.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 12:10
I don't know what it is with Billboard but it's the only Go go I have had continuous issues at. Always problems and miscommunications. This time I chose Gift # 131 from the Jacuzzi side. A very young looking 31 year old with an ass to die for for. There were plenty of younger girls there but for some reason, I wanted her. Everything started off great. Bought her a couple of LDs and we fooled around dancing a bit. She seemed like a fun girl. I then asked if she wanted to go with me and she said yes. I turned to the server and asked about the bar fine. Mind you it was about 2:45 AM at the time. The server said I lay the bar fine to the lady. This was news to me because In my 6 years in BKK, this has never been the case. I went with the flow and bought her a few more drinks and then asked her to go change. The bar then shut down and they asked me to wait outside for the lady. When she came out, we talked about getting a taxi back to my place. After arriving at my home, she refused to come out of the taxi. She said next time. I was like what? But too drunk to care so just left. Anyways, with their demands of a two LD minimum, even when they know I will spend more and stuff like this, I think my billboard days are over. The other 99.9% of the Go go bars in the city are easy to navigate and I never have any of the issues I have ever had at this place. Yes the girls are hot and most are well under 30 years old but it's just not worth the hassle and the aggravation of all their game playing and awkwardness regarding the drinks and barfines.
Hi guys,
Are these still banned, at least last summer difficult to find.
Back at BKK soon and last time didn't find gel anywhere.
I don't know what it is with Billboard but it's the only Go go I have had continuous issues at. Always problems and miscommunications. This time I chose Gift # 131 from the Jacuzzi side. A very young looking 31 year old with an ass to die for for. There were plenty of younger girls there but for some reason, I wanted her. Everything started off great. Bought her a couple of LDs and we fooled around dancing a bit. She seemed like a fun girl. I then asked if she wanted to go with me and she said yes. I turned to the server and asked about the bar fine. Mind you it was about 2:45 AM at the time. The server said I lay the bar fine to the lady. This was news to me because In my 6 years in BKK, this has never been the case. I went with the flow and bought her a few more drinks and then asked her to go change. The bar then shut down and they asked me to wait outside for the lady. When she came out, we talked about getting a taxi back to my place. After arriving at my home, she refused to come out of the taxi. She said next time. I was like what? But too drunk to care so just left. Anyways, with their demands of a two LD minimum, even when they know I will spend more and stuff like this, I think my billboard days are over. The other 99.9% of the Go go bars in the city are easy to navigate and I never have any of the issues I have ever had at this place. Yes the girls are hot and most are well under 30 years old but it's just not worth the hassle and the aggravation of all their game playing and awkwardness regarding the drinks and barfines.Does she have white skin?
Member #4591
10-16-17, 13:54
Does she have white skin?More white than most of the ladies working there and that's why I chose her. I would not say as white as some of the Ratchada massage girls.
I don't know what it is with Billboard but it's the only Go go I have had continuous issues at. Always problems and miscommunications. This time I chose Gift # 131 from the Jacuzzi side. A very young looking 31 year old with an ass to die for for. There were plenty of younger girls there but for some reason, I wanted her. Everything started off great. Bought her a couple of LDs and we fooled around dancing a bit. She seemed like a fun girl. I then asked if she wanted to go with me and she said yes. I turned to the server and asked about the bar fine. Mind you it was about 2:45 AM at the time. The server said I lay the bar fine to the lady. This was news to me because In my 6 years in BKK, this has never been the case. I went with the flow and bought her a few more drinks and then asked her to go change. The bar then shut down and they asked me to wait outside for the lady. When she came out, we talked about getting a taxi back to my place. After arriving at my home, she refused to come out of the taxi. She said next time. I was like what? But too drunk to care so just left. Anyways, with their demands of a two LD minimum, even when they know I will spend more and stuff like this, I think my billboard days are over. The other 99.9% of the Go go bars in the city are easy to navigate and I never have any of the issues I have ever had at this place. Yes the girls are hot and most are well under 30 years old but it's just not worth the hassle and the aggravation of all their game playing and awkwardness regarding the drinks and barfines.Did you discuss anything at all in the taxi that made her change her mind?
I don't really understand about the BF. Did you actually pay it to anyone? I am guessing this girl had something she wanted to go to at this time of night (who knows what. Maybe a birthday party) and that she possibly did not intend to go with you at all in reality. Unless there was some reason to make her change her mind.
I always give BFs to the girl. She in turn gives it to the mamasan or whoever I don't care. Sometimes the girl returns with change. At CH the mamasan usually returns with change because she wants a tip. Actually in Crazy H these days, the mamasan usually comes back with a BF bill of 700 to have you sign it, and then returns a second time with the change. All charges have a slip for customer to sign to avoid money disputes that were frequent in former times. It is possible to still calculate the bill wrong with a calculator. Fortunately I can quickly add in my head (unlike most Thais) so I know what the bill should be.
I think it is risky to get bargirls so late at night. They can be a bit drunk, just as one possible problem, or are just ready to go home. I think it is much better to have a girl BFed by 9. 30 PM. I recall a fabulous girl from CH who I took early, and she was very happy (and performed good as well as stunning) because she could then head off to a party in Pattaya with money in hand much earlier than she was expecting to be able to go.
I have only BFed one girl at Billboard (that I can remember) and she was great. Repeated a few times. Was on the carousel. However I recognise I got lucky. She was extremely lovey dovey in the bar, so chemistry was working. Long gone and has Farang BF now no doubt.
From Twisters, a mixed bag. One good girl gone, and two crappy girls. Had 2 good girls from Mercury both gone and I see they have LBs there instead now.
From Spankies, one good girl and one very bad.
So it's not easy in Nana Plaza to find the good girls. You really have to look for a very good chemistry in the bar, and don't bother if there is the slightest sign of reluctance in any way. Guys would know these things already of course. I just agree it is not easy. I rarely take bargirls on a first meeting any more. It's just too risky. All of my current bargirls were never taken the first time I met them. A girl has to be a super stunner for me to risk it on first meeting these days. Even then I need to feel very special chemistry, I think. I never get drunk first as that may spoil my stubbornness and care in selection.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 14:10
Got that urge again and headed over to T-Det on Saphan Kwai. This time it was 2:30 AM and the place was shutting down but they still let me in. There were a few customers lingering around but mostly the girls were sitting and chatting while getting changed. Yes, you heard that right. They were changing right inside the club area not in the change rooms. I spotted a real stunner with dyed blond hair, her Facebook photos attached. Immediately called the momason over to arrange the deal. Anyways, this girl would not go back to my place but agreed to use the ST hotel across the road. For reference, the ST room fee is included when you pay the bar the 2,500. In the room, mediocre blow job but that's not what I was there for. I wanted to tap that ass. I flipped her over and started with DATY. At first she was saying Maow which in Thai means no or don't want so I slowed my tongue strokes down and licked her slowly from top to bottom. This calmed her down and before I knew it, she was moving her pelvis up and down to match my tongue strokes. This kept up until she came violently. Then I mounted her in mish, no mention of a condom, but she started to complain about the pain from my dick. I grabbed some lube and flipped her over for some glorious doggy style action where I finished. What an ass on this girl. Her name was Tina photos attached from her Facebook as we still keep in touch. One with blonde hair all done up Japanese style cosplay and one more natural with a different hair style and colour. Not a GFE or PSE but I was just happy to tap such a gorgeous and sexy lady.I have just received a few requests for Tina's Facebook by PM. I want to be clear that if I don't know you from your extensive contributions to the Thailand forum or you have a proven history of massive contributions on another thread that impresses the shit out of me, I will not share any of the ladies contact info with you. Please don't bother sending the request. Thank you and I hope you all understand. I provide enough information for most people to track down the ladies in my posts on their own. For example, in my post about Tina, I provided her photo with 2 hair colours, name of the bar, and the location of the bar. That should be enough.
NamasteParis
10-16-17, 14:12
After arriving at my home, she refused to come out of the taxi. She said next time. I was like what? But too drunk to care so just left.You should report that to the Billboard manager / mamasan, and ask for your BF reimbursment.
You should report that to the Billboard manager / mamasan, and ask for your BF reimbursment.The big fat mamasan in Billboard is a crook. Fired from at least two bars that I know of, Crazy H, and Mercury.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 14:16
Did you discuss anything at all in the taxi that made her change her mind? I don't really understand about the BF. Did you actually pay it to anyone? That's the thing. I never paid any bar fine. I asked her if she wanted to go with me. The same question I ask every other lady I want to bar fine at every other Go go I have went to. I told the server I wanted to bar fine her and she said pay the girl directly outside. I thought this was the strangest thing but went with the flow because of the late hour. The other places all give me a bill for the Bar fine or at least wrote it down on a piece of paper. Sometimes I give it to the staff or momasan and other times gove it to the girl inside the club and she lays the bar, or it is included on the bill with my drinks to pay. Never this half ass bullshit I always get from Billboard.
1st time I had chlamydia I was taking like 4 boxes of doxycycline before going to specialist who wrote me zithromax (strong really strong antibiotic). This cured it, but I never want to go to that experience again since I couldn't get a nights sleep for more then 30 mins straight (painful erections and when you sleep, he wakes) . Since then I had a couple of chlamydia infections but nothing even remote to that one. I have zithromax ready at hand at 1st even remote sign (had 2 times infection without clear symptoms) . I now know the remote signs and I use condom for anything but oral, but even then it has happened in the heat of the moment (I mean condom) .There's two antibiotic treatments available: one is taking 100 MG of Doxycycline twice daily for seven days, the other taking 1000 MG (1 g) of Azithromycin (which is sold in Thailand as Zithromax) as a single dose. While both are supposed to do the job, research actually found a tiny higher failure rate in the Azithromycin-treatment (not much though; see here: http://www.jwatch.org/na39903/2015/12/23/azithromycin-or-doxycycline-chlamydia-trachomatis). Funny enough, last time I had it, the doctor here prescribed both, the single dose of 1 g Azithromycin and on top of that Doxycycline for seven days. This time, I didn't go to see a doctor, but prescribed myself the single dose of 1 g Azithromycin myself and hope it'll work. However, looking at how long it took last time, and reading about other cases where it didn't go away for even longer, and reading about potential resistance against these antibiotics, I'm pretty scared about it. It sucks because I love bareback. Surprisingly, when I was living here ten years ago, I fucked bareback for almost five years and only got Gonorrhea and genital warts once, now Chlamydia twice within just a year. Seems like that shit is spreading more.
NamasteParis
10-16-17, 14:28
Hi! What's now the best place to convert Euro notes to Baht in BKK? Thanks.
Mamasan name is Bheem. Owners of Chrome bar and Wood bar (opposite) are same, she said. Nuchs duty time is 11 am to 11 pm. She is open to all except DFK and anal.Nuchs looks a little bit more than 25. LOL I could be wrong. My GF looks great at nearly 40. On website I would choose number 9 as she looks more natural instead of doll faced like many others. However I also prefer girls that are a "barrel of laughs" so maybe she would be too serious.
Mamasan could be naugthy for discussing the ownership. Smoke and mirrors. LOL However I will be very surprised if owners are not the same as Annies (or almost identical shareholders).
Member #4591
10-16-17, 14:30
Hi! What's now the best place to convert Euro notes to Baht in BKK? Thanks.Please post this question in the General thread or check out another forum not related to this hobby. There are plenty of them on the internet with one obvious one called Thai Visa dot com.
That's the thing. I never paid any bar fine. I asked her if she wanted to go with me. The same question I ask every other lady I want to bar fine at every other Go go I have went to. I told the server I wanted to bar fine her and she said pay the girl directly outside. I thought this was the strangest thing but went with the flow because of the late hour. The other places all give me a bill for the Bar fine or at least wrote it down on a piece of paper. Sometimes I give it to the staff or momasan and other times gove it to the girl inside the club and she lays the bar, or it is included on the bill with my drinks to pay. Never this half ass bullshit I always get from Billboard.I guess the bar was officially closed, and therefore a BF could not be taken directly. The bar paperwork all done. Not my favourite bar by any means. It is very dark in there. They prefer you cannot see the girls too clearly except in the bath suds area. I did buy a bath girl her two drinks once but chemistry wasn't good enough to take her, despite really great tits.
I have just received a few requests for Tina's Facebook by PM. I want to be clear that if I don't know you from your extensive contributions to the Thailand forum or you have a proven history of massive contributions on another thread that impresses the shit out of me, I will not share any of the ladies contact info with you. Please don't bother sending the request. Thank you and I hope you all understand. I provide enough information for most people to track down the ladies in my posts on their own. For example, in my post about Tina, I provided her photo with 2 hair colours, name of the bar, and the location of the bar. That should be enough.Gee, I wonder what it was about your description of the session you had with Tina or her photos that triggered so much unusually keen PM interest in hooking up with her. Maybe it was the "Not a GFE or PSE" comment. Or maybe it's the eyeglasses. LOL. Hmm.
BTW, I had a very long run of bad experiences with Billboard girls too, mentioned it here a few times, and only hung in there and kept trying every couple of months or so out of stubborn curiosity to see just how many go-go dancers from the same club I could barfine in a row and not even get off. I think I got to about 9 from there, but not exactly in a row since I vaguely recall having one middling finish with one of them sometime after #5 or so.
However, suddenly something changed and I have managed to have 4-5 pretty good and very satisfying experiences with as many different Billboard girls lately, including a sexy bathtub honey. Not totally sure what changed any more than I understood why that lousy run went on for so long. And I am fully aware it could go back to another bad run again starting the next time I go there to shop for a girl.
Hi! What's now the best place to convert Euro notes to Baht in BKK? Thanks.The best money changer is Superrich. They have various branches across Bangkok; you'll get the best rates at their main branch on Rajdamri Road opposite of Central World.
Strange story, hope you have better luck next time!! About Thermae, if you have never been there, it's easy to find. It is in the bottom of Hotel Ruamchitt between soi 13 and 15, closer to soi 15. There is always a crowd of FL: s waiting in the sidewalk and outside the hotel. When you turn to the hotel, Thermae is to the right downstairs. They close at 1 AM. I went in yesterday, and I estimate it to be somewhere between 150-200 ladies inside standing tight around the walls and around the center bar disk. What supriced me was there was so many very young looking girls. 99 % of the people there were young to middle age Korean guys.Thanks for confirming-- Yes, that's the place where I saw lots of girls milling about outside, I guess since it was closed when I got there I didn't notice any sign for Thermae.
Question to other folks who know BKK better-- are the girls that work at the sidewalk bars outside Soi Cowboy available for ST generally? Or is it an "up to the girl" situation? As my girl I was able to barfine for 500 but I don't know what that should entail.
Thanks for confirming-- Yes, that's the place where I saw lots of girls milling about outside, I guess since it was closed when I got there I didn't notice any sign for Thermae.
Question to other folks who know BKK better-- are the girls that work at the sidewalk bars outside Soi Cowboy available for ST generally? Or is it an "up to the girl" situation? As my girl I was able to barfine for 500 but I don't know what that should entail.I'm not sure there is an obvious sign that says "Thermae". But then I have not needed to look for a sign for so long it might be right there and I have not paid attention to it. As you stand on the sidewalk and look up the steps to face the glass doors leading into the lobby of Ruamchitt Hotel more or less on the right and Bush Gardens restaurant on the left, Thermae is down a small set of steps on your right, more or less below those Ruamchitt Hotel glass doors. It might not have been closed and you didn't realize it since you didn't walk down those steps to try the door. Just because there were crowds of girls and ladyboys standing around outside of Thermae would not mean Thermae itself is closed.
And on your other question, I would say every girl you see working in the sidewalk bars outside Soi Cowboy or anywhere else you see one spring up in the area is available to be barfined for ST or LT unless that particular girl chooses not to for whatever reason, which is probably very rare. I suppose it is likely that a female owner or manager of one of those sidewalk bars might not be available in the same way a mamasan might not be available. But I have taken the proprietress of one of those sidewalk bars before too. She had been a bargirl herself at Som's Haven before getting the stake together to open one of those sidewalk bars. So she handed the keys and order slips to one of the other girls sitting at her bar and off we went.
Question to other folks who know BKK better-- are the girls that work at the sidewalk bars outside Soi Cowboy available for ST generally? Or is it an "up to the girl" situation? As my girl I was able to barfine for 500 but I don't know what that should entail.If the girl is able to be barfined at the "cart bars" on the sidewalk, that should mean she is available for sex. The very first girl that really attracted me to stop at cart bar, was quite pretty, but was not available for BF. She had a regular job in 7 Eleven in Ratchada, and may well have had a BF too. I think almost every other girl or LB in the same bar was BFable. Of the cart bar girls I BFed, one slim one with several kids, was terrible on the bed, and one young one with great tits and little experience, was great on the bed. So a mixed bag. The one LB on that bar was very charming (LOL), however I did not want to try. I need pussy. I see that LB is now on one of the Escort sites.
Anyway, you simply ask if the girl is available for ST? Then they take you to a nearby ST Hotel typically or your Hotel if not too far away. You should have already been doing at least a bit of cuddling and maybe stealing a kiss or two first. If the girl is reticent, then may not be available or better not to take her.
Member #4591
10-17-17, 05:23
You should report that to the Billboard manager / mamasan, and ask for your BF reimbursment.Please read my post again. You will see I didn't pay any bar fine.
And on your other question, I would say every girl you see working in the sidewalk bars outside Soi Cowboy or anywhere else you see one spring up in the area is available to be barfined for ST or LT unless that particular girl chooses not to for whatever reason, which is probably very rare. I suppose it is likely that a female owner or manager of one of those sidewalk bars might not be available in the same way a mamasan might not be available. But I have taken the proprietress of one of those sidewalk bars before too. She had been a bargirl herself at Som's Haven before getting the stake together to open one of those sidewalk bars. So she handed the keys and order slips to one of the other girls sitting at her bar and off we went.
If the girl is able to be barfined at the "cart bars" on the sidewalk, that should mean she is available for sex. The very first girl that really attracted me to stop at cart bar, was quite pretty, but was not available for BF. She had a regular job in 7 Eleven in Ratchada, and may well have had a BF too. I think almost every other girl or LB in the same bar was BFable. Of the cart bar girls I BFed, one slim one with several kids, was terrible on the bed, and one young one with great tits and little experience, was great on the bed. So a mixed bag. The one LB on that bar was very charming (LOL), however I did not want to try. I need pussy. I see that LB is now on one of the Escort sites.
Anyway, you simply ask if the girl is available for ST? Then they take you to a nearby ST Hotel typically or your Hotel if not too far away. You should have already been doing at least a bit of cuddling and maybe stealing a kiss or two first. If the girl is reticent, then may not be available or better not to take her.Thanks for confirming. Well, then I guess my mistake was letting this girl drink too much at the club. We were definitely vibing a bit first at the club, but I guess her small frame + two shots and three drinks was too much.
Thanks for confirming. Well, then I guess my mistake was letting this girl drink too much at the club. We were definitely vibing a bit first at the club, but I guess her small frame + two shots and three drinks was too much.BTW, something else that might be a point of interest regarding those portable sidewalk cart bars; for the most part the girls (or Ladyboys) sitting at those cart bars are freelancers who simply choose to sit at a particular bar because they can, because they like the location, because they like the proprietor or proprietress of that bar, are friends with them, know them from previous jobs, venues or whatever. They aren't exactly on a salary or have a Lady Drink quota as they would in a go-go bar or a beer bar.
It is a somewhat friendly, open, co-operative arrangement between the owner and whatever girls or ladyboys are available and show up that night. It is then merely "understood" that whatever barfine is paid will mostly if not entirely go to the proprietor of the bar who has allowed the P4P provider to sit there (and been happy when attractive ones or effectively charismatic ones do), hawking the place, trying to pull in customers for herself, for Lady Drinks, for the customer's drinks and so on. I would also assume the girl or ladyboy gets some sort of commission on Lady Drinks purchased for them.
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BTW, something else that might be a point of interest regarding those portable sidewalk cart bars; for the most part the girls (or Ladyboys) sitting at those cart bars are freelancers who simply choose to sit at a particular bar because they can, because they like the location, because they like the proprietor or proprietress of that bar, are friends with them, know them from previous jobs, venues or whatever. They aren't exactly on a salary or have a Lady Drink quota as they would in a go-go bar or a beer bar.
It is a somewhat friendly, open, co-operative arrangement between the owner and whatever girls or ladyboys are available and show up that night. It is then merely "understood" that whatever barfine is paid will mostly if not entirely go to the proprietor of the bar who has allowed the P4P provider to sit there (and been happy when attractive ones or effectively charismatic ones do), hawking the place, trying to pull in customers for herself, for Lady Drinks, for the customer's drinks and so on. I would also assume the girl or ladyboy gets some sort of commission on Lady Drinks purchased for them.Mobile bar and alcocart are a great asset to the town in the odd hours bars start to close.
I enjoyed them a lot, till the first dawn light, but unnfortunarley the new powers decided they are no good at the town image.
Thanks for confirming-- Yes, that's the place where I saw lots of girls milling about outside, I guess since it was closed when I got there I didn't notice any sign for Thermae.
Question to other folks who know BKK better-- are the girls that work at the sidewalk bars outside Soi Cowboy available for ST generally? Or is it an "up to the girl" situation? As my girl I was able to barfine for 500 but I don't know what that should entail.I did same thing there are some stairs going down by the entrance on right side just go down them.
So walked by the sidewalk bar again, the crazy girl is not there anymore, neither was the other girl behind the bar (they aren't really bartenders, since all they do is pass the bottles to a guy who does the drinks, but they are more than just random girls that sit there, as they seem to have a relationship with the bar owner, calling her "boss" Maybe she only works a few nights a week? Or moonlights (daylights?) somewhere else?
Anyway, went to Thermae's as I finally saw the neon sign pointing down.
Here are my impressions as a first timer:
1) Not what I expected at all. Lights on, looks kind of like a diner or cafeteria.
2) Glad that there was no smoking inside.
3) Overwhelming the number of girls that were there, and all standing in two concentric circles staring at you as you walk in.
4) I suppose this is a reverse racetrack-- Guys were walking in a circle in between the circles that the girls formed, trying to size up each girl without looking too awkward.
5) Felt awkward, no matter what.
6) 95% Japanese and Korean patrons.
7) Girls mostly tried to have an East Asian look, or cute anime look.
8) I think about 30-40% of the girls were actually very well done post-op ladyboys. Hard to tell. Many of the ones outside were definitely LB.
9) Finally noticed a cutie that I was 99% sure was a girl, and who had a more schoolgirl / girl next door look, and had a slight resemblance to a Japanese pop singer from the 90's-- can't remember which. Very petite and natural spinner.
She quoted 2500ST and even though I know it can be lower, I didn't have time to haggle and she was definitely my type so we went. Her friends were kind of funny too-- the one next to her was also quite cute and said "Why you stay here, go outside!"
Even though she has been doing this for at least a year (but not at Thermae in 6 months), and has traveled to work, she is still in school primarily and seemed a little shy / inexperienced. Or she was a good actress. Either way, talked and built some rapport, then showered, DATY until she came, and then my turn. She was very sweet and gave quite a good performance, not rushed at all, and seemed like she was genuinely into it. Oh, and had a perfect set of perky natural B/Cs and slim body. All in all, a better experience than I expected from a FL and for my first time going to Thermae.
Are there ST Hotels all around Suk? If I'm not familiar with where the ST Hotels are, will the FL's know and I am to just follow where they take me? I guess I don't mind taking them back to my hotel room, but for convenience sakes isn't it better to just find a ST Hotel? For better clarity, I'm staying up by Nana and I'm worried if I find a lady I like in Soi Cowboy, I don't want to come all the way back up to Nana for the use of my room.
Are there ST Hotels all around Suk? If I'm not familiar with where the ST Hotels are, will the FL's know and I am to just follow where they take me?Yes; it is a part of their routine knowing where to take you, and they prefer somewhere close for a ST as time is money. If you do take them to your Nana area hotel just give them 100 baht 'taxi' money to return to their original spot.
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Are there ST Hotels all around Suk? If I'm not familiar with where the ST Hotels are, will the FL's know and I am to just follow where they take me? I guess I don't mind taking them back to my hotel room, but for convenience sakes isn't it better to just find a ST Hotel? For better clarity, I'm staying up by Nana and I'm worried if I find a lady I like in Soi Cowboy, I don't want to come all the way back up to Nana for the use of my room.Bkk has pedicabs, tuk tuks, motocycles, trains and taxis to get you back to Nana hotels. They also go back the same way. I personally like to use my hotel room and have never used a ST room.
Most girls won't want to walk very far in their working shoes.
YetAnotherGuy
10-18-17, 02:23
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8) I think about 30-40% of the girls were actually very well done post-op ladyboys. Hard to tell.Is this possible? I'd have thought post-ops had become a rarity in Thailand now if your estimate is correct they would be all over the place poaching on women's turf.
For better clarity, I'm staying up by Nana and I'm worried if I find a lady I like in Soi Cowboy, I don't want to come all the way back up to Nana for the use of my room.If you want to take a Soi Cowboy bargirl to a ST hotel room, walk to the Asok end of Soi Cowboy, turn right, immediately on your right again (before you get to the 7-11 on Asok) is a set of stairs that will take you to the lobby of Asok Place (if I recall the name of it). That is a decent ST hotel for trysts with Soi Cowboy bargirls. I haven't used it in a few years but it is probably still about 350 baht for an hour or so.
8) I think about 30-40% of the girls were actually very well done post-op ladyboys. Hard to tell. Many of the ones outside were definitely LB.
As far as I know LB's or not allowed in Thermae, which is exactly the reason that many of the 'girls' outside are LB's.
However I don't know if post-op ladyboys are allowed inside. But if they are I think 30-40% is an overestimation.
8) I think about 30-40% of the girls were actually very well done post-op ladyboys. Hard to tell. Many of the ones outside were definitely LB.
That high of a percentage out of, say, 100 or more ladies would be a rather shocking bit of news regarding the girls of Thermae. Perhaps 1-2 ladyboys, post-op or not, out a hundred ladies might occasionally slip past the very experienced and watchful eyes of the Thermae servers and staff working hard to prevent even one from entering the place ever. Then, of course, such a subterfuge would require either fooling or getting the cooperation of every real girl on either side of those ladyboys who would surely not want the world to start thinking any one of them might be a ladyboy, too. Not likely.
The technology would need to have advanced much further than I or any of those staffers thought and they are really, really, really well done post-ops, even better than one might encounter at Straps in Nana Plaza, possibly the best, most convincing collection of post-op ladyboys in the country if not the world. But even as good as they are, in person they are still easy to spot as ladyboys, imo.
Christian G
10-18-17, 08:39
Is this possible? I'd have thought post-ops had become a rarity in Thailand now if your estimate is correct they would be all over the place poaching on women's turf.No, I don't think this is possible. Many guys coming in Thailand for holiday are too much ladyboyphobic and can't recognise a ladyboy by a girl, if they see a girl with huge silicon boobs and alot of surgery they think immediately that is a ladyboy.
This happen many times on another thai-forum when memeber post a pic of a real girl with alot of surgery many guys will start to thinking and write that she is a ladyboy.
99% of the time is very easy to understand if the person is a ladyboy or girl, IMO.
As far as I know LB's or not allowed in Thermae, which is exactly the reason that many of the 'girls' outside are LB's.
However I don't know if post-op ladyboys are allowed inside. But if they are I think 30-40% is an overestimation.LBs have never been allowed in Thermae. At least in the 17 plus years I have been going there. Perhaps a post-op slips in now and then, but the staff will boot them the minute they are discovered. Now there are plenty of plastic surgery disasters in Thremae that look like LBs, that is for sure.
LBs have never been allowed in Thermae. At least in the 17 plus years I have been going there. Perhaps a post-op slips in now and then, but the staff will boot them the minute they are discovered. Now there are plenty of plastic surgery disasters in Thremae that look like LBs, that is for sure.There was only one time in all of my visits to Thermae, about 4 years ago, when I sat in a booth, began chatting with a girl who was already sitting in that booth in the spot against the wall and after about 2 minutes of conversation I began to suspect she might be a ladyboy. Her voice and hand gestures were suspect but not totally off the mark and she could have been just a smoker with a bit too much of an androgynous strain. I dropped all interest in taking it further with her/him. It is only because of that one encounter that I am open to the idea that a ladyboy could find his way into Thermae sometimes. But it still would be very rare and, as it was with this one (possibly), he would have to slip in and make sure he didn't interact with the staff or any of the other girls in the place.
Is this possible? I'd have thought post-ops had become a rarity in Thailand now if your estimate is correct they would be all over the place poaching on women's turf.
As far as I know LB's or not allowed in Thermae, which is exactly the reason that many of the 'girls' outside are LB's.
However I don't know if post-op ladyboys are allowed inside. But if they are I think 30-40% is an overestimation.
That high of a percentage out of, say, 100 or more ladies would be a rather shocking bit of news regarding the girls of Thermae. Perhaps 1-2 ladyboys, post-op or not, out a hundred ladies might occasionally slip past the very experienced and watchful eyes of the Thermae servers and staff working hard to prevent even one from entering the place ever. Then, of course, such a subterfuge would require either fooling or getting the cooperation of every real girl on either side of those ladyboys who would surely not want the world to start thinking any one of them might be a ladyboy, too. Not likely.
The technology would need to have advanced much further than I or any of those staffers thought and they are really, really, really well done post-ops, even better than one might encounter at Straps in Nana Plaza, possibly the best, most convincing collection of post-op ladyboys in the country if not the world. But even as good as they are, in person they are still easy to spot as ladyboys, imo.
LBs have never been allowed in Thermae. At least in the 17 plus years I have been going there. Perhaps a post-op slips in now and then, but the staff will boot them the minute they are discovered. Now there are plenty of plastic surgery disasters in Thremae that look like LBs, that is for sure.My apologies for overestimating, then. Perhaps it's the level of surgery as mentioned, or makeup, that made me suspect. Also a fair number were VERY tall for a Thai. I am a bit more suspicious because last year I had an experience with a go-go in Patpong, where all the girls looked super done up like anime characters, and were very aggressive-- I ended up taking one back, and "she" had big bolt-ONS, was not naturally lubricated, and had a few other suspicious things about "her". To this day I am not sure (if I a tree falls and nobody hears it, does it make a sound? But I am very suspicious of that go-go thinking most if not all of the "girls" in there were post-op. Is this crazy thinking?
As for my first time in Thermae, it just also seemed a bit too good to be true for a good number of the ladies there, hence the suspicion. Luckily the girl I selected was 100% natural, I don't like surgically enhanced girls anyway.
Banana Boi
10-18-17, 11:44
I have seen what I suspect to be a ladyboy sneak into Thermae but rule of thumb is if staff sees them there they will be removed. It wasn't very difficult for a ladyboy to sneak in through the back door before but would be more difficult now with the back door locked. Now a ladyboy would have to go by the staff at the front door. I didn't see any I suspected to be ladyboys last week.
NewManAndRew
10-18-17, 11:47
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My apologies for overestimating, then. Perhaps it's the level of surgery as mentioned, or makeup, that made me suspect. Also a fair number were VERY tall for a Thai. I am a bit more suspicious because last year I had an experience with a go-go in Patpong, where all the girls looked super done up like anime characters, and were very aggressive-- I ended up taking one back, and "she" had big bolt-ONS, was not naturally lubricated, and had a few other suspicious things about "her". To this day I am not sure (if I a tree falls and nobody hears it, does it make a sound? But I am very suspicious of that go-go thinking most if not all of the "girls" in there were post-op. Is this crazy thinking?
As for my first time in Thermae, it just also seemed a bit too good to be true for a good number of the ladies there, hence the suspicion. Luckily the girl I selected was 100% natural, I don't like surgically enhanced girls anyway.Ha ha. Yes a percentage of surgeries girls are starting to look a bit like LBs due to surgeries (a significant percentage in Bacarra), and I don't mean that to be a compliment. However you can recognise somewhat which are which because the LBs are the prettier ones. LOL. I saw some very nice looking tall Streetwalkers in Soi 4 last night. Unfortunately all the good lookers were LBs, and the real girls very average indeed even without surgeries.
One girl in Suk road was nearly pretty enough, but she wanted 2 K and that sort of soured the deal. I would have been happy to pay 2 K if she turned out to be really good, but the risk was too much. I would require the base price to be somewhat lower till she proved she was worth it. Also she was dressed not to reveal her figure too clearly, so I feared surprises. The face was a good pass though, even if not up to the best girls in Thermae.
It is getting hard for me to bite the bullet and actually try girls. I have been made very cautious due to meeting girls that appeared really keen and even kissy, perhaps being a little too unnaturally full on before the deal, but on the bed have started to give me the hurry up after dick in no more than 2 minutes, and after 15 minutes, not willing to continue. Makes me so paranoid. It is so easy to just do known reliable girls.
Min was not there as passed Kasalong. Two other girls had above average looks I guess, but faces and noses too broad to be my personal spec. Saw a young guy taking a stunner from Twisters (very good face at least - tits not that good) that I previously tried. She was a complete dud on the bed (and over priced even if would be average performer), so I was very tempted to warn him. LOL That would be very impolite of course.
Mercury joins the very long list of LB bars in Nana. Some Mercury girls moved next door to Mandarin, but I don't see the talent is very good in there overall. I am too picky naturally. I don't currently find that any Nana bar is a good place for me to hunt at all. Cowboy probably only lingers due to girls I have known for years. Meeting exciting lots of fun new girls is not easy. There is no motivation to hunt much.
Ha ha. Yes a percentage of surgeries girls are starting to look a bit like LBs due to surgeries, and I don't mean that to be a compliment. However you can recognise somewhat which are which because the LBs are the prettier ones. LOL. I saw some very nice looking tall Streetwalkers in Soi 4 last night. Unfortunately all the good lookers were LBs, and the real girls very average indeed even without surgeries.
If only girls went for the same kind of surgery as LBs instead of just turning their faces into Japanese anime figures.
Is a Ladyboy still a ladyboy even after post-op? After the surgery that makes them a female right? With female parts?
I'm not going to lie, there are a few LBs there are very hot and beautiful, although tempted, I've never had a ladyboy. Has anyone ever had a post-op LB? Post-op means she has female parts top to bottom right?
LBs have never been allowed in Thermae. At least in the 17 plus years I have been going there. Perhaps a post-op slips in now and then, but the staff will boot them the minute they are discovered. Now there are plenty of plastic surgery disasters in Thremae that look like LBs, that is for sure.
I'm not going to lie, there are a few LBs there are very hot and beautiful, although tempted, I've never had a ladyboy. Has anyone ever had a post-op LB? Post-op means she has female parts top to bottom right?Years ago the Frankfurt red light district had quite a few post-ops. Many came from Hong Kong. They came in one big wave. I think they were granted asylum ahead of the devolution to the Chinese Republic. As far as I can remember they were stunning but they were also inveterate scammers. They even had fake clocks to cheat clients over the time. In Frankfurt they were allowed to work on the same floor as genetic females while pre-ops were segregated to a "man only" floor. I have it on my bucket list to try out a pre-op in Thailand. I haven't done so yet because I don't know how to differentiate between pre and post without asking awkward questions.
I did it in Frankfurt a few times and it was ok. I never formed the habit as in Germany you had plenty of women whose figures can compete. The problem in Thailand is not the number of (mostly pre-ops) LBs. Sao Paulo in Brazil has far more of them IMO. The problem in Thailand is where do you find "bum-bums" and "bundas gostosas", especially if you don't want to limit yourself to the maximally young. Because with age some flabbiness inevitably sets in, and then it's adios to what little curves around the hips were there to begin with.
Is a Ladyboy still a ladyboy even after post-op? After the surgery that makes them a female right? With female parts?
I'm not going to lie, there are a few LBs there are very hot and beautiful, although tempted, I've never had a ladyboy. Has anyone ever had a post-op LB? Post-op means she has female parts top to bottom right?This is not a forum where discussion of ladyboy experiences is allowed nor promotion of LB things, with or without dicks. Most of the readers here including myself are not into LBs sexually at all. I don't think the moderators will make an exception for post-ops at all.
There may be alternate forums for LB things, I would not know. Mostly on here the normal topics are how to identify and avoid LBs.
It is disturbing to me that gogo bars in Bangkok have deteriorated in many ways:
1. Arab's bars with non-fuckable girls
2. LB bars or bars with some LBs.
3. "Coyote" girls over dressed and over priced that are not real Coyotes at all
4. Bars with fat girls of a very young age (bad modern diet)
5. Bars with girls spaced out on drugs, whether Ice or Ya Bah.
6. Bars with lots of girls having ugly tit jobs and freaky nose jobs and other miscellaneous Ops.
7. Deteriorating music to noisy thumping disco stuff with not much real musical quality
8. Rocketing prices compared to much lower price rises in the MP industry.
9. Bars with girls used to or preferring the Asian clientele.
10. Now with the latest government, less nudity.
As GoatS says, it wasn't like this at 20 to 15 years ago.
It is still possible to find a girl slightly like the old days, however she doesn't want to go long time any more, and she is stuck playing games on her phone, or sending messages.
I honestly can't remember lady boys in Nana when I first went there in later 90s, to Lollipop, Pretty lady and Voodoo. I think LBs were mainly in Thaniya PatPong. Now we are over run with ladyboys starting to out number the girls.
Asoke Place ST Hotel has more Japanese customers with Ladyboys than it has customers with real girls, based on my observations. I don't see Farangs or Indians go in there with ladyboys at all. I guess Farangs take them back their own Hotels.
At one time I was sort of an Optimist. LOL Not much perhaps. Depressing me now.
I honestly can't remember lady boys in Nana when I first went there in later 90s Casanova bar was always there. I can't remember any others back then though. That was the only bar I avoided. LOL.
BlueWizard
10-18-17, 23:22
Do you know where I could find Sagami 002 condoms in Bangkok? I've seen them for sale in Pattaya, but haven't been able to find them in Bangkok.
Thanks in advance!I've seen them in some, but not all, 7/11 in Bangkok, likewise some pharmacies though I can't give you a specific chain. Usually in packs of 1 or 2. Maybe if you asked you could get a box. Around 70 baht per unit ish. I buy online from here in Aus but keep an eye out just in case I run out. The Okamotos seem to be more readily available and might be worth a try.
Member #4698
10-19-17, 00:05
Question: does demand create supply or does supply create demand? as far as red-light district Kathoeys are concerned. I am talking about their relative numbers in Sukhumvit and Patpong. LB's have always been a part of Thailand society since probably the dawn of their civilization, but I do tend to agree with you guys that in say the last 10 to 15 years I have seen a larger number of them making themselves available in nighttime BKK tourist areas. So, is this a sign of what? Increased supply or increased demand.
Here is a little anecdotal report:
One night I went Ramkhamhaeng to have dinner with my Mini in her neighborhood. I always like to visit her because she lives in a lively university neighborhood with a lot of restaurants, music houses and what not, and I am usually the only farang in sight.
So, we drank a little Tequila and made the boom boom in her apartment. I fondly remembered the good times, not so long ago, when Mini was a Baccara Go Go girl and I would hang out with her and her Go Go entourage in the same small studio apartment. I guess Mini was feeling the nostalgia too because she showed me some old pictures from her birthday parties that I celebrated with her and her crew at Red Sun Disco. Mini asked if I remembered those nights and I said of course I did. Those were great times!
Anyway, after 3 or 4 shots of Tequila we headed out for dinner. Mini suggested an open-air restaurant a couple blocks from her place. It was packed with 100 customers maybe more. And Guess what? ALL the hostesses were Ladyboys and not the slim down version trying to pass in Nana type. NO, the ladyboy hostess that escorted us to our table was built like a rugby player and looked pretty rough. She was around 5 ft 5 inches tall with thick legs and very strong looking arms. Now don't get me wrong, I was not phased in the slightest. To me it's all part of the scenery and nightlife of BKK. The rugged, but friendly LB hostess took our drink order and then a girl girl waitress took over. Then during our meal, we were treated to some entertainment in the form of a show consisting of all the ladyboy hostesses in the restaurant. The 6 hostesses got on a stage in front of the dining tables and danced in a very choreographed way to some Molam music and then each one took center stage and lipsinked some other popular tunes. Mini and I enjoyed the show and by the enthusiastic response from all the other diners, I would say everybody enjoyed the entertainment. I still have a video clip of the show on my computer and Mini occasionally asks if I want to go back to that restaurant. I tell her sure. The food was great and we had a good time.
So, I guess I am saying that I think increased demand is drawing Kathoeys to the tourist entertainment areas. It's an easy way to make money. But like all things commercial Thai, I think the tourist oriented Kathoeys are now in oversupply.
P.S. I don't care if the person is a pre-op or post-op, she still can't have babies, so she is still a man biologically speaking. But give medical science another 25 years and this definition may not hold up. Who the fuck knows! 555.
P.S.S. I agree with Syzygies, the topic of doing ladyboys or anything related to their procurement is not allowed. This forum is for men (or girls) interested in balling natural born girls.
NO, the ladyboy hostess that escorted us to our table was built like a rugby player and looked pretty rough. She was around 5 ft 5 inches tall with thick legs and very strong looking arms. Reminds me of when I live in Laos around the 2000's. There was a LB that worked in a bar at night that I drank in, but he / she also worked as a labourer during the day. We called he / she Bruce.
So, I guess I am saying that I think increased demand is drawing Kathoeys to the tourist entertainment areas. It's an easy way to make money. But like all things commercial Thai, I think the tourist oriented Kathoeys are now in oversupply. Could also be possible that education and the economy has improved to a state that girls who used to work in the hospitalty industry years ago now have degrees and / or better jobs. I've flown on Thai Smile a few times recently and the hostesses on the flights have been much cuter than I've seen in the bars recently.
Casanova bar was always there. I can't remember any others back then though. That was the only bar I avoided. LOL.http://www.bangkokeyes.com/1993jul31.html Indeed Casanova was an early bar.
I was aware of the 2nd floor areas populated by LBs but not really to up on the names of the bars because had to go past quickly.
In early days I really only attended Lollipop, Pretty Lady, maybe Hollywood. Whichever bars had the most nudity. Also Angel Witch for shows.
Not sure what year the nude dancing came in. I remember girls in the aquarium at Lollipop I think.
Later I attended Cascade when it was not a LB bar, then had the shock when it changed over.
Crocodilexp
10-19-17, 06:01
Question: does demand create supply or does supply create demand? as far as red-light district Kathoeys are concerned. I am talking about their relative numbers in Sukhumvit and Patpong. LB's have always been a part of Thailand society since probably the dawn of their civilization, but I do tend to agree with you guys that in say the last 10 to 15 years I have seen a larger number of them making themselves available in nighttime BKK tourist areas. So, is this a sign of what? Increased supply or increased demand.
I think what we're seeing is a substantial drop in the number of girls (especially attractive ones) in the nightlife industry, while the number of ladyboys is staying more or less constant. I doubt there are more ladyboys in nightlife areas in terms of absolute numbers, it's just that the proportion of ladyboys to the girls is higher.
On lower Sukhumvit, at least, 10 years ago there were hundreds of attractive and decent female streetwalkers on any given evening. These days, the numbers are lower and all that's left is the bottom-of-the-barrel. Ladyboys now actually pop out for looking prettier than most of the working women still there.
To me, these could be the two factors leading to a perception of more ladyboys around and increased demand.
It is getting hard for me to bite the bullet and actually try girls. I have been made very cautious due to meeting girls that appeared really keen and even kissy, perhaps being a little too unnaturally full on before the deal, but on the bed have started to give me the hurry up after dick in no more than 2 minutes, and after 15 minutes, not willing to continue. Makes me so paranoid. It is so easy to just do known reliable girls.
It might be time for you to give dating sites like ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid another try, assuming you perhaps gave them a try at least once before. Although I realize that is more difficult to do if you have a live-in girlfriend. Maybe impossible. I am now going about 75% with non P4P girls I meet from sites like that or around town in restaurants and shops and filling in the rest with the occasional new go-go dancer or freelancer. That allows me to be a lot pickier with the P4P girls I take and try very hard (but will fail sometimes. LOL) to only take those with whom I feel the most chemistry and horniness yet still have a full dance card for sex throughout the week and month.
But where the direct P4P girls will be much more inclined to watch the clock and try to reduce wear and tear on their tools of the trade, many of those regular date girls are honestly looking for a prolonged and satisfying fuck they might not have had since they met the young Thai or old farang boyfriend 3 years ago and who dumped them two years ago. Or ever. Yes, that does mean you would probably not find as high a percentage of perfect bodies and faces you hunt for in the bars. But now that you aren't even finding that so much in the bars, you have a lot less to lose by trying the non P4P route, right?
I think what we're seeing is a substantial drop in the number of girls (especially attractive ones) in the nightlife industry, while the number of ladyboys is staying more or less constant. I doubt there are more ladyboys in nightlife areas in terms of absolute numbers, it's just that the proportion of ladyboys to the girls is higher.
On lower Sukhumvit, at least, 10 years ago there were hundreds of attractive and decent female streetwalkers on any given evening. These days, the numbers are lower and all that's left is the bottom-of-the-barrel. Ladyboys now actually pop out for looking prettier than most of the working women still there.
To me, these could be the two factors leading to a perception of more ladyboys around and increased demand.I agree that the number of ladyboys has remained more or less constant. 4-5 years ago there seemed to be many more very attractive ladyboys strolling along Sukumvit, sitting at the massage shops, standing on Soi 4 just past Hillary 4 bar and on either side of the soi. But during that same time frame 2-3 more Nana Plaza bars have been converted to ladyboy bars and I suspect several of the better looking ladyboys who used to stand or might have stood outside are now working in those bars.
Moreover, ladyboys are far more likely to agree to a session with the now greater influx of Arab, Indian and other less attractive to Thai female customers in the area. And I do believe that is also a big factor in why younger, better looking Thai girls are not showing up in the same numbers as before. Maybe they are online. But they are not showing up to be shopped face-to-face in public by men whose ethnicity they are not culturally used to or inclined to accepting. That factor is not as blatantly obvious to me in Bangkok as it is in Pattaya. But it is still a factor imo.
I agree that the number of ladyboys has remained more or less constant. 4-5 years ago there seemed to be many more very attractive ladyboys strolling along Sukumvit, sitting at the massage shops, standing on Soi 4 just past Hillary 4 bar and on either side of the soi. But during that same time frame 2-3 more Nana Plaza bars have been converted to ladyboy bars and I suspect several of the better looking ladyboys who used to stand or might have stood outside are now working in those bars.
Moreover, ladyboys are far more likely to agree to a session with the now greater influx of Arab, Indian and other less attractive to Thai female customers in the area. And I do believe that is also a big factor in why younger, better looking Thai girls are not showing up in the same numbers as before. Maybe they are online. But they are not showing up to be shopped face-to-face in public by men whose ethnicity they are not culturally used to or inclined to accepting. That factor is not as blatantly obvious to me in Bangkok as it is in Pattaya. But it is still a factor imo.I think the general decrease of female streetwalkers is due to two factors:
The education, in general is improving, and there are more job opportunities.
Bangkok has seen a change by in the recent years and there are more malls etc. Whether this makes sense or not, they need to employ new staff: more job opportunities. So more girls get s job without necessarily having to enter the sex industry to get a living. Lots did so, especially from rural areas with no jobs. Sex was an easy job, not requiring much school education.
Ladyboys do attend university and have more job opportunity, especially those not too much hardened by the sex industry. The acceptance has increased. They can have normal job more than before.
Still they have less opportunities than real girls. Hence they enter the sex industry more than the girls.
Ladyboys do enjoy spending money and normal works, decent wages, do not provide the income a good LB can earn.
They are also more keen to enjoy the job as it carries along a lot of sex. Don't forget their gender roots. In general, men have more sex drive than women.
It can be shortsighted as when their shelf date is over, mid to late thirties, they will be in troubles if they didn't think about saving or future life. That's another story, it goes down to what is inside their head.
Only few real girls can earn a lot in the sex industry and for shorter time.
As far as social media and internet being a marketing platform, I believe these are more used by LB than real girls. Just an assumption.
All in all this results in less girls entering the business and a steadier number of LB into it.
IMHO.
On lower Sukhumvit, at least, 10 years ago there were hundreds of attractive and decent female streetwalkers on any given evening. These days, the numbers are lower and all that's left is the bottom-of-the-barrel. Ladyboys now actually pop out for looking prettier than most of the working women still there.
There were? I can't quite remember that. Never had that many SW experiences over the years for one reason or another. However we do now see the dominance of LB and African street walkers on Sukhumvit.
I can see that 90% of P4P will be weirdos in one way or another before too long. City of horrors! Makes me miss the extra sordid lunchtime orgy visits to Pat Pong 25 years back. You could have a sex party with several raunchy wayward girls in an upstairs bar like Kangaroo Club or Annie's Rose for a reasonable price. I was not aware of Star of Light in those days. I believe it was formerly called Star of Love. LOL
You could also probably organise a sex romp with multiple girls at a BJ bar these days but would cost significantly more. You might run into shy girls problems. LOL
Has anyone tried Bew, formally of Easy cart bar and Cowboy2.
I think the general decrease of female streetwalkers is due to two factors:
The education, in general is improving, and there are more job opportunities.I believe these days that many younger P4 P ladies choose to have an on-line / social media presence as their initial point of contact.
SL.
I've seen them in some, but not all, 7/11 in Bangkok, likewise some pharmacies though I can't give you a specific chain. Usually in packs of 1 or 2. Maybe if you asked you could get a box. Around 70 baht per unit ish. I buy online from here in Aus but keep an eye out just in case I run out. The Okamotos seem to be more readily available and might be worth a try.Hi,
You find them in pharmacy Sukhumvit soi 4 corner on suk side before you yurn into Soi 4 before Nana place.
YourBoyRoc
10-19-17, 18:49
I've been wanting to go to Thailand for some time but I've avoided Asia because I'm a smoker and I can't enjoy a vacation without my weed. It's likes a drinker going on vacation somewhere where they don't sell alcohol. I've been to Philippines and I was able to find weed in Angeles. Can anyone tell me if weed is available and where to find.
http://www.bangkokeyes.com/1993jul31.html Indeed Casanova was an early bar.
I was aware of the 2nd floor areas populated by LBs but not really to up on the names of the bars because had to go past quickly.
In early days I really only attended Lollipop, Pretty Lady, maybe Hollywood. Whichever bars had the most nudity. Also Angel Witch for shows.
Not sure what year the nude dancing came in. I remember girls in the aquarium at Lollipop I think.
Later I attended Cascade when it was not a LB bar, then had the shock when it changed over.I didn't arrive until late 90's. Hollywood (now Billboard) was awesome back then. They used to show pornos on the TV's around the place and had without a doubt the best lesbian show I have ever seen in my life. 12 girls in a circle mouth to ass just like the human centipede, then paired up into 6 pairs and using dildos and such. My favorite part was when one girl held a dildo in her mouth and pushed it in and out of her lesbian partner with her mouth. My second favorite place was G-Spot (now Rainbow 4). The shower show at G-Spot was pretty great and their supply of girls was solid. I had my first threesome ever in Thailand with 2 girls from G-Spot.
99% of the time is very easy to understand if the person is a ladyboy or girl, IMO.I agree. Voice and Adam's apple are obvious signs, even if they can be trained or changed by surgery. Two signs, which are never changed by surgery, are hands and elbows. If you get very close, smell and five o'clock shadow are other clear hints for LB.
But I still think, that the behavior is the best way to recognize a LB quite early. They tend to overact female gestures (I. E. playing with their hair and boobs), that no, really no Thai girl would ever do.
I've been wanting to go to Thailand for some time but I've avoided Asia because I'm a smoker and I can't enjoy a vacation without my weed. It's likes a drinker going on vacation somewhere where they don't sell alcohol. I've been to Philippines and I was able to find weed in Angeles. Can anyone tell me if weed is available and where to find.If you know what's good for you, don't involve yourself with any drugs, weed or otherwise in Thailand. Thai police are mostly corrupt, and any opportunity they get to prosecute a falang will be grasped with vigor. I have personally witnessed Thai police identifying farangs for drug tests walking near the Asoke intersection a few years ago, but I am not sure if it still happens. In short, don't do it.
Sagamis, including the "L" size, sold at Boots in Pattaya, but often sold out. I wonder if the Okamoto 003 are equivalent. If I'm not mistaken the Sagamis are 0. 028 which rounds up to 0. 03 or something of the sort.
I've been wanting to go to Thailand for some time but I've avoided Asia because I'm a smoker and I can't enjoy a vacation without my weed. It's likes a drinker going on vacation somewhere where they don't sell alcohol. I've been to Philippines and I was able to find weed in Angeles. Can anyone tell me if weed is available and where to find.Drugs in an Asian country that still deals in the death penalty? I know they won't execute for some pot but it will probably cost you 5 to 10 years of your life. In short don't go.
Sagamis, including the "L" size, sold at Boots in Pattaya, but often sold out. I wonder if the Okamoto 003 are equivalent. If I'm not mistaken the Sagamis are 0. 028 which rounds up to 0. 03 or something of the sort.Condom's are a big concern for me but I buy mine just before I travel so I have them and I know the brand and size. I saw in my local today 40 thin for $17.
I've been wanting to go to Thailand for some time but I've avoided Asia because I'm a smoker and I can't enjoy a vacation without my weed. It's likes a drinker going on vacation somewhere where they don't sell alcohol. I've been to Philippines and I was able to find weed in Angeles. Can anyone tell me if weed is available and where to find.Years ago some small islands had a reputation for that kind of partying (Koh Phangan). However given the risk in this part of the world you'd better monger elsewhere less risky. Germany comes to mind, with neighbouring Holland where small quantities are non-arrestable. Even South America is preferable to Thailand for what you have in mind. Do you want to risk finding yourself on death row for a joint? Even if you score you will not have your peace of mind.
I've been wanting to go to Thailand for some time but I've avoided Asia because I'm a smoker and I can't enjoy a vacation without my weed. It's likes a drinker going on vacation somewhere where they don't sell alcohol. I've been to Philippines and I was able to find weed in Angeles. Can anyone tell me if weed is available and where to find.Yes, it is available. I don't know where because I refuse to accept the potential for jail time for weed. If anyone answers the where question, Jackson will probably delete it.
For weed in SE Asia, you need to go to Cambodia or Saigon. Weed laws are generally not enforced. But quality is bad. Not really worth smoking.
Do you want to risk finding yourself on death row for a joint? Even if you score you will not have your peace of mind.Obviously an exaggeration. No one gets the death penalty for a joint.
If you are stupid and/or unlucky and get caught, it most likely will be a large bribe. Make sure you have access to several thousand dollars.
If the cop doesn't accept bribes, then I've heard two things that are likely to occur. One is that you are sentenced to jail, and then you are released early on the king's or queen's birthday and then are kicked out of the country. The other thing I heard is that after you are arrested, you are kicked out of the country. Not sure which occurs. There is too much BS on the internet, with everyone repeating the same paranoia without facts.
If you get very close, smell and five o'clock shadow are other clear hints for LB.
Having a see**k gives them away as well, if you get a bit too far without noticing, ha ha ha.
If you are stupid and/or unlucky and get caught, it most likely will be a large bribe. Make sure you have access to several thousand dollars.
Agree, although you may not be unlucky, you could just be set up by the guy who sold the dope. I've heard that's a really big problem in Bali, that's why westerners smuggle it in. The local expats only buy from other expats. This was widely reported in the papers in Australia a few years back.
I don't smoke, weed or anything, I already have enough expensive vices and don't need any more.
YourBoyRoc
10-20-17, 11:02
Thanks for the feedback guys sounds a little to risky for me.
Thanks for the feedback guys sounds a little to risky for me.IMO, it was similar risk getting weed in Angeles.
If you want (relatively) safe mongering and weed, you should go to Cambodia, Saigon, Colombia, Peru, or Amsterdam.
Agree, although you may not be unlucky, you could just be set up by the guy who sold the dope. I've heard that's a really big problem in Bali, that's why westerners smuggle it in. The local expats only buy from other expats. This was widely reported in the papers in Australia a few years back.
I don't smoke, weed or anything, I already have enough expensive vices and don't need any more.You are correct about Bali, it is a definite set up and not worth the risk or the bribes involved.
Yes, it is available. I don't know where because I refuse to accept the potential for jail time for weed. If anyone answers the where question, Jackson will probably delete it.
For weed in SE Asia, you need to go to Cambodia or Saigon. Weed laws are generally not enforced. But quality is bad. Not really worth smoking.
Obviously an exaggeration. No one gets the death penalty for a joint.
If you are stupid and/or unlucky and get caught, it most likely will be a large bribe. Make sure you have access to several thousand dollars.
If the cop doesn't accept bribes, then I've heard two things that are likely to occur. One is that you are sentenced to jail, and then you are released early on the king's or queen's birthday and then are kicked out of the country. The other thing I heard is that after you are arrested, you are kicked out of the country. Not sure which occurs. There is too much BS on the internet, with everyone repeating the same paranoia without facts.20 years ago it was available very cheaply on Koh Chang island due to be being close to Cambodia and having no roads, and no police force on the Island. Only motorcycle tracks. In modern day that changes since the Island is now developed. So I think going to Cambodia is the right advice.
I tried it on Koh Chang since all the girls in my party were doing it. I found no noticeable results at all, so not being a smoker, I gave it away quickly enough. I noticed it made all the others very lazy to do anything much except smoke and eat. Alcohol has a much greater effect for me, but that is not desirable before a sex workout, as it decreases sensation and sensitivity (a result I certainly don't need). One Thai girl I know quit with her US husband and returned to Thailand, because he became so lethargic and useless doing very little except smoke pot. I guess it does not have the same effect on all people.
TesterTester
10-21-17, 10:28
Does anybody know if the bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy are open during October 25-29 ? (29th is King's cremation).
Does anybody know if the bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy are open during October 25-29 ? (29th is King's cremation).I think this was answered last week, just go back a few pages. From what I recall all bars in Nana have been told to shut and I would guess Soi Cowboy would be the same.
I think this was answered last week, just go back a few pages. From what I recall all bars in Nana have been told to shut and I would guess Soi Cowboy would be the same.Yes collect the contact info for your favourite bargirls beforehand, then meet them anytime is convenient to both. Street Walkers will still be available.
Even Crazy House will close for at least 3 days according to a girl that works there (sometimes works when she is desperate).
YetAnotherGuy
10-21-17, 17:38
Thanks for the help!
Hi,
You find them in pharmacy Sukhumvit soi 4 corner on suk side before you turn into Soi 4 before Nana place.
Sagamis, including the "L" size, sold at Boots in Pattaya, but often sold out. I wonder if the Okamoto 003 are equivalent. If I'm not mistaken the Sagamis are 0. 028 which rounds up to 0. 03 or something of the sort.
Does anybody know if the bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy are open during October 25-29 ? (29th is King's cremation).Thai friendly and wechat are your friends those days.
StarMariner
10-21-17, 18:25
Hi,
I will be returning to Bangkok next month to indulge in a longhand fantasy. A foursome with three bi-sexual girls. Any suggestions as o where I might best acquire the fantasy and what hotels would be guest friendly for this group.
Any and all suggestions will be gratefully received and of course a full report will follow.
Does anybody know if the bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy are open during October 25-29 ? (29th is King's cremation).Get it right. We all heard already the cremation is 26th October. Not 29.
Crazy House and Shark bars in Cowboy will close 25,26, 27 and open evening of 28th. 24th will have to close at midnight.
Anyone looking for a threesome, an ex Suzie Wong experienced expert for licking girl pussy as well as doing guys, is Dtom (very skinny girl), now reported to be working at Play Skool in the Nana Plaza.
Shark Line up today was well ahead of Crazy House. Several very pretty Coyotes. Crazy has never been that good on a Saturday in recent memory. I thought No. 144 (CH) was quite good, tall, slim and pretty, but spoiled by very silly sillies, convex like half coconut shells. Had to remind myself: Look at the beautiful pussy and forget the tits. LOL 164 had good body but spoiled by a plastic looking nose. Some girls had great bodies but soso faces. No one really doing it for me.
Had several choices in Shark for gogo girls or pretty Coyotes. However never took a Coyote in Shark yet. Need to be convinced she is a sure thing worth the money first. I liked numbers 347 as before, number 336, number 333.
I was very fortunate at ST Hotel Asoke Place. They know me. Did not get kicked out of the room after 1 hour with the normal telephone call. Maybe because was raining a lot and not a busy night. Very fortunate since I finally popped at close to the 100 minute mark. Leasurely shower together, DFK and play next, extended DATY, nice BBBJ and then sex in multiple positions. So perhaps less than an hour of actual fucking. LOL In several positions. I jest. Actually no clue how long was the fucking. However total time was about 100 minutes I think. There was a 5 min rest and a 2nd blow job.
In town yesterday from a 10 day trip to Pattaya (reports of the trip are in the Pattaya forum).
I understand Cowboy and Nana will close tonight (Tuesday) at midnight? I have a date with a legit girl tonight. Had hoped to have Cowboy as a backup.
Next, I have to get to BKK by 11:30 AM Thursday. I am at a Sukumvet hotel near Terminal 21 now. Any educated opinions / guesses on when I should get a taxi to the airport to arrive on time?
Thanks.
Next, I have to get to BKK by 11:30 AM Thursday. I am at a Sukumvet hotel near Terminal 21 now. Any educated opinions / guesses on when I should get a taxi to the airport to arrive on time?
Thanks.If I needed to be at the airport at 11.30 AM (presumably this is not your flight departure time) on 26th, given the traffic uncertainty that might occur on that day, I would get in a taxi at my hotel near Terminal 21 at 10.30.
Or get a taxi to Makkasan station and get the Airport Rail Link to be sure of on time arrival.
If I needed to be at the airport at 11.30 AM (presumably this is not your flight departure time) on 26th, given the traffic uncertainty that might occur on that day, I would get in a taxi at my hotel near Terminal 21 at 10.30.
Or get a taxi to Makkasan station and get the Airport Rail Link to be sure of on time arrival.Alternative is take BTS to Phaya Thai then Airport train from there. Leave around 8 am.
If I needed to be at the airport at 11.30 AM (presumably this is not your flight departure time) on 26th, given the traffic uncertainty that might occur on that day, I would get in a taxi at my hotel near Terminal 21 at 10.30.
Or get a taxi to Makkasan station and get the Airport Rail Link to be sure of on time arrival.Thanks Ed. I asked the hotel front desk and the girl there said if I leave at 6 AM I would have no problem. If I left at 8 AM I might have a big problem. Of course, no one really knows. I am thinking of checking out of here Wednesday and booking at an airport hotel. For around $150, no mess and no fuss, and I can sleep in.
I am meeting someone at about that time and I cannot be late. Too much explaining to do!
Banana Boi
10-24-17, 15:55
FL, I sent you a PM on a very decent hotel with shuttle bus that is very near the airport. It's also a fraction of the cost you quoted. Normally it will take less than 1 hour to get to either Suvarnabhumi or DMK from the Terminal 21 area but, as we all know, October 26 is a very special day in Thailand.
Thanks for your reports, as always.
FL, I sent you a PM on a very decent hotel with shuttle bus that is very near the airport. It's also a fraction of the cost you quoted. Normally it will take less than 1 hour to get to either Suvarnabhumi or DMK from the Terminal 21 area but, as we all know, October 26 is a very special day in Thailand.
Thanks for your reports, as always.Thanks. I did decide to check out of my current hotel and go to a cheap airport hotel tonight (I had already made the reservation when I got your message). The hotel has free shuttle service, so I can now sleep in not have to worry.
Hello everyone!
This is my first trip report! I've been a long time reader of the forum; Thailand and the UAE, and have used a lot of the suggestions and advice on here to make my experience efficient and fruitful in the past. This was my first trip to Bangkok after some years, some things are the same and some things have changed for the better / worse.
Day 1.
After finishing work and having a nice dinner with some colleagues, a few drinks in, everyone decided that they wanted to head out even though we had a an early start the next morning (Boys will be boys! We headed out to Khao San road as it was near our hotel. We went to one of the larger bars on the strip, you have to go up a flight of fairly large stairs and it's all open air; very nice place given the location. Since most of us are past 30 we decided to stay away from the super backpacker types of bars.
The bar was full of mostly tourists as well as a couple of WG's. I did see one very very good looking WG sitting next to us but the group we were in was larger at this point and I don't think anyone wanted to make the first move without knowing how judgemental the rest of the group was. After a few drinks here we split into a couple of smaller groups and someone suggested that we head across town to Soi Cowboy as it was the first time in BKK for a few people.
A long cab ride later we all arrived at the front entrance of Soi Cowboy and proceeded straight to the back and into Baccara (My suggestion as I know Cowboy relatively well). There was no room on the first or second floor so they seated us up on the third floor, first time for me up there. There were only 4 or 5 ladies dancing topless up there but it was short lived as one of the waitresses found us a large booth on the second floor and down we went! The second floor had many many more ladies, again all topless as is the case with Baccara. Most of them all had boob jobs, most of them not so great. We had and had a couple of drinks here and fended off some of the more direct advances from the ladies. I cannot help but notice that the quality at Baccara has gone down. See further in my TR. What I do like about Baccara is that no one is pushy and it's a good looking place for a first start of the night. They did not make us buy a drink when we walked in at the bar outside, they probably figured we would once we got inside.
We decided to move on so that everyone else could have a nice tour of cowboy.
We went into Shark next, it wasn't too crowded but they had considerably more ladies than at Baccara. We sat on the front right booths facing the stage (They all face the stage anyways) and ordered a round of drinks! The ladies at Shark were much better looking than those at Baccara and we were all pretty happy to sit there through a couple more rounds of drinks. One of the guys in our group ended up buying lady drinks for a couple of the girls and it was great fun! Since I was going to be in BKK for a few more nights I made careful note of the numbers whom I would want to return for the next night.
After Shark we went into Tilac I believe (It was late and we were tired). We had a couple more drinks in there before we decide to call it a night. Nothing to really write home about in Tilac, the ladies were OK but nothing special, not nearly as good as Shark.
On the way out I had to save a friend from walking into Cockatoo!
Day 2.
Marking the end of work for the trip I moved to a hotel on Sukhumvit by the afternoon and took a nice long nap to get ready for the evening. I had a friend in town from Europe who I promised to meet up with later. He came to my hotel lobby and we headed around the corner to Soi Cowboy again (Duty calls when you need to show someone around BKK for the first time! We started at Baccara again, it was around 10:30 pm by now and we went up to the second floor. This time they did make us buy drinks before we went in, weird as he's white? Not being racist just factual.
We went up to the second floor, the first floor was very crowded but there were some good looking ladies on stage but it was very cramped so we couldn't really get a good look. We sat by the bar on the second floor and observed the dancing ladies. Once again the quality was not what I was used to when I last went to BKK but it's a nice place to start the evening. We had a couple of drinks and moved on.
Went into Shark again and it was almost empty aside from a good selection of ladies on stage. We sat up on the left in one of the booths and ordered some drinks. We were approached by a few girls after their stage changes and after the first couple my friend decided to buy lady drink for one fo them. She wasn't super pushy she was nice and polite, wanted us to buy drinks for her friends but we politely said maybe later, that was the truth. After the first lady went away my friend spotted a very attractive girl on stage, looked young and had an amazing body. More on her later. She joined us for a lady drink and was a sweet friendly girl, decent conversation.
Since it was my friend's first time in BKK we couldn't just stay at Cowboy so we moved onto the club scene. We got into a cab to head to Levels, somewhere I've had an all around decent time before and it's not too dodgy. When we got there we were told they were closed but that we should walk down the road a little to Sugar Club. So we did. Went in, paid 300 Bhat to get in, we got a free drink which was alright but it's a bit pricey if you ask me.
Had a few more drinks at Sugar club, there was a mix of WG's and non-WG's and some band from the states with dancers who were terrible. Now by this point we were getting fairly loaded and decided it was time to go somewhere a little more hole on the wall / world-ish. Into another cab and we headed to, wait for it, don't judge me: Shock39- Yes it's a hole in the wall and a stain on humanity, but it can be a lot of fun sometimes.
We got there and paid 200 bhat to get in with a free drink. Walked in and did the customary rounds and settled into a corner near some of the eastern european ladies, one of whom took a liking to me (Not really she could probably smell fear.) And we chatted and bought them a couple of drinks and did a little dancing. At this point I decided to do another round to see what else was available and went over to the bar on the other side of the club and started talking to another Ukrainian lady who was fairly decent looking and good conversation but we didn't make a deal s she wanted a little more than I was willing to part with later in the night. It was getting late so my friend left I did a couple more rounds however didn't settle on anyone and ended up heading home alone, which is fine as I've made stupid decisions in the past and I still had a couple of nights left. There selection was actually fairly decent in Shock that night.
Day 3.
Woke up late as I slept late from the previous night and whatever swill they gave us as whisky wasnt sitting well with me.
Now, I had already decided I wanted to go and get one of two ladies from Shark that I saw the night before. First stop at the drugstore to pick up safety gear and then straight to Cowboy again. I sat down at the bar at the end of cowboy and had a beer and watch people go by before going right into Shark. This time it was very crowded but luckity since I had gone in the last three nights, the waitress recognized me and made some space for me on the right side of the stage. Down I sat and started looking for the ladies I had made a mental note of the nights before! My top choice, the girl that my friend bought a drink for the noght before, the super young looking hot one was on stage! Yes! I made eye contact and a few smiles and motions later she came and sat next to me and I proceeded to buy her a drink as well as the waitress and get chatting. She was sweet and friendly and had a great little body and a very pretty face, a little more Korean or Japanese looking. We went through a couple of rounds before I bar fined her. 600 bhat bar fine and 3000 bhat ST for her. She went and changed into a black jumpsuit which was nice and not very WG looking and we walked back to my hotel. Got to the room and we chatted for a bit, like I said she was sweet and friendly. Then she went off for a shower and I got undressed ready for mine. Both back in bed after our showers and light touching and kissing and then down to an amazing BJ with just the right amount of teeth! She put the condom on and started to ride me, she was small and therefore very tight. I'm not a big buy by any means, average. She rode me cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. Not wanting to finish too soon I lay her down for mish and went right to work getting her a little wetter and moaning just the right amount (Real or fake I didn't really care but she seemed genuine). Had a great finish and we lay there for a while before she went off to shower. The entire session probably lasted about an hour and a half from door to finish. That's fine it was ST and I knew I wanted to go out after. Got her number for the next trip!
After I cleaned up and changed I got into a cab to head to Mixx which was closed and I could hear someone WG's say they were heading to Shock39 - yes I know, again, don't judge me I'm easily entertained. Same deal with 200 bucks to get in and a free drink. This time I stuck to beer as I didn't want the mother of all hangovers the next day! I walked around and saw both the ladies from the night before whom I didn't take, clearly they scorned at me LOL! After one round I saw a wonderful girl whom I'd gone with a few years ago, black haired Russian girl. Made a beeline for her and she remembered me as we'd been with each other a number of times in the past. She looked exactly the same, same great body, tall and the same great GFE personality. Got right into a cab and back to my hotel and we had drinks in the room and chatted for quite a while catching up on the last few years. She's really a nice girl and great conversation without any communication barriers. Off she went for a shower and into bed after. Pretty much the same great experience as the past, CBJ that felt like a Dyson! She rode me really well while doing keegles, that makes it hard to last, and I didn't very long. Both of us fell asleep. I woke up a few hours later with her rubbing the guy downstairs, she went right to another CBJ and then right back on top of me, thsi time for a lot longer. I lay her on her back and started really getting into her in mish and enjoyed myself thoroughly, taking my time this time all the while she was keegling, felt amazing! Finished in mish and fell asleep and she went to shower. Saw her off and got her new number, will give her a call next time I'm in town as she really is great company and never disappoints!
That's pretty much the gist of the trip, it was a short one and I hadn't been the BKK in a few years and wanted to stay in a relative comfort zone this time. I could probably have done more and gone to newer and / or better places but I'll leave that for the next trip. Just wanted to have a nice easy time this trip. Planning to return in the next couple of months so I'll be a little more adventurous next time and hit up some of the MP's in the day and some of the smaller clubs.
Till next time! Cheers!
A long cab ride later we all arrived at the front entrance of Soi Cowboy and proceeded straight to the back and into Baccara (My suggestion as I know Cowboy relatively well). There was no room on the first or second floor so they seated us up on the third floor, first time for me up there. There were only 4 or 5 ladies dancing topless up there but it was short lived as one of the waitresses found us a large booth on the second floor and down we went! The second floor had many many more ladies, again all topless as is the case with Baccara. Most of them all had boob jobs, most of them not so great. We had and had a couple of drinks here and fended off some of the more direct advances from the ladies. I cannot help but notice that the quality at Baccara has gone down. See further in my TR. What I do like about Baccara is that no one is pushy and it's a good looking place for a first start of the night. They did not make us buy a drink when we walked in at the bar outside, they probably figured we would once we got inside.
We went into Shark next, it wasn't too crowded but they had considerably more ladies than at Baccara. We sat on the front right booths facing the stage (They all face the stage anyways) and ordered a round of drinks! The ladies at Shark were much better looking than those at Baccara and we were all pretty happy to sit there through a couple more rounds of drinks. One of the guys in our group ended up buying lady drinks for a couple of the girls and it was great fun! Since I was going to be in BKK for a few more nights I made careful note of the numbers whom I would want to return for the next night.
After Shark we went into Tilac I believe (It was late and we were tired). We had a couple more drinks in there before we decide to call it a night. Nothing to really write home about in Tilac, the ladies were OK but nothing special, not nearly as good as Shark.
In Baccara, you have to realise it is the uglier group of girls with horrible boob jobs that work on the 2nd floor. Still it is very much a high surgeries bar. I do agree that Shark has some better looking girls (and Tilac is ordinary). You should have checked out the skinny nudie girls in Crazy House around the corner.
For Shark, you failed to make mention of the difference between the Coyote girls and the gogo girls. The Coyotes have 3 or 4 very pretty girls, but it is harder to see if they have boobs or not (too covered up). Anyway we can conclude from your BF price, you must have taken a gogo girl wearing a see-through outfit. You could mention if she had A-cups or the-cups and if they were natural, tall or short (you say "little") since you gave so much other detail. LOL Did she have a name at all? Or maybe that is secret? My young girl in there is called Patty and my older girl is called Maa (but still very hot). Also I know Noi since many years (from Sheba days) but she just started at Shark, last Saturday I think.
Banana Boi
10-26-17, 08:26
We went into Shark next, it wasn't too crowded but they had considerably more ladies than at Baccara. I've never been to Shark in Bangkok since Shark in Pattaya doesn't have top tier girls for my taste. However, if there are more girls than Baccara I'll definitely have to check it out.
Now I'm curious. Using Baccara as a benchmark, which other BKK gogo bars, regardless of quality, have more girls than Baccara?
I've never been to Shark in Bangkok since Shark in Pattaya doesn't have top tier girls for my taste. However, if there are more girls than Baccara I'll definitely have to check it out.
Now I'm curious. Using Baccara as a benchmark, which other BKK gogo bars, regardless of quality, have more girls than Baccara?No no, Shark does not have any where near the number of girls in Baccara, they also have less ugly ones, and definitely miles less really horrible tit jobs. LOL.
As I said before, some of the Coyotes look outstanding, and I can't find that in Baccara, maybe because the Stage in Baccara is too densely packed to find the best girls anyway. I am aware Baccara has some outstanding girls (in previous visits). One such stunner showed no interest in me whatsoever, I think was keen to pursue a young handsome spunk (actually a Farang) that she probably knew already. We don't have so many LB lookalikes in Shark. LOL There are some not so great tits jobs in Shark but not excessively so. I don't even notice an over abundance of nose jobs, although I have seen some. For the Shark gogo girls, I only found about 2 of them are to my taste, so most possibly someone else's taste. 3 or 4 Coyotes really hot looking at least, but you have the risk of a steep BF for those.
No need to compare Shark Pattaya with Shark Bangkok at all. I have no clue if there is any similarity. Similarly Suzie Wong in the two locations may have no resemblance whatsoever.
Major Warning. Shark lady drinks are very expensive at just over 200 Baht. It could be the Coyote girl drinks are higher, I am not sure. I think Crazy Cats may have very expensive Lady Drinks as well.
Lighthouse is a sister bar to Shark, so might be worth a look. Years ago it was called Sheba (at that location) and was my favourite bar at the time (pre Crazy House opening). Doll House and Long Gun were pretty horrible at last visits so nothing like they once were. Tilac has always been substandard for looks for my taste. Maybe just not enough skinny girls with pretty faces. I did a very tall skinny girl from Tilac once, but I dare not say she was actually really pretty. Only the best available at the time, given plenty of pudgy ones.
I have been bored with CH in recent times. The new talent had some major defects (like the horror sillies) and my favourites are generally missing. I just await the arrival of some new stunner or the return of some old favourite. Very cautious to try any new girls lately. Girls I have known for years are continually out performing any new tries, by significant margins.
Crazy Cats has some reasonable looking Coyote girls but the barfines are 2 K for all girls. Ouch! Need to try some very small bars like Cactus and Toy Bar again to see if any talent has showed up lately. Good looking girls seem to come and go from very small bars.
Did anyone actually get a fuck today? LOL.
Should I risk to go looking for one? I am a little scared to ask my regulars in case they think it is unseemly.
Banana Boi
10-26-17, 14:43
Did anyone actually get a fuck today? LOL.Just came back from a quick walk around Pattaya. I see 1000's of lonely men just walking around. Very few Thai girls with them. Thai girls are with their real Thai boyfriends tonight.
Member #4591
10-26-17, 16:51
Just came back from a quick walk around Pattaya. I see 1000's of lonely men just walking around. Very few Thai girls with them. Thai girls are with their real Thai boyfriends tonight.Look on Thai Friendly. They are all on there trying to find a date for the night and you guys are walking the streets trying to find them. LOL.
Member #4591
10-26-17, 16:52
Did anyone actually get a fuck today? LOL.
Should I risk to go looking for one? I am a little scared to ask my regulars in case they think it is unseemly.Look on the websites and the apps. They are all there lookimg for dates. Smooci also has 30'ladies working now.
Member #4591
10-26-17, 16:53
Look on the websites and the apps. They are all there lookimg for dates.Smooci has 30 ladies.
Banana Boi
10-26-17, 17:02
Look on Thai Friendly. They are all on there trying to find a date for the night and you guys are walking the streets trying to find them. LOL.I never have to walk streets looking for girls. I had 5 gogo girls on Line who wanted to hook up today and tonight. I was out looking for food. Turned out to be a much tougher challenge than finding girls with all the full service massage parlors that remained open.
StarMariner
10-26-17, 22:18
Hi,
I am sure this query has been addressed on multiple occasions but I do ask your patience while I make the inquiry below from my fellow mongers, particularly those who have recent and up-to-date information. I am looking forward to a trip to Bangkok in a few weeks time and I want to get together with three bi girls. I do want to invite them to my hotel room.
Any suggestions as to where I should go to guarantee this would be enormously appreciated and I will provided a detailed report after the event.
Thanks.
Hi,
Any suggestions as to where I should go to guarantee this would be enormously appreciated and I will provided a detailed report after the event.
Thanks.The cliff notes version is 1. Go to a bar and ask for a girl goes with other girls, 2. Ask her to pick a friend, 3. Have them make out with each other right there. Alternately pick a girl you like and as her directly and if she says yes, go to steps 2 and three. Repeat as needed to get up to your required number. You also can consider to go to Eden club, which requires you to take 2+ girls.
Hi,
I am sure this query has been addressed on multiple occasions but I do ask your patience while I make the inquiry below from my fellow mongers, particularly those who have recent and up-to-date information. I am looking forward to a trip to Bangkok in a few weeks time and I want to get together with three bi girls. I do want to invite them to my hotel room.
Any suggestions as to where I should go to guarantee this would be enormously appreciated and I will provided a detailed report after the event.
Thanks.I recently posted a report where 3 gogo girls in Shark (all ex Suzi Wong) offered me a 4 some. Pat, Maa, and Noi. I don't think they are exactly lesbian but do have experience working in 3 somes or 4 somes. Some of them have performed in Lesbian shows at SW. If I had the energy and the spare money, I would take it. A few years back I was doing it.
Did anyone actually get a fuck today? LOL.
Should I risk to go looking for one? I am a little scared to ask my regulars in case they think it is unseemly.This reply is a day late, of course, but as a matter of social/cultural interest I can report I was contacted yesterday by one regular (29 year old) freelancer and two (mid-20's) go-go dancers I'd only been with once before who wanted to meet me for a P4P exchange. I decided on a non P4P 20 year old who I have been seeing for several weeks now. She came over about 3PM, stayed all night and I had a wonderful unseemly fuck with her. As was the case with the other girls who Lined me, there was not one word mentioned about the King's funeral or the assumed downbeat mood of the day.
On the other hand, I see on the Line Timelines of a few other go-go dancers and freelancers I know updates with photos of them from yesterday wearing black, holding photos of the late King and gathering with other mourners near the Grand Palace.
I never have to walk streets looking for girls. I had 5 gogo girls on Line who wanted to hook up today and tonight. I was out looking for food. Turned out to be a much tougher challenge than finding girls with all the full service massage parlors that remained open.Yes I was happy to have my fridge stocked up.
My LINE girls are generally more conservative, unless very short of money indeed. They tend to wait for me to call and offer to hook up. Not sure I need 5 girls all trying to get me on the same day. Nice to be popular though.
We started at Baccara again, it was around 10:30 pm by now and we went up to the second floor. This time they did make us buy drinks before we went in, weird as he's white? Not being racist just factual.
This has nothing to do with skin color. On busy nights they want all customers to buy a drink first.
I return to Bangkok next week after 3 or 4 years of not visiting the Capital, will a taximeter use the meter from BKK to Nana Hotel or is it a case of agreeing the fare beforehand?
If I remember right it should be in the 350-400 thb fare range to Soi 4.
TIA.
I return to Bangkok next week after 3 or 4 years of not visiting the Capital, will a taximeter use the meter from BKK to Nana Hotel or is it a case of agreeing the fare beforehand?
If I remember right it should be in the 350-400 thb fare range to Soi 4.
TIA.I you go by meter is should be well under 300 Baht, maybe 250 at most (depending on traffic), given Soi 4 is not my typical destination. However if you add on the tollway charges will be more like 350 I guess.
I am sure if was late at night and a Thai passenger they would get off the expressway at Ekkamai or similar to avoid the tolls and possible end up with a cost of well under 250 Baht.
I have not had a taxi not use the meter from airport in recent memory. I get a taxi from departure level to save airport 50 Baht surcharge and save time. Key point is not to go with a driver that is not sitting in his taxi. The more the guy pursues me, the more I don't want him. Just can't be bothered with the hassle of haggling with him over a price. The drivers sitting in the taxi when I approach, will just turn on the meter automatically.
Maybe it is not same for everyone. I speak Thai (could make a difference).
This has nothing to do with skin color. On busy nights they want all customers to buy a drink first.I sincerely doubt that. Not all customers are absolutely equal. Well known Japanese customers will walk straight in, I am quite sure. They just decide which customers they don't wish to alienate.
Personally I don't want to buy a drink before seeing if there is a good seat available on the first floor. Upstairs girls just don't cut it for me. Same applies at Crazy and Shark. I am not going to be relegated to upstairs.
I return to Bangkok next week after 3 or 4 years of not visiting the Capital, will a taximeter use the meter from BKK to Nana Hotel or is it a case of agreeing the fare beforehand?
If I remember right it should be in the 350-400 thb fare range to Soi 4.
TIA.If you can. I'd take the airport rail link lot quicker and cheaper. You just can't have a ton of baggage.
I sincerely doubt that. Not all customers are absolutely equal. Well known Japanese customers will walk straight in, I am quite sure. They just decide which customers they don't wish to alienate.
Personally I don't want to buy a drink before seeing if there is a good seat available on the first floor. Upstairs girls just don't cut it for me. Same applies at Crazy and Shark. I am not going to be relegated to upstairs.Well, I would agree with Mogwai's wording of it in his earlier reply. Generally speaking, the overall reason for the door man or servers at Bacarra to point to the outside bar when you approach the doorway indicating you need to buy a drink first is because they "want" you to buy one before you go inside, walk around looking for a seat on the lower flioor, not find one, not want to go upstairs (as you don't), and accomplish nothing for the bar except bottle neck the aisle and block the view of others while you circle the bottom floor stage and eyeball the girls. They "want" you to have already bought a drink so you will resign yourself to at least taking a seat in an otherwise undesirable location until you finish it. Meanwhile, you might buy another or spot a girl worthy of a Lady Drink anyway.
In that regard it isn't generally about skin color or desirable customers vs undesirable customers.
But "wanting" isn't the same as "getting" and they will certainly ignore that expectation for some. Simply recognizing you as a regular, reliable customer might be enough for the doorman to let you in without buying a drink first while others are required to.
I don't believe I fit the ethnic or skin color profile to be considered a potential waste of their space or whatever but I have been directed to the outside bar to buy a drink first on busy nights there. But several times I have just looked at the doorman a moment, smiled, and when or if he recognizes me as a customer who has been dropping in from time to time for years he gestures for me to go right in.
I arrived yesterday, Oct 10 midday. I was expecting closures for the Kings Funeral. I was surprised that even the 7-11's and Family Marts closed. Bangkok was eerily quiet late last night and early this morning. Sukhumvit was dark and deserted. Tonight Soi Cowboy and probably Nana, remain closed. (A few of the Soi Cowboy bars were having repairs done.) Many business remain closed. But the massage parlors on Soi 23 are open. Luckily, I have contacts in Bangkok. One has come over and is keeping me company. Hopefully, the debauchery returns to normal tomorrow.
Hi all,
About five of us are going to Asia for the first time (some first time leaving the US) and have been doing a lot of research. The one thing we're not sure about is pricing. We are inexperienced and have saved a bit so are trying to messing up the local economy by over paying (too much. I'm sure we'll get scammed at least once).
I've found some prices for BJ / HJ bars. I think we'll start here as it seems pretty organized and simple and we have no idea what we're doing.
These should be 500 for HJ and 1000 baht for BJ.
-Toy Bar.
-Wood Bar.
-Magic Table.
If we go to any of the bars / strip clubs on Soi Cowboy and want FS then the breakout is:
LD: 150.
Barfine: 500 - 1000.
FS: 2,000 for ST.
Quick question here: At a stripclub / gogo bar if we just want a BJ do they have rooms or do we have to leave the spot?
When we head to the islands is it easy to tell which massage places are FS?
We are heading there in Dec so it'll be awhile but I'll do a full report.
I return to Bangkok next week after 3 or 4 years of not visiting the Capital, will a taximeter use the meter from BKK to Nana Hotel or is it a case of agreeing the fare beforehand?
If I remember right it should be in the 350-400 thb fare range to Soi 4.Some taxi drivers will ask for 500 or maybe 600 baht flat fee. If that happens, then you need to be firm, nice, smile, and say "meter". Some ex-pats I've met complained they've been ripped off at the airport. I've have always gotten them to use their meters. Although these days, I've read that the Thai authorities have taken steps to reign in these rip off taxis. The percentage of rip off taxis should be less than previous years.
You taxi fare range is close. It is 50 baht surcharge (for the official taxis), plus 2 tollway charges, plus 200 something on the meter.
You can avoid the 50 baht surcharge by going upstairs to the arrival level, but they've installed one way turnstiles (is it still there?) Then you have to hop over a short fence with your luggage, which I refuse to do.
If traffic is light, you can avoid the tollway charges and have a smaller meter charge by going up Sukhumvit (I think via Rama IX). It will take a little longer though. With heavy traffic, it will take a lot longer. I tried that once, but the taxi driver played dumb and asked, "how do I get there?" WTF! Taxi driver wants to go via the tollways because it's faster with higher meter charges.
You can save money and use the airport rail link. But you still have to take a taxi from the rail station. After a 22 hour flight, I don't like to do that.
Note: if you take the taxi via the tollways, you will turn left into Sukhumvit (Thais drive on the left hand side). Quickest way to get to Nana hotel is to make the taxi stop at the intersection of Sukhumvit/Soi Nana, and cross the street and walk about 100 meters to your hotel. If you want the taxi to drop you off in front of your hotel, you need to make a detour due to the no right turn rule and all the way one streets. I believe there is a short detour which goes through a hospital parking lot, and a long detour path which you arrive via Soi Nana from the other side. Some taxi drivers might try to take that really long detour.
This has nothing to do with skin color. On busy nights they want all customers to buy a drink first.From my very limited observations, I've seen East Asians walk in without buying a drink, and I've seen White guys be forced to buy a drink.
I don't like to go there because it seems you can't get a good seat on the first level.
Are Indians still denied entry into Baccarra? Or are they charged cover charges?
I want to get together with three bi girls. I do want to invite them to my hotel room.
Any suggestions as to where I should go to guarantee this would be enormously appreciatedI'm not sure where you can get true bi-sexual girls, but you can get girls to perform lesbian shows.
The guarantee place will be the Eden Club. PSE effort. But the problem is that the girls are older and marginal looking. You will have to pay extra to take the girls to your hotel room.
Also, you should be able to get the girls to do lesbian stuff at the PSE massage parlors, such as Tulip and Snow White. Just ask before you choose the girls. Problem is most of the girls will be marginal looking.
For younger, cuter girls, you should go to the go-go bars. You will probably need to talk to many girls. Maybe ask the mamasan. Make sure you ask all the right questions. Problem is that some of the girls will say yes at the bar, and not perform at the hotel room. You just have to keep on doing it, until you find your list of submissive girls.
From my very limited observations, I've seen East Asians walk in without buying a drink, and I've seen White guys be forced to buy a drink.
I don't like to go there because it seems you can't get a good seat on the first level.
I'm a white guy who has been waved in without buying a drink outside on busy nights when others are directed to the outside bar to buy one first, even East Asians. But the doorman still tries to send me over to the outside bar first. I don't know for sure if they (there is more than one doorman, of course) change their mind and wave me in anyway because they recognize me as an occasional customer or simply because I stand there for a moment thinking it over and appear to be about to change my mind about going inside at all. But they often do change their mind. I am fairly certain it has nothing to do with whether or not I am known to buy a lot of drinks inside because the doormen would probably never know that. But they would have seen me enter several times previously and sometimes walk out with a barfined girl.
There are times when I don't bother with the stand-off and just buy a drink outside anyway. In some ways it is more convenient to do that and offers its own rewards. I will get a drink much faster, be able to control the payment and a reasonable tip issue, no monkey business with that, and I find that holding a drink in your hand when the place is packed gives you a visible ticket to roam on foot from area to area and level to level without having to deal with the sit here, sit here, sit here insistence from the servers who want to be the one to bring you a drink and get a tip.
Another thing is, I think the idea of only wanting a seat on the first level in places like Baccara and Crazy House is a somewhat silly concern and, in my experience, misses a rather obvious better use of the higher levels if scanning and engaging the talent up close and personal to decide if you want to barfine one is your primary goal in entering that bar (that would generally be me) rather than sitting there for a long time buying several drinks (that would almost never be me). The upper levels in those bars is where the lady's toilet is located. If you find yourself relegated to those upper levels due to the crowd, just position yourself near where virtually every girl in the joint will pass by or well within your view on her way to or from the toilet and throw the most interesting ones a big smile and nod. There is no rule forbidding the girls dancing on the lower level stage from chatting with a customer on the upper level in this way, or even sitting for a Lady Drink if that is necessary to chat further.
For instance, it is difficult to check out the girls behind the front row of the onstage line up on the lower level of Baccara. But not when they come down from that stage and walk right past you sitting on a couch on the upper level on their way to and from the toilet. And you know the bit in the bars, particularly infamous in Crazy House, where you buy the girl a Lady Drink as soon as she gets off the stage, she takes a sip and says, "I go to toilet, hon", but you never see her again except after she has donned her street clothes and is on her way out the door with some other dude? Well, the upper level where the toilet is located is where you can turn out to be that other dude, maybe without buying her a Lady Drink at all. LOL. I have met, engaged in chat and barfined Baccara and CH girls from the lower level stages that way. More than once or twice.
June at tulip. 100%bisexual and nothing phases her. She loves to eat pussy, her words not mine. Get her to select someone else. Won't win a model contest but your pornstar fantasies will come true. Mine did. She spent a good ten minutes licking Anne to orgasm in my session. For hardcore pse lesbian stuff as well.
I'm not sure where you can get true bi-sexual girls, but you can get girls to perform lesbian shows.
The guarantee place will be the Eden Club. PSE effort. But the problem is that the girls are older and marginal looking. You will have to pay extra to take the girls to your hotel room.
Also, you should be able to get the girls to do lesbian stuff at the PSE massage parlors, such as Tulip and Snow White. Just ask before you choose the girls. Problem is most of the girls will be marginal looking.
For younger, cuter girls, you should go to the go-go bars. You will probably need to talk to many girls. Maybe ask the mamasan. Make sure you ask all the right questions. Problem is that some of the girls will say yes at the bar, and not perform at the hotel room. You just have to keep on doing it, until you find your list of submissive girls.
June at tulip. 100%bisexual and nothing phases her. She loves to eat pussy, her words not mine. Get her to select someone else. Won't win a model contest but your pornstar fantasies will come true. Mine did. She spent a good ten minutes licking Anne to orgasm in my session. For hardcore pse lesbian stuff as well.You are right about going to Tulip for a true lesbian / PSE session. I have had multiple sessions with Ying and Golf and also Phrao and Sindi and have never been disappointed. Real professionals eager to please. In my experience if you are looking for consistently good performance and attitude you need to chose a venue like Tulip. If you are looking for young stunners at the go go bars I think you will be wasting a lot of time and money for a mediocre to poor session.
I'm a white guy who has been waved in without buying a drink outside on busy nights when others are directed to the outside bar to buy one first, even East Asians. But the doorman still tries to send me over to the outside bar first. I don't know for sure if they (there is more than one doorman, of course) change their mind and wave me in anyway because they recognize me as an occasional customer or simply because I stand there for a moment thinking it over and appear to be about to change my mind about going inside at all. But they often do change their mind. I am fairly certain it has nothing to do with whether or not I am known to buy a lot of drinks inside because the doormen would probably never know that. But they would have seen me enter several times previously and sometimes walk out with a barfined girl.
I think it is a safe assumption that they recognise you as a customer where in my case they would not at Baccara. I have BFed perhaps 4 different girls from Baccara, but is a very long time ago. I was actually very lucky that I don't recall any of them being duds, and some got repeated. One had an exceedingly loose pussy (and yet no child as far as I remember) but performed pretty good. I can't see her being that popular for Japanese customers to repeat, with pussy not at all tight.
The doorman are expected to remember customers, even if not all that frequent. In a Long Gun visit, I found myself to be very well known by doorman and inside staff, without having attended for years. They remembered me better than I could remember them when it came to mamasans and similar.
You can avoid the 50 baht surcharge by going upstairs to the arrival level, but they've installed one way turnstiles (is it still there?) Then you have to hop over a short fence with your luggage, which I refuse to do.
Yes it is. I lift my luggage over the fence, and then walk through the one way turnstile in the wrong direction which is possible if rotate the turnstile to position where there is a gap, and assuming you are not too huge at hips / ass level. LOL I am a little overweight but well short of Obese.
It is not so much paying the 50 Baht that concerns me, it is the bureaucracy involved and time wasted waiting in a queue in line for the taxi. That could be 10 minutes wait at busy times, maybe more. Thais do everything inefficiently. On departure level, no wait at all, and I have a choice of which taxi/driver appeals to me.
You can save money and use the airport rail link. But you still have to take a taxi from the rail station. After a 22 hour flight, I don't like to do that.You don't have to take a taxi from the railway station. You can either take the MRT (underground) from Makkasan or the BTS (skytrain) from Phaya Thai.
27 Oct I had been told the Bangkok Bars would be closed and alcohol sales not allowed (still). So we decided to go to T Det-99 in Saphan Kwai (Sutthisan Road) not far from BTS Ari I think.
Strangely the Thai bars were open and selling Alcohol, although they were very quiet, and not that many girls. The dancing on the table tops was extremely light on, and the mamasan LB suggested that the dancing would return to normal on 1 Nov.
The mamasan was trying very hard to push certain girls on us. I was trying to resist strongly as I normally like to choose. LOL Choosing would be tricky of course as was very dark in there, especially when not accustomed to the low light. I didn't like most suggested girls too much due to being allergic to high levels of "Sanyagum" (surgeries).
I decided to stop the hassling by selecting a girl. However very difficult due to low lighting as I mentioned. I called over a girl that had given me an immense smile on entering, not exactly pretty, just not too ugly and clearly all natural. She took to me like a house on fire and was soon cuddling up and playing around a bit like a naughty monkey. LOL.
BKK Dog had also picked a girl, and I could see she was prettier and looked to have a good body too, maybe. With my girl I had hardly seen the body at all. She wasn't fat thighed, but I had no clue if the covered body was really any good at all. She was quite short. The girls to not get up for dancing so this made it all the harder to see if bodies were any good. Normally I prefer to she girls dance on stage under good lighting and as scantily clad as possible. It is not easy to check out the figure of a girl sitting next to you unless you start molesting big time.
The bill was quite reasonable, as pay a lot less for drinks and food than would in a cowboy bar including drinks for the girl. Food menu was in Thai script and quite extensive, (difficult to read in low light). First up I ordered "Puu Phat Phong Karee" (stir fried crab in yellow curry powder) Had to change to prawn as they had no crab. We also had Cashews and French fries.
Fee for a girl ST is 2500 Baht which includes BF, and ST room charge (300 paid by girl to the ST Hotel). ST is only 1 hour though at the ST Hotel.
Spotted a really stunning surgeries girl, with acceptable nose job, but really bad half coconut shell like bolt-ONS. I made a wise-crack about LB looks to my girl, and she commented that yes some of the dancers maybe actually ladyboys, possiblty post-op, since she mentioned the cutting off of the dick (maybe just a joke. I can't say). So I can't say I spotted and dancing girl that was a LB for certain, but felt slightly unsure.
My girl turned out to be a Chiang Rai farm girl, with very little experience, aged 25, worked in T Det only 2 weeks as previously factory only paid about 300 Baht per day. Very low English ability (almost none). Never fucked a Farang in her life. For some reason she seemed to like Farangs a lot. Hard to fathom. Probably she had bad experiences with Thai guys. In the end decided to take a major non-cautious gamble and BF her purely as she seemed to have a good attitude (a very often misleading thing).
As one would expect, for a girl of very low experience, she did not know much at all about sex. With clothes off, I could see her body was way below the standard I expect from bar girls, but not a total disaster area. Tits rather pancake style. It appeared she had never experienced DATY, but took to it very well. After I was getting tired of DATY, I was about to change, and the girl brazenly pushes my head back down there. WTF? She indicates "Naam yang mai taek" literally "her waters have not yet broken". A euphemism for no cum as yet. So I had to persist and after maybe 30 to 40 minutes she finally made it. The time left in the room was starting to get low. Ha ha. So I tried to tongue kiss her. Nothing doing. She never has done that before. LOL She likes to kiss the nose. LOL Ask for a BJ. She has never done that before either. She claims Thai boys don't ask for BJ, they just fuck straight off. I ask her how come she wanted me to lick her clit for so long but is not wanting to return the service. She does not know how to, is her only excuse. Okay So had to wank myself up (she was not good at it) while fingering her pussy (partially resisted).
She relaxed her legs beautifully well for the fuck part, but somehow her pussy did not have the right feel for me at the deeper levels. Don't know why. So was not a great feeling pussy for the fuck. All up a pretty much disaster fuck, as one might expect, with so little knowledge and experience, and bad luck the pussy fit just not quite right for me. Not all pussies are equal. LOL I have tight girls and not so tight girls, but have to feel good at the deeper levels.
I have to remind myself of girl selection criteria for a fuck that I should not relax too much, ideally.
1. Pretty Face.
2. Great curvy slim body, with tits preferably having been seen uncovered or groped. Need to have seen the girl properly in a standing position.
3. Fun loving, not to serious, and showing keenness. I guess the girl passed this criteria.
4. Several years of extensive sex experience.
5. Plenty of experience fucking Farangs ideally, so not dick scared.
6. Knows how to give BBBJs.
7. Willing to give a sample tongue kissing in the bar, even if a bit surreptitiously.
8. For absolute stunners, some criteria could be relaxed a little like "experience with Farangs", due to possibly being worth the risk in case of getting lucky to find an exceptional girl.
I remind myself, that for many years I had mostly bad experiences with Nataree girls, because they were mostly inexperienced farm girls sometimes from Myanmar, they were contract debt girls, forced to do it, and so not really into it, etc. The more experienced girls in the fishbowl were better. I have to remind me that I am not so horny an individual, that any girl will do. They have to know how to make a good sex session, how to move their body, etc. Have to know how to BBBJ and tongue kiss. Not easy to find in Thai oriented Soapies except for more experienced girls. All my favourite girls have years of experience. They know what has to be done to turn me on a lot, even the relatively shy one.
So I ask myself, how could I take a girl who really only passed one of the criteria with flying colours? Brain fade. LOL Unfucked for a few days influencing me.
Tonight the rectification. I look forward to one of my super sexy super expert super experienced long time favourite girls, who prefers Farangs, preferably not too small. A girl that has been fabulous from the very first time with her. Often she has not had a fuck since the last time I saw her.
BKK Dog report that T Det at one time had naked girl lap dances for 100 Baht per go in the past. This has been stamped out since police raids. Why do the police have to spoil the fun? What is so bad about girls being naked? Works well at Crazy House, a Police "affiliated" bar, I think.
T Det remains mostly a curiosity for me. The prices are good, but girls are mostly for Thai taste, and so nothing drags me back there in a big hurry. Some pretty faces, but some of those girls has odd shaped bodies, due to either pudge or surgeries.
Why do girls work in a lower class place like this? If they were really top class they could be in a Coyote Club for Thais or a Soapy. Some of the girls have friends that work there. So they don't want to go into a Cowboy bar with no friends for moral support. Maybe they can't speak English. Perhaps they are able to avoid customers they don't like. Also they have probably fucked plenty of Thais but lack farang experience (not a good thing).
June at tulip. 100%bisexual and nothing phases her. She loves to eat pussy, her words not mine. Get her to select someone else. Won't win a model contest but your pornstar fantasies will come true. Mine did. She spent a good ten minutes licking Anne to orgasm in my session. For hardcore pse lesbian stuff as well.Good performer, June, but too hard on the eyes for my taste. Late 30's, more than one kid, and it shows. Anne looks great from the back, but again, lots of baby damage. I'm becoming a bit pickier looks wise as I enter my 50's. Just not interested in a 35 up gal with mommy body. Then again, I am not interested in a stunning 22 year old who does not perform. Finding a mid-20's who looks good, has a killer body, and will rim, CIM, A+, etc etc is a unicorn these days. It's a real quandary actually and has led to me partaking very little these days. Frustrating really. I miss the old days of Mango and Snow when the gals were actually attractive and fun.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 10:32
27 Oct I had been told the Bangkok Bars would be closed and alcohol sales not allowed (still). So we decided to go to T Det-99 in Saphan Kwai (Sutthisan Road) not far from BTS Ari I think.
Strangely the Thai bars were open and selling Alcohol, although they were very quiet, and not that many girls. The dancing on the table tops was extremely light on, and the mamasan LB suggested that the dancing would return to normal on 1 Nov.
The mamasan was trying very hard to push certain girls on us. I was trying to resist strongly as I normally like to choose. LOL Choosing would be tricky of course as was very dark in there, especially when not accustomed to the low light. I didn't like most suggested girls too much due to being allergic to high levels of "Sanyagum" (surgeries).
I decided to stop the hassling by selecting a girl. However very difficult due to low lighting as I mentioned. I called over a girl that had given me an immense smile on entering, not exactly pretty, just not too ugly and clearly all natural. She took to me like a house on fire and was soon cuddling up and playing around a bit like a naughty monkey. LOL.
BKK Dog had also picked a girl, and I could see she was prettier and looked to have a good body too, maybe. With my girl I had hardly seen the body at all. She wasn't fat thighed, but I had no clue if the covered body was really any good at all. She was quite short. The girls to not get up for dancing so this made it all the harder to see if bodies were any good. Normally I prefer to she girls dance on stage under good lighting and as scantily clad as possible. It is not easy to check out the figure of a girl sitting next to you unless you start molesting big time.
The bill was quite reasonable, as pay a lot less for drinks and food than would in a cowboy bar including drinks for the girl. Food menu was in Thai script and quite extensive, (difficult to read in low light). First up I ordered "Puu Phat Phong Karee" (stir fried crab in yellow curry powder) Had to change to prawn as they had no crab. We also had Cashews and French fries.
Fee for a girl ST is 2500 Baht which includes BF, and ST room charge (300 paid by girl to the ST Hotel). ST is only 1 hour though at the ST Hotel.
Spotted a really stunning surgeries girl, with acceptable nose job, but really bad half coconut shell like bolt-ONS. I made a wise-crack about LB looks to my girl, and she commented that yes some of the dancers maybe actually ladyboys, possiblty post-op, since she mentioned the cutting off of the dick (maybe just a joke. I can't say). So I can't say I spotted and dancing girl that was a LB for certain, but felt slightly unsure.
My girl turned out to be a Chiang Rai farm girl, with very little experience, aged 25, worked in T Det only 2 weeks as previously factory only paid about 300 Baht per day. Very low English ability (almost none). Never fucked a Farang in her life. For some reason she seemed to like Farangs a lot. Hard to fathom. Probably she had bad experiences with Thai guys. In the end decided to take a major non-cautious gamble and BF her purely as she seemed to have a good attitude (a very often misleading thing).
As one would expect, for a girl of very low experience, she did not know much at all about sex. With clothes off, I could see her body was way below the standard I expect from bar girls, but not a total disaster area. Tits rather pancake style. It appeared she had never experienced DATY, but took to it very well. After I was getting tired of DATY, I was about to change, and the girl brazenly pushes my head back down there. WTF? She indicates "Naam yang mai taek" literally "her waters have not yet broken". A euphemism for no cum as yet. So I had to persist and after maybe 30 to 40 minutes she finally made it. The time left in the room was starting to get low. Ha ha. So I tried to tongue kiss her. Nothing doing. She never has done that before. LOL She likes to kiss the nose. LOL Ask for a BJ. She has never done that before either. She claims Thai boys don't ask for BJ, they just fuck straight off. I ask her how come she wanted me to lick her clit for so long but is not wanting to return the service. She does not know how to, is her only excuse. Okay So had to wank myself up (she was not good at it) while fingering her pussy (partially resisted).
She relaxed her legs beautifully well for the fuck part, but somehow her pussy did not have the right feel for me at the deeper levels. Don't know why. So was not a great feeling pussy for the fuck. All up a pretty much disaster fuck, as one might expect, with so little knowledge and experience, and bad luck the pussy fit just not quite right for me. Not all pussies are equal. LOL I have tight girls and not so tight girls, but have to feel good at the deeper levels.
I have to remind myself of girl selection criteria for a fuck that I should not relax too much, ideally.
1. Pretty Face.
2. Great curvy slim body, with tits preferably having been seen uncovered or groped. Need to have seen the girl properly in a standing position.
3. Fun loving, not to serious, and showing keenness. I guess the girl passed this criteria.
4. Several years of extensive sex experience.
5. Plenty of experience fucking Farangs ideally, so not dick scared.
6. Knows how to give BBBJs.
7. Willing to give a sample tongue kissing in the bar, even if a bit surreptitiously.
8. For absolute stunners, some criteria could be relaxed a little like "experience with Farangs", due to possibly being worth the risk in case of getting lucky to find an exceptional girl.
I remind myself, that for many years I had mostly bad experiences with Nataree girls, because they were mostly inexperienced farm girls sometimes from Myanmar, they were contract debt girls, forced to do it, and so not really into it, etc. The more experienced girls in the fishbowl were better. I have to remind me that I am not so horny an individual, that any girl will do. They have to know how to make a good sex session, how to move their body, etc. Have to know how to BBBJ and tongue kiss. Not easy to find in Thai oriented Soapies except for more experienced girls. All my favourite girls have years of experience. They know what has to be done to turn me on a lot, even the relatively shy one.
So I ask myself, how could I take a girl who really only passed one of the criteria with flying colours? Brain fade. LOL Unfucked for a few days influencing me.
Tonight the rectification. I look forward to one of my super sexy super expert super experienced long time favourite girls, who prefers Farangs, preferably not too small. A girl that has been fabulous from the very first time with her. Often she has not had a fuck since the last time I saw her.
BKK Dog report that T Det at one time had naked girl lap dances for 100 Baht per go in the past. This has been stamped out since police raids. Why do the police have to spoil the fun? What is so bad about girls being naked? Works well at Crazy House, a Police "affiliated" bar, I think.
T Det remains mostly a curiosity for me. The prices are good, but girls are mostly for Thai taste, and so nothing drags me back there in a big hurry. Some pretty faces, but some of those girls has odd shaped bodies, due to either pudge or surgeries.
Why do girls work in a lower class place like this? If they were really top class they could be in a Coyote Club for Thais or a Soapy. Some of the girls have friends that work there. So they don't want to go into a Cowboy bar with no friends for moral support. Maybe they can't speak English. Perhaps they are able to avoid customers they don't like. Also they have probably fucked plenty of Thais but lack farang experience (not a good thing).Not much else to add here accept to say my girl did have a great body despite having one kid. Her ass was her biggest asset. She knew how to give a good BBJ and attacked me like a mad dog in the room. Spent most of the time in the doggy position. Was able to get off two shots between 12 and 1:30. Good GFE session for me on a quiet night.
Tonight I think a freelancer from Thai Friendly.
Not much else to add here accept to say my girl did have a great body despite having one kid. Her ass was her biggest asset. She knew how to give a good BBJ and attacked me like a mad dog in the room. Spent most of the time in the doggy position. Was able to get off two shots between 12 and 1:30. Good GFE session for me on a quiet night.
Tonight I think a freelancer from Thai Friendly.That's the gal from T-Det? Nice. I'd say a good deal for 2500 all in for 2 shots.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 11:14
That's the gal from T-Det? Nice. I'd say a good deal for 2500 all in for 2 shots.Yep. From her Line.
Not much else to add here accept to say my girl did have a great body despite having one kid. Her ass was her biggest asset. She knew how to give a good BBJ and attacked me like a mad dog in the room. Spent most of the time in the doggy position. Was able to get off two shots between 12 and 1:30. Good GFE session for me on a quiet night.
Tonight I think a freelancer from Thai Friendly.She looked a lot more quiet and reticent than my girl. Perhaps that was a good sign. LOL She also claimed to be all natural with no nose job (sceptical as always). I did notice her covered ass was looking good when she got up to go to the toilet. My girl was too over the top with bubbliness. Like a little monkey. At one stage tried to bite me. LOL Anyway a bad rushed choice from me. I need to really take a long time to choose carefully.
Good performer, June, but too hard on the eyes for my taste. Late 30's, more than one kid, and it shows. Anne looks great from the back, but again, lots of baby damage. I'm becoming a bit pickier looks wise as I enter my 50's. Just not interested in a 35 up gal with mommy body. Then again, I am not interested in a stunning 22 year old who does not perform. Finding a mid-20's who looks good, has a killer body, and will rim, CIM, A+, etc etc is a unicorn these days. It's a real quandary actually and has led to me partaking very little these days. Frustrating really. I miss the old days of Mango and Snow when the gals were actually attractive and fun.I agree about getting so tough.
Not sure that Mango really had any memorable real beauties, however I do agree it declined in talent. Cherry had a great body but face was still a bit limited (at best a 7 for the face). Cat had a cute face but was short and a little pudgy (body miles behind Cherry) and not a pornstar at all. I am not forgetful. I have pics from doing takeout with Cherry, so I can see her real looks. I look back at pics over the years, and I realize I got more picky since my beauties from yesteryear were not really as stunning as I originally thought sometimes. I need to look at the old pics and see if I still find them stunning now. Most of us started from a low baseline of expectations. Like kids in the candy shop.
Good performer, June, but too hard on the eyes for my taste. Late 30's, more than one kid, and it shows. Anne looks great from the back, but again, lots of baby damage. I'm becoming a bit pickier looks wise as I enter my 50's. Just not interested in a 35 up gal with mommy body. Then again, I am not interested in a stunning 22 year old who does not perform. Finding a mid-20's who looks good, has a killer body, and will rim, CIM, A+, etc etc is a unicorn these days. It's a real quandary actually and has led to me partaking very little these days. Frustrating really. I miss the old days of Mango and Snow when the gals were actually attractive and fun.FWIW, don't give up; there are still nice firm gals out there to go with a well strung guitar. I don't know what it is but some of the girls do better recovering and have less visible damage. With some, I could barely tell. Doc sewed the pussy tight and the boobs don't sag.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 21:27
I planned to go to Hillary 2 tonight hoping for some Climax memories. Met up with one of the Managers Paul amd he showed me around Hillary 1,2, and 3. Hillary 1 is a great new bar in the location on the corner of the ally going to Annie's. Anyhow to make a long story short, all the bars are gorgeous and well done up but not set up for mongering. News for all, Climax will reopen at The Ambassador hotel in December. They finally negotiated the new terms with the hotel.
Moving on to Nana. I checked out all the bars such as Twister. Twister was packed full of Japanese guys amd the girls are all the same as the previous Rainbow bar. Some were topless, went. Nothing caught my eye. The new rainbow next door was just aweful and full of uglies. For all those who don't know, the bar on the 3rd floor, renamed as butterfly has finally reopened after their ban but the girls are completely the opposite from before, all fuggly uglies. I never made it back to Billboard as I was accosted by the door girls from. "Enter". This was my first time here and the bar is not popular yet but it has some good talent. My favourite type of girl was there. Completely forgot her name now so no number or name is available, only some photos LOL. Cute little 20 year old with natural big breasts, white skin, and an ass to die for. I spent the next two hours drinking with her and ran up a 3,200 baht LD and beer bill combined. Great fun with this little cute. Bar fine was 1,000 Baht. By the time we got around to leaving she was smashed drunk. A little difficult getting her out of the club. She was wearing these sexy cut off jean shorts and a small white tank top. So fucking sexy. Back to my room she attacked me and we did it in every postition which way with no mention of any see word. A scene straight from the creampie Thais series is the best way for me to explain our session absent the video camara. Sent her home with 3,000 Baht just a few minutes ago.
So some notes for all the punters who have ever considered booking up with a bar girl and taking her for your girlfried. My girl started out by saying she was single. After the session in my room, all of sudden she was showing me her 3 month old baby pictures and photos of her still current Thai boyfriend from Perchabum. He can't take care of this little 20 year old firecracker just 3 days workimg I the bar. I was her first bar fine. Anyways, my point is that 80% of these girls all have a baby and a Thai boyfriend at home who they work for to take care their baby amd his drinking habits. Have fun with these girls and leave it at that.
Finally, enjoy the one snap shot I got of her as I was walking her to the taxi and 3 more from her line.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 21:30
A night out at Nana Plaza.
I planned to go to Hillary 2 tonight hoping for some Climax memories. Met up with one of the Managers Paul amd he showed me around Hillary 1,2, and 3. Hillary 1 is a great new bar in the location on the corner of the ally going to Annie's. Anyhow to make a long story short, all the bars are gorgeous and well done up but not set up for mongering. News for all, Climax will reopen at The Ambassador hotel in December. They finally negotiated the new terms with the hotel.
Moving on to Nana. I checked out all the bars such as Twister. Twister was packed full of Japanese guys amd the girls are all the same as the previous Rainbow bar. Some were topless, went. Nothing caught my eye. The new rainbow next door was just aweful and full of uglies. For all those who don't know, the bar on the 3rd floor, renamed as butterfly has finally reopened after their ban but the girls are completely the opposite from before, all fuggly uglies. I never made it back to Billboard as I was accosted by the door girls from. "Enter". This was my first time here and the bar is not popular yet but it has some good talent. My favourite type of girl was there. Completely forgot her name now so no number or name is available, only some photos LOL. Cute little 20 year old with natural big breasts, white skin, and an ass to die for. I spent the next two hours drinking with her and ran up a 3,200 baht LD and beer bill combined. Great fun with this little cute. Bar fine was 1,000 Baht. By the time we got around to leaving she was smashed drunk. A little difficult getting her out of the club. She was wearing these sexy cut off jean shorts and a small white tank top. So fucking sexy. Back to my room she attacked me and we did it in every postition which way with no mention of any see word. A scene straight from the creampie Thais series is the best way for me to explain our session absent the video camara. Sent her home with 3,000 Baht just a few minutes ago.
So some notes for all the punters who have ever considered booking up with a bar girl and taking her for your girlfried. My girl started out by saying she was single. After the session in my room, all of sudden she was showing me her 3 month old baby pictures and photos of her still current Thai boyfriend from Perchabum. He can't take care of this little 20 year old firecracker just 3 days workimg I the bar. I was her first bar fine. Anyways, my point is that 80% of these girls all have a baby and a Thai boyfriend at home who they work for to take care their baby amd his drinking habits. Have fun with these girls and leave it at that.
Finally, enjoy the one snap shot I got of her as I was walking her to the taxi and 3 more from her line.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 21:33
A night out at Nana Plaza.
I planned to go to Hillary 2 tonight hoping for some Climax memories. Met up with one of the Managers Paul amd he showed me around Hillary 1,2, and 3. Hillary 1 is a great new bar in the location on the corner of the ally going to Annie's. Anyhow to make a long story short, all the bars are gorgeous and well done up but not set up for mongering. News for all, Climax will reopen at The Ambassador hotel in December. They finally negotiated the new terms with the hotel.
Moving on to Nana. I checked out all the bars such as Twister. Twister was packed full of Japanese guys amd the girls are all the same as the previous Rainbow bar. Some were topless, went. Nothing caught my eye. The new rainbow next door was just aweful and full of uglies. For all those who don't know, the bar on the 3rd floor, renamed as butterfly has finally reopened after their ban but the girls are completely the opposite from before, all fuggly uglies. I never made it back to Billboard as I was accosted by the door girls from. "Enter". This was my first time here and the bar is not popular yet but it has some good talent. My favourite type of girl was there. Completely forgot her name now so no number or name is available, only some photos LOL. Cute little 20 year old with natural big breasts, white skin, and an ass to die for. I spent the next two hours drinking with her and ran up a 3,200 baht LD and beer bill combined. Great fun with this little cute. Bar fine was 1,000 Baht. By the time we got around to leaving she was smashed drunk. A little difficult getting her out of the club. She was wearing these sexy cut off jean shorts and a small white tank top. So fucking sexy. Back to my room she attacked me and we did it in every postition which way with no mention of any see word. A scene straight from the creampie Thais series is the best way for me to explain our session absent the video camara. Sent her home with 3,000 Baht just a few minutes ago.
So some notes for all the punters who have ever considered booking up with a bar girl and taking her for your girlfried. My girl started out by saying she was single. After the session in my room, all of sudden she was showing me her 3 month old baby pictures and photos of her still current Thai boyfriend from Perchabum. He can't take care of this little 20 year old firecracker just 3 days workimg I the bar. I was her first bar fine. Anyways, my point is that 80% of these girls all have a baby and a Thai boyfriend at home who they work for to take care their baby amd his drinking habits. Have fun with these girls and leave it at that.
Finally, enjoy the one snap shot I got of her as I was walking her to the taxi and 3 more from her line.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 21:36
A night out at Nana Plaza.
I planned to go to Hillary 2 tonight hoping for some Climax memories. Met up with one of the Managers Paul amd he showed me around Hillary 1,2, and 3. Hillary 1 is a great new bar in the location on the corner of the ally going to Annie's. Anyhow to make a long story short, all the bars are gorgeous and well done up but not set up for mongering. News for all, Climax will reopen at The Ambassador hotel in December. They finally negotiated the new terms with the hotel.
Moving on to Nana. I checked out all the bars such as Twister. Twister was packed full of Japanese guys amd the girls are all the same as the previous Rainbow bar. Some were topless, went. Nothing caught my eye. The new rainbow next door was just aweful and full of uglies. For all those who don't know, the bar on the 3rd floor, renamed as butterfly has finally reopened after their ban but the girls are completely the opposite from before, all fuggly uglies. I never made it back to Billboard as I was accosted by the door girls from. "Enter". This was my first time here and the bar is not popular yet but it has some good talent. My favourite type of girl was there. Completely forgot her name now so no number or name is available, only some photos LOL. Cute little 20 year old with natural big breasts, white skin, and an ass to die for. I spent the next two hours drinking with her and ran up a 3,200 baht LD and beer bill combined. Great fun with this little cute. Bar fine was 1,000 Baht. By the time we got around to leaving she was smashed drunk. A little difficult getting her out of the club. She was wearing these sexy cut off jean shorts and a small white tank top. So fucking sexy. Back to my room she attacked me and we did it in every postition which way with no mention of any see word. A scene straight from the creampie Thais series is the best way for me to explain our session absent the video camara. Sent her home with 3,000 Baht just a few minutes ago.
So some notes for all the punters who have ever considered booking up with a bar girl and taking her for your girlfried. My girl started out by saying she was single. After the session in my room, all of sudden she was showing me her 3 month old baby pictures and photos of her still current Thai boyfriend from Perchabum. He can't take care of this little 20 year old firecracker just 3 days workimg I the bar. I was her first bar fine. Anyways, my point is that 80% of these girls all have a baby and a Thai boyfriend at home who they work for to take care their baby amd his drinking habits. Have fun with these girls and leave it at that.
Finally, enjoy the one snap shot I got of her as I was walking her to the taxi and 3 more from her line.
Member #4698
10-28-17, 21:54
A night out at Nana Plaza.
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I never made it back to Billboard as I was accosted by the door girls from. "Enter". This was my first time here and the bar is not popular yet but it has some good talent. My favourite type of girl was there. Completely forgot her name now so no number or name is available, only some photos LOL. Cute little 20 year old with natural big breasts, white skin, and an ass to die for. I spent the next two hours drinking with her and ran up a 3,200 baht LD and beer bill combined. Great fun with this little cute. Bar fine was 1,000 Baht. By the time we got around to leaving she was smashed drunk. A little difficult getting her out of the club. She was wearing these sexy cut off jean shorts and a small white tank top. So fucking sexy. Back to my room she attacked me and we did it in every postition which way with no mention of any see word. A scene straight from the creampie Thais series is the best way for me to explain our session absent the video camara. Sent her home with 3,000 Baht just a few minutes ago.
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Finally, enjoy the one snap shot I got of her as I was walking her to the taxi and 3 more from her line.I enjoyed reading the report, Bkkdog. It brings back many fond memories of my own BKK adventures. I have never been to Enter. It gets mixed reviews, but I will give it a look see next time I am in Nana.
P.S. I liked your snapshot of the girl a lot more than her Line photos. Glad you had a great time although I am not surprised in the least.
I enjoyed reading the report, Bkkdog. It brings back many fond memories of my own BKK adventures. I have never been to Enter. It gets mixed reviews, but I will give it a look see next time I am in Nana.
P.S. I liked your snapshot of the girl a lot more than her Line photos. Glad you had a great time although I am not surprised in the least.Funny, I was just getting ready to post that I liked the Line photos far more than the real life photos.
I agree about getting so tough.
Not sure that Mango really had any memorable real beauties, however I do agree it declined in talent. Cherry had a great body but face was still a bit limited (at best a 7 for the face). Cat had a cute face but was short and a little pudgy (body miles behind Cherry) and not a pornstar at all. I am not forgetful. I have pics from doing takeout with Cherry, so I can see her real looks. I look back at pics over the years, and I realize I got more picky since my beauties from yesteryear were not really as stunning as I originally thought sometimes. I need to look at the old pics and see if I still find them stunning now. Most of us started from a low baseline of expectations. Like kids in the candy shop.I actually liked Cherry's face. The original Ann was good looking as well and just as dirty as can be. Mook was a looker. One thing, there were a lot of gals without babies and they were pretty much all stellar performers. Remember my first session in Mango the week it opened. Was with Bo on her second day. Nestle told her to show me a really good time as I had been a Tulip regular. Don't think I have ever had an intense an oily session. Bo was wet wild and amazing. Almost rabid. Left after 90 minutes with my knees shaking. In fact, I left most oily sessions in those days in a daze with my knees shaking. The gals saw to it.
But yes, I agree, as we age our taste becomes a bit more refined might I say.
Member #4591
10-29-17, 05:43
Funny, I was just getting ready to post that I liked the Line photos far more than the real life photos.My snapshot was after 3 hours of her drinking multiple lady drinks and two shots in my room so I'm not surprised. She was hammered and I am surprised it wasn't a disaster as is mostly when the girls get too drunk. She really looks better in real life than her Line photos and the snapshot. Her skin looks whiter in real life, the cut off shorts with the belly ring, cute braces, a beautiful round ass, and her real tits. She's not really thin, but far from fat or even chubby. She was wearing a sexy black bikini in the bar. She has that university student type of body I like. She also keeps herself very well. Unlike most Thai girls, she does not have an ounce of hair on her legs with beautiful small feet. What kills me sometimes is when I see a beautiful Thai girl such as Baifern from The Lord but she has ugly feet with that strange shape some Thais have and hair on her legs.
She's texting me now with I love you. Of course she loves me because I took care of her with multiple ladydrinks and a fair price for 2 pops. 3,200 bar bill, 800 tip for Moma, 1000 BF, and 3,000 Baht 3 hours. Three days in the business and not jaded yet. She will learn soon. She's also telling me that she has been broken up from her Thai boyfriend, a different story from last night where they were still together. You've got to love these little darlings and how they try to tell their little white lies to get what they want. It's all in good fun if you play along. It's when these punters fall in love with these girls that it can get dangerous for some guys.
What kills me sometimes is when I see a beautiful Thai girl such as Baifern from The Lord but she has ugly feet with that strange shape some Thais have and hair on her legs.Ah, the old "tau moo baan. " Village feet or as the former owner of Cactus Bar used to call them, paddy feet.
A night out at Nana Plaza.
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I never made it back to Billboard as I was accosted by the door girls from. "Enter". This was my first time here and the bar is not popular yet but it has some good talent. My favourite type of girl was there. Completely forgot her name now so no number or name is available, only some photos LOL. Cute little 20 year old with natural big breasts, white skin, and an ass to die for. I spent the next two hours drinking with her and ran up a 3,200 baht LD and beer bill combined. Great fun with this little cute. Bar fine was 1,000 Baht. By the time we got around to leaving she was smashed drunk. A little difficult getting her out of the club. She was wearing these sexy cut off jean shorts and a small white tank top. So fucking sexy. Back to my room she attacked me and we did it in every postition which way with no mention of any see word. A scene straight from the creampie Thais series is the best way for me to explain our session absent the video camara. Sent her home with 3,000 Baht just a few minutes ago.
-snip-Excellent. That is similar to my experiences with the 2-3 Enter girls I have taken (perhaps minus some of that expenditure. But I am not so into drinking for me or for the girl). If you are looking for the top tier go-go bar lookers, probably don't bother. But if you are looking for fun, willing and ready, often above average, sometimes even way above average looking go-go girls, Enter is worth checking out as you pass by. The better than usual (these days) attitude of the girls in the room reminds me a little of the old DC-10 go-go bar before it went all Ladyboy. Bear in mind the line up can swing to a very low extreme if you happen to pass by at the wrong moment, hour or night. But other times it can be quite rewarding imo.
Hi all,
About five of us are going to Asia for the first time (some first time leaving the US) and have been doing a lot of research. The one thing we're not sure about is pricing. We are inexperienced and have saved a bit so are trying to messing up the local economy by over paying (too much. I'm sure we'll get scammed at least once).
I've found some prices for BJ / HJ bars. I think we'll start here as it seems pretty organized and simple and we have no idea what we're doing.
These should be 500 for HJ and 1000 baht for BJ.
-Toy Bar.
-Wood Bar.
-Magic Table.Toy Bar and Magic Table are not really BJ bars I think but agogo's. I don't know what the prices are there.
The Wood Bar is indeed a BJ bar. I don't know if you can get a HJ there (or at any other BJ bar for that matter) but if you can then 500 should be about right.
For a BJ they have a two tier system. Last time I went there I believe it was 1000 baht for the (relatively!) better looking (or more skilled?) girls and 700 or 800 for the less attractive ones. A tip is not mandatory but very much appreciated (200-300 baht for a good BJ will do).
Other well known BJ bars like L-olitas or Kasalong have a one tier system: 800 baht (excluding tip).
For a more up market place with better looking girls I can highly recommend Bitstyle (google Bitstyle Bangkok). A BJ there is 1400 baht (excluding tip).
If we go to any of the bars / strip clubs on Soi Cowboy and want FS then the breakout is:
LD: 150.
Barfine: 500 - 1000.
FS: 2,000 for ST.
Quick question here: At a stripclub / gogo bar if we just want a BJ do they have rooms or do we have to leave the spot?
When we head to the islands is it easy to tell which massage places are FS?
We are heading there in Dec so it'll be awhile but I'll do a full report.LDs in the agogo's will be closer to 200 than 150 in most bars these days.
BFs can be as high as 1500 or even 2000 (for coyote girls for example), especially when the night is still young.
2000 might still be possible for a ST but most girls in Soi Cowboy will quote you at least 2500 or 3000.
Usually the bars will not scam you with the LD or BF prices. But the girls will try to get as many LDs as they can and quote you higher prices for a ST once they have found out that you are newbies (and they will smell that from a mile away LOL, there's no way you can hide that).
Some bars have a room but why would you want just a BJ from a (pretty) gogo girl? Seems like a waste of money to me because it's a very expensive BJ when you include the LDs and BF.
Take her to your hotel or a nearby ST hotel (the girls know where they are) and fuck her brains out LOL.
If we go to any of the bars / strip clubs on Soi Cowboy and want FS then the breakout is:
LD: 150.
Barfine: 500 - 1000.
FS: 2,000 for ST.
Quick question here: At a stripclub / gogo bar if we just want a BJ do they have rooms or do we have to leave the spot?
Lady Drink prices vary. I can't tell you for all bars. However Crazy House 170 Baht, Suzie Wong 200 Baht, Shark over 200 Baht maybe 220? And may depend if girl is gogo or Coyote.
Barfine is usually 700 Baht possible 1500 for Coyotes or maybe 2000 for Coyotes in some places. In some bars like the "Arab's" bars, girls are not barfinable for sex activities officially.
I see many of my answers are similar to Mogwai, so that that as meaning we probably gave realistic answers.
In any place BFing is not a guarantee the girl will fuck you. You have to get her agreement first. She might be on a period.
While it is possible to get ST for 2000 Baht, these will probably be low quality girls that struggle to get customers. 2500 Baht will get a much higher proportion of girls. Some girls may insist on 3000 Baht depending on mood, whether they really want the customer, or just holding a very high opinion of themselves. Some girls that want 3000 maybe very pretty looking but performance can be crap. There is no real correlation between price and performance in a good way or a bad way. However price can be correlated with demand and with girl wanting to believe she is the Mercedes Benz Status level. LOL You will hear plenty of girls asking for 3000 Baht at the start. They may well go for less since many are certainly not worth it. Some would say that no girl is worth 3 K for ST. I would say a very small percentage of super hot good looking girls are worth it only because they can get that price so quickly and easily. I. e. They have the advantage of demand for them.
Occasionally girls are pretty enough to hook a customer very quickly even if in the highest price bracket. One pretty girl in Nana asked me for as much as 4000 Baht ST. I decided she probably was not worth it. LOL Could not even see if her tits were good.
I actually liked Cherry's face. The original Ann was good looking as well and just as dirty as can be. Mook was a looker. One thing, there were a lot of gals without babies and they were pretty much all stellar performers. Remember my first session in Mango the week it opened. Was with Bo on her second day. Perhaps I did not get to Mango soon enough to experience the original best lookers. I recall several visits selecting no one, but best girls could have been busy. When Cat first arrived, I thought she was cuter for face than rest of the line up by the length of the street.
Cherry was pleasant looking for the face. Very Issan looking. Certainly acceptable for me, given such a good body. My girlfriend at the time was significantly prettier, but not as good on the bed.
Perhaps I did not get to Mango soon enough to experience the original best lookers. I recall several visits selecting no one, but best girls could have been busy. When Cat first arrived, I thought she was cuter for face than rest of the line up by the length of the street.
Cherry was pleasant looking for the face. Very Issan looking. Certainly acceptable for me, given such a good body. My girlfriend at the time was significantly prettier, but not as good on the bed.After Cherry had a little work done on her face, she looked better.
Loilitas has a second tier 800 BJ 1200 FS for some of the girls. On LD's make sure they don't order a double which is 330 ish. Generally speaking I won't risk 3000 baht on a gogo girl so I'll laugh at that and usually they quickly drop to 2000. To me gogo girls are too hit and miss to be paying big money too. You can always tip more.
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