Bangkok Reports

[Mr Jetsetter]

As it turns out, the entire time I will be in Bangkok (my first trip) coincides with the cremation rites for the princess November 14-19. I read on another board that all of the go-go bars will be closed during this time and activities extremely curtailed at most other bars. I am also wondering if MPs will be open and functioning on a normal basis during this period, as I was really looking forward to visiting some soapies and oilies.

Any info from people in the know about what to expect during this period would be greatly appreciated. I am thinking I might blow off Bangkok completely and spend an extra week in the PI.

[Macho Dik]

Agreed ML, and as many others here are thinking, so lets put it another way :

Maybe a senior member should know how to RTFF !!!!!

Macho D, just how much 'help' do you think you really need? If you cant get laid in BKK then one would tend to think - you may have serious issues with the 'chicken' thing. We sincerely hope you manage to work it out.

Cheers, FF


To both,

Being with so many posting does not make a person to be as perfect as it expected. I understand that it is usually the feedback from a handful person for any sudden reqest for infor to "RTFF" but I can still see majority of our brothers to give their most helping hand to either newbies or seniors in this forum. well this should be the main spirit of this forum. I myself did encounters a lot of questions being by some members, but I make it a point that if I can not help them, I just shut my mouth and if I can help them I will just help them. well, it is also very usual for some member here to keep judging or telling something to situationm like this but if it happen to them which I mean if it comesw to a time whereein not enough time to do the searching then tendency you guys will do the same. so in short....it is either you fuck off your big mouth or just shares ideas....as simple as that.

Nothing personal and nothing specific. please don't be offended.

Cheers,

MD

[Marstop]

On my previous visits to Thailand the girls seemed cold and full of shit. Basically. But after this trip I don’t know anymore. I mean but they are hookers. I don’t have much contact with Hi-SO Thais. Now as for Filipinas I know them on all levels from damn-near millionaires to blow row hookers in Angeles. I know Filipinas in Dubai/Japan/PI… from hookers to professional secretaries/real-estate monguls and most of the time they are really sweet. Will bend over backwards to help you and their hearts can be broken easy mayne.

I think Filipinas are more girlfriend/wifey material just my opinion.Hey DW,

I will throw in my two cents here. My Filipina experience is two long time GFs in HK. They are both housekeepers. Not sure if they love all gweilos or just yours truly. Both are very adventuresome and affectionate, expecting nothing but my attention and friendship. Frankly my experience in BKK is with P4P only. Some great, some not so great. The great ones are the 32+ women I meet online, the really good are girls I meet at hawker stands getting a bite, the average ones are the bargirls. This is just one man's experience.

BTW, I will be in BKK Nov 7-12 if you are there, lets hook up for a drink and some note comparing. Best regards.

[M P Lurker]

....it is either you fuck off your big mouth or just shares ideas....as simple as that.

I gave you a valuable Map since your question was very general rather than specific and good advice that was relatively polite compared to your reply.

[Fun Dog]

i have been off the radar due to being very busy with new "giks" picked up from rca slim/flix where they are non p4p.

the quality of girls there remain high with lots of good potential and very friendly indeed. it will help if you speak some basic basic thai.

was off from the giks but needed some basic relief with no work being done on my part and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) jump to mind. had kae whom is very good and right ample size breast (for those of you whom enjoys sucking at well rounded size tits and right size nipples). tipped her extra for that extra hard work.

have been visiting piano and sherbet a few weekends with clients, quality of girls remain high but have to work hard ie a few visits before they go home with you.

as for macho dik -

do note the other seniors were just taking the mickey and having a poke at your seniority and not being able to score in bangkok. it's call humuor and do chill out. it is a known fact that los is indeed paradise with all levels/type of fun available. punting instinct usually do allow one to quickly pick up local info and the fun of punting is the chase where one does not know what you will get for your money until you hit the room.

it is quite common across south east asia where punting is circa usd30 to usd150 on average across most countries for st/lt. i am not sure as to taipei (never been there before) where you seemed to be based but from kl to jakarta to ho chi minh to singapore to bangkok, the rates are easily non-rip off if you actually do some basic research.

the senior guys are good fun if you have previously read their banter in the thai forum. again like you said no offence and nothing personal. i have read some of your report and you seem generally cordial apart from some "f" language, so i am guessing you are slightly pissed but dont worry it's just some fun.

by the way you have seen the other advices coming thru re st and lt prices, do visit nana entertainment plaza tonight which is not far from your hotel where you will have lots of choices or soi cowboy (both places are known to taxi drivers or your hotel concierge will be able to direct you) where st is circa thb1000 to thb1500 and lt between thb2500 to thb4000 depending on your negotiating skills and depending on how much the girl likes you.

bangkok is a lot of fun and take it easy and go walk around and be adventurous. i am a loner and usually go punting alone and bangkok is relatively safe (common sense applies and not those walk up the 2nd floor bars in patpong).

cheers

fd

[Retired Army]

As it turns out, the entire time I will be in Bangkok (my first trip) coincides with the cremation rites for the princess November 14-19. I read on another board that all of the go-go bars will be closed during this time and activities extremely curtailed at most other bars. I am also wondering if MPs will be open and functioning on a normal basis during this period, as I was really looking forward to visiting some soapies and oilies.

Any info from people in the know about what to expect during this period would be greatly appreciated. I am thinking I might blow off Bangkok completely and spend an extra week in the PI.

Even if the bars are closed there will be girls available.

[Tesla Coil]

Guys, I am a bit of a newbie on the forum, but have mongered around the world for quite some time.

I prefer quality to qty. So far my stomping grounds are South China.

I will be in Bangkok for a night or two next weekend.

I am looking to bring some company home (quality), for an all night pow wow.

Where should I stay? And Where should I walk about?

I am ok with a few hundred bucks on a hotel. I have to have internet or I might die of withdrawal. LOL.

Bangkok vs Patya? and how will that impact getting to the airport the following day?

Any suggestions of how to approach this layover?

Regards,

Tesla

[Run Mann]

i am more into freelancers, but your "little brother" may appreciate to pay a visit for instance at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, a blow job bar in sukhumvit soi 8 for an immediate release.
http://www.lolitasbangkok.com/
700 baht for a bbbj+cim. the girls are not the prettiest in town, but they know their job for sure!
you're right about their beauty because i have never seen any girl in [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) whose appearance equaled the pictures on their website, which is tough to navigate with those annoying pop-up ads. however not all the girls are great performers but they do try to satisfy and is easily one of the better places in town for an almost guaranteed good time at a very reasonable price.

http://www.lolitashuahin.com/

[Macho Dik]

I gave you a valuable Map since your question was very general rather than specific and good advice that was relatively polite compared to your reply.


Sorry, my reply is not intended for you but for the other guy that just do a 2nd emotion. you did give me a very nice and complete guidelines and I have gained for that. sorry for giving you a misunderstanding.

Best regards,


MD

[Bill001]

Dear fellow mongers,

I will be in Thailand from 22nd Nov. 3rd December; heard about the closure of all mongering places from 14th Nov to 19th November. Will places reopen by the time I get there?

Secondly, is the Ambassador hotel GF?

Last but not the least, if anyone is up for mongering, a few drinks or has any Russian contacts, please PM Me.

Thanks

[Opebo]

...I am thinking I might blow off Bangkok completely and spend an extra week in the PI.

This is a good idea, though another would be to go ahead and keep your Bangkok flight and just transfer onward to Phnom Penh. If you haven't been there it is still somewhat fun, though of course a shadow of its former self.

But definitely don't waste your time in Thailand during that period - if they have the nerve to close our fun we should boycott the place.

[Tesla Coil]

As a follower for a year or so, I have contributed what I know about my stomping grounds in South China.

I have a 1-2 day layover in Bangkok and need some suggestions.

After plowing through the forums, and other sites, I still don't know what to do, and I am looking for advice.

Since I am only there for a few days, $ isn't the problem, but no-one wants to be a Chump.

I have learned on my travels usually from experience in China where the "quality vs quantity" places are.. I would rather spend a Hund Bucks on a good looking chick that will take care of all my needs and pamper me a bit vs, finding the perfect bargain which can be fun, but more of an adventure and usually full of disappointments on chasing forum posts or getting bad directions/maps...lol.

I am looking for a Good Hotel (150USD or less with Internet in the room) that is "company friendly".

A threesome or some back door action would be nice, but not required.. I would prefer an all-night party, but based on some of the posts it seems that long-stay isn't very promising? And I can say from experience it blows if they are awful.. its like buying a lemon of a car.

So should I stay near Patpong, or Nana? based on the reports leaning towards Nana?

What hotels, and any recommendations to find the services I seek would be greatly appreciated..

Regards

TC

[Hummer Bird]

as a follower for a year or so, i have contributed what i know about my stomping grounds in south china.

i have a 1-2 day layover in bangkok and need some suggestions.

after plowing through the forums, and other sites, i still don't know what to do, and i am looking for advice.

since i am only there for a few days, $ isn't the problem, but no-one wants to be a chump.

i have learned on my travels usually from experience in china where the "quality vs quantity" places are.. i would rather spend a hund bucks on a good looking chick that will take care of all my needs and pamper me a bit vs, finding the perfect bargain which can be fun, but more of an adventure and usually full of disappointments on chasing forum posts or getting bad directions/maps...lol.

i am looking for a good hotel (150usd or less with internet in the room) that is "company friendly".

a threesome or some back door action would be nice, but not required.. i would prefer an all-night party, but based on some of the posts it seems that long-stay isn't very promising? and i can say from experience it blows if they are awful.. its like buying a lemon of a car.

so should i stay near patpong, or nana? based on the reports leaning towards nana?

what hotels, and any recommendations to find the services i seek would be greatly appreciated..

regards

tc

here is my suggestion after about six months of se mongering.

hotel- try the landmark, a 5 star rockin hotel. anything downtown, even the grace or nearby should do just fine, and keep you near the event horizon. i never use such grand accomodation, but up2u.

pussy- for quality where cost is not an factor, i would suggest the rainbow 4 in nana entertainment plaza. you can chill for a while and really get a good look at the girls motor. plus these girls are pretty damm hot, and you will not see most any of these babes standing in the nana parking lot! pick a number, pay 600b for barfine, and expect to pay 4000 for overnight. although i have got these girls for 3000, ymmv. mok and modang are great.
most of the rainbow 4 girls will not do anal, try the european chicks up at the novotel disco/siam sq area for that, or beergarten (noe's anal is great).
for an early morning blast try [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a stunning blow job, and maybe the hell/eden club for pornstar action w/2 girls. great service, but not the stunner face you may need.
just don't worry! speak what you want, and if the girl freaks move on.
cheers
hb

[Retired Army]

As a follower for a year or so, I have contributed what I know about my stomping grounds in South China.

I have a 1-2 day layover in Bangkok and need some suggestions.

After plowing through the forums, and other sites, I still don't know what to do, and I am looking for advice.

Since I am only there for a few days, $ isn't the problem, but no-one wants to be a Chump.

I have learned on my travels usually from experience in China where the "quality vs quantity" places are.. I would rather spend a Hund Bucks on a good looking chick that will take care of all my needs and pamper me a bit vs, finding the perfect bargain which can be fun, but more of an adventure and usually full of disappointments on chasing forum posts or getting bad directions/maps...lol.

I am looking for a Good Hotel (150USD or less with Internet in the room) that is "company friendly".

A threesome or some back door action would be nice, but not required.. I would prefer an all-night party, but based on some of the posts it seems that long-stay isn't very promising? And I can say from experience it blows if they are awful.. its like buying a lemon of a car.

So should I stay near Patpong, or Nana? based on the reports leaning towards Nana?

What hotels, and any recommendations to find the services I seek would be greatly appreciated..

Regards

TC

With your budget I would recommend the J.W. Marriott on Sukhumvit,next to Nana Plaza and Bangkok Gold Escort Agency.

[Rikusa]

here is my suggestion after about six months of se mongering.

hotel- try the landmark, a 5 star rockin hotel. anything downtown, even the grace or nearby should do just fine, and keep you near the event horizon. i never use such grand accomodation, but up2u.

pussy- for quality where cost is not an factor, i would suggest the rainbow 4 in nana entertainment plaza. you can chill for a while and really get a good look at the girls motor. plus these girls are pretty damm hot, and you will not see most any of these babes standing in the nana parking lot! pick a number, pay 600b for barfine, and expect to pay 4000 for overnight. although i have got these girls for 3000, ymmv. mok and modang are great.
most of the rainbow 4 girls will not do anal, try the european chicks up at the novotel disco/siam sq area for that, or beergarten (noe's anal is great).
for an early morning blast try [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a stunning blow job, and maybe the hell/eden club for pornstar action w/2 girls. great service, but not the stunner face you may need.
just don't worry! speak what you want, and if the girl freaks move on.
cheers
hb

spot on, i am staying for 30 days could you plan the perfect stay for me as well!!

great post

[Tesla Coil]

With your budget I would recommend the J.W. Marriott on Sukhumvit,next to Nana Plaza and Bangkok Gold Escort Agency.RA and HB thanks for the advice.

Out of curiosity is the JW "friendly to company" and is it worth the $ for the high end route. Hey I don't mind it if its worth it?

HB Beergarten is in Patpong though right? Could you go into a little more detail with regards to the Hell/Eden club? PSE's have never lived up to my expectations. But thats in the U.S. lol.. where things rarely do.

[Normad2020]

sir mick, no55 (nikko) is a great performer. if her boobs were silicone assisted then the doctor who performed the operations did a very good job. i did not see any surgical markings and they felt soft and subtle when i was squeezing and sucking them....hehehehe.

cheers
normad2020





thanks heaps for returning the favour with a nice report, as i have been intending to try no.55. she seemed to meet my spec in the picture. do you mind if i ask were her boobs silicone assisted or natural?

the thought of being raped like that! :d


strangely, some girls at thermae are looking for someone special or at least polite. ;)
reminded me of my first visit to thermae over 15 years ago.
i was keen on two pretty girls, and was difficult to decide which. they worked in a silom clothing shop by day and were trying to get togther some funds to go back to phitsanulok.
i chose the non-smoker in the end (and turned out to be a good choice, wild in bed girl, except difficult for me to understand properly her thai with english pronouns ("i" and "you") thrown in as i had only been learning thai for under 1 year and she was fast).
the funny part was that her friend kept rejecting all other suitors (the male talent wasn't great) while we waited patiently for her to get someone lined up. this was frustrating as i was hot to go with my choice.
later my mate advised me that i was a fool not to have taken both of them. but i was too naive to work out if i should have tried it.
next night was a replay. i took same girl and waited ages while her friend rejected lots of guys. can't even remember now if she ever made a choice but she was pretty and got plenty of approaches.
the 3rd day was a dissappointment, as when i phoned them, they told me sorry they were heading back to phitsanulok.

i will never forget this girl with very wide c cups who loved posting for pics (not nude) and sat like a bird on the western toilet, crouching with feet on top of the toilet seat.

[Normad2020]

Day 2 (17 Oct, Friday);

After our respective ladies have left us, we proceeded to have breakfast (compliment of the hotel), and planned our day activities. The groom insisted on visiting the Grand Palace so we booked a tour with the hotel based travel agency. Had a lovely morning touring the Grand Palace and saw the beautiful "Emerald Buddha" made of jade. Returned to the hotel at around 1pm. Showered and went for lunch at MBK International Food Court.

After lunch, we were horny for actions. Lead by yours truly, we took the BTS from MBK (changeover at Siam) and proceeded to Thonglo Station. Got off and proceeded to Tulip.

Entered the premise and requested the lady at the reception to view the ladies (downstairs). Went downstairs and each selected one. I chose a small cute lady named Nana (.....just like the BTS station :-)) because she gave me the sweetest smile.

Went upstairs to the room and both of us stripped. She had a nice body with a very round (silicone assisted) pair of boobs. Showered and during shower she gave me a nice and slow BBBJ followed by a very thorough cleaning in all areas including my arse-hole. She did the same to herself.

Proceed to the bed and she started with a nice oil body-to-body massage interrupted by very slow BBBJ. Could not stand it any longer and asked her to cap me and proceeded to f**k her missionary, cowgirl, scissor and doggie (both holes) and exploded after sometime. Her statistics are 5'2", 24yo, 34C (silicone assisted). Showered and paid for her service and went downstairs to join my friends.

Went back to the hotel to rest and agreed to meet at 7pm at the lobby. My lady friend (Jay) from the previous evening called me from the lobby at around 6.10pm and I went down to escort her to my room. She had carried with her a change of clothing and several textbooks. Asked her to rest and shower and told her that I will bring her out for dinner with my friends at 8.30pm after my friends have chosen their companion for the night.

At the lobby (6.30pm as I had to call the rooms), the groom again wanted to get 2 ladies for the night and so I suggested we go to Eden. On the way I briefed them on what to expect (as per the information from ISG). Arrived there and the groom and another friend chose 2 ladies each and as advised from ISG, I told them to choose 1 lady and let the lady choose her partner.

(....The other friend did not choose and when I inquired apparently Jay's sister named Joy was already in his room waiting for him....hahahaha. BTW both sisters were surprised to see each other at the lobby when we picked them up. They smiled at each other and hugged....)

With their ladies of the night intake, we went back to the hotel and pick up Jay & Joy for dinner. After a round of introduction, Joy suggested we proceed to "Gallery 11" (opposite Ambassador Hotel near to Sabai Sabai Massage) for dinner. Her recommendation turned out to be very good and we all enjoyed a great Thai dinner.

After dinner, we decided to walk to Soi Cowboy for some entertainment. Dropped by the "Old Dutch" pub at the corner of Soi Cowboy for some nice "Guinness" and "Kilkenny" draft. After some drinks and soccer, went to "Rawhide" for some great "pole-dancing" for which Jay was intrigued as it was the first time she had attended such a show and kept asking Joy for clarification. Hopped over to "DollHouse" but the show was not as good as Rawhide. Left Soi Cowboi at around 12.30am and went back to the hotel for some great love-making.

Cheers
normad2020.

[M P Lurker]

Sir Mick, No55 (Nikko) is a great performer. If her boobs were silicone assisted then the doctor who performed the operations did a very good job. I did not see any surgical markings and they felt soft and subtle when I was squeezing and sucking them....hehehehe.

Cheers
normad2020
Oh shit, I can just imagine Niko being inundated with bookings now!

[Fifty Fifty]

To both,

.........so in short....it is either you fuck off your big mouth or just shares ideas....as simple as that.

Nothing personal and nothing specific. please don't be offended.

Cheers,

MD

OK MD - Whats with the full-on abuse then the ''please don't be offended'' BS ???

The ''shares ideas'' I presume would be the Forum, therefore I do exactly that.

I and most other members use the forum to 'shares ideas' by writing half-decent posts containing reasonable information about experiences and lessons learned.

Therefore, as your request was somewhat general, I suggested that in order to find your answers you RTFF like the rest of us do!!

As for the 'fish in barrel'' jibes - that was not me, but nevertheless they are both funny and true.

Now if we all took your advice and 'fuck off your big mouth' then there would be no Forum - take it or leave it.

Cheers, FF

[Retired Army]

RA and HB thanks for the advice.

Out of curiosity is the JW "friendly to company" and is it worth the $ for the high end route. Hey I don't mind it if its worth it?

HB Beergarten is in Patpong though right? Could you go into a little more detail with regards to the Hell/Eden club? PSE's have never lived up to my expectations. But thats in the U.S. lol.. where things rarely do.


You could bring an elephant off the street into the JW and no one would raise an eyebrow. The JW Marriott is perfectly located right on the edge of the entertainment zone. The Landmark is also an excellent choice, but the Marriott is easier to book over the internet.

The Biergarten is on Sukhumbit Soi 7. The JW Marriott is Soi 2 and the Landmark is between Soi 4 and soi 6.

However, if you are looking for quality, you ain't going to find it on Soi 7. Try Bangkok Gold.

No experience with the Hell Club so I can't comment. I've been to Eden a couple of times and it's just not my thing. In my opinion the place smells like dirty assholes. I would rather go to Spaso's in the Hayatt or Angel's Disco in the bottom of the Nana Hotel.

[Retired Army]

Therefore, as your request was somewhat general, I suggested that in order to find your answers you RTFF like the rest of us do!!




It's Ok to ask questions, just don't ask stupid ones, i.e.: are there girls in Bankgkok and can I get laid.

[M P Lurker]

Could you go into a little more detail with regards to the Hell/Eden club? PSE's have never lived up to my expectations. But thats in the U.S. lol.. where things rarely do.
You want to look at the top right corner of this thread for "Search This Thread". Click and type in Eden and perform the search.

Do the same for Tulip under Bangkok Massage Parlours thread.

Both these places are known to offer PSE. The US would not be comparable at all. I don't even bother when in the US.

This Map shows both places plus Biergarten. "HB"????.

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.733132,100.565758&spn=0.029057,0.039697&z=15

[Bounce Around]

What hotels, and any recommendations to find the services I seek would be greatly appreciated.

TCJust downloaded and watched a very good print of the movie. Ok flick, nothing special, but masochistic if you are pining for BKK like I am. It features the Caribbean Dance club in the movie, so I imagine they will be seeing an increase of farangs there I wonder which caribbean girl nick cage took? : p

Tesla, though soi33 hasn't been mentioned much here as off late, if you are in BKK for the first time and only for a short time I would heartily suggest Livingstones Lodge on Soi 33; the bars there also tend to have a good selection of girls (though I have never tried) and I believe The Office had the most reasonable barfine. Also highend soapys which are on Micks guide (you'll have to do a search in the massage parlor thread) are also a good option for good talent. The golden rule is if you treat the girl right she will offer a gfe. The proprietor of the lodge can also help you in your search for good venues if you ask nicely. And maybe if you pay for his drinks he'll take you to a high end dance club, but beware, he is a big german and can hold his liquor!

I should disclaim, I had stayed at livingstones my first time in BKK and found the experience overall very nice. Though I have never pulled from Soi 33 bars. It has been said that it caters primarily to specific ethinicity of mongers, and I did notice not getting much attention from the girls when I walked up or down the soi (as I am brown skinned, possibly, also I was much younger than the average monger I noticed on the street, so go figure). Oh, wait, I did pull a very nice new girl from Livingstones sports bar, and she was very gfe; having dinner one night at the lodge I also noticed a rather senior monger take 3 very nice looking (one of them was a definite stunner) sports bar girls up to his room. I don't know if he emerged the next morning.

Point being: you can have a lot of fun there if you don't mind paying a premium, though by saving on the price of a JW room vs. The cost of a livingstones room you are able to cover the higher bar fine, if you are strict bean counter.

Normad. You lucky bastard! Interesting how you went from 'fucking' to 'love-making' in the span of one post.

[Giotto]

...
Tesla, though soi33 hasn't been mentioned much here as off late, if you are in BKK for the first time and only for a short time I would heartily suggest Livingstones Lodge on Soi 33; the bars there also tend to have a good selection of girls (though I have never tried) and I believe The Office had the most reasonable barfine. Also highend soapys which are on Micks guide (you'll have to do a search in the massage parlor thread) are also a good option for good talent. The golden rule is if you treat the girl right she will offer a gfe. The proprietor of the lodge can also help you in your search for good venues if you ask nicely.
...
Bounce Around,

Yep, and last but not least to be mentioned ... this proprietor of Livingstone's Lodge is Terry Terrier --- aehhh no, Old Thai Hand ... no, that was the professor ... Mick, the Licker ???

Damned, I am completely mixed up ... who the hell was it ?


Giotto

PS: "...nicely ask ..."? Don't, this guy is a BASTARD!

[ThaiLearner]

RA and HB thanks for the advice.

Out of curiosity is the JW "friendly to company" and is it worth the $ for the high end route. Hey I don't mind it if its worth it?

HB Beergarten is in Patpong though right? Could you go into a little more detail with regards to the Hell/Eden club? PSE's have never lived up to my expectations. But thats in the U.S. lol.. where things rarely do.

The beer garden is a Sukhumvit Soi 7 which is not far from Nana which is on soi 4.

Eden club is on soi 7/1 http://www.bkk-gui.de/ede_eng_f.htm just to give you an idea. You get 2 ladies for 90 minutes for 3600bht you choose one and she will choose the other and you can have lots of fun.

Also try soi cowboy near bts station Askoke which is one stop from bts station Nana you can also walk it.

They have a good show in the long gun bar.

[Evil Penivel]

Could you go into a little more detail with regards to the Hell/Eden club? PSE's have never lived up to my expectations. But thats in the U.S. lol.. where things rarely do.

You'll definitely get a PSE at Eden or Hell that will meet or surpass any expectations. Here's the correct link to the Eden Web site, with the current menu and an interactive map: http://www.edenclub-bangkok.com/

Ask for this this lady to be part of your PSE team: Pla (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=787028&postcount=1331)

Here's an account of one of my more memorable experiences with the Eden ladies: Evil and the Angels of Eden (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=503329&postcount=1283) And some general information: Eden 2 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701491&postcount=1197) and Eden 1 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628732&postcount=4012)



HB Beergarten is in Patpong though right?
No, it is on Sukhumvit Soi 7. Some further info:
Update on the Beer Garden (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730907&postcount=1885)

Tunnels of Purgatory (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=401692&highlight=purgatory#post401692)

Evil

[Hummer Bird]

RA and HB thanks for the advice.

Out of curiosity is the JW "friendly to company" and is it worth the $ for the high end route. Hey I don't mind it if its worth it?

HB Beergarten is in Patpong though right? Could you go into a little more detail with regards to the Hell/Eden club? PSE's have never lived up to my expectations. But thats in the U.S. lol.. where things rarely do.

I wish I had a budget like yours!!! The only thing to consider about the Hell/Eden club is that you can do anal w/o turning it into a big deal. I forgot about the Angel disco, the girls there are also pricy, but provides a good WORLD buffet to choose from. Never did Spasso's, but heard great things about it, figure at least $200 for a stunner. Might consider the Pegasus for model types, don't know about the service quality though. The Beergarten is just a cheap place with desparate girls and sometimes some newbies to the business.(Fresh Meat ahh!)
I like it though as it is one of the few places where you can have a drink w/o the hassle of a noisy ***** or blasting music like most of the inane banal style BKK places.
If your dealing with such time constraints I would suggest supplements. Load up on Andriol Testosterone, and have some vitamin V around. This will allow for endless thashing throughout the day, and not drain the vital energies. It is too bad you cannot make it to Pattaya, as the sheer number of working girls is overwhelming. But I am sure all this prep is sure to pay off either way. Please forward my consulting fee asap!
Cheers
HB

[Hummer Bird]

Ok Tesla, one more useful link. Many other places teathered to this one.
http://www.**************.com/pegasus-exclusive-member-club-bangkok/

[Hummer Bird]

insert the following into the previous- private bangkok .
Good Luck
HB

[Bounce Around]

who the hell was it?

GiottoWell, some mystery is good for the soul!

[Tesla Coil]

Eden looks real intriguing.. Evil Penivel has great things to say about the services..

Anyone tried anything really upscale like pegasus? what is the service like..

No one wants a high priced, no talent, good looking lackie... its like Ham no burger, Kool-Aid with no sugar..

TC

[Deep Hammer]

Hi,

I was recently in Bangkok for a few days and I needed to "hammer" a girl, but I wanted something special, I heard already a few comments about "amatafor%star", so I said try her out, I took "amatafor5star", wow man, let me tell you, I have nerver experienced a woman like this one, she is just "amazing", the "she is really something, a great great "fuck", too good in any way, she is the best I ever had in all my life. So to all you guys, I can only recommend you this fantastic girl in bed, you will get some big surprises about the way you feel deep in her and the multiple orgasmus she can have, absolutely toooooooooo horny exciting experience, I will of course take her back on my next trip, of course, she is really "the best in world", really.

Just go and try, you will think of me.

Cheers

[Kenster]

Eden looks real intriguing.. Evil Penivel has great things to say about the services..

Anyone tried anything really upscale like pegasus? what is the service like..

No one wants a high priced, no talent, good looking lackie... its like Ham no burger, Kool-Aid with no sugar..

TCI've read good things about Eden as well. I think I definitely must give it a try on my next trip to BKK.

My experience at Pegasus wasnt all that good. Location wise, pegasus is very easy to spot with big signage from the main road and about 100. 150m from a MRT station.

When you enter, there is 2 options. Going to the fishbowl. There are approx 30. 50 ladies sitting there the past few times I went and I've heard that they are abit on the lower end of the scale.

War-torn if you must and almost everyone has had a child or two.

Go further up by 1 floor and you get more expensive girls, models so they say, and these run from around 2500bht. 4500bht depending on how good she looks.

I find amsterdam has a better choice of higher end girls and I have had some very very good services there but I must say that it is entirely on the perogative of the girl and not so much the place that the service is good or not.

But that aside, I found amsterdam to have a better environment, better rooms and cleaner.

The girl I took in amsterdam, SL56, very very very very good service.

I highly recommend, if that means anything at all, and if anyone else tries her, let me know how it goes.

[Kenster]

Oops.

I think I made a mistake there and read Pegasus as Poseidon.

My mistake.

[Easy2007]

hi,

i was recently in bangkok for a few days and i needed to "hammer" a girl, but i wanted something special, i heard already a few comments about "amatafor%star", so i said try her out, i took "amatafor5star", wow man, let me tell you, i have nerver experienced a woman like this one, she is just "amazing", the "she is really something, a great great "fuck", too good in any way, she is the best i ever had in all my life. so to all you guys, i can only recommend you this fantastic girl in bed, you will get some big surprises about the way you feel deep in her and the multiple orgasmus she can have, absolutely toooooooooo horny exciting experience, i will of course take her back on my next trip, of course, she is really "the best in world", really.

just go and try, you will think of me.

cheersyour first ever post. and it highlights one single person. it causes me to doubt your report, as quite simply;

1/ some farang men are the ones who write the adverts for escorts on many of the "classifieds" pages. they get a cut from the girl of any bookings.

2/ some farang men will do write ups on the girls, in order to get a discount rate for their sex. (tell the girl you will increase her business, show her you doing the write up, she reads it and thinks it will get more business, and then you get the discount).

in order to assist mongers, its far better to see 100 other posts on the site first, giving information and details of many other places, and then start to highlight individuals. people may believe it much easier.

sorry if i am wrong, but there are too many poor sexpats in bangkok who try to scrape a living by attempting to be the "english interface" for some girls and the internet, taking a cut of fee's that the girl gets through the adverts posted by the poor sexpat.

[Retired Army]

Eden looks real intriguing.. Evil Penivel has great things to say about the services..

Anyone tried anything really upscale like pegasus? what is the service like..

No one wants a high priced, no talent, good looking lackie... its like Ham no burger, Kool-Aid with no sugar..

TC


I used to have a membership for the Pegagus Club. Expensive, but worth every Baht. The girls ranged from ordinary to knock out, drop dead beautiful. You get what you pay for.

I don't know what the cost is for non-members.

[Tesla Coil]

I used to have a membership for the Pegagus Club. Expensive, but worth every Baht. The girls ranged from ordinary to knock out, drop dead beautiful. You get what you pay for.

I don't know what the cost is for non-members.So a knock out there, while expensive. Is a knock out in bed?

[Bounce Around]

...I took "amatafor5star", wow man, you will think of me...
Yeah, right, I am thinking of you right now! hey, do me a favor, can you tell the very VIP escort to pick me up at the airport tonight at around 8:00 pm, in her classy car. I'll be willing pay the 18000 thai baht she wants for 24 hours, she doesn't look at all old or past her prime in her pictures... That's such a good deal, i couldn't find anything to beat it on this extensive sex tourism forum. I'll even carry a hammer for you to recognize me by, then i could really 'nail' her, huh? get it??


... anyone tried anything really upscale like pegasus...Now would be the right time to search the appropriate thread for additional answers. No need to flame me, the information is there if you are really interested, and not too hard to find. Possibly also get a membership and exchange PMs with the other members for additional info and support for the forum.

[Tesla Coil]

I used to have a membership for the Pegagus Club. Expensive, but worth every Baht. The girls ranged from ordinary to knock out, drop dead beautiful. You get what you pay for.

I don't know what the cost is for non-members.Do you really get what you pay for? I am all for a stunner.. but with stunning performance? I have found them to be a little naggy and complain too much.

[Bumholes1]

I used to have a membership for the Pegagus Club. Expensive, but worth every Baht. The girls ranged from ordinary to knock out, drop dead beautiful. You get what you pay for.


Absolutely correct - you get what you pay for. At the end of the day it was just another pussy!

[Tesla Coil]

Absolutely correct - you get what you pay for. At the end of the day it was just another pussy!Does this mean that they are as giving as the Eden girls? ie.. play behind the line and switch hit, but at a better looking level?

TC

[Mouse1]

I wanted something special, I heard already a few comments about "amatafor%star", so I said try her out, I took "amatafor5star", wow man, let me tell you, I have nerver experienced a woman like this one, she is just "amazing", the "she is really something, a great great "fuck", too good in any way, she is the best I ever had in all my life. So to all you guys, I can only recommend you this fantastic girl in bed, you will get some big surprises about the way you feel deep in her and the multiple orgasmus she can have, absolutely toooooooooo horny exciting experience, I will of course take her back on my next trip, of course, she is really "the best in world", really.To save you all the bother of looking, she has a very detailed web-page, including the following:

1) A BASIC MEETING FOR 2 HOURS WILL BE 5000 BAHT
IN THIS MEETING IS INCLUDED : BBBJ UNTIL COMPLETION IN MY MOUTH, CIM, COB, COF, 69, HANDJOB, FRENCH DEEP THONGUE KISSING, AND SAFESEX ONLY.

[Flyhere]

I used to have a membership for the Pegagus Club. Expensive, but worth every Baht. The girls ranged from ordinary to knock out, drop dead beautiful. You get what you pay for.

I don't know what the cost is for non-members.
So you think membership is worth it? I am doing a quick calc of the money side vs what I normally spend.

30000thb for 1 year membership, including 9 bottles of whiskey, the girls can drink out of your bottle, ST is 1200THB, any bar-fines?

A night out: About 1500thb in drinks, 1000thb bar-fine, girl + tips 3000thb = 5500thb - 1200 at Pegasus - 1000thb barfine (assuming it's the same) = 3300THB net

So if I go 9 times to Pegasus in a year, the total cost will be the same. And if I go more often, Pegasus is actually less expensive.

Am I correct?

fly

[Retired Army]

So you think membership is worth it? I am doing a quick calc of the money side vs what I normally spend.

30000thb for 1 year membership, including 9 bottles of whiskey, the girls can drink out of your bottle, ST is 1200THB, any bar-fines?

A night out: About 1500thb in drinks, 1000thb bar-fine, girl + tips 3000thb = 5500thb - 1200 at Pegasus - 1000thb barfine (assuming it's the same) = 3300THB net

So if I go 9 times to Pegasus in a year, the total cost will be the same. And if I go more often, Pegasus is actually less expensive.

Am I correct?

fly


I went several times a week just as a place to drink for free and smoke a cigar in peace in a nice surrounding while looking a real "eye candy." I figured it cost me, on average, $75 a month (THB 2,500) which was nothing. Plus I could take friends there and basically we could drink for free. I thought it was the best deal going. Then I met the wife and got a better deal for free.

[M P Lurker]

To save you all the bother of looking, she has a very detailed web-page, including the following:

1) A BASIC MEETING FOR 2 HOURS WILL BE 5000 BAHT
IN THIS MEETING IS INCLUDED : BBBJ UNTIL COMPLETION IN MY MOUTH, CIM, COB, COF, 69, HANDJOB, FRENCH DEEP THONGUE KISSING, AND SAFESEX ONLY.
Looked like a Ham(mer) Fisted advert to me. ;)

[Retired Army]

Absolutely correct - you get what you pay for. At the end of the day it was just another pussy!


Yeah, you are correct. Just as a blow job is a blow job and it doesn't matter if you are getting it from your mother or the 16 year old home coming queen at your highschool. It's all about the packaging and marketing that makes it special and worth the extra money.

[M P Lurker]

ST is 1200THB, any bar-fines?
...
fly
Are you kidding. I would assume 1200 Baht was the BF only.
A Pegasus girl is surely not going to do ST for 1200. That sounds absurd without me knowing anything really.

[Retired Army]

Are you kidding. I would assume 1200 Baht was the BF only.
A Pegasus girl is surely not going to do ST for 1200. That sounds absurd without me knowing anything really.


At the time it was 2,000 for a regular girl and 4,000 for a model, I don't know the current price structure. However, the regular girls were better than the average found in Soi cowboy or Nana.

[Flyhere]

Are you kidding. I would assume 1200 Baht was the BF only.
A Pegasus girl is surely not going to do ST for 1200. That sounds absurd without me knowing anything really.
Well, of course I have no first-hand knowledge, but this is what I picked up, hence the questions to clarify. Don't know what PR stands for, but it's the lowest level, the models run into 5000-6000thb range

Memberships:1 year: 30000 Baht (9 free whiskey bottles + free entry & discounts)

Entrance with 2 drinks: free for member
Lady sit and give you company: 450 Baht for members

PR girls: 1200 Baht for members (don't know what PR is)
Short Time charge: 1500 Baht
Whole Night charge: 3000 Baht

"You can opt for paying the lady charge, 1200 Baht for a PR girl. This will enable her to drink from your own bottle so you don’t pay any extra drinks and also you don’t have to pay the 45 minutes rate. This price is for the whole time she is sitting with you and will save you surely some money."

I think this is the equivalent of the bar-fine.

"If you pay this you can also take her out to wherever you wish, you have to also pay the short time or whole night charge, depending on what you want."

So the revised numbers: About 1500thb in drinks, 1000thb bar-fine, girl + tips 3000thb = 5500thb - 1200 BF at Pegasus - 1500thb ST (does not sound right!) = 2800THB net >>> 11 times to break even

If these figures are correct, then they are not any more expensive than the girls at the Sports Bars around town. That's why I want some validation.

[Retired Army]

Well, of course I have no first-hand knowledge, but this is what I picked up, hence the questions to clarify. Don't know what PR stands for, but it's the lowest level, the models run into 5000-6000thb range

Memberships:1 year: 30000 Baht (9 free whiskey bottles + free entry & discounts)

Entrance with 2 drinks: free for member
Lady sit and give you company: 450 Baht for members

PR girls: 1200 Baht for members (don't know what PR is)
Short Time charge: 1500 Baht
Whole Night charge: 3000 Baht

"You can opt for paying the lady charge, 1200 Baht for a PR girl. This will enable her to drink from your own bottle so you don’t pay any extra drinks and also you don’t have to pay the 45 minutes rate. This price is for the whole time she is sitting with you and will save you surely some money."

I think this is the equivalent of the bar-fine.

"If you pay this you can also take her out to wherever you wish, you have to also pay the short time or whole night charge, depending on what you want."

So the revised numbers: About 1500thb in drinks, 1000thb bar-fine, girl + tips 3000thb = 5500thb - 1200 BF at Pegasus - 1500thb ST (does not sound right!) = 2800THB net >>> 11 times to break even

If these figures are correct, then they are not any more expensive than the girls at the Sports Bars around town. That's why I want some validation.

PR actually stands for Public Relations girls. It's the lowest level.

However, if I remember correctly, and I often don't as a member there was no barfine and no charge for time spent with the girl in the club. Your membership should include X number of bottles and Y number of bar fines.

[Retired Army]

So you think membership is worth it?
fly

If you live in Bangkok full time it's definitely worth the membership.

[Showdown]

Can anyone recommend a good post for newbies that gives a general introduction to the Bangkok and Pattaya scene?

[Evil Penivel]

Here's an excerpt from the long explanation on pricing at Pegasus given on a Bangkok Website. I believe it is the one Mick is citing. Bottom line for non-members, according to the poster, was, "Drinks, lady charge and short time / long time fee will add up easily to at least 10000 Baht, probably more in the region of 12000-15000." (I'm not sure about the rules in linking to that site, but if you do a Google search for "Pegasus Bangkok," it will be the first link to come up. Starts with ww w. private...)

But that post is old. Now there are only two categories of girls at Pegasus, sideliner and model. But not all the ladies are available for barfine. Some will only sit with you. Nothing else is guaranteed for the "companion" girls. That's the way it is at most high-class gentlemen's clubs. You may be able to arrange to meet the girl after she gets off work. You pays yo' money for drinks and the girl's time and you takes yo' chances.

At Pegasus, there is an explicit fee for takeaway that guarantees some of the girls will hop into bed with you. It has to be paid upfront before you leave the club. On top of that, the girl expects a tip for services rendered.

My personal experience of Pegasus is limited, as I was only there once as the guest of Taiwanese associates who paid for everything. That was a few years ago, when there were three categories of girls. I really couldn't see what the fuss was about. The girls to me looked very much the same as the girls you see on Soi 33 or even Nana Plaza. There were some stunners, but you see the occasional stunner just about everywhere. If anything, the attraction seemed to be that they had light complexions, or at least were made up that way.

Some more recent reports from ISG members:
Escort Fan's Report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727110&postcount=1825)

Hoboken Michael's Report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=713143&postcount=1551)

This is the grid from the Bangkok board's report:

Entrance with 2 drinks: 1800 Baht (free for member)
To have a lady sit and give you company: 900 Baht for 45 min. (450 Baht for members)


Sideliner girls:
Sideliner charge: 2200 Baht (1700 baht for members)
Short Time charge: 2000 Baht (2000 Baht for members)
Whole Night charge: 4000 Baht (4000 Baht for members)

Model girls:
Model charge: 3200 Baht (2200 Baht for members)
Short time charge: 3000 Baht (3000 Baht for members)
Long time charge: 6000 Baht (6000 Baht for members)

Memberships are available as follows:

1 year: 30000 Baht (9 free whiskey bottles + free entry & discounts)
2 year: 50000 Baht (15 free whiskey bottles + free entry & discounts)
3 year: 60000 Baht (20 free whiskey bottles + free entry & discounts)
5 year: 100000 Baht (not confirmed how many bottles + free entry & discounts)
lifetime membership: 200000 Baht (not confirmed how many bottles + free entry & discounts)

Explanation:
If you want to have company you pay the 900 Baht for 45 minutes as a non-member. Now you can also opt for paying the lady charge (for example 1700 Baht for a PR girl). This will enable her to drink from your own bottle so yopu don’t pay any extra drinks and also you don’t have to pay the 45 minutes rate. This price is for the whole time she is sitting with you and will save you surely some money. If you pay this you can also take her out to wherever you wish. Now if you want to take her home you have to also pay the short time or whole night charge, depending on what you want. Drinks, lady charge and short time / long time fee will add up easily to at least 10000 Baht, probably more in the region of 12000-15000. A proud price but like I said, you gotta try for yourself to see if its worth it or not as reports are too different to really say how it is.

[M P Lurker]

Here's an excerpt from the long explanation on pricing at Pegasus given on a Bangkok Website. I believe it is the one Mick is citing.
I wasn't citing anything, but good info.

[Evil Penivel]

I wasn't citing anything, but good info.

Sorry, I should have written Flyhere.


I think this is the equivalent of the bar-fine.


It's complicated. There is a fee you pay for the girl to sit with you. If you are a member, she can drink out of your bottle. If you're not a member, you have to buy her drinks. If you want her to provide sexual services, then you pay an additional fee that is a combination barfine and service fee. So as a non-member, to sit with a sideliner would be 1,800B entry + 2,200B "time fee" = 4,000B, plus whatever drinks you buy and then 2,000B S/T or 4,000B L/T. If you're a member, you don't pay the entrance fee, but you still pay for the girl's time, although less than a non-member. So it would be 1,700B for the time fee, then 2,000B S/T or 4,000B L/T. Plus even if you have a bottle behind the bar, you still pay for mixers and ice and that ain't cheap. Even if you are a member, figure on a minimum of 7,000-8,000B to take the girl home and then she's going to expect a tip on top of that.

Evil

[Fast Eddie 48]

Sorry, I should have written Flyhere.

It's complicated. There is a fee you pay for the girl to sit with you. If you are a member, she can drink out of your bottle. If you're not a member, you have to buy her drinks. If you want her to provide sexual services, then you pay an additional fee that is a combination barfine and service fee. So as a non-member, to sit with a sideliner would be 1,800B entry + 2,200B "time fee" = 4,000B, plus whatever drinks you buy and then 2,000B S/T or 4,000B L/T. If you're a member, you don't pay the entrance fee, but you still pay for the girl's time, although less than a non-member. So it would be 1,700B for the time fee, then 2,000B S/T or 4,000B L/T. Plus even if you have a bottle behind the bar, you still pay for mixers and ice and that ain't cheap. Even if you are a member, figure on a minimum of 7,000-8,000B to take the girl home and then she's going to expect a tip on top of that.

EvilEvil,

I think Pegasus is a good place to bring your business customer.

The model girl there is hot.

It is very expensive, mostly japanese and chinese business men.

If you want model quality girl you should go to the Posiedon or Emmanule.

You can just pick the girl without paying for entry fee or membership.

Fast eddie 48

[Daddy07]

...It's complicated. There is a fee you pay for the girl to sit with you. If you are a member, she can drink out of your bottle. If you're not a member, you have to buy her drinks. If you want her to provide sexual services, then you pay an additional fee that is a combination barfine and service fee. So as a non-member, to sit with a sideliner would be 1,800B entry + 2,200B "time fee" = 4,000B, plus whatever drinks you buy and then 2,000B S/T or 4,000B L/T. If you're a member, you don't pay the entrance fee, but you still pay for the girl's time, although less than a non-member. So it would be 1,700B for the time fee, then 2,000B S/T or 4,000B L/T. Plus even if you have a bottle behind the bar, you still pay for mixers and ice and that ain't cheap. Even if you are a member, figure on a minimum of 7,000-8,000B to take the girl home and then she's going to expect a tip on top of that.

Evil

Gee ... those members and guests must feel so special.

10-15K per pop ... must make a guy feel like a prince. :)

[M P Lurker]

Gee ... those members and guests must feel so special.

10-15K per pop ... must make a guy feel like a prince. :)
I bet there are a few sly on the side arrangements going on there!

[Retired Army]

I' don't know what kind of math you guys are using, but I never spent anything like the figures you are quoting at Pegagus.

The most I've ever spent is 6,000 and that included renting a ST room upstairs for 1,500. I was told I could take her to a ST hotel near by, but I couldn't be seen leaving with a girl so I played it safe.

[El Greco]

Gee ... those members and guests must feel so special.

10-15K per pop ... must make a guy feel like a prince. :)

I have been there once a long time ago. My company's manager in BKK had a membership and lots of Chivas bottles.
A very nice upscale place with a common large area and other private large living rooms where mamasan would bring the girls.

I finally took back to my hotel a tall stuner that turned to be a dead corp in the bed although I was young and handsome and in good shape back then. The worst I ever had in my life, that's why I remember the experience. I was fighting to open her legs. She must have been very new to the business.

The deal was for 4.000 Baht then. I am talking about 20 years back when average rate was 300-500 Baht. I finally sent her off very early in order to enjoy my bed alone.

For my next visits I was taking the station manager to Cleopatra's at Patpong where we both had a much better time.

[Canyon]

I went to Pegasus for the first time last year, and I was underwhelmed. The atmoshpere is plush, but in a somewhat gaudy, Las Vegas-like style. I don't remember the exact pricing, but it was something like 7,000 baht for S/T by the time you added up the entrance fee, the drinks, the barfine and the tip to the girl. I went there on a weeknight around 10:00 pm and the place was dead--only about four other guys in the room. The girls were OK looking, but nothing special. I have seen better ones all over Bangkok. I wasn't tempted to take one out, so I can't report on the sexual service. I went there just to see what it is like, but I don't recommend it. If you must go to see what an upscale gentlemen's club is like, just pop in and look around. Don't spend any money. There are better values around town.

If you want an upscale experience, I recommend that you go to Tarawadee. It has a nicer feel, the decor is very attractive, the papasans are polite and helpful and you can eat a nice dinner while you're looking at the girls. The pricing is straightforward. There's no membership fee, no lady drinks and no Farang surcharge. One girl I went with at Tarawadee had a beautiful face, a nice personality and a very sexy body. The charge was only 3,500 baht---about half what it would be at Pegasus, and the girl was much better-looking than anyone I saw at Pegasus. (I did tip her an extra 1,000 baht for the great service.) Some of the model sideliners went up as high as 5,500, but I found that some of the 3,500 baht girls were just as attractive.

Usually when I go to Tarawadee, I'm the only white man in the place, but I've never felt uncomfortable. Everyone was nice to me and I liked the no farang surcharge policy.

[Retired Army]

The atmoshpere is plush, but in a somewhat gaudy, Las Vegas-like style.



That's an understatement. A New Orleans ***** House would be more accurate

[Member #4149]

I went to Pegasus for the first time last year, and I was underwhelmed. The atmoshpere is plush, but in a somewhat gaudy, Las Vegas-like style. I don't remember the exact pricing, but it was something like 7,000 baht for S/T by the time you added up the entrance fee, the drinks, the barfine and the tip to the girl. I went there on a weeknight around 10:00 pm and the place was dead--only about four other guys in the room. The girls were OK looking, but nothing special. I have seen better ones all over Bangkok. I wasn't tempted to take one out, so I can't report on the sexual service. I went there just to see what it is like, but I don't recommend it. If you must go to see what an upscale gentlemen's club is like, just pop in and look around. Don't spend any money. There are better values around town.

If you want an upscale experience, I recommend that you go to Tarawadee. It has a nicer feel, the decor is very attractive, the papasans are polite and helpful and you can eat a nice dinner while you're looking at the girls. The pricing is straightforward. There's no membership fee, no lady drinks and no Farang surcharge. One girl I went with at Tarawadee had a beautiful face, a nice personality and a very sexy body. The charge was only 3,500 baht---about half what it would be at Pegasus, and the girl was much better-looking than anyone I saw at Pegasus. (I did tip her an extra 1,000 baht for the great service.) Some of the model sideliners went up as high as 5,500, but I found that some of the 3,500 baht girls were just as attractive.

Usually when I go to Tarawadee, I'm the only white man in the place, but I've never felt uncomfortable. Everyone was nice to me and I liked the no farang surcharge policy.Utopia is my choice for the best looking girls & best service in BK. Have been may times & all total GFE. Many 7 to 9 out of 10. Cost is similar to Tarawadee.

[Tesla Coil]

guys,

i confirmed my flights. the sheer anticipation is killing me.

i land at the airport around 5 am, and plan on staying in the landmark or jw.

but it looks like most of the places will be closed by the time i get checked in?

any suggestions. since i am only there for a short time, i would like to hit the ground like udonis bolt. (not running, but with superhuman speed) lol.

i am not a fan of sw's and don't want to wait till 1ish for eden when i have 4-5 good hours to kill.

tc

[M P Lurker]

i land at the airport around 5 am, and plan on staying in the landmark or jw.

but it looks like most of the places will be closed by the time i get checked in?

any suggestions. since i am only there for a short time, i would like to hit the ground like udonis bolt. (not running, but with superhuman speed) lol.

i am not a fan of sw's and don't want to wait till 1ish for eden when i have 4-5 good hours to kill.

tc
that would be a cross between adonis and usain bolt???
is that as deadly as a tesla coil? ;) it all sounds very super charged. lol
you are not a fan of sw, (street walkers) i suppose.
i am a fan of sw (suzi wong bar) but hardly relevant.

anyway star of light usually opens at 10am if you needs pipes cleaned out, but cannot guarantee to beauty of the first arrivers.
some bars in nana plaza surrounds like "morning-night" open early (11am perhaps ???). some oilies open earlyish.

i have recently recommended a map that shows some of these and opening times.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.736217,100.567088&spn=0.029056,0.039697&z=15

try ringing annies or tulip to see if they have girls at 10am.

but 5am is not really great for anything other than street walkers.

[Cunning Stunt]

For old times sake, I popped into the Thermae, last night at about 10.30. Used to be that was way too early for this place, but with these days of stricter Bangkok licensing hours, I was curious to know what effect this had on its business. It was strange. There must have been 100+ Freelancers in there but few male customers. Most of the girls were of the older, rougher ‘beer garden’ type but there were a few quite attractive younger girls as well (most of whom, as in the old days, stand at the back of the bar, near the rear stairs). But 90% of the male customers were East Asians, and it appeared that the fresher stock only had eyes for them.

So, has yet another bastion of the Bangkok FL scene, fallen to the ‘Mongol’ hordes and become a Jap/Korean pick up joint?

[Mr_Hoffy]

Guys,

I land at the airport around 5 am, and plan on staying in the Landmark or JW.

TC
I have found that just after sunrise when all the morning traffic starts 99 percent of the girls have left. After sunrise to about noon there is nothing happening. This is when the girls sleep.

If you land a 5 am. Keep in mind it's probably 30 to 45 delay through immigration and baggage pickup. If you land a 5 am you probably won't get to your hotel for early check-in until 6:30 am since the traffic will have picked up. Your hotel might not even have a room open at that time if they are fully booked unless you had already paid for the previous night.

The only reasonable option would have girl you know waiting for you that you knew before from previous trips.

[Tiger 888]

For old times sake, I popped into the Thermae, last night at about 10.30. Used to be that was way too early for this place, but with these days of stricter Bangkok licensing hours, I was curious to know what effect this had on its business. It was strange. There must have been 100+ Freelancers in there but few male customers. Most of the girls were of the older, rougher ‘beer garden’ type but there were a few quite attractive younger girls as well (most of whom, as in the old days, stand at the back of the bar, near the rear stairs). But 90% of the male customers were East Asians, and it appeared that the fresher stock only had eyes for them.

So, has yet another bastion of the Bangkok FL scene, fallen to the ‘Mongol’ hordes and become a Jap/Korean pick up joint?That is not breaking news, yet another proof of the trend. Money rules.

[Member #3428]

But 5AM is not really great for anything other than street walkers.

A mate has the same problem... and from my old knowledge can't U arrange a late night meeting from sabi sabi or rose massage?

[Warbucks]

Alright who killed Old Thai Hand?

[Gwailo]

A mate has the same problem... and from my old knowledge can't U arrange a late night meeting from sabi sabi or rose massage?

Sabai Sabai is a 24 hour establishment as far as I know.

[Gwailo]

guys,

i confirmed my flights. the sheer anticipation is killing me.

i land at the airport around 5 am, and plan on staying in the landmark or jw.

but it looks like most of the places will be closed by the time i get checked in?

any suggestions. since i am only there for a short time, i would like to hit the ground like udonis bolt. (not running, but with superhuman speed) lol.

i am not a fan of sw's and don't want to wait till 1ish for eden when i have 4-5 good hours to kill.

tc

you could try hanging around the nana hotel lobby and catch a girl heading home in the morning. not the best choice but maybe an option.

[DG69]

Just arrived in BKK yesterday and want share my overall impression.
My arrival was 6:50 am comming from London. After a long trip which started in Southampton at 4 am the day before I was just tired and was eager to enter my Hotel room in Davin Soi 4.
At the airport I had a first shock at the money changer. 42 Bhat for an Euro or 50 Bhat for an Pound. Last time when I was there it was about 48 to 50 Bhat to an Euro. So, bad time, maybe I made the wrong choice and had better booked a flight to Brazil.
The Hotel was quite Ok, for 1950 Bhat the night you get a nice furniced modern room with a big flat screen TV and W-Lan. The Hotel is GF, they do not even ask for ID of the girls. Staff is friendly, but I have the impression that there are not much guests in the Hotel. Looks somehow empty.
Later the first day and today the change rate for Euro and Pound became better. It's now about 45,5 Bhat to an Euro.
After a couple of hours sleep I decide to have an oil massage only. Saw last time when I were in BKK at a hair cut saloon some nice looking girls. The did also oil massage upstairs. I thought give them a try and let see if the are also available for more. The massage were quite good for about 450 Bhat the hour. At the end the girl asked if I want have an handjob more wasn't on the menue. I answered no thanks.
After that I went to Beergarden. The girls seems a bit desperate, from chit chat I found out that there are not much business at the moment. Girls there were not the best looking, but I took one who looked OK. She was 23 years old, growed up in Bangkok, has a shop in Prathunam were she sell T-Shirts. Her business is not very good and so she goes Beergarten. Btw. her father is policeman. Well, I asked her if she allow anal. She replyed, yes but didn't do before and I should make slowly. Well, I wonder that all girls make anal always the first time. Sex was good, pussy very tight and anal was also quite good. Price was 1000 Bhat + 200 Bhat tip.
In the night I went to NEP. Just visit one bar there Rainbow 4 which was very good. Pretty girls, not too much customer and girls were very eager to get barfined. Last time when I were there (in March) it was very difficult to get a free place. Had a nice chat with a very sexy Isaan girl. But, decide not to bf her, since I prefer Free Lancer.
So, after I went to Spice Club were I had a very nice evening. Many nice girls there and now open until 4:30 am. I saw there a lot of stunning girls, but there were 2 girls on my table whose permanently tried to get my attention. They were both not bad looking. The one petit about 150 cm high, nice face and good english and her friend who was about 160 cm with very with skin. I danced with them the whole time of my stay there. The rubbed their asses on my dick and tried to make me horny. The only complain I have that I had not enough possibilities to look for the other girls.
At the end I decide to take the taller girl. She worked as a admin in a office, I guess more like a coffee girl. She was very nice and friendly and had a very nice backside and a firm body, though very small boobs. Before we agreed on a LT with anal for 2000 Bhat. But she told that she had to good to work at 8 am. I told her not possible since I had not enough money and need to change in the morning by a money changer who open not before 9 am. Well, sex was very good, she gave me a bj during she sat on the toilet. For her it was maybe really the first time anal, at least since a long time again. At the morning I woke up when she get dressed. I told here that I can't give her the 2000 bhat before 9 am and that I want fuck her again, even when I was tired. I told her that I have only 1030 Bhat left if that is OK for her. She agreed without a signe of disappointment. She even told me good bye sexy and asked if we can see again. Well, funny I spent more the night in Spice club than for full sex. In Spice club I had 2 Gin Tonic, one beer and the girls had one baccardy breezer and a cocktail, total damage was 1100 Bhat with tip.
All, together I had the impression that we have now a buyer market and not more a provider market like in February/March this year.

[Madvic]

DG,

Good report. The money changers at the airport always have the the worse exchange rates as compared to banks in the city. It's better to use your ATM card (assuming you have one). If not, just change what you need at the airport and then change more at a bank when in BKK.

Have fun.

MadVic

[Poopbunny]

All, together I had the impression that we have now a buyer market and not more a provider market like in February/March this year.

World financial crisis and political disturbance in Thailand has impacted on tourism.

I heard they actually closed the international airport during a recent unrest. No one likes this sort of uncertainty for a holiday destination.

[Mark17]

. Your hotel might not even have a room open at that time if they are fully booked unless you had already paid for the previous night.

The only reasonable option would have girl you know waiting for you that you knew before from previous trips.The Landmark has an option that they will guarantee you room is available anytime you want 24/7.. on their lifestyle floor.

I agree with the second comment, but hard to line up a girl to be there at that time. Suggest you catch 3 hrs of sleep, get a coffee and be at The Eden Club at 12:45.

[M P Lurker]

A mate has the same problem... and from my old knowledge can't U arrange a late night meeting from sabi sabi or rose massage?
Good Point. The MPs Map does mention some MPs that have 24 hours call out service such as Sabai Sabai.

I have never tried it as am very fussy about what girls reasonably meet my spec.

[Canyon]

When I was in Bangkok this summer, the official exchange rate was 32.7, but I was able to get 33.8 to the US dollar at the Thai Military Bank next to the Landmark. Now I see that the official rate is 34.2 to the dollar. Does that mean you can get almost 36 to the dollar if you shop around. What's the best rate people are getting now?

[Member #3428]

Does that mean you can get almost 36 to the dollar if you shop around. What's the best rate people are getting now?

34.9 for 100 USD bill at super rich according their their web site

[Ranger775]

This was initially posted on Giotto's forum but I suspect many members, like myself, might not be familar with the site so I decided to post it again on the hotel and Bangkok threads.

I am in the midst of a two week vacation and have completed about a third of my stay at Livingston's Lodge and thought I would share my initial impressions. Let me preface my remarks by stating these comments are neither a paid advertisement (unless you count that posting ones impressions was one of the conditions for the ISG discount). Nor were these comments solicited or made under duress of any kind (I was not threatened to be banned from the Sports Bar). Finally, I am making these comments completely sober (as it is too early to began drinking).

I have divided this report into three sections: Description of the lodge, the Thai pearls who work in the lodge, and of course, the best asset at the lodge, the mother pearl.

The Lodge: Previous posts on Giotto’s forum have described the lodge appropriately as being an oasis in the bustling city. That is indeed a fine description although I would also describe it as a Nirvana for those seeking a relaxing vacation and looking for the ultimate in a GFE. It is nestled about 50 meters off the road so you have complete privacy and are insulated from traffic noise (although there is major construction taking place across the way which serves as an early morning alarm clock).

The lodge itself is wonderful consisting of some 27 rooms. It is small enough so that the staff quickly comes to know you and they provide a level of personal service and comfort that you would never find in a five star hotel.

The rooms are clean and spacious. As nice a room you would find at the Conrad, Sheraton, or Marriott. Indeed, the rooms at the lodge offer virtually all of the same amenities as the aforementioned hotels albeit without the decadent ambiance (which of course you end up paying for). With the prices at the lodge being some 40. 70 percent less than the other hotels it is a perfect place. Finally, the restaurant is outstanding with, as proclaimed by the manager Guido, the steaks being some of the best you can find anywhere.

The Pearls: The most stunning amenity at the lodge are the girls. I do not think you could find such a group wonderful, vivacious, sweet girls. Everyone I spoke to was a gem. Polite, funny, and very very friendly. Being on a deployment that has made any kind of interaction with members of the opposite sex non-existent (believe me many of those whose ID tags identify themselves as females would hardly qualify from any objective measurement), I thought one of those IED's must have hit closer than I thought and I had died and gone to heaven (yes, I know it is a cliche).

I will note, that my goal in coming here was not to necessarily engage in bouts of decadent sex. Rather, I wanted the intimacy provided by female companionship and all that it entails. In that respect, I truly felt I was living in a dream. Without exception every interaction I have had with the girls has been the ultimate fulfillment of what I had hoped for. I will not go into detail of each experience but suffice it to say that without exception each girl exceeded my expectations and desires.

In reading the thread some may find the bar fines a little bit higher than what you can find at the bars. 1500 Baht for an early take-out with a declining price structure as the evening wears on. On this point I will offer two observations. First, by any measure the prices are far less than what you would find in virtually any other place in the world.

Second, having visited the bars in Soi Cowboy and NEP, I believe the quality of the girls is far superior than what you will find in those other places. The best analogy I can think of is that at the lodge they offer a variety of steaks and you can chose to have it from local beef or imported Argentine beef. Of course the Argentine cut will be more expensive because it is of much higher quality. In this respect the girls are the finest.

However, notwithstanding the great rooms and extraordinary girls, the most extraordinary asset is Som (Giotto's wife). I can say without hesitation that she has personally ensured that my time here has been exceptional.

At the risk of derision, I will share one story that illustrates what I mean. My first night at the lodge (after some 30 hours of travel time) I entered the sports bar and one of the mamasans introduced me two of the wonderful girls. I was enamored with both of them. As the evening wore on I was asked if I wanted to bar fine either of them. Not being able to make up my mind I decided to bar fine both of them (bearing in mind that after the long travel I had no expectation of any performance but I wanted the company. As the girls continued to play pool I noticed they had a friend and I decided to go ahead and bar fine her so as not to leave her alone. I was told that she was not one of the girls at the lodge but it was suggested that I bar fine another girl who was relatively new and had not yet been bar fined (a very very sweet girl but unfortunately she has yet to learn English which made intimacy more difficult).

To make a long story short I found myself going out with 4 very sweet and wonderful girls and started to panic. I knew there was no way I could be with 4 girls (bed is large but not that large and I was exhausted and running strictly on adrenaline). But I was worried about insulting any of the girls and had heard about the concept of losing face. Fortunately, the un-barfined girl met a friend at the bar in which we are eating and decided to stay with her. By the way if I have one suggestion it is that NEVER, EVER, ask four Thai girls what they want to do. You will get five suggestions). So I returned to the lodge with the three girls and as they ate again (one would think that such small girls could not pack away the food, but they can), I went to search out the mamasan for advice.

It was at this point I was introduced to Giotto's wife. I explained to her my situation, I sensed she wanted to laugh (when I got to finally meet Giotto and told him of the situation I knew he was having trouble from shaking his head in amusement and rolling his eyes). Anyway, she quickly allayed my concerns and provided excellent advice on how to handle the situation and assisted me in resolving my dilemma (not to keep you in suspense I tipped two girls but went to sleep with one).

I suspect my antics raised a modicum of concern with Giotto and Som because I was ordered to report the following morning for a briefing. Som and I chatted for some time and she made a number of recommendations on how I should proceed (undoubtedly understanding I was not looking to get married but would probably end up marrying one of the girls if I was not careful).

She also provided me some critical G2 about the girls that I was interested in to ensure I received the ultimate GFE.

There is so much more to say but this post is already too long. Hopefully, I will have a chance to provide a follow on posting.

I understand that people come here for varying reasons and desires. However I cannot imagine why anyone would want to stay anywhere else. Even if your proclivities lead you to seek a different experience you are only minutes away from Soi Cowboy and just a bit further to NEP.

My only frightening experiences was going to a Ladyboy bar with a couple of the girls. I know they say there are ways to tell (ie Adams Apple) but I was scared. That experience solidified my decision to stay with girls from the bar. Although I do enjoy telling the girls that in terms of beauty the Ladyboys are number one and Livingston girls are number two (far far of more higher quality than what I saw at the myriad of go-go bars the girls took me to).

So far a truly remarkable experience.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Bumholes1]

34.9 for 100 USD bill at super rich according their their web site

Up to the minute bank exchange rates for all currencies:-

http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

[M P Lurker]

After reaching completion, P4P girls seem to have this habit of squeezing down the length of the condom to check the precise volume of sperm. Then they will comment: "not much today" and "this is low for you, Mick" :(

I am a bit embarrassed to tell them I took so long to come because have had a session with different girl not many hours before and several sessions in the last 24 hours.

I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?
Is this another primitive instinct?

[Hummer Bird]

After reaching completion, P4P girls seem to have this habit of squeezing down the length of the condom to check the precise volume of sperm. Then they will comment: "not much today" and "this is low for you, Mick" :(

I am a bit embarrassed to tell them I took so long to come because have had a session with different girl not many hours before and several sessions in the last 24 hours.

I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?
Is this another primitive instinct?
I almost always tell these girls that I had a girl earlier, and it is a great excuse for not going with some of the pushy ones. I sometimes use it to make a better deal or add to the expectations of what I am waiting for.
I had a few girls do this inspection thing, but almost always try to rip it off and make they either jack it like a rabid hyena, suck the last drip, and or titty fuck.
If your make a huge deal out of the moment they actually get a bit afraid and will do almost anything to stop your "transformation" into Beowolf!
Best
HB

[Ethwaites]

After reaching completion, P4P girls seem to have this habit of squeezing down the length of the condom to check the precise volume of sperm. Then they will comment: "not much today" and "this is low for you, Mick" :(

I am a bit embarrassed to tell them I took so long to come because have had a session with different girl not many hours before and several sessions in the last 24 hours.

I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?

Is this another primitive instinct?I see someone else has noticed this strangely Thai phenomenon. My long time TGF also does this. Alas, with the ubiquitous "Nit Noy" after close examination! Again, for the same reason as Mick Licker.

[Wendella]

I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?
Is this another primitive instinct?
I think so. You have to think back to the days before civilization, which represents the vast majority of human existence -- millions of years as opposed to a few thousand. After a long day out hunting mammoths or gazelle, men would come home, eat some cooked meat and berries, and later have a round with their woman by the campfire. When they were done, she'd squeeze the condom to see how much sperm today.

[TimTimGuy]

Mick -

The girls are supposed to be checking that the condom didn't break or leak.

If the girl finds a rip/break, I have no idea what she would do, but I think it triggers a visit to the clinic PDQ.

[M P Lurker]

That would be a cross between Adonis and Usain Bolt???
Is that as deadly as a Tesla Coil? ;) It all sounds very super charged. LOL
You are not a fan of SW, (street walkers) I suppose.
I am a fan of SW (Suzi Wong bar) but hardly relevant.

Anyway Star of Light usually opens at 10AM if you needs pipes cleaned out, but cannot guarantee to beauty of the first arrivers.
Some bars in Nana Plaza surrounds like "Morning-night" open early (11AM perhaps ???). Some Oilies open earlyish.

I have recently recommended a Map that shows some of these and opening times.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.736217,100.567088&spn=0.029056,0.039697&z=15

Try ringing Annies or Tulip to see if they have girls at 10AM.

But 5AM is not really great for anything other than street walkers.
Based on a suggestion from Tansak KTV, the Map has been updated to have a starting list of 24 Hour outcall massage services, e.g. Sabai Sabai, Rose (ex-Kornwan), Friends, etc.

Those with more experience than me in this area can send suggestions for inclusions/exclusions from the list, as I tend to keep phone numbers of girls to arrange special liasons instead.

[Warbucks]

She was very nice and friendly and had a very nice backside and a firm body, though very small boobs. Before we agreed on a LT with anal for 2000 Bhat. But she told that she had to good to work at 8 am. I told her not possible since I had not enough money and need to change in the morning by a money changer who open not before 9 am. Well, sex was very good, she gave me a bj during she sat on the toilet. For her it was maybe really the first time anal, at least since a long time again. At the morning I woke up when she get dressed. I told here that I can't give her the 2000 bhat before 9 am and that I want fuck her again, even when I was tired. I told her that I have only 1030 Bhat left if that is OK for her. She agreed without a signe of disappointment. She even told me good bye sexy and asked if we can see again. Well, funny I spent more the night in Spice club than for full sex. In Spice club I had 2 Gin Tonic, one beer and the girls had one baccardy breezer and a cocktail, total damage was 1100 Bhat with tip.
All, together I had the impression that we have now a buyer market and not more a provider market like in February/March this year.

Shit you got a steal at those prices. I was not quoted less then 3000 for LT. Don't you think the prices will go up with the lack of customers?

[Ericklein]

After reaching completion, P4P girls seem to have this habit of squeezing down the length of the condom to check the precise volume of sperm. Then they will comment: "not much today" and "this is low for you, Mick" :(

I am a bit embarrassed to tell them I took so long to come because have had a session with different girl not many hours before and several sessions in the last 24 hours.

I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?
Is this another primitive instinct?

I always feel nice telling them how many sessions I had within the same day

[Member #2041]

After reaching completion, P4P girls seem to have this habit of squeezing down the length of the condom to check the precise volume of sperm. Then they will comment: "not much today" and "this is low for you, Mick" :(

I am a bit embarrassed to tell them I took so long to come because have had a session with different girl not many hours before and several sessions in the last 24 hours.

I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?
Is this another primitive instinct?
Yet another reason not to use condoms.

[ThaiLearner]

After reaching completion, P4P girls seem to have this habit of squeezing down the length of the condom to check the precise volume of sperm. Then they will comment: "not much today" and "this is low for you, Mick" :(

I am a bit embarrassed to tell them I took so long to come because have had a session with different girl not many hours before and several sessions in the last 24 hours.



I feel like starting to hide the used condoms from the inquisitive girls. Are they measuring our manhood power by sperm volume?
Is this another primitive instinct?

How do they measure it if you don't use a Jonny may be they have perpet. LOL

[Love Sex 22]

I agree that its a buyers market now in the free lancers world. There are to many girls looking for the same customer. Last night in spice club ratio of 15 to 1 customers. Also many young and handsome man looking only for freebies and some times they get it from very young providers that either has a sponsor away . or has her share of paying short times for the day. But most providers looking for a more mature man with a smart attire that possibly after one night of sex could be a repeat customer or even falling love with them to sponsor them, and they know that if they go with young man he probably want to have sex many time in one night and it will wear out their pussies. Any way in spice club last night 25 years old pretty white skin girl ask me 3000 for long time, I counter with 1000 and told her if she is good sex I will pay her 1500, that she agreed she was very eager to please me to get the extra 500 baht. But about 1 year ago she would never have gone for less than 3000. Now I am just waiting to see when the girls like in rain bow 3 or 4 will reduce there rates and go for long time for 2000 like it used to be few years ago.

[Drogue]

Shit you got a steal at those prices. I was not quoted less then 3000 for LT. Don't you think the prices will go up with the lack of customers?

In a free market society the law of supply and demand rules. If there is an over abundance of johns and fewer girls prices increase. If there is an over abundance of johns and fewer girls for P4P then prices increase. It is like gas wars and car sales. I have yet to see this law proven wrong.

[Tim Bone]

Shit you got a steal at those prices. I was not quoted less then 3000 for LT. Don't you think the prices will go up with the lack of customers?

DW
Armani suits and fat gold chains won't do you a favour here. :)
They quote what they expect you can afford.

[Lover Boy #2]

I see someone else has noticed this strangely Thai phenomenon. My long time TGF also does this. Alas, with the ubiquitous "Nit Noy" after close examination! Again, for the same reason as Mick Licker.

Thai Girlfriend/Wife does this because they belive if sperm volume is down you have been a buttafry.

Thai Pro does this because she wants to make sure everything is intact and she has not received a load of sperma.

I believe the Thai Worker then goes to clinic to get "morning after pill" to avoid pregnancy. Very few Thai Workers are concerned of HIV.....that is reason for low condom usuage....but these girls are taking birth control pills. The ones requesting condoms are concerned of pregnancy mostly.

[Lover Boy #2]

In a free market society the law of supply and demand rules. If there is an over abundance of johns and fewer girls prices increase. If there is an over abundance of johns and fewer girls for P4P then prices increase. It is like gas wars and car sales. I have yet to see this law proven wrong.

The only problem is that Thai's for the most part do not have the mindset of a free market society. You must be around for a while to realize that pricing in Thailand is a very strange thing....when demand lessens, prices stay the same and many times increase. "Have less customa....have to make higher pri". It doesn't make sense...but believe me...it is very true in all aspects of Thai business, including prostitutes and real estate.

[M P Lurker]

i believe the thai worker then goes to clinic to get "morning after pill" to avoid pregnancy. very few thai workers are concerned of hiv.....that is reason for low condom usuage....but these girls are taking birth control pills. the ones requesting condoms are concerned of pregnancy mostly.
many thai bar-girls, especially newbies are not this smart.
many girls got pregnant from their thai boyfriends due to not knowing anything about the morning after pill, or because they were too lazy to go and feeling lucky today.

the number of issaan girls that got pregnant because the stupid society taught them that good girls do not have sex, is astonishing. then the boy told her he loved her and despite her protests, forced her to have sex. (semi-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) but she loved him maybe).

she could not go into the local pharmacy and buy birth control pills due to the "shame" for a virtuous young girl. besides the pharmacy people probably know her family.

later the family will not accept the boy because he got her pregnant before marriage and besides he was probably just mucking around.

and so on.
the society here is stuck in thinking of at least 50 years ago.

when will society learn some basic modern principals.
teenagers are having sex and this cannot be stopped.
sex is great fun and a very basic drive.
safe sex must programmed into the whole society since they are children. thai men must use condoms when playing up so they don't end up passing hiv to their wives.
people must work.
sex work is a well paid and "noble" profession. people will normally end up working the best paid job that they can tolerate reasonably well. there should be no shame for thai girls that are horny and like to get a lot of sex for money as well.
girls who are fantastic performers as sex workers desrve to be very well paid and should be highly valued by society.

girls need to be educated also in how to have great sex.
they need to know that sex and love are two different things.
they should be encouraged to masturbate from puberty to get in touch with their own bodies and to find out how they like to be touched. they should be watching sex videos to learn what things the men like (even the rather kinky ones) and how girls enjoy themselves.
girls (and guys) should be taught about understanding the sex drive of their partners so that they can try to make their partner satisfied by sufficient sex but not far too much.
a good couple need to have moderately compatible sex drives.

humans are not mean't to be monogamous same as most higher species are also not monogamous. monogamy is old world thinking from when there was no birth control.

why is it that the parents never teach their children all the basic life skills. my parents didn't teach me either. i had to make all the basic mistakes myself to learn what goes on.
i had to choose a very unsuitable girl to be my ex wife, without having the skills to pyschologically profile her for basic compatibility.

in schools we get taught a lot of useless subjects (not all useless) instead of basic life skills
teach not to believe the sweet talk and watch how others are acting instead.

[Warbucks]

DW
Armani suits and fat gold chains won't do you a favour here. :)
They quote what they expect you can afford.

Interesting...A couple years ago I was quoted 5000 baht by Thai girl when I asked why the high price she said you can afford it. Back then I had one taxi driver I used to let hang out with me as I was new to the scene she had asked him was I some type of American music star because of my clothes and jewelry and he told her yeah...He was a big help. :(

[Member #3428]

Interesting...A couple years ago I was quoted 5000 baht by Thai girl when I asked why the high price she said you can afford it. Back then I had one taxi driver I used to let hang out with me as I was new to the scene she had asked him was I some type of American music star because of my clothes and jewelry and he told her yeah...He was a big help. :(

That's funny, a few months ago I went to Nana with some guests straight after a late meeting, full suit, and the girls kept asking for 5 to 6K yeah right...

A few days later in shorts and T shirt at the same bars they were asking 3-4 early in night and 2-3K later in the night, in slow season.

A few thai girls said that after they saw where I was staying, serviced apartment, they wanted to ask for more then what they originally said. :)

[Flyhere]

Went down to Soi Cowboy with a colleague around 9pm last night. It was packed with people. I read elsewhere that this is more of a hangout for the regulars and expats, with few tourists; My impression is that this is not true, or may be no longer true. Lots of tourists, Asian tourists.

Went into Joy bar, looked up someone I know, quick hello as she was with a customer, did not stay after seeing the handful of ladies inside.

Crossed the street to Shark. It seems to be a very regular place, I guess the large double-shop size helps, and the elevated seatings are good. Many girls dancing, some quite decent looking. The only thing is that they don't rotate much, so with the long narrow stage, I only see the same 2-3 girls immediately in front of me, making it difficult to scan the talents.

A girl came sit next to me uninvited, I smiled at her then ignored her as she was not my type, and she left. Decent place to have a beer and look around.

My colleague later barfined a girl (700thb) and took her back to his apartment, she was quite good looking and friendly, a bit Japanese looking. He reported the next day that she turned out to be quite lazy, more interested in watching TV, he gave her some taxi money and told her to leave.

Nothing took my fancy, and I walked next door to Baccara. Took a seat in front of the stage, and had a good view of the topless and pantyless dancers upstairs above me through the glass floor.

This is another popular place, also double-shop size. Lots of farangs and the girls seem more interested in these farangs, ignoring the Asian customers. A few good looking girls. I bought a drink for a girl I was interested in and her friend, she seemed only half interested, so when she went up to the stage to dance, I did not wait for her to return.

When the rain stopped, I walked down Cowboy, the bars were still hopping, although I could see many customers leaving with their barfined friends, and the crowd thinning out a little. Lots of groups of guys leaving without girls in tow as well. It was a little past midnight.

My impression is that Soi Cowboy is getting touristy, with lots of guys just looking around. The girls were not bad, a few good looking ones. While it would be a good place for a fun night out with a group, and very laid back, no pushyness, overall it's not my scene, with the noisy monotonuous techno beats and the unsmiling zombie-like robotic dancers. So off I go in search of a more intimate and friendly scene.

[Warbucks]

My impression is that Soi Cowboy is getting touristy, with lots of guys just looking around. The girls were not bad, a few good looking ones. While it would be a good place for a fun night out with a group, and very laid back, no pushyness, overall it's not my scene, with the noisy monotonuous techno beats and the unsmiling zombie-like robotic dancers. So off I go in search of a more intimate and friendly scene.

I had more fun in Nana then I did at Cowboy. Last past years its been reverse. As I said strange things happening in LOS.

[DG69]

I agree that its a buyers market now in the free lancers world. There are to many girls looking for the same customer. Last night in spice club ratio of 15 to 1 customers.

Were yesterday also in Spice Club. Was a very nice halloween party there, but the ratio men to women were not 15 to 1. Maybe 1,5 to 1.;) Well never the less a very good ratio since many of the girls were quite pretty and some of the guys obviously gay, so out of the game you can say. The girls were very eager to have fun and the whole night was very interesting. First when I enter I enjoyed that many girls and the staff were costumed. Like the day before in CM2, were I was only until 2 am and after I went to Spice club were I saw the girl from the last night. Had here for ST, since she had to work at 8 am. Same session with anal, gave her this time 1600 to compensate the low price from day before. Last evening she saw me again and the first part of the night I spent on her table. She were there like the days before with her friend a nice looking spinner. Unfortunatelly the friend, her name is Ann had no customer like the days before and I had the strong feeling that she was not happy to stay alone this night, too. After a while 3 am I asked Joy (the girl I had since two days) if she wants to go to my Hotel. But, she only wants to stay ST, because after sex she wants to go back to see her friend who had no costumer. I told her that she had to decide if she want LT (me) or stay with her friend. I goes she didn't understand right because later when I left her I saw them staying behind me and starring on my back when I was dancing with another girl. She said that she want to stay with her friend and that gave me a good excuse to leaf and looking arround for other girls. It was amazing how often girls approached me, but two or three times it happens in a strange way. A very pretty girl approaches me and than introduce me to her not so pretty friend and disappear. Yeah, the have a social behaviour and want help their not so pretty friends to get an customer. Needless to say that something like that will not be a successful strategy.
I could not decide what girl I should take, some had a nice face but a flat backside or the the other way around. In the end 4:30 I saw two very pretty girls. The one were very pretty but looking very bored and tired. The other one looked very young, if I would she only her face I would guess she is only 12. But, she told me that she is 22 years old and from Vietnam. She had a feminie body with nice round ass and spoke a very good English. Though she was not such an easy touch like the most Thai girls. So, on the one hand I wasn't sure if she is in the game, even when I saw from her body language that she was flirting (touching her hair and so on..) but she were a bit too cool and also I thought that maybe the police might stop me, because from face she looked like a 12 year old girl. So, I turned me back to her and looked for more easy targets. Than she tipped my shoulder and introduce her second friend, an oldish not pretty woman. Arrrrgh, a real no go, since the woman start to asked me the usual prelude questions, like were I come from and if I am here for work or holiday. I need a rescue and it came with a girl who looks not typical Thai. I saw her before that night and so, I said hello to her and starts a conversation with her, to escape the older friend from the Vietnamese girls.
The girl with whom I spoke than wants to go to another disco, it was already 4:30 and Spice Club was going to close. I was too tired and decide to go back to the Hotel alone. At my way back from Spice Club Soi 11 to Davin Hotel Soi 4, I saw the Vietnamese girls with the older Thai woman enter a Taxi. Damm, I thought the two younger girls were very hot and that I missed a good opportunity....
At Sukumvith were alot of girls also quite pretty once available, but some were Ladyboys others too drunken and I was also tired and not too eager to find somebody for the rest of the night. So, the night ends with no girl.

[DG69]

The day before yesterday were nothing special, I was shopping after sleeping than later the night in NEP (Angel Witch and Rainbow 3) nothing special to add about that clubs. Than I went too CM2. They had already a Halloween Party (30th of October). The decoration in CM2 was impressive and the staff was mostly costumed as Mummies. I just came to have some eye candy before I went to Spice Club. Spoke with some girls there for example with a girl from Usbekistan. The customer of these girls are usual Indian guys. I noticed that they have a weakness for European looking girls.
In Spice club I took the girl from the night before and had a nice ST.
Yesterday it was day 3 of my stay I was reading some intersting posts in that Forum about Tulip, so I decide to go there. I arrived there at 2 pm, in the basement were 7 - 8 girls to choose. I took Dao, she was the most pretty one from those 7 - 8 girls. I got the usual program I guess, I read before a report from another user in the massage parlor thread, so I know what the program includes. I can confirm anything what was written in the report about Tulip. Deep throat at the shower, body massage at the bed, next was licking my asshole, or better to say she was going to do that but I stopped her. I don't want insult somebody, but for me that is a way too gay. Next was deep throat at the bed while I fingered her backdooor. Than she asked me how I want fuck her. I told I want her anal, slidly disappointment was on her face. She shove my dick in her backdoor sitting on me reverse cowgirl. After that doggy stile in this position I came. Was a very professional job, good faked orgasm which is part of the show. Though I prefer the more gfe free lancer experience.
I also saw yesterday in another forum a ranking of best bars in Patpong, Soi Cowboy and Nana. So, I started a 8 pm at Patpong to see if the ranking is right for me. Patpong bar number one was Safari. Well, I found the bar, had a look inside and decide to give it a miss. The bar was small only one or two dancer and not very pretty ones. Though the bar was quite full with people. The next bar I could remember from the list was Kings Camelot. The only good thing is that prices for drinks are low and the staff is not pushing. Gin Tonic is only 100 bath. In Nana or Cowboy about 135 - 150. Girls in Camelot were quite old and not really stunning. In the past they might be pretty girls, because they were tall and quite curvy. So, for Milf lovers maybe exactly right.
I found that King Castle I and II is the best place over there, even when they have alot of Lady Boys. Next destination was Soi Cowboy. It was heavy rain at that time, so I couldn't enter the soi were the Taxi droped me off. The street was flooded and I had to go to the other entry of the street to get into Soi Cowboy. Number one bar on the list was Baccara. Well, the average girls there are not really stunners. The place did not impressed me much. It was already 11 pm and i decide to go back to Nana. Rain starts again and I stoped at Termae. Well, some pretty girls there, but they really just flirt with the Asian guys there. Guess they get a bad call when they are seen with a Farang. Heard that those Asian guys will ignore a girl who went with a Farang. In Nana I went to Rainbow 4 and there are really a good amount of pretty girls. Good eye candy, but I prefer Free Lancer and so I went to Spice Club.

[Love Sex 22]

[QUOTE=DG69]Were yesterday also in Spice Club. Was a very nice halloween party there, but the ratio men to women were not 15 to 1. Maybe 1,5 to 1.;) Well never the less a very good ratio since many of the girls were quite pretty and some of the guys obviously gay,





I didn't go to the Halloween party. I were there a night before. I was to tired last night cant get red of my jet lag in 2 days its take me a week at least. But the first night I had to go out after 6 weeks of no activity back in the state. Its good to be back always.

[M P Lurker]

... Than she asked me how I want fuck her. I told I want her anal, slidly disappointment was on her face. She shove my dick in her backdoor sitting on me reverse cowgirl. After that doggy stile in this position I came. Was a very professional job, good faked orgasm which is part of the show. Though I prefer the more gfe free lancer experience.
The GFE experience is more likely if you like doing what she likes the most. Its strange if this will be anal.

Yok tells me that one girl at Tulip, June, can actually orgasm from anal sex but this is very unusual. Yok is a little scared of bigger dicks up the arse but says she might not notice any discomfort if highly turned on first before starting the anal.

[DG69]

The GFE experience is more likely if you like doing what she likes the most. Its strange if this will be anal.

Yok tells me that one girl at Tulip, June, can actually orgasm from anal sex but this is very unusual. Yok is a little scared of bigger dicks up the arse but says she might not notice any discomfort if highly turned on first before starting the anal.

Well, I was today a second time in Tulip. This time with a girl called Ben. From Isaan, but looks a bit Chinese. I could choose from a selection of 10 girls, but Dao wasn't there. Which was fine for me, since I want try somebody else, to see if they have all the same program. Sex with Dao was good, very good but not gfe, since kissing wasn't on the agenda. Well, her program is in that way that there is no opportunity for french kiss.;)
Therefore I had the feeling that it is a bit impersonal.
Bens program was different. Here it was not she who leads the dance, like it was with Dao. Ben was a bit less professional, but therefore more gfe.
No, deepthroat under the shower, but Listerin which is a hint that she expect to get French kisses.
Blow job on the bed wasn't as good as with Dao. Ben can't deepthroat and she made the blowjob in such a way that I can't touch her. Dao made it in that way that I could finger her pussy and backside.
After a short blowjob and licking of my body from breast to toe where she moans and made funny noise, she put a condom on my dick and start fucking in Cowgirl position. After a while with a faked orgasm (I guess) she shoved my dick in her backdoor. (I told her before that I like that). First minute it continues in cowgirl position until she get used to it. Than we start missionary stile, which she enjoyed, at least I had the impression (not faked) than after few minutes we changed to doggie stil and than she on her stomach and I laying on her, where I came. Btw, when we had missionary style kissing wasn't a problem.
After sex I got a very good massage for my back. Very relaxing.
Ben has also like Dao a very firm body with, but a bit more feminine. Tits were small but firm and natural.
So, Dao had very good technic, deepthroat, body massage with tits, ass licking for those who like that but not much gfe. Don't get me wrong she was friendly and nice and we had good converation, but she was too professional, which is no wonder, since she made her program 5 times a day since about 3 years if I understand right. I guess this is one of the better jobs for the working girls in BKK. 5 times 1500 Bhat + tip a day is a quite good income in Thailand.

[Retired Army]

That's funny, a few months ago I went to Nana with some guests straight after a late meeting, full suit, and the girls kept asking for 5 to 6K yeah right...




For 6K I can call BKK gold for a top class model.

[BuleDaddy]

[QUOTE=
My colleague later barfined a girl (700thb) and took her back to his apartment, she was quite good looking and friendly, a bit Japanese looking. He reported the next day that she turned out to be quite lazy, more interested in watching TV, he gave her some taxi money and told her to leave.

.[/QUOTE]

Just like the bartender that tells chats up some wench while I have an empty glass, or the hairstylist that pulls out the buzz clippers when a customer walks in so she can finish me up real fasts. THEY GET STIFFED!!

Bangkok slappers always ask for that taxi money. They will go out and work in the middle of their mens to get some dude's sympathy money. They will ask for taxi money and walk right back to the bar for another chump. Paying a lazy one only makes them lasier.

[Opebo]

In a free market society the law of supply and demand rules. If there is an over abundance of johns and fewer girls prices increase. If there is an over abundance of johns and fewer girls for P4P then prices increase. It is like gas wars and car sales. I have yet to see this law proven wrong.

I'm assuming you didn't mean to retype the exact same scenario in the two bolded sentences above, but rather meant to outline opposite 'market' conditions. I'll only comment that in fifteen years of mongering I have never seen any price for sex anywhere in the world go down, only up. Then again I have yet to experience the Great Depression II.

[Forced Hand]

I'm assuming you didn't mean to retype the exact same scenario in the two bolded sentences above, but rather meant to outline opposite 'market' conditions. I'll only comment that in fifteen years of mongering I have never seen any price for sex anywhere in the world go down, only up. Then again I have yet to experience the Great Depression II.

I have to take my hat of to both of you eminent economists but in my experience if you get a working girl in a situation where it is late at night and she is facing your offer V's home alone, she is willing to bargain. It's not all macro economics lads, this market works on the laws of micro economics!

[Cunning Stunt]

I'll only comment that in fifteen years of mongering I have never seen any price for sex anywhere in the world go down, only up. Then again I have yet to experience the Great Depression II.

Don't get me started on how p4p prices have soared in Bangkok, particularly in the bars. 20 years ago you could BF a girl (forget what the bf rate was but I think 200 baht) and expect to pay her 500 baht LT. At an exchange rate of 40 baht to the pound (I'll convert in sterling coz I'm a Brit), that was 12.50 pounds. Now they are demanding and getting 3,000 baht which at an exchange rate of 55 to 1 pound is nearly 55 pounds. So that is an increase of over 400% in a few years. OK it is still a long way from the amount you would expect to pay in UK or USA, but still I think that cheap pussy is dead and buried in Bangkok - RIP.

I'll bet even SW's are asking 1,500 baht now for a one pop ST.

[M P Lurker]

i have just realised that i have been a regular patron of suzi wong go-go bar in soi cowboy for at least 3 years now and have bfed more girls/occasions from there than any other bar.

why? it must be that i like to check out the girl completely nude before making my selection and see how she interacts with the audience or others girls in the super sexy show or lesbian show.
this way i naver get a girl that is too shy and never get a poor performer. i often take two girls and always check that like each other very well first. there are always some "bitchy" girls in a bar that would not be suitable.

in total i have had 7 girls from suzi wong (4 of which no longer work there) with every one of them on multiple occasions (none were disappointing).

last evening double trouble with the petite but curvy miss b and tiny miss y who is the most acticve dancer now that miss j is gone. i have heard that miss p (now in shark) is a little "noi jai" (peeved) that she has been missing out out the "double trouble" parties, and so it is now suggested that i pick up 2 in sw and get miss as the 3rd girl from shark on the way home.
i suppose my bed is just big enough.
perhaps i could watch 2 girls doing a 69 while i am doing the other girl.

but tonight will probably see miss j (ex-sw) who is a "ram-thai" and super dancer but now running a little restaurant. she has stamina and generally doesn't need other girls to help out. :p its quite smart for girls quitting the bar scene to keep the odd few phone numbers of their very best customers that they still like to keep on keeping on, at least occasionally. i mean they can't just suddenly switch off their sexual appetites completely if they were always horny types.

[Lover Boy #2]

I can confirm anything what was written in the report about Tulip. Deep throat at the shower, body massage at the bed, next was licking my asshole, or better to say she was going to do that but I stopped her. I don't want insult somebody, but for me that is a way too gay.


Very nice reports.....but I had to laugh at the above comment. I used to feel the same as you........but then I said to myself....this isn't a guy licking my ring!!......so I just leaned back and enjoyed it. Over the years I have come to expel all homophoebic feelings, give excellent access.....and go with the moment....it feels great......a bit gay (closing eyes seems to help)....but great!!

I have noticed that this is becoming more and more popular with Thai P4P......I think it makes a lot of guys shoot a load faster, hence the popularity. One girl must have done it...the guy immediately shot...and she told her friends....now, it is very popular (blame the Thai P4P secret network that seems faster than Telekom).

If you visit South America, it is very popular not only in P4P, but in society in general. In Brazil for example, anal rimming is considered part of the sex act and any self respecting male would think he was short changed by his girlfriend if a rim job was not included in the nights festivites.....and no one considers himself gay.

I recently took my friend's wife's girlfriend out on a date in Chonburi. This was an early 30's relatively hi-so woman and there was no sex talk at the movies, at dinner or during the auto ride with her driver (I tried but she kept pointing at the driver and looking like I should shut up...so I did). We ended up in my room. We were kissing, etc....clothes came off...we took a shower...jumped in bed....and she immediately went to work on my asshole with her tongue. I couldn't believe it!!....and it takes a lot to surprise me. I repaid the favour by the way....as we are being honest here.

[Drogue]

I'm assuming you didn't mean to retype the exact same scenario in the two bolded sentences above, but rather meant to outline opposite 'market' conditions. I'll only comment that in fifteen years of mongering I have never seen any price for sex anywhere in the world go down, only up. Then again I have yet to experience the Great Depression II.

You are correct. I was very tired when I posted the response.

[Betong]

So that is an increase of over 400% in a few years.
To be fair, the rule of thumb about inflation is that it doubles prices every decade, so 55 pounds now is pretty close in real terms to 12.50 twenty years ago. The bowl of khanom jiin nam ngiao I used to buy for 5B in 1988 is 20B now, the little house I used to rent then for 3000B/mo is now about 15,000B, and so on. But yeah, somehow it feels less justified or something for pussy. Thank heavens for Pattaya where you can still get a beer and a shag for B1000.

[Drogue]

Heard that those Asian guys will ignore a girl who went with a Farang.

They are insecure about their dick size!!

[Lover Boy #2]

They are insecure about their dick size!!


True sometimes...but more complicated than just that. Many Asians believe that HIV is a Western curse and as long as they stay with girls that only go Asian (read Japanese)....they avoid the HIV....and can possibly go skinless without fear.

I was with some Japanese businessmen recently and we went to a Japanese club......I really felt out of place with the karoke thing and their goofy comments. However, I do work for one of the guys and I have a work permit through his company. Part of their incoming rules was that I get a HIV test from their company authorized physician before employment and it was PCR type. I do not understand much Japanese...but after a lot of drinking...I could tell that there was some conversation about my HIV negativity. I was quite embarassed...but these guys really don't consider this type of stuff. I was however the honourable recipient of sex with a real looker that was picked for me at the club (and paid for by the host)....back at their apartment. There was some living room play......and I could see that these guys were laughing at me. I had drank quite a bit and asked what the problem was....fuck the money derived from this relationship. One of the guys that I hardly know asked if I was part Black (penis comment.....I'm a Euro born white guy))......this was getting ugly...so I took her to the room and finished up...then left. Next day, the host apologised, stating that there was a lot of alcohol and the comment was uncalled for.....and that he would deal with the big mouth at a later time....the Japanese way I guess. I'm glad I didn't make a scene.....as my income level might be a lot lower now!!

[M P Lurker]

True sometimes...but more complicated than just that. Many Asians believe that HIV is a Western curse and as long as they stay with girls that only go Asian (read Japanese)....they avoid the HIV....and can possibly go skinless without fear.

Meanwhile every village has both Thai men and women plentifully dieing of AIDS. It should be well known by now that Thai men (at the risk of being a bit sexist) playing up without condoms that is the chief cause of HIV spread these days.

Why is that every Thai seems to know several people that have died of AIDs in their village but I have only been aquainted with one who was a gay Indonesian hair dresser back home?

Western Curse? I have to laugh at that.

[Lover Boy #2]

Meanwhile every village has both Thai men and women plentifully dieing of AIDS. It should be well known by now that Thai men (at the risk of being a bit sexist) playing up without condoms that is the chief cause of HIV spread these days.

Why is that every Thai seems to know several people that have died of AIDs in their village but I have only been aquainted with one who was a gay Indonesian hair dresser back home?

Western Curse? I have to laugh at that.

I think they also believe that the younger the girl, the less chance that she has been infected with anything....hence the desire for very young girls......a lot of these guys are not playing the same game we are.

[MikeSaw]

If so, how is it these days? Hit or miss, as in the past? What is the going rate there now for the more skankier ones? the average ones? the rare fine one? (Visiting Bkk soon , so I'm doing my homework now!)

Likewise, info for both the Nana disco and the Nana hotel parking lot, please. What about the handful of street walkers who used to hang out during the daytime at the bus stop near the Starbucks on Sukhumvit?

[Normad2020]

Sir Mike, have you tried No55 at Annie's? I will be back in Bangkok for some business soon and will want to visit her again :-) I know you are a gentleman so treat her nice and leave some for me...hahahaha

Cheers
normad2020




Oh shit, I can just imagine Niko being inundated with bookings now!

[Retired Army]

To be fair, the rule of thumb about inflation is that it doubles prices every decade, so 55 pounds now is pretty close in real terms to 12.50 twenty years ago. The bowl of khanom jiin nam ngiao I used to buy for 5B in 1988 is 20B now, the little house I used to rent then for 3000B/mo is now about 15,000B, and so on. But yeah, somehow it feels less justified or something for pussy. Thank heavens for Pattaya where you can still get a beer and a shag for B1000.


In 1988 the Thai Baht was pegged at 25 baht to the dollar, therefore:

5 baht in 1988 = .20 cents

20 Baht in 2008 = .57 cents

That's not an unreasonable increase over twenty years.

[Opebo]

I have to take my hat of to both of you eminent economists but in my experience if you get a working girl in a situation where it is late at night and she is facing your offer V's home alone, she is willing to bargain. It's not all macro economics lads, this market works on the laws of micro economics!

Alas, the only ones remaining in a financially unrequited state 'late at night' (or what passes for late at night nowadays), are most definitely not the attractive or young ones, FH. Thus, yes, one may bargain quite a lot with the old hags, but the desirable girls can almost set their own price. There simply are so few of them relative to the numbers of mongers in Bangkok. Pattaya is a bit better of course.

Luckily for me I don't really mind a provider of advancing years or with some pronounced imperfections, but I am chagrined that the option of an occasional cutie has pretty much disappeared.

[Member #3428]

For 6K I can call BKK gold for a top class model.

Never said I dumb enough to take that :D

[M P Lurker]

Sir Mike, have you tried No55 at Annie's? I will be back in Bangkok for some business soon and will want to visit her again :-) I know you are a gentleman so treat her nice and leave some for me...hahahaha

Cheers
normad2020
No I haven't got to it yet, but maybe tomorrow. But I am wondering how best to proceed seeing No. 55 is possibly not the same girl that I saw in the web pics. I guess I'll just have to call in and take pot luck.

By the way I'm Mick rather than Mike because Mike doesn't go very well with Mr Hunt ;)

[Drogue]

True sometimes...but more complicated than just that. Many Asians believe that HIV is a Western curse and as long as they stay with girls that only go Asian (read Japanese)....they avoid the HIV....and can possibly go skinless without fear.



Thank you for the insightful clarification. Personally, I always wear protection. Coming back to LOS in December and maybe 3 more times next year.

[Duniawala]

If so, how is it these days? Hit or miss, as in the past? What is the going rate there now for the more skankier ones? the average ones? the rare fine one? (Visiting Bkk soon , so I'm doing my homework now!)

Likewise, info for both the Nana disco and the Nana hotel parking lot, please. What about the handful of street walkers who used to hang out during the daytime at the bus stop near the Starbucks on Sukhumvit?
It's still the same.

[Double Shooter]

the shooter is hardly a frequent visitor (alas) to these fine establishments, but he has noticed a distinct difference in the bj technique.

at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), the bj-mo is all about establishing a steady rhythm, not much variation, just backwards & forwards for as long as it takes. vaginal emulation, you might say. simple but effective, the shooter always spilt his milk, sooner or later.

the sol takes a more pornstar approach. lots of variation, eye contact and slurpy noises. and the more down-and-dirty ambience of being sucked in public. on each occasion, a large-breasted lady will offer her additional assistance to the existing sucker, an offer to which the shooter as the happy suckee has never objected.

the shooter is typically a tardy ejaculator, but that has never been the case at sol. viva el sol!

[Wendella]

If so, how is it these days? Hit or miss, as in the past? What is the going rate there now for the more skankier ones? the average ones? the rare fine one? (Visiting Bkk soon , so I'm doing my homework now!)

Likewise, info for both the Nana disco and the Nana hotel parking lot, please. What about the handful of street walkers who used to hang out during the daytime at the bus stop near the Starbucks on Sukhumvit?

I'm not in BKK now but expect all these spots are still open -- Nana disco took a huge nosedive in quality, was near empty most nights when I was in BKK in March -- but the rest are probably about the same as when you were there last, as long as it was fairly recently (last few yrs).

You can try searching in the forum for more info -- top right. This question is the kind that some here get tired of answering again and again, so probly best to search a bit first and see what info's up there. I'd give better answer if I was there, but I'm not so can't really. Myself, found a quite nice girl in Nana parking lot last time for 1000 ST. None from your other spots though.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I'm not in BKK now but expect all these spots are still open -- Nana disco took a huge nosedive in quality, was near empty most nights when I was in BKK in March -- but the rest are probably about the same as when you were there last, as long as it was fairly recently (last few yrs).

You can try searching in the forum for more info -- top right. This question is the kind that some here get tired of answering again and again, so probly best to search a bit first and see what info's up there. I'd give better answer if I was there, but I'm not so can't really. Myself, found a quite nice girl in Nana parking lot last time for 1000 ST. None from your other spots though.Wendella,

Nana disco kill themself by raising their cover charge to 500 bht a few yr ago.

I think they lowered it back to 200 bht cover with one drink, but no one came back.

It was empty when I droped by last month.

I think NEP business will also drop.

with bad the enconomy and high barfines, more mongers will just go to Pattaya instead.

Fast eddie 48

[Mangofan]

Don't get me started on how p4p prices have soared in Bangkok, particularly in the bars. 20 years ago you could BF a girl (forget what the bf rate was but I think 200 baht) and expect to pay her 500 baht LT. At an exchange rate of 40 baht to the pound (I'll convert in sterling coz I'm a Brit), that was 12.50 pounds. Now they are demanding and getting 3,000 baht which at an exchange rate of 55 to 1 pound is nearly 55 pounds. So that is an increase of over 400% in a few years. OK it is still a long way from the amount you would expect to pay in UK or USA, but still I think that cheap pussy is dead and buried in Bangkok - RIP.

I'll bet even SW's are asking 1,500 baht now for a one pop ST.



SW's will always ask for 1,500 baht...but only idiots will pay it. 1,000 baht is the going price. In Bangkok, you can still get away with paying 1,000 baht for a shag at the following:

Beergarden
Thermae
Star of Light
A few beer bars down Nana and around Soi 22 (but usually have to negotiate)
Some of the plain looking girls (but still kind of hot) on Soi Cowboy (but will have to negotiate).
The blowjob bars on Soi Cowboy (Fanny's, Moonlight, Jungle Jim's)

Other than that, they will want 1,500 for ST AT LEAST. I remember I was in Suzie Wong's this past February. I saw the most beautiful dancer I've ever seen there. She was talking to a Jap guy who was buying her drinks. When he went to the toilet, I called her over. Out of curiosity, I asked what her price was. "3,000 baht for ST, 4,000 for LT." I was gob-smacked. I don't know if that's her normal price, or if that's what she was getting from the Japanese guy.

Also, I never EVER pay the barfine. I will always get her number and call her the next day to come over before work (easier because I live here). If it's a beerbar girl, and the BF is 300-400, then MAYBE I'll pay the barfine, but only if I can negotiate a good deal with the girl, usually for LT. A lot of these girls (especially the go-go girls) will quote a price for LT and then after you've shagged them, make up some excuse (have to go to doctor, have to see sister, feel sick, etc.) and want to leave early for the ST price. That's fine except that you've already paid the barfine. After this happened more than once I just stopped doing it. 700 baht to take the girl home is extortion.

[M P Lurker]

Also, I never EVER pay the barfine. I will always get her number and call her the next day.....
I like to collect ex-bargirls. They have many advantages, including no BF, usually horny due to getting less sex, quite experienced, etc.

[Mr Jetsetter]

Sorry to be a bother with my second request for specific info. I am planning my first trip to Bangkok during the princess' cremation rites, which I believe extend from Nov. 14-19. Does anyone know if bars and MPs will be closed in observance of this period? I do not want to visit if everything will be shut down.

THX in advance for any official word on this matter.

[Normad2020]

Sir Mick, please accept my apology.

Just take a dive and go try Nikko (No55). Hope you enjoy her.

Cheers
normad2020





No I haven't got to it yet, but maybe tomorrow. But I am wondering how best to proceed seeing No. 55 is possibly not the same girl that I saw in the web pics. I guess I'll just have to call in and take pot luck.

By the way I'm Mick rather than Mike because Mike doesn't go very well with Mr Hunt ;)

[Warbucks]

That's fine except that you've already paid the barfine. After this happened more than once I just stopped doing it. 700 baht to take the girl home is extortion.

I don't mind paying high prices 5000 baht limit for LT if the girl is cute and she performs and let me get in my protocal 4 nightly pops. I only feel like it is a rip off if the girl acts cadaverous. I have had this only happen twice though....in Thailand so I can't complain. If they renege on the deal give them less bread.....

Trying to lay off the WGs though....

[Beagleface]

My first time here. Many thoughts and surprises. First, compared to FKK clubs, the girls here are very average. Very. Have split my time so far between massage parlors in the daytime and nightime at soi cowboy and nana. Strange experiences in taking girls back to hotel. Both were young, one was a mother apparently. Impression is that vast majority of girls here are mothers--not my thing, prefer fully unattached girls a la fkk. The first girl back in the hotel turned into stone, a mannequin. No BJ covered or uncovered and the whole experience was unpleasant. I couldn't even explain in thai that I wanted her to leave. She was young and cute and she seemed whlie dancing at fantasia (? ) to be energetic and happy. In the room tho, a disaster. At fkk clubs, the girls down on you immediately, the sex is sometimes mechanical and cold, but sometimes is fantastic. 2nd girl, 25 year old, apparently a mother judging by breasts and stretch marks, but pretty. Also starts playing games in the room, not wanting me to touch her pussy--couldn't tell if this was flirting, some kind of game or what. Again pretty much refusal to do BJ, or at least very very hesitant. I'm not especially hideous (47 years old, overweight, but not quite so old as many, many of the men around here). After 30 minutes with this girl I told her I'd give her 1000 baht but please just leave. That got her to doing BBBJ, but I didn't enjoy it as I don't want to 'blackmail' these girls or force them. At fkk clubs, they are often ecstatic for the extra money the BBBJ/cim brings them. Am I doing something wrong fellas? Are the girls I am going with too young or cute? Bad luck? Better experiences at massage parlors (nataree and angel26) but again the girls are mostly pretty average although a couple of pretty ones too at the MPs. But, almost all appear to me to be mothers--my own taste is no mother. I just don't like the vibe of 'kids in the background'. So, can anyone straighten me out on what is going on with the girls in the hotel? Why so cold? Too young? It can't just be me because at fkk I have no probs with the girls or with getting BBBJ, and today at nataree received 2 bbbjs, very nice indeed, although provider was once again a mother although also quite pretty. More reports to come, feedback/advice appreciated. Oh, both hotel girls I took from nana, one came from rainbow4, which had about 50 girls 'dancing'. Soi cowboy appears to have the 'happier' dancers, and more nekkid too.

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[Eric Burden]

My first time here. Many thoughts and surprises. First, compared to FKK clubs, the girls here are very average. Very. Have split my time so far between massage parlors in the daytime and nightime at soi cowboy and nana. Strange experiences in taking girls back to hotel. Both were young, one was a mother apparently. Impression is that vast majority of girls here are mothers--not my thing, prefer fully unattached girls a la fkk. The first girl back in the hotel turned into stone, a mannequin. No BJ covered or uncovered and the whole experience was unpleasant. I couldn't even explain in thai that I wanted her to leave. She was young and cute and she seemed whlie dancing at fantasia (? ) to be energetic and happy. In the room tho, a disaster. At fkk clubs, the girls down on you immediately, the sex is sometimes mechanical and cold, but sometimes is fantastic. 2nd girl, 25 year old, apparently a mother judging by breasts and stretch marks, but pretty. Also starts playing games in the room, not wanting me to touch her pussy--couldn't tell if this was flirting, some kind of game or what. Again pretty much refusal to do BJ, or at least very very hesitant. I'm not especially hideous (47 years old, overweight, but not quite so old as many, many of the men around here). After 30 minutes with this girl I told her I'd give her 1000 baht but please just leave. That got her to doing BBBJ, but I didn't enjoy it as I don't want to 'blackmail' these girls or force them. At fkk clubs, they are often ecstatic for the extra money the BBBJ/cim brings them. Am I doing something wrong fellas? Are the girls I am going with too young or cute? Bad luck? Better experiences at massage parlors (nataree and angel26) but again the girls are mostly pretty average although a couple of pretty ones too at the MPs. But, almost all appear to me to be mothers--my own taste is no mother. I just don't like the vibe of 'kids in the background'. So, can anyone straighten me out on what is going on with the girls in the hotel? Why so cold? Too young? It can't just be me because at fkk I have no probs with the girls or with getting BBBJ, and today at nataree received 2 bbbjs, very nice indeed, although provider was once again a mother although also quite pretty. More reports to come, feedback/advice appreciated. Oh, both hotel girls I took from nana, one came from rainbow4, which had about 50 girls 'dancing'. Soi cowboy appears to have the 'happier' dancers, and more nekkid too.

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Having spent a lot of time in both Thailand and The FKKs, I can agree with most of your conclusions. They are different experiences..

1) Yes most working girls in Thailand are mothers. That is why they are working, they got pregnant and boyfriend/husband left them. They go to BKK or Pattay to work and send money home. I would say 90% are mothers (usually 1 or 2 kids). You can ask them in the bar if it is important. Most are honest about this.

2) I almost always get a BBBJ with Thai girls. Out of ~50 girls, I only had 3 that did not give a BBBJ. Something is not right... Did you take a shower first (this is a pre-requisite for most girls). Talk to them sweetly like a girlfriend?

3) Massage parlors are almost a sure bet for BBBJ and great service.

4) Note that the FKKs cost a lot more 50euros for 30 minutes plus 50Euro entrance. In Bangkok, for the same money, you can pay a barfine, buy drinks, take the girl all night for multiple pops, giver her a nice tip and have money left over. Thailand is a better value. But the girls are more beautiful and work harder (but shorter) in the FKKs.

6) To tell you the truth, I have usually been disappointed with LT bar girls in BKK. I found one that was great and have been dating her for 2 years. I have also had much better luck in Pattaya..much better service.

EB

[Mangofan]

My first time here. Many thoughts and surprises. First, compared to FKK clubs, the girls here are very average. Very. Have split my time so far between massage parlors in the daytime and nightime at soi cowboy and nana. Strange experiences in taking girls back to hotel. Both were young, one was a mother apparently. Impression is that vast majority of girls here are mothers--not my thing, prefer fully unattached girls a la fkk. The first girl back in the hotel turned into stone, a mannequin. No BJ covered or uncovered and the whole experience was unpleasant. I couldn't even explain in thai that I wanted her to leave. She was young and cute and she seemed whlie dancing at fantasia (? ) to be energetic and happy. In the room tho, a disaster. At fkk clubs, the girls down on you immediately, the sex is sometimes mechanical and cold, but sometimes is fantastic. 2nd girl, 25 year old, apparently a mother judging by breasts and stretch marks, but pretty. Also starts playing games in the room, not wanting me to touch her pussy--couldn't tell if this was flirting, some kind of game or what. Again pretty much refusal to do BJ, or at least very very hesitant. I'm not especially hideous (47 years old, overweight, but not quite so old as many, many of the men around here). After 30 minutes with this girl I told her I'd give her 1000 baht but please just leave. That got her to doing BBBJ, but I didn't enjoy it as I don't want to 'blackmail' these girls or force them. At fkk clubs, they are often ecstatic for the extra money the BBBJ/cim brings them. Am I doing something wrong fellas? Are the girls I am going with too young or cute? Bad luck? Better experiences at massage parlors (nataree and angel26) but again the girls are mostly pretty average although a couple of pretty ones too at the MPs. But, almost all appear to me to be mothers--my own taste is no mother. I just don't like the vibe of 'kids in the background'. So, can anyone straighten me out on what is going on with the girls in the hotel? Why so cold? Too young? It can't just be me because at fkk I have no probs with the girls or with getting BBBJ, and today at nataree received 2 bbbjs, very nice indeed, although provider was once again a mother although also quite pretty. More reports to come, feedback/advice appreciated. Oh, both hotel girls I took from nana, one came from rainbow4, which had about 50 girls 'dancing'. Soi cowboy appears to have the 'happier' dancers, and more nekkid too.


When you're in a bar, ask if they're a mother ("Do you have baby?") Most are honest about it. There's no hiding stretch marks, so they have to tell the truth. I'm the same way - I don't like taking girls who have a kid because the body is usually a disaster.
Also, ask if they will do a BBBJ before you barfine them. If you get them back to the room and they won't perform, kick them out. Don't give them any money - just kick them out and the next day go back and tell the mamasan - you'll get your barfine back.
I would also suggest staying out of Nana - especially for the go-gos. The girls there are notorious for bad service. Soi Cowboy is much better, IMO.

[Opebo]

Beagleface, not many girls are mothers in the Thai-oriented business - the Thai guys wouldn't put up with that, at least in the higher end side of the Thai business. However, service is even worse.

[DG69]

Having spent a lot of time in both Thailand and The FKKs, I can agree with most of your conclusions. They are different experiences..

4) Note that the FKKs cost a lot more 50euros for 30 minutes plus 50Euro entrance. In Bangkok, for the same money, you can pay a barfine, buy drinks, take the girl all night for multiple pops, giver her a nice tip and have money left over. Thailand is a better value. But the girls are more beautiful and work harder (but shorter) in the FKKs.


50 + 50 Euro = 100 Euro = 4400 Bhat (yesterday)

Barfine = 600 Bhat
ST from Gogos = 1500 - 2000 Bhat (depends how pretty she is)
Drinks = 100 - 150 Bhat per drink.

So, if you take one drink and give the BG a lady drink you have already 300 Bhat damage (including usual tip for waitress)
BF = 600 Bhat
For a good looking girl you can expect 1500 Bhat with a tip of 200 Bhat your damage is 1700 Bhat.
So, all together 2600 Bhat vs 4400 Bhat.

If you have a very sexy girl and the act was very good than the money doesn't matter too much, especially since the difference isn't too big.

[M P Lurker]

Beagleface, not many girls are mothers in the Thai-oriented business - the Thai guys wouldn't put up with that, at least in the higher end side of the Thai business. However, service is even worse.
I agree that Thai men are likely to put up with girls whose service is ordinary more so than Farangs, and are more willing to choose whatever girls are left over when place is really busy on saturday night for example. I have I got it wrong and some girls give worse service to farangs than they give to Thais?
Its hard to be sure here.
Maybe the service desired or expected by me is a totally different style to what Thais want.

[DG69]

Am I doing something wrong fellas? Are the girls I am going with too young or cute? Bad luck?

Well, I guess you do something from, or have too high expectations.
Yesterday I saw two really pretty chicks in a Disco, but they were cool and snobistic. At least they act so. Maybe they were just young and unsecure. I could have them when I would start a chat with them, at least I believe that. But, I was quite sure they would be expensive and the fuck would be bad. Maybe I am wrong in that, but the chances are quite high. On the other hand there was a chick who was interested in my and even when she wasn't not as sexy like the others I took her. Of course I wouldn't take a ugly or average one, but when I need to decide to have a good looking girl for 1500 Bhat ST who provides most likely a good service because she shows interest in me, or a model type girl who want's 2000 - 3000 ST and act as she would do me a favour, than I choose the more gfe type of girl.;)

The girl I had last night was 28 years old, no kids, half Indian half Isaan (very but not very tall). Sex was quite good, she stayed from 4 - 9:30 am (ST) and had a very nice personality. I was first hesitant, I like more taller girls because they have mostly better backsides and waist to hip ratio. But, this girl had a very sex body which I saw when she was undressed. So, I did not regret my choice.
My advice to you is that you choose those girls who show interest in you.

[Mangofan]

I50 + 50 Euro = 100 Euro = 4400 Bhat (yesterday)

Barfine = 600 Bhat
ST from Gogos = 1500 - 2000 Bhat (depends how pretty she is)
Drinks = 100 - 150 Bhat per drink.

So, if you take one drink and give the BG a lady drink you have already 300 Bhat damage (including usual tip for waitress)
BF = 600 Bhat
For a good looking girl you can expect 1500 Bhat with a tip of 200 Bhat your damage is 1700 Bhat.
So, all together 2600 Bhat vs 4400 Bhat.

If you have a very sexy girl and the act was very good than the money doesn't matter too much, especially since the difference isn't too big.


Wait a minute.....you tip??? Maybe it's because I live here and have seen prices go up 40%+ in the last 3 years, (or maybe it's because I'm just cheap) but I never tip. And why are you tipping the waitress? Paying 140 baht for a 30 baht beer....no way am I tipping on top of that.

The only time I ever tip is when the girl comes over in the afternoon (thus waiving the barfine) and gives exceptional service beyond the call of duty. Then I'll tip her a few hundred baht.

[Fon Tok]

I enjoy reading reports on this thread and many have lead me to enjoyable sessions in some of the better known massage places (e.g., Tulip, Love Teen, etc.). Thanks to all the ISG contributors for their good reports.

Lately, however, I've been having a lot of fun with young (and not so young) women in lesser known venues -- neighborhood massage shops, hole-in-the-wall beer bars, all night massage delivery services, etc. This is probably not the best strategy for short time visiting mongers, or those looking for "stunners," as it takes a little time living in Bangkok to get a feeling for where these hidden opportunities might lie. It also helps to know how to communicate with the respective service provider (a little Thai goes a long way). Ultimately, a potential "friendship" can develop and any subsequent return visits are usually rewarded with a sweet smile and better performance.

Another interesting aspect, that I've noticed lately during this slow tourist period, is that more than a few ladies are going without and really enjoy the build-up for their own "finish." In fact, recently at a beer bar where I took a (satisfied) girl, on another night at the bar, I had a young lady slip me 1000 baht as a "loan" and ask me to hire her sister. Evidently, the girls compare notes and like to "prime the pump" a bit!

Ah...Bangkok

[Opebo]

... Thai men ... are more willing to choose whatever girls are left over when place is really busy on saturday night for example. I have I got it wrong and some girls give worse service to farangs than they give to Thais?
Its hard to be sure here.
Maybe the service desired or expected by me is a totally different style to what Thais want.

From what I hear from my Thai acquaintances they prioritize appearance and give almost no importance to service. Probably the biggest reason for this is they are generally more potent or more horny than the typical farang, and also they monger less frequently. Thus they don't need much to get going or get off.

[DG69]

Wait a minute.....you tip??? Maybe it's because I live here and have seen prices go up 40%+ in the last 3 years, (or maybe it's because I'm just cheap) but I never tip. And why are you tipping the waitress? Paying 140 baht for a 30 baht beer....no way am I tipping on top of that.

The only time I ever tip is when the girl comes over in the afternoon (thus waiving the barfine) and gives exceptional service beyond the call of duty. Then I'll tip her a few hundred baht.

Well, my calculation based on the comment from Eric Burden, who stated:


Note that the FKKs cost a lot more 50euros for 30 minutes plus 50Euro entrance. In Bangkok, for the same money, you can pay a barfine, buy drinks, take the girl all night for multiple pops, giver her a nice tip and have money left over. Thailand is a better value. But the girls are more beautiful and work harder (but shorter) in the FKKs.

In GoGo's I tend to tip, that is true and I have the feeling it's expected from the staff. Example a Beer might cost 120 Bath, I give then a 1000 Bhat note, after a while the witress comes back with a 500, 3 x 100, 3 x 20 Bhat notes and 20 Bhat in coins. The coins are that what they expect as a tip. So, I take the notes and leave the coins. That means that beer cost about 140 Bhat. I saw that even Thai people have the same habbit when they pay in the bill in GoGo's and Discos. Farangs and Thais who take the coins also, get a bad look which says most likely cheap charly. Maybe it's stupid to do so, but I see no real way back to cheap prices from years before.

[Taikoo]

Hi,

Is there a dating site like 'dateinasia.com' for finding girls in Bangkok? In DIA, if you are lucky, you can find girls and meetup with them while in Manila.

[M P Lurker]

......
Oh, both hotel girls I took from nana, one came from rainbow4, which had about 50 girls 'dancing'. Soi cowboy appears to have the 'happier' dancers, and more nekkid too.

Two problems are possible with a starfish girl.
1. You just chose the wrong girl.
2. She didn't really like you.

I have overall had fairly good luck with Soi Cowboy girls to the extent I have never even had a single bad one from Suzi Wong. But I do spend time getting to know them and trying to gauge if they are really keen or just putting on an act.
So not every SW girl will be good. There are some suspect character girls in every bar.

[M P Lurker]

Paying 140 baht for a 30 baht beer....no way am I tipping on top of that.

So why do you pay 140 baht for a 30 baht beer?
Or are you in fact paying for something else?

[M P Lurker]

Farangs and Thais who take the coins also, get a bad look which says most likely cheap charly. Maybe it's stupid to do so, but I see no real way back to cheap prices from years before.
Yes, taking back the coins is not good for the image at all if you want to ever go back there. This is actually known as "habitually sticky" (stingy) in Thailand rather than the perhaps more polite western term "cheap charlie".

[Bob Down]

In GoGo's I tend to tip, that is true and I have the feeling it's expected from the staff. Example a Beer might cost 120 Bath, I give then a 1000 Bhat note, after a while the witress comes back with a 500, 3 x 100, 3 x 20 Bhat notes and 20 Bhat in coins. The coins are that what they expect as a tip. So, I take the notes and leave the coins. That means that beer cost about 140 Bhat. I saw that even Thai people have the same habbit when they pay in the bill in GoGo's and Discos. Farangs and Thais who take the coins also, get a bad look which says most likely cheap charly. Maybe it's stupid to do so, but I see no real way back to cheap prices from years before.

A bar girl once told me the money you leave on the tray goes to the bar, so if you want to tip the waitress you have to take the money off the tray and hand it to her personally. ( she was a waitress that started turning tricks).

I hate coins and will leave them on the tray and hand the waitress 20/40 baht. Maybe more depending how drunk I am.

[Run Mann]

I hate coins and will leave them on the tray and hand the waitress 20/40 baht. Maybe more depending how drunk I am.

I have been in bars where the waitress sometimes returned my change all in coins but those coins can come in handy in a place like Pattaya where you need them to pay the taxi drivers.

[DG69]

A bar girl once told me the money you leave on the tray goes to the bar, so if you want to tip the waitress you have to take the money off the tray and hand it to her personally. ( she was a waitress that started turning tricks).

The money goes to a pot from which later all the staff becomes than a part. So, if you want tip a special waitress than you have to give her the money direct.

[Mangofan]

Look, I'll give the waitress a tip for good service. This means getting my drink order right, not hassling me to buy girls drinks, and not telling me to move seats when some rich asshole comes in. But I will always hand her the tip. I don't usually leave coins on the tray. Most of the time when I pay with a large bill they give me change in all coins. I once got 200 baht change in 10 baht coins. They went straight into my pocket....all of them. Give me the correct change in the correct way (no unnecessary coins) then maybe you'll get a tip depending on the service.

[Evil Penivel]

Sorry to be a bother with my second request for specific info. I am planning my first trip to Bangkok during the princess' cremation rites, which I believe extend from Nov. 14-19. Does anyone know if bars and MPs will be closed in observance of this period? I do not want to visit if everything will be shut down.

THX in advance for any official word on this matter.

It's just one more piece of the puzzle, but the Thai govt has officially asked TV channels to exercise restraint and places of entertainment to cease "entertatining" during the three days of national mourning (Nov 14-16).
Bangkok Post article (http://www.bangkokpost.com/051108_News/05Nov2008_news07.php)

Exactly how it comes down will depend on the police district doing the enforcing and local barowners won't get the detailed instructions until later. At this point, it appears a lot of the girls who work in gogos in Pattaya and Bangkok are making plans to go back to their villages for those three days.

Evil

[Retired Army]

Hi,

Is there a dating site like 'dateinasia.com' for finding girls in Bangkok? In DIA, if you are lucky, you can find girls and meetup with them while in Manila.


Have you tried Asian Friend Finder?

[Bumholes1]

The money goes to a pot from which later all the staff becomes than a part. So, if you want tip a special waitress than you have to give her the money direct.

Not necessarily correct. In most cases the money does go into a pot/box or whatever, BUT, in many bars, the staff do NOT share the contents, it all going to the owner.

If in doubt - ask!

[Member #3443]

Use the DIA search function. Click on Thailand and specificy Bangkok as the city and then hit the search button. There ar over 14 pages of girls from Bangkok on DIA.


[/Quote:
Originally Posted by Taikoo
Hi,

Is there a dating site like 'dateinasia.com' for finding girls in Bangkok? In DIA, if you are lucky, you can find girls and meetup with them while in Manila./End Quote]

[Bob Down]

I have been in bars where the waitress sometimes returned my change all in coins but those coins can come in handy in a place like Pattaya where you need them to pay the taxi drivers.

I have a bad habbit of turning up at the sky train only to find I need to change a note to buy a 25 baht ticket.

If I was given 100 baht in change it wouldn't be right to leave all of it on the tray.

[Beagleface]

Since my last report of 3 days ago or so, things have changed for the better. It's all a bit confusing to me. First, there are *****s everywhere, and of all kinds--sitting at cafes, sitting at bars, out on the streets and in gogos. How you approach them and what they cost is something I'm learning slowly. First 2 days experience was bad, but since then either very good or better. Nataree massage: 2 girls on 2 different days. 2600 baht (the most expensive girls they had). Both it turned out were mothers, bad. But bothquite pretty. One even had a boob job--very, very bad for me. 2 hours, maybe 30 minutes of which is spent in thebathtub and drinking coffee and not what I'm looking for. But one girlprovided 2 BBBJ and 2 cim. Other girl only covered BJ but almost provided anal and probably would have had I tried harder. Man happy two times with bothgirls, despite all. One nite after having made myself happy 3x and unable to sleep itook a stroll along sukhumvit. Dozens upon dozens of streetwalkers, most ugly. Then spotted a really cute eveninnocent looking one whocalled me over. I told her, no way, 3x today already. But she was laughing, happy, very sweet, and cute, like a japanese doll (I told her I thought she was japanese). Well, after some chat and convincing I took herback to hotel for 1000 baht--$30. A really sweet girl. We agreed to meet up the next day. Met her at 5pm, she arrived with a girl she was with the nite before. Quicklyexplained no sex with other girl, but wanted to go to 'ghost movie' and dinner (which we pretty muchagreed to the nite before). I don't know how things work aroundhere, but what the hell. Themovie and dinner for the 3 of us intotal cost something like $30--who cares (at least while I have a job). I guess this would classify as a classic GFE because she was very sweet, laughed a lot, and would never guess her line of work (probably a part timer). Spent nite together. Sex not great, BBBJ given tho she didn't enjoy it much. But seemed genuinely happy when customer (me) climaxed. Don't know how typical this sort of situation is--taking out to movies, buying dinner, some japanese animation books for her. Her fee for the overnight/LT stay was only 2000 baht. Don't get this at fkk club of course and I would sayshe was pretty much of fkk quality, maybe a tad lower, but still quite cute. Today after she left took quick stroll up near NP, in one of the bars saw a very hot bodied girl. Thought at first the tits were big owing to kids, but turned out completely natural and not a mother. Extremelynice body. Told her I had just had sex (with the GFE before sending her home) and didn't think icould go again, but she talked me into it. BBBJ for 1500 baht, gave her another 100 because she kept begging me! Very very nice body, energetic fucking, and determined BBBJ with CIM. I'd give her body at least an 8, maybe 9 or 10. Gorgeous curves to her hips, nice tits, especially for a thai. Face not bad at all--7? 8? So, things much improved lately. Just realized I didn't evenmentionthat took a gogo girl back the other night and would up having condomless sex with her. Don't think this was planned. She was very young (she'd said 16 but I dontthink this was possible, since she worked at major NP gogo place), and didn't seem to know or object to anything, except pointed to her butthole and said, No. So unprotected sex withthis girl and for me one of the cutest girls in all of NP. Not sure if this was the plan, think we sort of fell into it (she thought I only wanted BBBJ and didn't bring condoms, tho right next to her face on the bedside was my big box of condoms, so. ? ). Right after ranout to pharmacy and bought morning after pill for her--she didn't ask for this but last thing I want for her is to have my kid. Anyway, much fun since last report. And while there are many, many, many unattractive girls, there's quite a few nice ones and you never know where they will turn up. Lastly, strangely, my best experience has been with the place I would think you wouldn't get it--from a 'streetwalker' who provided the GFE and I spent the day with at the movies. Go figure. The saga continues.

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[Mouse1]

Look, I'll give the waitress a tip for good service. This means getting my drink order right, not hassling me to buy girls drinks, and not telling me to move seats when some rich asshole comes in. But I will always hand her the tip. I don't usually leave coins on the tray. Most of the time when I pay with a large bill they give me change in all coins. I once got 200 baht change in 10 baht coins. They went straight into my pocket....all of them. Give me the correct change in the correct way (no unnecessary coins) then maybe you'll get a tip depending on the service.I think the same way. Two nights ago popped into a couple of go-go bars just to wind down for the evening. Had a beer in each, bought a lady drink in each with no intention of bar-fining, and then moved on. My change also came in a large number of coins, and rather than getting my reading glasses out and rummaging through the coins to find a couple of 10's, just took the lot. Perhaps if they'd made it easy for me by leaving notes and a couple of 10's I might have left a tip. Figured I'd done my bit by having one expensive beer and one very expensive cola. Perhaps next time I might keep some 10's in my pocket before I go in to leave as a tip.

[Penny]

Hi All,

Can anybody let me know that November 14 to 16, everything there in BKK is closed for a cremation??. If this is correct, it really sucks as I will be there only in these days.

can any expert here comment?

[NicFrenchy]

I am seeing a trend now where Field reports are written without the poster ever hitting the "ENTER" key.

The whole post then apprears like a big turd in the middle of the page resulting in me not reading it at all (and maybe others).

[Goyave]

Hi All,

Can anybody let me know that November 14 to 16, everything there in BKK is closed for a cremation??. If this is correct, it really sucks as I will be there only in these days.

can any expert here comment?Read here: 809979

[Amjeck]

Yes, taking back the coins is not good for the image at all if you want to ever go back there. This is actually known as "habitually sticky" (stingy) in Thailand rather than the perhaps more polite western term "cheap charlie".
Can't win either way. Thais will either look at you as a "cheap charlie" or a "fool" who is nothing more than a walking atm machine. I'd rather be viewed as the latter, however.

[Daddy07]

I am seeing a trend now where Field reports are written without the poster ever hitting the "ENTER" key.

The whole post then apprears like a big turd in the middle of the page resulting in me not reading it at all (and maybe others).

I agree, and just to clarify, every poster should know that long reports look much better and are far more readable if there are several short paragraphs instead of one large block of text which is difficult to read.

I sometimes skip these reports too as they can be too difficult to navigate.

[Daddy07]

Can't win either way. Thais will either look at you as a "cheap charlie" or a "fool" who is nothing more than a walking atm machine. I'd rather be viewed as the latter, however.

I'd rather be thought of as a "cheap charlie" than a walking ATM fool.

In my mind, tips should be earned.

[Mouse1]

Just realized I didn't even mention that took a gogo girl back the other night and would up having condomless sex with her. Don't think this was planned. She was very young (she'd said 16 but I dontthink this was possible, since she worked at major NP gogo place), and didn't seem to know or object to anything, except pointed to her butthole and said, No. So unprotected sex with this girl and for me one of the cutest girls in all of NP. Not sure if this was the plan, think we sort of fell into it (she thought I only wanted BBBJ and didn't bring condoms, tho right next to her face on the bedside was my big box of condoms, so. ? ). Right after ranout to pharmacy and bought morning after pill for her--she didn't ask for this but last thing I want for her is to have my kid. ...Or for you to have her STD's?

[FlyingVisitor]

I'd rather be thought of as a "cheap charlie" than a walking ATM fool.

In my mind, tips should be earned.


You are absolutely right. In Thailand you are not in the US with its bothering looking for a tip at any situation !

FV.

[Retired Army]

I'd rather be thought of as a "cheap charlie" than a walking ATM fool.

In my mind, tips should be earned.


Thais tip very little or nothing at all. Go figure.

[Goyave]

Usually, Thais (at least those that I know) don't respect people (especially foreigners) that pay (or tip) too much (they are considered as "gno" = "stupid"). But they (the P4P girls for instance) may say that you have a "good heart" ("jai dee"). If it is your case, be prepared to frequently hear the "sick buffalo" stories and to be asked to help their family.

If you're obviously a "cheap Charlie" ("kee niaow"), they won't appreciate you either, but at least, you will very likely avoid most of the usual money related tales.

When you pay the "right price", and for a foreigner, it's sometimes exactly the same amount, but often slightly more (maybe 10 to 33% higher in most situations) than what a Thai would have paid, Thais won't say you are a "kee niaow" nor "jai dee", but that you "roo maak" (know much / many things) and that you are "chalaat" (clever). In every purchasing situation, it's better to investigate and to know how much a Thai usually pays before making a fool of oneself.

Fortunately, ISG and other boards exist to educate us foreigners about the reasonable practices!

[Amjeck]

I'd rather be thought of as a "cheap charlie" than a walking ATM fool.

In my mind, tips should be earned.
Oh yah, I meant to say "cheap charlie". Wasn't sober when i wrote that. Yah, don't spoil these lazy thai servants who are always looking for free handouts. They're lucky enough that we are there spending in their overpriced establishment in the first place.

[BuleDaddy]

Oh yah, I meant to say "cheap charlie". Wasn't sober when i wrote that. Yah, don't spoil these lazy thai servants who are always looking for free handouts. They're lucky enough that we are there spending in their overpriced establishment in the first place.

The British and Europeans do it all the time. Save your money for beer and booty.

[Member #3443]

See my report in the Giotto's portion of the forum. Great time I had ! !

[Giotto]

See my report in the Giotto's portion of the forum. Great time I had ! !Taloha,

Here the link to your report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=810909&postcount=2535

Livingstone's website: www.livingstones.co.th


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

My trip to LOS for 11 days ends.

I am getting very old now :( and too lazy to try many new girls.

In the end had only 4 new girls and the rest were regulars.

Of, the 4 new ones, 2 were superbly exceptional and so go into the phone list of regulars, (despite one of them having a flatish nose but gave a wonderful feeling on the bed even with condom). One other was average or slightly above and one very inexperienced, so wouldn't bother to repeat these 2.

I was even too lazy to go Pattaya possibly because I got hooked up with some very talented girls. Next time I probably must go to Pattaya first before getting caught up.

All the regular girls continue to perform well so there is little incentive to collect new girls unless they are absolutely stunning or the hottest thing on earth.

[Iseeu]

Sunday: Mick Licker + Giotto, Tulip, LL, “N”, Baccara bargirl

Continued from Part III:
After my all night sex fest with Orchid, I was too knackered to even contemplate going to Nataree that morning, so I got 2 hours of sleep, went for a run in the hotel fitness club and arranged to meet Mick Licker at Livingstone’s. We sat and spoke with Giotto for a couple of hours, mostly on the state of the world economy, Giotto’s favourite topic the state of Thailand corruption, and of course ML’s and mine favorite topic the state of available p*ssy. ML had just landed from Germany which is my regular hunting ground, and we shared some experiences and I believe that we even enlightened the Bestard Giotto on some of the goings-ons in his Heimland. ML is a virtual font of information on the Bangkok scene and has some amazing history playing that field. We also have similar tastes so it was great to pick at his mind. I had Nataree and Tulip still left on my to-do list and at Mick's recommendation we finally decided to head together to Tulip, which I had never been to and has become a popular destination for ISGers.

We went downstairs and to check out the line up of about 8 ladies. I saw 2 that I liked a petite Chinese looking girl awith a very pretty face and another who had the dirty sexy look in her eyes that I look for. After some misunderstanding on my selection, it turned out I had chosen the famous Dao who certainly lived up to her reputation. ML chose the pretty Chinese girl, Ben, whom was fairly new to the business, but apparently very well-trained as he thoroughly enjoyed her.

Dao knows her job very well and apparently has a set session menu. None of that for me. She was obviously trying to get my first seed in the shower, but I can masturbate myself in the shower and don't need help for that especially as she had all of the proper equipment that enable other ways to get off. So I suggested that we move to the bed, where we tried a number of positions, then I asked for her to turn on her stomach and asked if we could use her other hole. She readily agreed. I asked if she had some lube, but she said no need, and I have to say that it was the loosest back door that I have ever had the pleasure to penetrate. No need for the slow entry usually needed for anal sex. Just slid right in there. In fact, I had to check to make sure that I was in the appointed orifice. She has a way of moving her glorious backside backwards to meet my thrusts and after about 10 minutes of pounding, I filled the condom. She then gave a fairly decent massage, which I cut short, so that I could give her a tongue bath along with my patented toe suck leading to DATY. She's a squirter and a very vocal screamer. At about the 90 minute mark she tells me that the session is over. I showed her my watch and told her to lie back down as I wasn't finished eating her p*ssy. No arguments. Afterwards, we tried a couple of positions, but I pulled out before finishing pulled the condom off and popped all over her dirty body. Great session. I understand why Tulip is high on ML's list and how Dao has become a popular destination in her own right. Message to self for next visit: "does she do takeaway?

We walked back to the Lodge, had some drinks with the mamasans and girls, and I was beginning to get into the LL mood of frivolity. Lots of pretty succulent things in the LL sports bar who looked very hot and I was sorely tempted to try some of them. We had noticed the new mamasan, Miss B., when she reported to work earlier and she was very well put together. In the bar she sat next to me and was getting very friendly. I even asked politely if she was available to play and she was, and I began thinking of fulfilling a new fantasy of mine- doing a mamasan. So I invited her to dinner and ML took one of the other ladies. I have read that the food at LL is very good and it did not disappoint. Put it all on my tab. I had to let Miss B know that our mutual attraction would have to be consummated some other time, pleading that I had an early flight the next morning, and needed to pack, which was true. Actually, I had to get back to the Sheraton to meet TLL #1, N, who insisted on coming to my room to say good bye. Said my farewells and thanks to my esteemed friend for a great couple of hours and walked back to my hotel.

I got back to the Sheraton to find N waiting at my door looking lovely in a gorgeous sheath dress. We go inside and I lean over to kiss her, but she turns her face away. I offer her a drink and tell her to join me sitting in the bed but she refuses both. I ask what's up and she tells me that today is her holy day (she called it her "monk day"), which she has once a week and that she can't lie on a bed or have any other type of pleasure that day, including alcohol and good food. Has anyone heard of this before? I was pretty incredulous as this wasn't the way that I had planned to spend my last night in BKK. I told her that I admired her for her beliefs even if I didn't share them, but that I really didn't want her hanging around to watch me pack my bags. That's when she told me how much she liked spending time with me, that the night she spent in my bed was the best night of her life, that she would like to spend the rest of her life with me and could I lend her $6K to get her started in her new business. I explained that I wasn't ready for a life commitment after 2 days of knowing her, nor was I going to give her money, wished her well, promised to keep in touch and walked her to a cab, and gave her cab fare for her return trip.

Ok- so now it's about midnite, I was ready for some action and I still had about 5 hours to go till I had to leave for the airport, so I walked over to Soi Cowboy and started making the rounds. Went to Susie Wong's, Long Gun and some others, talked up some bargirls and ended up upstairs at Baccara. I was looking for a young lithe thing to fill out my dance card. There were some serious hotties dancing up there sans panties and little titties hanging out. I sought the wildest one, who was gyrating the most sensuously on the dance floor and offering wide angle views to the oglers below. There she was, with a mischievous smile, having a great time teasing the pervs below. I barfined her and took her back to the Sheraton. Noi was 18 or so she said, and not the most experienced performer, but I was only after the optifuck for this and she fit the bill perfectly. I sent her home with 1200 Baht and a big smile on her face.

Monday morning:
Time to shower, pack and get ready for my flight. I had spent 62 hours in Bangkok, 50 of which were spent either in the company of women or in the pursuit of some. Where else is there such an abundance of riches, so many opportunities for willing p*ssy? I'm a jaded monger too, just like many of the Bangkok regulars who report here, and I can understand why many of them have become complacent and even disappointed at the current scene when compared to Bangkok's glorious history. But as a sometimes visitor, I have to say that the variety of options and the beautiful willing Thai women make this a unique microcosm rarely found anywhere in today's world. Thanks to all of you who post here regularly and provide so much useful information. It made planning this trip so much easier and unbelievably intense. I have to find more reasons to come back more often. Bangkok Bangs!

[Iseeu]

Continued from Part II:
Saturday: Annie’s, Biergarten, “K”, Eden girl

My meeting + celebratory lunch (we closed terms of a partnership) went well and ended at about 2:30. Back to my hotel to change clothes and went off to Annie’s, my sentimental favourite as it was the first soapie massage that I had ever encountered. I don’t remember the girl’s name but she was # 28 or #29 and good, and even if Annie’s has lost its luster, the service is still very good and the place looks cleaner and better kept than I remember it. After a quick CIM, she actually gave a fairly decent massage, to which I reciprocated by giving her a massage, which led to a noisy DATY and then a vigorous coupling for my 2nd pop. She earned her 300 Baht tip.

From Annie’s, I walked to Eden to close the details with Bruce for my takeout scheduled for that night and from there I went to Biergarten, just to check on the state of the current FL offerings. It was a Saturday afternoon and pretty packed and I’m sure that if I was so inclined that I could have found someone to take home, but I have to say that the offering was fair to poor. No real stars, and it didn’t seem that too much pickup action was happening at that hour. I had to be back in my room by 5:30 for K.

K is gorgeous. Slim, beautiful features, hips, small breasts, and just the biggest brown wells for eyes. I could look in those eyes forever. She smiled when she saw me just looking at her, unbelieving that this goddess was my date. Another intelligent, educated woman in her mid 20’s, K works in the IT industry, and is unmarried but with a daughter. I took her to dinner in the great Thai restaurant in the Sheraton (pricey, but I put the bill on my expense account), ordered an expensive bottle of Italian wine, and we made love to each other with our eyes in that restaurant. She’s not used to drinking she says, but helped me polish off most of that bottle and we both decided to take the rest of the bottle and our dessert upstairs in my room.

Just magical. She was good, very knowledgeable of her own body and mine and wild. Sadly, she had to pick up her kid and had to leave by 9:30 pm. and had her own work commitments on Sunday (was she throwing my own line back at me?) so we probably wouldn’t be able to see each other again on this trip. If I would ever think about a permanent relationship with a Thai woman, K would match all of the requirements. I promised her that I would come back to BKK after Christmas and I plan on keeping that promise…

I comforted myself with the knowledge that my Eden girl was due to arrive at 10, so I just had a chance to shower and make a call back to the US. At 10:15 she hadn’t arrived yet and I began to worry. At 10:25 I began looking for Eden’s phone number and even dialled their number on my Thai cell phone. It rang for awhile and just then the hotel reception calls that I have “some guests” waiting downstairs and can he send them up? “Guests”? “Them”?- I was pretty sure that I had only reserved one Eden girl at the unbelievable great rate of 3000 Baht for the night.

While I’m wondering if I’m up to being entertained by 2 Eden girls all night, there’s a knock at the door, and it’s Bruce, the Eden papa. It turns out that my lady had come to the hotel on time, but they claimed that they didn’t know me, even though I had given Bruce my room number that afternoon. So the woman had called Bruce at the club and he had come over to the Sheraton, to smooth things over with the front desk. What service!!!! Eden never ceases to amaze me. No anxiety is involved since there's no need to contemplate if the FL or bargirl will provide good service once back at the hotel. This is an Eden girl, good service is more or less guaranteed, they're trained in the erotic arts, are kinky and experienced and at that price for an all night stay is just an unbelievable deal. . Even with a tip of 500 Baht for the lady at the end of the night, it still works out to about $115 USD for the night.

“Orchid” (I later heard from a fellow ISGer that she also goes by the name Nok) was a well, well trained nympho, with nice man-made bolt ons, heavily inked and a voracious undaunted appetite for sex, and more sex, and more sex and more…. insatiable. At one point, I had to ask her to let me rest for awhile, and she was able to restrain herself for all of 20 minutes. She hadn’t eaten so I ordered in some room service for the 2 of us at some point in the middle of the night and that’s about the only time during the night that her mouth was full of something other than me…. At about 10 in the morning, I asked her if she shouldn’t be going, to which she just answered by diving down back under the covers. Just an unbelievable night. She left a little after 11, and would have stayed until she had to go back to Eden. While the thought was very tempting, I was a wreck, and had a full day’s worth of activities scheduled, so I asked her to go. Still, more than 12 hours with a woman like that for $115 USD is just amazing.

[Iseeu]

continued from part i:
friday evening: “n”

after the business dinner at a really nice french restaurant, tll #1 “n” showed up at my hotel at about 10:30, and she was hotter than her pictures. she’s a consultant for the legitimate spa industry, travels abroad for business, and is looking to open up her own. smart, educated lady, mid 20’s, never married, no kids (this in itself is unique as the vast majority of the tll ladies have kid in tow). we had begun by chatting on tll, moved to msn, and been writing to each other every day for about 3 weeks prior to my trip. at one point, i had asked her, what she would like to do after we go for a drink, and she coyly responded, “i want the same thing that you do.” we went to the sheraton jazz bar for drinks, and n tells me that the piano player (a huge black guy) is married to her “sister”, only they don’t recognize each other. any way we’re sitting and chatting, with me taking every opportunity for some light touches, and i’m not really getting back the same vibe from her. i told her that i have a box of chocolates for her upstairs in my room, and she said, “so go and get it for me…” wrong answer.

after about 2 hours of this, we begin smooching, but no dfk and n remained entirely on her own seat. i begin thinking that maybe it’s time to send her on her way and wondering if i can still get in touch with dark vader. i ask her what she would like to do now, expecting the same answer that she gave me online. instead she says, “let’s go get massages.” i was a little surprised, but she said that she knows a very good place where we can get good oily massages together in the same room. “hmmm”, i think, “she wants to get naked with me in the same room. that works for me.” when we get to the spa, there are 2 masseuse’s available, a man and a woman. i refuse to be handled by a man so she has to be handled by him, which is even better. there ensued side by side very good oily massages, with lots of almost touching of the genitals, no direct stimulation of the boys, but everything wide open and visible. i peeked over at n on the table, her nice breasts visible from the side, the sheet barely covering her pert ass, her legs wide open affording her guy masseuse a good look at her lower attributes. this massage was a great idea. after they were done the 2 masseuse left the room for us to continue relaxing. i pulled her massage table over to mine, and the festivities began. she was so horny from the massage (needless to say, i’m always horny). we made out, and i stuck my 2 fingers inside her sopping p*ssy and gave n her 1st o of the night.

back to the sheraton, where for the next 8 hours, we made love interspersed with dozing off. she had a lovely wiry bush, was a little naïve about some things and had never been orally stimulated, but was willing to try anything including some a fun. i had a business appointment at 10 a.m.. n wanted to stay in the room and wait for me, but i had other plans for the rest of the day including an afternoon tryst with tll lady #2 “k”, so i pleaded business commitments and after breakfast walked her on her way with a vague promise to meet again on sunday depending on my “business” commitments.

[Iseeu]

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Bangkok Bangs

It’s taken me a long while to write this report since my visit in late September, and since I don’t take notes some of the details may be a little sketchy, but the bottom line remains the same. Bangkok Bangs!!

Reading back over the last year’s posts, one gets the impression that the BKK scene has suffered for the worst and is no longer the R&R capital of the world. To be fair, BKK regulars who live here or visit on a regular basis will have a more disconcerting eye and a larger data base of experiences, and perhaps are jaded by having too much of a good thing on their doorstep. But as an occasional visitor, and for very brief visits (sometimes for only a couple of hours) each time, I have to say, that the easy availability of willing hot women of all types remains unbelievable. IMHO, BKK still is an unparallelled adult amusement park with a variety of sexy attractions, and it maintains its status as one of the most affordable mongering destinations in the developed (well BKK remains remarkably underdeveloped amidst its continuous development) world.

I apologize at the outset for the length of this report. It was just too outstanding of a trip to skimp on the details and besides writing this all down, will help me remember the amazing time that I had when my memory begins to fade.

The Prep

On an extended Asian business trip I needed to be in town for an important meeting which was scheduled for Saturday to accommodate my travel schedule. But since I didn’t need to be back in the US until Monday afternoon, I was able to squeeze out a couple of days for hobbying. I read through about a year’s ( more or less since my last visit) worth of the forum’s multiple Bangkok threads including a lot of the inane back-biting that goes on here amongst some of the regulars, and tried to decode everything going down on Giotto’s thread. As a regular poster on other ISG threads I’ve come to realize the value of following the knowledge of the mongers with experience on the local scene, and the BKK threads are ripe with sage advice. I was lucky to find out that Mick Licker would be in town on my last day in BKK and we arranged to meet on Sunday at Livingstone's Lodge. Dark Vader, a frequent monger in Germany, who shares my affinity for German partytreffs, would also be in town at the beginning of my trip and we also arranged to have a drink together at LL.

Unfortunately, I wouldn’t be staying at LL since my company has corporate deals with a number of the big chains and it’s just less of a hassle to let my travel coordinator book me into one of those. I chose to stay at the Sheraton Grande, which is centrally located to the fun including Soi Cowboy, not too far from LL, has a great jazz bar for dates, and is very girl friendly.

The Planning

On previous trips, I’ve barfined NEP and Soi Cowboy girls, been to Annies and Darling, picked up some Biergarden ladies, had happy-ending massages in a couple of places, and discovered the joys of Eden. In fact on my last trip, which was just a short layover of about 6 hours, I took a taxi straight from the airport to Eden, had a bone- crunching double Eden session, and then took a taxi, which deposited me in a very sorry state right back to the airport. This time I would be in town for 62 hours, so armed with the accumulated knowledge and wisdom of my mongering brethren and Mick Licker’s learned opinion, I created a short list:

· Annie’s

· Nataree

· Tulip

· Eden lady takeout

· Biergarden survey

· Soi Cowboy hottie barfine

A friend who knows my history and predilections, also put me in contact with a couple that organizes swinger parties in the BKK area with a mixture of Thai and westerners. It looked very well done and properly arranged, and received some glowing reports from other Western men that had attended their parties in the past so I pencilled that in for one night’s activities.

I like to mix up my experiences, and I’ve had great experiences in the past with Asian freebies particularly in China and Singapore, so I also signed up for Thailand Love Links and was instantly inundated with “someone’s interested in you” messages. I whittled them down to a short list of 10, and began emailing, but that became too time- consuming, so I whittled some more and eventually made dates with 2 of the hottest, and it seemed from their instant messaging and chat , the most open to fun on a first date. More on that later.

The Final Plan

As my trip approached, it became apparent, I would be seriously overextended to fit all of the above coupled with my work commitments into 62 hours. I was also wary of sensory overload- too much of a good thing can deaden the senses, and lessen the enjoyment of subsequent sessions. Then, the company that I was meeting with on Saturday insisted that they take me to dinner on Friday evening and then one of the TLL ladies let me know that she would only be available on Friday night. So, I had to apologize to Dark Vader and cancel our swing through Soi Cowboy on Friday, move my Eden takeout to Saturday and cancel, with a very heavy heart, my attendance at the swinger party planned for Saturday night. Choices, Choices- So many women to f*ck and so little time to do them all.

If you’re trying to keep score, this was my finalized plan as I drove into town from the airport at 4 p.m. Fri. afternoon:

· Friday: Evening- business dinner;Night- drinks and ??? with TLL lady #1

· Saturday: Morning- business meeting and lunch;Afternoon- Annie’s followed by Biergarten; Late afternoon+ early evening- Dinner and ??? with TLL lady #2; Night: Eden Takeaway

· Sunday: Morning- Nataree; Afternoon- Meet with Mick Licker; Evening- Dinner and ??? with TLL #1 or #2

· Monday: Leave hotel at 5:00 a.m. for early flight

Thus rarin to go, I arrived in BKK central late on Friday afternoon. See how the plan came together in my next posts…

[Virgin Lover]

So should I stay near Patpong, or Nana? based on the reports leaning towards Nana?

What hotels, and any recommendations to find the services I seek would be greatly appreciated.

TCThis is my first post, but just returned from LOS. I enjoyed the President Solitaire hotel off Nana. It's a few blocks walk off of Sukumvit on Soi 11, but the rooms are very quiet and huge. I hear they are Girl Friendly, but didn't have time to test that out.

[Centaurus]

I understand why Tulip is high on ML's list and how Dao has become a popular destination in her own right. Message to self for next visit: "does she do takeaway?Yes, takeout in Tulip is 1000 to the shop and the normal rate to the girl (plus taxi or tip). She doesn't have to go back after 9pm from a takeout, so you can negotiate overnights (got quotes of 3000 which would include the initial session price). They are available for swinging, but there the pricing is more nebulous (everything from OK NO PROBLEM to a surcharge of 500 if you switch girls with one partner to a full additional 1500 because TWO DICKS TWO PRICES hehe). 24 hours cost 3000 to the shop and something like 5000 to the lady.

Great reports you are putting up here!

Do you remember the name of the massage place? That's a wonderful idea, and the fact that they have rooms for two and that the masseurs leave you afterwards to play shows me that the Thais are being creative here. I now understand much better the gorgeous thai couples that I saw in the non-sexual massage place I went to.

Also, please rate yourself on a scale of 1-10 LOL. I'd like to get a realistic idea on that Thai Love links scheme that seems to work well for you. Alternatively I'll just pm ML who knows both of us.

[Giotto]

We just talked to the police, and the result is a bit surprising:

The bars in the entertainment areas are in general asked to close from 14th to 16th November 2009. That includes the Patpong, Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy bars.

Livingstone's is (as usual) not considered to just be a bar. We are allowed to open all 3 days, we are also allowed to sell alcohol in our restaurant / lounge. We are asked not to play any louder music outside around the pool on the 15th and switch off the neons at the entrance that day.

That looks somehow suspicious to me, possibly this police guys want to do us a favour and will ask for a "favour" too during this days. Here at Livingstone's we will operate those days as follows:

14th and 16th: Restaurant and Lounge open, business as usual, alcohol available, classical music around the pool, waiters and girls dressed in black

15th: Restaurant open, Lounge will be used as aircon restaurant, alcohol only sold to foreigners (we would appreciate if foreign customers did not order alcoholic drinks), classical music outside and inside on a very low sound level, no dancing or any kind of fun action inside the bar, waiters and girls dressed in black.

We will show respect, it's the cremation of the sister of HMTK. We expect our customers to behave accordingly.


Giotto

[Iseeu]

Do you remember the name of the massage place? That's a wonderful idea, and the fact that they have rooms for two and that the masseurs leave you afterwards to play shows me that the Thais are being creative here. I now understand much better the gorgeous thai couples that I saw in the non-sexual massage place I went to.
N gave directions to the cab drivers in Thai so I really have no idea what it was called, but I did notice that we drove down Wireless Road and made a right at the park, so I would guess that we were somewhere near Silom.


Also, please rate yourself on a scale of 1-10 LOL. I'd like to get a realistic idea on that Thai Love links scheme that seems to work well for you.
You're kidding, right? Me- just you're average porn star with a huge shlong, LOL

I'm just an average middle-aged Joe, with a growing paunch and thinning hair. I've had similar success on other similar sites in other countries and find that the key is in the profile rather than the looks in the picture as long as you're not a deformed freak. Don't promise anything that can't be disavowed later or put up a picture from 20 years ago on your profile since they will remember everything that you write about yourself if you do actually meet up.

In the end, they're all after a Western husband/BF who is family friendly and would provide a comfortable home since most of them have a child that they want to ensure will have a chance at a better life, isn't a weirdo, and sounds slightly romantic to at least give them the feeling that there's an actual courtship going on. You'll get many more responses if you post a picture or two in your profile but the key, if you don't fit that bill, is to hone up your creative writing skills, and you'll be as inundated as I was with replies.

[FreebieFan]

I'm often setting myself up for delights both in BKK, Jakarta, Manila and ocassionally HK.

Like you I can't resist the hunt/chase for the next one and when the deed is done, already thinking how to lose the current one and move onto the next one. GREAT GREAT reports man. I could feel my energy levels decline as you made your way through all that pussy. I know how I am after 48 hours and the word drained only begins to start to decribe. However drained we are tho. The fight continues and we still hunt.

Thanks for a great report. Hope you have "recovered"!

[Mouse1]

We just talked to the police, and the result is a bit surprising:

The bars in the entertainment areas are in general asked to close from 14th to 16th November 2009. That includes the Patpong, Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy bars. Just spoke to the Eden Club, and they are closed on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

[Lai Chicago]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I will be in Bangkok for the 1st time from 11/13-11/15 for 36hrs. So, I have come up with a game plan for what I would do to maximize my experience. I have been reading the forum for a long time now. So, I have the following to get some of the unique experience.

Eden for the 2 girl experience.

Nataree for the soapy massage experience.

Soi Cowboy, not too sure about it as I am a bit shy.

Is there any experience and establishment I should visit?

[M P Lurker]

Just spoke to the Eden Club, and they are closed on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
I would be suprised if some of the MPs didn't have girls available for takeout. So ring up and ask if your regular girl might be available. Many MP web sites list a Mobile contact number beginning 08 xxx xxxx.

So those guys like me with a good collection of Gik numbers, there would not be much problem with bars and MPs closed. The bar girls and MP girls still want to make money.

I can foresee Giotto's Lodge Sports Bar being very crowded with guys waiting for drinks and Sukhumwit road crowded with SWs.

[Boccaccio]

Hello everybody,

I have been in BKK two times and enjoyed both trips a lot. My favorites: Tulip, Annie's, Suzie Wong, Dollhouse and Shark. I never tried the Eden Club (but I'd like to), I don't like Patpong (a real shithole) and I don't feel much at home in NEP (a bit scary). This time I would also like to try Pattaya so I have a question: what's a fair price to pay to a taxi driver to get ther from BKK (Thong Lor, to be more precise)?

Another question is: I've heard rumors about the fact that Viagra, Cialis and so on lately have been classified as "drugs" by the thai law. Is that true or hype?

Thank you in advance.

[Retired Army]

Hello everybody,

I have been in BKK two times and enjoyed both trips a lot. My favorites: Tulip, Annie's, Suzie Wong, Dollhouse and Shark. I never tried the Eden Club (but I'd like to), I don't like Patpong (a real shithole) and I don't feel much at home in NEP (a bit scary). This time I would also like to try Pattaya so I have a question: what's a fair price to pay to a taxi driver to get ther from BKK (Thong Lor, to be more precise)?

Thank you in advance.



If you think Patpong is a shithole wait until you see Pattaya.

[Mark17]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I will be in Bangkok for the 1st time from 11/13-11/15 for 36hrs. So, I have come up with a game plan for what I would do to maximize my experience. I have been reading the forum for a long time now. So, I have the following to get some of the unique experience.

Eden for the 2 girl experience.

Nataree for the soapy massage experience.

Soi Cowboy, not too sure about it as I am a bit shy.

Is there any experience and establishment I should visit?Try Tulip for a good all around massage experience

[Amjeck]

what's a fair price to pay to a taxi driver to get ther from BKK (Thong Lor, to be more precise)
1200 baht max. can prob get it for 1000 baht.

[ThaiLearner]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I will be in Bangkok for the 1st time from 11/13-11/15 for 36hrs. So, I have come up with a game plan for what I would do to maximize my experience. I have been reading the forum for a long time now. So, I have the following to get some of the unique experience.

Eden for the 2 girl experience.

Nataree for the soapy massage experience.

Soi Cowboy, not too sure about it as I am a bit shy.

Is there any experience and establishment I should visit?


You may not have much luck as alot of places will be closed 14-16 November

[Beagleface]

Just returned. Some comments and questions--

1. SW scene isn't bad at all. 2-3 of my best times came from SWs. Across from Landmark Hotel and across from Nana Plaza. 1000 baht ST, got one good BJ for 800 baht. There's some frightening looking SW's but I simply avoid them.

2. Had confusing experiences with LT. One very nice SW did ST with me and agreed over the phone to LT for next day. But, I think we got confused about price and hours. We sort of agreed in bad English for 8pm to 4AM for 2000 baht, but I think she only wanted to do 4 hours for that price. What's the going rate for LT--in terms of price and hours? Think she wanted 2000 for 8pm to midnite which was OK by me. Anyway, said she wanted to leave and I let her go--she was negotiating, methinks, but I let her go because I thought she just didn't want to spent LT with 240 pound 47 year old. Think she just wanted more money. She was hot. Stupid me.

3. While I was with girl above, received text from girl from Lucky Luke's. Said she was available for LT. Said 2000 baht plus 500 bar fine. At hotel we chat a bit, then boom boom, then she says, What are you going to do now? She wants to sleep. I say it is 10: 30, what the hell are you talking about? She goes under covers to sleep. Is she negotiating for more money? (She had seen me pull out a big wad of bills at Lucky Luke's--stupid me! ) She seems to think LT means one boom boom and sleep. We start fighting, I eventually give her 1700 baht to LEAVE. She does after a lot of arguing about money, but I was angry.

So wind up with 2 agreed LT's for same nite and wind up sleeping alone!

4. Spent 9 days in BKK, and I didn't try for as many LTs as I should have. Many girls told me ST OK but no LT--is this because I weigh 240 pounds and am 47 years old? Worst part--my gogo dream girl from NP agrees to LT. 4000 baht, I don't complain. Boom boom, her period starts, blood on the sheets, blood on towels, she has to leave. I want to cry.

Anyone comment on the standard LT situation please? 4 hours? 6? Number of boom booms? For what its worth, I think you get better value from SW than massage parlors. If and when I return, I won't do any MPs but will go for LT and SW's.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[M P Lurker]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I will be in Bangkok for the 1st time from 11/13-11/15 for 36hrs. So, I have come up with a game plan for what I would do to maximize my experience. I have been reading the forum for a long time now. So, I have the following to get some of the unique experience.

Eden for the 2 girl experience.

Nataree for the soapy massage experience.

Soi Cowboy, not too sure about it as I am a bit shy.

Is there any experience and establishment I should visit?
You didn't say what time you arrive on 13th.

Ring places before 14th to check about take out on 14th due to many closures on 14/15/16.
Do Soi Cowboy and/or Nataree on 13th.

Try to do Eden and Tulip takeouts after that would be my approach. Try to pick girls highly recommended in the MP thread with a thread search for Eden and also for Tulip.

Consider Giotto's Lodge Sports Bar or girls on Sukhumvit road.

Map with phone numbers:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&ll=13.741219,100.56138&spn=0.058112,0.075102&z=14

[Lai Chicago]

You may not have much luck as alot of places will be closed 14-16 NovemberAre most of the MP closed b/w 14-16? that would be sad.

[Papae Noel]

[quote=iseeu]continued from part i:
friday evening: “n”

after the business dinner at a really nice french restaurant, tll #1 “n” showed up at my hotel at about 10:30, and she was hotter than her pictures. she’s a consultant for the legitimate spa industry, travels abroad for business, and is looking to open up her own. smart, educated lady, mid 20’s, never married, no kids (this in itself is unique as the vast majority of the tll ladies have kid in tow). we had begun by chatting on tll, moved to msn, and been writing to each other every day for about 3 weeks prior to my trip. at one point, i had asked her, what she would like to do after we go for a drink, and she coyly responded, “i want the same thing that you do.” we went to the sheraton jazz bar for drinks, and n tells me that the piano player (a huge black guy) is married to her “sister”, only they don’t recognize each other. any way we’re sitting and chatting, with me taking every opportunity for some light touches, and i’m not really getting back the same vibe from her. i told her that i have a box of chocolates for her upstairs in my room, and she said, “so go and get it for me…” wrong answer.

after about 2 hours of this, we begin smooching, but no dfk and n remained entirely on her own seat. i begin thinking that maybe it’s time to send her on her way and wondering if i can still get in touch with dark vader. i ask her what she would like to do now, expecting the same answer that she gave me online. instead she says, “let’s go get massages.” i was a little surprised, but she said that she knows a very good place where we can get good oily massages together in the same room. “hmmm”, i think, “she wants to get naked with me in the same room. that works for me.” when we get to the spa, there are 2 masseuse’s available, a man and a woman. i refuse to be handled by a man so she has to be handled by him, which is even better. there ensued side by side very good oily massages, with lots of almost touching of the genitals, no direct stimulation of the boys, but everything wide open and visible. i peeked over at n on the table, her nice breasts visible from the side, the sheet barely covering her pert ass, her legs wide open affording her guy masseuse a good look at her lower attributes. this massage was a great idea. after they were done the 2 masseuse left the room for us to continue relaxing. i pulled her massage table over to mine, and the festivities began. she was so horny from the massage (needless to say, i’m always horny). we made out, and i stuck my 2 fingers inside her sopping p*ssy and gave n her 1st o of the night.

back to the sheraton, where for the next 8 hours, we made love interspersed with dozing off. she had a lovely wiry bush, was a little naïve about some things and had never been orally stimulated, but was willing to try anything including some a fun. i had a business appointment at 10 a.m.. n wanted to stay in the room and wait for me, but i had other plans for the rest of the day including an afternoon tryst with tll lady #2 “k”, so i pleaded business commitments and after breakfast walked her on her way with a vague promise to meet again on sunday depending on my “business” commitments.[/quotefirst of all, this is my first post here on the forum. greetings to all. i've read the reports over the last couple of years, but tonight, your reporting of the massage parlor for him and her sort of intrigues me. perhaps your gal friend was doing all of the instructions to the taxi, but if you remember anything at all about the name address it would be appreciated immensely. what was the cost?

[NicFrenchy]

2. Had confusing experiences with LT. One very nice SW did ST with me and agreed over the phone to LT for next day. But, I think we got confused about price and hours. We sort of agreed in bad English for 8pm to 4AM for 2000 baht, but I think she only wanted to do 4 hours for that price. What's the going rate for LT--in terms of price and hours? Think she wanted 2000 for 8pm to midnite which was OK by me. Anyway, said she wanted to leave and I let her go--she was negotiating, methinks, but I let her go because I thought she just didn't want to spent LT with 240 pound 47 year old. Think she just wanted more money. She was hot. Stupid me.

In my limited experience with SW, they usually ask for 1,000 ST but I offer them 500 and another 500 tip if the sex is good. Most girls accept this deal and she would have to be very bad for me not to pay the 500 tip.
ST is usually never above 2 hours and always 1 pop.

For LT, I think you can get away with 2,000 for all night however, I have heard lately from a friend that some girls charge by the hour: 1,000 for every 2 hours adn you get 1 pop for every 2 hours.
Normally the minimum is 2 pops (1 in the night, 1 in the morning).


3. While I was with girl above, received text from girl from Lucky Luke's. Said she was available for LT. Said 2000 baht plus 500 bar fine. At hotel we chat a bit, then boom boom, then she says, What are you going to do now? She wants to sleep. I say it is 10: 30, what the hell are you talking about? She goes under covers to sleep. Is she negotiating for more money? (She had seen me pull out a big wad of bills at Lucky Luke's--stupid me! ) She seems to think LT means one boom boom and sleep. We start fighting, I eventually give her 1700 baht to LEAVE. She does after a lot of arguing about money, but I was angry.

You should have given her only 1,000 for the ST and told her you would go and complain to the bar the next day. Some bars would usually refund your barfine or give you a free barfine for your next girl.


Many girls told me ST OK but no LT--is this because I weigh 240 pounds and am 47 years old?

No way. Girls love older men because of their low sex drive. My regulars tell me they love old guys because they cannot boom boom long time and only can 1 time.
I guess she must hate me for coming 3 times in 2 hours :D

[NicFrenchy]

Are most of the MP closed b/w 14-16? that would be sad.

Yes, it looks like it

[NicFrenchy]

If you think Patpong is a shithole wait until you see Pattaya.

I second that.

[M P Lurker]

..../QUOTEFirst of all, this is my first post here on the forum. Greetings to all. I've read the reports over the last couple of years, but tonight, your reporting of the massage parlor for him and her sort of intrigues me. Perhaps your gal friend was doing all of the instructions to the taxi, but if you remember anything at all about the name address it would be appreciated immensely. What was the cost?
You can probably re-edit your post to include the missing square close bracket before "First of all"

[Tiger 888]

You can probably re-edit your post to include the missing square close bracket before "First of all"Unfortunately he can't. Only senior members can. He will need to ask Jackson to do this.

[M P Lurker]

Unfortunately he can't. Only senior members can. He will need to ask Jackson to do this.
Whoops, I thought we were nearly all old enough to be senior members ;) and I wasn't familiar with seniors getting extra benefits :)

[Giotto]

...
No way. Girls love older men because of their low sex drive. My regulars tell me they love old guys because they cannot boom boom long time and only can 1 time.
...Mick Licker,

What do you think - should we meet this bestard again at the Lodge, extract his balls and give them to the ducks :) ?


Giotto

[Lai Chicago]

You didn't say what time you arrive on 13th.

Ring places before 14th to check about take out on 14th due to many closures on 14/15/16.
Do Soi Cowboy and/or Nataree on 13th.

Try to do Eden and Tulip takeouts after that would be my approach. Try to pick girls highly recommended in the MP thread with a thread search for Eden and also for Tulip.

Consider Giotto's Lodge Sports Bar or girls on Sukhumvit road.

Map with phone numbers:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&ll=13.741219,100.56138&spn=0.058112,0.075102&z=14Thanks for the advice. I am thinking about the same thing.

I will be arriving Bangkok on 13th around noon time, so I will probably pop by Eden and talk to Bruce about takeout. I have searched the thread for girl recommendation already. Looks like there is no one girl that really pop up. You have any suggestion?

On 13th itself, I will probably stop by Nataree, and if up for it, Tulip as well.

Now, I just need to figure out what to do on 13th day time.

[Phil Istine]

Went to Beer Garden last night, only a couple of lookers I thought. Then hung around the beer bars on nana and once again encountered girls who must be free lancers claiming that there is a 600 baht bar fine.

Chatted with a lovely 22 year old miaow at the car park entrance, she wanted 1000 short time which may have been worth it.

Anyway, I had bought coals from Cambodia and couldn't indulge.

But I will be back in a few days and well see what pops up.

[M P Lurker]

mick licker,
what do you think - should we meet this bestard again at the lodge, extract his balls and give them to the ducks :) ?
giotto
well i thought only the ladies were into feeding the ducks.

i do feel sorry for giotto though whose mrs tries to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) him many times per day and no doubt complains that she doesn't get enough :) i have never a had women with such sex drive on a long term basis (only for duration of a tulip booking), so i can't possibly know what its like.

i don't have low sex desire, its more like the inability to shoot umpteen times in a 2 hour period like the young ones.
but i usually have to boom boom long time before coming.
so really, a girl compatible with me should be slow to get there too, or very happy to come several times.

girls like me because i am willing to take two or three girls to spread the workload so they don't have to boom boom such a long time.

usually i try to do 4 to 5 girls in first 24 hours in thailand and drop back to sex only twice a day after that while in mongering mode. its not many days in los with no sex at all (usually happens when with a gf but its her period).

low sex drive sets in only when faced with a very ugly (ordinary) lineup and this happened to me one day on this last trip. nic will know where. not ll of course!

all the girls seem to tell me they like older guys too! but they politely usually give me different reasons. if they told me "less work on the bed" i would happy to prove them wrong!
normally the reason is: older men aren't so full of themselves, treat the girl with more respect, and of course pay better.

many girls who don't want to do lt are persuadable if the money is right. so its sometimes an economic decision.
on the other hand some won't do it regardless of the money, so in that case, it means they have a family that must be returned to each night.

[Opebo]

Anyone comment on the standard LT situation please? 4 hours? 6? Number of boom booms? For what its worth, I think you get better value from SW than massage parlors. If and when I return, I won't do any MPs but will go for LT and SW's.


I've never taken a girl long time, of course (who wants to be around one that long?), but it should certainly be a lot longer than 4-6 hours, particularly at the disturbing rates you are talking about. It is considered to be 'overnight', so something like 12 hours is reasonable. I don't think there is any set limit on the number of inseminations, but I suppose that would depend somewhat on if you are a 'sixty minute man' or something less. Even for hour-long boom-booms an overnight priced at 2,000 baht should include several automatically - that is a lot of money.

If a girl asked, as NicFrenchy reports, a certain rate for every two hours or allows only a certain number of ejaculations per two hour period, I would definitely advise ending negotiations with that girl and moving on. I appreciate the benefits of a clear understanding but two many rules imposed by someone who is just selling pussy is unreasonable and a turnoff.

Keep in mind the way it is supposed to work here is she feels grateful and wais when you give her the appropriate amount after she has fully pleased you, not that you have to beg her for services/time like back home. Even in Bangkok, even in 2008, there is no need to put up with so much nonsense - happily the economy is getting worse and we are being put, however temporarily, back in a position of some power.

[Member #3428]

Even in Bangkok, even in 2008, there is no need to put up with so much nonsense - happily the economy is getting worse and we are being put, however temporarily, back in a position of some power.

With the poor world economy and lowering of tourism to LOS you should be happy as I expect locals are getting better value or better service for prices paid.

However... in typical form I have found that the girls who are working the tourist areas are upping their price and "Joe the visitor" is paying it.

I wish every visitor had to read this forum or a post on pricing before they go as the numbers I'm hearing is crazy. And I spend generously as it is.

But even I'm shocked by what I am hearing. I don't mind paying a fee then adding on top for good service but the figures I've been first offered since the beginning of the year and now are just going up and up.

I'm back in town in a few more days and my mate told me about a girl who wanted 6,000 from soi cowboy last weekend and he rightly so laughed in her face and she quickly came straight down. But there is a reason she is asking so high.. because some idiots are paying it or considering it.

[NicFrenchy]

Mick Licker,

What do you think - should we meet this bestard again at the Lodge, extract his balls and give them to the ducks :) ?


Noooooo... don't shoot the messenger! LOL

[Giotto]

...
i do feel sorry for giotto though whose mrs tries to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) him many times per day and no doubt complains that she doesn't get enough :) i have never a had women with such sex drive on a long term basis (only for duration of a tulip booking), so i can't possibly know what its like.
...
mick licker,

thanks for feeling sorry for me. i really suffer a lot :) .


giotto

[Master 69]

Bangkok story

Departure

I made plans to visit Bangkok for pleasure with my three friends. Thier names were saeed, ali, and khalid. Our age group is 33 to 36 years old. We are very close friends and share our sex experience with eachother. They have not visited Bangkok before. But they had heard stories from me, as I have visited Thailand many times. We got visas from thai consulate easily, in two days. And booked our seats on thai airways. Our flight time was 12:30 am in the midnight. It was around 6-7 hours all night flight. We left home around 8 pm and reached airport 3 hours before our flight. We checked in our baggage and got our boarding pass. We asked for seats at the last row in aircraft. After clearing our passports from immigration, we went to airport bar for a drink. There we wished for our pleasure trip and for Bangkok girls, we were going to have fun with. We made some shopping at dutyfree shop for scotch whisky black label. Everyone bought two bottles each. After that we went to the aircraft. The flight took off on right time. After take off, we were served drinks and food. The thai airhostess were wearing sexy dress, and when they walk through we can see their naked legs. Thai airways offered good service. We watched movie and slept after having lot of beers and food. And had sweet and sexy dreams for coming days (nights).

Arrival

Our flight arrived early in the morning and we cleared immigration and customs very swiftly. And came out of airport and went to taxi area, to go to the hotel. It was 8 am local time in morning. We had already made booking for grace hotel on internet. We booked four rooms linked with each other, so we can move easily to eachother rooms. The weather was hot in Bangkok. We hired a van from taxi booth. It had aircon and mini fridge. It was enough big for ten passengers. They charged 600 bath to the hotel. The taxi fare was 300 bath, but our luggage could not fixed with us in one taxi. The van driver presented us perfumed cold towel. And offered us beer from the fridge. It was complimentry and included in fare. We had early morning beer. The van driver was very friendly. He talked with us about thai girls. And offered us to take to Pattaya. We had plans to go there, so we got his mobile number. There was not much traffic on roads in morning time. And van driver used expressway. We reached the hotel in 20 minutes.

After check in hotel, we went straight to the rooms. Our rooms were booked in new building. We paid 1200 bath for room rent for one night including all taxes. The hotel offered us special price because we booked four rooms for a week. The rooms were big and have nice setting. There was 25" flat tv and dvd player in the room. There was one king size double and one single bed in each room. The side table was fitted with tv remote, music radio and alarm clock. The mini-bar fridge was fitted under the tv table. The room has two sofas and one small dining table near window. The room was fitted with mirrors on two sides and on the cieling. So you can see yourself when fucking thai chickens. The bathroom was fitted with bath tub enough for two and shower. A small tray was filled with shampoo, bath gel, razor kit, and mini toothbrush pack and perfumed soaps. All the rooms were on road side and near swimming pool. I had hot water shower. I asked room service to take every thing from the mini bar. Always, I buy drinks and food from supermarket near hotel, because it is cheaper than hotel prices.

The security of grace hotel is very good. When we take girls into our rooms, the secuirty guards take id from girl, and keep it with him. The security desk is near lifts. Any girl can not go to the room without security check. When girl leave in morning, the secuirty guard phone in the room and asked about evrything is ok. When we say yes, the secuirty give back her id. And more, each floor has a room service counter near lifts. We do not need to phone room maid to clean the room. We can get towels, extra pillows and water and other things from them. Even sometime, you can have condoms and porno dvd. Two ladies are at service counter 24 hours.

We all friends were tired from night flight, so we deiceded that we take rest until afternoon. I took hot water shower and slept. My friends made me wake up around 3 pm. I had bathed and changed my clothes.

I had visited Bangkok many times so my friends made me leader of our group. We went outside to move around the hotel area. And had our late lunch in arabic restaurant. After lunch, we went to foodland supermarket to buy drinks and other things. The foodland supermarket was near to the hotel and opened 24 hours. We bought beers and chocolates, snacks, fruits, milk, mouth wash (listrene) and other items. And we came back to the hotel. We all gathered in my room and made plans for our first night in Bangkok. We decided that we would not sleep alone but with a pretty girl every night. And would share our ideas, and experience with eachother, next morning. After this, we went to the rooms to take rest. It was 5 pm. We made plans to go out for pussies around 10 pm.

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[Mouse1]

I'm back in town in a few more days and my mate told me about a girl who wanted 6,000 from soi cowboy last weekend and he rightly so laughed in her face and she quickly came straight down. But there is a reason she is asking so high.. because some idiots are paying it or considering it.Wasn't it ever thus? I spent 12 hours recently on a flight to the UK with an Indian gentleman who proudly told me how he had two girls in his room for a 2-hour massage, and managed to bargain them down from 10,000Bht to 9,000Bht. I complimented him on his finely-honed negotiating skills (he had an MBA)... But sooner or later many girls will meet someone who offers them outrageous sums, and that of course becomes their starting price. Doesn't mean you shouldn't negotiate, and you'll always get a better price.

My current friend happily tells me what some of her other customers pay, vastly more than me (and I am generous), but I always pay what we originally agreed. I just mentally thank them for subsidising her in my absence.

[M P Lurker]

...
Keep in mind the way it is supposed to work here is she feels grateful and wais when you give her the appropriate amount after she has fully pleased you, not that you have to beg her for services/time like back home. ....
Could any girl truelly be grateful to Opebo with his attitude ? :confused:

[Amjeck]

Wasn't it ever thus? I spent 12 hours recently on a flight to the UK with an Indian gentleman who proudly told me how he had two girls in his room for a 2-hour massage, and managed to bargain them down from 10,000Bht to 9,000Bht. I complimented him on his finely-honed negotiating skills (he had an MBA)... But sooner or later many girls will meet someone who offers them outrageous sums, and that of course becomes their starting price. Doesn't mean you shouldn't negotiate, and you'll always get a better price.


It's mind-blowing how some men grossly over pay these girls. If the guys only knew how well used and abused these girls were, I'm sure they'd stop paying johnny walker blue prices for a bottle of red, so to speak.

[Hsman71]

Anyone have good recomendation for pick up Young Thai gals in BKK city?

How much is the damage per night?

[Goyave]

Many girls told me ST OK but no LT--is this because I weigh 240 pounds and am 47 years old? Often, it's just because they (girls who don't stay LT) have a Thai boyfriend waiting them at "home".

[Beagleface]

For LT, I think you can get away with 2,000 for all night however, I have heard lately from a friend that some girls charge by the hour: 1,000 for every 2 hours adn you get 1 pop for every 2 hours.

Normally the minimum is 2 pops (1 in the night, 1 in the morning).

:D1 in PM 1 in AM is not enough! I had visions of boom boom all nite and 1 in the morning--I thought thats what LT meant. But 1000 every 2 hours aint so bad either. Yeah, I'd take that. I'm learning, thanks NicFrenchy.

[Beagleface]

Wasn't it ever thus? I spent 12 hours recently on a flight to the UK with an Indian gentleman who proudly told me how he had two girls in his room for a 2-hour massage, and managed to bargain them down from 10,000Bht to 9,000Bht. I complimented him on his finely-honed negotiating skills (he had an MBA)... But sooner or later many girls will meet someone who offers them outrageous sums, and that of course becomes their starting price. Doesn't mean you shouldn't negotiate, and you'll always get a better price.

My current friend happily tells me what some of her other customers pay, vastly more than me (and I am generous), but I always pay what we originally agreed. I just mentally thank them for subsidising her in my absence.Uk prices are: 80 pounds (4-5000 baht) for not very pretty girl, covered BJ. Some of the better escorts can go for 200 to 400 pounds--1 hour, sometimes no CIM even at that price. Just saw on web site porn star Angel Dark asking for 350 pounds/hour. FKK clubs are 50 to 75 euros just to walk thru the door, then 50 Euros for 30 minutes, another 50 Euro CIM. As long as the girl is very pretty, I have no problem with 4000 LT, but thats got to include BBBJ or no deal. Prices are relative. Think those who live in BKK may not realize how lucky they are. Vast majority of BKK girls that I saw at least not worth 4000 or even 2000. But the special ones are, to me anyway.

[Iseeu]

First of all, this is my first post here on the forum. Greetings to all. I've read the reports over the last couple of years, but tonight, your reporting of the massage parlor for him and her sort of intrigues me. Perhaps your gal friend was doing all of the instructions to the taxi, but if you remember anything at all about the name address it would be appreciated immensely. What was the cost?
Sorry, I don;t recall the name or know the address but as I've already responded it was off of Wireless going towards Silom.

Cost including 2 tips came to about 1200.

[Papae Noel]

Thanks Iseeu, That helps just having the streets and general direction.

[M P Lurker]

Noooooo... don't shoot the messenger! LOL
The girls seem to be telling different things to the Young and Old guys, so I think its just "sucking up".
But in the end they like Old guys better than Young guys, for P4P, whatever the reason.

So its bad luck for the young ones unless she has the hots for you.

As for Giotto, I am not sure that it matters that he is so grumpy and aloof, as to whether the girls will like him ;)

One girl recently at first thought I was grumpy or aloof, but later changed her mind. A good fucking session makes all the difference.

[Opebo]

Uk prices are: ...FKK clubs are ...Think those who live in BKK may not realize how lucky they are...

The prices in UK or Europe are irrelevant as the girls are not an easily transportable good due to legal/immigration issues. Though you have a point in that prices back home are relevant to the pussy whipped mentality of men coming from the West, causing them to be pathetically grateful and thus overspending.


Often, it's just because they (girls who don't stay LT) have a Thai boyfriend waiting them at "home".

No, normal Thai men would absolutely not have a prostitute girlfriend, particularly one that stoops to have sex with foreigners. If a prostitute has a 'boyfriend', he's just a pimp, and thus will have no problem with whatever activity makes money for him. Its just that for many girls long time is less profitable than doing many short times (and in any case is enormously more unpleasant).

[DG69]

But in the end they like Old guys better than Young guys, for P4P, whatever the reason.

So its bad luck for the young ones unless she has the hots for you.

As for Giotto, I am not sure that it matters that he is so grumpy and aloof, as to whether the girls will like him ;)


I would doubt that. Of course the girls value finacial stability, but if they have that than they prefer young guys.
I am now in Pattaya and I met alot of freelancer. I prefer that kind of girls, because they are more independent from the Bar working times and also no Barfine needed.
Those girls I find usually in Marine or Insomnia Disco. There are some stunning girls to find. I know from them that they not really need to work, since they have usually one or even some sponsor in Europe, Australia or the US. They send them every months some hundred or even more Dollar and with that they can have a good life. Nevertheless for them it's just boring to stay at home and so the go to the clubs, for p4p. Though those girls prefer young guys. Some of them just ignore the approach from older guys.

[NicFrenchy]

The girls seem to be telling different things to the Young and Old guys, so I think its just "sucking up".
But in the end they like Old guys better than Young guys, for P4P, whatever the reason.

So its bad luck for the young ones unless she has the hots for you.

I am under no illusion: P4P is a business and even though they are regulars of mine, they are still here to stroke my ego as much (if not more) as my dick. I am not going to fall in love as this is also pure sex on my part and they know it.

One massage girl was very jealous about the fact that I do not hide my having a few giks. You could see the disdain in her eyes and when I asked her why she cared? that I was only a customer, she said I was not only a customer and that she really loved me and she want to be my girlfriend. I was shocked as she was in tears.
Thank god it was the end of the session and needless to say I have not been back to see her. Thai girls are crazy and I feared she would hurt my dick thinking "If I am not going to have you, no one else will?". Better safe than Sorry.

[Member #3428]

Thai girls are crazy

So true...

[NicFrenchy]

1 in PM 1 in AM is not enough! I had visions of boom boom all nite and 1 in the morning--I thought thats what LT meant. But 1000 every 2 hours aint so bad either. Yeah, I'd take that. I'm learning, thanks NicFrenchy.

I suggest you try takeout from EDEN: 3,000thb from 10pm to 6am
(believe me, the girl will not allow you to sleep... at all)

Takeout from Tulip, Annies or SOL will give you similar results: No disappointments.

These 4 places are, in my eyes, the top service wise: Customer Satisfaction is guaranteed. The Mamasans/Papasans are very understanding, always open to criticism and the girls know how to fuck your brains out.

I am not a fan of Eden because the Duos are way too hardcore for my taste but takeout is fun as you get only 1 girl and she brings a lot of toys with her for a night of fun.

[Master 69]

The fun was started

I slept for five hours and woke up at 9:30 pm. I called my friends and asked them to get ready to go out. I took cold water shower and changed my clothes. We gathered in my room around 10 pm and had some scotch whisky before going out. We left hotel and went to nana plaza. Nana plaza was within 10 minutes walking distance from our hotel. This area was three storey you type building with open air bars in the center. There are lot of small bars, gogo dancing club and nude shows, around three side of the building. First of all we had some beer in the open air bar. And went upstairs to watch sex show. I had information for nana plaza on internet and visited the place on my last visit. We all went to a place called darlings. It was gogo dance and nude show bar. We paid entrance fee 200 baht each with one drink free. The bar was not full and we got table near stage. The girls were dancing, wearing only underwear and no bikini, but free boobs. We were served our drinks. It was small bottle beer cost 40 baht at supermarket. We stayed there for 30 minutes. And went to another gogo bar. Its name was chicks bottom. We paid 200 baths entry fee here, also. We went inside and ordered for beer. The waiteress, who served us, was very friendly. She gave smile to evryone. But her face beauty was little less than average, 5 out of 10. She was wearing very thin bra, we could see brown nipples of her big (36 inches size) boobs. The waiteress asked if we liked to have some girls to sit with us from dancing floor. We said ok. Then she asked us, which girls we liked to come. We looked at the floor. The girls were dancing topless (wearing no bra). The girls had number fixed on thier underwears. We told waiteress for three girls and told girls numbers. She went to the floor and pointed us to the girls. The girls came to our table and sat with us. We said Hello, to the girls. We offered them some drinks. And start talking with them. My friend ali started to rub one girls boobs. To reply ali’s action, the girl put her hands on his leg and moved slowly. Then she opened his pant zip and put her hand in his underwear. She took out his cock and kissed it. We were watching ali and smiling. The other girls kissed us deep. The girl with ali was giving massage (handjob) to his cock while ali was sucking her boobs and we were watching them. When ali was coming to blow, the girl put her mouth on top of his cock and have cum in her mouth. After that she cleaned her mouth with tissues. Other people were not watching us, because we were sitting in the corner and dark area. I put my finger in pussy of one girl and moved in and out. We kissed and tongued each other. We had good time there. Ali liked the girl and asked her to come with him and stay for full night. The girl called gogo bar manager (papasan) and we paid him 500 baht as barfine and 1500 baht for one night, for the girl. She went inside and changed her dress and came with us. She was wearing red jeans and black t-shirt. She was looking sexy with this dress. Her name was tan and she was 28 years old. We asked tan to take us to a place where we could find girls for three of us. She requested that she was hungry and wanted to eat first. Ali bought sandwhich for her from corner store 7-11. Than, tan suggestted to go a disco to find girls. We went to a disco in a taxi. We hardly fixed in taxi. The taxi was not for five people. Tan sat on ali laps. It was 15 minutes drive to disco named woodland. The entry fee was 250 bath with free 2 small bottle beer. We went inside and tan helped us to find some girls, looking nice and good body shape. She asked them to spend the night with us. They were agreed. We stayed there for 30 minutes. We were feeling hungry. We came out of disco and had some very light seafood in a thai street restaurant. And came back to our hotel in two taxis. My friend, khalid asked to gather for a few minutes and had some drinks in his room, before going to bed. We had some scotch in his room. It was nice that the girl with me could drink whisky. Most of thai girls do not drink whisky. After that I and my girl left his room and went to my room.

Coming soon part 3

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was originally written in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING and thus it was edited it to normal case lettering. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks!

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Hi Master 69,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS!

It's difficult to read and it's time consuming to fix.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

[NicFrenchy]

Coming soon part 3


God help us... make sure you make Paragraphs in your Part 3 because your posts are unreadable. Is it that hard to follow the very basics of punctuation and writing?

[Member #3428]

It was nice that the girl with me could drink whisky. Most of thai girls do not drink whisky.

Most thai girls who work in a bar or go with customers will not drink whiskey?? I must be going to the wrong bars. For some reason I keep getting girls who want lady drinks :)

You actually had some information in your post but it was very hard to read, might you be able to clean it up a little for the next time?

[DG69]

@Master69, nice to read a report from an Arab writer. It's good to see the p4p action from your point of view.
What I don't understand is that you have to pay entrance fee for a gogo Bar? Its really unusual. But, there are most likely to different standards. In Pattayas Toni Entertainment Complex I do not pay entrance fee, I just walk through and nobody bother to ask me to pay entrance fee. But, the Indian and Arab guys pay the entrance fee.

[Beagleface]

Which one is SOL? I didn't do eden but: Tulip, not so pretty girls--anyway, the 1-2 I wanted at first were both busy, maybe they were all right? Hard to tell from the pictures. The one I got was no higher than a 7, probably a 6. Annie's--really, really low quality. I saw one that was OK, went with her and it was nothing special. My best MP experiences came from Nataree--2x CIM with one pretty gal (though had stretch marks, had nice face).

What I am looking for is to get a pretty girl for probably 2 nite sessions and one AM. I got this from one 'freelancer' but took me threatening to throw her out of room and give her only 1000 baht. But the others I had didn't really want to provide more than one boom boom. I was very disappointed and expected more. Can't decide whether or not to go back to BKK. Very tempting, but would definitely go back if I knew I could get good LT from pretty girlie.


I suggest you try takeout from EDEN: 3,000thb from 10pm to 6am
(believe me, the girl will not allow you to sleep... at all)

Takeout from Tulip, Annies or SOL will give you similar results: No disappointments.

These 4 places are, in my eyes, the top service wise: Customer Satisfaction is guaranteed. The Mamasans/Papasans are very understanding, always open to criticism and the girls know how to fuck your brains out.

I am not a fan of Eden because the Duos are way too hardcore for my taste but takeout is fun as you get only 1 girl and she brings a lot of toys with her for a night of fun.

[M P Lurker]

Most of thai girls do not drink whisky. After that I and my girl left his room and went to my room.

Maybe most Thai girls are not used to drinking strong whiskey. But in most Thai clubs everyone is drinking JW Black or Chivas mixed very weak with with soda or coke/pepsi.

So it would be true to say that most Thai girls do drink whiskey, even if rather weak.

In many gogo bars the lady drink is not a whiskey drink.

[Daddy07]

I bet that was a good report you wrote.

But I didn't read it because it is just one huge paragraph.

I won't read those reports no matter how good they are.

My old eyes can't focus long enough to get me through it.

Please, next time make your post easier to read.

And, why don't you edit your last post to make it readable?

We will all appreciate it.

Thanks,
Daddy

[Mouse1]

I had 5 minutes spare and there were some interesting points in the story (not least LT with go-go dancer for 1500 Bht).

Master 69, perhaps next time you could throw in a little punctuation... ;-)

QUOTE:

I slept for five hours and woke up at 9:30 pm. I called my friends and asked them to get ready to go out. I took cold water shower and changed my clothes. We gathered in my room around 10 pm and had some Scotch whisky before going out. We left hotel and went to Nana Plaza.

Nana Plaza was within 10 minutes walking distance from our hotel. This area was three storey U-type building with open air bars in the centre. There are lot of small bars, go-go dancing club and nude shows, around three side of the building.

First of all we had some beer in the open air bar. And went upstairs to watch sex show. I had information for Nana plaza on internet and visited the place on my last visit. We all went to a place called Darlings. It was go-go dance and nude show bar. We paid entrance fee 200 baht each with one drink free. The bar was not full and we got table near stage. The girls were dancing, wearing only underwear and no bikini, but free boobs. We were served our drinks. It was small bottle beer cost 40 Baht at supermarket. We stayed there for 30 minutes. And went to another go-go bar. Its name was Chick’s Bottom. We paid 200 Baht entry fee here, also. We went inside and ordered for beer.

The waitress, who served us, was very friendly. She gave smile to everyone. But her face beauty was little less than average, 5 out of 10. She was wearing very thin bra, we could see brown nipples of her big (36 inches size) boobs. The waitress asked if we liked to have some girls to sit with us from dancing floor. We said OK. Then she asked us, which girls we liked to come. We looked at the floor. The girls were dancing topless (wearing no bra). The girls had number fixed on their underwear. We told waitress for three girls and told girls’ numbers. She went to the floor and pointed us to the girls.

The girls came to our table and sat with us. We said ‘Hello’ to the girls. We offered them some drinks. And start talking with them. My friend Ali started to rub one girl’s boobs. To reply Ali’s action, the girl put her hands on his leg and moved slowly. Then she opened his pant zip and put her hand in his underwear. She took out his cock and kissed it. We were watching Ali and smiling. The other girls kissed us deep. The girl with Ali was giving massage (hand job) to his cock while Ali was sucking her boobs and we were watching them. When Ali was coming to blow, the girl put her mouth on top of his cock and has cum in her mouth. After that she cleaned her mouth with tissues.

Other people were not watching us, because we were sitting in the corner and dark area. I put my finger in pussy of one girl and moved in and out. We kissed and tongued each other. We had good time there.

Ali liked the girl and asked her to come with him and stay for full night. The girl called go-go bar manager (papasan) and we paid him 500 Baht as barfine and 1500 Baht for one night, for the girl. She went inside and changed her dress and came with us. She was wearing red jeans and black t-shirt. She was looking sexy with this dress. Her name was Tan and she was 28 years old.

We asked Tan to take us to a place where we could find girls for three of us. She requested that she was hungry and wanted to eat first. Ali bought sandwich for her from corner store 7-11. Than, Tan suggested we go a disco to find girls. We went to a disco in a taxi. We hardly fitted in taxi. The taxi was not for five people. Tan sat on Ali’s lap. It was 15 minutes drive to disco named Woodland. The entry fee was 250 Baht with free 2 small bottle beer. We went inside and Tan helped us to find some girls, looking nice and good body shape. She asked them to spend the night with us. They were agreed. We stayed there for 30 minutes. We were feeling hungry.

We came out of disco and had some very light seafood in a Thai street restaurant. And came back to our hotel in two taxis. My friend, Khalid asked to gather for a few minutes and had some drinks in his room, before going to bed. We had some scotch in his room. It was nice that the girl with me could drink whisky. Most of Thai girls do not drink whisky. After that I and my girl left his room and went to my room.

[M P Lurker]

I bet that was a good report you wrote.

But I didn't read it because it is just one huge paragraph.

I won't read those reports no matter how good they are.

My old eyes can't focus long enough to get me through it.

Please, next time make your post easier to read.

And, why don't you edit your last post to make it readable?

We will all appreciate it.

Thanks,
Daddy
It can be easier if you compress the width of your viewing window so you only get a few words per line. Mouse1 has done a good job of fixing it up though.

[Lover Boy #2]

No, normal Thai men would absolutely not have a prostitute girlfriend, particularly one that stoops to have sex with foreigners. If a prostitute has a 'boyfriend', he's just a pimp, and thus will have no problem with whatever activity makes money for him.

100% true.....I never understand why some guys get upset when they see their "date"......get off a Thai guy's motor bike or they see the Thai guy with her at some point. This guy is a common pimp living off of her earnings....he is probably banging her without a condom too.....so if the guy is a drug addict.....more trouble!

Some of the girls do have boyfriends and husbands that live in their village, or another city. They have the guy bullshitted into believing that they are working in a restaurant in BKK or something like that....maybe the guy and the family know the truth...maybe not.....but the money flow is nice for the family....as is the new pickup truck.

I even knew of some mental case TG working in Heaven Body Massage who was living with her pimp/drug buddy.....and when she had some extra cash, fucking, bareback a gay guy from a karoke club.......and she was paying the karoke guy!! (and Opebo...these are the girls you are barebacking!!)

Thailand can be a real study in strange behavior....but pimps and prostitutes are universal.

A Thai guy with a real job would not be seen dead with a Thai sex worker.....aside from a quick screw behind a door.....he is done with her after ejaculation.

[Lover Boy #2]

We decided that we would not sleep alone but with a pretty girl every night. And would share our ideas, and experience with eachother, next morning. After this, we went to the rooms to take rest. It was 5 pm. We made plans to go out for pussies around 10 pm.

I see the beginning of a Middle East peace plan coming here. These are the universal ideas for peace.....cheap booze and cheap pussy for all.

[Lover Boy #2]

Even in Bangkok, even in 2008, there is no need to put up with so much nonsense - happily the economy is getting worse and we are being put, however temporarily, back in a position of some power.

Can anyone currently in BKK confirm this. I have heard everything is the same....prices about the same.

In Rayong, where I live, prices are still the same as say a year ago, for example. I don't see any reduction at the few bars and massage places here.

[Goyave]

No, normal Thai men would absolutely not have a prostitute girlfriend, particularly one that stoops to have sex with foreigners. If a prostitute has a 'boyfriend', he's just a pimp, and thus will have no problem with whatever activity makes money for him. Its just that for many girls long time is less profitable than doing many short times (and in any case is enormously more unpleasant).I know several girls (for instance in Bangkok and Pattaya) that won't do LT because they have a Thai boyfriend. Maybe the guy is also their pimp (very likely), but it's often a more complex situation than that.

I've heard phone conversations in Thai and several girls even admitted that the Thai man on the phone was not their brother or their cousin (as they may say at the beginning before they realized that this Farang can understand more of their dialect than they initially thought) but actually their boyfriend (or husband). Of course, the guy knows they are with a "customer". Sure, he may don't care much about it provided that their girl / girlfriend / wife earns enough money... but it's sometimes the girl herself who may want to spend the night with her pimp / boyfriend / husband. Believe it or not, they usually love their แฟน ("faen" = "significant other") and many girls often think that they have more fun with them (for instance, just because they appreciate the same things: movies / music / food, understand the same jokes, etc.).

Moreover, some girls even have young children staying at their place and don't want to spend the night elsewhere than in their own room / apartment and then, they can spend some time with them (I know at least one freelancer in Bangkok who is a young mother and won't do LT because nobody can take care of her child during nighttime).

But it's true that for many girls, one LT is just less profitable than several ST sessions and that's probably the most frequent reason. I just pointed out another valid one (among many others).

[Amjeck]

A Thai guy with a real job would not be seen dead with a Thai sex worker.....aside from a quick screw behind a door.....he is done with her after ejaculation.

This is something a lot of farang can learn from thai guys.

It blows my mind when I see farangs parading their sex workers around, taking them shopping to the movies and to go eating.

Do you really want to hang out with a dirty ***** like she is your girlfriend?

"Hit and run" all day long!

[Master 69]

1St of all, thanks to Thailand lovers. And specialy to Mouse1 for re-writing my report. My this report is around 8 years old. This was my only visit with my friends. My other visits was alone. Thats why 1500 was lt for gogo dancers.

My 1st visit was in 1985. And I was inlove with Thailand and I say East or West, Thailand is best. Although I had visted many place in fareast. But I am treated as thier son-in law. I had visted Thailand many times but I feel its my 1st visit. Wow man. At that time there was no meter taxis and you have to bargain both, ladies and taxis. Thailand has changed but not the fun.

Regarding thai ladies drinking whisky, mostly they drink ladies drink or juices in bar. It cost you and money goes to gogo bars owners. But freelancers drink beer or hard drinks in discos. But I like women who drink whisky, because it make them naughty and more sexy, and they are not shy.

I need your help that how can I make my story in small letters. Because I have typed it in capital letter. And I am not computeriesed man.

Again thanks to Mouse1.

[M P Lurker]

Do you really want to hang out with a dirty ***** like she is your girlfriend?

"Hit and run" all day long!
Amjerck,

Believe it or not, some sex workers are desperate to get a real boyfriend and help them get out of having put up with ugly asshole customers. Some guys want to help them get out too.

Why hang out with sex workers at all? Not every guy is hiring a girl's time purely for sex.

We cannot sell sex for several times our normal salary. If we could, we probably would too!
Being a great sex-worker is a great profession!

[ChiefThinker]

Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers of both LOS & PI.

I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.

I have been to LOS 3 times but never to Manila..... I however have met and played with many PI ladies in HKG.

So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?

Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.

Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.

CT

[Easy2007]

It comes back to the old old question. What women in the world do not have sex for the gain of money, gain of power, gain of influence or other material benefits?

How do you define "payment for sex"?

I know many girls who will not fuck for free, but if you take them out for a meal, drinks, moves then you can fuck them. So is this defined as prostitution, it certainly should be, however both the man and the girl like to call this "normal dating" and so allow themselves to avoid being labeled a customer and a prostitute.

If you are intelligent enough to look at sex and payment for, in a clear and concise way, and apply the simple equation that any sex, which involves giving something away which is of material gain to the girl, be it food, drinks, club entrance fee's, jewelery etc. Then this is an act of payment for sex, you start to understand the world in a clear and concise way.

I often challenge the brain dead men who say "I never pay for sex" to try the following:

Never buy your wife or girlfriend anything, never treat her to anything, never give her anything, never allow her access to your money, give her and pay for her absolutely nothing. And then see if she still wants to have regular sex with you.

Men are often so dumb they allow women to "charge for sex" in many ways, and this "transaction" is classed as "normal life".

Quite hilarious how men are often so stupid where it comes to their penis and how women have learned to use their brain to fuck men, whilst men still fuck them only with their penis.


This is something a lot of farang can learn from thai guys.

It blows my mind when I see farangs parading their sex workers around, taking them shopping to the movies and to go eating.

Do you really want to hang out with a dirty ***** like she is your girlfriend?

"Hit and run" all day long!

[Mouse1]

Do you really want to hang out with a dirty ***** like she is your girlfriend?Yeah, I do, actually. She's fun, makes me laugh, and has some interesting stories. I treat her like a friend, and we have a respectful relationship. Just went round to her apartment this evening and she prepared dinner while I opened the beers. Can honestly say that I've had less close and less mature relationships back home.

I know that when I'm not around she's working the circuit for money, and I'm doing the same for pleasure. Not sure how that makes her a 'dirty *****', and me some sort of noble creature?

[Opebo]

Can anyone currently in BKK confirm this. I have heard everything is the same....prices about the same.

In Rayong, where I live, prices are still the same as say a year ago, for example. I don't see any reduction at the few bars and massage places here.

I did not mean to imply a reduction so much as that the old standards, which were beginning to slip away recently, can now be enforced again, namely 500 baht short, 1000 baht long in Pattaya, and 1000 baht (or even slightly less), 1,500-2,000 baht long time in Bangkok. I have no idea what are prices in Rayong; I cannot imagine going there with Pattaya being on the way.

[Mouse1]

If you're in BKK you probably know this, and if you're not you probably don't care, but...

Pretty much all bars are either closed or not selling beer tonight. Soi Cowboy appeared closed from the skytrain, and NEP certainly was. Strolled back towards Soi 11 and was quite surprised to see the streets very quiet as well. Only about 5-6 girls at Nana car-park. Gullivers quite quiet and either not selling alcohol or doing it surreptitiously. Assumed beergarden would be the same, but it was heaving. Standing room only. Perhaps the only place in BKK selling beer tonight?

Paused for a small after-dinner sherry, and met two young ladies who were looking for company for the evening, at a price that seemed right. Normally I find 3-somes pretty disappointing - the fantasy is better than the reality. But these ladies got the ultimate accolade of a place in my phonebook. :-)

[Mackin]

I am not a frequent writer to this forum but do travel to Thailand at least once a year. During that time I add a report if it will add to the forum in a positive way.

I come there to have a good time and enjoy the company of the ladies. I enjoy there sence of humor and their company, and taking them to dinner. This comes along with the sex. I don't mind being seen with a lady who is working or is a freebee. Those observing me wouldn't know the difference. So I do have to disagree with those who feel they wouldn't be seen with them. Each to his own but I have enjoyed mine.

Mackin