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After Cherry had a little work done on her face, she looked better.I struggle to recall that, even when she manager of Cherry Massage. Maybe a nose job?
In Baccara, you have to realise it is the uglier group of girls with horrible boob jobs that work on the 2nd floor. Still it is very much a high surgeries bar. I do agree that Shark has some better looking girls (and Tilac is ordinary). You should have checked out the skinny nudie girls in Crazy House around the corner.
For Shark, you failed to make mention of the difference between the Coyote girls and the gogo girls. The Coyotes have 3 or 4 very pretty girls, but it is harder to see if they have boobs or not (too covered up). Anyway we can conclude from your BF price, you must have taken a gogo girl wearing a see-through outfit. You could mention if she had A-cups or the-cups and if they were natural, tall or short (you say "little") since you gave so much other detail. LOL Did she have a name at all? Or maybe that is secret? My young girl in there is called Patty and my older girl is called Maa (but still very hot). Also I know Noi since many years (from Sheba days) but she just started at Shark, last Saturday I think.Yes so sorry, it was my first TR. I'll try and get better at adding more details! A cups for sure they were, and very nice indeed. I'm a fan of natural irregardless of size. Not sure about the difference between the coyotes and gogo girls I must admit. How do you tell the difference?
Roger on the Baccara opinion too!
I struggle to recall that, even when she manager of Cherry Massage. Maybe a nose job?For sure a nose job and think she might have taken a little off the square jaw. But what a body she had. Just amazing. Thanks for sharing the pic.
I've never been to Shark in Bangkok since Shark in Pattaya doesn't have top tier girls for my taste. However, if there are more girls than Baccara I'll definitely have to check it out.
Now I'm curious. Using Baccara as a benchmark, which other BKK gogo bars, regardless of quality, have more girls than Baccara?I'm not sure if it is in fact a Benchmark or the right one if that. Just speaking from whatever my limited comfort zone experience is. When I first started frequently Cowboy I found that Baccara had more girls to suit my taste. That has since changed.
This has nothing to do with skin color. On busy nights they want all customers to buy a drink first.Right fair enough then, good to know.
Well, I would agree with Mogwai's wording of it in his earlier reply. Generally speaking, the overall reason for the door man or servers at Bacarra to point to the outside bar when you approach the doorway indicating you need to buy a drink first is because they "want" you to buy one before you go inside, walk around looking for a seat on the lower flioor, not find one, not want to go upstairs (as you don't), and accomplish nothing for the bar except bottle neck the aisle and block the view of others while you circle the bottom floor stage and eyeball the girls. They "want" you to have already bought a drink so you will resign yourself to at least taking a seat in an otherwise undesirable location until you finish it. Meanwhile, you might buy another or spot a girl worthy of a Lady Drink anyway.
In that regard it isn't generally about skin color or desirable customers vs undesirable customers.
But "wanting" isn't the same as "getting" and they will certainly ignore that expectation for some. Simply recognizing you as a regular, reliable customer might be enough for the doorman to let you in without buying a drink first while others are required to.
I don't believe I fit the ethnic or skin color profile to be considered a potential waste of their space or whatever but I have been directed to the outside bar to buy a drink first on busy nights there. But several times I have just looked at the doorman a moment, smiled, and when or if he recognizes me as a customer who has been dropping in from time to time for years he gestures for me to go right in.Fair enough as well. I don't really mind to be honest, the world is the way it is, I'm sure if I go enough they may recognize my face one day LOL! Unfortunately I fot the profile more or less but I spend fairly heavily when I do go into the bars provided I like what I see.
From my very limited observations, I've seen East Asians walk in without buying a drink, and I've seen White guys be forced to buy a drink.
I don't like to go there because it seems you can't get a good seat on the first level.
Are Indians still denied entry into Baccarra? Or are they charged cover charges?I'm not Indian but I do have darker skin. Never been denied entrance to any clubs or bars, nor have I ever been charged a cover unless that bar or club had a cover charge for everyone.
For sure a nose job and think she might have taken a little off the square jaw. But what a body she had. Just amazing. Thanks for sharing the pic.Here is another pic of Cherry and a body (not Cherry but slimilarly curvy. Sorry I don't have any nude Cherry pics).
I'm not Indian but I do have darker skin. Never been denied entrance to any clubs or bars, nor have I ever been charged a cover unless that bar or club had a cover charge for everyone.Hardly the point. He asked specifically about Baccara. Have you been in there recently without buying a drink first? Are you a regular customer there? This is not even an Indian topic. ET got it right I am sure. I might well leave after doing a circuit and being unhappy about the situation. So I am not going to buy a drink first. In most bars the situation does not arise because a reasonable seat is available, and there is no requirement to buy a drink outside.
This makes Baccara the least Farang friendly bar of the lot.
Here is another pic of Cherry and a body (not Cherry but slimilarly curvy. Sorry I don't have any nude Cherry pics).Yes, she had a nose job after that. And a very similar body and child free. Nothing at all like that in the PSE shops these days. Would appreciate seeing non-nude pics of some of the old oily gals if you have em.
Hardly the point. He asked specifically about Baccara. Have you been in there recently without buying a drink first? Are you a regular customer there? This is not even an Indian topic. ET got it right I am sure. I might well leave after doing a circuit and being unhappy about the situation. So I am not going to buy a drink first. In most bars the situation does not arise because a reasonable seat is available, and there is no requirement to buy a drink outside.
This makes Baccara the least Farang friendly bar of the lot.I go there every time I come to BKK, but I wouldn't classify myself as a regular given the total number of trips has been low. Yes I've been in there recently without buying a drink first, this is only the second time I've been asked to buy a drink. Like I said not a big deal though. I've been in there when it's been crowded and empty both alike.
Member #4698
10-29-17, 17:38
My current experience with Baccara is that the doorman will ask me to buy a drink outside, even though he knows me, when the place is full of customers, otherwise it's walk right in.
I had a onetime similar experience at CH, my current 2017 favorite Go Go, but the door opened from the inside just as I was being asked to buy a drink and my mamasan spotted me and waived me in. Other than that one time they always allow me to walk right in because they know me and know I spend money in their bar.
Another time the CH doorman tried to hit me up for a tip as I was leaving with one of my girls and we had stopped outside the bar while she chatted with her sister. I ignored him like Japanese oriented girls ignore Farangs and pretended I never heard him. He never bothered me for a tip again.
I admit I don't like being asked to buy a drink outside first especially when the bar is a place I frequent often. Back a few years, I was never asked to buy a drink before going into Baccara, but that was when Mini worked there and I went to that place 5 nights a week. 555. So recently when the same Baccara doorman asked me to buy a drink first, I just laughed and crossed over to Shark. A couple of nights later the same doorman waived me in no problem because the place was not packed.
My suggestion is unless there is a definite reason to be there, go somewhere else when the outside one drink minimum is imposed. The imposition tells me the place is over crowded and it will be less than enjoyable at that particular time.
It should go without saying, however, that when you are seated in a Go Go watching the show, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO BUY A DRINK! Any drink order will suffice - coke, juice, water, Tequila. That is a reasonable request.
My current experience with Baccara is that the doorman will ask me to buy a drink outside, even though he knows me, when the place is full of customers, otherwise it's walk right in.
I had a onetime similar experience at CH, my current 2017 favorite Go Go, but the door opened from the inside just as I was being asked to buy a drink and my mamasan spotted me and waived me in. Other than that one time they always allow me to walk right in because they know me and know I spend money in their bar.
Another time the CH doorman tried to hit me up for a tip as I was leaving with one of my girls and we had stopped outside the bar while she chatted with her sister. I ignored him like Japanese oriented girls ignore Farangs and pretended I never heard him. He never bothered me for a tip again.
I admit I don't like being asked to buy a drink outside first especially when the bar is a place I frequent often. Back a few years, I was never asked to buy a drink before going into Baccara, but that was when Mini worked there and I went to that place 5 nights a week. 555. So recently when the same Baccara doorman asked me to buy a drink first, I just laughed and crossed over to Shark. A couple of nights later the same doorman waived me in no problem because the place was not packed.
My suggestion is unless there is a definite reason to be there, go somewhere else when the one drink minimum is imposed. The imposition tells me the place is over crowded and it will be less than enjoyable at that particular time.Roger that!
Yes, she had a nose job after that. And a very similar body and child free. Nothing at all like that in the PSE shops these days. Would appreciate seeing non-nude pics of some of the old oily gals if you have em.I remember Kan and Apple from a few years ago. Outstanding.
Yes, she had a nose job after that. And a very similar body and child free. Nothing at all like that in the PSE shops these days. Would appreciate seeing non-nude pics of some of the old oily gals if you have em.Actually I probably posted them all before (the important ones that I had pics of). I could have a look though. I don't think I have any pics of June SW and Bongkot nor Cat of Mango. Probably have 2 or 3 Tulip girls.
XRatedBangkok
10-30-17, 07:35
Hi folks,
My report regarding Tik at Kasalong BJ bar, between Sukhumvit soi 6 and 8.
Tik is a girl from Isaan I her mid 40's, MILF with dyed blond hair. Average looking girl but as usual in BJ bars, the look is not the point, but the skills. She has a friendly contact and everything goes smooth. She was surprised I heard about her, since it was my 1st time there. DT is her specialty, but she can perform if your thing is not too big. 800 thb for 30 minutes.
Rooms upstairs look a bit tacky. Tik does the job correctly, she does not hurry and is eager to satisfy the customer. Slow or fast, she can do it all; however the teeth factor is a bit too strong. I would give her 6/10.
My best DT experience so far: Cheechee at Woodbar, 1000 thb, 9/10.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-30-17, 10:45
Snip. She's texting me now with I love you. Of course she loves me because I took care of her with multiple ladydrinks and a fair price for 2 pops. 3,200 bar bill, 800 tip for Moma, 1000 BF, and 3,000 Baht 3 hours. Three days in the business and not jaded yet. She will learn soon. She's also telling me that she has been broken up from her Thai boyfriend, a different story from last night where they were still together. You've got to love these little darlings and how they try to tell their little white lies to get what they want. It's all in good fun if you play along. It's when these punters fall in love with these girls that it can get dangerous for some guys.Why the 800 Bhat tip for the Moma? What did she do to earn that size tip?
Jimmy Boy 99
10-30-17, 11:34
Toy Bar and Magic Table are not really BJ bars I think but agogo's. I don't know what the prices are there.
The Wood Bar is indeed a BJ bar. I don't know if you can get a HJ there (or at any other BJ bar for that matter) but if you can then 500 should be about right.
For a BJ they have a two tier system. Last time I went there I believe it was 1000 baht for the (relatively!) better looking (or more skilled?) girls and 700 or 800 for the less attractive ones. A tip is not mandatory but very much appreciated (200-300 baht for a good BJ will do).
Other well known BJ bars like L-olitas or Kasalong have a one tier system: 800 baht (excluding tip).
For a more up market place with better looking girls I can highly recommend Bitstyle (google Bitstyle Bangkok). A BJ there is 1400 baht (excluding tip).
Snip.Have you been there lately? Checking their website, the girls that are supposedly there now are no better (if even that) than the ones I've had in the past at the other BJ bars for far less money.
Preben From Dk
10-30-17, 11:52
Last night (Sunday) around midnight went in to Kiss (soi cowboy) not many girls, none very attractive. Went across the street to Cowboy 2.
More and prettier girls. Was interested in one, but she wanted 2 ladydrinks to sit in my lap.
Went to Nana. Butterflies top floor, very late, after 2. Quite a lot of girls, friendly atmosphere, maybe not the highest quality girls.
Mandarin, not many girls, not so friendly. Oh, prior to this I went to wood bar, and had a blowjob. Before you get in to that "cubicle" it's not very welcoming. I almost couldn't buy a beer if I didn't confirm that I was going to order a blowjob too. After I picked a girl everything was nicer. A little bit of chitchat and not hurried service.
Have you been there lately? Checking their website, the girls that are supposedly there now are no better (if even that) than the ones I've had in the past at the other BJ bars for far less money.Last time I've been there was in June. Unlike you I've had better looking girls there (on average) than at other BJ bars, but maybe I was just lucky. And as always: YMMV.
Last time I had Kiki. Not by choice but because she was the only one available, but as it turned out she was the best girl I've had there. She gave me a GFE including DFK and a great subtle BJ.
Have you been there lately? Checking their website, the girls that are supposedly there now are no better (if even that) than the ones I've had in the past at the other BJ bars for far less money.So who have you had, that was so beautiful? I don't recall if you posted on specific BJ girls before. It you want to knock it, and say you had much better, you should provide the better alternatives, besides Min Kasalong already posted by others.
We love to hear what was liked rather than just what was not liked only. It tends to be more useful.
In the Bitstyle pics, Ojung and Malee look acceptable to me with a taste for skinny girls. I would like to hear if they were experienced, good GFE service, and worth a try. Any positive recommendations can be useful maybe if someone says why they liked the girl.
Mogwai did good by mentioning Kiki. Her face is maybe not quite my spec (sharpish LOL), but doable.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-30-17, 13:55
So who have you had, that was so beautiful? I don't recall if you posted on specific BJ girls before. It you want to knock it, and say you had much better, you should provide the better alternatives, besides Min Kasalong already posted by others.
We love to hear what was liked rather than just what was not liked only. It tends to be more useful.
In the Bitstyle pics, Ojung and Malee look acceptable to me with a taste for skinny girls. I would like to hear if they were experienced, good GFE service, and worth a try. Any positive recommendations can be useful maybe if someone says why they liked the girl.
Mogwai did good by mentioning Kiki. Her face is maybe not quite my spec (sharpish LOL), but doable.I never said any I had were beautiful. They were not. I just stated, for the benefit of the original poster, that the bitstyle girls were, in my opinion, no better than the other ones (i. e. just as average) and not worth the cost differential to me. The original poster can check bitstyle and the other bj bars and make his own judgment.
I remember Kan and Apple from a few years ago. Outstanding.I also have very fond memories of Kan -- nice rack & ass; great kisser. I had her for several overnights. One morning while I was blissfully plugging her pussy from behind, she surprised me by suddenly inserting my cock into her Hershey highway! I also had Apple and her "sister" Cherry quite a few times when they were newbies. However, my favorite Mango of all time was Soda, a sweetie from Chiang Mai who was a hottie and provided great service!! Those were the days.
StarMariner
10-30-17, 19:25
Hi,
Can any of my fellow mongers provide a current price for taking two bi / Lesbian girls for 3-hours from Shark, Suzie Wong's or Crazy House. Any insight appreciated and, of course, full detailed report to follow.
Thanks.
Robert Long
10-31-17, 02:09
Packed with mongers, not a lot of ladies but not a bad selection either. The last time I walked thru I was right off the beach in Hawaii and didn't get much attention or smiles. This time I wore nice high end clothes and not only did I receive smiles of the come get me type, but I was approached by ladies twice offering their services. Prices were quoted from 1500 to 2500 baht for a short time.
I always come back with the "but I'm an old man and it takes longer request", which they always reply ok until finish. At my age I am lucky to finish, but I have had a lady every night since I arrived last Friday and they work very hard to help you finish. I think it is a matter of pride for these ladies. They feel very sorry and want to continue to do everything to make you finish. I was offered a no condom deal for an additional 1000 baht, and last night she wanted me to come quick so she took off the condom and just ask me to please not cum inside, and pull out to finish.
So I have the meds to keep it up, now I need the meds to cum quicker. Life's irony is when your young you get excited and cum in 1 minute and as you get older it takes longer and longer.
6 more daze and back to the real world.
RL.
So I have the meds to keep it up, now I need the meds to cum quicker.
RL.Yes me too. I have tried all sorts of vitamins but nothing really makes me cum quicker other than being deprived of all pops for at least a week. LOL.
I can report that giving up wanking is beneficial, not that anyone should need to wank in Thailand unless trying to solve the "pop too quick" problem.
Hi,
Can any of my fellow mongers provide a current price for taking two bi / Lesbian girls for 3-hours from Shark, Suzie Wong's or Crazy House. Any insight appreciated and, of course, full detailed report to follow.
Thanks.Normal girl price, multiplied by two. You just pay each girl, as normal. There should not be any extras. We can't specify there is any one price that applies to all girls and to all customers. Normal ST is not to 3 hours, so you will have negotiate a special deal for that. I have never tried to get more than 2 hours for ST unless was an all night (obviously not ST in that case).
Beware that some ST Hotels will try to double the price. That is not on, since the girls have nothing to do with them, just for an extra towel, in my opinion. Adding 50 Baht or so is more reasonable.
In Shark, gogo girls tall Patty (big tits - enhanced but very soft - can't find the silicone) and Maa (medium tits) and very sexy, are offering me 3-somes. Both are very kissy girls and DFK no problem. I get tongue kisses from both just by buying them a drink. Both were originally Suzi Wong girls, in the better looking category. Yesterday the prices for the lady drinks were fucked up by the bar staff (in a good way - cheaper than they should be) when the two girls ordered "black and coke" instead of tequilas. That was a nice surprise. My well known waitress confirmed I got lucky with a billing mistake.
My most regular CH girl is too shy to do 3somes. probably Jane No. 4 might be a good choice although no idea if she can lick pussy.
Suzie Wong is completely dead for me since the Management take over, although may have some girls that can do 3 some remaining there. New manager lady is a crazy drunk with a Mohawk hair cut and seems get huge numbers from drinks from the customers by pushy methods, maybe girls are required to request drinks for her too.
HorseTrader
10-31-17, 07:31
Hi,
Can any of my fellow mongers provide a current price for taking two bi / Lesbian girls for 3-hours from Shark, Suzie Wong's or Crazy House. Any insight appreciated and, of course, full detailed report to follow.
Thanks.I had almost exactly that from Shark, these were not the inside girls but were the girls from outside that coax you to come inside. Had a drink with the one that brought me in and we chatted for about 15 minutes. Later, her friend from outside joined us for a second drink. Made a deal for short time in my Soi 11 hotel. If I recall, the bar fine was 700 baht each. I paid 3000 baht to each girl.
We walked to my Soi 11 hotel and spent about 90 minutes in my hotel room, next time will do a taxi. Great three-way shower shortly after arrival. I did get dual BBBJ, but the sex required change of condoms, which at my age was very difficult. Only 1 girl would kiss me. They really were not into each other. Short impersonal three-way shower at the end.
The first girl was very pretty and personable, I was shocked when she told me her age was 37. The second girl was not as pretty and not great to talk to, but had firmer body that felt great, perhaps 22-26. Both girls spoke fluent English. I might repeat with the older girl, but it will be a long time before I do another 3-way. It was a nice change of pace, but I think one girl is enough for me.
This was about 2 weeks ago and late at night. I think I arrived at Shark shortly before midnight and they left my hotel room at about 3:00 am.
This was my first Soi Cowboy or Nana girl experience since February. I've found the Lords' Palace to be a better overall experience, though one Lords' girl costs about the same as I paid for 2 Shark girls. The right Thermae girl is the best value for me, though the wrong Thermae girl is a lifeless waste of time and money.
I never said any I had were beautiful. They were not. I just stated, for the benefit of the original poster, that the bitstyle girls were, in my opinion, no better than the other ones (i. e. just as average) and not worth the cost differential to me. The original poster can check bitstyle and the other bj bars and make his own judgment.Apologies. I interpreted "checking their website" as meaning going by the looks in the photos. Still would be helpful to name names and state which girls were tried and performed rather average, and even what makes all the girls so average. Or who is the best girl tried.
Most of my experiences found such huge variations in girl performances ranging from absolute crap, to very forgettable (not repeatable), to repeat girls, to long term favourites. I used to repeat Anne in LOL-itas regularly till she quit simply because she was an enthusiastic fuck and a great ass. The looks and body obviously mattered a lot to me.
I also have very fond memories of Kan -- nice rack & ass; great kisser. I had her for several overnights. One morning while I was blissfully plugging her pussy from behind, she surprised me by suddenly inserting my cock into her Hershey highway! I also had Apple and her "sister" Cherry quite a few times when they were newbies. However, my favorite Mango of all time was Soda, a sweetie from Chiang Mai who was a hottie and provided great service!! Those were the days.Anybody or shop you can recommend that has pretty girls like these old timers? Attitude and demeanor are also important. Nice ones are harder and harder to find.
GasolineFire
10-31-17, 08:42
Hi,
Can any of my fellow mongers provide a current price for taking two bi / Lesbian girls for 3-hours from Shark, Suzie Wong's or Crazy House. Any insight appreciated and, of course, full detailed report to follow.
Thanks.In the last couple of years I have taken two girls 3 times from CH and once from Baccara, last time Feb this year, no extra price for the fun. Had to pay 500 B for extra girl at a hotel once, can't remember which hotel that was. Make sure you have a few condoms available though as I always had to change between girls. I choose my preferred girl for LT, between 4000-5000 B and then whilst having a drink or two find out who she is keen to join us, have never had a poor second choice, the second one I only take for ST, 2000-3000 B.
Enjoy.
In the Bitstyle pics, Ojung and Malee look acceptable to me with a taste for skinny girls. I would like to hear if they were experienced, good GFE service, and worth a try. Any positive recommendations can be useful maybe if someone says why they liked the girl.
Mogwai did good by mentioning Kiki. Her face is maybe not quite my spec (sharpish LOL), but doable.I've had Ojung too, about a year ago I think. She was OK. If I remember correctly I had to 'teach' her to blow me continuously instead of interrupting it all the time to jerk me off. She was a good student. From that moment on she did not stop anymore until I came, even though that took another 10 minutes or so.
By the way, all of the girls I've been with there (4 or 5 in total I think) were sweet and friendly but Kiki was the only one who gave me a real GFE (initiated by herself). So this is certainly not standard.
The other girls I had are not in the photo gallery anymore. Or I don't recognize them anymore LOL.
I hope to try Bitstyle out on Thursday and have the Lingam / Prostrate massage, I will play it by ear which girl to choose, I may try going about 2-00 pm.
I have made a note for 90 mins massage at BitStyle, with 45 for Prostrate and 45 for Lingam, to try and get some power into my shots.:)
A report will follow if I make it and I do not get distracted elsewhere. .
JesseJames
10-31-17, 14:35
I hope to try Bitstyle out on Thursday and have the Lingam / Prostrate massage, I will play it by ear which girl to choose, I may try going about 2-00 pm.
I have made a note for 90 mins massage at BitStyle, with 45 for Prostrate and 45 for Lingam, to try and get some power into my shots.:)
A report will follow if I make it and I do not get distracted elsewhere. .Is Lingam a dildo? If not what is Lingam?
KilledSoul
10-31-17, 15:19
I was walking on Sukhemvit 33, when I saw a tall girl standing beside dreams of heaven. I wondered how cool it would be to fuck her and my Johnny seconded the motion and gave a standing ovation.
Immediately I chucked the idea of visiting addict massage parlour and decided to try out Dreams in heaven as my first massage parlour in Bangkok. I went inside. The mamasan gave me the rate card and I decided for 90 minutes massage in the VIP room 2400 bath. I had asked him how many times I could pop and he said only once. I asked for the line-up and among them three girls were smiling I chose the best looking smiling girl and off I went with her.
Inside the room she showed me the condoms and told me that I can fuck and then started to feel up my dick and started asking do you want to fuck me repeatedly, I said yes and she told me to remove my clothes. She seemed to be very eager and horny as if she was not fucked from ages and I was her knight with shining dick.
I asked her for BBBJ she told me to wash my junk after washing my dick we were back into bed and she gave a pretty decent BJ. Afterwards she put the condom and started with cow girl. The condom was tight but I was not complaining that much after fucking her in various positions I came. She was disappointed that I came to early and then we went to the Jacuzzi. There she started watching Facebook videos and I was chilling and getting rest afterwards yet again went to the bed. This time I lasted a bit longer and came again in doggy position. While pulling her hair. It seemed as if she wanted more but I was done and left I gave her a tip of 500 bath.
Overall the session was very good and I was very satisfied with the service and I'm pretty sure she was disappointed with my sexual performance.
Massage parlours have a very robust seen and I think every beginner should start with them to minimise the risk of poor service and good heuristic would be to choose a girl who is smiling at you.
KilledSoul
10-31-17, 15:21
Is Lingam a dildo? If not what is Lingam?Lingam is sanskrit form Penis.
KilledSoul
10-31-17, 15:32
The last time I walked thru I was right off the beach in Hawaii and didn't get much attention or smiles. This time I wore nice high end clothes and not only did I receive smiles of the come get me type, but I was approached by ladies twice offering their services.
RL.Lot of guys here complain about Thermae and how it is only good for Asians. But is dressing the club style the key to be successful in Thermae? The above report has activated my almonds.
Christian G
10-31-17, 19:03
Lot of guys here complain about Thermae and how it is only good for Asians. But is dressing the club style the key to be successful in Thermae? The above report has activated my almonds.Last time I been in Thermae I wear shorts and tshirt, I had a quick drink and walk around, alot of girls smiled at me. I'm a white european guy, so dressing could help of course but is not the key.
KilledSoul
10-31-17, 20:14
I'm a white european guy, so dressing could help of course but is not the key.Last time I went, only Asians guys were in demand, to be honest I felt jealous. Lots of white men sitting in the middle and sipping their beers, even the young white guys. I got lucky and managed to get a girl but it was purely luck. What should be a good strategy in Thermae other than be attractive and don't be unattractive?
Robert Long
11-01-17, 02:31
Last time I went, only Asians guys were in demand, to be honest I felt jealous. Lots of white men sitting in the middle and sipping their beers, even the young white guys. I got lucky and managed to get a girl but it was purely luck. What should be a good strategy in Thermae other than be attractive and don't be unattractive?I pulled a Laotian lady last night from Thermae. Again I think if you look good and clean and talk to a lot of the ladies, joking and always a smile on your face, it seems very easy. They like a guy with a friendly attitude so just go for it. BTW, she agreed on 1500 baht. But many I talked to wanted 2500 but also were ready to nego, saying "how much you want to pay" A lot of competition in there for the ladies so they realize that it might be to their benefit to take a lower offer.
Thermae appears to be a Japaness boys club. Most leave without taking a lady. The older Japanese guys are doing the buying. I think the ladies know that and are more willing to take what comes their way, instead of waiting for the Japanese guy. Also the Lady I took said that the Japanese guys are getting cheap and try to lowball the prices offered.
RL.
FormulaOneFan
11-01-17, 04:51
I never had any issues at Thermae as a 40's american white guy dressed in nice shorts and a polo shirt. Of course there was a subset of girls that didn't make eye contact and had no interest, but I've always been able to find a girl or ten per trip that caught my fancy and was able to negotiate a good evening with. Never paid less than 1500ST and never more than 2500ST (never done LT directly from Thermae).
Key is confidence and not worrying if you get shot down - if your hottest pick says japanese only, then move on to the next. I've never gone past my top 3 before I found a girl who would go with a farang
FreebieFan
11-01-17, 06:35
I never had any issues at Thermae as a 40's american white guy dressed in nice shorts and a polo shirt. Of course there was a subset of girls that didn't make eye contact and had no interest, but I've always been able to find a girl or ten per trip that caught my fancy and was able to negotiate a good evening with. Never paid less than 1500ST and never more than 2500ST (never done LT directly from Thermae).
Key is confidence and not worrying if you get shot down - if your hottest pick says japanese only, then move on to the next. I've never gone past my top 3 before I found a girl who would go with a farangWas in Thermae a few times last week (on the days it was open) and no worries at all. I'm a 60's guy (shall I say I look younger like every other poster here says LOL) . And there was no worries in finding what I wanted. Thermae has become a sort of playground for all rather than being East Asian only. Sadly Biergarten is in its death throws. Quiet and so poor now.
Having said that I object to paying to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the open, next to a kitchen (Health Regs anyone?). But such is life. Not a biggie.
I never had any issues at Thermae as a 40's american white guy dressed in nice shorts and a polo shirt. Of course there was a subset of girls that didn't make eye contact and had no interest, but I've always been able to find a girl or ten per trip that caught my fancy and was able to negotiate a good evening with. Never paid less than 1500ST and never more than 2500ST (never done LT directly from Thermae).
Key is confidence and not worrying if you get shot down - if your hottest pick says japanese only, then move on to the next. I've never gone past my top 3 before I found a girl who would go with a farangYes it is definitely possible for Farangs to get girls in the Thermae. Some girls are asking for extra 500 baht for Farangs. Usually my top picks are not interested in Farangs, or even if they will go with surcharge are not giving me the good vibe. Sometimes I have just been beaten to the girl by very fast Japanese customer. Then you have the issue of what percentage of girls are into DFK. Then there is how many girls are not wrecked by surgeries. Etc. How much stamina do the girls have. Is the outfit hiding a not so great body? It is not that easy to get the perfect girl.
I find that dropping down to my 4th of 5th preference girl, causes me to lose the motivation to actually go for it. Others that are willing to take their not first preference will be okay Depends on how far you will drop your looks requirement and how many knock backs will leave you totally undeterred. Most of us are coming from past experience in a Soapy, Oily or bar, where we choose the best girl in the line up to our personal spec, and then it is rare to experience the knock backs (but can happen). Hardly ever more than one knock back in a bar.
Do I think nice shorts and a polo shirt make a difference? I doubt it. Personally I don't wear shorts. I usually do have a better shirt with collar but doubt it makes a scrap of difference. There have to be other factors, like attitude, friendliness, manner of speaking, clean and not stinky, physical size, etc. , but most of all nationality or race.
Thermae is going to be fine for some guys, but not the best hunting ground for me. None of the girls I actually took recently were worth repeating, at all. All well behind my best bargirls for performance on the bed, or even if performance was okay, then the body unclothed was just not good enough.
To get everything right is not that easy. Definitely suits customers easier to please. I don't have much luck with getting free lancers off the street either unless will to take a girl with much weaker looks than my normal standard.
Naked or very scantily clad girls for me, all the way. LOL Just my need to see what I am getting, to eliminate some of the risks. This makes me a very odd monger I guess, especially since I will take girls with hardly any tits if the rest of the figure is very good. I will take mothers as well with very minimal figure damage. Just get turned off by flab, fat thighs, and severe sag. I have to accept that I am becoming a difficult customer, way beyond the norm, and need very special girls, sleek models (too short is allowable of course). Hardly motivated to try new girls any more. Just my probably of success has dropped off over the years.
Banana Boi
11-01-17, 07:39
the Lady I took said that the Japanese guys are getting cheap and try to lowball the prices offered.Best news I have heard in a year!
What you wear at Thermae makes no difference. Just don't wear a wife beater shirt. As long as you look clean and smell clean you're in.
There may be a reason a girl doesn't look at you. I was at a G club in Pattaya last week and the girl I wanted wouldn't even make eye contact with me. Instead she stared at the wall the entire time. She was the only one I wanted there so I went to talk to her. She was super friendly and turned out she was brand new and just super shy. Same thing happened 3 weeks ago at another G club. The one I wanted was the one who didn't look at me. I just went to sit on the sofa with her. When I made her laugh a bit she opened up. She is now a girl I visit often. Don't be shy to approach the girl you want. Have confidence but do not be cocky. Thai girls HATE cocky guys.
Thermae appears to be a Japaness boys club. Most leave without taking a lady. The older Japanese guys are doing the buying. I think the ladies know that and are more willing to take what comes their way, instead of waiting for the Japanese guy. Also the Lady I took said that the Japanese guys are getting cheap and try to lowball the prices offered.
RL.I've been saying that about Japanese customers for quite a while; that many of them are stingy as hell and likely do not overpay or even pay as much as most Farang customers pay. I got blowback from a poster here for saying some girls don't want to go with Japanese customers for that and other reasons. The blowback was they supposedly only told me that to make me feel good. Ok. 3-4 years ago I used to take a very popular FL who never had a problem getting a customer and ignored the Japanese guys who approached her. I'd seen her doing it from a distance before she knew I was in the area. She did it quite openly. And that was her assessment of Japanese customers; penny pinchers, always trying to work a cheaper deal, terrified of paying one baht more than the going rate for a girl and always had to walk away thinking they'd gotten a better deal than Farangs or anyone else. I used to give her 1,500 max for ST, often she would stay longtime for that amount. Hardly a super high cost lady. I believe the word on Japanese customers being cheapos has gotten around Thermae as well and that is why so many more girls are open to Farang customers than they might have been a few years ago.
Many girls in Thermae would have no idea that their Japanese customers are not paying one baht more than the next Farang who walks into the place would because they have never taken a Farang so they have nothing to compare them to. All they know for sure is the Japanese guys pay them a lot more than any Thai guy ever did. Hey, no kidding? I suppose the girls who are willing to talk price would have a notion. But some won't even do that when a Farang approaches them or cannot due to no English fluency.
Anyway, Thermae is a weird case because it became a self-fulfilling prophesy; many Japanese guys go there expecting to be preferred by the ladies because almost everybody who talks about Thermae likely repeats the montra that the girls at Thermae prefer Japanese customers. Including right here on these message boards. LOL. So, naturally, Japanese customers started showing up at Thermae by the busload. If we regularly read on the message boards that the girls at XYZ Club much prefer Farangs and can't wait for one to take them, busloads of Farangs would start showing up at XYZ Club (no such club by that name that I know of, BTW). Regardless, once it is known by girls working in a P4P location that every 30 minutes or so another busload of Japanese will show up looking for a lady, unless the non Japanese guy standing in front of them is exuding some special vibe re money, fun or ease of use, they tend to want to wait a few minutes to see what the next busload of Japanese guys brings. And that would probably be true for Norwegians if a busload of Norwegians showed up every 30 minutes or so.
I pulled a Laotian lady last night from Thermae. Again I think if you look good and clean and talk to a lot of the ladies, joking and always a smile on your face, it seems very easy. They like a guy with a friendly attitude so just go for it. BTW, she agreed on 1500 baht. But many I talked to wanted 2500 but also were ready to nego, saying "how much you want to pay" A lot of competition in there for the ladies so they realize that it might be to their benefit to take a lower offer.
Thermae appears to be a Japaness boys club. Most leave without taking a lady. The older Japanese guys are doing the buying. I think the ladies know that and are more willing to take what comes their way, instead of waiting for the Japanese guy. Also the Lady I took said that the Japanese guys are getting cheap and try to lowball the prices offered.
RL.Most girls I am keen on are also in demand by Japanese customers. If they can go with me at all, they typically want to charge me a 500 Baht surcharge on top of the price for Japanese. In a way, this is fair in that I will expect them to work far harder for me. No 5 minutes and pop. However it tends to mean their price is not as attractive as it is for Asian customers.
However it is unclear that the girl is going to perform well enough to warrant me paying her price anyway. I would prefer a girl with no price specified and let me pay her fairly based on her performance. This often happens to me with normal bar girls.
I certainly never had any girl happy to go for 1500 Baht in recent times from Thermae. Some are saying "well yes, but 3000" which is not exactly exciting and I did not buy. I am sure there are cheaper girls there, but I just don't seem to pick the girls not in demand. They must look just too ordinary for me.
If I had to go through a tough negotiation, it would probably kill my interest totally. I believe I see Japanese going through more extended negotiations, but that is not going to work for me.
I have a regular girl who seems to be too lazy to go out to her normal bar to work. This is great, because she gets low on money regularly and has to come to my place to get some money. Most days would rather come to me than go to work. So I avoid the BF and lady drinks charges, and the ST Hotel, and get a very sleek model who is reliable on the bed. For my all night Girl, I go to her place now. I also have a very reliable girl in Shark now who gives a very extended ST. Never had a negotiation with her. She never quoted a price. My incentive to keep trying the Thermae has dwindled. I need to be very desperate. I need to look around for some other good really cheap options yet still good looks, but did not find that in Thermae so far. Maybe it is unrealistic, however I used to like Anne at Loli-tas for a low price.
Anyway, Thermae is a weird case because it became a self-fulfilling prophesy; many Japanese guys go there expecting to be preferred by the ladies because almost everybody who talks about Thermae likely repeats the montra that the girls at Thermae prefer Japanese customers. Including right here on these message boards. LOL. So, naturally, Japanese customers started showing up at Thermae by the busload. If we regularly read on the message boards that the girls at XYZ Club much prefer Farangs and can't wait for one to take them, busloads of Farangs would start showing up at XYZ Club (no such club by that name that I know of, BTW). Regardless, once it is known by girls working in a P4P location that every 30 minutes or so another busload of Japanese will show up looking for a lady, unless the non Japanese guy standing in front of them is exuding some special vibe re money, fun or ease of use, they tend to want to wait a few minutes to see what the next busload of Japanese guys brings. And that would probably be true for Norwegians if a busload of Norwegians showed up every 30 minutes or so.Always the funniest imaginative logic coming from you. Always cracks me up somewhat.
Most girls I am keen on are also in demand by Japanese customers. If they can go with me at all, they typically want to charge me a 500 Baht surcharge on top of the price for Japanese. In a way, this is fair in that I will expect them to work far harder for me. No 5 minutes and pop. However it tends to mean their price is not as attractive as it is for Asian customers.
However it is unclear that the girl is going to perform well enough to warrant me paying her price anyway. I would prefer a girl with no price specified and let me pay her fairly based on her performance. This often happens to me with normal bar girls.
I certainly never had any girl happy to go for 1500 Baht in recent times from Thermae. Some are saying "well yes, but 3000" which is not exactly exciting and I did not buy. I am sure there are cheaper girls there, but I just don't seem to pick the girls not in demand. They must look just too ordinary for me.
If I had to go through a tough negotiation, it would probably kill my interest totally. I believe I see Japanese going through more extended negotiations, but that is not going to work for me.
Well, if the general consensus here among Farangs is that the most often quoted price in Thermae is about 2500 baht (which itself might include a 500 baht Farang surcharge) and even your top quality girls presumably favored by Japanese are still quoting 3000 baht with a possible 500 baht Farang surcharge in that quote, then it doesn't require much imaginative logic to conclude that very, very few if any Thermae girls are expecting or getting more than 2000-2500 from their Japanese customers and that this idea that Japanese customers are overpaying should be put to rest for good.
And based on what I've read here and the usual surveys showing a majority of men finishing up in less than 4-5 minutes, that supposed surcharge can't possibly be about time or effort involved with the rare exception of someone like yourself.
Which mostly leaves the element of size as a factor. Other than mere fear of the unkniwn, that is. Even then, we're not really talking about a significant difference between what the Japanese guys are paying and what the rest of us are paying. Unless it turns out the Japanese guys are only paying 1000-1500 baht. Which, as imaginative as that might sound, is frankly more plausible to me than conjuring up some image of a Japanese dude happily paying more than an amount he knows a Farang would have to pay.
Member #4591
11-01-17, 15:49
Well, if the general consensus here among Farangs is that the most often quoted price in Thermae is about 2500 baht (which itself might include a 500 baht Farang surcharge) and even your top quality girls presumably favored by Japanese are still quoting 3000 baht with a possible 500 baht Farang surcharge in that quote, then it doesn't require much imaginative logic to conclude that very, very few if any Thermae girls are expecting or getting more than 2000-2500 from their Japanese customers and that this idea that Japanese customers are overpaying should be put to rest for good.
And based on what I've read here and the usual surveys showing a majority of men finishing up in less than 4-5 minutes, that supposed surcharge can't possibly be about time or effort involved with the rare exception of someone like yourself.
Which mostly leaves the element of size as a factor. Other than mere fear of the unkniwn, that is. Even then, we're not really talking about a significant difference between what the Japanese guys are paying and what the rest of us are paying. Unless it turns out the Japanese guys are only paying 1000-1500 baht. Which, as imaginative as that might sound, is frankly more plausible to me than conjuring up some image of a Japanese dude happily paying more than an amount he knows a Farang would have to pay.I honestly don't give a flying fuck what others pay! I pay whatever I think the girl is worth at the time. If one is just looking for a hole to put their dick in, then please continue these price discussions and banter about the Japanese customers. It has always been my opinion that if both parties are happy, the session will be enjoyable for both. If one or the other is not happy, the session will completely suck. Think about that everyone the next time you try and negotiate for that 500 less.
This wasn't the way I wanted to post my 1000th post but you guys are seriously killing me with this topic and the other one about the taste of semen.
So my next review will be post #1001 from Enter bar again.
Well, if the general consensus here among Farangs is that the most often quoted price in Thermae is about 2500 baht (which itself might include a 500 baht Farang surcharge) and even your top quality girls presumably favored by Japanese are still quoting 3000 baht with a possible 500 baht Farang surcharge in that quote, then it doesn't require much imaginative logic to conclude that very, very few if any Thermae girls are expecting or getting more than 2000-2500 from their Japanese customers and that this idea that Japanese customers are overpaying should be put to rest for good.
And based on what I've read here and the usual surveys showing a majority of men finishing up in less than 4-5 minutes, that supposed surcharge can't possibly be about time or effort involved with the rare exception of someone like yourself.
Which mostly leaves the element of size as a factor. Other than mere fear of the unkniwn, that is. Even then, we're not really talking about a significant difference between what the Japanese guys are paying and what the rest of us are paying. Unless it turns out the Japanese guys are only paying 1000-1500 baht. Which, as imaginative as that might sound, is frankly more plausible to me than conjuring up some image of a Japanese dude happily paying more than an amount he knows a Farang would have to pay.Amazingly glad to hear that the Japanese are starting to negotiate down with the gals. It's about time. Was a real Thermae rat from 99-07. After that it became quite meh and more expensive. Would never even consider more than 2 k for any of the gals in there. Nice to see some dudes getting 1500.
Preben From Dk
11-01-17, 20:43
Barfined for 700 a few days ago, now they say it's 850. Otherwise Bangkok bunnies get's high points from me. OK girls, not too pushy.
This wasn't the way I wanted to post my 1000th post but you guys are seriously killing me with this topic and the other one about the taste of semen.
Why don't you try posting something that catches our interest enough to change the subject, whatever that might be, that you don't approve of? If you or anyone else can't think of anything to post to move us off the topics you think we shouldn't be discussing, maybe your idea of what is "interesting" isn't all that.
Barfined for 700 a few days ago, now they say it's 850. Otherwise Bangkok bunnies get's high points from me. OK girls, not too pushy.Was it by any chance Halloween night? Or maybe the weekend following the King's funeral closings? They will typically use any unusual event or date on the calendar to tick up the barfines. As I recall, Bangkok Bunnies tried a 1,000 barfine rate on the weekends for a while. Don't know if they still charge that on the weekends. Then again, 850 baht is still less than some other Nana Plaza go-go bars depending on the time of the evening.
Amazingly glad to hear that the Japanese are starting to negotiate down with the gals. It's about time. Was a real Thermae rat from 99-07. After that it became quite meh and more expensive. Would never even consider more than 2 k for any of the gals in there. Nice to see some dudes getting 1500.I'm not really saying Japanese guys are negotiating down to 1,500-2,000 baht at Thermae. I am not in on the negotiations. But it would certainly explain the busloads of them showing up. I don't imagine busloads of Japanese guys are showing up for the privilege of paying MORE than the Farang standing next to them. If so, then the marketing departments of the Fortune 500 companies I have worked for would be envious of the marketing skills of those Thermae girls. Of course, the companies I worked for weren't selling pussy. LOL.
It is either that and/or the constant drum beat on the Internet and wherever the subject of Thermae is raised that the girls there much prefer or "only go" with Japanese guys. If I were Japanese, I would sure make a beeline for Thermae on that understanding. Like Syzy, I have seen Japanese men negotiating something for much longer than I would spend negotiating anything with a P4P girl before deciding whether to take her or not. I assume it is about price. I have watched two Japanese guys sitting at the bar with a girl they have called over and they seem to be grinding her over some issue in a negotiation for quite a while. And if those same girls are hitting me with a 2,500 baht initial quote with a possible 500 baht Farang surcharge in that quote, then it is entirely possible the Japanese guys must be worrying over whether she'll take less than 2,000 baht.
I would submit that the more often Farangs accept the 2,500 baht initial quote from the girls and treat them politely in the room, the less attractive Japanese customers will start appearing to the girls in Thermae because it is entirely possible that is the top rate they ever get from the Japanese customers, rarely so, and that they usually get significantly less than that. I am ok with paying an attractive Thermae girl 2,500 or even 3,000 baht as long as she agrees to my conditions. But not for what passes as standard procedure in the room these days.
Robert Long
11-02-17, 03:22
I'm not really saying Japanese guys are negotiating down to 1,500-2,000 baht at Thermae. I am not in on the negotiations. But it would certainly explain the busloads of them showing up. I don't imagine busloads of Japanese guys are showing up for the privilege of paying MORE than the Farang standing next to them. If so, then the marketing departments of the Fortune 500 companies I have worked for would be envious of the marketing skills of those Thermae girls. Of course, the companies I worked for weren't selling pussy. LOL.
It is either that and / or the constant drum beat on the Internet and wherever the subject of Thermae is raised that the girls there much prefer or "only go" with Japanese guys. If I were Japanese, I would sure make a beeline for Thermae on a nightly basis on that understanding. Like Syzy, I have seen Japanese men negotiating something for much longer than I would spend negotiating anything with a P4 P girl before deciding whether to take her or not. I assume it is about price. I have watched two Japanese guys sitting at the bar with a girl they have called over and they seem to be grinding her over some issue in a negotiation for quite a while. And if those same girls are hitting me with a 2,500 baht initial quote with a possible 500 baht surcharge in that quote, then it is entirely possible the Japanese guys must be worrying over whether she'll take less than 2,000 baht.
I would submit that the more often Farangs accept the 2,500 baht initial quote from the girls and treat them politely in the room, the less attractive Japanese customers will start appearing to the girls in Thermae because it is entirely possible that is the top rate they ever get from the Japanese customers, rarely so, and that they usually get significantly less than that. I am ok with paying a Thermae girl 2,500 or even 3,000 baht as long as she agrees to my conditions. But not for what passes as standard procedure in the room these days.I pulled a lady last nigh that was very professional looking mid 30's with short hair. Well dressed and clean makeup. She smiled and we chatted for awhile and she asked me if she could go with me and she said I charge you 2000 baht. Now that to me is a great policy. You can't come back with a lower amount than 2000. And I can assure you that she could wait and get that or more later on.
I've taken a lady every night since I arrived last Saturday. It takes me awhile to finish and every lady was adamant that I finish. It is a pride thing with them if you do not finish. They take it personally. Another thing is that 4 out of 5 did not want to climax because they complained it made them tired and they had to go home or back to work to catch another customer. I always DATY if possible and as long as they shower I assume they are clean. They always push me away after awhile and want to ride cowboy or doggie.
Have never heard of a "surcharge for farangs", is this an unspoken norm? I would think that a surcharge would be put on the horny Japanese guys that in the past would always pay more.
Went to CH last night also. The fuc_ing music was terrible and so loud I just walked out. Ended up having a beer at Lighthouse. The 2 lineups were a freak show. I guess all of the disproportional ladies work there. Strangest group of bodies I have ever seen. And they are all talking, I closed my eyes and it sounded like a chicken ranch.
Also it seemed that the barkers or coyotes were not active last night. Getting lazy I guess. They were all just sitting and not working.
RL.
Does anyone know if the HOOTERS girls can be Bar fined?
Does anyone know if the HOOTERS girls can be Bar fined?ROFLMAO. Of course not! They are not officially hookers. They are waitresses. They probably all have boyfriends already.
Having said that, all girls of this level are hookers for the right price. Depends how badly you want the girl.
The prices in Hooters are rather extreme. I don't go in there.
Went to CH last night also. The fuc_ing music was terrible and so loud I just walked out. Ended up having a beer at Lighthouse. The 2 lineups were a freak show. Yes CH is well known for music too loud. Careful choice of seat can alleviate it. Being in front of the speakers is not on. It is not the bar with the worst music (nor the best). Shark DJ is shitty although has some okay stuff. We have to realise that young people listen to stuff that we would not call music at all. It is just endlessly repeating percussion and screeches. I don't think Lighthouse is up to scratch for girls.
Have never heard of a "surcharge for farangs", is this an unspoken norm? I would think that a surcharge would be put on the horny Japanese guys that in the past would always pay more.
RL.I have also never had a Thermae girl or any other P4P girl tell me she needs to charge me more than anyone else because I am a Farang. But I believe that was said to Syzy by at least one Thermae girl he approached who he observed was very popular with Japanese customers or who generally only went with Japanese customers. I am sure he can and should correct the record on that if I have misremembered. Maybe other posters have shared the same experience.
I know several posters have complained about certain soapies charging Farangs an extra 500 baht or so. I rarely if ever go to those places so I can't confirm from personal experience. But even then I would bet the point in doing it is so they can assure their Japanese customers that they, the Japanese, are getting a better deal and paying a lower price than Farangs.
Does anyone know if the HOOTERS girls can be Bar fined?No they can't, in fact I am advised (by one of the girls) that they can be sacked if management finds out they have socialized with a customer outside of the business.
No they can't, in fact I am advised (by one of the girls) that they can be sacked if management finds out they have socialized with a customer outside of the business.This is true. However, if you are not a frequent Hooters customer so the managers don't know you and she claims she met you elsewhere, it's fine.
Can they be bar fined? HELL NO!
PhilAndererer
11-02-17, 12:17
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?
This is true. However, if you are not a frequent Hooters customer so the managers don't know you and she claims she met you elsewhere, it's fine.
Can they be bar fined? HELL NO!Not Bar fined. But, go there for the food, get her phone number. Meet after her shift ends or on her day off. Treat it like picking up a regular babe. Don't bring up money, let her do it. Then you'll know what kind of woman she is. LOL.
I arrived on Oct 26 midday. Luckily, for me, I had a young lady I've know for some time come and take care of me while the bars and gogo's were closed.
Some observations: Hit Crazy House Sat night just before midnight. The ground floor was Packed. The Upper floor was empty. I was quoted 700 BF. She then said 3 k ST, 6 k LT. About 6 months ago, ST was 2 k-3 k, LT was 3 k-5 k. There were a lot of dancers, but gradually their number diminished. I assuming they were getting barfined.
I returned to Crazy House Sunday night. I had seen a hottie to my liking the previous nigh. After a couple of beers, I spotted her and quickly grabbed her and offered her a drink. She ordered a DLD, (Red Flag #1.) She was beautiful, and had a curvy body, (guys here would call her chubby.) She wasn't as friendly as I had hoped, and drank half the DLD, then stated she needed to get on stage, but would return. (Red Flag # 2.) Seeing her dancing on stage got a rise out of me, (a rare occurrence.) She returned as promised and wanted another DLD. Chatting with her I wasn't feeling a positive vibe from her. She asked if I was going to bar fine her, and if not she would go look for another guy. (Red flag #3 and out.) Shame, as she was just how I like them.
I hit some other Soi Cowboy gogo's but did not see anything to my liking Sat and Sun night. Only thing that stuck to my mind was the panty hose wearing dancers in Suzie Wongs.
Halloween night I visited Nana: Spanky's was packed, almost no seat available. I had half a drink and went next door to Anglewitch. Angelwitch was in Halloween mode, with few customers. One of the dancers was another Just my type. More customers were arriving, so I grabbed her before someone else snatched her up. She is 23 and just Gorgeous, has been dancing at Angelwitch for 2 months. Unfortunately, not much of a personality. (I can sure pick'them.) She ordered a single LD. I tried to loosen her up, but she wasn't receptive. Mamason came by and suggest I bar fine her. I think that may have scared her as she finished her drink, thanked me for it and said she was returning to dance. WTF?! Yes, I showered and shaved before going out.
I looked in some other bars, a few had Halloween themes. I stopped in Enter and had a better luck there. Had a little fun with a cute waitress and a dancer. I couldn't stay long as I had a Ban Chang chick I met 6 months ago coming to visit.
Ms Ban Chang fucked my brains out over the following 24 hrs. She gave me the full PSE / GFE A+ treatment. Left me sore. Next stop is Pattaya.
Member #4591
11-02-17, 18:47
Why don't you try posting something that catches our interest enough to change the subject, whatever that might be, that you don't approve of? Well I don't approve of or better yet, I dislike the endless banter over the prices and Japanese punters or the taste of semen and whether or not girls like it or not. What I do approve of are field reports with good intel such as the most recent ones I posted about Nana, The Lord, and Saphan Kwai and the ones Syggs posted about many of the same areas. Or the ones posted by FL Hawk. Hope you understand where I'm coming from. Cheers.
UShobbyist
11-02-17, 21:35
Halloween night I visited Nana: Spanky's was packed, almost no seat available. I had half a drink and went next door to Anglewitch. Angelwitch was in Halloween mode, with few customers. One of the dancers was another Just my type. More customers were arriving, so I grabbed her before someone else snatched her up. She is 23 and just Gorgeous, has been dancing at Angelwitch for 2 months. Unfortunately, not much of a personality. (I can sure pick'them.) She ordered a single LD. I tried to loosen her up, but she wasn't receptive. Mamason came by and suggest I bar fine her. I think that may have scared her as she finished her drink, thanked me for it and said she was returning to dance. WTF?! Yes, I showered and shaved before going out.
Is the Bill Board on the 3rd floor still open?
Robert Long
11-03-17, 02:49
I have always hated the Bar girl game. You get run around 50% of the time. They only want to score points of commission on selling drinks so they pull your string and then walk away or go to another dodo that is drooling over them.
You buy 3 drinks only to find out the bar fine is 1000 baht the drinks are 1000 baht and she wants 3000 baht ST. And very impersonal just service and done. It is hard enough to have a conversation with a bar girl because you have to compete with the loud music.
FL's are he best way to go in my opinion. I agree that you can't see the whole package like you can in a bar or CH, but the attitude of bar girls is terrible.
I had a great encounter last night with a lady in Thermae. After talking to a few ladies that wanted 5000 baht, I moved on to the next smile in the crowd. She is from Chaing Mai and cute, great body and she is very sexy. The type that get you hard just talking to them. She asked for 2500, I asked for 2000 and she asked for 3000.5555 ok so agree on 2500.
Spent over 2 hours in my room. She use to work in Nanatree, (sp) and was sent back to CM after the closer. Great attitude included all positions, CBJ and a mini soppy in the tub, that was fun. The GFE type that laughs and plays, soft bites and plays with her own tits. I gave her 3000 because her attitude was so good and fun to be with.
RL.
Well I don't approve of or better yet, I dislike the endless banter over the prices and Japanese punters or the taste of semen and whether or not girls like it or not. What I do approve of are field reports with good intel such as the most recent ones I posted about Nana, The Lord, and Saphan Kwai and the ones Syggs posted about many of the same areas. Or the ones posted by FL Hawk. Hope you understand where I'm coming from. Cheers.Apparently others did approve of those subjects and contributed to discussions about them. Just skip past the posts and discussions you don't approve of or dislike.
FL's are he best way to go in my opinion. I agree that you can't see the whole package like you can in a bar or CH, but the attitude of bar girls is terrible.
I had a great encounter last night with a lady in Thermae. After talking to a few ladies that wanted 5000 baht, I moved on to the next smile in the crowd. She is from Chaing Mai and cute, great body and she is very sexy. The type that get you hard just talking to them. She asked for 2500, I asked for 2000 and she asked for 3000.5555 ok so agree on 2500.
Spent over 2 hours in my room. She use to work in Nanatree, (sp) and was sent back to CM after the closer. Great attitude included all positions, CBJ and a mini soppy in the tub, that was fun. The GFE type that laughs and plays, soft bites and plays with her own tits. I gave her 3000 because her attitude was so good and fun to be with.
RL.I find the attitude of many bargirls to be great, and certainly get better performances on the bed than what I got from Thermae girls. YMMV.
I need girls with a lot of Farang experience. Not all girls in Thermae meet that requirement.
Somehow I picked the wrong girls, putting too much emphasis on natural beauty. You seem to have done very well with the girl selection.
Okay I understand you are far less picky than me (after the 100 Issan beauties on soi 11 comment). Maybe you were not too serious with that one.
By Nanatree, I guess you mean Nataree. Not sure what you mean by "sent back to Chiang Mai". If girl was below age she could be put under special court rules, or if she really was not Thai she could be sent home to Myanmar. It is possible she is not really originally from CM. I she was a normal Thai, I don't see how she could be "sent" anywhere.
The true point about bargirls, is it costs more money. Yes there are bad bargirls that flit around from one customer to another looking for drinks. The bar is there to sell drinks. Yes bargirls run away if they find the customer is too frugal (sticky). They appreciate more generous guys. LOL.
If I could find a pretty Thermae girl that performs on the bed like my best 3 or 4 bargirls and has the perfect body, and is not in a rush, I would be happy. Just did not happen yet.
If I could find a very pretty freelancer anywhere that performs well consistently I would also be happy. Street girls are normally not good enough standard for face and body.
HorseTrader
11-03-17, 06:40
I've been in Thailand now for over 3 weeks and haven't spent enough time in the bars of Soi Cowboy or Nana. I changed that on Wednesday and Thursday.
These nights I almost let the girl pick me. I concentrated on whatever girl on stage was eyeing me up in a way that I liked. If I liked her, I would buy a lady drink. If none appealed to me, I moved to the next bar. When I found one where chemistry was good, I did the bar fine. On Wednesday I settled on a very pretty girl from Suzy Wong and it resulted in good 1. 5 hour session for 2000 baht plus bar fine. On Thursday I settled on a girl with average face but knockout body from Butterflies (I think that is the name, 3rd floor Nana). Our chemistry in the bar was excellent and only improved in my hotel. Agreed price was 2000 baht, but she stayed for about 4 hours so I gave her 3000 baht plus 200 as I put her in the taxi. The drawback of Butterflies is the 1000 baht bar fine, I don't Remember that much at Suzy Wong.
What I think I learned from those 2 nights is to let the girl do the first round of screening of me. If I don't pass the first screening with a girl that appeals to me, move on to the next bar. When I did this process on Wednesday I drank too much beer. On Thursday I never drank more than half a beer and switched to Coke at the end.
HorseTrader
11-03-17, 06:57
I've been in Thailand for 3 weeks and have just a 5 days left. I want to experience each category of sex at least one time. So far I've had non-working girls (freebies, ThaiFriendly plus a friend met on prior trip), soapy massage, oily massage, street walker FL, bikini bar girls, and Thermae FL girls. I still want to experience an escort and a BJ bar on this trip.
Are there any other general categories that I am missing? I'm not interested in anything that is too kinky, like groups larger than 3-some or a ladyboy.
I've been in Thailand now for over 3 weeks and haven't spent enough time in the bars of Soi Cowboy or Nana. I changed that on Wednesday and Thursday.
These nights I almost let the girl pick me. I concentrated on whatever girl on stage was eyeing me up in a way that I liked. If I liked her, I would buy a lady drink. If none appealed to me, I moved to the next bar. When I found one where chemistry was good, I did the bar fine. On Wednesday I settled on a very pretty girl from Suzy Wong and it resulted in good 1. 5 hour session for 2000 baht plus bar fine. On Thursday I settled on a girl with average face but knockout body from Butterflies (I think that is the name, 3rd floor Nana). Our chemistry in the bar was excellent and only improved in my hotel. Agreed price was 2000 baht, but she stayed for about 4 hours so I gave her 3000 baht plus 200 as I put her in the taxi. The drawback of Butterflies is the 1000 baht bar fine, I don't Remember that much at Suzy Wong.
What I think I learned from those 2 nights is to let the girl do the first round of screening of me. If I don't pass the first screening with a girl that appeals to me, move on to the next bar. When I did this process on Wednesday I drank too much beer. On Thursday I never drank more than half a beer and switched to Coke at the end.You may have got lucky. I think it has to be mutual. There are some shit girls that will come on real strong. I hate the pushy ones in particular. If the girl gives a fun impression without being too pushy, that is better.
One buddy aged about 65 once went to Suzi Wong with me. He was immediately approached by Noon (Nun). She was a well known aggressive girl in the bar with a body like a tank with two coconuts bolted on. For me, ugly (not slim at all). To some others, shapely (LOL) meaning the implants. The buddy was too nice. He did not know how to escape from a pushy girl. In the End he barfined her and reported the next day that she was crap on the bed. I had warned him not to take her. This was after he had already married and later divorced a Thai girl he met on his first day in Thailand, costing him over half of his savings. So I would have thought he would learn to be more careful. Personally I don't like girls to come to me uncalled for. I prefer to take my time to evaluate which girls I like best.
Plenty of girls could eye me up. I don't really read too much into that. If a girl refuses to look at you, it can be a bad sign though, or especially if looks somewhere else when sees you approaching. That is what I get often in the Thermae from girls wanting Japanese customers.
I've been in Thailand for 3 weeks and have just a 5 days left. I want to experience each category of sex at least one time. So far I've had non-working girls (freebies, ThaiFriendly plus a friend met on prior trip), soapy massage, oily massage, street walker FL, bikini bar girls, and Thermae FL girls. I still want to experience an escort and a BJ bar on this trip.
Are there any other general categories that I am missing? I'm not interested in anything that is too kinky, like groups larger than 3-some or a ladyboy.You could try a kapoo club massage place. There is a kapoo club web board that has lots of info, but you will have to use the translate feature on your computer if you have one. They are all over town in almost every neighborhood. It's basically a body to body massage from a very young and hot girl. The quality of girls is very good. Only an HJ is on offer but I have procured much more on most occasions. Some places offer multiple shots (and it is shop policy) also, and those are the only ones I return to. There are also sauna and massage places. You can pay 200 baht for access to the large sauna, hot tub, cold pool, and gym. Free snacks are offered also! Then afterwards you can choose a girl from the fishbowl. It's a good way to get rid of a hangover! Ten massage and sauna has the exact setup I just described. Ten Sauna is in Ratchada around the Huay Kwang BTS. But I would take a motorbike taxi over (or taxi).
I've been in Thailand for 3 weeks and have just a 5 days left. I want to experience each category of sex at least one time. So far I've had non-working girls (freebies, ThaiFriendly plus a friend met on prior trip), soapy massage, oily massage, street walker FL, bikini bar girls, and Thermae FL girls. I still want to experience an escort and a BJ bar on this trip.
Try afterskool in soi cowboy for a BJ. They have a naughty corner at the end of the bar. That's if you don't want to go far from there. Other BJ bars have also been written about on this site.
YetAnotherGuy
11-03-17, 07:30
This is a very short stay in Bangkok, so I have only a few notes.
Twister is its usual almost-awesome self. One feature saving it from actual awesome-hood is the difficulty of seeing all the girls from any one spot. Good luck with that. Adding to the problem is that many of the girls always dance in exactly the same spot, facing the same direction. If you try to walk around to take a look, your seat will be gone by the time you get back. Also, some girls don't barfine, including the knockout #8, sigh. Still my favorite spot, though.
The best currency exchange I found is Vasu Exchange, very close to the Nana BTS station, across the street from Subway / Sunrise Bistro. The margin between the buy and sell price for USD is only 6 baht, which is hard to beat.
You can in fact get Sagami condoms in the pharmacy on the Sukhumvit / soi 4 corner on the suk side before you turn into Soi 4 before Nana place.
Thanks XXL!
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?Personally, I prefer Pattaya soapies. They still do the slip'n'slide on the plastic mattresses, if that's what you want to experience.
I also heard that Bangkok soapies would do it if you requested it. I used to enjoy them a lot 10/15 years ago, but not so much these days, but I still do one or two sessions on each trip.
Crocodilexp
11-03-17, 08:15
I've been in Thailand for 3 weeks and have just a 5 days left. I want to experience each category of sex at least one time. So far I've had non-working girls (freebies, ThaiFriendly plus a friend met on prior trip), soapy massage, oily massage, street walker FL, bikini bar girls, and Thermae FL girls. I still want to experience an escort and a BJ bar on this trip.
Are there any other general categories that I am missing? I'm not interested in anything that is too kinky, like groups larger than 3-some or a ladyboy.Regarding BJ bars, definitely try Star of Light at Patpong. Not everyone's favorite, but it's the reference BJ bar where action still takes place in the open (not a room upstairs) unless you opt for their free VIP room.
I presume in the "oily massage" category you checked out one of the PSE places (Tulip, Snow White, Cherry). Although they look outwardly similar to most oilies, service puts them in a separate category.
As for general categories, Thai brothels (ST hotel next to Hua Chiew hospital) and low-end streetwalkers (say, in Yaowarat area around Wong Wian Yeesip Song traffic circle) are a world apart. A quickie is around 500 baht. Surely something for the bucket list, although not beginner friendly.
I've been in Thailand for 3 weeks and have just a 5 days left. I want to experience each category of sex at least one time. So far I've had non-working girls (freebies, ThaiFriendly plus a friend met on prior trip), soapy massage, oily massage, street walker FL, bikini bar girls, and Thermae FL girls. I still want to experience an escort and a BJ bar on this trip.
Are there any other general categories that I am missing? I'm not interested in anything that is too kinky, like groups larger than 3-some or a ladyboy.A freebie in Thailand? That's not easy to come by. I've never had that in Thailand.
If you haven't tried having a girl eat out your ass, you can try Akane massage on soi 33.
You could try a kapoo club massage place. There is a kapoo club web board that has lots of info, but you will have to use the translate feature on your computer if you have one. They are all over town in almost every neighborhood. It's basically a body to body massage from a very young and hot girl. The quality of girls is very good. Only an HJ is on offer but I have procured much more on most occasions. Some places offer multiple shots (and it is shop policy) also, and those are the only ones I return to. There are also sauna and massage places. You can pay 200 baht for access to the large sauna, hot tub, cold pool, and gym. Free snacks are offered also! Then afterwards you can choose a girl from the fishbowl. It's a good way to get rid of a hangover! Ten massage and sauna has the exact setup I just described. Ten Sauna is in Ratchada around the Huay Kwang BTS. But I would take a motorbike taxi over (or taxi).Which Kapoo places would you suggest that offer multiple shots? Also could not find any information on Ten Sauna. Location? Cost for extras? Thanks in advance.
HorseTrader
11-03-17, 10:58
A freebie in Thailand? That's not easy to come by. I've never had that in Thailand.One of my freebies was from a girl I met during a prior trip aboard a ferry boat. Ended up spending many days together during that trip and a few hours together during this trip. The other freebie was a ThaiFriendly girl who I had been working on for months prior to my travels. In both cases I spent the normal date money such as restaurants. Both are looking for a western husband, which could conceivably happen with me.
I have to keep reminding myself that the most expensive pussy is free pussy.
Which Kapoo places would you suggest that offer multiple shots? Also could not find any information on Ten Sauna. Location? Cost for extras? Thanks in advance.So if you google "kapoo club web board", you will find the forum that breaks all the Kapoo places down by different neighborhoods around Bangkok. Or here is the link http://www.kapooclubwebboard.net/forum/index.php.
You will have to google translate every page on your computer. Then if you click on any of the individual shops listed you will be in their forum with all of their details, location, advertised specials, pics and names of girls, etc. Some of the shops will advertise "unlimited water" in the details for the duration of session chosen. Those are your multi-pop places. I live on Chaengwattanna Rd. And frequent those Kapoo clubs in that area. Sorry, I don't have many personal experiences around the more central areas of Bangkok. Looking at the web board I can see Kapoo places all over town. But almost all of the Kapoo clubs in my area are multi-shot places. Pricing ranges from 1000 to 1800 for 90 min. So maybe a stopover after a trip to immigration is due so some of the ISG readers, hehehe! I can personally recommend Geisha, Aiei spa, and Zapa. All 3 of those are multi-shot places with Geisha in Pakkret being my favorite.
Just google Ten Sauna Bangkok and that should work. But here is the link to their facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ten-%E0%B8%8B%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%B2/164501003592983..
The sauna side is for men only. They provide everything including lockers, shorts, towels, free tea, free fruit snacks, and the rest of the facilities for around 200 baht. The fishbowl is visible from the front desk. The girls are average, but you only pay for the massage (average oil massage prices), and the extra's will be paid to the girl. So you will have to negotiate that in the room. But the standard 500 HJ, 1000 BJ, 1500 for everything applies here also. I enjoy the sauna more than anything else, but it's nice to have to the option for action so easy if you feel the urge.
I used to have a better place where it was just a sauna facility as described above, attached to a soapy MP that catered more to locals (pale skinned expensive stunners), but it closed this year. But Ten Sauna is still the same sort of set up. Everyone seems to be welcome with no hesitation.
I hope my info gives some new Bangkok options for other people. I've tried most of the P4 P options around town based on info from ISG, but I'm always hunting for more options just because I enjoy the hunt. I also live in an area that caters only to the locals where P4 P in concerned. So it's kind of fun and exciting to see what doors I end up walking through. I haven't been turned away anywhere.
One of my freebies was from a girl I met during a prior trip aboard a ferry boat. Ended up spending many days together during that trip and a few hours together during this trip. The other freebie was a ThaiFriendly girl who I had been working on for months prior to my travels. In both cases I spent the normal date money such as restaurants. Both are looking for a western husband, which could conceivably happen with me.
I have to keep reminding myself that the most expensive pussy is free pussy.Yes, the free pussy variety also has it's own set of hidden costs! Thai friendly has freebie opportunities galore. It takes a bit of work messaging back and forth, but every girl I've ever met in person I've fucked that night. And usually by the time you meet them you might actually like their personality. Or at least, like them enough to enjoy their company for the night. There are many semi-pros, which I welcome with open arms, 555! But those are the most expensive variety because you take them out for the night, and then have to pay them for the deed later. I have had one of the most gorgeous girls of my life after a night like that. She told me that she would need some money for her time after we got back to the hotel room. Which I had no problem with. Then she started doing some Game of Thrones role playing without me even requesting it. That was a good night!
Crazy4Thai
11-03-17, 12:45
So if you google "kapoo club web board", you will find the forum that breaks all the Kapoo places down by different neighborhoods around Bangkok. Or here is the link http://www.kapooclubwebboard.net/forum/index.php.
You will have to google translate every page on your computer. ..........
I hope my info gives some new Bangkok options for other people. I've tried most of the P4 P options around town based on info from ISG, but I'm always hunting for more options just because I enjoy the hunt. I also live in an area that caters only to the locals where P4 P in concerned. So it's kind of fun and exciting to see what doors I end up walking through. I haven't been turned away anywhere.It is not often that I see NEW info on this very mature board. Thanks for posting this. How much Thai language does one need when you pass through those doors? I assume one would need some ability. Personally, I can usually get by though I am far from fluent.
So if you google "kapoo club web board", you will find the forum that breaks all the Kapoo places down by different neighborhoods around Bangkok. Or here is the link http://www.kapooclubwebboard.net/forum/index.php.
You will have to google translate every page on your computer. Then if you click on any of the individual shops listed you will be in their forum with all of their details, location, advertised specials, pics and names of girls, etc. Some of the shops will advertise "unlimited water" in the details for the duration of session chosen. Those are your multi-pop places. I live on Chaengwattanna Rd. And frequent those Kapoo clubs in that area. Sorry, I don't have many personal experiences around the more central areas of Bangkok. Looking at the web board I can see Kapoo places all over town. But almost all of the Kapoo clubs in my area are multi-shot places. Pricing ranges from 1000 to 1800 for 90 min. So maybe a stopover after a trip to immigration is due so some of the ISG readers, hehehe! I can personally recommend Geisha, Aiei spa, and Zapa. All 3 of those are multi-shot places with Geisha in Pakkret being my favorite.
Just google Ten Sauna Bangkok and that should work. But here is the link to their facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ten-%E0%B8%8B%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%B2/164501003592983..
The sauna side is for men only. They provide everything including lockers, shorts, towels, free tea, free fruit snacks, and the rest of the facilities for around 200 baht. The fishbowl is visible from the front desk. The girls are average, but you only pay for the massage (average oil massage prices), and the extra's will be paid to the girl. So you will have to negotiate that in the room. But the standard 500 HJ, 1000 BJ, 1500 for everything applies here also. I enjoy the sauna more than anything else, but it's nice to have to the option for action so easy if you feel the urge.
I used to have a better place where it was just a sauna facility as described above, attached to a soapy MP that catered more to locals (pale skinned expensive stunners), but it closed this year. But Ten Sauna is still the same sort of set up. Everyone seems to be welcome with no hesitation.
I hope my info gives some new Bangkok options for other people. I've tried most of the P4 P options around town based on info from ISG, but I'm always hunting for more options just because I enjoy the hunt. I also live in an area that caters only to the locals where P4 P in concerned. So it's kind of fun and exciting to see what doors I end up walking through. I haven't been turned away anywhere.Wow. Very impressive report. Great special Intel. Jaeng Watthana does seem a strange area to have to live in, but good to see you get by, even if have to venture to Huay Khwang.
I was trying to reverse engineer "Unlimited Water" to what the Thai should be (I know Thai love euphemisms). I could only guess something like "Mai Jamgut Naam". Actually multi-pops (or waters) is of no interest to me. I am happy if I get a good time and one good pop, but have no interest in HJs at all.
Have only a few important questions. What percentage of the Kapoo girls are will to give DFK? I suspect low. What percentage are giving full sex? What percentage are scared of you, or at least failing to be relaxed? I have assumed you are Farang but that may not be correct. Can I go to a Kapoo with no interest in getting a massage other than the type using tits, ass, mouth and pussy?
I am surprised that people want to take a sauna in Thailand. Only the Finns I thought. LOL
So if you google "kapoo club web board", you will find the forum that breaks all the Kapoo places down by different neighborhoods around Bangkok. Or here is the link http://www.kapooclubwebboard.net/forum/index.php.
You will have to google translate every page on your computer. Then if you click on any of the individual shops listed you will be in their forum with all of their details, location, advertised specials, pics and names of girls, etc. Some of the shops will advertise "unlimited water" in the details for the duration of session chosen. Those are your multi-pop places. I live on Chaengwattanna Rd. And frequent those Kapoo clubs in that area. Sorry, I don't have many personal experiences around the more central areas of Bangkok. Looking at the web board I can see Kapoo places all over town. But almost all of the Kapoo clubs in my area are multi-shot places. Pricing ranges from 1000 to 1800 for 90 min. So maybe a stopover after a trip to immigration is due so some of the ISG readers, hehehe! I can personally recommend Geisha, Aiei spa, and Zapa. All 3 of those are multi-shot places with Geisha in Pakkret being my favorite.
Just google Ten Sauna Bangkok and that should work. But here is the link to their facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ten-%E0%B8%8B%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%B2/164501003592983..
The sauna side is for men only. They provide everything including lockers, shorts, towels, free tea, free fruit snacks, and the rest of the facilities for around 200 baht. The fishbowl is visible from the front desk. The girls are average, but you only pay for the massage (average oil massage prices), and the extra's will be paid to the girl. So you will have to negotiate that in the room. But the standard 500 HJ, 1000 BJ, 1500 for everything applies here also. I enjoy the sauna more than anything else, but it's nice to have to the option for action so easy if you feel the urge.
I used to have a better place where it was just a sauna facility as described above, attached to a soapy MP that catered more to locals (pale skinned expensive stunners), but it closed this year. But Ten Sauna is still the same sort of set up. Everyone seems to be welcome with no hesitation.
I hope my info gives some new Bangkok options for other people. I've tried most of the P4 P options around town based on info from ISG, but I'm always hunting for more options just because I enjoy the hunt. I also live in an area that caters only to the locals where P4 P in concerned. So it's kind of fun and exciting to see what doors I end up walking through. I haven't been turned away anywhere.Thanks so much for the in depth explanation. Will explore.
Then she started doing some Game of Thrones role playing without me even requesting it. I've never seen Game of Thrones. What would role playing based on that entail? Just curious.
Blanquiceleste
11-03-17, 15:57
So if you google "kapoo club web board", you will find the forum that breaks all the Kapoo places down by different neighborhoods around Bangkok. Or here is the link http://www.kapooclubwebboard.net/forum/index.php.
You will have to google translate every page on your computer. Then if you click on any of the individual shops listed you will be in their forum with all of their details, location, advertised specials, pics and names of girls, etc. Some of the shops will advertise "unlimited water" in the details for the duration of session chosen. Those are your multi-pop places. I live on Chaengwattanna Rd. And frequent those Kapoo clubs in that area. Sorry, I don't have many personal experiences around the more central areas of Bangkok. Looking at the web board I can see Kapoo places all over town. But almost all of the Kapoo clubs in my area are multi-shot places. Pricing ranges from 1000 to 1800 for 90 min. So maybe a stopover after a trip to immigration is due so some of the ISG readers, hehehe! I can personally recommend Geisha, Aiei spa, and Zapa. All 3 of those are multi-shot places with Geisha in Pakkret being my favorite..This report comes as a whiff of fresh air after all the min numbing discussions on this board. Thank you so much.
Also, it has piqued the curiosity of several members. It will be good to buy into some Kapoo Club stock! LOL.
This report comes as a whiff of fresh air after all the min numbing discussions on this board. Thank you so much.
Also, it has piqued the curiosity of several members. It will be good to buy into some Kapoo Club stock! LOL.These places have the best looking, youngest, baby free ladies without surgery for the most part. The fact that the HJ is the only thing included keeps most western mongers away from these places. But those HJ boundaries fade quickly even without money being offered up. But if everything is offered I pay more of course. I still frequent oilys, Gogo bars, BJ bars, beer bars, etc. I just like the variety and appreciate the many P4 P options available in the LOS. Thanks for info from everyone else!
TrueBlue666
11-03-17, 19:12
Long time lurker, but I'm fairly certain this is my first report, so bare with me.
Started the night out early, round 1830; went looking for 7 heaven, the BJ Bar. It's either closed / gone now or I'm blind, but I swear I searched Soi 33 up and down, so that was disappointing. Since I was wandering around on that side of T21 round 1915, I decided to walk down to Soi Cowboy. Soi Cowboy is not my favourite of the gogo areas, but I always have had a fondness for Baccara. I arrived there around 1925, which I know is rather early, but it was already packed with both girls and Japaneses by 2000. There were a lot of hot bodies, but most suffered from "but-her-face" syndrome. I might be overly picky, but that's a deal breaker for me. The ones with cute faces were just so ridiculously skinny. I ended up leaving after my second drink at around 2140. I decided to head over to Nana; like I said, SC is not my favourite, so I didn't really bother with say Sharks or CH.
My first stop was Enter. It was a ghost town (customer wise) at 2155. Me, another white guy, and an Asian were pretty much the only ones there. There were some cute ones, but none so cute that I just had to have them, so I left after finishing my first beer like 15 minutes later and went next door to Billboard. I think maybe I just got there too late (2210), because all of the girls I would have considered BF'ing were with someone else. There weren't very many of those either. Maybe Friday night just wasn't a good choice and the hotties were off doing their own thing or maybe it was a fluke. I'll probably try again tomorrow. Before I go further, I'll say my preferred type is a cute face with a grab-able ass; I tend to only go for early 20's gals at that; large tits are more of a nice addition rather than something I bother looking for. At any rate, I went back to Enter.
When I got in this time, one of the servers ended up hassling me to grab a girl (which normally just prompts me to leave), so I decided "what the hell" and grabbed the cutest one I could see. She was short-ish, 23 years old, with a great ass, and convinced that she had a Korean girl's face. I mean, shape wise, maybe, but certainly not in tone or complexion (she was a bit dark), but she was certainly cute with naturals certainly larger than a typical Korean gal. After a couple of LD's and a couple of shots, I decided to take her back to ye olde hotel. We got to it pretty quickly after showering. She wasn't crazy enthusiastic, but I think I was bigger than she expected, still she did let me put her in whatever position I wanted. Honestly, I think half our time together was spent horizontal, and the other half was spent teaching her to better pronounce English words, at her request. I don't remember her ever quoting a price, but I liked her, so I passed her 3500 for short time, which she had no complaints about. I don't remember what the BF was, but I remember it being higher than what I would have liked and commenting on that fact to no real gain. I probably won't be back to Enter. I don't like being one of 5 customers, it leads to the staff being pushy and awkward staring from dancers. I'll probably just go to BB earlier, may give Baccara another chance, too. I think this may have just been an odd night, I'm used to there being far more lookers at both places.
Dextro Sol
11-03-17, 20:52
On my last visit in Bkk a couple of weeks ago I picked a girl outside NP for the first time. I was sitting at Hooters and had a good look at her waiting customers. Very slim body and what I think is a good looking face. She was very shy first time but was really good in bed anyway, and very good BBBJ. Repeated 3 times (I like to repeat when I find a good one) Attach a picture of her. You will not have a PSE with her, but I liked it a lot. Name is Porn. Be nice and gentle with her!!
Popped up from Pattaya to spend a few days in BKK. First thing you notice is how much traffic there is and that getting around requires planning. Still I have been here many times so you know what you are getting.
I was with a wingman who had not been here before so decided to take him to the Beer Garden on Soi 7 mid afternoon. Had no intention on grabbing a girl as I just had a great morning session in Pattaya. However the best laid (pardon the pun) plans can go off the rails and I met a cutie who was keen to be nasty with me. Decided to spend an hour in my hotel with her while my wingman also took a girl for short time. It was a fun hour with a lot a exploring of bodies and plenty of affection. All in all a nice way to spend some time.
We then hit Nana and found ourselves in Twister gogo. Firstly, I think the gogos in Pattaya are beter (IMHO) and cannot recall seeing the girls in mobile phones while on stage in Pattaya. Here it seems an acceptable practice. Anyway, I spotted a cutie while my wingman and another friend also grabbed some girls. We spent the next few hours grinding and groping the girls who were really good fun. I bar fined mine and we all headed off to a few more bars. The overall quality of the girls in Twister was average I would say.
After a few more hours of grinding on a dance floor it was time to take my date back for some real fun. After I showered she then came out of the bathroom naked and revealed an amazing set of real beasts. I thought I was going to be looking at bolt ONS but these were amazing. After performing a very long DATY to get her juicy wet, on went the cover and on she hopped. The sight of her grinding me while I had a mouthful of her beasts was driving me nuts. I flipped her over so that I could finish with a mish while watching her breats shake in sync with me thrusting into her pussy. Talk about a turn on! Gave her the money shot and we fell asleep exhausted. I got her line and will look her up again.
So day 1 over and one more day on the tour left. Got to love Thailand.
Happy Hunting.
HorseTrader
11-04-17, 05:34
On Thursday night I had a great time at Butterflies. I gave tips to various girls, including my server and mamasan when I did a bar fine (200 baht tip to mamasan). Absolutely nobody asked for a tip. All was good.
On Friday I returned to see my favorite girl. Various servers who did nothing for me were demanding tips. The server who brought a lady drink insisted that I also buy a drink for her (she wouldn't leave until I agreed to the servers drink). The worst was when last night's mamasan sat on the sofa with my lady and me and demanded a tip. When I gave her 40 baht she gave me a dirty look that was clearly intended to suck more money from my wallet. I refused and she started to complain in Thai. Finally I picked up my bill cup and called the server to pay my bill so I could just leave; that finally got mamasan to disappear for the rest if the evening.
So, here is the question. What do other customers do regarding tipping and drinks for servers and others that provided no direct value to me? The one that pissed me off the most was the prior night's mamasan who did nothing for me that evening.
On Thursday night I had a great time at Butterflies. I gave tips to various girls, including my server and mamasan when I did a bar fine (200 baht tip to mamasan). Absolutely nobody asked for a tip. All was good.
On Friday I returned to see my favorite girl. Various servers who did nothing for me were demanding tips. The server who brought a lady drink insisted that I also buy a drink for her (she wouldn't leave until I agreed to the servers drink). The worst was when last night's mamasan sat on the sofa with my lady and me and demanded a tip. When I gave her 40 baht she gave me a dirty look that was clearly intended to suck more money from my wallet. I refused and she started to complain in Thai. Finally I picked up my bill cup and called the server to pay my bill so I could just leave; that finally got mamasan to disappear for the rest if the evening.
So, here is the question. What do other customers do regarding tipping and drinks for servers and others that provided no direct value to me? The one that pissed me off the most was the prior night's mamasan who did nothing for me that evening.For people that did nothing for you, tip should be zero. Special help, can give a tip, if you think she deserves. That encourages help in the future.
Normal tip for mamasan when BF the girl is 100. They are not so happy with 40 as you pointed out.
Banana Boi
11-04-17, 06:33
On Thursday night I had a great time at Butterflies. I gave tips to various girls, including my server and mamasan when I did a bar fine (200 baht tip to mamasan). Absolutely nobody asked for a tip. All was good.For me I will never tip a mamasan. Why would I? I also leave only the coins or a 20 baht bill for the bar. There are many times the bar got nothing. For the wait staff, I will directly hand the waitress I like anywhere from 20 to 100 baht so they get to keep it, not the bar. If the waitress is hot (very rare) and DFK'ing me all night then she will get more.
Largest tip I had for a waitress is in Phnom Penh when she had sex with me in the back of the bar. She got $20 US and was ecstatic since she was having sex because she wanted to, not for money.
On a related topic, why are the waitresses in Pattaya gogo clubs almost always fat and butt ugly? Even some average looking girls would be appreciated.
On a related topic, why are the waitresses in Pattaya gogo clubs almost always fat and butt ugly? Even some average looking girls would be appreciated.Because no one wants to pay to fuck them. Why would a good looking girl want to work as a gogo bar waitress in Pattaya. She could work in a restaurant or hotel. In the modern day, the trend in Bangkok is for better looking girls to work as Coyotes (that don't go for fuck) even though they don't know how to dance like Coyotes. Not many waitresses are pretty enough to actually fuck.
I considered fucking my long time regular CH waitress a few months back after she went to work in Corner bar, but I was concerned that while she seemed to have big tits, the rest of body could be bad. She wasn't as curvy from waist to thigh as what I normally expect. I would wish to do some groping first I think, to check out the ass, belly and tits. Face was not exactly stunning. Pass with makeup, sort of. I believe she had several kids already (at a guess).
Banana Boi
11-04-17, 07:43
Because no one wants to pay to fuck them. Why would a good looking girl want to work as a gogo bar waitress in Pattaya. I'm not asking for good looking. I'm only asking for ones who are not utterly repulsive. Ones who don't make my stomach churn. Walk into Infinity in Pattaya and you will see what I mean.
Why would a good looking girl want to work as a gogo bar waitress in Pattaya.It happens. Usually when the girl is young and too shy to take off her clothes in public just yet. They are normally working as dancers soon enough. There was one girl who I considered an absolute stunner (other than her stomach) who worked as a gogo bar waitress. The reason she didn't work as a gogo girl is because she had a kid with her ex thai husband and was ashamed of the stretch marks on her stomach so she didn't want to expose that. Other than her stomach, this girl was unbelievably beautiful. She used to get more bar fines than the dancers. She is now married to a fairly wealthy man and living in California. She really hit the jackpot because the guy completely accepted her kid as well. Last I saw on facebook, the guy was giving her kid (now teenage) flying lessons in his private airplane.
I'm not asking for good looking. I'm only asking for ones who are not utterly repulsive. Ones who don't make my stomach churn. Walk into Infinity in Pattaya and you will see what I mean.You should be totally oblivious by now. I never rate the looks of waiting staff simply because it just does not register. In any monger venue, you should have developed the focus to be on the top 3 to 5 girls and ignore everything else. I can ignore really bad girls in a bar or a really bad mamasan, whatever. Takes someone to be persistently in my face to really bother me. Massively fat waitresses can still provide good service and intel. I don't care about their looks since I don't need every girl to be fuckable.
Same like in an FKK club, you rate the girls by the best 5, and absolutely ignore all the uglies and buffaloes. Even at the Lord I am going to restrict myself to looking at the best 3 lookers, then get a shock when I hear the prices LOL. In the Thermae, I think this attitude counts against me, since it is a challenge for me to get any of the best naturally looking slim 3 in the place, and get a GFE from them.
So I think you just need a change of attitude to be accepting all the uglies, so it just does not stick in the brain. If the dancing girls in the gogo are all butt ugly, that is a totally different thing, and can happen.
Must admit it was a bit much when very ugly non dancing staff in Suzie Wong wanted to show off their tits or pussy to me when I had no interest whatsoever. No I did not really want to touch the fat waitresses tits (maybe she hoped for a tip).
Crazy House had some nice looking ass and crack on the sleek girls dancing nude last night (not every night. It is quite variable), however I was only window shopping briefly. Start of the month is a good time, since girls need money for the rent and the better girls are more likely to show up. I think my waitress was fat. Ugly too? I just can't remember. My focus was on the stage more so. Had to leave when the shows come on because the show girls are pretty horrible standard. They do shows to try to get tips since they are probably not good looking enough to get BFed. The shows are well worth missing if possible.
Shark bar has a good policy. Waitresses are not allowed to sit with customers, so there is no chance of an ugly waitress wanting to sit next to you. I have my special waitress there who is actually in reasonable shape for a girl probably close to 40. Good for intel (she once worked at Suzie Wong so has known me for years). I think any bar, if you find a good waitress, then can get extra good service by buying her a drink and the odd tip, that is if you are looking for extra good service. Worthwhile if find the non hassling type. I never take to pushy girls at all.
TrueBlue666
11-04-17, 09:29
Started the night out early, round 1830; went looking for 7 heaven, the BJ Bar. It's either closed / gone now or I'm blind, but I swear I searched Soi 33 up and down, so that was disappointing.
-snip-So, I went back and found it today. I guess I went to the wrong Sukhumviit Soi 33? It was clearly labeled Soi 33, so I don't know what the hell was going on. At any rate, 7 Heaven was amazing. The gals were really cute, especially for a BJ bar. I wish I remembered the name of the gal I picked (they show you an ipad and you pick from pictures that were actually rather accurate just like a Japanese place across the water. Anyways, after we got started upstairs in the private area, she got me so good that my fingertips and toes went numb. I've never had that happen from pleasure in my entire life, so at first I thought I was having a stroke, which had me both pissed and amazed. Pissed, because I'm too young to have a stroke (28)! Amazed, because holy hell she gave me a stroke. Anyways, it kinda prevented me from actually "finishing" in the traditional sense but it was somehow even better, so it didn't bother me. Worth every baht (1300 BHT).
Blanquiceleste
11-04-17, 10:16
Popped up from Pattaya to spend a few days in BKK.
SNIP
So day 1 over and one more day on the tour left. Got to love Thailand.Seems like the good fortune from Pattaya has followed you to BKK. It always amazes me how quickly time passes on a holiday.
Reminds me of an Eagles number.
One day they're here.
The next day they're gone.
Firstly, I think the gogos in Pattaya are beter (IMHO) and cannot recall seeing the girls in mobile phones while on stage in Pattaya. Here it seems an acceptable practice.Absolutely ridiculous, I agree. But I will blame the mongers who tolerate this. If all the mongers patronizing these bars start complaining about this atrocious practice, then the mamasans might heed and instruct the girls accordingly.
Blanquiceleste
11-04-17, 10:19
On Thursday night I had a great time at Butterflies. I gave tips to various girls, including my server and mamasan when I did a bar fine (200 baht tip to mamasan). Absolutely nobody asked for a tip. All was good.
On Friday I returned to see my favorite girl. Various servers who did nothing for me were demanding tips. The server who brought a lady drink insisted that I also buy a drink for her (she wouldn't leave until I agreed to the servers drink). The worst was when last night's mamasan sat on the sofa with my lady and me and demanded a tip. When I gave her 40 baht she gave me a dirty look that was clearly intended to suck more money from my wallet. I refused and she started to complain in Thai. Finally I picked up my bill cup and called the server to pay my bill so I could just leave; that finally got mamasan to disappear for the rest if the evening.
So, here is the question. What do other customers do regarding tipping and drinks for servers and others that provided no direct value to me? The one that pissed me off the most was the prior night's mamasan who did nothing for me that evening.Have you heard of Pavlov's dog and his experiments on Conditioning? These dogs in BKK GoGos learn much faster.
Frankly, I never tip anyone who does not do anything for me. If I tip, it is always 50 or less.
AS for buying drinks for anyone except the girl I am groping, it is a strict NO. I am there to monger, not win a popularity contest.
Mr Celeste,
What you are doing is absolutely correct.
Unnecessary tipping jack-ups the prices.
Have you heard of Pavlov's dog and his experiments on Conditioning? These dogs in BKK GoGos learn much faster.
Frankly, I never tip anyone who does not do anything for me. If I tip, it is always 50 or less.
AS for buying drinks for anyone except the girl I am groping, it is a strict NO. I am there to monger, not win a popularity contest.
HorseTrader
11-04-17, 17:09
Normal tip for mamasan when BF the girl is 100. They are not so happy with 40 as you pointed out.By tipping mamasan 200 when I bar fined a girl, mamasan and the waitresses probably consider me an easy mark when they did nothing.
On the good side, I exchanged Line information with my favorite girl and she is on her way to my hotel right now. No bar fine. No drinks. No tips to mamasan.
Gave After Skool a visit for the 1st time Friday night. I made it there after not really getting anything going at Nana (beer bars and Spanky's). The girls are actually pretty quality at Spanky's, but I didn't get a decent spark goIng with any of them. Met another guy at the bar just bull-shitting and decided to move on to Crazy House. This guy orders a coke at CH that costs 165 baht! He rightfully complains, but took it a bit overboard and totally pissed off every staff member within 10 meters. The waitress was flipping him off and I totally expected the bouncers to throw him out on his head. I paid for my beer and bailed since I figured my odds were totally shot from that point on in CH. The angry waitress took my cash and still politely wai'd to me.
So I hastily exited and hopped into Afterskool. I had a pretty good time actually. The place isn't as dingy as I thought it would be from the descriptions. And the girls are better looking there than at most of the other BJ bars I've been to. A lot of attention and petting is poured on instantly as soon as you take a seat. I bought a couple lady drinks for 2 girls. Then decided it would be a good idea to get a BJ from both girls. I don't think that it's necessary for me, by I checked a couple more boxes on the list. Getting blown by 2 girls at the bar in full view of everyone else. Eventually we moved over to the naughty boy corner. I never thought that I would be into sex acts in public, but it's kinda exciting! The girl that finished me off took CIM. My only regret is that I didn't have the other girl sucking my balls as the other took the load, 555! The BJ was ok skill wise for both. Not amazing, but maybe not as good as I expected from a BJ bar. But having 2 girls swap made it a lot better.
Another guy directly seated in view of the corner had 2 girls also on the booth seats. Getting blown by one and he was eating out the other. Both girls wanted 1000 from me. I made them split 1500. The biggest shocker was the bar tab! 165 baht beers (I think) and 230 baht lady drinks add up quick. Most other BJ bars are much cheaper on drinks, but the girls are uglier. I usually don't spend too much of my night in Cowboy or Nana. I can throw down the beers, so dropping 3000 on beers and lady drinks is usually the minimum. Either way, I like a night like that occasionally and never usually regret it.
PrithviReddy
11-04-17, 18:19
Hello Seniors,
I am having a layover in Bangkok on my international travel and I will be landing around 6:30 AM and leaving by 4:30 PM which probably gives me around 6 hours to road around the city. Can you guys suggest what areas or places I can visit. I want to experience what Bangkok has to offer (massage, FS, etc) in the short while for I may not come here anytime soon.
Thank you.
AS for buying drinks for anyone except the girl I am groping, it is a strict NO. I am there to monger, not win a popularity contest.I pick one mamasan from each bar and buy her drinks each time I visit. They get to know me and take care of me. The mamasans in those bars normally hook me up with the hottest girl in the bar. Often times, I just ask them for the nicest girl in the bar and they will bring me a girl from the back I hadn't even seen yet who is stunning. I figure it's well worth the investment of buying the drinks. I also like to have the girl bring one of her friends over. I normally have 2 girls seated with me at all times and buy drinks for both. I like to feel up both of them while I watch the shows. I rarely bar fine 2, but I like to have a girl on each arm in the bar. They usually get a little wilder too when I have 2 drinking with me rather than 1. Then again, it's rare I don't spend at least 5000 baht during the night on drinks.
The Thailand tour comes to an end but the final day was well worth it. I started by playing pool at Hillary around 1 pm. Before selecting my lady to play with I took my time looking over the girls. Usually the day time numbers and talent is thin but I noticed a lot more girls and some were ok. The older ones kept pestering me but I ignored their constant " where you from" opening lines. Finally found one that I wanted to talk to and play pool with. As usual she was a pool shark but I am a handy player as well. After a few hours I decided that I would bar fine her and spend some time playing a different game.
Back in the hotel she showered and revealed a large set of natural breast. I looked and thought to myself that this is the first time I have done two Thai women in a row that had naturally large breasts. She was a pure delight in the sack. Great BBBJ and allowed me perform DATY. Once she came and the pussy was juicy I popped the cover on and proceeded to have a fantastic session. Many positions and finally gave her the money short doggy style while she played with herself. Two things about this for me. Firstly, she was not really a GFE and that usually means I do not come as I am not really a wham bam man. However she was so wet and into it that the sight of her arse and me squeezing those natural breasts did the trick. Secondly, she was not my usual style in that she was a little older than I would take. However again she just had something that worked and I have leantmto go with the flow.
Met up with my wingman later and we had dinner at the place a little down the road on Soi 4. We then popped into Hillary 2 and although a little early, being a Saturday night there was action. A few lookers there but it was too early to take out and I had just finished a session anyway. After a few hours we met up with three other guys at Spasso. It was still early and we proceeded to tell our touring tales and get on the way to being drunk. The talent started to roll in progressively and I must admit that there was not that much that interested me, may have been the fact that I had a nice session earlier so was not as fired up to get a girl. The girls present well and are not shy to approach and we had a lot buzzing around us. We headed for MIxx which was in full swing. A lot of nice talent out and we all found a date for the night. Again a first for me in Thailand and something that I must admit even surprised me. When in Asia I like to do Asian but I got fasinated by an EE who had a certain style to her. Had a body that was my thing and spoke in that sexy EE accent. After a few hours I decided that she was going to be my final departing gift to myself. I have learnt over the years to ensure the short time girls understand the rules of the session. So we got down to business negotiated terms. I let her know my expectations and that if she performed to them then a I would give her a good tip. Yes I Know that most would say that you should go Europe if you want EE but I have been traveling to Asia for many years and the option of soemthing else was there, so why not? Besides I had just spent 5 days in Pattaya fucking a lot of Thai girls.
Back at the hotel I was surprised how relaxed and talkative she was. Usually the EEs are all business but we spent some time just talking. Finally she got a undressed to reveal a very curly figure with fake breast that looked and felt normal. This was a good boob job. In short, she provided a real GFE and was into the DATY I provided. Fantastic BBBJ was followed by many positions. Finsihed with mish. She was all woman and is the sort that you could fuck and fuck and still want more. Got her line and will look her up when next in BKK.
So the tour ends and I go back to normal. Will be counting the days to the next Asia tour.
Happy Hunting.
I thought mamasan said only one pop? How did you get two?
I was walking on Sukhemvit 33, when I saw a tall girl standing beside dreams of heaven. I wondered how cool it would be to fuck her and my Johnny seconded the motion and gave a standing ovation.
Immediately I chucked the idea of visiting addict massage parlour and decided to try out Dreams in heaven as my first massage parlour in Bangkok. I went inside. The mamasan gave me the rate card and I decided for 90 minutes massage in the VIP room 2400 bath. I had asked him how many times I could pop and he said only once. I asked for the line-up and among them three girls were smiling I chose the best looking smiling girl and off I went with her.
Inside the room she showed me the condoms and told me that I can fuck and then started to feel up my dick and started asking do you want to fuck me repeatedly, I said yes and she told me to remove my clothes. She seemed to be very eager and horny as if she was not fucked from ages and I was her knight with shining dick.
I asked her for BBBJ she told me to wash my junk after washing my dick we were back into bed and she gave a pretty decent BJ. Afterwards she put the condom and started with cow girl. The condom was tight but I was not complaining that much after fucking her in various positions I came. She was disappointed that I came to early and then we went to the Jacuzzi. There she started watching Facebook videos and I was chilling and getting rest afterwards yet again went to the bed. This time I lasted a bit longer and came again in doggy position. While pulling her hair. It seemed as if she wanted more but I was done and left I gave her a tip of 500 bath.
Overall the session was very good and I was very satisfied with the service and I'm pretty sure she was disappointed with my sexual performance.
Massage parlours have a very robust seen and I think every beginner should start with them to minimise the risk of poor service and good heuristic would be to choose a girl who is smiling at you.
In short, she provided a real GFE and was into the DATY I provided. Fantastic BBBJ was followed by many positions. Finsihed with mish. She was all woman and is the sort that you could fuck and fuck and still want more. Got her line and will look her up when next in BKK.
So the tour ends and I go back to normal. Will be counting the days to the next Asia tour.
Happy Hunting.Thanks for the report! An attractive East European who delivers a real GFE does sound like a nice change of pace. It has been a few years since I've been with a non Asian girl. Might have to check out Mixx in the next month or two.
Gave After Skool a visit for the 1st time Friday night. I made it there after not really getting anything going at Nana (beer bars and Spanky's). The girls are actually pretty quality at Spanky's, but I didn't get a decent spark goIng with any of them. Met another guy at the bar just bull-shitting and decided to move on to Crazy House. This guy orders a coke at CH that costs 165 baht! He rightfully complains, but took it a bit overboard and totally pissed off every staff member within 10 meters. The waitress was flipping him off and I totally expected the bouncers to throw him out on his head. I paid for my beer and bailed since I figured my odds were totally shot from that point on in CH. The angry waitress took my cash and still politely wai'd to me.
"Rightfully complains"? Not at all. He could have asked the prices first if he was so concerned, and promptly left. They do have a menu. CH is not at all looking for very sticky "waste of space" customers.
Costs me 160 Baht I believe for a can of Coke Light which can last me a reasonable while or I can get a Soda which also lasts me a while. Lady drinks I think are 170 which is cheaper than many other bars.
It is very easy to understand, there are a lot of staff to be paid a monthly salary, so the price is not the price of the drink per se, but actually is in line with them needing to make money to paid the nude dancers, the bar staff, the waitresses, etc. It is pretty cheap entertainment actually, that is if you get any entertainment from watching nude girls, mostly fairly good bodies dancing. I have seen guys order a bottle of water and sit on that for a very long time. It does make them become "a waste of space". If you don't get any entertainment value and don't want to BF a girl, then absolutely no need to be there, for sure. If you do want to watch buck naked girls, this is the best option.
So your just met "buddy" pisses everyone off. I don't see that is relevant to you at all. He could leave and you could stay and act more reasonably. The girls would soon warm to you if you behaved very differently.
Thanks for the After Skool info. It sounds greatly improved since my last visit which was years ago.
We then hit Nana and found ourselves in Twister gogo. Firstly, I think the gogos in Pattaya are beter (IMHO) and cannot recall seeing the girls in mobile phones while on stage in Pattaya. Here it seems an acceptable practice. No it isn't. I am quite sure most bars do not allow girls on stage to be using or holding a mobile phone. I don't recall ever having seen it happen. Normally if there was a reason a girl had to be on the phone, she would not be on the dancing stage. Makes little sense to me.
This Facebook link doesn't seem to work. I also tried searching Ten Sauna via Facebook but I get a Bangkok gay bar. Where is this place? Or are there other places like this?
Just google Ten Sauna Bangkok and that should work. But here is the link to their facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ten-%E0%B8%8B%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%B2/164501003592983..
Member #4591
11-05-17, 11:44
Hello Seniors,
I am having a layover in Bangkok on my international travel and I will be landing around 6:30 AM and leaving by 4:30 PM which probably gives me around 6 hours to road around the city. Can you guys suggest what areas or places I can visit. I want to experience what Bangkok has to offer (massage, FS, etc) in the short while for I may not come here anytime soon.
Thank you.There have been countless posts on this topic. Please search Bangkok Layover. The short answer would be to get fucked. Take the airport link to Sukhumvit. The morning will be a little quiet so you might need to wait until around 11. You should be able to get two sessions in. One in morning and one after lunch. Go to the oilies in the morning and maybe a Sopie on Ratchada in the early afternoon. The 4PM departure is a killer.
"Rightfully complains"? Not at all. He could have asked the prices first if he was so concerned, and promptly left. They do have a menu. CH is not at all looking for very sticky "waste of space" customers.
Costs me 160 Baht I believe for a can of Coke Light which can last me a reasonable while or I can get a Soda which also lasts me a while. Lady drinks I think are 170 which is cheaper than many other bars.
It is very easy to understand, there are a lot of staff to be paid a monthly salary, so the price is not the price of the drink per se, but actually is in line with them needing to make money to paid the nude dancers, the bar staff, the waitresses, etc. It is pretty cheap entertainment actually, that is if you get any entertainment from watching nude girls, mostly fairly good bodies dancing. I have seen guys order a bottle of water and sit on that for a very long time. It does make them become "a waste of space". If you don't get any entertainment value and don't want to BF a girl, then absolutely no need to be there, for sure. If you do want to watch buck naked girls, this is the best option.
So your just met "buddy" pisses everyone off. I don't see that is relevant to you at all. He could leave and you could stay and act more reasonably. The girls would soon warm to you if you behaved very differently.
Thanks for the After Skool info. It sounds greatly improved since my last visit which was years ago.I wouldn't have complained myself, but a coke costing that much is a bit shocking. But I understand that there are plenty of paying customers that will fill those seats. And some cheap Charley is the last thing they want wasting space there. But that's why I strategically removed myself from the stench of that scenario that I didn't create. It took me 30 seconds to move on to Afterskool and my night instantly improved.
This Facebook link doesn't seem to work. I also tried searching Ten Sauna via Facebook but I get a Bangkok gay bar. Where is this place? Or are there other places like this?I google "Ten sauna Bangkok" and get several hits with info on the correct place. But I'll put a few more google links here. I list the exact pinpoint within google maps directly below.
https://maps.google.co.th/maps?oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&dlnr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=th&entry=s&sa=X&ftid=0x30e29e710cfbeb8d:0x32fb4e4da250a5bd&gmm=CgIgAQ%3D%3D
http://www.soidb.com/bangkok/sauna/ten-sauna.html
https://foursquare.com/v/ten-sauna/4cf0cbfc1d18a1435f074fec
http://thaidb.info/tensaunathaitraditionalmassage-2
All of those links have the correct location and other info. But it isn't far from the Huay Kwang MRT stop. There are other saunas in the area, but none that I can vouch for personally. My old favorite place in Ratchada closed down months ago, so that's why I moved on to to Ten Sauna. If Someone is in Rangsit there is another sauna called Jasmine Sauna and massage. It's a pretty new facility and the girls are pretty good quality, but more like soapy prices with 2500 being the minimum. I've leave the link for their actual website below.
http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Jasmine%20Massage%20&%20Sauna/modelplace-map.php?id=123
Christian G
11-05-17, 18:18
Hello Seniors,
I am having a layover in Bangkok on my international travel and I will be landing around 6:30 AM and leaving by 4:30 PM which probably gives me around 6 hours to road around the city. Can you guys suggest what areas or places I can visit. I want to experience what Bangkok has to offer (massage, FS, etc) in the short while for I may not come here anytime soon.
Thank you.Take Airport Rail Link to Phaya Thai station then BTS to Nana, you can start with L-o-Litas BJ Bars, I think they open pretty soon like 9am (at least so I was told by a girl worked there, anyone can confirm?) After the first shot take a walk around the area, have lunch, then move to soi 24-24/1-26 and check the massage shops around.
I'm heading to Bangkok again and I can't wait to taste the night life. Last time when I was staying at S8, all I did was visit a couple of BJ bars and order from an online service provider. This time I wanted to test out the Gogo bars and I wanted to know from you guys if it is okay to order drink after drink, Sit there and enjoy the company of some ladies. I don't want to take any back with me.
I also would like to know which are the best strip bars to go to and have a good time without taking any ladies back to my hotel. I can't wait to get back to the big mango.
Some may be aware 5 Star bar in Cowboy closed and was renovated. The new Five Star is Crazy 2 or "Not Crazy Enough". Some staff are recognisable as Crazy House girls, some dancers are taking a 2 hour shift from Crazy House in the new bar. Some girls in Rainbow bikinis are new girls and possibly would be designated as "Coyotes" not because they have a Coyote shorts, or dance Coyote style, but purely because they are wearing double layer non reveal bars to enhance apparent bust size.
Music is not an improvement on CH except perhaps slightly less loud. So music during my short stay was rubbish. Lady drinks are 200 Baht instead of CH 170 Baht. Many bars had 200 Baht lady drinks these days. My Coke Light was 170 Baht (normal). Relatively few girls were dancing nude (these were the CH imports). Generally the bikini girls were OK looking but not my spec, thighs a little large for me, my spec being shapely natural tits and slim thigh models ideally.
The only advantage of the new place over CH, is that it is not crowded. I don't see it drawing all the CH customers over there in a hurry. You pay more and get less. Did not strike me as raunchy but early days. If I think back to when Crazy House first opened and only had a dozen or so hot girls, it seemed way in front of this new Five Star. They should have remembered exactly how they got CH going successfully, and copied that procedure, not have overdressed girls.
CH itself last night at midnight was seriously depleted of hot girls with only 2 or 3 remaining such as Jane, Boom, etc. Ice "Geronimo" with mega tats might be considered hot (raunchy) but far too ugly (masculine jaw) for me. Even her sillies are saggy these days. At least her pussy is a nice mound shape. I would say arriving CH at midnight is time to find very few hot body girls remaining. 9 PM is a better time. Even then the CH line up is up and down depending on the day and the girl turn out. I heard the girl with the mega water melon size enhancements is very popular and gets 2 or 3ST customers per night. I don't understand why as she is not pretty, reportedly performs badly, acts a little arrogant, and the tits are just horrible hard looking torpedo tubes stuck on. Somehow these tits are intriguing for some guys who just cannot resist the bait. If they were soft and nice to touch and not so convex on top, I could perhaps understand. However just repulsive to me. So any average looking girl can make very good money in this business just by getting a mega boob job. Does it make any sense?
Member #4698
11-06-17, 05:19
Some may be aware 5 Star bar in Cowboy closed and was renovated. The new Five Star is Crazy 2 or "Not Crazy Enough". Some staff are recognisable as Crazy House girls, some dances are taking a 2 hour shift from Crazy House in the new bar. Some girls in Rainbow bikinis are new girls and possibly would be designated as "Coyotes" not because they have a Coyote shorts, or dance Coyote style, but purely because they are wearing double layer non reveal bars to enhance apparent bust size.
An informative review Syzygies. It may well be that 5 Star is not Crazy Enough now and never will be, but I will think of it's opening as a positive until I get there and find out different. I can't wait.
Without a doubt my favorite new bar of 2017 was Twister, but I also enjoyed my two visits to Kings Castle 1 & 2. Did you ever go back and hook up with Barbara Bach. I think she really likes you. Ha Ha.
I google "Ten sauna Bangkok" and get several hits with info on the correct place. But I'll put a few more google links here. I list the exact pinpoint within google maps directly below.
https://maps.google.co.th/maps?oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&dlnr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=th&entry=s&sa=X&ftid=0x30e29e710cfbeb8d:0x32fb4e4da250a5bd&gmm=CgIgAQ%3D%3D
http://www.soidb.com/bangkok/sauna/ten-sauna.html
https://foursquare.com/v/ten-sauna/4cf0cbfc1d18a1435f074fec
http://thaidb.info/tensaunathaitraditionalmassage-2
All of those links have the correct location and other info. But it isn't far from the Huay Kwang MRT stop. Ha ha not far, only around 3 km. Could walk in current pleasant weather but not at hot time of year. Suggest Motor Cycle. Suan Watthana Tham (Cultural Centre) MRT station is slightly closer.
Ten Sauna is not very far from Taragon (Tharn Thong and Selene previous names) in Pracha Uthit Soi 19 (maybe 700 m away). I had a couple of Soapy bath sessions in there and have traditional massage section. So check that out too if in the area. Also Victoria Secret is only a couple of km away through the back Sois. Easy by Motorcycle.
An informative review Syzygies. It may well be that 5 Star is not Crazy Enough now and never will be, but I will think of it's opening as a positive until I get there and find out different. I can't wait.
Without a doubt my favorite new bar of 2017 was Twister, but I also enjoyed my two visits to Kings Castle 1 & 2. Did you ever go back and hook up with Barbara Bach. I think she really likes you. Ha Ha.I find Twister has gone down hill a bit lately for girl quality, and have not managed to have many good sessions from there. By late in the evening the line up gets seriously depleted of talent. As normal, it is important to get there by 8. 30 pm or 9 pm. I wish they had a lot more topless girls instead of double layer bras hiding very ordinary tits to sag bags. Found Billboard line up to have gone down hill as well. Don't have any regular girl from either bar. I think you should have a look at Shark with some reasonable girls. You probably did already, I forget. It is a lot less like Baccara than it was a few years ago. Definitely improved.
"Barbara Bach" (Ex Twisters) but with much smaller tits, quit work as P4 P and is selling stuff with her mother in Lat Prao or Laksii somewhere like that. She was keen to hook up with me for a bit of extra curricula activity now and then (and make some pocket money no doubt) but was too difficult to make an arrangement (she was busy with responsibilities), had to be her day off like on the weekend and she seemed unreliable about answering messages promptly. Still on my LINE but not a priority. The big problem with casual LINE contacts is their various levels of unreliability. Some have to sneek away from family or friends secretly. I prefer to go with reliable girls.
Have another pretty girl on my LINE ex Orient Massage, who seems to have quit P4P maybe. I did not message her recently. She does not speak English at all and comes from Laos. I think she has a baby to look after so that limits her availability.
Another ex bargirl on my LINE, Noi, ex Doll House, ex Hot Lips, ex Candy Land 2, and ex Mercury who had been working as a Hotel Travel Guide, was right in the middle of a chat with me. She reported having been in hospital to remove "Chocolate Cysts" and showed me pics of the whole thing, and reported that her boyfriend had split from her about the time of the Opps. So now available for sex (I was thinking). Now has implants which I have never seen as yet. She was an old favourite sleek older girl 30+ with a stunning ass. So I was thinking I would go out with her for a drink and probably restore the old fuck arrangements. Suddenly in the middle of the chat conversation, she stops reading my messages. Some time after (hours or days) LINE shows she left the room. I don't have a recent phone number for her so she just disappeared, and after knowing her so many years, the reason is not evident at all. Can't decide if she suddenly blocked me (for no reason), used the hide function, of if her phone stopped working or blew up, dropped it into a Khlong, or what. If she had to get a new phone, not sure she will be able to contact me again or not. May not have a phone number for me. Sad to lose contact with long time girls sometimes, especially if they had a good body and were a good fuck.
YetAnotherGuy
11-07-17, 07:22
Take Airport Rail Link to Phaya Thai station then BTS to Nana, you can start with L-o-Litas BJ Bars, I think they open pretty soon like 9am (at least so I was told by a girl worked there, anyone can confirm?) After the first shot take a walk around the area, have lunch, then move to soi 24-24/1-26 and check the massage shops around.Or, usually slightly faster, take the Airport Rail Link to Makkasan, transfer to MRT (it'll be the Phetchaburi MRT station) and ride one stop to the Sukhumvit stop, then transfer to BTS (it'll be the Asok BTS station) and ride one stop to Nana. All the transfers are really easy, just follow the other people. Soi Cowboy is by the Sukhumvit station, though there won't be much there that time of day.
YetAnotherGuy
11-07-17, 07:25
I find Twister has gone down hill a bit lately for girl quality, and have not managed to have many good sessions from there. True (sigh). Twister is still worth checking out, but I found Lollipop to be surprisingly good (though no nudity), may be worth a look.
XRatedBangkok
11-07-17, 11:10
I heard the girl with the mega water melon size enhancements is very popular and gets 2 or 3ST customers per night. I don't understand why as she is not pretty, reportedly performs badly, acts a little arrogant, and the tits are just horrible hard looking torpedo tubes stuck on. Somehow these tits are intriguing for some guys who just cannot resist the bait. If they were soft and nice to touch and not so convex on top, I could perhaps understand. However just repulsive to me. So any average looking girl can make very good money in this business just by getting a mega boob job. Does it make any sense?Her name is Lak. Yes, she is a arrogant and dislikes working in the P4 P business. She disregards 20 thb tips on the dance-floor. I barfined her once and she was the ultimate starfish. Before and after: easy going. During: block of ice. Definitely will not repeat, just a rip-off. These girls know exactly what they are doing, and in that case: cut the session short. It worked.
Hmm when I go to CH, she usually gets one customer, more it would be rare. Usually a newbie or a tourist. She often dances "late" in the night (10-11 pm) as she gets often rejected after being paid a drink. I guess some guys feel she is not worth it.
Well her tits are not so hard and they feel massive. 1000 CC. She squeezes them and then you can. You know. I did her because of the total porn-star look, raunchy and cheap. Everyone has different tastes, I gave it a try. My bad.
I'm heading to Bangkok again and I can't wait to taste the night life. Last time when I was staying at S8, all I did was visit a couple of BJ bars and order from an online service provider. This time I wanted to test out the Gogo bars and I wanted to know from you guys if it is okay to order drink after drink, Sit there and enjoy the company of some ladies. I don't want to take any back with me.
I also would like to know which are the best strip bars to go to and have a good time without taking any ladies back to my hotel. I can't wait to get back to the big mango.From my experience, you can stay as long as you like as long as you are ordering drinks. Girls will approach you but will desist if you show no interest.
I barfined her once and she was the ultimate starfish. Before and after: easy going. During: block of ice. Biggest tits I have ever seen in Bangkok (even if they are fake).
Ha ha not far, only around 3 km. Could walk in current pleasant weather but not at hot time of year. Suggest Motor Cycle. Suan Watthana Tham (Cultural Centre) MRT station is slightly closer.
Ten Sauna is not very far from Taragon (Tharn Thong and Selene previous names) in Pracha Uthit Soi 19 (maybe 700 m away). I had a couple of Soapy bath sessions in there and have traditional massage section. So check that out too if in the area. Also Victoria Secret is only a couple of km away through the back Sois. Easy by Motorcycle.Would love to hear your reviews on Taragon and Victoria Secret. I'm going to be in that area early next year and would be interested in trying them out. I'll be sure to provide my own reviews after.
Thanks!
I find Twister has gone down hill a bit lately for girl quality, and have not managed to have many good sessions from there. By late in the evening the line up gets seriously depleted of talent. As normal, it is important to get there by 8. 30 pm or 9 pm. I wish they had a lot more topless girls instead of double layer bras hiding very ordinary tits to sag bags. Found Billboard line up to have gone down hill as well. Don't have any regular girl from either bar. I think you should have a look at Shark with some reasonable girls. You probably did already, I forget. It is a lot less like Baccara than it was a few years ago. Definitely improved.
You know how I have mentioned the element of what I call a bar's "Culture", where many of the girls in a particular bar take on and adopt whatever work ethic prevails among the leaders of the group, the most popular or charismatic girls, for good or for bad? Well, it is admittedly a personal theory and impression but does hold up remarkably consistent more often than not imo. It is not based on the girls' looks but on their quality of service in the room.
Well, my impression these days is I honestly believe some of the leader girls in Enter Go-Go Bar return to the bar the next day and like to compare notes on how much fun they had and how great the sex was with their customer the night before. Maybe the same for Mandarin Bar in Nana and Suzie Wong Bar on Soi Cowboy. However, by contrast, I would not be surprised if the chatter and notes compared among the more popular girls in Twister Bar and perhaps Bangkok Bunnies the next day, the score card if you will, is how little they got away with doing for their customer the night before and how much money they squeezed out of him anyway.
Yes, I can only go on a couple of my most recent barfines in each bar. But sometimes looking back at the glances and body language communication between the girls suggests one kind of Bar Culture has taken hold rather than the other.
I have no current opinion of Crazy House because it has been too long since I barfined a girl from there. But I have been on the wrong side of the CH girls trying to rack up as many Lady Drinks imaginable lately, by hook or by crook and more often by crook, to have a bad enough vibe about it not to bother barfining any of them for now in order to find out.
You know how I have mentioned the element of what I call a bar's "Culture", where many of the girls in a particular bar take on and adopt whatever work ethic prevails among the leaders of the group, the most popular or charismatic girls, for good or for bad? Well, it is admittedly a personal theory and impression but does hold up remarkably consistent more often than not imo. It is not based on the girls' looks but on their quality of service in the room.
Well, my impression these days is I honestly believe some of the leader girls in Enter Go-Go Bar return to the bar the next day and like to compare notes on how much fun they had and how great the sex was with their customer the night before. Maybe the same for Mandarin Bar in Nana and Suzie Wong Bar on Soi Cowboy. However, by contrast, I would not be surprised if the chatter and notes compared among the more popular girls in Twister Bar and perhaps Bangkok Bunnies the next day, the score card if you will, is how little they got away with doing for their customer the night before and how much money they squeezed out of him anyway.
In your first paragraph you talk about "it" some culture quite unclearly. At last in the 2nd paragraph you make it more clear that you find girls being crap on the bed is learned from the other girls and bar culture.
That is a very extraordinary theory. Most people are learning from each other about how to be better. Smart girls learn that they might need to collect regular customers, by performing reliably. Only the very most gorgeous girls getting BFed all the time, don't need any regular customers. I would have thought that girls with many customers very hooked on them would come with a certain prestige attached to it. These girls would be assumed to fuck the guy's brains out. Other girls could get a lot of customers, but no repeats. It would be clear to all that they were simply pretty but dumb and useless girls on the bed.
Anyone can be crap on the bed if they do not have the learning and experience behind them. Girls fucking Thai boys is not good experience for providing a good service to Farangs. The other important factor is simply if the girl wants to enjoy herself in the sex has has any ethic to give enjoyment to the partner.
So girls can be crap because they don't see themselves doing certain acts, like kissing, DATY, BJ, etc. Because they have little or no experience doing these things, because they have weak experience with Farangs (plenty of relative newbies), scared of Farang dick, have no concept they might enjoy a sex, are not desperately looking for a boyfriend, etc. Certainly I can concede that bar gossip can contribute to a girl having a bad attitude, in that she won't want to admit to friends that she wants to have a good time and get it off with some old fat geezer. Getting girls a little bit tipsy can be a big help if they are not fully into letting themselves go into lust. I have certainly had girls that changed from reticent to passionate, depending on a couple of tequilas or lack of them.
Most of my regular bar girls are orgasmic in the sessions, particularly from either DATY or cowgirl. They can enjoy themselves as well as giving a service. Not sure that girls are going to gossip that to their friends in the bar. However when I had 3 somes from Suzie Wong in the past, girls were not that shy about cumming in presence of the female friend. These were very experienced girls. Perhaps that culture has dried up, and not found much in bars these days.
I was very surprised recently when a long time regular girl from CH (bargirl for at least 3 years) who does mostly Farangs, said that she did not know what a "Blowjob" was, despite giving a very good one. Normally I never use the word Blowjob simply because I speak Thai, but I was amazed her English vocab was still so weak. Guys have to realise when talking to bargirls, that they can nod agreement, but may have little idea what the customer is talking about sometimes.
That is a very extraordinary theory. Most people are learning from each other about how to be better. Yes, and it all depends on what is considered "better" within a particular group.
Is it "better" to give great service, have as much fun and great sex as possible with the customers in order to make more money that way? Or is the girl "better" at this job if you she is hustling tons of Lady Drinks rather than inspiring a man to barfine her and, if she must be barfined, only doling out as little as possible for the highest amount of negotiated money?
I believe each extreme can become the "culture" developed in the bars, most often established by how the leaders in that bar keep score. Bear in mind, many of the girls in these bars only learn what they are supposed to be doing for a living from the other girls. There isn't a universal code of conduct manual sitting on a shelf in each bar as far as I know. And most mamasans sure don't give a damn about it.
Bear in mind, many of the girls in these bars only learn what they are supposed to be doing for a living from the other girls. There isn't a universal code of conduct manual sitting on a shelf in each bar as far as I know. And most mamasans sure don't give a damn about it.The girls at Eden club are well trained and basically all follow the same basic routine. I don't think it's by the other girls, I think it's by management, which is basically equivalent to the mamasan.
I think the mamasans play a key role in training these girls and telling them how to act. It's just that in most bars in Bangkok, they don't give a damn because they have customers regardless.
I know in Jakarta some of the places have the girls trained to provide very good service, while others do not. When I have asked the girls, they tell me the mamasans are the ones who trained them how to have sex and please the customers. Certainly, the other girls also provide stories and reference, but it seems the mamasans set the tone when the girls are fresh out of the village.
The girls at Eden club are well trained and basically all follow the same basic routine. I don't think it's by the other girls, I think it's by management, which is basically equivalent to the mamasan.
I think the mamasans play a key role in training these girls and telling them how to act. It's just that in most bars in Bangkok, they don't give a damn because they have customers regardless.
I did not have many visits to Eden for two reasons. The sheer lack of beauty of vast majority of them. However also I found the "acting" of the girls to be quite bad in my sessions. I guess I was looking for more natural behaviour than following a script.
Sure I agree that mamasans in bars are not teaching girls how to behave on the bed. It is really up to customers to train them I guess if they are willing to learn. I certainly teach the girls a few things about what turns me on, given the chance and receptiveness.
Is it "better" to give great service, have as much fun and great sex as possible with the customers in order to make more money that way? Or is the girl "better" at this job if you she is hustling tons of Lady Drinks rather than inspiring a man to barfine her and, if she must be barfined, only doling out as little as possible for the highest amount of negotiated money?
Hustling drinks is their job, and that is definitely the part that the bar teaches them. No question there. Some girls will be fined if they don't make their drinks quotas. No drinks sales, and the bar collapses completely. Customers that don't want buy drinks are a waste of space. Paying a BF is not good enough for the bar to make good money.
Yes some girls are trying too hard for too many drinks too often. If a girl is too pushy, simply get rid of her. Don't give her a 2nd thought. Little point. Can't expect every girl to be nice. In Shark bar I have 2 gogo girls and a waitress that I know well from former Suzie Wong days. Great. However another ex SuzieW girl tried to join in and was just far too pushy for me. So I simply made it clear she was not wanted and would not get drinks. Reason simple "Too pushy". "Mai chorp garn beep bangkhap" means I just don't like (girls trying) to push (literally squeeze) or force me into anything.
The smart girl knows to DFK me (but not in a pushy way) before asking for another drink. Of course she knows I already like DFKing her a lot. Weakens my resolve and stickness. Ha ha!
Free lance girls on no monthly salary and getting BFed very easily are going to be a bit more relaxed as they don't have to make a drinks quota. They still get commission on drinks sold that day though. Free lance girls are more likely to performers on the bed perhaps (unless absolute stunners when they might not need regulars). The most stunning 3 girls I ever had at CH, 1 was excellent on the bed, a 2nd very adequate and enjoying herself, and the 3rd was weak first time, but good 2nd time (with tequilas). I could not say the same of girls in Nana Plaza however. Some good looking complete duds. Sometimes its just luck of the draw.
CH had a new very pretty tan skin girl recently with small tits. Definitely my taste but she had a customer already last time (not surprising). So have not really met her yet. However maybe good enough to be worth the risk to try a new girl. LOL I still have 2 or 3 long term girls there.
Crazy Cats does not want their dancing girls to leave the bar too easy. They are good looking but rather few. So the BF is set at 2000 Baht. Not many guys are going to pay that I think, risking a possibly dud girl.
I did not have many visits to Eden for two reasons. The sheer lack of beauty of vast majority of them. However also I found the "acting" of the girls to be quite bad in my sessions. I guess I was looking for more natural behaviour than following a script.I have had some stunners at Eden over the years. I agree that most of the girls there are fairly ugly, but there are a few gems on occasion. I haven't noticed any "acting" out of the ordinary (I do not have them put on the costumes and I do not have them go at each other with the strap on dildo). However, I do notice that every time I go there, they put a pillow under my ass and one girl licks my ass and balls while the other sucks my dick from above. The girls are always positioned exactly the same even if it's not the same girls (unless I ask them to change their position). They are well trained and it's appreciated in my book. I wish all girls everywhere where as well trained. Haha.
Is it "better" to give great service, have as much fun and great sex as possible with the customers in order to make more money that way? Or is the girl "better" at this job if you she is hustling tons of Lady Drinks rather than inspiring a man to barfine her and, if she must be barfined, only doling out as little as possible for the highest amount of negotiated money?Gals who do the former will end up making more. They will get repeat business and lots of new customers as well. However, as you mention the culture in most bars is to do as little as possible in that regard, and any gal who breaks with that culture will have problems with the other gals. So we end up with the least common denominators. I remember talking to Sandy at Addict among others who were great providers. Gals who were always booked and making bank. All have said that they tell the other gals the "secret" but the other gals ignore that advice and just kind of shun the ones that put forth effort. It is never a good thing to be the only one excelling. And that just does not go only for the P4 P industry.
Gals who do the former will end up making more. They will get repeat business and lots of new customers as well. However, as you mention the culture in most bars is to do as little as possible in that regard, and any gal who breaks with that culture will have problems with the other gals. So we end up with the least common denominators. I remember talking to Sandy at Addict among others who were great providers. Gals who were always booked and making bank. All have said that they tell the other gals the "secret" but the other gals ignore that advice and just kind of shun the ones that put forth effort. It is never a good thing to be the only one excelling. And that just does not go only for the P4 P industry.You clearly got the point I was making, Goatscrot. Perhaps I didn't express it very well earlier. Some here seemed to think I was talking about opposing bar "cultures" in a world where almost all of the girls are surely trying to be good in the bed but some bars happen to have a lot of girls who try but fail at it while other bars happen to have a lot of girls who try and succeed at it. Regardless, they seemed to believe, all bar "cultures" are promoting the idea of the girls at least trying to give very good or better service in the room, right? Well, no.
As you caught it, my point was that some bars develop a "culture" where there is little or no interest whatever in being good in the bed, they don't even try. Instead, the prevailing "culture" dictates the goal of the job here, the way these girls keep score among themselves, is to scam as much money out of the customers while delivering the least amount of passable sex as possible. In fact, just as you described, in those kinds of bars or venues, a girl who tries to establish a pattern of excellent service in the room is out of sync, not really fitting in with that bar's "culture" and very well might be denigrated or shunned by the others for showing them up, for providing a stark contrast to their preferred method of operation.
Such "cultures", good or bad, do not last forever and evolve or can sometimes flip entirely over time, of course. I believe Crazy House had a very good "culture" of high quality service being the goal 2-3 years ago. Then it changed. I still see ex-Crazy House girls who left that bar to work elsewhere because they hated the pressure, either management pressure, classic peer pressure or both, to hustle Lady Drinks furiously while putting very low importance in giving customers a great time in the room; wham-bam, hurry, hurry, ok pay me anyway being the preferred "culture" there. And woe to the girl who comes along and tries to up that bar's game and establish a higher standard of service.
Eventually, some girls like that probably will trickle into such a bar and the "culture" can flip to something much better for the customer. As you say, they can make more money that way!
Arrived at 5:50 pm. Took an hour to get to hotel near Nana. Used Uber. Cost 300 that. Checked into shitty hotel that I will be leaving tommorow. Took shower and headed out. Need to get condoms so I went to pharmacy that was mentioned near Soi 4. Bought a few sagami condoms for 70 bhat each. They have Okamotos for 65 for two. Walked down to thermae. On my way there from the hotel, the street was filled with women and ladyboys. Arrived at thermae and ran into swarm of Asian dudes. Seem to be alot of them in the front buying drinks but not in the back. A lot of girls there. Would say a 100 or more. Skinny, pale and not curvy for my liking. Still tried to gauge price. Was quoted 3000 and 4000 for short time. Didn't try to negotiate just wanted to see what they are charging. Walked in between soi 13 to soi 11 and seen this small massage places that tried to lure me in. Keep walking in direction of Nana plaza. Walked into the club / bar section across from Nana hotel. Walked in all the clubs to see what the girls looked like. Nothing curvy enough for me. But some pretty faces. Went to each club from that bottom to the third floor. Can't remember all their names. Even ran into a few ladyboy clubs. After not seeing what I wanted, I then ask tuktuk driver to take me to rush hour 2 set up where I can pick what I want. He told me the name but I couldn't understand. It was a 5-10 drive away. It was a pink building with massage in bright sign on the front. Walked in and seen about 30 girls sitting on red couches. Most were pretty a few were old but most looked Young. Mamasan said it's 3500 for 3 hours. I said thank you for your time. She walked after me and followed me outside and said she asked boss for 2500 if I chose now. I told her I'm going to look at some other places and she told me 2000. I said now we are talking. I went back in there and chose girl with biggest breast among the younger looking ones. Paid. Then left. She told me her name was Lois 23 one kid from South East Thailand. We got to spot. I the session was ok nothing special. I enjoyed playing with her huge hanging breast and chocolate nipples. I popped twice but struggled with jet lag dick. She asked me if I wanted to do again but told her I was tired. She understood. Have tip and taxi money after we exchange numbers and she was on her way. On the hunt for curvy not fat Thai girls. I know it's a tough mission but I'm going to try. Happy hunting.
Was here last week and have a routine certainly. Hit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in the morning and this time after I landed in the morning I was so fucking horny. I ended up banging this chick in [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). Raw! Fuck I know she just wanted it and I couldn't say no. Dumb. Already got tested and I'm clean for now but will always repeat a couple months later as there is latency to STD's. I have barebacked countless girls in my life ADN never gotten anything but definitely didn't plan on this.
Then got 2 hour massage in Soi 5 with 3 ladies (1 each foot and 1 for the arms) great deal as it is 1800 total and a 100 tip each for 2100 for 2 hours. Then hit Annies and sessioned with lee lee #33 who is fucking hot. Annies doesn't get stunner but she was an 8. Great tongue.
Had to recharge so went to movies and topped the night with a ball massage from Rin at Nana massage on Soi 22. Fuck I love this lady's skills. Busted 3 nuts in 2 hours! This lady has skills. For nut massages.
Next day relaxed during day and hit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) again. Then massage got fitted for some suits. In ploen chit across from JW. And hit nana. Rainbow 4 and pulled 192 from there as she was petite and thin. I sessioned with her before and fuck I miss ICE from rainbow 4 a fucking sex machine. Left 2 years ago and married. I barfined this girl just to ask her about ice and get her number. No dice! Fuck. Below average session at the ST rooms there in nana.
Left the next day and already waiting to go back and bust some more nuts!
Redfield10
11-11-17, 01:10
In a while since I've been in Bangkok and I will be staying at the Dynasty Grande on Soi 6 near Grand Suhkumvit and Nana Plaza. I would like to purchase some good Apcialis or generic Cialis don't want to get scammed. Does anyone know a good place to purchase some near where I will be staying? Thanks!! Don't mind buying from a vendor but want it to be authentic stuff.
Banana Boi
11-11-17, 04:02
Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Patpong:
Kings Castle 1 & 2, Badabing, Electric Blue, Pink Panther, and the Strip.I'll be in Bangkok for 2 nights soon but will be staying by choice in the Patpong area. Have decided to break the Thermae trend. I will try these gogo bars. Which other gogo bars should I try in Patpong? My preference is the Baccara look rather than the Crazy House look.
It is just about one year since Bangkok Beat unfortunately was closed down. It has always been one of my favourite hunting grounds for FL. The successing pool bar New Wave is now closed too and up for sale. Would be great to see a revival of a new Bangkok Beat stile live band nightspot.
In a while since I've been in Bangkok and I will be staying at the Dynasty Grande on Soi 6 near Grand Suhkumvit and Nana Plaza. I would like to purchase some good Apcialis or generic Cialis don't want to get scammed. Does anyone know a good place to purchase some near where I will be staying? Thanks!! Don't mind buying from a vendor but want it to be authentic stuff.Has been covered any times. "Charoen" Pharmacy (big shop) on Sukhumvit Road, just West of Soi 4 (towards Soi 2) and near the Irish pub has a big range of medications. Don't ask for Cialis. That will cost far more than Apcalis. "Generic Tadalafil" is the other term.
There are plenty of other places. I mention just one.
After not seeing what I wanted, I then ask tuktuk driver to take me to rush hour 2 set up where I can pick what I want. He told me the name but I couldn't understand. It was a 5-10 drive away. It was a pink building with massage in bright sign on the front. Walked in and seen about 30 girls sitting on red couches. Most were pretty a few were old but most looked Young. Mamasan said it's 3500 for 3 hours. I said thank you for your time. She walked after me and followed me outside and said she asked boss for 2500 if I chose now. I told her I'm going to look at some other places and she told me 2000. I said now we are talking. I went back in there and chose girl with biggest breast among the younger looking ones. Paid. Then left. She told me her name was Lois 23 one kid from South East Thailand. We got to spot. I the session was ok nothing special. I enjoyed playing with her huge hanging breast and chocolate nipples. I popped twice but struggled with jet lag dick. She asked me if I wanted to do again but told her I was tired. She understood. Have tip and taxi money after we exchange numbers and she was on her way. On the hunt for curvy not fat Thai girls. I know it's a tough mission but I'm going to try. Happy hunting.Ha ha. This shows what sort of shock is possible when pretty girl takes clothes off. My taste is different I prefer the skinny girls with naturals.
I suggest to you not to use Tuk Tuk drivers. They will tend to take you to scam places or at least places where he gets a commission. Better to use ISG and Google Maps to find good places to go to. I don't know if Pink Place was Oscar / Vilunda or perhaps La Belle.
Many gogo bars have been experiencing very poor attendance by customers, partially due to rather ordinary looking girls working there and sometimes not so many of them.
Many bars have been bringing in "Coyote Girls" from an Agency to try to boost the business. That means the Coyote girl is possibly not permanently attached to the particular bar, but maybe there sort of on some contract period.
Bars like: Suzie Wong (almost dead), the chain of bars: Jungle Jims, Moonshine, Afterskool, Toy Bar, etc. I had previously wondered how come sometimes these bars had very good looking girls outside there. Cowboy 2 has a huge number of "Coyotes" and may be supplying girls to the other bars.
So what does it mean, if the girl is "Coyote" rather than go-go girl? These Coyote girls do not seem to know how to dance Coyote style like in the Thai oriented Coyote clubs, nor do they always wear the typical Coyote cut off short shorts, or tiny shorts intended to expose a lot of bum and just cover the pussy. They could be wearing bikinis. Give away or tell tale signs typically are that the girl is wearing a double layer bra, very hard, with push up and likely with padding, to make the tits look like a see cup when the reality may only be a small A if she has no silicones. Most Coyotes probably have no baby, where a high percentage of go-go girls do have a baby. Another common thing is that Coyote girls often wear panty-hose or shear skin coloured tights to hide bruises or scars on the legs.
Now we come to the bad aspects, as if the bra part wasn't horrific already. LOL. Lady drinks can cost more for Coyote girls and are usually a minimum of 200 Baht, maybe more. Not all Coyotes are available for sex, especially if they work in the Arab's bars (which officially haves no hookers as far as I know). If Coyotes are available to be barfined, the barfine is usually much higher than for gogo girls. Instead of 700 Baht, the BF could be 1000 Baht, 1500,2000 (all Crazy Cats girls), or even 3000 Baht. I have not checked the latest BF in Cowboy2 (longtime since I went in).
The average looks for Coyote girls is better than the gogo girls. The average experience levels and performance on the bed, is likely to be worse than gogo-girls. Coyote girls may have an over inflated opinion of their status, beauty, and abilities. They are certainly not likely to be as raunchy as the uglier gogo girls.
So when going into any bar, you need to be aware upfront, which girls are designated as Coyotes or have a very high BF, if you intend to take a girl. Sometimes the answers to these things are not obvious, and could get a rude shock. Being very likely to be interested in the more pretty girls in any bar, finding out about Coyotes and the BF is critical for me. I like to take a very long time to select girls, so no point wasting time on Coyotes, unless they are something super special, for some reason. Have met the odd stunner.
Crazy House has no Coyotes, as it's main business model is nudity. I guess Bacarra has no Coyotes too. It is probably a sign of bars whose business model is going well, that they don't need any Coyotes (or Lady boys). How many bars in nana have no Coyotes and no Ladyboys? I don't the answer, but I suspect very few. Angel Witch and Spankies come to mind as possible Coyote free bars.
With Coyotes, Lady Boys, Surgeries Girls, girls who only want Japanese customers, etc., gradually taking over the gogo bar scene, and inflated prices for ladies, drinks, and barfines, things look pretty poor for the future.
Many gogo bars have been experiencing very poor attendance by customers, partially due to rather ordinary looking girls working there and sometimes not so many of them.
Many bars have been bringing in "Coyote Girls" from an Agency to try to boost the business. That means the Coyote girl is possibly not permanently attached to the particular bar, but maybe there sort of on some contract period.
Bars like: Suzie Wong (almost dead), the chain of bars: Jungle Jims, Moonshine, Afterskool, Toy Bar, etc. I had previously wondered how come sometimes these bars had very good looking girls outside there. Cowboy 2 has a huge number of "Coyotes" and may be supplying girls to the other bars.
So what does it mean, if the girl is "Coyote" rather than go-go girl? These Coyote girls do not seem to know how to dance Coyote style like in the Thai oriented Coyote clubs, nor do they always wear the typical Coyote cut off short shorts, or tiny shorts intended to expose a lot of bum and just cover the pussy. They could be wearing bikinis. Give away or tell tale signs typically are that the girl is wearing a double layer bra, very hard, with push up and likely with padding, to make the tits look like a see cup when the reality may only be a small A if she has no silicones. Most Coyotes probably have no baby, where a high percentage of go-go girls do have a baby. Another common thing is that Coyote girls often wear panty-hose or shear skin coloured tights to hide bruises or scars on the legs.
Now we come to the bad aspects, as if the bra part wasn't horrific already. LOL. Lady drinks can cost more for Coyote girls and are usually a minimum of 200 Baht, maybe more. Not all Coyotes are available for sex, especially if they work in the Arab's bars (which officially haves no hookers as far as I know). If Coyotes are available to be barfined, the barfine is usually much higher than for gogo girls. Instead of 700 Baht, the BF could be 1000 Baht, 1500,2000 (all Crazy Cats girls), or even 3000 Baht. I have not checked the latest BF in Cowboy2 (longtime since I went in).
The average looks for Coyote girls is better than the gogo girls. The average experience levels and performance on the bed, is likely to be worse than gogo-girls. Coyote girls may have an over inflated opinion of their status, beauty, and abilities. They are certainly not likely to be as raunchy as the uglier gogo girls.
So when going into any bar, you need to be aware upfront, which girls are designated as Coyotes or have a very high BF, if you intend to take a girl. Sometimes the answers to these things are not obvious, and could get a rude shock. Being very likely to be interested in the more pretty girls in any bar, finding out about Coyotes and the BF is critical for me. I like to take a very long time to select girls, so no point wasting time on Coyotes, unless they are something super special, for some reason. Have met the odd stunner.
Crazy House has no Coyotes, as it's main business model is nudity. I guess Bacarra has no Coyotes too. It is probably a sign of bars whose business model is going well, that they don't need any Coyotes (or Lady boys). How many bars in nana have no Coyotes and no Ladyboys? I don't the answer, but I suspect very few. Angel Witch and Spankies come to mind as possible Coyote free bars.
With Coyotes, Lady Boys, Surgeries Girls, girls who only want Japanese customers, etc., gradually taking over the gogo bar scene, and inflated prices for ladies, drinks, and barfines, things look pretty poor for the future.Very good overview of the situation with Coyotes in the Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy areas. I would only quibble with one point you made: "Another common thing is that Coyote girls often wear panty-hose or shear skin coloured tights to hide bruises or scars on the legs. " I don't think it is so much to hide bruises or scars but rather to ensure that there will be no actual hand to skin contact on their legs when sitting with a sucker, I mean customer, who has likely foolishly bought them a Lady Drink. At least, that is how a panty-hose wearing Coyote explained it to me a few years ago when I sat with her for a while and got the lowdown on why the panty-hose. Yes, I had foolishly bought her a Lady Drink before I found out about her non-barfinable Coyote status. So I figured I might as well get some behind the scene intel in the data bank since she had by then let me know there was little or no point in engaging in the usual pre-barfine interview.
Regular, barfinable go-go dancers might rarely wear panty-hose for the reason you mentioned. But the wearing of panty-hose among the non-barfinable Coyotes is so universal or very, very nearly so that I can't imagine that many of them are plagued by off-putting bruises or scars. It is much more likely to be what that Coyote from a few years back clued me into; a somewhat blatant indication of just how "hands off" they intend to be with us unwashed masses of icky mongers. I would suggest we take it that way unless told directly otherwise by the girl herself. And on that point, I have found the best way to ascertain if a girl you suspect might be a Coyote is a barfinable Coyote or not is to ask her directly as soon as you meet her or as soon as she hooks your arm and tries to pull you into the bar. "Are you a Coyote?" and "How much is the barfine for you?" I have found non-barfinable Coyotes will tell you the truth when asked directly. Might actually be a hard and fast rule for the girls to be honest about it dictated by the agency itself so as not to be aligned with the ol' "Living off the proceeds of prostitution" criminal offense. Not sure.
That said, within the past few months I have barfined and taken a couple of panty-hose wearing Coyotes in Nana Plaza for real sex Short Times. You know, the girls who stand in front of the Nana Beer Garden outdoor bar in the middle of the plaza as you enter it holding up signs about special promotions in this or that bar. But the first things I asked each of the girls I agreed to buy a Lady Drink for and eventually barfined were those two questions I mentioned above; "Are you a Coyote?" and "How much is the barfine for you?" In those cases, the answers were one "Yes. 1,500 baht at London Calling" and one "What? 1,500 baht at wherever" (I forget where now).
Also, on this point: "How many bars in nana have no Coyotes and no Ladyboys? I don't the answer, but I suspect very few. Angel Witch and Spankies come to mind as possible Coyote free bars."
In addition to the bars you mentioned, in the past 2-3 weeks I have been in but not seen any noticeable evidence of Ladyboys or non-barfinable Coyotes (the barfinable vs the non-barfinable kind being a distinction I know you did not make) in Billboard, Enter, Butterflies, Bangkok Bunnies, Twister Bar and both Mandarin Bars. Again, some of those bars might have the 1,500 baht barfine for their "special" girls. But I am only talking about the kind of panty-hose wearing non-barfinable Coyotes typically standing outside the bars up and down Soi Cowboy. And if there are Ladyboys dancing in the Nana Plaza bars I mentioned I can't say I have been made aware of them. But I might have just missed seeing them in the crowd.
Member #4698
11-11-17, 16:36
I'll be in Bangkok for 2 nights soon but will be staying by choice in the Patpong area. Have decided to break the Thermae trend. I will try these gogo bars. Which other gogo bars should I try in Patpong? My preference is the Baccara look rather than the Crazy House look.BB, don't take what I am about to write too literally because every bar has its own particular "culture," ambiance, and girls. For example, CH girls can get very friendly and pretty wild, but if 4 or 5 of my favorite hotties don't show up on a particular night, then the place can be a dud and someone who has never been there before will wonder what all the rave reviews were about.
So, with that in mind, I am going to try to make a few relative comparisons:
I think of Badabing as the Baccara of Patpong except that it is a much smaller place. On its one stage they have ground floor type Baccara girls and 2nd floor Baccara type school girls all dancing at the same time. The decor is high end, but the majority of the customers are Farang.
Kings Castle 1 & 2 is the CH or Twister type Go Go of Patpong. KC 1 especially has a lot of girls. The main difference between the KC bars and CH / Twister is no nudity, and a slew of different category priced girls from 500 baht low barfine "plain girls" to 1800 baht high barfine hotties and less hanky panky going on in the bar. Note: these 2 bars are very popular and I would estimate that a majority of the customers are NE Asians, but I discerned no discrimination from the girls or the staff.
When I was last there, I took a different 1800 girl on two successive nights. They each wanted 2500 baht and their service was really good. In fact, one of my CH 2 girls is in my top 5 new girls of 2017 and I am looking forward to seeing her again shortly in 2018. That's one of the primary reasons why I booked myself into the Grande Centre Point Ratchadamri for 6 nights. I want to spend more time on Patpong this next trip.
P.S. Since I was last in KC, I have heard that the top tier barfine has been reduced to 1300 baht indicating there are now less categories of girls to choose from which is good because I found having 5 different categories of girls in one bar confusing.
More Relative Comparisons:
Electric Blue reminds me of Shark Go Go; the girl quality, their friendliness, and the layout. If you like Shark Go Go, you will probably like Electric Blue.
The Strip is kind of like Suzy Wong in the good old' days. When I was last in the Strip, there was one super hottie and the rest of the girls were mew. LOL. But this is a fun bar. On one side of the room they have booths with curtains. I am sure you know what the curtains are for. 555.
Pink Panther sometimes gets good reviews on other web sites. I can't believe anyone actually likes this bar. I went there 2 times, my 1st and my last time. All I saw there was a bunch of fuglies and no customers.
Black Pagoda: this bar too sometimes gets good reviews on other web sites. Syzygies checked it out one night and told me it was like a funeral home. LOL. Nothing going on.
P.S. If you are feeling a little adventurous or just curious to see how a hybrid bar can operate successfully, then check out Kings Corner on Patpong 1 just a few doors north of Kings Castle 2. This Kings Corner Go Go is a mixed bar meaning 50% of the girls are girls and the other 50% are not. Ha Ha. I found this hybrid bar to have a weird vibe. The girls and the ladyboys take turns dancing on the stage and there is no chance of getting confused, but the ladyboys, being men, do tend to dominate the place. I immediately had the thought that if I was a girl, I would not want to work here. Interestingly, my Kings Castle 2 girl told me she used to work in Kings Corner and left after a month for this very reason. Still, this is a very popular bar and most of the customers are NE Asian. I don't get it. Like I said, I thought the vibe was weird.
And one last thing, do not mistake this mixed bar just north of Kings Castle 2 on Patpong 1 with the other Kings Corner bar in the alley between Patpong 1 and Patpong 2. This other Kings Corner bar is 100% ladyboy. But anyone would know that as soon as they took one step inside.
So that is about all I know about Patpong bars. In my somewhat limited recent explorations over the last 2.5 years I always found what I wanted in #1) Kings Castle 1 & 2, #2) Badabing, #3) Electric Blue, or #4) the Strip. If I can't find what I am looking for in these bars, it is probably around 11:30 pm and time to head over to Spasso at the Grand Hyatt and later still Mixx at the Intercontinental after 1 am. I think you are going to have 2 fun nights in Patpong.
Banana Boi
11-11-17, 21:39
Thanks so much, Natty. I will follow your advice and hit the gogo bars you have recommended. I think I'll pass on the mixed bar but who knows I may just check it out.
Off topic, I'm looking forward to eating at Smokin' Pug in Patpong again. If you guys haven't tried it, it's amazing BBQ. https://www.smokinpugbbq.com/.
It is amazing how vast can be the change in a bar.
Today I was searching for a very special stunning coyote called Palm. I have not seen her for a year or more. Reports were she might work at Lollipop now.
So I had to go check out Lollipop bar. This is one of the first bars I ever frequented in Nana Plaza but that was over 20 years ago, when it had an aquarium for naked girls to swim in, like Mermaids.
Palmy was not seen. I briefly spotted from a distance a pretty girl that could have been her, but she went to toilet then back outside and disappeared. Anyhow Lollipop had a few cuties. I would say 6 to 8 girls were rather cute to my taste. This is first time I have said that in a long time. None of the go go girls was fat. A few bad silicone jobs, nothing unusual, but also a lot of natural looking girls. All slim. All wearing skimpy black bikinis showing a lot of ass, so virtually G-strings below. I judge a line up by the best few girls so definitely a very big thumbs up for looks. I few heavy surgeries types, that looked very much like they ought to have cocks, but I was not sure. Probably some percent of ladyboys in there. The ugliest surgeries girls seemed to be popular. There were several girls of Bacarra type style but not so many as to bother me. Very few really ugly faces for the dancing girls.
Now for Banana Boi, I should mention that the bar staff were amongst the most ugly lot I have ever seen. LOL Not that it mattered.
I moved on and did a quick survey of Thermae. Packed out. Only 1 girl that really appealed, and she was indicating she definitely was keen on me too, however she had clothing on. LOL and I was too lazy to go talk to her for long enough to decide if chemistry was good. Besides her face was not as skinny as I prefer. Certainly my conclusion was the Lollipop talent was far better than Thermae for cute girls.
Crazy House had some new girls. Floor 1 (Yellow badge) had 2 or 3 new short girls that were very cute to my taste. I ended up taking the regular girl Oom who is very used to my dick.
Later I meant to go home but spotted a very appealing girl outside Crazy Cats. Yes another Crazy but unrelated. Turned out that CC had 3 student girls all aged 19 (School friends), and all work only Friday and Saturday. All three were very pretty and an obvious class well above the normal bar girls. Not sure if any of the three was available for sex, maybe one (maybe not), but could be BFed very steeply at 2000. The 3 girls were quite good to talk to, and the music is not so loud there, so chat is possible. Two study marketing and the other Hotel Management. The Hotel one is currently doing work experience in a big Hotel on Suk (better not name it). That has no pay so she has to earn some money by entertaining old Farangs and Japanese in a Cowboy bar, and does it well. One of the 3, Miss N, possibly the cutest but a little shy, surprised when she could sing the English along with the 1993 song "Calling Mr. Vain" (Culture Beat) which came out before she was born.
To Natty Bumpo: Miss N looks like Nuu Dee some what, not quite the same massive smile.
I ended up staying with the students till close, then taking all 3 to go eat "Kwuay Tiao" (Thai Tom Yum noodles). They were surprised I knew the roads where they live all being in Thonburi side of the river, e. G. Jalan Sanit Wong and Rama 2. Miss B from the Hotel, decided to test out my Thai. She started asking me what all of the things on the table were, and me to give Thai for them: Fish Sauce; Sugar; Vinegar; Spoons; Chopsticks etc. All easy. I even knew the Lettuce, bean shoots and Basil Leaves. They she though she would be smart and asked what is "Gek Huay" (Chinese yellow chrysanthemum tea) and finally "Grajiap", I had no clue was Roselle water (served in the Hotel). Turns out that Miss B was the most talkative of the three and I got a really good vibe from her. Possibly Miss N was slightly prettier, but I really liked Miss B (very cute and good body). If I needed a classy 19 YO GF, she would be a fabulous candidate. LOL Chatting with normal bar girls is boring but with 19 YO students is a lot more interesting.
I don't actually know what percentage of the pretty Crazy Cats girls can be taken for sex, probably a low percentage less than 50%. However I much preferred these girls to the ones that work in the Arab's bars.
BB, don't take what I am about to write too literally because every bar has its own particular "culture," ambiance, and girls. For example, CH girls can get very friendly and pretty wild, but if 4 or 5 of my favorite hotties don't show up on a particular night, then the place can be a dud and someone who has never been there before will wonder what all the rave reviews were about.
So, with that in mind, I am going to try to make a few relative comparisons:
Can probably throw Kangaroo club is as being similar to After Skool, but it's been a few years since I've been to Patpong. I should make the effort next trip in a few weeks.
Thanks so much, Natty. I will follow your advice and hit the gogo bars you have recommended. I think I'll pass on the mixed bar but who knows I may just check it out.
Off topic, I'm looking forward to eating at Smokin' Pug in Patpong again. If you guys haven't tried it, it's amazing BBQ. https://www.smokinpugbbq.com/.This Texan was not real thrilled with the Smokin' Pug. I found the ribs to be overcooked (ribs should not fall off the bone. They should have some tooth to them) and the brisket lacked that nice black crust on the outside (guess they trim it off for the locals) and did not have much of a smoky flavor. For the price I don't think I'll return. The first comment on the BK Magazine review of the restaurant kind of sums up my feelings about it.
Regular, barfinable go-go dancers might rarely wear panty-hose for the reason you mentioned. But the wearing of panty-hose among the non-barfinable Coyotes is so universal or very, very nearly so that I can't imagine that many of them are plagued by off-putting bruises or scars. Okay I haven't done the survey. I have seen plenty of Coyotes without the hose, but did not check of course if they were all barfineable. I don't typically attend places too dominated by non BFable girls ( I really mean not available for fuck) so not too clear.
I am not so sure they need hose if they are no BFable, but you could be right that it is part of the style, as per the double layer very hard bras which are there for multiple reasons, one is to make the tits look a lot bigger than actual and the hard shell protects from the gropers too I guess.
Coyotes in the Moonshine, Jungle Jim's Toy Bar group may well be having a hard time due to the high portion of customers that are gropers and even hand diving for the pussy. There had to be some attraction to these bars. The original girls weren't that pretty.
I went to Moonshine Joint recently and one customer was dominating the music requests. He was selecting heavy metal, hard rock, and even groups verging on punk. Despite me being similar age to him, I think I only recognised one of his song selections. LOL Was fucking awful and the girls could not dance to it, probably causing the bars to lose plenty of customers, even less suitable than the very modern music including Hip Hop etc. I managed to squeeze in some requests for not so ancient danceable songs.
Can probably throw Kangaroo club is as being similar to After Skool, but it's been a few years since I've been to Patpong. I should make the effort next trip in a few weeks.I visited Kangaroo earlier this year or was it last year. One girl there I knew for years. For any action they seemed to want to go the back room, very dark indeed. Not quite like the old days. Most girls were fat but one or two passable for size.
In the old days, you could go there at lunch time when all quiet and get molested by a group of 5 girls, get their clothes off and grope molest, get blown and fuck. I seem to recall there was a reasonable all in type of price. The girls were happy to share the proceeds. I was not an anal type so don't know if that was available. Maybe will post a pic of such a group of girls in Kangaroo (from 27 years back) someday. It's a printed photo so will have to take a pic of the pic. The standard of girls varied so will be interesting to see how many had passable looks.
Had a quick look in After Skool this week. Nothing interested me at all, so left after maybe 10 mins. Perhaps one girl was a pass but she was busy with a customer, getting groped I guess.
Early 2000s I was mainly doing Soapies and Nana Plaza, Patpong on occasion. Around 2006 I returned to Cowboy once I found out they had nudity, since nudity had been shut down in Nana Plaza. Did not really start oilies till about 2006 or 2007 and finally tried Tulip in 2008. Long past time. Now just about everything bores me, except some very good regular girls.
Member #4698
11-12-17, 16:02
Last night an ISG pal asked me about taking Patpong girls back to Sukhumvit. I told him I never had a problem with the girls and they seemed to me to be much less spoiled on the whole than many Nana and Cowboy girls, which is another reason to check out Patpong.
But the taxi drivers are another matter. There is a long row of them parked on both Surawong Road and Silom Road directly outside Patpong 1 & 2 just waiting around for guys leaving Patpong with their bar girls. The parked taxi going price was 200 baht just to take me and a girl back to the Renaissance Hotel. The meter rate was something like 65 baht. The solution is very easy. I walked a half block up Surawong or Silom towards the park and flagged a moving taxi. I imagine the meter rate back to Sukhumvit & Asok will be around 100 baht, maybe less. It is not that far.
Errata:
In my previous post I wrote:
In fact, one of my CH 2 girls is in my top 5 new girls of 2017 and I am looking forward to seeing her again shortly in 2018. What I meant to write was: "In fact, one of my Kings Castle 2 girls is in my top 5 new girls of 2017 and I am looking forward to seeing her again shortly in 2018."
Last night an ISG pal asked me about taking Patpong girls back to Sukhumvit. I told him I never had a problem with the girls and they seemed to me to be much less spoiled on the whole than many Nana and Cowboy girls, which is another reason to check out Patpong.
But the taxi drivers are another matter. There is a long row of them parked on both Surawong Road and Silom Road directly outside Patpong 1 & 2 just waiting around for guys leaving Patpong with their bar girls. The parked taxi going price was 200 baht just to take me and a girl back to the Renaissance Hotel. The meter rate was something like 65 baht. The solution is very easy. I walked a half block up Surawong or Silom towards the park and flagged a moving taxi. I imagine the meter rate back to Sukhumvit & Asok will be around 100 baht, maybe less. It is not that far."What I have found is the taxis on the Patpong side of the road want to quote a fare but if you walk to the other side they are happy to use a meter.
Off topic, I'm looking forward to eating at Smokin' Pug in Patpong again. If you guys haven't tried it, it's amazing BBQ. https://www.smokinpugbbq.com/.I am a fan, too. Oh, I see they have moved to their new location already but the pic on the link looks like the old one.
Lollipop
I few heavy surgeries types, that looked very much like they ought to have cocks, but I was not sure. Yeah, Lollipop in Nana Plaza is the only go-go bar in Thailand where I honestly am not sure if 2-3 of the dancers are Ladyboys or not! LOL. I feel comfortable spotting them quite easily in any other bar. But there are a handful of very smiley, "please barfine me, honey" types in Lollipop that look pretty good but who truly have me stumped while they are onstage. Guess I could take one up on all the smiley encouragement, call one over and put an end to the mystery sometime.
Guess I could take one up on all the smiley encouragement, call one over and put an end to the mystery sometime.Even that might not end the mystery if the ladyboy is clever enough. My motto is that if there is even one ladyboy in the bar, do not bar fine anything from that bar. Also, if I am in a bar and I am not sure if it's a girl or a ladyboy, I assume it's a ladyboy and move on.
Even that might not end the mystery if the ladyboy is clever enough. My motto is that if there is even one ladyboy in the bar, do not bar fine anything from that bar. Also, if I am in a bar and I am not sure if it's a girl or a ladyboy, I assume it's a ladyboy and move on.I am with you on some level; even if she turns out to be a genuine she, I might not be able to shake the lingering impression that I had doubts about her when I first met her. Therefore, barfining her would probably not be worth it. She is likely too masculine for me in some way.
But I have barfined and repeatedly so some real winner girls (genuine) I met in bars that have a mix of real ones and Ladyboys, including Lollipop go-go bar and the old Chili's Go-Go Bar before it went total Ladyboys.
Look at it this way; for those of us who are into Anal or BBBJ+CIM, real girls are more likely to get positive info, intel, moral support and practical encouragement for providing either one of those activities when they spend their down time at work chatting with Ladyboys than with other, ill-informed, inexperienced, or unimaginative women. hehe.
But I have barfined and repeatedly so some real winner girls (genuine).How are you sure? Did you get them pregnant?
How are you sure? Did you get them pregnant?No. But I have never gotten anyone pregnant. I got a vasectomy almost 30 years ago and the girls I was with before then were diligent about taking birth control pills.
Let's put it this way, if modern medical science has perfected the art of transforming men into women enough to enable them to produce heavy streams of natural vaginal lubrication as well as duplicate the touch, feel, taste, smell, voice and demeanor of a genuine female with zero evidence of surgical alteration and through multiple sessions then we are all destined to unknowingly have sex with people born male at some point and the supposed "females only" go-go bars are likely loaded with them by now.
I would think there must be some tell-tale sign in or around the breasts and vagina, if nothing else was a tip-off. Although, I have never had sex with a known Ladyboy to log in a certifiable A-B comparison. So I suppose anything is possible. LOL.
No. But I have never gotten anyone pregnant. I got a vasectomy almost 30 years ago and the girls I was with before then were diligent about taking birth control pills.
Let's put it this way, if modern medical science has perfected the art of transforming men into women enough to enable them to produce heavy streams of natural vaginal lubrication as well as duplicate the touch, feel, taste, smell, voice and demeanor of a genuine female with zero evidence of surgical alteration and through multiple sessions then we are all destined to unknowingly have sex with people born male at some point and the supposed "females only" go-go bars are likely loaded with them by now.
I would think there must be some tell-tale sign in or around the breasts and vagina, if nothing else was a tip-off. Although, I have never had sex with a known Ladyboy to log in a certifiable A-B comparison. So I suppose anything is possible. LOL.To a guy like me with massive experience in DATY, and doing extended DATY for all my bookings, I think my tongue has the experience to recognise a real pussy over a very weird one that was constructed. I know what clits are like whether in the larger or very small varieties. I think a constructed pussy would likely arouse suspicions immediately even if was relatively dark. Typically constructed pussies have a V shaped scar above the pussy based on photos I have seen. I have never seen a live constructed pussy as yet. Perhaps the experience just to see would be useful. Better than looking at a cock.
I really doubt that a fake pussy is going to be that good to fuck, as would be hard to duplicate the pussy muscles and sponginess. I am not even a fan of fucking assholes since the a-hole grip on the pussy tends to be very different to a pussy. The grip seems to be largely at the sphincter only, not along the whole length of the dick. I don't really go for such a tight grip in just the one place. Okay For an occasional variation for me, if girls happens to really want it (which is very rare in my case).
Many years ago I DATYied a Thai girl (or similar but not actually in Thailand) with essentially non-existent vagina inner lips and if any clit it seemed internal, which aroused my suspicions quite obviously, however fingering the vagina I could feel the uterus knob with its opening, so was convinced I had a real girl. There were no tell tale signs of lady boy for body shape, the way she walked, or voice. No surgery scars found. Tits were natural and seemed very normal.
It wasn't clear if her lack of inner pussy lips was an anatomical freak, or possibly she was born a muslim and circumcised at birth. Certainly had me puzzled.
Banana Boi
11-13-17, 06:32
Lollipop go-go bar and the old Chili's Go-Go Bar before it went total Ladyboys. Just curious why bars are switching from girls to ladyboys. From a business perspective are ladyboy bars in Nana more profitable than a regular female gogo bar? Are they busier?
Lollipop
Yeah, Lollipop in Nana Plaza is the only go-go bar in Thailand where I honestly am not sure if 2-3 of the dancers are Ladyboys or not! LOL. I feel comfortable spotting them quite easily in any other bar. But there are a handful of very smiley, "please barfine me, honey" types in Lollipop that look pretty good but who truly have me stumped while they are onstage. Guess I could take one up on all the smiley encouragement, call one over and put an end to the mystery sometime.Lets just say that 3 or 4 girls from Lollipop look like 90% ladyboys, so you would not take the risk. Better to be mistake a girl for a ladyboy than the reverse. In any case, any girl that really looks like a ladyboy means she is not my spec for sure. It is a surgeries look. Baffled me that these "girls" seemed to be popular with Farang customers. In Cowboy most Ladyboy customers are Asian guys. Even met a Bahrain guy (similar to Indian looks) the other day asking me for directions to "Cock-a-too".
I have done plenty of very tall girls in the past, so I don't rule girls out just because they are tall, even they say they are often accused of being ladyboys. Its just not as simple as being tall. Being tall does arouse some suspicion, but I never rule out a girl for that reason only. I reckon finger up the pussy to feel the uterus is a pretty good test, however it is rare I would be in such doubt to need that. I just don't take those risks. LOL.
Just curious why bars are switching from girls to ladyboys. From a business perspective are ladyboy bars in Nana more profitable than a regular female gogo bar? Are they busier?According to Stickman, who no longer writes his online weekly article but did so up until a few months ago, the Ladyboy Bars were the only bars consistently making money in Nana Plaza. And he was supposed to be quite on the inside in terms of knowing how much the bar rents were, how much they were making per week / month, knowing the bar owners fairly well and all. But I don't recall if he ever said why. I have been in a couple of Ladyboy bars due to my and some friends' curiosity. Seemed to me I saw a couple of Asian tour groups showing up, to the delight of the dancers. Was the answer that a tour stop, even if only for the sake of curiosity, kept the money coming in consistently? Not to mention the number of Ladyboys being barfined out by some of those tourist customers as well.
The only way a Ladyboy bar could make more money from me is if I ever decided to talk a stroll on the wrong side and barfine one I would most certainly need to load up on many, many more alcoholic beverages than I ordinarily drink in a whole month to be able to take that step. LOL. Maybe that is the secret to their more profitable business model.
Baffled me that these "girls" seemed to be popular with Farang customers. In Cowboy most Ladyboy customers are Asian guys. Even met a Bahrain guy (similar to Indian looks) the other day asking me for directions to "Cock-a-too".
Yes, that was one of the reasons I had doubts about 2-3 of them in Lollipop go-go bar being Ladyboys. They were sitting with average-looking Farang customers who seemed perfectly comfortable with them to the point of perhaps being their repeat ST customers. In one case I could just barely hear the Ladyboy's voice through the loud music and that was an easy giveaway. Did those other guys not know? Or had they gone further in their research and were now convinced they were indeed sitting with genuine females after all? It is only 2-3 dancers at most in there who left me in doubt. Others were clearly Ladyboys. And the rest seemed clearly not to be Ladyboys but genuine females.
Had a quick look in After Skool this week. Nothing interested me at all, so left after maybe 10 mins. Perhaps one girl was a pass but she was busy with a customer, getting groped I guess.
I haven't been there for a few months now but used to go ever 3 to 4 months when I was in town. Sometimes the girls were pretty good, other times not so. I think they may have an above average turnover of girls. The mamasam always recognises me and I uaually buy her a drink, but very few girls know me every time I go, so the staff do change a fair bit. When I do go there I tend to spend a fair bit on drinks for myself and the girls.
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Yes, that was one of the reasons I had doubts about 2-3 of them in Lollipop go-go bar being Ladyboys. They were sitting with average-looking Farang customers who seemed perfectly comfortable with them to the point of perhaps being their repeat ST customers. In one case I could just barely hear the Ladyboy's voice through the loud music and that was an easy giveaway. Did those other guys not know? Or had they gone further in their research and were now convinced they were indeed sitting with genuine females after all? It is only 2-3 dancers at most in there who left me in doubt. Others were clearly Ladyboys. And the rest seemed clearly not to be Ladyboys but genuine females.The probable LBs were on other side of the room, so I did not hear any voices. Nice of you to confirm I was not just imagining things. The customers buying them drinks were younger and more handsome than me. I have nothing against sitting and chatting with charming LBs who can be a lot of fun (maybe that is rare. Not sure). I just don't want to ever see the dick and I need a real pussy, for sexual encounters. I have no inclination to even try LB BBBJ, and certainly no tongue kissing. For some reason though, gay men are a much bigger turn off than LBs though, if they start acting too sexy. Just my conditioning I guess. Never had an encounter with a bitchy Tom so I don't know what that is like. Had a good fuck from a Tom or two though so it seemed they were bi-sexual girls. Actually one must have been a "Dee" I guess, and has two kids by now, but at one time she had a Tom dickless "boyfriend".
I don't get put off a bar just because of a small number of LBs. As long as they are not a hassle. I used to attend Easy cart bar that had a very nice LB. A lot of cute girls in Lollipop so I think it is well worth attending compared to other Nana bars. The average standard of girl looks including the faces, was well above other Nana bars I have visited recently. I think the looks shit on Billboard. Lollipop is also brightly lit so you can see the girls properly. Obviously I am ignoring a few horror boob jobs and the LBs.
New manager in Suzie Wong looks like a Tom. Pushy type to be avoided.
The only time I ever saw a LB naked was when looked in the door of Voodoo (or whatever its name was in the LB period). The LB had a black bush, no dick evident but the shape of the nether region looked obviously wrong even from a distance. I guess it is not easy for a man to have a lady's shape unless having female hormones from a young age.
Redfield10
11-13-17, 20:27
Has been covered any times. "Charoen" Pharmacy (big shop) on Sukhumvit Road, just West of Soi 4 (towards Soi 2) and near the Irish pub has a big range of medications. Don't ask for Cialis. That will cost far more than Apcalis. "Generic Tadalafil" is the other term.
There are plenty of other places. I mention just one.Thank you.
Houston Player
11-14-17, 03:39
Smoothy I am not questioning what you say but the problem that I find with your story is that Ladyboys are not able to change their gender on their ID. So surely the place where they worked would have seen their ID and know if they were born male or female.
Smoothy I am not questioning what you say but the problem that I find with your story is that Ladyboys are not able to change their gender on their ID. So surely the place where they worked would have seen their ID and know if they were born male or female.Isn't BKK notorious for being able to create some of the world's most popular IDs. And all this on Khousan road?
Just saying. Getting a fake ID in BKK is easy.
Smoothy I am not questioning what you say but the problem that I find with your story is that Ladyboys are not able to change their gender on their ID. So surely the place where they worked would have seen their ID and know if they were born male or female.I thought the same. Although if they can get an operation to change from a dude to a chick, I would imagine they could somehow find connections to get a fake ID. I'm not as familiar with Thailand, but I know in Indonesia that almost every working girl has a fake ID.
I'm not as familiar with Thailand, but I know in Indonesia that almost every working girl has a fake ID.My understanding is that ID's are issued at village level.
GasolineFire
11-14-17, 12:11
My understanding is that ID's are issued at village level.Yes ID is issued at your local Amphoe where you Tabien Baan is registered too. You cannot change from man to woman or other way, Official Thai ID will always show your birth sex. It's possible of course to have a fake ID, but what's the point?
It's possible of course to have a fake ID, but what's the point?What's the point? If a lady boy wants to have people think they are a female.
Crocodilexp
11-15-17, 01:34
I thought the same. Although if they can get an operation to change from a dude to a chick, I would imagine they could somehow find connections to get a fake ID. I'm not as familiar with Thailand, but I know in Indonesia that almost every working girl has a fake ID.Thai ID (at least one issued within the last 5-10 years) is a lot harder to fake. Indonesia one could be made by any print shop.
As for getting a real Thai ID with fake data, it must be possible, but I doubt it's particularly easy these days, and it wouldn't come cheap. More of a Hi-so guy covering his tracks territory. Would not expect that level of effort / connections / expense from a ladyboy hooker hiding they're male just in case a problem customer cares, insists on checking ID and doesn't take "I forgot mine" or "it's my brother's" as an answer. If they're pretty, they'll have plenty of customers who don't vehemently insist on scrutinizing their ID, and if they're not, it'll be obvious they're a ladyboy.
Isn't BKK notorious for being able to create some of the world's most popular IDs. And all this on Khousan road?
Just saying. Getting a fake ID in BKK is easy.Its not that easy anymore, if its temporary or not I don't know for sure though.
About six months ago it was 6-8 diffrent ones that would make a descent fake idcard (not the fake Student or Presscard ID) for about 500-700 baht at Kh. San road.
Nowadays you would be lucky to find 2 since there been numerous of crackdowns by The Royal Thai police officers that demands higher "teamoney" fines.
And for sure the prices have gone up to at least 1500 baht or more and also longer waiting time to collect your card / s.
As my trip to Bangkok is getting nearer I was wondering about the differences between the mamasans and waitresses working in go-go bars and how to treat them right.
I have been going to BKK a few times now and of all choices (Oily and Soapy MP's, FL, Beer bars, Dating sites, .) I have to say that the Go-Go bars are my favorite place to look for WG). Even though I spend most of my time in the gogo's and having read some posts here on this forum, I can't even see the difference between the mamasan and the waitresses in all places. Places like in Crazy House I have noticed the Mamasan but in other places such as Shark and Billboard which are two of the other places I like to spend time in I might have overlooked the mamasan. Perhaps I'm not paying too much attention what's going on in the bars except for what's happening on stage.
Usually I lay my eyes on a girl that I like on stage and wait until she comes over without asking anybody to bring her to me. I usually let the girl understand to come over to me while she's on stage. I believe that I have asked a waiter once to get somebody off the stage only as I couldn't wait any longer as she kept on dancing!
I personally don't think that there are advantages to ask the mamasan or other personnel anything about the girls who are on stage.
I think that at the end, we have a pair of eyes and we can ask the girl anything we want her to ask while offering her a LD. After some small talk you can conclude whether there's chemistry between the girl and you or not prior to taking her out for a good time.
I have never left a tip in the cases I took a girl out or it must be the change of the bill that I leave behind.
I don't consider myself as a stingy person. I just don't see the use to tip a waiter / mamasan if they haven't provided me any services (Except for bringing me my order) in order to choose the girl. I'm a conversationalist but in such venues I'm not the type of person that needs to chat with anybody else but the WG. At the end I'm paying my BF plus the ST / LT fee. It happens that from time to time I may order a drink to the waitress as well. Usually it doesn't happen often that waitresses or mamasans or whoever they are are pushy with me. The ones who are pushy I simply ignore.
I must say that I have never felt any discontent of anybody in the bar when I took a girl out but reading some stories I see people paying 300 bath or more to the mamasan or waitress.
Perhaps I might be wrong in the way I'm dealing with it and if there is some sort of etiquette then I'm interested to hear about it. I think that most probably every single one of us has their own way of dealing with it and perhaps the need to have a chat with others as well which is course is totally fine.
As my trip to Bangkok is getting nearer I was wondering about the differences between the mamasans and waitresses working in go-go bars and how to treat them right.
I have been going to BKK a few times now and of all choices (Oily and Soapy MP's, FL, Beer bars, Dating sites, .) I have to say that the Go-Go bars are my favorite place to look for WG). Even though I spend most of my time in the gogo's and having read some posts here on this forum, I can't even see the difference between the mamasan and the waitresses in all places. Places like in Crazy House I have noticed the Mamasan but in other places such as Shark and Billboard which are two of the other places I like to spend time in I might have overlooked the mamasan. Perhaps I'm not paying too much attention what's going on in the bars except for what's happening on stage.
Usually I lay my eyes on a girl that I like on stage and wait until she comes over without asking anybody to bring her to me. I usually let the girl understand to come over to me while she's on stage. I believe that I have asked a waiter once to get somebody off the stage only as I couldn't wait any longer as she kept on dancing!
I personally don't think that there are advantages to ask the mamasan or other personnel anything about the girls who are on stage.
I think that at the end, we have a pair of eyes and we can ask the girl anything we want her to ask while offering her a LD. After some small talk you can conclude whether there's chemistry between the girl and you or not prior to taking her out for a good time.
I have never left a tip in the cases I took a girl out or it must be the change of the bill that I leave behind.
I don't consider myself as a stingy person. I just don't see the use to tip a waiter / mamasan if they haven't provided me any services (Except for bringing me my order) in order to choose the girl. I'm a conversationalist but in such venues I'm not the type of person that needs to chat with anybody else but the WG. At the end I'm paying my BF plus the ST / LT fee. It happens that from time to time I may order a drink to the waitress as well. Usually it doesn't happen often that waitresses or mamasans or whoever they are are pushy with me. The ones who are pushy I simply ignore.
I must say that I have never felt any discontent of anybody in the bar when I took a girl out but reading some stories I see people paying 300 bath or more to the mamasan or waitress.
Perhaps I might be wrong in the way I'm dealing with it and if there is some sort of etiquette then I'm interested to hear about it. I think that most probably every single one of us has their own way of dealing with it and perhaps the need to have a chat with others as well which is course is totally fine.I am with you on this. Nobody who has never been in a hotel room with a girl and her customer knows a damn thing about what that girl does or doesn't do unless you can actually get a waitress or a mamasan to tell you this or that girl gets tons of complaints from customers who return to the bar asking for refunds often or something. I doubt anyone would tell you such a thing even if they knew it to be true, which they probably don't since I don't even believe they pay all that much attention to anything like that. I used to ask mamasans which girls tend to get a lot of repeat customers, thinking that would certainly tell me something about the girl's work ethic. First reaction from a mamasan to a question like that is to screw up her face and wonder why on earth anyone would want to know such a thing and they have no idea which girls get a lot of repeat customers. Or they will say EVERY girl you ask about gets a lot of repeat customers. Total waste of time.
The two biggest, most ridiculous waste of time go-go dancers I have paid a barfine for and taken out in the past year were the result of foolishly taking the mamasan's word for it that they were good girls who really take care of their customers. lol.
I have often wondered if there is some magical advantage to asking a mamasan to call down a certain girl for me rather than do what you (and I) do; just make eye contact from the stage and gesture for her to come over now or after her set. I see other guys doing chatting with the mamasan and gesturing to this or that girl, then the mamasan shines her pin light on the girl and call her down for the guy. But I don't see those guys establishing wonderful chemistry, closing deals with girls and walking out with them after a LD or two any more often than if they had just done what I do.
On the mamasan tip or Lady Drink, I must have done it 2-3 times early in my time living in Bangkok. I can't say I never do it anymore but it is very rare. Not even sure what makes me ok with doing it now unless there is just something cute or clever about the way the mamasan asks for it. That has happened. But most of the time I just level my gaze back at the mamasan, smile and simply say, "Next time." But that next time never comes. They all know what "Next time" means. It means no. And they seem to accept it just fine. I have never noticed my not tipping or not buying a mamasan a LD having anything to do with how successful my time is with the girl back in my room. If anything, I feel like my not falling for it but just playfully shrugging off the mamasan's request shows the girl sitting next to me that I am not a chump willing to just throw away money for nothing.
Its not that easy anymore, if its temporary or not I don't know for sure though.
About six months ago it was 6-8 diffrent ones that would make a descent fake idcard (not the fake Student or Presscard ID) for about 500-700 baht at Kh. San road.
Nowadays you would be lucky to find 2 since there been numerous of crackdowns by The Royal Thai police officers that demands higher "teamoney" fines.
And for sure the prices have gone up to at least 1500 baht or more and also longer waiting time to collect your card / s.Interesting. Didn't know that.
On a side note: I've seen some really crazy fake IDs out there. I even met a guy who said he can fabricate an LAPD badge and showed me photos too. Cray city this BKK.
On the mamasan tip or Lady Drink, I must have done it 2-3 times early in my time living in Bangkok. I can't say I never do it anymore but it is very rare. I buy the mamasan a drink in After Skool if I go there, whether I take a girl out or get a BJ there. I've been going there for many, many years so I don't mind. I don't go there often these days, maybe every 6 months, so it's not costing me a lot. I do it more out of habit.
Interesting. Didn't know that.
On a side note: I've seen some really crazy fake IDs out there. I even met a guy who said he can fabricate an LAPD badge and showed me photos too. Cray city this BKK.The junta government trying to clean up, have a look at MBK now, its been raided several times and the Gucci, Chanel, Prada, Rayban and Oakleys aint easy to find.
Several stall have closed.
About the badge, it might be real one, a thing in a photo is kind of useless, its nothing but a photo. Not saying that the guy couldn't provide you with one, but for sure it won't be cheap.
I was offered to buy a Fake Thai ID card and one Thai drivers license for Motorbike and one for car for 6000 Baht, it was a security guard at Kings castle Patpong, that needed Christmas money.
I am with you on this. Nobody who has never been in a hotel room with a girl and her customer knows a damn thing about what that girl does or doesn't do unless you can actually get a waitress or a mamasan to tell you this or that girl gets tons of complaints from customers who return to the bar asking for refunds often or something. I doubt anyone would tell you such a thing even if they knew it to be true, which they probably don't since I don't even believe they pay all that much attention to anything like that. I used to ask mamasans which girls tend to get a lot of repeat customers, thinking that would certainly tell me something about the girl's work ethic. First reaction from a mamasan to a question like that is to screw up her face and wonder why on earth anyone would want to know such a thing and they have no idea which girls get a lot of repeat customers. Or they will say EVERY girl you ask about gets a lot of repeat customers. Total waste of time.
The two biggest, most ridiculous waste of time go-go dancers I have paid a barfine for and taken out in the past year were the result of foolishly taking the mamasan's word for it that they were good girls who really take care of their customers. lol.
I have often wondered if there is some magical advantage to asking a mamasan to call down a certain girl for me rather than do what you (and I) do; just make eye contact from the stage and gesture for her to come over now or after her set. I see other guys doing chatting with the mamasan and gesturing to this or that girl, then the mamasan shines her pin light on the girl and call her down for the guy. But I don't see those guys establishing wonderful chemistry, closing deals with girls and walking out with them after a LD or two any more often than if they had just done what I do.
On the mamasan tip or Lady Drink, I must have done it 2-3 times early in my time living in Bangkok. I can't say I never do it anymore but it is very rare. Not even sure what makes me ok with doing it now unless there is just something cute or clever about the way the mamasan asks for it. That has happened. But most of the time I just level my gaze back at the mamasan, smile and simply say, "Next time." But that next time never comes. They all know what "Next time" means. It means no. And they seem to accept it just fine. I have never noticed my not tipping or not buying a mamasan a LD having anything to do with how successful my time is with the girl back in my room. If anything, I feel like my not falling for it but just playfully shrugging off the mamasan's request shows the girl sitting next to me that I am not a chump willing to just throw away money for nothing.I can understand that clients do buy a drink for the mamasan or a waitress just like any other customer who would drink a beverage in a regular bar and buy a drink for the waitress or bartender due to some good interaction and that they have provided good service. I can also imagine that there are customers that are nervous, drunk or want to be popular for some reason and buy drinks or tip whether or not generous to mamasans / waitresses. The most logical reason of buying a drink or perhaps even tipping the mamasan to me is that when you are a regular.
Whatever the mamasan tells you, when you bring the WG home there's a possibility that she sucks your pink poodle so hard that the bed sheet start to go up your ass. There's also the possibility the WG bites Mr Sniffles in half. I think that it all depends on how you treat the girl and whether there's a spark you could catch during the interaction with the WG before deciding to take her out for action.
I can understand that clients do buy a drink for the mamasan or a waitress just like any other customer who would drink a beverage in a regular bar and buy a drink for the waitress or bartender due to some good interaction and that they have provided good service. I can also imagine that there are customers that are nervous, drunk or want to be popular for some reason and buy drinks or tip whether or not generous to mamasans / waitresses. The most logical reason of buying a drink or perhaps even tipping the mamasan to me is that when you are a regular.
Whatever the mamasan tells you, when you bring the WG home there's a possibility that she sucks your pink poodle so hard that the bed sheet start to go up your ass. There's also the possibility the WG bites Mr Sniffles in half. I think that it all depends on how you treat the girl and whether there's a spark you could catch during the interaction with the WG before deciding to take her out for action.Yes, but I wouldn't put much stock in the part about it all depending on how you treat the girl and feeling sparks in the bar. Sure, it can be a memorable experience when the stars and moon line up, you treat her really well, she reciprocates accordingly, the sparks fly even more in the room than they did in the bar and they flew really well there. But more often than not all those factors have no more relationship one to another than the real stars and moon. It is just a pleasant coincidence we choose to believe had some causal connection. But really didn't.
Some of the worst P4P experiences I have had in Thailand followed me treating the girl really well and sparks flying so strong in the bar my eyebrows got burnt. The girl just had a different agenda in mind that night no matter what I brought to the party.
Crazy4Thai
11-19-17, 02:57
Some of the worst P4P experiences I have had in Thailand followed me treating the girl really well and sparks flying so strong in the bar my eyebrows got burnt. The girl just had a different agenda in mind that night no matter what I brought to the party.Unfortunately this is too true in my experience too. Some of the girls are great marketeers. As ET says the sparks are flying! And then, in the room a complete starfish. Or not even accept the offer to barfine as they were just in it for the drinks. I even had that experience in a beer bar. This is one more reason the guys are pining for "the good old days".
Unfortunately this is too true in my experience too. Some of the girls are great marketeers. As ET says the sparks are flying! And then, in the room a complete starfish. Or not even accept the offer to barfine as they were just in it for the drinks. I even had that experience in a beer bar. This is one more reason the guys are pining for "the good old days".The tour is full of hits and misses. It is what makes it fun. You never really know what you will get and sometimes the ones you think will be duds end up being stars. I have an MO (works for me) to try and reduce the odds of a starfish or waste of drinks. When they ask to be barfined or taken home from clubs I am pretty direct. I ask can they perform and what will they do for the money. It sounds very transactional but remember that you are a walking ATM so if you are going to dispense cash you need to know what you are buying (renting in this case). I also promise a tip if they perform to what they claim. It does not always guarantee a result but I have more hits than misses these days. My last trip the BKK I was being marketed to in a bar by a stunning girl and I usually leave the really attractive ones as they are usually the worst performers. However I was keen to taste so we spent about 15 minutes agreeing to terms and conditions. Yes there was little chemistry initially and it was all about the money. But once the deal was set (LT) we then proceeded to have a fun night that included bar hoping and dancing. Complete GFE who stayed well into the late afternoon. It was a total surprise and money well spent (IMHO).
So guys there is no guarantee and so just play the odds. Some hits and misses are all part of P4 P so accept it and move on to the next hit.
Happy Hunting.
The tour is full of hits and misses. It is what makes it fun. Fun? I wouldn't go that far. LOL!
So guys there is no guarantee and so just play the odds. Some hits and misses are all part of P4 P so accept it and move on to the next hit.Definitely a good advice!
In my earlier days, I would get angry, and my day would be ruined. A few times I reacted negatively to the girl, "forcing" the girl to react back, resulting in bad vibes for all.
Yes, but I wouldn't put much stock in the part about it all depending on how you treat the girl and feeling sparks in the bar. Sure, it can be a memorable experience when the stars and moon line up, you treat her really well, she reciprocates accordingly, the sparks fly even more in the room than they did in the bar and they flew really well there. But more often than not all those factors have no more relationship one to another than the real stars and moon. It is just a pleasant coincidence we choose to believe had some causal connection. But really didn't.
Some of the worst P4P experiences I have had in Thailand followed me treating the girl really well and sparks flying so strong in the bar my eyebrows got burnt. The girl just had a different agenda in mind that night no matter what I brought to the party.I think their are a few factors that show some correlation with a good time. It is not totally random. There are fun girls existing out there if they can be found. There are girls that like a good fucking. There are girls that get into the mood and get it off. Most of my girls can have an orgasm at least sometimes, if not every time. Those that cum very easily almost always cum. Those that cum with difficulty sometimes are in the mood and get there.
There are no universal recipes no guarantees.
I find that the shorter the amount of time you have known a girl for, the more you are trusting to shear luck. I have a better success rate with girls that I have sussed out over multiple visits before actually fucking her. Not all of us have that much time. Two of my regular bargirls I really knew for some time before first sex. Check out if the girl seems to have any regular customers and are they in any way similar to myself. Girls that have many regulars usually have them for a reason.
Next I believe you have to find girls where you are her preferred type. No use getting a girl that likes young spunky guys or Japanese. No use for me to get a girl that is used to small dicks. There are plenty of girls that prefer older Farangs. It is best to get a girl preferring Farangs for several years. I have much better success rate with mothers with low to unnoticeable damage. Only one of my regular girls is not a mother. Partly coincidence since several of my non-mothers disappeared off the radar in the last year. This is not for everyone, but know your preferred types. I don't like bad deterioration of the figure due to a child whether gross scars, medium stretching marks or sag bags. I do tolerate very small tits quite well, but not deflated bags.
Very inhibited girls are not likely to be good without a few drinks. Many girls need some level of intoxication. Sus out how a girl changes with a few drinks.
Very experienced girls are generally much better than newbies or girls with low experience. A virgin just does not know what to do. Has no skills, does not know how to give a decent BBBJ, etc. , is scared rather than relaxed.
It is definitely more likely to do well with girls that give a great DFK. Excellent DFK in the bar is definitely a positive sign even if this is hard to come by.
Despite finding any ways to get an advantage at all, there is still a significant risk. They is still the problem of finding girls with the right looks. It is still a lot easier just to repeat the known good performers. The number of new girls I tried this year was quite low, and those that were somewhat rushed decisions were almost all mistakes or not worth repeating. I definitely had more shear luck with new girls tried last year. I also recognise that I am going downhill. I was happy with a higher proportion of girls when I was younger, or more tolerant of difficulties and lack of skills. It is much more easy for me to lose the interest in the modern day.
Very lovey dovey and kissy girls still rarely are bad. Just did not find enough of those this year.
A girl just met that appears to be very keen, is not a great sign at all, since as ET and others point out, she can be just very keen to get your money. A girl could see you glance at her (e.g. in the Thermae) and give a very big inviting smile back, but means nothing to me. O.K. She does not hate me (yet). However me liking to take huge time to get to know girls before making a decision is probably not very compatible with the way Thermae works. Also I don't like how the girl is so surrounded by her girlfriends. I can't ask the girl to come and sit on my lap for a while, and to show me her tits. LOL Plenty of girls there are hooking their fish within a couple of minutes.
There are fun girls existing out there if they can be found. There are girls that like a good fucking. Regardless, they still want money.
Regardless, they still want money.Women. Can't live with them.
Regardless, they still want money.Still a great catch when you find one. Ran into one at 5 am getting coffee at Holly's Coffee shop. Looked like her friend talked her into it.
And yes she wanted some money but she was totally dtf didn't leave till 11 am after several rounds of mayhem. Paid her 1500 baht. Took me a day to recover.
Well, first time to Bangkok, and while I like the city, the people and culture, the Nana plaza area, for me, is a rat hole. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if fried rat is being served at some of the street vendor grills. Along with fried cockroaches. I wandered into the Nana Plaza proper a few times and couldn't believe the nasty, nasty atmosphere along with every two bit hustler trying to sell you sunglasses, beads, assorted bric-a-brac and other useless crap. Please. Anyway, wandered around the corner to buy a bottle of water to drink from the 7-11 for the equivalent of 50 cents rather than pay the equivalent of 7 dollars at one of the disgusting, crowded bars that play Rap music. Jesus, help me, effing Rap,. And then sat in dismay on a bench up the way from Hooters. While pondering this sad state of affairs, a nice Thai girl from up north, an older unit country girl, sat next to me and nervously eyed me. Finally, I broke the ice and asked her name, where she from, etc. After some chat, I offered to buy her something to eat further down the Suki at a 24 hour cafe / massage parlor. We passed the fat, chain smoking Russian girl on the way. Later, we went back to the Dynasty Inn (also disgusting) for a multi hour romp. She turned out to be the freak of the week, in a good way if one is into bent perversion, such as myself. She went home at daybreak with 2000 Baht and happy. No complaining.
KhyatiDropbox
11-23-17, 06:29
I landed in Bangkok yesterday and I plan on documenting my next week here. I've been here a few times before so pretty familiar with how things work but not a lot of mongering experience overall.
I got in a bit early in the morning and I'm staying in Asoke this time around. I pretty much spent the day prepping for my trip. Picked up some beers, whiskey & wine for my room along with some snacks and other things. Got some Kamagra Jelly from the Pharmacy behind Soi Cowboy (he was selling for 100 baht a pop so I only bought a few for the time being. The pharmacy outside Nana sells them for 50 baht a pop and I think the packs of 5 are even cheaper).
I stopped in for a Thai Massage at Massage at LE. This was a clean no happy ending massage offered type of deal but for 290 baht that lady really loosened me up, which is exactly what I needed after that long flight in economy.
I started my night out at around 7:30 PM and get into Soi Cowboy. My plan for the night was to go see some of my girls from the previous trip and mostly get a feel of what's changed since my last visit.
I hopped between a lot of different Gogos:
Shark. Nice selection of girls but the girls in yellow were BF at 2-3 K and the girls in orange were 700 baht. They wanted 3000ST and 6000 LT which was ridiculous. One of my previous girls from Coiwboy 2 has now moved to Shark but unfortunately she was in Yellow and I was not going to drop 6-9 K for her. I had a few beers, bought a drink for a cute girl I had seen on my last trip, however she was only available for ST so I didn't take her back. Do-not BF the short haired girl with lots of tattoos (previously a red-head, now she has gone black) - I took her for ST on my last trip and she was definitely a starfish with a terrible body and baby damage.
Lighthouse. I went into Lighthouse first at 7:30 PM and then again around 9:30 PM. Both times it was pretty slow with a few okay girls on stage. No stunner.
Cowboy 2 - For some reason I really like the setup here. Those little booths with a small dance platform are perfect to pick a couple of girls and spend a few hours. I had my eye on a tiny spinner with huge boobs but unfortunately she was with some Japanese punter. I dropped in a few times throughout the night to see if she was still there but unfortunately he was with her pretty much the whole night. No other girls caught my fancy, so I paid for my beer and moved on.
Tilac. I spent a lot of time at Tilac on my last trip. Went into see if the hot coyote I took home last time was still there but unfortunately she was on her day off. I went in and had a few drinks, spent some time with the mamsaan who remembered me from the last time. The place was packed with girls on all the tables. I bought a drink for a cute girl (who was a coyote last time around but was a regular girl this time). It was 700 BF and 3000ST & 4000 LT. I intended to come back in a bit and pick her up but as you'll see below, I got distracted a bit I'll probably go back in a few days and see if I can take her out. She looked great, nice body and great attitude. But for some reason I wasn't convinced if she would be a great fuck.
CrazyHouse. Wanted 500 baht cover charge without letting me see the ladies first. Told him to fuck off.
Dollhouse. I went in and out of Dollhouse a few times in the night. From 7:30 onwards they had a great set of girls on stage and a particular girl got my attention but she didn't seem young enough for my usual taste. When I stumbled back in here around 10 PM (Fairly drunk by now). I spent some time by myself getting a beer. I noticed the girl from earlier in the night was still there and she was extremely into dancing and was really moving around very seductively. I asked the mamsaan to call her down for a drink but she still had to dance for another 5-10 minutes or so. She literally spent the next 10 minutes with continuous eye contact performing one of the sexiest seductive dances I have seen in Thailand. This was absolutely amazing and I immediately knew I had to take her back and get a private show.
At Dollhouse, I believe its 2 drinks for the girl, 700 BF and she was only available for ST at 3000 baht as she had a Thai boyfriend. We went back to the hotel, got a quick shower and then spent the next 2-3 hours fucking like rabbits. She was great, had amazing stamina, a very nice pussy and extremely clean. Definitely one of my top 3 experiences in Bangkok so far.
I walked her back to the bar and I was planning on getting a few more drinks and maybe picking up another girl. But I soon realized that I was a bit too drunk at this point (9-10 beers and no dinner). So I walked over to a 24/7 Italian place down the road and got a quick pizza and headed back to crash.
All in all a great day in Bangkok. Definitely recommend Massage at LE & Dollhouse as of now.
This morning the plan is to get some work done, drop in for a hot stone massage and then I have an escort from AAB meeting me for the day. I know a lot of the guys here think escorts are overrated and too expensive. But for me personally the thrill of picking someone online and the excitement of knowing who you will be getting in advance is different from the gogo bar scene and I really enjoy it as well.
CrazyHouse. Wanted 500 baht cover charge without letting me see the ladies first. Told him to fuck off.I was there at peak of high season once and they asked for 100 at the door. Any one else currently there being asked for a rip-off cover charge? Will be there in T-10 days.
CrazyHouse. Wanted 500 baht cover charge without letting me see the ladies first. Told him to fuck off.I've never heard of that one before. Are you Indian, Arabic or Black? I know they have had problems with those type of guys. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
Hi guys,
In Bangkok for a night, am really looking for some solid help. Can someone please help me out with a place that is good, clean, offers a killer massage with a nice HJ / BJ in the end? Not really looking for full sex.
KhyatiDropbox
11-24-17, 04:53
I woke up relatively early and went downstairs to get some breakfast and then a few hours of work. I followed this up with a ramen lunch at Terminal 21 and then walked down to Massage at LE for a hot stone massage which was great!
I got back to my hotel around 4-5 PM and my escort was at the door by 6 PM. She looked great, absolute stunner and incredible body. After a quick shower, we sat down and had a few beers and got to know each other a bit. One thing led to another and I got an incredible BJ followed by some great sex in many different positions.
We walked down to a rooftop place in Terminal 21 for a quick dinner (Great beef lasagna!) and then she asked if I would like to go to Soi Cowboy for a few drinks. I've never been to a gogo bar before with a girl already with me. And it was quite an interesting experience.
We made a quick stop at Tilac (met my hot coyote from the last trip and exchanged line IDs) and had a few drinks while watching some incredible coyote performances. The bar was absolutely packed (at least 50-80 girls) and many punters as well. We then decided to go to NEP for a few more drinks and took a metered taxi over (Incidentally first time I have got a taxi in Bangkok on the meter!
We started out with Billboard which was packed solid with girls and punters. They had some amazing music and a LOT of girls, some of them were fairly attractive as well. One of the girls was good friends with my girl but unfortunately she got BF'd before I could call her over! We have several drinks here and my girl and I spent the night picking our favorite ass, tits etc from the girls on stage.
We then went down to Bangkok Bunnies which was pretty much dead. 2-3 punters, 15 girls doing the shuffle and mellow music. Very disappointing. We finished our drink and bounced.
We ended the night up at Butterflies, which was great. Not so many girls (20-30) but many of them were very attractive and great dancers. The music was good (and those leather sofas are so comfortable! So we stayed for a few hours and had several dozen drinks here. Got this dark skinned girl with glasses to come have a few drinks with us. She was a phenomenal dancer and great body and personality. She gave me several great lap dances and spent a lot of the night dancing together my with girl.
As the night went on and my girl got drunker, she started moving around the bar and dancing with many of the girls and was great fun! I got several nods of approval from other punters around.
Anyway, at this point I decided I was ready for round 2, so we payed the bill and headed back to my hotel.
Once back, we had a few more drinks and my girl performed a private show for me (in some sexy lingerie) for an hour or so. She loves to dance so that was a lot of fun and very sexy. Eventually this turned into an incredible BJ (She really has some amazing skills!) that went on for very long and after a bit of 69, we fucked in CG, reverse CG, doggy, sideways, missionary, scissor and I eventually finished in 69 while receiving a sloppy deep throat BJ with CIM and swallow!
At this point it was close to 3-4 AM so we pretty much passed out on each other.
All in all it was a great night. I am not sure if I will do another 24 hour booking again though (Honestly after the first 4-5 hours, it gets a bit boring and the monger in me wants a new girl every few hours! I think I am much better suited to Gogos but this was a very different and fun experience as well.
I have a few more hours with this girl, so I will definitely get my morning BJ and fuck now but I might send her home a bit earlier and get a nice massage instead.
The plan for tonight is to head out to NEP and maybe get a few more drinks with a couple cute girls I noticed at Billboard and Butterflies.
KhyatiDropbox
11-24-17, 04:54
I was there at peak of high season once and they asked for 100 at the door. Any one else currently there being asked for a rip-off cover charge? Will be there in T-10 days.I'm sure it was because of skin colour. Oh well their loss though. On my last trip, I tried to go to crazy house. They asked for a cover and I ended up dropping 20-30 k baht in a night at Tilac instead (Last night & too much money left over.
Well, first time to Bangkok, and while I like the city, the people and culture, the Nana plaza area, for me, is a rat hole. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if fried rat is being served at some of the street vendor grills. Along with fried cockroaches. I wandered into the Nana Plaza proper a few times and couldn't believe the nasty, nasty atmosphere along with every two bit hustler trying to sell you sunglasses, beads, assorted bric-a-brac and other useless crap. Please. Anyway, wandered around the corner to buy a bottle of water to drink from the 7-11 for the equivalent of 50 cents rather than pay the equivalent of 7 dollars at one of the disgusting, crowded bars that play Rap music. Jesus, help me, effing RapI hadn't been to Patpong in 10 years or so, so I took the BTS to Sala Daeng recently. The ambiance there still sucks with that horrible night market that clogs up the street and the touts every 10 meters who try to lure you into the rip-off upstairs bars (I suppose these bars are still rip-offs anyway). What striked me was that a lot of the bars, if not all, had their doors open and had no curtains so you could actually see from outside how many customers they had inside. Most of the bars were rather empty (it was a week day) and I don't like that very much.
King's Castle 1 however was pretty crowded and since it was recommended here by Natty Bumpo I went in there. And I must say I was pleasantly surprised. The line up was good with about 60-70 girls in total I think, ranging from 7's to 8's and maybe a few 8.5's or 9's. The music was loud but not extremely loud so conversation was more or less possible (not totally impossible anyway).
Pretty soon I was accompanied by a very sweet and pretty 21 yo cutie who claimed she had only started working there 2 weeks ago. Could be true. She was fun and definitely not a seasoned pro, that's for sure. Of course she asked for a few lady drinks and some other girls wanted to sit with me as well when she had to dance but no one, including waitresses and mamasans, was pushy. All in all a relaxed atmosphere and I had a good time.
I didn't barfine the girl though.
So maybe it's time we move our asses to Patpong and leave rathole Nana and Coyote infested Soi Cowboy to the ignorant tourists?
I hadn't been to Patpong in 10 years or so, so I took the BTS to Sala Daeng recently. The ambiance there still sucks with that horrible night market that clogs up the street and the touts every 10 meters who try to lure you into the rip-off upstairs bars (I suppose these bars are still rip-offs anyway). What striked me was that a lot of the bars, if not all, had their doors open and had no curtains so you could actually see from outside how many customers they had inside. Most of the bars were rather empty (it was a week day) and I don't like that very much.
King's Castle 1 however was pretty crowded and since it was recommended here by Natty Bumpo I went in there. And I must say I was pleasantly surprised. The line up was good with about 60-70 girls in total I think, ranging from 7's to 8's and maybe a few 8.5's or 9's. The music was loud but not extremely loud so conversation was more or less possible (not totally impossible anyway).
Pretty soon I was accompanied by a very sweet and pretty 21 yo cutie who claimed she had only started working there 2 weeks ago. Could be true. She was fun and definitely not a seasoned pro, that's for sure. Of course she asked for a few lady drinks and some other girls wanted to sit with me as well when she had to dance but no one, including waitresses and mamasans, was pushy. All in all a relaxed atmosphere and I had a good time.
I didn't barfine the girl though.
So maybe it's time we move our asses to Patpong and leave rathole Nana and Coyote infested Soi Cowboy to the ignorant tourists?Isn't the King Castle bars known for ladyboys pre and post ops? I'the be careful and stick to Badabing, Electric Blue, Black Pagoda, unless that was your liking.
Member #4698
11-24-17, 13:17
Isn't the King Castle bars known for ladyboys pre and post ops? I'the be careful and stick to Badabing, Electric Blue, Black Pagoda, unless that was your liking.Kings Castle 1 & Kings Castle 2 are 100% real girl Go Go's. Nice Reportage Mogwai.
Kings Corner (on Patpong 1) is 50% real girl / 50% ladyboy as I reported previously. This is a weird hybrid business model IMHO, but the bar is very popular with a mostly NE Asian clientele. There is no risk of making a type 1 error here ie mistaking a ladyboy for a real girl. The girls and the ladyboys take turns dancing on the stage. Their behavioral differences are even more obvious than their physical characteristics. In any case it is a perfectly safe bar to have a drink and watch the show if one so chooses, but let me repeat, Kings Castle 1 & 2 are the best bars in Patpong at the moment.
Kings Corner 2 (in the alleyway between Patpong 1 & Patpong 2) is 100% ladyboy which is totally obvious the minute you take one look inside.
Badabing, Electric Blue, and the Strip are 100% real girl Go Go's too and definitely worth a look see although they are not on par with King Castle 1 & 2 in terms of the number and quality of their girls. The bottom line is Patpong is back!
At CH Bangkok, for 3 of us they wanted 1000 B with 3 free beers and I walked away. In hindsight I should have taken the offer, I am an Indian by the way and it has everything to do with it thanks to the generous nature of my country men who left a good impression.
And as a tourist it makes sense to spend rather than waste time at clubs with poor talent.
At CH Pattaya, they wanted 600 B for 3 of us with 3 beers included and we went in and had a great time.
I've never heard of that one before. Are you Indian, Arabic or Black? I know they have had problems with those type of guys. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
At CH Bangkok, for 3 of us they wanted 1000 B with 3 free beers and I walked away. In hindsight I should have taken the offer, I am an Indian by the way and it has everything to do with it thanks to the generous nature of my country men who left a good impression.
And as a tourist it makes sense to spend rather than waste time at clubs with poor talent.
At CH Pattaya, they wanted 600 B for 3 of us with 3 beers included and we went in and had a great time.We four Indians had been to Soi Cowboy during last week of this Sep. On two nights we were there at most of the soi cowboy gogos after session at Lords, Akanae ane and Oceana. We never felt any racial problem. In fact we had spend handsome money at at gogos in cowboy. Bought lot of lady drinks there for girls as well as waitress. We four had girls on our lap. We enjoyed very much.
Kings Castle 1 & Kings Castle 2 are 100% real girl Go Go's. Nice Reportage Mogwai.
Kings Corner (on Patpong 1) is 50% real girl / 50% ladyboy as I reported previously. This is a weird hybrid business model IMHO, but the bar is very popular with a mostly NE Asian clientele. There is no risk of making a type 1 error here ie mistaking a ladyboy for a real girl. The girls and the ladyboys take turns dancing on the stage. Their behavioral differences are even more obvious than their physical characteristics. In any case it is a perfectly safe bar to have a drink and watch the show if one so chooses, but let me repeat, Kings Castle 1 & 2 are the best bars in Patpong at the moment.
Kings Corner 2 (in the alleyway between Patpong 1 & Patpong 2) is 100% ladyboy which is totally obvious the minute you take one look inside.
Badabing, Electric Blue, and the Strip are 100% real girl Go Go's too and definitely worth a look see although they are not on par with King Castle 1 & 2 in terms of the number and quality of their girls. The bottom line is Patpong is back!Awesome, I'll check out Kings 1 next this weekend. I'm always fearful of post ops.
Hello community!
I will be in Bangkok starting from this Sunday for at least 3 months I have made a pretty 'stupid' challenge in November which was. No fap for the whole month (haven't seen any girl since October though so you get the point) until I arrive in BKK.
I am into very nice massage of the whole body, super relaxing, with girls that know what they are doing. Something like one hour. With last ten minutes or so being blowjob / handjob with happy ending.
I really want the best of the best. I guess there is a lot of competition though. Wouldn't mind have 2 girls doing the service, not just one.
Any place to recommend please? Will 2000 bahts be enough to get me something of super high quality?
Thanks a lot!
Banana Boi
11-24-17, 19:37
The bottom line is Patpong is back!Loving patpong the past 2 nights. I was only going to stay in patpong for 2 nights but will extend here. Met some very nice girls, including a viet girl in some hidden away karaoke bar. Girls are much friendlier than cowboy. The busier King's castle reminds me of the pattaya gogo bars. 60 girls Thursday night.
Banana Boi
11-24-17, 19:45
So maybe it's time we move our asses to Patpong and leave rathole Nana and Coyote infested Soi Cowboy to the ignorant tourists?Maybe too late. Was at black pagoda tonight. Saw a crew of Japanese come in and take away over 15 girls. Felt sorry for my girl since she was left behind while sitting with me.
UShobbyist
11-24-17, 23:08
Hello community!
I will be in Bangkok starting from this Sunday for at least 3 months I have made a pretty 'stupid' challenge in November which was. No fap for the whole month (haven't seen any girl since October though so you get the point) until I arrive in BKK.
I am into very nice massage of the whole body, super relaxing, with girls that know what they are doing. Something like one hour. With last ten minutes or so being blowjob / handjob with happy ending.
I really want the best of the best. I guess there is a lot of competition though. Wouldn't mind have 2 girls doing the service, not just one.
Any place to recommend please? Will 2000 bahts be enough to get me something of super high quality?
Thanks a lot!AFAIK the HJ by one girl will cost you 500 THB or the BBBJ by one girl will cost you 1000 THB. If you want two girls to do the same thing, the price will double. The massage itself is completely extra charge above that. I don't see how you can do everything with 2000 THb.
UShobbyist
11-24-17, 23:25
I was there at peak of high season once and they asked for 100 at the door. Any one else currently there being asked for a rip-off cover charge? Will be there in T-10 days.I was there quite a few times on Friday or Saturday nights. Nobody asked me to pay anything to get in. The bar was very crowded on Friday or Saturday nights. I always managed to get a ring side seat to see some naked girls to use pussy guns to shoot those balloons. On one Saturday night, the waitress did not ask me to buy drink for more than 20 minutes because there were so many customers in CH.
RobertWagner
11-25-17, 03:18
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Well, first time to Bangkok, and while I like the city, the people and culture, the Nana plaza area, for me, is a rat hole. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if fried rat is being served at some of the street vendor grills. Along with fried cockroaches. I wandered into the Nana Plaza proper a few times and couldn't believe the nasty, nasty atmosphere along with every two bit hustler trying to sell you sunglasses, beads, assorted bric-a-brac and other useless crap. Please. Anyway, wandered around the corner to buy a bottle of water to drink from the 7-11 for the equivalent of 50 cents rather than pay the equivalent of 7 dollars at one of the disgusting, crowded bars that play Rap music. Jesus, help me, effing Rap,. And then sat in dismay on a bench up the way from Hooters. While pondering this sad state of affairs, a nice Thai girl from up north, an older unit country girl, sat next to me and nervously eyed me. Finally, I broke the ice and asked her name, where she from, etc. After some chat, I offered to buy her something to eat further down the Suki at a 24 hour cafe / massage parlor. We passed the fat, chain smoking Russian girl on the way. Later, we went back to the Dynasty Inn (also disgusting) for a multi hour romp. She turned out to be the freak of the week, in a good way if one is into bent perversion, such as myself. She went home at daybreak with 2000 Baht and happy. No complaining.Instead of ignoring all the things you don't like, or staying away, you seem to focus on them. One wonders what you are looking for exactly. You could find high class places at a price if you wanted to.
Some others are looking for something as disgusting as possible. LOL
Beijing4987
11-25-17, 07:54
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Kings Castle 1 & Kings Castle 2 are 100% real girl Go Go's. Nice Reportage Mogwai.
Kings Corner (on Patpong 1) is 50% real girl / 50% ladyboy as I reported previously. This is a weird hybrid business model IMHO, but the bar is very popular with a mostly NE Asian clientele. There is no risk of making a type 1 error here ie mistaking a ladyboy for a real girl. The girls and the ladyboys take turns dancing on the stage. Their behavioral differences are even more obvious than their physical characteristics. In any case it is a perfectly safe bar to have a drink and watch the show if one so chooses, but let me repeat, Kings Castle 1 & 2 are the best bars in Patpong at the moment.
Kings Corner 2 (in the alleyway between Patpong 1 & Patpong 2) is 100% ladyboy which is totally obvious the minute you take one look inside.
Badabing, Electric Blue, and the Strip are 100% real girl Go Go's too and definitely worth a look see although they are not on par with King Castle 1 & 2 in terms of the number and quality of their girls. The bottom line is Patpong is back!Nice report. I haven't been to Patpong in about 10 years. I'll have to check it out. Those bars that have both real girls and lady boys are the ones I want to avoid.
So tedious. Scrolling past boring "Trip Reports" Can't the management set up the software to allow a one click IGNORE mechanism ? "I checked in to my 5 star hotel, got a beer. Did I tell you about my meal? I'm such an awesome stud. 25 but look younger. Made her come so many times. Take my advice. Blah blah.And when you ask them to share intel on sexy hot girls. They send you meh.
Day 1.
Soapy. Rainbow 4 (now Rainbow 5).
Time - 11 pm.
-90% of customers were asian.
-Quite a few smoking hot girls.
Got in around 10:45 pm & was sat down immediately.
Ordered a beer & started taking in the beauties in front of me.
Long story short. It was not how I expected.
For those of you who have not seen my posts (mostly in soapy section), a little bit about myself:
-I'm 26 why / o, asian american, decent looking, decent shape, well dressed & groomed.
In no way do I think my "situation" allows for any sense of entitlement. Advantage? Yes. But apparently not much.
I prefer to go long time. That's just what I like. I like taking my time & not having to rush as it reduces the experience.
As stated by many others for a LONG time, It seems that MOST good looking girls will refuse long time flat out, or quote some ridiculous $$.
Girl #1- sexy as fuck. Smokin hot body. Thin, no fat, gorgeous face. 3000 short time / short time room only OR hotel must be close by. NO LONG TIME at all. Wouldn't even quote.
Girl #2- need I say? Sexy as fuck. 3500 short time / short time room only or nearby hotel. 8000 long time only until 4-5 am.
Girl #3- still hot haha. 3500 short time / short time room or nearby hotel. 10000 long time only until 4-5 am.
Girl #4- petite & sexy. Same shit for short time, 9000 for long time only until 4-5 am.
As I had just landed in Bangkok that very afternoon, I was tired as fuck at this point. I decided to just short time Girl #4 at 3500.
My hotel was closer to Soi Cowboy (where I am headed tonight), so the girl insisted short-time room upstairs or clock started the moment we walked out.
Needless to say I didn't like the idea of losing 30 min just to get back to my room so we went to a short time room for 350.
Service? Rushed. Complained I fuck too hard? (I'm not huge. Just average. I thrust normally.).
She gave me the whole "oh I want to long time with you but more money from short time" speech. And I get it. It does make sense if the girl is attractive, nothing to hate on there.
She ended up giving me her LINE and told me she might be able to come by long-time after she got off work, but I had no intention of following up.
Will continue to read through the forum for advice. But my strategy for toinight.
-head to Soi Cowboy and short time my #1 choice a little later in the night.
-get her more comfortable with me during the session & suggest long time afterwards when it is already late.
Just perhaps it might make sense to her? If thinking "oh its already 2 am, if I go back I might not get more customers?
Not that its a MAJOR factor, but I am in a 5 star hotel very close to Soi Cowboy.
Given the "economy" of the P4 P scene here. It makes sense why girls don't like long time. But there has to be a way right?
SOS to any experienced mongers here for advice / tips to get an attractive girl to long time WITHOUT paying major $$ Please help.
Day 1.
Soapy. Rainbow 4 (now Rainbow 5).
Time - 11 pm.
-90% of customers were asian.
-Quite a few smoking hot girls.
Got in around 10:45 pm & was sat down immediately.
Ordered a beer & started taking in the beauties in front of me.
Long story short. It was not how I expected.
For those of you who have not seen my posts (mostly in soapy section), a little bit about myself:
-I'm 26 why / o, asian american, decent looking, decent shape, well dressed & groomed.
In no way do I think my "situation" allows for any sense of entitlement. Advantage? Yes. But apparently not much.
I prefer to go long time. That's just what I like. I like taking my time & not having to rush as it reduces the experience...Most of the hot girls from Go Go bars go to Scratch Dog or another club in groups to find their long time customers. These are mainly Asian only clubs. I used to party with all of them. You can meet them at the club, but your game better be good. These girls are pros.
Hey man,
Based on your several recent posts, it seems you and me are really similar in many aspects. That is, in regards to our ideals & reasonings, age & appearance (I'm 27 but look early 20's), American born Asian, decent looking with an athletic physique, pretty well groomed, and also well dressed when I need / want to be haha. I've been in Thailand for almost a week now. With 2 other younger Jap guys that have already left Thailand--we started in Pattaya for a few days and have been in Bangkok for a few days--so I'm going at it solo again.
This is my 2nd rodeo in Bangkok and it would be nice to have a wing / bro?/ dude around my age with relatable vices to monger around with for a few days. I'm also staying near Soi Cowboy so we should definitely meet up!
Thank you!
Day 1.
Soapy. Rainbow 4 (now Rainbow 5).
Time - 11 pm.
-90% of customers were asian.
-Quite a few smoking hot girls.
Got in around 10:45 pm & was sat down immediately.
Ordered a beer & started taking in the beauties in front of me.
Long story short. It was not how I expected.
For those of you who have not seen my posts (mostly in soapy section), a little bit about myself:
-I'm 26 why / o, asian american, decent looking, decent shape, well dressed & groomed.
In no way do I think my "situation" allows for any sense of entitlement. Advantage? Yes. But apparently not much.
I prefer to go long time. That's just what I like. I like taking my time & not having to rush as it reduces the experience..
Most of the hot girls from Go Go bars go to Scratch Dog or another club in groups to find their long time customers. These are mainly Asian only clubs. I used to party with all of them. You can meet them at the club, but your game better be good. These girls are pros.Oh that is unfortunate. Good to know though.
I honestly don't think energy in me to club till 4 am to find a girl for long time. Plus the added benefit of going to gogos is that you get to see the girls topless & confirm body requirements before you take them home.
I feel like you'd lose that advantage trying to pick up a random girl at a club no? Makes sense though. The girl messaged me on LINE around 2 am and asked if I still wanted to long time. And then said she could meet at 4 LOL! Then texted me again at 3;30 that she could not come anymore. Probably snagged her a long time customer?
Hey man,
Based on your several recent posts, it seems you and me are really similar in many aspects. That is, in regards to our ideals & reasonings, age & appearance (I'm 27 but look early 20's), American born Asian, decent looking with an athletic physique, pretty well groomed, and also well dressed when I need / want to be haha. I've been in Thailand for almost a week now. With 2 other younger Jap guys that have already left Thailand--we started in Pattaya for a few days and have been in Bangkok for a few days--so I'm going at it solo again.
This is my 2nd rodeo in Bangkok and it would be nice to have a wing / bro?/ dude around my age with relatable vices to monger around with for a few days. I'm also staying near Soi Cowboy so we should definitely meet up!
Thank you!I'm here until the 1st, near you. PM me with your contact info. I'm Asian and easy going. I don’t mind showing you around a bit.
Wolvenvacht
11-25-17, 19:53
Hello community!
I will be in Bangkok starting from this Sunday for at least 3 months I have made a pretty 'stupid' challenge in November which was. No fap for the whole month (haven't seen any girl since October though so you get the point) until I arrive in BKK.
I am into very nice massage of the whole body, super relaxing, with girls that know what they are doing. Something like one hour. With last ten minutes or so being blowjob / handjob with happy ending.
I really want the best of the best. I guess there is a lot of competition though. Wouldn't mind have 2 girls doing the service, not just one.
Any place to recommend please? Will 2000 bahts be enough to get me something of super high quality?
Thanks a lot!3 months in Bangkok? You lucky man!
Sukhumvit Soi 23 has a lot of massage places with prices going from 200 to 400 baht for a full body Thai or oily massage. That may take up to two hours, just discuss your requirements.
Most of the massage girls will give you a happy ending (HJ or BJ) for a fee. That may cost you another 500 to 1000 baht. Make sure the massage is in a separate room, not just a cubicle closed with a curtain only. Again, discuss this beforehand. If you take an oil massage, it is nice if you can shower afterwards.
So yes, 2000 baht will get you a massage with a happy ending. Will it be "super high quality"? Nobody can tell. I've had really good massages in Sukhumvit Soi 23 with lousy handjobs. I've had top notch blow jobs there and even good full sex once or twice with the massage being really below par. Massage ladies come and go. Shops open and close, disappear and re-appear almost at random.
You will be there 3 months, plenty of time to explore yourself. One tip: if your focus is one the massage, don't go for the skinny young massage girls. A more mature and a bit stronger built lady is more likely to give you a better massage.
Awesome, I'll check out Kings 1 next this weekend. I'm always fearful of post ops.So tonight I went to Kings Castle 1 in Patpong. Had about 45/50 girls dancing on stage for a Saturday night. There was only 2 or 3, I was interested in. This place was mainly Asian clients. Girls drinks about 220, I think. I called down one girl and she turned out to be 19. Quickly I saw that the place basically has a lot of young coyote girls who are there just for making money off drinks. I'm a good looking Asian guy and have played this game with bar girls for about 5 years now. From what she ordered, how fast she drank, and the timing of her "need to go to toilet" excuse. I could tell she was just a coyote hustling. Lucky it only cost me a drink for her and the waiter I called to ask her down. I also watched as 2 other Asian customers, older than me, get the same thing happened to them. But they paid for more than a few drinks each. They asked mamasan to pay bar their girls and was told the girl doesn't go with customers. My bill was only about 900 baht, so I can image their frustration when theirs was a lot higher. Don't get me wrong, there are girls in there that do go with customers. But none to my liking. My advice is if you see a girl you like ask the mamasan right off the bat can you barfine her. If not, you need not waste your time and money. Unless you just want their company.
Oh that is unfortunate. Good to know though.
I honestly don't think energy in me to club till 4 am to find a girl for long time. Plus the added benefit of going to gogos is that you get to see the girls topless & confirm body requirements before you take them home.
I feel like you'd lose that advantage trying to pick up a random girl at a club no? Makes sense though. The girl messaged me on LINE around 2 am and asked if I still wanted to long time. And then said she could meet at 4 LOL! Then texted me again at 3;30 that she could not come anymore. Probably snagged her a long time customer?Exactly. I know most of the girls at Rainbow 1, 2, and 5. The hotter ones, make around 10,000 a night with short time customers back to back to back. No way will they do long time, unless given that same amount and they like you in the looks department. I've gotten some for 6,000. But my game is pretty strong with these Go go girls. Baccara is the same way.
Banana Boi
11-26-17, 01:33
Most of the hot girls from Go Go bars go to Scratch Dog or another club in groups to find their long time customers. These are mainly Asian only clubs. I used to party with all of them. You can meet them at the club, but your game better be good. These girls are pros.You can find lots of thermae girls who struck out for the night in scratch dog. A decent disco.
Most of the hot girls from Go Go bars go to Scratch Dog or another club in groups to find their long time customers. These are mainly Asian only clubs. I used to party with all of them. You can meet them at the club, but your game better be good. These girls are pros.The entire idea of being in BKK is not having to worry about "game. " And "game" with GoGo gals? Nah. Even when I was your age, that's the last thing I wanted to hassle with.
Given the "economy" of the P4 P scene here. It makes sense why girls don't like long time.Blame the Asian (not Asian-American or Asian-European) punters. Honestly, the have changed the economics of P4 P throughout much of the region and along with that performance standards and attitudes have declined as prices have risen. Thailand, the PI, etc. Perhaps the least effected is Jakarta where it is mainly a scene for the locals and you don't have hordes of Asian men on holiday.
SilverSurfie
11-26-17, 04:01
Hey Guys,
I'm also staying in the Soi Cowboy area. I here until the 30th, then swinging by Pattaya for 5 days then back here in Bangkok for 5 more days. I'm 34, American born Asian. The last time I was in Bangkok I flew solo the entire trip, would be nice to hang out with some like minded individuals.
Hey man,
Based on your several recent posts, it seems you and me are really similar in many aspects. That is, in regards to our ideals & reasonings, age & appearance (I'm 27 but look early 20's), American born Asian, decent looking with an athletic physique, pretty well groomed, and also well dressed when I need / want to be haha. I've been in Thailand for almost a week now. With 2 other younger Jap guys that have already left Thailand--we started in Pattaya for a few days and have been in Bangkok for a few days--so I'm going at it solo again.
This is my 2nd rodeo in Bangkok and it would be nice to have a wing / bro?/ dude around my age with relatable vices to monger around with for a few days. I'm also staying near Soi Cowboy so we should definitely meet up!
Thank you!
Blame the Asian (not Asian-American or Asian-European) punters. Honestly, the have changed the economics of P4 P throughout much of the region and along with that performance standards and attitudes have declined as prices have risen. Thailand, the PI, etc. Perhaps the least effected is Jakarta where it is mainly a scene for the locals and you don't have hordes of Asian men on holiday.
Yes I'd agree to a certain extent. The pure asian punters have definitely fucked with the scene quite a bit. But I can understand the perspective. To have a good time & worry less about "nickel & diming".
But yes, sometimes they take it too far.
Exactly. I know most of the girls at Rainbow 1, 2, and 5. The hotter ones, make around 10,000 a night with short time customers back to back to back. No way will they do long time, unless given that same amount and they like you in the looks department. I've gotten some for 6,000. But my game is pretty strong with these Go go girls. Baccara is the same way.I think my "game" has 1 major disadvantage. I can't speak a lick of Thai LOL.
Yes I saw this hot girl at Bacarra yesterday and within the 2 hours I was there, she got barfined short time 3 times. LOL so I understand the economics of it.
I did long time this 22 y / o hottie from Bacarra last night around 1:30 am for 5000. Definitely a lot more diversity at Bacarra than Rainbow 5.
Hey man,
Based on your several recent posts, it seems you and me are really similar in many aspects. That is, in regards to our ideals & reasonings, age & appearance (I'm 27 but look early 20's), American born Asian, decent looking with an athletic physique, pretty well groomed, and also well dressed when I need / want to be haha. I've been in Thailand for almost a week now. With 2 other younger Jap guys that have already left Thailand--we started in Pattaya for a few days and have been in Bangkok for a few days--so I'm going at it solo again.
This is my 2nd rodeo in Bangkok and it would be nice to have a wing / bro?/ dude around my age with relatable vices to monger around with for a few days. I'm also staying near Soi Cowboy so we should definitely meet up!
Thank you!Hey. I'd be down to meet for a drink.
I can't pm you because you're "regular member" right?
If that's the case. Suggest a meet, time / location? I'm going to take a 1 afternoon break from soapies and resume tomorrow.
Tonight I will be back at Bacarra / Soi Cowboy to start.
SIDE NOTE.
Checked out Crazy House yesterday. That place is pretty shit? Lighting is whack, can't see shit. Looks like a place for guys who want just want to see genitalia for the sake of it & will fuck anything that moves.
Also the music is obnoxiously loud. Even more so than the obnoxiously loud music at other GOGOs.
The entire idea of being in BKK is not having to worry about "game. " And "game" with GoGo gals? Nah. Even when I was your age, that's the last thing I wanted to hassle with.Even approaching it the way we did in times past was a version of "game". After all, we held to certain rules of our "game" and the result was better service for less baht. Not sure what kind of "game" most of the young players are applying today when the results are paying more for less. I'm thinking the ladies involved are playing a much stronger "game" than the punters who think they've got it down pretty good. Just saying'.
Even approaching it the way we did in times past was a version of "game". After all, we held to certain rules of our "game" and the result was better service for less baht. Not sure what kind of "game" most of the young players are applying today when the results are paying more for less. I'm thinking the ladies involved are playing a much stronger "game" than the punters who think they've got it down pretty good. Just sayin'.I think its more about supply & demand / Money. LOTs of customers fighting over a shrinking pool of hot girls.
Pretty sure any girl that has any experience is probably not in it to fall in love with every traveller lookin to sleep with her.
So I don't think there is any solid routine /"game" per se. Unless you live in Bangkok & can give the illusion that you could be a repeat customer or sugardaddy?
Yes I'd agree to a certain extent. The pure asian punters have definitely fucked with the scene quite a bit. But I can understand the perspective. To have a good time & worry less about "nickel & diming".
But yes, sometimes they take it too far.
I think my "game" has 1 major disadvantage. I can't speak a lick of Thai LOL.
Yes I saw this hot girl at Bacarra yesterday and within the 2 hours I was there, she got barfined short time 3 times. LOL so I understand the economics of it.
I did long time this 22 y / o hottie from Bacarra last night around 1:30 am for 5000. Definitely a lot more diversity at Bacarra than Rainbow 5.This is going to rub alot of punters the wrong way. But when I mean "game" with Go Go bar girls, I mean that ALL of us are on a different playing field. Some have more money, are taller, younger, more handsome, intelligence etc. Etc. Or have things the girls prefer. Even racially. For me it's all about getting how many of the hot girls to do things they normally would't do. That's the game. If they won't go with you for 5,000 long and do it with another guy, you have to ask yourself, why? Or you can just go for Choice #2, #3, #4 and on and on. Rejection by a hooker sucks, but it happens. I've been lucky that I have a "It Factor," I don't have this issue 98% of the time. And these girls know me by reputation for years. They number in the countless hundreds, but keep trying to play this game with me. I've pissed so many girls off in the same bar, but they keep coming. I enjoy breaking egos. But in the end, I'd rather my memories be filled with hot, sexy, girls that I preferred, rather than a bunch of mediocre ones. I had a friend from the USA on his first trip, who was really excited to visit Baccara as his first club. He is wealthy. His ego was shattered when he called a girl down and she looked at him and told the waitress "no." He was like what's the problem? Waitress lied and said, "she has a customer. " What made it worse was when she came off the stage and tapped me on then shoulder. I knew her from the past. He was infatuated with her looks so I talked to her and he was willing to pay 10,000 baht for short time upstairs. But in USA prices $300 is really cheap for a lawyer from Vegas. The next 3 days, he bar fined and paid her 10,000 baht everyday for short time. I would hear the shit from him that she liked him and was going to visit him in Nevada. Blah blah blah. I just shook my head. He has a law degree. If he doesn't know better then. I just told him 3 things. First, she wouldn't even give him a second thought if it wasn't for my intervention. Second, ST rate is 3000. And last, watch me shake my head every time she comes and sits with us. Honestly, I can break either person's hustle. It's just entertainment and I can only guide. The hotter ones always have game. Their job is to take ALL of our money. So what is the game that punters can play back? I have plenty and won them all! I don't want to sound like an ass, but many guys have sat with me to help them get a Go Go bar girl that they desperately wanted. No BS, Ive even added a couple of screenshots from my buds. I'm the blue text. Like I said, I'm here to help. Cheers!
Best line yet "She said you fucked almost all of the girls and the girls they get angry when you barfine someone else. And that some of them hate you" - hahaha, get hated on by strippers.
Most of the hot girls from Go Go bars go to Scratch Dog or another club in groups to find their long time customers. These are mainly Asian only clubs. I used to party with all of them. You can meet them at the club, but your game better be good. These girls are pros.I think you got ripped off. I have never paid anyone 9000 bhat for long time. Thats more than we pay in Australia to fat white hos. For girls who tell me this I tell them they are dreaming and then go and get free lancers for 2000 bht LT and some of those girls are hot and you don't have to pay stupid bar fines. I think the gogo is fun don't get me wrong but these days after 20 yrs mongering Bangkok, I just use them as a way to warm up and then go and get freelancers. Recently I've been fucking the hottest African women (not the old ones and ones who harass you) but the young ones from Uganda and Kenya. I've had some 9/10's with them no attitude and fun in bed. Gogo girls can be a pain in the ass.
Beijing4987
11-26-17, 07:42
The working girls are laughing all the way to the bank with your money. If you are rich they will act in your blockbuster movie. You only have a bit part. Oldest profession? If you have it, spend it. No problem. Don't believe you are winning in the game.
I did long time this 22 y / o hottie from Bacarra last night around 1:30 am for 5000. Definitely a lot more diversity at Bacarra than Rainbow 5.Went to Snow White yesterday. Took Emmy. 28, no kid, white skin, almost pink nipples, very nice body, A+, and great skill set. Popped twice in 60 min, first time in the keister, second time CIM. Damage 1900 Baht all in. So when I see 5 k Baht, plus BF and drinks, I just have to shake my head really. Been in Baccara, CW, and the lot recently. To my eyes have never seen a gal worth almost 200 USD.
I think its more about supply & demand / Money. LOTs of customers fighting over a shrinking pool of hot girls.
Pretty sure any girl that has any experience is probably not in it to fall in love with every traveller lookin to sleep with her.
So I don't think there is any solid routine /"game" per se. Unless you live in Bangkok & can give the illusion that you could be a repeat customer or sugardaddy?Yes, I am quick to point out that I live here in Bkk so in all probability that influences the outcome for me vs the 2 week traveler. Although not necessarily all on the upside. I am sure there are times when a girl gives the temporary visitor all she has to give on the assumption that soon enough she will not be required to do anything but might have impressed him so much he will continue transferring funds to his found treasure for months afterward.
No chance of that happening with me. If she wants to remain on the payroll, she knows that means she'll need to keep up the good work on a regular basis and there is no paid vacation in the deal. So it can go both ways.
I am 64. Last week I had an all nighter with a 26 year old And two nights and a day with a 20 year old. They are both head turners in public, look even better naked, zero tattoos, zero piercings, not a hair follicle on their body, slim and firm all over. And sweet girls personally. Neither works in a bar and both have regular jobs. I gave the 27 year old 2000 to help her with rent and the 20 year old 500 baht because she sometimes takes a taxi to my room.
Meanwhile, I don't accept anything less than BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM+S as a real GFE and these girls provide me with all the real GFE I want. There is really no way for me to know how much of those results is due to "game" and how much to merely living here.
Yes, I am quick to point out that I live here in Bkk so in all probability that influences the outcome for me vs the 2 week traveler. I from Vegas the way it works here is. Peak times (2-3 days usually) not a whisper. Slow times "Hi baby" LOL you just roll with it.
I've gotten some for 6,000. But my game is pretty strong with these Go go girls.I have to admit, this is the first time I've heard someone brag about having "game" with Thailand girls while admitting to paying $200 USD for the girl to have sex for one night.
Have prices drastically changed in the past year or so? I haven't taken a Rainbow chick long time in a couple of years, but the most I've ever paid for one long time is 4000 baht. 5 years ago, I had taken home basically every good looking girl in that bar and I don't consider myself to have good game by any means.
Haha Exactly what I was thinking.
No offense, but if you really need game and act like a Pick Up Artist in Thailand gogobars, then you got to be really ugly, LOL.
I have to admit, this is the first time I've heard someone brag about having "game" with Thailand girls while admitting to paying $200 USD for the girl to have sex for one night.
Have prices drastically changed in the past year or so? I haven't taken a Rainbow chick long time in a couple of years, but the most I've ever paid for one long time is 4000 baht. 5 years ago, I had taken home basically every good looking girl in that bar and I don't consider myself to have good game by any means.
Hey. I'd be down to meet for a drink.
I can't pm you because you're "regular member" right?
If that's the case. Suggest a meet, time / location? I'm going to take a 1 afternoon break from soapies and resume tomorrow.
Tonight I will be back at Bacarra / Soi Cowboy to start.
SIDE NOTE.
Checked out Crazy House yesterday. That place is pretty shit? Lighting is whack, can't see shit. Looks like a place for guys who want just want to see genitalia for the sake of it & will fuck anything that moves.
Also the music is obnoxiously loud. Even more so than the obnoxiously loud music at other GOGOs.I'll be visiting Bangkok for the first time in 2 weeks and would love to meet with some fellow mongers / wingmen if anyone is up to it.
RahulMangla2009
11-26-17, 21:57
Hi all,
Arriving in Bangkok after good 5 years. So, very excited.
Last time I visited Climax and Mixx for picking up freelancers who were insanely hot.
Wanted to know what are the places you recommend, especially nightclubs where I can find top notch freelancers? Price is not a concern for me.
Also, which escort agencies provide the top models in Bangkok? Again, am not worried about the pricing, as am looking for best of the best girls in the city.
Thanks much.
I'll be visiting Bangkok for the first time in 2 weeks and would love to meet with some fellow mongers / wingmen if anyone is up to it.I'd catch up with you guys if I can find a way to contact you.
I have to admit, this is the first time I've heard someone brag about having "game" with Thailand girls while admitting to paying $200 USD for the girl to have sex for one night.
Have prices drastically changed in the past year or so? I haven't taken a Rainbow chick long time in a couple of years, but the most I've ever paid for one long time is 4000 baht. 5 years ago, I had taken home basically every good looking girl in that bar and I don't consider myself to have good game by any means.Rainbow 1, 3 are more any client friendly, except Indian. Barifing a girl shouldn't be a problem.
Rainbow 2 is Asian preferred. The hotter girls are very picky. Long time is 8-10,000.
Rainbow 5 is mixed client friendly. Some Asian only girls and some don't care. But also has picky girls. Long time is 10,000 for the hot hot ones.
So here are the rebuttals I will hear from some of the posters on here who don't understand what "game" is played. That girl is not hot or attractive. Fair, but why don't you try going into a bar like Bacarra or Rainbow 2, asking the waitresses who is considered the most beautiful girl amongst the girls working. Now see if that girl even comes sit down for a drink with you. See if you can even bar fine her, then see if you can get GFE from her. All at a rate of 3,000 to your hotel of choice. I bet most will lose at the game. I quit listening to a lot of these posters of ISG after I noticed some of the pics they post about their "gems. " Ugly as fuck! Also if you think Crazy House is a nice place to find sexy girls, please get your eyes and head examined. Pussy is easy to find if your game is paying for sex. The real game is to get what you want from the hottest girls in the entire city. Break your egos so perhaps we can help each other. How many on here can even got hot girls from Thaniya? I'm not even Japanese and I've done that. Geez let go of your egos on here so we can trade intel.
Rainbow 2 Long time is 8-10,000.
Rainbow 5 Long time is 10,000 for the hot hot ones.
Geez let go of your egos on here so we can trade intel.No ego here. Sorry if it came across that way. I did mention that I consider myself not to have good game. I'm not sure how that could be misconstrued as having an ego, but my apologies. I think any guy on this forum can bar fine any girl I've ever been with for the same price as I bar fined them, or even less. I was just stating that I've never paid any Rainbow girl more than 4000 baht long time. I've probably bar fined about 100 different Rainbow chicks over the years. Admittedly, I have only ever taken 2 long time, since long time is not my thing. When I am in Bangkok, I work in the morning so I do not want them staying long time. Those two I did take were exceptionally beautiful (in my eyes), so I went ahead and kept them long time. I normally give 2500 to 3000 short time. However, I am curious to see these stunners who are currently asking for 10,000 baht but you are pulling for 6,000 baht. I really had no idea gogo girls were asking for that kind of money these days. Looking forward to the photos.
Rainbow 1, 3 are more any client friendly, except Indian. Barifing a girl shouldn't be a problem.
Rainbow 2 is Asian preferred. The hotter girls are very picky. Long time is 8-10,000.
Rainbow 5 is mixed client friendly. Some Asian only girls and some don't care. But also has picky girls. Long time is 10,000 for the hot hot ones.
So here are the rebuttals I will hear from some of the posters on here who don't understand what "game" is played. That girl is not hot or attractive. Fair, but why don't you try going into a bar like Bacarra or Rainbow 2, asking the waitresses who is considered the most beautiful girl amongst the girls working. Now see if that girl even comes sit down for a drink with you. See if you can even bar fine her, then see if you can get GFE from her. All at a rate of 3,000 to your hotel of choice. I bet most will lose at the game. I quit listening to a lot of these posters of ISG after I noticed some of the pics they post about their "gems. " Ugly as fuck! Also if you think Crazy House is a nice place to find sexy girls, please get your eyes and head examined. Pussy is easy to find if your game is paying for sex. The real game is to get what you want from the hottest girls in the entire city. Break your egos so perhaps we can help each other. How many on here can even got hot girls from Thaniya? I'm not even Japanese and I've done that. Geez let go of your egos on here so we can trade intel.Personally I don't see uber-attractive gals in any of the GoGos these days. Poor surgeries abound. Where do I see lookers? Malls and legit nightspot places. So many hot Chinese tourist gals that are just killing Thai gals when it comes to looks and sex appeal. Ass cheeks hanging out of shorts and that nasty gleam in their eyes. Hey, if gals of that quality were available, I would not mind paying the prices that these mediocre GoGo chicks are charging.
Rainbow 1, 3 are more any client friendly, except Indian. Barifing a girl shouldn't be a problem.
Rainbow 2 is Asian preferred. The hotter girls are very picky. Long time is 8-10,000.
Rainbow 5 is mixed client friendly. Some Asian only girls and some don't care. But also has picky girls. Long time is 10,000 for the hot hot ones.
So here are the rebuttals I will hear from some of the posters on here who don't understand what "game" is played. That girl is not hot or attractive. Fair, but why don't you try going into a bar like Bacarra or Rainbow 2, asking the waitresses who is considered the most beautiful girl amongst the girls working. Now see if that girl even comes sit down for a drink with you. See if you can even bar fine her, then see if you can get GFE from her. All at a rate of 3,000 to your hotel of choice. I bet most will lose at the game. I quit listening to a lot of these posters of ISG after I noticed some of the pics they post about their "gems. " Ugly as fuck! Also if you think Crazy House is a nice place to find sexy girls, please get your eyes and head examined. Pussy is easy to find if your game is paying for sex. The real game is to get what you want from the hottest girls in the entire city. Break your egos so perhaps we can help each other. How many on here can even got hot girls from Thaniya? I'm not even Japanese and I've done that. Geez let go of your egos on here so we can trade intel.I have been to the clubs you mentioned and did not see "the hottest girls in the entire city." The best looking girls in any go-go bar in Thailand can easily be bested on looks by maybe the 5th best looking non go-go bar girl who walked through the door of Central Embassy last Saturday between 12 Noon and 12:30 PM. Or the third best looking non go-go bar girl riding any BTS car within a mid-day hour. Perhaps they all had already been barfined by 10,000 baht guys without game or for 6000 baht by guys with very strong game. Either way, the bottom line is P4P girls are available for a price and don't really require game. If I offered the best looking girl in the place 20,000 baht and she walked away from you and your 10,000 baht lawyer friend to go with me would that indicate I have more game than anyone else at the moment? Not until somebody offers her 25,000 baht I'm guessing.
But I am all for trading intel. Do those top hookers in the go-go bars you frequent always agree to BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow for that 6,000 baht? Or do only the 10,000 baht guys get that? Does the price have to be higher than 10,000 baht to get that? If so, how much? Personally, when I am looking for sexual satisfaction from the kind of direct hooker you encounter in go-go bars, I would not be interested in paying as much as 100 (one hundred) baht for one who did not provide me with BBFS or at least BBBJ+CIM. Not even if she had just won Miss Teen Thailand 2017. But I would also have no problem paying serious Thai money, like you pay, to have the kind of real sex that I described with a top beauty in the business, albeit by markedly reduced go-go bar girl standards of beauty.
No ego here. Sorry if it came across that way. I did mention that I consider myself not to have good game. I'm not sure how that could be misconstrued as having an ego, but my apologies. I think any guy on this forum can bar fine any girl I've ever been with for the same price as I bar fined them, or even less. I was just stating that I've never paid any Rainbow girl more than 4000 baht long time. I've probably bar fined about 100 different Rainbow chicks over the years. Admittedly, I have only ever taken 2 long time, since long time is not my thing. When I am in Bangkok, I work in the morning so I do not want them staying long time. Those two I did take were exceptionally beautiful (in my eyes), so I went ahead and kept them long time. I normally give 2500 to 3000 short time. However, I am curious to see these stunners who are currently asking for 10,000 baht but you are pulling for 6,000 baht. I really had no idea gogo girls were asking for that kind of money these days. Looking forward to the photos.The girls quoting 10 k & can get away with it are really the 99th percentile girls. & there really are not that many.
I definitely agree with Monkey in that you need "game". Not the stereotypical "game" you would employ to pick up normal girls but different type of "game" for working girls.
To reiterate the obvious, GOGO girls are still girls. Guys that are young, handsome, fit, charming & wealthy will always have an advantage over old, ugly, fat, boring & stingy.
The girl I pulled for 5 k long-time from Bacarra 2 night ago isn't what I'd consider 99th percentile, but close enough. 98%?
For me, her only downside was her fake tits. Otherwise, shes 1.72m?, slim, no body fat, tight, fair-skinned & good in the sack.
She told me she typically quotes 8-9 k LT if the guy is average looking. (usually earlier in the evening).
I'll be visiting Bangkok for the first time in 2 weeks and would love to meet with some fellow mongers / wingmen if anyone is up to it.MPL,
I've been to crazy horse a least 30 times over many years. Sometimes its very annoying and I can't deal with the drink stuff and girls. Other times its kind of a wow experience to see 20 naked chicks on stage. The music never bothers me. I don't hear the music. I'm looking at chicks. Also you should try upstairs when its busy downstairs it can get a bit crazy. Girls naked lap dancing you and putting your fingers in their pussies. I once was having a drink with one girl upstairs at CH and she said she was horny. I laughed and said sure. She then put my fingers into her dripping pussy. I think I barfined her.
The girls quoting 10 k & can get away with it are really the 99th percentile girls. & there really are not that many.
The girl I pulled for 5 k long-time from Bacarra 2 night ago isn't what I'd consider 99th percentile, but close enough. 98%?
She told me she typically quotes 8-9 k LT if the guy is average looking. (usually earlier in the evening).99th percentile? So, 1 or 2 girls in the entire bar fit the criteria? I'm quite curious to see a couple of photos of these superstars.
99th percentile? So, 1 or 2 girls in the entire bar fit the criteria? I'm quite curious to see a couple of photos of these superstars.1 or 2 girls if there are a couple of hundred girls in the bar. I'd like to see some photos as well, I've been pretty disappointed with the quality of the girls over the past couple of years. Maybe I'm getting fussier with old age.
I have been to the clubs you mentioned and did not see "the hottest girls in the entire city." The best looking girls in any go-go bar in Thailand can easily be bested on looks by maybe the 5th best looking non go-go bar girl who walked through the door of Central Embassy last Saturday between 12 Noon and 12:30 PM. Agree, I saw some absolute stunners in Emporium and around that area a few weeks ago, but they were not P4 P girls.
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