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I can't remember to have been mongering on a Sunday but I will remember that last Sunday was the worst day I have encountered from all my BKK mongering days in terms of quality. Went to Nana at around 8. 20 pm and started first with Billboard and went further to Buterflies, Twister and Bangkok Bunnies which was by far the worst place of all. Absolutely no woman that caught my eye. All places were rather boring. The same goes for the WG's who looked rather uninterested. I have been reading that Fridays and Saturdays are the days when it's the most busiest with more WG's around which is understandable. Thermae was also so-so even though I never went to Thermae between 8 and 9 pm. Ended up with Dollhouse which has some lookers but I wasn't in the mood anymore. Can I conclude that Sunday is the worst day to go to gogo's or was it just bad luck?I was out last Sunday night, too, walking along Sukhumvit Soi 4/Nana Plaza area with a new regular, non P4P girlfriend who had just come to visit me from Korat. She had never seen that area before and was flabbergasted that virtually every girl within sight, except for the servers at Hooters, were working girls prepared to have sex with a stranger for money at anytime. "Thai girls?!" Yeah, honey, Thai girls.
But I swear I remarked to a friend of mine just yesterday that last Sunday night had to have had the worst looking freelancers and outdoor beer bar girls up and down Soi 4 and nearby Sukhumvit of any night I have ever experienced. LOL. It was actually spoiling my fun in indicating that this group of Thai girls over here, that group of Thai girls, here, there and everywhere were all available for sex with men, every day of every week, for money since almost none of them looked like they would get a taker on any night of the week. We didn't go into a go-go bar, so I don't have an opinion on how those venues were faring.
But last night was awesome. Tons of hotties. In fact, any night after last Sunday night was better.
The only thing I can think of is this has been a "Summer Break" from school in Thailand. Many of the working girls who can afford it, meaning those who at least get SOME customers sometime, might have taken time off from their daily work schedule to be with their kids, travel to or with them on holiday and so on. And therefore only the others were left working last Sunday.
During my last 4 night stay in BKK I must say that I had the best time in Dollhouse this time instead of Billboard or CH. DH has a pretty good vibe and girls seem to have fun. Music was OK even though Billboard still is my number 1 in terms of music. Some decent lookers in DH with #88 that drew the most of my attention. Now I must say that I'm usually a sucker for petite women with died hair, however.
#88 aka Zoda looks more like the artist Pink. Platinum blonde short hair, lots of tattoos and piercings and colored contact lenses. Not the tiniest and reasonable body. Don't think that she has undergo any plastic surgery. She dances well, like her attitude and interaction while she was on stage. He English was very reasonable even though I had difficulties to understand her due to the fact that a sat near the speaker. I was interested to take her to my room with me for LT but she mentioned that she can only do ST as she lives with her mother. She mentioned that it would be possible to go LT from 10 am until 1 am. Damage would be 5000 Bath LT which seems very cheap to me. Perhaps she or I misunderstood? As I was only interested to spend the whole night and morning with her I let it pass. Might give her a try if she's still around during my next BKK visit.
But last night was awesome. Tons of hotties. In fact, any night after last Sunday night was better.I left BKK last Monday. Thanks for sharing. I feel much better now! LOL.
I left BKK last Monday. Thanks for sharing. I feel much better now! LOL.LOL. It actually crossed my mind on Sunday that if this was the only night a punter ever strolled through the Sukhumvit/Soi 4/Nana Plaza area, he would never book another flight to Bangkok again.
LOL. It actually crossed my mind on Sunday that if this was the only night a punter ever strolled through the Sukhumvit/Soi 4/Nana Plaza area, he would never book another flight to Bangkok again.Funny that you mention this as it was exactly that what I was thinking of while I was sitting in Bangkok Bunnies! LOL.
But then again, what are the alternatives for a 3 to 4 night stay in SE Asia. Having this said though, while I was going to the airport I was already thinking when I will be coming back again to BKK. Soapies, Oilies, Gogo's, FL'ers, Bar girls, BJ bars, dating site and app WG's. It's all there within a radius of perhaps 2 - 3 kilometers. And not to mention the good food! As I usually stay near Soi Cowboy I end up in CH when I'm still alone and eat in "Love Scene" near CH. Food is good though when you want to eat after 1 am. If any punters know some other local places in the area that are open after 1 am then I'm more than happy to hear.
...Can I conclude that Sunday is the worst day to go to gogo's or was it just bad luck?For me, Sunday nights at go-go's have historically been the poorest in terms of quality, quantity and variety. A lot of regular patrons are expats who actually have work to do starting Monday morning. LOL Too, the visiting business guys from all over the planet need to be in an office of someplace on Monday morning. By Sunday night, they may have already gone through their entertainment allowance for the week or just need to rest up before going back to work. The girls know this. Accordingly, they schedule one of their "off days" for Sunday. The "rich" ones may pay their own barfine and not show up, having hit the lottery Friday and Saturday. The obvious "plus" is that, with fewer customers, the girls might be more willing to negotiate. On a nightly basis, pussy is highly perishable, good for about 6 hours if not purchased (rented).
Uncle Volodya
05-12-18, 08:56
Thanks for that encouragement. Actually, I had done my fair share of mongering across the globe, from FKK Germany to Private Haus in Amsterdam to Dominican Republic to Indonesia to Singapore and of course now Thailand. To me the journey is more important than the destination, and that is why I focus on the experience and interactions with the ladies. Even in FKK where the turnover is high, I only go for those ladies that I truly enjoy, not just on the sex but on the way how they make me feel. That is why I am so disappointed this time with the experience with the Thai girls. Actually, I have been having a good time with this Bangkok trip, albeit with the Uzbek girl that I met the first night and we hit off right then. It is just disappointing that it is not with a Thai girl instead.
Anyway, I have been hitting different clubs two nights in a row now with her, and probably another one again tonight before my trip back home. Nope it is not a freebie if you happen to ask. I paid her for LT price the first night and has continued to do so each night based on that rate. We have not discussed money nor price other than the first time I met her. It is the gentlemen agreement that I compensate for her time, and she is a working girl after all. I even prefer to leave money on the table and remind the girl to not forget pick them up before leaving the room. As the saying goes, I may not remember what the girls and I had done, but I can always remember how the girls had made me feel.I'm glad you are having a fun time with your Uzbek-Korean girl. That is quite an intriguing mix and she sounds like a lot of fun to boot.
Pleas do post info on the Discos / Nighclubs you are going to. There is very limited info about these venues on the forum, besides the usual suspects: Levels, Insanity, Mixx, etc.
Stay horny and positive my friend.
Uncle-V.
Member #4733
05-12-18, 09:16
The only thing I can think of is this has been a "Summer Break" from school in Thailand. Many of the working girls who can afford it, meaning those who at least get SOME customers sometime, might have taken time off from their daily work schedule to be with their kids, travel to or with them on holiday and so on. And therefore only the others were left working last Sunday.That is quite insightful. Now I have a clue why CH and Baccara were dead on April 13. Thanks.
I'm glad you are having a fun time with your Uzbek-Korean girl. That is quite an intriguing mix and she sounds like a lot of fun to boot.
A bit unlikely too. I take it with a grain of salt. I met a girl "half Romanian half Thai". Was total invention on her part. Her excuse for being very short. Not a drop of Thai blood there, naturally she did not understand the most basic Thai, completely Ziguener.
Funny that you mention this as it was exactly that what I was thinking of while I was sitting in Bangkok Bunnies! LOL.
Come now, BBunnies has about 3 slim hotties (hard to get to). LOL Mostly over weight, milfy, or siliconised types. However remember that we don't all have the same tastes, like you and me (clearly a bit similar). I also think the DH line up is pretty good, in fact you may have read my report on it a while back. BB is not for me, but I can see it can appeal to others with different taste. Girls look a bit raunchier than normal.
I notice Indian guys often like a lot more meat on girls than I do (puffy to chubby girls LOL). Japanese taste confuses me a lot. Some like similar girls to me (in CH in former times), some like highly plastic dolls like in Baccarra, and some like ladyboys. Maybe they take many types except I don't see them taking the chubby to fat girls at all.
The extremely raunchy types in CH (often ugly girls compensating) seem to have mostly western customers (I maybe wrong on this - not concentrating on these types or paying too much attention).
I have to agree that line ups can seem bad one night and good another. A single visit does not make us know the line up, very well at all. Also bars like Doll House have changed drastically more than once since the owner went off his high rise balcony.
The extremely raunchy types in CH (often ugly girls compensating).And you have just stated the exact problem with Bangkok. The lookers are not extremely raunchy. Why not? Because the punters don't demand it and for the most part it turns the Asian customers off. They'd rather have demure gals. I really don't get it, but I am sure they don't get the Western punter either.
Ggekko2009
05-12-18, 14:23
I'm glad you are having a fun time with your Uzbek-Korean girl. That is quite an intriguing mix and she sounds like a lot of fun to boot.
Pleas do post info on the Discos / Nighclubs you are going to. There is very limited info about these venues on the forum, besides the usual suspects: Levels, Insanity, Mixx, etc.
Stay horny and positive my friend.
Uncle-V.The other club that we went to besides the one above is Club XS in Pullman Hotel by Terminal 21. It has a smaller setup located on the top floor of the building. Last night, we have the intention of going to Onyx. Unfortunately we ended up staying at Insanity since the Uzbek girl and her friend did not show up until almost 12:30 AM and that place closes at 2 AM. That did not leave plenty of time.
Anyway, being my last party night in Bangkok, I ordered a bottle of Chirac Vodka to celebrate. I can tell you that it is one of the smoothest vodka that I have ever tasted, two thumbs up. The two girls were close and I can tell that they take care of each other. I guess they kind of have to, being foreign working girls working in a foreign land. As I partied with my girl, I also wanted to provide distance with her friends so that it did not create the impression that I had booked both of them. Her friend actually looked very sexy, long black silky hair, and that typical Central Asian look.
It was interesting to see how guys would do their routine approach. I should know, LOL, since this kind of mirrors my same routine back then two nights ago. They would stand next to our table closer to her, gyrate to the music with her, and a few minutes in would try to initiate a conversation to negotiate pricing. There would be a few that would appear stiff and uneasy, and I would help speed up the process by offering a shot of vodka from my bottle. Anyway, she did not end up with anyone that night for a few primary reasons that I thought it is interesting to share.
There was one time when an Indian guy would just grab her hand and pulled her away. I guess it was to find a quieter place to talk. When she came back, she told me that she rejected him outright since he demanded to fuck her ass for 2000 baht. Then she joked that she should have paid that to up his ass with her fist instead. Later on, a German guy approached her and the negotiation fell through. She mentioned to me later on that he is those typical German who is cheap when it comes to paying girls. It is alway interesting to hear and observe things from the other side.
Anyway, I had the best night last night. The place was packed with people, the drink was great, and my girl took great care of me. She almost felt like my girlfriend all this while, haha. Anyway, we were both wasted that night and along the way she suggested if I would like to have threesome with her friend. I know that I cannot handle it with all the alcohol and such, but I felt bad enough that her friend did not have any taker that I gave her a tip. Initially she did not want my money, however, I insisted and she finally took it.
The three of us stayed until the club was closed. With lights turned on, we would stumble our way out of the club. I have never felt more drunk but yet cognizant of my surrounding at the same time. Took a taxi and headed to the Bamboo restaurant where it served pretty good Russian food. After supper, my girl and I headed to our hotel room while her friend went back to her apartment. I thought that I would not have the energy to have sex with my girl, but apparently both of us did. She kept saying I really like you multiple times while we were having sex. That really makes my day.
Ggekko2009
05-12-18, 16:30
A bit unlikely too. I take it with a grain of salt. I met a girl "half Romanian half Thai". Was total invention on her part. Her excuse for being very short. Not a drop of Thai blood there, naturally she did not understand the most basic Thai, completely Ziguener.Her look is definitely geared more towards Korean than Uzbek, and she looks distinctly different in the nose and jawline area compared to her Uzbek friend. Also, she never advertised herself as half Korean. It was part of my conversation with her when talking about her family that she mentioned her South Korean father had left her Uzbek mother when she was five, and had not met and talked to her biological father much. Her mother had since remarried to a local and she has two half siblings in her family.
XRatedBangkok
05-13-18, 06:03
I was crawling along Petchaburi road and I checked the soapies there, Hawaii, Angelina, Evita. It seems Riviera is closed down, sealed door and legal announcement displayed. I have seen this kind before, usually they do no re-open.
http://thaidb.info/riviera
I was crawling along Petchaburi road and I checked the soapies there, Hawaii, Angelina, Evita. It seems Riviera is closed down, sealed door and legal announcement displayed. I have seen this kind before, usually they do no re-open.
http://thaidb.info/rivieraSee also topic in Bangkok thread. Confirmed closed for illegal usage of Artesian water.
I was crawling along Petchaburi road and I checked the soapies there, Hawaii, Angelina, Evita. It seems Riviera is closed down, sealed door and legal announcement displayed. I have seen this kind before, usually they do no re-open.
http://thaidb.info/rivieraWhat was the talent like in the other places you tried? All oldies? You'll get more of a response if you post this in the proper thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!
ThePenetrator
05-13-18, 22:36
Guys,
I am going Bangkok in Sept. For 8 nights, Might spend two days in Pattaya. Where is the best place to stay out of Nana, suk and Soi cowboy?
My form of mongering is street girls and club freelancers. I have no interest in gogo bars or beer bars. Might try a blowjob bar tho.
I am going for numbers. As long as she is short, clean and skinny with a reasonable face I won't be to fussed.
Can you guys advise on the best streets and clubs to find girls.
Guys,
I am going Bangkok in Sept. For 8 nights, Might spend two days in Pattaya. Where is the best place to stay out of Nana, suk and Soi cowboy?
My form of mongering is street girls and club freelancers. I have no interest in gogo bars or beer bars. Might try a blowjob bar tho.
I am going for numbers. As long as she is short, clean and skinny with a reasonable face I won't be to fussed.
Can you guys advise on the best streets and clubs to find girls.It's really easy. Just spend some time and read a few pages. You will find answers to your questions above. You are expected to invest some of your time in finding answers to your questions.
There has apparently been some controversy over this, but it is my opinion that the new canopy covering the otherwise open air central courtyard area of Nana Plaza keeps that area cooler rather than warmer in the evening as some are saying. This was more evident to me this past weekend when the evenings were a bit warmer than most since the canopy was put in place.
My initial impression when a friend and I sat at a table in Nana Beer Garden, the bar on the ground level/center courtyard of the Plaza at about 7 PM, was that it was too warm to sit there for very long. But I think that was due to the lack of enough well placed fans in their new set up. We didn't stay and moved on to somewhere else to eat and drink while watching the parade. However, with little or no perceptive reduction in the outside temperature at 9 PM, we returned to the Plaza and noticed it felt noticeably cooler in that open center area by then.
My later impression was that by then all of the go-go bars on all three levels of the Plaza had been for the previous couple of hours firing up their air conditioners with their doors wide open except for a split curtain here and there and that the canopy was effectively trapping that cool air inside the Plaza and better directing it toward the ground level even more so than cooler air is inclined to fall anyway. It hadn't happened that way by 7 PM-7:30 PM. But it seemed to be working out that way by 9 PM even though that has been a time in the Bangkok evening when I will often feel some kind of second wind wave of heat stirring up from somewhere. But at that point the canopy-covered courtyard of Nana Plaza was feeling more comfortably cooler than just a few steps outside of the Plaza.
Has anyone else noticed a difference one way or the other?
Don't want to get into too many details but I always worry. First time in Thailand and I asked a girl if she was clean and she said she had no sti and showed me a picture of a form that had the term "anti HIV" checked off and nothing else checked. What does that mean?
A friend and I were strolling through Thaniya Road in Silom last night about 9:30 PM and an Asian woman tout approached us in front of one of the first Karaoke bars with many lovely, young Thai girls sitting outside on the right as you walk away from the BTS. A group of about 8 Japanese guys had just been greeted and escorted into the place ahead of us. We had no intention of going in or taking any girl for the night but the tout was very keen on both of us going inside to enjoy what they had to offer. She told us it wasn't Japanese only, that men like us were more than welcome, that the "barfine" to take a girl of our choice away for 2 hours or so was 1,200 baht, that the girl expected an additional 3,000 baht for herself, that a ST room in the area would be extra (she wrote out the numbers on a small paper tablet and showed it to us) and that it would indeed be a sex happy ending of the blowjob and/or boom-boom kind. Covered or uncovered anything was not mentioned and I didn't ask this lady.
She and I engaged in a bit of small talk in Thai at one point but I don't believe my knowing any Thai language beyond "Sawatdee Khrup" (hello) mattered and more than that came after she told us the particulars anyway. She was very adamant about us please going inside to take a look and she smiled broadly when I told her we might come back in a night or two to check it out. My friend stood next to me in silence during the approximately 2 minute long exchange.
By "men like us" being more than welcome, I mean to say neither of us are Japanese or otherwise Asian. I am a 50-ish year old-looking Caucasian American of mostly German/Irish descent and my friend is a tall African American man with very dark skin, almost Wesley Snipes black, who looks maybe 8-10 years younger than me.
As soon as we walked away, we were besieged by 3-4 Asian male touts flashing their photo brochures for fish tank/soapy/massage shops, two of them assuring us that, unlike the Japanese Karaoke bars on this road, one of which we were just pitched on by the Asian lady, the girls in their shops serviced non Japanese customers and provide sex.
So, which ones were telling the truth, those two Asian male touts highly motivated to convince us to choose their fish tank/soapy/massage shops over the Japanese Karaoke bars or the female Asian tout (mamasan?) trying very hard to get us to go into that Japanese Karaoke bar to enjoy the sexual favors of the lovely, young girls sitting outside? LOL.
I have no idea yet. But after having read and heard that these places only service Japanese customers, I am just passing along what we were told by the touts trying to get us into their respective venues last night. The girls sitting outside the Japanese Karaoke bar we were told most certainly catered to non Japanese/Asian customers did look pretty good, better than the typical groups sitting or standing outside the bars and shops in the Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy areas.
Guys,
I am going Bangkok in Sept. For 8 nights, Might spend two days in Pattaya. Where is the best place to stay out of Nana, suk and Soi cowboy?
My form of mongering is street girls and club freelancers. I have no interest in gogo bars or beer bars. Might try a blowjob bar tho.
I am going for numbers. As long as she is short, clean and skinny with a reasonable face I won't be to fussed.
Can you guys advise on the best streets and clubs to find girls.Somewhere on or near Soi 11 is my recommendation you're right in the middle, near freelancers, and the clubs are right there.
Member #4733
05-14-18, 19:35
So, which ones were telling the truth, those two Asian male touts highly motivated to convince us to choose their fish tank/soapy/massage shops over the Japanese Karaoke bars or the female Asian tout (mamasan?) trying very hard to get us to go into that Japanese Karaoke bar to enjoy the sexual favors of the lovely, young girls sitting outside? LOL.Those guys offering soapie girls seem to be around Patpong and Thaniya most of times. They offered me a 17 yo girl. I don't like things like that. He told me he could ask for even younger ones. I quickly moved on. That was about a year ago in broad daylight. I was walking towards the snake farm and not really interested. On April 11 or 12 I saw those soapie offering guys again. I just looked at him when somebody shouted to me: "It's a scam". I don't know what that meant exactly but I moved on.
better than the typical groups sitting or standing outside the bars and shops in the Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy areas.I passed Thaniya twice and was not so lucky as you were. They turned their heads away when I took a few steps towards them. They are beautiful, yes. But I think the most beautiful ones in Baccara are about average on Thaniya. It really struck me that they look so much the same as Baccara girls but just a bit more beautiful. I will try again next time. I like their beauty.
Gladiator69
05-15-18, 05:31
Viagra is very easy to buy in Bangkok and they don't require a prescription. Pretty much every pharmacy you walk by will have it. I buy the generic since it's way cheaper and still works fine for me. I've stayed on soi 22 many times, as you walk towards Sukhumvit, there is definitely a pharmacy there that has it.
Charoen Pharmacy on Soi 3 will give you the Sidegra at the MSRP price. Not sure what percentage of the other pharmacies will give it to you at the MSRP price. In Pattaya, none of the small pharmacies would give it to me at the MSRP price. Charoen is convenient because it is close to Nana Plaza. The prices went up last year. Now I believe it should be 120 baht for box of 4 50 MG tablets, and 200 baht for a box of 4 100 MG tablets.
Charoen Pharmacy should have legit Viagra and Cialis, but at a lot higher price. There will be counterfeit Viagra/Cialis and Indian generics on the street. Those work, but some are blanks (probably due to quality control?).Charoen Pharmacy is like a candy store! They have anything you can imagine. Got a box of 4 20 MG genuine Cialis, a box of 4 20 MG Apcalis and a box of 4 50 MG Sidegra for 2400 bahts and they worked like a charm. I'm like a teenager again!
I passed Thaniya twice and was not so lucky as you were. They turned their heads away when I took a few steps towards them. They are beautiful, yes. But I think the most beautiful ones in Baccara are about average on Thaniya. It really struck me that they look so much the same as Baccara girls but just a bit more beautiful. I will try again next time. I like their beauty.The girls sitting outside did not smile back, wave or otherwise acknowledge my friend and I either. Although I can't recall any of them turning their heads away in an effort to communicate rejection through body language. They just sat there either passive or engaged in casual conversation with each other.
And I don't remember seeing them smiling broadly and waving when the group of 8 or so Japanese guys were being corralled into the place by other touts. Maybe a couple of the girls (whose turn at bat it was in their queue?) had stood as they walked toward the door anyway.
Their passive behavior struck me as similar to the way they generally behave in venues where Japanese customers dominate, such as Thermae.
Only the female tout (or a mamasan?) who approached us to cover the particulars and invite us inside was smiley and behaved overtly friendly.
NewbExcited
05-16-18, 05:20
Having sex once or twice a day is not a problem in general, but hey I'll be in BKK and a fuck-a-thon is my plan, it may be good to get some recreational help, just in case.
From my research on this forum, Charoen Pharmacy on Soi 3 and Southeast Pharmacy on Soi 15 Sukhumvit seem to have the best chance on getting some Viagra / Sidegra or Cialis / Apcalis. Prefer the 5 MG daily dose of Cialis / Apcalis as it gets me ready all day (you know, just like my user name Gladiator), don't have to worry about when I should take it and wait for it to take effect. Open to try Kamagra too (wonder if the gel tastes medicinal).
Is it still the case that these two pharmacies are the best shot? Is there other pharmacy close to where I will stay (Holiday Inn Sukhumvit on Soi 22 on the first few days of my trip)?You can buy Viagra, Cialis or the generic ones without a prescription from pretty much any pharmacy. But the only problem is to make sure they are genuine as sale of counterfeits is widespread. I just went with eye test by checking for the trademark labels when I bought my supply. Good luck and have fun!
NewbExcited
05-16-18, 05:27
Guys,
I am going Bangkok in Sept. For 8 nights, Might spend two days in Pattaya. Where is the best place to stay out of Nana, suk and Soi cowboy?
My form of mongering is street girls and club freelancers. I have no interest in gogo bars or beer bars. Might try a blowjob bar tho.
I am going for numbers. As long as she is short, clean and skinny with a reasonable face I won't be to fussed.
Can you guys advise on the best streets and clubs to find girls.The best pick up bar for freelancers is Thermae. Dozens of them to choose from if you go before 10 PM. You will also find lot of freelancers hanging out on the streets but I found the quality to be less than desirable. Also remember that freelancers are risky as you may not be able to find them in case you are robbed. Not to mention health risk as they are not obligated to get tested.
Charoen Pharmacy on Soi 3 will give you the Sidegra at the MSRP price. Not sure what percentage of the other pharmacies will give it to you at the MSRP price. In Pattaya, none of the small pharmacies would give it to me at the MSRP price. Charoen is convenient because it is close to Nana Plaza. The prices went up last year. Now I believe it should be 120 baht for box of 4 50 MG tablets, and 200 baht for a box of 4 100 MG tablets.
Sidegra is legal Thai generic Viagra.
Has Thailand started to manufacture legal generic Cialis? In the US, Lilly loses its Cialis patent later this year.
Charoen Pharmacy should have legit Viagra and Cialis, but at a lot higher price. There will be counterfeit Viagra/Cialis and Indian generics on the street. Those work, but some are blanks (probably due to quality control?).What about the Jelly? Some say it's smoother with less side effects.
Christian G
05-16-18, 10:56
What about the Jelly? Some say it's smoother with less side effects.For me Kamagra Jelly it's stronger, faster but also with a bit more side effects compared to kamagra pills.
For me Kamagra Jelly it's stronger, faster but also with a bit more side effects compared to kamagra pills.I like the Apcalis-sx20 (tadalafil 20 MG). Significantly less side effects for me than Sidegra and still active the next day. I buy most of it on the street at 200 baht for a 4 pack and as GreenBud commented there have been occasional blanks but I always carry Kamagra Jelly with me just in case and deal with the heartburn and headache later.
I am ethnically Indian and a 60 year old Brit.
How should / would I go about hiring a GF for a duration of a week or so to enjoy the hobby and enjoy the sights of Bangkok and or Thailand?
I seek advice from seniors confirming or otherwise suggesting other venues perhaps elsewhere on the planet for the said purpose bar Africa and Middle East.
Sole traveller.
Apologies for taxing your time!
Blanquiceleste
05-17-18, 11:43
I am ethnically Indian and a 60 year old Brit.
How should / would I go about hiring a GF for a duration of a week or so to enjoy the hobby and enjoy the sights of Bangkok and or Thailand?
I seek advice from seniors confirming or otherwise suggesting other venues perhaps elsewhere on the planet for the said purpose bar Africa and Middle East.
Sole traveller.
Apologies for taxing your time!The easiest way is hire an escort for any of the multiple agencies operating in BKK. It could prove to be an expensive proposition, but I think it may be the safest route for a first timer (assuming you are one). The Escorts thread on this forum has some good advice with details of specific agencies and escorts. Good luck.
Write a report when you are done.
BangkokBull
05-17-18, 14:28
I am ethnically Indian and a 60 year old Brit.
How should / would I go about hiring a GF for a duration of a week or so to enjoy the hobby and enjoy the sights of Bangkok and or Thailand?
I seek advice from seniors confirming or otherwise suggesting other venues perhaps elsewhere on the planet for the said purpose bar Africa and Middle East.
Sole traveller.
Apologies for taxing your time!I may have a lady friend that potentially could be interested in this but since you can't receive PM (I assume because you are not a paying member) so I can't help you until you can do PM here in this site.
I know it is a bit counterintuitive to target African women while in Bangkok, but I stumbled across a really hot one on tinder. She quoted me 3000ST and 7000 (LT. So obviously, LT is out. But her ST price is in line with high end Thai escorts. So is 3000 a fair price for someone of her caliber, or should I expect a built in discount because African women in Bangkok aren't in that much demand?
The reason I ask, is that I've read various Bangkok guides that mention African FLs on the street go for somewhere in the range of 800-1000 for ST, and 1500 to 2000 for LT. Like I said before, she's hot. But I have a hard time believing she's not one of those FLs that hangs out on in the street near Soi 13.
Ggekko2009
05-17-18, 15:49
I know it is a bit counterintuitive to target African women while in Bangkok, but I stumbled across a really hot one on tinder. She quoted me 3000ST and 7000 (LT. So obviously, LT is out. But her ST price is in line with high end Thai escorts. So is 3000 a fair price for someone of her caliber, or should I expect a built in discount because African women in Bangkok aren't in that much demand?
The reason I ask, is that I've read various Bangkok guides that mention African FLs on the street go for somewhere in the range of 800-1000 for ST, and 1500 to 2000 for LT. Like I said before, she's hot. But I have a hard time believing she's not one of those FLs that hangs out on in the street near Soi 13.I think the rate is pretty reasonable based on what you just described and as always, value is always in the eye of the beholder. If she is as hot as you mentioned and is able to provide you with a memorable session, then I said it is worth every baht. If she provides a lousy session, I will regret paying no matter how low the price is or how hot she is.
Crocodilexp
05-17-18, 18:51
I know it is a bit counterintuitive to target African women while in Bangkok, but I stumbled across a really hot one on tinder. She quoted me 3000ST and 7000 (LT. So obviously, LT is out. But her ST price is in line with high end Thai escorts. So is 3000 a fair price for someone of her caliberI never had a really great experience with an African in Thailand (based on the sample size of 4 over many years), though some of them were acceptable. Having the gall to quote 7000 LT by itself indicates she's way overpriced (or expecting you to negotiate down), but if she is really hot in your eyes, and if you don't care much about burning 3000, go for it. Yes, African FLs on Sukhumvit Soi 4 are around 1000ST, but they really aren't much to look at, to put it mildly. I'm sure a hot one would ask more, but I personally wouldn't pay more than 2000ST given the low likelihood of good service.
However, watch out for fake or enhanced pictures. I wouldn't be able to decide an African working girl is hot without seeing her in person.
I never had a really great experience with an African in Thailand (based on the sample size of 4 over many years), though some of them were acceptable. Having the gall to quote 7000 LT by itself indicates she's way overpriced (or expecting you to negotiate down), but if she is really hot in your eyes, and if you don't care much about burning 3000, go for it. Yes, African FLs on Sukhumvit Soi 4 are around 1000ST, but they really aren't much to look at, to put it mildly. I'm sure a hot one would ask more, but I personally wouldn't pay more than 2000ST given the low likelihood of good service.
However, watch out for fake or enhanced pictures. I wouldn't be able to decide an African working girl is hot without seeing her in person.Overpricing like this sounds off alarm bells for me. If any WG thinks or tries to think they are way above average market value then I think attitude and thus performance may be an issue. How about counter offer with " I know the usual price is. , so if I get a good performance I will tip. " This is my MO when I monger but you have to be willing to deal with the aftermath of a a poor performance and strong enough to get them out the door. But its your money YVMD.
The reason I ask, is that I've read various Bangkok guides that mention African FLs on the street go for somewhere in the range of 800-1000 for ST, and 1500 to 2000 for LT. Like I said before, she's hot. But I have a hard time believing she's not one of those FLs that hangs out on in the street near Soi 13.I agree that asking too high a price is usually results in a bad experience that said 3 k for a hot girl in Bangkok ST is not outrageous.
I'm only interested in bareback. I've already had the shot in the butt and I don't care.
It seems bareback is harder to find these days, and for me, covered is a waste.
What are the best strategies for this? In Colombia and in the Philippines, I've found using agencies or bar girls is always a bust, as long as they have a boss, they always need covered, or they up the price.
If Thailand is the mongering capital of the world, I'm guessing if you want 24/7 bareback, then it's the easiest place to get it. But, I think there's an HIV craze there now, where all the girls are too scared to bareback now.
Any experienced mongers in Thailand that can advise me?
Thanks.
I know it is a bit counterintuitive to target African women while in Bangkok, but I stumbled across a really hot one on tinder. She quoted me 3000ST and 7000 (LT. So obviously, LT is out. But her ST price is in line with high end Thai escorts. So is 3000 a fair price for someone of her caliber, or should I expect a built in discount because African women in Bangkok aren't in that much demand?
The reason I ask, is that I've read various Bangkok guides that mention African FLs on the street go for somewhere in the range of 800-1000 for ST, and 1500 to 2000 for LT. Like I said before, she's hot. But I have a hard time believing she's not one of those FLs that hangs out on in the street near Soi 13.If you can share her photo here, it will be easy to tell you. Without a photo, it would be a complete guess offering up an opinion.
On a side note, for all the occasional suggestions that my interest in achieving a true GFE as in BBFS or BBBJ+CIM+(preferably) Swallow finish as being extreme, out of the main stream, not something many or most other punters care much about, should not justify tweaking any, say, escort-related business model to accommodate a discrete arrangement of same and so on, Neigung's report and my experience right here reminds me that I don't recall ever reading a Field Report on this or any similar site listing either outcome with their lady on the "negative" side of her rating score card rather than squarely on the "positive" side. Just mentioning that observation in passing.Girls from Thai Friendly, or at least the GFE experience type of girls like this, I assume don't simply live right next to Soi Cowboy and aren't girls working that area waiting for a text. If this assumption is true, and you are pulling awesome GFE experience girls, more non-pro kind of girls, from other areas, is it better to book a hotel that is more central or less in-the-middle of Soi Cowboy, etc. ?
This is totally what I'm looking for, because I don't care for crowds, smoking, or even alcohol really. Just achieving true GFE and solid good times, privately. So a hotel further away from Soi Cowboy and Nana is totally fine with me if it means more convenient access to GFE more non-pro girls, part-time freelancers.
Eszpresszo
05-18-18, 12:32
The reason I ask, is that I've read various Bangkok guides that mention African FLs on the street go for somewhere in the range of 800-1000 for ST, and 1500 to 2000 for LT. Like I said before, she's hot. But I have a hard time believing she's not one of those FLs that hangs out on in the street near Soi 13.I encountered a girl from Ghana near soi 7 on my first night who offered herself to me for 1000. She was pleasant to to look at, which is saying a lot coming from me, since I'm not too attracted to her race. I had just popped in a Thai girl, so I had to pass.
That said, you need not pay a premium for Africans, who don't seem to be that popular in Thailand (and probably not anywhere else that I know of). I think the price you were quoted was the "Tinder" premium that applies to punters who are too lazy to hit the streets, look at the ample inventory and negotiate.
Robert Long
05-18-18, 19:21
I'm only interested in bareback. I've already had the shot in the butt and I don't care.
It seems bareback is harder to find these days, and for me, covered is a waste.
What are the best strategies for this? In Colombia and in the Philippines, I've found using agencies or bar girls is always a bust, as long as they have a boss, they always need covered, or they up the price.
If Thailand is the mongering capital of the world, I'm guessing if you want 24/7 bareback, then it's the easiest place to get it. But, I think there's an HIV craze there now, where all the girls are too scared to bareback now.
Any experienced mongers in Thailand that can advise me?
Thanks.The best bet is to use a web site like ThaiCupid or one of the many and find a GF. This is the approach I have used for years. They never ask for a condom. Many advantages with a GF in Thailand. She will advise, protect, and negotiate prices for you so you do not overpay Taxis and street food etc.
I travel with her and enjoy the anywhere and anytime sex we have. At todays prices in anything offered and the shitty service that most Wg's are giving I feel the best way to go is the GF route. Some can't travel because they work so if you plan on more than one GF you set them up in the places you want to monger.
I've been thru the exercise of banging a different WG every night. 50% are a waste. I don't have the means to stay in Thailand for months like some of the seniors here so it is difficult to get a winner in each club that has proved great when you need her.
I have come to the conclusion that a GF is the best way to go for an old gizzer like me.
RL.
I never had a really great experience with an African in Thailand (based on the sample size of 4 over many years), though some of them were acceptable. Having the gall to quote 7000 LT by itself indicates she's way overpriced (or expecting you to negotiate down), but if she is really hot in your eyes, and if you don't care much about burning 3000, go for it. Yes, African FLs on Sukhumvit Soi 4 are around 1000ST, but they really aren't much to look at, to put it mildly. I'm sure a hot one would ask more, but I personally wouldn't pay more than 2000ST given the low likelihood of good service.
However, watch out for fake or enhanced pictures. I wouldn't be able to decide an African working girl is hot without seeing her in person.My friends and I get approached quite often, separately, by the better looking African girls strolling around Sukhumvit area. Yes, there are very few really good looking ones, imo. They all seem to be quoting ridiculously high prices; 3,000 baht for ST, for example. Imo, that is high for a girl walking the streets in the rain or heat. I got the 3 that I have tried so far down to 2,000/2,500 by being quite ready to walk away. But I have not had one budge below that. And most seem very reluctant to agree to BBBJ+CIM. They are checking their phones a lot so I assume they are on Tinder all the time or whatever. The less attractive ones seem to be ok with 1,000-1,500, but I have never taken one of them.
Based on my limited experience with 3 better looking African girls walking the streets of Bangkok over the past couple of years and what my friends tell me of their experiences, none of us were impressed or even fairly well satisfied by what happened in the room and ongoing interest in trying more African girls is near zero. Seems in Thailand, "Once You Go Black" you quickly discover that once (or twice) is plenty to satisfy your curiosity and it is quite easy to go back.
I'm only interested in bareback. I've already had the shot in the butt and I don't care.
It seems bareback is harder to find these days, and for me, covered is a waste.
What are the best strategies for this? In Colombia and in the Philippines, I've found using agencies or bar girls is always a bust, as long as they have a boss, they always need covered, or they up the price.
If Thailand is the mongering capital of the world, I'm guessing if you want 24/7 bareback, then it's the easiest place to get it. But, I think there's an HIV craze there now, where all the girls are too scared to bareback now.
Any experienced mongers in Thailand that can advise me?
Thanks.Making a case for how and why a Thai girl, be it a go-go dancer, a massage shop girl, a freelancer or a regular, non P4P dating site girl would go bareback with you can hinge on a hundred well-timed and presented approaches and responses. Too many to list here and now for each and every possible situation, of course. I wish it were as simple as saying some magic words or offering much more money. But it isn't. Yes, part of it is the HIV craze that isn't exactly currently in the air but the aftershocks from past decades are still being felt.
However, there are some basics that I would not leave home without regarding this subject. First of all, be conscientious and honorable about measures you DO take to be as safe as possible despite not wearing a condom; Get a vasectomy. If you are not circumcised already, get yourself circumcised. Always have a current (within a month or two is enough, imo) clean / normal / negative / non-reactive blood check document from a well-known reliable source in your possession to show the girl should she be interested in seeing it.
Committing to those conditions will automatically give you more confidence about making the offer or request to go bareback on the premise that you are as safe for them without a condom as many men they will meet who fully intend to wear a condom. I use the term "intend" intentionally and for a reason. After all, men "intending" to wear an intact condom can certainly produce more unwanted pregnancies, contract and transmit dangerous or deadly bugs than any circumcised man who has had a vasectomy and possesses a current negative blood check document.
Having done that, and assuming you are not the kind of guy willing to "go with the flow" and wait to see if nature just takes its course in the room (I am about half into this, half not into it since a "no" to bareback sex from the girl at any point means I will not be engaging in vaginal intercourse with her. End of story. No exceptions. It will simply not happen for me with a condom. Tried everything. I am old enough and experienced enough to know, for an absolute fact, that the outcome this time will not be different if I just give it one more try.), I suppose you could say there are some basic "approaches" to it:
You can make your agreeing to pay her first quoted price, or a bump up from it, contingent upon going bareback with the assurance that you are probably provably safer with your vasectomy and current blood check document than most of the men she might encounter "intending" to wear a condom.
As has been mentioned, you might choose to meet girls on the dating sites and become more or less their real boyfriend for a while. Can't say they "never ask for a condom". That certainly hasn't been my experience. But you can load up on enough first meetings in 2-3 days to meet some who will be fine with barebacking you. Or you can cover that issue with them through text and video chatting even before you meet them in person. That tends to be my general method. I also can send them a photo of my current blood check document while we're on the subject. Many, many times I have already tapped down any concerns and worries about going bareback with me well before that first coffee meeting.
I believe it also helps to be as sincere and honest about it as possible. It isn't easy to project an image of a sexual Superman while admitting to the girl that, unfortunately, you just can't get it up, keep it up and get it off while wearing a condom. But if that is the fact, tell her so. Some girls will chuckle in derision, huff and puff in disgust, launch into a lecture about how you are destroying the world and so on. Shrug if off and move on. There are others right behind those girls who will appreciate your honesty, your effort to be as safe as possible anyway and be happy to jump into bed with you for real skin-to-skin contact sex.
Ultimately, sheer numbers are in your favor. Don't let one, two, three or more rejections stop you. My experience is these things occur in clusters. It is just as likely that the next 4-5 will all say yes to it.
Steve 9696
05-18-18, 23:10
If why want guaranteed bareback then Thailand may not be for you. Only place on the forums I see guarantees bareback is at Dietzenbach FKK near Frankfurt. Bareback is more common in Japan than other places from ehat I can tell tho clearly YMMV.
Ggekko2009
05-18-18, 23:24
My friends and I get approached quite often, separately, by the better looking African girls strolling around Sukhumvit area. Yes, there are very few really good looking ones, imo. They all seem to be quoting ridiculously high prices; 3,000 baht for ST, for example. Imo, that is high for a girl walking the streets in the rain or heat. I got the 3 that I have tried so far down to 2,000/2,500 by being quite ready to walk away. But I have not had one budge below that. And most seem very reluctant to agree to BBBJ+CIM. They are checking their phones a lot so I assume they are on Tinder all the time or whatever. The less attractive ones seem to be ok with 1,000-1,500, but I have never taken one of them.
Based on my limited experience with 3 better looking African girls walking the streets of Bangkok over the past couple of years and what my friends tell me of their experiences, none of us were impressed or even fairly well satisfied by what happened in the room and ongoing interest in trying more African girls is near zero. Seems in Thailand, "Once You Go Black" you quickly discover that once (or twice) is plenty to satisfy your curiosity and it is quite easy to go back.The first thing that anyone would learn from ECON-101 is that price is always determined by supply and demand. I don't see demand for African girls especially among the Asian clienteles (it's a culture thing) and hard to ignore the fact that is where the bulk of the customers come from in Bangkok. That probably explains why they may not have pricing power when compared to CIS or even Vietnamese girls.
The best bet is to use a web site like ThaiCupid or one of the many and find a GF. This is the approach I have used for years. They never ask for a condom. Many advantages with a GF in Thailand. She will advise, protect, and negotiate prices for you so you do not overpay Taxis and street food etc.
I travel with her and enjoy the anywhere and anytime sex we have. At todays prices in anything offered and the shitty service that most Wg's are giving I feel the best way to go is the GF route. Some can't travel because they work so if you plan on more than one GF you set them up in the places you want to monger.
I've been thru the exercise of banging a different WG every night. 50% are a waste. I don't have the means to stay in Thailand for months like some of the seniors here so it is difficult to get a winner in each club that has proved great when you need her.
I have come to the conclusion that a GF is the best way to go for an old gizzer like me.
RL.I am 29, and I've had the same experience in Manila. I agree, GF is the best way to go, because too many WGs are a waste. I haven't experienced Angeles though, yet, where I expect bareback and WG's being a waste to be minimal.
Your GF route, do you only keep one? Are they usually jealous or require being the only GF or about you not mongering on the side?
What are the compensation expectations of Thai GFs?
To others and RL. If there are so many options and girls, can't we just turn her away in the room, within 5 minutes, if she refuses bareback? I mean. That's my plan in Angeles is to say OK, no thanks, to any FL, and go back downstairs and find someone that will. I feel like this is a reasonable strategy, because it is just leveraging the truth, that you can just go back down and find someone else in 5 minutes.
The first thing that anyone would learn from ECON-101 is that price is always determined by supply and demand. I don't see demand for African girls especially among the Asian clienteles (it's a culture thing) and hard to ignore the fact that is where the bulk of the customers come from in Bangkok. That probably explains why they may not have pricing power when compared to CIS or even Vietnamese girls.I don't know, I don't see many Asian men stopping to chat with or walking off with an African girl on the stroll in the Bangkok red light areas. It is almost always farang men doing that. Maybe it is different inside certain clubs and discos where I am not there to observe it.
Like most, I assumed the African girls were going for less money than their Thai counterparts and willing to do more for the money because they were not what most farang punters have travelled 20-36 hours to Thailand to get.
But the better looking African girls apparently don't see it that way and feel their exotic difference and the satisfaction of "curiosity" is worth more and can stand alone as a reason to hold firm at or near their quoted price even if the quality of service provided is way lower. And they must be right.
Just this past week a visiting friend of mine spied a better looking than most African girl standing among other hopefuls outside Thermae. We had both seen her on the stroll along Sukhumvit near Sois 4 and 3 before. This time he approached her, chatted with her quite a long time while I stood far off to the side and did get her to come down from 3,000 to 2,000 for ST, her stating she was up for "everything" except anal.
Turned out, very much in sync with many Thai girls' definition of "everything", she was very reluctant to engage in DFK and BBBJ even as mere foreplay, not going to provide a CIM finish much less truly finish it with a polite and proper swallow and there was not going to be any BBFS happening either. So much for any reasonable definition of "everything". He said it was so much work on his part and so not worth the effort he wouldn't repeat if she came down to 200 baht for the next one.
And one interesting side note is she told him she was playing hide and seek with the cops for possible visa violation. So if any girl should have been sweet as pie about accommodating the desires for a discounted rate of a pleasant, attractive gentleman who would and could have been a go-to port in her storm over and over again on repeat sessions and to keep her off the highly visible stroll as much as possible, this girl was it. Yet, none of that motivated her to do even the rock bottom minimum without a somewhat abrasive and dismissive attitude in the room with a whole new list of services not included in the term "everything."
Ggekko2009
05-19-18, 04:07
If why want guaranteed bareback then Thailand may not be for you. Only place on the forums I see guarantees bareback is at Dietzenbach FKK near Frankfurt. Bareback is more common in Japan than other places from ehat I can tell tho clearly YMMV.Bareback AO is now outlawed in Germany as of July last year.
Steve 9696
05-19-18, 04:13
Bareback AO is now outlawed in Germany as of July last year.Yeah and so is BBBJ (OWOW). Wink wink. Seriously, go read the German FKK forums. There was a 6 month BBBJ lull and then right back at it- tho some girls are charging 50€ more. But CIM was always 50€ up charge, so moot for me. AO is still quite available at a handful of clubs (don't expect high optics tho).
Ggekko2009
05-19-18, 04:31
I don't know, I don't see many Asian men stopping to chat with or walking off with an African girl on the stroll in the Bangkok red light areas. It is almost always farang men doing that. Maybe it is different inside certain clubs and discos where I am not there to observe it.
Like most, I assumed the African girls were going for less money than their Thai counterparts and willing to do more for the money because they were not what most farang punters have travelled 20-36 hours to Thailand to get.
But the better looking African girls apparently don't see it that way and feel their exotic difference and the satisfaction of "curiosity" is worth more and can stand alone as a reason to hold firm at or near their quoted price even if the quality of service provided is way lower. And they must be right.
Just this past week a visiting friend of mine spied a better looking than most African girl standing among other hopefuls outside Thermae. We had both seen her on the stroll along Sukhumvit near Sois 4 and 3 before. This time he approached her, chatted with her quite a long time while I stood far off to the side and did get her to come down from 3,000 to 2,000 for ST, her stating she was up for "everything" except anal.
Turned out, very much in sync with many Thai girls' definition of "everything", she was very reluctant to engage in DFK and BBBJ even as mere foreplay, not going to provide a CIM finish much less truly finish it with a polite and proper swallow and there was not going to be any BBFS happening either. So much for any reasonable definition of "everything". He said it was so much work on his part and so not worth the effort he wouldn't repeat if she came down to 200 baht for the next one.
And one interesting side note is she told him she was playing hide and seek with the cops for possible visa violation. So if any girl should have been sweet as pie about accommodating the desires for a discounted rate of a pleasant, attractive gentleman who would and could have been a go-to port in her storm over and over again on repeat sessions and to keep her off the highly visible stroll as much as possible, this girl was it. Yet, none of that motivated her to do even the rock bottom minimum without a somewhat abrasive and dismissive attitude in the room with a whole new list of services not included in the term "everything."
If you happen to read my past reports on Pattaya and Bangkok, you can see that I did not have much luck with the Thai girls on the GFE front. Given that Thailand is infamous as the mongering destination and with so many tourists descending on the place, I believe it has contributed to all these lousy attitudes that I had encountered from these working girls. Cold, mechanical and purely transactional. Compared to them, I think a sex robot can provide better intimacy, LOL.
My recent Bangkok trip could have been an unmemorable one. Luckily, I was able to meet up with a CIS girl who had made this Bangkok trip the best one that I have had in years among all other destinations. What an irony! Anyway, I do so not see Bangkok as a repeat destination for me in the near future.
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05-19-18, 05:38
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I am 29, and I've had the same experience in Manila. I agree, GF is the best way to go, because too many WGs are a waste. I haven't experienced Angeles though, yet, where I expect bareback and WG's being a waste to be minimal.
Your GF route, do you only keep one? Are they usually jealous or require being the only GF or about you not mongering on the side?
What are the compensation expectations of Thai GFs?Answering for myself and I think my "regular girlfriend" style choices are different from RobertLong's, I do with my girlfriends all the things he stated in his post but I have a stable of "girlfriends" to choose from for doing it. I do not have just one or two special gfs that are like this with me in that way, that is. I never pledge fidelity to them when we first meet, never tell them I am not having sex with other girls, never work to make them think I sit home and twiddle my thumbs between our meetings. I don't rub their noses in it. I mean when they ask throughout the day on Line, "What are you doing? "Where are you?" "Is the friend you are with a man or a woman?" and so on, I respond to their, imo, unjustified intrusive monitoring of my behavior with innocuous responses and give them the one they want to hear. When I do bother to respond to those kinds of repeated questions.
Meanwhile, it is a rare occurrence that one of my Thai girlfriends bolts in anger because it becomes clear I am using my precious and well-earned freedom to see other women. Quite the opposite. I have found my return to them after an absence, sometimes by as much as 2-3 weeks, that can only be logically explained as my partaking of other female sexual delights, is to embrace me more ardently, fuck more enthusiastically, suck more eagerly. Seriously, it is more likely that these women will envy your ability to act on genuine masculine freedom exactly the way they are certain they would if they had been born with a penis instead of a vagina and want to be closer to it rather than run away from it. Not saying they won't pout and send head-exploding Line stickers when you put them off for an entire week or two. But they somehow manage to get over it pretty quickly and right back into girlfriend mode.
In terms of compensation, it depends on the need. If you expect to have a very, very needy girl hang with you often, I'd say politely slip her a couple of thousand baht every week or so "To help your family" or whatever the issue has been. But most of my girlfriends have decent jobs, can pay their own rent, do not have horror stories to share about dying grandpa and grandma and will push back almost any offer even to pay for their taxi ride to meet me. But that doesn't mean they won't start giving me big doe eyes when the next 30,000 baht Samsung smartphone hits the market. LOL. See, that is something they can show their co-workers and cousins as evidence of your love other than selfies of the two of you laying in bed together.
To others and RL. If there are so many options and girls, can't we just turn her away in the room, within 5 minutes, if she refuses bareback? I mean. That's my plan in Angeles is to say OK, no thanks, to any FL, and go back downstairs and find someone that will. I feel like this is a reasonable strategy, because it is just leveraging the truth, that you can just go back down and find someone else in 5 minutes.I have a feeling that will work better in the Philippines than in Thailand. Oh, sure, you can put a Thai FL out for any reason. But I wouldn't expect many to just take your wasting their time and perhaps even getting a free nude show in the shower before finding out they won't provide BBFS as passively and with so much understanding and acceptance as Philippino FLs unless you meant that you would also be paying whatever amount you agreed to pay anyway. Despite the impression some newbies might have that Thai hookers are desperate to do anything with anyone for money and that a decision to wear a condom or not is generally up to the customer for his own reasons, the fact is a Thai hooker who says she will give you "EVERYTHING" only says that to convince you to take her and is very firm in her mind that "EVERYTHING" excludes anything she just doesn't feel like doing this time or with you ever. Wearing a condom is something many if not most Thai hookers think or at least want to convince anyone within earshot that they think everyone in this game does all the time with very, very rare exception.
Therefore, a Thai hooker who is put out without the agreed upon baht amount because she won't give you BBFS when she has NOT agreed to do it before walking to your room with you will not take kindly to it, will likely not keep her mouth shut about what you just did and why for anyone in the lobby of your hotel and outside the door to hear, any other FLs she stands near and on and on. If it really matters that you not spend a baht more than necessary getting BBFS with Thai hookers and aren't willing to "go with the flow" and take a chance that all might turn out well in the room, I would recommend you getting a clear and unambiguous affirmative response to the question before you take one to your room.
I hit Bangkok late in the afternoon, threw the bags on the hotel floor, grabbed a shower then food and headed to Nana Plaza. Around 8.00, all the places were just filing in. I had a beer under the new canopy at the ground floor Bar and watched the activity. Headed up to level 3 around 8. 15 and hung around outside of Billboard with all the girls that were just about to go in. There were only maybe 6 girls inside and less than that number in guys. It was nice to see everyone just chilling outside in natural light and I took note of a few numbers. One of 3 super hotties present had obviously organised to meet some young dude outside as when he arrived they were off with smiles all round – never even entered the club, maybe just ducked inside to pay the bar fine, it all happened so quick I didn't catch it all.
I went in around 8. 30 and there were still only maybe 12 girls in, a few up on the rotating dance floor and maybe 3 in the tub and half that in guys. At about 9. 00 there was probably a full crowd of 30+ girls and probably the same in guys. The mamasan, whom I had just met, was sitting next to me with her arms around me and we were having a bit of a laugh as a girl I had been eyeing stepped down from the stage and walked past. Apparently on her way to a dude (which I only found out later). I motioned to her as she was walking past and she looked at me and the mamasan for direction on what to do. Mamasam gave me the nod. I guess it always pays to be friendly to everybody, yes be aware of what their motives are but a smile and friendly banter does payoff.
So this young 20 year old stunner sits with me for a drink, her English was basic at best so after 10 minutes we are off. I pay the bar tab which was a drink for me 200, drink for the lady 320 ish? And then pay my girl the 700 bar fine which she took to the cashier and we were off. I pay her quote of 3000, don't see the point of negotiating down to 2500 as she had been really reasonable with everything up to this point. I do apologise to the guy that ended up with her friend and they both gave us a big wave and smile as we were leaving so Kudos to you buddy – you are a true gentleman and I honestly didn't know she was on her way over to you until I thought about it much later.
We get to the hotel and it turns out she has only been there a short time and was very new. Her looks are simply stunning, perfect bikini body, no baby or other scars and I would go as far as say that she was one of the most stunning working girls I had seen anywhere. Now this is where it is hard to review her. She was really shy and obviously very inexperienced. So, little foreplay, she really didn't know what to do, but once I started to rub her pussy she got really wet and started to writhe a little, I jumped on top and she got into it, hanging onto to me in a really intimate type of way, burying her head into my neck and moaning louder and louder, very GFE type of action. It all appeared genuine and she was so sweet. I don't really care if it is genuine or not as I am there for myself, but I would say she has only had limited sex in her life and it is all a new experience for her. I personally prefer a PSE, I have a nice GF back home so don't really need the intimacy from a worker but it was an interesting sweet experience.
I am the kind of guy that likes to repeat, I believe if you find someone that does it for you it is worth going again and exploring further until it is time to move on and find the next best thing. I like to build a few regulars in different places and rotate through them all the while replacing the ones that drop off with the never ending supply of new ones. With this girl the starting point in experience is so low that I don't know that it is worth repeating. It would just take too long to get her more into the PSE mould that I prefer. I believe it would be possible just probably not a good risk / reward scenario. She did ask a few times when I am going to see her again to which I used the "duck and weave" boxing strategy so not to answer directly, maybe I will..or maybe that cute little spinner that I almost took would be a better option, she did look crazy and probably up for anything. It is good to be back Bangkok.
Please note: I prefer not to say the girls number. I believe in sharing info about the place and then leaving it up to the individual to search out what does it for them at the actual place.
Got a good looking mid 20's takeout from Thermae on Monday night around midnight. There were plenty of choices available, not too many mongers, and several were making eye contact. The price was settled at 2500 after a very short negotiation. I asked all the right questions about DFK, BBBJ and DATY and the girl agreed to all in the bar. But, once in the hotel, she was very resistant to all of these. The session was a disaster and I asked her to perform a massage instead. This seems to be the trend in Thermae these days, similar to other recent reports. I will probably try TF / TC on my next visit.
I went in around 8. 30 and there were still only maybe 12 girls in, a few up on the rotating dance floor and maybe 3 in the tub and half that in guys. At about 9. 00 there was probably a full crowd of 30+ girls and probably the same in guys. The mamasan, whom I had just met, was sitting next to me with her arms around me and we were having a bit of a laugh as a girl I had been eyeing stepped down from the stage and walked past. Apparently on her way to a dude (which I only found out later). I motioned to her as she was walking past and she looked at me and the mamasan for direction on what to do. Mamasam gave me the nod. I guess it always pays to be friendly to everybody, yes be aware of what their motives are but a smile and friendly banter does payoff.
We get to the hotel and it turns out she has only been there a short time and was very new. Her looks are simply stunning, perfect bikini body, no baby or other scars and I would go as far as say that she was one of the most stunning working girls I had seen anywhere. Now this is where it is hard to review her. She was really shy and obviously very inexperienced. You arrived at the perfect time, to get to see the best looking girls. One was taken already pre booked.
Hope it was not the big fat mamasan. She is not to be trusted (to return the change) and will always be sucking up for drinks and tips. Well worth avoiding.
It is not at all unusual here to have the penalty for choosing such a hot fresh young girl, to find they are very shy, inexperienced and lacking in skills. Happened to me too. Luck of the draw. I had one excellent girl as well, but no pornstar types.
If you happen to read my past reports on Pattaya and Bangkok, you can see that I did not have much luck with the Thai girls on the GFE front. Given that Thailand is infamous as the mongering destination and with so many tourists descending on the place, I believe it has contributed to all these lousy attitudes that I had encountered from these working girls. Cold, mechanical and purely transactional. Compared to them, I think a sex robot can provide better intimacy, LOL.
That seems very non typical. You must have chosen the wrong girls, or somehow you were the wrong guy for them. I did not read, so I don't know if you built chemistry somehow or not. I try to have fun with a bargirl first, before deciding on her. I certainly have a stable of girls that I repeat regularly who give a very GF like Experience. Certainly not cold and mechanical. They can let themselves go. Even working girls can get horny and want to cum sometimes.
Not all girls are beautiful kissers. That is something to try to find out quickly. One girl almost can't keep her tongue out of my mouth, she is into kissing that much. Doesn't smoke too.
Yeah and so is BBBJ (OWOW). Wink wink. Seriously, go read the German FKK forums. There was a 6 month BBBJ lull and then right back at it- tho some girls are charging 50 more. But CIM was always 50 up charge, so moot for me. AO is still quite available at a handful of clubs (don't expect high optics tho).I did not experience any 6 month lull, nor have I made an agreement to pay extra for a BBBJ. At 2 major venues, never had a CBJ despite the change in law. Not much useful info on the German forums. I don't bother to read them any more. I would agree with you though, despite BB being outlawed (BBFS must have been illegal for years), likely to make little difference (so cannot see the relevance of Geckko's comment - AO clubs were ever fully legal? LOL). Not really relevant to Bangkok. Lots of things happening in Bangkok are not completely legal either.
I hardly ever had a CBJ in Bangkok. Really can't remember the last one, not that it would have been memorable. LOL.
The best bet is to use a web site like ThaiCupid or one of the many and find a GF. This is the approach I have used for years. They never ask for a condom. Many advantages with a GF in Thailand. She will advise, protect, and negotiate prices for you so you do not overpay Taxis and street food etc.
I travel with her and enjoy the anywhere and anytime sex we have. At todays prices in anything offered and the shitty service that most Wg's are giving I feel the best way to go is the GF route. Some can't travel because they work so if you plan on more than one GF you set them up in the places you want to monger.
I've been thru the exercise of banging a different WG every night. 50% are a waste. I don't have the means to stay in Thailand for months like some of the seniors here so it is difficult to get a winner in each club that has proved great when you need her.
I have come to the conclusion that a GF is the best way to go for an old gizzer like me.
RL.A GF is not best for everyone, especially as not all GFs provide totally adequate levels of sex. Can be a money trap unless she needs no support whatsoever. What does a beautiful young girl need a really old guy for? (can't she do any better? Yes I am old enough). WGs can be cheaper. Also many others are seeking to have more variety.
Can be better to have a Gik instead of GF, or a girl in an inbetween status, I. E. Not your main wife, but a secondary one.
I have main GF (plenty of years), secondary one (Gik), and also WGs. None of the these are totally perfect from all perspectives. It needs trimming back. LOL.
I did not experience any 6 month lull, nor have I made an agreement to pay extra for a BBBJ. At 2 major venues, never had a CBJ despite the change in law. Not much useful info on the German forums. I don't bother to read them any more. I would agree with you though, despite BB being outlawed (BBFS must have been illegal for years), likely to make little difference (so cannot see the relevance of Geckko's comment - AO clubs were ever fully legal? LOL). Not really relevant to Bangkok. Lots of things happening in Bangkok are not completely legal either.
I hardly ever had a CBJ in Bangkok. Really can't remember the last one, not that it would have been memorable. LOL.For pure mongering I would choose FKK over Thailand any day. FKK has the hottest WGs in the world. Thailand, however, has a much better cost of living and year round weather. Summertime is FKKtime upselling BBBJ or not.
For pure mongering I would choose FKK over Thailand any day. FKK has the hottest WGs in the world. Thailand, however, has a much better cost of living and year round weather. Summertime is FKKtime upselling BBBJ or not.If you rent an apartment by the month, and eat Thai food, you will be much better off in Thailand. If stay in Hotels, it does not make much difference.
If you want a quickie or several quickies (30 minutes each), you are better off in FKK. Once you want a girl for long time like 2 hours to all night, Thailand becomes a lot cheaper. Once you want CIM and anal, you are better off in Thailand with no surcharges.
With unlimited funds, yes, I too would live in continual procession of FKKs (there are guys that do that), till it dies out, and keep choosing the odd stunner. You can even do Thai girls in FKK, should you find a pretty one. On average they give more reliable service was my experience (over European girls), and some black girls (if find a pretty one) are way better than the BKK black girls (on average).
Clearly we like both, but you get what you pay for. Both styles have a very limited percentage of really pretty girls (with hot bodies too).
OlderMan4U
05-21-18, 02:14
On my last trip to Thailand I did not have a single memorable sexual experience which has contributed to me souring on the place. Prior to that I have always had memorable sexual experiences which kept me hooked on Thailand.
Before my trip I got some solid leads on girls I wanted to meet in Bangkok from Thai Cupid. Most of them flaked out once I got there and the mongering couldn't save it. I only went out to the bars a few nights on my trip and I went to Nana Plaza where I had so many great encounters in years gone by.
Had a bad experience at Spanky's where I was hassled by a service girl after sitting there for maybe 20 minutes or so, she holds up my drink and tells me if I don't order anything soon I'd have to leave. I'm usually the most generous customer around and once I get warmed up I buy endless round of drinks for staff and the girls since I don't drink much myself and not the type to nurse one drink for hours. Up to that point I was still trying to get a feel for some of the girls on stage and none of them returned my smile or look, but right before this service lady hassled me, a cute girl on stage started smiling at me just before her dance rotation ended. I was going to ask for her until this incident. So I approached what I assumed was the foreign manager in the back and his attitude was less than impressive to say the least. I told him what happened and instead of being professional and courteous, tries to shift the blame on me and insinuates that since it's a busy club, they do what is needed. And then he condescendingly tells me that if I felt that bad about it, he'd buy me a drink. Needless to say I check binned and left no tip.
And then it dawned on me, this exact same thing happened to me six years ago in, you guessed it, Spanky's. At that time, I contacted the owner / manager by e-mail and he was very apologetic and said that the lady involved no longer worked there. Whatever.
I did have a good time at the Rainbow bars though, friendly service staff and I ended up barfining a girl for short time on the premises. The sex wasn't all that great, kind of mechanical. Before my stop in Bangkok I actually spent a few days in Pattaya in order to catch up with an old friend and I barfined one girl from a Soi LK Metro gogo and the sex was not that great either. Ditto with a Soi 6 girl.
At that point I was just so bored and tired of it all and spent most of my time in my hotel room or going out to eat and catch a movie.
Banana Boi
05-21-18, 04:03
FKK vs. Thailand can be argued until we are blue in the face. Personally I was a FKK guy for 5 years making 6 trips per year but since I discovered Thailand I only visit Germany annually and I have moved to Pattaya. Imo the biggest contributing factor is whether you prefer Thai or Romanian girls. There are exceptions to the rule but imo there is no GFE from Romanian girls. Thai girls can give you the perception of a GFE.
Price wise both are comparable for a day of fun. A top gogo girl in Pattaya will run a non-expat 2000 barfine, 5000 overnight, 1000 food and snacks, 2000 drinks at gogo bar, totaling 10,000 baht per night. Add a few thousand baht if you're going to Hollywood disco. 10,000 baht in Germany would be FKK club entry and 2 girls for 1 hour. Give me the Thai girl who has just given her all for 18 hours from 9 pm until 3 pm the next day over 2 Romanians for 2 hours total. Regardless of price I know which I prefer to do for my 18 hours. FKK clubs are also extremely boring unless you're with a girl or a group of buddies.
Don't get me wrong Romanians can be beautiful but so are the TOP end Pattaya gogo girls. I'm not referring to 98% of the Thai girls you can get for a fraction of the cost.
For pure mongering I would choose FKK over Thailand any day. FKK has the hottest WGs in the world. Thailand, however, has a much better cost of living and year round weather. Summertime is FKKtime upselling BBBJ or not.I have been visiting the FKKs in Germany every year, for the past 12 years, and I mus have done 15+ trips there. I agree that you find some really hot girls there, but there is hardly any GFE. The sessions tend to be more business like and hence mechanical, whereas in Thailand I've had quite a few sessions that were GFE. I am not sure what you mean by "pure mongering".
I agree that the FKKs are great in the summer, with the outdoor pools, barbecue, and the girls tanning there, quite a sight! Planning to be there in late June / early July.
Banana Boi
05-21-18, 07:11
I can quickly clarify this debate. As long as you are not opposed to Romanian or Thai girls, anyone experienced mongerer MUST try both places. Jakarta is another must try destination if you're coming to Thailand.
Don't come to Thailand if you want TOP girls and think it's cheap. It isn't! I'm sure guys don't go to German FKK clubs looking for a Sylvana over a Kate.
Their passive behavior struck me as similar to the way they generally behave in venues where Japanese customers dominate, such as Thermae.
A very astute observation. Never occurred to me the girls at Thermae act passively the way they do because this is what their Japanese customers want.
Was with a sweet black girl for a week.
Started with her in Bangkok, and then to Pattaya.
She is so sexual minded. In Pattaya we tried a couple of threesome both with a black girl and a local girl. At some point I thought she wanted it more than me hahahah She was licking the girls and fingerfucking her, not shy at all.
And she really went deep when sucking me.
She lives in Bangkok.
If you want details, feel free to contact me.
A very astute observation. Never occurred to me the girls at Thermae act passively the way they do because this is what their Japanese customers want.Goatscrot has pointed it out as well several times. Perhaps others, not sure. Unfortunately, I suspect that "cultural adaptation" to Japanese style also likely carries over into what those girls will and won't do in the room. Or, rather, have and have not done.
Which brings up another observation I'd like to make. Interesting that these girls work so hard to "culturally adapt" to what Japanese customers expect of them before and, presumably, during a session yet after decades upon decades of the main P4P business in the red light/tourist areas depending on them to "culturally adapt" to Farang customers, so many girls, bar managers, mamasans and so on still can't cut it and WE are the ones blamed for "choosing the wrong girl", "having the wrong approach", "expecting too much", "not entertaining THEM enough first", "not understanding and accepting THEIR cultural limitations properly", and on and on. LOL.
Seems to me at some point the girls, mamasans and managers entering this business as generations of them have before should have been "culturally adapting" to what Farangs want, need and expect of them regarding their behavior, attitude, demeanor, sexual activities and so on. Isn't it about time to start concluding the vast majority of times when we hear of a lousy encounter or session that it can't really be the Farang customer's fault very often anymore, that by now it must be the providers, mamasans, managers and the like who are screwing up their job by not "culturally adapting" to what WE Farangs want and not the Farang customer failing to "culturally adapt" to their ways?
Do we suppose the Japanese customers would shrug it off and blame themselves so quickly and easily when the girls they choose don't behave properly according to their "cultural" expectations? I doubt it.
Just sayin'.
Had a bad experience at Spanky's where I was hassled by a service girl after sitting there for maybe 20 minutes or so, she holds up my drink and tells me if I don't order anything soon I'd have to leave..That is pretty standard at most Nana bars that I know of. Complaining to the manager is a complete waste of time, they are the ones that make that policy and ensure that it is enforced.
Goatscrot has pointed it out as well several times. Perhaps others, not sure. Unfortunately, I suspect that "cultural adaptation" to Japanese style also likely carries over into what those girls will and won't do in the room. Or, rather, have and have not done.
Which brings up another observation I'd like to make. Interesting that these girls work so hard to "culturally adapt" to what Japanese customers expect of them before and, presumably, during a session yet after decades upon decades of the main P4P business in the red light/tourist areas depending on them to "culturally adapt" to Farang customers, so many girls, bar managers, mamasans and so on still can't cut it and WE are the ones blamed for "choosing the wrong girl", "having the wrong approach", "expecting too much", "not entertaining THEM enough first", "not understanding and accepting THEIR cultural limitations properly", and on and on. LOL.
Seems to me at some point the girls, mamasans and managers entering this business as generations of them have before should have been "culturally adapting" to what Farangs want, need and expect of them regarding their behavior, attitude, demeanor, sexual activities and so on. Isn't it about time to start concluding the vast majority of times when we hear of a lousy encounter or session that it can't really be the Farang customer's fault very often anymore, that by now it must be the providers, mamasans, managers and the like who are screwing up their job by not "culturally adapting" to what WE Farangs want and not the Farang customer failing to "culturally adapt" to their ways?
Do we suppose the Japanese customers would shrug it off and blame themselves so quickly and easily when the girls they choose don't behave properly according to their "cultural" expectations? I doubt it.
Just sayin'.I think the reason for the non-adaptation to farangs and the ease of adaptation to the Japanese is that Thai in some ways are naturally prudish and conservative when it coms to sex because that is what culture has dictated to them for some time, so the shy innocent style suits them well. Pre-2014 it seemed to me that these mores had loosened a bit in the 15 years I was here at that point, with the average gal dressing and acting sexier and being overall more comfortable with expressing their sexuality. The events of the past 4 years have brought an about face to that. Sex has again been labeled as something bad, something the bad and poor people do, and everyone knows that gaining status is very important to the locals. Plus many of them think it's just gross. Really, how many Thai gals have you had that love to play with cum? Very few, if any. Most are repelled by it, even the ones that like sex.
No longer on uni campuses do you see gals in tight shirts and short skirts. Siam Sq is now the center for frumpy dresses when 5 years ago short shorts, short skirts, and belly shirts were the rule. Jeez, even in Pattaya the gals are dressing more conservatively, which is just amazing to me. Watch some Thai soaps; the gals are nice looking, but dressed conservatively, and almost completely devoid of any real sexuality. In fact, I would say frigid describes them quite well. Been to a mall lately and seen Thai dudes being dragged around by their demanding GFs? To top that off I see a lot of young handsome farang dudes (non-mongering types) with gals I would give 500 Baht for ST. And same, they are following the gal like puppy dogs and they are as whipped as can be. Just call them Mr Butter. So what the hell chance do we as over 50 mongers have? Very little to tell you the truth. And I really don't see that changing. Yes, it's out there; I had a good time in Pattaya, but it is far more work that it used to be when you could walk out of Sukhumvit and your had so many gals to choose from.
Uncle Volodya
05-21-18, 13:40
FKK vs. Thailand can be argued until we are blue in the face. Personally I was a FKK guy for 5 years making 6 trips per year but since I discovered Thailand I only visit Germany annually and I have moved to Pattaya. Imo the biggest contributing factor is whether you prefer Thai or Romanian girls. There are exceptions to the rule but imo there is no GFE from Romanian girls. Thai girls can give you the perception of a GFE.
Price wise both are comparable for a day of fun. A top gogo girl in Pattaya will run a non-expat 2000 barfine, 5000 overnight, 1000 food and snacks, 2000 drinks at gogo bar, totaling 10,000 baht per night. Add a few thousand baht if you're going to Hollywood disco. 10,000 baht in Germany would be FKK club entry and 2 girls for 1 hour. Give me the Thai girl who has just given her all for 18 hours from 9 pm until 3 pm the next day over 2 Romanians for 2 hours total. Regardless of price I know which I prefer to do for my 18 hours. FKK clubs are also extremely boring unless you're with a girl or a group of buddies.
Don't get me wrong Romanians can be beautiful but so are the TOP end Pattaya gogo girls. I'm not referring to 98% of the Thai girls you can get for a fraction of the cost.I am not as experienced in FKKs as BB but I agree completely.
Unless you really take the top shelf girls the FKK experience is comparable to finding a gem on Soi 6. But probably not even as good as almost all Soi 6 girls do BBJ, DFK (and for many even CIM) standard. You have to pay extra for these nowadays in many FKKs. Moreover, Soi 6 is much cheaper as there is no entrance fee (50-70 Euro) and a sessions only sets you back 40 Euro.
FKKs were much better about 10 years ago when they were not dominated by Romanians and before the draconian laws. I remember some amazing sessions with hot young Czech, Slovak and even German girls. Passionate DFK and heavy petting while waiting for the room, real GFE experiences in the room, and many times much DFK and hanging out after.
I am heading to Germany for work tomorrow and will do a visit to an FKK while there. I'd so much rather be heading to Patts right now.
I have 5 months left before I hit Bangkok for a 6 month trip. You guys are depressing me. Is there no hope for an old guy who just needs a quickie here and there. Maybe I'll get a condo near Lumpini LOL.
I think the reason for the non-adaptation to farangs and the ease of adaptation to the Japanese is that Thai in some ways are naturally prudish and conservative when it coms to sex because that is what culture has dictated to them for some time, so the shy innocent style suits them well. Pre-2014 it seemed to me that these mores had loosened a bit in the 15 years I was here at that point, with the average gal dressing and acting sexier and being overall more comfortable with expressing their sexuality. The events of the past 4 years have brought an about face to that. Sex has again been labeled as something bad, something the bad and poor people do, and everyone knows that gaining status is very important to the locals. Plus many of them think it's just gross. Really, how many Thai gals have you had that love to play with cum? Very few, if any. Most are repelled by it, even the ones that like sex.
No longer on uni campuses do you see gals in tight shirts and short skirts. Siam Sq is now the center for frumpy dresses when 5 years ago short shorts, short skirts, and belly shirts were the rule. Jeez, even in Pattaya the gals are dressing more conservatively, which is just amazing to me. Watch some Thai soaps; the gals are nice looking, but dressed conservatively, and almost completely devoid of any real sexuality. In fact, I would say frigid describes them quite well. Been to a mall lately and seen Thai dudes being dragged around by their demanding GFs? To top that off I see a lot of young handsome farang dudes (non-mongering types) with gals I would give 500 Baht for ST. And same, they are following the gal like puppy dogs and they are as whipped as can be. Just call them Mr Butter. So what the hell chance do we as over 50 mongers have? Very little to tell you the truth. And I really don't see that changing. Yes, it's out there; I had a good time in Pattaya, but it is far more work that it used to be when you could walk out of Sukhumvit and your had so many gals to choose from.I agree with this theory. By the age of 20 in most latin or euro cultures girls can already really fuck and a lot are downright nasty by this stage. In many latin cultures it is positively rude to knock fuck a chics ass and most beg for CIM. I really struggle in Bangkok because girls just aren't naturally into being dirty little ho's and for this reason, although I am in Asia all the time I prefer to save energy, resources and sanity by just mongering elsewhere. Of course everyone has his own preferences and opinions.
OlderMan4U
05-21-18, 15:09
That is pretty standard at most Nana bars that I know of. Complaining to the manager is a complete waste of time, they are the ones that make that policy and ensure that it is enforced.The thing is, I wasn't hassled rudely like that in other gogo's like the Rainbows I went in, nor in many other gogo's throughout Thailand. And interesting the reaction this time compared to six years ago.
I realize complaining to the manager is pretty much useless in general, but seeing as how so many people automatically ask guys whenever they have problems in a bar, "did you talk to manager," just wanted to cover my bases. He was about the worst I've come across in my years of mongering.
Ggekko2009
05-21-18, 15:39
I am not as experienced in FKKs as BB but I agree completely.
Unless you really take the top shelf girls the FKK experience is comparable to finding a gem on Soi 6. But probably not even as good as almost all Soi 6 girls do BBJ, DFK (and for many even CIM) standard. You have to pay extra for these nowadays in many FKKs. Moreover, Soi 6 is much cheaper as there is no entrance fee (50-70 Euro) and a sessions only sets you back 40 Euro.
FKKs were much better about 10 years ago when they were not dominated by Romanians and before the draconian laws. I remember some amazing sessions with hot young Czech, Slovak and even German girls. Passionate DFK and heavy petting while waiting for the room, real GFE experiences in the room, and many times much DFK and hanging out after.
I am heading to Germany for work tomorrow and will do a visit to an FKK while there. I'd so much rather be heading to Patts right now.I would say comparing FKK to destinations like Bangkok or Jakarta is like comparing apples to oranges. Each place has its pluses and minuses. I am pretty sure having intimate knowledge of the local culture and the ability to converse in local languages like Thai or German would help tremendously in one's own experience.
I hope that you have fun while you are there Uncle V, I think the weather should be nice enough over there by now.
Uncle Volodya
05-21-18, 16:47
I would say comparing FKK to destinations like Bangkok or Jakarta is like comparing apples to oranges. Each place has its pluses and minuses. I am pretty sure having intimate knowledge of the local culture and the ability to converse in local languages like Thai or German would help tremendously in one's own experience.
I hope that you have fun while you are there Uncle V, I think the weather should be nice enough over there by now.Thanks so much for he kind wishes.
Of course you are right about apples and oranges and being a local always puts you at an advantage. I imagine this is especially true in Germany,.
But if asked to choose between the two I am just presenting the rationale hat goes through my head as someone that is not a local in either location and does nto speak the language.
Steve 9696
05-21-18, 18:11
I have 5 months left before I hit Bangkok for a 6 month trip. You guys are depressing me. Is there no hope for an old guy who just needs a quickie here and there. Maybe I'll get a condo near Lumpini LOL.Don't be put off by all the jaded comments you find on forums like this. Seems the complainers always outnumber the advocates. There is PLENTY of fine young pussy available at reasinable prices. Go in positive and non-transactional and you will have a good share of excellent experiences!
Crocodilexp
05-21-18, 18:50
I would say comparing FKK to destinations like Bangkok or Jakarta is like comparing apples to oranges. Each place has its pluses and minuses.Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.
Don't be put off by all the jaded comments you find on forums like this. Seems the complainers always outnumber the advocates. There is PLENTY of fine young pussy available at reasinable prices. Go in positive and non-transactional and you will have a good share of excellent experiences!LOL I know I was being a bit facetious. I have been reading the same complaints for almost 20 years.
Starting on the old Nanaplaza Board and I have always had a good time anyway. My idea of a hot chick and a fun fuck differs from yours and I'm sure there is something for everybody.
Now I must say that there is quality pussy in an FKK. I had a great time in The FKK near Bad Hamburg outside Frankfurt, not so much in one near the French Border. But hey, pussy is pussy. And to me, after a long day of doing everyday stuff like shopping and such like, a quick stop at the BJ bar before a cocktail by myself on my balcony and an early bedtime is priceless! I don't pay them for sex I pay them to leave.
Steve 9696
05-22-18, 01:26
Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested):
1 Escort incall outcall of course.
London, Montreal, Toronto, Tokyo.
2 Bar w girls. Pay bar fine.
Bangkok, Sao Paulo, Malaga.
3 Bar w girls. No bar fine.
Shanghai?
4 Gogo w girls. Pay bar-fine.
Moscow, Bangkok.
5 Parade of Girls. One at a time intro.
Barcelona?
6 Fishbowl.
Bangkok?
7 FKK / Terma.
Frankfurt, Rio.
Of these the FKK is rather unique, with a Terma being the next closest thing. Tho there is some variance, in an FKK there is a bar and restaurant area and a sauna and often gardens and a pool and Kino at the nicer ones like Oase and Sharks. The guys may not wear street clothes. You can choose a towel or a robe. The girls are generally fully nude. Onsite rooms 50€ a half hour for the basics and some upsell from there. It is not a one and done affair. Although the most I've ever had time for was a four shot evening, some guys stay all day and eat lunch and dinner there and stay to the wee hours. Jn this respect there is nothing else like it in the world.
I have 5 months left before I hit Bangkok for a 6 month trip. You guys are depressing me. Is there no hope for an old guy who just needs a quickie here and there. Maybe I'll get a condo near Lumpini LOL.I can't speak for wild and crazy (real) porn romps since they have never been my thing. But I am getting much better conventional sexual encounters in Bangkok now than I did 25 years ago in the early/mid 1990's. I'm talking about ordinary BBFS and BBBJ+CIM (often + Swallow) kind of sex. And most of that is with go-go girls, freelancers and dating site girls, about 20% of which are also straight up freelancers and the rest regular girls claiming to look for Mr. Right.
Then again, that era was a particularly bad one for mongering in Thailand because it was the height of the HIV/Condom Condom Condom hysteria. Not so much anymore. And I can't compare my experiences today with those of 10 years ago because I didn't monger here 10 years ago.
But these days I am getting tons more of what I am into from younger and better looking girls than I got back then. I credit much of that improvement to two factors; the aforementioned tempering of the HIV/Condom hysteria (not missing entirely, just less so) and the advent of smartphones with the Line app and other means of inspiring girls to have sex with me, and good sex, in ways other than what usually transpires in a bar or shop.
Steve 9696
05-22-18, 14:32
Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested.ISG mangled my post a bit. The ones with question marks were supposed to be ones of known quantity buy asking about others.
Shanghai has great bar takeout at Manhattan Bar.
Barcelona has great girl parade at Felinas.
Bangkok has great fishbowl at Poseidon.
The question mark was for if others know of countries where this format is used to great success?
I really miss Annies massage as it was my first massage in Bangkok like 20+ years ago but also because it was on the few day massage places that display girls in Bikinis so you can see exactly what you are getting.
Does anyone care to share any current medium sized massage places that display girls in Bikinis rather than the standard dress which can hide a lot baby damage etc. ?
Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested):
1 Escort incall outcall of course.
London, Montreal, Toronto, Tokyo.
2 Bar w girls. Pay bar fine.
Bangkok, Sao Paulo, Malaga.
3 Bar w girls. No bar fine.
Shanghai?
4 Gogo w girls. Pay bar-fine.
Moscow, Bangkok.
5 Parade of Girls. One at a time intro.
Barcelona?
6 Fishbowl.
Bangkok?
7 FKK / Terma.
Frankfurt, Rio.
Of these the FKK is rather unique, with a Terma being the next closest thing. Tho there is some variance, in an FKK there is a bar and restaurant area and a sauna and often gardens and a pool and Kino at the nicer ones like Oase and Sharks. The guys may not wear street clothes. You can choose a towel or a robe. The girls are generally fully nude. Onsite rooms 50 a half hour for the basics and some upsell from there. It is not a one and done affair. Although the most I've ever had time for was a four shot evening, some guys stay all day and eat lunch and dinner there and stay to the wee hours. Jn this respect there is nothing else like it in the world.You forgot the Macau's sauna experience.
Close the a German FKK but to a far higher level of services of any kind. More pricey of course.
WarmStone25
05-24-18, 18:39
Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested):
Tho there is some variance, in an FKK there is a bar and restaurant area and a sauna and often gardens and a pool and Kino at the nicer ones like Oase and Sharks. some guys stay all day and eat lunch and dinner there and stay to the wee hours. Jn this respect there is nothing else like it in the world.I was at Sharks recently and I was told that the Kino has been closed.
WarmStone25
05-24-18, 19:23
Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.You have to take into account the cost of travel. From where I live it is 110 minutes easy flight time to Berlin. If I want to go to Bangkok I have a 1 hour flight and then a long haul flight. Another factor is whether or not you can tolerate the heat, humidity and traffic pollution of Bangkok.
Steve 9696
05-25-18, 01:16
You forgot the Macau's sauna experience.
Close the a German FKK but to a far higher level of services of any kind. More pricey of course.Ah yes Macau. On my bucket list. Been reading reports that its gone downhill some but I guess same as FKK in Germany. Not as good as it used to be. Still best thing on the planet!
On my every six months SE Asia sweat and sex extravaganza. Pretty good so far although, at least in BKK, it has just involved blowjobs, numerous blowjobs at numerous establishments. BBBJ is pretty much my favorite thing in life since I am still too chicken to try for BBFS and despite a whole cabinet full of half empty condom boxes I still haven't found one that doesn't wilt the willy about thirty seconds in the CFS. Frankly, even BBBJ's are no guarantee of success as after a half century of serious self abuse it's rapidly approaching the stage that only a hydraulically closing industrial robotic device can provide enough stimulation, so generally a hand assist is required, too often one of mine doing the job. For this I traveled thirty hours? On the brighter side, after half a century I still haven't gone blind. Robotics are really moving along, though. I'll just have to make sure the one I buy's controls are clearly marked "Squeeze" and "Cut", maybe with a padlock lockout on the latter.
But back to the present. I've been supporting Som's, Kasalong, and The Place Around The Corner Whose Name We Cannot Say (I wonder if that restriction will go away now that the ISG's credit card server is subject to change). Kasalong and Around the Corner have been unremarkable, and not really in a bad way, just really nothing to remark on. Veni, Vidi, Veni. Som's is a bit of a problem for me right now: There is a really chubby provider there, I believe about the most full-bodied provider I've ever had, who remembers me from previous visits. Yes, I could dodge her, though I generally take first in line and, let's face it, it is going to be her. A lot. No, my problem is that she provides the best blow job I've found in years. It is a bit of a dilemma: Normally one likes a certain amount of visual stimulation, and an average looker, when seen from the typical blowjob POV, can be imagined to be at least moderately hot. Somebody this large is REALLY a problem, and I generally have a pretty good imagination.
My other haunts have been the go-gos, primarily Soi Cowboy but with a couple of ventures to Nana.
I found two bars that I had somehow not visited. One, Crazy Cat, was a name change from one I hit long ago, maybe the Cocktail Club?. The other, though, was inexcusable: Somehow I had never realized the Lighthouse had dancers: I've always seen a bunch of aging farangs outside and assumed it was a standard outside bar. Holy crap, they had good music! If you are not a senior citizen YMMV. Dancers are okay, too, certainly not unfortunate to look at while rocking out to Deep Purple.
But it was bait and switch: I returned two days later and yes, they were still playing old music, but it was all easy listening. I felt like I was trapped in an elevator. More elevators should have chicks in bikinis.
Crazy Cat had some very cute girls but at least in the short time I was there they all seemed to be coyotes, though as discussed here that can be a vague term at times. Standard dancing but coyote outfits and, I believe, stockings. I would have gawked longer but out of nowhere a fifty nine year old woman sat down with me. All that eye candy and this is what I got? She didn't seem to be leaving in the near future so I tried to leave, only to be almost run over by a train of coyotes coming in for their set. I opened the curtain and POW! A set of tits in the face! I always sort of feared I'd get run over in Bangkok, but it turned out that it was not bad at all.
But things turned to the worse: I got physically assaulted a few nights ago. Okay, it wasn't a really bad assault, but I can embellish the crap out of anything, so here goes. I was walking down Soi Cowboy towards Asoke, trying to get back to my air conditioned apartment before heat exhaustion set in. The coyotes can be quite obnoxious, but I walk at about four miles an hour and just ignore them. They look elsewhere for targets, probably because I obviously have some place to be. I say "obviously" because of course everyone else is walking half or a quarter as fast, at best. I think a lot of guys discover their feminine side when walking there, dawdling along like a woman shopping versus the targeted male shopping technique. I do not, and like an Everclear drinker know where I'm going and am in a hurry to get there. This of course creates a real problem as I have to thread my way through the oozing punters and tourists plus the stationary bikini babes. One thing I've found is that since the bikinis are trying to corral people walking down the middle of the alley, they extend their lines way out from their bars, leaving a surprisingly open area behind their butts. By "open" I mean a lane just wider then I am, only occasionally punctuated by a bikini or some ass-wipe staring at a mobile phone.
I came across one of these bypass lanes somewhere around KISS and was off to the races. The bars were close on my right, the bikini butts were just inches away on my left, and the slot was closing. Tight slots are a good thing some times; this was not one of them. I was passing behind one bikini butt that was really trying to score some tourists, I believe, and was no doubt speaking at great lengths about how her bar and various parts of her body were far superior to the others' bars and body parts. She had a little plastic fan thing. It looked like a ping-pong paddle. And to make sure the tourists saw what an awesome bar she worked at she vigorously swung it back to point. And whacked its edge right into my face, particularly my nose, a nose that has really seen enough trauma already this year, what with its tip now being a former part of my forehead. It was quite a collision, possibly knocking the fan out of her hand. I didn't break stride and just walked on, later discreetly wiping my face to see if there was blood. There wasn't.
A missed opportunity: I actually thought about it at the time but was too pissed (I'm pretty much always a bit pissed walking here) to do it, but I should have stopped, grabbed my nose, still slightly asymmetrically swollen from the surgery, and turned to her, "My God! Look what you've done! Look at my nose! I'm horribly disfigured!
All that nose surgery money wasted: Might have gotten a free Coke or blow job.
I returned to Som's last night having decided that going BIG was probably the best bet. I don't know if it was since she was not around. Maybe others have decided to go big as well and she is therefore not, as I had assumed, always close to the first in the queue. I ended up with another largish provider, but large in a different way. I can best describe it as "manly", but I do NOT think she was a ladyboy, just fairly tall and broad.
It came within a couple of minutes of being a disaster. Her technique, um, sucked, and not in the good way. Just bobbing and stroking with almost no attention to the boys down below. But what was worse was the tissue and towel issue. About every three minutes she would grab a new tissue to wipe her mouth with, and use a cool wet towel to again wipe down my privates. About halfway through she even got up to rinse and re-wet the towel at the sink.
Then there was the noise issue, or really almost non-issue. I was in the middle room on the first or second floor (depending on where you're from) and was sort of the meat in a fellatio sandwich. Action was hot and heavy in both the buns, one that may have been having FS. There was noise, but really not a lot compared to some previous visits when perhaps the Bavarian yodeling team was in town. No, both punters were awesome, keeping it down, barely whispering. Not so the providers who apparently don't come with a volume control. Still nothing new. But my provider blamed the frequent lowering of the flag on the noise, not apparently noticing that it really just occurred when she was doing the tissue-towel thing. Afterwards she kept talking about it, "Yes, whenever they noise, it go down!
With the exception of one or two yodeling competitions I've never really been angry during a blow job before. By the end I was actually swearing under my breath each time I heard the tissues being drawn. Great! Now we have to start from scratch again! To add to that there was the fear of going into overtime. A few years ago I got charged double for going over thirty minutes and I've become a bit of a watch watcher there now. I had to assist to beat the buzzer.
Sorry I didn't get her name, but if some borderline manly provider there grabs you you can either run or, like some of us have had to do with mobile phones, take away her tissues and towel.
The following was enabled by information found on this forum, so I suppose, in a way, it's giving back. If only I could give as good as I got.
So, my not admittedly but actually bi-curious 21-year old non-Thai in tow (and yes I brought my own caviar to the oyster bar that is Bangkok, but bear with me), we proceed to Honey Bee Massage on Soi 22 and ask for the 120 minute couple's massage. The providers are both listed on the website, and came recommended by the sizable desk mommy as specializing in women. They gave my 21-year old such a seeing-to that after the soapy and rubdown session, and watching me go to town on them, both her first lesbian and first group experience, my 21-year old is requesting repeats and demanding nearly nightly gogo visits. This is ALL thanks to the patient, gentle, understanding, and highly competent session we received at Honey Bee. With a little hinting from me at the beginning, and a little hand-holding from me throughout, our two providers were expert guides in getting her into the mood and putting her jealousy and shyness to rest. Ya damn right I over tipped at 1 k baht to each provider plus 5,000 for the experience, but I didn't make clear at all I would do that, nor did I "upsell" what the experience would be with my girl. She knew going in it mighty be slightly skeevy, but wanted to try it to make me happy, and now SHE'S hooked.
So, +1 for the couples massage at Honey Bee. If you have someone in your life who's on the fence, you could do a lot worse than two hours in a hot tub with two of their technicians to make her firmly ravenous for threesomes.
I really miss Annies massage as it was my first massage in Bangkok like 20+ years ago but also because it was on the few day massage places that display girls in Bikinis so you can see exactly what you are getting.
Does anyone care to share any current medium sized massage places that display girls in Bikinis rather than the standard dress which can hide a lot baby damage etc. ?That is actually a very good question (for me too). I have always been a fan of places where girls wear as little as possible. So I too would like to know, if they exist, which places have reasonable girls wearing the least amount in the line up, and leaving the least amount to my imagination, preferably with see though bras (like in Shark bar). Obviously I know which bars, but which MPs have the girls in very brief underwear these days.
I like fabulous bodies, preferably not silly-cones, so the least coverage of that, the better I can choose. Obviously I could always see the faces, but that was not quite enough.
I am guessing that Chrome bar is one place, since it has taken over some of the Annies girls. Any others? To honest my memory is so dim, I can't even remember what Snow White and Mango girls are wearing these days. Probably means it was okay With it otherwise I would have remembered and complained. Obviously I hate the overdressed girls in Addict.
It came within a couple of minutes of being a disaster. Her technique, um, sucked, and not in the good way. Just bobbing and stroking with almost no attention to the boys down below. But what was worse was the tissue and towel issue. About every three minutes she would grab a new tissue to wipe her mouth with, and use a cool wet towel to again wipe down my privates. About halfway through she even got up to rinse and re-wet the towel at the sink.
Nice report, perhaps if you asked her to stop with the tissue and towel bit or tell her how you liked it, things could have been better for you as her behavior as you described is way over the top for a BJ girl.
Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.See the German FKK threads. However a quick summary (and I doubt anyone will try to do better). This is not really a comparison since you guys know Thailand already.
FKK (Frei Korper Kultur - Meaning nudity is not taboo). Guys can wear robes or towels but shorts underneath is frowned upon. FKK is a club to stay at for many hours, with an entry fee covering towels, food buffet (eat multiple times), drinks (alcoholic drinks extra), sauna etc. , see naked or nearly naked girls (depending on the club) hanging around the lounge waiting for customers, or outside in the garden, from several countries (up to 100 girls in a large club) but 80% Romanian, approach girls and do a deal, for fairly standardised pricing starting from 30 minutes and up. Each 30 minutes costs the same (unless can negotiate a special deal with girl for several hours). Girls also approach men and either side can knock the other back, for any reason or no reason. Sex on the premises. Prices are very good for short duration assignations starting at 50 Euros for 30 minutes. CIM and anal have big surcharges, so not the place for guys who want anal and value for money. Pay girl at the end of each session, but no option to withdraw payment if she was a lousy fuck.
The most unreliable or risky girls in the club are probably the German girls (least likely to be fun), but with exceptions. Black girls, latinas and Asian girls are probably the most reliable, but many men are prejudiced and don't want those types.
You will really only fully understand after try out. Suggest Shark in Darmstadt as a good place to start. Naked girls, tits, ass, and pussy on display. FKK can easily cure guys almost completely from mongering in their home country. Many Americans travel to Germany regularly for their "holidays". LOL It is a lot closer than Thailand.
If you want to spend a long duration with a girl, like 90 minutes up to several hours, you will be much better off in Thailand. If you like several 30 min or less quickies, FKK will be a good price. Guys have been known to drop as much as 1000 Euros in a day, if have no control of spending. Others could spend 100 Euros (3500 Baht I guess), being 50 for entry and 50 for one girl for 30 minutes. Normal expenditure is more than 100. So expect to spend more than in Thailand unless you are a wild spender in Thailand. BBFS is not generally available except at special small clubs known as AO clubs which are cheaper, but girls are not that good looking.
Europeans are not very shy about nudity. Usually it is Americans or muslims that are scared that someone will see their dick in the change room or showers, whether men or female staff. Normal guys don't care who sees them showering naked. Swimming in the pool is supposed to be naked only.
Now you pretty much know what a real FKK is like. I must have covered almost everything (from my perspective). Naked girls, food, drink, sex available. Plenty of girls have stunning bodies. Plenty have crappy bodies. It is a mix. Gazelles and buffaloes. Very few stunning faces, but quite a few girls better looking than average. Ignore the ugly girls. Easy! Obviously if girls were stunners head to toe, most could be working as models or some other better employ. The girls should be significantly better looking (on average) than the non-Thai hookers working in Bangkok based on what I have seen. So I have little reason to look for non-Thais in Bangkok unless they just happen to be stunning (hardly ever happens).
I have probably covered everything that matters. Wait no. Hours are typically open 11AM to close at 4am. Guys keep their belongings in lockers with key. Big locker for your bag and clothes. Small locker for your money. Clubs have wellness facilities: Sauna, Pool, massage, etc. Most clubs have a web site explaining facilities, entry fee (which does not include a girl), location, hours, etc.
Some other clubs in Germany are known as Sauna Clubs where girls are probably not fully naked.
Final point. If you happen to be in Germany, and are deprived of sex, the red light zones are a bit iffy. FKK visit would be a much better idea. My first visit to one was accidental, in that I did not know what I was going to exactly. Thinking it was a striptease or tabletop or whatever. No no, it is vastly better than those bullshit clubs. FKK cured me of a lot of other bullshit options. I first looked at the ISG on suggestion from a guy sitting next to me in an FKK club in 2005. Years before that (little web use), I hunted for Soapies in Thailand using the Thai telephone book, commercial pages. LOL
So my intro to the ISG had nothing to do with Thailand. I had many years of personal Thai experience without much guidance from anywhere before I joined ISG. Before ISG, I had never heard of Tulip, Annies, etc. and did not use Oilies at all. So ISG gave a broader mongering perspective. Without trying FKK, I might never have joined the ISG at all. Maybe I would have been better off. LOL Maybe I would still have never visited Annies or Tulip. Some of my regular girls, I might never have met.
Eszpresszo
05-26-18, 15:40
I was passing behind one bikini butt that was really trying to score some tourists, I believe, and was no doubt speaking at great lengths about how her bar and various parts of her body were far superior to the others' bars and body parts. She had a little plastic fan thing. It looked like a ping-pong paddle. And to make sure the tourists saw what an awesome bar she worked at she vigorously swung it back to point. And whacked its edge right into my face, particularly my nose, a nose that has really seen enough trauma already this year, what with its tip now being a former part of my forehead. It was quite a collision, possibly knocking the fan out of her hand.That's just what they do. Same thing happened to me when I walked past Afterskool on my first and only visit to Soi Cowboy. One of the hot girls out front whacked me on the head with one of those things when I passed her by the second time. They just do that. I was wandering around confused about where I needed to go, because I'd read there was a place on Soi Cowboy where the girls would give you a cheap HJ, which I later learned was in fact, Afterskool. However, the girls out front were too good looking for what I expected must be a low-rent dive. Again, this is my second night in Asia and I'm still getting my bearings on the surroundings. So yes, I wouldn't not have recognized a HJ bar if it hit me on the hit. Literally. No problem though, as I walked back down Suk, ran into a curvy WG who eagerly accepted 1000 without haggling and provided some excellent service back in my room. And that beat any handjob I ever had.
Ggekko2009
05-26-18, 17:15
See the German FKK threads. However a quick summary (and I doubt anyone will try to do better). This is not really a comparison since you guys know Thailand already.
FKK (Frei Korper Kultur - Meaning nudity is not taboo). Guys can wear robes or towels but shorts underneath is frowned upon. FKK is a club to stay at for many hours, with an entry fee covering towels, food buffet (eat multiple times), drinks (alcoholic drinks extra), sauna etc. , see naked or nearly naked girls (depending on the club) hanging around the lounge waiting for customers, or outside in the garden, from several countries (up to 100 girls in a large club) but 80% Romanian, approach girls and do a deal, for fairly standardised pricing starting from 30 minutes and up. Each 30 minutes costs the same (unless can negotiate a special deal with girl for several hours). Girls also approach men and either side can knock the other back, for any reason or no reason. Sex on the premises. Prices are very good for short duration assignations starting at 50 Euros for 30 minutes. CIM and anal have big surcharges, so not the place for guys who want anal and value for money. Pay girl at the end of each session, but no option to withdraw payment if she was a lousy fuck.
The most unreliable or risky girls in the club are probably the German girls (least likely to be fun), but with exceptions. Black girls, latinas and Asian girls are probably the most reliable, but many men are prejudiced and don't want those types.
You will really only fully understand after try out. Suggest Shark in Darmstadt as a good place to start. Naked girls, tits, ass, and pussy on display. FKK can easily cure guys almost completely from mongering in their home country. Many Americans travel to Germany regularly for their "holidays". LOL It is a lot closer than Thailand.
If you want to spend a long duration with a girl, like 90 minutes up to several hours, you will be much better off in Thailand. If you like several 30 min or less quickies, FKK will be a good price. Guys have been known to drop as much as 1000 Euros in a day, if have no control of spending. Others could spend 100 Euros (3500 Baht I guess), being 50 for entry and 50 for one girl for 30 minutes. Normal expenditure is more than 100. So expect to spend more than in Thailand unless you are a wild spender in Thailand. BBFS is not generally available except at special small clubs known as AO clubs which are cheaper, but girls are not that good looking.
Europeans are not very shy about nudity. Usually it is Americans or muslims that are scared that someone will see their dick in the change room or showers, whether men or female staff. Normal guys don't care who sees them showering naked. Swimming in the pool is supposed to be naked only.
Now you pretty much know what a real FKK is like. I must have covered almost everything (from my perspective). Naked girls, food, drink, sex available. Plenty of girls have stunning bodies. Plenty have crappy bodies. It is a mix. Gazelles and buffaloes. Very few stunning faces, but quite a few girls better looking than average. Ignore the ugly girls. Easy! Obviously if girls were stunners head to toe, most could be working as models or some other better employ. The girls should be significantly better looking (on average) than the non-Thai hookers working in Bangkok based on what I have seen. So I have little reason to look for non-Thais in Bangkok unless they just happen to be stunning (hardly ever happens).
I have probably covered everything that matters. Wait no. Hours are typically open 11AM to close at 4am. Guys keep their belongings in lockers with key. Big locker for your bag and clothes. Small locker for your money. Clubs have wellness facilities: Sauna, Pool, massage, etc. Most clubs have a web site explaining facilities, entry fee (which does not include a girl), location, hours, etc.
Some other clubs in Germany are known as Sauna Clubs where girls are probably not fully naked.
Final point. If you happen to be in Germany, and are deprived of sex, the red light zones are a bit iffy. FKK visit would be a much better idea. My first visit to one was accidental, in that I did not know what I was going to exactly. Thinking it was a striptease or tabletop or whatever. No no, it is vastly better than those bullshit clubs. FKK cured me of a lot of other bullshit options. I first looked at the ISG on suggestion from a guy sitting next to me in an FKK club in 2005. Years before that (little web use), I hunted for Soapies in Thailand using the Thai telephone book, commercial pages. LOL
So my intro to the ISG had nothing to do with Thailand. I had many years of personal Thai experience without much guidance from anywhere before I joined ISG. Before ISG, I had never heard of Tulip, Annies, etc. and did not use Oilies at all. So ISG gave a broader mongering perspective. Without trying FKK, I might never have joined the ISG at all. Maybe I would have been better off. LOL Maybe I would still have never visited Annies or Tulip. Some of my regular girls, I might never have met.
Great summary of FKK. I just love the European carefree attitude towards nudity and sex. Yes, Americans are just too uptight towards them. It is common to find guy and girl having sex in the open in FKK, in the Kino or cinema room, in the outdoor tent by the garden and pool. Passerbys would not even bat an eye. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. FKK is a great place to try out girls in quantity. There was a time when I had sex with seven girls in one day on the same facility and came four times which is personal record. German girls tend to be a bit distant and some of them can be pretty friendly as you get to know them. Over time I have met two that I have managed to keep regular contact via WhatsApp. Over time, I learn to speak German through them, and would contact them for good time whenever I go to Germany.
Now back to topics on the Bangkok scene which I don't have anything to contribute at this time, sorry.
This month will mark my third visit to BKK within a year. I generally stay for a couple of weeks before work calls me back home. I'm saddened to know about Annies closing down. That was the only fishbowl I knew that was close to Nana and the naughty sois. What's the new place for a good nuru / soapie? Chrome? Also, I wanted to check out Eden for a threesome with girl on girl action. Is that recommended? Or do you guys have other places I can check out?
One of the hot girls out front whacked me on the head with one of those things when I passed her by the second time. They just do that.Pretty sure this was accidental: In the corner of my eye, just before it was blacked out by a plastic fan, I saw her chatting up the tourists, then with her still facing her prey the fan came whistling back to point to the door. It could have been on purpose but if so she did a good job of it.
Nice report, perhaps if you asked her to stop with the tissue and towel bitYeah, I should have, but I was trying subtlety. A deep sigh, a bit of muttering. The problem was that she obviously took that, like the lowering of the flag, as pertaining to the (not so) noisy neighbors.
This month will mark my third visit to BKK within a year. I generally stay for a couple of weeks before work calls me back home. I'm saddened to know about Annies closing down. That was the only fishbowl I knew that was close to Nana and the naughty sois. What's the new place for a good nuru / soapie? Chrome? Also, I wanted to check out Eden for a threesome with girl on girl action. Is that recommended? Or do you guys have other places I can check out?I too am sad that Annies is no more. I just left BKK and intended to visit Chrome but although I walked past I didn't enter. There were a few decent ladies dressed in black uniform outside but I just got a call before entering the street so had to run before I could hit it.
I have been a long time visitor to the Eden club which is in the same street as Chrome, you see it half way down on the right while Chrome is all the way down on the left. I always drop by and have a beer, check out the talent and then decide to go up or not. Over the last few years I have tended to find the talent is average but it is worth dropping by and checking it out. You can have 1 beer max at the bar before you can decide to stay or go. The last few times I left but the beer was nice THB 200.
If you do find a new Annies please share here. I personally liked the fishbowl with bikini clad ladies where most soapies / oilies the ladies tend to wear dresses. I picked a lady from addict last trip who looked great in a dress but when we hit the room there was serious baby damage and a big dragon tat on her back, I don't like both. I couldn't cum on top of her so got her to roll over and jerked off on the dragon. It gave me a bit of a chuckle to think back on the fact that I actually jerked off on a dragon.
That is actually a very good question (for me too). I have always been a fan of places where girls wear as little as possible. So I too would like to know, if they exist, which places have reasonable girls wearing the least amount in the line up, and leaving the least amount to my imagination, preferably with see though bras (like in Shark bar). Obviously I know which bars, but which MPs have the girls in very brief underwear these days.
I like fabulous bodies, preferably not silly-cones, so the least coverage of that, the better I can choose. Obviously I could always see the faces, but that was not quite enough.
I am guessing that Chrome bar is one place, since it has taken over some of the Annies girls. Any others? To honest my memory is so dim, I can't even remember what Snow White and Mango girls are wearing these days. Probably means it was okay With it otherwise I would have remembered and complained. Obviously I hate the overdressed girls in Addict.I just read this after my last post. Yeah we really need a list of Soapies or Oilies where they are in bikinis. I was a bit gun shy after hitting a girl at Addict which covered a lot. Went to Poseidon afterwards and found average girls all dressed up hiding a lot. Same at Emmanulle. Past at both places.
I am interested in booking May for my next visit in Bangkok. She is an independent and has her personal website: http://www.bangkokescort.org/.
Has anybody already met her? I cannot find any recent review about her.
Too sad she does not show her face on the picture, she really looks cute.
Her review on her site are very nice but, who knows, she may have written them herself.
I returned to Som's last night having decided that going BIG was probably the best bet. I don't know if it was since she was not around. Maybe others have decided to go big as well and she is therefore not, as I had assumed, always close to the first in the queue. I ended up with another largish provider, but large in a different way. I can best describe it as "manly", but I do NOT think she was a ladyboy, just fairly tall and broad.
It came within a couple of minutes of being a disaster. Her technique, um, sucked, and not in the good way. Just bobbing and stroking with almost no attention to the boys down below. But what was worse was the tissue and towel issue. About every three minutes she would grab a new tissue to wipe her mouth with, and use a cool wet towel to again wipe down my privates. About halfway through she even got up to rinse and re-wet the towel at the sink.
Then there was the noise issue, or really almost non-issue. I was in the middle room on the first or second floor (depending on where you're from) and was sort of the meat in a fellatio sandwich. Action was hot and heavy in both the buns, one that may have been having FS. There was noise, but really not a lot compared to some previous visits when perhaps the Bavarian yodeling team was in town. No, both punters were awesome, keeping it down, barely whispering. Not so the providers who apparently don't come with a volume control. Still nothing new. But my provider blamed the frequent lowering of the flag on the noise, not apparently noticing that it really just occurred when she was doing the tissue-towel thing. Afterwards she kept talking about it, "Yes, whenever they noise, it go down!
With the exception of one or two yodeling competitions I've never really been angry during a blow job before. By the end I was actually swearing under my breath each time I heard the tissues being drawn. Great! Now we have to start from scratch again! To add to that there was the fear of going into overtime. A few years ago I got charged double for going over thirty minutes and I've become a bit of a watch watcher there now. I had to assist to beat the buzzer.
Sorry I didn't get her name, but if some borderline manly provider there grabs you you can either run or, like some of us have had to do with mobile phones, take away her tissues and towel.I passed your experience along to one of the ladies that works at Som's and she immediately knew who it was because of the tissues. As business has been slow lately and there are a lot of ladies working they were concerned about the negative review but I doubt anything will be done about it. Just avoid the tall one with broad shoulders.
... many Coyotes wear tights / stockings, but some non Coyotes do also. Covers up leg marks and scars. Topless girls or see through top girls are not Coyotes. One girl wearing G string (no tights) in Dollhouse was still described as Coyote (tits were well hidden) so what is worn below the waist seems to be a not a reliable indicator. We can say tights is a strong indicator of a likely Coyote, confirmed if the tits are well wrapped up. Tights does not mean the girl is not available for sex, but could be an indicator.
Hello there,
Have not posted here in a while. Been to Thailand 3 times before.
I thought the bra thing, annoying as it is, they have some uniform where it might be a one size for all so many girls with small tits need the padding under that to be standing on the street, plus they seem to use their real bra to keep their money and drink tickets.
About the tights / pantyhose, it is really annoying them having tights, some shorts or bikini bottoms plus panties, wtf!?
As you mentioned might be to cover scars and marks, what I don't understand is why is it only in Soi Cowboy that has girl wearing tights. Otherwise I have been only in Nana, and Phuket on go-gos and I have not really seen girls wearing tights, so what gives? Is it really those wearing who are not available for take out?
I might go down to Pattaya on the slow season, let's see if I got any stuff to report.
Just avoid the tall one with broad shoulders.That's my standard rule in LOS.
Hey everyone,
Due to arrival flight times for my upcoming visit, I won't be able to leave the hotel before 1 am after checking in. Maybe even closer to 1:30 am. Luckily I'm staying close to Cowboy.
Can I ask what you top spots to hit right away would be at this hour? From memory Soi Cowboy bars will be open until 2 am, but pickings will be slim at that time.
If Nana also closes at 2 I doubt there would be time to get down to any bars in the ent plaza, at least not without a big rush to get there and probably only 15 min left on the clock once inside.
I used to hit clubs after-hours but lately have started early / finished early. Would love to get suggestions of how best to stay in the game in BKK when making a late start.
Thanks guys.
I don't know why, but I am finding myself to be targeted more for scams and hearing visiting tourists who were targeted but totally clueless. I suspect it is my generation but it is a real downer. Knock on wood, no damages or big loses. You know many go to BKK for cosmetic surgery? You could get the nose fixed. LOL
And whacked its edge right into my face, particularly my nose, a nose that has really seen enough trauma already this year, what with its tip now being a former part of my forehead. It was quite a collision, possibly knocking the fan out of her hand. I didn't break stride and just walked on, later discreetly wiping my face to see if there was blood. There wasn't.
You know many go to BKK for cosmetic surgery? You could get the nose fixed. LOLThat's it! She was a real entrepreneur! Getting lady drinks at the bar and a kickback on referrals to The Asoke House of Cheap Plastic Fans and Rhinoplasty (Motto: No matter how bad the nose ends up looking, there is always a happy ending!
Hi guys,
I am coming to Thailand for only 1 night as Transit, I will stay for only 1 night, 18 hours to be exact.
This is my 1st time but it will not be the last for sure, my question is where to go, I feel lost as I knew it is the capital of sex in Asia.
Do you recommend a place for stay, message and sex of course also is fair in prices, I just need to know where to go and spend good money for a night of pleasure and not to waste time looking and searching.
Thanks in advance, I will share my experience of course so wish me luck.
Happy hunting every one.
Regards,
Falhooos.
Hi guys,
I am coming to Thailand for only 1 night as Transit, I will stay for only 1 night, 18 hours to be exact.
This is my 1st time but it will not be the last for sure, my question is where to go, I feel lost as I knew it is the capital of sex in Asia.
Do you recommend a place for stay, message and sex of course also is fair in prices, I just need to know where to go and spend good money for a night of pleasure and not to waste time looking and searching.
Thanks in advance, I will share my experience of course so wish me luck.
Happy hunting every one.
Regards,
Falhooos.I have many time a stopover in Bangkok. Last time I arrived in the airport 05.00 pm. I was in a hotel on Soi 8, Sukhumvit Road, at 07.30 pm. I got a little to eat and go to Bamboo Bkk. There I ask for a girl for the night. 5 girls was ready to go with me. I choice a very nice one. 33 years old but a really good body and a nice face. We had a great night. Did not sleep much. Up 6 am and take a taxi to airport. Take off 9 am. A great stop over.
If you want to try different thing you can do that. Go to a blowjob bar. Take a massage. Take a FL. Everything is up to you.
Hi guys,
I am coming to Thailand for only 1 night as Transit, I will stay for only 1 night, 18 hours to be exact.
This is my 1st time but it will not be the last for sure, my question is where to go, I feel lost as I knew it is the capital of sex in Asia.
Do you recommend a place for stay, message and sex of course also is fair in prices, I just need to know where to go and spend good money for a night of pleasure and not to waste time looking and searching.
Thanks in advance, I will share my experience of course so wish me luck.
Happy hunting every one.
Regards,
Falhooos.What time do you land?
Best is to book an hotel in lower sukhumvit.
Depending on your budget plenty of choices from soi 4 to 10/11.
Don't book girls in advance, you should have time enough to select.
To make your life easy leave the main luggage at the airport. They have a "left baggage" place in both arrival (close to the escalators) and to door 7 at departure (go past th e check in's, 100 baht a day per piece).
Take a taxi, offer to pay highway toll, a mere 300 baht, more or less, will take to town. There is a 50 overcharge for airport departures.
Enjoy.
Thanks. I'm landing at 11:40 pm. Pretty familiar with getting to Sukhumvit from airport, and sorry I should've probably phrased my question better. What I'm really interested in is the best post-2 am options these days for quality?
I don't Generally pick up SW, but freelancers at a club is fine.
I assume both cowboy and nana go gos are going to close up at 2 am.
I know I can get in well before 2 am (probably just after 1) but would like a good plan for after.
I see spasso closes 2 am also (I think). I'm staying near terminal 21.
Any recommendations appreciated.
What time do you land?
Best is to book an hotel in lower sukhumvit.
Depending on your budget plenty of choices from soi 4 to 10/11.
Don't book girls in advance, you should have time enough to select.
To make your life easy leave the main luggage at the airport. They have a "left baggage" place in both arrival (close to the escalators) and to door 7 at departure (go past th e check in's, 100 baht a day per piece).
Take a taxi, offer to pay highway toll, a mere 300 baht, more or less, will take to town. There is a 50 overcharge for airport departures.
Enjoy.
I have many time a stopover in Bangkok. Last time I arrived in the airport 05.00 pm. I was in a hotel on Soi 8, Sukhumvit Road, at 07.30 pm. I got a little to eat and go to Bamboo Bkk. There I ask for a girl for the night. 5 girls was ready to go with me. I choice a very nice one. 33 years old but a really good body and a nice face. We had a great night. Did not sleep much. Up 6 am and take a taxi to airport. Take off 9 am. A great stop over.
If you want to try different thing you can do that. Go to a blowjob bar. Take a massage. Take a FL. Everything is up to you.Thanks really, but what about the prices range?
Regards,
Falhooos.
What time do you land?
Best is to book an hotel in lower sukhumvit.
Depending on your budget plenty of choices from soi 4 to 10/11.
Don't book girls in advance, you should have time enough to select.
To make your life easy leave the main luggage at the airport. They have a "left baggage" place in both arrival (close to the escalators) and to door 7 at departure (go past th e check in's, 100 baht a day per piece).
Take a taxi, offer to pay highway toll, a mere 300 baht, more or less, will take to town. There is a 50 overcharge for airport departures.
Enjoy.Hi,
I am landing at 4 P. M and leaving at 10 A. M next morning, that's why I just don't want to waste time, but what about the prices range, I have no idea.
Regards,
Falhooos.
What time do you land?
Best is to book an hotel in lower sukhumvit.
Depending on your budget plenty of choices from soi 4 to 10/11.
Don't book girls in advance, you should have time enough to select.
To make your life easy leave the main luggage at the airport. They have a "left baggage" place in both arrival (close to the escalators) and to door 7 at departure (go past th e check in's, 100 baht a day per piece).
Take a taxi, offer to pay highway toll, a mere 300 baht, more or less, will take to town. There is a 50 overcharge for airport departures.
Enjoy.I will land around 4:30 P. M and leave next morning around 10 A. M, I am very curios about the price range for girls in these places for the full night.
Regards, Falhooos.
Thanks really, but what about the prices range?
Regards,
Falhooos.Just keep reading page after page on this forum or use the search option. You will find the answers to your price question.
I'll give you a hint, it's cheaper than you think.
Robert Long
05-31-18, 07:05
Hey everyone,
Due to arrival flight times for my upcoming visit, I won't be able to leave the hotel before 1 am after checking in. Maybe even closer to 1:30 am. Luckily I'm staying close to Cowboy.
Can I ask what you top spots to hit right away would be at this hour? From memory Soi Cowboy bars will be open until 2 am, but pickings will be slim at that time.
If Nana also closes at 2 I doubt there would be time to get down to any bars in the ent plaza, at least not without a big rush to get there and probably only 15 min left on the clock once inside.
I used to hit clubs after-hours but lately have started early / finished early. Would love to get suggestions of how best to stay in the game in BKK when making a late start.
Thanks guys.Download WeChat, click on Discover, and then People nearby. Your phone will populate with all the ladies in the area. You can chat them up and most will be at a meeting place within an hour. There are LB's so you must ask. They will tell you if they are.
Good luck.
RL.
IMHO, you should try to check your luggage through if you can and get a boarding pass. Things are constantly changing so I am not sure if you can do that. Just use carry on and roller and buy what you need that is not allowed as carry on or mail ahead. I always watch out for construction and other things that will affect the traffic on the way back to the airport. I always keep the train as a backup plan as it is somewhat more reliable in terms of getting back to the airport. I only took it once because of protests. I tried staying out by the airport but girls don't like going that far.
Hi,
I am landing at 4 P. M and leaving at 10 A. M next morning, that's why I just don't want to waste time, but what about the prices range, I have no idea.
Regards,
Falhooos.
I will land around 4:30 P. M and leave next morning around 10 A. M, I am very curios about the price range for girls in these places for the full night.
Regards, Falhooos.Look at 2/2500 baht for LT.
Don't start you hunt before 7/8 pm but don't wait too long as the best birds often are taken early.
Thanks. I'm landing at 11:40 pm. Pretty familiar with getting to Sukhumvit from airport, and sorry I should've probably phrased my question better. What I'm really interested in is the best post-2 am options these days for quality?
I don't Generally pick up SW, but freelancers at a club is fine.
I assume both cowboy and nana go gos are going to close up at 2 am.
I know I can get in well before 2 am (probably just after 1) but would like a good plan for after.
I see spasso closes 2 am also (I think). I'm staying near terminal 21.
Any recommendations appreciated.Pick un girls leaving the clubs / bars when they close, try we chat option, but you will loose all the chemistry check.
Sorry, I just want to ask about the hotel policies if I want to have guests in my room, do they charge extra fees to allow of its OK, and what hotels you guys recommend in lower Sukhumvit regarding visitors visiting you in your room.
Thanks again, cheers, Falhooos.
Wolvenvacht
05-31-18, 16:43
Brothers of the Mongering Persuasion!
Some time ago (a few years?) I read about a barber shop in Bangkok where not only your hair was cut, but they provided a "happy ending" too. Try as I might I could not trace back that post. It may even have been on another forum and it was quite some time ago anyhow, so the info then provided is probably stale by now.
Anybody any idea where that place was? And if so, does it still exist? All info is welcome.
Wolvenvacht.
Thanks really, but what about the prices range?
Regards,
Falhooos.5.000 baht for 12 hour, 9 pm to 9 am.
Sorry, I just want to ask about the hotel policies if I want to have guests in my room, do they charge extra fees to allow of its OK, and what hotels you guys recommend in lower Sukhumvit regarding visitors visiting you in your room.
Thanks again, cheers, Falhooos.Practically all hotels in lower sukhumvit are GF.
Some time ago (a few years?) I read about a barber shop in Bangkok where not only your hair was cut, but they provided a "happy ending" too. I have to chuckle, Wolfie. This was common on Korea in the 80's. GIs like me would get a haircut every other day!
Was it Ann at friend's? Always wanted to go as well.
Brothers of the Mongering Persuasion!
Some time ago (a few years?) I read about a barber shop in Bangkok where not only your hair was cut, but they provided a "happy ending" too. Try as I might I could not trace back that post. It may even have been on another forum and it was quite some time ago anyhow, so the info then provided is probably stale by now.
Anybody any idea where that place was? And if so, does it still exist? All info is welcome.
Wolvenvacht.
Steve 9696
06-01-18, 00:54
Sorry, I just want to ask about the hotel policies if I want to have guests in my room, do they charge extra fees to allow of its OK, and what hotels you guys recommend in lower Sukhumvit regarding visitors visiting you in your room.
Thanks again, cheers, Falhooos.Go to bargirlfriendly.com. They cover a bunch of cities. Presumably Bangkok.
Banana Boi
06-01-18, 08:54
IMHO, you should try to check your luggage through if you can and get a boarding pass. Things are constantly changing so I am not sure if you can do that. Just use carry on and roller and buy what you need that is not allowed as carry on or mail ahead. I always watch out for construction and other things that will affect the traffic on the way back to the airport. I always keep the train as a backup plan as it is somewhat more reliable in terms of getting back to the airport. I only took it once because of protests. I tried staying out by the airport but girls don't like going that far.Luggage can be stored at the Airpotel at Suvarnabhumi airport for 100 baht per piece per day. I believe there is an Airportel at DMK as well.
https://www.airportels.asia/services/luggage-storage-suvarnabhumi/
Brothers of the Mongering Persuasion!
Anybody any idea where that place was? And if so, does it still exist? All info is welcome.
Wolvenvacht.20+ years ago, there was a shop like you asked about that was on Sukhumvit in the neighborhood of Soi 13/15. No idea if it's still there.
SS.
James Dean 2
06-01-18, 11:25
Brothers of the Mongering Persuasion!
Some time ago (a few years?) I read about a barber shop in Bangkok where not only your hair was cut, but they provided a "happy ending" too. Try as I might I could not trace back that post. It may even have been on another forum and it was quite some time ago anyhow, so the info then provided is probably stale by now.
Anybody any idea where that place was? And if so, does it still exist? All info is welcome.
Wolvenvacht.Sorry, not very helpful for Bangkok, but I have seen a few of these in Saigon if you head over. Called Hot Tocs. The Saigon board has a lot of info.
Sorry, not very helpful for Bangkok, but I have seen a few of these in Saigon if you head over. Called Hot Tocs. The Saigon board has a lot of info.Years ago there was such on Soi 33. Forgot the name. Either moved or out of business. Ask along the Soi. Someone might recall or suggest a new place.
NewbExcited
06-01-18, 18:16
Sorry, I just want to ask about the hotel policies if I want to have guests in my room, do they charge extra fees to allow of its OK, and what hotels you guys recommend in lower Sukhumvit regarding visitors visiting you in your room.
Thanks again, cheers, Falhooos.I stayed at Park Plaza and Four Points without checking their policy on visitors. However, there were never any questions asked when I had a girl come up to my room. I had the receptionist call to check on me after the girl left at Park Plaza while I walked with the girl to my room through the lobby at Four Points.
Some of these hotels are huge with busy lobbies, especially when they have a restaurant. It is impossible for the staff to keep an eye on every visitor and charge you extra or object to guests.
20+ years ago, there was a shop like you asked about that was on Sukhumvit in the neighborhood of Soi 13/15. No idea if it's still there.
SS.I would suggest go in to the hair dresser shops on Soi 23 and ask. I have never been in (they look too suss close to Sukhumvit) but I would be surprised if there was no funny business going on. LOL.
Beauty salons between Soi 3 and Soi 7 are sure to have naughty stuff going on, however, its mostly ladyboys in the shops so I would not try it. Same could apply to shops in Soi 4. At your own risk!
Lastly, do you get your hair cut in Bacarra? You probably could, but why? Similarly why get naughty stuff in a hair dresser, it makes no sense. I don't even want a massage when I go into an oily, unless it is a "no hands" sexy massage, let alone a hair cut. I shave my face carefully before I get there, so as to ensure no pussy scratching.
I assume both cowboy and nana go gos are going to close up at 2 am.
I know I can get in well before 2 am (probably just after 1) but would like a good plan for after.
This is not my time of night, so others are better to comment on discos. You are right pickings at bars will be slim. Best girls already gone. Crazy House may close later than 2 AM. Keeps changing depending on crack down levels. I certainly have taken bar girls at 1. 30 AM, especially in your situation or I knew the girl already.
Street Walkers does become an option, a cheap and nasty one. I did not meet many worth repeating, for looks, fun, and service.
Crocodilexp
06-01-18, 19:49
Some time ago (a few years?) I read about a barber shop in Bangkok where not only your hair was cut, but they provided a "happy ending" too. Try as I might I could not trace back that post. It may even have been on another forum and it was quite some time ago anyhow, so the info then provided is probably stale by now.
Anybody any idea where that place was? And if so, does it still exist? All info is welcome.I remember being offered extra services for 1000 baht at a fairly normal-looking barber shop on Sutthisan road (on the main road near Sutthisan Soi 3, across the T-DED99 bar). Was looking for a haircut, so didn't partake or inquire about which specific services were on offer. Closest BTS station is Saphan Kwai, the barber shop is in a Thai-oriented naughty bar area. If I remember right, this was around 2010 or so -- not ancient history, but not recent either, given how nightlife has declined. I have walked by about a year ago, and the shop seems to still be in operation, but no idea if they still offer any specials.
Previous days report are in the Pattaya forum.
Late on Day 3 of Trip:
If you've been reading my posts this far, you've probably noted that my trip report isn't really full of any serious exploration or account of go-gos, beer bars etc. What can I say. My friend and I came for this short trip to Thailand simply to get in as much sex as we could with minimal effort and within a budget. Loud places, expensive drink prices and presumably thus expensive girls were not to our taste. Far easier to set things up online, make the checks and verification you may want to make, and call a girl over to you. So at 1 AM in Bangkok that's what we did. We were at Like Sukhumvit 22, a brilliant place far, far better than what I imagined. I'll put a full review of it separately in Bangkok Hotels forum. In booking a room there, I was looking for an apartment type of place where there were two private bedrooms. The idea being that my friend and I could stay in the same 'room' and yet have our own private places for sexy time. Like Sukhumvit 22 provided this beautifully.
We'the been eyeing the ladies on Smooci for weeks leading up to this trip, and now we took a premium membership so that we could call the ladies for just an hour- the cost of premium membership, $10, was far less than the extra money we would pay for ladies if we did not take the membership and thus paid for 2 hours minimum. Given that we booked two different ladies from the same account, we got a call to find out what was happening. The agent was clearly worried that I was trying to set up a threesome. I assured him that we were two different people with separate bedrooms, and had no intention other than having our own one-on-ones.
Now you've got to be quite careful on Smooci. Many ladies are clearly older even in the pictures than what they're claiming on the site. Knowing this well, I still chose a lady I suspected would be older than what the photos and listing suggested. I chose her because she had photos in a nurse costume and hey, why not indulge in that fantasy too. So I called her for 1 hour, requesting for the nurse costume in special instructions. She claimed the age of 27 on the website, looked early 30's in photos, but was much closer to 40 in person. Further, since she was 'out with friends and came from there directly' she did not carry the nurse costume as requested. Well aware of her age deceit, and probably guilty about the costume as well, she was quite eager to please and keep me happy- frequently mentioning that she didn't want me to give a bad review.
Thus there was a lot of massaging and a lot of BJ, but when it moved to fuck time I found there was no kissing at all. This, and not really the age and non-costume, bummed me out a bit and poor johnny was unable to hold up. So I decided to use her eagerness to please to my advantage and took some leisure time- a nice, solid full body massage and something that's a great pleasure for me- just lying there and having a smoke while the lady sucks me off. At this point she brought out some strawberry flavored gel from her purse and rubbed dollops of that around my crotchal region. This was followed by a decent, leisurely BJ that eventually did yield. Once again asking me whether I was happy and would give a good review, she cleaned up and left. This brought a tiring day to a welcome end.
Day 4, 20th May. Final Day:
My excuses for being a lazy-just-get-the-girl-to-my-room type of Thailand tourist have been made above. My flight out of Thailand is tonight at 11 PM, and I'm tired from the previous days of sexual activity, beer, walking and swimming. My friend needs to go for a round of shopping, and while I initially intend to accompany him I eventually opt to stay back- especially since the girl I had as my option 1 on Smooci was finally online. I called her for 1 hour again, thinking I'the negotiate more time with her if she was good, and boy was she! Exactly as depicted in the photos- young, tall, slender and thin- basically the same body as this ex I had who was the best fuck of my life. I called this girl despite a 3. 7 average score on Smooci. The actual reviews indicated that mileage with her varied and the photos were true.
Her attitude was great and personable from the start, and I love it if the girl drinks and smokes with me- which she did. So we took our time showering, drinking and conversing. Here's one thing I do on my mongering trips- I look for and buy a sexy / slutty costume or piece of lingerie and bring it with me on the trip. This I present unopened to a girl if I decide she's worth it. This girl, with her perfect body, was worthy of the glittering green two-piece bikini I bought for this trip. So after the shower I asked her to get into it and she obliged with great delight, especially when I told her that this was hers now. So there I am, with my perfect body in my chosen clothing with my desired amiability. Great fuck in all positions, no inhibitions in kissing and passion, so a complete GFE. I extended her till an hour before I had to leave for the airport, and paid her a little extra because she was so good. Took her number so I can contact her outside Smooci too if I like, and found out she has a friend working in a spa here in Gurgaon, India! Love it.
That then was the end of my Thailand trip, and soon I was on the plane back to India thinking of the next time I could save up money for such a trip- next time ideally a bit longer.
Sorry, I just want to ask about the hotel policies if I want to have guests in my room, do they charge extra fees to allow of its OK, and what hotels you guys recommend in lower Sukhumvit regarding visitors visiting you in your room.
Thanks again, cheers, Falhooos.I stayed in 3 different hotels earlier this year on Sukhumvit Soi 2. All were guest friendly, no additional charges. Surestay Hotel, though lots of families there; Hotel Solo, and Aspen Suites more adult. Surestay and Solo the nicest. I also know that the Rembrandt Towers, around Soi 20 allows guests for free, since I just sent an email and asked.
If you're near Soi 2, make sure you go to The Mexican, just off the soi next to Annie's Soapy Massage. Great food, owner, pool, drinks. It ain't cheap, but it's a slice of heaven before hitting crazy Nana Plaza at the other end of the alley it's on. No bargirls in this place, though you can take a well-dressed date there, if you want.
Enjoy your trip.
The following was enabled by information found on this forum, so I suppose, in a way, it's giving back. If only I could give as good as I got.
So, my not admittedly but actually bi-curious 21-year old non-Thai in tow (and yes I brought my own caviar to the oyster bar that is Bangkok, but bear with me), we proceed to Honey Bee Massage on Soi 22 and ask for the 120 minute couple's massage. The providers are both listed on the website, and came recommended by the sizable desk mommy as specializing in women. They gave my 21-year old such a seeing-to that after the soapy and rubdown session, and watching me go to town on them, both her first lesbian and first group experience, my 21-year old is requesting repeats and demanding nearly nightly gogo visits. This is ALL thanks to the patient, gentle, understanding, and highly competent session we received at Honey Bee. With a little hinting from me at the beginning, and a little hand-holding from me throughout, our two providers were expert guides in getting her into the mood and putting her jealousy and shyness to rest. Ya damn right I over tipped at 1 k baht to each provider plus 5,000 for the experience, but I didn't make clear at all I would do that, nor did I "upsell" what the experience would be with my girl..That's good to know. I'm heading back in July with my wife and will definitely check out Honey Bee.
Brothers of the Mongering Persuasion!
Some time ago (a few years?) I read about a barber shop in Bangkok where not only your hair was cut, but they provided a "happy ending" too. Try as I might I could not trace back that post. It may even have been on another forum and it was quite some time ago anyhow, so the info then provided is probably stale by now.
Anybody any idea where that place was? And if so, does it still exist? All info is welcome.
Wolvenvacht.Sounds like Lisa's on Soi 19. Recently taken over by Lotus expanding from next door.
There was a well know barber shop with extras on Sukhumvit Soi 11 years ago but I'm sure it is closed now. It was on Soi 11 right at the entrance to the sub-Soi that used to have Sabai Sabai massage and Charley Brown's Mexican Restaurant in it. It was a clean, two story place with a lot of windows. Extras were provided on the second floor. I only got an HJ or BJ there but more was on the menu.
Doing a one-nighter in BKK and I'm torn on whether I should stay new Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza. I've been consuming all the info I can, and they both sound worth a look, but with only one night, what's the best bang for my buck (pun partially intended)?
Doing a one-nighter in BKK and I'm torn on whether I should stay new Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza. I've been consuming all the info I can, and they both sound worth a look, but with only one night, what's the best bang for my buck (pun partially intended)?It depends on your monger plan; If this is your first trip you should try both places. Start early, 6-7 PM with drinks outside Nana Plaza. Check out the popular bars in Nana from 9-10 PM onwards Then go to main street and take a taxi to Soi Cowboy. It will take you 5 minutes. If you are "falang" choose the best suited bars like Shark, Dollshouse, Crazy House, Long Gun, Rawhide, Tilac and choose your little honey. In my opinion both Nana and Cowboy are good and no big difference in girls quality or prices if you stick to the popular bars (read this forum). If you find the prices too high try the Hillary bars near Nana Plaza for freelancers.
Doing a one-nighter in BKK and I'm torn on whether I should stay new Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza. I've been consuming all the info I can, and they both sound worth a look, but with only one night, what's the best bang for my buck (pun partially intended)?You don't say if you are Western guy or Indian or Japanese. That makes it harder to advise. You don't say if you like silicones and fake noses and Thai girls trying to look western, skinny or voluptuous, etc. Looks or price oriented?
I would suggest try an Oily massage early like 7 PM, then bars later. Stay close to Soi Cowboy (better for getting to massage joints). Nana is not far at all. Very quick on motorcycle, if too lazy to walk.
At Nana try Billboard if you like slim models. Bangkok Bunnies for more surgeries and thicker girls. In Cowboy I like Doll House (skinny Coyotes), Shark, and Crazy House (for full naked girls) (but that is personal preference). You can't afford to waste time visiting all bars. Baccara if you like surgeries girls. Yes you can check out both Nana and Cowboy in one night, just be selective about bars to try.
There was a Chinese grub.
Place on Suk Soi 17 I think, can't recall the name but I started eating there 15 years ago. Is it still there? Corner joint, no A/C?
You don't say if you are Western guy or Indian or Japanese.I think this makes all the difference in the world. These types of guys like completely different things.
Thanks gents. Not the first time to girly / gogos, but first time in Thailand, so that's very useful info. 100% Western whitey here. Prefer the more thin / natural types. Thanks for the input, it's helping me narrow things down a bit, and the club names are super useful!
Third visit to the big mango coming up. Annie's is done. What options should I be looking at for oilies?
Also anyone recently tried out Eden club? I'm getting mixed reviews. Is it worth checking out? The goal this time is to get with two women that are willing to go down on each other and be bi with me.
Luggage can be stored at the Airpotel at Suvarnabhumi airport for 100 baht per piece per day. I believe there is an Airportel at DMK as well.
https://www.airportels.asia/services/luggage-storage-suvarnabhumi/You are right, B Boi! Airportels do have luggage and delivery services at BKK and DMK airports. In the city, they have outlets at Terminal 21 and MBK malls. They ship the luggages to one's hotels from airpots and from these outlets they deliver at respective airports as well.
Dickaprio.
Banana Boi
06-02-18, 22:53
Doing a one-nighter in BKK and I'm torn on whether I should stay new Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza. I've been consuming all the info I can, and they both sound worth a look, but with only one night, what's the best bang for my buck (pun partially intended)?No gogo bar is the best bang for your buck but if you want the most convenient way to pick up generally the hottest overall group of girls the top gogo bars are the avenue you should take. The other options are thermae and thaniya road. Imo the best gogo bars in Bangkok are rainbow in nana and king's castle 1 in patpong.
No gogo bar is the best bang for your buck but if you want the most convenient way to pick up generally the hottest overall group of girls the top gogo bars are the avenue you should take. The other options are thermae and thaniya road. Imo the best gogo bars in Bangkok are rainbow in nana and king's castle 1 in patpong.Thermae has been a Japanese trap for a long time, unless that all changed. The girls didn't used to look at non Japanese inside before. But they would in the street after closing. If the Beergarden on Soi 7 is still open then that is great value, but there are few younger ladies. Good place to make friends though. My favourite gogos are Long Gun (Lucky Star) on Cowboy (not owned by "the Man from Iran" and Rawhide (now half owned by him, but they still didn't rip you off last time I was there). Tilac is good if you don't mind the girls wearing clothes. Some of the bars will just load your bill, so check it regularly. Suzi Wong's is worth a look as is Crazy house on Soi 23. Five Star seems to have been taken over and ruined. The band had gone last time I looked. But I didn't stay long.
In Nana Angelwitch is always worth a look. Some of the smaller bars have some cute girls that don't get taken much, but I am more a Cowboy person. I haven't been to Patpong for years. But best not to go upstairs. If you want to see pussy show and ping pong then go to the other bars I mention (long gun particularly although since the coup a lot has changed). The tourist agogo's in Patpong are decent sometimes, but as I said I don't venture there much.
Have fun,
JS.
Hey everyone,
Due to arrival flight times for my upcoming visit, I won't be able to leave the hotel before 1 am after checking in. Maybe even closer to 1:30 am. Luckily I'm staying close to Cowboy.
Can I ask what you top spots to hit right away would be at this hour? From memory Soi Cowboy bars will be open until 2 am, but pickings will be slim at that time.
If Nana also closes at 2 I doubt there would be time to get down to any bars in the ent plaza, at least not without a big rush to get there and probably only 15 min left on the clock once inside.
I used to hit clubs after-hours but lately have started early / finished early. Would love to get suggestions of how best to stay in the game in BKK when making a late start.
Thanks guys.1:30 am is really too late to go to Coybow / Nana in my opinion. Best bet for finding a very attractive girl is one of three places: Insanity, MIXX, and Levels. I have really enjoyed my last few visits to Levels and think the girls there are actually more attractive than the first two. There is also a slightly higher mix of regular girls there as well.
ARyan1909M
06-03-18, 05:09
Hi all,
Is there any reviews on Anchalee at Bangkok: http://anchaleebangkok.com/.
I find her pics hot put wanted to get some reviews on her.
Years back Eden Club used to offer two girls back to your hotel for all night until 8 am the next day. Looking on their website now I cannot see this offer- does anyone know if it is still possible? Also where else can I find a threesome in BKK, l don't want to just pick two random girls with no chemistry, would prefer seek out providers who specialise in it and are bi-sexual.
There was a Chinese grub.
Place on Suk Soi 17 I think, can't recall the name but I started eating there 15 years ago. Is it still there? Corner joint, no A/C?Corner of soi 15. Yes, it is still there.
Corner of soi 15. Yes, it is still there.Damn if it's the same folks that own it LOL they are truly old. Great food.
Years back Eden Club used to offer two girls back to your hotel for all night until 8 am the next day. Looking on their website now I cannot see this offer- does anyone know if it is still possible? Also where else can I find a threesome in BKK, l don't want to just pick two random girls with no chemistry, would prefer seek out providers who specialise in it and are bi-sexual.If you are not trophy hunting and want good service and real lesbian action I would recommend Tulip. I have had about 8-10 sessions with 6 different ladies over the years and all have been very good to exceptional. I normally book Ying and tell her what I want and have her choose a suitable lady that is available that day. You might want to stop by the shop and see if the ladies meet your specs before committing as they tend to be a bit older. One downside with using the shop is the bed is too small for 3 people. I have had a couple of not too memorable experiences at Eden a few years back and some excellent ones at Mango and Bongkot. However, Bongkot is no longer in business and I haven't been to Mango for years.
NewbExcited
06-04-18, 04:41
Doing a one-nighter in BKK and I'm torn on whether I should stay new Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza. I've been consuming all the info I can, and they both sound worth a look, but with only one night, what's the best bang for my buck (pun partially intended)?I enjoyed bars at both Nana plaza and Soi Cowboy. It's a tough decision to choose only one and it depends on your personal taste. Nana with it's fluorescent lights looks a bit cheesy while Soi Cowboy is a narrow street with plenty of bars. I found girls at bars in Soi Cowboy to be prettier but it depends on your personal taste.
You won't go wrong with either place. Have fun!
However, Bongkot is no longer in business and I haven't been to Mango for years.I went past Mango on Soi 24/1 last week and it was closed, they say it is temporary but who knows.
I went past Mango on Soi 24/1 last week and it was closed, they say it is temporary but who knows.Its presently closed for renovation and from what I understand should be open within the next week or so.
Thermae has been a Japanese trap for a long time, unless that all changed. The girls didn't used to look at non Japanese inside before. But they would in the street after closing. If the Beergarden on Soi 7 is still open then that is great value, but there are few younger ladies. Good place to make friends though. My favourite gogos are Long Gun (Lucky Star) on Cowboy (not owned by "the Man from Iran" and Rawhide (now half owned by him, but they still didn't rip you off last time I was there). Tilac is good if you don't mind the girls wearing clothes. Some of the bars will just load your bill, so check it regularly. Suzi Wong's is worth a look as is Crazy house on Soi 23. Five Star seems to have been taken over and ruined. The band had gone last time I looked. But I didn't stay long.
Five Star is now owned by the same people that operate Crazy House, I'm told. The old Five Star was something different in Cowboy, a cool quirky bar with live music. Never had many people, so I understand new owners want to try a different set-up. But another chrome bar with average ladies and "car alarm music" is really not what Cowboy needs right now. The street lacks diversity; it should have more themed bars IMO. Owners need to make a profit but why is there such a lack of inventions and new ideas? Sad really. I guess some of it is related to the "Iran" guy how run his bars for money laundry only. For customers to the area it is just a waste of space since it does not appeal to the hardcore mongers nor to the curious tourists. So who is it for. Since there are no people inside, just a bunch of girls on the outside? The old Climax is surely missed; the discos like Insanity, Levels etc. Just do not do it for me (maybe to old. ? The Hillary bars are Ok, but a tad too small. Any news on the street that Climax will reopen on another location? It was a perfect pick-up place with tons of freelancers.
Hey fellow mongers.
I have been to BKK about 10 times to exercise our hobby but never to Manila.
I am considering a hobby trip of about 10 days. Milion dollar question: Manila or BKK?
Your feedback is much appreciated. Feel free to drop a PM or share your feedback with everyone in the Forum.
/ Kirsia!
Corner of soi 15. Yes, it is still there.Its called Yong Lee (rising tone). Very cheap but nothing special. I gave it away years ago, maybe because something started to annoy me about the Chinese attitude (that reminded me of Hong Kong). Does not have an overly friendly vibe. LOL Chinese culture and manners are very different to Thai. Anyway cheap and a bit nasty sums it up. A friend first took me to Yong Lee in 1991. Back then, even girls from the Thermae Soapy or Cafe would sometimes eat there (due to price and speed). It never changed much. Some staff members were very old (like 70+), so surely some must have croaked it by now. Maybe something to do with losing my wallet getting out of a taxi before a visit to Yong Lee . I think the girl may have had to pay the bill. LOL Lucky it was a small bill. Later I got back my wallet and cards (minus the cash). I don't believe I was pick pocketed. Just failed to put wallet back into tight pants properly while juggling a few things such a phone etc., it probably was in the taxi, still who knows? Never lost a wallet again. I imagine someone with no Thai Bank account could be in a right pickle if lost a wallet and all cards. I usually don't carry absolutely all cards with me and definitely not passport. Would not be smart.
I would much rather go to the BBQed duck place on other side of Sukhumvit under BTS Asoke. Its much less crowded and better quality. A very good place to get take away BBQ duck too. Its called Thong Kee. In old days when GF sent me to get BBQed duck, I sometimes had a quick diversion to a BJ joint not so far away.
You would also be far better off in Love Scene 24 hours restaurant in Soi 23 with a good menu selection. Just my opinion if you want something a little better, but still not pricey.
But another chrome bar with average ladies and "car alarm music" is really not what Cowboy needs right now. Yes I tried to explain to the Ladyboy mamasan (ex Crazy House waitress) that the "music" was very obnoxious to guys of my generation even if the young girls seemed to like it. I suggested to her to go check out Shark, notice a lot more customers, and notice a much more acceptable type of dance music for the Expat customers. I was only there due to a an ex regular Crazy House girl being there. I really hated it as a bar completely. First step would be fire the DJ, then make it more similar to Crazy House or Shark or Doll House would be a big forward step.
Have to learn something from bars doing well or okay.
Its called Yong Lee (rising tone). Very cheap but nothing special. I gave it away years ago, maybe because something started to annoy me about the Chinese attitude (that reminded me of Hong Kong). Does not have an overly friendly vibe. LOL Chinese culture and manners are very different to Thai. Anyway cheap and a bit nasty sums it up. A friend first took me to Yong Lee in 1991. Back then, even girls from the Thermae Soapy or Cafe would sometimes eat there (due to price and speed). It never changed much. Some staff members were very old (like 70+), so surely some must have croaked it by now. Maybe something to do with losing my wallet getting out of a taxi before a visit to Yong Lee . I think the girl may have had to pay the bill. LOL Lucky it was a small bill. Later I got back my wallet and cards (minus the cash). I don't believe I was pick pocketed. Just failed to put wallet back into tight pants properly while juggling a few things such a phone etc., it probably was in the taxi, still who knows? Never lost a wallet again. I imagine someone with no Thai Bank account could be in a right pickle if lost a wallet and all cards. I usually don't carry absolutely all cards with me and definitely not passport. Would not be smart.
I would much rather go to the BBQed duck place on other side of Sukhumvit under BTS Asoke. Its much less crowded and better quality. A very good place to get take away BBQ duck too. Its called Thong Kee. In old days when GF sent me to get BBQed duck, I sometimes had a quick diversion to a BJ joint not so far away.
You would also be far better off in Love Scene 24 hours restaurant in Soi 23 with a good menu selection. Just my opinion if you want something a little better, but still not pricey.Not a fan of either place to tell you the truth. If I want good duck I get our of the Lower Sukhumvit area, which to tell you the truth is only good for Middle Eastern food. There is some good Northern Chinese at Dalian which is behind Villa on Soi 33. For duck Chinatown is the best although there is a place in Khlongtan that is pretty good as well. If you want duck noodles there is a shop in Khlongtoey near PAT stadium that is wonderful. Also close there is one of the best beef noodle shops in the city. Although I live in between Nana and Asoke, I never eat Thai or Chinese food in the area.
Not a fan of either place to tell you the truth. If I want good duck I get our of the Lower Sukhumvit area, which to tell you the truth is only good for Middle Eastern food. There is some good Northern Chinese at Dalian which is behind Villa on Soi 33. One has to eat something although I don't live there and probably more often eat more expensive western food also. LOL.
I thought that would should be called Soi 33/1 most likely, since its a small Soi not directly connected to Soi 33 proper. Still maybe they still call it Soi 33 to prevent finding it. LOL Villa Markt seems to be in Sukhumvit road when I go there, and merely close to Soi 33, however Thai addressing is crazy.
MusicalToM
06-04-18, 17:53
Hi all,
Is there any reviews on Anchalee at Bangkok: http://anchaleebangkok.com/.
I find her pics hot put wanted to get some reviews on her.Mate,
She looks like an Aunty with some heavy make-up. I doubt she is nearing 40.
If that's what your choice by all means go ahead and post a review otherwise stay away.
MusicalToM
06-04-18, 17:55
Fellas,
Hitting Cowboy next week almost after a year. Anything changed, any suggestion?
Not a fan of either place to tell you the truth. If I want good duck I get our of the Lower Sukhumvit area, which to tell you the truth is only good for Middle Eastern food. There is some good Northern Chinese at Dalian which is behind Villa on Soi 33. For duck Chinatown is the best although there is a place in Khlongtan that is pretty good as well. If you want duck noodles there is a shop in Khlongtoey near PAT stadium that is wonderful. Also close there is one of the best beef noodle shops in the city. Although I live in between Nana and Asoke, I never eat Thai or Chinese food in the area.It's rare that I eat in the Sukhumvit playground. The Chinese joint I mentioned used to be packed with girls but hey now I'm showing my age. It's a good meal for that area as opposed to food courts and overpriced tourist crap.
For Duck I go to a place on Charoen krung.
Near Robinson's and Saphan Taksin. About 100 M from Robinsons. Can't remember the name right now. But it's killer.
Member #4733
06-04-18, 20:39
Mate,
She looks like an Aunty with some heavy make-up. I doubt she is nearing 40.
If that's what your choice by all means go ahead and post a review otherwise stay away.If you look at the first picture and then at number four (second row, first one on the left), you can clearly see a huge difference.
I guess number 4 is closer to her real looks. That is not a very nice picture.
For Duck I go to a place on Charoen krung.
Near Robinson's and Saphan Taksin. About 100 M from Robinsons. Can't remember the name right now. But it's killer.Prachak Roast Duck is excellent.
Its called Yong Lee (rising tone). Very cheap but nothing special. I gave it away years ago, maybe because something started to annoy me about the Chinese attitude (that reminded me of Hong Kong). Does not have an overly friendly vibe. LOL Chinese culture and manners are very different to Thai. Anyway cheap and a bit nasty sums it up. A friend first took me to Yong Lee in 1991. Back then, even girls from the Thermae Soapy or Cafe would sometimes eat there (due to price and speed). It never changed much. Some staff members were very old (like 70+), so surely some must have croaked it by now. I've eaten there 4-5 times because others in my group wanted to eat there but I gave it up, too. The service is terrible. Never got my order right or brought the food to a group of 2-4 of us without there being a gap of 15-20 minutes between servings. The food isn't even as good or as cheap as the nearby Terminal 21 food hall. Felt like I needed to dip my hands in sanitizer after handling the menus, which smell like body waste. I've heard the place is about 100 years old. Wouldn't be surprised. I think that has been the main appeal for the past couple of decades, that it was so old and "historic". I haven't seen the very old lady who used to just sit in a chair against the back wall for a while. Maybe gone. Must have been almost 100 years old herself.
It's rare that I eat in the Sukhumvit playground. The Chinese joint I mentioned used to be packed with girls but hey now I'm showing my age. It's a good meal for that area as opposed to food courts and overpriced tourist crap.
For Duck I go to a place on Charoen krung.
Near Robinson's and Saphan Taksin. About 100 M from Robinsons. Can't remember the name right now. But it's killer.That is perhaps the most famous duck place in the city and it is killer.
MusicalToM
06-05-18, 18:19
If you look at the first picture and then at number four (second row, first one on the left), you can clearly see a huge difference.
I guess number 4 is closer to her real looks. That is not a very nice picture.It must be both mate. She is ageing and using photoshop to look better. If a working girl tells you the photo in website is her without any modifications and you are believing then I would suggest trust Trump making America great again.
Years back Eden Club used to offer two girls back to your hotel for all night until 8 am the next day. Looking on their website now I cannot see this offer- does anyone know if it is still possible? Also where else can I find a threesome in BKK, l don't want to just pick two random girls with no chemistry, would prefer seek out providers who specialise in it and are bi-sexual.Find which ever bar you like and ask the mamasan. Just remember Thai Lady's can be very "shy" not with you on your own (the dressing under a towel thing they always do even on their own) but with another girl if you take two you might find one insists on being in the bathroom while the other performs. So explain to the Mamasan what you want and she will hopefully provide. Might have to buy her a drink though 555.
Five Star is now owned by the same people that operate Crazy House, I'm told. The old Five Star was something different in Cowboy, a cool quirky bar with live music. Never had many people, so I understand new owners want to try a different set-up. But another chrome bar with average ladies and "car alarm music" is really not what Cowboy needs right now. The street lacks diversity; it should have more themed bars IMO. Owners need to make a profit but why is there such a lack of inventions and new ideas? Sad really. I guess some of it is related to the "Iran" guy how run his bars for money laundry only. For customers to the area it is just a waste of space since it does not appeal to the hardcore mongers nor to the curious tourists. So who is it for. Since there are no people inside, just a bunch of girls on the outside? The old Climax is surely missed; the discos like Insanity, Levels etc. Just do not do it for me (maybe to old. ? The Hillary bars are Ok, but a tad too small. Any news on the street that Climax will reopen on another location? It was a perfect pick-up place with tons of freelancers.Thanks for the intel on Five Star. I was in BKK with my Thai GF a few months back and stuck my head in. I was somewhat horrified, but like everything else, use it or lose it. Ten years back it was busy, and relaxed, the drinks prices were 60-80 Baht so you could stay in there for a few hours for 1 k Baht with a bg from another bar and buy the staff a few drinks. Post coup and other Thai issues customers dropped off and following Asian business logic prices went up a lot. A shame, and a great loss to decent music in BKK. I didn't really Climax had closed, last time I walk passed the Ambassador it appeared to be open, but I never went in. That was a few months back though. The Hillary bars (at least 3, or whichever one is on Soi 12) have funny rules for the lady drinks, which most customers might not notice, but they have 4 different drinks they have to have in order. After that they can have what they want. I have a friend there from a long time ago when she worked on Soi 33.
I don't go to all the bars, tending to stick to a few, but if you are on older bloke (I am) try Angelwitch, Rawhide and Long Gun. Buy a beer, watch the show and see who comes to talk. Go midweek when it is quieter and be patient. If you are very old and you want young ladies LT this may not work as well. But I am sure you know all that, sorry.
JS.
Xxcyclopsxx
06-08-18, 04:49
Hey, We are young couples from India coming to Bangkok on 12th July - 17th July looking for fun. Any recommended fun place to visit where we can get connected with Asian couples & mature men. Also, any place where we both can get massage. Do let me know.
Thanks in Advance.
JeraldoRivera
06-08-18, 19:20
Any recommended places for couples? Either good sex rubdown for the 2 of us or whatever. My lady friends not really bi so even a male rub for her would be fine or somebody that specialise in couples.
Thanks for ideas.
Imo the best gogo bars in Bangkok are rainbow in nana and king's castle 1 in patpong.Hi BB. Which rainbow are you talking about and why is it the best bar according to you? Have been popping my head into rainbow now and then but it never occurred to me to sit down and grab a San Mig light.
Banana Boi
06-09-18, 13:00
The one with the long stage. Never sure which Rainbow is which. I'm not a fan of Bangkok gogo bars to begin with but that Rainbow has the prettiest gogo girls. Your taste may vary. If I had one night like I do again this week I choose Patpong over Nana and Cowboy. Patpong gogo bars seem to have friendlier girls liken to the Pattaya gogo bars.
Yes I tried to explain to the Ladyboy mamasan (ex Crazy House waitress) that the "music" was very obnoxious to guys of my generation even if the young girls seemed to like it. I suggested to her to go check out Shark, notice a lot more customers, and notice a much more acceptable type of dance music for the Expat customers. I was only there due to a an ex regular Crazy House girl being there. I really hated it as a bar completely. First step would be fire the DJ, then make it more similar to Crazy House or Shark or Doll House would be a big forward step.
Have to learn something from bars doing well or okay.Not sure what you mean with the expat customer. I can imagine that there's a Japanese or perhaps oriental market that they target in CH who might like the crap music they play over there. From the times I have entering both CH and Shark bar I had the impression that there were many more Asians in CH to be found comparing with Shark or even Dollhouse where there were more westerners. Not sure that this is due to the fact that they play more acceptable music in Shark and DH.
As for me I really do like some good music that not only suits my taste but also suits the bar. Looking at CH establishment I'm not sure that having better music, whatever that may be would be per se better in order to get more revenue. I think that playing this type of music is a part of their identity which perhaps suits the target they're aiming for. At the end I believe that most people don't go into bars that is according to their music type liking. I go into CH because the girls are naked. Nothing more, noting less.
The one with the long stage. Never sure which Rainbow is which. I'm not a fan of Bangkok gogo bars to begin with but that Rainbow has the prettiest gogo girls. Your taste may vary. If I had one night like I do again this week I choose Patpong over Nana and Cowboy. Patpong gogo bars seem to have friendlier girls liken to the Pattaya gogo bars.Thanks for the info. I'll pay a bit more attention next time I'm there. Never have been going to Patpong as I have the feeling that it's not so conveniently situated and I have not read that many stories about patpong either on this forum or at least nothing that attracted me. Who knows I'll give it a try next time. Thanks again BB.
Banana Boi
06-09-18, 18:08
Don't expect the quantity of girls in Patpong. Other than King's Castle 1 with 60-70 girls most bars there have only 15-30 girls.
Thanks for the info. I'll pay a bit more attention next time I'm there. Never have been going to Patpong as I have the feeling that it's not so conveniently situated and I have not read that many stories about patpong either on this forum or at least nothing that attracted me. Who knows I'll give it a try next time. Thanks again BB.Yeah, there never seems to be reports on Patpong, I am sure there is some value there amongst the clip joints, anyone with deep knowledge care to share the places that are legit vs the places that are straight up rip joints?
Hi fellow mongers,
As I am coming to Bangkok Nana Hotel for only 1 night. What do you guys think about it, is it good like girl friendly also in terms on staff and safety.
Also one more question about the money, how much in Bahts you think I should carry for the night if I want to eat, drink and sex of course + transportation from / to the airport.
My regards,
Falhooos.
Anyone good new recommendations for transport company Bangkok-Pat? Used one before but they don't reply anymore so guessing they quit. 1500-2000 acceptable if very good spacious car with good A / C and happy friendly drivers.
LittleBigMan
06-11-18, 01:49
Hi fellow mongers,
As I am coming to Bangkok Nana Hotel for only 1 night. What do you guys think about it, is it good like girl friendly also in terms on staff and safety.
Also one more question about the money, how much in Bahts you think I should carry for the night if I want to eat, drink and sex of course + transportation from / to the airport.
My regards,
Falhooos.Nana hotel should run you around 1700 baht, ask them for the newer renovated rooms it includes a buffet breakfast. Without knowing your spending habits and taste a guess is 10,000 baht should be more than enough at least for me.
**For my 3rd trip of 16 nights, the plan was to spend 5 nights in BKK; the first 3 and then the final 2. The first 3 were with my buddies V and L. It ended up being 9 nights, and I will touch on that later.
P.S. Sorry for taking so long to write these. Definitely not enough time while on the ground, and I am just getting over the jetlag now, ha!
My flight to CAN out of LAX was delayed an hour and I feared that this would cause me to miss my connecting flight to BKK as I had just a little more than that time originally. Unable to get an answer from any of the airplane staff, I didn't even bother hustling off the plane as I originally took the risk on the aggressive itinerary knowing that there was another flight from CAN to BKK departing a few hours later. Got my tickets for that flight and slammed some beers in the lounge.
I ended up sitting next to 2 masseuses on the plane. Fine-tuned my Thai and as I was ripping more beers and one of them started to appeal to me a tad more haha. Turns out she lives in Chonburri. She said she'the come visit me in Pattaya when I was there so I got her line.
Landed at 1 am and hustled through the airport, customs and was in the taxi in 15 minutes. Dunno if I'll ever beat that but I'll take it. 25 minutes at checked into the hotel- Legacy suites by compass hospitality on soi 29. Pretty nice place, the breakfast is fantastic!
My buddy V landed 12 hrs before me so I sent him around to scout. As nothing stood out in NEP last time and recent solid reports there, I told him to check out Billboard, Butterflies, and Bangkok Bunnies. Unfortunately he said he did not see anything that elicited a bar fine. We have pretty similar tastes in our girls, often fighting over them (thank God there are so many LOL) so I took his word for it. He said Cowboy was dead in terms of punters and said he was digging "low season". Anyway, they were at Baccara so I met them there at 2 am. As it was an hour away from closing, I was not expecting much. Unfortunately it was slim pickings, but he did say that he saw one of my favorites from last time (288) earlier on. We left and checked out dollhouse. We love a handful of the waitresses here as they are very high energy. Did not see a single one. Darn. I meant to give this a look myself later on in my trip, but I never got a chance. Next time!
Something I did not partake in last time was the clubs. As I wanted to work other more cost effective avenues this go round, the afterhours clubs we're on my to do list. With 4 guys wide awake what better time than now?! We took a cab to insanity and went in. A lot of lookers in there and while there were certainly plenty past their prime, but there were also many youthful ones. V locked on, while L and I surveyed the room. One caught my eye, but she did not seem interested at all and gave off a vibe that she was God's gift. I passed. Did not make any other moves and was content just getting good night's sleep as I didn't get much during the 20 hrs of flight time. As V and his girl were taking a cab, L and I opted to walk. In front of us there are 2 pretty girls and I ask them "pi nai kap" (thanks Mr E for that line. F'in brilliant) they say "gin kao", I ask if we can join, and they oblige.
We just hit one of those random seafood restaurants set up on the side of the street and the food was pretty tasty. I initially sat down next to Nan (ok face, big implants, quirky personality) as I looked more at Bow, I started taking a liking to her. She definitely had a petite body (pictured), with a nice ass and sizeable tits which I am not surprised end up being bolt ONS. My buddy said she had a bitchy face; maybe I just liked that LOL. I switched seats with my buddy and started working her. I'll say that she did give off a bitchy vibe and she seemed like she just wanted to go home and go-to sleep. Nan was definitely dtf, but my buddy was reluctant. I asked be if she wanted to go, and she bluntly asked "for what". I said to have fun, and she said she was tired. Alright. Not feeling a good vibe, I decide to test her a bit and switch seats again with my buddy and start to work on her friend again LOL. I look at Bow out the corner of my eye and see her watching. I ask Nan for her line and say let's get out of here. She said that be was staying with her and that she would have to come to. I said ok fine, she can go with my friend. Nan speaks Thai with her and then says that be likes me. Ha! Playing hard to get I guess. L says he is not really feeling Nan, but totally takes one for the team here respect! We don't talk any numbers which I saw as a slight risk but as L was a first timer, I prepped him pretty good and knew that this chick would be a good provider.
To our rooms around 5:30 am and Bow is a bit of a bore. I definitely got a starfish vibe but am horny at this point and in full escalation mode. She is hesitant and always stopping me from advancing; so it is 2 steps forward and 1 step back for the next few hours. Finally she takes her pants off and I put a finger inside her. I cannot believe how tight she is! I am talking pinkie tight here. I go down for some DATY for what seems to be the better part of an hour. Finally she is starting to get more into it, and this time I put my index finger in her and she starts to pop her ass out and grind. By now she is pretty wet and I just enter her. Wow it felt great, what a way to start the trip! I finish the deed, roll over to see it's light outside (so much for getting a good night sleep haha) and pass out.
We wake up a little past 10 and I try to get a morning sesh in but she is not having it. Bow says her friend Nan left after L finished and that he gave her 5000 baht. Ok maybe I did not prep L as good as I thought I did LOL. I walk her downstairs and give her money for the taxi. She asks what about paying her for her time, and I playfully say "arai na, you like me baby". Not much of a sense of humor on this one as she just shoots me a dirty look. I do not have any baht so I just throw her a 100 dollar bill. She mentions her friend got 5000, and I say sorry baby I am not giving you 5000 for one pop. Had a tasty breakfast at the buffet and strategized what to do with V and L. We need to exchange money, purchase sim cards, and I want to hit the massage parlors with a 4 handed gloryhole in mind. Paradise and 102 are the places I have marked and with Paradise being a short walk away, that is the one I choose.
We walk in and Mamasan asks what we are looking for; I say I want a 90 minute 4 handed gloryhole massage with BJ and proceed to take 2 of the 4 girls who are in there without hesitation (Tangmo and Lucky). I pay and we head to the room. I shower alone and then wait for them with great anticipation on the gloryhole bed. They come in and start to massage me when I hear V come upstairs. As he passes by the door he says "hey thanks for leaving so many choices behind buddy" and I bust out laughing. Tangmo definitely has the better body and they both have some hairy bushes which I am not a fan of. They proceed with a so so massage when Tangmo says "see you later" and goes under the table to give me a handjob. I am digging this and then say I am ready for a BJ. To my surprise they open a condom and I am caught off guard. They inform me that they will only give a BJ with condom and that I should only want that for my safety. I'm trying to salvage this experience and say let's just go full service and I'll pay the cost delta afterwards. They oblige and Tangmo mounts me; I can feel that she is pretty tight even through those thick condoms that they had. She starts to tire and says to switch positions. I go in missionary and the expression on her face is not of enjoyment, so I look away haha. After a while of that, I ask her to get on her knees and then just pound away doggie until I finish. Ok 1 down. They proceed to give me more massage and Lucky asks if I'll be able to go again and I say yeah just give me 10 minutes. Well, much to their surprise 5 minutes later I was ready and she mounted me. As she was flat chested (Tangmo had some tits at least) I catch an unpleasant scent from Luckys vag, but just ignore it. I just have her ride me cowgirl until I finish. We still have 20 minutes left now, so they continue with the massage. I jokingly ask Tangmo if she wants more, and she says she is sore and cannot. I then ask Lucky and she shakes her head no. To my surprise I am 3/4's erect now and they offer to finish me with a handjob. I decline as I do not want to waste a pop on a damn HJ. We reconvene and compare notes; L says that he just got the best BBBJ of his life from a provider named Bank. I see her and she is certainly attractive. Had she been there when I walked in I definitely would have selected her haha.
We walk back to the hotel as I need some sleep before our dinner reservation at 7:30. I pass out hard.
After dinner, we head straight to Cowboy. As I mentioned previously, I love the energy of Dollhouse. The waitresses are so much fun to be around, buying them drinks is quite entertaining. The three who we had the most fun with before were all there and hardly left our side while we were there. As ritual I bought them all multiple rounds of drinks and let them spank my bare ass with their hands / foam batons. There was an American couple sitting behind us watching on in bewilderment haha. I asked about the girls we took before and was told they both no longer work there. Heading upstairs to the bathroom, I did however see one that could shake it like no other that I distinctly remember seeing on NYE due to that detail and the left half sleeve that she has. She can drop it down like no other. I told her to come down after she was finished dancing. 10 minutes later she came down and I got the best lap dance of my life. I thought about taking her but felt it had to be LT or nothing with her as those moves of her would have any man blowing it quite quickly. With my baccara girl on my mind, I decide to check it out, and make this one my fallback plan.
We get to baccara and after looking for her, did not see her. Darn. Surveyed the rest of the dancers and took a seat upstairs. Saw some solid girls but no one I wanted to buy a drink for. Went downstairs to to take another look then thought f it, why not just show the mamasan one of the few photos I have and ask her. I show her and she looks closely then leads me to the stage. There she was!! The drinking has taken its toll as you can see from what she looked like in January (1st pic) to now (2nd). I also tell myself that I didn't recognize her as she colored her hair and her tits didn't seem to be popping out as much. We go upstairs and she does not remember me haha. I show her some video and she seems a bit embarrassed, but I honestly don't care about that or her added lbs as long as the session was as good as before (it was one of the few sessions from the past trip that was still in my spankbank LOL). She asks me if I want to barfine and I say yes as we still had a great session before. She asks LT or ST and I ask her how long she'll stay for LT. She says 5, I counter with 6 and she says ok. I ask how many pops, and she says 2, I say last time I got at least 3, and she giggled and said up to me. To clarify I said ok as many as I want? "jet" (7)? She says ok and I ask how much. She says 7000 and I laugh. She says 6000, I say 5000 and I'll give her 1000 tip if she makes me happy. Deal. I hit the head, and come back to my buddy next to a girl with a hot face. I get a tad jealous and ask him where the f he found her. He said he just happened to see her downstairs. Her name was Jae (3rd picture) and she was so good my buddy barfined her the next night. He never does this so this speaks volumes. I asked him what he loved most about her and he said it was how she'd provide GFE one moment and would be pse the next.
Anyway, I recall my girl was a tad on the crazy side, dragging me from bar to bar but like me she just likes to have a good time, so I ask my buddy if he wants to go to a bar nearby for some drinks and dancing. They are down and I tell my girl we will go for a drink nearby and she smiles. Anyway, that turned into 90 minutes or so of boondoggling and I ended up dragging her out by her feet with the compromise being she could drink as much Singha (her beer of choice that she should probably give up for life LOL) as she wanted in the room. So if you barfine her just be ready for that.
Got to the room and clothes come off; I used to love the skinny chicks with implants, but now I am all about those big natural, perky titties. Session one down, get beers and cuddle. Suddenly I get a slew of line messages. Ha go figure that 2 of my pre trip line contacts decide to get back to me then. Oh well. Be from last night also asked what I was doing and that she was out drinking in radchadumri then asked what I was doing and I just didn't answer. By then I was ready to go again and session 2 down. Feeling the sexual chemistry I feel like I could bang this girl for eternity even though in all my past relationships I've gotten sick of having sex with them haha. She picks out some music and I serenade her with the songs that I know the lyrics to. She likes this and is starting to get turned on again. Kiss the neck, and lick from there to the V for some DATY. I feel the goosebumps on her and go in again. I lean back and pull her on top; she mounts me cowgirl and I am in a happy place with those big titties in my face. She starts to fatigue and I tell her to get on her knees. Love the view, reach around and get a handful of those titties again and pound away till I finish. Pass out for an hour or so and wake up hard. Feel her and she is a tad wet. Play with her pussy and then get in another session. It is now 530 am and I go in for one more session. That is how I maximize ROI haha. We shower together and she leaves. She asks if I'll come back tonight and I said most likely. She asks what time and I said before close, she said shell wait (I hope she didn't haha). Still a good provider, albeit a bit on the crazy side. Not sure I will repeat as who knows what she will look like when I go back this fall.
So after reading about Thermal, I finally tried it. The concept is interesting: it's a bar that's chock full of freelance girls standing around waiting for clients. Many are quite well dressed, and give off the impression they are office girls by day and working girls just some nights. I made my way around the whole room, chatting with a few and lingering some time with one who was quite enthusiastic ("I like you" she said convincingly), pretty and wearing a cute dress. I inquired on price (3,000) and move on.
I sat down a minute to finish my drink and decide, and a seasoned girl with a slightly desperate look on her face approached me. She offered 1,500 upfront, but I reapplied I wanted 3 K girl. I walked back to her, suggested 2,500 and she agreed with a smile. We walked out hand in hand and got a cab.
At mine she did the usual dash for the shower and emerged naked, eager to get the show movie ahead. I did not delay! She was petite, but had extraordinarily firm, medium-sized tits. When I complimented her, she said "silicone" and showed me the massive scars hidden underneath each one. She told me the price and I considered it money well spent!
She kissed me with lips pursed, which I don't love, but her overall performance was warm and willing. She sucked my cock until I was ready to enter her (cowgirl so I could focus on those tits! I rolled her into missionary, and finally flat on her front with me fucking her behind. I told her I wanted to come on her tits, but clearly she did not understand! Seconds from orgasm, I pulled out and tugged on her should so she could roll over. No response. One hand working my cock, and one on her shoulder I hoisted her hard util she figured it out, just in time for me to shoot a decent load onto her chest and stomach. Mission accomplished though I wonder what was going through her mind at the time!
Paid up, tipped her and she was keen to get back to Thermae for another go. Maybe some lucky guy got her too!
I'm reading g that the price are stopping g and drug testing falangs all over the entertainment district. What's going on?
Anyone good new recommendations for transport company Bangkok-Pat? Used one before but they don't reply anymore so guessing they quit. 1500-2000 acceptable if very good spacious car with good A / C and happy friendly drivers.I used to use Mr. T out of Pattaya and they always were prompt. Not sure if they are still in business as it has been 3 years since I was there. Going to go back in August, but only doing BKK this trip.
Hi Guys,
Can someone please advise how much a box of 4 tablets of Cialis 20 MG should cost in Bangkok? I'm referring to the ORIGINAL Cialis, not the copy. I don't want to get ripped off so was just wondering what would be a reasonable price for it.
Cheers,
Br.
Hi Guys,
Can someone please advise how much a box of 4 tablets of Cialis 20 MG should cost in Bangkok? I'm referring to the ORIGINAL Cialis, not the copy. I don't want to get ripped off so was just wondering what would be a reasonable price for it.
Cheers,
Br.Expect to pay 1,800 Baht for a box of 4, or about $56.00 USD ($14 a pill).
The generic is about $3 a pill. Gives me a headache.
Hi Guys,
Can someone please advise how much a box of 4 tablets of Cialis 20 MG should cost in Bangkok? I'm referring to the ORIGINAL Cialis, not the copy. I don't want to get ripped off so was just wondering what would be a reasonable price for it.
Cheers,
Br.If you go to a pharmacy in the Sukhumvit area they are 1400 Bath.
I used to use Mr. T out of Pattaya and they always were prompt. Not sure if they are still in business as it has been 3 years since I was there. Going to go back in August, but only doing BKK this trip.I used MrT on the 27 May. The guy was waiting for me and a nice safe trip. 1000 baht. I used Nams taxis back to the airport again on time, a safe fast trip and cost 1200.
Hi Guys,
Can someone please advise how much a box of 4 tablets of Cialis 20 MG should cost in Bangkok? I'm referring to the ORIGINAL Cialis, not the copy. I don't want to get ripped off so was just wondering what would be a reasonable price for it.
Cheers,
Br.I just today paid 1400 baht for a box at the pharmacy on soi 15 just off suk.
KillMonger
06-12-18, 09:55
So I'm reading good things about both Bangkok and Pattaya but if I only could pick one place to go, which place should I pick?
BlazeJohnny03
06-12-18, 12:24
I'm not really into the bars and club scene. But I would like to find a mature freelancer on the street. Is there any area where they all congregate or do I have to good looking for them one by one?
Thanks.
Blanquiceleste
06-12-18, 12:29
Anyone good new recommendations for transport company Bangkok-Pat? Used one before but they don't reply anymore so guessing they quit. 1500-2000 acceptable if very good spacious car with good A / C and happy friendly drivers.I always use Keak's taxi services for BKK, Pattaya, Rayong, Chonburi, etc. Google Keak Taxi Pattaya. They have a website with all rates published. Excellent safe drivers with well maintained cars always.
I'm reading g that the price are stopping g and drug testing falangs all over the entertainment district. What's going on?I haven't seen anything like this and I've been here for over a week now, and gone to Nana / Cowboy many times in that time.
So I'm reading good things about both Bangkok and Pattaya but if I only could pick one place to go, which place should I pick?If it's your first time in Thailand go to Pattaya. Every thing is easy to get to. I had my first trip in February and went to Pattaya first. After reading the forum, looking at google maps and asking questions I had a ball. Bangkok was ok but my wingman was sick so that affected things but it is harder to move around and is more expensive.
Chances are your plane is landing and departing from Bangkok so try both but spend more time in Pattaya.
Rob.
I'm not really into the bars and club scene. But I would like to find a mature freelancer on the street. Is there any area where they all congregate or do I have to good looking for them one by one?
Thanks.You may want to contact Kaintuck. He seems to be the expert on the mature woman.
Apcalis is the generic and works just fine. Headaches, stuffy nose, other symptoms are no different for me between the original and the generic. Because of the side effects I only use it with girls I've been with before and for whom I know that extended action is worth the day-after aches.
Expect to pay 1,800 Baht for a box of 4, or about $56.00 USD ($14 a pill).
The generic is about $3 a pill. Gives me a headache..
Member #4698
06-13-18, 02:56
I'm not really into the bars and club scene. But I would like to find a mature freelancer on the street. Is there any area where they all congregate or do I have to good looking for them one by one?
Thanks.I am not sure what you mean by "mature" FL's. If you mean 32 to 40 year old girls that are still attractive then I suggest you might want to look elsewhere than the street because frankly I don't see very many attractive SW's in that particular demographic on the street although there are a some if you walk around, so up to you. But if you can overcome your reticence about bars, I think you will do a lot better.
For example, starting at the top of the Baht range and working lower: Spasso is a much better place to find attractive "mature" FL's than the streets and more expensive too, but what's money when it comes to having a good time with a sexy, well dressed, still firm, 34 year old Thai woman. For some reason Spasso seems to specialize in attractive 30 something FL's. I don't know why. Also Baccara and Shark Go Go's each have friendly & attractive older hostess girls in that same 30 something demographic looking after customers outside their respective Go Go's in their patio / bar serving areas. It is much more relaxed and quieter out on these patios and you don't have to enter the Go Go at all. Drink bars such as the well known Hillary bars also have plenty of 30 something friendly hostess girls available for your pleasure as do the "Artist" bars on Soi 33. In addition, there are plenty of open air hostess drink bars scattered around Soi 22 Queens Park Plaza with an eclectic mix of "mature" girls waiting to make your acquaintance.
Of course all of my suggestions above are for bars. If this venue really does not appeal to you, you can always just walk around Sukhumvit between Soi 4 and Asok and up and down Soi 11. From 11 pm onward you will see a lot of SW's hanging about. Although I rarely take an SW of any age group, I still enjoy walking around Sukhumvit late at night after my first tryst of the evening is long over. You never know who you may bump into and find attractive. HA HA. I once met the attractive 36 year old mamasan/owner of two small massage shops in the Ambassador Arcade and after we talked a bit and I realized I wanted her, she showed me a very memorable good time in her establishment - just the 2 of us with the lights turned down low.
And my last suggestion is to look into the social media sites like Thai Friendly, Tinder, and Wechat ect. There are a ton of girls of all descriptions and ages on these sites.
The bottom line is that I am sure you will find what you are looking in one of these venues. Happy hunting.
Expect to pay 1,800 Baht for a box of 4, or about $56.00 USD ($14 a pill).
The generic is about $3 a pill. Gives me a headache.Instead of spending 1800 baht for the original Cialis I would buy the Apcalis-SX20 you see on the streets for 200 baht or $1. 55 USD a pill and get two blow jobs with the money I saved.
KillMonger
06-13-18, 11:04
If it's your first time in Thailand go to Pattaya. Every thing is easy to get to. I had my first trip in February and went to Pattaya first. After reading the forum, looking at google maps and asking questions I had a ball. Bangkok was ok but my wingman was sick so that affected things but it is harder to move around and is more expensive.
Chances are your plane is landing and departing from Bangkok so try both but spend more time in Pattaya.
Rob.Awesome. Thanks for the recommendation. If I can afford to stay in both areas, I'll try. But I'll definitely shoot for staying in Pattaya my first time.
Was in Bk in 2014 single and had fun but now travelling with wife who obviously won't let me out at night to go to the playgrounds of Cowboy & Nana.
So looking for MP options near hotel which is close to Terminal 21. Any locations within walking distance please and prices.
Honey just popping out to buy cigarettes.
Member #4591
06-13-18, 13:47
Was in Bk in 2014 single and had fun but now travelling with wife who obviously won't let me out at night to go to the playgrounds of Cowboy & Nana.
So looking for MP options near hotel which is close to Terminal 21. Any locations within walking distance please and prices.
Honey just popping out to buy cigarettes.With the BTS being right there, don't limit yourself. Opposite Terminal 21 is Som's Heaven for FS or a quick BJ. Near Soi Cowboy on Soi 23, there are a row of massage shops halfway down the Soi. Soi 22 and Soi 33 are also within walking distance and both sois have many massage shops half way down. If you can make it one BTS stop after Asok to Phrong Pong, you can visit Soi 24,24/1, or Soi 26 which have many massage shops. In all these cases, you will need make a cigarette run for 1-2 hours. Not sure how you are going to explain that. If I were you, head opposite Terminal 21 to Som's Heaven for a quick BJ or FS. I almost forgot, on Soi 19, which is the Soi beside Terminal 21, there are a row of 3 massage shops on the right hand side just past the steak house and 7/11. Happy hunting.
Blanquiceleste
06-13-18, 14:29
With the BTS being right there, don't limit yourself. Opposite Terminal 21 is Som's Heaven for FS or a quick BJ. Near Soi Cowboy on Soi 23, there are a row of massage shops halfway down the Soi. Soi 22 and Soi 33 are also within walking distance and both sois have many massage shops half way down. If you can make it one BTS stop after Asok to Phrong Pong, you can visit Soi 24,24/1, or Soi 26 which have many massage shops. In all these cases, you will need make a cigarette run for 1-2 hours. Not sure how you are going to explain that. If I were you, head opposite Terminal 21 to Som's Heaven for a quick BJ or FS. I almost forgot, on Soi 19, which is the Soi beside Terminal 21, there are a row of 3 massage shops on the right hand side just past the steak house and 7/11. Happy hunting.With a 7/11 at almost every 100 m it won't be long before the wife calls the bluff on "stepping out to buy cigarettes". Got to be more creative.
I just tell the wife I'm going for a massage. Two hours later I've got a spring in my step and my "muscles" rejuvenated, and I take her out for a nice dinner.
She's either naive or understands that I need a little "me time" when we are in Asia together.
With a 7/11 at almost every 100 m it won't be long before the wife calls the bluff on "stepping out to buy cigarettes". Got to be more creative.
Was in Bk in 2014 single and had fun but now travelling with wife who obviously won't let me out at night to go to the playgrounds of Cowboy & Nana.
So looking for MP options near hotel which is close to Terminal 21. Any locations within walking distance please and prices.
Honey just popping out to buy cigarettes.Som's is probably your best choice if time is of the essence. Its 2 minutes from Terminal 21. A BJ is 800 baht and FS for 30 minutes is 1200. Chose your service provider or you will be assigned the next one in the queue who may not meet your specs.
NewbExcited
06-14-18, 04:00
So I'm reading good things about both Bangkok and Pattaya but if I only could pick one place to go, which place should I pick?I personally like the big city atmosphere and I felt Bangkok had better gogo bars. I loved visiting the bars in Nana and also Soi Cowboy. When I visited Pattaya, it was raining very heavily and I couldn't venture out much except to a soapy massage place. It was my first visit and the entire fish bowl experience was unique.
However I loved Bangkok a lot more.
I just tell the wife I'm going for a massage. Two hours later I've got a spring in my step and my "muscles" rejuvenated, and I take her out for a nice dinner.
She's either naive or understands that I need a little "me time" when we are in Asia together.My partner lets me "travel" without any interrogation. As see said Asian ladies are " understanding" and as long as I come home and provide for her then there has been no problem over a long time period. Don't worry she is not a kept woman though.
Like any intelligent person have never smoked so popping out for a massage has been used before even here in Oz and in her home country.
Yes lucky I am, and I'm pretty sure she knows what I am up to.
Gents,
Is it me or has Soi 11 lost its charm? Was there after a 6 months absence and I got to say, I didn't see much action on. Didn't realize Climax closed and those doggy barbershops / massage places good for a quick handjob were shut too. But now Soi 11 seems dead. No more hot ass walking around. Seems like a few new hotels, like Mercure. But otherwise, disappointed. Thoughts? Or maybe just bad timing on my parts.
My partner lets me "travel" without any interrogation. As see said Asian ladies are " understanding" and as long as I come home and provide for her then there has been no problem over a long time period. Don't worry she is not a kept woman though.
Like any intelligent person have never smoked so popping out for a massage has been used before even here in Oz and in her home country.
Yes lucky I am, and I'm pretty sure she knows what I am up to.My wife will never question me about going for a massage particularly when we are in Asia as I have at least a leg massage every day and she will only want one every 3 to 4 days. She is Asian and I think is she suspected me of any wrong doing she would kill me! So be careful with your preconceptions LOL.
Hello Senior gurus,
I have only few hours in BKK. And of course my.
Little jonny is saying # at #% at #. Now its a test for Seniors.
Any creative suggestions.
Hello Senior gurus, I have only few hours in BKK. And of course my Little jonny is saying # at #% at #. Now its a test for Seniors.
Any creative suggestions.We had a whole thread on this subject which has disappeared. I posted a report about meeting a "friend" and getting back to the airport in about 5 or 6 hours roundtrip. (I think I was headed to Cambodia.) If you are arriving early morning or late at night, forget it. If you cannot check your luggage through to final destination, forget it. And report back. To date, no one (myself excepted, ahem!) has told us what happened. TTG.
Hello Senior gurus,
I have only few hours in BKK. And of course my.
Little jonny is saying # at #% at #. Now its a test for Seniors.
Any creative suggestions.Will there be a time when you will contribute to the forum?
Blanquiceleste
06-15-18, 04:49
Will there be a time when you will contribute to the forum?Possibly not, so best to simply ignore such takers. I have realized that I am wasting my time in responding to these types of men hoping there will be a change. Now I spend my time more wisely.
Joe Karnavic
06-15-18, 05:00
Will there be a time when you will contribute to the forum?He has 5 post all asking similar questions and in one of the post he says people are not responding to him. On top of that he do not have PM facility and he is asking people to send him PM. How bizarre things can be!!
We had a whole thread on this subject which has disappeared. I posted a report about meeting a "friend" and getting back to the airport in about 5 or 6 hours roundtrip. (I think I was headed to Cambodia.) If you are arriving early morning or late at night, forget it. If you cannot check your luggage through to final destination, forget it. And report back. To date, no one (myself excepted, ahem!) has told us what happened. TTG.Its okay if you are not able to find the post TTG. And I appreciate you taking a min to respond honestly. At-least you didn't ask me to report my experience on my first future trip to BKK.
I hope responses like the once I received are not discouraging folks from reporting.
He has 5 post all asking similar questions and in one of the post he says people are not responding to him. On top of that he do not have PM facility and he is asking people to send him PM. How bizarre things can be!!Thanks a lot for going thru my posts. However.
I wonder how you could conclude that there was no PM facility.
Will there be a time when you will contribute to the forum?I am hoping for the same BM. First time to alone and that to BKK and REP. So, hoping to collect some experiences this time. Will share if I get a chance to collect some experiences this time.
He has 5 post all asking similar questions and in one of the post he says people are not responding to him. On top of that he do not have PM facility and he is asking people to send him PM. How bizarre things can be!!What is not bizarre and quite predictable is the home country of the gentleman.
Guessing it is like shooting on the Red Cross in a war field.
Hello Senior gurus,
I have only few hours in BKK. And of course my.
Little jonny is saying # at #% at #. Now its a test for Seniors.
Any creative suggestions.Yep. Not enough time for Johnny to come out.
MusicalToM
06-15-18, 08:01
Landed last evening, thought of trying wechat nearby feature. This profile Donut caught me and started chatting. She confirmed she is not ladyboy and did a video chat, her voice was alike a lady so I invited her for 1. 5 k ST and if I like then LT for 3 k.
She comes to hotel and almost 5'8" tall with implants. She instantly got naked and asked me to lie down for massage. I asked to check her pussy but she wouldn't allow, just showed me some hairy shit. I insisted to touch and she got angry, I politely asked her to leave and she threatens to call police. I said go ahead and gave her 200 for taxi but she wants 2 k LOL. She almost tried to slap me at my back when I rushed to get the hotel security, when comeback she is gone. We checked everything in room, after comfirming all good the hotel security left. Meanwhile she was calling me from reception downstairs, I said fuck off and she threatens again to call police. When I didn't respond she begs to give 200 for taxi which I offered earlier. I rang the hotel reception to ask her leave and that was it.
WeChat is full of ladyboy shit, if you want to try it's no less than a risk. Guess I am done with the wechat.
Learning: By misfortune or a bad judgement if you are ending up in such a situation, seek help from the hotel security and I'm sure you will be fine. Don't panic and pay-up, you don't deserve this.
Hey,
After a hectic business trip, had taken 4 nights out to monger in Thailand. My friend wanted to stay all the 4 nights in bkk but I prefer patts so 3 nights in patts 1 night in bkk. Hav not started writing patts report hopefully will do t soon.
So we booked our room in soi 11. I had last visited thailand almost 12 months back. Soi 11 was much more energetic then, its all dead now what with climax shut. Anyhow we checkedin around 3 pm from patts. Took a nap showered and headed out around 8 to nep.
NEP was different way different then what I had encountered before. For one I was welcomed with open arms no only members shit, no buy drink first BS. We sat on a open sports bar opposite to the entrance had our customary beers and food and planned our next move. Paid our tabs and moved on to spankys. I remember having visited this place and it was the same like last time, lots f cute spinners and the dance floor gyrating topless, We ordered our drink. I saw a cute 22- 24 yr old on the dance floor I distinctly remembered her smile. Was about to call mamasan for her when another gentleman sitting on the opp side got to her first. Well finders keepers. Anyhow my friend had to go back to his room as he was expecting some important emails. Off he went I was alone. Came out of nep, Came to the main road crossed the signal and went to Grace Hotel. Now Grace hotel has a charm of its own. Brilliant building but what was more brilliant was there were some middle east ladies with their hijaab on standing on the pathway. I was intrigued I always had this on my bucket list and just couldn wait to strike t down. Saw a cutie grinned at her she came to me we spoke and off we went to a short time hotel somewhere nearby. (my hotel was nearby but the night was still young coudn risk a LT scenario). It was awesome seeing the cutie undress. Perfect tities, shapely ass and a navel to die for, yes I have a navel fetish. Anyhow Lots of licking sucking and fucking on the questionable bed occured, we lied satitated. Paid her the 2000 for the ST 700 for the room. Dressed and came out.
Went to my hotel room freshend up and went to Soi Cowboy. I have been once to this place almost 3 years back and have unpleasant memories of the same, But looking at how NEP treated me well thought my luck would change. Cowboy was the same it has not changed much since the last time. I wanted to check baccara first,. And as soon as I tried to enter memories of 2015 came haunting me. I was told on the door that its a members only club and stopped entry. I told the doorman how much do you want me to pay for the membership he refused. Wow so much for a change of heart. Anyhow my friend being the optimist that he is insisted on having a drink before leaving I agreed. He had a corona, I was in no mood for a beer had a ricard and we were just sitting around chatting about where to go next when the mamasan or the waitress not sure asked us why are you guys sitting here go inside. WTF not 1 to push our luck we went inside. Bioth the levels were jam packed. We went to the top level where loads of topless dancers were around. Now I usually don barfine from a gogo, but there was this cute saucy gal with silicones who was 2 good to ignore I motioned her to come over bought her a couple of lds she was sitting on my lap. Now I told her very clearly that I am not looking for boom boom I will be going to infinity from here she said ok take me also, my friend was very clear that he is going to have some calls to be taken and he can't do ST or LT. Anyhow the BF was around 600 and 3000 for ST that was the price. I told her oko will pay and you accompany me to disco. She said that her friend will also come I was okay with that. I paid totally 4 k for both of them and 600 as BF for 1 and some 8 - 10 LDs as well.
Infinity was fun we danced, we got a bottle of JD on the table.
Thanks a lot for going thru my posts. However.
I wonder how you could conclude that there was no PM facility.Because you don't have PM, very easy.
Did you pay for subscription, for instance?
I think our fellow BM Joe has not wasted much time in going through your "massive" archive of posts.
Don't worry.
We understand your time is valuable and can't waste in RTFF.
Hello Senior gurus,
I have only few hours in BKK. And of course my.
Little jonny is saying # at #% at #. Now its a test for Seniors.
Any creative suggestions.I know the feeling. But how few hours? If over 7 hrs (landing to take off) you can either take the expensive option of booking into airport hotel (advance booking needed) and order in. It works well but costs extra 1,000 baht for travel. Gold and Golden have both proved reliable for this (book in advance, confirm on landing) as has Smooci (book on landing). Alternatively cab or public transport to and from one of well reviewed places around Sukhumvit.
But remember on entry into Thailand in takes some time to get through passport control unless you are VIPed and procedure on way out is certainly not speedy. Can take up to two hours from landing / before takeoff but you could be lucky.
Under 7 hours?
Robert Long
06-15-18, 19:04
Landed last evening, thought of trying wechat nearby feature. This profile Donut caught me and started chatting. She confirmed she is not ladyboy and did a video chat, her voice was alike a lady so I invited her for 1. 5 k ST and if I like then LT for 3 k.
She comes to hotel and almost 5'8" tall with implants. She instantly got naked and asked me to lie down for massage. I asked to check her pussy but she wouldn't allow, just showed me some hairy shit. I insisted to touch and she got angry, I politely asked her to leave and she threatens to call police. I said go ahead and gave her 200 for taxi but she wants 2 k LOL. She almost tried to slap me at my back when I rushed to get the hotel security, when comeback she is gone. We checked everything in room, after comfirming all good the hotel security left. Meanwhile she was calling me from reception downstairs, I said fuck off and she threatens again to call police. When I didn't respond she begs to give 200 for taxi which I offered earlier. I rang the hotel reception to ask her leave and that was it.
WeChat is full of ladyboy shit, if you want to try it's no less than a risk. Guess I am done with the wechat.
Learning: By misfortune or a bad judgement if you are ending up in such a situation, seek help from the hotel security and I'm sure you will be fine. Don't panic and pay-up, you don't deserve this.It is always best, when in doubt, to get security to check their ID. Thai security knows if they are real ladies or LB's. This way you can avoid a bad situation. I always meet them in he lobby or at Holly's coffee shop. But then again I have been fooled, but it was the best blowjob I have ever had. 5555.
RL.
Here's my report from NEP, Top Floor, June 2018.
This was my first visit to Bangkok.
Billboard GoGo
This place is famous and you see a lot of reviews on it. I went in was seated right in front of the soapy bathtub. Holy crap, smoking' hot ladies. There is also the second 'display' where the Ziggurat are dancing on a circular stage that is slowly rotating. So you can check out the product! I enjoyed that bathtub show for a while but I decided I wanted a lady on my lap. I found some seating around the side, near the rotating display.
I called over the mamasan and asked for a certain number.
Mamasan: Lady drinks or hotel?
Me: Just drinks.
Mamasan: (annoyed) Why not hotel?
Me: I just want drinks.
Mamasan: But not hotel? (Really pushy attitude, seems disgusted that I did not want hotel.).
Me: Because I only want drinks.
Mamasan finds the lady with the number I requested. At this point the mamasan starts hounding me for a 100 THB tip. Well I offered her 50 and she starts getting annoyed, and keeps standing there begging for 100 while the lady is on my lap. Eventually the mamasan accepts the 50 and leaves.
Well the lady's moves were pretty bad, she just sat on my lap and grinded one-dimensionally the whole time. Not very fun or arousing. And that mamasan left a bad taste in my mouth (figuratively speaking!) After this, I paid and left. I did not go back to Billboard. They were just too pushy.
Conclusion: If you're looking to barfine from a large selection of very hot ladies, this is a good place. But if you are just voyeuristic like me, just try to blend in, go when it's more busy so maybe the staff will have other people to attend to.
Butterflies
I found they were less pushy than Billboard, but I still liked their selection of Ladies. I had one on my lap for a while and enjoyed my time there.
The pressure was much less than at Billboard and I think this place is worthwhile.
Conclusion: A pretty decent place in NEP.
Charade (Ladyboys)
I did not enter Charade, but I should mention their ladyboy promoters in the hallway are pretty aggressive. I told them outright, Ladyboys are not for me. But they kept pestering me, and one of them even said it was not an issue since "she" had already been cut. OK Ladydude, please leave people alone when they say it's not for them!
It is always best, when in doubt, to get security to check their ID. Thai security knows if they are real ladies or LB's. This way you can avoid a bad situation. I always meet them in he lobby or at Holly's coffee shop. But then again I have been fooled, but it was the best blowjob I have ever had. 5555.
RL.If anybody mongers long enough they are going to encounter the chic / lady boy bait and switch every few years. This can happen anywhere in the world. I have had it happen twice.
First time it was a tense stand off where I had I was visiting what I thought was a female escort in London, turned out to be a ladyboy and the fucker locked the door upon entry so I couldn't get out. It was really sketchy because I could hear someone else in the second room of the apartment, so was thinking pimp or second ladyboy in there. Not an ideal situation. I called the Police and had them on speaker, once she / he heard the police voice ran quickly to the door and unlocked it. I left, told the police I am good and hung up. Threw the prepaid phone out within hours and was out of the country a few days later. Dodged a bullet on that one.
The second was in Australia. Virtually the same thing happened but because I had been through it before was much more relaxed. I very calmly said "for fuck sake you wasted my time in driving over here, now I am going to have to find something else etc". Because I was so matter of fact and pretty clearly not going to put up with any shit the Ladyboy just opened the door where I continued to mutter and swear all the way out into the corridor. The ladyboy even tried to make me be quiet in the corridor to which I just continued with my matter of fact rant about how this was bullshit and a waste of my time etc all the time moving quickly towards the car. I find this works now in most situations, once they smell fear or you hesitate the chances of getting proper fucked go up for every minute you are still in the shitty situation.
Burner Phone / Gmail. I always use a cheap burner phone and a seperate gmail account when communicating with any P4 P action. That also includes ones I have been communicating with for years. Also fuck letting them get anywhere near any social media or similar accounts.
Angel Witch
A good concept, but I found it kind of annoying in the end due to the way their staff operate to 'coach' the ladies.
I went in here two days in a row, the second time because I got some 95 THB happy hour drink coupon, which was honored without a fuss. (Lady drinks still full price. The 95 TBH was for the first drink only.).
When you ask for a dancer to sit with you, a staff member comes and sits right in front of you, within an arm's reach, watching your interactions, constantly talking to the lady and giving her instructions on what to do and when to ask for lady drinks. This same staff member kept lifting up my beer to verify there was actually beer left in the bottle. (You can't see the bottom because of the beer cozy).
The same 'coach' remembered me the second time, (I was wearing the same loud shirt,) and he was trying to get a lady drink out of me. I offered him a 100 THB tip instead. He was happy for that and it's also cheaper than LD prices.
They're also strategic here in giving you the right change to tip them, if you're not paying exact change.
Conclusion: The way they scrutinize you as you interact with the ladies is creepy and annoying. I do not plan to come back.
Spanky's
One of the more enjoyable places on the second floor. It's a smaller and more intimate place, with a darker room. This makes it harder for staff to come and hassle you for drinks, especially if you pick a good seat location.
I really loved the shower show. The lady is inside this plastic shower, soaping herself up. Starts in a swimsuit, ends up wearing nothing.
I didn't ask for any dancer to sit with me but I wasn't hassled at all either.
Conclusion: Good place to come back. Verify at the door when the shower show will start!
Twister Bar
I had a good time here and wasn't hassled too much.
Sorry, I was pretty drunk at this point and don't remember too much about what went on.
This was my first time visiting Bangkok, with several trips to Soi Cowboy.
RawHide
I was recommended by a friend (a Thailand vet) to go in here, and it was my first time ever in a GoGo bar. I was still kind of shy about going into this kind of establishment.
It was only around 8 PM, and I allowed the front door ladies to coax me in. To my shock I was the only guy in the place! The mamasan talked to me and I stated that I was interested in drinks and no barfine. The mamasan immediately brought a lady over to sit with me (even though I didn't request or call a number).
I guess this was the top lady in there as she was super-hot. I probably would have picked her anyway. I'd say 10/10 face and 7.5/10 body. I bought her a drink. She immediately got on top of me and was, ahem, extremely persuasive with her body. All this time, the whole contingent of dancers was gyrating right in front of shy little me.
The lady on my lap kept trying to talk me into going 'upstairs' with her, even though I had said drinks only to the mamasan. The dancers were also yelling at me, cheering me on. This lady was an expert at being persuasive with her body, and it seemed like there were no limits on where I could put my hands. Let's just say I was extremely tempted, but I am only a drinks guy.
In the end I paid the bin and left. The lady who was on my lap confronts me outside, asking for 100 THB tip because she needs it for the taxi. I denied her, telling her that she's the only one in there making money because of me. The lady grabs me, tries to be like a futbol goalkeeper, blocking my path repeatedly. I eventually got by her and she kicked me in the butt as I walked away.
Conclusion: I don't want to return here anytime soon due to the bad attitude of this one lady.
Baccara
So this bar is reputed as being mainly for the Japanese clientele, and I agree with that description. The prices are also expensive.
Drinks (not Lady Drink) are 220 THB, and you must buy one before you enter.
The main draw here is the multi-level transparent dance floor, where you can look up at the underwear-less dancers upstairs.
To be honest, I did not find the ladies here to be very attractive. I am from North America, and perhaps they ladies are attractive from a Japanese perspective. This place had a large number of ladies all having this super-petite elfin kind of look. No good dancers, they were all in there doing the Bangkok shuffle, barely moving.
The second and third floors seemed more relaxed. But the transparent floors gimmick gets old pretty fast.
Conclusion: Not for me. Will not return.
Suzie Wong
I allowed the promoters in front to usher me in, and it was kind of awkward. It's a small place with about 5 dancers onstage. I was the only guy in here.
I did not find the dancers very attractive, and they all seemed kind of depressed, probably due to the lack of customer action. I almost didn't want to look up at them. I finished my drink quickly and paid and left.
Conclusion: Maybe return at a busier time.
Tilac
A big place with a large selection of quite attractive ladies. You can also get drinks out front and you don't have to buy Lady Drinks if you don't want. Pretty easy going with the mamasan. She actually started coaching me in the Thai pronunciations of certain touristic spots I had visited!
Inside, the dancers are on platforms all over the place, and you can't view them all from any one sitting location. It's like a bonanza in there with all the hot ladies!
The downside is that they're fairly uptight on what you can do after you buy a Lady Drink. Many other places, you can get a handful of boob, but here, she says: "If you want to massage me, you have to pay the bar!" OK, fine. She is cut off after 1 lady drink.
Conclusion: Good place for drinks or if you want to barfine. But if you just want to get frisky during Lady Drinks, it is not a good choice.
Five Star
A very small place and I didn't even see it during my first few visits to Cowboy.
The stage is pretty small, and the seating is small and intimate. About half the ladies were nude dancing!! Some of them were indeed lookers, and I invited one over. She slipped on this little black frock thing (no underwear) and joined me. Let's just say they are very liberal on what you can do here. By the second Lady Drink, I think she forgot to ask for more drinks. Her eyes were closed and she had a big grin on her face, and my hands were visiting places that normally require barfines! Yes, I had a big grin too!
Zero pressure on tips, or buy drinks for mamasan, etc.
Conclusion: I definitely enjoyed my time here and want to go back.
Lighthouse
It's a small to medium size place. It just seems to be a typical GoGo Bar, but I liked the dancers. They also have coyote dancers here, who are identified by different wristband colours. IIRC, the regular barfine is 700 and for coyote it is 1200.
More of the dancers here seemed to be having a good time and have a good attitude. Dancers on stage were receptive to receiving the long eye contact and smiling, and responded well with more sexy dance moves right in front of me.
Next thing you know, I have two ladies sitting in my lap and we're having a crazy good time!
Very little pressure on tips, buying drinks for mamasan, etc.
The only downside I can report is that the dancer sitting in your lap will always get back up on stage for her next dancing shift. It affected me because I told the mamasan a certain number, but it turned out that dancer already had another customer waiting for her.
Conclusion: I definitely enjoyed my time here and want to go back.
Crazy House
This place is just around the corner from Soi Cowboy, on Soi 23.
This place is run by Disgusting pigs.
They wanted a 500 THB cover charge from me, a visible minority. I tried entering on 2 separate days, and it was the same thing.
But I stuck around in the area, and talked to numerous other white European men exiting Crazy House. Not a single one of them had to pay anything to get in.
I believe it is only due to my 'wrong' skin colour that they were trying to keep me out. I told them my home country (in North America) and the bouncer didn't care. And it is the truth, I'm born and bred in North America.
Mamasan: But not hotel? (Really pushy attitude, seems disgusted that I did not want hotel.).Was this a rather large and tall be*tch? I may have experienced her in November 2016. Same thing: I was there for a drink or two and the eye candy. She came over, introduced herself, then started grabbing random girls and shoving them onto the bench next to me. Made for a short, unpleasant five minute visit. And of course she wanted a tip from me as well. Didn't happen.
Uncle Volodya
06-17-18, 07:19
Gents,
Is it me or has Soi 11 lost its charm? Was there after a 6 months absence and I got to say, I didn't see much action on. Didn't realize Climax closed and those doggy barbershops / massage places good for a quick handjob were shut too. But now Soi 11 seems dead. No more hot ass walking around. Seems like a few new hotels, like Mercure. But otherwise, disappointed. Thoughts? Or maybe just bad timing on my parts.I concur. Did not really have all that good a time staying staying in the Soi 11 area last trip (March). Levels and Insanity absolutely sucked and there are not as many girls on the street as I remember in years past. Thermae was OK though and I did hook up with a very nice girl form there that I'd definitely repeat if I can find her Line ID in my phone. 555.
Fortunately Banana Boi came to the rescue dragging me out to Patpong where I had a lot of fun at King's castle, BFing an absolute cutie on 2 consecutive nights.
Next trip I May skip staying in the Sukh and try out Patpong. Just for a change of pace if nothing else. Added bonus is that its clearer and food options seem better.
Anyone have any news on Kings Castle? They were in the middle of some kind of move/remodeling deal last time.
BlazeJohnny03
06-17-18, 10:12
In Korea its arond 3 to 4 dollar. Nothing brand named but still gets the job done.
I'm wondering if the costs is the same. Once again nothing brand named. Even the cheapest would do.
Thanks.
How can you control yourself after feeling up a 10/10 Jake?
Your reports offer a different perspective of a voyeur, quite interesting feedback on all the clubs.
This was my first time visiting Bangkok, with several trips to Soi Cowboy.
RawHide
I was recommended by a friend (a Thailand vet) to go in here, and it was my first time ever in a GoGo bar. I was still kind of shy about going into this kind of establishment.
It was only around 8 PM, and I allowed the front door ladies to coax me in. To my shock I was the only guy in the place! The mamasan talked to me and I stated that I was interested in drinks and no barfine. The mamasan immediately brought a lady over to sit with me (even though I didn't request or call a number).
I guess this was the top lady in there as she was super-hot. I probably would have picked her anyway. I'd say 10/10 face and 7.5/10 body. I bought her a drink. She immediately got on top of me and was, ahem, extremely persuasive with her body. All this time, the whole contingent of dancers was gyrating right in front of shy little me.
The lady on my lap kept trying to talk me into going 'upstairs' with her, even though I had said drinks only to the mamasan. The dancers were also yelling at me, cheering me on. This lady was an expert at being persuasive with her body, and it seemed like there were no limits on where I could put my hands. Let's just say I was extremely tempted, but I am only a drinks guy.
In the end I paid the bin and left. The lady who was on my lap confronts me outside, asking for 100 THB tip because she needs it for the taxi. I denied her, telling her that she's the only one in there making money because of me. The lady grabs me, tries to be like a futbol goalkeeper, blocking my path repeatedly. I eventually got by her and she kicked me in the butt as I walked away.
Conclusion: I don't want to return here anytime soon due to the bad attitude of this one lady.
Because you don't have PM, very easy.
Did you pay for subscription, for instance?I always assumed you had to be a senior member for the PM system as well, but lately I was corrected that this is not the case (anymore). Regular members can use the PM system too.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=member_type_questions#faq_membership_type_questions_01
"Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system."
Member #4698
06-17-18, 13:46
This was my first time visiting Bangkok, with several trips to Soi Cowboy.
RawHide
I was recommended by a friend (a Thailand vet) to go in here, and it was my first time ever in a GoGo bar. I was still kind of shy about going into this kind of establishment.
It was only around 8 PM, and I allowed the front door ladies to coax me in. To my shock I was the only guy in the place! The mamasan talked to me and I stated that I was interested in drinks and no barfine. The mamasan immediately brought a lady over to sit with me (even though I didn't request or call a number).
I guess this was the top lady in there as she was super-hot. I probably would have picked her anyway. I'd say 10/10 face and 7.5/10 body. I bought her a drink. She immediately got on top of me and was, ahem, extremely persuasive with her body. All this time, the whole contingent of dancers was gyrating right in front of shy little me.
The lady on my lap kept trying to talk me into going 'upstairs' with her, even though I had said drinks only to the mamasan. The dancers were also yelling at me, cheering me on. This lady was an expert at being persuasive with her body, and it seemed like there were no limits on where I could put my hands. Let's just say I was extremely tempted, but I am only a drinks guy.
In the end I paid the bin and left. The lady who was on my lap confronts me outside, asking for 100 THB tip because she needs it for the taxi. I denied her, telling her that she's the only one in there making money because of me. The lady grabs me, tries to be like a futbol goalkeeper, blocking my path repeatedly. I eventually got by her and she kicked me in the butt as I walked away.
Conclusion: I don't want to return here anytime soon due to the bad attitude of this one lady.
While I in no way condone the girl's behavior towards you outside the bar, if it had been me enjoying a particular bar girl's attention and getting randy with her in the bar; I would have tipped her 100 or 200 baht during check bin time and told her I would be seeing her again in the near future. That is if she really was as hot as you say and I liked her. Then everything would have remained friendly and set up nicely for my next visit and eventual barfine. Meeting sexy girls and shagging them is the primary reason I go to Go Go's. I don't visit Go Go's to listen to the music or to imbibe quality drinks. 555. There are other much better bars for that. Do as you please, but in this case, I think you qualify as a cheap Charlie. Remember going forward, you reap what you sow in BKK.
I always assumed you had to be a senior member for the PM system as well, but lately I was corrected that this is not the case (anymore). Regular members can use the PM system too.If in doubt just click on the poster's name.
If "Private Message" comes up in the drop-down list of items then you can send them a PM.
If it's not there, then the poster is not a "member". HyBuddy cannot send or receive PMs.
Was this a rather large and tall be*tch? I may have experienced her in November 2016. Same thing: I was there for a drink or two and the eye candy. She came over, introduced herself, then started grabbing random girls and shoving them onto the bench next to me. Made for a short, unpleasant five minute visit. And of course she wanted a tip from me as well. Didn't happen.Regarding the Billboard GoGo Mamasan, the description matches. Quite fat and big grey witch-like hair.
How can you control yourself after feeling up a 10/10 Jake?
Your reports offer a different perspective of a voyeur, quite interesting feedback on all the clubs.My fear of diseases is consistently stronger than my sexual urges.
Condoms don't protect against everything. Also, condoms can break.
While I in no way condone the girl's behavior towards you outside the bar, if it had been me enjoying a particular bar girl's attention and getting randy with her in the bar; I would have tipped her 100 or 200 baht during check bin time and told her I would be seeing her again in the near future. That is if she really was as hot as you say and I liked her. Then everything would have remained friendly and set up nicely for my next visit and eventual barfine. Meeting sexy girls and shagging them is the primary reason I go to Go Go's. I don't visit Go Go's to listen to the music or to imbibe quality drinks. 555. There are other much better bars for that. Do as you please, but in this case, I think you qualify as a cheap Charlie. Remember going forward, you reap what you sow in BKK.This was my first time ever in a GoGo, and I was way out of my depth. Also, some other rather shocking and hilarious things happened during this encounter, which I won't mention here because they are so specific and unique. I don't want this post to be personally identifiable. So I can assure you my brain wasn't doing anything useful by the end of this encounter.
But knowing what I know now, I would have tipped her for sure. Her physical 'persuasive services' were tops for sure compared to any other GoGo dancer I met during my entire trip. Actually they kind of set an impossibly high bar, and I was a bit disappointed with the limits set by dancers at some of the other GoGos.
How can you control yourself after feeling up a 10/10 Jake?
Your reports offer a different perspective of a voyeur, quite interesting feedback on all the clubs.He must be immune to the "blue balls syndrome".
While I in no way condone the girl's behavior towards you outside the bar, if it had been me enjoying a particular bar girl's attention and getting randy with her in the bar; I would have tipped her 100 or 200 baht during check bin time and told her I would be seeing her again in the near future. That is if she really was as hot as you say and I liked her. Then everything would have remained friendly and set up nicely for my next visit and eventual barfine. Meeting sexy girls and shagging them is the primary reason I go to Go Go's. I don't visit Go Go's to listen to the music or to imbibe quality drinks. 555. There are other much better bars for that. Do as you please, but in this case, I think you qualify as a cheap Charlie. Remember going forward, you reap what you sow in BKK.The guy, evidently, thinks a bar provides all that for a mere 100 baht return from the mark up of a couple of drinks.
I am wondering what these guys do in their working life.
The guy, evidently, thinks a bar provides all that for a mere 100 baht return from the mark up of a couple of drinks.
I am wondering what these guys do in their working life.It was my first time in a GoGo Bar and I was in way over my head. I had no idea what are the norms.
Knowing what I know now, I would have tipped her.
But she should not have kicked me in any eventuality.
And yes, as I got accustomed to how it all works, I did tip various other GoGo ladies and other staff at other bars.
Steve 9696
06-17-18, 19:38
This was my first time visiting Bangkok, with several trips to Soi Cowboy.
RawHide
I was recommended by a friend (a Thailand vet) to go in here, and it was my first time ever in a GoGo bar. I was still kind of shy about going into this kind of establishment.
It was only around 8 PM, and I allowed the front door ladies to coax me in. To my shock I was the only guy in the place! The mamasan talked to me and I stated that I was interested in drinks and no barfine. The mamasan immediately brought a lady over to sit with me (even though I didn't request or call a number).
I guess this was the top lady in there as she was super-hot. I probably would have picked her anyway. I'd say 10/10 face and 7.5/10 body. I bought her a drink. She immediately got on top of me and was, ahem, extremely persuasive with her body. All this time, the whole contingent of dancers was gyrating right in front of shy little me.
The lady on my lap kept trying to talk me into going 'upstairs' with her, even though I had said drinks only to the mamasan. The dancers were also yelling at me, cheering me on. This lady was an expert at being persuasive with her body, and it seemed like there were no limits on where I could put my hands. Let's just say I was extremely tempted, but I am only a drinks guy.Jake,
First of all thanks for the posts. Good, interesting read. As you said, you are new to this. Understand that these places exist for one purpose only- to bar fine out as many girls as possible. And every lady drink is presumably a prelude to possible bar fine. So it is totally unsurprising to most of us that your "look only" attitude was not met with much enthusiasm. And when you get very touchy feely with a girl and then neither tip nor bar fine, outrage may occur. They are not giving the lap dances for free- again, they hope to persuade you. You can of course say "well, they offered" but I think it's a bit of taking advantage honestly.
I would not be at all surprised if the large cover at CH had nothing to do with your race (other than you are easy to identify) but rather the word getting around that you are going to waste girls time for little money. Sorry to be a bit harsh, because you are a newbie, but voyeurs who are maximizing the stretch of a baht are indeed not favored.
First of all thanks for the posts. Good, interesting read. As you said, you are new to this. Understand that these places exist for one purpose only- to bar fine out as many girls as possible. And every lady drink is presumably a prelude to possible bar fine. So it is totally unsurprising to most of us that your "look only" attitude was not met with much enthusiasm. And when you get very touchy feely with a girl and then neither tip nor bar fine, outrage may occur. They are not giving the lap dances for free- again, they hope to persuade you. You can of course say "well, they offered" but I think it's a bit of taking advantage honestly.
I would not be at all surprised if the large cover at CH had nothing to do with your race (other than you are easy to identify) but rather the word getting around that you are going to waste girls time for little money. Sorry to be a bit harsh, because you are a newbie, but voyeurs who are maximizing the stretch of a baht are indeed not favored.At Steve.
Thanks for your comments.
I should point out that at RawHide, I specifically told the mamasan up front that it was for drinks only, not barfine. Why would they even bring the dancer over if she was only going for barfine? Maybe they would be disappointed in the end, but I don't see why they would be outraged when I told them upfront what I was doing.
Regardless, I admit it was a mistake to not tip her. And as I figured things out in the following days, I did tip many other dancers, bar staff, etc.
As for Crazy House, if you look at their reviews on Google Maps, there are many other reports of selective race-based 500 THB cover charges. I'm quite sure I was a victim of having the 'wrong' skin colour.
This is not high season. Most of the venues I visited were *not* packed, so they should at least let in customers to buy drinks. (In high season, I understand they don't want "drinks only" customers.) In low season, why not just keep the customers, as long as they're buying drinks? It's revenue.
Member #4591
06-17-18, 21:03
Jake,
First of all thanks for the posts. Good, interesting read. As you said, you are new to this. Understand that these places exist for one purpose only- to bar fine out as many girls as possible. And every lady drink is presumably a prelude to possible bar fine. So it is totally unsurprising to most of us that your "look only" attitude was not met with much enthusiasm. And when you get very touchy feely with a girl and then neither tip nor bar fine, outrage may occur. They are not giving the lap dances for free- again, they hope to persuade you. You can of course say "well, they offered" but I think it's a bit of taking advantage honestly.
I would not be at all surprised if the large cover at CH had nothing to do with your race (other than you are easy to identify) but rather the word getting around that you are going to waste girls time for little money. Sorry to be a bit harsh, because you are a newbie, but voyeurs who are maximizing the stretch of a baht are indeed not favored.I really doubt that girls from the others bars in Soi Cowboy warned the door guys at CH to not let him in without paying a cover. In fact, many of the bars in Soi Cowboy are geared towards the lady drink model only with few to no barfines hapenning. Jake fits the type of customer that business model applies to and as we just read, he had good times in Soi Cowboy but in Nana where the barfine is key, he didn't have a good time. From my field data, only CH, Baccara, Sharks, amd Suzy Wong, are almost 100% Bar fine bars, and the rest are about 50/50.
In Korea its arond 3 to 4 dollar. Nothing brand named but still gets the job done.
I'm wondering if the costs is the same. Once again nothing brand named. Even the cheapest would do.
Thanks.In my case it cost me about 24,000 Baht to visit Thailand and I can only go once if lucky twice a year. It is a big investment of time and money and the last thing I worry about is how much I pay for lube! I usually buy KY before I leave and I'm happy with the knowledge that I have when I need it. This is a little bit like travel insurance, if you can't afford it you really can't afford to go.
I should point out that at RawHide, I specifically told the mamasan up front that it was for drinks only, not barfine. Why would they even bring the dancer over if she was only going for barfine? Maybe they would be disappointed in the end, but I don't see why they would be outraged when I told them upfront what I was doing.I really did enjoyed your report, it was like being a fly on the wall during your hazy trip through Bangkok. Kudos to you. There are many reports on the bars here but I guess little on how they work in regards getting the most on the experience. Here is my 2 cents on your specific comment and mistake above.
A lot of guys think the gogo bars are like strip joints back home, this is not the case, they don't want people sitting there just drinking all night. Think of them more like brothels but where as you only have say 5 minutes to make a choice in most countries in a GoGo bar think of this window being extended to say 30 to 60 minutes They want you to buy a couple of drinks, buy a couple of lady drinks and then barfine the girl and get out of there, the mamasan will also try and gouge a tip. All part of the model. While you are drinking they will constantly check if you have any thing left in your glass, there is a non defined time limit on how long you can sit on your drink If you want to deviate from this model you will need to tip people along the way or at least be happy to buy lady drinks as you are going along.
By telling her that you were only going to have a few drinks was a signal to her that you are a customer that they don't want in the club, doesn't matter if the club was packed or empty. Hence she was pushing you to either change your mind or leave. They are quite brutal in enforcing this model. You got the message and left.
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