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Warbucks
11-15-08, 03:33
I am not a frequent writer to this forum but do travel to Thailand at least once a year. During that time I add a report if it will add to the forum in a positive way.

I come there to have a good time and enjoy the company of the ladies. I enjoy there sence of humor and their company, and taking them to dinner. This comes along with the sex. I don't mind being seen with a lady who is working or is a freebee. Those observing me wouldn't know the difference. So I do have to disagree with those who feel they wouldn't be seen with them. Each to his own but I have enjoyed mine.

Mackin


If you think Thais or long term expats can’t tell you are with a hooker you need your head examined. It all comes down to do you care what others think.

Mouse1
11-15-08, 04:14
If you think Thais or long term expats can’t tell you are with a hooker you need your head examined. It all comes down to do you care what others think.Wow, you guys are good! So you can tell just by looking whether money has, or is about to, change hands?! I've only had one freebie, and she acted and looked just like other girls to me...

Sarcasm aside, I agree that if a fat sweaty balding aging old git like myself is hanging out with a hot nubile TG, it wasn't love at first sight on her part. (As Mrs Merton famously asked, 'What first attracted you to short, balding millionaire Paul Daniels?'). But I defy you to tell whether it is a freebie (girl playing long time looking for a husband) or a WG. Gosh, sometimes they're both in the same day!

Michi
11-15-08, 05:37
Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers of both LOS & PI.

I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.

I have been to LOS 3 times but never to Manila..... I however have met and played with many PI ladies in HKG.

So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?

Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.

Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.

CTI guess you have to try it yourself.

It is quite different.

Thai: Very pretty, mostly small boobs, curvy, but also no big butt, less feeling GFE

Phil: From my point of view less pretty, quite some boobs, nice butts, great GFE

BKK: Activities is more easily available during daytime as well, while MNL only has LA or shopping centers.

Stay in Malate close to LA and you will be covered.

Try and report back your experience!

Mike

Pita123
11-15-08, 05:41
Assumed beergarden would be the same, but it was heaving. Standing room only. Perhaps the only place in BKK selling beer tonight?Saw lots of pubs with customers but the lights turned off. Hotel bars seemed to be operating normally. This gave me a false sense of how things would be outside. Now to figure out a strategy for this eve'.

M P Lurker
11-15-08, 07:45
Thai: very pretty, mostly small boobs, curvy, but also no big butt, less feeling GFE
Phil: from my point of view less pretty, quite some boobs, nice butts, great GFE

I have had a Filippeana GF (speklling?) before but have never been to Philippeans.

I am suprised when you say PI girls are more GFE. I have not had difficulty finding better than GFE in Thailand. Although of course not every single Thai girl is into kissing, BBJ etc.
So what does it mean?

Is a way of saying that PI girls are happy to go bareback?
Because I have heard of guys going to Philippeans, fucking heaps of girls and claiming they never had to wear condom once. I don't condon this of course, but have heard PI girls really don't like condoms, including my ex GF who was allergic to and didn't take the pill. So I had to be very careful not to get her pregnant. She had two unplanned children already.
Her figure was a bit straight compared to my Thai GFs but have met other Filippeanas with great bodies.

Apart from a few special cases, overall I find Thais a bit better looking. PI girls vary in height a lot from very tall to very short.

LittleBigMan
11-15-08, 09:07
LB#2

You are somewhat right. Many of the younger girls from my experience and living here now in general that the younger one's do have a boyfriend and not a pimp as you say. Many of these boyfriends are so selfish like most Thai men I know and hear of is that it's all about the money. They know they are screwing Farangs for money and working in bars but who cares as long as the money keeps coming in to support them. I know first hand a few young girls that give nearly everything they earn to support their boyfriend and then find out while they are working the Thai boyfriend is out screwing around on them. That might explain why so many girls speak poorly of Thai men and want to hook up with a Farang after they have been burned.

I have seen and been around many Thai girls that have Farang boyfriends but in the end when they are more in a setting with their own kind they drinks beer, whiskey and talk alot of sex. In the end I think if they had a equal choice they rather be 100% Thai! But as we know it's the money that's why we are the handsome man.

LBM

Fun Dog
11-15-08, 11:44
Regarding thai ladies drinking whisky, mostly they drink ladies drink or juices in bar. It cost you and money goes to gogo bars owners. But freelancers drink beer or hard drinks in discos. But I like women who drink whisky, because it make them naughty and more sexy, and they are not shy.


The Thai girls do enjoy their drinks/cocktails like kamikaze and whisky (Johnnie Walker red/black label). Just go to dance clubs in RCA & Ekkamai where you will find local young thai girls drinking their night away with their friends. The juice/cola in gogo bars is an infalted way for the bar owners to have more profit. However most regulars at Soi Cowboy will know that some of the girls/dancers there enjoy their tequila shots tremendously. I guess apart from us paying blokes. they are also trying to enjoy the moment where possible.

FD

Fun Dog
11-15-08, 11:57
yeah, i do, actually. she's fun, makes me laugh, and has some interesting stories. i treat her like a friend, and we have a respectful relationship. just went round to her apartment this evening and she prepared dinner while i opened the beers. can honestly say that i've had less close and less mature relationships back home.

i know that when i'm not around she's working the circuit for money, and i'm doing the same for pleasure. not sure how that makes her a 'dirty *****', and me some sort of noble creature?

mouse 1

i second your views and disagree with amjeck, and we should not forget that the working girls whilst out to earn a buck, does make not them less human. most of us sell ourselves in so many different ways, some pandering to the boss, pandering to customers where we work and in so many other different ways. i guess it is not fair to call them skanks and us as customers any more noble. it is a willing buyer willing seller transaction like so many things in life.

i used to see a working girl for 3 years when i was working in the middle east, she was from dalian, china and she knew her objectives very clearly ie working to earn back her passage and then saving money for her family in china and she spent time with me as and when i called her and she would also cook meals and sometimes do my laundry. i do pay her a monthly allowance which is from my puntering budget and i really enjoyed her company during weekend day time when we would have a laugh, have some nice wines anmd maybe go to the movies. the companionship is sometimes less headache than a committed relationship. each man to his own i guess but it is so wrong to degrade another person based on their profession, unless you are a drug dealer/[CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) whom are scums of the earth.

my 2 cents.

fd

Amjeck
11-15-08, 12:29
If you think Thais or long term expats can’t tell you are with a hooker you need your head examined. It all comes down to do you care what others think.
Yes almost all thais can tell and most expats too.

Boinky Boinky
11-15-08, 12:36
If you think Thais or long term expats can’t tell you are with a hooker you need your head examined. It all comes down to do you care what others think.I'd say if it's a middle-aged falang with a Thai woman half his age - which it very often is - even the tourists would spot it as a rental agreement.

Pita123
11-15-08, 12:53
This is all well can good but what are we doing tonight with the bars closed.

Retired Army
11-15-08, 13:02
Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers of both LOS & PI.

I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.

I have been to LOS 3 times but never to Manila..... I however have met and played with many PI ladies in HKG.

So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?

Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.

Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.

CT


Overall, I think the Philippines are cheaper than Thailand. Also, the women seem less reserved. I've sat in coffee shops in Robinson's Mall in the middle of the afternoon and had young attractive girls come up to me and offer their services. If I wasn't interested in them they always had a sister or friend they were willing to call.

Peterko
11-15-08, 14:13
Hello to all,

Please tell me which soapies in Bangkok are open after midnight and how much they charge.

Last year I was in Colonze and liked it there very much.

For Baht 1800 I got a very good service with catbath, BBBJ and FS from a beautyful and friendly girl.

Unfortunately they close at midnight.

M P Lurker
11-15-08, 14:32
If you think Thais or long term expats can’t tell you are with a hooker you need your head examined. It all comes down to do you care what others think.
Of course they can't tell.
When old bloke is with younger woman, not officially P4P, i.e. not accepting money for sex, often there is no way to tell the difference.

O.K. some hookers are unmistakable, but not all, and some normal girls look just the same.

Some would argue that any girl with with an older guy is a hooker, but this is not technically the case.

But all girls seem to cost money in the end whether P4P or not.

There is a 43 year old Thai girl, who talks more like a Farang and lived in Australia for a long time, who has suddenly shown an interest in me and works in a printing firm. We had sex, not for money, but she dresses very hot to show off her body is still great. So has lost some of the normal Thai shyness after being OS for 15 years.

I'll bet if we went to Thailand togther, many will think she is a hooker unless she changes to dress very proper, but she probably has no clothes like that at all.

Asian Flava
11-15-08, 15:23
Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers of both LOS & PI.

I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.

I have been to LOS 3 times but never to Manila. I however have met and played with many PI ladies in HKG.

So the question is. Should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference. I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST c/do in PI for such a short period of time?

Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.

Thanks in advance for any insight (s) you can give me.

CTI've been to both BKK and Manila. BKK twice and Manila once. I do enjoy Filipinas and have had some great experiences with them. If I had the choice between going to either I would pick BKK. I guess I'm more familiar with BKK and know my way around better. I found Manila a bit cheaper and liked the fact that more people speak English there as well.

I'm sure there are good arguments for either. You might enjoy a change of scenery. Many good ISGers who can give you good info on Manila and the Philippines and share their contacts with you.

AF

ThaiLearner
11-15-08, 17:33
This is all well can good but what are we doing tonight with the bars closed.


Have a bottle of water and a wank in your room

Mangofan
11-15-08, 17:39
Nearly all the bars are closed tonight. Soi Cowboy is silent except for the remodeling being done on some of the bars. Walked down soi 22 -- there are a few bars open but they have their lights turned off. You can still get drinks in the restaurants - had a meal and a tall beer at Bourbon Street, and The Penalty Spot (near Soi 27) is open as well. You can barfine girls from the latter - some real cuties in there, but quite expensive I imagine.

As to the discussion if you can tell if a girl is a working girl or not, well, sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. I'm an expat who lives here (3 years now), and I can tell most of the time if the girl is a hooker. It's not just how she dresses - it's her body language and the way she talks. If she uses that goddamn Issaan broken English (leaving out the auxiliary verb and using one tense: ie "I boring now", "I take shower", etc.), then yeah, she might be a working girl. Sometimes it's very VERY obvious. A few months ago I was walking out of the MRT on Sukhumvit and I saw a guy that couldn't have been older than 19. He was with a girl - she had dyed red hair, long earrings, short skirt, tattoos, cleavage showing, motorbike scars, too much makeup, and, oh yeah, lots of gold. There's not a doubt in my mind that she was a bargirl.

Member #4537
11-15-08, 18:00
A few months ago I was walking out of the MRT on Sukhumvit and I saw a guy that couldn't have been older than 19. He was with a girl - she had dyed red hair, long earrings, short skirt, tattoos, cleavage showing, motorbike scars, too much makeup, and, oh yeah, lots of gold. There's not a doubt in my mind that she was a bargirl.

That could have well been me. :) Not sure about the motorbike scars though...

Satrai2000
11-15-08, 21:18
Overall, I think the Philippines are cheaper than Thailand. Also, the women seem less reserved. I've sat in coffee shops in Robinson's Mall in the middle of the afternoon and had young attractive girls come up to me and offer their services. If I wasn't interested in them they always had a sister or friend they were willing to call.Agree with this one!

Never been to the Philippines but as a person who spends quite some time in Singapore and met quite some Pinays here it seems to me that they are indeed less reserved. Maybe it has to do with the language as Pinays speak English much and much better than Thais.

Retired Army
11-15-08, 22:14
This is all well can good but what are we doing tonight with the bars closed.


We have all known about this for weeks, if not months. Plenty of time to stock up with beer or whatever and plenty of time to schedule girls in advance. So if you are setting in your room all alone with your cock in your hand you have no one to blame but yourself.

Zahle
11-16-08, 00:48
I used to enjoy going to the big massage places like Nararee and other places like Eden, to get what I was comming for in BKK. I’m also a big fan of the gogos but it has never been my favorite place to pick up girls. Lately I’ve had some of my better experiencese with SW and this is one of the finer.

One night I had been to Cowboy and Nana with my friend who lives in BKK and is a frequent customer in the bars. After a lot of Heinekens and waching the girls showing us their sexiest moves, we split up, and I am heading towards my hotel in Soi 33, walking down Sukhumvit, as I enjoy, I’m in a very good mood. At a table I see two Katoys trying to get my attention, but I haven't tried that thing yet and didn't want it to happen this particular night. Next to their table I see the most gourgos looking girl sitting with her friend who looks veryJapanese. A bit shy looking, youngish like 19 or so. She has big curly hair and very very nice boobs. I sit down and the katoys approach me and ask if I woukd like to go with one of them. I let them know that I’m not interrested. They ask me whether I am interrested in the beautyful girl, and I say OH YES. The girls tells me that her name is May. We quickly agree on a price 2000 ST, and jump into a cap and soon I find myself in my room at the proud Livingstone Lodge with this lovely chick. I ask her wether it is okay if I take some pictures of her. This is one of my great interrests, to take nice pictures of the girls whom I am playing with. She agrees and I take some really nice pictures of the beauty. No nude. Soon I'm in the shower with the most beautyful girl. She is not to tall, and with the cutest face and the nicest big boops that hasnt been under the influence of gravety yet. She gives head (BBBJ) and we kiss and cuttle and are having a great time. In bed we are having passionate sex (with condom naturely). She is very GF like and a bit shy all the time. Therefore I keep things in a slow and not to hardcore way. Finish up covering her tits with my cum, and we take another shower. After that we both fall asleep on the biiig bed. Later we wake up and she starts to dress. She gives me her phone number, and tells me that she realy would love meet me again.

We never did meet again since I was going home the next day. But I still see her in my dreams.

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Will Smith69
11-16-08, 02:16
Hi,

Sorry, why are all the bars closed, is there a holiday? And if how long dose to last? I will be in BKK in 2 weeks, and I hope everything is open etc. Thanks for a short info. Will.


We have all known about this for weeks, if not months. Plenty of time to stock up with beer or whatever and plenty of time to schedule girls in advance. So if you are setting in your room all alone with your cock in your hand you have no one to blame but yourself.

Warbucks
11-16-08, 04:09
Of course they can't tell.

When old bloke is with younger woman, not officially P4P, i.e. not accepting money for sex, often there is no way to tell the difference.

O.K. some hookers are unmistakable, but not all, and some normal girls look just the same.

Some would argue that any girl with with an older guy is a hooker, but this is not technically the case.

But all girls seem to cost money in the end whether P4P or not.

There is a 43 year old Thai girl, who talks more like a Farang and lived in Australia for a long time, who has suddenly shown an interest in me and works in a printing firm. We had sex, not for money, but she dresses very hot to show off her body is still great. So has lost some of the normal Thai shyness after being OS for 15 years.

I'll bet if we went to Thailand togther, many will think she is a hooker unless she changes to dress very proper, but she probably has no clothes like that at all.Mick,

It’s kind of out of place for me to argue with you as your tenure in Thailand is longer than mine but I respectfully disagree. I don’t live in Thailand but I do live in PI. It makes no difference in reference to the foreigner or the girl's age or her wardrobe for that matter it is all about how she carries herself. Body language etc…after all these years of visiting LOS and you still can’t tell who is friend or foe then you need to lay off the MICKS…:D

M P Lurker
11-16-08, 05:05
Mick it’s kind of out of place for me to argue with you as your tenure in Thailand is longer than mine but I respectfully disagree. I don’t live in Thailand but I do live in PI. It makes no difference in reference to the foreigner or the girl's age or her wardrobe for that matter it is all about how she carries herself. Body language etc…after all these years of visiting LOS and you still can’t tell who is friend or foe then you need to lay off the MICKS…:D
So every bar girl magically has a differrent body language to every other girl?
I have enough experience to know that I (and anyone else) can pick a high percentage of girls that are hookers, but I also allow for the possibility that my guess could be wrong in some cases.
Some P4P girls are able to carry themselves well enough to be quite unsure. Some Thai P4P girls are still shy and dress very conservatively in public.

I believe even the Thais will peg some girls as probable hookers who are actually not.
In some provinces, any Thai girl seen with a Farang has the stigma of being assumed to be a hooker.

Look at Farangs in my Country with Thai wives. We must assume that a fair percentage of the wives were once in P4P but which ones. Only some of them are completely obvious.

But you can't can't argue with the sel confidence of guys who think they know everything and can never be fooled or mistaken.

Those who "can always pick em" will probably wind up with a ladyboy one day just from being too sure and not wary.

Fifty Fifty
11-16-08, 09:09
If you think Thais or long term expats can’t tell you are with a hooker you need your head examined. It all comes down to do you care what others think.

Yep agreed, I do not care, moreover I do not care what others think either !!

IMHO 99% of all women are *****s, it is only a question of 'HOW' the money changes hands.

Cheers. FF

Retired Army
11-16-08, 09:29
Yep agreed, I do not care, moreover I do not care what others think either !!

That's why the Thai's hate Farangs so much, and who can blame them.



IMHO 99% of all women are *****s, it is only a question of 'HOW' the money changes hands.

Hey, you pay for it one way or another. It's either a straight cash transaction, dinner and drinks or a house or two. There ain't no such thing as free pussy.

Retired Army
11-16-08, 09:35
In some provinces, any Thai girl seen with a Farang has the stigma of being assumed to be a hooker.

It's pretty universal throughout Thailand and one of the things my wife hates. I had to work a long time to get her to go with me because she didn't want to be thought of as a "hooker." She has changed her ways a little and might hold my hand in public.



Look at Farangs in my Country with Thai wives. We must assume that a fair percentage of the wives were once in P4P but which ones. Only some of them are completely obvious.

I'm curious, what is your country? You seem to know several very well.

M P Lurker
11-16-08, 11:45
I'm curious, what is your country? You seem to know several very well.
Well I'm Australian but travel a bit with some work assignments OS. My least favourite places to work are USA and London. Of course I could put up with London for big money. Have been working in Germany a few times and quite like it there.
Hoping for a lengthy assignment in Singapore next year with regular long weekends in Thailand. Can't see myself retiring for another 15 years (after stock market has wiped out so much).

M P Lurker
11-16-08, 12:00
Yep agreed, I do not care, moreover I do not care what others think either !!

IMHO 99% of all women are *****s, it is only a question of 'HOW' the money changes hands.

Cheers. FF
I'm with you FF. While Farangs are less concerned about what the appearance/image is, the Thais are generally much more concerned and don't want to kiss or embrase in public for example.

This is a big contrast to some European societies that are very kissy and huggy when meeting even just friends.

Exceptions are Pattaya (where anything goes) and long time bargirls who have got used to the stares and don't care anymore. Long term bargirls can lose the ability to discern when they should act very prim and proper and when they can be wayward. These are types that you don't really want to be with.

Retired Army
11-16-08, 12:25
Well I'm Australian but travel a bit with some work assignments OS. My least favourite places to work are USA and London. Of course I could put up with London for big money. Have been working in Germany a few times and quite like it there.
Hoping for a lengthy assignment in Singapore next year with regular long weekends in Thailand. Can't see myself retiring for another 15 years (after stock market has wiped out so much).

Understand completely. I'm American and choose not to live there. Germany is OK if you can deal with the German attitude. The majority of Germans are great, but there are those that still believe things should be as difficult and expensive as possible. And, that nothing is better than a good set of rules and making sure everyone follows them.

Love your home country, BTW. Would love to retire there, but like you I took quite a hit by the stock market and now I am hoping I can afford a buffalo, wood hut on stilts in Two Bug Fuck Thailand.

Thai Companion
11-16-08, 13:49
If the man is very old or fat and the girl is younger and looks like issan bargirl then everybody will know she is paid to stay with him even if they are married and she really feels Love with him.

It makes bad luck for her for people looking at her thinking she dirty bargirl if she don't protect herself.

If she really loves him why she care. Nobody knows her or her family so why she care?

I see many old fat men with young issan girls a long time and I think 90% chance she will trick him or steal from him in time. If they trick and steal from Thais who don't have much money sure they will steal from foreigners who have. Not all. Nearly all. That's sad. Maybe I should not say this. I see a lot the man after a long ime will cheat on the young thai because he think she don't mind or if she don't find out she will not mind. Always someone will tell her. Maybe she pretend she don't mind but she really really mind inside.

Member #4147
11-16-08, 15:01
Holiday begins in 10 days, BKK shortly thereafter. Getting lots of interest and phone #s. Hope for some daytime entertainment, just hope its not more trouble than its worth. Saw one of my 1st TGF's on a porn site on line, thats helped me get over her. So if you've had experience w/TLL I'd like to hear. PMs always welcome. Looking forward to meeting some of you in BKK early Dec.

Thanks

Amer Tun
11-16-08, 16:13
I know this is not the place to discuss about retirement but I intend to retire some day to Thailand.

Even if I work in a secure state department my retirement plans were hit by the financial and stock market crisis. So I have to look for "cheaper retirement fun".

Here my questions:

How is the situation of the housing market going on in BKK and Thailand?

Is it difficult to settle down in Thailand being european?

Is it possible to "survive without restrictions" there with around 7-8000 eur / month?

Excuses to the admin if he thinks this is not the right place for my post.


Understand completely. I'm American and choose not to live there. Germany is OK if you can deal with the German attitude. The majority of Germans are great, but there are those that still believe things should be as difficult and expensive as possible. And, that nothing is better than a good set of rules and making sure everyone follows them.

Love your home country, BTW. Would love to retire there, but like you I took quite a hit by the stock market and now I am hoping I can afford a buffalo, wood hut on stilts in Two Bug Fuck Thailand.

Amer Tun
11-16-08, 16:23
I know this is not the place to discuss about retirement but I intend to retire some day to Thailand.

Even if I work in a secure state department my retirement plans were hit by the financial and stock market crisis. So I have to look for "cheaper retirement fun".

Here my questions:

How is the situation of the housing market going on in BKK and Thailand?

Is it difficult to settle down in Thailand being european?

Is it possible to "survive without restrictions" there with around 5000 eur / month?

Excuses to the admin if he thinks this is not the right place for my post.


Understand completely. I'm American and choose not to live there. Germany is OK if you can deal with the German attitude. The majority of Germans are great, but there are those that still believe things should be as difficult and expensive as possible. And, that nothing is better than a good set of rules and making sure everyone follows them.

Love your home country, BTW. Would love to retire there, but like you I took quite a hit by the stock market and now I am hoping I can afford a buffalo, wood hut on stilts in Two Bug Fuck Thailand.

Fslag338
11-16-08, 19:05
answers:
1. real estate market has cooled down a lot but not crashed. but asia is behind in the crisis a few months i have the feeling

2. no. but you never will really integrate with thai. the differences are just too big. but an advantage of this country is that there are so many expats and pensionados

3. you will not survive. you will live like a king

Retired Army
11-16-08, 19:16
I know this is not the place to discuss about retirement but I intend to retire some day to Thailand.

Even if I work in a secure state department my retirement plans were hit by the financial and stock market crisis. So I have to look for "cheaper retirement fun".

Here my questions:

How is the situation of the housing market going on in BKK and Thailand?

Is it difficult to settle down in Thailand being european?

Is it possible to "survive without restrictions" there with around 5000 eur / month?

Excuses to the admin if he thinks this is not the right place for my post.

If you don't know anything about Thailand, you had better do your homework before considering retirment here. It's a totally different environment and the differences between Europe are great. A lot of expats have tried, and a lot have failed and moved on. One man's paradise is another man's hell. I gave it five years and had enough. I am married to a Thai and we visit several times a year for a month or two. Even my wife is glad to see Thailand from the window of a departing 747.

I would recommend coming on holiday for several months and seeing how it goes before making a permanent commitment. Check out some of Old Thai Hand's postings and you get an idea of what its like to live in Thailand full time and have had enough of the Thai's.

Peterko
11-16-08, 20:08
Last year I visited the Soapy MP Colonze. For Baht 1800 I had 90 min of pleasure with a nice girl, good catbath and BBBJ followed by FS.

Unortunately Colonze closes at midnight.

Are there any MP or Soapy open after midnight? What is the going rate?

Dreams
11-16-08, 20:27
Well I'm Australian but travel a bit with some work assignments OS. My least favourite places to work are USA and London. Of course I could put up with London for big money. Have been working in Germany a few times and quite like it there.
Hoping for a lengthy assignment in Singapore next year with regular long weekends in Thailand. Can't see myself retiring for another 15 years (after stock market has wiped out so much).
You are wrong about London, lots of opportunities, not all of them expensive, see the relevant threads.

Amer Tun
11-16-08, 21:31
Last question, after I stop because it's not the right place.

If coming on holiday for 2 months or so, is it better to buy a house with people looking (trust them?) at it or is it better to rent something?

Thanks for answers.

Terry Terrier
11-17-08, 01:00
You are wrong about London, lots of opportunities, not all of them expensive, see the relevant threads.
But the big problem is that you have to spend time in a place that is as big a shithole as Bangkok. Just like Thailand, unless you need to be in metropolis-central, there are plenty of much better all-round places in the regions.

Goyave
11-17-08, 02:19
Last question, after I stop because it's not the right place.

If coming on holiday for 2 months or so, is it better to buy a house with people looking (trust them?) at it or is it better to rent something?

Thanks for answers.Better to rent something in my humble opinion. It's not very expensive in Thailand. If you want to buy a house, first, it's not so easy as a foreigner (unless it's a condo) and you will have to pay for its maintenance too.

M P Lurker
11-17-08, 05:10
But the big problem is that you have to spend time in a place that is as big a shithole as Bangkok. Just like Thailand, unless you need to be in metropolis-central, there are plenty of much better all-round places in the regions.
I thought you and OTH must have shot each other in a duel. :D
But perhaps you have recovered from your wounds :(

Most of us would much rather be in BKK than London.

Retired Army
11-17-08, 07:19
Last question, after I stop because it's not the right place.

If coming on holiday for 2 months or so, is it better to buy a house with people looking (trust them?) at it or is it better to rent something?

Thanks for answers.

First of all, you can't buy a house. As a Farang you can own property, but not land. Therefore, you must buy a condo and there are lots of regulations there.

Two months is nothing more than a vacation. You need to be here for a year or two before deciding if this is a place you want to retire. And then where: Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Two Bug Fuck or my favorite, Chiang Mai?

Why don't you move this discussion to the Living in Thailand thread where it's more appropriate.

Daddy07
11-17-08, 07:43
...If coming on holiday for 2 months or so, is it better to buy a house with people looking (trust them?) at it or is it better to rent something?...

Whenever I go on holiday for 2 months or less, I always buy a house, but only when people aren't looking, (even if they are trustworthy) because I'm shy about things like that.

I only rent something if I plan to stay more than 2 months, and then I don't care if people are looking or not because I'm only renting.

Terry Terrier
11-17-08, 10:22
I thought you and OTH must have shot each other in a duel. :D
But perhaps you have recovered from your wounds :(

Most of us would much rather be in BKK than London.
Well, it's an illusion that OTH and I hated each other. The arguing was just a bit of theatre. Where is the old bigot anyway? Hope he's not cavorting with those PAD puppets.

Almost anywhere is preferable to London.

Dreams
11-17-08, 11:20
But the big problem is that you have to spend time in a place that is as big a shithole as Bangkok. Just like Thailand, unless you need to be in metropolis-central, there are plenty of much better all-round places in the regions.
Not sure I understand what you mean, but does not matter, that's not the right thread anyway, and yes, I live in london, and feel privileged to be in a place in westeren Europe where I with 4 girls for less than 100£..Not to say that BKK, FKKs are not nice, I do enjoy those as well when I am there, but I think London is a very nice place in western Europe compared to Paris, Scandinavia, italy...

Master 69
11-17-08, 15:06
I am again here with 3rd episode. Sorry for capital letters. As I typed my story in capital letters long time ago. If someone help me make it small letter, I will be thankful. Anyhow I made it in small paragraphs that readable. Mow read and waiting for comments.

1st night

When I entered my room, it was around 2 ‘o’ clock in midnight. The girl with me, name was cheki. It was not her real name. Because some thai names are difficult to pronounce. She was 30 years old. And have smart figure. I asked cheki to make hard drinks for us. She made the drinks and we sat on sofa and watch tv while having drink.

Cheki asked when we arrived Bangkok and how long to stay. I told her we arrived today morning and plan to stay for a week or ten days.

Cheki told me there is one pay channel on tv, in this hotel to watch porno movies. She changed the channel. There was some good anal actions in the movie. I asked cheki if she could do anal. She told me that she liked it but afraid of it.

We watched the sex movie for 10 minutes. My cock was hard and wanted to come out of my pants. Cheki rubbed her hands on my cock and smiled.

Than, she went to take shower and I made another drink. I watched sex movie while having my drink.

Cheki came out having towel around her body. I watched her body. Her skin was fair. She asked me if I want her to give me bath. But I said not now. I went to bathroom and took a bath with hot water. And came out only wearing underwear.

I switched off the room lights but tv was on. Cheki was watching porno channel and having whisky. She told me it was her 5th or 6th drink in three hours. And she was drinking in the disco, too. She requested me to take care of her if she is drunk. I said it is ok. She looked at me and smiled.

She asked me to sit on sofa and she sat on my legs. Her eyes were pink and she was looking horny. She kissed me deep and took her tongue moved around inside my mouth and I did the same. My hand moved slowly on her body. I opened her towel and she was naked now. I saw her ass in the mirror. It was big and round shape. I moved my hands on her ass. Her boobs were like pear shaped. I started rubbing her boobs. Her boobs nipple came hard. Then she kissed my neck and went down, kissing all my body.

Then she removed my underwear. My cock was hard now. She hold it, kissed it on top and licked it. She moved her tounge from top to bottom of my cock like eating icecream. Then she moved her lips to my balls and started licking it like dog. She took my cock, which is 7 inches long in her mouth or maybe deep in her throat. And gave me blowjob.

I told her that I am coming. She told me she liked to drink my cum. I was surprised to know that. She told me that it keeps her body and skin young and silky. She swallowed all of it, even the last drop.

We did all of this action on sofa and for 20 minutes. After this, she went to bathroom for shower. And asked me to join her. We took bath together and she washed me very gently. She cleaned my cock.

We came out and went straight to bed. In bed, cheki asked if I liked to fuck her now. My answer was in yes. But I told to take rest for half an hour to get strength. She liked my idea. We watched porno film on tv.

After 20-25 minutes, she started rubbing my cock. I told her it would not come hard unless she put it in her mouth. She said ok. And did it. Then it came hard. I stopped her sucking my cock. I put her boobs in my mouth and started chewing it.

At same time I put my finger in her pussy moving in and out. She liked it. She made voices. Then I put condom on my cock and put it in her pussy. I was doing missionary style. And licking her boobs nipples. Then she asked me to change some action.

I told it is her chioce. I laid straight and she came on me and put my cock in her pussy. She was doing a good job. She was moving in circles sitting on my legs, having my cock in her pussy. I watched her shaking boobs. Then she turned around and I watched her ass.

We did this action for 5 minutes. Then we changed to another action. She laid in side position and I put my cock in her pussy and taking my cock in & out. In this action, my balls touched her big round ass and I was feeling like having anal sex. I enjoyed this action.

It took 15-20 minutes to cum me. Cheki told me to come on her body. I did as her advice. She rubbed my milk on her body. She went to bathroom to clean her pussy and I cleaned my cock with tissues. I made drinks for cheki and me. She came out naked. We had drink together. After having drinks, I wore pajama and cheki put only underwear. It was 4 am in morning, when we went to bed for sleep.

We slept until 12 pm in afternoon. We woke up, when my friend saeed phoned me. He inquired when we could go out. I asked him about his girlfriend. He told me that she left around 11 am in morning.

We decided to go out around 4pm. Cheki was woke up after hearing the phone bells. I kissed her. She asked me if I liked one more fuck. I told her that I am tired. She offered me blowjob. But I refused. And we slept again.

It was 3:00 pm, when we got out from bed and went to bathroom together. And stayed there for 20 minutes. I brushed my teeth and shaved, while cheki filled the tub with hot water and we lay in for 15 minutes. Cheki soaped me and bathed me. She cleaned her pussy and I watched her. We came out and changed the clothes. I ordered room service for black coffee. I paid cheki 1500 bath. She thanked me, and I thanked her for friendly sex.

Wait for part 4

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Retired Army
11-17-08, 17:17
Whenever I go on holiday for 2 months or less, I always buy a house, but only when people aren't looking, (even if they are trustworthy) because I'm shy about things like that.

I only rent something if I plan to stay more than 2 months, and then I don't care if people are looking or not because I'm only renting.


Sorry, you lost me... I ain't got a clue!

Daddy07
11-17-08, 19:17
Sorry, you lost me... I ain't got a clue!
Just having fun with Amer Tun who likewise gave me no clue. :)

Iseeu
11-18-08, 01:15
Holiday begins in 10 days, BKK shortly thereafter. Getting lots of interest and phone #s. Hope for some daytime entertainment, just hope its not more trouble than its worth. Saw one of my 1st TGF's on a porn site on line, thats helped me get over her. So if you've had experience w/TLL I'd like to hear. PMs always welcome.
Look for my post from last week with details of my TLL experience and success (es).

M P Lurker
11-18-08, 03:11
Sorry, you lost me... I ain't got a clue!
Its called "Taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)" out of someone.

M P Lurker
11-18-08, 03:15
Well, it's an illusion that OTH and I hated each other. The arguing was just a bit of theatre. Where is the old bigot anyway? Hope he's not cavorting with those PAD puppets.

Almost anywhere is preferable to London.

You do have a reputation for being cranky and knocking just about everything.
So we look forward to some more positive reports if and when you actually get to have a good time in LOS :)

Mik99
11-18-08, 09:45
A few years ago I managed to get fantastic testicle massage and later a great handjob from a Chang Mai girl.

A few weeks ago I found this great map on internet

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.733132,100.565758&spn=0.029057,0.039697&z=15

One of the places on it :Naka Japanese Health Massage says to specialize in this area so I went all the way over there with a taxi (645/25-26 Petchaburi Road). A bit difficult to find but I managed to slip in there from the back alley.

The place was quite old and dirty. The reception staff showed me the treatment on a laminated paper. It was something like

30 Min massage good for blood circulation...
15 Min hot towel treatment
20 Min testicle massage good for...
20 Min use of hand pump and so on.
All together this would take 1h40 min for 750 B.

Agreed and then my massage girl showed up. 25 years and no English. She took me upstairs and the place was smelly. She asked me if I wanted VIP room for extra 50 B and I said OK.

The room was dirty and moldy but the bed looked clean.

She started with a quite bad massage and I was looking at the watch for 30 min for it to be finished. I was lucky only took 20 min.

Then she started with some towel massage on my dick for 3 min and then some half ass testicle massage for 3 min.

She then started with an average oily handjob, nothing extra at all. I shoot my load after 10 min or so and then she left the room for 10 min or so.

When she came back she started to do her average massage again and after 10 min I had enough and I left.

I told the receptionist that it was not what I was prommised. I paid 500B and left. This place was dirty, didn't deliver and not worth a visit.

Bearsk
11-18-08, 10:59
... the Thais are generally much more concerned and don't want to kiss or embrase in public ...

This is a big contrast to some European societies that are very kissy and huggy when meeting even just friends. Long term bargirls can lose the ability to discern when they should act very prim and proper and when they can be wayward. These are types that you don't really want to be with.

This sort of etiquette is important sometimes.
If I am looking for a new gal, I look for certain things apart from the obvious ...
Some sort of family or temple attending value set, some "koyness" and if they dress in almost nothing that they have a pair of jeans in their bag or somewhere close. Outside the bar or where ever, I always ask if its Ok to even hold hands.
if you walk into the hotel with the girl dressed like a tramp and with your tongue down her throat and hands all over her - you may not care BUT when she comes to leave, the staff may not help with a taxi. One of my early experiences was with a very nice girl I met at a restaurant where she help serve for her family. She met me later for a drink and on heading back we held hands going into the hotel. When she left later that night, the bell man told her that: "*****s get to beg for another ride on the corner." She called my room and told me and I called a car service to pick her up before i went to wait with her in the lobby. I later quietly organized for the bellman to find work elsewhere.

She has progressed in her career and she still favors me on occasion but i have never seen the bellman again.

Terry Terrier
11-18-08, 12:12
You do have a reputation for being cranky and knocking just about everything.
So we look forward to some more positive reports if and when you actually get to have a good time in LOS :)
But Mick, it's my job to be ISG Thailand's Victor Meldrew :D (google if you never heard of). It's a tough one, but someone has to do it.

M P Lurker
11-18-08, 14:37
A few years ago I managed to get fantastic testicle massage and later a great handjob from a Chang Mai girl.

A few weeks ago I found this great map on internet

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.733132,100.565758&spn=0.029057,0.039697&z=15
.....

I told the receptionist that it was not what I was prommised. I paid 500B and left. This place was dirty, didn't deliver and not worth a visit.

You should really be using the Bangkok MP (Massage) Thread.
If you research there tou will find out more anout the more popular places.

Satrai2000 mentioned Naka as something to go on the Map,
but more popular places get some stars against them.
Previous Naka Reports:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=787776&postcount=1683
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=787827&postcount=1684

You can get good testicle massage. I believe Rin at Hana is supposed to be an expert. Akane 33, for example, on the Map has code TestM (Testicle Massage avail)

But ask on that thread which are the very best exponents of "balls massage" and I am sure you will get some recommendations.

Neil Flanders
11-18-08, 19:39
Hi guys,

First and foremost, thanks for making this forum such an informative place.

I need special advice from you though:

I'm coming to BKK soon. I'm toung and I screw hot girls in my country.

I'm willing to p4p in BKK, because it's cool and there is gf bullshit after, but I want to fuck the best looking professionnals of the city, real stunners.

It doesn't matter if they are pornstars as long as they fuck ok.

Where should I go then? Mp, go-go, freelancers?

Your recommandations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Neil Flanders
11-18-08, 23:53
Hi guys,

First and foremost, thanks to all of you for making this forum such an informative place.

I need some special advice from you guys though.

I am coming soon to BKK.

I am young and not bad looking, I have dated many hot girls in my country.

So if I am considering to P4P in BKK it is because:

-I have no time for dating and I want to enjoy my holidays.

-I really want to fuck model-type asian girls. Girls that would clearly be unreachable in Europe.

Most of the girls in the forum's photo gallery are really common looking, way less hot than asian chicks I can see in the streets in Europe.

I know some of you guys privilege service more than anything else, but for me look is definitely the most important.

So what places should I go to in BKK to find top-looking girls? MPs? Go-go bars? Hotel bars with freelancers? .

All your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Wendella
11-19-08, 07:13
Most of the girls in the forum's photo gallery are really common looking, way less hot than asian chicks I can see in the streets in Europe.

I know some of you guys privilege service more than anything else, but for me look is definitely the most important.


Good luck, this is a question that gets posted pretty often and never fails to attract people who want to shoot down your preference. I say that having been on the receiving end myself. Get ready. "What do you want that for?" they'll say. As if desire for a beautiful woman is some kind of mental deformity. From what I've come across here (and haven't tried myself yet) the best bets are the gentlemen's clubs and also the coyote clubs. They're both more expensive than the typical scene. If you have any interest in the go-gos, then stop first at Rainbow 4 in Nana Plaza, which has the top selection in the looks dept (quantity plus quality). May be able to find another bar with one who is nicer, but you wont' find a full stage of them as in RB4. Others may have ideas about massage places but my own experience in that directoin has been disappointing. Whenever I try massage places (on the occassional visit to BKK) I head to whatever places are recommended (Poseidon, etc.) and just never do spot the must-have girl in any of those places, but just yet more of the nothing-special types. Models indeed.

I always see hotter girls in person there than I ever see in this sad photo gallery we have. I've learned my lesson and just steer clear of the photo gallery.

Crocodilexp
11-19-08, 09:35
-I really want to fuck model-type asian girls. Girls that would clearly be unreachable in Europe.

So what places should I go to in BKK to find top-looking girls? MPs? Go-go bars? Hotel bars with freelancers? Jo,

I think MPs along Rachada Road (Poseidon, Emanuelle and such, Google for MPs) would be your best bet if you have limited time, don't care much for dating/GFE, and if looks are your #1 factor in choosing.

Minimal hassle, best looks, decent (but never outstanding) service. Price/performance ratio is not amazing (4-5k baht for what you can pretty much get for 1k with an ok-looking street meat), but I think a good fit for you on the first holiday.

Don't let the taxis take you to MPs, and avoid Phetchaburi road (many MPs there, but not high quality IMO). Do your research and go there yourself, e. G. Take subway to Huay Kwang station and walk along, can't miss them.

Agogos provide a great show, but most are too much hassle IMO and girls are rather plain for the price they ask. G-Clubs are for those with lots of time and money who are happy to splash a lot of cash around even if it's not certain they'll get laid in the end. Freelancers. Are hit and miss, you may try upscale hotels (e. G. Novotel/CM2 disco), but I don't think most are amazing looking.

Do note that Thailand PFP is not so much about the looks as it is about GFE and a relaxed atmosphere. The latter, IMO, can't be found anywhere except Th/Phil. If Asian-model-looks are your main goal, perhaps look into Singapore (more variety in looks), or Macau.

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Warbucks
11-19-08, 12:32
Hi guys,

First and foremost, thanks to all of you for making this forum such an informative place.

I need some special advice from you guys though.

I am coming soon to BKK.

I am young and not bad looking, I have dated many hot girls in my country.

So if I am considering to P4P in BKK it is because:

-I have no time for dating and I want to enjoy my holidays.

-I really want to fuck model-type asian girls. Girls that would clearly be unreachable in Europe.

Most of the girls in the forum's photo gallery are really common looking, way less hot than asian chicks I can see in the streets in Europe.

I know some of you guys privilege service more than anything else, but for me look is definitely the most important.

So what places should I go to in BKK to find top-looking girls? MPs? Go-go bars? Hotel bars with freelancers? .

All your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

In 06 first couple of times in Thailand hung out in Bangkok and Pattaya strictly Go-Gos… just grabbed the girls who looked like they were eager to go with…..07 came around I was little bit more seasoned but spent most of my time in Bangkok and had mixed experiences in the looks department. Had more deuces then 10s. One of my most beautiful bar fines was in Pattaya ‘06 the place Opebo is such an advocate of. Last trip I tried to be very choosy this time in the looks department but you don’t want a Ferrari with no engine. I was satisfied in both areas so can’t complain. If looks is really all you are after a high class escort service I am sure will do the trick but the most beautiful girls you will ever see in Bangkok are the ones not turning tricks.

M P Lurker
11-19-08, 13:44
....

Most of the girls in the forum's photo gallery are really common looking, way less hot than asian chicks I can see in the streets in Europe.

....
Jo,

There are a number of factors likely to be contributing to this view.

1. Its generally low class girls that are willing to appear nude and have their faces shown in the photo gallery. So often below average standard. More discerning guys don't like to show girls faces. But have a look at Photos by Fon Tok.
If you still don't think much of those girls, then Thailand is clearly not the place for you.

2. In my opinion the percentage of stunning Asians in the street in Europe is not that high. Why is this? Perhaps you like a different style to what I do. Perhaps you like whiter skinned rounder faced Chinese (for example) where I go for a more Thai look.
In my opinion average looks of Thai girls is better than average looks of most Asian Countries and of many foreign countries as well. But others would disagree.

3. Only a small percentage of Thai girls that are slim have big natural tits. So Thailand is probably not the best place for guys liking very big tits.

4. Nice looking girls often don't appear totally nude.
Here is a pretty girl IMHO with a great all natural body in one of my past posts:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=778217&postcount=1510
So we can get to have sex with girls of this standard.
But only a small percentage of bar girls look this good.
The reason? Rich men come and steal the hottest girls away from the bars. They don't last too long because they get choices and get offered something better.

Joe Nailer
11-19-08, 13:45
you do have a reputation for being cranky and knocking just about everything.
so we look forward to some more positive reports if and when you actually get to have a good time in los :)

well, where would they go then?

"anyone who knowingly pays illegally trafficked women for sex could face [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charges, while kerb crawlers could face prosecution for a first offence.

there will also be more "naming and shaming" of kerb crawlers and new police powers to close brothels.

buying or selling sex is legal but soliciting and pimping are not."

full strory:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7735908.stm

Jackzonian
11-19-08, 21:11
Jo:

Sure. Hotties are everywhere. I steer clear of the MP's because I like to have a gal in my room, take my time on my terms. The Gentleman's clubs are high buck for basically the same girls. Normally, I prefer Nana Plaza gogo's, and like another comment earlier, there are tons to choose from. There is always going to be one or two 9's. Even in the smaller clubs, invariably there is one that belongs on the cover of a fashion mag.

For the cost of one beer you can enter and hang for a while, survey the place and there is bound to be a model-quality stunner.- absent the height, probably. But here's the thing. In my experience, if you zone right in on her and call her over, she knows you are way keen and will ask for the high number, say 2000Bt.- and likely stick to that figure. On the other hand, if you can get her attention casually and play it with reasonable cool, you can hang out for the standard rate. Which is not to say you want to stiff her (sorry), but you don't want to get hosed either (sorry).

I agree with the other posts: many of the pix here don't do justice to the quality and volume of very good looking fillies. No disrespect to the posters, in general life, not that many people take a good pic.

Soi Cowboy is good, Pat Pong can be a rip-off and the gals there are typically all bizness. If you pull chicks where you are from, you'll have no trouble getting a super-fine filly agree to go with you for pretty short money.

There are pretty girls on the street but it is hit-or-miss quality-wise if they are even on the game. Finally, Pattaya has really really high volume of ladies generally.- if you don't bump into a smoking hottie there, you have to try another galaxy. They're there.

More later,

J

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Wendella
11-20-08, 08:09
Here is a pretty girl IMHO with a great all natural body in one of my past posts:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=778217&postcount=1510
So we can get to have sex with girls of this standard.
But only a small percentage of bar girls look this good.

Now that's what I'm talking about. I have to say, I've never seen anything that looked that good in the Photo Gallery here. Never. And I suspect you need to do a lot of looking where ever you look to find one like that.

Anyway, is the story as sad as you suggest, that she was soon afterward snatched up by some rich guy? Didn't get digits? Don't worry, I'm not gonna ask for them, just curious if you made a concerted effort to hang onto her, and if so, how that turned out. If I was in Thailand and she was still there at her massage, of course I'd be going to get a massage there now and not wasting my time typing here. ;)

M P Lurker
11-20-08, 08:34
Now that's what I'm talking about. I have to say, I've never seen anything that looked that good in the Photo Gallery here. Never. And I suspect you need to do a lot of looking where ever you look to find one like that.

Anyway, is the story as sad as you suggest, that she was soon afterward snatched up by some rich guy? Didn't get digits? Don't worry, I'm not gonna ask for them, just curious if you made a concerted effort to hang onto her, and if so, how that turned out. If I was in Thailand and she was still there at her massage, of course I'd be going to get a massage there now and not wasting my time typing here. ;)
You haven't been watching the threads, mate.
Just a few days back someone else went to see the same MP girl, said her body was fab, the session was O.K., but wasn't exactly fantastic. YMMV. As a regular of her's, I may get a better GFE than others.

Wendella
11-20-08, 08:46
True, no, I haven't been. Does me no good since I'm not in Thailand now. Oh well. Nice work on the find.

M P Lurker
11-20-08, 08:56
True, no, I haven't been. Does me no good since I'm not in Thailand now. Oh well. Nice work on the find.
I am such a good hearted guy, that I am usually willing to report and share. No truthfully, orginally I posted her pic but no name or number. Then some bright spark found her photo on the MP web page and matched up the face characteristics, so there was no point in denying her name or number any more.

Betong
11-20-08, 16:41
I may get a better GFE than others.This is something that a lot of people here, especially newcomers, don't seem to understand. So much of any commercial sex experience here depends on really individual factors -- personal chemistry, the way you treat them, your Thai or lack of it, their mood that particular day, etc. etc. All the recommendations here are a good starting point, but there's absolutely no guarantee that you're going to get exactly or even roughly what someone else got. Ultimately I think the best discoveries are very often the ones you make for yourself.

M P Lurker
11-21-08, 00:30
This is something that a lot of people here, especially newcomers, don't seem to understand. So much of any commercial sex experience here depends on really individual factors -- personal chemistry, the way you treat them, your Thai or lack of it, their mood that particular day, etc. etc. All the recommendations here are a good starting point, but there's absolutely no guarantee that you're going to get exactly or even roughly what someone else got. Ultimately I think the best discoveries are very often the ones you make for yourself.
Posts are merely an indicator of type of experience that is possible with the right attitude.

No one is a sure thing.
But if a place/girl gets consistent bad reports then guys will know that this place might be best avoided.

M P Lurker
11-21-08, 00:37
Jo:

Sure. Hotties are everywhere. I steer clear of the MP's because I like to have a gal in my room, take my time on my terms. The Gentleman's clubs are high buck for basically the same girls. Normally, I prefer Nana Plaza gogo's, and like another comment earlier, there are tons to choose from. There is always going to be one or two 9's. Even in the smaller clubs, invariably there is one that belongs on the cover of a fashion mag.

There are a few good reasons for frequenting MPs:
1. More discreet for guys with full time wife or GF
2. Less wasted time for guys with only 2 hours to spare for the experience
3. There are some girls in MPs that are exceptionally good looking that can be booked in advance. Its not always so easy to get to the No. 1 girl in a bar (could be busy with someone else for days) and no reliable booking system.

Kuratla
11-21-08, 03:45
There are a few good reasons for frequenting MPs:

1. More discreet for guys with full time wife or GF
2. Less wasted time for guys with only 2 hours to spare for the experience
3. There are some girls in MPs that are exceptionally good looking that can be booked in advance. Its not always so easy to get to the No. 1 girl in a bar (could be busy with someone else for days) and no reliable booking system.For myself, I'll frequent an MP over Nana any day because I know what I'm getting - ie, a full on sexual experience. In go-go bars, you can spend half the night hunting for the girl you want but, when you take her back to your room, she can easily turn out to be a useless fuck, completely inexperienced, or, at worst, a total starfish.

Your whole night wasted on a worthless screw.

The PSEs I get from a place like Tulip ensures that I need not go anywhere else.

Rocksoff
11-21-08, 08:38
Pat Pong can be a rip-off and the gals there are typically all bizness.

Typically, yes .. but I ran into a bright-eyed sweetie there (in one of the smaller gogos) who has been treating me very nicely for a couple of months, and has never mentioned money. Well, of course I pay her, just as she steps into the taxi to leave, but she has never counted it in front of me or asked for more ..

I've been wondering whether I should accept her invite to go to her family place a bit south of Bangkok .. still scared ..

PinkPearl
11-21-08, 09:10
The following is what I posted in the Safe Sex thread as I thought it would also be relevant to the scene in Bangkok, Thailand.

I like kissing and have kissed more hookers than that in Bangkok, plus just as many crack and or heroin addicted SWs in my home cuntry. And over five years and dozens, maybe hundreds, of hours of nothing but kissing, I have never contracted Mono, so maybe you were just very unlucky. Although I generally avoid tongue kissing, and keep my saliva to myself as much as possible with open mouth kissing and expect the lady to do so also.

Overly wet lips on her are not a pleasure for me, though I keep mine well oiled with lip balms, both flavored and medicated as a preventative. And of course keep it freshened with listerine, sugarless gum, and mints.

Recently a P4P TG told me Thai girls do not like to kiss. In my experience though it is easy to find TGs who are willing to do so, and they actually have kissed better than those mentioned above in Canada.

Just as no two ladies lick balls alike, no two women kiss the same. And if one is very particular or picky about how they want to do it, then they may have some difficulty finding the right girl for them. In BKK you can find everything in the range of those who will kiss only softly with their mouth closed to those who are into wild and crazy deep french slobering.

Personally I require something inbetween these two extremes. And often enjoy smooching for up to one or two hours at a time. This is too long for most ladies, as it would also be for most for genital intercourse. But to some TGs kissing is considered an easier form of work than sucking or fucking, so getting together with me can a nice break for them if all we do is kiss. Some claim to enjoy kissing and their actions seem to back that up, whereas others show that they are obviously not into it, so I quickly dump them if they are not good for anything else.

Of course avoid kissing or doing anything with anyone with obvious sores on their mouth, face, pussy, or asshole.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Run Mann
11-21-08, 09:18
Typically, yes .. but I ran into a bright-eyed sweetie there (in one of the smaller gogos) who has been treating me very nicely for a couple of months, and has never mentioned money. Well, of course I pay her, just as she steps into the taxi to leave, but she has never counted it in front of me or asked for more ..

I've been wondering whether I should accept her invite to go to her family place a bit south of Bangkok .. still scared ..
If you do accept her invitation, be sure to report back about the money situation after visiting her family.

PinkPearl
11-21-08, 10:13
Do note that Thailand PFP is not so much about the looks as it is about GFE and a relaxed atmosphere. The latter, IMO, can't be found anywhere except Th/Phil. If Asian-model-looks are your main goal, perhaps look into Singapore (more variety in looks), or Macau.Personally I find many many ladies in BKK, whether *****s or not, to be very attractive. And I am here longtime for the fucking, sucking, licking and kissing, not for a GF or any experience that resembles a GF.

PinkPearl
11-21-08, 10:24
This is something that a lot of people here, especially newcomers, don't seem to understand. So much of any commercial sex experience here depends on really individual factors -- personal chemistry, the way you treat them, your Thai or lack of it, their mood that particular day, etc. etc.And the number one factor for a positive experience. Baht.

Phil Istine
11-21-08, 12:05
Spent a few nights in BKK recently after a long period away. Found many girls asking crazy prices in nana plaza and bars around there. Two thousand short time and six hundred bar fine-fuck off.

And I speak some thai and the girls know that I know the story.

One nice girl in the car park, miaeau-1000 short time, no worries.

If I see you again when my khmer wife is not nearby youré on.

Apart from that, bars are dismal.

Went to tulip massage the other afternoon-fucken great.

Why would you play bargirl roulette when you get such service at a massage parlour.

I came three times, twice up her arse for all up 2300!

I am an old ****, first time like that for over 25 years.

Hard to beat that!

Betong
11-21-08, 18:23
And the number one factor for a positive experience. Baht.I'd have to disagree. It takes baht to get in the door of course, but beyond that, the amount you pay usually isn't a major factor in how good it is.

Zahle
11-21-08, 19:48
Jo,

There are a number of factors likely to be contributing to this view.

1. Its generally low class girls that are willing to appear nude and have their faces shown in the photo gallery. So often below average standard. I totally agree that the standard that is seen in the photo gallery, isn't the average standard of girls, that you will find in BKK. I have had my luck with many very attractive girls, that have been letting me take pictures, nude. However I think the reason that you don't see that many photos of the better looking girls here, is that guys have more respect for the more beautiful girls, and if they make an agrement, not to post their picture, they will not post it.

I don't agree that it has to do with the girl being lowclas, but then again. I don't speak Thai. I can't really tell if a girl is Hi or lo class. I just go for the looks.

I hope this makes sense.

Jens Hansen
11-22-08, 01:20
Hi all,

I am considering taking a lay-over in BK during the first week of January – any perspectives on whether the scene here is alive during that week or if I should look else where?

Tratnguyen1
11-22-08, 05:13
This is the 4th. Consecutive of my holidays / vacation trips to BKK.

The mongerings scenes are the same with a lot of MP'S and lightweight on Nana and Soi Cowboy go go bars.

Definitely, I am enjoying the sure bets that I can get from MP. 'S girls for a 2500baht session. With a decent GFE. Style. The bars are now full of sharks who are real hungry with the downturn of economy in NEP.

It is great just to come for a few drinks and the shows, but it may not well worth the money and effort to bring back to the hotel.

However, the overall BKK experiences are well worth long haul trip from USA. At anytime.

DG69
11-22-08, 05:39
My 4 weeks holliday is almost over. I spent 1 week in BKK, 2 weeks in Pattaya and than the last week in BKK.
Both places have pros and cons. But, over all I can say I prefer BKK. Imho BKK has more beauties, also more choices. I prefer Free Lancer from discos or beer garden because no bar fine, no lady drinks and no 3rd party involved. Also, the hunt for the prettiest girl in the club is one of the main pleasure. In Gogos, it's too easy. You just point to the girl you like, pay a lady drink, deal about the price, barfine and that's it.
Nornally I go to Gogos just to bridge the time before the discos and clubs get busy. But, yesterday I had a very nice experience with a gogo girl. It must be years since I barfined a gogo girl.
Were in Mandarin in NEP. Somehow the Mamasan recocgnized me from a previous holliday. Must be in another gogo, since I was first time in Mandarin. She is a very kind lady asked what girls I prefer. I explained, I like girls with round, big asses and small waists. I know that is very seldom in Thailand.
Mamasan found one from the top stage from that bar. She is 19, looks a bit like Gogo from the movie Kill Bill and undressed she had really a very sexy hardbody. Ok, not really a big ass, but compare to the size of the waist the hips and ass have the right ratio.
Will say even when she was petit, she had curves and that is important. I don't like the usual strait und underdeveloped Thai girls bodies. I really hate flat asses.
Well, the girl, her name is Me if I understand right, was very sweet and hot in Bed. The only draw back was that she didn't speak English very well. The only thing what she could say was I love you. ;) Well was a bit funny to hear it from her under the shower, during sex and when we part.
She asked in the bar first for 2000 ST. Than reduced to 1500 ST and agreed to do anal. After that I thought well, even when 1500 Bhat + 600 Bhat Barfine for a short time is more what I pay freelancer for LT, I want try.
I do not regret, the sex was very good, the girl was just one month in business, but not shy did everything without asking for. I felt a bit pitty to ask her to go after ST. I guess she would like to stay LT, since she did not made attempts to leave after 2 hours.
After that I went to Spice Club, met there a girl from my first meeting. She looks really very good, white skin, tall, sexy body, do anal, always funny and happy. No, problems next morning to get rid of her. Price was 2000 Bhat LT.

M P Lurker
11-22-08, 06:44
... She is a very kind lady asked what girls I prefer. I explained, I like girls with round, big asses and small waists. I know that is very seldom in Thailand.
Mamasan found one from the top stage from that bar. She is 19, looks a bit like Gogo from the movie Kill Bill and undressed she had really a very sexy hardbody. Ok, not really a big ass, but compare to the size of the waist the hips and ass have the right ratio.
Will say even when she was petit, she had curves and that is important. I don't like the usual strait und underdeveloped Thai girls body. I really had flat asses....
First I point out that Thai currency is Baht ot THB is O.K.
So often we see Bath and Bhat. Being a pedantic I can't resist LOL

But on more interesting stuff, I am a bottom and curves man myself. The ideal bottom should be like a full ripe peach or apricot. another thought is the bum cheeks should be like an upside down heart shape. firm but with a bit of giggle and wobble.

I don't find Thai girls bodies to be all that straight.
I course I don't frequent Nana Plaza with lots of straightish ladyboys.
I find Chinese girls to be often a bit too straight for me with flatish bums too common.

"airw lek sapork yai" is the Thai expression for small waist but wide at the thigh area. which is what I prefer. I am not a massive tit man especially if silicone. But i nnever complain about natural C or D cups if not saggy.

Two other points. It looks more sexy to me if a girl has a nice 2-3 cm gap betweenthe top of her legs. If they bash together, then she iis too fat for me.
The ideal waist to thigh ratio should be 0.6 to 0.7 (50 to 70%) to make a nicely curvy figure. LBs will usually be too straight and above 0.7. I have seen girls with ratio less than 0.6 but it looks a bit too exaggerated.

I know most of you mongers are into evaluating girls in such a mathematical way. ;)

DG69
11-22-08, 07:58
First I point out that Thai currency is Baht ot THB is O.K.
So often we see Bath and Bhat. Being a pedantic I can't resist LOL

The ideal waist to thigh ratio should be 0.6 to 0.7 (50 to 70%) to make a nicely curvy figure. LBs will usually be too straight and above 0.7. I have seen girls with ratio less than 0.6 but it looks a bit too exaggerated.

I know most of you mongers are into evaluating girls in such a mathematical way. ;)

Well, I appologize about the wrong spelling of the Royal Thai Currency.;)

I share your preferences regarding curvy figure. Just I think a Thai girl with a hip to waist ratio from 0.6 is very seldom, even 0.7 is seldom. If a slim Thai girl have waist circumference from lets say 60 cm (which is about 24 inch) than she needs to have hips from 100 cm (40 inch) circumference to have a ratio from 0.6. That you might find in south Europe, Middle East, South America often, but on East Asia such is very seldom.
For example Beyonce Knowless has a very curvy figure. A quick check in the internet will teach that her measurement are 33-26-42. That would be a ratio hips to waist from 0.62. Other info is that her measurement is 36-24-34 and thats a ratio of about 0.7. So, how ever Beyonce is about 1.69 or 5'7". For smaller Thai girls such curves are almost impossible.

I recognize LB almost ever. They seems to know about the magic of hip to waist ratio and you often can see (at last in Pattaya) that they use had some operations in that regard. Cut out of lower rips, to get a smaller waist and filling of silicon at hips and butt. So, they looks sometimes really bizzare.

I agree Chinese girls are imho even more straight and have less curves than Thai girls. Though there are enough guys who like it just in that way.

Mangofan
11-22-08, 12:21
Was out last night for a few drinks and popped over to soi 22. Walked down past that pretentious "Ice" bar and found some nice ladies at the bar attached to the Honey Restaurant, to the left of that little Honey plaza. Very very small bar, but there were some hotties inside so decided to take a look. Sat down with a hottie named "Nit". After some touching and kissing, bought her a drink. Was a very friendly bar - kind of like the ones you see down on soi 6 in Pattaya, except these girls were actually good looking. Anyway, I talk to her for awhile and ask about the barfine. 500 baht, and she wanted 2000 for ST and 4000 for longtime. Beer nearly came out of my nose. Haven't been quoted those prices since a Suzie Wong supermodel last February, and this girl was nowhere near as good looking as the Suzie Wong's girl. Tried to negotiate but she was adamant, so I fucked off home and had a wank.

I think next month I'll finally go over and try Tulip. Experiences like this keep happening in this city (mainly in the bars). It's not like I look rich - I was wearing cargos and a beach t-shirt. I'll save my money for Tulip or Pattaya where I can get better value.

DG69
11-22-08, 14:31
I think next month I'll finally go over and try Tulip. Experiences like this keep happening in this city (mainly in the bars). It's not like I look rich - I was wearing cargos and a beach t-shirt. I'll save my money for Tulip or Pattaya where I can get better value.

No, need to wank or go to Pattaya or Tulip. In Tulip the pop cost you also 1900 Baht.
Got yesterday a quote from a girl in a gogo in NEP, from 1000 ST. She is very pretty, barfine 600 Baht and 1000 Baht ST. Well, I would have done it, but when I asked if she could see me after work in Spice Club, she told "can not because am 17". Well, of course this was a no go, for me to take her, even when she was very hot and kisses very sweet. Well, after that I took the girl from Mandarin.
FL in Spice or other clubs ask for 2000 LT, some even less. Depends on many factors. Some who are very pretty, but not long in business may ask less, than others whose look not so nice, but worked already in Singapore or Hongkok. So, in Bangkok it's hit and miss.

Best advice, when you get bad prices in one bar, try the next. Bars with no or not much customer, might be a good choice. Girls might be desperate to make some business. Could imagine that the gogos in Patpong might be a good place now. Not much customer, at least such who barfine. So, girls might go down with price, or agree to meet outside the gogo after work.

Jayf1970
11-22-08, 16:34
This is the 4th. Consecutive of my holidays / vacation trips to BKK.

The mongerings scenes are the same with a lot of MP'S and lightweight on Nana and Soi Cowboy go go bars.

Definitely, I am enjoying the sure bets that I can get from MP. 'S girls for a 2500baht session. With a decent GFE. Style. The bars are now full of sharks who are real hungry with the downturn of economy in NEP.

It is great just to come for a few drinks and the shows, but it may not well worth the money and effort to bring back to the hotel.

However, the overall BKK experiences are well worth long haul trip from USA. At anytime.

Not sure what you mean by "full of sharks", Tratnguyen1. Is that a good thing or bad? I would have thought now is probably a good time to visit, as the girls would be hungry for business and likely give better service. Also, less competition for the good girls.

Zahle
11-22-08, 21:33
I share your preferences regarding curvy figure. Just I think a Thai girl with a hip to waist ratio from 0.6 is very seldom, even 0.7 is seldom.y.You seem to be very specific about the sizes. Theres a girl at Baccara (Soi Cowboy), on the glass floor who always reminds me of Beyounce. I don't remember her number. But I find her very atractive

I'm not sure about the exact size.

M P Lurker
11-23-08, 00:44
I share your preferences regarding curvy figure. Just I think a Thai girl with a hip to waist ratio from 0.6 is very seldom, even 0.7 is seldom. If a slim Thai girl have waist circumference from lets say 60 cm (which is about 24 inch) than she needs to have hips from 100 cm (40 inch) circumference to have a ratio from 0.6. That you might find in south Europe, Middle East, South America often, but on East Asia such is very seldom.
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No need to worry about the tape measure. Just do the width by eye. I was talking about distince from one side to the other. We cannot go round measuring all the girls carefully.
It may be slightly easier to meet the criteria this way.

Contrary to what you say, quite a lot of Thai girls do manage to get under the 0.7 although I will concede 0.6 is rare in any Country and less than that, seen only occasionally, looks quite strange and not even desirable.

M P Lurker
11-23-08, 00:51
Anyway, I talk to her for awhile and ask about the barfine. 500 baht, and she wanted 2000 for ST and 4000 for longtime. Beer nearly came out of my nose. ...

I think next month I'll finally go over and try Tulip. Experiences like this keep happening in this city (mainly in the bars). It's not like I look rich - I was wearing cargos and a beach t-shirt. I'll save my money for Tulip or Pattaya where I can get better value.
A girl prices herself higher than Tulip but may well be crap in bed.
Thats why MPs like Tulip are valuable. Reliable and don't have to negotiate.

Tratnguyen1
11-23-08, 04:33
Imho, BKK is still a No brainer for a mongering trip. Maybe I come from an old school and take the convienence of BKK over the adventurous sites like Manila or Jakarta. The baht is running weak and this is a better time to visit my USD is streching up to 35B. Vs. 30B only 6 mos. Ago.

Okay, I had more bad experience with the hungry girls, the sharks. In NEP. The good news is just happened last night when I visited the Country road bar and take out a beauty in services and only 3mos. In the game. The beauty offered LT. For 2000baht and I just Can't say no eventhough I already Had my fills in the MP early.

So, I can call that a Home run and try to keep her for the next couple days.

DG69
11-23-08, 05:37
Not sure what you mean by "full of sharks", Tratnguyen1. Is that a good thing or bad? I would have thought now is probably a good time to visit, as the girls would be hungry for business and likely give better service. Also, less competition for the good girls.

I guess he means the girls are now very eager to get a Lady drink or barfined. It sounds good, but of course it can be a bit awkward, since almost only the ugly girls in the bars will be desperately try to squeeze a lady drink out of you. The pretty ones don't need that.
Checked yesterday some gogos in NEP in which I usuall not go. The Rainbow gogos were full like everyday. The smaller ones Lollipop, Vodoo, Mandarin second floor, Hollywood, etc where not real fun. As soon as I sat one or two girls were on my side and tried to grind out some money from me, with the usual questions, like were are u from? What's your name? Who long will you stay? etc. On the dance floor were no pretty girls imho. So, I tried to leave the clubs as soon as possible. Couldn't say that I found one good one in NEP yesterday.
So, I went to Soi Cowboy. Wow, I were in one club which was really outstanding. It was Tilac. It was full and difficult to find a free place. No, waitress asked my what I want to drink, since all were busy. On the dance floor some really hot dancer. It was really relaxing not to be the center of attention and just could enjoy the nice views. So, Tilac was really like an Oasis in a desert. Some of the girls were really stunning, better than everything I saw until now even in the Rainbow bars.
Those real stunning girls were different dressed, than the other girls. They had no numbers. I am not sure, but I thing I saw them before in Spice Club as professional dancers. I guess those girls are either were expensive, or can not be barfined at all. I did not ask the staff, since I just enjoyed the view.
Later tried some other bars in Soi Cowboy, like Baccara, Midnite, Sharks, etc. Not bad but also nothing special.
At the end I took a FL girl from Spice disco, which I didn't regret.

I ask myself how all those bars with less customer and especially all those little street stalls which sell T-Shirts, Throusers etc can survive. Specially those T-Shirt stalls, looks not like a good investment. There are hundreds at Sukhomvit and most likely thousands over all Bangkok which all sell the same kind of T-Shirts. Looks that they don't sell much over the day.
They build up there little stall in the afternoon and dismantle it late at night, maybe not selling on thing. Even when, I guess the profit per T-Shirt can't be high. Poor people indeed.

@Zahle and Mick Licker, of course I do not tape the girls, but of course I check with eyes only. I think in Thailand you will find less curvy girls than in Africa, Europe, or America. Of course in North /Middle Europe and most likely North America nowadays girls became more bolt and less femine.
From Asia, I think that one who like curvy girls find better selection in Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines. I was never in Vietnam so I don't know the situation there, but saw alot of Vietnamese girls in Germany were I usual live. Thailand is of course a great place to spent the holliday. Over all it's the best place imho, just imho it's not as easy to find a curvy Thai girl.
Those stunners I saw yesterday in Tilac were tall and had small waists and round hips. So, really they could have 0.7 ratio between waits and hips, but what they didn't had were round fleshy backsides. Not what you can see in those rap videos.;)
Well Zahle, thank you for the tip, I saw also a very curvy girl in Pattayas Airport Gogo. It's a quite new one in the walking street. Girls outside the bar and the waitresses wear Stewardess dress. Now, you can see that dress in many gogos in Pattaya. In Soi Cowboy the marine look is on vogue. Many gogos have girls at the entrance with that dress.

M P Lurker
11-23-08, 06:16
....
Those stunners I saw yesterday in Tilac were tall and had small waists and round hips. So, really they could have 0.7 ratio between waits and hips, but what they didn't had were round fleshy backsides. Not what you can see in those rap videos.;)
Well Zahle, thank you for the tip, I saw also a very curvy girl in Pattayas Airport Gogo. It's a quite new one in the walking street. Girls outside the bar and the waitresses wear Stewardess dress. Now, you can see that dress in many gogos in Pattaya. In Soi Cowboy the marine look is on vogue. Many gogos have girls at the entrance with that dress.
Sounds like while I like slim but curvy, you are probably looking for a lot more meat. While I like a 45 kilo girl (50 if taller), perhaps you like 60 kg with big booty.

DG69
11-23-08, 07:30
Sounds like while I like slim but curvy, you are probably looking for a lot more meat. While I like a 45 kilo girl (50 if taller), perhaps you like 60 kg with big booty.

You are right, that's my preference. Unfortunatelly in Thailand such girls tend to get chubby and have the kilos on the wrong places. Not at the ass or hips, but around the waists or legs.

M P Lurker
11-23-08, 08:03
You are right, that's my preference. Unfortunatelly in Thailand such girls tend to get chubby and have the kilos on the wrong places. Not at the ass or hips, but around the waists or legs.
See my MP post pic for a ratio of about 0.65 on a bigger girl but not chubby:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=816196&postcount=2074

Safariman
11-23-08, 08:44
Please advise me: I arrive at 13. 00 and leave with next flight 20. 00. Any chance for some fun and games in Bangkok in such a period? Would like to go to Eden or Tulip, but. If I have to watch all the time my watch the fun wouldn't be too big. Please advise where to find the nearest assured action near the airport.

Thanx!

DG69
11-23-08, 12:27
See my MP post pic for a ratio of about 0.65 on a bigger girl but not chubby:



Well, not bad but you can see the backside is flat.

Have a look at the girls butt at the last and the thired photo. They have a bit flesh, which I prefer. The girl from the last photo was from Philippines.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=600202&postcount=661

Also, the girl on that photo is from the Philippines and her butt was great. Though she was a mixture, some spanish blood involved.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=709833&postcount=2852

Well, I need to post some more photos, but I don't like all this resizing of the pictures.;)

M P Lurker
11-23-08, 13:21
Well, not bad but you can see the backside is flat.

Have a look at the girls butt at the last and the thired photo. They have a bit flesh, which I prefer. The girl from the last photo was from Philippines.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=600202&postcount=661

Also, the girl on that photo is from the Philippines and her butt was great. Though she was a mixture, some spanish blood involved.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=709833&postcount=2852

Well, I need to post some more photos, but I don't like all this resizing of the pictures.;)
Well it isn't flat to my taste, taunt and not flabby, but its nothing like a black girl's buns.

Can't tell much from your photos about the butt protrusion as they are not standing in a natural straight position, but I'll have to take your word for it. Bending over doesn't really help in a flat photo medium.

I haven't got the perfect shots either but here is the best I can do for a pretty good well developed bum for my taste, on a dancing student:

(its not too arduous with PIXResizer that somebody posted the link to in Photo Gallery).

DG69
11-23-08, 14:43
Well it isn't flat to my taste, taunt and not flabby, but its nothing like a black girl's buns.


Well black girl's buns, are also not my preference shape. I know I am complicated. Black girls tends to have asses were you can place a bottle of beer on it when she stand. But, their hips are often small, not the perfectnupside down heart shape, I prefer. Mulatas or Latinas have inho the best butts. Broad, round, bubble butts. Also, nice butts you can find in eastern Europe and middle East.

Well, when I am back in England I will try to post some more photos. Just my private internet is slow (UMTS) since it was too complicated to get broadband in England and I will only stay one year.

Well, to come back to topic, it's possible to find girls with great butts in Thailand also, just the average Thai girl has usually a flat butt. So, it's a challange to chase the one with nice butt, long legs, small waists, round hips and pretty face. I would rate such a girl with at 9 at least. ;)

Michi
11-23-08, 15:05
I guess he means the girls are now very eager to get a Lady drink or barfined. It sounds good, but of course it can be a bit awkward, since almost only the ugly girls in the bars will be desperately try to squeeze a lady drink out of you. The pretty ones don't need that.

Checked yesterday some gogos in NEP in which I usuall not go. The Rainbow gogos were full like everyday. The smaller ones Lollipop, Vodoo, Mandarin second floor, Hollywood, etc where not real fun. As soon as I sat one or two girls were on my side and tried to grind out some money from me, with the usual questions, like were are u from? What's your name? Who long will you stay? etc. On the dance floor were no pretty girls imho. So, I tried to leave the clubs as soon as possible. Couldn't say that I found one good one in NEP yesterday.

So, I went to Soi Cowboy. Wow, I were in one club which was really outstanding. It was Tilac. It was full and difficult to find a free place. No, waitress asked my what I want to drink, since all were busy. On the dance floor some really hot dancer. It was really relaxing not to be the center of attention and just could enjoy the nice views. So, Tilac was really like an Oasis in a desert. Some of the girls were really stunning, better than everything I saw until now even in the Rainbow bars.

Those real stunning girls were different dressed, than the other girls. They had no numbers. I am not sure, but I thing I saw them before in Spice Club as professional dancers. I guess those girls are either were expensive, or can not be barfined at all. I did not ask the staff, since I just enjoyed the view.
Later tried some other bars in Soi Cowboy, like Baccara, Midnite, Sharks, etc. Not bad but also nothing special.

At the end I took a FL girl from Spice disco, which I didn't regret.

I ask myself how all those bars with less customer and especially all those little street stalls which sell T-Shirts, Throusers etc can survive. Specially those T-Shirt stalls, looks not like a good investment. There are hundreds at Sukhomvit and most likely thousands over all Bangkok which all sell the same kind of T-Shirts. Looks that they don't sell much over the day.

They build up there little stall in the afternoon and dismantle it late at night, maybe not selling on thing. Even when, I guess the profit per T-Shirt can't be high. Poor people indeed.

@Zahle and Mick Licker, of course I do not tape the girls, but of course I check with eyes only. I think in Thailand you will find less curvy girls than in Africa, Europe, or America. Of course in North /Middle Europe and most likely North America nowadays girls became more bolt and less femine.

From Asia, I think that one who like curvy girls find better selection in Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines. I was never in Vietnam so I don't know the situation there, but saw alot of Vietnamese girls in Germany were I usual live. Thailand is of course a great place to spent the holliday. Over all it's the best place imho, just imho it's not as easy to find a curvy Thai girl.

Those stunners I saw yesterday in Tilac were tall and had small waists and round hips. So, really they could have 0.7 ratio between waits and hips, but what they didn't had were round fleshy backsides. Not what you can see in those rap videos.;)

Well Zahle, thank you for the tip, I saw also a very curvy girl in Pattayas Airport Gogo. It's a quite new one in the walking street. Girls outside the bar and the waitresses wear Stewardess dress. Now, you can see that dress in many gogos in Pattaya. In Soi Cowboy the marine look is on vogue. Many gogos have girls at the entrance with that dress.Tilac has coyotees on Fri and Sat. Uite cute, but not really available as the dancers.

Spice has them every day now I think. No normal dancers left anymore. Too bad it went to that extreme!

Zahle
11-23-08, 23:56
Well black girl's buns, are also not my preference shape. I know I am complicated. Black girls tends to have asses were you can place a bottle of beer on it when she stand. But, their hips are often small, not the perfectnupside down heart shape, I prefer. Mulatas or Latinas have inho the best butts. Broad, round, bubble butts. Also, nice butts you can find in eastern Europe and middle East.I think the big problem with the latinos is the hair.... they have hair on their stomach and on their back. In my opinion, the sweetest of all asses belongs to the Thais, Indonesians or Malays. Small and round Mmmm :-) me gusta

Tratnguyen1
11-24-08, 03:14
I must come to a conclusion on my own experience after many visits NEP and Soi Cowboy regarding BG. The stunning girls are still in great demand even during the economic downturn. Let's face it. There isn't many of the stunner around for a full crowd. That left all the ugly hungry shark to go hunting the customer and I see Hollywood bar and Skoolplay are good. Example. The Rainbows bars girls are somehow less aggressive that leaves me having time to relax and enjoy the show and also pick out the BG. Soi Cowboy BG. Scenes are much less chaotic mode than NEP. I particulary like the Country road bar with all American band music and the pool tables here, a touch of States.

The girl who chose me only push for LT 2000baht and frankly she turned out a real GFE style. We went back to soi Nana for dinner at Busstop and go bar hopping in the NEP. I only made a statement that I was not happy with the ugly sharks who push drinks and lucky balls for nothing in return.

M P Lurker
11-24-08, 04:11
I must come to a conclusion on my own experience after many visits NEP and Soi Cowboy regarding BG. The stunning girls are still in great demand even during the economic downturn. Let's face it. There isn't many of the stunner around for a full crowd. That left all the ugly hungry shark to go hunting the customer and I see Hollywood bar and Skoolplay are good. Example. The Rainbows bars girls are somehow less aggressive that leaves me having time to relax and enjoy the show and also pick out the BG.A couple of years back Rainbow 2 or 3 (I forget which), up the stairs on the left as soon as you come in, was one of the most aggressive bars I ever found with mamasans and bar staff hassling all the time.

Has it improved?

I found the Soi Cowboy bars to be much more relaxed at that time and have hardly been back to NEP. Not really missing the LBs too :)

One day checked out Rainbow 4 but maybe a bit too late in evening and talent was nothing so special at that time.

Iamnaughty
11-24-08, 04:59
Bros, . Very sad, . I'm landing at 12 midnight this time and I will need to take the flight back on the same day evening. Will definitely miss EDEN. Whats the best place to monger between 12. 00 midnight and 6. 00 AM? Escorts only option? Or any massage places, Bars, Clubs, HELP!

DG69
11-24-08, 05:35
@Michi, I can confirm that the Coyotee Dancer in Tilac didn't worked yesterday. So, most likely they are only there at weekends. It's a pitty because they were by far the most pretty girls I saw so far in the Gogos in Thailand. In Macati /Philippines I saw similar pretty ones. They are available, but the barfine is extremly high.
Saw some Coyotee dancer in one of the other bars next to Tilac. But, they were by far not so sexy like the Tilac dancer.
@Zahle, not all Latinas are such hairy monster and usually they shave their hairs. Colombia or Venezuela are good examples. Ah, few years ago you could see many Colombian Hookers in Frankfurt. Since about 10 years the immigration department don't let them in, when there is the slightes doubt. So, nowadys you find more eastern Europe chicks in the Frankfurt scene. The Colombian and Venezuelian hookers were great. Great bodies, shaved and in very good shape. They train very hard at steppers.
, or what ever to get nice legs, butts and waists.
@Mick Licker the rainbow bars are not more pushy than the bars in Soi Cowboy. Ok, Tilac is a exception. Tilac seems always full, so no need to get pushed. But, the not busy bars in NEP and also Cowboy are still pushing customer to take a lady.

Bearsk
11-24-08, 06:46
I think the way girl looks counts better than measurements.
I spent 3 days in BKK last week, very quiet in usually places and Soi22-33 priced high for not much talent. Beergarden a little dead.
I resorted to prior contacts, had a great time: measurements: 33A-26-34, 32B-25-33, 34A-27-36 (girl confesses my old BL told me I have big bum; great shape though). I actually had a great time, they all have hot bodies. The girl with the 32B-25-33 is my favorite but its more about the GFE and fun level. I could go for larger tits but they have to be good shape and feel and plastic is a real turn off.
There was one SW with a slightly fuller figure and great face near Soi 5 on Suk Rd. I had sat with my girl having a drink nearby and my girl went to talk to her - from ChonBuri off bus, little English, probably 18. She took phone number to call if I decided I wanted her to come back with us. You may think that is service for you but my girl made every effort to ensure that I needed nothing extra on last night in town.



You seem to be very specific about the sizes. Theres a girl at Baccara (Soi Cowboy), on the glass floor who always reminds me of Beyounce. I don't remember her number. But I find her very atractive

I'm not sure about the exact size.

Monopoly
11-24-08, 06:47
Gentlemen,

How much should a Taxi from the airport to Sukumwit soi 4 area cost? (Not including tolls and surcharge)

I think I was over charged?? as the meter read 327 Baht not including tolls / surcharge which brought the total close to 450 Baht!

Thanks

M P Lurker
11-24-08, 07:12
I think the way girl looks counts better than measurements.
I spent 3 days in BKK last week, very quiet in usually places and Soi22-33 priced high for not much talent. Beergarden a little dead.
I resorted to prior contacts, had a great time: measurements: 33A-26-34, 32B-25-33, 34A-27-36 (girl confesses my old BL told me I have big bum; great shape though). I actually had a great time, they all have hot bodies. The girl with the 32B-25-33 is my favorite but its more about the GFE and fun level. I could go for larger tits but they have to be good shape and feel and plastic is a real turn off. ....
Seems you are more interested in measurements than most. Many girls might not even know their measurements and I never ask. I have asked about cup size on occasions just so that I become aware of what is A, B, C, and D, and so I can give accurate details in my reports. Perhaps that is your purpose too.

Slim girls with natural D cup must rare as hen's teeth in Thailand but I have found a few slim girls having C cup.

Hummer Bird
11-24-08, 07:17
Well, not bad but you can see the backside is flat.
Have a lo... http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=600202&postcount=661
Also, ,,,,,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=709833&postcount=2852
Well, I need to post some more photos, but I don't like all this resizing of the pictures.;)

Great Taste DG69! My kind of girls for sure!!! I am right with you on the black and Columbian girls asses! If the Thai girls could achieve this then you would have paradise without concessions. I had to look long and hard to find girls like this, and sometimes I would spend the whole night just to end up with a last chance chick. It can be really amazing how selective we become once the meat is so plentiful. Right now I would take most any Thai body tonight!!! Thank goodness for my Ghanaian BSW! 25.00 US for FS and no condom!!!!! Her pussy is so tight it could jettison a sausage several yards!
Cheers DG69, and please more PHOTOS of the chicks with the hot faces MAN!!!!!
HB

M P Lurker
11-24-08, 08:44
Great Taste DG69! My kind of girls for sure!!! I am right with you on the black and Columbian girls asses! If the Thai girls could achieve this then you would have paradise without concessions. .....

Thank goodness for my Ghanaian BSW! 25.00 US for FS and no condom!!!!! Her pussy is so tight it could jettison a sausage several yards!
Cheers DG69, and please more PHOTOS of the chicks with the hot faces MAN!!!!!
HB
So what the ... are you guys doing in Thailand if you you prefer Columbian and black girls? :confused:

I do like Columbian and occasional black girl too but have so far found Columbian girls in Europe to be not quite as GFE as Thai and black girls mostly not pretty enough and tending to flab. I do prefer slim. Did meet one "Halle Berry" look alike but she had far too much attitude.

Also black girls tend to have rough pussy hair if not clean shaven. Some Thais have just a few wisps of the softest fluff.

Bearsk
11-24-08, 10:08
I only know this because I take then underwear and jeans shopping when i am in town. Robinson's measures them up in metric ... I have applied for the job ... at least on a part time basis.


Seems you are more interested in measurements than most. Many girls might not even know their measurements and I never ask. I have asked about cup size on occasions just so that I become aware of what is A, B, C, and D, and so I can give accurate details in my reports. Perhaps that is your purpose too.

Slim girls with natural D cup must rare as hen's teeth in Thailand but I have found a few slim girls having C cup.

Bearsk
11-24-08, 10:13
Check bags on onward flight. Get boarding pass. Set up flight status report to mobile phone. Taxi to Tulip. Be back in taxi by 1730 or so because of traffic. Done.


Please advise me: I arrive at 13. 00 and leave with next flight 20. 00. Any chance for some fun and games in Bangkok in such a period? Would like to go to Eden or Tulip, but. If I have to watch all the time my watch the fun wouldn't be too big. Please advise where to find the nearest assured action near the airport.

Thanx!

DG69
11-24-08, 12:27
So what the ... are you guys doing in Thailand if you you prefer Columbian and black girls? :confused:


As said before, over all Thailand is the best place for a holiday. If Colombia would be as safe, as cheap, as friendly, etc as Thailand, I would go there.

Btw, there are now alot black girls available in Bangkok. In Soi 3, Soi Africa (?) small soi at Soi 3 and between soi 3 and soi 5. Before there were the CIS girls, now the African girls are there. Had not taken one, since she asked for 3500 LT (I asked just because I was curious) and I guess I will not be able to take her to my Hotel, since those girls will not have an ID Card.

Also, alot of African people in Bangkok. Saw yesterday in Chinatown some African girl, who bought alot of stuff. I guess they start a trade like before CIS girls, who traveled to Turky, worked as prostitutes, bought with the money T-Shirts and other stuff, whose they sold in Ukraine or Russia for a little profit. Maybe the African girls do the same. Buy some cheap textile in Chinatown and sell it in Africa for an higher price. Some will say, is not worth the effort, since the flight alone is expensive, but it seems to work.

@Hummer Bird. Seems we made the same experience. I chase often in Discos like Spice, Spicy or Tunnel. In Tunnel I was just once, during the week. Wasn't full, had to wait until 2 pm before some nice chicks arrived, also it was fucking cold there (aircon). At 2 pm there came 3 girls with one guy. Two of the girls were real stunner. One I would rate with 9 or even 9.5. The girls flirted with me, but I thought I sall wait until it get fuller to see what else will be available. Bad decision, the 9.5 girl was taken very quick. The other girl started a conversation with me. She was pretty and tall but a bit to slim for my taste. She workes as a hir dresser in Thonburi (just over the Chaopraya River). Didn't asked for the price. I decided to check Spicy, since Tunnel was still empty. In Spicy was alot action. Mostly young crowd even the Farangs and Indians/Arabs, guess Students or sons from Expats, something like that. Also, alot of CIS girls, there. One of them (I think she was from Tashkent) asked me if I want LT with her. She asked for 100 Dollar, but in the same sentence she said I can have discount. Well, I wasn't interested but guess 2000 or 2500 would be possible.
This night I went home alone. It was 4 pm, I was tired and not more in the mood for sex. But, in the morning after I woke up I just called a girl I knew from Spice Club and so I had a late morning action.

Piper1
11-24-08, 14:31
1Ball was in bed with his new Thai girlfriend. After having great sex, she spent the next hour lovingly stroking and licking his penis. Enjoying it, he asked her: 'Why do you love doing that?'

She replied: 'Because I really miss mine'.

Duniawala
11-24-08, 16:52
Gentlemen,

How much should a Taxi from the airport to Sukumwit soi 4 area cost? (Not including tolls and surcharge)

I think I was over charged?? as the meter read 327 Baht not including tolls / surcharge which brought the total close to 450 Baht!

Thanks
Fare: about 220-250
Toll: 65
Airport surcharge: 50

DeepVoid
11-25-08, 01:37
This is a quick report of 2 quick layovers in BKK. It’s been a while since I got to play here so my objective was to pack as much mongering as possible then limp onto the plane.

I arrived well after midnight and by the time I got checked into Livingstons everyone had gone home. It was during the memorial for the princess. I was too tired to run in circles so I decided to call it a night. This was my first time at Livingstons Lodge. It will not be my last. Guido was still there and he got me a beer and we talked politics till late at night. I will be back to take full advantage of their awesome hospitality.

The next day was a short day before my flight so I decided to head over to Tulips. My original plan was thwarted by the holiday. Tuiips was fun. There were only 2 girls there so not much choice. The girl I got was a bit on the plump side but very fun. Had a short oil rubdown, then many positions, then another rub down. The second session was also a lot of fun. I tried the backdoor which she let me try but she was so tight I didn’t make much progress and went back to doggy. I will try again next time.

A couple days later I was back for a couple hours. I went straight to Eden Club to have a full blown raunchy time. I picked my two girls, one from the left and one from the right that were all smiles but once in the room things just didn’t jive. Eden to me is supposed a no holes barred experience that you drive. One girl was very bossy. Don’t touch here, don’t touch here. It was very mechanical and frankly I got to the point where I wanted it to be over. Oh, they also turned down the lights even when I asked for them to be on. I have been to Eden and Hell club numerous times. This is the first time I left wishing I hadn’t come.

Took a long nap, got some dinner and decided to see what was happening at Nana. OMG it was so quiet. I went into a couple clubs and found myself pretty much bored. Got in a cab and headed to Soi Cowboy. Most of the clubs were slow except for Baccara & Tilac.. I ended up at a small club called Apache Cayote. This is a strange small place where there is a long narrow stage on one side with a bench and tables on the other. 6 girls at a time were dancing nude and shifted to the left after each song. I was beat when I got in and was not ready to be joined yet a sweet looking girl sat by my side. I decided to pass until I got settled in. Soon an absolutely adorable thin girl was dancing. When she got off the stage I called her over. Her name was Pin and had only been in town a month or two. She was a teacher back home. You know the story, got pregnant, boyfriend leaves, mom take care of the baby so girl can make money. I pay bar fine and off we go.

It’s always a gamble whether the girl is fun or not. I was soooo lucky. This girl has GFE. She started a bit shy but we had a blast all night until I had to leave at 3am. I am so sorry to leave her. She would have been a lot of fun to hang around with for a couple days. Oh well. Anyway, if you end up with Pin from Apache Coyote please be nice to her.

PinkPearl
11-25-08, 05:16
Gentlemen,

How much should a Taxi from the airport to Sukumwit soi 4 area cost? (Not including tolls and surcharge)

I think I was over charged?? as the meter read 327 Baht not including tolls / surcharge which brought the total close to 450 Baht!

ThanksLast year it was around 200 every time for a half hour trip. Then you are supposed to add I think 50 according to a slip given for metered taxis at the international airport. Tip extra.

Because these taxis offered no seat belt and drove like maniacs in cars of sometimes questionable condition, I have resorted to taking hotel and airport limos for 500 all included.

M P Lurker
11-25-08, 09:04
Gentlemen,

How much should a Taxi from the airport to Sukumwit soi 4 area cost? (Not including tolls and surcharge)

I think I was over charged?? as the meter read 327 Baht not including tolls / surcharge which brought the total close to 450 Baht!

Thanks
You forgot to make sure he reset the meter first most likely.
I have had to remind them on occasions.
But lucky its not a fortune.

In Lisbon, I had already asked the taxi price at the airport, so I refused to pay him any more than 10 Euros (or 15 I forget) since he had not reset the meter and was already up to many Euros at the airport exit road.

Brain Damaged
11-25-08, 10:31
1Ball was in bed with his new Thai girlfriend. After having great sex, she spent the next hour lovingly stroking and licking his penis. Enjoying it, he asked her: 'Why do you love doing that?'

She replied: 'Because I really miss mine'.

There's bloody coffee all over my keyboard and up my nose! That was funny.

I'll be arriving Bangers next week Tuesday...may move there in December.

Cheers,
BD

Mangofan
11-25-08, 13:38
I went straight to Eden Club to have a full blown raunchy time. I picked my two girls, one from the left and one from the right that were all smiles but once in the room things just didn’t jive. Eden to me is supposed a no holes barred experience that you drive. One girl was very bossy. Don’t touch here, don’t touch here. It was very mechanical and frankly I got to the point where I wanted it to be over. Oh, they also turned down the lights even when I asked for them to be on. I have been to Eden and Hell club numerous times. This is the first time I left wishing I hadn’t come.


I've never been to Eden (too expensive for my taste) but I believe that the owner guarantees satisfaction or your money back. You might have had a case with this experience.

Mouse1
11-25-08, 14:22
Fare: about 220-250
Toll: 65
Airport surcharge: 50... so go up to Arrivals, cross the road and grab a cab before they are moved on by the police. Offer them 300 Bht (including tolls on the Expressway) and they will bite your arm off.

Run Mann
11-25-08, 14:37
. I went straight to Eden Club to have a full blown raunchy time. I picked my two girls, one from the left and one from the right that were all smiles but once in the room things just didn’t jive. Eden to me is supposed a no holes barred experience that you drive. One girl was very bossy. Don’t touch here, don’t touch here. It was very mechanical and frankly I got to the point where I wanted it to be over. Oh, they also turned down the lights even when I asked for them to be on. I have been to Eden and Hell club numerous times. This is the first time I left wishing I hadn’t come.

Most customers are satisfied with the service at Edens but it's not unusual that there are some bad reviews. They have a pay only if you are satisfied policy, you should have stopped the session and let the girls and management know that you were not happy. By taking what the girls dished out, you actually contributed to the poor service you received and perhaps these girls will feel empowered to repeat their act with other customers who are too timid to speak up.

JoseMarti
11-25-08, 14:56
Chatted with this girl online and decided to meet her. She looked really cute in her pic. In person she was so-so. I met her in Khonsan Rd. We want had a few beers at some bar on the street.

We then headed to Gulliver's. Apparently FL work there. She actually told me to be careful and not go with them :) So this place definetly had FLs. I did not find out the going rate. She met her friends there too. Only one was cute who was totally not interested in me. Decided to bail on them at 12:45am.

Headed to Nana Plaza, had a beer at Big Dogs. Met a girl there who asked for bar fine and 2K short time.....hmmmm......

Waited till 2am until the chicks flocked out of Nana. If you have not seen this, it is really a site worth seeing. Could not get the attention of any of the girls.

Walked towards Beer Garden to see if I could get a FL off the street. Picked one up, she said 1K ST adn 2K LT..... asked her for LT.

Headed back to my place which is not far from Nana. Once in the room, she said she was shy, did not want to take a shower together...ugh...bad news.

Got her into the shower with me, took a shower and then onto the bed. She hid under the covers saying she was shy. I tried to kiss her all over to get her aroused. She had the nicest pussy I have seen. Natural never shaved hair. Only hair on top and none on the lips....unfortunately I was really pissed and wanted to get this over with. Put on the cover and banged her mish, asked her to flip and she lay there on her tummy and did not even stick her ass out for doggy...:(

Finally came and then threw her out after paying her 1K.

Hope tonight is better.

-JM

Run Mann
11-25-08, 15:40
... so go up to Arrivals, cross the road and grab a cab before they are moved on by the police. Offer them 300 Bht (including tolls on the Expressway) and they will bite your arm off.You mean departures.

Btw, PAD just closed Suvarnabhumi airport, interesting to see how this plays out

Michi
11-25-08, 16:27
Check bags on onward flight. Get boarding pass. Set up flight status report to mobile phone. Taxi to Tulip. Be back in taxi by 1730 or so because of traffic. Done.Only trouble: be prepared to have to pay the departure fee of BKK airport of 500TBT to get back into the departure.

But easily possible othertwise.

Did it. Liked it. Will do anytime again given the opportunity.

Retired Army
11-25-08, 18:15
Gentlemen,

How much should a Taxi from the airport to Sukumwit soi 4 area cost? (Not including tolls and surcharge)

I think I was over charged?? as the meter read 327 Baht not including tolls / surcharge which brought the total close to 450 Baht!

Thanks


You probably paid about $2 too much. is that really worth loosing sleep over?

Purple 2006
11-25-08, 18:18
Hi!

I would be transiting through BKK next month.

In 2006 I had pulled off a good transit fun in Eden. That time I guess it was old Airport and I had 6+ hrs with me. It was comfortable.

How far is Sukhumvit from new Suvarnabhumi Airport? I would had some 5+ hrs with me. Is the traffic predictable these days or still it is bad BKK traffic? Also, I will have to spend 45min-60min for Visa on arrival.

Does anyone think 5+ hrs is enough to go to Eden and come back? (15:00 to 20:30 hrs)

Regards

Purple

Thor93
11-25-08, 23:07
Only trouble: be prepared to have to pay the departure fee of BKK airport of 500TBT to get back into the departure.

.... but easily possible othertwise.
did it .... liked it .... will do anytime again given the opportunity....


The departure tax is now in the ticket. No more having to pay it in cash as you leave.

Fifty Fifty
11-26-08, 03:20
Hi!

I would be transiting through BKK next month.

In 2006 I had pulled off a good transit fun in Eden. That time I guess it was old Airport and I had 6+ hrs with me. It was comfortable.

How far is Sukhumvit from new Suvarnabhumi Airport? I would had some 5+ hrs with me. Is the traffic predictable these days or still it is bad BKK traffic? Also, I will have to spend 45min-60min for Visa on arrival.

Does anyone think 5+ hrs is enough to go to Eden and come back? (15:00 to 20:30 hrs)

Regards

Purple

This might help.

Landed at new Airport 1745 Hrs last Sunday

Exit Plane 1800; Direct to Visa on Arrival
Completed Visa and on our way by 1815
Public Metered Taxi to Sukhumvit Soi 11 at 1820
Checked In Hotel at 1850

Taxi Fare 270 Baht plus Tolls on Highway

So if you have 6 hours, you have plenty of time.

Cheers, Fifty Fifty

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 03:23
Hi!

I would be transiting through BKK next month.

In 2006 I had pulled off a good transit fun in Eden. That time I guess it was old Airport and I had 6+ hrs with me. It was comfortable.

How far is Sukhumvit from new Suvarnabhumi Airport? I would had some 5+ hrs with me. Is the traffic predictable these days or still it is bad BKK traffic? Also, I will have to spend 45min-60min for Visa on arrival.

Does anyone think 5+ hrs is enough to go to Eden and come back? (15:00 to 20:30 hrs)

Regards

Purple
What's all this Visa on Arrival crap?
I just get passport stamped at Immigration.
I presume VISA only required for long stays in Thailand for many Countries.
This web site shows how many days you can stay with no VISA at all:
http://www.thaivisa.com/479.0.html

VISA on arrival required for Countries that would be expected to try to stay in Thailand rather than return to own country LOL ;) (could be any country IMHO)

Fifty Fifty
11-26-08, 03:36
What's all this Visa on Arrival crap?
I just get passport stamped at Immigration.
I presume VISA only required for long stays in Thailand for many Countries.
This web site shows how many days you can stay with no VISA at all:
http://www.thaivisa.com/479.0.html

VISA on arrival required for Countries that would be expected to try to stay in Thailand rather than return to own country LOL ;) (could be any country IMHO)


Mick -

From your link - "15 = Can enter 15 days as tourists (Visa on arrival)"

Technically we are in the wrong thread here, but here is all the Official Crap on Thailand Visa Requirements

http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2637.php

It explains the need for Visa on Arrival (Crap) for certain Nationalities.

Cheers, FF

Daddy07
11-26-08, 04:04
What's all this Visa on Arrival crap?
I just get passport stamped at Immigration...
Thailand has agreements with several countries allowing the issuance of "visas on arrival" to citizens. When you arrive in Thailand, your passport is stamped with a short term visa, usually 30 days, without the necessity of applying to an Embassy, etc.

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 04:18
Thailand has agreements with several countries allowing the issuance of "visas on arrival" to citizens. When you arrive in Thailand, your passport is stamped with a short term visa, usually 30 days, without the necessity of applying to an Embassy, etc.
Yes but for a lot of Countries you just don't need it.

Daddy07
11-26-08, 04:22
Yes but for a lot of Countries you just don't need it.
Yeah, you're talking about other S.E. Aisa countries, such as Laos, Veitnam, Cambodia, who's citizens can come and go without a visa, just like Americans can visit Canada without a visa.

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 04:51
Yeah, you're talking about other S.E. Aisa countries, such as Laos, Veitnam, Cambodia, who's citizens can come and go without a visa, just like Americans can visit Canada without a visa.
No, No. Look at the web site I provided.
USA, UK, Australia, Germany France, etc. do not need any VISA for short stays in Thailand.
Being from Australia I can stay 30 days with no VISA.
Some countries only get 15 days with no VISA.

Daddy07
11-26-08, 07:29
No, No. Look at the web site I provided.
USA, UK, Australia, Germany France, etc. do not need any VISA for short stays in Thailand.
Being from Australia I can stay 30 days with no VISA.
Some countries only get 15 days with no VISA.
A visa is simply your permission to vist Thailand on a temporary basis. There are several different kinds of visas. When immigration stamps your passport at the airport, upon your arrival, that stamp is a visa which grants you permission to stay for 30 days. Americans can get the same. Some other countries get only 15 days with their visa, but it is still a visa.

Look at the stamp -- it says: "VISA" followed by the date you must leave Thailand.

Permission to stay for longer periods of time, and upon different conditions, require a different kind of visa obtained by application to the Thai embassy or consulate in your home country.

The website is misleading in this regard.

Maybe we're arguing semantics here. :)

Retired Army
11-26-08, 07:54
Hi!

I would be transiting through BKK next month.

In 2006 I had pulled off a good transit fun in Eden. That time I guess it was old Airport and I had 6+ hrs with me. It was comfortable.

How far is Sukhumvit from new Suvarnabhumi Airport? I would had some 5+ hrs with me. Is the traffic predictable these days or still it is bad BKK traffic? Also, I will have to spend 45min-60min for Visa on arrival.

Does anyone think 5+ hrs is enough to go to Eden and come back? (15:00 to 20:30 hrs)

Regards

Purple

At the times you have traffic can be problematic. You might make Sukhumvit in thirty minutes, you might make it in three hours. One never knows. Especially with the trouble in BKK these days.

Visa on arrivial is usually pretty quick. If you are from the U.S. you just need a stamp in your passport from immigration.

Hummer Bird
11-26-08, 07:57
I had to deal with this shit last summer. I was rushing to get out of the states and did not investigate the possibilities about duration/ length of stay. The deal is that if you apply and send in your passport to the Thai Embassy in the USA, you can apply and get a 60 day visa. I do not know the cost, but just look it up.
But if you just arrive in Thailand the only way to extend the visa is to do either a border run to Cambodia and deal with the assholes that work immigration there, or pay a shit-load of Baht (I believe it was around 180.00 dollars). at the Thai immigration and get an extra 15days WHoo HOO!.
Otherwise if your there for a short stay just opt for the free 30 day visa upon arrival!!!
Cheers
HB

Bearsk
11-26-08, 08:25
So Dude, I guess you're in diplomatic corps?
Tomorrow head to the airport dressed in gold or red and the shy girl from last night may offer to strap something on and return the favor ... if you are lucky.
Pick a SW, accept the risk?


Chatted with this girl online and decided to meet her. She looked really cute in her pic. In person she was so-so. I met her in Khonsan Rd. We want had a few beers at some bar on the street.

We then headed to Gulliver's. Apparently FL work there. She actually told me to be careful and not go with them :) So this place definetly had FLs. I did not find out the going rate. She met her friends there too. Only one was cute who was totally not interested in me. Decided to bail on them at 12:45am.

Headed to Nana Plaza, had a beer at Big Dogs. Met a girl there who asked for bar fine and 2K short time.....hmmmm......

Waited till 2am until the chicks flocked out of Nana. If you have not seen this, it is really a site worth seeing. Could not get the attention of any of the girls.

Walked towards Beer Garden to see if I could get a FL off the street. Picked one up, she said 1K ST adn 2K LT..... asked her for LT.

Headed back to my place which is not far from Nana. Once in the room, she said she was shy, did not want to take a shower together...ugh...bad news.

Got her into the shower with me, took a shower and then onto the bed. She hid under the covers saying she was shy. I tried to kiss her all over to get her aroused. She had the nicest pussy I have seen. Natural never shaved hair. Only hair on top and none on the lips....unfortunately I was really pissed and wanted to get this over with. Put on the cover and banged her mish, asked her to flip and she lay there on her tummy and did not even stick her ass out for doggy...:(

Finally came and then threw her out after paying her 1K.

Hope tonight is better.

-JM

Bearsk
11-26-08, 08:31
Sorry ... negotiate the following with PAD ... and be prepared to pay 500THB departure tax.



Check bags on onward flight. Get boarding pass. Set up flight status report to mobile phone. Taxi to Tulip. Be back in taxi by 1730 or so because of traffic. Done.

Michi
11-26-08, 10:20
The departure tax is now in the ticket. No more having to pay it in cash as you leave.Yes Thor,

If you are checking in there for stop overs you have to pay again if you left the international zone to the town.

Rgds,

Mike

Thor93
11-26-08, 14:21
yes Thor, if you are checking in there.
for stop overs you have to pay again if you left the international zone to the town.
Rgds,
Mike

Hmm, good point, but where would you pay now? They took away all of the booths that sold them. And as long as you have a boarding pass, how would the checkers know it was not on the ticket. All they look for now is the boarding pass.

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 14:51
A visa is simply your permission to vist Thailand on a temporary basis. There are several different kinds of visas. When immigration stamps your passport at the airport, upon your arrival, that stamp is a visa which grants you permission to stay for 30 days. Americans can get the same. Some other countries get only 15 days with their visa, but it is still a visa.

Look at the stamp -- it says: "VISA" followed by the date you must leave Thailand.

Permission to stay for longer periods of time, and upon different conditions, require a different kind of visa obtained by application to the Thai embassy or consulate in your home country.

The website is misleading in this regard.

Maybe we're arguing semantics here. :)
Yes we are arguing Semantics. But its not really the website that is misleading.

There is a special place at airport to apply for "Visa On Arrival" that requires forms to be filled in and a photo to be provided etc.
There are I believe now 20 Countries that this applies to.

40 priveleged countries like ours, get 30 days without having to go through all this crap as it is assumed we leave as we are supposed to, etc (I don't know the full reasons).
It is officially known as "Tourist VISA Exemption".

Details in this site:
http://www.traveller2000.com/thailand/visa/information.htm

It would cause confusion to say that just getting your passport stamped is actually "applying for VISA on Arrival".
as this is not the way that official terminology is used.

So I'm sure that Fifty fifty, for example, doesn't actually apply for "VISA on Arrival".

John Euro
11-26-08, 16:46
Yes we are arguing Semantics. But its not really the website that is misleading.

So I'm sure that Fifty fifty, for example, doesn't actually apply for "VISA on Arrival".It’S all a bit confusing sometimes when you read al these so called " VISA " regulations or exemptions. My experience is, when you fill out on your landing or arrival card, the date of your return flight, for example 5 weeks later than arrival date, they give you a 6 weeks tourist Visa Exemption automatically without any questions, this when your passport is from a country under the 30 day rule like for those 40 Country’s list.

From the required documents, they have never asked me: To show my return ticket or even the 4x6 photograph, I never paid any 1000Thb, no evidence of finance etc asked for this as a EEC citizen as Mick mentioned on: http://www.traveller2000.com/Thailand/visa/information.htm., here it’s 30 day’s for 40 Country’s –

I never had any additional questions from immigration beside the fact that the law here say’s that you must have that " fully paid return ticket " for VISA?

Looks like all these rules do not apply if you go for a " so called temporary VISA "at entry who knows, maybe only ok if no additional investigation on luggage or other suspicious subjects are done.

I arrived many times even twice last year without any return ticket and bought the return one always at Chawla travel at Patong 2 since I did not know in advance where I had to go from BKK. To be honest, I don’t want to take that risk of "no return ticket" anymore if I can avoid it (know guy’s with a bad experience on this one)

On website: http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2637.php under article 10 " Exemption of Visa requirements " it say’s 90 days for 40 countrys. Law looks different on this site than the previous one.

JE

Mouse1
11-26-08, 18:27
Yes we are arguing Semantics. But its not really the website that is misleading.

There is a special place at airport to apply for "Visa On Arrival" that requires forms to be filled in and a photo to be provided etc.
There are I believe now 20 Countries that this applies to.

40 priveleged countries like ours, get 30 days without having to go through all this crap as it is assumed we leave as we are supposed to, etc (I don't know the full reasons).
It is officially known as "Tourist VISA Exemption".

Details in this site:
http://www.traveller2000.com/thailand/visa/information.htm

It would cause confusion to say that just getting your passport stamped is actually "applying for VISA on Arrival".
as this is not the way that official terminology is used.

So I'm sure that Fifty fifty, for example, doesn't actually apply for "VISA on Arrival".Moving slightly off the subject, does anyone know if there any way for a UK citizen to get something like a long term visa eg for 12 months, that avoids the need for a stamp in the passport? For all sorts of obvious reasons...

ThaiLearner
11-26-08, 19:26
No, No. Look at the web site I provided.
USA, UK, Australia, Germany France, etc. do not need any VISA for short stays in Thailand.
Being from Australia I can stay 30 days with no VISA.
Some countries only get 15 days with no VISA.


You just complete that white card with your details name address flight details and that is your 30 day visa on arrival.

ThaiLearner
11-26-08, 19:29
Moving slightly off the subject, does anyone know if there any way for a UK citizen to get something like a long term visa eg for 12 months, that avoids the need for a stamp in the passport? For all sorts of obvious reasons...


This will help you with what you require

www.thaiconsul-uk.com

Daddy San
11-26-08, 21:39
Does any one know off hand, what the penalty is for overstaying the 30 day visa period?
What if one overstays because he is in hospital, e.g from having fucked himself half to death?

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 23:25
Does any one know off hand, what the penalty is for overstaying the 30 day visa period?
What if one overstays because he is in hospital, e.g from having fucked himself half to death?
I did it once. (Overstay the VISA exemption period). There is a fine per day of overstay that is steepish, 1000 Baht or more per day (I forget exact number).

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 23:32
...

On website: http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2637.php under article 10 " Exemption of Visa requirements " it say’s 90 days for 40 countrys. Law looks different on this site than the previous one.

JE
Here is the quote direct from that site:
"According to the Interior Ministerial Announcements dated 1 October B.E. 2545 (2002), 20 December B.E. 2545 (2002), 18 October B.E. 2547 (2004) and 6 May B.E. 2548 (2005), passport holders from 40 countries and 1 special administrative region – Hong Kong SAR – are not required to obtain a visa when entering Thailand for tourism purposes and will be permitted to stay in the Kingdom for a period of not exceeding 30 days on each visit. "

Then the 40 countries are listed.

M P Lurker
11-26-08, 23:42
moving slightly off the subject, does anyone know if there any way for a uk citizen to get something like a long term visa eg for 12 months, that avoids the need for a stamp in the passport? for all sorts of obvious reasons...
mouse1,

i think you are somewhat stuffed. passports always get stamped.
one option that is not very legal is to have two passports.

i once lost my passport, got a new one, and then the old still unexpired turned up again. at this time it was possible for me to use one passport hidden away but have the other one findable for prying eyes without all those trips to thailand.

but once the authorities notice (probably won't as long as you are consistent), the older passport will be confirep001ed and destroyed immediately, as officially its invalidated by the new one. but thailand won't know you have a new one if you have never used it in thailand :)

Fifty Fifty
11-27-08, 01:17
There is a special place at airport to apply for "Visa On Arrival" that requires forms to be filled in and a photo to be provided etc.
There are I believe now 20 Countries that this applies to.


So I'm sure that Fifty fifty, for example, doesn't actually apply for "VISA on Arrival".

Correct, Fifty Fifty is a Brit and fills in the 'White Form' just like you do. He then gets his Passport stamped with a 30 day Exemption Visa on arrival.

However, on this occasion Fifty is travelling with his Kazakh Girlfriend, who needs to apply for a 'Visa on Arrival' at the airport.

Having filled in the 'Visa on Arrival' application form (on the plane) she then presented herself at the 'Visa on Arrival' Desk, along with a Photo and the Fee of 1000 THB - Less than 10 minutes later she has a Visa for 15 days.

Now we both have 'Visas' in our passports and are both in LOS having a ball.

Cheers, FF

M P Lurker
11-27-08, 02:39
Correct, Fifty Fifty is a Brit and fills in the 'White Form' just like you do. He then gets his Passport stamped with a 30 day Exemption Visa on arrival.

However, on this occasion Fifty is travelling with his Kazakh Girlfriend, who needs to apply for a 'Visa on Arrival' at the airport.

Having filled in the 'Visa on Arrival' application form (on the plane) she then presented herself at the 'Visa on Arrival' Desk, along with a Photo and the Fee of 1000 THB - Less than 10 minutes later she has a Visa for 15 days.

Now we both have 'Visas' in our passports and are both in LOS having a ball.

Cheers, FF
Yes. Now you have made clear the distinction between the two variations, and how long it takes (even better).

Hope she hasn't been cramping your style too much ;)

Michi
11-27-08, 12:47
Hmm, good point, but where would you pay now? They took away all of the booths that sold them. And as long as you have a boarding pass, how would the checkers know it was not on the ticket. All they look for now is the boarding pass.The boarding pass not printed there.

I had to pay at the Thai counter directly.

Nauskas
11-27-08, 22:41
Mouse1,

One option that is not very legal is to have two passports.


It is not against the law to have two passports. (even valid ones) In most countries it is only illegal to enter and attempt to depart on different ones.

Post 9/11 protocol involves electronically invalidating a lost or stolen passport.

It is understandable in terms of the stamp, but once scanned you are on record forever now; shared with most all countries with direct flights between them. (and others) Consider if you can do it, so can the truly bad guys.

Hedonist
11-27-08, 23:09
Guys, I will embark on my annual pilgrimage to LOS next Friday. As of now the airport is still closed and there are rumours about a pending coup. Can somebody please provide an update on the situation down there? Is it business as usual?

FreebieFan
11-28-08, 02:07
So imagine that you tell your spouse your off for a business trip to HK. China wherever. But in fact you plan a few days of chasing pussy in BKK. As we all might do from time to time.

You have your schedule nicely worked out, and are sure the spouse won't notice. Then you rrive at BKK airport and realise that you can't get out.

Somwwhere amongst the guy now having a prolonged and enforced stay in BKK are guys who are now creating excuse upon excuse as to why they can't come home this weekend from their HK trip.

Of course there are also some guys who are saying wow. Another few days in BKK. How really really awful NOT!

Wendella
11-28-08, 04:18
Guys, I will embark on my annual pilgrimage to LOS next Friday. As of now the airport is still closed and there are rumours about a pending coup. Can somebody please provide an update on the situation down there? Is it business as usual?

What will you do if the airport continues to be closed? Got a Plan B?

NicFrenchy
11-28-08, 05:35
What will you do if the airport continues to be closed? Got a Plan B?

Easy, one can always fly to Phuket, Chiangmai... and then take the train or bus... stoping every 200 km or so for a taste of Local Pussy

Mouse1
11-28-08, 11:02
It is not against the law to have two passports. (even valid ones) In most countries it is only illegal to enter and attempt to depart on different ones.

Post 9/11 protocol involves electronically invalidating a lost or stolen passport.

It is understandable in terms of the stamp, but once scanned you are on record forever now; shared with most all countries with direct flights between them. (and others) Consider if you can do it, so can the truly bad guys.Thanks, I don't fancy going down the route of 2 passports, as could lead to a lot of problems, and in view of the nature of my job, certain loss of employment...
My wife knows that I fly on Thai Airways and make a stopover there, but does not normally know for just how long. On my last visit I bought some ink stamps from MBK which I use to blur the date on my visa stamp, although I guess that I can only do this for so long! My previous passport was chock full of visa stamps so not too obvious, but now I have a more limited itinerary the Thailand date stamps seem to leap out at me!

Opebo
11-28-08, 11:09
Guys, I will embark on my annual pilgrimage to LOS next Friday. As of now the airport is still closed and there are rumours about a pending coup. Can somebody please provide an update on the situation down there? Is it business as usual?

No, it is most certainly not business as usual. You will in all probability not be able to come to the country, even if you want to. It is advisable, in my opinion, to change your trip to the Philippines (Angeles City), or possibly Cambodia (the best way into the latter now is through Kuala Lumpur, though those flights may be full now). Or possibly cancell altogether and delay travel.

Fslag338
11-28-08, 15:21
I just heard from an official from China Airlines that they are organizing flights from Chang Mai to Europe (in my case to Amsterdam).

Boccaccio
11-28-08, 17:46
I just heard from an official from China Airlines that they are organizing flights from Chang Mai to Europe (in my case to Amsterdam).True. My flight from Italy next tuesday has been diverted to CM.

Thor93
11-28-08, 19:35
So imagine that you tell your spouse your off for a business trip to HK. China wherever. But in fact you plan a few days of chasing pussy in BKK. As we all might do from time to time.

You have your schedule nicely worked out, and are sure the spouse won't notice. Then you rrive at BKK airport and realise that you can't get out.

Somwwhere amongst the guy now having a prolonged and enforced stay in BKK are guys who are now creating excuse upon excuse as to why they can't come home this weekend from their HK trip.

Of course there are also some guys who are saying wow. Another few days in BKK. How really really awful NOT!

I was thinking the same thing. If you were not supposed to be there, you are in big trouble. You better take the first train south to KL that you can.

On the other hand if you are legally there on business and on the expense account, it could actually be a good thing.

My fear though is that this standoff is very likely to get nasty and dangerous. I don't see PAD backing down and peacefully leaving the airport. At some point though, someone has to go in there and get them out. If they don't go peacefully, the airport could be damaged and out of commision for some time.

Gagoo
11-29-08, 01:33
Chatted with this girl online and decided to meet her. She looked really cute in her pic. In person she was so-so. I met her in Khonsan Rd. We want had a few beers at some bar on the street.

We then headed to Gulliver's. Apparently FL work there. She actually told me to be careful and not go with them :) So this place definetly had FLs. I did not find out the going rate. She met her friends there too. Only one was cute who was totally not interested in me. Decided to bail on them at 12:45am.

Headed to Nana Plaza, had a beer at Big Dogs. Met a girl there who asked for bar fine and 2K short time.....hmmmm......

Waited till 2am until the chicks flocked out of Nana. If you have not seen this, it is really a site worth seeing. Could not get the attention of any of the girls.

Walked towards Beer Garden to see if I could get a FL off the street. Picked one up, she said 1K ST adn 2K LT..... asked her for LT.

Headed back to my place which is not far from Nana. Once in the room, she said she was shy, did not want to take a shower together...ugh...bad news.

Got her into the shower with me, took a shower and then onto the bed. She hid under the covers saying she was shy. I tried to kiss her all over to get her aroused. She had the nicest pussy I have seen. Natural never shaved hair. Only hair on top and none on the lips....unfortunately I was really pissed and wanted to get this over with. Put on the cover and banged her mish, asked her to flip and she lay there on her tummy and did not even stick her ass out for doggy...:(

Finally came and then threw her out after paying her 1K.

Hope tonight is better.

-JM



Interesting.... I met a girl online a couple months ago when I was in BKK, I met her using DIA website. She also liked to go to Gulliver's on Khaoshiung Rd. I never went to Khaoshiung road before so she met me in Gullivers near Nana the next night, then we headed over to Gullivers on Kaoshiung later that night, we soent a couple hours playing pool and dancing downstairs.
I had to fly very early the next morning, so I said I need to go back to my room. She never asked if I wanted ST or LT or anything else, so I didn't know what was going to happen. We found me a cab and she asked If I wanted her to go, of course I said yes. We went to my room, we showered and did the dirty deed. I had to leave for the airport 90 minutes after we finished, so I slept for a little bit and got ready to leave. She still didn't say anything about money. It felt like an akward position,.. if I give her money for sex it might offend her if she doesn't do such things, but if she did want money and didn't give her some, who knows what would happen. I was on my last moments in Thailand so I decided to give her 1,500 Baht and said here, use this to get a passport and I'll buy you a plane ticket to see me in Bahrain (on my way moving there). No visa needed for Thai people. She never did get a passport, but after a couple months she says send her money for passport and she will get one, and she did. I bought her a ticket and she got here about a week ago. She'll stay about 7 weeks. I'll attach a pic, no nuddies, sorry.

I'm not sure how you can't get attention standing in front of Nana at 2AM.
The easiest way is walk across the street to Nana hotel, girls just stand there waiting for a sexy man, or should I say, a man with money. I got a good looking one, she asked 1,500 Baht ST, then I pointed to the Dynasty Inn across the street and said my hotel is over there, I'll give you 1,000. She took the offer.

Oh... also with the BKK airport closed, I know of some Thai ladies here that were supposed to go home, but are stuck here in Bahrain.

M P Lurker
11-29-08, 03:14
Interesting.... I met a girl online a couple months ago when I was in BKK, I met her using DIA website. She also liked to go to Gulliver's on Khaoshiung Rd. I never went to Khaoshiung road before so she met me in Gullivers near Nana the next night, then we headed over to Gullivers on Kaoshiung later that night, we soent a couple hours playing pool and dancing downstairs.
"Khaoshiung' looks like some place in China. Thai names don't have a "sh" sound at all.
You must mean "Khao San" road. I see the previous guy spelt it rather wrong too. There is no perfect spelling in English but we can get close sometimes.
It sounds like "Cow Sarn" for English speakers.

Incidentally "Khao Saan" means "Plain milled white rice".
This web site shows how to pronounce it:
http://www.thai-language.com/id/207320

Good place for teenagers and hippies with not much money.

NicFrenchy
11-29-08, 07:04
It sounds like "Cow Sarn" for English speakers.

Hahahahaha yes, many cows at Khao San... the "Braided" type. :D

PinkPearl
11-29-08, 08:16
Guys, I will embark on my annual pilgrimage to LOS next Friday. As of now the airport is still closed and there are rumours about a pending coup. Can somebody please provide an update on the situation down there? Is it business as usual?The airports in BKK are still closed, but there are other ways to enter and exit the city and cuntry.

A coup is possible, but nothing to worry about, and my guess is that a reelection is more likely.

Now is an excellent time to cum as far as the ladies are concerned. Their business is so bad I am suddenly getting phone calls from girls I hadn't seen or contacted in a month or two. It hasn't been that hard to pick up a bargain priced stunner or two. And service seems to have improved as well.

Traveler1234
11-29-08, 14:58
I was thinking the same thing. If you were not supposed to be there, you are in big trouble. You better take the first train south to KL that you can.

One of my execs from KL justed emailed me - he caught the bus to Hat-yai (20 hrs) and then connected to another bus to KL, arriving 4 am.

Betong
11-29-08, 16:16
. . . he caught the bus to Hat-yai (20 hrs)From Bkk? It's 12 hours, 13 at most.

Tiger 888
11-29-08, 21:39
One of my execs from KL justed emailed me - he caught the bus to Hat-yai (20 hrs) and then connected to another bus to KL, arriving 4 am.I had to take a bus to Hatyai about 11 months (last days of December) ago because all flights were full for several days. If you take a bus, don't forget earplugs. The music they play on buses are nothing short of torture. 12 hours is about right. The only problem was that at the southern bus station, due to the shortage of seats they added extra buses and it was a complete chaos.

Member #3428
11-30-08, 01:53
Yesterday was stranded in BKK :( Very depressing...

1) Woke up had two shots with the TGF...

2) Afternoon went shopping at MBK and Paragon, ended up dropping more baht... but told the TGF I had a meeting but was really meeting up with a mate to head to Tulip but had some bags of items... so called the tgf to come meet me to taxi the items back home... such a bastard I am.

3) Went and had a two shot afternoon at tulip, just not enough time 2 hours for me as I like to eat for a long time as well....

4) Went back to MBK with my mate and meet up with the TGF there.

5) Went for a regular massage for which was so tired ended falling asleep and missing half the massage.... DAMN hate when that happens.

6) Went home had the TGF cook dinner in the room.

7) And ended up the evening with a three shot three some.

Now this is how to get stranded in BKK.... :D However... things are getting dicey at home, have to get out of here sometime...

Oh... forgot to mention my two shots this morning before writing this... :D

Gyaos
11-30-08, 02:38
Air Asia, flies out of Chang Mai to Kuala Lumpur (connection) to Macau or Hong Kong. Macau ferry to Hong Kong. That's the way out, if you can get to Chang Mai from Bangkok.

Gyaos.

Traveler1234
11-30-08, 03:11
From Bkk? It's 12 hours, 13 at most.
Maybe he meant total 20 hrs from Bkk to Hatyai to KL???

Papae Noel
11-30-08, 03:44
Yesterday, outside Bangkok's international airport, a Bangkok police checkpoint was overrun by a group of the PAD demonstrators. The police retreated, leaving behind their shields, and one policeman was even captured by PAD. Last night I watched the video of him behind forced into a vehicle. Of course, the military does not want to have the responibility of being a tool of the government, so they say they do not plan to take part in dispersion of the demonstators. My opinion is the army is more likely to take part in dispersion of the government. The army chief has made subtle suggestions that the PM resign.

It's 10 AM Sunday morning here in Bangkok, and I don't see this getting resolved for quite some time. The PM doesn't seem to want to resign. Don't know if that really would be the best outcome. Whatever, I can't wait any longer. I have just paid for a bus trip to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I get picked up at 4:30, and should arrive tomorrow night at 11PM. Hopefully Tuesday morning I can catch a flight to Singapore, then back to the U.S.

Yesterday I took a taxi out to U-tapao airport, and it was mayhem out there. Stayed for maybe 90 minutes and resolved nothing, got a return taxi.

This is from this mornings Bangpost.com website

"Almost 100,000 foreign tourists are still unable to return home, but the number of passengers stranded by the closure of Suvarnabhumi airport may double or triple if the situation is prolonged"

At this point would like to know if any one has any tips on the bus trip, or best way to get the flight from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore, or any other issue on immigration, money, food.

Hopefully next time, I would have planned this ahead of time instead of having it forced on me. I'd have preferred taking the storied Oriental Express train.

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Jayf1970
11-30-08, 15:25
I had my long awaited trip to bkk planned in a week and this closure / coup thing is a huge bummer. Any local / long time visitor members have opinions into whether phuket or CM will be any safer to fly to instead? I am thinking of changing my plans to Phillipines or somewhere else instead.

Member #3173
11-30-08, 16:10
I would think Phuket is safer.Its people are slightly different Thai Chinese who
used to speak a dialect called Hokkien.

Betong
11-30-08, 16:25
Maybe he meant total 20 hrs from Bkk to Hatyai to KL???Either that or he included the time for a long layover at the Chao Phraya IV massage emporium, something I'd recommend for anyone passing through Hatyai!

Mangofan
11-30-08, 16:40
Went over to Soi Cowboy last night to see if it was busy at all due to the local morons hijacking the airport. It was fairly quiet in some bars, but Baccara was still hopping with Japanese tourists and businessmen. Across the road there was a cutie out in front of "Our Place" who I chatted to for a few minutes. Barfine was 500 baht but she wanted 2,000 for ST and 4,000 for LT. "Good luck" I told her and walked off. Who knows, maybe some idiot will pay it.

Walked into Suzie Wong's. I had been here a few hours before and it was completely dead, and at 2 am it was no different, however, there were still plenty of girls about. I thought that with the airport closure and the lack of customers, I might get a discount. I was right. A cutie named "Gai" agreed to go with me ST for 1000 baht if I paid the barfine. I normally never pay the barfine (usually have the girl meet me the next day before work), but she was cute and it was a reasonable price. Paid the barfine and off we went. Got to my apartment and it was obvious she was a little drunk and horny as hell. I'm not going to go into much descriptive detail here, but let's just say that my ass was clean as a whistle when she was through. She also didn't want to use a condom, but after a scare I had a few months back I always insist now. She slept for a few hours and then said she had to leave, but not before giving me a BBBJ. Unfortunately she only gave me one for about 2 minutes and then left, leaving me with a hard-on, so I had to finish myself off! Oh well -- nice girl, but she wouldn't let me take pictures.

Blair
11-30-08, 16:50
Once you are in KL it is an easy bus ride to Singapore, Jalan Pudu bus station, close to Chinatown. Good food, a few reasonable hotels and pussy of all qualities in the vicinity - ask our brothers on the KL forum.

For me, bus to Singapore from KL is easier and cheaper than the flight. About 300km on good highway and buses are comfortable even if you are tall. When you factor in the trip out to the airport and check in times it isn't that much slower than the flight. Will take about 5 hours total. Bus tickets can be bought in advance. Turning up on spec. is usually OK but I guess in the present situation demand is high.

Hardcore mongers might also prefer to ride to JB (just over the causeway from Singapore) and take local transport to Singapore after a little exploring.

There are also buses from Hat Yai all the way to SIN and JB. Never having ridden the whole stretch I'll leave it for others to advise.

For anyone arriving Singapore without lodgings, Geylang (the mongers paradise) is a good bet for cheaper rooms. Even when the downtown hotels are full or crazy prices, you should be ok without pre booking. Cheap food and plenty of entertainment ;)

Hotel 81, Fragrance all have many outlets in the vicinity and there are quite a number of independent hotels. Should be able to get a decent room for around S$70 and a basic bunk for quite a bit less. Geylang thread for much more info.

Every cloud has a silver lining. Reports in five different sections here. BKK-Hat Yai-KL-JB-Geylang, sort of trip a monger would make for fun!









...

It's 10 AM Sunday morning here in Bangkok, and I don't see this getting resolved for quite some time. The PM doesn't seem to want to resign. Don't know if that really would be the best outcome. Whatever, I can't wait any longer. I have just paid for a bus trip to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I get picked up at 4:30, and should arrive tomorrow night at 11PM. Hopefully Tuesday morning I can catch a flight to Singapore, then back to the U.S.

.....

At this point would like to know if any one has any tips on the bus trip, or best way to get the flight from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore, or any other issue on immigration, money, food.



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BBBJ
11-30-08, 16:58
Being the cheap bastard that I am, I was just wondering if the airport crisis is having any affect on ST / LT rates in places like Soi Cowboy?

At Soi Cowboy after some negotiations I usually can get 1500 for ST and 2000 for LT. Bar Fine is 600, although the other night a place in Soi Cowboy was asking for 700 BF (which I declined).

Also, are the girls providing better service?

Any info would be helpful, thanks.

Terry Terrier
11-30-08, 23:44
Maybe he meant total 20 hrs from Bkk to Hatyai to KL???
Great staff management. You look well-equipped to ride out the economic crisis :D. ps: Hope the golf handicap doesn't go up.

FreebieFan
12-01-08, 01:16
Maybe a day late but to the poster (or others) wanting to know about flights KL to Singapore. There are currently about 20 a day on either SQ or MH and about 3 a day now on Air Asia.

If you get a ticket they are basically interchangeable so if miss one flight or want to change form one carrier to another very simple.

Flight is 50 mins.

Good luck to those stuck in BKK. Tho I can't think of a worse place to be stuck

" Honey. The airport is closed and I can't get out of this city. I might be stuck be here at least another week. " grins grins grins.

Dinghy
12-01-08, 01:29
BBBJ - Thai economic law of supply and demand - oversupply of product - lower sales - make up for it by raising prices

LESS farang taking poo-ying, raise barfines and tell the poo-ying to raise their expected level of compensation as well.

Thai law of supply and demand :)

Nvslim
12-01-08, 10:11
by the way anybody wonder how these little girls can take such large dicks and in such large quantities w/o even a peep of true complaining. my ex always bitched when i slammed her hard and she was a much larger lady. i often have us girls put their hand on my tummy so as to stop me from penetrating too deeply, but the thai girls do not put these kind of restrictions!!!!! they also do not freak out as much on getting their ass banged!
cheers
hb



moved from pattaya reports

i have always wondered this myself. i have seen 5'0"/90 lb asian girls take 9-10" and never flinch while others scream out when 6" hits bottom. may be it's the angle of penetration.

slim

M P Lurker
12-01-08, 10:27
Moved from Pattaya Reports

I have always wondered this myself. I have seen 5'0"/90 lb Asian girls take 9-10" and never flinch while others scream out when 6" hits bottom. May be it's the angle of penetration.

Slim
The cervix/uterus of many Thai girls can be only 4-5 inches from the opening. Easy to find it when sticking a finger in and I don't have 9-10 inch fingers.

Now it depends which way up she is, how much her uterus sticks/hangs out into the vagina, how hard you crash it or whether you just slide past, and whether she is used to it.
The girl may be skilled enough to position herself or move in such a way as to minimise the crashing into uterus mouth.

Some girls get bruised and bleed quite easily, yes Thai girls.

Now even if Slim has a 9-10 inch (LOL perhaps its only the dildo that is 9-10 inch), his knob will be well past the cervix (which is not at the very end).

So massive dicks is not very relevant. But a very short one might not go near it.

Anyway I feel sorry for guys with a ten inch as they will never be able to get it all in there.
I would like to fuck with most of my dick, not just 60% of it.

BTW When girls stuff themselves with a sponge to hide that its their period, your finger will find that too and you will quickly realise that not much dick is going to get in there today.
In this event I insist the sponge be taken out or else I need to cancel. A 3-4 inch long pussy is useless to me.

Zapme
12-01-08, 10:56
So was in BKK and got out 2 days before the airport blockade. Phew. So on my last nite went to CM2 since there are a few hotties there and I was also on the lookout for European ladies. Have had a great turkish girl there once before. This time got there at 10. They were still to open, so got a foot massage at a place across. Lots of cute young thai girls there.

Hit CM2 back at 11 pm. It had started to fill up. By 12 it was packed with a million hotties. A bunch of hot turkish women occupied one table next to the pool table. Finally went and chatted with one hottie. She was Armenian and was gyrating rather sexily to the music and I was hooked. 2500 ST and off we went.

Got to the hotel had a drink and she put on some turkish music on her phone and let loose. Incredible BJ followed by me working on her 'G-spot' with my fingers and she went nuts (got a video so will try to do a video capture at some point). Then it was me on top and doggie. Along with a finger up the ass. Spectacular she kept screaming 'jaanam' which meant darling almost like a bollywood actress. Phew. She was to leave for Armenia on the 27th for good (to get married) so I guess she is still stuck there. Go find her at CM2 while you can.

Sammon
12-01-08, 11:35
The vagina naturally gets elongated with sexual stimulus. This is why pre-coital foreplay is very much required with some asian girls.
On the other hand asian girls do not complain much because of the nature of their upbringing to please a man. Many of them will say there is pain in thai.
Thai word for pain is "chep".
I had a Thai gf who was a virgin and for a long time I knew I was hurting her but she never complained much and always was ready whenever I wanted.
I guess if you are well endowed be gentle with asian girls.
I know many asian girls will avoid farangs and will go with only asian men.

M P Lurker
12-01-08, 12:43
Thai word for pain is "chep".

Actually for English speakers its "Jep" (first letter Jor Jaan)

เจ็บ (jep) means "hurts" (verb) or "to experience pain"

"bpuat" means to "to expereince an ache or discomfort" sort of pain, but still can be strong pain.

Will Riker
12-01-08, 18:07
Hello all,

I am new to this forum and have been thinking about traveling to Thailand for quite some time now. I found this escort service called Bangkok Girls where they offer a special service of sex w/o a condom after all parties meet at a medical center to be checked out. I know STD can lay dormant about a month before being able to be picked up by a test, but I was wondering if anyone knew about this practice? Is it safe cause we're going to a medical center to be tested? Are other escort agencies offering this cause this was the only one I found that offered this special service?

Any information anyone can offer would be great. Thanks,

Will

Ozirob
12-02-08, 00:07
I reckon its in the bar girls lesson 1.01 - cry, whimper, say it hurts and it'll generally be over quicker.

My friend in Bkk tells me that a certain percentage of blokes get off on the perceived "pain" whether they want to or not! Its all in the timing




Ozirob

Noclew
12-02-08, 01:33
So was in BKK and got out 2 days before the airport blockade. A bunch of hot turkish women occupied one table next to the pool table. Finally went and chatted with one hottie. She was Armenian and was gyrating rather sexily to the music and I was hooked. 2500 ST and off we went.

(got a video so will try to do a video capture at some point). .What was the name of the girl? Can you post the picture.

Thanks

Goyave
12-02-08, 02:48
Hello all,

I am new to this forum and have been thinking about traveling to Thailand for quite some time now...Already posted some time ago in the "Safe sex" thread.

817320

In my humble opinion, it is certainly not a "safe sex" practice as you can't be certain what STD (not limited to HIV/AIDS) may have their previous customers. It's just a little bit safer than to go bareback with a hooker whom you don't know her recent STD/HIV health status, but still way riskier than "covered" sex.

Professor 1
12-02-08, 04:03
Hello all,

I am new to this forum and have been thinking about traveling to Thailand for quite some time now. I found this escort service called Bangkok Girls where they offer a special service of sex w/o a condom after all parties meet at a medical center to be checked out.

ALL STOP. Sex without a condom is never safe in this environment. She could pass an AIDS test today, and appear positive next week. Please do not do it.

Duniawala
12-02-08, 05:45
Hello all,

I am new to this forum and have been thinking about traveling to Thailand for quite some time now. I found this escort service called Bangkok Girls where they offer a special service of sex w/o a condom after all parties meet at a medical center to be checked out. I know STD can lay dormant about a month before being able to be picked up by a test, but I was wondering if anyone knew about this practice? Is it safe cause we're going to a medical center to be tested? Are other escort agencies offering this cause this was the only one I found that offered this special service?

Any information anyone can offer would be great. Thanks,

Will

Just wondering. How old are you? and where have you been living for the last decade? and oh, one more thing, in what school grade are you in?

Just get in touch with Opebo. You will have a great mentor to guide you.

Don't mean to flame, but in my books people asking such questions shouldn't be allowed to monger.

Nvslim
12-02-08, 09:36
Now it depends which way up she is, how much her uterus sticks/hangs out into the vagina, how hard you crash it or whether you just slide past, and whether she is used to it.
The girl may be skilled enough to position herself or move in such a way as to minimise the crashing into uterus mouth.



Not that massive but I have bottomed out a couple of time.

Had one older Pinay BG who had had a couple of kids but was very GFE. Strangest thing happened when I was deep stroking. The head of my cock entered her uterine opening. It felt great, like she had a pussy inside her pussy. Only time it's ever happened.

Slim

Mr_Hoffy
12-02-08, 09:55
I found this escort service called Bangkok Girls where they offer a special service of sex w/o a condom after all parties meet at a medical center to be checked out.

Will

Any time you have sex without a condom you are taking a much greater risk than without a condom. The issue is what's your risk tolerance?

In my view the Bangkok Girls special service is just a big scam. The cost of 40,000 Bhat is a complete scam. If you really wanted to have sex without a condom don't do it with a random stranger. Find a girl you click with and have great sex with a condom. Then if you really want do take the condom off, go to a local hospital and both get a STD/HIV test. I think the cost would be like 400 Bhat not 40,000 Bhat. Of course there is an period of time where both of you could be infected but not yet show on the test. That's a risk you are both going to have take.

When I go to Thailand I have to make a concerted effort keep the condom on. A lot of these girls will want you come faster and sometimes ask if you want to like to take the condom off. They just don't care. They've probably done it 200 times and nothing bad has happened so they are used it. The issue is about you. If you want to keep yourself in the game you don't want to get to a point of "GAME OVER" because you took that stupid risk to just blow you cum up some hookers pussy. I think BBBJ CIM is far better risk reward than BBFS. If you can get BBBJ CIM why even think about BBFS.

I found that the Trojan Polyurethane condoms are the best for sensation. In fact I've had sudden rush of fear when either I think the condom has broken or fallen off only to find it still doing it's job. Polyurethane transfers heat a lot better than Latex so your dick doesn't overheat. The issue with Polyurethane is they don't stretch that well and you have to be more careful about pulling out after cumming if your dick starts to loose it's blood flow. Also I don't know how extensive the testing is compared to Latex. I don't think Trojan would be selling them at Walmart if there were any issue in not blocking the HIV virus. I've heard that Polyurethane condoms may be more susceptible to breakage but that is another risk.

Fox Two
12-02-08, 10:14
...If you want to keep yourself in the game you don't want to get to a point of "GAME OVER" because you took that stupid risk to just blow you cum up some hookers pussy...

Best advice for anyone playing here. Read Giotto's story too if you haven't already...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=815821&postcount=228

Cheers,

F2

Asian Flava
12-02-08, 10:41
What will you do if the airport continues to be closed? Got a Plan B?Have seen quite a few reports about ways to get around Thailand and out of the country without flying. Reminded me of quite a few years ago when I had some fun in BKK and then flew down to Krabi for some beach relaxtion. Railay Beach, Phi Phi and Phuket for more fun! Tried to get a flight to KL but couldn't so took a minibus back to Krabi and spent a few nights before minibus again to Hat Yai. Then motorcycle taxi to a big coach bus for the ride to KL. Spent a few days there but couldn't partake in any activities since I was with some friends. Then the coach bus again to Sing. All in all it was a long day of bus rides from Krabi to KL but it was worth it in the end.

I'm supposed to be in BKK for some work and fun in about a month's time. Hoping things get resolved soon since I am so looking forward to my "free time" in BKK.

AF

Goyave
12-02-08, 13:58
... go to a local hospital and both get a STD/HIV test. I think the cost would be like 400 Bhat not 40,000 Bhat. The cost of one HIV rapid test is even cheaper: 300 baht at your nearest public hospital (that's what I paid less than 2 months ago). Results were given within the hour.

ThaiLearner
12-02-08, 14:08
Condom or not this has been discussed many times before.

Lets get back to Bangkok.

I wonder when flights will revert back?

Kuratla
12-02-08, 14:53
I wonder when flights will revert back?December 15th by the latest news. The government is disbanded but the airports won't open for two weeks due to the damage caused by PAD.

This estimate may change though.

Bold Focker
12-02-08, 21:34
After going to Pattaya, my views on BKK have always been "it is too bloody expensive" and avoided the place as far as possible.

But on the 26th Nov I had to go there to meet a friend for a flight on 27th to Philippines. This is where it all went wrong, my friend was stuck in Dubai and CP flight was cancelled due to the PAD demonstrations at BKK Airport. But this gave me another chance to explore Bangkok.

My first stop was Soi 33 and into Livingstones. I had stayed here before in 2006 where I took advantage of his current offer of 5 nights for price of 4. I explained that my trip would be split 4 nights on way in, one night on way home, he agreed. On my return stay he still charged me for room. So that pissed me off anyway!

But I thought I would give it a go for a drink, and see what the totty was like. On my last visit I could never understand how a place could get away or even survive charging 1500bth bar fine, so I asked one of the girls how much the bar fine was now. Yep still 1500bth!

It beats me who would pay such a price when 200 mtr down the road you can get a girl away for 500bth. It would be more understandable if the girls were above average, but for me they were all a bit pom poi. Anyway all to there own, I suppose some people like being overcharged, it makes them look special!

We had a beer and put my name down for game of pool! One of the girls brought a que over and asked for 30 bth. My reply

"how much! "

"30 bth Sir. "

"No I don’t feel like playing anymore"

The next name on list also declined, as he herd me question it! We nodded at each other in discussed!

Then my immediate thought was "how much is the beer here" quick look at bin reveals 95b + tax = 106b. . Get me out of here!

We continued down soi 33, asked at a few other bars about drink prices, mostly 100 ish but one placed we asked at was 130b. This is UK prices!

That was it, taxi and back to beer garden for drink and girl. 75b for drink. Girl wanted 1500 ST. Declined there offer, and decided to restore my sperm count and go to Pattaya in the morning, where a beer 35b and girl 1000LT are Thai prices.

Only good point I can see in BKK is that they enforce the Smoking Ban in all bars as far as I could see!

I may be missing the plot, short sighted views, lost in translation or cheap Charlie. But why would anyone want to go to Bangkok, specially to soi 33.

There has to be a perfectly good reason, so send your answers, on a post card to "Bold Focker"

Artful
12-03-08, 00:25
Hi

I arrive in Bangkok for the first time on Christmas Eve in the late afternoon. I'm sure Bangkok on Christmas Eve will be chaos (in a fun way), but what happens on Christmas Day? Are most things closed or is it business as usual?

Goyave
12-03-08, 01:13
Hi

I arrive in Bangkok for the first time on Christmas Eve in the late afternoon. I'm sure Bangkok on Christmas Eve will be chaos (in a fun way), but what happens on Christmas Day? Are most things closed or is it business as usual?Thailand is (mostly) a Buddhist country. It is business as usual during Christmas time.

Retired Army
12-03-08, 01:19
Hi

I arrive in Bangkok for the first time on Christmas Eve in the late afternoon. I'm sure Bangkok on Christmas Eve will be chaos (in a fun way), but what happens on Christmas Day? Are most things closed or is it business as usual?


Not a big deal, just another reason for the Thai's to celebrate. Most people are working as usual. Only in Farang expat areas will you find Christmas.

Kuratla
12-03-08, 03:02
Only in Farang expat areas will you find Christmas.Well, there has been a big commercial push for Christmas in recent years. You'll find Christmas trees, decorations, Christmas music, etc all over the place... all in the name of shopping. It's funny to see people queuing up to get their Christmas presents wrapped especially since most Thais haven't the foggiest about the meaning of Christmas.

But, in general, Christmas means nothing here and the only places that will be closed are schools. Definitely busy as usual in the P4P sector.

M P Lurker
12-03-08, 03:28
Hi

I arrive in Bangkok for the first time on Christmas Eve in the late afternoon. I'm sure Bangkok on Christmas Eve will be chaos (in a fun way), but what happens on Christmas Day? Are most things closed or is it business as usual?
As others have said, the big surprise is that absolutely nothing appears to happen on Christmas day.
The days followoing Xmas get quieter as people go away for the New year up country.
The northern bus station Morchit will be very busy. Ekamai bus station the same.
I arrive on Dec 26 and am looking forward to a quiet BKK.

Thais give presents on New Year's Eve instead of Xmas day, and Sor Khor Sor (Song Khwaam Suk - send greeting cards wishing happiness for the coming year).

NicFrenchy
12-03-08, 04:01
I may be missing the plot, short sighted views, lost in translation or cheap Charlie. But why would anyone want to go to Bangkok, specially to soi 33.

There has to be a perfectly good reason, so send your answers, on a post card to "Bold Focker"

Well, some of us work in Bangkok so I guess that answers your first question. As for Soi 33 (aka Soi dead artists and now looking on to beat Soi 24/1 in number of Massage joints) the prices have always been high. They are higher because the bars do not want to attract the Cheapos.

The fact is, many places prefer to have 20 relaxed and wealthy customers rather than 60 cheapos that will moan and groan about everything.
At the end of the day, the 20 wealthy guys will spend as much money in drinks as the 60 cheapos.

If it was my business, I would also go for less but quality customers because they will be loyal to me. The cheapos are in bigger numbers but they are only loyal to price and not atmosphere: as soon as the neighbor will sell cheaper, they will all be gone.

There are plenty of places in BKK for everyone, wealthy or poor, you just need to know where to go in order to make the most out of your budget.

Coming to Barfine, this is a very difficult subject because it has little to do with the girls. It is how the bar evaluates its potential loss of drinks income by having a girl leaving the bar. Livingstones, for example, do not have 35 girls like the other go go bars so if 3 of them leave, it will have a big impact on drink sales.

If barfine is an issue, there are plenty of Freelancer bars in Bangkok (BG7, Thermae, Gullivers)

All in all, Bangkok is a very good mongering place, certainly more diverse than Pattaya in my opinion.

Different strokes for different folks I guess

Hummer Bird
12-03-08, 04:26
The cost of one HIV rapid test is even cheaper: 300 baht at your nearest public hospital (that's what I paid less than 2 months ago). Results were given within the hour.
From what I am aware, a hospital is required to pass on your results to immigration, unlike a more expensive private testing facility. What does this mean? Well if your positive, say goodbye in more ways than one, i.e. no more visits to LOS. If any of you know different please tell your story.
Cheers?
HB

Akka76
12-03-08, 04:48
So being stuck here for a few days I thought I would nip out for a knee trembler under the auspices of a business meeting - her indoors safely tucked up with her friends.

So I go to Annies for a soapy but I must say, at 2pm, the choices were very disappointing. About 20 girls and none of which would rate above a 5 out of 10 in my scale. Not great, and at that time of day they all looked grumpy and not in the least interested in anything. So I paid my 100 baht for the 3 sips of chang and headed out for Eden instead.

Not been there before, and was kind of excited to visit the place. Good set up as you all know, and mama explained the routine. PIcked one youngish girl (23) who has that stroppy slutty look that appeals to me, and she grabbed her ok looking friend. Up in the lift and straight into a 15 minute shower routine. Once done and dusted, they went straight for my ring piece which although I thought I would like, I did not. So, out with the strap on and what followed was very half hearted. It was just not the erotic free for all that I was expecting I guess, and each act was very staged rather then fluid. After prolonged OWO, I got them kneeling in front of me and showered their faces with jizz. Left without even shagging them which surprises me but I did not think it was worth the effort.

Mana took my cash and saw me out but never asked about the service or why I was leaving after only an hour. Needless to say, I wont be returning but you have to give it a try and would still recommend it as an experience.

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NicFrenchy
12-03-08, 05:07
If any of you know different please tell your story.
Cheers?
HB

But... Tell your story in the Right Thread ;)

Goyave
12-03-08, 06:01
From what I am aware, a hospital is required to pass on your results to immigration, unlike a more expensive private testing facility. What does this mean? Well if your positive, say goodbye in more ways than one, i.e. no more visits to LOS. If any of you know different please tell your story.
Cheers?

HBUrban legend! Nobody at the public hospital where I've had my HIV rapid test even required my passport or any form of ID. I was given a number to retrieve my results, that's all. You can go there and introduce yourself as John Doe from Nakhon Nowhere or Ban Kee Nok if you wish and (almost certainly) no one will check whether it's true or not: it's an hospital not a police station!

BuleDaddy
12-03-08, 06:15
The looks of the SW's has gone way down hill (Nana lot and around SUK). They are not-so-pretty and constantly working you now. Lousy methodical BJ's, sudden squirms while doing the doggie to make you pop out, requests to drink and eat minibar stuff, req's for cabfare, or for grub from the SUK street vendors where if you don't ask up front you might get a bill like room service at the Landmark. This is because of all the goobers looking for that GFE that indulge this kind of behavior. These little weaslettes need to be kept constantly in check. I tossed one out when she called me "Dahling" before she had a chance to get in the shower. I tell them that using that word will get them fired on the sah-pot. I sense trouble when the eager beaver in the lot trys to delay things in the room. That was fun. I had to physically push several out if they did not get moving after 5 minutes, but still had money to go get a new recruit. In the lot the recent ejectee might call me Bah or ting-tong but I'd counter on how their Jeem, sah-mell like old som-tam-lao with my nose pinched. These people need to lose a lot of that "face" they talk about. It was a dice roll to get a good one but one has to get an immediate handle on the situation so no money is wasted. Another I ditched at the thing where you launch your little boat w/incense and candle on the river. She gave great knob and was my first in Asia to play with clit while getting dawged from behind but I could see she was going to be a Klingon. I just ducked and enjoyed watching her frantically search for me, the new arrival she was trying to latch onto. I found it better to get a # from a girl working a commercial venue to come to the hotel the next day and keep it business like. They were far more willing and able to please when they are in touch with their station in live. All this GFE nonsense is where these hoze get their attitude. I saw so many dudes far better looking, younger and "cut" than me with narly assed women. They'd look at me puzzled when I'd ask them "what's a lonely guy like me gottah do tah get a date in this town". I think maybe they have a sense of duty. In the small subdivisions in Thailand and the PI where my friends with their ugly wives live all have neighbors with the same affliction.

BuleDaddy
12-03-08, 06:27
When I made the mistake of going a couple of weeks before xmas, about 8 years back when all the young british and eurostuds where there all that was left for me was the more crafty, older dragons (late 20's). The watermassage places still rocked. THEN, suddenly right about Xmas eve, the place cleared out until the 1st and the only other punters there were Arabs, Israelis (you can tell them apart by the facial hair) and subcontinentals. The odds get really good again between the 24th and the 1st because the younger lads must have gone home to their families. That was my take. The old dragon took me for a stroll down soi 8 to see my wandering eye and tried to get me to check into a small, family Chinese hotel away from the water. I couldn't get rid of her. She stalked me all the way to Bangkok. The hotels were still full of budget backpacker family tourists. This was before the Russians overran Pattaya.


Hi

I arrive in Bangkok for the first time on Christmas Eve in the late afternoon. I'm sure Bangkok on Christmas Eve will be chaos (in a fun way), but what happens on Christmas Day? Are most things closed or is it business as usual?

Duniawala
12-03-08, 06:43
The looks of the SW's has gone way down hill (Nana lot and around SUK). They are not-so-pretty and constantly working you now. Lousy methodical BJ's, sudden squirms while doing the doggie to make you pop out, requests to drink and eat minibar stuff, req's for cabfare, or for grub from the SUK street vendors where if you don't ask up front you might get a bill like room service at the Landmark. This is because of all the goobers looking for that GFE that indulge this kind of behavior. These little weaslettes need to be kept constantly in check. I tossed one out when she called me "Dahling" before she had a chance to get in the shower. I tell them that using that word will get them fired on the sah-pot. I sense trouble when the eager beaver in the lot trys to delay things in the room. That was fun. I had to physically push several out if they did not get moving after 5 minutes, but still had money to go get a new recruit. In the lot the recent ejectee might call me Bah or ting-tong but I'd counter on how their Jeem, sah-mell like old som-tam-lao with my nose pinched. These people need to lose a lot of that "face" they talk about. It was a dice roll to get a good one but one has to get an immediate handle on the situation so no money is wasted. Another I ditched at the thing where you launch your little boat w/incense and candle on the river. She gave great knob and was my first in Asia to play with clit while getting dawged from behind but I could see she was going to be a Klingon. I just ducked and enjoyed watching her frantically search for me, the new arrival she was trying to latch onto. I found it better to get a # from a girl working a commercial venue to come to the hotel the next day and keep it business like. They were far more willing and able to please when they are in touch with their station in live. All this GFE nonsense is where these hoze get their attitude. I saw so many dudes far better looking, younger and "cut" than me with narly assed women. They'd look at me puzzled when I'd ask them "what's a lonely guy like me gottah do tah get a date in this town". I think maybe they have a sense of duty. In the small subdivisions in Thailand and the PI where my friends with their ugly wives live all have neighbors with the same affliction.
Could anybody translate this. please.

BuleDaddy
12-03-08, 07:03
Could anybody translate this. please.

Plus I didn't use the proper queen's angrit. Oh bloody hell, I must be an unpolished bloke from New York. A London School of Economics grad would refer to me as being "rather tarty"...

Here's Duniawal's suggestions for a punter from a previous post:

For a first time visitor, please do dress well, use colognes and perfumes,
and act as a gentlemen. If you do become a frequent visitor, you will find that the good attitude will pay off in big returns.

I shower and shave quite a bit but I might wear the same clothes for days and I NEVER wear cologne. "Please DO dress well". (give me a break!) A proper washing of your bottom after you evacuate your bowels would no doubt be in order as well.

Be polite and courteous even if you don't like the TG who is pushing herself
in your face. If you like a certain girl, treat her well. A few extra bahts as tips will get you more mileage. I am not saying to overpay, but pay the going rate and tip only if you are happy.

Now all you punters DO Carry On and be a gentleman or I shall throw my steel hanky at you!!

Fox Two
12-03-08, 07:07
Could anybody translate this. please.

He's blaming the lack of quality he sees at Nana on guys that are not as controlling and tight with their money as he is.

With exceptions, usually your choices are - Hot Girl, GFE, Low Cost: Pick any two.

Cheers!

F2

Bearsk
12-03-08, 07:17
Hot Girl, GFE, Low Cost: Pick any two

This is THE fundamental mongering equation.


Hot Girl, GFE, Low Cost: Pick any two.

Redfield10
12-03-08, 07:18
I loved it! Good stuff.


The looks of the SW's has gone way down hill (Nana lot and around SUK). They are not-so-pretty and constantly working you now. Lousy methodical BJ's, sudden squirms while doing the doggie to make you pop out, requests to drink and eat minibar stuff, req's for cabfare, or for grub from the SUK street vendors where if you don't ask up front you might get a bill like room service at the Landmark. This is because of all the goobers looking for that GFE that indulge this kind of behavior. These little weaslettes need to be kept constantly in check. I tossed one out when she called me "Dahling" before she had a chance to get in the shower. I tell them that using that word will get them fired on the sah-pot. I sense trouble when the eager beaver in the lot trys to delay things in the room. That was fun. I had to physically push several out if they did not get moving after 5 minutes, but still had money to go get a new recruit. In the lot the recent ejectee might call me Bah or ting-tong but I'd counter on how their Jeem, sah-mell like old som-tam-lao with my nose pinched. These people need to lose a lot of that "face" they talk about. It was a dice roll to get a good one but one has to get an immediate handle on the situation so no money is wasted. Another I ditched at the thing where you launch your little boat w/incense and candle on the river. She gave great knob and was my first in Asia to play with clit while getting dawged from behind but I could see she was going to be a Klingon. I just ducked and enjoyed watching her frantically search for me, the new arrival she was trying to latch onto. I found it better to get a # from a girl working a commercial venue to come to the hotel the next day and keep it business like. They were far more willing and able to please when they are in touch with their station in live. All this GFE nonsense is where these hoze get their attitude. I saw so many dudes far better looking, younger and "cut" than me with narly assed women. They'd look at me puzzled when I'd ask them "what's a lonely guy like me gottah do tah get a date in this town". I think maybe they have a sense of duty. In the small subdivisions in Thailand and the PI where my friends with their ugly wives live all have neighbors with the same affliction.

M P Lurker
12-03-08, 08:48
Hot Girl, GFE, Low Cost: Pick any two
This is THE fundamental mongering equation.
I prefer to take the first two, but can get all 3 at Tulip (well moderate cost=value for money).

Another Fundamental:

You cannot loan money to Thai girls.
You can make it clear its a gift not to be repaid.

But essentially the more you loan or give, the longer the time until you will see her again.

If a very large amount, you will never see her again.

Giving small amounts leads to continous requests for more. This can be O.K. if you insist on receiving service first.

On a tangent ...

Supporting a non-P4P GF will always turn out more expensive than P4P if calculated on a per fuck basis.

Its rare that you can save money with a GF and still get a lot of sex. A GF is O.K. if you only need sex 3-4 times a week. A wife would normally provide you a lot less than that! LOL ;)

Even entertaining a girl on a date can be expensive.

Those guys who can get Giks to have sex at no expense at all, are really doing well. Unfortuantely I don't have that much charm as to get a lot of freebies. :(

So P4P has to fill in the gaps and its economical in Thailand. :)

NicFrenchy
12-03-08, 10:34
Those guys who can get Giks to have sex at no expense at all, are really doing well. Unfortuantely I don't have that much charm as to get a lot of freebies. :(

I see you are talking about me :D

Well, charm has little to do with having a sex gik, all you need is to live here. Most of these girls are married or have a steady Boyfriend already, you are here for her when she wants a change of pace, a fuck or something else.

I usually never call my Giks, just an Sms to wish them a good day. They like the fact that they can call me whenever they want to see me. I am down to 2 only now so I guess I will visit some P4P venue often (and report of course).

Mick, there is no such thing as No expense at all. I always offer gifts (one way or another) to my Giks. They never ask for anything but I see they expect a little something now and then.

Retired Army
12-03-08, 12:41
Its rare that you can save money with a GF and still get a lot of sex. A GF is O.K. if you only need sex 3-4 times a week. A wife you would normally provide a lot less than that! LOL ;)




Ain't this the truth. My wife and I had a discussion. If we go a certain amount of time without sex then I'm heading out for a night on the town. She isn't a fool and seems to know exactly how I can be deprived before doing her wifely duty.

Fslag338
12-03-08, 16:02
i live in BKK. i reognise nothing of what you say. i treat ladies well, i pay thm well. they take good care of me, they give me great service.
ever wondered if it maybe had something to do with your own attitude?

M P Lurker
12-03-08, 16:29
I shower and shave quite a bit but I might wear the same clothes for days and I NEVER wear cologne.
A fresh shirt and strong underarm deodorant are a must.
Thai girls don't really go for manly stench, because Thais have no BO.

DG69
12-03-08, 20:39
There has to be a perfectly good reason, so send your answers, on a post card to "Bold Focker"

Well Bold, I like both places, Pattaya and Bangkok. Bangkok is not more expensive imho. Bangkok is just different. I don't know where in Pattaya you get a Beer for 35 Bath, but in the Gogos, there is not much difference between BKK and Pat.
Bangkok has a better Freelancer scene. In Pattaya you might find FL at beach road, but you must be lucky to find a pretty one. In Discos are FL, but in BKK the selection is better, imho. In Pattaya the most pretty FL have Foreign Sugar Daddies or Sponsors, so they can choose their customer for the night and usually the like the very young guys. I am 39 and in quite good shape. In BKK Discos I have no problems to get the most beautiful girl in the club, in Pattaya they often stick together with teen or tween guys.

Hotels are not really more expensive in BKK than in Pat. Ok, if you go to Soi 33 there might be other prices, but in Pattaya I were this time in the Nova Platinum Hotel. Nice rooms with big bed, nice and modern, with pool and wifi. It was 1900 Baht per day, in BKK I were in The Davin Soi 4. Same equipment same price.

Khun Larry
12-04-08, 00:42
For certain the hotels in Pattaya are cheaper than Bangkok. Pattaya 500 - 1000 baht are the most common, Bangkok 1000 - 2000 are most common, so 2X.

100% of the girls in Pattaya are w-hores, Bangkok maybe 80% the other 20% are part timers, more freelancers in Bangkok. Maybe 1 - 2% are not in the game and you can meet them ...... no idea where to meet a Thai that is not a HO, never met one.

Many places in Pattaya for a 35 baht bottle of Tiger or even Heinekin. Bangkok, not really. Gogos are much cheaper in Pattaya, again no question. Many gogos to drink all night for 50 - 55 baht drafts, Bangkok none except happy hour. Soi Cowboy happy hour 60 - 70 baht bottles, 55 drafts several places.

Overall, Pattaya is about half the price of Bangkok. Girls in Bangkok much much better. Many times go a whole night in Pattaya without seeing a good looking HO.

Johnthescot
12-04-08, 00:52
The looks of the SW's has gone way down hill (Nana lot and around SUK). They are not-so-pretty and constantly working you now. Lousy methodical BJ's, sudden squirms while doing the doggie to make you pop out, requests to drink and eat minibar stuff, req's for cabfare, or for grub from the SUK street vendors where if you don't ask up front you might get a bill like room service at the Landmark. This is because of all the goobers looking for that GFE that indulge this kind of behavior. These little weaslettes need to be kept constantly in check. I tossed one out when she called me "Dahling" before she had a chance to get in the shower. I tell them that using that word will get them fired on the sah-pot. I sense trouble when the eager beaver in the lot trys to delay things in the room. That was fun. I had to physically push several out if they did not get moving after 5 minutes, but still had money to go get a new recruit. In the lot the recent ejectee might call me Bah or ting-tong but I'd counter on how their Jeem, sah-mell like old som-tam-lao with my nose pinched. These people need to lose a lot of that "face" they talk about. It was a dice roll to get a good one but one has to get an immediate handle on the situation so no money is wasted. Another I ditched at the thing where you launch your little boat w/incense and candle on the river. She gave great knob and was my first in Asia to play with clit while getting dawged from behind but I could see she was going to be a Klingon. I just ducked and enjoyed watching her frantically search for me, the new arrival she was trying to latch onto. I found it better to get a # from a girl working a commercial venue to come to the hotel the next day and keep it business like. They were far more willing and able to please when they are in touch with their station in live. All this GFE nonsense is where these hoze get their attitude. I saw so many dudes far better looking, younger and "cut" than me with narly assed women. They'd look at me puzzled when I'd ask them "what's a lonely guy like me gottah do tah get a date in this town". I think maybe they have a sense of duty. In the small subdivisions in Thailand and the PI where my friends with their ugly wives live all have neighbors with the same affliction.

BuleDaddy,

not checked out the site for weeks (usualy a couple of weeks before a visit and never while there or when I get back - too depressing, back 3 weeks now so think I can face it again!!) but your posts have made me smile a lot today!! What an attitude!! :-)

Johnthescot

Johnthescot
12-04-08, 00:56
Sure it's been mentioned before but what's happened to one of the most entertaining posters (by entertaining I mean controversial, argumentative but always informative), OTH?? Hope he's well and writing his memoirs!!

Johnthescot

Goyave
12-04-08, 03:23
...... no idea where to meet a Thai that is not a HO, never met one.Learning to speak some Thai might help. I know many Thai women that are really cute, smart, educated, charming, and not *****s... but they are usually "traps" as they often expect to become your regular girlfriend or wife if you are single (mia noi or "second wife" if you are not). I've even been once chased after by a really beautiful 25-year old virgin (yes, she told me that she still is!) Thai woman working in a mobile phone shop, but I've declined as I've understood very quickly that she wants to get married prior according to anyone her sexual favors.


Overall, Pattaya is about half the price of Bangkok. Girls in Bangkok much much better. Many times go a whole night in Pattaya without seeing a good looking HO.I would have said that Bangkok is about 30 to 60% more expensive than Pattaya (food, hotel, drinks, etc.) in average. The main difference (in my own experience) are the ST and LT rates with girls: it's still not too difficult to find cute freelancers in Pattaya for 500 to 800 baht ST and 1000 to 1200 baht LT. In Bangkok, it's more 700 to 1000 baht ST and 1500 to 2000 LT for approximately the same "quality" of freelancers. Available girls in Bangkok are often older than in Pattaya (again in average) but usually speak a better English and are probably more "stylish" and less "childish".

As always, your mileage may vary on these topics.

Warbucks
12-04-08, 03:30
For certain the hotels in Pattaya are cheaper than Bangkok. Pattaya 500 - 1000 baht are the most common, Bangkok 1000 - 2000 are most common, so 2X.

100% of the girls in Pattaya are w-hores, Bangkok maybe 80% the other 20% are part timers, more freelancers in Bangkok. Maybe 1 - 2% are not in the game and you can meet them ...... no idea where to meet a Thai that is not a HO, never met one.

Many places in Pattaya for a 35 baht bottle of Tiger or even Heinekin. Bangkok, not really. Gogos are much cheaper in Pattaya, again no question. Many gogos to drink all night for 50 - 55 baht drafts, Bangkok none except happy hour. Soi Cowboy happy hour 60 - 70 baht bottles, 55 drafts several places.

Overall, Pattaya is about half the price of Bangkok. Girls in Bangkok much much better. Many times go a whole night in Pattaya without seeing a good looking HO.

There are a lot of Thai girls who are not *****s.....All around Bangkok and all around Thailand. Us Foreigners just seem to love the ***** and ***** areas. If you are white you have a better shot then most in landing a decent Thai lady...

Not trying to start a flame war but my two...

Papae Noel
12-04-08, 05:12
My update on overland escape route from Thailand. Here is the link to my previous post.

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Paid 2500 Baht per person. Was given an itinerary which started with pickup from our Soi 4 hotel at 4:30PM. At 4:30 we head to another hotel and pick up a couple on their honeymoon. Then, to a small bus depot right in downtown area. It definitely was not Ekamai. There was no terminal. Just some picnic tables, and the omnipresent outdoor Thai food kitchen. Travelers arrived in groups, then were organized into a Kuala Lumpur group, a Phuket group, etc.

Eventually we depart on a double decker coach, sometime after 7PM. Arrived Surat Thani at around 6AM. Had some breakfast, and changed to our second coach. Left around 7AM, arriving in Hat Yai at 3 PM. The roads in Southern Thailand had experienced significant flooding, but still we made reasonable progress all the way to Hat Yai. In Hat Yai, there was some confusion about where and when our next bus was. It eventually showed up. An antiquated school bus, with too few seats. Another 90 minutes to the Malaysian border at Sadao. I think it was here in Sadao where we changed back to another clean comfortable coach. Cleared Thai customs, back on the bus, then pull off bags to clear Malaysian customs. Everything went smooth. Drove about 1 hour south, and stopped for my first Malaysian road stop dinner. It's about 500 km from the border to K. L. , so about 8 hours driving. Arrived in K. L. At around 2AM, and had to find a hotel. Sure enough, there are plenty of low grade flop house type rooms, that might have sufficed, but we were beat, and those wouldn't do. By luck, found a Swiss Garden, just a 5 minute walk from the train station. A very nice buffet breakfast was included.

Next day, took the 11:30 bus to Singapore, paid 39 Ringgit ($1 U. S. = 3. 6 MR). Left late, at around noon. Clearing Malaysian customs was quick, but Singapore's took about 45 minutes. So, finally arrived at bus station well past 6PM. Spent the night, and thankfully, we were confirmed on our flight out that very next day, since it was 100 percent full.

One of the members, Blair, made a great point about the bus from K. L.. Singapore being easier and cheaper. I know the airfare is pretty reasonable, I heard about $50, but then there's a long ride out to KUL (international airport), and waiting for a flight, cramped space, etc. , I found the bus to be a very relaxing trip. I had my laptop, watched a movie, listened to podcasts and music on my IPOD, read the newspaper, etc. He mentioned 5 hours. Our trip was just under 7 hours, but we did have a long wait at Customs, and then very heavy Singapore rush hour traffic.

We stayed at a nice hotel right on Orchard Rd, but I'd probably try Blair's Geylang Road suggestion next time. I'd also like to do some adventuring in K. L. The Malaysians really seemed to be very hospitable, with a friendly attitude towards "westerners". Very good roads in Malaysia, and just about everything I saw in Malaysia seemed to be better maintained. Maybe Thailand tourism will lose some business to Malaysia after this debacle.

The Bangkok airport siege is now over, but the backlog of passengers is estimated at over 300, 000. It's going to take quite some time to get everyone home, but to me, the real question is how long will it be before many of these tourists will want to come back after having been through this ordeal. I am happy for the people of Thailand that their crisis has come to an end, that the red shirts and yellow shirts put aside their differences, and politcal stability returns. I hope to return within a few months.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Guerrero
12-05-08, 12:44
Firstly I wanted to thank all of you posting very informative reports in this thread! I am thinking about a trip to Bangkok over the new year and it will be my first trip to Thailand. I usually travel to Sth America and have grown accustomed to the petite toned and fake breasted body of the brazilian or argentine girl. And form experiences with Thai escorts in London many do have implants. I know everyone has their own tastes but I wanted to ask whether it is easy to find girls in Bangkok with implants?

Your advice is much appreciated.

Guerrero

Akka76
12-05-08, 14:49
I had a greta route planned. Walk across the border into Cambodia, taxi to Siem reap, and a plane through HCM to Hong Kong where I live. But before I set off this morning, and as we were going past the airport anyway, I nipped in quickly, and walked up the the Cathay counter. Repatriation flight was available at 11. 30, 14:00. 16:30 and 19:00. One way, 5000 baht. On the 2pm, and back home now. Hope you enjoyed your trip but a word to the wise, the airport is functional, and basically empty. People seem to be staying away so it was a most pleasurable experience today. Only bad side is that all the shops have no Marli Lights in stock. Half sad to miss out on the adventure, but hell, I'm home and only 1k HKD down. So if you're stuck, get your but to the airport and walk onto a flight. Easy peasey.

Mpilot
12-06-08, 02:56
Hello friends

Just a quick question. Could some please clarify exactly how long is generally a ST and LT? .

Yr help would be much apperciated

Cheers

Akka76
12-06-08, 03:24
for certain the hotels in pattaya are cheaper than bangkok. pattaya 500 - 1000 baht are the most common, bangkok 1000 - 2000 are most common, so 2x.

100% of the girls in pattaya are w-hores, bangkok maybe 80% the other 20% are part timers, more freelancers in bangkok. maybe 1 - 2% are not in the game and you can meet them ...... no idea where to meet a thai that is not a ho, never met one.i really hpoe this is a tongue in cheek joke rather than a seriously held belief. what a pile of rubbish. i'm guessing that the venerable khun l spends his time in nana and pattaya and his few words of thai expand to mak mak, and short time.

there are a lot of pros in most areas of thailand for sure but to imply that all women there are hookers is just stupid and is quite dangerous. assume for a moment that some random red neck scroat reads your comments; goes to bangkok, walks into a normal bar, talks to a girl, follows her out thinking she is a hooker, she protests, he [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) her and kills her because his up to date information from you is that she is a hooker and will give out. this maybe going too far i know, but there are lesser consequences of your misinformed advice that would cause hurt, offence, and trouble to many people there.

Betong
12-06-08, 04:48
One of the members, Blair, made a great point about the bus from K. L.. Singapore being easier and cheaper.I think this whole trip would have been a lot easier and faster via regular public transport. If anyone ever needs to do it again (these days in Thailand you never know . . . ) just go to Bangkok's Southern Bus Terminal and catch a VIP bus to Hatyai, 12 hours. Then another to KL, about 7 hours. Or if you're in a hurry, taxi from Hatyai to Alor Star just across the Malaysian border and fly to KL. You could leave Bangkok after dinner and be in KL for lunch the next day.

Retired Army
12-06-08, 05:39
I wanted to ask whether it is easy to find girls in Bangkok with implants?

Your advice is much appreciated.

Guerrero


Not only can you find girls with implants, you can also find guys.

Papae Noel
12-06-08, 05:59
Thanks Betong,

I am going to look into that next year, just to know. Glad for the tip. However, I am seriously thinking of riding the train on this route. Has to be nicer than a bus.

NicFrenchy
12-06-08, 06:02
Not only can you find girls with implants, you can also find guys.

Hahahahaha that was funny :D

M P Lurker
12-06-08, 06:42
Not only can you find girls with implants, you can also find guys.
Yes I was immediately thinking of all the LBs with great implants too. Perhaps he would like Cascade bar in Nana Plaza :eek: Its not safe to go looking for implants in NP or Patpong ;)

The bars in Soi Cowboy are safe from LBs but will find every type of tits. Small, big, implants, naturals.

A high proportion of top coyote girls have implants in my experience. I prefer naturals that shake and sway properly.
I even know a girl with natural Ds for when when I am in a big tit mood which is not that often. I am more of a pretty face and sexy bum (of female type) man.

PinkPearl
12-06-08, 10:46
Sure it's been mentioned before but what's happened to one of the most entertaining posters (by entertaining I mean controversial, argumentative but always informative), OTH?? Hope he's well and writing his memoirs!

JohnthescotSelf imposed exile. As per a recent post in the Politics thread.

Any day now look for him to resurface in the Dubai forum under a new ghost.
Likely WCLoser, RearEndBias or P4PAdicked.

As for BKK, the *****s are quite desperate now with no custumers. So until
further notice the city is officially upgraded from third to seventh heaven.

Guerrero
12-06-08, 12:19
Thanks for you advice guys and well noted on the comments about LBs.

Guerrero

Retired Army
12-06-08, 15:02
I am more of a pretty face and sexy bum (of female type) man.


Thanks for clearing that up. We were beginning to wonder ;)

Bearsk
12-06-08, 19:20
We need more detail ... this "big tit mood" thing, it occurs once a month (full Moon) or just at New Year?
I get it when I see girls from Beijing or Hubei ... Not so often in BKK, where the face, a quality small set and a tight undercarriage usually rule the day.



I even know a girl with natural Ds for when when I am in a big tit mood which is not that often. I am more of a pretty face and sexy bum (of female type) man.

Rikusa
12-06-08, 22:20
Any good deals on hotels in the lower Suk out too about Asoke for 3 weeks -1 month

Rikusa

Nauskas
12-06-08, 23:47
Any good deals on hotels in the lower Suk out too about Asoke for 3 weeks -1 month

Rikusa

I have been in hotels beyond a month, once for over a year. You can always negotiate a discount, bit its best directly with the hotel reservations director\manager. get things like free Internet or breakfast included or not.

An apartment is probably a better option for the money, but if you are looking for hotel type living then a corporate or serviced apartment is what you want.

Personally I would look for the newest hotels since they will be pressed to fill and more open to offering a bargain. with a lull in high season visitors for many reasons, keeping up occupancy numbers will be more important than bickering over price for a hotelier.

NicFrenchy
12-07-08, 03:28
I have been in hotels beyond a month, once for over a year. You can always negotiate a discount, bit its best directly with the hotel reservations director\manager. get things like free Internet or breakfast included or not.

An apartment is probably a better option for the money, but if you are looking for hotel type living then a corporate or serviced apartment is what you want.

Personally I would look for the newest hotels since they will be pressed to fill and more open to offering a bargain. with a lull in high season visitors for many reasons, keeping up occupancy numbers will be more important than bickering over price for a hotelier.

From what I can see (massive Layoffs), the tourism industry is hurting, badly so if you want to negotiate hotel discounts, NOW is a good time.

Betong
12-07-08, 06:57
However, I am seriously thinking of riding the train on this route. Has to be nicer than a bus.The train is great. Get the "Butterworth Express" which leaves Bangkok Hualampong at 2:45 in the afternoon. I like to read a bit, listen to podcasts, enjoy the scenery etc. till 5 or so when I go to the dining car for some food and a few beers. Come back to my bunk and the bed is already made up (the one you want is 2nd class sleeper lower bunk). Get a good night's sleep, wake up at 6:30 just before Hatyai. It then carries on to Butterworth/Penang, arriving about noon. Traveling the slow but civilized way.