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Member #4698
11-22-18, 12:28
Is it possible to find some beautiful Vietnamese hookers in Bangkok, I plan on going to Thailand in January for 6 weeks. I can pay 10 000 bahts for beautiful Vietnamese or Chinese women long term. I ll visit Thailand for vacational purpose, because it's a beautiful country and there are many things to do outside of mongering scenes. So if I don't fuck any girl I won't be sad when I leave Thailand.
I read Thai hookers are not good looking. Most Chinese hookers were ugly in China and Hong Kong unlike Chinese normal women, I ent up fucking a Russian hooker in China and a Colombian hooker in Hong Kong. I am still virgin for Asian women except for Japanese Brazilians.Dude, you are in for a BIG, happy, surprise when you visit LOS. I don't know how or where you got the idea that Thai working girls are not good looking or for that matter Chinese hookers in China are ugly, let alone that Viets are somehow better looking than the rest; that is all rubbish. Here is the truth:
There are plenty of attractive Thai working girls in BKK and Pat that will be thrilled to make your acquaintance given your price level. Forget the imports. Thailand is one country where you are better off with the local talent. Jakarta, Indonesia & the Philippines are two other countries where the indigenous talent is best. I do believe I and other board members have listed the better high talent Go Go's and Soapy massage parlors. RTFF. And when you arrive in Thailand just go out and look around.
In summary: Thailand is for Thai girls. Don't waste your time and money on the imports. The Philippines is for Pinays. Jakarta Indonesia is for Indo girls although some attractive imports are available in the top bordellos there. Vietnam, Singapore, Macau, Shanghai is for Viets. For example; you will find some very, very attractive Vietnamese girls in Singapore, but you will also find some not so attractive Viets there as well. In Macau Saunas the best looking girls are Chinese & Korean. There is no argument about that. Viets are way down on the list although there are many, many Viets in Macau and quite a few are doable as sure as many are fugly. Hong Kong used to have a good supply of Viets, but they have all but disappeared in recent years due to visa changes. This is one of the reasons Wanchai bars now suck.
So Good Luck Hunting. Report back.
Jakarta Indonesia is for Indo girls although some attractive imports are available in the top bordellos there. The hottest girl I was ever with in Jakarta was a Vietnamese girl in Alexis. Smoking hot. The hottest girl I was ever with in Malaysia was also a vietnamese girl in a bordello, absolutely stunning. The hottest girl I had in Thailand was Thai, in Singapore it was a vietnamese, in China it was a Chinese girl, in Macau it was a vietnamese, in Cambodia it was a vietnamese. There does seem to be a trend for me. I do think vietnamese girls are the best looking Asian girls, but there are hot local girls in every country. Strange thing is I do not like Vietnam.
Member #4698
11-22-18, 16:35
The hottest girl I was ever with in Jakarta was a Vietnamese girl in Alexis. Smoking hot. The hottest girl I was ever with in Malaysia was also a vietnamese girl in a bordello, absolutely stunning. The hottest girl I had in Thailand was Thai, in Singapore it was a vietnamese, in China it was a Chinese girl, in Macau it was a vietnamese, in Cambodia it was a vietnamese. There does seem to be a trend for me. I do think vietnamese girls are the best looking Asian girls, but there are hot local girls in every country. Strange thing is I do not like Vietnam.Hey Smoothy, I like Vietnamese girls too. Just never bothered with them in LOS.
Jakarta: in 2016 I had the pleasure of a very attractive 26 year old Viet girl in Alexis. She was trained as a ballerina and showed me some of her impressive moves. The current lineup of Vietnamese girls in 1001 Hotel is not as good. I stuck with the Indonesian girls this time although I did take an attractive Kazak girl upstairs in Malioboro one night.
Singapore seems to be the best place to find really attractive Viets nowadays. I will never forget the Viet stunner I met in Brix in Singapore a few years back. She was probably the most attractive girl I ever did in Singapore although it's a close call when I think about this half Chinese ethnic Pinay, I met there a few years back as well. I was just in Singapore a couple of weeks ago and took another pretty Vietnamese girl out of Brix. While she was no stunner in the strictest sense, she was sexy and thin and very nice to be with. Ipanema was full of Vietnamese girls this last trip. You can call it little Saigon. LOL. And there are a number of Vietnamese houses in Geylang as well.
Macau: While I have done a few Vietnamese girls in Macau those trysts are few and far between because the talent is really with the Chinese and Korean girls there. This last trip I had a number of really good sessions with 2 Chinese girls and with a Singapore girl (my 2nd Singapore national in Macau). I asked the Singaporean what her ethnic origins were and she said not Chinese, so I am at a loss as to what she was. All I know is that she was exotic Asiatic type and awfully pretty. I liked her so much in fact that I did her twice. I also had a thigh massage (HJ) almost every night while I was in Macau. They were all lovingly performed by various engaging Vietnamese girls.
Like you I did not like Vietnam for mongering purposes and I do not plan to return. It's too bad, but things are not set up right for our sport in that country. That's probably why so many Vietnamese professional girls go abroad to work. Hong Kong used to be loaded with them. No longer. Sad. Cambodia used to have a lot of them too, but not that much anymore. Oh well. Times change.
Blanquiceleste
11-22-18, 17:09
Singapore seems to be the best place to find really attractive Viets nowadays. I will never forget the Viet stunner I met in Brix in Singapore a few years back. She was probably the most attractive girl I ever did in Singapore although it's a close call when I think about this half Chinese ethnic Pinay, I met there a few years back as well. I was just in Singapore a couple of weeks ago and took another pretty Vietnamese girl out of Brix. While she was no stunner in the strictest sense, she was sexy and thin and very nice to be with. Ipanema was full of Vietnamese girls this last trip. You can call it little Saigon. LOL. And there are a number of Vietnamese houses in Geylang as well.Bang on about the quality of Viets in Singapore. However, the ones in Ipanema and Geylang are dogs IMHO.
The absolute stunners (with / without clothes and makeup) are in the high end KTV clubs where one can drop $5000 a night without batting an eyelid.
Hey Smoothy, I like Vietnamese girls too. Just never bothered with them in LOS.I don't think I have even met a vietnamese girl in Thailand. I have no idea where they would be.
I don't think I have even met a vietnamese girl in Thailand. I have no idea where they would be.Mixx was loaded with them last time I was there.
MongerForSex
11-22-18, 19:10
Dude, you are in for a BIG, happy, surprise when you visit LOS. I don't know how or where you got the idea that Thai working girls are not good looking or for that matter Chinese hookers in China are ugly, let alone that Viets are somehow better looking than the rest; that is all rubbish. Here is the truth:
There are plenty of attractive Thai working girls in BKK and Pat that will be thrilled to make your acquaintance given your price level. Forget the imports. Thailand is one country where you are better off with the local talent. Jakarta, Indonesia & the Philippines are two other countries where the indigenous talent is best. I do believe I and other board members have listed the better high talent Go Go's and Soapy massage parlors. RTFF. And when you arrive in Thailand just go out and look around.Thanks for the useful info, if I can get laid with some beautiful Thais in Thailand, I will be happy to session with Thai women. Some people also say good looking hookers in Thailand are not good performers. I am living in Brazil performance is very important to me, most good looking Brazilian hookers and normal women are good performers in Brazil. I mongered in Mexico and Colombia, the performance was OK but not as good as in Brazil maybe because I am Brazilian and speak Portuguese, that's why its easier to monger in Brazil for me. Some people say Viets are nicer and more beautiful than Thais but unfortunately Vietnam is very conservative like China that's why you only find ugly hookers there. If I pay expensive I also pay for performance, I don't fuck just because the girl is hot. Also Thai women, the more you pay the worse the performance is. Viets when you treat them well they treat you well they are also happy for little. Thais always want more and only offer a mediocre service. Maybe I am ignorant, so sorry I have no experience in Thailand.
https://lifearoundasia.com/vietnamese-girls-vs-thai-girls/ I am not interested in serious relationship, I just want to have good time with nice good looking Asians that deserve my money. I fuck everyday in Brazil I just want to have sex with beautiful Asian girls from Asia. I have only fucked Japanese Brazilians in my life.
I don't think I have even met a vietnamese girl in Thailand. I have no idea where they would be.There are a few sharing room in the white building behind Nana city hotel. You can find them in Thermae but it is easier to find them on WeChat. I have them with price range from 2000 B to 3000 B.
I don't think it is worth it for me. I suggest not go to their room, it is pretty bad by Bangkok standard.
Etaoin2003
11-22-18, 20:24
Ran into a drop-dead gorgeous Viet girl on Suk near soi 5 after closing. She wore a red dress, which slays me, but she wanted 2 K at 3 am And I was feeling cheap. Still kicking myself.
Ran into a drop-dead gorgeous Viet girl on Suk near soi 5 after closing. She wore a red dress, which slays me, but she wanted 2 K at 3 am And I was feeling cheap. Still kicking myself.What was she doing there?
Thanks for the useful info, if I can get laid with some beautiful Thais in Thailand, I will be happy to session with Thai women. Some people also say good looking hookers in Thailand are not good performers. I am living in Brazil performance is very important to me, most good looking Brazilian hookers and normal women are good performers in Brazil. I mongered in Mexico and Colombia, the performance was OK but not as good as in Brazil maybe because I am Brazilian and speak Portuguese, that's why its easier to monger in Brazil for me. Some people say Viets are nicer and more beautiful than Thais but unfortunately Vietnam is very conservative like China that's why you only find ugly hookers there. If I pay expensive I also pay for performance, I don't fuck just because the girl is hot. Also Thai women, the more you pay the worse the performance is. Viets when you treat them well they treat you well they are also happy for little. Thais always want more and only offer a mediocre service. Maybe I am ignorant, so sorry I have no experience in Thailand.
https://lifearoundasia.com/vietnamese-girls-vs-thai-girls/ I am not interested in serious relationship, I just want to have good time with nice good looking Asians that deserve my money. I fuck everyday in Brazil I just want to have sex with beautiful Asian girls from Asia. I have only fucked Japanese Brazilians in my life.I have spent a lot of time in Brazil and in Thailand. The standard level of service in Brazil is very high where the girl really loves to fuck and will do everything a deviate mind could think of with anal / CIM normal. It is very easy to find a young (18 to 25) attractive Brazilian girl that will be amazing in bed, at least appear to be really into it and will basically fuck like a porn star. In Brazil you have a 50/50 chance of finding an amazing GDP every night that will blow your mind with performance.
In Thailand it is not easy to find a young (18 to 25) attractive Thai girl that will provide a standard of level close to a Brazilian girl. They are a lot more conservative, tend to be submissive and the ass is not readily available. In thailand I lower my expectation when going out and usually end up with something that is just passable as a sexual experience, very really if ever do I get my "mind blown" by the performance. It is more a "well at least I cracked a nut" kind of experience.
If you look at a few thai and then Brazilian pornos you will see the difference. Brazilian girls really active, thai girls not so much. So you may find some great fucks in Thailand but just don't expect it to be as easy as living in Brazil.
I know that I will probably be flamed by people that love BKK and that is ok. Opinions are like assholes, every body has one and this is just mine.
There are a few sharing room in the white building behind Nana city hotel. You can find them in Thermae but it is easier to find them on WeChat. I have them with price range from 2000 B to 3000 B.
I don't think it is worth it for me. I suggest not go to their room, it is pretty bad by Bangkok standard.I and other expats have also met a couple of Viet girls standing on the sidewalk across from Nana Condo on Soi 4, the sidewalk in front of Hillary 1. I was flagged over and chatted with a couple of them, attractive enough, but their reaction to the idea of finishing a BBBJ with CIM was as though that was the worst thing they could imagine any woman doing at any price. BBFS was also utterly out of the question. They didn't last long on that Soi. And I don't mean because they got so many interested customers. For weeks I would see both of them standing there, chatting up a potential customer or two and never walking away with any of them.
Banana Boi
11-23-18, 04:56
The hottest girl I was ever with in Malaysia was also a vietnamese girl in a bordello, absolutely stunning.
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Strange thing is I do not like Vietnam.What's the name of the Malaysian bordello? Is it still there?
Why didn't you like Vietnam? I actually like Vietnam as a place to visit but have never been to Ho Chi Minh itself. Starting to change now with all the Chinese tourists. Like the others I also like Vietnamese girls and think they are naturally more pretty. Problem is the HCM hobbying scene is so underground that it's very difficult to accumulate data. Any Vietnam experts feel free to help me out.
What's the name of the Malaysian bordello? Is it still there?It was 20 years ago in a seedy hotel that some random taxi driver took me to. I wouldn't be able to find it again if I tried.
Why didn't you like Vietnam? I actually like Vietnam as a place to visit but have never been to Ho Chi Minh itself. Starting to change now with all the Chinese tourists. Like the others I also like Vietnamese girls and think they are naturally more pretty. Problem is the HCM hobbying scene is so underground that it's very difficult to accumulate data. Any Vietnam experts feel free to help me out.I am no expert, and I hear things are very different now. But some 20 years ago the scene was so underground even my long time previous Vietnamese girlfriend, who was in Ho Chi Minh City with me at the time, could not crack it for me with massage shops and bars even when she had made it her mission to find a good time for me that way.
Women were not allowed to enter a hotel room with a man unless you could prove she was your wife. Not even a female friend with no intentions of having sex with you. There was no evidence of P4P in the massage shops, in the bars or on the streets. By 9PM, the streets of the city were practically empty.
Then I discovered there was a "taxi dance" establishment downstairs right below the hotel I was staying in at the time. I think it was called Liberty Hotel, on one of the main boulevards. I don't remember the name of the dance club, if it had a name at all. You pay a girl some small amount of money to whirl around on the dance floor with her. But it was made fairly clear that these were hookers. The management carried clip boards with names and stats of the girls and asked me if I would like to meet a lady who spoke English. Sure. They brought over an absolute stunner. Young, physical perfection, face like an angel.
We chatted. I didn't give a shit about dancing and neither did she really. In the chat/negotiation, she was reluctant to agree to me cumming inside her without a condom due to possible pregnancy but did agree to have me pull out near the end and she would give me a blowjob to full completion and swallow every drop! You bet I was into that. The cost, as I recall, came in at something like $100 USD at the time. Expensive for those days. But damn worth it as far as I was concerned and it was what we settled on to get the best treatment I would want with this little lady.
But she could not leave the "dance hall" with me or the police would bust both of us as soon as we stepped outside. And we could not just go upstairs to my hotel room. So the deal was that she would change from her lovely ballroom dress into regular jeans and t-shirt street clothes and meet me outside in about 30 minutes after the "dance hall" closed at 11:30PM. Then I would have to hire an auto taxi for me while she got on a motorbike taxi and my taxi would follow hers to some private residence down an unknown street in the belly of HCMC. The private residence would rent out one of their bedrooms with shower for us to do our thing.
LOL. Remember how I said the streets of the city were practically empty by 9PM? Well, at around 11:30PM, when all those underground (often literally) "dance halls" closed, the streets of HCMC were suddenly packed with taxis following young Viet girls on motorbikes down alleys and small streets to their P4P rendezvous. LOL.
After we finished, truly memorable for me right to the fantastic, sweet and complete finish, I paid her and she had the matron of the private residence walk out onto the street to flag down a taxi to take me back to my hotel. There was no way they would allow me to walk out and flag down my own taxi.
As I said, I hear things are quite a bit more liberal than that in HCMC these days. But maybe there are still some remnants of that taxi dance hall method going on there.
Pointy Stick
11-23-18, 10:54
Saigon is a hard nut to crack. I've only been to Bennys and a place (now closed but had the hottest asian girl blow me) down the street for walk in BBBJ several years ago. The Bennys girl rimmed and and did CIM and asked if I wanted to go again for USD $16.
As a foreigner I got approached a few times by girls on motorbikes who would ask me if I wanted to go with them which I did once so this may be a way into the scene. Just get her phone number. On my next visit I happened to go past the hotel she took me and there was this ultra slutty girl outside.
Its not a place where you can go and expect to get laid easily but it has great potential. In a way this is great because the casual two week millionaire will find it hard crack and look for easier locations so it favours dedicated mongers. Viet girls are more beautiful then TGs.
What's the name of the Malaysian bordello? Is it still there?
Why didn't you like Vietnam? I actually like Vietnam as a place to visit but have never been to Ho Chi Minh itself. Starting to change now with all the Chinese tourists. Like the others I also like Vietnamese girls and think they are naturally more pretty. Problem is the HCM hobbying scene is so underground that it's very difficult to accumulate data. Any Vietnam experts feel free to help me out.
Member #4591
11-23-18, 11:44
So many debates and so many questions in my PM's and the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4 P. I will start with Craig's List. CL no longer has their traditional categories for mongering. The providers are now posting in the beauty section, services section and any other section for that matter. This is my least favorite option as there is a lot bullshit to weed through and the ladies are less than reliable. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, Bee Talk, Scout / Meet Me, Thai Joop, Facebook, and Tinder. WE Chat is quite easy as everything is out in the open but watch out for ladyboys. The ladies all post very clearly what their intentions are. It is the other sites that are a little more challenging. All of them offer free options and paid options to enhance the experience. For the sake of this post, I will use Thai Friendly as the example as it is the most popular and widely discussed on this board and is the only one that is worth paying for. I even have a secret trick on how to get their premium service for free. First, I will clear up all the misconceptions for everyone. Regular members can message once every 10 minutes but if the girl is too popular, free accounts cannot message her. The premium account comes with unlimited massaging to all members with no waiting time between sent messages and your messages are put at the top of the lady's inbox. You can also hide things like your online status and Joined date. These are valuable tools. Well worth the 699 baht per month. For all you skeptics, any decent looking lady gets thousands of messages each day. If you don't believe me, ask the next girl you chat with. She will tell you she just can't reply to everyone so having your message go to the top of her inbox, is an excellent advantage over being a free member. The BKK section is about 50% normal girls and 50% P4 P, don't talk with me about Pattaya as this is not the Pattaya thread. However, it is not easy to unlock 100% of the P4 P ladies. Some only do it part time and some are selective. For the hottest girls, search 18-24 year old. From there, send a message saying " Do you want to make money?" With this proven method, you will score. The university girls looking for a quick tuition fix are your targets. They will offer the best GFE with mostly no mention of a condom. You can get them for 3-4 K baht for the night, LT. This is strictly P4 P guys. I have other methods I use to find the good ladies for short or long time girlfriends. Finally, mongers get so obsessed with Line. Line is not any magical way into a Thai girl's pants. It is just heir preferred method of contact because it is cheap. More on this later.
Next, freelancers and the bar scene. I frequent Insanity, Mixx, Levels, and Spasso. Climax used to be the go to place but it is still closed and will hopefully open again in the new Year. Insanity, relocated to Soi 11 is the best bet for reasonable rates and decent quality. 2,500-3000 baht will get you ST or LT depending on the lady. Mixx and Levels commands a higher level of quality with the girls dressed to kill and asking 3-4 K for ST and 5-6 K for LT. Then Spasso where the ladies ask the same but normally only for ST. There you will find older and more polished ladies as well as some non-Thai girls. As for Thermae, It mainly appeals to the Japanese crowd if that's your thing, please know It is hit and miss for most farangs. 2000-3000ST is the average. Never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control.
Next, massage shops. I choose Tulip for the hands down best PSE experience. Every time I get multiple pops of pure porn star action with BBFS, CIP, and CIM action. The price list is simple.
1,900 baht for 1 hour, 2,100 baht for 90 minutes, and 2,300 baht for 2 hours. I never pay upfront. This is the same for Snow White. However, I always get BBFS there but CIP only 50% of the time. The SW girls are genuinely better looking than the girls at Tulip. I am not a fan of A+ but it is always available. When I am looking for the kind of Thai girls who normally go with Asians, I go to Merci on Ratchada. The non-inflated rates are as follows:
Code Type Price Time.
And xxx 1800 1 hour 30 minutes.
V xxx 2000 1 hour 30 minutes.
S xxx 2800 1 hour 30 minutes.
Are xxx 3300 1 hour 30 minutes.
M xxx 3800 1 hour 30 minutes.
L xxx 4800 1 hour 30 minutes.
XL xxx 5800 1 hour 30 minutes.
The farang surcharge is 500 baht. I can speak some Thai so I avoid that. The ladies have a whiter complexion and normally appeal to the Chinese and Thai customers. I always get BBBJ but sex is always covered. You will need to pay first here every time.
Go go bars and bars with bar fines. In Soi Cowboy, first CH. The bar fine for me has always been 7-800 Baht and I love this place for the nude dancing. However, there is a constant pressure to buy LDs which may not appeal to some of the stingier members. Beware of this LD hustle as you may buy a few while the lady has another customer lined up for a bar fine. I always choose my girl and then negotiate the bar fine first. Then I pay the bar fine and sit and relax with the girl and drink. I often go ST for 3000 to the ST room at the end of the soi or LT to my condo for 4-5 K baht depending on the girl's rates. Keep in mind, I mostly never discuss rates with the girls and give them these prices as they are the going rates and fair. Additionally, I almost always get what I want such as BBFS or CIM. I think a lot of that has to do with my easy going attitude. While drinking before we go, she can then have as many LDs as she wants. Keep note, with the many complaints of bill padding, the bar now asks you to sign every bill as you order and drink. 80% of the time, I have a good experience Now onto Sharks. I don't need to be so strict with the LDs and bar fine here as I have never bought LDs and then been refused a bar fine here. The bar fine is 1000-1500 for the coyotes and 800 for the normal girls. Often the coyotes are less attractive for some reason. They have topless dancing sometimes. I also pay the same rates for LT and ST and almost never discuss them with the lady. I just pay after the deed is done. This may not work for everyone, especially for the Cheap Charlies but it is what I believe the reason is for my success at a true GFE. My go to places in Nana are Butterflies and Billboard. I mostly follow the same rules here. Billboard being the one where I refuse to buy LDs for any girl until after I have paid my bar fine. As for the bars, I like to go to many of the small bars on Soi 4, Morning Night and the many Hillaries. Bar fines are about 500 baht and you can sometimes find a diamond in the ruff at these places. 80% of the time, I drank with the girls, then paid their bar fine, and took them for ST or LT and got a real GFE with BBFS and CIP. I always pay 3000ST and 4000 LT. Again, never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control.
Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat and the VN equivalent of Line, Zalo. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3000ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. The Africans are sticking to Tinder these days but they are slowly being driven out by the new immigration crackdown. I would advise against hiring any of them while the spotlight is on their race.
Moving to escort agencies. I only use Smooci and only when I am too lazy to go out. I love Smooci because of the convenience factor as well as the rates are well below the rates for the same girl from their home agency. The customer service by them is also top notch. Their premium service is well worth the money for tourists or occasional visits but if you are a local expat, I would advise against it. Travellers can use the reviews and comments and verified photos to save time and ensure themselves a better chance of a good experience. Local expats like myself don't require that as we can afford to have the odd bad experience because we have all the time in the world. Premium members can book for 1 hour while no members must book 2 hours at a minimum. Please keep in mind that whatever age you see for the girl on smooci, add 5 years to it and then you will maybe still be under her real age. Very few post their actual age and untouched photos. Also the girls can review you just as you can review them. Keep that in mind when posting a nasty review. There are ways you can complain by posting a negative review without offending the ladies. Prices range from 2,700 up to 12,000 baht. These days there are many more independents there and the selection of ladies is improving daily. Pay attention as some areas will incur a travel surcharge. Please pay attention to the page after you select your address for this. You must always pay first.
Finally, the local scene. For this, I use various sideline websites, Bee talk, The Pimp and the Saphan Kwai bar area. This takes some Thai language skills and some patience. Bee talk has the sideline girls under the radar section but be careful what you say as bee talk will ban you for soliciting sex. You and the lady must talk in a general way and try to move the conversation to another method. You can generally get ST for 2000 baht and up depending on the girl. Sideline websites such fin fan fan are hit and miss as most ladies will ignore farngs. Be polite but it is a crap shoot. Most encounters will happen in ST rooms that the girl will rent for the entire day to entertain clients or you will need to meet the girl at a local hotel of her choosing. This will be a completely different experience as the ladies will be dick scared and shy because of not speaking English. Service level will be a crap shoot but generally cheaper than what we as expats normally pay. The Pimp is a gentlemen's club in the Town in Town area of BKK. It caters to mostly older married Thai men with money who like to step out on their wives. If you are a cheap Charlie, this is not the place for you. However, the ladies are all white skinned, clinically beautiful and sexy. You can choose a membership which includes sets of bottles or you can buy a ala carte one for 4000 baht if you don't want to be a member. They often have great promotions for non- members. Be sure to go with a group of friends to share the costs. As for the ladies, you pay a fee of 1000-2000 baht for the first hour. This depends on the category of the lady. She will drink with you for that hour, wipe your ass for you when you go to the toilet, feed you snacks, dance with you, let you grope her, kiss you, feel you up, jack you over your pants, but she won't openly go with you outside for sex. Every additional hour is 500 baht. If you want a girl to go with you, you must discreetly discuss it during your time together. If she agrees, it will be a minimum of 6000ST but probably more. I have paid 6 K and as high as 10 K for ST. They are used to old Thai men with money so the sex will be hit and miss but you can know that you will be fucking a real stunner. Not all will be starfishes either. Next is Saphan Kwai. It is the go go bar area for the local Thai men. T-det is the name of the best bar there. The girls often dance on stripper poles and then come around to drink with customers. There is a very small fee to have a lady sit and drink with and the beer is cheap. There are no lady drinks and the bar really pushes you to order food for you and your chosen companion. Here, there is no bar fine. The shirt time rate is 1,500 baht for Thais and 2500 for farang. I normally pay 2000 as I am a regular. You will need to take the lady across the street to the hotel and the hotel is often included in the price you pay the bar. I often will also pay 2,500 and take the girl to my condo close by. You can get topless lap dances for 100 baht. For the local scene, paying upfront is the norm. If you don't want to pay first, don't take the chance and don't go swim with the local fish. All experiences are YMMV and Thai language skills will get you far. A good change of scenery.
About the Line App. Guys, Line is not a mythical and magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just their preferred method of contact because it is cheap. The people nearby search function is not available if you have your line account downloaded from another country where that feature is not available. Thailand is one of those places where it is not available. However, if you come from a country such as the USA where it is available, you can use it in Thailand but there will be no Thai girls there. If there are some, they probably are visiting from another country or for whatever reason, their Apple ID or google Play store account are not from Thailand. So, to be clear, this search function is not available in Thailand!
This is just my personal experience in Bangkok and it may not be the same as others. However, I have been very successful at achieving my mongering goals. Don't get me wrong though. I have made my share of mistakes too. The best way to prevent those is to RTFF. That's what it is here for. So the Seniors such as myself can make them for you and then post about them. Look at FL Hawk. He makes plenty of mistakes and he posts them so everyone else can learn from them.
***** Please stop sending me PMs asking for contact details for ladies. I will never share them with anyone unless I personally know you and we have mongered together.
Member #4591
11-23-18, 11:46
So many debates and so many questions in my PMs and the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4P. I will start with Craigs List. CL no longer has their traditional categories for mongering. The providers are now posting in the beauty section, services section and any other section for that matter. This is my least favorite option as there is a lot bullshit to weed through and the ladies are less than reliable. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, Bee Talk, Scout/Meet Me, Thai Joop, Facebook, and Tinder. WE Chat is quite easy as everything is out in the open but watch out for ladyboys. The ladies all post very clearly what their intentions are. It is the other sites that are a little more challenging. All of them offer free options and paid options to enhance the experience. For the sake of this post, I will use Thai Friendly as the example as it is the most popular and widely discussed on this board and is the only one that is worth paying for. I even have a secret trick on how to get their premium service for free. First, I will clear up all the misconceptions for everyone. Regular members can message once every 10 minutes but if the girl is too popular, free accounts cannot message her. The premium account comes with unlimited massaging to all members with no waiting time between sent messages and your messages are put at the top of the ladys inbox. You can also hide things like your online status and Joined date. These are valuable tools. Well worth the 699 baht per month. For all you skeptics, any decent looking lady gets thousands of messages each day. If you dont believe me, ask the next girl you chat with. She will tell you she just cant reply to everyone so having your message go to the top of her inbox, is an excellent advantage over being a free member. The BKK section is about 50% normal girls and 50% P4P, dont talk with me about Pattaya as this is not the Pattaya thread. However, it is not easy to unlock 100% of the P4P ladies. Some only do it part time and some are selective. For the hottest girls, search 18-24 year old. From there, send a message saying Do you want to make money? With this proven method, you will score. The university girls looking for a quick tuition fix are your targets. They will offer the best GFE with mostly no mention of a condom. You can get them for 3-4K baht for the night, LT. This is strictly P4P guys. I have other methods I use to find the good ladies for short or long time girlfriends. Finally, mongers get so obsessed with Line. Line is not any magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just heir preferred method of contact because it is cheap. More on this later.
Next, freelancers and the bar scene. I frequent Insanity, Mixx, Levels, and Spasso. Climax used to be the go to place but it is still closed and will hopefully open again in the new Year. Insanity, relocated to Soi 11 is the best bet for reasonable rates and decent quality. 2,500-3000 baht will get you ST or LT depending on the lady. Mixx and Levels commands a higher level of quality with the girls dressed to kill and asking 3-4K for ST and 5-6K for LT. Then Spasso where the ladies ask the same but normally only for ST. There you will find older and more polished ladies as well as some non-Thai girls. As for Thermae, It mainly appeals to the Japanese crowd if thats your thing, please know It is hit and miss for most farangs. 2000-3000ST is the average. Never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control.
Next, massage shops. I choose Tulip for the hands down best PSE experience. Every time I get multiple pops of pure porn star action with BBFS, CIP, and CIM action. The price list is simple.
1,900 baht for 1 hour, 2,100 baht for 90 minutes, and 2,300 baht for 2 hours. I never pay upfront. This is the same for Snow White. However, I always get BBFS there but CIP only 50% of the time. The SW girls are genuinely better looking than the girls at Tulip. I am not a fan of A+ but it is always available. When I am looking for the kind of Thai girls who normally go with Asians, I go to Merci on Ratchada. The non-inflated rates are as follows:
Code Type Price Time
N xxx 1800 1 hour 30 minutes.
V xxx 2000 1 hour 30 minutes.
S xxx 2800 1 hour 30 minutes.
R xxx 3300 1 hour 30 minutes.
M xxx 3800 1 hour 30 minutes.
L xxx 4800 1 hour 30 minutes.
XL xxx 5800 1 hour 30 minutes.
The farang surcharge is 500 baht. I can speak some Thai so I avoid that. The ladies have a whiter complexion and normally appeal to the Chinese and Thai customers. I always get BBBJ but sex is always covered. You will need to pay first here every time.
Go go bars and bars with bar fines. In Soi Cowboy, first CH. The bar fine for me has always been 7-800 Baht and I love this place for the nude dancing. However, there is a constant pressure to buy LDs which may not appeal to some of the stingier members. Beware of this LD hustle as you may buy a few while the lady has another customer lined up for a bar fine. I always choose my girl and then negotiate the bar fine first. Then I pay the bar fine and sit and relax with the girl and drink. I often go ST for 3000 to the ST room at the end of the soi or LT to my condo for 4-5K baht depending on the girls rates. Keep in mind, I mostly never discuss rates with the girls and give them these prices as they are the going rates and fair. Additionally, I almost always get what I want such as BBFS or CIM. I think a lot of that has to do with my easy going attitude. While drinking before we go, she can then have as many LDs as she wants. Keep note, with the many complaints of bill padding, the bar now asks you to sign every bill as you order and drink. 80% of the time, I have a good experience Now onto Sharks. I dont need to be so strict with the LDs and bar fine here as I have never bought LDs and then been refused a bar fine here. The bar fine is 1000-1500 for the coyotes and 800 for the normal girls. Often the coyotes are less attractive for some reason. They have topless dancing sometimes. I also pay the same rates for LT and ST and almost never discuss them with the lady. I just pay after the deed is done. This may not work for everyone, especially for the Cheap Charlies but it is what I believe the reason is for my success at a true GFE. My go to places in Nana are Butterflies and Billboard. I mostly follow the same rules here. Billboard being the one where I refuse to buy LDs for any girl until after I have paid my bar fine. As for the bars, I like to go to many of the small bars on Soi 4, Morning Night and the many Hillaries. Bar fines are about 500 baht and you can sometimes find a diamond in the ruff at these places. 80% of the time, I drank with the girls, then paid their bar fine, and took them for ST or LT and got a real GFE with BBFS and CIP. I always pay 3000 ST and 4000 LT. Again, never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control.
Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat and the VN equivalent of Line, Zalo. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3000 ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. The Africans are sticking to Tinder these days but they are slowly being driven out by the new immigration crackdown. I would advise against hiring any of them while the spotlight is on their race.
Moving to escort agencies. I only use Smooci and only when I am too lazy to go out. I love Smooci because of the convenience factor as well as the rates are well below the rates for the same girl from their home agency. The customer service by them is also top notch. Their premium service is well worth the money for tourists or occasional visits but if you are a local expat, I would advise against it. Travellers can use the reviews and comments and verified photos to save time and ensure themselves a better chance of a good experience. Local expats like myself dont require that as we can afford to have the odd bad experience because we have all the time in the world. Premium members can book for 1 hour while non members must book 2 hours at a minimum. Please keep in mind that whatever age you see for the girl on smooci, add 5 years to it and then you will maybe still be under her real age. Very few post their actual age and untouched photos. Also the girls can review you just as you can review them. Keep that in mind when posting a nasty review. There are ways you can complain by posting a negative review without offending the ladies. Prices range from 2,700 up to 12,000 baht. These days there are many more independents there and the selection of ladies is improving daily. Pay attention as some areas will incur a travel surcharge. Please pay attention to the page after you select your address for this. You must always pay first.
Finally, the local scene. For this, I use various sideline websites, Bee talk, The Pimp and the Saphan Kwai bar area. This takes some Thai language skills and some patience. Bee talk has the sideline girls under the radar section but be careful what you say as bee talk will ban you for soliciting sex. You and the lady must talk in a general way and try to move the conversation to another method. You can generally get ST for 2000 baht and up depending on the girl. Sideline websites such fin fan fan are hit and miss as most ladies will ignore farngs. Be polite but it is a crap shoot. Most encounters will happen in ST rooms that the girl will rent for the entire day to entertain clients or you will need to meet the girl at a local hotel of her choosing. This will be a completely different experience as the ladies will be dick scared and shy because of not speaking English. Service level will be a crap shoot but generally cheaper than what we as expats normally pay. The Pimp is a gentlemens club in the Town in Town area of BKK. It caters to mostly older married Thai men with money who like to step out on their wives. If you are a cheap Charlie, this is not the place for you. However, the ladies are all white skinned, clinically beautiful and sexy. You can choose a membership which includes sets of bottles or you can buy a ala carte one for 4000 baht if you dont want to be a member. They often have great promotions for non- members. Be sure to go with a group of friends to share the costs. As for the ladies, you pay a fee of 1000-2000 baht for the first hour. This depends on the category of the lady. She will drink with you for that hour, wipe your ass for you when you go to the toilet, feed you snacks, dance with you, let you grope her, kiss you, feel you up, jack you over your pants, but she wont openly go with you outside for sex. Every additional hour is 500 baht. If you want a girl to go with you, you must discreetly discuss it during your time together. If she agrees, it will be a minimum of 6000 ST but probably more. I have paid 6K and as high as 10K for ST. They are used to old Thai men with money so the sex will be hit and miss but you can know that you will be fucking a real stunner. Not all will be starfishes either. Next is Saphan Kwai. It is the go go bar area for the local Thai men. T-det is the name of the best bar there. The girls often dance on stripper poles and then come around to drink with customers. There is a very small fee to have a lady sit and drink with and the beer is cheap. There are no lady drinks and the bar really pushes you to order food for you and your chosen companion. Here, there is no bar fine. The shirt time rate is 1,500 baht for Thais and 2500 for farang. I normally pay 2000 as I am a regular. You will need to take the lady across the street to the hotel and the hotel is often included in the price you pay the bar. I often will also pay 2,500 and take the girl to my condo close by. You can get topless lap dances for 100 baht. For the local scene, paying upfront is the norm. If you dont want to pay first, dont take the chance and dont go swim with the local fish. All experiences are YMMV and Thai language skills will get you far. A good change of scenery.
About the Line App. Guys, Line is not a mythical and magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just their preferred method of contact because it is cheap. The people nearby search function is not available if you have your line account downloaded from another country where that feature is not available. Thailand is one of those places where it is not available. However, if you come from a country such as the USA where it is available, you can use it in Thailand but there will be no Thai girls there. If there are some, they probably are visiting from another country or for whatever reason, their Apple ID or google Play store account are not from Thailand. So, to be clear, this search function is not available in Thailand!!!!
This is just my personal experience in Bangkok and it may not be the same as others. However, I have been very successful at achieving my mongering goals. Dont get me wrong though. I have made my share of mistakes too. The best way to prevent those is to RTFF. Thats what it is here for. So the Seniors such as myself can make them for you and then post about them. Look at FL Hawk. He makes plenty of mistakes and he posts them so everyone else can learn from them.
***** Please stop sending me PMs asking for contact details for ladies. I will never share them with anyone unless I personally know you and we have mongered together.
MongerForSex
11-23-18, 12:09
I have spent a lot of time in Brazil and in Thailand. The standard level of service in Brazil is very high where the girl really loves to fuck and will do everything a deviate mind could think of with anal / CIM normal. It is very easy to find a young (18 to 25) attractive Brazilian girl that will be amazing in bed, at least appear to be really into it and will basically fuck like a porn star. In Brazil you have a 50/50 chance of finding an amazing GDP every night that will blow your mind with performance.
In Thailand it is not easy to find a young (18 to 25) attractive Thai girl that will provide a standard of level close to a Brazilian girl. They are a lot more conservative, tend to be submissive and the ass is not readily available. In thailand I lower my expectation when going out and usually end up with something that is just passable as a sexual experience, very really if ever do I get my "mind blown" by the performance. It is more a "well at least I cracked a nut" kind of experience.
If you look at a few thai and then Brazilian pornos you will see the difference. Brazilian girls really active, thai girls not so much. So you may find some great fucks in Thailand but just don't expect it to be as easy as living in Brazil.
I know that I will probably be flamed by people that love BKK and that is ok. Opinions are like assholes, every body has one and this is just mine.Thanks for sharing your experience.
As you said, I have to lower my expectation when I go to Thailand. I plan to go to Thailand just for vacation but if I don't fuck any Thai girl, it's OK for me because my main goal is to visit a new country.
I've fucked Colombian, Mexican, American, South African, Russian women, nothing beats Brazilian performance. I've had good sex with women from other countries but my best fucks was with Brazilians. Maybe there are some exceptions in Thailand but as you said it won't be easy to find one. Brazil and Thailand are two different countries. I love anal sex and many Thais won't be available to be ass fucked in Thailand. It will kill my desire to fuck in Thailand.
Blanquiceleste
11-23-18, 15:04
I am no expert, and I hear things are very different now. But some 20 years ago the scene was so underground even my long time previous Vietnamese girlfriend, who was in Ho Chi Minh City with me at the time, could not crack it for me with massage shops and bars even when she had made it her mission to find a good time for me that way.
It was 20 years ago in a seedy hotel that some random taxi driver took me to. I wouldn't be able to find it again if I tried.Ho Hum. Next.
Etaoin2003
11-23-18, 16:28
What was she doing there?She was walking with a sense of purpose, not just hanging around, and I think she was calling it a night and heading for her room.
......................... Like the others I also like Vietnamese girls and think they are naturally more pretty...........Nataree had some lovely Viets. I wonder where they sauntered off to?
Kalle Kula
11-23-18, 21:51
Hi,
I am planning my first ever trip to LOS.
I have some experience meEting working girls in Europe. Both escorts and girls at massage parlours.
Not using a condom have never even been discussed.
I have read many reports about fucking girls without here on the forum.
My understanding that BJ is normally bareback, sometimes with CIM.
How about other services. What percentage of the girls would you say are available for bareback sex?
Off course assuming you are clean and look healthy.
So many debates and so many questions in my PMs and the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.You rock man! Easily the best post in regards to BKK in recent memory.
A Senior's Experience in BKKGreat stuff Bkkdog, I for one am grateful for the time you took to put this out there.
Ho Hum. Next.Why don't you move along to another website that you might understand better and makes you happier?
Hi,
I am planning my first ever trip to LOS.
I have some experience meEting working girls in Europe. Both escorts and girls at massage parlours.
Not using a condom have never even been discussed.
I have read many reports about fucking girls without here on the forum.
My understanding that BJ is normally bareback, sometimes with CIM.
How about other services. What percentage of the girls would you say are available for bareback sex?
Off course assuming you are clean and look healthy.Speaking as a man who can truthfully tell a Thai working girl in a bar or on the street that he has had a vasectomy so will not make her pregnant and has a recent negative HIV test document (from Thai Red Cross) if she wants to see it, I'd say my percentage of getting a girl to agree to BBFS+CIP (I guess we are now required to stipulate BBFS+CIP for clarification? Ok. It used to be just saying BBFS was enough) runs about 30-35%. With dating site girls or regular girls working in malls and restaurants around town it is higher, maybe more like 75%.
I don't always mention either of those factors unless it feels like it might help get a Yes from the girl. For example, last night I took a dancer with one of the top three best bodies in the place from Twisters BKK go-go bar after a single LD. In the bar she agreed to BBFS (ok, ok, BBFS+CIP! LOL) with me within a few minutes and after zero discussion about possible pregnancy or medical test documents. 1000 baht barfine and 2000 to the girl.
However, I can't say what my overall rate of success would be if I could not truthfully lay claim to having had a vasectomy and a recent negative HIV medical test result. Maybe no different. On the other hand, I would not feel comfortable going into the P4P or dating world expecting to get BBFS+CIP without both conditions in place.
And, bear in mind, I am talking about my rate of success when asking for it in the bar or on the street, not in one of those "just go with the flow and, oh look, we're doing BBFS+CIP" scenarios after we are already in the room. For my own reasons, I cannot rely on that scenario to work all that great for me. If the answer is No at that point, there will be no finish at all for little ET unless I have also cleared it with the girl that she is happy to do a BBBJ+CIM for me.
But here's the thing; you and I are surely totally different in terms of how we present ourselves, how we look, age, fitness, level of apparent trustworthiness, everything. Your rate of success might blow mine out of the water or you might not get a Thai working girl to agree to BBFS+CIP in 100 tries. Nobody knows.
As it is with almost every sales pitch, and your meeting/chatting/negotiation with a working girl IS a sales pitch, you will learn and get better at getting positive results by asking girls for it too soon and too often. And if you are sensitive to where you went wrong and where you got it right, your rate of success will improve over time.
Saigon is a hard nut to crack. I've only been to Bennys and a place (now closed but had the hottest asian girl blow me) down the street for walk in BBBJ several years ago. The Bennys girl rimmed and and did CIM and asked if I wanted to go again for USD $16.
As a foreigner I got approached a few times by girls on motorbikes who would ask me if I wanted to go with them which I did once so this may be a way into the scene. Just get her phone number. On my next visit I happened to go past the hotel she took me and there was this ultra slutty girl outside.
Its not a place where you can go and expect to get laid easily but it has great potential. In a way this is great because the casual two week millionaire will find it hard crack and look for easier locations so it favours dedicated mongers. Viet girls are more beautiful then TGs.Sounds like there is still a remnant of the "girl on a motorbike" bit in the HCMC/Saigon P4P scene even after 20 years, as I suggested could be so in my previous post on the subject. But I have not yet heard about a current "taxi dance hall" subterfuge part, though. This probably has something to do with the hard nut to crack or seemingly underground aspect of the scene there; some of the girls are still not comfortable congregating at a hooker stroll or standing in one place in public for very long. Wise Viet-curious punters interested in knowing how and why this is so and has been so for at least a couple of decades will take note. Dumbasses whose comprehension skills are severely limited will miss it, of course.
Crocodilexp
11-24-18, 06:48
probably has something to do with the hard nut to crack or seemingly underground aspect of the scene there;In Vietnam, the scene isn't really underground, it's just a hassle.
Despite prostitution being illegal, venues and girls are not that hard to find. The problem is above all the attitude. In Vietnam, both the girls and the hanger-ONS always try to angle for more money for less (or preferably no) service. In addition, if they can get away with not delivering, they will. This is true even for trivial things, for example you can't just buy a bus / train ticket from an agent and assume it'll be valid, must buy from the bus company itself. In the sex industry, there's more scope for ambiguity. You cannot simply walk into a place, plop down the amount that's the known going rate, sit back and enjoy. Not even if you've been at the place several times.
In most Hot Toc (hair-stylist BJ) places in Saigon, typically they'll drive a hard bargain at the entrance, then the girl will bargain some more when she starts, try to do a HJ instead of a BJ as much as possible, and take off the bra only when you make her. They also delight in senseless restrictions such as not letting you take off your pants completely, but rather keep them around your ankles. It's a constant struggle, which might be OK for certain type of customer, but is a huge turnoff for me. Sure, there are exceptions, but on average, it's just not worth it.
Oddly, Vietnamese girls outside of Vietnam seem to provide much better service on average.
Blanquiceleste
11-24-18, 07:28
Why don't you move along to another website that you might understand better and makes you happier?Ouch! Did I hurt this "senior" member's feelings? Or is this the all too familiar "come-out-swinging-big-when-cornered" response?
Either ways, I don't care. And I don't think this forum needs a mother telling us what to do.
I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
Excellent post, Dog. Just what the site needs every now and then to keep up to date and share info.
Should be a Report of Distinction.
Ouch! Did I hurt this "senior" member's feelings? Or is this the all too familiar "come-out-swinging-big-when-cornered" response?
Either ways, I don't care. And I don't think this forum needs a mother telling us what to do.This site is probably not the best place for you to work out your "mother" issues. In my case, I only asked you a question. I didn't order you to stop doing whatever it is you've been doing in the bathroom for so long and go clean your room.
Member #4591
11-24-18, 11:24
Alright guys. Enough of this nonsense. Back to business.
Getting what you want from a Thai working girl can be frustrating at times. With all the horror stories on the forum such as runners, starfishes, no BBFS, no BBBJ, no CIM, no GFE, no PSE, no photos, no video, and mechanical experiences, we mongers need to be constantly be on our toes to make sure we get what we want. In this post, I will outline some sure fire ways that should get you what you want most of the time. Of course, there will be some loss causes. With these ladies, no matter what you do, how much you pay, what you say, or how you act, she will still deliver a bad experience.
Number 1, look nice. Out with the flip flops, tank tops, running shoes, old clothes, scuffed up shoes, unkept hair, bad hygiene, bad breath, and bad odors. Use deodorant, put on cologne, and buy some decent clothes. A well dressed and well groomed man garners respect from a Thai girl. If you look healthy and successful, your chances of getting what you want will increase 10 fold. The girls will be more comfortable and less inhibited with a man like this, you will get that BBFS / CIP encounter you are hoping for. The ladies will want to spend time with a man like this. She will let you go BB, cum in her pussy, fuck her ass, give you multiple pops and so on.
Number 2, be generous. You can be generous with the ladies without being a push over. Buy lady drinks for her and a select few of her friends. Tip small amounts but do it consistently. This goes a long way. Face is very important in Thai culture. These girls become proud if they bring a good customer into the bar or massage shop. If your actions give the lady good face in front of their peers, they will reward you in the bedroom. Don't be the Keneow (stingy) customer. In the massage shop, give a big tip once and while. You will be talked about amongst the ladies. The next time you go in, your chosen lady will most likely know who you are and go the extra mile to make you happy. I love the girls who when you ask how much, they say up to you. Does anyone know why they say that? It is because you have done all the right things up to that point and they feel comfortable and secure with you to go with the flow. These girls will never ask you how much you will pay and are happy receiving a fair amount the next morning or after your session. Once, during a night of partying at Sharks in Soi Cowboy, I spent 800 Baht on 4 large pizzas for the staff and girls in the bar. Needless to say, I had a complete and 100% genuine GFE from my lady that night. Pure BBFS, CIP, CIM, and multiple pops. No mention of a condom whatsoever. On another occasion I took the girl LT from a Go Go bar to Above Eleven roof top bar. I only spent 1,500 baht on a few cocktails. Back in my room, she commented on how I was such a gentlemen and took care of her very well. Needless to say, she fucked my brains out in the room BB and let me cum in her pussy. I have a really hot 22 year old Vietnamese girl I see often. I posted about her already on ISG in the foreign working girls thread. She has to be one of the hottest Asian girls I have ever been with. More about her later but my generosity and politeness paid off in the end.
Number 3, don't get hung up on the small details and don't talk too much. Thai girls hate men who talk too much and include many details in the interaction. Go with the flow. More often than not, if you go with the flow, the condom, number of pops, BBBJ, CIM and so on will become a non- issue because the girl will genuinely be happy to spend time with you and make you happy. She will get lost in the heat of the moment and give you that true GFE or PSE session you are looking for.
Number 3, be polite. Politeness goes a long way with the ladies. Learn some of the language. Ask about their families. Open doors for them. Escort them to the toilet if you take them to the bar after you bar fine them. You will be amazed what you will get from them in the bedroom. I can just hear the skeptics now. " She is a hooker, why would you care about how she feels and what she thinks?" This is the wrong attitude to have. Most working girls do this part time and are normal girls during the day. They are real people with real feelings. If you care only about how much the encounter will cost you, then you will fail. However, if you want to get what you want and that is really important to you, follow these guidelines. Especially if you are on holidays. You want to have the best dam time you can. This will ensure your success. I often see a Vietnamese working girl here in BKK. I sometimes take her for dinner before our session. We go to a nice restaurant. I listen to her problems and give her advice. Then I take her back to my room and fuck her brains out BB and CIP. She has to be the one of the hottest 22 year old Asian girls I have been with hands down. Not an ounce of fat on her, natural see cups, and an ass to die for. She charges me 3000 Baht where others ay 5-6 K. She just told me yesterday that I know her better than she knows herself. I fucking love Asia. You can see my original post about her after our first session in the foreign working girls thread. It just got better and better every time we were together. The BBFS started in our 3rd session together.
Number four. Get them tipsy. This might seem a little dodgy and maybe you are thinking along the lines of this is taking advantage of a drunk girl. That's not the case at all. You are not making them so drunk where they lose consciousness and you fuck then BB and CIP. That's [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and I don't condone that at all. Just get them tipsy enough where they lose their shyness and open up enough so they feel more comfortable with you.
Finally, brush up on your dady and foreplay skills. If you give the lady excellent DATY and make her cum, in most cases, she will want to return the favor. This has been the difference between me getting BBFS or not on many occasions. For example, as the session begins, the lady places the condom beside you and her on the bed. Now the foreplay starts. You go in for DATY, after you make her cum several times, she is so caught up in the moment, she will allow you to fuck her BB and or give you that BBBJ with CIM. This works for me 80% of the time.
Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.
BKK Dog.
Franciscass
11-24-18, 12:44
Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.Dog are you by any chance in the process of writing a how to do monger in Thailand book with some selected previews available on ISG. While a tad smug in its tone and personally of little value to me having developed my own system over the past 20 years developed my own system I have to admit it well written and an insightful look into its subject matter.
Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.
BKK Dog.Excellent post. Cudos to you Sir Dog. This is exactly my experience also after 10 years of mongering in Bangkok. Your advise might not get down well with all punters, but unless you are extremely unattractive physically, these advice will get you a long way.
Blanquiceleste
11-24-18, 13:45
In my case, I only asked you a question.LOL. This quibbling over semantics may impress a toothless hooker willing to give a BBBJ + CIM (to completion) behind a dumpster in Sanam Luang.
Why don't you move along to another website that you might understand better and makes you happier?Does anyone else think of this statement as a harmless question?
This site is probably not the best place for you to work out your "mother" issues. So much for asking questions only. What is this now? Oh, I know. Opinion. Haha.
I tried Pin recently, was slim and friendly, but her services were pretty average. Seemed to be going through motions.I repeated Pin, the freelancer from Soi 4, the service was good this time. I joked around with her, which made the session better. The kissing was slow and better than the last time. Then I got a slow BJ followed by sex in in multiple positions. Ended it with BBBJ and CIM. Pin was very enthusiastic, even though the session was long. I would recommend her now.
Kalle Kula
11-24-18, 18:43
Speaking as a man who can truthfully tell a Thai working girl in a bar or on the street that he has had a vasectomy so will not make her pregnant and has a recent negative HIV test document (from Thai Red Cross) if she wants to see it, I'd say my percentage of getting a girl to agree to BBFS+CIP (I guess we are now required to stipulate BBFS+CIP for clarification? Ok. It used to be just saying BBFS was enough) runs about 30-35%. With dating site girls or regular girls working in malls and restaurants around town it is higher, maybe more like 75%.
I don't always mention either of those factors unless it feels like it might help get a Yes from the girl. For example, last night I took a dancer with one of the top three best bodies in the place from Twisters BKK go-go bar after a single LD. In the bar she agreed to BBFS (ok, ok, BBFS+CIP! LOL) with me within a few minutes and after zero discussion about possible pregnancy or medical test documents. 1000 baht barfine and 2000 to the girl..Thank you.
If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?
Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?
Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?
How to get what you want from a working girl in BKK
A Senior's Experience in BKKThanks so much for your 2 recent mega posts.
I've had a couple of previous solo visits to BKK, so I worked out some of this stuff, but it's invaluable to have such a good refresher, and update on the new stuff like Thai Friendly.
Anyway, I will be in BKK for 4 days from next Thursday 29 Nov, putting some of it into practice I hope.
Again, thanks.
Rob.
Member #4591
11-25-18, 02:27
Dog are you by any chance in the process of writing a how to do monger in Thailand book with some selected previews available on ISG. While a tad smug in its tone and personally of little value to me having developed my own system over the past 20 years developed my own system I have to admit it well written and an insightful look into its subject matter.LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.
Steve 9696
11-25-18, 02:47
LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.It is true people don't like to RTTF but this is only because I have to sift through so much crap to find the nuggets. If it was just summarized it would be so much easier (as you have done). However the ironic thing is if each location was concisely summarized you wouldn't really need the forum. It's a conundrum!
But anyhow your summary of Bangkok is TRULY helpful. I've only done the Soi cowboy gogos and my friend swears by Poseidon but now I see there is so much more. I think I will try the nightclubs next time. In Brazil they have nightclubs with onsite rooms (Boates) and I really liked that format.
The other thing I appreciate is your thoughts on being presentable and being a gentleman. I, like you, am completely convinced this affects service level, no matter what others say. I also believe we owe it to the girls. Theirs is one tough job. We should make it as pleasant as humanly possible for them IMO. At least that is how I approach it and hope there is a small faction that feel likewise.
Thank you.
If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?
Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?
Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?Vaginal intercourse with condom is the norm in Thailand's P4P scene. Anal sex, too, of course, for those girls who allow it. It does happen on occasion that neither of you bringing a condom, or claiming not to have brought one, or neither of you mentioning it will result in the girl going ahead with BBFS+CIP anyway. Bkkdog's latest couple of overviews do a good job of covering many of the How and Why factors that can help make that happen. However, do not be surprised if doing everything "right" according to his or anyone else's recommendations on this subject still results in a girl adamantly refusing to go forward with bareback intercourse even at the point where she has spread her legs and you are poised to enter her vagina. It has certainly happened to me often enough that I rarely engage in that kind of "go with the flow and see what happens" method anymore.
More often than not these days I ask beforehand in the bar or wherever I have met the girl. The "go with the flow and see what happens" method is fine for guys for whom going BB is great but having to wear a condom is still pretty good. I am not one of those guys. For me, going BB is great but having to wear a condom means I will not be having intercourse and finishing at all. Period. Therefore, except for the very rare instances where I am so smitten by a girl that I am willing to risk paying whatever the going rate is just to wind up eating her pussy and get no satisfaction for myself tonight, I will not be engaging in a "go with the flow and see what happens" method.
Personally, I have had MUCH better success getting BBFS+CIP from go-go bargirls than with any massage shop girl in any shop at anytime, including the highly praised "PSE" shop, Tulip. Then again, I hate massage shops because I find the experience and the girls to be too mechanical and utterly lacking in sensuality and eroticism. Therefore, I very, very rarely bother wasting my time, emotion and money going to them or taking girls who work in them out on a barfine. Again, Bkkdog discusses his success rate in getting both BBFS and BBFS+CIP at those kinds of shop with a special mention of Tulip.
Getting a vasectomy was one of the best decisions of my life. I have experienced zero negative side effects from it and it has helped me to better enjoy thousands upon thousands of bareback sexual encounters without worry that I or someone else will have to pay for it with an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy.
I am not into any butt-play other than sometimes going doggie with a girl so I can enjoy the sight of her fine butt while fucking her. Oh, and squeezing and kissing her butt if so inspired. I tried anal with a girlfriend a couple of times many years ago and just wasn't all that impressed. Certainly not enough to justify the extra hassle. So the issue of anal sex, covered or BB, has never come up for me with a working girl anywhere.
Member #4591
11-25-18, 05:15
Thank you.
If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?
Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?
Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?So how do you get BBFS then? How to get what you want? Check out my post.
LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.I found the easy solution was to switch off PMs, in general. 555.
Alright guys. Enough of this nonsense. Back to business.
Getting what you want from a Thai working girl can be frustrating at times. With all the horror stories on the forum such as runners, starfishes, no BBFS, no BBBJ, no CIM, no GFE, no PSE, no photos, no video, and mechanical experiences, we mongers need to be constantly be on our toes to make sure we get what we want. In this post, I will outline some sure fire ways that should get you what you want most of the time. Of course, there will be some loss causes. With these ladies, no matter what you do, how much you pay, what you say, or how you act, she will still deliver a bad experience.
BKK Dog.Everyone wanting better service from girls should follow these important tips.
Another one: there is a saying - "treat a lady like a working girl, and a working girl like a lady. ".
I always try to treat the P4 P.S. Girls I have had nicely. If they gal is completely jaded, then nothing will work for them. I sense that and move on to ones who will appreciate being treated nicely, and usually get well rewarded for my efforts.
Have not been active for over 10 years until this just completed trip to Thailand. Will post trip reports.
It has been 10 years since I last mongered and posted here. My last mongering trip was to Thailand in 2008, but I never posted the report. I got into a relationship. That has now ended. So I took a trip back to Thailand. Brief summary of my Bangkok experience in 2008, and my report from my just completed recent trip.
Back in 2008, I spent time in Phuket, on the beach by day and banging gogo girls at night, then traveled around Thailand a bit, and ended up in Bangkok, Arrived there in the afternoon, and then left on a midnight flight the following evening. Checked into a hotel near Soi Cowboy, and went down there that evening. Girls in front of bars trying to drag customers in. One place had several attractive girls in bikinis in front, as well as one girl in a short cocktail type dress standing with them. She was the prettiest of all of them. I started talking to her, as she spoke the best English, about how the club worked. Just playing dumb. She explained to me about taking a girl into the bar, having drinks with them, and if you like the girl, you could go home with her. I said "Okay, but what about you, would you like to have a drink with me?" She was a little surprised, but agreed. We had a couple of drinks and a very nice conversation. I then asked if she wanted go back to my room with me. I bar fined her. Paid the house, never gave her any money. No discussion of short time or long time, and don't remember what I paid. But since I HAD RTFF, it was not a lot that I paid. She was 23, had a Thai mother and Chinese father, had a 2 yr old son, was about 1.60 m (5'3") with thin legs, a narrow waist and very small breasts (which she was very shy about). She knew I had just arrived in Bangkok, and knew that I wanted to go see the sights the following day before leaving that night. We get back to my room, and she gets in the shower and then shouts, "won't you join me?". So I strip down and shower with her. We rub and massage all over each other in the shower. I dry off and wait for her on the bed. She finishes her shower and come out wrapped up in a towel, saying she is embarrassed about her small breasts, as western men like large breasts. Never mind that I had just been massaging and sucking her nipples in the shower 5 minutes earlier. I tell her she has a beautiful body and was the prettiest girl in the club. She proceeds to DFK me like crazy. Over next 2 hours, lots of DATY, BBBJ, multiple positions (w / condom), 2 pops for me and she cums a couple of times from my DATY efforts. Complete GFE. Next morning, another round of GFE action. We then shower together and have breakfast at the hotel restaurant. During breakfast, she says that she can show me Bangkok's tourist sites if I want. "Sure." I arrange for a late hotel check out and we then take skytrain to Saphan Taksin boat pier and take the Chao boats up to the palace and Wat Pho. Spend the day together seeing the sights. It was really cute watching her pray at the various buddhist shrines. Had street thai food for lunch and tried lots of different snacks that she suggested. Some were really good, others quite nasty. (Since she is Thai, she had free admission to all of the sights, while I had to pay). We retrace our way back, and at the Siam skytrain station she says that she will be taking the train in the other direction to go home. We say goodbye, I head back to the hotel, get cleaned up, have dinner and then head to the airport. Don't remember her name.
Fast Forward to 2018. After mongering in Phuket (will post a report in that thread) and traveling around Thailand and Laos for a bit, I arrive in Bangkok. Have learned some basic Thai words and phrases, as well as a few Lao words while I was sight seeing there. Stayed in a deluxe room at a nice hotel right near Soi Cowboy. Pullman.
NIGHT 1: Was looking to fuck a shy young spinner, and decided to check out Baccara. Wanted to see the Japanese type thing they have going there, with the glass floor and school girl uniforms. Get there after 10 and pay 180B for a beer out front. Go in and see that I should have gotten there a little earlier. Most of the hot girls already taken. Watch the topless dancing on the 2nd floor and see one with perfectly shaped, reasonable sized breasts. Not really moving very well on the dance floor and kind of looking down too much. About 1.55 m (5'1") and slender with cute round thai face. Have some drinks and try to decide if I can unleash her sexually energy with some DFK and DATY, or if she will total close up on me and be a terrible lay. Cannot make up my mind, so I decide to leave and try another bar. Went into Lighthouse. While there were some good looking girls there, they were a lot more hard core looking then what I wanted at that point, so I left after one beer and tried a 3rd bar. Forgot which one, but the talent level was pretty low there, and decided to head back to Baccara. It was about midnight then and I could just walk in, no purchase of a drink outside required. The same Baccara girl as before was still there, slowing dancing topless. I have another beer, and when she looks around, I catch her eye and wave her over. She is shocked. She grabs her shirt, puts it on and comes up to me asking, "Me? You want to talk to me?" I say "Yes, I want to buy you a drink and talk to you." She has a look of huge relief, says thank you over and over, as no one has talked to her or bought her a drink all night. We have a good conversation. She is 21 and in the university. Has started back up at Baccara a about 2 weeks ago because she needs the money. Had worked there for a few weeks the year before to pay for school. Okay, this looks promising. She asked me my age, and I lie to her that I am 42 (no, am older than that). She was not too pleased by that answer, and liked it even less when I joked later on that she was half my (fake) age. It was getting late, so I talked to her about bar fine. Drinks and bar fine total came to about 1500B (don't remember the exact breakdown, but think bar fine was 600-800 B). She wanted 3,000B for 1 hour ST or 6,000B for LT - of only 4 hours!! Never heard of LT of only 4 hours, plus was not willing to pay so much without knowing if I was going to get GFE or a dud. Given our chemistry, was hopeful for GFE, but was starting to get a little concerned.
We get back to room and she wants me to take a shower first. I had a lot of money in my pants pockets, so I carefully hide it in the bathroom, while in the shower. I roll it up and hide the money in my clothes as I leave the shower. She then showers, comes out, gives me a kiss on the lips and lays down on the bed. Her breasts were perfect and she knew it. Always showing them off. I try to DFK her and it is a no go. She does not want to kiss after that either. Fuck. She asks about a condom for a BJ, but I instead enjoy her breasts and then move to some DATY. She is a bit surprised by the DATY, starts to get a little turned on, and then demands that I stop. Puts her hand over her pussy, claiming she does not like DATY. Great. This experience is going to suck. I decided to just fuck her really hard. I fuck her covered in several positions. Best was her on top, looking at her beautiful breasts. During all of this, I keep trying to DFK or DATY her and she refuses. Eventually, I cum with her on top of me, fondling her perfect breasts. We chat for a bit afterwards, and I apologize for upsetting her about the DFK or the DATY. She gives me some story about how she could not get comfortable with just starting up again at Baccara, that ST was too short for her to relax, LT is better, etc. I had no interest in pouring any more money down this drain, so I thanked her for her time and saw her out the door. Bangkok action in 2018 appears to have significantly deteriorated, I think.
The next day, I go sightseeing downtown, come back to the hotel and have a swim in the pool, have dinner and then head out at about 9:30 pm to Soi Cowboy.
NIGHT 2: I wanted to visit the following bars that I had not tried the night before. Cowboy 2; Dollhouse; and Shark. Slowly walked down Soi Cowboy looking at the girls out front, looking for hot young spinners. Saw several possible candidate girls in front of one of these bars. Unfortunately, I don't remember which one it was, but decided to go in. Believe it was either Cowboy 2 or Dollhouse, but not sure which one. Waitress shows me a seat, overlooking the stage, gets me a beer and then starts asking about me. I lie and say I just got to Bangkok that afternoon, and will be there for three nights. She starts commenting on the girls - about how this one as good breasts, that one is very active in bed, do I want a skinny girl or a girl with big tits, etc. I tell her I just want to chill out and drink a beer, but when ready I will ask for her help. After a bit, including chatting some more with the waitress, several great looking girls come in and get up to dance on the far side of the stage. Waitress sees my eyes light up and asks which one do I want. I tell her I want to go walk around and look at them better. Two of them are amazing. One was cute and slightly shy on stage, other was gorgeous and very sexy on stage. I go sit back down and waitress asks who I like. I mention the two numbers that I was interested in, and she says, go with first one - the cute slightly shy one. Her name was "Pap" - 19 and had just arrived there three days ago from Issan (area of northern thailand up near Laos). Waitress says to me that I am nice, and if I treat Pap nicely, she would probably fall in love with me. Okay, waitress you have sold me on Pap. Waitress brings Pap over and I buy lady drinks for Pap and the waitress. Pap has the slenderest legs and arms. Tiny little butt and small perky tits. About 1. 52 m (5') maybe 40 kg (90 lbs) at the most, but probably less, as I later picked her up and easily carried her over my shoulder. She is not model beautiful, but instead has a super cute teenage face. She looks like she should be a high school cheerleader. I talk to Pap, mentioning the lao words I know, and she loves it. Her first language is Lao, since she is from northern Issan part of Thailand. After finishing her Lady drink, she gets up and goes to dance on a small stage on the far side of the bar. It was apparently her turn to dance there. Waitress, who saw the confused look on my face, asks what is wrong. I mention that I was hoping to bar fine Pap, but she just left to go dance. Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for 1,0000B. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at. I buy the waitress another lady drink, get two lady drinks for Pap, and she proceeds to dance extra sexy just for me. After a bit, I say okay, let's go. I give her the 1000B and she goes and changes. Waitress gives me a bill for 1250B on the drinks. I give her 1500B and she tries to have me let her keep the change. I play dumb as to what she is trying to do, and say bill is 1250B and I gave her 1500B and need my change. Waitress returns my change, I give the waitress 50B and she is very happy and gives me a kiss. She says "Good lover for Pap. You go with Pap every night" before walking away. Wow!
Pap comes back, dressed in street clothes. A tiny pair of shorts and a short little shirt. Looking like one of the cutest teens I have ever seen. All while I am thinking that my cock will be in her tight wet little pussy in a few minutes. We walk to my nearby hotel and she is being silly the whole way. Singing "Thank you, see you again tomorrow" over and over again on the way to the hotel, laughing the whole time. She is amazed by the fancy hotel lobby. We get in the elevator and take it up to my upper level room. Exiting the elevator, you can look down the many floors to the lobby and she is in awe. I say, let's go to my room, and she starts playing a silly game of going right when I point left, etc. laughing and having fun. I join in the silliness for a bit, and then pick her up, put her over my shoulder and carry her all the way to my room door. She is laughing the whole way. As I carry her, I am amazed at just how light and slender she is, as well as how firm every part of her body is. Enter the deluxe room and she is blown away by it. All of this supports that she is brand new in town. She does a tour of the entire place, while I go sit on the bed. She sees the minifridge, opens it and I ask if she wants a beer. Her eyes beam. She ends up drinking about 2/3 of a can of Singha. Using the free guest toothbrush, I suggest we brush our teeth. We do that, and then I go sit back to the bed, next to the 2 towels. She comes over takes off her top (no bra) pulls off my shirt, takes off her short, short shorts, and I see that she had no underwear on and a beautiful small clean shaven pussy. She points at my pants, and I quickly undress. She immediately grabs my hard cock with one hand, and gives me a deep, deep French kiss. Pushes me back down on top the bed, and lays on top of me French kissing me. My hands feel up her tiny hard body. With one hand I can almost grab her entire tiny butt. I roll her over so she is on the bed, start sucking her tits and then go for some DATY. She quickly cums very hard, lots of wet juice from her small little pussy. I put a condom on, and use a little lube, which she is curious about. I put some on her fingers and she rolls them around, checking out the lube. I then fuck her in missionary, doggie and her on top for a while. She cums again while on top and is a little tired I could see. I stop fucking her, and start cuddling and kissing her. But I lose most of my erection. When she tries to rub now softer cock, I take off the condom so she could give my a HJ. A little HJ, combined with some DFK, gets me rock hard again. I DATY her again, with one finger inside in her small wet pussy. She cums again going "fuck, fuck, fuck. " I immediately enter her (no condom) and we fuck like crazy. In missionary, I put her legs up on my shoulders, grab her tiny waist and pound her. Also lean way forward and DFK while fucking her. Almost want to cum but switch to doggy and fuck her hard. She climaxes with her pussy just pulsing like I have not experienced in a long, long time. I pull out and shoot a huge load on her back. (I almost cum in her pussy, and probably should have, but all while fucking her I was thinking, I am not 100% she would be proper effective birth control just yet, so I am not going to risk a CIP shot). I wipe up all of the cum off her back with one of the towels, which we had not used as neither of us had taken a shower yet. First time I have ever had a thai bar girl that did not shower before hand. But she was squeeky clean anyway.
She then lay face down on the bed and I started to massage her back. She wanted me to massage the back of her neck and I did so. After a few minutes, I was thirsty and grabbed some water and asked if she wanted some water. She wanted some more of her beer which I handed to her. I sat on the end of the bed and had a drink. She got up, took a sip of the beer and then sat on my lap, wanting me to further massage the back of her neck. I did so, then started massaging her perfect little breasts. I slid my hand down and slipped one finger into her wet pussy and fingered her. She got very wet, turned around, stuck her tongue down my throat, pushed me back down on to the bed, got on top of me and slid my bare cock into her tight pussy. She road me bareback on top for a while, and I almost shot a huge load deep into her. I was able to have her stop riding me. Moved to missionary, put her legs on my shoulders, grabbed her slender waist and pounded her hard. Pulled out just before cumming, and shot a huge load all over her stomach and chest. I then collapsed. She looked at all the cum and started spreading it around her. She says my name, says "good" and then goes and takes a shower. She comes back dressed in her tiny little shorts and shirt, looking just like a young highschool cheerleader again.
I say, hey I will walk you out of the hotel, thinking she would get lost on the way. I quickly get dressed and we leave arm in arm. She has no idea where to go, so I lead her to the elevator, down to the lobby, and out the front door. The whole time she is rubbing my arm, kissing my hand and reaching up and kissing my cheek. We turn down the street back towards Soi cowboy, and I notice 3 thai guys behind us who had been coming down the street. One of them says something. Pap immediately stops, lets go of my hand and then walks off. I look back at the 3 thai guys, but they turn around and quickly walk off in the opposite direction. Not sure what they said. I watch Pap walk away, thinking that could just be a gorgeous young girl that I fantasize about as I pass her on the street. But, instead I just had 2 plus hours of great bareback sex with her. Pap never looks bad.
I go back to my hotel, take a shower, and have a cold beer. Quickly fall asleep. Next morning, I wake up and I am rock hard. I think about Pap and, while that was not the absolute best sex I have ever had, I do not think I will be able to top that sex from this point forward: a super cute fresh young thing with 2 pops of super GFE bareback sex. I would love to try and top this experience, but I am being realistic here. I had it all for 2300B total, including all of the drinks and bar fine. With that I say "fuck it", and jerk off, thinking about Pap and her hot wet pussy. I quickly shoot another huge load just from masturbating about her, and then go take a shower. I head down for a huge buffet breakfast, and get a late hotel check out. Later on, I head to the airport and the flight home all while thinking, maybe I should postpone my flight one day, stay one more night in Bangkok and do a repeat performance with Pap. Maybe I should even cum in her pussy this time, rather than all over her. But, I decide against it. A couple hours into my flight I think back to how 24 hours ago, I was living out a teenage cheerleader sex fantasy with her. And now someone else will get to experience her. "Thank you but sorry I did not see you again tomorrow".
Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.
Flyboy 2000
11-25-18, 11:41
Passed through BKK last weekend on my way back from the UK, upgraded from business class to Thai's A380 first class and on arrival at BKK was allowed to use the first class lounge. Now as a lounge itself this is not super impressive but it does have a very nice spa with free one hour massage for first class passengers so I figured I would give it a try, The spa is pretty much kitted out like a proper Thai massage place, sizeable rooms with their own shower, lots of wood panelling etc.
Showered and changed into a pair of those little flimsy shorts common in most Thai massage places. Started with feet washed in warm water with oil, then hoped onto the table for the one hour Touch OF Silk oil massage. And it was an excellent massage, just as you'd expect, if there was the chance to extend for even a bit of money I'd have taken it up!
Anyway, the masseuse was early 20's and very easy on the eye, she was careful when working around my upper thighs and arse, going close enough as legitimacy would allow. Came time for me to turn over and she draped the towel over my pants although it was clear the boy bits had woken up a bit from her previous ministrations. As she worked my upper legs towards the inside of the thighs she was once again just safely on the borderline between legitimacy and intimacy, as so many massages can frustratingly be, although Flyboy Jnr was well awake by now. Then she shifted to my abs, so I decided to gently reach up to the towel and edge it down, along with the top of the flimsy shorts, allowing Flyboy Jnr to peek out. Without breaking her pace she took the hint, slid her well-oiled hand down there while I pushed the shorts clear and she delivered an expect handjob, even making a small appreciative "Mmmmm" sound when I came in spurts. She cleaned me up, washed her hands, finished off with a brief head neck and shoulders massage. After that, I showered, changed back into my travel clothes, fished out a £20 note (smallest I had, but wanted to show appreciation of her going the extra mile) and handed that to her with a respectful wai. She was (naturally) very happy for the tip!
I had it all for 2300B total, including all of the drinks and bar fine. With that I say "fuck it", and jerk off, thinking about Pap and her hot wet pussy. I quickly shoot another huge load just from masturbating about her, and then go take a shower. I head down for a huge buffet breakfast, and get a late hotel check out. Later on, I head to the airport and the flight home all while thinking, maybe I should postpone my flight one day, stay one more night in Bangkok and do a repeat performance with Pap. Maybe I should even cum in her pussy this time, rather than all over her. But, I decide against it. A couple hours into my flight I think back to how 24 hours ago, I was living out a teenage cheerleader sex fantasy with her. And now someone else will get to experience her. "Thank you but sorry I did not see you again tomorrow".
Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.This sounds like a total fantas and no way I believe it. Even if the girl was just off the farm, no way the mamasan and / or waitress go for that. I don't think the price would have worked for even 2008. Also Cowboy 2 is one of the "Arab owned bars" where even barfining a girl is a pain in the ass and very costly.
Greetings Fkyboy.
This is some very informative and extremely useful information. I always wondered if there was a happy ending in one one of those spas. It's like one for the road. I am sure to now try this out when I am there next. I arrive in Feb. 2019 and will give it a shot.
BTW, do they offer for business class passengers as well and if they have to pay what are the rates?
Have fun.
G.
Passed through BKK last weekend on my way back from the UK, upgraded from business class to Thai's A380 first class and on arrival at BKK was allowed to use the first class lounge. Now as a lounge itself this is not super impressive but it does have a very nice spa with free one hour massage for first class passengers so I figured I would give it a try, The spa is pretty much kitted out like a proper Thai massage place, sizeable rooms with their own shower, lots of wood panelling etc.
Showered and changed into a pair of those little flimsy shorts common in most Thai massage places. Started with feet washed in warm water with oil, then hoped onto the table for the one hour Touch OF Silk oil massage. And it was an excellent massage, just as you'd expect, if there was the chance to extend for even a bit of money I'd have taken it up!
Anyway, the masseuse was early 20's and very easy on the eye, she was careful when working around my upper thighs and arse, going close enough as legitimacy would allow. Came time for me to turn over and she draped the towel over my pants although it was clear the boy bits had woken up a bit from her previous ministrations. As she worked my upper legs towards the inside of the thighs she was once again just safely on the borderline between legitimacy and intimacy, as so many massages can frustratingly be, although Flyboy Jnr was well awake by now. Then she shifted to my abs, so I decided to gently reach up to the towel and edge it down, along with the top of the flimsy shorts, allowing Flyboy Jnr to peek out. Without breaking her pace she took the hint, slid her well-oiled hand down there while I pushed the shorts clear and she delivered an expect handjob, even making a small appreciative "Mmmmm" sound when I came in spurts. She cleaned me up, washed her hands, finished off with a brief head neck and shoulders massage. After that, I showered, changed back into my travel clothes, fished out a 20 note (smallest I had, but wanted to show appreciation of her going the extra mile) and handed that to her with a respectful wai. She was (naturally) very happy for the tip!
Franciscass
11-26-18, 06:22
LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.Well if you ever decide to it just well become the definitive handbook on the subject. A joint effort with S. On how to spot fake noses and ask for a CIM or can I stick it in your ass in Thai with precise pronunciation and we could have an international best seller on our hands. Appreciate the effort you put in.
She gives me some story about how she could not get comfortable with just starting up again at Baccara, that ST was too short for her to relax, LT is better, etc.
I had it all for 2300B total, including all of the drinks and bar fine. With that I say "fuck it", and jerk off, thinking about Pap and her hot wet pussy. I quickly shoot another huge load just from masturbating about her, and then go take a shower. I head down for a huge buffet breakfast, and get a late hotel check out. Later on, I head to the airport and the flight home all while thinking, maybe I should postpone my flight one day, stay one more night in Bangkok and do a repeat performance with Pap. Maybe I should even cum in her pussy this time, rather than all over her. But, I decide against it. A couple hours into my flight I think back to how 24 hours ago, I was living out a teenage cheerleader sex fantasy with her. And now someone else will get to experience her. "Thank you but sorry I did not see you again tomorrow".
Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.To be honest the Bacarra girl's story is bullshit. It does not take more than 30 minutes for a girl to enjoy a good DATY and cum if she feels like it. Would maybe make sense if the girl expected to fuck several more ties that night.
Your bill for 1250 does not seem to be enough to cover the BF and the drinks, unless you are some bargain basement bar. Therefore I have to assume the other 1000 paid upfront was a Barfine? If not how do you explain it? 700 is minimum barfine? Just does not seem to add up to be 100% truth. I suppose 3 lady drinks could be just 450 in some super cheap bars (I don't know which ones, and your drink 100 baht)?
Gogo girls don't go for 1K anymore. Street walkers for quick 30 min fuck, yes. Did I misunderstand and this was the year 2008? "If it just too good to be true, .....". I never heard of anyone paying just 1K Upfront for a 2 hour GFE ST. Just doesn't sound possible in 2018.
If you had named the bar, then everyone would be flocking there for a super cheap GFE with Pap. Strange name BTW. Are you sure it was not Pat?
If I got a really special price, I would leave it out, because I would not want to brag about getting a girl so hot for it, she almost wanted to fuck for free, and because I would prefer my report to be not only true, but also believable. Also I am not so stingy. I would have given/offered her more as reward for such a good performance, given I often go with girls without negotiating a price.
It has been 10 years since I last mongered and posted here.
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Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.So there is a little cheerleader type go-go dancer in either Dollhouse or Cowboy 2 on Soi Cowboy who is up for wild abandon bareback sex for only 1,000 baht, including the barfine. Or was that no barfine to the bar and just 1,000 baht to her? Or was it only 1,000 baht barfine and the little cheerleader girl goes for free? Maybe I missed something there.
My, my, but things have certainly improved in those Soi Cowboy bars! I might mosy on over there tonight to see if little Pap is free and hasn't been swamped and booked up solid every 2 hours for the next couple of years.
Your bill for 1250 does not seem to be enough to cover the BF and the drinks, unless you are some bargain basement bar. Therefore I have to assume the other 1000 paid upfront was a Barfine? If not how do you explain it? 700 is minimum barfine? Just does not seem to add up to be 100% truth. I suppose 3 lady drinks could be just 450 in some super cheap bars (I don't know which ones, and your drink 100 baht)?
Gogo girls don't go for 1K anymore. Street walkers for quick 30 min fuck, yes. Did I misunderstand and this was the year 2008? "If it just too good to be true, .....". I never heard of anyone paying just 1K Upfront for a 2 hour GFE ST. Just doesn't sound possible in 2018.
Well, there was what I had assumed was a typo in one part of his report: "Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for 1,0000 B. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at."
Now, IF it wasn't a typo and he did indeed agree to pay 10000 baht for the ST with Pap, I could better understand the great attitude and wild abandon bareback sex. On the other hand, maybe he got confused after the drinks and actually did peel off 10000 baht instead of 1000 baht to give the mamasan and has not realized it until this moment.
Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.
Well, there was what I had assumed was a typo in one part of his report: "Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for 1,0000 B. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at."
Now, IF it wasn't a typo and he did indeed agree to pay 10000 baht for the ST with Pap, I could better understand the great attitude and wild abandon bareback sex. On the other hand, maybe he got confused after the drinks and actually did peel off 10000 baht instead of 1000 baht to give the mamasan and has not realized it until this moment.
Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.Ha ha. Your imagination is much better than mine, so you come up with lots of scenarios that I did not even think of.
Was his 2300 total a typo too? 555. To be honest I did not even notice the 10 K typo.
I must admit I sometimes struggled to choose the correct bills in a dark bar, with the colouring not always sufficiently strongly different and long sighted.
Another theory is she expected to receive huge bonus payment and was shocked to not receive it, said nothing (Thais can be like that), and walked off angry (not looking back) having been stiffed, the so called 3 Thai guys not being relevant at all.
Plenty of bargirls have reported to me problems with guys not paying after sex.
Crazy4Thai
11-26-18, 08:39
The only thing I really like about Soi 7/1 is the location and a couple of the hotels there. The ladyboys who are working at massage places and a couple of bars are truly aggressive and annoying. But I decided to step up into the Cool Sports Bar, directly across from Magic Table for a nightcap and to watch some pool. I politely refused attention from the high mileage working girls there and relaxed with my drink. A waitress sat directly across from me but did not bother me. After awhile she seemed to want to work on her limited English a bit from time to time. When I asked how long she worked there she gave the standard reply "3 weeks". True or not, this time it sounded believable. I had 2 drinks, played some pool and bought her a drink. She had that fresh from the country look and lack of language skills. I accurately guessed her age at 24. She is no way a spinner who could work at a gogo bar. I'd say she is a 6 in face and body, being of stout build and not ugly. A good smile and nice eyes. I decided to see if she was up for it. She was excited to accept. She said she wanted 2,000. I offered 1,000. She countered 1,500. I stuck with 1,000 and 500 BF.
The only thing I checked with her was if she would kiss. Off we go. She was not shy and we started in the shower. I started with few kisses and then some kisses on her neck and ears while rubbing her nipple. She lit up immediately and turned out to be one of the most sexually responsive women I have ever had. She was definitely newly arrived. Her Bush was like a disco afro. I thought about taking time to trim it but she was already hot. On the bed I continued the same routine as in the shower and then slowly made my way down for DATY. Pausing to suck her nipples I thought she might cum then. When I made my way through the Bush she was sweet and sopping like a 24 yo will be. I tried to make it last and I am sure that she woke up everyone on that floor. Quite a screamer. Her oral skills made me wonder just what these young-uns get up up country. She was good and I could have CIM but opted for a condom and missionary. I was not surprised by how tight she was as I had already explored her with 1 finger while going down on her. After my own satisfaction I turned her over backside up. More neck kisses and worked my way down to rim her and finger fuck her. She resisted for about 1 second and then started screaming again.
She will not meet your spec if you are too picky. I maintain that I am picky, just not too picky. I also have an excellent track record with service staff who are willing to go but rarely get asked. I repeated with her 2 nights later and I could see evidence of coaching already. Her Bush was trimmed and she was not quite as eager. But it was still good. Her name is BO. In a field of 5 or 6 bar girls and ladyboys, she stands out as the only chunky waitress needing a wardrobe upgrade. She might be completely spoiled in another month. Get her while she's fresh. Do report back please.
C4 T.
Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.
I agree was one of the best reports ever and certainly for a few years. I would add the proviso about choosing a girl wisely to getting what we want. Plenty of times I got a poor girl, but know very well I could have been more careful in the choice.
Since we are being so candid about BBFS, I wonder if it would be rude to ask a question about this, without being a safe sex preacher at all. We all know how much better BBFS can be over covered. Likely to enjoy twice as much, and twice as likely.
Can I ask about how risky is the BBFS, realistically. I put up first by stating I have had Chlamydia twice, once from either BBFS with Thai girl in home country (she denies having anything at all) or from a BBBJ from older girl at the Grace (No FS). Other time was in one eye only, dick not infected, from a "JOne" girl. One other discharge case was tested and found not to be an STD (the girl did not give it to me and did not have it either). In last 13 years, I have had a regular GF, and I have had no STDs, however BBFS has been limited to a special girl or the odd brief one from condom breakage or slip off. Also have been tested regularly in recent years.
From what I read, new HIV cases have declined a lot over the years. Probably was more dangerous back 15 to 20 years ago. Not sure if other STDs are declining or growing. I do know that non-hookers are almost as likely to have an STD than hookers because they BBFS a lot.
So my question is, if a guy does mostly BBFS in Bangkok, what is the expected number of basic STDs (not HIV)? As much as one a year, or less, and are the lowest class girls the most risky? Are Tulip and SW girls risky? I ask these questions from point of view, that if I should start BBFSing more than before, what is the likely level of risk. I am not trying to debate if condoms totally prevent risk but assume that using them reduces risk. One buddy came to Bangkok for first time, and had the Gonner within a few days. Seems to be easy to catch from bad bargirls without a condom, or from any girl with suspect customers.
Do you have any views about girls' risking pregnancy? It is well known that taking the pill is not foolproof, but a combination of pill and condom use makes pregnancy significantly less likely, or even condoms and morning after pill after accidents. Many Thai girls will not have an abortion for religious reasons, so some girls do get pregnant to customers and still have the baby. I am aware of an Oily MP girl with a rather dark skinned baby (presumably not full Thai) and she claimed she was taking the pill, and another bargirl I knew had a half Farang baby, as examples. Are there any extra ways Thai hookers reduce pregnancy risk? I heard the 3 monthly injections are not that infallible also. Clearly regularly bare backing girls could have no clues who the father is. The withdrawal method of birth control is also considered very unreliable, but used in combination with the pill, may give fairly good coverage. Is that the main reason why girls request not to CIP?
What is the reaction to guys that CIP when not permitted?
Do you believe that guys are permitted BBFS somewhat based on levels of trust, i.e. maybe not all guys given same service?
I was chilling at the back of level 3 in NEP a couple of nights ago when this young plump Chinese dude walks out of Billboard with the hottest babe I have seen in a long time. She walks past in this full length / gym body suit and everybody just un ashamedly steers at her, including the NEP security guys. No one even bothered to pretend to not stare, it was just a fuckit I am going to stare because she is that smoking hot moment!
She can be seen prominently on the Billboardbangkok twitter feed, with virtually every 3rd shot with her and is also featured in several photos shoots in November. She is the one that is slightly darker than most, belly button length black wavy hair and very unique eyes.
Ironically I just got off the BTS at Nana and saw her merge in front of me. She looked even more amazing in a black outfit that showed off her quote dark tan.
Anyway, has anyone partaken in her?
AstoraDick
11-26-18, 20:19
Bkkdog,
I salute you for the excellent newbie guide and tips. The only scene I'm familiar here is the Smooci's though I've always been curious about go-go bars. I'm a bit on the shy side so Smooci has been helpful and most importantly reasonably priced.
I'll try the go-go bar scene but for ST and LT- how long are we talking here and how many shots is expected? 4-6 k for a night would be terrific especially morning's sex in the menu.
And by the way, I prefer to stay in Sathorn / Wireless- will it affect my experience had I not stayed in Sukhumvit area?
Well, there was what I had assumed was a typo in one part of his report: "Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for 1,0000 B. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at."
Now, IF it wasn't a typo and he did indeed agree to pay 10000 baht for the ST with Pap, I could better understand the great attitude and wild abandon bareback sex. On the other hand, maybe he got confused after the drinks and actually did peel off 10000 baht instead of 1000 baht to give the mamasan and has not realized it until this moment.
Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.I never knew there was a 10,000 baht note. Never seen one before. But since only 2nd time in Thailand, maybe they do exist. 1,000 baht notes are a lightish brown color, and what one gets from the ATM typically.
It was a typo. I gave Pap 1,000 baht at the bar. I rolled the 1,000 baht note up, and put it between her little tits in her halter top. And my bill for the lady drinks was 1,250 baht and I gave the waitress a tip of 50 baht. Of the 1,250 baht bill, all of it was lady drinks except for the 1 Singha I had, as I don't really drink much.
Total cost 2,300 baht.
Maybe it helped that she spoke Lao as her first language, as many from Issan speak it, and I had learned a little Lao. Sabaidee (Hello), korp jai lie lie (Thank you very much); etc. Probably also helped that we had really good chemistry together, laughing and being silly.
On the other hand, my Baccara experience that I posted in the same report, from the prior night, sucked, which makes this event even more amazing.
I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.
Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.
If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.
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I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.
Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.
If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.I don't think you have to respond to anyone questioning the accuracy of your reports. I believe if anyone is intentionally lying about their adventures in Thailand they must be nuts because if you can think in the LOS it will happen. There is an element who look at every word typed and can not help themselves but to comment. They contribute little but type a lot! In my opinion all that matters is that you had a good time and if no one believes you who really cares.
Enjoy your mongering and I will read your Phuket report now.
All the best.
Rob.
I was chilling at the back of level 3 in NEP a couple of nights ago when this young plump Chinese dude walks out of Billboard with the hottest babe I have seen in a long time. She walks past in this full length / gym body suit and everybody just un ashamedly steers at her, including the NEP security guys. No one even bothered to pretend to not stare, it was just a fuckit I am going to stare because she is that smoking hot moment!
Are you talking about this one, or is your taste different to mine?
Billboard's Pic attached.
I never knew there was a 10,000 baht note. Never seen one before. But since only 2nd time in Thailand, maybe they do exist. 1,000 baht notes are a lightish brown color, and what one gets from the ATM typically.
It was a typo. I gave Pap 1,000 baht at the bar. I rolled the 1,000 baht note up, and put it between her little tits in her halter top. And my bill for the lady drinks was 1,250 baht and I gave the waitress a tip of 50 baht. Of the 1,250 baht bill, all of it was lady drinks except for the 1 Singha I had, as I don't really drink much.
Total cost 2,300 baht.
Maybe it helped that she spoke Lao as her first language, as many from Issan speak it, and I had learned a little Lao. Sabaidee (Hello), korp jai lie lie (Thank you very much); etc. Probably also helped that we had really good chemistry together, laughing and being silly.
On the other hand, my Baccara experience that I posted in the same report, from the prior night, sucked, which makes this event even more amazing.
I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.
Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.
If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.I have never seen a 10,000 baht note either and did not mean to say someone could peel off a single note and get it wrong in that way. But for sure the new king 1,000 baht notes look remarkably like the new king 100 baht notes in a dark environment where the different colors don't stand out. I have peeled off one of those 1,000 baht notes and one of those 100 baht notes in a dark setting at a cashier in a Starbuck's thinking I was giving her 200 baht and only caught it because the girl looked a little longer at the notes a bit confused.
Your experience with Pap from that Soi Cowboy go-go bar is probably the most successful go-go bargirl report I have ever read short of the mamasan waving off the barfine and the go-go girl giving a punter a top quality True GFE Long Time for free. Nobody will do better than that imo. Good for you.
I agree was one of the best reports ever and certainly for a few years. I would add the proviso about choosing a girl wisely to getting what we want. Plenty of times I got a poor girl, but know very well I could have been more careful in the choice.
Since we are being so candid about BBFS, I wonder if it would be rude to ask a question about this, without being a safe sex preacher at all. We all know how much better BBFS can be over covered. Likely to enjoy twice as much, and twice as likely.
Can I ask about how risky is the BBFS, realistically. I put up first by stating I have had Chlamydia twice, once from either BBFS with Thai girl in home country (she denies having anything at all) or from a BBBJ from older girl at the Grace (No FS). Other time was in one eye only, dick not infected, from a "JOne" girl. One other discharge case was tested and found not to be an STD (the girl did not give it to me and did not have it either). In last 13 years, I have had a regular GF, and I have had no STDs, however BBFS has been limited to a special girl or the odd brief one from condom breakage or slip off. Also have been tested regularly in recent years.
From what I read, new HIV cases have declined a lot over the years. Probably was more dangerous back 15 to 20 years ago. Not sure if other STDs are declining or growing. I do know that non-hookers are almost as likely to have an STD than hookers because they BBFS a lot.
So my question is, if a guy does mostly BBFS in Bangkok, what is the expected number of basic STDs (not HIV)? As much as one a year, or less, and are the lowest class girls the most risky? Are Tulip and SW girls risky? I ask these questions from point of view, that if I should start BBFSing more than before, what is the likely level of risk. I am not trying to debate if condoms totally prevent risk but assume that using them reduces risk. One buddy came to Bangkok for first time, and had the Gonner within a few days. Seems to be easy to catch from bad bargirls without a condom, or from any girl with suspect customers.
Do you have any views about girls' risking pregnancy? It is well known that taking the pill is not foolproof, but a combination of pill and condom use makes pregnancy significantly less likely, or even condoms and morning after pill after accidents. Many Thai girls will not have an abortion for religious reasons, so some girls do get pregnant to customers and still have the baby. I am aware of an Oily MP girl with a rather dark skinned baby (presumably not full Thai) and she claimed she was taking the pill, and another bargirl I knew had a half Farang baby, as examples. Are there any extra ways Thai hookers reduce pregnancy risk? I heard the 3 monthly injections are not that infallible also. Clearly regularly bare backing girls could have no clues who the father is. The withdrawal method of birth control is also considered very unreliable, but used in combination with the pill, may give fairly good coverage. Is that the main reason why girls request not to CIP?
What is the reaction to guys that CIP when not permitted?
Do you believe that guys are permitted BBFS somewhat based on levels of trust, i.e. maybe not all guys given same service?Sincerely, through the years you've been one of the top contributors on ISG. I'm more likely to read your posts, just because you wrote them. Given that, this post is incredibly naive. Maybe that's a good thing, as it means you haven't barebacked enough providers to have much experience with the perils of unprotected sex.
Anyway, just don't do it. You will get burned. If you start barebacking every hooker you're with, you will get STD's, chlamydia and HPV for sure, and it won't take long. A year? If you're doing a couple of different women a week you'd be lucky to last a month. The bigger concern is pregnancy. Unprotected sex, regardless of whether it's with prostitutes or civilians, can totally fuck up your life. I speak from experience.
Some joker on one of the boards like ISG long ago said he'd been with something like 1500 or 2000 women in southeast Asia bareback and never caught anything. Undoubtedly the guy would have contracted HPV, chlamydia and herpes. He might not have necessarily known it, as often people have these STD's but don't recognize the symptoms. But he had them, unless he had some kind of superhuman immune system. He disappeared after a while -- I figure he may have gotten HIV and passed away.
Sincerely, through the years you've been one of the top contributors on ISG. I'm more likely to read your posts, just because you wrote them. Given that, this post is incredibly naive. Maybe that's a good thing, as it means you haven't barebacked enough providers to have much experience with the perils of unprotected sex.
Anyway, just don't do it. You will get burned. If you start barebacking every hooker you're with, you will get STD's, chlamydia and HPV for sure, and it won't take long. A year? If you're doing a couple of different women a week you'd be lucky to last a month. The bigger concern is pregnancy. Unprotected sex, regardless of whether it's with prostitutes or civilians, can totally fuck up your life. I speak from experience.
Some joker on one of the boards like ISG long ago said he'd been with something like 1500 or 2000 women in southeast Asia bareback and never caught anything. Undoubtedly the guy would have contracted HPV, chlamydia and herpes. He might not have necessarily known it, as often people have these STD's but don't recognize the symptoms. But he had them, unless he had some kind of superhuman immune system. He disappeared after a while -- I figure he may have gotten HIV and passed away.You are correct. Play bare enough and you will contract STDs. HIV however is not likely, but multi-drug resistant strains of chla and gon are on the rise. Yep, HPV and HSV II as well. Most guys who use condoms will eventually contract these as well. To think you will be immune is naive. And for us over 50 guys, get an infection that travels to the prostate and it is a b#%ch to get rid of. For most of us, and I don't "skin it" for vag or anal, it is a risk we are willing to take.
You are correct. Play bare enough and you will contract STDs. HIV however is not likely, but multi-drug resistant strains of chla and gon are on the rise. Yep, HPV and HSV II as well. Most guys who use condoms will eventually contract these as well. To think you will be immune is naive. And for us over 50 guys, get an infection that travels to the prostate and it is a b#%ch to get rid of. For most of us, and I don't "skin it" for vag or anal, it is a risk we are willing to take.Words of wisdom Goatscrot. You don't have to be over 50 to get something in your prostate. I had chlamydia when I was in my early 30's that went untreated, and my urologist believed that caused chronic prostatitis. That shit stuck with me for many years.
Sincerely, through the years you've been one of the top contributors on ISG. I'm more likely to read your posts, just because you wrote them. Given that, this post is incredibly naive. Maybe that's a good thing, as it means you haven't barebacked enough providers to have much experience with the perils of unprotected sex.
Yes I am nave in the sense that I am not aware of exactly how often one would likely catch an STD. Simply because I have not been risking it in general. If a girl offers BB too easily, I would not want to take her up on it most likely. I did state the case of the buddy that caught one in his first few days in Thailand. That was good enough evidence of risk for me. Obviously if the both the girl and the guy are somewhat exclusive in who they BB, and both get tested regularly as well, the risk is massively diminished. So for example I do BBFS with GF but I don't alternate BBing her and others, and I do get tested regularly, and especially after any condom accident. Even BBBJ has some risk.
I thought it would be useful to get some opinions from those more experienced in barebacking regularly, which is why I asked. I also pointed out the risk of causing unwanted babies.
I took more than one long term test for HSV-1 and 2 and got failed to get a conclusive result. One test positive and another test by Red Cross negative. So who knows? HPV (papilloma virus is extremely common). I thought everyone had warts or papilomas somewhere at some time. So not really one to be too worried about (unless you are a young girl and happen to get the uterine cancer risk strain).
Having had 1000s of BBBJs, one would expect to have caught a HSV virus at some point even if type 1 (cold sores) is far more likely, yet I still don't know for sure if ever caught it.
Remember that preaching on safe sex is not permitted, especially in the wrong thread, so I merely am seeking opinions about risk level based on the experience of those who BB as a habit. I don't have anything against them making there choice. Herpes was a hot topic when I was quite young and starting into sex but that topic went very quiet indeed when HIV arrived.
I appreciate Goat's advice re new strains of STDs hard to treat and admit to knowing very little about them. However my questions were really aimed at those that BBFS regularly with a variety of girls, since they are the ones with the experience to know how often an STD might be caught. If you got burned just once or twice, then you are just like me (years ago).
I expect lots of guys are BBing regularly, but only some of them are stating that they do so, e.g. Eih T and BKKDog, and some other buddies. I am sure they have decided the pleasures outweigh the risks for them. However would be useful many guys on the forum to have a clue of how often they will catch something, if they make it a general habit.
I have had certain regular girls that state they do not BB, too smart to do so, however it is not clear to me if they would weaken for very regular customers, and given testing certificates etc, or for extra money, as have not tried to push them on the topic. Girls are known to be liars on this topic. Also I don't know much about what percentage of girls are willing, since I did not ask them for it. Suppose I asked, and then said thanks but I don't actually want it. This would be considered rather impolite. Like asking the price to buy an item on the street when you don't actually want it at all. That is a no-no is Thai society.
Words of wisdom Goatscrot. You don't have to be over 50 to get something in your prostate. I had chlamydia when I was in my early 30's that went untreated, and my urologist believed that caused chronic prostatitis. That shit stuck with me for many years.Exact same thing happened to me when I was 24, in the US none the less. Took for ever to get "better. " Better was all I got. Never 100% since. Turned me from a shooter to a dribbler. Dr said if he'd have come in blindfolded judging from the size of my prostate at the time he would have thought I was 50 up. Said not to worry that by the time I was 50 they'd have great drugs. Well, not really and thankfully I don't need them; yet.
Yes I am nave in the sense that I am not aware of exactly how often one would likely catch an STD. Simply because I have not been risking it in general. If a girl offers BB too easily, I would not want to take her up on it most likely. I did state the case of the buddy that caught one in his first few days in Thailand. That was good enough evidence of risk for me. Obviously if the both the girl and the guy are somewhat exclusive in who they BB, and both get tested regularly as well, the risk is massively diminished. So for example I do BBFS with GF but I don't alternate BBing her and others, and I do get tested regularly, and especially after any condom accident. Even BBBJ has some risk.
I thought it would be useful to get some opinions from those more experienced in barebacking regularly, which is why I asked. I also pointed out the risk of causing unwanted babies.
-snip-I think the problem with asking barebackers what is the percentage of times they get an STD or how often they get one (if I understand the jist of your question) is the answer is practically unknowable unless they are getting tested regularly for all STDs and keep a detailed log on how many times they barebacked since their last clean test result. And even that would not tell anyone, including themselves, what the percentage would be for them going forward. And certainly not tell anyone else anything of value. We all react too differently to potential infection I suppose.
I have been barebacking for about 47 years, by now thousands of different women from various countries, most of them P4P. Yet the only STD I ever got was a dose of easily treatable trichomonas about 46 years ago from a non pro university age girlfriend. That is up to and including extensive tests I took for anything and everything that might be causing an ache in my groin area a few years back (it was a soft tissue or muscle strain, never found out conclusively. But virtually every test was conducted to find out what the hell it was) and a thorough blood, "take a leak" and "poo-poo" (thwarting the Code Word restrictions here) test about a month ago on anything that might concern a very picky health insurance company that I was in no danger of making a claim for anything over the next few years. I have had separate tests for HPV while I was in the process of getting the vaccine series for it recently. Tested for gono. And there is my usual every 1-2 months HIV/Syphilis test at Thai Red Cross.
All I can say is I have had no symptoms or evidence of any STD in my body all this time. A couple of times I had abrasions on the shaft of my dick after a session I knew would probably result in such a thing due to overly aggressive cowgirl action on it. I smeared an over the counter medicated ointment on it and it was gone by the evening of the next day. One other time time I didn't have any medicated ointment around and only smeared some generic hand lotion on it. It was gone in exactly the same amount of time, a little over a day.
On the other hand, we have all heard stories about guys who went bareback once and wound up with everything short of leprosy.
I have a buddy who claims to come down with something every other month even THROUGH the condoms he also claims to use sometime. Even through covered BJ! But he also goes bareback whenever he gets the chance. By my reckoning, he claims to have gotten something more often through the condoms than after he has gone bareback. In fact, I am not sure he has ever complained of getting something after going bareback, only after he wore a condom. So go figure.
Unwanted pregnancy has never been an issue for me since I got a vasectomy about 30 years ago. Before then, I suppose the girls' birth control pills were doing their job well.
Unprotected sex, regardless of whether it's with prostitutes or civilians, can totally fuck up your life. I speak from experience.
If you got burned just once or twice, then you are just like me (years ago).I wish I'd been as cautious as you earlier on in my life. Things would have turned out a whole lot better. A bigger concern than how STD's affect your health is the effect of bareback sex on the people and the world around you. A Thai prostitute may not be barebacking a different customer every week. But she might be looking to have a luk krueng child with a generous guy like you. Or she might want to blackmail you. Or you might get an STD from her and then give it to your girlfriend or wife.
If you google "prevalence rate (name of STD) prostitutes Thailand" and "transmission rate (name of STD)" and spend a bit of time reading you'll get a handle pretty quickly on what the risks are. I probably misspoke when I said you'd be lucky to last a month without getting an STD if you barebacked a couple of providers a week. If you assume an 8% prevalence rate for Thai prostitutes for chlamydia (probably low) and a 32% transmission rate, then consider there are lots of other STD's, maybe it would be more accurate to say you'd be lucky to last a quarter (3 months).
A large percentage of people with chlamydia, gonorrhea, herpes or HPV are asymptomatic or don't notice the symptoms. I suspect many who had chlamydia or gonorrhea were subsequently cleared of it when they took antibiotics for other conditions. HPV is hard to diagnose in men. A physician has to identify some kind of a spot on the penis that he thinks may be HPV, then biopsy it and then send it in to a lab for testing. Many or most physicians don't routinely test for herpes, since a large percentage of the population has it and you can't cure it.
Also, there are the lucky few who have great immune systems and were wise enough to get a vasectomy. I wish I were one of them.
Exact same thing happened to me when I was 24, in the US none the less. Took for ever to get "better. " Better was all I got. Never 100% since. Turned me from a shooter to a dribbler. Dr said if he'd have come in blindfolded judging from the size of my prostate at the time he would have thought I was 50 up. Said not to worry that by the time I was 50 they'd have great drugs. Well, not really and thankfully I don't need them; yet.Oh man, that doesn't sound like fun. Mine pretty much went away after about 10 years. And when it was acting up a round of doxycycline would knock it out for a while.
Member #4591
11-27-18, 14:26
Bkkdog,
I salute you for the excellent newbie guide and tips. The only scene I'm familiar here is the Smooci's though I've always been curious about go-go bars. I'm a bit on the shy side so Smooci has been helpful and most importantly reasonably priced.
I'll try the go-go bar scene but for ST and LT- how long are we talking here and how many shots is expected? 4-6 k for a night would be terrific especially morning's sex in the menu.
And by the way, I prefer to stay in Sathorn / Wireless- will it affect my experience had I not stayed in Sukhumvit area?ST is generally 1 shot and 1-2 hours depending on the girl. LT is whatever you and the girl agree upon but the standard is one or two shots in the night and one in the morning.
Member #4591
11-27-18, 14:33
I agree was one of the best reports ever and certainly for a few years. I would add the proviso about choosing a girl wisely to getting what we want. Plenty of times I got a poor girl, but know very well I could have been more careful in the choice.
Since we are being so candid about BBFS, I wonder if it would be rude to ask a question about this, without being a safe sex preacher at all. We all know how much better BBFS can be over covered. Likely to enjoy twice as much, and twice as likely.
Can I ask about how risky is the BBFS, realistically. I put up first by stating I have had Chlamydia twice, once from either BBFS with Thai girl in home country (she denies having anything at all) or from a BBBJ from older girl at the Grace (No FS). Other time was in one eye only, dick not infected, from a "JOne" girl. One other discharge case was tested and found not to be an STD (the girl did not give it to me and did not have it either). In last 13 years, I have had a regular GF, and I have had no STDs, however BBFS has been limited to a special girl or the odd brief one from condom breakage or slip off. Also have been tested regularly in recent years.
From what I read, new HIV cases have declined a lot over the years. Probably was more dangerous back 15 to 20 years ago. Not sure if other STDs are declining or growing. I do know that non-hookers are almost as likely to have an STD than hookers because they BBFS a lot.
So my question is, if a guy does mostly BBFS in Bangkok, what is the expected number of basic STDs (not HIV)? As much as one a year, or less, and are the lowest class girls the most risky? Are Tulip and SW girls risky? I ask these questions from point of view, that if I should start BBFSing more than before, what is the likely level of risk. I am not trying to debate if condoms totally prevent risk but assume that using them reduces risk. One buddy came to Bangkok for first time, and had the Gonner within a few days. Seems to be easy to catch from bad bargirls without a condom, or from any girl with suspect customers.
Do you have any views about girls' risking pregnancy? It is well known that taking the pill is not foolproof, but a combination of pill and condom use makes pregnancy significantly less likely, or even condoms and morning after pill after accidents. Many Thai girls will not have an abortion for religious reasons, so some girls do get pregnant to customers and still have the baby. I am aware of an Oily MP girl with a rather dark skinned baby (presumably not full Thai) and she claimed she was taking the pill, and another bargirl I knew had a half Farang baby, as examples. Are there any extra ways Thai hookers reduce pregnancy risk? I heard the 3 monthly injections are not that infallible also. Clearly regularly bare backing girls could have no clues who the father is. The withdrawal method of birth control is also considered very unreliable, but used in combination with the pill, may give fairly good coverage. Is that the main reason why girls request not to CIP?
What is the reaction to guys that CIP when not permitted?
Do you believe that guys are permitted BBFS somewhat based on levels of trust, i.e. maybe not all guys given same service?I will only tell you that I haven't caught anything yet but I'm pretty sure that the girls I have been with in that capacity don't give BBFS up to every customer. However, it would be naive of me to think that I'm the only one. I can only tell you that I'm not the type of guy to go with hardcore freelancers in BKK or Pattaya and those are the ladies I would worry about. The oily girls have to stay healthy or it's not easy to work. Same with the Go Go girls. I have also never CIP when the girl asked me not to. In all my encounters where I have CIP, I always got permission to do so. BBFS is one thing, but one would be a complete asshole to CIP without permission. Anyways, enough about this topic as I'm afraid it will bring out the safe sex police. They have been in hiding for a while and I don't wish for them to come out.
Member #4591
11-27-18, 14:38
I'm glad to see more reports in the BKK section recently. I have enjoyed reading them all. Please keep it up and thanks to everyone who has contributed.
Blanquiceleste
11-27-18, 14:56
I never knew there was a 10,000 baht note. Never seen one before. But since only 2nd time in Thailand, maybe they do exist. 1,000 baht notes are a lightish brown color, and what one gets from the ATM typically.
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I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.You did well my friend. All that matters is you had a great time. You don't have to prove anything to anyone on this forum.
There are two kinds of people. One kind who will sit behind a keyboard and theorize and try to find holes in your report, while letting their own imagination run wild and justify to themselves that your report is not a true account. And then there are others who will quietly follow the lead and go have a good time with Pap. Go figure.
Blanquiceleste
11-27-18, 15:15
This sounds like a total fantas and no way I believe it.
Your bill for 1250 does not seem to be enough to cover the BF and the drinks, unless you are some bargain basement bar. Just doesn't sound possible in 2018.
So there is a little cheerleader type go-go dancer in either Dollhouse or Cowboy 2 on Soi Cowboy who is up for wild abandon bareback sex for only 1,000 baht, including the barfine. Or was that no barfine to the bar and just 1,000 baht to her? Or was it only 1,000 baht barfine and the little cheerleader girl goes for free? Maybe I missed something there.
My, my, but things have certainly improved in those Soi Cowboy bars! I might mosy on over there tonight to see if little Pap is free and hasn't been swamped and booked up solid every 2 hours for the next couple of years.
Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.
Another theory is she expected to receive huge bonus payment and was shocked to not receive it, said nothing (Thais can be like that), and walked off angry (not looking back) having been stiffed, the so called 3 Thai guys not being relevant at all. Plenty of bargirls have reported to me problems with guys not paying after sex.It is quite sad to the see senior members pounce upon a BM who came to this thread and posted a FR after a long time. Congratulations. You have managed to discourage that guy from posting here again and potentially several other members reading this thread.
Why is it so hard to believe someone other than yourself had a good time? You have no trouble believing someone had a crappy time, do you? Is it because that makes you feel good? That you are not alone is getting suckered? Or you take pleasure in someone else's misery? Whatever it is, this leaves a bad taste. Shame on you guys.
Shame on you guys.
And I don't think this forum needs a mother telling us what to do.That latter quote was such good advice. Why don't you try taking it sometime?
Member #4591
11-27-18, 17:26
I never knew there was a 10,000 baht note. Never seen one before. But since only 2nd time in Thailand, maybe they do exist. 1,000 baht notes are a lightish brown color, and what one gets from the ATM typically.
It was a typo. I gave Pap 1,000 baht at the bar. I rolled the 1,000 baht note up, and put it between her little tits in her halter top. And my bill for the lady drinks was 1,250 baht and I gave the waitress a tip of 50 baht. Of the 1,250 baht bill, all of it was lady drinks except for the 1 Singha I had, as I don't really drink much.
Total cost 2,300 baht.
Maybe it helped that she spoke Lao as her first language, as many from Issan speak it, and I had learned a little Lao. Sabaidee (Hello), korp jai lie lie (Thank you very much); etc. Probably also helped that we had really good chemistry together, laughing and being silly.
On the other hand, my Baccara experience that I posted in the same report, from the prior night, sucked, which makes this event even more amazing.
I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.
Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.
If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.Thanks for the endorsement on my post earlier. I would like to chime in on this one. The two seniors questioning your report don't mean any harm. They are both good guys who contribute solid info to the board Sygs and Tooms. Normally how it works as you know from Baccara is you pay the bar fine and the drink bill in the bar and the ST or LT fee to the lady after the deed is done. How you managed to get out of paying the ST or LT fee is beyond me but kudos to you if you did. I'm inclined to say and think that little Pap just fucked up and forgot to collect her fee or even mention it to you. Being new and all and having those 2 Thai men gossiping you and her out front of the hotel could of led to her storming off and forgetting to ask for her fee. Coincidently, Cowboy 2 and Dollhouse are also two bars known for having inflated barfines and more expensive ST and LT rates as they try to take on a more coyote bar business model that justifies the extra fees and higher prices. Anyways, welcome back to the forum and please continue posting. I don't see any reason for you to lie.
On a side note, there are other members on this board who like to over embellish their reports and I even verified that the report of one of those members was a total fabrication. I paid a visit to the bar in question and asked where the girls were. I was told there were never any girls there. Therefore, some members do lie hence the skepticism. Don't take it personally.
Thanks for the endorsement on my post earlier. I would like to chime in on this one. The two seniors questioning your report don't mean any harm. They are both good guys who contribute solid info to the board Sygs and Tooms. Normally how it works as you know from Baccara is you pay the bar fine and the drink bill in the bar and the ST or LT fee to the lady after the deed is done. How you managed to get out of paying the ST or LT fee is beyond me but kudos to you if you did. I'm inclined to say and think that little Pap just fucked up and forgot to collect her fee or even mention it to you. Being new and all and having those 2 Thai men gossiping you and her out front of the hotel could of led to her storming off and forgetting to ask for her fee. Coincidently, Cowboy 2 and Dollhouse are also two bars known for having inflated barfines and more expensive ST and LT rates as they try to take on a more coyote bar business model that justifies the extra fees and higher prices. Anyways, welcome back to the forum and please continue posting. I don't see any reason for you to lie.
On a side note, there are other members on this board who like to over embellish their reports and I even verified that the report of one of those members was a total fabrication. I paid a visit to the bar in question and asked where the girls were. I was told there were never any girls there. Therefore, some members do lie hence the skepticism. Don't take it personally.Thanks for your chiming in on this, Bkkdog. I think you nailed what the questioning of it was really about very well. Perhaps it was the somewhat matter-of-fact mention of the total cost that struck a strange note about it, as though there was nothing particularly unusual about getting that kind of service/attitude/results in exchange for only paying a 1000 baht barfine. Like it was just another "good" experience in a Soi Cowboy go-go bar anyone might expect.
I could be totally wrong, of course, but I think Elmo also thinks the Thai guys saying whatever to her and her walking away from him so fast at approximately the moment he would or might have given her some money was the reason she didn't get paid and not because that was her usual pattern or even that it was a special gift bestowed on a customer she was happy to be with. Or why would he mention that otherwise somewhat irrelevant detail.
Member #4698
11-27-18, 18:53
It has been 10 years since I last mongered ...
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NIGHT 2: I wanted to visit the following bars that I had not tried the night before. Cowboy 2; Dollhouse; and Shark.
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Pap comes back, dressed in street clothes. A tiny pair of shorts and a short little shirt. Looking like one of the cutest teens I have ever seen. All while I am thinking that my cock will be in her tight wet little pussy in a few minutes. We walk to my nearby hotel and she is being silly the whole way. Singing "Thank you, see you again tomorrow" over and over again on the way to the hotel, laughing the whole time. She is amazed by the fancy hotel lobby. We get in the elevator and take it up to my upper level room. Exiting the elevator, you can look down the many floors to the lobby and she is in awe. I say, let's go to my room, and she starts playing a silly game of going right when I point left, etc. laughing and having fun. I join in the silliness for a bit, and then pick her up, put her over my shoulder and carry her all the way to my room door. She is laughing the whole way. As I carry her, I am amazed at just how light and slender she is, as well as how firm every part of her body is. Enter the deluxe room and she is blown away by it. All of this supports that she is brand new in town. She does a tour of the entire place, while I go sit on the bed. She sees the minifridge, opens it and I ask if she wants a beer. Her eyes beam. She ends up drinking about 2/3 of a can of Singha. Using the free guest toothbrush, I suggest we brush our teeth. We do that, and then I go sit back to the bed, next to the 2 towels. She comes over takes off her top (no bra) pulls off my shirt, takes off her short, short shorts, and I see that she had no underwear on and a beautiful small clean shaven pussy. She points at my pants, and I quickly undress. She immediately grabs my hard cock with one hand, and gives me a deep, deep French kiss. Pushes me back down on top the bed, and lays on top of me French kissing me. My hands feel up her tiny hard body. With one hand I can almost grab her entire tiny butt. I roll her over so she is on the bed, start sucking her tits and then go for some DATY. She quickly cums very hard, lots of wet juice from her small little pussy. I put a condom on, and use a little lube, which she is curious about. I put some on her fingers and she rolls them around, checking out the lube. I then fuck her in missionary, doggie and her on top for a while. She cums again while on top and is a little tired I could see. I stop fucking her, and start cuddling and kissing her. But I lose most of my erection. When she tries to rub now softer cock, I take off the condom so she could give my a HJ. A little HJ, combined with some DFK, gets me rock hard again. I DATY her again, with one finger inside in her small wet pussy. She cums again going "fuck, fuck, fuck. " I immediately enter her (no condom) and we fuck like crazy. In missionary, I put her legs up on my shoulders, grab her tiny waist and pound her. Also lean way forward and DFK while fucking her. Almost want to cum but switch to doggy and fuck her hard. She climaxes with her pussy just pulsing like I have not experienced in a long, long time. I pull out and shoot a huge load on her back. (I almost cum in her pussy, and probably should have, but all while fucking her I was thinking, I am not 100% she would be proper effective birth control just yet, so I am not going to risk a CIP shot). I wipe up all of the cum off her back with one of the towels, which we had not used as neither of us had taken a shower yet. First time I have ever had a thai bar girl that did not shower before hand. But she was squeeky clean anyway.
She then lay face down on the bed and I started to massage her back. She wanted me to massage the back of her neck and I did so. After a few minutes, I was thirsty and grabbed some water and asked if she wanted some water. She wanted some more of her beer which I handed to her. I sat on the end of the bed and had a drink. She got up, took a sip of the beer and then sat on my lap, wanting me to further massage the back of her neck. I did so, then started massaging her perfect little breasts. I slid my hand down and slipped one finger into her wet pussy and fingered her. She got very wet, turned around, stuck her tongue down my throat, pushed me back down on to the bed, got on top of me and slid my bare cock into her tight pussy. She road me bareback on top for a while, and I almost shot a huge load deep into her. I was able to have her stop riding me. Moved to missionary, put her legs on my shoulders, grabbed her slender waist and pounded her hard. Pulled out just before cumming, and shot a huge load all over her stomach and chest. I then collapsed. She looked at all the cum and started spreading it around her. She says my name, says "good" and then goes and takes a shower. She comes back dressed in her tiny little shorts and shirt, looking just like a young highschool cheerleader again.
I say, hey I will walk you out of the hotel, thinking she would get lost on the way. I quickly get dressed and we leave arm in arm. She has no idea where to go, so I lead her to the elevator, down to the lobby, and out the front door. The whole time she is rubbing my arm, kissing my hand and reaching up and kissing my cheek. We turn down the street back towards Soi cowboy, and I notice 3 thai guys behind us who had been coming down the street. One of them says something. Pap immediately stops, lets go of my hand and then walks off. I look back at the 3 thai guys, but they turn around and quickly walk off in the opposite direction. Not sure what they said. I watch Pap walk away, thinking that could just be a gorgeous young girl that I fantasize about as I pass her on the street. But, instead I just had 2 plus hours of great bareback sex with her. Pap never looks bad. Elmo, Pap sounds like a great gal. I like your report, especially the good part. I think BKKdog gives an very plausible explanation of what happened at the end. If I were you and still in touch with Pap, I would let her know that you have not forgotten her and that you still owe her some money. Your reward aside from good karma will be yours the next time you see her.
Der Herr Blum
11-27-18, 19:41
If I were you and still in touch with Pap, I would let her know that you have not forgotten her and that you still owe her some money. Your reward aside from good karma will be yours the next time you see her.It happened to me more than once that I forgot to pay the barfine or the ST or LT fee. But only with girls and bars I regularly see. Last year I didn't pay the barfine in Billboard, but my girl gently reminded me next time I saw her, because she told me she had to pay it for me. Don't know if that is true, but I gave it back to her anyway. For good karma and for trust with the girl.
I also received a"I think maybe you forget something" Line message in the morning when forgetting the ST fee. I always paid it back and the lady is always happy to see me again, despite being so forgetful.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-27-18, 20:53
Elmo, Pap sounds like a great gal. I like your report, especially the good part. I think BKKdog gives an very plausible explanation of what happened at the end. If I were you and still in touch with Pap, I would let her know that you have not forgotten her and that you still owe her some money. Your reward aside from good karma will be yours the next time you see her.
Snip. I could be totally wrong, of course, but I think Elmo also thinks the Thai guys saying whatever to her and her walking away from him so fast at approximately the moment he would or might have given her some money was the reason she didn't get paid and not because that was her usual pattern or even that it was a special gift bestowed on a customer she was happy to be with. Or why would he mention that otherwise somewhat irrelevant detail.
Snip. Normally how it works as you know from Baccara is you pay the bar fine and the drink bill in the bar and the ST or LT fee to the lady after the deed is done. How you managed to get out of paying the ST or LT fee is beyond me but kudos to you if you did. I'm inclined to say and think that little Pap just fucked up and forgot to collect her fee or even mention it to you. Being new and all and having those 2 Thai men gossiping you and her out front of the hotel could of led to her storming off and forgetting to ask for her fee. Snip. She didn't forget to get paid or run off before being paid because of the Thai guys. He paid her the 1000 Baht at the bar.
Snip. It was a typo. I gave Pap 1,000 baht at the bar. I rolled the 1,000 baht note up, and put it between her little tits in her halter top. And my bill for the lady drinks was 1,250 baht and I gave the waitress a tip of 50 baht. Of the 1,250 baht bill, all of it was lady drinks except for the 1 Singha I had, as I don't really drink much.
Total cost 2,300 baht. Snip.
Member #4698
11-27-18, 21:24
She didn't forget to get paid or run off before being paid because of the Thai guys. He paid her the 1000 Baht at the bar.I was assuming that the 1000 baht was the barfine and the 1250 baht was for ladydrinks. I don't know of any girl in either Cowboy 2 or Dollhouse that would accept 1000 baht for sexual congress during bar hours plus I know for a fact that you don't get a girl out of the bar without paying the barfine upfront.
You are correct. Play bare enough and you will contract STDs. HIV however is not likely, but multi-drug resistant strains of chla and gon are on the rise. Yep, HPV and HSV II as well. Most guys who use condoms will eventually contract these as well. To think you will be immune is naive. And for us over 50 guys, get an infection that travels to the prostate and it is a b#%ch to get rid of. For most of us, and I don't "skin it" for vag or anal, it is a risk we are willing to take.Man, you're frightening me into using 2 condoms. That's much much better than getting some drug resistant STD. I have sometimes been asked to use 2 condoms by a provider, I will no longer refuse them and insist on using one.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-27-18, 22:16
I was assuming that the 1000 baht was the barfine and the 1250 baht was for ladydrinks. I don't know of any girl in either Cowboy 2 or Dollhouse that would accept 1000 baht for sexual congress during bar hours plus I know for a fact that you don't get a girl out of the bar without paying the barfine upfront.His math doesn't add up. He posted he had a beer and ordered 5 lady drinks. To get to 1250 total including bar fine of minimum 700 baht, the 6 drinks would have to cost 550 baht total, which seems highly unlikely. At a minimum of 100 for the beer and 150 each the lady drinks, which is still below standard pricing, that is 850 baht. A 700 baht bar fine would bring the bill to 1550 baht, not 1250.
Blanquiceleste
11-28-18, 01:18
That latter quote was such good advice. Why don't you try taking it sometime?Someone is hurt again. And asking harmless questions again. This is fun.
I wish I could post the multitude of PM's from several BMs giving me ideas on how to respond and prolong this entertainment. But that is not permitted I believe.
Blanquiceleste
11-28-18, 01:22
The two seniors questioning your report don't mean any harm. They are both good guys who contribute solid info to the board Sygs and Tooms. Syzy, yes I agree. Solid reports with very detailed information about venues, girls, process, prices, etc.
ET. Sigh. A joker.
Dog, I have great respect for you and your style. Don't take this above comment personally.
Syzy, yes I agree. Solid reports with very detailed information about venues, girls, process, prices, etc.
ET. Sigh. A joker.
Dog, I have great respect for you and your style. Don't take this above comment personally.Blanquiceleste, when a Field Report here either purposely or inadvertently gives the impression that paying only a 1000 baht barfine and having wild abandon bareback sex with a Soi Cowboy go-go girl who will then be happy to walk away without a baht for herself is just another "good" night on the town in Bangkok's P4P scene that one might reasonably expect any night of the week, it is the posters taking the time and bother to at least question that impression a teeny-tiny bit who do a true service to the purpose of this site. Same in the case of posters who claim they have had hundreds of Thai girls give them a blowjob and not one has ever so much as tried to dodge one shot in the mouth, posters who claim they met stunning bargirls working in this or that bar when it turns out that bar never has bargirls working there and on and on.
By stark contrast, it is the posters who jump to the ridiculous conclusion that the only reason posters would question such reports instead of giving them unqualified kudos and props is because they are jealous and simply don't have the experience and knowledge of the P4P destination who are doing a great disservice to the purpose of this site.
Tell you what; I'll keep posting what I think is useful and relevant here and you keep posting whatever it is you post, your motherly disapproval, your pathetic effort to heal personal wounds, whatever, and why don't we just let everyone else read and give a shit or not about either without you working overtime to characterize it for them. Ok, Mom?
Flyboy 2000
11-28-18, 06:53
Greetings Fkyboy.
This is some very informative and extremely useful information. I always wondered if there was a happy ending in one one of those spas. It's like one for the road. I am sure to now try this out when I am there next. I arrive in Feb. 2019 and will give it a shot.
BTW, do they offer for business class passengers as well and if they have to pay what are the rates?
Have fun.
G.I think they charge if you're not in first class but not 100% sure. I was in a way surprised at the happy ending but at the same time not surprised, I figured as long as one makes the indication discretely and doesn't 'push' the girl and pretty much leaves the decision in her hands, that's all fine,. I was worried a bit about coming off as a yet another creepy white guy but I just judged the signs and her massage and tried to find a way to show my 'interest' in an extra if one was available, then left it up to her. She certainly knew what she was doing, I'll give her that. A very nice technique so I am sure she has had some practice here!
Crocodilexp
11-28-18, 08:05
Man, you're frightening me into using 2 condoms.Don't, it's a bad idea. Condoms are designed to rub against skin, not latex. If you use 2, they will be far more likely to break. Girls who insist on that are seriously misinformed.
As an aside, the condom protects only the area it covers, but there's a fair bit of area it doesn't. That area is a vector for stuff like HPV or HSV II, and there's not much you can do to avoid it, except maybe wash up immediately afterwards.
Any activity carries some degree of risk. You could die or get seriously injured in a car / taxi accident, just as you can contract an STD. The problem for us serious mongers (especially resident expats) is that we're like truckers or cabbies in terms of miles driven, but often without being correspondingly more careful or skilled at avoiding risk.
His math doesn't add up. He posted he had a beer and ordered 5 lady drinks. To get to 1250 total including bar fine of minimum 700 baht, the 6 drinks would have to cost 550 baht total, which seems highly unlikely. At a minimum of 100 for the beer and 150 each the lady drinks, which is still below standard pricing, that is 850 baht. A 700 baht bar fine would bring the bill to 1550 baht, not 1250.I had 2 different experience over 2 nights in Bangkok earlier this month. Posted detailed info on each. But since everyone seems to be caught up on the money details, here is a summary, just so everyone is clear.
Night 1 - girl from Baccara. Had high hopes for her, but she was terrible. I had 1 Singh to drink. Bought her a few lady drinks and asked to bar fine her. Waitress gave me a bill of about 1,500 baht that I paid with a 1,000 note and a 500 note. Girl asked for either ST of 3,000 or LT of 6,000 - but her LT was for only 4 hours! Not much of a LT in my book. Paid her 3,000 at Baccara for ST. It was a terrible experience, as I previously posted in my lengthy report on the night. She even tried to upsell me, while we were in my room at the Pullman to go LT (for only 3 more hours, for an additional 3,000 baht). But I was thinking. This is a crummy experience. Why should I give more money for additional time when the ST so far has been terrible. Definitely my worst experience in Thailand (from my 2008 phuket and Bangkok mongering, and now my 2018 Phuket and Bangkok mongering).
So, total cost for Baccara ST gal: 4,500 baht.
Again, this session was terrible - wish I could remember her name or number, so folks don't waste their time, or money, on her.
Night 2 - gal named Pap from other gogo bar, who gave me the best session I have ever had in Thailand. Waitress said this was only her 3rd day there.
I had 1 Singh beer. I bought Pap 3 lady drinks (at least this is what I recall) I also bought the waitress 2 lady drinks. I told the waitress I would bar fine Pap. (This was after the waitress found out for me that Pap would go with me if I paid Pap 1,000 baht and if I got Pap 2 more lady drinks. I had already bought Pap 1 lady drink, so that is why I believe I bought Pap a total of 3 lady drinks, plus the 2 lady drinks for the waitress -1st one soon after I started talking to her, and the 2nd for the waitress when she returned with the price info on Pap. I agreed to all of this: 2 more lady drinks for Pap, plus 1 000 baht, which I assumed would be ST. When I was ready to leave with Pap, after having only 1 beer, and declining a 2nd Singha, the waitress gave me a bill of 1,250 baht. I paid it with a 1,000 note and a 500 note. As I reported, waitress tried to get me to let her keep the change. I played dumb. Waitress returned with my 250 baht change and I gave her 50 baht tip. So total cost paid to waitress was 1,300 baht.
At the bar, while the waitress was getting my change, I rolled a 1,000 baht note up and put it in Pap's halter top, between her lovely little breasts. So I gave Pap the 1,000 baht she had asked for. Pap then went an changed into a pair of short shorts and a small shirt. We then walked back to my deluxe room at the Pullman.
So total cost that night for a 2 pop ST was 2,300 baht. Was probably with her for 90 minutes or so, just a guess.
As I said before, best session I have had in a long, long time. And I do not think I will ever be able to come close to that level ever again. I noted in my report that I even considered postponing my flight home the next day so that I could be with her again, for another night. But decided against it, something I am still thinking about even now. I also think about Pap a lot. She struck me as very sweet and naive. Certainly believe what the waitress said about this being only her 3rd day. I have no way of contacting her, other than to return to Bangkok and return to which ever gogo bar she was working at. I know I wanted to hit Cowboy 2 and Dollhouse, so it is likely either of those two. I do recall one specific detail of the club that experienced BKK mongers could use to determine the exact bar.
In all honesty, I do feel sorry for Pap. She struck me as such a sweet naive gal and so fun. But I can just see her in 2-3 years, after having been with hundreds of guys, turning into a jaded bar hag. And that makes me feel sad for her.
On a different note, and maybe part of the reason why I have been able to have a lot of really good mongering experiences (along with the occasional dud), please make sure you read, and follow BKK Dog's excellent tips from his Nov 24 post. I cannot second his suggestions enough. I have tried to follow those rules myself, and like to think some of my good results are due to those types of suggested guidelines while mongering.
Good luck to everyone in their mongering. I have no idea when I can next make a trip. Wish it was tomorrow, but honestly may not be for a long time unfortunately. - Elmo.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-28-18, 14:36
Snip. Night 2 - gal named Pap from other gogo bar, who gave me the best session I have ever had in Thailand. Waitress said this was only her 3rd day there.
I had 1 Singh beer. I bought Pap 3 lady drinks (at least this is what I recall) I also bought the waitress 2 lady drinks. I told the waitress I would bar fine Pap. (This was after the waitress found out for me that Pap would go with me if I paid Pap 1,000 baht and if I got Pap 2 more lady drinks. I had already bought Pap 1 lady drink, so that is why I believe I bought Pap a total of 3 lady drinks, plus the 2 lady drinks for the waitress -1st one soon after I started talking to her, and the 2nd for the waitress when she returned with the price info on Pap. I agreed to all of this: 2 more lady drinks for Pap, plus 1 000 baht, which I assumed would be ST. When I was ready to leave with Pap, after having only 1 beer, and declining a 2nd Singha, the waitress gave me a bill of 1,250 baht. I paid it with a 1,000 note and a 500 note. As I reported, waitress tried to get me to let her keep the change. I played dumb. Waitress returned with my 250 baht change and I gave her 50 baht tip. So total cost paid to waitress was 1,300 baht. Snip.As I said, you posted you had 1 beer, ordered 5 lady drinks, and paid a bar fine for a total of 1250 baht (plus 50 baht tip to waitress). This is not possible on Soi Cowboy, especially at Cowboy 2 and Dollhouse. Since there is no way that the bar would let someone who they have never seen before take a girl out without paying the bar fine, the only explanation is that the waitress did not charge you for some lady drinks, presumably hers, which is perhaps why she wanted to keep the 250 baht change, which is more than she would have gotten from her share of two lady drinks. Why she would do this for someone she did not know is perplexing unless you're one smooth dude, in which case, good on you.
Blanquiceleste
11-28-18, 14:39
Tell you what; I'll keep posting what I think is useful and relevant here and you keep posting whatever it is you post, your motherly disapproval, your pathetic effort to heal personal wounds, whatever, and why don't we just let everyone else read and give a shit or not about either without you working overtime to characterize it for them. Ok, Mom?Do I see someone waving a white flag? Walking away tail between legs and yet trying to maintain self-worth and pride? Oh, I am not that intelligent to decipher such cryptic messages.
However, I know my math. With 1400+ posts to my 1100+ anyone can tell who is doing overtime. Matter of interest here is the last 250 posts have ZERO contribution to the collective intelligence of the forum. And a history of barking at occasional posters, like a dog without a bone.
Oooh, yes. I did some overtime for this. Might as well commit the crime when accused for it, eh?
Member #4591
11-28-18, 15:56
This is a live report from Soi Cowboy and there is no sign of any Pap working at either DollHouse or Cowboy 2. Either she has already become jaded or changed her name. I asked around both bars by talking with the Momasons. Anyways, this topic is getting old now so can we get back to posting some reports? I've just entered Suzie Wongs and the girls are topless. Furthermore, , the soi is full of ladies as the bars are lacking customers now. Even Baccara has a huge selection and it is almost 10 PM now. Pap is dead lol.
Member #4591
11-28-18, 18:04
Syzy, yes I agree. Solid reports with very detailed information about venues, girls, process, prices, etc.
ET. Sigh. A joker.
Dog, I have great respect for you and your style. Don't take this above comment personally.I'm not in the mood for your sarcastic crap ok. Tooms is a solid guy and contributes a lot to the forum and frankly I am tired of your sarcastic remarks. If you don't have anything useful to post then I can help you. Go out, fuck a girl, and post a dam report. We got your point the first time ok? Why the fuck can't you let it go? Frankly, I don’t enjoy reading this shit day after day, especially when I am starting to pay to use the forum. Admin, I apologize for this post in advance but I strongly believe that if any member has nothing useful to contribute to the forum, they shouldn’t be aloud to post this nonsense.
Tooms is a solid guy and contributes a lot to the forum.Handsome and well hung too, according to the ladies.
Do I see someone waving a white flag? Walking away tail between legs and yet trying to maintain self-worth and pride? Oh, I am not that intelligent to decipher such cryptic messages.
However, I know my math. With 1400+ posts to my 1100+ anyone can tell who is doing overtime. Matter of interest here is the last 250 posts have ZERO contribution to the collective intelligence of the forum. And a history of barking at occasional posters, like a dog without a bone.
Oooh, yes. I did some overtime for this. Might as well commit the crime when accused for it, eh?If a poster bothers you just add them to your ignore list.
This is a live report from Soi Cowboy and there is no sign of any Pap working at either DollHouse or Cowboy 2. Either she has already become jaded or changed her name. I asked around both bars by talking with the Momasons. Anyways, this topic is getting old now so can we get back to posting some reports? I've just entered Suzie Wongs and the girls are topless. Furthermore, , the soi is full of ladies as the bars are lacking customers now. Even Baccara has a huge selection and it is almost 10 PM now. Pap is dead lol.I swear Bkkdog, I was on Soi Cowboy myself last night around 9 PM and did the same thing; had a drink in both Cowboy 2 and The Dollhouse and asked the mamasan if there was a girl named Pap in them. Got the same negative replies as you did. I also did not see any girls in either bar that fit her description in case the name was not exactly right. I saw no girls in either bar who was as young looking as mentioned or whose butt would fit in a man's hand. Maybe the late, great Wilt Chamberlain could do it with 1-2 of them. I suppose she could "pap up" in another bar since the poster wasn't 100% positive he met her in one of those bars. But I wasn't so interested that I pursued it further.
And, like you said, the whole soi looked quite overwhelmed with girls and lacking in customers. The non barfinable scammer Coyotes standing outside practically every bar almost seemed desperate enough to change their wayward career choice and become available for barfine. Sadly, the only two I was inspired by enough to ask smiled broadly, sweetly and said "no". LOL.
Handsome and well hung too, according to the ladies.Those girls tell me the same thing about every other guy who walks in the bar!
This is a live report from Soi Cowboy and there is no sign of any Pap working at either DollHouse or Cowboy 2. Either she has already become jaded or changed her name. I asked around both bars by talking with the Momasons. Anyways, this topic is getting old now so can we get back to posting some reports? I've just entered Suzie Wongs and the girls are topless. Furthermore, , the soi is full of ladies as the bars are lacking customers now. Even Baccara has a huge selection and it is almost 10 PM now. Pap is dead lol.I unfortunately don't have any additional trips planned anytime soon, so no new reports from me for while. And not sure I have much interest in doing any future reports here either. Been away from the ISG for 10 years, and can certainly just lurk and sponge up info without contributing anything in the future.
I do have great memories of my Mid November trip to Phuket and Bangkok, including my session with Pap. Sorry you did not find her. It was one of the greatest sessions of my life. And what everyone now wants to believe / claim while sitting infront of their phone / computer has no bearing on what I actually got to experience that thurday nght in room 2501 of the Pullman hotel.
As I mentioned, I can give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was. But see no reason to do so now. Nor will I post any of my pics of her. I am so glad I decided to hold off on posting any pics, given folks' responses to date.
If folks get bored here, I suppose one could go to the Phuket thread and start trashing the long report I posted about my fun filled week there.
On a more positive note, I again urge folks to read, and actually follow, the great suggestions that BKK Dog posted back on Nov 24. That info should be mandatory for any guy wanting to seriously upgrade the quality of his mongering experiences. I did the same type of things he discusses, both in my 2004-08 trips to Brazil and the carribean, and again on this just completed trip. And I got lots of great experiences to remember from all of those various trips as a result of following those types of suggestions. My go to mantra, when mongering, is the second part of the old saying "treat a lady like a working girl, and treat a working girl like a lady. ".
Again, I wish everyone the best of luck in their future mongering efforts. - Elmo.
Blanquiceleste
11-29-18, 08:56
If a poster bothers you just add them to your ignore list.Good advice. I hope you follow it too.
BKKDog are you paying attention?
Member #4591
11-29-18, 09:25
I unfortunately don't have any additional trips planned anytime soon, so no new reports from me for while. And not sure I have much interest in doing any future reports here either. Been away from the ISG for 10 years, and can certainly just lurk and sponge up info without contributing anything in the future.
I do have great memories of my Mid November trip to Phuket and Bangkok, including my session with Pap. Sorry you did not find her. It was one of the greatest sessions of my life. And what everyone now wants to believe / claim while sitting infront of their phone / computer has no bearing on what I actually got to experience that thurday nght in room 2501 of the Pullman hotel.
As I mentioned, I can give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was. But see no reason to do so now. Nor will I post any of my pics of her. I am so glad I decided to hold off on posting any pics, given folks' responses to date.
If folks get bored here, I suppose one could go to the Phuket thread and start trashing the long report I posted about my fun filled week there.
On a more positive note, I again urge folks to read, and actually follow, the great suggestions that BKK Dog posted back on Nov 24. That info should be mandatory for any guy wanting to seriously upgrade the quality of his mongering experiences. I did the same type of things he discusses, both in my 2004-08 trips to Brazil and the carribean, and again on this just completed trip. And I got lots of great experiences to remember from all of those various trips as a result of following those types of suggestions. My go to mantra, when mongering, is the second part of the old saying "treat a lady like a working girl, and treat a working girl like a lady. ".
Again, I wish everyone the best of luck in their future mongering efforts. - Elmo.Don't sweat it and don't be stopped by others. I was disappointed I could not find her last night. I was hoping for the same experience as you. However, I was expecting to pay a bar fine in the bar and her fee after the deed. I'm still convinced as she was a newbie that she completely forgot or even didn't know about what she should charge. I don't think you are a liar and never insinuated that. Thanks again for the report and I also enjoyed reading your Phuket one too.
Member #4591
11-29-18, 10:16
I just wasn't feeling Soi Cowboy last night and figured if I went to Nana, it would just be the same thing. Then I remember chatting with a young girl on Thai Friendly who worked at a small bar on Soi 7/1. I went to check it out. As you walk down the Soi on your right hand side you will see 2 massage shops, just around a short bend in the Soi. Next will be 2 small bars. I spotted this cute as seen in my photos below. Turns out she was only 2 days in the business. I spoke with her in my broken Thai and her friend / co-worker translated what she didn't understand. To make a long story short, 2,500 in drinks for me and the two girls, flirting, joking and making future plans to go clubbing together at levels. A great night at a little hole in the wall on Soi 7. 1 ended with be barfining her for 500 Baht and 2,500 LT. A real true GFE in the sense of everything including my finishing inside.
The photo of her last night in the bar is tje one with her wearing my sun glasses and the other 2 are taken from her line. I love Bangkok!
In all honesty, I do feel sorry for Pap. She struck me as such a sweet naive gal and so fun. But I can just see her in 2-3 years, after having been with hundreds of guys, turning into a jaded bar hag. And that makes me feel sad for her.
.Elmo, I am sure you are a nice guy so you should feel sorry that you might have accidentally stiffed her, this poor innocent newbie. You might have been her first customer ever.
You could go back and give her a nice big tip, to make amends. Or ask what happened at least and apologise if you did something wrong.
I still think the most likely explanation is you paid for drinks and a barfine, but did not pay the girl. I am not clear if she was too shy to ask for money, or forgot. You did write how she suddenly went off without looking back at you.
Anyway you see the danger of posting how you got something miles below the going rate (or perhaps a freebie).
The name Pap sounds just a bit unusual to me. Maybe is not quite 100% correct. Could be Piap, Pat, Pet, etc.
Don't, it's a bad idea. Condoms are designed to rub against skin, not latex. If you use 2, they will be far more likely to break. Girls who insist on that are seriously misinformed.
Condoms are also not designed to rub against a foam sponge shoved up the pussy. I have had condom breakage caused by that, not to mention the difficulty of penetration past 4 to 5 inches, and just not feeling like a proper pussy. So I always insist girls may not wear a sponge inside, even if its their period.
One Thai girl insisted she always put a sponge in, and would not stop, so I simply did not book her any more. She originally did not use one in truth. My fingers are always long enough to find it, and obviously shorter than a dick.
Etaoin2003
11-29-18, 15:11
I like 7/1. You can sit there, sip a beer, and watch guys run the gauntlet (girl massage, ladyboy massage, Chrome, Wood), U-turn, and run the gauntlet again.
Someone is hurt again. And asking harmless questions again. This is fun.
I am sorry if someone feels hurt. It is not my intention. I merely point out some inconsistencies that don't add up.
We don't want everyone to think that girls are going to give freebies or close to it. I think the girl forgot to request money or was too shy too. She probably had never had to do it before. Elmo probably made some mistakes by miss-communication.
Does surprise me he did not think to pay her any more than that, however long absence from Thailand and failing to RTFF.
I have to admit when I returned to bar scene in early 2000's I had little clue what the going rate was, having been away too long. I did not know if was over paying or not. That was before joining the ISG.
I do advise people to be a bit more vague about what they paid, to avoid arguments, and the price police.
I just wasn't feeling Soi Cowboy last night and figured if I went to Nana, it would just be the same thing. Then I remember chatting with a young girl on Thai Friendly who worked at a small bar on Soi 7/1. I went to check it out. As you walk down the Soi on your right hand side you will see 2 massage shops, just around a short bend in the Soi. Next will be 2 small bars. I spotted this cute as seen in my photos below. Turns out she was only 2 days in the business. I spoke with her in my broken Thai and her friend / co-worker translated what she didn't understand. To make a long story short, 2,500 in drinks for me and the two girls, flirting, joking and making future plans to go clubbing together at levels. A great night at a little hole in the wall on Soi 7. 1 ended with be barfining her for 500 Baht and 2,500 LT. A real true GFE in the sense of everything including my finishing inside.
The photo of her last night in the bar is tje one with her wearing my sun glasses and the other 2 are taken from her line. I love Bangkok!She is cute and seems to have a great attitude! Looks even better in the more casual pic than in the carefully posed ones, which is a plus.
I am sorry if someone feels hurt. It is not my intention. I merely point out some inconsistencies that don't add up.
We don't want everyone to think that girls are going to give freebies or close to it. I think the girl forgot to request money or was too shy too. She probably had never had to do it before. Elmo probably made some mistakes by miss-communication.
Does surprise me he did not think to pay her any more than that, however long absence from Thailand and failing to RTFF.
How would you account for the mamasan seeming to know Pap and her usual great service and response from customers so well? That also does not jibe with the unknowing newbie girl scenario. Do you suppose the mamasan was just bullshitting how "great" she was with customers, as so many of them do, and this time it accidentally turned out to be true?
Got to say as I looked at every girl in the line ups at Cowboy 2 and The Dollhouse last night I sure did not see one girl who exuded anything but a rather hardened and jaded demeanor where the possibility of them walking away and forgetting to get paid after the sex was about as likely as one tossing me her only smartphone and saying "You can keep it, I'm bored with it."
Anyways, enough about this topic as I'm afraid it will bring out the safe sex police. They have been in hiding for a while and I don't wish for them to come out.555.
Thanks for that, and seems you have either got quite lucky, or you have chosen the right girls to do it with some how. I do believe freelance or non hooker girls would more risky, (because probably BB with everyone). Girls that get tested regularly should be less risky (but how to know who they are ha ha). I honestly expected that regular bare backers would catch something more often, like my buddy who was Gonner recipient very quick and lively in his first few days here. I got burned twice although well over 15 years ago, and I was not a habitual BBFS person. I do recall specifically declining to take BBFS with a low class Nana girl who specifically offered since I reckon she did it with everyone, and I had got a GF at the time.
Mostly girls never offer me, since I always have my own special condoms.
I do know one of my regular girls gets tested fairly often (and me too) as is paranoid about STDs and particularly HIV.
Unfortunately habitual BBFS hookers are at a significant risk to catch HIV eventually (if enough guys times years), and I have heard of 1 or 2 cases, e. G. A young very pretty Soapy girl (at least she was young in 1991 so probably 25+ years of barebacking mainly Thai men. I only ever did her close friend and yes I was also allowed BBFS in 1991 as she claimed I needed that to stay hard properly for a good long fuck. Ha ha pre Viagra times). I also hear in the Thai village about children who lost both their parents to HIV. Every village has these cases. Not clear with these stories if any relationship to drug taking, homosexuals or bi-sexuals (or ladyboys) but wives could easily catch it from the husband. Fortunately it is on the decline.
With CIP girls, it does concern me about the possibility of the girls getting pregnant accidentally even if they supposedly take the pill or get injections. So I doubt I would ever be asking for CIP. Perhaps some girls will know their cycle and when they are supposedly safe. However many are poorly educated about this and about STDs.
Yes I love BBFS naturally, it is just something for me to way up whether I could risk it with more than 1 or 2 well known girls. CIM is a good fallback for me, when available and having any cum difficulties. For me it is up to everyone to consider for themselves how to have fun, and what risks are acceptably low. Biggest risks for me are dick scared girls and girls that are just not that into old Farangs, and also girls that are just not appealing enough once they get naked.
How would you account for the mamasan seeming to know Pap and her usual great service and response from customers so well? That also does not jibe with the unknowing newbie girl scenario. Do you suppose the mamasan was just bullshitting how "great" she was with customers, as so many of them do, and this time it accidentally turned out to be true?
Now now! Mamasans never tell any bullshit. I am giving Elmo the benefit of the doubt that he just was naïve and fucked up badly accidentally. If any part of the story is true she must have been a newbie to give such a great full 2 hours. Maybe the 3 days on the job is possible. Probably just had the birthday that allowed her to start work.
Looks who knows? Its all just speculation but we nearly all agree he must have failed to pay any more than the drinks and BF. Hard to see the point in making up such a story for a guy on his first trip here for such a long time.
Is there any point to making up stories and bragging about how cheap you got it? Not for most of us. Maybe we have the odd special exception, but I doubt Elmo is that. So many of my reports, I paid a lot more and got a lot less, because I chose the wrong girl, or sometimes got lucky and had the odd very lovey dovey kissy kissy girl, who liked sex a lot.
I am almost equally shocked that BKK Dog got a LT for 2500. Not quite. She must have really liked him a lot, although I don't typically go to these cheaper venues. I was shocked that she was so good looking for that price though.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-29-18, 16:17
Snip. As I mentioned, I can give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was. But see no reason to do so now. Nor will I post any of my pics of her. I am so glad I decided to hold off on posting any pics, given folks' responses to date. Snip.I think his refusal to "give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was" says all we need to know about his story. If he wants to be believed, let him PM Bkkdog or Eih Toooms, for example, since they tried to find Pap, with the detail so they can verify her existence and confirm what he posted. Otherwise, his post is no more than a Penthouse Forum tale.
Member #4591
11-29-18, 16:37
I think his refusal to "give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was" says all we need to know about his story. If he wants to be believed, let him PM Bkkdog or Eih Toooms, for example, since they tried to find Pap, with the detail so they can verify her existence and confirm what he posted. Otherwise, his post is no more than a Penthouse Forum tale.Let's be clear on this. I don't have any plan of verifying his story. I just want to fuck Pap LOL.
Member #4591
11-29-18, 16:50
I am almost equally shocked that BKK Dog got a LT for 2500. Not quite. She must have really liked him a lot, although I don't typically go to these cheaper venues. I was shocked that she was so good looking for that price though.I think it had more to do with the fact she was only 2 days in the business. When she left In the morning I gave her 2,500 + some taxi money she requested. None of this was discussed in the bar or beforehand. Only the bar fine. Coincidentally, she seems to have blocked me in line so me thinks her more experienced friend gave her shit for giving it up so cheap or being so accommodating in the sex department. Who knows what these girls discuss amongst themselves. Another possibility is a Thai boyfriend may have gotten a hold of her phone and seen our messages. She was all lovy dovy with me in line for a few hours after she left and then silent after that and her timeline view blocked. It was good fun though.
Member #4591
11-29-18, 17:53
555.
Thanks for that, and seems you have either got quite lucky, or you have chosen the right girls to do it with some how.I have my select girls in SW and Tulip that I see consistently. I never go with seasoned and hardened freelancers or take girls working on the street. I stick to Thai Friendly and look for the girls who are looking to earn a little extra cash on the side. The students and office girls. I always check the join date of the lady and choose the ones who are new to the site to contact. In the Go Go bars, I practice the same. I try to find the part timers or new girls. Remember our night out at Sharks? My girl only goes to work 7 days at most per month. I have never seen her again since. She is always off when I go back.
Is there any point to making up stories and bragging about how cheap you got it? Not for most of us. Maybe we have the odd special exception, but I doubt Elmo is that.
I am still meeting full grown American men who are adament about asserting that they "never paid for it and aren't about to start now!" LOL. Then when they succumb to the temptations in Bkk, their story must be about them getting fabulous True GFE sex from a girl who just started in the biz that afternoon, he was her first, and he paid almost nothing for it. I take it as their way of spinning an ego-saving or even ego-boosting compromise story.
I also don't see Elmo or anyone else here fitting that profile as that type of "never pay for it" guy is not likely to be on this site. And he certainly would not admit to an epic fail, which is something virtually all of us have done from time to time.
I think it had more to do with the fact she was only 2 days in the business. When she left In the morning I gave her 2,500 + some taxi money she requested. None of this was discussed in the bar or beforehand. Only the bar fine. Coincidentally, she seems to have blocked me in line so me thinks her more experienced friend gave her shit for giving it up so cheap or being so accommodating in the sex department. Who knows what these girls discuss amongst themselves. Another possibility is a Thai boyfriend may have gotten a hold of her phone and seen our messages. She was all lovy dovy with me in line for a few hours after she left and then silent after that and her timeline view blocked. It was good fun though.Sounds more like the snoopy boyfriend option to me. Don't be surprised if she pops up requesting to be added to a second Line account in 2-3 days. 2500 baht plus enough for taxi to get it sort of closer to 3000 is not so little for LT to a small Soi 7/1 bar girl that she would block you for that.
At the very least she would keep you in her stable of go-to contacts for times when she is not working in a bar. That is when a reliable 3000 baht or so will really come in handy. And there is always that emergency rent or lost phone bill you can help her pay now that the two of you have established more than a mere customer and bargirl relationship. They don't block and cut off that for the sake of a 500 baht difference in payment here and there. Hehe. Even if you have a hardfast rule to never pay for those things, she doesn't know about that rule yet.
I am still meeting full grown American men who are adament about asserting that they "never paid for it and aren't about to start now!" LOL. Personally I would rather just pay for sex than get into complications of "dating". Okay To have a Gik that does not get paid, if it is clear that she wants the meeting mainly for sex purposes equally well (and has a proper BF else where).
I have GF already and one is more than enough. If I should lose her, don't want a new one. Too much effort to get used to a new girl. I don't mind if girl likes the sex and needs a bit of money help as well, for the semi-hooker types.
I think his refusal to "give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was" says all we need to know about his story. If he wants to be believed, let him PM Bkkdog or Eih Toooms, for example, since they tried to find Pap, with the detail so they can verify her existence and confirm what he posted. Otherwise, his post is no more than a Penthouse Forum tale.I have gone ahead and PM-ed Bkkdog with the details of the bar that I remember. I hope he is able to track this gal down and have an equally amazing time as I did. Probably one of the best sessions of my life.
The only condition was that I asked Bkkdog to not share any of the club details with Jimmy Boy.
On a more positive note, I again urge folks to read, and actually follow, the great suggestions that BKK Dog posted back on Nov 24.If my memory serves me correctly, MonkeyPow convers most of it in his "game plan" before. I just want to say this, be careful when you are generous with a girl, half of the time she will take advantage of you without giving you much in return.
Coincidentally, she seems to have blocked me in line so me thinks her more experienced friend gave her shit for giving it up so cheap or being so accommodating in the sex department. Who knows what these girls discuss amongst themselves. Another possibility is a Thai boyfriend may have gotten a hold of her phone and seen our messages. She was all lovy dovy with me in line for a few hours after she left and then silent after that and her timeline view blocked. It was good fun though.Or she saw that you posted pictures of her on this forum.
Member #4591
11-30-18, 13:44
Or she saw that you posted pictures of her on this forum.I doubt a new girl 2 days in the business that speaks very little English would know where to find our forum. Thanks for coming out though.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-30-18, 14:13
I have gone ahead and PM-ed Bkkdog with the details of the bar that I remember. I hope he is able to track this gal down and have an equally amazing time as I did. Probably one of the best sessions of my life.
The only condition was that I asked Bkkdog to not share any of the club details with Jimmy Boy.
Snip. In all honesty, I do feel sorry for Pap. She struck me as such a sweet naive gal and so fun. But I can just see her in 2-3 years, after having been with hundreds of guys, turning into a jaded bar hag. And that makes me feel sad for her. Snip.Very good. However, you are not depriving me of anything by asking Bkkdog to withhold the info from me as: I am more of an oily guy, and not into the buy me a drink gogo bar scene, so I don't generally bar fine gogo girls; assuming her experience with you hasn't driven her out of the business, her colleagues at the gogo bar will have informed her of the mistakes she made with you, and neither Bkkdog or anyone else will ever get the deal you got; and, as I doubt it will take 2-3 years for her to turn into a "jaded bar hag", she will probably be one by the time I get back to Bangkok.
Of course, since Bkkdog said "Let's be clear on this. I don't have any plan of verifying his story. I just want to fuck Pap LOL. ", we still won't know if you story is true. LOL.
However, I do wish that Bkkdog would confirm the most unbelievable part of your story: that you can get a beer, order five lady drinks, and pay a bar fine and only get charged a total of 1250 baht at that bar.
Wondering if any BM's have stopped by the new Camel Toe club venue, which recently just opened in Pattaya. From their website, they open at 1 pm and are geared towards mongers who prefer to do their thing during daylight and early evening hours. They are located a bit away from central Pattaya but it does not seem too far away. I like the fact that they claim to play 60's to 80's music at lower volumes and offer food; not to mention the ladies in a relaxed and less frenzied manner than the scene on Walking Street.
I am coming to Bangkok for the winter so hope to stop down there on my visits to Pattaya if reviews are good.
Banana Boi
11-30-18, 16:14
Wondering if any BM's have stopped by the new Camel Toe club venue, which recently just opened in Pattaya. From their website, they open at 1 pm and are geared towards mongers who prefer to do their thing during daylight and early evening hours. They are located a bit away from central Pattaya but it does not seem too far away. I like the fact that they claim to play 60's to 80's music at lower volumes and offer food; not to mention the ladies in a relaxed and less frenzied manner than the scene on Walking Street.
I am coming to Bangkok for the winter so hope to stop down there on my visits to Pattaya if reviews are good.You're posting this in the wrong thread but Camel Toe is not new or even close to new. I have been many times as it is part of my Pattaya G club route. Don't expect top Pattaya gogo quality girls. Don't even expect top Soi 6 girls. Most girls are older. A couple may be ok in their late 20's. Girls are friendly here. Yes, they play music from before I was born. Drinks are cheap. DFK and sometimes HJ after you buy a girl a lady drink which doesn't happen often for me. There are much better G clubs in Pattaya. You can read some of my posts there I won't repeat here since this is the Bangkok thread.
Franciscass
11-30-18, 16:17
However, I do wish that Bkkdog would confirm the most unbelievable part of your story: that you can get a beer, order five lady drinks, and pay a bar fine and only get charged a total of 1250 baht at that bar.Getting a beer 5 lady drinks and paying the bar fine for 1250 , not at the larger popular go gos but just maybe possible at one of the smaller bars. Bar fine 500, lady drinks 120 and a beer for 150 adds up to 1250. Also possible cashier made a mistake.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-30-18, 21:56
Getting a beer 5 lady drinks and paying the bar fine for 1250 , not at the larger popular go gos but just maybe possible at one of the smaller bars. Bar fine 500, lady drinks 120 and a beer for 150 adds up to 1250. Also possible cashier made a mistake.That is possible, but it would be probably be the first time a cashier made a mistake that favors the client.
Member #4591
11-30-18, 23:15
If my memory serves me correctly, MonkeyPow convers most of it in his "game plan" before. I just want to say this, be careful when you are generous with a girl, half of the time she will take advantage of you without giving you much in return.
Number 2, be generous. You can be generous with the ladies without being a push over. Buy lady drinks for her and a select few of her friends. Tip small amounts but do it consistently. This goes a long way. Face is very important in Thai culture. These girls become proud if they bring a good customer into the bar or massage shop. If your actions give the lady good face in front of their peers, they will reward you in the bedroom. Don't be the Keneow (stingy) customer. In the massage shop, give a big tip once and while. You will be talked about amongst the ladies. The next time you go in, your chosen lady will most likely know who you are and go the extra mile to make you happy. I love the girls who when you ask how much, they say up to you. Does anyone know why they say that? It is because you have done all the right things up to that point and they feel comfortable and secure with you to go with the flow. These girls will never ask you how much you will pay and are happy receiving a fair amount the next morning or after your session. Once, during a night of partying at Sharks in Soi Cowboy, I spent 800 Baht on 4 large pizzas for the staff and girls in the bar. Needless to say, I had a complete and 100% genuine GFE from my lady that night. Pure BBFS, CIP, CIM, and multiple pops. No mention of a condom whatsoever. On another occasion I took the girl LT from a Go Go bar to Above Eleven roof top bar. I only spent 1,500 baht on a few cocktails. Back in my room, she commented on how I was such a gentlemen and took care of her very well. Needless to say, she fucked my brains out in the room BB and let me cum in her pussy. I have a really hot 22 year old Vietnamese girl I see often. I posted about her already on ISG in the foreign working girls thread. She has to be one of the hottest Asian girls I have ever been with. More about her later but my generosity and politeness paid off in the end.
I dont know what MPs success rate is at getting girls to do what he wants. He mostly talks about how his game is number 1 and he gets to be with the top rated girls in the bars. But his “Game Plan” as you so call it, in my opinion, will get you the top rated girls but it wont get you what you want in the bedroom on a consistent basis. Show me a punter who can get the top rated girls and get them to do everything that he wants in the bedroom such as BBFS, CIP, CIM and so on and then I will listen to him. I am 80% of my way there but haven't reached that 100% success rate yet but I am having fun trying and getting what I want most of the time.
About you, I do know that you didnt read my post. Without being a pushover is the key word in my post. If you follow this advice, you will be far more sussessful than not. I would say that I have an 80% + success rate on getting what I want by following my methods. Its not full proof but what you are saying is such common sense. Of course if you are too generous and overly stupid , there is a chance you will be taken advantage of. Keep your whits about you and dont be a pushover. Know when to say no but do it politely and show the girl some respect when doing it so she does not lose face in front of her piers and the other staff and ladies.
Member #4591
12-01-18, 00:09
How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing. If you say no too often, she will think you are a cheap charlie. On the other hand, if you say yes to every request, you will be seen as the naive tourist. What I do is quite simple. Picture this: your sitting with your lady in the bar happily drinking, fondling, caressing and then she asks you to buy a drink for her friend or the Moma son. You cringe under your breath thinking not again. Then she asks you to buy another drink for a different Moma Son. When is it all going to end you think. Here's what I do. I comply the first 2 or 3 times. Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:
Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.
How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing...I like your topics and you explain things so well!
Just wanted to say that I use another approach that has worked well for me over the years. I typically tip the girl at the end of the session. So, when I am in the club, thinking about barfining a girl, as the requests for drinks start raining, I tell my girl that whatever additional drinks I pay will have to come from her tip.
Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:
Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price."Paak Waan Mak-Maak 555" (Such sweet bullshit). I think some of them are smart enough to see through your ploy, but it is immaterial since avoids the hard angry negative. Thais like a bit of sweet bullshit.
Girls who work "well" are trying to get customers to buy drinks for mamasan, their friends without a customer, the waitress, the manager, etc. We can't look after them all, unless we have far too much money.
These days, I just tell the girl, I buy drinks for my favourite person (s) which could be 1 or 2 girls, and if she has a friend (of no interest to me), then she can buy her friend a drink or give away her own drink commission (some do), but I have no reason to do so. I can't support the entire bar, I won't be ringing the bell. These girls know me and know I won't be so stingy when comes to pay for the sex. They get paid very fair even with bonus on occasion of having to work extra hard for my cum.
Girls get rewarded for being very useful to me, not for being a nuisance hanging around. We can't afford to set a precedent by rewarding undesirable behaviour. When would it end?
We can't afford to be too generous before we see the girl doing very well for us. This means if intending to BF, better make sure she wants to go early on, rather than getting bad news after several drinks gone.
So I agree with rewarding girls generously based on what they deliver. If we rip them off, there is little chance of a next time seeing the girl in a good mood. If the girl was crappy, then there clearly won't be a next time anyway. Guys regular in a bar will get a reputation for being stingy or generous or balanced in between. Their is definitely plenty of gossip. Even girls never fucked will have a fair idea. Mamasans will know too. Gossip may even extend to was the guy a good or lousy fuck, although maybe some girls are too shy to get into that. Does he fuck hard or too long, etc. Some girls heard exaggerated stories about me and were a bit scared or worried, later admitting to be surprised I was not like what she was expecting. Much nicer than expected of course.
Banana Boi
12-01-18, 06:15
How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing. If you say no too often, she will think you are a cheap charlie. On the other hand, if you say yes to every request, you will be seen as the naive tourist. What I do is quite simple. Picture this: your sitting with your lady in the bar happily drinking, fondling, caressing and then she asks you to buy a drink for her friend or the Moma son. You cringe under your breath thinking not again. Then she asks you to buy another drink for a different Moma Son. When is it all going to end you think. Here's what I do. I comply the first 2 or 3 times. Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:
Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.For me it's not complicated at all. I have absolutely no problem telling girls no, even my regular girls. I just tell the girl I don't buy drinks for mamasans and her sisters. I tell her be careful who she introduces me to because if I do buy another girl a drink that likely means I like the other girl more than her. She comes to a quick conclusion that introducing me to new girls may mean no drinks for her so that 'buy my sister a drink crap' ends pretty quickly.
Just wanted to say that I use another approach that has worked well for me over the years. I typically tip the girl at the end of the session. So, when I am in the club, thinking about barfining a girl, as the requests for drinks start raining, I tell my girl that whatever additional drinks I pay will have to come from her tip.
Agree. If the girl knows she is even getting a small 100 or 200 baht tip after she sits with you she is less inclined to order another drink. I have tipped girls 500 and 1000 baht in the bar before if I am there most of the night. One gogo girl even starting crying after the tip. Not because of the money but because it showed her I really liked her and no one ever gave her a 1000 baht tip in the bar for no real reason before. Worked out for me in the long run as I got many free dates with her after that. Had to eventually break her heart when I told her I didn't want to be her boyfriend and she saw me liking another girl at the same bar more. The new girl is my current #1 gogo girl and imo no one is even close.
HorseTrader
12-01-18, 06:39
Am I the only one who has walked out after agreeing to a hotel session because the girl pushed too hard for tips and drinks for other girls, mamasans, and waitresses?
The total amount of money involved probably isn't much, but I hate feeling like an ATM.
I doubt a new girl 2 days in the business that speaks very little English would know where to find our forum. Thanks for coming out though.I agree. However the other more experienced girls in the bar might know this forum.
Member #4591
12-01-18, 12:01
I agree. However the other more experienced girls in the bar might know this forum.Ok we get it. You are one of those members who does not like when others post photos of the girls. I don't care. Sorry to say. It's your preference.
Am I the only one who has walked out after agreeing to a hotel session because the girl pushed too hard for tips and drinks for other girls, mamasans, and waitresses?
The total amount of money involved probably isn't much, but I hate feeling like an ATM.No, you're not the only one.
I took only one girl out of a bar in soi Cowboy and it was a girl from Suzie Wong. I went to see her many times in a week but the money I was spending on her was getting higher each time. She charged me only 2000 baht for a solid ST and 700 BF but the last bill was around 4400 baht just because of these ladydrinks (for her and waitresses). It was the only reason I stooped going there as I could find other better deals elsewhere.
Ok we get it. You are one of those members who does not like when others post photos of the girls. I don't care. Sorry to say. It's your preference.Bkkdog, I am fine with seeing photos of the girls. But here is a scenario that is not far fetched at all in my experience from times when I used to just give names and locations of girls on boards like these, not even posting photos. There are the occasional White Knights lurking on these boards who may decide it is their mission to inform a girl they recognize, have been with before, want to warn she has been reported to engage in BBFS on the internet and so on. That latter part was a particular issue with me since I was always quite upfront on boards like these about that level of service being key to any positive review I would give a girl other than when it was all about a BJ.
Add to which some of us from time to time find ourselves the target of a weird grudge fixation by someone for reasons that often aren't even related to the general topic at hand.
Not saying that is what happened this time with your Soi 7/1 girl. I would still go with the snoopy boyfriend explanation. However, it has happened with me before and could quite likely happen again within 2-3 hours of me naming names and locations (never mind photos) that some dude with a weird grudge against me and/or against my predeliction for BBFS or a White Knight who also happened to have barfined or knew that girl would be on her phone or Line to tell her about it asap.
Again, not saying that is what happened this time. But the possibility that someone else here has met and knows a girl working in any bar well enough to already have contact info for her and his own reason to send her an interesting "message" about what was said about her online is not as farfetched as I wish it were.
Getting a beer 5 lady drinks and paying the bar fine for 1250 , not at the larger popular go gos but just maybe possible at one of the smaller bars. Bar fine 500, lady drinks 120 and a beer for 150 adds up to 1250. Also possible cashier made a mistake.As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.
Your right as I did post in wrong thread. Probably because I will be staying in Bangkok and making sporadic trips to Pattaya.
No wonder why I couldn't find any responses to my inquiry in the Pattaya thread LOL. As far as the ladies go, I was not terribly impressed by the photos on their website but I like the DFK for price of a LD. Will check out your reviews of gclubs in the Pattaya thread.
You're posting this in the wrong thread but Camel Toe is not new or even close to new. I have been many times as it is part of my Pattaya G club route. Don't expect top Pattaya gogo quality girls. Don't even expect top Soi 6 girls. Most girls are older. A couple may be ok in their late 20's. Girls are friendly here. Yes, they play music from before I was born. Drinks are cheap. DFK and sometimes HJ after you buy a girl a lady drink which doesn't happen often for me. There are much better G clubs in Pattaya. You can read some of my posts there I won't repeat here since this is the Bangkok thread.
Franciscass
12-02-18, 01:13
As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.If that is how it went down 1250 for drinks only could be at any bar on the strip.
As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.Or is it nauseum ad tedium? Anyway dude, you are the master of it big-time! I myself have a more plausible theory: Elmo was high AF from some lethal shit that he copped in a Rocky Mountain high dispensary and stashed in his boxers for the flight over to LOS. That's why he can't remember notting about that night except that he was able to empty his Rocky Mountain oysters into a delectable bar girl! Case closed!
Or is it nauseum ad tedium? Anyway dude, you are the master of it big-time! I myself have a more plausible theory: Elmo was high AF from some lethal shit that he copped in a Rocky Mountain high dispensary and stashed in his boxers for the flight over to LOS. That's why he can't remember notting about that night except that he was able to empty his Rocky Mountain oysters into a delectable bar girl! Case closed!! 555.LOL. So you would rather at least two other posters puzzle over how on earth Elmo or anyone else could have paid for about 5 Lady Drinks, his drink AND a Soi Cowboy go-go barfine with just 1250 baht than have someone simply point out they apparently missed the part about Elmo paying the girl 1000 baht separately? I didn't have to piece that together by connecting imaginary dots. Elmo mentioned that in at least two different posts.
Whenever we need more support and encouragement for misinformation, we'll be sure to call on you to post again.
Bkkdog, I am fine with seeing photos of the girls. But here is a scenario that is not far fetched at all in my experience from times when I used to just give names and locations of girls on boards like these, not even posting photos. There are the occasional White Knights lurking on these boards who may decide it is their mission to inform a girl they recognize, have been with before, want to warn she has been reported to engage in BBFS on the internet and so on. That latter part was a particular issue with me since I was always quite upfront on boards like these about that level of service being key to any positive review I would give a girl other than when it was all about a BJ.Don't worry, I don't know the girl and I will not go to her bar and inform her next time when I'm in BKK. And by the way: I'm a lover of BBFS myself.
I was merely pointing out a possible reason why she suddenly blocked him in Line, that's all. But he's taking it personally and I think I know why.
Ok we get it. You are one of those members who does not like when others post photos of the girls. I don't care. Sorry to say. It's your preference.As I already said I was merely pointing out a possible reason why she suddenly blocked you in Line, that's all.
But I'm indeed not a big fan of photos and I think the BMs who upload them should at least have the decency to make the girls as unrecognizable as possible. Especially when the photos are accompanied by a detailed report of the session they had with her.
But hey, if you don't care: why don't you post some pictures of yourself too?
Don't worry, I don't know the girl and I will not go to her bar and inform her next time when I'm in BKK. And by the way: I'm a lover of BBFS myself.
I was merely pointing out a possible reason why she suddenly blocked him in Line, that's all. But he's taking it personally and I think I know why.Mogwai, I was not referring to you as someone who would do that. And I was only offering what has happened to me in the past and why I don't give out specifics as another possibility.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-02-18, 14:08
LOL. So you would rather at least two other posters puzzle over how on earth Elmo or anyone else could have paid for about 5 Lady Drinks, his drink AND a Soi Cowboy go-go barfine with just 1250 baht than have someone simply point out they apparently missed the part about Elmo paying the girl 1000 baht separately? I didn't have to piece that together by connecting imaginary dots. Elmo mentioned that in at least two different posts. Snip.
As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.You seem to be missing the point that Elmo said Pap would go with him for 1,000 baht, which he paid directly to her, in advance, as her ST fee, not the bar fine. He did not pay her any money at the hotel. He also paid the 1250 tab to the bar. So, per his account, he paid a total of 2,250 for a beer, 5 lady drinks, bar fine, and ST fee for Pap.
It seems to me that there are only two options: 1) if his account is correct, then he is one lucky bastard; or 2) if what you say is correct (that the 1,000 baht he gave her was for the bar fine and not her ST fee), then he is a real bastard who stiffed Pap by not paying her for her services after she provided such good service that he was still jacking off to her the next day.
You seem to be missing the point that Elmo said Pap would go with him for 1,000 baht, which he paid directly to her, in advance, as her ST fee, not the bar fine. He did not pay her any money at the hotel. He also paid the 1250 tab to the bar. So, per his account, he paid a total of 2,250 for a beer, 5 lady drinks, bar fine, and ST fee for Pap.
It seems to me that there are only two options: 1) if his account is correct, then he is one lucky bastard; or 2) if what you say is correct (that the 1,000 baht he gave her was for the bar fine and not her ST fee), then he is a real bastard who stiffed Pap by not paying her for her services after she provided such good service that he was still jacking off to her the next day.I was not trying to justify, excuse or even understand what Elmo thought or did. I was only trying to explain what SHE clearly did with the 1,000 baht he gave her (and, therefore, why his bar tab was only 1250, to which he added another 1,000 baht); she gave that 1,000 baht to the mamasan to cover the cost of the barfine, changed her clothes and left with him. She would not have gotten past the cashier and/or the mamasan in her street clothes and walked out of that bar with a customer unless SOMEBODY had paid the barfine. And it is totally consistent with a hundred thousand barfines paid in Bangkok go-go bars that when you hand 1,000 baht to a girl and say, "I want to barfine you", that girl takes your money and pays the mamasan the cost of the barfine before she changes her clothes and prepares to leave with you.
Again, without characterizing what Elmo thought was going on or what the waitress said to him and how she said it, it is impossible to read the account of it any other way. He uses the word 'barfine" liberally throughout his report regarding Baccara and the bar Pap worked in. He mentions the "barfine" in Baccara and understands very well that payment is different from the amount the girl expects to be paid. That has not changed in the go-go bars since 2008 and did not change from one night to the next when he went from a bad experience in Baccara to a good one in Pap's bar. So it is quite clear that he knew a barfine would have to be paid by somebody before Pap could change her clothes and leave the bar. How or why he could have thought the separate barfine cost was waved by Pap's bar, that she wouldn't have to pay it out of the 1,000 baht he gave her, not to mention what Pap really said to the waitress about what she would need to go with him (get the barfine money from him for starters), is anybody's guess.
Ultimately, it seemed Pap was revving up to ask for or get her money from him afterwards but whatever it was the Thai guy said outside apparently spooked her off the moment and she just walked away from him. As weird as that part was, I don't see that as a blatant attempt on Elmo's part to deny her a ST fee unless there is something more to the story than that. I suspect if Pap had turned to him at that moment and said, "You give me 2,500 baht, honey?", he would probably have done it without making a scene.
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Drinks and bar fine total came to about 1500B (don't remember the exact breakdown, but think bar fine was 600-800 B). She wanted 3,000B for 1 hour ST or 6,000B for LT - of only 4 hours!! Never heard of LT of only 4 hours, plus was not willing to pay so much without knowing if I was going to get GFE or a dud. Given our chemistry, was hopeful for GFE, but was starting to get a little concerned.
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NIGHT 2: I wanted to visit the following bars that I had not tried the night before. Cowboy 2; Dollhouse; and Shark. Slowly walked down Soi Cowboy looking at the girls out front, looking for hot young spinners.
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After finishing her Lady drink, she gets up and goes to dance on a small stage on the far side of the bar. It was apparently her turn to dance there. Waitress, who saw the confused look on my face, asks what is wrong. I mention that I was hoping to bar fine Pap, but she just left to go dance. Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for 1,0000B. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at. I buy the waitress another lady drink, get two lady drinks for Pap, and she proceeds to dance extra sexy just for me. After a bit, I say okay, let's go. I give her the 1000B and she goes and changes. Waitress gives me a bill for 1250B on the drinks. I give her 1500B and she tries to have me let her keep the change. I play dumb as to what she is trying to do, and say bill is 1250B and I gave her 1500B and need my change. Waitress returns my change, I give the waitress 50B and she is very happy and gives me a kiss. She says "Good lover for Pap. You go with Pap every night" before walking away. Wow!
Pap comes back, dressed in street clothes. A tiny pair of shorts and a short little shirt. Looking like one of the cutest teens I have ever seen.
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I say, hey I will walk you out of the hotel, thinking she would get lost on the way. I quickly get dressed and we leave arm in arm. She has no idea where to go, so I lead her to the elevator, down to the lobby, and out the front door. The whole time she is rubbing my arm, kissing my hand and reaching up and kissing my cheek. We turn down the street back towards Soi cowboy, and I notice 3 thai guys behind us who had been coming down the street. One of them says something. Pap immediately stops, lets go of my hand and then walks off. I look back at the 3 thai guys, but they turn around and quickly walk off in the opposite direction. Not sure what they said. I watch Pap walk away, thinking that could just be a gorgeous young girl that I fantasize about as I pass her on the street. But, instead I just had 2 plus hours of great bareback sex with her. Pap never looks bad.
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Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.
I told the waitress I would bar fine Pap. (This was after the waitress found out for me that Pap would go with me if I paid Pap 1,000 baht and if I got Pap 2 more lady drinks. I had already bought Pap 1 lady drink, so that is why I believe I bought Pap a total of 3 lady drinks, plus the 2 lady drinks for the waitress -1st one soon after I started talking to her, and the 2nd for the waitress when she returned with the price info on Pap. I agreed to all of this: 2 more lady drinks for Pap, plus 1 000 baht, which I assumed would be ST. When I was ready to leave with Pap, after having only 1 beer, and declining a 2nd Singha, the waitress gave me a bill of 1,250 baht. I paid it with a 1,000 note and a 500 note. As I reported, waitress tried to get me to let her keep the change. I played dumb. Waitress returned with my 250 baht change and I gave her 50 baht tip. So total cost paid to waitress was 1,300 baht.
At the bar, while the waitress was getting my change, I rolled a 1,000 baht note up and put it in Pap's halter top, between her lovely little breasts. So I gave Pap the 1,000 baht she had asked for. Pap then went an changed into a pair of short shorts and a small shirt. We then walked back to my deluxe room at the Pullman.
So total cost that night for a 2 pop ST was 2,300 baht. Was probably with her for 90 minutes or so, just a guess.
Member #4591
12-02-18, 16:13
So Elmo paid this and then ended up getting that and maybe he's full of shit or maybe he got lucky. 1250 and 1000 and then .........
Oh wait, excuse me young lady. May I buy you a drink? Did you know you have a really nice ass? How long have you worked here? May I say you are really stunning? Oh, you have to go dance now. Will you go topless? Can you shoot ping pong balls out your pussy? I'd pay to see that. What? You want me to buy a drink for your friend, her friend, and her friend's cousine? Sure why not. Ok now I want to barfine you. How much for LT? 20,000 baht? WTF! Well maybe that's ok but what will you do for me? Can I fuck you BB? Can I cum in your pussy? Can I fuck your ass? If I'm going to pay that much, you must perform for me! Oh wait! Is that a nose job? Fuck, I can't bar fine you now. Oh and by the way, I've got game. I have fucked the top rated Go go girls in Bangkok and Pattaya. You must go with me for free now. Be careful though. My seduction techniques include spiders and snakes. Oh and don't be shy. I'm going to post all your photos on a sex forum. Shit, where am I? What the hell! Must have been a nightmare. LT 20,000 Baht? Fuck, I remember when LT was 200 Baht, the girls would lick my ass, fuck me BB, let me cum in their pussies, and give me a blow job right their in the bar. Those were the good old days! The hell with Thailand. Fuck MP and BKK dog for driving up the prices. I'll show them. I'll move to Cambodia. Wait a minute. What's all this talk of BB Sex? Do you know that's dangerous? Are you following BKK Dog? Hey, don't lecture me. I train my girls. They know not to drink their LDs too fast. Really? Well Noi on Soi 6 gives a great BBJ but after fucking 10 girls in less than a day, I still can't cum. She scammed me again! Why can't she be more sensitive to my needs? Fucking star fish! If I see her again, I'll look the other way. Hey baby, can I bar fine you again? What? Shit, again? Where is my 40 year old virgin Thai GF? She can make me cum in a heartbeat. What the hell did I tell you? Don't buy premium!
Just another day on ISG......
So Elmo paid this and then ended up getting that and maybe he's full of shit or maybe he got lucky. 1250 and 1000 and then .........
Oh wait, excuse me young lady. May I buy you a drink? Did you know you have a really nice ass? How long have you worked here? May I say you are really stunning? Oh, you have to go dance now. Will you go topless? Can you shoot ping pong balls out your pussy? I'd pay to see that. What? You want me to buy a drink for your friend, her friend, and her friend's cousine? Sure why not. Ok now I want to barfine you. How much for LT? 20,000 baht? WTF! Well maybe that's ok but what will you do for me? Can I fuck you BB? Can I cum in your pussy? Can I fuck your ass? If I'm going to pay that much, you must perform for me! Oh wait! Is that a nose job? Fuck, I can't bar fine you now. Oh and by the way, I've got game. I have fucked the top rated Go go girls in Bangkok and Pattaya. You must go with me for free now. Be careful though. My seduction techniques include spiders and snakes. Oh and don't be shy. I'm going to post all your photos on a sex forum. Shit, where am I? What the hell! Must have been a nightmare. LT 20,000 Baht? Fuck, I remember when LT was 200 Baht, the girls would lick my ass, fuck me BB, let me cum in their pussies, and give me a blow job right their in the bar. Those were the good old days! The hell with Thailand. Fuck MP and BKK dog for driving up the prices. I'll show them. I'll move to Cambodia. Wait a minute. What's all this talk of BB Sex? Do you know that's dangerous? Are you following BKK Dog? Hey, don't lecture me. I train my girls. They know not to drink their LDs too fast. Really? Well Noi on Soi 6 gives a great BBJ but after fucking 10 girls in less than a day, I still can't cum. She scammed me again! Why can't she be more sensitive to my needs? Fucking star fish! If I see her again, I'll look the other way. Hey baby, can I bar fine you again? What? Shit, again? Where is my 40 year old virgin Thai GF? She can make me cum in a heartbeat. What the hell did I tell you? Don't buy premium!
Just another day on ISG......I laughed so hard I have tears in my eyes. You have a talent my friend!
Jimmy Boy 99
12-02-18, 18:30
Bkkdog.
Too funny! LOL.
Eih Tooms.
You're certainly making the case for Elmo deliberately stiffing Pap since he didn't pay her in the hotel when the session was finished, which is standard procedure. He was going to pay her in the middle of the street but some Thai guys just happened to show up and scare her off before he could pay her? Talk about luck! He couldn't go back to the bar to give her the money he owed her if he was serious about paying her?
Since we don't what the fuck happened (if anything at all happened), a possible scenario: Elmo is pissed about the previous night's bad session, so is going to make up for it. He promises Pap who knows how much to go with him and do all that she did. He pays the bar tab and the bar fine. At the end of the session, he says that he doesn't have enough cash to pay her and he needs to go to an ATM with her to get the cash. Before they get to the ATM some of his Thai buddies show up and threaten Pap, who runs off without the money.
Ridiculous? Maybe, but not much more so than his story.
In any event, I have wasted too much time on Elmo's story and will desist from commenting any more on this.
Member #4591
12-02-18, 18:38
Bkkdog.
Too funny! LOL.
Eih Tooms.
You're certainly............
In any event, I have wasted too much time on Elmo's story and will desist from commenting any more on this..........Really?
Some people just don't get it.
I can’t catch a break! I guess I better book a smooci girl and shut the fuck up.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-03-18, 00:19
Really?
Some people just don't get it.
I cant catch a break! I guess I better book a smooci girl and shut the fuck up.Sorry, I wanted to get a last comment in before the ban went into effect. Mum's the word. :)
So Elmo paid this and then ended up getting that and maybe he's full of shit or maybe he got lucky. 1250 and 1000 and then .........
Oh wait, excuse me young lady. May I buy you a drink? Did you know you have a really nice ass? How long have you worked here? May I say you are really stunning? Oh, you have to go dance now. Will you go topless? Can you shoot ping pong balls out your pussy? I'd pay to see that. What? You want me to buy a drink for your friend, her friend, and her friend's cousine? Sure why not. Ok now I want to barfine you. How much for LT? 20,000 baht? WTF! Well maybe that's ok but what will you do for me? Can I fuck you BB? Can I cum in your pussy? Can I fuck your ass? If I'm going to pay that much, you must perform for me! Oh wait! Is that a nose job? Fuck, I can't bar fine you now. Oh and by the way, I've got game. I have fucked the top rated Go go girls in Bangkok and Pattaya. You must go with me for free now. Be careful though. My seduction techniques include spiders and snakes. Oh and don't be shy. I'm going to post all your photos on a sex forum. Shit, where am I? What the hell! Must have been a nightmare. LT 20,000 Baht? Fuck, I remember when LT was 200 Baht, the girls would lick my ass, fuck me BB, let me cum in their pussies, and give me a blow job right their in the bar. Those were the good old days! The hell with Thailand. Fuck MP and BKK dog for driving up the prices. I'll show them. I'll move to Cambodia. Wait a minute. What's all this talk of BB Sex? Do you know that's dangerous? Are you following BKK Dog? Hey, don't lecture me. I train my girls. They know not to drink their LDs too fast. Really? Well Noi on Soi 6 gives a great BBJ but after fucking 10 girls in less than a day, I still can't cum. She scammed me again! Why can't she be more sensitive to my needs? Fucking star fish! If I see her again, I'll look the other way. Hey baby, can I bar fine you again? What? Shit, again? Where is my 40 year old virgin Thai GF? She can make me cum in a heartbeat. What the hell did I tell you? Don't buy premium!
Just another day on ISG......LO fucking L.
He was going to pay her in the middle of the street but some Thai guys just happened to show up and scare her off before he could pay her? Talk about luck! Thai guys in street bullshit. Unlikely to have any relevancy whatsoever, just a misinterpretation by Elmo most likely, as to why the girl left him very suddenly. She was probably pissed off. Did she know them? Possible? Who cares? Is it going to cause her to forgo getting paid unless was her brother (unlikely). We know he had no intention to pay her more money. His 1K up front covered it. Ha ha. Bottom of the barrel street walker price with no BF.
Mis-communication, misinterpretation, misdirection, etc.
I would never post such am implausible story and forget the bar, and probably get the girl's name wrong as well, nor try to trigger a stampede for the girl, best value bargirl since 2008. His one post has triggered such a massive debate. Why do that? Better not to reveal what you paid, and not mention Thai guys on the street. Lots of drinks and then stingy for the sex price. Seems unbalanced. I would not post how many drinks I bought and what I paid for them (and not know the drinks price each). On entering a bar, I always take an early peek at the bill to find out if Lady Drinks are 170 or 200 or even more than 200 in some places. I then usually notice the count of lady drinks so does not get too silly. Obviously also ask the Barfine costs. This means I prefer to stay cold sober too.
All these things would not happen with a regular guy here. So a tourist visitor knows no better and thought all the prices made sense?
Steve 9696
12-03-18, 03:51
As I am in Pussy Prison USA for a couple months, can I respectfully ask you to stop discussing Elmo and the mythical girl and instead go fuck some fine Thai pussy? Do it for me. Do it for the team. You will be lauded with praise for your heroic actions. Please stop typing and go fuck a girl. Thank you.
As I am in Pussy Prison USA for a couple months, can I respectfully ask you to stop discussing Elmo and the mythical girl and instead go fuck some fine Thai pussy? Do it for me. Do it for the team. You will be lauded with praise for your heroic actions. Please stop typing and go fuck a girl. Thank you.The moderators don't like guys discouraging others from posting. I have been warned myself about the same. Meanwhile I am stuck in a place with no access to Thai pussy also. Temporary "monk". I wonder how many weeks I can go with no sex.
If you don't like a post, you don't have to read it, and you can tell not to read already by the handle at the top. If only I had something more useful to post, and likewise for you. Reading other fuck posts, is not going to help me at all, especially if they don't even seem real.
Miscommunications in a bar is a perfectly fine topic in my view. It is a mongering topic. Yes, has been done to death.
Banana Boi
12-03-18, 09:38
In town tonight. Just read through a few pages and found no reviews at all. Just squabbling over Tickle me Elmo. Trying to decide between Thermae or Patpong / Thaniya road. Any recent info from anyone?
The moderators don't like guys discouraging others from posting. I have been warned myself about the same.Syzy, I don't think the moderators care or are paying much attention to that lately. We have had a rash of posters who try very hard to prevent other posters from posting, denigrate what they post, talk trash about how they post, more or less urge them not to post, openly urge others to ignore their posts and so on. And they seem to repeat that behavior over and over without any evidence of moderator intervention.
I have had a post deleted in the past by Admin because it was thought to be "Largely argumentative, etc." But I see many other such posts quite often these days and they are not deleted and are instead allowed to remain in the thread just fine, unedited and untouched.
In town tonight. Just read through a few pages and found no reviews at all. Just squabbling over Tickle me Elmo. Trying to decide between Thermae or Patpong / Thaniya road. Any recent info from anyone?Here is the most recent bar review I found in this thread, 3 1/2 pages back:
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Got to say as I looked at every girl in the line ups at Cowboy 2 and The Dollhouse last night I sure did not see one girl who exuded anything but a rather hardened and jaded demeanor where the possibility of them walking away and forgetting to get paid after the sex was about as likely as one tossing me her only smartphone and saying "You can keep it, I'm bored with it."However, it is a review of a couple of Soi Cowboy go-go bar line ups and not for the venues you mentioned.
Member #4591
12-03-18, 13:39
In town tonight. Just read through a few pages and found no reviews at all. Just squabbling over Tickle me Elmo. Trying to decide between Thermae or Patpong / Thaniya road. Any recent info from anyone?My review on Soi 7/1 was buried amongst all that nonsense. Search my posts and you will see it. Tickle me Elmo. I love it!!! Here it it for you and there are photos too.
I just wasn't feeling Soi Cowboy last night and figured if I went to Nana, it would just be the same thing. Then I remember chatting with a young girl on Thai Friendly who worked at a small bar on Soi 7/1. I went to check it out. As you walk down the Soi on your right hand side you will see 2 massage shops, just around a short bend in the Soi. Next will be 2 small bars. I spotted this cute as seen in my photos below. Turns out she was only 2 days in the business. I spoke with her in my broken Thai and her friend / co-worker translated what she didn't understand. To make a long story short, 2,500 in drinks for me and the two girls, flirting, joking and making future plans to go clubbing together at levels. A great night at a little hole in the wall on Soi 7. 1 ended with be barfining her for 500 Baht and 2,500 LT. A real true GFE in the sense of everything including my finishing inside.
The photo of her last night in the bar is tje one with her wearing my sun glasses and the other 2 are taken from her line. I love Bangkok!
Nana and Soi Cowboy are full of girls with no customers. There have been tons of girls out on the soi and in front of the bars trying to push customers inside but inside no customers.
Banana Boi
12-03-18, 17:58
Thanks guys. My night was a complete bust due to stomach pains. No session only some boring commentary.
Arrived at thermae at 830. Thermae was decent. Didn't really start filling up with girls until 930. Lots of new faces for me and a couple wouldn't stop pestering me. Luckily they were pretty decent looking. One of the best girls there shot down 5 guys both Asian and farang until she settled with a tall handsum Korean in his 20's. Oddly she seemed smiley at me maybe because I was laughing watching her reject guys. If not for my stomach issues I would have made an attempt to go with her too.
Saw about 10 farang. Can't blame the girls for not going with them. Some looked like they were staying in a khaosan road hostel. Others were wearing tank tops. One was burping as he walked past the girls. They looked disgusted. Since I couldn't do anything decided to leave just before 10.
Decided to walk to 7/1. My first ever fly by of wood and chrome. I wasn't expecting much for looks but thought if one was OK I'd do it because I never had before. I expected old hags. Tbh some were at least in late 20's. They were screaming for my attention. I was the only guy on the entire soi. I didn't see anyone worth trying. Did see a decent petite girl at one of the bars. Noticed most were ladyboy bars but this bar had a decent girl. Likely a mistake but I decided to go see my hostess girl at kc1.
Kc1 kind of sucked. Lots of girls but maybe only 1 or 2 there. I really only hang out with my hostess girl. I think miss universe thailand walked by. It was pure mayhem as she stopped in front of kc1. Gogo girls all ran outside to take photos.
Sorry for the long winded non review. Waiting for my ex thermae regular to Line me. If not I will get some much needed sleep.
Steve 9696
12-04-18, 00:36
Thanks guys. My night was a complete bust due to stomach pains. No session only some boring commentary.
Arrived at thermae at 830. Thermae was decent. Didn't really start filling up with girls until 930. Lots of new faces for me and a couple wouldn't stop pestering me. Luckily they were pretty decent looking. One of the best girls there shot down 5 guys both Asian and farang until she settled with a tall handsum Korean in his 20's. Oddly she seemed smiley at me maybe because I was laughing watching her reject guys. If not for my stomach issues I would have made an attempt to go with her too.
Saw about 10 farang. Can't blame the girls for not going with them. Some looked like they were staying in a khaosan road hostel. Others were wearing tank tops. One was burping as he walked past the girls. They looked disgusted. Since I couldn't do anything decided to leave just before 10.
Decided to walk to 7/1. My first ever fly by of wood and chrome. I wasn't expecting much for looks but thought if one was OK I'd do it because I never had before. I expected old hags. Tbh some were at least in late 20's. They were screaming for my attention. I was the only guy on the entire soi. I didn't see anyone worth trying. Did see a decent petite girl at one of the bars. Noticed most were ladyboy bars but this bar had a decent girl. Likely a mistake but I decided to go see my hostess girl at kc1.
Kc1 kind of sucked. Lots of girls but maybe only 1 or 2 there. I really only hang out with my hostess girl. I think miss universe thailand walked by. It was pure mayhem as she stopped in front of kc1. Gogo girls all ran outside to take photos.
Sorry for the long winded non review. Waiting for my ex thermae regular to Line me. If not I will get some much needed sleep.Seriously your non review is much more interesting than a lot of the recent discussion. I also found your observations of that top girl interesting. There are those in various forums that argue looks, charm, being a gentleman etc don't matter. Pretty sure you observed just the opposite. Sure the lady wants money first and foremost but if she can choose, she will.
Syzy, I don't think the moderators care or are paying much attention to that lately. We have had a rash of posters who try very hard to prevent other posters from posting, denigrate what they post, talk trash about how they post, more or less urge them not to post, openly urge others to ignore their posts and so on. And they seem to repeat that behavior over and over without any evidence of moderator intervention.
I have had a post deleted in the past by Admin because it was thought to be "Largely argumentative, etc." But I see many other such posts quite often these days and they are not deleted and are instead allowed to remain in the thread just fine, unedited and untouched.While I am a moderator my work is on the other site not the international so I only use this site as a monger not a worker.
The issue you describe happens because some people are unmoderated v moderated senior members. When a person goes through the process of regular to senior member without getting on our radar their posts no longer get read by us they simply go directly live. If there is a senior who is acting like an asshole abusing people and somebody reports one of their posts then we review their last 50 posts. If they have a history of being an asshole then we put them back on moderation. Generally that happens if they have two argumentative posts in a six month period. I haven't checked but perhaps you are on moderation and the people you're speaking of are not. If they aren't then it's not a question of them being allowed to post, it's because we are unaware of what they are posting.
Then again, sometimes we fuck up and just miss some douchey shit, it happens, we look at a lot of posts.
In any event, Thailand has a fight thread, if you want to call somebody an asshole just take it to the fight thread and have a good time.
A2.
My review on Soi 7/1 was buried amongst all that nonsense. Search my posts and you will see it. Tickle me Elmo. I love it!!! Here it it for you and there are photos too.
-snip-Sure, Bkkdog, now that you have been gifted with the long sought Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine map to where and how to locate the little lady in question, I suppose you won't be posting a followup report on having found her and what the hell happened that night, right? Haha.
Thanks for nothing, you "STOP posting about that and please get back to the same reviews of the go-go bar lineups and Thermae we have been reading for years!" guys. Your timing could not have been worse.
While I am a moderator my work is on the other site not the international so I only use this site as a monger not a worker.
The issue you describe happens because some people are unmoderated v moderated senior members. When a person goes through the process of regular to senior member without getting on our radar their posts no longer get read by us they simply go directly live. If there is a senior who is acting like an asshole abusing people and somebody reports one of their posts then we review their last 50 posts. If they have a history of being an asshole then we put them back on moderation. Generally that happens if they have two argumentative posts in a six month period. I haven't checked but perhaps you are on moderation and the people you're speaking of are not. If they aren't then it's not a question of them being allowed to post, it's because we are unaware of what they are posting.
Then again, sometimes we fuck up and just miss some douchey shit, it happens, we look at a lot of posts.
In any event, Thailand has a fight thread, if you want to call somebody an asshole just take it to the fight thread and have a good time.
A2.Thanks much for the attention and followup. Very interesting. I did not know about those particulars.
While I am a moderator my work is on the other site not the international so I only use this site as a monger not a worker.
A2.Which "other site"? USA? It would be interesting to know which others are available.
While we are at it can r3 ports pre 2002 be accessed?
Crazy4Thai
12-04-18, 05:18
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in any event, thailand has a fight thread, if you want to call somebody an asshole just take it to the fight thread and have a good time.
A2.a-fucking-men.
Member #4591
12-04-18, 07:21
Sure, Bkkdog, now that you have been gifted with the long sought Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine map to where and how to locate the little lady in question, I suppose you won't be posting a followup report on having found her and what the hell happened that night, right? Haha.
Thanks for nothing, you "STOP posting about that and please get back to the same reviews of the go-go bar lineups and Thermae we have been reading for years!" guys. Your timing could not have been worse.Give me some time LOL. I will go back to Soi Cowboy next week and try to find her.
Shebas was my favourite bar till it closed. I found these old photos of Shebas girls from the mid 2000's. Not sure if you know any of them, but here they are.
I found these old photos of Shebas girls from the mid 2000's. Not sure if you know any of them, but here they are.Not sure if I was attending in those years I would have to do a search for my first Sheba report. I recognise the first girl (definitely not my taste) and maybe one other. My preference was for girls with no implants and quite slim but beautiful asses, so I don't even remember if ever did a girl from Sheba with implants. Probably not. I did take two implants girls at least from Suzie W, being Paula and Anne. I was willing to do it, it a very good job and still soft enough.
I know other guys like big tits, real or not, but for me it is much more about natural beauty shape than size, so very small is okay For me if not saggy deflated types. Maybe I will find some Sheba girl pics for later.
Just checked and found early 2000's I had a Thai girlfriend who watched me like a Hawk, and was like a detective. Was mainly attending Soapies on the sly and not much bars at all. Some bar girls mainly from Nana area. It wasn't till 2005 or 2006 that I discovered nudity was back in Cowboy in Long Gun and Suzie Wong, where nudity had been in Nana in the 1990s for a few years. Yes nudity was there in Cowboy a few years earlier than I realised, but I did not know nor join ISG until 2005 or 2006, so was blissfully unaware. My main time in Sheba would have been from about 2010 and a regular till its closure, hence did not know most of your girls. Sheba would have closed about 2013 I guess, so had not many years there.
My main time in Sheba would have been from about 2010 and a regular till its closure, hence did not know most of your girls. Sheba would have closed about 2013 I guess, so had not many years there.Those pics would have been from around 2007. That Tequila chick was skinny with small tits before she got the boob job. She was a regular in the lesbian show. The other girl with fake boobs, Jay, was kind of their "superstar" back then. She didn't look so good back in the room but she looked great on stage and was the main focus in their website at the time.
LewisCarrol
12-05-18, 10:50
I frequent many BJ bars. Until now, my favorite girl was Tik from Kasalong. Changed my opinion after visiting 7 Heaven today.
Was free in the afternoon on father's day. So thought of checking this place on Soi 33. Quite easy to spot with all the pink decor. Although marketed as a Jap place, I had no issues in getting in (I am of Indian descent). There were 4 asian customers in the lobby pre / after the session. Mamasan was quite enthusiastic. Quickly showed the ladies on menu. 10 on shift, but only 5 were available - 2 from remaining were quite cute. Chose Puppy. With Handcuffs.
Got Drink; Went up. Puppy was super cool. Girl next door types. She initiated small talk with friendly touches here and there. But was very shy / homely types, not the typical girl you see in an MP. Petite A Cup with a cute face.
Went up. The rooms are, ummm not exactly rooms. Cubicles with partitions half-way. Easy to hear what's happening on the other side. Basics as usual. A sink to wash, bed, table. Puppy went out to get her paraphernalia and came back in 3-4 minutes. We took off our clothes and then she washed and dried me well. Then asked me to lie down while she cleaned her mouth etc. Then the deed started. Very sensual nipple lick, allowed kissing too (cheeks, neck, shoulders; didn't try mouth, it's a BJ bar folks). Was followed by balls and then she handcuffed herself and took little johnny in her. I nutted within 1 min of her starting the actual BJ. Embarrassing. She took all the load in mouth peacefully, then went down to spit.
Since it quite early of 40-minutes; she asked if I want one more shot (without extra money. That's the policy of the shop). I thought won't be ready again. So said no (regretted later. As I was hard after 15 minutes just by thinking about her). She then said let me massage you for a while then. Massaged legs and back for 10 minutes. Wasn't helping much. And there was another customer in the next room with a moaning girl. So I just said let's move. She then cleaned me again, set up the room and we left.
Overall very GFE and non-mechanical experience. Would try other girls here again and puppy too.
Pros:
- Many girls are young, cute and good looking unlike other BJ bars where 50% are old and 50% fat.
- No rush (YMMV and maybe depends on the girl, time of day but experience here was good).
- If you shoot early, they give you another shot for free (else 300 be extra for another shot).
Cons:
- Not very private, if that's what you want.
- No line-up, you only get to see girls on iPad. However, pics are accurate (in fact puppy looked better).
Overall: WIR.
Damages - 1300 (BJ, 40-minutes) + 300 (Hand-cuffs) + 100 Tip.
P.S. : Apologies for bad pics; did the best I could. Will give you some sense of the room and girl.
Member #4591
12-05-18, 13:32
I frequent many BJ bars. Until now, my favorite girl was Tik from Kasalong. Changed my opinion after visiting 7 Heaven today.
Was free in the afternoon on father's day. So thought of checking this place on Soi 33. Quite easy to spot with all the pink decor. Although marketed as a Jap place, I had no issues in getting in (I am of Indian descent). There were 4 asian customers in the lobby pre / after the session. Mamasan was quite enthusiastic. Quickly showed the ladies on menu. 10 on shift, but only 5 were available - 2 from remaining were quite cute. Chose Puppy. With Handcuffs.
Got Drink; Went up. Puppy was super cool. Girl next door types. She initiated small talk with friendly touches here and there. But was very shy / homely types, not the typical girl you see in an MP. Petite A Cup with a cute face.
Went up. The rooms are, ummm not exactly rooms. Cubicles with partitions half-way. Easy to hear what's happening on the other side. Basics as usual. A sink to wash, bed, table. Puppy went out to get her paraphernalia and came back in 3-4 minutes. We took off our clothes and then she washed and dried me well. Then asked me to lie down while she cleaned her mouth etc. Then the deed started. Very sensual nipple lick, allowed kissing too (cheeks, neck, shoulders; didn't try mouth, it's a BJ bar folks). Was followed by balls and then she handcuffed herself and took little johnny in her. I nutted within 1 min of her starting the actual BJ. Embarrassing. She took all the load in mouth peacefully, then went down to spit.
Since it quite early of 40-minutes; she asked if I want one more shot (without extra money. That's the policy of the shop). I thought won't be ready again. So said no (regretted later. As I was hard after 15 minutes just by thinking about her). She then said let me massage you for a while then. Massaged legs and back for 10 minutes. Wasn't helping much. And there was another customer in the next room with a moaning girl. So I just said let's move. She then cleaned me again, set up the room and we left.
Overall very GFE and non-mechanical experience. Would try other girls here again and puppy too.
Pros:
- Many girls are young, cute and good looking unlike other BJ bars where 50% are old and 50% fat.
- No rush (YMMV and maybe depends on the girl, time of day but experience here was good).
- If you shoot early, they give you another shot for free (else 300 be extra for another shot).
Cons:
- Not very private, if that's what you want.
- No line-up, you only get to see girls on iPad. However, pics are accurate (in fact puppy looked better).
Overall: WIR.
Damages - 1300 (BJ, 40-minutes) + 300 (Hand-cuffs) + 100 Tip.
P.S. : Apologies for bad pics; did the best I could. Will give you some sense of the room and girl.The price of 1300 is the reason why the girls are better quality. I'm wondering if there is a VIP room like in the other bars with a normal bed? I often like this this option for FS. This option is 1700 in the other BJ bars. I imagine it will be more here.
Wow, I just called and they have bigger mirror room but no vip room for FS and I was told no FS either. Has anyone gotten FS from here? It’s pososble for safety reasons she said no but who knows. Any info would be greatly appreciated but I will go to check it out regardless to see what I can muster up with my “game” lol
Where is MP when I need him. Lol
Jimmy Boy 99
12-05-18, 16:33
I frequent many BJ bars. Until now, my favorite girl was Tik from Kasalong. Changed my opinion after visiting 7 Heaven today.
Snip. Chose Puppy. With Handcuffs.
Snip. Then the deed started. Very sensual nipple lick, allowed kissing too (cheeks, neck, shoulders; didn't try mouth, it's a BJ bar folks). Was followed by balls and then she handcuffed herself and took little johnny in her. I nutted within 1 min of her starting the actual BJ. Embarrassing. She took all the load in mouth peacefully, then went down to spit. Snip.What's with the handcuffs? She handcuffed herself to give you a blowjob? Why? Is this a particular fetish of yours and you provided the handcuffs or is it common enough that they have their own handcuffs and I have just never heard about this fetish?
Etaoin2003
12-05-18, 19:10
Thanks guys. My night was a complete bust due to stomach pains. No session only some boring commentary.
Decided to walk to 7/1. My first ever fly by of wood and chrome. I wasn't expecting much for looks but thought if one was OK I'd do it because I never had before. I expected old hags. Tbh some were at least in late 20's. They were screaming for my attention. I was the only guy on the entire soi. I didn't see anyone worth trying. Did see a decent petite girl at one of the bars. Noticed most were ladyboy bars but this bar had a decent girl.Most are not ladyboy bars. There's a katooey bar / massage operation about one-third of the way down the road that can color the whole experience. They're aggressive but they do take a friendly no for an answer.
Sadly, Wood and Chrome have gone way downhill since the Dr. BJ's era. Eden and Magic Table often don't have any staff sitting outside, so they look pretty forlorn. However, if you slow down and spend some time in the hotel-affiliated bars you may discover, as I did, a gem. Just don't be looking for Natt Chanapa, and realize that most women get to 27 before they really get skilled at it. (BTW, Natt is 33. I'd do her!
As for the woman I spent time with: 2 K overnight, superb Thai massage included, great personality, kind, lots of attention to personal details, excellent companionship. WIR? YID. Not someone you'd pick if you went looking for a quick bang with an 18-year-old. We all value different aspects of the experience.
One thing I enjoy is talking and getting to know the backstory of some of the people I meet, so long as they aren't trying to sell me a tale about a sick water buffalo and needing to send money to their family in Issan.
I was sitting in one of the Soi 4 bars looking out at the Nana Hotel parking lot and got into a conversation with a girl who grew up in Bangkok. I had to honestly tell her that she shouldn't waste too much time with me because I wasn't going to go with her (not even remotely attracted top her, but I didn't say it that way). "It's OK," she said, "I don't like to sleep with men when I'm not interested because it's boring. " While I was trying to figure out whether I'd just been insulted, a voice called out excitedly from the sidewalk, followed by a quick conversation in Thai. The middle-aged woman on the sidewalk grinned and waved to me. "Is my doh-tah," she proclaimed proudly. It takes all kinds.
What's with the handcuffs? She handcuffed herself to give you a blowjob? Why? Is this a particular fetish of yours and you provided the handcuffs or is it common enough that they have their own handcuffs and I have just never heard about this fetish?The handcuffs is an add-on. It is on the menu, like in several other japanese orientated Pink Salons.
Robert Long
12-05-18, 23:59
Spent 23 days in Bkk this time. Spent too much time on Soi 7. The Beer Garden is an interesting place to shoot down a few beers. Easy women who only need eye contact and they are yours. A little pass their pull date but still have many miles left. These ladies do not disappoint. You will never get a starfish here. They know how to please a man.
Some evenings didn't even make it into the bar. There are Momma sans with tables on Soi 7 and the all have a few girls ready to entertain. I found the last table on the right had some young ladies that were not that bad. Spent time with them and pulled a few ST for 1500. These girls were very good also. Real intense GF and even clean the room after finished. Wash the dishes and fold your clothes. Sweet.
I was staying in an ABNB on Asok Montari about 2 k from Sukhumvit. I like to walk and get the exercise so no problem. Across the road is the Pullman Hotel and there is a Soi 23 behind with many massage shops. Also a great Craft beer outdoor bar on the corner. I needed a good massage and found a cutie yelling at me as I crossed the road. I ask for an oily and she jumped at the chance. Once in the room she ask if I wanted a body to body and BJ for 1500. I said sure but I eat you same same. She said she never did that before. An we proceeded to please each other, she came big time and just laid there spent. I rolled over and proceeded to fuck her hard and long. She really got into it and when we were both finished she was very happy. I believe she was never eaten before. She said that no one ever suggested it and she has never had a BF. Just works everyday. She's 28, a little pimpui, but a tight athletic body. I gave her 2000. Those MP's are all full service.
I booked 10 ladies from TC and TF. One was in Sura Buri and another was in Ayutthaya. I rented a car and drove to Sara Buri, met the lady and she took me to a local bar with Thai rock and roll, cheap beer and food. She had lied and her photo was 10 years ago. She was 65 kilos instead of 50. Wanted to spend the night but was worried about her daughter that just gave birth and wanted to get back to her. I agreed.
Next day off to Ayutthaya, the lady I met is a distributor and agreed to be a guide to all of the Temples. It was a great experience. I extended and stayed 2 days. We had dinner on the river and the hotel had a jacuzzi, which we loved for 2 nights. A very loving and sweet lady. A little on the pimpui side but not bad.
A friend showed up the last 7 days and it was nice to have a wing man. Hit all the usual places and enjoyed the action.
RL.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-06-18, 00:17
The handcuffs is an add-on. It is on the menu, like in several other japanese orientated Pink Salons.Thanks. However, what is the point of her handcuffing herself? How does that improve her blowjob? Is it some kind of bondage thing that the customer wants?
Robert Long
12-06-18, 03:41
Thanks. However, what is the point of her handcuffing herself? How does that improve her blowjob? Is it some kind of bondage thing that the customer wants?One lady that I spent some time with, worked thru Thermae and she said that all Japanese guys have mini vibrators and sex toys. Look at the culture, look at the ladies in Thermae that dress and make up like Animi.
RL.
These ladies do not disappoint. You will never get a starfish here. They know how to please a man.
Some evenings didn't even make it into the bar. There are Momma sans with tables on Soi 7 and the all have a few girls ready to entertain. I found the last table on the right had some young ladies that were not that bad. Spent time with them and pulled a few ST for 1500. These girls were very good also. Real intense GF and even clean the room after finished. Wash the dishes and fold your clothes. Sweet.
All I can say hats off to you! Very lucky to find the real idea of a Thai courtesan. This was standard operating procedure in the past but is still alive if you train your lady correctly.
Spent 23 days in Bkk this time. Spent too much time on Soi 7. The Beer Garden is an interesting place to shoot down a few beers. Easy women who only need eye contact and they are yours. A little pass their pull date but still have many miles left. These ladies do not disappoint. You will never get a starfish here. They know how to please a man.
Some evenings didn't even make it into the bar. There are Momma sans with tables on Soi 7 and the all have a few girls ready to entertain. I found the last table on the right had some young ladies that were not that bad. Spent time with them and pulled a few ST for 1500. These girls were very good also. Real intense GF and even clean the room after finished. Wash the dishes and fold your clothes. Sweet.
A friend showed up the last 7 days and it was nice to have a wing man. Hit all the usual places and enjoyed the action.
RL.Haven't been to Bang'kok last 7/8 years. But this weekend I will be there- old times sake.
Always had a good time at Biergarten 7/1, talent varies. If you sit and drink enough beer. Somebody to your liking would ultimately show up. Great daytime place food / drink, pickups.
And how is the Bamboo bar (3/1) doing, I had great time there. Is it still alive and happening?
Have ST / LT rates gone up now. It used to 1000/3000 - now I read higher rates here??
Any other new to go places that need be explored.
Thanks.
While I am a moderator my work is on the other site not the international so I only use this site as a monger not a worker.
The issue you describe happens because some people are unmoderated v moderated senior members. When a person goes through the process of regular to senior member without getting on our radar their posts no longer get read by us they simply go directly live. If there is a senior who is acting like an asshole abusing people and somebody reports one of their posts then we review their last 50 posts. If they have a history of being an asshole then we put them back on moderation. Generally that happens if they have two argumentative posts in a six month period. I haven't checked but perhaps you are on moderation and the people you're speaking of are not. If they aren't then it's not a question of them being allowed to post, it's because we are unaware of what they are posting.
Then again, sometimes we fuck up and just miss some douchey shit, it happens, we look at a lot of posts.
In any event, Thailand has a fight thread, if you want to call somebody an asshole just take it to the fight thread and have a good time.
A2.Do Arguments matter, do Moderators have to get involved.
Live and let Live, and Let Die. Ignore ignorants and do your thing- monger and have fun.
Spent 23 days in Bkk this time. Spent too much time on Soi 7. The Beer Garden is an interesting place to shoot down a few beers. Easy women who only need eye contact and they are yours. A little pass their pull date but still have many miles left. These ladies do not disappoint. You will never get a starfish here. They know how to please a man.
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RL.Have to say your experience with Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies varies wildly from mine. I have certainly had Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies lock eyes with me, wave me over, come to my stool, put their arms around me, come onto me very strong, sit, chat, tell me they want me and that they will do anything to make me happy, anything and everything I want, please just tell them so they can agree and leave with me (for money, that is). But when I tell them, "Great. What will make me happy tonight is either a full and complete BBBJ+CIM (not exactly using those terms, of course) or to boom boom without a condom," I have only had 2-3 out of probably 25 approaches by now in the past few years say "Ok". And it turned out back in the room they were lying.
Well, one lady did go along with the boom boom no condom request back in the room a couple of years ago. But she was one of the homliest women in the place. I only agreed to take her because I thought my actually getting one of the two things I wanted with a woman there, any woman there, would finally break my Beer Garden Soi 7 curse of not getting what I want from them. It didn't. Really not a good place for me to pull from I suppose.
Member #4591
12-06-18, 16:18
In any event, Thailand has a fight thread, if you want to call somebody an asshole just take it to the fight thread and have a good time.
Do Arguments matter, do Moderators have to get involved.
Live and let Live, and Let Die. Ignore ignorants and do your thing- monger and have fun.There is a set of rules for the forum that should be followed. They are supposed to make the forum experience more enjoyable for all members and keep our forum off the radar of the authorities in each region so we do not get blocked like in China for example. One thing I would really like to get clarification on is the thread that we are apparently free and clear to say what we want on is actually what it was designed for. I still don't think we are free and clear to say what we want in that thread.
Blanquiceleste
12-06-18, 16:44
I found these old photos of Shebas girls from the mid 2000's. Not sure if you know any of them, but here they are.I think I recognise the one in the red top. The good old days. Apart from her, the rest I would pass.
But them tits. Fabulous. That pair would make for a great titty massage! Kudos!
There is a set of rules for the forum that should be followed. They are supposed to make the forum experience more enjoyable for all members and keep our forum off the radar of the authorities in each region so we do not get blocked like in China for example. One thing I would really like to get clarification on is the thread that we are apparently free and clear to say what we want on is actually what it was designed for. I still don't think we are free and clear to say what we want in that thread.Agree yes- whatever needs to be done stay below radar of authorities. Like und / age is blocked word. Ok with that.
Sometimes needless silly stuff gets blocked- who cares.
But lets stay on track with the main business.
Have to say your experience with Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies varies wildly from mine. I have certainly had Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies lock eyes with me, wave me over, come to my stool, put their arms around me, come onto me very strong, sit, chat, tell me they want me and that they will do anything to make me happy, anything and everything I want, please just tell them so they can agree and leave with me (for money, that is). But when I tell them, "Great. What will make me happy tonight is either a full and complete BBBJ+CIM (not exactly using those terms, of course) or to boom boom without a condom," I have only had 2-3 out of probably 25 approaches by now in the past few years say "Ok". And it turned out back in the room they were lying.
Well, one lady did go along with the boom boom no condom request back in the room a couple of years ago. But she was one of the homliest women in the place. I only agreed to take her because I thought my actually getting one of the two things I wanted with a woman there, any woman there, would finally break my Beer Garden Soi 7 curse of not getting what I want from them. It didn't. Really not a good place for me to pull from I suppose.Yeah with a place like Beer Garden. Quality / service / negotiation etc etc- so YMMV. Once upon a time 10+ years ago it was the best place for day time pickups. Not sure what is the status now.
Any other place recommendations for FLs?
Yeah with a place like Beer Garden. Quality / service / negotiation etc etc- so YMMV. Once upon a time 10+ years ago it was the best place for day time pickups. Not sure what is the status now.
Any other place recommendations for FLs?Its my first time in Bangkok, arriving today for the weekend. Trough ThaiFriendly I have lined up at least 10 freelancers already by putting in some work a few days before I left the US. I even have 2 amateurs that want to meet in hotel and we will probably do more then talking, just by bringing them presents. I also signed up at smooci they have a bunch of independents as well.
Yeah with a place like Beer Garden. Quality / service / negotiation etc etc- so YMMV. Once upon a time 10+ years ago it was the best place for day time pickups. Not sure what is the status now.
Any other place recommendations for FLs?Status now? Full of old women. I bet the average age is at least 40. IMHO, it's a horror show.
Its my first time in Bangkok, arriving today for the weekend. Trough ThaiFriendly I have lined up at least 10 freelancers already by putting in some work a few days before I left the US. I even have 2 amateurs that want to meet in hotel and we will probably do more then talking, just by bringing them presents. I also signed up at smooci they have a bunch of independents as well.What in the world is "smooci" - is this some kind of an Ad?
Robert Long
12-07-18, 06:38
Its my first time in Bangkok, arriving today for the weekend. Trough ThaiFriendly I have lined up at least 10 freelancers already by putting in some work a few days before I left the US. I even have 2 amateurs that want to meet in hotel and we will probably do more then talking, just by bringing them presents. I also signed up at smooci they have a bunch of independents as well.TF is a fun place to chat and play with the ladies. The problem is that when you arrive and try and get some time with them, they have many excuses. They only have 1 day off and that's Sunday. They are in Bang Na and to far to go to meet you. Or their sisters sick and they don't want to leave her.
And then there's the ones that used a photo that's 10 years old and they have put on a little weight, like 15 kilos. If your lucky you'll get 1 or 2. I've been there my friend and tried the same lines you have. I even told some I wanted a Thai lady to marry me. 555 Good luck I wish you better luck than I had.
RL.
What in the world is "smooci" - is this some kind of an Ad?Do a google search or an ISG search or open the Smooci thread.
Status now? Full of old women. I bet the average age is at least 40. IMHO, it's a horror show.Ha ha. I did not even like the "talent" there 10 years ago, mind you I could do a pretty 40 YO in good condition, but then such a women probably would not be there I guess.
A girlfriend and I happened to be walking near Soi Cowboy about 9PM last night, she said she'd never been in a go-go bar, so we stopped in Crazy House for a look. We had to buy two drinks outside, as I understand is the case most of the time now. Or maybe it was because I had a girl with me. No matter. The bottom floor was packed, not an available seat for one person much less two, so the server pointed upstairs. I thought, crap, that is where management sends the older, chubbier, less attractive girls to hang out. Nobody wants to go upstairs. And in fact there was plenty of available seating up there.
However, I was pleasantly surprised to see there were several very good looking girls shuffling around on the glass stage upstairs at that hour. I mean slim, fit, well-proportioned, nearly tattoo-free, butt-naked, young girls with perky natural tits, pretty faces, imo, and no sign of baby damage. I might even go so far as to say 3-4 of the upstairs girls were among the better looking dancers in the club at that hour last night. Could be the better looking girls that had been dancing downstairs were already out on barfines at the 9PM hour. Oh, and for that hour at least, there was no ridiculous grandma' shoots a dart out of her raggedy pussy and pops a balloon show!
Sure, they were as likely as any of Crazy House's other girls if not more likely to specialize in the "coke and tequila" non-existent cocktail 2 Lady Drink order and then bolt scam. Since I was with a girl already, none of them hit me up for a Lady Drink. As a matter of fact, there were so few customers upstairs I did not see those girls being called over or hitting up customers for drinks at all.
Anybody else notice an improvement in the upstairs line up at Crazy House lately? I know it has been reported several times that the line up at Crazy House is not as good as it was 2-3 years ago. I am among those who reported it. But last night I could not say that was the case for at least 4-5 girls last night. And they working upstairs too!
LewisCarrol
12-07-18, 07:59
They have it in the menu. Essentially she handcuffed herself and gave a BJ without Hands. I was curious too, so did it first time to see how it goes!
The shop provides the handcuffs, it's an addon you can choose with others like COB, COF etc.
Safe Mongering,
LC.
What's with the handcuffs? She handcuffed herself to give you a blowjob? Why? Is this a particular fetish of yours and you provided the handcuffs or is it common enough that they have their own handcuffs and I have just never heard about this fetish?
ForgottenOwl
12-08-18, 22:45
Does anyone know a gogo bar, blowjob bar, strip club, or any place where I can get full service in the bar area and not in a back room?
Nana Plaza lost a Ladyboy bar and gained a regular (real ladies only?) go-go bar very recently. It is called Geisha, located on the top level of Nana Plaza in the corner down from Butterflies go-go bar, in a spot that used to be a Ladyboy bar. I think the name is "Geisha" only, no "Bar" next to it, but could be wrong. Somewhat U-shaped seating area around a tiered stage. Has a glassed-in bathtub box on the far side of the stage as you walk in. The girls in that glass box wash themselves with sudsy water from the tub and go topless. Seems to have some of the available stage and seating area on the opposite side of the room curtained off for further construction. I don't know for sure since this bar was a Labyboy bar before and I never went inside then.
I went there last night, Saturday night, around 9 PM. When the mamasan saw me walk in she came over, threw her arms around me all smiles and happiness, welcoming me into the place. I never met her before, so that was unexpected. LOL. Maybe she thought I was somebody else she knew already. She told me all the girls are barfineable, all barfines are 800 baht regardless of ST or LT and everything else is up to the girl and you. I pointed to one girl onstage who was wearing a black bikini instead of the general white the other girls were wearing and to another one who appeared to be wearing a double layer top with a black bra under her white bikini top (no pantyhose) and asked why they were wearing those and did that mean they were Coyotes? Mamasan said no difference, same as the other girls. I didn't ask, but I saw no evidence of intermingled Ladyboys, although I don't recall seeing a "Real Ladies Only" sign outside either.
In the two sets of dance sessions I sat for, there were about 12 girls on stage for each set and another half dozen or so walking around or sitting next to or on the laps of customers. Not a particularly wild or party atmosphere. The music was loud but not too loud for me to understand what the mamasan and servers were saying to me. At that hour on this Saturday night the seating area, three levels of cushioned bleacher style booths, was about 20% occupied. Despite the possibly misleading name of the bar (in more ways than one, imo) the customer demographic was no more than half Asian/Japanese(?) and there seemed to be mostly older expat type customers. Same as me, I suppose.
I did not see any girls rating what one would likely consider a Bargirl 8 or above in terms of looks. But if you are fine with the young cute or quirky cute look and demeanor, as I am, you might have found 3-4 on the stage during each set that appealed enough to give her a shot. I came in smiling, was greeted rather nicely by the mamasan, kept up a positive, happy and approachable demeanor since that is genuinely how I felt last night anyway, yet I can't say my smile or gaze was returned by any "doable" girl (for me) either on stage or walking around. Neither I nor any other customer in the bar was approached by girls alone or in pairs for a Ladydrink request after they came down from the stage after a set. They all donned more regular clothes over their bikinis, shorts and t-shirts, and hightailed it outside to join the "Come Inside!" chorus.
Maybe those last couple of observations is a comment on the girls' interest or rather disinterest in me buying one a drink or barfining them, I have no idea. LOL. Some guys much prefer the "no interference with my drinking" style in a bar, where the girls neither flag you from the stage with a "buy me drink" gesture or approach you personally after their dance set. This time I took it as a reason not to engage with any girl there but might go back and give it another look sometime.
Member #4591
12-09-18, 04:30
Does anyone know a gogo bar, blowjob bar, strip club, or any place where I can get full service in the bar area and not in a back room?I said PM and l will tell you.
I came in smiling, was greeted rather nicely by the mamasan, kept up a positive, happy and approachable demeanor since that is genuinely how I felt last night anyway, yet I can't say my smile or gaze was returned by any "doable" girl (for me) either on stage or walking around. Neither I nor any other customer in the bar was approached by girls alone or in pairs for a Ladydrink request after they came down from the stage after a set. They all donned more regular clothes over their bikinis, shorts and t-shirts, and hightailed it outside to join the "Come Inside!" chorus.
Maybe those last couple of observations is a comment on the girls' interest or rather disinterest in me buying one a drink or barfining them, I have no idea. LOL. Some guys much prefer the "no interference with my drinking" style in a bar, where the girls neither flag you from the stage with a "buy me drink" gesture or approach you personally after their dance set. This time I took it as a reason not to engage with any girl there but might go back and give it another look sometime.Good report to introduce this bar.
I don't think the name of the bar is at all relevant. Does not have to mean anything. They have to come up with something for the name. Yes few bars have the word "bar" in the name (at least I am guessing that. Never paid massive attention to such a detail). Maybe there are exceptions "Mercury Bar"? "Enter Bar"? (not even sure). Seems redundant though unless name is an adjective or verb needing a Noun. Ha ha. I am happy with you just calling it "Geisha" or Geisha bar, no problem at all.
The girls maybe trained not to hassle the customers. It is not that uncommon in bars for girls to dash outside to join the attempted customer pulling. I think if you want to buy a girl a drink, should be up to you to give her the signal if she looks in your direction, or to even go tell her, or get a staff member to do so. Some girls are very shy about being proactive or pushy. Indeed I hate pushy girls, myself.
So nothing in your report really put me off at all, except potentially the girls might not be pretty enough to hold my interest long. I would still go for a look for sure. Price of lady drinks and customer drinks can be a topic of interest, especially lady drinks, since can vary a lot. However you would not know if never bought one obviously.
Anybody else notice an improvement in the upstairs line up at Crazy House lately? I know it has been reported several times that the line up at Crazy House is not as good as it was 2-3 years ago. I am among those who reported it. But last night I could not say that was the case for at least 4-5 girls last night. And they working upstairs too!Nope but limited recent attendance, last time probably a few weeks ago, and never was an upstairs person. Never requested to buy drinks on entry but am well known not to be a waste of time, and will always buy drinks inside (even if turns out to be only one), never just leave. Maybe a ploy based on downstairs being full or relevant to having a girl go with you, if she did not look like a hooker.
Standard of the line up is not at all consistent. Can vary a lot, especially as only requires 2 to 3 good girls to make the line up good for me (sometimes there are none of any interest).
Status now? Full of old women. I bet the average age is at least 40. IMHO, it's a horror show.Without a doubt, most of the girls there are old and ugly. However, there are some cuties in there once in a while. I actually enjoy Biergarten more than Thermae. I know the girls at Thermae are much better looking, but sitting in Thermae and having a beer sucks. Biergarten is a much more pleasant environment to sit and have a few beers.
Decided to walk to 7/1. My first ever fly by of wood and chrome. I wasn't expecting much for looks but thought if one was OK I'd do it because I never had before. I expected old hags. Tbh some were at least in late 20's. They were screaming for my attention. I was the only guy on the entire soi. I didn't see anyone worth trying. Did see a decent petite girl at one of the bars. Noticed most were ladyboy bars but this bar had a decent girl. Likely a mistake but I decided to go see my hostess girl at kc1.Soi 7/1 is oddly sometimes just completely deserted except a handful of workers hanging out, and its not many. I've never figured it out, guessing when people go down that street, they know what they are looking for and find it and go in, or leave quickly so no need to have everyone out or whatever. Unlike other areas, places like Wood, Chrome, and Eden's don't have all or even most of their girls hanging outside, so don't be turned off on that. When you go in though, the numbers and quality go up a lot. All that said, its a long way from the Dr. BJ's days of quality and amount of girls in the spots there. Dr. BJ's was truly a special spot in its day.
All that said, its a long way from the Dr. BJ's days of quality and amount of girls in the spots there. Dr. BJ's was truly a special spot in its day.I had a buddy who went to Dr. BJ's almost every day when he visited Bangkok. There was one girl there he absolutely raved about. The one and only time I tried Dr. BJ's was with that girl. I thought the BJ was mediocre and never returned.
Soi 7/1 is oddly sometimes just completely deserted except a handful of workers hanging out, and its not many. I've never figured it out, guessing when people go down that street, they know what they are looking for and find it and go in, or leave quickly so no need to have everyone out or whatever. Unlike other areas, places like Wood, Chrome, and Eden's don't have all or even most of their girls hanging outside, so don't be turned off on that. When you go in though, the numbers and quality go up a lot. All that said, its a long way from the Dr. BJ's days of quality and amount of girls in the spots there. Dr. BJ's was truly a special spot in its day.We are going through a period of notably low quality of looks at the most easily surveyed BJ Bars in the area; L0litas, Kasalong and Wood Bar. None of the 3-4 above average lookers who could have been seen and taken at some point during the day or night shift have been working in them for a few months now. And EE, the first Super Star at Dr. BJ's Salon (now Wood Bar), left 2-3 years ago and took almost all of her higher standards influence at that bar with her, IMO.
I was walking by Landmark hotel yesterday around 12 and saw this CIS lady sitting there. Black hair, kind of heavy, big lips probably made up. Had a good time at Nana and was returning back around 2 and she was still there. Anyone know who she is? Thinking of approaching her but already had my share of fun. Also is it ok if I just approach her at the landmark and ask her for a drink and maybe take it from there. I have seen her just sit there many times in the past as well. In fact for a couple of months ago as well.
We are going through a period of notably low quality of looks at the most easily surveyed BJ Bars in the area; L0litas, Kasalong and Wood Bar. None of the 3-4 above average lookers who could have been seen and taken at some point during the day or night shift have been working in them for a few months now. And EE, the first Super Star at Dr. BJ's Salon (now Wood Bar), left 2-3 years ago and took almost all of her higher standards influence at that bar with her, IMO.I rolled past the those bars at midnight on Saturday, the stuff outside was horrible.
Does anyone know of a service where I can have 2 or 3 GFE style girls with me to guide me through Payttya and BKK. Sort on my person guides that I play with at night. Any suggestions or can someone point me in the right direction?
By the way I was in Spasso Saturday night. Had some wonderful (overpriced) cocktails, watched Lukaku finally score a goal and watched the goings on. Girl score: 3-4 generous on a scale of 10. Older, fat, roboboobs and generally unattractive. The dudes were no better, old and fat, not like I'm anything to write home about, but at least I don't have some 5000 B milfish heifer hanging on my arm. There was one Indian looking girl who was slim, elegant, exotic and beautiful. From the waist up. Her bottom looked like the back end of a 67 VW Beetle. If you are an ass man she was for you.
I went to Thermae too. Surprisingly uncrowded. 20% doable to my standards. But I was was drink limped by then so just went home.
I had a buddy who went to Dr. BJ's almost every day when he visited Bangkok. There was one girl there he absolutely raved about. The one and only time I tried Dr. BJ's was with that girl. I thought the BJ was mediocre and never returned.Guess everyone has their style. I've had some really really great service there, mixed in with some mediocre ones, that well, you have, its over and you move on. In the older days I'd put its quality in the top tier of BJ bars (especially that they had a large staff to choose from really helped) and that they would often do 2 shots (depending on you and the girl). Now, prob just run of the mill.
We are going through a period of notably low quality of looks at the most easily surveyed BJ Bars in the area; L0litas, Kasalong and Wood Bar. None of the 3-4 above average lookers who could have been seen and taken at some point during the day or night shift have been working in them for a few months now. And EE, the first Super Star at Dr. BJ's Salon (now Wood Bar), left 2-3 years ago and took almost all of her higher standards influence at that bar with her, IMO.Man EE was always occupied or not present when I went, heard about her, saw pics, was excited, but always not available. I had some great ones though, all of which I believe are gone now.
Whats the best one going now? Or all they all on the level I assume. Last time I was abound doing it, I guess they were all offering about the same quality.
Banana Boi
12-10-18, 04:44
. Unlike other areas, places like Wood, Chrome, and Eden's don't have all or even most of their girls hanging outside, so don't be turned off on that. When you go in though, the numbers and quality go up a lot. .OK good to know. Didn't know I could walk in and see more girls. I never paid attention to all the Bangkok BJ bar posts in the past but now just want to try one.
Are there still BJ bars near Patpong? I remember reading about some in the past.
OK good to know. Didn't know I could walk in and see more girls. I never paid attention to all the Bangkok BJ bar posts in the past but now just want to try one.
Are there still BJ bars near Patpong? I remember reading about some in the past.I think Star of Light is still open, and not sure its the same as the other bars, as I've never bothered to go there when there are all the other places on Sukhumvit. Never been a big fan of the patpong area or nightlife there.
Good report to introduce this bar.
I don't think the name of the bar is at all relevant. Does not have to mean anything. They have to come up with something for the name. Yes few bars have the word "bar" in the name (at least I am guessing that. Never paid massive attention to such a detail). Maybe there are exceptions "Mercury Bar"? "Enter Bar"? (not even sure). Seems redundant though unless name is an adjective or verb needing a Noun. Ha ha. I am happy with you just calling it "Geisha" or Geisha bar, no problem at all.
The girls maybe trained not to hassle the customers. It is not that uncommon in bars for girls to dash outside to join the attempted customer pulling. I think if you want to buy a girl a drink, should be up to you to give her the signal if she looks in your direction, or to even go tell her, or get a staff member to do so. Some girls are very shy about being proactive or pushy. Indeed I hate pushy girls, myself.
So nothing in your report really put me off at all, except potentially the girls might not be pretty enough to hold my interest long. I would still go for a look for sure. Price of lady drinks and customer drinks can be a topic of interest, especially lady drinks, since can vary a lot. However you would not know if never bought one obviously.Syzy, I don't recall any girl striking me as fitting your generally cited specs. But I am usually not in a "taking notes for a future report" mode during those times. Just cruising around with a positive attitude and seeing if I am inspired one way or another. I do recall my plain club sodas were 120 baht each at the 9PM hour. But, you're right that I did not find out how much a Lady Drink costs (or a beer or other alcoholic beverage) because I did not invite a lady to order one. Also, we know these new bars can swing far and wide on the issue of appealing lineups at first. One week it is bleak, the next week it is fine, the next week bleak again, etc. LOL. Remember that happening at Butterflies when it first opened?
On the name of the place, when I first looked up from the ground level of Nana Plaza and saw it simply as "Geisha" (although I did not make such a mental note of it that I was sure about that the next day), the thought occurred to me that IF the owners had intended any meaning at all to it other than simply a familiar Asian word for a certain kind of female, they might have been implying they intended to cater to a primarily Japanese customer base. And there was also the possibility that it was not going to be a typical go-go bar per se but a bar employing girls who will drink with, entertain and even dance for customers but are not typically available for sex. The classic definition of "Geisha". LOL. Much like some bars on Soi Cowboy that are mostly filled with non barfineable Coyotes.
Again, that was only from looking at the top floor signage from the ground level before I climbed the two floors up to go inside.
But the main reason I wanted to mention in passing about possibly being wrong about the exact name of the place with that one sentence early in my report was for the sake of the Search feature here and a certain kind of confusion about the names and locations of places that pops up every now and then. We don't know but that in a few months there will be a "Geisha BKK", a "Geisha Bar" or even a "Geisha Boy" in the area, brought to us by the fine folks who brought us "Geisha"!
After all, in and around Nana Plaza we already have a Mandarin Bar (upstairs) and a Mandarin Bar (upstairs upstairs), which have caused some confusion here in the past, a Twister and now a Twister BKK that have already caused some confusion, several Rainbow Bars, one that started out as Rainbow 4, switched to Rainbow 5 and is now back to Rainbow 4 again, and a collection of Hillary Bars. I just thought it might be a good idea to try to be as specific as possible about this bar in the first mention of it in this thread.
Robert Long
12-10-18, 07:29
Without a doubt, most of the girls there are old and ugly. However, there are some cuties in there once in a while. I actually enjoy Biergarten more than Thermae. I know the girls at Thermae are much better looking, but sitting in Thermae and having a beer sucks. Biergarten is a much more pleasant environment to sit and have a few beers.Yup, a good place to sit and have a few beers at a good price. Good music and the food is not bad. Just wait for the diamond in the rough. There are always a few under 40 and ready to go. They all speak English so it makes it easy to define and agree on services and rates. No disappointments here, they are as horny as we are.
Crazy house is to small. Loaded with smoking Asians and just too crowded. The servers push the ladies on to the Asian boys and wait for the drink order. They had too many ladies on the stage when I went in and busy upstairs. An idiot at the door that wants a drink order before you go in and pay 170 baht for a beer. But they do have the best tall and shapely ladies in Cowboy.
RL.
I had a buddy who went to Dr. BJ's almost every day when he visited Bangkok. There was one girl there he absolutely raved about. The one and only time I tried Dr. BJ's was with that girl. I thought the BJ was mediocre and never returned.I only recall taking one girl there in the past, but took her many times. It was EE, their first Super Star with the signature horn-rimmed glasses. She took them off during the session if you asked her to. I might have taken another girl there once, but don't recall now.
Even as their Super Star, EE would invariably stop about two strokes too soon, which sometimes actually caused pain in my dick and I would hurriedly reach down and do those last two strokes with my own hand because she had already pulled away and was beginning to stand up! LOL. I had to remind her not to do that before every session, to please do just two more long strokes before bailing out after she thinks I am done. If I didn't mention it before each session, she never remembered it on her own. She had too many customers to remember such a thing about one on her own, I suppose.
Without a doubt, most of the girls there are old and ugly. However, there are some cuties in there once in a while. I actually enjoy Biergarten more than Thermae. I know the girls at Thermae are much better looking, but sitting in Thermae and having a beer sucks. Biergarten is a much more pleasant environment to sit and have a few beers.After my first seven or eight rejections in a row for what I would want from those rare cuties in Beergarden Soi 7, I just resigned myself to going in there with friends who like the place as a mongering venue and to eat the food. Still, that amounts to at least one visit there per month over the past 6 years. And while I am there I do what has been mentioned in this exchange; meet and chat with whoever has potential sitting next to me, comes over to me, draws me over to them, see what happens. And my answer to that last part is nothing much positive happens. For me, that is. Which I am fine with.
Weirdly, I have a much better rate of success for either BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP with the younger, better looking girls in Thermae than with any of the women in Beergarden Soi 7, from the rare cuties to the marginally passable ones. Hard for it not to be better and a lot better! lol. I have no idea why that is so, but there it is.
After my first seven or eight rejections in a row for what I would want from those rare cuties in Beergarden Soi 7, I just resigned myself to going in there with friends who like the place as a mongering venue and to eat the food. Still, that amounts to at least one visit there per month over the past 6 years.I went there with a friend who wanted to go there maybe only 2 or 3 times ever. Most friends had little interest in it. Never took a girl to fuck from Biergarten (or is it Beer Garden) ever, unless my Alzheimers is getting bad. Hence would have little idea about fluctuation of Talent levels but I never saw any.
I had a buddy who went to Dr. BJ's almost every day when he visited Bangkok. There was one girl there he absolutely raved about. The one and only time I tried Dr. BJ's was with that girl. I thought the BJ was mediocre and never returned.Clearly it is greatly about how you go with a particular girl. At one time they had about 3 girls that I thought were hot enough in the body to be doable. Might seem a strange comment, but of course I rarely go to a BJ bar to get just a BJ.
My first girl ever tried in Dr BJ was mediocre too, and not hot enough. No reason for me to write the place off, just choose better. Did not exactly take a liking to some of the non Thai staff (one was okay). Also did not like how many Thai boys were hanging around those shops. Last girl ever tried there was also mediocre (and had just had a tit job all bandaged up).
Crazy house is to small. Loaded with smoking Asians and just too crowded. The servers push the ladies on to the Asian boys and wait for the drink order. They had too many ladies on the stage when I went in and busy upstairs. An idiot at the door that wants a drink order before you go in and pay 170 baht for a beer. But they do have the best tall and shapely ladies in Cowboy.
RL.CH is rarely full at times that I go there, or went there in recent months. Yes I hate the smoke. Don't worry it is still rumoured that CH will expand in the future perhaps into "Old Dutch", however I think the line up has declined too much, might be almost soon to be past its Used By Date. Best bodied girls in Cowboy? Quite unlikely maybe only best set of naked girls. Stage is far less crowded than Bacarra. 5 Star might be an option on much smaller scale, however music is quite horrible at times.
CH was good for its first 2 or 3 years for me, now not much interest any more. Decline is severe. Early days almost all the girls looked good. Still happy to fuck one of the founding dancer girls (5 years later).
PeterCat123
12-10-18, 13:21
Will Bangkok still be busy the week before Christmas? Or do things die down?
Will Bangkok still be busy the week before Christmas? Or do things die down?It is a Buddhist country.
Banana Boi
12-11-18, 01:48
After my first seven or eight rejections in a row for what I would want from those rare cuties in Beergarden Soi 7, I just resigned myself to going in there with friends who like the place as a mongering venue and to eat the food.I thought you only got rejected in Pattaya and Bangkok was a haven to not being rejected.
I thought you only got rejected in Pattaya and Bangkok was a haven to not being rejected.Well, what can I say about that? Apparently, you never really read or comprehened my posts and thought wrong.
Will Bangkok still be busy the week before Christmas? Or do things die down?Things die down getting close to New Year. Many Thais leave Bangkok before the New Year. Buses going to the provinces become very full. Buying tickets in advance is advisable. Can be hard to get to the ticket window due to pushing and shoving. (had that experience at Chatuchak years ago). Christmas day is absolutely irrelevant. Nothing happens on Christmas day.
We are going through a period of notably low quality of looks at the most easily surveyed BJ Bars in the area; L0litas, Kasalong and Wood Bar. None of the 3-4 above average lookers who could have been seen and taken at some point during the day or night shift have been working in them for a few months now. Anne was only Loly girl that was doable for me, with a stunning ass. She left and I never returned. I note that BJ bars are generally expected to have the least good looking girls overall, although some MPs have very poor line ups. I haven't actually been to any BJ bar recently and if I did, would be for FS purposes.
I don't think girls looks overall are declining, at all, maybe just redistributed. I notice looking at all my girl pics from 10 years ago or more, none were that that exceptionally stunning, or maybe just Noi from Long Gun (who turned out to be a dud fuck for me).
It is clear I have become much fussier in my old age and my girl pics from recent years are much prettier, to my current taste.
Part of the reason is that my GF of 13 years was probably close to the prettiest girl I ever did (for my taste), maybe 3 or 4 slightly prettier in recent 5 years. So it is very hard to fuck ordinary looking girls. Just not exciting. Even harder to fuck a crappy body girl since my GF also had a super body, lacking obvious faults.
Some of the pretty girls now are Coyotes and some seem to work in Japanese oriented shops. What is left over in the MPs and BJ bars is not that exciting to me, even the average girls in a Soapy like La Belle are not quite interesting me, top few yes maybe. I accepted long ago that we have to pay a premium for pretty girls, in general. They are not going to be found as street walkers, as el cheepo BJ girls, and not likely to be pornstars.
Any girl that I would make a regular now, has to look well above average, and that means standard well above what I used to do generally 10 to 20 years ago, and has to have something special going for her. Otherwise just too boring.
Lets assume 80% of girls are in the average band and looks pretty "average", 15 to 20% very ugly and 1 to 5% quite pretty (Perhaps 1% is more realistic). 97% or more not very interesting to me. For sure we can find girls miles above the average looks, however we just have to get realistic, that this girl is not going to be in Loli-tas full of old bags. Price is also not likely to be bottom barrel unless there is a special reason, like newbie pretty Laos girl has zero English and has not even worked out yet how hot she is (yes this could happen).
I can find a great looking girl or three in Billboard (to my taste for skinny to slim). To date though, only had one BB girl that I repeated a few times, since she just had the attitude to hook a Farang BF, and sure she did very quickly. Need to try some more hotties there.
Things die down getting close to New Year. Many Thais leave Bangkok before the New Year. Buses going to the provinces become very full. Buying tickets in advance is advisable. Can be hard to get to the ticket window due to pushing and shoving. (had that experience at Chatuchak years ago). Christmas day is absolutely irrelevant. Nothing happens on Christmas day.This might all be true but the mongering venues do not die down, and I think that is what the OP wanted to know.
And anyway you hardly notice this 'die down' in a city with 14 million inhabitants. Unless when you're living there maybe.
This might all be true but the mongering venues do not die down, and I think that is what the OP wanted to know.
And anyway you hardly notice this 'die down' in a city with 14 million inhabitants. Unless when you're living there maybe.
Dying down definitely does not mean there is nothing for the tourist.
To be honest I have not been mongering in Bangkok in recent years between Christmas and the New year. Girls in the bars used to decline but that was many years ago. If you found otherwise that is great, but you are not normally in the Bangkok bars, is that right, so might not notice if your regular girls were missing? Don't know if you have any regular Bangkok bar girls. I do. I could ask them where they will be for new year. I think a good number may be missing.
I seem to recall some bars introduce silly rules like cannot barfine a girl before a certain time or price of barfine goes up dramatically from normal. Does anyone recall these details. So I certainly think the gogo bars are affected, but lack really recent experience.
Late at night I recall noticing the streets were particularly vacant, so I think reduced traffic overall might be noticeable. One vivid memory sticks from about 20 years ago. Tearing down a main road in Bangkok, having come out from the bars, in back of a Tuk Tuk and being really chilly at 2am due to speed of the Tuk Tuk. There was almost zero traffic with empty roads everywhere, and the temperature was surprisingly very low for Bangkok maybe 18 degrees ("C"). Still times change. Maybe most Issan girls no longer go home for new year. Will check with a few if get a chance.
A girlfriend and I happened to be walking near Soi Cowboy about 9PM last night, she said she'd never been in a go-go bar, so we stopped in Crazy House for a look. We had to buy two drinks outside, as I understand is the case most of the time now. Or maybe it was because I had a girl with me.
Anybody else notice an improvement in the upstairs line up at Crazy House lately? I know it has been reported several times that the line up at Crazy House is not as good as it was 2-3 years ago. I am among those who reported it. But last night I could not say that was the case for at least 4-5 girls last night. I was there Friday night and did notice that the girls were better than when I was there previously, although that was a long time ago. Can't actually remember when.
We were asked to buy drinks as well outside but one of the guys I was with said no, we will buy them inside, and they let us in. Everyone else seemed to be having to buy drinks outside.
Does anyone know a gogo bar, blowjob bar, strip club, or any place where I can get full service in the bar area and not in a back room?Not that I'm aware of.
ForgottenOwl
12-11-18, 21:10
I said PM and l will tell you.Won't have membership for another week or so but when I do I'll PM you, appreciate the response.
For now though can you tell me whether or not what you were going to tell me was FKK Clubs in Germany?
Dying down definitely does not mean there is nothing for the tourist.
To be honest I have not been mongering in Bangkok in recent years between Christmas and the New year. Girls in the bars used to decline but that was many years ago. If you found otherwise that is great, but you are not normally in the Bangkok bars, is that right, so might not notice if your regular girls were missing? Don't know if you have any regular Bangkok bar girls. I do. I could ask them where they will be for new year. I think a good number may be missing.No I don't have any regular Bangkok bar girls, only freelancers. Although I do visit the bars every now and then.
I have been to Thailand a couple of times between Christmas and New Year in recent years and the bars were always packed to the roof with girls and customers. I admit though that I was in Pattaya most of the time. Maybe Bangkok is different although that would surprise me to be honest.
Won't have membership for another week or so but when I do I'll PM you, appreciate the response.
For now though can you tell me whether or not what you were going to tell me was FKK Clubs in Germany?Don't be silly man, their is nothing secret about FKKs that would require a PM. PM would appear to mean concerns about the authorities cracking down, as I believed most places like Star of Light were now being cautious about possible raids by the Authorities. There might be a safe time and place however.
For Halloween party, in FKK World, had to fuck a girl in the public cinema area, since there were no rooms available, and a very long wait. Most of the audience seemed to be Italians for some reason, so maybe they have extra voyeuristic tendencies. For Germans it is all probably quite "Ho hum". Watching ugly old guys fuck is not that exciting from a mediocre vantage point. I never watched any of the porn shows put on. The porn stars were usually ugly with horrible coconuts up top.
Last visit to Kangaroo bar in Pat Pong, I was a bit put off by girls wanting to take me to the dark back room. Visuals is important to my excitement (assuming girl has okay Body). One girl remembered me from years ago and she was about to retire from being a hooker. I ignored her suggested fat girl instead choosing a young better looking girl, otherwise my dick would not be likely to stir.
Most wayward venues are now concerned about government raids, so crack downs on non Thai citizens, girls too young, excessively obscene behaviour in public would be another problem with the authorities, even though sex in a bar area with other staff and customers present is not really obscene for me. Been there and done that. I was a little disappointed with fucking in the SOL bar area in the past though, as girl expected me to be all done within 10 minutes I think. I hate really impatient fucks.
Anyone who can't perform while being watched or gets extra excited by it, just remember, it's all in the mind. The quality of the girl and the fuck matters more. However tick it off your Bucket List by all means. I get turned on by molesting one or preferably more naked girls in good lighting, whether or not I get seen by an audience. If you have two or three girls at the same time, then you only have one dick so automatically get a mini audience. Years ago I used to take 2 or 3 girls habitually from Sheba or Suzie Wong, however seems that my stamina to do them all thoroughly may have declined.
Still had a pretty good time this year taking Mali and Pat from Shark bar. Any Suzi W regulars from a few years ago might remember them. Recommended nice GFE girls although no BBFS. They worked well together is ST Hotel or Sathorn Apartment one time.
I am sure you can organise your own little sex party at Tulip or some Soapy MPs, if the price is right.
So my el cheapo option back in about 2008 was SOL, but wasn't really the best experience due to limited time allowed.
Won't have membership for another week or so but when I do I'll PM you, appreciate the response.
For now though can you tell me whether or not what you were going to tell me was FKK Clubs in Germany?Aside what's already said by Syzygies, if you're looking for a German style FKK like experience (which there are a few different types) in Bangkok, its not a thing in Thailand, in any way. Its just not how the scene operates, and I got to think if something like that did exist it would be shut down by authorities soon enough too. The closest, and this is playing loosely with that term, would be something like a 2 girl (or 3 girl) situation at your hotel or at a PSE MP, or Eden Club (Bangkok) or Devil's Den (Pattaya) both of which do a 2-girl PSE thing. The MPs aren't hang out spots, and you generally spend 1-2 hrs with a girl, then leave. The gogo bars are mostly takeout, except a few places that do covert semi-public BJs in the corners. There's no like house / spa / etc. Location filled with girls you can rotate through like an FKK. Man the old days where there was many places offering the unlimited action at the German FKKs were quite a time- if a place existed like that in Bangkok, it would be nuts.
Faceless78
12-12-18, 16:51
Dear all, I'll start my first trip to Bangkok late this months and I'm getting excited now! While searching the forum and other websites, I would be very happy to receive any tips from anyone of you here.
I used to frequent FKK when I was in Europe (so it's good to see some old friends here like Sir Syzygies), but I need to explore new land since I moved to Asia. For the moment I don't have anyone in real life here to consult or travel with, it's DIY all the way for my first trip, I'll stay 3 days in Bangkok and 2 days in pattaya.
I heard there are bars, massage and sauna all over the town, I guess massage or sauna won't be big problems for me, so just wondering if there 's anything I need to know to take a girl in the bar? Like how much I should pay to the bar and the girl, can I take girls back to any hotels (I. E. 100-150 usd per night)? Any famous bars to go and recommended district to stay if I want to check several famous red-light zone? Or anything comes to your mind is welcomed!
I know it's always easy to ask for something, so just thank those who would love to share their experience, I'll for sure come back with my detailed reports.
Member #4591
12-12-18, 16:58
Dear all, I'll start my first trip to Bangkok late this months and I'm getting excited now! While searching the forum and other websites, I would be very happy to receive any tips from anyone of you here.
I used to frequent FKK when I was in Europe (so it's good to see some old friends here like Sir Syzygies), but I need to explore new land since I moved to Asia. For the moment I don't have anyone in real life here to consult or travel with, it's DIY all the way for my first trip, I'll stay 3 days in Bangkok and 2 days in pattaya.
I heard there are bars, massage and sauna all over the town, I guess massage or sauna won't be big problems for me, so just wondering if there 's anything I need to know to take a girl in the bar? Like how much I should pay to the bar and the girl, can I take girls back to any hotels (I. E. 100-150 usd per night)? Any famous bars to go and recommended district to stay if I want to check several famous red-light zone? Or anything comes to your mind is welcomed!
I know it's always easy to ask for something, so just thank those who would love to share their experience, I'll for sure come back with my detailed reports.Honestly, your questions are so general and everyone has already shared so just RTFF. Out of curorisity, did you read the Bangkok Hotels thread? Did you read my recent summary of the Bangkok scene? Your thanking those who wish to share after your post but if you just go back 10 pages and read forward, you will have all your answers. Your questions are like someone who has never read even one post of the BKK thread. Am I missing something?
If you don’t want to search in the BKK thread then you can read the reports in the reports of distinction thread.
Dear all, I'll start my first trip to Bangkok late this months and I'm getting excited now! While searching the forum and other websites, I would be very happy to receive any tips from anyone of you here.
I used to frequent FKK when I was in Europe (so it's good to see some old friends here like Sir Syzygies), but I need to explore new land since I moved to Asia. For the moment I don't have anyone in real life here to consult or travel with, it's DIY all the way for my first trip, I'll stay 3 days in Bangkok and 2 days in pattaya..It will help you to read a few of the different threads in this forum which will answer most questions, but I'm going to humor you a bit here, I'd rather be helpful, but please read through the forum!
3 days /2 days is fine, make sure to make time for sightseeing and such in Bangkok though. If its your first time though, you really can do everything in BKK instead of going to Pattaya, but Pattaya is close so its fine. There are bars all over town and Massage parlors all over town, but most of the recommended ones are fairly concentrated. Gogo's on Soi Cowboy and Nana Entertainment Plaza (soi 4). These would be the main and most popular, but not only, red light districts in the city. The "recommended" PSE massage parlors, especially for those new to the city such as Cherry, Addict, Mango, Snow White, Honey Bee, Bangkok Passion, and Tulip are all located fairly close to each other off Sukhumvit near BTS stations, google can find them all. The cost for one girl 1. 5-2 hrs in an MP is 2000-2500 baht, all inclusive. There's plenty of other places as well if you look through the forum, all around town.
For gogo bar girls (a gogo is similar to a strip club), you pay a "bar fine" to the establishment to take her (600-1000 baht) and then pay for the actual event, for Short time (ST) which is 1-2 hrs or Long Time (LT), longer, often overnight. ST can be 1500-2500, LT can be up to 5000 (but generally less), but there's lots of inbetween, and depends on the girl too. She will quote you a price, you can haggle if you'd like, its fine to, if not simply expected, but don't low ball. You can take these girls to your hotel, or for ST a specific ST room you rent by the hour. Look at the hotel thread for more hotel info.
Etaoin2003
12-12-18, 23:09
I heard there are bars, massage and sauna all over the town, I guess massage or sauna won't be big problems for me, so just wondering if there 's anything I need to know to take a girl in the bar? Like how much I should pay to the bar and the girl, can I take girls back to any hotels (I. E. 100-150 usd per night)? Any famous bars to go and recommended district to stay if I want to check several famous red-light zone? Or anything comes to your mind is welcomed!Check out this link of links: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction.
Be sure she's a she, and that you have an understanding about price and services.
Stay in lower Sukhumvit. Visit Nana Plaza and Soi 4. Visit Soi Cowboy.
Pay less than you expect for your hotel. (Bangkok hotels are cheap by global standards.) Read the hotels thread. In general, if you're going to have a girl problem with a hotel, it will be at a more upscale place.
Banana Boi
12-13-18, 02:42
Like how much I should pay to the bar and the girl, can I take girls back to any hotels (I. E. 100-150 usd per night)? Any famous bars to go and recommended district to stay if I want to check several famous red-light zone? Or anything comes to your mind is welcomed!For Bangkok, as etaoin said go to Nana and soi cowboy. One definite place not to miss is Thermae bar in the basement of the Ruamchit Plaza hotel. Go after 9 pm but not too late or it becomes as crowded as samya at 10 pm on a weekend night. Price is 2500 total with no barfine. If they ask for more they don't want to be with you. Another unique experience in Bangkok is a stroll through Thaniya Road where you will see 100's of better than average looking girls sitting on the road. Do a YouTube search.
For 2 days in pattaya concentrate on walking street and soi 6. Soi 6 from 4 to 8 pm. Walking street from 8 pm til 3 am. No need to deviate from the norm here in a short 2 day stay.
Do try a soapie in either pattaya or Bangkok. We all complain it's mechanical but it is interesting to visit once.
As Bkkdog said, read the forum. I'm mainly helping because you're a FKK guy and know that you will write a report after your trip.
Pahllus Maximus
12-13-18, 03:53
I like 'them ankles behind ears, full in mish anal and spread eagaled in mirror with pussy winking on each thrust. The tragedy is that Snow White apparently no longer allows patron to screw the angelic girls where it is nice and tight, or so I am told. Any suggestions (besides Eden Club).
I guess that until then I will provide some deep tonsil massage and throat rinse. I used to get rimmed and do BBJCIM and / or anal simultaneously, always helps with a nice sleep and / or a massage afterwards. Being a man is good!
Faceless78
12-13-18, 16:15
It will help you to read a few of the different threads in this forum which will answer most questions, but I'm going to humor you a bit here, I'd rather be helpful, but please read through the forum!The big issue I found when searching the whole internet is there are too may information, I have no idea where to start and many of them are just against each other. Honestly I haven't checked in ISG for long, it just suddenly came into my mind that there's one final place to go. So in this way, your words is much appreciated.
Honestly, your questions are so general and everyone has already shared so just RTFF. Out of curorisity, did you read the Bangkok Hotels thread? Did you read my recent summary of the Bangkok scene? Your thanking those who wish to share after your post but if you just go back 10 pages and read forward, you will have all your answers. Your questions are like someone who has never read even one post of the BKK thread. Am I missing something?
If you dont want to search in the BKK thread then you can read the reports in the reports of distinction thread.Yes after one day's search, I realize those are the most basic questions. I was trying to get everything clear in the shortest time so I can book everything and ask for my paid leave. For sure I'll read your reports and all others'. Anyway thanks for replying.
Check out this link of links: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction..Thank you for the sugestion, I've booked one hotel like 500 m from nana, hope everything works out find.
I've never ever noticed the Reports of Distinction, will take some time to explore.
For Bangkok, as etaoin said go to Nana and soi cowboy. One definite place not to miss is Thermae bar in the basement of the Ruamchit Plaza hotel. Go after 9 pm but not too late or it becomes as crowded as samya at 10 pm on a weekend night. Price is 2500 total with no barfine. If they ask for more they don't want to be with you. Another unique experience in Bangkok is a stroll through Thaniya Road where you will see 100's of better than average looking girls sitting on the road. Do a YouTube search.
.Thanks a lot, it's really good to see many FKK guys here, now I understand why my FKK friends suggested me to go Thailand hah.
I walked down Thaniya Wed Night, that is such a hoot. I like talking Japanese to the Mamasabs, freaks them out.
Thermae was wonderful Wed night, not top crowded and I got a bunch of Line IDs.
I like 'them ankles behind ears, full in mish anal and spread eagaled in mirror with pussy winking on each thrust. The tragedy is that Snow White apparently no longer allows patron to screw the angelic girls where it is nice and tight, or so I am told. Any suggestions (besides Eden Club).
I guess that until then I will provide some deep tonsil massage and throat rinse. I used to get rimmed and do BBJCIM and / or anal simultaneously, always helps with a nice sleep and / or a massage afterwards. Being a man is good!Cherry (with the right girls), Tulip (see that thread), Bamboo (same situation as Cherry, but A+ surcharge). Those three would be offering similar services, of course again its not guaranteed except Tulip, but make your concerns known to mamasan and she can point out the right ladies. I suspect there's others floating around that people can call out specific girls at, maybe try the MP thread.
Blanquiceleste
12-13-18, 23:36
While reading some news articles on happenings for the week, I came across the one about a drunk off-duty cop shooting an unfortunate French after a fist fight over a girl. Tragic. Did anyone here know this most unfortunate of gents?
A moment of silence.
And a question. Had it been you with your girlfriend / date for the night and some other drunk came along and misbehaved, what would you do? In the spur of the moment. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision, and its easy to say I will walk away and find another girl. Tough.
While reading some news articles on happenings for the week, I came across the one about a drunk off-duty cop shooting an unfortunate French after a fist fight over a girl. Tragic. Did anyone here know this most unfortunate of gents?If your post is all the information, who as a foreigner gets in a fist fight, with a local, who is an armed policeman, on his own turf, "OVER A GIRL" in Tailand??
Firstly you are never going to win an altercation against a local esp an armed cop. It will always be the foreigner in the wrong. Secondly, why would anyone argue over a girl in Thailand (unless it was his wife etc). Just move on to the next one.
And a question. Had it been you with your girlfriend / date for the night and some other drunk came along and misbehaved, what would you do? In the spur of the moment. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision, and its easy to say I will walk away and find another girl. Tough.I believe prevention is far better than a cure. If I'm with a serious GF or wife I don't go to places where I could accidentally stumble across a drunk homicidal cop. On foreign soil I definitely would not be getting into arguements with one with family present.
Call me a prick but if it was just a girl for the night I would just walk away the moment the situation became remotely aggressive. My presence would just make the situation worse for both me and her.
Franciscass
12-14-18, 01:44
If your post is all the information, who as a foreigner gets in a fist fight, with a local, who is an armed policeman, on his own turf, "OVER A GIRL" in Tailand?Should the Frenchman have walked away. The way it turned out obviously but what if she was his long time girlfriend, the timing 7. 17 AM would suggest otherwise. . Also no way of knowing he was a cop and armed, he was in civies. Most important though is to understand losing face is unacceptable for a Thai-man so a smile and a handshake and walking away is always your best policy.
Status now? Full of old women. I bet the average age is at least 40. IMHO, it's a horror show.Visited it day time / mid-day- Yes Bier Garten is dead, calling it a horror show would be appropriate. There are some customers and girls - but nothing good at all.
The reasons seem obvious the whole street (Soi 7) on both sides is under construction, and Bier Garten is the only establishment left out there, not enough to attract any traffic.
RIP.
While reading some news articles on happenings for the week, I came across the one about a drunk off-duty cop shooting an unfortunate French after a fist fight over a girl. Tragic. Did anyone here know this most unfortunate of gents?
A moment of silence.
And a question. Had it been you with your girlfriend / date for the night and some other drunk came along and misbehaved, what would you do? In the spur of the moment. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision, and its easy to say I will walk away and find another girl. Tough.Here is a bit more on that story, with photos:
https://www.stickboybkk.com/news/frenchman-shot-dead-drunk-cop/
It sounds to me like the Thai guy was more ticked off about losing the fight in the bar and shot him for that instead of shooting him over the girl exactly. But that is just from the way it was reported on that site.
Visited it day time / mid-day- Yes Bier Garten is dead, calling it a horror show would be appropriate.
The reasons seem obvious the whole street (Soi 7) on both sides is under construction, and Bier Garten is the only establishment left out there, not enough to attract any traffic.
RIP.Bamboo Bar (Soi 3) - I think this also is dead, outside facade has totally converted into Middle Eastern food. There seems to be door for the bar in between still, but based on the looks of it- didn't even bother to go in.
So likely another one bites the dust, things do just change over time. Fond memories of past have to be put aside- I did have a couple good ones here.
Overall Soi3 has totally converted into Middle Eastern joint; and actually the Middle Eastern influence has significantly spread beyond Soi3 to Soi5 and beyond all the way to Soi11 (yes). Once upon a time Middle Eastern influence was strictly limited to Grace Hotel-Soi3 (that was 10 yrs ago) - and now it is what it is.
However, did not see any Middle Eastern hookers on the street as such, and actually even inside Grace Hotel Lobby- very different from past. Outside of Grace its the fat-chick HQ- nothing good.
Oh well,
Visited it day time / mid-day- Yes Bier Garten is dead, calling it a horror show would be appropriate.
The reasons seem obvious the whole street (Soi 7) on both sides is under construction, and Bier Garten is the only establishment left out there, not enough to attract any traffic.
RIP.Not sure if I could say it is dead in the evenings. But walking through it at Noon yesterday, I saw there were exactly two ladies sitting in there and maybe one male customer who was nowhere near either of them. Neither looked interesting to us. One was on her cellphone. The other waved and pointed to the barstool next to her when my friend and I walked by. We just nodded, smiled and walked back outside.
Chrome (aka Annie's Soapy massage) is on that street; are they still open?
Visited it day time / mid-day- Yes Bier Garten is dead, calling it a horror show would be appropriate.
The reasons seem obvious the whole street (Soi 7) on both sides is under construction, and Bier Garten is the only establishment left out there, not enough to attract any traffic.
RIP.
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