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What are the rates at Doki Doki?I was there this afternoon and was quoted 3500 for 90 minutes. I think 60 minutes may have been 3000 but did not investigate. On the other hand there was a post either here or on the "MPs other than. " thread that I'm pretty sure had 90 minutes for 2500 so maybe I got handed the "Looks like a complete newbie" tablet with the menu on it.
I chose Olive, one of only three available. Was fairly attractive in keeping with my expectations of Chiang Mai. Good service. Not much to add.
Not talking about brilliant intellects (or me either), but I have met at least a half dozen girls here who are curious and informed enough to ask a pertinent question about the USA, business investments, the stock market, international politics and can hold a conversation about a book they've just read or a movie we've just watched. My current 22 year old main GF's three favorite movies she has asked to be re-played on my big screen home theater system with English language and Thai subtitles? My Fair Lady, The Lion in Winter and African Queen! Hell, I'm not even that big a fan of African Queen. But she wanted to watch it and those others a second time in the past 3 weeks and we talked about them later. The Lion in Winter with Peter O'Toole and (again) Katharine Hepburn! It is a fuckin' filmed stage play! Good movie, too. Yeah, ordinarily her face is locked into place staring at her thumbs skipping around on her smartphone screen. But not all the time.
Other early 20's girls I see off and on are now avid Hitchcock and Kubrick fans, insist on watching anything I've got of their work. And we definitely have a meaningful conversation about what we just watched over dinner and before the fucking and sucking begins anew. Did you know there are revival theaters in Bangkok that show classic American or other foreign movies every month? I went to the first Annual Bangkok Silent Film Festival 2-3 years ago at the Scala and Lido theaters across from Siam Paragon, which featured 7-8 silent films Alfred Hitchcock made and those screenings were packed with Thai people, many girls in their 20s and early 30s, easy to meet and chat with over a mutual interest. Not a comic book action hero movie among the screenings!.Sounds like you have met some winners. If I was single, I'd hope to do the same.
I'm actually quite content with my gal. She's finished her MBA, can hold her own in any conversation, is a militant atheist like myself, is not into any cult of personality, and I sh*t you not does some swimsuit modeling. We have very complimentary personalities as she is not a romantic and is not a touchy feely person either. Neither of us have a jealous bone in our bodies so there is never any games or BS involved. It's easy for the both of us, by far the easiest relationship I've ever had and going on 12 years now. So, not one I'm going to be tossing aside anytime soon.
Christian G
04-19-19, 12:18
I was there this afternoon and was quoted 3500 for 90 minutes. I think 60 minutes may have been 3000 but did not investigate. On the other hand there was a post either here or on the "MPs other than. " thread that I'm pretty sure had 90 minutes for 2500 so maybe I got handed the "Looks like a complete newbie" tablet with the menu on it.
I read many reports about Doki Doki on the web and the price marked for the 90 min is always 3500 baht.
Robert Long
04-20-19, 03:58
This is crazy. Twice now in 2 weeks concerning ladies I have met on TF, have asked for 1000 thb just to meet them? I ask to join me for coffee or lunch and I assumed we could take it from there.
One lady said ok 1000 thb to meet and if you want sex then an additional 3000 thb. Also you must pay for my taxi 400 thb, or I could come to her soi and pay her 4000 thb and a cheap hotel room for 1 hour. She gave the excuse that the only reason she is selling her body is that, "her mother is very sick". And that is the only reason she would ever sell herself.
The second lady wanted to come direct to my room for 3000 thb and taxi of 250 thb. I told her I would like to meet first and check her out before I bought the package. She said fine 1000 thb to meet and then if I wanted her an additional 3000 thb, and her taxi.
I remember one situation a couple of years ago when I required the services of a lady from Craig's list. She agreed on the price and time. When I told her my hotel, The Ambassador, she didn't show. I texted her asking where are you. She responded that to many bad people at my hotel and always not there when she arrived. Too many Indians she said.
So I went out last night and pulled an FL off of soi 7. 1500 thb and she's still here. Fucking in the shower, no condum, she cums every 5 minutes. I should tell her Charlie's rule. " I pay you to leave not for sex. ".
RL.
...I'm actually quite content with my gal. She's finished her MBA, can hold her own in any conversation, is a militant atheist like myself, is not into any cult of personality, and... is not a touchy feely person either. Neither of us have a jealous bone in our bodies so there is never any games or BS involved. It's easy for the both of us, by far the easiest relationship I've ever had and going on 12 years now. So, not one I'm going to be tossing aside anytime soon.I like the idea of no BS in a relationship and no touchy feely. My type of GF, lucky you!
Banana Boi
04-20-19, 04:19
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.Not sure why you label "losers" for guys who like this method. Seems unwarranted. Myself, I just don't have the time for interest for pseudo "dating", and want to see the girls bodies before wasting time too.
Any method that has a good success rate for stunning fun girls, would surely be okay I have no clue what the success rate could be.
Bad guys abound, surely, but the girls would likely know that, and nothing can be done about it. Girls can refuse the guy if get the wrong vibe or just don't want to come to his location, more than likely. I may well get knock backs from girls in Thermae because Farangs in their have a bad reputation for being difficult, or are scarey, or are just too old and grumpy looking. Plenty of guys are getting knockbacks due to racial generalisation reasons too.
When I first came to Thailand, a very high proportion of Thai hookers seemed to enjoy a session or a whole night (compared to pathetic hookers back home), and get money as well. It gets much hard for me to find the same these days. So various alternate methods need to be considered, or tried.
Whatever works for the monger and his taste and purpose!
This is crazy. Twice now in 2 weeks concerning ladies I have met on TF, have asked for 1000 thb just to meet them? I ask to join me for coffee or lunch and I assumed we could take it from there.
One lady said ok 1000 thb to meet and if you want sex then an additional 3000 thb. Also you must pay for my taxi 400 thb, or I could come to her soi and pay her 4000 thb and a cheap hotel room for 1 hour. She gave the excuse that the only reason she is selling her body is that, "her mother is very sick". And that is the only reason she would ever sell herself.
The second lady wanted to come direct to my room for 3000 thb and taxi of 250 thb. I told her I would like to meet first and check her out before I bought the package. She said fine 1000 thb to meet and then if I wanted her an additional 3000 thb, and her taxi.
I remember one situation a couple of years ago when I required the services of a lady from Craig's list. She agreed on the price and time. When I told her my hotel, The Ambassador, she didn't show. I texted her asking where are you. She responded that to many bad people at my hotel and always not there when she arrived. Too many Indians she said.
So I went out last night and pulled an FL off of soi 7. 1500 thb and she's still here. Fucking in the shower, no condum, she cums every 5 minutes. I should tell her Charlie's rule. " I pay you to leave not for sex. ".
RL.Sounds like the Smooci program has leached into those TF girls' agenda; 1000 baht paid upfront on arrival and all that crap. Too bad. Smooci's originally stated program seemed like it might actually serve to ripple out and positively influence the entire Thai P4P scene. Talking about the rating system as originally framed.
But then they lost the plot (and, frankly, were allowed to do so by too many passive, meek and weak punters) and began to chip away at anything and everything that might have provided more necessary leverage for their customers to ensure a great time for a fair price, shifted the leverage to the girls instead and now it is the girls who are calling all the important shots from the moment a customer clicks on the booking button. While many white knight Smooci patrons and supporters applauded the changes. haha.
Now it seems the latter incarnations of the Smooci program have indeed rippled out to influence other P4P options. But in a negative way.
But, no doubt about it, having a live-in gal is a BIG mistake in Thailand, imo, unless you have really settled down in outlying farm country areas away from larger cities and red light districts. I even told the 30 year old I mentioned in my previous post NOT to plan on staying over 3 nights. Two nights in a row is my limit with any one female with the possible exception of my regular main gf. I might be willing to go for a third night in a row with her every few months. Reluctantly.There are some exceptional girls that do not bore me after fucking them 3 days running. A good option though is to meet a girl on alternate days with something else in between.
So I am not burned out by sex. Never got quite enough. Farm / country life far away from the red-lights is not too bad though. Holidays from the Mongering. Have "leg-openers" to make her horny often.
In Bangkok guys get a chance to slip away from the GF and do an MP or ST Hotel meet. However could agree that full time live in girls is not a great idea, unless she is non-jealous type and allowing for possibility the guy might play up a bit.
Once took a Tulip girl on 4 or 5 day holiday, can't remember but was not bored by her at all. Works with very special girls.
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.It can't be many. The girls see the man's profile and photos. He sees hers. They can also video chat soon enough. Girls who are primarily interested in money for sex make it known upfront and very quickly so the man will know about it and a deal can and will be struck ASAP before a time and place to meet is set.
Oh, it isn't known and understood by both sides as quickly as for losers who can't get dates walking into a go-go bar. But quickly.
Banana Boi
04-20-19, 05:27
Oh, it isn't known and understood by both sides as quickly as for losers who can't get dates walking into a go-go bar. But quickly.You tell me. You're much more a Bangkok gogo bar expert than I am. I only assume this because I NEVER actually see you writing any 'Reports' in the 'Reports' threads. Just bickering, complaining, repetitively whining. I gave my opinion about TF yet you decided to turn what I said all around. You seem to do that a lot with a lot of different people on this board.
Maybe you just need to go out more often and get laid. Really helps Anger Management.
You tell me. You're much more a Bangkok gogo bar expert than I am. I only assume this because I NEVER actually see you writing any 'Reports' in the 'Reports' threads. Just bickering, complaining, repetitively whining. I gave my opinion about TF yet you decided to turn what I said all around. You seem to do that a lot with a lot of different people on this board.
Maybe you just need to go out more often and get laid. Really helps Anger Management.I have written reports. Even about go-go bars, barfining go-go girls, etc. So you're wrong about that. I have never claimed to be a better go-go bar expert than anyone else. But maybe you're not wrong about you not actually "seeing" them. How can I control that?
If what I posted turned what you said about TF all around, why not simply correct and clarify it instead of angrily bickering, complaining and whining about it?
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.BB your post was a little difficult to understand, especially as a non TF or similar user. Maybe you were commenting on what other guys write about meeting girls via "dating" apps, who maybe trying to take advantage of girls rather than be taken advantage of, using the so called "dating".
I don't think we can put all guys in a box, the behaviour varies a lot.
It can't be many. The girls see the man's profile and photos. He sees hers. They can also video chat soon enough. Girls who are primarily interested in money for sex make it known upfront and very quickly so the man will know about it and a deal can and will be struck ASAP before a time and place to meet is set.
Oh, it isn't known and understood by both sides as quickly as for losers who can't get dates walking into a go-go bar. But quickly.I don't think ET's response was unreasonable, once I thought I understood it. The "losers" part could be just considered sending you up since you started that phrase. We are well use to ET having slightly exaggerated responses or takes on some issues, but not especially so this time.
So don't be too sensitive, is my advice. Argumentative discussions are quite normal. You are make a provocative post, you have to get responses.
Do any of us post a lot of particular girl experience reports lately? I would if I did any new girls, and had something to offer whether the girl was fun or pathetic.
I have posted on almost all new bargirls and MP girls I tried in the last few years. Sadly some are not available any more. The good ones often don't last long.
XRatedBangkok
04-20-19, 09:30
Stambled on this video
https://xhamster.com/videos/go-go-bar-thai-girl-in-bangkok-very-big-boobs-silicone-11094327
Banana Boi
04-20-19, 09:33
BB your post was a little difficult to understand, especially as a non TF or similar user. Maybe you were commenting on what other guys write about meeting girls via "dating" apps, who maybe trying to take advantage of girls rather than be taken advantage of, using the so called "dating".Was saying that guys are losers if they go on TF, Badoo, etc. Only wanting a free date for companionship or free sex rather than using the sites seeking girls for PAID sexual services.
Just my opinion. If some of you guys fall in to that boat sorry to offend you.
Was saying that guys are losers if they go on TF, Badoo, etc. Only wanting a free date for companionship or free sex rather than seeking girls for PAID sexual services.Many guys claim that girls met are happy to go fuck them for free. Its not clear to me to what extent they may have expected money and did not get it. However not all girls want to be hookers. It is possible for girls to be horny. One would have to do an extended survey of the girls to really understand the variety of their expectations, and even then they would not tell the truth. The smart ones that are hookers, will surely state their price for sex, and why waste time on a dinner, etc.
I suppose there must still be extremely shy girls that cannot say how much money they want, but I don't know the percentage. I still get bar girls that never negotiated a price, but I still pay them very fairly or better if performance, attitude and work rate was above normal.
I think guys that are unsure if their date is a hooker or not, should make an effort to find out, and have her refuse to take money, rather than assume she does not expect any.
One of my regular girls seems to like dick, stamina and oral sex. She doesn't get paid exactly on a per session basis. I am sure she has had many guys pick her up from a club for free and she would be looking for a great fuck. Her type would be typically a lot younger, handsome and more muscly than myself. Would love to have met her 15 years earlier in her prime. She keeps coming back, for multiple reasons, sometimes short of money, sometimes short of a good fuck.
ChicoBarca
04-20-19, 10:45
Just a few words on my own experience with social media. Last year in February I was for the first time in Thailand (BKK) and a total newbie and I still consider myself as such even though I have had 4 trips there since all with different experiences. The first time in BKK I used Tinder before my travel and had some good conversation with quite a few. Since I was travelling solo I found it to be an excellent way to meet Thai girls for the first time. A typical first meeting would be for a drink, the reason for this is if there is no chemistry it's a quick retreat. That didn't happen though. Then we could go for something to eat and to a bar afterwards. I have no issues about spending money for a good time, even if it should not end up with a happy ending. This was never the case though. And after the bedroom drill normally now late morning, I took the money up and was declined. All they wanted was taxi money since they have stayed later than expected and was in a hurry. For those of you senior guys here, you would probably say rookie mistake and I was lucky, and I would not disagree. My experience is from South America and the monger scene there, so here I'm a rookie learning to swim again.
The last experience I had was from Jomtien where I met up with some friends. Since this was a work related trip and only for a couple of days I didn't collect a lot of experience there. Well, we met up in a bar there and while I sat down with them I could sense that the bar girls could smell rookie blood. It's a long time since I have got this much attention from like 8-10 girls (only 2 of them that I found doable). Then out from no where a quite stunning girl came up, looked at all the girls and said, "he's mine". My friends looked at me and said with disbelief, what the F% just happen? They said this was the mamasan, and they have tried for a week to get her. Well, the drinking continued and the other girls still tried to get me, but could not get the mamasan out of my head. But she didn't show any interest at all, rather seemed quite cold. So by closing time I thought, well I wasted that night, nothing is going to happen. So we all left and since my hotel was in an other direction than the others we split up. I went around the corner and to the back side of the bar. And while I was walking up the street I heard a voice "Hi, did you forget me already? I looked up and there she was, the mamasan. We talked for some minutes and then she asked, where do you stay and can I see your room? Of course, I was like a kid on Christmas. Well, she was a firework and she stayed to late morning. And when I tried to sneak some money to her, she just looked at me and said. The only thing I want is that when you come here next time you promise to choose a hotel further away from the bar, I don't want the girls to discover this. So, my point is that even when you want to pay, some girls just don't want it. And just to make it clear, I'm pretty sure I'm not a 10 for the girls. Hehehehe. So that's definitely not the reason.
BB your post was a little difficult to understand, especially as a non TF or similar user. Maybe you were commenting on what other guys write about meeting girls via "dating" apps, who maybe trying to take advantage of girls rather than be taken advantage of, using the so called "dating".
I don't think we can put all guys in a box, the behaviour varies a lot.
I don't think ET's response was unreasonable, once I thought I understood it. The "losers" part could be just considered sending you up since you started that phrase. We are well use to ET having slightly exaggerated responses or takes on some issues, but not especially so this time.
Many guys claim that girls met are happy to go fuck them for free. Its not clear to me to what extent they may have expected money and did not get it. However not all girls want to be hookers. It is possible for girls to be horny. One would have to do an extended survey of the girls to really understand the variety of their expectations, and even then they would not tell the truth. The smart ones that are hookers, will surely state their price for sex, and why waste time on a dinner, etc.
I use TF a lot. I prefer to meet semi-pros, who do it for extra buck and TF is one of a good place to find them (and I just don't like Thermae, so that's not an option for me). I had few of my best fucks, with the girls I met on TF. They are not the ones who do it 5 times a day like massage girls, and every night like gogo girls. And it's pretty easy to tell which girl is ready to accept money for sex, but don't do it often.
And I agree with you, the regular freelancers don't waste time with dates, and tell the price upfront, which saves everyone's time.
I only met one girl on TF, who I fucked for free, because she never asked and she has a lot of money, I think more than me. She was just looking for a fuck-buddy, and luckily I was her type. We meet every week, and she stays for night and leave in morning. Won't have met her, if it wasn't for TF.
P.S. : I agree with bb's comment that TF has many "losers" who wastes girl's times, but TF is still a great place for those who can invest some time.
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I think guys that are unsure if their date is a hooker or not, should make an effort to find out, and have her refuse to take money, rather than assume she does not expect any.
...I have to say this is an issue that pops up every now and then on the dating sites; girls who come on a bit sexy and forward but don't make it clear upfront that they expect money for sex. And then it turns out they get VERY insulted to the point of blocking you if you so much as ask for clarification. It happens. Maybe girls like that are playing games.
But the uncertainty can go further. Case in point was a girl I met on Tinder last week. No mention of being a FL or needing support / money the way some Tinder girls will. She did mention she was unemployed and looking for a job. We carried on enthusiastic conversations right up until she accepted a date to meet for lunch or dinner and I dared to let her know I intended to take care of the costs of dinner, movie, whatever we do when we meet. Her being unemployed and all.
"Why you tell me that?! Why you pay for my meal?! Do you think I am bargirl? I not bargirl! Not every Thai lady is same!"
She immediately unMatched me. LOL.
And it has gone the other way a few times, too, where there is no mention of money, the girl insists on paying for her own meal and our taxi ride. Then on her way out after a night of sex I offer to pay for her transportation or anything else she needs and the girl says nothing except how she hopes we can meet again soon. LOL.
What do you do then? Hand her the going rate for ST or LT, depending on how long she was with you and risk her outrage for not seeing this night as the first on our long march to the marriage altar? Hand her enough for taxi and see if her facial expression fills in the blanks?
Was saying that guys are losers if they go on TF, Badoo, etc. Only wanting a free date for companionship or free sex rather than using the sites seeking girls for PAID sexual services.
Just my opinion. If some of you guys fall in to that boat sorry to offend you.BB, I wasn't trying to turn around what you posted to mean anything other than that. As far as TF girls being victimized by "losers" wasting their time goes, I also meant that there are probably as many quick and effective safeguards against that happening with direct P4P girls, FLs, on TF as there are in other options, even go-go bars.
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.There are probably a lot of shitty guys on TF but the vast majority of these girls are not better in my opinion.
Before my last trip I spent a lot of time trying to find decent girls (I'm not meaning stunners, just average girls that look actually decent), and I spotted only very few.
Most of them didn't even reply, the cutest ones are only for premium members, and every thing else are garbage, bottom of the barrels in what Bangkok has to offer.
Finally I had 2 girls gave me their Line ID. Once I was in Bkk, I texted both of them, the first one read the messages but didn't find it worth answering me and the other one didn't want to meet up. So who is wasting whose time?
I deleted both of them. Most of these girls are very below average girls that act as if they were stunners. TF is worth the pain only for guys living there and having a lot of time to waste. You're wrong if you think guys are wasting these girls time, they just open their app continuously and reply to message once in a while. If actually guys were wasting their time, I think it would be well deserved.
Sounds like the Smooci program has leached into those TF girls' agenda; 1000 baht paid upfront on arrival and all that crap. Too bad.We all know that you don't like Smooci but to be fair, this 1000 paid upfront (in Smooci, not from the TF girls as in the post below) is probably to protect themselves from the many "losers" that they might meet.
I used Smooci several times and had never been asked to pay upfront by any girls (but never met the "independent" ones).
And frankly if the girls from TF knew about Smooci, don't you think they would make an account on Smooci and charge these higher rates? These TF girls are the bottom of the barrel and are completely clueless to what happens around them.
Hello mongers,
I wanted some action other than the usual Spa / massage places, so this time I went to a famous Beer garden on Soi 7. There was no bar fee or drink requirement, still out of courtesy got one drink and roamed around the bar, could not find 1 single girl I wanted to take with me, some time later I like this one chick who was nice looking and was the only one I was interested to take, but she was already chatting with a old white dude and would not even consider talking with me. I waited for her for almost 30 minutes (yes she was hot) but same cold response. By this time bar was almost closing so I left. I was now a bit thirsty so walked to nearest 7-11 and bought myself a drink. I was standing outside having my drink and all those ladies who were at the bar came to the same seven eleven and sat near me, still some perusing me.
Also there was this 2 chicks who were kinda hot walked by, but they kind of looked liked lady boy. Usually I am good at spotting them, but this was a tough one for me. So decided not to risk.
So now I walked towards soi 11 where I remember there were bunch massage places open 24 hrs, so but to my surprise they were not there now. So I called Uber to go back empty handed.
The uber guy had some problems reaching my location and there was language problem with us, so I stopped a girl walking by who I thought would know English as she looked bit upscale, to help me talk to uber, which she did perfectly and told me that he was in opposite soi and would take him 5 minutes to reach me. I said thank you to her. Then she asks me if I wanted her to come with me. I was surprised as she looked like noral shopping malll girl, I asked the price she quoted me 3500, I didn't even try to negotiate, just asked her if she will show good time and if she does BJ, bot were solid yes.
So in come our uber and we go to my hotel, she told me she works in pratunam mall during the day and she occasionally does this when she needs some extra cash. She gave me a awesome BJ, her tits and figure was awesome, did her doggy and finished with Anal. We chatted a bit, after which I don't know when we fell asleep. When I woke up, saw her leaving and waving hand. Was still sleepy so didn't get up. Later realized. Darn didn't get the number.
Overall amazing night of my life.
the price marked for the 90 min is always 3500 baht.Thanks. I didn't think I looked THAT gullible!
Last night I stopped in at Charoen Pharmacy on Suk between Soi 4 and the overpass for my visit supplies. It was almost completely empty, all the shelving units bare and pushed together. The counter where the magic blue pills live was still there and staffed, but not for long: They will be closing at the end of the month. It's been my go-to place for something like four years, ever since it was recommended by, I think, Syzygies.
Last night I stopped in at Charoen Pharmacy on Suk between Soi 4 and the overpass for my visit supplies. It was almost completely empty, all the shelving units bare and pushed together. The counter where the magic blue pills live was still there and staffed, but not for long: They will be closing at the end of the month. It's been my go-to place for something like four years, ever since it was recommended by, I think, Syzygies.Sorry to hear you squandered four years. The pharmacy inside Foodland on Soi 5 is / was cheaper.
SL.
Last night I stopped in at Charoen Pharmacy on Suk between Soi 4 and the overpass for my visit supplies. It was almost completely empty, all the shelving units bare and pushed together. The counter where the magic blue pills live was still there and staffed, but not for long: They will be closing at the end of the month. It's been my go-to place for something like four years, ever since it was recommended by, I think, Syzygies.Is it the "big" one? Or a small one just next door run by some Chinese race Thai. I hope it is not this one closing.
Opposite the entrance of NEP there is one selling whatever you need.
Banana Boi
04-20-19, 18:19
How much is a customer drink? I am used to 160 to 170 Baht in Bangkok although some bars are cheaper than that for non-alcoholic.
I don't usually keep track of drink prices so I couldn't respond until I went out tonight. Skipped going out on the crazy final day of Songkran. I ordered the exact same non-alcoholic drink in the 6 bars I visited tonight. Beer and other alcoholic drinks would be significantly more expensive.
Walking Street.
Baccara 155.
PinUp 90.
Palace 110.
Panda 130.
LK Metro.
Dolls 95.
Kink 115.
So really a cheap night out if you don't buy lady drinks. 690 baht for 4.5 hours. Unfortunately, I always buy lady drinks.
Jimmy Boy 99
04-20-19, 23:19
I don't usually keep track of drink prices so I couldn't respond until I went out tonight. Skipped going out on the crazy final day of Songkran. I ordered the exact same non-alcoholic drink in the 6 bars I visited tonight. Beer and other alcoholic drinks would be significantly more expensive.
Walking Street.
Baccara 155.
PinUp 90.
Palace 110.
Panda 130.
LK Metro.
Dolls 95.
Kink 115.
So really a cheap night out if you don't buy lady drinks. 690 baht for 4.5 hours. Unfortunately, I always buy lady drinks.In many Pattaya gogos it is actually cheaper to drink draft beer, at least during happy hour, which they heavily advertise with signs held up by the girls outside the gogos, than non-alcoholic drinks. And some gogos, although they don't advertise it, have cheap draft beer prices on their drink menus, like Palace, which has (had?) a 95 baht draft beer on it's drink menu.
Robert Long
04-21-19, 01:15
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.Free Sex is an Oxymoron, it's never free. If you have a lady GF her needs out weigh the price you pay for an FL. All the cosmetics and facial masks and paint the nails and shampoo and conditioner and then feed her the same as we eat. Take her with you when you travel and then it really gets expensive.
I have had Ladies that have accused me of wanting free sex and I just laugh. Experience tells that a relationship with a lady lasts one year if it's good. I get tired of fucking the same lady after 1 month. Variety is the spice of life. It's in our genes and males are meant to hunt and kill and bring home the bacon.
RL.
CzarNicholas
04-21-19, 01:32
Free Sex is an Oxymoron, it's never free. If you have a lady GF her needs out weigh the price you pay for an FL. All the cosmetics and facial masks and paint the nails and shampoo and conditioner and then feed her the same as we eat. Take her with you when you travel and then it really gets expensive.
I have had Ladies that have accused me of wanting free sex and I just laugh. Experience tells that a relationship with a lady lasts one year if it's good. I get tired of fucking the same lady after 1 month. Variety is the spice of life. It's in our genes and males are meant to hunt and kill and bring home the bacon.
RL.Just had a girl come to my room from dating site.
No long term messaging online, just came to my room (23 yo).
Fucked me like a porn star and left, didn't ask for $$.
Not even for transportation, great pussy for free!
I did a couple walking street bar girls for free, didn't even buy them a drink!! (both early 20's).
I didn't even ask them for it, I bought one breakfast.
And sent the other home because she wouldn't stop coughing because of the air con!!
I think guys say it doesn't exist because they don't want you asking for it LOL.
They want you to be the sucker that pays! Whilst they fuck her for free.
Robert Long
04-21-19, 01:44
I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.I agree, if a guy can't get a date in Thailand he is a loser. The WG industry has evolved in a sense that many ladies that used to have to go to clubs or stand by the road, now have the social media to advertise their wears. They can sit in their room and set up appointments, not having to stand by the wall at Nana Hotel.
Personally I don't like beating the bushes for a lady although I agree that being able to check out the body and attitude of a lady in the bar or club has it's pluses. I have a bar I go to in Cowboy and I know the managers and the ladies. They trust me and always ask if I will take them after closing.
So lets agree that there are many roads to take to acquire what we want and that all have there benefits and drawbacks. I have met many ladies on TF that were great and some that were not. Such is life.
RL.
CzarNicholas
04-21-19, 04:47
Just had a girl come to my room from dating site.
No long term messaging online, just came to my room (23 yo).
Fucked me like a porn star and left, didn't ask for $$.
Not even for transportation, great pussy for free!
I did a couple walking street bar girls for free, didn't even buy them a drink!! (both early 20's).
I didn't even ask them for it, I bought one breakfast..My apologies for not mentioning where I am!
Sorry to hear you squandered four years.
SL.Hey. I'm an upscale, classy guy! No bargain boners for me!
Thanks! Would it be inappropriate to say that I'll think of you when reaping the harvest of your info?
Is it the "big" one?After popping the pill it was.
Yes, it is / was the one on the right as you faced them, the one with two or maybe even three ways in from the street.
After popping the pill it was.
Yes, it is / was the one on the right as you faced them, the one with two or maybe even three ways in from the street.Thanks.
I use the other one.
I agree, if a guy can't get a date in Thailand he is a loser. The WG industry has evolved in a sense that many ladies that used to have to go to clubs or stand by the road, now have the social media to advertise their wears. They can sit in their room and set up appointments, not having to stand by the wall at Nana Hotel.
True, if you can't get girls to date in Thailand, you will going to have a very hard time in other parts of world. If you have little bit of game, and look little bit of fit and young (no need to be Chris Hemsworth), just approach the girls, no need for TF or other apps. Just for the fuck's sake, approach her, and what's on the line anyway, other than out ego. Most of the girls are happy to sleep with you, and if you will be nice to her (not talking about money or shopping for her) she would love to see you.
Saying that, yes, you need time for this, and tourists usually don't have this luxury. But free sex is always feels better than paid one, others can counter it by that her expenses will make it more expensive. But I have never paid for any expenses for my casual dates, other than dinner bill. I message them to meet, had dinner and then come to room with her. Then she leaves. I don't go with them for movies, and shopping spree.
Stambled on this video
https://xhamster.com/videos/go-go-bar-thai-girl-in-bangkok-very-big-boobs-silicone-11094327Thanks. This video did nothing for me, but there was a great amateur handjob / BBBJ clip from a legit looking massage place. The masseuse had a great technique. Xvideo and xnxx doesn't have this range of amateur clips from Bangkok.
I agree, if a guy can't get a date in Thailand he is a loser. RL.I don't know what compels you guys to make remarks like this. Wish to look down on some unfortunate guys who don't appeal to girls for one reason or another? I am sure the assholes can still get a girl.
Seems similar to racist remarks to me.
You could easily just say that getting a date is easy. Very undesirable Farangs can get seemingly better Thai girls, although. A lot of people are looking for partners not by looks, so don't necessarily meet my specs.
Saw a video of a middle aged Thai woman who makes Youtube cooking videos and has a very much younger Farang guy. Maybe he fell for her cooking.
It is well known the girls in Thailand outnumber the men, and live longer, and gays and LBs diminish the man supply. A very large number of older Thai women are wanting to find a new partner, which could well be a foreigner. However they maybe somewhat racially influenced in their choice.
Many are sick of very unreliable Thai men that just run away with younger women. So the level of female availability is very high. Whether they are willing to just go for sex, in hope to hook the guy, I don't know. I don't go there.
I never had problems to get a Thai GF myself, rather the opposite, how avoid getting one accidentally. It takes a lot of determination. The only thing saving me from getting a new Thai GF, is having a long term one already.
Certainly I meet plenty of new pretty candidates, who are probably interested me mainly for financial reasons.
I. e. They don't know how they will support their child, or family etc.
Many young Thai girls don't have the education and means to get a very well paying job. This leads to hooking as a strong option.
And only percentage cannot do that. Having a rich benefactor is always highly desirable option.
Not only can we get a girlfriend, we can get one better looking than what we deserve back in home country. My mum met long term GF by video call. She commented after she was surprised at how pretty my girl was (she did not want to say "hot" as well I guess). However better looking than younger brothers wives, and better than my previous girlfriends easily. I don't to be having a long term partner where I have no desire to fuck her.
Saw the top plus-sized model on the internet pics. Stunning face, but body was just to big for me to contemplate doing (if had the chance). So have to hope my GF never gets to that size. Really big ass does not really work for me. I need the gap between thighs too.
I don't usually keep track of drink prices so I couldn't respond until I went out tonight. Skipped going out on the crazy final day of Songkran. I ordered the exact same non-alcoholic drink in the 6 bars I visited tonight. Beer and other alcoholic drinks would be significantly more expensive.
Walking Street.
Baccara 155.
PinUp 90.
Palace 110.
Panda 130.
LK Metro.
Dolls 95.
Kink 115.
So really a cheap night out if you don't buy lady drinks. 690 baht for 4.5 hours. Unfortunately, I always buy lady drinks.looks cheaper for sure overall. Is that for a glass or for a can / bottle, I forgot that my drinks are mostly price for a can or a bottle of soda, rather than a glass (non-alcoholic). So I guess I get two glasses out of a can, and I use reduced ice. I hate too much ice to weaken the fizz. And taste.
I don't always buy lady drinks. Has to a girl I know well or a new one that really interests me, before I bother. Exception is when I want to ask her some research questions, like "which girls are not Coyotes? How much is the barfine? etc."
Hello mongers,
I wanted some action other than the usual Spa / massage places, so this time I went to a famous Beer garden on Soi 7. There was no bar fee or drink requirement, still out of courtesy got one drink and roamed around the bar, could not find 1 single girl I wanted to take with me, some time later I like this one chick who was nice looking and was the only one I was interested to take, but she was already chatting with a old white dude and would not even consider talking with me. I waited for her for almost 30 minutes (yes she was hot) but same cold response. By this time bar was almost closing so I left. I was now a bit thirsty so walked to nearest 7-11 and bought myself a drink. I was standing outside having my drink and all those ladies who were at the bar came to the same seven eleven and sat near me, still some perusing me.
Also there was this 2 chicks who were kinda hot walked by, but they kind of looked liked lady boy. Usually I am good at spotting them, but this was a tough one for me. So decided not to risk.
So now I walked towards soi 11 where I remember there were bunch massage places open 24 hrs, so but to my surprise they were not there now. So I called Uber to go back empty handed..Uber has not been in business for over a year.
ChicoBarca
04-21-19, 11:26
I couldn't agree more with you, when I mongered in South America bar and club jumping was the way I did it. Now several (to many years later) new technology opens new scenes. And no matter how careful you are either for the girl or the guy, the risk for a rotten tomato is still there. That is regardless of which method you are using. Looser? Well, who is who is not up to me to judge. I would say different strokes for different folks.
Not sure why you label "losers" for guys who like this method. Seems unwarranted. Myself, I just don't have the time for interest for pseudo "dating", and want to see the girls bodies before wasting time too.
Any method that has a good success rate for stunning fun girls, would surely be okay I have no clue what the success rate could be.
Bad guys abound, surely, but the girls would likely know that, and nothing can be done about it. Girls can refuse the guy if get the wrong vibe or just don't want to come to his location, more than likely. I may well get knock backs from girls in Thermae because Farangs in their have a bad reputation for being difficult, or are scarey, or are just too old and grumpy looking. Plenty of guys are getting knockbacks due to racial generalisation reasons too.
Biggusdickus
04-24-19, 05:54
Uber has not been in business for over a year.In order to add this one line remark it is not needed to cite a screen length of the original message. Please use common sense when citing other board members postings!
ChicoBarca
04-24-19, 16:30
Uber has not been in business for over a year.They are cooperating with Grab since 8th of April last year.
Chico.
Blanquiceleste
04-25-19, 00:47
They are cooperating with Grab since 8th of April last year.
Chico.They have sold their business in SEA to Grab in exchange for a stake in Grab. Call that what you will.
Likewise in China they sold out to local player Didi.
ChicoBarca
04-25-19, 01:44
Same same but different.
Chico.
They have sold their business in SEA to Grab in exchange for a stake in Grab. Call that what you will.
Likewise in China they sold out to local player Didi.
Member #4698
04-25-19, 04:14
1. I landed in BKK on Monday night. Showered and shaved, then headed out around 11;30 PM in the middle of a torrential downpour. Good thing Thermae was right around the corner. Ha Ha. But never saw Thermae so quiet with so few customers or girls. No matter, I spotted a cute spinner in front of a table along the right hand side. She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up! That is how easy Thermae is. Nice girl.
2 a. Tuesday my Mini showed up at my hotel around 5 pm. We drank some high quality Mescal that I had brought from home. No worm in the bottle. 555. She loved the present I gave her: a Coach Pocket purse with Mini Mouse on the front. We boom boomed, drank some more and then grabbed a taxi to Rut & Lek in Chinatown. I was really plastered and so was Mini from the 3/4 of a fifth of mescal that we drank and the taxi ride was one big blur 555, but I began to pull myself together when I began eating. The food was excellent. I always like going to this restaurant and Chinatown is great, but it is a distance away from my normal haunts.
After dinner we went back to my hotel. Mini was still a little far gone and needed her beauty sleep so I put her in a taxi and waved bye bye. I will see her again probably on Sunday at her apartment.
2 b. As soon as Mini's taxi left, I jumped into another taxi and went to Patpong. It was around 11:30. Upon arrival I immediately went into Kings Castle 1. It was fairly crowded, but I have seen it much busier. Anyway, lots of girls, high quality line up of thin, natural breast, attractive Thai girls. A number of them smiled and seemed interested. I picked one over 3 or 4 others for no particular reason except I liked her smile and tight little body. I bought her a drink, we held hands, she rubbed my cock, yada yada yada. I asked her one specific question: did she like to kiss? Her answer was to plant a kiss on my lips with her little tongue protruding. Boom. I barfined her. But since I had left my hotel room in a very used condition, I decided we should go to a ST hotel. No Problem. She knew of one right around the corner. I had also forgot to bring my Sagami. Again no problem, she had. LOL. So a very nice tryst ensued. Soapy shower, BBBJ in shower, BBBJ on bed, DATY, DFK, and covered safe sex in multiple positions. After we exchanged Line ID's. I like this one and Plan to see her again. It was now around 1:30. Patpong was begging to close. I took a nightcap in Kings Castle 2. It was kind of empty, but I liked the look of several girls in this place too. I plan to start here next time I visit Patpong.
3. Wednesday heeded to Nana. Twister was my first stop. It was 8:30 pm. Not much going on. I say only a couple of girls on left hand stage were worthy of my interest, but they seemed preoccupied and did not really look my way. The girls on the right had stage seemed totally worthless to me. I hung around for a full rotation and I might have asked a girl over, but decided to check out some other bars first.
Next went to Billboard. The scene here was totally better. Lots of customers and the girls seemed to be in party mode especially the hot tub girls. I saw a number of attractive girls; 2 or 3 spinner hot tub girls with natural ta ta's looked real fine and a number of tall thin natural girls on the carousel looked good to me as well. But for some crazy reason I was captured by the looked of this blond, heavily tattooed, silly cone hot tub girl. Normally a girl like her would be the opposite of the kind of girl I go for, but for some reason I could not take my eye off her. Anyway she came over after her set and we went to a booth for more privacy. She was so tattooed, 555, and large silly cones on her otherwise very nice tight little body. I put my arm around her and she began rubbing my cock. I noticed her skin was very soft, yet firm, she said she was 23. Long story short: I asked her if she liked to kiss and her answer was to stick her tongue in my mouth as she continued to rub my cock. Boom! But don't get the wrong idea guys. She was still quite demure and nice too. I liked her and despite her full body tattoos and sillies I went for it with my eyes wide open. My theory is that sometimes you have to trust your instincts and go for it even if the girl is not your preferred type. You never know who is going to light your fire until your cock is in her pussy and you are getting it on. I have been surprised by this many many times. And last night was no exception. I had a real good time with my Billboard girl, we exchanged Line ID's and I plan to see her again too.
To recap: 3 nights /4 girls. All good. All fun.
Winners: KC1 and Billboard great bars with very good lineups. Honorable mention KC2. Apparent loser: Twister not a total disaster, but not as good as in it's hey days. Still there were a few lookers in there and I will return again. Holding off final judgement until then.
Hey guys going to BKK again soon, asked about big boob girls last time I went and did OK, but had to search a ton, which wasn't bad, but trying to narrow down my timeline this time. I don't mind going from bar to bar and MP to MP, but it just takes so long, so asking for help as I'd rather go to a lady that stands out instead of browsing for hours. The western places I go its so easy to find, but Thailand big boobs are always a tough one to me as Thai girls are the master's of faking boobs in pictures with the push ups (which makes looking on MP websites hard), and its just not all the big a thing compared to the japanese / kawaii look and such which is so popular, but boobs aren't.
Any suggestions for girls Go-gos or girls MPs with really big boobs, real or fake, DD+ or more type stuff. Would prefer not to go with a fat girl of course, but curvy is fine, really just looking for some big juggs for one of the nights I'm there, to mix in with the other stuff.
Banana Boi
04-25-19, 04:56
I spotted a cute spinner in front of a table along the right hand side. She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up! That is how easy Thermae is. Absolutely true yet guys on here make Thermae seem like an impossible pipe dream having to compete with all the Asians.
Thanks for the great review, Natty. Looking forward to the reading the rest of your BKK trip.
Good thing Thermae was right around the corner.Natty I seem to remember that you enjoyed similar hotels as I do price point wise. Where have you parked yourself in BKK and what do you think of the hotel?
1. I landed in BKK on Monday night. Showered and shaved, then headed out around 11;30 PM in the middle of a torrential downpour. Good thing Thermae was right around the corner. Ha Ha. But never saw Thermae so quiet with so few customers or girls. No matter, I spotted a cute spinner in front of a table along the right hand side. She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up! That is how easy Thermae is. Nice girl.
...So we're no longer discussing/negotiating prices with Thermae girls and they aren't bringing it up either?
Great!
Now, as long as the word "kiss" is universally accepted among Thermae girls (and go-go bar girls) to be code for "BBFS+CIP", then Thermae has officially evolved into a fantastic destination for hassle-free real sex for whatever amount of money we feel the girl deserves after the deed is done. (insert non-existant smiling and winking emoji here)
Thanks for the report, btw.
YetAnotherGuy
04-25-19, 08:57
Apparent loser: Twister not a total disaster, but not as good as in it's hey days. Still there were a few lookers in there and I will return again. Holding off final judgement until then.I agree, Twister is past its prime (which isn't to say that it's impossible to find someone there). It might be worth giving the newish Geisha on the 3rd floor a look. They seem to be offering the girls a better deal than some other places, so a number of girls have moved there from their former haunts.
Banana Boi
04-25-19, 09:06
It might be worth giving the newish Geisha on the 3rd floor a look. They seem to be offering the girls a better deal than some other places, so a number of girls have moved there from their former haunts.Exactly what I would do if I ran a gogo bar. Offer top girls a better cut so I attract the best girls in the city.
Exactly what I would do if I ran a gogo bar. Offer top girls a better cut so I attract the best girls in the city.Be careful. You do realize your competitors have some pretty final solutions for dealing with those that don't play ball. . . LOL.
Blanquiceleste
04-25-19, 13:45
To recap: 3 nights /4 girls. All good. All fun.
Thanks for the great review, Natty. Looking forward to the reading the rest of your BKK trip.Thanks for the great report NB. However, according to some members all this great reporting is either pure fantasy or the girls were dogs. Because there are no pics. Go figure! 5555.
Refer to the SSIT thread for the full lowdown.
I agree, Twister is past its prime (which isn't to say that it's impossible to find someone there). It might be worth giving the newish Geisha on the 3rd floor a look. They seem to be offering the girls a better deal than some other places, so a number of girls have moved there from their former haunts.BF at Geisha is 1000 to 1300 in comparison to Billboard and Butterflies which is 700.
At least at Nana, seems like Billboard and Butterflies have a better atmosphere and more people and girls. Doesn't seem like they have hotter girls just more of them to choose from which adds a bit to the experience while management at both places encourage the girls to be active. Twister on the ground floor was mostly dead and girls just standing around on stage which kills the vibe; Twister on the 2nd floor was fun.
BF at Geisha is 1000 to 1300 in comparison to Billboard and Butterflies which is 700.
At least at Nana, seems like Billboard and Butterflies have a better atmosphere and more people and girls. Doesn't seem like they have hotter girls just more of them to choose from which adds a bit to the experience while management at both places encourage the girls to be active. Twister on the ground floor was mostly dead and girls just standing around on stage which kills the vibe; Twister on the 2nd floor was fun.1000 to 1300 for BF? Man its getting rough in those spots. I mean its not that much overall at the end of the day, just that's pretty unexpected, maybe the jap trap is fully happening there. Billboard always seems better anyways though, especially the atmosphere as you said so I rarely even step into check out Geisha. I'd also put Angelwitch as a fun one, girls are good but variable there as its a smaller spot though.
CzarNicholas
04-25-19, 23:39
She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up!
A few questions? Is there anything you can do do quantify her looks in any way? Foto? Age? BBBJ? BBFS? CIM? Cip? BLS? Rimming? DATY? What did you pay? For how long? How many pops? Kiss? DFK?
1000 to 1300 for BF? Man its getting rough in those spots. I mean its not that much overall at the end of the day, just that's pretty unexpected, maybe the jap trap is fully happening there. Billboard always seems better anyways though, especially the atmosphere as you said so I rarely even step into check out Geisha. I'd also put Angelwitch as a fun one, girls are good but variable there as its a smaller spot though.Oddly enough, long time at Billboard, Butterflies, and Geisha is 6000. Of course, you can attempt to negotiate this down and many times you can. Just read an article that Stick release saying Geisha LDs are 200, but it was 170 when I visited just a few days ago and the LD shots were 200.
BF at Geisha is 1000 to 1300 in comparison to Billboard and Butterflies which is 700.
...A higher barfine in a Nana Plaza go-go bar has from my experience tended to indicate the girls are more amenable to at least understanding why the punter would expect more from them than the basic "lick around the edges (if that), cover up and proceed" fare. And they have been more amenable to agreeing upfront to provide what I have termed a "True GFE" and have been increasingly hearing on the ground from other mongers as "real sex" vs "safe sex". I am referring to BBFS+CIP or whatever else gets it done for some of us where standard, covered 'safe sex" will not.
It has been that way for me in several Nana go-go bars where certain supposedly Special girls require a higher barfine than others. Unlike many, most of those girls will not act shocked by the question if the higher barfine means the customer ought to get more or better service in this way. And that is a short step to them agreeing to it as well.
But that has not been confined to just the girls in such a bar who are commanding the higher barfine either. Seems the lower barfine girls have designs on joining the Special Girls Club too and have observed the way to do that is in making sure they get no complaints, good reports to the mamasans and notably greater numbers of repeat customers.
No guarrantees, of course. Just stating what has tended to be the case for me in two tier barfine Nana Plaza go-go bars.
I have not tried pulling from Geisha Bar yet.
CzarNicholas
04-26-19, 02:54
BF at Geisha is 1000 to 1300 in comparison to Billboard and Butterflies which is 700.
At least at Nana, seems like Billboard and Butterflies have a better atmosphere and more people and girls. Doesn't seem like they have hotter girls just more of them to choose from which adds a bit to the experience while management at both places encourage the girls to be active. Twister on the ground floor was mostly dead and girls just standing around on stage which kills the vibe; Twister on the 2nd floor was fun.1st one vomited all over whilst trying to deepthroat me.
2nd promised anal didn't even get the tip in.
3rd one tried stealing money from me after sex.
I heard the closet door bang whilst I was in the shower.
I left the water running and came out quietly and caught her red handed with money in her hand.
And to make matters worse she got really shitty with me, I went back and told the mamasan the whole story, she just seemed really annoyed.
I'll never go back.
High prices.
Ugly girls.
Houston Player
04-26-19, 04:34
I had some friends in town visiting so I took them to Cowboy and then Nana. They wanted to see as many of the better bars as possible so they could decide which bars they would visit again alone. After leaving Billboards we went around the corner and Geisha was closed.
The surprise of the night for me was Rainbow one. I hadn't been in there for some time and they had a very good selection. (I was drunk by then so it may have affected my vision).
I had some friends in town visiting so I took them to Cowboy and then Nana. They wanted to see as many of the better bars as possible so they could decide which bars they would visit again alone. After leaving Billboards we went around the corner and Geisha was closed.
The surprise of the night for me was Rainbow one. I hadn't been in there for some time and they had a very good selection. (I was drunk by then so it may have affected my vision).Rumor has it the Geisha Bar owner has a problem paying his liquor bill on time. Or at all. But only a rumor I have heard and read.
Member #4698
04-26-19, 06:30
She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up!
A few questions? Is there anything you can do do quantify her looks in any way? Foto? Age? BBBJ? BBFS? CIM? Cip? BLS? Rimming? DATY? What did you pay? For how long? How many pops? Kiss? DFK?No foto. I don't post fotos on the open forum and I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girls plus I have been burned in the past by pencil dicks who actually showed a girl her photos I had posted on the ISG. The Ass Wipe!
Her age was 22. DFK yes. BBBJ yes, that's (bbbj) standard with most girls. I used a condom for sex. DATY was available, but I chose not to avail myself for one reason or another. I don't go down on every girl I am with. I would sum up her looks as a young, no fat spinner, with a cute little face and smile, natural "b" cup thai tities. Very nice to look at, but not a stunner or model quality.
Here is what you should get from my report: That there are many similar, nice looking, regular, girl next door types in Thermae every night of the week. Most are pretty nice and will show you a good time if you treat them good. There was nothing really memorable about my girl. It was just a casual, pleasant little romp. I was 24 hours on a friggin' jet, bouncing off the walls, it was raining cats and dogs, and I found this nice little girl to take the load off. In 3 months time she will probably be just a fading memory, but a pleasant one.
Oh yeah, I paid her 2500 baht plus a small 200 baht tip. 1 shot. I don't have any idea how long she stayed, but she was in no rush to leave. THERE WERE NO NEGOTIATIONS! I trust my instincts and prefer not to negotiate as I feel it kills the vibe that I like to establish with my girls. Others like Mr Eih are free to employ a different approach. Whatever works for you. Like I said, this girl was a nice girl. She left happy. I was happy. The rains had stopped. I took a sleeping pill and the next thing I knew it was 7am. You ask a lot of questions. 555.
YetAnotherGuy
04-26-19, 09:26
No foto. I don't post fotos on the open forum and I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girlsI completely agree, I would never post a photo of a girl (or anyone for that matter) without her permission.
YetAnotherGuy
04-26-19, 09:33
Rumor has it the Geisha Bar owner has a problem paying his liquor bill on time. Or at all. But only a rumor I have heard and read.I hope it's a temporary closure!
CzarNicholas
04-26-19, 09:41
I hope it's a temporary closure!But bad hookers need to be exposed whenever possible!
If that isn't a feature of this site, there's something seriously wrong.
Good ones don't need unsolicited advertising.
I completely agree, I would never post a photo of a girl (or anyone for that matter) without her permission.
No foto. I don't post fotos on the open forum and I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girls plus I have been burned in the past by pencil dicks who actually showed a girl her photos I had posted on the ISG. The Ass Wipe! Totally agree with this. If a chic is cool enough to let you take a few snaps in a private moment then it should be kept private.
I also don't ever mention names or numbers in posts. Information here is shared so we can all learn to fish or get better at it- not to have a friggin fish put into our lap.
Houston Player
04-26-19, 11:10
. I spotted a cute spinner in front of a table along the right hand side. She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up! That is how easy Thermae is. Nice girl.This told me all I needed to know. I seldom have seen a girl on the right hand side of Thermae that I would take. I didn't say never just seldom. I have been attracted to girls in the front, on the left and in the back but seldom on the right. .
Franciscass
04-26-19, 11:56
No foto. I don't post fotos on the open forum and I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girls plus I have been burned in the past by pencil dicks who actually showed a girl her photos I had posted on the ISG. The Ass Wipe! .On the pics yes only a low life will take or post a pic of a girl without her permission. Also a freelancer part time or otherwise who may wish to keep what she does private should not be named without her permission. If you are limiting not sharing to these I get it.
That said I don't get why names of girls working at oilies, soapies, go go's or as escorts who's chosen profession is known to all who care to know cannot not be shared. In fact I believe most girls working these places would dearly love a favorable review which in turn gets them more business.
With respect Natty what's the point of posting if it's not to share the who, the what and the where. Otherwise the forum just becomes a talking about myself, here is what happened to me or here's how I do it navel gazing platform. OK sometimes a good read but not much help otherwise.
This told me all I needed to know. I seldom have seen a girl on the right hand side of Thermae that I would take. I didn't say never just seldom. I have been attracted to girls in the front, on the left and in the back but seldom on the right. .I thought the women on the right were older ladies who are desperate. I've never inquired, but I would hope those women would be a lot cheaper than the ones on the left.
Banana Boi
04-26-19, 14:03
In general I agree with you guys about the girls on the right not being as nice as the others but 2 of the top girls I ever picked up were on the right hand side of the bar, one tucked away in behind the back table on the right side and the other was the very first girl near the front of the bar on the right side. Both amazing sessions and the latter I still see to this day even though she hasn't worked at Thermae for over 2 years. Dinner and passionate sex for 2500 baht but she has to leave by 11 pm to get up for work the next morning. Great deal for a hot girl.
Blanquiceleste
04-26-19, 14:52
In general I agree with you guys about the girls on the right not being as nice as the others but 2 of the top girls I ever picked up were on the right hand side of the bar, one tucked away in behind the back table on the right side and the other was the very first girl near the front of the bar on the right side. Both amazing sessions and the latter I still see to this day even though she hasn't worked at Thermae for over 2 years. Dinner and passionate sex for 2500 baht but she has to leave by 11 pm to get up for work the next morning. Great deal for a hot girl.No pics? Then it did not happen! 5555.
BlueKangaroo
04-26-19, 16:37
1. I landed in BKK on Monday night. Showered and shaved, then headed out around 11;30 PM in the middle of a torrential downpour. Good thing Thermae was right around the corner. Ha Ha. But never saw Thermae so quiet with so few customers or girls. No matter, I spotted a cute spinner in front of a table along the right hand side. She smiled, I smiled, small pleasantries. I asked if she liked to kiss. She said yes. Gitty up! That is how easy Thermae is. Nice girl.Great report, and that is such a good line when asking about kissing! It feels so natural, I'm going to have to steal that and use it next time, heh.
PoohKeyLover
04-26-19, 17:02
BF at Geisha is 1000 to 1300 in comparison to Billboard and Butterflies which is 700.
At least at Nana, seems like Billboard and Butterflies have a better atmosphere and more people and girls. Doesn't seem like they have hotter girls just more of them to choose from which adds a bit to the experience while management at both places encourage the girls to be active. Twister on the ground floor was mostly dead and girls just standing around on stage which kills the vibe; Twister on the 2nd floor was fun.Based on my experience, Crazy House have hotter girls but shitty atmosphere with super pushy mamasans.
No pics? Then it did not happen! 5555.I couldn't agree more.
Without a pic, it's possible she looked like this...
CzarNicholas
04-26-19, 17:43
Can I ask what all this means?
I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girls.
ThailandBound
04-26-19, 18:30
Just thought I'd share an experience from around 2014.
Walking down soi cowboy towards T21 I stop for a beer in the last bar on the right, possibly western themed.
Girl named Rutta starts to chat to me and after a few tequilas she's practically swallowing my face.
She's cute, a little chubby but with massive firm knockers.
We leave and have 1 final drink at a cart-bar on the corner, traffic whizzing past, tourists all around and this girl is all over me in front of everything and everyone.
Motorbike taxi to my hotel and I disembark but the cuff of my jeans was tangled up on the exhaust pipe so naturally I stuttered and fell arse over tit into the path of another motorbike.
He didn't stop in time but did only minimal damage to my chest as he rode his bike halfway up my torso just catching my cheek and ear with his tire.
Back to the hotel she was very worried and we decided to go to sleep.
The next 2 days started with her checking my wounds (a nice big bruise mainly), bringing me breakfast and then performing perfect oral on me the likes of which I am now accustomed to but had never experienced before.
By the evening I knew every single millimeter of her body and she knew mine almost as well.
She only wanted to make me happy and kept asking what I want to do so when I ran out of ideas I asked her if she watched porn. She had but just a few clips so we would watch a scene or a movie on my phone and act out the scenes between us.
When we got hungry we went down to the little restaurant by the lobby, eat and return to the room to continue.
As I'm about to head to the airport I asked how much she wanted and she very sheepishly, reluctantly asked for 2000 but I gave her 5000.
Thailand.
CzarNicholas
04-26-19, 18:54
Great report, and that is such a good line when asking about kissing! It feels so natural, I'm going to have to steal that and use it next time, heh.Can you deepthroat me? After I show her a photo of my boner on my phone.
Or can me and my room mate do anal DP on you?
Banana Boi
04-26-19, 20:01
No pics? Then it did not happen! 5555.Will send some to you on Line but I think I have sent you some of her long ago already.
Imo pics should be exchanged only to guys you know after meeting with them. Even then precautions should be taken.
I couldn't agree more.
Without a pic, it's possible she looked like this...Yes Smoothy that's what my girls look like in Jakarta because let's be honest that's what they all look like there.
Can I ask what all this means?
I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girls.Ever hear of Bro's before hoes?
Yes Smoothy that's what my girls look like in Jakarta because let's be honest that's what they all look like there.Wow, thanks for the info. Looks like Jakarta is a place to avoid.
Re Thermae, - I had never thought about it, but yes, upon reflection it seems that the right side of the place tends to be occupied by older, less attractive women (but I had a great experience from the right side, she was all the way up against the wall, but snuck out to sidle up to me.).
The left side, especially the standers. They're dolled up for Asian tastes. And I have rarely felt attracted to any of them.
Re Geisha. My last time in town I went in there several times but never felt a good "vibe" about the place. (for whatever reason);. I also distinctly remember that I was very underwhelmed by the looks of the ladies in there. I always had the best luck at Mandarin but when in there over Christmastime, the quality of the bargirls on tap was underwhelming to say the least.
John Clayton
04-26-19, 20:31
Ever hear of Bro's before hoes?A point of male etiquette to be avoided.
A point of male etiquette to be avoided.Unfortunately, all too often, the "bros" are less trustworthy and of lesser standing moral character than the hos.
Member #4698
04-27-19, 00:47
With respect Natty what's the point of posting if it's not to share the who, the what and the where. Otherwise the forum just becomes a talking about myself, here is what happened to me or here's how I do it navel gazing platform. OK sometimes a good read but not much help otherwise.The what, both good and bad, and the where is what I consider valuable and useful. I have no interest in the names of other punter's girls unless they are talking about psycho cases or thieves. I prefer to conduct my own hunt, make my own magic happen based on what I find and see when I am on the ground in the hunt zone. Of course, I share pictures and names with my friends, guys I know, and in whom I think we share a common ethic towards the girls. Ha Ha. But I am pretty sure my fellow punters like to chart their own course too and don't need my personal girly info other than to compare notes and see what each of us has been up to lately in the spirit of camaraderie.
I also don't ever mention names or numbers in posts. Information here is shared so we can all learn to fish or get better at it - not to have a friggin fish put into our lap.I think this states the case fairly well. What I want to know when I am not in country is news about some new bar opening or closing, weather the girls there are sexy or not or weather a bar getting is better or going downhill. Things like that that I can use. Thus I am very likely to go check any new bar or brothel if and when reliable BM's post about such an event. I really can't see how the name of someone's barfine helps me in any way and in fact it might hinder me.
But case in point, recently IMembr posted some news about Geisha Go Go. I found his post interesting and informative. I had never been to Geisha so last night I checked out the bar before meeting up with Syzygies in Billboard for a mini barhop. It was very early in the evening around 8:15. I saw a few thin girls on stage, but none that I had to have and I certainly didn't say to Syzygies, "hey man, you got to check this place out. It's amazing. " The mamasan was friendly and welcoming, however, and I stayed long enough to see a little of both sets of girls. My preliminary opinion was that the bar was not at the top end and not at the bottom end in terms of Nana quality. But I think I will hold off final judgement until I stop by again around 9 to 10 pm to give the bar a fair shot.
I will post a longer, more informative review of last night's action a bit later. I had a real good time last night and found another real nice, real sexy little girl who sported large, firm, soft, natural Thai tities on a very thin frame with particularly thin thighs and a flat little tummy. Me Likey! Yum! NO NAME / NO PIC FOR THE INTERNET! ha ha. Maybe last night never happened, but you can use what I give and find your own little cupcake or not. It makes little difference to me. It's always up to the individual.
The headline from last night reads: Rainbow 2 is the surprise big winner, Billboard receives honorable mention, and Angel Witch is the big loser of the night.
Member #4698
04-27-19, 00:51
Unfortunately, all too often, the "bros" are less trustworthy and of lesser standing moral character than the hos.Sad but true.
Banana Boi
04-27-19, 02:15
You can never take anything you read on any board to be the truth. As an example the other day a guy on another Pattaya board told me that Lady Love gogo in LK Metro in Pattaya had the most girls in LK Metro. Having been to Lady Love in the past I knew this to be complete BS but to give the experienced poster the benefit of the doubt I visited Lady Love gogo the following evening. 6 girls on stage and 3 sitting around. 3 customers. Champagne gogo earlier in the night at 7:30 pm had 29 girls. What motivated him to post Lady Love gogo is the busiest gogo bar in LK Metro is beyond me. He had to know I was going to check and call him out on it.
The other night, I met a girl at Thermae to pretty much changed my perception about some of these Thai freelancers. I was first turned down by a hottie who was standing in the smoking area next to the wash sink in the back. She has been reviewed on here before and told me "no" that I was not her type. I went back inside and sat in the center island space so I could watch the bars. Plenty of Asian customers walking around. It seems that the cuter and prettier girls preferred the younger Asian males as my Westerner comrades were having not much luck. The very few Indians and Arab customers were worse off. I saw many Westerners having to settle for 3 and 4th tier girls after repeated "no's. " I saw one hottie, a 10 in my book, actually reject a lot of Asians, so I thought maybe she preferred Westerners. I approach her and asked if that is the case. She told me that she was not cheap and won't go for anything less than 5,000 but only 2 hours. I took her up on her offer because I thought she was sexy. Back in the room, her service was rushed and non GFE. No kissing and covered everything. When we were done, she gave me her LINE in case I wanted to meet the next day. She said it would only be 4,000 during day time. Looking through her LINE photos, I think those poor uneducated Isaan girls know what they are doing.Many of the girls at Thermae aren't Isaan girls. The Asian customers don't go for that look. It's much more of a farang thing.
And your pricey girl doesn't look like an Isaan girl either.
Re Geisha. My last time in town I went in there several times but never felt a good "vibe" about the place. (for whatever reason);. I also distinctly remember that I was very underwhelmed by the looks of the ladies in there. I always had the best luck at Mandarin but when in there over Christmastime, the quality of the bargirls on tap was underwhelming to say the least.Interesting. Often a new bar will start out weak in terms of line up and vibe and then improve over time. I think I posted the first report on Geisha Bar here a few months back and your more recent impressions seem to be the same as mine then. Same with Kazy Kozy on Soi Cowboy. I posted the first report on that bar when it opened, too, and thought it was just "meh". I don't believe I have seen a subsequent report on the place that expressed a dramatic improvement over that. Maybe I missed it.
Could be we are tapping out on the number of better than average girls that can play musical chairs from one go-go bar to another to improve upon their line ups. But I suspect that is again something that moves in cycles and will turn around.
Many of the girls at Thermae aren't Isaan girls. The Asian customers don't go for that look. It's much more of a farang thing.
And your pricey girl doesn't look like an Isaan girl either.Well, most are Isaan girls that have had a lot of surgeries. Don't kid yourself.
A point of male etiquette to be avoided.I disagree. It's always bros before hos.
Franciscass
04-27-19, 07:16
But I am pretty sure my fellow punters like to chart their own course too and don't need my personal girly infoI would wager a steak and a 2009 Bordeaux that a majority of members would appreciate the who. Doesn't mean they don't or won't enjoy the search and you will find part of the exercise, that's how I operate myself. That said I still don't understand the reasoning behind keeping it to one's self but if this is how it works for you then that's how it is. Incidentally omissions not withstanding I enjoy your posts.
Was in Rainbow 2. There a lot of highly modified girls with silly hair style, not my thing. Few girls without nose jobs, but some nose jobs looked okay, some not. So we have "dolls", "aliens", No. 46 looked like a LB even if wasn't, one or two old, fat and ugly girls (how did they get to work there? Maybe good Japanese skills LOL) however there were also at least 2 or 3 quite nice looking girls for my taste. Natty got the best looker very quickly. I would describe her as like an Asian version of Danerys Targaryan with really magnificent natural looking tits and face vaguely reminiscent too. A nose job yes but a quite good one (not detracting). I eventually spotted an all natural Issan girl with good body, age 22 probably inexperienced (not good idea), not so white skin and cute small nose. Two schoolgirl like ponytails (one on each side). Obviously a girl more to Farang Spec. Her name was Phorn, don't know the number (I was thinking 22 but that was her age so that must be wrong). By far majority of customers are Asian so this makes it a very risky hunting ground for me.
Bought the girl some drinks maybe one too many, the vibe was reasonably good although not to lovey dovey standard. She was very chatty. A little bit Ding Dong kooky. Mamasan asked me to pay up front for Short Time. I said no, that would be the deal breaker.
She claimed to very hungry. Perhaps this should be a warning sign, so grabbed some food (I paid), even including expensive Durian. Back at my room was having a hard time to get her to get her shorts off, she wanted to see my big hard on. Crazy! There was no hard on as she was playing more like a monkey than sexy style. Finally she tells me she has a period and I even got to see the dark brown blood on the pad. As this indicates very late in the period, no red, I said fine, just go rinse up and we can do it anyway. I will ignore any colour remnants and I have very good gel to prevent chaffing. However she was totally unwilling, so had to kick her out with no money paid. She did not suggest BJ, but I doubt she would be good at it, and had braces. I already wasted enough on BF etc. She lived close by so as short motorcycle ride to get home.
Nice body but useless. Maybe I was lucky to save the additional payment. Will never known if she could have been good on the bed. Possibly has only ever fucked one or two Farangs. Never I good idea to take that type. Seems unlikely that RB2 would be a good hunting ground for me. Likely to be a lot more misses than hits. Went straight back to Nana to get an experienced girl, which turned out fantastic. So one miss and one big hit.
I did a walk along Soi Nana to see if there were any lookers. The stunning deaf girl I once saw was not there. None of the other girls on the SOI was pretty enough, bar the odd LB, and one tall girl Naam. Naam was still there on the return walk back, standing next to pharmacy stall in front of the Burrito stand. At least 5 ft 6 inches maybe more, and slim and good face for a 29 year old, almost no tits, but not an issue for me.
She was easily the stand out girl and several guys had approached her. I overheard a little when talking to one guy, middle eastern maybe with slightly dark skin, that she wanted 1300 Baht. No deal. Seems he wanted to pay less, yet she was clearly a cut above most on there. Was evident she knew she could get 1300 no problem. After a brief chat we agreed. I said I would a tip bonus on top of the 1300 if we had a really good time. Apparently I gave the right vibe of being a good guy, and she greatly prefers Farangs. She later said black guys scare her, East Asians never choose her, and Indians sometimes are not clean enough and are bad character mostly, particularly trying to negotiate for 500 baht sex or less. She is not interested in such negotiations and did not go fully into her objections.
In the room showered together. Her tits were tiny as expected and slightly saggy indicating having a child but fortunately no belly damage was evident. Very avid tongue kisser so that was a good start. Not shy in the slightest and admitted she likes Farang cock. No problem getting her to pop in the prelim DATY. BBBJ was a little average, not bad, but not exceptionally soft and slurpy and only moderate depth. A pass. However BJ is not my main thing. Excellent extended fuck in many positions, seemed happy to do extended cowgirl with her legs doing the work too.
I was very happy and she got her bonus. Immediately added to my repeat list. Naam turned out to be a Bangkok girl, not Isaan. Never seen her on Soi 4 before, but says she might be regular for the near coming period. Obviously needs the money right now.
Well, most are Isaan girls that have had a lot of surgeries. Don't kid yourself.Exactly, and that's why they all love these TV reality shows from Korea where we see a very ugly girl becoming kind of "good looking" after having done a lot of surgeries.
By the way all the Essaan girls don't have the same rough look (dark skin with a Essaan recognizable face), I've met plenty that cultivated their skin to become white with and had a cute Chinese or Japanese style.
What amazes me is the number of guys saying that their girls are coming from Chiang Mai. Every time I read this I doubt that more than 10 percent of them are actually coming from Chiang Mai. They say that because they don't want to be categorized as Essaan girls, and because in the Thai culture they often say that their most beautiful girls are coming from Chiang Mai.
And there is a high probability that the girl on that pic might very well be from Essaan also.
Steve 9696
04-27-19, 14:07
In the room showered together. Her tits were tiny as expected and slightly saggy indicating having a child but fortunately no belly damage was evident. Very avid tongue kisser so that was a good start. Not shy in the slightest and admitted she likes Farang cock. No problem getting her to pop in the prelim DATY. BBBJ was a little average, not bad, but not exceptionally soft and slurpy and only moderate depth. A pass. However BJ is not my main thing. Excellent extended fuck in many positions, seemed happy to do extended cowgirl with her legs doing the work too.
I was very happy and she got her bonus. Immediately added to my repeat list. Naam turned out to be a Bangkok girl, not Isaan. Never seen her on Soi 4 before, but says she might be regular for the near coming period. Obviously needs the money right now.She wants your cock and she DFKs passionately. Yep. I can overlook a lot of other minor flaws for that passionate connection.
She wants your cock and she DFKs passionately. Yep. I can overlook a lot of other minor flaws for that passionate connection.I can overlook some flaws, but not too many and not too serious. Passionate ugly girls don't interest me. Fortunately I have some girls with bigger tits, so small tits is okay. I once used to do a Japanese girl all fairly good except for rather poor shaped ass. Surprised me I could overlook that. Can overlook Caesarean scars too if subtle. Train tracks hard to overlook. Deflated sag bag tits are hard to accept for me even I know is natural. Better if the tits are very flat and only slight sag, so not bags.
I listed all Naam's flaws that I noticed to make sure my review is fair and not exaggerated, however she is pretty enough not to struggle to get customers. Many guys were knocked back simply because they could not go to 1300 Baht. Ha ha. Easily worth it for me. Plus 300 Baht for short time Hotel and a tip for great performance. I forgot to mention her pussy was well trimmed very short but not completely clean shaven. Maybe a shave is due.
Pretty girls with bad attitude probably never get repeated, however some girls with lacklustre performance, were so pretty and such a great body, I gave them a 2nd chance, and in some of those cases the girls performed way better the 2nd time, just needing maybe the drinks to be leg openers.
So strange as it may seen, a girl can be non passionate first, but passionate second time. Always a surprise. May-lee at Crazy House was like that. Extremely pretty girl with great body. 2nd time with me was real good, after tequilas, enough to make her a regular, first time lacklustre. Unfortunately she soon left to have a baby, probably wreck her body, and never returned. Too young to be having a baby at 20 YO in my view.
Re Thermae, - I had never thought about it, but yes, upon reflection it seems that the right side of the place tends to be occupied by older, less attractive women (but I had a great experience from the right side, she was all the way up against the wall, but snuck out to sidle up to me.).
The left side, especially the standers. They're dolled up for Asian tastes. And I have rarely felt attracted to any of them.
Re Geisha. My last time in town I went in there several times but never felt a good "vibe" about the place. (for whatever reason);. I also distinctly remember that I was very underwhelmed by the looks of the ladies in there. I always had the best luck at Mandarin but when in there over Christmastime, the quality of the bargirls on tap was underwhelming to say the least.The right side as you enter?
Come on dude, other than the first few oldies that like the first few seats at the corner near the TV on the right in the back as you are facing upon entry, the hotties are evenly dispersed throughout. But hey guys, what do I know, I'm only there 3-4 x a week between September and April.
So tourists and beginning kongers, here is your Thermae advice.
1. The chicks are scattered everywhere.
2. don't bother with any who wear anime makeup.
3. Believe it or not, the less flashy the dress, the more amenable to farang. Seems that the hardcore girls are the ones who prefer Asians.
And in regard to the last point, about 60% of the Thermae girls I did over the past 7 months I never saw there again.
As Kumbu already explained or rather gave a walk through in earlier reports about the scene in Tharmae, I won't go into deep of whole process. Once again thank you Kumbu for your detailed reviews.
Just a heads up for some misconceptions about this place:
1. Myth: only Japanese or Korean people are entertained. Certainly not I have seen other people from different continents.
2. Myth: Expensive Girls / girls have attitude: outgoing rates 2500-3000 max for ST. Which is reasonable. & of course you should negotiate from 3 K to 2.5 K, if the lady is not ready to negotiate then move ahead in the line there are many other options to choose from.
So coming back for my FR:
I visited this place twice, on the first day I just wanted to check on with this place. On the second day I picked up a girl name Li (something like that) we crossed our path near the toilet upstairs where you go for a smoke (the upper parking area).
{Fact: Just before I move ahead I would like to inform you that the lady charges for using the wash room!
So coming back from a smoke break again I started going round clock wise while completing the 2nd round I saw Li, went close to her & ask for the charges for ST & LT 3 k for ST 6.5 k for LT I gave her the my prices 2. 5 k for ST. 5 k for LT she was ready for the ST for 2.5 k picked her up & took a taxi from there to hotel.
It was easy walk to the room no question asked. (I was staying in Holiday Inn Express sukhmivit 11).
Once we entered the room we hugged each other along with some DFK, we then got ourselves into shower got cleaned up & jumped on the bed. I asked to give a BBJ but she denied & I was little disappointed. Then she puts the Condom & came in WOT position, giving me full access to the upper assets. After some time we changed the position to Miss. Here on she started to rush the action, came in doggy after 30 minutes of banging time. She went for the shower & got dressed up. Paid the amount & she gave a goodbye kiss before leaving.
Overall:
Girl: 8/10.
Pussy:8/10 (clean shave non smelly).
GFE: 5/10 (Little rushy).
Boobs:8/10 (little more then handful all natural).
Body: 8/10 (5.5 ft. , typical Thailand figure).
Damages: 2500 for 45 odd minutes.
One thing to be remembered: Make sure you make your requirement about the overall action very clear while picking up the lady from Tharmae.
The what, both good and bad, and the where is what I consider valuable and useful. I have no interest in the names of other punter's girls unless they are talking about psycho cases or thieves. I prefer to conduct my own hunt, make my own magic happen based on what I find and see when I am on the ground in the hunt zone. Of course, I share pictures and names with my friends, guys I know, and in whom I think we share a common ethic towards the girls. Ha Ha. But I am pretty sure my fellow punters like to chart their own course too and don't need my personal girly info other than to compare notes and see what each of us has been up to lately in the spirit of camaraderie.
I think this states the case fairly well. What I want to know when I am not in country is news about some new bar opening or closing, weather the girls there are sexy or not or weather a bar getting is better or going downhill. Things like that that I can use. Thus I am very likely to go check any new bar or brothel if and when reliable BM's post about such an event. I really can't see how the name of someone's barfine helps me in any way and in fact it might hinder me.
But case in point, recently IMembr posted some news about Geisha Go Go. I found his post interesting and informative. I had never been to Geisha so last night I checked out the bar before meeting up with Syzygies in Billboard for a mini barhop. It was very early in the evening around 8:15. I saw a few thin girls on stage, but none that I had to have and I certainly didn't say to Syzygies, "hey man, you got to check this place out. It's amazing. " The mamasan was friendly and welcoming, however, and I stayed long enough to see a little of both sets of girls. My preliminary opinion was that the bar was not at the top end and not at the bottom end in terms of Nana quality. But I think I will hold off final judgement until I stop by again around 9 to 10 pm to give the bar a fair shot..That's me. I religiously look for good solid non fantasy reports. I'd post more myself if there wasn't the lag time.
Interesting. Often a new bar will start out weak in terms of line up and vibe and then improve over time. I think I posted the first report on Geisha Bar here a few months back and your more recent impressions seem to be the same as mine then. Those were my impressions of Geisha 2 months ago.
I may get a chance to be back in town in a month, shall report back.
regarding Nyezhov's Thermae observations - completely agree with 2 and 3.
and I had never considered that girls would take the risk of fucking up their faces to make themselves more attractive to prospective East Asian clients. (but I suppose it makes sense)
anything "anime", girlie girlie related and anything that looks remotely plastic surgery is an immediate (AVOID) for me.. I don't even stop to for a closer look, much less a chat up.
Not even remotely interested.
CzarNicholas
04-28-19, 00:53
The right side as you enter?
Come on dude, other than the first few oldies that like the first few seats at the corner near the TV on the right in the back as you are facing upon entry, the hotties are evenly dispersed throughout. But hey guys, what do I know, I'm only there 3-4 x a week between September and April.
So tourists and beginning kongers, here is your Thermae advice.
1. The chicks are scattered everywhere.
2. don't bother with any who wear anime makeup.
3. Believe it or not, the less flashy the dress, the more amenable to farang. Seems that the hardcore girls are the ones who prefer Asians.
And in regard to the last point, about 60% of the Thermae girls I did over the past 7 months I never saw there again.That back wall is a tuff crowd.
To me asian style= mercenary.
They have created monsters, in ac is see it.
In fkkland I see it, in tijuana.
They call them asian hunters in sharks, why? Because they are so mercilessly predatory.
The asian monger has created conditions to render himself the prey and not the hunter.
This is not a desirable designation.
I can walk down walking street and see one coming 100 meters away in ac.
Nice purse, as you say "flashy dress" not cheap.
Fresh haircut, usually high heels (***** face almost 100% of the time) never smiling.
They remind me of arnold schwarzeneggar in predator!
Somebody referred to them as demure a few posts back.
I see them as deadly serious.
They have a single minded purposefulness.
"They are on a mission" Must find a compliant victim (s)!
Like bboi said recently.
I will paraphrase him, in many bars in pattaya the hookers pick the men.
My point well illustrated.
Quintessential social inversion.
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. " "If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't.
White rabbit.
"How did things ever get so far? I don't know. It was so unfortunate, so unnecessary. ".
—Don Corleone, "The Godfather".
As Kumbu already explained or rather gave a walk through in earlier reports about the scene in Tharmae, I won't go into deep of whole process. Once again thank you Kumbu for your detailed reviews.
Just a heads up for some misconceptions about this place:
1. Myth: only Japanese or Korean people are entertained. Certainly not I have seen other people from different continents.
2. Myth: Expensive Girls / girls have attitude: outgoing rates 2500-3000 max for ST. Which is reasonable. & of course you should negotiate from 3 K to 2.5 K, if the lady is not ready to negotiate then move ahead in the line there are many other options to choose from.
So coming back for my FR:
I visited this place twice, on the first day I just wanted to check on with this place. On the second day I picked up a girl name Li (something like that) we crossed our path near the toilet upstairs where you go for a smoke (the upper parking area)..2.5 k and no BBBJ? When she refused I'd have booted her with a couple hundred Baht. C'Mon. Guys, service will continue to decline as long as you accept this.
Exactly, and that's why they all love these TV reality shows from Korea where we see a very ugly girl becoming kind of "good looking" after having done a lot of surgeries.
By the way all the Essaan girls don't have the same rough look (dark skin with a Essaan recognizable face), I've met plenty that cultivated their skin to become white with and had a cute Chinese or Japanese style.
What amazes me is the number of guys saying that their girls are coming from Chiang Mai. Every time I read this I doubt that more than 10 percent of them are actually coming from Chiang Mai. They say that because they don't want to be categorized as Essaan girls, and because in the Thai culture they often say that their most beautiful girls are coming from Chiang Mai.
And there is a high probability that the girl on that pic might very well be from Essaan also.Exactly. It's hilarious that so many gals claim to be from Bkk or the north, but are really Isaan gals with nose and chin implants and jawline shaved. Thermae has some real plastic surgery nightmares.
You have to hand it to those Korean surgeons though. They can take some real tree climbers and make some beauties.
I would wager a steak and a 2009 Bordeaux that a majority of members would appreciate the who. Doesn't mean they don't or won't enjoy the search and you will find part of the exercise, that's how I operate myself. That said I still don't understand the reasoning behind keeping it to one's self but if this is how it works for you then that's how it is. Incidentally omissions not withstanding I enjoy your posts.Agree with you. I don't want to waste my time looking. When I have a good or bad experience with a new MP gal, I share it. That's one of the main reasons to be on the board. I don't enjoy reading tales when there is no name and place. It's not Penthouse Forum.
Can I ask what all this means?
I don't post the names of my girls either. You don't need to have this info. I am very protective of my girls.They're not "your girls. " They are sex workers. You're one of many. This board is to share info on them. [Deleted by Admin]
CzarNicholas
04-28-19, 02:54
They're not "your girls. " They are sex workers. You're one of many. This board is to share info on them. Why post then?Touche Mr Scrot!
I thought he was implying he was their "protector"? LOL.
This post belongs in the ISG hall of fame!
YetAnotherGuy
04-28-19, 03:16
By the way all the Essaan girls don't have the same rough look (dark skin with a Essaan recognizable face)Very true, I've known a number of very beautiful girls from Isan / Isaan who had had no plastic surgeries of any kind. Human variety is really enormous. I'm not at all skin-colorist (if that's a word), though, I really enjoy the whole package and how it fits together, though some beautiful girls have made me feel pasty in comparison.
They're not "your girls. " They are sex workers. You're one of many. This board is to share info on them. Why post then?Well, some of us are delusional.
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3. Believe it or not, the less flashy the dress, the more amenable to farang. Seems that the hardcore girls are the ones who prefer Asians.
Unfortunately, the girls that are giving me the come on in Thermae, are not the ones I wanted. Often not slim and often very average faces. Often inexperienced with Farangs as well, even though they want to try. Dick scared types common. I have a lot of problem picking over dressed girls hiding their figure too. These are the problems of being too picky. For sure I would not be going for girls with very unnatural looks, however the very "best" girls there to my taste for looks, usually aren't interested or are restrictive and not fun.
So I can easily see the Thermae suits some Farangs, but not me these days. Just a very poor success rate. My recent Soi 4 on the street girl, who very definitely is into Farangs, was way better than anything I got from Thermae in recent years. I don't know if I was unlucky as well as wrong choices. Trying for the prettiest / hottest girl in Thermae is not a great strategy for me. Better to find a lovey / dovey attitude girl with plenty of Farang experience.
Very true, I've known a number of very beautiful girls from Isan / Isaan who had had no plastic surgeries of any kind. Human variety is really enormous. I'm not at all skin-colorist (if that's a word), though, I really enjoy the whole package and how it fits together, though some beautiful girls have made me feel pasty in comparison.Agree with both of you. Isaan girls can be very pretty. I don't care where they come from, nor if skin is white or tanned. My Mrs is darker now than when I first met her due to country life gets sun these days, where used to live in Bangkok and stay out of the sun (quite light colour originally). No big deal for me.
I don't go for broad faced Isaan girls (mostly) with broad noses or raised nose jobs, and sillies in the Oily MPs. Very few pretty girls found there. However Isaan girls can have smaller narrow faces with cute small upturned noses (not at all broad) by nature. My mother was stunned at how pretty my GF is. She never expected that.
Fortunately there is a big variety of looks. Isaan does have some hot girls. Chiang Mai actually has a lot of quite broad faced girls with square faces. I don't go for that look at all, the North does have some narrow faced girls as well.
I just don't care where a girl comes from, nor her age, if look good, etc. Evaluate the individual girl.
What amazes me is the number of guys saying that their girls are coming from Chiang Mai. Every time I read this I doubt that more than 10 percent of them are actually coming from Chiang Mai. They say that because they don't want to be categorized as Essaan girls, and because in the Thai culture they often say that their most beautiful girls are coming from Chiang Mai.More likely these Northern delights are from the Mae Hong Son region not Chiang Mai and have easily crossed the border.
If you have been there you will know what I mean by easily.
Many of these providers are Burmese. In my experience they say they are from Chiang Mai but further interviews reveal they are from "Mae Hong Son" which basically equates to their way of saying they are originally from Myanmar. Make no mistake they are very beautiful. I have noticed they are becoming more Chinese looking since my first encounters with ladies from this region, which is to expected I guess considering the amount of Chinese that now populate the area. Twenty odd years ago they had more Hmong features and were easily identified and were rarely seen in this caper. With the extra Chinese blood they easily pass as "a beautiful Thai maiden". IMO they are some of the most naturally beautiful looking women on the planet and tend to keep a slender physique well into their 40's as apposed to most Isan women who these days appear to get wider and dare I say it start to resemble the body shapes of the great white hippos in the west.
After coming to Bangkok & you didn't go clubbing, I would say that the trip is not that worth. Bangkok has one of the best clubbing scene & Insanity at Sukhumvit 11 is one of the crazy party people. Some fantastic music & awesome crowds, which starts pouring in after 11:30 pm & the party goes on till 3 am.
So it was just a 100 mtrs away from the my Hotel for me it was just hopping distance. First night I went I bit early like 10 pm & I was surprised to see only handful of people enjoying their beers. By the way the entry was 300 Bath which covers one beer. You can claim it by showing the receipt at the bar counter. Take you beer and choose a table to stand the enjoy the music. I preferred the last row or rear tables where in you can just move around & this gives you nice glance of the club as well.
As crowd started to pour in & it was full with regulars & newbie like me. I took my time to adjust a little bit & for to get the hang of it, as there were Ladies waiting for you to approach them & take back to the hotel. So the crowd was totally a mixed crowd right from US, China, Korea, Some Indians, beautiful ladies from the Uzbekistan, some European as well & of course local people as well.
The table ahead in my row was full of Uzbekistan ladies, smiling at me, giving all the typical looks as a pick up girl would do. One lady from them approached me in pertaining to light her cigarette, just before going back to her table we had little chat & she told her price for ST is 3500 bath. My counter offered was 2500 b to which she said 3000 be is final go price.
I hanged in there for a while just to check on little more music & my drink to get over. I finished my drink & asked her to come along with me. We went back to hotel & I had some amazing time for that night.
It was almost 12:30 am when hit the bed. She started giving me BBJ, oh man she had some amazing skills for BBJ. She was almost spotless with all natural boobs. She just had a little scar on her left thigh. But she was a wild tigress in the bed. Then I wanted to try out some Uzbek pussy so asked her come in 69 position. Oh man it was nice and pink & juicy. My fingers also had an opportunity to play with her holes & check the tightness of it. So once we were both were aroused enough! My Johnny was covered & she asked me to bang her in Miss position. I could see her all natural boobs shaking & bouncing to & fro. Then I asked let's try for some doggy style, this gave me nice rear view of the assets, spanked hard till it became red and my finger prints were all over it. To all this she responded very nicely, no attitude, no denial absolutely.
Last position was WOT where in I also asked to play with her pussy in between the action. Even she liked it. Finally after nice 25-30 minutes I was relieved of all the excitement in her warm & juicy pussy. We went in for shower together, nice DFK all the way in & out.
I was dead tired, she latter changed & went back to the club.
Overall:
Girl: 9/10.
GFE:9/10.
Pussy: 9/10.
Boobs: 8/10 All natural slight saggy.
Damages: 3000 Bath 1:30 minutes.
They're not "your girls. " They are sex workers. You're one of many. This board is to share info on them. Why post then?Wrongo.
For e. G. Escorts are not freelancers, despite the fact they can both be categorized as sex workers.
Even with escort type complete pros (with which I almost never partake with) I will only share info that the girl is comfortable sharing, because ultimately, all "reviews" aside. It all comes down to YMMV.
I might make an exception for a scam, rip off artist, and burglar. That kind of girl I am glad to expose. Good thing I've been quite fortunate on that front though.
What amazes me is the number of guys saying that their girls are coming from Chiang Mai. Every time I read this I doubt that more than 10 percent of them are actually coming from Chiang Mai. They say that because they don't want to be categorized as Essaan girls, and because in the Thai culture they often say that their most beautiful girls are coming from Chiang Mai.
Yep. How many Nataree girls were supposedly from Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai? LOL Many did not speak normal Thai well enough, likely from Laos or Myanmar or even Karen mountain girls. Yes it possible from Chiang Rai, but Mae Hong Son and Uthai Thani etc. Are more likely. Some possibly from Isaan too. I never cared where they said they came from unless they happened to admit they were from Myanmar in some cases, which was more interesting. Still have contact with a Thai-Yai from northern mountains of Myanmar close to China more than 15 years after met her in a Soapy. She had zero English and funny Thai (somewhat northern style). She could not read or write Thai originally but can now (with spelling as bad as mine). She lives in Chiang Mai but that indicates nothing much. Very sweet girl but very immature when I met her.
A lot of Nataree girls were basically "trafficked" on contract with pimp managers. Hence they were generally not the happiest girls, not doing just as they pleased, and turning up to work only when they felt like it.
I had an ex GF from Uttharadit (close to Chiang Mai), but her looks were not that very different to some Isaan girls. Had a bad temper and extremely jealous, so we did not last more than about 4 years.
I have a lot of problem picking over dressed girls hiding their figure too. .Its a game for me, how hot are they under those clothes? Its like unwrapping Christmas presents, like expecting a Hwaweii and Getting a Samsung and I had some great presents in the 2018-2019 season.
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Goatscrot,
You will notice I rarely go into any details about my "experiences". Certainly never any "blow by blow" descriptions.
As far as I'm concerned I try to ascertain at least the "general parameters" of a potential situation / event and then calculate my potential odds from there, always knowing that my mileage may vary nonetheless.
And I try to provide at least general back ground and parameters in return. (for E. G. If I tell you I like the ambiance of a specific place and have had good luck with the ladies there, etc or even a higher than average batting average in receiving / satiating a specific desire, I am providing a service to the readers without breaking my individual confidentiality rules about most individual ladies.
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Franciscass
04-29-19, 04:40
You will notice I rarely go into any details about my "experiences". Certainly never any "blow by blow" descriptions.
As far as I'm concerned I try to ascertain at least the "general parameters" of a potential situation / event and then calculate my potential odds from there, always knowing that my mileage may vary nonetheless.
And I try to provide at least general back ground and parameters in return. (for e. G. If I tell you I like the ambiance of a specific place and have had good luck with the ladies there, etc or even a higher than average batting average in receiving / satiating a specific desire, I am providing a service to the readers without breaking my individual confidentiality rules about most individual ladies.There are many different ways you can divide working girls but the one in play here is those who want publicity and those that don't.
Those that don't should absolutely have their privacy respected but ask any girl at an oliie or an escort whose pic and details are already available on line and almost universally they will jump at any opportunity to have favorable reviews posted on any available forum. Just to be sure it should be mentioned to them beforehand.
Pics are a different story and most girls wherever they work will not agree to having compromising pics of themselves out there thus making anybody who engages in this behavior a low life in my books.
Banana Boi
04-29-19, 06:35
Its a game for me, how hot are they under those clothes? Its like unwrapping Christmas presents, like expecting a Hwaweii and Getting a Samsung and I had some great presents in the 2018-2019 season.I never really thought of it this way but I think that's part of the fun for myself as well. Sure sometimes I make the wrong call but most times it's the right choice. If I'm wrong it's no big deal. All I've lost is an couple of hours of my day and I can go out and select the next one.
EihTooms,
Yes even I will name girls to give them publicity (its only a common nickname), I will not quote any special services too far out of the very ordinary. My reports usually only show that a particular girl can do GFE (my type of GFE) and be fun for me, but not necessarily for the more demanding types of guy.
Girls that allow BBFS usually request no CIP, in my experience. This is more convenient to them in not having to clean up, and reduces risk of unwanted pregnancy a little, and maybe reduces some other risks slightly, I don't know. I particularly find that girls with teeth braces don't really want to do CIM either. Goop in the braces harder to clean out. I am not requiring CIP nor CIM, so no big deal for me. So realistically, for most of my reports, I would not even know if the girl is willing to do those things and if they would charge more for them, and I usually do not ask if the girl can do anal or two shots etc. As not that relevant to me.
I gave Naam publicity on Soi 4. However, honestly, she does not need it. Even with zero tits, she is pretty enough, and she admitted she has no trouble to get customers. So that is more one for the Bros, I guess. I know it is hard to find good fun cooperative girls on Soi 4, that do not want to rush the session sometimes. The rat bag guys probably won't take her because they want to pay 1 K. No clues if she does anal, nor whether she would do CIP for the right price. CIM seems likely possible but I did not take it or ask.
My specific reports are not frequent anymore simply because, I rely mostly on regulars, so I am not going to keep reviewing them repeatedly. Also some are not even generally available any more. My Lao girl does not work anywhere at present in a Mongering sense, and absent from Thailand as well. A review would be pointless. When was at Orient long ago, was better not to mention her specifically, as she was not a Thai citizen. Yeh, we don't know who reads here.
I do believe in YMMV a lot. Some girls either very poor for me or very non memorable were supposedly really good for others, and visa versa. I always found it very hard to benefit from recommendations of others. I have tried some recommended girls at times and usually disappointed or underwhelmed. We each have our different evaluation criteria.
Remember I wrote a review of good time with Pin at Boss Massage (maybe 1 to 2 years ago), and Goatscrot indicated a good time also, and in your case, you did not hit it off and she was terrible for BJ etc. Someone else had a good time I think and posted pics of her. It is hard to figure sometimes. However different guys, different requirements.
I think reviews of the general standard of girls at venues are useful too, in fact more useful to me. Reviews can at least make me have a look in a shop or bar. I guess I got one really great girl from Billboard for a while due to that. Sponsored by a Farang now so off the scene. Shit, I hate how quickly the really good girls get taken away. ha ha. Lost a very hot body nude dancing girl out of Five Star recently as well. So most of my girls specifically reviewed in glowing terms, do not last that long, at the venue. I trust my reviews are not causing that, however cannot be 100% sure. Ha ha.
Franciscass
04-29-19, 09:22
Wrongo.
For e. G. Escorts are not freelancers, despite the fact they can both be categorized as sex workers..Actually escorts are free lancers by any definition of the term. They don't clock in anywhere can work wherever and whenever they please, can set their own rates within the guidelines of an agency they may be signed up with or at whatever price point they choose on sites like Smooci. They can pick and choose their clients obviously not when a booking is made but when they meet them at the door or in the lobby. Lots of escorts in addition to taking online bookings simultaneously cruise the bars and clubs where I imagine your definition of freelancer applies.
Really, it just an exercise in self-gratification and narcissism then.I heard my name!
Then why bother posting about the experience here? This is a forum that relies on the good will of anonymous men from all walks of life. To expect everyone to adhere to your version of what it means to make meaningful contributions is fanciful, to say the least. Most of us give to this forum in our own ways. Some give names and numbers. Some give pictures. Some give long-winded, blow-by-blow accounts of every excruciating detail of an encounter (guilty as charged). Some give endless cranky comments about how the old days were SOOOO much better than it is now. And some give actual intel about never-before seen venues. But we can't all do everything.
So I think let people submit whatever they want and just take in the information.
LittleBigMan
04-29-19, 12:09
I never really thought of it this way but I think that's part of the fun for myself as well. Sure sometimes I make the wrong call but most times it's the right choice. If I'm wrong it's no big deal. All I've lost is an couple of hours of my day and I can go out and select the next one.For sure one guy that is always happy never says a word gets all the benefits and can't see a thing and shoots off his mouth all the time the one eye wingman?
Steve 9696
04-29-19, 13:51
I heard my name!
This is a forum that relies on the good will of anonymous men from all walks of life. To expect everyone to adhere to your version of what it means to make meaningful contributions is fanciful, to say the least. Most of us give to this forum in our own ways. Some give names and numbers. Some give pictures. Some give long-winded, blow-by-blow accounts of every excruciating detail of an encounter (guilty as charged). Some give endless cranky comments about how the old days were SOOOO much better than it is now. And some give actual intel about never-before seen venues. But we can't all do everything.
So I think let people submit whatever they want and just take in the information.This is spot on. Personally, I come to the forum to read first hand accounts of every bodies latest antics and share detailed reports in return. Although I almost always post names I don't care if others do. I still enjoy reading the adventures. And the better the story, the more fun to read (looking at you Kumbu). This is why I come to Patts and Bangkok forums. Lively, interesting stuff going on daily, even though it's been a while for me to visit personally. (Coming soon!) In contrast the German FKK Lounge has spiraled off into whose Working Girl Psych degree is bigger and Captain69 is like a fucking tomb.
So keep on fucking and keep on writing about it! Please!
For those that enjoy reading detailed FRs, mine are spread out in the Brazil, London, Swiss, Austria, Shanghai, and Tokyo forums (oh and a real laugh in Taipei). FR enthusiasts PM me and I will send some "around the world" buffet.
Cute skinny deaf girl on Soi 4 refused me again today even as I approached. Then she showed me 1500 and 300 for Hotel on her phone. I nodded in approval. Yes no problem. Then she points to her friend, trying to FOB me on to another girl. I try to find where the problem is, and she types 18 on her phone. Not clear to me if she is 18 or not yet. However she seems to using her looks to pull guys over and then introduce them to the other deaf girls. Several of them there today. I will have to look another extended time to see if she ever goes with a guy or not. I will have my messages prepared on phone for next time.
Ended up taking a 20 YO from 5 Star, Waew. I have taken her before and first time was only moderate session, however I had the sense to know the problem was with me and not with her. 2nd time was fabulously good. Really nice GFE. Even nice soft slurpy BBBJ, at least 8 points. Did not CIM because I still wanted to fuck and we did several positions, all really good. She has lost weight since the first time and since I like slim, she is so much prettier now. Small tits saggy to be forgiven. Brownish skin typical Buri Ram girl but pretty for me. No surgeries. Great high ass, and very beautiful looking pussy, just landing strip up top.
Actually a number of the slimmer girls in there dancing nude were doable for me. More than one dancing a bit raunchy to show off the pussy.
Cute skinny deaf girl on Soi 4 refused me again today even as I approached. Then she showed me 1500 and 300 for Hotel on her phone. I nodded in approval. Yes no problem. Then she points to her friend, trying to FOB me on to another girl. I try to find where the problem is, and she types 18 on her phone. Not clear to me if she is 18 or not yet. However she seems to using her looks to pull guys over and then introduce them to the other deaf girls. Several of them there today. I will have to look another extended time to see if she ever goes with a guy or not. I will have my messages prepared on phone for next time.Is she heavily tattooed? I observed a mute in 4 doing a similar routine. She was very skinny, cute, was wearing cut off shorts and a vest. I did not approach her.
JonniDarkko
04-29-19, 23:58
Checked out L's near Kasalong. I've been seeing this girl named Fah. She's short about 5'0. Despite that I've had some awesome head with her. I come often to BKK and each time I've seen her. All sessions end with a big load on her cute face. Anyone experienced her yet?
Robert Long
04-30-19, 04:32
Had a few beers in Cowboy while watching the circus roll by. Spent some time in Lighthouse watching the bored dancers and then strolled down Soi 23 to check out the MP's. These ladies must be starving. They were so aggressive to get a customer, grabbing my arms and even saying good suck cook and fuck. I've never heard this before. It appeared that there were no customers around.
One pretty lady caught my eye and she was very sexy and even offered a discount massage. 300 thb 1 hour oil massage. So I weakened and said ok. We showered and went to the room. She took off her top to show some nice size tits. Then started the massage while talking about her life and how was my life etc. I rolled over and sat up to give her a kiss and we started some DFK long and deep. She became excited as I took off her skirt pant and started kissing her tummy and legs. She opened her legs and I went right in to lick her sweet pussy. She loved it and gave me a BBBJ.
Soon after she turned and mounted me reverse CG and we started a great round of fucking. Ask me not to cum in her pussy and I finished on her chest. I have never had service complete like this in an MP. She ask for my phone and if I had line. Put her line in and said she wanted to come to my room for the next session. She then asked for a little money for her kids in Issan. I gave 2000 thb and she was very happy. Never requested a condom and never discussed price. She is a pretty lady a little pimpui but nice body and she really like to fuck.
Thailand is a blessing, "so little time, so many women", I have to look up who said that, but he must have been in Thailand.
RL.
Checked out L's near Kasalong. I've been seeing this girl named Fah. She's short about 5'0. Despite that I've had some awesome head with her. I come often to BKK and each time I've seen her. All sessions end with a big load on her cute face. Anyone experienced her yet?Ah, do the L's girls do facials? I've never asked, but always thought that would be a nice finish!
BlueKangaroo
04-30-19, 07:14
I heard my name!
This is a forum that relies on the good will of anonymous men from all walks of life. To expect everyone to adhere to your version of what it means to make meaningful contributions is fanciful, to say the least. Most of us give to this forum in our own ways. Some give names and numbers. Some give pictures. Some give long-winded, blow-by-blow accounts of every excruciating detail of an encounter (guilty as charged). Some give endless cranky comments about how the old days were SOOOO much better than it is now. And some give actual intel about never-before seen venues. But we can't all do everything.
So I think let people submit whatever they want and just take in the information.100% agreed. Sometimes it's nice to read about an adventure another punter had, especially if you're toiling away at work and looking forward to your next holiday.
Siddarth1989
04-30-19, 08:03
Wonderful Mongers in the Paradise of mongering.
I will be visiting Thailand in the month of July and an looking forward to this trip. Having spent the last month or so reading the posts in this forum, I must say that some of the experiences that I have read about made me want to advance my ticket and get there immediately, but if only my job would permit me to do so.
An Indian, and proud about it, yet ashamed that my fellow countrymen have created such a bad reputation for us. Having lived in LOS Angeles for about 8 years of my life, I can say I have had my fair share of experiences, but none in Thailand. All men at some point misbehave, but there are so many Indians, if one were to logically look at ratio, then we'd be fine, but hey I can't ask for so much.
Anyways, getting to the point. Read that some places don't let men enter or women reject Indians, this is going to be not just fun, but challenging as well to break the ice and do my bit in helping to change the messed up reputation that we have.
Kumbu. Special mention as I enjoyed reading your reports.
Regards.
Sid.
Cute skinny deaf girl on Soi 4 refused me again today even as I approached. Then she showed me 1500 and 300 for Hotel on her phone. I nodded in approval. Yes no problem. Then she points to her friend, trying to FOB me on to another girl. I try to find where the problem is, and she types 18 on her phone. Not clear to me if she is 18 or not yet. However she seems to using her looks to pull guys over and then introduce them to the other deaf girls. Several of them there today. I will have to look another extended time to see if she ever goes with a guy or not. I will have my messages prepared on phone for next time.
Ended up taking a 20 YO from 5 Star, Waew. I have taken her before and first time was only moderate session, however I had the sense to know the problem was with me and not with her. 2nd time was fabulously good. Really nice GFE. Even nice soft slurpy BBBJ, at least 8 points. Did not CIM because I still wanted to fuck and we did several positions, all really good. She has lost weight since the first time and since I like slim, she is so much prettier now. Small tits saggy to be forgiven. Brownish skin typical Buri Ram girl but pretty for me. No surgeries. Great high ass, and very beautiful looking pussy, just landing strip up top.
Actually a number of the slimmer girls in there dancing nude were doable for me. More than one dancing a bit raunchy to show off the pussy.During my last visit, I asked her she said 1200, I said OK and said my hotel was just behind let's go, she then proposed her friend or we go to a different hotel. I was in that area for few days and I saw her standing in the same place and I don't think she went with anyone.
Crocodilexp
04-30-19, 08:54
Checked out L's near Kasalong. I've been seeing this girl named Fah. She's short about 5'0. Despite that I've had some awesome head with her. I come often to BKK and each time I've seen her. All sessions end with a big load on her cute face. Anyone experienced her yet?Thanks for the report, but it makes me wonder, if she's your regular and you have a good time with her, why do you care if other people have experienced her? Why would that matter?
Thailand is a blessing, "so little time, so many women", I have to look up who said that, but he must have been in Thailand.
RL.The number of older women or single mothers looking for a western man in Thailand must be astronomical. I get so many requests to help find a man for the girl. All my really good guy buddies are married already, so I can't help.
Thai women do outnumber the men (real men) considerably, even excluding the Toms. On MRT today, looked like 75% of passengers were women, and the men 25% includes the foreign tourists.
Thanks for the report, but it makes me wonder, if she's your regular and you have a good time with her, why do you care if other people have experienced her? Why would that matter?For his first time report, a bit strange really. Definitely fishing! Your comment was a little bit subtle. Ha ha.
Banana Boi
04-30-19, 10:31
She's short about 5'0. Despite that I've had some awesome head with her. Confusing comment. Do taller girls generally give better BJ and you were surprised a short girl gave a good BJ? I can't see how it's a factor unless you're in 69 position or you're super tall and she was on her knees.
JonniDarkko
04-30-19, 10:32
I'm am experienced monger in the state of HI. I go to BKK a lot and just wanted to share a few experiences. So far I've hit up all of Nana Plaza, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, Soi 6 Pattaya, 7 Heaven, Tulip, Wood Bar, Snow White. My list goes on and on. Out of all these places the aforementioned and Star of Light are definitely the best experiences I've had. If I was a shill would I type so eloquently LOL.
JonniDarkko
04-30-19, 10:33
Just go see her for yourself. Probably the cutest chick there at the moment.
CzarNicholas
04-30-19, 11:17
The number of older women or single mothers looking for a western man in Thailand must be astronomical. I get so many requests to help find a man for the girl. All my really good guy buddies are married already, so I can't help.
Thai women do outnumber the men (real men) considerably, even excluding the Toms. On MRT today, looked like 75% of passengers were women, and the men 25% includes the foreign tourists.Wow that sounds low.
As a generalization women use public transportation way more than men.
Then minorities (USA).
Then tourists.
There are exceptions of course, places where public transport is very popular like Moscow or the db in Germany.
I have spoken with many dancers in soi cowboy and nana, and have also observed many from thermae.
Many have said they use the public transport for work.
Some take bike home after midnight or the cheap buses.
I have been to major cities where its easily 80-90+% regularly.
I'm thinking Tijuana, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Diego, Miami, Montreal, Vancouver et al.
Confusing comment. Do taller girls generally give better BJ and you were surprised a short girl gave a good BJ? I can't see how it's a factor unless you're in 69 position or you're super tall and she was on her knees.Supposedly the "too tall" girls give head better, but I couldn't vouch for it. Saw a too tall one on the BTS last night. Great looking tits, considering. Softer looking than I expected and big. 5 foot 10 in flat shoes, broad shoulders. It had to be a LB, but not obvious from face and tits to me. Height, shoulders and hands looked wrong tough.
We feel relatively safer with 5 foot petite girls, that weigh 39 kilos.
A higher barfine in a Nana Plaza go-go bar has from my experience tended to indicate the girls are more amenable to at least understanding why the punter would expect more from them than the basic "lick around the edges (if that), cover up and proceed" fare. And they have been more amenable to agreeing upfront to provide what I have termed a "True GFE" and have been increasingly hearing on the ground from other mongers as "real sex" vs "safe sex". I am referring to BBFS+CIP or whatever else gets it done for some of us where standard, covered 'safe sex" will not.
It has been that way for me in several Nana go-go bars where certain supposedly Special girls require a higher barfine than others. Unlike many, most of those girls will not act shocked by the question if the higher barfine means the customer ought to get more or better service in this way. And that is a short step to them agreeing to it as well..There doesn't seem to be a correlation between higher barfine and type of service at the Nana Bars. Sometimes I ask about BB services myself and found this to be luck of the draw if I happen to meet a girl who does offer it without going over the establishment's barfine. I ask about the barfine before going in as there is no reason to get hassled. At Geisha, the higher barfine was for dancers with bigger tits. At other places, the higher barfine may be for a coyote.
1st one vomited all over whilst trying to deepthroat me.
2nd promised anal didn't even get the tip in.
3rd one tried stealing money from me after sex.
I heard the closet door bang whilst I was in the shower.
I left the water running and came out quietly and caught her red handed with money in her hand.
And to make matters worse she got really shitty with me, I went back and told the mamasan the whole story, she just seemed really annoyed.
I'll never go back.
High prices.
Ugly girls.This just sounds like you had some bad luck at this place. I had 2 girls here who were solid experiences. FWIW, I've had a similar experience to your's from a Billboard girl, but I won't knock the establishment because of a few bad apples.
There doesn't seem to be a correlation between higher barfine and type of service at the Nana Bars. Sometimes I ask about BB services myself and found this to be luck of the draw if I happen to meet a girl who does offer it without going over the establishment's barfine. I ask about the barfine before going in as there is no reason to get hassled. At Geisha, the higher barfine was for dancers with bigger tits. At other places, the higher barfine may be for a coyote.I did not mean to suggest that one reason Nana gogo bars impose a two tier barfine system is because the girls requiring one tier or the other more readily agree upfront to engage in BB. It isn't like the Anal side of the line in Eden Club on Soi 7/1.
I only meant what I said about it being "my experience" that girls working in two tier barfine Nana gogo bars have agreed to it upfront with me more readily than girls in bars without a two tier system. And that has been "my experience" regardless of the official or stated reason for the two tiers in a given bar; bigger tits, younger, no baby, prettier, whatever.
I realize your and others' experiences may differ.
And I can only report that being the case (for me) in Nana. That has not at all been my experience with two tier barfine gogo bars on Soi Cowboy.
Wonderful Mongers in the Paradise of mongering.
I will be visiting Thailand in the month of July and an looking forward to this trip. Having spent the last month or so reading the posts in this forum, I must say that some of the experiences that I have read about made me want to advance my ticket and get there immediately, but if only my job would permit me to do so.
An Indian, and proud about it, yet ashamed that my fellow countrymen have created such a bad reputation for us. Having lived in LOS Angeles for about 8 years of my life, I can say I have had my fair share of experiences, but none in Thailand. All men at some point misbehave, but there are so many Indians, if one were to logically look at ratio, then we'd be fine, but hey I can't ask for so much.
Anyways, getting to the point. Read that some places don't let men enter or women reject Indians, this is going to be not just fun, but challenging as well to break the ice and do my bit in helping to change the messed up reputation that we have.
Kumbu. Special mention as I enjoyed reading your reports.
Regards.
Sid.You're all fine, don't even think or worry about it, you'll be around everywhere you want and have a great time. Most first timers don't stray too far from the big name MPs and go-gos anyways, all of which is good to go. Have fun.
Same with Kazy Kozy on Soi Cowboy. I posted the first report on that bar when it opened, too, and thought it was just "meh". I don't believe I have seen a subsequent report on the place that expressed a dramatic improvement over that. Maybe I missed it.
Could be we are tapping out on the number of better than average girls that can play musical chairs from one go-go bar to another to improve upon their line ups. But I suspect that is again something that moves in cycles and will turn around.Kazy Kozy was very disappointing. Agreed on that last line.
Exactly. It's hilarious that so many gals claim to be from Bkk or the north, but are really Isaan gals with nose and chin implants and jawline shaved. Thermae has some real plastic surgery nightmares.
You have to hand it to those Korean surgeons though. They can take some real tree climbers and make some beauties.Those surgeons are definitely talented. However, these Thai girls are going to the extreme with the pointy, witch jawline which I don't see anywhere in Korea or other Asian countries. Not a fan of the pink eye look either when it comes to make up.
Confusing comment. Do taller girls generally give better BJ and you were surprised a short girl gave a good BJ? I can't see how it's a factor unless you're in 69 position or you're super tall and she was on her knees.Small mouth.
I did not mean to suggest that one reason Nana gogo bars impose a two tier barfine system is because the girls requiring one tier or the other more readily agree upfront to engage in BB. It isn't like the Anal side of the line in Eden Club on Soi 7/1.
I only meant what I said about it being "my experience" that girls working in two tier barfine Nana gogo bars have agreed to it upfront with me more readily than girls in bars without a two tier system. And that has been "my experience" regardless of the official or stated reason for the two tiers in a given bar; bigger tits, younger, no baby, prettier, whatever.
I realize your and others' experiences may differ.
And I can only report that being the case (for me) in Nana. That has not at all been my experience with two tier barfine gogo bars on Soi Cowboy.We're just sharing information. I wish, and maybe is does given your experience, that the higher barfine meant a more expansive menu. It'd certainly make things easier.
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bangkok in June and I wanted to ask where is a good spot to find black girl freelancers. Of course I'll be hooking up with Thai girls but I want to add a little variety. So if anyone knows of a good spot or place, please let me know. Thank you all!
Happy mongering!
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bangkok in June and I wanted to ask where is a good spot to find black girl freelancers. Of course I'll be hooking up with Thai girls but I want to add a little variety. So if anyone knows of a good spot or place, please let me know. Thank you all!
Happy mongering!Try Sukhumvit road, anywhere between soi 3 and soi 7. 1.
But beware, there are girls with big hands and feets there also.
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bangkok in June and I wanted to ask where is a good spot to find black girl freelancers. Of course I'll be hooking up with Thai girls but I want to add a little variety. So if anyone knows of a good spot or place, please let me know. Thank you all!
Happy mongering!African freelancers / streetwalkers generally come out later at night. Think past midnight at least. They like to sit at the bar carts to blend in. There are periodic reports of crackdowns on the African working girls, hence the low profile.
Areas to canvass: Sukhumvit soi 4 to the Ibis / Novotel, Sukhumvit soi 3 to the Grace Hotel, and on the odd side of Sukhumvit Road from soi 3 up to The Westin and T21. The Miami Hotel near Suk 15 used to be a bit of a hot spot.
Otherwise just keep your eyes open anywhere in the lower Suk / Nana area anytime of day. If you see an African lady and get the vibe that she is working, she probably is.
SL.
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bangkok in June and I wanted to ask where is a good spot to find black girl freelancers. Of course I'll be hooking up with Thai girls but I want to add a little variety. So if anyone knows of a good spot or place, please let me know. Thank you all!
Happy mongering!Southern Africa.
There are very few African girls available in Thailand. I have just returned from a 3 week stay and I think I saw maybe a dozen African women and at least half of those were accompanied. Really, as has always been stated on ISG. If you want African go to Africa.
If you see an African lady and get the vibe that she is working, she probably is.I don't think I've ever seen an African lady in Thailand who was not a prostitute.
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bangkok in June and I wanted to ask where is a good spot to find black girl freelancers. Of course I'll be hooking up with Thai girls but I want to add a little variety. So if anyone knows of a good spot or place, please let me know. Thank you all!
Happy mongering!RTFF. There are African girls at the cart bars on SOI 5, plus I have seen them at a restaurant on SOI Nana. As recently as April.
This Saturday to Monday will see the new Kings three-day coronation ceremony. Does anyone know if clubs opening hours or the buying of alcohol will be affected on any of these days?
This Saturday to Monday will see the new Kings three-day coronation ceremony. Does anyone know if clubs opening hours or the buying of alcohol will be affected on any of these days?No wonder flights into Thailand are so cheap at those times. I was wondering what was going on.
We're just sharing information. I wish, and maybe is does given your experience, that the higher barfine meant a more expansive menu. It'd certainly make things easier.It sure would make it easier. Punters who want Anal can find it openly stated on offer at certain venues, perhaps with an additional 500 baht surcharge for it. How about BB on offer at certain venues with an additional 500 surcharge for it AND as long as the customer can show a recent (less than 1 month) negative HIV blood check document from Thai Red Cross? Lol. Yes, just a wish here too.
I can only surmise that my experience in getting Nana Plaza gogo bargirls to agree upfront to BB with me more frequently in two tier barfine bars has to do with those bars either knowingly or unknowingly instituting a Reward Incentive for closing more barfine deals with customers.
Whether the Special girl in the two tier barfine club gets a bigger share of the higher barfine or gets nothing more from it at all, there is a prestige associated with being among the Special girls in that club. Special girls in the bar probably get barfined more often based on an assumption, justified or not, that there is indeed something "Special" about them. Some girls who want to remain in that Special category and those in that bar who aspire to earn entry into it are more likely to agree to more and provide more to remain or get there.
Again, this is a perhaps inadvertant Reward Incentive program that seems to produce that kind of result for me in Nana gogo bars where the difference between the two tiers is somewhat nominal and where there is little or none of the no-sex Coyote barfining deal that exists in some Soi Cowboy gogo bars.
And I am also not talking about the kind of dramatically higher barfine for some girls in a venue that is obviously designed to discourage customers from barfining them for any reason, which is also a situation that tends to exist more in Soi Cowboy gogo bars than Nana gogo bars.
OrientalLover
05-01-19, 19:21
Today Wednesday went to NANA plaza. Looked at few of the bars finally settled into Billboard. It was around 9. 30.
Mama find me a seat near the bathtub. Girls in the bath tub were topless. Most of them had reasonable size tits.
Ask for a cola and enjoy the show for next half hour. There was no hassle from anyone to buy more drinks or pick a lady.
Finally settled on #28, Mai from Isan. A tall girl probably 5 ft 6 in with good size natural boobs.
She came over we settled on a sofa. Buy her 2 lady drinks and mama a cola. She was not a shy girl, she was fine with tongue kiss and she was rubbing my dick over the shorts. Deal was done for short time at my hotel. I paid the bar fine 700 baht and 500 baht for drinks. Off we went to our hotel.
Had a good time with her for next 2 and half hours.
Pay her 3000 baht and gave another 500 baht as tip.
These "menu" dreams are mental masturbations. Sure some girls treat it as a pure economic transaction offering certain "services" to all.
That's why you have escorts posting "menus".
With a girl who has choice. , whether to sleep with you or not. Will also exercise choice and options whether to perform or even try to perform certain sexual acts with you.
So no set "menu" will ever exist apart from the "core standards". What may be on the menu for you, may not be there for me and vice versa.
For e. G. I would be willing to bet that the "menu" offered to Mr. Tooms becomes different. Or shall we say expands after he sits with a girl and talks with her for a while, buying her a drink or two. Making her more comfortable, etc and or willing to try something she would be unwilling to try with just any schmuck that came in and pointed out #44 for e. G.. I suspect his hiv test and or his vasectormy also affects the menu that may be offered to him.
Menu may expand if you are a regular customer. Menu may expand if she has mismanaged and her money and rent is due tomorrow, etc etc etc.. Menu will shrink if you are over endowed, etc
It sure would make it easier. Punters who want Anal can find it openly stated on offer at certain venues, perhaps with an additional 500 baht surcharge for it. How about BB on offer at certain venues with an additional 500 surcharge for it AND as long as the customer can show a recent (less than 1 month) negative HIV blood check document from Thai Red Cross? Lol. Yes, just a wish here too.
I can only surmise that my experience in getting Nana Plaza gogo bargirls to agree upfront to BB with me more frequently in two tier barfine bars has to do with those bars either knowingly or unknowingly instituting a Reward Incentive for closing more barfine deals with customers.
Whether the Special girl in the two tier barfine club gets a bigger share of the higher barfine or gets nothing more from it at all, there is a prestige associated with being among the Special girls in that club. Special girls in the bar probably get barfined more often based on an assumption, justified or not, that there is indeed something "Special" about them. Some girls who want to remain in that Special category and those in that bar who aspire to earn entry into it are more likely to agree to more and provide more to remain or get there.
Again, this is a perhaps inadvertant Reward Incentive program that seems to produce that kind of result for me in Nana gogo bars where the difference between the two tiers is somewhat nominal and where there is little or none of the no-sex Coyote barfining deal that exists in some Soi Cowboy gogo bars.
And I am also not talking about the kind of dramatically higher barfine for some girls in a venue that is obviously designed to discourage customers from barfining them for any reason, which is also a situation that tends to exist more in Soi Cowboy gogo bars than Nana gogo bars.Which other bars have the 2 tier BF system at Nana Plaza? I've only run into it at Geisha. Admittedly, I don't venture out beyond Butterflies (I like the red couches by the jacuzzi) and Billboard. I just happened to stop by Geisha just because of proximity, and the place managed to get me to BF a couple girls. Though this is probably why each of our experiences are different. I'm used to just a 700 bar fine, and just about a 50/50 chance for the type of services you seek. Well probably closer to maybe 2 out of 5. So from my perspective, it just seems like the luck of the draw for that though covered FS works for me too.
Speaking of Soi Cowboy, I stopped by a couple weeks ago for the first time in a couple years and maybe 6 visits to the LOS ago. Still can't get into it for some reason there. Stopped by many bars but only Shark and Cowboy 2 were fun for me. There was a time when I preferred Cowboy to Nana. Maybe it's the layered bar fine system there.
Those surgeons are definitely talented. However, these Thai girls are going to the extreme with the pointy, witch jawline which I don't see anywhere in Korea or other Asian countries. Not a fan of the pink eye look either when it comes to make up.Yes, the long pointed chin implant is quite off-putting. Some of the surgical results are just bizarre.
These "menu" dreams are mental masturbations. Sure some girls treat it as a pure economic transaction offering certain "services" to all.
That's why you have escorts posting "menus".
With a girl who has choice. , whether to sleep with you or not. Will also exercise choice and options whether to perform or even try to perform certain sexual acts with you.
So no set "menu" will ever exist apart from the "core standards". What may be on the menu for you, may not be there for me and vice versa.
For e. G. I would be willing to bet that the "menu" offered to Mr. Tooms becomes different. Or shall we say expands after he sits with a girl and talks with her for a while, buying her a drink or two. Making her more comfortable, etc and or willing to try something she would be unwilling to try with just any schmuck that came in and pointed out #44 for e. G.. I suspect his hiv test and or his vasectormy also affects the menu that may be offered to him.
Menu may expand if you are a regular customer. Menu may expand if she has mismanaged and her money and rent is due tomorrow, etc etc etc.. Menu will shrink if you are over endowed, etcI agree with most of that. And the menu might also expand in bars with a nominal two tier barfine system that tends to offer a Reward Incentive for girls to say yes to negotiation proposals more readily in order to close the deal faster or more often, jusify the higher barfine being paid and earn their keep in the "Special girl" category. It has worked out that way for me at least.
But I don't agree with the idea that certain conditions tending to produce better results are "dreams" or "mental masturbation". I think they are real and worth applying to your mongering game. The conditions you listed after your opening statements are real.
If I were to say my (and probably your) chances of getting a notably above average Thermae girl who ordinarily has plenty of choices to agree upfront to going BB with me the night before rent is due, after the bars were closed for some Royal holidays and when it is pouring down rain outside, that would not be living in a dream or wanking myself. I believe those are conditions that can and will expand the menu and improve the chances of producing my desired result. Why not apply or exploit them?
Or maybe I have misunderstood what you mean by "dreams" and "mental masturbation".
Those surgeons are definitely talented. However, these Thai girls are going to the extreme with the pointy, witch jawline which I don't see anywhere in Korea or other Asian countries. Not a fan of the pink eye look either when it comes to make up.My GF has a slightly more pointy chin than average, slim face and slim little upturned nose, all totally natural, so no need for any face surgeries at all, in my opinion. Of course Thais see it differently, and say they need a taller nose, but why? I don't get it.
Very light blue, green or other light coloured contacts on eyes does look slightly strange on Thai girls. Can't say I have seen pink yet. Sounds rather weird, but maybe not as bad as the strange surgeries.
For me, many girls that had surgeries on face look worse afterwards rather than improved. Dropped various bargirls after their nose jobs or tit jobs. Looks definitely went downhill badly for my taste. Coloured eyes or hair rarely bothered me too much. So to me, shape is way more important than colour. I pray that high bridge and convex nose jobs will eventually become unfashionable. Coconut shell tits too. Ha ha.
1st one vomited all over whilst trying to deepthroat me.
2nd promised anal didn't even get the tip in.
3rd one tried stealing money from me after sex.
I heard the closet door bang whilst I was in the shower.
I left the water running and came out quietly and caught her red handed with money in her hand.
And to make matters worse she got really shitty with me, I went back and told the mamasan the whole story, she just seemed really annoyed.
I'll never go back.
High prices.
Ugly girls.Not wise to take drunk girls. Vomitting is a problem.
You don't state explicitly which bar you refer to. Can we assume Billboard? Fat mamasan is a bad person. Avoid!
You don't want to leave money lying around while you shower. Girls can be desperate for money.
One can get bad choice girls from anywhere. Does not really make the place a shithole. That is an emotional reaction.
It is all about the particular girl, not really the bar in terms of how she performs back at your room.
No bar has all really great girls. Its about picking a classy girl that can be fun. Not always easy.
What I would say, the success rate for Farangs must be better at bars where there are mostly Farangs and girls prefer them.
Get a fun girl experienced with Farangs who likes Farangs, or whatever if you are not a Farang. I just guess.
I had a very memorable lovey dovey pretty girl from Billboard. Was a big favourite while she lasted. Hard to find another one there so good, but may well be.
I read several reports, mentioning two tier barfine values. Does anyone actually explain why the two tiers? Is it just the gogo girls verses the Coyotes, or better girls verses the plain ones, or perhaps the higher priced girls come from the agency supplying girls? Or we just don't know what this purpose of it. If high BF, she better be damn stunning for me, and really into it.
Banana Boi
05-02-19, 08:24
What I would say, the success rate for Farangs must be better at bars where there are mostly Farangs and girls prefer them.
Get a fun girl experienced with Farangs who likes Farangs, or whatever if you are not a Farang. I ask many gogo girls why they choose a certain gogo bar over others. Most common answer is they like the mamasan or their friends work there. When I get into more detail about why they choose a Farang bar or an Asian bar the more common answer is they are a girl that a Farang // Asian prefer so they work at that gogo bar since they will make more drink / boom money. It has little to do if they prefer a Farang over an Asian or vice versa. Of course if a Farang asks a girl which nationality they like they will answer they prefer Farang. Same applies if an Asian asks. If I tell a girl I'm from UK they will say they love England and want to go to London. I tell them to get lost after that since I am not from the UK.
KilledSoul
05-02-19, 09:16
Wonderful Mongers in the Paradise of mongering.
I will be visiting Thailand in the month of July and an looking forward to this trip. Having spent the last month or so reading the posts in this forum, I must say that some of the experiences that I have read about made me want to advance my ticket and get there immediately, but if only my job would permit me to do so.
An Indian, and proud about it, yet ashamed that my fellow countrymen have created such a bad reputation for us. Having lived in LOS Angeles for about 8 years of my life, I can say I have had my fair share of experiences, but none in Thailand. All men at some point misbehave, but there are so many Indians, if one were to logically look at ratio, then we'd be fine, but hey I can't ask for so much.
Anyways, getting to the point. Read that some places don't let men enter or women reject Indians, this is going to be not just fun, but challenging as well to break the ice and do my bit in helping to change the messed up reputation that we have.
Kumbu. Special mention as I enjoyed reading your reports.
Regards.
Sid.Are you coming from India or US? If US, just use the most powerful aphrodisiac in world, money. Be generous and don't optimize for ROI like other desis. You will have a great time.
I ask many gogo girls why they choose a certain gogo bar over others. Most common answer is they like the mamasan or their friends work there. When I get into more detail about why they choose a Farang bar or an Asian bar the more common answer is they are a girl that a Farang // Asian prefer so they work at that gogo bar since they will make more drink / boom money. It has little to do if they prefer a Farang over an Asian or vice versa. Of course if a Farang asks a girl which nationality they like they will answer they prefer Farang. Same applies if an Asian asks. If I tell a girl I'm from UK they will say they love England and want to go to London. I tell them to get lost after that since I am not from the UK.I tend to ask more whether the girl gets lots of Asian customers or lots of Farang, or both. So yes clearly some girls are not Asian guy spec. However I do find there is a strong correlation. Girls that have mostly farang customers will tend to say they prefer them. Girls that have mostly Asian customers do not still claim to prefer Farangs, so much, however I probably would bother to put them on the spot and ask that directly. You are right their is no point to ask a question if you are expecting a bullshit answer.
I think girls often prefer what they are used to. Have to allow for variation of course, good guys and assholes. Definitely their are girls looking to pick a Farang BF or sponsor (or two). some want a Korean BF, or japanese, etc. Some strangely want to support a Thai boy. Definitely good to avoid these girls, unless they still enjoy their fucking work. Some girls have a Tom partner but still seem to get into fucking with a guy. Maybe ambidextrous.
There is little doubt to me that nearly all my regulars are Farang spec girls and these girls prefer farangs as well. Maybe one or two of my regulars could attract guys from any nationality at all. My Lao girl has quite light skin and quite pretty face (but no surgeries) so I think Asian guys could like her, if they go for slim. I first saw her sitting outside an MP, and was pretty enough to be a "must do" for me. Very non-typical of the the general girls in the MPs.
Clearly there are girls that prefer Farangs and girls that clearly like Japanese, Koreans, etc. So we have to try to discern it one way or another. Plenty of girls will admit to me that hardly any Asian guys would choose them. They have to be least very used to Farangs. So I say, a girl with very low Farang experience, is a huge risk for me.
Of course girls want to go to London, no negative points for that. They could maybe make big money as a hooker there. Much better for them there than the USA I would reckon. London is an absolutely prime desired destination. So seems you are just trying to be difficult, on this issue.
In soapies, I noticed that Thai men tend to prefer more voluptuous type of Chinese looking girls (too puffy for me) where I preferred skinny Thai looking girls. A do see a lot of Japanese guys walking with girls superior looking, than the girls walking with the Farangs, on Soi Cowboy for example. However I also see Japanese guys sometimes with the high surgeries girls or the Ladyboys. Farangs walking with girls, have fewer very pretty girls, probably fewer high surgeries, and fewer ladyboys as well. Many have girls that I just would not give a 2nd glance I guess.
So do Asian guys go for skinny girls with very small tits, or is tits a very important criteria along with white skin? Tits are probably least important for me for size as long as not horrible coconuts or or horrible sag bags. Nice shape is good, size not a big deal.
In 1991 it was much easier. Nearly all the hookers were well used to doing plenty of Farangs unless they were newbies. All night GFE was pretty standard. Number of girl failures was definitely way lower although must have helped that I was 35 YO, and easier to please back then. Must have taken plenty of girls whose looks would not be good enough for me now.
I expect that the girl I took from Rainbow 2 recently won't last, unless she survives on dancing salary. Most customers are Asian but she is not Asian guy spec. She is very Issan but not a broad nose, skin not that light. If she wants to be BFed, she might have to move to another bar and up her game instead of play around like monkey (probably not handle her drinks). Her body was really fine no surgeries. Basically I was scammed in that she announced the "period" at the last possible moment, when supposed to fuck, and refused to get the shorts off. Very fortunate I never pay the girl upfront. I did not think I specifically had to ask girls if they are having a period before BFing, and if they have a sponge stuffed up the pussy. ha ha. I might from now on. She admitted to low Farang experience, so I should have decided against her really. Low experience means they can't really know if they like Farangs. She was relieved I could speak Thai, her English was probably low to non existent, Japanese would be zero too.
Is important to discern which girls likely are a waste of time and money. I probably never ever acquired a favourite girl from a Rainbow bar. Maybe that is why I see very few Farangs in there. I did have some repeat girls from Baccara.
CzarNicholas
05-02-19, 09:24
Not wise to take drunk girls. Vomitting is a problem.
You don't state explicitly which bar you refer to. Can we assume Billboard? Fat mamasan is a bad person. Avoid!
You don't want to leave money lying around while you shower. Girls can be desperate for money.
One can get bad choice girls from anywhere. Does not really make the place a shithole. That is an emotional reaction.
It is all about the particular girl, not really the bar in terms of how she performs back at your room.
No bar has all really great girls.I don't drink so I never take drunk girls!
I don't leave money around.
It was hidden in the closet.
My biggest problem was I thought I had a rapport with the geisha mamasan (I have spoken with her 10-20 x in the past).
And she seemed upset with me that I was complaining about this hooker trying to steal money from me.
Post-script, billboard has some of the rudest / most disrespectful bar staff (drink servers) I have ever seen in any brothel / strip club anywhere in the world.
I read several reports, mentioning two tier barfine values. Does anyone actually explain why the two tiers? Is it just the gogo girls verses the Coyotes, or better girls verses the plain ones, or perhaps the higher priced girls come from the agency supplying girls? Or we just don't know what this purpose of it. If high BF, she better be damn stunning for me, and really into it.In reality, it is probably agency girls vs girls recruited directly by the bar. But that is only a guess since I often do not see the difference when a mamasan says it is because the higher tier girls are prettier, younger, whatever. And only one mamasan ever said that. At Mandarin in Nana as I recall. Usually, the mamasan just shrugs and says nothing about why the two tiers.
Again, I'm talking about a 1,500 baht barfine vs a 700 or 800 baht barfine in the bar. I am not talking about a ridiculous 3,000 baht barfine vs 700 or 800 baht that you encounter in some Soi Cowboy gogo bars.
No matter. I don't really need to hear what they say is the reason. I only use the fact of it being a two tier system (700 vs 1,500) to work my BB requirement into the conversation. "So, what makes you so Special I have to pay a higher barfine? Does that mean you will blah blah blah for me?" That sort of thing. Insert whatever extra service one requires for those blah blah blahs.
Those kind of two tier barfine bars in Nana are the only bars where my bringing it up that way never caused the girl to flinch or stupidly over react to the question. Instead, I have had them turn to look me square in the face and say, "Just tell me what you want." I do and the answer more often than not is a clear and uncomplicated "Yes".
BTW, when the two tiers are only 700 or so vs 1,500 baht, I have not been pushed to pay any more to the girl either way. It has still been 2,000-2500 ST for the higher barfine girls as it is for the lower ones.
If I tell a girl I'm from UK they will say they love England and want to go to London. I tell them to get lost after that since I am not from the UK.I would buy her a drink because A. she knows that England is (a part of) the UK and B. she knows London is in England.
Wonderful Mongers in the Paradise of mongering.
I will be visiting Thailand in the month of July and an looking forward to this trip. Having spent the last month or so reading the posts in this forum, I must say that some of the experiences that I have read about made me want to advance my ticket and get there immediately, but if only my job would permit me to do so.
An Indian, and proud about it, yet ashamed that my fellow countrymen have created such a bad reputation for us. Having lived in LOS Angeles for about 8 years of my life, I can say I have had my fair share of experiences, but none in Thailand. All men at some point misbehave, but there are so many Indians, if one were to logically look at ratio, then we'd be fine, but hey I can't ask for so much..On my last trip to Thailand I went to Soi Cowboy, I was allowed in most of the places, at Baccara the guy at the door stopped me from going in and spoke to me in a rude manner, I asked him in a calm way what the problem was? And he said "Members Only" and pointed to the street. I asked him how I could become a member, I asked him how much do I have to pay to enter and he spoke back in a rude way again. I turned away and headed to another place, not like it was the only place in Soi Cowboy. I then went to Tilac and sat outside and ordered a beer, I tipped the mamasan who brought me my beer. The manasan pointed to the door of Tilac and said that there were nice girls inside if I wanted to go in. And she then escorted me into Tilac and got me a nice place to sit. She also told me to tell her if I like any of the girls which were dancing on the stage.
If you go and spend money, be respectful of everyone at the place you will definitely be welcome to a majority of the places.
I also have a trip planned in the coming weeks. I will be visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for a week each.
Hope this helps.
TheTank.
Or maybe I have misunderstood what you mean by "dreams" and "mental masturbation".We agree. I was merely talking about your ruminations of a preset "menu".
CzarNicholas
05-02-19, 17:28
I don't drink so I never take drunk girls!
I don't leave money around.
It was hidden in the closet.
My biggest problem was I thought I had a rapport with the geisha mamasan (I have spoken with her 10-20 x in the past).
And she seemed upset with me that I was complaining about this hooker trying to steal money from me.
Post-script, billboard has some of the rudest / most disrespectful bar staff (drink servers) I have ever seen in any brothel / strip club anywhere in the world.She was about 25 tall thin.
Its very dark in there so I did not notice inside the bar.
But once I was on top of her missionary I noticed a scar on her mouth.
It could be from anything.
It shocked me I didn't notice in the bar, but she knew how to hide it.
But it could have been a minor cleft palate repair?
Or somebody smashed her in the mouth with a beer mug for stealing his money?
No name? Or number? That I remember.
Alex Deuce
05-02-19, 18:01
Not wise to take drunk girls. Vomitting is a problem.
You don't state explicitly which bar you refer to. Can we assume Billboard? Fat mamasan is a bad person. Avoid!
You don't want to leave money lying around while you shower. Girls can be desperate for money.
One can get bad choice girls from anywhere. Does not really make the place a shithole. That is an emotional reaction.
It is all about the particular girl, not really the bar in terms of how she performs back at your room.
No bar has all really great girls. Its about picking a classy girl that can be fun. Not always easy.
What I would say, the success rate for Farangs must be better at bars where there are mostly Farangs and girls prefer them.
Get a fun girl experienced with Farangs who likes Farangs, or whatever if you are not a Farang. I just guess.
I had a very memorable lovey dovey pretty girl from Billboard. Was a big favourite while she lasted. Hard to find another one there so good, but may well be.What did momma do for you to label her as bad person? I don't know if we are talking about the same person but the momma that my friends and I dealt with was upfront, funny and managed our transactions like a professional.
OrientalLover
05-02-19, 18:49
Went to Soi Cowboy tonight Thursday. I went straight to Crazy House. They were charging entry fee for East Asians as well, the guys in front of me look like Japanese but they could be Koreans or Chinese. I am terrible at distinguishing these Nationalities even though I work with lot of East Asians back home. The door man wave me in, no entry fee for me.
Mama find a seat next to the stage. Ordered a cola and enjoy the pussy, boobs and legs on show for next half hour. No pressure from anyone to buy more or select a lady.
Finally settled into a 5 feet well endowed girl who was dancing with nothing on. She came over bought her 2 lady drinks and bought a cola for mama. She was from Chiangmai. I fondled, and licked her boobs and play with her pussy. She put my finger on her asshole and ask me do you like anal. I replied of course.
After a while ask her for short time she told me 3000 baht for her and 700 baht bar fine. She ask me to pay everything upfront. I should have said no but did not want to kill the mood so I paid. I settle the bill, it was 500 baht, by the way every time I order the drink they ask me to sign the bill.
We walk down to Soi 21 side to catch the taxi to my hotel in Soi 11.
Those Taxi mafia bastards want 200 baht for the ride. It was same yesterday from Nana plaza he wanted 100 baht. Again not to cause a scene I paid 200 baht. What do you guys do with these Taxi mafia? Do you just go to the sort time hotel or you just pay them what ever those bastards ask.
Anyway back to the hotel we showered clean up and onto the bed. She is a good kisser but she would not allow me to go down on her. She told me she don't want to cum. Then she started to give me blow job it did not even last 5 minutes. Condom on and started to fuck her, since I was not warmed up enough it took a good 30 minutes of pounding before I cum. Usually if I had a good long foreplay I'll not last more than 15 minutes in fucking. I guess she probably learn the lesson, she can't rush things upfront and expect to finish quickly.
I did not tip her, I gave 100 baht for taxi which she ask, I guess it is kind of a tip.
So there it is some you win and some you lose but the battle goes on. I'm looking forward to tomorrow already.
Crocodilexp
05-02-19, 18:50
An Indian, and proud about it, yet ashamed that my fellow countrymen have created such a bad reputation for us. Having lived in LOS Angeles for about 8 years of my life, I can say I have had my fair share of experiences, but none in Thailand.Don't worry too much. Many Farang expats like to put down Indians, and this board reflects that. To be honest, unlike 10-20 years ago, we Farang are no longer quite at top of the ladder in Thailand, bit salty about it, and looking for someone to put down.
You won't have trouble finding girls. Thais can be a bit racist towards Indians, some girls dislike them and a few clubs deny entry, but most of the working girls are not too squeamish, especially in Pattaya. Some even prefer Indians as they tend to be fairly easy customers (in terms of bedroom expectations, not in terms of price negotiations) once they know how to deal with them.
1st one vomited all over whilst trying to deepthroat me.
2nd promised anal didn't even get the tip in.
3rd one tried stealing money from me after sex.
I heard the closet door bang whilst I was in the shower.
I left the water running and came out quietly and caught her red handed with money in her hand.
And to make matters worse she got really shitty with me, I went back and told the mamasan the whole story, she just seemed really annoyed.
I'll never go back.
High prices.
Ugly girls.CzarNicholas,
Would you be so kind to name and shame the shithole?
My GF has a slightly more pointy chin than average, slim face and slim little upturned nose, all totally natural, so no need for any face surgeries at all, in my opinion. Of course Thais see it differently, and say they need a taller nose, but why? I don't get it.
Very light blue, green or other light coloured contacts on eyes does look slightly strange on Thai girls. Can't say I have seen pink yet. Sounds rather weird, but maybe not as bad as the strange surgeries.
For me, many girls that had surgeries on face look worse afterwards rather than improved. Dropped various bargirls after their nose jobs or tit jobs. Looks definitely went downhill badly for my taste. Coloured eyes or hair rarely bothered me too much. So to me, shape is way more important than colour. I pray that high bridge and convex nose jobs will eventually become unfashionable. Coconut shell tits too. Ha ha.Maybe for your GF she doesn't need it or maybe she does; I don't know what she looks like. I'm sure she looks just fine. I'm not against aesthetic surgeries because it can be done correctly and not noticeable.
The issue is these girls are on a budget for the most part and get budget surgeries. The coconut shell tits (haha!) with the heavy dark scar under the breast is unacceptable by today's standards, and I see girls dancing in their 20's with this. Why? Having the incision under the breast is common and can be done where it is only slightly noticeable. These girls have thin frames and flat chests, so going through the armpit should be more common place.
As for the style of surgery Thai girls get for their face, absolutely agree, and I don't get it either. The pointy chin is so unattractive and unnatural to me. Jay Leno must be godlike to these women.
The pink eye looks is done by make up, pink eye shadow. I don't mind colored contacts as well.
CzarNicholas
05-03-19, 04:48
CzarNicholas,
Would you be so kind to name and shame the shithole?Dec 2018, January / Feb 2019!
Don't worry too much. Many Farang expats like to put down Indians, and this board reflects that. To be honest, unlike 10-20 years ago, we Farang are no longer quite at top of the ladder in Thailand, bit salty about it, and looking for someone to put down.
You won't have trouble finding girls. Thais can be a bit racist towards Indians, some girls dislike them and a few clubs deny entry, but most of the working girls are not too squeamish, especially in Pattaya. Some even prefer Indians as they tend to be fairly easy customers (in terms of bedroom expectations, not in terms of price negotiations) once they know how to deal with them.I don't think it has much to do with "looking for someone to put down," although I am sure some feel that way. It is about how the influx of Asian punters has changed the nature of the P4 P scene in Bangkok. It is now a very "Asian" scene as the majority of punters are Asian. What Asian dudes like and expect differs in many aspects to what Western guys like and expect. For many of us Westerners, it is not as fun of enjoyable. Thermae then and now is the perfect example.
CzarNicholas
05-03-19, 05:58
I tend to ask more whether the girl gets lots of Asian customers or lots of Farang, or both. So yes clearly some girls are not Asian guy spec. However I do find there is a strong correlation. Girls that have mostly farang customers will tend to say they prefer them. Girls that have mostly Asian customers do not still claim to prefer Farangs, so much, however I probably would bother to put them on the spot and ask that directly. You are right their is no point to ask a question if you are expecting a bullshit answer.
I think girls often prefer what they are used to. Have to allow for variation of course, good guys and assholes. Definitely their are girls looking to pick a Farang BF or sponsor (or two). some want a Korean BF, or japanese, etc. Some strangely want to support a Thai boy. Definitely good to avoid these girls, unless they still enjoy their fucking work. Some girls have a Tom partner but still seem to get into fucking with a guy. Maybe ambidextrous.
There is little doubt to me that nearly all my regulars are Farang spec girls and these girls prefer farangs as well. Maybe one or two of my regulars could attract guys from any nationality at all. My Lao girl has quite light skin and quite pretty face (but no surgeries) so I think Asian guys could like her, if they go for slim. I first saw her sitting outside an MP, and was pretty enough to be a "must do" for me. Very non-typical of the the general girls in the MPs.
Clearly there are girls that prefer Farangs and girls that clearly like Japanese, Koreans, etc. So we have to try to discern it one way or another. Plenty of girls will admit to me that hardly any Asian guys would choose them. They have to be least very used to Farangs. So I say, a girl with very low Farang experience, is a huge risk for me..Have been with 18 yo Bangkok hookers that said they've never been with a white guy before!
I love Bangkok, I can't wait to return in a few weeks.
Don't worry too much. Many Farang expats like to put down Indians, and this board reflects that. To be honest, unlike 10-20 years ago, we Farang are no longer quite at top of the ladder in Thailand, bit salty about it, and looking for someone to put downI hate to be next to Farangs, who won't sit down, jumping around partying right in front or next to me (possibly drunk), or with seriously potent under arm stench. Same for Indians, Arabs, Afrikans, whatever. So it is not a question of where they come from at all. It is the individual regardless of origin. We hear that Indians, generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price, and for a being a problem in the bar, perhaps denying they they consumed the drinks listed, etc. A girl on Soi 4 has asking price 1300. She tells me Indians are trying to get 500 Baht or less. She is not interested to even talk to them. These things are really totally irrelevant to me, other than I asked how come she knocks many guys. I don't have to negotiate prices with Indians for anything.
There is no put down for Indians, I have worked with some great character Indians used to western ways, at least in the work environment. I did think it was funny at one computing site in Europe, that maybe 90% of the Indians (males) had mustaches but not beards. Seemed to be a level of conformity. However I noticed that tourists groups from Italy or Spain, young local Turkish guys, etc. also had a very high level of conformity in haircuts and beards. I guess guys have to follow the fashions. Not me though.
Those Taxi mafia bastards want 200 baht for the ride. It was same yesterday from Nana plaza he wanted 100 baht. Again not to cause a scene I paid 200 baht. What do you guys do with these Taxi mafia? Do you just go to the sort time hotel or you just pay them what ever those bastards ask.
Simple rule. Never talk to those taxi guys waiting at the end of Soi Cowboy. If I want a taxi, I always hail one driving past. You will get a meter or a better deal. Parked taxis on Sukhumwvit road near to Soi 23 are okay As long as driver does not get out of the vehicle.
Any guys that approaches you is to be avoided. That is the golden rule. We approach them when we want something.
I don't pay bargirls up front, but that is because I am scared they won't go through with the deal to fuck. Had a recent occurrence of that. Still wasted the barfine, drinks and her french fries. I don't pay to enter Crazy House because I am known there. The mamasans know me too so would not ask me to pay upfront. It is known I am trustworthy. Dare I say that some nationalities in particular may have a reputation for not paying the girl after the deed is done, in a percentage of cases. There are guys looking for a freebie, and claim not to have money afterwards. Girls I know have been burned too many times.
CzarNicholas
05-03-19, 06:55
I hate to be next to Farangs, who won't sit down, jumping around partying right in front or next to me (possibly drunk), or with seriously potent under arm stench. Same for Indians, Arabs, Afrikans, whatever. So it is not a question of where they come from at all. It is the individual regardless of origin. We hear that Indians, generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price, and for a being a problem in the bar, perhaps denying they they consumed the drinks listed, etc. A girl on Soi 4 has asking price 1300. She tells me Indians are trying to get 500 Baht or less. She is not interested to even talk to them. These things are really totally irrelevant to me, other than I asked how come she knocks many guys. I don't have to negotiate prices with Indians for anything.
There is no put down for Indians, I have worked with some great character Indians used to western ways, at least in the work environment. I did think it was funny at one computing site in Europe, that maybe 90% of the Indians (males) had mustaches but not beards. Seemed to be a level of conformity. However I noticed that tourists groups from Italy or Spain, young local Turkish guys, etc. Also had a very high level of conformity in haircuts and beards. I guess guys have to follow the fashions. Not me though.
Generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price?
Seriously?
So mongers should agree to any asking price?
Is metoo# penetrating the forums.
I'm sure feminists would agree with this sentiment? Show of hands please how many feminists, do we have on this thread?
And BTW always wear a full body condom!
A girl tells me 2000 I think OK lets counter offer 500.
She can say any number why can't I.
Reminds me of Kojak in Manila last month.
I asked Amy the mamasan the prices.
She said 4000 BF 6000 minimum tip for the girl, I started laughing.
Standing up 2 leave.
And she added if you don't buy drinks we add them to the BF.
I continued to laugh as I stood up and walked out.
What kind of fools fall for that, she can go higher but you can't go lower.
I have a better idea, you suck my dick and pay me!
Realmenneveroverpay#.
CzarNicholas
05-03-19, 10:18
I broke my phone.
I have another phone.
I really need to get my contact list.
I don't remember using an email address at setup.
I'm using a google fi sim.
I really need my contact list.
There isn't anyway to chat with LINE.
I can't figure this out.
Ill pay for a massage on soi 4 in a couple of weeks if anyone can help me retrieve my contact list.
Many thanks.
Simple rule. Never talk to those taxi guys waiting at the end of Soi Cowboy. If I want a taxi, I always hail one driving past. You will get a meter or a better deal. Parked taxis on Sukhumwvit road near to Soi 23 are okay As long as driver does not get out of the vehicle.
Any guys that approaches you is to be avoided. That is the golden rule. We approach them when we want something.
I don't pay bargirls up front, but that is because I am scared they won't go through with the deal to fuck. Had a recent occurrence of that. Still wasted the barfine, drinks and her french fries. I don't pay to enter Crazy House because I am known there. The mamasans know me too so would not ask me to pay upfront. It is known I am trustworthy. Dare I say that some nationalities in particular may have a reputation for not paying the girl after the deed is done, in a percentage of cases. There are guys looking for a freebie, and claim not to have money afterwards. Girls I know have been burned too many times.Also those taxis driving past soi 4 often especially late at night ask for a fixed price. I asked a few in thai language and asked them to use meter but they responded that they can't. The girl with me told me that I should tell them that I call police if they refuse meter. But this is Thailand. Maybe better just walk to Sukh Road but of course there are these cheater taxis too. In Manila some taxis waiting close to malls don't even have a meter installed in the car. I guess that must be illegal but maybe calling the corrupt police in these Asian countries might not work.
What are the best (or only) options for seeing girls dancing all nude in Soi Cowboy / Nana / Patpong these days? I know Crazy House is one but it was last time almost filled with Japs smoking on the first row and impossible to find a good seat. Or maybe I should just go there earlier? I used to like Suzie Wong and talk nicely to their ladyboy mamasan about girls but it was years ago and now that palce has probably changed too. Maybe in Nana there is something nude going but I have never liked Nana vibe. Always too many ladyboys there and expensive average looking bikini girls but maybe some unknown small bars around there?
HorseTrader
05-03-19, 22:04
I broke my phone.
I have another phone.
I really need to get my contact list.
I don't remember using an email address at setup.
I'm using a google fi sim.
I really need my contact list.
There isn't anyway to chat with LINE.
I can't figure this out.
Ill pay for a massage on soi 4 in a couple of weeks if anyone can help me retrieve my contact list.
Many thanks.Take a look at this link:
https://help.line.me/line/ios/categoryId/20000012/pc?lang=en
Then search on "lost phone"
CzarNicholas
05-03-19, 23:59
Take a look at this link:Many thanks.
I emailed them.
They told me I'm shit out of luck.
I hate to be next to Farangs, who won't sit down, jumping around partying right in front or next to me (possibly drunk), or with seriously potent under arm stench. Same for Indians, Arabs, Afrikans, whatever. So it is not a question of where they come from at all. It is the individual regardless of origin. We hear that Indians, generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price, and for a being a problem in the bar, perhaps denying they they consumed the drinks listed, etc. A girl on Soi 4 has asking price 1300. She tells me Indians are trying to get 500 Baht or less. She is not interested to even talk to them. These things are really totally irrelevant to me, other than I asked how come she knocks many guys. I don't have to negotiate prices with Indians for anything.
There is no put down for Indians, I have worked with some great character Indians used to western ways, at least in the work environment. I did think it was funny at one computing site in Europe, that maybe 90% of the Indians (males) had mustaches but not beards. Seemed to be a level of conformity. However I noticed that tourists groups from Italy or Spain, young local Turkish guys, etc. Also had a very high level of conformity in haircuts and beards. I guess guys have to follow the fashions. Not me though.
Generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price?
Seriously?
So mongers should agree to any asking price?
Is metoo# penetrating the forums.
I'm sure feminists would agree with this sentiment? Show of hands please how many feminists, do we have on this thread?
And BTW always wear a full body condom!
A girl tells me 2000 I think OK lets counter offer 500.
She can say any number why can't I.
Reminds me of Kojak in Manila last month.
I asked Amy the mamasan the prices.
She said 4000 BF 6000 minimum tip for the girl, I started laughing.
Standing up 2 leave.
And she added if you don't buy drinks we add them to the BF.
I continued to laugh as I stood up and walked out.
What kind of fools fall for that, she can go higher but you can't go lower.
I have a better idea, you suck my dick and pay me!
Realmenneveroverpay#.Good report Nik.
Here are my 2 cents. I'm Indian myself and unfortunately notice lots of Indians acting little irresponsibly, but so does I see people from other nationality. But because of 1. 3 be population, it's easier to get highlighted. Won't go too deep into it, every person's actions are their own responsibility, and if someone can spend enough and can behave well, there is no shortage of good pussy. Yes, you might not be allowed in some specific bar, but that's not end of the world. I get great chicks every week, but also get rejected by some just because I am brown. But does it stop me from finding it hotter chick than her, hell no.
Regarding, price negotiation, we should negotiate it if price thrown is unrealistic, but some people try to negotiate it even on base line charges, and sometimes try too hard. That is off-putting. For those people, just freaking make more money. If girl is hot enough I have no problem paying 3. 5 k for st and 5 k for LT, plus tip. But if girl if so so, I know she most of times get around 1. 5 to 2 k, so I just counter it, and they always accept instantly.
Trick is knowing who you're negotiating with.
CzarNicholas
05-04-19, 06:12
Good report Nik.
Here are my 2 cents. I'm Indian myself and unfortunately notice lots of Indians acting little irresponsibly, but so does I see people from other nationality. But because of 1. 3 be population, it's easier to get highlighted. Won't go too deep into it, every person's actions are their own responsibility, and if someone can spend enough and can behave well, there is no shortage of good pussy. Yes, you might not be allowed in some specific bar, but that's not end of the world. I get great chicks every week, but also get rejected by some just because I am brown. But does it stop me from finding it hotter chick than her, hell no..I get rejected 24/7 because I'm super white lmao.
Blonde hair blue eyes and big dick.
I think certain guys try to "win" by overpaying more than market price (my response is to say fuck you and only pay less).
They don't "win" shit except title and reputation as desperate men that will pay any price for any service.
And they destroy the economics of the whole system.
Quintessential Pyrrhic victory!
In FKKland European men see it as a competition.
Men vs the WGs.
Outsiders come in and fuck that all up.
They want to overpay and turn it into a competition, monger vs monger.
Their pay any price mentality vs the local guys mentality which have kept the price the same for 20-30 yrs.
This is the definition of stupidity.
They will come in, destroy a system and claim "Victory".
This can be seen in Angeles city also.
Tijuana also.
The hookers and brothel owners win.
Mongers lose all day long.
3500 plus drinks.
For a 3rd world hooker.
In Angeles is retarded.
That's a months pay for the avg worker here.
I have a question? Does anyone think a months pay is not too much?
Banana Boi
05-04-19, 06:55
If girl is hot enough I have no problem paying 3. 5 k for st and 5 k for LT, plus tip. But if girl if so so, I know she most of times get around 1. 5 to 2 k, so I just counter it, and they always accept instantly. Trick is knowing who you're negotiating with.This is the right answer imo. If you are talking about a top girl who is barfined on every single night then yes she can demand top dollar but if it's a gogo or bar girl who is average looking and lucky to be barfined once or twice a week we all should be negotiating. It's our money and we have the power. 2 k is a lot to some girls and not to others who can make 2 k by just sitting in a bar ordering lady drinks all night.
Franciscass
05-04-19, 07:56
I broke my phone.
I have another phone.
I really need to get my contact list.
I don't remember using an email address at setup.
I'm using a google fi sim.
I really need my contact list.
There isn't anyway to chat with LINE.
I can't figure this out.
Ill pay for a massage on soi 4 in a couple of weeks if anyone can help me retrieve my contact list.
Many thanks.If your sim card is not damaged check it on your replacement it may have your contacts stored, if its damaged depending on your supplier you may be able to replace it.
This is the right answer imo. If you are talking about a top girl who is barfined on every single night then yes she can demand top dollar but if it's a gogo or bar girl who is average looking and lucky to be barfined once or twice a week we all should be negotiating. It's our money and we have the power. 2 k is a lot to some girls and not to others who can make 2 k by just sitting in a bar ordering lady drinks all night.Last night took a bargirl LT, from 5 Star (Cowboy), a tan skinned Isaan girl, all natural other than makeup, doubtless not your taste, but okay For many Farang Expats. Cute for me. Moderately tall, very nice ass and pussy. Very good waist (small) to thigh ratio making very her curvy. However there was no price negotiation, nor was there for previous bookings ST. This is good for me, since allows me to pay what I think the girl was worth, allowing for attitude, enthusiasm, Cooperation levels. This is usually is possible in bars where well known by certain girls, or when not appearing stingy to buy the girl drinks.
Once the girl likes the customer, that is a big help. I am not really trying to negotiate to bottom dollar the girl will take, I pay more related to effort and performance, with stunners clearly to get a premium price. If pay a girl fairly, they are always keen to repeat. If pay too low to suit how hard she had to work, she may pass next time. Trying to underpay stunners who can get customers very easily, probably does not work.
CzarNicholas
05-04-19, 09:26
Last night took a bargirl LT, from 5 Star (Cowboy), a tan skinned Isaan girl, all natural other than makeup, doubtless not your taste, but okay For many Farang Expats. Cute for me. Moderately tall, very nice ass and pussy. Very good waist (small) to thigh ratio making very her curvy. However there was no price negotiation, nor was there for previous bookings ST. This is good for me, since allows me to pay what I think the girl was worth, allowing for attitude, enthusiasm, Cooperation levels. This is usually is possible in bars where well known by certain girls, or when not appearing stingy to buy the girl drinks.
Once the girl likes the customer, that is a big help. I am not really trying to negotiate to bottom dollar the girl will take, I pay more related to effort and performance, with stunners clearly to get a premium price. If pay a girl fairly, they are always keen to repeat. If pay too low to suit how hard she had to work, she may pass next time. Trying to underpay stunners who can get customers very easily, probably does not work.What kind of service? Any full body condoms? How many hours? Pops?
What was her age?
How many babies?
Did you tip also.
I think your age is helpful and the WGs age.
Because I think its relevant.
Lets be honest, I'll be 52 soon.
If I'm drilling a 18 yo with no babies BBFS / pse.
That can affect what I will pay.
Compared to what I would pay if I was still 18 yo.
Funny story, I do use Viagra and Cialis.
But a 18 yo WG walked in my place and saw some blue alleve pills on the counter and says you use Viagra.
I said those are for headaches.
I wanted to say.
Yes I do, because I'm old enough to be your grandfather, as a matter of fact I'm probably older than your grandfather LOL (that is if he is even still alive) I'm guessing the life expectancy isn't very high in Angeles city.
OrientalLover
05-04-19, 09:26
Today Wednesday went to NANA plaza. Looked at few of the bars finally settled into Billboard.Last night went to Billboard again. Could not find #28 selected another girl from the bathtub. She was almost good as mai but not quite.
Two for two interns of good time from Billboard ladies during this trip.
Have plan to see one of my regulars today an ex P4P girl. Back home tomorrow.
5 Star bar has had changes, since the take over by Crazy House. Initially it struggled badly and had useless Coyotes as well as standard Gogo girls. The Coyotes are now all gone to Tilac etc.
The bar is now somewhat like the old Sheba and old Suzie Wong. 15 to 20 naked girl dances, raunchy, all facing the audience so pussies on display, maybe a bit too much pussy hair on some. Some uglies, and some slim girls, mostly all natural. Girls naked on guys laps, getting groped. Pussy touching allowed. Catering to a mainly Farang Expat set of customers same as Suzie Wong was. Dtom ex Suzie Wong, works at 5 Star now. There maybe others. Some ex crazy House girls likely. Skinny LB mamasan used to be waitress at Crazy House. I forget the name.
Serving staff at 5 Star maybe a bit light on, on a busy night like Friday, just 2 or 3. At least 2 mamasans though.
However that is only part of the story. Out front they have Post Op (I'm told, did not check) lady boy hostesses. The LBs never get naked nor go on the stage. When Asian customers come into the shop, the LBs make a beeline for them. I don't see the LBs bothering the Farang Expats at all. Asian customers seem happy enough to play with the lady boys on their lap etc. Not clear if they all know they have LBs, as some are quite pretty. I guess they should know. The LBs make very exaggerated model posing movements not typical of real girls. So for Asian guys who don't like LBs, they would find this bar annoying maybe. The Farangs in there can easily ignore the LBs completely, no hassles. I don't know if many Asian guys BF the LB and go fuck an artificial pussy or take the ass or merely take BBBJ. Rates of barfining may not be that high in here. Many guys come in and drinks and fool around and that's it. I would not bother, if not wanting to take a girl, most likely.
Last night had two naked slim girls, both with small tits, friends of each other sitting with me. Waew and Jup Jaeng. Pussy touching was allowed, I did not try to get too nasty in the bar. Tempted to take both of them, but took Waew LT instead. Girls with bigger tits do exist there. Usually not the most important thing for me. Face, ass, pussy, legs and waist, and natural (non weird body shapes) all have higher priority than tits for me, and skin colour is very low priority. All my girls tend to have very smooth skin, since hairy arms puts me off.
Muslim girl in 7 Eleven served me today with Hijab head cover, light skin on face (with makeup), but her arms were more hairy than mine. I could not do a girl like that I think. Pussy Bush and thighs likely to be very hairy too. My Thai GF has extremely low body hair such that never notice it. Even her pussy has only wispy hair up top like a mustache. We get used to hookers with bald pussy and low body hair so it is not that sexy to be hairy for a girl.
There are no shows in 5 Star. That is a big departure from Suzie Wong style too. They used to have car alarm music, but I noticed the music includes actual pop songs these days, e. G. Titanium (by Sia), just to name one I remember now, so that is a big improvement for me. Probably means they changed the DJ.
So I am basically recommending this bar for Expat guys who used to like Suzie Wong and Sheba, and don't mind a few LBs hanging around. One can ignore the LBs entirely. Have not checked out Kozy upstairs at Old Dutch affiliated with Crazy H, as yet. Last visit to Crazy House saw 2 or 3 girls I would rate as doable, meaning the vast majority were not of interest to me, due to either plain faces or too much surgeries, for the most part. Maybe I prefer the smaller more intimate 5 Star now as is catering specifically for Farangs, where Crazy House tries to cater for every nationality of customer. Can't say that 5 Star has any absolute stunners though (used to have one), where you can't take your eyes off them. Same like Suzie W had a shortage of stunners also, but some very nice girls.
Although Suzie Wong is still open, I don't go there any more. Did not like the new management sent in by Bacarra. The drunk mamasan with mohawk was too much to bear. Almost all the old Suzie girls could not stand it and left too. Lighthouse sister bar to Shark maybe okay Did not check it recently. Doll House may have some nice girls, it has always been changing a lot.
CzarNicholas
05-05-19, 01:38
If your sim card is not damaged check it on your replacement it may have your contacts stored, if its damaged depending on your supplier you may be able to replace it.Any ideas how to check?
My sim card is OK.
Robert Long
05-05-19, 01:46
Started out at Lighthouse which had some real nice ladies. This was around 9:00. Had a few beers and decided to go to CH. What a disappointment. I only saw a few nice ladies, maybe the best were BF by then around 10:00. The best I saw was 117.
The tattooed lady with the long blond hair was doing her thing on stage. Piercings and tats everywhere. Where's her broom stick? I guess they cut the dart show and the painted dancers. But 95% of the ladies were not good by my standards.
Soi Cowboy was packed and the coyotes were aggressive. They target the Asian guys like fly's on shit. As an aging white guy they don't bother me at all. I get a couple of hits but as a rule I'm invisible.
Back home tomorrow for a relaxing vacation before I return to my condo in Phuket. Aloha.
RL.
Franciscass
05-05-19, 04:03
Any ideas how to check?
My sim card is OK.Insert in replacement phone, download line and what's app and any other contact based app you had on your damaged phone and click on contacts and see what is stored on your card or within the app itself. If you backed up your data on to the cloud you can access that from any device.
The tattooed lady with the long blond hair was doing her thing on stage. Piercings and tats everywhere. Where's her broom stick? I guess they cut the dart show and the painted dancers. But 95% of the ladies were not good by my standards.
Smoothy tells us that Ice is a really good fuck and raunchy as you could see. I called her "Geronimo" with all her war paint. Her somewhat masculine jaw makes her look just a bit too much like a ladyboy for me, and too many piercings I think, however real pussy is on display.
I agree with not many ladies doable, but why not count how many were okay and concentrate on the those. I saw two or 3 okay Looking girls last visit on a busy night (the line up has ups and downs), and largely ignored the rest. I reckon is best to go at 9 PM and see the last of the better girls arriving (applys to any bar), so you were at Lighthouse at the right time. CH is not my favourite bar any more. Just too few girls with both good face and good body. The line up was considerably better years ago. You might find 5 Star is worth a try (high percentage of all natural girls but no stunners), or Doll House.
What kind of service? Any full body condoms? How many hours? Pops?
What was her age?
How many babies?
Did you tip also.
I think your age is helpful and the WGs age.
Because I think its relevant.
Lets be honest, I'll be 52 soon.
If I'm drilling a 18 yo with no babies BBFS / pse.
That can affect what I will pay.
Compared to what I would pay if I was still 18 yo.
Funny story, I do use Viagra and Cialis.
But a 18 yo WG walked in my place and saw some blue alleve pills on the counter and says you use Viagra.
I said those are for headaches.
I wanted to say.
Yes I do, because I'm old enough to be your grandfather, as a matter of fact I'm probably older than your grandfather LOL (that is if he is even still alive) I'm guessing the life expectancy isn't very high in Angeles city.I have to assume these are rhetorical questions, or you were very drunk at the time, or just trolling. Is that supposed to be satire?
Member #4698
05-05-19, 05:52
Cowboy, oh boy. I am not impressed with what was once my favorite soi in BKK. So far I have visited Baccara twice and found no one worthy of a barfine although I did buy a drink for a cute girl with green braces, but overall I am disappointed in the current talent level in this bar.
Dollhouse has a couple of sexy girls on the ground floor, but it pales as a bar in comparison to my fav bars in Patpong and Nana. I tried to go to Crazy Cozy one night. It looked dead from the outside yet the doorman insisted on my buying a drink first. I walked away. This bar is dead to me. And that is about it. I have not gone to Shark this trip. I have avoided Crazy House as I still have 3 ex favorite girls in there that I used to see a lot of, but for various reasons have decided not to see anymore.
And I have not checked out 5 star since October when it failed to impress, but since my pal Syzygies kind of likes it I will have to check it out one more or one last time depending. Ha Ha.
Overall however, I have to give Cowboy May 2019 a one thumb's down rating. How the mighty have fallen. Currently Nana and Patpong are just so much better and more fun.
P.S. Yesterday was one of my best days in the past year. First my Atomic Blond flew back into town to spend the day with me before she embarks on her summer tour of Korea & Japan. We did not leave my hotel room from 9am to 5pm except to hang by the pool for a little while. Then later around 9pm I met up for the 2nd time with a new favorite from RB2 and we had another very good time building on the first. So, two Thai girls, very different in looks, personality, and sexual proclivities and yet both so wonderful and entertaining. It does not get much better than this. I think I love them both!
Banana Boi
05-05-19, 05:55
Overall however, I have to give Cowboy May 2019 a one thumb's down rating. How the mighty have fallen. Currently Nana and Patpong are just so much better and more fun.How do you compare the current BKK gogo girls with the Pattaya ones on your recent visit?
I prefer Patpong and Nana too over Cowboy. TBH I have stopped going to Cowboy for some time now. Baccara can be ok but too crowded and terrible layout, but my main peeve is that the girls do not rotate on stage.
Member #4698
05-05-19, 06:16
How do you compare the current BKK gogo girls with the Pattaya ones on your recent visit?
I prefer Patpong and Nana too over Cowboy. TBH I have stopped going to Cowboy for some time now. Baccara can be ok but too crowded and terrible layout, but my main peeve is that the girls do not rotate on stage.Great question BB. As you might remember, I was very impressed with the Pattaya girls that I met up with last October. So much so that I am planning to go back down there very soon. One girl in particular made it to my top 5 list last year and I am going straight to her as soon as I arrive. Ha Ha.
Look, I think there are great girls in BKK in a few Go Go's like KC 1, KC2, Pink (maybe), RB2, RB4, Billboard, maybe even still a few left in Twister. I also think there are some great girls in Pattaya in a few Go Go's like Infinity (where my top 5 works), Sensations, Sapphire, What's up, and Tantra (you told me about that one. Thanks), Skyfall and I am sure I am missing a couple of others.
My point is Pattaya does not take a back seat to BKK as far as Go Go's are concerned. I prefer BKK mainly for other reasons like more diversity and more anonymity that goes with being in a big cosmopolitan city, and better restaurants. But I am really looking forward to my upcoming long weekend in Pat. It is going to be great!
Banana Boi
05-05-19, 07:04
Tantra (you told me about that one. Thanks), FYI Tantra is not what it was when you were last here. New bar named Pin Up opened up and many of the better girls from Tantra moved their with mamasan. I was in Infinity the other night and it was terrible. I still go only to visit one of my friends there.
Agree Pattaya is a smelly sheethole with crappy food for the most part compared to Bangkok. I put up with a lot to be able to go to Walking Street and LK Metro every night and budget conscious Soi 6 and the G Clubs during the day. If I wanted good food and a nice environment to live in Asia I'd be living in Singapore, Seoul, or Dotonbori in Japan,. Unfortunately hobbying is expensive or just suck in those countries.
Houston Player
05-05-19, 08:19
This week I decided to check out some Cowboy bars based on current reports. I usually start at Baccara third floor before the dancers move up there and they turn up the music. I enjoy a couple of quiet drinks to start off the night with some longtime lady friends. Then I went to Kazy Kozy and found 3 girls that I would barfine, numbers 007 and 121 sorry I don't remember the third. I bought 007 some drinks and she was full contact. I wasn't going to barfine because I wanted to checkout the other bars. So I didn't fondle her too much. LOL.
I then went to 5 star and Light House both were a total disappointment to me as there was no one that I would barfine. I know timing means a lot but the best girl when I was in Light House was at least 35 and probably older. I don't barfine 35 year olds. I did buy her a drink so I could spend enough time to sit through the rotations. I had 2 drinks and the lady ordered a beer. I don't remember what my bill was but it seemed reasonable to me not expensive. In 5 Star I didn't buy a drink, hell I didn't even sit down there was nothing on stage that I wanted to sit with and I didn't want to waste anymore time.
I went back to Kazy Kozy and both 007 and 121 were gone already barfined. I decided to text one of my regulars and had her meet me at my condo.
I trust the taste of the other posters reports about Light House and 5 Star but I'm assuming that there are so few girls to my liking in these 2 bars that timing would be critical to me finding girl that I liked there.
Dollhouse used to be my favorite in Cowboy but a few of the better girls (IMO) have recently left so I can't recommend it right now but I did see a cute new girl dancing outside when I walked by the other night.
CzarNicholas
05-05-19, 08:39
I have to assume these are rhetorical questions, or you were very drunk at the time, or just trolling. Is that supposed to be satire?Your post was so vague, mentioning high low prices but no numbers.
I don't drink or troll so while some rhetorical points were made.
I was asking for some clarity, what did you pay? Then large tip?
What kinda service was given for said baht? IE no kissing CBJ?
The comments about age are non-satirical.
I wish ISG required some type of video bio.
Member #4698
05-05-19, 08:52
FYI Tantra is not what it was when you were last here. New bar named Pin Up opened up and many of the better girls from Tantra moved their with mamasan. I was in Infinity the other night and it was terrible. I still go only to visit one of my friends there.
Pin Up: Good to know. Thanks.
Then I went to Kazy Kozy and found 3 girls that I would barfine, numbers 007 and 121 sorry I don't remember the third. I bought 007 some drinks and she was full contact. I wasn't going to barfine because I wanted to checkout the other bars. So I didn't fondle her too much. LOL.
So were you at Kazy or at Kozy? Kazy is the downstairs bar and Kozy is the upstairs bar. Different management apparently from what I was told by the staff, and possibly totally different styles. Kozy upstairs was reported to try to attract Asian customers like upstairs at Penny Black.
Yes good to try a few bars to find your style as long as not too late, especially on a Saturday.
Dollhouse used be one of my favourites (when they danced nude), despite a bad mamasan for a while, replaced by a really nice mamasan for a while. I liked little Coyote Aor who was very pretty except that she was dick scared with such a small pussy. My favourite girl Noi had an ass to die for and small tits. Hey she could have been 35 (maybe only late 20's), but no baby, so I did not care. Tight pussy. Eventually she moved to Nana (Mercury for a while) and finally got a tit job, and changed to work on travel desk of a Hotel "Holiday Inn" I think, after acquiring a BF. I lost contact strangely and very suddenly last time I intended to meet her for a drink, despite her saying she had split with BF. I had to wonder if she lost her phone, fell in the toilet, or was stolen, or if angry BF was still around. Ex Dollhouse girls Chocolate and Phraaow now work at Crazy House, but I can't recommend either of them. Chocolate has a bad tit job, and baby and a Thai boy, these days. Likes to customer hop a lot. Very crappy girl.
How do you compare the current BKK gogo girls with the Pattaya ones on your recent visit?
I prefer Patpong and Nana too over Cowboy. TBH I have stopped going to Cowboy for some time now. Baccara can be ok but too crowded and terrible layout, but my main peeve is that the girls do not rotate on stage.Bacarra is absolutely hopeless for layout and how crowded is the stage, and how girls are not moving around to different spots on the stage, if a fussy guy like me. Just too hard to see all the girls, and hence find which are the better ones.
Once they bought Suzie Wong, they should have made it Bacarra 2 effectively and moved some girls there, perhaps the more natural looking ones, more to Farang spec, or perhaps just the uglier ones. For guys who used to like Suzie Wong as a bar, it died anyway.
Still I suppose they don't want to mess with their successful formula, not matter some of us think it is stupid to have stage so crowded so a seated guys can only see a few girls at the front. I get totally mystified when a Jap guy calls over the most ugly overdone surgeries girl in place. Does ugly face (originally) + surgeries = beauty? Not for me. Just looks freaky. There are some good looking girls with great bodies but too hard to see them and get to them for a Farang. Last time met a stunner in there and approached, she would not answer me or look at my face. Must have been scared I would try to BF her. I would have scored her face an 8 and below the waist she was a 10 (ass, thighs, curves, etc.) I can't remember the tits at all now but I guess were natural. I was not her young handsome target (who was a Farang ha ha). I probably left disgruntled after not being able to find any other to her standard (and so natural looking).
Houston Player
05-05-19, 11:34
So were you at Kazy or at Kozy? Kazy is the downstairs bar and Kozy is the upstairs bar. Different management apparently from what I was told by the staff, and possibly totally different styles.I much prefer the downstairs bar Kazy I only went upstairs once or twice and that was when it first opened. I just like downstairs better.
Blanquiceleste
05-05-19, 15:49
Great question BB. As you might remember, I was very impressed with the Pattaya girls that I met up with last October. So much so that I am planning to go back down there very soon. One girl in particular made it to my top 5 list last year and I am going straight to her as soon as I arrive. Ha Ha.
Look, I think there are great girls in BKK in a few Go Go's like KC 1, KC2, Pink (maybe), RB2, RB4, Billboard, maybe even still a few left in Twister. I also think there are some great girls in Pattaya in a few Go Go's like Infinity (where my top 5 works), Sensations, Sapphire, What's up, and Tantra (you told me about that one. Thanks), Skyfall and I am sure I am missing a couple of others.
My point is Pattaya does not take a back seat to BKK as far as Go Go's are concerned. I prefer BKK mainly for other reasons like more diversity and more anonymity that goes with being in a big cosmopolitan city, and better restaurants. But I am really looking forward to my upcoming long weekend in Pat. It is going to be great!Make sure you hit Palace and Panda.
Banana Boi
05-05-19, 15:54
Make sure you hit Palace and Panda.Hopefully I won't be on one of my many Visa runs when Natty comes next time and I will be able to take him to what's hot for that week. Panda for me has been quite weak these past 2 weeks but my ex-Sapphire girl is there so 'm forced to go often. Ebbs and flows of the consistency of a Pattaya gogo bar.
I much prefer the downstairs bar Kazy I only went upstairs once or twice and that was when it first opened. I just like downstairs better.Its time to correct misinformation I was fed by apparent older female staff before. Why they had to tell me bullshit, I don't know.
Kazy is the downstairs. It is the new Crazy House, somewhat similar to crazy House when it first opened, although line up not quite that good. Upstairs is called Kozy but not open yet, due to downstairs not full. Presumably it will open when gets busy enough. So both bars belong to Crazy House.
Kazy is getting better, more girls than when first opened, and more customers. Farangs are out numbering the Asian customers, that maybe because there are not that many surgeries girls. A couple of pairs of exaggerated knockers, and odd nose job or two. For me Kazy is already better than Crazy House is now, although aircon a bit cold, and shows come on a bit too often. I hate shows. The lesbian show was acceptable and included one girl getting fucked by a strap on. The best skinny girl was Pim ex Crazy house, doing the flower show, and she got barfined real quick by an Asian guy. About 50% of girls dance nude, the rest in bikini.
I think Houston mentioned number 007. Great natural body on that one, almost identical to how my girlfriend looked when I first met her, except my GF had a cuter real nose, and face a bit different, and waist to thigh ratio slightly more. I would take 007 for the body any time but face not quite right for me, a bit too pointy / witchy (not ugly though). I arrived bit late maybe 10 PM or so. Some great girls possibly gone already. A slight shortage of really slim girls. Eventually I called over 115 for a drink. Light skin from Nakhon Nayok, only 50 km or so out of Bangkok I think. Quite slim and pretty to my taste nose slightly too broad but natural. She wasn't one of the nude girls. A bit shy. Working just 1 month. Could be a risk to BF her. So inexperienced. Previously worked in a Coffee shop. Not enough to finance her younger siblings education. Seemed nice enough. May do her one day if she lasts.
I was pulled into Kazy off the street by Aem who was once service staff S01 at Crazy House. Short with big tits. Have known her 5 years at least. So she could give the lowdown with no bullshit this time.
Now I hear there are 2 bafine amounts. 850 for ST, and 1200 for LT. So we pay more when the girl won't be coming back to the bar. I am guessing they close at 2. 30 am. I think I saw flower show girl return to the bar after having gone ST. Could not be sure when had clothes on. Did not discern any tiers with the girls. There are no Coyotes.
Kazy has girls jiggling on customers laps and Guys were massaging the tits, e. G. Of 007. I did not see pussy groping so I would describe sister bar 5 Star as more raunchy.
The drinks are all listed on a single page so not like Crazy House. You are requested to sign but that is before the latest drinks order is added to the bill, so that is slightly confusing. Watch out. If the girl has alcohol and mixed with coke or similar they are counting that as two drinks, however normally if a girl is granted two drinks when she requests it, then it will be tequila and coke in separate glasses. I think lady drinks were 190 each. There are other more expensive bars for lady drinks, some 200 and some even 250.
So I probably won't bother to visit Crazy House any longer. Kazy is already better and not yet crowded. Maybe 3 slim doable girls for me. Not quite enough slim ones. Guys who like surgeries, can still find something in Kazy but not many. For any guys who tried Crazy House when it first started, then Kazy lineup is not that good, a bit more variable. Crazy House in the beginning had virtually nothing but girls with top bodies. No ladyboys boys at Kazy other than some gay service staff. Could be that nearly all male staff were gay, other than perhaps the DJ, and artist doing body painting show. I don't like them having frequent shows, but show girls are better than Crazy House show girls.
For guys who used to prefer Suzie Wong over Crazy House, then I think your goto bar is 5 Star. I saw about 3 doable girls in there for my taste. Definitely Isaan looks, but more slim girls than Kazy. 5 star also has more quite ugly girls too, but I never really take much interest in all the girls other than the best 3 to 5 girls.
In 5 star, I saw one bargirl light up a cigarette. That surprised me. Did not think they would allow it. Did not see that at Kazy.
Member #4698
05-06-19, 06:33
Ok, so I have been having great time in BKK these last 2 weeks and last night was no exception. The night first began with a repeat session with a bubbly Billboard tub girl with large silicon tits and crazy tats all over her body. A very atypical girl for me, but she is a real sweetie and I thought she deserved a 2nd night. Anyway, back in my loom after a big photo shoot, we began to get it on first in cowgirl, then mish where she put a pillow under her ass for better leverage, and finally in doggie. She is apparently a big doggie fan and I think her butt may have been augmented as well. LOL. So there she was encouraging me to really drive it home from behind when all of a sudden my Sagami 0. 02 broke. Oops, a no biggie for me, but "Cee" knew instantly what had happened and she insisted on a time out and a replacement. I had no choice in the matter. But I still think it was a fun session and we parted on very happy happy terms.
Then after I saw saw her off in a taxi I went out again. It was only around 11:30. But Cowboy was absolutely no good for me. I checked out 5 Star as I said I would and I feel a little insulted because the Ladyboy promo girls out front did not try to seduce me like they try to do to every passing NE Asian dude. What! Don't I rate. LOL. But then an older mamasan or something did try to escort me inside where and (I am trying to be kind) I did not see any girl girls on the stage to my liking, so I left without buying a drink.
Jeez, I find Cowboy really depressing these days. It has become so touristy with all the Arab's Buy Me Drink bars, and other bars like Crazy Cozy or whatever asking customers to buy a drink before entering. And I used to love Cowboy. But last night I spent less than 30 minutes there and could not wait to get away although I did get an interesting offer from one of the Arab's very sexy BMD girls standing outside one of his bars. So here is the offer that she made me:
This very sexy little girl grabs my arm and tries to drag me inside her bar. I say, "no baby, I can not go inside. " She says, " why?" I say, "I no like American BMD Go Go's. I like Thai barfine Go Go's. " She says, "you come inside and I take care of you" and to make her case she rubs my dick with her free hand. So I ask her, "why you work in this bar and not in a barfine bar". She says something that I don't quite hear and then she says, "You can come back here at 3 and I go your room. " And I think, finally I meet a sexy Cowboy BMD girl that is making some sense even although I wasn't in the mood to follow up on her offer, so we parted ways.
I then headed over to Thermae where I run into an old favorite Go Go girl that I had not seen for a while. My room was a mess so I bowed out of taking her home with me, but I might see her again at a later date. I also saw a few other possibilities while walking the Thermae lap, but for the same reason, the shape of my room, I decided to move on. I was getting a little hungry at this point too.
So then as I wandered back towards my hotel thinking of where I should go for some food, I took a small detour and walked past Queens Park Plaza on Soi 22 specifically past Rumors bar where I spotted an attractive over 30 hostess girl with thin arms and thighs, a flat butt, and a still girly, youthful face. I won't bore everybody with too many details (ha ha) of the ensuing romp, but the short story is that 3 Tequilas each later we were in a taxi making out like teenagers. Then back in the room it was a bareback non-stop session until almost 7 am which included 2 full length shags plus several mini shags towards the end with only one break in the action after the 1st shag where "K" fell asleep and I went to the refrigerator and ate some Durian. But after my savory dinner I went back to bed, the girl woke up, and she just would not stop and leave me alone. LOL. She kept saying, "ok now we sleep," but we never did. We just kept kissing and caressing each other until I got hard again and entered her pussy again and again. She was a very passionate and horny Thai girl and I had a great time with her.
Now I do admit that in the morning light with no makeup, an hour or two of sleep at most, and the 3 Tequilas shots still in her system, she looked a little worse for ware, but last night when I first saw her, smiling and dancing around her open bar, inher element, Damn, she had something. I swear it! I think it was that 35, but still girly look that only a few Thai women seem to retain. I bet she was really something when she was 22.
So, that was last night. Just another fun night out on the town although a bit atypical for me (both girls). Sorry if this post is a bit self absorbed. But I am still on a high from last night, so I just felt like posting.
CzarNicholas
05-06-19, 18:18
Ok, so I have been having great time in BKK these last 2 weeks and last night was no exception. The night first began with a repeat session with a bubbly Billboard tub girl with large silicon tits and crazy tats all over her body. A very atypical girl for me, but she is a real sweetie and I thought she deserved a 2nd night. Anyway, back in my loom after a big photo shoot, we began to get it on first in cowgirl, then mish where she put a pillow under her ass for better leverage, and finally in doggie. She is apparently a big doggie fan and I think her butt may have been augmented as well. LOL. So there she was encouraging me to really drive it home from behind when all of a sudden my Sagami 0. 02 broke. Oops, a no biggie for me, but "Cee" knew instantly what had happened and she insisted on a time out and a replacement. I had no choice in the matter. But I still think it was a fun session and we parted on very happy happy terms.
Then after I saw saw her off in a taxi I went out again. It was only around 11:30. But Cowboy was absolutely no good for me. I checked out 5 Star as I said I would and I feel a little insulted because the Ladyboy promo girls out front did not try to seduce me like they try to do to every passing NE Asian dude. What! Don't I rate. LOL. But then an older mamasan or something did try to escort me inside where and (I am trying to be kind) I did not see any girl girls on the stage to my liking, so I left without buying a drink.
Jeez, I find Cowboy really depressing these days. It has become so touristy with all the Arab's Buy Me Drink bars, and other bars like Crazy Cozy or whatever asking customers to buy a drink before entering. And I used to love Cowboy. But last night I spent less than 30 minutes there and could not wait to get away although I did get an interesting offer from one of the Arab's very sexy BMD girls standing outside one of his bars. So here is the offer that she made me:.I envy your memory of the details, ill be 52 this year and just did 2 sessions 2 day and.
I could not provide 10% of the detail you provided, keep up the nice work.
Member #4698
05-07-19, 03:08
Cute skinny deaf girl on Soi 4 refused me again today even as I approached. Then she showed me 1500 and 300 for Hotel on her phone. I nodded in approval. Yes no problem. Then she points to her friend, trying to FOB me on to another girl. I try to find where the problem is, and she types 18 on her phone. Not clear to me if she is 18 or not yet. However she seems to using her looks to pull guys over and then introduce them to the other deaf girls. Several of them there today. I will have to look another extended time to see if she ever goes with a guy or not. I will have my messages prepared on phone for next time.
During my last visit, I asked her she said 1200, I said OK and said my hotel was just behind let's go, she then proposed her friend or we go to a different hotel. I was in that area for few days and I saw her standing in the same place and I don't think she went with anyone.I saw this girl too one night last week. I can't remember the particular night, but I do remember that I had already gotten my dick wet only an hour or so earlier, so I really wasn't looking for another girl at that particular moment, but she looked attractive from across the soi in a certain raunchy. unkempt, thin T. Rex girl kind of way, so I went over to her side of the soi to say Hello,. That's when I realized she was the deaf girl you guys had been talking about.
Anyway, she must have thought I was in the market for pussy and before I could even begin a little "Hi how are you / what's your name" she started pawning me off onto her friend and I politely bowed out. It's too bad she is acting this way. I don't do SW's very often, but I have never had a deaf girl, so if she had been cordial and friendly I might have lined something up with her for another time. Oh well, her loss not mine. I would have made love to her.
"Well, you're dirty and sweet
Clad in black, don't look back, and I love you
You're dirty and sweet, oh yeah
Well, you're slim, and you're weak
You've got the teeth of the hydra upon you
You're dirty sweet, and you're my girl"
-Marc Bolan
Tiradentes
05-07-19, 04:18
Ops! Will arrive on Visakha Bucha day (Saturday 05/18 which would spillover to Tuesday 05/21). Are bars closed on these days? They just completed a three days -holiday today. Good to live in LOS. If so, would escape to the Philippines.
Ops! Will arrive on Visakha Bucha day (Saturday 05/18 which would spillover to Tuesday 05/21). Are bars closed on these days? They just completed a three days -holiday today. Good to live in LOS. If so, would escape to the Philippines.We are having some special days right now. Apr 5 was Coronation day (Rama 10), Apr 6 Chakri day (all the flag waving etc.), and Apr 9 is the royal plowing ceremony. This means Government officials get a lot of days off.
Yesterday there was a lot of confusion with the thai people as to which holiday it was. One told me the ploughing ceremony, and and another told me coronation day of Rama 10, and taxi driver told me Wishakha Bucha day (often spelled Visakha but there is no V sound in the Thai language so I spell it better how it sounds).
Wisakha Bucha day is 18 Apr and I expect bar closures are very definite, however it is a Saturday so officials will get their holiday day off on Mon 20 April in addition to not working Saturday of course. Bars should be open 20 April I think. They won't be affected by the Government officials day off.
The exact way bars close can be confusing. E. g. Might have to close at Midnight on 19 April, I am not sure, or maybe they get away with staying open a bit later. Might be able to open at midnight on 20 April as crosses into 21 April, but probably would not since closing time would be 2 AM for most bars. Not worth it to open for 2+ hours.
Some of us like bar girls a lot more than MP girls, mainly because we have exacting specs for the looks of the girls, like o see a great body hardly clothed, and like to interact for a while before choosing. However there are other options. MPs might be open. Girls on Soi 4 might be there, etc. It is alcohol that cannot be sold so bars cannot make money and is assumed if open would secretly sell alcohol. Actually entertainment is not really allowed as well as no alcohol, I believe. Hotels can still serve alcohol I think, but you can't buy it at the supermarket. I still get caught regularly trying to buy alcohol at non prescribed hours.
Wise to have some girl contacts that you can meet on bar closure days.
I saw this girl too one night last week. I can't remember the particular night, but I do remember that I had already gotten my dick wet only an hour or so earlier, so I really wasn't looking for another girl at that particular moment, but she looked attractive from across the soi in a certain raunchy. unkempt, thin T. Rex girl kind of way, so I went over to her side of the soi to say Hello,. That's when I realized she was the deaf girl you guys had been talking about.
My deaf girl of interest was quite skinny, very pretty face for me, actually stunning, but not unkempt that I noticed. I have no clue what you mean by T Rex (teeth?
As there are a bunch of deaf girls, it is hard to be sure we all talk about the same one. I have only seen her twice, so not there every day at all. Yet to see her take a guy, but she gets approached a lot I am sure. She is leagues in front of the other girls deaf or not, for looks in my opinion. I would be willing to pay well above the going rate for a good time with her. Hope she is at least 18 but not sure yet.
I have had Cuban girls with not a word of English (nor many words of the local Language German that I can recall) and I had no Spanish, yet a great time was had. Sign language only. I don't sign but very basic movements can show a meaning. So I don't see lack of hearing for her as a problem. She could type messages to me in English or Thai. She could probably lip read if I spoke to her, or I could type if necessary (wastes time though). Mouths should to be too busy to talk anyway.
Jeez, I find Cowboy really depressing these days. It has become so touristy with all the Arab's Buy Me Drink bars, and other bars like Crazy Cozy or whatever asking customers to buy a drink before entering. And I used to love Cowboy. But last night I spent less than 30 minutes there and could not wait to get away although I did get an interesting offer from one of the Arab's very sexy BMD girls standing outside one of his bars. So here is the offer that she made me:
Yes Cowboy has declined badly overall. Nana also has depressing bars, high pressure bars, LB bars. Mercury changed to a LB bar. DC9 is known as a rip off LB bar. The interesting bars in Nana are very limited for me. Billboard and? Not that many stunning faces in Billboard either. Mainly just good bodies.
So the factors for the Cowboy decline are: LB bars, LBs in bars not exclusively LB bars, Arab's bars, Coyotes with double layer bras so we can't tell if tits are good or bad and high BFs (mostly the Coyotes are fake Coyotes in that they don't even dance good. Many have BFs and don't fuck anyway), girls with too much surgeries and silly hair, finally fat and ugly girls (they have always been there). There still maybe the odd bar with some girls to interest the customer, but I agree it gets a lot harder to find the hot fun girls. I did find one really cute girl to my spec in Kazy. Did not risk to BF her. Guess will have to take the punt on her one day. Instead went to another bar for girl I already knew (easier no risk).
The whole gogo bar scene was declined badly, and prices gone up very fast. I can't really enjoy Long Gun like I used to in the early 2000's any more. My mongering declines badly in Sync with overall decline. I get disenchanted with it at times. However having regular girls remains my best bet. Have only acquired one new regular girl this year, and 1 last year. Must be I have declined and got much harder to please than before.
Yes Cowboy has declined badly overall. Nana also has depressing bars, high pressure bars, LB bars. Mercury changed to a LB bar. DC9 is known as a rip off LB bar. The interesting bars in Nana are very limited for me. Billboard and? Not that many stunning faces in Billboard either. Mainly just good bodies.
So the factors for the Cowboy decline are: LB bars, LBs in bars not exclusively LB bars, Arab's bars, Coyotes with double layer bras so we can't tell if tits are good or bad and high BFs (mostly the Coyotes are fake Coyotes in that they don't even dance good. Many have BFs and don't fuck anyway), girls with too much surgeries and silly hair, finally fat and ugly girls (they have always been there). There still maybe the odd bar with some girls to interest the customer, but I agree it gets a lot harder to find the hot fun girls. I did find one really cute girl to my spec in Kazy. Did not risk to BF her. Guess will have to take the punt on her one day. Instead went to another bar for girl I already knew (easier no risk).
The whole gogo bar scene was declined badly, and prices gone up very fast. I can't really enjoy Long Gun like I used to in the early 2000's any more. My mongering declines badly in Sync with overall decline. I get disenchanted with it at times. However having regular girls remains my best bet. Have only acquired one new regular girl this year, and 1 last year. Must be I have declined and got much harder to please than before.Haven't enjoyed GoGos in well over a decade. Once the Coyote / Agent mess started, it was a quick decline. Prices up and service down.
Member #4698
05-07-19, 09:31
My deaf girl of interest was quite skinny, very pretty face for me, actually stunning, but not unkempt that I noticed. I have no clue what you mean by T Rex (teeth?
I am sorry my literary allusion in reference to this girl did not ring a bell. The interesting point is that we both came to the same opinion about the girl: ie that she is damn sexy and that we both wanted to shag her.
T. Rex is a legendary British rock band. Marc Bolan wrote songs about pretty little girls with smudges on their faces, tarnished angels. Don't take what I wrote about her literally. She was very sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Q9sd_y4
CzarNicholas
05-07-19, 09:53
I am sorry my literary allusion in reference to this girl did not ring a bell. The interesting point is that we both came to the same opinion about the girl: ie that she is damn sexy and that we both wanted to shag her.
T. Rex is a legendary British rock band. Marc Bolan wrote songs about pretty little girls with smudges on their faces, tarnished angels. Don't take what I wrote about her literally. She was very sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Q9sd_y4.But I would love to do her.
If this is the same one that was out there, Dec. / Jan. / Feb. On and off, mostly off.
I did see several 30 something white guys taking her (never anything but well dressed fit guys).
On several occasions, I don't know what kinda deal they made, and no idea.
What if anything she delivered?
I will say she could be the prettiest hooker face in all of Asia LOL.
Wait for it LOL.
The stampede to find her!
Good luck.
I am sorry my literary allusion in reference to this girl did not ring a bell. The interesting point is that we both came to the same opinion about the girl: ie that she is damn sexy and that we both wanted to shag her.
T. Rex is a legendary British rock band. Marc Bolan wrote songs about pretty little girls with smudges on their faces, tarnished angels. Don't take what I wrote about her literally. She was very sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Q9sd_y4The various references to this girl make me very curious to experience, or at least see a pic.
Reminds me of the Neil Labute movie called In the Company of Men, two colleagues date a mute girl in a rather brutal competition. One says something like, 'I love fucking mutes, they're so grateful'.
I am sorry my literary allusion in reference to this girl did not ring a bell. The interesting point is that we both came to the same opinion about the girl: ie that she is damn sexy and that we both wanted to shag her.
T. Rex is a legendary British rock band. Marc Bolan wrote songs about pretty little girls with smudges on their faces, tarnished angels. Don't take what I wrote about her literally. She was very sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Q9sd_y4Thanks, I have heard the song "Get it on" naturally, and have heard of the band "T Rex". Not quite my style of rock. Never seen the video before that I can remember. So did not know of Marc Bolan. I have heard of "Dieter Bohlen" of German Duo: Modern Talking.
Possibly I was not paying a great deal to Rock music when that came out. Started paying more attention to Rock in the late 70's. Certainly did not analyse the words. Most lyrics were junky in those days, phrases repeated many times, so I cared little about them. The first time I was making money and able to buy albums, I got Fleetwood Mac "Rumours" and Electric Light Orchestra "A New World Record". A bit different style, with very big hits at the time.
E. g. The Chain (Fleetwood mac): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo.
I was also into New Age like Vangelis, with no lyrics. "Opera Sauvage" (and other albums). The Alan Parsons Project "I Robot" and of course Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells (again no lyrics needed). Here is a link in case some have never experienced something so strange for its time that led to success of Virgin records: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXvtDm820zI. That would have been one of my earliest albums. I nearly forgot got some Pink Floyd mid to late 70s.
Not exactly mainstream tastes, largely more musically sophisticated stuff after some classical training.
You can imagine that girls sending me Thai poetry turns me on even less. The meaning is often a bit hidden, and they have a different idea of metre and rhyming.
Blanquiceleste
05-07-19, 15:30
T. Rex is a legendary British rock band. Marc Bolan wrote songs about pretty little girls with smudges on their faces, tarnished angels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Q9sd_y4Dang! Did not know Elton John played the piano for T Rex.
Blanquiceleste
05-07-19, 15:34
Possibly I was not paying a great deal to Rock music when that came out. Started paying more attention to Rock in the late 70's. Certainly did not analyse the words. Most lyrics were junky in those days, phrases repeated many times, so I cared little about them. If you thought the lyrics back then were junky, I wonder why you have to say about contemporary rock, or other genres of music. It would be interesting to know.
Incidentally Bob Dylan was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2016 for his contribution to Literature and most of his best remembered works came from the 60's and 70's.
CzarNicholas
05-07-19, 18:34
If you thought the lyrics back then were junky, I wonder why you have to say about contemporary rock, or other genres of music. It would be interesting to know.
Incidentally Bob Dylan was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2016 for his contribution to Literature and most of his best remembered works came from the 60's and 70's.What's your point LOL.
But I would love to do her.
If this is the same one that was out there, Dec. / Jan. / Feb. On and off, mostly off.
I did see several 30 something white guys taking her (never anything but well dressed fit guys).
On several occasions, I don't know what kinda deal they made, and no idea.
What if anything she delivered?
I will say she could be the prettiest hooker face in all of Asia LOL.
Wait for it LOL.
The stampede to find her!
Good luck.I don't think they are talking about the one you (and I) saw back then. I have not seen that one around for perhaps two months. Unless she comes out of hiding momentarily and immediately gets scooped up for LT. Hard to believe she did LT though.
I saw her close some deals and walk off toward a ST hotel with the same types of punters you mentioned. It never appeared as though she was happy to close the deal, never looked like she was happy to "go to work" as she marched oblivious three steps ahead of her customer and I never saw her being repeated by a customer.
If you thought the lyrics back then were junky, I wonder why you have to say about contemporary rock, or other genres of music. It would be interesting to know.
Too me, for any huge mega hit, the music was always far more important than the lyrics, hence I have always been happy to listen to music with no singing. However I am quite sure others would disagree me. Pink Floyd maybe had a lot fans via lyrics as well as the music. My favourite Pink F album was Wish You Were Here, minimal lyrics really. Does any big hit ever have really shit music? Perhaps in the modern day it does happen. However crappy lyrics has never been a big issue.
I am not generally a big fan of Ballads type of rock (Phil Collins was an exception though), more when the music has pace and some power about it, but not to heavy metal style. Not a fan of the rock and roll era. Even the beetles, the music backing was a bit simplistic for my taste generally. Some funky stuff appealed to me. Lyrics good or bad have never been my main focus. So just musically oriented. Big fan of Sting, a very talented song writer. Quite musical and interesting.
Best quality Techno and Reggae, are fine for me.
I am not a fan of current pop music generally, where very long phrases are sung on a single musical note or tone, or maybe only minimal changes of tone in the phrase. This is the current trend but not very melodic. One of the very early songs to have a very small tone variations was the verse from "Horse with no Name". It was sort of appropriate to the dreary feeling of the song being in the dessert plodding and looking for water. However now most songs try to have minimal melody in the verse. Repeating the same note / tone many times is the current formula. Not a fan of a lot of modern cutesy pop. I can listen to songs from Sia and Rihanna (singers with oomf) because they can be quite musical at times. Many of Rihanna songs have crappy repeated lyrics, so what? Naturally hate modern disco stuff (car alarm music as one guy called it). Mostly like Latin songs, e. G. "Tengo la Camisa Nehra" just one example, even if understand minimal Spanish.
Everyone can have very different musical choice. One day went into Jungle Jims or was it Cactus. The expat requesting all the music videos was getting them to play early 70's heavy ugly rock, by very obscure bands I never saw before. The girls could not dance to it all. Ha ha. Very unsuitable. I would rather have had some latin or even Nikki Minaj. Something danceable.
Isaan Karaoke ballads are really uninteresting to me, but had to put up with a lot of that for Songkran. Seems those in the Isaan province don't like to sing Thai songs, only Isaan songs, so I did not know any of them at all. Sometimes a pacey amusing Thai song can be fun in a gogo bar and having the girls do a bit of "Mor Ram" dancing. Best when they are funny songs not serious.
Some of the Carabao rock songs are okay For my taste, but modern Thai pop not much good for me.
If this is the same one that was out there, Dec. / Jan. / Feb. On and off, mostly off.
I will say she could be the prettiest hooker face in all of Asia LOL.
I should have snuck a photo from distance of the skinny beauty I liked. Then we would have to debate if was same one. I recall jean shorts I think and very pretty face.
Prettiest hooker in all Asia is a bit ridiculous. None of us are likely to be able complete such a survey. However I will say that one glance at her, and no thought required from me. Drop dead hot and gorgeous. From a glance I would score the face a 9 points. All natural, nothing fake looking about her at all. Being deaf, who cares?
I think I first saw her early this year or late last year. Yes mostly off more than on. Could have been below age. I don't know. I have certainly done below age girls before, but not on purpose. I just did not realise, especially when some on them are mothers, you just don't think of it.
If she gets stampeded by too many guys, she might stop coming there, not sure. Unfortunately none of the other deaf girls can compete with her looks. Maybe will have to have a ridiculous offer ready for her next time. Ha ha
I should have snuck a photo from distance of the skinny beauty I liked. Then we would have to debate if was same one. I recall jean shorts I think and very pretty face.
Prettiest hooker in all Asia is a bit ridiculous. None of us are likely to be able complete such a survey. However I will say that one glance at her, and no thought required from me. Drop dead hot and gorgeous. From a glance I would score the face a 9 points. All natural, nothing fake looking about her at all. Being deaf, who cares?
I think I first saw her early this year or late last year. Yes mostly off more than on. Could have been below age. I don't know. I have certainly done below age girls before, but not on purpose. I just did not realise, especially when some on them are mothers, you just don't think of it.
If she gets stampeded by too many guys, she might stop coming there, not sure. Unfortunately none of the other deaf girls can compete with her looks. Maybe will have to have a ridiculous offer ready for her next time. Ha haMaybe a charitable soul can ID her from one of the YT vids on streetwalkers.
CzarNicholas
05-08-19, 09:57
I should have snuck a photo from distance of the skinny beauty I liked. Then we would have to debate if was same one. I recall jean shorts I think and very pretty face.
Prettiest hooker in all Asia is a bit ridiculous. None of us are likely to be able complete such a survey. However I will say that one glance at her, and no thought required from me. Drop dead hot and gorgeous. From a glance I would score the face a 9 points. All natural, nothing fake looking about her at all. Being deaf, who cares?
I think I first saw her early this year or late last year. Yes mostly off more than on. Could have been below age. I don't know. I have certainly done below age girls before, but not on purpose. I just did not realise, especially when some on them are mothers, you just don't think of it.
If she gets stampeded by too many guys, she might stop coming there, not sure. Unfortunately none of the other deaf girls can compete with her looks. Maybe will have to have a ridiculous offer ready for her next time. Ha haPrettiest hooker in all of Asia? I was being a tad hyperbolic.
But its possible its also true, I would give her a 10 on any continent.
I'm guessing we are talking about the same one!
But I think drop dead hot and gorgeous is no different than the prettiest face is Asia.
Deaf who cares? You could cut her legs and arms off and I would still do her!
Ala the movie, boxing Helena.
CzarNicholas
05-08-19, 10:17
I should have snuck a photo from distance of the skinny beauty I liked. Then we would have to debate if was same one. I recall jean shorts I think and very pretty face.
Prettiest hooker in all Asia is a bit ridiculous. None of us are likely to be able complete such a survey. However I will say that one glance at her, and no thought required from me. Drop dead hot and gorgeous. From a glance I would score the face a 9 points. All natural, nothing fake looking about her at all. Being deaf, who cares?
I think I first saw her early this year or late last year. Yes mostly off more than on. Could have been below age. I don't know. I have certainly done below age girls before, but not on purpose. I just did not realise, especially when some on them are mothers, you just don't think of it.
If she gets stampeded by too many guys, she might stop coming there, not sure. Unfortunately none of the other deaf girls can compete with her looks. Maybe will have to have a ridiculous offer ready for her next time. Ha haIn all seriousness I would pay her price.
But it would have 2 be BBFS, I'm guessing that's why she doesn't like me.
I'm sure I asked for that, and she marked me as persona non great lmao!
Hookers can't hurt me LOL.
If they reject me I get what I want from some other hooker, they lose (I'm guessing she goes home without any money some nights) her choice.
I will get what I want (trust me) it may just take me a few more minutes 2 find it.
If you have a pocket full of baht in Thailand, don't fret everything will be OK LOL.
Banana Boi
05-08-19, 11:15
Re. Music. Thai dance music is the best music. Don't really care about the music. Just like when Thai girls go insane when they are mao mak mak at 2 am in a Pattaya gogo bar.
Re. Music. Thai dance music is the best music. Don't really care about the music. Just like when Thai girls go insane when they are mao mak mak at 2 am in a Pattaya gogo bar.Many of us have always been irked that many places play music the gals like and not music the patrons like. Cactus when John was running it was really great. Some great tunes ranging from classic rock, to alt-new wave, to blues, to alt-country; it was great. When I first came most Cowboy bars played at least some rock. GoGos used to be a great place to drink with all your buddies. Not to expensive and then you could grab a gal when you were ready to shag. Midnight was unreal before the Arab bought it (twas his first bar). 100 Baht drinks and lady drinks, 500 Baht BF included use of ST room upstairs, and gals happy with 1 k. Used to sit in the back booth for hours on end, pop upstairs for a romp, then back downstairs to hang out with friends. Good playlist as well when Aussie Mark was running the place.
Isaan Karaoke ballads are really uninteresting to me, but had to put up with a lot of that for Songkran. Seems those in the Isaan province don't like to sing Thai songs, only Isaan songs, so I did not know any of them at all. Sometimes a pacey amusing Thai song can be fun in a gogo bar and having the girls do a bit of "Mor Ram" dancing. Best when they are funny songs not serious.
Some of the Carabao rock songs are okay For my taste, but modern Thai pop not much good for me.When I go to karaoke with educated Thais from the office, they sing Thai pop songs and I find those songs to be pretty good. I don't like the ballads, but the fast pop songs I do like. My very first visit to Bangkok, the girls in the office bought me a Nicole Theriault CD since I commented on how much I liked it when they sang that Busaba song at karaoke. There's something quite charming about very cute office girls singing those songs. That was a long time ago, but this song is pretty well representative of Thai Pop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q8AZaDQDbc
That being said, when in the bars, I prefer the fast Issan songs, they remind me of Indonesian dangdut which I think is great music. (Mainly for the reasons banana boi mentions a couple of posts before this one.)
That being said, when in the bars, I prefer the fast Issan songs, they remind me of Indonesian dangdut which I think is great music. (Mainly for the reasons banana boi mentions a couple of posts before this one.)You know enough of the language to pick difference between songs in Thai and in Isaan? I know because I understand the later somewhat less well and it has different tones, although tones are a bit hidden by songs. The very basic Isaan words give it away.
Jao si bpai sai? Where will you will go? In Thai: Khun ja bpai nai? I probably have only 100 to 200 words of very common Isaan vocab, enough to get by, and fortunately many words are the same as Thai just pronounced a bit differently.
Het ee-yang What are you doing?
I do have an App on the phone to learn Lao which is close enough to Isaan speech. However requires one to be quite studious.
Isaan actually sounds quite ugly compared to Thai, especially when extra loud which is common.
You know enough of the language to pick difference between songs in Thai and in Isaan?It ain't rocket science. You don't need to know a word they are saying to be able to tell the difference. Isaan dance music has that fun twang to it. As far as ballads, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference, but I don't like those anyway.
Many of us have always been irked that many places play music the gals like and not music the patrons like. Cactus when John was running it was really great. Some great tunes ranging from classic rock, to alt-new wave, to blues, to alt-country; it was great. When I first came most Cowboy bars played at least some rock. GoGos used to be a great place to drink with all your buddies. Not to expensive and then you could grab a gal when you were ready to shag. Midnight was unreal before the Arab bought it (twas his first bar). 100 Baht drinks and lady drinks, 500 Baht BF included use of ST room upstairs, and gals happy with 1 k. Used to sit in the back booth for hours on end, pop upstairs for a romp, then back downstairs to hang out with friends. Good playlist as well when Aussie Mark was running the place.Agree that Cactus was a great music bar when John was around. A reliable source told me that Long Gun just changed their music profile. Now it is "old music" as the girls describe it. More or less same style of music as in Sexy Night bar in Nana. This means rock classics from the late 60's, 70's and 80's. If this is just a temporary idea from the owner (the fat lady frequenting some evenings) or a more permanent move I do not know. Very good move in my opinion, but than again Long Gun always have had great variety in music and shows. They seem more focused on pleasing the tourists these days and not the eye candy girls they were known for 15-20 years ago.
Blanquiceleste
05-08-19, 15:44
What's your point LOL.The point is lyrics were far better back in the 60's and 70's than now. Pretty simple conclusion.
And, for the record, Barry received the Nobel Prize for Peace. Not Literature. I think there is a small difference, don't you?
The point is lyrics were far better back in the 60's and 70's than now. Pretty simple conclusion.
And, for the record, Barry received the Nobel Prize for Peace. Not Literature. I think there is a small difference, don't you?Some mighty good singer songwriters in the US now. Ever heard Jason Isbell?
CzarNicholas
05-08-19, 16:10
The point is lyrics were far better back in the 60's and 70's than now. Pretty simple conclusion.
And, for the record, Barry received the Nobel Prize for Peace. Not Literature. I think there is a small difference, don't you?Completely destroyed the credibility of the committee, espec in matters of such huge subjectivity.
Peace? Literature? Art?
Even the stem categories have been tainted by politicization.
Blanquiceleste
05-08-19, 16:12
Some mighty good singer songwriters in the US now. Ever heard Jason Isbell?Yeah! 4 Grammy's and counting. I am not saying there is no talent these days, just that music from back in the 60's and 70's appeal to me more.
I also think this has something to do with swarming of content. Today there is so much content on the net it is impossible to get your hands around all of it to make an objective assessment of who is really the best. I am sure everyday millions of songs must be slipping past me unheard. Back then, one would wait for the single to come out and then the album and then the tour.
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