Bangkok Reports

[Aslan]

Was recently in Bangkok and every time I go back I feel it is losing something. There were quite a few black girls and eastern europeans with pimps hanging around Subway and the Nana Station. I also really am not a fan of the large Muslim population in the area. Why this devout group of people chooses to set up shop in this area is beyond me. I've been to Bangkok many times and used to sit out on Sirkumvit late at night after all the bars closed, have a few beers, and talk to the girls without a problem, but now it doesn't seem as safe.

During my trip to Pattaya I also couldn't believe the Russian explosion that has taken place there since my last trip about a year ago. Lots of nice looking Russian girls everywhere. I actually saw the famous Na hanging out on the stroll. There was a time when I really wanted to nail her, but now.......not so much.

With all the political problems they are having, higher rates, and influence of outsiders I may have to find another place to spend my dollars.

[Papae Noel]

Most civilized!

I think I'll start looking into this now, instead of waiting until my next trip, now that you have given the name of the train and itinerary.

Thanks Betong

[Gangles]

I was bemused to read in the national daily that the rapid fall in business has caused bargirls in the Patpong area to drop their prices to 800TBH for ST.

This is quite a cut.

Can anyone verify this report?

Gangles

[Flyhere]

I was bemused to read in the national daily that the rapid fall in business has caused bargirls in the Patpong area to drop their prices to 800TBH for ST.

This is quite a cut.

Can anyone verify this report?

Gangles
That is very believable although I don't know how common it is. Walking down Soi Cowboy which is very quiet for a weekend, the girls are sitting outside holding signs for 40thb-60thb for a beer, that is a big drop from the regular 100thb-120thb.

[BuleDaddy]

A fresh shirt and strong underarm deodorant are a must.
Thai girls don't really go for manly stench, because Thais have no BO.

I had just arrived so I had plenty of clean clothes, was clean shaven and had plenty of money. I just like to budget myself to 4kbht a day for food and booty. I always tip the housekeeping well to give me 4-5 towells. Being American, we normally shower at the very LEAST once a day and over there multiple times a day. Like, I am not from the Isles or the Continent (solly Dahling), so you are preaching to the choir 8^). I remember having to coach euro/brit foreign exchange students on the use of soap back in High School. The worst stench I ever smelled in my life was from the French tourists down in St. Martin and St. Barts. The British and Irish pubs smelled kind of BOish back in the 80's.

I was just commenting on how the Nana lot hit the skids and commercial places suited my needs much better. Actually after my 3 days in BKK I did a weekend clubbing in Jakarta and brought back a Bandung beauty to the Land of Stooges. WOW, what an delight. Her skin was like silk from being covered up all her life. Far more refined than ANY pooying I have ever encountered. When the ethnic Thais wanting to regain control of the corruption from the Chino-Thai syndicate took control of the airport and their governement did NOTHING to assist the stranded tourist this girl worked wonders getting us through Malaysia on to Singapore. Speaking Bahasa and sporting her veil, Bandung baby got us the best bus seats and people fetched food for us. The Thai bus website would only display in that old sanskrit chicken scratching. We just rode to the bust station and took a chance as there was no other way out of that place. At the bus station some Thai-twat tried to send us off saying the busses to Hat Yai were all gone and not until the next evening would one be ready. I let my little Javanese lady take over and another veiled Thai woman in line told us to take the Yala bus, that it stopped in Hat Yai. Why did that first Thai lady not tell us that? Because they are contemptuous of foreigners.

Now a sexpat will be able to get the cheapest unbagged sex in the world. The backpackers will be able to afford 4 star hotels and all the high end tourists will be going elsewhere. Watch the airlines move their stopover hubs to other airports. This place didn't even need that crazy circus tent airport. Don Muong was just fine.

[Member #3428]

That is very believable although I don't know how common it is. Walking down Soi Cowboy which is very quiet for a weekend, the girls are sitting outside holding signs for 40thb-60thb for a beer, that is a big drop from the regular 100thb-120thb.

Really? This goes opposite from what I've seen. I heard girls asking for more not less. It is common for them to up their prices when they don't get many customers, or atleast ask for a much higher price then normal.

[Ub 6969]

Hey Alsan

Where exactly were the Russian girl hanging around and Can you still find them round

McDonalds? How much were they asking?

[Retired Army]

I was bemused to read in the national daily that the rapid fall in business has caused bargirls in the Patpong area to drop their prices to 800TBH for ST.

This is quite a cut.

Can anyone verify this report?

Gangles

That's contrary to Thai logic. When demand falls they usually raise prices to maintain the same level of income. That's Thai economics 101.

[Flyhere]

Really? This goes opposite from what I've seen. I heard girls asking for more not less. It is common for them to up their prices when they don't get many customers, or atleast ask for a much higher price then normal.
may be they just dropped the price for beer. Yeah, girls probably will ask for more. Will investigate.

[NicFrenchy]

I was bemused to read in the national daily that the rapid fall in business has caused bargirls in the Patpong area to drop their prices to 800TBH for ST.


anyone with even little experience in LOS can tell you this is all a bunch of bull.

[MilesToGo]

....cut

This leads to the point that the main reason we collect phone numbers of MP girls and bar girls in general is organize a time to see them.
If have a GF its easier just to go discreetly to an MP, right? ...cut.... or of many other reasons that would be the case. Here’s my outline-

have just returned home for a few days now, getting back to real life, recalling collection of pics and memories, Micks above quote inspired me to write this brief report.

Given the current crisis over the airport situation.

Had got myself up to BKK to deal directly with the airline head office. Surely the expected lineup at the office as it opened, I was promptly assigned #18.
So sitting in a quiet hallway corner, I organize my day, go new, or call up a reliable favorite? Turns out, old fav #1 did not answer her phone, but also perhaps she did not recognize my new sim #. plan b - call fav #2 – still no answer. STUPID me – what tg answers her phone by 9am!!! My turn quickly comes up and we are dealing with flight particulars though I am listed as a standby for the following day. Hey, what the heck-leaving 2 days early overall but at least I can get out! Considering I had heard thru the concierge at the JW Marriot that people were paying up to 50K just for a flight out WTF!!

So out on the street, morning air not BKK stifled yet. Choose to take a walk down towards Silom area, have a coffee, maybe a bit of gift shopping and check out the area.

As I am waiting for my expresso, phone rings – it is #1 (we’ll call her Nam). She is just returning the call, not knowing it was me. I can tell she is thrilled I have called and why I did not let her know I was in town. Maybe just me – I prefer not too much notice, as they tend to start ringing often once they know you are around.

Arranged to meet Nam around 4pm. Leaves me about 4hrs before returning to hotel to clean up etc… so my lazy morning plans still on track. Some lunch in me, shopping done, what to do around 2pm? At this point BKK air has necessitated a shower but after seeing all the non-p4p in their typical hot looks, I had to have some other stimulus.

So this is where Mick’s “…easier just to go discreetly to an MP…” just fits in so well. Why shower alone? Another choice – a fav at Annies or Tulip. I know maybe not so many fans of Annies here – but on a ymmv – I have always had a guaranteed 2hr/2 shot min. But alas 2hrs might not fit with seeing Nam, so continue along bts to Tulip.

Tulip report to be filed in massage thread.

Exit Tulip, not a repeat session here but maybe it was me also?

At our designated meeting spot. I guess I arrive first, no sight of Nam, good, have some fruit (pineapple) to remove/dissolve/enhance anything I might carry as evidence or else. Walk the immediate 50m area, maybe she’s grabbing some food (aren’t all tg’s always eating!). No find her but collect another lovely’s phone # with just a smile! So Nam arrives about 30min. late but looking great and carrying some sort of small backpack/bag. As much as I want to physically touch her, this is just not the thai way (in public anyway). She declines any offer for food but we slip into a 7-11 for some a couple of things along the way back to the hotel. Customary id check for her and up we go. In the room, she hugs and treats me like a very long lost lover. What followed for the next few hours and how she managed to coax it out of me was incredible! By now I need REAL food, so shower together, more loving attention by her, we do eventually get out of the room.

Did I mention-she bought ME a gift!! What a new tg tactic! This was the reason for the backpack (seeing some other clothes and stuff too in there).
Now let me say this – I did not intentionally want to take her LT – but you can hypothesize what is about to happen. She had been so sweet, I just haven’t said yes but she did leave her bag in the room as we head out for dinner. A nice time had, share about where her life is now (claims exited p4p) and gone back to school, in debt over 100K, but claims needs no support, will do it herself! (warrning radar reduced to low alert). Shares more about her family, her daughter and where her life might take her. Not so pie in the sky dreams like some others I have met but NOT into my long term plans.

Back to room, cleanup again and some playfulness-but it is I on empty, we fall asleep together very comfortably. She did tell me she has to be at school for 9am, thus the change in clothes. She does not wake up to alarm, but is already trying to arouse me as I wake up to some silky thai skin bathed in the morning’s filtered glow. We do get downstairs in time to have some breakfast before sending her off, with arrangements and directions where to meet her for lunch.

As we are having some fantastic Japanese food the my phone rings, not a number I know – it is the airline office – can I leave TONIGHT? Though I was on standby this timing was horrible, I was really enjoying my time (maybe too much) with this tg and was not quite done with her yet. Accept right there yes or no or maybe not get out for weeks and try explaining that back home! Told airline – would be there by 4pm to pick up, she seemed genuinely disappointed, I apologized, yet she understood why. So I had to be out of my hotel by 9:30 or 10pm latest. To make up to her, I invited her daughter and mom to join us for dinner. In my limited experience, I have yet to know a tg to bring along her daughter to meet a falang met in the p4p world. Met many sister’s thou – aren’t they all!!

Some phone calls, mom’s leg not feeling so good, Nam to pick up daughter after school and a meeting place picked. Another tg clock, this time 45mins late, almost had to abandon her. What a cute little girl, possible would have married her mother if met at a different time/place. We choose service a little quicker, little girl would like KFC, as we would choose elsewhere in the food court. Had her choose a take out box for her mom since she couldn’t come out- to her amazement. Little things go such a long way.

Again all proper physical distance in public, also in front of her girl, though I knew my time was getting very limited now. A walk after the meal, an ice cream for Nam’s little girl and time to say our goodbyes. I could feel Nam’s response as I touched her hand and looked in her eyes as her little girl watched the traffic below us. We broke our separate ways and she called me as I was leaving the hotel, bags in hand, I am totally suckered or she really misses me, too bad I did not have one more night (or more) with her. There is something I will follow up on the next trip.

[Khun Larry]

Learning to speak some Thai might help. I know many Thai women that are really cute, smart, educated, charming, and not *****s... but they are usually "traps" as they often expect to become your regular girlfriend or wife if you are single (mia noi or "second wife" if you are not). I've even been once chased after by a really beautiful 25-year old virgin (yes, she told me that she still is!) Thai woman working in a mobile phone shop, but I've declined as I've understood very quickly that she wants to get married prior according to anyone her sexual favors.



I agree with alot of what you say Goyave. I speak thai quite well, read too. Best way to proceed for the visitor is assume Thais are *****s. In full disclosure, I have a Thai gf for 6 years now so what can I say.

As for virgins, I me one in the Beer Garten :)

[Goyave]

... The worst stench I ever smelled in my life was from the French tourists down in St. Martin and St. Barts...That's funny because the worst odor I've ever smelt so far was from an American fat air hostess in a Delta Air Lines flight who uses so much (presumably cheap) perfume that it was really unbearable each time she was in the vicinity of my seat. Not kidding here: unless you suffer from anosmia, you could have smelt her approaching in a more than 10-meter radius. It was particularly terrible during lunch time.

I don't know which was her perfume that day (and I don't know why an American airline dares to employ clearly overweight air hostesses too), but it was not one from any of the French makers that I know and I know quite a lot of their fragrances.

We, stinky French people, are famous (among other things) for our expertise and production in this area. We can usually mask our cheesy odor most of the time, alas, it seems that it's not always the case. Sorry if the ones among us who can afford to spend their vacation in St. Martin and St. Barts stink more than Pepé Le Pew. I won't recommend you to use the Parisian subway during the evening rush-hours then: you might think that we are using chemical weapons of mass destruction and believe that you should bring democracy to our country (http://humor.beecy.net/funny-pictures/american-democracy/bumper-sticker.jpg).

Just kidding here. But I was not when speaking about the smelly pussy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNXIZuIBJKs) from Delta Air Lines: I won't be the one feeding this! ;)

Don't get me wrong: she's probably very clean but is too fat and unattractive in my humble opinion and her bad taste in perfumes doesn't help either...

By the way, I don't share all your views about Thai people and their country, but I enjoy reading your reports nonetheless: they are usually funny and provocative and you have an original writing style.

[Goyave]

I agree with alot of what you say Goyave. I speak thai quite well, read too. Best way to proceed for the visitor is assume Thais are *****s. In full disclosure, I have a Thai gf for 6 years now so what can I say.

As for virgins, I me one in the Beer Garten :)Thank you, Khun Larry. Let's say that the occasional visitor can make some valid assumptions if he or she limits his or her visits to certain places (such as the famous Biergarten / Beer Garden in Bangkok, Sukhumvit Soi 7, for instance).

[MarkABC]

Bangkok's red light district suffers from political chaos

BANGKOK (AFP) – The go-go bars are empty and sex is on sale at half price as Bangkok's infamous red light districts suffer from a blockade of the capital's airports.

"It's high season, but now it's like low season," said Nan, a scantily-clad hostess at one deserted nightspot in the Thai capital's notorious Patpong area.

An old man played guitar and sang along to a karaoke machine inside. Outside, beneath the pink neon, about 10 women in almost identical low-cut dresses tried to drum up trade.

Although anti-government protesters have ended an eight-day siege of Bangkok's airports, the effect of Thailand's ongoing political chaos on the tourism industry is devastating.

Sex tourism is no exception. Patpong depends on foreigners to keep afloat, but as the 350,000 air travellers stranded by the airport closures rush to leave Thailand, replacements are not coming in.

"Now Thailand has a problem -- no customers," said Lam, a man who works for Nan's bar, luring tourists in off the streets by posing as a friendly Thai offering unsolicited advice on good places to go.

Lam is hopeful the trade will return to Patpong, a lurid strip of live shows and sleazy nightlife.

"It is because of the airport, but now the airport is all clear," he said.

The Tourism Authority of Thailand is not so optimistic.

The group expects incoming travellers in 2009 to be half the 14.8 million the kingdom saw last year, with word of the protests causing tourists considering a trip to Thailand to book elsewhere.

At the normally standing-room-only "ping-pong" shows, five or six women swarm each new arrival. Some are following the example of Thailand's resorts and luxury hotels by offering discounted rates.

Prostitutes offer two hours of sexual services for 800 baht (about 22 dollars) instead of the normal 1,500 to 2,000 baht that would cost.

"Since re-opening of the airports business is trickling in but very slow," adding that guests normally came from Europe -- especially the Netherlands and Belgium -- and Asian countries such as South Korea, Japan and Singapore.

The blockade may have brought in some extra trade.

American tourists Lisa Richardson, 30, and Michael Latham, 29, said they would never have come to Patpong had they not been stranded in Bangkok.

"Being stuck for an extra week convinced us to spend time and money on things we wouldn't have normally -- ping-pong shows for example," said Latham.

But he said that he felt for Thais whose livelihood was being hit, adding: "they're hurt so much worse than we are and it just hurts to see," Latham said.

Thailand was until 2005 the world's leading destination for sex tourists, when its crown was taken by Brazil, according to Interpol.

Although prostitution is officially illegal in Thailand, estimates for the number of sex workers range from 80 000 to two million women and men.

At her Patpong bar, Nan says she hopes the tourists return soon, as she sends the money she earns back to her family near the Cambodian border.

"Maybe in 15 days, a month it comes back," she said.

[Retired Army]

I speak thai quite well, read too. Best way to proceed for the visitor is assume Thais are *****s. In full disclosure, I have a Thai gf for 6 years now so what can I say.This statement prove exactly how much you don't know about Thailand or Thai women. Therefore, you claim that your girlfriend is a ***** along with my Thai wife. Your atrtitude towards good, decent Thai women, whom are the majority, pisses me off.

[PauloThai]

Hey Alsan, Where exactly were the Russian girls hanging around and can you still find them round.

McDonalds? How much were they asking?Hi Ub69,

Many Russian girls in Moscow, St.Petersburg etc.

Prices about $100-$500

In Thailand.... many Thai girls!

Cheers

[Nauskas]

Hi Ub69,

Many Russian girls in Moscow, St.Petersburg etc.

Prices about $100-$500

In Thailand.... many Thai girls!

Cheers
I visited some old haunts and ended up back at CM2. Essentially, they (EE?Russian) charge twice or more than Thai. Typically asking 3-5KB, but once the stroke of 0200, the real bargaining starts :)

The Thai and Middle Eastern girls where mostly model quality than in Nana or the BTS stations. I suppose it helps having to pay a cover charge.

They told me there are some after hours bars they go for a last shot at a customer if they have nothing when normal bars close.

I didn't find out the names.

[NicFrenchy]

Hi Ub69,

Many Russian girls in Moscow, St.Petersburg etc.

Prices about $100-$500

In Thailand.... many Thai girls!

Cheers

oh lord, here we are again, another smart ass remark about "when in Thailand..."

Put a lid on it. Not everyone going to Thailand is looking for Thai girls. If your goal is to fuck as many TGs as you can during your Holiday, do so but don't blame others because they want something different.

Thai girls are nice but sometimes a change of pace (and girls) is most welcome so the Russian girls (or should I say uzbeks, for the most part) have a lot of business.

Ub 6969,

Russiam Girls usually hang around CM2, Rajah hotel (soi 4), some in front of the Subway shop Soi 7/1, many around the grace hotel and Mike Place.

Prices are higher than Thai girls and can go from 3,500 to 5/6,000 depending on what services you require

[Goyave]

Wow, you're a real class act (on my ignore list you go...)Khun Larry edited his post at least once before you quoted it, NicFrenchy, and it was already a great improvement from the first published version that I read.

A non negligible number of tourists (and even expatriates) who only visit, or stay at, certain places and locations might think alike, but I also disagree: in their great majority, Thai women are decent and charming persons, not *****s, but the great majority of tourists (and alas, lots of expats too) will probably never ever have the opportunity to (really) know them. And will indeed encounter more P4P girls than "regular" ones.

It's a pity if someone who can speak Thai quite well does not know more of the second "species" than of the first one. I'd rather think that Khun Larry wanted to warn the average Joe that he would very seldom meet non-P4P women in the Land of Smiles.

[Retired Army]

Another Thai expert that doesn't know shit about Thailand or Thai women. I'm willing to bet your GF is straight from S of L or some other $2 blowjob bar. You get what your deserve. Or, I suspect it's all you can get as no decent woman is going to have anything to do with the likes of you.

[NicFrenchy]

I'm willing to bet your GF is straight from S of L or some other $2 blowjob bar.

Well for the life of me, if BJ's were $2 a pop @ SOL I'd set up camp there. RA, you would be surprised by the look of some of the SOL girls, cute as a button.

[M P Lurker]

Well for the life of me, if BJ's were $2 a pop @ SOL I'd set up camp there. RA, you would be surprised by the look of some of the SOL girls, cute as a button.
Hope SOL Tuk will be back to BKK soon as look forward to a BJ girl who can take it alll in. That is a special feeling.

Often I would rather have a fuck than have a girl blow just the knob and maybe just a little more. Here I am refering to girls that are very average at blow jobs.

[NicFrenchy]

Hope SOL Tuk will be back to BKK soon as look forward to a BJ girl who can take it alll in. That is a special feeling.Tuk is out of the Biz, completely. She changed her Mobile number so is very hard to reach now. Only a very select bunch have her number and sadly, I am not one of them.


Often I would rather have a fuck than have a girl blow just the knob and maybe just a little more. Here I am refering to girls that are very average at blow jobs.I like to be blown sometimes, especially when the girl is good and relaxed. The feeling of relaxing while a girl gives you a slow wet head is beautiful :)

Ah! shit, I am all excited now! off to SOL I go.

[Retired Army]

Well for the life of me, if BJ's were $2 a pop @ SOL I'd set up camp there. RA, you would be surprised by the look of some of the SOL girls, cute as a button.Well, maybe SOL isn't a good analogy. But my point is: this dickhead only knows *****s because that's all he can get. Therefore, he thinks all Thai girls are *****s. He makes a general statement that is totally untrue. No decent girl is going to give him the time-of-day.

[Spider916]

Did anybody see that coyote girl in Mojos with the huge inflated tits?

She looks quite nice otherwise but those DD are just too ridiculous.

Anyway, does anyone know what's the deal with those girls? I asked their Mamsan if barfine was available but she said no.

Cheers


Y

A high proportion of top coyote girls have implants in my experience. I prefer naturals that shake and sway properly.

I even know a girl with natural Ds for when when I am in a big tit mood which is not that often. I am more of a pretty face and sexy bum (of female type) man.

[Kuratla]

Tuk is out of the Biz, completely. She changed her Mobile number so is very hard to reach now. Only a very select bunch have her number and sadly, I am not one of them.Good for her. I hope, unlike last time, she stays out permanently.

[Kuratla]

Well, maybe SOL isn't a good analogy.Not around here, anyway. I get the feeling that there are more than a few punters here who have spent quite some time at SOL and have come to realize that a lot of the girls there (or girls who used to work there); eg Pla, Joy, Tuk, Lek, and Rabbit to name a few, are genuinely caring and wonderful women (and amazing fellatrixes to boot).

You should go and try out SOL and see for yourself.

[M P Lurker]

Well, maybe SOL isn't a good analogy. But my point is: this dickhead only knows *****s because that's all he can get. Therefore, he thinks all Thai girls are *****s. He makes a general statement that is totally untrue. No decent girl is going to give him the time-of-day.
Its important to realise that its a girl's character that matters.
Labelling as either decent or *****s is too simplistic.
Sounds like old religious programming to me.

Whether a girl has ever resorted to P4P in desperate financial times is not that relevant to her overall character.
Some P4P girls have far better character than some officially non-P4P.

Some girls get horny and want to have sex. Its not so evil to accept money for it too when desperate for money. The disturbing part really, is how low a standard of man she is willing to accept for the cash.
If everything was turned around backwards, I would fuck for money if I could choose which girls were good enough.

Some free-lancers and bar-girls have some class and will be choosy about which guys they are willing to go with. I have met bar girls who rarely accept a customer and only go occasionally with some guy they really like.

Its a lot tougher for MP girls to knock back customers but does happen. She can always claim he wanted sex with no condom.

Is every guy that supports a girl financially, sleeping with a *****? If the financial support was not there would she stay?

How do you feel about girls that are ex-P4P and don't want to do it anymore and are now doing regular jobs. Are these still *****s?

[Retired Army]

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How do you feel about girls that are ex-P4P and don't want to do it anymore and are now doing regular jobs. Are these still *****s?


I've got no problem with them. I know many ex P4P girls in Thailand and all over the world and for the most part they are good, decent women married to nice guys.

Actually, most of them are glad to be out of the P4P business and take really good care of their husbands.

[Retired Army]

Not around here, anyway. I get the feeling that there are more than a few punters here who have spent quite some time at SOL and have come to realize that a lot of the girls there (or girls who used to work there); eg Pla, Joy, Tuk, Lek, and Rabbit to name a few, are genuinely caring and wonderful women (and amazing fellatrixes to boot).

You should go and try out SOL and see for yourself.


I tried SOL once and it just wasn't my cup-of-tea. Having a girl crawl between your legs at the bar and give your a blow job just didn't get me aroused. Especially when my friends were sitting beside me and laughing.

[Tall Tom]

Its important to realise that its a girl's character that matters.
Labelling as either decent or *****s is too simplistic.

Sounds like old religious programming to me.Ml,

Thanks for making this posting. I don't have the experience in Thailand that most readers have (just look at my posting #'s! ), but I could not agree with you more.

There are three TGs that I have maintained some degree of contact with; one works in an MP, another at Soi Cowboy, and another I met as a FL. I am sure they would not be interested in me if I was not a paying or potential paying "customer" when we first met. But even with that as an initial basis of contact, I have had a wonderful friendship and relationship with all three of them. We've had great nights together, along with days and boat rides and dinners.

Are they P4P? Sure. Are they classical wh***s? Well, they accept my money so I suppose some of you could say that. But I think that is only part of it. At the end of the day, they want a little better life for themselves, their families. They have chosen the P4P route, probably for any number of reasons. So they go to hotels with farangs. Does this make them evil people, or "sinful" (to follow on your religious programming comment)? No, I think they are being pragmatic, given conditions and opportunities in Thailand, and they are doing the best they can, given the resources they have to help their families and their children.

Of the three, one of them works the "business" with more enthusiasm and energy than the others (and makes more money), but at the end of the day they all want what most people want everywhere. As one point or another, all 3 confided in me about not liking the P4P business, but could not see any other alternatives for themselves. I cannot solve all the problems in Thailand, or even in their lives, but I can treat the P4P girls I am with with respect and understanding. In return, I have gotten some great experiences the memories of which will last a very long time.

And I don't consider them wh***s, and they have never treated my like a "john". One of them took nice care of me when I got food poisoning a while back. Another came with me for ST, spent the night and next morning and never a asked for a thing.

You get what you give in this world. If you treat people like shit, it will come back to you. Karma, perhaps.

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[NicFrenchy]

How do you feel about girls that are ex-P4P and don't want to do it anymore and are now doing regular jobs. Are these still *****s?

That is a very difficult question! and depending on your past experience as a monger, you will answer differently.

Some guys married the first Bar Girl they met, some married one after a few years, some dated ex-Bgs, some are married to ex-prostitutes but met them outside their regular work so have no clue... the list is long.

After 4 years here, there is one thing I have heard over and over:

"You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can never take the bar out of the girl"

As far as I am concerned, I think for the most part Thai girls are very superficial and boring (when in a long term relationship). Being seriously involved with a Thai lady would mean that one of the parties has to change they lifestyle completely as I am not sure that the "middle ground" will work for long.
If you decide to embrace the "Thai" way of life, then you have a chance, no matter if the girl is from P4P or not.
Not that I have a lot of experience (I only had 2 serious relationships with Thai girls that ended because of the drama these ladies create about everything) as I now stick to short term Gf or Gik.

[NicFrenchy]

You get what you give in this world. If you treat people like shit, it will come back to you. Karma, perhaps.

While your Statement is very appealing, It is unfortunately not always the case. There are exceptions (on both Sides).

and don't get me started on the Karma crap LOL

[Warbucks]

...lets transfer here....

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=822691#post822691

Anybody in Bangkok? Where are the reports?

[Member #3428]

These debates are tiring after a while as we all have different opinions.... Some posters think they are all who**s, some think they deserve to be treated like shit, some think they pick to work in this field, etc... And we're never going to change each others opinions or mind about them.

What's that old saying, until you've walked a mile in their shoes don't judge folks. Yes there are millions of women who never enter prostitution but women all sleep with men (or other ladies) for support.

The P4P ladies I've known over time and gotten to know all share three common items before entering P4P.... 1) they were cash poor and had family to feed (kids or family or such) 2) they were emotionally or mentally distraught at the time they entered the business (BF left them with child, husband beat them, father ran off on the family, something) 3) they all had a "cousin" or someone they knew in the business. This is just the ones I've gotten to know. Not saying it's right, not saying its a proper excuse not judging at all.

A funny line from one girl was that she hated thai men so much that she wanted to marry a farang and her relatives who got into the business all ended up marrying a farang so she got into the business as well so she could end up married to a farang and not a "thai bastard".

Personally... I was a drunk before, does not change what I did and the damage I did when I was a drunk, but that is not who I am now. Any of you ISGers who know me have no idea what kind of a bastard and the damage I did before, but I know in my heart and head what I did. And the few girls I know who are out of business know what they did before inside and I know for a fact that they are with some lucky bastards and these girls treat them like kings which they don't deserve.

Also I know many girls who gave up a good number of years taking care of a guy only to have him go find a younger model after a few years and are back in the business. But god love them they still have a great attitude and have some select customers they treat like kings.... Such the reason many of us still visit and pay them.

I don't care if some folks think P4P ladies are dirt, I know some ladies that are P4P in a few countries that better then most folks in this world and surely better then the slime balls I have to work with every day :D .

EDIT: you want to see a what a true wh*re and bastard is... work in the govt. Those are the real prostitutes, and from every fucking country not just one. They make all the Isan P4P ladies look like Mother Teresa compared to them.

[Lover Boy #2]

That's funny because the worst odor I've ever smelt so far was from an American fat air hostess in a Delta Air Lines flight who uses so much (presumably cheap) perfume that it was really unbearable each time she was in the vicinity of my seat. Not kidding here: unless you suffer from anosmia, you could have smelt her approaching in a more than 10-meter radius. It was particularly terrible during lunch time.

I don't know which was her perfume that day (and I don't know why an American airline dares to employ clearly overweight air hostesses too), but it was not one from any of the French makers that I know and I know quite a lot of their fragrances.

We, stinky French people, are famous (among other things) for our expertise and production in this area. We can usually mask our cheesy odor most of the time, alas, it seems that it's not always the case. Sorry if the ones among us who can afford to spend their vacation in St. Martin and St. Barts stink more than Pepé Le Pew. I won't recommend you to use the Parisian subway during the evening rush-hours then: you might think that we are using chemical weapons of mass destruction and believe that you should bring democracy to our country (http://humor.beecy.net/funny-pictures/american-democracy/bumper-sticker.jpg).

Just kidding here. But I was not when speaking about the smelly pussy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNXIZuIBJKs) from Delta Air Lines: I won't be the one feeding this! ;)

Don't get me wrong: she's probably very clean but is too fat and unattractive in my humble opinion and her bad taste in perfumes doesn't help either...

By the way, I don't share all your views about Thai people and their country, but I enjoy reading your reports nonetheless: they are usually funny and provocative and you have an original writing style.

American Democracy has already been studied by Alexis de Tocqueville and he brought his findings back to France in the early part of the 19th century. A little known part of his study in America was a wagon train ride where a smelly Wells Fargo worker had vaginitis and used French perfume to disguise the odor. It was quite a provocative tale for the time.

[Run Mann]

What's that old saying, until you've walked a mile in their shoes don't judge folks.
So True!



I don't care if some folks think P4P ladies are dirt, I know some ladies that are P4P in a few countries that better then most folks in this world and surely better then the slime balls I have to work with every day :D ..

We must work with the same people because I share this experience in some cases too.



EDIT: you want to see a what a true wh*re and bastard is... work in the govt. Those are the real prostitutes, and from every fucking country not just one. They make all the Isan P4P ladies look like Mother Teresa compared to them.

Not only in govt, but also in the business world, it’s quite a scene watching some of the things twenty educated employees will do when competing for one or two promotion slots.

[M P Lurker]

Not simplistic and not religious I am a devout atheist. But I would in no way shape or form call a prostitute decent. I am not a hypocrite. I would not call myself decent; via prostitution and the third world I use my money to take advantage of people who are uneducated, financially strapped young SE Asian women. People say these girls are in dire financial situations I was also once in blue. I was cash strapped on the mean merciless streets of America’s most murderous city. If I had become a criminal would my actions would have been justified since I don’t have anything to sale.

I disagree again. If I become a criminal because of a need of money then change once I don’t need the money no more again would that be reflection of my character?

Ok Mick I agree and disagree here. So if your daughter came to you and said Dad I am horny and I need some money to buy these new sneakers so I am going to fuck the mail man would you be ok with this would tell her go get that money honey?
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Nope. She is sleeping with only that guy in “most” situations. Which is the big difference from a *****. Also this whole debate about financially dependent women being *****s is weak. Like I said most of time she is only messing with that guy and in most situations she would hang tough if the guy fell on hard times or less he found a lady that wasn’t devoted…and if that happens then that is the guy’s fault in not taking enough time to settle on a decent mate.

If a young girl wants to have sex there is no stopping her. Telling them not to just does not work. I would just encourage my daugther to choose a nice guy and take precautions. I would suggest perhaps that buying gym shoes was not a great reason to choose the postman.

Your problem is you see a girl sleeping with multiple guys as comparable to a crime where the guy is forgiven for sleeping with multiple girls.

Why should a girl be devoted to a single guy. Its her choice.

Some of us question the "morals" that we programmed in since childhood and can actually see that they no longer make sense in the modern world.

There was no contrapception in old times so monogamy was invented to provide for someone to be responsible for the children.

Now that we can fuck without producing babies, monogamy makes no sense, and is directly against nature. Most higher brain powered animals play up heaps. Its instinct. Even birds are now known to be polygamists.

So now the point that remains is "Is it O.K. for sexual favours to be sold?" "Is it O.K. to pay for them?" two sides of the coin.

Because I am a polygamous person, but my GF cannot accept other GFs, I must secretly indulge my past time in short bursts and its convenient to pay money to get a hot girl quickly.

Is there anything intrinsically wrong with a girl skilled in sex, charging money for providing this skill. In my opinion no. There is no victim of this supposed "crime".

The true undesirability of prostitutes surely comes from the undesirability of the customers that they have to work with.
So I able to respect bar girls who knock back many potential customers.

I have witnessed a girl in the Thermae knock many guys but finally agree to go with me. Other times I have been knocked back. I respect their choosiness.

If you want sex for free, you just find a girl who is willing. Its as simple as that.
But don't look down on girls who need it as their profession in order to eat. Otherwise stay well away from them.

I have standards. I would never go with a girl unless I like her and think she is O.K. without necessarily being perfect. If she is a b****, then there is no way.

Perhaps you don't understand that many Thai P4Ps are supporting both parents and several brothers and sisters to get a better education.

You won't find many Thai guys supporting an entire family in this way. Many are just unreliable spongers.

When I pay good tip to a P4P, I am not taking advantage of her. I am giving a fair return for her excellent service. I am helping support her and her family. Could be supporting the higher education of her daughter.

Tourism and P4P is greatly helping redistribute wealth though BKK to all poorer regions of the country.

A girl is of bad character is she steals your money or swindles you by trickery. But if you both agree to have sex and agree on a fair price, there is no crime, there is no evil, there is no immorality, there is nothing bad. Its just a business arrangement.

The tricky part is in Thailand where business arrangements and personal relationships start to cross over and get blurred.
This doesn't happen in the Farang world much.

[Warbucks]

Moved to the proper board.....

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=822800#post822800

[GoodEnough]

Wrong again Mick. I don’t compare women fucking around with criminal acts just used it as an analogy. I think all people men, women who fuck around with reckless abandon including myself are also clinically sick especially those men who chase prostitutes. :DI think DW, that you're still a little wrapped up in what society and religion in the US define as "right" and "wrong" or perhaps moral and immoral would be better terms. If, however, you subscribe to the point of view that sex is not only thoroughly enjoyable, but absolutely normal, and that you're only doing what other men (maybe women too) wish they could be doing, you get over the perception of yourself as clinically ill extremely quickly. The fact is that, for most species, polyandry is normal, and monogamy for humans is essentially an invention of human society--primarily religion--developed in an effort to control sexuality and behavior. My rule is much simpler and less agonizing--if it feels good, and if I'm not hurting anyone by indulging in sex, and the young woman is a legal adult and consenting, then it's fine.

Just my take of course.

GE

[Forever69]

We all know the most expensive sex is with the wife.

That is why we all look for a cheap hooker.

We check ISG to find them.

[M P Lurker]

Moved to the proper board.....

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=822800#post822800
I'm too lazy to keep jumping threads.
I will agree that I am a sex addict and I only partially understand why.
I think only getting it once a month when married had something to do with it.

[Retired Army]

How did we get to this discussion of morality of prostitution?

The original arguement started when some totally uninformed dickhead made the statement that all Thai girls are wh*ores.

Nothing against the world's second oldest profession and some of the golden hearted providers of comfort to the lonely or sex deprived. Thank God for them!

[M P Lurker]

A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?

[Member #4147]

I say yes if she is in to you. The few I'm working now I have arrangements based on how many pops per day, how much photography I'm allowed, etc. This seems to keep them anxious to please in order for more thb. Sorry I haven't been posting much as the girls on TLL have been keeping me busy. Happy hour, Sheraton Grand, PM me. Have an extra phone number or 2. See for your self. Chok dee


A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?

[BKK Dreaming]

A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?

my thought is they never forget , if you like this girl , pay the old price ,

unless you tell her you are broke this trip and cannot afford her , even though you would love to take her,

make it her decision , then she does not lose face and you are the good guy for taking her,

I always like to have a couple "regulars" to call if the bars are closed or I am hiding out from a stalker !

[Member #3428]

A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?

On my limited foray away from the TGF during the airport shut down recently I found I got a lot more mileage and GFE out of paying the same amount as before. I could have gone lower easily and they would have been happy about it but the girls I saw who I saw before were just thankful to have me around during that time. Many would have been happy just to have a good meal IMHO but as I said these are girls I knew before and have their contact numbers and such.

This leads me to believe that when we go back in a few weeks the regulars we normally see will be very happy to see us come back. :D

The prices I heard quoted from girls I did not know at Cowboy and on some bars on Soi 33 were grossly inflated however. Mick your recent friend quoted a number so high to a guy I almost spit coke out my nose. But since I was with the TGF at those times I was in no position to even jokingly attempt to bargain as I surely was not going to be taking one of them home with us.

[Retired Army]

A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?

The regular girls I saw knew that I paid for performance. The greater my satisfaction the more "taxi" money they received. There never was any negotiation.

[M P Lurker]

Mick your recent friend quoted a number so high to a guy I almost spit coke out my nose. But since I was with the TGF at those times I was in no position to even jokingly attempt to bargain as I surely was not going to be taking one of them home with us.
Yes I am sure the starting price is going to be high but she told me she was not really an "expensive girl". But she will try it on, assuming I have guessed correctly who you refer to.

I am described as overly generous as I usually pay for LT about double the ST fee provided I get double the sex, and adjust lower if don't get another round in the morning (for some reason like girl has to go in a hurry happens occasionally). Others tell me double is far too much for LT, but I believe its reasonably fair.

I was thinking of dropping my ST offer by 500 and dropping LT by 1K, in view of difficult times and Aussie dollar now worth a lot less Baht than before.
I also vary my payment by the class of girl, level of competition, and how good she is. I don't believe in one standard fee for all.

Obviously I would expect very good discount though for a multi-day booking. As a girl can then be relaxed as she has a sure money supply for several days plus supplied meals, miscellaneous, etc.

[NicFrenchy]

The regular girls I saw knew that I paid for performance. The greater my satisfaction the more "taxi" money they received. There never was any negotiation.

Yes, this is exactly how I approach P4P also. Once you have set it very clear that you can pay more for "Better" service, the girl will really make every effort EVERYTIME, these girls are very smart and know which side of their bread is buttered.

Also, playing guessing games with a thai girl is pointless, if you give her 1,000 one day and 500 the other day because she did not perform as well, thinking she will understand the message, well, she might not always.
I find it is good to make it clear so she understands, then, it is easier for everyone.

[M P Lurker]

The regular girls I saw knew that I paid for performance. The greater my satisfaction the more "taxi" money they received. There never was any negotiation.
I agree. Girls that know me, never negotiate, and even first time girls rarely discuss the the price.
Many are not hardened enough to overcome shyness re price discussions. Must be that I am attracted to shyer (spelling?) type of girls at times.
Even Suzi Wong bar girls would go with me without discussing price. I obviously have a good reputation in this bar for fun and generosity and other things.

Ocassionally one will ask how much I want to pay for long time, for example. In that case I offer my low-end amount and she is usually satisfied and decides that amount is O.K. for X hours in her own mind. When she performs superbly, she gets an extra bonus. If she is crap then she would get politely ejected with the minimum.
Actually I rarely go LT with a new girl for me, unless I an really sure she is hot and the chemistry will work.

[Member #3428]

Yes I am sure the starting price is going to be high but she told me she was not really an "expensive girl". But she will try it on, assuming I have guessed correctly who you refer to......I was thinking of dropping my ST offer by 500 and dropping LT by 1K, in view of difficult times and Aussie dollar now worth a lot less Baht than before.....Obviously I would expect very good discount though for a multi-day booking. As a girl can then be relaxed as she has a sure money supply for several days plus supplied meals, miscellaneous, etc.

Multi Day or Multi Repeat can get you a very good rate now IMHO (unless you're my TGF :D ) And yes I think you are guessing who that other girl is correctly.

Personally I'm not sure about dropping the long term rate down but what do you consider long term?? I'd probably pay the same amount but expect 20 hours (if want her that long) and unlimited shots with a lot more options then before and no "bonus" money for other items that maybe you'd consider paying before.

If take a girl for 8 hours ( 10 pm to 6 am) then sure drop it down if she's not up for a full 8 hours of sexercise... But for me, I'm an early bird, used to grab them early in the evening and keep them around into the next afternoon.

[NicFrenchy]

I was thinking of dropping my ST offer by 500 and dropping LT by 1K, in view of difficult times and Aussie dollar now worth a lot less Baht than before.

That's possible. If you talk with the girl and you like her, just tell her what you are ready to pay and see what she says. Some girls might even agree to your (lower than their usual) price because they feel you will treat them well.

To some girls, being treated nicely is far more important than an extra quick 500. I know a girl at a SC Bar who told me that one Arab Customer of hers pays very well but then is very rough in the bedroom, she only goes with him because of the money. She also said that she quite often enjoy the company of some guys because they are funny, nice and gentle with her. She also did admit that more than once she hoped that some of these farangs would take her again, and not because of the money, but because being with them felt like she was not really a piece of meat.

You can find this girl in SHARK ;)

[Fon Tok]

I just spent a fun week in Bangkok (and have posted part of this on Giotto's thread), Chronologically it reads backward (huh?)

Yesterday, I thought I saw a tumbleweed on the motorway on the way to the airport...

Once at Suvarnabhumi I was informed that my 1:50 pm Air Asia flight to Krabi was canceled, (no e-mail or SMS). No information as to why, of course, but I suspect it was for lack of passengers. I then had to wait five hours for the next flight (which was about 3/4ths full). While killing time, I noticed on the schedule board that a number of domestic flights had been canceled. Somehow, by the grace of the travel gods I was back on Koh Lanta by 9 pm. Amazing Thailand!

Suvarnabhumi, the world's 18th busiest airport, was eerily quiet for December 10. In fact, I saw many more workers than travelers. No lines (ques for you non-yanks) even at the AA check-in counters. I saw no indication of the PAD takeover except for the dozen or so policemen sitting (sleeping?) under a tent at a checkpoint about 2km from the terminal. I wonder why they even bother to carry guns? I did hear, though, (from reliable unnamed sources close to the queen), that the PAD looted all the whiskey and smokes from the King Power shops.

Thailand is looking a lot more like drug-war addled Mexico as each day passes...

At the big motorway turn leading to the terminal I noticed that one of the biggest highway billboards is now blank, and the big flat screen TV ads are fading quickly. Lots of "For Rent" signs on buildings everywhere along the motorway. Many shops are closing in the busy Silom District, too.

Silom Road highs and lows...

Two nights ago at about 9 pm, I joined some friends for a drink at the trendy spendy Vbar at the big Sofitel Hotel on Silom Rd. . In the hotel lobby, there was no one other than employees when we walked in, and upstairs, just a few folks in the bar. Saw some great views of Bangkok from 37-floors above the quiet madness.

Later on, we went to the Cleo Beer Bar on Patpong Soi 2 (right outside the Star of Light). The ancient beer bar turned out to be way more fun than the Sofitel, (and the drinks were a lot cheaper). They've got a few cute & friendly, young girls there, (check out Khun Mai), beers at only 70-80 baht, and the bar fine (Cheap Charlie alert!) for Isaan's finest is only 400 baht. Conveniently, if you are impatient, bored and horny, SOL is right next door.

Saturday afternoon, I stopped by my favorite Silom Road massage shop, "Happy Massage," next to the deserted Narai Hotel. There were 10 girls working and so far that day there had been no customers. Before ascending to the 4th floor for my regular FS massage, (btw, I love Thailand), I gave Khun Net, (my favorite Happy lady), 500 baht to buy the shop girls dinner. That way, to my relief, all the lovely ladies with the sad, dark eyes were now theoretically happy and im lao (full), at least until the next meal (and they love me)! There are some cute young lassies waiting for customers there...check it out!

Fine dining...

One evening after I got a buzz-cut on Soi 5, we enjoyed a meal at the old lounge lizard's paradise, The Check-Inn. If you haven't been there, it's tucked back from the sidewalk on Sukhumvit btwn. Sois 5 & 7. Good steak, pretty Filipinas singing, and some MILF-type hostesses waiting for interested parties to take them away. My gig liked the tum yum kung and the Baileys on the rocks for dessert.

Another good meal was had at the non-descript Lek Seafood right next to the Chong Nonsi BTS Station. Squid, clams, fried fish -- it was all good & cheap (about 750 baht for 3 people with beers and tip)!

Wanna buy a watch?

Only bad part of the trip was learning that my favorite old Omega Seamaster (Sean Connery 007 model) is toast after blowing out the stem while diving at 25 meters below the Andaman Sea off of Palau Weh last month. The Omega shop wanted 11,000 baht to fix it (yikes -- three months and parts from Switzerland!). Maybe I can sell it for parts on eBay? Anyone know where to buy a watch in Bangkok?

I'll be back through the City of Angels in a week or so and I'm already looking forward to more fun and games. In the meantime, I need to walk a lot on the beach to work off the kilo I gained last week.

But, what will January bring? Lottery tickets? More Elections? Foreigner Kidnappings? Food Riots? Lower prices???

[M P Lurker]

In the meantime, I need to walk a lot on the beach to work off the kilo I gained last week.

Huh? :confused:
I put on weight when in Australia but lose weight when in Thailand.
If you are putting on weight, then that means not enough Sexercise. :D

(P.S. a BJ has no aerobic value and so you only lose a few grams of sperm temporarily :D)

Don't drink to much and have a girl for desert ;)

[NicFrenchy]

I had a meeting soi 19 yesterday and was only steps away from the sub soi of MAY Massage.

From last week's experience, the massage was pretty good so I decided to go and relax there again (Not thinking about Extras)

there was about 4 guys and 2 ladies waiting on the balconny when I arrived and they all greeted me with a deep smile.

I have no idea who May is but the same lady/cashier from last time was here (cute girl) and she remembered me: same last time?

I replied positively. It felt good to be recognised, little touches like this are priceless in building a good customers base. Bravo!

I was escorted to the Massage room and asked to strip. The lady I had was a little older (35?) not unpleasant looking and I did not ask her name so I do not know it.

Before the massage started she asked me how I wanted my massage: strong? "not strong" I asked.

The massage was very good, It really felt like she was inside my head! as freaky as this sounds. Everytime I got thinking that she could apply more pressure on a certai area (my lower back), she did without me saying a word.

I flipped over and she started to massage my arms, chest and then gave me a strong abdominal massage (a first for me) and I loved it! slowly but surely she made her way towards my groin and started a balls massage (a little painful) then a slow HJ.

I told her that I did not fancy a HJ (not enough time for me to enjoy and come) and she offered to extend the massage by 30 mn or 1 hour. I declined and asked if BJ was ok with her? (she is stroking my dick all this time we are talking). She hesitated and then said it was ok but with condom.

Although I declined, her attitude stayed very positive!

I took a shower in the VERY clean bathroom, got dressed and left.

I gave the lady 100 thb tip and, if this is the level of service and attitude MAY massage gives its customers then, I will certainly be back!!

[Goyave]

... A lot of guys on this website are in denial “I just fucked 10 different women today but I don't have a problem” ...I have a problem BECAUSE I haven't fucked 10 different women today.

Hello, my nickname is Goyave and I'm a sex addict.

[M P Lurker]

I had a meeting soi 19 yesterday and was only steps away from the sub soi of MAY Massage.

You couldn't decide which thread, BKK or BKK MPs?
Could consider "General" for vritually non-sexual posts LOL.
What about a sex oriented report. This plain massage stuff is getting a bit dull ;) but O.K. I know some readers are interested. What about the older lady you picked up ?

P.S. I PMed you on a SOL topic.

[Fon Tok]

Huh? :confused:I put on weight when in Australia but lose weight when in Thailand. If you are putting on weight, then that means not enough Sexercise.:D
I read recently that Aussies lead the world in obesity (outranking even us fat Yanks). Must be something in the diet Downunder? What do your people eat that makes them so fat?

Living in Thailand means I get all the sex I want all the time. I know it's rough, but some of us have to do it. Sorry Mick...I know you live for your "health" trips to the LOS.

My new gig likes to eat. By Thai women's standards, she's a big girl, (160cm; 62kg+/-), with very healthy appetites. I'm a big guy (186cm; 112kg), so it's nice to have a woman with some meat on her lovely bones. Sharing great meals after great sex is not a hardship. Absolutely no complaints here!

G'day mate!

[Travelling John]

Hello Fon Tok,

From a watch lover. 11, 000 Baht is very reasonable for the repair, since an overhaul typically costs a few hundred USD. Your Seamaster is worth well more than that. Plus, it's part of your life, I'm sure.

[M P Lurker]

I read recently that Aussies lead the world in obesity (outranking even us fat Yanks). Must be something in the diet Downunder? What do your people eat that makes them so fat?

That report was complete bullshit man.
Never believe what you read in the media.
We do have a lot of overweight people but not nearly by as much overweight as what you see in the US.
I have been to the US and I assure that we don't even come close to the size of yank people barrels where just two of them and the elevator is already full.
The US wins easily for extreme obsesity.
The US measurement standard was clearly much more lenient than the Australian study.
A fair proportion of Aus citizens are Asian which cuts down greatly on the proportion overweight people.

The US has all those people that need two seats on the plane. We don't. It is a shock for Aussies, when we walk the street in the US, the immense size of some.
Then you see all those normal sized americans and think, what happened to the others?

I am a few Kgs overweight but I admit what causes it is eating/drinking bad stuff and lack of exercise. I know how to fix it. Lots of sex!

[Traveler1234]

I agree. Girls that know me, never negotiate, and even first time girls rarely discuss the the price.
Many are not hardened enough to overcome shyness re price discussions. Must be that I am attracted to shyer (spelling?) type of girls at times.
Even Suzi Wong bar girls would go with me without discussing price. I obviously have a good reputation in this bar for fun and generosity and other things.

Mick - I don't think you're a representative example, giving you are fluent in Thai. And of course you act as a gentleman. These two characteristics aren't common in the monger community.....LOL

[Fon Tok]

That report was complete bullshit man.
Never believe what you read in the media.
We do have a lot of overweight people but not nearly by as much overweight as what you see in the US...Then you see all those normal sized americans and think, what happened to the others?...I am a few Kgs overweight but I admit what causes it is eating/drinking bad stuff and lack of exercise. I know how to fix it. Lots of sex!
I think I might have hit a raw (fat) nerve here?

Mick, I agree with you that Americans are a fat bunch, but percentage wise the Aussies may be fatter. There are over 300 million (legal) Americans and how many Aussies (25+/- million?). A quick Google check found the following...

From: Nutrition Australia, Obesity in Australia (2000)

"Recent studies show that 47% of women and 63% of men are overweight or obese. Australians are at the point where it is almost more "normal" to have a weight problem than not.

Over the last decade as a nation we have continued to gain weight. If the current trend continues, it is estimated that by 2010, 70% of Australians will be above their healthy weight range."

From: The Australian Gov't Institute of Health and Welfare Website

"How many Australian adults are overweight?

- The 1999-2000 Australian Diabetes, Obesity and Lifestyle Study indicated over seven million adult Australians aged 25 years and over (60%) were overweight. Of these, over two million (21%) were obese.

- Men were more likely than women to be overweight, with 67% of men compared with 52% of women (aged 25 years and over) being overweight.

- There have been significant increases in the proportions of overweight and obese Australians over the last 20 years. From 1980 to 1999-2000, for people aged 25-64 years, the proportion of overweight women increased from 27% to 47%, and the proportion of overweight men increased from 47% to 66%.

- On average, women in 1999 weighed 4.8 kg more than their counterparts in 1980, and men 3.6 kg more.

I suggest that many Americans and Australians would benefit from the standard Thai diet of fruits, vegetables and regular hot sex! I know I have.

[M P Lurker]

Mick - I don't think you're a representative example, giving you are fluent in Thai. And of course you act as a gentleman. These two characteristics aren't common in the monger community.....LOL
You have a good point. I find that people are shyer to say embrassing things in their own native language. So speaking Thai to me make make a girl shyer than when she speaks English.

On a Tangent:
Bar girls may swear in English saying things that they would never dare say in Thai.

[PauloThai]

Never believe what you read in the media.

We do have a lot of overweight people.

A fair proportion of Aus citizens are Asian which cuts down greatly on the proportion overweight people. It is a shock for Aussies.

I am a few Kgs overweight but I admit what causes it is eating/drinking bad stuff and lack of exercise. I know how to fix it. Lots of sex! Hi Mick,

I am sorry fot the Aussies, but FonTok is right!

All studies give the same outcome. This time Aussies obesity win!

Cheers

[M P Lurker]

Of these, over two million (21%) were obese.

When I look around me in Australia I do see a lot overweight but not many really huge.
So 21% obese is setting a very tough standard.

So where is the american figure?
The percentage of huge americans is way higher than here.

Maybe the 60% considered overweight here would not all be considered overweight in the US.
I am obviously in the overweight category but not in the top 21% of obese.

Anyway just look at all the tourists queuing up at Disneyland and most of them are large, even the young 20 year olds. Then compare to the relatively not so large hispanics working at Disneyland and surrounding area. Perhaps these hispanics are helping fix the american averages.

[Fon Tok]

So where is the american figure?..The percentage of huge americans is way higher than here...Anyway just look at all the tourists queuing up at Disneyland and most of them are large, even the young 20 year olds....
Disneyland? You mean Patpong?

OK, you win. Americans are fatter than Aussies! Next topic. OK?

Some stats...

From: American obesity skyrockets, 73% obese or overweight by 2008

The Centers for Disease control have released new numbers on obesity and the news isn't good: Americans are becoming more obese, faster, than when last measured.

- In the past year, the adult obesity rate rose in 48 of America's states, and nationally from 23.7% to 24.5%, Trust for America's Health found.

- In 10 states, over a quarter of adults are now obese...

- Currently, about 119 million, or 64.5%, of US adults are either overweight or obese.

- According to projections, 73% of US adults could be overweight or obese by 2008, Trust for America's Health warned.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4183086.stm

[Hummer Bird]

Why are you guys posting this shit? Back to Topic PLEASE!!!!!!

[LittleBigMan]

Not much but here it is.........

Prior to leaving Thailand to return back home for the holidays as usual was able to make a short side trip into BKK prior to catching the flight out the next day on the 8th.

After checking into the Nana, I got ready for my visit to Tulip, while walking to the BTS, and on the BTS, things seem quiet even for a Sunday. The shut down of the airport by the PAD really did a lot of damage. But not at Tulip just after 12 noon I was the third Farang at the desk waiting to get service. I got my regular and as always service was excellent. During our shower she ask if I would one day take her for a full day so we can go drinking and party. I ask how much and whether she wanted me to arrange it with her personally or with Tulip. She told me to arrange it with Tulip and that their fee was 3,000 and her's was going to be 6,000. In my mind I was thinking no way I was going to pay that amount for 1 girl no matter how good it was! When I didn't respond she started to BBBJ and LBM nearly said yes!

After being done with Tulip and although I always leave happy. I came away with a somewhat empty feeling that I needed more. Since I have been somewhat worn down physically and mentally I was hoping to get a good massage at Tulip with my regular girl but all she wanted was LBM. To me sex isn't everything getting a great oil massage first is my top priority these day. So I left empty and bored and wanted a challenge and a great massage. Massages was no problem so off to Soi 8, for a 2 hour Thai massage and a 1 hour foot massage. Now being relax and full of energy I walk across the street to the odd side of Sukhumvit and walked down to Soi 15, to the corner to get some Thai food but I was too late the place had just closed. I started to turn back and right in front of Thermae was 2 cuties waving me toward them. As always they thought I was Japanese, price quoted was high 3,000 and I made a joking choking sign and they both laugh and the price came down to 2,000. I declined and said if I return later and they were still there we would talk again about the price. As I start to leave they lower to 1500 but I smile and kept walking.

As I headed back down Sukhumvit to Soi 7, street not very crowded and the street vendors were very vocal trying to get me to buy things. I wanted to bring somethings back for the holidays but only came with a backpack since I was going standby from TPE to the States. Decide to make a visit to Biergarden and get something to eat as I was looking a the menu 2 girls both white skin started to talk to me. Once again they though I was Japanese of course our conversation was pretty much where I was going and so so. I told them I was hungry and if they wanted they could join me for dinner. During dinner I pretty much told them I just had sex ( double pop ) and if I were to take one of them after dinner the sex got to be good because I might not have much power. And if the service was not good I wasn't going to pay but this was said in a somewhat joking manner since I didn't want to blow the good mood we were having. The price started at 3,000 for LT but all I wanted was ST so final price was 1,000. Just to add the Biergarden wasn't full with plenty of seats for everyone. Real slow and I didn't have much problem getting the girls to come down in price. I decided to take the talker one with more meat on the hips. She was real cute and you could barely tell she had makeup on her face. A girl you could take home to your mother.

Service wasn't bad, she took a bath with me and gave me a pretty decend massage along with GFE. I got her number and told her next time I'm in town I'll give her a call. I walked her down to the lobby because I wanted to see how Angel Disco was doing. The guard seeing I was staying at the hotel allow me to take a look. They had done some relevation like moving the bar to the center and hired girls to dance at certain location throughout the disco but in the end the place was dead. The only way to bring back the crowd would to let people in for free.

To conclude on my one day! Bangkok was pretty much dead and one can clearly see the damage done by the airport shutting down. In my opinion no one has to overpay for anything if they are patient and there seem on this night lots of cute ones out! Just wait until all the numbers come in the beginning of the year with cancellations and the baht decline. It's going to be a free for all........

LBM

[PauloThai]

The massage was pretty good. All greeted me with a deep smile. Good to be recognised. Priceless. Massage was very good. Inside my head! As freaky as this sounds. I loved it! Her attitude stayed very positive! VERY clean bathroom. And left.

I gave the lady 100 thb tip and, if this is the level of service and attitude MAY massage gives its customers then, I will certainly be back! Hi Frenchy,

100 baht! They welcome you next time as Charlie!

Cheers

[NicFrenchy]

You couldn't decide which thread, BKK or BKK MPs?
Could consider "General" for vritually non-sexual posts LOL.

Yeah, I kinda fucked this one up LOL, I was trying to post it in the Massage Thread but accidentally posted it here. Can't be too bad, at Least, May will be happy about the Publicity.
I already am sure PauloThai will go there handing the ladies money to compensate for my tipping only 100thb for a massage without extras.


What about a sex oriented report. This plain massage stuff is getting a bit dull ;) but O.K. I know some readers are interested. What about the older lady you picked up ?

Hahaha, I did not stay with Blue balls for too long because right after May Massage I walked back to Soi 19's Luxury and fucked Miss Y silly... twice :D


P.S. I PMed you on a SOL topic.

Thanks, I got it and replied ;)

[Fon Tok]

Why are you guys posting this shit? Back to Topic PLEASE!!!!!!
Cool your jets, bucko! Just a couple of ISG guys chewing the "fat." It did start with a Bangkok trip report...where's yours?

[Gagoo]

There are a lot of Thai girls who are not *****s.....All around Bangkok and all around Thailand. Us Foreigners just seem to love the ***** and ***** areas. If you are white you have a better shot then most in landing a decent Thai lady...

Not trying to start a flame war but my two...

When it comes to P4P in Thailand I am well over 3 digits for the number of girls I have had.

As for free sex in Thailand I am well into the double digits. I have met many Thai women online and meet them and have free sex with them. I must say I hurt some of their feelings though, but I got some free sex and treated them well when I was with them. Some of them I saw every time I came to Thailand and had all the sex I could handle for free, but I still had to get away and do some mongering too. So far I have scored 100% with girls if I take them out drinking and dancing. Yeah, have to spend money on drinks and food, but they always go to my hotel and have sex like it was already the plan. Many times those girls are available to me whenever I am in Thailand.

I was in Bangkok a few months ago and I decided to see if I could get some freebies online. One good looking girl wanted to see me ASAP. Took her out for drinks, dancing, then I said I have to go back to my hotel and fly tomorrow. She asked if I wanted her to go, we did and had sex for no money.

I kept in touch with her and even bought her a plane ticket for her to see me, ( I moved to a place where Thai's can visit without a prior Visa) she's at my house as I speak while I'm at work. I told her that we should be 100% honest with each other. A couple days ago I asked her how man men she met online and had sex with like me. Well.. I was really surprised by her answer. She said way too many guys for her to remember. So, as you see, there are plenty off freebies to be had from girls online and wherever a girl smile back at you. I've got the feeling that if a Thai women likes you they want to give you sex to make you happy and have feelings for them. One nurse in Thailand told me that too. She said she wanted to have some drinks because she new she wanted to make me happy by giving me sex, but she was a little shy. I met her online also. It was great that she bought me roses, first time a woman bought be flowers, and gave me a ride from Bangkok to Pattaya in her new car. Anyways, look online and if you find a nurse, definately go for it.

[Gagoo]

Disneyland? You mean Patpong?

OK, you win. Americans are fatter than Aussies! Next topic. OK?

Some stats...

From: American obesity skyrockets, 73% obese or overweight by 2008

The Centers for Disease control have released new numbers on obesity and the news isn't good: Americans are becoming more obese, faster, than when last measured.

- In the past year, the adult obesity rate rose in 48 of America's states, and nationally from 23.7% to 24.5%, Trust for America's Health found.

- In 10 states, over a quarter of adults are now obese...

- Currently, about 119 million, or 64.5%, of US adults are either overweight or obese.

- According to projections, 73% of US adults could be overweight or obese by 2008, Trust for America's Health warned.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4183086.stm


I'm not obese; maybe I'd like to lose about 15 pounds. Anyways, I find many Thai women like guys that are a little overweight. Not obese, but a little overweight is good for them. Many Thai ladies said I'm pom pui, then they say they like that.

Besides, Thailand is great because old, obese, ugly, bald men can have sex with a really hot looking women. So no need for a who's more obese war on the forum.

[LittleBigMan]

Gagoo,

I understand your post very well, glad you are having a time of your life. But nothing is free! " drinking and dancing " " Buying a airplane ticket " Whether you meet them in a bar or online they are taking time to make a investment.

From my experience I have been told by many Chinese girls and Thai because I have a couple of overweight friends who I have traveled with from years back. The questions is why did they hook up with my overweight buddies? The answer was as you can see you don't have to worry about going hungry.

Enjoy! LBM

[BKK Dreaming]

Many Thai ladies said I'm pom pui, then they say they like that.

B

yeah they say what we want to hear , and I eat it up :)

BK

[Member #3428]

Many Thai ladies said I'm pom pui, then they say they like that.

Don't waste any time thinking about it, compared to many (most) thai ladies we are all pom pui... I dropped over 40 kilo and am still pom pui :( to them...

It's amazing... to them I was handsum man before and I am still handsum man now :D Gotta love their sweet mouths...

[Retired Army]

The questions is why did they hook up with my overweight buddies? The answer was as you can see you don't have to worry about going hungry.




That's exactly correct. In Thai think if you are overweight it means you can afford to buy lots of rice.

I hate to tell them that my weight is from beer, not rice.

[NicFrenchy]

I find many Thai women like guys that are a little overweight. Not obese, but a little overweight is good for them. Many Thai ladies said I'm pom pui, then they say they like that.

Hahahahaha, so they got you fooled eh? Next thing you will tell us they prefer men over 60?

No offense but, what a Thai girl tells you and what she realy thinks are two very different things. They are very good at polishing Egoes.

I can bet you that while your "Pompui" lover tell you she loves you and you look great, she thinks about the 6 packs of her Thai boyfriend.
Thai girls prefer slim, Well dressed and Clean shaven men; now I said it's what they prefer, not what they end up with.

[Daddy07]

Hahahahaha, so they got you fooled eh? Next thing you will tell us they prefer men over 60?...
Gee ... that's exactly what they tell me, and I believe them. :D

They have good judgment!

[M P Lurker]

Hahahahaha, so they got you fooled eh? Next thing you will tell us they prefer men over 60?

No offense but, what a Thai girl tells you and what she realy thinks are two very different things. They are very good at polishing Egoes.

I can bet you that while your "Pompui" lover tell you she loves you and you look great, she thinks about the 6 packs of her Thai boyfriend.
Thai girls prefer slim, Well dressed and Clean shaven men; now I said it's what they prefer, not what they end up with.
Its true Nic. Many Thai girls prefer older men. In general, they are not considerate and do more pampering of the girl to make her feel important.

Younger men are more arrogant and more likely to be full of themselves.

Plenty of really young guys are viewed by girls as just "dickheads".

[Easy2007]

Its true Nic. Many Thai girls prefer older men. In general, they are not considerate and do more pampering of the girl to make her feel important.

Younger men are more arrogant and more likely to be full of themselves. Asian girls prefer older men, and although that pisses off some of the arrogant younger men to the point they refuse to beleive it, its true.

I find it vey funny when people try to know what Thai girls think and do, as if there is some book on it, and it follows a strict pattern.

Try guessing what US girls think off, what they like and people soon say its all varied and no pattern. And Thai's are just the same.

The trouble is you are asking mongers for their opinions, and their opinions are biased as they expose themselves too much to "bad girls".

Each and every girl, in every country, of every race, is an individual. Get over it.

[Aslan]

Met this girl on a university exchange three years ago in the U.S. and have been coming to Thailand to see her since then. Usually I get a hotel, but this time I stayed a few days at a house she rents with two of her biological sisters and a pain in the ass dog. During my trip my girl has to work a few days at the local bank and I get to stay at the apartment. On the second day her sister came into the bedroom while I was laying down watching tv and went from sitting on the edge of the bed to laying down to touching me though we've never even shaken hands. She was talking about how beautiful my girl was and asking if I thought she was beautiful too.

I got the hell out of there before I made a mistake and I'm wondering if anyone out there has ever nailed your Thai girlfriend's sister? My girl seems sort of hurt if I talk to another female more than her or pay too much attention to them even if they are family. I thought getting it on with her sister probably wouldn't go over very well.

[NicFrenchy]

I got the hell out of there before I made a mistake and I'm wondering if anyone out there has ever nailed your Thai girlfriend's sister?

You did well. For all you know, they set it up to test you or the sisters had a quarell and one of them needed leverage to make the other mad.

Keeping your Johnson in your pants might save your life in such situations (and I am not exagerating, Thai people have the "knife" very easy).

If you want to fuck around, there are plenty of venue where you can do so... secretly and quietly.

[NicFrenchy]

Its true Nic. Many Thai girls prefer older men. In general, they are not considerate and do more pampering of the girl to make her feel important.

Younger men are more arrogant and more likely to be full of themselves.

I know... many of my giks told me so. Fuck! I need to wait another 20 years :(

[M P Lurker]

I got the hell out of there before I made a mistake and I'm wondering if anyone out there has ever nailed your Thai girlfriend's sister? My girl seems sort of hurt if I talk to another female more than her or pay too much attention to them even if they are family. I thought getting it on with her sister probably wouldn't go over very well.
Could be the sister was testing you. You don't want to fall for temptation traps. Be nice and paak waan but don't touch her.

[Rikusa]

I know... many of my giks told me so. Fuck! I need to wait another 20 years :(

Have many thai ladies tell me "Love old farang, Die quick, No power" Dont let them kid you. Money is all they care about and returning to thai boyfriends. Thought these comments funny coming you 2 considering your the best most informed posters here! (besides the late old thai hand)

Staying here for the month and enjoying cool weather and empty venues. Prices are good and hotel cheaper only if you ask.

GP is 1700 exec studio with breakfast and wifi daily, Not locked into the monthly stay, so I can move around as I feel.

[M P Lurker]

Have many thai ladies tell me "Love old farang, Die quick, No power" Dont let them kid you. Money is all they care about and returning to thai boyfriends. Thought these comments funny coming you 2 considering your the best most informed posters here! (besides the late old thai hand)

Don't let them kid you too!
With all that Vit V around, its now a ancient myth that older guys die quick. My discussions with MP girls suggest its mainly younger guys that pop real quick, but not being a working girl, I will never know the full truth. Because the older guys are more considerate they do not bang the girl as hard and that is good for the girl too.

P4P girls prefer older guys for their customers. You gave some additional reasons to support that view. Sure they want big money from a nice guy.
Yes some of them support lazy Thai BFs but not all are that stupid. Others have lazy Thai brothers sponging off the family to pay for their women and gambling.

Remember that sometimes we are just stirring. But we know what goes on after all this time.

But do your own survey of P4P bargirls. Do they like young "punks" or middle aged guys or geriatrics? I reakon the middle aged guys might just win it, even if its because the young ones are stingy.

[Spider916]

Hi Guys

This week I visited Hollywood carousel (nep 3rd floor) for the first time in months. They were reasonably busy and had some nice girls doing shows.

When I came back to the hognam, I noticed that there was a second drink slip in my bin. It was for a 230 bath tequilla, which I didn't order. When I asked the waitress about it, she apologized and said it was for the guy on the next table, more than 5 meters away, and put the slip in his bin. In the following discussion between two waitresses I heard the word Mauw (=drunk) several times, however my thai is not good enough to understand the whole discussion between them. Now I could have been a honest mistake but I think they tried to inflate my bill and that one waitress was telling the other to only try this stunt with guys that are drunk and won't notice. When the waitresses were gone, a bg who watched the scene, came over and told me to be careful with my bin in there as there had been problems in the past.

I will certainly not go back to Hollywood Carousel anytime soon.

Cheers

[Amjeck]

But do your own survey of P4P bargirls. Do they like young "punks" or middle aged guys or geriatrics? I reakon the middle aged guys might just win it, even if its because the young ones are stingy.

I've found that the younger "newbies" tend to like the younger guys b/c they really don't understand the financial aspect to p4p yet. The older or more experienced girls tend to go for the older guys b/c that is where the money is.

[Daddy07]

I've found that the younger "newbies" tend to like the younger guys b/c they really don't understand the financial aspect to p4p yet. The older or more experienced girls tend to go for the older guys b/c that is where the money is.
Here's what I think:

They tell the young guys that they like young guys best.

They tell the middle aged guys that they like middle aged guys best.

They tell the old guys that they like older guys best.

I'm an older guy and I've never heard one of them say that they like younger guys, and I bet they never tell young studs like Nic Frenchy that they like older guys better.

In short, they will tell you what you want to hear.

It's good for business.

[M P Lurker]

I've found that the younger "newbies" tend to like the younger guys b/c they really don't understand the financial aspect to p4p yet. The older or more experienced girls tend to go for the older guys b/c that is where the money is.
Very true. The girl is new to the bar. She doesn't go with customers yet, unless, they are real spunks and she fancies them 25-30 YOs. After a while, she goes more often. She tries some older guys 40-50 that look good and are very nice to her. She finds they are more generous, more into her than into themselves, and really not so bad. Soon she starts finding she actually prefers the older guys. She makes more money and they are more experienced in bed. They treat her with more respect. After a while she starts avoiding the young arrogant or stingy ones and only goes goes with young guys if they show humility and generosity.

This is not every girl, but I certaintly know such a girl.
When she first saw me she thought I was aloof and there was no way she would consider me. After buying her a drink or two and chatting, she thought perhaps I was O.K. after all. After she went with me for the night, she was soon wanting to see me every night.
It doesn't matter what girls prefer, we have the power to make them consider something else.

So, in the end, I don't care if a girl generally prefers young guys. She can always make an exception for me.
Most girls can't actually guess how old I am anyway.

[Fon Tok]

Here's what I think: In short, they will tell you what you want to hear. It's good for business.
Just like the often heard, "Thai man no good!"

I do think that a lot of older (say 27yo+) P4P workers are looking for a way out of the business and see a middle-aged or older farang as a better chance at making the break once and for-all. They also see (some) middle-aged Thai men as social examples, providing more security than their younger counterparts.

Then, of course, I've been told by some of my Thai women friends that when faced with a marriage ultimatum, some Thai men will choose their boyfriends (butt brothers) over their long time girlfriends.

[Gagoo]

Hahahahaha, so they got you fooled eh? Next thing you will tell us they prefer men over 60?

No offense but, what a Thai girl tells you and what she realy thinks are two very different things. They are very good at polishing Egoes.

I can bet you that while your "Pompui" lover tell you she loves you and you look great, she thinks about the 6 packs of her Thai boyfriend.
Thai girls prefer slim, Well dressed and Clean shaven men; now I said it's what they prefer, not what they end up with.


I think I like to be around Thai ladies for the ego boost. Now I have had one live with me for 3 weeks now, she suggests I should start going to the gym again. I was going to the gym before she got here.

She saw some porn on my ipod and was laughing while watching, then I took her to my computer and should her a large selection of porn. She does like to say that that man has sexy body, and at the same time say that woman has a pretty pussy. So, yeah, she would really prefer one of those porn studs with the hardcore bodies.

I like to show her all the anal videos to show her, it ain't so bad.
I think I have her convinced she is going to let me do her in the butt for Christmas. As she said, she had no money to buy me something, what can I do? hehe.. I said I want to do her in the butt, I said I never did that before... a small lie.

Anways, yeah, I think the prefer the studs, but have sweet mouths to make the customers, or men happy. But after so many years of hearing I like pom pui men, I think I just about believe it. I have also heard the " he is fat, so he has money to buy food" story.

[Retired Army]

I was going to the gym before she got here.




You can't just go to the gym, you actually have to lift weights or something ;)

[Retired Army]

I do think that a lot of older (say 27yo+) P4P workers are looking for a way out of the business and see a middle-aged or older farang as a better chance at making the break once and for-all. They also see (some) middle-aged Thai men as social examples, providing more security than their younger counterparts.




At 27 a Thai girl's "sell by date" has long passed. Thai men are looking for 17 year old virgins to marry.

[Retired Army]

Hi Guys

This week I visited Hollywood carousel (nep 3rd floor) for the first time in months. They were reasonably busy and had some nice girls doing shows.

When I came back to the hognam, I noticed that there was a second drink slip in my bin. It was for a 230 bath tequilla, which I didn't order. When I asked the waitress about it, she apologized and said it was for the guy on the next table, more than 5 meters away, and put the slip in his bin. In the following discussion between two waitresses I heard the word Mauw (=drunk) several times, however my thai is not good enough to understand the whole discussion between them. Now I could have been a honest mistake but I think they tried to inflate my bill and that one waitress was telling the other to only try this stunt with guys that are drunk and won't notice. When the waitresses were gone, a bg who watched the scene, came over and told me to be careful with my bin in there as there had been problems in the past.

I will certainly not go back to Hollywood Carousel anytime soon.

Cheers


You should never run a "tab" in any of these places. Always pay for each round as it's delivered. That way they never make "mistakes."

[Goyave]

At 27 a Thai girl's "sell by date" has long passed. Thai men are looking for 17 year old virgins to marry.Even younger: 15 year-old is the age of consent here.

But the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act disallows any sexual contact with prostitutes under the age of 18.

[Retired Army]

Even younger: 15 year-old is the age of consent here.

But the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act disallows any sexual contact with prostitutes under the age of 18.


Are you sure it's 15? It used to be 13, and then 15 and I thought it was recently raised to 17 or 18. But, perhaps, I am confusing the age of consent with the Prostitution Act. I will have to ask my wife what is now the current age of consent.

[LittleBigMan]

Nic, got it right! I believe this was a test. Regardless if it was or not you made the right move! Although tempting!

Women thinking in Thailand isn't as open as in Western world. I have found out having women friends in Thailand is a no no! No such thing from my experience. I had a women talk to me and I wouldn't f--k her with your dick and I didn't think my wife even saw us talking but when I went into the house I got a grilling.

LBM

[Goyave]

Are you sure it's 15? It used to be 13, and then 15 and I thought it was recently raised to 17 or 18. But, perhaps, I am confusing the age of consent with the Prostitution Act. I will have to ask my wife what is now the current age of consent.As far as I know, yes, it's 15. Several sources

(Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia) for instance and for what it's worth) still mention the same age of consent in Thailand. And last year, I was a guest at a "common law" marriage in an I-San village: the bride was 15 and the groom 20.

But it is also said that "from the Penal Code Amendment Act of 1997 Section 283bis, having sex with child under 18 is a compoundable offense even with the consent of that person. The parent or the child may file charge against the other side if he or she later regrets his or her own action. This ostensibly makes the Thai unfettered age of consent 18."

Looks like it's officially 15, unless parents complain. Anyway, it's 18+ to be safe in case of a P4P intercourse.

By the way, the now 16-year old girl is already pregnant. Maybe it is a case of Immaculate Conception because nobody put her husband in jail. ;)

[Knobrm]

Spent few days in Bangkok mongering earlier this week, after about half a year since previous round.

One thing that bothers me is that the quality of ladies at least in places where I used to go has been substantially reduced compared to few years back. Until couple of years ago, I used to stop by in BKK every couple of month or so for short breaks, mostly going to Nana disco, CM2 and Soi 7 beer garden, with occasional jump to GoGos. Nana disco, and the parking lot
after disco was closed, used to have good supply of good looking, eager ladies, both pro's and also freelancers especially on weekends.

My observations this week are quite a bit different; Angles disco has barely any people, and parking lot quantity and quality is down too. Beergarden in Soi 7 only has almost only the old ugly ones left; students and freelances who used to come in weekend afternoons for some extra money are gone. Even in CM2 I think quality of local talent has come down, taken over by russians who I am not interested a bit. Spice club in Soi 11 had few decent ones - but guy to gal ratio was not favourable, especially if looking for better looking ladies only. Some GoGo's seemed to have decent quality girls, but think places with beauties are also fewer than they used to be; I am not a GoGo guy though, prefer the more "natural" approach in discos bars, and even streets and parking lots.

Those of you living locally, do you know what has happened? This country must have beatuful gilrs as it did before - but where are they; are the some new places where these gals would go instead of the places that used to be good hunting grounds before?

Knob

[Daddy07]

...Those of you living locally, do you know what has happened? This country must have beatuful gilrs as it did before - but where are they; are the some new places where these gals would go instead of the places that used to be good hunting grounds before?

Knob
Perhaps they've all gone to Pattaya. There is no end to them here.

Low season; the recent political crisis; the airport closing -- nothing has diminished the supply of pretty girls here. Reports on this forum of late are even describing many cuties plying their trade on Beach Road and soi 6.

I see dozens of them on Walking Street every time I visit, and there are dozens more in the go-go's, beer bars and discos. Maybe they have all discovered that Bangkok is a pit and Pattaya is the place to be.

[PinkPearl]

At 27 a Thai girl's "sell by date" has long passed. Thai men are looking for 17 year old virgins to marry.My very best regulars are 27 and older, but as small and Asian they could easily pass for much younger looking, say 17 to 22.

From the NEP area recently i picked up a 21 YO SW with braces on her teeth who looked like an 8th grader.

A 17 year old TG would look around 12 by Western Standards.

[NicFrenchy]

Perhaps they've all gone to Pattaya. There is no end to them here.

That's a possibility because I have to agree, the Talent in Bangkok is getting weaker and weaker

[M P Lurker]

As far as I know, yes, it's 15. Several sources

(Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia) for instance and for what it's worth) still mention the same age of consent in Thailand. And last year, I was a guest at a "common law" marriage in an I-San village: the bride was 15 and the groom 20.

But it is also said that "from the Penal Code Amendment Act of 1997 Section 283bis, having sex with child under 18 is a compoundable offense even with the consent of that person. The parent or the child may file charge against the other side if he or she later regrets his or her own action. This ostensibly makes the Thai unfettered age of consent 18."

Looks like it's officially 15, unless parents complain. Anyway, it's 18+ to be safe in case of a P4P intercourse.

By the way, the now 16-year old girl is already pregnant. Maybe it is a case of Immaculate Conception because nobody put her husband in jail. ;)
Yes but a working girl has to be 18 and some places only take 20+

[M P Lurker]

You should never run a "tab" in any of these places. Always pay for each round as it's delivered. That way they never make "mistakes."
This is a bit impractical unless very few drinks. Its enough to check each bill slip, normally and add up yourself before you pay. I don't have much hassle at Soi Cowboy.
Pat Pong is definitely the major rip off area.

[Goyave]

Yes but a working girl has to be 18... Sure. I wrote it two times (in my previous posts in this thread).


and some places only take 20+If I am not mistaken, it's the case for all the patrons (but not for the waiters / waitress apparently) in places where alcohol beverages are on sale. It seems that it's not always enforced though.

[M P Lurker]

So, yeah, she would really prefer one of those porn studs with the hardcore bodies.
.
Thai girls like a guy with good toned body but not so much the huge musclebound steroidal guys in American Porn.

Some girls strangely like ciddly guys. Not sure why? I don't like ciuddly girls.

[Member #3428]

This is a bit impractical unless very few drinks. Its enough to check each bill slip, normally and add up yourself before you pay. I don't have much hassle at Soi Cowboy.
Pat Pong is definitely the major rip off area.

There are some on 33 that are a shady as well, no area is perfect. Basically there are some bars at all venue's that can be a little more of a risk for the check bin then others...

[Lone Punter]

This is a bit impractical unless very few drinks. Its enough to check each bill slip, normally and add up yourself before you pay. I don't have much hassle at Soi Cowboy.

Pat Pong is definitely the major rip off area.Noble gents,

Got ripped off 3 years ago at Sheba's. Paid with 1000 TB bill, got the change for 500 TB. Protests were totally useless. Important always to stress: These are 1000 TB. They will try to trick the next one.

Other topic: my thai gf is slow to come. Want to help with a small vibrator but I never saw any places where sex toys were on sale. Not on Suk road, Patbong or Pantip. Any advice?

LP

[Flyhere]

...Those of you living locally, do you know what has happened? This country must have beatuful gilrs as it did before - but where are they; are the some new places where these gals would go instead of the places that used to be good hunting grounds before?
The bar girls earn a salary, so as a cost cutting measure due to the lack of customers, the girls are asked to stay home, and mamasan will call if there are enough customers. Same with the soapies, except they don't have a salary, still they're staying home and only come in when mamasan calls.

Some use the chance to visit family up country. Not sure about the freelancers, but for sure there are a lot more of them hanging around along Sukhumvit now, some even decent looking, except some of them are LB for sure, so I wouldn't risk it.

Some jump at the chance of travelling with a regular to Phuket, Samui, etc. for a few days.

PS. Just came back from the weekend in Hua Hin. The bars near the Hilton hotel are dead dead, practically empty, every single one. Only this one bar has 3 customers on the entire street block.

[Flyhere]

...Some girls strangely like cuddly guys. Not sure why? I don't like cuddly girls.
That's the secret Mick. Cudlyness (fat??) is a sign of wealth and generousity! It's not young guys or old guys, the cuddly guys have more money ;) and give more.

How else can I explain why my favorite dropped me? I'm old and generous, everyone at this place knows it, but I'm not cudly enough!

[Old Thai Hand]

A 17 year old TG would look around 12 by Western Standards.

I read this and had to respond with an anecdote, because I found this funny and oh-so-true.

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.

[Daddy07]

I read this and had to respond with an anecdote, because I found this funny and oh-so-true.

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.
I've heard of bold nanny waitresses lecturing and refusing to bring a glass of wine to a pregnant woman.

No matter how young your GF looked, she surely didn't resemble a little child who might enjoy a set of crayons. Did it occur to you that the waitress was trying to insult you for 'robbing the cradle'?

[Terry Terrier]

I've heard of bold nanny waitresses lecturing and refusing to bring a glass of wine to a pregnant woman.

No matter how young your GF looked, she surely didn't resemble a little child who might enjoy a set of crayons. Did it occur to you that the waitress was trying to insult you for 'robbing the cradle'?
I've seen a Thai woman who was clearly (to me) in her thirties asked for ID in a supermarket in the UK, and I've also been out socialising with friends who included a Thai woman who is 29 and her 9yo daughter and witnessed a stranger referring to the Thai woman's daughter as her younger sister :D.

[Goyave]

I read this and had to respond with an anecdote, because I found this funny and oh-so-true.

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.A Thai woman that I know visited France when she was 22 year old. She bought some clothes, but had to go in the children section in the shops and department stores. Her French size then was 10 year old for skirts and pants, 13 year old for tops and shirts!

[Opebo]

Those of you living locally, do you know what has happened? This country must have beatuful gilrs as it did before - but where are they; are the some new places where these gals would go instead of the places that used to be good hunting grounds before?

Obviously quality is drastically, shockingly down compared to say 6-10 years ago, even with the slight uptick recently due to the economic downturn. Quite simply, the prettier girls are not available to farangs in a better economic environment, because if at all possible they prefer to either 1) remain respectable, or 2) only service Thai men and avoid the despised farang.

This is basically the same pattern that has repeated itself in Asian country after Asian country - many decades ago Japan, in the last couple of decades South Korea, and now the last domino to fall, Thailand. The world darkens, our options draw in, and we are lost gentlemen.

But as to how to deal with it for now, Knobrm, just get used to being serviced by older, unattractive women. That's what I've done.

[M P Lurker]

I've seen a Thai woman who was clearly (to me) in her thirties asked for ID in a supermarket in the UK, and I've also been out socialising with friends who included a Thai woman who is 29 and her 9yo daughter and witnessed a stranger referring to the Thai woman's daughter as her younger sister :D.
I have never been asked for Id even when I was younger. Went to disco in Australia with 40 Kg Thai girl and she was asked to show her Id at the age of 37.

[NicFrenchy]

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.

Canadians aren't the brightest tools in the Box. When I was there for a week, I used to buy my cigarettes from the same Vendor every morning and Every morning the lady asked me for my ID.

[Warbucks]

Canadians aren't the brightest tools in the Box. When I was there for a week, I used to buy my cigarettes from the same Vendor every morning and Every morning the lady asked me for my ID.

Damn Nick that was cold-blooded. I laughed like hell at this one. LOL :D

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cold%20blooded

[Betong]

Do they like young "punks" or middle aged guys or geriatrics?When I was in my 20s they almost all said they loved young guys. Now that I'm over twice that age, they assure me that they really like guys in their 40s and 50s. And I have no doubt that in ten years they're going to reveal that they actually prefer guys in their 60s.

Sorry, call me a cynic . . . .

[Retired Army]

As far as I know, yes, it's 15. Several sources

(Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia) for instance and for what it's worth) still mention the same age of consent in Thailand. And last year, I was a guest at a "common law" marriage in an I-San village: the bride was 15 and the groom 20.

But it is also said that "from the Penal Code Amendment Act of 1997 Section 283bis, having sex with child under 18 is a compoundable offense even with the consent of that person. The parent or the child may file charge against the other side if he or she later regrets his or her own action. This ostensibly makes the Thai unfettered age of consent 18."

Looks like it's officially 15, unless parents complain. Anyway, it's 18+ to be safe in case of a P4P intercourse.

By the way, the now 16-year old girl is already pregnant. Maybe it is a case of Immaculate Conception because nobody put her husband in jail. ;)

What this means is: the age of consent is 18 unless you have money to pay off the parents and then it's 15.

[Retired Army]

This is basically the same pattern that has repeated itself in Asian country after Asian country - many decades ago Japan, in the last couple of decades South Korea, and now the last domino to fall, Thailand. The world darkens, our options draw in, and we are lost gentlemen.

But as to how to deal with it for now, Knobrm, just get used to being serviced by older, unattractive women. That's what I've done.


Or you will just have to pay more and use upscale escort agencies which, by Western standards, are extremely cheap.

[Retired Army]

Canadians aren't the brightest tools in the Box.

What about the sharpest bulb in the chandelier?

[Retired Army]

I read this and had to respond with an anecdote, because I found this funny and oh-so-true.

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.


Where have you been? We were worried and missed your expert observations of Thai, or lack of, culture.:)

[Professor 1]

Yes but a working girl has to be 18 and some places only take 20+

Regardless of what another country allows, U.S. citizens may be prosecuted in the U.S. if the girl is less than 18. Do not risk it.

[Retired Army]

Regardless of what another country allows, U.S. citizens may be prosecuted in the U.S. if the girl is less than 18. Do not risk it.


Yes, that is true.

[BionicMan]

I read this and had to respond with an anecdote, because I found this funny and oh-so-true.

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.
lucky you that you did not leave the place hands in hands...she'd call the police as a pervert was in the neighbourhood!

[BionicMan]

When I was in my 20s they almost all said they loved young guys. Now that I'm over twice that age, they assure me that they really like guys in their 40s and 50s. And I have no doubt that in ten years they're going to reveal that they actually prefer guys in their 60s.

Sorry, call me a cynic . . . . no no..call you (from their perspection): walking ATM, lol

[Canyon]

Opebo,

I've been going to Bangkok since 2000, and I've found the quality to be about the same now as it's been for the past eight years. There are, however, fluctuations. One trip, the quality wil be good, the next trip it will be mediocre and the trip after that, the quality will be excellent. For me, the quality on the last trip was as high as it's ever been, and as Mick can testify, I'm quite picky. It does, however, take patience and research to find good quality girls. Sometimes when I go into BG 7, Thermae, Gulliver's or CM2, I'll see no girls that meet my standards. I just walk in, walk around, then move on to the next place. If I keep on looking, I almost always find someone good. The same thing applies to soapies. Recently Mick and I went to Utopia (usually a good place), but we didn't find anyone we liked. We left and went to Tarawadee and both of us ended up finding someone acceptable. Right now, Tulip has some of the best-looking girls with the best service that they have ever had.

My view is that it makes no sense to bemoan the state of the girls in Bangkok. There are some great ones out there. It just takes some planning and patience to find them.



Obviously quality is drastically, shockingly down compared to say 6-10 years ago, even with the slight uptick recently due to the economic downturn. Quite simply, the prettier girls are not available to farangs in a better economic environment, because if at all possible they prefer to either 1) remain respectable, or 2) only service Thai men and avoid the despised farang.

This is basically the same pattern that has repeated itself in Asian country after Asian country - many decades ago Japan, in the last couple of decades South Korea, and now the last domino to fall, Thailand. The world darkens, our options draw in, and we are lost gentlemen.

But as to how to deal with it for now, Knobrm, just get used to being serviced by older, unattractive women. That's what I've done.

[Cunning Stunt]

Where have you been? We were worried and missed your expert observations of Thai, or lack of, culture.:)

Maybe OTH should change his handle to The Scarlet Pimpernel ;).

One of the things that was guaranteed to wind up my wife, when we first moved to UK, was the way that people assumed that she was Chinese. She used to come home fuming as kids had been taunting her with cries of 'chinky, chinky'. I used to think it as funny as hell, as my wife is a Filipina and looks as much Chinese as I do an Eskimo :D.

[M P Lurker]

I've been going to Bangkok since 2000, and I've found the quality to be about the same now as it's been for the past eight years.
I think its true that he can't get the same quality as 10 years ago for the same price he paid 10 years ago ;) LOL

[NicFrenchy]

One of the things that was guaranteed to wind up my wife, when we first moved to UK, was the way that people assumed that she was Chinese. She used to come home fuming as kids had been taunting her with cries of 'chinky, chinky'. I used to think it as funny as hell, as my wife is a Filipina and looks as much Chinese as I do an Eskimo :D.

Unfortunately, most people are still ignorant about Asia. In France, I am not even sure if people can cite 5 asian countries if asked spontaneously! Given our History, Vietnam should come first, Thailand and Filippines are easy to guess and China + Japan are obvious.

Last year I was in Paris and I realised that mentalities did not change: if you are Asian, you are Chinese. Not that they would be able to differentiate, they just don't care.

[Daddy07]

Unfortunately, most people are still ignorant about Asia. In France, I am not even sure if people can cite 5 asian countries if asked spontaneously! Given our History, Vietnam should come first, Thailand and Filippines are easy to guess and China + Japan are obvious.

Last year I was in Paris and I realised that mentalities did not change: if you are Asian, you are Chinese. Not that they would be able to differentiate, they just don't care.
Yep. Those Frenchmen aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. ;)

[Goyave]

Unfortunately, most people are still ignorant about Asia. In France, I am not even sure if people can cite 5 asian countries if asked spontaneously! Given our History, Vietnam should come first, Thailand and Filippines are easy to guess and China + Japan are obvious.

Last year I was in Paris and I realised that mentalities did not change: if you are Asian, you are Chinese. Not that they would be able to differentiate, they just don't care.That's true, but not all people in France are so ignorant about Asia. I know quite a few though who think that you are speaking about Taiwanese people when talking about "Thais"!.

[NicFrenchy]

Yep. Those Frenchmen aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. ;)

You won't get any disagreements from me there.

[Tiger 888]

Yep. Those Frenchmen aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. ;)You find ignorance in evey country among the not travelled ones.

Ask randomly people in New York how far it is to LA and you'll be surprised.

In Germany I heard several times that it was Japan where everything is manufactured cheaply. If it had been a single incident, it could have been an Alzheimer on his long term memory, but that is obvoiusly not the case.

[Nvslim]

Maybe OTH should change his handle to The Scarlet Pimpernel ;).

One of the things that was guaranteed to wind up my wife, when we first moved to UK, was the way that people assumed that she was Chinese. She used to come home fuming as kids had been taunting her with cries of 'chinky, chinky'. I used to think it as funny as hell, as my wife is a Filipina and looks as much Chinese as I do an Eskimo :D.

My Pinay wife is mistaken for Japanese. With a Spanish surname, Latinos try to speak Spanish to her. When we got married 20+ years ago, people thought she was my daughter now they think she is my grand daughter. At 40+ she can still pass for 25.

Slim

[Knobrm]

Almost depressed by Obepo's comment - I do not feel like wanting to accept to be served by less attractive women; it is not fair...so encouraged by Canyons observations. However, unfortunately my own observations are not as encouraging as his. I have actually been doing BKK since late 2000 too, and as said, quality on average is just down in past couple of years. But hope that my recent visits in past couple of years have been just those less lucky times, and things will turn better going forward.


Opebo,

I've been going to Bangkok since 2000, and I've found the quality to be about the same now as it's been for the past eight years. There are, however, fluctuations. One trip, the quality wil be good, the next trip it will be mediocre and the trip after that, the quality will be excellent. For me, the quality on the last trip was as high as it's ever been, and as Mick can testify, I'm quite picky. It does, however, take patience and research to find good quality girls. Sometimes when I go into BG 7, Thermae, Gulliver's or CM2, I'll see no girls that meet my standards. I just walk in, walk around, then move on to the next place. If I keep on looking, I almost always find someone good. The same thing applies to soapies. Recently Mick and I went to Utopia (usually a good place), but we didn't find anyone we liked. We left and went to Tarawadee and both of us ended up finding someone acceptable. Right now, Tulip has some of the best-looking girls with the best service that they have ever had.

My view is that it makes no sense to bemoan the state of the girls in Bangkok. There are some great ones out there. It just takes some planning and patience to find them.

[Betong]

. . . quality on average is just down in past couple of years.It goes up, it goes down, it averages out. Given the current economic prospects, it may soon start to rise. I still remember some of the very nice girls who got onto the game after the crash of '97. Once I even found myself with the the former guest relations manager of a fairly well known Bangkok hotel . . . 26 years old, a Thammasat biz grad, and utterly lovely . . . working in bar in Suk 22. Could be more of these coming soon.

[Traveler1234]

You find ignorance in evey country among the not travelled ones.

Ask randomly people in New York how far it is to LA and you'll be surprised.



And we also had a VP candidate who thought Africa was a country.........

[1Ball]

And we also had a VP candidate who thought Africa was a country.........
True T1234, but in her defense, she DID know where Russia is. After all, she told us "I can see Russia from my house". ;)

[Retired Army]

And we also had a VP candidate who thought Africa was a country.........

This was a bogus quote reported by an Obama blogger and was totally discredited, but not reported by the liberal "drive-by" media.

[NicFrenchy]

Sorry Nic, much as I respect your reports, the riposte by RA wins Pisstake Of The Month by a country mile :D.

I know, it also made ME laugh. I will not edit my post, fuck it, let people have some fun at the Frenchman's expense ;)

[Amjeck]

Obviously quality is drastically, shockingly down compared to say 6-10 years ago, even with the slight uptick recently due to the economic downturn. Quite simply, the prettier girls are not available to farangs in a better economic environment, because if at all possible they prefer to either 1) remain respectable, or 2) only service Thai men and avoid the despised farang.


Absolutely true! Asians have become more prosperous and spend more on girls now.

[Cunning Stunt]

I know, it also made ME laugh. I will not edit my post, fuck it, let people have some fun at the Frenchman's expense ;)


At least you don't twitter on about gulls and fishing boats. But do you wear your collar up and karate kick your detractors? :eek:

[Retired Army]

Yeah, but you lived in Thailand for donkey's years and still don't know where most of it is on a map :D.


I know where to get som tom, cold beer and warm pussy. What more do I need? ;) And, if there is something I don't know, but need to know, I ask the little lady and she tells me. Life is perfect.

[Kenster]

Obviously quality is drastically, shockingly down compared to say 6-10 years ago, even with the slight uptick recently due to the economic downturn. Quite simply, the prettier girls are not available to farangs in a better economic environment, because if at all possible they prefer to either 1) remain respectable, or 2) only service Thai men and avoid the despised farang.

This is basically the same pattern that has repeated itself in Asian country after Asian country - many decades ago Japan, in the last couple of decades South Korea, and now the last domino to fall, Thailand. The world darkens, our options draw in, and we are lost gentlemen.

But as to how to deal with it for now, Knobrm, just get used to being serviced by older, unattractive women. That's what I've done.The thing about it all is I've seen hot women in Thailand.

Damn I've seen hot women. Everywhere and anywhere. I'm not knocking anyones taste here when I say this but I've been to NEP + a few other places like CM2 multiple times to try my luck but so far, I've seen nothing I like.

Rather I think the girls I see at The Pent, Pegasus etc are more my liking. Younger, Chinese-Thai's with fairer skin and sometimes speak a bit of english which can in return teach me some thai when we've done the deed?

All in all, I really can't comment on how the scene has changed in the past 6. 8 years as 8 years ago, I was still a budding university student but I think that beautiful women can be had in Thailand, more so than many other cities in the world.

Try mongering in taipei. Absolute nightmare. I've heard it can be easy, for those in the know-how. Having only 3 days there made it practically impossible for me.

At the end of the day, there will always be beautiful beautiful beautiful women waiting to show you a thing or two. It all depends on whether you're willing to pay the asking price or not.

Or rather whether or not the asking price is worth it.

[Fedex]

... from Vietnam, Cambodia, Myammar, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and China, as well as for flights within Thailand.

Here's the article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20081216/ap_tr_ge/as_travel_brief_thailand_airasia_free_seats

[Amjeck]

Redfield10,

Amjeck,

The last time I look this was suppose to be a globol economy! Have you looked at the Asian stock market recently! Does being Asian exempt me from the current stock market crash? I'm looking at my stock statement it has dropped! I'm looking in the mirror and I though I was white but I'm Asian! So here's a new flash! Being Asian doesn't mean I automatically prosper and we pay more for pussy!

LBM
Take a look at the high end p4p scene in LOS and you will see that Asians are the big spenders.

[Run Mann]

If you didn't know, this does exist.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2482

[JayHighFive]

Hi fella's,
I'm headed back to Bangkok in a couple day. I know the gogo bar scene like Nana and the bars at Soi 33. Were is a good place to pick up independent girls? Thanks for the help. Pics will follow on my return.
Jay

[Member #3428]

Hi fella's,
I'm headed back to Bangkok in a couple day. I know the gogo bar scene like Nana and the bars at Soi 33. Were is a good place to pick up independent girls? Thanks for the help. Pics will follow on my return.
Jay

Independent meaning free lancer ie.. no bar fine or you talking about girls who are non P4P???

Independents IE Free Lancers... Beer Garden, Gullivers, CM2 (higher costing girls, russians and others), Spice Club, Q Club, Thermane Coffee Shop, Bamboo Beer Hall, Nana Parking Lot (not inside NEP), walking down Sukhumvit etc.... Many Many places to pick up Free Lancers...

We all have our favorite spots but most girls do the circuit between Gullivers and Beer Garden and such... they move around.

It's the Holiday Season so I won't say RTFF... so no offense but spending 10 minutes reading the forum would have given you these answers or searching for free lancers will give you tons of info. Now you can search for those names above if you like.

If you want regular thai girls you wont' get it in short stay so don't waste your time.

[NicFrenchy]

Hi fella's,
I'm headed back to Bangkok in a couple day. I know the gogo bar scene like Nana and the bars at Soi 33. Were is a good place to pick up independent girls? Thanks for the help. Pics will follow on my return.
Jay

Wow, Jay, you got some balls coming in here with a P4P question in the Bangkok Forum! be careful, you might disrupt the discussions about politics.

For independant girls, it all depends on what is your budget and how important to you are the surroundings. For example:

If you like the skanky places with 300thb ST girls then Chinatown is your place.
Not far from that is the Lower sukhumvit street walkers (watch out for the Ladyboys) where you can get 500thb ST.
Beergarden, Gullivers are also on Sukh (7 and 5) and the ladies usually price themselves at 1000thb ST. Same for the Nana Parking lot (evening on soi 4)

Cm2, Nana disco might be a little more expensive 1000-1500 ST

Thermae gets going late and lately girls have been asking 1500 to 2000 ST

Same for girls at Toxic, Q bar adn the likes.

Most expensive are at bars like Spasso, these girls are not very different than the others but prefer to have only 1 guy per night (rather than try adn get 3 or 4) and charge 5000 (or even more).

[Tiger 888]

Wow, Jay, you got some balls coming in here with a P4P question in the Bangkok Forum! be careful, you might disrupt the discussions about politics.

For independant girls, it all depends on what is your budget and how important to you are the surroundings. For example:

If you like the skanky places with 300thb ST girls then Chinatown is your place.
Not far from that is the Lower sukhumvit street walkers (watch out for the Ladyboys) where you can get 500thb ST.
Beergarden, Gullivers are also on Sukh (7 and 5) and the ladies usually price themselves at 1000thb ST. Same for the Nana Parking lot (evening on soi 4)

Cm2, Nana disco might be a little more expensive 1000-1500 ST

Thermae gets going late and lately girls have been asking 1500 to 2000 ST

Same for girls at Toxic, Q bar adn the likes.

Most expensive are at bars like Spasso, these girls are not very different than the others but prefer to have only 1 guy per night (rather than try adn get 3 or 4) and charge 5000 (or even more).I've never paid (been asked) more than 2000 LT, be it Rainbow, Spice Club, Soi 22 or the Lodge.

[M P Lurker]

I've never paid (been asked) more than 2000 LT, be it Rainbow, Spice Club, Soi 22 or the Lodge.
You must be selecting incredibly cheap girls.
I know plenty of girls who would not be tempted by 2000 for LT. They would probably do ST only.
O.K. Times are tough right now.

[Tiger 888]

You must be selecting incredibly cheap girls.
I know plenty of girls who would not be tempted by 2000 for LT. They would probably do ST only.
O.K. Times are tough right now.I am not selecting cheap girls. Example: Rainbow, Livingstones, Deja Vu, Tilac.
But I always pass on those who don't want to do LT. If I click with a girl she normally quotes moderately. If not, I don't even consider asking for the price.
And I don't only talk about now, even though I am just back from BKK.
A year ago I had a girl from Spice club LT at that price who works in Titanium. There of course I would have had no chance at that price, but from Spice club it was ok.

[Masacuata]

Wow, Jay, you got some balls coming in here with a P4P question in the Bangkok Forum! be careful, you might disrupt the discussions about politics.

For independant girls, it all depends on what is your budget and how important to you are the surroundings. For example:

If you like the skanky places with 300thb ST girls then Chinatown is your place.
Not far from that is the Lower sukhumvit street walkers (watch out for the Ladyboys) where you can get 500thb ST.
Beergarden, Gullivers are also on Sukh (7 and 5) and the ladies usually price themselves at 1000thb ST. Same for the Nana Parking lot (evening on soi 4)

Cm2, Nana disco might be a little more expensive 1000-1500 ST

Thermae gets going late and lately girls have been asking 1500 to 2000 ST

Same for girls at Toxic, Q bar adn the likes.

Most expensive are at bars like Spasso, these girls are not very different than the others but prefer to have only 1 guy per night (rather than try adn get 3 or 4) and charge 5000 (or even more).


Hi NicFrenchy,

I am heading in a couple of weeks to BKK and woulid like to ask you about current rates for LT.

Do you have any idea?

Cheers,
Masacuata

[Centaurus]

Any particular place in Bangkok where one just HAS to go on new Year's eve (like the Copa in Rio or the Champs E. in Paris)?

Or where one really SHOULD go because it's a wild wet dream getting drunk with Miss Sophie, followed by the same procedure as every year?

I'll be on my own, so I guess I could just settle for the LL party.

[NicFrenchy]

Hi NicFrenchy,

I am heading in a couple of weeks to BKK and woulid like to ask you about current rates for LT.

Do you have any idea?

Cheers,
Masacuata

Hi Masacuata,

I usually pay 3,000 for LT but I do not take out girls from "Low-end" GoGos, I usually take them from Shark, they are very pretty and usually quote 4,000.
They are used to Japanese customers and very rarely go with caucasian because we are known to be cheap.

ne can argue that girls like to be treated with respect and blablabla but when it comes down to it, they prefer the cold business like Japanese and more cash.

Most Other Nana or Cowboy bars will be around 2,500 LT.

If you want to pay less, you need to wait until 2:30 am and the girls will drop their price.

Also, look for a girl that already has been on a ST, she will be more inclined to drop her LT price.

Thermae, Gullivers, BG7 will be anywhere between 2k-3k for LT

[Traveler1234]

Um...for the record: I'm an Obama supporter, lifelong Democrat.


You're a good man charlie brown ;)

[DG69]

Wow, Jay, you got some balls coming in here with a P4P question in the Bangkok Forum! be careful, you might disrupt the discussions about politics.

For independant girls, it all depends on what is your budget and how important to you are the surroundings. For example:

If you like the skanky places with 300thb ST girls then Chinatown is your place.
Not far from that is the Lower sukhumvit street walkers (watch out for the Ladyboys) where you can get 500thb ST.
Beergarden, Gullivers are also on Sukh (7 and 5) and the ladies usually price themselves at 1000thb ST. Same for the Nana Parking lot (evening on soi 4)

Cm2, Nana disco might be a little more expensive 1000-1500 ST

Thermae gets going late and lately girls have been asking 1500 to 2000 ST

Same for girls at Toxic, Q bar adn the likes.

Most expensive are at bars like Spasso, these girls are not very different than the others but prefer to have only 1 guy per night (rather than try adn get 3 or 4) and charge 5000 (or even more).

Well, to add some more to that list, someone could go to "the tunnel" (good at weekends, but also expensive), or to Spicy (not Spice Club) which is a good place at the early hours of the day.

[M P Lurker]

Hi Masacuata,

I usually pay 3,000 for LT but I do not take out girls from "Low-end" GoGos, I usually take them from Shark, they are very pretty and usually quote 4,000.
They are used to Japanese customers and very rarely go with caucasian because we are known to be cheap.

Nic,

I thought you hardly ever took girls for long time LOL because we don't don't see your LT posts much and you weren't that keen for girls to know where your room is.

I have been to Shark and found it to be a relatively boring bar even if a few reasonably pretty girls. Not many girls even knew how to dance. I was lucky I took two girls as one turned out to be hopeless and the other one good.
The good dancer was the good fuck.

Perhaps I should try again as havn't been in there for a long time.

BTW. A tip for newbies (not Nic of course). Girls that are boring crap dancers are more likely to be boring lousy girls in bed too.
Really good hot dancers usually know how to fuck good too. But don't take a girl putting on a fake act.
Chat to the girl first to suss out her personality.

There are exceptions. Sometimes shy sad girls can change completely in the bedroom and become very passionate.

[NicFrenchy]

Nic,

I thought you hardly ever took girls for long time LOL because we don't don't see your LT posts much and you weren't that keen for girls to know where your room is.

You are correct Mick. I am not a fan of Gogos and rarely indulge but when I do, Shark is my place of hunting.
I usually get quoted 3,000 LT which I think is fair for multiple fucks.

If you think about it, many guys whine about prices being high but at 3k long time, it's still a good bargain. Just tell the girl you want 4 pops. that's 750 per pop for FS ;)

[M P Lurker]

You are correct Mick. I am not a fan of Gogos and rarely indulge but when I do, Shark is my place of hunting.
I usually get quoted 3,000 LT which I think is fair for multiple fucks.

If you think about it, many guys whine about prices being high but at 3k long time, it's still a good bargain. Just tell the girl you want 4 pops. that's 750 per pop for FS ;)
Well I will never get 750 per pop accept maybe with Yok.
My normal LT is only 2 pops.
So its a long time since I ever paid < 1K per pop. But I am hard work (per pop).

BTW Nic, I see now that you have cut nearly all of your Giks, you have time to post again.
Did you simply get bored with the Giks, or were they selfish or of bad character in some other way?
Or the obvious one, they wanted to be more than a Gik?

[Monopoly]

In November, the FL's in Nana parking lot refused 1000B for 2 hour. They wanted 1000B for 1 hour or 1500B for 2 hours (and they were average looking girls)

Is this normal pricing or am I just not a handsome man? Do these FL's really care about the time or were they just making it an issue because I was making it an issue?

[BKK Dreaming]

I had the same thing happen , I like tohave them think they are staying 2 hours so its not a rush thing , its not like I have a stopwatch out or anything ,

But saying that made them stick on 1500 more than once ,

Maybe its a Nana FL Union thing and they want extra for overtime!

PS.....I did not pay the 1500, just waited for the next one to walk by....

BK

[NicFrenchy]

Is this normal pricing or am I just not a handsome man? Do these FL's really care about the time or were they just making it an issue because I was making it an issue?

No, it isn't normal pricing.
1,000 for ST is 1,000 to the girl until you pop (can be 15 minutes).

Some people (myself included) like to put a time to the deal: minimum 2 hours and I want 2 pops for my 1,000. BG7 girls all agree to this.

[M P Lurker]

In November, the FL's in Nana parking lot refused 1000B for 2 hour. They wanted 1000B for 1 hour or 1500B for 2 hours (and they were average looking girls)

Is this normal pricing or am I just not a handsome man? Do these FL's really care about the time or were they just making it an issue because I was making it an issue?
1000 Baht might be O.K. for ST but the girls will be expecting just one pop and well under 2 hours normally.
Then they can rush back and try for another customer.

When you start making an issue about 2 hours, they start to think that you will be very hard work, maybe not much fun, and want a dectent payout for the hard work.

Very few good standard girls want to work a full 2 hrs for multiple pops for just 1K. They might end up too tired to do another customer. The next customer might offer them 2K or maybe even 3K for LT, if they are a good looker.

[Bearsk]

The girls refer to Japanese guys as Mister 3s - ST: 3 minutes, 3 inches, 3000 THB ...


I usually pay 3,000 for LT but I do not take out girls from "Low-end" GoGos, I usually take them from Shark, they are very pretty and usually quote 4,000.
They are used to Japanese customers and very rarely go with caucasian because we are known to be cheap.

ne can argue that girls like to be treated with respect and blablabla but when it comes down to it, they prefer the cold business like Japanese and more cash.

[Lover Boy #2]

Is there anything intrinsically wrong with a girl skilled in sex, charging money for providing this skill. In my opinion no. There is no victim of this supposed "crime".

While this seems to be true on the face of it....when you really give it some thought.....it may not be true.

The victim of this non-crime is probably the girl. So here is this sweet girl starting out at this game.....very nice.....she probably supports everone and everyone is happy.

As the years go by and she starts to age.....now she is "no good" (self admitted). Her self-image is destroyed by what she considers to be her low life activity. She starts to drink and smoke and possibly use drugs. When you ask why.....she says that her life is so miserable that she doesn't care if she lives or dies.....she only wants to forget the last asshole she has been licking. Most farang relationships are short term......possibly worse with a Thai...and now she is not young...so her Thai pickings are very, very slim.

She knows there is no good end to all of this. Some save for the future...most don't. So now she is old before her time...not many customers....the future is not bright for her.

The profession does not have a good retirment plan......the girl is the ultimate vicim of all this fun.

[Double Shooter]

Looks like this has converted into an LB hangout. Includes many convincing conversions if that's your thing.

Pity I used to like the live music and FL's at that end of Sukh.

[M P Lurker]

while this seems to be true on the face of it....when you really give it some thought.....it may not be true.

the victim of this non-crime is probably the girl. so here is this sweet girl starting out at this game.....very nice.....she probably supports everone and everyone is happy.

as the years go by and she starts to age.....now she is "no good" (self admitted). her self-image is destroyed by what she considers to be her low life activity. she starts to drink and smoke and possibly use drugs. when you ask why.....she says that her life is so miserable that she doesn't care if she lives or dies.....she only wants to forget the last asshole she has been licking. most farang relationships are short term......possibly worse with a thai...and now she is not young...so her thai pickings are very, very slim.

she knows there is no good end to all of this. some save for the future...most don't. so now she is old before her time...not many customers....the future is not bright for her.

the profession does not have a good retirment plan......the girl is the ultimate vicim of all this fun.
well i agree its hard for a p4p girl to have a proper bf or husband when she is giving all these unknowns better service.

if she thinks she is a low-life then she is a victim of society's pre-programming that sex is bad.
she should only sell her body if she thinks its o.k. and justified. if she feels bad about it, she should choose a job where she is able to refuse customers that she doesn't like.

maybe i feel bad too that i am single at my age and have spent so much money on mongering and being addicted to sex.
but i can quit at any time and look to the future.
then i look at all my peers with boring wives who rarely come across and i don't really envy them.

some girls seel sex as a means to get rich quickly. they should be able to retire at a young age and leave all that behind them.

other girls have to do p4p merely to make ends meet. they maybe sacrificing their own life prospects in order to give their sons/daughters a better chance in the world.
these girls still have a chance to meet a nice nice farang that will take them away from it all to a more comfortable life some day.

p4p is not a reasion to become a drunk, drug addict, etc. in my view.

i can accept an ex p4p girl as a gf or wife provided she can show her good character still remains and has not been corrupted by the p4p work.
this is possible even if not probable.
too many ex p4ps are still trying to manipulate guys to get money. but not every p4p girl has bad character.

[Birds]

Looking for suggestions. I have a 6AM int'l flight out of BKK, which means leaving for airport around 3AM. So I'm thinking its kind of a waste to get a hotel room for the previous evening, and that I'm better off wearing myself out a little the night before so I might actually sleep a little on the plane. One obvious choice is MPs, but is the posted closing times (e.g. 11 at Tulip) the last time you can get in or the time the girls go home? Any other suggestions for filling the time till 3 without hotel?

Thanks

[LittleBigMan]

Bird,

I have taken a 6am flight many times and have stayed in Bangkok for only 12 to 15 hours prior to departing to the aiport at 3am. In my opinion unless you are cheap and stupid! get yourself a room! It doesn't have to be expensive. You can find cheap and decent rooms at the Nana City Inn on Soi 4 ( 800-900 baht ) down from the NEP or maybe the White Orchid Inn also off Soi 4 down from NEP for 800-900 baht. In a alley way just off Soi 4... email is
white_orchidsoi4@hotmail.com
Give yourself a choice.... There times even after a massage at Tulip I like the option of coming and going and just relaxing in the room watching some T.V. and then going back downstairs to snag a ST... in the end 20 bucks isn't going to kill you!

LBM

[JPF]

The girls refer to Japanese guys as Mister 3s - ST: 3 minutes, 3 inches, 3000 THB ...

They must be driving a harder bargain pricewise, then. :-)

The old phrase I heard that the girls use was 2-3-4: 2 inches; 3 minutes; 4000 baht

[M P Lurker]

Looking for suggestions. I have a 6AM int'l flight out of BKK, which means leaving for airport around 3AM. So I'm thinking its kind of a waste to get a hotel room for the previous evening, and that I'm better off wearing myself out a little the night before so I might actually sleep a little on the plane. One obvious choice is MPs, but is the posted closing times (e.g. 11 at Tulip) the last time you can get in or the time the girls go home? Any other suggestions for filling the time till 3 without hotel?

Thanks
You can certainly find a Bar in Soi Cowboy open till at least 2AM if they have customers. If you pick a girl there is a ST Hotel nearby. There are also freelancers. Once you run out of interest, go to the airport.

[NicFrenchy]

I have a 6AM int'l flight out of BKK, which means leaving for airport around 3AM. So I'm thinking its kind of a waste to get a hotel room for the previous evening, and that I'm better off wearing myself out a little the night before so I might actually sleep a little on the plane.

I am sure you can manage that but, don't you have any luggage?

[Member #3428]

So I'm thinking its kind of a waste to get a hotel room for the previous evening, and that I'm better off wearing myself out a little the night before so I might actually sleep a little on the plane.

You can but I'm with LBM, I wouldn't. Much better to grab a girl in your room until you leave. IMHO..

But if you get to know a girl at an MP and like her you can nail her at the MP then take her out for Disco or meal or ST room or whatever if she agrees before hand. You can hang out at Cowboy or head to a late night place (if still open late on weekends mostly). But it really depends on the day of the week from my experience. Sometimes Sukhumvit is full of items to do late and sometime it is dead late at night.


I am sure you can manage that but, don't you have any luggage?

Most hotels I've been at inside Asia (Philippines, Thailand, China for the most part) are willing to store luggage all day and most will even store it for multiple days. With my transits I've often left items without issues.

[M P Lurker]

You can but I'm with LBM, I wouldn't. Much better to grab a girl in your room until you leave. IMHO..

I am more with Bird. A room is for sleeping in the bed. Without that, its a waste of money that could be better spent at Tulip and later a ST room will do.

[Michi]

Looking for suggestions. I have a 6AM int'l flight out of BKK, which means leaving for airport around 3AM. So I'm thinking its kind of a waste to get a hotel room for the previous evening, and that I'm better off wearing myself out a little the night before so I might actually sleep a little on the plane. One obvious choice is MPs, but is the posted closing times (e.g. 11 at Tulip) the last time you can get in or the time the girls go home? Any other suggestions for filling the time till 3 without hotel?

ThanksHi,

Another option is Annies. If I understand it right you can ger a LT there late and just use theit room until you want to leave. Never tried, but that should fit your bill and the girls are outstanding in service, so you will leave as a happy man.

Rgds,

Mike

[William Rose]

First time in Bangkok and thought that I would head down to Cowboy and Shark. As reported previously there are many decent to very decent looking girls. After a beer or two I settled down with a 22yo tiny Isaan spinner who spoke pretty broken english. We agreed to 1500 ST and she promised to take good care of me. So done, bar fine and we went outside for another drink and a smoke. We were laughing it up and It thought I would be in for a good night when she started talking about her dad dying 3 months ago. A bit of a buzz kill but I felt bad and sort of let her say her bit. She also was a bit weird about it. Lighting the first cigarette in a new pack and putting it down on the ground so her "father" could smoke with her. Anyway I disregarded this and was about to suggest to leave when she went to get her friend to come over and have a drink with us. Problem was that her friend hadn't been bar fined and had to keep dancing so she asked if I would do her a favour and split the fine with her. Dumb idea but I went along with it. Anyway friend comes out in her street gear and sits down. We have a final drink and my girl suggests we go but she's a little hungry and wants to cook something for me. I don't really understand with the broken english but next thing I know we're in a taxi and at some local Bangkok market. No farrang anywhere. We're walking around and buying a stuff and she kept asking me for money. At this point I agree I should have bailed but I didn't as she kept promising me a good time. So about 500 baht of groceries later we head off somewhere "close" to cook. Well close ended up being about 20 minutes away and some sketchy ass apartment of her friends which consisted of one room and electric frying pan on a balcony. I never should have got out of the cab but I did and needless to say the rest of the night never got any better. 3 1/2 hours after we had left Cowboy she, her friend, some old neighbor, a brother who drives one of the motorbike taxis and I were sitting in this tiny ass apartment while they feasted on food I bought. Now I wasn't even remotely hungry and at this point 4:30 in the morning I had enough so I said I was leaving and she and her friend followed me out. We walked down some dark alley to a "semi main st" and waited 15 minutes for a taxi. She talked about coming to meet me later after she finished eating and I said I would be sleeping and thanks but no thanks. The cab then arrived and I jumped in the front and said bye. Next thing she jumps in the back. Whatever. After all this crap the least I could get back from her was some decent action. We get back to the hotel and had the most pathetic, unenergetic 15 minute session of my life after which she wanted to leave. She then demands her 1500 ST fee to which I laughed and said she was barely worth 500 but I would give 1000 just to get her away from me. I persisted to explain how awful the night was and how I didn't really sign up to be dragged around feeding her friends neighborhood. She insisted and said "this is business". I gave her the extra 500 but I'll never be back to be fed to the sharks again.

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[Opebo]

In November, the FL's in Nana parking lot refused 1000B for 2 hour. They wanted 1000B for 1 hour or 1500B for 2 hours (and they were average looking girls)

The lesson is - do not take any girls from the Nana parking lot. Go to Pattaya.

[Jodi In Heat]

What is the best way? Taxi, bus? How much should it cost? I am booking the Dynasty Inn Grande and they offer a shuttle for 1200 baht.

Is that a good deal?

Has anyone stayed at this hotel before?

Should I book something else?

[Mikestar]

Or you can just store your luggage at the airport and stay in a cheap hours room with a girl near cowboy. The girls know the hotels and the room was 350 B when we arrived around 3:30am from partying, as my plane was leaving also at 8am.


Looking for suggestions. I have a 6AM int'l flight out of BKK, which means leaving for airport around 3AM. So I'm thinking its kind of a waste to get a hotel room for the previous evening, and that I'm better off wearing myself out a little the night before so I might actually sleep a little on the plane. One obvious choice is MPs, but is the posted closing times (e.g. 11 at Tulip) the last time you can get in or the time the girls go home? Any other suggestions for filling the time till 3 without hotel?

Thanks

[Fun Couple]

Guys,

Have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?

[Terry Terrier]

First time in Bangkok and thought that I would head down to Cowboy and Shark. As reported previously there are many decent to very decent looking girls. After a beer or two I settled down with a 22yo tiny Isaan spinner who spoke pretty broken english. We agreed to 1500 ST and she promised to take good care of me. So done, bar fine and we went outside for another drink and a smoke. We were laughing it up and It thought I would be in for a good night when she started talking about her dad dying 3 months ago. A bit of a buzz kill but I felt bad and sort of let her say her bit. She also was a bit weird about it. Lighting the first cigarette in a new pack and putting it down on the ground so her "father" could smoke with her. Anyway I disregarded this and was about to suggest to leave when she went to get her friend to come over and have a drink with us. Problem was that her friend hadn't been bar fined and had to keep dancing so she asked if I would do her a favour and split the fine with her. Dumb idea but I went along with it. Anyway friend comes out in her street gear and sits down. We have a final drink and my girl suggests we go but she's a little hungry and wants to cook something for me. I don't really understand with the broken english but next thing I know we're in a taxi and at some local Bangkok market. No farrang anywhere. We're walking around and buying a stuff and she kept asking me for money. At this point I agree I should have bailed but I didn't as she kept promising me a good time. So about 500 baht of groceries later we head off somewhere "close" to cook. Well close ended up being about 20 minutes away and some sketchy ass apartment of her friends which consisted of one room and electric frying pan on a balcony. I never should have got out of the cab but I did and needless to say the rest of the night never got any better. 3 1/2 hours after we had left Cowboy she, her friend, some old neighbor, a brother who drives one of the motorbike taxis and I were sitting in this tiny ass apartment while they feasted on food I bought. Now I wasn't even remotely hungry and at this point 4:30 in the morning I had enough so I said I was leaving and she and her friend followed me out. We walked down some dark alley to a "semi main st" and waited 15 minutes for a taxi. She talked about coming to meet me later after she finished eating and I said I would be sleeping and thanks but no thanks. The cab then arrived and I jumped in the front and said bye. Next thing she jumps in the back. Whatever. After all this crap the least I could get back from her was some decent action. We get back to the hotel and had the most pathetic, unenergetic 15 minute session of my life after which she wanted to leave. She then demands her 1500 ST fee to which I laughed and said she was barely worth 500 but I would give 1000 just to get her away from me. I persisted to explain how awful the night was and how I didn't really sign up to be dragged around feeding her friends neighborhood. She insisted and said "this is business". I gave her the extra 500 but I'll never be back to be fed to the sharks again.

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William, you should've headed straight to Pattaya's beer bars. Punting in Bangkok requires savvy and cynicism. It's not a place for first time Thailand sextourists (as I learned, myself, the hard way).

[Washburn]

I've never paid (been asked) more than 2000 LT, be it Rainbow, Spice Club, Soi 22 or the Lodge.

I've always been asked for 3000 LT at these places. You must be very handsome, or charming, or likely both.

I often don't bother negotiating with girls for LT now, just pay them 3000 in the morning (plus cab fare and possibly tip). It's nice not to talk about money, and I only take girls LT when I really like them, and they seem to like me.

[NicFrenchy]

She then demands her 1500 ST fee to which I laughed and said she was barely worth 500 but I would give 1000 just to get her away from me. I persisted to explain how awful the night was and how I didn't really sign up to be dragged around feeding her friends neighborhood. She insisted and said "this is business". I gave her the extra 500 but I'll never be back to be fed to the sharks again.

Hahahahahahaha... why is it that Farangs in LOS lose all sense of common sense when dealing with prostitutes?
Be firm, the girl will respect you for it. If you are a pushover, you will be taken for a fool (oop, you learned the hard way).

As the lady said: this is business: Play and Pay, then move on to the next girl.

[Tiger 888]

I've always been asked for 3000 LT at these places. You must be very handsome, or charming, or likely both.

I often don't bother negotiating with girls for LT now, just pay them 3000 in the morning (plus cab fare and possibly tip). It's nice not to talk about money, and I only take girls LT when I really like them, and they seem to like me.I am 50 and far from being handsome. Being nice to the girls is way more important and does the job most of the time.

[LittleBigMan]

In the end, just listen to what is being said..... you can do this and maybe you can do that....... If it doesn't work out then what, walk around until you find something to do. Do I sit in one of outside bars and spend my money on beer instead of a room. I know a room is just for sleeping and you're right that why I don't understand why people spend 4-5 thousand baht for just that! But of course there going to be plenty of discussion about that. In the end, I believe that if Bird doesn't get a room he will be going to the airport and thinking I should have gotten a room.

The time and money just trying to find enough things to do before he goes to the airport he could have gotten the room and expanded his options even if it's just to rest or have a nice hot shower or just be able to sit and take a good shit without being rushed. You can't put a price on that!

Get a cheap room....instead of being a bird sitting on a branch waiting to see what you are going to do next!

A guy like Bird, if he got to ask what to do that indicates to me he's not going to be able to fill the time like a guy like Mick Licker.

LBM

[LittleBigMan]

Jodi in Heat,

Suppose to be a nice hotel, but the shuttle to airport for 1200 baht got to be the biggest ripoff I have heard in a long time. For that money they should pick you up in a black stretch limo with a girl to accompany you to the airport. You can walk out grab any taxi, and tell them to turn on the meter and get you to the airport for 300 baht and that's with tip! When I left Nana Hotel 2 weeks ago I grabbed a taxi and told him airport, meter and tollway. I gave him 100 baht for the tollway and he gave me back the change. First time that happen! Fastest driver I ever had and I was at the airport at 7:17AM. I gave him 300 baht. The guy was fast and good.

LBM

[Warbucks]

First time in Bangkok and thought that I would head down to Cowboy and Shark. As reported previously there are many decent to very decent looking girls. After a beer or two I settled down with a 22yo tiny Isaan spinner who spoke pretty broken english. We agreed to 1500 ST and she promised to take good care of me. So done, bar fine and we went outside for another drink and a smoke. We were laughing it up and It thought I would be in for a good night when she started talking about her dad dying 3 months ago. A bit of a buzz kill but I felt bad and sort of let her say her bit. She also was a bit weird about it. Lighting the first cigarette in a new pack and putting it down on the ground so her "father" could smoke with her. Anyway I disregarded this and was about to suggest to leave when she went to get her friend to come over and have a drink with us. Problem was that her friend hadn't been bar fined and had to keep dancing so she asked if I would do her a favour and split the fine with her. Dumb idea but I went along with it. Anyway friend comes out in her street gear and sits down. We have a final drink and my girl suggests we go but she's a little hungry and wants to cook something for me. I don't really understand with the broken english but next thing I know we're in a taxi and at some local Bangkok market. No farrang anywhere. We're walking around and buying a stuff and she kept asking me for money. At this point I agree I should have bailed but I didn't as she kept promising me a good time. So about 500 baht of groceries later we head off somewhere "close" to cook. Well close ended up being about 20 minutes away and some sketchy ass apartment of her friends which consisted of one room and electric frying pan on a balcony. I never should have got out of the cab but I did and needless to say the rest of the night never got any better. 3 1/2 hours after we had left Cowboy she, her friend, some old neighbor, a brother who drives one of the motorbike taxis and I were sitting in this tiny ass apartment while they feasted on food I bought. Now I wasn't even remotely hungry and at this point 4:30 in the morning I had enough so I said I was leaving and she and her friend followed me out. We walked down some dark alley to a "semi main st" and waited 15 minutes for a taxi. She talked about coming to meet me later after she finished eating and I said I would be sleeping and thanks but no thanks. The cab then arrived and I jumped in the front and said bye. Next thing she jumps in the back. Whatever. After all this crap the least I could get back from her was some decent action. We get back to the hotel and had the most pathetic, unenergetic 15 minute session of my life after which she wanted to leave. She then demands her 1500 ST fee to which I laughed and said she was barely worth 500 but I would give 1000 just to get her away from me. I persisted to explain how awful the night was and how I didn't really sign up to be dragged around feeding her friends neighborhood. She insisted and said "this is business". I gave her the extra 500 but I'll never be back to be fed to the sharks again.

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Don't let them push you around man...stay in charge...social wise, money wise and sex wise....:confused:

[Westsider]

What is the best way? Taxi, bus? How much should it cost? I am booking the Dynasty Inn Grande and they offer a shuttle for 1200 baht.

At the airport, go up 2 levels to the Departures entrance and taxis will go to to Nana Soi 4 for 300B and never higher than 400B. I've stayed at all 5 Dynasty properties in BKK and Pattaya and find them clean and a good value. The Grande is the most upscale. I like the "back building" because of the larger showers. You will pay 1000B more for the Soi 6 Grande over the Soi 4 Dynasty which is older but still ok. The new Dawin just opened 5 months ago but I find the rooms to be too small.

[Giotto]

At the airport, go up 2 levels to the Departures entrance and taxis will go to to Nana Soi 4 for 300B and never higher than 400B.
...
Its not really necessary, even if you take a taxi on the arrival level the fare to Soi 4 should be around THB 250,00 - THB 300,00. But you must take a PUBLIC TAXI, not an AOT car!

If you go up to the departure level you can save THB 50,00 (airport fee for taxis).


Giotto

[NicFrenchy]

If you go up to the departure level you can save THB 50,00 (airport fee for taxis).


Yes, but the new Barriers they put make it difficult to now get a taxi @ Departures level... but not impossible.

[Escort Fan]

Today i’ve decided to head to Soi Cowboy for a change. I’ve mostly gone to MP’s and never really spent time on the gogo scene.

Things are quiet these days, I went to "Tilac Bar" which is a quite big facility, and we were no more than eight customers at 8PM. While there were about 50 or 60 girls dancing.

I drank, and I was getting bored, then a mamas an started to get interested in me, it was about time, she recommended number 57, her stage name seems to be Suki.

Friendly girl, nice smile, descent English quite charming. We discuss, eventually she shows herself quite convincing, so I decided to bar fine her. BF was 600 and she quoted me 2K for ST and 3K for LT. I know it’s a rip off, I started to argue, she wouldn’t hear me, then again I’m not going to fight and waste part of my evening to save 500 baths.

She I paid the bf, we went back to the hotel. Shower time, then boom boom. Despite her services were ok, she would BBBJ and do FK’s, the fuck was plain and boring. No click a pure waste of time & money. Also it was technically the worst BJ I have ever received, I think this lady is missing some practice or was never properly guided.

After the deed only about 20 minutes had passed, she dressed up and demanded her money. I didn’t really argue, as I didn’t want to stick any longer with her, so I handed her the 2K for this ultra short time, and told me good night.

Then I thought why should she bother giving me premium services, in 48 hours I’ll be gone, it’s not like she can capitalize on me being a repeat customer. That’s a simple business rule.

And this girl seems to be quite smart and experienced. At least more than me

Even though Soi Cowboy must have its gems, I think I won’t go back there any time soon and will stick to soapies where you can actually claim you’re an expat and you’re not a newbie and soapie girls seems to provide their routine to each client. -

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[Hotman 666]

Hi all,

I just found out that there is a new provider in Bangkok who has a novel idea for pricing.

She charges by the inch!

Obviously she is much too expensive for me but I thought that some of you guys might be interested in a cheap screw!

Have a good Christmas.

Hotman.

[M P Lurker]

Guys,

Have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?
I have seen plenty of girls in bars with or without a male partner and a few take a girl away. Its not so uncommon.

Patpong is not normally recommended, unless you want to see really ugly weird shows like smoking a cigarette with the pussy, in which case Queens Castle has plenty of females going to see these ugly shows.

For erotic shows, I recommend Suzie Wong in Soi Cowboy with the "Lesbian Show", and other sexy shows.
I have taken girls to see this show a few times too.
Shark has pretty girls, but boring from a show point of view.

Someone else can comment on Nana Plaza (I haven't been there much).

There are some Soapy Massage places that specialise (to some extent) in group bookings (more than one customer). I believe Colonze 2 is one such place. Plaza Entertainment is probably another.

Can be found on this Map:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.765313,100.58301&spn=0.063941,0.070724&z=14

Please read Daddy San's report of Distinction for example of a couple having fun:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=729664&postcount=3927

Hana Massage (mentioned in his report) can be found on this Map:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.732861,100.564427&spn=0.015988,0.017681&z=16

In addition, just under the heading "Threads in Forum: Thailand" there is a link called "Thailand FAQ" (Frequently Asked Questions). Its important for all newcomers to Thailand to read this, even though its a bit old.

[NicFrenchy]

Hi all,

I just found out that there is a new provider in Bangkok who has a novel idea for pricing.

She charges by the inch!

Obviously she is much too expensive for me but I thought that some of you guys might be interested in a cheap screw!

Have a good Christmas.

Hotman.

I am sorry, but I think you mistook this thread for the Jokes forum? but then again it's not even funny...

[Flyhere]

...So I thank all those who have p/m'd me and I really look forward to learning a great deal more.

I feel like I have 100's of questions some of which may seem very blonde to you all your familar travellers and roll your eyes at my text, one of my greatest fears is that I will get there and my other half will be fine, but for f/f interaction with my male partner might not be as easy to find as I think it is?
...
Sorry, I don't have first-hand knowledge, only a few thoughts and suggestions. I happened to talk about this one day with a TG.

I am assuming from your posts that you are specifically looking for another female who would participate with both you and your male partner.

First of all, while it may not be obvious and in public, I think it's a lot easier to find than you think. In fact I think you will be surprised how easy it is, and will laugh at yourself afterwards for worrying too much. After all, this is Bangkok where the sex trade is big and out in the open.

As Mick Licker suggested, do a bit of reading to get some background. While it was intended for the male reader, everything applies to your case as far as the scenes, discos, clubs, bars, etc. as far as options.

I think it's also a lot easier that you are with your male partner. Just walk into any bar, sit down, have a drink, scan the working bar girls, if you see someone you like, wave her over and buy her a drink, talk a bit. Then just straight ask her. Alternatively, if you are shy, ask the mamasan. If you find nothing, move to the next bar.

Be specific and again don't be shy, a 3-some to the girls can mean girl-boy girl-boy, and no girl-girl action. If a girl indicates she does not do it, ask her if she knows who does, they all talk to each other, just be prepared for having your "wants" exposed in public as she talks openly with her bar sisters.

For Bangkok, I would suggest the gogo's in Soi Cowboy and the bars in Soi 22. I think you would waste too much time in the discos such as QBar and the outcome is uncertain, more miss than hit. You can also read the notes on the freelancers at Biergarden for example. Sorry I don't know Pattaya or other cities.

I know a girl in a bar in Soi Cowboy and the ladyboy mamasan there, would be glad to ask them info for you if you like, or introduce you if the timing is convenient. Feel free to PM.

cheers
fly

[NicFrenchy]

fun couple,

you have been given good advice but i think there is much better for you in bangkok.
going on and hunting for something that might not work out for you can be frustrating, the whole bar scene (nana, cowboy, soi 22, soi 33) as suggested before might not be the best option. it is if you are a male, but for couples and/or ladies, it is not as easy as it seems.

you must try the eden club before you do anything else!

this club specialises in threesomes: usually 1 male customer picks 2 ladies from the club.

location
sukhumvit soi 7/1
between soi 7 and soi 9
open from 12.30 pm to midnight (last call)

the menu
one man with two or more ladies
if unsatisfied with the service, no charge.

special fantasies ? let them know and they will help you organise it
all ladies are bisexual, (vibrator and strap-on dildo).
just show the ladies what you like.
left side of the yellow line: anal sex.
all the ladies provide oral sex.

prices
a standard session is 90 minutes, but it is possible to extend session in 90-minute increments.

the cost per lady per session: is 1800 bht
take away (10 pm to 6 am) : 3000 bht per lady
full day : 7000 bht per lady

services

xxx means every lady will provide this service

services that you would like to perform with the ladies :
oral sex bare xxx
cum on face xxx rimming xxx
uniform play xxx
cum in mouth xxx
vaginal sex (with condom) xxx
vaginal fingering xxx
lesbian performance xxx
anal sex (with condom)
anal fingering
spanking
light bondage
[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on body
[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in mouth
foot worship

services you want the ladies to perform on you :

bare back blowjob (bbbj) xxx
rimming xxx
use toys (strap-on, dildos,,etc... ) xxx
cum sharing xxx
anal fingering xxx
spanking
light bondage
[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on body
[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in mouth
deep throat
foot worship

the most important thing for you is the following: women are considered guests of the eden club and there is no extra charge for their participation!!
so you can go with your husband, you both pick girls and you tag along free of charge!

eden club specialises in these sort of experiences and when you go there, speak with the owner marc or his assistant bruce, tell them what you want adn what you like, they will tell you exactly which ladies you should select.

if you experience the eden club too late during your stay, you might feel as if you missed out on something great!
i know people who only want to go to the eden club, everyday during their holiday.

in my opinion, there are only a few places where you are guaranteed an excellent service:

1. eden club
2. tulip massage
3. star of light (blowjob bar, and more)
4. annies massage

eden club has an edge over all the above because they have a money back guarantee policy! if you are not happ with the way things went during your session, tell the manager adn they will give you your money back immediately.

eden club is a little too much for me, i have tried it twice adn while the ladies are really good at what they do, it is all a little too pornographic for my shy ego :d

[Goyave]

in my opinion, there are only a few places where you are guaranteed an excellent service:

1. eden club
2. tulip massage
3. star of light (blowjob bar, and more)
4. annies massagei think that you can add at least [CodeWord900] (http://www.lolitasbangkok.com) (the other famous bj bar in sukhumvit soi 8) to you list, nicfrenchy. i've been there several times and have always been very satisfied so far. once, the young lady that i had selected probably had just finished eating a som tam (spicy papaya salad) and if i usually enjoy spicy thai food, my dick does not appreciate it as much as my stomach. the girl was giving me head for a few minutes when it started to be rather painful and i told her that my cock was almost on fire. she apologized and talked to the mamasan / cashier lady who offered me a full refund if i did not want to have another girl. i did appreciate their attitude and commercial practice.

about eden club, their concept is indeed great and it should be tried at least once by every monger visiting bangkok, but most of the girls are (in my humble opinion) just average in looks. they are really skilled and very professional (maybe a little bit too much for my taste too). i did not like the fake moanings that started before i even did anything that could have justified them though.

but it's true that almost everything is possible there and this place certainly deserves being recommended.

[Nvslim]

Eden club is a little too much for me, I have tried it twice adn while the ladies are really good at what they do, it is all a little too pornographic for my shy ego :D


From your reports, you are the last person I thought I would ever hear that from :-).

Slim

[M P Lurker]

From your reports, you are the last person I thought I would ever hear that from :-).

Slim
For me, there are several problems at Eden.
The first is lacking in really pretty girls.

The second is that girls are doing a business and are a bit too business procedural. They get well paid to put up with all types of things. But its all rather fake and I its too obvious they are just acting. Or maybe I didn't get the best girls. I reckon it would be "fakeness" and lack of chemistry that puts Nic off too.
I wasn't very friendly in the line up and they took exception to me asking the names of the ones I was interested in.

Tulip could easily be just the same, but I get a different feeling there. Although the girl has duties to perform, I allow her more latitude to do what turns her on and she doesn't have to put on an act with me. Yok, for example, really seems to enjoy what she is doing. Its much more go with the flow.
The Tulip lineup is much more friendly in style, once you go downstairs.

If I can tell the girl is fake and putting on an act, I would find a different girl. I like more natural interaction even though its financial transaction.

Did guys ever experience taking a young inexperienced girl for LT, and then have her keep waking you up through the night wanting another round of sex. Perhaps she never had much good sex before??? or just real horny.
Its something special when there is clearly no act and the girl is really enjoying the sex. This is possible very often in Thailand, but rare back home where hookers are just far too business like.

[Eric Burden]

For me, there are several problems at Eden.
The first is lacking in really pretty girls.

The second is that girls are doing a business and are a bit too business procedural. They get well paid to put up with all types of things. But its all rather fake and I its too obvious they are just acting. Or maybe I didn't get the best girls. I reckon it would be "fakeness" and lack of chemistry that puts Nic off too.


I still go to Eden once in a while because the girls are talented and can always get me off. I agree with Mick that it is too "procedural". They follow a program. The girls are ok looking, not great. My experienece is that they never get wet, never get off and do not enjoy the sex ..it is just a job. So i agree with Mick. Their pussies are also loose. I think all this is because they fuck all day long and it has just lost it's magic. Eden girl's oral skills and attitude are great, though.

Like Mick, I also like the girls that are really into the sex. I am more likely to find this is they are new to the game or if they only have a few customers a month. I have had both good looking girls and plain girls that got wet and orgasmed but find the plain girls more likely to get off. Treating them nice (like a girlfriend) complimenting them and listening seems to bring out the best in them. A surprising number of ladies really get off on the sex. I am young looking and reasonably attractive. Best places I have found for this are Pattaya and Singapore. Worst places are BKK and Kuala Lumpur.


EB

[JuiceGuy]

Does anyone know anything about the upscale private clubs like Soprano House? I have been there before but could not figure out what was available, where, and for how much.

If you are into the music, it is definitely a cool place to check out. The girls are 9-10's but I don't know if they are available and if they are if their prices are ridiculous.

Please let me know your thoughts.

[NicFrenchy]

i think that you can add at least [CodeWord900] (http://www.lolitasbangkok.com) (the other famous bj bar in sukhumvit soi 8) to you list, nicfrenchy. i've been there several times and have always been very satisfied so far.

hi goyave,

i will never go back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). not after what the owners and mamasans do to these girls. there is a big scam going on there where the mamasan scams the girls (i might write about it one day).

another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, no days are allowed off! considering they have a 3000b barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! i like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off!

[NicFrenchy]

If you are into the music, it is definitely a cool place to check out. The girls are 9-10's but I don't know if they are available and if they are if their prices are ridiculous.

I have heard of this place however if I were you I would proceed with extreme caution. I have heard it is a very trendy Hi-so Hangout so:

1. Farangs are tolerated but not really welcome
2. If you just go as to "talk" with the wrong girl, you can end up in a coffin

[NicFrenchy]

From your reports, you are the last person I thought I would ever hear that from :-).

Slim

Yeah, I'm not a shy guy but having not only 1 girl but 2 girls scream "fuck my ass baby" is not appealing to me at all.
I like my sex to be gentle and sensual, maybe I am a romantic at heart :D

[Goyave]

hi goyave,

i will never go back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). not after what the owners and mamasans do to these girls. there is a big scam going on there where the mamasan scams the girls (i might write about it one day).

another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, no days are allowed off! considering they have a 3000b barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! i like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off!wow! that's indeed weird. i am a bit surprised but you must have more recent information than i have. i only once barfined a girl from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in bangkok. at that time (four years ago if i am not mistaken) it was only 600 baht for 3 hours (i don't know how much it was for a lt session though) and 600 baht was also the normal rate for one bj on premises. this girl was sweet and funny and we talked a bit together between two shots during this 3 hour session in my hotel room and she was (apparently) quite happy to work there (i don't know how many hours a day it was then, but she used to arrive only at 5pm and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) closing at 1am, it could not have been more than 8 hours, i guess). she told me that she had one day-off a week (yes, that's approximately 4 days a month).

of course, i've been there regularly since but have not barfined anyone nor have talked much with the girls then, therefore, i can't say what the current situation is at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and you certainly are better informed than i am. i'd really like to know more about the scam going on there if you can enlighten me one of these days.

[Member #3428]

But its all rather fake and I its too obvious they are just acting. .....Tulip could easily be just the same, but I get a different feeling there.

I'll also agree that Eden is too fake for me but it has a special place in BKK and mongering circles. It is still a place I think everyone should do once in their life. Tulip... while some girls can be fake as anything there are some girls that are just good at what they do. So I don't put Tulip in the same league as Eden. Tulip can be PSE with some GFE as well mixed in. With the right girl of course. How many complaints about Tulip girls or negative reports are there??? Not many I would assume.


Did guys ever experience taking a young inexperienced girl for LT, and then have her keep waking you up through the night wanting another round of sex. Perhaps she never had much good sex before??? or just real horny.
Its something special when there is clearly no act and the girl is really enjoying the sex.

Damn Mick were you in the room with me and the GF??? In other words yes exactly... the sexual chemistry was just perfect from the first night and only got better over time.... In fact it was so good I'm still keeping her around ;) And the reasons she's still around is what you said above... There was no act and after time we got to know each other more about other things other then just sex. So she's still in my phonebook and still see her of course...


Like Mick, I also like the girls that are really into the sex. I am more likely to find this is they are new to the game or if they only have a few customers a month. I have had both good looking girls and plain girls that got wet and orgasmed but find the plain girls more likely to get off. Treating them nice (like a girlfriend) complimenting them and listening seems to bring out the best in them.

I will agree for me also that some of the best sex I've had are with girls that are not "superstars"... girls that have few customers or girls that are more shy (less english abilities or such). I found that girls that sit in corners or away from customers (but will look and smile at you of course but are shy to come talk to you) and are not pushing themselves all over you usually are the better sex for me. YMMV but I don't need a girl who is all pushy and quick and business like...

[Daddy07]

hi goyave,

i will never go back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). not after what the owners and mamasans do to these girls. there is a big scam going on there where the mamasan scams the girls (i might write about it one day).

another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, no days are allowed off! considering they have a 3000b barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! i like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off!
ok, so you're not going back to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s because the girls are treated mean by the mammasan, have to blow every john who comes in the door, and won't get a day off this month. so how is your behavior going to help the girls?

i agree, it's not a pleasant situation, but i think it's better for the girls that you go. you will get a nice blowjob and they will get some much needed money during the holiday season -- a win win proposition. :)

[Flyhere]

...Another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! Usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, NO days are allowed off! Considering they have a 3000B barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! I like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off!
Nic,

I agree that the owners are merciless and it's a bit much. Scams of course are bad and it would be good to hear about them.

It's supposed to be the peak season, so I believe all places are trying to maximize their revenue, so compulsory working days or some sort of special rules everywhere. All girls must work on weekends, for example, at Luxury.

This is the time when your regular will love you for seeing her outside. She makes the same money but only servicing one customer, gets to take things easy, may be a meal or two thrown in.

fly

[M P Lurker]

ok, so you're not going back to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s because the girls are treated mean by the mammasan, have to blow every john who comes in the door, and won't get a day off this month. so how is your behavior going to help the girls?

i agree, it's not a pleasant situation, but i think it's better for the girls that you go. you will get a nice blowjob and they will get some much needed money during the holiday season -- a win win proposition. :)
if there was a really special girl there, maybe support her.
but only ugly girls are willing to put up with the conditions. i won't be going back again even though unaware of what nic was referring to.
the girls don't get too enjoy themselves and that spoils my mood too. some of them don't even take their cloths off.

at sol, can bf the girl cheaply, then she can decide if she wants to go back or have the rest of the day off.

[NicFrenchy]

A lot of people inquired about the girl I took for 3,000 LT @ shark Bar : Miss Jib #90.

Had a great time with her but was too long ago to write a review. Maybe I'll go see her again but, she is a very popular girl.

[NicFrenchy]

Wow! That's indeed weird. I am a bit surprised but you must have more recent information than I have.

It's not recent, it has been going on for some time. Don't get nervous, the scam is on the girls, not the customers. You still get blown for 700.


I'd really like to know more about the scam going on there if you can enlighten me one of these days.

I don't want to publicly post it here but if you are curious, drop me a PM

[Retired Army]

Does anyone know anything about the upscale private clubs like Soprano House? I have been there before but could not figure out what was available, where, and for how much.

If you are into the music, it is definitely a cool place to check out. The girls are 9-10's but I don't know if they are available and if they are if their prices are ridiculous.

Please let me know your thoughts.

I recommend the Pegagus Club.

[Retired Army]

Guys,

Have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?


This is not an uncommon request. There used to be several girls in the Huntsman Pub (Landmark Hotel, Sukhumvit Soi 4-6) that specialized in couples and un-accompanied women. Haven't been there in a while so I'm not sure what the situation is now.

However, if you visit some of the upscale hotel bars or clubs I am sure you won't have any trouble finding someone to accomodate your desires. I recommend you check out Spaso's.

[NicFrenchy]

i agree, it's not a pleasant situation, but i think it's better for the girls that you go. you will get a nice blowjob and they will get some much needed money during the holiday season -- a win win proposition. :)

actually, the last time i went there have not been mind blowing (pun intended). i get much better experiences at sol. the girls there really know how to blow a man. i agree it is not as private as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), but its raunchiness kind of appeals to me now.

the last time i was there, i had my first blow on sofa#2. the first time i was getting blown in public. there were a couple girls around and 2 of them participated without me asking them (which means i did not get charged 700 per girl). i heard one guy enter but did not even see anything, plenty to keep me busy: i was getting blown, fingers in 2 pussies, sucking on tits, my nipples being licked... even with 3 girls it took me a good 20mn to finish.

i ended up paying the girl i ordered 700 thb to the bar. gave her 400 tip. also gave 500 to each participant.

total cost: 2,500 (including drinks)

a real bargain.

[Member #3428]

However, if you visit some of the upscale hotel bars or clubs I am sure you won't have any trouble finding someone to accomodate your desires. I recommend you check out Spaso's.

From my experience it turns out to be a much better session if the Lady / female initiates the conversations and the looking for another girl then having the guy take the lead. Atleast in my experience. If in a P4P location having the girl talk to the mamasan helps also and buying her some drinks to bring some girls around who are possible play mates.

Finding a girl to join a couple is easy, many girls will say they can do. But most will just play act it and not do "much" with the girl and / or guy. So after a few bad experiences what was difficult was having the girl I was with back then find a girl who she liked who would do all we wanted her to do. It's almost like finding a mutual Gik that she and I both could agree on.

My girl was very particular about who she wanted to bring back with us. Looks did not matter to her at all, attitude, cleanliness, education, home village, and all sorts of things mattered to her whereas for me, hell I am a bastard I just wanted sex... So with the girl finding another girl it turned out to sound more like a job interview then anything else.

But once we found that "one" it was it turned into a very nice relationship that lasted a while with no "issues"

[Carpediemyes]

A lot of people inquired about the girl I took for 3,000 LT @ shark Bar : Miss Jib #90. Had a great time with her but was too long ago to write a review. Maybe I'll go see her again but, she is a very popular girl.Wow that lady looks anorexic to me.

Maybe her genes give her skinny legs, but it is often a sign of a girl struggling with self esteem. Hope I am wrong for her sake.

Sexy face though.

[M P Lurker]

From my experience it turns out to be a much better session if the Lady / female initiates the conversations and the looking for another girl then having the guy take the lead. Atleast in my experience. If in a P4P location having the girl talk to the mamasan helps also and buying her some drinks to bring some girls around who are possible play mates.

Its much easier for single guys getting two girls as can get two that are close friends and have experience together.

Otherwise with a guy/girl looking for another girl, probably the girl has to find another girl that she likes, which takes time.

[FlyingVisitor]

[quote=nicfrenchy]...... i get much better experiences at sol. the girls there really know how to blow a man. i agree it is not as private as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), but its raunchiness kind of appeals to me now.....

the last time i was there, i had my first blow on sofa#2. the first time i was getting blown in public. there were a couple girls around and 2 of them participated without me asking them (which means i did not get charged 700 per girl). i heard one guy enter but did not even see anything, plenty to keep me busy: i was getting blown, fingers in 2 pussies, sucking on tits, my nipples being licked... even with 3 girls it took me a good 20mn to finish......


it is good to recommend again sol to the membership. i feel we should exchange from time to time our experiences made there. sol is also my favourite plaxe # 1.
the atmosphere is pricking and the applied techniques brilliant.

[JuiceGuy]

This is not an uncommon request. There used to be several girls in the Huntsman Pub (Landmark Hotel, Sukhumvit Soi 4-6) that specialized in couples and un-accompanied women. Haven't been there in a while so I'm not sure what the situation is now.

However, if you visit some of the upscale hotel bars or clubs I am sure you won't have any trouble finding someone to accomodate your desires. I recommend you check out Spaso's.

Thanks. Where is Pegasus Club? How does it work there? Any idea?

[JuiceGuy]

I recommend the Pegagus Club.

Thanks. Where is Pegasus Club? What is the situation there?

[Member #3428]

Its much easier for single guys getting two girls as can get two that are close friends and have experience together.

Otherwise with a guy/girl looking for another girl, probably the girl has to find another girl that she likes, which takes time.

Yes... of course... for a single guy. But when you alerady have a female partner and looking for a joiner... it is much more difficult decision. Especially if that partner is a long time girl friend or wife or such like Fun Couple supposedly are.

Getting that joiner to be open and willing on both and having your female partner open and willing to the guy playing with the joiner or such is not an easy task to accomplish.

As I said you can easily get a girl to join you but it is usually more BS then action. So letting the female partner take the lead in their case is what I suggest, just due to my past experience.

What might make things easier is that the couple is from out of town and probably don't care who sees or knows what.

[Retired Army]

Thanks. Where is Pegasus Club? What is the situation there?


It's off Sukhumvit Soi 23. Hard to explain how to get there. Check their website for directions. Also do a search in the Forum for Pegagus Club for more reports,

[NicFrenchy]

It's off Sukhumvit Soi 23. Hard to explain how to get there. Check their website for directions. Also do a search in the Forum for Pegagus Club for more reports,

It's in the Sub Soi linking Soi 23 and 31. Just get off at Asoke BTS and take a motorcycle Taxi to Pegasus: 2 minutes adn 20thb.

[M P Lurker]

It's in the Sub Soi linking Soi 23 and 31. Just get off at Asoke BTS and take a motorcycle Taxi to Pegasus: 2 minutes adn 20thb.
I 'started' a Map on clubs:
Pegasus is shown.

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ll=13.737968,100.56402&spn=0.011923,0.017681&z=16&msid=112522687346612693021.00044e047c3ee856f6f45

[Aybolit]

i've been to bangkok and pattaya a few years ago for the first time, spent some time in the north of thailand back then as well. this time, i am more limited by time and am there with a buddy going for only 8 days. i would really appreciate suggestions on how best to manage our time, and which cities to spend our time in. goal is mongering/sightseeing/beach [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117).

so far i was thinking 2-3 days bangkok, 2 days pattaya, and 2-3 days in phuket. i think this is managable to do in 8 days. or maybe i should spend my time differently? this is my friends first time in thailand and i want him to fully appreciate the place.

thanx

[Fast Eddie 48]

It's in the Sub Soi linking Soi 23 and 31. Just get off at Asoke BTS and take a motorcycle Taxi to Pegasus: 2 minutes adn 20thb.NIC,

I don't think you want to take a motobike to Pegasus, the captain and everyone will laugh at you, this is a high class place everyone arrive in expensive car.

Fast eddie 48

[Satrai2000]

NIC,

I don't think you want to take a motobike to Pegasus, the captain and everyone will laugh at you, this is a high class place everyone arrive in expensive car.

Fast eddie 48Hi,

Last year I spent an evening in this club Pegasus. A man (western tourist) wearing sandals and shorts came in. Probably just to have a look; after about 10 minutes he left.

[FlyingVisitor]

Wow that lady looks anorexic to me.

Maybe her genes give her skinny legs, but it is often a sign of a girl struggling with self esteem. Hope I am wrong for her sake.

Sexy face though.


Another reason also might be: HIV +
A situation why it is also called "slim disease".

FV

[ThaiLearner]

i've been to bangkok and pattaya a few years ago for the first time, spent some time in the north of thailand back then as well. this time, i am more limited by time and am there with a buddy going for only 8 days. i would really appreciate suggestions on how best to manage our time, and which cities to spend our time in. goal is mongering/sightseeing/beach [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117).

so far i was thinking 2-3 days bangkok, 2 days pattaya, and 2-3 days in phuket. i think this is managable to do in 8 days. or maybe i should spend my time differently? this is my friends first time in thailand and i want him to fully appreciate the place.

thanx


you will end up spending most of time travelling may be only do 2 out of 3 places at the most

[BionicMan]

i've been to bangkok and pattaya a few years ago for the first time, spent some time in the north of thailand back then as well. this time, i am more limited by time and am there with a buddy going for only 8 days. i would really appreciate suggestions on how best to manage our time, and which cities to spend our time in. goal is mongering/sightseeing/beach [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117).

so far i was thinking 2-3 days bangkok, 2 days pattaya, and 2-3 days in phuket. i think this is managable to do in 8 days. or maybe i should spend my time differently? this is my friends first time in thailand and i want him to fully appreciate the place.

thanx
as thailerner wisely advised, concentrate in one-two spots and make the best out of it. mongering is not a night-only activity, but it is true that quite some fun can be had at nights. maybe bangkok (3 nights) and pattaya (4-5 nights) could be the two locations where to spend the time in thailand and...discover all.

[Member #3428]

so far i was thinking 2-3 days bangkok, 2 days pattaya, and 2-3 days in phuket. i think this is managable to do in 8 days. or maybe i should spend my time differently? this is my friends first time in thailand and i want him to fully appreciate the place.

i'm with the rest of the folks, do only two places. the three locations are very different (atelast to me) and by the time you get the lay of the land so to speak it would be time to move on. my first trip to phuket i didn't know the lay of the land and it took me a while to figure out which bars are best and such. even rtff it still took me a while to get into the swing of things down there and basically started to pick up the local area on my second trip.

many of us have debated or bantered over time what we prefer bkk or pattaya in terms of mongering so pick one of those and phuket since you say you want [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) and such. or pick a different location like phi phi or krabi or such if you are so inclined. to me phuket isn't all "that" more hype then anything else.

but only do two locations on 8 days. hell next week i'm spending over 9 days in bkk and that still won't be enough time for me. ;)

[Retired Army]

NIC,

I don't think you want to take a motobike to Pegasus, the captain and everyone will laugh at you, this is a high class place everyone arrive in expensive car.

Fast eddie 48

That would be pretty freaking funny arriving at Pegagus on a motorcycle or tuk-tuk. Right next to a guy in a tux in a Mercedes limo.

Also, don't wear shorts or flip-flops. Dress properly, no jeans and a tie wouldn't be out of place.

[NicFrenchy]

That would be pretty freaking funny arriving at Pegagus on a motorcycle or tuk-tuk. Right next to a guy in a tux in a Mercedes limo.

Also, don't wear shorts or flip-flops. Dress properly, no jeans and a tie wouldn't be out of place.

Guys, if you really want to make all the girls crawl at your feet, here is how to dress at Pegasus:

Get a bright Yellow Shirt (they will see you know Thailand and respect its traditions), wear it over a pair of Jeans (very cool & Trendy these days), They also love Converse ALLSTAR shoes.
Open 3 buttons of your Shirt and show the latest Amulet (the bigger the better) and girls will love you for being so "in tune" with their buddhist culture"

[M P Lurker]

Yes... of course... for a single guy. But when you alerady have a female partner and looking for a joiner... it is much more difficult decision. Especially if that partner is a long time girl friend or wife or such like Fun Couple supposedly are.

Another problem for Fun Couple.

Some thai girls are bi-sexuals but much prefer to have sex with another Thai girl than a western woman.

A western woman needs to pay extreme attention to cleanliness as Thai girls are expecting pussy to have absolutely no odour or taste. And indeed this is why many men prefer asian girls.

Unfortuantely some western woman have "smelly pussy". Fortunately this is not all of them. But westerners must always take extreme care with cleaning (men too).
Thai girls use a special cleaning product for the pussy.
One of them is called "Lactacyd" (spelling?)

[ReallyaNiceGuy]

.

After walking up the street checking with several places I finally found a room at the Nanatai Mansion, 1200 Baht for 2 beds with no breakfast and no internet but with my MacBook Pro sitting on the balcony window I picked up several free connections that work great.
It showered, dressed and headed toward Nana Plaza, stopped at McDonalds for a bite to eat and then to Nana Plaza. I walked all around, looked in a few places and stopped in at Pretty Lady, one of the girls dancing on stage caught my eye and I asked her to join me, we had a couple of drinks and got along well together so I asked if she wanted to go with me, we cleared up a few things I wanted, DFK and BBBJ, she agreed, how much, sorry but I forget what the BF was but she was 2000 ST and 3000 LT, I opted for the ST, paid the tab and BF while she changed, taxi to my hotel and the fun begun. Her name was Joy, 27 years old, short and while not one of those very thin ones she had a nice little body. I was very happy with her and her performance/service.

At first Joy was a little shy about me taking photos but after a couple she really got into it. I got about 5 more too. Still didn't want her face shown though.

Mike

[Rjsss212]

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I 'started' a Map on clubs:
Pegasus is shown.

A noble and much appreciated task indeed! For my money though it is hard to beat the guide to the big mango Bangkok map. See link:

http://guide.2thebigmango.com/city-map-guide/?cityid=Bangkok

[NicFrenchy]

A noble and much appreciated task indeed! For my money though it is hard to beat the guide to the big mango Bangkok map.

Yeah, I had a look at that map however I do not really trust it. Looking at the massage section, they completely overlooked Soi 24, 24/1, 26 (where most the Oilies are)

Soi 24/1 is also called Soi Oily for a reason.

Their Soi 22 Massage list contains 1 place: Sazanka
They completely missed : Angel 22, Hana Massage, Aurora, Rose Massage (former Kornwan)

Basically, this map is very incomplete when it comes to Oil/Thai Massage Places.

[Rjsss212]

Yeah, I had a look at that map however I do not really trust it. Looking at the massage section, they completely overlooked Soi 24, 24/1, 26 (where most the Oilies are)

Soi 24/1 is also called Soi Oily for a reason.

Their Soi 22 Massage list contains 1 place: Sazanka
They completely missed : Angel 22, Hana Massage, Aurora, Rose Massage (former Kornwan)

Basically, this map is very incomplete when it comes to Oil/Thai Massage Places.


Granted, but is there a better one presently available?

[Michi]

hi,

did the direct compare (again) yesterday. somehow i still believe [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) will catch up one day and i keep going back there.

but i get disappointed every time.

not that they are bad ot something (is there a real bad bbbj, anyway? ), but they are simply no compare to sol.

[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), go in with the chosen girl in the afternoon (n**, young, 6 on the scale, real nice tits after unpacking), order a dring, don't get any chemistry at talking, she asks "go upstairs", answer of cause: yep!

has to be asked to undress as well, running away for a minute (i actually hate that part because you are sitting there on the bench, looking around at the dirty place thinking: what the hell am i doing in such a place?

coming back, undressing, wiping with the cold towels, and starting to lick and blow. one hand quite nicely handling the balls, the mouth somehow not deep enough, the other hand frantically trying to jack me off, . and too much teeth. had to interfere with the show and guide her a little and after a while i managed to finish, where some of the stuff shot into her hair as she withdrew too early. cleaning with the other towels, going downstairs, nothing to say, check bin, bye, . barely satisfied.

earlier the day went to sol. not even close to the place enlightened smiles of the girls, waving and hi michael, how are you, long time no see.

go inside sit, the drink is coming without asking as they remember.

a** and l** join me on number 2 couch and start chatting and playing.

telling about boss birthday party that is why so few girls in this morning, big party, sanuk mak mak! starting to play more and urging me to get the pants down. getting their cleaning, oiling and other stuff without the interruption of the atmosphere (if there is to speek of that as one in sol, as a very special one) ans starting to go down on me. licking nipples, licking and kissing everywhere, and blowing the hell out of me, continuously changing between the two of them. and then i even got a total new experience form one of the girls: when she had the feeling that i am getting excited and close, she took me all in, great dt and somehow started to massgae my d*** deep inside only with her throat. that made me shoot like crazy into her. afterwards there was nothing to spit into the paper as everything went down starit her throat already. almost fell in love to the girl because of that! chatted on, they tried to get me to a second round, but i was able to resist as i wanted to try the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) experience later. i should have stayed. payed, warm bye, see you again soon, left as a happy man!

still an amazing place,

mike

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[M P Lurker]

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I 'started' a Map on clubs:
Pegasus is shown.

A noble and much appreciated task indeed! For my money though it is hard to beat the guide to the big mango Bangkok map. See link:

http://guide.2thebigmango.com/city-map-guide/?cityid=Bangkok
Well obviously I'm biased but try this Map for comparison:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.744554,100.560265&spn=0.047689,0.070724&z=14

It has links to a Sukhumvit Hotels Map and to a BKK Soapies Map. In the end, should be a lot more than at the BigMango

Soon I will attempt a Short Time Hotels Map for mongering areas because this is covered not very well.

[William Rose]

Did a search on here for the big mango bar and didn't return much. I'm just wondering if anyone has spent any time with the lovely ladies there or can offer any insight? On the surface it would seem like a decent comfortable bar without the scamming eat you alive types.

[Boomer29]

A lot of people inquired about the girl I took for 3, 000 LT at shark Bar: Miss Jib #90.

Had a great time with her but was too long ago to write a review. Maybe I'll go see her again but, she is a very popular girl. I'm with Nic on this one.

I was lucky enough to be one of her 1st "friends" when she arrived in BKK (over 3 years ago now). Sweet, funny, sexy and yes. Very slim. Perfect little bottom! Good "skills"!

She's a "superstar" at Shark now. Tatoos galore and a harder, business-like edge. But she still comes and says "Hi! " or stops for a drink when I visit. If you ever get the chance. Go for it! You won't regret it!