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I told the Mamasan that I like "tongue in ass" , two shots and BBBJ with CIM and / or CIF. The cost is still only 2100- for 90 min. You can cum as often as you can in the allotted time. The Mamasan pointed out the ugliest girl for my desired service, but a very cute Isan girl (named Beauty) gave me this huge smile and was eager to please me, so I chose her.As you found out, I believe every girl has what you want on their menu. But most of the girls are on the ugly side. Beauty was decent, not ugly. On my scale, she was a 6, the only girl that was acceptable for me. But she definitely was a performer.
- For the last couple of years, it seems they got rid of full nudity. Last week, observed full nudity at Twisters (the one on the first floor), and couple of other bars. Still no nudity at Billboards.
- I went into or looked at most of the non-LB bars. IMO, the best talent was at Rainbow 4 (the one on the second floor). It was packed with girls and customers.
Line up of girls is on their Twitter Feed.
Prices are communicated over WeChat or Line.
I was quoted 3 k for 60 min and 3.5 k for 90 min.
Hope this helps.Awesome, I figured something like that happened. I'll refer him to this place and make sure he RTFF.
Member #4733
11-18-19, 21:30
Thus my question to DioRetz, where in German FKK, where entry alone is 50 Euros and each 30 min is also 30 Euros, do you get such performance from the girls? I sincerely hope you don't get it. I don't like anal, not giving nor receiving. I don't like to face fuck or anything like that. It is not very common in FKK land. What is more to the point is comparing your own experiences. I had some bad luck in Germany but not much. I had only one good experience in Thailand. And I tried a lot. Then about finances. Including drinks I spent 250 euro on my last misery in Thailand. I think each person must honestly say what they like or not and then others can make up their minds about that. Your preferences and your experiences differ very much from mine. So enjoy.
Trip report:
Just got back from a session at Thermae / Ruamchit. It was excellent.
First, I went to Soi Cowboy around 7, a bit early but many customers are already drinking outside and waiting for prime time. Walked through the soi and went into Crazy House. There were about 7 patrons and 5 girls on stage. Several of the girls were fully nude which gave me my first boner of the day and got me a bit excited for the night. The mamasan was super friendly / polite and non-pushy. I got a Heineken for 170 be and tipped her 30 be. After 10 minutes, mamasan looked at me and made a finger into hole on the other hand and motion in and out -the universal sign language for bang- I smiled and said no. There were a couple of tall slim girls with perfect bodies and big fake tits. A few of them had tattoos. There was a rotation of girls every 20 minutes or so. I left to go to Thermae after 2 rotations. I would have love to fuck a couple of them but alas I only have 1 bullet and have to save it for the one.
Walked to Thermae, got there 10 min before 8. There were so many guys and girls outside waiting for it to open. It is quite an interesting scene. If people walk by, I would imagine they be puzzling what's going on. Got a drink from Ruamchit lobby and sat down to wait and look for my potential partner for the night. The bar didn't open until 8:10. I saw 1 girl who was probably in the top 5 there, almost asked her before the bar even open but decided to wait to see others. Walked in and got a drink at the bar on the left. Then proceeded to walk from the left and going clockwise. Saw a couple of hotties but when I looped around, saw a stunner on the left who is super smiley. Went to chat with her. I surprised her and she looked a bit shocked because of English, she then responded and said something which I heard 2000. I happily OK, she asked where, I pointed upstairs. Paid the 800 be for room fee and condoms to Ruamchit. I really liked her personality as she had decent English, was bubbly talkative, said she studied at university, she is 23 yo. She was beautiful, I couldn't believe my luck. The early bird gets the worm I suppose.
We got to our room and showered. Ruamchit is a nice hotel, very clean and modern, I was very happy with it. She then asked me to pay first, I gave her 2000 but she then said 3000, I guess I misheard her the first time. I happily obliged. She was very GF like. She was playful and flirty, saying she shy and kept trying to dim the lights, and how big I am. I think she really mean it too because she say it many times. And ask how come I'm so big. She knows how to flatter me LOL. Gave me a good and long bb BJ. It was fucking amazing. It was a beautiful sight. She then put on the condom which is tiny. She couldn't put it on and asked me to help her. Condom fit down like 60% of my shaft so we just continue with it. We did missionary, doggy, cowgirl, deep french kiss. While doggy I put my finger on her beautiful buthole and there was 0 resistance. I almost came but tried not to. I then put her on missionary and came when she told me: "cum into my pussy". My vision got blurry when I came, it was like I was on drugs. Man what an experience. Wish I could have recorded it. We then cleaned up. She said I can leave first. I tipped her 300 be. When leaving I saw a young white guy with a girl coming up. She was super hot as well. I was like wow, I love this place.
Thermae and Ruamchit combo is the thing to do. There were like 5 girls there that were 9 or 10 out of 10. The whole process, the quality of the girls, the nice rooms, all add up to an amazing experience. I'm definitely coming back.Great report and always love to read one of a positive encounter on the tour. Have to ask though, are you Asian? In all the many times I have toured through Thermae I have not been able to interest the girls because of all the Asian guys that they are interested in. Nothing wrong with that at all, just saying that it has not been a happy hunting ground for this non-Asian punter!
Happy Hunting.
TravelToMeet
11-19-19, 05:26
Great report and always love to read one of a positive encounter on the tour. Have to ask though, are you Asian? In all the many times I have toured through Thermae I have not been able to interest the girls because of all the Asian guys that they are interested in. Nothing wrong with that at all, just saying that it has not been a happy hunting ground for this non-Asian punter!
Happy Hunting.But never been able to get a good one from Thermaxe. They are interested only in White guys and Japaneese.
As you found out, I believe every girl has what you want on their menu. But most of the girls are on the ugly side. Beauty was decent, not ugly. On my scale, she was a 6, the only girl that was acceptable for me. But she definitely was a performer.Yes I agree on Beauty, even though not huge experience. Not as slim as I normally pick but her big smile was a winner. Best available at the time (not difficult). Her name is a slight exaggeration. Ha ha. In the room I was happy enough too. I could repeat for her nice pussy and nice smile.
Trip report:
Just got back from a session at Thermae / Ruamchit. It was excellent.
First, I went to Soi Cowboy around 7, a bit early but many customers are already drinking outside and waiting for prime time. Walked through the soi and went into Crazy House. Probably wise to get to Thermae early. It gets over crowded. I never got offered 2000, so that had to be too good to be true, as you learned. However I also never recently got a girl as good as yours.
7 is too early for Crazy House. Its just possible that some of the best standard girls will be still arriving between 9 PM and 9. 30 PM. E. g. Girls with good natural tits too. I don't really attend any more. It has gone downhill. The less popular girls cannot afford late fines and so may well start early.
PutinEatsJizz
11-20-19, 02:34
But never been able to get a good one from Thermaxe. They are interested only in White guys and Japaneese.I must be visiting a different thermae's.
I've only seen this happen once in thermae when a dark skinned dude walked up to a girl, and she immediately shook her head (and she wasn't even in the top 20 hottest girls there).
99.9% girls will at least talk to the dude, and the price / service negotiations is probably what kills the deal (rather than ethnicity / nationality).
AmericanThief
11-20-19, 06:51
What's the latest on best place for a threesome? What is really the difference between oil vs soapy? Aren't they both body mattress sessions with unattractive old single mothers?
But never been able to get a good one from Thermaxe. They are interested only in White guys and Japaneese.Interested in white guys? Hmmm my experience would say: Japanese interest (almost) only. Mayb some Chinese now or Koreans. But middle aged whitte dudes get little looks from the hotties there.
Some rare girls waiting in the street in the evening outside Nana Plaza can be as young and as good-looking as the girls in the go-gos. Their asking price is 1500.
The average-looking ones will ask 1000.
Strictly covered blowjobs in this SW venue according to my sample so far (4 girls).
Quite a few stunners in the go-gos. Short time price on a par with FKK Globe in Zurich though.
Some rare girls waiting in the street in the evening outside Nana Plaza can be as young and as good-looking as the girls in the go-gos. Their asking price is 1500.
The average-looking ones will ask 1000.
Strictly covered blowjobs in this SW venue according to my sample so far (4 girls).
Quite a few stunners in the go-gos. Short time price on a par with FKK Globe in Zurich though.Never had a problem with BBBJ from SWs on soi 4.
The fact that ST is the same price as Zurich shows just how ridiculous prices in Bkk have become.
BestTimeEver
11-20-19, 18:46
After arriving in BKK, I first wanted to try out Line and ThaiFriendly. A bit disappointed in Line so far, but have to be fair also, it is still early.
After installing Line with my brand new Thai phone number, I set up a new account. After that I have only been looking for the 'People Nearby' function, which I could not find. It is supposed to be there, but my Line app looks different from any screenshot online. Where some Line apps have a menu option 'More' at the bottom of the screen (behind which the Nearby function should be located), this Line app has the option 'Wallet' which is something different entirely. And yes, I have updated the pp to the most recent version. Any ideas?
For ThaiFriendly, I did the same. With my Thai phone number I created an account, uploaded a picture and liked some ladies. A bunch are ugly and not many seem to be into p4 p (stating this explicitly in their profile). But interesting contacts start to come in now, so will probably give it a shot sometime soon.
BestTimeEver
11-20-19, 18:49
First night in town and eager, but also very tired from the travel. So I decided to take it slow, building up energy for the days to cum. I wanted to take a look at Nana without barfining any girl (just scouting for future purposes) and I wanted to have a beer at the Beer Garten in soi 7.
Before entering nana, I cruised soi 4 a bit. A lot of ugly and / or old girls, also in the beer bars IMHO. There were a few pretty girls, but their silicones were just over the top. If well proportioned I personally don't mind sillies, but this was too much. A pitty, because their faces and bodies looked good.
Going into Nana, I walked around the various floors and peeked into the bars. This was at 8 pm, so even though still early I thought there would be at least some action. But unfortunately there were almost no girls dancing. In only a few bars there was some action, including nude titties, but not good enough for me to enter.
So on my way to Beer Garten, where I had some moderate success on previous trips. Got a beer and looked around. Many older girls, but a few not older ones too. There was a small group of girls laughing and being enthousiastic. I wanted to sit next to one of these girls, but when I approached her I saw she was older than I thought. Her friend's face was way better up close, so I sat with her. We just had a chat and soon enough she began to seduce me. Well, she was really good at it, so she got me. Kisses with tongue and sexy moves and looks, all good!
Soon I bought her and myself another beer, at 115 a piece. She asked me for beer for her friends too, but I said no. That would not have been justified, as there was little interaction with the friends. That was no problem, she apologized for asking. After our beer we went for a ST hotel, the Oyo in soi 7/1 (one alley further away from nana, compared to Beer Garten). Oyo (at 350 baht) was ok-ish but not so clean.
Her service was quite good, total GFE (even though we fucked hard at the end). Shower together and in the bedroom she was all over me. Extensive cat bath, full-on DFK but not a long BBBJ as I was hoping for. Very enthousiastic performer, who busted my nuts and made them feel sore from a big explosion. She had a 6-ish body under her clothes. Just not stunning, though not fat or ugly either. Face for me the best, very sexy.
I paid her 2500. Way to much, I know. But I felt she earned it and we had good chemistry going on. Got her Line details, but not sure whether I will repeat. Body not good enough, so will be looking for something better. If I repeat, it will be for the same price at my own hotel but then for a longer time. All to be agreed up-front via Line.
Noticed this review especially because the punter paid up front after the girl requested it. I usually end the session immediately when that happens because as most us know that almost guarantees a mediocre to bad session. However, in this case, our punter seemed to get his money's worth. That usually is not the case. Also, he said that the girl quoted $2 k baht in Thermae Club but told him it was $3 k baht in the room. This appears highly dubious. Is this now the going price for short term at Thermae?
It's up to us to negotiate harder or it will, as someone else noted, in another thread be Zurich prices if it not already is.
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Quite a few stunners in the go-gos. Short time price on a par with FKK Globe in Zurich though.I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.
I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.
Member #4733
11-20-19, 21:33
At Hormone.
I went to Thermae about 5 times. I don't like it very much but they like me quite a bit. When I showed interest in what I considered the top beauty she flushed and was proud of my interest. I for one was not interested in the perceived service level that I would get.
At Lefeu.
In Tilac for example you may have to pay 2000 baht barfine and at least 3000 short time. You have to treat her a few drinks. That will lift you way above the 5000 baht. In Globe you get food and quite some drinks for free. So why add it to the price for the girl each and every time and forget about the drinks in Thailand. Next to that, in a first session with a girl in Thailand she will try to limit the time to 20 minutes. In Globe she cannot do that. But I do think that Globe is too expensive and overrated.
After arriving in BKK, I first wanted to try out Line and ThaiFriendly. A bit disappointed in Line so far, but have to be fair also, it is still early.
After installing Line with my brand new Thai phone number, I set up a new account. After that I have only been looking for the 'People Nearby' function, which I could not find. It is supposed to be there, but my Line app looks different from any screenshot online. Where some Line apps have a menu option 'More' at the bottom of the screen (behind which the Nearby function should be located), this Line app has the option 'Wallet' which is something different entirely. And yes, I have updated the pp to the most recent version. Any ideas?
....The "People Nearby" feature is not available on Line in Thailand. That's why you don't see it in the menu here.
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Also, he said that the girl quoted $2 k baht in Thermae Club but told him it was $3 k baht in the room. This appears highly dubious. Is this now the going price for short term at Thermae?
It's up to us to negotiate harder or it will, as someone else noted, in another thread be Zurich prices if it not already is.As I recall, he described that Thermae girl as a "stunner". I would say the chances of a better looking than most Thermae girl actually quoting 2,000 baht as an opening number in a negotiation these days is very low, perhaps only if it is her very first day in Bangkok from an outlying province and her first hour in Thermae.
3,000 baht as the opening quote for all but the older, chubbier or more plain looking girls in the place is far more likely and it's been that way for at least a year or two. Yes, many will quickly drop to 2,500 baht if the customer does nothing more than hesitate a nanosecond to accept the quote or appears to be taking a step away from the girl and the negotiation. And I believe negotiating to 2,000 baht is still possible with some of the better looking girls in Thermae if some conditions are right for it; the time of night, day of the month, customer competition, your level of game, presentability, etc.
So, as far as the "going rate" is concerned, I might not be so quick to say 3,000 baht is the new going rate in Thermae. But it is certainly a common starting point for the better looking girls there, imo and in my experience.
I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.
I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.And with drinks, BF, ST hotel, and what the gal wants, your very close to 5 k.
I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.
I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.The 1500 price is for the street girls (that looks as good as girls in go gos). Then he moved on to talk about go gos but did not mention price before making the price comparison
I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.
I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.At Twister's (Nana Plaza, upper floor) I took a girl for 1000 barfine + 3000 for the girl + drinks + a tip the mamasan kept (stole) from me of her own accord. This is over 4000 without short time room. Short time room was 350, + 50 for a bicycle tyre condom (my bad not bringing my condom). The girl had no lube and was dry as concrete. I'm sure they would have sold me a fingernail amount of lube for 100 baht though. In Globe soft drinks would be free as well as the short time rooms, plus there would be in-house food and girls would have their own lube. So all in all a Nana Plaza go-go is now at Globe level in terms of cost.
BestTimeEver
11-21-19, 05:43
The "People Nearby" feature is not available on Line in Thailand. That's why you don't see it in the menu here.Well, that explains it LOL Must be my mistake, I must have misread it, seeing posts in the Vietnam forum or so. My bad.
Warning, kids, don't try this at home. Proceed with caution.But just now, when searching the Thai forum for posts about Line, I did come across this post of yourself: Dating site movie buddy surprise'. Now besides the tricky part of story, this does qualify as a very good time for me, if not one of the best. Great experience!
At Twister's (Nana Plaza, upper floor) I took a girl for 1000 barfine + 3000 for the girl + drinks + a tip the mamasan kept (stole) from me of her own accord. This is over 4000 without short time room. Short time room was 350, + 50 for a bicycle tyre condom (my bad not bringing my condom). The girl had no lube and was dry as concrete. I'm sure they would have sold me a fingernail amount of lube for 100 baht though. In Globe soft drinks would be free as well as the short time rooms, plus there would be in-house food and girls would have their own lube. So all in all a Nana Plaza go-go is now at Globe level in terms of cost.Prices have become obscene. And for your 4500 plus, for the most part you're getting a rush job where the gal can't wait to get back to the bar for another go. I can think of a lot better ways to spend 150 USD. Still think much over 50 USD is a lot for a st lay. For a porn star stunner that does everything, spends a full two hours with you, and tries to get you to pop as many times as she can, is seductive and skilled, 150 usd would be acceptable.
Fewer and fewer western dudes in the bars. That trend will continue.
At Twister's (Nana Plaza, upper floor) I took a girl for 1000 barfine + 3000 for the girl + drinks + a tip the mamasan kept (stole) from me of her own accord. This is over 4000 without short time room. Short time room was 350, + 50 for a bicycle tyre condom (my bad not bringing my condom). The girl had no lube and was dry as concrete. I'm sure they would have sold me a fingernail amount of lube for 100 baht though. In Globe soft drinks would be free as well as the short time rooms, plus there would be in-house food and girls would have their own lube. So all in all a Nana Plaza go-go is now at Globe level in terms of cost.I think some of these problems are avoidable, if you are not too drunk. Not sure how mamasan stole a tip. 1000 is a round number (no change). You should not be paying the girl's 3 k in advance. Best to pay BF separately to the drinks. I usually hand the BF direct to the girl and she can go seek a mamasan. I don't like mamasans being present when trying to make a deal with a girl (however I speak Thai so communication is not a problem). If mamasans are hanging around me I can wait till they go away.
Last time a mamasan was hanging around while I was trying to make a deal with a girl, it ended up badly, at RB4. Mamasan tried to make me pay in advance. No go. Later turned out the girl refuses to take her pants off and fuck due to her period. Was clear she was trying to get to my cock first maybe so she could attempt a BJ and demand payment. I also refused to take my pants off given she would not. Later I saw her black stained pad in panties.
You can get lube at the 7 Eleven store or pharmacy window opposite Nana Plaza (if it is still there. Perhaps not). I usually carry my lube (from another country), however will buy when needed. Absolutely essential (even if BBFS). ST Hotels will have very small packs of lube. Worst case you should buy 2 of those. You can also but better condoms at the 7 Eleven. Okamoto 003, or larger size Durex Comfort for example.
Twisters is an Iffy bar. I have had on very good girl from there and also a dud. See how lovey dovey and keen she is during the drinks. If at all stand-offish or in a hurry, forget it. If she is not willing to leave the confines of Nana Plaza, that is an automatic fail, unless she has a very valid reason like not being a Thai citizen. I do know a waitress who works in Twisters (she is fat but no matter), so if I was there would seek my waitress's advice about which girls can be fun. She would know a lot. She gets tips / drinks from me, for being very helpful. She can so easily help me rule out "bad" girls.
If you are well prepared with the essentials, you might have a good time just possibly and the high cost will hurt less. If its a dud girl as well, the a lot of money wasted. I mainly do repeat girls to cut down my failures to a minimum.
Don't recall now if I fucked any Nana Plaza girls this year. There was the RB4 non fuck. Maybe one or two others, likely duds if I can't remember them now. In Cowboy maybe 4 girls done, with 1 being a regular.
And with drinks, BF, ST hotel, and what the gal wants, your very close to 5 k.His session in Switzerland is probably 30 minutes. So in Thailand one ought to be getting a lot of extra time (over 30 minutes unless duped). If he took just one fuck, his session price would have ridden.
Despite all this it is comparable with a bargirl ST. A bargirl needs to provide something special to be worth it. Escorts start to look an attractive option if only we could be sure they are as attractive as advertised (which is unlikely).
I prefer to use ST Hotels only on quite days so as to get more than 1 hour in the room, still my ST Hotel use has largely dried up due to not living in Bangkok any more, and only passing through from time to time. If one does not need a pornstar, some of the Soi 4 girls become a good option. Starts to become like I now go to a bar to drink alcohol, talk (if possible), maybe eat (in the pub) and maybe watch some entertainment, but not so much looking for a fuck now.
These days the need to see naked girls finally declines a bit. I can watch pretty Webcam girls gyrate and masturbate for free if don't mind 2 dimensional. No clue why others pay money. I don't need to control what the girl does. I am sure this is another factor adding to decline of business in the gogos. Being in a room full of naked girls in Germany or Switzerland still has its appeal (once in a while), although only a small percentage are really pretty. Have goto regulars there too, to avoid getting duds.
I like watching naked girls a lot if they have a good body and a good face as well, preferably all natural. With an ordinary face, or weak body, I lose interest quite fast, so lose interest in Crazy House quite fast these days.
BestTimeEver
11-21-19, 06:58
I don't like mamasans being present when trying to make a deal with a girl (however I speak Thai so communication is not a problem). If mamasans are hanging around me I can wait till they go away.
I do know a waitress who works in Twisters (she is fat but no matter), so if I was there would seek my waitress's advice about which girls can be fun. She would know a lot. She gets tips / drinks from me, for being very helpful. She can so easily help me rule out "bad" girls.Hanging around is not exactly the same as giving advice, but I guess the same mamasan services are intended by someone in both these cases. So I guess you would promote (demote?) a waitress to mamasan? With the difference being that you know the waitress and that you approach her for asking advice (instead of her approaching you)?
I totally get it and I would do the same. I don't like mamasans in general, because I don't like to be pushed into anything. But mamasan services are worth gold in my opinion. If one has developed a relationship with the mamasan and some kind of mutual trust, an understanding that you will treat each other with fairness. Of course, it is also necessary to have good girls around, otherwise the mamasan services are not helpful. But with a large number of good girls, mamasans are technically able to make every session a top experience.
The 1500 price is for the street girls (that looks as good as girls in go gos). Then he moved on to talk about go gos but did not mention price before making the price comparisonYou are right. After I submitted my response, I realized that the 1500 price was for street girls and not for the better looking GoGo girls. I tried to delete my post afterwards but could not figure out how.
With respect to other comments, indeed the session at Globe is for 1/2 hour only. That's fine with me as I have no desire to stick around and chat with the girl. When I monger in Colombia, I typically rent an apartment and as a result I spend more time with the girls. I provide food and booze, and my Spanish is pretty decent. Even then I get bored pretty quickly because these girls are relatively young (early to mid 20's) and I am not close to their age. I find it difficult to keep them entertained.
In my comparison I forgot to mention that 30 minutes or 60 minutes makes no difference to me in terms of ST. And I can and will only pop once, so a 2 or 3-hour ST would be no use to me either. Ten minutes into the session I know if the session will be a success or a failure, and if successful it will usually be over by the 30 minutes mark, though I don't mind doing small talk or taking a few pictures as extra time.
If your goal is to "squeeze" 2 or 3 pops into a ST, Thailand wins hands down of course, in spite of the grievously inflated prices. But what can be the fun of exerting oneself to come twice within such a short time, even if you can? Maybe on stims + sildenafil, but that's a hobby that goes dangerously beyond getting laid.
You are right. After I submitted my response, I realized that the 1500 price was for street girls and not for the better looking GoGo girls. I tried to delete my post afterwards but could not figure out how.
With respect to other comments, indeed the session at Globe is for 1/2 hour only. That's fine with me as I have no desire to stick around and chat with the girl. If 30 minutes is all you need, it is hardly worthwhile coming to Thailand. Its too far. In the old days Thailand was suited to getting a girl for the whole night for a very good price, or even to hire her for multiple days on a holiday tour.
I still get a price benefit in Thailand over Germany, due to needing more time. 60 minutes is my minimum (in Germany too) and sometimes runs to 90 minutes or whatever extra time is available.
We mourn the days of 1991 where a gogo girl wanted as little 500 Baht from you to stay the night, and next day you had to pay her to signal she should leave. I think Soapy girls cost a bit more. Some would hang around as long as possible. Ten years earlier it might have been 200 Baht or so for a girl to stay the night, in some areas. To get extremely cheap girls now, Cambodia is better I think. In 1991 it was almost crazy to consider sleeping alone, unless one really needed a lot of catch up sleep. Far better to have a naked girl in the bed, even if she could not speak English at all, in those days. Now I often sleep alone.
There was no ISG, and no internet back then. I got my info from a buddy who had been to Thailand before. Can't remember what other methods. In 1991 we had no clue that Nana Plaza may have already existed. Cowboy and Pat Pong were the main monger areas, although Thermae and Grace coffee shops were known, Thermae Soapy, and a few other Soapies like Darling were known due to having massive high rise signage. Plenty of suspect Oily MPs of course. Sometimes you found Mongering locations just by walking around and seeing them. There were always touts on the streets ready to shown you glossy brochures, sometime of a particular Soapy MP, then they would take you to an actually different Soapy from the one in the Brochure. Ha ha.
As I recall, he described that Thermae girl as a "stunner". I would say the chances of a better looking than most Thermae girl actually quoting 2,000 baht as an opening number in a negotiation these days is very low, perhaps only if it is her very first day in Bangkok from an outlying province and her first hour in Thermae.
3,000 baht as the opening quote for all but the older, chubbier or more plain looking girls in the place is far more likely and it's been that way for at least a year or two. Yes, many will quickly drop to 2,500 baht if the customer does nothing more than hesitate a nanosecond to accept the quote or appears to be taking a step away from the girl and the negotiation. And I believe negotiating to 2,000 baht is still possible with some of the better looking girls in Thermae if some conditions are right for it; the time of night, day of the month, customer competition, your level of game, presentability, etc.
So, as far as the "going rate" is concerned, I might not be so quick to say 3,000 baht is the new going rate in Thermae. But it is certainly a common starting point for the better looking girls there, imo and in my experience.Thermae girl Monday night for me was 2000 and she fit my criteria as being slim, firm and cute.
Her services were just fine for me. I am always conscious of the fact that I am in terme once or twice a week, and it is the main source for me of a quickie when I need one. Therefore, I always treat the girls nicely and with respect, never cheap Charlie then, because I know they all talk. That's one of the problems and benefits of being here long-term, the problem is you have to be a gentleman, on the other hand, when you are, they all will know about it and your sleeve will get tugged as you walk past. There will always be some girls at the termae who say they won't go with white guys, I know that problem is solvable with cash I'm just not in the mood.
I would assume that a lot of the girls there feels safer with xpat falangs.
Francesco24
11-21-19, 17:26
After arriving in BKK, I first wanted to try out Line and ThaiFriendly. A bit disappointed in Line so far, but have to be fair also, it is still early.
After installing Line with my brand new Thai phone number, I set up a new account. After that I have only been looking for the 'People Nearby' function, which I could not find. It is supposed to be there, but my Line app looks different from any screenshot online. Where some Line apps have a menu option 'More' at the bottom of the screen (behind which the Nearby function should be located), this Line app has the option 'Wallet' which is something different entirely. And yes, I have updated the pp to the most recent version. Any ideas?
For ThaiFriendly, I did the same. With my Thai phone number I created an account, uploaded a picture and liked some ladies. A bunch are ugly and not many seem to be into p4 p (stating this explicitly in their profile). But interesting contacts start to come in now, so will probably give it a shot sometime soon.Line never had a Nearby function. Maybe you talking about WeChat (which is very bad in my experience).
Banana Boi
11-21-19, 20:00
WTF. Am I overpaying at Thermae paying 2500 baht for who I consider to be the top girls? Maybe cause I am a known face in Thermae the girls are all whispering here's a 2500 baht sucker before I even get to them.
BestTimeEver
11-21-19, 20:34
Patpong has not been on my to do list since 13 years and even then I only attended once with a semi-girlfriend, for dinner only. So I thought let's experience this. I'm not so experienced with gogo bars, so it was an evening to learn something new. I did not get laid nor did I want to, but at least three people were going to be very happy tonight: the feet, the fatty and the freshman. More on that later.
I went there by BTS and looked for the Patpong side streets. First I made a round to see what's what, but then got into King's Castle I. An ok sized gogo bar, with quite some talent (best I've seen tonight, though that is not saying everything). Watched a few rotations drinking a beer and then went on for King's Castle (no number I think).
Ok size bar as well, with a few hotties dancing in front. They were clearly there as eyecandy and did not do any effort to get called over to sit with customers. Only interested in a few high rollers. I was willing to buy, but they did not even look my way. Okay, if it is like that than suit yourself. Their loss, for me there are more fish in the pond and as stated I was not really into taking a girl out this evening.
I walked to Black Pagoda, upstairs at the third floor with the glass bridge across the street. Veni, vidi, bye bye! I went in but turned around straight away because of the lack of talent. A little further on the road there was Badabing, but I only saw a series of men sitting at benches with no girls. And I did not see any girls dancing. Perhaps I should have peeked in, but I did not bother at that time.
Next was King's Castle II, next to number I. Same same, nothing new. Some girls okay, but no real stunners. After this, I went to Triple XXX Lounge, with an ok number of girls dancing. Watched a few rotations and saw that one shift did not wear any panties, just a tiny see-through dress that did not cover everything. Nice, but it would have been better for me if there was full nudity or even showing titties. I had it after this bar, so went back to the hotel.
Summarizing: there were a few good looking girls, but they knew it and they were not interested in entertaining me. The other girls were always missing points on some front: no titties at all, too big ass / legs, face not pretty enough. They tried to make up for it in enthusiasm, but no thank you. OK, the bodies were mostly not fat, that much can be said. At every bar the first beer was 170 baht.
Will I return? Probably yes, because I did have a good time and did not get bored once (I'm not about getting laid all the time, but about collecting experiences). So this works for me, though I guess Nana can do the same.
A couple of things I can't believe though. Why would a guy pay a lot of money for a girl to sit next to him, but don't talk to her and don't touch her at all? I've witnessed this quite often tonight, especially with Korean and Japanese customers. Why? And how come some customers take out girls for ST when the girls are totally drunk? Also this I witnessed a few times, feeling sorry for the girl. The customer has the bad session coming, I don't pitty him. If a girl can not walk, she will not do anything to create a good session. Perhaps besides just laying on the bed, but for me that is definitely not a good session.
Now who got lucky tonight? At least the following three people:
1. The feet: at King's Castle I there was a guy next to me, with two girls. He was kissing the toes of the girls, peeping into the panties and licking lemon from their feet (from their shots). Having a blast! One girl was going crazy, shouting out of pleasure (so it seemed). The other girl (next to me); was looking around whether there was someone who could save her. I asked her in Thai if the guy was crazy and she said yes, definitely. She told me she was very shy and did not partake too much in the party. I did not wait around to see what happened, but I guess the guy took out the crazy girl and had a good party time with her. Well, he got what he was looking for, good for him!
2. The fatty: a guy and a fat woman (I think his wife) were both being serviced by two ladies at King's Castle (no number). The woman's boobs got a good workout and her own hands were all over the working girl. Suddenly they got up and disappeared. I don't think they took out any girl, but my guess was that the wife was so hot by then that she dragged the guy to their hotel. She must have given it well to the poor guy, while he was only thinking about the hottie back in the bar LOL.
3. The freshman: I saw a farang couple browsing the Patpong night market. Very young, blond, handsome guy and a really very pretty girl in all aspects. He was interested in the gogo bars, and peeped inside a few when walking by. But she took him along, not getting angry at him but instead trying to win him over to her side. I think if he yielded to his girlfriend in time, then he will have the time of his life tonight. She will show him why he is with her and how she is better than any of the gogo girls. Lucky guy LOL.
WTF. Am I overpaying at Thermae paying 2500 baht for who I consider to be the top girls? Maybe cause I am a known face in Thermae the girls are all whispering here's a 2500 baht sucker before I even get to them.Ummm I think 2500 is the going rate for ST there. So I assume you're not over paying. If it is then I'm a sucker too.
Ummm I think 2500 is the going rate for ST there. So I assume you're not over paying. If it is then I'm a sucker too.The going rate for me is usually 2000. But usually, I mean that there are times that I really don't feel like negotiating or playing the game for more than 62 seconds, so if she asked me for 25 I say okay, let's go.
On the other hand, I can pull a 1500 here and there. It really matters not. It's only money.
Ummm I think 2500 is the going rate for ST there. So I assume you're not over paying. If it is then I'm a sucker too.I have a regular go-to gal, 34, natural body with no discernible baby damage, excellent massage skills and an amazing fuck. I give her 3 k whether it's for a two hour session on the table or an overnight in a hotel.
So no, 2500 isn't bad if you're getting out of it what you like.
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A couple of things I can't believe though. Why would a guy pay a lot of money for a girl to sit next to him, but don't talk to her and don't touch her at all? I've witnessed this quite often tonight, especially with Korean and Japanese customers. Why? And how come some customers take out girls for ST when the girls are totally drunk? Also this I witnessed a few times, feeling sorry for the girl. The customer has the bad session coming, I don't pitty him. If a girl can not walk, she will not do anything to create a good session. Perhaps besides just laying on the bed, but for me that is definitely not a good session.
...By "a lot of money", do you mean buying the girl 1-2 Ladydrinks? Or do you mean spending hours with her just sitting next to him, buying her and her friends/cousins/sisters many Ladydrinks the whole time but never taking her out?
If it is the former, I can only say sometimes you come to a conclusion about whether or not the girl is worth barfining the instant she sits next to you. Yes, in some cases chemistry or a reasonable prediction for how things might turn out can be determined just about that fast. Especially if the girl was all over you before you finally agreed to buy her a LD but turns into a statue the instant she sits next to you and orders her drink. And it can go the other way too, of course. Could be the guy is just waiting to see which way it will go with a particular girl.
On the limp doll drunk girl issue, I agree with you that I am not into taking girls who are (or are pretending to be) that drunk. Or very drunk at all. But several guys have told me they buy many Ladydrinks for the girls and try to get them super drunk because it is easier to fuck them bareback without a hassle back in the room that way. That isn't my style. But that's what some guys who buy LD after LD after LD for a girl have told me. These are also the same guys who are very concerned about making sure the LD they buy the girl is definitely alcohol and not just soda.
KilledSoul
11-22-19, 04:13
There was no ISG, and no internet back then. I got my info from a buddy who had been to Thailand before. Can't remember what other methods. In 1991 we had no clue that Nana Plaza may have already existed. Cowboy and Pat Pong were the main monger areas, although Thermae and Grace coffee shops were known, Thermae Soapy, and a few other Soapies like Darling were known due to having massive high rise signage. Plenty of suspect Oily MPs of course. Sometimes you found Mongering locations just by walking around and seeing them. There were always touts on the streets ready to shown you glossy brochures, sometime of a particular Soapy MP, then they would take you to an actually different Soapy from the one in the Brochure. Ha ha.I wonder what is today's BKK. Is it Cambodia or Santa Fe in Bogota or will it be Caracas once Venezuela becomes stable?
If 30 minutes is all you need, it is hardly worthwhile coming to Thailand. Its too far. In the old days Thailand was suited to getting a girl for the whole night for a very good price, or even to hire her for multiple days on a holiday tour...Just some clarification, I don't mind spending more time with a working girl. I did quite a few overnights in many parts of the world. But the setup at Globe and the German FKKs, is such that the girl is eager to leave and look for new business after the session. The time to chat with her is before going into the room, while deciding whether you want this girl or not. Once I decide to take a chick to the room, 30 min is enough for me.
In Thailand, at the gogo bars, the norm for me is to spend a couple of hours enjoying the scene, before selecting a girl to take with me. That's an enjoyable activity, which cost me generally a bundle in drinks but I am ok with that. I am on vacation after all.
BestTimeEver
11-22-19, 05:06
By "a lot of money", do you mean buying the girl 1-2 Ladydrinks? Or do you mean spending hours with her just sitting next to him, buying her and her friends/cousins/sisters many Ladydrinks the whole time but never taking her out?
If it is the former, I can only say sometimes you come to a conclusion about whether or not the girl is worth barfining the instant she sits next to you. Yes, in some cases chemistry or a reasonable prediction for how things might turn out can be determined just about that fast. Especially if the girl was all over you before you finally agreed to buy her a LD but turns into a statue the instant she sits next to you and orders her drink. And it can go the other way too, of course. Could be the guy is just waiting to see which way it will go with a particular girl.I indeed meant the former. The latter, buying many lady drinks and not taking out, can still very well mean that the guy has a good time. This for me is not determined solely by the taking out part.
Of course all you describe can well happen. I just saw a bit too often that neither guy nor girl were making any initiative to start anything, let alone small talk. Both have a bit of a moral obligation to make contact at the least. After that it is the job of the girl to make him happy, but with dud guys she can not work any more than we like to handle a dud girl. And he is throwing away money and not in the good way (1 or 2 LD's is not that much, on a second thought, but still wasted money in this situation IMHO).
Ideally the guy can indicate what he wants and the girl obliges (within acceptable limits), surprises him with extras on top of that and pushes his excitement. But also fair enough to say that this game may not be easy for guys who are newbies, being overwhelmed by the place, not knowing where to look and nervous about everything. Once I was like that and my game was not great at all.
Member #4698
11-22-19, 05:06
On the limp doll drunk girl issue, I agree with you that I am not into taking girls who are <snip>that drunk. Or very drunk at all. Yeah I agree totally, but there are rare occasions when I have slipped up and took a girl who was wasted either due to the fact that I was drinking a lot with her and misjudged her level of intoxication based on my own level which was beneath hers or I came along after the girl had already had a few and I bought her a couple more not realizing that my drinks would be too many for her and yet somehow not noticing their effect until it was too late, as in after we had left the bar.
In any case, all is not lost. I am always a gentleman. HA HA. I make sure we get to my hotel and to bed safe and sound, which sometimes is not easy. 555. Then I help them take off their clothes and let them sleep it off. The reward for my kindness and gallantry is always passionate. no holds barred. early morning sex and then later around noon a 2nd wake up round before they leave. And yes, it is always bareback, but that is not my goal or my intention. I don't want a wasted girl! I like them lively & uninhibited, not falling down drunk.
BlueBudgie
11-22-19, 05:07
I am staying in the Silom Road / Surawong area, close to Patpong. Interested specifically in a blowjob bar, no experience in BKK. Anyone have a thought?
KilledSoul
11-22-19, 05:11
My 2 day layover in Tokyo is going to cost $5 K USD for the escort + $ 2 K for lodging + food, so I'd love it if my only outlay was just lodging+food / drinks / activities.
I'm recently divorced, have more money than time since I have a good job but only 4 weeks of vacation a year, so I need to make it count. I was originally going to try to find a "GF" to bring back to the US for like 6 months (I'm not really in the right mental state to "date"/ get re-married right now), but reading a lot of different sources it seems it'd be almost impossible for a bar girl to get a USA Tourist visa.
Thanks for all the great advice.As BQ already pointed out, with that kind of budget you should try Seeking Arrangement. Depending on COL of your city, you could get a "GF" 2 days a week for 2-4 k USD a month.
I'm recently divorced, have more money than time since I have a good job but only 4 weeks of vacation a year, so I need to make it count. I was originally going to try to find a "GF" to bring back to the US for like 6 months (I'm not really in the right mental state to "date"/ get re-married right now), but reading a lot of different sources it seems it'd be almost impossible for a bar girl to get a USA Tourist visa.
Thanks for all the great advice.There will be Thai girls in your home country, that need to make a bit of extra pocket money, and maybe desiring some sex as well. Some girls work in Thai restaurants for very low money.
I used to visit a Thai girl once per week in home country for quite a long time. You could do more, depends what you need. She officially had a BF already, so I had to visit at right times, and sneak in and out without drawing attention of neighbours (in apartment block), and this arrangement worked very well for the time she did not live with her BF. Her BF did not provide her with pocket money, and she worked part time in restaurant and office cleaning. I believe she must have been a hooker at some previously. I had actually taken her out to dinner a few times, a few years before she got the BF. However she seemed very cool, and the relationship did not flourish originally. She wasn't a horny type at the time. Years later we met up again, and mutual needs were realised. Turned out she liked a DATY very much and complained her BF lazy usually only giving her the odd quickie. She liked me to take her out to dinner to eat expensive seafood too. The BF was not into seafood at all. Ha ha. Oysters, Crab etc. Motivated her.
Might need to meet suitable girls through some contact App, but can be very clear that arrangement is totally casual for sex, not a full time GF or fiancé. So must be plenty of available fuck buddies in your home country, when you don't want a GF or wife, especially Asian ones.
On the limp doll drunk girl issue, I agree with you that I am not into taking girls who are (or are pretending to be) that drunk. Or very drunk at all. But several guys have told me they buy many Ladydrinks for the girls and try to get them super drunk because it is easier to fuck them bareback without a hassle back in the room that way. That isn't my style. I have not been a guy trying to get BB by the girl being drunk (at least not consciously ha ha). We do talk about a small number of drinks as being leg openers. Some girls are rather dull unenthusiastic fucks when sober, but start to lose control and go wild and horny after a few drinks. I certainly notice my Mrs. Is much more horny after some alcohol as well (good weed even better).
However there are girls that don't need leg openers that are fairly enthusiastic stone cold sober. These girls tend to deteriorate with alcohol consumed and become useless when a bit drunk. Some Thai girls can turn into voracious animals, when drunk. Once they get too aggressive, that is a turn off for me.
So I think we have to know the girl and how shy she is, and what is a suitable number of drinks for that particular girl. Many Asians are supposedly allergic to alcohol and may not handle even a couple of drinks really well. I never BF very drunk girls (have learned from the bad experiences). Just don't need that hassle. Recall one very drunk girl, just split from a BF who went far too wild, starting crapping on about wanting to make my baby, etc. So no way was I going to risk a CIP. Vasectomy now a high priority! Ha ha.
The time to chat with her is before going into the room, while deciding whether you want this girl or not. Once I decide to take a chick to the room, 30 min is enough for me.
Some guys are trying to get a lot of free chat time with the girl. That is not me. I am there for sex not for some girl to listen to my verbal rubbish, or for me to listen to her verbal stuff. Okay Some girls do have some interesting funny gossip. I do chat a bit to any girls that I know well that I could call a buddy (one girl from Puerto Rico was into chatting a bit and she was a forum reader too).
I know girls that I can use for conversation (sex not involved). That my only cost me buying her a drink or too. So I largely separate requirements for social and for sex, if paying a hooker.
If I pay for 60 minutes and fucking is all done at 50 minutes, then sure can chat for the last few minutes remaining if there is anything to chat about. It must many years since I completed a sex encounter in 30 minutes. Sometimes 60 minutes was not enough, even when not taking a massage at an MP. If I get a ST room for 60 minutes only, we use the whole 60 minutes, including showering and brush the teeth. DATY is probably usually between 5 and 20 minutes (for really slow girls). Have had girls needing 25 minutes of DATY to cum on a rare occasion. Most guys don't have the patience. One hooker (latin) told me I was first customer to ever make her cum (from DATY) as no one else went long enough (with the skills). Can't be sure she was not telling porkies, but it is not a common story to hear.
It is a danger to spend a lot of time on DATY, only to later find the girl is dick scared with stiff legs making it a lousy fuck. Ha ha.
I still think Thailand is not best value to take a girl for 30 minutes. If doing that, then I think a BJ shop is best, and can pay a bonus to naked and include a fuck. I used to use this approach when time available was very short. Girls on Soi 4 are another good option for a more cost effective 30 minute fuck, however I take them for longer than 30 minutes every time. I am prepared to pay a bonus if the girl deserves it.
I find the modern webcams to be funny in a way, with names like "Chaturbate" and "Stripchat", as though the chatting part was really important. Yeh some guys have a desire to pay money to make their smart ass comments. Ha ha. On here we can make smart ass comments for free. Free webcams to me are just another alternative to watching free porn, preferring very pretty girls with stunning bodies of course. Don't need any guys. Ha ha. In Thailand we can just go get some real girls we can touch, which is better.
................I find the modern webcams to be funny in a way, with names like "Chaturbate" and "Stripchat", as though the chatting part was really important. Yeh some guys have a desire to pay money to make their smart ass comments. Ha ha............Reminds me of the sex shops on 42nd Street, NYC, in the 70's and 80's. You enter the booth, put in a token, the curtain went up revealing a live naked girl behind a glass. There was a receiver to chat with the girl. You can ask her to do what you want. Guys would jerk off to her doing the same. I used to ask them to meet me after work, for a fee of course.
BestTimeEver
11-22-19, 18:39
This afternoon something else to do, so only hobby time for the evening. Went to Nana at about 9:30. Soi 4 was showing better talent than earlier this week, was tempted but wanted to see Nana again after having had a good night yesterday at Patpong.
Made a round along all floors to see where to enter first. Billboard it was, mostly because of the reviews here on ISG. There were some nice girls indeed, on one stage nude titties and on the other stage normal bikinis. The group with bikinis were most attractive for me. On I went to Rainbow 4, again because of the reputation. Was disappointed, face and titties not attractive. Billboard was doing better at that. Even left my beer half full, and went on to Spankys. Sitting for a few minutes with nothing going on (they just cleaned up after a wax candle show) and with no mamasan asking me to drink something. Did not see any talent so I got up and left (probably should have left directly after coming in). Oh well, not too much into this game anyway.
Last bar was Twisters downstairs, with again part nude titties and part bikinis. I think I also saw fully nude in the distance, but not sure (it's a big bar). I was seated with the bikinis and had a good view. Best girls of this evening so far! Few ladydrinks for my favorite, for which she showed her appreciation by enough grinding and playing around. Touching was totally OK, together we just made it all light and fun with kidding. Very very nice ass, good natural boobs but also braces. That's not really my thing, so no ST action with her. Otherwise the signs were very good for a nice performance. Last memorable note: the fatty and her husband (from my previous post on Patpong) were here as well. She was having a great time again with two girls, full-on party mode. Good for her!
I left Nana and walked over to Thermae. Made the round, but not succesful. There were certainly some good looking girls (better than at Nana and soi 4), but none below 50 yo were interested in me. LOL Smiling back was reserved for Asian guys. Did not want to invest a lot of time or put in too much effort in unwilling girls, but preferred sleep over a potentially bad session. Perhaps I have given up too easily, you think? Well, anyway, I have had my good time at Nana, even if I did not get laid. Two experiences richer!
I have not been a guy trying to get BB by the girl being drunk (at least not consciously ha ha). We do talk about a small number of drinks as being leg openers. Some girls are rather dull unenthusiastic fucks when sober, but start to lose control and go wild and horny after a few drinks. I certainly notice my Mrs. Is much more horny after some alcohol as well (good weed even better).
However there are girls that don't need leg openers that are fairly enthusiastic stone cold sober. These girls tend to deteriorate with alcohol consumed and become useless when a bit drunk. Some Thai girls can turn into voracious animals, when drunk. Once they get too aggressive, that is a turn off for me.
So I think we have to know the girl and how shy she is, and what is a suitable number of drinks for that particular girl. Many Asians are supposedly allergic to alcohol and may not handle even a couple of drinks really well. I never BF very drunk girls (have learned from the bad experiences). Just don't need that hassle. Recall one very drunk girl, just split from a BF who went far too wild, starting crapping on about wanting to make my baby, etc. So no way was I going to risk a CIP. Vasectomy now a high priority! Ha ha.Yes, and I have met several girls on the dating sites who ask if I have beer in my room and do I mind if they have a couple of beers when they come over, before we have sex, to help them relax and become less shy. This is in the case where it is well understood our first meeting at my apartment is all about us having sex and not about just saying Hello, or hanging out together for the day or evening. Of course, I generally say no problem without hesitation in that case. I keep beer in my fridge for that and other reasons. However, there have been a couple of times where I have called off our first "date" because the girl's interest in alcohol is so keen, overriding and repeated in our Line chat or whatever that I see warning flags ahead.
I understand they might not be warning flags for guys who themselves are really into drinking as much as possible in their free time. To each their own. But since I am not really into it, I have already had my fill of boring nights sitting with girls who pound down one after another all evening with very little if any "upside" in it for me, sexual or otherwise, and I am happy to take a pass on such a girl these days.
Hey,
Newbie question here.
Why are the Arab clubs in BKK frowned upon?
Is it there location?
The girls?
The clientele?
Or all of the above?
Cheers.
Are.
Hey,
Newbie question here. Why are the Arab clubs in BKK frowned upon? Is it there location? The girls?
The clientele? Or all of the above?
Cheers.
A "No" to all questions I think.
The "Arab's" bars actually belong to an Iranian. There are rumours that the bars cannot possibly make any money and are for money laundering purposes only. This from persons who have been working in the Soi for years and hear all the gossip and inside info. Otherwise they would have all closed down.
Bars in Soi Cowboy (not a location problem): Kiss, Sahara, Rio, Deja Vu, Midnight, Spice Girls, and I probably / maybe forgot one.
Supposedly the girls that work there are not available for sex (officially), so even if you barfined them, does not mean you would get a fuck. They have Coyotes and maybe Gogo girls. You can entertain girls and buy drinks for them. Will work out expensive with almost zero benefits other than a fun time for guys with plenty of money.
There was the odd rumour of customers being fleeced for many things they did not order, and being threatened. I did not experience that myself. So I can't be sure it is true or a big misunderstanding when customers agree to something without knowing they agreed to it. Ha ha. One guy wrote online that he was grossly over charged two times, and he would never return to one of those bars. I smell a rat. Why did he go the 2nd time?
These bars are a waste of time for me if I cannot possibly fuck a girl that appeals to me. Would I go there for top conversation with sexy girls? No, I can think of other options. Girls are not nude of course.
Cowboy 2 is a similar type bar but not one of the "Arab's". There thee barfines are possibly lower, and girls might be hookers. So I suggest try that one.
These days, so many bars are full of a combination of Coyotes and Go-go girls. Some of the Coyotes may be "good girls" and not available for sex. Coyotes have a steeper barfine. Coyotes may not know how to dance Coyote style, often are wearing tights (not always), usually have double layer bras so one has no clue if they have any tits or not. Officially Coyotes should be wearing very short cut off shorts (but not always). Coyotes will not be nude, nor see through bras, nor knickerless, as far as I know. Coyotes are usually hired by an agency and supplied to various bars. This causes them to be more expensive to BF. Shark was one of my regular bars with gogo girls and with Coyotes. I never took a Coyote there but others do.
Billboard in Nana is considered a superior bar, and has a lot of reasonable prices Coyotes, and also some topless non-Coyotes.
Is there really any reason to go to The Arab's bars? I don't think so. I would prefer to see them close providing not replaced by Ladyboy bars.
Made a round along all floors to see where to enter first. Billboard it was, mostly because of the reviews here on ISG. There were some nice girls indeed, on one stage nude titties and on the other stage normal bikinis. The group with bikinis were most attractive for me. On I went to Rainbow 4, again because of the reputation. Was disappointed, face and titties not attractive. Billboard was doing better at that. Even left my beer half full, and went on to Spankys. Sitting for a few minutes with nothing going on (they just cleaned up after a wax candle show) and with no mamasan asking me to drink something. Did not see any talent so I got up and left (probably should have left directly after coming in). Oh well, not too much into this game anyway.
Last bar was Twisters downstairs, with again part nude titties and part bikinis. I think I also saw fully nude in the distance, but not sure (it's a big bar). I was seated with the bikinis and had a good view. Best girls of this evening so far! Largely I agree.
We get a lot of vastly different opinions on this topic. Some guys say the topless girls at Billboard in the bath are better looking. Blinded by the tits, perhaps? Well at last we can see how good the tits are. Even I appreciate girls more once their top comes off, if they have really nice tits to show off. The less they wear, the better for me.
Some guys are very impressed by all the surgeries girls at RB4, but that is not me. A small number of them may be naturally good looking.
Many guys will find girls to be gorgeous, merely because they have a great body, and look very young. The face does not seem to count a lot and Billboard stage is quite darkly lit for a reason. Many faces there are a bit ordinary (not all). I am possibly really warped. If a girl has a stunning face, and a reasonably good body, I really go for that, and can even forgive exaggerated sillies, if the rest is really stunning. Otherwise the sillies won't impress me, and I will pass. Face surgeries have to be very subtle to pass for me. Some guys like very white girls. In Billboard its hard to tell due to weak lighting.
I think we each have our own special spec, and for me that is slim but curves, and small face sometimes described as an inverted triangle shaped face, and as natural looking as possible. I have a buddy who always describes my girls as "a bag of bones" and obviously he liked far more voluptuous types. I described his girls as fat and plain. Another guy even joked that my buddy would pick the ugliest girl in the room (to our taste). We would never fight over the same girl. Ha ha.
Bars in Soi Cowboy (not a location problem): Kiss, Sahara, Rio, Deja Vu, Midnight, Spice Girls, and I probably / maybe forgot one.
It seems that Rawhide has been bought by the Arab too, or lease taken over. Why would he need more? Existing bars have lots of girls but few customers. Makes little sense, unless trying to eventually eliminate hookers from the Cowboy.
Meanwhile overall Cowboy customers probably keep declining despite diversification to Ladyboys and non-hooker bars. Customers diversified as well finding other ways to find girls for sex, drinking or whatever.
AmericanThief
11-23-19, 14:01
Just Monika.
3 pm Saturday.
The fucking heartbeat is dead. Middle aged mothers with 60 kilos of bodyweight and dark rough skin to boot offered there. I saw 7 girls and walled straight out. I don't care if they use Nuru gel, an old overweight hag doesn't rock my world.
Walked on down to soi 24 to all the little shops and the girls were all sitting outside in plain view, not like Doki where it was all a big scam with girls behind a curtain and you have to pay before even seeing the girl live.
Many decent girls, white skin, young, smiling, pigtails, braids, cute, sexy, cosplay etc. Calling for my money love.
Found a small young 22 year old spinner with a face and body like Lisa. GFE with DFK and all the normal positions a newbie girl does and hit me with that DDu-Du-DDu-Du, 90 min jacuzzi room for 3,000 baht too you jive turkeys.
Steve 9696
11-23-19, 14:20
Hey,
Newbie question here.
Why are the Arab clubs in BKK frowned upon?
Is it there location?
The girls?
The clientele?
Or all of the above?
Cheers.
Are.My experience is three years back by I distinctly remember feeling the sleazy rip off vibe in Deja Vue. I poked my head in and it was pretty dead but a cute and bubbly girl dragged me in. Before I knew it there were two girls with me and both ordering drinks. They were sorta fun so I didn't protest too loudly. Then they started to order round two and as I recall they had not put the bill in the cup like they did other places. Fortunately I still had a little scam radar up and said I wanted to see the bill before ordering anything more. And it was a lot higher than I expected — a lot more than other places. So I paid and high tailed it.
I think I wrote about it at the time and warned others off and someone said it was part of the Arab chain.
Doki Dokihttp://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!
Its been a year or 2 since my last visit to BKK and I've read the forums. Last time I was there Thermae was still ok for white guys. Seems like some recent post make it seem as no longer. I heard there was another freelancer bar at the Hyatt hotel or something like that.
I'm not much on paying go gos ridiculous bar fines, so I only go there for the show and then go find a girl. Massage shops are ok, but I like bringing a girl back. I'm staying on soi 11, so I'll be in the thick of things.
I guess I took a long way to answer a short question. Where are the best bang for your buck freelancers? Soi 4 still? Soi 11 hopefully? And honestly from someone who just got one in the last couple weeks, what's the LT fee average? This forum is cluttered with a wide margin, so just hoping a person who just LT a girl could tell me what price they paid.
As always thanks and I'll post any updates when I get there.
3 pm Saturday.
The fucking heartbeat is dead. Middle aged mothers with 60 kilos of bodyweight and dark rough skin to boot offered there. I saw 7 girls and walled straight out. I don't care if they use Nuru gel, an old overweight hag doesn't rock my world.
Walked on down to soi 24 to all the little shops and the girls were all sitting outside in plain view, not like Doki where it was all a big scam with girls behind a curtain and you have to pay before even seeing the girl live.
Emotional reaction. Probably the good girls were busy already or booked. Doki Doki has some ugly girls (as per my first visit did not select a girl from 5 available) or just not my spec. Also has some better girls. My 2nd visit was a quiet time (Tuesday early afternoon maybe). 12+ girls available. I chose a slim girl with a very toned body. 1 or 2 others were possibilities. I don't really choose to evaluate all the other non starters. No point to it. Simply, the line up varies a lot.
Seeing 7 girls does not mean we know everything about the MP. Better luck next time.
In Doki the one does not have to pay before seeing the line up. I never do that. I did not notice any scams.
Does any MP have a lot of stunning girls? Maybe some Jap only MP will have well above average standard. All the MPs are packed full of dogs (from a pessimistic point of view), but there has to be some acceptable girls to be found somewhere, sometime.
I went into Club 102 with a large line up and failed to choose a girl. This could happen anywhere.
I guess I took a long way to answer a short question. Where are the best bang for your buck freelancers? Soi 4 still? Soi 11 hopefully? And honestly from someone who just got one in the last couple weeks, what's the LT fee average? This forum is cluttered with a wide margin, so just hoping a person who just LT a girl could tell me what price they paid.
Soi 4 has probably improved for standard of the best girls available, but just as many dogs as before. Yes its value for money if you get lucky and choose a good girl willing to make it fun, and body turns out not to be a disaster. She may not be the cheapest on the Soi. Thermae is a bit more costly, but also somewhat more risky for Farangs, if too picky about getting good natural looks (that is me).
I don't do LTs any more, well rarely. The price varies tremendously, depending on the girl. Some girls need as much as double a ST fee to consider it, meaning they don't need the business that desperately. They would prefer to do 2 or 3 STs per night. Some girls desperate or not busy, will do a good deal. Some girls just don't do LT at all. Have to get home to parents or to child or whatever. I suppose every girl is persuadable for enough money but that could be a silly price. Some guys will tell you take the ST fee and add 1 K. However many girls will certainly reject that as not enough to be worthwhile, if they can afford to loose the customer.
Emotional reaction. Probably the good girls were busy already or booked. Doki Doki has some ugly girls (as per my first visit did not select a girl from 5 available) or just not my spec. Also has some better girls. My 2nd visit was a quiet time (Tuesday early afternoon maybe). 12+ girls available. I chose a slim girl with a very toned body. 1 or 2 others were possibilities. I don't really choose to evaluate all the other non starters. No point to it. Simply, the line up varies a lot.
Seeing 7 girls does not mean we know everything about the MP. Better luck next time.
In Doki the one does not have to pay before seeing the line up. I never do that. I did not notice any scams.
Does any MP have a lot of stunning girls? Maybe some Jap only MP will have well above average standard. All the MPs are packed full of dogs (from a pessimistic point of view), but there has to be some acceptable girls to be found somewhere, sometime.
I went into Club 102 with a large line up and failed to choose a girl. This could happen anywhere.It's true. Yesterday I visited soi 31,33 (except doki doki because there was no room available for rest of day), amd looked at girls of many shops, dreak haven, hera, orange, mitu, thanks massage shop and I couldn't find a single doable girl.
Maybe it was my unlucky day but still 5-7 shops and not a single young cute girl. All were old, fat and with heavy makeup.
I feel only gogos and thermae are only options, if you want to bang hot chicks.
Just Monika.
3 pm Saturday.
The fucking heartbeat is dead. Middle aged mothers with 60 kilos of bodyweight and dark rough skin to boot offered there. I saw 7 girls and walled straight out. I don't care if they use Nuru gel, an old overweight hag doesn't rock my world.
Walked on down to soi 24 to all the little shops and the girls were all sitting outside in plain view, not like Doki where it was all a big scam with girls behind a curtain and you have to pay before even seeing the girl live.It's weird. I have never paid advance before seeing girls in doki doki. They show the girls and tell their names. You choose and then pay.
Service can be hit and miss because it depends on which girl you picked. And always remember, nuru massage takes lot of effort, so it's not like oul massage where you can do 5-6 clients with same enthusiasm.
But anyways, your experience seems quite odd.
Soi 4 has probably improved for standard of the best girls available, but just as many dogs as before. Yes its value for money if you get lucky and choose a good girl willing to make it fun, and body turns out not to be a disaster. She may not be the cheapest on the Soi. Thermae is a bit more costly, but also somewhat more risky for Farangs, if too picky about getting good natural looks (that is me).
I don't do LTs any more, well rarely. The price varies tremendously, depending on the girl. Some girls need as much as double a ST fee to consider it, meaning they don't need the business that desperately. They would prefer to do 2 or 3 STs per night. Some girls desperate or not busy, will do a good deal. Some girls just don't do LT at all. Have to get home to parents or to child or whatever. I suppose every girl is persuadable for enough money but that could be a silly price. Some guys will tell you take the ST fee and add 1 K. However many girls will certainly reject that as not enough to be worthwhile, if they can afford to loose the customer.Thank you. I never had any issues when I went to thermae last time. I'm only 45 and in decent shape, so maybe that works out for me. Last time I went I did see some girls reject me to go with a homely Asian, but I know it's about the quick cash for them. I think I'll my luck at soi 4, and hope to get a girl that wants to sleep in a nice bed and get free breakfast LOL.
It's true. Yesterday I visited soi 31,33 (except doki doki because there was no room available for rest of day), amd looked at girls of many shops, dreak haven, hera, orange, mitu, thanks massage shop and I couldn't find a single doable girl.
Maybe it was my unlucky day but still 5-7 shops and not a single young cute girl. All were old, fat and with heavy makeup.
I feel only gogos and thermae are only options, if you want to bang hot chicks.Ha ha. Saturday and you don't state what time of day. Your timing might not be optimal. I do agree that the overall standard of MP girls in general is a rather ordinary these days, with some MPs clearly declining. I have not tried those shops Mitu, Orange, Hera, so no clues about the overall standard. I did do a Dream Heaven girl once this year. Just one had a hot body at the time (brown skin and slim hot ass). When I wanted to repeat her, she was not there. I think I went to Mitu once but was required to select from photos only. No go, and the only good prospect was not available that day.
New Massage had a looker on occasions. One has to be prepared to try many shops. Try 12.30 or 1 pm on a Tuesday. Ha ha.
Sure I have done a pass of several MPs and empty handed, when maybe too late in the day. I would then probably try Soi 4 street girls, but may fail there too. My favourites have gone missing.
Recently I though the overall standard of girls sitting outside on Soi 23 was actually not too bad (as I passed on motorcycle), focussing on the good ones. I might try that area.
For looks I agree, I have much better chances at gogos overall, and prefer to select naked or near naked girls, but could use too much money.
It's true. Yesterday I visited soi 31,33 (except doki doki because there was no room available for rest of day), amd looked at girls of many shops, dreak haven, hera, orange, mitu, thanks massage shop and I couldn't find a single doable girl.
Maybe it was my unlucky day but still 5-7 shops and not a single young cute girl. All were old, fat and with heavy makeup.
I feel only gogos and thermae are only options, if you want to bang hot chicks.A friend made the same rounds yesterday and had the same result. Nothing of interest. That being said, Saturday is the busiest day. Best to hit those places Mon-Wed.
Recently I though the overall standard of girls sitting outside on Soi 23 was actually not too bad (as I passed on motorcycle), focussing on the good ones. I might try that area.
Soi 23, yeah, it has some young girls. Haven't tried them either.
I remember quality was much better earlier this year till March, I don't know if it has to do with the tourist season.
Soi 23, yeah, it has some young girls. Haven't tried them either.
I remember quality was much better earlier this year till March, I don't know if it has to do with the tourist season.Just right now (last 3 weeks) is the annual rice harvest. After floods, they had a fairly dry period, which may have caused some farms to have to harvest early.
If the rice gets wet during harvest they have to lay it out in the sun to dry. Otherwise will rot and get fungus. Ex PM Yingluck's famous rice scheme had problems due to rice getting damp when not properly stored, among other things.
Many girls go back to province to help with the family harvest. I have met girls in MPs and bars that went home to help harvest in previous years. Some farms use harvester, and others harvest by hand using sickle, especially if cannot afford harvester and farm is not too large. By hand is supposed to be better but labour intensive.
That is the only reason I could think of for decline in girls at this time. Laos (near to Thailand) and some other areas may have two annual harvests if they have plenty of irrigation water available.
I see many references to soi 24 and soi 4, among others. When I try to find them on google maps, it seems like several different locations come up and the ones that do are far away from each other. Can someone clue me into the actual locations of these places, like maybe a nearby business or something I can put into a mapping site?
I promise to give complete reviews when I return from my trip.
I see many references to Soi 24 and Soi 4, among others. When I try to find them on Google maps, it seems like several different locations come up.For Soi 24, go the the main Google search box and search for "Bangkok Compass Skyview Hotel." Then click on the "Maps" tab at the top of the page. Soi 24 runs SW/NE in front of the hotel. On Google maps it is labeled "Sukhumvit 24 Alley."
For Soi 4, go to the main Google search box and search for "Bangkok Nana Plaza." Then click on the "Maps" tab at the top of the page. Soi 4 runs S/N between Nana Plaza and the Nana Hotel. On Google maps it is labeled "Sukhumvit 4 Alley."
I see many references to soi 24 and soi 4, among others. When I try to find them on google maps, it seems like several different locations come up and the ones that do are far away from each other. Can someone clue me into the actual locations of these places, like maybe a nearby business or something I can put into a mapping site?
I promise to give complete reviews when I return from my trip.Google Nana Plaza soi 4 is there. Google Phrom Phong BTS or Addict massage Soi 24 is there.
I see many references to soi 24 and soi 4, among others. When I try to find them on google maps, it seems like several different locations come up and the ones that do are far away from each other. Can someone clue me into the actual locations of these places, like maybe a nearby business or something I can put into a mapping site?
I promise to give complete reviews when I return from my trip.Use the nearest Skytrain stations as references, you can find all the sois in between.
Nana BTS Station. Soi 4.
Asok BTS Station. Soi Cowboy, Terminal 21.
Phrom Phong BTS Station. Soi 24.
Member #4698
11-24-19, 18:27
I see many references to soi 24 and soi 4, among others. When I try to find them on google maps, it seems like several different locations come up and the ones that do are far away from each other. Can someone clue me into the actual locations of these places, like maybe a nearby business or something I can put into a mapping site?
I promise to give complete reviews when I return from my trip.CIM, Every major Blvd in Bangkok has side sois or alleys named and numbered accordingly. For example Ratchadaphisek Rd has all of it's side sois or alleys named Ratchadaphisek Soi xx, like Ratchadaphisek Soi 16 which happens to be proximate to one of my favorite soapies. Consequently, you will not have any more problems with future google map quests if you input the full name of the Soi that you are looking for which in this case happens to be "Sukhumvit Soi 4" or "Sukhumvit Soi 24".
AManHasNoName
11-24-19, 20:26
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low? And also budget friendly.
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low? And also budget friendly.They are all safe. Whether or not you are the victim of a scam depends on you. Read the forum and use your big head.
I can't comment on budget friendly since to me, all of Thailand is budget friendly. Budget unfriendly would be a night in a Gentleman's Club in Vegas followed by a lovely session with one of the girls. That's not going to happen for less than $5,000.
Don't forget, that when you get charged an extra 100 baht somewhere, that's $3. If a girl wants 2100 B, ask yourself whether its worth arguing over $3. My god, I saw some Chinese dude freaking out last night at Pizza Pala Romana (Fairly decent pizza near Asoke BTS, not real US style though, the best is the Quatre Formaggio) that he was shortchange 5 baht. 5 baht! That's 15 cents. They gave him his 5 baht and right in front of him, I gave the girls 10 saying here, make sure your register isn't short and keep the change. Went right over the dudes head LOL. But he got his 15 cents.
CIM, Every major Blvd in Bangkok has side sois or alleys named and numbered accordingly. For example Ratchadaphisek Rd has all of it's side sois or alleys named Ratchadaphisek Soi xx, like Ratchadaphisek Soi 16 which happens to be proximate to one of my favorite soapies. Consequently, you will not have any more problems with future google map quests if you input the full name of the Soi that you are looking for which in this case happens to be "Sukhumvit Soi 4" or "Sukhumvit Soi 24".Assuming that Google unders the spelling, since half of these places are spelled 3 different ways, LOL. But for the casual traveler around Suk and Silom, your advice is spot on.
And remember Krung Thep is Bangkok. I had to help a tourist yesterday with that. Where is Krung Thep? You are standing in it dude LOL.
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low? And also budget friendly.I don't live in BKK but I'm on my way for my 7th time. If you're a male and in decent shape and health all red light districts are safe. If this is your first time in BKK then you'll be amazed how many people are in the same area as you, looking for the same thing as you. Sadly you are going to Bangkok at one of the worst times. Prices are high and the baht is its strongest it's been in almost forever, so budget is not something you really should think about if you want to have a good time. What I do is plan out how much I want to spend a day on "fun". I'm either going to spend it at a massage during the day or a freelancer at night.
Good red light areas are Nana, soi cowboy, soi 11. Soi 23-3 e for massages. Just be sensible. Don't get so drunk you make yourself a target of anything, specially your bill at bars. Don't argue with locals and have fun.
. Don't argue with locals and have fun.Spot on. Remember, the Thais are always right, if you feel you're getting ripped off really bad, then smile, pay the money and go to the tourist police. If you get nasty or gnarly with any Thai person, you run the risk of a serious beating.
I think that Thai people are the nicest and coolest people in the world, but don't insult their country, their King, their religion or act aggressively towards them.
Keep in mind also that in all of the various bars in the entertainment venues, there are tons of low lives who inflamed with alcohol and lust are just looking for trouble. Don't get involved in anything, just chill and enjoy the fun.
My god, I saw some Chinese dude freaking out last night at Pizza Pala Romana (Fairly decent pizza near Asoke BTS, not real US style though, the best is the Quatre Formaggio) that he was shortchange 5 baht. 5 baht! That's 15 cents. They gave him his 5 baht and right in front of him, I gave the girls 10 saying here, make sure your register isn't short and keep the change. Went right over the dudes head LOL. But he got his 15 cents.Haha that was fun. I remember I did something similar a while ago, not for the pizza though. There was some guy sitting next to me in a gogo was trying very hard to bargain with a girl. She was asking 2500 and he was adamant on 2 k. Girl was cute and had a nice rack. So I just hijacked their conversation and told the girl I will give 2500. Though I did feel bad for the guy, but girl was hot enough that 3 k won't be big deal for her. I always say, look at the girl before bargaining.
P.S.: I had a great time with her.
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low? And also budget friendly.Regarding safe, like everyone said make sure you don't drink too much that even you don't remember how many drinks you had. Better, if you're new to this, pay with every drink.
Regarding budget friendly, well I don't what's your budget.
But gogos can be very expensive. Bar fine + drinks + lady drinks + and money you give girl, all included can be a lot. Thermae can be good option if you're asian.
Otherwise massage shops, though quality and service can be hit and miss. Read the massage thread.
For Soi 24, go the the main Google search box and search for "Bangkok Compass Skyview Hotel." Then click on the "Maps" tab at the top of the page. Soi 24 runs SW/NE in front of the hotel. On Google maps it is labeled "Sukhumvit 24 Alley."
For Soi 4, go to the main Google search box and search for "Bangkok Nana Plaza." Then click on the "Maps" tab at the top of the page. Soi 4 runs S/N between Nana Plaza and the Nana Hotel. On Google maps it is labeled "Sukhumvit 4 Alley."Thanks, Bunky, and everyone who replied.
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low? And also budget friendly.Stay away from tuk tuk drivers otherwise all safe. Budget friendly, consider Pattaya not sure what you budget is but hearing 1 k barfine 2-3 k for girl.
Stay away from tuk tuk drivers otherwise all safe. Budget friendly, consider Pattaya not sure what you budget is but hearing 1 k barfine 2-3 k for girl.I have no problem with tuk tuks and use them judiciously depending on where I am. Usually all it takes is a paeng mak and start to walk away and I get the fare I am willing to pay which I know from experience is fair. Never go where they suggest.
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low?I believe the only scam you need to worry about is in Patpong. It will be for some of those ping pong shows. Not all ping pong show bars are scammers. If you go to one of those scamming bars, they might try to charge you $100+ for a beer. Multiple guys will surround you and pressure you to pay. Never touch them. They will not beat you up, if you don't touch them. The tour book said, if you pay up, just go to the tourist police and they will get you a refund. It happened to me 25 years ago. I just refused to pay. After several minutes, they let me go after I paid the normal cost of the beer.
This info is from 10 years ago. If you need to go to a ping pong show, go to the upstairs bars on the main street which has the "king" or "queen" name. Avoid the ping pong bars on the side street.
There's no real rip off bars in Nana and Cowboy, just high prices.
Never been to Pattaya's Playgirl bar which promises sex shows. I am assuming it's like the ping pong bars in Phuket. I was told that under Thai law, all prices must be posted. When I entered a ping pong bar in Phuket, normal prices were posted on the menu. But I read the fine print. Those prices were for the second drink. I turned over the menu, and the prices for the first drink were listed. The first beer was 20 something dollars. I believe you can't complain because the prices were listed. Plus the prices were not crazy, just ridiculously high.
Which red light area will be comparatively safe for a solo travelers? Where possibility of getting scammed is relatively low? And also budget friendly.Long time ago there were lots of scams. I have seen personally a westerner beaten up by 4 Thai on the street. Not sure what is the reason. Unless you start being physical nobody will beat you up.
As others have said scams are about drink or good prices you order. When you order they will bring a check and place it in a container. Smart thing to do is check pay right away and do not run a tab. More you drink more drunk you get and become a target. If you buy a drink for the girl ask how much first. There is reputed bars who are good, however sometimes it is the waitresses who scam you not giving you the right change. You are in a foreign country and do not get drunk. Entertainment places are packed with hustlers although thais are generally very nice.
If you read through the forum you will get lots tips about what not to do.
I have no problem with tuk tuks and use them judiciously depending on where I am. Usually all it takes is a paeng mak and start to walk away and I get the fare I am willing to pay which I know from experience is fair. Never go where they suggest.Once in India I took a human powered rickshaw, at the end of the journey he asked for an exorbitant price much more than if I took a bicycle rickshaw or any other form of transport, I began to argue with him and he took up his rickshaw and walked away; I ran behind him and paid what he asked.
.......... My god, I saw some Chinese dude freaking out last night at Pizza Pala Romana (Fairly decent pizza near Asoke BTS, not real US style though, the best is the Quatre Formaggio) that he was shortchange 5 baht. 5 baht! That's 15 cents...........I would not be surprised if he were a millionaire. Its the principle not the actual money.
I would not be surprised if he were a millionaire. Its the principle not the actual money.He wasn't a millionaire, trust me. He was a cheap Charlie. He probably negotiates in Thermae, fails and then goes on the Chinese version of this forum to complain about westerners inflating prices.
Haha that was fun. I remember I did something similar a while ago, not for the pizza though. There was some guy sitting next to me in a gogo was trying very hard to bargain with a girl. She was asking 2500 and he was adamant on 2 k. Girl was cute and had a nice rack. So I just hijacked their conversation and told the girl I will give 2500. Though I did feel bad for the guy, but girl was hot enough that 3 k won't be big deal for her. I always say, look at the girl before bargaining.
P.S.: I had a great time with her.Haha. If I wasn't so busy, I'd go to thermae every night and after a quote say Mae Paeng, you Swai mak and offer 5000. Falang big money, like Thai lady, 5000 OK for falang.
Yeah. Price the Asians out. The stock market is setting records, time to spend money!
As we all know, your age goes north and your teeth starting to go south, can someone please recommend a good cosmetic dental center in Bangkok or Pattaya based on experience? Thanks.
I see some of the beer bars from Queen's Park Plaza on Sukhumvit Soi 22 and set to close are relocating to a new beer bar complex on Sukhumvit Soi 7 right before Beer Garden.
I think Rumors Bar was the biggest one at the old location and already has a sign up in the new location. It might be open for business sometime during the evening already. It was hard to tell this afternoon.
I only had 1 decent (acceptable) experience with a girl I barfined from a bar in that Queen's Park Plaza complex out of a half dozen tries over the past few years. And the second time I took her it was abysmal. Yet she continued to pester me for a third try every time I passed through that complex for the next few years.
YMMV at the new location of course. My MMV at the new location, too, I suppose. We'll see.
I only had 1 decent (acceptable) experience with a girl I barfined from a bar in that Queen's Park Plaza complex out of a half dozen tries over the past few years. And the second time I took her it was abysmal. Yet she continued to pester me for a third try every time I passed through that complex for the next few years.
Ha ha. So moving the bar won't be much help. I never had any good experiences on Soi 22 area either, and not much talent seen. June at Bongkot was my only Soi 22 girl.
Maybe someone can tell us the spots on Soi 22 with better quality girls.
As we all know, your age goes north and your teeth starting to go south, can someone please recommend a good cosmetic dental center in Bangkok or Pattaya based on experience? Thanks.Teeth don't need to go south so much. Start going to dentist for check, clean and scale at least 3 times per year. Problems reduce. Okay Old crowns and old fillings can still be a problem. Don't eat anything hard crunchy.
I have not set aside the money to fix my discoloured teeth (probably caused by Tetracyclines at a young age) and crooked teeth but it will be a hell of a lot cheaper than in a western country.
As we all know, your age goes north and your teeth starting to go south, can someone please recommend a good cosmetic dental center in Bangkok or Pattaya based on experience? Thanks.In Pattaya, it would probably be best to go to the Dental Centre at the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital on Sukhumvit Rd.
Also, the Pattaya International Dental Centre (PIDC) on Soi Buakhao corner of Soi Honey could be okay. Kev in Thailand picked up a set of new choppers there and recommended it.
Ha ha. So moving the bar won't be much help. I never had any good experiences on Soi 22 area either, and not much talent seen. June at Bongkot was my only Soi 22 girl.
Maybe someone can tell us the spots on Soi 22 with better quality girls.Well, I assume not every girl who worked in the bars when they were on Soi 22 will show up on Soi 7. Maybe some drop offs or some new faces from this area. And there is always the possibility that the bars and the girls who do work there will have to up their game in order to compete with many more beer bar (and go-go bar) options in the immediate Soi 7 area than they had on Soi 22.
Well, I assume not every girl who worked in the bars when they were on Soi 22 will show up on Soi 7.Soi 22 had little talent anyway. I've stayed at Queens Park hotel on Soi 22 many times from 1999 until now. 20 years ago, there were some decent girls in Washington square, but I can't recall any girl in those soi 22 bars that I would say was anything great.
Soi 22 had little talent anyway. I've stayed at Queens Park hotel on Soi 22 many times from 1999 until now. 20 years ago, there were some decent girls in Washington square, but I can't recall any girl in those soi 22 bars that I would say was anything great.Yes, the few times I have taken a girl from there I did so thinking she might deliver in service what she is lacking in looks. It seemed the right place for such a calculation; more expats, regulars and repeat customers in that Soi 22 location away from the more touristy centers and all. But it only turned out to be that way the 1 time.
And not that the girls were all homely. I could find some cuties there. In fact, one of the girls I used to take from that area had been an all nude go-go dancer in Crazy House during its first 2-3 year heyday. And she was hot. I didn't count her in this particular discussion because I first met her and started taking her fairly regularly when she was still working in Crazy House. So I didn't consider her a Queen's Park Plaza find. I guess she would have been that for someone else who didn't know her from before though.
Ok, so I don't know how experienced you are but I suspect that you may have been a little hasty. Thailand is actually the only country in which I have been successful in bedding a girl met on social media. I am not one who loves the thrill of the chase and am quite impatient in seeking coital release, hence my penchant for our hobby. From my experience I found that the girls I met on social media in LOS basically have the same goal as I have. Initially, they will be a little coy and not as forthright as perhaps western women but you will have them in the sack way quicker than you will a girl back home. My only caveat though and I don't know what other blokes' experiences are in this regard is that I have never gotten a blow job be it CBJ or BBBJ from a non-pro met on social media in Thailand.By "social media", do you mean FB, Instagram? Or do you mean Tinder, and other dating apps? I have gone on quite a few dates that didn't lead anywhere (mainly due to my lack of interest, or in one case, hers), but my most successful non-pro experiences have been (and ongoing with a couple) with girls I've approached in person.
JesseJames
11-30-19, 14:35
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My only caveat though and I don't know what other blokes' experiences are in this regard is that I have never gotten a blow job be it CBJ or BBBJ from a non-pro met on social media in Thailand.I think in general, Thai girls are not into BJs as much as in the west or Latin America. Thai girls can be not big on kissing as well until they get sexually worked up. Plenty of Thai girls never give their Thai BFs a BJ as well. Even some hookers are lazy to give a BJ.
The culture tends to be somewhat that the guy makes the action and the girl is more the submissive partner. On the other hand I find Thai girls are into DATY in a big way generally, and also a lot are into cowgirl. They know what things are going to help them to get off. Have met some wild cats in bed too. Some girls actually don't want to go on top and do any work, although may depend on the dick length. It is fortunate I am more of a doer than a receiver. I am not the guy to just lie back and hope to get blown. For lazy guys, I think they really need very service oriented hookers.
Just generalising. I know there are Thai girls that are exceptions, and have one regular with high energy high stamina. Still I never had a GF so keen to service me, that she would habitually jump on me first thing in the morning. A girl that would do that, would be really special. To wake up to your dick being in a mouth or pussy would be rather special.
I think in general, Thai girls are not into BJs as much as in the west or Latin America. Thai girls can be not big on kissing as well until they get sexually worked up. Plenty of Thai girls never give their Thai BFs a BJ as well. Even some hookers are lazy to give a BJ.
The culture tends to be somewhat that the guy makes the action and the girl is more the submissive partner. On the other hand I find Thai girls are into DATY in a big way generally, and also a lot are into cowgirl. They know what things are going to help them to get off. Have met some wild cats in bed too. Some girls actually don't want to go on top and do any work, although may depend on the dick length. It is fortunate I am more of a doer than a receiver. I am not the guy to just lie back and hope to get blown. For lazy guys, I think they really need very service oriented hookers.
Just generalising. I know there are Thai girls that are exceptions, and have one regular with high energy high stamina. Still I never had a GF so keen to service me, that she would habitually jump on me first thing in the morning. A girl that would do that, would be really special. To wake up to your dick being in a mouth or pussy would be rather special.I think if I were a guy who laid back and hoped to get blown to a real blowjob finish (not talking about mere oral foreplay) I would probably rarely if ever get a real blowjob in Thailand. LOL. In my experience, negotiating, requesting, arranging, maneuvering, explaining, teaching and finally accomplishing getting a real blowjob to a real blowjob finish from any Thai girl not working in a BJ Bar specifically in that line of work is NOT for lazy guys at all. It will require much more effort on your part than getting them to spread their legs for fucking. Or even spreading their ass cheeks for Anal.
I have also never had a Thai P4P girl staying for Long Time wake me up with my dick in her mouth, tugging at me to fuck her again and so on. Without my requesting it I mean. Yeah, I read about that happening in other guys' Field Reports. And I don't think I am that bad of a sex partner. LOL. But in all honesty I have not had a girl that I pay directly for sex initiate more sex in the morning rather than wait for me to initiate it. And if I don't initiate it or ask for it, it will not happen.
However, I have had many girls I've met on the dating sites and social networks in Thailand, non-pros let's say, initiate sex with me morning, noon and night, including by starting it with a BBBJ as foreplay, even several times initiating a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow from start to finish. Providing I have done the "work" ahead of time of informing them that is something I really like, of course. It's with direct P4P girls where I don't get those second or third fuck requests initiated with a BBBJ or any other stimulation. Sure, if I reach over and initiate something in that regard the P4P girls will usually respond positively. But that is not the way I generally read it being described in many Field Reports here.
Thanks for the recommendations. There was a time when I frequented this website primarily for mongering purposes but that was more than 20 years ago. My needs now are a little different, hehe.
BMoreDog69
12-01-19, 05:50
I have had some luck with pros, but I think it comes down to how you select the girl. I do not select solely on looks. I'll take an 8 with a great attitude, who seems eager, over a 10 with a lackluster personality. Yes, they can all seem eager to get you to pay the BF, but I think if you keep your wits about you, you can pick ladies that are going to be good partners, and do things like initiate additional sex, BJ to swallow, etc. Frankly, though, too many pros are trained by too many mongers to provide a fairly minimal level of service.
Been to BKK 5 times now and first time (and last) checking out levels nightclub. To preface this, I'm 45 and work out daily and consider myself decent looking. Made eye contact with 3-4 girls and the least quote was 5 k short time. These chicks in this bar are really hot and dressed up, but 5 k I almost laughed in their face. Walked out after about 1 HR there and took a grab over to soi 4 for last hour before closing. Grabbed a girl 3 k long term. Anyone else have the same experience at this place?
I think if I were a guy who laid back and hoped to get blown to a real blowjob finish (not talking about mere oral foreplay) I would probably rarely if ever get a real blowjob in Thailand. LOL. In my experience, negotiating, requesting, arranging, maneuvering, explaining, teaching and finally accomplishing getting a real blowjob to a real blowjob finish from any Thai girl not working in a BJ Bar specifically in that line of work is NOT for lazy guys at all. It will require much more effort on your part than getting them to spread their legs for fucking. Or even spreading their ass cheeks for Anal.
I have also never had a Thai P4P girl staying for Long Time wake me up with my dick in her mouth, tugging at me to fuck her again and so on. Without my requesting it I mean. Yeah, I read about that happening in other guys' Field Reports. And I don't think I am that bad of a sex partner. LOL. But in all honesty I have not had a girl that I pay directly for sex initiate more sex in the morning rather than wait for me to initiate it. And if I don't initiate it or ask for it, it will not happen.
ET, Thanks I find your post quite amusing, makes me laugh a little, meaning funny but all too true. Others should note that it is not necessary to use a lot of sarcasm or irony, to be amusing. Quite the reverse, at least for my taste in semi-humorous writing.
Like you, I never expected the mot magnificent BJ other than at a BJ bar, so if I happened to get a really good one, its a bonus. If I did not get one or got a bad one and needed it to stop, that is much more frequent. Its not essential to have a great BJ most of the time, however if the girl is acting difficult, won't kiss, won't BJ, won't allow DATY not fingering, then I Could well be faced with a girl demanding to know why my dick isn't hard? Ha ha. I might have to try to wank it up myself or on occasions even failed that. Although I like looking at naked girls, it is no longer enough to give me a raging hard on, yet you can get this question "why aren't you hard already"? Normally nice kissing without touching the dick at all will give me a good erection faster even than a BJ. Can't say why that is. Trying to teach girls to go soft and slow on a BJ is typically useless and trying to keep her hand away that is making friction pain is also a problem. I may be different to others due to circumcision, requiring any hand stroke to be upwards and not downwards (which painfully stretches the skin), but girls always think they know better than what we tell them to do. So I almost always hate Hand jobs. Girl are usually bad at that too.
I did report that once in my life in the early 90's, a newbie bargirl kept waking me up through the night for more sex, but probably never ever happened again. Ha ha.
Why are Thai girls so scared to really initiate sex. These days if my Mr comes to sleep in same bed, I regard that as a go for your life signal, but I still have to start it. If she was a bit high on good weed, then she might be even less subtle and put one leg over mine and say "bite me" (in Thai of course) meaning "DATY please", but never so bold as to go for my dick, or just start a BJ. I would love it she would even just stand there with the light on and sexily take her clothes off. Some how many Thai girls don't seem to be able to be "so bold". What percentage want the lights dimmed way down? Is it just the guy is too ugly or they don't want their own body to be seen in strong lighting? Even my Mrs is hot, I think she is shy to be seen naked in full lighting.
Of my regular girls, I would say only one is really totally un-shy about sex and being naked. How many times did you take a hooker and find that she wants to undress alone in the bathroom? Quite common. We will see them naked anyway but shy about the undressing.
Obviously they don't get taught sexuality at school, so where are they going to learn? Is there nothing better than porn movies with all the bullshit that accompanies them?
...........but my most successful non-pro experiences have been (and ongoing with a couple) with girls I've approached in person.Have you gotten blow jobs from them?
Member #4698
12-01-19, 21:01
Wow, strange to bring a girl to Bangkok, as though the mongering options were not so good. Is this the new "Shrimp?" Ha ha. Must be a really fun girl. However I once took a girl with me to Pattaya and that certainly cramped my style to experience Pattaya properly. I learned the lesson though.Strange? Maybe on the surface it might seem so, kind of like bringing my own condiments to a great gourmet restaurant or sand to the beach, but there is reason to my apparent madness. 555; I like Yangon Sally and think it will be fun to fly her into BKK for a few nights. Sally is a pretty savvy high class Burmese FL, but she has never been outside of Myanmar and I think BKK is gonna blow her mind.
It is not like I haven't done this before with other favorite girls:
1. Back in 2011 I met the Princess in What's Up A Go Go in Pattaya. I knew I wanted her the 1st second I laid my eyes on her. Anyway, I spent the next 4 nights and 4 afternoons with her. It was great and then we said goodbye. A week later she texted me saying she was coming up to BKK to see her daughter and her mother who both lived in BKK and would I like to see her? Duh, so she came up on her own dime and spent 2 additional nights with me while seeing her family in the day.
The following year I hooked up with the Princess again in Pattaya for 5 nights straight and about 2 weeks later she again came up to BKK. It was great. Then I lost track of her for 3 years. So Sad. 555. I actually missed her. But in 2015 I very unexpectedly ran into her again at Sapphire Go Go. She looked a tad older and wiser, but still good. She came up to me and said, "Mak, do you remember me?" and I said, "Of course I remember you Nut. I will never forget you" and that was it for the remaining 4 nights of that Pattaya visit. And yes, a couple of weeks later she came up to BKK and stayed at my hotel while seeing her family. Sadly, that was the last I saw of her. Kind of doubt I will ever see her again, but you never know.
2. You remember Atomic? I introduced her to you back in Fall 2018 when she was working in RB5. Well I really liked that one too and was looking forward to seeing her again when I returned to BKK the following Spring 2019. We averaged texting back and forth around 2 x a month. So, I booked my BKK hotels way in advance to lock in some very good rates. Anyway, about a month before I was due back in BKK Atomic tells me she has moved to Phuket. It's too late to get out of some of my BKK reservations so I offer to fly Atomic up to BKK so she comes up and we spend 3 nights together. It was great! Really great! We went all over and saw the sights, did a little shopping (it was great fun sneaking into the women's dressing area with her to try on a Bikini in a big mall department store) and some serious eating. It all went by too fast and we had to say goodbye and she flew back to Phuket, but about 10 days later she texts me to say she is about to embark on a Japan / Korea trip with a girlfriend. I vaguely remember that she mentioned the trip when we were together, but I didn't pay much attention to it. Anyway, she says she will be arriving in BKK early in the morning and asks if it would be ok if she comes over and stays with me until her plane leaves early the next morning. This time the air fare was on her and we did not leave my hotel room for 14 hours. You may ask what we did in a hotel room for that long and if it got boring. All I can say is we did a lot of stuff and no, it wasn't boring.
So that takes the story line up to the present except that I am talking about Atomic, Ha Ha. After her triumphant tour of NE Asia, she flew back to Phuket, so anticipating no changes, I booked a nice little hotel in Phuket for a long weekend side trip reunion and I am looking forward to our rendezvous. But about a month ago Atomic tells me she is going to move back to BKK so she can go back to University and get her degree in Finance. You can't make this stuff up. 555. So I booked a room in BKK for the same time period as the Phuket reservation. This way I have a call option on either possibility. So, in addition to bringing Yangon Sally in for a long weekend I also have plans to see Atomic in one of two destinations.
I make these various arrangements not because the BKK mongering options are not plentiful or first rate. I think they are and I am looking forward to meeting lots of NEW girls! You know me. I like the hunt. I like New and variety. But I also enjoy hooking up with a few of my favorites over and over again. Yangon Sally & Atomic are currently at the top of my favorite's list. Mini is on the list too, but in decline, 555. I will still probably see Mini on my 1st or 2nd night back in town. Then there is that little cutie from RB2. You know the one. We were barhopping together the night I met her. Anyway, I saw RB2 5 times during my last trip. Since then we text and if things go as well as I think they might she will become one of my repeat favorites. But we shall see.
This post is getting rather long winded so I will finish up my thought. If my BKK time was more limited to say a week or 10 days, then bringing in a girl from the outside would affect the trip significantly and cut down on my meeting new BKK girls, but my next trip is clocking in at 12 weeks. It is going to be my longest mongering trip to date. My Fall 2017 trip was only 11 weeks. Ha Ha. The plan is simple: 7. 5 weeks in BKK, 8 nights in Pattaya, 3 nights in Yangon, & 3 weeks in Jakarta. So I will have plenty of time in BKK for my favorite girls and plenty of time to meet a lot of New girls especially since I average 1. 25 girls a night. I would not like to miss out on anything. I like old favorites, I like NEW, I like young girls 18 to 25 and I like older girls 26 to 35. I like Thai & Indo girls best, but I also like Pinays, Khmers, and Chinese girls, and I go wherever I can find the best ones available ie in Go Go's, Bordellos, FL bars, and maybe this time I might even try the social media sites. My next trip is coming up fairly soon. I am thinking it might be one of my best.
Been to BKK 5 times now and first time (and last) checking out levels nightclub. To preface this, I'm 45 and work out daily and consider myself decent looking. Made eye contact with 3-4 girls and the least quote was 5 k short time. These chicks in this bar are really hot and dressed up, but 5 k I almost laughed in their face. Walked out after about 1 HR there and took a grab over to soi 4 for last hour before closing. Grabbed a girl 3 k long term. Anyone else have the same experience at this place?I went to levels and Grabbed one out of there on fri. Very hot babe, 21, a "student" and a fun time. I usually go to Mixx or Spasso though for the real high class performers. But I try to hit levels or the other club down at the end once a month. Anytime I go out to one of these places I figure it's a 10 k night with food, drink, entrance fees, taxis, a tip for the girl, breakfast in the morning, etc. I don't do the low end babes on soi 4. By the way, I'm old fat ugly and happy. My 21 year old spinner that I met out of Thermae last year just left and she cooked me a Fab dinner last night, there is American football on the tube, the stock market makes my wallet bulge and there will be tons of fun things to do in Thailand this month. Life is grand, except for the exchange rate LOL.
Strange? Maybe on the surface it might seem so, kind of like bringing my own condiments to a great gourmet restaurant or sand to the beach, but there is reason to my apparent madness. 555; I like Yangon Sally and think it will be fun to fly her into BKK for a few nights. Sally is a pretty savvy high class Burmese FL, but she has never been outside of Myanmar and I think BKK is gonna blow her mind.
It is not like I haven't done this before with other favorite girls:
I did think Atomic blonde was a really great looking girl, without knowing her.
I certainly agree that several days with the right girl you know well can be really fun, I would probably prefer to take them away to a holiday destination where the mongering options were weak or difficult, or not so much to mongering venues.
Sometimes the girls have curiosity and want to see ladyboy bars too. No idea why.
I have taken girls away, to all sorts of Thailand destinations and to Singapore. 4 days in Krabi and Koh Phi Phi was one highlight trip. There is monger action in Krabi but not that great for the girl talent. Koh Lipe another trip. Several days in Mae Hong Son once, etc. A holiday is always more fun with a hot girl, if its the right girl.
Nice of you to show Sally Bangkok, but will be a problem if it makes her wish to work there, since bars generally can't accept foreigners.
I twice took a bi sexual girl into bars, to let them lust after hot naked girls, but wasn't a really great idea. The choices of girls liked did not impress me.
Once I met a very young girl newbie at a cart bar (I did not know at first), and found she had fabulous tits and a big Bush. I thought to take her to Crazy House to see all the shaved pussies next time. However next time did not happen. A police sweep out of Soi 21 Cart bars occurred, and my contact phone number for the girl did not work any more. I hate loosing contact with really great girls.
As we all know, your age goes north and your teeth starting to go south, can someone please recommend a good cosmetic dental center in Bangkok or Pattaya based on experience? Thanks.I've used BIDC in Ratchada near Thai Cultural Center since 2012.5 crowns, several fillings, cleaning, whitening etc. And all high quality, about one third the price I pay in the States. Highly recommended. No bullshit, transparent price list, no surprises. Happy customer.
I went to levels and Grabbed one out of there on fri. Very hot babe, 21, a "student" and a fun time. I usually go to Mixx or Spasso though for the real high class performers. But I try to hit levels or the other club down at the end once a month. Anytime I go out to one of these places I figure it's a 10 k night with food, drink, entrance fees, taxis, a tip for the girl, breakfast in the morning, etc. I don't do the low end babes on soi 4. By the way, I'm old fat ugly and happy. My 21 year old spinner that I met out of Thermae last year just left and she cooked me a Fab dinner last night, there is American football on the tube, the stock market makes my wallet bulge and there will be tons of fun things to do in Thailand this month. Life is grand, except for the exchange rate LOL.10 k! Man I wish I could get myself to spend that money. I have it, but I see getting 3-4 girls a little better bargain. You are correct though, there are some serious smoke shows in that place. To bad I'm leaving BKK today and off to Angeles City.
I went to levels and Grabbed one out of there on fri. Very hot babe, 21, a "student" and a fun time. I usually go to Mixx or Spasso though for the real high class performers. But I try to hit levels or the other club down at the end once a month. Anytime I go out to one of these places I figure it's a 10 k night with food, drink, entrance fees, taxis, a tip for the girl, breakfast in the morning, etc. I don't do the low end babes on soi 4. By the way, I'm old fat ugly and happy. My 21 year old spinner that I met out of Thermae last year just left and she cooked me a Fab dinner last night, there is American football on the tube, the stock market makes my wallet bulge and there will be tons of fun things to do in Thailand this month. Life is grand, except for the exchange rate LOL.Even though I am doing just fine financially and could spend that kind of money on a night out, it's just not worth it to me. I just don't find the experience more satisfying then when I was spending less than 3 k for that on a full night out. And that was with a 40 plus exchange rate. If I spent 10 k on an evening out, I'd think, wow, could have had a really nice pair of Japanese selvedge denim or a new pair of Red Wings for that. I'll take soi 4 or the oilies and spend the rest on something else. Now, if I was getting a 10 plus in looks and a PSE over the top for that three hundred, I might do it once in awhile. To each his own.
Even though I am doing just fine financially and could spend that kind of money on a night out, it's just not worth it to me. I just don't find the experience more satisfying then when I was spending less than 3 k for that on a full night out. And that was with a 40 plus exchange rate. If I spent 10 k on an evening out, I'd think, wow, could have had a really nice pair of Japanese selvedge denim or a new pair of Red Wings for that. I'll take soi 4 or the oilies and spend the rest on something else. Now, if I was getting a 10 plus in looks and a PSE over the top for that three hundred, I might do it once in awhile. To each his own.To each his own. Exactly.
I don't buy expensive clothes, lots of shoes etc. In fact I generally buy nothing here except low end Tshirts and such like since every type of luxury good or most electronics I would ever buy is cheaper in the USA. I was looking at watches the other day and they had one for $6000 US equivalent that I could buy in the US with sales tax for $3 K.
Look at it this way, just as an estimate.
Cab to dinner 100.
Dinner 500 (assuming I don't eatigo a buffet and if I do, double that).
Cab to first venue 100.
Cab to second venue 100.
Entrance fee 2 venues 700.
Two drinks each venue 1000.
Buy a drink for a chick and another one for me 500.
Cab to lair of love 100.
Looky I'm over 3000 already and I haven't even tipped my GF for the evening.
I'm 64 years old and when I decide to go out, I'm going to go out. Can't take it with you. Thank god my limit is 4-5 drinks, unlike when I was in drinking shape.
My next trip is clocking in at 12 weeks: 7. 5 weeks in BKK, 8 nights in Pattaya, 3 nights in Yangon, and 3 weeks in Jakarta. So I will have plenty of time in BKK for my favorite girls and plenty of time to meet a lot of new girls especially since I average 1.25 girls a night.I am not worthy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc
Natty Bumpo,
An enviable itinerary my friend! But I have a question. What do you do with one-fourth of a girl? Perhaps it is just her head and she is giving you head hahahahahaha.
Member #4698
12-02-19, 19:21
I am not worthy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYcThe guys I take my hat off to are the players who can walk into a nightclub solo, pick out 2 or 3 stewardesses or models at a private table, charm them, get them laughing in the 1st minute of conversation, buy a bottle, dance all night, and wind up shagging at least one of the girls.
In my yute (youth) I used to pick up a lot of girls in bars. I guess that's one of the reasons I like the Go Go scene so much. It reminds me of those early days and I feel very at home in that setting. But even back in those early days there were a couple of my friends who could run circles around my moves with girls. Those guys had game and made picking up girls anywhere look so easy. I never let them know it, but I was envious of their natural, or so it seemed to me at the time, God given talent. Ha Ha.
By "social media", do you mean FB, Instagram? Or do you mean Tinder, and other dating apps? I have gone on quite a few dates that didn't lead anywhere (mainly due to my lack of interest, or in one case, hers), but my most successful non-pro experiences have been (and ongoing with a couple) with girls I've approached in person.I'm not sure what the previous poster used, but during this lengthy trip, I've had my best luck with TF, Tinder and Instagram. The TF women I met online before I arrived, so was playing the long game there. One was P4P and two were not, but they always find a way to get something out of you, dinner or drinks or both. Tinder was good to fill an immediate need, and I met two on IG who were part time FLs as they both had jobs, one at Hooters on Soi 4 and the other at a hotel. And one of the TF girls became a part time GF and we had a spectacular time. Unfortunately, she was a Thai living abroad so was only back a month to visit family.
Compare that with several less than memorable experiences with Nana Go Go girls, an okay bargirl experience from one of the Hillary's, and a really good GFE with a 24 year old From Beer Garden, and I think the social media / online route isn't too bad if you want to put in a little effort. It's a trade-off of time vs quality, though nothing is a sure thing. I can tell you that for the 3 I met on Thai Friendly, I thought I had a list of 15 women to meet when I arrived, but they would disappear. A word of advice here: never plan to meet with a woman you've not communicated with off a SM or dating platform (E. G, Line) or met in person before because chances are she will not show up. A lot of them use translators to communicate, so don't speak English, so don't have the courage to meet you. I wasted one evening at Spectrum skybar to learn that lesson. And it helped me by asking more questions with women I chatted with in the future.
I posted today about my experience at Doki Doki too and would put that one on the 'plus' side, thanks to the folks on that board who recommended it. Good immediate solution.
My experiences with the typical FL and Thermae girl lead no where, so didn't bother with that too much. Asking price was ridiculous. But I think I would like to try Smooci sometime to see if that can also fill the 'got to have it now' need with a reasonable quality girl. We'll see.
Just to put this into perspective, if I can meet women, anyone can. I'm 60, good shape, but hardly a catch for a 21 year old unless she's a pro who likes the size of my, er, wallet.
My 2 cents.
Member #4698
12-02-19, 19:53
An enviable itinerary my friend! But I have a question. What do you do with one-fourth of a girl? Perhaps it is just her head and she is giving you head hahahahahaha.Naw, head don't count. I view BBBJ's as an aperitif or foreplay before sexual intercourse which for me is almost always vaginal sex with or without glove.
It's just math. If I do 14 girls in 10 nights it averages out to 1.4 girls a night. 12 girls in 10 nights is 1.2 girls a night. So my average over many years worth of travel is pretty consistently pegged at around 1.25 girls per night per trip. The funny thing is that I usually start out doing 1 girl a night, but as the trip goes on, something happens, and I start doing more girls per night. I would have thought it would be the opposite ie that I would do more girls early on when fresher and less girls later on when more sated, but no, I tend to do more girls towards the end of a trip than at the beginning. I guess I just get into the groove and let it roll.
Naw, head don't count. I view BBBJ's as an aperitif or foreplay before sexual intercourse which for me is almost always vaginal sex with or without glove.............Sometimes head could be just as good or even feel better than vaginal sex. I don't get that very often but when I session a girl who does it in a way that just feels toe curling amazing I allow her to take me to fruition.
Member #4635
12-03-19, 02:30
Hi everyone,
Sorry if this is in wrong thread. Anyone staying near Sofitel this week, and don't mind a newbie tagging along at night to see how things work? Thank you.
To each his own. Exactly.
I don't buy expensive clothes, lots of shoes etc. In fact I generally buy nothing here except low end Tshirts and such like since every type of luxury good or most electronics I would ever buy is cheaper in the USA. I was looking at watches the other day and they had one for $6000 US equivalent that I could buy in the US with sales tax for $3 K.
Look at it this way, just as an estimate.
Cab to dinner 100.
Dinner 500 (assuming I don't eatigo a buffet and if I do, double that).
Cab to first venue 100.
Cab to second venue 100.
Entrance fee 2 venues 700.
Two drinks each venue 1000.
Buy a drink for a chick and another one for me 500.
Cab to lair of love 100.
Looky I'm over 3000 already and I haven't even tipped my GF for the evening.
I'm 64 years old and when I decide to go out, I'm going to go out. Can't take it with you. Thank god my limit is 4-5 drinks, unlike when I was in drinking shape.I've lived here, 20 years noe in fact. What things cost in the states is of no consequence to me. I do have friends bring over things that are cheaper in the US though, but I live here, so it is local costs that are of concern to me.
I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st.
Additionally, I have no desire for interaction beyond the act with p4 p gals. Hanging out at a disco or gogo bar hearing the same thing I've heard for ages is just not the slightest bit interesting. It's not like I'm going to get into a discussion about the latest Murakami book I've read with a Thai hooker. When I want to shag, I go shag and when I go out, it's with friends who I can converse with. When mates are in town and want to hit the gogos, I usually last about 30 min and am then bored to tears.
Unfortunately, Bangkok has become quite expensive for p4 p. And truthfully for many other things. Rents, local food, health insurance, and some transport are still very cheap, but western food, alcohol, and women are pricey. Especially when you consider what locals make. It's the former costs that keep me here. Although I'm looking at other places.
Sometimes head could be just as good or even feel better than vaginal sex. I don't get that very often but when I session a girl who does it in a way that just feels toe curling amazing I allow her to take me to fruition.Agree 100%. Head (haven't used that term in a long time. Nostalgia. LOL) to a CIM finish definitely counts in my book. Bonus points for the clean and simple Swallow finish, of course. But good Head in Thailand is not a snap, imo, not even in the BJ Bars. Passable Head is plentiful in many venues, however. I'm only talking about female providers here. I have no experience with it otherwise.
I'm a frequent visitor to Bkk and have mongered via various channels, my preference being escorts, Smooci, Nana, and the occasional MP / oily / soapy / BJ bar. However, I have never tried picking up freelancers at bars / clubs such as Mixx, Levels, Insanity, Spasso, etc. Mostly because I don't drink alcohol and cannot tolerate cigarette smoke.
However, after RTFF, I am very curious about Spasso and have decided to try it on my next visit. My understanding is that Spasso typically has high-class, slightly older to milfy ladies dressed elegantly in cocktail dresses, and tend to be more expensive than the average wg. I also read that the ladies can be a mixed bag of ethnicities, ranging from Thai, to other Southeast Asian, Latina, and Central Asian. I am very much into older women (35-45).
Would love to hear the feedback of the wise men on this forum on what I can expect at Spasso. Specifically:
- How much is the going rate for ST / LT? How many shots do I get? I read somewhere that ST is 5 k? Price is not really an issue for me, as long as I'm getting solid service.
- What is the overall quality of girls, both in terms of looks and service? I realize this is highly subjective, and there will always be duds and gems anywhere. Just looking for a rough sense based on your experience. I'm expecting it to be a crapshoot like Thermae.
- How well will the ladies react to someone of my profile: solo, late 30's but look young, East Asian origin but grew up in West, well-dressed, tall. Given the ladies tend to be older, will they ignore me due to my youthful looks? Do they prefer white guys?
Thanks!
I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st. I usually go to MPs too, but I'm curious about these Viets in soi 4. Where in soi 4 can they be found, and is there a certain time when they are there?
Tool Shedd
12-03-19, 14:03
Arrived in Bangkok around 3 PM, brought from Pattaya by Namm's taxi service. These lady drivers are wonderful, 1,500 baht from Soi 6 Pattaya to Sukhumvit Soi 7. Safe, friendly, funny and enjoyable.
I saw some Cialis for sale on the street, and since I have never tried it before I bought 4 20 MG pills for 200 baht. I have no idea if it is real or not, thought I would give it a try.
After checking in at the iCheck Inn Nana on Soi 7/1, I beelined over to Beer Garden at about 5:00 PM (Monday). My first impression is that the bar is much larger than I envisioned. There must have been 20+ women there, most of them looked a bit long in the tooth, but a good lot of them doable in my book. I made eye contact with a slim lady in a red jumpsuit with spaghetti straps. After I sat and got my beer, she came over. Ice is her name and she had a pretty face and a confident manner. Her English is very good. We chatted, hugged, shared drinks and I invited her to come to my room at 7. She shyly said, "Can I ask for 2,000 baht?" I told her she could ask for it but I would only pay her 1,500. I told her she could earn the rest as a tip. I had a few things to do before I entertained. I gave her some baht so she could stop at the 7-11 and bring beer and water, and get a bite to eat for herself.
At 7 the phone rang and I told the desk to send her up. Ice is a great DFKer, and off came our clothes. Ice has a wonderful, lithe body with I guess a 34 see rack and is about 156 cm tall. She has a little rash on her stomach, but it didn't bother me. She has no children and surprised me when she told me she will be 45 next January.
We touched all the bases, DFK, FIV, DATY, BBBJ was phenomenal. She rode me cowgirl to a shattering orgasm. It was so intense it left me gasping for breath. Ice knew just how to ride me, and it was wonderful.
We talked for a while. She is very well read and intelligent. I was impressed at her knowledge. Round 2 was almost as intense as round 1. My second shot is usually hard earned, and Ice did the work to get us there. She ate her food afterwards and we talked some more. I mentioned I needed to find a laundry for my dirty clothes. She called the lobby and they told her of a foot massage parlor just past Wood Bar that does laundry. We dressed and she took me there and arranged for my laundry to be done and delivered to the hotel next day. The woman earned her tip and then some. I gave her 2,500 and got her line ID. I hope I can fit her in before I leave Sunday night.
Body: 7. 5.
Appearance: 7. 5.
Attitude: 8. 5.
Service: 9. 0.
Total Damage: 2,500 baht and she helped me get my undies washed!
WIR: Yes.
Member #4698
12-03-19, 14:59
Agree 100%. Head (haven't used that term in a long time. Nostalgia. LOL) to a CIM finish definitely counts in my book. Bonus points for the clean and simple Swallow finish, of course. But good Head in Thailand is not a snap, imo, not even in the BJ Bars. Passable Head is plentiful in many venues, however. Head counts, ha ha, anything that turns you on counts in my book. I was just saying that for me, good head (I like the term. Thanks DCups. It's old school) is like an aperitif to get things going. The best head I have had in the last 10 years took place in BKK Soapies like the Lord (gone but not forgotten) & La Belle, a couple of PSE Oilies like Mango, Macau Saunas like Rio, Familia Nobre, and Darling 1 although technically speaking Darling 1 is more a soapy not a sauna, and Jakarta Bordellos like Malio & Alexis. The common trait to all of those superlative experiences was that the girl really knew what she was doing AND she acted like she was into making love to my dick with her mouth. But most of the blow jobs that I have had in Thailand have been ok, but nothing to write home about. A few have been a complete waste of time. Apparently there is a value added component to the massage parlor (PSE & Soapy), sauna, bordello venue that creates the higher probability of receiving really good head. Go Go girls & FL's have had less instruction if any and basically wing it. Some can show a natural enthusiasm, but generally they lack any real technique.
I usually go to MPs too, but I'm curious about these Viets in soi 4. Where in soi 4 can they be found, and is there a certain time when they are there?Most are past the cut through to soi 2. Some will even be in front of Hooters. Seen them as early as 830 pm.
Last winter, I inadvertently selected two Viets on two different occasions from Soi 4. One of them I actually met in Hilary 2.
The first one performed abysmally and the second one I kicked out after she demanded to be paid in advance. The first one I would see from time to time on Soi 4 later in that winter and she always looked at me with a look that said why not chose me again. So they don't not even know when they are terrible.
I did not know the first one was Vietnamese until we started talking on the way to my apartment where she revealed her home country. Before that, she was vague about this and said he had been working in a factory. Turns out, that factory was in some backwater delta in Vietnam. At the time, I almost felt like this session would not go well given my experiences with Viet girls I have encountered outside of Vietnam and my foreboding turned out to be accurate. I think that I was initially duped by the second one too as to her country origins but no matter as I booted her out of the apartment before any baht were exchanged.
The long and short is I would be wary of taking a Viet girl from Soi 4. This particular strain of Viets who hang out on Soi 4 are especially mercantile and non-service oriented.
I usually go to MPs too, but I'm curious about these Viets in soi 4. Where in soi 4 can they be found, and is there a certain time when they are there?
Just so you know, discussions about LB's are not permitted by the ISG Forum. It can be an inflammatory subject to say the least. There are other websites that you can get an answer to your questions so suggest you research these options on your own.
Hi,
I know this is not for everybody, but can anybody help with recommendations for a Bangkok ladyboy escort for a curious 1st timer? I'd like a feminine Preop ladyboy, thin and very pretty. I know this might sound like I'm asking for the impossible, but if there is anyone with recommendations and reviews, I would really appreciate it.
I'm still seeing my regular girls while in Bangkok, but thought I'the take a walk on the wild side and see what it's like.
Thanks in advance.
I've lived here, 20 years noe in fact. What things cost in the states is of no consequence to me. I do have friends bring over things that are cheaper in the US though, but I live here, so it is local costs that are of concern to me.
I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st.
Additionally, I have no desire for interaction beyond the act with p4 p gals. Hanging out at a disco or gogo bar hearing the same thing I've heard for ages is just not the slightest bit interesting. It's not like I'm going to get into a discussion about the latest Murakami book I've read with a Thai hooker. When I want to shag, I go shag and when I go out, it's with friends who I can converse with. When mates are in town and want to hit the gogos, I usually last about 30 min and am then bored to tears.
Unfortunately, Bangkok has become quite expensive for p4 p. And truthfully for many other things. Rents, local food, health insurance, and some transport are still very cheap, but western food, alcohol, and women are pricey. Especially when you consider what locals make. It's the former costs that keep me here. Although I'm looking at other places.Speaking as one who does go to the discos, I can assure you that the hags on Soi 4 are not quite at the level of what you would find in Mixx and Levels. But, too each his own.
I can only compare the costs here to the costs in the US because I split my time between here and there. But, it costs me far less to stay here and have fun for 6 months than it does to do the same things in the US. Last night, I had a fab steak dinner for $13. Probably 50% cheaper plus than in the USA. I'm here for food and fun and at this stage in my life, P4P is not the highest thing on my list to do. My accountant has me on a budget, and quite frankly its so cheap for me here that I have to go out and spend 10 K in a night just to make sure he doesn't start his crap, "well you aren't spending it what do you need it for?" "Well its my money dude, how about that". "Well you pay me a lot of money to do this job blah blah blah and then you make me line item BJs?" And so on.
I am like you in that I just want to dump a load and take off, because I have no interest in "getting to know" some hooker, not does my patience extend to trying to have a conversation about things I am interested in with some poorly educated Thai girl. I have a GF back in the USA for that. But it remains that in terms of infrastructure, people, culture, food and P4P this is the best place in the world for old guys with lots of time on their hands and the money to do whatever they want.
Member #4698
12-04-19, 03:13
it remains that in terms of infrastructure, people, culture, food and P4P this is the best place in the world for old guys with lots of time on their hands and the money to do whatever they want.There you go. Nailed it in that last sentence. For example, in MNL: the restaurants are getting better, but the nightlife, which I enjoy, is just not on par with BKK. And forget about the culture. What culture? Then take CGK; Jakarta girls are smashing, the food is pretty good, but I would go insane if I had to live there. Anyone heading to Mozambique? Send me a postcard.
But I think you are underestimating the cost of fine dining. I hardly ever eat steak in Thailand, so I am no authority on the best Steak Houses in town, but I have had dinner at the El Gaucho Argentinian Restaurant a couple of times and I think their offerings are top notch. (I can't wait for critics to opine on that one 555). Well you can't have a steak dinner at El Gaucho for $13 or even $26. No way. Infact, El Gaucho prices are comparable to top steakhouse prices in the USA. Speaking of which, the stateside cost of a steak dinner for 2 in a 1st class outfit like The Congress Grille, my favorite steakhouse in my home town, will run you $125 for 2 steaks, truffle fries and roasted wild mushrooms. Then add $25 for corkage to bring in your own bottle of quality red wine or pay them $40 for a lesser quality in-house bottle and you are up to at least $175 for 2 including tip. That's La Dolce Vita, baby!
Good thing I happen to like Thai girls and real Thai food.
There you go. Nailed it in that last sentence. For example, in MNL: the restaurants are getting better, but the nightlife, which I enjoy, is just not on par with BKK. And forget about the culture. What culture? Then take CGK; Jakarta girls are smashing, the food is pretty good, but I would go insane if I had to live there. Anyone heading to Mozambique? Send me a postcard.
But I think you are underestimating the cost of fine dining. I hardly ever eat steak in Thailand, so I am no authority on the best Steak Houses in town, but I have had dinner at the El Gaucho Argentinian Restaurant a couple of times and I think their offerings are top notch. (I can't wait for critics to opine on that one 555). Well you can't have a steak dinner at El Gaucho for $13 or even $26. No way. Infact, El Gaucho prices are comparable to top steakhouse prices in the USA. Speaking of which, the stateside cost of a steak dinner for 2 in a 1st class outfit like The Congress Grille, my favorite steakhouse in my home town, will run you $125 for 2 steaks, truffle fries and roasted wild mushrooms. Then add $25 for corkage to bring in your own bottle of quality red wine or pay them $40 for a lesser quality in-house bottle and you are up to at least $175 for 2 including tip. That's La Dolce Vita, baby!
Good thing I happen to like Thai girls and real Thai food.I'm not paying USA prices for non USA steaks and service and I didn't like Guacho, altho the Fogo place is OK with eatigo. I'd rather find those little out of the way joints that serve a decent piece of meat at a fair price. The steak I had last night was comparable to a steak chain in the USA like outback, far cheaper though.
But you are spot on, like who wants to go to Angeles city? Third world.
I hardly ever eat steak in Thailand, so I am no authority on the best Steak Houses in town, but I have had dinner at the El Gaucho Argentinian Restaurant a couple of times and I think their offerings are top notch. (I can't wait for critics to opine on that one 555). Well you can't have a steak dinner at El Gaucho for $13 or even $26. No way.I've eaten there once and thought the food was very good. Expensive, but worth it IMO.
Banana Boi
12-04-19, 05:57
t I have had dinner at the El Gaucho Argentinian Restaurant a couple of times and I think their offerings are top notch. (I can't wait for critics to opine on that one 555). Well you can't have a steak dinner at El Gaucho for $13 or even $26. No way.Awesome. Always been curious about this place. Will definitely go there next time in town.
For those who like a healthy serving of tasty meat for a fraction of the price go to The Smokin' Pug out near Patpong.
Awesome. Always been curious about this place. Will definitely go there next time in town.
For those who like a healthy serving of tasty meat for a fraction of the price go to The Smokin' Pug out near Patpong.Thanks for the tip. I may well try the Smokin Pug, although not sure they have steaks.
I have seen some incredibly expensive steak houses in Bangkok with steaks into the thousands of Bahts. Personally I prefer to eat a Steak for well under 1 K and save the rest for hot girls, but each to their own preference. Whatever turns you on. Go crazy on high fibre veg, is my motto. Ha ha.
Anything in Thailand imported can be rather expensive, and agents for importing get to be very rich with little work. That rankles with me somewhat so I don't like to support rich importers too much. Still there are some imported things we can't live without. I import a lot of Italian coffee in my suitcase ha ha, each major arrival.
I have found that Thai steaks are generally not very good. So not much point to eating them I think, and certainly not at a restaurant.
I also saw the Hong Kong Shark Fin soup restaurant in Asoke if you want to spend a fortune. Ha ha. For millionaires only.
If anyone knows where to get a really nice roast lamb at a reasonable price, I would like to hear. Some sports pubs used to do it on Sunday Roast, but not many any more. Lamb cutlets don't interest me so much. I see the Pug has a smoked lamb sandwich:
https://www.smokinpugbbq.com/menu
Not sure if I am really into ribs. Depends if they put sugar or sweet stuff on the meat, like American style. I prefer not. At home in Thailand I do stew up pork ribs (no sugar involved).
The Brazilian BBQed meats restaurant in Sukhumvit looked ridiculously expensive compered to similar I have been to overseas, e.g. in Verona, Italy, the Brazilian was one of my favourites (better than Italian food).
..................The Brazilian BBQed meats restaurant in Sukhumvit looked ridiculously expensive compered to similar I have been to overseas, e.g. in Verona, Italy, the Brazilian was one of my favourites (better than Italian food).I am in Brazil now and can vouch for Brazilian cuisine. I really enjoy the food here even though it is not high on the world cuisine chart. Asian (especially Thai) food is rated very high internationally but does nothing for me. I really do not get the hype on Thai cuisine. Perhaps I have not lived long enough in the Far East to have gotten acclimatized to the local fare. Give me Western sustenance any day.
I am in Brazil now and can vouch for Brazilian cuisine. I really enjoy the food here even though it is not high on the world cuisine chart. Asian (especially Thai) food is rated very high internationally but does nothing for me. I really do not get the hype on Thai cuisine. Perhaps I have not lived long enough in the Far East to have gotten acclimatized to the local fare. Give me Western sustenance any day.If I had to choose between Asian and Western food, it'd haver to be Asian I'm afraid.
I'm a frequent visitor to Bkk and have mongered via various channels, my preference being escorts, Smooci, Nana, and the occasional MP / oily / soapy / BJ bar. However, I have never tried picking up freelancers at bars / clubs such as Mixx, Levels, Insanity, Spasso, etc. Mostly because I don't drink alcohol and cannot tolerate cigarette smoke.
However, after RTFF, I am very curious about Spasso and have decided to try it on my next visit. My understanding is that Spasso typically has high-class, slightly older to milfy ladies dressed elegantly in cocktail dresses, and tend to be more expensive than the average wg. I also read that the ladies can be a mixed bag of ethnicities, ranging from Thai, to other Southeast Asian, Latina, and Central Asian. I am very much into older women (35-45).
Would love to hear the feedback of the wise men on this forum on what I can expect at Spasso. Specifically:
- How much is the going rate for ST / LT? How many shots do I get? I read somewhere that ST is 5 k? Price is not really an issue for me, as long as I'm getting solid service.
- What is the overall quality of girls, both in terms of looks and service? I realize this is highly subjective, and there will always be duds and gems anywhere. Just looking for a rough sense based on your experience. I'm expecting it to be a crapshoot like Thermae.
- How well will the ladies react to someone of my profile: solo, late 30's but look young, East Asian origin but grew up in West, well-dressed, tall. Given the ladies tend to be older, will they ignore me due to my youthful looks? Do they prefer white guys?
Thanks!It's all about money at Spasso's. If you are willing to throw around 8 K baht or so, they will love you, your profile may even work to your favor. Not sure the women there are all that "old". Plenty of mid to upper 20's.
I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st.
Additionally, I have no desire for interaction beyond the act with p4 p gals. Hanging out at a disco or gogo bar hearing the same thing I've heard for ages is just not the slightest bit interesting. It's not like I'm going to get into a discussion about the latest Murakami book I've read with a Thai hooker. When I want to shag, I go shag and when I go out, it's with friends who I can converse with. When mates are in town and want to hit the gogos, I usually last about 30 min and am then bored to tears.
Soi 4 viets are really vfm. Soi 4 is full of viets.
Agree on no point of having conversations with gogo girls. Half of them can't understand one word you say. I also only go there when some friends are in bkk. Other than that it feels like a waste of money.
It's all about money at Spasso's. If you are willing to throw around 8 K baht or so, they will love you, your profile may even work to your favor. Not sure the women there are all that "old". Plenty of mid to upper 20's.Curious to hear about your experience. I am a old, sleep early monger who doesn't like spending time in clubs and bars.
Would rather just pick someone up for a quickie, which is why I like Thermae. Very convenient too. But I find the women are average, don't really dress up and lack GFE.
I always looking to find better options. I am headed to BKK next month and excited to check out a new place.
It's all about money at Spasso's. If you are willing to throw around 8 K baht or so, they will love you, your profile may even work to your favor. Not sure the women there are all that "old". Plenty of mid to upper 20's.I'm old and fat and do just fine there.
Curious to hear about your experience. I am a old, sleep early monger who doesn't like spending time in clubs and bars.
Would rather just pick someone up for a quickie, which is why I like Thermae. Very convenient too. But I find the women are average, don't really dress up and lack GFE.
I always looking to find better options. I am headed to BKK next month and excited to check out a new place.You won't like spasso's then, it doesn't even start hopping until like 11 pm.
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I have seen some incredibly expensive steak houses in Bangkok with steaks into the thousands of Bahts. Personally I prefer to eat a Steak for well under 1 K and save the rest for hot girls, but each to their own preference. Whatever turns you on. Go crazy on high fibre veg, is my motto. Ha ha.
...I feel the same way. So here is what I do when I want a good quality beef steak "fix" for less than 500 baht at ground zero for the red light district in Bangkok. You might give it a try sometime.
I go to Monsoon on Soi 8, order their steak salad and add a side dish of mashed or au gratin potatoes. I realize the idea of "steak salad" does not sound like it fits the goal here. But it is the exact same good quality Aussie beef they serve for their 750 baht steak dinner (also good), is cooked to your specifications same as that one and the beef is served hot. It is a smaller portion than you get with the full steak dinner but is plenty of meat for me and is sliced, not too thinly, in chunks big enough that I still have to cut smaller pieces to fit in my mouth for a normal sized bite.
Now, the steak chunks and strips are also covered with delicious melted cheese, so you might want to ask them to skip that, don't know. The steak will be served on top of a generous and very good mixed lettuce and small veggie salad.
I simply transfer the steak part onto a side dish along with the mashed or au gratin potatoes and there is my good quality steak, potatoes, salad/veggie, (included) garlic bread and (included) onion rings dinner for under 500 baht.
As I recall the steak salad is about 380 baht and the side of potatoes is about 90 baht or so. No ++ added to the bill in Monsoon.
The possible downsides for some are that Monsoon does not serve baked potatoes, only mashed, au gratin or french fries and they have no steak sauce on hand, only ketchup. So if you are into A1 Sauce or whatever you'll need to smuggle in a bottle of your own (no corkage fee that I know of) or tuck a small zip lock bag of it in your pocket from your stash at home.
As I recall the steak salad is about 380 baht and the side of potatoes is about 90 baht or so. No ++ added to the bill in Monsoon.
The possible downsides for some are that Monsoon does not serve baked potatoes, only mashed, au gratin or french fries and they have no steak sauce on hand, only ketchup. So if you are into A1 Sauce or whatever you'll need to smuggle in a bottle of your own (no corkage fee that I know of) or tuck a small zip lock bag of it in your pocket from your stash at home.Thanks sounds like a good tip. I can compare to what I get in a Sports bar. I don't need the A1 or Ketchup, and actually being a low carbs person, I don't even need the potato. I might do a side of cooked onions or mushrooms, depending what they have.
Menu looks pretty good (ET recommended No. 206 at 340 Baht):
http://www.monsoonbangkok.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/MON_MENU_160129.pdf
I would also be very tempted by lamb and duck dishes, and Onion soup for a starter.
I feel the same way. So here is what I do when I want a good quality beef steak "fix" for less than 500 baht at ground zero for the red light district in Bangkok. You might give it a try sometime.
I try not to eat around the red light district, so my meals are always cheaper and better. But, between Soi 1 and Asoke:
Monsoon isn't bad. Kiwi makes a nice steak sarnie. Margarita storm has fab Tex Mex. Bamboo has wonderful lamb chops and salad. Argo is good Greek / Georgian. Pizza whatever under the BTS is OK. Arnos is good but spendy. The hotel buffets are great when you use eatigo.
Here, for you tourists: hungry nerd at rachethewi has great pork chops. JCafe in phra khanong has fab steaks super cheap. Bad burger in Asoke is excellent. Fogo de Asia in phrom pong is great meat and decent price if you use eatigo. Azzuro in phra khanong is five star Italian, cheap. Spasso is great but will destroy your wallet. So will the Swiss joint. So will bei. The beer garden food is actually OK and OK priced.
Last weekend, after a late dinner I went to cowboy. It was around 11 so girls were aggressive to pull you in, punters were going out with girls they bar fined. Started with 1 beer at spice girls. Quality was quite mix, ranging from 4-8. After that went to shark and quality was much better. But what I hate about shark is, that they put way too many girls on stage. It's hard to see them sometimes. But anyways I always find someone there to buy drinks for. This time it was my usual regular, bought her lady drink, talked and little bit and DFK and then left after giving her a small tip.
Then went into Sahara, and quality was a joke. Couldn't find a single doable girl. The moment I sat though, mamsan sprinted towards me with her menu. And two fat girls sat next to me. I order 1 drink for me, and they started asking their stupid questions. I knew where it was going, so I played along. After one minute, they asked me to buy drinks for them, 280 each. They even did the calculation for me, 560 for both. So nice of them. But there's no way I was going to buy them drinks. I politely said no, with a smile. But they kept blabbering about buying 1 or 2 drinks, which I kind of find amusing. It's been a while for me to encounter this aggressive bar girls. On the stage, 5-6 completely un-enthusiastic girls with dancing (standing). Felt like some prisoners have been forced to stand there. While I was judging the quality of this bar, other two girls trying their hard to arouse me to buy them drink. One was rubbing my chest with her elbow (LOL) and other was rubbing my jeans over my cock. After finishing my drink, I paid the bill and was about to leave, they started screaming "tip! Tip! Spoiler Alert, they didn't get anything. For me to buy drink for some girl, she have to be decent looking and cute (surely, not aggressive). Asking for lady drinks is an art, and most bar girls have lost it. Or they've been spoiled by more generous crowd.
Sahara has always been an expensive bar, but its quality has gone down the hill.
Then I went to Nana. Though I never actually reached there. On the way, I noticed some girls (sitting outside of thermae in line having dinner. It was 12. Now ususally my thumb rule is, girls standing outside thermae are ladyboys. But sometimes I really get confused by looking at 1-2 girls. I'm not alone in that, there were around 10-15 clear ladyboys standing outside and almost, all kind of people (asian, south asian, farangs) were trying to negotiate (I could hear "2000", "no, 1000" haha). I went inside thermae to try my luck. It was relatively empty and girls were also quite few. After taking my drink I straight-away went to a cute girl. Asked her name and couple of generic questions. Asked her if she want to come. She said "2500ST". I said. "yes".
On our way, she told me she works as a receptionist at some hotel. After reaching room, I insisted she take shower because sometime they do a round at the hotel and then come again. She had large boobs (silicon). I didn't like it but they felt good when were doing it. Started with little bit of DFK, she wasn't hesitant but I wasn't feeling it so didn't DFK-ed much. Then she started the BBBJ. And she was good. That's why I go to thermae. Feeling of seeing a hot, young girl sucking your cock up-and-down, and doing DT. Damn she was pro. I didn't asked her to stop, she continues for 15 minutes and kept the eye contact. That was the best PSE I had from thermae.
Then I put rubber on, and she started riding me. Then mis for 5 minutes. Then doggie, and this was the best because her ass was made for doggie. We did it for 5 minutes but I wasn't going to come and I was tired. So just asked her to suck it. She took the rubber and sucked for good 3-5 minutes and boom, I was done. Gave her the money, took her line and tipped her. She was quite good, way better than my conservative expectations from thermae.
As I recall the steak salad is about 380 baht and the side of potatoes is about 90 baht or so. No ++ added to the bill in Monsoon.
If by ++ you mean the check bin total contains an extra (service and/or sales tax or whatever) then Monsoon does in fact add on a % to the menu prices. I can't recall how much this is, but it is the only gripe I would have with this place.
The food is consistently good and the kitchen is well run. Service can be a bit variable though but always friendly. It's always busy, which is a good sign and the bar or outside terrace are good places for relaxing and people watching too.
Can someone please tell me where I can find girls with fake tits in Bangkok? I know a lot of you guys aren't into it, but I'm a big fan. I've read a decent amount of reports and yesterday I went by Doki Doki and Thermae. I saw a lot of OK-ish looking Asian girls, but very few standouts and zero fake titties. I did ask for Nadia at Doki Doki (thank you to the poster who mentioned her) but she was busy upstairs.
How hard is it to spot fake tits in Thailand? 99% of Thais have small or no tits. If you see a stacked girl, chances are they have bolts.
Can someone please tell me where I can find girls with fake tits in Bangkok? I know a lot of you guys aren't into it, but I'm a big fan. I've read a decent amount of reports and yesterday I went by Doki Doki and Thermae. I saw a lot of OK-ish looking Asian girls, but very few standouts and zero fake titties. I did ask for Nadia at Doki Doki (thank you to the poster who mentioned her) but she was busy upstairs.
Arrived in Bangkok two nights ago and staying at Ruamchitt Hotel right above Thermae. I picked Ruamchitt not because of Thermae but because I got a great price and it is one of the few budget hotels in Sukhumvit with a great swimming pool. Picked up two different mid-20's girls outside Thermae on both nights as I did not see anything I like inside Thermae. On the first night around 1:30 AM, the girl asked for 2 k. I countered with 1. 5 k and she readily agreed. On the second night (tonight) at 11 PM, I immediately told the girl 1. 5 k. She countered with 2 k but caved in to 1. 5 k. Both sessions were good but not super good so I did not tip them.
There's at least a hundred girls inside and outside Thermae. Competition is keen. Girls will take 1. 5 k. Let the Koreans overpay. The rest of us stick together.
Funman13.
If by ++ you mean the check bin total contains an extra (service and/or sales tax or whatever) then Monsoon does in fact add on a % to the menu prices. I can't recall how much this is, but it is the only gripe I would have with this place.
The food is consistently good and the kitchen is well run. Service can be a bit variable though but always friendly. It's always busy, which is a good sign and the bar or outside terrace are good places for relaxing and people watching too.I bow to your knowledge on this if you have been there more recently than I have. And I might be thinking of another of the same owner's restaurants on Soi 8, Viva, which seemed not to include a 10% Service Charge on their food for a very long time. Maybe they do now though. Could have sworn Monsoon didn't either, but it has been a few weeks since I've been there. Their Chipotle Chicken Taco Salad is another favorite there.
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12-05-19, 18:44
Arrived in Bangkok two nights ago and staying at Ruamchitt Hotel right above Thermae. I picked Ruamchitt not because of Thermae but because I got a great price and it is one of the few budget hotels in Sukhumvit with a great swimming pool. Picked up two different mid-20's girls outside Thermae on both nights as I did not see anything I like inside Thermae. On the first night around 1:30 AM, the girl asked for 2 k. I countered with 1. 5 k and she readily agreed. On the second night (tonight) at 11 PM, I immediately told the girl 1. 5 k. She countered with 2 k but caved in to 1. 5 k. Both sessions were good but not super good so I did not tip them.
There's at least a hundred girls inside and outside Thermae. Competition is keen. Girls will take 1. 5 k. Let the Koreans overpay. The rest of us stick together.
Funman13.It's great that you are able to find nice looking girl for like 1.5 k baht right in front of Thermae. Whereas most ask for 2.5 k.
Is hotel Ruamchitt girl friendly?
How are rooms in this hotel?
Is it renovated?
Arrived in Bangkok two nights ago and staying at Ruamchitt Hotel right above Thermae. I picked Ruamchitt not because of Thermae but because I got a great price and it is one of the few budget hotels in Sukhumvit with a great swimming pool. Picked up two different mid-20's girls outside Thermae on both nights as I did not see anything I like inside Thermae. On the first night around 1:30 AM, the girl asked for 2 k. I countered with 1. 5 k and she readily agreed. On the second night (tonight) at 11 PM, I immediately told the girl 1. 5 k. She countered with 2 k but caved in to 1. 5 k. Both sessions were good but not super good so I did not tip them.
There's at least a hundred girls inside and outside Thermae. Competition is keen. Girls will take 1. 5 k. Let the Koreans overpay. The rest of us stick together.
Funman13.Just to clarify, are you saying the two girls you picked up directly outside of Thermae would have easily fit in among the better looking girls inside Thermae and were in fact notably better looking to you than any or most of the 100 or so girls you saw inside and that's why you took them instead of anyone inside? And those girls accepted 1,500 baht with little negotiation?
Impressive.
Of course, it has often been acknowledged that almost any girl inside Thermae will go for less if she moves her wares outside to the street. So this is an interesting direct Inside/Outside comparison report.
Do you have any idea why those presumably better looking than most girls were standing outside of Thermae where even they would know their getting price would likely be less instead of staying inside Thermae where they would almost certainly get more (if chosen)? Also, it sounds like they provided nothing better than a basic, no frills, standard, safe and passable service level for that 1,500 baht. Or am I misreading and understating it?
Just to clarify, are you saying the two girls you picked up directly outside of Thermae would have easily fit in among the better looking girls inside Thermae and were in fact notably better looking to you than any or most of the 100 or so girls you saw inside and that's why you took them instead of anyone inside? And those girls accepted 1,500 baht with little negotiation?
Impressive.
Of course, it has often been acknowledged that almost any girl inside Thermae will go for less if she moves her wares outside to the street. So this is an interesting direct Inside/Outside comparison report.
Do you have any idea why those presumably better looking than most girls were standing outside of Thermae where even they would know their getting price would likely be less instead of staying inside Thermae where they would almost certainly get more (if chosen)? Also, it sounds like they provided nothing better than a basic, no frills, standard, safe and passable service level for that 1,500 baht. Or am I misreading and understating it?I think you know the answer already. I always call front desk to verify when it is too good to be true. I have not been wrong yet.
Have you gotten blow jobs from them?Yes, the ones I approached IRL, they were quite good as well. One loves 69, and while one doesn't like DATY does give a mean BBBJ. The other can't get enough DATY.
Half of the Tinder / app girls have been working, and 90% of those have been ladyboys (I always do a video call, you can tell much better that way than from photos). One arrived in the lobby and I had to turn her away as she was a ladyboy.
Of the app girls that I've met for dates, one progressed but not 100% and now we are just friends, we will meet up and grab dinner but no expectations as I enjoy her company.
I'm not sure what the previous poster used, but during this lengthy trip, I've had my best luck with TF, Tinder and Instagram. The TF women I met online before I arrived, so was playing the long game there. One was P4P and two were not, but they always find a way to get something out of you, dinner or drinks or both. Tinder was good to fill an immediate need, and I met two on IG who were part time FLs as they both had jobs, one at Hooters on Soi 4 and the other at a hotel. And one of the TF girls became a part time GF and we had a spectacular time. Unfortunately, she was a Thai living abroad so was only back a month to visit family.
Please tell me the Hooters one was the one that is tall, very slim and dark skinned? Gorgeous girl. Would love to know her IG, haha.
I did start FB, it hasn't gone anywhere yet. IG, not sure how you meet them there? Is there a "people nearby" function or some other method I'm missing out on?
Arrived in Bangkok two nights ago and staying at Ruamchitt Hotel right above Thermae. I picked Ruamchitt not because of Thermae but because I got a great price and it is one of the few budget hotels in Sukhumvit with a great swimming pool. Picked up two different mid-20's girls outside Thermae on both nights as I did not see anything I like inside Thermae. On the first night around 1:30 AM, the girl asked for 2 k. I countered with 1. 5 k and she readily agreed. On the second night (tonight) at 11 PM, I immediately told the girl 1. 5 k. She countered with 2 k but caved in to 1. 5 k. Both sessions were good but not super good so I did not tip them.
There's at least a hundred girls inside and outside Thermae. Competition is keen. Girls will take 1. 5 k. Let the Koreans overpay. The rest of us stick together.
Funman13.Wow dude you saved $15.
Speaking in terms of a snow monger here, who is in thermae once a week, almost every week for 7 months, I'll pay what I deem appropriate for my situation. And sometimes that extra $15 gets me a freebie (well it's never free, but let's not confuse the cost of a dinner and cab fare with a more mercenary transaction).
I think you know the answer already. I always call front desk to verify when it is too good to be true. I have not been wrong yet.If you need to get it verified ya shouldn't be playing.
I bow to your knowledge on this if you have been there more recently than I have. And I might be thinking of another of the same owner's restaurants on Soi 8, Viva, which seemed not to include a 10% Service Charge on their food for a very long time. Maybe they do now though. Could have sworn Monsoon didn't either, but it has been a few weeks since I've been there. Their Chipotle Chicken Taco Salad is another favorite there.Yep, there last weekend. The ++ is a 7% VAT (Sales Tax). I never noticed before but it is mentioned in the menu linked below.
Yep, there last weekend. The ++ is a 7% VAT (Sales Tax). I never noticed before but it is mentioned in the menu linked below.Last time I just passed by and took a glance at their outside menu a few weeks ago, I noticed the actual menu itself was freshly redone as if they had reprinted it, upgraded the quality of the material used to produce the menu and so on. I did not look for a notice about + or ++ aded at the bottom of a page, but it certainly could be there now. I wonder if that added Vat and SC is fairly new.
I got a little tour of the new beer bar complex going up on Soi 7 last night. I was surprised by how many separate bar spaces will be set up in that complex and how far and deep it goes back off the soi. It really is kind of a big deal new girl and drink addition to the area. I'm told there will be a passthru to and from Soi 5.
3-4 bars are already open for business, at least in the evening, some on Soi 7 itself and 1-2 deeper into the complex down the walkway.
Last time I just passed by and took a glance at their outside menu a few weeks ago, I noticed the actual menu itself was freshly redone as if they had reprinted it, upgraded the quality of the material used to produce the menu and so on. I did not look for a notice about + or ++ aded at the bottom of a page, but it certainly could be there now. I wonder if that added Vat and SC is fairly new.No, I don't think so. I remember paying extra in previous visits this year and last too.
As you say there is a newer menu now, but the linked menu below looks like the older one so the added VAT was there before. The website still has the older format menu online.
I got a little tour of the new beer bar complex going up on Soi 7 last night. I was surprised by how many separate bar spaces will be set up in that complex and how far and deep it goes back off the soi. Is this near Beer garden or a replacement? Is there any need for so many spaces? Still this is Bangkok renowned for unneeded developments. I have to guess replaced the area just before Beer garden that used to have many beauty shops, hair, nails, massage etc.
Many bar areas of the past failed and eventually closed down.
Is this near Beer garden or a replacement? Is there any need for so many spaces? Still this is Bangkok renowned for unneeded developments. I have to guess replaced the area just before Beer garden that used to have many beauty shops, hair, nails, massage etc.
Many bar areas of the past failed and eventually closed down.Yes, the space just before Beer Garden. The two largest out front are Rumours Bar and Lucky something or other. Soon to be finished I'd say. There appeared to be a small private party or soft opening in the Lucky one a few evenings ago but may have been the owners 'wetting the bar' even though it's not finished. Rumours is said to be the one from Soi 22 bar complex which will close soon (or later maybe).
No doubt the new area will impact on Beer Garden's business and for the few 'pavement bars' and street food vendors along the Soi. Could be the final death knell or it could attract more customers to the area which has been increasingly grungy for the last while. Maybe the emerging demographic of the area is not ideal any more for new bars. Who knows?
Is this near Beer garden or a replacement? Is there any need for so many spaces? Still this is Bangkok renowned for unneeded developments. I have to guess replaced the area just before Beer garden that used to have many beauty shops, hair, nails, massage etc.
Many bar areas of the past failed and eventually closed down.It is on the same side of Soi 7 leading right down to Beer Garden, which is still there as before. My impression is there will be at least as many bars in that complex as were in Queen's Park
Plaza on Soi 22. Maybe some of those spaces will be restaurants and not beer bars with available girls.
Yes, I have to say the thought crossed my mind where will they get enough acceptable girls to work in these bars. I mean, will all of the strays hanging on to the bitter end in QPP indeed show up to work here after all? Will they be spill over from an over crowded Thermae or those not willing to stand on Soi 4 and Sukhimvit anymore?
Those were the only places that appeared to me to have an over abundance of P4P girls with no place to sit or get inside out of the rain or heat. Otherwise, I have not seen a flood of hookers showing up looking for a spot to set up shop outdoors lately.
Which also brings up the issue of barfines. The spill over, crowded out Thermae girls, Soi 4 and Sukhumvit girls and the Beer Garden girls right next door are not barfine girls. They freelance. But I assume the girls working in the new complex will require a barfine as they did in QPP on Soi 22.
Then again, it would be interesting if as many girls that used to work at the late night cart bars that are no longer being set up nearly as much as before show up at those new complex bars. Similar amount for barfine, ST and such.
I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st.
Do the Viet girls congregate in a particular place on soi 4?
Do the Viet girls congregate in a particular place on soi 4?I would say right just after alley that led to Annies and Rajah, now has Hillary 1?, is a typical spot. These girls usually have light skin and may not look exactly Thai. Opposite the little Soi with ST Hotel Di Place.
However I have met viet girl in another location. One was right outside the Nana Hotel sign wall.
It is on the same side of Soi 7 leading right down to Beer Garden, which is still there as before. My impression is there will be at least as many bars in that complex as were in Queen's Park
Plaza on Soi 22. Maybe some of those spaces will be restaurants and not beer bars with available girls.
Yes, I have to say the thought crossed my mind where will they get enough acceptable girls to work in these bars. I mean, will all of the strays hanging on to the bitter end in QPP indeed show up to work here after all? Will they be spill over from an over crowded Thermae or those not willing to stand on Soi 4 and Sukhimvit anymore?
Those were the only places that appeared to me to have an over abundance of P4P girls with no place to sit or get inside out of the rain or heat. Otherwise, I have not seen a flood of hookers showing up looking for a spot to set up shop outdoors lately.
Which also brings up the issue of barfines. The spill over, crowded out Thermae girls, Soi 4 and Sukhumvit girls and the Beer Garden girls right next door are not barfine girls. They freelance. But I assume the girls working in the new complex will require a barfine as they did in QPP on Soi 22.
Then again, it would be interesting if as many girls that used to work at the late night cart bars that are no longer being set up nearly as much as before show up at those new complex bars. Similar amount for barfine, ST and such.Interesting theories. Means my tour of looking for girls might need to include Soi 7 for a bit. I can look in Beer Garden again too, despite scepticism. Can't recall for sure now if I ever did a Beer garden girl.
I don't think many customers currently not paying a BF, are going to want to start paying one, so girls in new complex may be tempted to move to beer garden, to avoid the BF problem and to get customers more easily. Certainly BF girls are not going to be freelance and probably on a monthly salary.
Strangely I can't even remember now what typical BFs were for the cart bars. I did BF on a cart bar 2 or 3 times. One cart bar girl was good, others fairly ordinary.
Interesting theories. Means my tour of looking for girls might need to include Soi 7 for a bit. I can look in Beer Garden again too, despite scepticism. Can't recall for sure now if I ever did a Beer garden girl.
I don't think many customers currently not paying a BF, are going to want to start paying one, so girls in new complex may be tempted to move to beer garden, to avoid the BF problem and to get customers more easily. Certainly BF girls are not going to be freelance and probably on a monthly salary.
Strangely I can't even remember now what typical BFs were for the cart bars. I did BF on a cart bar 2 or 3 times. One cart bar girl was good, others fairly ordinary.And my guess is instead of going with a sub 500 Baht BF, they'll go with a higher one and be offering gals that are not so nice looking and a bit long in the tooth. It should be an area modeled on Pattaya soi 6, with 400 Baht BF and 1 k ST, but certainly it won't. If it would be, they'd pack in the punters.
Strangely I can't even remember now what typical BFs were for the cart bars. I did BF on a cart bar 2 or 3 times. One cart bar girl was good, others fairly ordinary.The girl who gave me the little tour of the new complex a couple of nights ago was working in a cart bar and one reason she took me into that complex was to say Hi to the mamasan (owner?) of one of the bars in the process of moving from Queen's Park Plaza to that new complex. The girl from the cart bar had worked in her QPP bar before and was asked by the mamasan to work in the new Soi 7 bar when it opens too. The barfine at her cart bar is currently 300 baht. Which is the same as I remember paying for the occasional cutie I took from cart bars back when they were all over the place after 11PM or so, 4-5 years ago. However, I remember being quoted more than that in some cases back then, 400 baht I think.
Tool Shedd
12-07-19, 09:55
Staying at the iCheck Inn Nana on Soi 7/1, spitting distance from Wood Bar and Chrome bar. Walking in and out of this soi is a lot of fun for the first few days but gets old after a while. You have to run the gamut of ladies offering massages, blow jobs and boom boom. Some of them are quite persistent and don't want to take mai karap (Hell No!) for an answer. Overall, I liked staying here, it is very near the Beer Garden and a lot of action. As discussed on the forum, there is a new group of beer bars being built just near the Beer Garden on Soi 7 that may make this a great place to stay. ICheck in is great too, I will review it on the hotel forum.
Went to the world-famous Wood Bar on Soi 7/1 and was led to the back room by Joy. Seriously, as I write this 4 days later, I can't even remember what she looked like. I do remember she was rough with my dick and I had a lot of trouble dropping my load. After a week of mongering, the base of my willie is getting a little tender from the women who pinch the base of my dick while blowing me or ram the condom into my groin with a vengeance. I was seriously disappointed in Woods Bar after everything I had read about it.
Touristy stuff today: Was going to the Jim Thompson house and got picked up by a tuk tuk driver / hustler. He took me to get measured for a suit. Then he took me to Chao Praya for a long tail boat ride and tour of the canals. I don't have to go to Venice now, thank goodness. Then I walked around what Arun and what Pho, seeing the 150-foot-long reclining Buddha. I am mostly in Thailand for the mongering, but I do need cover photos to send home to justify my trip.
Back to the mongering. Upon arriving at Soi 7/1 I allowed myself to be pulled in to one of the massage parlors by Mai and Kiwi. I chose Mai, about 152 cm, young, 45 kilos, and had pretty eyes, about 30 years old. She proceeded to wreck my dick while pinching the base so hard I couldn't keep an erection. It was almost as big of boner-killer as seeing a picture of Hillary Clinton! After trying to stop her from inflicting the pain, I called her off and got Kiwi to do the job. Kiwi is about 158 cm, also about 30 and what you may call full-figured, voluptuous, curvy, etc. She took matters in hand and finished the deed in a short time. When I was leaving, Mai asked me why I rejected her. I took her thumb and pinched the base of it so hard it should have hurt and told her that was what she was doing to Mr. Happy. It hurts! Women complain about men hurting their sensitive areas, can't they understand that Herman the One-Eyed German wants a soft touch? I think she got the message, but I don't know if the lesson will stick. Paid her 200 baht to quit, 800 to Kiwi to do the job right.
Ah the problems of mongering.
These blow job bars are nowhere as good as the Soi 6 Pattaya experiences I had last week. See Pattaya board for details.
Tool Shedd.
Tool Shedd
12-07-19, 09:57
Trip to Kanchanaburi to see the River Kwai historical area. Very interesting, again I had Namm's Taxi service take me there. I highly recommend them. 10-hour trip with the traffic and spending about 4 hours at the site.
In the evening I contacted Smooci and ordered up Bobby. I have been drooling over her for months, just waiting for a chance to partake. Pictures are a combination of smoking hot and Girl Next Door. Well, I guess Photoshop has it's uses. She was nowhere near that cute and not very accommodating. Non-members have to book for two hours. After my first pop at the 25-minute mark, I knew I didn't have another shot in me. I told her "Khap koon caaa" (thanks) and sent her on her way. Smooci worked seamlessly, they were great to deal with, and they used emails and texts to keep me well informed.
Tool Shedd.
Tool Shedd
12-07-19, 10:04
Slept late, had a late check-out from iCheck Inn. Street driver / hustler hauled me over to Nana hotel, which wasn't far, but I didn't want to lug my bags up 36 stairs to cross Sukhumvit. Getting around downtown is hard, especially if you are in a taxi, due to the traffic.
Nana hotel made a bad impression on me at first, got worse the next day. Now I am OK with it. See the Hotel board for details, if you care.
Touristy stuff: Got a driver from Nana Hotel named Wittaya, I will keep his number and use him for inner city trips next time I am in Bangkok. Made it to the Jim Thompson house, it was beautiful and worth the visit.
Across Soi 4 from Nana hotel is the world-famous Nana Plaza. On the left corner, as you enter, is Big Dog bar. I found it to be a great place to sit and watch Circus Nana, the FL working in front of Nana hotel and just life in general. The energy of this place (Soi 4 and the Nana parking lot) is amazing! Drinks are cheap and I got to know the girls in there well. Oiy, 45 and chubby, not attractive to me at first, glommed on to me and I bought her drinks. She joked the first day that we were married, next day we were divorced, next day we are back together. I have started to like her and will probably BF her Sunday morning, if I have any energy left.
I was very tired and went to sleep at 8 PM, woke at 12:40 and decided to do Nana Plaza. I went in 3 bars there, Billboard, Butterflies and Rainbow, if I remember right. The music was so damn loud I couldn't communicate with the servers, mamasans or girls. In one of the bars two girls, a server and a mamasan were gathered around me and asked me a question I had no way to hear. I must have nodded, because suddenly drinks for everyone along with tequila rose shots appeared. Cost me 840 baht to get out of there. I decided go-go bars, car alarm music and my bad hearing do not a fun or cheap night make.
I wandered south on Soi 4 until I came to Hillary II, worked my way to the back to use the potty. It was very crowded, with a pretty good live band. On my way out I was waylaid by a cute, 152 cm, 50 kilo, 28 year old With jaw length hair. Kok honeyed up to me and made sure I knew she was the one for me. We had about 4 drinks each, she was hugging and rubbing me. Her manner was pure GFE, which I just can't resist. I took her back to Nana hotel, and her service let me down. Poor BBBJ, lips barely making contact with the tool, rough with my wiener, and cowgirl was disappointing. I faked an orgasm to get her to stop, then sent her on her way. Disappointing. Damage: 2,000 baht, no bar fine. She wanted to know why I didn't keep her TLN, I lied and told her I was too tired. Do you go to hell for lying to a working girl? Or is it forgiven because they won't take no for an answer? LOL.
Tool Shedd.
Tool Shedd
12-07-19, 10:12
Asked Wittiya to take me to a very large gem and craft shop I found Tuesday near the Jim Thompson house. He misunderstood and took me to a very large gem and jewelry emporium out near Dusit. You can watch the craftsmen making jewelry and spend a lot of money on it in the next ritzy room. I got Wittiya to take me to the place I really wanted and bought carved elephants and elephant charm bracelets for everyone back home. Sometimes you have to be insistent on where you want to go, these drivers either think they know what you want better than you do, or they are getting kick-backs to take you to certain places. Wittiya wasn't the worst, but he had his moments.
Wittiya wants to take me to a sex show in Pat Pong. He says the women shoot darts from their nether regions to pop balloons, as well as launch ping pong balls and smoke cigarettes from their other set of lips. He claims they do vaginal sword swallowing as well. I am going to beg off on this one, I will spend my time doing the nasty or just enjoying the ambiance of Bangkok instead of seeing sexual oddities and being stuck in traffic. I have had a lot of offers from drivers to provide me women, take me to special clubs, etc. One driver had a portable DVD player on the dash in front of me to show me fully naked nasty dancing at a club he was touting. Wittiya said there is a very good soapy massage on Soi 2, not far from Nana hotel. I will get the name of it from him later if anyone on here is interested. I had a soapy in Pattaya and have already crossed that off my bucket list. I told Wittiya I wanted to go to Thermae tonight.
I spent most of the afternoon and evening at Big Dog. Hanah, 45, slim and nice, spent a lot of time with me. I decided I would BF her, but not tonight. I wanted to check out Thermae.
Wittiya didn't want to take me to Thermae because he had called twice, and they didn't answer. He thought they might be closed. I insisted and arrived about 9 PM. Mein Gott! What a place! It is in the basement of the Raumchitt Plaza hotel, about 20 X 30 meters. There is a front entrance off Sukhumvit and a back entrance off Soi 15. There was a little man yelling at me to buy a drink before I circulated. Soda was 80 baht, but they wouldn't give me change for my 100. There must have been 200+ women there and a lot of men, about 65/35 W-M ratio. There was a ring of ladies around the wall facing in, and an inner ring of ladies facing out. The men shuffled along and the women either avoided eye contact or smiled and waved the men over. This is where it got interesting for me, since I am a man of large caliber (have a very large belly). Many of the women couldn't believe my size and couldn't take their eyes off me but were afraid to make eye contact! A good number didn't care and smiled at me, a few waved me over. I talked to one SWT, Apple, about 30,154 cm, slim, straw colored blond hair, with nice frontal lobes, and she was very insistent I take her, almost begged me. She quoted me 3,000ST. I shuffled around the room again and decided to leave. I don't know why I didn't take Apple; in hindsight I should have. I had decided to BF Hanah, which could have waited for another night.
So I went back to Big Dog and BF'the Hanah. 800 baht BF, when asked how much she said it was up to me. That is always my cue to say 50 baht! If they object, I go up to 55. LOL. Hanah did me good, even though she was a little long in the tooth, and after the first round we talked for 3 hours, slept a few and had an early morning nookie session. She left around 6, I was exhausted. I gave her 3,000 for LT.
Tool Shedd.
Banana Boi
12-07-19, 11:07
It's obvious this Wittiya guy wanted to take you to places where he gets a kick back. Took you to the wrong jewelry store, wanted to take you to a specific soapie, wanted to take you to the ping pong show bars in Patpong not mentioning to you there are many regular gogo bars in Patpong. Also, not wanting to take you to Thermae because knowing Thermae there is no way and no need for them to provide incentives to taxi / tuk tuk drivers to bring customers.
Asked Wittiya to take me to a very large gem and craft shop I found Tuesday near the Jim Thompson house. He misunderstood and took me to a very large gem and jewelry emporium out near Dusit. You can watch the craftsmen making jewelry and spend a lot of money on it in the next ritzy room. I got Wittiya to take me to the place I really wanted and bought carved elephants and elephant charm bracelets for everyone back home. Sometimes you have to be insistent on where you want to go, these drivers either think they know what you want better than you do, or they are getting kick-backs to take you to certain places. Wittiya wasn't the worst, but he had his moments.Haha very famous scam from tuk tuk drivers, hoping you didn't spent too much money on those gems.
Wittiya wants to take me to a sex show in Pat Pong. He says the women shoot darts from their nether regions to pop balloons, as well as launch ping pong balls and smoke cigarettes from their other set of lips. He claims they do vaginal sword swallowing as well. I am going to beg off on this one, I will spend my time doing the nasty or just enjoying the ambiance of Bangkok instead of seeing sexual oddities and being stuck in traffic.Pat pong is known for it's weird ping pong shows in shady alleys, where there's a good chance you will be ripped by the bill. You can see the ping pong show at cowboy Suzie wong bar. Vibe is much better, beers amd lady drinks are fare price 220 b. Though they don't do it sword stuff for sure.
What a place! It is in the basement of the Raumchitt Plaza hotel, about 20 X 30 meters. There is a front entrance off Sukhumvit and a back entrance off Soi 15. There was a little man yelling at me to buy a drink before I circulated. Soda was 80 baht, but they wouldn't give me change for my 100. There must have been 200+ women there and a lot of men, about 65/35 W-M ratio. Thermae is an unusual place. I like it because I can get some really good looking girls from here and I hate it because of the too-crowdy vibe. Sometimes it's even hard to move here.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-07-19, 17:31
Snip. Wittiya said there is a very good soapy massage on Soi 2, not far from Nana hotel. I will get the name of it from him later if anyone on here is interested. Snip.The only soapy massage parlor in that area that I know of was Annie's, which closed about a year ago. Have no idea what scam he was trying to pull by wanting to take you there unless it was to act surprised it was closed and then take you to Cupidy or one of the other soapies that give 500 baht kickbacks to taxi drives who bring in chumps to get fleeced. You may want to dump Wittiya. He is a scammer.
Snip. So I went back to Big Dog and BF'the Hanah. 800 baht BF, when asked how much she said it was up to me. That is always my cue to say 50 baht! If they object, I go up to 55. LOL. Hanah did me good, even though she was a little long in the tooth, and after the first round we talked for 3 hours, slept a few and had an early morning nookie session. She left around 6, I was exhausted. I gave her 3,000 for LT. Tool Shedd.800 baht bar fine from Big Dog? That's go-go bar fine level. And for a 45 year old woman who even he said was a "little long in the tooth"? Did he get hosed or is that amount standard for that kind of place?
I see some mention of BJ bars, but I don't see any names. I had a fantastic experience at a BJ bar in Pattaya, the only BJ bar I've ever been to, so I'd like to give one a try in BK. Any suggestions in the Cowboy / Nana area?
Also, I'll be in BK with two people from work and I don't want to take a girl back to my room lest I become the subject of rumors at my job. Do the girls all know short term hotels in the area? I went to cowboy in the past and the girls had a room nearby. Is there something like that near Nana and Thermae?
I see some mention of BJ bars, but I don't see any names. I had a fantastic experience at a BJ bar in Pattaya, the only BJ bar I've ever been to, so I'd like to give one a try in BK. Any suggestions in the Cowboy / Nana area?
Also, I'll be in BK with two people from work and I don't want to take a girl back to my room lest I become the subject of rumors at my job. Do the girls all know short term hotels in the area? I went to cowboy in the past and the girls had a room nearby. Is there something like that near Nana and Thermae?Do a search in this thread for BJ bars. There are a few between Nana and Son 11.
There is a short term hotel inside Nana Plaza. All the go go girls know about obviously. I am guessing many SW / freelancers also know where the ST motels are. I wouldn't worry about it; of course if do a search here you might find more info on specific hotels.
You can also go to Eden, which a brothel on Soi 7/1; it specializes in threesomes and anal (the second is optional). It's a safe environment, very well set up, and the girls are real pros. Which is not to say it smells and looks like a brothel.
I see some mention of BJ bars, but I don't see any names. I had a fantastic experience at a BJ bar in Pattaya, the only BJ bar I've ever been to, so I'd like to give one a try in BK. Any suggestions in the Cowboy / Nana area? Jeez, for a guy who says he's in education, you are a lame and lazy researcher. Try google.
https://afarangabroad.com/bangkok-blowjob-bars/
A short list might be:
Wood Bar on Soi 7/1.
LoliTTa $ soi 8.
Kasalong on soi 6 on cut-through to soi 8 right where LoliTTa $ is located.
Lolipop bar soi 10.
Duangporn's Haven / formerly Som's Haven, at Asok-Sukhumvit Intersection.
Wittiya wants to take me to a sex show in Pat Pong. He says the women shoot darts from their nether regions to pop balloons, as well as launch ping pong balls and smoke cigarettes from their other set of lips. He claims they do vaginal sword swallowing as well. I am going to beg off on this one, I will spend my time doing the nasty or just enjoying the ambiance of Bangkok instead of seeing sexual oddities and being stuck in traffic. I have had a lot of offers from drivers to provide me women, take me to special clubs, etc. One driver had a portable DVD player on the dash in front of me to show me fully naked nasty dancing at a club he was touting. Wittiya said there is a very good soapy massage on Soi 2, not far from Nana hotel. I will get the name of it from him later if anyone on here is interested. I had a soapy in Pattaya and have already crossed that off my bucket list. .Dude with the upmost respect, if your reports are true, they indicate that you have violated almost every precept of mongering set forth in this board over and over again. Who, in this day and age, falls for taxi cab scams?
Let me help you for your next trip, as I was also there at Thermae Friday night at 9 and I stayed till about 11. First of all sodas are 70 baht and 90 baht. They always give change. You merely need wait for it. The little guy wasn't yelling at you to buy a drink, that's what they do, they stand there and tell everybody to buy a drink. Now I do recall a large farang there but I can assure you he wasn't being waved at. Because the girls don't usually wave. In fact, I've been in term a probably 30 times plus this year and I have never seen a girl wave. The only blondes in the place on Friday night that I saw was the ugly old Mamasan with the troll face and the hot but sour attitude chick from the south of Thailand who stands in the same place everyday who I have seen there innumerable times. She always ask for 3000. I sincerely doubt she was begging you to take her but why don't you tell me where she was standing and we can see if we're talking about the same young lady. If we are, and you didn't take her, you didn't miss much. But now that I think about it, there was a second blond in there Friday night, and the blond I am referring to had already been taken. The second blonde is a semi-regular and I do recall her talking to some large guy wearing like lime green, socks and sandals. But she's nowhere close to 30 in fact, neither of these two blonde girls are.
Tool Shedd
12-08-19, 02:41
800 baht bar fine from Big Dog? That's go-go bar fine level. And for a 45 year old woman who even he said was a "little long in the tooth"? Did he get hosed or is that amount standard for that kind of place?Don't know if I got hosed, but I got a great lay out of the deal. I really enjoyed Hanah's company and service.
I unfortunately booked a crap hotel on soi 7 (soi go pee pee) but in doing so saw that a mini complex of of about 15 new girly bars being constructed right now. Its right off Sukumvit and before the beer garden. Only one open as of yesterday staffed by 3 grandmas but hopefully when this mini complex is complete they get some fresh talent. In the days of tear anything down remotely good to build a shit condo this could be some rare good news. And on the far side of the street are multiple pop up bar stands with some street food, late career Thai hos and a few hot Africans to entertain you while watching the paint dry on the the new girly bars.
I had a good laugh when some white guy in his 20's walked up to Lolitas and tried to act like he didn't know what happened inside. When he saw me walking by, he asked the girls "can I get a beer in here"? LOL.
I do recall her talking to some large guy wearing like lime green, socks and sandals. Some supersize farang in socks and sandals trying to pick up girls in Thermae having just been taken on the scam circuit by a tuktuk driver is a funny image.
I would say right just after alley that led to Annies and Rajah, now has Hillary 1?, is a typical spot. These girls usually have light skin and may not look exactly Thai. Opposite the little Soi with ST Hotel Di Place.
However I have met viet girl in another location. One was right outside the Nana Hotel sign wall.Some reports on this thread suggest the Viet girls on soi 4 are mercenary and not service minded. Are they that much better looking than the Thais that they're worth the higher price and risk of poor service?
Tool Shedd
12-08-19, 10:59
Dude with the upmost respect, if your reports are true, they indicate that you have violated almost every precept of mongering set forth in this board over and over again. Who, in this day and age, falls for taxi cab scams?
Let me help you for your next trip, as I was also there at Thermae Friday night at 9 and I stayed till about 11. First of all sodas are 70 baht and 90 baht. They always give change. You merely need wait for it. The little guy wasn't yelling at you to buy a drink, that's what they do, they stand there and tell everybody to buy a drink. Now I do recall a large farang there but I can assure you he wasn't being waved at. Because the girls don't usually wave. In fact, I've been in term a probably 30 times plus this year and I have never seen a girl wave. The only blondes in the place on Friday night that I saw was the ugly old Mamasan with the troll face and the hot but sour attitude chick from the south of Thailand who stands in the same place everyday who I have seen there innumerable times. She always ask for 3000. I sincerely doubt she was begging you to take her but why don't you tell me where she was standing and we can see if we're talking about the same young lady. If we are, and you didn't take her, you didn't miss much. But now that I think about it, there was a second blond in there Friday night, and the blond I am referring to had already been taken. The second blonde is a semi-regular and I do recall her talking to some large guy wearing like lime green, socks and sandals. But she's nowhere close to 30 in fact, neither of these two blonde girls are.You have most of your facts wrong, and you are extremely negative. I have reported truthfully to give back to the board. No, I wasn't in lime green wearing socks and sandals. Yes, some of the girls gave me come hither hand movements. Yes, there was a pretty 30 something slim blond with big bazoobies that was adamant about me taking her home. I have no reason to make this shit up. If you and the other nattering nabobs of negativity want to attack an open and honest report, give it hell. I probably just won't share anymore. Is that your goal? And your comments about the tuk tuk scram and driver totally make it look like you didn't even read what I posted. Yes, the tuk tuk drivers tried to scam me. The car driver did not. He misunderstood me and took me where I wanted to go. I didn't just fall off the tater truck. I have travelled in many third world countries and have learned the hard way when I am being hustled and when I am not. I got hustled some on this trip. A lot of what you are saying I got duped on, well, whatever.
If you want open and honest sharing of information and experiences on this board, you need to rethink your negative reaction to what you see. If not, keep up the trend. Pretty soon no one will want to risk the wrath of Nyezov and the board will be poorer for that.
I suggest you either read my posts closer or examine your tendency to look for negative issues to make yourself look better than others.
Respectfully, Tool Shedd.
Some reports on this thread suggest the Viet girls on soi 4 are mercenary and not service minded. Are they that much better looking than the Thais that they're worth the higher price and risk of poor service?In my opinion some of them put the Thais to shame looks wide. Not all of course.
Tool Shedd
12-08-19, 11:16
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.
Yes. The girls inside Thermae even go upstairs to use the hotel toilet. The rooms are adequate but not fancy. Clean room, quite spacious, good bed (not too hard), good AC, shower, WiFi, hot water kettle. But no fridge, no carpet. Difference between standard room and superior room: standard room don't have windows, superior rooms' windows look out to ugly buildings.
BTW, all hotels in the area are girl-friendly except to 5-star Hyatt, Sheraton, Westin, etc.
It's great that you are able to find nice looking girl for like 1.5 k baht right in front of Thermae. Whereas most ask for 2.5 k.
Is hotel Ruamchitt girl friendly?
How are rooms in this hotel?
Is it renovated?
Tooms,
Bear in mind that both times it was almost 2 AM on a week night. The girls were hanging outside Thermae so they could have been inside earlier or on other nights. I don't know and didn't ask. The service I got was typical of Thermae girls: they do what is expected of them, nothing more and no or little GFE. This may change if you get them again. I had that experience a few years ago from a Thermae girl who worked in an office during the day for peanuts' pay. I was attracted to her and after the second time, I would just text her and she came straight to my room from work. We even went out to dinner. She stayed with me until morning when she returned to work. I paid her 3 k for LT. She was even able to have orgasms.
Another thing, as I said, it was late, almost closing time in Thermae. Maybe the hotter girls were already taken.
Just to clarify, are you saying the two girls you picked up directly outside of Thermae would have easily fit in among the better looking girls inside Thermae and were in fact notably better looking to you than any or most of the 100 or so girls you saw inside and that's why you took them instead of anyone inside? And those girls accepted 1,500 baht with little negotiation?
Impressive.
Of course, it has often been acknowledged that almost any girl inside Thermae will go for less if she moves her wares outside to the street. So this is an interesting direct Inside/Outside comparison report.
Do you have any idea why those presumably better looking than most girls were standing outside of Thermae where even they would know their getting price would likely be less instead of staying inside Thermae where they would almost certainly get more (if chosen)? Also, it sounds like they provided nothing better than a basic, no frills, standard, safe and passable service level for that 1,500 baht. Or am I misreading and understating it?
Sorry I am late responding to all your comments to my post. I was too busy to check ISG.
Please do not get me wrong. I was not bragging. I have been paying 2 k for Thermae girls for years. I was just surprised to get away with 1. 5 k. Perhaps "business" was slow for the girls? If the girls didn't bulge, I would have willingly paid 2 k. I am just reporting what I experienced. Isn't what ISG is about?
Wow dude you saved $15.
Speaking in terms of a snow monger here, who is in thermae once a week, almost every week for 7 months, I'll pay what I deem appropriate for my situation. And sometimes that extra $15 gets me a freebie (well it's never free, but let's not confuse the cost of a dinner and cab fare with a more mercenary transaction).
Franciscass
12-08-19, 11:56
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.Don't let them put you off Toodl. If you feel like posting post. T. We all go through push back from self absorbed know alls, you just have to let it flow on by. There is an originality about your experiences which suggest a refreshing open mindedness which personally I find more interesting than the repetitive navel gazing that comprises most what you will find on the Thailand thread. So what happened on the last two days.
Tool Shedd,
Don't let one negative person upset you. Just know that there are many of us who silently read and appreciate your posts and the info you provided. That's the purpose of this board, providing and / or receiving info on our hobby. Personal opinions and criticisms are secondary.
Funman13.
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.
Some reports on this thread suggest the Viet girls on soi 4 are mercenary and not service minded. Are they that much better looking than the Thais that they're worth the higher price and risk of poor service?Any girls on Soi 4 can be mercenary and not service minded and looking to be done in 30 minutes or less. I have not tried the Viets, however one asked me if I wanted ST or LT straight off, which a was a surprise. She asked 2. 5 K for ST. I was attracted to that one with glasses, not knowing she was not Thai at first, but she had a slightly goofy cute look. Some other whiter skinned girls were causing me to suspect Viet before approaching them, but not necessarily my spec for face shape.
Who has better looks would be very personal opinion based. I would say that the Viet girls were way in front for average looks, in that there were no dogs present, that I was aware of anyway. The over sophisticated doll look doesn't always work for me. I prefer a more exotic type of look. Just me. Skinny face with pointy jaw, big eyes, small nose and big lips usually works for me, regardless of where they come from.
My experience is Soi 4 has some real duds and also some gems for me (but not many), given the chemistry is working alright. I don't like business like girls at all. I like girls who lose control. I did manage some fab GFEs, with girls before, but no longer working there. Tall Naam got a sponsor real quick even she had only bumps for tits. However she could sure kiss great and pussy was exquisite. Tits ain't everything (I take bigger tits other times). I would have still been repeating her. I only managed a few times, but she was perfect every time. I paid her a bonus for the super service, which helped make her always keen to go with me.
My success rate on Soi 4 has been much better than experiences with Thermae girls. Don't know if that is just a fluke or bad luck at the Themae, however I am definitely inclined to prefer Soi 4 girls, in the somewhat pretty bracket (really very few and none at times. Try early evening Friday or Saturday).
I don't think there are many girls on Soi 4 with no baby! That might be the deciding factor for some. Disaster bodies do exist on that Soi too.
You have most of your facts wrong, and you are extremely negative. I have reported truthfully to give back to the board. No, I wasn't in lime green wearing socks and sandals. Yes, some of the girls gave me come hither hand movements. Yes, there was a pretty 30 something slim blond with big bazoobies that was adamant about me taking her home. I have no reason to make this shit up. If you and the other nattering nabobs of negativity want to attack an open and honest report, give it hell. I probably just won't share anymore. Is that your goal? And your comments about the tuk tuk scram and driver totally make it look like you didn't even read what I posted. Yes, the tuk tuk drivers tried to scam me. The car driver did not. He misunderstood me and took me where I wanted to go. I didn't just fall off the tater truck. I have travelled in many third world countries and have learned the hard way when I am being hustled and when I am not. I got hustled some on this trip. A lot of what you are saying I got duped on, well, whatever.
TS,
We all know about Nyezhov, his vast superiority complex, his shit dumping and supercilious attitudes, specializing in put-downs, and that his experience is the only one possible (sorry slight sarcasm there). Ha ha. No need to take a great deal of notice. Anyone can get hustled or duped. We use very long experience to reduce it. I don't take Tuk Tuks any more, as example, but have resorted to one in a traffic jam long ago now. I don't talk to taxi drivers or touts that approach me at all.
He got pissed off when I said I was sceptical about Loli-tas having beauties outside since I have been past a few times and yet to see any, yet he is the big shit dumper on reports of others.
Wasn't long since I had the Rainbow experience with wasting time and drinks and BF on a girl that wanted to get my pants off and suck me, because she would not take her pants off. She a blackened bloody pad in the knickers. Ha ha. Mamasan tried to get me to pay in advance, and maybe many guys would have fallen for it. I was pissed off to paid for her drinks, her food, her BF, and took her a fair taxi ride to my apartment past Ekkamai. In the end I quickly returned to Soi 4 and found an excellent replacement girl on the street who was great. "Shit happens" experiences are just real fine and we can all learn something most likely. We have all had a shit happens experience. We learn to be suspicious and not trust others too quickly, yet some Thai hookers prove to very trustworthy once we know them.
Some guys don't have the guts to post about their shit happens experiences. It shows a lack of self confidence, that those are all secret. Shit happens experiences are usually more believable than the posts of superman exaggerating often.
Your post mentioned a Soapy on Soi 2. Since Annies closed there should not be one, unless Soi 2 of some other road, or would he have taken you to Rajah Hotel, not sure. Maybe you actually quoted the wrong Soi Number here, however best not to let taxi drivers take you anywhere of their choosing. They are just trying to get a significant commission. They can have a lot of total bullshit stories to tell too, like the restaurant you want to go to is closed, but he can suggest ..... Sure I have been taken by taxi drivers to places I did not intend, in the past. When I first came here, there was no ISG to advise us too. Mostly we all learn from non ideal experiences. I recent years I have even been shocked that my Thai GF was willing to talk to bullshit taxi drivers that approached her, where I would not answer them at all (so rude I am).
There is a language barrier, so misunderstandings with taxi drivers are all too common. We don't know the correct Thai pronunciations. My first funny one like that was when I had very little Thai at all, and I asked to go to the Indra Regent Hotel. I ended up at the Regent Hotel, something totally different. I later learned the Hotel I wanted had to be called "In-trah" (no word Regent at all) to be intelligible to the taxi driver. English name spellings can be just silly. Try to get them to follow "Villa Market", ha ha. "Win-lah" or "Wee-lah' works much better (Thai has no letter V).
Banana Boi
12-08-19, 13:37
Tool, go to 'Edit ignore List' in your Settings and block the members who annoy you.
Member #4698
12-08-19, 13:43
BTW, all hotels in the area are girl-friendly except to 5-star Hyatt, Sheraton, Westin, etc.
The Hyatt, Sheraton, Grande Center Point T21, & Weston are all girl friendly / guest friendly to the max ie there is no joiner fee and girls are not ID carded unless you, the registered guest, want them to be. The Weston set up is a bit unusual. The taxi concierge desk is on the ground level as you enter the hotel, but an elevator takes you to the 7th floor lobby, restaurant, and front desk. A guest must then walk thru the lobby area to a 2nd row of elevators to gain access to the hotel rooms. I like the Weston for a variety of reasons including its ample size rooms and the fact that they upgrade my reservation everytime I stay there, but due to the particular set up ie the 7th floor lobby, it is not recommended for those who worry about the "WALK OF SHAME". My only walk of shame is taking a fugly back to my room or going back to my room empty handed without a girl at 3am. 555.
The Pattaya Hilton & the Yangon Wyndham Grand have similar entrances like the Weston with lobbies on a higher floor than the hotel entrance and 2 stage elevator systems. It is a little strange, but who cares?
Member #4698
12-08-19, 14:43
TS, keep posting. A little criticism or commentary is to be expected. We have all learned to grow crocodile skins here on the ISG.
Tool Shedd
12-08-19, 15:11
Tool Shedd,
Don't let one negative person upset you. Just know that there are many of us who silently read and appreciate your posts and the info you provided. That's the purpose of this board, providing and / or receiving info on our hobby. Personal opinions and criticisms are secondary.
Funman13.I am packing to leave Bangkok now, so I don't have time to post. I work in the Middle East, so it may be a few weeks before I can post my final Bangkok reports. I dislike being called a liar and idiot, but I hope my candid reports do some good. I didn't have much info on how the working girls react to someone of my size, hence I posted a candid review hoping to encourage other old, bald, white fat men to get out there and see where life takes them.
The long-timers here need to realize that the board gets stale and useless when they slam someone that is trying to give back. I have limited opportunities to monger and have lived vicariously through the ISG for a long time. Just kinda don't like the turn it took.
Tool Shedd.
Tool Shedd
12-08-19, 15:12
TS, keep posting. A little criticism or commentary is to be expected. We have all learned to grow crocodile skins here on the ISG.My biggest opportunity for improvement is to grow some of that there crocodile skin.
Thanks for your comment.
Tool Shedd.
I had invited a girl at King Castle I yesterday. Luckily I had asked about short time before paying her a drink because ST was "Cannot".
Today King Castle I again. Plied the mamasan's green laser on a girl on stage. Girl in Cannot palaver with mamasan. Hab customer, so the mamasan's translation.
I had taken 2 girls out from Pink Panther's before so I fell back on Pink Panther. Not many girls tonight that I fancied, only one in fact. I pointed to her. Cannot. Hab cust...
Outside Pink Panther I settled for a MILF. 600 BF + 1500. Inside the hotel room at Tarntawan she turned out a scammer.
What's going on here folks? Is it possible to get laid in this town? How can this call itself a mongering destination?
Tool, go to 'Edit ignore List' in your Settings and block the members who annoy you.The ignore list is a wonderful thing, the board loads faster when you don't have to read some of the commentary.
But hey, here is a "candid" report for this evening, hopefully of particular use to those who don't require all the fantasy stuff inserted.
Dull. Not a lot out because I was out early. All BJ bars were basically Hags, some were a hag minus. Two very suspiciously looking ones near Hooters. Three deaf girls near nana in pigtails and shorts with a couple of fattie friends. Thee are pumps blocking the sidewalk near Hooters, watch the traffic. There are elephants in Burkhas down the street near the Tatoo joint. No Africans anywhere, Saturday night by the way the cops were rousting, several black dudes at the 7-11 down from Thermae. The beer bars near BeerGarden were being nicely hammered and sawed as workman are on it like no tomorrow. Beer Garden was MILF central, as was the newer joint near the corner of Soi 8. If you are into Milfs, they weren't bad looking, some minor hagness.
Of particular note: I saw three "Russian" (Uzbek) girls that are familiar to me from Mixx. They were in off duty garb. I spied them in the Soi 5 area going somewhere, maybe food or shopping or whatever. They could be living in the area too, although I know that the Uzbek gal I was hammering a few months ago stayed in Pratunam.
Saturday night at like 9:30 a wave of Chinese came into Thermae, for a while, it was like a Shanghai tourist market. There were some new pretty girls, some usual resident pretty girls and even a few maxi hags, but its hard to do business when Chinese dudes are running everywhere, so I just blew out of there and got one off my contact list.
I don't think there are many girls on Soi 4 with no baby! That might be the deciding factor for some. Disaster bodies do exist on that Soi too.I was assuming the Viet girls would be baby-free.
Member #4698
12-08-19, 17:38
What's going on here folks? Is it possible to get laid in this town? How can this call itself a mongering destination?A possible explanation is high season blues. Now and for the next 60 days is the time some not so good girls can get away with charging outrageous prices and cutting back services. I hate high season everywhere it exists and I should know living in South Florida one of the high season tourist capitals of the world. But the good thing about high season is that it makes possible the existence of the large number of venues, bars, hotels, restaurants and girls of which we can all partake and enjoy in low season.
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year everybody. Looking forward to Spring & Summer LOS 2020!
StLouisMo2010
12-08-19, 17:46
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.Thanks for your posts, they were / are good and informative- I wrote once about a mistake I made, don't let the critics get you down, you will prevail, I read the board daily and respect most, ignore some, and get bored by some- don't give up.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-08-19, 18:36
Your reports are informative and entertaining, and well worth reading. Glad you reconsidered you decision to not post any more reports. Stopping posting because of stupid attacks by supposed know-it-alls actually gives them the power to control the board that they crave. You should instead tell them fuck off and put you on their ignore list if they dislike your posts so much, as well as put them on your ignore list.
Do the Viet girls congregate in a particular place on soi 4?They often share rooms at Nana City Hotel. That is near Rajah. You should be able to find them there. They usually have lighter skin.
Tool Shedd, keep on posting. You post for those who like it. I want to hear more about fake orgasm, does she know?
Applesauce
12-08-19, 20:33
BTW, all hotels in the area are girl-friendly except to 5-star Hyatt, Sheraton, Westin, etc.The former Starwood brands are definitely girl friendly. Even so now under the Marriott acquisition.
At the Sheraton Sukhumvit, either the front desk will call your room when the girl arrives or an employee will escort the girl directly to your room. I don't really like the latter but that's what they do. I booked a girl through Smooci, she really didn't look that attractive in person and I was embarrassed that the Sheraton staff escorted her to my room.
The Westin front desk will call your room and ask if you're expecting a guest. When the girl leaves, the front desk will call again to make sure you're okay.
Some reports on this thread suggest the Viet girls on soi 4 are mercenary and not service minded. Are they that much better looking than the Thais that they're worth the higher price and risk of poor service?In my opinion, no.
Steve 9696
12-08-19, 21:10
My biggest opportunity for improvement is to grow some of that there crocodile skin.
Thanks for your comment.
Tool Shedd.Let me jump in here too! Please keep posting and ignore the haters. And if you really want good service for fat old bald guys go to Sharks FKK in Germany. They are used to it and it's their job. They will make you happy!
Also the Romanian girls at Diva Escort in London are fabulous. About $200/hr.
Some reports on this thread suggest the Viet girls on soi 4 are mercenary and not service minded. Are they that much better looking than the Thais that they're worth the higher price and risk of poor service?In my opinion, no, unless you get an upfront agreement from them that they will do whatever is important enough to you that it can make or break the idea of spending the money and time having a session with them in the first place. But that is mostly true of any P4P girls in Thailand.
MichaelSamuel
12-08-19, 22:56
Like many of the regulars I don't have much that I view as being valuable to contribute here since I mostly spend most of my time with regulars (1 from dollhouse, 1 from twister, and a previous lorde girl).
Nana bar wise I had drinks in twister and billboard, both had some selection, though billboard was better overall.
I hit the new XXX on opening night and it was a really nice bar, never been in a brand new gogo bar before, the poles still had that new pole smell. Girl selection was pretty damn fine, but I know it was stocked extra for opening night so how that holds out time will tell. I would have pulled from there but the hottie I was with turned out to be on the rag, or just didn't want to barfine. Annoying for sure, but not my first time and I had fun at the opening and with my friends so was still a fun time and her loss on the baht and my magic stick. Also I heard that the barfine pricing is crazy at something over 1500 or more? Someone else may be able to add here.
Lastly cowboy, I stopped in Shark to see if my old regular who supposedly had moved off the pole was back, but surprisingly she was not. There were a few cuties around but nothing above a 7/8. Dollhouse has been my normal hangout as of late for many reasons: one of my regulars works there, manager is great and a good host, music is better than average, girls do not push for drinks, girls and customers look like they are happy and having a good time, waitresses are funny and playful, and lastly there are always at least a few girls working every night I would bar fine. Now if you are looking for the best girls in total it's probably not dollhouse, but for overall bar performance it gets my business. Other than my regular took a cute little thing named Mint at no more than 40 kg for a ST romp that was fulfilling. BF was 700 either cause it was ST or because after 1 am, not sure which? LT before 1 is definitely 1 k. If you are looking for full nude too there is the upstairs, sure it's usually the be or see shift girls, but there are smiles on their faces and everyone seems happy and you can use your phone (caugh caugh, crazy / kozy houses). I don't object to their policy on phones BTW, but if I am not going to use mine when patronizing your establishment when the girl is on my time she isn't on her phone either until she is paid and we are done.
I would have pulled from there but the hottie I was with turned out to be on the rag, or just didn't want to barfine. Annoying for sure, but not my first time and I had fun at the opening and with my friends so was still a fun time and her loss on the baht and my magic stick. Also I heard that the barfine pricing is crazy at something over 1500 or more? Someone else may be able to add here.
Lastly cowboy, I stopped in Shark to see if my old regular who supposedly had moved off the pole was back, but surprisingly she was not. Like you said, opening night they could have hired some "models" from agency who were not up for BFing. Not unusual at all. Maybe nothing to do with her period.
In Shark, some gogo girls get a regular BF / sponsor, e. G. Mali is one I think, and may not be back for a long time, or ever. I saw her with her guy in Billboard one night a few months back. You did not mention the name so this girl is unlikely to be your girl I guess. Mali (sometimes called Maa for short) is just one example of older girl but very sexy (ex Suzie Wong). I have taken both Maa and Patty for 3 some at times, but probably Maa will not be back (for now).
Dollhouse is O.K. nothing so special (a bit quiet) , but I know it absolutely depends on where you have good regular girls. Shark sucks for me (over dressed and crap dancing), if were not for regular girls, although music is O.K. If Shark does not have Maa or Patty, I would not bother. Did not try BFing the Coyotes (yet).
Doll House used have a terrible mamasan (annoying type), then she left and a really great waitress was promoted to mamasan, but I think she is gone now too, since Doll House ex owner died when did the fall from the high balcony of apartment building while drunk. So I used to be there fairly regular a few years back.
Your reports have been solid and your willingness to swap details through PM appreciated.
I urge you to ignore the haters, and don't leave the forum.
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.
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If you are looking for full nude too there is the upstairs, sure it's usually the be or see shift girls, but there are smiles on their faces and everyone seems happy and you can use your phone (caugh caugh, crazy / kozy houses). I don't object to their policy on phones BTW, but if I am not going to use mine when patronizing your establishment when the girl is on my time she isn't on her phone either until she is paid and we are done.LOL. That is one of the best new ideas I have read here in a while. Excellent suggestion. I will probably incorporate that in my upfront agreements at the establishments that frown on or forbid you to use your phone. And I'll ask the mamasan or whoever collects the barfine to explain my phone policy to the girl the same way they "explain" their phone policy to me in the bar just in case she doesn't undetstand when I tell her about it.
BTW, all hotels in the area are girl-friendly except to 5-star HyattNope, all four Hyatts in BKK are GF friendly. I've stayed in them all quite often.
Tool Shedd
12-09-19, 06:28
Tool Shedd, keep on posting. You post for those who like it. I want to hear more about fake orgasm, does she know?She looked in the condom and wondered about the lack of joy juice there. I think she wrote it off to my age and physical condition.
I had invited a girl at King Castle I yesterday. Luckily I had asked about short time before paying her a drink because ST was "Cannot".
Today King Castle I again. Plied the mamasan's green laser on a girl on stage. Girl in Cannot palaver with mamasan. Hab customer, so the mamasan's translation.
I had taken 2 girls out from Pink Panther's before so I fell back on Pink Panther. Not many girls tonight that I fancied, only one in fact. I pointed to her. Cannot. Hab cust...
Outside Pink Panther I settled for a MILF. 600 BF + 1500. Inside the hotel room at Tarntawan she turned out a scammer.
What's going on here folks? Is it possible to get laid in this town? How can this call itself a mongering destination?To add to this just in case there really is a trend going on instead of the usual "it comes and goes in waves" phenomenon; twice in the past week I put girls out of my room with only 20-30% of what I agreed to pay them because they were either so godawful at their job or they outright lied to me (scammed) in the bar about what they agreed to do. And I only gave that much because they had at least gotten naked and started to do something minimally competent in my room. Unfortunately, I had already paid the 700 baht or so barfine for each in the bar. One was from a beer bar and one was from a go-go bar. Both bars were places I have frequented many, many times and for the most part had not been scammed.
But this was twice in a row in just the previous week. I have avoided trying new girls for now and have retreated to some of my good quality regulars until this "wave" of bad experiences has a chance to run its course, maybe a couple of weeks. In my case I live here and can weather these kinds of lousy waves, compare them to the terrific weeks I've had and no doubt will continue to have. But I suspect if this was my first trip to Thailand and I got 2-3 of those kinds of experiences in a row, I would book the next flight the hell out of this country, vow never to return again and assume any "good" reports I read from punters on sites like this one were pure hogwash.
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.Hi Tool Shedd.
Please ignore the off-putting comments from a one and do continue to write your adventures in your own unique style. I am a great admirer of your writing style and have read all your FRs at least twice while living vicariously through all your posts at both Thailand and Abu Dhabi forums.
You are the Star and a beacon of light.
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Member #4766
12-09-19, 13:34
I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.
I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.
Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.
Tool Shedd.Tool Shed Buddy you are a gem. Your posts are most informative and very well articulated which is purpose of this forum. Please don't stop posting because of some people who find it hard to digest that you are having a good time in Thailand.
I unfortunately booked a crap hotel on soi 7 (soi go pee pee) but in doing so saw that a mini complex of of about 15 new girly bars being constructed right now. Its right off Sukumvit and before the beer garden. Only one open as of yesterday staffed by 3 grandmas but hopefully when this mini complex is complete they get some fresh talent. In the days of tear anything down remotely good to build a shit condo this could be some rare good news. And on the far side of the street are multiple pop up bar stands with some street food, late career Thai hos and a few hot Africans to entertain you while watching the paint dry on the the new girly bars.That is good news. I've a friend who lives down Soi 7 who told me this place was coming; glad it's here. It's possible that some of the new places are replacements for others from different sois that are being pushed out by the condo development you write about. But even if it's a net 0 proposition, it beats losing more places. Thanks for sharing this information AL.
........... twice in the past week I put girls out of my room with only 20-30% of what I agreed to pay them because they were either so godawful at their job or they outright lied to me (scammed) in the bar about what they agreed to do. .............That's the beauty of mongering in Thailand. One can never pull that off and get away with health and wealth in Latin America. However, the LA chicas do perform better than the Thai babes.
I did start FB, it hasn't gone anywhere yet. IG, not sure how you meet them there? Is there a "people nearby" function or some other method I'm missing out on?IG happens more by accident and with a little work. Like I said, these are 'long plays. ' First, make sure you have a couple of posts in your IG profile. Some of the FLs and other girls will post their IG account information on TF, for example. You follow them. Look at their posts in the past and when they come up. Look at who comments or likes. You see some good looking friends there that you start following. Just keep building the contacts you follow. Comment and DM the ones you are interested in. Sometimes you get lucky. That's how I found Hooters girl. Total accident. And I didn't know she was a Hooter's girl until I saw her IG post. BTW, there are a few cuties at the Soi 4 Hooters. If you're asking about the one who bartends often -- I wish!
That's the beauty of mongering in Thailand. One can never pull that off and get away with health and wealth in Latin America. However, the LA chicas do perform better than the Thai babes.I only had 2 times where there was any hint of a threat to me for drastically reducing the amount agreed upon "IF" or refusing to pay anything at all. One was about 30 years ago and the other one was about 5 years ago. Both were Freelancers. Neither incident was all that serious of a risk, just raised voices and the girl appeared to be prepared to make a big scene for whoever was around at the time.
But that was no big deal, just a lot of dramatic play acting on their part. With those two, the recent two and any other occasions where I have done it, it was so blatantly obvious they got busted on an attempted scam they had no argument or complaint to make really.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-09-19, 19:14
Snip. Unfortunately, I had already paid the 700 baht or so barfine for each in the bar. One was from a beer bar and one was from a go-go bar. Both bars were places I have frequented many, many times and for the most part had not been scammed. Snip.This is the second time a poster has said he paid a beer bar fine that is the same as a go-go bar fine (Tool Shed at Big Dog being the other one). The last I remember reading about a beer bar fine in Soi 4 it was 300-400 baht (I think it was a Hillary bar). Is 700-800 baht the new price for beer bar fines? Why the doubling in price, and why are guys paying it?
This is the second time a poster has said he paid a beer bar fine that is the same as a go-go bar fine (Tool Shed at Big Dog being the other one). The last I remember reading about a beer bar fine in Soi 4 it was 300-400 baht (I think it was a Hillary bar). Is 700-800 baht the new price for beer bar fines? Why the doubling in price, and why are guys paying it?I have read that the beer bars in the new Soi 7 complex, supposedly to be called Nana Market, will charge an 800 baht barfine for their girls. These days it is unusual when I hear that the barfine in a go-go bar is 800 baht instead of 1000 baht or even 1,500 baht unless it is one of the slower nights of the week. And the beer bar girls start out quoting 3,000 baht for ST just as the go-go girls do. That doesn't mean they get it, just that they ask for it. Same with the go-go girls.
These are some of the reasons I have no qualms whatever about reducing the amount I agreed to pay "IF" we fuck bareback or whatever I have proposed and they have agreed to do but they don't at least bring minimally acceptable effort to my bed or, worst case scenario, they have bullshitted their way into my room.
A 1,500 baht barfine and 2,500 baht to the girl, as much as I will generally go for a sweet, young, fit and cute go-go girl who agrees to Real Sex with me is, imo, serious enough money to expect good service, good attitude and no bullshit about it. Otherwise, I will cut back on the money without a moment's hesitation and feel just fine about it. And I suppose 800 baht barfine and 2,000 baht to a beer bar girl is a comparable counterpart for those kind of venues.
And I have never felt noticeable negative vibe or repercussions in the venue later. Not even all that much from the same girl in the same venue. You don't want to pay dramatically less willy nilly for no good reason, of course. But if it is for a good reason, the girl usually understands.
The idea of any of us paying 1000 - 1500 baht barfine just to the bar is probably harder for them to understand than reducing their pay for providing obviously crap service.
Member #4698
12-09-19, 21:22
A 1,500 baht barfine and 2,500 baht to the girl, as much as I will generally go for a sweet, young, fit and cute go-go girl who agrees to Real Sex with me is, imo, serious enough money to expect good service, good attitude and no bullshit about it. Otherwise, I will cut back on the money without a moment's hesitation and feel just fine about it. And I suppose 800 baht barfine and w,000 baht to a beer bar girl is a comparable counterpart for those kind of venues.I agree! At this price level customers have a right to expect good to excellent service from a very sexy girl. But customers must also know how to pick the right girl and bring her around. Nothing is automatic or guaranteed.
I have paid the 1000 baht to 1500 baht super barfine at certain Agency Go Go's for a number of years. I think it was 2011 when I 1st went to What's Up Go Go in Pattaya and met Nut. I was and am still willing to pay these prices, but only if the girl is really hot. In BKK the super barfine never really caught on like it has in Pattaya. The only place in BKK that I have paid it is in Kings Castle 1 because I am usually very happy with select girls in RB2, RB4, Twister, Billboard, and Pink with their normal barfines. But even in the days when my Mini worked in Baccara (Cowboy), the barfine was 800 baht, but the bar had a 2 lady drink minimum before any of their girls were allowed to leave which made the real out the door barfine over 1000 baht. Kind of. I normally buy a Go Go girl a drink if I am at all interested in her anyway. It's called the audition.
The last time I was in Pattaya in May, the difference in quality between the better Agency Go Go girls with super barfines and the girls in regular Go go's was palpable. I mean I could see the difference immediately. Bummer! 555. As a result I paid up and only barfined girls I liked from Pin Up and Sensations. Of course I also had some cheap fun in the afternoon on Soi 6 Roxy Bar and Soi Full Love Inn 007 Club. So I don't know what I will make of the new Soi 7 "Nana Market" hostess girly bars until I check them out, but it sounds like they are being way too optimistic about prices. I mean asking for an 800 barfine & 3000 baht for a former Queens Park (Soi 22) bar girl is CRAZY IMHO. Then again it is high season so it might work at least temporarily, but long term I don't think many punters are going to shell out that kind of money for a 4 or 5 star out of 10 star girl.
By comparison, my little 19 year old Rocket Blaster from 007 Club Soi Full Love Inn was 1000 baht + 300 for the room and the sex was great. Yes, she was a little scrawny thing and weighed less than 38 kg with very small tits, but she had something I found attractive in a crazy kind of way and she turned me on. Later that same night I barfined a Pin Up girl for 1500 baht and I gave her 3000. She was much better looking with a hell of a lot more fashion sense than my afternoon girl. The sex with Miss Pin Up was very good. I plan on seeing her again when I return to Pat. But the bottom line is its hard to compare the 2 sessions, they were so different, and the main point I would like to convey is that I enjoyed them both, the 1300 baht all in little waif girl and the 4500 baht smokin' hot and she knew it, agency girl.
Hi guys,
Finally I'll join to the club, Ill spent Saturday night on Bangkok for action. But do you think I can find action in Nana or Soi Cowboy on a Sunday night or Monday in daylight? I really don't expect to be crowded with girls but at least some nice ones.
I have read that the beer bars in the new Soi 7 complex, supposedly to be called Nana Market, will charge an 800 baht barfine for their girls. These days it is unusual when I hear that the barfine in a go-go bar is 800 baht instead of 1000 baht or even 1,500 baht unless it is one of the slower nights of the week. And the beer bar girls start out quoting 3,000 baht for ST just as the go-go girls do. That doesn't mean they get it, just that they ask for it. Same with the go-go girls.I have never seen a gogo asking more than 1000 b for barfine in bkk. Though in Pattaya, mainly on walking street, it's pretty much standard. In bkk, I have seen BF mostly around 600-800 b in both nana & cowboy.
Usually in bkk bars ask 1000 b for more popular girls, I think it was twister or billboard last month where I was asked 1 k because she was "popular". I denied and minutes later someone BFed her. Well, next day just out of temptation I BFed her for same amount (2,500 to girl for one shot), and service was decent. But was it worth it 4 k (including ladydrinks), nope.
CoconutWater89
12-10-19, 12:58
Thailand noob, sorry if these questions are redundant.
1. Which soapy massage places have a-level service?
2. Are there any massage places known for lots of enhanced cups?
3. What are generally the best soapy massage places in terms of "bang for the buck", pardon the pun.
4. Is there anywhere in BKK I can find mainland Chinese WGs?
5. Any general suggestion for a monger who dislikes crowds / late nights / bars / noise? Looking for a more relaxed experience overall and so far it seems soapy massage is up my alley, any suggestions for something similarly more low key?
Member #4698
12-10-19, 18:30
Hi guys,
Finally I'll join to the club, Ill spent Saturday night on Bangkok for action. But do you think I can find action in Nana or Soi Cowboy on a Sunday night or Monday in daylight? I really don't expect to be crowded with girls but at least some nice ones.Sunday night or any night rocks on Cowboy or Nana except on a religious national holiday which closes the bars.
There are several afternoon pick up bars on Soi 4 like Morning Night Bar & Stumble Inn Bar with friendly hostess girls that are worth checking out, but the best afternoon venue in BKK, IMHO, are the oily massage parlors. Take the BTS to Phrom Phong station or take a taxi then wander around Soi 24 and Soi 26. There are at least 20 different oily parlors to choose from. RTFF and head over there. It's an afternoon delight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU0zpZu6fVk
Hi everyone,
Going to throw out a random questions.
I come out to BKK at least 2 x a year. I done massage parlers, oillys, gogos, nightclubs. Can anyone recommend a different experience. I am usually in bed by 10 pm, so not 2 adventurous, don't stay out too late. I wanted to check with you guys on any new services or experiences that might be the interesting. My method these days is picking up a gal from Thermae, because there are usually gals ready to go at 8 pm and my hotel is a few blocks away, though I am sure I pay extra. Any really high end massage parlours / fish bowls? I remember Emanuelles from back in day, that place had stunners. Would love to try GFE. Maybe I give Smoochi a try? Love a girl dressed up in heels and fishnets.
Sunday night or any night rocks on Cowboy or Nana except on a religious national holiday which closes the bars.
There are several afternoon pick up bars on Soi 4 like Morning Night Bar & Stumble Inn Bar with friendly hostess girls that are worth checking out, but the best afternoon venue in BKK, IMHO, are the oily massage parlors. Take the BTS to Phrom Phong station or take a taxi then wander around Soi 24 and Soi 26. There are at least 20 different oily parlors to choose from. RTFF and head over there. It's an afternoon delight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU0zpZu6fVk+1 from me.
I think gogo bars officially close at 2 am but some are still open a bit longer. I would not advise showing up as late as 2 am, ideally. 9 pm is optimal. Later than 2am, then street walkers, cart bars, or discos maybe best.
Many MPs a good time is 5 pm to 6 pm for best lineup, but for Doki Doki, I think somewhat earlier, due to very busy.
The difficult thing is to find a good girl at 8 am or 9 am, some MPs and morning bars opening 10 am or 11 am. Does anyone have great suggestions for 8 am or 9 am? Prearranged girls is fine if they are reliable, but a lot are not for that early.
Thailand noob, sorry if these questions are redundant.
1. Which soapy massage places have a-level service?
2. Are there any massage places known for lots of enhanced cups?
3. What are generally the best soapy massage places in terms of "bang for the buck", pardon the pun.
4. Is there anywhere in BKK I can find mainland Chinese WGs?
5. Any general suggestion for a monger who dislikes crowds / late nights / bars / noise? Looking for a more relaxed experience overall and so far it seems soapy massage is up my alley, any suggestions for something similarly more low key?1. I don't find any Soapies have extra special service. All depends on the girl chosen and compatibility.
Doki doki seemed to have extra good service but I tried only 1 girl Nadia, and is Nuru body slide, not soapy.
2. Any MP will have lots of enhanced cups girls. Major soapies are full of it. Addict would be a good example of Oily with many sets of sillies and nose jobs.
3. Best bang for buck is tough as again depends on the girl. Petchburi road has some cheapies. Could try Merci, Meree, Evita as generally better priced places, where good girls have been found.
4. No idea about Chinese. Its not my thing, unless they are stunning. Have not even met any Chinese that could not speak Thai in Bangkok. Plenty of Thai chinese around, including in the Soapies.
5. I found Doki Doki 90 minute session blissful and relaxing. Only a few of the girls were pretty enough for my taste though. Once you find some great girls from whereever, you can have them come to your Hotel and have very relaxed session indeed. All night bookings are possible, but always check what time the girl needs to leave by. Some girls do not do all night. My regular girls come to me.
I have virtually given up Soapies due to inconvenient locations, and too many girls turned out to be below the experience I had come to expect. Yet 20+ years ago I was mainly a Soapies customer. These days the girls seem to prefer Asian customers, or I just choose the wrong ones. Service has declined. I don't go for surgeries girls unless very subtle jobs. Yes I still had a really good soapy experience on occasion, but I just hate the hit and miss ratios. All my regular soapy girls have gone. Also the very top bracket of Soapy girls have got just a bit expensive unless the service could be guaranteed.
Try everything! Then you will know what you really like. Maybe will get used to crowds and noise too.
I have never seen a gogo asking more than 1000 b for barfine in bkk. 700 Baht is still normal gogo girl BF in many Bars. Some bars have other categories, or a different low rate. Coyotes in Shark BF is 1. 5 K I think. In some other bars like Cowboy 2 and the Arab's bars it maybe higher, 2 K+. Barfine a coyote girl in some bars means you can take her to dinner or to a disco, etc, but not necessarily get sex. So wise to sort that issue out first. Some girls are "good girls" ha ha, and have a husband or BF. E. g. Crazy Cats in Cowboy, I could BF a student girl not doing hooker work, and take her to dinner. Alternatively I could take 2 or 3 girls to go eat quite cheaply, after the bar closes. They like that, typically.
Palmy was a super hot Coyote once working in Mercury bar Nana. She was not available for sex as far as I know. The BF varied depending on what time of night. An Asian guy was well known to arrive at just when the BF amount dropped (after midnight), and take her out to RCA, for drinking and dancing. I would definitely have paid a high BF for her if could take her to my bed. Otherwise was easier just to sit with her in the bar. Stunning face and body but no fuck!
CoconutWater89
12-11-19, 14:24
1. I don't find any Soapies have extra special service. All depends on the girl chosen and compatibility.
Doki doki seemed to have extra good service but I tried only 1 girl Nadia, and is Nuru body slide, not soapy.
2. Any MP will have lots of enhanced cups girls. Major soapies are full of it. Addict would be a good example of Oily with many sets of sillies and nose jobs.
3. Best bang for buck is tough as again depends on the girl. Petchburi road has some cheapies. Could try Merci, Meree, Evita as generally better priced places, where good girls have been found.
4. No idea about Chinese. Its not my thing, unless they are stunning. Have not even met any Chinese that could not speak Thai in Bangkok. Plenty of Thai chinese around, including in the Soapies.Thanks so much for all the info! I am not Asian, but live in China and am mistaken for one of their Asian ethnic minorities daily. Hoping to have a good experience and after further research it looks like a lot of your suggestions are exactly what I was hoping for.
I have never seen a gogo asking more than 1000 b for barfine in bkk. Though in Pattaya, mainly on walking street, it's pretty much standard. In bkk, I have seen BF mostly around 600-800 b in both nana & cowboy.
Usually in bkk bars ask 1000 b for more popular girls, I think it was twister or billboard last month where I was asked 1 k because she was "popular". I denied and minutes later someone BFed her. Well, next day just out of temptation I BFed her for same amount (2,500 to girl for one shot), and service was decent. But was it worth it 4 k (including ladydrinks), nope.Many go-go bars that ordinarily charge a 1,000 baht barfine will raise it to 1,500 baht during holiday periods, might even be for the entire weekend if the holiday or "special" day lands on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. And they might raise it for nights when the bar is having a party to celebrate their anniversary, present a dance contest or some other special event.
Thanks so much for all the info! I am not Asian, but live in China and am mistaken for one of their Asian ethnic minorities daily. I don't know much about the ethnic minorities, but I guess if you have Asian eye shape, Thais will consider you to be likely Asian of some type. Perhaps you are implying your eyes look non-Asian, I can't quite guess.
Guys with South East Asian looks seem to enjoy quite a few advantages in some mongering venues, but perhaps that is not your look. If you look Indian that could be more difficult as you might be assumed to have Indian ways of operating.
As a Farang (westerner), I am disadvantaged at some monger venues, where Singapore Chinese, American Chinese, Koreans and Japanese can do better, as examples.
If you look like none of these groups, Thais may not have pre conceived ideas, I am not sure. Skin colour may matter to some Thais. They are known to be more racist than some other countries.
Mainland Chinese don't enjoy a great reputation in Thailand for manners and politeness, consideration for others, and treating hookers with some respect levels, so try to be very polite and well mannered and not fit the typical Chinese tourist pattern. Chinese culture is so different. Chinese tour groups are very hard to take. You may know very well what I mean. Then your different looks will probably be a help. You could tell Thai girls you come from somewhere else. Ha ha.
Was fighting jetlags so went to Thermae early - 8:30 pm. The place was half full and the talent was horrible. Lot of older women or very unattractive Thais. Lot of guys waiting in the middle for better looking ladies. Waited 20 minutes and did a few rounds, but couldn't find anything to look at. Found one cutie named Nan hiding in the back. I could tell she had attitudes and wouldn't go lower than 2750. But I didn't want to wait and was really getting tired, so brought her home. Quite attractive (the natural beauty type), all natural body. But absolute mechanical service. Like negative GFE! Didn't let me shower with her, everything with condom. After cum she literally ran out. Was a bad experience. Oh well.
Will try to avoid going so early in future.
Was fighting jetlags so went to Thermae early - 8:30 pm. The place was half full and the talent was horrible. Lot of older women or very unattractive Thais. Lot of guys waiting in the middle for better looking ladies. Waited 20 minutes and did a few rounds, but couldn't find anything to look at. Found one cutie named Nan hiding in the back. I could tell she had attitudes and wouldn't go lower than 2750. But I didn't want to wait and was really getting tired, so brought her home. Quite attractive (the natural beauty type), all natural body. But absolute mechanical service. Like negative GFE! Didn't let me shower with her, everything with condom. After cum she literally ran out. Was a bad experience. Oh well.
Will try to avoid going so early in future.He he he. I thought my views on Thermae were extreme but not compared to you. Simple solution. Give up Thermae as a bad joke. Ha ha. Personally I don't bother to go any more. I had plenty of experiences not memorable like you describe, and no girl worth repeating since years. "Negative GFEs" ha ha. Some of us just have to realise we have conflicting requirements.
In the old days at Thermae was quite different, at least for Farangs like me. Got GFEs for all night bookings regularly. Repeated the girls several times and was "hooked" on those sweet and sexy girls. Seemed to be difficult to fail there. Nowadays, much more challenging to get a really memorable girl.
I even had much better experiences with Soi 4 girls (some of them were a lucky pick) for last year or so, but not all of them. Still have to make the right choice not always easy.
Mixx was hopping last night. Some new faces together with did usual run of pin cushions. I have seen at least a dozen foreign girls that have been there for well over 18 months. There are semi-pros there now too.
Member #4698
12-14-19, 14:29
I am not a big fan of Thermae either and I wouldn't even think of going there until at least 11 pm because 8:30 pm to 10 pm is prime time Go Go time and that is where you will find me almost every night, 555, unless I decided to go to a soapy instead or hold off and hit the nightclubs later. When I drop by Thermae it is almost always after after midnight and after I have said goodnight to my GO GO girl of the night, so I am just out and about enjoying the night air and happen to be passing by Thermae, so I stop in for a short while just to see what's happening and who is available on my way somewhere else.
The major problem I have with Thermae is that the set up is no longer conducive to sitting with a pretty girl, having a little fun, and getting to know one another over a couple of drinks. Some Thermae FL's, the older ones especially, sitting around the island, look like they want to make you happy, but the sexy younger girls sitting along the walls are in prima donna mode and I don't like that. It's cold. At least in the now defunct other BKK meat market called Nataree, all the young attractive girls there used to have big friendly smiles on their faces and acted like they wanted to have a good time with you. I found even with the less experienced Nataree girls that when I took the time to turn them on (DATY) I would experience a pretty good romp. With the younger, sexy Thermae girls, I just don't know and don't really care. There are better places to go to pick up girls.
Well was there in Nov. Went to Soi cowboy. Did the walk down the road to check out the girls on the street. Went straight to the end rounder the corner and into Crazy House! Love the full nude when you walk I. Sat and had a drink to take I the view. There was some good talent on this Saturday night. Love the glass floor on the second floor. Had a g on g with a strapon that went on for about 5 min. I know I was below looking up. But wow was a great view both looked into it and the with with the strapon was really giving it to the other. First time I had seen this in this bar. Still can not get over the farang that bring their wives and GF into the go gos. This one girl was looking around with this look on her face so I rubbed the tit is and played with the nipples of the girl on my knee as she walked by and gave me a dirty look.
She was number 63 29 years old and had a baby scar from see section. But nicely hidden with a tattoo. We made a bit of a connection over a few drinks and I paid the 700 bht fine and we were off.
Back at my hotel. OMG we showered. (separate) then as I dried off she took off my towel and gave me a greet BBJ for about 5 min.
As sh asked for a condom put it on me and sat on me. And still tight as hell. We did about 5 different position had a lot to drink and couldn't cum. But she hopped on top and rode me till I finally cum. I asked if she want to stay the night she said yes. About 40 min latter she said she was still horny. Ribbed my cock still hard and before I could say condom she sat down balls deep all she said was better this way. No cum in me. Fuck it to late to stop so I just enjoyed the ride. 3000 plus 500 tip got her line as she said she wanted me message her when I was back in town after Philippines.
Don't woory I flew to PH the next day got tested for everything and again at the end of trip. All clear!
More in the Cebu section next post.
Mixx was hopping last night. Some new faces together with did usual run of pin cushions. I have seen at least a dozen foreign girls that have been there for well over 18 months. There are semi-pros there now too.Is Mixx a good place to pick up Russian Freelancer?
Is Mixx a good place to pick up Russian Freelancer?Hi Dear,
You can certainly get ex Russian country girls in MIXX (Stanis). I also encountered Colombian girls there and few Russian. Happy mongering.
At least in the now defunct other BKK meat market called Nataree, all the young attractive girls there used to have big friendly smiles on their faces and acted like they wanted to have a good time with you. I found even with the less experienced Nataree girls that when I took the time to turn them on (DATY) I would experience a pretty good romp. My experiences in Nataree were a bit different. I found the more experienced girls there were better. Some girls that were newbies were really quite miserable stuck on a contract, quite clueless about sex, and dick scared as well. Not exactly wanting to get it off in sex in a big way, but hard to remember the details now, so long ago. Other newbies were okay However rarely met any newbies good enough to repeat. I did repeat one or two girls from the fishbowl more experienced section. Did you actually develop a few newbie regulars, or maybe are able to enjoy any fresh young things, regardless of how lacking in sexual skills?
In those days I had quite a few regular soapy girls at various venues. Nataree was not my favourite despite the huge line up. I used to use Emmanuelle, Amsterdam, Versailles, JC Infinity and La Belle when Jip moved there, Mona Lisa, Copa Cabana, Poseidon, Long Beech, Utopia (sister of La Belle), Cleopatra (Din Daeng), Chao Praya 2, Bangkok Cosy, even J One, La Defense, and eventually even Annies. I really tried a lot of Soapy venues. Looked in nearly all of them in the near region.
So Nataree had a lot of fairly useless very young inexperienced not so happy girls in my personal view. Not all of them, but a significant percentage. I would take a girl from the Thai massage section (older) if any were pretty enough.
I must be much harder to please these days, as now hardly go the Soapies any more. Too much chance of a dud session, or high surgeries girls. Its much easier to assess girl compatibility in a Bar, especially if she has no clothes on, and even then make mistakes.
SoberHans69
12-15-19, 11:10
What's the average rate for st from the girls in the soi 11 disco's?
Went to a couple on my one night in Bangkok last trip but had an early flight next morning so didn't take anyone.
Cheers.
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