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Thailand has 60 road deaths / day, not counting the wounded, and they're not elderly people. Even multiplying Thai official figures by ten you don't come close to that.
Meanwhile some European countries have decided to scuttle themselves to prevent people who would have died at the age of 83 from dying at the age of 81. Note that the same countries were preparing to cripple their economies to "save the climate" anyway. Since the coronavirus doesn't thrive in humid climates, the climate savers could adopt it as their emblem.
African countries where malaria kills 300 thousand every year and other tropical diseases another 300 thousand are starting to implement lockdowns and hardening dictatorships. Picture NGOs and relief agencies rubbing their hands at the juicy new corona scams they're going to pull. Aids was getting boring. This comes at the right time.
Franciscass
03-30-20, 04:54
I remember the big hullabaloo over the Hong Kong flu, it was nothing like this, this is much much worse, at least the reaction to it so far. Unfortunately Dr. Anthony Fauci seems to be a much saner voice than Trump. Dr. Fauci said today that the United States deaths from coronavirus could reach 200,000 with millions of cases.Where we are on the curve and what the shape of the curve is or will be is different for different countries. For the US the expected 100,000 to 200,000 deaths is accepted now even by dragged to the alter Trump compared to just thousands at present. This shows what's ahead. Its just beginning. Same in the UK. China, South Korea are further along the curve with a return to a semblance of normality already happening.
Thailand? . So hard to know with any certainty where we are. Have we been incredibly fortunate to have avoided high incidences of infection and deaths or is it something else. Lets hope it's the former.
In my opinion the future equilibrium of P4P will change with more on line connections and fewer punters for the foreseeable future.
Those girls that went off the grid going back home will soon start getting bored with life in the villages and small towns and slowly restrictions notwithstanding start returning to the where there might be some action. It is said there is no supply and demand pricing in the P4P world. Umm lets wait and see.
Lots of venues will change hands, get sold cheaply to operators with cash which will create a more concentrated ownership structure where possibly prices will go up. The go go segment most notably in Cowboy and Soi 6 are examples of how this was already happening.
Its interesting to see we still have science deniers about what this pandemic is all about and with what will be in time although I wouldn't be around to see it more disastrous and destructive I. E. Climate change.
BackpackBrian
03-30-20, 06:35
Visited years ago and wasn't that impressed the girls or prices, I don't remember how much I spent on the club girls, but I think it was over $100 US.
There was a room in the back of the gogo club where we spent about 30 minutes.
I had cheaper experiences with local girls from bars that I took back to my room and paid (if I remember) about $20 US for the whole night.
Can anyone update me on current prices in Bangkok and Pattaya?
1. In the club (some room in the back or upstairs).
2. at your hotel.
I just watched a couple of Youtube vids and the mamason was quoting 600 Baht for takeout and another 3000 Baht for 1 shot!
Is this for real, more than Germany FKK?
I'm a multiple times a year visitor to German and Swiss FKKs so I'm familiar with those prices.
Aids was getting boring. This comes at the right time.I've got exactly the same feeling.
Every ten or twenty years there's a new dangerous and contagious disease that pops up from nowhere.
Each time we got accustomed to the newest disease we're going to see a new one popping up.
First it was Aids, then Sars / Mers and now Covid19.
Where we are on the curve and what the shape of the curve is or will be is different for different countries. For the US the expected 100,000 to 200,000 deaths is accepted now even by dragged to the alter Trump compared to just thousands at present. This shows what's ahead. Its just beginning. Same in the UK. China, South Korea are further along the curve with a return to a semblance of normality already happening.
Thailand? . So hard to know with any certainty where we are. Have we been incredibly fortunate to have avoided high incidences of infection and deaths or is it something else. Lets hope it's the former.
In my opinion the future equilibrium of P4P will change with more on line connections and fewer punters for the foreseeable future.
Those girls that went off the grid going back home will soon start getting bored with life in the villages and small towns and slowly restrictions notwithstanding start returning to the where there might be some action. It is said there is no supply and demand pricing in the P4P world. Umm lets wait and see.
Lots of venues will change hands, get sold cheaply to operators with cash which will create a more concentrated ownership structure where possibly prices will go up. The go go segment most notably in Cowboy and Soi 6 are examples of how this was already happening.
Its interesting to see we still have science deniers about what this pandemic is all about and with what will be in time although I wouldn't be around to see it more disastrous and destructive I. E. Climate change.You have a somewhat optimistic perspective. I hope you are right.
I have a different view. I believe the impact of covid 19 will affect different regions differently.
I believe that the scene in Europe will be changed forever. I love pursuing our hobby in Germany and I am so happy that I decided to do winter punting there for the first time ever in that time of year as I doubt we will ever see FKKs again and at least I have fond memories of January, February, March, 2020. The conservative elements in Europe are strong and it would be very difficult for the advocates of P4P there to persuade the authorities to get back into the business of body to body contact. Again, I hope I am wrong.
I see things taking a different route in Latin America. Our favorite destinations there, Mexico, Colombia, the Dominican Republic and Brazil depend heavily on tourism and their economies will take a severe hit by the onslaught of the virus. I think as soon as there is a let up in the casualties those countries will want to open up as soon as possible with activities that encourage tourism back in full swing. As a matter of fact blokes are still mongering in Mexico as I am typing this.
Asia will be different from the aforementioned. It will lie somewhere in between in not closing down entirely like Europe but not as 'back to business' as Latin America. How much of a decline in p4p in Asia there will be I find it hard to predict. However, Asians are much more prone to clamping down on p4p than Latin Americans. Look at Singapore, Malaysia and China, where p4p is just a shadow of what it once was. Who is to say that the same can't happen in Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia?
Banana Boi
03-30-20, 18:57
There was a room in the back of the gogo club where we spent about 30 minutes.I am not aware of any Pattaya gogo bar that still has rooms in the club. The last ones I knew were a well known dirty gogo but the rooms got shut down after a bust around 3 years ago. There was another very popular gogo bar right on Walking Street that had rooms upstairs that very few knew about. Both gogo bars still popular and open but neither has rooms any more. A BKK expert can chime in about BKK gogo bars.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4223280/British-tourist-caught-bed-prostitute.html
I just watched a couple of Youtube vids and the mamason was quoting 600 Baht for takeout and another 3000 Baht for 1 shot!
Is this for real, more than Germany FKK?.Try 2000 BF plus 3000ST in top Pattaya gogo bars. Cheaper in BKK gogo bars but I still don't think top gogo bars are as low as 600 baht BF. 3600 baht would be 100 euro. Cheaper than Germany FKK? Not really if you count the 70 euro to get in to a FKK like Oase, then 50 euro for half the time with no BBBJ or DFK or a 50 euro upcharge. That is still for 1 shot in most cases. What FKK has going for it is drinks and half decent food are free and you can spend on entire day there from noon til well beyond midnight.
Try 2000 BF plus 3000ST in top Pattaya gogo bars. Cheaper in BKK gogo bars but I still don't think top gogo bars are as low as 600 baht BF. 3600 baht would be 100 euro. Cheaper than Germany FKK? Not really if you count the 70 euro to get in to a FKK like Oase, then 50 euro for half the time with no BBBJ or DFK or a 50 euro upcharge. That is still for 1 shot in most cases. What FKK has going for it is drinks and half decent food are free and you can spend on entire day there from noon til well beyond midnight.I prefer FKK more than gogos, and like you said food plus multiple shots in a day are good perks. If someone is going to have just one shot, it might not be that different from gogos money wise. But I like having multiple shots over a day with different type of girls and then it becomes lot less expensive.
Try 2000 BF plus 3000ST in top Pattaya gogo bars. What a rip off.
Steve 9696
03-31-20, 00:59
I prefer FKK more than gogos, and like you said food plus multiple shots in a day are good perks. If someone is going to have just one shot, it might not be that different from gogos money wise. But I like having multiple shots over a day with different type of girls and then it becomes lot less expensive.Really it's not so much about the girls of even price (for me). For a day of fun and relaxation FKK cannot be beat. Fuck, sauna, fuck, massage, fuck, eat, fuck, sleep, fuck. Nothing worldwide comes close for a complete body experience. Want to feel true GFE where you believe it? Or see 150 7-9's in one club? Can't beat Sao Paulo Brazil. Epic neon and more girls per square mile than anywhere else on earth then Thailand. Want to not only fuck the Gogo girls but also the waitress, barmaids, and hostesses? Moscow! Want to fuck a Romanian stunner in her own bed in her studio apt? London baby!
To me you can get pretty girls anywhere in the world. It's the variety of formats and venues that are so fun for me.
Really it's not so much about the girls of even price (for me). For a day of fun and relaxation FKK cannot be beat. Fuck, sauna, fuck, massage, fuck, eat, fuck, sleep, fuck. Nothing worldwide comes close for a complete body experience. Want to feel true GFE where you believe it? Or see 150 7-9's in one club? Can't beat Sao Paulo Brazil. Epic neon and more girls per square mile than anywhere else on earth then Thailand. Want to not only fuck the Gogo girls but also the waitress, barmaids, and hostesses? Moscow! Want to fuck a Romanian stunner in her own bed in her studio apt? London baby!
To me you can get pretty girls anywhere in the world. It's the variety of formats and venues that are so fun for me.I don't like all the constant pressure to buy drinks, drinks, drinks at some of the go-go clubs in places like Thailand and the Philippines. Don't get me wrong, I like to toss a few back. But, I typically don't like to drink to drunkenness. Can happen easily in those damn go-go bars! I don't like getting drunk, and I don't want the girl to be drunk either when I fuck her. Makes for a "lesser fuck".
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Can anyone update me on current prices in Bangkok and Pattaya?
1. In the club (some room in the back or upstairs).
2. at your hotel.
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By "current prices", are you talking about during this Covid-19 lockdown? If so, there are no clubs, go-go bars, beer bars or happy ending massage shops open currently in Bangkok that I know of. However, the guys with the color brochures showing a soapie or fish tank venue they want to take you to are still present at certain times during the day. So maybe some of those are still operating, secretly or otherwise.
As for "at your hotel", if you mean freelancers, I can only report some FLs on the dating sites are still starting out at 3,000 baht for ST. LOL. I have not hit up those for a real appointment for Real Sex, but I assume I can talk them down from that rate these days.
I ran into a past favorite FL in one of the malls that was still open for limited take-out food from a few of their little restaurants and the Gourmet Market a couple of days ago. In the past, as recently as less than 2 years ago, she never budged from 2,000 ST, 5,000 LT. This time she said, "1,000 ST or LT, up to you, whatever you want." On the way to my room, I got a Line message from a better than average looking FL I met for the first time a few weeks ago but did not take because she was adamant about No bareback sex. Fine. Otherwise, at that time she was stuck on 1,500 baht for basic, standard fare of covered FS, which was of no interest to me at all. But this time her Line message was, "I'm hungry. 500 baht, anything you want. Or free, just for dinner. Can we meet?"
I haven't had time to get back to that one except to ask hours later if she ever did get something to eat. She did.
Anyway, those are some of the "current prices" I have been quoted from girls in Bangkok who would go to your hotel room without meeting them in a bar or club that isn't open these days.
As an aside, the principle that the better looking girls in any group or venue are the ones most likely to give you a Thermae-style cold shoulder and even more likely to give you lousy service prevails during these times as well. Yesterday, I was walking back to my room, perhaps one of the only potential customers on the scene for as far as the eye can see, and passed by 7-8 street girls. All but the 2-3 girls who might rate higher than a 6 in looks reached out, smiled, said something or responded to my smile and "Hello/Sawatdee Khrup."
The 2-3 better looking ones who might actually be (closed) Thermae refugees desperate to see it they can scrounge up a customer on the street these days, totally ignored me as I passed by, did not smile back at me after I smiled at them, did not utter a word of response to my Hello, nothing. LOL. Just as if they were still standing in Thermae waiting for a stray Asian customer to pass by on these otherwise desolate streets. Amazing. Well, I suppose it is comforting to know certain traditions never fade.
In daytime there are some talen on sukumvit around mcdonald"s want about 500 to 1000 bht st. No balloon. In evening up to thermea want 1000 bht but nicer looking, more need balloon. Soi 4 has some girls now in late afternoon. The ones there at night are low quality as far as I am conserned, but go for 500 to 1000st. I am going to see what China town is like.
In daytime there are some talen on sukumvit around mcdonald"s want about 500 to 1000 bht st. No balloon. In evening up to thermea want 1000 bht but nicer looking, more need balloon. Soi 4 has some girls now in late afternoon. The ones there at night are low quality as far as I am conserned, but go for 500 to 1000st. I am going to see what China town is like.I must admit Lee66, reading the posts by you and Mr. Real Sex gave me serious shivers straight down to my peehole! Imagine barebacking and swapping spit with desperate FLs (at heavily discounted prices or for a few bowls of noodles) while a terrifying global pandemic rages exponentially all around you. Hmmm, this must be what the pundits refer to thinking with your little (dick) heads! You guys are real certified corona studs. Need I add: Stay safe??
I must admit Lee66, reading the posts by you and Mr. Real Sex gave me serious shivers straight down to my peehole! Imagine barebacking and swapping spit with desperate FLs (at heavily discounted prices or for a few bowls of noodles) while a terrifying global pandemic rages exponentially all around you. Hmmm, this must be what the pundits refer to thinking with your little (dick) heads! You guys are real certified corona studs. Need I add: Stay safe??If you were here on the scene I don't think you would find any FLs who appear underfed or truly desperate. Just smiley (unless they rate 6+ in looks) and reaching out or speaking as usual. Even the one(s) who claim to be offering whatever because they are hungry seem to be able to find a meal ticket somewhere without my forcing them to do anything at all. Nobody is a bowl of noodles away from starvation here. But I think some are really annoyed that they don't have a spare 200 baht for a Line top up at 7-11 as handy as they're used to having it. And, believe it or not, some of my past regulars are just lonely and bored sitting in their room with no place to go and no reason to go out unless it is to come over and stay with me.
As far as your post subject title goes, I don't think anyone dodges exposure to Coronovirus in the least by wearing a condom once you are naked in the same room and rolling around in the same bed 10 other punters and/or P4P girls used in the past few days. I am not aware that it even enters your body through a peehole or endangers you that way, does it? Isn't it a respiratory system ailment? Ah, maybe if she touches her vagina with a contaminated hand or clothing before I DATY or if she gives me a BJ under those same circumstances.
Mr Enternational
03-31-20, 05:57
I must admit Lee66, reading the posts by you and Mr. Real Sex gave me serious shivers straight down to my peehole! Imagine barebacking and swapping spit with desperate FLs (at heavily discounted prices or for a few bowls of noodles) Where are you guys getting it from that people around here are desperate and starving? 500 baht ST was the normal price before tourists came fucking it up. Now that the tourists are gone, I see it as prices going back to normal.
I paid 40 baht for a bowl of chicken and noodles at a noodle restaurant the other day. So 500 baht would get a person 12 meals. 2 nights ago I stayed at a chick's place in Pattaya where they had a sign up, "Monthly Rental 2,500 baht". Keep things in perspective. Living here is not nearly expensive as it is where we are from, yet somehow P4P prices get jacked up.
Like ET, all the messages I am receiving from chicks are saying they are bored. I have not received 1 message from a chick saying they were on the street starving.
LittleBigMan
03-31-20, 07:47
I've long stopped debating with people here or anywhere as to what they want to pay or whether they should or shouldn't go bareback. I've myself lost control and done it myself but that was a long long time ago.
My first wife was in the health and political industry in a major city on the west coast some consider it the epic center of Hiv / Aids, I remember my rank and file job in the early '80's being a seniority position I was shocked how fast I was moving up since many were just dying off or transferring out. During those early years through her, I met and saw the sign of Aids through education from her I never discriminated against any of my co-workers and I've heard it enough times if I catch it I catch it and when they did it wasn't pretty.
Living here a number of years back I was seeing a regular older provider she was from Bangkok originally and tagged along once a week when I traveled from Pattaya to Bangkok to play some sports. One trip we met up with her younger sister for dinner through the dinner I was just told she is " mai Sabai " I know the signs so I spoke up and ask her the response was dead silence from both of them and then a reply how did I know?
That night shock me to the core the stories I heard from her and other providers she knew had me shaking my head. She and friends of her felt lost outcast no money no resources and with their little education which breeds ignorance, she was working freelancing even going bareback because they had lost hope didn't care since they felt they got it from foreigners now was going to give it back. I was told there were girls from Pattaya coming to Bangkok to work and Bangkok to Pattaya and guess what she and some of her friends were working on Sukhumvit and T.
Thereafter I provided her sister with some resources in Chon Buri to obtain treatment and her meds, I still keep in touch with the older sister and her younger sister is back up the farm no one knows in her family or friends. Every two or three months because she doesn't want people to see her entering the local hospital where she lives comes down to Chon Buri to obtain them and while here she works Freelance to help pay for the meds and expenses.
Since that day I say never that is my choice.
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Living here a number of years back I was seeing a regular older provider she was from Bangkok originally and tagged along once a week when I traveled from Pattaya to Bangkok to play some sports. One trip we met up with her younger sister for dinner through the dinner I was just told she is " mai Sabai " I know the signs so I spoke up and ask her the response was dead silence from both of them and then a reply how did I know?
That night shock me to the core the stories I heard from her and other providers she knew had me shaking my head. She and friends of her felt lost outcast no money no resources and with their little education which breeds ignorance, she was working freelancing even going bareback because they had lost hope didn't care since they felt they got it from foreigners now was going to give it back. I was told there were girls from Pattaya coming to Bangkok to work and Bangkok to Pattaya and guess what she and some of her friends were working on Sukhumvit and T.
Thereafter I provided her sister with some resources in Chon Buri to obtain treatment and her meds, I still keep in touch with the older sister and her younger sister is back up the farm no one knows in her family or friends. Every two or three months because she doesn't want people to see her entering the local hospital where she lives comes down to Chon Buri to obtain them and while here she works Freelance to help pay for the meds and expenses.
Since that day I say never that is my choice.Did that lady ever say how she thought she got HIV in the first place? Was it from having unprotected anal sex with an HIV-Positive man? That would be, by far, the most likely scenario for a woman getting it through sex. A man who acquired HIV via unprotected receptive anal sex himself, through a tainted blood transfusion or sharing needles with someone who was HIV-Positive, that is. Unless she got it through some method other than sexual intercourse.
Thankfully, if her and her fellow HIV-Positive (?) prostitutes' plan was to go "bareback because they had lost hope didn't care since they felt they got it from foreigners now was going to give it back," a woman giving it to a man that way is so rare as to be virtually unheard of unless there is an extraordinary co-factor that generally wouldn't exist in most normal 2-3 time sexual encounters. Consequently, their plan didn't work. I know of no international study revealing a notable rate of HIV transmission from female to male acquired in the lower Sukhumvit area of Bangkok for the past 40+ years. Or even as many as a few.
Franciscass
03-31-20, 08:45
The conservative elements in Europe are strong and it would be very difficult for the advocates of P4P there to persuade the authorities to get back into the business of body to body contact. Again, I hope I am wrong.
How much of a decline in p4p in Asia there will be I find it hard to predict. However, Asians are much more prone to clamping down on p4p than Latin Americans. Look at Singapore, Malaysia and China, where p4p is just a shadow of what it once was. Who is to say that the same can't happen in Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia?I feel you can divide right wing ideologues into political and religious. The first bunch are no angels when it comes to paying for sex, the second lot however are different and no matter what their religion will always see sex outside of marriage as a moral aberration.
Fortunately outside of some whacky Islamic countries and some dysfunctional localities of advanced countries so called bible belts they really don't have a lot of influence.
My own opinion is that if there are to be changes arising from this pandemic they will be based not on moral issues more on health issues. After the aids crisis safe sex became the norm well it did for most people, after this I can see kissing becoming more of a no no. Personally for a while now I have ruled out kissing and being up close to a girls face making physical contact a little awkward but it works for me.
So a possible future, along with STD tests results punters and providers will have immunization certs or antibody results showing they have had the virus and are now safe to be with.
This could be all BS and in a couple of months or so it will be business as usual, "but me cola I go with you."
LittleBigMan
03-31-20, 09:46
Did that lady ever say how she thought she got HIV in the first place? Was it from having unprotected anal sex with an HIV-Positive man? That would be, by far, the most likely scenario for a woman getting it through sex. A man who acquired HIV via unprotected receptive anal sex himself, through a tainted blood transfusion or sharing needles with someone who was HIV-Positive, that is. Unless she got it through some method other than sexual intercourse.
Thankfully, if her and her fellow HIV-Positive (?) prostitutes' plan was to go "bareback because they had lost hope didn't care since they felt they got it from foreigners now was going to give it back," a woman giving it to a man that way is so rare as to be virtually unheard of unless there is an extraordinary co-factor that generally wouldn't exist in most normal 2-3 time sexual encounters. Consequently, their plan didn't work. I know of no international study revealing a notable rate of HIV transmission from female to male acquired in the lower Sukhumvit area of Bangkok for the past 40+ years. Or even as many as a few.Hey, I'm not here to debate with you about Stats because I have none. You and others are grown men will do or believe whatever to justify what is being done whether you go bareback or not I learned this first hand from my first wife and heard it from co-workers who I work with and die during my tenor.
As for Thailand the ladies you need to remember the education the ignorance and prejudice Thais show to others even their own is the reason they don't disclose to anyone.
Those even today they get shunned outcast. Two years ago, in Chon Buri there was a story a fight to save a home for orphan children who had aids passed on by their parents because neighbors felt they would get the transmission.
Just my conversation from the sister I have no idea what her sex habits were just that she was a Freelancer working in Bangkok like many got pregnant early the Thai kid left as soon as thing got tough. To feed her kid she went to work as far as I can tell had no other relation with another Thai man all her customers were foreigners that included Asian assumption she could have gotten from any one of those customers. The fact regardless of how she does have it and kept working so to feed and raise money for herself and her kid. What shock me was she never got any help until it was really bad and of course, at a local hospital, it was only a few weeks after diagnoses I met her.
You seem to forget and looking for some reason but it is a shame to have it they aren't going to announce it or go into some study to let others know. They are outcast from their own reason so many don't obtain their HIV medication in the province they live in and travel far like the sister to Chon Buri to obtain her meds so no one will know her.
I also don't know whether her continue working when she had HIV before or after diagnosed whether any of her customers got infected what I do know and I don't need to look up stats it is an easy choice for me whatever choice you make that is yours to make. I'm not here to change your mind or targeting you I think you have already made the decision all I can say is do what you have been doing that works for you. Stay safe and enjoy.
Hey, I'm not here to debate with you about Stats because I have none. You and others are grown men will do or believe whatever to justify what is being done whether you go bareback or not I learned this first hand from my first wife and heard it from co-workers who I work with and die during my tenor.
...I'm not here to debate the stats either. I just asked a simple followup question that might be pertinent to whether or not anyone reading your posts and took a girl on Sukhumvit or from T (Thermae?) ought to be alarmed about an intentional attempt to give them HIV. But, as I said, in a way that would prove to be extremely ineffective.
Franciscass
03-31-20, 11:53
I'm not here to debate the stats either. I just asked a simple followup question that might be pertinent to whether or not anyone reading your posts and took a girl on Sukhumvit or from T (Thermae?) ought to be alarmed about an intentional attempt to give them HIV. But, as I said, in a way that would prove to be extremely ineffective.With respect ET why not just accept that lots of people don't agree with your position on BBFS and stop trying to justify it over and over again. Otherwise the back and forth goes on forever. This is your choice and if you find partners that are willing to give you what you need, then no issues, its between consenting adults etc etc. And OK I get it, mind my own business. Stay safe.
LittleBigMan
03-31-20, 12:27
I'm not here to debate the stats either. I just asked a simple followup question that might be pertinent to whether or not anyone reading your posts and took a girl on Sukhumvit or from T (Thermae?) ought to be alarmed about an intentional attempt to give them HIV. But, as I said, in a way that would prove to be extremely ineffective.In many ways whether you think or not you are! I wrote a report expressed an opinion from my own experience whether you believe it or not that is up to you and anyone else who has read it as I noted you all are grown-ups. It is just a report I felt like writing since I'm a bit bored today. Like any report, you can read it ignore or attempt to prove to be extremely ineffective that is your choice!
I will end by saying when people are desperate and hurt here in Thailand they just think a bit backward and people do stupid things and stupid things don't have to be intentional or rational. As I noted people will do what they want to do and have a justification for it in your case you believe it is proven to be extremely ineffective which is your right to believe.
Where are you guys getting it from that people around here are desperate and starving? 500 baht ST was the normal price before tourists came fucking it up. Now that the tourists are gone, I see it as prices going back to normal.
I paid 40 baht for a bowl of chicken and noodles at a noodle restaurant the other day. So 500 baht would get a person 12 meals. 2 nights ago I stayed at a chick's place in Pattaya where they had a sign up, "Monthly Rental 2,500 baht". Keep things in perspective. Living here is not nearly expensive as it is where we are from, yet somehow P4P prices get jacked up.
Like ET, all the messages I am receiving from chicks are saying they are bored. I have not received 1 message from a chick saying they were on the street starving.Mr. E, I just got another series of Line messages from the FL who said she was hungry and wanted to meet me. It turns out she used the "I'm hungry" opener because when I met her before I bought her dinner in Artbox and she associates me with a "dinner date" as well as a potential source of income. LOL.
This time it was all about how she wants to meet me because she is SO BORED sitting in her room. She asked me how many regular girls I see. I threw out 4-5 with a couple being non P4P girls, real girlfriends. She asked what it would take for her to be one of my regular repeat GF-style girls.
I told her the Big Three ways to gain entrance into that club. She said, "Yes, I will do all of that for you, anything you want." Not because she is hungry so much as because she is so bored and wants to be out doing something, anything for a change.
I also don't think many punters here and elsewhere get how much that boredom is an important additional motivation for them leaving "boring grandmas and babies" in their province to work P4P for much bigger and easier money in Bangkok and Pattaya.
The 2-3 better-looking ones who might actually be (closed) Thermae refugees desperate to see it they can scrounge up a customer on the street these days, totally ignored me as I passed by, did not smile back at me after I smiled at them, did not utter a word of response to my Hello, nothing. LOL. Just as if they were still standing in Thermae waiting for a stray Asian customer to pass by on these otherwise desolate streets. Amazing. Well, I suppose it is comforting to know certain traditions never fade.Because their too fucking stupid to know any better. Once their baht dries up and see the severe lack of Japanese or Any Asian customers who frequent Thermae, they'll come swooning for your services. Not saying you could be a potential opportunist. Buuuuuut!. Seriously though, is it even worth your time messing with those airheads?. You'll just end up getting a 'cold starfish' in the bedroom.
Like ET, all the messages I am receiving from chicks are saying they are bored. I have not received 1 message from a chick saying they were on the street starving.And when you think about it, if they were on the street starving, then one would be unlikely to know it since. Well. They would be on the street starving, and not exchanging messages by computer! As long as they're doing that, they're not on the street starving, and full of shit if they say they are. Think about it men. Now, times may be hard. They may even be hungry. But, they aren't on the street starving, and not likely to ever be either.
Because their too fucking stupid to know any better. Once their baht dries up and see the severe lack of Japanese or Any Asian customers who frequent Thermae, they'll come swooning for your services. Not saying you could be a potential opportunist. Buuuuuut!. Seriously though, is it even worth your time messing with those airheads?. You'll just end up getting a 'cold starfish' in the bedroom.That last question of yours is the key. Honestly, even though I make the rounds to and from my nearby apartment on a nearly daily or nightly basis to monitor the situation, I am usually on my way to a pre set appointment with a much better girl or just coming back from having been with one and walked her to the bts, mrt or a taxi. Consequently, I have neither the time nor the shot left in me to take a new girl up on her offer. At that time.
She or her offer would have to be especially tempting and difficult to refuse. And even then I would probably just take her Line info and file it in my "To Do Someday" folder. That comes into play when a favorite repeat decides she misses mom enough to head back to her province until her Bkk bar reopens or when one gets a temporary job during this lockdown that screws up her convenient free time to visit me. Both of which happened today.
So I will open that "To Do Someday" folder in a couple of days, after one of my regular, non P4P girlfriends laying next to me now goes back to her tea shop job on Thursday morning.
Crocodilexp
03-31-20, 18:36
Where are you guys getting it from that people around here are desperate and starving? 500 baht ST was the normal price before tourists came fucking it up.
There's nothing wrong with paying 500 baht for ST. In some local low-end scenes for Thais, that was the price for years and still is. In the last few years, a one-and-done with the vast majority of PFP girls in the Farang scene been worth no more than 500-1000 baht anyway, regardless of how much they ask, and how much some tourists pay.
However, there's plenty wrong with making girls go bareback and compromising their health. Covid-19 might be unavoidable except by 100% abstinence, but HIV is easily preventable with condoms.
There's nothing wrong with paying 500 baht for ST. In some local low-end scenes for Thais, that was the price for years and still is. In the last few years, a one-and-done with the vast majority of PFP girls in the Farang scene been worth no more than 500-1000 baht anyway, regardless of how much they ask, and how much some tourists pay.
However, there's plenty wrong with making girls go bareback and compromising their health. Covid-19 might be unavoidable except by 100% abstinence, but HIV is easily preventable with condoms.Are we somehow drifting into a mindset where Covid-19 is considered a sexually transmitted or related disease, which it is not?
Nobody on the planet who has become infected with or died from Covid-19 needed to have had sex with the carrier to get it. Or to have ever had sex with anyone in their lives (100% abstinence). Or to be naked near one. Or to even touch a carrier. It wasn't even necessary to be within a close enough proximity of a carrier to have a droplet from a cough or sneeze land on you.
In fact, the "carrier" of the virus might never have met someone sick from it or be sick from it himself.
Once the virus is on someone's clothes, their face mask or furniture, thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.
Once the virus is on someone's clothes, their face mask or furniture, thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.Please provide the source. Thanks.
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Mr Enternational
04-01-20, 09:19
thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.But air does not sit still. It constantly moves around. So are we to believe the covid suspends itself in mid-space for hours without moving with the air? Or is it that infected Joe can breathe covid out down the street and it reaches me 200 meters away in 20 minutes with the movement of the air?
Please provide the source. Thanks.
SS.You can jump ahead to 2:45 where the actual questions and answers section begins. Dr. Fauci discusses the airborne/aerosol issue at 3:45. He does not dismiss it as a means of transmission at all. Instead, he allows it as a perfectly viable way for a virus like this to linger in the air and infect people, similar to but perhaps not as long lasting in the air as the measles virus.
https://youtu.be/F2YKKba6ps0
You can jump ahead to 2:45 where the actual questions and answers section begins. Dr. Fauci discusses the airborne/aerosol issue at 3:45. He does not dismiss it as a means of transmission at all. Instead, he allows it as a perfectly viable way for a virus like this to linger in the air and infect people, similar to but perhaps not as long lasting in the air as the measles virus.
https://youtu.be/F2YKKba6ps0Some interesting info, some of which has been "out there" for a bit of time and some new to me. Good source and glad to hear things aren't as apocalyptic as you made it seem. I can crawl out from under my bed now. LOL Thanks for the link.
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Crocodilexp
04-01-20, 20:10
Are we somehow drifting into a mindset where Covid-19 is considered a sexually transmitted or related disease, which it is not?
It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.
Some interesting info, some of which has been "out there" for a bit of time and some new to me. Good source and glad to hear things aren't as apocalyptic as you made it seem. I can crawl out from under my bed now. LOL Thanks for the link.
SS.How is what I posted about the aerosol version of transmission so different than what Fauci said about it in that video?
It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.
P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.
In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.
And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.
I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.
John Clayton
04-02-20, 03:11
...In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant...Probably, mostly but interestingly, Dutch scientists have found, ". SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is often excreted in an infected person's stool. ". Not likely to be a primary means of infection, but detectable:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/coronavirus-in-sewage-portended-covid-19-outbreak-in-dutch-city
My point is, we don't know yet how the virus is shed or how people are infected. Cum could be part of it...
The important thing about infectivity that most epidemiologists ignore is viral load. A small exposure you can maybe fight off. but spending hours fucking, kissing, sweating, eating an infected person...!
Probably, mostly but interestingly, Dutch scientists have found, ". SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is often excreted in an infected person's stool. ". Not likely to be a primary means of infection, but detectable:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/coronavirus-in-sewage-portended-covid-19-outbreak-in-dutch-cityAh, that would definitely mean the end of Rim Jobs.
The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.
In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.
And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.
I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.Might as well save the money and wank. Man, this is just awful.
How is what I posted about the aerosol version of transmission so different than what Fauci said about it in that video?Your version seemed a bit apocalyptic compared to the doctor's. A lot of variables involved and I'm sure many which are not fully explored and vetted. The good doctor must rely on his knowledge / experience associated with similar viruses, since COVID 19 is a new one. Accordingly, some of his information must rest solely on that, while some may be pure speculation. I have noted that, when delivering his briefings, he does "footnote" some of his statements on occasion. But, to get back to your question a tab more directly, your inclusion of a "particle" being on a piece of furniture and then ending up in one's respiratory system seems (to me) to be nearly impossible. Maybe I read it incorrectly. If so, please disregard.
Thanks again for the link. I like the doctor's briefings; I find him "authentic" and "authoritative".
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Franciscass
04-02-20, 10:21
Might as well save the money and wank. Man, this is just awful.Reminds me of the scene from Naked Gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_BPDi8Ems
The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin.............Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.
Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.Methinks you are right. I'll never pay for that.
Crocodilexp
04-02-20, 15:54
P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.
In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.
Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.Haha it actually reminded me of an experience I had last year in warsaw. Yes, it was horrible LOL.
Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.
In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.There was never a moment when in the LOS that I failed to appreciate how wildly great the opportunities were, as if too good to be true. Would it last? Could it last? What if it changed, drastically? I hope for the best but accept that may never be the same. Beyond the financial brutal financial impact, the social impact and p2 p are difficult to envision.
Careful and reconsider looking on the black side of things. It may be glum just now and your missing the pussy. But thing is once this has passed and it will, it will be back to the way it was.
Thailand has a heavy resilience on the sex industry. It draws people in. Take away that sex tourisim then you will lose a lot of the trade that comes. That won't happen. Those conservative politicians know where the money comes from to float the economy and its not going to jepordise that. Once covid is out the way the place will be teaming again.
HorseTrader
04-02-20, 22:20
Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.
In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.
Careful and reconsider looking on the black side of things. It may be glum just now and your missing the pussy. But thing is once this has passed and it will, it will be back to the way it was.
Thailand has a heavy resilience on the sex industry. It draws people in. Take away that sex tourisim then you will lose a lot of the trade that comes. That won't happen. Those conservative politicians know where the money comes from to float the economy and its not going to jepordise that. Once covid is out the way the place will be teaming again.Those are two widely different projections for the distant future. Perhaps Crocodilexp is right, but I sure hope he is wrong. Both my big and little head is predicting that Hornyscot is right.
I see two powerful forces that will push for revival of the sex industry. First, the owners of hospitality industry businesses will push very hard for P4P industry (restaurants, bars, hotels, taxi, tours). Pattaya would almost disappear without the P4P money. Patong is more family friendly, but there is still a huge number of people that come for the P4P. Even the more relaxed resort areas, such as Koh Samui, gain much business from tourists who come for P4P. Second, the many farm communities of Issan derive a good chunk of income from their daughters who send money home each month from P4P proceeds. To make it all tie together, many Thai people see nothing wrong with the P4P industry as long as it is done to support family.
Thailand is a poor nation and without P4P it will be much worse. Many Thai people are not well educated and their skills are limited. Industries such as automotive, electronics, and farming will not be able to pick up the slack. Thailand's only choice will be to continue support of the P4P industry or become poorer and poorer.
Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.
In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.I remember mongering in the 1970's and 80's before the AIDS pandemic, sex without a condom was unheard of, everything was on the table and the girls had zero inhibition. AIDS changed all that forever. Adjusting to condom use was hard and banging a hooker was accompanied with a lot of anxiety. If non-mongers knew you were shagging prostitutes they would think you were crazy. In fact the image of mongers sunk to its lowest level. Fast forward to 2020 with a pandemic that is much worse than AIDS at its peak. To think that it will not significantly affect our hobby is serious denial. Recent figures coming out of the US have been swift slaps to my face and I am making mental adjustments to avoid anguish.
Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.
In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.Your second paragraph sums it up nicely. I imagine that exact issue is being talked about and is likely what will happen.
Careful and reconsider looking on the black side of things. It may be glum just now and your missing the pussy. But thing is once this has passed and it will, it will be back to the way it was.
Thailand has a heavy resilience on the sex industry. It draws people in. Take away that sex tourisim then you will lose a lot of the trade that comes. That won't happen. Those conservative politicians know where the money comes from to float the economy and its not going to jepordise that. Once covid is out the way the place will be teaming again.It's really is less than you think. Two decades ago you might have been correct. But today the vast majority of tourists have no interest in p4 p.
It's really is less than you think. Two decades ago you might have been correct. But today the vast majority of tourists have no interest in p4 p.I concur. Vast majority of tourists to Thailand are not interested in girls. In fact they come with female company. They are there to take in the culture, sights, relaxation, beach etc. You might see many walking, seeing, visiting girlie bars but that is out of curiosity because sex is in your face. Quite a few are really afraid to touch any of the working girls because of catching some diseases.
Thailand is a cheap tropical destination for people all over the world especially for Europeans. Spain used to be before they joined Eurozone.
Worst case scenario imo is the online dating site scene expands and dominates. Thai girls will still over spend on discretionary items and activities; shoes, clothes, phones, make up, lottery tickets, partying, boyfriend support, etc, will still be underpaid in their regular jobs and will always want and need more and easy money to make ends meet.
Some will pitch themselves online as outright Freelancers with no pretense about looking for one special man rather than the next customer. More will pitch themselves as "looking for a serious, long term relationship."
That latter group is where the classic Short Time session culture will suffer among punters who prefer it. She/They will expect you to live alone in an established residence unless your game is that you are in Thailand temporarily, staying in a hotel, primarily in order to meet her and give her a test drive before committing to a more serious, long term relationship.
If I were an expat already living with a girlfriend or wife but still wanting to score some of that online dating site action on the side, I would look into renting a second small apartment in a convenient location but not in an area where my path would cross wifey's and use that as my dating site girl destination. But you will need to come up with an excuse for no overnights with the new ladies if you must show your face at your first residence before midnight.
Best arrangement for anyone who wants to do just fine with a steady stream of different girls on a daily and weekly basis even if all the go-go bars, beer bars with girls, massage shops and soapies disappeared tomorrow is to live alone in a pleasant residence easy walking distance from a bts or mrt station.
Oh, and you might want to get a vasectomy and always have a current negative blood check document for a couple of the biggies on hand.
Engine Driver
04-03-20, 03:18
Thailand is a poor nation and without P4P it will be much worse. Many Thai people are not well educated and their skills are limited. Industries such as automotive, electronics, and farming will not be able to pick up the slack. Thailand's only choice will be to continue support of the P4P industry or become poorer and poorer.Actually, P4P contributes a minuscule amount to the GDP of both Thailand and Philippines and neither is reliant on it. Mongers always overestimate the contribution they are making to the economy (usually by a factor of 100). Legitimate, non-sexual tourism is a significant money earner, but not P4P in isolation. This is why the Thai or Philippines governments couldn't really care whether P4P exists or closes. Many of the restrictions to the hooker scene over the past 10-15 years were to appease the conservatives in the US so they could get their hands on aid money.
Most P4P businesses are actually fronts for other illicit activities. If P4P closed, they would take those activities elsewhere.
I remember mongering in the 1970's and 80's before the AIDS pandemic, sex without a condom was unheard of, everything was on the table and the girls had zero inhibition...<snipped>I think you meant "sex with a condom" was almost unheard of. Anyway, getting the clap in the 70's was probably the biggest threat to going without protection. Interestingly, bareback fucking was par for the course, while blow jobs could be often refused. In the 80's, HIV / AIDS became the issue of concern. I remember sitting in Soi Cowboy bars and having Dr. Condom sometimes entering a venue with a few associates and handing out condoms to the girls. Sometimes he would be followed by a news crew with cameras and lights recording the scene. It would be on Thai TV later that night or the next night. Talk about panic among the girls. They couldn't get off the stage and into a dark corner or a bathroom fast enough. LOL Still, after the bar returned to normal, many of the girls were laughing and blowing up the condoms like balloons and tossing them around the bar. I was in Soi Cowboy one night in the late 80's when ½ of Cowboy as taken over by Dr. Condom with all sorts of information tables set up in the middle of the street. A couple of carnival-like games were also used to attract the girls and mongers. Naturally, condoms to the "winners". Yet, the girls were still routinely going bareback without any mention of covering our dicks.
By the early 90's, the reality of AIDS had pretty much been established. Enough girls had seen some of their friends / colleagues contract the disease and the consequences. Even Isan farm girls appreciated what was happening around the world. One dancer from Surin, for instance, mentioned NBA player Magic Johnson and his acquisition of AIDS. While it wasn't going to keep the girls from plying their trade, gradually more and more demanded that we cover up. Mercifully, President Bill Clinton and his young intern gained world-wide attention due to a substance on Monica Lewinski's famous "blue dress". Almost overnight (well, within a few very short years), a lot of girls actually seemed to prefer giving uncovered blow jobs to fucking. Who would have thought? Thank you Bill and Monica. LOL.
Nobody really knows what the impact of COVID-19 will have on the future of mongering in Asia. We can all speculate ad infin. It might be that the year 2000 BC will be 20 BC (Before Covid). The idea that this virus ends the world's oldest profession seems pretty far-fetched. Business models and practices change all of the time for all sorts of products and services.
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Mr Enternational
04-03-20, 04:42
Actually, P4P contributes a minuscule amount to the GDP of both Thailand and Philippines and neither is reliant on it. Mongers always overestimate the contribution they are making to the economy (usually by a factor of 100).This article from the other day says that 4-10% of GDP is because of the 300,000 involved in P4P.
https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai-government-screws-sex-workers-over-5000-baht-stimulus
CzarNicholas
04-03-20, 04:53
By the early 90's, the reality of AIDS had pretty much been established. Enough girls had seen some of their friends / colleagues contract the disease and the consequences. Even Isan farm girls appreciated what was happening around the world. One dancer from Surin, for instance, mentioned NBA player Magic Johnson and his acquisition of AIDS. While it wasn't going to keep the girls from plying their trade, gradually more and more demanded that we cover up. Mercifully, President Bill Clinton and his young intern gained world-wide attention due to a substance on Monica Lewinski's famous "blue dress". Almost overnight (well, within a few very short years), a lot of girls actually seemed to prefer giving uncovered blow jobs to fucking. Who would have thought? Thank you Bill and Monica. LOL.
Nobody really knows what the impact of COVID-19 will have on the future of mongering in Asia. We can all speculate ad infin. It might be that the year 2000 BC will be 20 BC (Before Covid). The idea that this virus ends the world's oldest profession seems pretty far-fetched. Business models and practices change all of the time for all sorts of products and services.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/sex-workers-feared-to-be-spreading-coronavirus-in-japan/
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I remember sitting in Soi Cowboy bars and having Dr. Condom sometimes entering a venue with a few associates and handing out condoms to the girls. Sometimes he would be followed by a news crew with cameras and lights recording the scene. It would be on Thai TV later that night or the next night. Talk about panic among the girls. They couldn't get off the stage and into a dark corner or a bathroom fast enough. LOL Still, after the bar returned to normal, many of the girls were laughing and blowing up the condoms like balloons and tossing them around the bar. I was in Soi Cowboy one night in the late 80's when of Cowboy as taken over by Dr. Condom with all sorts of information tables set up in the middle of the street. A couple of carnival-like games were also used to attract the girls and mongers. Naturally, condoms to the "winners". Yet, the girls were still routinely going bareback without any mention of covering our dicks.
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SS.His original drive to push condom use was to reduce the Thai birthrate, having determined that too many kids in the family caused poverty. For that purpose, reducing Thai poverty, his personal charm, ambitions and political connections would have been put to much better use spearheading an effort to establish a national Social Security System in Thailand to make sure grandma, grandpa, mom, dad, uncle and aunt would not need to live with or rely on their grown kids to keep them alive and well after age 65. Consequently, now the birth rate in Thailand has decreased, there is still no national Social Security System in Thailand and grandma, grandpa, mom, dad, uncle and aunt are relying on just a couple of their grown kids to shoulder that responsibility instead of 6.
Meanwhile, I have yet to see a historical chart or study concluding that men having sex with men was not then and is not now the most significant sexual behavior, by far, for sexual transmission of HIV. And even in that behavior, not everything men did with men was statistically significantly risky. In fact, pretty much only one sexual act. And only to the one person on the receiving end of that one sexual act. Which then could eventually be exported to women who also engaged in that same act unprotected or vaginal sex with men who, sexually, would almost exclusively have gotten it from receptive anal sex (obviously, with a man).
It would have been nice if Dr. Condom had been just a wee bit more specific about who ought to be using condoms 100% of the time and for which particular specialized sexual act instead of suggesting it was necessary for everyone, anything and everything at all times, no exceptions.
Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html
Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.
His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.I'll go out on a limb here and suggest you can reasonably substitute the words "protective gear" with "a carrier's sports jacket" and "floors" with "furniture" in the case where a carrier or carriers have previously deposited those tiny aerosolized droplets on them. The virus particles can apparently survive for hours on some surfaces and, therefore, have a huge window of opportunity for them to be stirred up into the breathable air.
And if you think of the particles of dust you see hanging in the air when sunlight streams into a room, these virus particles are much tinier than those dust particles and might even be hitching a ride on them. Also, in real world conditions vs static, controlled lab test conditions, those particles get stirred up and re-enter the breathable air every time someone walks through a room, plops down on a couch, pulls back the drapes, opens and closes a cabinet door and so on. Or, in a restaurant, every time a server passed by your table after the woman over there flipped back her hair. Probably a ladyboy.
However, this does not fill me with alarm. Something quite the opposite, in fact. Assuming this is true, that means most of us have been exposed to COVID-19 much more often than we thought, have been introducing at least small amounts of it into our respiratory systems perhaps countless times in the past few months and yet a relative few of us have fallen prey to it and gotten sick from it.
Engine Driver
04-03-20, 09:39
This article from the other day says that 4-10% of GDP is because of the 300,000 involved in P4P.
https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai-government-screws-sex-workers-over-5000-baht-stimulusIt always amuses me when mongers from White Man Land arrive in Bangkok or Pattaya, buy two ladies' drinks in some go go bar, and think they are single handedly propping up the Thai economy. Economists they are not.
Manufacturing is by far the largest GDP contributor (autos, electronics, machinery, chemicals). Oil, non-mongering tourism and agriculture also rate highly. Mongering is a microscopic dot.
You're reference doesn't seem too credible. This reference below tells me the facts we need to know.
https://www.motor1.com/reviews/242383/compare-chevy-camaro-ford-mustang/
Franciscass
04-03-20, 09:47
This article from the other day says that 4-10% of GDP is because of the 300,000 involved in P4P.
https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai-government-screws-sex-workers-over-5000-baht-stimulusHi Mr E,
I can understand living in Pattaya in particular, Lower Sukhumvit or Patong could easily have the impression P4P is a significant piece of the Thai economy but I very much doubt the 4 to 10% cited. The source is Empower Foundation, an organization for the rights and opportunities for sex workers across Thailand and like every advocacy group they will tend to exaggerate to make their point. That said there is no doubting that many thousands of girls are feeling the pinch as a result of the shutdown and as I have said earlier and I say it again those of us who use their services and are in a position to do should where possible help out some of girls we may know. Yes, they are not dying from hunger but lots of them live from trick to trick and don't save. Yes some foolishly overspend on makeup, clothes and accessories but that doesn't mean they should be punished for it now that they have nothing to fall back on.
Stay safe.
I think you meant "sex with a condom" was almost unheard of. Anyway, getting the clap in the 70's was probably the biggest threat to going without protection. Interestingly, bareback fucking was par for the course, while blow jobs could be often refused. In the 80's, HIV / AIDS became the issue of concern. I remember sitting in Soi Cowboy bars and having Dr. Condom sometimes entering a venue with a few associates and handing out condoms to the girls. Sometimes he would be followed by a news crew with cameras and lights recording the scene. It would be on Thai TV later that night or the next night. Talk about panic among the girls. They couldn't get off the stage and into a dark corner or a bathroom fast enough. LOL Still, after the bar returned to normal, many of the girls were laughing and blowing up the condoms like balloons and tossing them around the bar. I was in Soi Cowboy one night in the late 80's when of Cowboy as taken over by Dr. Condom with all sorts of information tables set up in the middle of the street. A couple of carnival-like games were also used to attract the girls and mongers. Naturally, condoms to the "winners". Yet, the girls were still routinely going bareback without any mention of covering our dicks.
By the early 90's, the reality of AIDS had pretty much been established. Enough girls had seen some of their friends / colleagues contract the disease and the consequences. Even Isan farm girls appreciated what was happening around the world. One dancer from Surin, for instance, mentioned NBA player Magic Johnson and his acquisition of AIDS. While it wasn't going to keep the girls from plying their trade, gradually more and more demanded that we cover up. Mercifully, President Bill Clinton and his young intern gained world-wide attention due to a substance on Monica Lewinski's famous "blue dress". Almost overnight (well, within a few very short years), a lot of girls actually seemed to prefer giving uncovered blow jobs to fucking. Who would have thought? Thank you Bill and Monica. LOL.
Nobody really knows what the impact of COVID-19 will have on the future of mongering in Asia. We can all speculate ad infin. It might be that the year 2000 BC will be 20 BC (Before Covid). The idea that this virus ends the world's oldest profession seems pretty far-fetched. Business models and practices change all of the time for all sorts of products and services.
SS.Definitely meant sex with a condom was unheard of before AIDS. Magic Johnson's diagnosis scared the shit out of me and forced me to cover up. I had problems initially but eventually got used to it. Now I will have to get used to no DFK, no DATY, no kissing any part of girl's body, if shagging a working girl.
Member #4698
04-03-20, 15:45
Now I will have to get used to no DFK, no DATY, no kissing any part of girl's body, if shagging a working girl.That is BS. In all probability there will be plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's & BBFS if you want it just like before Wuhan. This ain't like AIDS at all. I don't pay much attention to the gloom and doom boys. They love talking trash about the recent present (everything since 2014) and the future. According to them it was only good 20 years ago.
Just got an SOS this morning from my sexy little Plan B girl. I haven't decided if I will respond and send her a little $$$ or not. She is a damn cutie and we did everything I wanted in the past and I will bet my hard earned money we will do everything I want in the future. And she is just one of thousands in MNL, BKK, Pat, and CGK waiting for the good times to roll again. The current malaise will end. Yes, some establishments won't make it, but P4P will survive and flourish. It is human nature combined with economic reality.
Meanwhile, I have yet to see a historical chart or study concluding that men having sex with men was not then and is not now the most significant sexual behavior, by far, for sexual transmission of HIV. And even in that behavior, not everything men did with men was statistically significantly risky. In fact, pretty much only one sexual act. And only to the one person on the receiving end of that one sexual act. Which then could eventually be exported to women who also engaged in that same act unprotected or vaginal sex with men who, sexually, would almost exclusively have gotten it from receptive anal sex (obviously, with a man).
In Tanzania in the mid 2000's 15% of the adult population had HIV. Where I was working there was voluntary testing and 8% tested positive. The infections were well outside the gay man community.
That is BS. In all probability there will be plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's & BBFS if you want it just like before Wuhan. This ain't like AIDS at all. I don't pay much attention to the gloom and doom boys. They love talking down the present and the future. According to them it was only good 20 years ago.
Just got an SOS this morning from my sexy little Plan B girl. I haven't decided if I will respond and send her a little $$$ or not. She is a damn cutie and we did everything I wanted in the past and I will bet my hard earned money we will do everything I want in the future. And she is just one of hundreds in MNL, BKK, Pat, and CGK waiting for the good times to roll again. The current malaise will end. Yes, some establishments won't make it, but P4P will survive and flourish. It is human nature.What he said! People are acting like this is the first time in the history of mankind that something like this has happened. It is not, and it won't be the last. In a hundred years when another global disease strikes, people will be talking about the great pandemic of 2020. In the meantime, things always, always, always come back! Including pay 4 pussy. And as long as the sun keeps rising they always will. Enough with the gloom and doom already!
Please provide the source. Thanks.
SS.
Here is an article from the New England Journal of Medicine.
Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973
Here is another article. I can't find the medical article for this piece of information. I had seen it yesterday.
You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/you-may-be-able-spread-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds
Here is an excellent map of Covid-19 cases in Thailand.
https://covidtracker.5lab.co/
Please stay home everyone and keep Thailand safe. The less people moving around will keep the curve low.
Just got an SOS this morning from my sexy little Plan B girl. I haven't decided if I will respond and send her a little $$$ or not. .Send money if you believe her. I have asked my P4 P girlfriends whether they are ok financially. I don't have a lot of money (a couple of thousand in the bank) but I don't want anyone going hungry. They have all responded that they are ok.
I had to send regular friends money in NYC and Miami. They responded no but after they got my money, both called me with much calmer voices. I could hear the anxiety in their voices of these two tough men. My friend in NYC only had a week of food left.
This is for real in America now. Please stay home and spare Thailand the same pain.
Mr Enternational
04-03-20, 18:57
And she is just one of thousands in MNL, BKK, Pat, and CGK waiting for the good times to roll again. The current malaise will end. Yes, some establishments won't make it, but P4P will survive and flourish. It is human nature combined with economic reality.Of course there will always be P4P. The question is what form will it be in. Some guys are less inclined if there is no bar or gogo for them to be able to pick chicks out of.
Mr Enternational
04-03-20, 19:05
Send money if you believe her. I have asked my P4 P girlfriends whether they are ok financially. I don't have a lot of money (a couple of thousand in the bank) but I don't want anyone going hungry. They have all responded that they are ok.Nobody is going to go hungry. They even set up places to give out free food.
Also you can get 1.5L of water from the machine for 1 baht. And the machines actually have the best water. I did a test and the machine came out to 7ppm. Crystal bottled water came out to 21ppm. And the water from my bathroom faucet came out to 178ppm. It is all safe to drink up to 500ppm.
CzarNicholas
04-03-20, 19:40
I'll go out on a limb here and suggest you can reasonably substitute the words "protective gear" with "a carrier's sports jacket" and "floors" with "furniture" in the case where a carrier or carriers have previously deposited those tiny aerosolized droplets on them. The virus particles can apparently survive for hours on some surfaces and, therefore, have a huge window of opportunity for them to be stirred up into the breathable air.
And if you think of the particles of dust you see hanging in the air when sunlight streams into a room, these virus particles are much tinier than those dust particles and might even be hitching a ride on them. Also, in real world conditions vs static, controlled lab test conditions, those particles get stirred up and re-enter the breathable air every time someone walks through a room, plops down on a couch, pulls back the drapes, opens and closes a cabinet door and so on. Or, in a restaurant, every time a server passed by your table after the woman over there flipped back her hair. Probably a ladyboy.
However, this does not fill me with alarm. Something quite the opposite, in fact. Assuming this is true, that means most of us have been exposed to COVID-19 much more often than we thought, have been introducing at least small amounts of it into our respiratory systems perhaps countless times in the past few months and yet a relative few of us have fallen prey to it and gotten sick from it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/opinion/coronavirus-viral-dose.html
That is BS. In all probability there will be plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's & BBFS if you want it just like before Wuhan. This ain't like AIDS at all...........No need to get agitated, never said there will not be just as there is plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's and BBFS with hookers post AIDS.
No need to get agitated, never said there will not be just as there is plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's and BBFS with hookers post AIDS.None of those activites have diminished for me right now among the 10-12 non pros and pros I am seeing on a rotating basis during the lockdown. But most of those girls were already less susceptible to panic and irrational fears compared with many girls here. And probably even more so compared with girls who did not have the option of staying in Bangkok and fled to their provinces, where the buzz seems to be Bangkok is a festering hellhole of scary viruses and death.
That's bound to slow the arrival of new sweet young things into the Bangkok scene for a while. And when or if they do arrive either out of grinding boredom or financial need, I would not expect oral contact from DFK to BBBJ to be as freely available as it was pre Covid-19 for a while either.
Available for a surcharge? Probably. But included without need to have at least some measure of increased discussion or negotiation about it first the same as condom use pre and post HIV? It would be a pleasant surprise if that wasn't the case.
And note that the great concern and death risks to avoid as being taught to them now is not wearing masks, not maintaining a social distance and not hanging out in crowded environments. That last part being a particular challenge to the future of the go-go bar scene and conducive to the FL and online scene instead.
BackpackBrian
04-04-20, 07:18
I am not aware of any Pattaya gogo bar that still has rooms in the club. The last ones I knew were a well known dirty gogo but the rooms got shut down after a bust around 3 years ago. There was another very popular gogo bar right on Walking Street that had rooms upstairs that very few knew about. Both gogo bars still popular and open but neither has rooms any more. A BKK expert can chime in about BKK gogo bars.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4223280/British-tourist-caught-bed-prostitute.html
Try 2000 BF plus 3000ST in top Pattaya gogo bars. Cheaper in BKK gogo bars but I still don't think top gogo bars are as low as 600 baht BF. 3600 baht would be 100 euro. Cheaper than Germany FKK? Not really if you count the 70 euro to get in to a FKK like Oase, then 50 euro for half the time with no BBBJ or DFK or a 50 euro upcharge. That is still for 1 shot in most cases. What FKK has going for it is drinks and half decent food are free and you can spend on entire day there from noon til well beyond midnight.The prices you state are only for some FKK's (many outside Frankfurt are 30-40 Euro entry and 30-40 for BBBJ / sex), which like you said include really good food (Samya), sauna, etc. I was in Germany in November and I received the same service for 50 E that I received 10 years ago with many girls. BBBJ and sex with most of the girls. Yes, some, wanted 100, but I was persistent and kept negotiating and they eventually go with me with little effort. They all end up saying the same thing "OK this time 50 but next time you pay 100" haha! Just don't argue with them and keep the decibel level down when negotiating so other girls don't hear you. Many of the seasoned girls will still work for the same price, it's the younger snot nosed brats with freshly installed bolt ONS, that will demand 100 E. I usually don't go with those girls. Piece of advice from a vet monger, if you walk up to a girl in a group and announce 50 E, she and all the other girls around will get pissed. You have to look for the right moment when she's alone, talk to her, get to know her, then make your play. Tell them you want to have a good time, don't want to spend 100, but want the same service you've been getting for years. Now I'm ranting, good luck hope all this virus stuff ends soon.
BackpackBrian
04-04-20, 07:25
Really it's not so much about the girls of even price (for me). For a day of fun and relaxation FKK cannot be beat. Fuck, sauna, fuck, massage, fuck, eat, fuck, sleep, fuck. Nothing worldwide comes close for a complete body experience. Want to feel true GFE where you believe it? Or see 150 7-9's in one club? Can't beat Sao Paulo Brazil. Epic neon and more girls per square mile than anywhere else on earth then Thailand. Want to not only fuck the Gogo girls but also the waitress, barmaids, and hostesses? Moscow! Want to fuck a Romanian stunner in her own bed in her studio apt? London baby!
To me you can get pretty girls anywhere in the world. It's the variety of formats and venues that are so fun for me.Hi Steve,
"Want to not only fuck the Gogo girls but also the waitress, barmaids, and hostesses? Moscow!
Really! Are there lots of clubs like this in Moscow or are you talking about just picking up non pro girls from clubs?
If you're talking about pros, what are the prices like and do I need to speak a little Rusky?
I was thinking of going to Russia (Moscow and St. Petersburg) after the virus thing is over.
But now I can't decide between Brazil, Russia or Asia. I'll always head through Europe (Germany) on my way home though, so.
Franciscass
04-04-20, 08:37
Not for everybody but for most of us aids changed casual sex behavior forever and in my opinion this virus and the awareness of oral transmission of life threatening infections will have both providers and customers thinking twice about the so called GFE. If I understand the science and admittedly not everything is known about this strain transmission is by droplets which are exhaled by the carrier through the nose and mouth entering the recipients' body through their eyes nose or mouth. So other than kissing all the other bits and pieces BBBJ, DATY, HJ, BBFS or CFS are not methods of transmission. Somebody posted something about fecal transmission which would impact one of my own personal favorites rimming but the evidence is anecdotal at best. P4P is not going away and at least here in Thailand it's alive and well through online channels. Help where you can and stay safe.
.............And note that the great concern and death risks to avoid as being taught to them now is not wearing masks, not maintaining a social distance and not hanging out in crowded environments. That last part being a particular challenge to the future of the go-go bar scene and conducive to the FL and online scene instead.I have read where the WHO stated that there is no need to wear masks. I should be surprised if they still maintain that. Obviously, everyone is free to act as they wish. My individual choice will be to go over and beyond recommendations made by the authorities. I will wear a mask every time I leave my residence. I hope this doesn't spook anyone.
I have read where the WHO stated that there is no need to wear masks. I should be surprised if they still maintain that. Obviously, everyone is free to act as they wish. My individual choice will be to go over and beyond recommendations made by the authorities. I will wear a mask every time I leave my residence. I hope this doesn't spook anyone.You can't even find a mask in the USA Right now. Literally can't buy one. People have resorted to making masks for themselves and others at home. Some people have had family from overseas send them masks. Situation is just pathetic, including healthcare providers not having the PPE they need to protect themselves from infection. Just a plain pathetic lack of preparation and leadership in this country, at all levels. State, local, and Federal. Some people have been caught hoarding supplies.
Banana Boi
04-04-20, 15:42
I will wear a mask every time I leave my residence. Where and when were you able to find N95 masks in your country? I wasn't able to find a single N95 mask in USA and this was at the very beginning of February when I think the States only had 10 cases. I went out looking the second I figured out this was going to be like SARS.
HorseTrader
04-04-20, 16:36
I have read where the WHO stated that there is no need to wear masks. I should be surprised if they still maintain that.The USA CDC was saying the same thing until about 20 hours ago. Now Americans are encouraged to cover up with whatever homemade contraption you can make. Lots of plans available online.
The USA CDC was saying the same thing until about 20 hours ago. Now Americans are encouraged to cover up with whatever homemade contraption you can make. Lots of plans available online.Home made or surgical masks do not provide effective protection if the virus is in the air you breathe. There has been research done.
If you Have N 95 masks it offers some protection if it is right fit.
Wearing whatever masks can only offer you psychological protection.
HorseTrader
04-04-20, 16:44
Where and when were you able to find N95 masks in your country? I wasn't able to find a single N95 mask in USA and this was at the very beginning of February when I think the States only had 10 cases. I went out looking the second I figured out this was going to be like SARS.USA had many available on February 1 at medical supply houses. The disposable N95 masks were $2. 00 each, but that is not what was recommended at the time for travelers. They had boxes of 50 ASTM level 2 masks for about $20, which is what I bought for my trip to Thailand.
Those days are long past.
HorseTrader
04-04-20, 16:50
Home made or surgical masks do not provide effective protection if the virus is in the air you breathe. There has been research done.
If you Have N 95 masks it offers some protection if it is right fit.
Wearing whatever masks can only offer you psychological protection.The value of the home made or surgical masks is not to protect yourself. The point is to protect others in case you are sick (and maybe don't know it). Your coughs and sneezes are kept more local if you are wearing something over your mouth and nose. Keep in mind that USA has an extreme shortage of masks and other medical PPE. The USA government is trying to maximize the good stuff for the medical professionals.
Mr Enternational
04-04-20, 17:36
You mfs sitting at home horny are fucking up the game. There will not be any P4P left to come to after you guys are done. And some of you even have the nerve to think chicks are sitting home starving. No wonder chicks I have been trying to recruit have been turning their noses up at my 1000 baht LT offer.
I came over to spend the night at a chick's place tonight. I always give her 1000 baht LT. After we fucked she told me that it has been about a month since she has fucked. I asked why. She said she has been doing cam shows.
I asked for how much. She said 1,000 to 1,500 for 10 minutes. I asked who has been giving her that kind of money. She said guys from Europe: Germany, Spain, Norway are the countries she named. She said even some guys right here in Pattaya are sending her money for camming.
She wrote something about cam on her Thai Friendly and when a guy contacts her she gives him her paypal. After they deposit the money she does a videocall on Whatsapp or Line shows them her tits and wiggles them and shit. She showed me her paypal. It was littered with 1000's, 2000's. And I even saw one for over 3000. She said she told some guy that she did not have money to pay her room. He sent her 7,000 baht. DO NOT BE THAT GUY!
P. S. While I am writing this, she just sent some dude a picture of her tit and he said it looked so good that he was about to eat his computer. We are cracking up laughing over here under this cold AC that some lonely simp is paying for.
Christian G
04-04-20, 18:09
She wrote something about cam on her Thai Friendly and when a guy contacts her she gives him her paypal. After they deposit the money she does a videocall on Whatsapp or Line shows them her tits and wiggles them and shit. She showed me her paypal. It was littered with 1000's, 2000's. And I even saw one for over 3000. She said she told some guy that she did not have money to pay her room. He sent her 7,000 baht. DO NOT BE THAT GUY!Unfortunately there are full of wankers out there, people who pay for pics and video. Many of us are locked at home right now (me too) and I know it's hard but come on, pornhub is free! On Chaturbate you can watch live sex for free also, alot of sexy and young latinas who make lesbo show and gang bang take cocks up their holes for hours. Lovely 19 yo russian get anal fucked, etc. I really don't understand why some guys want to pay for have some selfie and video from a girl or pay for a sex videochat.
Where and when were you able to find N95 masks in your country? I wasn't able to find a single N95 mask in USA and this was at the very beginning of February when I think the States only had 10 cases. I went out looking the second I figured out this was going to be like SARS.I bought mine in Germany. TBH I really don't know exactly what type of mask it is. I was told its good quality. I bought it just before I left Frankfurt on 18 March arriving in a chaos that you guys won't imagine. Never took it off the entire trip except to drink water. I don't know the shelf life of these things, been using it since.
Not for everybody but for most of us aids changed casual sex behavior forever and in my opinion this virus and the awareness of oral transmission of life threatening infections will have both providers and customers thinking twice about the so called GFE. If I understand the science and admittedly not everything is known about this strain transmission is by droplets which are exhaled by the carrier through the nose and mouth entering the recipients' body through their eyes nose or mouth. So other than kissing all the other bits and pieces BBBJ, DATY, HJ, BBFS or CFS are not methods of transmission. Somebody posted something about fecal transmission which would impact one of my own personal favorites rimming but the evidence is anecdotal at best. P4P is not going away and at least here in Thailand it's alive and well through online channels. Help where you can and stay safe.I like to think this thing through and act accordingly. The virus can be spread via saliva. Lets say the hooker has showered and heads for the bed and for whatever reason she touches her tongue with her hands and then touches parts of her body (if she coughs or sneezes I'm out of there pronto). Couldn't the virus get to you if you kiss those parts of her body? She gives you a BBBJ or even a CBJ (just came to mind) and you touch your dick or the condom, in the heat of the action couldn't you without thinking touch your mouth, nose or eyes? Her hand with even a microscopic amount of saliva on it touches her vagina then you do DATY. After BBFS or CFS you touch your dick or the condom which have been in the vagina which has microscopic amounts of her saliva as aforementioned and without thinking your hand brushes against your mouth, nose or eyes.
Not scaremongering here guys, just thinking things through. Would be grateful if anyone can give any information that would state that a monger banging a provider who has covid 19 is not guaranteed to get it from her. I'd be very happy if that were the case. I doubt there's anyone reading this who likes to monger more than me.
I like to think this thing through and act accordingly. The virus can be spread via saliva. Lets say the hooker has showered and heads for the bed and for whatever reason she touches her tongue with her hands and then touches parts of her body (if she coughs or sneezes I'm out of there pronto). Couldn't the virus get to you if you kiss those parts of her body? She gives you a BBBJ or even a CBJ (just came to mind) and you touch your dick or the condom, in the heat of the action couldn't you without thinking touch your mouth, nose or eyes? Her hand with even a microscopic amount of saliva on it touches her vagina then you do DATY. After BBFS or CFS you touch your dick or the condom which have been in the vagina which has microscopic amounts of her saliva as aforementioned and without thinking your hand brushes against your mouth, nose or eyes.
Not scaremongering here guys, just thinking things through. Would be grateful if anyone can give any information that would state that a monger banging a provider who has covid 19 is not guaranteed to get it from her. I'd be very happy if that were the case. I doubt there's anyone reading this who likes to monger more than me.I don't think anyone can offer more than anecdotal experience on this.
If I were to relate everything I have done in the past month or two since the world became aware of the magnitude of this pandemic, someone might possibly conclude one can have no holds barred sharing and ingesting of precious bodily fluids to and from a dozen or more different partners, some of whom made their living interacting daily with coffee shop, restaurant or retail shop customers by the hundreds, some of whom were involved in the business of P4P, all right here in an area of Bangkok that is ground zero for international tourism without negative impact or incident for any of us or for anyone else we know and interact with personally right up to this day.
But that can't and shouldn't be taken as proof of anything regarding the real world risks out there. Unless thousands of other such anecdotal experiences emerge and ultimately become the norm.
I haven't even had the usual slight sniffles and stuffy nose I usually get at least once or twice this time of year. Which might be the result of the general social distance efforts of late, the bar and restaurant closures, the hand sanitizing and all that.
But more than that? I have carried on as much if not more mongering as before with no noticeable downside for me or my partners.
There was this. One favorite new girl began feeling classic flu symptoms a few days ago, went to the hospital to get tested and treated, had plenty of money for both, Lined me from the ER at Sukhumvit Hospital that she was terrified, worried about possibly having "corona" and really wanted me to be there to comfort her while she waited for her test results. I went to her within the hour.
The test came out not to be Covid-19, but ordinary influenza instead. This girl has a rather active social life with many co-worker girl friends in the modeling business. No telling where she picked up that virus. But there is to this day no evidence it came from me or anyone else I have been with. And I have yet to experience symptoms of the flu she caught as well.
Houston Player
04-05-20, 04:27
I bought mine in Germany. TBH I really don't know exactly what type of mask it is. I was told its good quality. I bought it just before I left Frankfurt on 18 March arriving in a chaos that you guys won't imagine. Never took it off the entire trip except to drink water. I don't know the shelf life of these things, been using it since.Unfortunately most of the masks are single use masks. You use it one day and throw it away. There are some with changeable filters that are reusable. If you continue to use the same mask you are likely to infect yourself from your own mask if you were unlikely enough to be in a situation where you actually needed the mask and it protected you from the virus. But now the mask is contaminated and should be discarded. By continuing to use the same mask you will at least be protecting others from your infection.
I don't think anyone can offer more than anecdotal experience on this.
If I were to relate everything I have done in the past month or two since the world became aware of the magnitude of this pandemic, someone might possibly conclude one can have no holds barred sharing and ingesting of precious bodily fluids to and from a dozen or more different partners, some of whom made their living interacting daily with coffee shop, restaurant or retail shop customers by the hundreds, some of whom were involved in the business of P4P, all right here in an area of Bangkok that is ground zero for international tourism without negative impact or incident for any of us or for anyone else we know and interact with personally right up to this day.
But that can't and shouldn't be taken as proof of anything regarding the real world risks out there. Unless thousands of other such anecdotal experiences emerge and ultimately become the norm.
I haven't even had the usual slight sniffles and stuffy nose I usually get at least once or twice this time of year. Which might be the result of the general social distance efforts of late, the bar and restaurant closures, the hand sanitizing and all that.
But more than that? I have carried on as much if not more mongering as before with no noticeable downside for me or my partners.
There was this. One favorite new girl began feeling classic flu symptoms a few days ago, went to the hospital to get tested and treated, had plenty of money for both, Lined me from the ER at Sukhumvit Hospital that she was terrified, worried about possibly having "corona" and really wanted me to be there to comfort her while she waited for her test results. I went to her within the hour.
The test came out not to be Covid-19, but ordinary influenza instead. This girl has a rather active social life with many co-worker girl friends in the modeling business. No telling where she picked up that virus. But there is to this day no evidence it came from me or anyone else I have been with. And I have yet to experience symptoms of the flu she caught as well.Sheesh, and I suppose you think that the value of social distancing is only anecdotal? Or that the estimate of 25% or more of infections coming from asymptomatic carriers is purely anecdotal? Dream on.
Franciscass
04-05-20, 06:20
I like to think this thing through and act accordingly. The virus can be spread via saliva. Lets say the hooker has showered and heads for the bed and for whatever reason she touches her tongue with her hands and then touches parts of her body (if she coughs or sneezes I'm out of there pronto). Couldn't the virus get to you if you kiss those parts of her body? She gives you a BBBJ or even a CBJ (just came to mind) and you touch your dick or the condom, in the heat of the action couldn't you without thinking touch your mouth, nose or eyes? Her hand with even a microscopic amount of saliva on it touches her vagina then you do DATY. After BBFS or CFS you touch your dick or the condom which have been in the vagina which has microscopic amounts of her saliva as aforementioned and without thinking your hand brushes against your mouth, nose or eyes.
Not scaremongering here guys, just thinking things through. Would be grateful if anyone can give any information that would state that a monger banging a provider who has covid 19 is not guaranteed to get it from her. I'd be very happy if that were the case. I doubt there's anyone reading this who likes to monger more than me.Impossible to give a guarantee that "monger banging" is at any time 100% safe. No matter how remote even practicing safe sex STD's are always a possibility, perfection as a concept does not exist, all truth is relative.
You raise a good point Turgid re a girl who is positive touching her face eyes nose or mouth and either by you later touching parts of your body she has touched and then touching your eyes nose or mouth or alternatively her touching your eyes nose or mouth there is a possibility of infection. However there are a lot of if's in there and personally I would consider it very low risk. Also washing thoroughly before and after reduces this to near zero. Incidentally another of my favorite routines cat licking, memories of Kiss. Poses these concerns to a greater degree than the circumstance you cited but again a good shower afterwards should wash away any lingering droplets. Despite the embedded begrudges we should help where we can and as always stay safe.
You mfs sitting at home horny are fucking up the game. There will not be any P4P left to come to after you guys are done. And some of you even have the nerve to think chicks are sitting home starving. No wonder chicks I have been trying to recruit have been turning their noses up at my 1000 baht LT offer.That's got to be the funniest damn post I've read in a long time. Thanks.
SS.
Sheesh, and I suppose you think that the value of social distancing is only anecdotal? Or that the estimate of 25% or more of infections coming from asymptomatic carriers is purely anecdotal? Dream on.Disregard what I post since you don't do a very good job of comprehending and "translating" it anyway and just do what works for you. I insist. Good luck.
Unfortunately most of the masks are single use masks. You use it one day and throw it away. There are some with changeable filters that are reusable. If you continue to use the same mask you are likely to infect yourself from your own mask if you were unlikely enough to be in a situation where you actually needed the mask and it protected you from the virus. But now the mask is contaminated and should be discarded. By continuing to use the same mask you will at least be protecting others from your infection.I have been told that some people always change their underwear daily as well. I don't.
Unless you are working in a hospital, those masks can be used more than once.
You mfs sitting at home horny are fucking up the game. There will not be any P4P left to come to after you guys are done. And some of you even have the nerve to think chicks are sitting home starving. No wonder chicks I have been trying to recruit have been turning their noses up at my 1000 baht LT offer.
I came over to spend the night at a chick's place tonight. I always give her 1000 baht LT. After we fucked she told me that it has been about a month since she has fucked. I asked why. She said she has been doing cam shows.
I asked for how much. She said 1,000 to 1,500 for 10 minutes. I asked who has been giving her that kind of money. She said guys from Europe: Germany, Spain, Norway are the countries she named. She said even some guys right here in Pattaya are sending her money for camming.
She wrote something about cam on her Thai Friendly and when a guy contacts her she gives him her paypal. After they deposit the money she does a videocall on Whatsapp or Line shows them her tits and wiggles them and shit. She showed me her paypal. It was littered with 1000's, 2000's. And I even saw one for over 3000. She said she told some guy that she did not have money to pay her room. He sent her 7,000 baht. DO NOT BE THAT GUY!
P. S. While I am writing this, she just sent some dude a picture of her tit and he said it looked so good that he was about to eat his computer. We are cracking up laughing over here under this cold AC that some lonely simp is paying for.Not surprised a bit. Web cam is a huge industry and people pay 1000's to just see tits in front of their screen and wank. Don't think if they know porn exists and is for exactly this use, watch and jerk off.
Many men in the world do not have the luxury of traveling and mongering in various parts of the world for one reason or other. Ofcourse they like to have a sex GF. Easiest way for them is to send money for cam shows where a live girl shows her wares. Yes, it is true porn videos are everywhere free.
I have some friends who do cam shows and earn money. I do not blame them.
There is another category of men who just send money for the upkeep of the girl who is supposed to be their " GF" without ever meeting in person or touching her.
Third category is those who do meet but has no interest in sex if the girls story is to be believed. These maybe due to their medical conditions. All they require is some fondling.
I am sure a lot of our friends here heard lots of stories.
But the question of whether it affects the market price for us is hard to say. Maybe few girls make money by these cam shows but vast majority want sex and payment. Once again with wall to wall girls in mongering hot spots with negotiating you can do well.
Unfortunately most of the masks are single use masks. You use it one day and throw it away. There are some with changeable filters that are reusable. If you continue to use the same mask you are likely to infect yourself from your own mask if you were unlikely enough to be in a situation where you actually needed the mask and it protected you from the virus. But now the mask is contaminated and should be discarded. By continuing to use the same mask you will at least be protecting others from your infection.I've been googling face masks for more info but could not find anything on my particular face mask. However, I suspect you are correct with respect to my face mask which may be a one time use product. I will no longer be using it. In my research I found this web site which may help me as I doubt I will be able to buy one here in NYC.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/how-to-make-face-mask-coronavirus.html
Pinaypounder
04-06-20, 00:31
Actually, P4P contributes a minuscule amount to the GDP of both Thailand and Philippines and neither is reliant on it. Mongers always overestimate the contribution they are making to the economy (usually by a factor of 100). Legitimate, non-sexual tourism is a significant money earner, but not P4P in isolation. This is why the Thai or Philippines governments couldn't really care whether P4P exists or closes. Many of the restrictions to the hooker scene over the past 10-15 years were to appease the conservatives in the US so they could get their hands on aid money.
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Most P4P businesses are actually fronts for other illicit activities. If P4P closed, they would take those activities elsewhere.P4P is a significant contributor to GDP especially in the Philippines. No one goes there for a vacation with out P4P they are the worst hosts and the country is an uncorodination shit hole for tourists. Sorry No pussy no tourists. Thailand has a significant non mongering tourist trade however it still pays the bills and if that was not that case they would eliminate it.
Other countries are developing their P4P for the same economic benefits.
PP.
Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.
Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.
The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.
Impossible to give a guarantee that "monger banging" is at any time 100% safe. No matter how remote even practicing safe sex STD's are always a possibility, perfection as a concept does not exist, all truth is relative.
You raise a good point Turgid re a girl who is positive touching her face eyes nose or mouth and either by you later touching parts of your body she has touched and then touching your eyes nose or mouth or alternatively her touching your eyes nose or mouth there is a possibility of infection. However there are a lot of if's in there and personally I would consider it very low risk. Also washing thoroughly before and after reduces this to near zero. Incidentally another of my favorite routines cat licking, memories of Kiss. Poses these concerns to a greater degree than the circumstance you cited but again a good shower afterwards should wash away any lingering droplets. Despite the embedded begrudges we should help where we can and as always stay safe.
Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.
Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.
The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.You bring up an important point. If it were only about my sexual pleasure, I could make do with just 1-2 regulars per week for the next month or so. I could use the break. And it would be even cheaper because those favorites would almost certainly be from among the ones with regular jobs and at least a partial ongoing income during these difficult times.
But when you are bombarded with pleas to meet at least once a week by every girl in an established stable of repeats or they will have "no money" (even if food will always be nearby) for an unknown period of time in the future as well as the constant reaching out by the few stray remaining FLs you're bound to encounter on your rounds to and from the market, it comes down to the obvious decision.
Do you ignore them, tough times, honey, figure it out on your own? Do you give them regular ongoing survival money for nothing? Or do you say ok, come over, we'll get takeaway food, watch netflix, relax in bed and might as well fuck at that point? Especially when they push for having sex too.
I had a first time FL over last week. Better looking than most street girls even at the best of times in the past couple of years. When I first met her a few weeks ago we did not session. But after a few brief Line chats she came around and, in my room, I offered her 2,000 for LT. To my surprise and, frankly, puzzlement, she said, with a smile, "No, 1,500 is ok."
I suppose it is possible she wanted to make sure I would be inclined to choose her over others again and again over the next few weeks. And what else did she have to do from that afternoon until the next morning anyway? The boredom relief factor again.
I have been told that some people always change their underwear daily as well. I don't.
Unless you are working in a hospital, those masks can be used more than once.Thanks for the detail.
I like to think this thing through and act accordingly. The virus can be spread via saliva. Lets say the hooker has showered and heads for the bed and for whatever reason she touches her tongue with her hands and then touches parts of her body (if she coughs or sneezes I'm out of there pronto). Couldn't the virus get to you if you kiss those parts of her body? She gives you a BBBJ or even a CBJ (just came to mind) and you touch your dick or the condom, in the heat of the action couldn't you without thinking touch your mouth, nose or eyes? Her hand with even a microscopic amount of saliva on it touches her vagina then you do DATY. After BBFS or CFS you touch your dick or the condom which have been in the vagina which has microscopic amounts of her saliva as aforementioned and without thinking your hand brushes against your mouth, nose or eyes.
Not scaremongering here guys, just thinking things through. Would be grateful if anyone can give any information that would state that a monger banging a provider who has covid 19 is not guaranteed to get it from her. I'd be very happy if that were the case. I doubt there's anyone reading this who likes to monger more than me.I would assume even if you washed your hands before and after all your sexual acts, and were careful not to touch your face, there would be a high likelihood you would be infected, if the WG was indeed infected. In Spain, medical workers make up 14 percent of the infections. Healthcare workers are trained to wash their hands frequently and not touch their face, and they are still getting infected.
Respiratory infections are most commonly spread through the air by viral particles in droplets from a cough or sneeze, though health workers and family members are also vulnerable to infection through close physical contact with patients without good barrier protection. A study by the US National Institutes of Health showed that if the droplets fall on to a surface, the active virus is detectable for up to 24 hours on cardboard and two or three days on plastic and steel. However contaminated surfaces are not thought to be the most important transmission route. https://www.ft.com/content/ed3fb63e-41ce-11ea-bdb5-169ba7be433d
Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.
Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.
The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.Met 2 last week, have 2 lined up for this week. Taking every precaution but still risky as it can be. But I can get a different virus anytime while my tounge is deep in her mouth. I would've waited a bit more but clearly lockdown is going to stay for a while. And no vaccine in sight for almost end of this year.
Franciscass
04-06-20, 06:08
Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.
Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.
The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.Just a thought. The death rate is way higher for the over 60's but usually for those with underlying conditions. That said I was just surmising that rather than this apprehension will I get it or won't I get it it might be preferable to get it go through the process which can be quite painful and then relax in the knowledge that as of now at least the evidence says you will not get it again at least not in the near future and by then the vaccine will be available. One could return to kissing cat licking neck sniffing whatever your heart desired safe in the knowledge that the antibodies are working their magic.
Mr Enternational
04-06-20, 06:12
P4P is a significant contributor to GDP especially in the Philippines. No one goes there for a vacation with out P4P they are the worst hosts and the country is an uncorodination shit hole for tourists. Sorry No pussy no tourists.Say what? I have been to the Philippines 100 times and each time do I see a plane full of mongers? No. What I see is a plane full of families going back to visit their folks. I see people that have been working on cruise ships or other jobs going home to visit. 9 times out of 10, I am the only monger that I see in a plane full of people. Besides that, Burgos and Fields aren't but so big to be talking about a significant contributor to a GDP. Shoe Mart is a bigger contributor than P4P.
Say what?
Shoe Mart is a bigger contributor than P4P.Now that's funny. 😁.
No offence to PP but mongers often have an inflated sense of self worth.
Anyway a local rich boy would outspend the proverbial plane load of foreign mongers. And he certainly won't be found strolling the streets of AC with a rice farmer's daughter on his arm. 😎.
Enjoy. G.
Ass Addict
04-06-20, 08:49
And he certainly won't be found strolling the streets of AC with a rice farmer's daughter on his arm. 😎.
Enjoy. G.Who cares if the girl is a rice farmer's daughter or an upscale prostitute?
I've realized that one thing this corona virus has caused is for me to be less inclined to bang Asian women. I never knew Asians ate bats and my facebook page has been bombarded by friends sending me videos of SEA's killing and cooking rats. Just the thought of me possibly being intimate with girls who eat bats, cats, dogs and rats sends shivers down my spine now. I have less of an attraction for Asian beauties than I used to. I think I'll stick to my Latin American and European babes. Good news for you guys, one less foreign monger to bang your angels.
GettingFedUp
04-06-20, 14:59
...significant contributor to a GDP. Shoe Mart is a bigger contributor than P4P.I would venture that Jollibee is a bigger component of GDP. Sadly it has also contributed greatly to the growth of Pinays waistlines.
Now that's funny. 😁.
No offence to PP but mongers often have an inflated sense of self worth.
Anyway a local rich boy would outspend the proverbial plane load of foreign mongers. And he certainly won't be found strolling the streets of AC with a rice farmer's daughter on his arm. 😎.
Enjoy. G.All I can say is when commerce began to crash in Bangkok, the malls and shopping areas were practically empty and many were shutting down ASAP while Nana and Soi Cowboy bar areas were still hanging on and often about as crowded as usual for weeks later. This was before the flight cancellations and tourist bans.
It turns out you can shop anywhere in the world. Don't have to fly to Thailand for that or to see temples or to eat Thai food. But if you want to see, meet and possibly have P4P with Thai go-go girls, BJ Bar girls, in soapies and so on, you pretty much have to come to Thailand for it.
Maybe it's a bit like the amount and percentage of physical space your nerve system occupies. Not as much as your digestive system, respiratory system, the rest of your skin, muscle and bone mass and so on. But good luck surviving and thriving as well without it.
In my case, my steady thing has taken to expressing her displeasure that I'm not willing to see her every week. As you say. And yes, it occurred to me that I could toss her a few bills for maintenance just to keep her on my side. Until I realized that she's got her safety net, and I'm pretty sure she'll clear out her schedule when I'm able to go see her again.
You bring up an important point. If it were only about my sexual pleasure, I could make do with just 1-2 regulars per week for the next month or so. I could use the break. And it would be even cheaper because those favorites would almost certainly be from among the ones with regular jobs and at least a partial ongoing income during these difficult times.
But when you are bombarded with pleas to meet at least once a week by every girl in an established stable of repeats or they will have "no money" (even if food will always be nearby) for an unknown period of time in the future as well as the constant reaching out by the few stray remaining FLs you're bound to encounter on your rounds to and from the market, it comes down to the obvious decision.
Do you ignore them, tough times, honey, figure it out on your own? Do you give them regular ongoing survival money for nothing? Or do you say ok, come over, we'll get takeaway food, watch netflix, relax in bed and might as well fuck at that point? Especially when they push for having sex too.
I had a first time FL over last week. Better looking than most street girls even at the best of times in the past couple of years. When I first met her a few weeks ago we did not session. But after a few brief Line chats she came around and, in my room, I offered her 2,000 for LT. To my surprise and, frankly, puzzlement, she said, with a smile, "No, 1,500 is ok."
I suppose it is possible she wanted to make sure I would be inclined to choose her over others again and again over the next few weeks. And what else did she have to do from that afternoon until the next morning anyway? The boredom relief factor again.
CzarNicholas
04-07-20, 03:39
I've realized that one thing this corona virus has caused is for me to be less inclined to bang Asian women. I never knew Asians ate bats and my facebook page has been bombarded by friends sending me videos of SEA's killing and cooking rats. Just the thought of me possibly being intimate with girls who eat bats, cats, dogs and rats sends shivers down my spine now. I have less of an attraction for Asian beauties than I used to. I think I'll stick to my Latin American and European babes. Good news for you guys, one less foreign monger to bang your angels.
I think we met at the chairs by the front door lockboxes in Darmstadt, summer of 2017 maybe June? July? Sept? Oct?
https://twitter.com/byron_wan/status/1220169398192889857
Ass Addict
04-07-20, 10:56
I've realized that one thing this corona virus has caused is for me to be less inclined to bang Asian women. I never knew Asians ate bats and my facebook page has been bombarded by friends sending me videos of SEA's killing and cooking rats. Just the thought of me possibly being intimate with girls who eat bats, cats, dogs and rats sends shivers down my spine now. I have less of an attraction for Asian beauties than I used to.You're correct, they can eat strange stuffs sometimes, even their customer's ass.
Since almost Feb I was only meeting my 3 regulars. But in mid March all 3 left bkk to live with families, so I started looking for other options. I called a girl who I met last year in may at Insanity. Asked if she still "works", she said she can't meet because of covid. Fair enough. Got pretty much same response from other girls I contacted.
Last week she texted me and asked if we can meet. On me asking what changed her mind, she gave the obvious answer, money. She told me she was sitting at home for 1 month and etc etc. I don't care if this is true or not. Decided the deal and she said no to kissing which I agreed.
She came on time, I told her to take keycard from lobby to my room and she knocked right on time. I opened the door and she was wearing a white dress, with high heels, and great hair. Punctual and hot, I am already hard. She was looking super hot and now at that time I was thinking why I didn't meet her again. We talked a bit and then moved to shower. Her breasts are natural 34 A, which I rubbed well in shower. We both cleaned each other well, better than usual times. During shower she told me she haven't had sex in a month and I started laughing and told her I don't buy it. She did had little belly fat, which she said was result of sitting at home. Before we go out of shower, I asked her to suck me. And she went to her knees in shower and started licking my balls. Her BBBJ maybe the best I had in ages. I can't remember who sucked me so well. Her mouth was hot (fever? Haha) and she used good amount of saliva. It was sloppy but well controlled blowjob. I comed on her face. It's not my thing but just couldn't control it LOL. She stood up and we showered again.
Then we went to bed. She started giving me massage, it was right mix of pressure and sensual touches around sensitive parts. After massage she asked for second round and I asked yes instantly. LOL she started giggling. This time again she started sucking me and man, she is good. I wanted to come again but this time asked her to put rubber quickly. Started with woman on top, and then I sat up and she started moving slowly up and down, while my chest and her boobs rubbing each other. My back was against bed pillow, so I had support and could control her motion easily. Sucked and bit her boobs and she was getting mad. Then I transition into missionary and started kissing her earlobe and neck. She reacted well but was moaning too loud for my taste. Had to ask her to scream less haha. Moved to doggy and then come in her pussy.
After this we ordered food and had some wine. Good thing she has amazing English and does freelancing 4-5 times in a month. She is doing this for 5 years (she is 26). She has a condo which she has rented for 20 k, that's how she was living without working for last month. But had to send sone money home, so here we were drinking wine. After wine, we watched a korean movie, and in between she started rubbing my balls. Then suck again. This time she out rubber on quite early, I saw the time, it was 8:30 pm. Ahh she has to leave quickly to reach home in time. So same position like last time, moved to miss and this time we were more intense. Maybe wine and get to know each other. She has atleast 3 orgasms during this time, she should pay me LOL. I comed almost after 5 minutes of intense passionate fuck. After coming, I lied down on her for couple of minutes, both of us were trying to catch our breath. Then I dropped her in lobby and gave her a good tip. She made a joke about me coming 3 times, and I told her next time let's try to make it to 4 (well we met again yesterday, and just had 2 shots. Pretty much same story).
P.S.: she's my new regular. I'm thinking which one of my former regular will have to leave the slot for her.
Robert Long
04-07-20, 13:00
I've realized that one thing this corona virus has caused is for me to be less inclined to bang Asian women. I never knew Asians ate bats and my facebook page has been bombarded by friends sending me videos of SEA's killing and cooking rats. Just the thought of me possibly being intimate with girls who eat bats, cats, dogs and rats sends shivers down my spine now. I have less of an attraction for Asian beauties than I used to. I think I'll stick to my Latin American and European babes. Good news for you guys, one less foreign monger to bang your angels.An addendum to your gross eats. Issan are famous for eating, cockroaches, worms, beetles, and grubs, all dried and toasted. You can catch the vendor on Soi 7/1 or Soi 4.
I call it Issan Candy. I don't know what is worst, rats and bats or bugs, but they love it. Oh and in Issan they eat raw pork and fresh pigs blood. One of Bourdain's episodes deals with northeastern Thailand. Check it out.
RL.
Mr Enternational
04-07-20, 13:25
I've realized that one thing this corona virus has caused is for me to be less inclined to bang Asian women. I never knew Asians ate bats and my facebook page has been bombarded by friends sending me videos of SEA's killing and cooking rats. Just the thought of me possibly being intimate with girls who eat bats, cats, dogs and rats sends shivers down my spine now.You are overthinking it. North Americans eat nutria and South Americans eat cuy. Europeans eat.. snails?
You are overthinking it. North Americans eat nutria and South Americans eat cuy. Europeans eat.. snails?Horse meat is eaten in many parts of Europe and in Canada. This is considered to be taboo and "gross" in many parts of the world. As is eating beef in India or pork in the Islamic and Jewish worlds. Everybody eats something that somebody else finds to be repulsive for one reason or another. Not giving up my beef burgers and pork ribs! Pork fried rice neither LOL!
LittleBigMan
04-07-20, 13:50
Every race thinks they are better than others Thais are no different.
I get it here a lot from my Thai family. I've eaten in China lots of stuff you shouldn't cat, dog, snake dick, snake blood, monkey, some type of ban blackbird but I've never eaten bat and rat the Thais so enjoy plus the bugs. At times driving to the farm, she couldn't get out of the truck fast enough to get some of that rat.
I took them several years ago to my family village seafood is what many Thais love but also good beef, I took them to one of the best seafood and got them a clay pot of dog said was beef, they chow down like no tomorrow couldn't stop eating it. The last night before we were headed back to Hong Kong while eating lunch a cart of dead dogs were being carried into the restaurant they stopped eating suddenly and got barking mad.
...................I think we met at the chairs by the front door lockboxes in Darmstadt, summer of 2017 maybe June? July? Sept? Oct?..............I was in Frankfurt the entire summer of 2017 and spent many many days in Sharks. Occasionally chatted with guys from different parts of the world, mainly Americans. Also with some cool Asians. I will never attack another person's culture but act appropriately and rationally in relation to it.
You are overthinking it. North Americans eat nutria and South Americans eat cuy. Europeans eat.. snails?I see you have been to Louisiana. LOL.
MarquisdeSade1
04-07-20, 20:51
I was in Frankfurt the entire summer of 2017 and spent many many days in Sharks. Occasionally chatted with guys from different parts of the world, mainly Americans. Also with some cool Asians. I will never attack another person's culture but act appropriately and rationally in relation to it.I was in Sharks 21 days straight in June LOL.
I don't think of it that way at all. If anything, a woman who has a tongue ready for slurping noodles and a nose for pungent kimchi is more likely to be unphased by a mouthful of my spunk. Indeed, the most enthusiastic rimjobs I've received we're from VN ladies.
Far less drama from Asians than Latinas, I've had my share of both. Plus Asians age better even if they don't start out with the nice natural booty and rack.
I've realized that one thing this corona virus has caused is for me to be less inclined to bang Asian women. I never knew Asians ate bats and my facebook page has been bombarded by friends sending me videos of SEA's killing and cooking rats. Just the thought of me possibly being intimate with girls who eat bats, cats, dogs and rats sends shivers down my spine now. I have less of an attraction for Asian beauties than I used to. I think I'll stick to my Latin American and European babes. Good news for you guys, one less foreign monger to bang your angels.
I think we met at the chairs by the front door lockboxes in Darmstadt, summer of 2017 maybe June? July? Sept? Oct?
https://twitter.com/byron_wan/status/1220169398192889857
...Plus Asians age better even if they don't start out with the nice natural booty and rack.Age better? One of my regrets in Thailand is never finding MILFs who still ticked my main boxes in terms of figure. Wall-to-wall mommy bodies beyond a certain age in my experience.
Asian women are not tall. Their figures have little room to accommodate rogue fat and loose tissue.
Contrary to Latinas and Europeans, they do not seem ageing conscious. No sports, no work outs, no jogging, no swimming, no sensible cosmetic surgery (only unneeded nose jobs).
Mr Enternational
04-08-20, 05:21
Age better? One of my regrets in Thailand is never finding MILFs who still ticked my main boxes in terms of figure. Wall-to-wall mommy bodies beyond a certain age in my experience.Get one that does not have kids. I have several.
no sensible cosmetic surgery (only unneeded nose jobs).Ask to see their before and after pictures. In most cases those nose jobs make a world of difference. I spent the night over a chicks house that had just gotten one 2 weeks ago though and I told her that she wasted her 10,000 baht. She looked exactly the same to me. She said the nostrils are more flared or something. But the chicks that add the bridge (which I think is the most common one) usually look better IMO.
Get one that does not have kids. I have several.It depends on your body preferences too. I'm my mind tall slim asians do age very well. I'd agree that buxom and curvaceous girls' looks often go south as gravity takes its toll.
Enjoy. G.
In most cases those nose jobs make a world of difference. I spent the night over a chicks house that had just gotten one 2 weeks ago though and I told her that she wasted her 10,000 baht. She looked exactly the same to me. She said the nostrils are more flared or something. But the chicks that add the bridge (which I think is the most common one) usually look better IMO.I don't give a rat's ass about a girl's face provided she has the right body. Cosmetic surgery to improve the figure (not the tits) is the only type of surgery that would make a difference to me. And it's precisely the type of cosmetic surgery women here don't go for.
I don't think of it that way at all. If anything, a woman who has a tongue ready for slurping noodles and a nose for pungent kimchi is more likely to be unphased by a mouthful of my spunk. Indeed, the most enthusiastic rimjobs I've received we're from VN ladies.
Far less drama from Asians than Latinas, I've had my share of both. Plus Asians age better even if they don't start out with the nice natural booty and rack.Could not agree more. Latinas are way to much trouble and drama and American chicks, constantly talking about themselves. Not too much experience with Euro gals, sure like the looks of those Eastern Europeans. Yes, so called "curvy" women (the PC term for fat), certainly don't age well. They are starch bombs ready to explode. Give me a gal with nice A's or small BS over a gal whose tits will be sagging even if she does not pump out a little of puppies. And yes, it seems that rimming is standard order for many Asian gals. Not so much in the West. I'll take Asians.
Yes, so called "curvy" women (the PC term for fat), certainly don't age well. They are starch bombs ready to explode. Give me a gal with nice A's or small BS over a gal whose tits will be sagging even if she does not pump out a little of puppies. Personally, I don't care what types of girls age well because I always stick with the 19 to 25 year olds who have not had kids anyway. Curvy chicks with big firm tits and a great ass get my dick hard faster than the skinny ones.
An addendum to your gross eats. Issan are famous for eating, cockroaches, worms, beetles, and grubs, all dried and toasted. You can catch the vendor on Soi 7/1 or Soi 4.
I call it Issan Candy. I don't know what is worst, rats and bats or bugs, but they love it. Oh and in Issan they eat raw pork and fresh pigs blood. One of Bourdain's episodes deals with northeastern Thailand. Check it out.
RL.The grasshoppers and worms aren't so bad at all!. I had some when I was in the provinces of Buriram(Sateuk) and Maha Sarakham(Phayakkaphum Phisai). Tasted like beef jerky. Of course, I washed it all down with LEO Beer!. In all seriousness, that part of Thailand has been poor for a pretty long time and still is. You can't blame them for doing whatever it is they had to do to survive. Of course, bats, mice, cockroaches, beetles, dogs are my breaking points. Come to think of it, there was a story about 3-4 years ago in Mukdahan, Thailand of some teens digging up a dead dog's grave to eat it and they did, ONLY to realize the dog had rabies!. I kid you not.
P.S. The fresh pigs' blood is an acquired taste, I suppose. I had that with pork noodles when I lived in Saphan Khwai. There's a Big C that has a food court that specializes in Issan food. Tasted pretty damn good to me!.
Could not agree more. Latinas are way to much trouble and drama and American chicks, constantly talking about themselves. Not too much experience with Euro gals, sure like the looks of those Eastern Europeans. Yes, so called "curvy" women (the PC term for fat), certainly don't age well. They are starch bombs ready to explode. Give me a gal with nice A's or small BS over a gal whose tits will be sagging even if she does not pump out a little of puppies. And yes, it seems that rimming is standard order for many Asian gals. Not so much in the West. I'll take Asians.Hi guys,
I'm so glad that you all like the thin ones with little to no boobage because that means more big boobs (with hopefully semi-slim body) for me! Concur with the comments about the emotionally-driven (read hot blooded) albeit sexy, busty Latinas but don't forget the Pinays have Spanish blood, too, as demonstrated in their occasional bouts of tampo. Thais, Viets, Cambos many have beautiful bodies / faces / minds and are man pleasers if you can handle their language, culture and extended family. American women? Fuggetaboutit. Selfish, overweight who could put their loud mouths to much better use like sucking the schwantztooka on a regular basis. Europeans and Australian broads too similar to Americans IMHO. East Europeans can be quite alluring but too similar to the American me too, too. Never happy. All women are nut cases if you ask me and if you get to know them long enough but I still believe there are some gems out there if you get one young enough and train her. Never, never never bring them to the States or Western civilization to live because they will quickly be poisoned. Cheers, mates.
CzarNicholas
04-08-20, 16:05
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/world/coronavirus-domestic-violence.html
I don't think of it that way at all. If anything, a woman who has a tongue ready for slurping noodles and a nose for pungent kimchi is more likely to be unphased by a mouthful of my spunk. Indeed, the most enthusiastic rimjobs I've received we're from VN ladies.
Far less drama from Asians than Latinas, I've had my share of both. Plus Asians age better even if they don't start out with the nice natural booty and rack.No European girl will refuse to swallow your spunk as long as you pay extra. Latinas are a bit different, its the Catholic upbringing. However, they will listen to reason so that if you inform them that its nutritious and full of protein and other goodies they may accomodate you, but come armed with some sort of authority, for example:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/6-unexpected-health-benefits-semen-133000933.html
KC Questor
04-08-20, 19:18
You guys making fun of other cultures' foods rally make me laugh. Like food we eat is so different. "Ew they eat bugs" as if lobster and shrimp aren't basically bugs. Rats and cats and dogs are gross but chickens and goats and pigs are fine. Or the people who refuse to eat brains or pancreas or stomach lining. Don't think about what's inside your hot dog (or what the casing is made from)! It's like those people who freak out when they learn that some countries eat horse.
Sure, some foods will make you sick -- like digging up a dead animal's grave, or eating a diseased animal. But there's nothing inherently more gross about any one culture's food. It's just different. Believe me, they make fun of our food as much as we make fun of theirs.
Oh, and those latinas? They might eat Guinea pig (cuy) or worms (gusanos) or ant larvae (escamoles) or bull penis soup (calde de cordan).
Believe me, they make fun of our food as much as we make fun of theirs.I know a lot of Chinese people find cheese to be pretty nasty. I love it myself haha!
You guys making fun of other cultures' foods rally make me laugh. Like food we eat is so different. "Ew they eat bugs" as if lobster and shrimp aren't basically bugs. Rats and cats and dogs are gross but chickens and goats and pigs are fine. Or the people who refuse to eat brains or pancreas or stomach lining. Don't think about what's inside your hot dog (or what the casing is made from)! It's like those people who freak out when they learn that some countries eat horse.
Sure, some foods will make you sick -- like digging up a dead animal's grave, or eating a diseased animal. But there's nothing inherently more gross about any one culture's food. It's just different. Believe me, they make fun of our food as much as we make fun of theirs.
Oh, and those latinas? They might eat Guinea pig (cuy) or worms (gusanos) or ant larvae (escamoles) or bull penis soup (calde de cordan).Where did Covid-19 come from? Ebola? Hantavirus?
But yeah, let's pretend there's nothing fucked up with the food culture in certain countries, like China.
I am stuck in Thailand indefinitely. Well I could go back to Uhhhhmerica but at the moment. I am safer here. I digress. What I wrote this for is I found a lovely gem in BKK worth sharing. Pim which is the only one I found so far on Massage republic is lovely. She may be the mama, I chose Minnie and not Pim last night. She was more my type but Pim seems to have a good roster. For those in my situation. Well at least now you have a way to sort things out in your bed while the world sorts itself out. PM my inbox if you want or use good old Google. Stay safe guys. One day this Covid will end.
I know a lot of Chinese people find cheese to be pretty nasty. I love it myself haha!Thank you for the compliment as I am originally from Cheeseland aka America's Dairyland and am frequently. Affectionally called Cheesehead: a Green Bay Packer football fan: Next Years Superbowl Champions. Take note.
CzarNicholas
04-10-20, 05:11
https://www.glamour.com/story/can-you-have-sex-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic-an-investigation
Franciscass
04-10-20, 05:41
Where did Covid-19 come from? Ebola? Hantavirus?
But yeah, let's pretend there's nothing fucked up with the food culture in certain countries, like China.Its not what people eat, that's simply cultural sometimes religious. Ever see a pig at home in their natural habitat I. E. Pigsty, filthy beyond belief and we eat pork. Its possible but not yet proven some species are more likely to carry contagious virus's that spread to humans. Sars, civit cats Covid-19, bats Mers, camels but for me its the hygiene, the rearing, slaughtering and preparation for consumption that causes most food related illness's. China's so called wet markets are recognized as dangerous precisely for these reasons and it is more than coincidence that both Sars and Covid -19 started there.
Is that the Pim advert you are referring to? If so, I noticed it yesterday but the reviews speak of Hana and Kim. Not Pim. So I guess it's an agent and the pictures on MR may not be your lass.
I've pinged Tanxxx from MR for my own self isolation drill here in BKK. She's been slow to respond, so look for my PM.
I am stuck in Thailand indefinitely. Well I could go back to Uhhhhmerica but at the moment. I am safer here. I digress. What I wrote this for is I found a lovely gem in BKK worth sharing. Pim which is the only one I found so far on Massage republic is lovely. She may be the mama, I chose Minnie and not Pim last night. She was more my type but Pim seems to have a good roster. For those in my situation. Well at least now you have a way to sort things out in your bed while the world sorts itself out. PM my inbox if you want or use good old Google. Stay safe guys. One day this Covid will end.
Is that the Pim advert you are referring to? If so, I noticed it yesterday but the reviews speak of Hana and Kim. Not Pim. So I guess it's an agent and the pictures on MR may not be your lass.
I've pinged Tanxxx from MR for my own self isolation drill here in BKK. She's been slow to respond, so look for my PM.It is an agency. The chick I chose was Minnie. Second pic on the page. Huge rack. She was lovely. Thinking of going for round 2 this weekend LOL.
For those in my situation. Well at least now you have a way to sort things out in your bed while the world sorts itself out. PM my inbox if you want or use good old Google. Stay safe guys. One day this Covid will end.Some of the massage places are still operating but only for outcalls (the girl comes directly to your place) and outside of the curfew's hours.
I've seen that Dokidoki and Momo massage are doing this, others are probably also doing it.
Not all their girls are available though, check their line page for more information.
BackpackBrian
04-10-20, 08:59
I've been watching lots of vids on Youtube and I see what looks like working girls standing around in these Thermae cafes.
Can anyone tell me the story here?
Are these working girls, regular girls looking for a men, etc, etc?
How does it work in a Thermae cafe in Bangkok?
I've been watching lots of vids on Youtube and I see what looks like working girls standing around in these Thermae cafes.
Can anyone tell me the story here?
Are these working girls, regular girls looking for a men, etc, etc?
How does it work in a Thermae cafe in Bangkok?Lady boys are not allowed in Thermae. They congregate outside. So those hotties you are looking at probably have a dick.
BackpackBrian
04-11-20, 09:29
Lady boys are not allowed in Thermae. They congregate outside. So those hotties you are looking at probably have a dick.Hi,
I'm not really interested in what's lurking around outside the cafe, I'm curious to know what the process is inside a Thermae Cafe!
I've been watching lots of vids on Youtube and I see what looks like working girls standing around in these Thermae cafes.
Can anyone tell me the story here?
Are these working girls, regular girls looking for a men, etc, etc?
How does it work in a Thermae cafe in Bangkok?Any girls standing around a spot for more than 5 minutes between asoke to nana bts is WG. Just be cautious of someone standing near bus stop and you ask her price for ST haha.
And most if not all girls standing outside thermae are ladyboys.
Hotman 666
04-11-20, 10:20
I've been watching lots of vids on Youtube and I see what looks like working girls standing around in these Thermae cafes.
Can anyone tell me the story here?
Are these working girls, regular girls looking for a men, etc, etc?
How does it work in a Thermae cafe in Bangkok?Google is your friend.
"thermae Bangkok. ".
"I'm sure by now many of you guys have heard about the Thermae cafe in Bangkok.
And if you haven't I will tell you exactly what it is, and why it is good to know about this "cafe" located in the Basement of the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel.
Throughout my years in Thailand I get asked which bar has been consistent over the years.
And one my answers is the Thermae freelancer bar.
Although many things have changed over the years (including the prices), this famous cafe in Bangkok is still going as strong as ever.
This bar which is known as the "Star Wars" bar interesting because you will see many different types of travelers with a wide variety of personalities and backgrounds.
It can even be somewhat entertaining just to visit the place for nostalgic reasons even if you don't plan to take out one of the many girls there.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
This report is from yesterday. Got a message on line from some girl saying if I want to meet? My first reaction, who the F are you? She had a pic of kitten on her line, so anyone's guess is as good as mine. She gave usual BS, "you don't remember me? "we meet before, you remember? Later she sent me her pics, then I remember I barfined her from one of gogo on cowboy earlier this year.
Now I already had another meeting booked with someone else for yesterday evening, but this chick's looks are quite Japanese. And I was in mood for some Jap stuff, so cancelled my prior meeting (actually postponed it for Monday) and asked her to come. She asked for 2 k and I agreed. If I remember correctly, last time we met I paid 2500 for ST and 7-800 BF. And of-course drinks and LDs.
Arrived on time, directly at my room and knocked. Opened the door and here she was in black top, small shorts and a pony tail. After some talking and usual things, she asked for money. I said, after babes. She complied.
Went to shower, nothing to shout about. Dried up and moved to bed. She was lying on her back, me on right, caressing her boobs and licking kissing her earlobes and neck. She was moaning just the way I like. She noticed I was hard as fuck and she started giving me HJ, while lying on her back. Now I'm avoiding kissing but this time, temptation got better of me. And I started kissing her. She was not very open to it though, but she didn't said no or pushed me either, so we did light kissing for few minutes. Nothing like tongues wrestling in each other's mouth. While kissing she kept giving me HJ and I was rubbing her clit. Then I took the rubber and put it on and went into her with mis. I was quite hard, and her pussy was super tight. The only bad part, she was just lying down and moaning. I love when girl uses her hand on my back and hair while I'm banging her. I came in few minutes and we went to shower again.
Ordered food and then she left. Gave her 500 b tip over the agreed amount. Obviously she asked when can we meet again. Even I don't know when, but the way everything is closed and no way going to open soon, I guess will meet her soon.
Steve 9696
04-11-20, 13:23
This report is from yesterday. Got a message on line from some girl saying if I want to meet? My first reaction, who the F are you? She had a pic of kitten on her line, so anyone's guess is as good as mine. She gave usual BS, "you don't remember me? "we meet before, you remember? Later she sent me her pics, then I remember I barfined her from one of gogo on cowboy earlier this year.
Now I already had another meeting booked with someone else for yesterday evening, but this chick's looks are quite Japanese. And I was in mood for some Jap stuff, so cancelled my prior meeting (actually postponed it for Monday) and asked her to come. She asked for 2 k and I agreed. If I remember correctly, last time we met I paid 2500 for ST and 7-800 BF. And of-course drinks and LDs.
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Ordered food and then she left. Gave her 500 b tip over the agreed amount. Obviously she asked when can we meet again. Even I don't know when, but the way everything is closed and no way going to open soon, I guess will meet her soon.Thanks for fucking and reporting in! So needed right now when every thread on ISG is someone speculating with no data about what's going to happen next. Bangkok thread at least still has a little action. And nice to see a real and current report. Thanks for fucking during this difficult time. (I should make a greeting card that says that! LOL)
Thanks for fucking and reporting in! So needed right now when every thread on ISG is someone speculating with no data about what's going to happen next. Bangkok thread at least still has a little action. And nice to see a real and current report. Thanks for fucking during this difficult time. (I should make a greeting card that says that! LOL)Hahahaha just helping the girls to pay rent and bills.
Thanks for fucking and reporting in! So needed right now when every thread on ISG is someone speculating with no data about what's going to happen next. Bangkok thread at least still has a little action. And nice to see a real and current report. Thanks for fucking during this difficult time. (I should make a greeting card that says that! LOL)Used to be three locations but Tijuana is out now. Now only two countries where mongering is taking place namely Thailand and Colombia. Medellin beats Bangkok and Pattaya though.
Houston Player
04-11-20, 15:23
Used to be three locations but Tijuana is out now. Now only two countries where mongering is taking place namely Thailand and Colombia. Medellin beats Bangkok and Pattaya though.That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. However I disagree, to me Bangkok blows Medellin away. To each their own. We do happen to be in the Bangkok thread. I don't read the Medellin threads because I don't care about what is posted there.
This report is from yesterday. Got a message on line from some girl saying if I want to meet? My first reaction, who the F are you? She had a pic of kitten on her line, so anyone's guess is as good as mine. She gave usual BS, "you don't remember me? "we meet before, you remember? Later she sent me her pics, then I remember I barfined her from one of gogo on cowboy earlier this year.
Now I already had another meeting booked with someone else for yesterday evening, but this chick's looks are quite Japanese. And I was in mood for some Jap stuff, so cancelled my prior meeting (actually postponed it for Monday) and asked her to come. She asked for 2 k and I agreed. If I remember correctly, last time we met I paid 2500 for ST and 7-800 BF. And of-course drinks and LDs.
Arrived on time, directly at my room and knocked. Opened the door and here she was in black top, small shorts and a pony tail. After some talking and usual things, she asked for money. I said, after babes. She complied.
Went to shower, nothing to shout about. Dried up and moved to bed. She was lying on her back, me on right, caressing her boobs and licking kissing her earlobes and neck. She was moaning just the way I like. She noticed I was hard as fuck and she started giving me HJ, while lying on her back. Now I'm avoiding kissing but this time, temptation got better of me. And I started kissing her. She was not very open to it though, but she didn't said no or pushed me either, so we did light kissing for few minutes. Nothing like tongues wrestling in each other's mouth. While kissing she kept giving me HJ and I was rubbing her clit. Then I took the rubber and put it on and went into her with mis. I was quite hard, and her pussy was super tight. The only bad part, she was just lying down and moaning. I love when girl uses her hand on my back and hair while I'm banging her. I came in few minutes and we went to shower again.
Ordered food and then she left. Gave her 500 b tip over the agreed amount. Obviously she asked when can we meet again. Even I don't know when, but the way everything is closed and no way going to open soon, I guess will meet her soon.Nice report. I have couple of questions.
1. Are public transport like buses, trains, taxis running?
2. Is the Airport open?
3. Are girls available on the street?
4. Is lockdown strictly enforced?
5. Are hotels open?
I didn't know the water machines were so well maintained.
That meter doesn't test what is in the water though. Couldn't one of your PPM be a bacteria?
Nobody is going to go hungry. They even set up places to give out free food.
Also you can get 1.5L of water from the machine for 1 baht. And the machines actually have the best water. I did a test and the machine came out to 7ppm. Crystal bottled water came out to 21ppm. And the water from my bathroom faucet came out to 178ppm. It is all safe to drink up to 500ppm.
Mr Enternational
04-11-20, 18:46
2. Is the Airport open?The airport is open, but there is a ban on flights entering Thailand until April 18.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1894335/flight-ban-extended-again
3. Are girls available on the street?There are in Pattaya on Beach Road.
4. Is lockdown strictly enforced?There is not really a lockdown. Well I think in some places like in Phuket you can not go to certain areas and of course can not hang out in groups. But you are allowed to go outside. There is a curfew from 10pm to 4am. So far over 6,000 people have been found in violation. The fine in 10,000 baht and/or 6 months in jail.
https://pattayaone.news/number-of-emergency-decree-violators-tops-5000/
5. Are hotels open?Many hotels are closed because there are no customers.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1897350/empty-hotels-eager-to-serve-as-quarantine-facilities
3. Are girls available on the street?
Mr E mostly answered other questions, regarding street girls, yes I saw some outside around 4:30 pm near nana bts. But as nana plaza and cowboy are closed, you won't find the same numbers.
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. However I disagree, to me Bangkok blows Medellin away. To each their own. We do happen to be in the Bangkok thread. I don't read the Medellin threads because I don't care about what is posted there.I have been to Medellin once for a smalk vacation. Loved it.
For me, and that's my personal biased opinion ofcourse, Medellin was better in terms of girls, service and price.
Girls.
I found girls there more beautiful and attractive, especially Venezuelan ones.
Price.
$50-80 max. That's 1500-2500 b.
And I got some really young chicks for that price range.
Service.
It depends on which girl you meet, but I'd say it wasn't that much different from girls in Thailand.
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. However I disagree, to me Bangkok blows Medellin away. To each their own. We do happen to be in the Bangkok thread. I don't read the Medellin threads because I don't care about what is posted there.Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. Read in context. When I stated "Medellin beats Bangkok and Pattaya though" I meant at the moment with covid 19 measures in place. In normal times? That's moot depending on individual tastes.
Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. Read in context. When I stated "Medellin beats Bangkok and Pattaya though" I meant at the moment with covid 19 measures in place. In normal times? That's moot depending on individual tastes.Unless you are in both places now, how can you tell? Mr E seems to be doing great based on his posts.
Last evening I wasn't going to meet anyone but got horny after watching a movie. So I started looking for agencies on web. I have avoided all agencies except Smooci so far but even that one I use very rarely. Came across this site topescortbabes, it has same girls from other agencies, just almost no reviews. Found this chick, Sweetyme (Line name, gigi) from Laos who was on "top 1" in bkk LOL. Contacted her on line and she agreed to meet in couple of hours. Now if I'm meeting someone like that, I always go for a video call to verify the pics. She said no, I said bye bye. She then agreed to do a quick call, and her pics are genuine. But her voice was very ladyboy-ish. I asked her on call, "are you ladyboy? She said "noooo". But I wasn't convinced so asked for her thai ID, unfortunately she said she's not from Thailand and from Laos. So, I asked for passport to verify her gender, otherwise can't meet. After few minutes of back and forth she proved she is a girl. Then came the price. She asked for 5 k for 1 shot. HAHAHAHAHA. I countered 3 k. She said 4. 5 k and this went on for 5-6 messages. By then we agreed to 3 k. Also agreed to BBBJ, CFS or CIM.
Now she came on time, looking hot, She asked for money first, and I showed her the gate. Learned a while back, giving money in advance is worst thing you can do. We went for shower and washed each other. Actually she washed me, I was just playing with her boobs. Went to bed and she took my clothes off and started sucking me. It was decent, not deep though. But like in 30 seconds she took the condom. I was like, "wtf, I want you to suck more". And here she started all the drama, "no no I sucked little already". I should've kicked her out right then, but I went with it. She did suck me for 20 more seconds. Started with women on top, my chest and her boobs rubbing against each, that was the best part. She moved back and forth slowly for good couple of minutes before I stood up and moved to mis. From now on, it just went downhill. She was maybe expecting me to come quickly. But I was pounding her good. In this position, she just closed her eyes and acted like a deadfish. It was like I am fucking a corpse. Not very arousing right? Moved to doggy and pounded for 2 minutes. I was quite hard but I knew it, I ain't going to come like that. Asked her to finish me by BBBJ CIM. She started sucking me, for like 5 seconds and then started giving me handjob. I explained her I don't want handjob, she has to finish me by BJ. She sucked me for 5 seconds and here comes handjob again. It happened 3-4 times and I was like fuck it. Asked her to stop and said "that's it". Worst part, she didn't even try, just stood up and asked for money. Now I didn't come and she was as interesting as like a tree. I gave her 2000 b. And as expected she started acting like she should be getting full amount. I told her I'm being very generous and she should be happy I gave this. Once she knew, I ain't about to budge, she went to bathroom, changed and left. Some might feel that I should've paid full, because we fucked and it was me who couldn't come. But it's her zero interest and complete inability to give a BBBJ for more than 30 seconds, which forced me give her less.
After a series 4 good experiences I was in for a bad one. That's the part of game.
WIR. LOL.
Will I recommend? - If you're looking for a girl with decent boobs, with no PSE and GFE and will just lay there for you to fuck. Sure go ahead. Jokes apart, avoid her.
Lint of her https://topescortbabes.com/bangkok/escorts/Sweetyme_387224.
Mr Enternational
04-12-20, 14:29
By then we agreed to 3 k. Also agreed to BBBJ, CFS or CIM.
Asked her to stop and said "that's it". Worst part, she didn't even try, just stood up and asked for money. Now I didn't come and she was as interesting as like a tree. I gave her 2000 b. And as expected she started acting like she should be getting full amount. I told her I'm being very generous and she should be happy I gave this.Well, to be fair she did do BBBJ and CFS as agreed. Should she be held responsible that you did not finish? Afterall, it was you who said that's it! Neither the degree of effort and how it would be graded, nor the time or depth the BBBJ had to be was in the contract. IMHO you ripped her off.
And it may not have been anything that she was actively trying to do or not do. Like any other thing on this planet, there are people good at it and people not good at it, through no fault of their own. I do not understand why she should have had to assume the risk that the job she was doing was sufficient or not sufficient enough for you. The saying is usually buyer beware. I guess people don't generally expect the buyer to cheat the seller. I mean can you ethically tell someone this was not what I expected and pay them less after you both agreed to a price and they DID perform the agreed upon tasks? Whether you thought the job was done satisfactorily or not is purely subjective since there were no parameters or metrics established beforehand.
I know some guys have a checklist that they want the girl to agree to when choosing a provider, but unless I am just really in the mood to do some shit like fuck a girl in the ass, then I will just go with the flow. Some say that you get what you pay for, but having never given a chick anywhere near 3,000 baht for even LT, I have next to never been not satisfied with the service level.
Well, to be fair she did do BBBJ and CFS as agreed. Should she be held responsible that you did not finish? Afterall, it was you who said that's it! Neither the degree of effort and how it would be graded, nor the time or depth the BBBJ had to be was in the contract. IMHO you ripped her off.
I can see your pov. I might have said the same thing, I guess I have said exactly what you're saying before to someone else's post. Why I think I didn't rip her off? We agreed to BBBJ and CFS / CIM. I don't thini she even tried to do BBBJ. First time she did it for 30-50 seconds I believe. Second time she was doing for 5 seconds and then turning to handjob. This is not what we agreed upon. I did give her chance to do it right, told her 3-4 times that I won't be able to come like this, But seems like she was trying to rip me off, by agreeing to BBBJ and then not giving it in room. And no, I don't consider 5 seconds of sucking as service.
Saying that, I have given full agreed amount in past, even when I wasn't able to come. But always I have seen girl making an effort. That was absent this time.
Mr Enternational
04-12-20, 15:28
Why I think I didn't rip her off? We agreed to BBBJ and CFS / CIM. I don't thini she even tried to do BBBJ. First time she did it for 30-50 seconds I believe. Second time she was doing for 5 seconds and then turning to handjob. This is not what we agreed upon. I did give her chance to do it right, told her 3-4 times that I won't be able to come like this,In your opinion it was not what you agreed on. To her BBBJ could be her putting her mouth on it for even 1 second, while to you it is her doing nothing but mouth for 30 minutes straight. Also she agreed that you could finish IN her mouth. She did not agree that she would make you finish WITH her mouth.
Well, to be fair she did do BBBJ and CFS as agreed. Should she be held responsible that you did not finish? Afterall, it was you who said that's it! Neither the degree of effort and how it would be graded, nor the time or depth the BBBJ had to be was in the contract. IMHO you ripped her off.Neither of us was there, so let's take it to be true that she would put his dick in his mouth for just 5 seconds at a time, then take it out and try to jerk him off (we all know that kind of thing happens sometimes). That shows a basic lack of effort and no real intent to keep her end of the deal whatsoever. Plus she just laid there and was a dead fish fuck. No, the way I see it is that she's lucky he paid her ass shit.
Where he messed up was having her come over in the first place. Should have just dropped her after all that back and forth. A bad sign. But once she came over, she had an obligation to at least try to do her damn job. She did not, and for that, she didn't deserve all the money. You criticize him for calling it off? If you go somewhere and receive bad service, do you feel obligated to stand / sit / lay there and keep receiving that same bad service and pay full price in the end? Get real and be fair if you are going to judge. "Buyer beware" means the consumer should be prepared to look out for himself and his interests, and act accordingly. And if that means telling a lazy, scamming, acting in bad faith tute to get to stepping, so be it! Same for any other type of poor service provider. Nothing different about dealing with a "poor" little prostitute (always the victim).
Based on what he told us (again we weren't there), it was she who acted in bad faith. Because she didn't try to meet her end of the deal. Acting in "good faith" is an essential element in establishing a true attempt to fulfill any kind of contract, spelled out in detailed writing or not, and she didn't do that. Was time for her to go, and with less money than she hoped to scam into her grubby hands too. We need to hold lazy, skeezer tutes fully accountable for their behavior! And stop being all one-sided and making it all about the monger all the time when things go wrong due to a failure of the meeting of the minds regarding the contract, which very commonly is not in writing with every detail of specific performance noted, which is the case when we're fucking these tutes. In this case, the buyer had a reasonable expectation to receive BBBJ / CIM service based on the verbal promises and representations of the parties. The facts as we know them show that the tute acted in bad faith. Judgment in favor of the monger!
In your opinion it was not what you agreed on. To her BBBJ could be her putting her mouth on it for even 1 second, while to you it is her doing nothing but mouth for 30 minutes straight. Also she agreed that you could finish IN her mouth. She did not agree that she would make you finish WITH her mouth.It was you who framed this in terms of a "contract" and that's right. It might not be legally enforceable I don't know, but it's still a contract nevertheless. And when you look at who was obligated to do what under the terms of a contract, you have to look at what was the intent of the parties. What was it they both expected to get out of the deal? What they agreed to was that she would perform certain specified services for an agreed upon sum. We know that much. And would a reasonable person expect she could perform BBBJ / CIM service by having a dick in her mouth for one second? No! Once again twisting concepts and just throwing reason to the wind in favor of poorly performing service providers. If the facts as he told them are true, then IMHO the man did the right thing, and could have paid even less.
I checked out Sweetyme's profile. She is very good looking.
What has not been discussed are Gargano's attributes.
Does he have good hygiene? Is he old and fat? Does his ethnicity impact service? Does he have a repellent personality?
Crocodilexp
04-12-20, 16:02
To her BBBJ could be her putting her mouth on it for even 1 second
Yes, sure, and to the punter, "3000 baht" could mean, "I'll pay you 3000 when I'm happy with your performance, otherwise a nominal amount".
The business here is exchanging money for pleasure, not mere compliance. Giving 2000 was extremely generous given what he described.
In your opinion it was not what you agreed on. To her BBBJ could be her putting her mouth on it for even 1 second, while to you it is her doing nothing but mouth for 30 minutes straight.So if a girl rides you for 30 seconds and then give you handjob to finish. Will you give her full amount, considering you did put in her for 30 second?
Unless you are in both places now, how can you tell? Mr E seems to be doing great based on his posts.That's just one monger, on the Medellin site numerous guys are getting laid.
Mr Enternational
04-12-20, 17:02
Yes, sure, and to the punter, "3000 baht" could mean, "I'll pay you 3000 when I'm happy with your performance, otherwise a nominal amount".Well that was exactly what happened in this case was it not? When you ask for particulars then you need to be as specific as possible. Otherwise it can be open to interpretation. What one person assumes they will get may not be what the other person assumes they will have to give. For you BBBJ may be 2 licks, for me it could be 5 minutes with hand, and for Gargano it could be 30 minutes of pure throat. How was the service provider to know which one he intended if all was said was to suck me without a condom? She may not not know what he meant, only what he said.
I mean can you ethically tell someone this was not what I expected and pay them less after you both agreed to a price and they DID perform the agreed upon tasks? Whether you thought the job was done satisfactorily or not is purely subjective since there were no parameters or metrics established beforehand.I don't agree with this logic.
So if I hire a contractor to add a window, I tell the type of window size and everything. Tell him make sure to weather proof and replace siding, etc. He put the window in tiled and uses a different type of siding then the original. That is OK I should pay him the full amount?
We hire people in a profession because they know the trade. If she can only do a BJ with or without cover for 50 seconds that's not a BJ. Do we really need to say I want a BBBJ only with you lips, lots of spit, don't use your hand and do it for at least 10 minutes but not more then 20. Make sure you make moaning and slurping sounds. Come on really?
There should be some level of effort in any job when you are being paid for it. If you don't know the trade learn. The money paid does not fall off a tree its earned.
Agreed. My favorite gal with whom I always return to the well (and the Y) is an all round great shag, GFE, but she can't suck worth a dime. Even her HJ attempts when Johnson isn't cooperating are weak tea. But when we are in sync, it's outstanding.
Another lady is thin, unremarkable looks and not a great lay, but man can she suck pipe.
And finally, another will get totally nude and spend hours massage and cuddling and is really great to spend time with, but I never leave her place with more than a COB administered by hand.
I never go in with a checklist that I expect to get through before parting with my cash, except for the bottom line: mutual assured satisfaction, which each of us measures differently.
. Like any other thing on this planet, there are people good at it and people not good at it, through no fault of their own.
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I know some guys have a checklist that they want the girl to agree to when choosing a provider, but unless I am just really in the mood to do some shit like fuck a girl in the ass, then I will just go with the flow..
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And it may not have been anything that she was actively trying to do or not do. Like any other thing on this planet, there are people good at it and people not good at it, through no fault of their own. ...There can be a grey area where one is not certain if the lousy service you're getting is the result of ineptitude or a scam. In that case I will generally give the full agreed upon amount and move on.
But if it is an obvious scam attempt, as this one seemed to be based on the description, then rewarding the girl for the attempt fucks it up for the next guys way more than overpaying for decent service ever would.
I think the OP has been around enough to have accurately identified this case as an obvious scam. Therefore, I applaud and thank him for giving her less than the agreed upon amount.
As in your observation above, when I feel certain I have been scammed by the girl, I find myself "not good" at counting out the full amount of money somewhere at or before the halfway mark, through no fault of my own.
Last evening I wasn't going to meet anyone but got horny after watching a movie. So I started looking for agencies on web. I have avoided all agencies except Smooci so far but even that one I use very rarely. Came across this site topescortbabes, it has same girls from other agencies, just almost no reviews. Found this chick, Sweetyme (Line name, gigi) from Laos who was on "top 1" in bkk LOL. Contacted her on line and she agreed to meet in couple of hours. Now if I'm meeting someone like that, I always go for a video call to verify the pics. She said no, I said bye bye. She then agreed to do a quick call, and her pics are genuine. But her voice was very ladyboy-ish. I asked her on call, "are you ladyboy? She said "noooo". But I wasn't convinced so asked for her thai ID, unfortunately she said she's not from Thailand and from Laos. So, I asked for passport to verify her gender, otherwise can't meet. After few minutes of back and forth she proved she is a girl. Then came the price. She asked for 5 k for 1 shot. HAHAHAHAHA. I countered 3 k. She said 4. 5 k and this went on for 5-6 messages. By then we agreed to 3 k. Also agreed to BBBJ, CFS or CIM.
Now she came on time, looking hot, She asked for money first, and I showed her the gate. Learned a while back, giving money in advance is worst thing you can do. We went for shower and washed each other. Actually she washed me, I was just playing with her boobs. Went to bed and she took my clothes off and started sucking me. It was decent, not deep though. But like in 30 seconds she took the condom. I was like, "wtf, I want you to suck more". And here she started all the drama, "no no I sucked little already". I should've kicked her out right then, but I went with it. She did suck me for 20 more seconds. Started with women on top, my chest and her boobs rubbing against each, that was the best part. She moved back and forth slowly for good couple of minutes before I stood up and moved to mis. From now on, it just went downhill. She was maybe expecting me to come quickly. But I was pounding her good. In this position, she just closed her eyes and acted like a deadfish. It was like I am fucking a corpse. Not very arousing right? Moved to doggy and pounded for 2 minutes. I was quite hard but I knew it, I ain't going to come like that. Asked her to finish me by BBBJ CIM. She started sucking me, for like 5 seconds and then started giving me handjob. I explained her I don't want handjob, she has to finish me by BJ..First time poster here, but just got to let you know. She's a post op ladyboy. She used to go by the name Marie for a long time, she'd always prop up on escort websites and I knew a guy who knew her personally in Bangkok. She's from Thailand, she just says Laos so she doesn't have to show her Thai ID that shows she is a man. Do some further research, I'm sure her ladyboy profiles still exist somewhere.
CzarNicholas
04-13-20, 04:17
Last evening I wasn't going to meet anyone but got horny after watching a movie. So I started looking for agencies on web. I have avoided all agencies except Smooci so far but even that one I use very rarely. Came across this site topescortbabes, it has same girls from other agencies, just almost no reviews. Found this chick, Sweetyme (Line name, gigi) from Laos who was on "top 1" in bkk LOL. Contacted her on line and she agreed to meet in couple of hours. Now if I'm meeting someone like that, I always go for a video call to verify the pics. She said no, I said bye bye. She then agreed to do a quick call, and her pics are genuine. But her voice was very ladyboy-ish. I asked her on call, "are you ladyboy? She said "noooo". But I wasn't convinced so asked for her thai ID, unfortunately she said she's not from Thailand and from Laos. So, I asked for passport to verify her gender, otherwise can't meet. After few minutes of back and forth she proved she is a girl. Then came the price. She asked for 5 k for 1 shot. HAHAHAHAHA. I countered 3 k. She said 4. 5 k and this went on for 5-6 messages. By then we agreed to 3 k. Also agreed to BBBJ, CFS or CIM.
Now she came on time, looking hot, She asked for money first, and I showed her the gate. Learned a while back, giving money in advance is worst thing you can do. We went for shower and washed each other. Actually she washed me, I was just playing with her boobs. Went to bed and she took my clothes off and started sucking me. It was decent, not deep though. But like in 30 seconds she took the condom. I was like, "wtf, I want you to suck more". And here she started all the drama, "no no I sucked little already". I should've kicked her out right then, but I went with it. She did suck me for 20 more seconds. Started with women on top, my chest and her boobs rubbing against each, that was the best part. She moved back and forth slowly for good couple of minutes before I stood up and moved to mis. From now on, it just went downhill. She was maybe expecting me to come quickly. But I was pounding her good. In this position, she just closed her eyes and acted like a deadfish. It was like I am fucking a corpse. Not very arousing right? Moved to doggy and pounded for 2 minutes. I was quite hard but I knew it, I ain't going to come like that. Asked her to finish me by BBBJ CIM. She started sucking me, for like 5 seconds and then started giving me handjob. I explained her I don't want handjob, she has to finish me by BJ. She sucked me for 5 seconds and here comes handjob again. It happened 3-4 times and I was like fuck it. Asked her to stop and said "that's it". Worst part, she didn't even try, just stood up and asked for money. Now I didn't come and she was as interesting as like a tree. I gave her 2000 be. And as expected she started acting like she should be getting full amount. I told her I'm being very generous and she should be happy I gave this. Once she knew, I ain't about to budge, she went to bathroom, changed and left. Some might feel that I should've paid full, because we fucked and it was me who couldn't come. But it's her zero interest and complete inability to give a BBBJ for more than 30 seconds, which forced me give her less.
After a series 4 good experiences I was in for a bad one. That's the part of game.
WIR. LOL.
Will I recommend? - If you're looking for a girl with decent boobs, with no PSE and GFE and will just lay there for you to fuck. Sure go ahead. Jokes apart, avoid her.
You are too nice LOL no seriously you are LOL.
#1 hooker asks for money up front STAT.
Abort the mission, even if she stays, she is going to be trouble.
Why else do you think she wants the money upfront she's trouble.
#2 you had a 2nd chance to boot her ass out the door at the beginning with the bullshit blowjob.
I will say, it was already over when she asked for the money upfront.
A good working girl doesn't need to get the cash upfront.
She will fuck and suck you so good, they are the ones that some guys even tip.
But most definitely you should have physically thrown her shit out the door GTFO with the bullshit blowjob.
3000 in these times, no barfine OMG LOL.
She can the police outside if she wants, I ain't givin that ***** 1 thb let alone 2000, she laughed her ass back home with 2000.
You did not get 2000 thb of anything.
CzarNicholas
04-13-20, 04:30
Last evening I wasn't going to meet anyone but got horny after watching a movie. So I started looking for agencies on web. I have avoided all agencies except Smooci so far but even that one I use very rarely. Came across this site topescortbabes, it has same girls from other agencies, just almost no reviews. Found this chick, Sweetyme (Line name, gigi) from Laos who was on "top 1" in bkk LOL. Contacted her on line and she agreed to meet in couple of hours. Now if I'm meeting someone like that, I always go for a video call to verify the pics. She said no, I said bye bye. She then agreed to do a quick call, and her pics are genuine. But her voice was very ladyboy-ish. I asked her on call, "are you ladyboy? She said "noooo". But I wasn't convinced so asked for her thai ID, unfortunately she said she's not from Thailand and from Laos. So, I asked for passport to verify her gender, otherwise can't meet. After few minutes of back and forth she proved she is a girl. Then came the price. She asked for 5 k for 1 shot. HAHAHAHAHA. I countered 3 k. She said 4. 5 k and this went on for 5-6 messages. By then we agreed to 3 k. Also agreed to BBBJ, CFS or CIM.
But I heard trump had a famous saying on the apprentice "you're fired" LOL.
Well some brothels that know me in certain countries know me for a certain saying LOL.
If I take a girl to a room, I am famous at a couple places for yelling with the door open within 1-2 mins.
GTFO of my room.
Zero money.
Any bait in switch is usually detectable within 15 seconds into the room.
The earlier you abort the better.
I will even say call the police if you want LOL.
One day ill write about an event in Las Vegas.
That had many many police cars and the police helicopter with the spotlight in my hotel parking lot.
I didn't pay her a penny and I didn't go to jail LOL.
There was a high speed police chase with some guys she was with LOL.
It was a very crazy drunken night in Las Vegas LOL.
That's just one monger, on the Medellin site numerous guys are getting laid.Gargano19 reports got laid with numerous girls. Check out his reports.
I think none are good because we can't get there.
Mr Enternational
04-13-20, 05:00
I checked out Sweetyme's profile. She is very good looking.
What has not been discussed are Gargano's attributes.
Does he have good hygiene? Is he old and fat? Does his ethnicity impact service? Does he have a repellent personality?His attributes were 3000 baht. He was hiring her; she was not hiring him. When those Dubai guys hire those western chicks to come over and let them take a shit all over them, they are not thinking of any other attribute besides the money.
Gargano19 reports got laid with numerous girls. Check out his reports.
I think none are good because we can't get there.For me the biggest problem is, all my favorite / regulars are gone. And gogos are closed. So I have to rely on word of mouth of other girls who recommend someone to me, my really old contacts on line, and trying agency/site once (didn't turn out well LOL). But good part is I have met 2 new girls who are just amazing and I can see them few more times.
Mr Enternational
04-14-20, 03:08
Gargano19 reports got laid with numerous girls.Dudes too according to his first impression and according to Dave.
First time poster here, but just got to let you know. She's a post op ladyboy. She used to go by the name Marie for a long time, she'd always prop up on escort websites and I knew a guy who knew her personally in Bangkok. She's from Thailand, she just says Laos so she doesn't have to show her Thai ID that shows she is a man. Do some further research, I'm sure her ladyboy profiles still exist somewhere.
Mr Enternational
04-14-20, 03:19
I'm so glad that you all like the thin ones with little to no boobage because that means more big boobs (with hopefully semi-slim body) for me! Bro I was thinking about you the other day. I usually don't take pics but told her I had to get one for my man D before she left.
First time poster here, but just got to let you know. She's a post op ladyboy. She used to go by the name Marie for a long time, she'd always prop up on escort websites and I knew a guy who knew her personally in Bangkok. She's from Thailand, she just says Laos so she doesn't have to show her Thai ID that shows she is a man. Do some further research, I'm sure her ladyboy profiles still exist somewhere.Like I said, the first fail was him having "her" come over in the first place. None of it ever should have happened. Should have never gone down with all of the warning bells sounding like they were, including that "mannish" voice. But, he acted against his better judgment, and just got played all the way around if this is true. Scammed! And he never did say how it was otherwise proven that he was supposedly dealing with a chick. I mean, they've gotten really good at making fake pussies these days!
First time poster here, but just got to let you know. She's a post op ladyboy. She used to go by the name Marie for a long time, she'd always prop up on escort websites and I knew a guy who knew her personally in Bangkok. She's from Thailand, she just says Laos so she doesn't have to show her Thai ID that shows she is a man. Do some further research, I'm sure her ladyboy profiles still exist somewhere.LOL she showed me her Laos passport, maybe they started to give new passports after post-op surgery. Also she showed her two way tickets from Laos, she is stuck here because of flight ban.
But thanks for your first report. Looking forward to see your FRs.
Yes, first one here.
I had some good success with Tinder in some places, mostly in Easter Europe. But never tried to use it here. So now with limited options, and eager to try new girls as much as possible, I started using tinder since last week.
How was my experience? Well it's full of WGs. WGs won't take long to tell you their price. Most prices thrown at me were 2 k for ST but I didn't entertain any. All were 6 at best and 3 at worst. Got some good 7-8's matches too, but they didn't seem like WG to me.
But then this match, she was 7. 5-8 in my book. Her English was decent, so we talked about lots of things. Talked about her life and career, bashed China and etc etc. I had a feeling that she could be a WG but I was busy with other girls, so didn't ask her yet. But this Monday morning she texted me and said am I interested in having lunch? Well duh!! But I played it cool and said something about social distancing and all restaurants are closed anyway. Then she said we takeout and eat at my place or order something. Now this was kind of got obvious for me, so I took a risk and asked will I be getting something extra for some benefits for her. And she said "it depends". Now it was open field, I suggested 2 k for ST. She laughed and said 3. 5 k. We ended up with 2. 5 k. Decided to meet at my place in evening. Now I almost forget, there was another girl who was about to meet me around 3 pm on same day. And guess what, she pinged me at 2;50 and says she is in my lobby LOL. Now I had no idea, should I just ask her to go. I already cancelled our meeting once before last week. So asked her to come up. We had a deal decided for 3 k ST. I suggested that she just blow me and I will give her 1. 5 k. She agreed. She blew me good and took all the come in her mouth, though some did fell on floor, no problem. Gave her money and she seemed happy.
Now in around 90 minutes, this tinder girl was on door knocking. I open and she was indeed 7. 5. Her pics were 8 because she did some touch up, fair enough. As agreed she bought dinner. We talked for a while, drank some wine and then started kissing. She pulled her face back and yes "no kissing". I was expecting that. I obliged and took my pants off. And she gave me kind of decent BBBJ. Lots of balls eating, licking and spitting. I was about to come, so asked her to stop. Put the rubber on, pounded in missionary, then doggy, then standing doggy near my kitchen. And came in rubber. Cleaned up and gave her money. We talked about other things during dinner, and it's just great to fuck a wg who can actually talk about things other than her dickhead thai boyfriend. Around 8 pm, I suggested she should leave because of curfew. She asked if she can stay. This got me abit off guard and I politely declined. Took her to grab and off she went.
Now yesterday I was feeling bored and talking to her. So I asked her again to come for St, same price. Same routine. This time when ahe was about to leave, I asked her if she wanted to stay. Told her we can watch movies and thought she could suck me whole night haha. She agreed and didn't ask for anything extra. Exactly what I expected. Now cutting it short, for full night I made her come countless times by DATY, fingering, and fucking. She made me come 3 times, two times by blowing including in morning and once by riding on me. Watched some Korean movie with subtitles. Before she left I gave her some extra money, she completely deserved it.
I will be sticking to Tinder for a while I guess.
Bro I was thinking about you the other day. I usually don't take pics but told her I had to get one for my man D before she left.Thanks, Mr. E! Nice one! Love the caption on her bra! Safe travels!
NatureBoy92
04-18-20, 20:01
Hey guys,
I am scheduled to come to Bangkok as soon as the lockdown opens. I just wanted to ask you guys are there any Latina WGs in Bangkok? I understand you guys would be thinking why don't I go to Southern America. I am from India and flight ticket from India to Southern America is equivalent to the whole budget of my Bangkok trip. Bangkok is the most affordable destination for us and we are not even charged for the visa fee. I have a huge thing for Latinas so any inputs would be great.
Banana Boi
04-18-20, 21:15
I am scheduled to come to Bangkok as soon as the lockdown opens. You along with everyone else so be prepared for it to be extremely busy once Thailand reopens their borders.
I just wanted to ask you guys are there any Latina WGs in Bangkok? I understand you guys would be thinking why don't I go to Southern America. I am from India and flight ticket from India to Southern America is equivalent to the whole budget of my Bangkok trip. Bangkok is the most affordable destination for us and we are not even charged for the visa fee. I have a huge thing for Latinas so any inputs would be great.The answer is no unless you can hook up with a civilian Latina. I did meet a Thai girl at Sapphire in 2016 who I would have mistaken as a hot Latina. Save your pennies and go to South America when you can afford to. Don't know which city you are from and your SA destination but I just priced out a September round trip flight between New Delhi and Rio and it is 930 USD. If that's your entire budget including flight, hotel, and girls in Bangkok you aren't going to have much fun, unless your Thailand trip is a very short one.
If you're on a budget and actually want Asian girls, Kuala Lumpur, Ho Chi Minh, Jakarta, and Phnom Penh would be cheaper from India. Cheap to stay and eat in all cities. Flights should not be too expensive from India. Girls in Phnom Penh and Jakarta are a fraction of the cost than in Bangkok. 50 to 70 USD all night in Phnom Penh.
Hey guys,
I am scheduled to come to Bangkok as soon as the lockdown opens. I just wanted to ask you guys are there any Latina WGs in Bangkok? I understand you guys would be thinking why don't I go to Southern America. I am from India and flight ticket from India to Southern America is equivalent to the whole budget of my Bangkok trip. Bangkok is the most affordable destination for us and we are not even charged for the visa fee. I have a huge thing for Latinas so any inputs would be great.Best bet would be Mixx, last time I was there (January) there were some Colombian / Brazilian girls there.
I'm ready for the borders to open and the fun to start again. I'm only an hour away!
Hey guys,
I am scheduled to come to Bangkok as soon as the lockdown opens. I just wanted to ask you guys are there any Latina WGs in Bangkok? I understand you guys would be thinking why don't I go to Southern America. I am from India and flight ticket from India to Southern America is equivalent to the whole budget of my Bangkok trip. Bangkok is the most affordable destination for us and we are not even charged for the visa fee. I have a huge thing for Latinas so any inputs would be great.Not sure if you checked previous posts on this thread already, but I would recommend you to do so. You will get the idea of prices. You don't want to come here for mongering if you're on low budget.
Gogos will cost you 3500-4000 b atleast. Thermae will cost around 2500-3000 b. Clubs can range from 2000-6000 b, depending on who you approach. Massage shops will be 2000 b and doki doki will be around 3000 b for nuru. You can get street freelancers at 500-1000, but I can only suggest to stay away from them.
Theae are pre-lockdown prices, I am not going to predict post-lockdown prices.
No, you won't find any popular place where latina WGs work. But I knew couple of WGs from Columbia, no idea if they're still here.
Pretty sure Brazil is also visa free. Try there. Save some money and go there and you will get cheaper and better pussies in rio.
Franciscass
04-19-20, 08:35
You along with everyone else so be prepared for it to be extremely busy once Thailand reopens I can see it now, tens of thousands of horny farangs dicks in their hands massing at the border waiting for the gates to open.
Mr Enternational
04-19-20, 09:29
No, you won't find any popular place where latina WGs work. But I knew couple of WGs from Columbia, no idea if they're still here.The Colombians used to come from Hong Kong to reset their time for there. I have not seen any in years.
The Colombians used to come from Hong Kong to reset their time for there. I have not seen any in years.Could be true. I met one at Sugar last year, then met her friend through her. Experience was ordinary but it's fun just to refresh things up.
.................Gogos will cost you 3500-4000 b atleast. Thermae will cost around 2500-3000 b. Clubs can range from 2000-6000 b, depending on who you approach. Massage shops will be 2000 b and doki doki will be around 3000 b for nuru. You can get street freelancers at 500-1000, but I can only suggest to stay away from them.
Theae are pre-lockdown prices, I am not going to predict post-lockdown prices...............Prices will depend on the number of arriving farang. If there is a huge influx prices will go up. If there are reduced arrivals due to a flagging economy and reduced income of foreigners then prices should go down.
I can see it now, tens of thousands of horny farangs dicks in their hands massing at the border waiting for the gates to open.Really?
Even if Thai government opens international flights, how many guys would have confidence to come here via international flight? And how many would have actually money to spend on banging chicks, amid layoffs and pay cuts?
Really?
Even if Thai government opens international flights, how many guys would have confidence to come here via international flight? And how many would have actually money to spend on banging chicks, amid layoffs and pay cuts?It seems you don't have a great sense of irony.
Crocodilexp
04-19-20, 19:54
are there any Latina WGs in Bangkok? There surely aren't any right now. There have been very few in the past, I'm sure someone at some point spotted a Latina, but effectively zero. I hooked up with a Brazilian civilian on Sukhumvit once, but that was many years ago. Whether there would be any in the future is anyone's guess, but I really doubt too many Latinas are lining up to hop on one of the first inbound flights.
For foreign WGs, Kuala Lumpur used to have a much broader selection than Bangkok.
If you're into Latinas, try to make it to Columbia. I hear prices are much cheaper than Thailand, and you might actually save money in the end if you do a sufficient amount of mongering. Unfortunately, post-Covid world might be different in unpredictable ways.
Hey guys,
I am scheduled to come to Bangkok as soon as the lockdown opens. I just wanted to ask you guys are there any Latina WGs in Bangkok? I understand you guys would be thinking why don't I go to Southern America. I am from India and flight ticket from India to Southern America is equivalent to the whole budget of my Bangkok trip. Bangkok is the most affordable destination for us and we are not even charged for the visa fee. I have a huge thing for Latinas so any inputs would be great.Hi,
I have met some latinas in Mixx disco in Pattaya 2 years ago and they charge a lot more than Thais. For example a fat Colombian girl wanted 16000 baht for long time. No way in my opinion was she worth it.
I have also met girls from Russia wanting between 5000-8000 baht for long time and Uzbekistan girls wanting between 3000-5000 baht.
I can see it now, tens of thousands of horny farangs dicks in their hands massing at the border waiting for the gates to open.Ditto. Anyone have any guess on how soon that may be?
I think even people like me who have mongering opportunities closer to home just want to get out and get to Pattaya for a change of scenery.
Bro I was thinking about you the other day. I usually don't take pics but told her I had to get one for my man D before she left.My gal K__ actually sent me this pic of her and her most recent client. Her ass is a bit big for me but she's a very energetic escort with a 400 HP sex drive.
The Tall Man
04-20-20, 01:50
The Colombians used to come from Hong Kong to reset their time for there. I have not seen any in years.Mr E I see that you really make your way around the world.
Interesting comment about Colombians in HK, as you may know I live in Medellin Colombia and have more chicas here than I know what to do with, hehehehe.
The Tall Man.
Franciscass
04-20-20, 03:35
Really?
Even if Thai government opens international flights, how many guys would have confidence to come here via international flight? And how many would have actually money to spend on banging chicks, amid layoffs and pay cuts?The comment was meant to be tongue in cheek but you raise the interesting question of what the P4P scene here and elsewhere will be like going forward. In my opinion the issues surrounding easing of international travel restrictions and personal budgets health concerns will mean it will a slow return to pre crisis norms but as can be seen from the posts of some seasoned members they are chomping at the bit to get back in the saddle. Incidentally word on the street is that May 1st will see some significant lifting of guidelines expiring end of April but difficult to know until we see the details how this effects why this forum exists.
Hi,
I have met some latinas in Mixx disco in Pattaya 2 years ago and they charge a lot more than Thais. For example a fat Colombian girl wanted 16000 baht for long time. No way in my opinion was she worth it.
I have also met girls from Russia wanting between 5000-8000 baht for long time and Uzbekistan girls wanting between 3000-5000 baht.Real Russian Girls look for 10 K.
Russian girls that ask for 8 k are really Uzbek.
If I girl tells you she is Uzbek, she is probably Kazakh.
I love them all.
Hi,
I have met some latinas in Mixx disco in Pattaya 2 years ago and they charge a lot more than Thais. For example a fat Colombian girl wanted 16000 baht for long time. No way in my opinion was she worth it.
I have also met girls from Russia wanting between 5000-8000 baht for long time and Uzbekistan girls wanting between 3000-5000 baht.Yep that much usually I have paid for uzbeks or russians for the first time. Then for second and third time I reduce it to 2000-3000 and most are fine with it.
For Columbian girls I met, I paid 3000 for St for both. 16000 for fat chick LOL. Though I have heard similar crazy prices a lot in Moscow. Just this morning, one chick asked me on tinder for 8000 for ST and 15000 for LT. I asked I want whatever she's having. Pics were hot, and she looked an 8, but I am not in mood to spend 8 k for a release. Didn't even bother to ask for her ID.
....Just this morning, one chick asked me on tinder for 8000 for ST and 15000 for LT. I asked I want whatever she's having. Pics were hot, and she looked an 8, but I am not in mood to spend 8 k for a release. Didn't even bother to ask for her ID.Such pics always set off my ladyboy alarm. Line handle Jennica. This is from "her" Line which I got some time ago from Tinder when I was still a Gold member. I didn't follow up. Never do in such cases. Anywhere but Thailand maybe I would give it a try, not here.
Such pics always set off my ladyboy alarm. Line handle Jennica. This is from "her" Line which I got some time ago from Tinder when I was still a Gold member. I didn't follow up. Never do in such cases. Anywhere but Thailand maybe I would give it a try, not here.Yes her veins in hand were quite obvious, that's why I mentioned ID. If her fee was realistic, I would have asked for thai ID.
Just another day, another one messaged me for ST 1. 5 k. Again lb-ish signs. Asked for thai ID and I was expecting no reply. But strangely she replied with snap of thai ID which showed she's a girl. But on more closer look, her pics on line and pic in ID card were not really a match, but were quite close. But different enough for me to ignore her.
Ditto. Anyone have any guess on how soon that may be?
I think even people like me who have mongering opportunities closer to home just want to get out and get to Pattaya for a change of scenery.If I'm not mistaken I think you are in Germany. I do believe the mongering scene will open up much sooner in Thailand than in Germany. As a matter of fact there appears to be a smattering of carnal activities in Pattaya now.
Pointy Stick
04-20-20, 15:35
Really?
Even if Thai government opens international flights, how many guys would have confidence to come here via international flight? And how many would have actually money to spend on banging chicks, amid layoffs and pay cuts?I agree. The stats haven't even come out yet but the US has 22 million unemployed plus millions of others on forced annual or unpaid leave. Europe is in a similar situation. Most guys will be more concerned with if they have a job let alone holiday in Thailand. The AUD has been in free fall for 18 months and I can get an Asian WL for 2 k in Sydney so why would I want to get on a plane to Thailand to pay 3.5 k? I can't see the prices of airline seats getting cheaper. It literally doesn't make any sense for mongers to go to Thailand if they could. Who knows when another outbreak could occur and then you're trapped again or best case scenario you make it home and it's two weeks quarantine in a hotel you have to pay for and quite possibly lose your job. And for what, over priced pussy LOL.
Mr Enternational
04-20-20, 16:55
Yes her veins in hand were quite obvious, that's why I mentioned ID. If her fee was realistic, I would have asked for thai ID.Or just ask for a normal, plain picture with no makeup. I would never choose a chick from glamour shot pics. I want to see how she is going to look the next morning.
If I'm not mistaken I think you are in Germany. I do believe the mongering scene will open up much sooner in Thailand than in Germany. As a matter of fact there appears to be a smattering of carnal activities in Pattaya now.Correcto.
I think you may be right, as I doubt they'll allow the FKKs to reopen with guests wearing facemasks during a room.
But no point in going there if they won't let me past the airport. Not sure when the entry restrictions expire for Thailand?
Yesterday met this girl again after seeing her during initial phase of lockdown. For me she's hot enough to repeat once in a while but service is just decent, so never going to be one of my regular. Pinged her the other night if she's free to meet next day, and she enthusiastically agreed obviously. While chatting she sent me a video clip of some ad she did recently for some kind of perfume. On my surprise she told me it's from Jan, and they just released it now social media platforms. As all her modeling assignments have been halted for now, she was insisting for LT for 5 k instead. I sticked to ST 3 k.
After dinner she came to my place in a nice dress, around 7 pm. We talked for a while ranging from various topics, and she showed me her previous photoshoots. I asked if there are other models who "work" like her, she said she don't know. Obviously she don't want to introduce someone else, it will affect her business with me.
So we started with shower, lots of kissing in there. I asked her to blow me there on her knees and she was more than happy to do it. She did it for 4-5 minutes with lots of spitting and saliva drooling from her mouth (thankfully we were in shower and not on my bed). Couldn't come, so moved to bed and she started riding me. Unlike many other girls, she never jumps like Rabbit on my dick. She moves back and forward and maintains an eye contact, well she's experienced. I never come in this position, so moved to doggy and come then. After cleaning up, I checked fridge amd my booze stock was taking it's last breath. Still decided to open a wine bottle and had couple of glasses of wine with her. She asked me to come to her set someday to see the shoot, not sure if she's serious. If I was in her place, I won't encourage clients to come on sets. But we'll see if she's being serious after lockdown. Second shot was same, few positions and come in doggy. Gave her the money and sent her down to taxi. Her Service was way better this time, so might see her again next month.
Saw this chick on tinder last week. After matching she didn't seem like WG. Talked about her work and her girlfriend. She is bi. So I didn't try my luck initially and just kept talking about usual stuff.
Earlier this week when I was bored and horny, which is what I am lately all the time, I asked her how she is doing money wise. She said she needs money a lot these days as her job is having pay cuts. I asked how she's handling it, and she said she is doing freelancers. Haha why didn't say that before. She said she's meeting few clients through her friend only who works in some clubs at soi 31, she asked if I want to meet. Duh yes I said we can meet and I will give 2000. She said she wants to meet but for 3 k. Now 3 k is my pretty usual amount I give for ST when I feel girl is pretty enough, in her case I was worried about performance. As I don't know how long she's doing this. I countered, and said 2 k base and if she's good I will give a very good tip. I highlighted the word "very". After some hesitation she agreed. Decided to meet this morning. Yes I am writing this report just after meeting her, because I have nothing better to do. Fuck and write LOL.
So she came outside of my condo, I was already there and she saw me from bike. She was looking pretty with very tight dress. After reaching room she asked for money and I said no. She kindof seemed upset and said she is worried I won't give money later. I don't know why but I gave her 2000 b right then. I know, risky. She took the money and said, "okay, I am leaving bye bye". Haha okay she had some sense of humor though I didn't found joke funny.
After we went to shower and she cleaned my jock with her soft hands. Her skin was softest I had in months. While cleaning, she asked "can I kiss it". Me, "not while soap is on it". I can joke too. She cleaned it and sat on her knees and sucked it amazingly. Not deep but very soft and sensual. I love it when girls do it on their own instead of me asking. After that we moved to bed. There was lots of foreplay before condom was out, she again sucked me good. Before I was about to come, I put the rubber on. I was rock hard but moment I put condom I was gone again. She sucked again to make me hard. She is awesome! We did some spooning while sitting and she did some great strokes. Then I pushed her onto bed and pounded her. She started screaming, really loud. So I put my mouth on hers and my toungue started wandering her mouth. While I was still pounding her. She was little sensitive with her boobs when I was pressing them too hard. I think we stayed in miss for 10 minutes before we both came together. She squirted huge amount from her pussy on my bed. Great.
After that we just cuddled and talked about her life. Gave her 1 k tip and she asked when can we meet again. Well I will be meeting her tomorrow again for whole night for same amount LOL.
Got this new one on Tinder. Little bit about her, she works (worked) at some Gentleman club near thong lo. Never been into those much, so can't remember the name. She is 20, part time student. Her English on tinder was pretty impressive and she was upfront about her service, which is good because it saves my time. Agreed on 3 k ST. Arrived on floor in tank top and jeans, and very friendly. Not as friendly as the girl I am seeing a lot lately, who can't keep her mouth away from my dick, but this one will work too.
In room we talked basic things for a while, no rush from her. Asked if she wants to order lunch, and ahe thought for a sec and politely declined. Now to the act. She said she is shy and want to shower alone. Which I agreed to. After we both were finished showering, she took my towel off and gave me okay-ish BJ. Her mouth was soft and hot, as a 20's mouth should be. So I showed some patience and told her some tricks. Things she can do with tounge and what should be the rythem. And how to avoid teeth touching the skin. And she was a quick learner and within few minutes was giving pretty decent BBBJ. To be frank, I enjoyed teaching her how to do it more than actual BJ. She asked if I want to come on her boobs, which were be cup. I declined and started kissing her body. I paid extra attention to her soft and fresh belly. She moaned all the time which kept me hard. Took the condom and went in. Very tight as I was hoping for. I took it slow and moved from one position to another couple of times. After 5 minutes, she squirted a canon of her fluid all over my condom and bed. Haha. I went in again, this time with the intention to come and in couple of minutes I blasted all my come in condom. I went to clean up first, then her. After coming from bathroom she just cuddled with me and asked if we can order something. I did and she left in evening after lunch and rest. Interestingly I usually go for second shot in this situation but this time I didn't. Paid her 3 k and some tip as she needed some money. Might not be seeing her again I guess because if other girls in my queue. Tomorrow I will be seeing a russian / Ukrainian / whatever chick. The previous girl I met few days back introduced me to her, both work in same modeling agency. Will write a report if something interesting happened.
Steve 9696
05-01-20, 15:25
Thanks Gargano for having actual sex! And writing about it!
Love that you are able to stream hotties daily. No such luck here in Pussy Prison USA but I have been able to settle in with a local SB found on Seeking Arrangement and at least get a bit from time to time. I know some folks are completely high and dry which sucks.
I love that you are doing the Tinder semi pros. When I listed my top 5 from last year four of the five were non-pro Seeking girls. There is something about them being fresher and more real. And yeah I have had to coach the BJ a bit — mostly around licking and sucking balls which seems to be relatively new for some or not in their usual wheelhouse. All took to it immediately and did a good job. The other nice thing with these more girlfriendy types is swallow. I'm probably better than 50% on my SBs swallow without batting an eye.
Only started with the "real girls" and semi-pros about a year ago and have to say I love it (ton of work tho to find them and sort them from the rest. Fortunately I enjoy this.).
Thanks Gargano for having actual sex! And writing about it!
Love that you are able to stream hotties daily. No such luck here in Pussy Prison USA but I have been able to settle in with a local SB found on Seeking Arrangement and at least get a bit from time to time. I know some folks are completely high and dry which sucks.
I love that you are doing the Tinder semi pros. When I listed my top 5 from last year four of the five were non-pro Seeking girls. There is something about them being fresher and more real. And yeah I have had to coach the BJ a bit mostly around licking and sucking balls which seems to be relatively new for some or not in their usual wheelhouse. All took to it immediately and did a good job. The other nice thing with these more girlfriendy types is swallow. I'm probably better than 50% on my SBs swallow without batting an eye.
Only started with the "real girls" and semi-pros about a year ago and have to say I love it (ton of work tho to find them and sort them from the rest. Fortunately I enjoy this.).I have heard USA is super dry right now. Thailand seems like full of supply based on my Line notifications and reports in Pattaya thread. I guess girls here don't keep much of savings so they were more keen to take risks and meet us, though now things are settled down a bit.
Yes I enjoy semi pros too a bit more than pros, because most pros are very mechanical. But they all have their pros and cons. Full pro girls are very punctual and there's rarely bait and switch with them. Semi pros can cancel meeting anytime and sometimes they're late and sometimes they're early. But if we can get some chemistry with them, they can give great GFE. Right now I'm seeing 3 girls regularly, which are in Bangkok, 2 of them I met after lockdown from Tinder and one I met last year in a club. All are keen to make me happy to make sure repeat visits and great GFE.
Hoping you get out of states soon and start fucking some new chicks.
No shortage of girls thanks to tinder. But curfew after 10, and social distancing in restaurants and bars (which can't sell drinks so they're not really bars) are making things really mundane. Couple of places where I loved to hangout with my girls and buddies, are starting to open but they have so many rules in there. One place requested us not to sit more than 2 people together. Another place asked me and my girl to sit on adjacent seats LOL. There are places which are more relaxed regarding all this social distancing but they're nowhere around my place. And damn this bkk pol just trying to find people even standing outside their place even at 9:50, so that they can get their hands on their fuckin money. Just the other day I saw few people running from bts to their condos, at 9:35. From what bar girls telling me, bars / clubs are not going to open for atleast 2 more months.
Danny Duck
05-12-20, 07:05
No shortage of girls thanks to tinder. But curfew after 10, and social distancing in restaurants and bars (which can't sell drinks so they're not really bars) are making things really mundane. Couple of places where I loved to hangout with my girls and buddies, are starting to open but they have so many rules in there. One place requested us not to sit more than 2 people together. Another place asked me and my girl to sit on adjacent seats LOL. There are places which are more relaxed regarding all this social distancing but they're nowhere around my place. And damn this bkk pol just trying to find people even standing outside their place even at 9:50, so that they can get their hands on their fuckin money. Just the other day I saw few people running from bts to their condos, at 9:35. From what bar girls telling me, bars / clubs are not going to open for atleast 2 more months.I miss Nana Plaza very much.
I have heard USA is super dry right now...Probably in some areas, but not all. I am in the US now and have been here since March 16 when I returned from my last overseas trip. There are plenty of opportunities where I live. One just needs to have available funds.
Franciscass
05-12-20, 10:24
And damn this bkk pol just trying to find people even standing outside their place even at 9:50, so that they can get their hands on their fuckin money.Saddest I've seen in a while was the 80 year old French man dragged to the cop shop for walking on the beach having to hand over 50000 baht to go home. Luckily his woman was smart enough to get it back. It was later explained as a misunderstanding.
Danny Duck
05-12-20, 23:37
Is Nana Plaza landlords going to forego rent. Meaning just let the bars go scot free till this is over. I don't see how a bar can survive. Rainbows were already struggling before c19.
If play hardball I really don't see new tenants moving in anytime soon.
Is Nana Plaza landlords going to forego rent. Meaning just let the bars go scot free till this is over. I don't see how a bar can survive. Rainbows were already struggling before c19.
If play hardball I really don't see new tenants moving in anytime soon.From what I have heard, some have given 30-40% rent concession to bar owners but haven't heard complete forego yet. Maybe they will have to as no way nana or cowboy going to open anytime soon. Even the large groups are going to feel the heat now, 5-6 months of no income and still have to pay rent is not easy.
About new tenants, I don't think anyone wants to risk investing now unless they have enough funds to sustain till end of this year. And even when they open, no guarantee that they will turn profit. Only people with deep pockets can survive this.
Before Covid you could walk into a blowjob bar to get what you needed, now you need to plan.
That's new to me.
Tinder and TF are now the streets.
Had some good decent dates past couple of weeks, less expensive (700-1500 baht).
ST becomes often LT thanks to the curfew.
Tomorrow I will meet a Filipina, age 24, looking cute on pictures.
For a morning fuck.
But what I still miss is a girl just to suck my cock for few 100 baht.
Probably in some areas, but not all. I am in the US now and have been here since March 16 when I returned from my last overseas trip. There are plenty of opportunities where I live. One just needs to have available funds.For the first time I started using SA and its not too bad. I don't know for others but for me instantaneous gratification is not on the cards, kudos to those who get it. However, I've met some nice girls.
Found this chick on tinder. I might have swiped her right unknowingly because when we matched, I had no idea when did I like her. Well it's not the first time this happened and won't be last either. Anyways from pics she looked 5 at best, and usually I don't entertain them. But her first message was "I want to live with you". LOL ok that was first for me. So went ahead and talked with her. Already knew she was a pro. So she asked for 2000 for LT, I politely declined. She countered 1000 straight away. Now I almost got tempted but ended up telling her I was busy in something. I ain't going to bang her and pay money too for it, not her.
Is Nana Plaza landlords going to forego rent. Meaning just let the bars go scot free till this is over. I don't see how a bar can survive. Rainbows were already struggling before c19.
If play hardball I really don't see new tenants moving in anytime soon.Cosmos closing was already announced few days back. Now I have heard couple of bars on NPE also closing or looking for buyer. I don't know the names of bars yet. But it's not Rainbow for sure.
Danny Duck
05-17-20, 17:44
Cosmos closing was already announced few days back. Now I have heard couple of bars on NPE also closing or looking for buyer. I don't know the names of bars yet. But it's not Rainbow for sure.On occasion I'll venture in bars not named Rainbow. Pre C19 I don't get how they survive.
Where's the customers?
Bam Boom Bam
05-21-20, 14:52
Part 2.
We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. On the way to the hotel, we get some sandwiches and soft drinks from 7-11. The sandwiches taste like crap. After eating in the room, she says you give me money. I tell her "Take your panty off and go take a shower. I give you money after. " I think she understood.
We are on the bed about to start. I tell her blowjob. She says condom. Covered blowjob wasn't what I was looking for. But it doesn't look like a BBBJ is going to happen. I probably should have kicked her out right then. Anyway, I put the condom on. She reluctantly sucks on it for literally 10 seconds and then stops, acting like I tried to stick a giant baseball bat down her throat. Fucking liar. As I'm pounding away missionary style, I try to kiss her. She freaks out. So I gently place my left hand below her hips and stick my index finger up her ass. It does not enter very far since she is very tight down there. She freaks out even more. At least it was not a giant baseball bat.
After about 10 minutes, I don't see it happening. I just want her to leave so I stop. I think about just giving her 2000 baht for lying about the blowjob. But I give her the 2500 baht.
It turns out she really is a college student. I can tell she hates going to Thermae. She needs to decide what she wants to be. If you want to be a hooker, then act like one. If you want to be a college student, then get the hell out of Thermae. It sure as hell looks like Mr. Syzygies is right about Thermae Cafe.Maybe useless now. But I found the girl in youtube.
The tall girl in dark between the minute marks 3:08 and 3:15.
Has a tattoo on her upper arm. Her watch is shiny in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMRfRf531k&list=UUfo2YyOxA3DnwPDbhwBHo7w&index=30
Bam Boom Bam
05-22-20, 08:13
What I observed last year.
Asian guy: How much longtime?
Thermae girl: 7,000 Baht.
Asian guy: OK, let's go.
Thermae girl: (Stunned it was that easy).
Off they go.
Maybe useless now. But I found the girl in youtube.
The tall girl in dark between the minute marks 3:08 and 3:15.
Has a tattoo on her upper arm. Her watch is shiny in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMRfRf531k&list=UUfo2YyOxA3DnwPDbhwBHo7w&index=30Her body language shows a pretty clear indication of what is to come. IMHO.
Guido88.
Bam Boom Bam
05-22-20, 10:05
Her body language shows a pretty clear indication of what is to come. IMHO.
Guido88.I know what you mean. But you are not seeing the whole picture. She wasn't like this when I met her. The girl in the video looks like she has problems. Of course, I would not have chosen her.
The girl in the video looks like she has problems.She looks like a real *****.
The only girl in that video I would have even considered was the one in the tight white t-shirt with the red outline showing her stomach. Thanks for sharing the video. It's good to be reminded how badly Thermae sucks.
Banana Boi
05-22-20, 15:49
I know what you mean. But you are not seeing the whole picture. She wasn't like this when I met her. The girl in the video looks like she has problems. Of course, I would not have chosen her.I remember your original review a couple of months ago as it caused quite a stir. IIRC you're a newbie to Thailand and you went to Thermae on your first night. Unless you are Japanese / Korean, Thermae likely wasn't your best choice to start your Thai adventures if you had high expectations for service. It's a convenient place to pick up girls for a competitive price for looks quality. It has no barfine and no lady drinks need to be ordered. It's not a place where service is the number 1 criteria for the girls although that is YMMV.
How did your subsequent Thailand experiences go? Where else did you get girls?
Guido, not sure how experienced you are about Thermae but that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.
that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.Why would they go to Thermae for any reason other than to lure a guy?
I remember your original review a couple of months ago as it caused quite a stir. IIRC you're a newbie to Thailand and you went to Thermae on your first night. Unless you are Japanese / Korean, Thermae likely wasn't your best choice to start your Thai adventures if you had high expectations for service. It's a convenient place to pick up girls for a competitive price for looks quality. It has no barfine and no lady drinks need to be ordered. It's not a place where service is the number 1 criteria for the girls although that is YMMV.
How did your subsequent Thailand experiences go? Where else did you get girls?
Guido, not sure how experienced you are about Thermae but that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.I used to defend Therame to folks then I said why? Its MY hunting ground, and when I want, I get a trophy. So why pour encourage les autres?
Place sucks. Ugly chicks, bad service, overpriced, won't go with white guys anyway. Avoid. Plus they film you and put you on YouTube.
Time to Chant to the Thai Govt: OPEN UP, OPEN UP, OPEN UP.
I need a Thermae / Mixx night, sob sob sob. For me, a one hour flight.
Maybe useless now. But I found the girl in youtube.
The tall girl in dark between the minute marks 3:08 and 3:15.
Has a tattoo on her upper arm. Her watch is shiny in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMRfRf531k&list=UUfo2YyOxA3DnwPDbhwBHo7w&index=30Whenever I see a girl in gogo or massage shop giving the expression she was giving, I avoid them straight away. Sometimes they're the pretty ones of the lot, but I know that expression is like a spoiler of lack of service to come. Not every girl can be hooker, and that's a fact. Not every girl likes it, and most of the times it shows on their faces. But in your case, she wasn't like this when you met her, so you just got unlucky in thermae.
I go to thermae once or twice a month, or used to go. Only when I am not horny, not looking for a great service, and in fine with wasting 2500 or 3000 baht. Service in thermae is hit and miss for non-asians. I don't really like the vibe of it, just a meat market.
Also, you're a nice guy for paying her full amount. Most will criticize you for that, but it's your money and you can do what you want as long it makes you happy. I have paid full amount in past even when she backtracked on some of services (like DFK or BBBJ), and also have cut the amount in half for the same. So it mostly depends on my mood and also girl.
Bam Boom Bam
05-23-20, 08:09
I remember your original review a couple of months ago as it caused quite a stir. IIRC you're a newbie to Thailand and you went to Thermae on your first night. Unless you are Japanese / Korean, Thermae likely wasn't your best choice to start your Thai adventures if you had high expectations for service. It's a convenient place to pick up girls for a competitive price for looks quality. It has no barfine and no lady drinks need to be ordered. It's not a place where service is the number 1 criteria for the girls although that is YMMV.
How did your subsequent Thailand experiences go? Where else did you get girls?
Guido, not sure how experienced you are about Thermae but that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.Well, I first went to Soi 4 to grab a freelancer. I talked to 3 or 4 of them. But none spoke English. The all pulled out their cellphones to use the translator. I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers. Then they started questioning me. It was taking forever with the translator. So I said screw it. Then I remembered people talking about Thermae. So I went there to have a look. It wasn't really my intention to grab a girl there. But it was much easier although the girl spoke very little English. And look how that turned out.
She was the only girl in Bangkok. I avoided Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether. After Bangkok, I went to Pattaya for a week. I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.
With one of the girls, I specifically asked her if she had menstruation. Of course, she did not understand. So we had to use the translator again. Her answer was no. Did she actually understand the question? And was the translation correct? I do not know. Half an hour later, we are having sex in the hotel. After a few thrusts, I can tell something is not right. It feels like my dick is drowning in a pool of grease. There is way too much lubrication. It can only mean one thing, blood. I know because it has happened once before elsewhere.
I stop and pull out and the condom is covered in blood like a knife after a stabbing. And there is blood on the bedsheets as well. I ask the girl again if she has menstruation. She insists no. Was she lying? I do not know. It didn't look like she was lying. If it was vaginal tear, then it must have been from a wild sex session the night before because it sure was not from me. Instead of being at work, she should have been resting at home to heal the wounds and not bring that bloodbath crap to my hotel room.
I don't get why I have to fight for something I'm paying for. These girls over-promise and under-deliver. And they don't care as long as it doesn't hurt them. And it's no use trying to talk sense into them. The concept of customer service does not seem to exist in their realm of mind. And they also want you to buy them food, which I did. And this is how they repay the kindness. I'm referring to the Thai hookers. The regular Thai folks, in my opinion, are genuinely good people. It's the Thai hookers that are the problem.
Banana Boi
05-23-20, 08:40
I have paid full amount in past even when she backtracked on some of services (like DFK or BBBJ), and also have cut the amount in half for the same. You try avoiding this stuff if you live in Thailand and that is a bar you go to often. If you "ripped off" a girl at Thermae or a gogo bar you regularly go to by not paying her what you agreed to, one day it may come back to haunt you. You may see a super hot girl and she turns out to be a "sister" to the girl you paid half to. Good luck going with the hot girl if there are any other potential customers around. In gogo bars, that girl you paid half to will tell every future girl you want to barfine and every other girl she knows in the gogo bar that you are a Cheap Charlie. You won't know what she said unless you speak Thai. I've heard it happen.
You try avoiding this stuff if you live in Thailand and that is a bar you go to often. If you "ripped off" a girl at Thermae or a gogo bar you regularly go to by not paying her what you agreed to, one day it may come back to haunt you. You may see a super hot girl and she turns out to be a "sister" to the girl you paid half to. Good luck going with the hot girl if there are any other potential customers around. In gogo bars, that girl you paid half to will tell every future girl you want to barfine and every other girl she knows in the gogo bar that you are a Cheap Charlie. You won't know what she said unless you speak Thai. I've heard it happen.That's actually interesting and possible. But why would a gogo girl will tell other girls or mamsan that I paid her half because she changed the deal in room. Actually this might help me more, because other girls who think they can pull this off with me, will stay away. What you suggested, I can see that happening in other cities where working girls are less and hard to find. Thailand is full of them.
And as far as I remember, it has never happened with gogo girls where I have to pay less than agreed upon. This has only happened with girls from thermae, beer gardens, and dating sites. Interestingly, some of these girls who I "ripped off" LOL, later message me on Line and say "sorry for bad service, next time I make you more happy. Hope see you soon" LOL.
Banana Boi
05-23-20, 09:25
That's actually interesting and possible. But why would a gogo girl will tell other girls or mamsan that I paid her half because she changed the deal in room. Obviously she will leave out the second part of the story. The version of what happened will be the girl's version that she did everything and you paid half. You'll never get to say your version.
About 2 years ago, there was a girl at Palace who called me cheap because I wouldn't buy her a drink. She didn't know I spoke Thai so I started swearing at her in Thai and told her she was ugly. Then the girl went around telling girls bad things about me. My regular girls come over to tell me what she's doing. We have a good laugh. Then the girl comes to me when she sees I am spending 1000's in drinks. My girls tell her no chance for her forever and the girl got even angrier. Turns out even my girls don't like her.
My biggest laugh though was the night she figured out I hung out with Monkeypaw. The shock on her face was priceless.
Obviously she will leave out the second part of the story. The version of what happened will be the girl's version that she did everything and you paid half. You'll never get to say your version.
Haha that makes sense and yes I can see that happening. Tho I doubt it if I ever really care about it if few girls (or all girls of some bar) try to ignore me, hypothetically, Bangkok or Pattaya are full of clubs, gogos and discos. And I rarely get tempted to fuck one specific girl, and it's almost impossible to not find a doable girl on any given night. Unless I am on a shoestring budget or have extreme fetishes.
But it's all hypothetical so far for me, discos and gogos have been pretty great for me. Maybe because it's a regular place for girl, and they don't want to do a bad job intentionally and create a bad image of herself, after all monger do discuss the girls they have met in clubs. In case of dating sites like Thaifriendly or thermae, she has much less on stake. What I am going to do after a bad service from TF girl, review her on her TF profile LOL?
Extending the hit-and-miss service point from thermae girls, because I am just done fucking a girl and she just left. It's the first time we met and after some massage, she asked for BJ. I said yes. She asked "with condom? I said "what! And next thing, her toungue was licking my bare dick. And she sucked it for good 5 minutes, and tried some DT. Session was normal, so no report about it. But after we were done, I asked her why did she ask to suck with condom. She said, she like it that way. I wondered if anyone agrees to it, and guess what, she said most of Asians are okay with CBJ. Not surprised but that's why girls from Thermae will most probably try to give CBJ, because they're used to get away it with their most clients. Even when I go to thermae, it's not easy to find girl who will go with me and then who is ready for BBBJ.
About 2 years ago, there was a girl at Palace who called me cheap because I wouldn't buy her a drink. She didn't know I spoke Thai so I started swearing at her in Thai and told her she was ugly. Then the girl went around telling girls bad things about me. My regular girls come over to tell me what she's doing. We have a good laugh. Then the girl comes to me when she sees I am spending 1000's in drinks. My girls tell her no chance for her forever and the girl got even angrier. Turns out even my girls don't like her.
My biggest laugh though was the night she figured out I hung out with Monkeypaw. The shock on her face was priceless.Being called cheapo among other things does not bother me in the least. I have been called worse LOL. For a casual monger who does not live there and not a regular at a bar does not bother me what they perceive me as. I am not standing for election as the most popular person LOL. It is strictly business. I am the one with the money to spend and I will decide whom to spend on. My spending attitude only changes if the chosen girl gives me good service. Then I do not mind giving more money, gifts, taking for dinner etc. Talk is cheap. A bargirl can promise whatever you want to hear in the bar but the proof comes later.
Unfortunately lots of people want to impress girls in the bar showing off. They forget they are there to have a good time and not loose their shirt buying everybody drinks. They forget bars are trying to squeeze your money as much as possible. Being termed big spender is false prestige.
I remember here in USA taking girls on dates to cheap restaurants. Nonetheless irrespective of what they think behind my back did not affect the relationship. Not all girls expect to be wined and dined.
For a common prostitute what is the point in impressing your generosity?
Banana Boi
05-23-20, 19:08
Why would they go to Thermae for any reason other than to lure a guy?What I was trying to say is most girls who stand in Thermae look like robots except for those moments when they think a guy is looking at them or they see a customer THEY want. Then you will see a momentary smile.
I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.
With one of the girls, I specifically asked her if she had menstruation. Of course, she did not understand. So we had to use the translator again. Her answer was no. Did she actually understand the question? And was the translation correct? I do not know. Half an hour later, we are having sex in the hotel. After a few thrusts, I can tell something is not right. It feels like my dick is drowning in a pool of grease. There is way too much lubrication. It can only mean one thing, blood. I know because it has happened once before elsewhere.
I stop and pull out and the condom is covered in blood like a knife after a stabbing. And there is blood on the bedsheets as well. I ask the girl again if she has menstruation. She insists no. Was she lying? I do not know. It didn't look like she was lying. If it was vaginal tear, then it must have been from a wild sex session the night before because it sure was not from me. Instead of being at work, she should have been resting at home to heal the wounds and not bring that bloodbath crap to my hotel room.
I don't get why I have to fight for something I'm paying for. These girls over-promise and under-deliver. And they don't care as long as it doesn't hurt them. And it's no use trying to talk sense into them. The concept of customer service does not seem to exist in their realm of mind. And they also want you to buy them food, which I did. And this is how they repay the kindness. I'm referring to the Thai hookers. The regular Thai folks, in my opinion, are genuinely good people. It's the Thai hookers that are the problem.You cannot expect to have a 100% satisfaction rate when you deal with hookers, especially when you cannot communicate with them. They have their expectations also and the customers can also be very different from one to another, it's not easy to please every kind of men. Even I can communicate with them I still brought back so many sh1 tty girls back to my place in the past, but between these girls I could found some that were good. A first step for you would probably be to skip the girls with little English and focus on the ones that can speak correctly in English as you seem to be asking them a few things before bringing them back with you.
Normally when Thai WG still work while having their menstruation, they would put a kind of sponge in the back of their pussy to retain the blood, one can still occasionally find some blood drops on the sheets or on the tip of the condom but what happened to that girl was odd. She probably wasn't aware of it herself.
Well, I first went to Soi 4 to grab a freelancer. I talked to 3 or 4 of them. But none spoke English. The all pulled out their cellphones to use the translator. I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers. Then they started questioning me. It was taking forever with the translator. So I said screw it. Then I remembered people talking about Thermae. So I went there to have a look. It wasn't really my intention to grab a girl there. But it was much easier although the girl spoke very little English. And look how that turned out.
She was the only girl in Bangkok. I avoided Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether. After Bangkok, I went to Pattaya for a week. I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.
...Why did you avoid Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether? Of all the places you mentioned (Soi 4 and Thermae in Bangkok, anywhere in Pattaya), Nana Plaza probably would have had the most easily agreeable, customer-oriented, English fluent, slim, young Thai girls who understand why they suit up in a bikini or less and clock in on the job every day. Those other places are going to be much more hit and miss, sprinkled with P4P-curious hobbyists, waste-of-time hustlers and, particularly in the case of Pattaya, girls used to dealing with many customers who rush to the 7-11 to scarf up those horrid pre-packaged sandwiches just before their expiration date in order to save 17.50 baht. So they are naturally used to providing less than mediocre service, probably not worth it at any price.
Of course, that was pre Covid-19. Post Covid-19, who knows what kind of options will be available in those places, if any.
Crocodilexp
05-24-20, 02:03
I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers... I don't see why it should be so difficult.
You're making it difficult. Asking too many questions to hookers won't get you far. All you need to know is the price, and maybe if they do specific unusual acts you want (like anal, or finishing 2 times). Even asking about services is of limited value, most things they can promise but deliver minimally or with poor attitude (e. G. A 5-second BBBJ). In the end, they'll give you whatever service they normally provide. For best results, go with the flow with a pleasant but firm attitude, but it's always variable, some girls are duds no matter what you do. Trying too hard to make sure everything lines up correctly is the best way to spoil it.
As for menstruation, no way to avoid. They usually know they have it, and know no customer would like that (apart from maybe 1% with a crazy fetish), but still chose to work. Usually they take precautions like shoving a sponge out there or hoping it won't get too messy, this sometimes works, sometimes fails. Given that they're out working anyway, why would they choose to give up the session just because you remembered to ask the magic question of whether they have menstruation?
Banana Boi
05-24-20, 02:37
Excluding Thai bars which you did not attend, every single girl except maybe a handful I met in Thailand speaks English. Pretty low odds given I've likely spoken to 1000s and 1000s of girls. How in the world did you manage to get 3 Thai girls who needed to use Google translate? Do you have an accent and it's the girls who don't understand you? I've seen that happen before. I've only had to ever use Google translate with one single girl in Thailand and that's because she just turned of age and it was her first ever night working. Even now 5 years later working in various Walking Street gogo bars her English is awful so it's just her inability to learn English.
ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.
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ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.BananaBoi, you're probably right since that is the usual objection to taking go-go girls or the reason someone chooses to go the FL route instead. But I often read here that go-go girls are less service-oriented, less giving, are more difficult to get GFE with (True GFE or not) and so on. Maybe that was part of his reasoning as well.
For example, it has been posted that go-go girls are the least likely to agree to bb or give a BBBJ+CIM compared to other options. They are certainly presumed to give the least accomplished ones. And I think the idea is they are less likely to be agreeable to those things or do a good job of it because they are typically younger, in better shape, don't need to give so much for the money, in a hurry to get back to the bar and so on. But, I have to say none of that has been my experience with go-go girls vs FLs on the street, in Thermae, massage shop girls, whatever.
My experience with go-go girls, more generally from Nana Plaza than Soi Cowboy, has been they are among the best sex providers of all the options. And, frankly, the younger, fitter and cuter they are, the better they have been for me. I am not talking about the very top tier looking girls in a go-go bar (or in any venue, for that matter). I am talking about among the top, say, 25% in the room, preferably the second tier best lookers. If anything, the older and slightly less fit the go-go girl is who approaches me, the bigger bet I would make this one wouldn't agree to anything I need tonight. By contrast, the younger, fitter and cuter they are almost always means they are up for it.
And if that means I pay an additional 1,500 baht for a barfine and a drink or two to get that squared away and agreed upon before we even walk out of the bar, I'm fine with that. I can't tell you how many times I've wasted much more than 1,500 baht on the kind of stuff BamBoomBam had thrown in his lap trying to avoid the barfine and drinks route,if that was his reason. And more than that with those silly Thermae girls.
But it would be interesting to hear what BamBoomBam's reasons were for avoiding the go-go bars in the areas he visited.
Bam Boom Bam
05-24-20, 05:56
You cannot expect to have a 100% satisfaction rate when you deal with hookers, especially when you cannot communicate with them. They have their expectations also and the customers can also be very different from one to another, it's not easy to please every kind of men. Even I can communicate with them I still brought back so many sh1 tty girls back to my place in the past, but between these girls I could found some that were good. A first step for you would probably be to skip the girls with little English and focus on the ones that can speak correctly in English as you seem to be asking them a few things before bringing them back with you.
Normally when Thai WG still work while having their menstruation, they would put a kind of sponge in the back of their pussy to retain the blood, one can still occasionally find some blood drops on the sheets or on the tip of the condom but what happened to that girl was odd. She probably wasn't aware of it herself.I understand they have their expectations as well. But some of these girls are very demanding, acting like they are the paying customer. And that I find very wrong.
Also, you make a very good point about communication. I probably should avoid girls that do not speak English next time, although I do not believe there ever will be a next time. At least not as we know it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate your input.
Bam Boom Bam
05-24-20, 06:56
You're making it difficult. Asking too many questions to hookers won't get you far. All you need to know is the price, and maybe if they do specific unusual acts you want (like anal, or finishing 2 times). Even asking about services is of limited value, most things they can promise but deliver minimally or with poor attitude (e. G. A 5-second BBBJ). In the end, they'll give you whatever service they normally provide. For best results, go with the flow with a pleasant but firm attitude, but it's always variable, some girls are duds no matter what you do. Trying too hard to make sure everything lines up correctly is the best way to spoil it.
As for menstruation, no way to avoid. They usually know they have it, and know no customer would like that (apart from maybe 1% with a crazy fetish), but still chose to work. Usually they take precautions like shoving a sponge out there or hoping it won't get too messy, this sometimes works, sometimes fails. Given that they're out working anyway, why would they choose to give up the session just because you remembered to ask the magic question of whether they have menstruation?Yes, those were the two or three questions that I asked. So I did not ask too many questions.
I am not saying that they have to give up the session just because I asked the magic question. But I am saying that they should let me know if I ask and allow me to decide because I do not want to end up with a bloody condom and bloody bed-sheets, which is a major turn-off. Just like you said, they already know that customers do not like menstruation.
If you rent a car and the engine blows after five minutes when you were very gentle with the gas pedal, is it your fault?
Bam Boom Bam
05-24-20, 07:38
Why did you avoid Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether? Of all the places you mentioned (Soi 4 and Thermae in Bangkok, anywhere in Pattaya), Nana Plaza probably would have had the most easily agreeable, customer-oriented, English fluent, slim, young Thai girls who understand why they suit up in a bikini or less and clock in on the job every day. Those other places are going to be much more hit and miss, sprinkled with P4P-curious hobbyists, waste-of-time hustlers and, particularly in the case of Pattaya, girls used to dealing with many customers who rush to the 7-11 to scarf up those horrid pre-packaged sandwiches just before their expiration date in order to save 17.50 baht. So they are naturally used to providing less than mediocre service, probably not worth it at any price.
Of course, that was pre Covid-19. Post Covid-19, who knows what kind of options will be available in those places, if any.I do not have a single absolute reason for avoiding Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. I did hear they are quite pushy once you are inside. Contrary to what many here believe, both Pattaya girls involved barfines and lady's drinks. I will provide more details if I get around to it. While at Soi 4, I did do a walk around on all floors at Nana Plaza. They would always slide the curtains for me to sample the action inside. Many had zero customers and some had maybe only two or three customers. So I did not feel comfortable going inside. I guess it didn't help that it was on a weekday. But had I been privy to the intel you provide regarding Nana, I probably would have dared to venture inside one or two of the establishments at the Plaza.
I do not believe there ever will be a Post-Covid-19 phase. I believe the virus is here to stay for the long term. With the safety measures in place, it may be contained but most likely not eradicated considering the high number of asymptomatic cases. I believe the implementation of the social distancing rules will not make it viable for Nana Plaza to re-open in the near future. But that is just my opinion.
Regarding the 7-11 sandwiches, I re-read the Thermae report. I mis-wrote. They were not 7-11 sandwiches. They were Subway sandwiches. The total bill was around 400 Baht for two persons. I do not think that is cheap as in 17.50 Baht. Even though they are hookers, I treat them as my guests. So I would never buy them 7-11 sandwiches.
Danny Duck
05-24-20, 07:43
Well, I first went to Soi 4 to grab a freelancer. I talked to 3 or 4 of them. But none spoke English. The all pulled out their cellphones to use the translator. I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers. Then they started questioning me. It was taking forever with the translator. So I said screw it. Then I remembered people talking about Thermae. So I went there to have a look. It wasn't really my intention to grab a girl there. But it was much easier although the girl spoke very little English. And look how that turned out.
She was the only girl in Bangkok. I avoided Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether. After Bangkok, I went to Pattaya for a week. I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.
With one of the girls, I specifically asked her if she had menstruation. Of course, she did not understand. So we had to use the translator again. Her answer was no. Did she actually understand the question? And was the translation correct? I do not know. Half an hour later, we are having sex in the hotel. After a few thrusts, I can tell something is not right. It feels like my dick is drowning in a pool of grease. There is way too much lubrication. It can only mean one thing, blood. I know because it has happened once before elsewhere.Newsflash.
1. Number 1.
2. C number 1.
I'm not talking about the Free immigration girls, bank tellers, office managers, etc that so many here get.
The kind that will make you breakfast.
The kind that don't care you are 70 and they are 30. It's just a number.
Bam Boom Bam
05-24-20, 08:37
Excluding Thai bars which you did not attend, every single girl except maybe a handful I met in Thailand speaks English. Pretty low odds given I've likely spoken to 1000s and 1000s of girls. How in the world did you manage to get 3 Thai girls who needed to use Google translate? Do you have an accent and it's the girls who don't understand you? I've seen that happen before. I've only had to ever use Google translate with one single girl in Thailand and that's because she just turned of age and it was her first ever night working. Even now 5 years later working in various Walking Street gogo bars her English is awful so it's just her inability to learn English.
ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.The other Pattaya girl spoke decent English. She worked at a gogo bar in LK Metro and her barfine was 1000 Baht. So it was 2 out 3 that needed Google translate. The menstruation Pattaya girl also involved a barfine at a beer bar also in LK Metro.
I do not have an accent, not a funny one, if that's what you mean. And there were plenty of those in the LK Metro area.
Somehow, I got the impression it's more freelancer oriented in Bangkok and more barfine oriented in Pattaya. But maybe I am mistaken.
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