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Chinatown Guy
10-31-21, 21:33
I found his post helpful in convincing me to stick to "the street girls lurking in the dark corners on Sukhumvit".I will no doubt try the on-line services the next time I get to Bangkok. In the present circumstances, I can see why they moved to the Internet, but I have to say, for decades, I have always loved the many strolls up and down Sukhumvit Road, looking for my next "diamond in the rough. " True, the ladies shown on those sites, consistently all seem to be beautiful but I have always liked the (so called) "realness", of approaching a lady on the street to get it on with her. It's the beautiful illusion of being "real" that I have enjoyed. I found the one 4 one site for Hong Kong to be very artificial and less appealing so I'm a bit dubious.
Just have your GF work at any of the G clubs or BJ bars in Pattaya. Public BJ and sex.
Be warned the word Gentleman's Club is now watered down in Pattaya as many normal bars now call themselves a Gentleman's Club even though they have no pool, etc.Yeah, I'm now wondering if it would be easier to jut visit a BJ bar where the action is public. Lolit at 's and Kaasalong are private, but perhaps there are others?
NicFrenchy
11-01-21, 03:43
Yeah, I'm now wondering if it would be easier to jut visit a BJ bar where the action is public. Lolit at 's and Kaasalong are private, but perhaps there are others?I'm not sure if the SOL (Star of Light) is still open but the action there is right in the open. You would walk in that place and see guys getting blown of having sex on the sofas in the place. No curtains, no frills, all in the open. You could be getting blown on a sofa and a dude would come sit right next to you, getting his pole polished. Beer in hand, big grin on the face, so was the SOL in Patpong.
Crocodilexp
11-01-21, 22:06
I'm not sure if the SOL (Star of Light) is still open but the action there is right in the open. You would walk in that place and see guys getting blown of having sex on the sofas in the place. No curtains, no frills, all in the open. You could be getting blown on a sofa and a dude would come sit right next to you, getting his pole polished. Beer in hand, big grin on the face, so was the SOL in Patpong.Not open at the moment, possibly closed for good.
At one point in 2020, SOL opened up in a new location about 50 m away from the old one, but that didn't last long. At that time, they insisted on doing the BJ in a separate area behind a heavy curtain. Not nearly as fun as doing it out in the open.
Pinaypounder
11-01-21, 22:12
I have a desire to watch my Thai girlfriend suck off another guy. If she's not up for it, then a WG will do! Any advice on how to make this a reality? Are there swinger clubs in BKK that could match me up with the right person (s)?I watched an old GF do this. Stored in the spank bank forever. I highly recommend it and would help you with this if and when I am there!
PP.
November 1 should be an exciting day for people in BKK. Curfew to end and alcohol can now be served legally in accredited restaurants.I was in BKK for a week until yesterday, when I came to Pattaya. Lots of bars open around Sukhumvit, on Soi 4 and 7 and more, and good vibes. But Nana Plaza still closed obviously. Does the Nov 1st alcohol ban lift mean that Nana Plaza is back open now? Or will this happen only in Dec?
Explorer8939
11-02-21, 15:45
We have been saying one would be taking an additional risk by ordering alcohol in the bars and restaurants willing to cheat and give it to you in a cup during the ban. But the reports on this raid suggest the reason the customers were rounded up and charged with violating the Emergency Decree and Communicable Diseases Act is because they were dancing in a confined space.
There were receipts to prove alcohol was being sold so the person selling the booze was arrested for that. But I don't know that busting customers for what might or might not be alcohol in a cup and whether or not that cup belongs to you or the person sitting next to you at the table is the path of least resistance for the cops to take. And that's assuming there would be any liquid left in any cup by the time the cops got to my table
Had I been there I probably would have had club soda in my glass. But I could not deny I was in a gathering of 61 people in an enclosed upstairs bar.
I read that a violation of that Decree and Act is punishable by 2 years in prison and/or a 40,000THB fine.
I wonder how many fines were settled asap at the bar "owners'" station that night.I was arrested at a bar in Pattaya earlier this year. I, and the ladies were hauled down to the station on Soi 9. However, we were required to enter the station through a side entrance on the third floor, which required us to climb over a wall. That was the tipoff that everything would be resolved with money.
And it was. The bar paid the police, and everyone went home. But the bar stayed closed.
I was in BKK for a week until yesterday, when I came to Pattaya. Lots of bars open around Sukhumvit, on Soi 4 and 7 and more, and good vibes. But Nana Plaza still closed obviously. Does the Nov 1st alcohol ban lift mean that Nana Plaza is back open now? Or will this happen only in Dec?As of tonight, Tuesday November 2nd, no bars inside Nana Plaza were open, only some of the beer bars out on Soi 4 were open. And they were all pretty much closed by 11pm or soon after. Some earlier than that.
Explorer8939
11-02-21, 20:15
As of tonight, Tuesday November 2nd, no bars inside Nana Plaza were open, only some of the beer bars out on Soi 4 were open. And they were all pretty much closed by 11pm tonight. Some earlier than that.I would guess that open bars are operating under a restaurant license, and serve food.
I would guess that open bars are operating under a restaurant license, and serve food.You're right. They all have display stands with food menus out front. I wouldn't be surprised if some go-go bars undergoing renovation will change their signage to something like "Butterflies Food, Drink and Go-Go Bar" to better prepare for the future.
Not really joking about that. I have seen it happening with beer bars over the past year.
So I've been in the UK for about five days.
Plotting my escape. Never really got to see any of Bangkok when I was in Thailand in July. Flights are cheap enough. I've got an exit stamp from The Gambia on the 29th of November, so under the '21 days in a green list country rule' the earliest I can fly is the 19th of this month. Need to be back in the UK the 3rd of December.
Is it worth it? Hmmm.
Steve 9696
11-03-21, 13:33
So I've been in the UK for about five days.
Plotting my escape. Never really got to see any of Bangkok when I was in Thailand in July. Flights are cheap enough. I've got an exit stamp from The Gambia on the 29th of November, so under the '21 days in a green list country rule' the earliest I can fly is the 19th of this month. Need to be back in the UK the 3rd of December.
Is it worth it? Hmmm.Not the Thai bar scene of course but there are amazing girls at Diva and Olina (Thai) right there in London at 150-200 £ an hour. One of my fave locales because you go right to her flat and fuck in her bed. Check out London thread or HMU on message for tips and recommendations.
Member #4753
11-04-21, 02:24
You're right. They all have display stands with food menus out front. I wouldn't be surprised if some go-go bars undergoing renovation will change their signage to something like "Butterflies Food, Drink and Go-Go Bar" to better prepare for the future.
Not really joking about that. I have seen it happening with beer bars over the past year.I noticed that a few bars on lower sukhumwit were open this week with not even a pretence that they served foot. Perhaps a bowl of potatoe chips on the bar counts.
Maybe they will just put up a "grab food" sign on the bar as a means to order food with your beer.
Member #4753
11-04-21, 04:37
I Posted the following in another section. I live in Bangkok, so it is pertaining mostly to BKK. Please note this is just my opinion, no one knows what will exactly happen.
For anyone else here it would be good to hear their views too.
As I did state below, unless you are in Thailand or have been here you really won't comprehend how devastated the tourist areas are. Thailand normally gets 40 million visitors a year. This year they have had maybe 100,000. So you can imagine how businessed that rely solely on international visitors have shut.
-repost from another section-.
There is no sign of life yet for the big soapies or gogos. I don't see them opening until early 2022.
I think everyone is waiting to see what happens in November as far as how many tourists come in. If there is no big spike in cases they will look to open up bars and entertainment places at a later stage.
You can see a little more activity from normal businesses in the tourist areas in anticipation of arrivals. However most business have been shut for 1 1/2 years and many completely gone. The ones that remain are hanging on by a thread so they are very cautious about spending money until they can see the demand arriving. Every time they open and then shut it costs money. Think burning cash 18 months. No cash is left. The first priority is to get normal activity going. Enterntainment and bars will be the last to open.
Having said all of this. There are many oilies open, albiet with a skeleton staff and are quite tragic at the moment. If tourist numbers start to increase these places will probably be the first to get going and to start building staff.
There are also a few bars that have called themselves restaurants in order to get going. These places are small and nothing like before, not worth coming for.
Unless you are here you would not comprehend the devastaion covid has brought to the tourist areas inlcuding all of lower Sukhumwit, Patpong and Khao san. The entertainment streets are completely shut, it is eerie to walk down them at night. Completely black. They have been like this for 6 months.
Even normal things are eerily quiet. You can get a seat on the BTS in rush hour. There are no tourists here at all.
Thailand is in a holding pattern. I would not jump on a plane right now and expect everything to jump back to normal in weeks. It is going to be a slow build and most people are in a wait and see mode. I think you would have to be very optimistic in wishing to see bars / gogos and soapies open in December, I would think this is maybe a 10% chances. Some time early next year would be a more realistic time scale.
Ranvir 226
11-04-21, 06:41
I Posted the following in another section. I live in Bangkok, so it is pertaining mostly to BKK. Please note this is just my opinion, no one knows what will exactly happen.
e eerily quiet. You can get a seat on the BTS in rush hour. There are no tourists here at all.
Thailand is in a holding pattern. I would not jump on a plane right now and expect everything to jump back to normal in weeks. It is going to be a slow build and most people are in a wait and see mode. I think you would have to be very optimistic in wishing to see bars / gogos and soapies open in December, I would think this is maybe a 10% chances. Some time early next year would be a more realistic time scale.Dear bro, thanks, keep updating, as and when you give nod, I would book my flight and hotel, thanks once again.
I do not live in BKK but on a recent trip ,6 days, I would pretty much agree with this report. Especially with respect to the services. If there is a keeper at an open shop, she is probably only available by appointment. I had 4 sessions, 2 appointment 2 just going with my gut feeling at the moment. All not up to old standards. Even Doki Doki. They say the cure for high prices is high prices, people see money can be made so more is produced bring supplies up and prices down. But I find it hard to see poor service being the cure for poor service.
Guess the WW group is banned. Have the opened a new one?
My buddy on the ground in BKK as of Thursday November 4th.
There is more signs of life. There is a little bar above Thermae (the old restaurant to the left of the money exchange). I sat there for about an hour (8-9 pm) just now, sipping on Singha for 100 baht. Then started to feel nervous because I wasn't sure if they had the right papers to be serving alcohol or not. Next time I will just get a Coke and bring my own booze. While I was there, I did see about 5 groups of what looked like just arrived Asian tourists try to go down into Thermae, which was closed and has been for months. Apparently, they didn't get the memo and looked as if they were baffled. I've been in BKK now for a 40 days. My other reports on the street scene about how scary the girls and dismal the scenes were has changed for the better tonight. From Soi 11 to about the McDonald's at Robinsons, I counted about at least 80 or more girls (and LBs) out tonight. There is much more talent than what was out there before. Lifting of curfew, alcohol until 9, and November 1 probably has much to do with the change in numbers. A handful, I might take a chance with in the future. But those masks make it too damn hard to tell. Venture towards 7, after you pass 11, and it gets a bit more scary. I did not want to go look at Soi Nana. 1500 seems to be the asking price for most of the girls on the street, some will take 1000. Now at least there is something else to play with besides FiwFans which is about 1500 as well. So things are looking up. Not sure how much longer the 1500 price will last.
Crocodilexp
11-04-21, 21:07
1500 seems to be the asking price for most of the girls on the street, some will take 1000... Not sure how much longer the 1500 price will last. Good report.
As of March 2021, all of the streetwalkers on Sukhumvit were taking a 1000 without much difficulty, with a few even proposing 500 in desperation. Of course, if you ask them the price rather than offer 1000 first, most will open with a higher one. Admittedly, that's a few months ago, but I doubt the prices would have gone up since then.
Decent prices will last as long as there are no substantial numbers of punters taking whatever price the girls ask.
ThaiGoodTimes
11-05-21, 00:38
I Posted the following in another section. I live in Bangkok, so it is pertaining mostly to BKK. Please note this is just my opinion, no one knows what will exactly happen.
For anyone else here it would be good to hear their views too.
As I did state below, unless you are in Thailand or have been here you really won't comprehend how devastated the tourist areas are. Thailand normally gets 40 million visitors a year. This year they have had maybe 100,000. So you can imagine how businessed that rely solely on international visitors have shut.
-repost from another section-.
There is no sign of life yet for the big soapies or gogos. I don't see them opening until early 2022.
I think everyone is waiting to see what happens in November as far as how many tourists come in. If there is no big spike in cases they will look to open up bars and entertainment places at a later stage.
You can see a little more activity from normal businesses in the tourist areas in anticipation of arrivals. However most business have been shut for 1 1/2 years and many completely gone. The ones that remain are hanging on by a thread so they are very cautious about spending money until they can see the demand arriving. Every time they open and then shut it costs money. Think burning cash 18 months. No cash is left. The first priority is to get normal activity going. Enterntainment and bars will be the last to open..Bangkok and other areas around it like Pattaya may be in a holding pattern.
But Phuket is not.
Many many many girls of great quality and good prices around.
For now, come to Thailand and go to Phuket.
Go to Bangkok later.
My buddy on the ground in BKK as of Thursday November 4th.
There is more signs of life. There is a little bar above Thermae (the old restaurant to the left of the money exchange). I sat there for about an hour (8-9 pm) just now, sipping on Singha for 100 baht. Then started to feel nervous because I wasn't sure if they had the right papers to be serving alcohol or not. Next time I will just get a Coke and bring my own booze. While I was there, I did see about 5 groups of what looked like just arrived Asian tourists try to go down into Thermae, which was closed and has been for months. Apparently, they didn't get the memo and looked as if they were baffled. I've been in BKK now for a 40 days. My other reports on the street scene about how scary the girls and dismal the scenes were has changed for the better tonight. From Soi 11 to about the McDonald's at Robinsons, I counted about at least 80 or more girls (and LBs) out tonight. There is much more talent than what was out there before. Lifting of curfew, alcohol until 9, and November 1 probably has much to do with the change in numbers. A handful, I might take a chance with in the future. But those masks make it too damn hard to tell. Venture towards 7, after you pass 11, and it gets a bit more scary. I did not want to go look at Soi Nana. 1500 seems to be the asking price for most of the girls on the street, some will take 1000. Now at least there is something else to play with besides FiwFans which is about 1500 as well. So things are looking up. Not sure how much longer the 1500 price will last."Venture towards 7, after you pass 11, and it gets a bit more scary. I did not want to go look at Soi Nana."
So he never walked down Soi 7, just scanned the options on Sukhumvit Road "towards" Soi 7 and did not walk down Soi Nana/Soi 4 either to see what was going on? After being here 40 days and that was last night. Seriously?
I mean, other than missing the 2-3 most happening, crowded, open and accessible scenes on lower Sukhumvit with the most eager, live and in-person doable party girls available, that was a fairly accurate report.
It's been going on for weeks and many of the better looking doable girls he might have seen in front of or near the closed Thermae or on Soi 11 usually stop by there nightly as well.
"Venture towards 7, after you pass 11, and it gets a bit more scary. I did not want to go look at Soi Nana."
So he never walked down Soi 7, just scanned the options on Sukhumvit Road "towards" Soi 7 and did not walk down Soi Nana/Soi 4 either to see what was going on? After being here 40 days and that was last night. Seriously?.As we get older, it's understandable that for most, if not all, our bodies and physical attributes decline a bit. But the mind, for most, is supposed to stay strong or perhaps even more acute. Perhaps less time arguing with other about Politics? And more time posting in Bangkok? Or maybe it's a memory or disconnect thing.
10/2/2011.
From a friend who is real and on the ground, and not somewhere in his mom's basement.
Bored of Pattaya, and after banging almost all the decent looking young girls that were available, I took my talents to Bangkok for a month...10/11/2021.
My friend says even lost strays need a bone tossed now and then. They still hungry.
Because there seems to be some confused lost souls, I will be gracious enough to do another report on the Bangkok scene. Been here about 3 weeks, and not much has changed with the entertainment venues or street scene....10/24/2021.
Sound advice from my buddy, the Thailand sexpert himself...11/4/2021.
My buddy on the ground in BKK as of Thursday November 4th.
There is more signs of life...
Today I was told by one of my go-go girl favorites that some Nana Plaza go-go bars will re-open on November 16.
I have not heard anything about Soi Cowboy go-go bars or Patpong go-go bars specifically but I assume if they can re-open in Nana Plaza they can re-open anywhere in the city.
French Insider
11-05-21, 17:51
I am coming with my wife (F34 / M36) to Thailand in 2 weeks. She is bi-sexual and we like to do threesome (MFF) with other true bi-sexual girls (not LB / TS). I know I'm a lucky guy.
What's the best way to find bi-sexual girls?
I thought about some websites: swingersinbangkok (40 $/ month), Tinder, ThaiFriendly, sidelines girls? Do you know if they are worth the paying subscription? Have they truly girls registered on it?
If you were in my shoes, how would you do it?
Member #4753
11-06-21, 04:20
I am coming with my wife (F34 / M36) to Thailand in 2 weeks. She is bi-sexual and we like to do threesome (MFF) with other true bi-sexual girls (not LB / TS). I know I'm a lucky guy.
What's the best way to find bi-sexual girls?
I thought about some websites: swingersinbangkok (40 $/ month), Tinder, ThaiFriendly, sidelines girls? Do you know if they are worth the paying subscription? Have they truly girls registered on it?
If you were in my shoes, how would you do it?In my experience probably half of working girls in Bangkok will do a threesome and not even blink. So just go to any massage place with happy ending or any other place you can find working girls at the moment and just ask which girls will do it.
You would need to be specific in exactly what they will do. Some girls will do anything, some will only allow her pussy to be licked but not lick your girls pussy, some girls will only lick your girls pussy but not allow her pussy to be licked etc. Hence be very specific what you want.
In my experience with threesomes it is best to just go into the situation with the expectation to just have fun. Sometimes it is great, other times it just doesn't work out. Hence, start with low expectations and anything above that is a bonus.
It is always best to ask your girl what she expects you to do to other girl. Some girlfriends just want you to watch and not fuck the other girl, some girls will let you do anything. If you have a real lasting relationship with a special girl it is always best to set the rules if you want your relationship to last.
I am coming with my wife (F34 / M36) to Thailand in 2 weeks. She is bi-sexual and we like to do threesome (MFF) with other true bi-sexual girls (not LB / TS). I know I'm a lucky guy.
What's the best way to find bi-sexual girls?
I thought about some websites: swingersinbangkok (40 $/ month), Tinder, ThaiFriendly, sidelines girls? Do you know if they are worth the paying subscription? Have they truly girls registered on it?
If you were in my shoes, how would you do it?Analisa offers a Couples Tantra Massage with a full service option: https://www.analisamassage.com/services.
Smooci has a lesbian option in their escort filter: https://smooci.com.
Contact massage shops like Tulip and Doki Doki and ask if they offer couples massages.
SL.
As we get older, it's understandable that for most, if not all, our bodies and physical attributes decline a bit. But the mind, for most, is supposed to stay strong or perhaps even more acute. Perhaps less time arguing with other about Politics? And more time posting in Bangkok? Or maybe it's a memory or disconnect thing.
10/2/2011.
10/11/2021.
10/24/2021.
11/4/2021.So your friend missed it. It happens.
If he is still just wandering around Sukhumvit Road between Thermae and "towards" Soi 7 looking for something to do, tell him to walk "down" Soi 7 a short distance some evening and make a left turn into the collection of a dozen or so bars often packed with girls, many Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong go-go girls as well as Thermae girls (from normal times) looking for customers and ready to party. Been that way for weeks if not months.
Same with Soi Nana/Soi 4, the area he was afraid to look at. Hillary 2 has been hosting those same kind of above girls for weeks and over the past couple of weeks, certainly during the time he gave you that last report and was afraid to venture there, other beer bars on both sides of the soi and all the way down to the smaller and newly renovated bars at the Soi 6 junction were open for fun, food, pool, live music, displaced go-go girls, Thermae girls and other fteelancers.
As I mentioned previously, most of the better looking girls (and the less attractive ones) he might have observed hanging out in front of or near Thermae on Sukhumvit have been showing up at the places I mentioned in this post eventually because that is where the crowds, customers and parties have been. In case he was lost, confused and wondering where they all went.
But not dancing. Yet. They don't want to get rounded up and arrested like those 61 people at the Soi Cowboy/Soi 23 venue.
Bear in mind, many of the better looking girls in these places are marking time for when their go-go bars re-open. Therefore, IF those go-go bars re-open on November 16 as I said one of them told me recently, they will return to those bars, where the barfines and their "getting" prices will likely be higher than they have been at the bars I mentioned here. And who knows what quality of girls will be left behind.
Returning soon to Bangkok (have missed it greatly) and have read back through 2 pages of this forum from which there is a little doom and gloom, advice to head to Phuket instead, until the last optimistic report from senior member EihTooms whose advice suggests things are headed back to normal. I'm normally a Soi4/ Nana guy (love Hilary) but will usually check out Therme and Cowboy. Will be on business and likely to only have 3/4 nights in December or early Jan. Can I ask therefore for an update from those on the ground there in this great City as to (1) travel in and out of Thailand at present (I have a European / Schengen passport) (2) restrictions / tests (3) whether the go go bars and other clubs have in fact re-opened in the city (eg Therme). (4) numbers of girls (back to normal / reduced etc). Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks.
So your friend missed it. It happens.
If he is still just wandering around Sukhumvit Road between Thermae and "towards" Soi 7 looking for something to do, tell him to walk "down" Soi 7 a short distance some evening and make a left turn into the collection of a dozen or so bars often packed with girls, many Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong go-go girls as well as Thermae girls (from normal times) looking for customers and ready to party. Been that way for weeks if not months...Are you okay? Did you not RTFF? ? I even linked the reports and all of those beer bars / restaurants / coffee shops were mentioned. Look at the quotes below. He didn't like what he saw, plus they are just out for making drinks. He and you just must have different set of eyes for talent. Or maybe there is some comprehension issues. I trust him. I have yet to see ONE "proven" recent report by anyone on this forum about taking an ex "hot" Gogo bar or "hot" Thermae girl from these beer bars that are open. Everybody knows it doesn't take much to work Nana or Thermae. The hotter ones all went online to the Thai websites like he said. He sent me the pics on the sites and their matching pics from the Gogo bars Facebooks. He's getting them now for 1300-1500 outcall. Bad ass.
"Beer Garden is open but pretty dismal, it was a walk in, walk out type of deal. Saw some past their prime ladies playing pool, while being eye fucked by some guys, sipping drinks, who looked as if they were just waiting to die. It was a sad sight indeed. There are a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi, just to the left as you make your way in. But once again, the talent level was simply yuck. Not a very happening place to be. It's the same feeling you get the you walk into a GoGo bar, and there are a bunch of fuglies trying to dance on stage, the mamasan comes and says "you can choose," and you just want to leave, but too embarrassed for them (not you). Yeah, it's like that."
"If you are bored and need to sit, drink covertly, and have paid company pretending to care about what you have to say, then there are plenty of options. There are some more previously mentioned joints opened on Soi 11, Soi Biergarten."
"I'm not an alcoholic, I don't need to drink, unless there is entertainment. I didn't find anything entertaining worth my time. It's like those girlie bars on But Vien street. But imagine if there was no street crowd to gaze at. You walk in, and the vultures attack and you get nothing back like those expat bars on Pasteur in HCM. Waste of time, unless require a lady as a drinking buddy to tell your sorrows to. None of the girls, I would consider taking home."
HorseTrader
11-06-21, 16:53
Returning soon to Bangkok (have missed it greatly) and have read back through 2 pages of this forum from which there is a little doom and gloom, advice to head to Phuket instead, until the last optimistic report from senior member EihTooms whose advice suggests things are headed back to normal.Some answers are scattered throughout the last month or two of posts in the various Thailand sections. Suggest you spend an hour reading them. You will get a flavor for what's happening, but more important is you will see that what's happening today may be very different from what will be happening when you arrive in late December or early January. The changes are maddening.
Also suggest looking at The Thaiger (daily YouTube updates) and Bangkok Post and others. Those sources include Thai news that targets tourists.
ILikeCandy69
11-06-21, 17:01
Returning soon to Bangkok (have missed it greatly) and have read back through 2 pages of this forum from which there is a little doom and gloom, advice to head to Phuket instead, until the last optimistic report from senior member EihTooms whose advice suggests things are headed back to normal.
Will be on business and likely to only have 3/4 nights in December or early Jan. Can I ask therefore for an update from those on the ground there in this great City as to (1) travel in and out of Thailand at present (I have a European / Schengen passport) (2) restrictions / tests (3) whether the go go bars and other clubs have in fact re-opened in the city (eg Therme). (4) numbers of girls (back to normal / reduced etc).
Any advice greatly appreciated..#1 & 2.
EU can travel to TH. You have to be vaccinated. You have to take the test. You have to stay in a government approved hotel for a night.
https://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/thailand-travel-restrictions
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/thailand-travel-covid-19/index.html
I myself would like to know the answers to 3, 4, & 5 (any advice).
French Insider
11-06-21, 18:43
In my experience probably half of working girls in Bangkok will do a threesome and not even blink. So just go to any massage place with happy ending or any other place you can find working girls at the moment and just ask which girls will do it.
You would need to be specific in exactly what they will do. Some girls will do anything, some will only allow her pussy to be licked but not lick your girls pussy, some girls will only lick your girls pussy but not allow her pussy to be licked etc. Hence be very specific what you want.
In my experience with threesomes it is best to just go into the situation with the expectation to just have fun. Sometimes it is great, other times it just doesn't work out. Hence, start with low expectations and anything above that is a bonus.Good to know if a lot of girl do bi-sexual activities.
We expect to find a true bi-sexual girl. Not a girl who does everything for money without liking girls. We like very sexy underwear and GFE with a lot of erotism. Feeling is important to us.
To be honest, we are not really experienced in the domain because we only did a threesome twice. First time in Saigon and the second time in London (incredible. The girl known what she was doing. A real pro). Both girls were more luxury escort type because we paid a lot ($200 at Saigon and 350 GBP for 1.5 hour at our hotel each time). I had decided to paid more thinking to have a better result. Maybe it's not a guarantee. For that 2 experiences I don't regret it, it was great but I hope we will find better offers in Thailand.
French Insider
11-06-21, 19:35
Analisa offers a Couples Tantra Massage with a full service option: https://www.analisamassage.com/services.
Smooci has a lesbian option in their escort filter: https://smooci.com.
Contact massage shops like Tulip and Doki Doki and ask if they offer couples massages.
SL.Thanks for the websites. Is there a website for Tulip? I don't find it.
Hello friends!
I'm planning my first mongering trip to Thailand in the next few weeks and I'll be mostly interested in freelancers. My plan is to use Tinder & Thai Friendly to find girls, and I'll be looking mostly for girls who are interested in overnight stays (I guess that's what's called LT, right?
This is my first trip to Thailand so I'm a bit confused, or should I say overwhelmed, with how everything works, so I thought I should ask for some tips from you guys. Right now I'm focused on understanding the accommodations market. I'm interested in a small apartment that will be good enough for few weeks stay. It should allow bringing girls in of course, and it should have all the standard facilities plus some fancy / luxury ones if possible (a jacuzzi would be cool). My question is where should I be looking to find accommodations? In all of my recent trips to Europe I've been using Booking and sometimes AirBnb, are these apps popular in Thailand as well? Any advantage for one over the other? What about hotels, is it allowed to bring girls into hotels? (though tbh I would prefer an apartment). Well, any advice would be truly appreciated! My plan is to stay for about 2-3 weeks in Bangkok and another 2-3 in Pattaya, so while I know this is the Bangkok thread, advice will be appreciated for Pattaya as well.
Also, any other tips for a first mongering trip would be welcomed and appreciated.
Are you okay? Did you not RTFF? ? I even linked the reports and all of those beer bars / restaurants / coffee shops were mentioned. Look at the quotes below. He didn't like what he saw, plus they are just out for making drinks. He and you just must have different set of eyes for talent. Or maybe there is some comprehension issues. I trust him. I have yet to see ONE "proven" recent report by anyone on this forum about taking an ex "hot" Gogo bar or "hot" Thermae girl from these beer bars that are open. Everybody knows it doesn't take much to work Nana or Thermae. The hotter ones all went online to the Thai websites like he said. He sent me the pics on the sites and their matching pics from the Gogo bars Facebooks. He's getting them now for 1300-1500 outcall. Bad ass.
"Beer Garden is open but pretty dismal, it was a walk in, walk out type of deal. Saw some past their prime ladies playing pool, while being eye fucked by some guys, sipping drinks, who looked as if they were just waiting to die. It was a sad sight indeed. There are a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi, just to the left as you make your way in. But once again, the talent level was simply yuck. Not a very happening place to be. It's the same feeling you get the you walk into a GoGo bar, and there are a bunch of fuglies trying to dance on stage, the mamasan comes and says "you can choose," and you just want to leave, but too embarrassed for them (not you). Yeah, it's like that."
"If you are bored and need to sit, drink covertly, and have paid company pretending to care about what you have to say, then there are plenty of options. There are some more previously mentioned joints opened on Soi 11, Soi Biergarten."
"I'm not an alcoholic, I don't need to drink, unless there is entertainment. I didn't find anything entertaining worth my time. It's like those girlie bars on But Vien street. But imagine if there was no street crowd to gaze at. You walk in, and the vultures attack and you get nothing back like those expat bars on Pasteur in HCM. Waste of time, unless require a lady as a drinking buddy to tell your sorrows to. None of the girls, I would consider taking home.""Beer Garden is open but pretty dismal, it was a walk in, walk out type of deal. Saw some past their prime ladies playing pool, while being eye fucked by some guys, sipping drinks, who looked as if they were just waiting to die. It was a sad sight indeed. There are a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi, just to the left as you make your way in. But once again, the talent level was simply yuck. Not a very happening place to be. It's the same feeling you get the you walk into a GoGo bar, and there are a bunch of fuglies trying to dance on stage, the mamasan comes and says "you can choose," and you just want to leave, but too embarrassed for them (not you). Yeah, it's like that."
You might recall that was exactly the passage from his first report you posted that I both agreed with (overall generally and regarding Beer Garden at the time) and I questioned what he meant by "a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi, just to the left as you make your way in", in my reply to it. The empty cubicles "just to the left" on Soi 7 "as you make your way in" have permanent mesh curtains blocking the entire entrance and there are no "people inside" because the curtains are there to prevent exactly that from happening. Then, once you walk into the passage that is open (no curtain) none of those bars have "curtains with people behind them." So it appeared from his description that he did not walk into the area with those dozen or more beer bars and often packed with girls. I asked for more clarification about that for a reason I mention below.
He also never mentioned anything about Hillary 2 on Soi Nana/Soi 4 being open at the time of his first report, one of the largest beer bars on that soi offering food, drink, pool, girls.
Other expats and I chatted by PM about that report and could not decide if he was omitting any mention of those things and more accurate info on the Soi 7 bars down that small alley because he did not want to subject them to a possible raid or because he never actually found them. See, many of us expats living here had not mentioned or posted reports on them and I did not mention them more fully in my reply because we did not want to subject them to a possible raid, which was a risk at the time.
However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1, three days before your friend's recent survey of the area where he only mentioned going "towards" Soi 7 but never mentioned walking "down" Soi 7 to actually enter those bars and that he was afraid to walk down to look at Soi Nana/Soi 4 where he would have seen several bars open and hosting a lot of girls, it seemed pretty obvious it was because he had missed them.
Of course, nobody can account for what kind of girls show up in bars or what the scene is like at every hour of every night. That is true even during the best of normal times. But I assure you any good looking girl your friend saw anywhere in public in the lower Sukhumvit area over the past 40 days has passed through and planted herself in those bar areas I mentioned above on a regular basis. Maybe the fleeting few seconds he looked at those places from a distance before he walked away in disgust the only girls around were "yuck" and the scene sucked.
All I can say is any night I have gone to those places over the past several weeks a big percentage of the customers crowded in there are young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys who don't appear to me the types who have much trouble getting well laid by attractive girls in their own country for free. They might never have even bothered looking for info on a sight like this one much less reported on it. Yet, they are THERE in those bars partying with girls I would say are at least on par with the photos you posted and walking out with them looking quite happy about it.
No hot girls there? Yes, I suppose that is a matter of opinion. Only Ladydrink hustlers? Yes, there are some girls who are only there to hustle drinks and not barfine. Ask the girl if she goes with customers before you buy a drink. Maybe the best looking among them are only drink hustlers. Again, that can be true in many bars even during the best of normal times.
However, I had to fight my way through plenty of MORE than doable girls at those Soi 7 bars last night to get to an adorable little spinner Rainbow 2 girl I took once from that Nana Plaza go-go bar just pre-Covid who at that time would not budge from 3,000 plus barfine for Short Time. Last night I paid 500 barfine and she enthusiastically agreed to 2,000 for Long Time from about 9:30pm until 10am this morning, DFK, BBBJ, beautiful hairless pussy, no baby, lovely natural tits, BBFS+CIP no problem for me and agreed to upfront before barfine, great Real GFE and attitude. And there was no weird surprise when she showed up at my room as an escort or outcall because she was right there live and in-person where I took her.
Is that what your friend is getting with his 1,500 baht outcall girls? If so, good for him. As a 68 year old I guess ok-looking farang I was rather pleased with what I paid and got for my money all night last night and this morning.
IMHO, anyone who took your friend's first report and especially his most recent one to heart and followed suit missed out on a ton of damn good pussy options at half the usual going rate or less all in.
Sure, as always, YMMV.
...He also never mentioned anything about Hillary 2 on Soi Nana/Soi 4 being open at the time of his first report, one of the largest beer bars on that soi offering food, drink, pool, girls...Yes he did. Soi Biergarten is the same as Soi 7. And he wrote about Hillary 2 already. Really, maybe it's time to give the American Politics a break and rejoin us in the Bangkok thread. It's messing with your mind. You are missing things. I will ask him for a new update, but he tells me that the alcohol thing are just busts waiting to happen.
Nana is dark, dead, and empty besides a couple of security guys at the entrance. This shit is not even debatable and I'm not sure why anybody would post anything about any clubs such as Billboard's being secretly opened. It's not, end of story. Across from Nana there are a few stragglers hanging out in the deaf girls section next to Hooters, but nothing I would stick my dick in. Even if it was for free and doubled condom. The taco stand in the same parking lot has some activity with a little bit of food, little bit of drinks, and a few past their due date ladies. But once again, nothing I would waste my own time with. As for the rest of Soi 4, I only walked to Hillary 2, which was open, a bit busy, with some live music and lots of people, but not my cup of tea. I never hung out there even in when Bangkok was at its best. The talent just isn't there. It's like a has been type of atmosphere with bad karaoke, filled with fake laughter. Just too weird for me. I'm just too fly for this shit, so I gots to go.
NicFrenchy
11-07-21, 12:53
Hello friends!
I'm planning my first mongering trip to Thailand in the next few weeks and I'll be mostly interested in freelancers. My plan is to use Tinder & Thai Friendly to find girls, and I'll be looking mostly for girls who are interested in overnight stays (I guess that's what's called LT, right?
This is my first trip to Thailand so I'm a bit confused, or should I say overwhelmed, with how everything works, so I thought I should ask for some tips from you guys. Right now I'm focused on understanding the accommodations market. I'm interested in a small apartment that will be good enough for few weeks stay. It should allow bringing girls in of course, and it should have all the standard facilities plus some fancy / luxury ones if possible (a jacuzzi would be cool). My question is where should I be looking to find accommodations? In all of my recent trips to Europe I've been using Booking and sometimes AirBnb, are these apps popular in Thailand as well? Any advantage for one over the other? What about hotels, is it allowed to bring girls into hotels? (though tbh I would prefer an apartment). Well, any advice would be truly appreciated! My plan is to stay for about 2-3 weeks in Bangkok and another 2-3 in Pattaya, so while I know this is the Bangkok thread, advice will be appreciated for Pattaya as well.
Also, any other tips for a first mongering trip would be welcomed and appreciated.First, Tinder or ThaiFriendly will be difficult (but not impossible). Girls will not be interested in someone who is not here / now. They're not really into "planning dates" because they probably have either been stood up or may find someone better in the meantime.
You can start a week before arrival, saying you are in Bangkok already, they will see you as a tangible prospect. (imagine how many men contact these girls from overseas? And what % of these guys are truthful? There are a lot of scammers out there).
Second, Accommodation, I always prefer hotels, because in case of an issue the hotel will help you 100%. If you rent an apartment from AirBnB, you will have a great time until you run into drama with a girl and there the building security (if he's not sleeping) or the Juristic won't be flying to your help but contact the real unit owner.
If you're having Freelancers that you pay for (my guess is that's what you want), always check them in at the reception, for your own safety!! That prevents the girl from putting a roofie in your beverage and cleaning you dry. By the time you wake up, she'll be long gone. Having her check her ID at reception will ensure that when she goes back to collect it, the hotel will call your room to check that you are ok and safe.
Hello friends!
I'm planning my first mongering trip to Thailand in the next few weeks and I'll be mostly interested in freelancers. My plan is to use Tinder & Thai Friendly to find girls, and I'll be looking mostly for girls who are interested in overnight stays (I guess that's what's called LT, right?
This is my first trip to Thailand so I'm a bit confused, or should I say overwhelmed, with how everything works, so I thought I should ask for some tips from you guys. Right now I'm focused on understanding the accommodations market. I'm interested in a small apartment that will be good enough for few weeks stay. It should allow bringing girls in of course, and it should have all the standard facilities plus some fancy / luxury ones if possible (a jacuzzi would be cool). My question is where should I be looking to find accommodations? In all of my recent trips to Europe I've been using Booking and sometimes AirBnb, are these apps popular in Thailand as well? Any advantage for one over the other? What about hotels, is it allowed to bring girls into hotels? (though tbh I would prefer an apartment). Well, any advice would be truly appreciated! My plan is to stay for about 2-3 weeks in Bangkok and another 2-3 in Pattaya, so while I know this is the Bangkok thread, advice will be appreciated for Pattaya as well.
Also, any other tips for a first mongering trip would be welcomed and appreciated.Being the first timer has its challenges. Girls can sniff one out easily. Act as if you have been there many times and know the deal. Not many Thai girls know passable English. Dating sites are hit and miss. Since you are planning a long term stay you need not plan ahead. Land, get settled, probe your options. Although Thai girls come across as most friendly there are seasoned bad apples. But with right attitude and safety awareness you can have a great time.
Yes, there are plenty of furnished apartments you can rent but security is not well enforced. There are plenty of hotels in all price ranges. There are long term hotels also. Most are girl friendly. Ask before renting.
Usual precautions are do not get drunk, be aware of your surroundings and do not carry valuables and carry only local currency for your needs in your pocket. Rest should be locked up in safe in your room.
There are plenty of tourist things to take in. If you find a girl to do those things with it would be a great vacation.
Banana Boi
11-07-21, 14:20
I'm planning my first mongering trip to Thailand in the next few weeks and I'll be mostly interested in freelancers. My plan is to use Tinder & Thai Friendly to find girls, and I'll be looking mostly for girls who are interested in overnight stays (I guess that's what's called LT, right? <snip> I've been using Booking and sometimes AirBnb, are these apps popular in Thailand as well? This is your first trip to Thailand. Don't go in with a pre-conceived notion that you are only going to do FL girls. Maximize your success rate by opening yourself up to all types of venues. Gems are found when you least expect it in Thailand. Hopefully bars will be allowed to legally open by the time you arrive. Almost all girls in Thailand will do LT.
Unless things have changed AirBNB is illegal in Thailand. They are definitely available but not sure how the Immigration Officer will react when you show him your hotel confirmation is an AirBNB. Anyone done this before? Given that you are leaning towards FL girls, I'm sure you can find cheap hotel accommodations near Nana BTS for cheap. BKK hotels are a fraction of the cost now compared to a normal high season.
You can try reading the Pattaya Hotels and Bangkok hotels threads in this forum.
Etaoin2003
11-07-21, 16:15
This is my first trip to Thailand so I'm a bit confused, or should I say overwhelmedStay in a hotel. Any girls you bring back should deposit their ID at the front desk.
Keep your valuables locked up.
Don't limit yourself to TF, etc. Check out oily massage, BJ bars, beer bars, FL hangout bars.
Be brave and eat the noodles from the street vendor.
Be polite to everyone, including the ladyboys in front of the luggage shop on Sukhumvit. (They're actually hilarious.).
Don't believe anything a tuktuk driver tells you.
Get out and see the sights -- not just the entertainment district.
Insist on the taxi meter.
Use the BTS and MTR.
Pace yourself. Don't drink too much alcohol. Try an iced coffee.
HorseTrader
11-07-21, 18:10
Stay in a hotel. Any girls you bring back should deposit their ID at the front desk.
Keep your valuables locked up.
Don't limit yourself to TF, etc. Check out oily massage, BJ bars, beer bars, FL hangout bars.
Be brave and eat the noodles from the street vendor.
Be polite to everyone, including the ladyboys in front of the luggage shop on Sukhumvit. (They're actually hilarious.).
Don't believe anything a tuktuk driver tells you.
Get out and see the sights -- not just the entertainment district.
Insist on the taxi meter.
Use the BTS and MTR.
Pace yourself. Don't drink too much alcohol. Try an iced coffee.Great post! I'm happy to say that I only learned one of these lessons the hard way: Always insist the taxi driver use the meter. Thai taxis will almost always offer a firm price to go from A to B, but that price is always much higher than if you use the meter. Much higher. If you use the meter, you might need to pay tolls, so always have Thai cash for that.
The other suggestion I have is that many places do not have free public toilets. Be sure to always have a few Thai coins for that.
Wow, so many responses to my novice question. Many good tips I appreciate it so much!
Let me clarify some things after reading all the comments. First, as one of you folks noticed I intend to stay in the same place for few weeks, so yes, my plan is to start talking to girls only when I'm already there (or maybe few days before, but I'll tell them I'm already there). Also, yeah I intend to pay for girls (at least that's my intention LOL unless something magical will happen. I've heard stories of girls that didn't ask for money after a good night bang.). I appreciate the tip to always keep my precious stuff in a safe and register the girl at the reception, I will remember that.
Regarding accommodation, so I'm really after an apartment but that can also be an apartments hotel (that is it doesn't have to be a private house. Just a big hotel room with everything I need for a long stay and for remote work). Surely I would prefer a good hotel with security and reception and other facilities over an Airbnb apartment, but I'm wondering what's the best way to find the hotel I'm looking for? A 2 bedroom apartment with kitchen and nice amenities would be ideal. Any recommendations? Should I check in Booking or Agora or Hotels.com?
Lastly, just to clarify, I do intend to check out everything the city has to offer, anything from sex tourism to regular tourist attractions, just wanted to keep my question focused on the things that are not entirely clear to me. I hope that indeed by the time I'll arrive (probably early December) many things will be open.
So I guess I'm still not sure what would be the best platform to look for (apartment) hotels.
Thank you so much!
Banana Boi
11-07-21, 18:36
Agree the taxi meter point is one that we often forget to tell newbies. If the taxi driver refuses to turn on the meter just tell him to stop the car and let you out. Try doing this before he drives too far to avoid a problem. If you have luggage make sure he is going to use the meter BEFORE you put your luggage in. Some times you need to stop 3 or 4 taxis before one agrees to use the meter. I often tip BKK taxi drivers over 100% if I hop in and he turns on the meter right away no questions asked. I let him know the reason I'm tipping is he used a meter. On the contrary I have never tipped a single Pattaya taxi driver and their rip off prices.
Explorer8939
11-07-21, 18:54
Agree the taxi meter point is one that we often forget to tell newbies. If the taxi driver refuses to turn on the meter just tell him to stop the car and let you out. Try doing this before he drives too far to avoid a problem. If you have luggage make sure he is going to use the meter BEFORE you put your luggage in. Some times you need to stop 3 or 4 taxis before one agrees to use the meter. I often tip BKK taxi drivers over 100% if I hop in and he turns on the meter right away no questions asked. I let him know the reason I'm tipping is he used a meter. On the contrary I have never tipped a single Pattaya taxi driver and their rip off prices.I use Bolt when possible.
Agree the taxi meter point is one that we often forget to tell newbies. If the taxi driver refuses to turn on the meter just tell him to stop the car and let you out. Try doing this before he drives too far to avoid a problem. If you have luggage make sure he is going to use the meter BEFORE you put your luggage in. Some times you need to stop 3 or 4 taxis before one agrees to use the meter. I often tip BKK taxi drivers over 100% if I hop in and he turns on the meter right away no questions asked. I let him know the reason I'm tipping is he used a meter. On the contrary I have never tipped a single Pattaya taxi driver and their rip off prices.Welcome back b. B, time for some useful information again! I do same for taxi tip when their honest, any input on apps that give you price upfront on app, grab, Uber, bolt, is their a similar one to indriver like in Colombia & where you can offer a price?
I appreciate the warnings here about the Airbnbs and the risks mentioned may be valid. However, I have probably rented a dozen or so, several for a month long stay almost all in the heart of the Nana / Soi Cowboy neighborhood and my experiences have all been positive. I am always flying in from West Coast of USA and the cheapest flights have always landed me there at midnight so I get a first night stay at a hotel near the airport with a free shuttle service. Maybe that is why I have not had difficulty at customs with a stay inquiry, don't know, but never been a problem before. I am looking at Airbnbs from Nov-Dec-Jan and everything is way discounted by over half of what I have paid for in the past, very nice looking modern studios /1 bd apartments in high-rises with pool and gym going from $600-$1500/ month. That's amazing. With that said, hotel stays are also quite a deal right now.
Houston Player
11-08-21, 00:01
However, I had to fight my way through plenty of MORE than doable girls at those Soi 7 bars last night to get to an adorable little spinner Rainbow 2 girl I took once from that Nana Plaza go-go bar just pre-Covid who at that time would not budge from 3,000 plus barfine for Short Time. Last night I paid 500 barfine and she enthusiastically agreed to 2,000 for Long Time from about 9:30pm until 10am this morning, DFK, BBBJ, beautiful hairless pussy, no baby, lovely natural tits, BBFS+CIP no problem for me and agreed to upfront before barfine, great Real GFE and attitude. And there was no weird surprise when she showed up at my room as an escort or outcall because she was right there live and in-person where I took her.Haha I see you know Mint.
NicFrenchy
11-08-21, 01:39
Wow, so many responses to my novice question. Many good tips I appreciate it so much!We used to have a Haven in Bangkok for new folks / first timers. The Livingstone's lodge (it's long gone now) but this was a great place to meet other mongers and ISG folks.
They had a small bar and the owner, the Infamous "Giotto" was always there to help you solve / guide you with any issue. I miss the Lodge. Especially the Roulade Sausage.
Yes he did. Soi Biergarten is the same as Soi 7. And he wrote about Hillary 2 already. Really, maybe it's time to give the American Politics a break and rejoin us in the Bangkok thread. It's messing with your mind. You are missing things. I will ask him for a new update, but he tells me that the alcohol thing are just busts waiting to happen.Well, he couldn't have known anything about what was happening at Hillary 2 as late as November 4 if he was still too afraid to look at Soi Nana/Soi 4 by then. There would have been half a dozen or more beer bars open on Soi 4 that night.
Beergarden Soi 7 has been dead most nights but even that bar was filled with more girls last Friday and Saturday night than I have seen during most normal times. I just looked in and did not stay.
There must have been 200+ girls working in those Soi 7 bars on those two nights. Probability alone would suggest not all of them would be "yuck" or refuse to barfine and go with customers. Nights when those Soi 7 bars are packed with customers and, therefore, girls, you likely wouldn't see many girls hanging out in front of Thermae because that is where they went instead.
Other than the girls tending bar, most of those 200+ girls are freelancers who come and go, sit at any bar they want on any night. It is possible some of the girls checking their phones are arranging outcall with customers like your friend who might or might not encounter a "yuck" girl from among them when she shows up at his door for a safe and well-behaved 1,500 baht Short Time.
After a crazy hurricane force wind and rainstorm that hit hard and moved on and it being a Sunday, I saw only about 10% or fewer of the girls and customers compared with Friday and Saturday when I passed by last night. And, as expected, since there were so few customers in the Soi 7 bar collection, there were many more girls hanging out in front of Thermae than usual.
Again, presumably there will be only one more weekend without go-go bars being open (rumored to be as soon as November 16). And it could be other clubs and venues will follow. So what that bar collection will be like on popular nights after that happens is anybody's guess.
Really, you shouldn't let something someone posts in the American Politics forum rile you up into a frazzle about where there really were scores of sweet doable pussy available despite what your friend asked you to post for him.
Haha I see you know Mint.Yes, I know Mint and have seen her there. Also other girls from the Rainbow bars, Spanky's, Billboard, Butterflies, Lollipop, Crazy House and Tilac have been showing up in those and other Soi Nana/Soi 4 beerbars marking time until their go-go bars re-open. More of them started returning to Bangkok from their provinces weeks ago on word that bars and restaurants were more freely serving on site and therefore drawing customers to the tourist areas.
On a related note, a big new beerbar just opened on Soi 8 in the old Via Vai Italian restaurant location across from Monsoon called Rumour's Soi 8. Bar, pool, girls.
I think Soi 8 is slowly turning into a mini Soi Nana/Soi 4 bar area. But just beerbars, no go-go bars. Yet. Lol
Member #4753
11-08-21, 04:16
Since the pandemic started I have not jumped into 1 taxi that did not turn on the meter straight away.
Alas, with the return of the crowds the BS not turn on the meter crap will probably start again.
NicFrenchy
11-08-21, 07:11
Since the pandemic started I have not jumped into 1 taxi that did not turn on the meter straight away.
Alas, with the return of the crowds the BS not turn on the meter crap will probably start again.Also, they don't lock the doors and open the window so that you can tell your destination first, for them to consider if they want to go there or not.
Covid or no Covid, screw these guys. GRAB car all the way for me.
We used to have a Haven in Bangkok for new folks / first timers. The Livingstone's lodge (it's long gone now) but this was a great place to meet other mongers and ISG folks.
They had a small bar and the owner, the Infamous "Giotto" was always there to help you solve / guide you with any issue. I miss the Lodge. Especially the Roulade Sausage.IIRC, my first bar after I checked in the Nana Hotel on my first trip was a small place in the upstairs right corner of Nanaplaza, can't recall the name. Perfect for when I took my first stroll through the GoGos with Stickman.
Those were the days you could get a reasonably priced threesome with toys and good loooking girls at 3 pm anyday you wanted at Eden Club.
Some answers are scattered throughout the last month or two of posts in the various Thailand sections. Suggest you spend an hour reading them. You will get a flavor for what's happening, but more important is you will see that what's happening today may be very different from what will be happening when you arrive in late December or early January. The changes are maddening.
Also suggest looking at The Thaiger (daily YouTube updates) and Bangkok Post and others. Those sources include Thai news that targets tourists.Some very helpful and really useful responses. Thanks guys. In the event I do get there I'll obviously report back.
Member #4753
11-09-21, 01:36
IIRC, my first bar after I checked in the Nana Hotel on my first trip was a small place in the upstairs right corner of Nanaplaza, can't recall the name. Perfect for when I took my first stroll through the GoGos with Stickman.
Those were the days you could get a reasonably priced threesome with toys and good loooking girls at 3 pm anyday you wanted at Eden Club.10+ years ago the Eden Club was amazing, so many doable girls. Last time I went in there about 2 years ago there was not even a maybe.
Have a 2 week trip booked for late Nov / early Dec, splitting time between BKK and Pattaya. I've submitted the required docs to the Thailand Pass system for exemption from quarantine, and received an automated email saying the result of the registration will be sent within 7 working days. Well it's been more than 7 business days now with no reply, has anyone else on the board gotten a response?
Member #4733
11-09-21, 13:57
I took a taxi near Lumphini park. I wanted to go to my hotel near Khao San Road. He turned on the meter immediately. I saw Dusit! As I had been there the day before I recognized it. Arrived in about one hour. Cost was appr 100 baht. A taxi from Khao San Road to Soi Cowboy. I was quoted 200. Couldn't find one taxi that wanted to turn on the meter. I settled for 100 baht. The guy drove me straight and quickly to Soi Cowboy. No detours. A taxi from Soi Cowboy back to my hotel near Khao San Road. Was quoted 400 baht. I kept asking others but couldn't find a better price than 200 baht. Ok. I never had a ride like that before or after. Wow. 140 km / HR through Bangkok at night. No other cars, no danger. I had learnt my lesson.
Those three were on my first trip to Thailand. From then on I negotiate. It is quicker and more transparent. If someone wants to use the meter and give me a tour around Bangkok I simply decline. Fixed price and everybody is happy. Just learn to negotiate first. Even better than this. The hotel ordered a taxi for me. Straight to my planned point of arrival for little money. Of course you can do a detour around Bangkok and than tip him double or more. No problem. Taxi metres are a scam. In Russia it is worse than in Bangkok but in Bangkok too it remains a scam.
Then the last time I was there, I tried GRAB. First time I saw a lot of taxis passing by before my Grab taxi finally came. Not bad but not much cheaper. I tried it once again. Firts he couldn't find me. Then a kind of ambulance (small type) arrived. I was shocked. But well, I had been waiting 20 minutes, so I got in. I saw a lot of Bangkok. Went to the wrong hotel. I complained. Well, we will drive you to the right hotel but you got to pay extra. Why?? I declined. He drove me anyway but I will not forget about that. He broke all rules but just drove too fast to cause a serious accident. Never again.
Explorer8939
11-09-21, 15:33
Have a 2 week trip booked for late Nov / early Dec, splitting time between BKK and Pattaya. I've submitted the required docs to the Thailand Pass system for exemption from quarantine, and received an automated email saying the result of the registration will be sent within 7 working days. Well it's been more than 7 business days now with no reply, has anyone else on the board gotten a response?They are processing based on earliest flight date.
We used to have a Haven in Bangkok for new folks / first timers. The Livingstone's lodge (it's long gone now) but this was a great place to meet other mongers and ISG folks.
They had a small bar and the owner, the Infamous "Giotto" was always there to help you solve / guide you with any issue. I miss the Lodge. Especially the Roulade Sausage.As long as it was the roulade, LOL.
Wondering what happened to the whole bunch, including Guido and his later German restaurant (where sausage was served) in Patpong.
Banana Boi
11-09-21, 19:06
A taxi from Soi Cowboy back to my hotel near Khao San Road. Was quoted 400 baht. I kept asking others but couldn't find a better price than 200 baht. Even in Bangkok it may not be easy getting a metered taxi leaving tourist areas like Nana, Cowboy, or even Patpong, Walk a couple blocks then catch a taxi. If Sukhumvit is jammed try a side street heading towards your location away from Sukhumvit.
Yes there is always a trade off of the quick convenient taxi or tuk tuk vs. waiting in the heat for your Grab car. Taxis also know that if you are with a girl you're likely not going to want to look like a cheap ass negotiating over 100 baht more. Try catching one of those taxis on South Pattaya Road leaving Walking Street. Pattaya taxis wait in line for an hour to get their ride so they want to make the most baht they can. They'd rather sit an hour for a 200-400 baht sucker instead of driving around waiting for people to wave them down for a ride. Same for Pattaya motorbikes. Pro tip - walk to the taxi at the end of the line who just dropped someone off and you will get a cheaper rate. Have your Thai girl negotiate for you. If she's hot it may lower the rate.
Banana Boi
11-09-21, 19:24
I use Bolt when possible.What's your average wait time for a Bolt car in Bangkok? In Pattaya?
Are Grab cars more readily available than Bolt?
Even in Bangkok it may not be easy getting a metered taxi leaving tourist areas like Nana, Cowboy, or even Patpong, Walk a couple blocks then catch a taxi. If Sukhumvit is jammed try a side street heading towards your location away from Sukhumvit.
Yes there is always a trade off of the quick convenient taxi or tuk tuk vs. waiting in the heat for your Grab car. Taxis also know that if you are with a girl you're likely not going to want to look like a cheap ass negotiating over 100 baht more. Try catching one of those taxis on South Pattaya Road leaving Walking Street. Total scams especially when the baht bus is right around the corner.Welcome back b. B, time for some useful information again! I do same for taxi tip when their honest, any input on apps that give you price upfront on app, grab, Uber, bolt, is their a similar one to indriver like in Colombia & where you can offer a price?
Good to know if a lot of girl do bi-sexual activities.
We expect to find a true bi-sexual girl. Not a girl who does everything for money without liking girls...Gop / Golf at Tulip is really bisexual. She lives with a woman.
Ying is really a pervert. I don't know whether she is truly bi. She really likes to get off and in that mind-space, she likes being serviced by a woman just because it gets her off.
Explorer8939
11-09-21, 22:34
What's your average wait time for a Bolt car in Bangkok? In Pattaya?
Are Grab cars more readily available than Bolt?I use Bolt a lot in Pattaya. They usually come in a few minutes, unless there is flooding.
400 baht. Roughly $12.
Soi Cowboy to Khao San Rd roughly 6 miles - 20/25 minutes.
That actually seems about right in American value.
Banana Boi
11-10-21, 00:21
400 baht. Roughly $12.
Soi Cowboy to Khao San Rd roughly 6 miles - 20/25 minutes.
That actually seems about right in American value.I recall paying roughly 85 baht from thermae (same area as cowboy) to khaosan. Obviously it's not about the money it's about a taxi driver wanting to take advantage of farang by charging 4 or 5 times more because he believes that you are a stupid unknowing farang who will pay 400 baht.
HorseTrader
11-10-21, 01:02
I recall paying roughly 85 baht from thermae (same area as cowboy) to khaosan.That was for a taxi? You did well. About 1.5 years ago my Thai non-P4P girl arranged a tuktuk from Khaosan to Terminal 21 during rush hour. If I recall, I paid 100 baht. That was one wild and crazy ride that I won't repeat!
They are processing based on earliest flight date.Thanks, makes sense. Not sure how lively things will be but couldn't pass up the rates at SGS and Hilton in Pattaya.
NicFrenchy
11-10-21, 02:29
400 baht. Roughly $12.
Soi Cowboy to Khao San Rd roughly 6 miles - 20/25 minutes.
That actually seems about right in American value.Who gives a damn about American value in Bangkok? Would you pay 7 K ST because that's ok with American standards?
That makes no sense whatseover.
NicFrenchy
11-10-21, 02:34
Then the last time I was there, I tried GRAB. First time I saw a lot of taxis passing by before my Grab taxi finally came. Not bad but not much cheaper. I tried it once again. Firts he couldn't find me. Then a kind of ambulance (small type) arrived. I was shocked. But well, I had been waiting 20 minutes, so I got in. I saw a lot of Bangkok. Went to the wrong hotel. I complained. Well, we will drive you to the right hotel but you got to pay extra. Why?? I declined. He drove me anyway but I will not forget about that. He broke all rules but just drove too fast to cause a serious accident. Never again.First, if it's not Raining, I always use Grab Bike. It's cheap and gets you where you need to go quick.
Second, I never use Grab Taxi, you get the same rundown cabs with the smelly farmers driving and trying to pull one on you.
Use Grab Car, they're regular folks, men or women using their own clean car to get you right where you want to go for a fixed fee. You can choose to pay via credit card or cash. It's easy.
Only pickle is they follow the GPS religiously so if you have a preferred route, best to tell them, unlike the taxis, they listen and follow.
Member #4753
11-10-21, 02:38
100 is about right now for Soi cowboy to khaosan. That is during covid times where traffic is very light.
When things return to normal and traffic thicker, the price will probably be 120. It is quicker getting bts or mrt to other side of town and then quick 50 baht taxi to khaosan. I prefer this as I do not like dealing with taxi drivers or spending too much time in these death traps.
I have noticed more activity since November 1. The bars / resturantson on lower sukhumwit are seeing more activity of farangs and girls arriving. It is still at less than 5% normal levels, but it is nice to see the start of life. If it continues to pick up it might be at say 1/3 capacity levels by March.
I recall paying roughly 85 baht from thermae (same area as cowboy) to khaosan. Obviously it's not about the money it's about a taxi driver wanting to take advantage of farang by charging 4 or 5 times more because he believes that you are a stupid unknowing farang who will pay 400 baht.Hi, BB.
Not to defend Bangkok taxi drivers gouging on stated flat fares or those who will unnecessarily choose a longer, more round about route when they are on meter, especially when taking non Thais to or from red light areas. But I finally decided to buy a motorbike several months ago and have to say the bowl of spaghetti mess of to and from routes on the streets around here is weirder than I have personally experienced driving a vehicle in any other city.
It is common to be able to go from A to B on a fast and relatively direct route and not be able to return from B to A by simply retracing the same route in reverse. Even following a presumably impartial GPS Map app on my smartphone from, say, Soi Nana to Chatuchack Weekend Market in Mo Chit will result in exactly the kind of seemingly endless left, right, in and out of a maze of alleys and side street experience that used to have me scratching my head in the back seat of a taxi wondering WTF is this guy doing.
Also, the GPS route I followed was a parade of other lone Thai and farang motorbike riders so I doubt in that case there was a much better route we all should have taken instead.
Later, to return using that same GPS Map app? Forget about seeing anything familiar from the earlier ride to the Market.
And all of it can depend on the day of the week, time of day or night, what I might already know or the GPS Map app knows about current traffic jams, construction issues and so on.
After getting my bike, I discovered a leisurely ride from the corner of Sukhumvit Soi 4 to Patpong 1 took me less than 10 minutes even during high traffic times of the evening. Of course, that's on a two wheel vehicle that can split traffic lanes and I will sometimes cheat like all bike riders do by turning left or right when the coast is clear whether I've got the traffic signal go ahead to do it or not, making a U-turn on a main road where it is not permitted, driving a short while going the wrong way on a One-Way street because doing so cuts my travel time in half, etc. Things automobile taxis dare not do very often if at all.
And, as I am sure you already know but some might not, it can really matter and make a big difference in terms of travel time and fare cost to your destination if you hail and hop into a taxi on one side of Sukhumvit, Asok or wherever vs the other side to start with.
Anyway, just saying now that I know, for example, how close Patpong is to Nana Plaza if you can ride a two wheel vehicle as directly as possible but also now being more aware than before how an automobile can't possibly do it that way without getting stuck in even worse traffic and so on, I realize I was wrong about this or that taxi driver just trying to rip me off when it seemed like we circled the city for 40 minutes to make that same trip on a Friday night during normal times.
NicFrenchy
11-10-21, 03:47
I have noticed more activity since November 1. The bars / resturantson on lower sukhumwit are seeing more activity of farangs and girls arriving. It is still at less than 5% normal levels, but it is nice to see the start of life. If it continues to pick up it might be at say 1/3 capacity levels by March.One thing I am not looking forward to is all the kids going back to school, traffic in the morning will increase by a factor of at least 5 (if not more).
Sukhumvit is getting busier, especially in the evenings. Traffic is already back to 1/3 or what it usually is.
Banana Boi
11-10-21, 05:00
That was for a taxi? You did well. Yes, a metered taxi. It was at around 1 or 2 am though so traffic wasn't that bad. We were on the way to The Club on Khaosan.
Agree ET. Driving in Bangkok can be confusing with having to use totally different routes on your return trip. One thing I never understood in Bangkok and even cities with worse traffic like Jakarta, only a very few taxi drivers use Google maps to avoid traffic.
. One thing I never understood in Bangkok and even cities with worse traffic like Jakarta, only a very few taxi drivers use Google maps to avoid traffic.They can care the less. The meter runs also when they are at a stand still so it brings money in. Better than rushing you to destination in 10 minutes and not be able to catch a customer for the next 30'.
The meter will charge by the distance plus the stops. Win-win.
MutantChicken
11-10-21, 07:15
Who gives a damn about American value in Bangkok? Would you pay 7 K ST because that's ok with American standards?
That makes no sense whatseover.In these types of guys who import their western concepts of value from their homeland to Asia, that has created a void in members contributing actionable intel, you don't want your favourite girls / bars etc suddenly going from 1500 baht to 7000 b because he thinks its good value and can't be bothered to haggle, which is expected in Asia.
10+ years ago the Eden Club was amazing, so many doable girls. Last time I went in there about 2 years ago there was not even a maybe.Reminds me of Akane Fashion which was great fun more than 10 years ago, but year by year lost any ability to roster cute young girls.
NicFrenchy
11-11-21, 02:22
In these types of guys who import their western concepts of value from their homeland to Asia, that has created a void in members contributing actionable intel, you don't want your favourite girls / bars etc suddenly going from 1500 baht to 7000 b because he thinks its good value and can't be bothered to haggle, which is expected in Asia.Exactly that. All it achieves is it teaches Somying and Somchai that it is ok to overcharge the Foreigner, because they don't know and they will pay.
Member #4733
11-11-21, 10:58
BB and others: Thanks for the tips.
About Grab. I think I used a Grab car: the guy used a medical car (ambulance for those that can still walk but need to be picked up and brought to the hospital, hence my reservations), so I guess not a grab taxi but car. In Indonesia I used Go-jek and they did a good job, using Maps and GPS well. Grab car didn't. I picked the hotel on the map while ordering but they picked it by name and drove me to a totally different hotel, that shared part of the name and was a bit more well known. But there is still the possibility that I misunderstood. So, how can I be sure to have Grab car.
If you want to be puzzled by Bangkok's transport system then take a bus to Mo Chit station (from outside Bangkok) and try to get to the MRT Mo Chit with your luggage. Taxis didn't take me. Not even when I made clear to agree with any price. Ended up in a Tuk-tuk.
Getting a taxi from Khao San to Asok in rush hour seemed impossible. Until I proposed the nearest BTS station. Driver took me to Ratcha Tewi. From there I took the BTS to Asok.
If people take a motor taxi do you wear a helmet? I had an accident with helmet when I was still young. Now I won't take a ride without helmet.
In my hometown a lot of youngsters bought scooters and motor cycles. Seems Corona related. What to do with time and money. Now I get the idea that this is not a local thing.
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Other expats and I chatted by PM about that report and could not decide if he was omitting any mention of those things and more accurate info on the Soi 7 bars down that small alley because he did not want to subject them to a possible raid or because he never actually found them. See, many of us expats living here had not mentioned or posted reports on them and I did not mention them more fully in my reply because we did not want to subject them to a possible raid, which was a risk at the time.
However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1, three days before your friend's recent survey of the area where he only mentioned going "towards" Soi 7 but never mentioned walking "down" Soi 7 to actually enter those bars and that he was afraid to walk down to look at Soi Nana/Soi 4 where he would have seen several bars open and hosting a lot of girls, it seemed pretty obvious it was because he had missed them.
Of course, nobody can account for what kind of girls show up in bars or what the scene is like at every hour of every night. That is true even during the best of normal times. But I assure you any good looking girl your friend saw anywhere in public in the lower Sukhumvit area over the past 40 days has passed through and planted herself in those bar areas I mentioned above on a regular basis. Maybe the fleeting few seconds he looked at those places from a distance before he walked away in disgust the only girls around were "yuck" and the scene sucked.
All I can say is any night I have gone to those places over the past several weeks a big percentage of the customers crowded in there are young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys who don't appear to me the types who have much trouble getting well laid by attractive girls in their own country for free. They might never have even bothered looking for info on a sight like this one much less reported on it. Yet, they are THERE in those bars partying with girls I would say are at least on par with the photos you posted and walking out with them looking quite happy about it.
No hot girls there? Yes, I suppose that is a matter of opinion. Only Ladydrink hustlers? Yes, there are some girls who are only there to hustle drinks and not barfine. Ask the girl if she goes with customers before you buy a drink. Maybe the best looking among them are only drink hustlers. Again, that can be true in many bars even during the best of normal times.
However, I had to fight my way through plenty of MORE than doable girls at those Soi 7 bars last night to get to an adorable little spinner Rainbow 2 girl I took once from that Nana Plaza go-go bar just pre-Covid who at that time would not budge from 3,000 plus barfine for Short Time. Last night I paid 500 barfine and she enthusiastically agreed to 2,000 for Long Time from about 9:30pm until 10am this morning, DFK, BBBJ, beautiful hairless pussy, no baby, lovely natural tits, BBFS+CIP no problem for me and agreed to upfront before barfine, great Real GFE and attitude. And there was no weird surprise when she showed up at my room as an escort or outcall because she was right there live and in-person where I took her.
Is that what your friend is getting with his 1,500 baht outcall girls? If so, good for him. As a 68 year old I guess ok-looking farang I was rather pleased with what I paid and got for my money all night last night and this morning.
IMHO, anyone who took your friend's first report and especially his most recent one to heart and followed suit missed out on a ton of damn good pussy options at half the usual going rate or less all in.
Sure, as always, YMMV.Corrected again.
Whoever wrote, "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1."
Which is misinformation. Luckily, I don't mind setting people straight. Bars and entertainment venues HAVE NOT been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database. So there is no "were legally permitted" thing as was written.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2210707/tat-establishes-on-site-sha-clinic
Exactly like the article reads. Plus, on Sunday I was eating at Burger King next to Nana and met an inspector / cop preparing for inspection / raid. I pretended to be a newly arrived tourist and asked him about the rules. He said exactly what I wrote above. I asked him for recommendations to where to hang out and he told me to avoid places that DO NOT have the certificates and look like bars with fly by night BBQ pits outside. And he noted the ones on Soi 7. He said they know everything that goes on. So for expats in BKK who think they are some covert secret society with all this hidden information, that's funny as heck.
In order for the police to collect tea money or raid money, the owners of these shady businesses have to be able to accumulate money in the first place. This is how the war on drugs work and so does the world of corruption. So they let the sales go on until it's time to collect and pay up. And yes, the entire Sukhumvit are their eyes and ears from the viagra and sex toys vendors, beggars, fruit stands, motors taxis and much much more. It's an entire network. So please, don't think by not discussing open bars on sex forum, you are somehow one step ahead of the police here in Thailand and doing everybody a favor. What did people think happened when Lisa on the Beach Bar got raided in Pattaya? That bar was located almost next to the police station. Foreigners got arrested and fined and then the bar reopened up the next night. Mean to tell me owners didn't know and weren't involved? They create this false blanket of security as if they got some magic stick to allow them to break the rules.
So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm. Soi Nana was not much better. Looks that those pics. I am not sure why anybody would write that. Just think about it. It's a group of beer bars with no SHA certificates, no masks, illegally operating. So you are telling me these super hot girls that used to work in Gogo bars and Thermae are suddenly desperate enough to work out of these bar bars? The hotter ones are usually the smarter ones who know how to take care of themselves and their looks. Did they get dumb and stupid all of the sudden to risk working in illegal bars which can be raided at anytime? And outside Nana Plaza was not much better. Never once have I ever saw any talent worth getting from Stumble Inn or Morning Night in any of my trips to Thailand. Fun to me is not sitting and staring at the empty streets with scattered ladyboys, with a warm beer paid for the seat.
And if you have to pay 500 baht barfine to a girl you already know, during these low and slow times, then you have a problem. Especially, if you already had BBFS and GFE with her before. I have been in Thailand 20 months now. And as a tourist, no an expat or remote worker. I have not paid a barfine, even when everything was opened. Whether the girl was a new one or an old flame or a repeat. Who the heck pays for a barfine, when there is no alcohol sales after 9 pm? Seems like glorification at its best. Maybe it was all written in jest.
I even sat down and bought a 100 baht beer at the center bar when you walked in. The best looking thing was in that entire group of beer bars was a manager or PR girl just as you walk in. When I said best, I was am very nice. I spent about 15 minutes allowing her to grope my dick inside my shorts for a drink before I left. Funny thing is I saw her greet another customer and touches his face with the same hand. Nasty. On another night, there was a thin girl with dark hair, almost bob like haircut, wearing small shorts who tried to pull me in for drinks. She was walking on Soi 7 with another girl. We walked in together to those set of beer bars and I immediately wanted to walk out because it was dead. She was like "I go with you. " And so she did. No barfine and 1000ST. She was about the only decent thing I've seen in Soi 7, the entire 45 days I've been here. I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed, so I tipped her 50 baht. But yeah, there is still better talent to be found with incalls and outcalls for 1500. See the pic pf what the cat dragged in a few days ago for 1500. Used the open window on her as well.
Exactly that. All it achieves is it teaches Somying and Somchai that it is ok to overcharge the Foreigner, because they don't know and they will pay.No foreigner needs to teach a Thai, Cambodian, Chinese, Mexican, Columbian, Dominican, Romanian etc how to gouge or overcharge.
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If people take a motor taxi do you wear a helmet? I had an accident with helmet when I was still young. Now I won't take a ride without helmet.
In my hometown a lot of youngsters bought scooters and motor cycles. Seems Corona related. What to do with time and money. Now I get the idea that this is not a local thing.Some motorcycle taxi drivers here hand you a helmet and won't take you unless you wear it, some don't.
HorseTrader
11-11-21, 17:54
…I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed,…That was a classless act. I hope you at least had the lights out while she was pressed against the window.
Banana Boi
11-11-21, 18:22
Mo Chit station (from outside Bangkok) and try to get to the MRT Mo Chit with your luggage. Taxis didn't take me. Not even when I made clear to agree with any price. Ended up in a Tuk-tuk.I don't see why not unless it's a Saturday or Sunday when Chatuchak market is open.
Getting a taxi from Khao San to Asok in rush hour seemed impossible. Until I proposed the nearest BTS station.
No taxi driver wants to drive to Asok and Sukhumvit during rush hour unless youi find one of BionicMan's taxi drivers who don't mind sitting in heavy traffic.
In Indonesia I used Go-jek and they did a good job,
Always try using Bluebird in Jakarta.
NicFrenchy
11-12-21, 02:23
I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed, so I tipped her 50 baht.That is low, very low. Just because some girls don't look pretty and have to sell their body doesn't mean they are to be made fun of or taken advantage of.
You can still behave in a respectful manner.
That is low, very low. Just because some girls don't look pretty and have to sell their body doesn't mean they are to be made fun of or taken advantage of.
You can still behave in a respectful manner.
That was a classless act. I hope you at least had the lights out while she was pressed against the window.Haha. Sorry about the confusion. But I was just passing along a report from a buddy. You should see some of his hundreds of porn vids with these girls. Tie them up, gags them, and shoves his feet in their mouths. But strangely, sex is done with a condom on. So I wonder who is the pot and who is the kettle?
On a related note, a big new beerbar just opened on Soi 8 in the old Via Vai Italian restaurant location across from Monsoon called Rumour's Soi 8. Bar, pool, girls.
I think Soi 8 is slowly turning into a mini Soi Nana/Soi 4 bar area. But just beerbars, no go-go bars. Yet.Once again, More glorification than actuality. My buddy sent me a pic last night. Dead and empty. Bars and entertainment venues are still illegal and are just traps. In Bangkok, it's alcohol only up to 9 pm in SHA certified restaurants. There is still a ban on unapproved social gatherings, especially around alcohol.
Sky Mountain in Pattaya was just raided again for the 4th time. Like he mentioned previously. The if the police hasn't shut them down and it keeps happening, those owners are all a part of the game. And the patrons are the sacrificial lamb.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2206683/city-hall-alcohol-in-restaurants-only-until-9pm
Corrected again.
Whoever wrote, "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1."
Which is misinformation. Luckily, I don't mind setting people straight. Bars and entertainment venues HAVE NOT been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database. So there is no "were legally permitted" thing as was written.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2210707/tat-establishes-on-site-sha-clinic
Exactly like the article reads. Plus, on Sunday I was eating at Burger King next to Nana and met an inspector / cop preparing for inspection / raid. I pretended to be a newly arrived tourist and asked him about the rules. He said exactly what I wrote above. I asked him for recommendations to where to hang out and he told me to avoid places that DO NOT have the certificates and look like bars with fly by night BBQ pits outside. And he noted the ones on Soi 7. He said they know everything that goes on. So for expats in BKK who think they are some covert secret society with all this hidden information, that's funny as heck.
In order for the police to collect tea money or raid money, the owners of these shady businesses have to be able to accumulate money in the first place. This is how the war on drugs work and so does the world of corruption. So they let the sales go on until it's time to collect and pay up. And yes, the entire Sukhumvit are their eyes and ears from the viagra and sex toys vendors, beggars, fruit stands, motors taxis and much much more. It's an entire network. So please, don't think by not discussing open bars on sex forum, you are somehow one step ahead of the police here in Thailand and doing everybody a favor. What did people think happened when Lisa on the Beach Bar got raided in Pattaya? That bar was located almost next to the police station. Foreigners got arrested and fined and then the bar reopened up the next night. Mean to tell me owners didn't know and weren't involved? They create this false blanket of security as if they got some magic stick to allow them to break the rules.
So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm. Soi Nana was not much better. Looks that those pics. I am not sure why anybody would write that. Just think about it. It's a group of beer bars with no SHA certificates, no masks, illegally operating. So you are telling me these super hot girls that used to work in Gogo bars and Thermae are suddenly desperate enough to work out of these bar bars? The hotter ones are usually the smarter ones who know how to take care of themselves and their looks. Did they get dumb and stupid all of the sudden to risk working in illegal bars which can be raided at anytime? And outside Nana Plaza was not much better. Never once have I ever saw any talent worth getting from Stumble Inn or Morning Night in any of my trips to Thailand. Fun to me is not sitting and staring at the empty streets with scattered ladyboys, with a warm beer paid for the seat.
And if you have to pay 500 baht barfine to a girl you already know, during these low and slow times, then you have a problem. Especially, if you already had BBFS and GFE with her before. I have been in Thailand 20 months now. And as a tourist, no an expat or remote worker. I have not paid a barfine, even when everything was opened. Whether the girl was a new one or an old flame or a repeat. Who the heck pays for a barfine, when there is no alcohol sales after 9 pm? Seems like glorification at its best. Maybe it was all written in jest.
I even sat down and bought a 100 baht beer at the center bar when you walked in. The best looking thing was in that entire group of beer bars was a manager or PR girl just as you walk in. When I said best, I was am very nice. I spent about 15 minutes allowing her to grope my dick inside my shorts for a drink before I left. Funny thing is I saw her greet another customer and touches his face with the same hand. Nasty. On another night, there was a thin girl with dark hair, almost bob like haircut, wearing small shorts who tried to pull me in for drinks. She was walking on Soi 7 with another girl. We walked in together to those set of beer bars and I immediately wanted to walk out because it was dead. She was like "I go with you. " And so she did. No barfine and 1000ST. She was about the only decent thing I've seen in Soi 7, the entire 45 days I've been here. I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed, so I tipped her 50 baht. But yeah, there is still better talent to be found with incalls and outcalls for 1500. See the pic pf what the cat dragged in a few days ago for 1500. Used the open window on her as well.The reason I concluded your friend "missed it. It happens," based on the reports of his you posted originally is because it really was easy at the time of his first report to miss that collection of a dozen or so bars on Soi 7 unless you turn left off of Soi 7 and actually walk down that little passage between Sukhumvit Road and Beer Garden, particularly when there might have been only 1-2 bars with any girls working in them ON Soi 7 at the time of his first report. Which your friend's first report did not say he did. Instead, he said something about bars with curtains and people behind them (whatever that was) and then he checked out Beer Garden and left. I have been with punters who were intent on checking out Beer Garden on Soi 7 and walked right past that little passage without a clue there was a collection of bars, often packed with girls and customers, right after the passage makes a small right turn.
That's why I replied to that original report and asked for more details about those supposed bars with "curtains and people behind them." But neither you nor your friend replied, which further supported my assumption that he had no idea what else to say about some supposed bars like that and that "he missed it."
In fact, it was probably because the bars down that little passage were not easily visible to the casual passerby that they have been open and hosting girls pretty much since the major closures began months and months ago without being raided.
Yes, official badge or not, like virtually every beer bar on Soi Nana/Soi 4 now, even they can pretend to be "restaurants" instead of strictly bars and serve alcohol without much worry of being raided as late as 9PM since November 1. If anything, they can jump into the pretense even faster if ever necessary since the bulk of them down that little passage is relatively "hidden." But even Random Bar, the biggest one right on Soi 7 has been openly serving booze, providing live entertainment and hosting dozens of girls on their busiest nights since November 1, three days before your friend said he only walked "towards" Soi 7 to see what girls were hanging out on Sukhumvit Road and not "down" Soi 7.
So you stopped by those bars on Wednesday or Thursday night and apparently still saw about 50 girls there. Ok. That's still quite a bit more girls than your friend ever suggested were there when all he reported on were some weird bars with "curtains and people behind them." Nobody said anything about "super hot" girls, btw. Or "the hottest girls ever', the "hottest girls who worked in Thermae during normal times" or anything of the kind. Still, you and your friend should have been there last Friday and Saturday night. Looks like you both have "missed it" up to now.
And if you have to pay 500 baht barfine to a girl you already know, during these low and slow times, then you have a problem. Especially, if you already had BBFS and GFE with her before. I have been in Thailand 20 months now. And as a tourist, no an expat or remote worker. I have not paid a barfine, even when everything was opened. Whether the girl was a new one or an old flame or a repeat. Who the heck pays for a barfine, when there is no alcohol sales after 9 pm? Seems like glorification at its best. Maybe it was all written in jest.Well, you see here's the deal with that. First, particularly as an expat living here, I am interested in supporting the bars, keeping them open to attract more and better girls to the area at all times. If there was ever a time not to screw the bar out of whatever reasonable money they could rake in by opening their doors and, yes, even taking the kind of chances you feel they are taking by doing so and hosting tons more girls over time, this is it.
Second, I know some of these girls want to be seen by the bar owners and the other girls getting the barfine from a customer and walking out with him. It is a feather in their cap, especially if the guy might be one the other girls would very much prefer walking out with instead of sitting with the lonely, broken down, fat, old alcoholics your friend characterized as the primary customers for these venues. It demonstrates to the bar owners what kind of customer the girl can get and ought to be brought to or pointed out to the customer as often as possible rather than the alternative. Some girls have actually told me that was the reason. Maybe you have never been a factor in that kind of bargirl tactic. 500 baht is no big deal for me to give them for that feather in their cap "gift."
How important can it be to them? I have had bar girls finally drop their already negotiated down asking price by the cost of the barfine so I will take them out right now instead of waiting for them to show up at my room after their bar closes. So it's either pay the 500 baht to the bar now or pay it to her directly later. I suspect that was the case here too. And I like to be seen by other girls in a bar walking out with cute young girls seemingly absolutely thrilled about it and clinging to me like their highschool sweetheart. My experience has been it greatly improves the chances of them wanting to replace her next time and on whatever DFK, Shaved Pussy, BBFS+CIP and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow terms I state.
Third, now that the girl in question got her jollies by me paying the 500 baht barfine and walking out of the bar with her, she has contacted me almost every day asking to see me anytime, no barfine.
Fourth, I don't care if the bar closes at 2AM, 11PM or 9PM, my days of "saving" the piddling cost of a barfine and waiting dutifully in my room or wherever like a sick puppy for a girl I want to fuck to leave the bar, leave her friends, skip the communal eating or drinking after hours (or not) and fucking her on HER time schedule are over. I've been here long enough and gotten "no barfine" or even "free" after hours fucks from the girls here often enough to know the best Real Sex for me will not be happening after the girl has gotten all the Ladydrinks she can put into her body until the bar closes and the customers leave, when she is tired, sleepy, possibly fucked out from 1-2 Short Times already and might pass out in someone else's bed in a drunken stupor and not show up at all.
Been there, done that. I can afford the 500 baht and get her at her prime at a time of the evening when she is actually "working" for the money, not "sleeping" for it and precisely the hour I want to fuck her on MY schedule.
Member #4753
11-12-21, 05:36
How EihTooms described Soi 7 is quite accurate. The bars form a horseshow pattern where you enter off soi 7 to the left and there are many more bars etc along sub sois and eventually they lead back out into Soi 7 again. If you did not enter you would not notice that there is quite a lot of bars and women in there.
Since November 1 when quasi restaurants / bars, can serve alcohol again there has been a pick up in activity. Albiet rather muted. Mostly expats getting out for a drink again joined by a few 1000 arrivals. So the numbers are still thin on the ground and activity is very patchy. Some places seem good 1 night and the next night dead again or limping along again.
I went out to Soi 7 one night and it was pumping, then the next night dead. This was a few days after November 1, so I guess many more expats were coming out.
Soi 11 was probably the area that the curtain bars were referred to. There is a bunch of outside eateries half way up Soi 11 on the left which now have 2 rows of curtains out the front of each little row of establishments. There is probably 6 or so in a row. Once you pull back 1 curtain, then enter the second curtain it is just like a normal bar pre covid. These bars have been operating for the last few months and have been quite busy. There has been working girls in there but with their boyfriend rather than having large numbers of free girls on the hunt. I am sure some were available though. The police are always hanging around so are well aware of what is happening and surely directly the brown paper bags to the correct people higher up.
Soi 4 has been open since Nov 01. It is building but without Nana open missing its biggest draw the 20 or so establishments open never seem to be more than 1/3 full at the moment. It is worth a wander through.
Soi 8 has a few new restaurants / bars. Some nights it is quite lively but still nothing special. It is worth dropping by when in lower sukhumwit.
Summary: I have been surprised how some activity has sprung up relatively quickly. It is a mere shadow of pre covid, but way better than seeing these places dark and completely shuttered. If there is not another major covid outbreak these places might look half decent after Christmas. At the moment I would not jump on a plane to come here, but Jan or Feb it might be worth it.
How EihTooms described Soi 7 is quite accurate. The bars form a horseshow pattern where you enter off soi 7 to the left and there are many more bars etc along sub sois and eventually they lead back out into Soi 7 again. If you did not enter you would not notice that there is quite a lot of bars and women in there.
Since November 1 when quasi restaurants / bars, can serve alcohol again there has been a pick up in activity. Albiet rather muted. Mostly expats getting out for a drink again joined by a few 1000 arrivals. So the numbers are still thin on the ground and activity is very patchy. Some places seem good 1 night and the next night dead again or limping along again.
I went out to Soi 7 one night and it was pumping, then the next night dead. This was a few days after November 1, so I guess many more expats were coming out.
Soi 11 was probably the area that the curtain bars were referred to. There is a bunch of outside eateries half way up Soi 11 on the left which now have 2 rows of curtains out the front of each little row of establishments. There is probably 6 or so in a row. Once you pull back 1 curtain, then enter the second curtain it is just like a normal bar pre covid. These bars have been operating for the last few months and have been quite busy. There has been working girls in there but with their boyfriend rather than having large numbers of free girls on the hunt. I am sure some were available though. The police are always hanging around so are well aware of what is happening and surely directly the brown paper bags to the correct people higher up.
Soi 4 has been open since Nov 01. It is building but without Nana open missing its biggest draw the 20 or so establishments open never seem to be more than 1/3 full at the moment. It is worth a wander through.
Soi 8 has a few new restaurants / bars. Some nights it is quite lively but still nothing special. It is worth dropping by when in lower sukhumwit.
Summary: I have been surprised how some activity has sprung up relatively quickly. It is a mere shadow of pre covid, but way better than seeing these places dark and completely shuttered. If there is not another major covid outbreak these places might look half decent after Christmas. At the moment I would not jump on a plane to come here, but Jan or Feb it might be worth it.Yes I thought the fellow who wrote that report got the "curtain" bars on Soi 11 confused with what existed on Soi 7 too. But he never responded to my reply and request for clarification about it. So who knows.
I think it is worth pointing out that curtains to "hide" the drinking activity in Soi 11 bars or the way the little passage off Soi 7 is naturally shaped to "hide" the drinking activity back there has nothing to do with preventing the police or boys in brown from knowing all about it. They know all about it.
It has everything to do with preventing it from being so blatantly obvious to even the casual passerby that it makes the authorities in charge look bad for not doing something about it or clearly complicit and supportive of the activity.
Curtains on a well traveled soi like Soi 11 and the little bend down that passage on Soi 7 provide at least some "buffer of deniability" on the issue.
Member #4753
11-12-21, 09:51
The CCSA held a general meeting chaired by PM Prayut today The official opening of Bars and nightlife venues have been pushed to January 15,2022.
There was rumours it would be November 15, then December 1. Unfortunately opening enterntainment venues does not look likely this year.
Having said this, now that the border is open, there will be more ladies returning to Bangkok. I think the venues to hook up will be very fluid IE will change daily or weekly.
So who is confused again?
1. he reported first. "As for the rest of Soi 4, I only walked to Hillary 2, which was open, a bit busy, with some live music and lots of people, but not my cup of tea. I never hung out there even in when Bangkok was at its best. The talent just isn't there. It's like a has been type of atmosphere with bad karaoke, filled with fake laughter. Just too weird for me."
You responded after. "he also never mentioned anything about Hillary 2 on Soi Nana / Soi 4 being open at the time of his first report, one of the largest beer bars on that soi offering food, drink, pool, girls."
(Hiliary 2 was clearly written).
2. he reported first. "There are a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi (referring to Biergarten which is 7), just to the left as you make your way in. But once again, the talent level was simply yuck. Not a very happening place to be. It's the same feeling you get the you walk into a GoGo bar, and there are a bunch of fuglies trying to dance on stage, the mamasan comes and says "you can choose," and you just want to leave, but too embarrassed for them (not you). Yeah, it's like that."
You responded after. "tell him to walk "down" Soi 7 a short distance some evening and make a left turn into the collection of a dozen or so bars often packed with girls, many Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong go-go girls as well as Thermae girls (from normal times) looking for customers and ready to party."
(Sure sounds like the same Soi here, but different beer goggles).
3. he reported first. "So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm."
You responded after. "So you stopped by those bars on Wednesday or Thursday night and apparently still saw about 50 girls there."
(Saturday was clearly written).
4. You reported first. "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1. "
He responded after. "Bars and entertainment venues have not been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database."
(The word legally should have never been used. Can get people in trouble. Nothing is legal about these police traps).
5. You reported first. "Today I was told by one of my go-go girl favorites that some Nana Plaza go-go bars will re-open on November 16. I have not heard anything about Soi Cowboy go-go bars or Patpong go-go bars specifically but I assume if they can re-open in Nana Plaza they can re-open anywhere in the city."
Richard Barrow has reported after. "Jan 15th at the earliest."
(Who listens to Gogo bar girls about legal shit anyways?
So I have to ask once more, are you sure you are okay? Just a wellness check pal. And now to my buddy's final report below.
.. But even Random Bar, the biggest one right on Soi 7 has been openly serving booze, providing live entertainment and hosting dozens of girls on their busiest nights since November 1... I find it very odd how there is no mention of ladyboys working at these horseshoe cluster of beer bars on Soi 7 and at Random. Spot them the first time I walked in. There are a shit load and they are mixed in with the girls. There is even a silly pole stage with one or two dancers. Funny how the expats who are supposed to be reporting, leave it out about the ladyboys. Wonder why? And no the do not openly serve booze. Few bottles liquor are locked in a silver cooler and everything else like mixers, are in one of those blue coolers you see with the beach chair vendors. Cups are opaque large plastic ones used at kids birthday parties. The bill handwritten doesn't specify alcohol, so yes it's all down low, not in the open. The venues know they are breaking the law. There is a very talented lesbo tom who sings in the mic at Random. She gets pissed when I try to pinch her tits. Talent is there in her voice though.
To his credit, the talent at these Soi 7 beer bars seems to be getting slightly better than before, but still only a handful I would mess with. I took another one just last night. She was young, taller, skinny, long hair, dyed with two different colors right and left (light and dark). No barfine needed. I did buy her a drink. These girls told me they don't work for the bar. They can come and go as they please. The bars don't have any money to pay a guaranteed salary. So if anybody paid a barfine, they probably were silly enough to pay barfines at Thermae as well. Unless they were just joking and telling a fantastic story with more holes than Swiss cheese. They are desperate freelancers. 1000 baht 1 hour for her with one leg raised on the window sill, fucking her from behind, while pinching the shit out of her cllt, with her titties pressed against the glass. She screamed pretty loud when my thumb went into her ass. I think some might have noticed, but who cares. Wonder why girls forget where your fingers have been when you shove them in their mouths? Luckily it was close to 9 and not many people walking on the BTS skywalk. Some but not many, I was kinda busy. You can look at porn with no problem, but want to cry about voyeurism. Funny. One more time. There is no barfine because all entertainment venues are supposed to be closed.
Explorer8939
11-12-21, 13:36
The CCSA held a general meeting chaired by PM Prayut today The official opening of Bars and nightlife venues have been pushed to January 15,2022.
There was rumours it would be November 15, then December 1. Unfortunately opening enterntainment venues does not look likely this year.
Having said this, now that the border is open, there will be more ladies returning to Bangkok. I think the venues to hook up will be very fluid IE will change daily or weekly.To be clear, January is a "No Earlier Then" date, not a firm opening date.
So who is confused again?
1. he reported first. "As for the rest of Soi 4, I only walked to Hillary 2, which was open, a bit busy, with some live music and lots of people, but not my cup of tea. I never hung out there even in when Bangkok was at its best. The talent just isn't there. It's like a has been type of atmosphere with bad karaoke, filled with fake laughter. Just too weird for me."
You responded after. "he also never mentioned anything about Hillary 2 on Soi Nana / Soi 4 being open at the time of his first report, one of the largest beer bars on that soi offering food, drink, pool, girls."
(Hiliary 2 was clearly written).
2. he reported first. "There are a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi (referring to Biergarten which is 7), just to the left as you make your way in. But once again, the talent level was simply yuck. Not a very happening place to be. It's the same feeling you get the you walk into a GoGo bar, and there are a bunch of fuglies trying to dance on stage, the mamasan comes and says "you can choose," and you just want to leave, but too embarrassed for them (not you). Yeah, it's like that."
You responded after. "tell him to walk "down" Soi 7 a short distance some evening and make a left turn into the collection of a dozen or so bars often packed with girls, many Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong go-go girls as well as Thermae girls (from normal times) looking for customers and ready to party."
(Sure sounds like the same Soi here, but different beer goggles).
3. he reported first. "So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm."
You responded after. "So you stopped by those bars on Wednesday or Thursday night and apparently still saw about 50 girls there."
(Saturday was clearly written).
4. You reported first. "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1. "
He responded after. "Bars and entertainment venues have not been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database."
(The word legally should have never been used. Can get people in trouble. Nothing is legal about these police traps).
5. You reported first. "Today I was told by one of my go-go girl favorites that some Nana Plaza go-go bars will re-open on November 16. I have not heard anything about Soi Cowboy go-go bars or Patpong go-go bars specifically but I assume if they can re-open in Nana Plaza they can re-open anywhere in the city."
Richard Barrow has reported after. "Jan 15th at the earliest."
(Who listens to Gogo bar girls about legal shit anyways?
So I have to ask once more, are you sure you are okay? Just a wellness check pal. And now to my buddy's final report below.
I find it very odd how there is no mention of ladyboys working at these horseshoe cluster of beer bars on Soi 7 and at Random. Spot them the first time I walked in. There are a shit load and they are mixed in with the girls. There is even a silly pole stage with one or two dancers. Funny how the expats who are supposed to be reporting, leave it out about the ladyboys. Wonder why? And no the do not openly serve booze. Few bottles liquor are locked in a silver cooler and everything else like mixers, are in one of those blue coolers you see with the beach chair vendors. Cups are opaque large plastic ones used at kids birthday parties. The bill handwritten doesn't specify alcohol, so yes it's all down low, not in the open. The venues know they are breaking the law. There is a very talented lesbo tom who sings in the mic at Random. She gets pissed when I try to pinch her tits. Talent is there in her voice though.
To his credit, the talent at these Soi 7 beer bars seems to be getting slightly better than before, but still only a handful I would mess with. I took another one just last night. She was young, taller, skinny, long hair, dyed with two different colors right and left (light and dark). No barfine needed. I did buy her a drink. These girls told me they don't work for the bar. They can come and go as they please. The bars don't have any money to pay a guaranteed salary. So if anybody paid a barfine, they probably were silly enough to pay barfines at Thermae as well. Unless they were just joking and telling a fantastic story with more holes than Swiss cheese. They are desperate freelancers. 1000 baht 1 hour for her with one leg raised on the window sill, fucking her from behind, while pinching the shit out of her cllt, with her titties pressed against the glass. She screamed pretty loud when my thumb went into her ass. I think some might have noticed, but who cares. Wonder why girls forget where your fingers have been when you shove them in their mouths? Luckily it was close to 9 and not many people walking on the BTS skywalk. Some but not many, I was kinda busy. You can look at porn with no problem, but want to cry about voyeurism. Funny. One more time. There is no barfine because all entertainment venues are supposed to be closed.Oh, so he did mention that Hillary 2 was open but that he "only walkied to" it. My bad. Apparently he did not "hang out there" because during normal times it was not his cup of tea. Well, at least it was a useful report that one can "walk" there, look inside but not necessarily "hang out" there.
Sorry, but the way he described bars with curtains and people behind them in that first report is simply nothing like what would have been the case if he had turned left off Soi 7 and walked down that passage (not "just to the left" on Soi 7). As I said, there are a couple of empty cubicles with the entrances covered entirely by mesh curtains "just to the left" as you walk in Soi 7. But that is not where the bulk of those Soi 7 collection of bars is. You have to turn left and walk down that passage.
You really only saw about 50 girls and about 20 customers in those Soi 7 bars last Saturday night? My god, what time of night was that? 5pm? Maybe that's why it did not register with me that you were talking about Saturday night and not a much quieter night. There were easily 200+ girls in those Soi 7 bars that Saturday night and maybe 100+ customers.
They were packed with girls again tonight, Friday night. Easily 200+ at 8pm, same as last Friday and Saturday nights. I would say certainly plenty of options between "super hot girls" you seemed to mistakenly think I reported and "yuck" girls your friend might have only seen in the couple of bars ON Soi 7 that time.
Random Bar was so busy and it took the very fuckable young girl who grabbed me as I was heading back out to Soi 7 through that passage so long to get her and me a drink she said forget it, just take me to your room for ST. No LD, no barfine, no unpleasant surprises in my room. Another displaced go-go dancer in waiting. Very satisfyiing DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP Real Sex. No hurry from about 8:30pm until Midnight, 1,500 + 200 for taxi.
Nov. 1 was a kind of "Grand Re-Opening" date for most of the beer bars on Soi 4, Soi 7, Soi 8 and Soi 11. I notice tonight the Soi 11 bars did not even bother with the curtains. The boys in brown were definitely present and accounted for on Soi 7 right next to Random Bar.
Apparently, whoever it is that makes the determination that a venue in the district can be open legally until a certain hour of the night has done so for all those bars. So far.
Oh, and did you miss the Subject Title for my post regarding November 16? About it only being a Rumor, not a News Report from a go-go dancer that go-go bars might reopen then? It was highlighted in black at the very top of the post as usual. If you really didn't see it or my subsequent characterization of it as a Rumor in at least one other post and not as a News Report from a go-go dancer, you might look into that wellness check you mentioned.
Btw, wasn't December 1st a possible target date for some of these things in "real" news sources referenced and posted by a few members here? Guess those "real" news sources got it about as right as a Rumor from a go-go dancer.
Pointing out that Ladyboys can be in the mix on the street, in beer bars, online, the dating sites, massage shops, even in many go-go bars, everywhere in Thailand, would scarcely be something of a big news item. How many months have you been here again? Actually, the availability of Ladyboys isn't a topic particularly encouraged on this site. But if you are looking for some, they are practically everywhere.
For everyone else, Buyer Beware at all times.
That is low, very low. Just because some girls don't look pretty and have to sell their body doesn't mean they are to be made fun of or taken advantage of.
You can still behave in a respectful manner. If he was a post-op Ladyboy, he might have been more of the aggressor in that scenario than his customer realized.
ElMexicant
11-13-21, 04:32
So if anybody paid a barfine, they probably were silly enough to pay barfines at Thermae as well. Unless they were just joking and telling a fantastic story with more holes than Swiss cheese. Best comment of the month. Bar fines at Thermae? WTH.
Random Bar was so busy...
Buyer Beware at all times.I'm going to confirm that ET's reports are accurate as well. Soi 7 would be the place where I'd head to (for those who liked the Gogo scenes at Nana).
Although, personally I wouldn't be caught in the area after 9 pm; even if the brown uniform guys have been paid off pretty well. Why risk it?
I'm going to confirm that ET's reports are accurate as well. Soi 7 would be the place where I'd head to (for those who liked the Gogo scenes at Nana).
Although, personally I wouldn't be caught in the area after 9 pm; even if the brown uniform guys have been paid off pretty well. Why risk it?You would be right to be wary about that as would any of us. However, I don't think the current issue is with customers drinking alcohol in these bars. Serving alcohol is definitely an issue and there are reports of bar staff being arrested for that. But if the bar is serving drinks in paper cups and mugs, despite the fact that it is an "open secret" that they are serving alcohol in some if not most of them, it is a stretch to say the police would round up and arrest every patron in a place where alcohol was being served to some patrons that way. In my case, all I would likely have in front of me is a club soda or coke in one of those cups. Everyone sitting in a bone fide restaurant in Bangkok on any day or night of the week could be rounded up and arrested for that even if some of them had no beverage at all on their table and had no idea some people at other tables had booze in their cups.
It could be the authorities in that jurisdiction are willing to accept the strained but workable pretense that some of those places are not exactly "entertainment venues or pubs" or "restaurants" but are legally allowed to be open and operate in the same way a storefront venue or a street cart serves coffee, tea, juice, water and sodas. In that way, they could be open legally well before the official old December 1st or new mid-January 2022 date for "entertainment venues and pubs", but not legally allowed to serve alcohol. Therefore it is the people serving the alcohol to some customers who are at risk, not the patrons.
Instead, it appears issues that can trigger a full bar round up are things like "inadequate ventilation and congestion" and not about some customers drinking alcohol that has been served to them.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2214487/reopening-delayed-for-nightclubs-bars
Dr Taweesilp said on Friday the Covid task force remained worried that the reopening of night entertainment businesses could lead to more infections if no appropriate measures had been in place. Inadequate ventilation and congestions were among its key concerns, he added.
https://aseannow.com/topic/1237010-61-people-arrested-after-police-raid-bar-on-sukhumvit-soi-23/
Thong Lor Police arrested 61 people after carrying out a raid at a bar on Sukhumvit Soi 23.
Police said they received a tip off that alcohol was being served on the 2nd floor of the bar.
Upon visiting the premises, police said that as well as finding alcohol being served, many people were dancing, increasing the risk of spreading COVID-19.
Police said they found receipts which confirmed the sale of alcohol.
Police said they arrested 61 people in total, 26 men and 35 women, all of whom were charged with violating the emergency decree and Communicable Diseases Act.
The bar's owner was also charged with serving alcohol.
Those arrested were taken to Thong Lor Police Station for processing.
When I saw the boys in brown standing around right outside the passage off Soi 7 next to Random Bar last night about 8PM it is very likely they were waiting to see just how crowded and busy the place was going to get. I can't see how poor ventilation would be an issue there. But over crowding sure can be an issue on their busiest nights. Of course, it wouldn't be issue if only 50 girls and 20 customers showed up at 5PM, 8:15PM, 9PM or any other time. But when it is as crowded and busy as I have seen it on Friday and Saturday nights over the past several weeks, I suppose it is very possible the authorities would have to do something about it. And I certainly be wrong about it, but I'm guessing in those cases they wouldn't just start rounding up and arresting everyone before they at least told the bar owners to close down and start clearing people out first.
I also suspect just the sudden appearance of a few boys in brown is enough to thin out the crowd at bit at a moment's notice.
Explorer8939
11-13-21, 06:25
When police raid an illegal bar, typically everyone gets hauled down to the station, even those not drinking alcohol.
Member #4753
11-13-21, 06:54
I do notice the police turn up at soi 11 and soi 7 around 9 or 10 on most nights. I guess they don't want the places to just go nuts and completely disregard the rules with drinking into the morning. A controlled braking of the rules seems to be in place.
Ironically when there was a curfew in Bangkok of 9 pm, the little curtain "restaurants" on soi 11 still operated after 9 pm. I was home by that time but could see patrons still thinning out to say 10 pm on most nights. There were even taxis and motobike taxis lined up to take the patrons home.
The last 30 days of the 9 pm curfew was definitely a "soft curfew" as opposed to the lock them up on the spot first curfews in 2020.
In thailand there are rules, but many are mere guidelines controlled but each area or province. Unless you come accross the wrong cop or really f**k up.
Oops
Haha. Sorry about the confusion. But I was just passing along a report from a buddy. You should see some of his hundreds of porn vids with these girls. Tie them up, gags them, and shoves his feet in their mouths. But strangely, sex is done with a condom on. So I wonder who is the pot and who is the kettle?
...Lol. See, some of this is so confused and confusing it isn't easy to tell if you are posting any report from your own experiences or if they have all been from your buddy. Wouldn't it be easier for him to simply think up a nic of his own, sign in and post these reports himself?
Yes, I admit I forgot that either he or you said "last Saturday night" instead of "last night" in my reply to a report before. But his or your clarification that he actually might have turned left and walked down that passage on the previous Saturday night came several days later. And he also said he took a girl from there "another" night or time. So was that the Wednesday or Thursday I misunderstood it to be or does that one go all the way back his first walk by when he assessed the talent to be "yuck"?
Which one of you was the one who claimed to be "in Thailand 20 months now" yet are only recently discovering there are many Ladyboys just about everywhere in the red light districts? That and the claim that there were only about 50 girls and 20 customers combined in the Soi 7 collection of bars at 8:15 last Saturday night (are you sure it wasn't Sunday or more like 5PM?) was at least worth asking for a follow-up confirmation in case they were typos. It's possible. I do it all the time. I think many of us are typing these out with our thumbs on a narrow smartphone keyboard.
And I gotta' ask; Are those girls he has paid, fucked and video recorded hundreds of times so he and you can relive the glory of it all for years to come the "yuck" girls or are they the top of the line super hot girls he or you specializes in taking who would rarely be desperate enough to accept 1,200 - 1,500 baht anyway but apparently do so in exchange for knowingly or unknowingly being video recorded bound and gagged with his feet shoved in their mouths before or after he fucks them with a condom?
Gets his feet in there around the gag, does he? And if they refuse to DFK him after that it is going to be one of the weirdest and most perplexing revelations yet.
Inquiring minds want to know in order to less our confusion (wink).
I keep waiting to hear someone mention it on here but I have some on the ground reporting that the owner of Lolita's committed suicide within the last week. Don't know any other details, or even if the owner is Thai or Farang but figure I would post it to see if this can be confirmed. Obviously, they have been closed for quite a while and the likelihood of their opening even on the latest proposed Jan 15th date remains in doubt.
Francesco24
11-14-21, 15:17
Random Bar was so busy and it took the very fuckable young girl who grabbed me as I was heading back out to Soi 7 through that passage so long to get her and me a drink she said forget it, just take me to your room for ST. No LD, no barfine, no unpleasant surprises in my room. Another displaced go-go dancer in waiting. Very satisfyiing DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP Real Sex. No hurry from about 8:30pm until Midnight, 1,500 + 200 for taxi.Can share her Line? I was never quoted less than 2 k there LOL.
Can share her Line? I was never quoted less than 2 k there LOL.This girl didn't quote or mention any rate to me before, during or after the session. So I suppose some guys here would consider me to be a chump for giving her any money at all on her way out. But I put 1,500 on the table next to her purse with a couple of 100 baht notes folded next to it while she was taking her post-sex shower and she seemed fine with it. Big hug and kiss goodbye at the door and sweet Line messages from her afterwards.
When they quote 2,000 do you counter with less and see if they are ok to split the difference?
Personally, if the girl initiates a quote upfront that is at least within the realm of realistic if she's going to rock my world in the room, I tend not to counter with a lower amount or reject her wish amount. I immediately shift the topic to what I want her to do if I paid this wish amount quote of hers; "Sweetheart, I would be happy to give you 3,000 if you stay Long Time (all night until morning), we kiss with our tongues gently touching, your pussy is shaved, no hair, we kiss and lick each other here and here and then we boom boom without a condom (fill in the blanks with whatever does it for you)."
She might totally agree with a smile right away, in which case I am fine with the deal too assuming I really want to fuck this one tonight and it is my preferred time of the evening to walk hand in hand into paradise with the young lady around 9-10 pm with no anticipation that there will be another word spoken about can or can't on those issues.
But if she balks on any of it that's when my lower counter offers begin. Hell, it might go down from 3,000 for whatever she thought she could pawn off as enough sexual activity for the money to a Short Time with DFK and BBBJ+CIM for 1,000 or 1,500 if it's no hurry and she Swallows like a good girl instead of spitting it out like a grizzled old granny farmer.
In the above particular group of requests, Long Time/All Night is often the first to go, she either can't or won't do LT, and that's fine with me. In fact, I always request it even though it really isn't too important to me that they stay to sleep all night just to give them a bargaining chip to play and feel like they won something. But the amount I would agree to will have dropped by 1,000 or more as well.
There is nothing chiseled in stone about this for me. It's just that I have always felt whatever serious problems there too often are or can be with the Thai P4P scene, the "cost" of it isn't one of them. But the quality of the service you get for your time and money is.
That's why I don't see negotiating down from 3,000 baht to 1,000 baht as any victory at all unless it is made clear upfront what I'm going to get for that 1,000 baht. Therefore, my first response or counter for any baht amount quote initiated by a girl here is not a lower baht amount. At that point the baht amount is irrelevant, it has no meaning. X amount "for what?"
No, my first response is a stated minimum level of service I'd need to get in order to so much as consider giving her anything close to that quote or no deal, thank you sweetheart, nice meeting you, bye and take care.
Eequalsmc2
11-15-21, 11:15
Can share her Line? I was never quoted less than 2 k there LOL.What is it about asking to share her Line, BKK is like a brothel. If you can't find a attractive girls for a reasonable price then the problem is you. Have you considered that he got a good price because he knows how to haggle respectfully and your don't. Have you considered that women might generally find him more attractive than they find you. You getting her Line doesn't remove the problem with you not being able to get a good price, that problem being you.
Banana Boi
11-15-21, 23:42
Not sure if this is really in effect or is this someone playing an April Fool's joke on me in November.
In order to get in to Khaosan Road you must be fully vaccinated. Check. If your vaccine is over 6 months old you will pay 100 baht to take a swab test and wait there for the test results before you can enter Khaosan Road. HUH? WHAT? If you test positive for COVID you go directly to the hospital for I assume 10 days quarantine by an ambulance waiting on site to take you. WORTH THE RISK! NOT! Sure sounds like they really want to be rid of the "non-wealthy" backpackers who go to KSR.
"If foreigners have been vaccinated six months ago they will have to take a 100 baht swab test and wait. An ambulance is on hand to take them away if they turn out to be positive. ".
Member #4753
11-16-21, 01:06
Not sure if this is really in effect or is this someone playing an April Fool's joke on me in November.
In order to get in to Khaosan Road you must be fully vaccinated. Check. If your vaccine is over 6 months old you will pay 100 baht to take a swab test and wait there for the test results before you can enter Khaosan Road. HUH? WHAT? If you test positive for COVID you go directly to the hospital for I assume 10 days quarantine by an ambulance waiting on site to take you. WORTH THE RISK! NOT! Sure sounds like they really want to be rid of the "non-wealthy" backpackers who go to KSR.
"If foreigners have been vaccinated six months ago they will have to take a 100 baht swab test and wait. An ambulance is on hand to take them away if they turn out to be positive. ".It is definitely setup like what is written above. I have not been there yet but I know a couple of girls that went there and they showed their Thai vax certificates and went right in. Apparently once inside the bars have been redone to qualify as restaurants and it is party central just like pre covid. Alcohol is flowing freely and social distancing etc all but ignored. The alcohol gets turned off officially at 9 pm but drinks are still served for an extra hour or so in thinly disguised cups or can cokes etc.
It is definitely setup like what is written above. I have not been there yet but I know a couple of girls that went there and they showed their Thai vax certificates and went right in. Apparently once inside the bars have been redone to qualify as restaurants and it is party central just like pre covid. Alcohol is flowing freely and social distancing etc all but ignored. The alcohol gets turned off officially at 9 pm but drinks are still served for an extra hour or so in thinly disguised cups or can cokes etc.I haven't been there myself since the November 1 or whenever "re-opening" yet either but a farang friend and his Thai girlfriend went there a few nights ago and said they were required to scan a QR code on their phone, show proof of vaccine, which in their case would have been several months old, and got some kind of ink stamp on their arm apparently to show at every bar. Unlike me, they are drinkers but said not many places were open and it was pretty dead.
But, as we have learned, crowd levels, requirements for bar openings and entry can change by the night or hour in the various Bangkok jurisdictions.
About 2 weeks ago a couple of Sukhumvit Soi 4 bars required customers to scan a QR code on their phone and show their proof of vaccination certificate in order to enter. That lasted 1 night before it was dropped.
Not sure if this is really in effect or is this someone playing an April Fool's joke on me in November.
In order to get in to Khaosan Road you must be fully vaccinated. Check. If your vaccine is over 6 months old you will pay 100 baht to take a swab test and wait there for the test results before you can enter Khaosan Road. HUH? WHAT? If you test positive for COVID you go directly to the hospital for I assume 10 days quarantine by an ambulance waiting on site to take you. WORTH THE RISK! NOT! Sure sounds like they really want to be rid of the "non-wealthy" backpackers who go to KSR..There are basically no backpackers right now LOL. KSR has been trending Thai for years and now is much more of a Thai hangout spot than one for farang.
Totally agree not worth the risk if you're farang though, even if its a 1/1000 chance that you have covid and are symptomatic that 2 week mandatory hospital stay will cost you.
NicFrenchy
11-16-21, 05:30
If your vaccine is over 6 months old you will pay 100 baht to take a swab test and wait there for the test results before you can enter Khaosan Road.This is so dumb. Are people still under the impression that being freshly vaccinated will prevent you from catching (or spreading) COVID?
So many people are asymptomatic. They probably won't even know they have COVID?
Either they test Everyone or they test no one. The time stamp makes no sense whatsoever.
Explorer8939
11-16-21, 05:33
This is so dumb. Are people still under the impression that being freshly vaccinated will prevent you from catching (or spreading) COVID?
So many people are asymptomatic. They probably won't even know they have COVID?
Either they test Everyone or they test no one. The time stamp makes no sense whatsoever.Vaccination can prevent infection by up to 10%. So, yeah, ensuring customers are current on their vaccination can reduce potential infections.
Member #4753
11-16-21, 06:00
This is so dumb. Are people still under the impression that being freshly vaccinated will prevent you from catching (or spreading) COVID?
So many people are asymptomatic. They probably won't even know they have COVID?
Either they test Everyone or they test no one. The time stamp makes no sense whatsoever.Like it or not, agree or disagree, doesn't matter if you hold a PHD in science or a PHD in conspiracy theories: this is most likely going to be the model for opening entertainment areas in Thailand.
Franciscass
11-16-21, 06:54
This is so dumb. Are people still under the impression that being freshly vaccinated will prevent you from catching (or spreading) COVID?
So many people are asymptomatic. They probably won't even know they have COVID?
Either they test Everyone or they test no one. The time stamp makes no sense whatsoever.The level of antibodies and therefore protection from serious illness seemingly does decline round about 6 months after initial full vaccination, hence the importance of the booster. Whether you are also more likely to become infected and more likely to transmit as far as I can tell is still not fully understood but true or not it's a common belief in Thailand that Sinovac loses on both scores within 6 months.
Personally while I enjoy the pub scene I would be loath to risk getting a positive from a cheap antigen test and get hauled off to god only knows where and probably even he doesn't know how it could end up.
Chimpo Chinn
11-17-21, 00:25
Khaosan Ambulance Scam. They all in on it. Be careful.
Goes like this. You pay 100 baht for test. Comes in Positive. Just as Ambulance Door is about to close Doctor will say this can be cleared up in 6,000 New York minutes. You need to connect the dots.
First of all, big thanks to this forum! Information here helped me a lot in many countries. Now it is time to pay back with some reports from my side.
Arrived in Thailand 5 November via Phuket and spent one week there. The process of ThailandPass check and testing in the airport is well organized. PCR test results are available after 6-8 hours.
Phuket.
A lot of action on Bangla road. Most of the bars are open. Barfunk is a good one, 70-80% girls are freelance. Bangla closes at 10 PM, after that a crowd move to other places, like King Kong club. The prices vary and depend on your negotiation skills. I took a couple of girls for 2000. But I witnessed folks are agreeing for 3000 and above.
Moved to BKK 13 November. No documents were asked in the airport but I had a hotel release form with me.
Bangkok.
Used Tinder to pre-arrange some dates. Success rate is around 50% - not all girls are working or disclose it right away.
Went to Soi 7 - a lot of bars are open, the most crowded was Random bar. A lot of girls. Some freelance, some work at the bar. Not clear how to recognize who is who, actually.
Bars closed around 9 PM.
Walked by Thermae. Around 15-20 girls were there. Took an ex-go go dancer Bell for 2 k. Nice experience, great body.
Next day organized a date with Tinder girl. She is working at McDonalds, took her to nice restaurant and then to the hotel. She didn't ask for money at all.
Next day one more girl from Tinder. She didn't have a good English and when I tried to give her money she said. This is not what I came for. I didn't argue. Overall, nice experience but it felt like I was used hehe.
Soi Cowboy and Nana are closed, so not sure where to go now. Any suggestions are welcomed.
ElMexicant
11-17-21, 09:02
Hey bros,
I am arrived to Bangkok a couple of days ago. Only my second time in Bangkok. The other was only a quick stop before I went to Pattaya. Now I staying at the Raumchitt. I notice Thermae is still not open but Beer Garden is. They have same business model. But when I went to Beer Garden it was not lively. You would think that Thermae would open up since it used to have food and now alcohol is allowed. Anybody have news on Thermae and when they will open?
Like I mentioned. Not familiar with Bangkok. Share LINE contacts is appreciated. I can help your girls during these tough times.
I keep waiting to hear someone mention it on here but I have some on the ground reporting that the owner of Lolita's committed suicide within the last week. Don't know any other details, or even if the owner is Thai or Farang but figure I would post it to see if this can be confirmed. Obviously, they have been closed for quite a while and the likelihood of their opening even on the latest proposed Jan 15th date remains in doubt.Oh I hope this rumor is not true. I did drop by there this week and saw that it's shuttered. I met the owner any years back and he slyly bought me beer from his own bar. A top quality guy running a veritable institution for CIM BJs.
Fingers crossed he and the shop return to Soi 8.
I got to Bangkok tonight to do a wellness check and meet some job possibilities.
Took a walk down Soi 4 and the number of girls in the bars was far outpaced by the number of sad looking men. Most of the women that were there were not freelancers. They were older women with the sad men. The best collection of attractive girls on the whole soi was standing outside hooters. I almost grabbed one girl from that group. Super smile and really my type. If not for some work I needed to get done and my horrible record picking up street girls, I would have had a go.
But then I walked across the street and started walking back to my hotel on soi 7. There was a beer garden there and then a little alley by that bar. It led back into a little maze of bars that were hopping. It appears most of the girls from soi 4 were there instead. I have a TF girl scheduled for tomorrow night, but Friday I'm definitely going back there. At least half the girls were good enough to take home.
You guys probably know about that area, but I had never seen it. I totally stumbled on it due to the location of my hotel.
Like it or not, agree or disagree, doesn't matter if you hold a PHD in science or a PHD in conspiracy theories: this is most likely going to be the model for opening entertainment areas in Thailand.If covid 19 is like any previous serious flu pandemic things will be completely back to normal by 2024.
Member #4753
11-17-21, 17:02
If covid 19 is like any previous serious flu pandemic things will be completely back to normal by 2024.I think it will be completely over by the end of 2022. But until that time there it looks like there will be a lot of restrictions on unvaccinated vs vaccinated people.
First of all, big thanks to this forum! Information here helped me a lot in many countries. Now it is time to pay back with some reports from my side.
Arrived in Thailand 5 November via Phuket and spent one week there. The process of ThailandPass check and testing in the airport is well organized. PCR test results are available after 6-8 hours.
Phuket.
A lot of action on Bangla road. Most of the bars are open. Barfunk is a good one, 70-80% girls are freelance. Bangla closes at 10 PM, after that a crowd move to other places, like King Kong club. The prices vary and depend on your negotiation skills. I took a couple of girls for 2000. But I witnessed folks are agreeing for 3000 and above.
Moved to BKK 13 November. No documents were asked in the airport but I had a hotel release form with me.
Bangkok..Hi,
Great report. Appreciated. I'd recommend the massage parlors in soi 24/1. Don't know if they're fully operational now or not. Maybe each has two or three gals. Report back if you visit.
Member #4753
11-18-21, 00:59
Hi,
Great report. Appreciated. I'd recommend the massage parlors in soi 24/1. Don't know if they're fully operational now or not. Maybe each has two or three gals. Report back if you visit.Soi 24/1 is my favorite little street in Bangkok. Was there last week. Most of the places are open but they have vastly reduced number of girls working there, think 2 or 3 girls only. Maybe 4 or 5 in the couple of bigger places. Most ladies are lucky to see 1 customer a day.
These places never really closed even during lockdowns. They just turned the lights off and you would walk into the darkened shop, grab your girl and then head upstairs like normal.
First Lover
11-18-21, 01:39
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It is possible to find Narat in massage republic Thailand and search name Narat.
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If you like to try one that really likes anal and doesn't have to be a beauty queen then try Narat.
I got to Bangkok tonight to do a wellness check and meet some job possibilities.
Took a walk down Soi 4 and the number of girls in the bars was far outpaced by the number of sad looking men. Most of the women that were there were not freelancers. They were older women with the sad men. The best collection of attractive girls on the whole soi was standing outside hooters. I almost grabbed one girl from that group. Super smile and really my type. If not for some work I needed to get done and my horrible record picking up street girls, I would have had a go.
But then I walked across the street and started walking back to my hotel on soi 7. There was a beer garden there and then a little alley by that bar. It led back into a little maze of bars that were hopping. It appears most of the girls from soi 4 were there instead. I have a TF girl scheduled for tomorrow night, but Friday I'm definitely going back there. At least half the girls were good enough to take home.
You guys probably know about that area, but I had never seen it. I totally stumbled on it due to the location of my hotel.Yes, Soi 7 and that little ally you were curious and smart enough to investigate has been a topic of conversation here lately. And perhaps lucky enough to discover it at a good hour. Imo, the same luck and good hour principle applies to the bars on Soi 4. There are a handful of lookers that pop in and out of Morning Night and Hillary 2 as well. And sometimes on the street, as you noticed. But nothing like the crowds of girls in those Soi 7 bars.
Be prepared for Friday night on Soi 7 and, a tad less so, Saturday night, particularly from roughly 7pm to 9pm.
If it is anything like it has been over the past few months or unless the police and boys in brown (who will most likely be present to monitor the situation) shut bars down for overcrowding, the place will be packed with eager and more than doable girls.
Member #4753
11-18-21, 03:29
The best collection of attractive girls on the whole soi was standing outside hooters. The "girls" outside of hooters are a mixture of lady boys and some genuine girls.
Hi,
Great report. Appreciated. I'd recommend the massage parlors in soi 24/1. Don't know if they're fully operational now or not. Maybe each has two or three gals. Report back if you visit.Thanks. I was in that area during daytime. Parlors are open but I didn't see a lot of girls there. Will check during the evening and report back.
Out of curiosity walked through Soi Cowboy street. Everything dark and closed but I noticed several group of people drinking in the dark. Probably, they were feeling nostalgic about pre-covid times.
I went to Soi 11 - 4-5 bars are open and girls are there but nothing really attractive.
Moved to the alley at Soi 7 and sat down at Moonshine bar. Approached young 22 years old girl and had a couple of beers with her and her "colleagues". There was a free snooker inside and she said that her sister is playing with customers for entertainment. She quoted for 2500 plus 600 bar fine. But after 5 minutes dropped to 1500 and 600 bar fine without pressure from my side. Went to the hotel with her for 2 hours. Very nice GFE. She just came from her hometown and the snooker player lady was actually her mom. What a weird feeling, I have to admit. Then we went back to the Moonshine bar at 10 PM to have some food and I wanted to see what is going on there after closing time. Drinks and food were being served but I can guarantee police is monitoring that area as everybody was on a bit of alert.
Most of the girls from the bars were desperately looking for customers who were leaving or came late and it was a show to observe. On the way back I could noticed that a lot of girls from Soi 7 bars distributed evenly near closed Thermae and between Nana and Asok BTS stations.
I probably will go back the same area today.
Hi all,
Does anybody up to hangout together at Soi 7, 20 November. Please, shout out and reply to this thread.
The "girls" outside of hooters are a mixture of lady boys and some genuine girls.Yes, some of them were ladyboys for sure. But the real girls there were nicer than the girls I saw in the bars along that street. I might have been early though.
Chimpo Chinn
11-18-21, 12:36
Here is a recommendation.
If you like a active a-level action, then I suggest you try Narat.
Narat is not a beauty queen but has other qualities.
Body petite, tight ass, good boobs and very friendly attitude.
It is possible to find Narat in massage republic Thailand and search name Narat.
This girl is anal enthusiasts and cums easy when getting anal pleasures.
If you like to try one that really likes anal and doesn't have to be a beauty queen then try Narat.How Not much of a Beauty is Narat.
1-10 with 1 being a Stunner, is Narat a 8.5? I get that impression as you emphasize she is the you word.
Chimpo Chinn
11-18-21, 12:45
April at the earliest people. Airlines know more than we do. They have given up landing slots till April.
Don't believe what Bargirls tell you.
But then I walked across the street and started walking back to my hotel on soi 7. There was a beer garden there and then a little alley by that bar. It led back into a little maze of bars that were hopping. It appears most of the girls from soi 4 were there instead. I have a TF girl scheduled for tomorrow night, but Friday I'm definitely going back there. At least half the girls were good enough to take home.How would you compare the Bangkok nightlife to Bangla right now? I have another month in Thailand and debating if I want to swing through Bangkok for a bit or just keep hanging around Phuket and the surrounding islands.
LookingLooking
11-18-21, 14:53
Let me try and summarise from info posted here. For Bangkok.
1. The alleys in soi 4 & 7 have bars open. But they start to close from 9 pm. Allowance is given with cops on the watch in the alleys and given some allowance to clear the place, possibly up to an hour (10 pm). The smaller alleys have more bars (alley within alley) but they still adhere to the 9 pm alcohol ban.
Freelancers are widely available in soi 4 & 7 bars, with better quality ones in the smaller alleys.
2. The agogo bars are not open. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong.
3. Thermae is not open. But there are many freelancers standing on the street outside. Not able to separate who are the ladyboys & real girls.
4. The beer bars in patpong are opened to 9 pm, same as soi 4 & 7. But not the agogo bars.
5. Heard that clubs in khaosan are opened too. Maybe till 9 pm as well? Beware of covid test scams.
6. "Sensual" massages are open as usual, at least most of them. But with less girls available.
Feel free to correct my summary here.
No, I have not verified any of these info on the street myself.
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Moved to the alley at Soi 7 and sat down at Moonshine bar. Approached young 22 years old girl and had a couple of beers with her and her "colleagues". There was a free snooker inside and she said that her sister is playing with customers for entertainment. She quoted for 2500 plus 600 bar fine. But after 5 minutes dropped to 1500 and 600 bar fine without pressure from my side. Went to the hotel with her for 2 hours. Very nice GFE. She just came from her hometown and the snooker player lady was actually her mom. What a weird feeling, I have to admit. Then we went back to the Moonshine bar at 10 PM to have some food and I wanted to see what is going on there after closing time. Drinks and food were being served but I can guarantee police is monitoring that area as everybody was on a bit of alert.
Most of the girls from the bars were desperately looking for customers who were leaving or came late and it was a show to observe. On the way back I could noticed that a lot of girls from Soi 7 bars distributed evenly near closed Thermae and between Nana and Asok BTS stations.
I probably will go back the same area today.On the issue of barfines at those Soi 7 bars, although there are certainly some freelancers passing through on their way to or from the front of (closed) Thermae, some who primarily work Tinder, ThaiFriendly and so on where there is no barfine involved, that collection of bars does NOT currently follow the Thermae freelancer business model with every girl at every bar.
For example, there are several girls in those Soi 7 bars who only hustle Ladydrinks and drinks for you but don't go with customers (well, not directly, that is). Right away you can see that is nothing like meeting a girl in Thermae where there is no such thing as a Ladydrink for which the girls get a commission or a barfine to pay the bar before taking a girl out of the bar.
Btw, I recommend anybody ask the girl if she goes with customers for Short Times or Long Times before buying her or yourself a drink at her bar if possibly having sex with her is part of your plan. Wait for a clear Yes or No to that simple question before settling in to order a drink. And if it is No, there is nothing wrong and everything right about smiling, thanking her and moving on to a girl who will have sex with you if the notion occurs.
It can also be the same as it is in Thermae in some cases; no Ladydrink, no LD commission, no barfine.
What you described is a common scenario in those Soi 7 bars; the girl and the bar have an arrangement where her presence has enough value to the bar in terms of drawing customers to sit and buy drinks that they provide her with a commission for every Ladydrink that is bought for her. Some girls might get a more generous commission than others.
Therefore, it is also understood that the bar suffers a bit of a loss by that girl's absence if she is taken out by a customer, right? Hence, a barfine is "charged" to take her out.
Also as you described, the circumstances can allow for a lot of flexibility on how or if the bar gets that money. Likely the girl doesn't want to blatantly cut out a bar owner who has been nice enough to give her commissions on Ladydrinks even when no customer is ready to take her out. So maybe she will just reduce the rate you'd already agreed to pay her by roughly the same cost of the barfine (or more!) and, as I had alluded to in a previous post, you wind up giving that much money to the bar now instead of the same amount of money to her later.
Why not just wait to take a girl after 9pm when some of those bars close anyway? Well, you could as long as you are certain the girl you want won't see a long time repeat customer walk into the area at 8:50pm that she feels compelled to be loyal to instead of you or she gets a much better offer coming across her smartphone at 8:45pm. Lol.
It depends on how critical it is for you to save that 300 - 600 baht on a given night with a given girl, I suppose.
A few weeks ago I paid a 500 baht barfine to take a girl out of one of those Soi 7 bars at about 8:30pm because while chatting at the bar I learned she had just returned to Bangkok from her outlying province and had not yet seen what was happening anywhere in the area except Soi 7. So I wanted to take her out early enough to give her a ride on my motorbike to see what things were like on Soi 4, Soi 8, Soi Cowboy and parts of Sukhumvit while those bars, if any, were still open. Then we stopped in at a bar on Soi 11 for a drink before that one closed.
It was a fun tour of the red light district in a state of semi-closure that she had never witnessed before. Worth the 500 baht barfine with that one.
How would you compare the Bangkok nightlife to Bangla right now? I have another month in Thailand and debating if I want to swing through Bangkok for a bit or just keep hanging around Phuket and the surrounding islands.I haven't been to Bangla in a month, but I think Bangla was more relaxed and open in the sense that nobody is worried about getting in trouble and you don't need to be careful about having a beer. Bangkok will always have more girls and a wider variety of girls. I think if you want to relax, play some pool, and not worry about having fun or taking precautions, I would probably say Bangla is better. Otherwise, Bangkok might be a better destination for you.
I haven't been to Bangla in a month, but I think Bangla was more relaxed and open in the sense that nobody is worried about getting in trouble and you don't need to be careful about having a beer. Bangkok will always have more girls and a wider variety of girls. I think if you want to relax, play some pool, and not worry about having fun or taking precautions, I would probably say Bangla is better. Otherwise, Bangkok might be a better destination for you.Cheers mate, thanks for all your updates. They've been really helpful.
Anyone (including CIMguy) have suggestions for a nice girl-friendly hotel near the action?
Member #4733
11-18-21, 20:45
A few weeks ago I paid a 500 baht barfine to take a girl out of one of those Soi 7 bars at about 8:30pm because while chatting at the bar I learned she had just returned to Bangkok from her outlying province and had not yet seen what was happening anywhere in the area except Soi 7. So I wanted to take her out early enough to give her a ride on my motorbike to see what things were like on Soi 4, Soi 8, Soi Cowboy and parts of Sukhumvit while those bars, if any, were still open. Then we stopped in at a bar on Soi 11 for a drink before that one closed.
It was a fun tour of the red light district in a state of semi-closure that she had never witnessed before. Worth the 500 baht barfine with that one.So, you took her out on a trip and paid for it? On a different note. When I looked in Youtube.com for recent videos of Soi Cowboy and Nana there are a few that make it look like they are open again. There are also some that show a very dark Soi Cowboy. That put me on the ground again. The others are old videos, just published recently. One video had a guy telling that already some Gogo's were 'gone'. Among them 'Crazy cat'. I really liked that one as it was calm and always had a few girls that I really liked. Does anyone know whether some Gogo's are already gone or is it just a BS video like the 'recent videos of old times'.
Member #4753
11-19-21, 01:27
Let me try and summarise from info posted here. For Bangkok.
1. The alleys in soi 4 & 7 have bars open. But they start to close from 9 pm. Allowance is given with cops on the watch in the alleys and given some allowance to clear the place, possibly up to an hour (10 pm). The smaller alleys have more bars (alley within alley) but they still adhere to the 9 pm alcohol ban.
Freelancers are widely available in soi 4 & 7 bars, with better quality ones in the smaller alleys.
2. The agogo bars are not open. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong.
3. Thermae is not open. But there are many freelancers standing on the street outside. Not able to separate who are the ladyboys & real girls.
4. The beer bars in patpong are opened to 9 pm, same as soi 4 & 7. But not the agogo bars.
5. Heard that clubs in khaosan are opened too. Maybe till 9 pm as well? Beware of covid test scams.
6. "Sensual" massages are open as usual, at least most of them. But with less girls available.
Feel free to correct my summary here.
No, I have not verified any of these info on the street myself.You have been eagerly reading posts and taking notes. That is exactly what I do before visiting an area for first time or one in an ever covid changing envirnment.
The summary you have provided is quite accurate as a starting point.
Member #4753
11-19-21, 01:38
So, you took her out on a trip and paid for it? On a different note. When I looked in Youtube.com for recent videos of Soi Cowboy and Nana there are a few that make it look like they are open again. There are also some that show a very dark Soi Cowboy. That put me on the ground again. The others are old videos, just published recently. One video had a guy telling that already some Gogo's were 'gone'. Among them 'Crazy cat'. I really liked that one as it was calm and always had a few girls that I really liked. Does anyone know whether some Gogo's are already gone or is it just a BS video like the 'recent videos of old times'.I have walked around soi cowboy during the day and at night several times over the last few months. At daytime there are many street food vendors outside the bars that line the soi. It is interesting to see Bacarra outside tables being used as a small food court during the day. At night it is completely dark at the moment with the exception of 1 small bar towards soi 21 and there is some activity at the other end around kazykosy. Everything else is completely dark. You do see small groups of thais hanging around in the dark having a beer, but I assume they work there maintaining the very closed bars.
All bars are closed up but you can see in many of them. Most of the furniture is just sitting inside gathering dust. I am sure when things open they will all be cleaned up and spring back into action. The businesses that did not survive will come back with different owners.
So, you took her out on a trip and paid for it?.Yes, but what paid for was a Long Time from 8:30 pm until mid-morning the next day. In that case we settled on 2,000 baht + 500 barfine, DFK, shaved pussy, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP all fully and happily agreed to upfront in the bar before I decided to take her. Great real GFE all night. So there was no need to get to my room quickly as would have been my choice if it was only a Short Time. We were in my room, showered, naked and well into it by 10 pm that night.
On the situation at Soi Cowboy, my observations lately are the same as MaxBkk's.
On the issue of barfines at those Soi 7 bars, although there are certainly some freelancers passing through on their way to or from the front of (closed) Thermae, some who primarily work Tinder, ThaiFriendly and so on where there is no barfine involved, that collection of bars does NOT currently follow the Thermae freelancer business model with every girl at every bar.
For example, there are several girls in those Soi 7 bars who only hustle Ladydrinks and drinks for you but don't go with customers (well, not directly, that is). Right away you can see that is nothing like meeting a girl in Thermae where there is no such thing as a Ladydrink for which the girls get a commission or a barfine to pay the bar before taking a girl out of the bar.
Btw, I recommend anybody ask the girl if she goes with customers for Short Times or Long Times before buying her or yourself a drink at her bar if possibly having sex with her is part of your plan. Wait for a clear Yes or No to that simple question before settling in to order a drink. And if it is No, there is nothing wrong and everything right about smiling, thanking her and moving on to a girl who will have sex with you if the notion occurs.
It can also be the same as it is in Thermae in some cases; no Ladydrink, no LD commission, no barfine.
What you described is a common scenario in those Soi 7 bars; the girl and the bar have an arrangement where her presence has enough value to the bar in terms of drawing customers to sit and buy drinks that they provide her with a commission for every Ladydrink that is bought for her. Some girls might get a more generous commission than others.
Therefore, it is also understood that the bar suffers a bit of a loss by that girl's absence if she is taken out by a customer, right? Hence, a barfine is "charged" to take her out.I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.
I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.I understand and appreciate what you're saying, Goatscrot. But, as I recall, you're mostly a "cum on" punter who much prefers to pull out and cum on the girl's face, stomach, wherever rather than a "cum in" punter who much prefers to stay inside for a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM, right? If so, your preference is ideally suited to those lovely young and always safety-first sideliners who I imagine are not going to do either of those latter options nearly as willingly and hassle-free as the girls on the ground in any beer bar, go-go bar and so on. And certainly not for Long Time.
I for one am willing to compromise on the looks you cited since without at least one or both of those two latter options included happily, willingly and without hassle, a lovely young sideliner is about as useful to me in any quality level hotel room as an interesting potted plant.
Cheers mate, thanks for all your updates. They've been really helpful.
Anyone (including CIMguy) have suggestions for a nice girl-friendly hotel near the action?I have stayed at Four Points Sheraton, circa 15 minutes walk from Bangla. Nice new hotel with two great pools. It is located in the beginning of Patpong beach.
And I agree with CIMguy. Phuket was way more relaxed and interesting from nightlife perspective.
ElMexicant
11-19-21, 07:38
I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.Just heads up bro. I was walking to there the other night. The entire street including the little side cart bars were dark. Random Club had the metal doors pulled down. The alley bars had lights on and I can hear some people chattering, but no music. There was police in the brown uniforms on motorcycles by the entrance. They tell me not open. I was little scared and kept walking. Maybe I will try the sideliners next. I like white skin girls.
I have walked around soi cowboy during the day and at night several times over the last few months. At daytime there are many street food vendors outside the bars that line the soi. It is interesting to see Bacarra outside tables being used as a small food court during the day. At night it is completely dark at the moment with the exception of 1 small bar towards soi 21 and there is some activity at the other end around kazykosy. Everything else is completely dark. You do see small groups of thais hanging around in the dark having a beer, but I assume they work there maintaining the very closed bars.
All bars are closed up but you can see in many of them. Most of the furniture is just sitting inside gathering dust. I am sure when things open they will all be cleaned up and spring back into action. The businesses that did not survive will come back with different owners.I walked through there two nights ago and a few girls were sitting there talking, including a momasan (SP?) type woman. They tried to get me to stop, but I wanted to take a look at the massage places along the other street before they closed. When I came back through, I stopped and talked to them for a few minutes. The older woman said that they were told that they would open next year. I'm not sure what next year meant. At the time, I thought she meant January, but it occurs to me now that she could have meant much later than that. The fact that I'm in Thailand for a year and I might not see a single gogo bar is really pretty sad. Of course, I wouldn't be here if not for Covid, so I guess it evens out.
The one cute girl in the group gave me her Line. I might have taken her home right then, but everyone was all over me trying to get me to buy a beer for myself and for them. It was awful, so I bailed. I also didn't want to get in trouble, so I told them I would only drink water. Anyway, I left after 5 minutes. The girl messaged me later and offered 3000ST and 5000 LT. I told her that I could have a girl for half of that who would do a lot of extras and she said she wasn't one of those girls and I said good luck finding customers and that was it. Too bad, she was cute.
I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.I totally get your approach and I would do the same thing if I was here a long time. But for those of us who might only be here a week or two, I'm wondering if there's a way to speed up that process. A board member is taking me to see the hotel girls this weekend, so that might do the trick, but I'm sure others wonder how to best attack the problem. I was surprised by the number of cute girls in Soi 7 the first night I walked through there, but there were fewer winners the second night. I do think most average looking guys could walk in there and find some girl that fits his type, but maybe I'm too optimistic. I don't know about prices.
Just heads up bro. I was walking to there the other night. The entire street including the little side cart bars were dark. Random Club had the metal doors pulled down. The alley bars had lights on and I can hear some people chattering, but no music. There was police in the brown uniforms on motorcycles by the entrance. They tell me not open. I was little scared and kept walking. Maybe I will try the sideliners next. I like white skin girls.What time was that? Random Bar does usually close and they pull down those metal doors at about 9 pm.
Tonight, all the bars on Soi 7 and all but 2-3 beer bars on Soi 4 were open. The bars on Soi 8 and Soi 11 were all open. There were so many bars open from Thermae, which has not opened yet, to down Soi 4 to the Soi 6 intersection the available girls were spread out everywhere, not concentrated as much in those Soi 7 bars as before.
I only stopped by Soi 7 at about 7 pm, quickly picked up a tight body young girl for ST and did not cruise past those and other bars again until just before 9 pm. Then I went home. But they were all open at that time too. Just passing by it appeared to me some of the better looking girls were in Hillary 2 on this night.
It really is unpredictable from one night and hour to the next right now. If anyone is interested in that option for picking up girls these days, it is best to cruise by as many of the bars on those sois as possible and not take the conditions on any one bar area as a sign for what's available on a given night. It can be dead on one soi and a party on the next.
I walked through there two nights ago and a few girls were sitting there talking, including a momasan (SP?) type woman. They tried to get me to stop, but I wanted to take a look at the massage places along the other street before they closed. When I came back through, I stopped and talked to them for a few minutes. The older woman said that they were told that they would open next year. I'm not sure what next year meant. At the time, I thought she meant January, but it occurs to me now that she could have meant much later than that. The fact that I'm in Thailand for a year and I might not see a single gogo bar is really pretty sad. Of course, I wouldn't be here if not for Covid, so I guess it evens out.
The one cute girl in the group gave me her Line. I might have taken her home right then, but everyone was all over me trying to get me to buy a beer for myself and for them. It was awful, so I bailed. I also didn't want to get in trouble, so I told them I would only drink water. Anyway, I left after 5 minutes. The girl messaged me later and offered 3000ST and 5000 LT. I told her that I could have a girl for half of that who would do a lot of extras and she said she wasn't one of those girls and I said good luck finding customers and that was it. Too bad, she was cute.January 16th I believe gogo and bars were told recently! Hopefully true, comes from very good sources (gogo bar owner)! Hope this helps and is true without anymore jam ups!
Banana Boi
11-19-21, 22:17
January 16th I believe gogo and bars were told recently! Hopefully true, comes from very good sources (gogo bar owner)! Hope this helps and is true without anymore jam ups!A lot can happen between now and January 16. I may even be the new co-owners of Skyfall. It'll be one way of rectifying my ban from the club.
Explorer8939
11-20-21, 01:20
January 16th I believe gogo and bars were told recently! Hopefully true, comes from very good sources (gogo bar owner)! Hope this helps and is true without anymore jam ups!To be clear, January is not an official opening date, it's a No Earlier Than date. It could move.
I understand and appreciate what you're saying, Goatscrot. But, as I recall, you're mostly a "cum on" punter who much prefers to pull out and cum on the girl's face, stomach, wherever rather than a "cum in" punter who much prefers to stay inside for a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM, right? If so, your preference is ideally suited to those lovely young and always safety-first sideliners who I imagine are not going to do either of those latter options nearly as willingly and hassle-free as the girls on the ground in any beer bar, go-go bar and so on. And certainly not for Long Time.
I for one am willing to compromise on the looks you cited since without at least one or both of those two latter options included happily, willingly and without hassle, a lovely young sideliner is about as useful to me in any quality level hotel room as an interesting potted plant.Yup, don't need BBFS. It's nice on occasion but not a necessity. Many of the sideline gals will do BBBJ CIM (it'll tell you right in the description).
I'm a two shot per session guy and as I've gotten older if the looks aren't there, that second shot isn't either.
I totally get your approach and I would do the same thing if I was here a long time. But for those of us who might only be here a week or two, I'm wondering if there's a way to speed up that process. A board member is taking me to see the hotel girls this weekend, so that might do the trick, but I'm sure others wonder how to best attack the problem. I was surprised by the number of cute girls in Soi 7 the first night I walked through there, but there were fewer winners the second night. I do think most average looking guys could walk in there and find some girl that fits his type, but maybe I'm too optimistic. I don't know about prices.Yes, you are correct. I don't really think the sidelines game is suited to the short-term visitor. I can't stress enough how much time is required doing research. But hey it's kind of fun reading reports and looking at pictures.
In addition many of the girls don't speak English or speak very limited English. Speaking at least some Thai is an enormous help. I would imagine some of the girls would be quite uncomfortable with someone who didn't speak Thai at all. I found that some are quite thrilled when I walk into the room and start joking with them in their language. It's quite a good ice breaker.
Just heads up bro. I was walking to there the other night. The entire street including the little side cart bars were dark. Random Club had the metal doors pulled down. The alley bars had lights on and I can hear some people chattering, but no music. There was police in the brown uniforms on motorcycles by the entrance. They tell me not open. I was little scared and kept walking. Maybe I will try the sideliners next. I like white skin girls.There always the specter of a possible raid. I don't think I would ever sit down and have a drink at this point.
There always the specter of a possible raid. I don't think I would ever sit down and have a drink at this point.I sat down in a bar last night and had a coke but knew almost everyone else in the place was drinking alcohol. It would have been no different in any number of regular restaurants in the area, even after 9 pm.
We should all be wary of a possible round up and arrest of everyone in such a venue for the time being. But I have not yet read or heard of customer or patron round ups and arrests in Bangkok based on alcohol consumption alone in the absence of overcrowding, congestion or, in at least one case, group dancing.
I have read and heard of customer round ups where alcohol is also mentioned; in bars and at parties, gatherings of more than 5 people. And where alcohol was not a factor at all; orgies, protest gatherings, concerts, again, groups of more than 5.
But I have not yet read or heard of customer round ups where, for example, the 5 or fewer people in a well ventilated restaurant or bar where overcrowding and congestion was not an issue at all were caught drinking alcohol in cups at the wrong hour. Yet the authorities could have been conducting such group arrests of patrons anywhere and everywhere every night for more than a year.
Anyway, I'm just saying the factor that triggers customer round ups in Bangkok so far appears to be all about overcrowded conditions for the venue and little or nothing to do with what the liquid is in our cup. Even though the reports will throw in a mention that some or all customers rounded up somewhere were drinking alcohol and the person serving the alcohol was arrested for serving alcohol, that wasn't the problem that got anyone's attention and triggered the round up.
Alcohol consumption isn't necessary to be caught in a round up. I would not be drinking alcohol yet would still be part of the round up if I entered or remained in a poorly ventilated, overcrowded room or environment whether it was a bar, a Starbucks or a movie theater. Therefore, those are the conditions I try to take note of and avoid these days.
ElMexicant
11-20-21, 08:54
What time was that? Random Bar does usually close and they pull down those metal doors at about 9 pm.
Tonight, all the bars on Soi 7 and all but 2-3 beer bars on Soi 4 were open. The bars on Soi 8 and Soi 11 were all open. There were so many bars open from Thermae, which has not opened yet, to down Soi 4 to the Soi 6 intersection the available girls were spread out everywhere, not concentrated as much in those Soi 7 bars as before.
I only stopped by Soi 7 at about 7 pm, quickly picked up a tight body young girl for ST and did not cruise past those and other bars again until just before 9 pm. Then I went home. But they were all open at that time too. Just passing by it appeared to me some of the better looking girls were in Hillary 2 on this night.
It really is unpredictable from one night and hour to the next right now. If anyone is interested in that option for picking up girls these days, it is best to cruise by as many of the bars on those sois as possible and not take the conditions on any one bar area as a sign for what's available on a given night. It can be dead on one soi and a party on the next.Yes bro. It was near 21:00 when I walked by that night the police was in the front. Yesterday, I did not see any police. Not many of my Desi bros in that place either. The girls where like mosquitos. Annoying and begging for drinks. Very aggressive. The quality reminded me of Soi Made in Thailand in Pattaya. I ended up getting pulled in by a very short puffy lip I'm not sure what it was, but she would not let go of my arm. So I sat for 1 drink and then got out to walk Soi 4. Many decent girls on Soi 4 offering BJs for 500-1000 in their rooms. I guess this is where all the ladies from Lolitas went because I saw that closed too.
El Frances
11-21-21, 01:11
This girl didn't quote or mention any rate to me before, during or after the session. So I suppose some guys here would consider me to be a chump for giving her any money at all on her way out. But I put 1,500 on the table next to her purse with a couple of 100 baht notes folded next to it while she was taking her post-sex shower and she seemed fine with it. Big hug and kiss goodbye at the door and sweet Line messages from her afterwards.
When they quote 2,000 do you counter with less and see if they are ok to split the difference?
Personally, if the girl initiates a quote upfront that is at least within the realm of realistic if she's going to rock my world in the room, I tend not to counter with a lower amount or reject her wish amount. I immediately shift the topic to what I want her to do if I paid this wish amount quote of hers; "Sweetheart, I would be happy to give you 3,000 if you stay Long Time (all night until morning), we kiss with our tongues gently touching, your pussy is shaved, no hair, we kiss and lick each other here and here and then we boom boom without a condom (fill in the blanks with whatever does it for you)."
She might totally agree with a smile right away, in which case I am fine with the deal too assuming I really want to fuck this one tonight and it is my preferred time of the evening to walk hand in hand into paradise with the young lady around 9-10 pm with no anticipation that there will be another word spoken about can or can't on those issues.
But if she balks on any of it that's when my lower counter offers begin. Hell, it might go down from 3,000 for whatever she thought she could pawn off as enough sexual activity for the money to a Short Time with DFK and BBBJ+CIM for 1,000 or 1,500 if it's no hurry and she Swallows like a good girl instead of spitting it out like a grizzled old granny farmer.
In the above particular group of requests, Long Time/All Night is often the first to go, she either can't or won't do LT, and that's fine with me. In fact, I always request it even though it really isn't too important to me that they stay to sleep all night just to give them a bargaining chip to play and feel like they won something. But the amount I would agree to will have dropped by 1,000 or more as well.
There is nothing chiseled in stone about this for me. It's just that I have always felt whatever serious problems there too often are or can be with the Thai P4P scene, the "cost" of it isn't one of them. But the quality of the service you get for your time and money is.
That's why I don't see negotiating down from 3,000 baht to 1,000 baht as any victory at all unless it is made clear upfront what I'm going to get for that 1,000 baht. Therefore, my first response or counter for any baht amount quote initiated by a girl here is not a lower baht amount. At that point the baht amount is irrelevant, it has no meaning. X amount "for what?"
No, my first response is a stated minimum level of service I'd need to get in order to so much as consider giving her anything close to that quote or no deal, thank you sweetheart, nice meeting you, bye and take care.Another m. O. Is not to ask for a quote but to say first how much you want to pay and propose an initial price which is a bit lower than what she's worth, and if necessary offer a bit more later.
Example:
Case 1: the girl quotes 3000, you counter with 2000. Girl not happy. The girl loses face because she has to give a discount.
Case 2: you propose 1500, she asks for more so you go up to 2000. Girl doesn't lose face because she convinced you to increase your initial offer.
Variant of case 2: she may accept 1500 from the start.
Member #4753
11-21-21, 01:56
I ended up getting pulled in by a very short puffy lip I'm not sure what it was, but she would not let go of my arm.LOL. Anyone that enters soi 7 complex will know exactly who you mean.
Another m. O. Is not to ask for a quote but to say first how much you want to pay and propose an initial price which is a bit lower than what she's worth, and if necessary offer a bit more later.
Example:
Case 1: the girl quotes 3000, you counter with 2000. Girl not happy. The girl loses face because she has to give a discount.
Case 2: you propose 1500, she asks for more so you go up to 2000. Girl doesn't lose face because she convinced you to increase your initial offer.
Variant of case 2: she may accept 1500 from the start.Yes, I can't remember the last time I initiated a conversation about the money at all, especially by by asking a girl anything like "How much?" or for a quote. Maybe never.
At the most, if she asks me to "Pay bar? Meaning will I pay the barfine to take her, I will ask how much is the barfine at this bar. Or I will get the ball rolling by asking if she likes ST or LT in the cases where a barfine does not apply.
I also rarely mention that short list of things I need or want an upfront agreement for, such as DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, unless she initiates a discussion about the money by giving me a quote upfront.
I figure if she wants to get the question of "How much?" settled upfront then it is only fair for me to settle the question of "For what exactly?" upfront as well.
On the other hand, if she mentions nothing about the money upfront and is willing to "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" on that issue, I am willing to do that on those requirements too. Except in the cases where she is pushing for "One more drink before we go" and there is a barfine involved. Then she is asking me to invest more and more upfront for an unknown outcome in the room. Then I will tell her what I expect in the room or no deal, yes or no.
Crocodilexp
11-21-21, 05:15
Another m. O. Is not to ask for a quote but to say first how much you want to pay and propose an initial price which is a bit lower than what she's worth, and if necessary offer a bit more later.
Example:
Case 1: the girl quotes 3000, you counter with 2000. Girl not happy. The girl loses face because she has to give a discount.
Case 2: you propose 1500, she asks for more so you go up to 2000. Girl doesn't lose face because she convinced you to increase your initial offer.
Variant of case 2: she may accept 1500 from the start.This is the best method, just stating my price works well for me.
However, at a time like this, it doesn't make sense to offer more than 1000. It's not an insulting amount, she's not going to walk away. I had girls offer 500 on their own on Sukhumvit, but I wouldn't offer that low, feels like taking advantage.
Landed last night at 10:30 PM (Asiana flight was barren, so was the airport). Went through health check and security no issues, out of the airport and picked up by hotel before 11:30. Went straight to the hospital, got tested, got my results back today at 9:00 AM. Needing to book the Test & Go package was a PITA and a bit of a rip off but considering the prices of tests in the States it's honestly not too bad.
A few things I noticed, had to go through a special transfer at ICN where they required everything in paper before they would give me the actual boarding pass. QR code, test result, arriving and departing flight itineraries, luggage tag, hotel receipt for test & go, and proof of hotel being SHA+. I had everything on my phone and ended up having to email all of this to the Asiana desk for them to print out. You might want to prep ahead of time if you have a short connection since no one in the line expected this, and it took them about 15+ minutes to process each person.
Member #4753
11-21-21, 06:53
The mention of price on here usually does not mention the relationship with quality or even venue.
Before covid a stunning or even above average lady would ask 3000 short term /6000 long term in a gogo. She would ask and get it all night long. Attractive women get bar fined quite quickly in normal times.
A stunning lady will probably not come down too much from this even in times of covid. You might get 2500 short term and 4000 to 5000 long term if you have some type of a relationship. There are still enough guys on the ground with cash to soak up all the hotties and are prepared to pay for it. Alot of these girls have taken up longer term deals to get them through rather than drop to silly prices.
It is the average girls and below average girls that will see what they can get really drop. These girls will take alot less right now and be thankful for any customers. Before they could ask 2500 short term maybe 5000 long term. Most would take 1500 to 2500 long term now.
ElMexicant
11-21-21, 06:55
This is the best method, just stating my price works well for me.
However, at a time like this, it doesn't make sense to offer more than 1000. It's not an insulting amount, she's not going to walk away. I had girls offer 500 on their own on Sukhumvit, but I wouldn't offer that low, feels like taking advantage.Hey bro,
Last night I was roaming Sukhumvit around 22:00. I haven't received an offer for 500, but a Nigerian guy introduced me to a tall Russian blonde girl. So many freelancers around Thermae. But not many want to take off their masks. With these COVID masks on, it is very difficult to tell anything apart. How do these girls expect to work like this? I also wonder why Thermae no just open and sell food and non alcoholic drinks? There is no curfew on businesses that I know of. He walked with me past Thermae and she was standing in front of S15 Hotel in very tight jeans with her hair up. She wanted 1500 for ST and I agreed. But the Nigerian wanted another 500 for a finders fee. When I refused, he started to get a bit of aggressive and got on the phone calling his brothers to meet him. I then just gave him 300 and he left. Not sure what went on there. Maybe I had to pay a bar fine for a Russian street girl? In the bed, she was good. Good wet blow job for at least 30 minutes with sucking action. Many position changes. During boom boom. Allowed me to CIP for an extra 500 baht, 2 shots. This was my first Russian girl ever in my life.
WW telegram is down, anyone know if they have a new telegram or other contact info?
To be clear, January is not an official opening date, it's a No Earlier Than date. It could move.There's talk that there may be changes coming at the next CCSA meeting on Friday, bar owners are hoping to be allowed to open before January 15 if they follow SHA+ rules. Although it sounds very unlikely according to this report: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2218471/ccsa-to-consider-night-venues-plea.
Francesco24
11-21-21, 13:10
Yes, you are correct. I don't really think the sidelines game is suited to the short-term visitor. I can't stress enough how much time is required doing research. But hey it's kind of fun reading reports and looking at pictures.
In addition many of the girls don't speak English or speak very limited English. Speaking at least some Thai is an enormous help. I would imagine some of the girls would be quite uncomfortable with someone who didn't speak Thai at all. I found that some are quite thrilled when I walk into the room and start joking with them in their language. It's quite a good ice breaker.Which website you had the best luck so far?
There's talk that there may be changes coming at the next CCSA meeting on Friday, bar owners are hoping to be allowed to open before January 15 if they follow SHA+ rules. Although it sounds very unlikely according to this report: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2218471/ccsa-to-consider-night-venues-plea.Sooo basically what I'm hearing is if I wanted to plan a boys trip for New Years, Thailand is not the move? I've been reading some of the post below and it seems like the nightlife is super dead. Where would anyone recommend to go for New Years if there's nothing going on in Bangkok or Pattaya?
Sebs.
Chimpo Chinn
11-21-21, 14:13
There's talk that there may be changes coming at the next CCSA meeting on Friday, bar owners are hoping to be allowed to open before January 15 if they follow SHA+ rules. Although it sounds very unlikely according to this report: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2218471/ccsa-to-consider-night-venues-plea.Circle the square please. Airlines gave up landing slots till end of March. Does govt expect them to ramp up in a few weeks.
I'm praying for a full reopening in April.
ThaiGoodTimes
11-21-21, 15:08
The mention of price on here usually does not mention the relationship with quality or even venue.
Before covid a stunning or even above average lady would ask 3000 short term /6000 long term in a gogo. She would ask and get it all night long. Attractive women get bar fined quite quickly in normal times.
A stunning lady will probably not come down too much from this even in times of covid. You might get 2500 short term and 4000 to 5000 long term if you have some type of a relationship. There are still enough guys on the ground with cash to soak up all the hotties and are prepared to pay for it. Alot of these girls have taken up longer term deals to get them through rather than drop to silly prices.
It is the average girls and below average girls that will see what they can get really drop. These girls will take alot less right now and be thankful for any customers. Before they could ask 2500 short term maybe 5000 long term. Most would take 1500 to 2500 long term now.The other approach that works well is to accept their price but on a tiered structure.
I often say that's more than I'm willing to pay on a gamble, how about I give you 75%, 1500 if they ask for 2000, and then I say I'll give them 500 as a tip if they make me happy. Generally that leads to a conversation about service not cost. And in a service conversation they don't lose face if they say that can't do that and then accept less, for doing less, but only doing what they want. They see that as a win for them.
The mention of price on here usually does not mention the relationship with quality or even venue.
Before covid a stunning or even above average lady would ask 3000 short term /6000 long term in a gogo. She would ask and get it all night long. Attractive women get bar fined quite quickly in normal times.
A stunning lady will probably not come down too much from this even in times of covid. You might get 2500 short term and 4000 to 5000 long term if you have some type of a relationship. There are still enough guys on the ground with cash to soak up all the hotties and are prepared to pay for it. Alot of these girls have taken up longer term deals to get them through rather than drop to silly prices.
It is the average girls and below average girls that will see what they can get really drop. These girls will take alot less right now and be thankful for any customers. Before they could ask 2500 short term maybe 5000 long term. Most would take 1500 to 2500 long term now.Overall, I agree with your assessment here. I'm not sure I have even seen more than a handful of "stunning" girls working in public over the past Covid year or so. Maybe a few were working the online dating sites. I met a few new girls over the past Covid year whose photos might have fooled some into thinking they were "stunning" But when they showed up they were only above average at best.
I think the highest ranking on looks I have given the available girls in the Soi 7 bar collection, anywhere on Soi 4 or to be found in front of Thermae along Sukhumvit so far has been that some of them are "more than doable" Not that any are stunning, super hot, objectively hot or impressive, particularly for any of us who have lived here a few years.
I have mentioned several times how lucky I felt to have a few pre-Covid favorites and regulars who had to remain in Bangkok, could not retreat to their outer province for various reasons, have instead cycled through my rotation over the paat Covid year and how the vast majority of new girls I have met during this past Covid year were dreadful in terms of quality of service if not in terms of attractiveness.
I would judge 2-3 of my regulars to be above average in terms of looks, suspect a few newly arrived sex starved punters from the West might judge those to be well above average and possibly even "stunning" compared to what is available around town.
Yet none of those 2-3 regulars I am talking about have over the past Covid year been working the streets, working in a massage shop, in a bar officially or unofficially open, in an escort agency, on TF, Tinder or any other online site and I have looked at many of them. I have never seen them anywhere with someone else other than me except perhaps with a female friend in a restaurant.
So, for all practical purposes they have not been working P4 P over the past Covid year except with me and possibly 1-2 other sponsors somewhere but most likely getting support from overseas lonely hearts they met 1-2 years ago.
My conclusion is they don't really need the money enough to hook up with many if any new customers, nevermind if they will come down to 2,000 plus taxi for LT with BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow for a new customer, which is what I have been giving them for the past year of seeing them every week or so. However, as you alluded to, I have a long term pre-Covid relationship with them.
I liken the omission of quality of looks when talking about girls who drop their acceptable ST rate to, say, 1,000 baht in Bangkok to omitting quality of service from the discussion. I think it is quite possible if not fairly easy these days to get an above average working girl to agree to 1,000 baht for ST if it is going to be standard covered FS and she can reasonably assume it won't require much of her time at all. Almost certainly 1,500 baht is doable for that level of service, standard fare service, with a just above average girl.
And I also think it is quite possible if not fairly easy to get average girls to agree upfront to things they would never agree to pre-Covid for the same 1,500 - 2,000 baht ST they were mostly getting before.
It is much more difficult to get objectively way above average girls to agree to the 2 higher levels of service I mentioned above for less than 2,000ST or 3,000 LT even at the worst of times over the past year. The same as during normal times. And for most punters, I suspect it would be impossible.
Now, when it comes to "stunning" girls agreeing to either or both of those 2 higher levels of service I mentioned with a new customer for anything close to the going rate even for "stunning" girls in Thailand, forget about it. And definitely not for LT too.
Unless the guy is a super star or could pass for one. Even then I doubt it. And they might not even need to be objectively "stunning" Just being the hottest girl in the lineup will do.
Why should they? To go further on the idea you mentioned; there will always be punters who are so obsessed with the goal of being seen walking out with "the hottest girl in the lineup" or in the room they will accept anything or nearly nothing from the girl and happily pay them top dollar for it. And the hottest girl in the lineup knows all about that dynamic the instant she shows up for work and looks around.
CockaSaurus
11-21-21, 22:46
The other approach that works well is to accept their price but on a tiered structure.
I often say that's more than I'm willing to pay on a gamble, how about I give you 75%, 1500 if they ask for 2000, and then I say I'll give them 500 as a tip if they make me happy. Generally that leads to a conversation about service not cost. And in a service conversation they don't lose face if they say that can't do that and then accept less, for doing less, but only doing what they want. They see that as a win for them.This is my approach as well not just in Thailand but in other places as well especially in SEA.
I do not mind paying more for or tip for what I deem good service though it doesn't always work.
The mention of price on here usually does not mention the relationship with quality or even venue.
Before covid a stunning or even above average lady would ask 3000 short term /6000 long term in a gogo. She would ask and get it all night long. Attractive women get bar fined quite quickly in normal times.
A stunning lady will probably not come down too much from this even in times of covid. You might get 2500 short term and 4000 to 5000 long term if you have some type of a relationship. There are still enough guys on the ground with cash to soak up all the hotties and are prepared to pay for it. Alot of these girls have taken up longer term deals to get them through rather than drop to silly prices.
It is the average girls and below average girls that will see what they can get really drop. These girls will take alot less right now and be thankful for any customers. Before they could ask 2500 short term maybe 5000 long term. Most would take 1500 to 2500 long term now.Yeah pretty much in agreement here. Don't know about covid changes, but price and quality don't mesh in the scene too hard really, at least for the most part, but some stunners may have a larger fee as you said and get it no problem in the top gogos. The issues is a bit of the SE Asia business style where price and quality aren't necessarily aligned, especially for services to non-thais. There's just kinda a price they make up, similar to others in the area, and they hope they can get it and don't change it much no matter if they get customers or not or provide awesome service or not or quality or not.
There's more to say, but some of the best experiences I've had have been with less expensive ones, and some of the worst with more expensive, not even counting some hotties at lower prices and trash charging higher. Hell sometimes a stunner, especially in a shop, pulls out a terrible horrible performance for a fat check. Hell that's a lot more common than we all want to say it is. To each there own and we all have what's more important to us, but ID think in this day, there should have been a price correction, but I guess maybe its not happening.
Which website you had the best luck so far?[Deleted by Admin]
I tired of the farang bar scene well over a decade ago. When my friends and I want to go out for a drink we go to bars with good craft on tap where we are not bothered constantly to buy another drink or by cackling loud girls wanting a drink. Most of us are in relationships so we get plenty of female interaction at the house. Almost all of us have been strictly oilies for well over a decade and the sideline thing actually has been wonderful. You can sit at home, read reviews, look at pictures some quite revealing, and some full action, and then go to a very nice hotel room, do the business, and you're done. And there's no pissing about negotiating prices buying drinks or trying to get to a ST hotel. I can definitely see how this would not appeal to tourists or short-term residence. But for punters who speak at least a little Thai, are willing to put in the time doing the research, and don't mind traveling out to the suburbs, it's a gold mine.
Yeah pretty much in agreement here. Don't know about covid changes, but price and quality don't mesh in the scene too hard really, at least for the most part, but some stunners may have a larger fee as you said and get it no problem in the top gogos. The issues is a bit of the SE Asia business style where price and quality aren't necessarily aligned, especially for services to non-thais. There's just kinda a price they make up, similar to others in the area, and they hope they can get it and don't change it much no matter if they get customers or not or provide awesome service or not or quality or not.
There's more to say, but some of the best experiences I've had have been with less expensive ones, and some of the worst with more expensive, not even counting some hotties at lower prices and trash charging higher. Hell sometimes a stunner, especially in a shop, pulls out a terrible horrible performance for a fat check. Hell that's a lot more common than we all want to say it is. To each there own and we all have what's more important to us, but ID think in this day, there should have been a price correction, but I guess maybe its not happening.There is actually been a huge price correction in the local scene. Girls that were working overseas, local VIP for 5 to 10 K a night and girls that were working pretty massage for 3 or so per session are now working sideline for 1 to 1. 5 k for one shot and 2 to 2. 5 k for two shots. And it seems that the local Thai dudes are now used to this price and are not going to go back to the pretty massage parlors. Girls also will not be able to go overseas as easily. Korea in Japan will be significantly more different for the gals to enter with the only easy place being the Middle East and many don't want to go work there.
But I do think you guys are right, tourist will continue to pay inflated prices as they do everywhere across the world.
GuyBrusg1957
11-22-21, 04:25
Sooo basically what I'm hearing is if I wanted to plan a boys trip for New Years, Thailand is not the move? I've been reading some of the post below and it seems like the nightlife is super dead. Where would anyone recommend to go for New Years if there's nothing going on in Bangkok or Pattaya?
Sebs.Damn, is the is there no hope of a good Christmas or new year party this year?
GuyBrusg1957
11-22-21, 04:45
WW telegram is down, anyone know if they have a new telegram or other contact info?Same, this is one the better non-scammy chanels.
Yes, you are correct. I don't really think the sidelines game is suited to the short-term visitor. I can't stress enough how much time is required doing research. But hey it's kind of fun reading reports and looking at pictures.If it's english, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
Have been reading the recent reports and gotten a few sidelines girl lined up for the next few days in addition to some old contacts. Research is definitely a bit difficult but sometimes it's part of the fun. I've been asking if foreigners are accepted right off the bat and so far have only received one no vs 10 yeses from 13 messages. Haven't had much luck ordering outcall even from the girls with reviews for outcall, seems like that option may only be limited to repeat customers for most of the girls.
FWIW, I've got zero Thai skills, but I'm East Asian so that may be of some help. I've gotten a few addresses and so far, much of the action is pretty far away from Sukhumvit (staying at SGS). Unless I find some real diamonds I don't think I will carry on this attempt through the entire week.
Eequalsmc2
11-22-21, 18:10
WW telegram is down, anyone know if they have a new telegram or other contact info?Ww seems fine on my end I suspect they kicked / banned you from the channel if you can't find it and it disappeared from your list.
My first report on ISG, please excuse any errors or other faux pas.
I've been in Thailand a few weeks now. Here's a brief report. Hopefully you'll find it useful. Happy to answer questions. Will post more days as I finish writing up my notes.
Day 0.
Arrived in BKK. Getting through the airport took 15 minutes via a very efficient two-step process for checking Thai Pass and related paperwork. No mention of the Morchana app or scanning QR codes. I had everything printed out, people trying to pull stuff up on their phone seemed to take a lot longer.
I had to wait about 30 minutes for the taxi to the hotel to show up. They had also cheekily doubled up all solo travellers! We chatted briefly in the taxi, and mentioned both being afraid the other might test positive, and result in us both having to fully quarantine.
Speedy PCR swab test taken at the hotel, and then confined to my room. Felt like a bit of a wasted evening, but I took the opportunity to adjust to the new timezone.
Day 1.
The hotel only got back to me about 11:30 am, although the test paperwork says they got results about 8 am that morning. Apparently there are efforts underway to make this all take even less time, so hopefully will be better for future travellers.
Freedom!
Wood Bar (https://bjbarbangkok.com/) - BJ / 800.
Only 2 ladies on duty. Picked Maya, super slim but older Isaan lady. BJ was a bit toothy, would not repeat. However she was very enthusiastic, took us to a private room and was happy to get naked. Service was with loads of spit and slurping, and made a great show of swallowing the lot at the end. For such a great welcome to Thailand I tipped 200.
Massage place on Sukhumvit Soi 19 - 1 hour oil massage / 600 + 1.9 k for FS+BBBJCIM.
I wanted to visit Mai Chan but no one was available! So instead I went to the massage place next door. Sorry, I didn't make a note of the name!
Saw Pattie. Spinner with a pretty face. She gave a great oil massage, and then I opted to upgrade the service as her body was super fit. Reasonable BJ and great LBFM action with her on top. Finished with CIM. Might revisit.
Taking a stroll around Sukhumvit it certainly felt very quiet compared to normal. A lot of the ladies I spoke with also commented that there were no tourists and little work. They also all asked if I was double vaccinated and with which one.
Day 2.
Analisa Massage (https://www.analisamassage.com/) - 90 minute 4-hand tantra / 3700.
In the mood for something more PSE, I headed over the Analisa Massage. They had some specials on, so I opted for the 90-minute 4-hand tantra, including the gloryhole / milking table!
The mamasan suggested Poppy and Name for this service, and they were an excellent choice! Very friendly and chatty, not super-slim but well proportioned. Poppy was slightly more dominant, often directing Name in the action, which was a huge turn-on.
Shared shower with both ladies gave all of me a good wash, then a relatively good 4-hand massage on the table, with my dangly bits. Dangling through the hole. Allowing for plenty of reach-under action from the pair of now giggling ladies. Poppy then directed Name to get under the table, where she then positioned a mirror so that I could see her and what she was doing with the bit of me dangling through the hole. Poppy continued the normal massage while giving filthier and filthier directions to what Name should be doing underneath. After a very satisfactory conclusion, we switched back to a more normal 4-hand massage again, and then finally a second pop via 4-hand HJ with me the right way up this time. Be aware that Analisa's specializes in prostate play, so be prepared for a cheeky finger!
FL Jip on Sukhumvit Road / ST 2.5 k.
Took a walk along Sukhumvit Road to check out the action there. Not a lot of FLs out though. It's also quite challenging being able to tell how pretty they are facially, as they're all masked up. Ended up taking a slim and short lady named Jip back to my hotel. Negotiated ST but with multiple pops, BBJCIM. Picked up condoms at the 7-11 on the way. Finally in the room, I realized Jip was older than I'the hoped (would guess 30's), but still had a great body and a great attitude. She was also incredibly tight, we had to warm things up a bit but it was a great feeling with her bouncing on top of me. For the enthusiasm and the tiny size, I would take her again, so decided to add her on Line.
Day 3.
7 Heaven (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/) - BJ / 1200 + 300 mirror room.
Decided to try out a more expensive BJ bar. I believe this one is more catered towards Asian tourists rather than Westerners. No FS here, only HJ or BJ. Select the lady from an iPad display. I picked Pui, who looked fantastic. Like a young 20-something, great smile and a fit body with great skin. Opted to pay an extra 300 for the mirror room to get a better view of the action. Now 1200 is a lot for a BJ, and the BJ itself was good, lots of eye contact and no teeth, swallowed at the end, but not PSE slobbery DT by any means. You are definitely paying for the beauty and not the service. That said, I would return again, perhaps to try out the 2-lady + handcuffs option.
Kokoro Massage (https://www.kokorobkk.com/) - 90-minute nuru / 3.5 + 500 VIP.
Decided to try out my first Bangkok nuru massage. Kokoro is one of the several "anime fantasy" places that's popped up. Expensive, but a very different experience. Very upmarket venue, and the ladies inside all appeared to speak excellent English, with a slight American accent. Picked out Mira from the 4 ladies that were free. Got upsold to the "red room" VIP room, which I liked the look of. Had some fetish gear, kiguri chair, nuru mat, bed and jacuzzi.
Mira looked great, another very fit spinner with great skin. The pictures on the website are of course photoshopped but I think are still reasonably accurate. Great playful attitude and was happy to chat along in almost perfect English.
Started off with a shared shower and mutual soaping up, then Mira moved me onto the kuguri / wicket chair and used her pointed tongue to deliver some teasing oral. Mira then slid herself underneath the chair, and used the same pointed tongue to deliver some of the deepest rimming I've ever received. First time for me on such a chair too! My mind was already racing at the thought of having two ladies join me. And so the first pop went into Mira's mouth. Mira grinned at me and swallowed.
By this time the jacuzzi was filled, so we retired there to calm down a bit.
After some playful sliding around in the jacuzzi, we moved on to the main event. The nuru mat! It felt fantastic having Mira's fit body slipping and sliding all over me with the slick nuru gel. Mira used her hands and her mouth all over my back, and she delivered some more deep rimming before flipping me over for more oral. Once fully at the ready, Mira slipped on a condom and rode me cowgirl for awhile. Unfortunately the body was not willing, so Mira washed us off and then suggested I lie down on the bed for some massage. Although our time was running to a close, Mira would not be deterred and, through using her skilled hands and mouth, was able to bring me to release.
A final shower off for us both and Mira helped me dress (I must have looked truly drained!
I asked her if she ever used any of the bondage gear in the room, and she replied coyly "sometimes". I think I will be coming back to this one!
Banana Boi
11-22-21, 21:30
Thanks so much for the review, Thomas.
I had to wait about 30 minutes for the taxi to the hotel to show up. They had also cheekily doubled up all solo travellers! We chatted briefly in the taxi, and mentioned both being afraid the other might test positive, and result in us both having to fully quarantine.I heard this is common. You need to check with the AQ hotel you book with that you will be the only person in the taxi from the airport to the hotel. Some hotels charge extra for this but imo it's worth the extra few hundred baht they will charge you.
Member #4753
11-22-21, 21:33
My first report on ISG, please excuse any errors or other faux pas.
Great post Thomas. Kudos to you.
HorseTrader
11-22-21, 22:19
My first report on ISG, please excuse any errors or other faux pas.
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Kokoro Massage (https://www.kokorobkk.com/) - 90-minute nuru / 3.5 + 500 VIP.
...Picked out Mira from the 4 ladies that were free.Nice error-free report with perfect etiquette!
I especially appreciate the comments about Kokoro, I have not been there but will give it a try next time I'm in town. Seems similar to Doki Doki, which is one of my favorites. I looked at the online pictures and also preferred Mira, love those skinny legs!
My first report on ISG, please excuse any errors or other faux pas.
I've been in Thailand a few weeks now. Here's a brief report. Hopefully you'll find it useful. Happy to answer questions. Will post more days as I finish writing up my notes.
Wood Bar (https://bjbarbangkok.com/) - BJ / 800.
...Service was with loads of spit and slurping, and made a great show of swallowing the lot at the end. For such a great welcome to Thailand I tipped 200.
7 Heaven (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/) - BJ / 1200 + 300 mirror room.
...Now 1200 is a lot for a BJ, and the BJ itself was good, lots of eye contact and no teeth, swallowed at the end, but not PSE slobbery DT by any means. You are definitely paying for the beauty and not the service. That said, I would return again, perhaps to try out the 2-lady + handcuffs option.
Kokoro Massage (https://www.kokorobkk.com/) - 90-minute nuru / 3.5 + 500 VIP.
...And so the first pop went into Mira's mouth. Mira grinned at me and swallowed.
Yes, thanks for the report.
You seem to be getting a lot of unprompted swallowing of your load at the end of the BBBJ+CIMs you're getting in the Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shops. As a big fan of girls swallowing at the end of a blowjob instead of spitting it out I think I can count exactly 1 unprompted swallow at such a shop in Thailand after dozens of visits to many different ones over the years. An aside on the topic, as pleasant a surprise as an unprompted swallow at the end is, the real pleasure in having a girl swallow my load instead of spitting it out at the end of a blowjob is in knowing all during the blowjob that she will swallow it at the end and not spit it out. It increases the pleasure of the experience all throughout the blowjob, not just as a nice but by then somewhat irrelevant coda after the fact. Therefore, I think the girls who do provide a surprise swallow at the end are missing the point of whole thing by not telling the customer upfront that they intend to swallow his load.
Anyway, back to the question I wanted to ask. What's your secret for having all these Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shop girls swallow your load unprompted and without so much as a word about it upfront or them requesting an extra tip for it? Or, for everyone else, is this a new trend in those Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shops that I have missed by not visiting one for at least 2 years?
Member #4753
11-23-21, 02:55
Kokoro Massage (https://www.kokorobkk.com/) - 90-minute nuru / 3.5 + 500 VIP.
Mira then slid herself underneath the chair, and used the same pointed tongue to deliver some of the deepest rimming I've ever received.
Is it just me or would anyone kiss these girls after they have been rimming every guy all day for weeks / months. LOL.
Yes, thanks for the report.
Anyway, back to the question I wanted to ask. What's your secret for having all these Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shop girls swallow your load unprompted and without so much as a word about it upfront or them requesting an extra tip for it? Or, for everyone else, is this a new trend in those Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shops that I have missed by not visiting one for at least 2 years?Yeah, I would like to know too. All the girls I've been seeing are taking more precautions and generously using Listerine.
A lot of girls would rather rim your ass then kiss you on the mouth because that in their mind is considered "too intimate" and saved for the BF.
Is it just me or would anyone kiss these girls after they have been rimming every guy all day for weeks / months. LOL.
ThaiGoodTimes
11-23-21, 03:52
Damn, is the is there no hope of a good Christmas or new year party this year?In Thailand.
Go to Phuket, and Patong or Rawai once there.
They are already alive, legally, as they have far less restrictions than everywhere else in Thailand.
Christmas and New Years will be alive.
Is it just me or would anyone kiss these girls after they have been rimming every guy all day for weeks / months. LOL.LOL. I think that is an occupational hazard for anyone pursuing a life of many multiple new partners whether it's paid for or free. Just be sure they shower, brush their teeth and gargle with mouthwash before you indulge.
I avoid dwelling on it but I always assume every girl I have ever kissed, licked or fucked had someone else's dick and cum in her every orifice as well as her tongue in another man's or a hundred other men's' every orifice right up to mere hours or less before meeting me.
They certainly could have done so. Easily. And their assuring me they have never done this or that or that they have no other men in their life or even that they are a virgin means nothing.
I also assume the women I am with today suspect I have had my dick and tongue in thousands of different vaginas and mouths before theirs. And they would be right. Hehe.
MickeyDuck1208
11-23-21, 05:22
My first report on ISG, please excuse any errors or other faux pas.
I've been in Thailand a few weeks now. Here's a brief report. Hopefully you'll find it useful. Happy to answer questions. Will post more days as I finish writing up my notes.
One of the most informative posts recently. Hope to use the details sometime soon.
Good job!!
First, Tinder or ThaiFriendly will be difficult (but not impossible). Girls will not be interested in someone who is not here / now. They're not really into "planning dates" because they probably have either been stood up or may find someone better in the meantime.
You can start a week before arrival, saying you are in Bangkok already, they will see you as a tangible prospect. (imagine how many men contact these girls from overseas? And what % of these guys are truthful? There are a lot of scammers out there).
Second, Accommodation, I always prefer hotels, because in case of an issue the hotel will help you 100%. If you rent an apartment from AirBnB, you will have a great time until you run into drama with a girl and there the building security (if he's not sleeping) or the Juristic won't be flying to your help but contact the real unit owner.
If you're having Freelancers that you pay for (my guess is that's what you want), always check them in at the reception, for your own safety!! That prevents the girl from putting a roofie in your beverage and cleaning you dry. By the time you wake up, she'll be long gone. Having her check her ID at reception will ensure that when she goes back to collect it, the hotel will call your room to check that you are ok and safe.I have always used AirBNB apartments in Ukraine and Russia but here in Thailand if there is security issue then I am rethinking about using apartments or hotels here.
I was totally safe in apartments in other countries. What you guys prefer? Lets see if majority likes apartments or hotels.
I needed a working kitchen as I will stay for 2 months. Also, for laundry I think most apartments do not have a washing machine within the room. What is the scene about the hotels?
WW telegram is down, anyone know if they have a new telegram or other contact info?It's only blocked on Apple phones I believe. The web interface still works, and you can use a different client as a work-around (can't vouch for the security of it though). This video was posted on the WW telegram chat:
https://youtu.be/HLi-fsTI4CU
Chimpo Chinn
11-23-21, 13:35
Is it just me or would anyone kiss these girls after they have been rimming every guy all day for weeks / months. LOL.Its not you.
Got to be how Hepatitis abcdef is spread.
What's protocol? Clean area with Russian Alcohol before licking?
Lets see if majority likes apartments or hotels.
Hotels, no doubt. Because they are safer, and because renting an apartment can be illegal.
If you're staying for several weeks, you can ask the hotel for a good deal. Book 2 or 3 nights first, see if you like the hotel, and then ask for a deal.
I needed a working kitchen as I will stay for 2 months. Also, for laundry I think most apartments do not have a washing machine within the room. What is the scene about the hotels?
Why do you need a kitchen? Thailand has the best food in the world, according to many people, and in places like Bangkok and Pattaya there is (cheap) food available everywhere you go.
Most hotels can take care of your laundry, but it's usually pricy. Before Covid there used to be many, many cheap laundry shops in Pattaya. And to a lesser extent in Bangkok as well. Now a lot of them are closed, so you have to search and walk a bit more to find one, but they are still there.
.... Thailand has the best food in the world, according to many people....Have these people been to France, Italy, Mexico, Peru.... ?
HorseTrader
11-23-21, 15:36
Having her check her ID at reception will ensure that when she goes back to collect it, the hotel will call your room to check that you are ok and safe.
Lets see if majority likes apartments or hotels.
I needed a working kitchen as I will stay for 2 months.I prefer hotels and the main reason is security. When I check in a girl I always give a substantial tip, maybe 200 baht, that's the person I want to be thinking of me for the next couple of hours. Security also keeps the undesirables away.
A decent hotel will quickly fix any problem you may encounter. Cleanliness. Broken stuff. Missing stuff. More towels, girl toothbrushes, soap.
As others have pointed out, food is easily available, unless you have special dietary needs. Laundries are scattered everywhere, Google maps helps find some. They might be located in lowest levels of big buildings or right out on the streets. Sometimes they are combined with other businesses such as small bars, beauty shops, or tour agencies (look for small signs on the small sois). The price of laundry is so cheap that you will never want to do your laundry again. Nicely ironed and folded. Often they want to finish the next day, but morning drop off and nice request will usually result in same day delivery.
Have these people been to France, Italy, Mexico, Peru.... ?Or Malaysia. All great food destinations.
Yeah, I would like to know too. All the girls I've been seeing are taking more precautions and generously using Listerine.Well, several other posters apparently found nothing extraordinary or worthy of comment about a new punter on the Thai scene getting unprompted BBBJ+CIM+Swallow without hesitation or pre discussion, small tip optional if inclined afterwards, from 3 different girls in 3 different shops in his first 3 days in town and presumably will be acting on that info as soon as they arrive here or can get around to it.
So I guess you and I are the only ones missing out on this terrific new level of full and complete blowjob service easily and routinely available and delivered pretty much everywhere in Bangkok now.
I have no reason to doubt for one minute that he was telling the truth about it. But I hope he can tell us what the magic words or demeanor are that makes this happen so easily and often for him and that it isn't something like he is 20 years old and looks exactly like the latest Thai dreamboat movie super star, which won't help me in the least.
Yes, thanks for the report.
You seem to be getting a lot of unprompted swallowing of your load at the end of the BBBJ+CIMs you're getting in the Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shops. As a big fan of girls swallowing at the end of a blowjob instead of spitting it out I think I can count exactly 1 unprompted swallow at such a shop in Thailand after dozens of visits to many different ones over the years. An aside on the topic, as pleasant a surprise as an unprompted swallow at the end is, the real pleasure in having a girl swallow my load instead of spitting it out at the end of a blowjob is in knowing all during the blowjob that she will swallow it at the end and not spit it out. It increases the pleasure of the experience all throughout the blowjob, not just as a nice but by then somewhat irrelevant coda after the fact. Therefore, I think the girls who do provide a surprise swallow at the end are missing the point of whole thing by not telling the customer upfront that they intend to swallow his load.
Anyway, back to the question I wanted to ask. What's your secret for having all these Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shop girls swallow your load unprompted and without so much as a word about it upfront or them requesting an extra tip for it? Or, for everyone else, is this a new trend in those Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shops that I have missed by not visiting one for at least 2 years?Huh, maybe its me, but generally BJ bars swallow for me, and I'd say most of the time at shops, but not quite as much as BJ bars. For BJ bars its the opposite in that I'm surprised if they don't swallow, always kinda figured that's a service that is just expected there, maybe I'm special. Shops usually do for me too. Who knows?
Also, I think I have like a 90% rate if I just ask them to swallow as well, no matter the spot, most girls will just deal with it, but unprompted, they do most of the time for me anyways.
The fuck if I know, lol.
Member #4753
11-24-21, 01:48
Also, I think I have like a 90% rate if I just ask them to swallow as well, no matter the spot, most girls will just deal with it, but unprompted, they do most of the time for me anyways.I agree, most (75%) will swallow it if asked. Even if they grimmace afterwards. LOL I like alot of repeats, once I see a girl 3 or more times the rate would go to 99%. In times of covid once you see any girl more than 3 times they will do basically anything really.
I agree, most (75%) will swallow it if asked. Even if they grimmace afterwards. LOL I like alot of repeats, once I see a girl 3 or more times the rate would go to 99%. In times of covid once you see any girl more than 3 times they will do basically anything really.Then it must only be me and a tiny few other sad souls around here. I have found unprompted BBFS+CIP as a new or repeat customer with any Thai hooker to be vastly more common and, if asked for, even more common than a Thai girl swallowing my load at the end of a BJ.
And, frankly, this is the first week in the past several years of my living in Thailand, my decades before visiting here and years reading these forums where the description of the standard and expected service in Thai BJ Bars and Happy Ending shops ought to more accurately be described as BBBJ+CIM+Swallow and not merely BBBJ+CIM.
In the Philippines, yes, that was standard for me and I presume others back in the day.
But in Thailand my experience has been Thai girls are more willing to give up their virginity than Swallow a man's load.
Turns out it happens almost all the time for everyone except me in places like Lolitas, Kasalong, Wood Bar and so on as a matter of routine standard and expected BJ service. And all those Thai girls discretely and sometimes not so discretely pushing the cum out of their mouth into a tissue or walking closed mouth to spit it out in the nearest sink or toilet were short changing me on the standard service.
Live and learn I guess.
Have these people been to France, Italy, Mexico, Peru.... ?OK, let me rephrase that. Thailand is one of the best food destinations in the world.
There are many surveys to be found on the internet, with different outcomes, but Thailand is often listed.
Have these people been to France, Italy, Mexico, Peru.... ?Actually, one does not need to go to France. Pattaya used to have some decent French restaurants before Covid.
Have these people been to France, Italy, Mexico, Peru.... ?Food is about taste for the real foodie. When MogWai meant the best food in the world, I am sure he meant it in terms of cost and taste. The Asian food that includes tastes like Sour, sweet, bitter, tangy, spicy and savoury all served in 1 plate itself, the street food.
I have seen many youtube videos about the street food today to check this statement. I was surprised by the sheer number of items available in the street food. Even the 7-Eleven stores have more items than a french or Italian restaurant, if you exclude the same type of dish but with different sauce or style in the French or Italian menu.
Also, besides everything, it is all about one's taste and liking. I am always attracted to the Asian food.
I needed the kitchen just for making omlette and rice but yea Mogwai is right, everything is available on the street. You just need to arrive there with money!
Unlike in Ukraine or Russia where I had to invest a lot of time to find something new and better in food in my long stays.
Day 0, landed late, boarding flight to BKK from ICN a pain but screening at BKK a breeze. Picked up SIM after luggage pick up and before customs. Staying at Sheraton Grande, picked up from airport straight to hospital for arrival Covid test, then straight to check in. Hotel is nice but seems a bit old and dated, have gold with Marriott and got a "premium room" but not sure I'll stay here again unless there's another amazing rate. Fired up Tinder TF WeChat Line and started pinging old contacts.
Day 1, negative result early next morning. Walked around Asoke for a bit and checked out Doki Doki at 2 pm, 3 girls all better quality than what was available last time I was here in early 2020. Picked a young spinner named Spy (or something like that). Not much English but she was enthusiastic. Standard nuru, she was open to rimming but I'm personally not a fan. Only 1 round since I was still a bit tired. 3. 5 k for 90 minutes. Planning to check out Dream and maybe Mitu as well. Lined up a Filipino mixed girl from Tinder for the evening. Quoted 3 k for ST but agreed to 2 k. She spoke very good English and modeled a bit before Covid. Pretty face with European features, natural DS and an ass like a Brazilian. However she was shy and seemed new, didn't click so I ended up leaving after the first round and some chit chat. Walked over to Cowboy, totally dead. Wandered over to Thermae, didn't even see many FLs, none doable, decided to call it a day.
Day 2, did some research into sidelines with info from other seniors in the thread and reached out to a few agencies / girls. Most accept foreigners but would only do incall. First attempt was with an agency girl at a hotel a few blocks north of Asok for the afternoon. The room was tiny and the girl didn't speak much English. The girl was the one in the pictures but not as good looking, I expected that based on past experiences with similar set up in Asia and States. Service was so so, went for two rounds in 90 minutes, damage 2. 2 k, won't repeat. Second attempt was with an independent on Sideline in the evening. Much better experience, pictures accurate, amazing slim thick body, passable English, friendly, and a bit of a freak. 3. 5 k for 2 rounds in 2 hours but ended up staying for almost 3.
Day 3, PG activities in the morning and afternoon, tourism spots are actually enjoyable without massive crowds, so that was a plus. In the evening called the indy girl from Day 2 out to my hotel for LT. She showed up in an open top and attracted way too much attention. Stayed from about 6 pm to 8 next morning. Multiple rounds all around the room, with her taking pictures and videos. Total damage was 10 k, but no farang (? Not sure if I qualify as I'm Asian American) tax as that was also the price listed on her page. Probably the best experience in the hobby I've had since 3 some nuru in Tokyo.
Have got a few old contacts from past trips lined up for the next few days for LT. Will continue to try Sidelines. Also planning on checking out Nana. Will be heading to Pattaya on Sunday for 4 days. Tried to cancel since recent reports paint a grim picture but Hilton was only willing to shave off 1 day from the booking, here's to hoping things pick up.
I prefer hotels and the main reason is security. When I check in a girl I always give a substantial tip, maybe 200 baht, that's the person I want to be thinking of me for the next couple of hours. Security also keeps the undesirables away.
A decent hotel will quickly fix any problem you may encounter. Cleanliness. Broken stuff. Missing stuff. More towels, girl toothbrushes, soap.
As others have pointed out, food is easily available, unless you have special dietary needs. Laundries are scattered everywhere, Google maps helps find some. They might be located in lowest levels of big buildings or right out on the streets. Sometimes they are combined with other businesses such as small bars, beauty shops, or tour agencies (look for small signs on the small sois). The price of laundry is so cheap that you will never want to do your laundry again. Nicely ironed and folded. Often they want to finish the next day, but morning drop off and nice request will usually result in same day delivery.Thanks for the tips HorseTrader and Mogwai. Hotel is final for me now.
BTW if you are visiting Ukraine then the best thing is AirBNB as it is super safe country. You do not get cheated. Once my driver was trying to get a cop from the street to squeeze some cash out of me and the cop replied "I cannot do it, he is a tourist and we should never do this type of things to tourists." in a scolding manner and a finger saying strictly no no. I came to know all of this as I knew little bit of Russian language but never told the driver about it.
Chimpo Chinn
11-24-21, 13:43
Food is about taste for the real foodie. When MogWai meant the best food in the world, I am sure he meant it in terms of cost and taste. The Asian food that includes tastes like Sour, sweet, bitter, tangy, spicy and savoury all served in 1 plate itself, the street food.
I have seen many youtube videos about the street food today to check this statement. I was surprised by the sheer number of items available in the street food. Even the 7-Eleven stores have more items than a french or Italian restaurant, if you exclude the same type of dish but with different sauce or style in the French or Italian menu.
Also, besides everything, it is all about one's taste and liking. I am always attracted to the Asian food.
I needed the kitchen just for making omlette and rice but yea Mogwai is right, everything is available on the street. You just need to arrive there with money!
Unlike in Ukraine or Russia where I had to invest a lot of time to find something new and better in food in my long stays.Thai Street food is cheap. Other than that. Nothing burger. Youtubers tout street food for Clicks. I bet they eat indoors the rest of the time.
No one goes to Thailand for For Food or Temples, You can enjoy whatever they offer but they are not the reason to go to Thailand. Sorry but its the Girls of the Bar, or more generally the Party atmosphere.
I needed the kitchen just for making omlette and rice but yea Mogwai is right, everything is available on the street. You just need to arrive there with money!
Maybe the condo's in the View Talay 6 building are an option for you. They often have a kitchen(ette).
http://www.honeyscoffeehouse.com
Go to: VIEW TALAY 6 CONDO RENTALS.
I've never stayed there myself, but it usually gets good reviews here, and the location is great.
Or you can do a search for hotels with cooking facilities on Booking.com for example. Although I'm afraid that is quite often just a microwave.
Actually, one does not need to go to France. Pattaya used to have some decent French restaurants before Covid.I suppose its a matter of personal taste. The best French food I have had has been in France with special mention of Montreal.
Day 4.
Duangporn's Haven Blowjob Bar (6/12 Sukhumvit) - 30 minute BJ / 800.
I went looking for Lolita's, which seemed closed, and also checked Kasalong next door, which also appeared to be closed.
I had originally been trying to find "Sensual Massage", which I think actually used to be another branch of Analisa's. However, I ended up stumbling into this place. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either.
Several ladies sitting outside, unfortunately only one of them was vaguely good looking. Selected the best looking one, and she led me inside and up the stairs. Pretty grim, dark room with a sink and a sofa. Believe the lady called herself "Lei". She put a towel down on the sofa, and washed my bits off in the sink. What followed was actually pretty decent DT action. Lots of spit and drool, and almost managed to take everything inside. While I was enjoying the action, the surroundings really weren't working for me, so I finished off with an enjoyable CIM. Washed off again at the sink, and then he got out of there quickly. Wouldn't return.
Tulip Massage (BTS Thonglor) - 60 minute massage + FS / 400 + 1500.
I remembered Tulip's fondly from my first trip to Bangkok many years ago, so I decided to visit again. It's well known as it's been around a long time. Unfortunately, it also looks like it. I asked for a 60 minute oil massage, and the mamasan summoned the only available lady for me.
The lady introduced herself as Naan. Not a stunner by any means, but still cute and petite. Definitely much prettier than the room, unfortunately! I must be getting very fussy as I get older. Naan showered me off, making sure to clean my behind extra thoroughly.
What followed was a passable oil massage, flipped over for BJ and then some extra deep rimming. Naan really didn't hold back! On with the condom and then some cowgirl. I requested anal, and Naan obliged although asked if we could do it doggystyle. She was very tight, so I did not last long. Requested a CIM finish, which she obliged happily.
I'm happy I visited Tulip's again, but I don't think I will be returning.
Analisa Massage (https://www.analisamassage.com/) - 60 minute massage + FS / 2000.
I wandered back past Lolita's and Kasalong to see if they were still closed, and it seems they are! Not sure if this is a permanent thing or just due to the current circumstances.
Found myself back outside Analisa's, so thought I'd try FS with one of the ladies.
The mamasan said only one lady would be available for FS. I get the impression most only do massage + HJ, or maybe it's just because it was quite late in the evening by then.
The lady introduced herself as Lattaya; not ugly by any means, but I would gauge in her late 30's or maybe even early 40's. Lattaya was a very skilled masseuse, but I would say she is a little "touched". Talked quite a lot, albeit in a very friendly and often witty way. I can imagine 10 years ago she'd have been a real hit at a hostess bar or similar. After the massage, she rode me enthusiastically in Asian cowgirl.
A very enjoyable finish, and despite being older, the service was enough to make me consider returning.
If you look at "Rad" on https://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/ladies I believe that was her, but about 10 years ago!
Day 5.
Mai Chan (https://asok-massage.com/) - 90 minute oil massage + FS / 2400.
Another old favourite of mine I'd wanted to revisit. Given away by the name and the Japanese text on the signage, Mai Chan is Japanese style erotic massage parlour.
Removed my shoes on entering in favour of sandals, while the receptionist brought over a book for me to select the service and the lady I wanted. Apparently the only two ladies available were "Yam" and the receptionist herself! The receptionist was "OK" (I believe she may be Shinpuu on the website), so I opted for Yam. The photos of her in the book and on the website are a good likeness.
Yam was short, petite, with fair skin. She provided a reasonable massage, and a great "Japanese girlfriend" experience: BBBJ and cowgirl to completion, then some cuddles and more massage. Light kissing only throughout, unfortunately.
I would consider returning only if already in the area.
7 Heaven (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/) - BJ / 1300 + 500 naked.
Decided to try 7 Heaven again, since most other BJ bars seemed closed!
(The price has either risen to 1300, or I made an error in my notes previously!
I opted for "Orange" this time, based on her pictures on the iPad she looked super cute. I wanted to see her naked (+500) so decided against spending more for the mysterious handcuffs option. Just as well!
While Orange is incredibly pretty, she gave one of the most toothy BJs I've had in some time. I had to stop her eventually and request that she finish me off by hand.
While the sight of her glazed chest was indeed most pleasing, I felt the price a bit dear for the overall experience. I'm not sure I will return to this one, unless I get better intel on the abilities of the staff!
FL (not!) Jip on Sukhumvit Road / ST 2 k.
As I strolled along Sukhumvit Road a petite little thing darted out of a corner and grabbed my hand. I completely thought they were Jip (my previous FL), so we walked back together to my hotel. It was only during our talk in broken Thai / English that I realized that they were not Jip! Just someone who looked a lot like her. Oh well, guess we'll see how this goes.
Not Jip was unfortunately a bit of a disappointment. A "mummy tummy" covered with a tattoo. Reasonable BJ and happy to go at it in cowgirl for a good while, but I eventually turned her out after less than an hour, as it wasn't working out for me. Paid her 2 k, which she seemed very happy with.
When everyone has dark brown eyes, telling folks apart with a great big mask covering the rest of their face is quite tricky!
FL Jip via Line / ST 2 k.
Now I had Jip on my mind, so after a quick shower and swim in the hotel pool, I messaged her on Line. She was in my room within 30 minutes, and I was able to successfully complete the previous encounter, now that I had the right girl! Jip only asked 2 k this time, and honestly just seemed very happy to use the shower and brush her teeth using the hotel supplies.
Anyway, back to the question I wanted to ask. What's your secret for having all these Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shop girls swallow your load unprompted and without so much as a word about it upfront or them requesting an extra tip for it? Or, for everyone else, is this a new trend in those Thai Blowjob Bar / Happy Ending shops that I have missed by not visiting one for at least 2 years?I am as mystified as you are. I remember swallow being a rare thing the first time I was over here too. While I doubt my looks have improved with age (I have not drunk any alcohol since being over here, and have instead been drinking only pineapple juice. I shall ask my next swallower why she was happy to comply, and report back.
Day 0, landed late, boarding flight to BKK from ICN a pain but screening at BKK a breeze. Picked up SIM after luggage pick up and before customs. Staying at Sheraton Grande, picked up from airport straight to hospital for arrival Covid test, then straight to check in. Hotel is nice but seems a bit old and dated, have gold with Marriott and got a "premium room" but not sure I'll stay here again unless there's another amazing rate. Fired up Tinder TF WeChat Line and started pinging old contacts.
Day 1, negative result early next morning. Walked around Asoke for a bit and checked out Doki Doki at 2 pm, 3 girls all better quality than what was available last time I was here in early 2020. Picked a young spinner named Spy (or something like that). Not much English but she was enthusiastic. Standard nuru, she was open to rimming but I'm personally not a fan. Only 1 round since I was still a bit tired. 3.5 k for 90 minutes. Planning to check out Dream and maybe Mitu as well. Lined up a Filipino mixed girl from Tinder for the evening. Quoted 3 k for ST but agreed to 2 k. She spoke very good English and modeled a bit before Covid. Pretty face with European features, natural DS and an ass like a Brazilian. However she was shy and seemed new, didn't click so I ended up leaving after the first round and some chit chat. Walked over to Cowboy, totally dead. Wandered over to Thermae, didn't even see many FLs, none doable, decided to call it a day.
Day 2, did some research into sidelines with info from other seniors in the thread and reached out to a few agencies / girls. Most accept foreigners but would only do incall. First attempt was with an agency girl at a hotel a few blocks north of Asok for the afternoon. The room was tiny and the girl didn't speak much English. The girl was the one in the pictures but not as good looking, I expected that based on past experiences with similar set up in Asia and States. Service was so so, went for two rounds in 90 minutes, damage 2.2 k, won't repeat. Second attempt was with an independent on Sideline in the evening. Much better experience, pictures accurate, amazing slim thick body, passable English, friendly, and a bit of a freak. 3.5 k for 2 rounds in 2 hours but ended up staying for almost 3..Thanks for the report Aster14! Nice to know I'm not running around on my own here.
I am very jealous of your indy girl experience. I'm afraid I've not had much luck in Tinder or TF.
I will give more details in my next report, but here's some intel you may find useful:
Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae all appear pretty dead, or very slim pickings. I saw some action in the little warren of soi's on the opposite side of Sukhumvit from Nana Plaza though, but felt the risk of covid was too much to linger.
Doki Doki I found sub-par for nuru. However if you do go again, pick Champaign. Not for the nuru, but she has some great kegals! I have her Line and am attempting to persuade her to come to my hotel to practice the art of pompoir.
I can highly recommend Mitsu; have done one solo session, which was probably my best nuru experience so far, as well as their "two lady, hentai lesbian" package. The girls were fully interactive with each other, and I had a great time watching them between rounds. I will likely work my way through their whole roster at this rate. The cost is dependent on what rank of lady you pick (S, O, A or P). At the end of your session you rate your lady. I believe this then helps determine their SOAP ranking.
Good luck with the Sidelines. I have also done some investigation into this, but it feels like more trouble than it's worth. Perhaps if I get bored. I had originally planned to fly to Ko Samui, but the weather and reports of lack of action there have made me consider remaining in Bangkok for now.
Enjoy!
I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.
Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near Sukhumvit Soi's so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.
“I wandered back past Lolita's and Kasalong to see if they were still closed, and it seems they are! Not sure if this is a permanent thing or just due to the current circumstances.”
If you look back a few pages, you will see my comments regarding the owner of Lolita's reportedly committing suicide a few weeks ago. That's all I know and was told this by a farang who spends most of his time in Bangkok. I don't know about the other place around the corner from there and not certain it was owned by the same people.
CockaSaurus
11-25-21, 00:50
Thai Street food is cheap. Other than that. Nothing burger. Youtubers tout street food for Clicks. I bet they eat indoors the rest of the time.
No one goes to Thailand for For Food or Temples, You can enjoy whatever they offer but they are not the reason to go to Thailand. Sorry but its the Girls of the Bar, or more generally the Party atmosphere.I go to Thailand for the food, is it the only reason? It is not but it is a huge part of it.
Weird thing is I don't even like Thai food.
Dion Cassius
11-25-21, 00:57
I can highly recommend Mitsu; have done one solo session, which was probably my best nuru experience so far, as well as their "two lady, hentai lesbian" package. The girls were fully interactive with each other, and I had a great time watching them between rounds. I will likely work my way through their whole roster at this rate. The cost is dependent on what rank of lady you pick (S, O, A or P). At the end of your session you rate your lady. I believe this then helps determine their SOAP ranking.Just to be sure, Is it Mitu or Mitsu? There is massage place called Mitu not very far away from Soi Cowboy.
Member #4753
11-25-21, 01:13
Day 4. Mai Chan (https://asok-massage.com/) - 90 minute oil massage + FS / 2400.
Another old favourite of mine I'd wanted to revisit. Given away by the name and the Japanese text on the signage, Mai Chan is Japanese style erotic massage parlour.
Another great report. I walked past this place alot pre covid. The girls used to hang around on Soi 19 and would be all over you like a cheap suit. Usually not a great sign as most good places don't need to do this. However, their website looks interesting with some very cute girls if they still work there. I might drop in and see what is there.
http://mitubangkok.com/ This is worth trying, it has "Soap" writtin on the wall rather than Mitu which could be confusing.
Excellent reports, make the forum worth reading for these little nuggets.
Member #4753
11-25-21, 01:20
Just to be sure, Is it Mitu or Mitsu? There is massage place called Mitu not very far away from Soi Cowboy.It has to be http://mitubangkok.com/ , as there is a big SOAP writtin on the wall. And yes, it is in the second Soi 23, cowboy being off the first Soi 23.
As an aside does anyone know why there are 2 X soi 23's? LOL.
Member #4753
11-25-21, 01:56
7 Heaven (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/) - BJ / 1300 + 500 naked.
Decided to try 7 Heaven again, since most other BJ bars seemed closed!
I have never been to a BJ bar. Is full service ever on the option?
Thanks for the report Aster14! Nice to know I'm not running around on my own here.
I am very jealous of your indy girl experience. I'm afraid I've not had much luck in Tinder or TF.
I will give more details in my next report, but here's some intel you may find useful:
Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae all appear pretty dead, or very slim pickings. I saw some action in the little warren of soi's on the opposite side of Sukhumvit from Nana Plaza though, but felt the risk of covid was too much to linger..If the little warren you mentioned is the collection of bars on Soi 7 that has been posted about here lately, it has been my observation that when the entrance of the still closed Thermae on Sukhumvit near Soi 15 is dead or only has a small group of girls around, it is because some of those missing can be found in or near those Soi 7 bars. And vise versa. When customers in those Soi 7 bars are few, there is almost always a greater number of girls hanging out in front of Thermae.
HorseTrader
11-25-21, 03:24
I have never been to a BJ bar. Is full service ever on the option?Yes, but typically the BJ services are provided on a chair or sofa, not a great situation for full service. At least some BJ bars have rooms with beds upstairs.
NicFrenchy
11-25-21, 04:39
Yes, but typically the BJ services are provided on a chair or sofa, not a great situation for full service. At least some BJ bars have rooms with beds upstairs.Never had a problem having sex on the sofa at Lolitas. Obviously you can't do the full Kama Sutra but it's manageable.
Never had a problem having sex on the sofa at Lolitas. Obviously you can't do the full Kama Sutra but it's manageable.I agree! Sex on the sofa can be fun. Generally the quality of the sex depends more on the girl than the location.
HorseTrader
11-25-21, 07:28
Never had a problem having sex on the sofa at Lolitas. Obviously you can't do the full Kama Sutra but it's manageable.I've also done it, but it's a struggle at my advanced age. Did the same thing at one of the places on Soi 7/1 where they had a tiny room with a big cushioned arm chair (that was more difficult than the curtained-off sofas at Lolitas).
I'm too old for that stuff. Everything works much better in my hotel room.
NicFrenchy
11-25-21, 08:59
Everything works much better in my hotel room.Of course, but then it's not a blowjob bar adventure anymore. Oh, the Sofas of SOL. That was the thrill.
Got a massage and a blowjob from a girl at one of the shops on Soi 23.25 yo, from Isan, maybe with a bit of Chinese mixed in. She used Listerine before the deed. Burnt pretty intensely but she still caught the nut. She claims it was the spicy food she had earlier. My money is on the Listerine. The upside: I'm learning to appreciate blowjobs. The downside: the CIP-ster in me will not be getting any action tonight. Oh well, tomorrow is another day.
Chimpo Chinn
11-26-21, 16:21
One tiny step forward. Easier arrival test.
Will it make a difference, I doubt it.
I'd pay $1,000 arrival fee if they got rid of Paperwork. Kapisch.
Set me Free. I'm Rich but a Sex tourist. Thai can't have it all.
Day 6.
Wood Bar (https://bjbarbangkok.com/) - BJ + FS / 800 + 1500.
Decided to take a walk along past Wood Bar again, more out of curiosity than anything. Ended up getting pulled in by a young looking spinner named Tye. Initially went just for the BJ service but couldn't resist once she had all her clothes off in the room, so upgraded to FS. BBBJ was OK, not deep, but satisfyingly sloppy. Tye's slim body riding me to completion was definitely a highlight though! Only light kissing, but Tye was the prettiest one I've been with on my trip so far. Got her line so I can check when she's working again. Didn't see anyone else who looked interesting enough at the bar, or at any of the other venues along that alley.
Mitu / Soap(http://mitubangkok.com/) - 90 minute nuru / 4700.
I had originally wanted to try Doki Doki for nuru, but they were very busy! Queue of gents in the waiting room when I arrived, and a rather brusque receptionist, so I decided to leave.
Headed on over to Mitu / Soap instead, another nuru place. This was an excellent idea!
While Doki Doki seems more geared to Westerners, Mitu / SOAP seems to be designed to appeal to the Japanese customers. Their website doesn't list any models or prices, but you can contact them on WeChat or Line to get the details. They operate a tiered system:
Model New - 2300.
Model S - 2600.
Model O - 3900.
Model A - 4700.
Model P - 6000.
On arrival, the sweet receptionist sat me down with their iPad to view the models available, and explained the tier system. FFM and FFFM options are also available, cost dependent on which models were selected. I asked if it was possible to see a line up, so the receptionist called the girls out. I would say the photos were not too heavily touched up based on what I saw. Selected Pero (a model A) as I liked the look of her face. While Pero departed to get ready, the receptionist provided me with a damp cloth and a Japanese energy drink. A nice touch!
The nuru room we used was essentially a very large shower room, with a strategic mirror on one wall, and a nuru mattress. My main complaints about the room are that the lighting is terrible! Other than that, quite suitable for the activities to take place.
Pero herself was fantastic. Very slim, lithe body, with a very sensual approach. Reasonable grasp of English, enough for some flirty chat. I was soaped up, showered off, sucked to attention, and then smothered in nuru gel while lying on the mattress. It was quite the show watching Pero glide all over me in the mirror. More BBBJ, rimming, light kissing, and then magically Pero had a condom on and was lowering herself down on me. Great fun having sex in cowgirl with both of us covered in nuru gel and sliding on the mat! We went slightly over time (with the countdown timer blaring a bit annoyingly) but Pero was adamant that I had a good time. Then we showered off the gel and got dressed.
Once back at reception, I was asked to complete a survey about the service I received. I am guessing this is how they calculate the rating for the girls. Was given a selection of Japanese snacks as a parting gift.
I will return!
Day 7.
Momo Massage (http://momothonglor.com/) - 90 minutes massage + FS / 2500.
Another Japanese orientated establishment. Just step off the BTS and you're there. The receptionist offered a book with photos (as you see on the website), but I asked for a lineup. The girls all wear a Japanese-esque office uniform, which is quite cute. In keeping with the theme, I picked the most Japanese-looking one: Yoko.
Yoko looks much cuter in person than in her photos. I suspect some Japanese heritage, as her gorgeous oval eyes had only a single eyelid each, as opposed to the usual more Thai or Western eyes. Very slim body, with beautiful pale skin. I believe most girls at Momo will be paler than average, as the Japanese tend to favour them over the darker skinned sisters.
What followed was what I guess you'd call "Japanese GFE". In the room Yoko was both shy and playful. Reasonable grasp of English and Japanese, but I kept using terrible Thai pickup lines on her, as they'd make her gasp and feign being embarrassed. I think a highlight for me was when she glanced over her shoulder and caught me watching her in the shower. I believe she genuinely blushed and giggled there, or is a very good actress.
Once Yoko had washed and dried me, so gave a reasonable BBBJ. No DT here though. Once the condom was applied, lots of DFK in missionary, and then we switched to Asian cowgirl, with Yoko actually getting a bit of a flush from the exertion, which was enough to put me over the edge.
A note about condoms: If you don't already, bring your own! The ones supplied at Momo were painfully small for my (what I've always thought of as "average") size.
I will return!
Bangkok Milking Table outcall (https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/) - 2 hour duo / 5000.
Wanting to have something exciting back in my hotel room, and having enjoyed the milking table concept at Analisa's, I decided to give this a try. Big mistake! I'm afraid I don't recall which two ladies were selected (I asked for advice on the phone), but two of the roughest looking women I've ever seen in Thailand showed up. The service was rushed and very un-sensual. The table itself was fantastic, and with the right pair of women I think it would be amazing. But with these two, it was not enjoyable at all. I ended the session after an hour, as I just wanted them out. They were kind enough to give me a partial refund, but I'm afraid I can't recommend this service.
Avoid this one.
Some observations after 7 days here:
Activity in the soi's seems to be getting busier than when I arrived, but still very quiet compared to the last time I was here some years ago.
Much busier on Friday and Saturday nights. Would say triple the amount of FLs along Sukhumvit Road on Friday night compared to other nights.
A common question the FL ladies ask you is if you are vaccinated, one or two times, and which vaccine.
After 11 pm there's no alcohol being sold ("officially") and most places close down. I've seen Thai police taking a slow cruise along the busier streets at 11 pm to check.
Of course, you can still see many people drinking from coffee mugs or soft drink cups after 11 pm.
Nana plaza is still all closed off, there are some FLs across the way in the car park till, but didn't see much interest.
Most of the Nana FLs appear to have moved to the warren of soi's across the bridge over Sukhumvit. I did see some fit ones, but it's difficult to tell with the mask on if they're worth going for.
Almost all venues (malls, hotels, BTS, etc.) will have a guard and a temperature check at the entrance. If your temp is too high, you will be refused access.
Apparently there is a new law saying that you cannot advertise prices online, so some places you have to contact them directly to obtain prices.
Banana Boi
11-26-21, 19:59
Bangkok Milking Table outcall (https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/) - 2 hour duo / 5000.
Wanting to have something exciting back in my hotel room, and having enjoyed the milking table concept at Analisa's, I decided to give this a try. Big mistake! I'm afraid I don't recall which two ladies were selected (I asked for advice on the phone), but two of the roughest looking women I've ever seen in Thailand showed up. The service was rushed and very un-sensual. The table itself was fantastic, and with the right pair of women I think it would be amazing. But with these two, it was not enjoyable at all. I ended the session after an hour, as I just wanted them out. They were kind enough to give me a partial refund, but I'm afraid I can't recommend this service.
Avoid this one.Didn't even know they had Milking tables in Thailand. I understand the poor rushed service but do looks really matter because you don't actually see the girls while you are on the milking table, do you?
Checked out the site. Guys can webcam through Line with any 2 girls they want for 1500 per hour. You instruct the girls what you want them to do. Not a bad price only if the girls are hot and you're stuck in a non-sex country.
A common question the FL ladies ask you is if you are vaccinated, one or two times, and which vaccine.
Wouldn't anti-vaxxers just tell girls they are vaccinated twice with Pfizer?
Hello all,
I'm arriving next week to BKK.
First trip to Thailand after pandemic.
I am on the search for Airbnb or hotel that's guest friendly.
I don't want any hassle with vaccine certificates or only one guest in all the stay and all that bullshit.
Any first hand info from the ground is appreciated.
Thanks!
CockaSaurus
11-26-21, 20:45
Day 6.
Wood Bar (https://bjbarbangkok.com/) - BJ + FS / 800 + 1500.
Decided to take a walk along past Wood Bar again, more out of curiosity than anything. Ended up getting pulled in by a young looking spinner named Tye. Initially went just for the BJ service but couldn't resist once she had all her clothes off in the room, so upgraded to FS. BBBJ was OK, not deep, but satisfyingly sloppy. Tye's slim body riding me to completion was definitely a highlight though! Only light kissing, but Tye was the prettiest one I've been with on my trip so far. Got her line so I can check when she's working again. Didn't see anyone else who looked interesting enough at the bar, or at any of the other venues along that alley.
Mitu / Soap(http://mitubangkok.com/) - 90 minute nuru / 4700.
I had originally wanted to try Doki Doki for nuru, but they were very busy! Queue of gents in the waiting room when I arrived, and a rather brusque receptionist, so I decided to leave.
Headed on over to Mitu / Soap instead, another nuru place. This was an excellent idea!
While Doki Doki seems more geared to Westerners, Mitu / SOAP seems to be designed to appeal to the Japanese customers. Their website doesn't list any models or prices, but you can contact them on WeChat or Line to get the details. They operate a tiered system:.Thanks for your reports, this one and the previous even though they are making me miss BKK even more than I already do. 7 Heaven, Kokoro, and Momo were all places I read back since I last been there and definitely some of the first places I will visit next time I'm in BKK.
Enjoy the rest of your trip and keep the reports coming if you can.
A common question the FL ladies ask you is if you are vaccinated, one or two times, and which vaccine.
SNIP
Almost all venues (malls, hotels, BTS, etc.) will have a guard and a temperature check at the entrance. If your temp is too high, you will be refused access.
I have had about a dozen FL's during my holiday, but only one of them asked if I was vaccinated. They were all from Thai Friendly by the way, so not from the streets, but I don't think that makes any difference.
Many places have a temperature check at the entrance, sometimes combined with registration, but I often ignored it and just walked on, and nobody has ever stopped me.
And my hotel (Aloft in Soi 11) didn't ask the girls for anything. Not their vaccination status, and not even their ID.
It's a lot of hassle to get to Thailand, but once you're there it's all pretty relaxed.
Bangkok Milking Table outcall (https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/) - 2 hour duo / 5000.
Wanting to have something exciting back in my hotel room, and having enjoyed the milking table concept at Analisa's, I decided to give this a try. Big mistake! I'm afraid I don't recall which two ladies were selected (I asked for advice on the phone), but two of the roughest looking women I've ever seen in Thailand showed up. The service was rushed and very un-sensual. The table itself was fantastic, and with the right pair of women I think it would be amazing. But with these two, it was not enjoyable at all. I ended the session after an hour, as I just wanted them out. They were kind enough to give me a partial refund, but I'm afraid I can't recommend this service.
Avoid this one.That's a shame, I had a similar experience a few years back so I won't be back.
Still, you are giving me ideas for my next trip, wheels up in three weeks.
Member #4753
11-27-21, 11:04
Day 6.
Wood Bar (https://bjbarbangkok.com/) - BJ + FS / 800 + 1500.
Mitu / Soap(http://mitubangkok.com/) - 90 minute nuru / 4700.
I had originally wanted to try Doki Doki for nuru, but they were very busy! Queue of gents in the waiting room when I arrived, and a rather brusque receptionist, so I decided to leave.
Headed on over to Mitu / Soap instead, another nuru place. This was an excellent idea!
Momo Massage (http://momothonglor.com/) - 90 minutes massage + FS / 2500.
Bangkok Milking Table outcall (https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/) - 2 hour duo / 5000.
.Another excellent report. I did not know momo was worth checking out but will do so.
Soi 24/1 has some nice action with B B Enterntainment being the best. Just walk along and check out who is sitting out front. Although the numbers are definitely affected right now.
101 Premier Massage in Soi 26 is also worth checking out. Always great service but I have noticed of late it has gone full anime looking with plastic surgery on face and plastic tity jobs on all women.
Chimpo Chinn
11-27-21, 16:50
Rough Girls are to be expected if you say just Send Someone over.
Even when you go to massage parlor in person mamasan is always trying to push the Ugly girls.
Looks are of the utmost Factor in getting customers.
As of last Friday, just 10 days later than some favorite repeat go-go girls told me something like this would happen, at least one big Nana Plaza go-go bar has indeed opened in the evening under the watchful eyes of the boys in brown and plenty of police.
The only catch is there is no dancing, no bikinis and the socializing is all done at the outdoor entrance tables and chairs, not indoors yet. Oh, and no alcohol is permitted to be served, same as every other open bar in the area. Just whatever that liquid is in plastic cups and mugs.
The pickins are slim at the moment. However, I assume the reopening of more bars in the Plaza with more girls showing up will have a lot to do with how well the management and ownership monitors and avoids congestion, overcrowded conditions and patron and staff's sudden urges to break out in group dancing, rather than strictly about what is in those paper cups and mugs.
That's a shame, I had a similar experience a few years back so I won't be back.
Still, you are giving me ideas for my next trip, wheels up in three weeks.Horrible horrible service I also tried a few yrs back they make everything look so good but when they arrive it's a different game, mine would not kiss me in shower or let me touch them anywhere I put a end to it right out of the shower.
SuperBuilder2
11-28-21, 00:11
Day 6.
Wood Bar (https://bjbarbangkok.com/) - BJ + FS / 800 + 1500.
Decided to take a walk along past Wood Bar again, more out of curiosity than anything. Ended up getting pulled in by a young looking spinner named Tye. Initially went just for the BJ service but couldn't resist once she had all her clothes off in the room, so upgraded to FS. BBBJ was OK, not deep, but satisfyingly sloppy. Tye's slim body riding me to completion was definitely a highlight though! Only light kissing, but Tye was the prettiest one I've been with on my trip so far. Got her line so I can check when she's working again. Didn't see anyone else who looked interesting enough at the bar, or at any of the other venues along that alley.
Mitu / Soap(http://mitubangkok.com/) - 90 minute nuru / 4700.
I had originally wanted to try Doki Doki for nuru, but they were very busy! Queue of gents in the waiting room when I arrived, and a rather brusque receptionist, so I decided to leave.
Headed on over to Mitu / Soap instead, another nuru place. This was an excellent idea!
While Doki Doki seems more geared to Westerners, Mitu / SOAP seems to be designed to appeal to the Japanese customers. Their website doesn't list any models or prices, but you can contact them on WeChat or Line to get the details. They operate a tiered system:
Model New - 2300.
Model S - 2600.
Model O - 3900.
Model A - 4700.
Model P - 6000.
On arrival, the sweet receptionist sat me down with their iPad to view the models available, and explained the tier system. FFM and FFFM options are also available, cost dependent on which models were selected. I asked if it was possible to see a line up, so the receptionist called the girls out. I would say the photos were not too heavily touched up based on what I saw. Selected Pero (a model A) as I liked the look of her face. While Pero departed to get ready, the receptionist provided me with a damp cloth and a Japanese energy drink. A nice touch!
The nuru room we used was essentially a very large shower room, with a strategic mirror on one wall, and a nuru mattress. My main complaints about the room are that the lighting is terrible! Other than that, quite suitable for the activities to take place.
Pero herself was fantastic. Very slim, lithe body, with a very sensual approach. Reasonable grasp of English, enough for some flirty chat. I was soaped up, showered off, sucked to attention, and then smothered in nuru gel while lying on the mattress. It was quite the show watching Pero glide all over me in the mirror. More BBBJ, rimming, light kissing, and then magically Pero had a condom on and was lowering herself down on me. Great fun having sex in cowgirl with both of us covered in nuru gel and sliding on the mat! We went slightly over time (with the countdown timer blaring a bit annoyingly) but Pero was adamant that I had a good time. Then we showered off the gel and got dressed.
Once back at reception, I was asked to complete a survey about the service I received. I am guessing this is how they calculate the rating for the girls. Was given a selection of Japanese snacks as a parting gift.
I will return!
Day 7.
Momo Massage (http://momothonglor.com/) - 90 minutes massage + FS / 2500.
Another Japanese orientated establishment. Just step off the BTS and you're there. The receptionist offered a book with photos (as you see on the website), but I asked for a lineup. The girls all wear a Japanese-esque office uniform, which is quite cute. In keeping with the theme, I picked the most Japanese-looking one: Yoko.
Yoko looks much cuter in person than in her photos. I suspect some Japanese heritage, as her gorgeous oval eyes had only a single eyelid each, as opposed to the usual more Thai or Western eyes. Very slim body, with beautiful pale skin. I believe most girls at Momo will be paler than average, as the Japanese tend to favour them over the darker skinned sisters.
What followed was what I guess you'd call "Japanese GFE". In the room Yoko was both shy and playful. Reasonable grasp of English and Japanese, but I kept using terrible Thai pickup lines on her, as they'd make her gasp and feign being embarrassed. I think a highlight for me was when she glanced over her shoulder and caught me watching her in the shower. I believe she genuinely blushed and giggled there, or is a very good actress.
Once Yoko had washed and dried me, so gave a reasonable BBBJ. No DT here though. Once the condom was applied, lots of DFK in missionary, and then we switched to Asian cowgirl, with Yoko actually getting a bit of a flush from the exertion, which was enough to put me over the edge.
A note about condoms: If you don't already, bring your own! The ones supplied at Momo were painfully small for my (what I've always thought of as "average") size.
I will return!
Bangkok Milking Table outcall (https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/) - 2 hour duo / 5000.
Wanting to have something exciting back in my hotel room, and having enjoyed the milking table concept at Analisa's, I decided to give this a try. Big mistake! I'm afraid I don't recall which two ladies were selected (I asked for advice on the phone), but two of the roughest looking women I've ever seen in Thailand showed up. The service was rushed and very un-sensual. The table itself was fantastic, and with the right pair of women I think it would be amazing. But with these two, it was not enjoyable at all. I ended the session after an hour, as I just wanted them out. They were kind enough to give me a partial refund, but I'm afraid I can't recommend this service.
Avoid this one.
Some observations after 7 days here:
Activity in the soi's seems to be getting busier than when I arrived, but still very quiet compared to the last time I was here some years ago.
Much busier on Friday and Saturday nights. Would say triple the amount of FLs along Sukhumvit Road on Friday night compared to other nights.
A common question the FL ladies ask you is if you are vaccinated, one or two times, and which vaccine.
After 11 pm there's no alcohol being sold ("officially") and most places close down. I've seen Thai police taking a slow cruise along the busier streets at 11 pm to check.
Of course, you can still see many people drinking from coffee mugs or soft drink cups after 11 pm.
Nana plaza is still all closed off, there are some FLs across the way in the car park till, but didn't see much interest.
Most of the Nana FLs appear to have moved to the warren of soi's across the bridge over Sukhumvit. I did see some fit ones, but it's difficult to tell with the mask on if they're worth going for.
Almost all venues (malls, hotels, BTS, etc.) will have a guard and a temperature check at the entrance. If your temp is too high, you will be refused access.
Apparently there is a new law saying that you cannot advertise prices online, so some places you have to contact them directly to obtain prices.I had same experience of the milking table girls, terrible service and not worth the money nor time.
Explorer8939
11-28-21, 02:45
I am taking a short holiday in Bangkok this week, 4 days, with 2 ladies coming, each for 2 days. I can arrange for one to depart in the morning and the other to show up later in the day. So, I can have a few hours alone to check out the shops around Asoke.
The reports here are not clear whether there are any decent soapies open around that part of Sukhumvit.
Chimpo Chinn
11-28-21, 16:08
I had same experience of the milking table girls, terrible service and not worth the money nor time.Anything Gimmicky is always a dis-appointment.
The less than desirables are always the Providers. Old, rough looking, no teeth, etc. Scars from who know s what.
I have never been to a BJ bar. Is full service ever on the option?FS is always an option. They want the extra money. Some places like Wood bar (formerly Dr. BJ's) have rooms you can go to and girls often try to upsell you to it anyways.
101 Premier Massage in Soi 26 is also worth checking out. Always great service but I have noticed of late it has gone full anime looking with plastic surgery on face and plastic tity jobs on all women.Thats actually interesting? Any really big boobed ones around? It can be tough to find that in any reliable manner in BKK.
How do you guys travel from Nana plaza to Asok without BTS? I mean there are any other options like Taxi tuk tuk easily available at night times?
Etaoin2003
11-28-21, 20:07
How do you guys travel from Nana plaza to Asok without BTS? I mean there are any other options like Taxi tuk tuk easily available at night times?You could fall down and roll that far.
How do you guys travel from Nana plaza to Asok without BTS? I mean there are any other options like Taxi tuk tuk easily available at night times?Grab bike, on the Grab app. Super cheap and always available.
How do you guys travel from Nana plaza to Asok without BTS? I mean there are any other options like Taxi tuk tuk easily available at night times?Yes, there are. In normal times anyway. There are less now in Covid times. (And you can better avoid the tuk tuk's, by the way.).
It's about a 15 minute walk from Nana Plaza to Asok. The Nana BTS station is approximately at one third of the total distance, and you have to walk up some stairs to the platform.
So in my experience taking the BTS is almost as exhausting as walking the whole stretch.
How do you guys travel from Nana plaza to Asok without BTS? I mean there are any other options like Taxi tuk tuk easily available at night times?Walking is the easiest but if you have problem with that I suggest that you use the Bolt app to get a taxi, they have very cheap rates that beat Grab.
How do you guys travel from Nana plaza to Asok without BTS? I mean there are any other options like Taxi tuk tuk easily available at night times?The BTS is running and less than half full.
NicFrenchy
11-29-21, 11:09
For the nostalgic folks that liked the old Craigslist ads:
https://bangkok.th.locanto.asia/Women-Looking-for-Men/20702/
You're welcome.
Day 4, PG activities in the morning. In the evening scheduled another LT with another contact I met years past from Tinder, who's done escorting on and off but stopped since COVID. Was told that she hasn't fucked anyone in a year, not sure I believe her but I don't care either way. Movie + overnight, damage was 6 k, pre pandemic she used to ask 8 k+ and would travel frequently where she'd likely have gotten more, so it seems like even the more successful girls are dropping prices.
Day 5, visited another sidelines girl with an agency at noon, located in a hotel about 20 minutes north of Asok via Grab in traffic. Small Issan girl, good English, and accurate pictures. Girl was a bit shy as she seemed a bit new, but warmed up after some chit chat and was good in the sack. Two rounds, and she was happy to accommodate costume request for the second round. Damage 2 k for 90 minutes, she did mention to me that the agency was taking a 500 BHT cut, and that she preferred the agency since the volume of requests is excessive. In the evening met another contact I met on Instagram from years past and has since gone "legit". She seems to have done well for herself, new car, her own place, etc. Dinner + overnight BBFS, price was never discussed but I left 10 k in her purse, which she didn't bother counting. Will be seeing her again before I head back to the States.
Day 6, independent sidelines girl in the morning, operating out of the same hotel as the gem I found on day 2. Was rejected at first since they mistake me for a Farang but got a yes when I clarified that I was Asian American. Pictures a bit touched up but unnecessary, guess most Thai guys prefer whiter skin. Another banging slim thick body, with dyed blonde. Pink hair. Acceptable English, ok BBBJ, very active in the sack, and great GFE. Also amazing massage between rounds. Damage was 3 k for 2 hours, might repeat. PG activities in the evening, did walk from Cowboys to Nana, which were both dead. Saw a few FLs, but nothing that really striked my fancy.
Day 7, PG activities in the morning, was browsing through sidelines but the desire has really diminished after multiple days of 3+ nuts a day. Had the overnight girl from Day 4 over again for dinner + LT. Damage was again 6 k.
Day 8, checkout in the morning and ride to Pattaya. Have 4 nights at the Hilton before 2 nights back in BKK.
Somethings I noticed during my time in Bangkok. The city still seems pretty quiet. There's not a significant amount of traffic. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the talent has not yet returned, or has moved their operations online. In the past, I've been bombarded with messages on the WeChat nearby feature, which I've used to find talent passively, but have been solicited very few this year with none doable. I was expecting maybe more success this year with Tinder given the economic situation, but that hasn't been the case, with most matches wanting to either chat or meet for casual coffee dates. Maybe I just need to step up my game.
As far as agency goes, nothing on Smooci has interested me so far. I did checkout bkkescortservice, but the "bare backed" service offered on the site and mentioned in past posts is gone, with the handler saying that no such option existed, so I have not partook as I don't think the value proposition is there. I'm also not sure if I will visit some of the massage parlors like Dream and Mitu as originally planned. I did manage to reach TonyBKK from years past, who has provided high quality girls at premium prices, but am not sure if I will book again this year as I've got a lot of talent lined up for the rest of my time in Bangkok.
Obviously the amount of girls on Sidelines is staggering (why is it called Sidelines and not Fiwfans? But so far with 4 DPs, 2 agency and 2 independent, I've had 1 bad experience (agency), 1 good experience (agency), and 2 excellent experiences (freelance). All girls have touched up photos, but none excessive. I did notice that the good and excellent experiences were all with girls who have photos included in reviews. I think Sidelines is good if you're more of a quality than quantity sort of guy (which I am), as it does take a lot of effort to both filter and travel, but I can see this being great if you can build some sort of rapport with the girls or agencies over a longer period of time.
On the PG side of things, visiting the Palace and Temple is actually very nice given the lack of massive Chinese tour groups. BTS, Grab, and taxi remains my primary methods of transportation and have been reliable with no scam attempts. Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit is a bit old, but service is still good, not sure if it's worth the pre-pandemic prices. Yaowarat and Chatuchak is open and packed. Are-Haan is excellent, LE Du is so so, El Toro good but overpriced, Marvels Eternals looks great but otherwise mediocre.
Thank you so much guys. Let me know if you need any tips for Mongering in Ukraine.
The BTS is running and less than half full.Even if it wasn't that is like a 15 min walk max.
HorseTrader
11-29-21, 16:15
Walking is the easiest but if you have problem with that I suggest that you use the Bolt app to get a taxi, they have very cheap rates that beat Grab.I agree that walking is the easiest, but some people simply don't want to walk.
I once made a deal with a freelancer from the Nana Hotel car park sign for short time at my Soi 11 hotel. She asked how we would get there and I said walk. She refused to walk and that nixed the whole deal. I stuck around the area for quite some time, she never left her station. Perhaps she lost an evening’s work by refusing to walk just half the distance of Nana Plaza to Asok.
I've brought many girls from the Nana Plaza area to Soi 11 and always walked. Maybe a couple grumbled about it during the walk, but no other time has it been a problem.
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