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You forgot Khaosan road, it is bustling right now with an alley dedicated and named as Walking street there with no cams allowed in the alley.
The question should be Khaosan or Sukhumvit.
The winner is sukhumvit but someone should make a ground visit to Khaosan as all of this is based on youtube reports...I was on Khaosan Road last night from about 7:30 pm until 9 pm. There were the usual tourist families, farang backpackers, couples and Thai locals that usually hit the area during normal times with a greater percentage being Thai locals these days.
Most restaurants and bars are open, some with live entertainment, loud music everywhere. Plenty of places to buy t-shirts, souvenirs, silver. More sedate and less noisy dining and drinking is found on the loop around area of Rambuttri Road and over at the Rambuttri Village section.
I saw no evidence of P4P freelancers or bargirls, Thai or otherwise.
In other words, Khaosan Road is lively if you are interested in shopping, dining, drinking, music (loud), a foot massage and possibly dancing. A pleasant family-friendly tourist destination but with an emphasis on drinking as the night progresses, same as during normal times.
However, there are two clubs or bars open inside the little Susie Walking Street pathway. For anyone not familiar with that pathway, it is about a 70 metre walkway that provides a shortcut between Khaosan Road and Rambuttri Road. Narrower than an alley, just wide enough for 3 people to walk side by side.
One bar is called Elephant (in Thai lettering only) and as near as I could tell the other bar is called Hubpital or maybe Keep Walking (in English lettering).
Both of these bars were very Thai-centric. Through the doors I did not see one farang in them. I am not a booze drinking and loud music guy anyway so I did not go inside but I could see from the customers entering they were all Thais and mostly couples or groups. Again, I got zero freelancer vibe from anything or anyone walking to and from those two bars on Susie Walking Street.
Maybe things get wilder and the Thai girls I saw will get shitfaced drunk and start moving away from their Thai boyfriends, schoolmates and co-workers to start groping at 2-3 of the older farang dudes like me nearby. I wasn't there late enough to find out. But I highly doubt it based on what I saw up until 9 pm or so.
I haven't figured out LINE yet, but I've had pretty good luck with the usual websites. Line is not a dating app. It's just a chat app (comparable to WhatsApp) that Thai people use a lot.
HorseTrader
12-19-21, 16:50
Line is not a dating app. It's just a chat app (comparable to WhatsApp) that Thai people use a lot.True, but Line also has a "People Nearby" feature that is sometimes used for hookups right here and right now. Similar to WeChat, but Line cannot be set to see only female users in your area.
Chimpo Chinn
12-19-21, 18:13
I was on Khaosan Road last night from about 7:30 pm until 9 pm. There were the usual tourist families, farang backpackers, couples and Thai locals that usually hit the area during normal times with a greater percentage being Thai locals these days.
Most restaurants and bars are open, some with live entertainment, loud music everywhere. Plenty of places to buy t-shirts, souvenirs, silver. More sedate and less noisy dining and drinking is found on the loop around area of Rambuttri Road and over at the Rambuttri Village section.
I saw no evidence of P4P freelancers or bargirls, Thai or otherwise.
In other words, Khaosan Road is lively if you are interested in shopping, dining, drinking, music (loud), a foot massage and possibly dancing. A pleasant family-friendly tourist destination but with an emphasis on drinking as the night progresses, same as during normal times.
However, there are two clubs or bars open inside the little Susie Walking Street pathway. For anyone not familiar with that pathway, it is about a 70 metre walkway that provides a shortcut between Khaosan Road and Rambuttri Road. Narrower than an alley, just wide enough for 3 people to walk side by side.You give the best updates. And more importantly believe-able.
I always ask this question and never get answers. Who and where are the customers to Partake in this reopening of Thailand.
Tree town is Booming if you like sitting on benches with Thai.
To me. We not coming till it's just show passport and departure Covid test.
White Shark
12-20-21, 09:00
True, but Line also has a "People Nearby" feature that is sometimes used for hookups right here and right now. Similar to WeChat, but Line cannot be set to see only female users in your area.I'm using Line as well with some thai friends, but I never find " People Nearby" function. Where is in the Line's menu?
Thanks in advance for your help.
HorseTrader
12-20-21, 16:22
I'm using Line as well with some thai friends, but I never find " People Nearby" function. Where is in the Line's menu?
Thanks in advance for your help.On iPhone, look in the HOME section, then SERVICES group. You might need to click MORE before you see PEOPLE NEARBY.
On iPad, go to HOME. In the SEARCH bar type in PEOPLE NEARBY and it will come up. I don't know any other way to find it on the iPad.
I've never tried to use people nearby on an Android device. Line is a bit different on different devices, for example, I've never figured out how to send my location using my laptop.
Houston Player
12-20-21, 16:34
On iPhone, look in the HOME section, then SERVICES group. You might need to click MORE before you see PEOPLE NEARBY.
On iPad, go to HOME. In the SEARCH bar type in PEOPLE NEARBY and it will come up. I don't know any other way to find it on the iPad.
I've never tried to use people nearby on an Android device. Line is a bit different on different devices, for example, I've never figured out how to send my location using my laptop.
I'm using Line as well with some thai friends, but I never find " People Nearby" function. Where is in the Line's menu?
Thanks in advance for your help.The people nearby function does not work in the app when using a Thai phone number to register. If you registered your Line account using a non Thai phone number it still works in Thailand but you won't see any users with Thai numbers.
I've never felt unsafe in PP. There are always people in the RLD no matter what time it is. Sure the walk through empty pitch black streets to Cyrcee may be a bit sketch but just take a motorbike for 1 USD instead. Which area(s) are not for the faint hearted? Maybe I haven't been there.
Won't argue about the police though. Get caught for speeding with a taxi driver who drives 140 kmh between Sihanoukville and PP? Pay them 10-20 USD and you're on your way.I've never felt unsafe either. You are experienced so you can do it too. But newbies beware, especially around what "Ho" in "PP".
I liked Siem because there was stuff to see and do. But I've been around the block too so the only problem I ever had in Siem was with loser drunken barangs.
Hamburgler
12-22-21, 01:59
Walked around Sukhumvit last night near Sofitel and Hyatt. I saw a ton of freelancers and some looked pretty cute. It's hard to tell in the dark, some wearing masks and not getting a long enough look. Tonight I'll ask about the details on price. I got to be careful, the lady boys are all mixed with the regulars. Anyone else have an experience in this area?
Banana Boi
12-22-21, 02:33
Walked around Sukhumvit last night near Sofitel and Hyatt. I saw a ton of freelancers and some looked pretty cute. It's hard to tell in the dark, some wearing masks and not getting a long enough look. Tonight I'll ask about the details on price. I got to be careful, the lady boys are all mixed with the regulars. Anyone else have an experience in this area?That is the ladyboy area. Some girls tucked away on Soi 15 but otherwise I would guess 90% of those are ladyboys. Ladyboys won't allow girls to stand in front of Thermae. Maybe someone in Bangkok now can correct me if things have changed.
That is the ladyboy area. Some girls tucked away on Soi 15 but otherwise I would guess 90% of those are ladyboys. Ladyboys won't allow girls to stand in front of Thermae. Maybe someone in Bangkok now can correct me if things have changed.I have seen many real females in front of Thermae during normal times and maybe moreso lately. I have taken some from there as well. Same with that stretch in front of Sofitel and the Hyiatt hotels, although it is true that stretch usually has a higher percentage of ladyboys.
I don't know about one group ostracizing another in that area. The only time I ever noticed some possible evidence of anyone ostracizing anyone else was 2-3 times when clearly above average looking Thermae type girls out there discretely agreed upfront to BBFS+CIP with me at a reasonable rate for such girls of 2,000 baht for a leisurely, no hurry Short Time or 3,000 baht for a Long Time.
I noticed before and after those particular girls apparently violated some unwritten Thermae cardinal rule about BBFS+CIP and doing it with a farang for any reasonable price, they never mingled or sat with the other more Thermae Law-abiding girls.
LOL. But who knows what was really going on or in fact who was ostracizing whom in that case, if at all. It was just an interesting observation.
Hamburgler
12-22-21, 23:27
That is the ladyboy area. Some girls tucked away on Soi 15 but otherwise I would guess 90% of those are ladyboys. Ladyboys won't allow girls to stand in front of Thermae. Maybe someone in Bangkok now can correct me if things have changed.Thanks for the tip brother. Saved me some embarrassment. I made a trip to 7th heaven in the afternoon and was greeted by a lady in the front. She showed me a tablet with around 7 girls. I picked one but she didn't look anything like the photo. I was led up to small room with a bed and a sink. She definitely knew what she was doing. World class BJ and took the whole shot until there was nothing left.
At night I walked to nana plaza. It was pretty busy with around 50 to 60 girls drinking with the guys. There were definitely some cuties. Mama quoted 3,500 baht short time. I had too many beers so I'll go there tomorrow.
3500 bt short term? What a joke! Please don't pay that. Ever!
Thanks for the tip brother. Saved me some embarrassment. I made a trip to 7th heaven in the afternoon and was greeted by a lady in the front. She showed me a tablet with around 7 girls. I picked one but she didn't look anything like the photo. I was led up to small room with a bed and a sink. She definitely knew what she was doing. World class BJ and took the whole shot until there was nothing left.
At night I walked to nana plaza. It was pretty busy with around 50 to 60 girls drinking with the guys. There were definitely some cuties. Mama quoted 3,500 baht short time. I had too many beers so I'll go there tomorrow.
Chimpo Chinn
12-23-21, 17:16
3500 bt short term? What a joke! Please don't pay that. Ever!You can't just make a Blanket Statement like that. Some Girls command more.
JohnnieBravo
12-23-21, 20:37
I am very likely going to be in BKK sometime within the next two months. I wanted to try something I have never done in my trips to BKK and that is explore the less expensive freelancers in Chinatown. I realize this might be different since COVID, but has anyone ever taken any of these girls? If so could you please post about the exact location to find, the cost, the experience, etc. Thanks in advance.
JB.
Chimpo Chinn
12-23-21, 23:03
I am very likely going to be in BKK sometime within the next two months. I wanted to try something I have never done in my trips to BKK and that is explore the less expensive freelancers in Chinatown. I realize this might be different since COVID, but has anyone ever taken any of these girls? If so could you please post about the exact location to find, the cost, the experience, etc. Thanks in advance..I once thought the Hot Chinese Hookers are based in Chinatown.
What I found were old toothless Thais, wrinkly, big sized, bad skin, graying thinning hair, not exactly Brimming with good personality eating Beetlemuts providers.
Anyone s at w things differently. Maybe I missed the Better places.
Date of time. Awhile ago.
Explorer8939
12-24-21, 01:43
I spent some time in one of the open bars on Soi 4 near Nana. Maybe 10 ladies there, mostly elderly, and the occasional customer drifted in. The ladies seemed to know which customers to ignore.
It's still kind of slow on Soi 4.
NicFrenchy
12-24-21, 02:42
She showed me a tablet with around 7 girls. I picked one but she didn't look anything like the photo.Next time, ask for a lineup. They will get the girls to come out so you can see them in the flesh.
Photos are for the Japanese, who are way too shy to look at the girls, or even tip for sex (that's why you see all the fully pre-paid places coming up now).
Houston Player
12-24-21, 02:42
I spent some time in one of the open bars on Soi 4 near Nana. Maybe 10 ladies there, mostly elderly, and the occasional customer drifted in. The ladies seemed to know which customers to ignore.
It's still kind of slow on Soi 4.More ladies and customers are starting to show up every day. On Tuesday I recognized many ladies that were working inside an agogo when they were open. You didn't post a date that you visited the bar on Soi 4 and I know from your other posts that you're in another province now. So why in the fuck did you post this misleading information now?
Many bars are still slow while others are so crowded it's difficult to find a table. As always at any given time of any day there are multiple hot ladies or nothing but less than desirable ones. The bars on Soi 4 have always been filled with mostly older ladies.
NicFrenchy
12-24-21, 03:25
There were definitely some cuties. Mama quoted 3,500 baht short timeBy Mama, I hope you don't talk about the mamasan?
Stay away from these old hags, have a drink with the girl you like and negotiate directly with her. For one, there is no fix price, and second, girls are known to have very flexible pricing.
If she likes you she may make an effort on the price, if she doesn't want to go back 1 hour+ away back into her apartment. She may give you a great price so she can sleep in a clean, air-conditionned room.
She may also give you a high price if she does not want to go with you.
YMMV.
Crocodilexp
12-24-21, 05:16
I am very likely going to be in BKK sometime within the next two months. I wanted to try something I have never done in my trips to BKK and that is explore the less expensive freelancers in Chinatown. I realize this might be different since COVID, but has anyone ever taken any of these girls? If so could you please post about the exact location to find, the cost, the experience, etc. Thanks in advance.
JB.Downmarket streetwalker scenes are in Chinatown in a few streets near the traffic circle (22 July Roundaboud, Wongwian 22), and also in several blocks southwest of Khok Wua intersection, not far from Khao San Road.
Going rate 400-700 baht (normally 500) at a nearby ST room (for about 100 baht), but you can make other arrangements if you prefer. Plenty of scary ones, obvious junkies, old women, but there's a number of diamonds in the rough, especially since Covid started and other scenes scaled back or closed down. The average is bad, but if you compare top 30, it's no worse than Sukhumvit, actually some women from Soi 4 ended up there.
Service is not as good as in Farang areas, CBJ, rushed, no GFE, but there are exceptions, and at 500 baht one can afford to miss. Attitudes are slightly better around Khok Wua area than in Chinatown.
Last time, I managed to snag a 9/10 of the kind I never see in Farang areas anymore (all natural, lighter skin, long face, no tats, 25, light makeup, clean, not looking like an obvious hooker). The kind of girl I could go out with, rarity among hookers. She offered 500 baht at a nearby room, but I wanted to take her across town to my place for and paid 1500 for 3 h and 2 shots, a great deal. Had several 500 baht ones prior to that, but local ST hotels are dirty and depressing. Normally I don't care but during Covid I'm extra risk averse.
Speaking basic Thai is a plus, but with some patience, I'm sure you'll manage without it. If you're into cheap streetwalkers, definitely check out those two areas, since Sukhumvit has been terrible during the Covid crisis.
This info is from Feb 2021, things might have changed since then.
By Mama, I hope you don't talk about the mamasan?
Stay away from these old hags, have a drink with the girl you like and negotiate directly with her. For one, there is no fix price, and second, girls are known to have very flexible pricing.
If she likes you she may make an effort on the price, if she doesn't want to go back 1 hour+ away back into her apartment. She may give you a great price so she can sleep in a clean, air-conditionned room.
She may also give you a high price if she does not want to go with you..On the 3500 baht ST rate quoted by a mamasan in Nana Plaza, it may have included the barfine, 500-600 baht or whatever it is there now, and almost certainly a 500 baht share if not more going to the mamasan for hooking up the girl with a customer she, the mamasan, feels ok about. Maybe the girl gets to keep 1,500 - 2,000 when all is said and done. So there can definitely be some flexibility there.
However, for anyone shocked about a 3,500 baht ST quote, I will go on record now to say I have seen girls in the Nana Plaza bar area who in real life right in front of your eyes in the flesh could compete quite well in terms of looks with the doctored photos I've seen of some 4+ or 5 rated girls on Smoochi or other escort services. The ones that start at 3,750 baht for ST without knowing for sure what you're getting looks wise until the hotel door opens and quite probably no chance of anything close to, say, BBFS+CIP even if it provided by surprise in the room for extra baht.
IMO, whether 3,500 baht for ST is shocking or not depends on who the girl is and what she agrees to do for it.
I would also say some of us should not dismiss out of hand the potential value of a mamasan. A good one, that is. Yes, if the primary goal of the customer is to get the lowest price possible and he is perfectly happy with whatever standard fare covered this and that, No to this and No that, pleasant or unpleasant surprise in the room he gets from a "go with the flow" mode or whatever she claims to have understood the negotiation was about in the bar beforehand, then for sure avoid or reject any mamasan intervention.
However, if there is something special the customer wants, something not generally or never on the standard fare menu and that a customer might feel uncomfortable negotiating with a bargirl before taking her or in the room, a good mamasan can smooth the runway by offering you a selection of girls she has already discretely vetted on those things with you from across the room.
For example, some mamasans know I want BBFS+CIP if I'm going to pay a barfine and take one of their girls. For others it might be Anal, a threesome where the girls really are into each other as well as you, rimming, whatever. So in my example the mamasan is likely to go to a new girl I have never seen, met or taken before, point me out to her and ask her if she is up to the idea, while also assuring her that I am not a nut, will not scam her out of a fairly negotiated fee to her and that other girls have been more than delighted to repeat with me any time I want.
If the girl says No, the mamasan will smile and move on to another girl. If that girl says yes, the mamasan will take her by the hand and lead her over to me for my approval before even buying her a Ladydrink. The mamasan will then repeat in English and Thai loud enough for both of us to hear what it is I want and that it is fine with the girl. And I am not talking about the old hag hard cases in the bar. Sometimes, perhaps. But I don't take those.
Now, is something like that fully vetted and agreed to upfront in a bar before you even buy a Ladydrink worth an additional 500 baht over the lower price you could have gotten if you just take your chances with the girl and there is no mamasan intervention and assurances to both you and the girl? For many it would be No. For me the answer is Yes.
Banana Boi
12-24-21, 13:18
On the 3500 baht ST rate quoted by a mamasan in Nana Plaza, it may have included the barfine, 500-600 baht or whatever it is there now, and almost certainly a 500 baht share if not more going to the mamasan for hooking up the girl with a customer she, the mamasan, feels ok about. Yes, this is what I'm being told as well. 2500 for the girl, 500 or whatever they think you will pay for BF, another hefty 500 tip for mamasan. Don't forget you have to buy them drinks at 200 baht a piece. Gogo bar pricing and it's not even a gogo bar! It's like paying 3500 baht for a FL.
But even more criminal is that French Fries are 150 baht! Guess it costs a lot for Grab to deliver fries to Nana.
My advice is just talk to the girls and get their Line. They will go with you for 1500-2000 when they're not at the "bar". There are no more contracts where girls have to work 7 or 10 day shifts so you can likely arrange something the following day.
NicFrenchy
12-24-21, 15:21
I would also say some of us should not dismiss out of hand the potential value of a mamasan. A good one, that is. Yes, if the primary goal of the customer is to get the lowest price possible and he is perfectly happy with whatever standard fare covered this and that, No to this and No that, pleasant or unpleasant surprise in the room he gets from a "go with the flow" mode or whatever she claims to have understood the negotiation was about in the bar beforehand, then for sure avoid or reject any mamasan intervention.Amen to diversity.
It is my personal experience (but I'm not a bar expert, massage is my poison) that involving mamasans is not a guarantee that the encounter will yield more / better fruit. I find dealing with the girl and paying the girl the extra 500 instead of the mamasan may lead to a better experience.
I am very vanilla compared to you guys, I like my sex straight and protected, so maybe there is less chances for misunderstandings once under the sheets.
My only demand is that I set a minimum time (2 hours minimum) and unlimited pops during that time.
Chimpo Chinn
12-24-21, 16:38
Downmarket streetwalker scenes are in Chinatown in a few streets near the traffic circle (22 July Roundaboud, Wongwian 22), and also in several blocks southwest of Khok Wua intersection, not far from Khao San Road.
Going rate 400-700 baht (normally 500) at a nearby ST room (for about 100 baht), but you can make other arrangements if you prefer. Plenty of scary ones, obvious junkies, old women, but there's a number of diamonds in the rough, especially since Covid started and other scenes scaled back or closed down. The average is bad, but if you compare top 30, it's no worse than Sukhumvit, actually some women from Soi 4 ended up there.
Service is not as good as in Farang areas, CBJ, rushed, no GFE, but there are exceptions, and at 500 baht one can afford to miss. Attitudes are slightly better around Khok Wua area than in Chinatown.
Last time, I managed to snag a 9/10 of the kind I never see in Farang areas anymore (all natural, lighter skin, long face, no tats, 25, light makeup, clean, not looking like an obvious hooker). The kind of girl I could go out with, rarity among hookers. She offered 500 baht at a nearby room, but I wanted to take her across town to my place for and paid 1500 for 3 h and 2 shots, a great deal. Had several 500 baht ones prior to that, but local ST hotels are dirty and depressing. Normally I don't care but during Covid I'm extra risk averse..I'm the Price Police. Someone has to do it.
The world can be coming to an end. You won't get a 9 for 500 baht. Come on.
Price Matters.
Chimpo Chinn
12-24-21, 16:46
Best to stay away from Mamasan, once they like you it's never ending requests for money.
Mama can't judge Chemistry.
If you go to Asian bar a manasan might tell you which one will go with Farang.
You have to remember Mama can't just push Khrap, she is more concerned about the Prostitute s welfare than yours. Not many good ones around. That's where her interests lies.
If you are a regular then they might be of help.
Better to snuggle up to a Trusted barmaid. Very few of those as most are Blabbermouths.
In essence DIY. Do it yourself. You don't want to be indebted to Thais.
I will travel to Bangkok, after looong time, at end of January. I was there last time in 2019, in the summer.
I want ask what for a massage saloon suggestion, or blowjob bar, because I think many things change in almost 2 years.I was just in this area and can provide a modest update. Lolita's and Kasaloong appear shuttered. Wood is open; I dropped by 2 weeks ago in the afternoon when there were exactly 2 girls lounging on the front porch. Both doable, for the grand price of 700 be. I picked one (Gai) whose BJ was toothy, albeit with a cheerful attitude. I nearly quit partway through but she insisted on persevering. I would not rush back to see her again.
I also visited Duangporn's Haven (it appears to have no sign, so Google Maps is your friend). Four girls, only one doable, so I took her (800 B). Ying has bigger boobs than I usually like (but probably ideal for most) and wore an office girl's pencil skirt I found alluring. Attitude was all professional BJ girl (cheerful, sexy and task-oriented). The rooms there are dismal, but contain a sink for dick washing and a lounger for getting blown in. After a quick cold water washup involving too much soap (ouch), she got down on her knees lick balls, shaft and pretty quickly settled in for a proper BJ, no teeth. She clearly has experience, cause I was pumping a load into her mouth after 5 minutes max. She sucked until I was done unloading and no longer. Then she was off to the sink to hoark and spit! Another washup and I visited the toilet for my requisite post-BJ pee; the facilities were some of the worst I've ever seen (filthy, no door, mossies, etc), but a guy's got to stay safe.
I scoped out 7-Heaven but did not go inside. It has moved across the Soi so one can hope that some improvement to the facilities resulted, but don't count on it! Their lineup is usually quite strong and service is exemplary. Worth testing them out, especially if you're up for the higher price tag (1400, I think).
Yes, this is what I'm being told as well. 2500 for the girl, 500 or whatever they think you will pay for BF, another hefty 500 tip for mamasan. Don't forget you have to buy them drinks at 200 baht a piece. Gogo bar pricing and it's not even a gogo bar! It's like paying 3500 baht for a FL.
But even more criminal is that French Fries are 150 baht! Guess it costs a lot for Grab to deliver fries to Nana.
My advice is just talk to the girls and get their Line. They will go with you for 1500-2000 when they're not at the "bar". There are no more contracts where girls have to work 7 or 10 day shifts so you can likely arrange something the following day.Last night I was in one of the more popular Soi 7 bars with a regular, mostly non pro, part time girlfriend of mine and the Thai lady owner of the bar, who my part time GF and I know well, was in hushed conference with 3-4 girls who work in that bar regularly and who kept gesturing toward a dude who was simply strolling around and chatting with a girl here and there. She shared what the buzz was about with me and my GF. It seems that customer was roaming around in and out of the bars and kept coming back to this bar to, guess what, hit on the girls to get their Line info in order to meet them afterwards and skip out on the barfine. Imagine that?
LOL. Really, I'd never observed this kind of concern over that move, or any concern about it before other than some places that frown on the sight of a customer and girl tapping info into their phones together. It was disturbing enough for the girls themselves to report it to the owner of the bar! And the owner was naturally pissed off about it. Consequently, the guy was getting the cold shoulder by all. He was a rather ordinary looking farang dude in pretty good physical condition, maybe late 40's.
I don't know if this was a 1 in 100 situation or if the Bangkok bar owners and girls in these times have decided they want the bars to stay open and thrive, get the barfines they're asking for, keep the Ladydrinks flowing, make money and keep the doors open so to speak and not turn every girl who wants to work in these kind of venues into a ThaiFriendly / Tinder freelancer or a street girl. Who knows.
I must say I have felt a bit more of a "By The Book" vibe in some of these bars since they reopened after almost 2 years of whipsaw brief openings and much longer closures while the rents kept coming due. By that, I mean less inclination to work around the bar system and meet before or after hours, skip any Ladydrink purchases at all just to go with a customer, leave early in the evening for Long Time and stuff like that.
LookingLooking
12-25-21, 05:40
I'm the Price Police. Someone has to do it.
The world can be coming to an end. You won't get a 9 for 500 baht. Come on.
Price Matters.His 9 may not be your 9.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Banana Boi
12-25-21, 08:06
He was a rather ordinary looking farang dude in pretty good physical condition, maybe late 40's.You caught me! My comb over is stylish though, isn't it?
Many of the Asian gogo bars in Pattaya at least are pretty anal about guys getting Line ID's and skipping barfines. A few girls say no when I ask them the first time but after they see me in the bar a couple/few nights they're giving me their Line ID's without me asking again.
You caught me! My comb over is stylish though, isn't it?
Many of the Asian gogo bars in Pattaya at least are pretty anal about guys getting Line ID's and skipping barfines. A few girls say no when I ask them the first time but after they see me in the bar a couple/few nights they're giving me their Line ID's without me asking again.Yes, I am sure it is after they realize that you have at least paid something to help keep their place of business open and will again.
The guy I mentioned is apparently well known to avoid paying anything at the bar, not buying any drinks even for himself. So none of the girls want to be seen walking around with him during off hours.
Thanks for all your reports, very useful!
Out of all the experiences you had, what would you say are the top 3 your recommend? Traveling in 1 week, looking forward to it. Thanks!
Day 19.
Mitu / SOAP (http://mitubangkok.com/) - 90 minute 4-hand nuru / 7600.
Contacted Mitu to suggest another pair for a 4-hand massage. Ended up booking Rui (A) and Paris (O).
I would rate Rui's nuru skills as excellent, almost on par with Kaede's and Pero's. Paris was good, but a little mechanical by comparison. Rui has delightfully smooth skin, although I suspect you'd only be able to detect the difference by having one of them in each hand!
The ladies showered and washed me, and each other off, and then provided some reasonable BBBJ before all of us got onto the mat. Lots of slip and sliding, with Rui using her tongue to pay particular attention to my feet and toes. Paris rimmed me for a while, but not as deep or intense as Kaede had.
The ladies were only slightly interactive, happy to DFK me but not each other. Asian cowgirl with both girls in turn, before a lovely sloppy HJ from Rui into Paris' mouth. No swallow, unfortunately..
Chimpo Chinn
12-25-21, 15:04
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NicFrenchy
12-25-21, 15:09
It seems that customer was roaming around in and out of the bars and kept coming back to this bar to, guess what, hit on the girls to get their Line info in order to meet them afterwards and skip out on the barfine. Imagine that?This should not come as a surprise, it's been done and going on for decades. Maybe not as "tech" oriented as sharing LINE contact, but the whole "let's meet after if you're not barfined" is not new.
I remember NEP thriving at 2 am with all the girls that didn't get barfines (or back from a ST and looking for a place to spend the night) and the punters that would negotiate ST prices for a LT stay.
The girls, mamasans and bar owners better get used to it, this behavior is not going to stop, maybe made more obvious now with the rise of technology.
Chimpo Chinn
12-25-21, 15:38
This should not come as a surprise, it's been done and going on for decades. Maybe not as "tech" oriented as sharing LINE contact, but the whole "let's meet after if you're not barfined" is not new.
I remember NEP thriving at 2 am with all the girls that didn't get barfines (or back from a ST and looking for a place to spend the night) and the punters that would negotiate ST prices for a LT stay.
The girls, mamasans and bar owners better get used to it, this behavior is not going to stop, maybe made more obvious now with the rise of technology.Great Post.
Notice he says girls who didn't get Barfined during normal hours.
Say 500 sets of eyeballs saw each unfined girl and they couldn't get a Horny Barfine. This just destroys the Beholder of the eye theory.
Bottom 65% of girls just can't compete with the top 40% if they charge the same price.
Now attach this to the guy who says he gets hot Pattaya Bargirls who work the tip top agogos at 500 baht. See the connection.
This should not come as a surprise, it's been done and going on for decades. Maybe not as "tech" oriented as sharing LINE contact, but the whole "let's meet after if you're not barfined" is not new.
I remember NEP thriving at 2 am with all the girls that didn't get barfines (or back from a ST and looking for a place to spend the night) and the punters that would negotiate ST prices for a LT stay.
The girls, mamasans and bar owners better get used to it, this behavior is not going to stop, maybe made more obvious now with the rise of technology.Used to love walking down Cowboy or being outside Nana when the bars closed back in the early 00's. It was just amazing. Always a buyer's market with hordes of gals out to find a customer. "Go with you" was heard a hundred times. Good days those were.
Chimpo Chinn
12-25-21, 17:51
Used to love walking down Cowboy or being outside Nana when the bars closed back in the early 00's. It was just amazing. Always a buyer's market with hordes of gals out to find a customer. "Go with you" was heard a hundred times. Good days those were.Big McMeal in whenever $5.99. Now approaching $10.99.
Back then Hot girl was 1,500 her fee, barfine not included.
Somewhere in today's metaverse fee is 3,000 baht.
I don't get it. Why are people so opposed to today's Hooker prices. Their costs have gone up too.
Thanks for all your reports, very useful!
Out of all the experiences you had, what would you say are the top 3 your recommend? Traveling in 1 week, looking forward to it. Thanks!Depends on what you're after. If time is short for you, book ahead so you make sure you get who you want.
For me, it'd be, in order:
- Soapy / nuru: Mitu.
- Sweet GFE pampering: Momo or Mai Chan.
- PSE milking table: Analisa's.
- Roll the dice: FL off Sukhumvit or Smooci.
I'd also make sure to book in for a 2 hour Thai massage at one of the legit establishments (Lek, Asia Herb, etc.) - sex is fun, but a good Thai massage is heavenly, and usually expensive outside of Thailand.
Hope restrictions are not too heavy while you're there. A few ladies I've remained in contact with over Line have told me they've gone back home due to lack of customers and fear of covid.
Big McMeal in whenever $5.99. Now approaching $10.99.
Back then Hot girl was 1,500 her fee, barfine not included.
Somewhere in today's metaverse fee is 3,000 baht.
I don't get it. Why are people so opposed to today's Hooker prices. Their costs have gone up too.I didn't see anywhere is mentioned or complaining about price, but was just reminiscing of some good memories he had!
Banana Boi
12-26-21, 01:22
The guy I mentioned is apparently well known to avoid paying anything at the bar, not buying any drinks even for himself. So none of the girls want to be seen walking around with him during off hours.Perception is everything. Even if the guy bought a drink for himself and sat down but no lady drinks, girls would still hesitate to go with him in normal times because they think he is a Cheap Charlie and they won't get a tip over the negotiated price. They're also not making money on lady drinks.
Seen enough guys sit in a gogo bar who do not buy lady drinks and wonder why he isn't getting any attention. Same guy goes to the same gogo bar for a few days in a row spending 2-3 k per night on lady drinks will have a swarm of girls by week's end. I've tried this myself.
Member #4753
12-26-21, 02:43
Thanks for the tip brother. Saved me some embarrassment. I made a trip to 7th heaven in the afternoon and was greeted by a lady in the front. She showed me a tablet with around 7 girls. I picked one but she didn't look anything like the photo. I was led up to small room with a bed and a sink. She definitely knew what she was doing. World class BJ and took the whole shot until there was nothing left.
At night I walked to nana plaza. It was pretty busy with around 50 to 60 girls drinking with the guys. There were definitely some cuties. Mama quoted 3,500 baht short time. I had too many beers so I'll go there tomorrow.I think you saw the infamous mamasan that has worked at a lot of bars in Nana. Everyone that has been to Nana Plaza would know who she is. I saw her working at Twister, Nana Plaza about 3 weeks ago and would bet you spoke to her. I have heard her same the exact quote from her many times over the years.
She was at Billboard 3 years ago and Random when it first opened in June 2020.
She quotes that exact same rate to anyone she has not seen at Nana before. It includes the bar fine plus the lady. Once she has seen you once or twice she will stop this nonsense as she assumes you know the score. However she will have her hand out for a tip or try to pull some other annoying little hussle.
Just completely ignore her, she adds nothing to the process and negotiate directly with the girl. In reality, only the best 20% of girls are going to be able to get maybe the standard precovid rate 3000 short term / 6000 long term .
Standard rate for an average girl around soi 4/7/8/11 is probably 1500 to 2000 short term. That is for a 5 or 6. Any girl that is really pretty will try and get 3000, however at the moment everything is negotiable. She would want to be InstaHo hot to get anything near 3000 at the moment.
NicFrenchy
12-26-21, 03:38
Perception is everything. Even if the guy bought a drink for himself and sat down but no lady drinks, girls would still hesitate to go with him in normal times because they think he is a Cheap Charlie and they won't get a tip over the negotiated price. They're also not making money on lady drinks.
Seen enough guys sit in a gogo bar who do not buy lady drinks and wonder why he isn't getting any attention. Same guy goes to the same gogo bar for a few days in a row spending 2-3 k per night on lady drinks will have a swarm of girls by week's end. I've tried this myself.To each their own.
When I go to a Gogo bar, I usually order a water and am picky about who I buy lady drinks to. I have the disposable income, but I prefer to spend it on who I like rather than spraying it to attract fake unneeded attention from girls I am not interested in.
If you are respectful and let your preference known, you're all good with your 1 drink for the girl you want to know better.
If I don't see any girls I fancy or am interested talking to, I move to another bar.
Some guys splurge, spend and have a great time doing it, good for them, if that makes them happy.
Your money, your decision.
Chimpo Chinn
12-26-21, 04:57
To each their own.
When I go to a Gogo bar, I usually order a water and am picky about who I buy lady drinks to. I have the disposable income, but I prefer to spend it on who I like rather than spraying it to attract fake unneeded attention from girls I am not interested in.
If you are respectful and let your preference known, you're all good with your 1 drink for the girl you want to know better.
If I don't see any girls I fancy or am interested talking to, I move to another bar.
Some guys splurge, spend and have a great time doing it, good for them, if that makes them happy.
Your money, your decision.I lean towards cheap Charlie-ism myself. We pay the Bills. The profits come from the Hoi Poilloi. Similar to casino business model. The masses pay for the electric, etc. The whales enable dividends payouts etc. Also referred to as Profits.
Big McMeal in whenever $5.99. Now approaching $10.99.
Back then Hot girl was 1,500 her fee, barfine not included.
Somewhere in today's metaverse fee is 3,000 baht.
I don't get it. Why are people so opposed to today's Hooker prices. Their costs have gone up too.And now online a very hot girl is 1200 to 1500 Baht for 60 min one shot, including the room, and many times it's a very nice room. No BF and no lady drinks. And you don't have to sit in a loud bar with less than desirable music drinking the local swill or a weak mixed drink at crazy prices. Can have a great craft at a nice bar for that then go out and tear one off. I have no idea why people will pay the inflated prices on soi 7 and the like for girls who are really not that attractive. If they were gorgeous and performers then I could see it. I've had the prettiest girls in my 20 plus years here from online sites in the past 10 months and the majority of them perform better than most go go girls I've been with and a few were pure PSE Tulip style experiences. And my average price is 2,000 Baht for 2 hours two shots. But I do acknowledge that it's different for those of us who live here. You'll find very few long-term residents hanging out in the Nana or Cowboy bars. When we want to get laid we go online or to a massage parlor and when we want to hang out with our friends we go someplace where we can have a nice drink and talk. And of course we're price conscious. I imagine you are as well in your home country.
BTW, cost of a Big Mac meal isn't 11 bucks here.
Chimpo Chinn
12-26-21, 05:13
I didn't see anywhere is mentioned or complaining about price, but was just reminiscing of some good memories he had!Actually if you read his many posts on the topic. Let's say he is highly concerned.
He is way past the are word.
ElMexicant
12-26-21, 06:34
Bros,
Old sayings go. Either you know or don't know. Either you can or you cannot. Surprise. They both often go hand in hand. If you eat at Terminal 21 food court. You can pay 10 baht for cold Nestle bottled water. But did you know there is also a very cold filtered water dispenser with the your choice of price of nada, zippo, or free? The mind is a terrible thing to waist or hip ratio.
NicFrenchy
12-26-21, 08:32
I've had the prettiest girls in my 20 plus years here from online sites in the past 10 months and the majority of them perform better than most go go girls I've been with and a few were pure PSE Tulip style experiences. And my average price is 2,000 Baht for 2 hours two shots. I have to agree, there seem to be an aversion towards online girls here. Be it Fiwfans, Tinder, TFF, Badoo, I find the girls a lot better than your run-of-the-mill BG in attitude both on and off the sack.
The issue with non P4 P girls is that they are very easy to fall in love and another set of issues arise but that's not for discussion in a sex forum LOL.
But I do acknowledge that it's different for those of us who live here. You'll find very few long-term residents hanging out in the Nana or Cowboy bars. When we want to get laid we go online or to a massage parlor and when we want to hang out with our friends we go someplace where we can have a nice drink and talk.You hit the nail on the head here. I abhor beer bars, the whole aggressive atmosphere of it all (loud music, loud punters, loud half buzzed / drunk girls, pressure from mamasans or staff for you to drink faster or buy LD.). I much prefer the comfort of a nice place, where I can be and behave like a normal human being.
Maybe I am getting old, but even when I came to Thailand in my late 20's, I didn't enjoy the bar scene (back then was worse, all bars allowed smoking inside).
I understand some people like it, and good for them, we should not all like the same things.
Looking for hot girls and for something more towards jap style Entertainment. I've seen Kokoro and Doki Doki who seem to be on the same page. Any recommendations for either one or maybe there are better places?
Looking for hot girls and for something more towards jap style Entertainment. I've seen Kokoro and Doki Doki who seem to be on the same page. Any recommendations for either one or maybe there are better places?My list in order of preference: SOAP, Kokoro, Doki Doki. SOAP is the most expensive, but it was also the best "nuru porn" experience.
If it's not stricly nuru that you're after, then Momo or Daisy Dream would give you a great experience. "Pretty Massage" (next to Momo) apparently also does nuru, but I never had time to investigate. If anyone tries this out, please leave a report!
See my previous reports for more details on all of these. Would suggest contacting them all ahead of time to book the lady / ladies you like the look of.
Enjoy!
Looking for hot girls and for something more towards jap style Entertainment. I've seen Kokoro and Doki Doki who seem to be on the same page. Any recommendations for either one or maybe there are better places?Doki is 3200 if you make a reservation in advance, Kokoro is 3500. Rooms are nicer in Kokoro (sometimes there's no regular rooms avail and they charge you +500 for a VIP room which is not worth it). Service and experience seems to be similar in both. I would say the ladies look slightly better at Kokoro. Location is worse however. The receptionist at Kokoro was doki's old receptionist I think. Soap / Mitu is also still around. Good looking girls with better nuru experience but more expensive and shorter session. If you're looking for quality and not value ID go soap / mitu. Tossup between Kokoro and doki imo.
I am arriving in a week guys! Let me know some good spots to find the Chinese type fair chicks please.
If Delta did not kill us then how can Omicron do it. I am happy at the way Thailand government is acting mature at this point. I think they are pressured by the hotels and bars lobby to keep the inflow of tourists.
Any suggestions? I am all ears.
Banana Boi
12-27-21, 14:38
I am arriving in a week guys! Let me know some good spots to find the Chinese type fair chicks please.In normal times, all you would have had to do was follow a group of young Korean or Japanese guys at 8 pm. Pick any group they're all headed to the same places. Thaniya Road, top gogo bars like Baccara, Rainbow 4, King's Castle 2 where you see 95% Japanese and Korean, karaoke bars, Thermae, A few select oilies and soapies around Suk 24, Thai bars and discos.
PM some guys here who say they are in Bangkok and I'm certain most would be more than happy to show you around.
Chimpo Chinn
12-27-21, 17:29
In normal times, all you would have had to do was follow a group of young Korean or Japanese guys at 8 pm. Pick any group they're all headed to the same places. Thaniya Road, top gogo bars like Baccara, Rainbow 4, King's Castle 2 where you see 95% Japanese and Korean, karaoke bars, Thermae, A few select oilies and soapies around Suk 24, Thai bars and discos.
PM some guys here who say they are in Bangkok and I'm certain most would be more than happy to show you around.They are nowhere to be found. They be back when Japanese, Koreans, Hong Kong-ans, Singaporean s come back.
I've been told the quality of tourists currently arriving are not to their liking.
Chimpo Chinn
12-27-21, 19:49
I am arriving in a week guys! Let me know some good spots to find the Chinese type fair chicks please.
If Delta did not kill us then how can Omicron do it. I am happy at the way Thailand government is acting mature at this point. I think they are pressured by the hotels and bars lobby to keep the inflow of tourists.
Any suggestions? I am all ears.I have word from high level supervisor s that the light skinnards aren't coming back till the Japanese and Koreans and Singapore and come back en masses.
The guys currently jumping thru the hoops to get in are not worth the Trouble.
I am arriving in a week guys! Let me know some good spots to find the Chinese type fair chicks please.
If Delta did not kill us then how can Omicron do it. I am happy at the way Thailand government is acting mature at this point. I think they are pressured by the hotels and bars lobby to keep the inflow of tourists.
Any suggestions? I am all ears.Plenty of gals like this online.
I have word from high level supervisor s that the light skinnards aren't coming back till the Japanese and Koreans and Singapore and come back en masses.
The guys currently jumping thru the hoops to get in are not worth the Trouble.This is your high level stuporvisor?
Or the high level stuporvisor of the Light Skin Girls Union?
NicFrenchy
12-28-21, 04:22
In normal times, all you would have had to do was follow a group of young Korean or Japanese guys at 8 pm. Pick any group they're all headed to the same places. Thaniya Road, top gogo bars like Baccara, Rainbow 4, King's Castle 2 where you see 95% Japanese and Korean, karaoke bars, Thermae, A few select oilies and soapies around Suk 24, Thai bars and discos.
PM some guys here who say they are in Bangkok and I'm certain most would be more than happy to show you around.Things must've changed, when I was at Baccara and Rainbow4 last, the girls were far from your light skinned Chinese pretties. Were they prettier than other gogos? Maybe, but still your very average looking Thai girl, most of whom I wouldn't give a second look if met in the light of day.
Same goes for Massages around 24. Angels used to have "on paper" the pretty girls but "in-the-flesh" they were just average.
The real Chinese looking pretties will not be caught anywhere near P4 P places. They will be online, or in the shortlist of a high-end mamasan, for Thai old rich guys.
Guys that will make them a Gik and buy them an iphone, Airpods or a Chanel bag. NOT at all our market.
The real Chinese looking pretties will not be caught anywhere near P4 P places. They will be online, or in the shortlist of a high-end mamasan, for Thai old rich guys.
Guys that will make them a Gik and buy them an iphone, Airpods or a Chanel bag. NOT at all our market.At the minimum. The vast majority ethnic Chinese born in Thailand are upper middle or upper class. Its very rare for them to get into the game in any way. Other than the rare one at a nice soapy its more likely they work as "pretties" who don't do entertain (drink) and definitely don't do VIP (fuck). I know, because I prefer them and had access to agents in the past. Unless you're old its easier to just try and date a Thai- Chinese girl than it is to find one P4P LOL.
Banana Boi
12-28-21, 06:47
My post is relatively speaking. Thai girls are dark skinned with very few exceptions. If you want white skinned Asians, go to Japan or Korea or even Canada. Go to China or Hong Kong. Maybe Vietnam if you need to stay in SEA. In general they are dark in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Cambodia, and other poor SEA p4 p countries.
FilthyBeaver
12-28-21, 07:07
Northwest, Chiang Rai / Mai, have the most gorgeous girls in the country. It's cold, their skin is very fair and IMHO are far and away the most beautiful girls in all of Thailand. Used to be they'd congregate in the soapys on Ratchada but with Covid and RE prices in that area I hear there are a lot of hard times for businesses like that in the area. Can't wait to get back and figure out where they've gone.
Ask a Thai what he likes and where to find it, that'll be where the prettiest girls are. Unfortunately they usually have the least chance of speaking an international language so you'll rarely find them in the beer bars or typical faramg mongering spots and you need some basic Thai at least but God damn is it worth it. Probably 3 of the top 5 most gorgeous girls I've ever had sex with were from NW Thailand and I'm partial to European slavs.
My post is relatively speaking. Thai girls are dark skinned with very few exceptions. If you want white skinned Asians, go to Japan or Korea or even Canada. Go to China or Hong Kong. Maybe Vietnam if you need to stay in SEA. In general they are dark in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Cambodia, and other poor SEA p4 p countries.
Explorer8939
12-28-21, 07:13
My post is relatively speaking. Thai girls are dark skinned with very few exceptions. If you want white skinned Asians, go to Japan or Korea or even Canada. Go to China or Hong Kong. Maybe Vietnam if you need to stay in SEA. In general they are dark in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Cambodia, and other poor SEA p4 p countries.It's all relative. The average Thai lady is much lighter than those down by Malaysia.
Of course, in a gogo, it's hard to gauge skin color due to the lighting.
In general, I don't think about skin color unless they are really dark. And I don't really care, if they are dark, it's all good to me.
And I generally fuck with the lights off.
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I remember my first visit to Thailand several years ago and walking into a mall where there were a large congregation of Thai women watching a demonstration with models exhibiting how to use facial cream that would make your face and skin whiter. It was not first time that I would see this display and that's when I discovered there is a prejudice here towards darker skin folk. Kind of amazing when you think about it.
HorseTrader
12-28-21, 16:39
I remember my first visit to Thailand several years ago and walking into a mall where there were a large congregation of Thai women watching a demonstration with models exhibiting how to use facial cream that would make your face and skin whiter. It was not first time that I would see this display and that's when I discovered there is a prejudice here towards darker skin folk. Kind of amazing when you think about it.Yes, similar stuff is sold online by several of the non-P4P Thai women that I know. There are also many who refuse to be in the sun between 8 AM and 4 PM because they want to keep their skin light. They don't want to look like poor farm girl.
Banana Boi
12-28-21, 19:32
that's when I discovered there is a prejudice here towards darker skin folk. Kind of amazing when you think about it.Being darker skinned is a sign of being poor for some Asian countries. Poor people have to work outside while the rich have indoor office jobs or do not have to work. This is why you will see Asian girls carry an open umbrella when it's sunny outside. This is especially prevalent in Hong Kong and China. It's odd that in Western culture being tanned is a sign of looking better and wealth.
Yes, Thai girls buy that white powder and cream to make their skin look whiter. It's a huge business in Thailand.
- to Poseidon or Nataree in terms of the soapy experience?
By the way, I really like Analisa too for the PSE milking table threesome experience.
Also, other compelling sexperiences one might consider are Lolitas Blowjob Bar and Eden Club.
Last time at Eden, pre-pandemic, I got two ladies for a double BBBJ, rim / BBBJ combo, alternate fucking, fucking while getting pegged, greek, girl on girl, MSOG, no limits, true PSE, totally mind-blowing! FYI, usually Mick forces you to pick one you like and she picks an older sister who has more "experience" to choreograph the scene. However, I learned by chatting up and being nice to Mick, the proprietor he let me pick two younger ones. This led to an exceptionally good time.
Finally, who are Momo and May Chan? Are they by some miracle still around?
Depends on what you're after. If time is short for you, book ahead so you make sure you get who you want.
For me, it'd be, in order:
- Soapy / nuru: Mitu.
- Sweet GFE pampering: Momo or Mai Chan.
- PSE milking table: Analisa's.
- Roll the dice: FL off Sukhumvit or Smooci.
I'd also make sure to book in for a 2 hour Thai massage at one of the legit establishments (Lek, Asia Herb, etc.) - sex is fun, but a good Thai massage is heavenly, and usually expensive outside of Thailand.
Hope restrictions are not too heavy while you're there. A few ladies I've remained in contact with over Line have told me they've gone back home due to lack of customers and fear of covid.
Hi guys,
I'm coming into Bangkok 2 Jan., what's it like right now? And most importantly which area would you say has the best nightlife ATM in Bangkok, is soi cowboy etc still going.
Is rca still going strong along with khao san etc as I want to figure out where to book, I'm looking at sukhumvidt ATM.
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Being darker skinned is a sign of being poor for some Asian countries. Poor people have to work outside while the rich have indoor office jobs or do not have to work. This is why you will see Asian girls carry an open umbrella when it's sunny outside. This is especially prevalent in Hong Kong and China. It's odd that in Western culture being tanned is a sign of looking better and wealth.
Yes, Thai girls buy that white powder and cream to make their skin look whiter. It's a huge business in Thailand.In fact it was the same in western countries. At least mine (France) - before the 20th century, and for the same reason: tanned people were the farmer, so they are poor and not desirable.
Things changed in France and in some other European country) when people started to have leisure and holidays, especially since at the same time the doctors said the sun ans sport were good for health, so people started doing sport and other outdoor activities. And then a tanned skin was associated with healthy (and of course wealthy) people.
CockaSaurus
12-29-21, 20:35
- to Poseidon or Nataree in terms of the soapy experience?
By the way, I really like Analisa too for the PSE milking table threesome experience.
Also, other compelling sexperiences one might consider are Lolitas Blowjob Bar and Eden Club.
Last time at Eden, pre-pandemic, I got two ladies for a double BBBJ, rim / BBBJ combo, alternate fucking, fucking while getting pegged, greek, girl on girl, MSOG, no limits, true PSE, totally mind-blowing! FYI, usually Mick forces you to pick one you like and she picks an older sister who has more "experience" to choreograph the scene. However, I learned by chatting up and being nice to Mick, the proprietor he let me pick two younger ones. This led to an exceptionally good time.
Finally, who are Momo and May Chan? Are they by some miracle still around?From everything I've read and heard Eden is closed but supposedly they will reopen in a new location when there are less restrictions in the future.
- to Poseidon or Nataree in terms of the soapy experience?I'd say Mitu is more expensive, and no fishbowl selection, but some perfect nuru providers.
By the way, I really like Analisa too for the PSE milking table threesome experience.It was one of my favourite venues while visiting.
Also, other compelling sexperiences one might consider are Lolitas Blowjob Bar and Eden Club.Alas, both were closed when I was last in BKK in November.
Finally, who are Momo and May Chan? Are they by some miracle still around?They're massage shops, and were open in November, although staff sometimes were limited. Aimed at Japanese clients rather than Westerners, but some lovely GFE was provided.
Check my previous posts "Tom's Thai Trip" for details on some of the sessions at Mitu, Momo and Mai Chan. Looking forward to hearing more. Hopefuly positive. Updates in 2022.
Hi guys,
I'm coming into Bangkok 2 Jan., what's it like right now? And most importantly which area would you say has the best nightlife ATM in Bangkok, is soi cowboy etc still going.
Is rca still going strong along with khao san etc as I want to figure out where to book, I'm looking at sukhumvidt ATM.You mention RCA and Khaosan Road, which suggests you might be into the nightclub and social scene more than or as well as a direct Freelancer, Bargirl P4 P scene, right? If so, I don't have much input to offer on that since the former is not really my thing. I'm not even sure how Khaosan Road has worked its way into the list of options of late in terms of Freelancers, Bargirls and the typical Lower Sukhumvit P4 P vibe and opportunities since, to my mind, it was and still is mostly a family-friendly, touristy restaurant and loud bar area where we go to check out chubby European pack-packer girls with, for the most part, their very tall European back-packer boyfriends.
Yes, there is a nearby very low end street girl scene on the other side of Ratchadamnoen Klang Ave. But I wouldn't recommend any punter I know to book a hotel room in that area just to be near it. There are also a couple of very Thai-centric nightclubs inside the small and narrow Susie Walking Street short cut between Khaosan Road and Rambuttri Road. But unless you are a 20-something year old Thai boy, I wouldn't recommend trying to score a fuck there. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing some age-old secret hooker draw in the Khaosan Road area that everyone else has known about but me. If so, please disregard my comments about it and enjoy.
But on the biggest, most visible and easily accessible live-and-in-the-flesh Freelancer and Bargirl options, the choices in Bangkok at the moment are, with 1 being the biggest:
1. Sukhumvit Sois 4, 6, 7, 8 and 11.
2. Soi Cowboy.
3. Patpong 1 and 2.
Moving from the bottom up, Patpong 1 and 2 are beginning to show more signs of life, but are still mostly dark with only a handful of bars open and operating as beer bars, not go-go bars. I would find the pickings to be too small to choose a hotel room nearby just to be close to it.
Soi Cowboy is beginning to rock a lot more lately since they have followed suit with the Soi 4/ Nana Plaza format of converting some of their go-go bars into patio beer bars in order to deal with the Covid restrictions.
But the Sukhumvit Sois 4, 6, 7, 8 and 11 area is still the area going strongest now in terms of live-and-in-the-flesh Freelancers, Bargirls, customers and party vibe.
The distance between Soi Cowboy and, at the furthest point from there in this part of Bangkok, Soi 4, is so minor it almost wouldn't matter which side your hotel favored. If you're staying closer to Soi Cowboy then you would also be closer to those Happy Ending faux massage shops in the Soi 22 and up area. But, again, that isn't my thing so I can't offer much info on it.
I should also mention that the number of girls and customers in the Sukhumvit Sois 4, etc area was down this past Christmas weekend, during this week and is likely to be down this coming New Years Eve / Day weekend. Much of that is because many of the girls return to their province to be with their family for New Years Eve / Day and may have left earlier last weekend. But some of it could also be new fears about a potential Omicron variant spread. Hard to say. I rarely meet a Bargirl or Freelancer anymore who doesn't brag about having been vaccinated already and some are even going for a booster shot. So there is concern about it. But I also no longer hear stories about this or that friend or relative being stricken with serious illness due to Covid, which I assume is a positive by-product of all the vaccinating that has been going on in Bangkok.
As far as a comparison of the girls and party activities between those Sois 4, etc and Soi Cowboy, I can only offer this personal anecdote from last night. I cruised down Soi Cowboy last night about 8:30 PM and was enthusiastically flagged down by a Soi Cowboy go-go dancer I had recently taken from the temporarily converted Nana Plaza ground level beer bar area a couple of times looking sexy enough to buy a drink for her, pay the 700 baht barfine and bring her back to my apartment for a Short Time. Now, when I took her from the Nana Plaza bar area, our ST was just fine, no hassles, no unpleasant surprises, this early 20's year old, fit hard body, smooth skin honey was as sweet and accommodating in my bed as I would ever have wanted.
However, I swear there is something about that Soi Cowboy area that has always reeked of scam to me. And, sure enough, simply because I took her from a line up of girls standing outside her Soi Cowboy go-go bar instead of the Sois 4, etc area, she behaved completely different in my bed. And not for the better. She started resisting DFK and BBBJ as mere foreplay. Mind you, this girl was all over me after our first ST a few weeks back to please, please repeat with her. As she did last night on Soi Cowboy. But this night in my bed, after she moved her business location from the Nana area to Soi Cowboy where she danced in a go-go bar pre-Covid, she turned into just another, imo, Soi Cowboy bullshitter. I aborted the mission after about 6 minutes of her bullshit, got up, we got dressed, I put an overly generous 500 baht next to her purse for her time and nakedness and waved bye-bye at my apartment door.
I then went back out to cruise through the Soi 7 bar collection area, spied an adorable little cutie I'd only nodded and smiled Hello to in passing a couple of weeks ago and this time decided to respond to her encouragement to sit for one drink. Very quickly I vetted her for BBFS+CIP, yes or no. She gave me the right answer, Yes, and so I paid the barfine and took her back to my room. That's right, I took a girl from the now infamously "horrendous" quality line up of girls from those Soi 7 bars.
All I can say is, this "horrendous" sweetheart was even more adorable completely naked in my bed, her lovely light skin as smooth as satin, cute as hell face and kissable lips, a slim, well proportioned, all natural body and candy apple butt no bigger than two handfuls. In the USA, she would have been carded to assure she was old enough to enter a bar. I think she was probably mid-20's at the most. Completely responsive and cooperative for DFK, her BBBJ felt like real love, she and I both relished my few moments of DATY before I entered that delicious, snug snatch and pumped on into paradise and a mind-blowing Real Sex finish. We exchanged Line info afterwards and I have gotten several Love, Kisses and Hearts stickers ever since. I will definitely repeat.
I only offer that personal anecdote to underscore what I have found over the years to be a strange "bar culture" difference between Soi Cowboy and the Nana bar areas. For whatever weird reason, taking a girl in Soi Cowboy has always meant an extra risk of scam and bullshit in the room. Swear to god, even with a girl I had taken earlier from the Nana area with no problems at all! LOL. Go figure. I do believe girls alter their behavior and style to fit whatever level of scam or, on the other side, good customer relations seems to be the culture of a particular bar area. In fact, it even shows up from bar to bar. And last night was about as exemplary a case in point to substantiate that belief as any I have experienced in a long while.
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But on the biggest, most visible and easily accessible live-and-in-the-flesh Freelancer and Bargirl options, the choices in Bangkok at the moment are, with 1 being the biggest:
1. Sukhumvit Sois 4, 6, 7, 8 and 11.
2. Soi Cowboy.
3. Patpong 1 and 2.
...But the Sukhumvit Sois 4, 6, 7, 8 and 11 area is still the area going strongest now in terms of live-and-in-the-flesh Freelancers, Bargirls, customers and party vibe...Nice intel. Thanks for taking the time and writing this report.
NicFrenchy
12-30-21, 05:38
BMA closes pubs, bars, karaokes, massage parlours until January 15.
https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40010576
...As far as a comparison of the girls and party activities between those Sois 4, etc and Soi Cowboy, I can only offer this personal anecdote from last night..I forgot to report more info on what was discussed pre-barfine and what I paid the girls I took last night in addition to the 700 baht barfine for each.
The girl I took from Soi Cowboy who was sweet and accommodating the first 2 times I took her from the Nana bar area over the past few weeks but reverted back to her, in my experience, typically troublesome bullshitter Soi Cowboy ways in bed never quoted a price any of the times I took her and seemed more than fine with the 1,500 baht for Short Time I gave her previously. She also seemed understanding and accepting of the 500 baht I gave her last night when I aborted the mission pre penetration due to her crap attitude.
The totally accommodating sweetie from the Soi 7 bar also did not mention money or quote a price beforehand and I gave her 1,500 baht for our Short Time. Then she asked for my Line info so we could meet again and she sent Love, Kisses and Hearts stickers to say goodnight and good morning.
The only sex-related questions I asked in the bar before I took her were if she was ok to kiss me with our tongues touching, for which she proved Yes in the bar, would she like it if I kissed and licked her pussy in my room and if she felt ok to boom boom me with no condom. Yes and Yes. Those were the same questions I had asked the Soi Cowboy bullshitter girl our first time, too.
Member #4753
12-30-21, 06:00
BMA closes pubs, bars, karaokes, massage parlours until January 15.
https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40010576The Omicron storm that is surely coming will probably see this date extended to January 30 as best case, probably February is more realistic.
ElMexicant
12-30-21, 06:27
BMA closes pubs, bars, karaokes, massage parlours until January 15.
https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40010576Meanwhile, after the new year. I will check into a Japanese owned, Thai ran, Privat in Bangkok for a week long stay, just like the ones in Prague with many girls working out of. Basically, it's an all you can bang buffet from 0900-0200 for only1200 per session with over 75 girls to choose from. Rhymes with No No Smell. Have a good New Year bro!
Houston Player
12-30-21, 07:37
BMA closes pubs, bars, karaokes, massage parlours until January 15.
https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40010576
The Omicron storm that is surely coming will probably see this date extended to January 30 as best case, probably February is more realistic.This was actually an extension of a November 29th directive. So it seems that no one is currently paying any attention to it.
Captain Solo
12-30-21, 09:54
Looks like there are far more girls in bars and on streets than guys, a buyers' market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE
Banana Boi
12-30-21, 11:17
Only scanned through video. Way too many ladyboys and no gogo quality girls. Saw some Thermae girls. 9:06 girl with short hair and bangs on her phone. 7:05 to 7:55 girl in the light purple dress standing beside tall ladyboy.
ElMexicant
12-30-21, 12:05
Looks like there are far more girls in bars and on streets than guys, a buyers' market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzEThanks bro! Lot less glamorous on the quality than some of the recent reports. Time to wiggle that hand out from the fortune cookie jar.
Captain Solo
12-30-21, 12:06
Banana Boi.
Some girls are tall, small boobs, but look damn sexy and act feminine.
I cannot confirm unless I talk to them, hear their voices, or grope their crotches.
How do you tell? What are your secrets?
Why are real girls not working?
Looks like there are far more girls in bars and on streets than guys, a buyers' market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzEHmm. Those YouTube videographers must schedule the shoot to make sure there will be the least amount of people on the streets and in the bars so as not to interfere with their smooth and steady gliding camera moves. LOL.
That must have been either a Sunday night or a Monday night around 6 pm.
I mentioned in a previous report that the number of girls and customers was down over Christmas weekend, during this week and will likely be down this coming New Years weekend due to some girls heading to their province for the holidays. But even a down Christmas weekend and last night was not as deserted as that video suggested. Last night about 8:30 pm it was almost impossible to slowly ride a motorbike down Soi Cowboy through the crowd.
There were few empty barstools in those Soi 7 bars for all the girls and customers last night And that was a Wednesday night. In the video, the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 7 was free and clear. It has not been like that most nights for weeks. By 7:30 pm it is crammed with Tuk Tuks delivering and picking up customers with girls and motorbike riders looking for a place to park.
Actually, there are several more bars open in the past few weeks the video showed were closed. And, unless I missed it, they did not even take a shot of Nana Plaza where the ground level has been one big crowded beer bar for a month or two.
The first description of the video says it is how the area looks at the end of December 2021. But when you expand the description it says the video was taken "November 2021".
Whenever it was, that is not how the area and the bars have looked re girls and customers by around 7:30 - 8 pm on a regular Friday or Saturday night in the past month or two. Not unless there are Covid closures again, which I have not seen as of this Thursday afternoon and early evening.
Looks like there are far more girls in bars and on streets than guys, a buyers' market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE"Mr. Santoyo.
1 day ago (edited).
Dang going back to Thailand again in April I can't wait, just got back from Colombia 2 weeks ago. 😁 Cheers🍻.
Saw the above comment in the video. Thailand lost thousands of tourists to Colombia this year, including you Captain.
Axel Heyst
12-30-21, 18:15
Looks like there are far more girls in bars and on streets than guys, a buyers' market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzEIt is an interesting video showing a little of what the BKK Sukhumvit nightlife scene is like these days. Thanks for posting it.
But things looked pretty dismal to me. Even open bars like Morning Night bar and Stumble are a shadow of their former selves and Cowboy looked dismal. Now I know the main sourcing for good looking girls has shifted to the internet and I am sure I would do alright if I were in Bangkok, but the night life street scene which was once one of the highlights of being in BKK is currently very depressing IMHO and there is not much to look forward after jumping through all the hoops required to get into the country. So, I think I will pass for the foreseeable future. Hopefully things will reopen and get lively again when the Pandemic slides into the Endemic. Hopefully.
I frequently notice that the time and date of these vlogs are misstated and / or misleading.
However, I wonder how long this party atmosphere in Bangkok can continue with Omicron breathing down the neck of many cities worldwide. In Paris, France, one is now required to wear a mask outside in public and all night clubs remain closed at least to the end of
January. New Years Eve festivities worldwide have been shut down and / or strictly regulated as to crowd size etc.
The current outbreak in Kalasin and Isan is bound to spread. This occurred due to a Thai couple returning from Belgium, testing negative upon entry, and then inadvertently spreading the virus directly or indirectly to an estimated 248 people in that area. The cases developed and expanded because they visited many restaurants and clubs in Isan who were not following proper Covid protocol. In one instance, Covid 19 was discovered in one of the a/c units. It's only a matter of time for it to descend in full force in Bangkok. The end days are near, I suspect for Bangkok, and it's "reopening".
Hmm. Those YouTube videographers must schedule the shoot to make sure there will be the least amount of people on the streets and in the bars so as not to interfere with their smooth and steady gliding camera moves. LOL.
That must have been either a Sunday night or a Monday night around 6 pm.
I mentioned in a previous report that the number of girls and customers was down over Christmas weekend, during this week and will likely be down this coming New Years weekend due to some girls heading to their province for the holidays. But even a down Christmas weekend and last night was not as deserted as that video suggested. Last night about 8:30 pm it was almost impossible to slowly ride a motorbike down Soi Cowboy through the crowd.
There were few empty barstools in those Soi 7 bars for all the girls and customers last night And that was a Wednesday night. In the video, the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 7 was free and clear. It has not been like that most nights for weeks. By 7:30 pm it is crammed with Tuk Tuks delivering and picking up customers with girls and motorbike riders looking for a place to park.
Actually, there are several more bars open in the past few weeks the video showed were closed. And, unless I missed it, they did not even take a shot of Nana Plaza where the ground level has been one big crowded beer bar for a month or two.
The first description of the video says it is how the area looks at the end of December 2021. But when you expand the description it says the video was taken "November 2021".
Whenever it was, that is not how the area and the bars have looked re girls and customers by around 7:30 - 8 pm on a regular Friday or Saturday night in the past month or two. Not unless there are Covid closures again, which I have not seen as of this Thursday afternoon and early evening.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-30-21, 18:54
Looks like there are far more girls in bars and on streets than guys, a buyers' market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzEApparently the reverse in Pattaya, so people may want to avoid going there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58
It is an interesting video showing a little of what the BKK Sukhumvit nightlife scene is like these days. Thanks for posting it.
But things looked pretty dismal to me. Even open bars like Morning Night bar and Stumble are a shadow of their former selves and Cowboy looked dismal. Now I know the main sourcing for good looking girls has shifted to the internet and I am sure I would do alright if I were in Bangkok, but the night life street scene which was once one of the highlights of being in BKK is currently very depressing IMHO and there is not much to look forward after jumping through all the hoops required to get into the country. So, I think I will pass for the foreseeable future. Hopefully things will reopen and get lively again when the Pandemic slides into the Endemic. Hopefully.I would estimate early November to be when that video was taken. Prior to the predicted "some Nana go-go bars reopening" around the 3rd week of November, which turned out to be true only in that some reopened as beer bars and they reopened a few days later than predicted.
The giveaways in the video for that likely timeframe are, among other things, Big Dogs Bar on Soi 4 at the entrance to Nana Plaza is closed and it has been open daytime and evening for over a month, there was no effort to get any shot at all into Nana Plaza and that is where several go-go bars on the ground floor started to reopen as beer bars more than a month ago requiring the pre-Covid security team to manage crowd control at the entrance, the empty cubicles on the left side of Soi 7 before you see Random Bar are still covered with screens where there are now 4-5 new open bars and 2-3 more between Random Bar and Beer Garden, there was practically no one in front of Thermae where for weeks now you could count a dozen or so genuine females and groups of, yep, Asian customers stopping to chat with them and take some almost any night of the week, the near desolate shots of Soi Cowboy that has not been the case for 2-3 weeks and the very little vehicle traffic on Soi 4, Soi 7 and Sukhumvit Road where there has been almost as much heavy traffic as normal times for weeks.
Also, if I am not mistaken since the lighting was a bit dark, there is a shot where you can see the big Christmas tree in front of Terminal 21 in the background but it is not even fully assembled yet. BTW, the sign on that tree as it is now and has been since early November wishes all of us a Merry Christmas 2022!
That video might have been posted on YouTube at the end of December 2021. But it was obviously shot sometime in early November, before Nana Plaza partially reopened, several other bars reopened, new ones followed along with more customer traffic and more girls showing up for work. And even then it might have been fairly early in the evening on a rather slow night of the week.
That said, many of the pre-Covid beer bars are a shadow of their former selves, pre-Covid. But none of those areas are shadows of their former selves from 1 year ago or 18 months ago. LOL.
Member #4753
12-30-21, 21:39
The current outbreak in Kalasin and Isan is bound to spread. It has probably already spread to most tourists areas and is quiety bubbling along. Bangkok is probably just 2 to 3 weeks behind Europe and the USA. Just the last 2 days infections has started to turn up again. Probably will explode next week.
The good news is that it appears to cause less serious illness than Delta and due to the explosive infectious nature will probably peak very quickly and subside just as fast. Hopeully we peak in Late Feb. And is mostly gone by late March?
I recently visited Passion, located in side soi of Suk Soi 22 in a ramshackle building of the usual variety. I was greeted by a gaggle of highly enthusiastic girls and the explicit menu card. I picked HJ massage for 1300 be with "Note", a small girl with a sweet smile and attitude. She ushered me upstairs to the dismal room for a quick shower, light massage and then she started on the hand job. She quickly acquiesced on my requests for her to get naked, open her legs so I could probe her wet pussy, and ultimately, she got on her back with me kneeling over her, so I could unload onto her eager face. She even opened her mouth to allow some to run in and taste it. She was a good conversationalist and great bed partner. Good days.
Captain Solo
12-31-21, 01:21
Axel.
Those were the fun times drinking with your friends all night, flirting, doing risky things with bar girls not allowed in the US.
The girls look good in the vid, tall, slim, feminine, just have to make sure they don't carry big dicks hehe. I was in bars in Bogota, Cartagena and Medellin Colombia in early December. The few slim girls, without heavy, pear-shaped bodies, were trannies with deep broken voices. They look hot but tend to be stiff, aloof, not socializing with other girls or flirting with guys.
What are the best ways to access Thai girls online?
Are dating sites like Thaicupid still producing civies dates?
My wingmen and I are having fun in Tijuana clubs where mileage with bar girls is high, but we still want to explore exotic places in Asia. We are waiting for Asia to open up to do a tour of major hot spots, aiming for spots where thousands nice, hot, fresh girls, like this one, are available to have fun with us.
Banana Boi
12-31-21, 02:31
ET, you as well as anyone on here would know to within a week when that video was shot. All you need to do is look at which bars were open. It's possible it was shot in November and it's possible it was shot last week but anyone on the ground would know when it was shot. At least I know I would if I were in Bangkok.
Is it possible for you or others who are on the ground to snap a few photos from a distance on how busy things are. Not asking for close ups of girls rather just to get a general sense how busy it is. I know it's douche to take videos but snapping a photo down Soi Cowboy or along one of the bars sois isn't imo.
My issue wasn't how busy it was. There were enough girls I guess. Just take all the girls who worked at Thermae and Baccara and now spread them all over lower Sukhumvit. My issue is the quality isn't there.
Capt Solo, not sure how experienced you are in Thailand but if you live there long enough you will know a ladyboy when you see one. I err on the side of caution for lb's but don't think I'm wrong in that video that there were a ton of lb's! FYI I classify post-ops as lb's. One of my favorite gogo girls in Pattaya is always mistaken as a lb because she is too good looking and 5'8" without heels. Being tall isn't the determining factor there are a lot of 5'0"-5'2" Thai men too.
Explorer8939
12-31-21, 03:23
Apparently the reverse in Pattaya, so people may want to avoid going there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58Only quiet areas are shown in the video.
ET, you as well as anyone on here would know to within a week when that video was shot. All you need to do is look at which bars were open. It's possible it was shot in November and it's possible it was shot last week but anyone on the ground would know when it was shot. At least I know I would if I were in Bangkok.
Is it possible for you or others who are on the ground to snap a few photos from a distance on how busy things are. Not asking for close ups of girls rather just to get a general sense how busy it is. I know it's douche to take videos but snapping a photo down Soi Cowboy or along one of the bars sois isn't imo.
My issue wasn't how busy it was. There were enough girls I guess. Just take all the girls who worked at Thermae and Baccara and now spread them all over lower Sukhumvit. My issue is the quality isn't there..BB, I did list several giveaways in the video that tell me it was probably shot in early November, right before many more bars opened including in Nana Plaza and therefore many more customers and consequently many more girls started showing up in a previous post but I know you hadn't seen it yet as it takes several hours if not the next day for my posts to appear lately.
I do plan to take some photos of the same general areas covered in that video this weekend. Bear in mind, I don't expect there to be nearly as many girls around during this particular weekend compared to the weeks prior to Christmas since so many girls I know are already in their province to be with their family for New Years.
So I will also try for some photos next weekend as well.
As the steady increase in old bars reopening and new bars opening has evolved, the present and available girls and customers have also spread thinner here and there; when only some Soi 7 bars were open and active but none on Soi 4, the Soi 7 bars were packed. Then Soi 4 bars began to open and people migrated to some of them. Then Nana Plaza, then Soi Cowboy, then more bars opened on all the pertinent sois and little by little more customers and girls were showing up everywhere and even then Soi 7 and the Nana Plaza ground level bars were still packed many nights.
Then we've had these holiday weekends where girls typically stop working. And who knows what new fears about Omicron will do.
BTW, unless I am mistaken about which tall "lady" you were referring to in that video, the tall older looking one seen around the time marker you cited is indeed a genuine female who is rather aggressive about grabbing passers by to sit and have a drink, is very fluent in English and seems get customers to sit with her for a drink quite often.
Chimpo Chinn
12-31-21, 06:57
Banana Boi.
Some girls are tall, small boobs, but look damn sexy and act feminine.
I cannot confirm unless I talk to them, hear their voices, or grope their crotches.
How do you tell? What are your secrets?
Why are real girls not working?My guess because the Demographic of customers is not to their Liking. Koreans and Japanese and Hkg and Sin countries are are in Crazy mode too.
Banana Boi
12-31-21, 12:08
BB, I did list several giveaways in the video that tell me it was probably shot in early November, right before many more bars opened <snip> but I know you hadn't seen it yet as it takes several hours if not the next day for my posts to appear lately.Yes, I did not see your posts until well after I posted.
I agree with you don't bother posting photos this week. Wait til next week to give guys here a fair representation of how things are like.
My guess because the Demographic of customers is not to their Liking. Koreans and Japanese and Hkg and Sin countries are are in Crazy mode too.Most of the bar girls will stay home to tend to their families until the bars fully reopen. Since ladyboys don't have the same familial obligations, they are flooding the streets in BKK and Pattaya.
Videos I have seen between BKK and Pattaya show me that BKK has a lot more girls presently working the bar scene than what is in Pattaya.
Captain Solo
12-31-21, 18:57
Chimpo,
May be real women are scared of CoVid, affecting their families and children, but lady boys are brave and don't give a shit.
You said Koreans ad Japanese women in Singapore are in crazy mode?
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Videos I have seen between BKK and Pattaya show me that BKK has a lot more girls presently working the bar scene than what is in Pattaya.From what I can tell, having been in both Bangkok and Pattaya is that there are far fewer women about yet that is balanced by the number of bars etc that are open and the number of male customers. Pattaya has only just started to open up and the girls are slowly returning from the villages as the mongers on the ground increase.
From what I can tell, having been in both Bangkok and Pattaya is that there are far fewer women about yet that is balanced by the number of bars etc that are open and the number of male customers. Pattaya has only just started to open up and the girls are slowly returning from the villages as the mongers on the ground increase.Many are probably worried about another shutdown due to omnicron. I think it will be a very slow trickle back for at least another month.
Many are probably worried about another shutdown due to omnicron. I think it will be a very slow trickle back for at least another month.I'm thinking slow trickle back for at least 6 months, maybe longer.
Chimpo Chinn
01-01-22, 20:03
Chimpo,
May be real women are scared of CoVid, affecting their families and children, but lady boys are brave and don't give a shit.
You said Koreans ad Japanese women in Singapore are in crazy mode?I meant the countries are in Crazy mode regarding traveling. Upon return people have to jump thru insanity hoops to be a regular person again.
I listen to Sin radio. They changing rules all the time. Just like Thailand.
Japanese big user of Ivermectin but still pretty much shut.
HorseTrader
01-02-22, 05:01
I'm thinking slow trickle back for at least 6 months, maybe longer.I'm guessing there will be a peak in mid-to-late January and then omicron will hammer Thailand. Tourists will disappear, much like March 2020. This totally screws my flight schedules.
I'm expecting recovery from omicron to be quick and tourism will start building back up after high season, about April 2022. No idea when gamma or upsilon or whatever will appear and slam planet earth again.
Chimpo,
May be real women are scared of CoVid, affecting their families and children, but lady boys are brave and don't give a shit.Women have other employment opportunities. Ladyboys do not. Many businesses will not hire a ladyboy and there are no laws against discrimination here.
The next letter in the Greek alphabet is Pi, which some might say stands also for infinity in math calculations.
I'm guessing there will be a peak in mid-to-late January and then omicron will hammer Thailand. Tourists will disappear, much like March 2020. This totally screws my flight schedules.
I'm expecting recovery from omicron to be quick and tourism will start building back up after high season, about April 2022. No idea when gamma or upsilon or whatever will appear and slam planet earth again.
To close the loop. Indeed I sent the wrong tx ID. And it's fixed now. However all messages from admins went in my spam folder, so that's the reason I missed them. Maybe add some disclaimer that one should check their spam folder. Thanks!
I will update this forum once I hear back. But in the meantime I would not recommend anyone to buy a subscription using bitcoin. Maybe the forum admins are on holidays. And will come back at some point.
You have to send us the TXID and we answered you, the one you sent does not match with any in our pay list.
Admin3
El Frances
01-02-22, 16:00
BMA closes pubs, bars, karaokes, massage parlours until January 15.
https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40010576Hi guys.
Does it mean hillary 2 soi 4, nana plaza and other similar places are now closed?
Chimpo Chinn
01-02-22, 17:50
I'm guessing there will be a peak in mid-to-late January and then omicron will hammer Thailand. Tourists will disappear, much like March 2020. This totally screws my flight schedules.
I'm expecting recovery from omicron to be quick and tourism will start building back up after high season, about April 2022. No idea when gamma or upsilon or whatever will appear and slam planet earth again.Tourism will not be building back up anytime soon.
Tourist are being Treated very badly right now.
Plus ornerous paperwork still in place.
Hi guys.
Does it mean hillary 2 soi 4, nana plaza and other similar places are now closed?As of last night those places in Bangkok were still open. It was very quiet due to the New Years weekend family get-togethers, but those places were open.
Bristol107
01-03-22, 21:45
Evening.
Visiting Bangkok in January this year for 3 weeks.
I would like to hire a sexy lady for my stay.
Who likes the adult life and would be my girlfriend for 8 hours a day.
On a regular basis.
Where best to arrange such a lady please.
Can any one recommend web site or apps please.
Last 2 times in Bangkok I met some very sexy ladies but not for a regular amount of time.
Evening.
Visiting Bangkok in January this year for 3 weeks.
I would like to hire a sexy young lady for my stay.
Who likes the adult life and would be my girlfriend for 8 hours a day.
On a regular basis.
Where best to arrange such a lady please.
Can any one recommend web site or apps please.
Last 2 times in Bangkok I met some very sexy ladies but not for a regular amount of time.I suggest you have a 12"x15" cardboard sign hanging on your chest with "Wanted PT LT girl for 3 weeks". Stand on the corner of Soi 7 and Sukimvit.
Chimpo Chinn
01-04-22, 04:56
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Member #4753
01-04-22, 07:40
I suggest you have a 12"x15" cardboard sign hanging on your chest with "Wanted PT LT girl for 3 weeks". Stand on the corner of Soi 7 and Sukimvit.That is so funny. Would be interesting to see who came up to you though.
GuyBrusg1957
01-05-22, 04:37
Is Poseidon, Nataree, La Belle or any of the other large Soapy Massages still open? I thought many of them closed with the pandemic?
- to Poseidon or Nataree in terms of the soapy experience?
By the way, I really like Analisa too for the PSE milking table threesome experience.
Also, other compelling sexperiences one might consider are Lolitas Blowjob Bar and Eden Club.
Last time at Eden, pre-pandemic, I got two ladies for a double BBBJ, rim / BBBJ combo, alternate fucking, fucking while getting pegged, greek, girl on girl, MSOG, no limits, true PSE, totally mind-blowing! FYI, usually Mick forces you to pick one you like and she picks an older sister who has more "experience" to choreograph the scene. However, I learned by chatting up and being nice to Mick, the proprietor he let me pick two younger ones. This led to an exceptionally good time.
Finally, who are Momo and May Chan? Are they by some miracle still around?
Is Poseidon, Nataree, La Belle or any of the other large Soapy Massages still open? I thought many of them closed with the pandemic?Nataree has been closed for 4? Years. They got busted for underage and illegal workers. Poseidon is being / has been turned into a hotel.
NicFrenchy
01-05-22, 04:51
Is Poseidon, Nataree, La Belle or any of the other large Soapy Massages still open? I thought many of them closed with the pandemic?They're still closed.
GuyBrusg1957
01-06-22, 06:09
Nataree has been closed for 4? Years. They got busted for underage and illegal workers. Poseidon is being / has been turned into a hotel.Blah, what big soapies are left? Emmanuel and La Belle?
Evening.
Visiting Bangkok in January this year for 3 weeks.
I would like to hire a sexy lady for my stay.
Who likes the adult life and would be my girlfriend for 8 hours a day.
On a regular basis.
Where best to arrange such a lady please.
Can any one recommend web site or apps please.
Last 2 times in Bangkok I met some very sexy ladies but not for a regular amount of time.Their pimps wouldn't stand for it they would want a huge amount of money, its not the 80's and 90's when it was easy to do this.
Chimpo Chinn
01-06-22, 21:49
I'm hearing from numerous sources plans to turn Poseidon into a Hello Kitty Thailand Hub. Does mesh with current government s vision for Thailand.
That is so funny. Would be interesting to see who came up to you though.I am thinking of making preprinted T-shirts with this on it!
NicFrenchy
01-07-22, 02:33
Evening.
Visiting Bangkok in January this year for 3 weeks.
I would like to hire a sexy lady for my stay.
Who likes the adult life and would be my girlfriend for 8 hours a day.
On a regular basis.
Where best to arrange such a lady please.
Can any one recommend web site or apps please.
Last 2 times in Bangkok I met some very sexy ladies but not for a regular amount of time.If you want this to be somewhat structured, your best bet is escort agencies (go to the escort section).
It will be expensive though. https://smooci.com/bangkok.
Member #4753
01-07-22, 02:44
I am thinking of making preprinted T-shirts with this on it!Haha.
Do not forget to Add Line QR Code.
I would say about 70% of the bars that were open just prior to New Years weekend are still closed this weekend.
None of the Soi 7 collection of bars and down the small alley were open last night, Friday night. Only Beer Garden was open.
Same with the bars on Soi 11, all closed. Only 2-3 open as beer bars on Soi Cowboy. Oh, and this weekend as well as last weekend, clinic techs were administering free fast Covid tests at each entrance to Soi Cowboy. I am not sure if they were voluntary tests or required to enter. I just rode by to check out the area.
Most Soi 4 beer bars, the big one inside Nana Plaza and the bars on Soi 8 were open.
Consequently, the girl numbers are way down this weekend all around too. I only saw 2-3 real girls standing around in front of the still closed Thermae at 9 pm.
This was apparently the holiday plan all along. The 3-4 girls I know who freelance or sometimes work in the bars told me before they left for their provinces they would probably return to Bangkok on the 10th. We'll see if many stay in their family province longer due to Omicron fears.
Member #4753
01-08-22, 15:20
Last week I knew of many girls in Phuket and Pattaya that were getting covid.
This week it seems to have started to hit Bangkok.
Looks like the expected tidal wave is coming.
Last week I knew of many girls in Phuket and Pattaya that were getting covid.
This week it seems to have started to hit Bangkok.
Looks like the expected tidal wave is coming.Thanks for sharing the information. I do think a mini tsunami is coming.
The bigger question is. When will we see a return to 50% pre-pandemic normalcy?
3 months from now or 6 or even more?
Finnish Fucker
01-08-22, 17:41
Is it possible for you or others who are on the ground to snap a few photos from a distance on how busy things are. Not asking for close ups of girls rather just to get a general sense how busy it is. I know it's douche to take videos but snapping a photo down Soi Cowboy or along one of the bars sois isn't imo.
Hey BB,
Here are some photos for you from the past 2 days.
- Twister agogo inside and Nana Plaza on Thursday 6th Jan at 20.00. Yesterday was even more busy. Enough good looking bar girls around.
- Soi Cowboy on Thursday 6th Jan at 22.00. Everyone who has visited this street before should visit now and see the grim contrast.
- Carlton Hotel Executive Suite bathroom entrance on Friday 7th Jan in the evening. Great hotel BTW!
Take care.
Banana Boi
01-08-22, 17:49
Thanks for the pics, FF. Nice to hear you're in Thailand. Good choice on your bathroom door attendant.
CockaSaurus
01-08-22, 20:13
Hey BB,
Here are some photos for you from the past 2 days.
- Twister agogo inside and Nana Plaza on Thursday 6th Jan at 20.00. Yesterday was even more busy. Enough good looking bar girls around.
- Soi Cowboy on Thursday 6th Jan at 22.00. Everyone who has visited this street before should visit now and see the grim contrast.
- Carlton Hotel Executive Suite bathroom entrance on Friday 7th Jan in the evening. Great hotel BTW!
Take care.Thank you for sharing the pics.
Nana Plaza seems to be doing pretty well and nice ass on the girl.
Chimpo Chinn
01-08-22, 21:53
Thanks for sharing the information. I do think a mini tsunami is coming.
The bigger question is. When will we see a return to 50% pre-pandemic normalcy?
3 months from now or 6 or even more?The time to be optimistic is when airlines start flying into Bangkok again.
Remember they out to October, something like that.
Bristol107
01-08-22, 22:16
Their pimps wouldn't stand for it they would want a huge amount of money, its not the 80's and 90's when it was easy to do this.Many thanks for replying.
I would like to pre arrange a girl in that case for a few days.
What would you suggest.
Is there still a hotel in Bangkok where you can pick up a lady from.
The hotel bar.
Thank you.
Bristol107
01-08-22, 22:18
I suggest you have a 12"x15" cardboard sign hanging on your chest with "Wanted PT LT girl for 3 weeks". Stand on the corner of Soi 7 and Sukimvit.Ha ha really funny.
Bristol107
01-08-22, 22:19
If you want this to be somewhat structured, your best bet is escort agencies (go to the escort section).
It will be expensive though. https://smooci.com/bangkok.Thank you what about hotels that you can pick up girls from the bar.
Bristol107
01-08-22, 22:24
My wife is getting a little suspicious of travelling to Bangkok.
This is I love the red light areas and meeting young lady's for fun.
Could any one suggest a similar country that is very similar to Bangkok.
I've been to Burma Cambodia I was thinking Vietnam Philippines Japan.
Any ideas please.
Regards.
Happy new year.
My own data points also hint COVID is raging in Bangkok, regardless of what numbers are being reported by the government. I reached out to several different FL contacts and about half were in the COVID protocol. The bargirls said that most of the other girls in the same bar also had COVID. I also know a nurse with no connection to the others. COVID protocol. Another unrelated civilian friend living outside Bangkok had symptoms and get tested (though negative) because her boss had COVID. I'm not arguing that my data points are representative (they can't be), but given them and what I'm reading here and elsewhere, I think there's a big problem.
Thailand seems to have been largely spared from the previous waves, but that just means it is dry kindling. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Expect (largely ineffective) lockdowns soon.
P.S. I'm not too wired about getting sick myself, having just received a booster and without comobordities.
RonnieMonger
01-09-22, 09:10
The antigen test kits in Bangkok (nose swab or spit-tubes) are widely and cheaply available. They are also now producing quicker results. Between 10 and 20 minutes for pos / neg result.
If you have a few regular FLs or BGs who are out of work maybe meet up with a couple of beer in a hotel room, test each other, enjoy your drinks while waiting and, if all good, then get down to business.
Thanks for sharing the information. I do think a mini tsunami is coming.
The bigger question is. When will we see a return to 50% pre-pandemic normalcy?
3 months from now or 6 or even more?My fear is that Omicron will especially hit the countries with low vaccination rates very hard.
In Thailand 65% of the people is fully vaccinated, which is not a bad rate but it's not really good either.
So it's hard to say what will happen, but I think it's very well possible that their hospitals will be overwhelmed with patients.
Member #4753
01-09-22, 10:59
During the Delta wave in Thailand you would hear of a wide ranging amount of Thai people with Delta. It hit the low income communities hard and the labor camps as well as some working girls.
The Omicorn wave has infected so many working girls over the last 2 weeks that I have lost count. I think it I would know of 20 working girls with covid now. The Farang / Bar girl scene in Phuket, Pattaya and now Lower Sukhumwit must have a 25% positivity rate IE 1 in 4 people in the area have omicron.
I am sure it will spread to the entire community in the next few weeks too.
At first I was quite disappointed that I was not able to go to Thailand after a hiatus of almost two years. This occurred due to my procrastination in arranging the necessary approvals from Thai Visa to travel to Thailand. My delay was due to a concern that Omicron would spread rapidly and that curfews and other onerous restrictions would return. It seems that Bangkok and the country is on the precipice of another health crisis, perhaps more than others in the past two years. I currently have expats friend there who arrived in mid December. After a brief period of euphoria, they seem to be confronting the same rapid spread of Covid that you mentioned. One friend said he would not go to Soi 7 as it's a cesspool of Covid cases, while Soi Cowboy mandatory testing invites you to a potential hospital stay.
I saw an article in the Pattaya newspaper that the empty hotels there are suggesting they use their facilities for temporary hospital MASH type units — at farangs own cost, of course, for those with symptoms or not. Needless to say, tourists and ex pats are rejecting this idea en masse. In many cases, the health insurance (companies) you were compelled to purchase are refusing to pay for your hospital / hotel if you are asymptomatic. But it appears, hotels are more than happy to gouge their life bread for a temporary fix of revenue.
During the Delta wave in Thailand you would hear of a wide ranging amount of Thai people with Delta. It hit the low income communities hard and the labor camps as well as some working girls.
The Omicorn wave has infected so many working girls over the last 2 weeks that I have lost count. I think it I would know of 20 working girls with covid now. The Farang / Bar girl scene in Phuket, Pattaya and now Lower Sukhumwit must have a 25% positivity rate IE 1 in 4 people in the area have omicron.
I am sure it will spread to the entire community in the next few weeks too.
The antigen test kits in Bangkok (nose swab or spit-tubes) are widely and cheaply available. They are also now producing quicker results. Between 10 and 20 minutes for pos / neg result.
If you have a few regular FLs or BGs who are out of work maybe meet up with a couple of beer in a hotel room, test each other, enjoy your drinks while waiting and, if all good, then get down to business.Omicron spreads even through masks as entire flights are reported positive many times nowadays. All passengers were negative before boarding the flight.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/173-more-passengers-who-arrived-in-amritsar-from-rome-test-covid-19-positive-101641556029910.html
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/high-drama-at-amritsar-airport-after-125-passengers-of-italy-amritsar-flight-test-positive-for-covid-358821
Arn Poddict
01-09-22, 19:07
Soi 7 bars opened today after a couple of days closure. They were medium busy.
Nana plaza outdoor bar was rather quiet today and talent was low.
Omicron spreads even through masks as entire flights are reported positive many times nowadays. All passengers were negative before boarding the flight.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/173-more-passengers-who-arrived-in-amritsar-from-rome-test-covid-19-positive-101641556029910.html
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/high-drama-at-amritsar-airport-after-125-passengers-of-italy-amritsar-flight-test-positive-for-covid-358821The testing agency has been fired and it seems after retest they were negative. Don't panic masls are very effective.
Banana Boi
01-10-22, 11:12
The testing agency has been fired and it seems after retest they were negative. Don't panic masls are very effective.Supposedly only N95 masks are effective against Omicron. Most people don't have access to N95 masks or don't want to pay for them when you can get 10-50 "medical" masks for the price of one N95 mask. Guys in Thailand have seen what the girls wear. It's like a piece of origami paper. Do they even sell true N95 masks in Bangkok or Pattaya? If so, where and how much are they?
As for planes, every time they serve food or coffee everyone whips off their masks for an extended period of time.
Member #4753
01-10-22, 15:24
Supposedly only N95 masks are effective against Omicron. Most people don't have access to N95 masks or don't want to pay for them when you can get 10-50 "medical" masks for the price of one N95 mask. Guys in Thailand have seen what the girls wear. It's like a piece of origami paper. Do they even sell true N95 masks in Bangkok or Pattaya? If so, where and how much are they?
As for planes, every time they serve food or coffee everyone whips off their masks for an extended period of time.They sell the chinese equivalent KN95 masks at Boots, Watsons etc 40 or 50 baht. There is a half decent and comfortable 3 M brand that they carry. I buy them for myself and girlfriend becuase as you said straight medical masks offer protection for like 5 minutes when coming into contact with an infected person.
Banana Boi
01-10-22, 15:47
They sell the chinese equivalent KN95 masks at Boots, Watsons etc 40 or 50 baht. AFAIK KN95 masks do not go through stringent testing like N95 masks do and the KN95 tests are out of China(?). Maybe unjust but I trust KN95 like I would trust Sinovac vs. AZ or Sinopharm vs Moderna / Pfizer.
Banana Boi
01-10-22, 16:04
Can't believe guys risk hospitalization to go to a bar that has no girls. I only see guys! 15,080 baht seems like a really expensive beer to me.
Coincidentally, I had MSNBC News on when it came to a discussion of N95 vs. KN95. The MD who did the review by far favored the N95 over the KN95, though I thought he said the KN95 was from South Korea. Nevertheless, he strongly recommended using the N95 over others.
AFAIK KN95 masks do not go through stringent testing like N95 masks do and the KN95 tests are out of China(?). Maybe unjust but I trust KN95 like I would trust Sinovac vs. AZ or Sinopharm vs Moderna / Pfizer.
Explorer8939
01-11-22, 00:34
So, are the bars in Bangkok really closing at 9 pm?
Arn Poddict
01-11-22, 01:06
So, are the bars in Bangkok really closing at 9 pm?Yes they are.
So, are the bars in Bangkok really closing at 9 pm?Some turn down their lights and won't allow new customers to enter after 9 pm or so while the remaining customers finish their drinks. Others, the ones a bit less visible from main streets like Sukhumvit Road, might stay open hours longer.
Member #4753
01-11-22, 01:19
Coincidentally, I had MSNBC News on when it came to a discussion of N95 vs. KN95. The MD who did the review by far favored the N95 over the KN95, though I thought he said the KN95 was from South Korea. Nevertheless, he strongly recommended using the N95 over others.Many countries have equivalents to N95 masks, which is a USA standard. They are all more or less the same standard when purchased from reputable places where you can be confident that they are what the lable says they are.
In Thailand KN95 masks purchased from boots or watsons should be of a similar standard to a retail N95 mask purchased from a reputable US outlet. I would have little confidence if you purchased a KN95 from a street vendor in Thailand.
KN95 Is the chinese standard.
KF94 I believe is Korea.
FFP2 UK.
One further point. A retail N95 or KN95 is not the same as a specifically fitted equivalent medical mask. In a medical environment the mask is fitted to the face and they actually test it within a special small cubicle by flowing air through it with various substances. If the person in the cubicle can smell any of the substances, it means air is leaking into the mask and they adjust or refit it until it is perfectly sealed and nothing can be smelt.
Most people that you see in public with KN95 or N95 masks wear them hanging all over the place so potentially contaminated air is getting in the sides or top. It is questional how much protection this is providing.
I personally wear a decent KN95 from boots and make sure it fits well. I am vaccinated and not overly concerned if I contract covid, but would prefer not to if possible. I also do not want to be responsible for infecting other people if I get infected.
The whole mask debate is just stupid to me. If someone had a cold and they came up and coughed or sneezed all over you, you would be pissed off and probably say "turn away when you cough or at least put your hand over your mouth when coughing" . Wearing a mask is just the same, I don't want to breath / cough / sneeze over someone if I am potentially infected.
Finnish Fucker
01-11-22, 01:51
Thanks for the pics, FF. Nice to hear you're in Thailand. Good choice on your bathroom door attendant.You're welcome! I had to escape the cold winter of Finland. Bathroom attendant had nice body but was in a big hurry to get back to Nana for more drinks. Not so good.
Chimpo Chinn
01-11-22, 06:32
You're welcome! I had to escape the cold winter of Finland. Bathroom attendant had nice body but was in a big hurry to get back to Nana for more drinks. Not so good.This is the very reason I rarely Barfine agogo girls. They have the get back to Bar as fast as possible DNA in them. Next sucker up.
P.S. I find looks wise I find many agogo girls acceptable, even pre Covid. Just not as much since the Ku.
Spent two days in Bangkok.
Was a Grande Centre Point for quarantine.
Checked in 5 pm, did PCR test and then waiting in room for results. Was supposed to be 10 am. Nothing until 11 am. I call them, they say I have to wait.
I call again 12 pm, same story.
1 pm I'm being impatient and ask them to transfer me to the pcr service. After a few minutes they find my results, negative.
Then it takes 25 min for the bellman to pick me up from my room. What a mess.
Direction Landmark where I'm spending 2 nights.
First stop Mitu Soap, small selection available. I pick Jiu.
Very nice girl, does her job with attention.
BBBJ, CIM. Nice Nuru. At the end she asks If I want second shot. I say yes and she works extra hard for another 10 additional minutes. But then I give up, body too tired.
3800. Funny thing is that only ATM available was by the corner and could only deliver 30 x100 bills with 220 baht fee. Big ripoff, be aware.
It's now time for a massage, real foot massage. Can't visit Thailand without getting an authentic 300 bath massage at every corner.
Dinner time at Chinese restaurant. Only customer, good food. Gives me time to find a girl on smooci.
I book Rolanda 2 hours (https://smooci.com/escorts/BQnttl) based on the nice reviews I read.
She's definitely older than the pics, but her body is still fit.
She's very nice, GSE, takes her time. 2 shots, massage and sex in various positions. Mature women are definitely better than young cuties. They know how to handle gentlemen.
Next day, analisamassage. Book Name and Poppy based on recommendation from this forum (thanks Tom! 4 hour tantra glory hole.
This is a lot of fun. Name is very beautiful. Poppy is full of energy. The combo makes for lots of fun. Poppy wants to use her fingers. Name wants to BJ. But not BBBJ.
2 shots, and good English discussion. They enjoyed the session as much as I did.
Next I want to try fiwfan. Browse a few profiles and end up on some Telegram channel, chatting with some random girl who shares nice pics. 2000 for one hour, at this place.
B2 Huai Khwang Premier Hotel.
https://goo.gl/maps/axLYqFrqaZR6ytY28
Which is about 25 min ride at traffic hours. I book a scooter on Grab for 100 baht.
Arrive at the hotel, go up her room. Some young girl welcomes, maybe 21-23 years old.
Definitely different from the pictures. I think it's a pattern on fiwfans, girls post pictures of other girls they think look like them. But not really.
Anyway, the girl looks good. Great body, nice face. She has braces though, and fake boobs (with a poor job, very visible scars).
Take a shower and then get to action. Unfortunately I see very quickly that's she's inexperienced. The second she starts licking my nipples:-the.
As I understand I will have to take control. I flip her over, and I start fingering her. She's very shy. But my fingers slowly make it to her ass. I go very slow and she does not complain. I think it's her first time. I keep asking if she's ok. And she keeps saying yes. Until she gets an orgasm. Then time for me to fuck her. But she's not very active, again too newbie.
I ask her to finish me off and she's afraid I will cum in her mouth. She's young and cute, so I don't force anything and she finishes with HJ.
Definitely not the experience I was looking for, but I tried the fiwfan experience of student girls who need extra money.
I finish the night thinking I should do something that is guaranteed to make me happy. So I book a Michelin star restaurant at last minute.
I check in to Cadennce, some American Korean chef owned restaurant.
Tasting menu 14 plates, with matching cocktails (very original!
Four hours later and 10 k bahts (not cheap, but worth it), I'm ready to call it a day.
Will go back in a few days for some more experiences.
...
Then it takes 25 min for the bellman to pick me up from my room. What a mess...
Did my 16-day quarantine at Center Point (Ratchadamri) in 2021. Was ok, except on the day I was leaving I also waited for the bellman to pick me up. I grew fed up waiting so I packed my bags and walked out. They were not at all happy to see me walk on my own, for a minute I feared they would raise hell and put me into quarantine for another fortnight.
Banana Boi
01-11-22, 19:33
This is the very reason I rarely Barfine agogo girls. They have the get back to Bar as fast as possible DNA in them. Next sucker up.Which gogo bars did you have this happen at?
Did the gogo bar make you pay for both barfine AND girl up front? Never do that! You're setting yourself up for failure. The gogo girl has already been paid. There is no incentive for her to stay 2-3 hours with you for ST especially when she sees you as a tourist and you won't barfine her again. I make sure I always pay the girl directly. I don't want the gogo bars to take another 500 baht out of the cut you believe is going to the girl.
NicFrenchy
01-12-22, 07:09
Definitely different from the pictures. I think it's a pattern on fiwfans, girls post pictures of other girls they think look like them. But not really.That is a mistake most noobs make when ordering online. Before I book, I always ask for the girl's LINE for a quick video chat. That separates the real girls from the Trolls.
My guess is that you talked to some guy or girl that handles all the accounts and sends the photos, then books (kind of a hostess if you will).
Few will accept to share their LINE and video, but the ones that do are real and they won't do a bait & Switch on you.
Definitely not the experience I was looking for, but I tried the fiwfan experience of student girls who need extra money.These newbie students just aren't used to anything other than Vanilla sex. This is what they know, this is how most Thai guys have sex, blowjob, few positions, CIP and that's it. The girl isn't really asked or expected to do anything, the guy decides on positions and just thrusts away.
Also. Student girls needing extra money aren't looking for foreigners, at all. They are after older Thai gentlemen that will pay them handsomely for their services and use them for sex whenever they want.
Some of these gentlemen rent / buy apartments and put the girls there, so they can go anytime to have sex with them. The girls get a monthly allowance, and get to keep their young boyfriends.
These older guys just want to be treated nicely, washed, have vanilla sex with a young girl, far from the PSE sex we foreigners expect, and that's why most people are disappointed.
Great Report By the way, and I hope the Michelin Dinner included wine with each course. I liked the food but not the dining room atmosphere.
That is a mistake most noobs make when ordering online. Before I book, I always ask for the girl's LINE for a quick video chat. That separates the real girls from the Trolls.
My guess is that you talked to some guy or girl that handles all the accounts and sends the photos, then books (kind of a hostess if you will).
Few will accept to share their LINE and video, but the ones that do are real and they won't do a bait & Switch on you.
These newbie students just aren't used to anything other than Vanilla sex. This is what they know, this is how most Thai guys have sex, blowjob, few positions, CIP and that's it. The girl isn't really asked or expected to do anything, the guy decides on positions and just thrusts away.
Also. Student girls needing extra money aren't looking for foreigners, at all. They are after older Thai gentlemen that will pay them handsomely for their services and use them for sex whenever they want.
Some of these gentlemen rent / buy apartments and put the girls there, so they can go anytime to have sex with them. The girls get a monthly allowance, and get to keep their young boyfriends..Just want to say this is totally accurate.
Do not expect great sex with a fresh from the farm girl or a girl new to the game. They've had plenty of sex but most / all of it with a Thai BF or two that is young and clueless. That's what happens when they start having sex at 15 and stay with the same BF until they leave the village / hometown.
Just want to say this is totally accurate.
Do not expect great sex with a fresh from the farm girl or a girl new to the game. They've had plenty of sex but most / all of it with a Thai BF or two that is young and clueless. That's what happens when they start having sex at 15 and stay with the same BF until they leave the village / hometown.Sometimes for variety I like the newbies from the farm. I take my time slowly lickin them. Then when they are soaking wet I slowly enter them. Once inside instead of stroking them I just push hard and harder in them for awhile. Then slowly stroke it.
I love it if they get their first big O!
Give me a young newbie from the farm anytime.
Newbies are shy and quiet. Never had one tell me time is up or to hurry it up!
Newbies from the farm make this old soft bull feel like a great cocksman again! Lol.
Sometimes for variety I like the newbies from the farm. I take my time slowly lickin them. Then when they are soaking wet I slowly enter them. Once inside instead of stroking them I just push hard and harder in them for awhile. Then slowly stroke it.
I love it if they get their first big O!
Give me a young newbie from the farm anytime.
Newbies are shy and quiet. Never had one tell me time is up or to hurry it up!
Newbies from the farm make this old soft bull feel like a great cocksman again! Lol.Got to say I've never understood all the advanced requirements either. Fucking is not difficult. And the only thing you get with more experienced working girls is more BS.
NicFrenchy
01-13-22, 01:54
Got to say I've never understood all the advanced requirements either. Fucking is not difficult. And the only thing you get with more experienced working girls is more BS.Well, this comes with the territory. I laugh at Tourists coming here and expecting their working girl to fall in love. 9/10 of these girls are in the game for the money, those that tell you they want to meet a nice gentleman are doing so because he has money (they'd never "fall in love" with a poor guy). They play the short game or the long game but it's all an act.
She's going to be all over you for a day / week / month, make you feel like a king and call you her superman. Until the next guy comes along.
Maybe I've been in Asia too long, but I never understood the need to parade your purchase all day shopping and for breakfast "the day after".
You pay for sex, have great sex, treat the girl nicely and with respect and send her on her way. She's not your GF and it's not your role to take her shopping or feed her, she has a Thai boyfriend for that (even maybe a Foreign sponsor who thinks she quit the game and works a cashiering job in a mall).
I much prefer the Asian way of mongering, no BS, no headaches and everyone knows what they are and why they are here.
Got to say I've never understood all the advanced requirements either. Fucking is not difficult. And the only thing you get with more experienced working girls is more BS.Newbies are less businesslike so sometimes give a much better GFE. However, sometimes they will just plain and simple be bad at sex. I stay away from the hardcore girls who have been in the game for years so I have some experience with the newbies.
Well, this comes with the territory. I laugh at Tourists coming here and expecting their working girl to fall in love. 9/10 of these girls are in the game for the money, those that tell you they want to meet a nice gentleman are doing so because he has money (they'd never "fall in love" with a poor guy). They play the short game or the long game but it's all an act.
She's going to be all over you for a day / week / month, make you feel like a king and call you her superman. Until the next guy comes along.
Maybe I've been in Asia too long, but I never understood the need to parade your purchase all day shopping and for breakfast "the day after".
You pay for sex, have great sex, treat the girl nicely and with respect and send her on her way. She's not your GF and it's not your role to take her shopping or feed her, she has a Thai boyfriend for that (even maybe a Foreign sponsor who thinks she quit the game and works a cashiering job in a mall).
I much prefer the Asian way of mongering, no BS, no headaches and everyone knows what they are and why they are here.I don't pay for sex anywhere, anytime. I pay gals to go away after I am done.
CockaSaurus
01-13-22, 19:01
Well, this comes with the territory. I laugh at Tourists coming here and expecting their working girl to fall in love. 9/10 of these girls are in the game for the money, those that tell you they want to meet a nice gentleman are doing so because he has money (they'd never "fall in love" with a poor guy). They play the short game or the long game but it's all an act.
She's going to be all over you for a day / week / month, make you feel like a king and call you her superman. Until the next guy comes along.
Maybe I've been in Asia too long, but I never understood the need to parade your purchase all day shopping and for breakfast "the day after".
You pay for sex, have great sex, treat the girl nicely and with respect and send her on her way. She's not your GF and it's not your role to take her shopping or feed her, she has a Thai boyfriend for that (even maybe a Foreign sponsor who thinks she quit the game and works a cashiering job in a mall).
I much prefer the Asian way of mongering, no BS, no headaches and everyone knows what they are and why they are here.Personally I like the GFE part of it. I've certainly fallen in love or thought that I have but with experience that has passed and now I just enjoy the company of the girl and eat breakfast, lunch, dinner with the girl, take her shopping and just explore BKK with her. I feel like the sex is better this way and long run I save money.
Well technically started in Phuket with some girl I picked up on TF (Thai Friendly app).
First time I used this app. Made clear in my profile I was looking for ST and shared my LINE ID. A few girls contacted me, but only one was next to my hotel in Phuket.
1000 + 500 taxi ride. I asked if I could take a video of the session and she agreed for 500 more.
The girl was older than in her pictures, and definitely not a model. But BBBJ was excellent, and I will be able to watch this later when I miss Thailand.
Next stop in Bangkok I return to Analissa Massage. I was texting Poppy (with which I had a session last week) for a few days and we had scheduled another 4 hand tantra glory hole, with another lady, Teya, that she recommended.
Teya is pretty, good English, but no boobs. She came with a selection of strap on toys. But I gently declined, trusting her fingers better.
The session was very chatty, as they both had good English. And we keep making jokes and laughing. While being very naughty. They can both do FS, but their specialty is PM and HJ. 2 shots, with nice massage. Definitely a good combo Poppy + Teya.
Next up I try another Michelin star 80/20. I was not so impressed to be honest compared to the previous one (see previous report). Was original, some good plates but a bit too spicy and service was a bit rushed. 5 k.
That leaves me time to think about my next smooci pick. I hesitate with a nice ladyboy (Miranda) but I end up booking Bam https://smooci.com/escorts/IsxIn2#.
She calls me to ask if she can come a bit later, sure.
She comes around 10 pm and she looks like her photos (a bit older, maybe 3-4 years). She's actually 32, not 25.
She tells me that even though she shared her real age on smooci, they put a different one, she's not sure why.
She has a very pretty face, maybe the prettiest of all smooci escorts. Great English. We actually spent more than one hour talking (which I did not mind). We shared about our lives, she's a strong personality, but looking to please client.
We take a shower together, then time for BBBJ. She wants FS but I ask her to keep BBBJ. After I complete, she says with a sneaky smile "I know why you don't want FS, you enjoy more BJ ". This is the type of interaction you get with Bam, like a real GF.
We then spend time looking at other smooci profiles, she shares with me that all her reviews are real. And she tells me about the bad reviews she got. Some horror stories about Indian dudes who invited her in their apt full of cockroaches, or some other guy who had a sick dick and she did not want to suck him. Both left bad reviews, and nothing she could do about it. She did not know that fake reviews were possible on smooci.
Before you know it, it was already 2 hours.
She also did not. Know about this forum. And was getting anxious about possible things I would write about her. I told her that it's up to her. And she answered "do as you. Please."
BTW, her body is curvy. With plenty of tattoos.
If you book her, she's the real girl next door. As cute as it gets, but with the body of a regular 32 year old woman who does not spend time at the gym.
For me her face, smile, personality and great English conversation made up for it. My best experience on smooci so far, and probably of all the girls is booked in Thailand. But it's personal taste.
Next report coming up soon. If ATM does not block my card.
So I start my day excited because I booked Kaede, the top masseuse at Mitu for 2 pm.
Just enough time to check out the gym, enjoy the pool and light lunch.
Kaede has a great body, and her face is half Indian / half Thai origin.
She's very professional from start to finish. She definitely does a great job at licking every other part of the body, and trying some positions I did not even think of.
I guess it's perfect Nuru massage. Except that she's a bit too pro / mechanic. From the fake moaning to the loud kissing, I have a hard time connecting with her. The second pop did not happen even though she tried hard for 10 minutes after session was over (very pro). 6 k, certainly top experience. But I would not go back again. Need something more "natural".
Next stop is legit massage place 15 minutes walk, called FootMaster. You guess it. They specialize in foot massage.
I actually walked by the week before, but they were full. A good sign.
This time I book a 60 min foot reflexology massage with a senior therapist (700 baht, double the usual rate).
I did 100's of foot massage in my life in many countries, included Thailand. But this one was something else. My therapist Pat (man) was 50+ and he was just "magical" at finding pressure points in my feet that I did not know existed. I suffered like hell during the massage. But he fixed my feet for real. I don't think I'll ever have a better foot massage in my life again. Try him if you stop by.
I have a couple hours before my 7 pm reservation at 2* Michelin are Haan.
I decide to try some fiwfan based on recommendations from a fellow member (thanks!
I decide to try Nan and I book her through LINE.
https://www.fiwfans.com/sideline/406rae5lvkw0xzzk6
It's another shady motel, about 15 min scooter ride from central Bangkok. Clearly these motels are only used by hookers. It screams left and right on every floor and walls are razor thin. There's a tiny aquarium full of turtles in the lobby, so creepy.
I enter the room. Walls are falling apart because of humidity, very creepy.
Nan looks exactly like her pictures. Great body, cute face, basic English. Shower, usual BBBJ and positions. But for me, it was like playing with one of these expensive silicone dolls you can buy.
Looking at her reviews, you can understand that Thai folks are all over her. But for seasoned western folks. That's I think too "sterile". 1300/40 min. I left after 20.
That's my second fiwfan and reading other reports I think it's how it is for the locals. You can try it, it's cheap. But it's always the same scripted story, not surprise. I enjoyed way more the more expensive escort girls from agencies.
Time for my Michelin dinner, 3rd of the week. I kept the best for last (two stars). Well, quite an experience. Definitely extremely good, I think most dishes were presented with some unique artistic attention. I took a couple cocktails and bill was $6 k / 2 hours / too much food. I think this one was very close to Cadence in terms of food quality, better for artistic presentation but Cadence wins for service.
So I'm super full and take a Grab back to hotel.
As I enter I count the last bills I have in my pocket. I just paid cash the restaurant. 1300 baht is all that's left.
Now I remember that's exactly the price of BJ at 7 Heaven which is 5 min walk. How is that not a sign? Even though I'm tired and not sure I have another shot in me. I can't resist.
Before going I quickly search reports of fellow mongers. Jane and Dear come up (thanks!
I enter the shop. Very limited line up of 5 girls, and mandatory masks because of omicron. Lucky me, Dear is around.
I give my last 1300 baht and up we go.
Dear is super cute, but no boobs. Or I should say no fake boobs.
But oh boy. What a BBBJ she gives me. She does not use her hands at all. But she knows what she's doing. And even though I'm super tired, she manages to make me CIM.
Definitely recommended. Some expertise. And she's super nice.
Not sure what I will do for my last day. Stay tuned.
I had hoped this weekend would see The Great Wildlife Migration of girls in their provinces during the New Years week holiday back to Bangkok. But it was not to be.
Have to assume the reports and rumors of Omicron / Covid upticks kept most of them in their home provinces. The 3 most delightfully doable bargirls I have seen regularly over the past few months did not return to Bangkok and said they might not do so for several weeks. We'll see.
The bar and walking traffic was very light tonight, Friday night. Most bars in the lower Sukhumvit area were closing by 9 pm. Only a few sidewalk cart bars remained open on Soi 7 along with one or two cheater bars on Soi 4 and a couple of bars on Soi Cowboy with a few girls hanging around as late as 10 pm. Maybe 5-6 real females were in front of Thermae at the 9 pm hour.
I don't know what the scene was like after 10 pm because I was back in my apartment to meet a long time and pre Covid online regular for a lovely and satisfying Short Time by then.
Tried a site and they was responsive and send girl who was quite older mid 40.
Please suggest some hotel where european girl will be available for in-call.
Thanks in advance.
Next stop is legit massage place 15 minutes walk, called FootMaster. You guess it. They specialize in foot massage.
I actually walked by the week before, but they were full. A good sign.
This time I book a 60 min foot reflexology massage with a senior therapist (700 baht, double the usual rate).
I did 100's of foot massage in my life in many countries, included Thailand. But this one was something else. My therapist Pat (man) was 50+ and he was just "magical" at finding pressure points in my feet that I did not know existed. I suffered like hell during the massage. But he fixed my feet for real. I don't think I'll ever have a better foot massage in my life again. Try him if you stop by.
Where is this Footmaster located? It seems to be a franchise and there may be several in Bangkok. Thanks for your assistance!
Member #4753
01-15-22, 09:50
Where is this Footmaster located? It seems to be a franchise and there may be several in Bangkok. Thanks for your assistance!FootMaster is Sukhumvit Soi 31, on the Right Hand side as you walk from Sukhuwit Road.
1 Hour foot massage is 500 for standard therapist or 600 for the senior massage therapist.
In my experince there is little different between the normal and senior therapist.
They also offer body massage etc as well.
If you are not used to a very hard foot massage be prepared for some PAIN - 555.
Last but not least. I decided to stop by Kokoro and try Mira as she came back from vacation.
I was hesitating between that and a legit Thai massage. I did not regret my choice as soon as I saw her.
She's more beautiful in real that on the site. She's 25, petite (1 m40) but with high heels 1. 50 she was dressed like business girl, very exciting.
I picked Nuru normal room (3900).
This place feels upscale, definitely more than Mitu Soap. The rooms are cleaner, with actual light.
Start with usual shower, BBBJ and some. Rimming and then onto the mattress.
She started doing Nuru 8 months ago, pretty new. But not bad.
Anyway the real fun starts when she flips me over, puts condom and starts riding. After 5 min she asks me If I want to be on top, I say yes.
And then for the next 45 min FS non stop. She moans so much that I wonder why after some time. Is it fake? To be honest I will never know. But if she fakes it then she is world. Class. Actress. However she kept rubbing her fingers on her clit. And had various moaning sounds depending on my action. So fake or not, it felt genuine and awesome.
And we went 20 minute over time. I think it could have lasted another 30 as there was no sign from her that I should stop.
If I come back to BKK I will definitely book her again.
Hope my reports were useful. The reports I found on this forum definitely made my trip great. Thanks everyone for sharing tips!
Member #4753
01-15-22, 13:39
I walked past Soi Cowboy about 7 pm (Saturday) and they had both ends closed off. The only way to enter was by taking an on the spot Rapid Covid Test.
I showed them my vaccination certificate of which they had zero interest in. Just said "everyone" must take on spot covid test.
I cannot imagine many customers being prepared to enter the street under those circumstances because 1) It takes 15 minutes to get results 2) If you are positive they will register the result with the government which means hospital quarantine.
It will be interesting to see how long they do this. Cannot imagine it will last more than a week as the bars inside will have zero customers.
Explorer8939
01-15-22, 17:38
I walked past Soi Cowboy about 7 pm (Saturday) and they had both ends closed off. The only way to enter was by taking an on the spot Rapid Covid Test.
I showed them my vaccination certificate of which they had zero interest in. Just said "everyone" must take on spot covid test.
I cannot imagine many customers being prepared to enter the street under those circumstances because 1) It takes 15 minutes to get results 2) If you are positive they will register the result with the government which means hospital quarantine.
It will be interesting to see how long they do this. Cannot imagine it will last more than a week as the bars inside will have zero customers.This kind of crap is why I left Thailand and went to Brazil.
FootMaster is Sukhumvit Soi 31, on the Right Hand side as you walk from Sukhuwit Road.
1 Hour foot massage is 500 for standard therapist or 600 for the senior massage therapist.
In my experince there is little different between the normal and senior therapist.
They also offer body massage etc as well.
If you are not used to a very hard foot massage be prepared for some PAIN - 555.I appreciate your information on the location and your PRC test info. Thank you! There seems to another franchise near Ploenchit according to the website.
NicFrenchy
01-16-22, 03:01
I appreciate your information on the location and your PRC test info. Thank you! There seems to another franchise near Ploenchit according to the website.There is more than one. There used to be one inside Amarin Plaza (Chidlom station). It's at back, when you enter Amarin Plaza from the BTS level, just go straight all the way to the back, it's the last shop on the right before you reach the parking area.
And yes, as far as foot massage goes, this is the best, no one else comes close.
I walked past Soi Cowboy about 7 pm (Saturday) and they had both ends closed off. The only way to enter was by taking an on the spot Rapid Covid Test.
I showed them my vaccination certificate of which they had zero interest in. Just said "everyone" must take on spot covid test.
I cannot imagine many customers being prepared to enter the street under those circumstances because 1) It takes 15 minutes to get results 2) If you are positive they will register the result with the government which means hospital quarantine.
It will be interesting to see how long they do this. Cannot imagine it will last more than a week as the bars inside will have zero customers.Many of the other bars around town are offering "Free Rapid Covid Test" with a basket of the tests for you to select at the entrance. Not that taking one is required, but they are there if you want one. However, don't be surprised if a girl you're chatting with in the bar playfully hands you one to show her you tested just as negative as she did today. LOL.
I suppose the best workaround for not being put on a list after testing positive in cases where a test is required to enter, other than simply not entering of course, is to give yourself a test before going out for the night. If it shows you are negative after the 15 minute wait time, chances are every free or required test you take for the next 3-4 hours will be negative too. Not guaranteed. But increased probability.
I have seen self tests for sale in some pharmacies for as low as 120 baht. The bars offering them for free must be getting them for free from the government.
There is more than one. There used to be one inside Amarin Plaza (Chidlom station). It's at back, when you enter Amarin Plaza from the BTS level, just go straight all the way to the back, it's the last shop on the right before you reach the parking area.
And yes, as far as foot massage goes, this is the best, no one else comes close.Thanks for the location of shop in Amarin Plaza. I think it was the one that was mentioned on the shop's website. I always get confused between Chidlom and Ploenchit stations.
Thanks for all your posts these many years. They have been honest and objective, which have helped many people reading your posts who have come to Thailand.
The bars are staying open until 11 pm now. Not sure if anyone is concerned about openly serving alcohol after 9 pm. I really haven't been following that issue. I saw some boys in brown show up at the entrance of the Soi 7 bar alley last night about 9:30 pm, chat briefly with some Asian customer and leave while the booze was being openly delivered to tables all around.
Have to say in the past week or two there has been a big increase in the number and quality of girls working in and around all the bars in the lower Sukhumvit area. Two of my three favorite regulars returned to Bangkok a few days ago.
Virtually all the beer bars are open, lively and many are packed with girls, the usual 10-20% of them as doable or better than your above average Bangkok go-go girl during normal times. Nana Plaza ground level as one big beer bar is a party every night. Aside from Soi Cowboy, free rapid Covid tests are available but not required to enter any bar that I have seen.
And as of last night there were very few customers around. We were outnumbered by available girls by many multiples.
Have to cough out 5400 Baht for 1st day Test and go and 4500 baht for 5th day. This totals to 9900 baht just for this temporary thing called test and go.
I am still ready to pay this right now as girls are cheaper by 500 baht daily, right? I saw the posts of this forum saying girls are available at 1300 to 1500 baht instead of the regular 2000 baht. This way I save those 9900 baht in about 20 days.
Please correct me.
Meanwhile, after the new year. I will check into a Japanese owned, Thai ran, Privat in Bangkok for a week long stay, just like the ones in Prague with many girls working out of. Basically, it's an all you can bang buffet from 0900-0200 for only1200 per session with over 75 girls to choose from. Rhymes with No No Smell. Have a good New Year bro!Wow, is there such a thing in Thailand? What is the name and address?
Member #4753
01-27-22, 09:31
Have to cough out 5400 Baht for 1st day Test and go and 4500 baht for 5th day. This totals to 9900 baht just for this temporary thing called test and go.Wow. So there is basically a $350 charge for the pleasure to come to Thailand.
Thailand is not going to build back it tourism base with these complicated and costly entry procedures.
Have to cough out 5400 Baht for 1st day Test and go and 4500 baht for 5th day. This totals to 9900 baht just for this temporary thing called test and go.
I am still ready to pay this right now as girls are cheaper by 500 baht daily, right? I saw the posts of this forum saying girls are available at 1300 to 1500 baht instead of the regular 2000 baht. This way I save those 9900 baht in about 20 days.
Please correct me.That's insane. Did you book through PSAS? When I went in November using Test and Go, I had already booked 2 x PCR for airport + day 4 (or 6) for Sandbox Entry. Total cost was around 5500 for both PCR tests. By the time I landed (and entered using Test and Go), only 1 PCR (at the airport) and 1 self-administered (free, I think?) antigen test on day 4 or 6 was necessary. I was even able to get half of the 5500 back by refunding the 2nd PCR test on the PSAS website.
Wow. So there is basically a $350 charge for the pleasure to come to Thailand.
Thailand is not going to build back it tourism base with these complicated and costly entry procedures.Much more than 350. Add one-night ASH-booking (including the airport pick-up) + flight booked in advance + Covid insurance covering the whole stay.
Booked 2 RT PCR tests and what not to enter Thailand man. Hope I make up this loss with cheaper girls on streets.
I got a deluxe room in Ruamchitt plaza for so cheap that its unbelievable price 13 USD. Haha!
In fact, I would not have to go till the streets, all girls are at the steps of this hotel. Just hope that they are girls indeed and not ladyboys. I think I read somewhere that there are ladyboys outside thermae / Ruamchitt plaza / Bush garden. Not sure, let me know here guys.
I would say on average about 1/2 are LB's in front of Thermae and the adjoining streets. Just ask if in doubt. However, some are cleverly disguised as they are Post-op and may not be totally honest about their gender.
Booked 2 RT PCR tests and what not to enter Thailand man. Hope I make up this loss with cheaper girls on streets.
I got a deluxe room in Ruamchitt plaza for so cheap that its unbelievable price 13 USD. Haha!
In fact, I would not have to go till the streets, all girls are at the steps of this hotel. Just hope that they are girls indeed and not ladyboys. I think I read somewhere that there are ladyboys outside thermae / Ruamchitt plaza / Bush garden. Not sure, let me know here guys.
I agree with the below poster. First, you generally are going to want to request a five day package hotel stay at beginning of your stay. It's better than moving somewhere for a few days and then moving back for the Day5 test, and exposing yourself to unnecessary exposure risks. These designated hotels vary quite a bit in price but I would stay at a better one for the food, ambience, and hopefully a nice pool. Then, of course, there is the Covid insurance, which will vary depending on the length of your stay. There is also the PCR testing x 2 but I think some of the hotels offer that testing as part of their package deal for the hotel. I would not include flight costs in your budget as one has to pay for that regardless though it can be argued that airfares are generally higher than in the past.
In the end, it is the hotels best interest for the Thai government to continue this draconian Covid policy as long as possible as they stand to benefit significantly from the added revenue. Of course, smaller non corporate owned hotels are usually not part of this program. For what's it's worth, hotel prices, even for five star, are much less than in years past so take advantage of that phenomena for as long as it lasts.
Much more than 350. Add one-night ASH-booking (including the airport pick-up) + flight booked in advance + Covid insurance covering the whole stay.
Llantarnam
01-30-22, 14:30
This kind of crap is why I left Thailand and went to Brazil.With this sort of attitude Thailand doesn't need you (but I'm certain that Mr Bolsonaro and the 250 K people who tested positive in Brazil yesterday will welcome you with open arms).
Personally, I think this sort of proportional, targeted action to control the spread of the virus will encourage many more to visit Thailand than those it scares away. And for all those who are happy to be positive and untested, then I'd say Thailand doesn't need you either.
Explorer8939
01-30-22, 15:32
With this sort of attitude Thailand doesn't need you (but I'm certain that Mr Bolsonaro and the 250 K people who tested positive in Brazil yesterday will welcome you with open arms).
Personally, I think this sort of proportional, targeted action to control the spread of the virus will encourage many more to visit Thailand than those it scares away. And for all those who are happy to be positive and untested, then I'd say Thailand doesn't need you either.If Thailand tested more than 10,000 Thais a day, they might discover how widespread Omicron is in Thailand.
Meanwhile, I will stay away as long as Thailand mandates use of inaccurate and ineffective measures such as looking at fake ATK tests at bars.
Axel Heyst
01-30-22, 16:26
I walked past Soi Cowboy about 7 pm (Saturday) and they had both ends closed off. The only way to enter was by taking an on the spot Rapid Covid Test.
I showed them my vaccination certificate of which they had zero interest in. Just said "everyone" must take on spot covid test.
I cannot imagine many customers being prepared to enter the street under those circumstances because 1) It takes 15 minutes to get results 2) If you are positive they will register the result with the government which means hospital quarantine.
It will be interesting to see how long they do this. Cannot imagine it will last more than a week as the bars inside will have zero customers.
This kind of crap is why I left Thailand and went to Brazil.
With this sort of attitude Thailand doesn't need you (but I'm certain that Mr Bolsonaro and the 250 K people who tested positive in Brazil yesterday will welcome you with open arms).
Personally, I think this sort of proportional, targeted action to control the spread of the virus will encourage many more to visit Thailand than those it scares away. And for all those who are happy to be positive and untested, then I'd say Thailand doesn't need you either.Hey Llantarnam,
If you want to visit Thailand with these conditions and mandates hanging over your head, knock yourself out. But every fellow punter that I know is staying away from LOS as long as this BS reigns. Most of us have been vaxed 3 x and we feel enough is enough already. Travel is supposed to be all about having a good time. I know I could not really relax and feel totally comfortable in Thailand with these draconian measures hanging over my head. But that is just the view of yours truly and like I said all my punter friends.
As to the politics of it, ask yourself this: have the Thai mandates and lockdowns really worked? I don't think so. Maybe at first they did when the country was in total lockdown, but I know a lot of Thai girls and they know a ton more girls that have caught Omicron in the last month and half even after being vaxed twice. They were sick a few days, but after testing positive they had to spend 14 days a prisoner in a Covid hospital ward. Meanwhile Brazil is open and it rocks! I have been to Brazil 2 x in 2021 and I will be returning for a 3rd visit in April. All you need to enter Brazil is proof of vaccination and negative Covid test before departure from your home country. All the bars, bordellos, and massage shops are open and everyone is having a great time.
The only good thing I can say about Covid is that it opened my eyes to the possibilities elsewhere and broke my Thai addiction of more that 20 years. It is a matter of personal taste which country has prettier girls, Thailand or Brazil, but one thing is beyond debate: Brazilian girls are way better in bed. That's a fact, Jack. 555 / KKK. So see you in LOS after all restrictions, mandates, and forced quarantines are permanently lifted and stay safe.
Banana Boi
01-30-22, 17:16
some are cleverly disguised as they are Post-op and may not be totally honest about their gender.Aren't post ops considered female so they are technically not lying? I didn't want to post the photos but there were a couple of transgender men who competed as females in the last Olympics. One of them won Gold.
I would argue they are not female. They had an operation to remove their sexual organs and used these parts to create an artificial opening. Genetically, they remain male no matter how many hormones or surgical procedures they have. If you have ever seen photos of the surgeries, it generally does not look like the real McCoy. However, I will grant you that in the end it does not matter if both parties enjoy themselves.
Aren't post ops considered female so they are technically not lying? I didn't want to post the photos because I didn't know if they were allowed but there were a couple of transgender men who competed as females in the last Olympics. One of them won Gold.
Banana Boi
01-30-22, 17:39
I absolutely agree with you. I could have worded my post much better. Just pointing out how society views them and any post op will tell you they are female. You know these days with the new terms like non binary, etc.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-31-22, 04:33
I would argue they are not female. They had an operation to remove their sexual organs and used these parts to create an artificial opening. Genetically, they remain male no matter how many hormones or surgical procedures they have. If you have ever seen photos of the surgeries, it generally does not look like the real McCoy. However, I will grant you that in the end it does not matter if both parties enjoy themselves.You are being way way way too narrow in your thinking.
Sexual identity statement is made at birth by a doctor based purely on "physical characterization" that can be seen, not on chromosome testing.
In many such cases genetically aligned women are "named" as males at birth.
Thailand is enlightened enough as a society to allow these to easily change their gender to align physically and mentally.
If they then have excellent gender realignment / correction surgery, which their is plenty of, then they are now female fully, and you will not be able to pick them.
And yes, many others use this approach too, some maybe only mentally female.
As to photos of the surgeries and results post it for the "woman" many you will be totally unable to pick.
And in all ways they are female in function.
Did you know now that the better surgeries can create a pussy that lubricates, and a clitoris that can orgasm?
Watch this. https://www.medicalvideos.com/video/7372/Male-to-Female-Sex-Change-Surgery--How-it-Is-done?.
Read this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17413887/.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-31-22, 04:36
I absolutely agree with you. I could have worded my post much better. Just pointing out how society views them and any post op will tell you they are female. You know these days with the new terms like non binary, etc.Its way more complicated than that.
Katoey, female sex change, even unchanged are fully legally recognized in Thailand.
And its not just an add on of recent times, the constitution even has three genders.
This was my earlier post today on this.
You are being way way way too narrow in your thinking.
Sexual identity statement is made at birth by a doctor based purely on "physical characterization" that can be seen, not on chromosome testing.
In many such cases genetically aligned women are "named" as males at birth.
Thailand is enlightened enough as a society to allow these to easily change their gender to align physically and mentally.
If they then have excellent gender realignment / correction surgery, which their is plenty of, then they are now female fully, and you will not be able to pick them.
And yes, many others use this approach too, some maybe only mentally female.
As to photos of the surgeries and results post it for the "woman" many you will be totally unable to pick.
And in all ways they are female in function.
Did you know now that the better surgeries can create a pussy that lubricates, and a clitoris that can orgasm?
Watch this. https://www.medicalvideos.com/video/7372/Male-to-Female-Sex-Change-Surgery--How-it-Is-done?.
Read this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17413887/.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-31-22, 04:44
Hey Llantarnam,
If you want to visit Thailand with these conditions and mandates hanging over your head, knock yourself out. But every fellow punter that I know is staying away from LOS as long as this BS reigns. Most of us have been vaxed 3 x and we feel enough is enough already. Travel is supposed to be all about having a good time. I know I could not really relax and feel totally comfortable in Thailand with these draconian measures hanging over my head. But that is just the view of yours truly and like I said all my punter friends.
As to the politics of it, ask yourself this: have the Thai mandates and lockdowns really worked? I don't think so. Maybe at first they did when the country was in total lockdown, but I know a lot of Thai girls and they know a ton more girls that have caught Omicron in the last month and half even after being vaxed twice. They were sick a few days, but after testing positive they had to spend 14 days a prisoner in a Covid hospital ward. Meanwhile Brazil is open and it rocks! I have been to Brazil 2 x in 2021 and I will be returning for a 3rd visit in April. All you need to enter Brazil is proof of vaccination and negative Covid test before departure from your home country. All the bars, bordellos, and massage shops are open and everyone is having a great time..Hahaha.
Thai girls who ended up in covid prisons, hospital or hospitels happened pretty much because they wanted it to.
Most hid out away from the authorities and isolated at home.
Those that made themselves known had stronger symptoms and they were looking for the government cash handouts that came with hospitalization.
There was a lot of money (baht) available there as support for them early on so they chased it, and many got it.
Axel Heyst
01-31-22, 18:30
Hahaha.
Thai girls who ended up in covid prisons, hospital or hospitels happened pretty much because they wanted it to.
Most hid out away from the authorities and isolated at home.
Those that made themselves known had stronger symptoms and they were looking for the government cash handouts that came with hospitalization.
There was a lot of money (baht) available there as support for them early on so they chased it, and many got it.It is likely that many girls did as you say and did not voluntarily get tested when they had flu like symptoms. But I speak specifically about some girls I know. For example my Mini, one of my favorite girls who I have known for over ten years. She came down with flu like symptoms' shortly after her return from visiting her family over New Years weekend. Because she was concerned about her health, she naïvely went and got tested. I warned her not to. She tested positive and the next thing she knew a van came to her apartment and picked her up. She was feeling much better by the 3rd day of her incarceration. Beginning on day 5 she begged the hospital to let her go back home. She cried at night. The girl she shared a room with was seriously ill. She had to wear a mask 24 hours a day except when eating. Lights were turned off at 9 pm. That is prison.
She has some form of health insurance which she thinks is the reason the hospital authorities kept her against her will in the hospital. But her insurance did not cover her full expenses and she is on the hook for the balance. So, I assure you she did not profit from her ordeal. In addition, she has 2 other girlfriends who I also have known quite well for many years and they too were forced to stay in Covid hospital ward for 14 days after testing positive after New Years and they too did not profit from their internment.
But the relevant point for all of us considering a visit back to LOS under the present draconian Covid measures in place is: do you want to take the risk of a 14 day forced Covid hospitalization if you should test positive to Covid at any time during your visit. Not me and not 99% of my monger pals. But I have nothing against any one who chooses to go at the present time. Enjoy your trip and stay well.
Wow. So there is basically a $350 charge for the pleasure to come to Thailand.
Thailand is not going to build back it tourism base with these complicated and costly entry procedures.I am so desperate to go to a place with cheap pussy which does not attract too many questions from friends and family, that I just paid 15500 THB for the current Test & Go program. For that money I got a reasonable hotel on Soi 4, two PCR tests, transport from the airport and 5 nights with breakfast. With the air fare on top of that, now I just need to buy my insurance and apply for the entry pass. Wish me luck.
Thats how desperate and bored I am to get back to the hobby.
Johnie.
Yes, an excellent post. The government seems to be able to act with absolute impunity and a denial of your civil rights that would not be acceptable in a free democrátic society. It seems to be the more autocratic leaning a country is, the more they want to control peoples movements. Covid gives them an excuse to detain people, in this case in a hospitel or hospital. As Exhibit A, look at how China treats their citizens at the moment. This is why any testing numbers here are laughable. Anyone with an ounce of sense are not going to allow themselves to be tested and end up confined AGAINST their will.
I think any foreigner considering entering Thailand right now has not fully thought out the risks involved. The Thai government I think is essentially telling farangs that we don't want you here and if you do get in and test positive at any point, we are throwing you in the proverbial slammer. It would be one thing if it were effective in deterring Covid but they do almost nothing to control their borders allowing countless illegal immigrants in the country to work at near slavery levels.
Thanks for pointing out an actual story of what happens to people who test positive in a Thailand.
Member #4753
02-01-22, 04:29
The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.
Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.
One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.
Wow. So there is basically a $350 charge for the pleasure to come to Thailand.
Thailand is not going to build back it tourism base with these complicated and costly entry procedures.For some people $350 is chump change, so they'll be back. The Covid economic recovery has to start somewhere so I give them points for trying (anything). There might be a need for us all to chill out a bit to move ahead I'm afraid.
LookingLooking
02-01-22, 08:10
The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.
Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.
One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.I have gotten covid and recovered in Thailand.
My own experience is that throughout the whole ordeal, I have never tested positive on ATK tests. But my PCR test was positive (same day I tested negative even on ATK) and I was down with mild symptoms (exactly like the symptoms they say about the new variant on news). After I recovered, I returned to my country and still got tested positive on PCR (you can still test positive after recovery from covid). Till then I still tested negative on ATK tests.
Houston Player
02-01-22, 08:43
The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.
Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.
One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.Max, I have to ask you a question. Do you personally know any expats living here who tested positive and had to quarantine in a hospital or field hospital or hotel? I ask because I do not know of any. Myself and one of my friends tested positive at Bumrungrad hospital (we knew we were positive but wanted to get early treatment to speed up the recovery process). Never of us were required to quarantine in the hospital or any other government required facility. We were allowed to quarantine in our condos The Thai health department was notified and they checked on us regularly by phone. They also notified our condos management teams with our positive status and instructions for taking care of us for 14 days. I. E. Delivering any take out food or other online purchases from the market directly to our rooms. We were given the option of going to a specific hotel for 14 days for 150,000 Thai baht which we declined.
Tourists on the other hand would probably have no options besides a hospital or a quarantine designated hotel. Thankfully they did treat us as expats a little differently by allowing us to stay in our seperate condos.
LookingLooking
02-01-22, 12:38
Max, I have to ask you a question. Do you personally know any expats living here who tested positive and had to quarantine in a hospital or field hospital or hotel? I ask because I do not know of any. Myself and one of my friends tested positive at Bumrungrad hospital (we knew we were positive but wanted to get early treatment to speed up the recovery process). Never of us were required to quarantine in the hospital or any other government required facility. We were allowed to quarantine in our condos The Thai health department was notified and they checked on us regularly by phone. They also notified our condos management teams with our positive status and instructions for taking care of us for 14 days. I. E. Delivering any take out food or other online purchases from the market directly to our rooms. We were given the option of going to a specific hotel for 14 days for 150,000 Thai baht which we declined.
Tourists on the other hand would probably have no options besides a hospital or a quarantine designated hotel. Thankfully they did treat us as expats a little differently by allowing us to stay in our seperate condos.If you have a thai residence address, you are allowed to quarantine in your residence. Whether its owned or rented. Doesn't matter if Thai or foreigner.
Yes, tourists don't have this option.
Banana Boi
02-01-22, 14:08
We were given the option of going to a specific hotel for 14 days for 150,000 Thai baht which we declined.150,000? That's $4,500 US! I had better be getting true Japanese Kobe beef, all you can eat bluefin tuna, and Foie Gras for that price!
LookingLooking
02-01-22, 15:04
150,000? That's $4,500 US! I had better be getting true Japanese Kobe beef, all you can eat bluefin tuna, and Foie Gras for that price!That's actually not the real bill. That's the deposit. Usually the deposit amount covers more than the expected total bill. The balance would be refunded after discharge and settlement of the bill.
Yes, I think that a fair prognosis of when sanctions will be lifted, which will put us right at the start of low and very hot season — April, May, more or less. Not much help to anyone, certainly not tourists who generally prefer coming in the cooler and dry months.
The current restrictive Test and Go (and test again. WTF) entry requirements plus the risk of being sent to hospital quarantine are probably going to be scrapped in a couple of months if there are no major spikes in covid cases. Hopefully in 2 or 3 months they will both be gone.
Most expats here in Bangkok have decided that if they get covid that they will quietly isolate at home if the symptons are not too bad. Likewise if one has to go anywhere near a PCR test it is best to take a good ATK / Rapid test before hand. Would not be great to have to spend 14 days in Hospital Q.
One point on ATK or Rapid Tests. Many Thai pharmacies have a cheaper version, THB 75 or so. They are not very accurate. The more expensive tests that are around THB 200 from Boots or Watsons are much more reliable, not perfect but way better than the generic ultra cheap test.
And a mamasan at one of the bars told me the mandatory tests to enter are over for now. We'll see.
I buzzed by around 8:30 PM. At a mamasan's urging when she saw me and called me by name, I parked my bike and went onto Soi Cowboy to have a drink at one of the makeshift outdoor beer bars. "I haven't seen you here in a long time. I only see you at Nana! Good to see you here" she said to me.
A girl I have known for years stepped out of her group of friends and fellow bargirls, mostly lookers, and blocked my way in front of Kazy Kozy so I couldn't miss her. In my book she is still an easy solid 8 among Bangkok go-go bargirls even at the ripe old age of must be 24 by now. She seemed happy to see me and I was happy to see her.
I told her I would buy her a drink. She seemed thrilled, especially since there must have been 40-50 girls at various bars on the soi and maybe only a dozen or so customers including me. I ordered mine and she leaned in and said "coke and tequila". I asked her to repeat it to make sure I heard right. She did.
Well, I'll be damned, the old "coke and tequila" scam that Soi Cowboy is more famous for than any other bar area in the city. See, the girl assumes some rube tourist won't realize, notice or make a fuss over the fact that she just ordered 2 ladydrinks, not the one drink you offered or agreed to buy her. There is no "coke and tequila" cocktail. That is two ladydrinks. On this soi, that's about 400 baht right now. My club soda was 160 baht.
I probably should have just stood up and said bye right then and there. But for old time's sake with this girl I didn't. However, I did say, "No, honey. That's two drinks, not one. I'll buy you one now".
Then I waited for her to start entertaining me since I was the paying customer and she was the "entertainment. " But nothing of the kind happened. It was all on me. "How have you been? Good to see some of the bars re-opening. Last time I saw you was at blah blah blah," that sort of thing.
Maybe the fact that I did not allow her to pull a classic scam on what has always lived up to in my opinion the scammiest bar area in Bangkok, Soi Cowboy, put a damper on her mood. Oh well. She downed that coke damn fast and asked if I would buy her another drink. Uh no.
I cut it short, paid my bill, thanked her for her time and stood to leave. The mamasan said, "Why you go? She likes you!" I told her, "She tried to pull that old "coke and tequila" scam on me. You haven't seen me in a while? It's going to be a while longer before you or anybody else on this soi sees me here again. Take care".
I guess I have a low tolerance for bullshit these days. Sometimes I wonder why I ever bother to give Soi Cowboy another chance to prove to me it isn't the scammiest scam bar area in Bangkok if not all of Thailand. As far as I can recall, it had been about a year before Covid that I'd had a minimally acceptable barfine and sex experience with a Soi Cowboy bargirl that wasn't fraught with one scam attempt after another in the bar or in the room. I had put another Soi Cowboy girl from another bar out with only 200 baht just a few weeks ago for pulling some bullshit in the room.
Anyway, I then buzzed by an area further down on Sukhumvit where a perfectly ordinary girl-next-door type young lady I have seen a few times lately can often be found sitting with her family, watching the world go by. I stopped my bike, waved Hi, she quickly got up and walked over to hop on the back of my bike.
I would say she comes in at a 6.5 at best. I am sure many guys here would look at her pic and say "I'll pass. Where are the hot, sexy babes?" But they would be missing out on one of the sweetest, most gently accommodating, lovely young ladies of no more than about 22 years old they'd ever have. Fit young body, super smooth skin, sweet, almost a dreamgirl type face. And, most of all, nothing like a typical hooker or bargirl. And one of the finest, young, baby-free, snug, firm and wet pussies around.
Hey, not that she is homely at all. If she'd been my date at my 50 Year High School Reunion in the USA that was called off last year for Covid, she'd be an off-the-chart 10! Every old lady in the place would have wanted to kill her and then me. And, IMHO, every heterosexual man in the place including the young hotel staff would have been delighted to fuck her.
But in this environment, I'd say about a 6.5 at best.
I had a very rewarding, relaxed, no hurry Short Time in my apartment with her, I gave her 1,500 baht and she hugged me in thanks for it like it had been 15,000 baht. Her being a kinda' sorta' regular girl type of freelancer and not a bargirl, there was no barfine, no ladydrinks, no hassles and no regrets from me I assure you. Seriously, I had only skipped one day of fucking and finishing, only took one of my usual 100 MG Sidegras, yet my dick felt rock hard and aching to finish inside this little honey from the moment of insertion.
I've had plenty of sex with a couple of favorite repeats lately that I would consider high 7's or solid 8's among Bangkok hookers. However, the sweetness of this girl and having lovely real sex with her was a totally satisfying treat that had me ready to bust a nut as though I'd been celebate for a week.
Explorer8939
02-01-22, 19:09
Yes, I think that a fair prognosis of when sanctions will be lifted, which will put us right at the start of low and very hot season April, May, more or less. Not much help to anyone, certainly not tourists who generally prefer coming in the cooler and dry months.The volume of customers in Pattaya bars is very predictable. I told my harem during the summer that they would all forget me in High Season, which they did. When Songkran ends, and the customers leave town, the ladies will find my social media contacts again.
Anyway, my plan was to leave town during High Season. Mission accomplished.
Member #4753
02-02-22, 01:49
If you have a thai residence address, you are allowed to quarantine in your residence. Whether its owned or rented. Doesn't matter if Thai or foreigner.
Yes, tourists don't have this option.In order to self isolate you need the permission from the condo. Our condo unfortunately does not allow self isolation. Since the pandemic started there have been 15 cases in our condo, all carted off to hospitals / hospitels.
Gaijin Gigolo
02-02-22, 07:41
Anyway, I then buzzed by an area further down on Sukhumvit where a perfectly ordinary girl-next-door type young lady I have seen a few times lately can often be found sitting with her family, watching the world go by. I stopped my bike, waved Hi, she quickly got up and walked over to hop on the back of my bike.
I would say she comes in at a 6.5 at best. I am sure many guys here would look at her pic and say "I'll pass. Where are the hot, sexy babes?" But they would be missing out on one of the sweetest, most gently accommodating, lovely young ladies of no more than about 22 years old they'd ever have. Fit young body, super smooth skin, sweet, almost a dreamgirl type face. And, most of all, nothing like a typical hooker or bargirl. And one of the finest, young, baby-free, snug, firm and wet pussies around.You the man. That is exactly the type of gal I look for whenever I'm in BKK. I have zero interest in bar girls, gogos or soapies. But the girl you described is perfect in my book. That's the type who will give forth 100% and you leave you trembling in your bedsheets. I'll be in BKK in a few months, getting some dentures done. Can't wait to find my own next set of consecutive honeys.
Gaijin Gigolo
02-02-22, 07:48
In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.
I also just recently discovered a treasure trove of websites featuring 'sideline' girls. All in Thai, of course, but google will translate for you. The prices are sure a lot better than what most of you numbskulls seem all to eager to pay as well. Check and report back. Go.
https://fiwfans.com/
https://www.sidelinethailand.com/
https://www.dek-sideline.com/
https://www.tiger-clubsideline.com/
https://www.ydclub.website / home-page.
https://sideline2u.com/
https://xn--c3cspb1dibx6e2g0bc5a1fd.com/
https://www.fanfinfin.co/
You're welcome.
And a mamasan at one of the bars told me the mandatory tests to enter are over for now. We'll see.
Superb info.
In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.
I also just recently discovered a treasure trove of websites featuring 'sideline' girls. All in Thai, of course, but google will translate for you. The prices are sure a lot better than what most of you numbskulls seem all to eager to pay as well. Check and report back. Go.
https://fiwfans.com/
https://www.sidelinethailand.com/
https://www.dek-sideline.com/
https://www.tiger-clubsideline.com/
https://www.ydclub.website / home-page.
https://sideline2u.com/
https://xn--c3cspb1dibx6e2g0bc5a1fd.com/
https://www.fanfinfin.co/
You're welcome.Sharing is caring!
Gaijin Gigolo
02-03-22, 08:32
Sharing is caring!Yepper! Share back if you have any luck with any of these.
Banana Boi
02-03-22, 14:19
In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.
I also just recently discovered a treasure trove of websites featuring 'sideline' girls. All in Thai, of course, but google will translate for you. The prices are sure a lot better than what most of you numbskulls seem all to eager to pay as well. Check and report back. Go.
https://fiwfans.com/
https://www.sidelinethailand.com/
https://www.dek-sideline.com/
https://www.tiger-clubsideline.com/
https://www.ydclub.website / home-page.
https://sideline2u.com/
https://xn--c3cspb1dibx6e2g0bc5a1fd.com/
https://www.fanfinfin.co/
You're welcome.I believe this list is very similar to the sites posted in Khundig's Sideline girl thread. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4261-Bangkok-Sideline-Websites.
HorseTrader
02-03-22, 16:21
In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.I started using ThaiFlirting in 2017 and what you say is true. They do have a premium version, but the only upgrade of which I'm aware is unlimited use of their translator, for which you can substitute any free translation app.
The shortcomings of ThaiFlirting are that it is a much smaller database than than ThaiFriendly and far fewer girls are looking for P4P. It's very good for people who are seeking a vacation girlfriend with possibility of becoming a wife.
ThaiFriendly is much better if you are looking to connect online today and fuck tomorrow (or sooner). I recommend that traveling punters get a paid ThaiFriendly membership a week or two before travel and maintain it for the duration of your trip.
MissionAsia
02-04-22, 01:40
I'm finally back in Thailand for the next few months, luckily made a window where there's only 1-day quarantine, and flew to Samui for a little non-mongering style relaxation.
And guess what? I caught covid, even though I have 3 vaccinations and I'm quite careful about wearing my mask, except when I eat at restaurants.
I took 2 brands of quick tests, both returned negative results, but I was feeling so bad I went to a hospital, and tested positive.
The entire experience (besides what was probably one of the worst flus I've had) wasn't terrible. The hotel they quarantined me in had an ocean view, and the food wasn't bad.
Still. It shows that even being careful and vaccinated you can get infected.
I'm finally back in Thailand for the next few months, luckily made a window where there's only 1-day quarantine, and flew to Samui for a little non-mongering style relaxation.
And guess what? I caught covid, even though I have 3 vaccinations and I'm quite careful about wearing my mask, except when I eat at restaurants.
I took 2 brands of quick tests, both returned negative results, but I was feeling so bad I went to a hospital, and tested positive.
The entire experience (besides what was probably one of the worst flus I've had) wasn't terrible. The hotel they quarantined me in had an ocean view, and the food wasn't bad.
Still. It shows that even being careful and vaccinated you can get infected.Witch one (s) Sinovac? Or maybe Sputnik V?
I'm finally back in Thailand for the next few months, luckily made a window where there's only 1-day quarantine, and flew to Samui for a little non-mongering style relaxation. And guess what? I caught covid, even though I have 3 vaccinations and I'm quite careful about wearing my mask, except when I eat at restaurants. I took 2 brands of quick tests, both returned negative results, but I was feeling so bad I went to a hospital, and tested positive. The entire experience (besides what was probably one of the worst flus I've had) wasn't terrible. The hotel they quarantined me in had an ocean view, and the food wasn't bad. Still. It shows that even being careful and vaccinated you can get infected.I too would be interested in what vaccines you got. I too caught covid here in Pattaya (took an antigen test when I was feeling a bit feverish) but I just stayed in my condo for 4 days and when I felt better took another test that came back negative. There is a big risk going to the hospital as a tourist if your feeling a bit ill, that ocean view hotel could easily have been a one star motel with no window and an old tv and then a 20,000 baht bill after 10 days. And you can't argue you'll self isolate in your condo, some condo's have rules saying you can't stay there with covid.
Pretty amazing to hear given your vax status. Guess you are fortunate this occurred in Samui rather than Bangkok where rumor has it, a case of Covid would land you in a hospitel prison or a normal hospital. How many days are you in quarantine and how many days were you planning to spend in a Thailand overall?
I'm finally back in Thailand for the next few months, luckily made a window where there's only 1-day quarantine, and flew to Samui for a little non-mongering style relaxation.
And guess what? I caught covid, even though I have 3 vaccinations and I'm quite careful about wearing my mask, except when I eat at restaurants.
I took 2 brands of quick tests, both returned negative results, but I was feeling so bad I went to a hospital, and tested positive.
The entire experience (besides what was probably one of the worst flus I've had) wasn't terrible. The hotel they quarantined me in had an ocean view, and the food wasn't bad.
Still. It shows that even being careful and vaccinated you can get infected.
Witch one (s) Sinovac? Or maybe Sputnik V?It is known from the beginning that vaccines doesn't prevent you from being infected, even the American and European ones.
Your comment implies that the two above cited brands are less effective than the Western made ones.
Interestingly, these two brands are coming from countries that America is desperately trying to fight with.
You sound like a very heavily brainwashed guy.
And guess what? I caught covid, even though I have 3 vaccinations and I'm quite careful about wearing my mask, except when I eat at restaurants.Yes, I caught Covid after 3 vaccinations too, fortunately it was very light just like a cold so 2 AstraZeneca and a pfizer saved me from ending up in ICU with a tube down my throat.
SpirouleGroom
02-04-22, 13:04
Yes, I caught Covid after 3 vaccinations too, fortunately it was very light just like a cold so 2 AstraZeneca and a pfizer saved me from ending up in ICU with a tube down my throat.I can't help laughing every time I come across Covid narrative here. Pfizer should be proud of his little boys here.
I got Covid two weeks ago, like million others in France. Fever and cramps. Took ivermectine, the banned poison used by millions, and got back to work the day after.
Fortunately, my fifth shot prevented me from being in a coma. Two Moderna, two pfizer, one novavax in order to test recombined spike protein and one classic Valneva just to be sure.
You are a bunch of sissies. Kids are swapping gums in order to get Covid now and to avoid shots.
It is known from the beginning that vaccines doesn't prevent you from being infected, even the American and European ones.
Your comment implies that the two above cited brands are less effective than the Western made ones.
Interestingly, these two brands are coming from countries that America is desperately trying to fight with.
You sound like a very heavily brainwashed guy.Why the ad hominem? Because his "implied" opinion differs from yours? Toss in a bit of impled US bashing, besides?
I got the Modernas, all three. I haven't got covid as far as I know. My kid had the SinoVac with a Pfizer booster. She got the Rona.
Whoopee. When is Thermae opening that's all I care about.
You are right, these covid junkies are really funny, always smile when I read about their ICU paranoia.
Any recent experiences with Bangkok G-clubs, namely The Pimp? Saw Natty Bumpo's reports from a while ago, wondering if anyone has been there since Covid. Still the top place for head turners?
Yes, I think that a fair prognosis of when sanctions will be lifted, which will put us right at the start of low and very hot season April, May, more or less. Not much help to anyone, certainly not tourists who generally prefer coming in the cooler and dry months.I think when the sanctions will be lifted the country will be flooded with (sex) tourists, no matter if it's 'only' 30 degrees C. or 40 degrees C. out there. And lots of tourists means lots of girls will come back from their provinces. So there won't be a low season this year, when that happens.
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Banana Boi
02-06-22, 15:23
I think when the sanctions will be lifted the country will be flooded with (sex) tourists, no matter if it's 'only' 30 degrees C. or 40 degrees C. out there. And lots of tourists means lots of girls will come back from their provinces. So there won't be a low season this year, when that happens.I agree with this. Once Thailand agrees to no quarantine and no PCR test on arrival there will be a huge flood of all sorts of tourists. Won't matter if it's high or low season.
Now that some guys are posting actual reviews in Pattaya Reports and Bangkok Reports hopefully we can all respond to COVID discussion posts in the COVID thread.
In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.
I also just recently discovered a treasure trove of websites featuring 'sideline' girls. All in Thai, of course, but google will translate for you. The prices are sure a lot better than what most of you numbskulls seem all to eager to pay as well. Check and report back. Go..When I use google to translate the website, all the content disappears.
Is there a way to make this work, or do I need to browse in Thai and only copy and paste the text to translate?
Any recent experiences with Bangkok G-clubs, namely The Pimp? Saw Natty Bumpo's reports from a while ago, wondering if anyone has been there since Covid. Still the top place for head turners?The Pimp is a giant waste of money. Everything is extra $ there and be sure to watch your bill and keep track of what is ordered or they will add to your bill.
You're much better off getting a luxury hotel suite and a couple top girls from nana+ booze for the same price. Pimp girls are not that hot, unless maybe you like cheaply done boob jobs.
GuyBrusg1957
02-07-22, 05:48
Any recent experiences with Bangkok G-clubs, namely The Pimp? Saw Natty Bumpo's reports from a while ago, wondering if anyone has been there since Covid. Still the top place for head turners?I think the pimp is still closed but will likely reopen in a few months.
HorseTrader
02-07-22, 05:55
When I use google to translate the website, all the content disappears.
Is there a way to make this work, or do I need to browse in Thai and only copy and paste the text to translate?There are some cases where I need to do exactly what you suggest, copy and paste to my translation software. Very easy on a laptop.
ActionGene
02-07-22, 06:11
When I use google to translate the website, all the content disappears.
Is there a way to make this work, or do I need to browse in Thai and only copy and paste the text to translate?I use Google Chrome with Google Translate and it automatically translates all the Thai to English as if I am browsing the website completely in English. I do not have to copy and paste. The browser automatically changes everything to English as I navigate the website. The only thing that does not translate automatically is pictures that have Thai (or other languages) in the pictures. Basically it will not auto-translate anything that you cannot copy and paste. Try using Google Chrome if that is not your standard browser. You can also add the Google Translate extension for Google Chrome and that will give you some additional translation features as well.
Member #4753
02-07-22, 08:58
I think the pimp is still closed but will likely reopen in a few months.I think you are right, I believe all the big Gentlmans clubs have all been closed since the big Delta surge which was allegedly started in the G Clubs around ThongLo namely the Krystal Club and Emerald Club.
For anybody that complains about the prices in Nana etc. These clubs are on another level. Prices so high will make your nose bleed!
Crocodilexp
02-07-22, 09:23
Newbie question from a non-newbie.
I noticed the only truly vibrant and cheerful area on an otherwise depressing Sukhumvit is the cluster of bars on Soi 7. What's the typical barfine at those bars and what do they charge for ST / LT right now?
Not much of a drinker and I didn't want to ask without intending to take anyone.
Member #4753
02-07-22, 11:01
Interesting story in news today from Kanchanaburi.
A german man was found dead hanging from his iron fence. Apparently his wife of 21 years had just left him. The house was set on fire and a large message was painted on the wall.
"21-year cheating but never enough, fuck you".
LookingLooking
02-07-22, 13:23
Newbie question from a non-newbie.
I noticed the only truly vibrant and cheerful area on an otherwise depressing Sukhumvit is the cluster of bars on Soi 7. What's the typical barfine at those bars and what do they charge for ST / LT right now?
Not much of a drinker and I didn't want to ask without intending to take anyone.From what I know, there's no official price for ST / LT because they act as purely bars. You can barfine to take a girl out to other places. For ST / LT you will have to negotiate directly between yourself and the girl. You don't have to drink, just buy the girls drink. They make miserable amounts of money on a normal night. The lady drink they sell, they only get half of it as their daily wage. No fixed wage for them. If they don't sell any on 1 night, they get 0. Some night they may even have to make a loss for those staying far away.
Knew 1 of them who is staying in rama 2 area. Have to spend almost 300 baht a day on 2 way motorbike taxi to Sukhumvit area to work. If she doesn't make 300 baht that night (sell at least 3 lady drinks), she's making a loss. Of course she may be lying. But 300 baht a night wages isn't much, I'll give it to her anytime if she's entertaining.
Not all the bars there feature girls only.
There are other "vibrant and cheerful" places. It depends on your definition of "vibrant and cheerful".
Newbie question from a non-newbie.
I noticed the only truly vibrant and cheerful area on an otherwise depressing Sukhumvit is the cluster of bars on Soi 7. What's the typical barfine at those bars and what do they charge for ST / LT right now?
Not much of a drinker and I didn't want to ask without intending to take anyone.Barfines are usually 500-600 baht. The girls will generally accept 1,500-2,000 for ST, 2,000-2,500 for LT.
That is, if they go at all. And, as usual, looks and popularity will effect the amount of baht they will quote and / or accept. And I find some girls won't quote a price at all and just leave it up to you. You being an experienced punter and possibly coming across as an expat who lives here, the latter response is more likely to happen than if you come across as a real newbie. They'll know you aren't going to pull some stunt like handing them 500 baht after a great LT.
Now, bear in mind, I often hesitate to chime in on these questions because, as you know, my approach is probably unlike the way 95% of Thai punters go about things. Meaning, I am likely to actually say I want BBFS+CIP or whatever term for it the girl will understand upfront and in the bar before paying a barfine and taking a girl. Or, at the very least, that she would finish a BBBJ with a true 100% CIM. Particularly if she is the one who quotes a price or brings up the money part first.
So, forgive me Croc and others if my numbers turn out to be off quite a bit or even the part about some girls not going with customers at all. I have no doubt that all those things are effected by what I generally need to get settled upfront before I take a girl that most other punters don't.
From what I know, there's no official price for ST / LT because they act as purely bars. You can barfine to take a girl out to other places. For ST / LT you will have to negotiate directly between yourself and the girl. You don't have to drink, just buy the girls drink. They make miserable amounts of money on a normal night. The lady drink they sell, they only get half of it as their daily wage. No fixed wage for them. If they don't sell any on 1 night, they get 0. Some night they may even have to make a loss for those staying far away.
Knew 1 of them who is staying in rama 2 area. Have to spend almost 300 baht a day on 2 way motorbike taxi to Sukhumvit area to work. If she doesn't make 300 baht that night (sell at least 3 lady drinks), she's making a loss. Of course she may be lying. But 300 baht a night wages isn't much, I'll give it to her anytime if she's entertaining.
Not all the bars there feature girls only.
There are other "vibrant and cheerful" places. It depends on your definition of "vibrant and cheerful".I have heard and observed all those things as well.
However, it should be mentioned for any newbies reading this that there has never been an "official price" required to pay a girl in a beerbar or go-go bar or enforced by a bar before Covid, now or ever. Unless there is some strange exception I never heard about.
As long as you pay the barfine, a girl can then go with you and give you the greatest LT you ever had for free or demand 5,000 baht for nothing but a smile and a chance to watch her playing games on her smartphone for 10 minutes. It is all up to the girl and what you negotiated with her.
I should also mention in line with the other 'vibrant and cheerful" places point you made, regarding beerbars that is, that there are so many new beerbars open on Soi 4, Soi 6, Soi 7, Soi 8, Soi 11, even Sukhumvit itself and now go-go bars open and operating as beerbars and clubs on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza, the concentration of girls in those Soi 7 bars has lessened quite a bit. They are much more spread out now.
And, despite the ladydrink commission only thing that you correctly cited, if a girl working in or around any bars or on the street is notably above average in looks and not a rip off in bed, she is definitely not hurting for customers or money these days.
A few of my favorite repeats from pre Covid days returned to Bangkok from their provinces a few weeks ago and I can assure you a couple of them can get the kind of dudes who are here now to happily pay 2,500+ for ST twice or more per day and night, require a condom for everything including DFK if they feel like it and ladydrink commission only conditions or problems are not a factor in their lives.
In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.
I also just recently discovered a treasure trove of websites featuring 'sideline' girls. All in Thai, of course, but google will translate for you. The prices are sure a lot better than what most of you numbskulls seem all to eager to pay as well. Check and report back. Go.
https://fiwfans.com/
https://www.sidelinethailand.com/
https://www.dek-sideline.com/
https://www.tiger-clubsideline.com/
https://www.ydclub.website / home-page.
https://sideline2u.com/
https://xn--c3cspb1dibx6e2g0bc5a1fd.com/
https://www.fanfinfin.co/
You're welcome.Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?
How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.
Thanks in advance for the hints.
Member #4753
02-08-22, 03:35
And, despite the ladydrink commission only thing that you correctly cited, if a girl working in or around any bars or on the street is notably above average in looks and not a rip off in bed, she is definitely not hurting for customers or money these days.
A few of my favorite repeats from pre Covid days returned to Bangkok from their provinces a few weeks ago and I can assure you a couple of them can get the kind of dudes who are here now to happily pay 2,500+ for ST twice or more per day and night, require a condom for everything including DFK if they feel like it and ladydrink commission only conditions or problems are not a factor in their lives.This is 100% true.
I have also noticed that girls with "notably above average looks" attitudes or priorities have changed since covid. I think they are less interested in volume and more interested in repeating with regular customers or going with first time customers that appeal to them. They are alot more choosey in who they go with. Before covid it was all about how much cash they could make, after covid they seem to be more interested in a decent lifestyle.
This is 100% true.
I have also noticed that girls with "notably above average looks" attitudes or priorities have changed since covid. I think they are less interested in volume and more interested in repeating with regular customers or going with first time customers that appeal to them. They are alot more choosey in who they go with. Before covid it was all about how much cash they could make, after covid they seem to be more interested in a decent lifestyle.Yes. And I have also gotten the impression that they are quite comfortable with this 100 baht per lady drink commission thing just for easy pocket change for street food snacks and so on, free and easy come and go anytime and any night at any bar or no bar at all, show up as they please or not at all, wearing whatever street clothes they had fun shopping for with all that money or bought for them by customers in addition to their regular support, not having to display their butts and boobs with or without a bikini for hours on stage every night and they don't miss the monthly salary and pressure to meet any quota for anything one bit.
It might be difficult to get many of these girls, new arrivals as well as veterans, back to the old ways if or when this Covid thing ever fades into the manageable background.
Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?
How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.
Thanks in advance for the hints.I suggest that you read this thread, there is a lot of information here as you go back in time.
Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?
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How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.
Thanks in advance for the hints.This was the most detailed overview of those sites I'd read here by someone who apparently uses them a lot.
See Post #50588 here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2617944#post2617944.
My own brief experience with 2-3 of them was chatting on Line with who I realized was never the actual girl whose profile included that Line info, of course, but instead some clerk, pimp or manager who offered nothing of value to me in terms of deciding to book an appointment with the girl or not.
And, frankly, if the assessment of the Thai "sexpert" in the linked post is correct, I would be wasting my time, travel and let's say 1,500 baht at a minimum if among the deadly sins deserving blackballing, getting banned for life or, worse, getting plagued by bait and switch scams going forward are so much as trying for BBFS or submitting a negative review on a girl even if no way she delivered a claimed service such as a genuine BBBJ+CIM or in fact if she herself was actually a disappointing bait and switch lady who showed up in the room after you'd paid in full upfront.
I am sure there must be some cases that turn out well. But I was not tempted to go for it based on those Line chats and overviews I've read here even if 1 in 20 of the girls I met through those sites turned out to be physically lovely. So what, if all those other restrictions and warnings to be a very well behaved boy with little or no expectation of delivery as advertised applying after paying upfront. I can be denied real sex with hotties for a lot less time and effort than that. LOL.
Banana Boi
02-08-22, 12:18
I suggest that you read this thread, there is a lot of information here as you go back in time.Or read the thread in the Sideline Girls link I provided just 3 or so posts from the one he quoted. GaijinGigolo just took the links from that thread and posted them on this thread.
Or read some post's Racshack is posting on Sideline Girls http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2617944#post2617944
HornyDude353
02-08-22, 15:42
Hi guys,
Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?
Thanks in advance.
Banana Boi
02-08-22, 16:41
Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?
I'll take an educated guess that the answer is yes as long as you book a room for 2. If you really want to be certain call or email the hotel before you book. Hotels will tell you.
TourduMonde
02-08-22, 17:44
Question for oldtimers from a BKK first timer. How quiet is Bangkok during and after Songkran? I will be arriving at that time this year (booked uncancelable tickets without realizing). Obviously in a non-Covid year would we expect things to be back up to speed by Saturday or Monday, or is it a whole week or more written off? I'm thinking in terms of both P4P, freebies if I can get them and other tourist stuff in to do in Bangkok as well as whether legit restaurants and bars shut down. They say Songkran celebrations are worth seeing too, but perhaps not for a whole week if everything else is closed.
Wolvenvacht
02-08-22, 22:17
Hi guys,
Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?
Thanks in advance.I was in Thailand last November (Phuket (2 places), Koh Samui, Chiang Rai (2 places) and, if anything, they became even less strict on "joiners". The only thing that got religiously checked was the girl's vaccine status. Most hotels are desperate for guests, so if you book a room for two, they don't object. Booking a room for two isn't more expensive than a room for one, unless you take the breakfast option.
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