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LuvMe17
06-25-22, 05:55
I have been there several times. They always offer hand job during oil and thai massage upstairs. Several other "normal" massage places in the same area also offer hand jobs.

I think you can find better looking women in the area if you are after that. But of course each to their own.What is the regular price for a handjob?

LuvMe17
06-25-22, 06:00
Do you have an address for this new Urban Thai location?

Thanks.Urban Thaď Massage, 1 Rama IV Rd, Suriya Wong.

Chimpo Chinn
06-25-22, 06:35
What is the regular price for a handjob?Old Hag-300 baht.

Pretty - 1,000 plus.

SadGuru
06-25-22, 06:47
DOKI DOKI Massage is one of the better ones for Nuru service. Ask for lady Aunun (my preference, other may differ).

Regarding outcall service, try Smooci dot com. They are like Uber for sex. You can select the girl and order online. The girl shows up at your door in your hotel (er. Most of the hotels).

I have experienced both of above and satisfied.


Hello brothers,

I am visiting Bangkok for the first time and need some help. I am looking for a good nuru massage followed by FS. Could you please recommend the best place in Bangkok? Since I don't come here often, want to experience the best here.

Also, can you recommend a girl who can provide me a good GFE. Someone, I can take to my hotel room without hotel staff creating a ruckus.

Cheers!

Coolcupid.

LuvMe17
06-25-22, 13:47
Read a few articles about prostate massage and was curious to try it once, any experienced member can share some recommendations?

Vacodovacodo
06-25-22, 14:53
Read a few articles about prostate massage and was curious to try it once, any experienced member can share some recommendations?I went to Analisa massage in Soi 6. I originally wanted a body to body massage or oil massage (90 minutes with unlimited shots). The boss lady or whoever it was upsold me to "prostate massage", she said a few hundred more and it includes everything that the one I wanted. So I agreed, I couldn't decide on a girl so she recommended one she said is experienced and skilled.

The massage was pretty good, girl was nice. "Prostate massage" I have no idea wtf I was expecting, maybe something incredible. It felt like having a finger (the girl had a disposable glove for that) up in your ass. I was not aroused by that, it was not sexy, it was not stimulating, a bit painful and quite awkward. I just wanted this part to end and I didn't know if I should tell the girl.

I have no f*ing idea what was I supposed to feel during prostate massage or what the girl was supposed to be doing. On the other hand high-end soapy or oily massages are probably the best thing I experienced, I think good high-end soapy / oily massage is always better than "prostate massage" and often better than normal sex (especially when it includes stuff like shower together, sauna or jacuzzi).

Dg8787
06-25-22, 15:30
Read a few articles about prostate massage and was curious to try it once, any experienced member can share some recommendations?Done properly you can experience an explosive finish. Be advised that some guys will not be able to get hard for a day or two afterwards as it might empty out all your reserve cum.

Recently I go for the exterior prostate massage and HJ and stop it before I cum. This sets me up for a great FS finish.

Chimpo Chinn
06-25-22, 17:21
After a slow week on Sat Rainbow 4 and 5 were heaving. Actually a lot of Barfing going on too.

I don't even know which one but one had some Stars back to work, what a difference just 3 real pretties do to a line-up.

When the Koreans and Japanese start travelling there won't be any seats,. Standing room only.

LuvMe17
06-25-22, 18:19
Done properly you can experience an explosive finish. Be advised that some guys will not be able to get hard for a day or two afterwards as it might empty out all your reserve cum.

Recently I go for the exterior prostate massage and HJ and stop it before I cum. This sets me up for a great FS finish.Where did you get it done from?

LuvMe17
06-25-22, 18:22
I went to Analisa massage in Soi 6. I originally wanted a body to body massage or oil massage (90 minutes with unlimited shots). The boss lady or whoever it was upsold me to "prostate massage", she said a few hundred more and it includes everything that the one I wanted. So I agreed, I couldn't decide on a girl so she recommended one she said is experienced and skilled.

The massage was pretty good, girl was nice. "Prostate massage" I have no idea wtf I was expecting, maybe something incredible. It felt like having a finger (the girl had a disposable glove for that) up in your ass. I was not aroused by that, it was not sexy, it was not stimulating, a bit painful and quite awkward. I just wanted this part to end and I didn't know if I should tell the girl.

I have no f*ing idea what was I supposed to feel during prostate massage or what the girl was supposed to be doing. On the other hand high-end soapy or oily massages are probably the best thing I experienced, I think good high-end soapy / oily massage is always better than "prostate massage" and often better than normal sex (especially when it includes stuff like shower together, sauna or jacuzzi).Dg8787 has got a completely different review about it, now I am in a soup. Was the rest of the massage and service worth what you paid for at analisa. If it was then may be I can take a risk just to try something new.

GrapeMan
06-25-22, 18:58
Read a few articles about prostate massage and was curious to try it once, any experienced member can share some recommendations?If you want a girl to stick a dildo up your ass, they will, they don't care, its less work for them. If that's your thing, have at it, just before you start or pick a girl, be clear what you want her to do.

Papae Noel
06-25-22, 20:48
Hello brothers,

I am visiting Bangkok for the first time and need some help. I am looking for a good nuru massage followed by FS. Could you please recommend the best place in Bangkok? Since I don't come here often, want to experience the best here.

Also, can you recommend a girl who can provide me a good GFE. Someone, I can take to my hotel room without hotel staff creating a ruckus.

Cheers!

Coolcupid.Looks like SadGuru already offered you 2 suggestions.

It seems you are a little bit worried about some hotel staff giving you a problem (probably much different in your country).

If you are really concerned for your safety having some unknown woman going up to your room, you can always ask that the hotel front desk keep her ID until she comes back down. This used to be a normal practice in some hotels, but very rare these days. Generally, you would establish contact with the girl on WhatsApp. Pre arrange the time she estimates for arrival at your hotel lobby. Send her your foto, and a foto of where you will meet her in the lobby. She might ask you for your room number, but that is only for verification that you are actually at that hotel. Elevators in most hotels require a room key, so it is not possible for someone to just go up to your room.

It's not easy for a first time visit, and not easy to read the last 100 pages of this forum (but you should try to do so), so just relax, and enjoy your time. Many Indians come to Bangkok, so you might even find someone to help you.

Utente1391
06-26-22, 01:37
Could any experienced lad share how easy it is to get BBFSCIP in BKK or Pattaya? How many girls you need to go through on average?

Shukracharya
06-26-22, 07:29
Hey guys,

Has the Thai govt done away with the restrictions to enter the country? The whole Thai pass fiasco is over after July 1 and can one come to Thailand without being driven crazy with covid regulations or demands?

Godfingerzzz
06-26-22, 07:37
Try the back street of Soi Cowboy, turn left at the end. There is a row of massage shops on the right side. Take your pick, but be ready to bargain, as they will give you the "hard sell". I negotiated to 2,000 baht, which is probably high, but the service was excellent and, well worth it in my opinion. Best of luck!

Mahya
06-26-22, 08:28
Planning a trip to Thailand can anyone tell me which is best time to visit thailand and where I can find pick up values. Just checked on internet and found this pick up bar video.

https://youtu.be/A0PbzTmvd3g

Sarha Otzar
06-26-22, 09:56
Hey experts!

Is there a disadvantage if I get an AirBnb near safari world which is located about 45-1 hour from the center?

I find Airbnb lot more comfort to order escorts, and I don't mind relying on taxi or other public transportation.

But will it be a problem for escorts to come to my appt? I mean, other than extra money for the travel expenses? Do they charge the travel time in the time I order to spend with the girl? (I. E if I want her for 3 hours does that include the travel time?

Also, I saw escorts mentioning tour service. It could be nice, as a loner in Bangkok, if I have a companion to show me around. Rather than just having sex and all but do they really help and explain about Bangkok in general and help with finding good restaurant and attractions in daytime? In other words: is it worth it?

Thanks!

Sarha Otzar
06-26-22, 12:13
Hey experts!

I wonder if it's worth renting an AirBnb appt located a tiny bit from the center.

Planning on ordering an escort to come there, but will it make her charge more for it? Or even worse, will some just refuse to come based on the distance?

Also, most escorts mention "guide" service. Is it a real thing? If I want her to show me around. Explain about the city, maybe some history idk I know some people order 8+ hours, what do they do other than sex and restaurants? I imagine it can be nice to have the escort showing me around I think. Isn't that GFE?

Thanks!!

Member #4753
06-26-22, 12:23
I dropped by Nana for the first time in a couple of months. Things are definitely picking up, most clubs are open and there is a sustainable level of girls. Customers are definitely thin on the ground on the quite days like Monday to Thursday.

The ladies are now mostly wearing bkikis or even topless. Previously they had to wear dresses to comply with covid rules. They were deemed restaurants apparently in order to open up.

I observation. As there did not seem to be a ton of girls, most only quoted short time at the Hotel within Nana. I guess to get back and keep the club full. Spanky's was even quoting 4 k ST / 7 k LT, that is one way to ensure the girls are always present within the club WTF?

All in all had a decent time in there still not quite back to normal times.

Crocodilexp
06-26-22, 16:19
Renting an AirBnb 1 hour drive from sukhumvit 1 hour away from the action? Why would you do that? There's no shortage of centrally located, affordable accommodation. The whole point of Thailand is that you get out, and you're there.

Yes, being far out will limit your options. No idea whether some unspecified escort will ask for extra money, they're already ridiculously overpriced, so who knows.

Also, if by a drive, you mean no mass transit and just taxis, that's a nightmare. A 1 h drive can turn into a 2 h drive at the wrong time. Stay where you want to be.

LuvMe17
06-26-22, 20:12
Hey experts!

Is there a disadvantage if I get an AirBnb near safari world which is located about 45-1 hour from the center?

I find Airbnb lot more comfort to order escorts, and I don't mind relying on taxi or other public transportation.

But will it be a problem for escorts to come to my appt? I mean, other than extra money for the travel expenses? Do they charge the travel time in the time I order to spend with the girl? (I. E if I want her for 3 hours does that include the travel time?

Also, I saw escorts mentioning tour service. It could be nice, as a loner in Bangkok, if I have a companion to show me around. Rather than just having sex and all but do they really help and explain about Bangkok in general and help with finding good restaurant and attractions in daytime? In other words: is it worth it?

Thanks!1 hour away is a bad idea, I would never do that. I am living near patpong and so happy with that, sometimes you don't get the girl you want or the girls ditches you last minute. No problem just walk out and choose another one, or get a massage or go to a gogo bar, there are so many options available that too any time of the day. Yesterday night I could not sleep so went out for a walk, it was around 2 am and the gogo bars girls were going back home, just picked up 1 hotti and fucked her till 4 in the morning. Thats the fun of being in thailand, you will miss all this if you stay out of the main action area.

Meorme
06-26-22, 20:18
Hey experts!

Is there a disadvantage if I get an AirBnb near safari world which is located about 45-1 hour from the center?

I find Airbnb lot more comfort to order escorts, and I don't mind relying on taxi or other public transportation.

But will it be a problem for escorts to come to my appt? I mean, other than extra money for the travel expenses? Do they charge the travel time in the time I order to spend with the girl? (I. E if I want her for 3 hours does that include the travel time?

Also, I saw escorts mentioning tour service. It could be nice, as a loner in Bangkok, if I have a companion to show me around. Rather than just having sex and all but do they really help and explain about Bangkok in general and help with finding good restaurant and attractions in daytime? In other words: is it worth it?Bangkok has unbelievably bad traffic. In some places, I have gotten into taxis going West on major road when I was going someplace to the East. 30 minutes later I was passing the spot I was picked up finally going the other direction. Not joking. It can turn into an absolute fucking mess.

Stay closer. Find a map of BTS (skytrain) and MRT (subway) and stay at least near those lines. They are fast, easy to use, and a very pleasant ride.

Or just stay near sukhumvit between Soi 4 and 24.

Escorts will want extra to get all the fucking way out to wherever. I imagine you could convince some of them to travel all the way to Chang Mai if you paid enough, but why?

If you want to try one of the massage shops, that's an hour in a taxi, on a good day, if your lucky.

Find a girl in a bar or a gogo, 20 minutes into the taxi she's going to get the car stopped to get the fuck out and maybe even ask you for money to get back, at least. That's just way out in nowhere, they won't want to go there.

And yes, I'm sure if you want to pay an escort to show you around, they will happily take your money. Don't expect them to know a damned thing about history, "compulsory" education in Thailand ends at 8th grade. Get used to sitting in a taxi with her. Any site seeing is an hour away, more really, from safari world to what Po or the grand palace, you're going to go to lower sukhumvit area, and than another hour (or more) past it. There probably isn't a whole bunch to go see out where you're looking. Most of them have little idea how to explain anything that might be of interest to you about Bangkok, or Thailand. Even common thing like Buddhism, spirit houses, etc. , don't expect much. Food they can probably tell you all about, but don't know any restaurants that aren't an hour away.

If you're worried about escorts coming to a hotel, especially around lower sukhumvit, just don't. Every hotel there sees dozens come through their lobby every night. Usually coming in with a guy and leaving alone. Some hotels, you could just hang out in an elevator and hit on any girl "going down". Ya. It's that normal in these hotels. Those hundreds of women working in gogo bars in Nana and on the street in front of it go somewhere with the guys that pick them up. And, surprisingly, many of these hotels let girls go right up to your room door alone if you call an escort. (I made private arrangement with girls in massage parlors several times, first time expecting call from the desk or lobby, but no, right up to the room door. At the Westin.)

Meorme
06-26-22, 20:31
Dg8787 has got a completely different review about it, now I am in a soup. Was the rest of the massage and service worth what you paid for at analisa. If it was then maybe I can take a risk just to try something new.It's really beyond me how the hell this other guy was unable to let the girl sticking her finger up his ass to stop, that he didn't like it.

If you don't like it just tell her to stop. Even if on the off chance she really gets into fingering guys asses, she knows she'll get another chance with another guy soon enough.

And if she's worked there a while, she probably understands this all better than you, and while she may want to try harder to make you like it, cause the other guy did, and maybe she's just doing something wrong this time, I still can't imagine her not stopping if you just tell he too.

CaliGuy33
06-26-22, 22:49
Hey,

I'll be in BKK for the first time since 2019 in one month. I'll be staying by the Ploenchit BTS.

Anyways, are there a lot of street walkers available in the Nana / Asok area at night? I recall near the Stumble Inn there would be a ton of freelancers. Curious of that is still the case.

Thanks.

Member #4753
06-26-22, 23:16
Hey experts!

I wonder if it's worth renting an AirBnb appt located a tiny bit from the center.

Thanks!!There are plenty of AirBnb in the lower sukhumwit area. They will work out about 1/3 cheaper than a hotel.

Sukhumwit Road starts at the city center and each lane to the left is an even number soi, Each lane to the right is an odd number soi.

Lower Sukhuwit goes from soi 2 to perhaps soi 23/22 which is Asoke on the BTS (skytrain) There is tons of action in this area.

Soi 25 up to 50 are still good and many people stay there. The further up the sois to cheaper it gets geneneraly.

A condo on soi 50 will be 2/3 the cost of one at Asoke soi 21.

LuvMe17
06-27-22, 04:36
Planning a trip to Thailand can anyone tell me which is best time to visit thailand and where I can find pick up values. Just checked on internet and found this pick up bar video.

https://youtu.be/A0PbzTmvd3gMost gogo bars are open now, you can come any time. Sawadi kaaaaaaa.

TConor
06-27-22, 05:24
Most gogo bars are open now, you can come any time. Sawadi kaaaaaaa.555 x 1. 50% = 832.5 .

Sarha Otzar
06-27-22, 05:52
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Stay closer. Find a map of BTS (skytrain) and MRT (subway) and stay at least near those lines. They are fast, easy to use, and a very pleasant ride.

If you're worried about escorts coming to a hotel, especially around lower sukhumvit, just don't. Every hotel there sees dozens come through their lobby every night. Usually coming in with a guy and leaving alone. Some hotels, you could just hang out in an elevator and hit on any girl "going down". Ya. It's that normal in these hotels. Those hundreds of women working in gogo bars in Nana and on the street in front of it go somewhere with the guys that pick them up. And, surprisingly, many of these hotels let girls go right up to your room door alone if you call an escort. (I made private arrangement with girls in massage parlors several times, first time expecting call from the desk or lobby, but no, right up to the room door. At the Westin.)Thank you very much for the detailed reply!

I'm listening to your advice, will go to a hotel for sure.

Can you give 2 names of hotels you suggest? Money isn't my top concern, but also not looking for too luxurious hotel since I guess I'll be out of it for the most part of my trip.

What's most important for me is a big bed and a big shower. A good breakfast is also a big advantage. Thanks again!!

Member #4753
06-27-22, 13:08
There are plenty of AirBnb in the lower sukhumwit area. They will work out about 1/3 cheaper than a hotel.

Sukhumwit Road starts at the city center and each lane to the left is an even number soi, Each lane to the right is an odd number soi.

Lower Sukhuwit goes from soi 2 to perhaps soi 23/22 which is Asoke on the BTS (skytrain) There is tons of action in this area.

Soi 25 up to 50 are still good and many people stay there. The further up the sois to cheaper it gets geneneraly.

A condo on soi 50 will be 2/3 the cost of one at Asoke soi 21.Each lane to the left is ODD, each lane to the right EVEN.

I shouls not post after beers - 555.

Nite_Runner
06-27-22, 13:45
1 hour away is a bad idea, I would never do that. I am living near patpong and so happy with that, sometimes you don't get the girl you want or the girls ditches you last minute. No problem just walk out and choose another one, or get a massage or go to a gogo bar, there are so many options available that too any time of the day. Yesterday night I could not sleep so went out for a walk, it was around 2 am and the gogo bars girls were going back home, just picked up 1 hotti and fucked her till 4 in the morning. Thats the fun of being in thailand, you will miss all this if you stay out of the main action area.Completely agree. And I'm sure that doesn't include traffic. There are 100's of reasonable accommodation options within walking distance of Sukumvit that are very, very safe. Also, I'd recommend you stay in the Sukumvit area until you get your feel for the area as it is very ex-pat friendly and safer. You will have no problems in finding talent to go to your hotel as long as you have baht.

N_R.

SsivTapti
06-27-22, 22:06
Thank you very much for the detailed reply!

I'm listening to your advice, will go to a hotel for sure.

Can you give 2 names of hotels you suggest? Money isn't my top concern, but also not looking for too luxurious hotel since I guess I'll be out of it for the most part of my trip.

What's most important for me is a big bed and a big shower. A good breakfast is also a big advantage. Thanks again!!agoda.com

Adelphi Suites Bangkok, Dream Hotel Bangkok, Radisson Suites Bangkok Sukhumvit all these range $40 to $60 per night.

The list of hotels is endless near Sukhumvit.

Airbnb near Sukhumvit too.

Ben Birdwell
06-28-22, 01:04
agoda.com

Adelphi Suites Bangkok, Dream Hotel Bangkok, Radisson Suites Bangkok Sukhumvit all these range $40 to $60 per night.

The list of hotels is endless near Sukhumvit.

Airbnb near Sukhumvit too.Adelphi Suites is great! I usually stay there when I'm in Bangkok. It's location is great. Just down the street from the Nana BTS station. Clean and friendly staff. Breakfast isn't shabby either!

Chimpo Chinn
06-28-22, 01:35
Hey,

I'll be in BKK for the first time since 2019 in one month. I'll be staying by the Ploenchit BTS.

Anyways, are there a lot of street walkers available in the Nana / Asok area at night? I recall near the Stumble Inn there would be a ton of freelancers. Curious of that is still the case.

Thanks.Available but of lower than low quality.

Member #4753
06-28-22, 02:41
Has anyone had luck in finding any cute young no baby damage massage girls in BKK?

Care to share via PM?

Perhaps you have just left BKK and won't see her again, pass the info on the a frequent poster on (hopefully good info).

Dg8787
06-28-22, 04:34
Where did you get it done from?I had the first one done by an older Chinese woman in the US. Years ago I had some done in BKK. It is always a hit and miss with different masseuses and shops. The better ones I have had was a massage shop in Manila that specialized in it before Covid. I believe they have closed down.

Some of the Korean massage spas in Angeles City, PH do it. They call it Jelipsum massage. Not all are pros at it. The pros know how to massage the exterior of the prostate and testicles and slow strokes on the penis. I tell them not to finish me off as I find this Jelipsum massage really prepares me for an explosive FS finish later.

You might look for a Korean massage spa, if they existing in BKK.

BTW, during the first times I had to get past my homophobic feeling with someone playing with my A hole.

Good luck in finding one.

Explorer8939
06-28-22, 07:03
Thank you very much for the detailed reply!

I'm listening to your advice, will go to a hotel for sure.

Can you give 2 names of hotels you suggest? Money isn't my top concern, but also not looking for too luxurious hotel since I guess I'll be out of it for the most part of my trip.

What's most important for me is a big bed and a big shower. A good breakfast is also a big advantage. Thanks again!!If only there were a section here on Bangkok hotels.

FernandoAlonso
06-28-22, 20:39
It has been a while.

Lucky I spent a few days in LOS after the long COVID hiatus. Pretty much everything is back to normal, however on a less busy level. Prices gone up but if you cannot get laid in LOS, well shame on you.

Thailand pass and insurance are past but were actually no real problem, 30 minutes max and you have all you need for immigration. Get the free SIM card and pay the online rates NOT what they post on the booths at luggage pick up. I paid 300 for 16 days 20 GB (Dtac) got a "free" SIM card with my Covid insurance but am sure if you ask you will get the same deal. Change some money at the orange Superrich downstairs before boarding the AirportLink, if you still have 35 Baht better change at the green one's headquarter for the best rates or wherever you consider convenient. Both have Apps so rates are fully transparent.

Get a hotel in Asoke area for convenient logistics and go fuck your brains out. Hotels allow early check in and do not insist on visitor registration in my experience as guests are still scarce. Line is a must, OKC and TFF can be helpful but I found the whole online thing time consuming and little productive. Got an appoint from a freelancer 2000ST but she never showed up at my hotel.

Massage parlours: same as always but they now ask 1000 for a HJ and 2500 for FS. The latter you may get down to 2000, still to much IMHO for the quality (or lack thereof) you receive, but the options are everywhere. For a good massage avoid the ones with the suggestive clad ladies trying to lure you in but I found the massage quality varying even with the veggie ones.

Specialised MP: Tulips kept the old prices and A+ service, SW is closed (RIP my favourite), Cherry told me only normal massages but I might have been too early in the day. All have a lack of customers and providers are older and of medium looks but lots of enthusiasm and experience.

Soapies: there is a new one in / near Soi 23 called Aya with nice decorations (for whoever that is important), high prices but a decent lineup (get their line and they will send you the lineup of the day). Standard room starts at 2300 for 60 min at current discount, 4000 gives you a 90 min in a Jacuzzi room and goes up to 10 k for 2 girls in the Super VIP room. Girls seem to partially come from former Eden but I found no A+ service on offer. It is owned by a bunch of foreigners so let's see how long it lasts. I find it overpriced but you know what you get. The other soapies seem closed, at least the ones I know (Annies, Nataree and the ones around it but I did not a lot of research by foot, I had better things to do).

BJ bars: woods still a cheap 800 Baht but few girls, a bit rushed service, 7 Heaven 1300, cute girls well trained but a bit sterile and pricey. Did not find Dugaporn (Heaven, Lolitas, Kasalong etc. Are gone.

SW on Sukhumvit and Thermae: lots of newly female outside, in Thermae quality rather low (also for the non alcoholic beverages AVOID) prices up to 3000 be for ST, I found it depressing and service not matching the prices, even I got a cute little spinner on her first day (or month / year LOL) on the job. Prices on the street quoted were 1500, even 1000 but I did not find that worth the bad looks. Enough choices though.

Soi 23: most bars open now with girls outside and no customers inside, Arab bars all still closed (sharks is a makeshift restaurant LOL), not the party atmosphere from the past and the cuties outside seem still to be the marketing and not working squad.

Nana Plaza: more action in general.

Airport departure very fast and efficient, no need to show up hours in advance. Hope that helps, pm for more details and enjoy not having to wear masks, you lucky bastards! At the moment Thailand seems together with German FKK the easiest option for a sexacation.

Go enjoy.

FA.

Beijing4987
06-28-22, 21:55
Fernando. I sent you a PM.

I should have chosen Suzhou4987 instead of "Beijing" don't go there anymore.

Meorme
06-29-22, 01:50
Thank you very much for the detailed reply!

I'm listening to your advice, will go to a hotel for sure.

Can you give 2 names of hotels you suggest? Money isn't my top concern, but also not looking for too luxurious hotel since I guess I'll be out of it for the most part of my trip.

What's most important for me is a big bed and a big shower. A good breakfast is also a big advantage. Thanks again!!The best breakfast I can remember having was at the Landmark. I can't remember anything about the bed or shower though, it was many years ago and they were remodeling (my soon to be remodeled room was a good deal at the time).

More recent trips, I've traveled enough for work to stay with reward points at hotels I wouldn't otherwise recommend. But there is at least 100 of them to choose from. Too many really, overwhelming selection.

TConor
06-29-22, 05:35
The best breakfast I can remember having was at the Landmark. I can't remember anything about the bed or shower though, it was many years ago and they were remodeling (my soon to be remodeled room was a good deal at the time).

More recent trips, I've traveled enough for work to stay with reward points at hotels I wouldn't otherwise recommend. But there is at least 100 of them to choose from. Too many really, overwhelming selection.One hell of a buffet breakfast both on the roof and on the ground level. My only problem was when I thought I had made it from the bar through the lobby to the elevators, the hotel dick would always manage to assist me to the front desk to pay a 500 baht companion fee. Of course this had nothing to do with breakfast, more a happy hour ritual.

FernandoAlonso
06-29-22, 05:38
Fernando. I sent you a PM.

I should have chosen Suzhou4987 instead of "Beijing" don't go there anymore.None of us does, sadly. Time to find greener pastures.

FA.

Chimpo Chinn
06-30-22, 01:30
Nana still a bit lacking of customers.

Rainbow 5 does have several very attractive girls on display.

Surprise surprise above mentioned have no problem getting pulled off stage while the rest wonder What About Me.

Looks always matters.

Member #4753
06-30-22, 02:44
You regularly hear that there is not really beautiful girls in the BKK in Nana, Cowboy, Patpong.

I agree with this, any super hotties that appear at one of there places get pretty quickly sniped and taken out of the game.

I frequently chat to insta ho types online. That is the new normal to find the super hottie model types and the rates they quote reflect this. Standard rate for these types tend to be anywhere from 7 k to 15 k.

Chimpo Chinn
06-30-22, 03:38
This is not about dangers of being a Bargirl.

Japan. Porn star is found tied to a tree deceased, maybe 2 weeks.

What I found interesting is she charges $1,000 at session. What made me double take is she isn't that Pretty. I'd believe she would have a hard time meeting agoho quotas for full salary.

Now we know why Japanese salarymen are so hot for Thailand.

BionicMan
06-30-22, 10:59
Hey experts!

I wonder if it's worth renting an AirBnb appt located a tiny bit from the center.

Planning on ordering an escort to come there, but will it make her charge more for it? Or even worse, will some just refuse to come based on the distance?

Also, most escorts mention "guide" service. Is it a real thing? If I want her to show me around. Explain about the city, maybe some history idk I know some people order 8+ hours, what do they do other than sex and restaurants? I imagine it can be nice to have the escort showing me around I think. Isn't that GFE?

Thanks!!1 hour away from the action? Nonsense, as many said.

An escort to be a tourist guide? Good luck.

An escort to show you around restaurants? Bkk has a restaurant every 50 meters.

GFE is something else and takes place in the bedroom.

Escorts usually charges 5000 or more for ST (not saying it's appropriate price), they might ask you 15/20 k each day, plus her food, beverages and I am sure she will have some shopping to do.

Mitian 1994
06-30-22, 12:26
Hi Friends.

I have a 9 HR layover at Don Muang airport and not sure if its worth to go through the immigration and pay 2000 Baht for visa and then take a hotel for same cost just for 5-6 hours.

Any information on the SPAs at the airport? Do they offer extras there? And how are the sleeping Pods there .

Thanks in advance.

Mitian.

TConor
07-01-22, 01:03
Hi Friends.

I have a 9 HR layover at Don Muang airport and not sure if its worth to go through the immigration and pay 2000 Baht for visa and then take a hotel for same cost just for 5-6 hours.

Any information on the SPAs at the airport? Do they offer extras there? And how are the sleeping Pods there .

Thanks in advance.

Mitian.Where are you coming from and where are you going. If say Phuket or some island, leave a day early and enjoy a night in town.

Penny
07-01-22, 16:07
Hey experts!

I wonder if it's worth renting an AirBnb appt located a tiny bit from the center.

Planning on ordering an escort to come there, but will it make her charge more for it? Or even worse, will some just refuse to come based on the distance?

Also, most escorts mention "guide" service. Is it a real thing? If I want her to show me around. Explain about the city, maybe some history idk I know some people order 8+ hours, what do they do other than sex and restaurants? I imagine it can be nice to have the escort showing me around I think. Isn't that GFE?Just an advice.

This forum has so much info. If you have read them you will realise that BKK is the last place on earth that you would waste your money on an escort. There will be plenty of regular girls to guide you in the city, if you invest some time on Tinder or any app that help you connect with semi pros or regulars. Paying for escort in BKK is a joke. A real big one!

Vankee2010
07-01-22, 16:08
Hey folks,

I will be traveling first time to Bangkok.

Please suggest good hotel to stay and near by some hot area to feel heat.

Thanks in advance.

HorseTrader
07-01-22, 19:01
Hey folks,

I will be traveling first time to Bangkok.

Please suggest good hotel to stay and near by some hot area to feel heat.

Thanks in advance.There are hundreds, check the Bangkok Hotels thread for comments on a few specific places. Recommend staying within 5 minute walk of Sukhumvit Road Between Nana Entertainment Plaza and Soi Cowboy. Google maps is your friend. Also, Hotels.com, Agoda.com and some others.

Saigon Sammy
07-01-22, 19:10
I'm typing this FR as I'm sitting in Billboards. 1:00 am the crowd is dying down a little bit but this place was packed when I first got here around 12:45. 160 for a Heineken. Lots of pretty Thai ladies but I would say there are slightly more dudes at this time. I went to Doki Doki earlier in the day so I'll post about that later. No one has a mask on here or in the whole plaza. Everything is slowly getting back to normal.

Juanjo767
07-01-22, 20:13
Hey guys, just thought that I would take the time to provide you with my views on the current situation here in Bangkok. This is just my honest unfiltered opinion for those who are interested in flying in for a visit. You should not have to spend a ton of money to come here just to find out how things truly are.

Getting straight to the point, Bangkok is nowhere near where it was. It would appear that it will take at least a year to get up and running. I am not even talking about getting back to where it was. There are whole sections of the city that no longer exist. The food court in Siam Center is gone. There are still some restaurants there, but the food court is gone. The outdoor market northeast of Central World, to the east of the Palladium is now just an empty lot. You would not even be able to tell that there used to be a market there.

In 2019, before they closed the border, Bangkok had over 25 million tourists. You can just imagine how much of an impact losing that many visitors would have on the local economy / infrastructure.

Entire hotels have been, and still are, shuttered. One of my favorite hotels in the area won't be open for business until August / September. It would appear that some will never reopen. I walked by a 10-15 story hotel today that is shuttered (very depressing.).

Getting a taxi (Grab), is a chore and more expensive. Before it was like $2-3 for wherever you wanted to go. Now, I feel that I MUST get a SUV (7/ trip) just to be sure that I will find something dependable / available. When I have tried to just get a car, I have received messages that there were no drivers available, or if I did connect with a driver, the driver stiffed me, and I ended up having to get a SUV anyway.

If you do not already have a credit / debit card added to Grab, get ready to have to pay for your taxi with cash. There appears to be some new law in place that prevents foreigners from using their credit cards. Bolt would only allow me to use cash. I eventually found a way around this for Grab, but it was not straight forward.

You no longer need to wear masks anywhere in Bangkok, except for public transport. HOWEVER, everyone still wears masks, and I mean EVERYONE. Although some of the major businesses, like Siam Paragon have signs up to let you know that masks are optional, they are not optional everywhere. I have been asked to put my mask on in several modern well-ventilated locations. Today, security in the Watsons pharmacy made me put on a mask. The Silom Complex has a sign at the entrance asking you to wear a mask throughout the mall. In short, the government no longer requires you to wear a mask, but business can still require it. It is hard to not feel like a "dirty farang", when you are like 1 of 1,000 without a mask.

In terms of the "talent", gone are the young, vibrant, spinners that I knew and loved. They have essentially lost 2. 5 years of recruitment and a lot of girls returned home, so that makes sense. I would also assume that those who returned home told horror stories of how they were not making any money. That would scare off some of the potential newer recruits. Bars will not be able to get in new talent until the tourists come back with a vengeance. There is not even enough tourists here right now to support those who are already working. All that will take some time. For now, you will need to deal with lower quality service providers.

All of that said, Thailand is still Thailand. The Siam vibe is still alive and well here. The food remains phenomenal, and truly mind-blowing gastronomical experiences can be found throughout Bangkok.

If you are planning on coming here, especially if you came here before, you would need to become more of an explorer as opposed to someone returning to known stomping grounds. Gone are a lot of the places that I used to eat at. However, I was able to find other places that are just as good.

LuvStJohn
07-01-22, 22:18
Hey folks,

I will be traveling first time to Bangkok.

Please suggest good hotel to stay and near by some hot area to feel heat.

Thanks in advance.Lots of places on Sois 2 and 4. I've always been partial to Soi 2 since it's a quieter and less traffic, but it's still close to the action, such as it is, in Soi 4.

DarkNeko69
07-01-22, 23:36
Hey guys, just thought that I would take the time to provide you with my views on the current situation here in Bangkok. This is just my honest unfiltered opinion for those who are interested in flying in for a visit. You should not have to spend a ton of money to come here just to find out how things truly are.

Getting straight to the point, Bangkok is nowhere near where it was. It would appear that it will take at least a year to get up and running. I am not even talking about getting back to where it was. There are whole sections of the city that no longer exist. The food court in Siam Center is gone. There are still some restaurants there, but the food court is gone. The outdoor market northeast of Central World, to the east of the Palladium is now just an empty lot. You would not even be able to tell that there used to be a market there.

In 2019, before they closed the border, Bangkok had over 25 million tourists. You can just imagine how much of an impact losing that many visitors would have on the local economy / infrastructure.

Entire hotels have been, and still are, shuttered. One of my favorite hotels in the area won't be open for business until August / September. It would appear that some will never reopen. I walked by a 10-15 story hotel today that is shuttered (very depressing.).Going to start off by saying, I'm a newbie to Bangkok but not to Thailand or SEA in general. I just went to other places cause my thought process was "big city = bigger prices". So far that has proved me right. This is my first time spending any real time in BKK and getting a feel for what it had to offer in comparison to Phuk and Patts.

Mask thing is weird just as he said. Masks everywhere as a Courtesy honestly. I don't mind it. I do remove mine when I'm walking or have enough space around people but on the MRT or Skytrain its mandatory. I've not been asked to put it on in Terminal 21 or any other mall or anything so YMMMV.

Janjo has not been the only person to express that a lot of talent left BKK and its plain to see. Shuttered Bars, Hotels, Gogos, Clubs, businesses everywhere. I have a friend that lives in BKK and he was showing me around all the "spots" like Si lom, nana, cowboy, soi 22 and a few others and you could see the quality just isn't what he claimed it used to be. My entire thought process while here for 2 weeks was "I'm not impressed". The bars or massage places all have older than I'm used to seeing ladies in them. Most looks to be mid-30's into 40's. The most good looking ones are as expected at the Gogos.

Price wise I was shocked. I am not sure it just after effects of COVID or if its always been this way. I was frequently being Quoted upwards of 3-4 k baht for ST and around 7 k for LT. Again I will preface this by saying some of the places we were going were not my usual bag. I don't usually like Gogos so I can't say that's standard but even there and reading some of the reports lead me to believe otherwise. My friend was not offered anywhere near those amounts but he speaks Thai and often did the negotiating for me. Bars weren't full, There was plenty of walking room even among the busy hours (8 pm-2 am) and there seemed to be a lack of "customers".

Tinder, TF, and Skout has been my lifeline out here for that kind of fun. I've been catfished once (she has good pictures but they were obviously pre-covid as she gained about 20 kg during that time). Many of them have said they used to work at the bars and clubs but since covid turned them down they turned to Camsites and Freelance work and its been well for them.

Food is Great. People outside of Gogo's are genuinely amazing. A lot of great conversations and people sharing experiences. Even the Taxi driver don't seem as pushy. (Pre-covid persistent Taxi drivers trying to take me to a massage was worse than flies on shit, now a simple "no I'm good" and they move along.) One night the friend of mind and I sat on the street with some locals and shared their liquor and chilled and ate food and shot the shit until 4 am. It was chill.

To wrap things up. As a essentially first timer to BKK I would say its still fun to be had. But if your expecting mindblowing experiences like the stories or expecting anything of "how it used to be" than shelf that. Things have shifted and its plain to see even to someone who hasn't been here. I'll be kicking down to Patts in a few days. From reports and my contacts, I'm expecting a much better experience. There is a lot of fun to be had. But make sure you check those pockets before you do. Always remember YMMMV.

ShinyCrazy
07-02-22, 00:25
Hey guys, just thought that I would take the time to provide you with my views on the current situation here in Bangkok. .Thank you for the update. This is exactly the info we all need. I have plans to go around February, so I'm hoping things liven up before then. My primary targets are the fresh slim cheerful younger providers, not the hardened 35-45 yo olds. Sounds like those are the providers still hanging around. Yes, I have had mind blowing experiences at Eden Club at the hands of "mature" providers, but that's not my fave. And Eden Club is gone, anyhow.

I have the option of hitting Pattaya or Phuket in addition to BKK (and maybe Chiangmai). Still trying to figure out which location will have the first fresh faces arriving from Isaan. Is the beginning of the pipeline Soi 6 in Pattaya and / or the Sukumvit Soi 22 and Soi 24/1 massage shops in BKK? Do they usually "graduate" from those venues to become gogo girls? Please tell me I won't be stuck looking on my phone on fiwfans?

Dan Key
07-02-22, 00:37
Fiwfans advertises paying extra for.

Break / split face or mouth.

The google translation from Thai is correct. I've been into some kinky stuff, but never a punchup. Can anyone enlighten me as to what this involves?

TConor
07-02-22, 00:57
Thank you for the update. This is exactly the info we all need. I have plans to go around February, so I'm hoping things liven up before then. My primary targets are the fresh slim cheerful younger providers, not the hardened 35-45 yo olds. Sounds like those are the providers still hanging around. Yes, I have had mind blowing experiences at Eden Club at the hands of "mature" providers, but that's not my fave. And Eden Club is gone, anyhow.

I have the option of hitting Pattaya or Phuket in addition to BKK (and maybe Chiangmai). Still trying to figure out which location will have the first fresh faces arriving from Isaan. Is the beginning of the pipeline Soi 6 in Pattaya and / or the Sukumvit Soi 22 and Soi 24/1 massage shops in BKK? Do they usually "graduate" from those venues to become gogo girls? Please tell me I won't be stuck looking on my phone on fiwfans?I suppose you are dead or not? But What Juanjo767 is pretty much the case. Give it a year or so IMHO.

Member #4753
07-02-22, 01:03
The biggest issue with Bangkok right now is that Sunday to Wednesday is really dead in the clubs etc. Thursday to Saturday some places can get busy but most still struggle.

The issue is too few customers to really get the industry going at the moment.

Kookey
07-02-22, 01:27
Hey folks,

I will be traveling first time to Bangkok.

Please suggest good hotel to stay and near by some hot area to feel heat.

Thanks in advance.Book Ruamchitt Hotel with double occupancy and stay alone. Best place and decent one considering you can take girls from Thermae cafe straight up.

Tip. Wait for closing hours of Thermae, guess its 11 pm, be there by 10:30 pm and can get some discounted prices.

Good luck!

PrincePoldi
07-02-22, 04:57
Hi there,

Are soapies like Emmanuelle open? I read that someone else said they had reopened but wonder if anyone else can verify this.

Mtfsmtfs
07-02-22, 08:55
Fiwfans advertises paying extra for.

Break / split face or mouth.

The google translation from Thai is correct. I've been into some kinky stuff, but never a punchup. Can anyone enlighten me as to what this involves?I guess that means cum on face / cum in mouth?

Paolo99
07-02-22, 10:02
Fiwfans advertises paying extra for.

Break / split face or mouth.

The google translation from Thai is correct. I've been into some kinky stuff, but never a punchup. Can anyone enlighten me as to what this involves?It's probably related to CIM and COF rather than hitting the girl's face.

Member #4753
07-02-22, 10:08
Fiwfans advertises paying extra for.

Break / split face or mouth.

The google translation from Thai is correct. I've been into some kinky stuff, but never a punchup. Can anyone enlighten me as to what this involves?Come on face.

EihTooms
07-02-22, 10:18
I have read a couple of comments that masks are still mandatory on the MRT / Subway and the Skytrain.

My experience has been masks are no longer mandatory on the MRT / Subway as of July 1. There are no longer any signs illustrating or stating that masks must be worn. On July 1 I forgot I wasn't wearing a mask on the street, entered the MRT station at Sukhumvit (Terminal 21 Mall), passed all the masked security guards at the escalator, through the turnstile past the masked guards, down the steps, entered a train car and was three stations along my way before it suddenly dawned on me I was the only one not wearing a mask.

At my destination station, before I passed through the exit turnstile I walked up to a masked guard still without my mask and outright asked if it was ok for me not to wear a mask. He gave me a thumbs up and ok sign.

Same with all of the 7-11's and most of the malls I have walked into since July 1; Terminal 21, Siam Paragon, Central Chidlom, Central World, EmQuartier and Emporium. No masks required, not even in their food markets, since July 1.

Now, I am not sure about the BTS / Skytrain just yet. I have not had a reason to pass through a Skytrain station turnstile since July 1 without a mask to see what happens. But I can tell you that just like the MRT there are no longer any illustrations or signs indicating that masks must be worn in the BTS Asoke station entrances.

The closest I got to testing it was walking right up to the turnstile without a mask in full view of the various guards looking directly at me and none of them waved me back or pointed to their masks to indicate I ought to put one on. If I didn't have someone waiting for me in the mall at the time I would have run the test all the way into a train car.

LuvStJohn
07-02-22, 19:23
This is one of the few more active boards in Thailand, so I apologize for asking a question like this. Does anyone know of an honest to god chiropractor (or Osteopath, which is similar) in BKK, preferably near Sukhumvit BTS line? I did try the 'search thread' function but it seems to say 'connecting to. ' but never connects.

BTW, I don't need a Thai massage, so no suggestions about that please.

Thanks for the help.

Chimpo Chinn
07-03-22, 00:32
I have read a couple of comments that masks are still mandatory on the MRT / Subway and the Skytrain.

My experience has been masks are no longer mandatory on the MRT / Subway as of July 1. There are no longer any signs illustrating or stating that masks must be worn. On July 1 I forgot I wasn't wearing a mask on the street, entered the MRT station at Sukhumvit (Terminal 21 Mall), passed all the masked security guards at the escalator, through the turnstile past the masked guards, down the steps, entered a train car and was three stations along my way before it suddenly dawned on me I was the only one not wearing a mask.

At my destination station, before I passed through the exit turnstile I walked up to a masked guard still without my mask and outright asked if it was ok for me not to wear a mask. He gave me a thumbs up and ok sign.

Same with all of the 7-11's and most of the malls I have walked into since July 1; Terminal 21, Siam Paragon, Central Chidlom, Central World, EmQuartier and Emporium. No masks required, not even in their food markets, since July 1.

Now, I am not sure about the BTS / Skytrain just yet. I have not had a reason to pass through a Skytrain station turnstile since July 1 without a mask to see what happens. But I can tell you that just like the MRT there are no longer any illustrations or signs indicating that masks must be worn in the BTS Asoke station entrances.

The closest I got to testing it was walking right up to the turnstile without a mask in full view of the various guards looking directly at me and none of them waved me back or pointed to their masks to indicate I ought to put one on. If I didn't have someone waiting for me in the mall at the time I would have run the test all the way into a train car.Mandatory or not Somchai the Security guard will tell you to put it on.

Juanjo767
07-03-22, 03:23
I have read a couple of comments that masks are still mandatory on the MRT / Subway and the Skytrain.

My experience has been masks are no longer mandatory on the MRT / Subway as of July 1. There are no longer any signs illustrating or stating that masks must be worn. On July 1 I forgot I wasn't wearing a mask on the street, entered the MRT station at Sukhumvit (Terminal 21 Mall), passed all the masked security guards at the escalator, through the turnstile past the masked guards, down the steps, entered a train car and was three stations along my way before it suddenly dawned on me I was the only one not wearing a mask.

At my destination station, before I passed through the exit turnstile I walked up to a masked guard still without my mask and outright asked if it was ok for me not to wear a mask. He gave me a thumbs up and ok sign.

Same with all of the 7-11's and most of the malls I have walked into since July 1; Terminal 21, Siam Paragon, Central Chidlom, Central World, EmQuartier and Emporium. No masks required, not even in their food markets, since July 1.

Now, I am not sure about the BTS / Skytrain just yet. I have not had a reason to pass through a Skytrain station turnstile since July 1 without a mask to see what happens. But I can tell you that just like the MRT there are no longer any illustrations or signs indicating that masks must be worn in the BTS Asoke station entrances.

The closest I got to testing it was walking right up to the turnstile without a mask in full view of the various guards looking directly at me and none of them waved me back or pointed to their masks to indicate I ought to put one on. If I didn't have someone waiting for me in the mall at the time I would have run the test all the way into a train car.From the Tourism Authority of Thailand (June 24): https://www.tatnews.org/2022/06/thailand-lifts-nationwide-covid-19-restrictions-with-immediate-effect/.

"Outdoor mask-wearing has been endorsed as voluntary although the public are still advised to wear a face mask in crowded places, such as, public transport, markets, and concert venues, or for people with certain health conditions.".

Member #4753
07-03-22, 04:01
Nana is an interesting place right now. It is busy Friday and Saturday but the other nights dead, no customers and lack of staff.

The gogos are still struggling with new business models and lack of staff issues. I think the bars are encouraging staff to do short time only in nearby short term hotels so they can run back and keep the bar appear to be full of women.

Every new "friend" I have met stated that they only do short time only / nearby short time hotel.

One thing to also note. Spankys is setting there short term at 4 k and long term 7 k. I assume to keep the bar full of women as not many punters are going to barfine them at that rate. I spoke to a few newbies there and they had not been barfined in first 2 weeks at spankys Both doable. I declined their rediculous pricing.

EihTooms
07-03-22, 04:02
From the Tourism Authority of Thailand (June 24): https://www.tatnews.org/2022/06/thailand-lifts-nationwide-covid-19-restrictions-with-immediate-effect/.

"Outdoor mask-wearing has been endorsed as voluntary although the public are still advised to wear a face mask in crowded places, such as, public transport, markets, and concert venues, or for people with certain health conditions.".Yes, "advised" to wear one is the idea, but not mandated to do so. At least a dozen MRT security guards at turnstiles and on the train loading platforms looked directly at me not wearing a mask and made no effort in word or gesture to indicate I ought to put on a mask. That was as of July 1.

On the evening of June 30 when many places had already dropped the mask requirement a guard at the entrance to a mall food market stopped me from going in until I put on a mask. But the very next day that same guard didn't say a word or make the same effort when I entered without a mask.

First potentially nice outcome from my not wearing a mask in a mall was a previously reluctant to meet me lovely 21 year old regular, non P4P girl I had only chatted with briefly on ThaiFriendly and then Line said she thought she saw me in Terminal 21 with a friend while she was shopping there too and was that me. Yes, it was. Since she was still wearing a mask I did not recognize her from just having seen her TF and Line photos. Said she passed by me 3-4 times. Now she is eager to meet anytime.

Probably a ladyboy. LOL.

ThaiGoodTimes
07-03-22, 06:06
Thank you for the update. This is exactly the info we all need. I have plans to go around February, so I'm hoping things liven up before then. My primary targets are the fresh slim cheerful younger providers, not the hardened 35-45 yo olds. Sounds like those are the providers still hanging around. Yes, I have had mind blowing experiences at Eden Club at the hands of "mature" providers, but that's not my fave. And Eden Club is gone, anyhow.

I have the option of hitting Pattaya or Phuket in addition to BKK (and maybe Chiangmai). Still trying to figure out which location will have the first fresh faces arriving from Isaan. Is the beginning of the pipeline Soi 6 in Pattaya and / or the Sukumvit Soi 22 and Soi 24/1 massage shops in BKK? Do they usually "graduate" from those venues to become gogo girls? Please tell me I won't be stuck looking on my phone on fiwfans?Hua Hin, and Phuket (but not Patong, think Rawai etc), have always got and are still getting the FotBs (Fresh of the Bus) Isaan girls straight into the bars, and massage.

If these girls hit Bangkok and Pattaya first, then they usually ended up in the gogos at stupid prices.

ShinyCrazy
07-03-22, 12:14
Nana is an interesting place right now. It is busy Friday and Saturday but the other nights dead, no customers and lack of staff.

The gogos are still struggling with new business models and lack of staff issues. I think the bars are encouraging staff to do short time only in nearby short term hotels so they can run back and keep the bar appear to be full of women.

Every new "friend" I have met stated that they only do short time only / nearby short time hotel.

One thing to also note. Spankys is setting there short term at 4 k and long term 7 k. I assume to keep the bar full of women as not many punters are going to barfine them at that rate. I spoke to a few newbies there and they had not been barfined in first 2 weeks at spankys Both doable. I declined their rediculous pricing.Ouch. So the gogos (for now) are just a place to watch girls in bikinis? Sounds like a total waste of time and money. How did you entertain yourself with actual sex? Did you just snag girls from the massage places? Or are there enough girls in the beer bars to find someone doable?

Ggekko2009
07-03-22, 14:09
Any recommendations on where to go and what to do during the 6 hrs layover at BKK between 17:00 to 23:00? I am not talking about sightseeing and the touristy stuff. Something that can help me relax for the next long leg of the flight.

Axel Heyst
07-03-22, 15:01
Nana is an interesting place right now. It is busy Friday and Saturday but the other nights dead, no customers and lack of staff.

The gogos are still struggling with new business models and lack of staff issues.

One thing to also note. Spankys is setting there short term at 4 k and long term 7 k. I assume to keep the bar full of women as not many punters are going to barfine them at that rate. I spoke to a few newbies there and they had not been barfined in first 2 weeks at spankys Both doable. I declined their ridiculous pricing.4 k for ST with (to be kind) plain looking girls. This does not sound very enticing to me.


So the gogos (for now) are just a place to watch girls in bikinis? Sounds like a total waste of time and money. How did you entertain yourself with actual sex? Did you just snag girls from the massage places? Or are there enough girls in the beer bars to find someone doable?My favorite Go Go's where my main source for girls. Favorite Soapy Massage parlors were my 2nd favorite source. Oilies third. I have not heard a word about the soapies on ISG. Places like Maria Hotel & Spa or La Belle. So, I am assuming the soapy situation is not very good.

I get that pretty girls can be found on fiwfans, but I am not a fan of web site sourcing. It requires too damn much time on the internet looking while holed up in my hotel room.

Personally I don't see the point of traveling to BKK as long as things remain as they apparently are. So, is this the end of BKK as a major girly entertainment destination? Maybe. I would have thought that after a 2 year hiatus the girls would have flocked back to the Go Go's and a huge supply would create demand. Apparently not. But until there is a ample quality supply of girls around, I doubt punters in large numbers will return and demand will remain low. It sounds like BKK is in a depression.

Chimpo Chinn
07-03-22, 17:32
4 k for ST with (to be kind) plain looking girls. This does not sound very enticing to me.

My favorite Go Go's where my main source for girls. Favorite Soapy Massage parlors were my 2nd favorite source. Oilies third. I have not heard a word about the soapies on ISG. Places like Maria Hotel & Spa or La Belle. So, I am assuming the soapy situation is not very good.

I get that pretty girls can be found on fiwfans, but I am not a fan of web site sourcing. It requires too damn much time on the internet looking while holed up in my hotel room.

Personally I don't see the point of traveling to BKK as long as things remain as they apparently are. So, is this the end of BKK as a major girly entertainment destination? Maybe. I would have thought that after a 2 year hiatus the girls would have flocked back to the Go Go's and a huge supply would create demand. Apparently not. But until there is a ample quality supply of girls around, I doubt punters in large numbers will return and demand will remain low. It sounds like BKK is in a depression.Hate to say it but sure looks like a Depression.

My optimistic but guarded optimism is just about gone.

Without the Koreans and Japanese free spending. Opening till 2 at m don't mean a thing.

10 pm Nana patrons already leaving with no sight of replacement s.

Indians tipping 20 baht notes isn't going to do it.

Member #4753
07-03-22, 17:49
Ouch. So the gogos (for now) are just a place to watch girls in bikinis? Sounds like a total waste of time and money. How did you entertain yourself with actual sex? Did you just snag girls from the massage places? Or are there enough girls in the beer bars to find someone doable?Everyone has their own plan in BKK. This involves different budgets, different types of girls, places etc. Some guys may come on this board and said they were grabbing 7's all week long from a beer bar for 1500. While another group of guys would walk past the same beer bar and judge all the girls as 4's to 5's and wouldn't fuck them for free. No one is right or wrong it is just we all have a different game.

The guys that like low quality high volume girls loved the pandemic and are continuing to love it. I personally see fewer women but like a higher standard, I wish I could get off on more average looking girls, it would be easier and cheaper but it is what it is.

Anyway, most guys like me went the girlfriend root during thr pandemic. Most of the better looking girls, insta ho group went the boyfriend route. When there was less customers and less new girls it worked well enough. I tend to hang with the girlfriend 3 or 4 nights a week. I might hit a gogo once a week, but the guys I go with generally only drink there and not grab the girls. Sometimes they do, but not often. The gogos tend to have average looking girls at way above average prices. Most of the hottest girls have boyfriends with cash or they get clients through their social media at not very cheap prices. Yes, the massage places are great to slip away quietly and get a little bit. Most guys I know here tend to have a few favourites scattered around the place.

ShinyCrazy
07-03-22, 18:28
The gogos tend to have average looking girls at way above average prices. Yep. I feel like that has been true for a long time. Sounds like it's even more true now. My favorite haunts pre-COVID were massage places for the daytime young undiscovered gems, gogos for fun evening entertainment (but too many bored looking normal looking girls shuffling around a stage pretending to be "dancing", Analisa or DokiDoki or Snow White (and Annie's back in the olden days) for good service, and Eden Club for non-stop action with MILFy older providers until I was exhausted. To be honest, I have always struggled to find the prettiest girls in Thailand. No one venue seems to be the best for looks. Sometimes it feels like needles in a haystack. There are definitely gorgeous Thai girls, but there are a ton of plain Janes. I truly hope that everything moves toward normal by February.

BionicMan
07-03-22, 21:14
Any recommendations on where to go and what to do during the 6 hrs layover at BKK between 17:00 to 23:00? I am not talking about sightseeing and the touristy stuff. Something that can help me relax for the next long leg of the flight.It's rush hour, you might risk to be studied in traffic and by the time you are in lower sukhumvit it's time to head back to the airport.

Late evening sees also many flights to Europe and so security lines might be busy.

DarkNeko69
07-04-22, 00:46
Nana is an interesting place right now. It is busy Friday and Saturday but the other nights dead, no customers and lack of staff.

One thing to also note. Spankys is setting there short term at 4 k and long term 7 k. I assume to keep the bar full of women as not many punters are going to barfine them at that rate. I spoke to a few newbies there and they had not been barfined in first 2 weeks at spankys Both doable. I declined their rediculous pricing.Its not just Nana. Kings Castle 2 in Si Lom and Baccara in Cowboy was also setting 4ST /7 LT as well. Feels like the price of everything is high ATM. No wonder Doki Doki has been having non-stop traffic.


Ouch. So the gogos (for now) are just a place to watch girls in bikinis? Sounds like a total waste of time and money. How did you entertain yourself with actual sex? Did you just snag girls from the massage places? Or are there enough girls in the beer bars to find someone doable?As I said in a previous post. I'm new to BKK but I've been finding decent enough luck around Thermae. Sunday night was packed with Freelancers most of them looked like displaced gogo girls. I counted maybe 4 or 5 over 40's in the almost 50+ girls in there. There were so many there wasn't enough standing room on the sides and girls were spilling out into the streets. I don't know if that normal or not but they were definitely trying to get the bag. I wasn't too partial to the Jap / kor crowd though.

I'm heading down to Pattaya today so I'm hoping the price inflation didn't effect the beer bar girls on 6 down there where I usually hang out. I'll put my report there after my first week and compare the two. Again Gogo's are never my thing but I'll still check them for the sake of efficiency. Until them wish me luck. Happy mongering.

Chimpo Chinn
07-04-22, 01:37
Hot girl alert. Rainbow 5. Number 154. Her braces make her look extra delicious.

More Asian taste type of girl. No Bowling Ball Breasts, all natural. Be cups. Face is 7 plus. Personality checks out.

Problem. She always has customer. Funny how that always happens.

Anyone interact with her?

GuyBrusg1957
07-04-22, 02:11
Hi there,

Are soapies like Emmanuelle open? I read that someone else said they had reopened but wonder if anyone else can verify this.I would like to know the same but I know Poseidon closed. Daisy Dream and Caviar black are open but haven't been there. Would really like to know if La Belle is open.

GuyBrusg1957
07-04-22, 02:14
The biggest issue with Bangkok right now is that Sunday to Wednesday is really dead in the clubs etc. Thursday to Saturday some places can get busy but most still struggle.

The issue is too few customers to really get the industry going at the moment.Think it'll recover by the Fall? Once winter hits Europe maybe people will come back.

Member #4753
07-04-22, 03:20
Think it'll recover by the Fall? Once winter hits Europe maybe people will come back.The entertainment industry in Bangkok was struggling pre covid.

Then hottest girls are simply doing their own thing and never appearing within the clubs or massage places. They get customers off their instagram profiles, or hang out in high end normal clubs seeking to hook up with guys with cash.

The industry badly needs to reinvent itself as the current model is dying.

Juanjo767
07-04-22, 05:25
It's rush hour, you might risk to be studied in traffic and by the time you are in lower sukhumvit it's time to head back to the airport.

Late evening sees also many flights to Europe and so security lines might be busy.He could take the train from the airport, which will only take an hour: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Suvarnabhumi+Airport+(BKK),+999+%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%88+1+Nong+Prue,+Bang+Phli+District,+Samut+Prakan+10540,+Thailand/Soi+Cowboy,+Khwaeng+Khlong+Toei+Nuea,+Khet+Watthana,+Krung+Thep+Maha+Nakhon+10110,+Thailand/@13.7048478,100.5826807,12.5z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x311d67771542274f:0x120d19554f157a07!2m2!1d100.7501124!2d13.6899991!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29ee33cfb207d:0x1380e8861e2db80a!2m2!1d100.5625191!2d13.7369881!3e3.

So, if he accounts for say 2. 5 hours of travel time, and 1. 5 hours for security, he would still have 2 hours. HOWEVER, that assumes that he properly calculated the layover time (meaning that 23:00 is when boarding starts.) If the plane leaves at 23:00, then boarding time could be 30 minutes to an hour before that.

Dion Cassius
07-04-22, 05:40
I went to soi Cowboy 2 nights ago and it is slowly coming back to life.

I ended up in Crazy House and I had a good time there. Plenty of nice girls, many of them naked. I flirted for some some time with a cute spinner (nb 22) who wanted to go for short time with me.

As before, the place is pushing a bit too much to pay for drinks.

Stykler
07-04-22, 06:45
OK, this is a long shot but here I go.

A year or so ago I was browsing You Tube on Bangkok and some dude was referring to an area in Bangkok known as Bangkok's second RLD. I for the life of me can't remember the name of the area he was referring to, and the video has since been deleted. A Google search didn't reveal much at all.

Can any BKK expert out there take a guess to which area he might have been referring to? Thanks.

Member #4753
07-04-22, 09:07
I went to soi Cowboy 2 nights ago and it is slowly coming back to life.

I ended up in Crazy House and I had a good time there. Plenty of nice girls, many of them naked. I flirted for some some time with a cute spinner (nb 22) who wanted to go for short time with me.

As before, the place is pushing a bit too much to pay for drinks.Did they constantly push the " tequila and coke" 2 drink scam on you?

Jackqaz
07-04-22, 11:28
Just wondering if anyone knows if Lolitas or Kasalong have reopened and welcome punters with open mouths again.

Jackqaz
07-04-22, 11:44
Does anyone know if Lolitas or Kasalong is now open again?

Houston Player
07-04-22, 12:41
This is one of the few more active boards in Thailand, so I apologize for asking a question like this. Does anyone know of an honest to god chiropractor (or Osteopath, which is similar) in BKK, preferably near Sukhumvit BTS line? I did try the 'search thread' function but it seems to say 'connecting to. ' but never connects.

BTW, I don't need a Thai massage, so no suggestions about that please.

Thanks for the help.Spine Balance Clinic. Very good Chiropractor.

Member #4753
07-04-22, 12:54
This is one of the few more active boards in Thailand, so I apologize for asking a question like this. Does anyone know of an honest to god chiropractor (or Osteopath, which is similar) in BKK, preferably near Sukhumvit BTS line? I did try the 'search thread' function but it seems to say 'connecting to. ' but never connects.

BTW, I don't need a Thai massage, so no suggestions about that please.

Thanks for the help.Pain Away Clinic are great Physical therapists:

Address: B1 Floor, Interchange 21 Tower, Soi Sukhumvit 21, Bangkok 10110.

I believe they do back work as well as numerous sports injury type stuff. Thoroughly recommended.

ChoduMadan
07-04-22, 13:07
Any recommendations on where to go and what to do during the 6 hrs layover at BKK between 17:00 to 23:00? I am not talking about sightseeing and the touristy stuff. Something that can help me relax for the next long leg of the flight.Best thing to do is to call up a nice outcall massage service like similan or 66 leelathai or fairyland and book a girl for 2 hours, she will do excellent massage and all extras. It is very relaxing and with no hassles, the time can be extended if you like.

SiamMan
07-04-22, 14:37
Come on face.I may be a new poster here, but have been using Fiwifans a fair bit. Most of the time I can work out what the google translations are referring to, such as the "split / break mouth", but one phrase that I have seen several times is girls refusing to accept "pearl inlay". Can MaxBkk or anyone else help as to what "pearl inlay" is referring to.

Nyezhov
07-04-22, 15:45
OK, this is a long shot but here I go.

A year or so ago I was browsing You Tube on Bangkok and some dude was referring to an area in Bangkok known as Bangkok's second RLD. I for the life of me can't remember the name of the area he was referring to, and the video has since been deleted. A Google search didn't reveal much at all.

Can any BKK expert out there take a guess to which area he might have been referring to? Thanks.The areas I have been to, at least for a reconn: Lower Suk, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, Sanam Luang Area. Thanon Sutthisan Winitchai, Petchaburi near Makkasan.

Goatscrot
07-04-22, 16:09
I may be a new poster here, but have been using Fiwifans a fair bit. Most of the time I can work out what the google translations are referring to, such as the "split / break mouth", but one phrase that I have seen several times is girls refusing to accept "pearl inlay". Can MaxBkk or anyone else help as to what "pearl inlay" is referring to.Some Thai men implant pearls under the skin of their penis.

Lefeu
07-04-22, 16:30
Does anyone know if Lolitas or Kasalong is now open again?I was there in Bangkok 2 weeks ago, and I think I saw both of them open. We are talking about the BJ bars in the alley off soi 8, right?

LuvMe17
07-04-22, 17:55
OK, this is a long shot but here I go.

A year or so ago I was browsing You Tube on Bangkok and some dude was referring to an area in Bangkok known as Bangkok's second RLD. I for the life of me can't remember the name of the area he was referring to, and the video has since been deleted. A Google search didn't reveal much at all.

Can any BKK expert out there take a guess to which area he might have been referring to? Thanks.Which one was the 1st RLD? If its NANA / sukumvite then 2nd can be patpong.

Goferring
07-04-22, 18:05
The industry badly needs to reinvent itself as the current model is dying.I realise I'm comparing apples to oranges but I read a news article recently at home showing that the whole night club industry is on the verge of collapse with many, once booming, venues closing. Covid has had a devastating affect recently but structurally Gen Z are no longer turned on by going out to drink to excess, reports of violent altercations nor low strike rates of face to face hook up attempts. These have been replaced by day time cafes with friends and online hook up aps.

I can see similar situations rolling out through Asia's red light area as well. There is no denying the effect of internet options. Many girls simply no longer need the dramas or embarassment of working in bars, seedy massage joints etc.

Enjoy. G.

LuvMe17
07-04-22, 18:06
So I am in bkk for more than 15 days now and have tried most of the things I wanted to and drained my balls to my hearts content, then I met this local guy who became my friend and took me to another Red light district which to my knowledge is not very popular on this forum at least. It had a lot of freelancers on the Road and spoke only thai they knew not a word of english and most of the men around were thai. Most of the girls were average looking and some below average but there were a few good ones too. The best thing about this area was that it was really cheap. Girls would ask 600 tb for st and shot time hotel would cost only 150 tb, I personally dint liked it much as the quality of girls in genral was bad, they seemed to be uneducated girls from near by villages and I am sure they were not very keen on maintaining a good personal hygiene. So I would not want to venture in this area but if you are some one on a very tight budget or some one who would like these kind of WGs you can try venture around the China town night market.

Ggekko2009
07-04-22, 18:15
Best thing to do is to call up a nice outcall massage service like similan or 66 leelathai or fairyland and book a girl for 2 hours, she will do excellent massage and all extras. It is very relaxing and with no hassles, the time can be extended if you like.That could be an option, looks like there are quite a number of cheap hotels around the airport. I can have outcall even if it is just for a few hours. Distance wise, I am not sure if these girls are willing to travel to the area near the airport.

Has anyone tried it?

BHawk
07-04-22, 19:01
That could be an option, looks like there are quite a number of cheap hotels around the airport. I can have outcall even if it is just for a few hours. Distance wise, I am not sure if these girls are willing to travel to the area near the airport.

Has anyone tried it?Ha. My last flight out was late 4 hrs. Asked my fav smooci girl to come out and share the waiting time with me in the terminal hotel and she did. I remember I had the taste of her pussy still on my lips as I went through security.

Will repeat. Great for sleeping through the flight home.

JLactin
07-04-22, 19:12
I went last Friday-Sunday to nana plaza. Some decent looking girls at Spanky's / Rainbows / billboards on Friday, more on Saturday, less on Sunday. I bar fined my first girl and she said 2500 was only if I used one of the rooms at Nana Plaza, if going to my hotel it would take longer would need another 500 baht which I paid. Idc much as I was previously considering 6 k+ baht freelancers. But is this actually a thing or I got hustled?

My hotel wasn't that far either, maybe a 5 minute walk.

If I'm willing to spend 10 k baht on the hottest girl I can find, where do you all suggest I go? I was considering Black Caviar or Maria but not sure if they'd actually be hotter than some of the hotter girls I've seen at Nana Plaza. I was surprised to see that there were a good number of girls at Nana hotter than the freelancers I found advertising on massage republic or even the agencies, of which their pictures are heavily shopped anyways.

Thanks in advance.

Member #4753
07-04-22, 22:55
So I would not want to venture in this area but if you are some one on a very tight budget or some one who would like these kind of WGs you can try venture around the China town night market.The street action in China Town just off Yaowarat Road is famous. The quality is very low as is the price.

Chimpo Chinn
07-05-22, 00:36
The street action in China Town just off Yaowarat Road is famous. The quality is very low as is the price.There is no quality, per SE.

EihTooms
07-05-22, 03:28
I went last Friday-Sunday to nana plaza. Some decent looking girls at Spanky's / Rainbows / billboards on Friday, more on Saturday, less on Sunday. I bar fined my first girl and she said 2500 was only if I used one of the rooms at Nana Plaza, if going to my hotel it would take longer would need another 500 baht which I paid. Idc much as I was previously considering 6 k+ baht freelancers. But is this actually a thing or I got hustled?

My hotel wasn't that far either, maybe a 5 minute walk.

If I'm willing to spend 10 k baht on the hottest girl I can find, where do you all suggest I go? I was considering Black Caviar or Maria but not sure if they'd actually be hotter than some of the hotter girls I've seen at Nana Plaza. I was surprised to see that there were a good number of girls at Nana hotter than the freelancers I found advertising on massage republic or even the agencies, of which their pictures are heavily shopped anyways..I don't think you got hustled at a 2,500 baht (to the girl) rate as long as you got what you wanted or negotiated for in the bar. I get the upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP I want for 2,000 - 2,500 baht (paid to the girl after) plus barfine (paid in the bar upfront) most of the time.

But regarding the bit about her insisting on using a Nana Plaza short time room or you pay an additional 500 baht to take her to your hotel, I can't say I have encountered that. Then again, it usually comes out in our bar chat that I live very nearby and I have a motorbike parked at curbside for a quick ride to my apartment and likely back to NP as well. So that might be why the NP short time room is not insisted upon with me.

However, I will say that many Nana Plaza bars are nutty about keeping as many girls in the bar or close by for quick return on Friday nights these days, maybe slightly less so on Saturday nights.

As has been mentioned by many, those are the biggest customer nights while the rest of the week can be rather dead, many of the better girls not even bothering to show up Sunday. Wednesday. So if the night you took the girl was Friday or Saturday, especially after 9:30 pm or so, that would have been peak customer times for the whole week and the bars want as many hands, feet, faces and butts on deck as possible. Of course, the girls want to be there for the potential flood of Lady Drink commission income as well.

Member #4753
07-05-22, 08:25
There is no quality, per SE.Agreed, Lots of 1's, 2's & 3's. Never seen anything over a 5.

Crocodilexp
07-05-22, 09:40
The street action in China Town just off Yaowarat Road is famous. The quality is very low as is the price.The looks are bad, but no worse than Sukhumvit road these days, with the benefit of fewer ladyboys and some daytime action. The service, however, is truly abysmal.

Crocodilexp
07-05-22, 10:51
Personally I don't see the point of traveling to BKK as long as things remain as they apparently are. So, is this the end of BKK as a major girly entertainment destination? Maybe. I would have thought that after a 2 year hiatus the girls would have flocked back to the Go Go's and a huge supply would create demand. Apparently not. But until there is a ample quality supply of girls around, I doubt punters in large numbers will return and demand will remain low. It sounds like BKK is in a depression.There's no longer an ample supply of working girls in Thailand. Demographics have shifted massively and permanently. Fertility rate has been under 2 children per woman since 1992 (affecting the number of women under 30 now in 2022), compared to the 5+ in the early 1970's (women under 30 back in 2000's). Incomes have also risen significantly, to the point where a typical salary, even on the low end, is sufficient to live on without freelancing part-time.

The difference is stark, but the industry started off huge, there was plenty of inertia, and many punters were refusing to see the changes. For almost a decade, we've seen attrition with very few new faces, but many of the older providers hanging on. This was apparent everywhere, but most obvious in oilies like Tulip.

This situation was dire well before Covid, and the pandemic won't make it better. I just don't see where the large supply of girls would come from. Perhaps the economic crisis brewing in Laos (nearing a breakdown) would send a few working girls over the border, but that won't last long and is unlikely to have large effects down in Bangkok.

Meanwhile, there's no shortage of punters, so with the full reopening, it's only natural to expect prices to go up, and quality way down. At one point, I guess they'll stop coming.

Plenty of places were mongering meccas for a while, but withered due to various factors, usually demographics and increasing wealth of the locals, coupled with some significant event. I hear 1988 Olympic Games killed mongering for foreigners in Seoul and SARS in 2003 killed foreigner bars in Hong Kong. Thailand is here now, unfavorable background trends plus a major event. Now, mongering will never disappear (it still exists in both Seoul in HK), but it might change to be smaller and mostly for locals, no longer worthwhile for most visitors, especially long-distance ones.

JimboCojones
07-05-22, 11:58
I may be a new poster here, but have been using Fiwifans a fair bit. Most of the time I can work out what the google translations are referring to, such as the "split / break mouth", but one phrase that I have seen several times is girls refusing to accept "pearl inlay". Can MaxBkk or anyone else help as to what "pearl inlay" is referring to.Can you send me the word in Thai and I can help you.

Zman429
07-05-22, 13:04
There's no longer an ample supply of working girls in Thailand. Demographics have shifted massively and permanently. Fertility rate has been under 2 children per woman since 1992 (affecting the number of women under 30 now in 2022), compared to the 5+ in the early 1970's (women under 30 back in 2000's). Incomes have also risen significantly, to the point where a typical salary, even on the low end, is sufficient to live on without freelancing part-time.

The difference is stark, but the industry started off huge, there was plenty of inertia, and many punters were refusing to see the changes. For almost a decade, we've seen attrition with very few new faces, but many of the older providers hanging on. This was apparent everywhere, but most obvious in oilies like Tulip.

This situation was dire well before Covid, and the pandemic won't make it better. I just don't see where the large supply of girls would come from. Perhaps the economic crisis brewing in Laos (nearing a breakdown) would send a few working girls over the border, but that won't last long and is unlikely to have large effects down in Bangkok.

Meanwhile, there's no shortage of punters, so with the full reopening, it's only natural to expect prices to go up, and quality way down. At one point, I guess they'll stop coming..Hmm well at the moment I'm not having any problem finding available ladies at good prices.

Ggekko2009
07-05-22, 13:36
Ha. My last flight out was late 4 hrs. Asked my fav smooci girl to come out and share the waiting time with me in the terminal hotel and she did. I remember I had the taste of her pussy still on my lips as I went through security.

Will repeat. Great for sleeping through the flight home.Wise choice. I almost forgot about Smooci. Which hotel did you use?

I would rather spend the two extra precious hours with a girl than being stuck in traffic.

Lefeu
07-05-22, 14:48
I have been going to SEA every year since 2003, sometimes twice a year. This long standing trend was interrupted by Covid, but I was still lucky. I only missed 2021. I had last visited in January of 2020, well before they closed the borders on March 2020.

I did not know what to expect from this trip. From reading ISG, I was not expecting much, but I was pleasantly surprised. I managed to have a good time.

On this trip, my plan was to visit Singapore for 4 days, Bangkok 4 days, Pattaya for 5 days, then back to Singapore for 2 days before heading back home. Singapore was the least fun part of this trip, because Geylang was pretty much closed.

Back to Bangkok, my wingman and I stayed at the Novotel hotel on Soi Nana, close to Nana plaza. For my wingman, it was his first time in Bangkok, so I tried to show him as much as I can in the short time we had together. He was moving on to the PI one day earlier than me, and I was going to Pattaya.

We flew from Singapore and landed in Bangkok late afternoon on a Sunday. Going through immigration at the airport was a breeze, to my surprise. The same with the taxi ride from the airport to the hotel. I managed to drag my wingman through two must-do activities for me, when I am in Bangkok. First, it was my afternoon coffee break at the bakery at JW Marriott on Soi 2. On this trip, I also tried the bakery at Sofitel and I was disappointed. I did not like their pastry.

Then we went for a walk on Sukhumvit all the way to Asok and terminal 21. We had dinner at Cabbages and Condoms on Soi 12, a must for me on every trip to Bangkok. The restaurant was closed for renovation but was scheduled to reopen on the Monday we had planned our visit. I was so pleased that a Thai renovation project was completed on time.

After dinner, I had planned to take him to Thermae. I had mentioned it to him earlier and he was eager to take a look, but we never got to it. Too many things got in the way and so little time. Instead, after dinner we took a stroll on Sukhumvit, and got drenched in the rain. We went back to our hotel to dry out and change our clothing. Then it was time for Nana plaza.

I took him on a tour of the new plaza, still in awe how they can fit that much pussy in such a little space. As we were walking inside the plaza, we were accosted by hordes of girls from each club trying to convince us to come in. Well, it did not take long for my wingman to take the bait. He liked one of those girls and that was it. I forgot the name of the club but it was on the second floor. I followed him inside the club. There were only about 6 or 7 girls in total dancing away. I took a liking to 2 of them but the mamasan would have none of it. She first harassed me to buy her a drink, and then she wanted me to barfine her. And here I was hoping that she would leave me alone after buying her a drink. It did not take long for my wingman to get in a party mood, and start buying drinks for the girls left and right. At the end, he did not have enough cash and I ended up getting stuck helping with the bill. Luckily my wingman was ready to call it a night. As soon as he took off with his girl, I quickly followed them out, and landed at Rainbow 4.

This club was much more interesting. They had ton of girls dancing, hence it was easier to pick one. It did not take me long before I settled on a cutie. She was dancing on stage, and as soon as we crossed path, I knew she was the one I wanted. She seemed to feel the same way, as she flashed a big welcome smile. I smiled back and waived to her. She immediately left the stage and joined me. We spent an hour chatting over drinks, and she was ready for the barfine. She wanted 3 K baths for ST on top of 700 bahts for the barfine. I was in no mood to negotiate at that time and we soon left the bar. We ended up having a nice session. The following night, I was ready for more of the same.

I also wanted to check some of the massage places. I had some intel on Doki Doki, Maichan, and other places like it. We chose to pay a visit to Kokoro on that day. We took the BTS to Asok, and from there we walked to Soi 23, then we got lost. I had studied the map on their website but forgot some of the details. I was about to give up and try something else, buy my wingman insisted that we take a taxi. So, we flagged a tuk tuk. The driver started immediately trying to convince us that he can take us to a better place, but we declined. After many attempts, he gave up but raised his fare. By now, it was so hot and muggy, we had to either agree with his new fare or give up on our search. The increase was not too bad, so we agreed but he could not find the place and got lost as well. He had to call one of his buddy to get the exact address and direction. We finally made it.

Kokoro had about 5 girls available when we walked in. The mamasan called for a line up, and I picked Julia. My wingman picked another girl. The session started with a common shower. After the cleaning, the girl put the nuru gel all over my body, next came the slip'and'slide part. That was fun, and after a while she rinse me, dried myself and moved onto the bed. An FS session followed, with multiple positions. That was fun too and my wingman was pleased with his session.

At night, we were both ready to revisit Nana plaza. My wingman wanted to see the same girl, and so did I. So, we split and went on our own way. Here I got screwed. As soon as I stepped in Rainbow 4, the wolves were waiting. I finally got a chance to meet the sisters, friends and cousins of my girl. Also, I had heard of the double drink trick of Tequila and coke, but tonight I had the pleasure of experiencing it. My bill was pretty high that night, and my girl realized that I was not too pleased with that. Back in the room, she offered anal as an additional treat on the menu, but refused BBFS. I still had quite a bit of fun with her that night but had no plan to go back to Rainbow 4. This has happened to me before in past trips but I always found ways around it. In this case, I was there for a few nights only.

AggieDad1
07-05-22, 15:04
There's no longer an ample supply of working girls in Thailand. Demographics have shifted massively and permanently. Fertility rate has been under 2 children per woman since 1992 (affecting the number of women under 30 now in 2022), compared to the 5+ in the early 1970's (women under 30 back in 2000's). Incomes have also risen significantly, to the point where a typical salary, even on the low end, is sufficient to live on without freelancing part-time.

The difference is stark, but the industry started off huge, there was plenty of inertia, and many punters were refusing to see the changes. For almost a decade, we've seen attrition with very few new faces, but many of the older providers hanging on. This was apparent everywhere, but most obvious in oilies like Tulip.

This situation was dire well before Covid, and the pandemic won't make it better. I just don't see where the large supply of girls would come from. Perhaps the economic crisis brewing in Laos (nearing a breakdown) would send a few working girls over the border, but that won't last long and is unlikely to have large effects down in Bangkok.

Meanwhile, there's no shortage of punters, so with the full reopening, it's only natural to expect prices to go up, and quality way down. At one point, I guess they'll stop coming.

Plenty of places were mongering meccas for a while, but withered due to various factors, usually demographics and increasing wealth of the locals, coupled with some significant event. I hear 1988 Olympic Games killed mongering for foreigners in Seoul and SARS in 2003 killed foreigner bars in Hong Kong. Thailand is here now, unfavorable background trends plus a major event. Now, mongering will never disappear (it still exists in both Seoul in HK), but it might change to be smaller and mostly for locals, no longer worthwhile for most visitors, especially long-distance ones.Great post. I still find Thailand an enjoyable place to visit. But I am not one of those guys that is trying to do five women a day at 500 Baht each. I enjoy the hunt and am willing to take my time looking for the gems that are still available. I would also add mainland China to the list of places that were once great mongering locations, but sadly are no more.

Nyezhov
07-05-22, 15:27
There is no quality, per SE.There never has been.

Sort of like the ones around Hua Lamphong. Eww.

Turgid
07-05-22, 15:33
There's no longer an ample supply of working girls in Thailand. Demographics have shifted massively and permanently. Fertility rate has been under 2 children per woman since 1992 (affecting the number of women under 30 now in 2022), compared to the 5+ in the early 1970's (women under 30 back in 2000's). Incomes have also risen significantly, to the point where a typical salary, even on the low end, is sufficient to live on without freelancing part-time.......Because of covid many previously Thailand mongerers went to Colombia where working girls are plentiful and cheap, I think they are still there. They may not return to Thailand.

Goatscrot
07-05-22, 16:01
Plenty of places were mongering meccas for a while, but withered due to various factors, usually demographics and increasing wealth of the locals, coupled with some significant event. I hear 1988 Olympic Games killed mongering for foreigners in Seoul and SARS in 2003 killed foreigner bars in Hong Kong. Thailand is here now, unfavorable background trends plus a major event. Now, mongering will never disappear (it still exists in both Seoul in HK), but it might change to be smaller and mostly for locals, no longer worthwhile for most visitors, especially long-distance ones.Such a perfectly accurate analysis of what's going on currently. For those of us who have been mongering for over 20 years, the changes are drastic. And yes, they are permanent, and with the exception of a few the Thais would prefer that the outward foreigner sex scene just disappear. And the sex scene for the local punter is already way more discreet than it used to be. 20 years ago when it was very acceptable for a group of men to leave the office, go to a soapy, have a meal, have girls, and then head home. This has not been socially acceptable for quite some time and was one of the things that participated the slow decline of the soapies. Local men are now using online as it is much more discreet. While foreigners are somewhat welcome, it will never be the domain of the tourist or short-term visitor, because it requires a lot of time and effort, and you really do need to have at least some skills in Thai language.

As Croc stated, the 1988 Olympics killed the foreign sex scene in Seoul, in fact all the foreign sex bars were shuttered December 31st 1987 as I understand it. SARS was also used to shut much of the foreign sex scene in Hong Kong. Online and the walk-ups still are going to this day. Covered is perhaps the nail in the coffin for the outward for and sex scene in Thailand. Yes, it will always somewhat exist, but the numbers and quality are not going to be there. And in my humble opinion, it will be dominated by Asian, not Western men. So glad I got to experience the end of the golden era. It was an amazing amount of fun. That being said I'm still having a marvelous time with online.

YngMong
07-05-22, 21:36
Very excited to return to BKK in September.

I was last there in January 2022, just before the world turned into shit.

I have two days in BKK before heading else where for some non mongering fun but will return to Thailand after ba week. Will I need to pay for a visa twice or is there a multi entry visa that would make sense for me.

For my first two days was going to stay near Sukhumvit 2 or 4 Looking at the Ibis Suk 4 or Icon on Soi 2. Would be open to any suggestions in this area. I care about decent clean room bathroom etc and not about hotel amenities. Was thinking about splurging on the Hilton but would rather save that money for naughty fun.

I will hit up Doki Doki again as that was great maybe Tulip and was going to rely on Smooci as I found the go go and bars were fun but mostly miss them hit with the ladies. Any recommendations from Smooci would be greatly appreciated.

I will have about 4 days in BKK upon my return and was thinking of hitting up Pattaya as I have never been there before. Is there anything to do during the day like rent jet skis or interesting sites to visit I do like to mixy trips with things other than mongering.

Much appreciated and looking forward to providing some valuable reports to share.

Pahllus Maximus
07-06-22, 02:47
Interesting reading the last few posts, with a tinge of nostalgia. The late 1990's and up to 2016 were great, I loved the BJ bars, something so exciting knowing the smiling girls outside would fill their little mouths with cock and expertly have their tonsils massaged and anointed with tadpoles. I will miss the camaraderie of fellow men, smiling and chilled knowing their needs were easily met and of course the age old habit of guys bragging about their conquests. I like the small, delicate Asian feminine hands and sweet faces, especially when I had a wife for 48 hours that took it every hole and every position, yet smiled demurely at a restaurant. So much fun. I developed a taste for finding girls putting on an Oscar worthy teary performance at the airport departure gate as their "boyfriends" left back to USA or Europe, only to pick them and bang them silly. I don't know why, probably the thrill of knowing what oily mouthed liars they were and they knew that I knew, yet pretended like it never happened. And great, real, massage. Always with a happy end!

Where to from here? Is it really as bad in BKK as made out here? Is the Philippines any better? Thailand was great, not slum like, which is what I fear about the PI. Manila is apparently a shit hole, and there is really no credible reason to go there except as a sex tourist. I don't know much about other places in PI, but I like good quality, clean, uncrowded surf beaches and don't want to get robbed or see too much abject poverty and blight. What about Indonesia? I've mongered the world, Argentina, Dominican Republic, Mexico, China, Thailand, Europe, Brazil and looking for any "green shoots".

Ggekko2009
07-06-22, 03:11
Because of covid many previously Thailand mongerers went to Colombia where working girls are plentiful and cheap, I think they are still there. They may not return to Thailand.In my view, Thailand is overrated, and after experiencing Colombia, it is definitely a much better option for me, not to mention it is much closer to the US.

Ironically, the only memorable time that I had in Bangkok was when I was with an Uzbek girl and her friend pre-covid. I had never had much fun with the Thai girls there.

EihTooms
07-06-22, 03:22
Hmm well at the moment I'm not having any problem finding available ladies at good prices.I realize it can be different for an expat residing in Bangkok like me compared to someone here for only two weeks. But, same as you, I am having no problem finding available girls at good prices right now. I would go even further to say I am getting some of the youngest and cutest girls I have had in a while. And I certainly haven't gotten any younger over the years. LOL.

Now, I apparently missed the Golden Age of Thai Mongering that reportedly occurred 10-20 years ago because I was not mongering here during that time. But these past 10 years here, including during the closures and now during the struggling recovery, were damn well better for me than when I was vacationing in Thailand a few times per year in the early / mid 1990's.

One thing I have noticed about the admittedly changed demographics where Thais began to have fewer kids over the decades is it is a lot harder for 2 adult children to support mom, dad, grandma, spinster aunt and drunk uncle than for 5 adult children to do it. Not even if they are better educated and get a better job with higher wages today.

Therefore, you might not find as many desirable girls choosing a 7 night a week career as a gogo dancer but the number of mall workers, shop girls, office workers and university students interested and available for a bit of extra family support income for a discrete BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM every few days seems to be growing. Hence, the online option.

SiamMan
07-06-22, 04:08
Can you send me the word in Thai and I can help you.Thanks for the offer. Here is the word in Thai.

Sunlover2
07-06-22, 06:50
I will have about 4 days in BKK upon my return and was thinking of hitting up Pattaya as I have never been there before. Is there anything to do during the day like rent jet skis or interesting sites to visit I do like to mixy trips with things other than mongering.The Pattaya jet ski scam is so infamous hotels actually place warning cards in their rooms to alert guests:

https://www.jetskiadvice.com/thailand-jet-ski-scam/

SL.

Goferring
07-06-22, 08:02
... Is the Philippines any better? Thailand was great, not slum like, which is what I fear about the PI. Manila is apparently a shit hole, and there is really no credible reason to go there except as a sex tourist. I don't know much about other places in PI, but I like good quality, clean, uncrowded surf beaches and don't want to get robbed or see too much abject poverty and blight. What about Indonesia? ....PI has many great beach areas. Start researching the Visayas (Cebu) and Palawan as a start and go from there. Previously you would have to byo girl from Manila or Cebu City but online has changed all that and it's pretty rare not to be able to find someone locally with a little time on the usual websites.

Indonesia has a lot to offer but English drops off dramatically as you move away from Jakarta or Bali. It's one area where I would recommend finding Ms Right in Jakarta and offer her a few days holiday. 99% of girls with no job commitments will say yes and happily be your tour guide ++.

Broadly speaking: BKK, MNL and Jakarta have similar costs but provincial PI and Indo are much cheaper; PI is the easiest for an English only speaker even away from the cities; LOS and Indo win for food being a lot better than PI; PI then Indo then LOS for GFE; PI then daylight for BBFS options; looks are YMMV as PI and Indo are archipelagos and body types vary widely between different areas. Both MNL and Jakarta are chaotic with insane traffic but they have the widest selection of establishments and girls (many of whom are happy to accompany you for a few days) vs their provinces.

Enjoy. G.

Vankee2010
07-06-22, 18:02
Hello senior,

Need feedback and suggestion.

Booking Magistic hotel is good?

Planning to visit Doki Doki and feedback on that.

Which place is best to find a good partner for drink dinner and quality time. Please help as time is less.

Weekend is coming.

Thanks in advance.

Chinatown Guy
07-06-22, 18:41
He could take the train from the airport, which will only take an hour: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Suvarnabhumi+Airport+(BKK),+999+%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%88+1+Nong+Prue,+Bang+Phli+District,+Samut+Prakan+10540,+Thailand/Soi+Cowboy,+Khwaeng+Khlong+Toei+Nuea,+Khet+Watthana,+Krung+Thep+Maha+Nakhon+10110,+Thailand/@13.7048478,100.5826807,12.5z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x311d67771542274f:0x120d19554f157a07!2m2!1d100.7501124!2d13.6899991!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29ee33cfb207d:0x1380e8861e2db80a!2m2!1d100.5625191!2d13.7369881!3e3.

So, if he accounts for say 2. 5 hours of travel time, and 1. 5 hours for security, he would still have 2 hours. homewer, that assumes that he properly calculated the layover time (meaning that 23:00 is when boarding starts.) If the plane leaves at 23:00, then boarding time could be 30 minutes to an hour before that.He said that he is looking for something to help make his next flight more relaxing. Leaving the airport to travel 2. 5 hours by train to get laid, I would say, would be the "riskiest" sex one could have. I could not even enjoy the sex being so worried that I was about to miss my connecting flight. It is a good question though. Is there not a known massage parlour near the airport, that can be reached by a 10 minute taxi ride?

Lefeu
07-06-22, 18:47
In my view, Thailand is overrated, and after experiencing Colombia, it is definitely a much better option for me, not to mention it is much closer to the US.

Ironically, the only memorable time that I had in Bangkok was when I was with an Uzbek girl and her friend pre-covid. I had never had much fun with the Thai girls there.I have been coming to Thailand about once a year since 2003. I have also been mongering in Colombia since 2013, taking about 3 trips per year.

I personally prefer Thailand over Colombia. The sessions are less transactional, very few people speak English in Colombia, and one has to always be on alert for safety reasons. Plus no comparison about the food. Thai cuisine is far superior. I speak decent Spanish.

However, I just came back from a trip to Thailand. The trip was brutal, 17 hours from SFO to Singapore, plus another 2 hours to get to Bangkok.

Chinatown Guy
07-06-22, 19:05
The street action in China Town just off Yaowarat Road is famous. The quality is very low as is the price.Yes, 600 was the going rate (before covid) A bit dirty and seedy, but, then again, so am I. There always seems to be at least one "prego" SW there when I roam around.

Meorme
07-07-22, 00:44
In my view, Thailand is overrated, and after experiencing Colombia, it is definitely a much better option for me, not to mention it is much closer to the US.

Ironically, the only memorable time that I had in Bangkok was when I was with an Uzbek girl and her friend pre-covid. I had never had much fun with the Thai girls there.I've always loved Asian women. The big but thing never really attracted me much. And if there skin (I. E. Inside there thighs) isn't nice and smooth, ek.

Seeing a lovely little thing up on stage in Nana Plaza, where the strings on her bikini bottom pulled tight, that gap between her hip bones and stomach, where the string's not against her. And it's not a rarity there.

And I'm old enough that, when I first started visiting Thailand, Escobar was still bombing the shit out of everything. FARC (FARK?) and whoever else was kidnapping whoever. I know it's much more sorted now, but is still nowhere near the safety of Thailand.

If it was just cheap prices, there's Venezuela and Bangladesh.

Member #4753
07-07-22, 01:30
There's no longer an ample supply of working girls in Thailand. Demographics have shifted massively and permanently. Fertility rate has been under 2 children per woman since 1992 (affecting the number of women under 30 now in 2022), compared to the 5+ in the early 1970's (women under 30 back in 2000's). Incomes have also risen significantly, to the point where a typical salary, even on the low end, is sufficient to live on without freelancing part-time.

The difference is stark, but the industry started off huge, there was plenty of inertia, and many punters were refusing to see the changes. For almost a decade, we've seen attrition with very few new faces, but many of the older providers hanging on. This was apparent everywhere, but most obvious in oilies like Tulip.

This situation was dire well before Covid, and the pandemic won't make it better. I just don't see where the large supply of girls would come from. Perhaps the economic crisis brewing in Laos (nearing a breakdown) would send a few working girls over the border, but that won't last long and is unlikely to have large effects down in Bangkok.

Meanwhile, there's no shortage of punters, so with the full reopening, it's only natural to expect prices to go up, and quality way down. At one point, I guess they'll stop coming.

Plenty of places were mongering meccas for a while, but withered due to various factors, usually demographics and increasing wealth of the locals, coupled with some significant event. I hear 1988 Olympic Games killed mongering for foreigners in Seoul and SARS in 2003 killed foreigner bars in Hong Kong. Thailand is here now, unfavorable background trends plus a major event. Now, mongering will never disappear (it still exists in both Seoul in HK), but it might change to be smaller and mostly for locals, no longer worthwhile for most visitors, especially long-distance ones.This is such a great post. I would add that technology and new wealth in Asia is also changing the scene.

Even 20 years ago white farangs were basically the only game in town. Now there are Korea, Japanese, Chinese and even Indians flexing their economic muscle. I know of lots of girls that will only see asian guys, preferably Korean, Japanese or Chinese.

Adding to this the internet has opened up a whole other world. They join "how to date a farang" facebook groups, have been given the tour of the local village by mum pointing out all the houses that have been built by farang money in 1 way or another. When they hit 18 they are already well versed in all the little deceitful tricks that we all find so annoying.

Lefeu
07-07-22, 02:07
...I know of lots of girls that will only see asian guys, preferably Korean, Japanese or Chinese...I was in Singapore a few weeks ago, and my interest was strictly Viet girls. I wanted to try the online game and it took me a couple of days to get screened. To my surprise, I saw many online ads that specifically stated "no whites". This was in addition to no blacks, no Indians, etc.

ThaiGoodTimes
07-07-22, 06:29
I was there in Bangkok 2 weeks ago, and I think I saw both of them open. We are talking about the BJ bars in the alley off soi 8, right?Kasalong definitely open, but poor quality and reduced hours, girls, or like ladies are out front.

Lolitas seems to be open, but never anyone out front, you have to stick your head in and look.

ThaiGoodTimes
07-07-22, 06:36
I realize it can be different for an expat residing in Bangkok like me compared to someone here for only two weeks. But, same as you, I am having no problem finding available girls at good prices right now. I would go even further to say I am getting some of the youngest and cutest girls I have had in a while. And I certainly haven't gotten any younger over the years. LOL.

Now, I apparently missed the Golden Age of Thai Mongering that reportedly occurred 10-20 years ago because I was not mongering here during that time. But these past 10 years here, including during the closures and now during the struggling recovery, were damn well better for me than when I was vacationing in Thailand a few times per year in the early / mid 1990's.

One thing I have noticed about the admittedly changed demographics where Thais began to have fewer kids over the decades is it is a lot harder for 2 adult children to support mom, dad, grandma, spinster aunt and drunk uncle than for 5 adult children to do it. Not even if they are better educated and get a better job with higher wages today.

Therefore, you might not find as many desirable girls choosing a 7 night a week career as a gogo dancer but the number of mall workers, shop girls, office workers and university students interested and available for a bit of extra family support income for a discrete BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM every few days seems to be growing. Hence, the online option.Nice insight there.

Having just done a few visits to Hua Hin, and a stocktake of my own backyard around Rawai whcih showed lots of new talent recently arrived.

I am still of the opinion that a lot of country girl talent (both Isaan and Northern) skip Bangkok and follow family or friends connections to smaller places and bars.

Mdemde
07-07-22, 09:21
I used to live in Bkk but left in 2019 and went to live in the Philippines, I am in Bkk now on a 'visa run' and it's my first visit to Thailand in 3 years.

Arriving at Suvarnabhumi Airport last weekend on a flight from Manila, and before I went through Immigration, I was asked to provide my proof of vaccination record and my passport. They were only checking the name on the vax record to see if it matched the name on the passport, there was no validation check on the authenticity of the vax record, each inspection lasted no more than about 10 seconds. I don't actually have a genuine vax record so I was lucky that they didn't try and validate it, but my guess is with the numbers now coming through the airport they won't have the resources to validate every single vax record. You only need to provide proof of a negative test if you are unable to show your vax record.

Apart from the brief check mentioned above, there are no other restrictions for foreign tourists arriving in the country, all the other restrictions and requirements ie compulsory health insurance, the Travel Pass etc that were in place, were dropped on July 1.

When I was living in Bkk I used to visit the 3 main gogo bar areas about once a week. I had my favourite bars in each area and there was always a good choice of pretty girls available in those bars.

Last Saturday night I went to Patpong, the night market is no longer operating though there were still a few stalls open on Silom Road but very few people about. The majority of the gogo bars in Patpong were closed. Most of the area was in darkness and there were hardly any visitors about. I would be surprised it it ever recovers. The main Kings Castle bar (King 1) was open and had an acceptable number of girls up on the stage, but the numbers were way down on pre 2019 when the bar was always bursting with girls. On my visit last Saturday I'd say there were only about a fifth of the number. I thought the quality of girls was below average, IMO prior to 2019 the quality was always above average and the bar was always popular with the Japanese and other Asians, as well as with Westerners. There were few customers in the other bars.

On Sunday night I went to Nana Plaza, the majority of the gogo bars were open but visitor numbers were way down on what was the norm when I was last there in 2019.

One of my favourite bars at Nana Plaza was Billboard on the top floor, it was then a very popular bar always crammed full of girls, many of which I thought were very pretty, and you could always see quite a few really smoking-hot girls in the bar. I went in there last Sunday and was shocked at the extremely poor quality of the girls and the numbers were about half of what they were back in 2019.

Outside of Nana Plaza on Soi Nana, most of the bars were open, some were quite busy, some had few customers. I counted about 30 streetwalkers, and IMO they really were a bit on the rough side.

Then on Monday night I went to Soi Cowboy, as in Nana Plaza the majority of the gogo bars were open but the usual visitor numbers were way down. Many bars that always used to be busy with customers and had a good number of girls, though they were open, were dead.

Tilac bar looked very busy from the outside, almost all tables at the outside patio area were occupied with customers and had a few girls floating around, but inside there were only 3 girls up on the stage and about the same number of customers. It always used to be a very popular bar with dozens of dancers, and was always busy with a lot of customers.

I went into Crazy House bar, it always used to be stuffed full of mostly pretty girls as well as some really smoking-hot girls, but on my visit on Monday the number of girls was about less than half of normal, and the quality was a bit on the rough side. It always used to be stuffed full of customers as well, though on Monday night the bar was quite busy with customers rather than being stuffed full of them. The upstairs area was closed.

Baccara bar used to have a system whereby you had to pay for a drink BEFORE entry into the bar, but they have done away with that and you now enter the bar, find a seat then order a drink. Girl numbers were way down, and there were not too many customers.

Chimpo Chinn
07-07-22, 11:50
I been to the usual big names in Nana. Angeleithwitch, Spankys, Billboards, Blondies, Mandarin. All touted by Stick.

None comes close to the quality of Rainbow 5 talent.

Member #4753
07-07-22, 11:55
Last Saturday night I went to Patpong, the night market is no longer operating though there were still a few stalls open on Silom Road but very few people about. The majority of the gogo bars in Patpong were closed. Most of the area was in darkness and there were hardly any visitors about. I would be surprised it it ever recovers. The main Kings Castle bar (King 1) was open and had an acceptable number of girls up on the stage, but the numbers were way down on pre 2019 when the bar was always bursting with girls. On my visit last Saturday I'd say there were only about a fifth of the number. I thought the quality of girls was below average, IMO prior to 2019 the quality was always above average and the bar was always popular with the Japanese and other Asians, as well as with Westerners. There were few customers in the other bars.

One of my favourite bars at Nana Plaza was Billboard on the top floor, it was then a very popular bar always crammed full of girls, many of which I thought were very pretty, and you could always see quite a few really smoking-hot girls in the bar. I went in there last Sunday and was shocked at the extremely poor quality of the girls and the numbers were about half of what they were back in 2019.

I went to Kings Castle last weekend too. I think it was raining from memory and the customers were non existant. There were a couple of cute girls but nothing special. I always thought Kings Castle 1 had the hottest girls pre covid. But it is definitely an asian club and this white boy alwats felt a little unwelcome there.

I agree on your thoughts in regards to BillBoard. Precovid it was great. You could arrive at opening time (8 pm or 9 pm, cannot remember) and pick off a stunner amongst the 100+ girls. I have been in BKK since the pandemic started and have not seen any stunners in Billboard in 2 years. There are a few maybes but no stunners there. I hope they get their recruiting eye in again, as the quality is very thin right now.

Paolo99
07-07-22, 16:21
Arriving at Suvarnabhumi Airport last weekend on a flight from Manila, and before I went through Immigration, I was asked to provide my proof of vaccination record and my passport. They were only checking the name on the vax record to see if it matched the name on the passport, there was no validation check on the authenticity of the vax record, each inspection lasted no more than about 10 seconds. I don't actually have a genuine vax record so I was lucky that they didn't try and validate it, but my guess is with the numbers now coming through the airport they won't have the resources to validate every single vax record. You only need to provide proof of a negative test if you are unable to show your vax record.

Apart from the brief check mentioned above, there are no other restrictions for foreign tourists arriving in the country, all the other restrictions and requirements ie compulsory health insurance, the Travel Pass etc that were in place, were dropped on July 1.I recently checked the Thai embassy's site in my country and it appears that they don't require a vax certification anymore prior to giving a visa. They want either double vaxxed people (with proof) or a negative test (PCR or Antigen) 72 hours prior departure. And as you said, every other requirements have been dropped (and no quarantine also).


Tilac bar looked very busy from the outside, almost all tables at the outside patio area were occupied with customers and had a few girls floating around, but inside there were only 3 girls up on the stage and about the same number of customers. It always used to be a very popular bar with dozens of dancers, and was always busy with a lot of customers.That place was already dead long before the covid shitshow.

GrapeMan
07-07-22, 16:26
OK, this is a long shot but here I go.

A year or so ago I was browsing You Tube on Bangkok and some dude was referring to an area in Bangkok known as Bangkok's second RLD. I for the life of me can't remember the name of the area he was referring to, and the video has since been deleted. A Google search didn't reveal much at all.

Can any BKK expert out there take a guess to which area he might have been referring to? Thanks.Bangkok has roughly three "RLDs" if you can call them that. Soi Cowboy, the most famous one and Nana Plaza, are the most popular, Soi Cowboy was the old school one, but for many, Nana plaza overtook it, and post-covid, Soi Cowboy is much more shut down than Nana. Many people prefer Nana. The other one would be Patpong, but that much less visited and out of the way, and often little reason to bother making the trip when you can do the same or better at Nana.

ZenMinded1
07-07-22, 17:00
Bangkok has roughly a shitload of RLDs, if you know how to find them, so lets try make this forum a bit more then stuff any kid can find on first page of google.

If there's any Thai members here, they might point to less visited places, but thank you very much, there's multiple red light districts to visit for those who can't stomach the touristy bullshit. For me off top of my mind a bunch of massage places around Victory Monument come to mind, recently there was a streetwalker area near Chinatown, mentioned here, then there's likes of Ratchaprarop Soi 8 (Ratchaprarop Airport Link Station), Pracha Rat Bamphen Road (Huai Khwang MRT Station) and Soi Charoen Krung 42 (Saphan Taksin BTS Station), then an area close to where Poseidon was practically swarming with fiwfans girls, and so on. I'm still learning and it's a process.

This is a huge city, thais like to fuck and always have, it's just getting a lot harder finding places if your non-thai.


Bangkok has roughly three "RLDs" if you can call them that. Soi Cowboy, the most famous one and Nana Plaza, are the most popular, Soi Cowboy was the old school one, but for many, Nana plaza overtook it, and post-covid, Soi Cowboy is much more shut down than Nana. Many people prefer Nana. The other one would be Patpong, but that much less visited and out of the way, and often little reason to bother making the trip when you can do the same or better at Nana.

Explorer8939
07-07-22, 17:03
I realize it can be different for an expat residing in Bangkok like me compared to someone here for only two weeks. But, same as you, I am having no problem finding available girls at good prices right now. I would go even further to say I am getting some of the youngest and cutest girls I have had in a while. And I certainly haven't gotten any younger over the years. LOL.

Now, I apparently missed the Golden Age of Thai Mongering that reportedly occurred 10-20 years ago because I was not mongering here during that time. But these past 10 years here, including during the closures and now during the struggling recovery, were damn well better for me than when I was vacationing in Thailand a few times per year in the early / mid 1990's.

One thing I have noticed about the admittedly changed demographics where Thais began to have fewer kids over the decades is it is a lot harder for 2 adult children to support mom, dad, grandma, spinster aunt and drunk uncle than for 5 adult children to do it. Not even if they are better educated and get a better job with higher wages today.

Therefore, you might not find as many desirable girls choosing a 7 night a week career as a gogo dancer but the number of mall workers, shop girls, office workers and university students interested and available for a bit of extra family support income for a discrete BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM every few days seems to be growing. Hence, the online option.I can't speak for Bangkok, but there is a deluge of ladies from Isaan in Pattaya. Bars are popping up all the time now in the usual Farang hot spots, not to mention the newly emerging Thai bars that most of us never see. The big problem now is finding a room for newly arriving ladies to sleep in.

Loads more silicon enhanced ladies.

Posters will always claim that Pattaya was better in 2002 or 1982 or 1969 and there will be posts here in 20 years claiming that 2022 was the best time for ladies.

Stykler
07-07-22, 22:45
Bangkok has roughly three "RLDs" if you can call them that. Soi Cowboy, the most famous one and Nana Plaza, are the most popular, Soi Cowboy was the old school one, but for many, Nana plaza overtook it, and post-covid, Soi Cowboy is much more shut down than Nana. Many people prefer Nana. The other one would be Patpong, but that much less visited and out of the way, and often little reason to bother making the trip when you can do the same or better at Nana.Thanks for the response, but the area I (and the YouTube video) was referring to was not one of the well known ones of Nana, Cowboy or Patpong. I'm spewing because at the time I saw the video I knew I should have noted the area down, but by the time I remembered the video was removed. I'll keep trying. Thanks.

OKGuy1917
07-07-22, 23:31
How hard it is to find really good, sloppy, rough deepthroat in Bangkok?

Dg8787
07-08-22, 00:56
How hard it is to find really good, sloppy, rough deepthroat in Bangkok?Depends on your size. The shorter the easier!

Member #4753
07-08-22, 02:21
Thanks for the response, but the area I (and the YouTube video) was referring to was not one of the well known ones of Nana, Cowboy or Patpong. I'm spewing because at the time I saw the video I knew I should have noted the area down, but by the time I remembered the video was removed. I'll keep trying. Thanks.I would add the area around Huai Khwang is a forth red light district, although more spread out. It was where most of the mega soapies were and there are tons of smaller indepentant girls etc.

I believe the mega soapies were not allowed to reopen until July 01,2022. So I am not sure how many made it and will reopen. Apparently Poseidon, arguably the biggest, is gone for good.

ShinyCrazy
07-08-22, 03:15
I can't speak for Bangkok, but there is a deluge of ladies from Isaan in Pattaya. This is great news. Exactly what I've been hoping to hear. I'm planning a February trip and undecided between Phuket and Pattaya. Sounds like Pattaya is recovering. Good news!

Chimpo Chinn
07-08-22, 04:11
I would add the area around Huai Khwang is a forth red light district, although more spread out. It was where most of the mega soapies were and there are tons of smaller indepentant girls etc.

I believe the mega soapies were not allowed to reopen until July 01,2022. So I am not sure how many made it and will reopen. Apparently Poseidon, arguably the biggest, is gone for good.I've spent more money pre covid in this area than any other.

Been on decline since the Shot Heard Round Thailand. Think Myanmar.

Once vibrant many places turned into Condos, Hotels, etc.

Once the biggest operator Sold I guess the smaller operator's decided to get out too.

Stykler
07-08-22, 04:39
I would add the area around Huai Khwang is a forth red light district, {Snip}Bingo! Huai Khwang, that's it. I knew I would remember when / if I saw the location again.

Thanks so much MaxBkk, good karma to you.

Zman429
07-08-22, 06:43
How hard it is to find really good, sloppy, rough deepthroat in Bangkok?Go to Soi 7/1 one of the girls at the bar will oblige.

TooDirty
07-08-22, 09:11
Thanks for the response, but the area I (and the YouTube video) was referring to was not one of the well known ones of Nana, Cowboy or Patpong. I'm spewing because at the time I saw the video I knew I should have noted the area down, but by the time I remembered the video was removed. I'll keep trying. Thanks.Is this the area you're wondering about because I was wondering about it also. Saw this video and wondered where this street is and if it's worth checking out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMyNErFhe-o.

FilthyBeaver
07-08-22, 10:29
I was just told by a girl who worked at Poseidon before covid that it will reopen on the 15th. Hotel, restaurant & massage. Anyone care to do the legwork to confirm? MRT to Sutisan, Thanachart Bank exit, walk about 5 min.


I would add the area around Huai Khwang is a forth red light district, although more spread out. It was where most of the mega soapies were and there are tons of smaller indepentant girls etc.

I believe the mega soapies were not allowed to reopen until July 01,2022. So I am not sure how many made it and will reopen. Apparently Poseidon, arguably the biggest, is gone for good.

Nyezhov
07-08-22, 15:46
Go to Soi 7/1 one of the girls at the bar will oblige."Girls" LOL.

My motto always was if you find a cutie that has that unique talent, viz some like like Heather Deep, you move there and marry her, or at least rent her for the week / month.

On the other hand, I can remember teaching a Cambodia cutie. Sometimes even those first pathetic attempts can be hot.

Any Mixx reports gentleman? Is the Hyatt up and hopping again?

Crocodilexp
07-08-22, 16:20
Bangkok has roughly a shitload of RLDs... Ratchaprarop Soi 8 (Ratchaprarop Airport Link Station), Pracha Rat Bamphen Road (Huai Khwang MRT Station) and Soi Charoen Krung 42 (Saphan Taksin BTS Station), then an area close to where Poseidon was practically swarming with fiwfans girls, and so on.Great list. Useful, although I'm not sure I'd call a few massage parlors that might offer happy ending (as in Rachaprarop Soi 8) a "red light district".

As far as I know, there are 3 major Thai-oriented RLDs in addition to 3 Farang ones: the area south of Rachadamnoen Nok near Khok Wua interesection (some call it Sanam Luang by inertia, but it isn't), Wong Wien 22 (traffic circle near Yaowarat), and Huai Kwang. There was more activity in the past all over the city, but it decreased significantly over the years.

ZenMinded1
07-08-22, 16:59
You and I, sir, need a beer and several taxis. If in mood, lets!


Great list. Useful, although I'm not sure I'd call a few massage parlors that might offer happy ending (as in Rachaprarop Soi 8) a "red light district".

As far as I know, there are 3 major Thai-oriented RLDs in addition to 3 Farang ones: the area south of Rachadamnoen Nok near Khok Wua interesection (some call it Sanam Luang by inertia, but it isn't), Wong Wien 22 (traffic circle near Yaowarat), and Huai Kwang. There was more activity in the past all over the city, but it decreased significantly over the years.

YngMong
07-08-22, 18:08
The Pattaya jet ski scam is so infamous hotels actually place warning cards in their rooms to alert guests:

https://www.jetskiadvice.com/thailand-jet-ski-scam/

SL.Thanks for this, much appreciated.

AmPervert
07-08-22, 19:14
How hard it is to find really good, sloppy, rough deepthroat in Bangkok?I have a longer than average dick with a thick head. It is extremely, extremely rare for any woman to be able to deepthroat. There is a woman at Som's Haven (bar has a new name) that has no gag reflex. She can take it all. She says she can take a face fucking but I have never tried. I was satisfied with the amazing deepthroat. She has decent tits which she always bares without an extra tip. She wears oversize glasses but she is pretty. Taller than the rest if I remember correctly. She is there about 50% of the time a couple of years ago. Has long hair. I hope that helps.

Member #4753
07-08-22, 20:53
Is this the area you're wondering about because I was wondering about it also. Saw this video and wondered where this street is and if it's worth checking out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMyNErFhe-o.This is Khaosan Road. Very popular with backpackers and young thai girls seeking to dance and perhaps meet a young farang. However it is not a red light district by any means, just a normal clubbing type area. If you are over 40 you will be bored our of your mind.

JustLoggedInto
07-09-22, 04:15
Hello senior,

Need feedback and suggestion.

Booking Magistic hotel is good?

Planning to visit Doki Doki and feedback on that.

Which place is best to find a good partner for drink dinner and quality time. Please help as time is less.

Weekend is coming.

Thanks in advance.Majestic Suites, you can't beat the location. My only gripe with it is that the place is starting to get a bit rundown. Was a really nice place up until 2019. But I think that any hotel property damage, they just let it go. I one of the rooms had visible damage and it's been there ever since.

What I've been doing is using Majestic Suites as a shor time hotel in a way. Because it's about $20-$30 a night, give or take. But I don't sleep there. It's very noisy. I'd recommend bringing earplugs. Not only do you hear the clubs banging all night along with loud A / C but you can hear everything next door.

JustLoggedInto
07-09-22, 04:23
I been to the usual big names in Nana. Angeleithwitch, Spankys, Billboards, Blondies, Mandarin. All touted by Stick.

None comes close to the quality of Rainbow 5 talent.Agree. But it's all dependent on your tastes as well.

I agree Billboards has went down in quality by a lot from years past. I remember that place having very pretty girls, and the DJ and music was really great. I feel like whoever was recruiting before was a bit more calibrated. And I say this because the girls in Billboard now all don't look good imo but they all have a similar look to them. It's clear whoever is hiring them thinks that look is pretty. Large contrast from before. Fit, haggard looking, tattoos, heavy makeup. Whereas I feel before you had a much more larger variety. Rainbow 5 definitely had some cute girls. I barfined a few from there. Price is about 3 K + 800. I also like how the people (people serving drinks) in Rainbow 5 aren't pushy for drinks. There's also a place downstairs, to the right of Lollipop that had a massive massive stage of dancing girls there. Easily the largest of all the clubs there.

Mandarin imo I never liked the girls there even pre-covid. I was definitely a fan of Rainbow 4 oddly enough. Very pretty girls, some that have that Japanese girl look to them.

JustLoggedInto
07-09-22, 04:31
I can't speak for Bangkok, but there is a deluge of ladies from Isaan in Pattaya. Bars are popping up all the time now in the usual Farang hot spots, not to mention the newly emerging Thai bars that most of us never see. The big problem now is finding a room for newly arriving ladies to sleep in.

Loads more silicon enhanced ladies.

Posters will always claim that Pattaya was better in 2002 or 1982 or 1969 and there will be posts here in 20 years claiming that 2022 was the best time for ladies.Can confirm that Pattaya was popping. I was there from July 1 to July 4th. Baccara, Skyfall, Sapphire, Pin-up, Farenheight, Palace were all up and running.

However, this is the strange part. And I swear this is unusual. They're charging more than in Nana PLaza.

In Nana Plaza, the going rate was anywhere from 3 K + 700-1000 BF.

In Pattaya, the going rate was:

Baccara was 3000+1200 for one I took home.

Moon Gogo was 3000 +1500 for one I took home. A dime though.

Skyfall was 3000 + 1500.

To me, that's crazy. Because the rates in Pattaya Walking Street are. Higher than Nana Plaza right now. I stll went for it because those girls were dimes. But as mentioned Nana Plaza right now is about 3800 whether you go in Rainbow 5, Rainbow 4, Twisters, etc.

That said, I feel the girls were prettier in Pattaya, not so much because they are, but because all of WS is just sardine-packed with girls so it's far far easier to pick out a dime.

MasterRochi
07-09-22, 07:07
Hey,

I am going to Bangkok soon, my favorite type of girls are white slim Europeans like Russian or Ukrainians. Any recommended places I can visit some hot Russian Ukrainians, and what is the budget?

ShinyCrazy
07-09-22, 17:50
Hey,

I am going to Bangkok soon, my favorite type of girls are white slim Europeans like Russian or Ukrainians. Any recommended places I can visit some hot Russian Ukrainians, and what is the budget?The fate of Ukrainian women is a touchy subject, since they are fleeing a war zone, and I think everyone in the world has sympathy for them. They did nothing to deserve their fate. I think all of us on ISG are curious what effect the war will have on mongering worldwide. Since so many of them headed to Poland without the men, I would assume that Poland would be the place to find Ukrainian women who are doing sex work temporarily, probably outcall to your hotel and contacting them online would seem the obvious, since many of them are living with Polish families and can't bring their work home. The ones who can speak Polish or English are probably thriving. I can't picture them heading to Bangkok, but who knows. Not me.

Chimpo Chinn
07-10-22, 01:57
Been here a month. About 10 more days to go.

Nana Plaza is fine guys.

Butterflies Recommend! Wow. Highly OK.

NormalMan9
07-10-22, 14:18
I realize it can be different for an expat residing in Bangkok like me compared to someone here for only two weeks. But, same as you, I am having no problem finding available girls at good prices right now. I would go even further to say I am getting some of the youngest and cutest girls I have had in a while. And I certainly haven't gotten any younger over the years. LOL.

Now, I apparently missed the Golden Age of Thai Mongering that reportedly occurred 10-20 years ago because I was not mongering here during that time. But these past 10 years here, including during the closures and now during the struggling recovery, were damn well better for me than when I was vacationing in Thailand a few times per year in the early / mid 1990's.

One thing I have noticed about the admittedly changed demographics where Thais began to have fewer kids over the decades is it is a lot harder for 2 adult children to support mom, dad, grandma, spinster aunt and drunk uncle than for 5 adult children to do it. Not even if they are better educated and get a better job with higher wages today.

Therefore, you might not find as many desirable girls choosing a 7 night a week career as a gogo dancer but the number of mall workers, shop girls, office workers and university students interested and available for a bit of extra family support income for a discrete BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM every few days seems to be growing. Hence, the online option.I will go to Bangkok next month. Any tips to getting young and cute girls in there?

Is sideline agent become a better choice than RLD?

Member #4753
07-10-22, 18:38
There's also a place downstairs, to the right of Lollipop that had a massive massive stage of dancing girls there. Easily the largest of all the clubs there.
You are referring to Twister on the ground flow. It is becoming one of the largest clubs for sure and they are only using half the stages that they now have. If they can get both stages full it will be a monster.

I was in there on the weekend. I noticed some girls had numbers on them while some did not. After chatting to one of the girls it turns out that the "unnumbered" girls are paid about 500 baht to just dance and as soon as they are done they just hang in a dressing room. I assume they are agency girls just making up the numbers.

Havong said that I did notice one of the "unnumbered" get taken out. Got to love Bangkok as most things are negotiable.

GrapeMan
07-10-22, 21:39
I been to the usual big names in Nana. Angeleithwitch, Spankys, Billboards, Blondies, Mandarin. All touted by Stick.

None comes close to the quality of Rainbow 5 talent.Overall, yes, Rainbow 5 has always had a great talent selection. I've said this before though, that a good portion of the talen goes for the japanese-style "kawaii" type look as well, but overall, its still the best, and this place tends to cater more towards the japanese / chinese audience I beleive, but I've never had an issue in there, just noting that they tend to be more marketing towards that crow.

Billboards is probably next in line after Rainbow 5 for lookers. Angelwitch is the "fun" club, with girls that are below Rainbow 5 but always a few lookers. I believe Spanky's is mixed so I don't go but no matter, I've never had a good time there so I won't go anyways.

Barbecue
07-11-22, 04:24
I passed by La Belle the other day and saw a big sign out front announcing that it was now open. I checked around a bit and saw that Nancy's and Colonze were open as well. I took a taxi to Colonze and immediately thought I made a mistake. There were some men and one woman standing around outside just talking and loitering. My first impression was that it might not actually be open or that maybe a new operation had opened in the old Colonze space, so when they told me I had to take a COVID test on the spot I nearly walked. I'm glad I didn't. Once inside I could see it was clean and bright and recently remodeled. There were at least 50 girls, arranged by price / category. The lowest price is around 2500 and it, of course, goes up from there. The quality of girls was high there were some really cute girls with something for everyone.

I took an "M" category girl with a dazzling smile and who looked enthusiastic. In the room we spent a lot of time slipping around in the tub, before moving to the bed. There was no inflatable mattress.

Overall, I would go back for the quality of the girls. But the service, good as it was, wasn't as good as the better performers at Dokidoki.

Member #4753
07-11-22, 11:36
Great news that La Belle, Nancy's and Colonze are open again. I would imagine the need for an ATK will fall by the wayside 2 to 3 weeks after the big reopen. That has been the pattern with other big reopens during the year.

The one thing that I always find challenging at the soapies is that they tend to wear dresses so you cannot see what their bodies are like. In Bangkok almost all working girls have babies so the probability for baby damage is high under those dresses.

Bangkok has 3 public holidays this week starting from Wednesday, at least 2 of them are buddhist days so will be no alcohol. I would assume Nana and Soi Cowboy will be closed for 2 of these days?

Anyone know the exact days and if Nana Plaza etc will be closed this week?

Chengiz
07-11-22, 14:26
So finally in bkk, managed to sneak out to Doki Doki. Since I have been to soapies before, following is my review.

- I msged them on telegram and they responded. Once I confirmed the time, they shared some images. However, I only confirmed the time of visit. Its important to note that the mamasan turned away 2 dudes who just walked in. So I think it might be better to book beforehand.

- was shown the line up and chose Marin. Took her for an hour. 2700 baht.

- normal soapies, where she washed me down properly and then started nuru. Totally professional.

- value for money. Absolutely.

- 2 rounds possible in an hour.

- wir: maybe.

Mdemde
07-11-22, 17:38
One of the hairiest bushes I have ever seen!

John Clayton
07-11-22, 17:42
One of the hairiest bushes I have ever seen!Love it! (hate shaved pussies).

Pute Nut
07-11-22, 17:57
Love it! (hate shaved pussies).Ditto that. Great pics, yummy looking girl all around!

Member #4753
07-12-22, 00:38
One of the hairiest bushes I have ever seen!She is very cute, let us know ths story behind where you came accross her.

Papae Noel
07-12-22, 02:16
I don't even care if you creampied her. I just like seeing au natural. Not that shaved pussy is a bad thing!

NormalMan9
07-12-22, 03:17
How is sidelines girl in Bangkok? Tried any good agents?

EihTooms
07-12-22, 04:25
I will go to Bangkok next month. Any tips to getting young and cute girls in there?

Is sideline agent become a better choice than RLD?I am not the right person to ask about sideline / fiwfans site type options. I tried fiwfans a bit but based on everything I experienced, read and heard, at 69 years old I might not have enough lifetime left to devote to researching, booking and repeating cute young girls there until I stumble onto one willing to provide the BBFS+CIP I want. And I just don't have faith in the skills and ability of those cute young girls who mostly serve Thai / Asian customers to provide an acceptable finish to a BBBJ+CIM some of them claim on their profile to provide.

The vast majority of times I meet the cute young P4 P girls with shaved or closely trimmed pussy who will engage in DFK and willing to provide me with BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM in gogo bars or other online options (ThaiFriendly, Tinder).

I tell the girl in a bar what I want on those counts if she wants me to pay the barfine and take her, sometimes enlist the aid of a mamasan on exactly those services or state them as clearly as possible during an online chat.

Then I simply take my lumps and shrug off the ones who reject me and my requests, move on to the next ones and soon enough strike gold.

Most of the cute young girls who I meet for my pleasures online including the freebies have clicked interested / like for me first. That seems to produce much better results for me than when I click and pursue them first.

I hope that helps. As always, YMMV.

Marpa
07-12-22, 07:14
One of the hairiest bushes I have ever seen!It makes naked girls more attractive as without hair there is no focus and you find you'll looking at nothing!

Thanks for sharing.

FKKHeartEmoji
07-12-22, 07:42
Fellow mongers!

It's a rather detailed report. Just scroll on if too long (that's what she said).

Saturday:

Wood Bar: 800 baht BBBJ+DFK (slightly regrets this one, in a blowjob bar after all: p). Good service but few girls (around 7-8 PM). For Chrome bar B2 be etc the girls need to better looking in my opinion (same owner and girls).

Nana Plaza: 10-11 PM. Unfortunately feels like a tourist trap. Talent at Rainbow 5; several stunners. 800 bar fine. I was quoted 3 k for ST and 5 k for LT. She was a 9, but for a 3 weeks budget I went for a freelancer 1200 baht ST, petite and typical Thai playful girl. Picked up just outside nana plaza, definitely some good looking talent on the street. BBBJ+DATY+FS.

Sunday:

Wood Bar: 11.30 AM. 800 baht BBBJ + CIM. Really naughty girl with glasses. Tongue was everywhere it could reach🤓 remaining girls not good at all. Analisa and Bamboo closed, that's perhaps normal this early?

ThaiFriendly afternoon fun: Pictures not up to date, Gained a lot of weight, disappointing but hell I had her in my room. 1500 baht ST. BBBJ + DFK + FS + CIM.

Evening: plan was Therma-Soi Cowboy-Levels nightclub-Gogo perhaps. Strolled over to Therma, a few good looking girls but for me picking out a lady in that manner is a turn off. Don't know why. Bought a beer (expected to buy something before you scout the scene), spent 2-3 minutes before bringing the beer and went for a tuk tuk trip with a happy go lucky dude of a driver. Took me to Soapy 3 star (ridiculous 3 k quoting for really bad talent) and then 5 star "the best" 5-6 k quoting I would hardly pay 1.5 k for these girls. But I do like going on adventures and you may have luck! Taxi driver quoted 20 baht, gave him 200, we had a laugh for 15 minutes tuk tuking (sounds sexual haha). Went to Soi Cowboy and almost everything was so empty. Went in to Penny Black bar. Empty. Strolled further down the street and one of the gogo bars had great volume. Sorry, can't remember the place as the vodka drinks had kicked in. Went in, found the girl I wanted. Such a sweet petite girl with the best smile and great body. Paid the barfine (700 baht), 2.5 k for 2 hours. BBBJ + BBFS + CIP. 2 shots + more if I wanted. Shower first for 10 minutes BBFS. Continued in the bed and she had zero problem that I filmed (not face). Will definitely see her again, don't know her name or info, need to find her!

Monday: slept until 2 PM. Several coffees and writing this review. Date at 6 PM. Normal girls are rather easy to get dates with via ThaiFriendly. It's about the effort required if I would bother. Just woke up to finish this report: Met a beautiful 23 year old who was clear on that she only wanted a drink and see if we have chemistry. Indeed we had. We went for the bar 2 bar experience, and as she was fluent in English, fun and smart, we had a great time. GFE and what that includes (CIMWS was a surprise). Will definitely see her again. Damage: 1 LEO, 1 Chang, 1 Tiger. Great 3 days, if you can't enjoy Thailand as it is I can't help you. Pattaya next!

Side note: Considered the century match (football, or soccer for you US dudes) between Liverpool and United but disgusting how they maximize profit from the fans in these countries. Tickets from 5 k to 25 k. For a friendly match! Only 10 k+ tickets left hell no!

Downandup
07-12-22, 08:00
Bangkok has 3 public holidays this week starting from Wednesday, at least 2 of them are buddhist days so will be no alcohol. I would assume Nana and Soi Cowboy will be closed for 2 of these days?

Anyone know the exact days and if Nana Plaza etc will be closed this week?Bars will be closed the 13th & 14th nationally, I don't know about a third holiday.

Werqweq
07-12-22, 13:54
On my way to Bangkok as we speak, and wondering if anyone has an up to date list of the arab's go-go bars, or other bars to stay away from?

Thanks.

Expat American
07-12-22, 14:40
I was in Singapore a few weeks ago, and my interest was strictly Viet girls. I wanted to try the online game and it took me a couple of days to get screened. To my surprise, I saw many online ads that specifically stated "no whites". This was in addition to no blacks, no Indians, etc.Ah Singapore, the land of the racist pussy. You are probably referring to girls on SBF forum many of who specify racial exclusions. I personally feel the Viet girls are overpriced when there are hundreds of Thai girls on there who are far less discriminating and far less expensive.

Utente1391
07-12-22, 16:49
I am not the right person to ask about sideline / fiwfans site type options. I tried fiwfans a bit but based on everything I experienced, read and heard, at 69 years old I might not have enough lifetime left to devote to researching, booking and repeating cute young girls there until I stumble onto one willing to provide the BBFS+CIP I want. And I just don't have faith in the skills and ability of those cute young girls who mostly serve Thai / Asian customers to provide an acceptable finish to a BBBJ+CIM some of them claim on their profile to provide.

The vast majority of times I meet the cute young P4 P girls with shaved or closely trimmed pussy who will engage in DFK and willing to provide me with BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM in gogo bars or other online options (ThaiFriendly, Tinder).

I tell the girl in a bar what I want on those counts if she wants me to pay the barfine and take her, sometimes enlist the aid of a mamasan on exactly those services or state them as clearly as possible during an online chat.

Then I simply take my lumps and shrug off the ones who reject me and my requests, move on to the next ones and soon enough strike gold..What online sites do you use / have the most luck on, only TF and tinder or more?

Allover
07-12-22, 17:15
On my way to Bangkok as we speak, and wondering if anyone has an up to date list of the arab's go-go bars, or other bars to stay away from?

Thanks.Deja Vu, Kiss, Midnite, Rio, Spice Girls are owned by the "Arab". These are located on Soi Cowboy.

Mdemde
07-12-22, 17:55
She is very cute, let us know ths story behind where you came accross her.I used to live in Bkk but left 3 years ago to go and live in the Philippines. I'm in Bkk now and this is my first visit to Thailand in 3 years (I will be going back to the Philippines at the end of next week).

Whilst living in Bkk I was a regular for many years at one of the gogo bars in Patpong and got to know the mamasan. She moved bars a few times but always told me where she was moving to. Sometimes I would barfine and take a girl out of the bar, sometimes the mamasan would provide me with another girl.

When I was getting ready to leave Thailand back in July 2019 I told the mamasan that I was leaving for the Philippines and told her that I would be back every now and then for a vacation and said that it would be a least a year or two until I returned, but as it turned out, because of covid and the lockdowns, it was a full 3 years. I had no contact at all with her since I left in 2019.

So, I arrived back in Bkk at the beginning of this month, and on the first night I went down to Patpong and headed for the gogo bar where she used to work, wondering if she was still working there or maybe had moved to a new bar. But it was all boarded up! One of the many causalities of the covid lockdowns that have trashed economies and businesses all over the world.

I continued wandering around Patpong, and whilst walking past one of the bars that was open, a woman came running across to me shouting 'Mdemde'... 'Mdemde'. It was the mamasan! She put her arms around me and gave me a big smile and a big cuddle!

She hadn't seen me in 3 years and had no idea I was coming, but spotted me straight away well before I spotted her.

Anyway, I went in and had a beer and had a chat with her, and she told me she had a new girl for me, and arranged and brought the girl to meet me one afternoon last week and I took her to a s/t hotel. She was my first Thai in 3 years!

Member #4753
07-12-22, 18:24
I used to live in Bkk but left 3 years ago to go and live in the Philippines. I'm in Bkk now and this is my first visit to Thailand in 3 years (I will be going back to the Philippines at the end of next week).

Whilst living in Bkk I was a regular for many years at one of the gogo bars in Patpong and got to know the mamasan. She moved bars a few times but always told me where she was moving to. Sometimes I would barfine and take a girl out of the bar, sometimes the mamasan would provide me with another girl.

When I was getting ready to leave Thailand back in July 2019 I told the mamasan that I was leaving for the Philippines and told her that I would be back every now and then for a vacation and said that it would be a least a year or two until I returned, but as it turned out, because of covid and the lockdowns, it was a full 3 years. I had no contact at all with her since I left in 2019.

So, I arrived back in Bkk at the beginning of this month, and on the first night I went down to Patpong and headed for the gogo bar where she used to work, wondering if she was still working there or maybe had moved to a new bar. But it was all boarded up! One of the many causalities of the covid lockdowns that have trashed economies and businesses all over the world.

I continued wandering around Patpong, and whilst walking past one of the bars that was open, a woman came running across to me shouting 'Mdemde'... 'Mdemde'. It was the mamasan! She put her arms around me and gave me a big smile and a big cuddle!

She hadn't seen me in 3 years and had no idea I was coming, but spotted me straight away well before I spotted her.

Anyway, I went in and had a beer and had a chat with her, and she told me she had a new girl for me, and arranged and brought the girl to meet me one afternoon last week and I took her to a s/t hotel. She was my first Thai in 3 years!I love patpong too, very underated and seldom mentioned here.

Awesome story.

EihTooms
07-12-22, 19:30
What online sites do you use / have the most luck on, only TF and tinder or more?Somehow I wound up with a Lifetime paid subscription to Badoo for, as I recall, about 3,000 baht. Had it for more than two years and visit it daily. If it wasn't a Lifetime subscription I would have deleted the app 18 months ago. I have not hooked up with even one lady on that site. If they are remotely attractive, they live two hundred miles away. If they live nearby, they are too fat or too old. Waste of time but, hey, it's paid up for either my Lifetime, the app owner's Lifetime or my phone's Lifetime, whatever, so I check it almost every day anyway.

Otherwise, I maintain a paid subscription for the two I mentioned; ThaiFriendly and Tinder.

Which one have I had the best luck with? I have no idea. I have had success with both and have no intention of cancelling either account. Maybe I get more hook ups with TF. But all it takes is one sterling hook up with a girl on Tinder and right away Tinder is my favorite. There is just no way to gauge it.

Eric Swiss
07-13-22, 07:05
Went there recently and, contrary to some reports, it's hopping and full of spunk. The girls at Crazy House are a bit older and fatter than before (aren't we all?) but at least they are still naked. I did not check the inside of Tillac or Baccara, but from the outside it looked like business as usual.

One thing I like the most about BKK is the bars with live music and girls with day jobs who come here to f*ck you for 2000 Baht [thereby doubling their daily wage], usually with a couple of girlfriends for moral comfort (in the bar, not in the sack). I picked up one such named Jeannie at the first music bar in Soi Cowboy on the left as you enter from Asoke (name unkonwn? But you'll hear the guitar amplifiers from across the street). I spotted her friends again later at an upstairs bar on the right that was opened later than the official 2 am closing time. But in the meantime, Jeannie had provided great companionship in a full-service GFE sort of way!

So question for the pros here: Are there other bars with live music and office girls who have to get up early at 9 am the next day apart from the one at the entrance of Soi Cowboy? Kind of a moot point in the short-term, as today and tomorrow everything are shut down for official reasons, but with all the pent-up energy Friday promises to be wild, and this is the kind of scene that titillates our fancies...

XyzMan29
07-13-22, 08:20
So question for the pros here: Are there other bars with live music and office girls who have to get up early at 9 am the next day apart from the one at the entrance of Soi Cowboy? Kind of a moot point in the short-term, as today and tomorrow everything are shut down for official reasons, but with all the pent-up energy Friday promises to be wild, and this is the kind of scene that titillates our fancies...A few years ago, there were a couple of live music bars in Patpong that were perfect for this. I had my apartment in Silom Soi 4. When I was bored on any night of the week, I'd head down to the bar have a few drinks, chat with a beautiful Thai girl and take them back to my place. These weren't freelancers (they didn't want any money at all). They were just some locals looking to have a bit of fun.

Some of my best memories were when I lived there.

Member #4807
07-13-22, 09:05
Thai friendly is buzzing like never before, ladies are being so open and straightforward about services and freelancing. I am no premium member but soon I log in I get like 10 messages in 1 hour about masages boom boom and the whole menu. Its not like buying services directly from a bar face to face with the girl but somehow it can be fun too. This screenshot from last night.


Somehow I wound up with a Lifetime paid subscription to Badoo for, as I recall, about 3,000 baht. Had it for more than two years and visit it daily. If it wasn't a Lifetime subscription I would have deleted the app 18 months ago. I have not hooked up with even one lady on that site. If they are remotely attractive, they live two hundred miles away. If they live nearby, they are too fat or too old. Waste of time but, hey, it's paid up for either my Lifetime, the app owner's Lifetime or my phone's Lifetime, whatever, so I check it almost every day anyway.

Otherwise, I maintain a paid subscription for the two I mentioned; ThaiFriendly and Tinder.

Which one have I had the best luck with? I have no idea. I have had success with both and have no intention of cancelling either account. Maybe I get more hook ups with TF. But all it takes is one sterling hook up with a girl on Tinder and right away Tinder is my favorite. There is just no way to gauge it.

ZenMinded1
07-13-22, 13:59
Deja Vu, Kiss, Midnite, Rio, Spice Girls are owned by the "Arab". These are located on Soi Cowboy.Oh man would this have been useful last weekend. Ended up in Midnite and all seemed okay except a bit empty (in retrospect. DUH).

Long story short, my friend wanted to order one lady drink but we somehow ended up with 3 and a fat bill and when I went to pay with QR code got told it's an extra 5% for that. I lost it right then and there and politely but pushily got cops to show up (3 of them, all plain clothes). Kept my shit together even though half drunk and cops calmly agreed with me, and I got a refund of 2 lady drink value in cash back.

Suffice to say this list should be plastered everywhere so people don't end up fucked over (idea is to get fucked but Arab seems to have understood it wrongly. How the hell does he stay in business like this?

Member #4753
07-13-22, 14:51
Crazy House does have a good vibe. However 2 things there annoy the shit out of me.

1. most of the hot girls are there to suck down drinks only and don't bar fine.

2. The tequila and coke 2 lady drink scam which costs 400 THB. Virtually every girl will try this shit on you.

The first bar on the left is Country Road. The bar to the right upstairs that opens late is Penny Black.

Axel Heyst
07-13-22, 15:36
Crazy House does have a good vibe. However 2 things there annoy the shit out of me.

1. most of the hot girls are there to suck down drinks only and don't bar fine.

2. The tequila and coke 2 lady drink scam which costs 400 THB. Virtually every girl will try this shit on you.

The first bar on the left is Country Road. The bar to the right upstairs that opens late is Penny Black.When CH first opened for business it was the best Go Go in BKK and for a couple of years it remained so. It was also my favorite Go Go. Then attrition began to take its toll. The best looking girls began to leave and they were not replaced with girls of equal qualities.

Around the same time (2018 more or less) the tequila and coke thing came into existence. I would not call it a scam back then because my girls would politely ask for the coke. But I remember one time a new waitress just brought the two drinks (coke not ordered) which I immediately called her on and the coke was taken back. I guess it was due the fact that I was a well known regular and friends with one of the mamasans plus I always requested my favorite waitresses to wait on my table that I was never pushed with the 2 drink thingy even when it became commonplace right before covid struck. But I have not been to BKK since June 2019, so I imagine I will have to put my foot down and set them straight right way. I don't mind buying a girl a coke to wash down a tequila if it is a real tequila in her glass and not some watered down version and if I intend to barfine her. I drink coke lite myself after a tequila. Besides, new girls can always have a sip of my coke. 555. But when a waitress just brings a coke unasked to my table along with a lady drink, then it is rude to say the least and a scam more or less as you indicated. Be on the look out.

I really hate this BS. My beloved BKK has changed. I am not sure I am going to like the new BKK.

Eric Swiss
07-14-22, 09:30
A few years ago, there were a couple of live music bars in Patpong that were perfect for this. I had my apartment in Silom Soi 4. When I was bored on any night of the week, I'd head down to the bar have a few drinks, chat with a beautiful Thai girl and take them back to my place. These weren't freelancers (they didn't want any money at all). They were just some locals looking to have a bit of fun.

Some of my best memories were when I lived there.If you go by that, Climax in the basement of the Ambassador hotel on Soi 11 was freakin' awesome for many years until it closed down. Why doesn't Elon Musk invent a time machine instead of rocket ships? By the way, I never had the chance to chat with a beautiful Thai girl who didn't want any money at all.

Member #4753
07-14-22, 10:36
If you go by that, Climax in the basement of the Ambassador hotel on Soi 11 was freakin' awesome for many years until it closed down. Why doesn't Elon Musk invent a time machine instead of rocket ships? By the way, I never had the chance to chat with a beautiful Thai girl who didn't want any money at all.The most expensive sex you will ever have is if you marry one of them - 555.

CaliGuy33
07-14-22, 14:46
Thai friendly is buzzing like never before, ladies are being so open and straightforward about services and freelancing. I am no premium member but soon I log in I get like 10 messages in 1 hour about massages boom boom and the whole menu. Its not like buying services directly from a bar face to face with the girl but somehow it can be fun too. This screenshot from last night.Good to hear. What is the normal asking price?

GuyBrusg1957
07-14-22, 22:45
Great news that La Belle, Nancy's and Colonze are open again. I would imagine the need for an ATK will fall by the wayside 2 to 3 weeks after the big reopen. That has been the pattern with other big reopens during the year.

The one thing that I always find challenging at the soapies is that they tend to wear dresses so you cannot see what their bodies are like. In Bangkok almost all working girls have babies so the probability for baby damage is high under those dresses.

Bangkok has 3 public holidays this week starting from Wednesday, at least 2 of them are buddhist days so will be no alcohol. I would assume Nana and Soi Cowboy will be closed for 2 of these days?

Anyone know the exact days and if Nana Plaza etc will be closed this week?Good to hear! Does anyone know if Maria Entertainment is open too?

That's makes at least three higher end Soapy Massages available which is great news. How does Nancy's and Colonize compare to La Belle?

Bbsin26
07-15-22, 03:41
Heading back to Bangkok in a month. Anyone knows if soi 7 beer garden is a good place to pick up MILFs?

Vendelo
07-15-22, 04:27
Crazy House does have a good vibe. However 2 things there annoy the shit out of me.

1. most of the hot girls are there to suck down drinks only and don't bar fine.

2. The tequila and coke 2 lady drink scam which costs 400 THB. Virtually every girl will try this shit on you.

The first bar on the left is Country Road. The bar to the right upstairs that opens late is Penny Black.I've been 5 x to Thailand. Kindly explain what is the tequila and coke scam. Thanks!

Allover
07-15-22, 06:10
Good to hear! Does anyone know if Maria Entertainment is open too?

That's makes at least three higher end Soapy Massages available which is great news. How does Nancy's and Colonize compare to La Belle?Per google Maria, Biwa, Sai Fon, and Tarawadee are supposedly open.

DavidSean
07-15-22, 07:15
Has anyone tried bkkescortservice.com?

I am might travel to Bangkok in a couple of months and the girls that I see here are too good to be true. Not sure if it's fake.

Werqweq
07-15-22, 15:44
Nothing interesting to report, possibly except that they are open. Went by yesterday night and they had only two girls working. One thin 20 year old who had been working there for only a week or so, and who I suspect may not want to continue working much longer, and one late 20-ies, who I possibly saw when I was last here three years ago too. 1400 for 40 minutes of BJ.

20 yo tried to give good service, was sweet and friendly, but was rather unexperienced in this job and ate half a box of tissue afterwards in order to try and vomit up my sperm afterwards. Not sure if she worried she would get pregnant otherwise or something like that, but was amusing none the less.

Member #4753
07-15-22, 19:00
Has anyone tried bkkescortservice.com?

I am might travel to Bangkok in a couple of months and the girls that I see here are too good to be true. Not sure if it's fake.So much photoshop and filters on the photos I would assume what turns up at the door would be significantly different than the photos.

I personally see zero value in an escort service in BKK. Simply go to a massage place or Nana and select 1 of the 100's of girls available for 1/2 the price.

Member #4753
07-15-22, 19:04
I've been 5 x to Thailand. Kindly explain what is the tequila and coke scam. Thanks!A normal lady drink at a bar should cost THB 150 to 200 max.

At crazy house they ask for your permission for a lady drink and a Tequila and Coke arrives. You get charged for both the tequila and the coke as 2 seperate drinks. So the price is THB 350 for what you thought was 1 lady drink.

EihTooms
07-15-22, 19:30
Heading back to Bangkok in a month. Anyone knows if soi 7 beer garden is a good place to pick up MILFs?Being a punter who typically asks for an upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP, "boom boom no condom, ok mai", I have never gotten such an upfront agreement from even a remotely doable MILF in Soi 7 Beer Garden. Gave up even trying a couple of years before Covid after maybe a dozen attempts over the years and only went there occasionally to meet friends for dinner. Ladies still flag me over or plunk themselves down next to me but I haven't bothered going beyond a Hello, and back to my pork and potatoes in ages.

My success rate is much better with 20-something year old gogo dancers at, oh, 3-4 times the cost I suppose.

But if you are a no upfront negotiation "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" kind of punter who is fine with a covered FS a good percentage of the time you ought to have no problem getting the "hottest" MILF in the place to walk out with you within minutes. The pickins are going to be slim at the best of times to none most of the time, imo, though.

DavidSean
07-15-22, 19:58
So much photoshop and filters on the photos I would assume what turns up at the door would be significantly different than the photos.

I personally see zero value in an escort service in BKK. Simply go to a massage place or Nana and select 1 of the 100's of girls available for 1/2 the price.Agree, but most of them have videos too. If anyone has taken the service, please let me know.

TConor
07-16-22, 01:13
So much photoshop and filters on the photos I would assume what turns up at the door would be significantly different than the photos.

I personally see zero value in an escort service in BKK. Simply go to a massage place or Nana and select 1 of the 100's of girls available for 1/2 the price.But hard to photoshop the videos. You can actually see the difference though but better chance the video version is more like her looks.

Eric Swiss
07-16-22, 02:57
Yesterday I did the trifecta: Twisters, Butterflies and Rainbow 5 in Nana, then walked to Soi Cowboy to sober up. I looked at Country Road bar and Crazy House but both were too packed so I took a taxi to Patpong. For some reason, the driver dropped me off in front of a soi which I quickly found out was reserved for homos, so I scampered away quickly and took refuge at the Pink Panther. Very nice line-up, I must say. I picked up a girl with great tits who wasn't the slimmest on offer but still acceptable. Great personality, she did not speak one word of English and I not one word of Thai.

Anyway, I took her to the short-time hotel and got BBFS+CIP. Damage was 3000 for the girl, 800 barfine, plus one beer for me and one lady drink for her. Not cheap, but with DFK included it felt really good. WIR? Pink Panther probably, the girl probably not as there are so many other quality ones on offer.

Member #4753
07-16-22, 03:33
But hard to photoshop the videos. You can actually see the difference though but better chance the video version is more like her looks.My girlfriend, like most Thais is a social media addict. She will spend an hour editing and running her tiktok videos through various filter to the point I barely recognise that is her in the video.

I would assume most if not all bkk escort sites would pay a local that video editor a relatively small amount of money to substantially change the appearance of each lady in each video for the better.

ThaiGoodTimes
07-16-22, 08:02
Was in Bangkok last Thursday night, yes, the Buddha Day bar closed night.

Have to say I was highly highly disapponited.

The strip between Soi 11 and Soi 15 Thermae along sukhumvit was LB filled, probably 50-60% of them.

And then dropping away the too ugly to mentions, another 30%, that just left 10-20% that were attractive.

And I am sure half of those were post op LB's too.

It got to the point I was asking the girls if they were girls as they were so beautiful, that I was afraid they were LB's.

It is an approach I use as its not an insult to them.

What got me was that on a rainy cold night, their prices were so high.

I was getting hit 2000 through 3000 baht for one pop, short time, one hour including travel time.

Or of I went upstairs at Thermae another room cost of 400-500.

When I said I was staying in Soi 8, the ones around Thermae turned away, not interested.

Eventually found one, a very cute supposed 21 yo SYT, who turned out to be very inexperienced, around Soi 11, for 2000.

GuyBrusg1957
07-16-22, 08:15
Per google Maria, Biwa, Sai Fon, and Tarawadee are supposedly open.What is Biwa and Sai Fon?

Weird how Poseiden closed due to low demand but these survived.

Downandup
07-16-22, 09:23
I've been 5 x to Thailand. Kindly explain what is the tequila and coke scam. Thanks!THey ask for a lady drink and tequila is one lady drink and coke is a second so you pay double.

Vendelo
07-16-22, 13:16
A normal lady drink at a bar should cost THB 150 to 200 max.

At crazy house they ask for your permission for a lady drink and a Tequila and Coke arrives. You get charged for both the tequila and the coke as 2 seperate drinks. So the price is THB 350 for what you thought was 1 lady drink.Fucking bastards!

Though you have to respect the scam LOL.

Vendelo
07-16-22, 13:20
My girlfriend, like most Thais is a social media addict. She will spend an hour editing and running her tiktok videos through various filter to the point I barely recognise that is her in the video.

I would assume most if not all bkk escort sites would pay a local that video editor a relatively small amount of money to substantially change the appearance of each lady in each video for the better.I love Thailand and its girls but my biggest peave is how the filter their pics so when you meet them they're unrecognizable.

Second peeve is their addiction to narcissism on social media. Its a turn off for me. Their maturity comes across as 15-year olds.

Ulhorn72
07-16-22, 14:35
Heading back to Bangkok in a month. Anyone knows if soi 7 beer garden is a good place to pick up MILFs?Lots of sweet and not expensive milfs if you use Wechat in Bkk.

HorseTrader
07-16-22, 18:11
Fucking bastards!

Though you have to respect the scam LOL.Part of the scam is they talk to you in a very loud environment where you struggle to understand what they are saying. I respond by holding up 1 finger and say "one drink.”

Allover
07-16-22, 20:34
What is Biwa and Sai Fon?

Weird how Poseiden closed due to low demand but these survived.Biwa and Sai Fon are both soapy massage places on New Petchaburi Road. Petchaburi and Ratchadaphisek Roads are home to most of the soapies in Bangkok visited by Falangs.

GuyBrusg1957
07-17-22, 01:35
Biwa and Sai Fon are both soapy massage places on New Petchaburi Road. Petchaburi and Ratchadaphisek Roads are home to most of the soapies in Bangkok visited by Falangs.Falangs?

Looks we have these still open, is anyone able to describe the differences?

- La Belle.

- Colonize (maybe Colonize 2 is still open?)

- Biwa.

- Sai Fon.

- Maria Entertainment.

- Nancy.

- Black Label (I can't remember the exact name).

Chimpo Chinn
07-17-22, 01:36
Falangs?

Looks we have these still open, is anyone able to describe the differences?

- La Belle.

- Colonize (maybe Colonize 2 is still open?

- Biwa.

- Sai Fon.

- Maria Entertainment.

- Nancy.

- Black Label (I can't remember the exact name).All the same same.

Chimpo Chinn
07-17-22, 01:37
Lots of sweet and not expensive milfs if you use Wechat in Bkk.Translation old and unattractive.

EihTooms
07-17-22, 01:45
Part of the scam is they talk to you in a very loud environment where you struggle to understand what they are saying. I respond by holding up 1 finger and say "one drink.Yes, that is a good way to deal with it.

I don't think it is as much of a scam if they ask you, "Can I have a Tequila and Coke?" If you nod yes, well, you just agreed to buy her two LadyDrinks at once. But it is still a bit of a scam because they are hoping you will assume a Tequila and Coke is some kind of cocktail, like Rum and Coke, that is very popular with Thai girls. LOL. I'm not sure if complaining and demanding they take one drink off the bill is in order with that one. After all, she asked and you say Yes.

However, if she asks, "Buy me a drink?" and you say yes and she orders those two drinks speaking in Thai to the server or the noise level is so high nobody could be expected to hear the order or if those two drinks just show up by unspoken understanding and agreement between the girl and the server, then you have definitely been outright scammed and should demand one drink be taken off the bill.

Or, better yet, tell them to take all the untouched drinks off the bill, pay for what was fairly ordered and imbibed and walk out.

Member #4753
07-17-22, 12:17
Falangs?

Looks we have these still open, is anyone able to describe the differences?

- La Belle.

- Colonize (maybe Colonize 2 is still open?)

- Biwa.

- Sai Fon.

- Maria Entertainment.

- Nancy.

- Black Label (I can't remember the exact name).So I was bored on a Sunday afternoon in BKK so decided to do a Soapy run starting about 3 pm.

First stop La Belle on New Petchaburi Rd, Huai Khwang. As you walk in they herd you to a small office for compulsory ATK. There was about 5 guys in front of me waiting, so I excused myself and leave. The lady chases me towards the escalator that heads to the exit and says "ATK is free, you not pay". I just said it is a little too much hassle, sorry I come back in a few weeks when they stop testing. I assumed they had a limited staff so didn't want to ATK and waste 10 minutes only to walk out 1 minute after seeing a much reduced lineup.

Next stop is Biwa Cafe about 5 minutes in a taxi further along New Petchaburi Rd. The car park was packed with maybe 50 cars and once inside there was about 10 girls in evening dresses sitting in the fish bowl. Quality was very low rent as was the place. The only positive was no ATK.

Went across the road to Nancy which I believe has the same owner as Colonize. The car park was kind of empty and the feel of the place a little underwhelming so I again headed out when they insisted on an ATK for 100 THB.

I believe the soapies were allowed to open July 01. This would be the first time in just over 2 years. So I am assuming they will ATK for a week or two longer and then that will fall away. I will do a proper soapy run when they do away with the ATK and the places are up and running properly. At the moment I think they are just getting going so I assume they have limited staff and you don't want to waste 10 minutes on an ATK only to then walk out 1 minute after seeing very few women in the lineup.

Black label most likely refers to Black Caviar, a very high end place up on Ratchadaphisek Road. The same road that has 10 or 15 soapies more or less walking distance from each other in between MRT Huay Kwang and MRT Thailand Cultural Center.

Vendelo
07-17-22, 14:54
Being a punter who typically asks for an upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP, "boom boom no condom, ok mai", I have never gotten such an upfront agreement from even a remotely doable MILF in Soi 7 Beer Garden. Gave up even trying a couple of years before Covid after maybe a dozen attempts over the years and only went there occasionally to meet friends for dinner. Ladies still flag me over or plunk themselves down next to me but I haven't bothered going beyond a Hello, and back to my pork and potatoes in ages.

My success rate is much better with 20-something year old gogo dancers at, oh, 3-4 times the cost I suppose.
…Always enjoy your posts and as an older gent I need BBFS bc the condom kills the senses. I think you're saying BBFS is more common with the 20-somethings than the milfs. If that is true, why do you think 20-somethings are more agreeable to BBFS?

GuyBrusg1957
07-17-22, 19:43
So I was bored on a Sunday afternoon in BKK so decided to do a Soapy run starting about 3 pm.

First stop La Belle on New Petchaburi Rd, Huai Khwang. As you walk in they herd you to a small office for compulsory ATK. There was about 5 guys in front of me waiting, so I excused myself and leave. The lady chases me towards the escalator that heads to the exit and says "ATK is free, you not pay". I just said it is a little too much hassle, sorry I come back in a few weeks when they stop testing. I assumed they had a limited staff so didn't want to ATK and waste 10 minutes only to walk out 1 minute after seeing a much reduced lineup.

Next stop is Biwa Cafe about 5 minutes in a taxi further along New Petchaburi Rd. The car park was packed with maybe 50 cars and once inside there was about 10 girls in evening dresses sitting in the fish bowl. Quality was very low rent as was the place. The only positive was no ATK.

Went across the road to Nancy which I believe has the same owner as Colonize. The car park was kind of empty and the feel of the place a little underwhelming so I again headed out when they insisted on an ATK for 100 THB.

I believe the soapies were allowed to open July 01. This would be the first time in just over 2 years. So I am assuming they will ATK for a week or two longer and then that will fall away. I will do a proper soapy run when they do away with the ATK and the places are up and running properly. At the moment I think they are just getting going so I assume they have limited staff and you don't want to waste 10 minutes on an ATK only to then walk out 1 minute after seeing very few women in the lineup.

Black label most likely refers to Black Caviar, a very high end place up on Ratchadaphisek Road. The same road that has 10 or 15 soapies more or less walking distance from each other in between MRT Huay Kwang and MRT Thailand Cultural Center.What is ATK? And I forgot, yes it's Black Caviar. I haven't been but I've heard good things. I've heard good things about Daisy Dream too.

MarksusSex
07-17-22, 22:54
What is ATK? And I forgot, yes it's Black Caviar. I haven't been but I've heard good things. I've heard good things about Daisy Dream too.Antigen Test Kit (ATK).

CobraCommand
07-18-22, 00:57
Before arriving in Bangkok, had made arrangements with 2 girls whom I had shortlisted on TF.

So arrived in the morning at 6 ish at Suvarnabhumi airport, and had that lady cabby pick me up and drive me to the hotel. Pinged Girl 1 saying I am here, we had a discussion where she would be staying with me for a week. As I planned to split the second half with Girl 2.

Everything was wonderful and pleasing. So the weekend arrives and I told the girl that this would be the last day, She made the best effort to keep the day fully entertaining.

So she leaves in the morning, I messaged Girl 2, and she ditches saying some emergency, So I was sitting wondering what I would do, messages a Go go girl, I had met 2 months back, she was happy to hear I was visiting and said she would come and meet me by 1 pm. So 1 Pm I get a Line message with the photo of my hotel's elevator as the girl wanted me to come down and take her to the room as the elevators won't let her use it without the keycard.

So then get 3 hours and then she told me she had to leave as she had to get some stuff done and later get ready for her work. Made me promise that I would not say anything about her meeting me at her bar's Mamasan. Hahaha laughed it off and she left.

So it was 5 pm and a Sunday, I was just not feeling like stepping out so was wondering what I would do, was checking some outcall massage places on Google and one of them wanted a telegram ID to share profiles, so installed telegram but the girl's photos were not up to the mark. Then noticed an option on Telegram saying show nearby people or something. Clicked on it, and noticed a bunch of guys and about 4 girls. All looked pretty photoshopped. So messaged a Russian-looking woman, she responded, asked her cost, she said $100, hmmm told her ok B3000, want two CIM's as that is what I was in the mood for.

Did a video call just to be sure it is a girl. LOL you never know in Bangkok. Shared a hotel location, she was just an alley away from me. Called the hotel front desk, and made sure to tell them, that when my guest arrives, make sure to hold on to their ID before they leave, the receptionist understood what I meant and confirmed.

About 10 minutes later, knock on my door, I open it and see my hotel's Bell boy smiling and asking me if I was expecting any guests. I said yes and then two women walked into my room. I was a bit confused. As to what is going on. The older girl tells me they are a team and she will split the money between themselves and I can have my fun.

So Russian girl 1 gets into the shower while I was talking with the other girl. Surprisingly they spoke good English.

So then the Russian girl 1 comes and asked me to get on the bed, amazing BJ with a CIM finish. She probably swallowed some and asks me a funny question. "Why does your Cum taste so sweet?" . I was thinking what the fuck should I answer to that. Russian girl 2 (who seemed like an older sister) tells her, it's probably because he ate a lot of fruits.

Then we all get to the balcony, talk about them, their plans, them traveling to Vietnam soon etc etc.

Then time for round two, Russian girl 2 now gets ready and again repeat exp from the first round, amazing BJ, and cummed in her mouth.

Money paid with promises of meeting again soon.

So that was one Tick against my wishlist in Bangkok all done.

Then took a nap, woke up at around 7, wondering what I should do about this week as Girl 2 from TF had ditched. Though why not call back Girl number 1. So just messaged her on Line and she was very happy to asked to come back. Had to tell her that I am extending my holiday so I asked her to come back.

So then she arrives at around 10 PM, she is not a working girl but had a job and stays on the outskirts of the city. So all seems good, we have dinner and then I take a shower because I was still sort of feeling slightly exhausted. Then later the girl went in to shower while I waited for her in my bed.

She comes out in about 10 minutes, but no Thailand smiles to find, instead looking furious. Comes to me with her mobile phone showing google translate asking me "Who were the two girls in your room today?

I was like confused, I knew what she was asking but how she knew about them was in my mind. I just told her "oh I had called the in-room massage people so two girls turned up".

Then she got even more pissed and asked me if massage therapists will also brush their teeth in their client's room after giving a massage?

I could not think of anything smart to say then was told her, do not want drama. She said she will leave and I can enjoy myself with the two girls as much as I want. Told her ok. She then packed up and left, gave her the taxi fee and she left.

I was and am still confused about this as to what did Girl 1 think about the type of relationship we were in in the first place?

Anyways, just need to spend some time today and find someone else to fill the void!

HotStud251
07-18-22, 04:33
How she knew about 2 girls?


Before arriving in Bangkok, had made arrangements with 2 girls whom I had shortlisted on TF.

So arrived in the morning at 6 ish at Suvarnabhumi airport, and had that lady cabby pick me up and drive me to the hotel. Pinged Girl 1 saying I am here, we had a discussion where she would be staying with me for a week. As I planned to split the second half with Girl 2.

Everything was wonderful and pleasing. So the weekend arrives and I told the girl that this would be the last day, She made the best effort to keep the day fully entertaining.

So she leaves in the morning, I messaged Girl 2, and she ditches saying some emergency, So I was sitting wondering what I would do, messages a Go go girl, I had met 2 months back, she was happy to hear I was visiting and said she would come and meet me by 1 pm. So 1 Pm I get a Line message with the photo of my hotel's elevator as the girl wanted me to come down and take her to the room as the elevators won't let her use it without the keycard.

So then get 3 hours and then she told me she had to leave as she had to get some stuff done and later get ready for her work. Made me promise that I would not say anything about her meeting me at her bar's Mamasan. Hahaha laughed it off and she left.

So it was 5 pm and a Sunday, I was just not feeling like stepping out so was wondering what I would do, was checking some outcall massage places on Google and one of them wanted a telegram ID to share profiles, so installed telegram but the girl's photos were not up to the mark. Then noticed an option on Telegram saying show nearby people or something. Clicked on it, and noticed a bunch of guys and about 4 girls. All looked pretty photoshopped. So messaged a Russian-looking woman, she responded, asked her cost, she said $100, hmmm told her ok B3000, want two CIM's as that is what I was in the mood for.

Did a video call just to be sure it is a girl. LOL you never know in Bangkok. Shared a hotel location, she was just an alley away from me. Called the hotel front desk, and made sure to tell them, that when my guest arrives, make sure to hold on to their ID before they leave, the receptionist understood what I meant and confirmed.

About 10 minutes later, knock on my door, I open it and see my hotel's Bell boy smiling and asking me if I was expecting any guests. I said yes and then two women walked into my room. I was a bit confused. As to what is going on. The older girl tells me they are a team and she will split the money between themselves and I can have my fun.

So Russian girl 1 gets into the shower while I was talking with the other girl. Surprisingly they spoke good English.

So then the Russian girl 1 comes and asked me to get on the bed, amazing BJ with a CIM finish. She probably swallowed some and asks me a funny question. "Why does your Cum taste so sweet?" . I was thinking what the fuck should I answer to that. Russian girl 2 (who seemed like an older sister) tells her, it's probably because he ate a lot of fruits.

Then we all get to the balcony, talk about them, their plans, them traveling to Vietnam soon etc etc.

Then time for round two, Russian girl 2 now gets ready and again repeat exp from the first round, amazing BJ, and cummed in her mouth.

Money paid with promises of meeting again soon.

So that was one Tick against my wishlist in Bangkok all done.

Then took a nap, woke up at around 7, wondering what I should do about this week as Girl 2 from TF had ditched. Though why not call back Girl number 1. So just messaged her on Line and she was very happy to asked to come back. Had to tell her that I am extending my holiday so I asked her to come back.

So then she arrives at around 10 PM, she is not a working girl but had a job and stays on the outskirts of the city. So all seems good, we have dinner and then I take a shower because I was still sort of feeling slightly exhausted. Then later the girl went in to shower while I waited for her in my bed.

She comes out in about 10 minutes, but no Thailand smiles to find, instead looking furious. Comes to me with her mobile phone showing google translate asking me "Who were the two girls in your room today?

I was like confused, I knew what she was asking but how she knew about them was in my mind. I just told her "oh I had called the in-room massage people so two girls turned up".

Then she got even more pissed and asked me if massage therapists will also brush their teeth in their client's room after giving a massage?

I could not think of anything smart to say then was told her, do not want drama. She said she will leave and I can enjoy myself with the two girls as much as I want. Told her ok. She then packed up and left, gave her the taxi fee and she left.

I was and am still confused about this as to what did Girl 1 think about the type of relationship we were in in the first place?

Anyways, just need to spend some time today and find someone else to fill the void!

CobraCommand
07-18-22, 06:04
How she knew about 2 girls?I believe it was because of the two disposable toothbrushes in the bin which she saw and took a guess it was two people. And that they were girls and the only reason they used the brushes were for.

Crocodilexp
07-18-22, 07:41
What got me was that on a rainy cold night, their prices were so high.

I was getting hit 2000 through 3000 baht for one pop, short time, one hour including travel time.Don't ask, offer your price first. Girls off the street on Sukhumvit can be had for 1000, maybe 1500 if exceptional. Had one last week for 1000.

If you ask, they'll start off high, and then it's hard to bargain down. If she throws out the price first, you can't counter with less than 1000 or half of her price (whatever is higher), since it would be embarrassing and sound insulting. Moreover, she won't go down too much due to the loss of face.

However, if you offer 1000, she knows you know the going rate. May well take it right away, as if she bargains you might move on due to her poor attitude. If she decides to bargain, can't plausibly ask for over 2000, unless she wants you to move on.

EihTooms
07-18-22, 09:05
Always enjoy your posts and as an older gent I need BBFS bc the condom kills the senses. I think you're saying BBFS is more common with the 20-somethings than the milfs. If that is true, why do you think 20-somethings are more agreeable to BBFS?I can only say I get a much higher percentage of upfront agreements for BBFS (+CIP) among the 20-something gogo girls than older ladies almost anywhere.

An initial thought shared by others for why is the younger girls are less educated while older ladies know better. But that theory falls apart with my experience also being of all the regular ladies I meet on the dating sites, by far the quickest and easiest agreements for BBFSCIP have been among the most educated; the English fluent, school teachers, medical personnel, executives, etc.

They are far more likely to know what a vasectomy is, to understand the scant chances of someone like me having HIV, know what a negative test result means, are less hysterical about the realities of STDs, are more worldly, less susceptible to tales of terror about this or that boogie man out to get them, etc.

Therefore, I would look to other reasons for it.

Go-go girls (those who barfine) are typically younger due to the body exposure element. They are well into the business of P4P. They suit up or down for the job almost every day with no other career on the side.

Ladies in places like Beer Garden and Thermae, who can usually get away with being older, are often part timers, hobbyists in the P4P business. They often have another job. They sit or stand around and if somebody hands them an extra 2,000 - 2,500 baht during the week for doing little or nothing in a hotel room, fine. If not, no big deal. They have less incentive or need to agree to anything.

Older ladies' childhood might have been filled with tales of terror about every other person being riddled with HIV. That was of a prior generation of Thais.

Younger girls' real world experience is they likely don't know anyone who even knows anyone in the P4P business who tested positive for HIV.

Younger people always feel more invincible to downside risks. That's when they take up smoking, getting big ugly tattoos, weird body piercings, have babies out of wedlock, get shit-faced drunk and party until 5 am, encourage fast speed motorcycle action and, the least downside among them for Thai bargirls, agree upfront to have Real Sex / BBFSCIP with me I suppose.

As always, YMMV.

Erik
07-18-22, 10:59
Yesterday I did the trifecta: Twisters, Butterflies and Rainbow 5 in Nana, then walked to Soi Cowboy to sober up. I looked at Country Road bar and Crazy House but both were too packed so I took a taxi to Patpong. For some reason, the driver dropped me off in front of a soi which I quickly found out was reserved for homos, so I scampered away quickly and took refuge at the Pink Panther. Very nice line-up, I must say. I picked up a girl with great tits who wasn't the slimmest on offer but still acceptable. Great personality, she did not speak one word of English and I not one word of Thai.

Anyway, I took her to the short-time hotel and got BBFS+CIP. Damage was 3000 for the girl, 800 barfine, plus one beer for me and one lady drink for her. Not cheap, but with DFK included it felt really good. WIR? Pink Panther probably, the girl probably not as there are so many other quality ones on offer.3000 + 800 for short time?

I can't believe some guys agree to that.

PedroMorales
07-18-22, 11:07
But he is Swiss, so the price of a coffee (with no CIP).


3000 + 800 for short time?

I can't believe some guys agree to that.

Vendelo
07-18-22, 11:14
Gentlemen,

I've hobbied / punted / mongered in BKK and Phuket many times but not since 2019. I'm returning next month (and would like a refresher on what is ST and LT.

I recall back in 2019, ST was 1 hour and LT was 3-4 hours. Kindly inform me what is ST and LT now. Thanks in advance.

LookingLooking
07-18-22, 13:16
So then she arrives at around 10 PM, she is not a working girl but had a job and stays on the outskirts of the city. So all seems good, we have dinner and then I take a shower because I was still sort of feeling slightly exhausted. Then later the girl went in to shower while I waited for her in my bed.

She comes out in about 10 minutes, but no Thailand smiles to find, instead looking furious. Comes to me with her mobile phone showing google translate asking me "Who were the two girls in your room today?

I was like confused, I knew what she was asking but how she knew about them was in my mind. I just told her "oh I had called the in-room massage people so two girls turned up".

Then she got even more pissed and asked me if massage therapists will also brush their teeth in their client's room after giving a massage?

I could not think of anything smart to say then was told her, do not want drama. She said she will leave and I can enjoy myself with the two girls as much as I want. Told her ok. She then packed up and left, gave her the taxi fee and she left.
Were there 2 extra used toothbrushes in the bathroom?

Axel Heyst
07-18-22, 13:35
How she knew about 2 girls?He did not do a thorough cleanup after the girls left. HA HA. Same thing happened to me one time. After that oversight I learned my lesson and I from then on I make sure the bathroom and bedroom are clean of all female paraphernalia before I bring another one in. However, it should be noted that some girls do not care. It is a job to them and they don't care what you did before they arrive on the scene. But generally it is best to clean up the room.

Vendelo
07-18-22, 15:00
He did not do a thorough cleanup after the girls left. HA HA. Same thing happened to me one time. After that oversight I learned my lesson and I from then on I make sure the bathroom and bedroom are clean of all female paraphernalia before I bring another one in. However, it should be noted that some girls do not care. It is a job to them and they don't care what you did before they arrive on the scene. But generally it is best to clean up the room.Phuket 2019. Girl No. 1 came over every night. One day I had Girl No. 2 visit during the day and she used one of two shower caps provided by the hotel. I didn't notice but Girl No. 1 asked me about it.

HorseTrader
07-18-22, 17:20
I recall back in 2019, ST was 1 hour and LT was 3-4 hours. Kindly inform me what is ST and LT now. Thanks in advance.There are no formal definitions of ST or LT. I almost exclusively ask for ST and after reaching price agreement I will say something like "2 hours in the room." Very unusual for a girl to disagree. That statement is applicable for my experiences with beer bar girls, agogo girls, and street freelancers. Sometimes girls claim they need to do a post session check-in at the bar, but that might be BS. Massage shops are different as they have defined structures for time-price.

My LT experience is very limited, but they have all started in the evening and ended before or after breakfast. I only had 1 LT experience where the girl wanted to be with me for the afternoon, but that didn't happen because that was my day to move from Bangkok to Pattaya.

For many Thai girls, time is not important. She sees no problem keeping you waiting or standing you up. She will sometimes ditch your ass early if she is bored and has something better to do. The flip side is she might also stay extra long without extra charge. I've had many ST evening sessions where the girl wanted to spend the night in my nice hotel room rather than go back to her shit hole room.

CaliGuy33
07-18-22, 19:11
I've had many ST evening sessions where the girl wanted to spend the night in my nice hotel room rather than go back to her shit hole room.

This is very true, I notice they don't mind staying due to your room being nice and theirs being trash. Most of these girls don't have AC in their rooms, so just based on that they'll stick around as long as they can.

GrapeMan
07-18-22, 23:13
Gentlemen,

I've hobbied / punted / mongered in BKK and Phuket many times but not since 2019. I'm returning next month (and would like a refresher on what is ST and LT.

I recall back in 2019, ST was 1 hour and LT was 3-4 hours. Kindly inform me what is ST and LT now. Thanks in advance.Everything is flexible.

For ST, on the surface, it often means 1 shot or 1 hour. But if you ask for 2 hours, girls will generally just say OK, and that's all it takes, to get some extra time / shots in. If you say nothing, she may bolt after one shot or whatever and that's that. Which is to say, I mean usually just say you want to go longer and everything is fine, if you don't she may just jet after 1 shot... that said, if youre going to like the rooms inside nana, you might just get one go and thats that.

For LT, this can vary, In short, LT generally means you've got her locked down for the whole nigh- sometimes it means 3-4 hours+, but more often it means you've got her all night, generally (but not always) overnight, or it could mean, just overnight than she leaves, or food + drinks + room + overnight. Most girls won't want to stay too long the next day, maybe breakfast, maybe. They often will spend the night, but you can also tell them to leave whenever (expect that you may get a look if you kick them out in the middle of the night without cab fare / tip). Also, don't be afraid to bang the girl in the morning then tell her to go on her way, if she stays overnight, that's a sign you get to have fun in the morning with her YMMV. I guess there's a chance if you take a girl early enough in the night, she may want to try to get another client, which means LT may be cut short. The best thing is to just say what you want.

Chimpo Chinn
07-19-22, 01:47
Everything is flexible.

For ST, on the surface, it often means 1 shot or 1 hour. But if you ask for 2 hours, girls will generally just say OK, and that's all it takes, to get some extra time / shots in. If you say nothing, she may bolt after one shot or whatever and that's that. Which is to say, I mean usually just say you want to go longer and everything is fine, if you don't she may just jet after 1 shot... that said, if you're going to like the rooms inside nana, you might just get one go and that's that.

For LT, this can vary, In short, LT generally means you've got her locked down for the whole nigh- sometimes it means 3-4 hours+, but more often it means you've got her all night, generally (but not always) overnight, or it could mean, just overnight than she leaves, or food + drinks + room + overnight. Most girls won't want to stay too long the next day, maybe breakfast, maybe. They often will spend the night, but you can also tell them to leave whenever (expect that you may get a look if you kick them out in the middle of the night without cab fare / tip). Also, don't be afraid to bang the girl in the morning then tell her to go on her way, if she stays overnight, that's a sign you get to have fun in the morning with her YMMV. I guess there's a chance if you take a girl early enough in the night, she may want to try to get another client, which means LT may be cut short. The best thing is to just say what you want.Rainbow 5 last night. Very mediocre rougher looking girl was asked on stage by Cocktail Waitress if she would consider LT. She reply No Way Jose.

Chimpo Chinn
07-19-22, 01:52
3000 + 800 for short time?

I can't believe some guys agree to that.Guys were paying that Pre. COVID. Quality mattered then as it does today and will tomorrow.

Rainbow 5 has about 5 or 6 very youngish new Stars. Meaning they get pulled real fast. None have giant water balloons inserted into their Chests yet.

Youngish being 22 or so.

Vendelo
07-19-22, 03:04
Thanks grapeman and horsetrader for your replies.

LightMan1988
07-19-22, 07:12
Dear friends,

If money is no Object, which is better in BDSM club in Bangko, Is it Bar / Bar or Demonia? I am mostly a DOm and like to have sex slaves. Where are they more submissive?

Bbsin26
07-19-22, 13:01
Lots of sweet and not expensive milfs if you use Wechat in Bkk.Uh. I only had one experience using wechat in Thailand and I ended up with what I'm 99% sure was a ladyboy. Had to pay him / her to leave just so there wouldn't be a scene. Anyone have any good experiences with wechat?

JizzyB
07-19-22, 15:04
No text-book definition as such but totally depends upon the agreement between you and the ladies.

For me LT has been an overnight stay at my room and ladies have not left before 9-10 AM local time.

-JizzyB.


Gentlemen,

I've hobbied / punted / mongered in BKK and Phuket many times but not since 2019. I'm returning next month (and would like a refresher on what is ST and LT.

I recall back in 2019, ST was 1 hour and LT was 3-4 hours. Kindly inform me what is ST and LT now. Thanks in advance.

LightMan1988
07-19-22, 15:07
No text-book definition as such but totally depends upon the agreement between you and the ladies.

For me LT has been an overnight stay at my room and ladies have not left before 9-10 AM local time..+1 bro. This is the usual one. I never do LT. Too paranoid to sleep with a stranger in my room. What if she wakes up and takes my shit.

HorseTrader
07-19-22, 15:15
Uh. I only had one experience using wechat in Thailand and I ended up with what I'm 99% sure was a ladyboy. Had to pay him / her to leave just so there wouldn't be a scene. Anyone have any good experiences with wechat?Yes, but sometimes they ghost me when I insist on a pre-session video chat.

Chimpo Chinn
07-20-22, 02:08
Trip end Thoughts.

Narita wifi has to be the worst world wide. On return to USA Incheon has to be best world wide. One click you on very good and fast speeds.

I'm trying to rethink but I might go as far to say Rainbow 5 is better now than pre COVID. Their girls are pretty and personable. Not all but a few here and there. Which in my book is a lot. I've never found Baccara girls fun.

Patpong is a Disaster.

Icon Siam touted as Bangkok best shopping center was a disappointment,. No KFC or McDonald's.

Is it worth while to go now. Yes.

EihTooms
07-20-22, 04:34
Trip end Thoughts.

Narita wifi has to be the worst world wide. On return to USA Incheon has to be best world wide. One click you on very good and fast speeds.

I'm trying to rethink but I might go as far to say Rainbow 5 is better now than pre COVID. Their girls are pretty and personable. Not all but a few here and there. Which in my book is a lot. I've never found Baccara girls fun.

Patpong is a Disaster.

Icon Siam touted as Bangkok best shopping center was a disappointment,. No KFC or McDonald's.

Is it worth while to go now. Yes.Glad you had a good time. I know things are wildly spotty from one night to the next, hour to hour or bar to bar. But I honestly feel even during the low times it is or was quite possible to encounter a gem well worth the time and money. Often in an environment of very low numbers of paying customers. Not a bad thing at all, IMO.

I stopped in Rainbow 2 last night which, pre Covid, was often cited here as one of the go-to bars for higher quality (looks) girls. Well, not so much these days, same as other such bars right now. But there were still 2-3 lookers and I still had a good time meeting several girls there. But I already had a new girl from another bar with me and she made the whole night a treat anyway.

Member #4753
07-20-22, 06:07
Rainbow 5. I have been in the several times in the last few weeks.

Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder.

I think there is definitely a couple of cute girls that would appeal to Asian taste. But 90% of the girls there are your standard Nana Bar Girl. That is tatted up single mother with baby damage from Issan with very little education. Not that appealing in my opinion at very much tourist prices.

Miss MaryHinge
07-20-22, 09:59
Uh. I only had one experience using wechat in Thailand and I ended up with what I'm 99% sure was a ladyboy. Had to pay him / her to leave just so there wouldn't be a scene. Anyone have any good experiences with wechat?I had good results with wechat in LOS and Vietnam. Yes, some flakes but a bit of sifting can get results. Aside from Telegram and Skout are there any other apps with a 'nearby' function, which is used widely in Asia?


Trip end Thoughts.

Icon Siam touted as Bangkok best shopping center was a disappointment,. No KFC or McDonald's.

Is it worth while to go now. Yes.This has to be a big plus. If it isn't a joke, it's a bit of a sad observation on a country with one of the best cuisines in the world.

Zam007
07-20-22, 11:06
I passed by La Belle the other day and saw a big sign out front announcing that it was now open. I checked around a bit and saw that Nancy's and Colonze were open as well. I took a taxi to Colonze and immediately thought I made a mistake. There were some men and one woman standing around outside just talking and loitering. My first impression was that it might not actually be open or that maybe a new operation had opened in the old Colonze space, so when they told me I had to take a COVID test on the spot I nearly walked. I'm glad I didn't. Once inside I could see it was clean and bright and recently remodeled. There were at least 50 girls, arranged by price / category. The lowest price is around 2500 and it, of course, goes up from there. The quality of girls was high there were some really cute girls with something for everyone.

I took an "M" category girl with a dazzling smile and who looked enthusiastic. In the room we spent a lot of time slipping around in the tub, before moving to the bed. There was no inflatable mattress.

Overall, I would go back for the quality of the girls. But the service, good as it was, wasn't as good as the better performers at Dokidoki.How much was the damage?

Xones
07-20-22, 20:43
Hoping someone could advise, I really want to find some girls out on the street at night, similar to what you see at nana / asoke, but don't want the roulette game of having to guess who is a ladyboy and who isn't, I've been here 4 years and still aren't good enough. Are there any locations where the girls are all waiting outside at night, but the majority are actually GIRLS? I've heard of thermae before, but hoping there's somewhere outdoors. Tried online, and massage places before, but there's something about me that really wants to take a girl back home at night dressed in a sexy dress from the street.

CaliGuy33
07-21-22, 02:01
Hoping someone could advise, I really want to find some girls out on the street at night, similar to what you see at nana / asoke, but don't want the roulette game of having to guess who is a ladyboy and who isn't, I've been here 4 years and still aren't good enough. Are there any locations where the girls are all waiting outside at night, but the majority are actually GIRLS? I've heard of thermae before, but hoping there's somewhere outdoors. Tried online, and massage places before, but there's something about me that really wants to take a girl back home at night dressed in a sexy dress from the street.If you can't tell the difference between a girl and a LB in one place, you're not going to be able to tell the difference elsewhere. It's not difficult to identify LBs.