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Banana Boi
11-18-22, 18:32
I put 75,000 baht into Thai currency on Wise and didn't use it at all. I know I can charge on Visa to use that money but is there another way to get it out in Thailand? Haven't looked into this since they first introduced the Wise card but you can't make ATM withdrawals through Wise Visa, or can you?
Visited Wood bar 3 x recently. Still the best BJ bar in BKK, despite any downsides. Went by a few other BJ bars and girls at the other BJ bars were not good in comparison, even to the lower end of Wood Bar girls. The new price at 800 baht is a complete winner. 800 straight, no tip, no girls cost extra like in the past, get your BJs on for 800. For those seeing the Wood Bar website, I don't think they've updated the staff there in years. Most times had about 10-12 girls to choose form.
Short of it: All were good and all offered 2 pops + swallow. Doesn't really matter who you choose at Wood bar, just find one that looks ok to you and go for it.
First time, early evening before going out drinking. About 6 girls working. All acceptable, choose one that looked good with a bit of a thick body but not fat at all. Medium BJ but she did 2 pops, swallow and made it happen great. No complaints. Usually on 2 pops, they just keep going. She had me clean up after the first one, then sit back down and started again. This was fine of course, just unexpected.
Second time. Roughly 10-12 girls, saw the same girl I had before but decided to try another. Spoke decent English. Good BJ, 2 pops CIM swallow, no issue with 2 pops or any of it.
Third time. Like the second time, early evening, about a dozen girls, tried a new one, repeat of the same process. 2 pops CIM swallow, although this time I could hear another guy in a room a couple doors down which was pretty awkward.
How are the rates for Schwab when you use the ATM in TH. All ATM same rate? About same as if going to those booth to exchange.The rates are international intraday bank rate that tracks almost exactly to Xe. No percentage surcharge (like Chase) and all ATM fee's are refunded. I got all 5 ATM fee's refunded to me from my last Thailand trip at the end of the month during statement close. In reality it can save a person 2-5% across the board for cash transactions internationally.
The Schwab card is by far the best one out there for international or even domestic ATM withdrawals. It also allows you to get a second Amex Personal Platinum card and sign up bonus without worrying about the lifetime language.
Glad to help out and I think you might be surprised at the results if you searched on ATM ....
I use the Charles Schwab bank ATM card (US citizens only). Opens a brokerage account which you don't use, remains 0. Transfer money into the bank account, and withdraw. Think no fee bank account. Given they have NO ATM's themselves, you are free to use any atm, and any ATM fees are reimbursed at the end of the month. Have been using it for years, the world over. (Sometimes you do have to submit ATM slips with fees on them, but you will be reimbursed).
With CURRENCY exchanges, if changing currency, they (or at least they did) want PRISTINE bills, no ink, no marks, no tears regardless of how small, sometimes no folds or creases. Maybe that's changed, it's been a long time since I've exchanged currency and even longer since traveler's checks (Yes, I am THAT old). ATM's are just too convenient, though watch out for the local bank fees.
For keeping track of exchange rates, I use an android app Currency Converter Plus. Allows you to put a number of currencies on the main screen; I have 4, my home and 3 others. Easy to see rates and graphs. Dictates whether I laugh or cry. Provides a decent idea of what's going on and is very close to Wise rates.I have always found Xe to be a convenient app. With Schwab I almost always immediately take a picture of my ATM slip with my phone as a back up. Way too easy to lose those babies.
I have not been to MDE in several years and only two times in the last dozen years or so and not an expert. But I remember my first time quite well. It was def going to be a mongering trip and I was also traveling solo. Through these pages, I met this middle age fellow from NYC area and we arranged to meet on my arrival. When the date finally arrived, I met this guy and his quite unattractive Colombian GF at a cafe in MDE. He was not a handsome guy, bald, overweight and did not seem very worldly either. Nevertheless, he did give me the lowdown at the time on how to pursue chicks in MDE and we parted friends shortly after.
I did not contact him again and went my own way. I found a small hotel to stay near Parque Lleras owned by an American guy named Tom who was a former Florida cop. From what I heard, he has long since fled the scene and returned to US. Another American I know called Dave F. Owned a bar at the time in Parque Lleras called The Alamo. I met him there on of my first nights in MDE and also met this Colombian girl. She was with some friends and a cousin from Florida. We all ended up at her friends condo where her buddy told me go ahead and bang her if you want, which I promptly did at his condo. She ended up being a bit needy so threw back in the pond but did also monger a bit at one of the clubs. Think I was at Fase1 or something similar. Had one hottie from there before I left town.
However, a few weeks after I left, I read that the guy I met off ISG was found dead in a short term hotel room. Don't think they ever solved it like so many others since then.
I visited another time because I met a nice woman and her Mom who were traveling in Peru and invited me for a visit. Though I never got laid, I did enjoy my time with as as they took me to their relatives finca out by the airport. Overall it was a good time but as on my first trip it rained constantly and it was the cold and hard version so for me coming for the weather does not make sense.
But it seems to me that MDE is much too dangerous to even consider coming again. Going through all the elaborate means to hide your phone, vet the chicas, and generally keep your wits about you does not a good holiday make.
I'mfeeling a rise in drink prices soon at Rainbow 4-5. Barfine has been upped to pre Covity 1,000 baht.
Butterflies been charging 150 for a cola and gets a fraction of the Business the Rainbows get. Rainbow owners leaving way too much on the table.
Use the incremental money to get short time rooms open in Nana Plaza open Sirs. Hahaha.
Friday in Rainbow 4 was a Madhouse. If you want to see what Happy Bargirls look like go on a weekend. These girls are getting Barfined.
5 Rainbow does good business too.
Where the non prostitutional Hot Thai girls hang out.
Answer not in the Clubs where prostitution goes on. Duh. Example. Where guys here go.
Per Jett. Ex Thaiger you tube channel on air personality. Dude is Extremely Hansum, Intelligent and Well Spoken.
I trust him. Hahaha.
Visited Wood bar 3 x recently. Still the best BJ bar in BKK, despite any downsides. Went by a few other BJ bars and girls at the other BJ bars were not good in comparison, even to the lower end of Wood Bar girls. The new price at 800 baht is a complete winner. 800 straight, no tip, no girls cost extra like in the past, get your BJs on for 800. For those seeing the Wood Bar website, I don't think they've updated the staff there in years. Most times had about 10-12 girls to choose form.
Short of it: All were good and all offered 2 pops + swallow. Doesn't really matter who you choose at Wood bar, just find one that looks ok to you and go for it.
First time, early evening before going out drinking. About 6 girls working. All acceptable, choose one that looked good with a bit of a thick body but not fat at all. Medium BJ but she did 2 pops, swallow and made it happen great. No complaints. Usually on 2 pops, they just keep going. She had me clean up after the first one, then sit back down and started again. This was fine of course, just unexpected.
Second time. Roughly 10-12 girls, saw the same girl I had before but decided to try another. Spoke decent English. Good BJ, 2 pops CIM swallow, no issue with 2 pops or any of it.
Third time. Like the second time, early evening, about a dozen girls, tried a new one, repeat of the same process. 2 pops CIM swallow, although this time I could hear another guy in a room a couple doors down which was pretty awkward.For clarity, the 800 baht fee includes 2 pops? This is news to me. As far as I know it's 1 pop for the 800 baht.
And if you're getting 2 pops in one sitting, how long do you end up being in that little BJ room?
11Bravo:
Walk in, find Dunkin Donuts. I don't see what I want (and I AM beginning to detect a pattern here). Ask, and it seems that the chocolate Bavarian is no more. WTF? Now that IS a crushing blow. It's a chocolate donut with a cream filling, hard chocolate shell on top. It's even on their website. How hard is that to make? They certainly have powdered Bavarians for sale. Seems that their menu has been sharply curtailed.
Devastated, I take the opportunity of the proximity of the sky train to Patpong.Yeah, that was their best donut, the only reason I ever stopped to buy anything at Dunkin' Donuts. A major loss. Right up there with, I think, McDs recently discontinuing their dipped chocolate shell option for their ice cream cones. Can't seem to find one that still offers it.
Anyway, the next best option for that kind of donut is at Tim Horton's, the Canadian coffee and donut chain popping up all over Bangkok lately.
There is one in MBK right at the bts Skywalk entrance where Tokyu department store used to be. Also on Sukhumvit Soi 2 above the McDonald's.
Being a Canadian company they also have a maple iced version of that donut. Good donuts in general. Maybe the best standard donuts in Bangkok now. Except for the original glazed at Krispy Kreme, of course.
I use Wise a lot for TT transfers but don't have a card. What fees are you paying to use the ATM features? Online is quoting two free AUD $350 withdrawals per month then $1. 50 plus 1. 75%. Does that match what you are seeing in the real world?Those fees and restrictions are why I DON'T have a Wise card. I use Wise strictly for bank to bank transfers, whether to a receiving bank account or to a bank card (UnionBank China comes to mind). The whole reason is to find a method, like Schwab, that eliminates or reimburses fees. Those percentage fees get to be killers on long trips.
I put 75,000 baht into Thai currency on Wise and didn't use it at all. I know I can charge on Visa to use that money but is there another way to get it out in Thailand? Haven't looked into this since they first introduced the Wise card but you can't make ATM withdrawals through Wise Visa, or can you?I don't know, sorry. I have my own bank's visa travel credit card which has no foreign transaction fees.
In reality it can save a person 2-5% across the board for cash transactions internationally.Exactly. The whole point is to eliminate fees, and foreign transaction fees can add up.
I have always found Xe to be a convenient app. With Schwab I almost always immediately take a picture of my ATM slip with my phone as a back up. Way too easy to lose those babies.GREAT idea.
Previously, I would call in to their 800 number and ask them for a temporary increase in the daily limit (currently $1000 USD). I think I had it raised to $1500, maybe even $2000 pre-covid. THIS time, the request was denied, no explanation. Fine, their loss as they'll have more ATM fees to reimburse. The other appreciated thing is their customer services reps are in the US and are all native English speakers, so never a problem with accents. They do pay interest on money in the account, but so small as to be negligible.
Travel notices are now entered on-line; years past, it was call-in.
Newton York
11-19-22, 08:29
This info will be extremely useful when I visit in Jan so thank you NY. If you don't mind me asking, what was the average damage for a 90 min session? I'm sure the price varied with the girls and shops.Thanks StreamFlyer, I'm glad my reports*are still helping. Most of my sessions were 90 minutes, and since most of the girls I had were in the oilies I'd have to say around US 80 bucks. Some cost more like Venus, some cost less like Can Can, but averaged across the board, I'd say it was around 80 bucks before tip. Have a great trip in January! Man, wish I was back there. *.
Newton York
11-19-22, 08:36
Just must say how incredible your reports are. I visited BKK ages ago, and wasn't going back anytime soon, but now I kind of want to. Tons of useful intel; hell, a newbie can build a trip itinerary from these reports. Kudos!I really appreciate that Xpartan. From most of the responses here in the thread plus the messages I got, my reports got mostly positive*feedback, I'm glad. I wanted to give back to the community, through this and other forums I was able to glean a lot of info that helped make my trip this time around way*better than the last time. And just like you I was in Bangkok many years ago, and I never thought of going back, but I'm so glad I did this time. The lock downs*kinda sucked, but it made real what truly matters in life, and that's pussy. You should totally do it, go back to Bangkok again. The city is much changed from years before, easier to get around now, and better facilities and amenities than before but still pretty affordable. *.
Anyway, the next best option for that kind of donut is at Tim Horton's, the Canadian coffee and donut chain popping up all over Bangkok lately.
There is one in MBK right at the bts Skywalk entrance where Tokyu department store used to be. Also on Sukhumvit Soi 2 above the McDonald's.Thanks for the head's up, will be checking those out earlier rather than later. MBK kind of threw me, last time I was there, 3 years ago, I remembered the Tokyu department store. Now that space seems to be Donki, one of a number of Donki stores, another off of Soi Ekkamai, soi 12, and another seems to be going up on Silom near Patpong. Will have to check out, I'm a big fan of Daiso.
For clarity, the 800 baht fee includes 2 pops? This is news to me. As far as I know it's 1 pop for the 800 baht.
And if you're getting 2 pops in one sitting, how long do you end up being in that little BJ room?Its supposed to be like 30 minutes or something. If you want to keep going after pop 1, some girls are fine with it and just normal, if not just ask to and most will say ok, sure 2 is fine. YMMV, if you're a 65 year old fat aussie bloke, you're getting your ass kicked out of the room as soon as she can. Other people, different.
Even when it was Dr. BJs the same applied. Some girls just want you in and out fast, others are totally fine to just keep going for the whole time. I've been here plenty over the years, if you're decently good looking and not a fat slob or old, some girls are actually into being in there giving bjs to a decently looking guy, others aren't. Oddly, I'd actually say Wood bar is one of the "truer" places where you can more easily figure out if a girl is actually into giving the BJ or not. They're all sex workers, but some are on board with whats happening.
Its supposed to be like 30 minutes or something. If you want to keep going after pop 1, some girls are fine with it and just normal, if not just ask to and most will say ok, sure 2 is fine. YMMV, if you're a 65 year old fat aussie bloke, you're getting your ass kicked out of the room as soon as she can. Other people, different.
Even when it was Dr. BJs the same applied. Some girls just want you in and out fast, others are totally fine to just keep going for the whole time. I've been here plenty over the years, if you're decently good looking and not a fat slob or old, some girls are actually into being in there giving bjs to a decently looking guy, others aren't. Oddly, I'd actually say Wood bar is one of the "truer" places where you can more easily figure out if a girl is actually into giving the BJ or not. They're all sex workers, but some are on board with whats happening.30 minutes. That's what I thought. 2 pops in 30 minutes? That was me 30/40 years ago. Sigh!
Walk in, find Dunkin Donuts. I don't see what I want. Ask, and it seems that the chocolate Bavarian is no more. WTF? Now that IS a crushing blow. It's a chocolate donut with a cream filling, hard chocolate shell on top. It's even on their website. How hard is that to make? They certainly have powdered Bavarians for sale. Seems that their menu has been sharply curtailed.Tragedy! Time to call for the quick reaction force!
Its supposed to be like 30 minutes or something. If you want to keep going after pop 1, some girls are fine with it and just normal, if not just ask to and most will say ok, sure 2 is fine. YMMV, if you're a 65 year old fat aussie bloke, you're getting your ass kicked out of the room as soon as she can. Other people, different.
Even when it was Dr. BJs the same applied. Some girls just want you in and out fast, others are totally fine to just keep going for the whole time. I've been here plenty over the years, if you're decently good looking and not a fat slob or old, some girls are actually into being in there giving bjs to a decently looking guy, others aren't. Oddly, I'd actually say Wood bar is one of the "truer" places where you can more easily figure out if a girl is actually into giving the BJ or not. They're all sex workers, but some are on board with whats happening.Be careful avg age of member here is OLD. Prolly not all that Hansum either. Hahaha.
Hansum vs non Hansum. Does it really Matter to a Sex worker?
Any thoughts. Assumption not outlier customers,. Monkeypox lesions on 500 pound body, etc.
30 minutes. That's what I thought. 2 pops in 30 minutes? That was me 30/40 years ago. Sigh!I read some of the posts and visited there today. It is 30 minutes Max and normal people can cum only 1 time for 800 baht. There is another package for 1500, the duration is 1 hours and can make you cum 2 times with BJ or FS.
My dick is a lazy dude, he normally doesn't want to cum for normal BJs and the lady I chose tried really hard about 20-25 minutes to make me cum. She opened her bras and allowed me to squeeze her ass and rub her pussy and finally I released the load into her mouth. After spitting that off she talked happily and was smiling. I felt pity about her and tipped her 100 for the efforts. The place is clean and I will go back again.
I read some of the posts and visited there today. It is 30 minutes Max and normal people can cum only 1 time for 800 baht. There is another package for 1500, the duration is 1 hours and can make you cum 2 times with BJ or FS.I went there on my first night in Thailand, the girl made me cum pretty quickly by BBBJ.
She then said "give 1000 more and you can fuck me if you want".
I asked how long we can stay here? She said 30 minutes.
I said hey I don't know if I can get it up and finish again before the 30 minutes is finished.
She said "don't worry, I take care you", we did it and I could even take her ass if I wanted to, but I didn't need it at that time. We did the 2 shots but it was then 1800 Baht.
Stats on the 7 Africans I saw on Soi 4 last night.
Weight. 230 pounds.
Height. 5 Feet.
Body shape. Very Plumpish.
Face quality. Don't think scale goes that low.
Avg scores. So some might be better or you know.
Anyone know. Do they make money?
Well EVERY mall, shop, restaurant, etc. has their Christmas decorations up within the past couple of days, with Christmas carols playing as the muzak everywhere. Even Meet the World had Christmas lights up inside, and my fav was wearing her Christmas earrings this afternoon. I'm NO bah humbug type, but all this just seems a little incongruous with the environment.
Scored some Tim Horton donuts today; will see how they are tomorrow for breakfast.
Will also confirm the usefulness of having Line on your mobile. Able to reschedule several meetings with stars without any problems.
Be careful avg age of member here is OLD. Prolly not all that Hansum either. Hahaha.
Hansum vs non Hansum. Does it really Matter to a Sex worker?
Any thoughts. Assumption not outlier customers,. Monkeypox lesions on 500 pound body, etc.Don't worry, with a bit of luck, you'll be here someday because, methinks, the alternative is not all that much fun, though I'm in no rush to find out.
Member #4813
11-20-22, 17:51
I have always had a lot of luck with TF. Generally, I start by paying for a month of service. Then, I have contact a girl, and after one or two messages I ask her if she is interested in getting together. Occasionally, I have asked the girl if she is freelance. If the girl is interested, I ask her to send me her LineID or WhatsApp (not many have WhatsApp in Thailand) and when I contact her there, I quickly move onto practical questions such as price, level of service, etc.
Recently, I read here that some people come straight to the point on TF and ask the girl directly if she is a freelancer. On Date in Asia (DIA), this would get one expelled. Indeed, I have been expelled several times from DIA, as well as Tinder (which I cannot get back on without getting a new phone number). It occurred to me that if they really do not expel people from the service, I could cut through a bunch of messages and simply have a profile that says "Looking for hookups" and maybe state "FL / ONS welcome."
Has anyone here ever been expelled from TF for their profiles or directly negotiating a sexual service? If so, were you a paying member? Does anyone know the true boundaries of their moderators?
Stats on the 7 Africans I saw on Soi 4 last night.
Weight. 230 pounds.
Height. 5 Feet.
Body shape. Very Plumpish.
Face quality. Don't think scale goes that low.
Avg scores. So some might be better or you know.
Anyone know. Do they make money?African dudes, Arab dudes and the Western guys who like that. Mostly the first two.
I have always had a lot of luck with TF. Generally, I start by paying for a month of service. Then, I have contact a girl, and after one or two messages I ask her if she is interested in getting together. Occasionally, I have asked the girl if she is freelance. If the girl is interested, I ask her to send me her LineID or WhatsApp (not many have WhatsApp in Thailand) and when I contact her there, I quickly move onto practical questions such as price, level of service, etc.
Recently, I read here that some people come straight to the point on TF and ask the girl directly if she is a freelancer. On Date in Asia (DIA), this would get one expelled. Indeed, I have been expelled several times from DIA, as well as Tinder (which I cannot get back on without getting a new phone number). It occurred to me that if they really do not expel people from the service, I could cut through a bunch of messages and simply have a profile that says "Looking for hookups" and maybe state "FL / ONS welcome."
Has anyone here ever been expelled from TF for their profiles or directly negotiating a sexual service? If so, were you a paying member? Does anyone know the true boundaries of their moderators?Doesn't seem like TF is moderated. But I also don't think you need to headline your profile with seeking FLers. Just message them and ask if they are FL. Seems like at this point 90% of the girls on TF aree FL anyways.
Its supposed to be like 30 minutes or something. If you want to keep going after pop 1, some girls are fine with it and just normal, if not just ask to and most will say ok, sure 2 is fine. YMMV, if you're a 65 year old fat aussie bloke, you're getting your ass kicked out of the room as soon as she can. Other people, different.
Even when it was Dr. BJs the same applied. Some girls just want you in and out fast, others are totally fine to just keep going for the whole time. I've been here plenty over the years, if you're decently good looking and not a fat slob or old, some girls are actually into being in there giving bjs to a decently looking guy, others aren't. Oddly, I'd actually say Wood bar is one of the "truer" places where you can more easily figure out if a girl is actually into giving the BJ or not. They're all sex workers, but some are on board with whats happening.Man I wish I knew this whilst there. It was already such a good deal as is, a BJ for $22, but 2 pops for the same price is incredible value.
Thanks for the feedback.
Be careful avg age of member here is OLD. Prolly not all that Hansum either. Hahaha.
Hansum vs non Hansum. Does it really Matter to a Sex worker?
Any thoughts. Assumption not outlier customers,. Monkeypox lesions on 500 pound body, etc.They're only human. As a guy smashing a girl that's young, beautiful and slim is a completely differenr experience than smashing an older, fat, unattractive woman. So, it stands to reason it'the be similar for women. Ultimately, money talks for them but I'm sure they enjoy a good looking guy's junk in their mouth over an ugly fat guy's. LOL. But don't worry, most mongers are mongers because they're average to below average in looks.
Be careful avg age of member here is OLD. Prolly not all that Hansum either. Hahaha.
Hansum vs non Hansum. Does it really Matter to a Sex worker?
Any thoughts. Assumption not outlier customers,. Monkeypox lesions on 500 pound body, etc.No one wants to hear this, but we all know its true. Its not just thailand, its sex work. These girls are a lot less interested in an obese 70 year old asshole desperate for action, rather than a younger person just decent looking who takes care of themselves and doesn't stink.
People are going to have different experiences depending on their looks and desperation. Doesn't' matter if its a strip club in some random American city, a German FKK, or Thai MP. When any girl that works at any of these places see an old fat guy walk in, they just have to power through it and hope he's a big enough dolt or desperate enough to give her extra money, not that they don't think the same thing from everyone else, but they'd rather be with someone who is decent than not, and it goes a long way, a lot longer than people want to admit it does, and the girls you pay won't tell you this, but if you've ever known sex workers outside of the industry and not a patron of these, they'll tell you the same.
Stats on the 7 Africans I saw on Soi 4 last night.
Weight. 230 pounds.
Height. 5 Feet.
Body shape. Very Plumpish.
Face quality. Don't think scale goes that low.
Avg scores. So some might be better or you know.
Anyone know. Do they make money?African sex workers abroad have a very negative reputation, for a variety of reasons. It may be valid or not, but that's the general thoughts around their whole situation. Are they getting work? Yeah probably, there's an audience for it, but I don't believe they are really "welcome" with the local girls and have to do their own thing in their own area.
Be careful avg age of member here is OLD. Prolly not all that Hansum either. Hahaha.
Hansum vs non Hansum. Does it really Matter to a Sex worker?
Any thoughts. Assumption not outlier customers,. Monkeypox lesions on 500 pound body, etc.Some sex workers assume a young and / or handsome man has had sex with many ladies and that many of those ladies agreed to bareback sex with him. Consequently, they might dig in and refuse to go bareback with him for fear of catching an STD. By contrast, they might be fine with going bareback with a fat, ugly old man they assume has not gotten laid in his home country for years and isn't getting bareback sex here either. She might not worry too much about being the "exception" for that dude if the price is right.
Extra advantage to the fat, ugly old man for getting no hassle BBFS+CIP if she thinks he just arrived in town. She might play on the premise that he not only hasn't gotten laid for years back home but that he also hasn't gotten laid on this trip yet either. Then, she calculates, if she rocks his world in bed like he never dreamed would happen to him, this "loser in sex" will want to repeat with her throughout his entire stay and not even try to session with anyone else.
Of course, the Thai hooker has got it all wrong. Most fat, ugly old punters I know are getting more no hassle bareback sex with more different women here than the hookers can imagine. And for the reason cited above. Each hooker calculates (wrongly) that she is the "exception" for him getting BBFS+CIP. LOL.
Yes, the irony is the hookers who think they are playing it safer by going bareback with only fat, ugly old men are in all likelihood actually exposing themselves to more multiple partner bareback STD risk than they would if they did it with young and / or handsome men, most of whom get more resistance to bareback sex for the reason stated above.
Ditto for cum swallowing at the end of a BBBJ+CIM.
African sex workers abroad have a very negative reputation, for a variety of reasons. It may be valid or not, but that's the general thoughts around their whole situation. Are they getting work? Yeah probably, there's an audience for it, but I don't believe they are really "welcome" with the local girls and have to do their own thing in their own area.Well I for one have the hots for brown sugar so African freelancers are right up my soi. I'm going to BKK in January and I'm constantly looking at "Walking on Soi 4-11" videos on Youtube to gauge how many Africans there currently is in BKK.
One might ask: "If you're so into Africans, why do you go to BKK?" Well there are a lot of reasons. It's a cheap city. Easy to live as a king. Great food. Great balance between high tech and low prices. Massage parlors. BJ bars. Familiarity with the city. Knowing the scene. And most importantly: Even though I'm a sucker for Africans, I do love Thai women as well. The best ones are petite, happy, smiling, funny, cute, with incredible soft skin. But sometimes you just want a black mega ass to sit on your face!
Yeah, that was their best donut, the only reason I ever stopped to buy anything at Dunkin' Donuts. A major loss. Right up there with, I think, McDs recently discontinuing their dipped chocolate shell option for their ice cream cones. Can't seem to find one that still offers it.
Anyway, the next best option for that kind of donut is at Tim Horton's, the Canadian coffee and donut chain popping up all over Bangkok lately.
There is one in MBK right at the bts Skywalk entrance where Tokyu department store used to be. Also on Sukhumvit Soi 2 above the McDonald's.
Being a Canadian company they also have a maple iced version of that donut. Good donuts in general. Maybe the best standard donuts in Bangkok now. Except for the original glazed at Krispy Kreme, of course.Tim Horton's used to be Canadian owned. In 2014 Timmy's was bought by Restaurants International Inc. The owners of Wendy's and Popeye chicken and other interests. Tim Horton's has gone downhill since with poor quality products.
African dudes, Arab dudes and the Western guys who like that. Mostly the first two.I've seen plenty of white guys with them as well in Bangkok and Pattaya. Let's stop with the BS.
Nana Plaza Monday.
Looks like it's going to be a Merry Merry Christmas. The Indians are back in Town. Haha.
Just one Data Point. First time this current trip they stood out so much so I noticed.
Is it realistic for a single farang (good budget) to head over to Thaniya and be able to select 5-6 japanese oriented thai girls, have a fun party with drinks in a room and end up in an orgy with all of them? Yes, I know a 1+6 thinkg is easy to organize at other venues, but I'd like to experience the Karaoke version.
My goal is to be a bit drunk, get nekkid and have 2-3 pops with a few equally drunk girls in a KTV room. Fuck around while drinking, dancing and singing, basically.
I've seen plenty of white guys with them as well in Bangkok and Pattaya. Let's stop with the BS.Never said their aren't white guys who like 'them, and why is it BS? Certain tourist groups like the ladies large. Ever been to the Grace Coffee Shop during the old days? Your not telling us that their is no discrimination against Africans from the Asian ladies?
I daresay that most western tourists who visit BKK do not do so with an African girl in mind, especially 'Muricans, who can find them by the dozens at home.
Well I for one have the hots for brown sugar so African freelancers are right up my soi. I'm going to BKK in January and I'm constantly looking at "Walking on Soi 4-11" videos on Youtube to gauge how many Africans there currently is in BKK.
One might ask: "If you're so into Africans, why do you go to BKK?" Well there are a lot of reasons. It's a cheap city. Easy to live as a king. Great food. Great balance between high tech and low prices. Massage parlors. BJ bars. Familiarity with the city. Knowing the scene. And most importantly: Even though I'm a sucker for Africans, I do love Thai women as well. The best ones are petite, happy, smiling, funny, cute, with incredible soft skin. But sometimes you just want a black mega ass to sit on your face!"But sometimes you just want a black mega ass to sit on your face!
This made me laugh haha. The afro chicks I see in Thailand don't have arses that I would want sitting on my face, but that is just me.
I have always had a lot of luck with TF. Generally, I start by paying for a month of service. Then, I have contact a girl, and after one or two messages I ask her if she is interested in getting together. Occasionally, I have asked the girl if she is freelance. If the girl is interested, I ask her to send me her LineID or WhatsApp (not many have WhatsApp in Thailand) and when I contact her there, I quickly move onto practical questions such as price, level of service, etc.
Recently, I read here that some people come straight to the point on TF and ask the girl directly if she is a freelancer. On Date in Asia (DIA), this would get one expelled. Indeed, I have been expelled several times from DIA, as well as Tinder (which I cannot get back on without getting a new phone number). It occurred to me that if they really do not expel people from the service, I could cut through a bunch of messages and simply have a profile that says "Looking for hookups" and maybe state "FL / ONS welcome."
Has anyone here ever been expelled from TF for their profiles or directly negotiating a sexual service? If so, were you a paying member? Does anyone know the true boundaries of their moderators?DIA seems to have gotten better. I have messaged many girls about having fun but not expelled yet. Only one time I got expelled because I used choice words on a ladyboy when he insisted that he is a girl. Maybe in his mind but not mine. You cannot discuss money on DIA. For that you take them to WhatsApp or messenger or any other app. Even on DIA you cannot get back once expelled because they have a facial recognition software even if you have a new number, location, new e mail.
HorseTrader
11-22-22, 04:13
Is it realistic for a single farang (good budget) to head over to Thaniya and be able to select 5-6 japanese oriented thai girls, have a fun party with drinks in a room and end up in an orgy with all of them? Yes, I know a 1+6 thinkg is easy to organize at other venues, but I'd like to experience the Karaoke version.
My goal is to be a bit drunk, get nekkid and have 2-3 pops with a few equally drunk girls in a KTV room. Fuck around while drinking, dancing and singing, basically.I'm a single farang, but older, and I walked through that area last week. Although a few girls gave me some positive attention, they were aggressively marketing to the few groups of young, well dressed, Asian men. Regardless of what goes on in those places, you are starting out a couple steps behind their target demographic.
Should you stray over to Patpong, beware of girls promising one thing and failing to deliver in the room. I doubt that I'll return to that area, though it was interesting to see one time.
I was never much of a fan of Patpong.
When I first arrived here years ago it was either the craziness of the night market or the reputation of the scams in the upstairs bars that kept me from visiting frequently, not to mention the (slight) inconvenience of a BTS switch at Siam station for those of us who live along the Sukhumvit line. Nonetheless, I did find some of the older (legit) venues charming in kind of a timeless way. Whether it was a late breakfast at the Madrid restaurant, the occasional beer at a street-level outdoor bar in the alley between Patpong Soi 1 and Soi 2, or a show at one of the more well-known clubs, their old-fashioned style and more laid-back nature appealed to me.
I had heard Patpong was "quiet" post Covid, so I spent the past month or so scouting out the area to get a feel for what's really going on. I visited on weekdays, weekends, afternoons and evenings and made sure to visit the most famous BJ places, as outlined below.
Kangaroo Club (Patpong 1) is unfortunately closed. There is no sign of it on the downstairs door, no outdoor sign, and no decal on the upstairs window. Like a lot of places in Patpong, it simply doesn't exist any more.
Rose Bar (Patpong 1) is open but apparently on its last legs. As you approach the entrance, a guard will appear to let you in, as before. He rings the bell and then you walk up a steep staircase to the bar. At the top, when I went, I was greeted by Mamasan who, as it turns out, was the only employee working there that day. There were no signs of any other employees, and Mama told me they left because they were "scared of Covid". Well, that had to have been 2+ years ago, so I've no idea what the deal is with their staff, but apparently they don't really have any, or at least they didn't that day. I ordered a beer and bought one for Mama with the intention of chatting for a few minutes before leaving. Halfway through my beer, Mama starts stroking me and whispering that she wants to blow me. I wasn't really into it, but it had been a long week and I figured it would be my last-ever BJ there. I let her go at it and she did a surprisingly decent job. Finished up, down the stairs to street level. I may return one final time to confirm that they really don't have any staff members (it's always good to check a place out twice, I find, just to triangulate) but if they don't, I won't stay. Can't recommend this place in its present format and my guess is it won't be around much longer: it's decline seems both terminal and irreversible.
Meet the World Bar (Patpong 2, up the ramp). This place has had so many names over the years it's hard to keep track of: COB's, Linda's Place, The World, and now "Meet the World" is stenciled on the door, so I'll go with that. Approached it from the ramp and noted that a few girls were outside eating. They waved me over and I went inside. There were 5 girls working and Mamasan behind the bar. This was more like it. I bought drinks for a few of the girls, which made them happy and then we proceeded to get to know one another. It's a very hands-on place (think Pandora's in Pattaya before the new owner took it over) which is my main criterion. I'd much rather spend an afternoon with an older but hands-on MILF than a 23-year-old hottie in a Pattaya G-club who doesn't let me hold her hand until after I've bought her 10 drinks.
Anyway, the girls' clothing started coming off and sometime during my second drink they began undressing me. They're really good about stripping everybody down there, so if you're the least bit shy it's not the place for you (Mama locks the door before all this occurs, of course). I won't bore you with the details (smirk) but suffice it to say that it can get pretty wild in there. You'll have a lot of female body parts shoved in your face, and you can have as many providers as you want service you. My advice is to buy a few of them drinks, get all of those ones naked, but then pick only one (or two if you like) for the BJ. That will help keep the overall cost down since this way you only pay the BJ fee for the one (s) who actually service you. The others get their money through the drinks and a small tip you provide at the end. Be polite, but firm and you'll be fine in this regard. You'll still have a lot of fun but the check won't be outrageous. If they sense you're a newbie, though, you'll get tourist treatment / prices.
Star of Light (Patpong 2). Beneath Meet the World Bar is the infamous Star of Light. Like a beacon in the night, its white sign beckons to all who approach. It's just a small place with a few couches, a small bar, and a tiny restroom (no shower). There's also a mattress at the back, if you prefer. There was only one provider the first time I went, but more on duty when I swung by again last week. Overall, it's a nice enough place and there's no pressure / girl pile-on like there is at Meet the World, where you find yourself surrounded by sexy women and then before you know it your wallet is empty! I found both providers to be decent in the looks and personalities departments and who provided good enough service.
TLDR: Patpong area is extremely quiet, but a few of its most infamous BJ bars, besides Kangaroo Club, which is closed, are still around; Rose Bar: open but recommend you take a pass; Meet the World: the most / best girls and a nice raunchy hands-on time but hang on to your wallet; Star of Light: a good laid-back fun time.
Enjoy it while you can, fellas. My view is that Patpong actually isn't quiet. It's dead. And it's difficult to see how the entire area can be economically viable when so many establishments have simply ceased to exist and the ones that do exist are without many customers.
GiuseppeBonera
11-22-22, 11:44
Hey guys,
Was at levels the other day got a quote of 20000 for long time. I didn't go and ended up with another less atractive girl for 5000 (not good service) is 20000 to be expected for top quality? Or was this one off. I also countered regrettingly with 14000 and she said no.
Member #4813
11-22-22, 14:39
Doesn't seem like TF is moderated. But I also don't think you need to headline your profile with seeking FLers. Just message them and ask if they are FL. Seems like at this point 90% of the girls on TF are FL anyways.By my estimates, only about 10% of the girls on TF are freelancers, not 90%. But, no one messages the fat or ugly ones or the ones that are looking for someone who believes in God and is faithful, etc. So the effective portion of girls who are available for P4P seems higher. Thus it's easy enough to find the FLs. But I go through too much messaging to get to the girl who meets my goals- that is why I asked the question.
By the way, a small number of girls say that they are FLs or looking for a sugar daddy in their profile. A few even give pricing. I have noticed that they are still on the site.
If anyone has a suggestion for a girl who would like to "wife up" for a week, and is not adverse to threesomes from time to time, please message me her contact information. This is my ideal way to pass 10 days in BKK: a pretty "wife" or "guide" for mornings and dinners (who comes and goes but meets up in the evenings) and a handful of other ladies for diversity.
I was never much of a fan of Patpong.
When I first arrived here years ago it was either the craziness of the night market or the reputation of the scams in the upstairs bars that kept me from visiting frequently, not to mention the (slight) inconvenience of a BTS switch at Siam station for those of us who live along the Sukhumvit line.
TLDR: Patpong area is extremely quiet, but a few of its most infamous BJ bars, besides Kangaroo Club, which is closed, are still around; Rose Bar: open but recommend you take a pass; Meet the World: the most / best girls and a nice raunchy hands-on time but hang on to your wallet; Star of Light: a good laid-back fun time.Great informative FR. Some of the best advice I ever got was from an old Thailand hand before I first came in the mid '90's: "If you go to Patpong, the downstairs bars are safe. If you want to go to an upstairs bar for a show, take a girl from Nana with you. She'll keep you safe. " Great advice and she did (she wants your wallet for herself). When a tout for a show started leading us away from direct stairs up, he turned right, and she pulled me left, saying something was fishy. One line of hers I've NEVER forgotten: one act was p*ssy drinks coke. Upside down bicycle, full liter of coke inserted, drained, then she turns upright, squats over the bottle, and refills. My girl turns to me and says "I'm never drinking coke again. " One of those truly memorable moments.
Kangaroo, visited once or twice back in the '90's but just didn't catch my fancy. I won't miss it but some might.
The Rose. That bar has more lives than a cat. Back in the 90's it was a fun place, good for in-house service or even take away. It declined in the 00's, came back, and the last time I was actually inside, seeing ghosts, was about 6 years ago. I've been past there myself several times during the afternoon. No sign of life. For some unnatural reason, it STILL exerts a gravitational pull on me, but so far, I've resisted.
Been past the SOL in the early to mid-afternoon, and the bar is closed, plywood on the door with cleaning supplies propped up. No girls sitting outside. Glad to hear it's still functional later in the day. That place IS an institution.
Been to Meet the World a couple of times (16:00 and even 13:00 fully staffed, 4 ladies). I like the place. They intuitively put on tunes that I enjoy, and the natives are friendly, definitely a hands-on place. A lady drink is 150 baht, buying a lady one will remove her clothes. A beer is 100 baht, a BJ 800. Clarify the price FIRST. My first time back, I did, with no problems. 2nd time, 10 days later, they gave me a tourist bill, but I just had them correct it (as reported in FR). The ladies might not be in the 19-21 bracket, but they are fun and skilled. Given the history of that bar, it would be a tragedy if it disappears.
Again, great FR and filled in some gaps in my knowledge base. Thanks.
By my estimates, only about 10% of the girls on TF are freelancers, not 90%. But, no one messages the fat or ugly ones or the ones that are looking for someone who believes in God and is faithful, etc. So the effective portion of girls who are available for P4P seems higher. Thus it's easy enough to find the FLs. But I go through too much messaging to get to the girl who meets my goals- that is why I asked the question.
By the way, a small number of girls say that they are FLs or looking for a sugar daddy in their profile. A few even give pricing. I have noticed that they are still on the site.
If anyone has a suggestion for a girl who would like to "wife up" for a week, and is not adverse to threesomes from time to time, please message me her contact information. This is my ideal way to pass 10 days in BKK: a pretty "wife" or "guide" for mornings and dinners (who comes and goes but meets up in the evenings) and a handful of other ladies for diversity.As in money don't put your eggs in one basket.
4 FoW2.
Member #4813
11-23-22, 04:28
As in money don't put your eggs in one basket.
4 FoW2.Would you please translate? I do not mind being trolled, but I prefer to be trolled in English.
Hey guys,
Was at levels the other day got a quote of 20000 for long time. I didn't go and ended up with another less atractive girl for 5000 (not good service) is 20000 to be expected for top quality? Or was this one off. I also countered regrettingly with 14000 and she said no.About six weeks ago I was in BKK and had arranged to meet 4 ladies from Seeking Arrangement. I know these are not the typical ladies from bars, although at least 2 of three spent time in Level, Sugar, Oskar, etc. None wanted to discuss pricing online, but where happy to meet. I made it quite clear that while I understood how financial discussions are best done in person, I would not be paying for the pleasure of their company of dinner, if the evening didn't continue past dinner. I also required a video call before we met to verify photos. One of the four disqualified herself on the video call, when she didn't even put on lipstick and all I can say is thank goodness for make up.
Two of the three remaining were all they seemed to be, elegant, well dressed, good personalities and very attractive. All mid-30's which is my personal sweet spot. When the dinner was reaching the time for the check and a decision, we discussed compensation. One said that she was accustomed to receiving 20,000 baht per encounter, but was open to less if I was willing to prepay for a couple of weeks in advance. This lady was spectacular in most ways, even if she was a professional companion. I politely declined which she seemed very surprised. The next day she sent a message and asked me if she had done something wrong to offended me. I told I enjoyed our time together and was sure she was a spectacular companion, but that I would not be interested in almost any lady at that price range. The experience for me was not worth that much money, and that I could have similar experience for a week at that price. I told her she should ask as much as she wanted and I did not blame her, but I wasn't interested at that pricing level and did not want to insult her with a counter that would have been much less than half of what she asked.
The second of three wanted 10 K for the whole night, and she was also a very desirable lady, but I countered with 6 and she said 9 for short time. At that point I lost interest and paid the dinner tab and got her a cab. She messaged a couple of days after and said that she knew that 10 K was not an issue for me and didn't understand why I was such a hard ass. I said the 10 K didn't include the evening's cost's which I was happy to accept, but the other options available in BKK provided similar opportunity for me at a much lower cost. She asked why I didn't pay her something for her time at dinner, and I told her that if she had told me she wanted 10 K upfront she wouldn't have come to dinner and I explained my policy and she agreed before we met. The third lady told me she usually asked for 4 K, but "Liked" me and wanted to spend the evening together, so 3 would be fine. It turned to be a very fun time together, dinner, rooftop drinks, and very pleasant session in my room, followed by a BJ the next morning and breakfast. She was gone by 10:00 am. I did see her one other time during my stay and it was as good the second time. She was as close to a FL as I have had recently and while not as sophisticated, certainly was presentable.
This was a labor intensive process that took about 6 weeks total to arrange, but that was on me and to be honest was too long in advance. I think about 3 weeks out is a good time to start the search. I did have a few nice ones asking in the 7-10 K range as well. I also met 3 nice ladies at Oskar / Level that wanted 3 K and were worth it IMHO. All of them have other jobs and supplement their income in this fashion.
I don't blame the ladies for pushing up their prices, and good for them if they get it. I think many guys are embarrassed to say "no", I am respectful with them in every way. I will never say I would never pay a lady 20 K for a night, because being honest it is possible I could meet someone that would just totally knock my socks off and be "worth the investment", but I have not met her yet.
I will say the internet / Instagram "GPS" gals have certainly raised expectations, if not reality for many ladies. I suspect their friends all tell them they are getting huge sums, when the reality is much different.
About six weeks ago I was in BKK and had arranged to meet 4 ladies from Seeking Arrangement. I know these are not the typical ladies from bars, although at least 2 of three spent time in Level, Sugar, Oskar, etc. None wanted to discuss pricing online, but where happy to meet. I made it quite clear that while I understood how financial discussions are best done in person, I would not be paying for the pleasure of their company of dinner, if the evening didn't continue past dinner. I also required a video call before we met to verify photos. One of the four disqualified herself on the video call, when she didn't even put on lipstick and all I can say is thank goodness for make up.
Two of the three remaining were all they seemed to be, elegant, well dressed, good personalities and very attractive. All mid-30's which is my personal sweet spot. When the dinner was reaching the time for the check and a decision, we discussed compensation. One said that she was accustomed to receiving 20,000 baht per encounter, but was open to less if I was willing to prepay for a couple of weeks in advance. This lady was spectacular in most ways, even if she was a professional companion. I politely declined which she seemed very surprised. The next day she sent a message and asked me if she had done something wrong to offended me. I told I enjoyed our time together and was sure she was a spectacular companion, but that I would not be interested in almost any lady at that price range. The experience for me was not worth that much money, and that I could have similar experience for a week at that price. I told her she should ask as much as she wanted and I did not blame her, but I wasn't interested at that pricing level and did not want to insult her with a counter that would have been much less than half of what she asked.
The second of three wanted 10 K for the whole night, and she was also a very desirable lady, but I countered with 6 and she said 9 for short time. At that point I lost interest and paid the dinner tab and got her a cab. She messaged a couple of days after and said that she knew that 10 K was not an issue for me and didn't understand why I was such a hard ass.Some say online is cheaper. Which doesn't make sense when toothpaste online is much more expensive when you add in delivery fee.
Toothpaste or girl, both Commodities.
Not that I didn't know but to avoid Hurt feelings always discuss price ahead of time. They are Prostitute s and we are Johns.
No need to be thinking you are Romancing Good Girls. Haha.
AsianWinkie
11-23-22, 09:11
About six weeks ago I was in BKK and had arranged to meet 4 ladies from Seeking Arrangement. I know these are not the typical ladies from bars, although at least 2 of three spent time in Level, Sugar, Oskar, etc. None wanted to discuss pricing online, but where happy to meet. I made it quite clear that while I understood how financial discussions are best done in person, I would not be paying for the pleasure of their company of dinner, if the evening didn't continue past dinner. I also required a video call before we met to verify photos. One of the four disqualified herself on the video call, when she didn't even put on lipstick and all I can say is thank goodness for make up.
Two of the three remaining were all they seemed to be, elegant, well dressed, good personalities and very attractive. All mid-30's which is my personal sweet spot. When the dinner was reaching the time for the check and a decision, we discussed compensation. One said that she was accustomed to receiving 20,000 baht per encounter, but was open to less if I was willing to prepay for a couple of weeks in advance. This lady was spectacular in most ways, even if she was a professional companion. I politely declined which she seemed very surprised. The next day she sent a message and asked me if she had done something wrong to offended me. I told I enjoyed our time together and was sure she was a spectacular companion, but that I would not be interested in almost any lady at that price range. The experience for me was not worth that much money, and that I could have similar experience for a week at that price. I told her she should ask as much as she wanted and I did not blame her, but I wasn't interested at that pricing level and did not want to insult her with a counter that would have been much less than half of what she asked.
The second of three wanted 10 K for the whole night, and she was also a very desirable lady, but I countered with 6 and she said 9 for short time. At that point I lost interest and paid the dinner tab and got her a cab. She messaged a couple of days after and said that she knew that 10 K was not an issue for me and didn't understand why I was such a hard ass. I said the 10 K didn't include the evening's cost's which I was happy to accept, but the other options available in BKK provided similar opportunity for me at a much lower cost. She asked why I didn't pay her something for her time at dinner, and I told her that if she had told me she wanted 10 K upfront she wouldn't have come to dinner and I explained my policy and she agreed before we met. The third lady told me she usually asked for 4 K, but "Liked" me and wanted to spend the evening together, so 3 would be fine. It turned to be a very fun time together, dinner, rooftop drinks, and very pleasant session in my room, followed by a BJ the next morning and breakfast. She was gone by 10:00 am. I did see her one other time during my stay and it was as good the second time. She was as close to a FL as I have had recently and while not as sophisticated, certainly was presentable.
This was a labor intensive process that took about 6 weeks total to arrange, but that was on me and to be honest was too long in advance. I think about 3 weeks out is a good time to start the search. I did have a few nice ones asking in the 7-10 K range as well. I also met 3 nice ladies at Oskar / Level that wanted 3 K and were worth it IMHO. All of them have other jobs and supplement their income in this fashion.
I don't blame the ladies for pushing up their prices, and good for them if they get it. I think many guys are embarrassed to say "no", I am respectful with them in every way. I will never say I would never pay a lady 20 K for a night, because being honest it is possible I could meet someone that would just totally knock my socks off and be "worth the investment", but I have not met her yet.
I will say the internet / Instagram "GPS" gals have certainly raised expectations, if not reality for many ladies. I suspect their friends all tell them they are getting huge sums, when the reality is much different.20 k, are they nuts? I could get a hot LA girl with all the option for that price. What are they thinking, talk about GPS. You did the right thing by clearly stating you limits and respectfully declining their ridiculous offer. I'll follow your lead and set the ground rules clearly.
"But sometimes you just want a black mega ass to sit on your face!
This made me laugh haha. The afro chicks I see in Thailand don't have arses that I would want sitting on my face, but that is just me.I read some posts about the experience as a variety change-of-pace on another bulletin board for addicts of Pattaya and tried it just before the pandemic (am white, just for the record). The beer bar across from the old tree on Walking Street had a selection and has just recently come back to life. One girl, from Kenya, met appearance standards and passed the interview. She wouldn't go below B2000ST but I decided to go ahead. Really unexpectedly outstanding, best ST of the trip. Walk of shame was interesting. Two old Russian women gave us a disapproving look and the girl noticed and gave it a nose-up defiant gesture of her own. She'd seen it before but I hadn't.
Great GFE as soon as the door shut to the hotel room, which I wasn't expecting. Felt like kind of a window into the culture. Showers and then much more foreplay than expected. Even did DATY for first time ever on a black chick. That's always a game-time decision and not one I was expecting. ANY kind of stray smell inside or outside or other negative indicator would have been a dealbreaker, but there wasn't any. Of course the main event was covered, though for me that's always made it harder to finish. This girl got on top and was really into it (always a big plus), and in 30 seconds or so I could feel the contractions. Amazingly reassuring, as I knew this one would have a happy ending. A minute or two later with the doggy position it finished me off. She was a bit of a cuddler after that.
I checked the same bar on the October trip and there were maybe 6-7 choices but no real qualifiers. Also some in Bangkok along Sukhumvit but none with great appeal. Am very skittish and picky. The experience above was only my third-ever black experience, the other two being in Amsterdam (one very good, one so-so). The very good one was as tall as me at 6 feet and a statuesque beauty. The window experience is always rushed but at the time if you wanted 3 holes some of the black girls would be much cheaper for that. Plus the variety thing.
The second of three wanted 10 K for the whole night, and she was also a very desirable lady, but I countered with 6 and she said 9 for short time. At that point I lost interest and paid the dinner tab and got her a cab. She messaged a couple of days after and said that she knew that 10 K was not an issue for me and didn't understand why I was such a hard ass. I said the 10 K didn't include the evening's cost's which I was happy to accept, but the other options available in BKK provided similar opportunity for me at a much lower cost. She asked why I didn't pay her something for her time at dinner, and I told her that if she had told me she wanted 10 K upfront she wouldn't have come to dinner and I explained my policy and she agreed before we met. The third lady told me she usually asked for 4 K, but "Liked" me and wanted to spend the evening together, so 3 would be fine. It turned to be a very fun time together, dinner, rooftop drinks, and very pleasant session in my room, followed by a BJ the next morning and breakfast. She was gone by 10:00 am. I did see her one other time during my stay and it was as good the second time. She was as close to a FL as I have had recently and while not as sophisticated, certainly was presentable.
This was a labor intensive process that took about 6 weeks total to arrange, but that was on me and to be honest was too long in advance. I think about 3 weeks out is a good time to start the search. I did have a few nice ones asking in the 7-10 K range as well. I also met 3 nice ladies at Oskar / Level that wanted 3 K and were worth it IMHO. All of them have other jobs and supplement their income in this fashion.
I don't blame the ladies for pushing up their prices, and good for them if they get it. I think many guys are embarrassed to say "no", I am respectful with them in every way. I will never say I would never pay a lady 20 K for a night, because being honest it is possible I could meet someone that would just totally knock my socks off and be "worth the investment", but I have not met her yet.
I will say the internet / Instagram "GPS" gals have certainly raised expectations, if not reality for many ladies. I suspect their friends all tell them they are getting huge sums, when the reality is much different.That's a great lesson you shared, and important for others to see. Though sorry you had to expend so much labor on dinners. For myself, with so many hot girls in BKK, I can't justify anything near 20 k. As you said yourself, the girl at 3 k ended up being great overall, and I just can't imagine who would be hot enough to merit 6 times the cost. I'm not even ready (yet) to go to 6 k for LT. I guess if you're on Secret you can easily afford the 10 k without much thought, but like you mention, the girls at these asking prices are too presumptuous to be satisfying by the time you kiss goodbye (if they're even willing to do that) in the morning. I might go up 1 k for each level of looks, but like you, I had FL in August (also mid 30's) that I picked up at Soi 4 music bar and by the time she left at noon I was fully worn and satisfied. She was very attractive. Only a bit dark under the eyes in the morning and a couple millimeters of extra flesh in the belly and behind, but the continuous pleasure (3 k for about 8 hours, with only a few hours sleep) was all there. Compare her to some of the go go "models" asking 6-7 k LT, and lucky to have had the chance to grip their bodies at Nana only to find how untoned they were despite nice appearances.
Dinners are another matter. I'm going to follow your example by insisting on video chats for any possible LT, but I no longer have the patience you had for all the dinners, if they're going to add to high price, high time expenditure, and energy that could be put to better use. I did one dinner date with a civilian I met on tdr in August. She was 34 and hottttt, but her English wasn't so good, so the first date (unsuccessful) was really a downer. So tiring. But it only cost me a few hundred, and she was ready to go on the 2nd date (freebie heaven! But the whole process / uncertainty wore me out, so I opted to go back to ST / LT transactions. Even if she was a WG or FL, though, it wouldn't have been worth more than about 7 k to me.
Now the ones I also find intriguing are the special hotties who hold regular day jobs (like office jobs) but need extra cash. Unfortunately, they may not be available for LT, but they don't charge so much and damn are they amazing! They're also easy to follow up on. I think these are between 3 k ST-5 k LT. I don't think the 1-3 weeks advance chatting before the BKK trip helps much. I just make some contacts and then initiate real communication shortly before / after arrival. Sounds like you enjoy the dinner companionship, which I can understand. But in the end, I don't advocate the guys being too embarrassed to say no at these astronomical prices. I just don't see how it's worthwhile, and mongering wage inflation is becoming a threat in this SE Asian capital.
Stopped by Soi 7 Beer Garden today at 14:30. Certainly much improved from noon visit couple of weeks ago (3 waitresses, NO customers), but that's only RELATIVELY speaking. Today, there were 3 waitresses (sadly, not the one I've know for a decade+), half dozen old guys (includes myself), and a dozen FL's, all ridden hard and put away wet. Nam-a-Now (lime juice) 75 baht.
One said that she was accustomed to receiving 20,000 baht per encounter, but was open to less if I was willing to prepay for a couple of weeks in advance.
The second of three wanted 10 K for the whole night, and she was also a very desirable lady, but I countered with 6 and she said 9 for short time. Both, for me, the very definition of a spit-take.
But, like you say, if they can get... After all, 1 20k/week, a bg has to be almost 60% successful for LT's every week for the same. For the escort, certainly less wear and tear on the equipment.
But for me, I'd be looking for the passage back to my own dimension.
Not that I didn't know but to avoid Hurt feelings always discuss price ahead of time. They are Prostitute s and we are Johns.Agree: It IS P4P; business negations before departing, just so there are NO misunderstandings. I always ask menu, price, ST / LT, always specifying pay AFTER. But after that, never brought up again, including subsequent meetings. My first price is the price for her experience and doesn't need to be discussed again.
Disagree: MY experience, girls are mirrors. Seems to me, it you treat them like a prostitute, they will treat you like a John. But if you treat them like a person, that's the way they treat you. My experience anyway.
Never said their aren't white guys who like 'them, and why is it BS? Certain tourist groups like the ladies large. Ever been to the Grace Coffee Shop during the old days? Your not telling us that their is no discrimination against Africans from the Asian ladies?
I daresay that most western tourists who visit BKK do not do so with an African girl in mind, especially 'Muricans, who can find them by the dozens at home.LOL discrimination?? You need to go back and read what you wrote. Discrimination has nothing to do what we are talking about. You implied that it's mostly Arabs and African men with African women and I call it BS. I see mostly African men with Thai women. Who is keeping data about who is with who? Mindless rhetoric.
Link to #3?
About six weeks ago I was in BKK and had arranged to meet 4 ladies from Seeking Arrangement. I know these are not the typical ladies from bars, although at least 2 of three spent time in Level, Sugar, Oskar, etc. None wanted to discuss pricing online, but where happy to meet. I made it quite clear that while I understood how financial discussions are best done in person, I would not be paying for the pleasure of their company of dinner, if the evening didn't continue past dinner. I also required a video call before we met to verify photos. One of the four disqualified herself on the video call, when she didn't even put on lipstick and all I can say is thank goodness for make up.
Two of the three remaining were all they seemed to be, elegant, well dressed, good personalities and very attractive. All mid-30's which is my personal sweet spot. When the dinner was reaching the time for the check and a decision, we discussed compensation. One said that she was accustomed to receiving 20,000 baht per encounter, but was open to less if I was willing to prepay for a couple of weeks in advance. This lady was spectacular in most ways, even if she was a professional companion. I politely declined which she seemed very surprised. The next day she sent a message and asked me if she had done something wrong to offended me. I told I enjoyed our time together and was sure she was a spectacular companion, but that I would not be interested in almost any lady at that price range. The experience for me was not worth that much money, and that I could have similar experience for a week at that price. I told her she should ask as much as she wanted and I did not blame her, but I wasn't interested at that pricing level and did not want to insult her with a counter that would have been much less than half of what she asked.
The second of three wanted 10 K for the whole night, and she was also a very desirable lady, but I countered with 6 and she said 9 for short time. At that point I lost interest and paid the dinner tab and got her a cab. She messaged a couple of days after and said that she knew that 10 K was not an issue for me and didn't understand why I was such a hard ass. I said the 10 K didn't include the evening's cost's which I was happy to accept, but the other options available in BKK provided similar opportunity for me at a much lower cost. She asked why I didn't pay her something for her time at dinner, and I told her that if she had told me she wanted 10 K upfront she wouldn't have come to dinner and I explained my policy and she agreed before we met. The third lady told me she usually asked for 4 K, but "Liked" me and wanted to spend the evening together, so 3 would be fine. It turned to be a very fun time together, dinner, rooftop drinks, and very pleasant session in my room, followed by a BJ the next morning and breakfast. She was gone by 10:00 am. I did see her one other time during my stay and it was as good the second time. She was as close to a FL as I have had recently and while not as sophisticated, certainly was presentable.
This was a labor intensive process that took about 6 weeks total to arrange, but that was on me and to be honest was too long in advance. I think about 3 weeks out is a good time to start the search. I did have a few nice ones asking in the 7-10 K range as well. I also met 3 nice ladies at Oskar / Level that wanted 3 K and were worth it IMHO. All of them have other jobs and supplement their income in this fashion.
I don't blame the ladies for pushing up their prices, and good for them if they get it. I think many guys are embarrassed to say "no", I am respectful with them in every way. I will never say I would never pay a lady 20 K for a night, because being honest it is possible I could meet someone that would just totally knock my socks off and be "worth the investment", but I have not met her yet.
I will say the internet / Instagram "GPS" gals have certainly raised expectations, if not reality for many ladies. I suspect their friends all tell them they are getting huge sums, when the reality is much different.
Had a very interesting experience with a Thai gal recently that I thought I'd post and wonder if anyone knows her or had similar experiences. Would be keen to share notes and get some recommendations of similar gals out there.
Was staying at Novotel near muang thong and found a small massage spa. Few OK looking gals but the manager was really cute. Unfortunately she didn't provide massages but was friendly and I chatted with her for a bit and I practiced my bad and corny Thai that made her laugh.
I asked for a recommendation for a nice restaurant and bar and she suggested one she liked. So I her if she would like to get drinks and she kind of hesitated and said she had to stay late for work the spa but I kind of said I'd be at the there and to come later.
She then surprised me by saying but could she bring her friend. I said fine.
You was surprise then she called her friend right away and said she could come in 30 minutes and 3 of them showed up. At first I was a bit disappointed but I think she just felt awkward coming alone and after her while her two friends were busy stuffing their faces and drinking all the booze I ordered. She sat next to me and chatted and had a few drinks. I ordered some nice wine which impressed her and warm ended her up and she kind of told me she was married to this Indian guy who lived in Singapore but he only came to Thailand once a month and I got the sense she was quite lonely. I wasn't pushy and let her get comfortable and after a while she was pretty drunk and we were holding hands.
I got the sense not to push it and go slow (I sensed she was worried about her friends seeing her play around). By 11 pm she was really flirty and cosying up to me and her friends were not paying attention and I tried to kiss her but she laughed and turned her cheek but didn't seem offended. Later her friends said they had to go and she didn't want to but the made her leave. She told them to go to the car and she would join them in a minute.
After they left she gave me her number and a hug and I chanced it and kissed her again and she kissed me back and we kissed for a nice minute or so and got my tongue in her mouth and she responded but the her friend came back and she left. I messaged her immediately and she messaged back from the car and I asked if I could see her and she asked where I was staying and said she would come by for a drink. Waited in the lobby for her and she came by an hour later just when I was giving up hope. Long story short I ended up fucking her all night long (in between calls from her hubby).
Can share details and her contact if anyone keen but frankly was not the typical Bangkok experience and lot of work but really something much better than I expected.
Would love to know if anyone has had similar experiences. I think there's quite a few girls in bkk in similar situations and would love to explore that.Yes, plenty. In fact, 99% of my experiences when I lived in Thailand was like that.
What you did was charming a regular girl who was probably a bit lonely and wanted to get laid.
Unless you're so ugly and devoid of charm that the only way you can possibly get laid is by "giving gifts", Thailand, like the rest of the world, is full of normal girls who just want have some fun now and then,
with absolutely no need or expectations that you will give them any money.
LOL discrimination?? You need to go back and read what you wrote. Discrimination has nothing to do what we are talking about. You implied that it's mostly Arabs and African men with African women and I call it BS. I see mostly African men with Thai women. Who is keeping data about who is with who? Mindless rhetoric.Of course there are Thai women who go with African men. They wouldn't be the type of ladies that I for one would chose, there are certain levels.
But hey, why argue, you there now? We can go down to Nana with some clickers and do some counting.
Personally, half the fun in the Nana are is just watching the scene, like house fires, circuses and freak shows. Theres some great Thai food (or was) hidden around down there too.
Never seen any black guys in Thermae, have you (not counting Americans)?
Doesn't sound like a soft escort experience at all. Sounds more like you got lucky.
Well for my two cents worth, I met a lady on thai friendly who isn't a young one at all, mid 40's.
She hates that her husband screws around so she's started doing the same thing. Lonely heart, comes over for no strings attached sex and companionship. Has made it clear can't do overnight but doesn't expect anything in return. Lovely slim fit lady. I feel like I got lucky too. Probably older than your lady but motivations might be the same.
Had a very interesting experience with a Thai gal recently that I thought I'd post and wonder if anyone knows her or had similar experiences. Would be keen to share notes and get some recommendations of similar gals out there.
Was staying at Novotel near muang thong and found a small massage spa. Few OK looking gals but the manager was really cute. Unfortunately she didn't provide massages but was friendly and I chatted with her for a bit and I practiced my bad and corny Thai that made her laugh.
I asked for a recommendation for a nice restaurant and bar and she suggested one she liked. So I her if she would like to get drinks and she kind of hesitated and said she had to stay late for work the spa but I kind of said I'd be at the there and to come later.
She then surprised me by saying but could she bring her friend. I said fine.
You was surprise then she called her friend right away and said she could come in 30 minutes and 3 of them showed up. At first I was a bit disappointed but I think she just felt awkward coming alone and after her while her two friends were busy stuffing their faces and drinking all the booze I ordered. She sat next to me and chatted and had a few drinks. I ordered some nice wine which impressed her and warm ended her up and she kind of told me she was married to this Indian guy who lived in Singapore but he only came to Thailand once a month and I got the sense she was quite lonely. I wasn't pushy and let her get comfortable and after a while she was pretty drunk and we were holding hands.
I got the sense not to push it and go slow (I sensed she was worried about her friends seeing her play around). By 11 pm she was really flirty and cosying up to me and her friends were not paying attention and I tried to kiss her but she laughed and turned her cheek but didn't seem offended. Later her friends said they had to go and she didn't want to but the made her leave. She told them to go to the car and she would join them in a minute.
After they left she gave me her number and a hug and I chanced it and kissed her again and she kissed me back and we kissed for a nice minute or so and got my tongue in her mouth and she responded but the her friend came back and she left. I messaged her immediately and she messaged back from the car and I asked if I could see her and she asked where I was staying and said she would come by for a drink. Waited in the lobby for her and she came by an hour later just when I was giving up hope. Long story short I ended up fucking her all night long (in between calls from her hubby).
Can share details and her contact if anyone keen but frankly was not the typical Bangkok experience and lot of work but really something much better than I expected.
Would love to know if anyone has had similar experiences. I think there's quite a few girls in bkk in similar situations and would love to explore that.
Just spent week in BKK, getting blown nearly every day. Funny how some visits have a theme: this one was BBBJCIM for some reason.
One girl is a regular and another a soon-to-be regular, so I shall not share details, but I can speak to the infamous Seven Heaven pink salon near Phrom Phong. I have visited before, but not at their new location. The set-up is much the same: the customer is presented with an iPad of about 8 cure girls to choose, complete with photos and profile info. I chose Soda, a girl I previously missed out on due to her busy schedule. She's got smoking hot eyes in her profile pix but I can't definitely say the real Soda matched the profile pictures. No worries: she's pretty enough. Client pays upfront (1300, I think?) and we head up the stairs to the room which was as dismal as the previous place despite being newer. Sigh. After a 5 minute wait for her (exactly what is she doing with this time? My cock is washed at a sink station. Scrubbing is severe: two lathers of soap and one of alcohol. My pee hole is burning by the time she lies me on the bed and removes her shirt to expose her nice small, firm tits and gets on her knees. The blowjob is not rushed and starts with some shaft licking first, which is appreciated. I can hear the VERY HAPPY guy in the nearby room which is no problem for me, but might be for others. I eventually can hold out no longer and unload into her waiting mouth. She's so good at hiding her spitting that I didn't even see it. Then back to the sink for another scrubbing and mouth rinse (for my cock and her mouth, respectively). I tipped her 200 and headed to the waiting room to wait out the sudden, intense rain storm. After 15 minutes I wandered out into the wet streets, a changed man, or at least a pleased one.
ZenMinded1
11-25-22, 04:24
Hey thanks for this report! I found myself in Patpong just last night and was great to follow the footsteps.
Also initially wasn't a fan of the area these days but now somehow I like the desolation inbetween bars, and also probably due to lack of customers things usually get more handson then elsewhere (I. E. In Black Pagoda, if you're really into it, a barfine can be paid of 900 and 2 k to the girl to get BJ service upstairs. A pass for me for the price but nice to know).
- Rose Bar I did not manage to find to be honest. Maybe you can point me in the right direction?
- Meet the World. Echoing the experience although mine was brief as it was a long day. Linda provided great BJ service, nice slow and sloppy just how I like it. The younger girls outside are part of the same bar or work somewhere else? I could not figure it out.
- Star of Light below. Not sure if I found the right place but the non-360 bars (so the ones that are more like shops) all seemed shut on a Thursday. Maybe it's just a weekend place? Either way, it'll be interesting to come back re-check.
If in mood to share a beer in PP let me know, on me. Especially if you got more tips on where to find expert BJs in the area.
Kangaroo Club (Patpong 1) is unfortunately closed. There is no sign of it on the downstairs door, no outdoor sign, and no decal on the upstairs window. Like a lot of places in Patpong, it simply doesn't exist any more.
Rose Bar (Patpong 1) is open but apparently on its last legs. As you approach the entrance, a guard will appear to let you in, as before. He rings the bell and then you walk up a steep staircase to the bar. At the top, when I went, I was greeted by Mamasan who, as it turns out, was the only employee working there that day. There were no signs of any other employees, and Mama told me they left because they were "scared of Covid". Well, that had to have been 2+ years ago, so I've no idea what the deal is with their staff, but apparently they don't really have any, or at least they didn't that day. I ordered a beer and bought one for Mama with the intention of chatting for a few minutes before leaving. Halfway through my beer, Mama starts stroking me and whispering that she wants to blow me. I wasn't really into it, but it had been a long week and I figured it would be my last-ever BJ there. I let her go at it and she did a surprisingly decent job. Finished up, down the stairs to street level. I may return one final time to confirm that they really don't have any staff members (it's always good to check a place out twice, I find, just to triangulate) but if they don't, I won't stay. Can't recommend this place in its present format and my guess is it won't be around much longer: it's decline seems both terminal and irreversible.
Meet the World Bar (Patpong 2, up the ramp). This place has had so many names over the years it's hard to keep track of: COB's, Linda's Place, The World, and now "Meet the World" is stenciled on the door, so I'll go with that. Approached it from the ramp and noted that a few girls were outside eating. They waved me over and I went inside. There were 5 girls working and Mamasan behind the bar. This was more like it. I bought drinks for a few of the girls, which made them happy and then we proceeded to get to know one another. It's a very hands-on place (think Pandora's in Pattaya before the new owner took it over) which is my main criterion. I'd much rather spend an afternoon with an older but hands-on MILF than a 23-year-old hottie in a Pattaya G-club who doesn't let me hold her hand until after I've bought her 10 drinks.
Anyway, the girls' clothing started coming off and sometime during my second drink they began undressing me. They're really good about stripping everybody down there, so if you're the least bit shy it's not the place for you (Mama locks the door before all this occurs, of course). I won't bore you with the details (smirk) but suffice it to say that it can get pretty wild in there. You'll have a lot of female body parts shoved in your face, and you can have as many providers as you want service you. My advice is to buy a few of them drinks, get all of those ones naked, but then pick only one (or two if you like) for the BJ. That will help keep the overall cost down since this way you only pay the BJ fee for the one (s) who actually service you. The others get their money through the drinks and a small tip you provide at the end. Be polite, but firm and you'll be fine in this regard. You'll still have a lot of fun but the check won't be outrageous. If they sense you're a newbie, though, you'll get tourist treatment / prices.
Star of Light (Patpong 2). Beneath Meet the World Bar is the infamous Star of Light. Like a beacon in the night, its white sign beckons to all who approach. It's just a small place with a few couches, a small bar, and a tiny restroom (no shower). There's also a mattress at the back, if you prefer. There was only one provider the first time I went, but more on duty when I swung by again last week. Overall, it's a nice enough place and there's no pressure / girl pile-on like there is at Meet the World, where you find yourself surrounded by sexy women and then before you know it your wallet is empty! I found both providers to be decent in the looks and personalities departments and who provided good enough service.
TLDR: Patpong area is extremely quiet, but a few of its most infamous BJ bars, besides Kangaroo Club, which is closed, are still around; Rose Bar: open but recommend you take a pass; Meet the World: the most / best girls and a nice raunchy hands-on time but hang on to your wallet; Star of Light: a good laid-back fun time.
Enjoy it while you can, fellas. My view is that Patpong actually isn't quiet. It's dead. And it's difficult to see how the entire area can be economically viable when so many establishments have simply ceased to exist and the ones that do exist are without many customers.
Hey thanks for this report! I found myself in Patpong just last night and was great to follow the footsteps.
Also initially wasn't a fan of the area these days but now somehow I like the desolation inbetween bars, and also probably due to lack of customers things usually get more handson then elsewhere (I. E. In Black Pagoda, if you're really into it, a barfine can be paid of 900 and 2 k to the girl to get BJ service upstairs. A pass for me for the price but nice to know).
- Rose Bar I did not manage to find to be honest. Maybe you can point me in the right direction?
- Meet the World. Echoing the experience although mine was brief as it was a long day. Linda provided great BJ service, nice slow and sloppy just how I like it. The younger girls outside are part of the same bar or work somewhere else? I could not figure it out.
- Star of Light below. Not sure if I found the right place but the non-360 bars (so the ones that are more like shops) all seemed shut on a Thursday. Maybe it's just a weekend place? Either way, it'll be interesting to come back re-check.
If in mood to share a beer in PP let me know, on me. Especially if you got more tips on where to find expert BJs in the area.Rose Bar: Patpong 1. If walking from Silom towards Surawong Road, it will be on the left hand side. It's a 2nd floor bar with only a door and stairway on the ground floor. Look for a sign (over the door) Rose (used to be there, I'll have to check later this week). The sign is parallel to Patpong 1 so it's not sticking out into the sidewalk. There MIGHT be a chair or stool on the sidewalk to the side of the door. That's where the doorman sits who rings the bell to alert the bar that someone is coming up. It's hard to miss with the sign; 1/2 the time, I too miss it so the sign MIGHT be gone, only in my memory. This is an ANCIENT photo.
Meet the World: MY experience, any of the ladies sitting outside the bar work there, at least in the afternoons. Usually 4, my experience, but I don't remember a Linda from my visits (though they could have given me their Thai names, or she comes later). Again, MY experience, EVERY lady sitting outside has followed me inside, but that just might be my magnetic presence. As I've posted, beer should be 100, BJ 800, lady drink 150.
SOL: On Patpong 2. If you exit Foodland, turn right, walking away from Silom. At the FIRST access to the covered passage on your right, look; SOL is there (there's a beer bar on the right of the access with a stairway going up to the 2nd level on your left). Just a door (ground floor bar), with some horizontal windows (blocked out) to the left of the door higher up on the wall. It's just where the roof of the covered passage inside of Patpong 2 starts. Both times I've been by in the afternoon, there's been a couple of sheets of plywood over the door. Another old photo attached.
Rose Bar: Patpong 1. If walking from Silom towards Surawong Road, it will be on the left hand side. It's a 2nd floor bar with only a door and stairway on the ground floor. Look for a sign (over the door) Rose (used to be there, I'll have to check later this week). The sign is parallel to Patpong 1 so it's not sticking out into the sidewalk. There MIGHT be a chair or stool on the sidewalk to the side of the door. That's where the doorman sits who rings the bell to alert the bar that someone is coming up. It's hard to miss with the sign; 1/2 the time, I too miss it so the sign MIGHT be gone, only in my memory. This is an ANCIENT photo.
Meet the World: MY experience, any of the ladies sitting outside the bar work there, at least in the afternoons. Usually 4, my experience, but I don't remember a Linda from my visits (though they could have given me their Thai names, or she comes later). Again, MY experience, EVERY lady sitting outside has followed me inside, but that just might be my magnetic presence. As I've posted, beer should be 100, BJ 800, lady drink 150.
SOL: On Patpong 2. If you exit Foodland, turn right, walking away from Silom. At the FIRST access to the covered passage on your right, look; SOL is there (there's a beer bar on the right of the access with a stairway going up to the 2nd level on your left). Just a door (ground floor bar), with some horizontal windows (blocked out) to the left of the door higher up on the wall. It's just where the roof of the covered passage inside of Patpong 2 starts. Both times I've been by in the afternoon, there's been a couple of sheets of plywood over the door. Another old photo attached.An easy way to find Rose Bar is to walk along Patpong 2, away from Silom, until you get to the first "cutover" cross-soi to Patpong 1. Take a left and walk straight. When you reach Patpong 1, cross to the far side and turn right (so, you're on the left side of Patpong 1, walking away from Silom). Walk a few meters down and you will see a large red cooler / fridge outside. Just past that is a red door with a Rose Bar decal on it. There's a bell you can ring or a guy sitting on the curb outside will run over and ring it for you. Then you can head up the (very steep) staircase.
For Meet the World, best way to find it is to walk up Patpong 2 towards Silom. At the first staircase to the upper level, on your left, walk up the stairs and then take a right. Walk a few feet and Meet the World Bar will be on your left. If they're not busy, there are usually girls on the right hanging out on the veranda. Generally, all those ladies hanging around outside the bar work in the bar. Particularly in the afternoons, there really are no other bars open on that level. Usually, they all follow you in.
If the bar appears closed / locked, fear not. It just means there's a fellow monger being serviced inside. You may either ring the bell or choose to come back later.
If you decide to return later, a good place to go and grab a drink while you wait is Shenanigans. Walk down the stairs and turn right onto Patpong 2 (away from Silom). When you arrive at Thanon Surawong (main road), take a left and Shenanigan's Irish Pub will be on your left (between Patpong 2 and Patpong 1). Generally nice staff / people / atmosphere and you can just hang out inside or on the patio. It gets fairly busy in the late afternoons / early evenings with the post-office crowd. There's also a Starbuck's across the street.
For Star of Light, beneath Meet the World and closer to Silom on Patpong 2, I texted the owner to ask her what's up. Apparently, there is some renovation work going on ("fix shower and change bed and color". According to the owner, the work is happening after the bar closes at night, so she claims it's still open now. You may wish to try it at different times, though, or check back in a week or so when it will likely be complete.
Banana Boi
11-26-22, 08:55
Not too difficult to find anything in Patpong any longer because almost everything is closed on the main street. Here are 2 photos of how dead Patpong 1 was at 10:50 pm on October 23.. Standing at one of the only open bars, KC, looking both ways.
TwilightZoner
11-27-22, 01:50
In preparation for my upcoming trip to Bangkok, I thought that I might also check out Fiwfans and Sideline to broaden my range of choices that would include the soapies, parlors, BJ bars and gogo bars. While Google did a stellar job of translating and I could interpret at least the gist of what was listed, there were some phrases and / or terminology that puzzled me.
When the profile states 'Don't want cash', does it mean that the lady would prefer bank transfers?
Does 'can play poses' mean multiple positions or can we take pictures?
I have NO idea what 'can remove the cleavage' means.
I will assume that 'broken face' would mean CIF and 'split mouth' would mean CIM rather than an invitation for abuse.
No idea what 'disintegration' means at all.
Any assistance in possible meanings would definitely be appreciated.
Been oogling number 141 Rainbow 5 recently. I for a fact knows she notices me checking her out as we do make eye contact.
Don't know if she is in Utter Digest or likes me undressing her with my eyes.
I'm conflicted.
ZenMinded1
11-27-22, 04:37
Well thank you fellow gents 11 Bravo, BlueNose and Banana Boi!
That was not only quick but also very timely. On the same day (BKK time) that 11 Bravo clarified I managed to find all 3 easily, and then some.
So first of all. For proper, 80-ies or 90-ies style experience (my wild guess as unfortunately at the time I was not able to actually experience Thailand in its fullness), Patpong might just be the best of the Big 3.
Indeed, Rose bar is just where the photos say it will be but now it's a shoe shop next to it. But the sign, and the doorman are still there. Yes it's still a steep climb to a dark little cave, and I swear there's some feel of peckers getting serviced of long gone yesteryear. Mamasan is welcoming and smiling however old and offers to at least sit down for a drink, not even hiding anymore the fact that there are no girls. Having thanked the nice old lady but wanting to go elsewhere, indeed an offer of a good, discounted BJ comes out. But meh. Though if there was at least one or two more girls in there I would totally go for it. And then some.
Come down and there's the ever-ready pussy seller ready to tell you "you no like no problem, I take you to another place". Generally I refuse but it was a long day and besides it's just a short walk so fuck it, lets see. So gents, right next to Thigh bar (the one which unexplainably tries to charge 300 B entrance fee. Like WTF, in Patpong at this time when there's no one around? Be serious, owner), just to the right there is a small door leading up to an almost hidden massage parlor with all the extras. 90 minutes, 4 not superawesome ladies on offer but at 1500 who can argue. Saying no again (hey. I do when I get the feels, nothing to do with looks or prices), offer quickly comes down to 1200 with lack of belief at me still exiting. Such is life.
The street tout is waiting again (like the smug seller that probably knows all the stages) and hands me off to another lady seller just down the street, who then takes me again to World's bar.
Being now familiar with it, picked up Apple right out front, and in we go. And yeah. Looking young might not be the best idea as approach to arranging a BJ right after door closes is pretty hard but polite bargaining brings price of my drink to 100, girls drink to 100 and BJ to 1 k. I know it might be 800 but what the hell. Mamasan says. Want on the bed? Nah mamasan I'm good here. And Apple is out of her panties and bra that I almost have no time to even start on my beer before my dick is nice and warm in her mouth. She takes her time and doesn't rush it and just as I finish the beer in the middle of the bar, staring at the blinking Christmas lights and listening to jittery rock music, I warn Apple about the incoming eruption and she of course gulps it down like a champion, with mamasan on the side doing her paperwork. And afterwards we all have a joke about how I'm a good customer no? Come in, grab a beer, grab blowjob, all happy and off I go.
Descending just downstairs with a spring in my step, indeed I find the Star of the Light open this time! Only the mamasan is outside and "girls are coming in 10 minutes, why don't you have one beer". Thanks mamasan, maybe next time.
I'm starting to like Patpong best. Want boys they are right there, (and I understand a lot of these might not be really gay so could be fun to bring my solo female friends here), want girls they are right there, want some S&M well there's a club for you, and even if you just want to drink there's 2 actual irish pubs in Patpong itself (okay okay. Cowboy has some offerings now like this too, but way too touristy for my taste lately).
Ah and then there was the oddball freelance lady (who seemed to just be a guy's girlfriend) in Badabing from about 2 weeks ago who was with what was probably a Chinese customer, who was more than happy that his "girlfriend" was keen to dance on stage and show off teeny tiny panties. Yours truly enjoyed the show too but later walked off to have a beer elsewhere. Only to have the same lady walk in with a huge grin on her face at recognizing me.
"Hey where's your boyfriend?
"Oh he just customer, go home".
About 30 minutes later it was "Oh my God I fucking love you" from her as she was getting pounded shortly before yours truly filled her young little box with hot cum. Bareback. Some shenanigans with payments before and after but what can a walking ATM here do. Show a little, give a little, smile a lot and in style of Johnny Walker. Keep walking.
Hot Girl Alert.
Not Blackie and tall with bullet type nippals.
A solid 7 point 5 maybe 8. Barmaid said she been there a week, no way in San Jose, I would have noticed.
Avg size, original tittie's. A General would be proud to have this girl as his own.
Number 505.
An Asian said let's go long time. I heard her say No Way Jose hot girls like me only do Short Time. Hahaha.
Been oogling number 141 Rainbow 5 recently. I for a fact knows she notices me checking her out as we do make eye contact.
Don't know if she is in Utter Digest or likes me undressing her with my eyes.
I'm conflicted.What's the conflict? Seems you've been "on-deck" for a long time. Maybe it's time to step up to the plate and take a couple of swings. Maybe you strike out, maybe you hit a home run. But until you step into the batter's box, you'll never know. Hahaha.
ChuchoLoco
11-27-22, 16:56
Just watched a video on YouTube and it showed the temp at night being 89 degrees F. Man that's hot but is it easier that no sun is beating down on you? I'm a night person so maybe that will help but for you guys from anywhere but the south and southwest states how does the high heat and guessing high humidity affect you?
What's the conflict? Seems you've been "on-deck" for a long time. Maybe it's time to step up to the plate and take a couple of swings. Maybe you strike out, maybe you hit a home run. But until you step into the batter's box, you'll never know. Hahaha.So on my last trip I tipped Mook very generously. She was Happy as a Clam. No barfine.
A month goes by on my current trip I showed my appreciation one time in 10 days,. She doesn't look so Clam Happy anymore.
In my defense on a couple occasion s I would have flowed money her way but she does get a lot of customers.
I read some of the posts and visited there today. It is 30 minutes Max and normal people can cum only 1 time for 800 baht. There is another package for 1500, the duration is 1 hours and can make you cum 2 times with BJ or FS.
My dick is a lazy dude, he normally doesn't want to cum for normal BJs and the lady I chose tried really hard about 20-25 minutes to make me cum. She opened her bras and allowed me to squeeze her ass and rub her pussy and finally I released the load into her mouth. After spitting that off she talked happily and was smiling. I felt pity about her and tipped her 100 for the efforts. The place is clean and I will go back again.Yikes. Popped by Wood Bar this evening. About 7 or so gals outside. To say they were unattractive would be like saying a blue whale is a large animal. Could be one of the ugliest collections of women I have ever seen in BKK. Makes the current Tulip staff look like Miss Universe contestants. Wouldn't let any of them near my unit.
Also did a walk of 24 and 24/1 where there was the odd 6 or 7 in the looks department. Guess I'm spoiled by what I find online and of course what I'm paying for the online gals. Oh well.
Pre-OP
Monday, dentist finished. Messaged my Sakura Akasuri masseuse but she was unavailble, so booked Friday, and passed due to Tuesday's appointment. Tuesday it was Tulip. Wednesday, I was mentally incapacitated (I. E. I had gotten my brains f*cked out.) Thursday it was Paradise 4 hand massage. Friday, Sakura Akasuri, which I probably should have passed on, but it's just too enjoyable. Saturday was my fav watering hole and the GFE.
Sunday, major ops. Out to Chatachak on the MRT (DON'T get off at Chatachak Park, but it's the NEXT station, Kamphaeng Phet that puts you right on the edge of the market, in the most interesting section, 26). Looking for my favorite shop, of course, had lost the business card. But a grid search (the market is a grid) resulted in success. Then on for another fav. Here, no luck, a LOT of back and forth. But luck WAS with me as I walked back to 26. Passing a shop, recognized the merchandise. And, with mask down, owner recognized me; he'd just moved from 8 to 10.
Final target, and an important one: the resupply base, Viva 26 bar. Great bar for refreshments, a cold drink (or 2), some great music, not the usual stuff, but some eclectic tunes. Sadly, KIA, didn't survive. A REAL loss as it's been a mandatory stop for at least a decade.
Fine, no resupply. Back to the MRT, from Chatachak to Si Lom.
Thanks Blue Note (@#@%) for the can't miss directions to Rose. Easily found it. Yes the sign above the door is still there, the door was open, and I could feel the tractor beam rays trying to draw me in. And Zenminded1, you are SO correct about that feeling of peckers being serviced from the past as you walk up the long dark stairway to ... But only distant echos, and I was able to resist.
Given no Viva 26, over to Foodland's Took Lae Dee restaurant for some liquid refreshments. Chatachak has NOT changed, and it's HOT.
Battle Report
From there, I am very familiar with the path to Meet the World. Only 2 ladies outside, but one was my target. I'd noticed that during my previous cluster suck, she was lubed as I practiced my braille reading. A subsequent visit for oral confirmed the lube. So now the OP was: FS followed by another beer, then a BBBJ. Well, that was the plan. Both ladies followed me inside, one on each side, massaging, but I quickly selected my preference and the other graciously disappeared.
The first part worked out: FS in the curtained chamber (2 other ladies relaxing inside, dislodged, one simply moving to the bench across the aisle) was, for me, 1200 baht, CFS. The bed left a lot to be desired, lumpy and saggy don't do it justice (I thought one area might be an old milking table without the plug). I can confirm the lube (shame to waste a natural lube) was genuine. Great service. However, now came face to face with the harsh reality. I was out of ammo. I mean there was nothing left in the magazine. Don't get old. But I accept reality, had enjoyed myself, so perhaps the double shot fantasy will have to wait for another time. Total damage: 100 baht beer, 150 baht lady drink, 1200 baht service = 1450.
WIR: definitely, both oral and FS, just perhaps not on the same visit.
Zenminded1
On previous visits, walking along Patpong 1, there was a middle-aged lady with a laminated massage card, saying she had a bar with a lot of ladies. Personally, I give touts a WIDE bearth. I DON'T think it's like the dangerous OLD days with upstairs rip-off bars, especially with the decline of Patpong (will always be grateful to my Nana bar fine guide who pulled me right when a tout turned left instead of straight up the stairs on my FIRST visit). Still, I figure those touts are making money somehow ... YMMV.
Just watched a video on YouTube and it showed the temp at night being 89 degrees F. Man that's hot but is it easier that no sun is beating down on you? I'm a night person so maybe that will help but for you guys from anywhere but the south and southwest states how does the high heat and guessing high humidity affect you?It is KILLING me, and I'm Southwest. I understand heat, but the HUMIDITY. And NO breeze, just oppressive. Think inside one of the NARROW Chatachak aisles ... and that's NOT Chatachak but walking down any street. If I'm lucky enough to get a seat on the BTS or MRT, I CAN'T lean back. My shirt is drenched, and with the a/c inside, it's that damp clammy feel. Saturday, arrived SOAKED, rain, sweat, and that sweat where you wear a rain jacket but still get soaked from your own sweat due to the heat/humidity. Girl hung my shirt outside so it'd be dry when we finished.
But I will say yesterday and today, in the afternoon, a bit less humidity and a breeze. A world of difference. Talking today with a Thai civilian, he said things should start to improve. Certainly hope so. But still having thundershowers.
So on my last trip I tipped Mook very generously. She was Happy as a Clam. No barfine.
A month goes by on my current trip I showed my appreciation one time in 10 days,. She doesn't look so Clam Happy anymore.
In my defense on a couple occasion s I would have flowed money her way but she does get a lot of customers.Well hell, you certainly showed her. I bet her heart is broken (the old "broken heart, broken heart" refrain). It must really irk her that you're there gawking at other women while she's making money. hahaha
Just watched a video on YouTube and it showed the temp at night being 89 degrees F. Man that's hot but is it easier that no sun is beating down on you? I'm a night person so maybe that will help but for you guys from anywhere but the south and southwest states how does the high heat and guessing high humidity affect you?I sweat alot and drink lots of water.
ChuchoLoco
11-27-22, 19:59
It is KILLING me, and I'm Southwest. I understand heat, but the HUMIDITY. And NO breeze, just oppressive. Think inside one of the NARROW Chatachak aisles ... and that's NOT Chatachak but walking down any street. If I'm lucky enough to get a seat on the BTS or MRT, I CAN'T lean back. My shirt is drenched, and with the a/c inside, it's that damp clammy feel. Saturday, arrived SOAKED, rain, sweat, and that sweat where you wear a rain jacket but still get soaked from your own sweat due to the heat/humidity. Girl hung my shirt outside so it'd be dry when we finished.
But I will say yesterday and today, in the afternoon, a bit less humidity and a breeze. A world of difference. Talking today with a Thai civilian, he said things should start to improve. Certainly hope so. But still having thundershowers.
Well hell, you certainly showed her. I bet her heart is broken (the old "broken heart, broken heart" refrain). It must really irk her that you're there gawking at other women while she's making money. hahahaPerfect way to describe the heat. I'm kinda scared now and not scared of much. Anything over 75 is hot for me anymore. BUT it looks so awesome that I may have to tough it out. Thanks 11 Bravo. Stay cool!
It is KILLING me, and I'm Southwest. I understand heat, but the HUMIDITY. And NO breeze, just oppressive. Think inside one of the NARROW Chatachak aisles ... and that's NOT Chatachak but walking down any street. If I'm lucky enough to get a seat on the BTS or MRT, I CAN'T lean back. My shirt is drenched, and with the a/c inside, it's that damp clammy feel. Saturday, arrived SOAKED, rain, sweat, and that sweat where you wear a rain jacket but still get soaked from your own sweat due to the heat/humidity. Girl hung my shirt outside so it'd be dry when we finished.
But I will say yesterday and today, in the afternoon, a bit less humidity and a breeze. A world of difference. Talking today with a Thai civilian, he said things should start to improve. Certainly hope so. But still having thundershowers.
Well hell, you certainly showed her. I bet her heart is broken (the old "broken heart, broken heart" refrain). It must really irk her that you're there gawking at other women while she's making money. hahahaThink I figured it out.
Recently a Star from Rainbow 4 moved over to Rainbow 5. This Star likes getting 5 Squids about once a month from me. I'm ok with it, liked it better when she was on stage pre COVID Topless. Haha,
Mook thinks WTF why am I giving her more? Am I all of a sudden Chopped Liver? Resulting cold shoulder treatment. Mook gets 2 squids per.
Difference being Mook gets compensated way more than once a month. I'm not ok with compensating the ex Rain 4 girl more than once a month.
Bargirl Dynamics.
P.S. The are. 4 girl makes huge money but she gets antsy when she Feels it's that time of the month.
So yes girls do think about nice gentlemanly gentlemen who appreciate them.
Definition of appreciatio- Show Me the Money. LOL.
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Perfect way to describe the heat. I'm kinda scared now and not scared of much. Anything over 75 is hot for me anymore. BUT it looks so awesome that I may have to tough it out. Thanks 11 Bravo. Stay cool!Don't be worried, it seems to be getting better, and certainly nights are cooler.
The BTS and MRT are air conditioned and a great way to get around. I DEFINITELY recommend spending the 100 baht each for their travel cards, fill up, then top up as needed. I put 1000 baht on each. A month later, when I leave, my BTS will probably have 100 baht left, the MRT 700. No worries, I never try to get money back, just use the next trip. WORST case, the cards expire and you have to pay another 100 baht for a new one, BUT any unused balance from the old IS transferred to the new. DEFINITELY beats having to stand in line for the ticket machines or to get change at the office every time you travel. Just swipe in, travel, swipe out. Taxis are cheap, daytime, start at 35 baht (dead as dodos are the unmetered taxis, all metered for decades), and most have their air conditioning working. But taxis are subject to traffic congestion, while the BTS / MRT are not. I walk, but if tired take a taxi to the BTS station for onward travel.
As Nyezhov says, stay hydrated. Water, they have Gatorade and Perrier here, and I find a nam-a-now soda (it's lime (they say lemon but it IS lime) squash with soda water) VERY refreshing. Not sweet, tangy.
Given I walk a lot in the daytime, so my fitbit says, I'm wondering if I can write this trip off as medical expenses on my taxes. Just following my doctor's orders to get out and exercise. But I will say that NOT all the huffing and puffing comes from walking .... You'll be fine, traffic stops for pedestrians in crosswalks, and there are places to sit along the way.
It is KILLING me, and I'm Southwest. I understand heat, but the HUMIDITY. And NO breeze, just oppressive. Think inside one of the NARROW Chatachak aisles ... and that's NOT Chatachak but walking down any street. If I'm lucky enough to get a seat on the BTS or MRT, I CAN'T lean back. My shirt is drenched, and with the a/c inside, it's that damp clammy feel. Saturday, arrived SOAKED, rain, sweat, and that sweat where you wear a rain jacket but still get soaked from your own sweat due to the heat/humidity. Girl hung my shirt outside so it'd be dry when we finished.
...Forget about classic T-shirts or shirts, they're much too hot. The pic shows what you should wear in Thailand. The flimsiest of cotton. You can buy them on the islands and in Pattaya, not sure about Bangkok.
Also, short trousers, NO SOCKS, bare-foot in cheap plastic open shoes or sandals you can buy anywhere.
The BTS is unfortunately much too cold to be healthy after the outdoor heat. Why is it kept so chilly? My hunch is because they want the smells given off by people not to be noticeable, an instance of Thai saving face.
TheNileRiva
11-28-22, 09:48
Forget about classic T-shirts or shirts, they're much too hot. The pic shows what you should wear in Thailand. The flimsiest of cotton. You can buy them on the islands and in Pattaya, not sure about Bangkok.
Also, short trousers, NO SOCKS, bare-foot in cheap plastic open shoes or sandals you can buy anywhere.
The BTS is unfortunately much too cold to be healthy after the outdoor heat. Why is it kept so chilly? My hunch is because they want the smells given off by people not to be noticeable, an instance of Thai saving face.A clothing tip for people who don't do well in the SE-Asian heat, give Merino Wool t-shirts a go.
Wool is a natural moisture wicking material, which means it absorbs your sweat and it dries very quickly once you reach a cold, dry environment like an air-conditioned place. The natural roughness of wool fibre also prevents bacteria, which is the cause of odours, from growing, keeping you smelling fresh after a day in the sun. They also have the added bonus of being wrikle-free, so the girls won't think you're a slob even if you can't be bothered to fold your clothes.
Part 2 of my Bangkok BJ Bar tour report.
I focused for the past two weeks on spending some time in the BJ bars around Nana.
Although I've not been inside the bars there recently, I walk down Soi 8 at least weekly and the two BJ bars that are adjacent to Soi 8 do have half-decent lineups, with Kasalong appearing to have better talent overall. If you've not visited, walk down Soi 8 away from Sukhumvit and take your second right (at the 7-Eleven). Lolita's is on the left and after you've squeezed through the walkway to the adjacent soi after Lolita's you'll find Kasalong, also on your left. If you don't see anyone you like, it's a good idea to go grab a beer on Soi 4 (just keep walking straight after Kasalong and you'll bump into Soi 4) and return 30 40 minutes later for another look. Mid-late afternoon is a good time to go, if you're in the area. I saw a decent looking one about a week ago at Kasalong as I was passing by. Alas, on my way back she was nowhere to be found.
Soi 7/1 has been hopping and, in my view, is a real hidden gem in the lower Sukhumvit area. Easy to miss if you're not familiar with it since the soi curves away from Sukhumvit, making it difficult to see very far down. If you do venture down it you'll find multiple beer bars, several beer bar / massage shop hybrid businesses, and Wood Bar, which is deeper (heh) in the soi on the right. I'd always avaoided this place, pre-Covid, as I thought it was mainly a place for tourists, although I didn't find that to be true when I visited. The name Wood Bar is really something of a misnomer as this place is very much not about drinking / sitting around / chatting. It's all business, and despite the decent lineup (in my view, it's the best lineup of the Nana-area BJ bars) it's a bit too transactional for me.
After you walk in, they'll line up the girls for you and you pick. Then, you pay and head right upstairs. There's no foreplay, no drinking, no groping, no warm up downstairs. And don't even think about hanging out in the bar. That's what I didn't like about it. Mamasan agreed to sell me a beer only after I assured her I would take a girl and I ended up drinking the beer in the room. I prefer a more laid-back vibe, like Soi 6 in Pattaya, where you can sit and drink with the girl for a while. The "squeeze test" is what I call it and it's a fun way to relax, get to know your provider, and get warmed up. So, if you're at all like me then do your warm-up lap at one of the beer bars on Soi 7/1 , and then go take care of business at Wood Bar. (I will likely follow my own advice in that regard for my next visit).
Out of the way a bit is Duangporn's Haven. To get there, take the BTS to Asoke Station (or just walk from Nana) and then head for Exit #4. At the bottom of the stairs, don't cross the intersection. Instead, take an immediate right onto Thanon Ratchadapisek (that's the big road that intersects with Sukhumvit Road at the Asoke interchange). Walk straight on Thanon Ratchadapisek and take your second right (at the cannabis dispensary). Duangporn's Haven will be straight ahead on your right about 50 m down the soi. It's off the beaten track a bit and you would never know that it was there unless you were looking for it. Ladies will be congregated outside and Duangporn uses a queue system, similar to a massage shop, so the girl who gets up to lead you in is number 1 in the queue. Now, you can pick your girl, of course, you don't have to go with the queue girl, but remember to do this before you go inside. If you go inside with the queue girl, buy her a drink, chat with her etc. But then don't take her then she will lose her spot in the queue. If you take another girl upon entry then number 1 in the queue retains her position for the next guy. It's a strange system, for sure, at a bar like this. I've used a queue girl before, when I didn't have a strong preference, but I think I will just stop and pick the one (s) I want during future visits.
Inside, there's a bar, some couches, and even a pool table. If you want to play, the girls are very accommodating. I usually start at the bar, migrate to a couch, and then go upstairs but you can just grab your girl and go directly upstairs, if that's your thing. They have the usual BJ rooms with a sink or you can get the full-service room, which is old but surprisingly nice with a decent bathroom, shower, and bed. Overall, I like this place for its laid-back vibe and friendly staff but I would note that the lineup is likely stronger at the other Nana-area BJ bars.
TLDR: Lolita's and Kasalong both conveniently located near Nana BTS just adjacent to Soi 8; YMMV with both, but for my money Kasalong has the better lineup at present; Wood Bar on Soi 7/1 has a decent lineup and nice facilities but it's highly transactional approach, with a view towards operational efficiency, may be a turnoff for some; Duangporn's Haven has a laid-back vibe with friendly staff, no pressure, and nice amenities, but be mindful of their queue systemjust pick the one you want or take a pass.
Got to finish up a few end-of-year initiatives in the office over the next few weeks. Then, I'll be heading to Pattaya after Christmas and expect to have some good field reports. See you on The Six!
Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.
Will be doing Business in Soi 7. Hotel that is. Very economical rates.
Actually went to take a look at the girls outside Wood Bar. Not to partake as I don't go to those type of places. Just to see which posters are credible in girl assessment. Hahaha.
Goat seems to have Won the Prize. Not an attractive bunch at all. Has to be below 5 on the ratings scale by maybe 3.5.
ChuchoLoco
11-28-22, 14:45
Don't be worried, it seems to be getting better, and certainly nights are cooler.
The BTS and MRT are air conditioned and a great way to get around. I DEFINITELY recommend spending the 100 baht each for their travel cards, fill up, then top up as needed. I put 1000 baht on each. A month later, when I leave, my BTS will probably have 100 baht left, the MRT 700. No worries, I never try to get money back, just use the next trip. WORST case, the cards expire and you have to pay another 100 baht for a new one, BUT any unused balance from the old IS transferred to the new. DEFINITELY beats having to stand in line for the ticket machines or to get change at the office every time you travel. Just swipe in, travel, swipe out. Taxis are cheap, daytime, start at 35 baht (dead as dodos are the unmetered taxis, all metered for decades), and most have their air conditioning working. But taxis are subject to traffic congestion, while the BTS / MRT are not. I walk, but if tired take a taxi to the BTS station for onward travel..I have to get there, been on my mind for way too long and your input helps a great deal. I have a feeling the night warmth adds to the ambiance of the scene. I'd walk a mile for a camel (toe).
ThaiGoodTimes
11-28-22, 15:14
Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.What an absolutely unbelievable outburst by you.
You are wrong, wrong, wrong.
So now, you triggered at least a response.
If that was your intention, so be it.
TLDR: Lolita's and Kasalong both conveniently located near Nana BTS just adjacent to Soi 8; YMMV with both, but for my money Kasalong has the better lineup at present; Wood Bar on Soi 7/1 has a decent lineup and nice facilities but it's highly transactional approach, with a view towards operational efficiency, may be a turnoff for some; Duangporn's Haven has a laid-back vibe with friendly staff, no pressure, and nice amenities, but be mindful of their queue systemjust pick the one you want or take a pass.
2 EXCELLENT reports and I've taken the liberty to add them to the ROD's. No doubt a forlorn hope that people might read there first, but hope does spring eternal.
Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.Hey, his FIRST trip to Thailand, and watching too many Ytube videos, reading here, and visiting only the adult entertainment scene, easy to think that any Thai female can't wait to jump into your arms, totally overcome by your farangness. Actually, Thai culture is VERY conservative and proper, AND they are NOT stupid. That wai that you see, that takes YEARS of knowing how to do (my advice, don't as you won't know how. Who goes first, how high, how long, etc.). You might not see any Thai Smiles on the street these days, especially Bangkok, as everyone is wearing masks, but learn some words of Thai, be nice and polite, smile, and it comes back to you in spades. But it doesn't happen overnight.
This Star likes getting 5 Squids about once a month from me. I'm ok with it, liked it better when she was on stage pre COVID Topless. Haha,
Mook thinks WTF why am I giving her more? Am I all of a sudden Chopped Liver? Resulting cold shoulder treatment. Mook gets 2 squids per.
Well, Timmie, you got me stumped for sure as I have no idea what 5 squids, 2 squids, are. Myself, tonight I had 7 or 8 squids, but I call them calamari, along with about 15 shrimp, all fried in batter, all spicy with those little red chilis, home cooked meal via some civilian Thai friends. They know I can eat spicy, so it was. Even a salad and they didn't have any trouble opening the container, but we can use sharp objects. So your squid comments went zoom over my head, and if you care to elaborate, feel free (and searching didn't turn up any clarifications, I did try). If not, I'll live.
I have a feeling the night warmth adds to the ambiance of the scene. It doesn't, but today I had to walk at 15:00 to pick up some ice cream to take for desert, and with a breeze, I wasn't drenched. The shop puts a few pieces of dry ice in each foil bag, so it remains frozen until you get back to your frig. What IS really jarring is the Christmas carols everywhere in the heat.
Poor boy! Imagine brown or black women not finding a white man attractive. Impossible!!
It must be the natives that are wrong. They should be grateful for all the white male has done for them.
Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.
ChuchoLoco
11-28-22, 22:19
2 EXCELLENT reports and I've taken the liberty to add them to the ROD's. No doubt a forlorn hope that people might read there first, but hope does spring eternal.
Hey, his FIRST trip to Thailand, and watching too many Ytube videos, reading here, and visiting only the adult entertainment scene, easy to think that any Thai female can't wait to jump into your arms, totally overcome by your farangness. Actually, Thai culture is VERY conservative and proper, AND they are NOT stupid. That wai that you see, that takes YEARS of knowing how to do (my advice, don't as you won't know how. Who goes first, how high, how long, etc.). You might not see any Thai Smiles on the street these days, especially Bangkok, as everyone is wearing masks, but learn some words of Thai, be nice and polite, smile, and it comes back to you in spades. But it doesn't happen overnight.
Well, Timmie, you got me stumped for sure as I have no idea what 5 squids, 2 squids, are. Myself, tonight I had 7 or 8 squids, but I call them calamari, along with about 15 shrimp, all fried in batter, all spicy with those little red chilis, home cooked meal via some civilian Thai friends. They know I can eat spicy, so it was. Even a salad and they didn't have any trouble opening the container, but we can use sharp objects. So your squid comments went zoom over my head, and if you care to elaborate, feel free (and searching didn't turn up any clarifications, I did try). If not, I'll live.
It doesn't, but today I had to walk at 15:00 to pick up some ice cream to take for desert, and with a breeze, I wasn't drenched. The shop puts a few pieces of dry ice in each foil bag, so it remains frozen until you get back to your frig. What IS really jarring is the Christmas carols everywhere in the heat.Yeah, heat and Christmas Carols don't seem to go together very well. But if that's what they grew up with, then snow and Christmas may seem strange to them. Buddhist monks and Christmas Carols, please tell me they don't sing them between meditations.
A clothing tip for people who don't do well in the SE-Asian heat, give Merino Wool t-shirts a go.
Wool is a natural moisture wicking material, which means it absorbs your sweat and it dries very quickly once you reach a cold, dry environment like an air-conditioned place. The natural roughness of wool fibre also prevents bacteria, which is the cause of odours, from growing, keeping you smelling fresh after a day in the sun. They also have the added bonus of being wrikle-free, so the girls won't think you're a slob even if you can't be bothered to fold your clothes.Never would've thought of merino wool to wear in hot summer. What about sweat stains? More or less pronounced than cotton?
2 excellent reports and I've taken the liberty to add them to the ROD's. No doubt a forlorn hope that people might read there first, but hope does spring eternal.
Hey, his FIRST trip to Thailand, and watching too many Ytube videos, reading here, and visiting only the adult entertainment scene, easy to think that any Thai female can't wait to jump into your arms, totally overcome by your farangness. Actually, Thai culture is VERY conservative and proper, AND they are NOT stupid. That wai that you see, that takes YEARS of knowing how to do (my advice, don't as you won't know how. Who goes first, how high, how long, etc.). You might not see any Thai Smiles on the street these days, especially Bangkok, as everyone is wearing masks, but learn some words of Thai, be nice and polite, smile, and it comes back to you in spades. But it doesn't happen overnight.
Well, Timmie, you got me stumped for sure as I have no idea what 5 squids, 2 squids, are. Myself, tonight I had 7 or 8 squids, but I call them calamari, along with about 15 shrimp, all fried in batter, all spicy with those little red chilis, home cooked meal via some civilian Thai friends. They know I can eat spicy, so it was. Even a salad and they didn't have any trouble opening the container, but we can use sharp objects. So your squid comments went zoom over my head, and if you care to elaborate, feel free (and searching didn't turn up any clarifications, I did try). If not, I'll live.
It doesn't, but today I had to walk at 15:00 to pick up some ice cream to take for desert, and with a breeze, I wasn't drenched. The shop puts a few pieces of dry ice in each foil bag, so it remains frozen until you get back to your frig. What IS really jarring is the Christmas carols everywhere in the heat.Thais aren't Stupid. LOL.
On old Thai Visa site I get the impression Thais aren't as a group Smart.
Example always given. You need to go University to work 7-11.
TwilightZoner
11-29-22, 01:25
Poor boy! Imagine brown or black women not finding a white man attractive. Impossible!!
It must be the natives that are wrong. They should be grateful for all the white male has done for them.I wonder what the 'instructional videos were. Creampie Thai? Tuktuk patrol?
Most 'adult entertainment' advice were from this forum and I thank you all for that.
Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.I have to agree with you, I spent about two months in Thailand, mostly in BKK and Pattaya and had the same experience, absolutely no luck with dating. The first time I went to Thailand was in 2017 and it was decent for dating as long as your standards were not crazy high. But this time around it seems as though the dating game is done in Thailand for the average farang. I still love Thailand for simple and convenient P4P, but for dating I am going to have to go elsewhere.
Will be doing Business in Soi 7. Hotel that is. Very economical rates.
Actually went to take a look at the girls outside Wood Bar. Not to partake as I don't go to those type of places. Just to see which posters are credible in girl assessment. Hahaha.
Goat seems to have Won the Prize. Not an attractive bunch at all. Has to be below 5 on the ratings scale by maybe 3.5.Wood Bar doesn't have any attractive women, I went a bunch of times and it's all the same, older and average or below looking. Having said that, it's good value for 800 baht for a quick blow and go.
HolsterMike
11-29-22, 07:31
Visited some touristy places in the day. Was tired by the time I returned around 7 pm.
Got some rest and got an awesome foot massage. Must say these people have some talent in massaging.
Hit nana after that and bar fined a chick. Spent some quality time and did not pay upfront like yesterday (lesson learned).
Regular questions form chick and mamasan. Thanks to 11 Bravo. Had some standard answers.
Something I observed: Quality of girls in bars are good between 11 and 12:30 ish. Then it starts going down!
HolsterMike
11-29-22, 07:40
Visited Soi cowboy around 8 pm. Obviously less crowd and went to a karaoke bar (near to one of the entrance).
Couple of girls were staring and so started a conversation and got some drinks for them.
One of the hot ones (& the short one) started dancing and I was having a good time with her.
I wanted to take her to the hotel and asked her for the damage $. She said that she isn't one of those girls! I apologized and continued partying (& hopping bars).
Around 10:30 she decided to leave and I offered her with dinner plans in my room and surprisingly she agreed!
She wanted Indian food and got some 'Togo' and had food and started cuddling after that.
What followed was as an amazing amazing night!. DATY, BBBJ, in the balcony, CIM, multiple rounds.
She had her game on with foreplay!
Slept around 4:30 am. She woke me up at 7:30 and said she wants to leave. I politely offered her some money but she refused.
She typed in Google translator that she had a great night and she did not want to share the number as she has a boyfriend!
No $ Damage except for bills paid in bars which was less than 1500 THB.
Onto Pattaya! But this encounter will be memorable for sometime!
Explorer8939
11-29-22, 08:35
Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.Au contraire. If you are a young hansum man, they are very interested. Otherwise, your money is very interesting to them.
Oneminuteboy
11-29-22, 10:35
Some reports from my trip in BKK. Lost my phone so I could not post as I was there.
Arrival
We arrived 20 min later. Exited at the and went to through immigration. There was a queue which eventually took 30 min to get through. I waited at the wrong belt for 10 min before I realised I what was wrong. *.
On my way to the right belt I switched clothing from long pants to Shorts and a tshirt. At the belt my bag was already there so it was a quick exit. This started a long process.
I went all the way down. Exchanged 50 for enough cash. Tried to find Klook for my rabbit card. Spend 15 doing this as the staff didn't know until I found one who did. It's on the 4th floor behind the Singapore desk.
Left the airport which was smooth. Made a switch and exited at Nana. It wasn't until later that day I realised how lucky I got picking this spot to stay at. *.
As you left the station girls from a nearby massage greater me. I could see lady boys so avoided the place. *.
Check-in as Adelphi Suites got the room and went to the money exchange on the corner. It's a Super Rich. Soi 8 also has a few bars and massage.
(these are voice written notes edited).
Day 1 (BKK) - Tulip
After checking in I went straight to Tulip and just like written down on another site hard to spot. Hidden under the station. You only notice it when you were right in front of it. When I entered the place it looked like is was badly maintained and I only saw 40+ aged ladies. The mama san she walked with me to the desk. She said how long you want. I said that one and a half hours and it was one lady standing ready to go with me.
I wanted to pick a lady and then she rang the bell and about four ladies were ready standing. There were a few hiding behind a door. I saw one girl that caught my interest but it didn't want to pick her. So I said to Mama-san. Which one you recommend and she looked at me she didn't understand. Then I asked is Golf here she said 'No golf is on holiday'. I said Okay you have recommendation and she pointed at the girl that I initially wanted. We went upstairs and you could see the lady was nervous because she was afraid that I might be be too big and I noticed that the place didn't look that nice and when I got to the room I was thinking Okay. This isn't really my environment to do this but let's go with the flow so she got some stuff we shower together.
She washed me and she was joking around. She asked massage first or sex and I said no sex first so she gave me a blowjob she took like half of it in her mouth. No teeth felt then she wanted to. Sadly fake moans combined with some real ones. I said Yeah I want to finish in your mouth so then we switch and she was giving me a blowjob and just as I was coming. She pulled it on her breast and I said No in your mouth. She wasn't really trying to take it in her mouth so I didn't get to come in her mouth as I wanted.
We showered again and she gave me a massage. She wanted sex again and asked Don't you want to fuck my ass. I said I don't do anal and she smiled and said good because you big. She kissed my ass few times but she wasn't really rimming. Sex again but didn't come. She finished the massage.
We exchanged line information and she was happy because I was her fifth customer and I was nice according to her. I was rather passive. I wasn't constantly groping her. I just like seeing how things would go and she texted me a few more times so I would come back tomorrow she would eat my ass put.
Damage 2100 for 90 minutes.
Day 1 - Freelancer #1
Went to the mall and grabbed some food. I could see Bangkok was really made for consumers. A lot of people on their phone and food everywhere. A lot of malls as well. *.
Grabbed some stuff from the grocery store at Central 21*.
I reached out to one of the freelancers from TF.
https://www.thaifriendly.com/mint1701
She arrived at my hotel after a quick message. She a bit more chubby in her face than on the pictures. Got her some beer from 7/11.
She had a friend working at a bar across of my hotel that he was ladyboy and then she joked that she was a ladyboy too and I looked at her apparently she gets asked that alit. She didn't have the look I've see from LB thus far.
Started talking in the room here she told me she wanted to get buzzed before sex. Which made thing a bit awkward for me. Asked her if she enjoyed and you could see she was hesitant and said sometimes. *.
Went on for a bit before I said let's shower. She wanted to shower alone. Started stroking, we kissed but it wasn't DFK. Had sex she enjoyed it and got more relaxed. She gave me a tip only blowjob. Tried to go a bit dieper but immediately felt the teeth. Switched to full sex with condom. After a while I stopped she wanted me to come but I told her it wasn't important. She didn't know I just blew a load 2-3 hours before. And I also just wanted to check her off my list. Damage: 1500
I decided that I wanted to go to one of the clubs nearby so we started wrapping up and she went to the bar of her friend and I went to the club.
At the Sugar Club it was nice. Seems its two clubs in one.
After a while left and tipped one of the door guys. I do this in Amsterdam as well.
TravellerXX83
11-29-22, 12:58
I decided that I wanted to go to one of the clubs nearby so we started wrapping up and she went to the bar of her friend and I went to the club.
At the Sugar Club it was nice. Seems its two clubs in one.
After a while left and tipped one of the door guys. I do this in Amsterdam as well.How was Sugar Club? Were there a lot of freelancers?
TravellerXX83
11-29-22, 12:59
Has anyone recently been to Mixx? How is it after Covid? Can one recommend or better go to Levels or Sugar Club?
I have to agree with you, I spent about two months in Thailand, mostly in BKK and Pattaya and had the same experience, absolutely no luck with dating. The first time I went to Thailand was in 2017 and it was decent for dating as long as your standards were not crazy high. But this time around it seems as though the dating game is done in Thailand for the average farang. I still love Thailand for simple and convenient P4P, but for dating I am going to have to go elsewhere.Thanks for your reply, I even invited one who was working in the Capella Bangkok where I stayed, for shopping in the Icon Siam without any obligation. I was talking to buy her Louboutins shoes, the real ones, no fakes, around 1000 USD. She kindly refused.
Forget about classic T-shirts or shirts, they're much too hot. The pic shows what you should wear in Thailand. The flimsiest of cotton. You can buy them on the islands and in Pattaya, not sure about Bangkok.
Also, short trousers, NO SOCKS, bare-foot in cheap plastic open shoes or sandals you can buy anywhere.
The BTS is unfortunately much too cold to be healthy after the outdoor heat. Why is it kept so chilly? My hunch is because they want the smells given off by people not to be noticeable, an instance of Thai saving face.That's a bit too informal for me. Columbia Taimiami II long sleeves (keep the sun off you), convertible pants (I like Bean, REI and Marmot) and Keen closed toe sandals with socks. Perfect outfit for all over SE Asia and dressy enough to keep the BIBs away in the days before the Devils Lettuce was legal. Plus the girls like it better because in the hierarchy, shoes rate higher than exposed toes.
Can't even get into some places with shorts.
Depending on where you are, open shoes can be dangerous. Step on a piece of glass in a flood, or scrape those little piggies somewhere and the next thing you know you are festering. I've seen that more than once, quite yuck.
So what if sweat drips down the crack of your ass? You will shower first.
I normally stay at the Nana Hotel, but was wondering if the Hyatt Regency is girl friendly?
Anybody know.
Thanks.
Thanks for your reply, I even invited one who was working in the Capella Bangkok where I stayed, for shopping in the Icon Siam without any obligation. I was talking to buy her Louboutins shoes, the real ones, no fakes, around 1000 USD. She kindly refused.Normal people would think outrageous buys by strangers include strings attached.
I have to agree with you, I spent about two months in Thailand, mostly in BKK and Pattaya and had the same experience, absolutely no luck with dating. The first time I went to Thailand was in 2017 and it was decent for dating as long as your standards were not crazy high. But this time around it seems as though the dating game is done in Thailand for the average farang. I still love Thailand for simple and convenient P4P, but for dating I am going to have to go elsewhere.Back in the late 90-s I "dated" a hotel receptionist for a week or so. She had a motorbike and went out of her way driving us far away from that Sukhumvit place I stayed at. When I invited her to a restaurant in the neighborhood, she said she can't be seen with a farang or people would think she's a hoar. And she was very proud that she wasn't and had a good job.
And OMG the way she rode in Bangkok! Put a fear of god in me every single time, LOL.
That's a bit too informal for me. Columbia Taimiami II long sleeves (keep the sun off you), convertible pants (I like Bean, REI and Marmot) and Keen closed toe sandals with socks. Perfect outfit for all over SE Asia and dressy enough to keep the BIBs away in the days before the Devils Lettuce was legal. Plus the girls like it better because in the hierarchy, shoes rate higher than exposed toes.
Can't even get into some places with shorts.
Depending on where you are, open shoes can be dangerous. Step on a piece of glass in a flood, or scrape those little piggies somewhere and the next thing you know you are festering. I've seen that more than once, quite yuck.
So what if sweat drips down the crack of your ass? You will shower first.My primary concern is sun protection, so no shorts for me except inside. My blinding white legs would be a traffic hazard to oncoming traffic. LL Bean Tropicwear shirts; the chest pockets deep enough to hold my mobile phone and velcro close the pocket securely. Fast dryiing, easy to wash, hang to dry wrinkle free. Railriders VersaTec Ultra Light pants, large cargo pockets; work in the heat AND in the "cool", very effective at stopping wind. Again, easy to wash, quick drying, hang to dry, wrinkle free. Have worn shirts and pants all over the world. Not really dress, at least the pants, but then again, I don't normally go to fancy dress establishments. Teva sandals, F1 and Hurricane.
P.S. I don't hate Thais.
Vanuatu, Mongolia, Myanmar, Vietnam, Iraq, Uzbeks,. What do all have in common.
They have higher IQs. Than Somchai and Nit, Nat Nut, etc.I think independent WGs who can travel to a totally foreign country (completely different language, customs, etc.) to work must possess a certain level of intellect and courage. I have met some pretty smart Thais and Filipinas in Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Europe. These women do not need to work in bars and brothels at home or abroad like Geylang in Singapore. My 2 cents.
I have to agree with you, I spent about two months in Thailand, mostly in BKK and Pattaya and had the same experience, absolutely no luck with dating. The first time I went to Thailand was in 2017 and it was decent for dating as long as your standards were not crazy high. But this time around it seems as though the dating game is done in Thailand for the average farang. I still love Thailand for simple and convenient P4P, but for dating I am going to have to go elsewhere.
Thanks for your reply, I even invited one who was working in the Capella Bangkok where I stayed, for shopping in the Icon Siam without any obligation. I was talking to buy her Louboutins shoes, the real ones, no fakes, around 1000 USD. She kindly refused.Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault?
Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??
What followed was as an amazing amazing night!. DATY, BBBJ, in the balcony, CIM, multiple rounds.
She had her game on with foreplay!
Slept around 4:30 am. She woke me up at 7:30 and said she wants to leave. I politely offered her some money but she refused.
She typed in Google translator that she had a great night and she did not want to share the number as she has a boyfriend!
No $ Damage except for bills paid in bars which was less than 1500 THB.
Onto Pattaya! But this encounter will be memorable for sometime!GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL.
It's memories like this that last a lifetime.
Regular questions form chick and mamasan. Thanks to 11 Bravo. Had some standard answers.!Once you've gotten the hang of it, try this: when asked how long you've been in Thailand, answer this is your FIRST time, you just arrived last night. Her eyes will spin around like a slot machine's wheels. See how long it takes for her to realize you're just joking with her. The key to having a good time is to keep it light and fun.
I think independent WGs who can travel to a totally foreign country (completely different language, customs, etc.) to work must possess a certain level of intellect and courage. I have met some pretty smart Thais and Filipinas in Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Europe. These women do not need to work in bars and brothels at home or abroad like Geylang in Singapore. My 2 cents.Got that right. Imagine going to a country where you don't speak the native language, little English, and what you're doing is illegal; NO help from the police, taken advantage of by everyone. In DXB, I knew a superstar PRC, Cyclone (and anyone who recognizes the name immediately understands the significance). When she arrived, her English was (You want me? Yes, No, I love you, with a yellow posty note with her phone number on it). 6 years later, she could fully carry on a conversation in English, she made 120 K USD a year, had learned to drive (and in DXB, that's difficult, lot of lessons), and bought herself a car. Sporadic and I both agreed if she had been born in the US, she would have been the CEO of a mid-level company.
Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault? Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??LOL.
Thais aren't Stupid. LOL. On old Thai Visa site I get the impression Thais aren't as a group Smart.Smart enough to separate you from your money, and, judging by your FR's, by simply making eye contact. Timmie, you're not riding the pine, you're up in the bleachers.
As I entered the eerily quiet Patpong, I saw a sign saying that the night market will restart on December 5. So whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, the days of eerily quiet are apparently numbered.
Cherry. Sukhumvit Soi 24/1.
2 curvacious girls outside giving the come Hither look.
Avg weight 275 pounds. Hahaha.
Maybe Sisters?
My primary concern is sun protection, so no shorts for me except inside. My blinding white legs would be a traffic hazard to oncoming traffic. LL Bean Tropicwear shirts; the chest pockets deep enough to hold my mobile phone and velcro close the pocket securely. Fast dryiing, easy to wash, hang to dry wrinkle free. Railriders VersaTec Ultra Light pants, large cargo pockets; work in the heat AND in the "cool", very effective at stopping wind. Again, easy to wash, quick drying, hang to dry, wrinkle free. Have worn shirts and pants all over the world. Not really dress, at least the pants, but then again, I don't normally go to fancy dress establishments. Teva sandals, F1 and Hurricane.That outfit would have got you in virtually everywhere and makes you stand out among the touristy wife beaters shirts and soccer jerseys and clothes best suited to a beach.
Because I have other things to do during the days and evenings beyond satisfying my quite easy to satisfy cucumber of lust, sometimes I find myself sitting in a girlie venue with shorts and hiking boots, backpack and walking sticks, just back from a trip, looking like a wore out mangy old explorer absolutely unique among a sea of fake designer bags and clothes and beachwear.
While that doesn't affect the predatory tourist loving girls, gets me lot of attention from the partimers, semi pros, students, tribal girl, especially when I can say, "oh, from (insert city here)? I was there last week."
I never live anywhere near the tourist action so my presence there is either on the way back from somewhere or on an occasional well dressed (dark pants) night.
Even in Thailand, clothes make the man. Try not to look like a tourist even if you are.
Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault?
Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??I don't know what your $1,000 incentive means as I'm talking about dating, not p4 p. As far as dating in Thailand, it's difficult to pull good looking girls for dating these days, I'd say most guys would attest to that. The mask wearing doesn't help as it creates a physical and social barrier to day game. If you need to give a girl a "$1,000" incentive then that is p4p, not dating.
I don't know what your $1,000 incentive means as I'm talking about dating, not p4 p. As far as dating in Thailand, it's difficult to pull good looking girls for dating these days, I'd say most guys would attest to that. The mask wearing doesn't help as it creates a physical and social barrier to day game. If you need to give a girl a "$1,000" incentive then that is p4p, not dating.I'd include that into my seconds paragraph: Golds' offer of $1000 "shoes" for a date or more to a Good Girl clearly didn't end well. Confusing a civilian for a hooker rarely does.
I'd agree that masks and the whole paranoia around meeting strangers certainly doesn't help.
StreamFlyer
12-01-22, 10:30
Since this is the Bangkok page, it might be more biased. However, I wanted some opinions on how to split up this 20 day Thailand trip. Should I do 10 Bangkok and 10 in Pattaya? Any tips or experiences you'd want to share would be greatly appreciated. TIA.
-SF.
Just left BKK after almost a week. Mongered in Germany and Switzerland before, having spent much of my adult life there but first time in SE Asia.
Day 1- Arrived early evening. I knew I was going to be tired, so I had arranged for a girl from Massage republic earlier that day while still traving. She showed up on time. Same girl as the photos, but a few pounds heavier. Decent BBBJ and lay. 3000 baht damage.
Day two- Out and about. Go to Madame Claudes, which is an upscale BJ place. Choose girl from Ipad and pay 1300 baht. Girl took me to room and washed my dong. Between the mouth wash, and baby oil that she used to start a HJ, my dick was almost numb. Tried to force myself to cum, not sure if it was an almost cum, or just weak.
Messaged girl on Massage republic that supposedly could bring a girlfriend on request. They showed up on time. Similar deal to the last one. Same girl, just a bit heavier. The two girls provided decent service, but didn't so any Lesbian stuff. So a normal PSE three some with two random girls. Would not repeat. * Damage, 10 K.
Day three-.
I hit Soi Cowboy in the evening. Go to "Dollhouse". A few cuties. Have a couple drinks, then wander down to Nana. Go to Angelwitch. No girls catch my eye, and Mamason was a little pushy, as I nursed my drink. Left. Walked the gauntlet, down the main drag. Checked out a few beer bars on Soi7 and 7-1, but between no girls catching my eye, and agressive ladyboys grabbing my junk, I left without getting a drink.
Went to Thermae. Staff made me buy a drink as soon as I entered. Place was filled with cute girls, almost all of them looking like normal girls, not working girls. A cute girl with glasses and dyed hair caught my eye. Took her back for 3 K. Had to stop and get rubbers, as she didn't have one. Told me all her previous clients were Asian. * In the room, she was a little shy, and wouldn't budge from CBJ. She must have had a IUD or similar, as while banging, I bottomed out if I went too hard. Made my dick hurt after we were done. Wouldn't repeat.
Day four-.
Went to "Wood bar" about lunchtime. Paid 800 up front. Girl wasnt a looker, but "no chick is ugly when is she sucking your dick" . Facilities were a little cheap, even for Thailand. What followed was the worst blowjob of my life. Teeth, little suction, and fast dry hand action. With a little bit of instruction, managed to make it unpainful and forced myself to cum. * Leaving with a sore dick, I took the rest of the day off.
Day five.
After considering becoming a monk, headed to Soi Cowboy, and back to Dollhouse. Same basic lineup. A cutie that was taller, and had an innocent look to her caught my eye. After some eye contact, she came over and asked if I would by her a drink. She saw me as the sucker I was, and stayed with me,* asking for a lady drink every 30 minutes. In return, she sat and danced on my lap, teased my cock, and so forth. After a bit, she asked me to bar fine her, but said to wait until 11 as the bar fine dropped to 800 from 1600. Didn't matter, as she racked my bill with bar fine to 2400. Cost to bring her back was 4 K. Kmew that was over paying, but said fuck it. Said she was 24, and what followed was on the line between PSE / GFE with kissing and a little bit of shyness. . Head wasnt the greatest. After we were done, she was in a hurry to go back to the bar, but was a little disappointed that I didn't want to go back.
Day six-.
Last night in Bangkok, so I threw common sense out the window and went back to Dollhouse at about 830. The girl from the night before was already sitting with some young Asian dude,* and he appeared to bar fine her. She seemed to try to hide it from me, which I thought was a little funny. About an hour later, she came back and tried to play it off like she was up stairs. Same deal as before, she wanted lady drinks in return for sitting on my lap, riding my dick, etc. Wanted to get barfined at 11 again. No mention of her price. Back in the room, it was closer to GFE, where she expected to get eaten out. First time I have had a hooker expect it.
Anyways, she left after we were done. As I am going to be in Bangkok again in a couple weeks, she gave me her LINE ID.
Long story short, I was a little bit disappointed in Bangkok. But such is life.
Since this is the Bangkok page, it might be more biased. However, I wanted some opinions on how to split up this 20 day Thailand trip. Should I do 10 Bangkok and 10 in Pattaya? Any tips or experiences you'd want to share would be greatly appreciated. TIA.
-SF.They are not that far apart. Do a couple of days in Bangkok and then head to Pattaya for a couple of days and see which one you like best. I spent to much time in China, so I personally hate overcrowded Asian cities. But that is just me. Some people prefer the bright lights and big city. The key is to relax and have fun. Too much planning spoils the fun.
OMG. . Rainbow 5 was basically Standing Room Only Last night Friday.
Saw a little Black girl. Cute -ish. No Silly Cones, decent small- ish tittie's.
Think she would be a Star on Pattaya Soi 6. Might struggle at Rainbow 5. Hahaha.
I'd include that into my seconds paragraph: Golds' offer of $1000 "shoes" for a date or more to a Good Girl clearly didn't end well. Confusing a civilian for a hooker rarely does.
I'd agree that masks and the whole paranoia around meeting strangers certainly doesn't help.
Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault?
Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??I'd have to agree with Goferring. Even if you're just looking for dating and no ppm, I can understand why it might take some time to get on track, but some introspection and modifications about one's approach should easily do the trick. Or maybe BKK just isn't the right fit for some dudes.
Just left BKK after almost a week. Mongered in Germany and Switzerland before, having spent much of my adult life there but first time in SE Asia.
Messaged girl on Massage republic that supposedly could bring a girlfriend on request. They showed up on time. Similar deal to the last one. Same girl, just a bit heavier. The two girls provided decent service, but didn't so any Lesbian stuff. So a normal PSE three some with two random girls. Would not repeat. * Damage, 10 K.10 K for that! Was your calculator malfunctioning when you ordered?
After considering becoming a monk, headed to Soi Cowboy, and back to Dollhouse. Same basic lineup. A cutie that was taller, and had an innocent look to her caught my eye. After some eye contact, she came over and asked if I would by her a drink. She saw me as the sucker I was, and stayed with me,* asking for a lady drink every 30 minutes. In return, she sat and danced on my lap, teased my cock, and so forth. After a bit, she asked me to bar fine her, but said to wait until 11 as the bar fine dropped to 800 from 1600. Didn't matter, as she racked my bill with bar fine to 2400. Cost to bring her back was 4 K. Kmew that was over paying, but said fuck it. Said she was 24, and what followed was on the line between PSE / GFE with kissing and a little bit of shyness. . Head wasnt the greatest. After we were done, she was in a hurry to go back to the bar, but was a little disappointed that I didn't want to go back..Let me get this straight: You dropped 6400 (drinks + BF) for a ST and not an overnight? And then you went back?? And you expect her to risk losing another customer just to be polite and run over to you?
Look, not to be too hard on you, but I'd suggest that you learn and adapt. You must have built some unrealistic expectations based on reports you read before your first trip. Most guys write glowing reports once they've earned the good experiences, but the bad experiences are there too.
You're bound to be disappointed in BKK after this week, and I think BKK may, in turn, be disappointed in you. There's no point sitting around a go go club with the same girl sitting on your lap for 2-3 hours. You need to ask what the BF / minimum drink policy is as you enter so that you can politely move on to another establishment if you don't accept the terms (no worries, I also learned the hard way). And I suggest you make your decision during the first drink and go forward with the BF or leave.
And you'd also need to learn some lessons about the outcalls and adjust to make it better bang for the baht. Did you do your research before your trip?
Seriously, the prices / conditions are getting tougher and tougher for the lot of us because guys (like you, yes) are not learning how to work / negotiate / walk away. Now I'm going to go there in 2 weeks and Dollhouse and your GF there are going to have their newly inflated expectations reinforced. Thanks a lot! But don't blame Bangkok.
Just left BKK after almost a week. Mongered in Germany and Switzerland before, having spent much of my adult life there but first time in SE Asia.
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Long story short, I was a little bit disappointed in Bangkok. But such is life.Well done, 3 posts, 2 questions and 1 solid FR. Just learn from your mistakes, 1st time, everybody makes them. You might want to check out some of the ROD's (reports of distinction thread) to check out other avenues (or is that sois), of entertainment, and for some lessons learned. Sounds like you were doing the math, but a lady drink every 30 minutes adds up for YOU, superseding the potential cost savings of a late hour bar fine, just to keep her anchored to you until you're ready to leave. Why? Agree with Volterra, she comes over, talks, she should be auditioning for YOU. See how her attitude is to you, but simply liking you for the drinks, you're a mark. Save the fiddly bits for your room where you can get serious. AND she's blocking your landing slot for other circling aircraft; no one else is going to cut in. Just make a note of her tail number, check out some others, and when YOU're ready to leave, call the top one over, make an offer. If a no, "next"....
That outfit would have got you in virtually everywhere and makes you stand out among the touristy wife beaters shirts and soccer jerseys and clothes best suited to a beach.
Because I have other things to do during the days and evenings beyond satisfying my quite easy to satisfy cucumber of lust, sometimes I find myself sitting in a girlie venue with shorts and hiking boots, backpack and walking sticks, just back from a trip, looking like a wore out mangy old explorer absolutely unique among a sea of fake designer bags and clothes and beachwear.
While that doesn't affect the predatory tourist loving girls, gets me lot of attention from the partimers, semi pros, students, tribal girl, especially when I can say, "oh, from (insert city here)? I was there last week."
I never live anywhere near the tourist action so my presence there is either on the way back from somewhere or on an occasional well dressed (dark pants) night.
Even in Thailand, clothes make the man. Try not to look like a tourist even if you are.A tip of my hat (Columbia) to you. This trip, my Teva boots have remained on the balcony. But certainly a lot more to see in Thailand than Bangkok's Nana, Cowboy, Sukhumvit sois 22,23, 24,26, 31, and Pattaya. You just have to get out and about for a much different perspective. I have to admit, for a long time, I thought walking sticks were a gimmick, an affectation. Then 7 years ago, when the Chinese mountains seemed to grow higher and steeper, I got myself one. I could instantly see the wisdom. Now have 2, an active and a backup. Don't leave home without it.
Safe Journey.
My take on an Agogo girl who sits with a guy for 3 hours getting a drink every half hour.
If there are 25 girls on the clock. She must be off the charts unattractive. Hahaha. Yards behind number 24 in looks. Nothing else makes Sense.
These girls want Barfines not a drink every 30 minutes.
TwilightZoner
12-03-22, 21:06
So, after a long time coming, I finally landed in Bangkok. As informed, it was hot and humid but I wasn't bothered. I just wanted to carry out my plan of action and start my vacation of gluttony and debauchery. But as the saying goes, "The best laid plans of mice and men. ".
The hotel that I've booked in was a little disappointing. Only a little. The room itself is ok but the hotel itself felt a bit rundown but hey, the bed was super comfy!
I seriously don't know how you guys do it. Straight off the tarmac and off to get the rocks off! By the time I got to my room, I was completely worn out! That's just probably me getting old though! So all I did on my first day in Bangkok was get some food, change some cash and sleep.
Day 2.
I'm not sure when or how it happened but my desire for 2 weeks of sex and debauchery somehow faded into the ether. Or at least the urgency for it. I'm smack in the middle of a city where sex is so readily available, I didn't feel the need to rush. So. I rejigged my plans. I headed off the get the pharmaceutical aids that would assist my staying power at Southeast Pharmacy then off to MBK. Part of the plan was to get a suit made. Ended up getting 2. (curse me for lacking willpower! After some food and rest, I changed more money and off I went! My first punt of my trip!!
I went off to Daisy Dream. Took me a while to locate the establishment but found it in the end thanks to Google Maps. I was ushered in and introduced to the mamasan. Chose the package and she called for a line up. The ladies, about 20 of them, were ok I guess. There were some pretty ones and there were 3 really hot ones. Of course, I made the mistake of picking just a pretty one only because of assumed chemistry on my part but.
So, the package I picked was a one hour Nuru session. Never had one so I thought I'd give it a go. All I can say is the experience was. Average at best. Apparently, the lady that I picked was relatively new to the place and quite inexperienced. The massage itself, while pleasant, felt rushed. It was adequate, I guess, as I did get my rocks off but that nagging feeling at the back of my head of something lacking.
At this point, I won't make a judgement regarding Nuru massage. I might try Doki Doki to see if it's different. Maybe the next time I will pick a hotter lady, after all, I'm allowed to be selfish when it comes to my pleasure. I might even return to Daisy to try one of the other ladies too.
I'm realizing that my planned vacation of sex and debauchery has morphed into something else. I can't and won't rush off to all the playgrounds, popping pills and rushing sex. I'm realizing that I want the intimacy and chemistry that comes with the act. I guess I'll have to bide my time in these pursuits. In any case, I will still indulge in food and shopping and the tourist things!
Hope I didn't bore you all and will be back soon!
So, after a long time coming, I finally landed in Bangkok. As informed, it was hot and humid but I wasn't bothered. I just wanted to carry out my plan of action and start my vacation of gluttony and debauchery. But as the saying goes, "The best laid plans of mice and men. ".
The hotel that I've booked in was a little disappointing. Only a little. The room itself is ok but the hotel itself felt a bit rundown but hey, the bed was super comfy!
I seriously don't know how you guys do it. Straight off the tarmac and off to get the rocks off! By the time I got to my room, I was completely worn out! That's just probably me getting old though! So all I did on my first day in Bangkok was get some food, change some cash and sleep.
Day 2.
I'm not sure when or how it happened but my desire for 2 weeks of sex and debauchery somehow faded into the ether. Or at least the urgency for it. I'm smack in the middle of a city where sex is so readily available, I didn't feel the need to rush. So. I rejigged my plans. I headed off the get the pharmaceutical aids that would assist my staying power at Southeast Pharmacy then off to MBK. Part of the plan was to get a suit made. Ended up getting 2. (curse me for lacking willpower! After some food and rest, I changed more money and off I went! My first punt of my trip!!You might as well Forget chemistry. That happens over multiple sessions over months.
So, after a long time coming, I finally landed in Bangkok. As informed, it was hot and humid but I wasn't bothered. I just wanted to carry out my plan of action and start my vacation of gluttony and debauchery. But as the saying goes, "The best laid plans of mice and men. ".
I seriously don't know how you guys do it. Straight off the tarmac and off to get the rocks off! By the time I got to my room, I was completely worn out! That's just probably me getting old though! So all I did on my first day in Bangkok was get some food, change some cash and sleep.
I'm realizing that my planned vacation of sex and debauchery has morphed into something else. I can't and won't rush off to all the playgrounds, popping pills and rushing sex. I'm realizing that I want the intimacy and chemistry that comes with the act. I guess I'll have to bide my time in these pursuits. In any case, I will still indulge in food and shopping and the tourist things!
Hope I didn't bore you all and will be back soon!Hey, there's lots to experience in Bkk the first time other than just debauchery. It's an amazing place for lots of reasons, so acclimate yourself and enjoy the touring first. I know what you mean: I read reports from some of our fellow heathen and just don't know how they pack so much debauchery into one trip. I pace myself. Usually indulging once every 3 or 4 days so I can still chill and regain juice for the next girl.
Keep in mind that not everyone gets the fever or addiction right away. Maybe you don't feel much the first week or even month, but then one day you're walking innocently down the sidewalk, and suddenly, boom!, that ass wiggly in front of you knocks you between the eyes, and then you just got to have it!
Or maybe you have 3 or 4 bad punts and are ready to give up, but you decide to sneak one in just before you get on your plane home and it finally hits you just right because you let yourself loose only when you knew you were leaving. Then you find yourself back home and your LB is aching to get back to Bkk for more, so the 2nd trip is when you're rampaging out of control like these other superstars.
Whatever you do, don't ruin the whole trip because of a couple listless punts. Bkk can still provide plenty of thrills. Spicy food, cold drinks, outdoor markets, indoor malls. And beautiful girls.
So, after a long time coming, I finally landed in Bangkok. As informed, it was hot and humid but I wasn't bothered. I just wanted to carry out my plan of action and start my vacation of gluttony and debauchery. But as the saying goes, "The best laid plans of mice and men. ".
The hotel that I've booked in was a little disappointing. Only a little. The room itself is ok but the hotel itself felt a bit rundown but hey, the bed was super comfy!Great Report. You will always have a better time if you be yourself and do what makes you happy.
So, after a long time coming, I finally landed in Bangkok. As informed, it was hot and humid but I wasn't bothered. I just wanted to carry out my plan of action and start my vacation of gluttony and debauchery. But as the saying goes, "The best laid plans of mice and men. ".
The hotel that I've booked in was a little disappointing. Only a little. The room itself is ok but the hotel itself felt a bit rundown but hey, the bed was super comfy!
I and will be back soon!Great FR. On mobile so this will be short. Check out ROD's, Reports of Distinction, for some places to enjoy various experiences, noting prices.
Like you, the neru thing never really thrilled me (Doki Doki twice, Kokoro once, but the session at Kokoro was enjoyable. I took a look at their website and booked a lady I found attractive, one data point, picture accurate. Booked as it is popular. Check thread for FR.). I always visit Tulip, FR on that thread. As we discussed, Sakura. After, walk up a block to Soi 55/ Soi 8 Foodland, in the basement, sit at the counter in the restaurant, and have a nam-a-now soda (lime squash with soda water), very refreshing. On Soi 13, Ampersand, great gelato.
Finally, next trip, look at serviced apartments. For decades, I used Royal President, Sukhumvit Soi 15. Can't say anything about current condition or prices, but you might check it out.
Nite_Runner
12-04-22, 17:44
Volterra is absolutely correct. These girls do this for a living and are far more street-wise than many give them credit for. They know those that have been there before and those are "cherries".
These girls are in the bars 10-12 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. They have hours upon hours of practice on perfecting the craft of extracting the most they can for the least amount of effort. While they may be uneducated and speak broken English, do not mistake this to mean they are stupid, far from it. Most of them will have you summed up long before you order your first drink.
N_r.
10 K for that! Was your calculator malfunctioning when you ordered?
Let me get this straight: You dropped 6400 (drinks + BF) for a ST and not an overnight? And then you went back?? And you expect her to risk losing another customer just to be polite and run over to you?
Look, not to be too hard on you, but I'd suggest that you learn and adapt. You must have built some unrealistic expectations based on reports you read before your first trip. Most guys write glowing reports once they've earned the good experiences, but the bad experiences are there too.
You're bound to be disappointed in BKK after this week, and I think BKK may, in turn, be disappointed in you. There's no point sitting around a go go club with the same girl sitting on your lap for 2-3 hours. You need to ask what the BF / minimum drink policy is as you enter so that you can politely move on to another establishment if you don't accept the terms (no worries, I also learned the hard way). And I suggest you make your decision during the first drink and go forward with the BF or leave.
And you'd also need to learn some lessons about the outcalls and adjust to make it better bang for the baht. Did you do your research before your trip?
Seriously, the prices / conditions are getting tougher and tougher for the lot of us because guys (like you, yes) are not learning how to work / negotiate / walk away. Now I'm going to go there in 2 weeks and Dollhouse and your GF there are going to have their newly inflated expectations reinforced. Thanks a lot! But don't blame Bangkok.
I wanted some opinions on how to split up this 20 day Thailand trip. Should I do 10 Bangkok and 10 in Pattaya? Any tips or experiences you'd want to share would be greatly appreciated.One thing you should consider is how you prefer to spend your time when you're AREN'T being a naughty boy. Are you a foodie? A shopper? A museum goer? Wanting to see temples and other cultural sites? Then you'll probably want to tilt toward Bangkok. Or do you prefer to spend your down time with a cold drink close at hand while watching the world pass by in a tiny little bar off the beaten path? Maybe watching the waves roll ashore while lounging in a comfortable beach chair under an umbrella? Or perhaps day drinking with your mates (new or old) in a beer bar or gentleman's club? In that case, Pattaya will probably appeal.
I live in a big city and enjoy the intense vibe very much. But on holiday I prefer to chill out. Pattaya's laid back beach vibe appeals to me, so I always start my holiday there. Wandering around town in my shorts and whiling away the hours doing whatever strikes my fancy just lowers my blood pressure. That said, I eventually get bored. So I transfer my flag to Bangkok at the end of my trip. My personal preference runs toward waifish girls who have not spoiled their looks with cosmetic surgery and/or tattoos, and I find more of those girls in Bangkok. I also enjoy shopping for electronic stuff and always find time to go that in the big malls. Finally, my flight home is a long one and it's nice to be closer to the airport when the time comes to leave.
Bunky
TwilightZoner
12-04-22, 20:53
Thank you all for your words of wisdom and encouragement. I will definitely take heed of your advice.
Just a quick update for now.
Day 3.
Got up bright and early and headed of to Chatuchak Weekend Market. Wow, that place is amazing and next level shopping! Spent 3. 5 hours there and some money and still didn't manage to cover a fifth of the place!! My legs were shot and my back was aching so I called it a day and headed back. This challenge isn't done as I still have one more weekend in BKK.
After dropping of my haul and having a brief rest, I made my way to Spring Spa & Massage down at Soi 24. Took the 2 HR package for Thai and Aromatherapy oil massage. Throughout the massage, I made the fascinating discovery that my body was a total and absolute shitshow. My massage attendant was a heavy set middle aged lady made of pure muscle and she put me through the grinder (as per my instruction, of course). Yeah, I was NOT taking proper care of my body and it decided to teach me the error of my ways. Will definitely return for more sessions. The cost was 1650.
Preview for Day 4.
Will be heading off to Rebirth Massage Clinic for my first ever Jabkasai & Prostate massage. Will let you know what the experience is like. Hopefully, I will be able to report on more sexual escapades after this treatment!
Have a great day everyone!
Thank you all for your words of wisdom and encouragement. I will definitely take heed of your advice.
Just a quick update for now.
Day 3.
Got up bright and early and headed of to Chatuchak Weekend Market. Wow, that place is amazing and next level shopping! Spent 3. 5 hours there and some money and still didn't manage to cover a fifth of the place!! My legs were shot and my back was aching so I called it a day and headed back. This challenge isn't done as I still have one more weekend in BKK.
After dropping of my haul and having a brief rest, I made my way to Spring Spa & Massage down at Soi 24. Took the 2 HR package for Thai and Aromatherapy oil massage. Throughout the massage, I made the fascinating discovery that my body was a total and absolute shitshow. My massage attendant was a heavy set middle aged lady made of pure muscle and she put me through the grinder (as per my instruction, of course). Yeah, I was NOT taking proper care of my body and it decided to teach me the error of my ways. Will definitely return for more sessions. The cost was 1650.Were you hoping for a hot sex goddess masseuse or did you just take whoever they gave you.
I long for the days when I got massaged by hot sex goddesses.
Spent literally millions. Of baht that is, Pre covidity.
TwilightZoner
12-05-22, 07:42
Day 4.
As I'm typing this, a quick check tells me that my body is definitely functioning better. Would love to say that there's a spring in my step but my still aching calves say otherwise.
Okay, down to the nitty gritty. When I arrived for my appointment, I was greeted at the front entrance by a pretty young lady. She was, let's say, "Reubenesque" (or curvy, shall we say). The 'studio' is located in an apartment building. The apartment was sparsely furnished yet tasteful and tranquil. She explained what the procedure was and showed me to the shower. After drying off, it was on the bed face-down. She started of with a back massage which was firm and professional, none of the teasing as per the happy ending MPs. After a while I was asked to raise my hips as she focused on my anus and genitals. After the warm up, it was all on! Genital and prostate massage. Sorry gents, it is really hard to describe how it felt. The genital massage was definitely pleasurable but not in a sexual way and the prostate massage was the same. After a short period of time, I was asked if I wanted to pee (which I did) and we had a short break.
When I returned, it was on my back and we resumed the treatment. It began with another firm massage around my stomach and hip area. It sort of felt like she was trying to move whatever was inside my intestines and she continued prodding the area above my genitals, inner thighs and crotch without touching the crown jewels. When she started on the jewels, she gently held the low hanging fruit and gently squeezed and pulled one and then the other. She told me to expect a little pain within the genital area when she pulled them. After that, it was the root and the head. Holy Hell! The intense pleasure was shocking to say the least. She worked on the head, stalk and perinium with a gentle yet firm pressure. By the end of it, my 'little friend' was standing tall and proud.
THEN came the surprise!! She offered a B2B and BJ for 2000 B. Seriously, I was NOT expecting it but who am I to refuse since I had to ensure that the jewels were in good working order. Truth be told, I was amazed at how hard my erection was it almost brought tears to my eyes. After a most pleasant dalliance, I had a shower, paid and thanked her and headed off home.
The 2 HR session itself cost 4000 B. Was it worth it? For a first timer like me, I'd say yes. However, I'm also withholding judgement until I try what Spring Spa & Massage has to offer. I only found out about it when I had my Thai Massage session there. I doubt they'll offer extras but I just need to compare the experiences.
I had planned to visit Doki Doki tonight but I might postpone it for now. Don't want to overtax 'the bro' after such a healing session. In case any of you gentlemen would like to try, Google 'Rebirth Massage Studio'.
Peace out!!
Day 4.
As I'm typing this, a quick check tells me that my body is definitely functioning better. Would love to say that there's a spring in my step but my still aching calves say otherwise.
Okay, down to the nitty gritty. When I arrived for my appointment, I was greeted at the front entrance by a pretty young lady. She was, let's say, "Reubenesque" (or curvy, shall we say). The 'studio' is located in an apartment building. The apartment was sparsely furnished yet tasteful and tranquil. She explained what the procedure was and showed me to the shower. After drying off, it was on the bed face-down. She started of with a back massage which was firm and professional, none of the teasing as per the happy ending MPs. After a while I was asked to raise my hips as she focused on my anus and genitals. After the warm up, it was all on! Genital and prostate massage. Sorry gents, it is really hard to describe how it felt. The genital massage was definitely pleasurable but not in a sexual way and the prostate massage was the same. After a short period of time, I was asked if I wanted to pee (which I did) and we had a short break.Great report Twilight. Thanks. 4000 bt for 2 hours is a good deal. I am going to BK in 2 days. I will definitely try it.
Oneminuteboy
12-05-22, 16:16
How was Sugar Club? Were there a lot of freelancers?Not as many that I noticed as in 808 in Pattaya.
Has anyone recently been to Mixx? How is it after Covid? Can one recommend or better go to Levels or Sugar Club?I was at Mixx but early, around 12:00 am on a Monday. It wasn't busy. But there were at least 7-8 freelancers in a corner sitting waiting.
Personally for the crowd I liked Sugar Club more. Also because it's more compact. So you bump into ladies more often.
Oneminuteboy
12-05-22, 16:27
(Still voice notes).
Day 2 (BKK) - Exploring, the high and low.
Visited the palace and temple. And yeah the tuktuk scam is real. Didn't take one though.
Hadn't eaten until I was finished with seeing everything. Bought water while exiting the Palace for 20 baht. I go to eat I see water is 5-10 baht there. *.
Went back to the hotel. Took a nap, which was longer than I planned.
I wanted to explore some of the areas and venues I had listed down to get a idea of what to expect and where I could return to. *.
Lusty lady arrived at 20:30-21:00.
Only 3 guys playing pool. One*girl came straight to me and started talking. Then she asked to sit down and she asked for a drink. I said Okay we started talking. I wasn't really into her and I continue to ask questions and she answered. There wasn't really a spark just a normal conversation?
I forgot what her name she said ST price is 3,000 I nodded and drank three drinks and she got two lady drinks. Then the manager / owner who is a ladyboy came to our table. Asked if she could get a drink for the girl. Started talking with me. I congratulated her on opening new bar. She said she had another one at soi 8. Then she asked if she could get a drink. I said No. I'm leaving then. She tried to push for a drink. I said I had to leave. She said but it's raining hard and noticed that that but I decided to take my chance. So I asked for the bill hugged the girl and when I stepped outside the rain was almost done so I started walking to the next soi. Later I realised I lost my face mask. These pants I have are a curse and a pleasing.
So I walk to an area. I think it was the Arab area to Nana Plaza which I didn't realise was Nana Plaza because I was just following my marked places to visit. The guy / security at the check said that photocopy of my passport would not be accepted but he would let me through this time.
I checked my phone for some of the notes I had made on places to visit. I didn't see all the places right away. Then I saw Spanky so I went up and at spanky it was a nude bar at the girls were constantly dancing in shifts. It wasn't clear to me at the start that I could ask a girl. Then I saw one girl was kind of nice. I started to checking her out more. She was dancing but not with a lot of energy.
The place funny, the order girls were spanking some customers with foams. One 20 something guy thought he was spanking one of the ladies hard. Wrong, she reversed the rolls and she showed him how it was done*.
After I think three drinks one of the ladies that was taking orders for drinks was asking me or which lady you want to buy a drink for and she pointed to two lady sitting and I eventually said to the girl I was checking out. Forgot her name. We had a talk for a minute or two and she said okay. She would be right back. She had to do a performance and the performance was with another girl. It was like a love story she would go to the guy and they would kiss and she would be fucked with the fake dildo. Everytime that happened a horse sound came on.
But that was the moment I decided that I wouldn't get her information or barfine. The fake sounds turned me off a bit. We talked again. And later on when she was dancing again with the whole group which, but said she said she would come back to again and she did. She didn't really move that energetic so it was the final nail in the coffin for that. I decided that she would not be worth the fee with a bar fine of I think it was 6 or 800 and an ST of 3000. So I had one last drink before I left.
I checked my list to see if there were other places and could visit at Nana Plaza. I was looking around and I couldn't really find another place then I saw the the sign for Mandarin and I walked up and as I was walking towards the entrance two ladies pulled me in so I thought that was Mandarin and the ladies were pretty funny. They wanted to sit me at four girls and I said No. I'm going to sit alone and I ordered one drink. The girls that were dancing here were of a younger than Spanky but I felt that the quality or the entertainment was lower. It was not topless and the girls wouldn't really dancing. The majority of them was not really dancing. Only a few and one of the waitresses was having a lot of banter and I enjoyed that. So when one of the girls came to talk to me and she asked for a lady drink I said no. And then the waitress that was giving me the banter. So I said Okay because you're so fun I'm going to buy you a lady drink and she got excited then they sent one girl over who was new. And we just started talking. She has a day job which she started 6 hours after her shift would.
I didn't really feel her the way I had with spanky. But bought her a LD. I was having a lot of fun and banter with the service ladies. Then one of the girls that was eyeing me came over she started grinding me. Got her a drink and groped her to my satisfaction. She had to dance again and left.
So I asked the mama son what's the bar fine and she told me it was 800 I think and ST was 3,000. I got one more drink. One of the waitresses wanted a drink as well and I said no and she pretended to be upset so that was a lot of laughing.
I left thinking I might get back here at a later time and as I was walking outside there was a girl who started pulling me towards the real Mandarin which I later discovered and she had a good sales talk which kept me there at the entrance instead of leaving. And we started negotiating on the spot.
She was like 'Oh I go with you, you pay bar fine 800 and then short time 3000 for me'. I said no and she quickly countered by dropping*the price 2000 I stay with you and BF 1,000. I like that offer better so I decided to accept it as I was planning to go to a different place anyway and when we left she started explaining that was the real Mandarin and that she saw me coming up and she wanted to pull me in but the other girls were before her.
We were heading to Mixx club and she called the cab for 100 which I felt was still expensive and once we got into the club and it was empty. You only had like a few girls and like one or two guys. One started talking with me. Asked me if it would get more busy and I said Yeah the girl I was with she talked with the lady at the door and it would get more busier later in the evening around 12:00 so we drank our free drinks. Dancing together teasing. She looked 25 but she was 35.
After about I think 45 minutes of dancing, talking and getting it to know each other. She was grabbing my dick saying no ass too big. I was making jokes said no I'm small like Thai guy. She said 'Okay we go to your hotel' and I said Okay.
After we were leaving the club a taxi would bring us to the hotel for 200. I said No. I'm not going to do that and we started walking and as we were walking another taxi came and she started talking to the guy and the guy said Okay I'll bring you for 100 and I agree to that. So we got in but he didn't bring us to the entrance of the hotel but he did drop us off nearby so he could continue quickly. And without me realizing my phone slipped out if my pants in the taxi. It's the same pants I lost my phone while when you went home after a party in Amsterdam. I only realized it like hours later when I was trying to write down everything that had happened up till that moment.
Anyways the girl I brought over from Mandarin I forgot her name as well while Exchanged Line info. And picked up some stuff from 7-Eleven. Drinking a bit before quickly showering together. While in the shower she started giving me a blowjob which was sadly only the tip. After the shower quick jump into bed. I was fucking her long and she said she came multiple times. I saw it 2 times, she was shivering.
We started talking about what I like in woman. I said big breast. She didn have big breast and said 'you don't like me'. I countered I do you have amazing pussy, I fuck you all night*.
Then she started talking about leaving in the morning with her friend to the temple to pray. But she would stay a bit. And I said Okay but don't forget your alarm so you leave on time. And I fucked her a few more times and every time I fucked her she came.
She kept DFK me. I liked her energy and spirit.
*.
The most annoying thing about this evening was me losing my phone even though it was my secondary phone. It's the phone that I had all the information on for all my mongering which really pissed me off because I had a lot of stuff written down and I lost the ability to post every day or every other day with information about my trip.
So this resulted in me having to write things down in my primary account and then having to copy.
Oneminuteboy
12-05-22, 16:31
Day 3 (BKK) - Evening ending in splash.
Went to eat something at a food court. Then headed out to check Soi Cowboy which was around 18:30 I think. There wasn't much activity so I left quickly. Wanted to see what Thermae was like but I passed it. Didn't really see anything pop out pointing to it. *.
Went back to the hotel. Stalling a bit before heading out to Above Eleven. A sky bar that was having a salsa evening. Nice bar. After about an hour I left because it was way to hot in there for me. Headed towards Soi Cowboy but I wanted to see Thermae. Finally managed to spot it. I get in, and realised you're forced to buy a drink before walking around. I do that, make a round. I didn't get a good vibe so left right away. *.
Arriving at Soi Cowboy it was more alive now. Walked through the street to see if I saw familiar names of bars. Didn't really get pulled in. It has a far more relaxed vibe than Nana Plaza. Went to Crazy House. This was a sad showing girls hardly moving while on stage. They placed me near the bar. One girl did bust a few moves and was clearly the best but not my type. Left after one drink. Went to another (forgot the name). Ladies here were a bit more active in dancing. I sat downstairs and had one drink before leaving. Deciding to head to Mixx but forgot which station I need to exit. So go to the hotel. Decide not to go to Mixx and pick a different place. *.
Head towards Soi 11 the place I first went to Blaq Lyte doesn't seem to be open. Then next door to Juicy. Open bar and girls dancing. Lower caliber than sugar bar. I leave after one drink. Had some crowd and a what seem to be a weed dispensary. *.
Go into sugar club and I get greeted by the guy I tipped on Monday. Go inside and get my drink. Quickly order a next one (you see where this is heading). Get approached by a woman in her 30's. She with friends, I like on of het friends more but she has an attitude. The woman that approached ke is fun. We talk, dance. Buy her a drink she's grinding me. Want to give me her Line and I tell her I lost my phone. Later writes down her number old school style. *.
Even though we're dancing together I'm not putting real effort in it. Do a double order (pay for 2, get one now and the 2nd in 15 min). Buy another girl a drink keeping it cool. She wants to hang around but I let her go free and we keep bumping into each other. This is where I**to start loosen up. Meet an guy from SA, we talk about the the*places in BKK. He brags about SA and that I should visit. Things are blank thinking back.
Don't remember getting outside but I do remember seeing the guy talk to a girl and she has a hot friend. So I wingman. Suddenly I need to pee and rush to a nearby bar head to the bathroom and yep just as I whip it out it hits part of my pants. I'm fucked. I walk out and the girl sees it. Starts doubting if she needs to leave with me. But decides after quoting 3000 k which I stupidly agree to. *.
Now I don't remember how I got to the hotel or how I got inside. I do remember being in the room then things are blank again. Though I have a faint memory of fucking her I can remember it vividly. *.
So next morning I wake up smile at first, thinking next wait I don't remember the girl leaving. Jump up walk to the door and see it's locked. So I did do something. See there are clothes in the washing machine. Can't remember putting them in when realise all my stuff is on the counter but no cash, AMEX still there. Rush to the vault it closed. Go back to the counter and can't remember jack shit.
See my laptop is still there which I had taken to upload a big backup, at this point I'm confused as fuck because what happened. I open the security box and see there is cash in it. So I did something right or. Was it cash I had not taken out? I start writing down what I had spend. I'm short 4000 baht if I counted everything correctly but it's all so weird.
Through some further expense checking I was able to reduce the 4000 to 2000 that I could not account for.*.
As am writing this now I'm still unclear what happened exactly except I fucked up. Hope nobody remembers seeing me walk around with wet pants.
Also weird, the number that was written down by the other lady was on the table in a way to make me think that was the girls number / name. For me the only thing that was out of place.
After dropping of my haul and having a brief rest, I made my way to Spring Spa & Massage down at Soi 24. Took the 2 HR package for Thai and Aromatherapy oil massage. Throughout the massage, I made the fascinating discovery that my body was a total and absolute shitshow. My massage attendant was a heavy set middle aged lady made of pure muscle and she put me through the grinder (as per my instruction, of course). Yeah, I was NOT taking proper care of my body and it decided to teach me the error of my ways. Will definitely return for more sessions. The cost was 1650.That place is very expensive and I don't think you get a better massage in return.
The best place I've found around that area is on soi26. It's the first shop on the right hand side when you enter the shop from Sukhumvit.
If you see the masseuse with number "805" (blonde hairs), ask for her to do your massage.
She is the one that got me the best foot massage, any massage you take, take at least 2 hours.
No happy ending in this place, it's all legit massage only.
And when you'll finish, you can have a look at the girls working in the fuck service joints on soi 24/1 just behind the shop.
Oneminuteboy
12-05-22, 16:38
Observations thus far
People are glued to their phone. I thought it was bad in Amsterdam it's worse here. Everywhere, store and stall clerks. In the metro. *.
Land of (lesser) Smiles. Some of the malls I visited got hit bad with closed stores. There was even one where I which had only 20% of its stores open. *.
There is an appreciation visible when you wear a mask. *.
Having a Rabbit card is almost a must. Easy to get around and a lot cheaper than alter alternatives. Best thing every 2 minutes there is a metro. Dutch public service can learn from this.
Things I forgot to mention.
Day 3 I went to Doki Doki around 18:00 no ladies available, reception told me to book online to get the best chance.
Still want to get a Nuru massage before I go.
Day 4 (BKK) - The morning after.
Plan for tonight is to go to Nana Plaza and meet the girl from the 2nd day. She must be mad at me for not responding on Line and giving the appearance that I ghosted her. Going back because I like the energy she gave off. But type wise she's not what I'm looking for, I need bigger breasts and a deepthroater. *.
Have to see what I'm going to do for the next 6 hours until then.
Day 4 (BKK) - Seems some braincells died
Against better judgement I started talking to a tuktuk guy who has been on my corner for the past few days. Whenever he sees me tries his best.
Discouraged me from going to Daisy massage, because they have LB's. He would have dropped me off for 40 baht. Asked him which massage authentic. He named a place I forgot. In a miscommunication I thought that massage would be 800 he said, no 2500. He started talking about soapy. Here I caved. Sales talk of how amazing it is. Get the same as other places who charge separate. Would be 4500. Told him let's go back to pick up money. Well, lesson learned. No, during the ride we talked about clothing. Said he would bring me to the main place of where they make suits. Eventually we got there and I realised he's getting a fee. I didn't feel comfortable told them I'd be back when I have more time. *.
Left with the tuktuk guy so he could drop me off at Venus massage. Guess what it was a different one that I had typed. We get there I give him 60 baht as we had agreed. Walk in see older ladies with 1-2 young ones. Number*341 peeked my interest right away. Tried to play it cool. Asked the lady how it worked. 2 order ones were motioning me to pick them. One if the younger ones was look eager at me. *.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/A2VucbTgJvw8ATbK6
But still 341 who looked away, sort of shy got picked. Now my good friend the tuktuk driver was happy as I told him big boobs are my thing. I as I paid the 4500 for 90 min was less than but still eager to try out this lady. And thus would be another checklist item marked.
Oh boy the room wasn't all that. Standing in a tub. She gave me a 90 body rub. Had a titjob for 30 seconds. Then came covered bjowjob. Which ranked better than freelancer #1 but still sub par. Then she wanted missionary as I was too big for her to sit on. Did that and 1 min into she started with the 'come for me'. Started slapping my ass. 2 min after that she goed hand job. I say no fuck. She says you can't come. I tell her I like long time, she gets a bit upset and soldiers on. I started increasing speed so I could be done with it. Busted a nut. Then she started a "massage". Weak as fuck, we talked a bit but was really into talking as I just got the worst overal service till now. After that 10 min she says shower. I'm thinking ok, round 2 and more like that. No this was the end. I tell her I paid for 90 minutes. Started acting confused. Wasn't feeling this as all. And rather than stalking to the mama-san I left. I made the mistake at the beginning going with the tuktuk. This was (another) punishment for being stupid.
Well guess I won't be going all out to to tonight. Still a bit under the budget with the 2 k disappearance. *.
If Nana Plaza is nothing I'll probably write about it tonight.
Funny thing about it now that I think of it, I read a post somebody had a similar experience as me. Thought to myself that won't happen to me. Guess who's the donkey now.
Day 4 (BKK) - exceeding daily budget
After the disaster during the day I hoped that the evening would be more more enjoyable. Nana Plaza wasn't open till 20:00 and i did further research to find out Billboard was on the 3rd floor (or 2nd for us Europeans).*
First I needed to eat. I suspected that twas the reason it hit me hard on Wednesday. I went to Mani. It was on my list to eat. The place has a look at ok the street. You see a few freelancers and the massage shops girls. Had a Thai-franch tenderloin beef dish. Was nice. Took a cocktail and a juice. Though at a total of 1200 made this a bad choice in the end.
It was just past 20:00 and i realised having my primary phone with me might not be the best idea when going to Nana Plaza so i head back to the hotel. It didn't register with me that is was just a street down from where I was staying. Walking back to BTS station took as much if not more with the ride and wait .
Dropped the phone off and headed towards Nana Plaza. First stop Mandarin. Going through the check they let me pass. I smirked considering on Tuesday the white guy sitting there was a bit strict. I headed up and am greeted by the security guy, and the ladies from the (wrong) downstairs Manderin, of which i still don't know the real name. The mama-san from upstairs called dibs on me as i had promised i would return and buy her a drink.*
Upstairs the place was dead. Mama-san called a girl over apparently new. Pushed for me to BF her. I said no because I wanted the girl from Tuesday. She then said she is on holiday. Which surprised me. Bought the new girl one drink and headed downstairs. Was greeted warmly by many there. Immediate push for LD, i said no. Only coke for me. People were a bit (fake) shocked. Later a girl stared at me. Cute face but not really my type body wise. Bought her a LD. One of the waitresses got a LD as well. I said I didn't want another drink. She then prompted to get me one herself (she paid for it). I checked the bin to be sure. Then got the mama-san a LD. The waitress who gave me a drink brought over a small Mandarin which I could share/feed to the girl. Between that and the chit chat i started feeling like going home. Suddenly i got a plate with fruit delivered from the waitress. This prompted some laughter.*
Another girl who was grinding me on Tuesday came over we tried to talk and I bought her a LD but eventually just left. Paid up and left. Walked around Nana and saw the LB bars. Left to go to the hotel.*
As i was in my hotel i started to wonder if breaking the daily budget would be worth it. Made some calculation and the safest option would be to use one of the extra cash options.*
Exchanging money wasn't possible anymore so I opted to use an ATM. Which was a bit confusing in use. And the initial rate was way worse. I opted not to use the shown conversion. Went on to Nana Plaza and this where it hit me how close by it really was.*
When I got there the Thai guy motioned me to pass through. I had looked up and saw Billboard on the third floor. Went there and as I walked in it hit me right away. This WAS the best place in Nana Plaza. More girls, juicier girls. I was in shock. Did i waste LD's at the wrong place. It was crowded. I managed to get a place and saw some big breasted lookers. I then saw one but she disappeared. A mama-san came to me while she cooled near the vent. Asked me which girl. I said Im looking for 216. Pointed she was upstairs. She asked nobody was there. She started looking around. In the mean time i had started to drink my usual Poison, Jack & coke.*
While trying to find the girl I wanted i saw some crazy body girls. There was a dark skinned girl. At first i thought she was a black girl, because the ass and tits were insane for a TG. A few light ones with cute asses and nice tits. Eventually we came to the conclusion 216 was gone. Considering it was 12am it made sense. I got introduced to #31, shirt haired big tits. But i felt the vibe was off when in looked at her. And it was confirmed during a talk. I gave her a lady drink for het trouble as i was looking further. Then twice again saw a number that got BF right before I wanted to talk.*
Another thing i noticed was that the ones i wanted weren't really looking at me. And the ones that did weren't what i wanted from this place. What I also liked about Billboard was that they were far less pushy on the LD and getting me a girl.*
I decided to go down to the bar next to Mandarin. Might be able to pick that cute face from before. Wrong! She was gone. Another girl was eyeing me hard. Decided to buy her a LD. Apparently a new girl, 6 days in. She was grinding me hard. I looked for a potential 2nd girl to take along. But didn't really see anything. Then started the push for LD again. I got a bit tired of it and called it. Asked for the BF got quotes 900, + 3000 for the girl. I said yes. The girl looked a bit frightened. Then looking at my dick. Think the mama-san pushed her a bit because she was afraid of my potential size. She went along with it and we left. Started walking towards the hotel. Used Translate to communicate. No check at the front desk again. In the room got her a drink set up she wanted to shower after two sip. To my surprise there was no warm water. She makes sure I'm washed. We go to the bed and she starts kissing. DFK and liking. Starts sucking on the nipples and moving down. Sadly a tip only blowjob but at least BBBJ. After a few minutes she went to lay on the bed. We kissed. I put my dick in her mouth again. She then suggest we fuck. She a bit afraid and i show her the lube and she's happy. Go go slowly and she starts screaming a bit. I ask her if she's alright. She nods but i decide to take it slow the first minute and kiss her to loosen her up. She's enjoying it. Then i increase speed and find out she's a screamer. I take her in a few positions and she seems to love it but it's unclear to me if it's completely faked. After a good 30 min i had enough of the screaming. I wrap it up. Later saw there was a bit of blood on the condom and bed. Asked her if she was alright and she nodded. She showered and seemed happy for the 3K. Also gave her 200 extra. Before she left she wanted a few more sips of the drink I had made. And we kissed a bit more. She liked it seems like she didn't want to go but was obligated to.
I showered and went to bed. Then the night shouting happened again. Which i could hear in the room. This is one of the rooms not on the street side
*
Observations from this evening.*
At Billboard it seems the girls prefer ST. Some don't even offer LT. Spoke with a bunch of 20 y.o guys from the UK and they were expecting to be able to pick up girls for free on the street. Wish them all the best. Guys are making it rain (20 baht bills) in there.*
I'm hitting a wall with FL on TF. No response after initial interaction. Meanwhile I'm seeing 60+ aged guys on the street with stunners. I need these guys game.
Thoughts for the next day
Thinking of Tulip but can't get over how the place looks. Might actually do a Nuru even though the tuktuk guy tried to scare me with the LB stories of them working there. I'm also going to check out Smooci. Because they offer more shots and time than some of these FL on TF who are quoting 3K.
I was planning to meet up with some guys from BA forum but with the loss of access to my accounts and phone that plan went down the drain.
Oneminuteboy
12-05-22, 16:52
Day 5 (BKK) - Options laid bare.
Starting the day off by heading to the Bangkok Culture & Art Centre. It was not as I had expected. Various exposition with the actual artist there to tell about their process. Then headed to MKB mall. Followed by a trip to the hidden foodmarket across of Siam mall. Followed by Siam Center itself where I grabbed something to eat. Had some big prawns but it wasn't enough as I hadn't taken rice with it. Back to the hotel and grabbed something from mom and pops. Shrimp dish (rice and shrimp) and a coconut smoothie. *.
Back to the room to eat and eventually taking a nap. I then went to Lumphini Park, I actually wanted to go to Benchakitti but one of the girls on TF said it was closed due to summit. Didn't realise that. Walking to the metro the tuktuk guy Boom was there. Told him I was not happy and not going to the tailor. Wasn't interested anyway. Think he felt bad and realised he lost business. Said he'd bring me to the park for free. Did not believe him. But again I was stupid. We get into the tuktuk. He says ' but friend can you help me one thing'. There it was. He wanted me to go to another tailor, just go inside look for 2 minutes so he can get a free stamp for gas. I went along with his scam, could have gotten an Emmy for my performance. Haven't seen anybody drop prices on shirts and belts as quick as these guys. Said I'd come back. *.
He dropped me off at Lumphini, perhaps because he was on his way home and trying to fix a broken relationship. *.
I walked around the park. It was smaller than I thought. Sat down for a while while browsing TF. I was hitting a dead road there. Which concerned me a bit for Pattaya. *.
Got back to the hotel with BST. Then I took the first side street in Soi 8 because I remembered a new bar would open there on the 18th. Seems to be marketed towards HiSo people. I couldn't enter with shorts so I went to change and take my time. Got back there and got a complimentary drink. When I walked in there was a guy with shirts. Later I saw another guy with shorta. There wasn't any food just snack bites. Started talking with a Aussie guy who is a teacher. After about 30-45 min I had to leave to at least eat something before going to the salsa evening. Went to a burger joint close to it. Prime burger. There wasn't a seat for me so I said I'd take away. They checked with customers who were sitting for a while and gave me their seat. The burger was nice. Right balance of everything. *.
After that quick but off to the salsa evening. I was a bit early and the class also ran out. Danced with a few ladies, loved this place better than Above Eleven, it was cooler here. *.
Eventually left and went to Soi Cowboy. When I passed Crazy House I saw the doormen quote an Indian guy 500 baht. I walked down the street once looking for a place I yad not visited but had forgotten te name. It later dawned on me I had already visited it before. It was around 22:30 and the girls were grabbing. Soi Cowboy didn't seem like it was for me. Decided to go to the hotel, change to shorts and hit Nana. As I was heading towards Billboard I noticed that who looked like my energy bunny was there. I saw it was and walk around to greet and let her know about my phone situation. I get there she walks over I get pulled from the bar down stairs I check for the name and it's Red Dragon. I say no I only can to talk with her. We go upstairs talk about I get her a drink and myself one. She goes up to write down her line. Comes back and we go downstairs. She kisses me a few times. Excited and all. *.
Staff from Red Dragon is pulling me in. They pretend to be fake mad I'm going to Billboard, but they understand why. I hug the energy bunny tell I contact her and come back tomorrow. Forgot to mention both places were more packed with customers but not as much as Billboard.
Head up to Billboard. Full as hell Can't sit. One of the waitresses gets me a seat at a small table where 2 other guys are sitting. Sipping easy looking around. I see 216, damn she is really pretty. When she goes to dance a vibe she might be bad in bed. Hardly moving staring around blindly. I started looking at another, number 58. Cute face enough as and tits. But I also seem to get the attention from 78. A blondie that had porn star looks. I remember her grinding a guy the day before. Having and having big ass nipples. We wants to come over but I actually want 58 more. Wave to mama-san she asks me how I am. I tell her good. And I found 216 but I like a. Different one more. She points to 58 and comes down. We talk and it seems to go positive. English is good we can conversate. We bounce together to the beat. Eventually she gets 3 LD from me. The first 2 went down quick but they were tequila shots. The 3rd one she took her time. I also noticed she looking around the place. My mood shifted to 78. *.
As 58 let me know she needed to dance I ask mama-san if 78 is good. She nods yes. As if minds could read she was already on her way to me. We talk quickly and 58 comes back, a bit confused. Mama-san thinks shit. I do a fake 'I don't know' motion. 78 starts to grind me. In my mind I'm already taking her home. Question is ST or LT. I get to hear 3000ST, 6000 LT, she corrected herself from saying 5000. And saying normally 4-5 hours. I tell I think about her. I start to als question what we're going to do. What can I do with you. She says everything what ever I like. I'm like damn. Mama-san looks at me I nods. She makes a joke you pay me tip I give you her. I tell her, tomorrow you will find out if she was good. She then says you pay 900 and 3000 to her I say. I ask her again and say don't I pay the girl. She says yes. Might have been a miscommunication. Anyway we leave around 0:40.
I had been giving some of the staff and mama-san a drink. And I had 4-5 JD and coke. Eventual bill was 3000 and a bit. We go out walk to my hotel. The conversation goes well. Her English is better that most I've had thus far. She tells me she lived in the UK with her boyfriend. We walk into Soi 8 and I notice she has light giving heels on. Great! I keep a firm face forward. *.
We're in the elevator we kiss DFK Get into the room. She drops her stuff. Starts kissing me again. Which she also did at the bar I forgot to mention. She has pornstar vibes all over her. I pour her a drink she takes a sip moves me ti the bed starts sucking my dick. Proceeds to deepthroat it. I'm like what! Teases. Wants to fuck because I make her horny. Put on CD start fucking slow but built speed up fast. She comes in about 10 min. We takes some drinks again. Talk. She said how she saw be earlier and wanted to come but I was looking away. And then you called the other girl and her heart broke. I told her I saw her yester day but she was busy with another guy. In between this all she's teasing. We're at the desk. She start rubbing her ass with my dick. She says put it in. In looking no condom. She says put it in now, I'm wet in horny. Little head takes control and I'm in her pussy. She says just don't cum in me. I fuck het she fucking wet. We move to the bed. Proceed to pound her for 15 min. She wants to out a finger up my ass I stop and hard on is gone. I saw no, we don't do that. She's sorry. Says put it back in because she needs to cum again. Take her in a few positions. She comes. *.
I ask her about the day before, said I almost wanted to call you but you were busy. She tels me she was taken out twice for ST. Once at 8:30, then at 22:00. These girls are making crazy money if that is an average. *.
We talk about life, love. She says are you going to fuck me all night, I tell her yes. I warned you. She smiles. Then you fuck me in my sleep. I tell her I will. A few more positions get done I don't (want to) cum. She wants me to 😂. I let her sleep. I'm a light sleeper tonight,. She's awake a bit and horny as she grinds my dick. I ask her after a while if she wants it. She says yes and gives me the lube. I tell her we're doing it the natural way. Fingers drop in, she's wet within 2 minutes. I drop in fucker her much hard now. She cums quicker. And no I'm not bragging, she is simply one that can come easily she says. *.
We sleep further. Around 9:30 I start wandering around the room go to the security box. She wakes up says she'll leave. Freshens up. Gets her stuff. We exchange info. I thought I needed to exchange cash but I had enough and give her the 6000. *.
I shower and go to bed I'm satisfied. She wasn't the best looker but I got what I wanted. If I had asked she would have stayed to make sure I came in her mouth. Though price wise I've spend more per woman and evening since I came here. More discipline for Pattaya will be needed.
Oneminuteboy
12-05-22, 16:58
Day 6 (BKK) - Didn't score to win match.
I head out to PAT stadium to pick up tickets for the match of Port FC vs Buriram United. I actually went because of*suphanat mueanta. The FM 21/22 wonder kid. Stood in line and was drenching in sweat. Picked up 2 pickets as I expected Au to respond to join me. *Used public transit rather than taxi / scooter. With one of the stations closed because of the summit I had to walk a while. Walked to a local market and got to see how things are done. Very humbling seeing whole communities work together.
Headed back to the hotel. I was knackered. Instead of sleeping I wrote my post of the previous day. I still wanted a Nuru massage but was way too lazy to do anything. And I was also still feeling satisfied from lunch.
Match time nears I head out. I didn't know the money exchange was closed so I was forced to use the ATM again instead of exchanging the remaining euro's I had. I planned to do that later as I still had enough left. *.
Traveled with the subway. The station closest to the stadium was open again but since I didn't have my phone with I didn't want to take any risk getting lost. So took the one after that and walked back. Got to the stadium and you could see other tourist still trying to get cards. They didn't do research you need to arrive early. Then what I saw was the most unorganized way of people seating. I sat near the goal a few rows up. I felt Port FC was playing poor. And the ref had a few dodgy decisions. Port FC came behind but it could have been more. They equalized right before the break. Second half was abut more excitement and fire in the second half. And when then Poet conceded a second from their goals scorer. I left shortly after. *.
Thus time I decided to walk to the nearest station and it was really easy. Back at the hotel. Swapped clothes and went outside to get money. Then made the last trek to Nana Plaza. I still wasn't sure what I would be doing but I'd greet everybody from the past few days. Went to Red Dragon. Gave the doormen a drink. Said to mama-san I take it easy. One of the girls that has been trying to go with me for the past 2 times came to me sat down and was aggressive. Gave mama-san a drink. 2 staffers as well But none of the other girls. The young girl from Thursday was smiling. And the other I didn't take as well. I went upstairs to greet the mama-san and one of the waitresses walked with me. Said her friend was upstairs. Get there she is super excited. I buy her a LD. We talk. Say I'm not going to BF her but might ask her to come to Pattaya for a day. Said I wanted to take her to the football match but she didn't respond. She looked focused. *.
Said I was going upstairs to Billboard and then leave. They asked if I was going to BF there. I said no, just drink and leave. *.
I get to Billboard and not as many girls as thy day before. A lot of the lookers aren't there. That means a lot got BF. I was chilling. They left me be and even moved to so I could see the stage better. The lookers came back and number 58. Then 78 came back saw me. Said he come for me. You BF me. I said no, but she tried to seduce me. She wasn't wearing any pants. I'm like what. She sees I'm not responding. I buy her a LD and she goes to switch clothing. She comes back and I get a hard grind like she's trying to safe my life. Eventually gives up. But while grinding another dudes she keep looking at me. So and 58 were making eye contact. After her round she comes down. I buy her a drink. We talk a bit I ask her about her ST because I'd like to fuck her, there I something about her. But she says 1 hour and 1 shot I'm like nah. She asks me if I want to BF 78 I say no. She looked a bit surprised because she's popular. Asked her if she knew her and she said from Baracca at Soi Cowboy. She was the best there. **(Forgot to mention 78 also tried to set me up with one of her friends. #31 was one of them. I asked 78 if she is like her in bed. She says she doesn't know.).
I buy a lady drink for one of the older waitresses and leave. Bin came at 3000. I left feeling satisfied. Like I overcame my greed for taking something out. Walked back to the hotel. Did some research for the next day in Pattaya and went to sleep. Didn't really sleep until 9:00. And I picked up a cough from the damn ACs and this hot weather.
Were you hoping for a hot young sex goddess masseuse or did you just take whoever they gave you.
I long for the days when I got massaged by young hot SEX goddesses.
Spent literally millions. Of baht that is,. Pre covidity.I always found that an old lady with a rubber apron and fingers that looked like big toes did the best in dekinking me.
A good body treatment usually leaves me limp.
There was a place over in the Korea Plaza where I used to get boiled and scrubbed by some thick peasant. That usually caused the turtle effect.
I hate spoiling a good body destruction with sex.
Port plays down at PAT stadium which is basically "behind" the Khlong Toey Market. They have a nice little food alley with great Thai snacks and lots of beer. A ticket on the covered side is $6. The cheap seats are a bit rowdy. The souvenir shop is usually packed, I have some kit myself.
Buriram is even better, their field is new and very "western" and the crowds were huge. Its like a mini NFL up there. VIP ticket was $20 and ya got tasty free food.
When I was staying in Phra Kanong, it was quick ride down there and I went to so many matches I got to know some of the other Thai fans. Lot of them travel so you end up hanging out with them at away matches.
Found me a few "freelancers" there I may add. Good hunting grounds in the early evenings.
Plus the market itself which is an experience in and of itself.
MRT Queen Sirikit is best, MRT Khlong Toei can be a schlep.
MusicalToM
12-05-22, 19:45
I'm back to Bangkok after Covid. Tried to get some Oily Experience but my fav Snow White is gone. I'll see if I can gete Snow White experience from some where else. Any suggestions are welcome.
I headed to Soi Cowboy at around 9:30 pm, the streets were full but not as full as before covid. Saw Crazy House on the way but I have had a bad experience with them in past so just passed on, went straight to Baccara my fav place in Cowboy.
I went to upstairs straight, got a drink and the usual Topless show was ON. The girls will rotate their shifts as usual. Not many stunners I saw.
#171 (Cha):
Nice petite lady, very slim IMO thus thought of trying her. After watching her for a while asked the mamasan to call her up, bought 2 drinks for her. The lady is from Isaan, can't speak much English. Since I could speak Isaan language I had a conversation with her but if you don't speak Thai / Isaan then Google Translate is your best bet. I was almost about to Barfine her for Longtime but after talking to her a while she said she is not well, she has fever & cough. She mentioned she would go with me & sleep. As per mamasan (who is from Isaan too), the girl is new and a bit shy but trust me the girl's attitude was a straight off to me. I didn't find the enthusiasm from her when someone bought you 2 drinks & is about to BF. For example, she would go to the stage, just stand & when I look at her she would take her eyes away from me & look somewhere else. I asked her if she had a boyfriend and the answer was NO.
Eventually I called it off since IMO if a girl isn't interested in you, she won't provide a good service when back with you to your room.
#206 (Aom):
A short lady from Isaan too, I liked her so much but unfortunately she was only available for ST not LT. I wanted LT with her. She has done a nose job but I can tell you she is beautiful. We had a good conversation & she respected my decision of not taking her bcoz I wanted LT and she could not go LT. Bought a drink for her, she was obliged for it. I wish someday she will be ready for LT and I'll take her with me.
If you are looking for ST, I recommend this lady. Her body is well built, nice natural boobs with a cute face. I would say 8/10 just by looks & figure.
I know I haven't mentioned about the damage, I'll summarize it here as general:
In pre-covid period, at Baccara there were no fixed price for ladies. It depends how much you negotiate with the specific lady then pay the BF and off you go. But now it seems they have standardized it to ST - 4000 and LT - 6000 (4 hours). If you keep the lady more than 4 hrs you pay extra to the lady. The extra is up to you and the lady. Now this is good & bad at the same time. Good in the sense that the ladies won't rip you off if they find you a novice and Bad in the sense that they are taking away the negotiation capability from customers like us. Either way the rates are not that bad at all, I won't mind paying ฿6000 for a good looking lady.
Note that you can pay at Baccara using your card but they will charge you 10% extra service charge which included BF & the fee of the lady $6000 too. But yeah I suggest you carry cash & pay the lady when she leaves your place.
I'll leave BKK tomorrow, I'll post another report when I get to BKK next time probably after new year and really try a lady from Baccara. Till then good luck.
Port plays down at PAT stadium which is basically "behind" the Khlong Toey Market. They have a nice little food alley with great Thai snacks and lots of beer. A ticket on the covered side is $6. The cheap seats are a bit rowdy. The souvenir shop is usually packed, I have some kit myself.
Buriram is even better, their field is new and very "western" and the crowds were huge. Its like a mini NFL up there. VIP ticket was $20 and ya got tasty free food.
When I was staying in Phra Kanong, it was quick ride down there and I went to so many matches I got to know some of the other Thai fans. Lot of them travel so you end up hanging out with them at away matches.
Found me a few "freelancers" there I may add. Good hunting grounds in the early evenings.
Plus the market itself which is an experience in and of itself.
MRT Queen Sirikit is best, MRT Khlong Toei can be a schlep.Been a season ticket holder for 11 years. Great fun.
I'm back to Bangkok after Covid. Tried to get some Oily Experience but my fav Snow White is gone. I'll see if I can gete Snow White experience from some where else. Any suggestions are welcome.
I headed to Soi Cowboy at around 9:30 pm, the streets were full but not as full as before covid. Saw Crazy House on the way but I have had a bad experience with them in past so just passed on, went straight to Baccara my fav place in Cowboy.
I went to upstairs straight, got a drink and the usual Topless show was ON. The girls will rotate their shifts as usual. Not many stunners I saw.
#171 (Cha):.My word, I just can't help but gasp at these prices given the quality I've seen in bars post Covid. It's just nuts. Honestly, I'm paying 2 k average for 90 min 2 shots with far better looking gals online. Of course I totally understand that most visitors want to go out to bars and party. Guess the bars have firmly become pretty much tourist only. I do miss the days when Cowboy was the expat hang out. But 23 years in the past when I moved here was a lifetime ago.
I do miss the days when Cowboy was the expat hang out. But 23 years in the past when I moved here was a lifetime ago.Aaah, Yep. Why I skip the bars, too many memories of the mid to late 90's (don't worry, my ears still work and I can hear the "Jesus Gramps" ...). Nana, Voodoo, G-Spot, and what was the name of the ground floor bar diagonal to the Nana entrance, the last bar on the right wall? Had a sister bar next door). Lots of attractive bg's; the "all dance", girls had to be careful of not falling off the stage it was so crowded. The music was decent, OK, maybe a little bit too much disco, but I still have Nanase Aikawa's Bye Bye Boy on my playlist, loud enough to mask the conversations at the next tables, but not so loud as to mask the conversation at your table with the girl sitting next to you. Most every bg wanted long time, the more (sequentially) the better. And LT was LT, not counted in hours. Pull one night, the next, have her meet you at your hotel, walk down to the bar, pay the bar fine, and have the whole evening to have her show you around the Thai places, THEN the night's entertainment. Even 12 years ago, Cowboy, Tilac, sit out on the veranda overlooking Cowboy, the evening's entertainment walking past. Then step inside, amazing how the girls without panties could stay hidden even in their miniskirts. Lady drinks weren't expected, they were earned for being entertaining. For me, the whole dynamic has changed; yes, it was business, but not so transactional. Well, times change, but I just can't see sitting in a bar, buying lady drink after lady drink, then a bar fine, then her service charge for a couple of hours, then have her get back to the bar to repeat. For myself, the bars were the means to an end, NOT the end itself.
Day 6 (BKK) - Didn't score to win match.Well, a VERY entertaining set of FR's, reporting on scenes not usually reported on, though I will say some of your adventures were a bit cringe worthy (trusting a tuk-tuk driver to look out for YOUR interests? What could go wrong there?) For me, that's always a "My Pie" (I don't go). But certainly makes a nice set of war stories, so thanks.
Got up bright and early and headed of to Chatuchak Weekend Market. Wow, that place is amazing and next level shopping! Spent 3. 5 hours there and some money and still didn't manage to cover a fifth of the place!! My legs were shot and my back was aching so I called it a day and headed back. This challenge isn't done as I still have one more weekend in BKK.I hit Chatuchak at least once every visit. While the BTS drops you close at Mo Chit, for me, better to take the MRT (I change from BTS to MRT at Asoke). As I've said, DON'T get off at Chatuchak PARK, use the NEXT stop (if coming from Asoke), Kamphaeng Phet. Using this stop, exit #2, you are right at the EDGE of the market, and, for me anyway, the most interesting sections (26, 25, antiques, handicrafts, silk).
I've shopped at Little Wings House, Section 25, 3/2, "room" 217-219 (corner), for over a decade. They sell mounted insects (butterflies, beetles, etc), along with beetles in acrylic (keychains). Good place for some unique souvenirs.
BagBerry, Section 10, 20/3, "room" 076-078, has some nice PVC bags, place mats, etc. Picked up some nice purses for female relatives 3 years ago, said hello, this year.
Other souvenirs I've bought are: molded soap in shape of various fruits (mangosteen, coconuts, mango, papaya, etc) with associated scents, 4 for 100 baht (don't even bother to bargain); facial tissue boxes with silk tops (they are flat to conserve space in the shop and your bag, but expand out to a 3D rectangle to fit the kleenix box); and place mats (bamboo, wood, PVC). I just wander around in sections 8-10.
At least in Nov 2022, there was an NPB (No Problem) T shirt outlet at Section 12, 21/4, corner. There used to be a shop in MBK but didn't get there this year.
A real loss is Viva 26 that was in Section 26, now just space; was a great bar, place to grab a cool drink or two while in the market. Another institution gone.
I do stay AWAY from the live animals section.
Day 4.
The 2 HR session itself cost 4000 B. Was it worth it? For a first timer like me, I'd say yes. However, I'm also withholding judgement until I try what Spring Spa & Massage has to offer. I only found out about it when I had my Thai Massage session there. I doubt they'll offer extras but I just need to compare the experiences.NICELY reported, a venue that I'm sure will interest some. For me, it's like bargaining in general: you set the price that whatever is worth to you. If you can get it for that price, fine. If not, move on. And a one of, or infrequent repeat? Regardless, now YOU (and we) KNOW. Well done.
One thing you should consider is how you prefer to spend your time when you're AREN'T being a naughty boy. Are you a foodie? A shopper? A museum goer? Wanting to see temples and other cultural sites? Then you'll probably want to tilt toward Bangkok. Or do you prefer to spend your down time with a cold drink close at hand while watching the world pass by in a tiny little bar off the beaten path? Maybe watching the waves roll ashore while lounging in a comfortable beach chair under an umbrella? Or perhaps day drinking with your mates (new or old) in a beer bar or gentleman's club? In that case, Pattaya will probably appeal.
I live in a big city and enjoy the intense vibe very much. But on holiday I prefer to chill out. Pattaya's laid back beach vibe appeals to me, so I always start my holiday there. Wandering around town in my shorts and whiling away the hours doing whatever strikes my fancy just lowers my blood pressure. That said, I eventually get bored. So I transfer my flag to Bangkok at the end of my trip. My personal preference runs toward waifish girls who have not spoiled their looks with cosmetic surgery and/or tattoos, and I find more of those girls in Bangkok. I also enjoy shopping for electronic stuff and always find time to go that in the big malls. Finally, my flight home is a long one and it's nice to be closer to the airport when the time comes to leave.
BunkyVery well put. There are other things to do here, depending on your interests. Myself, I'm the opposite, like the big city even if I'm from one, don't care for the beach (two choices, white or RED), do like the mountains.
Oneminuteboy
12-06-22, 16:00
Well, a VERY entertaining set of FR's, reporting on scenes not usually reported on, though I will say some of your adventures were a bit cringe worthy (trusting a tuk-tuk driver to look out for YOUR interests? What could go wrong there?) For me, that's always a "My Pie" (I don't go). But certainly makes a nice set of war stories, so thanks.It only took one moment of weakness. Even though I stood firm all the days he tried to get me to go with him.
I always prefer to do things my way, rather than how everybody else does it. And that is where I got a lot of joy out.
A poster down below at this number in subject line discussed his night out on Suk. Quite an adventure, I must say.
He also mentioned visiting Lusty Lady off Soi 11. I have not been in Bangkok since this bar opened and will be coming to Bangkok for the winter arriving around NYE so what I mention here is word of mouth info. I will also be staying nearby so was pleased to see a report on this bar / club.
I was amused to find that the ladyboy owner approached him to buy a drink there. From what I understand, this Ladyboy owner is older and owns a LB bar on an alleyway behind Soi 10, not Soi 8, as he mentioned. There is a very attractive younger GG there who is also a part owner (from what I have been told) but is not available for take out. Perhaps, has a BF but not sure. I also understand that the GG's there are not all that great looking. And at those prices quoted, it confirms that I will not be finding GG's there. He mentioned the gal quoted him 3 k short time but did not mention the BF on top of that. Too rich for my blood! I read it's a nice looking bar from what I have been told but don't get the philosophy of buying drinks for girls who may or may not available and who want $3 k for ST. Perhaps, that negotiable, it usually is but still there is a BF plus buying drinks for whoever sees a random sucker.
My word, I just can't help but gasp at these prices given the quality I've seen in bars post Covid. It's just nuts. Honestly, I'm paying 2 k average for 90 min 2 shots with far better looking gals online. Of course I totally understand that most visitors want to go out to bars and party. Guess the bars have firmly become pretty much tourist only. I do miss the days when Cowboy was the expat hang out. But 23 years in the past when I moved here was a lifetime ago.I'm with you. 2,000 baht in bkk easy on TF and 1,500 baht in Pattaya. The prices mongers are paying at bars is insane.
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High Season. Haha. Nana the last 2 days look like they just opened after Corona. Dreadfully Dreadful.
TwilightZoner
12-07-22, 01:55
4,000 for a Fat provider is getting a bit out of line. Hahaha.Is that all you have to offer? Snarky comments and NO helpful advice? Must make you feel very superior putting posters down.
4,000 for a Fat provider is getting a bit out of line. Hahaha.Price per Lb or kilo works out cheaper.
4,000 for a Fat provider is getting a bit out of line. Hahaha.Prices are getting out of touch in Bkk.
I've spent a few evenings in the Jungle bar in Nana, opposite to Hooters. A lot of LBs trying their luck there (in the street, in front of the bar), many of them negotiated just in front of me.
Price asked was 1500 and they were not even the best looking ones. Crazy thing is they were being picked up by many guys.
The gap between Pattaya and Bkk is getting huge, next time I'm quite sure I'll spend less time Bkk.
I'm with you. 2,000 baht in bkk easy on TF and 1,500 baht in Pattaya. The prices mongers are paying at bars is insane.In Pattaya, average price I paid in bars was around 1800 including one drink for me, one or two for her, price of the room, and her fee, for two hours of fun in total (1 downstairs and 1 hour upstairs).
How is it better to pay 1500 for a girl that never looks like her pics, is always ten pounds heavier and most of the time older than her profile states. I'm not even talking about the body odors she let on your bed sheets, her stinky cheap perfume that stays forever in your room, and her hairs displayed everywhere in the bathroom and on the bed.
4,000 for a Fat provider is getting a bit out of line. Hahaha.What's the problem? TwilightZoner was looking for a SPECIFIC experience, real by HIS definition, and one that with his definition, not often reported on. He searched for it, found it, experienced it. Paid for the massage, and when offered extras, opted in as, no doubt, he wanted to experience the FULL package. For some experiences, IMHO, it IS worth the price. Now he KNOWS, and thanks to his ROD-quality FR, now WE ALL do. Not something you might be interested in, not something that I might be interested in, but now there's an ACTUAL FR for those that are thanks to his paying the dues. And YOUR takeaway is fat? Regardless of TwilightZoner's ISG status, he's varsity.
Now others remind me of that 2nd string junior varsity player who'll never make varsity, never gets in the game. So to make himself look big on campus (at least in his own mind), he has to denigrate any and all, making snarky comments ("1000 baht girls", "275 pounds", "little black girl successful on soi 6 not rainbow", etc., etc., etc., ad nauseam. Some "like to challenge" but provide no useful info. That Rainbow 5 is packed is NOT really news, unless there were some details: bar fine price, her asking price, her agreed to price, LT / ST, etc, USEFUL info). (Yea, that search engine is a real b*tch, so easy to detect BS).
Does it seem to others that Timmie and Alex A are twins? Hahaha.
You might as well Forget chemistry. That happens over multiple sessions over months.No doubt YOUR experience, tolerance does take time to build. Myself, with current fav: 3 weeks, 1 visit each week. 3 years later, like it was simply the 4th week. Of course, rather than gawk, I talk with them.
Ok, fellas. This is going to be long one, a very long series of reports because I need to do this trip justice.A shout-out to NewtonYork, BIG thanks for your FR's. Couple of new places, a real gem found.
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TwilightZoner
12-07-22, 15:03
Day 4 Continued.
After smashing out the previous post, I headed out again to continue completing my shopping list. Headed to Platinum Mall. Originally, I had planned to go to the Pratunam Shopping District but after the morning session. Maybe next time. Rather than walk through every floor of the mall, I went directly to the 4th floor where the men's clothes were. It still took me a while and effort to find what I liked. It's definitely pricier than Chatuchak but the quality's good and they had what I wanted.
Feeling peckish, I headed to the food stalls outside and feasted! Ah. Food. One of the main reasons coming here!
Day 5.
Designated no sex day. I had things to do, stuff to buy and food to eat. I quickly packed all my clothes purchases off to the laundry and made a beeline to MBK. Got myself a suitcase, bought a few more souvenirs and had my first fitting for my bespoke tailored suit. Zipped back to the hotel with all my goodies and dumped them on the bed and off I went again. This time to Jodds Fair. Oh Lord! The variety of food there is insane and there's only so much space in my stomach. I found out a while back that after a certain age, my stomach cannot stretch anymore. So rather than have one sit-down meal, I walked around having tidbits and nibbles on skewers. Missed out on so much.
Day 6.
The original plan was to do the touristy thing and check out the temples and Grand Palace but on a whim, I went onto the Sideline Thailand website and took a gamble. It wasn't long when I got a reply. After setting up the appointment, I headed off to the designated location. While I can't say that this session was a total success, it wasn't a total failure as well. The young lady that greeted me at the door was definitely not the young lady on the photo but I kinda expected it. She was definitely pretty. Until she disrobed. Oh. My. Lord. Her figure was stunning. She had the MOST magnificent pair of breasts AND they were NATURAL. No silicone. Soft, bouncy, malleable, squishy. Big, dark, delicious nipples mmmmmmm. While the sex was enjoyable and fun, I can't say that it was memorable (other than her boobs). The primary purpose was to see if Day 4's healing efforts paid off. Yup, full blown erection, hard as a rock, stiff as a post. Downside was, maybe because of my age and fitness level, I have degenerated into a one-shot wonder. Gone are the days of multiple orgasms. Will chalk this day as a good experience anyway.
Why'all have a good day!
Feeling peckish, I headed to the food stalls outside and feasted! Ah. Food. One of the main reasons coming here!Yep, so much variety. I was always fond of the guava with a sugar packet, or the fresh squeezed orange juice. On leaving Nana, I'd always pick up 10 skewers of meat + chillis, extra if she wanted something or would pop for some grasshoppers for HER before heading back to the hotel. For ME, one of the best deals going, as I've mentioned before, is Foodland's Took Lae Dee restaurant. Western food if you're of a mind, or very decent Thai (agreed to by Thai civilian friends). And it might be lime squash, but their nam-a-now soda (soda water) is just the thing to quench your thirst, 44 baht a glass. I stopped by Soi 5's Foodland last week, just for old times sake. That place hasn't changed in 29 years. Though before, it was always crowded regardless of the time. This time, 18:00, 4 customers at the counter, including myself. Maybe they got an F from the health inspectors and don't have to post, or maybe now, everyone goes "upmarket" for food, but for me, it's a given, an institution.
The trouble with pulling a bg for ST is she wants to get the job done to be able to return to the bar for the double header, pun intended. When LT was LT, and you could pull early, e. G. 21:00, you could have her take you around for food and fun. Or the next night, just have her meet you at the hotel, go together to pay bar, then go around.
Took the liberty of adding your JabKasai traditional Thai genital massage post to the ROD's. Might not be everyone's thing, but certainly a number will find it useful as it was an actionable intel FR. Well done, as usual.
I'm not even talking about the body odors she let on your bed sheets, her stinky cheap perfume that stays forever in your room, and her hairs displayed everywhere in the bathroom and on the bed.Well, the first two I haven't experienced, the Thais being very clean, but the last ... One thing if you're in a hotel with maid service. But if you're a resident, and have to DNA sweep before from home visitors ... THAT IS a PITA.
Houston Player
12-08-22, 04:36
When LT was LT, and you could pull early, e. G. 21:00, you could have her take you around for food and fun. Or the next night, just have her meet you at the hotel, go together to pay bar, then go around.You can still do this if you want. Many go-go girls will go eat with you or bar hopping or both if that's what you want to do. Especially if you're paying for long time. I've barfined recently and took a girl bar hopping before we went back to my condo and I didn't even have to pay for long time. She left soon after sex. I did pay the LT barfine rate so she could decide if she wanted to return to the bar or go home after I cut her loose. I only paid her short time rate.
For ME, one of the best deals going, as I've mentioned before, is Foodland's Took Lae Dee restaurant. Western food if you're of a mind, or very decent Thai (agreed to by Thai civilian friends). And it might be lime squash, but their nam-a-now soda (soda water) is just the thing to quench your thirst, 44 baht a glass. I stopped by Soi 5's Foodland last week, just for old times sake. That place hasn't changed in 29 years. Though before, it was always crowded regardless of the time. This time, 18:00, 4 customers at the counter, including myself. Maybe they got an F from the health inspectors and don't have to post, or maybe now, everyone goes "upmarket" for food, but for me, it's a given, an institution.Even the workers in that place hasn't changed, at least in the last 5 years.
The place is clean, food is good and never had problems the next days after eating there.
There was a place over in the Korea Plaza where I used to get boiled and scrubbed by some thick peasant. That usually caused the turtle effect.
I hate spoiling a good body destruction with sex.I used to frequent that place too and was disappointed to see it doesn't exist anymore.
Couldn't find a replacement, do you know of other places like that?
TwilightZoner
12-08-22, 09:47
Yep, so much variety. I was always fond of the guava with a sugar packet, or the fresh squeezed orange juice. On leaving Nana, I'd always pick up 10 skewers of meat + chillis, extra if she wanted something or would pop for some grasshoppers for HER before heading back to the hotel. For ME, one of the best deals going, as I've mentioned before, is Foodland's Took Lae Dee restaurant. Western food if you're of a mind, or very decent Thai (agreed to by Thai civilian friends). And it might be lime squash, but their nam-a-now soda (soda water) is just the thing to quench your thirst, 44 baht a glass. I stopped by Soi 5's Foodland last week, just for old times sake. That place hasn't changed in 29 years. Though before, it was always crowded regardless of the time. This time, 18:00, 4 customers at the counter, including myself. Maybe they got an F from the health inspectors and don't have to post, or maybe now, everyone goes "upmarket" for food, but for me, it's a given, an institution.
Took the liberty of adding your JabKasai traditional Thai genital massage post to the ROD's. Might not be everyone's thing, but certainly a number will find it useful as it was an actionable intel FR. Well done, as usual.I like the pomegranate juice drinks sold on the roadside. That stuff is sooooooo refreshing!! Been plowing into the mangoes, pineapples and watermelons as well!
if the Hyatt Regency is girl friendly?I stayed there a few times. They are girl friendly, In fact, you can bring girl directly upstairs without checking ID. They will check if you bring girl to them. You can also bypass reception at Park Hyatt as well.
You can still do this if you want. Many go-go girls will go eat with you or bar hopping or both if that's what you want to do. Especially if you're paying for long time. I've barfined recently and took a girl bar hopping before we went back to my condo and I didn't even have to pay for long time. She left soon after sex. I did pay the LT barfine rate so she could decide if she wanted to return to the bar or go home after I cut her loose. I only paid her short time rate.Interesting, thanks for the info. Nice move on your part.
BG's like to bar hop. Gives them a chance to 1) check out the competition, and 2) look for other places of employment, all under the cover of keeping you company. And, back in "the day", when Patpong had upstairs bars that were dubious, a bg from Nana or Cowboy would keep you from getting ripped off as she wanted your wallet for herself (personal experience).
Houston Player
12-08-22, 12:18
Interesting, thanks for the info. Nice move on your part.
BG's like to bar hop. Gives them a chance to 1) check out the competition, and 2) look for other places of employment, all under the cover of keeping you company. And, back in "the day", when Patpong had upstairs bars that were dubious, a bg from Nana or Cowboy would keep you from getting ripped off as she wanted your wallet for herself (personal experience).Yes and they also like to go to bars where they used to work and still have many friends working there. It can be a real party if you don't mind spending a little money or in my case spending a lot of money. 555.
Jayagopal50
12-08-22, 13:32
Day 4 Continued.
After smashing out the previous post, I headed out again to continue completing my shopping list. Headed to Platinum Mall. Originally, I had planned to go to the Pratunam Shopping District but after the morning session. Maybe next time. Rather than walk through every floor of the mall, I went directly to the 4th floor where the men's clothes were. It still took me a while and effort to find what I liked. It's definitely pricier than Chatuchak but the quality's good and they had what I wanted.
Feeling peckish, I headed to the food stalls outside and feasted! Ah. Food. One of the main reasons coming here!Very informative report. I was wondering if worthwhile to learn how SIDELINE operates with LINE for a short trip of 5 nights. The girls look Lucious although pictures are sure to be Photoshopped, and Prices are very good.
Axel Heyst
12-08-22, 14:01
Yes and they also like to go to bars where they used to work and still have many friends working there. It can be a real party if you don't mind spending a little money or in my case spending a lot of money. 555.You should absolutely do what works for you, but in the long run over many, many girls this strategy is not optimal. So, I suggest that once you have left the Go Go with your girl, it makes no difference if your arrangement is ST or LT, take her back to your place and straight away get it on. After you have enjoyed the sex is the best time to go out for dinner or barhop with your girl if you and she still want to. Why? Because:
1. I don't know about you, but I shag better on an empty stomach. The sex is always better before a meal.
2. You never know what can happen when you delay sexual gratification and barhop first. The girl can drink too much and that can really screw up your plans for the evening or her attitude can change.
Therefor my advice is strike while the feeling is right. Have sex first and party or dine afterwards. And if the girl wants to run back to her Go Go, so be it. It is her loss, not yours. Grab something to eat, relax, and go out and look for another girl. This is one of the things I love about BKK. Looking for that 2nd girl of the evening after the 1st girl has left.
I like the pomegranate juice drinks sold on the roadside. That stuff is sooooooo refreshing!! Been plowing into the mangoes, pineapples and watermelons as well!Hint: Its probably not the real thing if you buy it in the tourist district.
I used to frequent that place too and was disappointed to see it doesn't exist anymore.
Couldn't find a replacement, do you know of other places like that?Dang it! I hit the ground ion January and that was one of the first places I was headed to!
Even the workers in that place hasn't changed, at least in the last 5 years.
The place is clean, food is good and never had problems the next days after eating there.I'm probably the only guy here who avoids Foodland. To me, its overpriced meh.
On Fridays, I used to do down to the place across from the Grace. The Bamboo- Fabulous plov.
Houston Player
12-09-22, 01:09
You should absolutely do what works for you, but in the long run over many, many girls this strategy is not optimal. So, I suggest that once you have left the Go Go with your girl, it makes no difference if your arrangement is ST or LT, take her back to your place and straight away get it on. After you have enjoyed the sex is the best time to go out for dinner or barhop with your girl if you and she still want to. Why? Because:
1. I don't know about you, but I shag better on an empty stomach. The sex is always better before a meal.
2. You never know what can happen when you delay sexual gratification and barhop first. The girl can drink too much and that can really screw up your plans for the evening or her attitude can change.
Therefor my advice is strike while the feeling is right. Have sex first and party or dine afterwards. And if the girl wants to run back to her Go Go, so be it. It is her loss, not yours. Grab something to eat, relax, and go out and look for another girl. This is one of the things I love about BKK. Looking for that 2nd girl of the evening after the 1st girl has left.You give excellent advise for visitors however I live here so this advice is useless for me. I know exactly how to have a great time here everday. I was just letting Bravo11 know that he can still have a good time as in the past if that's what he wants to do.
Big bad warning about hopping bars. Don't let Barfine say she want go Bar where she has Friends.
You not buy Drinkie for everyone and their Mother will cause extreme loss of Face.
Rule one of Cavorting with Prostitute s. We are ATMs.
LOL. Don't you forget it.
Might be posted double. Similar Thoughts.
Imagine bar hopping. You showing your 10 to everyone. You the Man.
Then all her Friends show up wanting a Drinkie-. Are you Brave enough to say F. K OFF.
Your $200 barfine might cost you $500 or more depending on your constitution. Haha.
I've seen it numerous times a guy sits at a Rainbow with his Brown Barfine. Over time one thinks that's a lot of drinks that guy is Buying. Everyone having a good time except him.
Big bad warning about hopping bars. Don't let Barfine say she want go Bar where she has Friends.
You not buy Drinkie for everyone and their Mother will cause extreme loss of Face.
Rule one of Cavorting with Prostitute s. We are ATMs.
LOL. Don't you forget it.I mean, lets not BS ourselves. There's no need to buy these girls drinks or any of that shit anyways. All they want is your money, if you want to bang them, just do it and forget the lady drinks.
Might be posted double. Similar Thoughts.
Imagine bar hopping. You showing your 10 to everyone. You the Man.
Then all her Friends show up wanting a Drinkie-. Are you Brave enough to say F. K OFF.
...Actually, yes. Well, "Fuck Off" would be too harsh. But I will buy 1 Lady Drink for 1 of my chosen girl's "friend, sister, cousin", whatever. Then when the follow up friend, sister, cousin shows up asking for a drink and I don't want to buy them one I simply wai, smile and say "Mai dai. " (can not). I will even refuse that way when my girl asks me to buy one for them if I am not interested in meeting the new girl. An exception might be a LD for the mamasan in that bar if my girl is in tight with her or whatever.
Contrary to what seems to be other posters' experiences, refusng to buy LDs for my chosen girl's friends, even if asked to by her, has never negatively effected my session with that girl later. That is, IF I have secured an upfront agreement from her before paying her barfine or taking her that we will have DFK, DATY, BBBJ and Real Sex without a condom. If it is only a "Go With The Flow And See What Happens In The Room" situation, any nightmare scenario can and, for me, often does follow based on anything, everything or nothing that happens prior to bedtime sex.
But I must be one of those "psychos" mentioned here every now and then, LOL, because my experiences over the past 10 years of living and mongering here run contrary to what I read here on a whole host of issues, not just that one.
Among them:
- Note I said I will buy the mamasan a Lady Drink in the above situation. I used to avoid mamasans, thinking as most seem to believe here that they are unnecessary interlopers. Yes, they would be if you are fine with whatever basic standard Thai P4 P fare the girl is going to dole out to you and your only negotiation points are regarding price and maybe ST vs LT. You don't want a mamasan involved in that. But if you like the idea that the mamasan might be very helpful in bringing girls to you who have been vetted for the very services, with you, that I cited above in my upfront agreement requests, buy that old bag a LD, be friendly with her, tell her what you like, want, need for a Happy Barfine Experience and chances are very good she will save you a lot of wasted LD purchases in the future for prospects that will never work out well for you anyway.
- I have no problem reducing the fee for a girl on subsequent sessions if I am dazzled enough by her to want repeats. Oh, she might balk a bit when you tell her the new rate. But I have repeated many times with girls I took from bars who would not budge from, say, 3000 for ST (on my terms) the first time for 2000 - 2500 on subsequent sessions.
- I find young and above average looking Bangkok gogo girls to be far more agreeable to my above cited upfront agreement requests than less attractive, supposedly more desperate girls on the street or supposedly more sexually raunchy girls in the specifically Happy Ending or PSE shops.
To name just a few.
And my contrary experiences don't only go positive for me:
- I have never met a "poor" Thai prostitute who is forced to do any damn thing she isn't ok to do for any amount of money high or low. Not talking about street girls who collapse drunk and unconscious on the sidewalk. But just about every one of them above that are certainly not "poor" by Thai standards. Hell, not even "poor" by USA standards if you've traveled much around the states. So this idea that they are living a terrible lives doing horrible things they hate to do for ugly old men just does not jive with my experiences and observations over the years. Thai prostitutes of any age and physical appearance have never been reluctant to say "NO" to me for any and all of my above cited requests as long as there is at least one other customer prospect in the area. And there always is. That is also something worth remembering when they hit you with that "my baby has no milk, my grandma is sick and has no money" stuff. Thai prostitutes we meet in these red light districts are not "poor".
A related topic:
- Multiple sessions and repeats do not improve the chances of BBFS+CIP with a Thai girl, P4 P or regular, who initially said "No" to it with me. LOL. At least not up to and including 3-4 repeats. Again, talking about how some of MY experiences run contrary to what I read here.
As always, YMMV.
Houston Player
12-09-22, 04:35
I mean, lets not BS ourselves. There's no need to buy these girls drinks or any of that shit anyways. All they want is your money, if you want to bang them, just do it and forget the lady drinks.HaHa spa guys telling go-go guys how to spend their money. I love it. I never go to a Go-Go bar looking to barfine a lady. I go because I like drinking with my friends and my favorite girls. Also I can afford to do it. If I want to have sex and I mean great sex just the way I prefer it I text one of my many lady friends to come over.
I only occasionally barfine a lady and it's not to have sex but because we're having such a good time together. I'm most likely already too drunk to enjoy sex to a satisfatory finish anyway. If I want to have sex with her I'll tell her to come over the next day when I'm not drinking.
If I started posting about all of my daily experiences I'd be confused with Explorer xxx 5555.
I don't recommend what I do to anyone but my friends and I go out to dinner and drinking 2 nights a week.
Explorer8939
12-09-22, 08:19
Big bad warning about hopping bars. Don't let Barfine say she want go Bar where she has Friends.
You not buy Drinkie for everyone and their Mother will cause extreme loss of Face.
Rule one of Cavorting with Prostitute s. We are ATMs.
LOL. Don't you forget it.Bingo.
Also, don't stop at the 7/11 on the way to the hotel.
Dang it! I hit the ground ion January and that was one of the first places I was headed to!You just saved a trip to Korea town, there's nothing left there, except if you like to eat in the restaurants over there.
probably the only guy here who avoids Foodland. To me, its overpriced meh.
On Fridays, I used to do down to the place across from the Grace. The Bamboo- Fabulous plov.A bit overpriced for basic Thai foods I agree, but at least I've never been put aside for the next 2-3 days after eating there.
Bamboo being a Lebanese / Middle eastern restaurant I believed prices were more expensive than elsewhere.
TwilightZoner
12-09-22, 10:46
Day 7.
Headed off to Pratunam shopping district. Man! That place is a maze of corridors and alleyways of stalls and shops. Unfortunately 90% of the shops and stall sell women's wear. Men's stuff could be considered a needle in a haystack. Those that I found were mainly printed Ts, branded (yeah, right) clothes or fuckboi clothing. After all that, I only ended up with a pair of cargo pants. Giving up, I headed of CentralwOrld. I had originally planned to visit there to check out the G-Shock shop. Ended up getting myself another watch.
Later that day, I headed back to MBK to collect my suits. Tried them on and was pretty happy with them. The owner asked if I could make a comment on the Youtube video that led me to his shop. Of course I obliged and ended up being gifted 2 silk ties!!
Day 8.
Made a booking to return for another massage at Spring Massage. I originally wanted to try other places but I had to return to try their 'Jaguen / Jabkasai' massage. I found that they had a 2 HR Deep Tissue & Spring Massage package (Spring being the Jabkasai / Genital massage). Made a booking and off I went to Soi 24.
Before I continue, I wish to reiterate why I'm doing this. This particular type of massage is like any type of legitimate massage ie Thai, oil, aromatherapy, deep tissue. The only difference is, it is focused on the genitals. Like a normal massage, it is to promote relaxation, circulation and general wellbeing. Nothing sensual, provocative, sexual or happy ending. I believe I suffer from a mild form of erectile disfunction. While I can get it up, maintaining it is the problem. There is NO such treatment where I live. The only solution is in pill form and even then it's not 100% guaranteed. After my first treatment, not only was it hard and upright, it performed VERY well to my satisfaction. This treatment is a means to an end. It allows me to fully enjoy the MPs here. Take from this what you will but don't disparage it based on your own bias.
On arrival, I was led to a dimly lit room with massage beds and a shower. After showering I hopped on to the bed and the therapist came in. She was a pleasant middle aged lady with really strong fingers. The deep tissue was painful as expected but it wasn't as bad as my first session. After she completed my back and legs, she had me get up on all fours and proceeded to work around my rear and genitals. Lots of oil, firm pressure and acupressure. No prostate massage. The surprise was when she applied the hot stones and oil. Learn something new every day. It was very relaxing.
Once that was done, she told me to flip over. Seriously, that was an effort. My body was so limp that I struggled! Once I was set, off she went. She worked on my chest, neck, arms and legs. Once done, she spread my legs and positioned herself between them. She firmly massaged my stomach (much like the other Jabkasai session) and then got to work on my genitals. Again, it was pretty much like the first Jabkasai session BUT this therapist took a lot longer and paid more attention to detail. There was a lot of acupressure work done on my pubic area and inner thighs. I found that the muscle fibres in my inner thighs were super tight. Again, hot stones were applied! All in all, I can say that this part of the treatment, while there were some painful moment, it was definitely pleasant. Not enjoyable. Not pleasurable. Very, very clinical. When she finished, she wiped off all the oil with a hot towel and had me sit up to work on my shoulders. Oh Lord! My body felt so heavy and WEAK. Which I take to be a good sign, terribly thirsty as well which was another good sign. When she was done, she instructed me NOT to shower as she has already removed the excess oil with the hot towels. It would also allow the infused oil to absorb through my skin.
Cost? 3000 B for 2 hours. Worth it? Hell yeah. Will be heading out soon to the Happy Ending parlours soon to enjoy the fruits of her labor.
MusicalToM
12-09-22, 11:40
Chatuchak Market is slowly losing it's charm. It used to be my hangout place few times in every trip but things have become more tourist oriented and service standard has come down drastically, for example if you buy a whole Griller Fish (Pa Ping in Thai), it used to cost ฿230-250. The fish used to come with free white noodles & the green veggie stuff (Phak / Fak in Thai) but now there is no free noodle or veggie stuff. You must buy them separately and the grilled fish price also has gone up to. I understand price rise is because of inflation but overall it's not like old Chatuchak market. But yes you should visit the market for experience and probably buy some souvenirs but there are better places to do shopping if you don't mind.
I would suggest anyone to try "Patthavikorn Market", this place has mostly 2nd hand items but in very good condition and the prices are damn cheap like starting from. I don't think you can find items in Bangkok cheaper than this place if you don't mind items which are not brand new. The sellers over there are not so good in speaking English since this place is mostly visited by locals, thus if you can speak some Thai or have someone with you who speaks Thai then it would be much easier.
TwilightZoner
12-09-22, 13:38
So, after finishing the report, I headed back out to Soi 24. As I briskly walked toward my destination, I took stock of how I was feeling. A little tired, a little lethargic but still good to go. Huh, unfortunately there was something niggling at the back of my mind that I TOTALLY chose to ignore.
I reached the little alleyway on Soi 24 and made my way to Addict. I passed by a LOT of ladies who were just as acceptable but for some reason I fixated on Addict. When I entered, there was a lineup in progress. The mamasan quickly ushered me to the sofa to make a pick. So many ladies smiling at me. Who to pick? I threw caution to the wind and picked a lovely young woman and off we went. Up in the room, she started filling the jacuzzi and scampered off to get her basket of goodies. I undressed and waited, that niggling feeling started growing as well.
She got back soon enough and not long after, we were both undressed. She motioned me to get on my front so she can massage me while waiting for the water to fill. The massage itself was fair (only because I had such an intense session hours earlier) so I used the time to check her out. She was slim bordering on skinny and sported man-made boobs (well proportioned though) and I admit she was very attractive. When the water reached an acceptable level, we both entered and she started washing me. At this point, with all the fondling going on, I should technically be sporting a note-worthy erection but.
It was only when she was giving me a blowjob did my little friend rise, albeit reluctantly, to the occasion. Unfortunately, when we got out, the little fucker went back to sleep. THAT was when it hit me. My body has not yet recovered sufficiently from the intense massage session. It worked brilliantly with the first therapist because it was immediately after resurrection. It worked magically with the Sideline chick because I was well rested. It failed this time because I was still in recovery mode. I'll give it to her, she tried, and mightily but. Nothing. So, rather than both of us being morose, I got her to lie down and went to town on her lady bits. It wasn't long before her soft moans got louder and her body started mashing herself into my face. I must have done something right when her hips started bucking and shuddering on my mouth. With a loud hiss and a yelp, she orgasmed. I was totally surprised by the look of shock and embarrassment on her face. She quickly hopped off the bed to clean herself. She admitted to me that that was the first time someone made her come.
She redoubled her efforts to get an erection going but. In the end, she had me in a firm grip and jacked me off. THAT was intense. I did pop a load in the end.
Moral of the story. Rest and recuperate after an intense massage session before heading out to play.
See you next time!!
Axel Heyst
12-09-22, 15:20
You give excellent advise for visitors however I live here so this advice is useless for me. I know exactly how to have a great time here everday. I was just letting Bravo11 know that he can still have a good time as in the past if that's what he wants to do.HP, I understand what you are saying. I would not presume to advise you or any expat living in BKK, Pat or anywhere else on how to play the game. It is a totally different ballgame for guys like you and I hope to join your league in the not-too-distant future. 555. Despite it all I still think BKK is the overall the best place to live. I love the girls in Jakarta and Sao Paulo for example, but I don't think I would like to live full time in either of those great cities.
HaHa spa guys telling go-go guys how to spend their money. I love it. I never go to a Go-Go bar looking to barfine a lady. I go because I like drinking with my friends and my favorite girls. Also I can afford to do it. If I want to have sex and I mean great sex just the way I prefer it I text one of my many lady friends to come over.
I only occasionally barfine a lady and it's not to have sex but because we're having such a good time together. I'm most likely already too drunk to enjoy sex to a satisfatory finish anyway. If I want to have sex with her I'll tell her to come over the next day when I'm not drinking.
If I started posting about all of my daily experiences I'd be confused with Explorer xxx 5555.
I don't recommend what I do to anyone but my friends and I go out to dinner and drinking 2 nights a week.This is what I am talking about. It is a totally different ballgame for expats. Rock on!
A. H.
I believe I suffer from a mild form of erectile disfunction. While I can get it up, maintaining it is the problem. There is NO such treatment where I live. The only solution is in pill form and even then it's not 100% guaranteed. After my first treatment, not only was it hard and upright, it performed VERY well to my satisfaction. This treatment is a means to an end. It allows me to fully enjoy the MPs here.How long, would you say, the effects would last for you?
Actually, yes. Well, "Fuck Off" would be too harsh. But I will buy 1 Lady Drink for 1 of my chosen girl's "friend, sister, cousin", whatever. Then when the follow up friend, sister, cousin shows up asking for a drink and I don't want to buy them one I simply wai, smile and say "Mai dai. " (can not). I will even refuse that way when my girl asks me to buy one for them if I am not interested in meeting the new girl. An exception might be a LD for the mamasan in that bar if my girl is in tight with her or whatever.
Contrary to what seems to be other posters' experiences, refusng to buy LDs for my chosen girl's friends, even if asked to by her, has never negatively effected my session with that girl later. That is, IF I have secured an upfront agreement from her before paying her barfine or taking her that we will have DFK, DATY, BBBJ and Real Sex without a condom. If it is only a "Go With The Flow And See What Happens In The Room" situation, any nightmare scenario can and, for me, often does follow based on anything, everything or nothing that happens prior to bedtime sex.There's a Clique of about 4 Rainbow 5 girls who seem close and always Shuffle together and in the same location.
3 of them I'd consider Hot. All have natural tittie's and great bodies.
2 I've compensated minimally.
All similar in that they show no attempt at being Successful in their chosen line of work. Hahaha.
I'm starting to believe their rich parents told them get a job, any job, just go do something.
Nothing else makes sense I really doubt they even make the minimum amounts to qualify for Salary.
These are the kind of girls that are Pretty enough I'd spend $120 for a Dead Fish experience. Can't even do that we these, they just so off the Charts in a negative way.
Chatuchak Market is slowly losing it's charm. It used to be my hangout place few times in every trip but things have become more tourist oriented and service standard has come down drastically, for example if you buy a whole Griller Fish (Pa Ping in Thai), it used to cost ฿230-250. The fish used to come with free white noodles & the green veggie stuff (Phak / Fak in Thai) but now there is no free noodle or veggie stuff. You must buy them separately and the grilled fish price also has gone up to. I understand price rise is because of inflation but overall it's not like old Chatuchak market. But yes you should visit the market for experience and probably buy some souvenirs but there are better places to do shopping if you don't mind.
I would suggest anyone to try "Patthavikorn Market", this place has mostly 2nd hand items but in very good condition and the prices are damn cheap like starting from. I don't think you can find items in Bangkok cheaper than this place if you don't mind items which are not brand new. The sellers over there are not so good in speaking English since this place is mostly visited by locals, thus if you can speak some Thai or have someone with you who speaks Thai then it would be much easier.Yikes, grilled fish 140-160 Baht with all the trimmings in my neighborhood. Rents must be out of sight in Chatuchak these days. That's a mighty big surcharge.
TwilightZoner
12-10-22, 02:59
How long, would you say, the effects would last for you?Unfortunately, I do not have any concrete knowledge about that.
PublicInterest
12-10-22, 03:26
Was at the hotel watching the Croatia. Brazil game (yay Croatia!) when I had a thought: this game would better with a blowjob.
An internet search came up with this establishment, so I took the plunge. I communicated with them over chat and they provided me with a price list and asked me for my preferences. I told him that I was in the mood for someone who is very petite and if possible was good at deep throat as well. They said that they didn't really have anybody who is a deep throat specialist but he sent me over a pic of a recommendation. The picture didn't give the clearest view of her face but upon recollection, after meeting her I can say that the picture was accurate. So I made a reservation and they told me that the therapist could show up within the next 60 minutes. Almost exactly 60 minutes later I received a phone call from reception confirming that I was going to let her up and two minutes after that I heard a soft knock at the door.
Now I'm 6 foot three and about 235 pounds; The figure that stood in front of me could not have been more than 5 foot and I honestly doubt if she was more than 90 pounds soaking wet. But despite her small frame this woman had a really nice figure. She had a cute smile with full vicious lips and long natural eyelashes that would flutter every time she would smile. She was a second year political science student at the local university and it was originally from Chiang Rai. She knew enough English for us to be able to have simple conversations and we put in the gaps with Google translate or body language. After a few awkward moments in my Living Room where we tried to break the ice, I made a joke that made her laugh and put her at ease. She asked if it was OK if we took a shower and a motion to the other room to direct to where it was. This prompted another nervous giggle and she said that it would be a lot more fun if we took a shower together. Who was I to argue with that logic?
For such a petite girl she had a nice round butt, and perky delicious looking tits. She got some body wash and lather up her hands and then begin to reach up as high as she could start applying the suds to my neck, my shoulders, my chest, my midsection and then she reached down and brought my cock to life. This is when she spun me around to wash my derrière and she proceeded to wash and pull up my balls while she did a reach around. Now remember the size difference, so in order to reach around she had to press her self up against the small of my back to get full access. After a few soft wet kisses we finished a shower dried off and made our way to the bed. She then proceeded to give me a very sensual and therapeutic body rub. A few times as she was massaging the backs of my thighs, she was reach under and stroke my balls. I told her that I wouldn't mind it if she would tug at them and pull at the sack. She took directions well and when she realized that I really like to be serviced from behind, she raised my hips and then begin stroking my cock while I was facedown and up on my knees. It was after a few minutes of this that I felt her soft lips wrapped around my cock and she began to blow me from behind.
She then asked me to turn around and lie on my back. This is when I got another 15 minute massage on my chest, stomach and front of my thighs. She repositioned herself to sit between my legs and she told me that I should put a pillow under my head to get more comfortable. She then gave me a link and said this will make it easier for you to watch me. And that's what I did. For the next 10 to 15 minutes I looked on in amazement as this petite girl swallowed me whole. All the while she was massaging my anus and she was really good at reacting to my physical cues and moans. Occasionally she would move her head down and suck at each of my balls while continuing to massage me down there. I had just arrived in Bangkok after more than 28 hours of travel and my body was still feeling the effects. Honestly I didn't have it in me for an acrobatic session so I just lay back and let her continue to do what she was doing for a little over 40 minutes. And never did she give any indication that she was getting frustrated or impatient with me. In fact, she seem to enjoy finding out what things she could do to me that would elicit a moan or a groan. When I felt the climax building up, I let her know but she didn't even flinch as she continued to do whatever she could to get as much of me in her mouth as possible.
All this, and the team I was rooting for won the game.
A good night in Bangkok indeed.
I'm going to go have breakfast now. I slept like a baby.
https://bodyblissbangkok.com/
Highly touted Blondies, by sticky, is up for sale.
Owner wants more Family time. Or maybe 5 customers a night isn't cutting it.
I want all these bars people to make lots of money, it's good for all to have a Vibrant industry.
But I just don't see the customer base.
18,000,000 tourists in 2023, per TAT. Is not a Big number. Over 44,000,000 pre Covity.
Yikes, grilled fish 140-160 Baht with all the trimmings in my neighborhood. Rents must be out of sight in Chatuchak these days. That's a mighty big surcharge.While I enjoy Chatuchak as a hunting ground (you would be surprised what the camera can do) and go there on occasion for the sights and sounds I usually end up in the Buttefly place in Rot Fai park. I don't really shop or eat at Chatuchak, except snacks and the like.
For markets, I prefer local ones like Wang Lang, where the food is amazing and the clothes are cheap, not that I need clothes or care about the cost of anything other than in principle (I'm not paying100 baht for a plate of Pad Krapow Moo when its 30 baht in local areas).
There are so many great local markets it makes sense for even a tourist to experience the real thing, which Chatuchak (and the Train market up in Hwaii Kwang) are not, being geared primarily for tourists.
Jump on the skytrain, get off at Pak Nam, and hit the seafood market. Or grab the SRT train at Talat Plu Market (off the BTS) and head down to Maha Chai.
My advice to every visitor is to see the sights, but head off the beaten path for real fun.
My further advice for longer stay travelers IE 90 days or more is live outside of the tourist districts. Your 35 K baht condo in Asoke is 11 K across the river.
For my upcoming trip I think I'm either going to be in Bang Sue, or Thonburi again.
Was at the hotel watching the Croatia. Brazil game (yay Croatia!) when I had a thought: this game would better with a blowjob...BTW, did she swallow?
Member #4813
12-10-22, 20:46
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now. The New York Times reported that it was available in numerous locations and easy to buy, but that there is a backlash against pot, and that the law was almost certainly changing. They added that this might happen by January, just as my wingman and I are supposed to visit. I do not smoke marijuana, but he always smuggles some into the country (against my advice! We are both old guys in suits, so we do not look like pot smugglers, but I would like to be able to tell him not to bother this time.
Thanks.
Axel Heyst
12-10-22, 22:31
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now. The New York Times reported that it was available in numerous locations and easy to buy, but that there is a backlash against pot, and that the law was almost certainly changing. They added that this might happen by January, just as my wingman and I are supposed to visit. I do not smoke marijuana, but he always smuggles some into the country (against my advice! We are both old guys in suits, so we do not look like pot smugglers, but I would like to be able to tell him not to bother this time.
Thanks.Who knows what the situation will be like in January, you can check the day before your flight to find out, but at the moment there are weed shops all over BKK & Pattaya and it is as easy to buy weed as it is to buy mango sticky rice.
https://thaiweedguide.com/map/
I don't want to sound like prude, LOL, but your amigo is out of his friggin' mind or he is addicted. Getting caught bringing weed INTO Thailand is a major problem. It does not matter if the odds of being searched is only 0. 01%. It is not worth it. Does the name Brittney Griner mean anything to your buddy?
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now. The New York Times reported that it was available in numerous locations and easy to buy, but that there is a backlash against pot, and that the law was almost certainly changing. They added that this might happen by January, just as my wingman and I are supposed to visit. I do not smoke marijuana, but he always smuggles some into the country (against my advice! We are both old guys in suits, so we do not look like pot smugglers, but I would like to be able to tell him not to bother this time.
Thanks.It's everywhere, when I say everywhere I mean it their are shops now on almost every Conner, recently last week they stopped allowing you to smoke it in the shops but other then that it's available!
GentileBear
12-10-22, 23:45
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now. The New York Times reported that it was available in numerous locations and easy to buy, but that there is a backlash against pot, and that the law was almost certainly changing. They added that this might happen by January, just as my wingman and I are supposed to visit. I do not smoke marijuana, but he always smuggles some into the country (against my advice! We are both old guys in suits, so we do not look like pot smugglers, but I would like to be able to tell him not to bother this time.
Thanks.Available on many street corners. And even the Pot sellers will walk up to you and pitch their LOW THC buds. So IMO it is easily available but the quality is shit as they can't have much THC in thier buds. Just my opinion.
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now.....I came across many stores in Thailand. I am not a smoker but I wouldn't trust the sleazeballs selling on the street.
...My advice to every visitor is to see the sights, but head off the beaten path for real fun.
My further advice for longer stay travelers IE 90 days or more is live outside of the tourist districts. Your 35 K baht condo in Asoke is 11 K across the river.
For my upcoming trip I think I'm either going to be in Bang Sue, or Thonburi again.I like Thonburi and Pinklao when I want a break from the tourist sections of BKK. Good advice Nyezhov.
PublicInterest
12-11-22, 01:16
BTW, did she swallow?Watching her lick her plump lips to get at the last drop and then flash me a smile was a highlight for me.
While I enjoy Chatuchak as a hunting ground (you would be surprised what the camera can do) and go there on occasion for the sights and sounds I usually end up in the Buttefly place in Rot Fai park. I don't really shop or eat at Chatuchak, except snacks and the like.
For markets, I prefer local ones like Wang Lang, where the food is amazing and the clothes are cheap, not that I need clothes or care about the cost of anything other than in principle (I'm not paying100 baht for a plate of Pad Krapow Moo when its 30 baht in local areas).
There are so many great local markets it makes sense for even a tourist to experience the real thing, which Chatuchak (and the Train market up in Hwaii Kwang) are not, being geared primarily for tourists.
Jump on the skytrain, get off at Pak Nam, and hit the seafood market. Or grab the SRT train at Talat Plu Market (off the BTS) and head down to Maha Chai.
My advice to every visitor is to see the sights, but head off the beaten path for real fun.
My further advice for longer stay travelers IE 90 days or more is live outside of the tourist districts. Your 35 K baht condo in Asoke is 11 K across the river.
For my upcoming trip I think I'm either going to be in Bang Sue, or Thonburi again.Surprise Surprise Surprise.
Well I was.
I found a 30 day rate for 25,000 smack dab in the middle of Nana area. Could be my go to Hotel. Checking in today. Was charged a Holiday Fee of extra money but that seems legit.
Fish Talk got me thinking. Buy a Fish at tops, fully cooked, make your own meal. I did last night and was surprised how good it was. McDonald's fries and you got fish and chips. Add vegetables and it's a whole meal.
Red Snapper for high class folks at 125 baht or for you low class Tilapia at 59 baht.
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now. The New York Times reported that it was available in numerous locations and easy to buy, but that there is a backlash against pot, and that the law was almost certainly changing. They added that this might happen by January, just as my wingman and I are supposed to visit. I do not smoke marijuana, but he always smuggles some into the country (against my advice! We are both old guys in suits, so we do not look like pot smugglers, but I would like to be able to tell him not to bother this time.
Thanks.Walking from Soi Cowboy to Nana, I spotted 6 or 7 shops at least. And that's just stores directly on Sukhumvit.
A few tidbits about the bars from my trip a couple of weeks ago.
Soi Cowboy:
Crazy House: Lots of naked girls. A lot fewer girls post lockdown and looks like the average age went up to late 20's to 30's, unlike prior years where this place seemed to specialise in early 20's girls. Still crowded AF though with customers. It's like 5 or 6 customers per girl in there. Still they're all buck naked and will grind on your lap for a while if you get them a drink. Mamasan's just send them back to dance after a few minutes if you don't keep buying. First night wasn't so bad. Second night This one mamasan literally kept pestering me to buy drinks what seemed like every couple of minutes. I don't understand some of the customers though, I would never stay in a place like this unless there's a girl on my lap.
Baccara: Bigger place than Crazy House. Way more girls. But most of them in Bikinis. Upstairs there were some topless and a couple naked. Mostly east asian customers looking bored. It was like they're in an opium den. The place is a full on fire hazard. Stayed there for a drink, played with one of the topless girls a bit, but not a lot happened.
Tilac: If you want to spend enjoyable time with one or two girls without being pressured for drinks and you don't mind them not being naked, this is the place. The music is more Hip Hop & EDM DJ music, rather than the thai bop being played in the other places. Even though the girls aren't naked you can get handsy with the girls and they with you after you get them a drink. A tip here and there also helps. After a couple of drinks and a 100 baht note to get access to her pants I was basicall fingerfucking a girl while she was giving me a full on handjob while making out.
Most of the other bars are a sorry sight with some just boarded up. Afterskool used to be one of my favourites. But now seeing out of shape women in their 40's wearing school uniform costumes sitting outside the place I didn't even want to go inside.
Nana Plaza:
Spanky's: Fun girls. Mostly in bikinis or shorts or hotpants, but with a drink your hands can wander. Also these girls are more active and forward than other bars without being pushy.
Rainbow Bars: There are so many Rainbow bars. I can't remember which one, but only one of them was busy but mostly with girls in bikinis. The one in the right corner in the back of Nana Plaza had no customers, but still about 4 girls dancing in the stage and a few girls sitting around. One of the girls did kind of look cute, so I sat with her for a drink and the mamasan was just sitting with us too. She still seemed cute up close and was fine with a bit of a fondle, so I just pretty much started undressing her. The mamasan told me I should barfine her and go to the short time hotel. I told her how about I barfine the girl but stay and give the mamasan the short time hotel fee instead? So the girl and I just went a bit further in away from the entrance and had full on sex. The mamasan did put a net curtain like veil on us for modesty. : the.
Geisha: Bustling. Good music. Jacuzzi by the left side of the bar with naked soaped up girls. Bought one of the cute slim spinners a couple of drinks while she was in it and for a bit of a tip played with her pussy and even gave it a tongue lashing. When her jacuzzi shift was done, paid her 200 be to not put her bikini back on while she sat on my lap for a bit of fondling. The mamasan made her put on her bikini after a bit though. There's also a shower show on the other side, but it's stupid because there's no seats around it.
Billboard: Also bustling and with good music. Also has a really good and bigger jacuzzi area. The girls are naked and fun here too, but weren't up for getting their pussy eaten out. OK with some handy fun though. The girls on the main stage in the middle aren't naked, but a lot of them were hot. I think the girls here were probably the youngest I saw. A lot looking like they're early to mid 20's. Quite fun too, when sitting in the seats at the back. Not as much as that empty Rainbow bar. : the.
Butterflies: Another big bar with decent music, but I found the girls less attractive than Geisha and Billboard. Also less busy. Still had a few drinks with a couple of girls sitting with me. They were also happy to get quite handsy in the bar.
I did pop into a few other bars, I popped in, but don't really remember anything worth talking about. Pretty sure Angelwitch also seemed OK (as in not dead), but nothing outstanding there.
Can someone update me on whether marijuana is easily available in Thailand right now.It is available for sale everywhere. Totally legal. Numerous storefronts in the tourist areas. Many sellers on the street.
Prices are expensive. More than California. The good quality chronic is mainly imported. It seems to be around 800 baht per gram. Although I talked to one guy. He said his stuff came from an indoor operation in Thailand. His stuff was 700 baht per gram. Obviously, the prices will drop when the Thais learn how to mass produce good quality indoor weed. They will eventually learn how to grow good outdoor quality weed. You need to supplement light (during growth) and subtract light (during budding).
You also have cheap outdoor stuff (from SE Asia) available. Not good quality. Weed is not tight; not much crystals. Taste is poor. Price I think was about 100 baht per gram. That still seems expensive for cheap stuff grown locally.
It will take a while for the Thai government to crack down, IMO, if ever. Not sure why people would be scared of weed on the street. It's out in the open. If you are an expert, you can see the quality. Pesticide potential is the same as in store fronts. Also, there has to be pesticide even in the some of the weed you buy in California. Everyone will spray at the first signs of infestation if you have huge money involved. Don't even trust the legal stores with the government testing requirement in California. The grower has to supply the testing company once every one or two years; and of course you will give the company your best weed free of pesticide.
AsianWinkie
12-11-22, 08:18
Was at the hotel watching the Croatia. Brazil game (yay Croatia!) when I had a thought: this game would better with a blowjob.
An internet search came up with this establishment, so I took the plunge. I communicated with them over chat and they provided me with a price list and asked me for my preferences. I told him that I was in the mood for someone who is very petite and if possible was good at deep throat as well. They said that they didn't really have anybody who is a deep throat specialist but he sent me over a pic of a recommendation. The picture didn't give the clearest view of her face but upon recollection, after meeting her I can say that the picture was accurate. So I made a reservation and they told me that the therapist could show up within the next 60 minutes. Almost exactly 60 minutes later I received a phone call from reception confirming that I was going to let her up and two minutes after that I heard a soft knock at the door.
Now I'm 6 foot three and about 235 pounds; The figure that stood in front of me could not have been more than 5 foot and I honestly doubt if she was more than 90 pounds soaking wet. But despite her small frame this woman had a really nice figure. She had a cute smile with full vicious lips and long natural eyelashes that would flutter every time she would smile. She was a second year political science student at the local university and it was originally from Chiang Rai. She knew enough English for us to be able to have simple conversations and we put in the gaps with Google translate or body language. After a few awkward moments in my Living Room where we tried to break the ice, I made a joke that made her laugh and put her at ease. She asked if it was OK if we took a shower and a motion to the other room to direct to where it was. This prompted another nervous giggle and she said that it would be a lot more fun if we took a shower together. Who was I to argue with that logic?
For such a petite girl she had a nice round butt, and perky delicious looking tits. She got some body wash and lather up her hands and then begin to reach up as high as she could start applying the suds to my neck, my shoulders, my chest, my midsection and then she reached down and brought my cock to life. This is when she spun me around to wash my derrire and she proceeded to wash and pull up my balls while she did a reach around. Now remember the size difference, so in order to reach around she had to press her self up against the small of my back to get full access. After a few soft wet kisses we finished a shower dried off and made our way to the bed. She then proceeded to give me a very sensual and therapeutic body rub. A few times as she was massaging the backs of my thighs, she was reach under and stroke my balls. I told her that I wouldn't mind it if she would tug at them and pull at the sack. She took directions well and when she realized that I really like to be serviced from behind, she raised my hips and then begin stroking my cock while I was facedown and up on my knees. It was after a few minutes of this that I felt her soft lips wrapped around my cock and she began to blow me from behind.
She then asked me to turn around and lie on my back. This is when I got another 15 minute massage on my chest, stomach and front of my thighs. She repositioned herself to sit between my legs and she told me that I should put a pillow under my head to get more comfortable. She then gave me a link and said this will make it easier for you to watch me. And that's what I did. For the next 10 to 15 minutes I looked on in amazement as this petite girl swallowed me whole. All the while she was massaging my anus and she was really good at reacting to my physical cues and moans. Occasionally she would move her head down and suck at each of my balls while continuing to massage me down there. I had just arrived in Bangkok after more than 28 hours of travel and my body was still feeling the effects. Honestly I didn't have it in me for an acrobatic session so I just lay back and let her continue to do what she was doing for a little over 40 minutes. And never did she give any indication that she was getting frustrated or impatient with me. In fact, she seem to enjoy finding out what things she could do to me that would elicit a moan or a groan. When I felt the climax building up, I let her know but she didn't even flinch as she continued to do whatever she could to get as much of me in her mouth as possible.
All this, and the team I was rooting for won the game.
A good night in Bangkok indeed.
I'm going to go have breakfast now. I slept like a baby.
https://bodyblissbangkok.com/Great review. I can't wait to be there in January. Can you share the name of the girl?
I mean, lets not BS ourselves. There's no need to buy these girls drinks or any of that shit anyways. All they want is your money, if you want to bang them, just do it and forget the lady drinks.
Imagine bar hopping. You showing your 10 to everyone. You the Man.
Then all her Friends show up wanting a Drinkie-. Are you Brave enough to say F. K OFF.
Your $200 barfine might cost you $500 or more depending on your constitution. Haha.
I've seen it numerous times a guy sits at a Rainbow with his Brown Barfine. Over time one thinks that's a lot of drinks that guy is Buying. Everyone having a good time except him.
Actually, yes. Well, "Fuck Off" would be too harsh. But I will buy 1 Lady Drink for 1 of my chosen girl's "friend, sister, cousin", whatever. Then when the follow up friend, sister, cousin shows up asking for a drink and I don't want to buy them one I simply wai, smile and say "Mai dai. " (can not). I will even refuse that way when my girl asks me to buy one for them if I am not interested in meeting the new girl.For me, is there really a contradiction in the various opinions here. One, of course she wants your money, it's business. But, you can have fun while conducting business, and I CAN and DO talk with the girl, making it clear, with an "OK, ONE", or (not as erudite as Mr. Tooms; thanks for the new phrase), but I can and do say (English), "No, cannot" with a shrug of my shoulders. In 29 years, I've never been stabbed, spit on, hit, induced tears, induced a temper tantrum, received a cold shoulder, etc. Because she does want my money. As far as HER losing face? NOPE. Because she DID ask, and it's not HER fault she's with a Cheap Charlie. Me losing face? They know a player when they see one. I don't need to impress them with my largesse; that's bush league. Now I might not be correct, but in my own mind, to my satisfaction, I understand the purpose of her request: insurance with reciprocity. Serves to level out the feast / famine of the business. She contributes a drink to her friend; when the situation is reversed, the friend does so to her. But it is one drink for a friend if I so choose, and one for her if I've ordered one when traveling.
There has been a few exceptions: if the primary target has LIMITED English, we're having a GREAT time, and she brings over a friend who can translate. AFTER a period of time, I will buy both a lady drink because, like HoustonPlayer I am enjoying the company / conversation. Now, I can't say if the subsequent entertainment has been specifically reduced due to my refusal of multiple drinks. I wouldn't know, because given I've had a good time, the friendly banter, before leaving a STRONG indication I'll have a good time later, IMHO. I've never had anyone try the bring back a NUMBER of drinks; MY experience, the girls are VERY astute in sussing YOU out within minutes, especially if you've been talking with her.
For me, it's simple to find someone to have sex with. The challenge, readily accepted, is to find those that are multi-dimensional fun. Those are the Line's obtained, and before that, the phone numbers (ah, Line so much simpler and cheaper).
And that's me, SMILING, having a good time, in the bar AND back in the room. Again, thanks for the update, HoustonPlayer.
HaHa spa guys telling go-go guys how to spend their money. I love it. I never go to a Go-Go bar looking to barfine a lady. I go because I like drinking with my friends and my favorite girls. Also I can afford to do it. If I want to have sex and I mean great sex just the way I prefer it I text one of my many lady friends to come over.
I only occasionally barfine a lady and it's not to have sex but because we're having such a good time together. I'm most likely already too drunk to enjoy sex to a satisfatory finish anyway. If I want to have sex with her I'll tell her to come over the next day when I'm not drinking.It's definitely different environments between a visitor and a resident. I've only been a visitor in BKK so when I would hit a bar, the primary purpose would be to look for company that night. A drink, maybe 2, as I'd much prefer relaxing back in my room with said company. Now, I was a resident in DXB, and would hit a club, mostly alone, sometimes with friends, for dinner, some soft drinks (I'd drive), listen to a great live band, and, when ready to leave, leave with some company for LT. Like you said, a phone full of regulars, so easy to call when you want to stay in. They were ALWAYS compensated (everyone in DXB is of the "come DXB, make money, go home" ilk). But as to selection, the same criteria applies: the banter BEFORE leaving.
They added that this might happen by January, just as my wingman and I are supposed to visit. I do not smoke marijuana, but he always smuggles some into the country (against my advice! We are both old guys in suits, so we do not look like pot smugglers, but I would like to be able to tell him not to bother this time.THIS time? That's a bozo-no-no, traveling with ANYONE carrying drugs, regardless of dress. Well, unless you're looking to star in the newest addition of "Banged Up Abroad". It never happens until it does.
ChuchoLoco
12-11-22, 14:59
I mean, lets not BS ourselves. There's no need to buy these girls drinks or any of that shit anyways. All they want is your money, if you want to bang them, just do it and forget the lady drinks.You are correct GM and I would only add that all we want is their mouth, poos and azz. Seems like a decent trade. Drinks are an option and an individual's choice. If it works do it but don't be the fool.
Member #4813
12-11-22, 17:10
THIS time? That's a bozo-no-no, traveling with ANYONE carrying drugs, regardless of dress. Well, unless you're looking to star in the newest addition of "Banged Up Abroad". It never happens until it does.I don't bring in the pot, my friend does. I have told him not to do this, but I am not his mother and I cannot stop him. I am not certain how he hides the stuff and I do not go through Immigration and Customs with him so if he gets arrested, I won't be going with him to jail.
Those are the limits to my caution as I have found that many of the girls have marijuana on them. I know this, because he often smokes with them, and when I meet the same girls (we sometimes trade girls when we find good ones), they know we are friends and ask me if I want to smoke. When I tell them I don't have weed, they sometimes light up their own. Would you advise me to kick them out of my hotel room?
In any case, as marijuana has been decriminalized, I imagine he might get off rather lightly.
By the way, the only drug I partake in is scotch whiskey.
I don't bring in the pot, my friend does. I have told him not to do this, but I am not his mother and I cannot stop him. I am not certain how he hides the stuff and I do not go through Immigration and Customs with him so if he gets arrested, I won't be going with him to jail.
Those are the limits to my caution as I have found that many of the girls have marijuana on them. I know this, because he often smokes with them, and when I meet the same girls (we sometimes trade girls when we find good ones), they know we are friends and ask me if I want to smoke. When I tell them I don't have weed, they sometimes light up their own. Would you advise me to kick them out of my hotel room?
In any case, as marijuana has been decriminalized, I imagine he might get off rather lightly.
By the way, the only drug I partake in is scotch whiskey.Why would you bring Marijuana into Thailand. It is available for sale in Bangkok and Pattaya, legally, on every street corner.
Member #4813
12-11-22, 19:13
Why would you bring Marijuana into Thailand. It is available for sale in Bangkok and Pattaya, legally, on every street corner.Its good to read its easily available in BKK. In fact, availability was my question (see FR 52688).
My thanks to everyone who answered my query, even the ones who think my friend is crazy for having brought marijuana into BKK every year for the last decade, and were not shy about telling me so. For the record, I agree.
Member #4813
12-11-22, 19:19
Was at the hotel watching the Croatia. Brazil game (yay Croatia!) when I had a thought: this game would better with a blowjob.
An internet search came up with this establishment, so I took the plunge. I communicated with them over chat and they provided me with a price list and asked me for my preferences.////////A good night in Bangkok indeed.
I'm going to go have breakfast now. I slept like a baby.
https://bodyblissbangkok.com/This agency is clearly worth exploring. I read their website and it states, "Body Bliss is an erotic outcall massage Bangkok service that focuses solely on ensuring our customers have all of their dreams fulfilled. " My dream is to have the beautiful girl who gave me an exquisite blow job follow up by fucking me bareback. Do you know if BBFS is on the menu?
Great review. I can't wait to be there in January. Can you share the name of the girl?Mee too my friend, but she won't be, or if she is, she will have another name, assuming she gave hime the right name in the first place, or it will be a common name anyway and you will waste your time finding someone who doesn't exist.
Unless you yourself have her Line.
Remember, in Thailand, the rule is if you want to change your luck or avoid evil spirits or Kru Khmer, change your name.
Mee too my friend, but she won't be, or if she is, she will have another name, assuming she gave hime the right name in the first place, or it will be a common name anyway and you will waste your time finding someone who doesn't exist.
Unless you yourself have her Line.
Remember, in Thailand, the rule is if you want to change your luck or avoid evil spirits or Kru Khmer, change your name.Why, for the keepers, you want to always get (or at least ask for) their Line. Makes it easy to directly reconnect with them again even if they have changed shops, employers, aliases, etc. And because you are communicating directly, eliminates substitutions from shop if common name of replacement employee.
This agency is clearly worth exploring. I read their website and it states, "Body Bliss is an erotic outcall massage Bangkok service that focuses solely on ensuring our customers have all of their dreams fulfilled. " My dream is to have the beautiful girl who gave me an exquisite blow job follow up by fucking me bareback. Do you know if BBFS is on the menu?You seen their site, you like it, email them and ask, and you will have first hand information bud!
Someone asked why more guys arent touchy feely in CRAZY HOUSE agogo.
My general experience is that those that allow that are of the beach road pattaya quality type. No Thank You.
First of all, shout out to Newton York for his detailed treasure trove of a report.
Prelude (skip if you want to get to the juicy bits):
This is a story of how I fucked up and ended up in Bangkok alone, tired, and horny.
Some useful info. My age is in the early 40's, I'm ethnically Chinese and can pass for Thai until the locals start speaking to me in Thai.
It actually begins while I was visiting family in a nearby Asian country and decided to satisfy my urges by using one of the many online services to book a lady. She ended up being Thai and after my many sessions of 8, 4, and 4 hours and spending way to much money, I had to return back to the states. We kept in touch by line and she was being proactive and reaching out to me with "I miss you" messages and photos of her civilian life at home and with friends. So I made an impulsive decision to book a one way ticket to Bangkok just to see her again.
After 40 hours that included an 8 hour layover in Los Angeles and 14 hours in Tokyo, I finally arrive in Bangkok weary but excited to see her. However, you can probably guess what happens next.
This is when she started taking a long time to respond to my texts. It would sometimes take anywhere from 12 to 24 hours before she responded. Finally, she told me she was working at a bar and that she was too tired after work to do anything. She said it was a bar called Eric and she gets drunk every night. I'm guessing it's a go go bar but who knows. Then comes the sob story. Her mom owes money and she is making money to help her mom pay it back. That is the only reason she is working at the bar just for two weeks.
But but but, she told me if I was willing to help out and give her 45,000 be then she can take a couple days off work to spend with me instead.
I almost make the rookie mistake of agreeing to help out, but then I came to my senses and decided to cut my losses. After all, I was in Bangkok solo, with two weeks to go, and there are plenty of opportunities to get satisfaction. And guess what? It's been 48 hours and she hasn't even sent me a message.
MAIN:
So here I am in Bangkok with a wallet full of Bahts and all the cute civilians making me horny.
I was here five years previously with my family and stayed at the Hilton Sukhumvit. Unbeknownst to me at the time, there is a ton of massage / soapy / brothels within spitting distance of the hotel and the Phrom Phong BTS station. This time I came prepared so I decided to stay at the same location.
Day 1.
102 Massage Bangkok.
I decided to shake off my foolishness by visiting the same massage place I've been to five years ago. The girls were all lounging outside but they all same in and stood in a line up when I arrived. The same French guy was there directing the ladies and he named each of the girls in the line up. I was in the mood for someone tall and thin with a pretty face so I decided on Joy. The other girls didn't seem too happy and were making some comments in Thai LOL.
We went up to the counter together and I paid about 2700 for 1 hour and also got her a lady drink for 160. After the bill was settled, she led me upstairs to a room and told me to get comfortable while she went to get her little basket of toiletries. I took off all my clothes and sat on the bed to wait while she was gone. When she came back, she was shocked to find me completely naked. We had a laugh about it and we proceeded to get showered. After she washed me down, she had me lay face down on the bed and gave me a non professional but still enjoyable massage.
On the flip is where the fun started and I'm sure most of you know the routine already. Licking nipples, stroking the cock, light uncovered BJ, then on comes the condom and cowgirl. After a minute or two of her on top, she asked to switch and have me do the work in missionary. I return the favor and start licking her nipples and then kissing my way down to her pussy. I started eating her out but she wasn't able to handle it because she is ticklish. Which incidentally I have noticed half the Thai women have the same issue. I proceeded to put a pillow under her ass as that tends to give me a better position to hit her g spot in missionary. I went at it for another 5 to 10 minutes or so in various styles with me on top before I shot my load.
After she cleaned me up, we lay on the bed for a little bit chatting until my time was up. I find out that she is from Hua Hin and will be returning home in a couple days. We parted ways and I went home to my hotel satisfied and caught up on some much needed sleep.
Day 2.
I'm a romantic at heart, so I enjoy making connections with my lady friends and really insist of GFE when deciding on my encounters. Which plays into what happens later this night and one of the reasons I came to Bangkok expecting everything and getting nothing. I hope nobody else makes the same mistake and if they do there are ways to recover from it.
I've been to Bangkok before so I've already seen all the usual sights. I wanted to get out and do something so I took the BTS to Chatuchak weekend market for some lunch and people watching. OMG was the market huge. I spent about 3 hours there and didn't even cover a fraction of it. They sell pretty much anything and everything, and even though it was geared towards tourists it was something to behold. It was also hot as sweaty balls but I also saw many cute and hot civvies, which got my engines going again.
Kamagra at Southeast Pharmacy.
While riding the BTS on the way back from Chatuchak, I decided to get some medical aid for my mattress mambo activities. From other posts, Kamagra seems to be the go to and Southeast Pharmacy next to Nana BTS Station was conveniently on the way back to the hotel.
FYI: There are conflicting reports on whether you need a prescription to buy Kamagra. I was able to buy a pack without any issue. A pack of 8, variety flavor, was 400 be. Kamagra comes in little gel packs, similar to those hydration energy packs you would take for hiking or other outdoor activities. They are flavored such as vanilla, grape, orange, etc but they still have a horrible aftertaste.
And of course, as luck would have it, as soon as I left the pharmacy I saw plenty or road side vendors selling Kamagra on their tables. As to whether they are genuine or not, I didn't want to take the chance that they are counterfeit.
Thermae.
I've read a lot about Thermae on this forum and wanted to try something different from the usual massage place or go go bar. Which incidentally I still haven't been to a go go bar.
Thermae opens at 20:00 so I took a nap to regain some energy. At about 19:30 I took my dose of Kamagra and headed out. By the time I got there, which I didn't realize was right next door to Southeast Pharmacy, the place was already pretty packed.
First thing when you walk down to the basement to enter is a guy turning you towards the bar to buy your required 1 drink. I paid 120 be for a beer and then turned around to survey the place.
The majority of the girls stood by the walls or booths on the perimeter of the room. The center area has bar tops where a lot of guys seem to be sitting and nursing their beers while gawking at the girls. It feels oddly like a high school dance except all the socially awkward kids are in the middle and the pretty girls were the wall flies. Like other posters have mentioned, the vast majority of johns were East Asians. Think Japanese, Korean, and a sprinkling of Chinese. There were also some Indians but I don't really recall seeing any white guys. The girls won't approach you, they will only make eye contact and might smile at you, so it's up to you to take the initiative and approach them to being negotiations.
It also reminded me of a school of fish in the ocean. There were groups of guys that would circle the room checking out the girls and it was always in the clockwise direction. It was pretty funny seeing the action.
As mentioned earlier I'm a romantic so I started making my approaches asking for Long Time. It was early so half the girls I talked to only wanted Short Time. Of the ones were willing to go LT, I got quoted anywhere from 7000 to 10000. Some wanted to leave at 04:00 and other were willing to stay until 07:00. After I got the price, I started asking for my requirements such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc etc.
These girls are all Freelancers, with day jobs, so they can set their own price and conditions. Seven unsuccessful attempts later, I finally found one that met all my requirements. 7000 LT, braces, 152 cm, 46 kg, looks to be in her early 20's but is actually 30, her name is Ai. I know, I know, 7000 is a lot but by that time I was fatigued by all the choices and just wanted to get back to my hotel room with a lady and I've never been with a brace face before. By the time I left with my girl, it was 20:45 and I've only seen a handful of guys leave the bar with a girl. Most of the other guys were still awkwardly staring at the girls and nursing their drinks.
As soon as we stepped out on to the street, we were approached by the taxi rank representative. He asked me where we were going and I was quoted 200 be to get back to the Hilton. I already knew it was overpriced but at that point I didn't care. Ai and I made some small talk during the ride and her English was pretty decent. It didn't take long to get ack to the Hotel and I speed walked us past reception and to the elevator, since I wasn't sure if the hotel was guest friendly.
We got up to my hotel room without incident and Ai proceeded to make herself at home. After some small talk she went to take a shower and get herself ready. When she was done I went for a shower as well. I got out of the shower and she was already under the covers.
I should also mention I'm clean shaven down under, and girls seem to appreciate this and makes you look safer disease wise and makes them more willing perform extra services.
She began with the usual routine, kissing and licking my nipples, then stroking my cock. This led to licking of my balls and shaft. After I bit I guided her up and proceed with some passionate DFK. I flipped her on her back and kissed and licked her body all the way down to her pussy, which was all natural and unshaven. She was a bit embarrassed so she held her pussy hair out of the way while I ate her out. I dined down there for a good 15 minutes and she really seemed to enjoy it. I would have kept going but she stopped me as she was getting too sensitive.
It was my turn so she put a condom on my cock and we started with missionary. We tried various positions with her on her back for about 10-15 minutes. I've had a few drinks before hand so it was taking a while to cum and I think she was getting sore because after a bit she said it was getting painful. We settled on sideways spoon and after 3 minutes I finished. She jumped up and ran to the bathroom while saying, so much cum, so much cum. I found it hilarious.
After we both cleaned up, we headed out to grab some food since I was feeling a bit peckish. It was late and a lot of shops are closed so choices were limited. We ended up at a restaurant called Great Shanghai that was still open. I ordered 2 dishes, 2 eggs, rice, and 2 drinks. Total damage was 280 be.
Once we filled up we headed back to the hotel for round 2. Like before, made some small talk. She showed me photo of her family including her fat older sister and the sister's trans boyfriend. She also told me she was 1 of 6 siblings. She had a Japanese ex-boyfriend etc etc. She dislikes alcohol but was vaping the whole time while in my room haha.
02:00 rolled around and I was ready for round 2, so we got in bed and proceed to do the deed. I finished quicker this time and she made her run to the bathroom right after wards. She got cleaned up and we parted ways at around 03:00. I could have held her longer but she had an hour ride back to her home and I was feeling tired anyways. I got her line and phone number and we agreed to meet again the next day.
I think I've already written too much so I'll save to the rest for another post. To be continued.
This agency is clearly worth exploring. I read their website and it states, "Body Bliss is an erotic outcall massage Bangkok service that focuses solely on ensuring our customers have all of their dreams fulfilled. " My dream is to have the beautiful girl who gave me an exquisite blow job follow up by fucking me bareback. Do you know if BBFS is on the menu?As stated, you can email them and ask.
Now, if by "exquisite blowjob" you mean at least a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, then with the addition of BBFS+CIP as the "fulfilled dreams" you tell them you are looking for, their reply ought to be quite interesting.
I would say any reply in the affirmative from any Escort Agency, Massage Shop or so-called PSE Happy Ending Shop in the country for either of those perfectly reasonable "dreams" that many, many punters would dearly love to have "fulfilled" would be rather Earth-shattering news here and skyrocket that agency or shop to the top of the most popular and successful Thai pay for sex businesses of all time.
So please do report the replies you get from those emails.
Someone asked why more guys arent touchy feely in CRAZY HOUSE agogo.
My general experience is that those that allow that are of the beach road pattaya quality type. No Thank You.I remember once a few years going into Windmill just off Walking Street in Pattaya. It has the same reputation for raunchy behavior and there was some of that behavior going on when I walked in. However, the quality of the girls left a lot to be desired and I walked out but not before a small chat with one really hot PYT that the mamasan was keeping off the floor in preparation for a big payout.
First of all, shout out to Newton York for his detailed treasure trove of a report.Agreed, Newton York's reports very helpful in leading me to new places.
And really enjoyed your FR's. Proof that detailed and informative FR's can be written even by new members here if not to the hobby itself. Well done.
But but but, she told me if I was willing to help out and give her 45,000 be then she can take a couple days off work to spend with me instead.
I almost make the rookie mistake of agreeing to help out, but then I came to my senses and decided to cut my losses.OBVIOUSLY a wise move. Any smart wg will have her client list. For the good ones, win-win: you can contact her for a legit meet, she can have customers who will look her up. For the bad ones, who try and pluck their flock, time to lose that contact.
so I took the BTS to Chatuchak weekend market for some lunch and people watching. To repeat myself, while the BTS does go to Chatuchak, Mo Chit stop, it's a bit of a walk and you enter on, for me, the less interesting side of the market. I always switch from BTS to MRT at Asoke, and take the MRT to Kamphaeng Phet, NOT Chatuchak PARK. Kamphaen Phet is right at the edge of the, for me, interesting side of the market. A walk in the park can be nice, but, on a hot day ....
While riding the BTS on the way back from Chatuchak, I decided to get some medical aid for my mattress mambo activities. From other posts, Kamagra seems to be the go to and Southeast Pharmacy next to Nana BTS Station was conveniently on the way back to the hotel.
FYI: There are conflicting reports on whether you need a prescription to buy Kamagra. I was able to buy a pack without any issue.MY limited experience, Thailand is an enlightened country so any non-narcotic drug can be bought without a prescription. As with certain other countries, you're an adult, if you want to put this in your body, up to you. Personally, I take the orange, not the blue, but no prescription needed. Anything that goes into my body comes from a pharmacy, not the street, right FOR ME.
And as for SouthEast Pharmacy. As I've said, I've used them for decades. Just this trip, got a request via some Thai friends of a request for some antibiotics from their relatives in Laos, which included a picture of the desired antibiotics. Went to SouthEast; they didn't have but recommend an equivalent, 200 baht for a package, 10 boxes of 10 or 20 pills each. Now, probably any pharmacy would have done the same, but I TRUST SouthEast.
Thermae.
The majority of the girls stood by the walls or booths on the perimeter of the room. The center area has bar tops where a lot of guys seem to be sitting and nursing their beers while gawking at the girls. It feels oddly like a high school dance except all the socially awkward kids are in the middle and the pretty girls were the wall flies.
It also reminded me of a school of fish in the ocean. There were groups of guys that would circle the room checking out the girls and it was always in the clockwise direction. It was pretty funny seeing the action.Seems some things never change. Liked your description. I call them wolf packs. One would think that a group of guys surrounding a girl would be off-putting for her. Myself, I always hunted alone, preferring a solo tête-à-tête, and NOT needing the approbation of others of my decisions. Sounds like you're the same.
As soon as we stepped out on to the street, we were approached by the taxi rank representative. He asked me where we were going and I was quoted 200 be to get back to the Hilton. I already knew it was overpriced but at that point I didn't care. Frequently happens outside bars / clubs anywhere. My solution is to walk a block away, and flag a passing taxi. Certainly at that hour, plenty would be passing. Not so much the money, but the princlple .... Besides, a passing taxi will have its a/c running, a parked one probably not.
I know, I know, 7000 is a lot but by that time I was fatigued by all the choices and just wanted to get back to my hotel room with a lady
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She got cleaned up and we parted ways at around 03:00. I could have held her longer but she had an hour ride back to her home and I was feeling tired anyways. I got her line and phone number and we agreed to meet again the next day.Sounds like you had a good time, and if the price was OK for you, then it was a good deal. Two more hours in the club looking, she leaves 2 hours later from your hotel, but it's the SAME absolute time. I always enjoy the time in the room more than the time in the club, more entertaining.
Member #4813
12-13-22, 05:16
As stated, you can email them and ask.
Now, if by "exquisite blowjob" you mean at least a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, then with the addition of BBFS+CIP as the "fulfilled dreams" you tell them you are looking for, their reply ought to be quite interesting.
I would say any reply in the affirmative from any Escort Agency, Massage Shop or so-called PSE Happy Ending Shop in the country for either of those perfectly reasonable "dreams" that many, many punters would dearly love to have "fulfilled" would be rather Earth-shattering news here and skyrocket that agency or shop to the top of the most popular and successful Thai pay for sex businesses of all time.
So please do report the replies you get from those emails.I asked if they had any girls who did sex without condom and they replied, "No have."
ThaiGoodTimes
12-13-22, 06:51
As stated, you can email them and ask.
Now, if by "exquisite blowjob" you mean at least a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, then with the addition of BBFS+CIP as the "fulfilled dreams" you tell them you are looking for, their reply ought to be quite interesting.
I would say any reply in the affirmative from any Escort Agency, Massage Shop or so-called PSE Happy Ending Shop in the country for either of those perfectly reasonable "dreams" that many, many punters would dearly love to have "fulfilled" would be rather Earth-shattering news here and skyrocket that agency or shop to the top of the most popular and successful Thai pay for sex businesses of all time.
So please do report the replies you get from those emails.Oh, you of little faith Eihtooms.
Disney did say that dreams may come true.
DAY 3.
After a long leisurely morning it was lunch time and I was getting hungry so I decided to head out for food. The Hilton I'm staying at is right across the street from EmQuartier, so I headed over to the food court in their basement and wow, was I overwhelmed. I'm used to food courts in department stores across Asia but I was still blown away by the sheer size and number of options I found here.
Not only were options plentiful, they were quite affordable and delicious. I absolutely could have gotten street food cheaper, but I wanted air conditioning. I got some lunch and then wandered around the place for a couple hours before heading back to the hotel for a nice nap.
On the way back, I got a text from last night's lady asking when I want to meet up. I asked her if she wanted to have dinner at 19:30 but like most of the Free Lance girls at Thermae they have day jobs and she has work until 20:00. We settled on meeting at 21:00 at my hotel and we can decide what to do from there.
Ai texts me at 21:00 that she is down in the hotel lobby, so I go down to bring her back to my room. She was dressed in a little black to and black skater skirt, very cute if I do say so. She mentioned that she worked all day and since she was the only one in her clothing store she was quite tired. I then made the suggestion that we go get massages since there were plenty of shops just down the street.
My first choice was Nature Thai Massage but when I inquired, the receptionist said they were fully booked that night. So I decided to go next door to Thai Thai massage. They had plenty of masseuses and I opted for the 90 minute Thai massage for 600 pp. The massage was painful and not very private, but it did relieve some tension in my body. The masseuses were talking to each other throughout the session so it wasn't as serene as I had in mind. We finished up the massage and then headed back to the hotel.
Once in the hotel room, Ai made herself comfortable again. It was at this point that I realize I should have a soft limit of repeat encounters with any one lady. They seem to get too comfortable with me and that slight edge of anticipation and apprehension is no longer there. I say this because Ai plops herself down on the chair and start browsing Facebook and TikTok. She doesn't make any move to undress, she's vaping while playing on her phone, and it just feels like she's sitting on her couch at home relaxing. I hop in the shower hoping she takes a hint, and she does! When I got out she also went to take a shower and joined me in bed once she was done.
What followed was a bit disappointing. She did her routine of licking nipples, stroking cock, licking shaft and ballsack, but no BJ. She said she didn't like the taste of the penis. Ok, no problem, I'm not too big a fan of amateur BJ anyways, so we skip to the main event. I flipped her on the back and start DFK, then licking her breast and nipples, slowly working my way down to her pussy. This is when she stopped me saying that her pussy was too sensitive and she didn't want me licking down there. Hmm, okay fine, I won't force her to do something she's not comfortable with. So we go to the standard missionary position. I go for a good 5 minutes but I can tell she was just not that into it this time around. I finish up in about another 3 minutes, cumming on her belly, and she did her run to the bathroom to clean up.
After the shower, she started putting her clothes on, so I could tell she wanted to leave. Since it was only one pop, I was wondering if there would be a discount. I asked her how much and laughs at me and says same as last night! No discount for me. 7000 be again. I give her the money, she says thanks, and she leaves.
We talked earlier about going to Kashikiri Soda Onsen the next day, but after tonight's experience I wasn't willing to shell out another 7000 be and at least 3000 be for the Onsen just for the pleasure of her company.
It's 03:00 so I'm done for the day.
DAY 4.
This is day I found Newton York's FR. I spent the morning reading through it and make my game plan for the day. I decide on Happybkk Massage and call to make booking for Haru. No go, receptionist said she's on holiday and won't be back until the weekend. Okay, no problem, Noey was also highly recommended, so I make a booking for her at 13:30.
I show up, pay, and was escorted upstairs by Noey. She's just as described, short, petite, beautiful, and always smiling. Her smile is super alluring and it really turned me on. The walk upstairs to the 4th floor was something. She was ahead and made sure you got a great view of her ass in her tight dress while she gyrated up the stairs. She let me to the room, turned on the hot water for the hot tub, and asked me to wait a bit while she went to get her little basket.
When she got back, we proceeded to undress and got in the tub. I would estimate her age at about 30 ish. She's still quite petite but her body isn't as tone as a 20 year old's. She has natural Asian see-cup breasts. She gave me the best soapy wash I've had in Bangkok so far, gentle, sexy, and very GFE. Every time I turn around and see her face, she is smiling coyly at me. With both of us clean, we commenced with the soapy massage. This was my first time experiencing this and wow was it something. Lots of licking, stroking, gliding, breast stroking. She said I can cum once in the tub and once in bed, no worry, relax she says. It's very rare for me to cum from a BJ or HJ so after a while I said she could stop, but she told me to just relax and let her do all the work.
Noey is the hardest working girl I've even met, she just keeps going and doesn't seem bored or wanted to complain. If you are into BJ or HJ to completion she would be the perfect lady for you. At this point my dick was getting a bit sore so I asked her to move to the bed. She rinsed us off, and led me to the bed.
She licked my earlobes while moaning heavily into them, then moved down and licked my nipples and kissed her way down to my cock. She proceeded to give me an amazing BJ. It was a little toothy at times but maybe it's because her mouth is so small. After 10 minutes, out comes the lube and condom. She slicked the condom on while giving me a BJ, then proceeded to straddle me cowgirl style. She started by rocking back and forth, grinding her pelvis against mine, then after a while switched to pumping up and down. Her pussy was so tight I was about to pop, so I asked her to switch positions and lay down on her back. We go at it in missionary, with me kissing her and fondling her breasts. She was moaning in pleasure, I can tell it's fake but it has the same effect. It didn't take me long to cum and her moans got louder when she knew I was cumming.
Noey cleaned me up and then proceeded to give me a very light massage until her alarm went off. We showered again to clean up. I gave her a 200 be tip as I left because she was so amazing and hard working. I stepped out of the shop with my dick sore but fully satiated.
After such a thorough session, I was feeling exhausted so I headed back to my hotel, got drunk at the executive lounge, and called it an early night at 20:00.
As stated, you can email them and ask.
Now, if by "exquisite blowjob" you mean at least a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, then with the addition of BBFS+CIP as the "fulfilled dreams" you tell them you are looking for, their reply ought to be quite interesting.
I would say any reply in the affirmative from any Escort Agency, Massage Shop or so-called PSE Happy Ending Shop in the country for either of those perfectly reasonable "dreams" that many, many punters would dearly love to have "fulfilled" would be rather Earth-shattering news here and skyrocket that agency or shop to the top of the most popular and successful Thai pay for sex businesses of all time.
So please do report the replies you get from those emails.Don't think its a good idea to encourage such behavior. As per Mr Newtons reports most Girls will be cold and standoffish.
The Reality rarely delivers on the DREAM.
TwilightZoner
12-13-22, 14:18
So, this is my last night in Bangkok. I had originally slated to have a last hurrah in Doki Doki. But after a great satisfying feed, the desire to sow the seeds kinda waned. I guess I'm totally tapped out sexually. I also noticed that I'm NOT a night owl. All the plans to even walk by Soi Cowboy and Thermae flew out the window.
While all the plans were made and researched for days and nights of sex, sex and more sex were made, most of it never came to fruition. It was more massage, massage, food and shopping and sex was more incidental mainly connected to massage! Even with things not going to plan, I certainly did have a great time! So thank you to those who contributed to the forum as your information proved very useful (though not all of it was acted on).
The one thing that stood out throughout my stay here is the realization that while it's great to have a plan on what to do and when, there's no NEED to follow it. Just do whatever whenever and have fun and enjoyment doing it. In any case, the past few days were actually spent eating and sightseeing and eating some more. Other than a visit to Sakura Asakuri for a salt massage and happy ending, the desire to go to the dens of physical pleasures and desires were not a high priority. So, any regrets? Yes, I couldn't visit the more outlying night markets. And yes, I do hope to return at some point in the future to see the rest of the country. However, now that travelling is allowed, I'm probably going to visit other Asian countries as well. Malaysia (where I have family and friends), Vietnam (food & sightseeing) and maybe Philippines (food, sightseeing and sex, providing I'm still unattached).
So once again, thanks for the insights and information, I will still be lurking here every now and then!
To repeat myself, while the BTS does go to Chatuchak, Mo Chit stop, it's a bit of a walk and you enter on, for me, the less interesting side of the market. I always switch from BTS to MRT at Asoke, and take the MRT to Kamphaeng Phet, NOT Chatuchak PARK. Kamphaen Phet is right at the edge of the, for me, interesting side of the market. A walk in the park can be nice, but, on a hot day ....
.I much prefer the Mo Chit stop. A walk through the park is a wonderful experience with gaggles of girls and students and its probably not even 300 meters walk. I love when the college girls in the Park spy me, a unique looking foreigner, and want to practice their English.
BTW, if you want to see where the HiSo Thais shop, go to Or Tor Kor market which is right below Chatuchac on the MRT.
DAY 3.
After the shower, she started putting her clothes on, so I could tell she wanted to leave. Since it was only one pop, I was wondering if there would be a discount. I asked her how much and laughs at me and says same as last night! No discount for me. 7000 be again. I give her the money, she says thanks, and she leaves.
We talked earlier about going to Kashikiri Soda Onsen the next day, but after tonight's experience I wasn't willing to shell out another 7000 be and at least 3000 be for the Onsen just for the pleasure of her company.StrikerAZ, I'm glad you had a good time with your newfound princess Ai, but to be candid, you paid too much for the first session, and the 2nd one with only one pop for 7000 is out of bounds! I hope you'll take this the right way. From a fellow bro who also has to learn some hard lessons: Learn your hard lessons well! She came calling for you the next day because she'd identified you as easy money from the night before. I think 11 Bravo was being nice to you when he said it was ok for her to leave at 3 the first night, especially after you gave her the takeout dinner.
Make sure you define the terms and conditions beforehand, even for (especially for) girls you've already been with. You can't take the first encounter for granted as setting follow up T&Cs. More importantly, don't follow up with an FL the night after your first encounter. Bangkok has so many choices. Just politely tell her you're busy and go hunting for better bargains until you know how to play the game better.
I'm getting grumpier and grumpier as I see my beloved bros pushing up prices and expectations by the day. Hell!
I'm going to BKK next week (was just there in August, prices already skyrocketing, and service plummeting.), and I can already anticipate what a hit it's going to be on the budget now that guys are just throwing big bills at these girls. 7000 for overnight is to be reserved for special hotties. I hope they don't start quoting that price for ST now!
I asked if they had any girls who did sex without condom and they replied, "No have."Thanks for the followup.
It appears that Body Bliss Bangkok Agency is only prepared to "ensure their customers have all of their dreams fulfilled" as long as all of their customers' dreams are rather puny and, among other things, don't have anything to do with the bliss of feeling the skin of their penis coming in contact with the inside of a vagina.
Don't think its a good idea to encourage such behavior. As per Mr Newtons reports most Girls will be cold and standoffish.
The Reality rarely delivers on the DREAM.Encourage what behavior? Merely asking for clarification on what a supposed "body bliss" agency or P4P provider means by, in that case, "ensuring all their customers' dreams come true"?
They aren't shy about slinging bullshit around on what they're charging customers money for, so customers shouldn't be shy about telling them what they'd like to get for that money.
Oh, you of little faith Eihtooms.
Disney did say that dreams may come true.Wasn't it a cricket who sang about that? Yeah, in that one a cat kissed a goldfish. Great hand drawn animation though.
I much prefer the Mo Chit stop. A walk through the park is a wonderful experience with gaggles of girls and students and its probably not even 300 meters walk. I love when the college girls in the Park spy me, a unique looking foreigner, and want to practice their English.
BTW, if you want to see where the HiSo Thais shop, go to Or Tor Kor market which is right below Chatuchac on the MRT.Thanks for the info. I never knew about the girls and students in the park. I would love to chat with them. I have done this in China and Japan, and got lucky.
So, this is my last night in Bangkok. I had originally slated to have a last hurrah in Doki Doki. But after a great satisfying feed, the desire to sow the seeds kinda waned. I guess I'm totally tapped out sexually. I also noticed that I'm NOT a night owl. All the plans to even walk by Soi Cowboy and Thermae flew out the window.
While all the plans were made and researched for days and nights of sex, sex and more sex were made, most of it never came to fruition. It was more massage, massage, food and shopping and sex was more incidental mainly connected to massage! Even with things not going to plan, I certainly did have a great time! So thank you to those who contributed to the forum as your information proved very useful (though not all of it was acted on).
The one thing that stood out throughout my stay here is the realization that while it's great to have a plan on what to do and when, there's no NEED to follow it. Just do whatever whenever and have fun and enjoyment doing it. In any case, the past few days were actually spent eating and sightseeing and eating some more. Other than a visit to Sakura Asakuri for a salt massage and happy ending, the desire to go to the dens of physical pleasures and desires were not a high priority. So, any regrets? Yes, I couldn't visit the more outlying night markets.Have to agree with you. I was in Thailand for a long time this past summer and like you I did a lot of eating, massages, sightseeing and relaxing and not nearly as much smashing as I thought I would. It gets kind of old when you have it at your fingertips anytime you want, so spacing it out worked better for me. I seriously don't get how guys session so much, just seems forced and not has enjoyable.
Also like you, my next trip to SEA will include other countries as well as I see countries like the Philippines just recently lifting restrictions. I still plan to come to Thailand on any SEA trip, but it won't be for as long.
Report #53585
7 K ST two nights in a row. Ridiculous.
Report #53585
7 K ST two nights in a row. Ridiculous.Look on the bright side.
For every transaction, ex 7000 long time with an uninterested girl who work shop there are 100,000 east Asian intent on keeping pricing in order. Hahaha.
Have to agree with you. I was in Thailand for a long time this past summer and like you I did a lot of eating, massages, sightseeing and relaxing and not nearly as much smashing as I thought I would. It gets kind of old when you have it at your fingertips anytime you want, so spacing it out worked better for me. I seriously don't get how guys session so much, just seems forced and not has enjoyable.
Also like you, my next trip to SEA will include other countries as well as I see countries like the Philippines just recently lifting restrictions. I still plan to come to Thailand on any SEA trip, but it won't be for as long.Hit it on the Head bro. Sex with Bargirls gets old real fast.
That's where Chemistry comes in. It never gets old.
Thanks for the info. I never knew about the girls and students in the park. I would love to chat with them. I have done this in China and Japan, and got lucky.You can get into that park to walk around from various entrances near Chatuchak Market, but the last 2 times I exited at the Mo Chit BTS station the gate into the park at the bottom of the stairs and right next to the MRT Chatuchak station entrance / exit was closed and everyone had to walk around on the sidewalk to another entrance into the market grounds.
I could be wrong about an entrance to the park near that Mo Chit BTS exit. I was with a friend and didn't really want to explore around to find another one in the heat of the day so we just went with the flow of foot traffic along the sidewalk to a market entrance.
But it seems to me that entrance gate to the park that I also liked, allowing for an easy stroll through the park to get to the market grounds, has been closed since the Covid closures and still had not been reopened as of last weekend.
The one thing that stood out throughout my stay here is the realization that while it's great to have a plan on what to do and when, there's no NEED to follow it. Just do whatever whenever and have fun and enjoyment doing it. In any case, the past few days were actually spent eating and sightseeing and eating some more. Other than a visit to Sakura Asakuri for a salt massage and happy ending, the desire to go to the dens of physical pleasures and desires were not a high priority. So, any regrets? Yes, I couldn't visit the more outlying night markets. And yes, I do hope to return at some point in the future to see the rest of the country. However, now that travelling is allowed, I'm probably going to visit other Asian countries as well. Malaysia (where I have family and friends), Vietnam (food & sightseeing) and maybe Philippines (food, sightseeing and sex, providing I'm still unattached).Like the kid in a candy store, the first time you run in and want to fill every pocket with candy. But after awhile, you look around and see other shops, there's an art gallery, a market, a food court (without McDonalds, Subway, Burger King, etc.). Your eyes open, lose their fixated stare, and focus on the WORLD around you ....
Myself, whenever I start out, I do have a target in mind. But if I get distracted, so what? Or if the primary target is unavailable, obscured by clouds, then there's a secondary ... or look for targets of opportunity ... What's the old cliche, "The best laid plans of mice and men ..." I rely on my good luck and serendipity (think she used to work at Tulip). My current fav was found by chance 3 years ago on my previous visit. Had gone to Soi 7's Beer Garden (even back then, faded, but the occasional potential). Nothing there, so decided to make the pilgrimage... walking from Soi 7 to Soi 26 rather than take the sky train, stopping at all the usual places: soi 23, soi 22, soi 24, soi 24-1, soi 26 ... In my meanderings, stopped by an attractive face, her smile instantly had me sold. It didn't take months to develop a rapport; by the 3rd time in 3 weeks it was there. So just walking around, keeping your eyes open, many possibilities for MANY things.
For travel:
1. Highest on the neighbor's list would be Myanmar; unfortunately closed for all practical purposes, at least for me. Fascinating country. Modern Yangon, traditional Mandalay, incredible Bagan (take the boat from Mandalay), Inle lake, the hill stations ... Don't take a bus between Yangon and Mandalay, beautiful 8 lane highway that passes through nothing. Better to take the train. Slow, but like being in a 3D National Geographic travelogue. What I will never forget is how they carry EVERYTHING perched on their heads. Once saw 3 girls with bags on their heads. I figured laundry, MAYBE rice. It was fist sized stones for a temple being built. Haven't been back for 7 years, but people amazingly friendly. Real shame what's happened.
2. Cambodia, particularly Angkor Wat. That is a bucket list item. I've been meaning to go back; my visit was 25 years ago and a number of outlying temples were off-limits due to mines. But believe most have been cleared. Phnom Penh worth a visit for the genocide museum, the art-deco market, the museum, and the river walks. Nothing to be seen at the actual killing fields.
3. Malaysia interesting. Many tourist sites, lived there for a year. Unfortunately, KL's Beach Club closed, was a real Asian smorgasbord....
4. Laos worth a visit; haven't been back to Vietnam yet.
Will miss your FR's. A hearty well done and safe journey.
I asked her if she wanted to have dinner at 19:30 but like most of the Free Lance girls at Thermae they have day jobs and she has work until 20:00. We settled on meeting at 21:00 at my hotel and we can decide what to do from there.
Ai texts me at 21:00 that she is down in the hotel lobby, so I go down to bring her back to my room. She was dressed in a little black to and black skater skirt, very cute if I do say so. She mentioned that she worked all day and since she was the only one in her clothing store she was quite tired. I then made the suggestion that we go get massages since there were plenty of shops just down the street.
My first choice was Nature Thai Massage but when I inquired, the receptionist said they were fully booked that night. So I decided to go next door to Thai Thai massage. They had plenty of masseuses and I opted for the 90 minute Thai massage for 600 pp. The massage was painful and not very private, but it did relieve some tension in my body. The masseuses were talking to each other throughout the session so it wasn't as serene as I had in mind. We finished up the massage and then headed back to the hotel.
Once in the hotel room, Ai made herself comfortable again. It was at this point that I realize I should have a soft limit of repeat encounters with any one lady. They seem to get too comfortable with me and that slight edge of anticipation and apprehension is no longer there. I say this because Ai plops herself down on the chair and start browsing Facebook and TikTok. She doesn't make any move to undress, she's vaping while playing on her phone, and it just feels like she's sitting on her couch at home relaxing. I hop in the shower hoping she takes a hint, and she does! When I got out she also went to take a shower and joined me in bed once she was done.
What followed was a bit disappointing. She did her routine of licking nipples, stroking cock, licking shaft and ballsack, but no BJ. She said she didn't like the taste of the penis. Ok, no problem, I'm not too big a fan of amateur BJ anyways, so we skip to the main event. I flipped her on the back and start DFK, then licking her breast and nipples, slowly working my way down to her pussy. This is when she stopped me saying that her pussy was too sensitive and she didn't want me licking down there. Hmm, okay fine, I won't force her to do something she's not comfortable with. So we go to the standard missionary position. I go for a good 5 minutes but I can tell she was just not that into it this time around. I finish up in about another 3 minutes, cumming on her belly, and she did her run to the bathroom to clean up.
After the shower, she started putting her clothes on, so I could tell she wanted to leave. Since it was only one pop, I was wondering if there would be a discount. I asked her how much and laughs at me and says same as last night! No discount for me. 7000 be again. I give her the money, she says thanks, and she leaves.The FIRST 7000 k ... OK, new, and didn't do Professor Kingsfield's reading assignment to find out prices. Yes, Thermae MIGHT carry a premium, but given the going quote of a LT agogo lady is 5 K, plus 1 K bar fine, perhaps not SO out of line for a TRUE LT. Like you said, you were tired, wanted to get back to the room to enjoy, and DID enjoy. So, OK for a FIRST time, but learn from your mistakes before the 2nd time. BUT, and that's a BIG BUT... a number of mistakes, perhaps MORE than you realize, on that 2nd time.
1. Taking her for a massage might, in your eyes, be being nice, but a waste of together time, and really labeling you a mark. Granted, you are paying for her time, not necessarily sex, so how you want to use it is up to you, but for what? Especially since she told you she has a day job. I have pulled a few of those and an EARLY morning wake up, I understand though I don't enjoy. So ALWAYS ask what her departure time will be. Some girls define LT as "until you fall asleep". Realize the limitations of someone who has a day job especially if she a)has to work the next day, and b)is coming from a day's work.
2. The phone goes away when she's with you. With me, 1st time is a yellow card, 2nd time RED. Complacency is always a danger with repeat business and best to cut it short if it appears.
3. She gets dressed and wants to leave. HERE'S where the mistakes really start to compound. Fine, I NEVER keep a girl prisoner; when she wants to leave, up to her. But I DON'T ask her about a discount. I simply hand her MY ST price. When, NOT if, she complains, I point out the early departure, the 1 shot, etc., etc. And I HAVE done it. One NEVER spoke to me again. In the bar, I was definitely wearing a cloak of invisibility. No problem, I wouldn't pull her again anyway (but it was funny, and me laughing I'm sure didn't help improve things).
And NOW, another POTENTIAL consequence, and I speak from personal EXPERIENCE: she tells her friends that you'll pay 7 k for ST, 1 shot. Believe me, they share intel. You can overcome it, but it does take a lot of work and explaining as when you offer less, the girl thinks you're disrespecting her. I explained I had paid in advance (DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB, but every lesson has to be relearned eventually), and she had changed LT to ST. If she doubted me, she could ask any number of my other acquaintances there. So be prepared for some additional blowback.
You started off well, asking menu, settling on price BEFORE leaving the bar. If you were communicating by Line, I'd have reconfirmed the parameters of the meet BEFORE confirming the 2nd meet, especially for someone with a day job just off of work.
And FORGET the romantic bit. It's BUSINESS, you shouldn't be trying to woo her, she should be convincing you to sign her. You can have fun, and a GFE, just remember it's a pseudo-GFE, you don't have to put up with her crap. I never force a girl to do something she doesn't want to do, but if she's agreed to something and then reneges, then, if it's an act, that's a no repeat, if it's a change in departure, that's a pay cut.
I'm going to BKK next week (was just there in August, prices already skyrocketing, and service plummeting.), and I can already anticipate what a hit it's going to be on the budget now that guys are just throwing big bills at these girls. 7000 for overnight is to be reserved for special hotties. I hope they don't start quoting that price for ST now!Those outside the 5 standard deviation paydays never phase me. She can quote any price she likes. Now MY price for HER experience that night is up to ME. If we can come to an agreement, fine. If not, I just smile, tell her "good luck" and move on. They are very astute and catch on quickly if you're not a newbie (though it can be fun to tell her it's your 1st time here, you just arrived today, and watch her eyes spin around like slot machine wheels, then watch them slowly stop spinning as she figures out you're just joking). Like you say, many other opportunities available.
Re 7000 shop girl.
The Glaring blunder I see is paying Superstar prices for a Shop girl.
The Avg shop girl is Soi Pattaya quality.
I know there are exceptions but I haven't seen one yet.
Probably has a Norwegian funding her shop. One of those instances that make less Logic.
If she was Hot why is she tending Shop. One woman shops get No customers.
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Thermae.
I've read a lot about Thermae on this forum and wanted to try something different from the usual massage place or go go bar. Which incidentally I still haven't been to a go go bar.
Thermae opens at 20:00 so I took a nap to regain some energy. At about 19:30 I took my dose of Kamagra and headed out. By the time I got there, which I didn't realize was right next door to Southeast Pharmacy, the place was already pretty packed.
First thing when you walk down to the basement to enter is a guy turning you towards the bar to buy your required 1 drink. I paid 120 be for a beer and then turned around to survey the place.
The majority of the girls stood by the walls or booths on the perimeter of the room. The center area has bar tops where a lot of guys seem to be sitting and nursing their beers while gawking at the girls. It feels oddly like a high school dance except all the socially awkward kids are in the middle and the pretty girls were the wall flies. Like other posters have mentioned, the vast majority of johns were East Asians. Think Japanese, Korean, and a sprinkling of Chinese. There were also some Indians but I don't really recall seeing any white guys. The girls won't approach you, they will only make eye contact and might smile at you, so it's up to you to take the initiative and approach them to being negotiations.
It also reminded me of a school of fish in the ocean. There were groups of guys that would circle the room checking out the girls and it was always in the clockwise direction. It was pretty funny seeing the action.
As mentioned earlier I'm a romantic so I started making my approaches asking for Long Time. It was early so half the girls I talked to only wanted Short Time. Of the ones were willing to go LT, I got quoted anywhere from 7000 to 10000. Some wanted to leave at 04:00 and other were willing to stay until 07:00. After I got the price, I started asking for my requirements such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc etc.
These girls are all Freelancers, with day jobs, so they can set their own price and conditions. Seven unsuccessful attempts later, I finally found one that met all my requirements. 7000 LT, braces, 152 cm, 46 kg, looks to be in her early 20's but is actually 30, her name is Ai. I know, I know, 7000 is a lot but by that time I was fatigued by all the choices and just wanted to get back to my hotel room with a lady and I've never been with a brace face before. By the time I left with my girl, it was 20:45 and I've only seen a handful of guys leave the bar with a girl. Most of the other guys were still awkwardly staring at the girls and nursing their drinks.
As soon as we stepped out on to the street, we were approached by the taxi rank representative. He asked me where we were going and I was quoted 200 be to get back to the Hilton. I already knew it was overpriced but at that point I didn't care. Ai and I made some small talk during the ride and her English was pretty decent. It didn't take long to get ack to the Hotel and I speed walked us past reception and to the elevator, since I wasn't sure if the hotel was guest friendly.
We got up to my hotel room without incident and Ai proceeded to make herself at home. After some small talk she went to take a shower and get herself ready. When she was done I went for a shower as well. I got out of the shower and she was already under the covers.
I should also mention I'm clean shaven down under, and girls seem to appreciate this and makes you look safer disease wise and makes them more willing perform extra services.
She began with the usual routine, kissing and licking my nipples, then stroking my cock. This led to licking of my balls and shaft. After I bit I guided her up and proceed with some passionate DFK. I flipped her on her back and kissed and licked her body all the way down to her pussy, which was all natural and unshaven. She was a bit embarrassed so she held her pussy hair out of the way while I ate her out. I dined down there for a good 15 minutes and she really seemed to enjoy it. I would have kept going but she stopped me as she was getting too sensitive.
It was my turn so she put a condom on my cock and we started with missionary. We tried various positions with her on her back for about 10-15 minutes. I've had a few drinks before hand so it was taking a while to cum and I think she was getting sore because after a bit she said it was getting painful. We settled on sideways spoon and after 3 minutes I finished. She jumped up and ran to the bathroom while saying, so much cum, so much cum. I found it hilarious.
After we both cleaned up, we headed out to grab some food since I was feeling a bit peckish. It was late and a lot of shops are closed so choices were limited. We ended up at a restaurant called Great Shanghai that was still open. I ordered 2 dishes, 2 eggs, rice, and 2 drinks. Total damage was 280 be.
Once we filled up we headed back to the hotel for round 2. Like before, made some small talk. She showed me photo of her family including her fat older sister and the sister's trans boyfriend. She also told me she was 1 of 6 siblings. She had a Japanese ex-boyfriend etc etc. She dislikes alcohol but was vaping the whole time while in my room haha.
02:00 rolled around and I was ready for round 2, so we got in bed and proceed to do the deed. I finished quicker this time and she made her run to the bathroom right after wards. She got cleaned up and we parted ways at around 03:00. I could have held her longer but she had an hour ride back to her home and I was feeling tired anyways. I got her line and phone number and we agreed to meet again the next day.
I think I've already written too much so I'll save to the rest for another post. To be continued.Considering the hotter Thermae girls command 3,000+ for Short Times likely using up 1-2 hours of their time, I don't see getting 6+ hours of their time for 7,000 baht as a bad deal.
However, that is assuming you got what you wanted in the deal, including the "etc etc" part in the below quote:
After I got the price, I started asking for my requirements such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc etc.
....
It was my turn so she put a condom on my cock and we started with missionary.
....
We settled on sideways spoon and after 3 minutes I finished. She jumped up and ran to the bathroom while saying, so much cum, so much cum. I found it hilarious.And that is where the Devil in the Details comes up in that "etc etc" part for me. Granted, my experiences wearing a condom during sex are few relative to the thousands of girls and sex sessions I've had. But her complaint about so much cum, so much cum and racing to the toilet to deal with it, twice, just doesn't jive with what I thought was the purpose of a condom.
Did we miss an important Devilish Detail in that "etc etc" part?
Haha. No matter. You are not required to answer anything asked here, of course. And, as I said, the only thing that matters is that you got what you wanted in the deal.
Now, for ME, that "etc etc" part would definitely have included the LT you got for at least that amount of time and the DFK, BBBJ and DATY you mentioned. But I would have needed to hear a clear and unambiguous Yes to her pussy being shaved, fine to do it in my toilet if not done already, and BBFS+CIP. And a 2nd pop, if I felt up to it, would need to be BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, all agreed to upfront before I leave with her and, naturally, assuming I am smitten by her looks and demeanor.
Then I would not feel a 7,000 baht price was too much at all. Whether or not she spends some of the time playing on her phone or staring at her toes is really immaterial to me as long as the details stated above are met at the times I want them.
Sure, I can find cuties who will do all of that for me and actually stay for a true overnight LT from 7 pm until 10 am -11 am the next day for 2,500 - 3,000 baht. But that is not necessarily the same as simply walking into Thermae, scanning the lineup and taking a new hottie for all of my requirements for pretty close to what many trial and error gogo bar hops cost in a night.
Newton York
12-14-22, 15:35
First of all, shout out to Newton York for his detailed treasure trove of a report.
Thanks for the shout out StrikerAZ, the fact that more fellow forum members like full reports like mine than don't, speak to the efficacy of such writing,*although*I know I could definitely be more succinct. In the end it's all about how much info is imparted. The more varied experiences the better I feel. Once we have all experienced some of the better girls and report on them, means less of us will experience the bad ones. Each successive trip I take to Bangkok gets better than the last, I'm hoping the next one I take will be so good my head will explode. Your reports are very helpful too, I'm taking notes for the next time I'm in Bangkok, Jesus H Christ willing. It's going to be a real uphill battle to get my shit together so I can get myself on a plane back to Thailand, but by Zeus, I have to try. *.
Newton York
12-14-22, 15:43
Agreed, Newton York's reports very helpful in leading me to new places.
So glad my reports helped 11 Bravo, also loving your reports. Informative and entertaining. The more we fellow punters and hobbyists share information, the more we get out of this hobby. I like it when we support each other instead of trying to tear people down. We got one shitty life to live fellas and for some of us, we're older than the rest. Pussy is IT. We have to help each other get the best ass we can find, cause then it's all over. Only young people can afford idealism. Once you hit a certain age, like a ton of bricks, it hits you over the head and you realize, holy shit. Life really does suck and the only thing that makes it worth living is hot, sexy women. And money to get those women. Thanks again 11 Bravo for the reports, keep up the good work. And here's to hoping we all can get back to Bangkok soon.
Newton York
12-14-22, 15:50
DAY 3.
This is day I found Newton York's FR. I spent the morning reading through it and make my game plan for the day. I decide on Happybkk Massage and call to make booking for Haru. No go, receptionist said she's on holiday and won't be back until the weekend. Okay, no problem, Noey was also highly recommended, so I make a booking for her at 13:30.
I show up, pay, and was escorted upstairs by Noey. She's just as described, short, petite, beautiful, and always smiling. Her smile is super alluring and it really turned me on. The walk upstairs to the 4th floor was something. She was ahead and made sure you got a great view of her ass in her tight dress while she gyrated up the stairs. She let me to the room, turned on the hot water for the hot tub, and asked me to wait a bit while she went to get her little basket.
When she got back, we proceeded to undress and got in the tub. I would estimate her age at about 30 ish. She's still quite petite but her body isn't as tone as a 20 year old's. She has natural Asian see-cup breasts. She gave me the best soapy wash I've had in Bangkok so far, gentle, sexy, and very GFE. Every time I turn around and see her face, she is smiling coyly at me. With both of us clean, we commenced with the soapy massage. This was my first time experiencing this and wow was it something. Lots of licking, stroking, gliding, breast stroking. She said I can cum once in the tub and once in bed, no worry, relax she says. It's very rare for me to cum from a BJ or HJ so after a while I said she could stop, but she told me to just relax and let her do all the work.
Noey is the hardest working girl I've even met, she just keeps going and doesn't seem bored or wanted to complain. If you are into BJ or HJ to completion she would be the perfect lady for you. At this point my dick was getting a bit sore so I asked her to move to the bed. She rinsed us off, and led me to the bed.
She licked my earlobes while moaning heavily into them, then moved down and licked my nipples and kissed her way down to my cock. She proceeded to give me an amazing BJ. It was a little toothy at times but maybe it's because her mouth is so small. After 10 minutes, out comes the lube and condom. She slicked the condom on while giving me a BJ, then proceeded to straddle me cowgirl style. She started by rocking back and forth, grinding her pelvis against mine, then after a while switched to pumping up and down. Her pussy was so tight I was about to pop, so I asked her to switch positions and lay down on her back. We go at it in missionary, with me kissing her and fondling her breasts. She was moaning in pleasure, I can tell it's fake but it has the same effect. It didn't take me long to cum and her moans got louder when she knew I was cumming.
Noey cleaned me up and then proceeded to give me a very light massage until her alarm went off. We showered again to clean up. I gave her a 200 be tip as I left because she was so amazing and hard working. I stepped out of the shop with my dick sore but fully satiated.
After such a thorough session, I was feeling exhausted so I headed back to my hotel, got drunk at the executive lounge, and called it an early night at 20:00.It's good to know my reports are still helping even after all these months. Great reports StrikerAZ. Noey and Haru at BKK Happy are real sweethearts. Real gems, and worth a repeat if you've experienced them. Nothing like a sure thing, when it's a sure thing. Especially Haru and her BBBJCIM. That helps a bunch for old guys like me that even with pharmaceutical help, still have issues cumming, much less keeping it up. As for Noey, what can one say? I just love how patient she is. She really strives to give you a good time. She'll never give up until you cum. Anybody who gets to spend time with Noey, make sure you tip her fellas, she's worth every Baht. Pray to Zeus, Quetzalcoatl, Cthulhu or whoever that I'll get to go back to Bangkok someday, better yet that I get to retire there someday. Hell, better yet that I get to retire, period. God, the economy sucks now.
Newton York
12-14-22, 16:04
Like the kid in a candy store, the first time you run in and want to fill every pocket with candy. But after awhile, you look around and see other shops, there's an art gallery, a market, a food court (without McDonalds, Subway, Burger King, etc.). Your eyes open, lose their fixated stare, and focus on the WORLD around you ....
Myself, whenever I start out, I do have a target in mind. But if I get distracted, so what? Or if the primary target is unavailable, obscured by clouds, then there's a secondary ... or look for targets of opportunity ... What's the old cliche, "The best laid plans of mice and men ..." I rely on my good luck and serendipity (think she used to work at Tulip). My current fav was found by chance 3 years ago on my previous visit. Had gone to Soi 7's Beer Garden (even back then, faded, but the occasional potential). Nothing there, so decided to make the pilgrimage... walking from Soi 7 to Soi 26 rather than take the sky train, stopping at all the usual places: soi 23, soi 22, soi 24, soi 24-1, soi 26 ... In my meanderings, stopped by an attractive face, her smile instantly had me sold. It didn't take months to develop a rapport; by the 3rd time in 3 weeks it was there. So just walking around, keeping your eyes open, many possibilities for MANY things.
For travel:
1. Highest on the neighbor's list would be Myanmar; unfortunately closed for all practical purposes, at least for me. Fascinating country. Modern Yangon, traditional Mandalay, incredible Bagan (take the boat from Mandalay), Inle lake, the hill stations ... Don't take a bus between Yangon and Mandalay, beautiful 8 lane highway that passes through nothing. Better to take the train. Slow, but like being in a 3D National Geographic travelogue. What I will never forget is how they carry EVERYTHING perched on their heads. Once saw 3 girls with bags on their heads. I figured laundry, MAYBE rice. It was fist sized stones for a temple being built. Haven't been back for 7 years, but people amazingly friendly. Real shame what's happened.
2. Cambodia, particularly Angkor Wat. That is a bucket list item. I've been meaning to go back; my visit was 25 years ago and a number of outlying temples were off-limits due to mines. But believe most have been cleared. Phnom Penh worth a visit for the genocide museum, the art-deco market, the museum, and the river walks. Nothing to be seen at the actual killing fields.
3. Malaysia interesting. Many tourist sites, lived there for a year. Unfortunately, KL's Beach Club closed, was a real Asian smorgasbord....
4. Laos worth a visit; haven't been back to Vietnam yet.
Will miss your FR's. A hearty well done and safe journey.Angkor what is also on my bucket list, when I was there in that part of the world decades ago, obviously no tourists allowed then, next time around given the chance I definitely want to go. Did look into it some time ago, but how easy or tough is it to get to Angkor what from Bangkok?
Newton York
12-14-22, 16:25
Don't think its a good idea to encourage such behavior. As per Mr Newtons reports most Girls will be cold and standoffish.
The Reality rarely delivers on the DREAM.Yes, very true Tim Timms, that's why I always espouse repeats with the really good girls when found. Without reviews, every girl we try, it's a real crapshoot, and this being Bangkok, most will be a little off. So fellas, when you hit the jackpot by finding a really nice girl, sweet, patient, etc. Be sure to report here, that way we can all avoid the bad ones. Also, unless you're swimming in cash, and there's verified reviews, maybe don't bother so much with the escorts. There's just too many choices out there in Bangkok in the physical world of line ups, oilies, soapies, gogobars, etc, to be dealing with online escorts. Man, that hit me hard enough I think I'm done with them for sure. Jesus H Christ, she was bad. Like I said in my report, the discrepancy between how she looked like in real life vs the photos were the biggest I've ever experienced, and for what I paid. Sheesh. Believe you me, there's some real lookers on some of them Bangkok escort sites, but once bitten twice shy. I don't know man, might try smooci one day, but I'm so old fashioned, it hurts, there's something about seeing the girl live you know? In a line up, in a bar, in a massage parlor, etc. It brings me back to the heady days of Prague when they used to have window girls like Amsterdam. I'm old enough to remember the glory days of Breitte Gasse in Frankfurt. It's the whole tactile, real nature of it all. Don't get me wrong, I've had my fair share of escorts, when absolutely required in a city that really only has that option like Montreal, and some of my best sex experiences have been escorts, especially in Prague. But with Prague, I saw them first at the 'Privats', then for some weird reason called them over to my hotel when I didn't need to. Prague will always have a special place in my heart. But it's Bangkok now baby!
Nana Sign update on Deaf girls. Don't know if Deaf or not but there was a Plumpy girl sleeping under the sign.
The actual girls standing, don't know if Deaf or not were not even up to Soi 6 Standards.
Inside the open air court was doing Brisk Business.
Objectively being fair and not a Tout my favorites Rain 4/5 seem to be regressing in both number of girls and customers.
I just don't think the girls are making much money- why botheR.
The third tier and below have NO chance.
By 11 pm customers are non. Existent.
I don't know if there is a late night rush or not. Maybe that's when the Scrubs make their money.
The FIRST 7000 k ... OK, new, and didn't do Professor Kingsfield's reading assignment to find out prices. Yes, Thermae MIGHT carry a premium, but given the going quote of a LT agogo lady is 5 K, plus 1 K bar fine, perhaps not SO out of line for a TRUE LT. Like you said, you were tired, wanted to get back to the room to enjoy, and DID enjoy. So, OK for a FIRST time, but learn from your mistakes before the 2nd time. BUT, and that's a BIG BUT... a number of mistakes, perhaps MORE than you realize, on that 2nd time.
1. Taking her for a massage might, in your eyes, be being nice, but a waste of together time, and really labeling you a mark. Granted, you are paying for her time, not necessarily sex, so how you want to use it is up to you, but for what? Especially since she told you she has a day job. I have pulled a few of those and an EARLY morning wake up, I understand though I don't enjoy. So ALWAYS ask what her departure time will be. Some girls define LT as "until you fall asleep". Realize the limitations of someone who has a day job especially if she a)has to work the next day, and b)is coming from a day's work.
2. The phone goes away when she's with you. With me, 1st time is a yellow card, 2nd time RED. Complacency is always a danger with repeat business and best to cut it short if it appears.
3. She gets dressed and wants to leave. HERE'S where the mistakes really start to compound. Fine, I NEVER keep a girl prisoner; when she wants to leave, up to her. But I DON'T ask her about a discount. I simply hand her MY ST price. When, NOT if, she complains, I point out the early departure, the 1 shot, etc., etc. And I HAVE done it. One NEVER spoke to me again. In the bar, I was definitely wearing a cloak of invisibility. No problem, I wouldn't pull her again anyway (but it was funny, and me laughing I'm sure didn't help improve things).
And NOW, another POTENTIAL consequence, and I speak from personal EXPERIENCE: she tells her friends that you'll pay 7 k for ST, 1 shot. Believe me, they share intel. You can overcome it, but it does take a lot of work and explaining as when you offer less, the girl thinks you're disrespecting her. I explained I had paid in advance (DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB, but every lesson has to be relearned eventually), and she had changed LT to ST. If she doubted me, she could ask any number of my other acquaintances there. So be prepared for some additional blowback.
You started off well, asking menu, settling on price BEFORE leaving the bar. If you were communicating by Line, I'd have reconfirmed the parameters of the meet BEFORE confirming the 2nd meet, especially for someone with a day job just off of work.
And FORGET the romantic bit. It's BUSINESS, you shouldn't be trying to woo her, she should be convincing you to sign her. You can have fun, and a GFE, just remember it's a pseudo-GFE, you don't have to put up with her crap. I never force a girl to do something she doesn't want to do, but if she's agreed to something and then reneges, then, if it's an act, that's a no repeat, if it's a change in departure, that's a pay cut.
Those outside the 5 standard deviation paydays never phase me. She can quote any price she likes. Now MY price for HER experience that night is up to ME. If we can come to an agreement, fine. If not, I just smile, tell her "good luck" and move on. They are very astute and catch on quickly if you're not a newbie (though it can be fun to tell her it's your 1st time here, you just arrived today, and watch her eyes spin around like slot machine wheels, then watch them slowly stop spinning as she figures out you're just joking). Like you say, many other opportunities available.Thanks 11 Bravo and a few others for also calling out Striker and his 7 k 1 shot fiasco. Your segment before you added my quote shows that you and I are really in agreement. Regarding the post-quote response, I appreciate your self confidence, and I. Like you. Am also fully prepared to walk if a girl actually asks for an egregious amount. I didn't really mean that I was worried about getting a single exorbitant quotation from a BKK WG (thanks, I can handle myself just as you can.). But if 99 out of every 100 start quoting the same with similar expectations, can you continue to move on in the future? I mean this is starting to get out of control. The Thai economy is hardly roaring ahead, and legit wages are hardly on the rise. Why are WG prices on the verge of doubling just after the covid blackout years? Something has changed, and if it doesn't reverse course soon, we'll all be better off getting on trans-pacific flights to Las Vegas for a better bargain. (Yeah, I know that's an exaggeration.) But you get my point that TH may not stay a bargain much longer. Or do you have a different perspective that can ease my mind? I'm not poor, but I don't want to start paying through the roof for just a quick pop or 4 hours of "LT. " Hope all the BKK newcomers (I'm not one, have been going there for decades) can do their research, and I pledge that I'll try to avoid DUMB repeat mistakes.
Considering the hotter Thermae girls command 3,000+ for Short Times likely using up 1-2 hours of their time, I don't see getting 6+ hours of their time for 7,000 baht as a bad deal.
However, that is assuming you got what you wanted in the deal, including the "etc etc" part in the below quote:
And that is where the Devil in the Details comes up in that "etc etc" part for me. Granted, my experiences wearing a condom during sex are few relative to the thousands of girls and sex sessions I've had. But her complaint about so much cum, so much cum and racing to the toilet to deal with it, twice, just doesn't jive with what I thought was the purpose of a condom.
Did we miss an important Devilish Detail in that "etc etc" part?
Haha. No matter. You are not required to answer anything asked here, of course. And, as I said, the only thing that matters is that you got what you wanted in the deal..Yes, for the second session where the girl cut the time with him short and he only got one pop, the customer had every reason and standing to just give her a generous 2,500 - 3,000 baht and put her out the door with no further discussion.
But for the first session that I responded to above:
- he had her from 20:45 until 3 am. Awake. That is 6+ hours. How is that less of a LT than the fellow who takes a girl at 12 Midnight and she bails at 7 am - 8 am after 2-3 hours of that time was likely spent sleeping?
- 7,000 baht is 2-3 times the going ST rate with better than average lookers at Thermae. He had her, awake, for 2-3 times the length of typical ST and got 2 pops with her.
- Many gogo bar barfines are 1,000 baht now, depending on the night or hour. Many of the better lookers will often hold at 3,000 baht for a 1-2 hour ST and not budge. Unless your first encounter at the first bar you enter is THE girl for you and she agrees to all of your requirements at the door without a single LD being purchased, you can easily add another 2,000 baht to the hunt, totalling 6,000 baht. And you'll be getting a 1-2 hour ST for that 6,000 baht.
- Unless I am mistaken about which Field Report was being referred to, somebody characterized the girls at Thermae as "shop" girls. I am not sure what that means. That they have regular day jobs at a mall shop somewhere? That the girl in question once worked in a massage shop? Not sure. But I just wanted to mention for those who have never been there that Thermae is not a shop. It is a casual bar with relatively low cost drinks where FLs hang out to meet potential customers. No LDs, no barfine, no massage tables or floor mats, everyone remains fully clothed on the premises.
Thanks 11 Bravo and a few others for also calling out Striker and his 7 k 1 shot fiasco. Your segment before you added my quote shows that you and I are really in agreement. Regarding the post-quote response, I appreciate your self confidence, and I. Like you. Am also fully prepared to walk if a girl actually asks for an egregious amount. I didn't really mean that I was worried about getting a single exorbitant quotation from a BKK WG (thanks, I can handle myself just as you can.). But if 99 out of every 100 start quoting the same with similar expectations, can you continue to move on in the future? I mean this is starting to get out of control. The Thai economy is hardly roaring ahead, and legit wages are hardly on the rise. Why are WG prices on the verge of doubling just after the covid blackout years? Something has changed, and if it doesn't reverse course soon, we'll all be better off getting on trans-pacific flights to Las Vegas for a better bargain. (Yeah, I know that's an exaggeration.) But you get my point that TH may not stay a bargain much longer. Or do you have a different perspective that can ease my mind? I'm not poor, but I don't want to start paying through the roof for just a quick pop or 4 hours of "LT. " Hope all the BKK newcomers (I'm not one, have been going there for decades) can do their research, and I pledge that I'll try to avoid DUMB repeat mistakes.Prices at Rainbows pre covid- barfine 1,000. ST-3,000.
Prices at Rainbow Post Covid. Barfine 1,000. ST-3,000.
I really don't see where Prices are rising.
You do realize 7,000 for a Shop Girl is an outlier transaction, at least I hope so. I admit I could be wrong. I don't hang with the Shop Girl Enthusiasts.
Guys, during my July 2022 trip to Bangkok I went to Spasso in Grand Hyatt around 11 PM to 12 AM and it was totally dead.
Whats the latest status on Spasso and also Mixx across the road?
I once saw a youtube video of a place in Thailand where there were 100's of girls sitting in bleacher type of seating and you would call the girl down to sit with you. This was very high end girls with the hottest and most expensive girls at the top floor I believe. The girls mostly sat around most of the time by themselves.
Does anyone know if a place like this in Thailand still exists? Could you tell me the name.
Thanks.
Wow, I must say I didn't expect my field reports to generate such passionate responses. I arrived in Pattaya last night so I haven't had a chance to read through the responses until now.
Thank you everyone who either gave positive or negative feedback. This is my first time solo in Thailand so I have a lot to experience and a lot to learn as well. Those of you who have either been coming here for decades or live here full time know the ins and outs of the hobby. There are many unspoken rules or protocols that us outsiders and newbies can't fully grasp until we've also had a few engagements with the ladies of this amazing country.
If I were easily offended, some of the comments would have put me off from posting anymore on this forum. Good thing I'm not. At the end of the day, my money is mine to spend however I please. If I agree on a transaction with a lady, and we both come to an agreement, then all is good. As others have said, my data point is most likely an outlier. Or it may not be. There are probably hundreds of transactions between mongers and ladies in Bangkok every night that don't get posted on ISG. I wouldn't expect many of the Japanese or Koreans to be reading FRs on ISG. China is starting to relax restrictions, so the red wave may be coming sooner than you think to Thailand. The pent up demand may drive prices further up. The market dictates the prices, so if you are lamenting that there is upwards price pressure there really isn't much to be done about it. Like the stock market, you can chose to ride it out or bail, it's out of our control. I can take constructive feedback and change my behavior, but because of all the other mongers that either don't know or don't read ISG, there will be very little effect.
My experience so far:
-Massage girls give the best service and for the best price, though it's mechanical and routine. Don't expect GFE or PSE.
-Go go bar girls are the hottest and wear the least clothing, so you can fully analyze their body before takeout, but the bar fine, lady drinks, and ST / LT fee could add up to quite a bit. They can either be enjoying their time dancing or seem like they are bored out of their minds and wanting to just go home and sleep.
-Freelance girls are the most unpredictable. You may find a gem in the rough but it may take many attempts or you may never be successful. Prices are also all over the place and can put a major dent in your wallet. Girls in classy or more conservative clothing may be hiding baby damage or flabby bellies. Buyer beware.
I will post more soon, and I'll happily accept any feedback on how I can improve on how I hobby.
P.S. The bar fines in pattaya shocked me, but I'll post more on that in the pattaya forum.
Angkor what is also on my bucket list, when I was there in that part of the world decades ago, obviously no tourists allowed then, next time around given the chance I definitely want to go. Did look into it some time ago, but how easy or tough is it to get to Angkor what from Bangkok?It's been 25+ years so I've forgotten my exact route. I did use a travel service to book and I think it was Bangkok->Siem Reap->Phnom Penh->Bangkok. Just did a quick check and number of direct round trip flights between Bangkok and Siem Reap. Visa on arrival available at Siem Reap and Phnom Penh. I'd say easily done.
Thanks TT and EihTooms for your feedback. There are a lot of different angles coming over the wire in this Bangkok thread, so it's tough to keep everything straight. And we all may have some different favorite spots that work differently for different bros.
Just 2 things I'll mention from my perspective:
Striker mentioned at Thermae; 'Of the ones were willing to go LT, I got quoted anywhere from 7000 to 10000. Some wanted to leave at 04:00 and other were willing to stay until 07:00. After I got the price, These girls are all Freelancers, with day jobs, so they can set their own price and conditions. Seven unsuccessful attempts later, I finally found one that met all my requirements. 7000 LT, braces, 152 cm, 46 kg, looks to be in her early 20's but is actually 30". -- This one doesn't sound like she's too special, and 7-10 k is a lot, even for 6 hours /2 pops, if it's just an average FL. I understand EihTooms math, but we have to admit that the definition of LT is changing from what it was in the past.
Striker's Ai sounds like one I picked up on Soi 4 on August. She was mid 30's, very attractive (2-3 extra pounds now, but still delightful), unlimited access (which was effectively 3 pops) over 9 hours (2 am-11 am) with a nice 6 hour sleep in the middle. I gave her $3 k and we were both happy. I may have upped it to 4 k for the same girl if she were 5 years younger, but nowhere near 7-10 k. To me, that's premium price, premium girl, and no counting the clock. (But I may need to adjust my expectation.) Like Ai, this girl was trying to get me for more dates that week. I knew I'd given her too much even at 3 k. (I didn't follow up, but I'm going to contact her this month.).
TT, I can't speak for you, but I don't recall paying 3 k at Nana in 2018-19 for ST. I recall it as 1500-2500ST and 3-4 k (maybe 3-5) LT. I'll be happy if both of you are right and I'm being too alarmist. I'll put it to the stress test in another week or so, and I'll try to keep tight accounting practices for reporting purposes.
Yes, for the second session where the girl cut the time with him short and he only got one pop, the customer had every reason and standing to just give her a generous 2,500 - 3,000 baht and put her out the door with no further discussion.
But for the first session that I responded to above:
- he had her from 20:45 until 3 am. Awake. That is 6+ hours. How is that less of a LT than the fellow who takes a girl at 12 Midnight and she bails at 7 am - 8 am after 2-3 hours of that time was likely spent sleeping?
- 7,000 baht is 2-3 times the going ST rate with better than average lookers at Thermae. He had her, awake, for 2-3 times the length of typical ST and got 2 pops with her.
- Many gogo bar barfines are 1,000 baht now, depending on the night or hour. Many of the better lookers will often hold at 3,000 baht for a 1-2 hour ST and not budge. Unless your first encounter at the first bar you enter is THE girl for you and she agrees to all of your requirements at the door without a single LD being purchased, you can easily add another 2,000 baht to the hunt, totalling 6,000 baht. And you'll be getting a 1-2 hour ST for that 6,000 baht.
- Unless I am mistaken about which Field Report was being referred to, somebody characterized the girls at Thermae as "shop" girls. I am not sure what that means. That they have regular day jobs at a mall shop somewhere? That the girl in question once worked in a massage shop? Not sure. But I just wanted to mention for those who have never been there that Thermae is not a shop. It is a casual bar with relatively low cost drinks where FLs hang out to meet potential customers. No LDs, no barfine, no massage tables or floor mats, everyone remains fully clothed on the premises.I think most all agree that the FIRST night was good value; the SECOND night was where things really went sideways and mistakes were made.
For me, a shop girl is just that, she works in a shop, mall or standalone. Even an office. Maybe a massage shop. She's at Thermae, or perhaps another place, after her day job.
But her complaint about so much cum, so much cum and racing to the toilet to deal with it, twice, just doesn't jive with what I thought was the purpose of a condom.Certainly one possibility, or perhaps a spill when removing. Or even, if most of her previous experiences with foreplay were the "bend over and brace" types, maybe she was amazed at the quantity of her own lube, brought to a froth by the vigorous action.
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