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Kuku696
09-15-23, 20:45
LOL. The only 3 times I tried to book girls on fiwfans was a few years ago but I never got past the clerk, dispatcher, pimp, traffic cop, booker or whoever it is you actually chat with on that site. Oh, I still went to the fiwfans site every now and then out of curiosity, encouraged by the occasional rave reviews I've read here with regard to many of the girls' looks and quality of service.

The last time I perused the site being just 2-3 weeks ago. But I just perused, not even attempting to book anyone.

However, since I heard and saw that some fiwfans girls are now actually listing "No Condom OK" on their profile, today I thought, "What the hell. I fit the profile of the long time resident expat with plenty of free time to shop, explore, read and research those ladies". And since I am now living with a sweet regular, non P4 P university girl honey, those daytime fiwfans arrangements at their hotel would be just the ticket for a bit of variety every now and then.

Unfortunately, for the first time in dozens of 'just looking' visits I have made to that site, including quite recently, it looks like I have suddenly been blocked! LOL. No explanation. No owner's email address or any other link included to find out why and how to regain acess to it. Blocked.

Wouldn't you know it. Just when those "No Condom OK" listings began to appear on some of those girls' profiles. LOL.

Oh well, back to ThaiFriendly, Tinder and catching a Nana Plaza go-go girl Short Time every now and then.

If anybody does know how to get unblocked from fiwfans or how I can at least find out what it was about my casual perusing of the site that got me blocked from it, thanks in advance for the info.After reading this, I tried to access and the message said I am blocked. I cleared the cache, cookies and history and tried, still the same result. I am using Chrome to access this site.

Then I tried the VPN and chose Thailand as location.

Boom no issues, I can access the site with no issues. So it is either looking at your IP address, location or both. I will later try different location and see how they are blocking access.

Lcale1982
09-16-23, 03:52
Unfortunately, for the first time in dozens of 'just looking' visits I have made to that site, including quite recently, it looks like I have suddenly been blocked! LOL. No explanation. No owner's email address or any other link included to find out why and how to regain acess to it. Blocked.

If anybody does know how to get unblocked from fiwfans or how I can at least find out what it was about my casual perusing of the site that got me blocked from it, thanks in advance for the info.Hmm clicking FF links from another site always goes to the Blocked page, but I just refresh and its fine, I'm using Brave browser, not sure if that matter. Pasting URL into my chrome incognito worked fine. Make sure its the new vip domain too, its not dot com anymore.

EihTooms
09-16-23, 04:07
After reading this, I tried to access and the message said I am blocked. I cleared the cache, cookies and history and tried, still the same result. I am using Chrome to access this site.

Then I tried the VPN and chose Thailand as location.

Boom no issues, I can access the site with no issues. So it is either looking at your IP address, location or both. I will later try different location and see how they are blocking access.Ah, you and Goatscrot were on the right track. Changing my VPN location from USA to Thailand fixed it.

Thanks much!

Interestingly, I had simply disconnected my VPN previously and that didn't fix it even though I live in Thailand. Only setting my VPN specifically to Thailand fixed it. And I had been using a VPN set to USA location, Chrome and all the other potentially problematic settings for years with no issues accessing the fiwfans site until just this week.

Another weird and mysteriously related bit; just yesterday my sweet little university student regular live-in girlfriend jokingly complained on her Instagram page that she is suddenly receiving Fiwfans ads on her newsfeed and that she does not need or want them! LOL. No idea what that is about.

EihTooms
09-16-23, 04:13
You have not been blocked! Just use a different browser and you will be able to use it again. If you had been blocked by Fiwfans, you will get a notice page hosted on Fiwfans, not a page like this.

I think it is a security feature adopted by Fiwfans, it won't work sometimes when you click on Fiwfans link from a different webpage like ISG. If it is Chrome/Safari (usually works in Firefox), just clear everything once and copy and paste the link in your browser, don't click on it.

Hope it helps.Thanks much for that info! At this point changing my VPN location from USA to Thailand seems to fix it even though simply disconnecting my VPN while I live in Thailand did not. But I will try your suggestions next time if the VPN solution stops working.

Kuku696
09-16-23, 04:33
After reading this, I tried to access and the message said I am blocked. I cleared the cache, cookies and history and tried, still the same result. I am using Chrome to access this site.

Then I tried the VPN and chose Thailand as location.

Boom no issues, I can access the site with no issues. So it is either looking at your IP address, location or both. I will later try different location and see how they are blocking access.I didn't do much reserch, but here is a short update. I tried Miami as my location. My actual location is North East. Blocked again. Switched to Sydney Australia, No issues. So it is more about your region than just IP address. I do not want to experiment much since I now know how to leap over the blockage.

Goatscrot
09-16-23, 05:25
After reading this, I tried to access and the message said I am blocked. I cleared the cache, cookies and history and tried, still the same result. I am using Chrome to access this site.

Then I tried the VPN and chose Thailand as location.

Boom no issues, I can access the site with no issues. So it is either looking at your IP address, location or both. I will later try different location and see how they are blocking access.From reading their telegram groups it appears they had a DDOS attack yesterday in instituted some new security measures including cloudflare.

DavidSean
09-16-23, 17:27
Recently, came across the instagram profile of an escort (random luck) who is listed at one of the escort agency's site. I have a chance to approach her directly and ask her line ID. Could save me at least half of my money. What are the odds of her giving me her line ID? Might be a stupid question, but I am just curious.

Sonic Bam
09-16-23, 18:38
Turkish Airlines seems to be forgotten by many, but their prices are normally a bit lower than the competition. They don't get the consistently high reviews like Qatar or Emirates or some others, but I'll be flying them next trip to save some money. They also have a deal where you can pay a bit more money and get 2 economy seats for a bit more comfort at a much lower price than business class.I have flown Turkish business class from the UK to KL and BKK a few times in the last 4 years. Yes, their prices are probably the best for business class to SE Asia from the UK but, for me, it is an indicative price for what you get. The in-flight service and the lounge in IST are very good but the business class seat from IST to KL / BK on the B777 is more like premium economy than business class. The B777 cabin is 2-4-2 layout and this is only possible due to how narrow the seats are, not comfortable. I last flew with them January this year and swore it to be the last time until they get a new business class seat.

Nyezhov
09-16-23, 19:57
Recently, came across the instagram profile of an escort (random luck) who is listed at one of the escort agency's site. I have a chance to approach her directly and ask her line ID. Could save me at least half of my money. What are the odds of her giving me her line ID? Might be a stupid question, but I am just curious.Dude I have a really good idea, why don't you ask for her line and see what she says? I bet you it's 50/50, or maybe 60/20, or even could be 40.

HorseTrader
09-16-23, 20:10
I have flown Turkish business class from the UK to KL and BKK a few times in the last 4 years. Yes, their prices are probably the best for business class to SE Asia from the UK but, for me, it is an indicative price for what you get. The in-flight service and the lounge in IST are very good but the business class seat from IST to KL / BK on the B777 is more like premium economy than business class. The B777 cabin is 2-4-2 layout and this is only possible due to how narrow the seats are, not comfortable. I last flew with them January this year and swore it to be the last time until they get a new business class seat.Thanks for that review. I was concerned with business class seat comfort even when I bought my November 2023 flights. My flights are a combination of 777 (2-3-2), A330-300 (2-2-2), and 787-9 (1-2-1 staggered with 2-1-2). None as bad as the 2-4-2 configuration that you had. YouTube makes the 777 and A330-300 look equivalent while the 787-9 looks a bit more comfortable.

HorseTrader
09-16-23, 20:33
From reading their telegram groups it appears they had a DDOS attack yesterday in instituted some new security measures including cloudflare.Yesterday I was locked out on 2 of my 3 devices, but the 3rd device worked fine. VPN didn't make any difference, though Thailand was not one of my VPN choices. Today, all 3 of my devices work fine with FIWFANS.VIP.

Werqweq
09-16-23, 21:50
Recently, came across the instagram profile of an escort (random luck) who is listed at one of the escort agency's site. I have a chance to approach her directly and ask her line ID. Could save me at least half of my money. What are the odds of her giving me her line ID? Might be a stupid question, but I am just curious.What's the worst she's going to do? Say no or block you? I wouldn't bother to even think about it for a second before sending her a message if I were interested.

MachchiBaba
09-16-23, 22:05
And since I am now living with a sweet regular, non P4 P university girl honeySo, this part caught my eyes relative to everything else. Some lessons and some more details around this will be much appreciated I guess.

EihTooms
09-16-23, 23:25
Yesterday I was locked out on 2 of my 3 devices, but the 3rd device worked fine. VPN didn't make any difference, though Thailand was not one of my VPN choices. Today, all 3 of my devices work fine with FIWFANS.VIP.It's the same for me. It was temporary glitch due to the attack mentioned I suppose. Good to hear about the various possible fixes for when there is such a glitch again though.

Kuku696
09-17-23, 00:42
Yesterday I was locked out on 2 of my 3 devices, but the 3rd device worked fine. VPN didn't make any difference, though Thailand was not one of my VPN choices. Today, all 3 of my devices work fine with FIWFANS.VIP.Yes, I just tried without VPN and was able to access FIWFANS. Thank you for the heads up.

Nyezhov
09-17-23, 14:43
So, this part caught my eyes relative to everything else. Some lessons and some more details around this will be much appreciated I guess.Start by being a long term Western expat in Thailand. Thats the detail you can't leave out.

EihTooms
09-17-23, 20:37
So, this part caught my eyes relative to everything else. Some lessons and some more details around this will be much appreciated I guess.Not sure I can offer much in terms of lessens on that. I have been living in Bangkok for 12 years. But in all those years I have been adamantly opposed to finding a soulmate, life partner or even something of less commitment as a live-in girlfriend. I most definitely did not move to Thailand for that. I could have stayed in the USA if that was my goal. If anything, I left USA to "escape" the need or practicality of such a thing. LOL.

But I'll be damned if right as I was turning 70 years old I didn't meet a sweet, cute mid-20's girl, yes a university student, regular girl, not a bargirl, no kids, very fluent in English, great for me in bed, who was apparently smitten enough to want to make me very happy and that's all there has been to it really. She knows why I moved here. She knows my real age. It doesn't seem to matter to her. Or her family, all of whom live in Thailand too and none of whom needs or wants my money. Shockingly.

Right place at the right time and the right girl, I guess.

Raj Patela
09-18-23, 01:39
So, this part caught my eyes relative to everything else. Some lessons and some more details around this will be much appreciated I guess.1st. I think Mr Rooms is in his 70's.

Some guys just GOT it.

ThaiGoodTimes
09-18-23, 03:59
Not sure I can offer much in terms of lessens on that. I have been living in Bangkok for 12 years. But in all those years I have been adamantly opposed to finding a soulmate, life partner or even something of less commitment as a live-in girlfriend. I most definitely did not move to Thailand for that. I could have stayed in the USA if that was my goal. If anything, I left USA to "escape" the need or practicality of such a thing. LOL.

But I'll be damned if right as I was turning 70 years old I didn't meet a sweet, cute mid-20's girl, yes a university student, regular girl, not a bargirl, no kids, very fluent in English, great for me in bed, who was apparently smitten enough to want to make me very happy and that's all there has been to it really. She knows why I moved here. She knows my real age. It doesn't seem to matter to her. Or her family, all of whom live in Thailand too and none of whom needs or wants my money. Shockingly.

Right place at the right time and the right girl, I guess.Sounds very like my story too.

Five years on I feel like I am living a dream daily that I never thought could be anything more than an overnight fantasy.

And one that I was never seeking until I had it placed in my hands and proven as a reality.

Thailand truly is a wonderful place to be.

IndoScot
09-18-23, 17:48
What's up fam? I'm coming to Bangkok after almost 3 years next week. Been there and done that in the past with most MPs, but just wanting to try a different experience this time.

Anyone wondering if there are any 5 Star hotels in Bangkok which secretly do offer some extras in the Spa. If there is, would love to book and stay in those hotels. Just a kink I want to try!

MickeyDuck1208
09-18-23, 18:16
I had this experience in JW Marriott, Jakarta. Day 1 in the spa, and day 2 had the same therapist for in-room massage and full service. I was surprised they offered it. I would infer most of the Bangkok 5 stars do too, given its a similar mongering destination. BUT I have not had experience of this in BKK.

Good luck, and hope you get it!!


What's up fam? I'm coming to Bangkok after almost 3 years next week. Been there and done that in the past with most MPs, but just wanting to try a different experience this time.

Anyone wondering if there are any 5 Star hotels in Bangkok which secretly do offer some extras in the Spa. If there is, would love to book and stay in those hotels. Just a kink I want to try!

DiogenesKnees2
09-18-23, 23:29
Quick report from 4 day trip to Bangkok at the start of September. Thanks as always to all the posters on here for great information and reports.

Short trip so booked 2 nights on Soi 4 and 2 nights Soi 15 to be close as possible to the action.

Day 1: Arrived early and had time to kill before check-in, so went for an oil massage on Soi 8. Expected a tap on the todger halfway through and negotiation for extras, so imagine my surprise when all I got was a really good relaxing massage! Relaxed but unsatisfied, I strolled past Lolitas and spotted a cutie among the usual crew. She was finishing her breakfast, and we went upstairs for 950 baht including two drinks. Name was something like Byu, 23 years old, lovely bum in that schoolgirl dress, long soft hair and sweet nature. Sucked so deep she left some of her breakfast on my cock, but swallowed it again quickly. Asked if she wanted to go to hotel later, but said she only works to 6 pm. Great start to the week.

Dinner in Hooters to observe the scene, boyfriends dropping girls off to work, constant flow of bar-fined girls coming out of the Plaza, things are really back to normal after last year.

Later on Soi 4, loads of FL all the way up the street. Got quoted 10 K for LT from a freelancer, which was brave or maybe just a go-away price. Big selection of shapes, ages, sizes and prices, got quoted from 1 k ST to 10 K LT. Found a nice fresh 27 yo Vietnamese girl, 5 k for long time. She said it was her second night in Bangkok, having come from Ho Chi Minh City as the money is better and less risk of her family finding out. Classic back story, one baby looked after by Mama, boyfriend left her, started working in bars in Vietnam, whatever, probably saving up for a boob job as she complained that her perfect little tits were too small. Big tattoo on her stomach to hide some pretty small stretch-marks, which was a shame, but otherwise perfect body which did it for me. Decent punt all round, lovely soft BJ technique and she got quite turned on with DATY.

Day 2: Nothing on Soi 4 caught my eye, so headed down to Thermae. Shock! It was packed with girls, and swamped with Japanese, Korean and Chinese punters, just like the old days, not like this time last year. I must have been hungry, because I went for a girl with wide hips and big tits. Turned out to be 33, a proper pro with fake boobs, but very well done and well worth the 5 k LT price. She asked for 6 K but was fine with 5 K. Back at the hotel she took off her makeup and contacts, and looked remarkably like an asian relative-in-law of mine back home. Not a bad thing at all and it definitely spiced up the punt.

Day 3: During the day decided to get a Thai massage in a place on Sukhumvit I had been to before. I remember refusing a happy ending there several years ago, and this time, after a proper massage I got the tap on the cock and offer of extra. I went for it this time, and enjoyed watching the poor girl sweat trying to make me cum with a HJ, which is quite hard to do. She was game though, eventually started sucking, FK and rubbing her tits on me which got the job done. Great work ethic shown and a credit to her profession.

Changed hotel to Soi 15 and went to Thermae again. The place was packed again, picked a girl for LT with big tits and slim hips this time. Asked for 6 K, came for 5 K. She was 27, and it turned out her tits were also fake, but so well done I couldn't tell for sure, and I have handled a lot of silicone in my time. In the end I had to ask her, and she gave me all the stats: volume, gel type, Taiwan surgery, etc. Another decent punt, up for everything and very willing. She got massively turned on with DATY, and each time I fingered her clit it felt bigger, which was pretty gratifying considering she must do this 6 nights a week.

Day 4: Last day, time to blow the budget. I had read recently on this forum about "Stocking Massage Spa", so looked it up on Soi 37. Definitely recommended for a visit at least once. Nice quiet place and it was empty when I got there. Very pleasant gentleman issued me in and explained the deal. The gist of it is a line of 8-10 girls in black lingerie and black tights (not stockings). There was a mix of ages, all nice enough looking and no fatties. You choose one and head off for massage + sex or Nuru + sex. I'm not into Nuru, so chose 90 minutes for 3500 with a lovely young girl I consider to be a classic Thai beauty: narrow shoulders, long legs, decent hips, nice handful of tits size be-see, body shape perfect but not a minute of cardio done in her life, apart from shagging of course. She didn't have much English, but I wasn't there for the conversation.

Now for the tights part: coming from a cool northern European country, I see a lot of very sexy legs and bums in black tights year-round, and I didn't realise that I had a latent need to find out what they feel like up jammed close in my face, and then to rip them off to get to the goods. Yes, the tights are for tearing when you feel like it, and if in doubt they make it clear you can do it. Started off with a shower where she washed me down and moved to the bed for a rubbish massage, but not a problem as she slid her slinky tights-clad legs over me and rubbed me with her tits. After a while she rolled me over and I got her to sit on my face while giving a BJ, still in tights. 5 minutes of this and she turned to look at me and gave the international sign to rip her tights open! I opted for a a good rip at the crotch, and she went back to BJ while I dined on her pussy. Due to a slight misalignment I accidentally stuck my tongue in her bumhole at one point, which quite pleasant and she didn't even flinch, so I carried on for a bit. Finished up with covered sex and more DATY, from which she either came or is a very good actor, which I greatly enjoyed. All in all a great different experience, great girl and I would repeat.

Went to Thermae again about 9 pm and picked up a lovely 28 yo pro for 2 K ST. Nice figure with a bit of extra weight on and some junk in her trunk. Decent BJ and 69 great effort made with all positions. She had great english and was very chatty after. She said lots of Chinese punters in Thermae these days as well as Japanese and Korean, and she doesn't go with Chinese as she finds them a bit rude.

Thought I was finished shagging for the week, but had some spare change left so took a stroll down Soi 4 for one last look at the talent around 11.30 pm. A bright young thing tapped me on the arm in the mosh pit outside the Nana Hotel and I stopped to look at her, at which point she whipped out her phone and showed me a message "I am girl, boom boom 1500 I am deaf". So this was one of the famous deaf girls! Not one to pass on a new experience, it turned out 1 K was enough and we trotted back to the hotel for a final round. Strange not being able to chat on the way back, but she seemed happy enough with a big smile on. At the hotel, quick shower and a bit of translation chat on the phone. She had a slim figure, not much in the tits compartment and not quite as well groomed as the normal pros, with a bit more fur on the lower legs than normal, but smooth back, nice bum and nothing much to complain about. Communication was by signing and pointing, but she knew what to do and was pretty enthusiastic, although the only noise she could make was a kind of "ah" to get my attention. Ended up banging her standing up on tiptoe bent over the end of the bed and thoroughly enjoyed the punt. One funny bit was when she slipped out a little fart while looking straight at me, and she didn't bat an eyelid. I guess she couldn't hear it, and I felt something of a common bond as I do that a lot myself.

Overall a decent week with no real low point other than the wankless massage on day 1. It was great to see so many girls and punters back at work after the covid times, and I can only imagine how much busier it will get during peak tourist season.

Bunky
09-19-23, 16:17
Quick report from four day trip to Bangkok at the start of September. Thanks as always to all the posters on here for great information and reports.What an excellent report! Informative and well written, with a dash of humour. Well done!

For those who have recently discovered ISG, read and learn. This chap did his homework and studied what others had posted. He got to BKK and had a nice time. His first post wasn't "Doodz! Where do I find 'da the most smashworthy girlz?" Instead he gave back with a solid trip report. I look forward to more from him.

Bunky

GrapeMan
09-19-23, 17:30
Not sure I can offer much in terms of lessens on that. I have been living in Bangkok for 12 years. But in all those years I have been adamantly opposed to finding a soulmate, life partner or even something of less commitment as a live-in girlfriend. I most definitely did not move to Thailand for that. I could have stayed in the USA if that was my goal. If anything, I left USA to "escape" the need or practicality of such a thing. LOL.

But I'll be damned if right as I was turning 70 years old I didn't meet a sweet, cute mid-20's girl, yes a university student, regular girl, not a bargirl, no kids, very fluent in English, great for me in bed, who was apparently smitten enough to want to make me very happy and that's all there has been to it really. She knows why I moved here. She knows my real age. It doesn't seem to matter to her. Or her family, all of whom live in Thailand too and none of whom needs or wants my money. Shockingly.

Right place at the right time and the right girl, I guess.Props to you man. Sounds like you made something great out of the situation unexpectantly.

GrapeMan
09-19-23, 17:37
Quick report from 4 day trip to Bangkok at the start of September. Thanks as always to all the posters on here for great information and reports.

Short trip so booked 2 nights on Soi 4 and 2 nights Soi 15 to be close as possible to the action.Fantastic report man! This is gold info and great for the forum.

Banana Boi
09-19-23, 18:39
Thanks for the report, Dio. Not often we see an actual review from guys who come on here asking questions. I like your go with the flow style.

TheTank85
09-19-23, 19:31
I was in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket in November last year, it was a bit less crowded, lots of places were shut and alot of the places didn't have too many girls. I asked one of the girls at 102 Massage and she told me that end of November most of the working girls go back to their villages and homes to spend time with their families.

Whenever I am in BKK I book a hotel called Hotel Icon on Sukhumvit Soi 2, its a good hotel, guest friendly, the rooms are huge and its within budget. In the evening at around 5:30-6 pm I would go to Nana Plaza and sit at the bar called Big Dogs right at the entrance. Its a nice bar and I always have a couple of drinks and some food there and watch all the girls come in to work. It gives you an idea of the variety which is on offer. Afterwards I go and checkout a few GoGos, if I don't like anyone in the GoGos I then make my way to Soi Cowboy and stop at Thermae on the way. I usually stay there for 30-40 minutes to get an idea of the selection over there, some girls do give attention while most of the others are busy trying to woo the Koreans and Japanese. Then at around 8:30-9 I make my way to Baccarra at Soi Cowboy, that place is wild I love the vibes there and sitting and watching the girls dance on the glass floor above without wearing any panties definitely gets me in the mood. Baccarra has a nice selection of girls there is a wide variety on offer. Durning the daytime I sometimes visit a couple of massage places which are right next to each other called Addict and 102 Massage both these places have a good selection of girls.


Quick report from 4 day trip to Bangkok at the start of September. Thanks as always to all the posters on here for great information and reports.

Short trip so booked 2 nights on Soi 4 and 2 nights Soi 15 to be close as possible to the action.

Day 1: Arrived early and had time to kill before check-in, so went for an oil massage on Soi 8. Expected a tap on the todger halfway through and negotiation for extras, so imagine my surprise when all I got was a really good relaxing massage! Relaxed but unsatisfied, I strolled past Lolitas and spotted a cutie among the usual crew. She was finishing her breakfast, and we went upstairs for 950 baht including two drinks. Name was something like Byu, 23 years old, lovely bum in that schoolgirl dress, long soft hair and sweet nature. Sucked so deep she left some of her breakfast on my cock, but swallowed it again quickly. Asked if she wanted to go to hotel later, but said she only works to 6 pm. Great start to the week.

Dinner in Hooters to observe the scene, boyfriends dropping girls off to work, constant flow of bar-fined girls coming out of the Plaza, things are really back to normal after last year.

Later on Soi 4, loads of FL all the way up the street. Got quoted 10 K for LT from a freelancer, which was brave or maybe just a go-away price. Big selection of shapes, ages, sizes and prices, got quoted from 1 k ST to 10 K LT. Found a nice fresh 27 yo Vietnamese girl, 5 k for long time. She said it was her second night in Bangkok, having come from Ho Chi Minh City as the money is better and less risk of her family finding out. Classic back story, one baby looked after by Mama, boyfriend left her, started working in bars in Vietnam, whatever, probably saving up for a boob job as she complained that her perfect little tits were too small. Big tattoo on her stomach to hide some pretty small stretch-marks, which was a shame, but otherwise perfect body which did it for me. Decent punt all round, lovely soft BJ technique and she got quite turned on with DATY.

Day 2: Nothing on Soi 4 caught my eye, so headed down to Thermae. Shock! It was packed with girls, and swamped with Japanese, Korean and Chinese punters, just like the old days, not like this time last year. I must have been hungry, because I went for a girl with wide hips and big tits. Turned out to be 33, a proper pro with fake boobs, but very well done and well worth the 5 k LT price. She asked for 6 K but was fine with 5 K. Back at the hotel she took off her makeup and contacts, and looked remarkably like an asian relative-in-law of mine back home. Not a bad thing at all and it definitely spiced up the punt.

Day 3: During the day decided to get a Thai massage in a place on Sukhumvit I had been to before. I remember refusing a happy ending there several years ago, and this time, after a proper massage I got the tap on the cock and offer of extra. I went for it this time, and enjoyed watching the poor girl sweat trying to make me cum with a HJ, which is quite hard to do. She was game though, eventually started sucking, FK and rubbing her tits on me which got the job done. Great work ethic shown and a credit to her profession.

Changed hotel to Soi 15 and went to Thermae again. The place was packed again, picked a girl for LT with big tits and slim hips this time. Asked for 6 K, came for 5 K. She was 27, and it turned out her tits were also fake, but so well done I couldn't tell for sure, and I have handled a lot of silicone in my time. In the end I had to ask her, and she gave me all the stats: volume, gel type, Taiwan surgery, etc. Another decent punt, up for everything and very willing. She got massively turned on with DATY, and each time I fingered her clit it felt bigger, which was pretty gratifying considering she must do this 6 nights a week.

Day 4: Last day, time to blow the budget. I had read recently on this forum about "Stocking Massage Spa", so looked it up on Soi 37. Definitely recommended for a visit at least once. Nice quiet place and it was empty when I got there. Very pleasant gentleman issued me in and explained the deal. The gist of it is a line of 8-10 girls in black lingerie and black tights (not stockings). There was a mix of ages, all nice enough looking and no fatties. You choose one and head off for massage + sex or Nuru + sex. I'm not into Nuru, so chose 90 minutes for 3500 with a lovely young girl I consider to be a classic Thai beauty: narrow shoulders, long legs, decent hips, nice handful of tits size be-see, body shape perfect but not a minute of cardio done in her life, apart from shagging of course. She didn't have much English, but I wasn't there for the conversation.

Now for the tights part: coming from a cool northern European country, I see a lot of very sexy legs and bums in black tights year-round, and I didn't realise that I had a latent need to find out what they feel like up jammed close in my face, and then to rip them off to get to the goods. Yes, the tights are for tearing when you feel like it, and if in doubt they make it clear you can do it. Started off with a shower where she washed me down and moved to the bed for a rubbish massage, but not a problem as she slid her slinky tights-clad legs over me and rubbed me with her tits. After a while she rolled me over and I got her to sit on my face while giving a BJ, still in tights. 5 minutes of this and she turned to look at me and gave the international sign to rip her tights open! I opted for a a good rip at the crotch, and she went back to BJ while I dined on her pussy. Due to a slight misalignment I accidentally stuck my tongue in her bumhole at one point, which quite pleasant and she didn't even flinch, so I carried on for a bit. Finished up with covered sex and more DATY, from which she either came or is a very good actor, which I greatly enjoyed. All in all a great different experience, great girl and I would repeat.

Went to Thermae again about 9 pm and picked up a lovely 28 yo pro for 2 K ST. Nice figure with a bit of extra weight on and some junk in her trunk. Decent BJ and 69 great effort made with all positions. She had great english and was very chatty after. She said lots of Chinese punters in Thermae these days as well as Japanese and Korean, and she doesn't go with Chinese as she finds them a bit rude.

Thought I was finished shagging for the week, but had some spare change left so took a stroll down Soi 4 for one last look at the talent around 11.30 pm. A bright young thing tapped me on the arm in the mosh pit outside the Nana Hotel and I stopped to look at her, at which point she whipped out her phone and showed me a message "I am girl, boom boom 1500 I am deaf". So this was one of the famous deaf girls! Not one to pass on a new experience, it turned out 1 K was enough and we trotted back to the hotel for a final round. Strange not being able to chat on the way back, but she seemed happy enough with a big smile on. At the hotel, quick shower and a bit of translation chat on the phone. She had a slim figure, not much in the tits compartment and not quite as well groomed as the normal pros, with a bit more fur on the lower legs than normal, but smooth back, nice bum and nothing much to complain about. Communication was by signing and pointing, but she knew what to do and was pretty enthusiastic, although the only noise she could make was a kind of "ah" to get my attention. Ended up banging her standing up on tiptoe bent over the end of the bed and thoroughly enjoyed the punt. One funny bit was when she slipped out a little fart while looking straight at me, and she didn't bat an eyelid. I guess she couldn't hear it, and I felt something of a common bond as I do that a lot myself.

Overall a decent week with no real low point other than the wankless massage on day 1. It was great to see so many girls and punters back at work after the covid times, and I can only imagine how much busier it will get during peak tourist season.

TheTank85
09-19-23, 19:42
I will be coming to Thailand at the end of this month with 3 of my friends for my bachelors party. We will be staying in Pattaya for 4 nights and then another 2 nights in BKK.

Looking forward to having a good time with my close friends and having as much fun as we possibly can.

Looking forward to spending time at Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, the clubs (Levels and Climax for freelancers) and the massage shops there.

LR123
09-19-23, 20:37
Thanks Dio.

So much to learn! Looking forward to my upcoming trip. Plan on putting everything I've researched on here to work. Couple of questions. Soi (x). Does that always refer to off of Sukhumvit? Or is it in context of the 'trade'. The prices you were encountering for LT seemed higher than I usually see quoted. Any reason you can think of? And when you take a girl LT, is the assumption an overnight visit with activities in the evening and morning? Or does she run out of the room at first light? If the girls are as plentiful as it seems, almost seems better to get a ST girl at night, get a great evening of sleep without someone hogging the bed, and then pick up something fresh in the AM!

DiogenesKnees2
09-19-23, 22:15
Thanks Dio.

So much to learn! Looking forward to my upcoming trip. Plan on putting everything I've researched on here to work. Couple of questions. Soi (x). Does that always refer to off of Sukhumvit? Or is it in context of the 'trade'. The prices you were encountering for LT seemed higher than I usually see quoted. Any reason you can think of? And when you take a girl LT, is the assumption an overnight visit with activities in the evening and morning? Or does she run out of the room at first light? If the girls are as plentiful as it seems, almost seems better to get a ST girl at night, get a great evening of sleep without someone hogging the bed, and then pick up something fresh in the AM!No problem, I try to give a little bit back as I get so much benefit from the experienced folks on here.

Yes, all Sois were on Sukhumvit. It was such a short trip I had to stay in the one spot.

LT prices were OK for me, but I'm sure there is scope for negotiating if you have the skill and inclination. I find that if I pay close to the asking price I get great service, and on a short trip I didn't have to watch the budget too much. One girl offered LT for 2 K but I passed as she seemed a bit young and didn't have her ID card with her.

For LT I get at least two shots, one evening and one morning, and they usually head off quick after the morning punt and shower. Usual a third pop is OK in the middle of the night but I don't have the energy these days. Personally I prefer LT as I like a chat and a cuddle with the right girl, but I will kick someone out for ST price if it's not working, and that has always been mutual (I. E. They didn't like me either!

On my way back to the airport at 5. 30 am there were a few FL and a bunch of LB on the main Sukhumvit outside Tom'and'Tom's cafe still looking for business, so you can definitely get an AM ST punt if you like!

Kuku696
09-19-23, 23:44
I had this experience in JW Marriott, Jakarta. Day 1 in the spa, and day 2 had the same therapist for in-room massage and full service. I was surprised they offered it. I would infer most of the Bangkok 5 stars do too, given its a similar mongering destination. BUT I have not had experience of this in BKK.

Good luck, and hope you get it!!One and only time I had this experience was in Batam, Indonesia. She was Chinese and in the mid-thirties. She got really excited and we got into business quickly and she was not looking for any money. But I did give her a good tip. I do not remember the name of the Hotel. It was roughly ten years ago.

HorseTrader
09-20-23, 01:34
Soi (x). Does that always refer to off of Sukhumvit? Or is it in context of the 'trade'.....If the girls are as plentiful as it seems, almost seems better to get a ST girl at night, get a great evening of sleep without someone hogging the bed, and then pick up something fresh in the AM!Soi is just a term for a side street off a main road. Some people call them an alley, but many sois are much larger than an alley. There are far fewer girls available in the morning than at night.

Raj Patela
09-20-23, 03:10
Dummy meets Bargirl. Girl might have worked Patpong Area. Hotness. Maybe a 1. 75 on a good day. Yes she is that Unattractive.

Lives together. Getting married.

Legit he can say he doesn't pay for Sex, etc. However he has bought the family numerous cars, motorcycles,. Even claims to have bought a $100,000 house. Can be argued he buying a house the family already owned. LOL.

It's all in real life. Can be seen on You tube or kick.

Name SUSpendas.

TooDirty
09-20-23, 20:20
Soi is just a term for a side street off a main road. Some people call them an alley, but many sois are much larger than an alley. There are far fewer girls available in the morning than at night.Somebody named a street in Sarasota, FL "Soi Nana" and they never caught on. LOL.

GrapeMan
09-22-23, 14:15
Hey guys. Probably expecting to be in Thailand in a couple months and if things work out at home. Any suggestions for providers, escorts, MP girls, whatever with big tits is appreciated. Emphasis on big and bigger. Which seems so Hard to find in Asia compared to elsewhere. Real fake, whatever. Some chubby or thick is fine, just not a fat girl. But would prefer just a regular Thai working girl who is totally stacked, like. Wow she's got huge tits.

Any suggestions? Last time is was there it seemed slim availability outside of some gogo girls in Baccara on Cowboy.

Nyezhov
09-22-23, 14:29
Not sure I can offer much in terms of lessens on that. I have been living in Bangkok for 12 years. But in all those years I have been adamantly opposed to finding a soulmate, life partner or even something of less commitment as a live-in girlfriend. I most definitely did not move to Thailand for that. I could have stayed in the USA if that was my goal. If anything, I left USA to "escape" the need or practicality of such a thing. LOL.

But I'll be damned if right as I was turning 70 years old I didn't meet a sweet, cute mid-20's girl, yes a university student, regular girl, not a bargirl, no kids, very fluent in English, great for me in bed, who was apparently smitten enough to want to make me very happy and that's all there has been to it really. She knows why I moved here. She knows my real age. It doesn't seem to matter to her. Or her family, all of whom live in Thailand too and none of whom needs or wants my money. Shockingly.

Right place at the right time and the right girl, I guess.


1st. I think Mr Rooms is in his 70's.

Some guys just GOT it.


Sounds very like my story too.

Five years on I feel like I am living a dream daily that I never thought could be anything more than an overnight fantasy.

And one that I was never seeking until I had it placed in my hands and proven as a reality.

Thailand truly is a wonderful place to be.*Wipes tear from eye* Love is beautiful innit? I wish I wasnt such a loathesome stoned out gutter crawling butterfly. Maybe when I hit 70 myself next year.


Hey guys. Probably expecting to be in Thailand in a couple months and if things work out at home. Any suggestions for providers, escorts, MP girls, whatever with big tits is appreciated. Emphasis on big and bigger. Which seems so Hard to find in Asia compared to elsewhere. Real fake, whatever. Some chubby or thick is fine, just not a fat girl. But would prefer just a regular Thai working girl who is totally stacked, like. Wow she's got huge tits.

Any suggestions? Last time is was there it seemed slim availability outside of some gogo girls in Baccara on Cowboy.I've seen some fabulous tits in Nana, ie Billboard Twister, etc. . I like big bazooms on a slim girl myself. There are a few girls in Thermae that I have probed who have that look, ie melons on a toothpick, but you have to have the practiced eye.

Is the big boobed older chick with the low cut dresses and upswept blonde hair still hanging out near the seafood corner on the Alley before Soi 11? She's got a set. Way too old for me tho.

Raj Patela
09-23-23, 01:40
Dummy meets Bargirl. Girl might have worked Patpong Area. Hotness. Maybe a 1. 75 on a good day. Yes she is that Unattractive.

Lives together. Getting married.

Legit he can say he doesn't pay for Sex, etc. However he has bought the family numerous cars, motorcycles,. Even claims to have bought a $100,000 house. Can be argued he buying a house the family already owned. LOL.

It's all in real life. Can be seen on You tube or kick.

Name SUSpendas.Forget said unattractive girl apparently has a real boyfriend named POON.

This is Real Folks. Be careful. Of Loving number 55 at Angelwitvh.

At one time I thought these stories were all made up. I was Wrong.

Raj Patela
09-23-23, 01:46
There's a guy who want to go hiking with a girl. Hahaha. Whenever a request like this is made I refer them to Girl Guides of Thailand. Sex not included but like others say I'm sure it's possible with Extra Payment not included on invoice.

Just be sure you are Ok with unattractive Dark Skin,. Usually Skinny.

GrapeMan
09-23-23, 03:50
I've seen some fabulous tits in Nana, ie Billboard Twister, etc. . I like big bazooms on a slim girl myself. There are a few girls in Thermae that I have probed who have that look, ie melons on a toothpick, but you have to have the practiced eye.

Is the big boobed older chick with the low cut dresses and upswept blonde hair still hanging out near the seafood corner on the Alley before Soi 11? She's got a set. Way too old for me tho.Thanks man, usual spots, I'll take a look. I do remember there are a few big tit FLs on Soi 11 sorta near Ambassador, but if I remember right, its really like a Fri. / sat thing, so maybe I get lucky and they are there.

Member #4798
09-23-23, 13:04
It is located in Soi 8 a few hundred feet from Grace hotel.

Booking.com link:

https://www.booking.com/Share-fFeBrU3

Is this hotel couple friendly? Should I register the guest before coming in? Any review of this hotel from someone who's stayed there recently?

Thanks in Advance.

SC.

Member #4798
09-23-23, 13:16
I heard there were plenty of East European (CIS) options pre covid and before the Russia-Ukraine war but now options have dried up.

I heard you can still find a few CIS options in Grace hotel lobby and nightclubs like Shock 39 and Mixx. Is there a good selection available here? Has anyone tried recently?

Can anyone also give pointers to Russian/CIS indies and whether the ones on Massage Republic are legit?

If anyone has had success with CIS birds recently, please DM me some leads.

My DM is also open for any other CIS leads.

Regards,

SC.

TConor
09-23-23, 23:56
I heard there were plenty of East European (CIS) options pre covid and before the Russia-Ukraine war but now options have dried up.

I heard you can still find a few CIS options in Grace hotel lobby and nightclubs like Shock 39 and Mixx. Is there a good selection available here? Has anyone tried recently?

Can anyone also give pointers to Russian/CIS indies and whether the ones on Massage Republic are legit?

If anyone has had success with CIS birds recently, please DM me some leads.

My DM is also open for any other CIS leads.

Regards,


SC.But none Thais are WAY over priced. Why travel to Asia and rey for a farang chick. Maybe if you lived here for a good long while you might think -After having steak for a long time. Beans, beans taste fine.

Tomasb
09-24-23, 16:37
IMO you almost certainly would receive a sub par and expensive experience with any Russians you might encounter. Of this group, many will claim to be ethic Russian when in fact they are from one of the "Stan's" countries. Sometimes, they hang out deeper on Soi 4 before the turnoff to Soi 6. I don't recall ever reading someone posting on here having a positive P4 P experience with a Russian. There used to be quite a few at Minx, however, it appears that venue is no longer popular post Covid so not sure where they hang out — probably Phuket.

Kuku696
09-24-23, 18:39
IMO you almost certainly would receive a sub par and expensive experience with any Russians you might encounter. Of this group, many will claim to be ethic Russian when in fact they are from one of the "Stan's" countries. Sometimes, they hang out deeper on Soi 4 before the turnoff to Soi 6. I don't recall ever reading someone posting on here having a positive P4 P experience with a Russian. There used to be quite a few at Minx, however, it appears that venue is no longer popular post Covid so not sure where they hang out probably Phuket.I have had a good time with two Ukrainian girls who were sitting at the Grace Hotel coffee shop some 8 years ago. My friend I picked up one girl each and then we switched the next day. It was $100.00/ girl / day. They stayed till morning, had breakfast and left.

Davey1965
09-24-23, 21:32
IMO you almost certainly would receive a sub par and expensive experience with any Russians you might encounter. Of this group, many will claim to be ethic Russian when in fact they are from one of the "Stan's" countries. Sometimes, they hang out deeper on Soi 4 before the turnoff to Soi 6. I don't recall ever reading someone posting on here having a positive P4 P experience with a Russian. There used to be quite a few at Minx, however, it appears that venue is no longer popular post Covid so not sure where they hang out probably Phuket.Same in America with the Russian girls. All overpriced and borderline scammers with very subpar experience with rude behavior to boot. Seems like this is their M. O. when working abroad for P4 P jobs.

Kuku696
09-24-23, 22:09
Same in America with the Russian girls. All overpriced and borderline scammers with very subpar experience with rude behavior to boot. Seems like this is their M. O. when working abroad for P4 P jobs.I have not been to a strip bar for many years (Probably 15 years) . But there were several Russian girls dancing and were available at the Sarnia strip bars across the river from Port Huron in Michigan. They rotated between Montreal / Toronto / Windsor strip bars and you could get a BJ during private dances.

TConor
09-25-23, 01:04
Same in America with the Russian girls. All overpriced and borderline scammers with very subpar experience with rude behavior to boot. Seems like this is their M. O. when working abroad for P4 P jobs.https://bangkok-russian-escorts.com/?utm_campaign=MassageRepublic&utm_medium=MassageRepublicProfile&utm_source=MassageRepublic

HfcBangalore
09-25-23, 02:22
I am travelling to Bangkok. Thailand next week. This will be my first time and I'll be accompanied by my wife as well. Can someone recommend spa place in Bangkok where I could take my wife for Spa experience and have my share of fun at spa. Please suggest.

Rodent 65
09-25-23, 04:46
Used fiwfans and other sideline sites almost exclusively since 2020 with the exception of an oily visit now and then and when I walk in to a go-go bar, which is rarely, I find the talent level lacking. Girls are dark with facial features I just don't find appealing, I'm not a fan of the hard Isaan look, and well, with a lot of them their behavior is, how can I put this gently, a bit rude and obnoxious. It's not really the same girls at all. Now many of the punters here seem to be using TSG sideline because of its close proximity to Nana and TSG seems to have more ex-go-go types that some of the other agents. Hint, the farther afield you go the better. Rachada 17 is a goldmine and not so far away.

The gals online tend to be fairer, better behaved, and you have the added bonus of not having to go into a bar, listen to Bad music, and pay for overpriced drinks. Also don't have to worry about getting a short time hotel. Not to mention the fiwfans girls are significantly less expensive than the extortionist prices you are paying in Go-Go's now.

I've actually had the best looking girls of my almost quarter of a century tenure here in Bangkok from fiwfans and some of the other sideline sites over the last 3 years. And I've also had some incredible performers. Yes, it takes a lot of time, but I'd much rather spend that time online than sitting in a go-go bar or prowling the streets. But of course I live here, so my priorities are very different from the tourist or frequent visitors. I love going out in Bangkok, but that's going out to dinners, having a drink and a nice bar, or going to see live music with friends. We haven't been regular go go denizens for well over a decade. Covid times were absolutely amazing for online. And currently the number online is going up. I'm also hearing that business is not very good. Afraid we are in from some potential economic hard times here, which always injects a lot of new talent into the P4 P scene.
One more comment about online, I don't do TF because it is mainly directed at tourists.Just wondering, did you ever get BBFS from fiwfans girls?

ThaiGoodTimes
09-25-23, 06:12
Just wondering, did you ever get BBFS from fiwfans girls?I can answer that for you from my experiences when dabbling with FiwFans mid last year on a short Bangkok visit.

The answer was yes, I did get BBFS, but no CIP.

It was at a higher price point, readily offered up by the girl, and it was not an advertised service.

Nyezhov
09-25-23, 16:07
I have had a good time with two Ukrainian girls who were sitting at the Grace Hotel coffee shop some 8 years ago. My friend I picked up one girl each and then we switched the next day. It was $100.00/ girl / day. They stayed till morning, had breakfast and left.8 years ago. You should have seen it 10 years ago.

You Should have seen Moscow during Yeltsin. A heaven on earth never to be repeated.

I had a real Russky girl in Siem recently.

Member #4798
09-25-23, 16:15
Hey guys,

Thanks for sharing your inputs on Russian birds. Looks like they are not worth it. Better to try the local flavor and enjoy it.

Regards,

SC.

JohnGreenChe
09-25-23, 20:21
Hi guys,

Planning to visit BKK in next 2 weeks. Need help with contacts of independent or escorts.

Guidance on online apps, smooci, MR, Thai Friendly etc.

Appreciate your help. DM is open 👍.

Thanks.

Nyezhov
09-25-23, 22:28
Hi guys,

Planning to visit BKK in next 2 weeks. Need help with contacts of independent or escorts.

Guidance on online apps, smooci, MR, Thai Friendly etc.

Appreciate your help. DM is open.

Thanks.Hi have you taken advantage of the wealth of information on all of the above found here?

If not, here is my contribution: There is a gal near Sukhumvit Soi 7 who dresses like a schoolgirl. Try her.

Also, outside the Thermae bar are some of the hottest gals in Bangkok.

You can thank me later.

TKOman
09-25-23, 23:50
I am travelling to Bangkok. Thailand next week. This will be my first time and I'll be accompanied by my wife as well. Can someone recommend spa place in Bangkok where I could take my wife for Spa experience and have my share of fun at spa. Please suggest.Ok it sounds like what you are looking for is what I call a hybrid massage shop. This is a place that offers a proper (clean) 1 hour massage (or longer) for a pretty reasonable price (e. G. 300-400 B) and then, if you are a guy, an offer for extras will be made in the final 10-15 minutes. This means that if it's your wife, the offer will not be made, and the massage girl will be happy with payment and a modest tip, while in your case, the handjob / blowjob will be offered for an extra fee (it will range but expect 500 B plus). The one logistical problem will be if you and your wife enter the shop together: the staff will not know if she's OK with it, and they definitely do not want a screaming wife on their hands, so they will probably put you two side by side and not offer any extras. So. One way around this is to enter the shop separately and pretend not to know each other; you will likely be sent to a different area so the offer can be made discretely.

If this sounds like your kind of thing, try the shops on Suk soi 24 near the Starbucks, or almost any shop on Soi 22 with girls sitting outside saying "welcome". In Silom the shops west of Chong Nonsi Station are hybrid. As it's your first time, here are a few tips: don't expect full service, shower before you arrive at the shop, take your underwear off before you put on the massage "pyjamas" that they give you, and of course be a gentleman (the girls are surprisingly modest despite their profession). Enjoy!

Raj Patela
09-26-23, 04:03
Ok it sounds like what you are looking for is what I call a hybrid massage shop. This is a place that offers a proper (clean) 1 hour massage (or longer) for a pretty reasonable price (e. G. 300-400 B) and then, if you are a guy, an offer for extras will be made in the final 10-15 minutes. This means that if it's your wife, the offer will not be made, and the massage girl will be happy with payment and a modest tip, while in your case, the handjob / blowjob will be offered for an extra fee (it will range but expect 500 B plus). The one logistical problem will be if you and your wife enter the shop together: the staff will not know if she's OK with it, and they definitely do not want a screaming wife on their hands, so they will probably put you two side by side and not offer any extras. So. One way around this is to enter the shop separately and pretend not to know each other; you will likely be sent to a different area so the offer can be made discretely.

If this sounds like your kind of thing, try the shops on Suk soi 24 near the Starbucks, or almost any shop on Soi 22 with girls sitting outside saying "welcome". In Silom the shops west of Chong Nonsi Station are hybrid. As it's your first time, here are a few tips: don't expect full service, shower before you arrive at the shop, take your underwear off before you put on the massage "pyjamas" that they give you, and of course be a gentleman (the girls are surprisingly modest despite their profession). Enjoy!The answer is just take an Ugly Provider. No one will Sense anything.

If you do take Extras the shop will have a Laugh. They know what's going on if the Masseuse comes out Grinning ear to ear.

Nuttin Serious
09-26-23, 06:00
Hi have you taken advantage of the wealth of information on all of the above found here?

If not, here is my contribution: There is a gal near Sukhumvit Soi 7 who dresses like a schoolgirl. Try her.

Also, outside the Thermae bar are some of the hottest gals in Bangkok.

You can thank me later.100%. You don't always see concise accurate info like this given away.

PgReal
09-26-23, 06:33
Hi guys,

Planning to visit BKK in next 2 weeks. Need help with contacts of independent or escorts.

Guidance on online apps, smooci, MR, Thai Friendly etc.

Appreciate your help. DM is open 👍.

Thanks.Smooci is run by a group of the leading escort agencies, so when you try and contact an escort through it you are actually going through to the escort agency itself not the individual. It does to be fair give good discounts over their standard advertised rates. You'll also find that a lot of the girls work for multiple agencies at the same time. Your can by 3 day subscriptions for a few dollars, so I think it's worth it.

Smooci was broken for a few days last week which I found to my expense when the escort didn't turn up. Smooci admitted they were having issues. My advice is if you don't get a confirmation in 10-15 minutes, move on or contact the support desk immediately. Don't waste your valuable time.

TF is a complete was of time in my opinion (but a bit of a laugh whilst resting up in the hotel) if you only have a short time to enjoy the treasures of Bangkok. Unless you want to spend ages wading through all the girls looking for marriage, money or god knows what! Even when you find the freelancers (I'd say in the minority and only a couple put freelance into their description), they tend to answer in monosyllabic answers which gets real irritating. Clearly they have their phones open somewhere but are doing 10 different times at once.

PgReal
09-26-23, 06:40
Hi guys,

Planning to visit BKK in next 2 weeks. Need help with contacts of independent or escorts.

Guidance on online apps, smooci, MR, Thai Friendly etc.

Appreciate your help. DM is open 👍.

Thanks.Further to my last post, here is probably the real reason I had problems booking on Smooci last week, this link is appearing in the 'agencies' part of this forum.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1307148-thai-police-dismantles-4-hubs-of-escort-websites-serving-foreigners/

So looks like Smooci and some of the agencies were raided last week. Funny they actually gave me a refund last Friday!!

Explorer8939
09-26-23, 13:50
8 years ago. You should have seen it 10 years ago.

You Should have seen Moscow during Yeltsin. A heaven on earth never to be repeated.

I had a real Russky girl in Siem recently.You should have seen Russia outside Moscow, the provincial cities were amazing. I did dozens of ladies for the equivalent of $20. Great service too.

But I would never do a Russian lady in Thailand. Waste of time.

SubCmdr
09-26-23, 19:17
Hi guys,

Planning to visit BKK in next 2 weeks. Need help with contacts of independent or escorts.

Guidance on online apps, smooci, MR, Thai Friendly etc.

Appreciate your help. DM is open 👍.

Thanks.Thai Friend is great for me. No uglies, no fatties, no problems I am pleased to report that Thai Friendly is the primary source of pussy in Pattaya. It is very simple for me.

Here is my script: Hello, I am on vacation in Pattaya. Looking for ST fun with long term possibilities. Give my your WhatsApp or line and we can discuss details there.

This is not mother fucking brain surgery or rocket science. No need to make things harder than they need to be. Change that to Bangkok and you are in business. Now I have never been to Bangkok other than the actual airport. But I have many contacts that I have talking to off of Thai Friendly from Bangkok. I just may need to make a trip there.

Tvataham274
09-26-23, 19:36
This is going to be a really, really dumb question, but how safe and easy is it to cross Sukhumvit road on foot? Are there crosswalks and traffic lights that traffic abides by, or is it more of a coin toss if the traffic stops on a red light like they do in Pattay.

Am considering staying for 2-3 nights on Soi 8 before Pattaya in February.

Lcale1982
09-26-23, 21:12
This is going to be a really, really dumb question, but how safe and easy is it to cross Sukhumvit road on foot? Are there crosswalks and traffic lights that traffic abides by, or is it more of a coin toss if the traffic stops on a red light like they do in Pattay.

Am considering staying for 2-3 nights on Soi 8 before Pattaya in February.Yes there are traffic lights and like bridges I guess that you can go up the stairs to cross the street.

Charles Dickin
09-26-23, 21:36
This is going to be a really, really dumb question, but how safe and easy is it to cross Sukhumvit road on foot? Are there crosswalks and traffic lights that traffic abides by, or is it more of a coin toss if the traffic stops on a red light like they do in Pattay.

Am considering staying for 2-3 nights on Soi 8 before Pattaya in February.Safety is never a dumb question.

I've never had trouble crossing roads in BKK. Though have been nearly run over on the sidewalk by moped taxis.

I recommend waiting for the cars to stop at red lights because some try to run through to avoid a long wait at the lights. That just gets them a long wait the other side of the lights. Motorbikes and scooters may run the red light anyway. They squirm through the gaps.

There's usually someone else crossing with you so put them between you and the traffic.

Remember they supposedly drive on the left side. Motorbikes and mopeds drive every side.

Lcale1982 is right about the using a bridge if there is one. BTS stations can be used as bridges.

Llantarnam
09-26-23, 21:50
This is going to be a really, really dumb question, but how safe and easy is it to cross Sukhumvit road on foot? Are there crosswalks and traffic lights that traffic abides by, or is it more of a coin toss if the traffic stops on a red light like they do in Pattay.

Am considering staying for 2-3 nights on Soi 8 before Pattaya in February.If you walk down Soi 8 towards Sukhumvitz either:

1) turn left and walk about 50 m and you will come to an escalator that will take you up to the first floor level of Nana BTS. You can than walk across the floor and down the stairs to the footway on the opposite side of the road, or.

2) turn right, go about 150 m and there is a pedestrian overbridge (up the steps one side, walk across the road and down the steps the other side).

If going further along Sukhumvitz there are traffic lights on the main road down by Nana plazza, another set up by the junction near Soi Cowboy, and another pedestrian overbridge near Thermae cafe. A lot of the main road has a fence along the certral reservation, so you can't get across. You do see people walking across the road through the gaps (or at the bottom of Soi 8), but I wouldn't recomend it.

Tomasb
09-26-23, 22:42
100%. You don't always see concise accurate info like this given away.Caveat emptor. LOL.

Tvataham274
09-26-23, 23:11
If you walk down Soi 8 towards Sukhumvitz either:

1) turn left and walk about 50 m and you will come to an escalator that will take you up to the first floor level of Nana BTS. You can than walk across the floor and down the stairs to the footway on the opposite side of the road, or.

2) turn right, go about 150 m and there is a pedestrian overbridge (up the steps one side, walk across the road and down the steps the other side).

If going further along Sukhumvitz there are traffic lights on the main road down by Nana plazza, another set up by the junction near Soi Cowboy, and another pedestrian overbridge near Thermae cafe. A lot of the main road has a fence along the certral reservation, so you can't get across. You do see people walking across the road through the gaps (or at the bottom of Soi 8), but I wouldn't recomend it.All very good things, thank you much.

BionicMan
09-27-23, 04:33
Smooci is run by a group of the leading escort agencies (...)

Smooci was broken for a few days last week which I found to my expense when the escort didn't turn up. Smooci admitted they were having issues. My advice is if you don't get a confirmation in 10-15 minutes, move on or contact the support desk immediately. Don't waste your valuable time.
(...).Smooci had been raided by the men in brown and few people got arrested.

Raj Patela
09-27-23, 05:50
Any intelligence.

Nana BTS. Same vicinity as Ugly Schoolgirl. Not there anymore.

There is a lady quite Unattractive. Short-ish,. Stocky, many time wears bright Pink lipstick. Always show unattractive Cleavage, quite big due to bad boob job.

Very diligent. She always there.

TooDirty
09-27-23, 10:11
This is going to be a really, really dumb question, but how safe and easy is it to cross Sukhumvit road on foot? Are there crosswalks and traffic lights that traffic abides by, or is it more of a coin toss if the traffic stops on a red light like they do in Pattay.

Am considering staying for 2-3 nights on Soi 8 before Pattaya in February.There is also a nice little back alley off Soi 8 that takes you to Soi Nana (4) without having to even go out to Sukhumvit. It conveniently passes right by Lolita's and Kasalong BJ bars, and makes the trip to Nana shorter.

Llantarnam
09-27-23, 17:25
Smooci had been raided by the men in brown and few people got arrested.The Smooci website is working, but a lot less BKK girls than normal.

Nyezhov
09-27-23, 18:19
Any intelligence.

Nana BTS. Same vicinity as Ugly Schoolgirl. Not there anymore.

There is a lady quite Unattractive. Short-ish,. Stocky, many time wears bright Pink lipstick. Always show unattractive Cleavage, quite big due to bad boob job.

Very diligent. She always there.That's the chick with the pie face that hangs on the corner near the seafood. Blonde (last month) ponytail, lots of cleavage from the saggy Moo Moos, speaks good English. She offered me a BJ one night (I declined).

Expat American
09-27-23, 18:41
So most people know about Cherry Massage (ex Snow White). Its known as a high PSE place but with older less attractive women. Well, I just got back from a session there and found the rare diamond. I always take two girls because that makes it special. One was a repeat (mid 20's, chubby) but she's an awesome deep throater and rimming expert. And no kids so tight pussy. Tonight I found another girl that did not fit the mold. She was tiny 4"10 at best. 22 yo. Had nice firm boobs, flawless fair skin and a beautiful face (but braces). She could be in the top 10% of any gogo. So without hesitation I took her and my regular for a session. New Girl (NG) started out a bit slow but warmed up very quickly. Her BJ skills were not fully developed, or her tiny mouth couldn't fit my western size dick. But her tongue work was excellent, her pussy tight and snug. And she provided all the PSE one expects there. Including some fun lesbian action (that NG actually seemed to quite enjoy). A truly memorable session, She said she's a college student and I almost believe her.

Earlier that day I checked out Tulip (report in Tulip section) so today I fucked 4 girls in the mouth and pussy and 2 in the ass. Not the cheapest day but well worth it!

Also Sukhumvit around 11.30 pm is a gold mine of Free Lancers. Lots of hotties. I didn't take any because honestly mediocre sex even with a hottie is not doing it for me anymore. And those same girls come to Singapore for just a little bit more money per session (2000 B vs. 3500 B). But there is nothing like Cherry or Tulip where I live so BKK for me is all about the extreme PSE.

Soi Cowboy is the same. Overpriced and constant hustle. Didn't bother with Nana at all.

Kuku696
09-27-23, 19:59
So most people know about Cherry Massage (ex Snow White). Its known as a high PSE place but with older less attractive women. Well, I just got back from a session there and found the rare diamond. I always take two girls because that makes it special. One was a repeat (mid 20's, chubby) but she's an awesome deep throater and rimming expert. And no kids so tight pussy. Tonight I found another girl that did not fit the mold. She was tiny 4"10 at best. 22 yo. Had nice firm boobs, flawless fair skin and a beautiful face (but braces). She could be in the top 10% of any gogo. So without hesitation I took her and my regular for a session. New Girl (NG) started out a bit slow but warmed up very quickly. Her BJ skills were not fully developed, or her tiny mouth couldn't fit my western size dick. But her tongue work was excellent, her pussy tight and snug. And she provided all the PSE one expects there. Including some fun lesbian action (that NG actually seemed to quite enjoy). A truly memorable session, She said she's a college student and I almost believe her.

Earlier that day I checked out Tulip (report in Tulip section) so today I fucked 4 girls in the mouth and pussy and 2 in the ass. Not the cheapest day but well worth it!.Thanks for the great report. Sounds like, you had great fun at Cherry. Would you mind listing the names of the two girls from Cherry as I plan to visit them three weeks from now.

Tvataham274
09-27-23, 21:44
There is also a nice little back alley off Soi 8 that takes you to Soi Nana (4) without having to even go out to Sukhumvit. It conveniently passes right by Lolita's and Kasalong BJ bars, and makes the trip to Nana shorter.Where's this at? Or perhaps I have the location of Nana mixed up? A video I saw of on8 showed that they had a passage to Sukhumvit right below the station. How would one get to soi 4 from there? Or do you mean the road that Citrus hotel is on?

https://imgur.com/BYE55bw

TooDirty
09-27-23, 22:07
Where's this at? Or perhaps I have the location of Nana mixed up? A video I saw of on8 showed that they had a passage to Sukhumvit right below the station. How would one get to soi 4 from there? Or do you mean the road that Citrus hotel is on?

https://imgur.com/BYE55bwIt's a combination of the road coming from Soi Nana past Citrus Suites and then it jinks toward Sukhumvit squeezes down a couple steps and then it opens back up again until it reaches Soi 8. I always used that when I stayed at not on8 but 8ville or something like that in the room with no windows. LOL. Looks like you have to go down soi 8 away from On8 and sukhumvit to the next soi which then takes you over to those steps and Lolita & Kasalong then on towards Soi 4

Nyezhov
09-27-23, 23:54
Where's this at? Or perhaps I have the location of Nana mixed up? A video I saw of on8 showed that they had a passage to Sukhumvit right below the station. How would one get to soi 4 from there? Or do you mean the road that Citrus hotel is on?

https://imgur.com/BYE55bw
It's a combination of the road coming from Soi Nana past Citrus Suites and then it jinks toward Sukhumvit squeezes down a couple steps and then it opens back up again until it reaches Soi 8. I always used that when I stayed at not on8 but 8ville or something like that in the room with no windows. LOL. Looks like you have to go down soi 8 away from On8 and sukhumvit to the next soi which then takes you over to those steps and Lolita & Kasalong then on towards Soi 4Don't over complicate things. Go to Lolitas. Walk 10 meters past it. Go up little stairs to left (3? See Kasalong. Keep walking straight down to Nana. Or reverse.

SunnyBoyPerth
09-28-23, 10:07
Fellow mongers,

I am in need of 2 x 10 MG Cialis in Bangkok. Did have my quota from Australia but seem to have misplaced it. Any idea of a reliable place where I could get it? Thanks.

MomoFarang
09-28-23, 13:26
Fellow mongers,

I am in need of 2 x 10 MG Cialis in Bangkok. Did have my quota from Australia but seem to have misplaced it. Any idea of a reliable place where I could get it? Thanks.Pulse Clinic, Suk Soi 13, of Near Silom BTS. Totally safe and reliable. Can ask pharmacies, but some won't have.

Shockman
09-28-23, 20:02
I visited last January and saw faint signs of life at the entrance from a couple of portly, middle-aged ladies who claimed to be Turkish and a Indian-looking "mamasan" sitting in the lobby whom I did not approach. None of the ruckus at the lobby, disco and coffee shop from before.

I saw a recent youtube video (that I can't retrace) which indicated that, if I'd approached the mamasan, I would have been taken to rooms upstairs housing several "ee" and "Russians" (I have not found a true Russian there yet!

I did spot a few Ethopians / other African FLs who looked to be worth checking out.


The area around Grace in Soi 3-5 is an Arab popular place, lot of eat outs and shops are Arab too. You will see lot of hotel guests as them. Given the DXB vibe, I guess that's where you will find the most Stanis. I have seen some EE and Stanis in some 5 stars (JW, Anantara specifically) but choices might be fewer and prices higher.

Phazze93
09-30-23, 07:10
Hey why'all I'm going back for the first time in several years.
I've got a buddy there now and it seems like the landscape might have changed ever so slightly?
Any feedback here would be much appreciated 3-4 years out of the game is hard to know where to start LOL.

GOGOs.
-before, Bacarra was my go-to. Rainbow 2 & 5 in Nana.
Sounds like talent has been overall lacking? Nana being in better shape than Soi Cowboy?

SOAPIES.
-before, the LORD was my go-to. But I know they closed.
Sounds Maria and Black Caviar have replaced as top tier? Or the Lord equivlant?

ONLINE.
-I only knew of SMOOCI before, but never actually tried as I was worried about photoshop / catfish.
Seeing a lot of posts regard FIWFANS.
Took a look, the prices are outrageously lower than GOGO / SOAPY rates.
Objectively speaking, I would assume there's a lot of photoshop going on?
How often have why'all found success via FIWFANS over GOGOs?
Is it like the online equivalent of like a THERMAE?
Are those prices only available to locals? Or foreigners as well?

Thanks again, cheers.

Lcale1982
09-30-23, 08:11
...
Seeing a lot of posts regard FIWFANS.
How often have why'all found success via FIWFANS over GOGOs?
Is it like the online equivalent of like a THERMAE?
Are those prices only available to locals? Or foreigners as well?
I prefer FF / Thermae since I don't care for drinking or that whole bar scene. You got to read up on reviews for FF and yea they'll be P.S. Some more than others. I think FF was orig for locals but us foreigners found out and price stays same. Most do have 52 cm (your girth) rule I believe, not sure how strictly its enforced.

For looks Thermae imo better looking ladies, but service generally better with FF. If you picking the better looking ones they might only go upstairs which was 700 baht ST when I was there. I was close enough like 5 min walk so they were fine w / that. ST seem like 3 k and most won't do LT since they'll try to get 2 or 3 customers so beware LOL. Also they seem to like Jap / Kor customers but I seen indian / whites walk out w / people too. Had my ups and downs with both but I will still stay away from bars unless going w / friends.

Phazze93
09-30-23, 08:24
I prefer FF / Thermae since I don't care for drinking or that whole bar scene. You got to read up on reviews for FF and yea they'll be P.S. Some more than others. I think FF was orig for locals but us foreigners found out and price stays same. Most do have 52 cm (your girth) rule I believe, not sure how strictly its enforced.

For looks Thermae imo better looking ladies, but service generally better with FF. If you picking the better looking ones they might only go upstairs which was 700 baht ST when I was there. I was close enough like 5 min walk so they were fine w / that. ST seem like 3 k and most won't do LT since they'll try to get 2 or 3 customers so beware LOL. Also they seem to like Jap / Kor customers but I seen indian / whites walk out w / people too. Had my ups and downs with both but I will still stay away from bars unless going w / friends.I'm asian in my early 30's, decent shape, objectively good looking enough not packing a horse cock so I don't think I'm scaring any girls off LOL.

3 k ST, 5 k LT base still seems to be the going base rate so that's great considering exchange rate is in our favor right now.

BKK has always been a barefine / customer turnover game and pattaya being a drinks game so I'm not surprised to hear any of this.

What is this 700ST? This is in thermae so I'ma be fuckin on a bed crawling with roaches?

FF got me nervous, again with the photoshopping. But considering the prices, I'd be going through 4 girls a day LMAO.

Hard to process considering website is in Thai and there's no english version except google translate. Just don't know if I have the patience to go hit / miss all the time if I'm only there for 2 weeks.

Lcale1982
09-30-23, 14:56
What is this 700ST? This is in thermae so I'ma be fuckin on a bed crawling with roaches?LOL I've never tried it, its a hotel right above Thermae, Ruamchitt or something. My hotel Best comfort was like 850 B a night so I wasn't going to shell out another 700 LOL.

BionicMan
09-30-23, 16:16
I visited last January and saw faint signs of life at the entrance from a couple of portly, middle-aged ladies who claimed to be Turkish and a Indian-looking "mamasan" sitting in the lobby whom I did not approach. None of the ruckus at the lobby, disco and coffee shop from before.

I saw a recent youtube video (that I can't retrace) which indicated that, if I'd approached the mamasan, I would have been taken to rooms upstairs housing several "ee" and "Russians" (I have not found a true Russian there yet!

I did spot a few Ethopians / other African FLs who looked to be worth checking out.Reminds me of the Rajah hotel in between soi 2 and 4 where EE ladies were in the rooms and a pimp would either take you or show the way.

GuyBrusg1957
09-30-23, 17:08
I don't know if it's just me but literally all the ladies outside or inside Thermae look phenomenally better than those on FW or TC.

SkipJack06
09-30-23, 17:57
I don't know if it's just me but literally all the ladies outside or inside Thermae look phenomenally better than those on FW or TC.I was there last spring I stayed in the Ruamchitt hotel above. There are a lot of young, attractive ladies there in the basement bar area some weren't very friendly. Mostly the older ladies were the friendliest. The bar require the men buy a drink upon entering; one of the ladies said they have to pay 50 baht to enter. Then there's women just outside-some attractive-that would hustle very aggressively for a date. I took a couple of the older ones from the bar to my room I think they charged like 1000-1500 baht or so. One night I stayed until 2 am closing it seemed most of the ladies left alone. The whole scene didn't make a lot of sense to me; what's the purpose of the ladies going there if they don't leave with a date? There's plenty of men walking around browsing. Seems like it would be a waste of time for the ladies to spend time there and then leave alone.

Nyezhov
09-30-23, 19:56
Reminds me of the Rajah hotel in between soi 2 and 4 where EE ladies were in the rooms and a pimp would either take you or show the way.Thats what, 10 years ago.

There's no EE girls or Russian girls at the Grace.

Nyezhov
09-30-23, 19:59
LOL I've never tried it, its a hotel right above Thermae, Ruamchitt or something. My hotel Best comfort was like 850 B a night so I wasn't going to shell out another 700 LOL.The Ruamchitt is fine, go down to Soi Nana if you want some cheaper and gnarlier places.

Banana Boi
09-30-23, 20:09
What is this 700ST? This is in thermae so I'ma be fuckin on a bed crawling with roaches?Nothing wrong with Ruamchit hotel but avoid those windowless rooms in any hotel. I usually stay there if I'm only in BKK for 1 night and Thermae is my main target for the night. I stay in the larger rooms for 1500 per night. Rooms are larger than normal and it's clean. No time wasted going up and down and through 3 or 4 girls in a night. Japanese men will stay at Ruamchit, Silom area for Thaniya Road, and Sukhumvit Soi 33.


BKK has always been a barefine / customer turnover game and pattaya being a drinks game so I'm not surprised to hear any of this.

This is a very statute assessment, Phazze. Glad to see you'll be returning to Pattaya soon.

Giovanni Volo
09-30-23, 20:51
I was there last spring I stayed in the Ruamchitt hotel above. There are a lot of young, attractive ladies there in the basement bar area some weren't very friendly. Mostly the older ladies were the friendliest. The bar require the men buy a drink upon entering; one of the ladies said they have to pay 50 baht to enter. Then there's women just outside-some attractive-that would hustle very aggressively for a date. I took a couple of the older ones from the bar to my room I think they charged like 1000-1500 baht or so. One night I stayed until 2 am closing it seemed most of the ladies left alone. The whole scene didn't make a lot of sense to me; what's the purpose of the ladies going there if they don't leave with a date? There's plenty of men walking around browsing. Seems like it would be a waste of time for the ladies to spend time there and then leave alone.Be aware that the "girls" outise Ruamchitt are NOT girls.

They cannot enter to Thermae because they need to show documents with write that they are girls.

The one outise is trans. Men that became girls.

Giovanni Volo
09-30-23, 20:53
LOL I've never tried it, its a hotel right above Thermae, Ruamchitt or something. My hotel Best comfort was like 850 B a night so I wasn't going to shell out another 700 LOL.How was Best Confort hotel?

I am thinking about for next Summer.

Lcale1982
09-30-23, 21:06
How was Best Confort hotel?

I am thinking about for next Summer.Pasting a review I wrote from the hotel section.

I stayed at Best Comfort multiple times. I really like the location, pretty close to Thermae, everyone was okay to walk there cept 1 lady who wanted 1 k more to walk there, no thanks LOL.

It is an older hotel, didn't really try out the gym or pool up top, but guessing no ones coming to Bangkok to workout, not those muscles atleast hah.

Free breakfast, I don't care for food so fine by me. Toast, butter, strawberry jam, rice porridge, chicken sausage, fried eggs, cereal (only cornflakes), fruit (apple). Milk, water, orange juice, tea, probably coffee don't recall seeing that though. Gave two bottle water daily which was nice.

Brought a lady almost every day, no problem. Get extra towels at front desk if needed. Liked the room size and has a big mirror above the headrest of bed and small mirror over the desk on side of bed. Had a couch too not too comfy but nice to sit there to chat w / the gal before the main event. Free parking, had Thermae lady come back another day and park there for LT =).

Most likely I'll stay there a third time as I like the close proximity to Thermae and pretty cheap, last month like 25 bucks a day after fees.

Con's like I said its older but fine for me, don't need anything fancy. First time I was there in Dec, had a couple mosquitos LOL so bought a zapper to kill them but this last trip 3 weeks and no bugs. I was on 2nd floor when I had bugs and 6th when I didn't, not sure if that matters. Also had issue w / shower last trip after a session we couldn't easily take shower cause the water pressure was like dead so the water just trickles out hah. Only happened a few times late at night probably cause a lot of people showering after a session, who knows? On the last few days I think I figured it out and you just need to keep the shower head on the top holder thingie and its fine. One thing I noticed about fridge is I think it turns off when you don't have the keycard on the wall. Didn't notice that first stint so maybe had a bad room. Figure it be separate power line but the ice would be melted by time I come back hah. TV was small but I didn't turn it on at all.

11Bravo
10-01-23, 03:27
Can someone please DM me 2-3 freelance contacts (25 years old) please if possible?

I took premium TF subscription but its so time consuming.

Thanks!


I have a phone full. DM me for my PayPal.

Is it me, or has the level of mongering intelligence and Thailand experience soley decreased here over the past few years? I mean, its like some folks haven't even played for pay in their own countries. And the level of questioning about basics in life: how to get SIM cards? Are the reviews online real? Does she love me?

Does no one read this forum any more? Is RTFF and the search button an anachronism? Do some of you new guys realize that above and beyond the sex stuff, there is a plethora of totally useful travel stuff and tips about life in Thailand here that is available no where else on the net.

Instead we get "hey dude, got any numbers?" Yeah dude, I got hundreds, sucks to be you doesn't it?Have to agree with Nyezhov, but yet, vetting HydTesla5, is his post any different than what I've seen over the last 20+ years from posters from a certain geographic location? Fine in their own crappy threads but hate it when it bleeds over here. It always amazes me when someone complains that it's so time consuming to put in the effort to search, to read, when I'm sure they have the time to punt. All too easy to take 1 minute to post a question rather than make the effort yourself. Of course, if you're a member of the secret ISG cabal, with access to the concierge service, all that info is readily available to you from the paid staff.

I'm just joking, poking (proding), having a bit of fun, there is NO cabal. Note to cabal members: the next meeting will be usual time, usual place. Neckties mandatory for entrance (though they don't have to be worn). Party favors will be available on-site, along with some give-away drawings for freebies, generously donated by some of the better shops. Rumor has it that the rockin-Moroccan sisters will be there, with their ATLAS mountains on display, along with some Thai tasties. Fantasy Hotel will offer room discounts to members.

Newton York
10-01-23, 03:56
Diet Coke just sprayed out of my nose! Many thanks to Mr. York for the laugh, and for his helpful contributions to this thread. Good on him for imagining his best life.

BunkyThat's right, I can only pray I'll die fast and hard like that in Bangkok. Then 2 local cops will show up at my dead body, see some weird fat, ugly, deranged lookin' foreigner, then give each other a knowing look, they've seen it all, and say to each other, "well, at least he died doing what he loved'. Life ain't worth livin' the way most of us live it now fellas. There's got to be some way to free ourselves of this grind so we can go to Bangkok and party till the end. Like the motto of this most hallowed forum, "money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac". I don't need a whole lot more money, just some more, just that bit more and I can get the hell out of north america, find my way back to south east Asia. I don't care which way the political pendulum swings here, it all sucks and I want to split. I got news for ya fellas, it's curtains for all things euro and anglo-centric. The future is Asia baby! The future is Thailand, it's paradise! I want to die there, somebody just end me already.

Newton York
10-01-23, 04:00
I know. I know, I'm tired of going on and on about this guy too, but please just one more post. Cause I want to be like this guy. It's the dream man! Imagine living his life. Just imagine it. Being a douchbag digital nomad, just capturing footage of hot babes, uploading them on the youtubes, making cash, fucking Thai babes whenever you want, rinse and repeat!

God, why is it so freakin' hard to find a decent job these days. This new one I'm at really kinda sucks. North america SUCKS! I get shipped over to south east Asia decades ago and what do I get in return at my old age? Bupkes! Jeez. Well, I'll be happy to make a few bucks from this shitty job, they'll fire me soon enough. I ain't quittin' though, these fuckers will have to fire this old man. This whole 'job' thing is really for young people. Any of you fine folks remember the 80's? You remember how easy it was to get work back then?

This is the proof that the dude's camera is hidden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwKaxv5OIM.

Yes, I will agree that sometimes he does un-hide the camera, in some of his other videos, it's clear he's taken the camera out and shooting, but on the streets, in that context, it's all touristy, it's all fine. He's making these videos from a combo of hidden cam and normal footage. Also, in one of his videos in Soi Cowboy you'll actually see a chick trying to cover her face with her hair, cause he's just using his camera out in the open, cause you can do that in Soi Cowboy. It's not against any policy to use a camera there, people take pictures there all the time. It's inside the bars that's a no go for cameras.

Newton York
10-01-23, 04:03
Last time I talk about people making youtube videos of Bangkok babes, I swear!

I remember last year when I did my reconnaissance of Thaniya, scoping out the chicks, knowing it's for Japanese big spenders with a whole lot of drinking, I didn't participate, but I wanted to take one photo, just one, so I went to what I considered to be a respectful distance from the all the girls and even the street itself, walking towards the BTS already, closer to the BTS than Thaniya itself and I mean pretty damn far, and from all the way there one of the mamasan's was screaming at me to not take a picture. I'm tellin' ya fellas. I was pretty freakin' far away. So this dude, he's all up close and personal with everyone at Thaniya, there's no earthly way the camera is exposed. He's hidden it like a pro. I'll find out the secret man, I will make this happen as well. I'm going to make this happen for myself. I mean dudes, going down this rabbit hole, I've seen youtube channels launched not 6 months ago, with nothing but videos of people walking around Bangkok streets, and they maybe average 1 k views, but as soon as there's 'nana', 'soi cowboy' or anything like that in the video title, the view count goes up to the tens of thousands. Some of these channels get well over 10k subscribers in less than a year. No fancy music, no titles, no effects, nothing. Just some basic editing. They're monetized at that point. Sure, in the beginning it's not anymore than a few hundred dollars a month, but by God, what a beginning. Keep uploading videos and the channel will only grow.

This is viable fellas, and one day, I'm going to be one of these douchebag digital nomad types too. One day you'll see your faces in one of my videos, but you'll never suspect it cause my camera's going to be hidden. Also you'd never guess it could be me, cause I'll just be another one of those fat, ugly old foreigner fucks you see all over Thailand. Cause normally, the douchebag types that upload these sort of videos, tend to be the millenial or gen z types. More money than sense. Everything comes easy to them. Sure, we're leaving the world in chaos as they take over, but at least they'll have fun as the world burns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwKaxv5OIM

Pertaining to the same video, if you look at around 3:15, you'll see an old guy with a hat. Now imagine if that old guy was wearing a fanny pack, around the stomach area or even across the chest as a sling bag, you'd never guess in a million years that in the bag there was a 4k state of the art gopro recording everyone. From that distance, with just a small hole for the lens to shoot out of. No one would ever suspect it. That's me, that's my future. What a bright and Bangkok future it would be. He looks like he'd keel over from a stiff breeze, but I betcha, he'll die from fuckin' a babe while in Thailand somewhere, and you know what? He'll die happy. In this cold, cruel, inherently unfair and shitty world, it's the very least we can hope for.

Did you notice the girl following him from behind, don't think she's with him, but anyway, for a quick second she glances at the man capturing this footage. Look at her eye line, she's looking at the guy himself, not at the camera, where her eye is looking at is right above the camera. It's not that she's weirded out by a camera, she's weirded out by the fact that some guy is just standing there looking at her. As you see more and more of his videos, you'll notice almost no one looks directly at the camera. Any footage on youtube where the camera is visible to the people being filmed, someone will look right into the lens, making eye contact with the camera as it were, cause people in general don't like to be filmed anyway. What happens is people will notice the camera right away, look right into the lens, then turn away. Look at how he's doing it. This man is operating on a whole different level. Look at around 7:00, how is he getting this close to the chick, and she's got no clue? There's always a chance he's shooting at 8 K, and bringing it down to 4 K in edit, but I think it's more likely he's found some ingenious way to be able to even zoom in on the fly, while the camera is hidden. Truly amazing.

But out of respect though, you fellas won't have to worry, I would never capture footage inside a place like Thermae or the soapies or oilies, I've got too much regard and respect for our hobby to sully the girls or patrons like that. But in public spaces like the streets? It's all fair game there.

Newton York
10-01-23, 04:08
Have to agree with Nyezhov, but yet, vetting HydTesla5, is his post any different than what I've seen over the last 20+ years from posters from a certain geographic location? Fine in their own crappy threads but hate it when it bleeds over here. It always amazes me when someone complains that it's so time consuming to put in the effort to search, to read, when I'm sure they have the time to punt. All too easy to take 1 minute to post a question rather than make the effort yourself. Of course, if you're a member of the secret ISG cabal, with access to the concierge service, all that info is readily available to you from the paid staff.

I'm just joking, poking (proding), having a bit of fun, there is NO cabal. Note to cabal members: the next meeting will be usual time, usual place. Neckties mandatory for entrance (though they don't have to be worn). Party favors will be available on-site, along with some give-away drawings for freebies, generously donated by some of the better shops. Rumor has it that the rockin-Moroccan sisters will be there, with their ATLAS mountains on display, along with some Thai tasties. Fantasy Hotel will offer room discounts to members.

To all cabal members. Same time and place for the cabal meeting, don't forget. To everyone else, for the last time, there is no cabal!
Glad to see you back 11Bravo! Looking forward to your reviews. Sadly for me, I don't know when or if I'll be back in Bangkok yet, but by God, I will try.

11Bravo
10-01-23, 04:24
On contribution front, hit me up in case anyone needs leads in Canada (Montreal / Toronto), north america. This forum does not cater to those areas, hence my post history consist of requests only.Glad to help you out:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?110-Quebec

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?385-Montreal

Of course, if everyone is like you, there might not be a lot of activity; but the threads ARE there, with Montreal seeming to have a steady flow of posts (of course NOT any from you). But hey, writing an FR does take time, which you seem to be short of. So with respect to BKK, no use wasting my time helping someone with so little time to spare.

Shout out to Bunky and Newton York, two CONTRIBUTING members. Funny how the people you would help never ask for any.

To all cabal members. Same time and place for the cabal meeting, don't forget. To everyone else, for the last time, there is no cabal!
Glad to see you back 11Bravo! Looking forward to your reviews. Sadly for me, I don't know when or if I'll be back in Bangkok yet, but by God, I will try.Not quite BOTG, but starting my intel collection by reading (SAY WHAT ?!?!?!) before a trip late this year.

SuperLove
10-01-23, 08:04
Some of the girls I liked. 0. 54 minutes, 3. 28 in black dress, 3. 37 (2 girls / both sweets), 5. 28 and 5. 55 in black pants. Can some kind soul confirm if all are 100 % girls and none LB's. I am asking just so I can trust my eyes when I am in Bangkok in a few days time.


Last time I talk about people making youtube videos of Bangkok babes, I swear!

I remember last year when I did my reconnaissance of Thaniya, scoping out the chicks, knowing it's for Japanese big spenders with a whole lot of drinking, I didn't participate, but I wanted to take one photo, just one, so I went to what I considered to be a respectful distance from the all the girls and even the street itself, walking towards the BTS already, closer to the BTS than Thaniya itself and I mean pretty damn far, and from all the way there one of the mamasan's was screaming at me to not take a picture. I'm tellin' ya fellas. I was pretty freakin' far away. So this dude, he's all up close and personal with everyone at Thaniya, there's no earthly way the camera is exposed. He's hidden it like a pro. I'll find out the secret man, I will make this happen as well. I'm going to make this happen for myself. I mean dudes, going down this rabbit hole, I've seen youtube channels launched not 6 months ago, with nothing but videos of people walking around Bangkok streets, and they maybe average 1 k views, but as soon as there's 'nana', 'soi cowboy' or anything like that in the video title, the view count goes up to the tens of thousands. Some of these channels get well over 10k subscribers in less than a year. No fancy music, no titles, no effects, nothing. Just some basic editing. They're monetized at that point. Sure, in the beginning it's not anymore than a few hundred dollars a month, but by God, what a beginning. Keep uploading videos and the channel will only grow.

This is viable fellas, and one day, I'm going to be one of these douchebag digital nomad types too. One day you'll see your faces in one of my videos, but you'll never suspect it cause my camera's going to be hidden. Also you'd never guess it could be me, cause I'll just be another one of those fat, ugly old foreigner fucks you see all over Thailand. Cause normally, the douchebag types that upload these sort of videos, tend to be the millenial or gen z types. More money than sense. Everything comes easy to them. Sure, we're leaving the world in chaos as they take over, but at least they'll have fun as the world burns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwKaxv5OIM

Pertaining to the same video, if you look at around 3:15, you'll see an old guy with a hat. Now imagine if that old guy was wearing a fanny pack, around the stomach area or even across the chest as a sling bag, you'd never guess in a million years that in the bag there was a 4k state of the art gopro recording everyone. From that distance, with just a small hole for the lens to shoot out of. No one would ever suspect it. That's me, that's my future. What a bright and Bangkok future it would be. He looks like he'd keel over from a stiff breeze, but I betcha, he'll die from fuckin' a babe while in Thailand somewhere, and you know what? He'll die happy. In this cold, cruel, inherently unfair and shitty world, it's the very least we can hope for.

Did you notice the girl following him from behind, don't think she's with him, but anyway, for a quick second she glances at the man capturing this footage. Look at her eye line, she's looking at the guy himself, not at the camera, where her eye is looking at is right above the camera. It's not that she's weirded out by a camera, she's weirded out by the fact that some guy is just standing there looking at her. As you see more and more of his videos, you'll notice almost no one looks directly at the camera. Any footage on youtube where the camera is visible to the people being filmed, someone will look right into the lens, making eye contact with the camera as it were, cause people in general don't like to be filmed anyway. What happens is people will notice the camera right away, look right into the lens, then turn away. Look at how he's doing it. This man is operating on a whole different level. Look at around 7:00, how is he getting this close to the chick, and she's got no clue? There's always a chance he's shooting at 8 K, and bringing it down to 4 K in edit, but I think it's more likely he's found some ingenious way to be able to even zoom in on the fly, while the camera is hidden. Truly amazing.

But out of respect though, you fellas won't have to worry, I would never capture footage inside a place like Thermae or the soapies or oilies, I've got too much regard and respect for our hobby to sully the girls or patrons like that. But in public spaces like the streets? It's all fair game there.

Tvataham274
10-01-23, 11:20
What really gets me are people who do videos, hidden or not, but don't make it obvious where they are recording.

For some place that one has been to before, and is familiar with the surroundings? Sure, that's fine to leave it vague. But for people who are looking to get a lay of the land, it's entirely useless.

Half the times on these channels, I'm pausing it and looking up storefronts to try to get an idea of where they're at. Absolutely useless.

There is a nice guy in Pattaya who does bike rides in the evening, and he not only posts the route he took, but also a little note on the screen of which street he is on. Amazingly helpful. I haven't been able to find anyone who is doing something similar with Bangkok though.

Ahmedmadar
10-01-23, 12:03
Hello.

Looking for recommendations for good Nuru massage in silom area.

My hotel is booked in the silom area and have only one night stay in Bangkok.

Looking forward for some recommendations nearby or some places close by to silom.

Raj Patela
10-01-23, 14:07
I know. I know, I'm tired of going on and on about this guy too, but please just one more post. Cause I want to be like this guy. It's the dream man! Imagine living his life. Just imagine it. Being a douchbag digital nomad, just capturing footage of hot babes, uploading them on the youtubes, making cash, fucking Thai babes whenever you want, rinse and repeat!

God, why is it so freakin' hard to find a decent job these days. This new one I'm at really kinda sucks. North america SUCKS! I get shipped over to south east Asia decades ago and what do I get in return at my old age? Bupkes! Jeez. Well, I'll be happy to make a few bucks from this shitty job, they'll fire me soon enough. I ain't quittin' though, these fuckers will have to fire this old man. This whole 'job' thing is really for young people. Any of you fine folks remember the 80's? You remember how easy it was to get work back then?

This is the proof that the dude's camera is hidden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwKaxv5OIM.

Yes, I will agree that sometimes he does un-hide the camera, in some of his other videos, it's clear he's taken the camera out and shooting, but on the streets, in that context, it's all touristy, it's all fine. He's making these videos from a combo of hidden cam and normal footage. Also, in one of his videos in Soi Cowboy you'll actually see a chick trying to cover her face with her hair, cause he's just using his camera out in the open, cause you can do that in Soi Cowboy. It's not against any policy to use a camera there, people take pictures there all the time. It's inside the bars that's a no go for cameras.You are FREE to do what he does. And Rake in the Big Baht.

If you got the personality of Johnny What's Happening they'll even let you Film inside.

Raj Patela
10-01-23, 14:08
That's right, I can only pray I'll die fast and hard like that in Bangkok. Then 2 local cops will show up at my dead body, see some weird fat, ugly, deranged lookin' foreigner, then give each other a knowing look, they've seen it all, and say to each other, "well, at least he died doing what he loved'. Life ain't worth livin' the way most of us live it now fellas. There's got to be some way to free ourselves of this grind so we can go to Bangkok and party till the end. Like the motto of this most hallowed forum, "money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac". I don't need a whole lot more money, just some more, just that bit more and I can get the hell out of north america, find my way back to south east Asia. I don't care which way the political pendulum swings here, it all sucks and I want to split. I got news for ya fellas, it's curtains for all things euro and anglo-centric. The future is Asia baby! The future is Thailand, it's paradise! I want to die there, somebody just end me already.The Future is not Thailand. Hahaha.

Nyezhov
10-01-23, 15:31
Be aware that the "girls" outise Ruamchitt are NOT girls.

They cannot enter to Thermae because they need to show documents with write that they are girls.

The one outise is trans. Men that became girls.Really? Wow!

Boys if you don't know that fact by now, you haven't ready any further back than a few pages ago.

But hey that's they way its been for like 20 plus years at Thermae. And there are a mixing of real girls out there, you have to be able to tell the difference.

Nyezhov
10-01-23, 15:38
Hello.

Looking for recommendations for good Nuru massage in silom area.

My hotel is booked in the silom area and have only one night stay in Bangkok.

Looking forward for some recommendations nearby or some places close by to silom.There is a whole subforum on Massage places, start there, and it takes no time to go from Silom to Nana or Phrom Pong to expand your horizons. Google BTS stations. There is even some computer stuff these days that gives directions too!

Nyezhov
10-01-23, 15:41
The Future is not Thailand. Hahaha.Well for me, I'm back to Siem Reap after the first of the year, Thailand is way too much of a pain to live there for me, ID rather visit every few weeks.

ThrowAway3602
10-01-23, 16:40
Last time I talk about people making youtube videos of Bangkok babes, I swear!

I remember last year when I did my reconnaissance of Thaniya, scoping out the chicks, knowing it's for Japanese big spenders with a whole lot of drinking, I didn't participate, but I wanted to take one photo, just one, so I went to what I considered to be a respectful distance from the all the girls and even the street itself, walking towards the BTS already, closer to the BTS than Thaniya itself and I mean pretty damn far, and from all the way there one of the mamasan's was screaming at me to not take a picture. I'm tellin' ya fellas. I was pretty freakin' far away. So this dude, he's all up close and personal with everyone at Thaniya, there's no earthly way the camera is exposed. He's hidden it like a pro. I'll find out the secret man, I will make this happen as well. I'm going to make this happen for myself. I mean dudes, going down this rabbit hole, I've seen youtube channels launched not 6 months ago, with nothing but videos of people walking around Bangkok streets, and they maybe average 1 k views, but as soon as there's 'nana', 'soi cowboy' or anything like that in the video title, the view count goes up to the tens of thousands. Some of these channels get well over 10k subscribers in less than a year. No fancy music, no titles, no effects, nothing. Just some basic editing. They're monetized at that point. Sure, in the beginning it's not anymore than a few hundred dollars a month, but by God, what a beginning. Keep uploading videos and the channel will only grow.

This is viable fellas, and one day, I'm going to be one of these douchebag digital nomad types too. One day you'll see your faces in one of my videos, but you'll never suspect it cause my camera's going to be hidden. Also you'd never guess it could be me, cause I'll just be another one of those fat, ugly old foreigner fucks you see all over Thailand. Cause normally, the douchebag types that upload these sort of videos, tend to be the millenial or gen z types. More money than sense. Everything comes easy to them. Sure, we're leaving the world in chaos as they take over, but at least they'll have fun as the world burns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwKaxv5OIM

Pertaining to the same video, if you look at around 3:15, you'll see an old guy with a hat. Now imagine if that old guy was wearing a fanny pack, around the stomach area or even across the chest as a sling bag, you'd never guess in a million years that in the bag there was a 4k state of the art gopro recording everyone. From that distance, with just a small hole for the lens to shoot out of. No one would ever suspect it. That's me, that's my future. What a bright and Bangkok future it would be. He looks like he'd keel over from a stiff breeze, but I betcha, he'll die from fuckin' a babe while in Thailand somewhere, and you know what? He'll die happy. In this cold, cruel, inherently unfair and shitty world, it's the very least we can hope for.

Did you notice the girl following him from behind, don't think she's with him, but anyway, for a quick second she glances at the man capturing this footage. Look at her eye line, she's looking at the guy himself, not at the camera, where her eye is looking at is right above the camera. It's not that she's weirded out by a camera, she's weirded out by the fact that some guy is just standing there looking at her. As you see more and more of his videos, you'll notice almost no one looks directly at the camera. Any footage on youtube where the camera is visible to the people being filmed, someone will look right into the lens, making eye contact with the camera as it were, cause people in general don't like to be filmed anyway. What happens is people will notice the camera right away, look right into the lens, then turn away. Look at how he's doing it. This man is operating on a whole different level. Look at around 7:00, how is he getting this close to the chick, and she's got no clue? There's always a chance he's shooting at 8 K, and bringing it down to 4 K in edit, but I think it's more likely he's found some ingenious way to be able to even zoom in on the fly, while the camera is hidden. Truly amazing.

But out of respect though, you fellas won't have to worry, I would never capture footage inside a place like Thermae or the soapies or oilies, I've got too much regard and respect for our hobby to sully the girls or patrons like that. But in public spaces like the streets? It's all fair game there.You are way overestimating the earnings of these youtube channels. Family friendly content rakes in the money, sexualized content does not. Even if this is just "walking around the streets" content, it gets lumped into categories that get way less $ per million views.

Also if you get enough flags, your entire account can be demonitized and taken down. Months of hard work, building a fan base, subscribers, etc. Down the drain. Sure you can create a new channel, but what happens when you run out of checking accounts for deposit and youtube flags your main accounts from receiving adsense revenue?

Are some of these creators making money? Of course. Are some of these creators making a comfortable living doing this? Probably not. Some of these videos have thousands of views, some have less than a hundred. It's a numbers game and it's grueling.

LoveShibuyaGirls
10-01-23, 22:31
I apologize if this has been discussed before, but did the Rainbow bars in Nana Plaza survive COVID?

Lcale1982
10-01-23, 22:33
I apologize if this has been discussed before, but did the Rainbow bars in Nana Plaza survive COVID?Yup was there a few weeks ago and saw some on 2nd floor iirc.

GrapeMan
10-01-23, 23:27
I apologize if this has been discussed before, but did the Rainbow bars in Nana Plaza survive COVID?There's a bunch of bars named rainbow stuff, even one on Cowboy I think. Rainbow 4 though is still the main Rainbow, and as in the past, seems to cater to asian-tourist clientele. Its now not topless though, only a few spots in Nana are topless anymore.

Vicky Cooper
10-02-23, 05:39
Just back from a short 1 week stay in BKK. Had a wonderful time. Visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and a few massage shops and enjoyed the short trip. In the mornings I did a few touristy things like visiting malls. The rains in the evenings in BKK are a bit of a downer at present. They can ruin your plans for the night.

I have taken a liking to one of the gogo bar dancers in Nana Plaza. I had bar fined her on my last visit once and again this time and also bought her a few lady drinks. Sometimes she is not available to come & sit down next to me as she has other patrons buying her drinks and I would be sitting alone along enjoying the views of the other dancers on the stage. But even though she was busy entertaining the other customers, she would be caught sneaking glances at me very often. Like constantly observing me in the bar and my moves. Anyone knows why? Surely she does not have a crush on me as I'm only a customer and not a Thai cassanova.

She had not come to work on one day & I bar fined another lady and she knows about it. They all seem to gossip among one another about to bar fined whom?, who bought who lady drinks, who came into the bar on what day etc etc.

Paolo99
10-02-23, 11:52
Some of the girls I liked. 0. 54 minutes, 3. 28 in black dress, 3. 37 (2 girls / both sweets), 5. 28 and 5. 55 in black pants. Can some kind soul confirm if all are 100 % girls and none LB's. I am asking just so I can trust my eyes when I am in Bangkok in a few days time.I don't think any of these are LBs.

Anyway it's not that hard to distinguish LBs. If not by their looks, there is still there voice, even for post ops.

In any case, if you still have a doubt, if you're located in a bar just pay her a drink with strong alcohol inside, like Sangsom with Coke (no tequila shots, insist on whisky). Tell them to put a good dose of Sangsom in the glass and make sure they know you're looking when they do it (you can also check the glass when she comes back with it, smell it, even taste it). The alcohol will make her lose her feminin manners and you'll see her manly behaviour coming back quickly.

If it's a street freelancer, if you still have doubts after takling with her, don't take any risk and skip her.

But the fear of bringing back an LB in Thailand is too hyped in my opinion, you don't need to stress about that.

ChrisCross123
10-02-23, 13:18
There's a bunch of bars named rainbow stuff, even one on Cowboy I think. Rainbow 4 though is still the main Rainbow, and as in the past, seems to cater to asian-tourist clientele. Its now not topless though, only a few spots in Nana are topless anymore.If I remember correctly the bars with 🌈 in the name were the ones where I was the least sure whether the staff is just heavily covered with make up plus some surgery or post op ladybugs.

Paolo99
10-02-23, 15:37
Sometimes she is not available to come & sit down next to me as she has other patrons buying her drinks and I would be sitting alone along enjoying the views of the other dancers on the stage. But even though she was busy entertaining the other customers, she would be caught sneaking glances at me very often. Like constantly observing me in the bar and my moves. Anyone knows why?Easy, she wants to keep you as her repeat customer by giving you the feeling that she would want to be sitting next to you if she hadn't already been called by that customer.

AggieDad1
10-02-23, 16:33
Just back from a short 1 week stay in BKK. Had a wonderful time. Visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and a few massage shops and enjoyed the short trip. In the mornings I did a few touristy things like visiting malls. The rains in the evenings in BKK are a bit of a downer at present. They can ruin your plans for the night.

I have taken a liking to one of the gogo bar dancers in Nana Plaza. I had bar fined her on my last visit once and again this time and also bought her a few lady drinks. Sometimes she is not available to come & sit down next to me as she has other patrons buying her drinks and I would be sitting alone along enjoying the views of the other dancers on the stage. But even though she was busy entertaining the other customers, she would be caught sneaking glances at me very often. Like constantly observing me in the bar and my moves. Anyone knows why? Surely she does not have a crush on me as I'm only a customer and not a Thai cassanova.

She had not come to work on one day & I bar fined another lady and she knows about it. They all seem to gossip among one another about to bar fined whom?, who bought who lady drinks, who came into the bar on what day etc etc.She looks at you and dreams of her new house you will build her in her village.

Bunky
10-02-23, 19:05
It always amazes me when someone complains that it's so time consuming to put in the effort to search, to read, when I'm sure they have the time to punt. All too easy to take one minute to post a question rather than make the effort yourself.Maybe I'm odd, but I think the pre-trip research is fun.

On a cold boring night in Falangland, hot toddy close at hand, I read all the new reports in all of the Bangkok and Pattaya forums. I use my Google Fu to supplement what I read. The online maps help me locate places I've never been to before. The hotels and restaurants often have online photos or reviews. Clubs and bars have Facebook pages. And yes, I watch the videos. On another screen I have a Microsoft Word document open, so I can take notes or save links to particularly helpful reports.

I concede my systemic study might be a bit much for some guys. And I'm well aware that many of us are English Language Learners for whom the reading can be a heavy lift. But for me the research is a pleasant way to experience my holiday months in advance. When I run across a query from somebody who's done his due diligence, I'm happy to post something, and in doing so I can re-live past trips. Finally, when I touch down at BKK I don't need a complicated plan. My advance research allows me to go with the flow and take what comes, secure in the knowledge that I'm as familiar as I can be with the current state of play.

Bunky

Nyezhov
10-02-23, 19:41
Maybe I'm odd, but I think the pre-trip research is fun.

On a cold boring night in Falangland, hot toddy close at hand, I read all the new reports in all of the Bangkok and Pattaya forums. I use my Google Fu to supplement what I read. The online maps help me locate places I've never been to before. The hotels and restaurants often have online photos or reviews. Clubs and bars have Facebook pages. And yes, I watch the videos. On another screen I have a Microsoft Word document open, so I can take notes or save links to particularly helpful reports.

I concede my systemic study might be a bit much for some guys. And I'm well aware that many of us are English Language Learners for whom the reading can be a heavy lift. But for me the research is a pleasant way to experience my holiday months in advance. When I run across a query from somebody who's done his due diligence, I'm happy to post something, and in doing so I can re-live past trips. Finally, when I touch down at BKK I don't need a complicated plan. My advance research allows me to go with the flow and take what comes, secure in the knowledge that I'm as familiar as I can be with the current state of play.That's the way I roll. Everything I need to know is on the net or here. Newbies take note.

KumuMan
10-02-23, 20:16
I don't think any of these are LBs.

Anyway it's not that hard to distinguish LBs. If not by their looks, there is still there voice, even for post ops.

In any case, if you still have a doubt, if you're located in a bar just pay her a drink with strong alcohol inside, like Sangsom with Coke (no tequila shots, insist on whisky). Tell them to put a good dose of Sangsom in the glass and make sure they know you're looking when they do it (you can also check the glass when she comes back with it, smell it, even taste it). The alcohol will make her lose her feminin manners and you'll see her manly behaviour coming back quickly.

If it's a street freelancer, if you still have doubts after takling with her, don't take any risk and skip her.

But the fear of bringing back an LB in Thailand is too hyped in my opinion, you don't need to stress about that.I walked by a ladyboy bar and the mama talked me into shooting pool with one of her "girls".

Stayed for a game until a regular couple came in wanting to shoot pool so I gave up the table and sat outside the bar with another "girl". I could not tell she was LB, no make up, no voice, hands, throat give away. We chatted for 1/2 hour then I just asked" are you girl". She said no dear I'm ladyboy. So simple, just ask.

Tomasb
10-02-23, 21:53
As the OP noted below; it's simple, just ask. A LB will not lie as it could lead to trouble in the room.


I walked by a ladyboy bar and the mama talked me into shooting pool with one of her "girls".

Stayed for a game until a regular couple came in wanting to shoot pool so I gave up the table and sat outside the bar with another "girl". I could not tell she was LB, no make up, no voice, hands, throat give away. We chatted for 1/2 hour then I just asked" are you girl". She said no dear I'm ladyboy. So simple, just ask.

ChrisCross123
10-03-23, 01:52
Which are your favourite short time hotels in Bangkok next to nana as well as anywhere else. I only know two which are located in a side street of suk 4 like maybe 300 m from nana plaza. The first girl I took brought me there and I just stuck with it. Both are okay but lack mirrors for example. Also not places where you can bring less professional acquaintances.

Paolo99
10-03-23, 08:34
As the OP noted below; it's simple, just ask. A LB will not lie as it could lead to trouble in the room.Sorry to disagree with this statement. Your post sounds like they will all tell the truth and could be misleading to some naive members who would follow your recommendation. Some of them might tell the truth but not all.

What if she says she is a girl and the customer realize too late that she lied to him? What if the trouble in the room is what she really want?

LBs are known to be the biggest scammers in Thailand, they can be very violent at times and can behave very badly. You really think being honest is among the priorities for these kind of LBs?

Getting in the customer's room is already 90% of the job done, they only need to make a big scandal in the room, customer will get afraid of the consequences, give them whatever they want to make them leave as quick as possible. That's just one tactic these people are familiar with.

Nobody should believe what a wg says, trust your feeling and your experience, not what she (or he) says.

ChrisCross123
10-03-23, 11:31
I'm curious about your preferred short time hotels next to nana as well as anywhere else in Bangkok.

SuperLove
10-03-23, 13:33
My pics were purely based out of watching the video, there are times when one can't make out by looks & a chitchat and on top I am not a pro at finding this out anyways. Always better to ask in advance if she is 100 % girl or LB, no one wants an ugly surprise in the room. Dampener and a spoiler. SL.


I don't think any of these are LBs.

Anyway it's not that hard to distinguish LBs. If not by their looks, there is still there voice, even for post ops.

In any case, if you still have a doubt, if you're located in a bar just pay her a drink with strong alcohol inside, like Sangsom with Coke (no tequila shots, insist on whisky). Tell them to put a good dose of Sangsom in the glass and make sure they know you're looking when they do it (you can also check the glass when she comes back with it, smell it, even taste it). The alcohol will make her lose her feminin manners and you'll see her manly behaviour coming back quickly.

If it's a street freelancer, if you still have doubts after takling with her, don't take any risk and skip her.

But the fear of bringing back an LB in Thailand is too hyped in my opinion, you don't need to stress about that.

Tvataham274
10-03-23, 18:24
Pimp club, google allmighty says this is its site and location. Is this the right place?

https://www.pimpbangkok.com

Opposite PT Gas Station, 496 Rotchanamin Alley, Khwaeng Wang Thonglang, Wang Thonglang, Bangkok 10310, Thailand.

Nyezhov
10-03-23, 18:34
I'm curious about your preferred short time hotels next to nana as well as anywhere else in Bangkok.Wherever the girl takes you. They know them all.

Nyezhov
10-03-23, 18:37
Sorry to disagree with this statement. Your post sounds like they will all tell the truth and could be misleading to some naive members who would follow your recommendation. Some of them might tell the truth but not all.

What if she says she is a girl and the customer realize too late that she lied to him? What if the trouble in the room is what she really want?

LBs are known to be the biggest scammers in Thailand, they can be very violent at times and can behave very badly. You really think being honest is among the priorities for these kind of LBs?

Getting in the customer's room is already 90% of the job done, they only need to make a big scandal in the room, customer will get afraid of the consequences, give them whatever they want to make them leave as quick as possible. That's just one tactic these people are familiar with.

Nobody should believe what a wg says, trust your feeling and your experience, not what she (or he) says.If you can't recognize a ladyboy you shouldn't be playing.

They won't lie to you if they know you know.

If you are uncertain, go play somewhere else.

So simple.

Allover
10-03-23, 18:40
Sorry to disagree with this statement. Your post sounds like they will all tell the truth and could be misleading to some naive members who would follow your recommendation. Some of them might tell the truth but not all.

What if she says she is a girl and the customer realize too late that she lied to him? What if the trouble in the room is what she really want?

LBs are known to be the biggest scammers in Thailand, they can be very violent at times and can behave very badly. You really think being honest is among the priorities for these kind of LBs?

Getting in the customer's room is already 90% of the job done, they only need to make a big scandal in the room, customer will get afraid of the consequences, give them whatever they want to make them leave as quick as possible. That's just one tactic these people are familiar with.

Nobody should believe what a wg says, trust your feeling and your experience, not what she (or he) says.Yes Paolo a very small percentage would lie. If in doubt I walk away. But you can always ask to check the ID which shows the sex at birth.

KumuMan
10-03-23, 20:35
Sorry to disagree with this statement. Your post sounds like they will all tell the truth and could be misleading to some naive members who would follow your recommendation. Some of them might tell the truth but not all.

What if she says she is a girl and the customer realize too late that she lied to him? What if the trouble in the room is what she really want?

LBs are known to be the biggest scammers in Thailand, they can be very violent at times and can behave very badly. You really think being honest is among the priorities for these kind of LBs?

Getting in the customer's room is already 90% of the job done, they only need to make a big scandal in the room, customer will get afraid of the consequences, give them whatever they want to make them leave as quick as possible. That's just one tactic these people are familiar with.

Nobody should believe what a wg says, trust your feeling and your experience, not what she (or he) says.The security guards at the hotels know instantly, they have saved my ass before. It's why I always talk to and gift small tokens to them upon arrival.

ThaiGoodTimes
10-04-23, 06:11
Yes Paolo a very small percentage would lie. If in doubt I walk away. But you can always ask to check the ID which shows the sex at birth.You assume the card they have, use, and show you, is actually theirs.

In my opinion there is little safety there at all.

Given how easy it is to get a friends card that is similar in looks / height, and most cards don't look anything like a girl / LB in makeup.

Tomasb
10-04-23, 15:30
Yes, a very small percentage of LB's would lie especially if they think you are a rube or very drunk but checking the DL will work which indicates their gender and DoB in English. This is how hotel desk clerks know if it's a LB or GG or underage.

I also think it's an over generalisation to paint a broad brush that most scams in Thailand are conducted by LB's. They can come from any gender or walk of life here, though I think Thailand in general is vastly more safe especially as it pertains to mongering. Colombia is particularly perilous as some girls have been known to resort to knock out drugs (drop in drinks etc), which has even killed some guys.


Yes Paolo a very small percentage would lie. If in doubt I walk away. But you can always ask to check the ID which shows the sex at birth.

Nyezhov
10-04-23, 21:14
Yes, a very small percentage of LB's would lie especially if they think you are a rube or very drunk but checking the DL will work which indicates their gender and DoB in English. This is how hotel desk clerks know if it's a LB or GG or underage.

I also think it's an over generalisation to paint a broad brush that most scams in Thailand are conducted by LB's. They can come from any gender or walk of life here, though I think Thailand in general is vastly more safe especially as it pertains to mongering. Colombia is particularly perilous as some girls have been known to resort to knock out drugs (drop in drinks etc), which has even killed some guys.Key Words:

Rube.

Drunk.

Don't be a rube or a drunk kiddies.

Shockman
10-05-23, 00:19
It is awesome when your searches unearth gems.


That's the way I roll. Everything I need to know is on the net or here. Newbies take note.

Questner
10-05-23, 02:13
Yes Paolo a very small percentage would lie. If in doubt I walk away. But you can always ask to check the ID which shows the sex at birth.In Brazil there is a right to issue a new ID and change the above:

https://oglobo.globo.com/brasil/transexuais-ja-podem-mudar-nome-em-documentos-nos-cartorios-de-todo-pais-22836060

PhilAndererer
10-05-23, 12:49
Just like you, I find Bangkok's Sukhumvit a bit rushed compared to Pattaya. However, the Nuru massages in Sukhumvit are great.

This time around, I'm keen on exploring Patpong, Thaniya, Silom, and the nearby areas. But I wasn't sure where to begin. The top results on Google are dominated by ads and basic information, while some of the niche sites I checked out didn't quite capture the essence of these places.

Your post offered a concise yet comprehensive insight into what to expect in Patpong and Silom. Thanks for sharing such valuable information it's saved me a lot of time. I've decided to dive in and give Patpong a try, especially since my past experiences in Sukhumvit have been a tad underwhelming.


So having enjoyed 10 nights in Pattaya, mainly in Gents Clubs, headed to Bangkok a city I know quite well from many trips. On many previous trips I've pretty much concentrated on The area between Nana, via Thermae on Sukhumvit and onto Soi Cowboy, though in 2022 I did have fun on Soi 11 (Suk). This time I wanted to try something a little different, and decided that I would only spend 2 of my 5 nights in those old haunts and for the rest would head to Surawong / Thaniya / Silom area for a change. I was glad I did.

Stayed at various locations including the Okura Prestige very nice indeed though thought the cantilever pool would be the main attraction but it wasn't all that. The lobby and the rooms are superb. Jumped on the BTS to Phrom Phong to check out the "Stocking Spa massage". Appreciate there is a dedicated MP thread so will keep this short fancied the idea of a sexy massage from a hostess in suspenders well was disappointed the girls line up in the parade wearing tights / pantyhose and don't wear stockings with the thick tops at all. 7 girls to chose from and Sky was the best. Stunning slim brunette who made the journey worthwhile chose the Nuru option for 3500 and it was worth every penny everything included.

Decided to do my normal walk in reverse and headed to Cowboy. Absolutely rammed despite the torrential rain no surprise of course as this is rainy season. The overall noise volume has increased somewhat and I found myself asking what on earth I was doing there! Whilst I'm not old and I dolike some great music this was deafening. Conversations are therefore partly shouting. Awful. For old times sake took a beer in each of Baccara, Shark and Suzy Wong's but with one stand out 9/10 in Shark the offerings were poor.

On to Thermae same old You'll find someone to your liking but the format walking that circle isn't the best and the venue is looking tired and past it. Still jam packed inside so I suppose it works and the good news is that it's possible to have a conversation which I found almost impossible in Cowboy. In the many years I've frequented this bar I think I've only taken maybe 5 girls and as I left it I vowed not to return but my guess is I will do!
There are so many other options available in BKK that returning to one that doesn't do it for you isn't worth it.

Onto Nana which was almost a repeat of Cowboy. Tried Billboard and Spankys but nothing special and again the noise levels were prohibitive. Ended up in Hilary 2 also very noisy but good crowd and a decent freelancer made that trip worth it. Not before she begged me to go with her to Analisa massage a short walk away, to "meet her friend" in the hope of a threesome. The friend turned out to be a line up of 6 girls didn't select any but was surprised that 2 of them were 7/10+.

So my 2 nights on Sukhumvit were up and I found myself genuinely wondering if I'm just past the din of it all. I started to wonder why on earth I'the left Pattaya for this but I had work in Bangkok so could not avoid it.

Up and breakfast done headed to new hotel in Surawong the Marriot. It's a 20 min walk to Thaniya but wanted the exercise. Overall I much preferred the Silom / Surawong area. It doesn't suffer the same manic traffic as Suk. Loved the whole area around MahaNakhon and the shops / cafes in its lobby. Thaniya was actually great fun and because it is so wide, it's easy to navigate and without the horrendous booming music of Cowboy or Nana. The options in Thaniya are plentiful. The girls are nearly all in uniform and for sure they are trying to attract a Japanese crowd. As I am not Japanese I noticed that I wasn't getting waved or smiled at as much but I didn't mind that at all and during my 3 nights there no girl I approached rejected an advance. The Managers / mamasans are usually outside with the girls seeking to beckon you in. For most of the bars it is a standard service where you select the girl from outside (most are seated but some stand in lines) and take her to a room for drinks, karaoke if that's your thing and for the sex. Prices range from 2500 to 3500 including 500 or 600 for the room "hire". But there is an expectation you'll buy more than one drink for you and one for the lady at 300 each. It was clearly going to run up a 4-5000 bill which is fine. Yes I know I could get FS in one of the many local oilies for 1500 but the experience was great fun, a little odd in terms of being in an "entertainment" room but you soon relax into it. Alternatively you can go to the Sena club on Thaniya featured in a YouTube video and thought I'the check it out. The girls still sit on stools outside but upstairs there is a large pool table / darts (but no rooms to play in so you take the girl to the hotel if things are going well 3500 inc bar fine so entirely reasonable.

There are a few agogos in the Patpong night market street Kings Castle, Kings Castle II and III and Radio City across the road. Then Pink Panther on the street corner of another road close by. Usual agogo stuff not as full on as Nana / cowboy / or Kink or Windmill in Pattaya (wildest 2 I have been to this trip) but some very pretty options and again 3500 plus a bar fine of only 500.

Visited Octopus Fetish Club small backstreet Patpong Alley (which also boasts a few agogos) 1000 entry plus a drink the guy on the door waving a cane about wanted you to buy a 300 drink on top but relents to 100! Inside wow what a great atmosphere compared to Castle in Pattaya. 8 girls including a mix of ranges and a lovely Madam who is the bar owner who though older still looks really good. Guys butt naked being spanked, one paraded around as a dog in some mask thing (I had to bite a lip not to start laughing). This is not a place for the feint hearted or reserved took a seat expecting to be able to "watch" but you are quickly descended upon by the girls who want you to buy them ladydrinks at 300 and who very swiftly have more than roaming hands and want your clothes off there and then in public view (though its all very red / dark). Several guys were completely naked within 10 minutes of walking through the door and they do not struggle for customers here. That is because the level of "service" in the bar is swift and good. The lady drink 300 price is not cheap but comes with benefits! The girl expects to earn that drink. Two guys came in and bought a round of 5 drinks for 5 girls who then rapidly had their cocks out for blowjobs. It is possible to take girls upstairs to rooms for 3500. Very good vibe in the club.

Plenty of the usual oily options locally in street surrounding Patpong Night Market and usual services all on offer usually for 1000-1500. Got quoted 3000 by the best looking girl I found in one of them but whilst she wouldn't reduce to 1500 we did agree 2000. That was in one of the bigger Urban massage places was surprised they catered for sexual services as it looked more like an upscale massage place and indeed their massages were superb.

All in all another great trip mix of work and pleasure. For those wondering about a break from Cowboy / Nana this was a good choice though you might want to stay at Raya hotel or LE Meridian which are both immediately across the road from Patpong / Thaniya.

Nyezhov
10-05-23, 15:13
Just like you, I find Bangkok's Sukhumvit a bit rushed compared to Pattaya. However, the Nuru massages in Sukhumvit are great.

This time around, I'm keen on exploring Patpong, Thaniya, Silom, and the nearby areas. But I wasn't sure where to begin. The top results on Google are dominated by ads and basic information, while some of the niche sites I checked out didn't quite capture the essence of these places.

Your post offered a concise yet comprehensive insight into what to expect in Patpong and Silom. Thanks for sharing such valuable information it's saved me a lot of time. I've decided to dive in and give Patpong a try, especially since my past experiences in Sukhumvit have been a tad underwhelming.Can't help you with basic search techniques, but if you found Suk underwhelming, you sure aren't going to be happy with Patpong. I know that there are very few residents and long term mongers that go there absent another reason to be in that area. I haven't stepped foot in Patpong for years.

Now if you are Japanese, by all means go to Thaniya. If you are gay, you will be in Silom anyway.

Will Smith69
10-05-23, 20:54
This is indeed an amazing post. I learned a lot. I will be in BKK in November.

W I understand that this is an interesting area.

Can you recommend a nice hotel?

I would like to have a nice location, it makes me feel better.


Just like you, I find Bangkok's Sukhumvit a bit rushed compared to Pattaya. However, the Nuru massages in Sukhumvit are great.

This time around, I'm keen on exploring Patpong, Thaniya, Silom, and the nearby areas. But I wasn't sure where to begin. The top results on Google are dominated by ads and basic information, while some of the niche sites I checked out didn't quite capture the essence of these places.

Your post offered a concise yet comprehensive insight into what to expect in Patpong and Silom. Thanks for sharing such valuable information it's saved me a lot of time. I've decided to dive in and give Patpong a try, especially since my past experiences in Sukhumvit have been a tad underwhelming.

PhilAndererer
10-05-23, 21:06
LOL, I'm neither Japanese nor gay.

I'm just searching for a more relaxed experience. In Sukhumvit, I often feel rushed. Pattaya, on the other hand, offers varied experiences – from beer bars to gentleman clubs – and it feels more spacious with a diverse range of options.

I get that Bangkok / Sukhumvit is a bustling city, but everything seems limited to a few lanes and similar offerings. The predominant gogos and nurus all feel the same. And places like Soi Cowboy, feels like you're done exploring in a flash. His description sounds like they offer a more laid-back experience, so I want to see how Patpong / Thaniya suits me.


Can't help you with basic search techniques, but if you found Suk underwhelming, you sure aren't going to be happy with Patpong. I know that there are very few residents and long term mongers that go there absent another reason to be in that area. I haven't stepped foot in Patpong for years.

Now if you are Japanese, by all means go to Thaniya. If you are gay, you will be in Silom anyway.

Raj Patela
10-06-23, 00:03
Can't help you with basic search techniques, but if you found Suk underwhelming, you sure aren't going to be happy with Patpong. I know that there are very few residents and long term mongers that go there absent another reason to be in that area. I haven't stepped foot in Patpong for years.

Now if you are Japanese, by all means go to Thaniya. If you are gay, you will be in Silom anyway.Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.

I.

11Bravo
10-06-23, 11:07
Have they finally turned out the lights in Patpong? I know SOL (RIP) is history but how about Meet the World? Last report I could find was 10 months ago. Just wondering so I can set my expectations accordingly for a return later this year. Thanks.

GuyBrusg1957
10-06-23, 15:16
I want to share my quick trip report about the Black Caviar Executive Club. It was Thursday night, and I decided to visit the club after a light dinner at around 8 pm. I'm staying near Soi 11, a popular location, but the BTS Skytrain doesn't go anywhere near the club. I had to use Grab from my hotel. Surprisingly, the cab ride took nearly over half an hour due to the heavy traffic. However, when I left the club an hour later, the trip back only took ten minutes. The driver didn't seem to mind the destination, in the past some have declined.

Upon arrival, the club looked quite impressive, resembling upscale hotels, with a massive billboard outside displaying their clean but striking corporate branding. There was a decent-sized parking lot filled with several exotic cars.

Inside, the place was impeccably clean and could easily rival some of the more upscale casinos in Las Vegas. The layout was a bit confusing to me. The first floor, had a random assortment of seating and a bar, most of which were unoccupied. Bouncers in yellow sport coats, matching the club's theme, were scattered around. The real action was upstairs, where you ascend a grand staircase partially around a giant chandelier into another long room with a bar, partially separated seating for guest groups and another near the entrance for the talent.

Upstairs, I was greeted by one of the mamasans who introduced herself. I informed her that it was my first time at the club. She was super polite, offering me a brief tour. I decided to enjoy a drink and engaged in a quick conversation with her before finishing my drink. Going to back the talent, there were about 40 girls, everyone was attractive but there was definitely quite a bit of makeup and plastic. Looking at the price list, I could say most of the girls were around the $6-18 k. One in the front of the group had a light pink dress just barely holding up her nearly perfect fake tits with a special tag and was over $30 k. She was absolutely attractive, her tits were that good but I can't say she was worth that much to me. I went with someone in the back who held a softer smile in a sleek black dress who went by Jane.

Once I paid and got another drink it was off to the rooms which are right down the hallway. It's a bit darker themed but honestly similar to higher-end western hotels. Inside, there's no real view, not that you'd need one but it has a decent bed, spa, shower and working TV. There was a bit a language barrier but myself along with Jane had no issues using translation on our phones. She was a little nervous at first, so was I but after a bit that anxiety went a way but I could see how being a regular would help. Starting off we hit the shower, and filled up the tub. We had a serious problem with getting the temperature just right as it was always too hot or too cold. Either way, us playing around in the bath didn't last long and most of time was on the spent on the bed until the phone went off and our time was up.

Overall, it was a good experience but honestly it felt more "fancy" than better than other places not necessarily better. It was often better than anything you'd see in Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy but not always. I'll really wish you could talk to the girls more before going picking one but I'll probably go again in the coming months and check out a few other different high-end parlors like Emmanuele, Maria, etc. to see what those are like. I still haven't been to clubs like The Pimp either.

Nyezhov
10-06-23, 16:34
Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.

I.Wow. Thats better than it was 15 years ago (Thaniya excepted, some real talent down there if you enjoy the overpriced in house Japanese).


LOL, I'm neither Japanese nor gay.

I'm just searching for a more relaxed experience. In Sukhumvit, I often feel rushed. Pattaya, on the other hand, offers varied experiences from beer bars to gentleman clubs and it feels more spacious with a diverse range of options.

I get that Bangkok / Sukhumvit is a bustling city, but everything seems limited to a few lanes and similar offerings. The predominant gogos and nurus all feel the same. And places like Soi Cowboy, feels like you're done exploring in a flash. His description sounds like they offer a more laid-back experience, so I want to see how Patpong / Thaniya suits me.Enjoy. You have been warned. If I was traveling to BKK and had limited time, I wouldn't go there. Hell, I would go to Pattaya first.


Have they finally turned out the lights in Patpong? I know SOL (RIP) is history but how about Meet the World? Last report I could find was 10 months ago. Just wondering so I can set my expectations accordingly for a return later this year. Thanks.My Kid was in town in August and because I snore and smoke too much weed, she ditched me to go stay in Silom (plus I wasnt about to walk 20,000 steps a day with her in shopping malls).

She got bored one night and cruised around Silom / Patpong. She liked the gay places but didn't have a lot of good things to say about Patpong, given her observation of drunkls fighting with ladyboys and "dad do you go there, those girls are so old old and ugly". She's not a rookie either, she has probably 12 tips to BKK under her belt.

Raj Patela
10-07-23, 04:04
BTS Nana School Girl.

Now located at Nana Plaza area right in front of one of those Beer Bars. Her and the African s clog up for Traffic. Last night I came within 18 inches of her Face. Hahaha.

Jaim Bo
10-07-23, 09:45
Have they finally turned out the lights in Patpong? I know SOL (RIP) is history but how about Meet the World? Last report I could find was 10 months ago. Just wondering so I can set my expectations accordingly for a return later this year. Thanks.I was there slightly more recently, March 2023 and got a great BJ from Yaya. Like you I hope it's still there when I next vist BKK in January.

Banana Boi
10-07-23, 19:00
Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.
Did you think Black Pagoda was bad in 2016/7? One of the best gogo girl lineups I've ever seen. Was the big King's Castle bad in 2017/8 especially when they moved to their temporary location? Imo was the best gogo bar in BKK at the time. I'm a big Patpong guy but even I have stopped going now. I went after COVID and it was depressing. I think I posted photos on here. When the night market left it was game over for Patpong.

Patpong also had that amazing BBQ place. That was another reason to go to Patpong. It moved around 2018 to the other side of Lumpini Park.

Allover
10-07-23, 19:15
Patpong also had that amazing BBQ place. That was another reason to go to Patpong. It moved around 2018 to the other side of Lumpini Park.I still like to visit Patpong but will probably only go once per trip. It's always fun to walk down Thaniya even if only a few girls will look at you. Pink Panther had a good selection during my visit a few months ago. The bbq place you are referring to is probably Smokin Pug. They recently opened another location on Sukhumvit Soi 20. Good bbq food.

Raj Patela
10-08-23, 03:08
Last night Schoolgirl Happenings. As I walked past her she turned my way. OMG-. She is even uglier than I thought. LOL.

Funny part is she was Prettier than the Ethiopian standing a few Feet away.

I'm not laughing at you guys who like them. I know to each their own.

P.S. . If you actually watch close a lot of the Hotter non Lady's in the Plaza get barfined by Asians.

Newton York
10-09-23, 08:53
SIAM PARAGON! HOLY MOSES! I've been there! You've been there! We've all been there! It's incredible this happens in Bangkok. I thought shit like this only happens in the united states, cause we suck over here. Nothing bad ever happens in Bangkok. It's paradise. How? Why? This kind of thing is so common in america that most times it doesn't even get reported anymore unless there's at least 10 casualties. Bad things only happen where I used to be and where I currently am. Never where I'm not. Cause my life sucks, everybody else's is awesome. Cause where I am sucks, and everywhere else is awesome, or at least that's what I'm told over and over and over again by everyone my entire Goddamn life. I'm in denial fellas, cause Bangkok is too perfect for things like this, I'm just going to ignore this story and never think about it again. Cause Thailand is paradise. Plain and simple. I know I will be happy there and that's where I want to die. By God, Thailand will be the one to kill me, not the united states, I swear by the balls of Christ himself!

Why is it when I'm somewhere it sucks and when I'm not there anymore it's awesome? Decades ago I was stuck in south east Asia, and back then, I'll tell ya fellas, it was literal hell. It was actual war, ok? I kid you not. And back then the USA was prosperous, everybody was rich, and now that I'm stuck in the US it's expensive as hell to live, while South East Asia is dirt cheap, every idiot foreigner there drives a Benz and fucks hot chicks even if we look like Danny-freakin-Devito! Everyone in Asia is rich, prosperous, happy, and despite the higher standards of living these days, still very happy to treat Danny Devito-like white guys as Gods, hah! God, I hate my life. Good thing there's not much of it left. It's been decades of shit. Let me spell it out: ES, H, AI, TEE. Shit.

Man. Siam Paragon, sure brings back some memories. I remember I was there with an escort like 10 years ago now, the report might actually still be here in this forum, and probably in another review site that rhymes with 'the memotic preview' dot com. Yes, she was very hot, but not that great fuck wise. She taught me a most important lesson in that looks only go so far with chicks. What they should do is actually perform, and it's always a diamond in the rough when you find a super babe that also performs. Those I always give 10/10. Anyway, those were the days when I was stupid enough to want to spend time with these chicks like some kind of idiot boyfriend, sheesh. I did that in one of my earlier Prague trips too. Nowadays, forget that shit. Just fuck them'. That's what you're literally paying them for. Wining and dining them? What the hell for? You know you're going to bang them anyway, it's not like trying to date some chick. Jeez. Anyway, back then I figured I would try to kill 2 birds with one stone, cause I always wanted to visit the world famous aquarium in Bangkok's Siam Paragon. I even took photos of her there, but I can't be sure I even have them anymore. Yeah, not half bad memories, I wish I knew how to do Bangkok better back then, but now I freakin' do, live and learn. And yet when I have 'figured out' how to do Bangkok proper, I can't get back there! Ahhh. Go figure. Such is the shitstain that is my life.

So, no. No bad things have ever happened in Siam Paragon or in Bangkok in general. When you think of Siam Paragon, don't think of bloodshed from gun violence, just think of the aquarium, it's really nice. Remember fellas, Bangkok specifically and Thailand in general is paradise, it's perfect in it's own way, like the way Singapore is perfect, like the way Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland and New Zealand are perfect. Nothing bad ever happens in those countries, every person lucky enough to be living there are as happy as human beings can ever be. If you're from those countries and you somehow still have something to complain about then please take a long walk off a short pier. The places I used to live, where I live now, it's all crap. Talk about fate, luck, ain't no such thing as karma or God or any of that shit fellas. It's all meaningless. You're either born lucky or you're not. So if you've got breath in you left, go out there and just fuck. It's the only thing that really brings any real joy in life. Friends? Family? Kids? Are you fucking kiddin' me?

Newton York
10-09-23, 09:18
Glad to help you out:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?110-Quebec

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?385-Montreal

Of course, if everyone is like you, there might not be a lot of activity; but the threads ARE there, with Montreal seeming to have a steady flow of posts (of course NOT any from you). But hey, writing an FR does take time, which you seem to be short of. So with respect to BKK, no use wasting my time helping someone with so little time to spare.

Shout out to Bunky and Newton York, two CONTRIBUTING members. Funny how the people you would help never ask for any.
Not quite BOTG, but starting my intel collection by reading (SAY WHAT ?!?!?!) before a trip late this year.Looking forward to your reports 11 Bravo, it's awesome you get to go back later this year. Man, I wish I could go to Thailand again. Somehow I'm still employed and with this not so great job, and at my age, if they don't fire me soon, I might just have to quit anyway and then it's on the way to Thailand! I'm planning on sometime in 2024, but no rush. I'm trying to look at this with a silver linings outlook, if I can save up more cash, why not. Means I can stay longer and bang more chicks next time I'm in Thailand. We all know things change pretty fast in the Bangkok scene, so my experiences from a year ago are already outdated. If you've got time, I hope you'll visit and report on 'Butterfly Massage' and especially 'Bangkok Smile Massage' smilebangkak.com, they spell their website Bangkak instead of Bangkok, which ironically makes them even easier to find considering how many establishments in Bangkok have 'smile' in the name. Looking like there's some real good talent at that place, some of those girls I had good times with back when they were at Happy BKK. Man, I can't imagine how many new places and chicks there'd be by now in Bangkok. Have fun dude! I really miss all this, not even just the trips, but the weeks leading up to the trip, the anticipation, the excitement, the research on where you could go, what chicks you might bang. Man, if there's any reason to bother living life at all, this is it. Bangkok is it.

Newton York
10-09-23, 09:26
Pimp club, google allmighty says this is its site and location. Is this the right place?

https://www.pimpbangkok.com

Opposite PT Gas Station, 496 Rotchanamin Alley, Khwaeng Wang Thonglang, Wang Thonglang, Bangkok 10310, Thailand.That's the place, a bit over-rated if you ask me. Not saying it's a place for dudes with more cash then sense, but then again if you can afford it, why not? Hell, if I had the cash I'd fly business class all the time. You can almost guarantee a good time if you tip the mamasan well when you ask her which of the chicks will fuck, because not all of them will. And she'll be pricey when you do bang her. You'll have fun drinking with them if that's your thing, but for me, at my age, I just got to get to the fucking cause I could keel over at any time. I don't know about you other fellas, but I ain't got the time to wine and dine no more, and the more I think about it, the weirder it seems especially when you've already paid and agreed to the sex, so what's up with the date? I totally did Bangkok wrong years ago, and I more than made up for it last year, and I can only pray to the Sex Gods that I will be alive long enough to go back and fuck my way thru Bangkok one last time, some time soon.

Raj Patela
10-09-23, 10:07
Looking forward to your reports 11 Bravo, it's awesome you get to go back later this year. Man, I wish I could go to Thailand again. Somehow I'm still employed and with this not so great job, and at my age, if they don't fire me soon, I might just have to quit anyway and then it's on the way to Thailand! I'm planning on sometime in 2024, but no rush. I'm trying to look at this with a silver linings outlook, if I can save up more cash, why not. Means I can stay longer and bang more chicks next time I'm in Thailand. We all know things change pretty fast in the Bangkok scene, so my experiences from a year ago are already outdated. If you've got time, I hope you'll visit and report on 'Butterfly Massage' and especially 'Bangkok Smile Massage' smilebangkak.com, they spell their website Bangkak instead of Bangkok, which ironically makes them even easier to find considering how many establishments in Bangkok have 'smile' in the name. Looking like there's some real good talent at that place, some of those girls I had good times with back when they were at Happy BKK. Man, I can't imagine how many new places and chicks there'd be by now in Bangkok. Have fun dude! I really miss all this, not even just the trips, but the weeks leading up to the trip, the anticipation, the excitement, the research on where you could go, what chicks you might bang. Man, if there's any reason to bother living life at all, this is it. Bangkok is it.Chill. Things do not Change fast in Bangkok or anywhere in Thailand.

Other than BTS and Mrt expanded nothing changes.

Banana Boi
10-09-23, 16:25
The bbq place you are referring to is probably Smokin Pug. They recently opened another location on Sukhumvit Soi 20. Good bbq food.Thanks for that information! Much better location than Lumpini Park. I really recommend this place for any guy who likes a large portion of tender ribs. 1. 0 km from Soi Cowboy and 1. 3 km from Soi 24 Alley. I can see myself going after a nice afternoon massage. Damn it doesn't open til 5 pm.

LR123
10-09-23, 18:04
Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.

AggieDad1
10-09-23, 20:48
Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.Depends on you. I can't sleep on planes so I am always very tired when I arrive in Asia from the USA (not sure where you are coming from). I have learned the hard way to take it easy the first night. This is very true if you are taking any kind of sleeping medication. So I would choose the escort and then a good nights sleep.

PayForIt
10-09-23, 23:38
Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.

I.Totally disagree. See my recent report a few pages back. I much preferred Patpong to Suk / Cowboy / Nana. Thaniya is not just for Japanese. I am not. And I had a fabulous time there several nights running.

HorseTrader
10-10-23, 04:26
Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.I can't sleep that first night until I get laid. In February 2022 I was climbing the walls in my hotel while I waited for my 24-hour COVID test results. Smooci, FiwFans, ThaiFriendly, etc are not recommended because they can all turn into a can of worms. Your timing is perfect for walking along the odd side of Sukhumvit from Cowboy to Soi 5 (including Thermae) and then across Sukhumvit and down Soi 4. You are unlikely to find the hottest girl in town, but it will be near effortless to find something available with minimum effort. Be on the lookout for many overly friendly ladyboys.

ThaiGoodTimes
10-10-23, 07:08
Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.Skip Smoochi and FiwiFans your first night.

There will be more than plenty readily available in the bars near Nana BTS at midnight through 1 am.

Head down Soi 7, Soi 7 Alley, Soi 11, and even across the road to Soi 8.

On top of that the walk from Soi 7 to just past Soi 11 will be filled with freelancers at that time, just take care to weed out the LB's if that's not your thing.

EihTooms
10-10-23, 08:14
Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.Smooci might be a particularly tough option in Bangkok if you are into young girls who will at least provide a BBBJ+CIM for the money.

Having just checked the site, I see 11 escorts available, only one still in her 20's. Claims to be in her late 20's at that.

Filter out for those who list a simple CIM as a service they provide and it reduces that number to 6. All of them are in their 30's or 40's. Their rock bottom quotes for ST range from 4,500 baht to 10,000 baht.

Mind you, that is for, at best for anyone hoping to experience something at least close to Real Sex with a female, a simple BBBJ+CIM.

Being stuck in the previous decade, Smooci does not even offer a "CIM+SWALLOW" or a "FS, NO CONDOM Ok" box in their escorts' services provided list for those 4,500 baht, 8,000 baht and 10,000 baht ST elderly ladies to check.

By comparison, the Schoolgirl FL a couple of posters here seem to be obsessed by might start to look pretty good as an option when you arrive. First of all, she is fit, slim, has light skin, even features and is not nearly as ugly as the obsessed posters let on. She would definitely be a Super Star on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya and likely rank among the more popular choices on Soi 6 there as well. LOL. He'll, she can and does get placed as a Greeter / Door Girl or an onstage gogo dancer in Bangkok just about any time she wants a more structured work environment for a while.

And even if she only provides the same limited services those 11 Smooci ladies provide, it would probably cost far less overall.

MissionAsia
10-10-23, 17:24
Hi all,

I'm back in Bangkok and here's the damage.

1. Smooci.

Smooci, although always overpriced, is a convenience thing for me. (usually) hassle-free girls sent to your room. If you click, some are pretty happy to give you their LINE as well.

Anyways, I heard through the grapevine smooci didn't pay their police fines or something, so the site doesn't appear to be working currently. Nevermind. Out of my room I go!

2. WOW Massage. Zara.

I returned to WOW after a pretty good experience there last time. It's location walking distance from Asok, and it's themed rooms are really fun for me, and I like the general vibe of the place. I also like that you can choose ladies in a lineup.

-reception and girl.

In the past, WOW's issue was not enough girls, but they seem to be putting some effort into fixing that. I picked a girl I saw last time named Zara. 23 years old, which is a sweet spot in age for me.

Her face is beautifully stern, she could easily be a model at her namesake store. Tall svelte body with honey skin. Good English as well.

-massage.

I opted for the longer relaxing 120 m nuru massage, with a 500 THB discount for VIP room (Thai Room). Usually, you want a more buxom girl to do a nuru, because the body-to-body feels better, but something about Zara's long legs and smooth skin felt really divine on the mat. I love a good nuru it's often better than the sex for me LOL! As she was sliding all over me, hard to tell where she ended and I started, we 69'd each other and I came in her mouth.

-bath.

We talked and relaxed in the bath as I recovered before moving to the bed for a cursory massage.

-sex.

After we had so much time on the mat buildup, sex with Zara felt sensual and passionate. Typical spinner sex, with multiple positions and end in doggie.

3. Vodka. FiwFans.

FiwFans is super hit or miss. I'd say riskier than nana because picking a photoshopped girl sight unseen is a huge gamble.

-room and girl.

Vodka's room is a studio in a hotel at the top of Thonglor. I was her first customer of the day at 4 pm, she looked very tired and not too excited to see me. I think in general she's just a very quiet shy girl.

Her looks are pretty close to the profile photos, very skinny and young face. Black hair instead of blond, which I prefer anyway.

-Shower.

Vodka hopped in the shower with me and gave my cock a cursory washdown.

-Bed.

Started as usual with a decent massage. Better than you expect a young cute girl to be. Blowjob also not too bad, with some 69 as well.

Sex, cowgirl and doggie pretty good, but it was sort of up to me to make the effort.

-Overall.

Vodka was an extremely nice girl. I reserved 90 m 2 shots, but it was pretty obvious we wouldn't get the 2nd one, so she offered I pay the lesser amount.

Overall WIR? Probably not, but the experience wasn't bad. Just not mind-blowing.

Nyezhov
10-10-23, 17:47
By comparison, the Schoolgirl FL a couple of posters here seem to be obsessed by might start to look pretty good as an option when you arrive. First of all, she is fit, slim, has light skin, even features and is not nearly as ugly as the obsessed posters let on. She would definitely be a Super Star on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya and likely rank among the more popular choices on Soi 6 there as well. LOL. He'll, she can and does get placed as a Greeter / Door Girl or an onstage gogo dancer in Bangkok just about any time she wants a more structured work environment for a while.

And even if she only provides the same limited services those 11 Smooci ladies provide, it would probably cost far less overall.Oh dude you are a master but she is so wierd and ugly. You are correct though, rolling off a plane all crazed and rampant after dreaming for months and months even I might grab her after a doobie and a few 7-11 beers. Thank god I am not like that anymore.

I guess if she is what ya get in Pattaya these days, I'm glad I haven't gone in years and years.

Raj Patela
10-11-23, 00:28
Oh dude you are a master but she is so wierd and ugly. You are correct though, rolling off a plane all crazed and rampant after dreaming for months and months even I might grab her after a doobie and a few 7-11 beers. Thank god I am not like that anymore.

I guess if she is what ya get in Pattaya these days, I'm glad I haven't gone in years and years.Last night I strolled beach road Pattaya. School Girl would have been 2nd from the Bottom in terms of Hotness. OMG, there was an obese dark skin shortie trying her Luck.

On the bright side there were a few that were Attractive. I was surprised. Not that I'd pay my 500 baht though-. I'm scared of them. LOL.

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10-11-23, 05:38
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Tomasb
10-11-23, 14:51
Anyways, I heard through the grapevine smooci didn't pay their police fines or something, so the site doesn't appear to be working currently. Nevermind. Out of my room I go!

Yes, news reports in Bangkok Post and other media sources confirm that Smooci, at least for the time being, has been drummed out of business. It's unclear if this is due to not paying tea money or due to some other factors. I used it a few times when I did not feel like going out and dealing with the bars, bar fine, bad weather, etc. So it's a pity that they are no longer in business.

EihTooms
10-11-23, 17:52
Last night I strolled beach road Pattaya. School Girl would have been 2nd from the Bottom in terms of Hotness. OMG, there was an obese dark skin shortie trying her Luck.

On the bright side there were a few that were Attractive. I was surprised. Not that I'd pay my 500 baht though-. I'm scared of them. LOL.I spent 5 days and nights in Pattaya last month. A Thursday through a Tuesday. I cruised down Walking Street and along Beach Road almost every night, down Soi 6 only on the Saturday night. Being merely fit, slim and relatively well proportioned, the Bkk Schoolgirl FL's body would blow away 95% of the girls I saw on Beach Road on any day or night I was there. She would easily rank among the top 25% I saw that Saturday night on Soi 6. And it was packed.

The weird clothing and weird demeanor on interacting with her aside, I am just talking about basic body fitness and proportions. Add to which her skin is light and there is absolutely nothing standout "ugly" about her face. No giant chin, no bug eyes, no big nose, no monster scars or bizarre cosmetic surgery results. She has perfectly average, even facial features. I'm not touting her incomparable beauty or head turning Hotness. LOL. Although, I believe many punters, even experienced ones, might see her that way. I am just stating the facts about her physical appearance.

Now let's add another factor contributing to my assessment that she would be quite popular and busy on Beach Road or Soi 6 in Pattaya; the general customer demographic.

You think she would stand around for hours with nothing to do, no approaches, no offers and no takers in those two locations where the going rate is somewhere from 1,000 to 1,500 baht, room included? I don't.

You do realize she is actually not hurting for customers in Bangkok, right? That's why she can ignore most of the men who approach her without looking up from her smartphone screen, an observation I believe you made about her way back when if I remember correctly.

I have met her, have had a nodding, smiling and brief chatting acquaintance with her since before Covid. Seen her working as a Nana Plaza greeter just pre-Covid. Seen her working onstage, bottomless, in Crazy House. Seen her working as a door girl in various lower Sukhumvit bars. And I see her virtually every night I go out, many times with a customer. I see her engaged with, leaving with a customer or sitting with one in a restaurant in any 5 day period more than I saw girls on Beach Road engaged with and leaving with a customer in that 5 day period I was there last month.

Mind you, I did not say "that is what you get in Pattaya. " I only suggested she would be very popular and busy if she worked on Beach Road or Soi 6 in Pattaya, where there are tons of fat, squat, sloppy, ugly ladies for rent. There are also tons of fat, squat, sloppy, ugly ladies on Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok for rent. Sorry, but that Schoolgirl FL is not one of them.

Again, that is not an assessment of whatever weird demeanor a potential customer might or might not sense about her before he agrees to her terms and takes her. LOL. That is a different issue from her looks. And some punters might be intrigued by and attracted to that aspect of her while others are repelled by it.

Raj Patela
10-12-23, 01:48
https://www4.bestjavporn.com/video/wanz-101-decensored/

Possible our Nana Schoolgirl will turn into this one day.

How many Homely Schoolgirls turn into absolut Beauties later in life.

Allover
10-12-23, 17:17
The weird clothing and weird demeanor on interacting with her aside, I am just talking about basic body fitness and proportions. Add to which her skin is light and there is absolutely nothing standout "ugly" about her face. No giant chin, no bug eyes, no big nose, no monster scars or bizarre cosmetic surgery results. She has perfectly average, even facial features. I'm not touting her incomparable beauty or head turning Hotness. LOL.I believe I saw her during my trip in August. She was near the Nana BTS entrance near Soi 7. She was staring at her phone and I was walking quickly and didn't get a good look at her face. I did a search here to see her picture again but couldn't find it. But when I saw her I did not get the impression she was ugly or hideous. She seemed kind of average. I don't understand why she is singled out as ugly here. If I saw her pic again I might change my mind though.

Banana Boi
10-12-23, 23:03
Who is this girl you guys keep talking about? Anyone have a photo of her or can point her out on one of the daily YouTube walking videos?

As we all know guys all have different taste in women. Otherwise 98.25% of the girls I don't like in Thailand would be starving.

Sammon
10-13-23, 00:40
Had a nice two nights stay in Bangkok after Pattaya.

Not a lot of people. Did visit Soi Cowboy, watched girls. Did not barfine. Found a nice girl to stay with. Not going to share details.

Raj Patela
10-13-23, 01:45
All Points Bulletin.

I was Strolling to Soi 6 near Yellow Massage when I saw this Small Girl with Orange Hair. Upon closer examination it looked like Baitoey. Hahaha.

I could be wrong on this one Guys.

EihTooms
10-13-23, 04:10
Who is this girl you guys keep talking about? Anyone have a photo of her or can point her out on one of the daily YouTube walking videos?

As we all know guys all have different taste in women. Otherwise 98.25% of the girls I don't like in Thailand would be starving.LOL. I have not seen a clear, prolonged, full body and face photo or video of her. And I have never taken one of her. My guess is if she suspected someone was filming her she would turn away.

She can usually be seen on Sukhumvit between Soi 11 and Soi 3. But, as mentioned, she might as often be working as a doorgirl or greeter in a Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy area bar. Or dancing in a gogo bar in either venue. She has enough of an attractive look about her to be welcome by the owners and mamasans for such a placement in any case.

On the street or at a bar entrance, look for her to be wearing a very short scotch plaid skirt. Because her legs are good enough for her to get away with it.

Look for her to also wear a bare midriff top, revealing her stomach and mid section. Again, because with her body fitness level she can get away with it.

That is in contrast to the usual overdressed coverage for many female freelancers on Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok where the girl is generally trying to hide a roll or two of flab hanging over her waistband and a dress long enough to hide her fat, flabby ass and thick, thunder thighs.

Aside from the identifiable clothing, I submit that any punter reading this who wanders around that area trying to find her by looking for a particularly hideously ugly lady as seems to be the assessment of a couple of posters here will never guess she is that "Schoolgirl" freelancer they were slamming for her supposed ugliness. LOL.

Yes, I know the name she goes by. The name she told me 2-3 years ago, that is. Buy I am not inclined to post it since she has been the object of derision here so often, particularly about her physical appearance. Quite unfairly and unjustifiably so, imo.

EihTooms
10-13-23, 06:08
Speaking of photos, below are photos of the old Beergarden Soi 7 entrance that has now been converted to an expansion of those Soi 7 collection of bars apparently now known as 7 Center Point.

Taken yesterday. Depending on how far along the bar cubicles are behind those doors, I wouldn't be surprised if they were open for business in the next 2-3 weeks.

Then again, if any doable girls in the expansion bars are as resistant to getting barfined to have sex with customers as most of the doable girls are in the other bars in this venue, it would only be of interest to lonlihearts who buy Ladydrinks simply to have a drinking buddy.

SuperLove
10-13-23, 13:12
Hi Sammon, congrats on this gem. She is an easy 8 in my books. If I can ask what all did the she do and how much did you spend on her. And most importantly where did you find her. TF / smooci escorts bar or street pick up or inside a mall. Your reply helps us all bring our A game on the scene, not asking for her contacts. Cheers.


Had a nice two nights stay in Bangkok after Pattaya.

Not a lot of people. Did visit Soi Cowboy, watched girls. Did not barfine. Found a nice girl to stay with. Not going to share details.

HorseTrader
10-13-23, 16:22
Is the girl at 14:05 the one you describe? Her legs look thicker in this video than in reality, she also looks prettier in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ee5XzoPN6YBanana Boi and others: I believe this is the "school girl" that has been referenced. Personally, I think she looks good. But as ET points out, she is a flake.

Raj Patela
10-13-23, 17:00
LOL. I have not seen a clear, prolonged, full body and face photo or video of her. And I have never taken one of her. My guess is if she suspected someone was filming her she would turn away.

She can usually be seen on Sukhumvit between Soi 11 and Soi 3. But, as mentioned, she might as often be working as a doorgirl or greeter in a Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy area bar. Or dancing in a gogo bar in either venue. She has enough of an attractive look about her to be welcome by the owners and mamasans for such a placement in any case.

On the street or at a bar entrance, look for her to be wearing a very short scotch plaid skirt. Because her legs are good enough for her to get away with it.

Look for her to also wear a bare midriff top, revealing her stomach and mid section. Again, because with her body fitness level she can get away with it.

That is in contrast to the usual overdressed coverage for many female freelancers on Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok where the girl is generally trying to hide a roll or two of flab hanging over her waistband and a dress long enough to hide her fat, flabby ass and thick, thunder thighs.

Aside from the identifiable clothing, I submit that any punter reading this who wanders around that area trying to find her by looking for a particularly hideously ugly lady as seems to be the assessment of a couple of posters here will never guess she is that "Schoolgirl" freelancer they were slamming for her supposed ugliness. LOL.

Yes, I know the name she goes by. The name she told me 2-3 years ago, that is. Buy I am not inclined to post it since she has been the object of derision here so often, particularly about her physical appearance. Quite unfairly and unjustifiably so, imo.Her Hotness is Zerro on a Zerro to 5 scale.

I'm calling Rooms on being Sarcastic.

Banana Boi
10-13-23, 17:26
Banana Boi and others: I believe this is the "school girl" that has been referenced. Personally, I think she looks good. But as ET points out, she is a flake.Oh this girl. Average Thai girl. Big thighs and calves. I wouldn't make fun of her but I also wouldn't be picking her up. Why when there are so much better down the street in Thermae?

ET, comparing BKK girls to those things you see on Beach Road in Pattaya imo gives the wrong impression of what Pattaya has to offer. Those are bottom of the barrel in Pattaya. They're like the hookers that work Lumpini Park. They're for cheap guys who don't care more than the girl has a hole or 3. Everyone knows if a Farang wants half decent girls in Pattaya you have to go inside the top gogo bars. Don't judge by YouTube videos on what you see outside. Otherwise they need to be persistent like me and keep going to real G clubs on a weekly basis. Soi 6 is a crap shoot too again suited for guys on a budget but if you go 7 days in a row when the soi isn't busy you will find a girl.

Allover
10-13-23, 17:45
Banana Boi and others: I believe this is the "school girl" that has been referenced. Personally, I think she looks good. But as ET points out, she is a flake.Thanks HorseTrader. I'm sure that is the girl and I did see her at that same spot in August. I think she is decent looking and certainly not worthy of discussion about her being ugly.

Lcale1982
10-13-23, 18:34
They're like the hookers that work Lumpini Park. They're for cheap guys who don't care more than the girl has a hole or 3. Oh I wasn't sure if Lumpini Park FL was still a thing. My friends Thai GF told us about it so we went to check out it around 10 pm but maybe was in the wrong area and didn't see anyone. Sounds like I probably wouldn't pick anyone up since I do frequent Thermae but guess I'll check it out again my next try just to browse.

EihTooms
10-13-23, 19:53
Oh this girl. Average Thai girl. Big thighs and calves. I wouldn't make fun of her but I also wouldn't be picking her up. Why when there are so much better down the street in Thermae?

ET, comparing BKK girls to those things you see on Beach Road in Pattaya imo gives the wrong impression of what Pattaya has to offer. Those are bottom of the barrel in Pattaya. They're like the hookers that work Lumpini Park. They're for cheap guys who don't care more than the girl has a hole or 3. Everyone knows if a Farang wants half decent girls in Pattaya you have to go inside the top gogo bars. Don't judge by YouTube videos on what you see outside. Otherwise they need to be persistent like me and keep going to real G clubs on a weekly basis. Soi 6 is a crap shoot too again suited for guys on a budget but if you go 7 days in a row when the soi isn't busy you will find a girl.BB, my assessment and original comment was that the Bangkok street girl in question would do well on Beach Road and Soi 6 in Pattaya because her looks were at least above average for those particular locations. Which I think you essentially just agreed with me about, although you only cited Beach Road and not Soi 6. It was another poster who incorrectly concluded that I was suggesting that she "is what you get in Pattaya. " But that isn't what I said.

I concede that there are many girls in better shape and with cuter faces on Soi 6 in Pattaya. But not a majority of them by a long shot. I agree with Horse Trader that her legs look better and she looks better in person than in that one brief video clip of her just standing in an unflattering position.

I would also submit that an "average" Thai girl of "average" weight, height and looks would rank among the top 25% of the girls one finds on Soi 6 in Pattaya. So if she is "average" by your or my judgement, well. I stand by what I said about her regarding Soi 6.

And, sure, same as Raj Patela, I too even saw occasional clusters of surprisingly attractive freelancers standing on Beach Road in Pattaya last month.

In the dark.

From a distance.

However, when I got within 4-5 meters of them, almost to a person they turned out to be Ladyboys.

So, again. I stand by what I said about the Bangkok street girl, a natural born female, compared to the natural born females on Beach Road, not the Ladyboys on Beach Road.

Member #4788
10-13-23, 23:30
Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.

Nyezhov
10-14-23, 00:31
Oh I wasn't sure if Lumpini Park FL was still a thing. My friends Thai GF told us about it so we went to check out it around 10 pm but maybe was in the wrong area and didn't see anyone. Sounds like I probably wouldn't pick anyone up since I do frequent Thermae but guess I'll check it out again my next try just to browse.I haven't seen a Lumpini Park hooker in years.

I have to go over there for some Polo Fried Chicken.

Raj Patela
10-14-23, 01:11
MSKAT is Gorgeous then. Please chime in. She isn't a Bargirl but she knows THEM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RZftRvzi8

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

P.S. MSKAT does Balloons. Nitrous Oxide.

Raj Patela
10-14-23, 01:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=****7wIuRGw

Please rate the 3 girls at 2:00.

No Shame if you get the answers WRONG.

Lecherous86
10-14-23, 14:24
Do we have any other alternative app? Hope they get back soon.


Anyways, I heard through the grapevine smooci didn't pay their police fines or something, so the site doesn't appear to be working currently. Nevermind. Out of my room I go!

Yes, news reports in Bangkok Post and other media sources confirm that Smooci, at least for the time being, has been drummed out of business. It's unclear if this is due to not paying tea money or due to some other factors. I used it a few times when I did not feel like going out and dealing with the bars, bar fine, bad weather, etc. So it's a pity that they are no longer in business.

Lcale1982
10-14-23, 16:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=****7wIuRGw

Please rate the 3 girls at 2:00.

No Shame if you get the answers WRONG.Think the link got censored, it doesn't work when I click it.

Simian
10-14-23, 21:58
This is Thailand and there will always be things going on that mystify non-Thais. That said, whenever I am somewhere and the local providers are not even demonstrating the smallest of interest, it may be because I don't fit the profile. I have heart that Thermae is more a Japanese hunting ground these days and so at least some of the young girls will be hoping for the one big spender Japanese guy who will pay twice or three times what a falang will pay. Just a thought. You can find better hunting elsewhere. . . . .


I was there last spring I stayed in the Ruamchitt hotel above. There are a lot of young, attractive ladies there in the basement bar area some weren't very friendly. Mostly the older ladies were the friendliest. The bar require the men buy a drink upon entering; one of the ladies said they have to pay 50 baht to enter. Then there's women just outside-some attractive-that would hustle very aggressively for a date. I took a couple of the older ones from the bar to my room I think they charged like 1000-1500 baht or so. One night I stayed until 2 am closing it seemed most of the ladies left alone. The whole scene didn't make a lot of sense to me; what's the purpose of the ladies going there if they don't leave with a date? There's plenty of men walking around browsing. Seems like it would be a waste of time for the ladies to spend time there and then leave alone.

Nyezhov
10-14-23, 23:25
Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.You are kidding, right? Those are humourous questions, right? I love number 3, would you like it laid out a), b), C) with subsections or is stream of consiouusness OK?

Member #4788
10-15-23, 00:44
You are kidding, right? Those are humourous questions, right? I love number 3, would you like it laid out a), b), C) with subsections or is stream of consiouusness OK?Hey Bud, its really nice that you took the time to respond in such a manner. But to respond to this, YES, yes I am looking for someone to help me out. Just like IF YOU were down in San Diego and wanted to go to Tijuana, ID be like "what's gucci homie, ill show you the ropes". Its the west coast kinda vibes we got. Obviously you're lacking that and we don't have to interact.

SO Anyways, IF SOMEONE ELSE would be a fucking homie and connect with me, ID appreciate it! Like I said, I am looking for help around understanding it. Likewise if you need advice on anywhere I've been, I'm more than happy to help guide you in Latin America.

Sammon
10-15-23, 00:57
Hi Sammon, congrats on this gem. She is an easy 8 in my books. If I can ask what all did the she do and how much did you spend on her. And most importantly where did you find her. TF / smooci escorts bar or street pick up or inside a mall. Your reply helps us all bring our A game on the scene, not asking for her contacts. Cheers.I met her at the mall nearest to 24 street, sukumvit train station. Forget the name of the mall. Interestingly I was looking for a nice McDonald's meal after being tired of eating delicious Thai meals. It is so funny once in a while I crave McDonald's to remind me of my home while traveling. This gir was behind me in the line. I turned around and smiled at her and said you can go ahead. She spoke fairly good English. I paid for meals and we ate together. Not knowing who she is I asked her if she would have dinner with me. She asked me what hotel I am staying at. She came to the hotel and was very impressed by the corner room with a wide view I got. We started getting intimate right away and no objections. Went to dinner and back to hotel. Very pleasant and nice smelling girl. Ended up staying two nights. I put $300 in her purse in dollar bills. It was worth it. We talked about taking a vacation together on my next trip. Do not know how old she but looks to be late 20 s. All I have is her line contact but not much info about her, her job, her life. Nice friendly company like most Thai girls are. Did not want to probe into her life. Sex was with condom. Small boobs though.

Raj Patela
10-15-23, 01:28
I was there last spring I stayed in the Ruamchitt hotel above. There are a lot of young, attractive ladies there in the basement bar area some weren't very friendly. Mostly the older ladies were the friendliest. The bar require the men buy a drink upon entering; one of the ladies said they have to pay 50 baht to enter. Then there's women just outside-some attractive-that would hustle very aggressively for a date. I took a couple of the older ones from the bar to my room I think they charged like 1000-1500 baht or so. One night I stayed until 2 am closing it seemed most of the ladies left alone. The whole scene didn't make a lot of sense to me; what's the purpose of the ladies going there if they don't leave with a date? There's plenty of men walking around browsing. Seems like it would be a waste of time for the ladies to spend time there and then leave alone.Nice insight. Something I refuse to investigate on my own.

I've always wondered if there was a Rush to barfine the 3's and 4's at the end of the night.

We're the Nana Rainbow girls who get No action during prime time Scooped up at Closing.

They just as unattractive at 2 am as they are at 9 pm. LOL.

On the few night I'm at Nana at midnight, deu to late plane arrival, I see only Muglies, Fuglies, Zuglies left on Stage.

Stykler
10-15-23, 04:54
You are kidding, right? Those are humourous questions, right? I love number 3, would you like it laid out a), b), C) with subsections or is stream of consiouusness OK?AND he's managed to ask all of those questions after only two posts. Unbelievable.

Jacky22
10-15-23, 06:26
Dear friends.

I am in Bangkok on 18th and 19th of October. Living in Shukumvit area.

Can you please suggest.

1) a very good massage parlour for good body to body massage in this Shukumvit area?

2) I am really looking for a European or Russian girl for a bang. Thai is easily available in India. Can you please suggest where to go for pick up or order? Is grace or Rajah hotel still in business for these? How much you pay?

Thank you for your help.

Jackey.

Nyezhov
10-15-23, 14:38
Hey Bud, its really nice that you took the time to respond in such a manner. But to respond to this, YES, yes I am looking for someone to help me out. Just like IF YOU were down in San Diego and wanted to go to Tijuana, ID be like "what's gucci homie, ill show you the ropes". Its the west coast kinda vibes we got. Obviously you're lacking that and we don't have to interact.

SO Anyways, IF SOMEONE ELSE would be a fucking homie and connect with me, ID appreciate it! Like I said, I am looking for help around understanding it. Likewise if you need advice on anywhere I've been, I'm more than happy to help guide you in Latin America.If I was going to Tijuana (again) I would just go to the appropriate forum, read back for a year or two, use the search button, and then I wouldn't need to ask general questions.

But that's just me.

I hate to repeat myself because I sound like an ass kiss, but in terms of traveling and mongering in SE Asia, these Forum guys here are maintaining the Wikpedia Of Thai Mongering right here. Bet every one of your questions has been asked and answered in the past few months.

If you were looking for something obscure, like where the escalators are on Suk so you can cross from one side to the other, there is a Search button.

Nyezhov
10-15-23, 14:51
Nice insight. Something I refuse to investigate on my own.

I've always wondered if there was a Rush to barfine the 3's and 4's at the end of the night.

We're the Nana Rainbow girls who get No action during prime time Scooped up at Closing.

They just as unattractive at 2 am as they are at 9 pm. LOL.

On the few night I'm at Nana at midnight, deu to late plane arrival, I see only Muglies, Fuglies, Zuglies left on Stage.I'm down there once a month for closing time, and yes, the hotties are usually scooped up by closing. On the other hand, pay attention closely and you will see the dancers around in their civvy garb looking for one last.

I like Thermae area around closing.


Dear friends.

I am in Bangkok on 18th and 19th of October. Living in Shukumvit area.

Can you please suggest.

1) a very good massage parlour for good body to body massage in this Shukumvit area?

2) I am really looking for a European or Russian girl for a bang. Thai is easily available in India. Can you please suggest where to go for pick up or order? Is grace or Rajah hotel still in business for these? How much you pay?.Grace Hotel is open. Rajah is gone I think, I haven't paid much attention when I am down there. The rest of your questions are answered a few pages back. If you want to know pricing, check the escort sites. You should consider going to Phuket.


AND he's managed to ask all of those questions after only two posts. Unbelievable.I think what makes me cranky is the fact that I have been on this Forum for years and years and 99% of the stuff folks ask is asked and answered. Search button. Although its tough to search out the answer to "Hi, I'm coming to Bangkok for the first time, where can I find a hot babe."

Geez dudes, have some self respect.

Member #4788
10-15-23, 15:00
AND he's managed to ask all of those questions after only two posts. Unbelievable.Not actually true. I made 4 reports, my last account was having issues. Admin made me another account. I was just seeing that only 1 post mad it and it was a post asking for help. So you are right, but I will be fixing this shortly.

Banana Boi
10-15-23, 15:34
MSKAT is Gorgeous then. Please chime in. She isn't a Bargirl but she knows THEM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RZftRvzi8Explorer was right! My Thai girl lied cause clearly from the video her HAMSTER is still alive!


I too even saw occasional clusters of surprisingly attractive freelancers standing on Beach Road in Pattaya last month.

In the dark.

From a distance.

However, when I got within 4-5 meters of them, almost to a person they turned out to be Ladyboys.Always the case on BR. I still don't understand why guys who like girls spend their time suffering through Beach Road instead of being with decent girls in a top gogo bar. To each their own I guess.

Gannaton48
10-15-23, 18:35
LOng time I haven't been in BKK. I was a fan of the Biergarten in Soi 7, with quite many very nice and still good-looking ladies, mostly kind, with good service and no hustle; It seems to me that it must have disappeared. ANy info if it still exists or moved to another place? Thanks!

TKOman
10-15-23, 23:21
Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and enjoy life for a few months.Sure, I am happy to help. I'm a fellow west coaster so.

Your questions:

1. Holiday GF.

-try Thai Friendly pre-trip (be upfront with girls about your intentions) and Thermae once you arrive to scope out girls in person. Note that the holiday GF can turn into a holiday nightmare halfway through the trip, and regardless, you will never be able to leave her in your room with your wallet / passport unattended without worrying.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price.

-I recommend an Airbnb in the Asoke area; there are lots of nice units with no nosy front staff in this price range. If room and maid service are required, there will be hotels in the same area (be sure to check if they are "guest friendly" first); just don't pay less than $50 or the room will be dismal.

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, Sukhumvit, any others?

Oh boy! I can only do so much. Here's a sampling of my own thoughts:

-massage: most places with girls sitting outside and rates of about 300-400 be per hour will offer a HJ and maybe BJ for extra near the end of the massage; try the shops on Sukhumvit Soi 23, Soi 22 or the stretch between Nana and Asoke.

-gogo and strip: not my thing, sorry.

-BJ bars: Lolitas, Kaasalong, Duangporn's Haven and Wood for a grimy room and a willing girl to get on her knees and take it in her mouth when the time comes (800 B), and Seven Heaven for a more upscale CIM experience with a prettier girl ( 1400 B). You can also try to negotiate at a place that usually offers FS, such as the places on Soi 24/1. Lastly you could always go to a bar like Toy or Afterskool in Soi Cowboy for a BJ in full view of everyone (prices vary depending on how many scams and bait switches they pull).

-Thermae (and the street outside): is a pretty good bet if you are seeking GFE with FS. You are likely to find an office girl in a pretty dress; be sure to negotiate your full expectations before you depart for your place. Some girls there are looking for Japanese or younger guys only, so watch for a girl who is smiling at you.

4. Places to visit.

-too many to mention! Just one tip: instead of visiting an elephant show (AKA "prison" where they force the animals to perform stupid tricks for you), go to an elephant sanctuary where they rescue these amazing creatures, and you get to learn about them, feed them and ultimately help them stay away from the horrors of captive performance or worse, street performance!

5. Anything else you can add please do.

-test yourself before and after your trip.

-wash and pee after each encounter.

-remember that you can easily get PrEP in Bangkok (e. G. Pulse Clinic)!

Newton York
10-16-23, 00:06
Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.Dude, I think if you have the time and funds to enjoy life in Thailand for 45 days, I think you should go in without too much preamble. It'll be like the way most of us explored Thailand back in the day before the internet and all that. The excitement, the adventures you'd be on, you'll never know what's around the corner. Frodo, it's something nuts when you step out the door, you'll never know where you'll end up, said Bilbo, something like that. I'd say use the usual amount of common sense when traveling, maybe don't bother too much with escorts, Thailand ain't Montreal after all. Do those things them young people do at the backpacker areas, with all that time, you never know who you'd meet, you might end up teaching English there and staying permanent. If you go in with too much research and way too much planned, it'll be less of a sex vacation trip and more kinda work again. Go with the flow, maybe stick with the oilies, if you're on a budget, maybe skip the soapies, and then nowadays with how much more pricey bar girls are, go to nana and cowboy for the atmosphere and drinks, and only once in a while pick a chick back. But if you've got game, and since you've got time, you're better off aiming for civilian chicks. Remember, Asia in general, the chicks will worship the ground you walk on just cause you're a white guy, even if you look like Danny-freakin-Devito. Make the most of your 45 days man, you're luckier than most of us. Man, it ain't so much I wish I was dead, it's more that I wish I was never born.

Newton York
10-16-23, 00:18
Dear friends.

I am in Bangkok on 18th and 19th of October. Living in Shukumvit area.

Can you please suggest.

1) a very good massage parlour for good body to body massage in this Shukumvit area?

2) I am really looking for a European or Russian girl for a bang. Thai is easily available in India. Can you please suggest where to go for pick up or order? Is grace or Rajah hotel still in business for these? How much you pay?

Thank you for your help.

Jackey.I personally don't think it's easy to find white chicks in Bangkok, it was easier back in the day, but nowadays it's pricey and for what you might get, maybe not the best product. We get older, but the chicks should stay the same age. I mean, Prague is still the best bet if you're aiming for white chicks. Sure, you can find them kazakh types in clubs in Bangkok, but you can find them too in them fancy big cities in the emirates, qatar, etc. If you're in Thailand, eat Thai, buy Thai, and of course fuck Thai. It'd be like going to Vienna to look for Thai chicks, sure you'd find some, but not at the quality and accessibility you'd find in Thailand. You sound like a fella with money burning a hole in your pocket, if you be really fancying some blonde vagina, I'd say go to Prague. But if you must, white escorts are available in Bangkok, but oh boy, they cost a pretty penny. And there's always the russian chicks in them gogobars of Pattaya. A lot of them look pretty damn good, but I can't certify to their quality in bed though. Believe you me, them white chicks, when they're in South East Asia, be it civilian or working girls, they know they exist at a premium, you sure you want to pay that premium? You're getting the short end of the stick. But if you go to Frankfurt, or Vienna, etc. They be just another white chick and you'd have your pick of the lot, and there be a lot.

Banana Boi
10-16-23, 00:25
1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.This is the dream of many guys who come to Thailand for the first time but from seeing many friends come to Thailand for the first time it's best not to commit to anything. Since you have 45 days your best bet is to go to Bangkok or Pattaya first and meet a girl you think looks good and you get along with. Give it the first week to meet a girl and take her out of the bar and go around the city for an entire day and overnight. That way you get a feel on how a trip elsewhere will go. Then go on a short 2 or 3 day trip somewhere first. If you like her keep her. If not, find another girl. This way you really haven't committed much time before you move on.

Having said all this my opinion is the usual go with the flow attitude. Don't go searching for this stuff and don't force it. Just enjoy your time in Thailand. Too many girls to commit to one.

Nyezhov
10-16-23, 01:20
This is the dream of many guys who come to Thailand for the first time but from seeing many friends come to Thailand for the first time it's best not to commit to anything. Since you have 45 days your best bet is to go to Bangkok or Pattaya first and meet a girl you think looks good and you get along with. Give it the first week to meet a girl and take her out of the bar and go around the city for an entire day and overnight. That way you get a feel on how a trip elsewhere will go. Then go on a short 2 or 3 day trip somewhere first. If you like her keep her. If not, find another girl. This way you really haven't committed much time before you move on.

Having said all this my opinion is the usual go with the flow attitude. Don't go searching for this stuff and don't force it. Just enjoy your time in Thailand. Too many girls to commit to one.If you are young and in shape you should be doing two-three different ones a day. Why go all the way over there for your first or second trip and not hump everyone you can find.

Member #4788
10-16-23, 02:06
Dude, I think if you have the time and funds to enjoy life in Thailand for 45 days, I think you should go in without too much preamble. It'll be like the way most of us explored Thailand back in the day before the internet and all that. The excitement, the adventures you'd be on, you'll never know what's around the corner. Frodo, it's something nuts when you step out the door, you'll never know where you'll end up, said Bilbo, something like that. I'd say use the usual amount of common sense when traveling, maybe don't bother too much with escorts, Thailand ain't Montreal after all. Do those things them young people do at the backpacker areas, with all that time, you never know who you'd meet, you might end up teaching English there and staying permanent. If you go in with too much research and way too much planned, it'll be less of a sex vacation trip and more kinda work again. Go with the flow, maybe stick with the oilies, if you're on a budget, maybe skip the soapies, and then nowadays with how much more pricey bar girls are, go to nana and cowboy for the atmosphere and drinks, and only once in a while pick a chick back. But if you've got game, and since you've got time, you're better off aiming for civilian chicks. Remember, Asia in general, the chicks will worship the ground you walk on just cause you're a white guy, even if you look like Danny-freakin-Devito. Make the most of your 45 days man, you're luckier than most of us. Man, it ain't so much I wish I was dead, it's more that I wish I was never born.I first want to say to Newton and Banana Boi, I hella appreciate you guys chiming in. I think you are both right, I need to adventure like a FOB. I have the experience and knowledge of Latin America. I guess I'm just a little excited since I've been planning this for YEARS. Ill definitely keep that in mind about the GF situation. That's my goal, so ill keep that in mind Banana.

Thanks guys. Will be posting more in Latina America threads.

Pk099
10-16-23, 06:47
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Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.

Redshelf
10-16-23, 12:08
Hi guys I would like to share my experience with Sukhumvit Nurus. As I get older I figure "why not", and want to go for more and more extreme situations. For me, that is materializing in having multiple young ladies at the same time, ideally whose ages add up to mine (40's = 2 ladies.

60's = 3 ladies, 80's = 4, and so on).

Strip clubs, smooci, etc.

In the past I have met mixed success doing this at strip clubs. Ideally, making intentions known early in the night and finding girls who are friends works, but it takes time, effort, and some liquid courage, and even then once you get to the room, the service is often a bit playfully awkward, with the ladies alternating rather than both really going at it at the same time.

Therefore, my current modus operandi is sukhimvit Nurus, where if you're lucky, you get two ladies that work in tandem like the ravenois angels in JAV, eagerly sucking and slurping and grinding you like their lives depend on it.

Here are some places I've done this in, but if anyone has a suggestion on how to get a perfect threesome, please let me know.

Soap.

Soap in a word is Japanese. Soap is the previous mitu owner I think. It has more asian feel in terms of presentation of ladies, and a service mindset in the lobby / LINE.

I've had really good and really average service at SOAP. , but when it's good (their "P" - tier girls), you'll find yourself with your feet behind your head and two young gelled ladies gobbling your rod and ass like it's their last meal on earth. The only thing confusing is their pricing system.

Recommended ladies: kaede for PSE.

Kokoro massage.

I think the easiest way to describe kokoro is fun. Fun rooms, fun costumes, fun ladies. Sure the ladies aren't the youngest (they definitely don't fit easily into my math featured above,) but many of them make of up with energy and skill. Sex with these girls can be raucous and fun, and although it can be very PSE, it also feels more like "real, passionate" sex than other mongering methods imo. Similar experience to mitu with slightly better rooms.

Recommended ladies: Jessica for that "farang look", nene or demi for their energy and skill.

Wow massage.

WOW in a word is thai. They have this hilarious and arousing comic book art on their staircase, very Thai rooms, and nice young girls. Wow is almost certainly the same owner as Kokoro since I see many of the same girls at both shops. The ladies are much younger, more beautiful, but also more reserved here, but they'll still work together nicely. Rimming and DFK is less common, but I think it depends on the girl.

I think ideally you pick one crazy / experienced girl and one or two beautiful girls and hope the crazy one can teach her a few things! Last time I went with Mona, Zara, and Jessica.

Wow massages rooms are like kokoros turned up to 10. I'll go with boxing or jungle room. There's really nothing like having four long stockinged legs and hands sliding all over you to make you feel like a king.

Recommended ladies: Zara for her Sensual beauty, Jenny for your college fantasy, Jessica for her skill. (or any other kokoro lady you can request I think?

Daisy dream.

Threesomess are easy and fun in daisy dream. The rooms are very chiq, the ladies willing, but the beauty standard is a bit lower, similar to kokoro, depending on preference.

Still, I've had some great service in their nice rooms and baths, so ymmv. Without the mat play and rimming, It's just not JAV lascivious lady levels of PSE. But still a good threesome.

If you pick the right girls.

Recommended ladies: May for her energy and great tits.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Nyezhov
10-16-23, 14:44
This is the dream of many guys who come to Thailand for the first time but from seeing many friends come to Thailand for the first time it's best not to commit to anything. Since you have 45 days your best bet is to go to Bangkok or Pattaya first and meet a girl you think looks good and you get along with. Give it the first week to meet a girl and take her out of the bar and go around the city for an entire day and overnight. That way you get a feel on how a trip elsewhere will go. Then go on a short 2 or 3 day trip somewhere first. If you like her keep her. If not, find another girl. This way you really haven't committed much time before you move on.

Having said all this my opinion is the usual go with the flow attitude. Don't go searching for this stuff and don't force it. Just enjoy your time in Thailand. Too many girls to commit to one.A young man on his first trip should be smashing three different girls a day, every day.

Etaoin2003
10-16-23, 16:04
LOng time I haven't been in BKK. I was a fan of the Biergarten in Soi 7, with quite many very nice and still good-looking ladies, mostly kind, with good service and no hustle; It seems to me that it must have disappeared. ANy info if it still exists or moved to another place? Thanks!It's been gutted, the front has been opened up, it appears to be intended as an extension of the neon monstrosity next door. Search "Beergarden" (spelled that way) for photos.

Banana Boi
10-16-23, 18:08
If you are young and in shape you should be doing two-three different ones a day. Why go all the way over there for your first or second trip and not hump everyone you can find.You know that and I know that but so many if not all new guys fantasize about having a Thai GF for a week or go on a trip with one. Ask anyone who has gone away with a Thai girl. It's waste of time and money.

Out of 100's of guys I know in Thailand Explorer is the only guy who lives here and goes on trips with Thai girls consistently.

Nyezhov
10-16-23, 18:37
You know that and I know that but so many if not all new guys fantasize about having a Thai GF for a week or go on a trip with one. Ask anyone who has gone away with a Thai girl. It's waste of time and money.

Out of 100's of guys I know in Thailand Explorer is the only guy who lives here and goes on trips with Thai girls consistently.When I was in my 40's I had a normal Thai GF. Meh. Its like having any other girlfriend except she's Thai. Double the BS and double the hassle trying to figure it out. Not that I didn't butterfly around mind you when she was working or upcountry, etc.

I'm waaay too old. I want tight, young and slinky. Not speaking English is even better. My life is too good to have a woman ruining it. I am a nice guy, I pay them well to leave me fast.

MachchiBaba
10-16-23, 19:51
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Also you can join our telegram channel where our team will be available 24/7 for you to answer any of your questions (of course for FREE).

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HorseTrader
10-16-23, 20:09
You know that and I know that but so many if not all new guys fantasize about having a Thai GF for a week or go on a trip with one. Ask anyone who has gone away with a Thai girl. It's waste of time and money.I've done it successfully, but mostly with Thai girls who I got to know quite well via pre-travel Line video chats. Those were successful trips (or semi-successful) ranging from several days to more than a month. One girl was so successful on the first trip that I tried to repeat 4 months later, but that second trip was a miserable failure. Another girl was successful for a month and also successful the following year for 5 days.

I would recommend against traveling with a bar girl.

MachchiBaba
10-16-23, 20:15
My trip is booked in two weeks, but I am yet to book a Hotel. I am astonished at the current prices on Expedia and Priceline. Thus far, I have always been lucky to find an affordable deal on any of those three 5 Stars (four if you count Center Point) between Nana & Asok. The Junior Suite in Hyatt Regency is currently going for $410 a night, that is $3 k a week, that is insane. I suppose demand is likely driving all this (On one hand uncle Powell wants to bring down inflation, the hot-hot economy, and contrarily in Bangkok it seems economy is going up and up fueled by the west. It is believed uncle Powell is done raising rates and now higher for longer will cut down on disposable spendings or better yet loose some jobs. But Bangkok tells a different story on the macro. Some one should send him the Bangkok Hotel prices chart for the last one year, it looks pretty steep to me. He might use it to increase another percent point this November. LOL.

Tomasb
10-16-23, 21:16
Though not mentioned by the poster, the Google location of all three of these establishments can be found on Soi 23. Kokoro has 2022 prices pictured on their site — for the Nuru it's 7500 for two lassies at 90 minutes. Not cheap but based on his description it sure sounds fun!

Thanks for the detailed description and specific recommendations. I am arriving for the winter and will be saving my pennies for these places.


Hi guys I would like to share my experience with Sukhumvit Nurus. As I get older I figure "why not", and want to go for more and more extreme situations. For me, that is materializing in having multiple young ladies at the same time, ideally whose ages add up to mine (40's = 2 ladies.

60's = 3 ladies, 80's = 4, and so on).

Strip clubs, smooci, etc.

In the past I have met mixed success doing this at strip clubs. Ideally, making intentions known early in the night and finding girls who are friends works, but it takes time, effort, and some liquid courage, and even then once you get to the room, the service is often a bit playfully awkward, with the ladies alternating rather than both really going at it at the same time.

Therefore, my current modus operandi is sukhimvit Nurus, where if you're lucky, you get two ladies that work in tandem like the ravenois angels in JAV, eagerly sucking and slurping and grinding you like their lives depend on it.

Here are some places I've done this in, but if anyone has a suggestion on how to get a perfect threesome, please let me know.

Soap.

Soap in a word is Japanese. Soap is the previous mitu owner I think. It has more asian feel in terms of presentation of ladies, and a service mindset in the lobby / LINE.

I've had really good and really average service at SOAP. , but when it's good (their "P" - tier girls), you'll find yourself with your feet behind your head and two young gelled ladies gobbling your rod and ass like it's their last meal on earth. The only thing confusing is their pricing system.

Recommended ladies: kaede for PSE.

Kokoro massage.

I think the easiest way to describe kokoro is fun. Fun rooms, fun costumes, fun ladies. Sure the ladies aren't the youngest (they definitely don't fit easily into my math featured above,) but many of them make of up with energy and skill. Sex with these girls can be raucous and fun, and although it can be very PSE, it also feels more like "real, passionate" sex than other mongering methods imo. Similar experience to mitu with slightly better rooms.

Recommended ladies: Jessica for that "farang look", nene or demi for their energy and skill.

Wow massage.

WOW in a word is thai. They have this hilarious and arousing comic book art on their staircase, very Thai rooms, and nice young girls. Wow is almost certainly the same owner as Kokoro since I see many of the same girls at both shops. The ladies are much younger, more beautiful, but also more reserved here, but they'll still work together nicely. Rimming and DFK is less common, but I think it depends on the girl.

I think ideally you pick one crazy / experienced girl and one or two beautiful girls and hope the crazy one can teach her a few things! Last time I went with Mona, Zara, and Jessica.

Wow massages rooms are like kokoros turned up to 10. I'll go with boxing or jungle room. There's really nothing like having four long stockinged legs and hands sliding all over you to make you feel like a king.

Recommended ladies: Zara for her Sensual beauty, Jenny for your college fantasy, Jessica for her skill. (or any other kokoro lady you can request I think?

Daisy dream.

Threesomess are easy and fun in daisy dream. The rooms are very chiq, the ladies willing, but the beauty standard is a bit lower, similar to kokoro, depending on preference.

Still, I've had some great service in their nice rooms and baths, so ymmv. Without the mat play and rimming, It's just not JAV lascivious lady levels of PSE. But still a good threesome.

If you pick the right girls.

Recommended ladies: May for her energy and great tits.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

QCryptic
10-16-23, 22:08
Hi guys I would like to share my experience with Sukhumvit Nurus. As I get older I figure "why not", and want to go for more and more extreme situations. For me, that is materializing in having multiple young ladies at the same time, ideally whose ages add up to mine (40's = 2 ladies.

60's = 3 ladies, 80's = 4, and so on).

Strip clubs, smooci, etc.

In the past I have met mixed success doing this at strip clubs. Ideally, making intentions known early in the night and finding girls who are friends works, but it takes time, effort, and some liquid courage, and even then once you get to the room, the service is often a bit playfully awkward, with the ladies alternating rather than both really going at it at the same time.

Therefore, my current modus operandi is sukhimvit Nurus, where if you're lucky, you get two ladies that work in tandem like the ravenois angels in JAV, eagerly sucking and slurping and grinding you like their lives depend on it.

Here are some places I've done this in, but if anyone has a suggestion on how to get a perfect threesome, please let me know.

Soap.

Soap in a word is Japanese. Soap is the previous mitu owner I think. It has more asian feel in terms of presentation of ladies, and a service mindset in the lobby / LINE.

I've had really good and really average service at SOAP. , but when it's good (their "P" - tier girls), you'll find yourself with your feet behind your head and two young gelled ladies gobbling your rod and ass like it's their last meal on earth. The only thing confusing is their pricing system.

Recommended ladies: kaede for PSE.

Kokoro massage.

I think the easiest way to describe kokoro is fun. Fun rooms, fun costumes, fun ladies. Sure the ladies aren't the youngest (they definitely don't fit easily into my math featured above,) but many of them make of up with energy and skill. Sex with these girls can be raucous and fun, and although it can be very PSE, it also feels more like "real, passionate" sex than other mongering methods imo. Similar experience to mitu with slightly better rooms.

Recommended ladies: Jessica for that "farang look", nene or demi for their energy and skill.

Wow massage.

WOW in a word is thai. They have this hilarious and arousing comic book art on their staircase, very Thai rooms, and nice young girls. Wow is almost certainly the same owner as Kokoro since I see many of the same girls at both shops. The ladies are much younger, more beautiful, but also more reserved here, but they'll still work together nicely. Rimming and DFK is less common, but I think it depends on the girl.

I think ideally you pick one crazy / experienced girl and one or two beautiful girls and hope the crazy one can teach her a few things! Last time I went with Mona, Zara, and Jessica.

Wow massages rooms are like kokoros turned up to 10. I'll go with boxing or jungle room. There's really nothing like having four long stockinged legs and hands sliding all over you to make you feel like a king.

Recommended ladies: Zara for her Sensual beauty, Jenny for your college fantasy, Jessica for her skill. (or any other kokoro lady you can request I think?

Daisy dream.

Threesomess are easy and fun in daisy dream. The rooms are very chiq, the ladies willing, but the beauty standard is a bit lower, similar to kokoro, depending on preference.

Still, I've had some great service in their nice rooms and baths, so ymmv. Without the mat play and rimming, It's just not JAV lascivious lady levels of PSE. But still a good threesome.

If you pick the right girls.

Recommended ladies: May for her energy and great tits.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.Nice post. I think the soapies are my preferred source of fun in Bangkok personally. I tried doki doki, and then tried aries massage and got addicted to that one. I meant to try daisy dream and kokoro but I just kept going back to Aries since it was consistent for me. SOAP seems interesting, I think I will try that when I am back in Bangkok. At Aries I recommend Nami and Sakura.

TnJed
10-16-23, 23:14
Absolutely we will help you. Please send your itinerary with arrival and departure dates and team here will provide a daily plan for you.

Also you can join our telegram channel where our team will be available 24/7 for you to answer any of your questions (of course for FREE).

And please, do NOT write back any reports on this forum. Any way who reads the reports, when you can just answer questions?Snarky, but well deserved.

DaVinci2
10-18-23, 20:22
I'm headed to BKK for the weekend, but got a little itch for some Filipino action too. Anybody know any particular places I might strike gold?

SamSiyani69
10-18-23, 22:57
Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc!

TConor
10-19-23, 01:19
Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc!https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/bangkok/318849/weather-forecast/318849

Goatscrot
10-19-23, 01:48
Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc!Here you go.

https://weather.tmd.go.th/bma_nck.php

Raj Patela
10-19-23, 01:54
I'm headed to BKK for the weekend, but got a little itch for some Filipino action too. Anybody know any particular places I might strike gold?You are in luck.

70% of Thai Bargirls look Filipino. Aka as Black Thais. I'm not making this up.

Lcale1982
10-19-23, 02:12
Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc!I was there last month and used iphone's weather app It always said warning for heavy rain entire day but maybe 1 or 2 hours it would rain while I was out, usually at night. Sometimes it said it was rainning ATM but it wasnt, maybe in other parts of BKK it was? So pretty inaccurate LOL.

Elephant99
10-19-23, 02:30
My trip is booked in two weeks, but I am yet to book a Hotel. I am astonished at the current prices on Expedia and Priceline. Thus far, I have always been lucky to find an affordable deal on any of those three 5 Stars (four if you count Center Point) between Nana & Asok. The Junior Suite in Hyatt Regency is currently going for $410 a night, that is $3 k a week, that is insane. I suppose demand is likely driving all this (On one hand uncle Powell wants to bring down inflation, the hot-hot economy, and contrarily in Bangkok it seems economy is going up and up fueled by the west. It is believed uncle Powell is done raising rates and now higher for longer will cut down on disposable spendings or better yet loose some jobs. But Bangkok tells a different story on the macro. Some one should send him the Bangkok Hotel prices chart for the last one year, it looks pretty steep to me. He might use it to increase another percent point this November. LOL.Have seen some good deals on Agoda, but yes, generally the prices have been going up and up.

HorseTrader
10-19-23, 03:21
https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/bangkok/318849/weather-forecast/318849


Here you go.

https://weather.tmd.go.th/bma_nck.phpI like looking at a weather map before I go out. Accuweather works well for me in USA, but it has been inaccurate for me in Thailand. I'll try the Goatscrot link next time I'm in Thailand.

IntBond0
10-19-23, 11:10
Best place for new years eve? Phuket, pattaya or Bangkok?

Nyezhov
10-19-23, 18:52
Best place for new years eve? Phuket, pattaya or Bangkok?Every night is NY Eve in Bangkok, except cheaper.

I love the fireworks.

Nyezhov
10-19-23, 18:57
Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc!I'm on my way back. Its going to be raining for the next two weeks. I use gore tex or an umbrella, or just say in my condo and call for take out if I need it.

Banana Boi
10-19-23, 23:40
Best place for new years eve? Phuket, pattaya or Bangkok?What do you mean by best? Best to me if where I am with the best looking girl. I don't waste money on overpriced fancy dinners on NYE.

I only know Pattaya NYE and if it's fireworks you want it's pretty unique. If you are on Beach Road near Central Festival you get to see 360 degree fireworks. In front of you along Beach road, to the left at Bali Hai Pier, to the right from somewhere around Dusit Thani, and behind you from 3rd Road (I have to say I was pretty impressed the first time saw them in 2015. Didn't seem as long a display when I watched them in 2022.

Advice. If you really want fireworks go when the Fireworks competition is on in the Summer. Around 4 nights of amazing extended fireworks displays.

Bunky
10-20-23, 00:00
Yes I am looking for someone to help me out. If someone would be a fucking homie and connect with me, I'd appreciate it! Like I said, I am looking for help around understanding it.I spend *way* too much time reading the traffic in online forums devoted to a variety of special interests. I'm old enough to remember Usenet newsgroups in the Nineties, and before that dial-up bulletin boards. It seems to me there are some universal rules that apply no matter what the forum or the topic under discussion.

The rule that applies here says that people who are new to the forum should respect the efforts of those who have taken the time to post useful information. At a minimum, that means doing your homework by reading a representative sample of old posts, which will usually provide a solid baseline of knowledge. If you make an effort and *still* have questions, netiquette dictates that you frame them specifically and ask them individually.

The classic example of what *not* to do: (A) Falsely claim to have "read the forum." (B) Ask for a tour d'horizon. "I've read all prior posts here regarding using a handgun for self defense, but I have some questions. What kind of gun should I buy? What's the best calibre? How does one carry concealed? Do the laws permit me to use the gun to protect myself? Can anybody recommend a dealer?"

You get the idea.

I'm not picking on Mr. Bear. He's just latest chap to wander into the forum and make a common mistake.

That said, I'll dispense a little advice here in the Bangkok forum. He should stay in a hotel near the BTS Skytrain Green Line, between stations E1 to E5. He should spend at least two nights checking out the go go bar scene on Soi Cowboy and at Nana Entertainment Plaza. He should take a look at the freelance girls who hang out in front of the Nana Hotel. He should check out the massage places on Soi 24. He should at least make a lap through Thermae some evening about 2100. I don't like to find girls online. But if he's so inclined, he should read the reports about ThaiFriendly and the escort services.

Old Bangkok Hands will know this barely scratches the surface. But it's a solid start for a guy on his first visit.

Bunky

TConor
10-20-23, 00:31
I like looking at a weather map before I go out. Accuweather works well for me in USA, but it has been inaccurate for me in Thailand. I'll try the Goatscrot link next time I'm in Thailand.Once you land download a weather app on your smart phone.

Raj Patela
10-20-23, 05:23
As slow as the Bangkok thread is I appreciate guys asking the same questions over and over and over Again.

YetAnotherGuy
10-20-23, 08:17
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I've always wondered if there was a Rush to barfine the 3's and 4's at the end of the night.

Were the Nana Rainbow girls who get No action during prime time Scooped up at Closing.
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Having known a bunch of bargirls personally, while there are a few girls who get barfined a lot, there are lots (even lots of reasonably attractive girls) who get barfined on the order of once a week, or even once a month. They're not unattractive girls, some are very attractive, just girls that aren't as pushy.

Raj Patela
10-20-23, 08:32
Having known a bunch of bargirls personally, while there are a few girls who get barfined a lot, there are lots (even lots of reasonably attractive girls) who get barfined on the order of once a week, or even once a month. They're not unattractive girls, some are very attractive, just girls that aren't as pushy.Agreed some of the Attractive ones are left alone. Facts.

Some are just down right Mean Looking. Snagglepusses. Guy can read the Bad Vibes.

While some who seem Kinda Ugly get Barfined all the time. Go figure!

Where does Nana Schoolgirl fit in all this. If some of you think she is Pretty she must have Customers. Hahaha. Hahaha.

Sb1990
10-20-23, 10:53
I am planning a 3 day trip but confused between Bangkok / Pattaya vs Signapore. My RTFF summariaes the following.

Bangkok / Pattaya.

Scene is quite relaxed and open. Picking up girls in bar after a chat sounds reseanoble. However bar fine is significant these days. In that price you can have a ST with a girl in Singapore.

Price haggling puts me off. I love fixed pricing and can't negotiate.

I love soapy bars which are not there in Singapore.

Singapore.

Many agencies have telegram groups so I can plan and utilise my time to the max, rather than bar hopping, chatting and then going back to hotel.

Easy to hook up with a beautiful girl at an affordable price. LT in Sing is 300 SGD which is comparable to similar girls charging in Bangkok.

Many nationalities are available easily. PRC, Thai, Viet plus westerners.

Any advice why you would choose one over the other?

Axel Heyst
10-20-23, 13:24
Having known a bunch of bargirls personally, while there are a few girls who get barfined a lot, there are lots (even lots of reasonably attractive girls) who get barfined on the order of once a week, or even once a month. They're not unattractive girls, some are very attractive, just girls that aren't as pushy.Yeah, there are usually only a few top tier girls in the more popular Go Go's that manage to get barfined every night, sometimes multiple times per night, while the majority of Go Go girls just sit around and are lucky to get barfined once a week. A girl's looks and personality and price combined with overall demand are the main factors that determine a girl's success rate. I am always amazed, however, when I see a somewhat attractive Go Go girl, who has not been barfined for a few nights or longer, stubbornly remain fixed at some ridiculously unrealistic price point. Some girls are just really bad at marketing. 555.

YetAnotherGuy
10-20-23, 17:56
Yeah, there are usually only a few top tier girls in the more popular Go Go's that manage to get barfined every night, sometimes multiple times per night, while the majority of Go Go girls just sit around and are lucky to get barfined once a week. A girl's looks and personality and price combined with overall demand are the main factors that determine a girl's success rate. I am always amazed, however, when I see a somewhat attractive Go Go girl, who has not been barfined for a few nights or longer, stubbornly remain fixed at some ridiculously unrealistic price point. Some girls are just really bad at marketing. 555.Part of the deal is that the girls can actually do OK just on drinks. They get THB 100 / drink. I know a girl who virtually always gets over 25 drinks in a night, and has gotten as many as 80. Now, she's really good at selling drinks (and isn't pushy), but still, being barfined isn't actually necessary to make a decent income.

Axel Heyst
10-20-23, 18:40
Part of the deal is that the girls can actually do OK just on drinks. They get THB 100 / drink. I know a girl who virtually always gets over 25 drinks in a night, and has gotten as many as 80. Now, she's really good at selling drinks (and isn't pushy), but still, being barfined isn't actually necessary to make a decent income.What you have illustrated is one of the main reasons why the Thai Go Go scene is dying. Prices are ridiculous considering the quality and the girls are so spoiled, many can choose not to barfine. I ask you; is this any way to run a fucking bordello? 555 (KKK).

As to this 25 drink / night Go Go girl you mentioned; I avoid girls like her like the plague. But what you are really saying is that post-covid, a punter needs to ask any potential Go Go girl if she barfines before asking if she would like to have a drink which is fucked up IMHO.

Locamotive
10-20-23, 19:55
Part of the deal is that the girls can actually do OK just on drinks. They get THB 100 / drink. I know a girl who virtually always gets over 25 drinks in a night, and has gotten as many as 80. Now, she's really good at selling drinks (and isn't pushy), but still, being barfined isn't actually necessary to make a decent income.True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.

IntBond0
10-20-23, 22:33
What do you mean by best? Best to me if where I am with the best looking girl. I don't waste money on overpriced fancy dinners on NYE.

I only know Pattaya NYE and if it's fireworks you want it's pretty unique. If you are on Beach Road near Central Festival you get to see 360 degree fireworks. In front of you along Beach road, to the left at Bali Hai Pier, to the right from somewhere around Dusit Thani, and behind you from 3rd Road (I have to say I was pretty impressed the first time saw them in 2015. Didn't seem as long a display when I watched them in 2022.

Advice. If you really want fireworks go when the Fireworks competition is on in the Summer. Around 4 nights of amazing extended fireworks displays.To meet the most beautiful girls and have the most fun out of the three.

EihTooms
10-21-23, 03:03
True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.Contrary to what most of us thought was the case or hoped would be the case before we really got into the Thai P4 P scene, Thai prostitutes are not poor beggars so desperate for money they must do whatever a merciful paying customer wants and go with anyone willing to give them money.

They are not poor at all. Not the ones we are likely to meet in the tourist red light districts. Certainly not poor by Thai standards. Not even poor compared to poor people I have seen in poor areas of the USA. I doubt I have ever met one truly poor Thai prostitute in the 12 years I have lived in Thailand. And I have meet hundreds of them.

Inconvenienced by not having this or last month's rent? Or, rather, had it but spent it all on late night sumtam parties and drinks with their girlfriends? Yes. Poor? No.

Worried that they are late paying back extravagant gambling debts? Yes. Poor? No.

This would be especially true of Thai gogo bar girls. They are far more likely to be in it for the fun of hanging out with other Thai girls, to impress them with how good they are at the "sport" of hustling LDs from dumb men, to avoid the boredom of just sitting at home with grandma and the baby, to experience a new and interesting dick every now and then and for the booze than "for the money" exactly.

Many are Party Girls pretending to be "poor" with a purse full of 1000 baht notes at all times.

Not really poor.

Therefore, they can easily say No to anyone at any time for any reason without batting an eye and most definitely without missing a meal, the next free drink and a hearty laugh amongst their bargirl co-workers over getting a customer to pay them for it.

As an Asian female, they have never felt so much attention, power and control over men. That is quite addictive for them. They are far more likely to be in the bar or in the P4 P scene for that than for any pretend need for money.

Raj Patela
10-21-23, 03:34
True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.After spending numerous hours just observing.

I agree that the majority of guys approaching Bargirls for Sex is not the quintessential Beauty of a Man.

Goatscrot
10-21-23, 05:03
True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.Back in the late 90's early 00's salaries for bar girls or 6 7 and 8,000, depending on whether they danced closed, topless, or fully nude. That and the small amount of money they got for drinks was not enough to sustain them. They made their money by going with customers. As soon as the Arab took over bars in soy cowboy, the coyote model came about where girls were signing 10-day contracts for 10,000. So all of a sudden they could make 30 k by just showing up and dancing, and along with their drink supplement make plenty of money to get by. This was not good for punters. And along with knowing they had enough income to survive they could then be pickier and charge more for their services.

PgReal
10-21-23, 09:40
I'm on my way back. Its going to be raining for the next two weeks. I use gore tex or an umbrella, or just say in my condo and call for take out if I need it.May sound stupid but if you are going out to soak up the atmosphere (no pun intended) late at night to eye up the street freelancers etc, I strongly recommend go for an umbrella rather than rain jacket / hood. I talk from experience. I found during the heavy rains girls were a bit wary of me approaching them if I had a hood on. Changed the next night to an umbrella and then miraculously the girls would be coming up to you instead (which all part of the fun).

Even if you are only there for a day or two, most hotels will lend you an Umbrella also. The other reason (obviously depending) on time of year that I ditched the coat was it can get bloody hot and humid even very late at night. Blooming sweat was pouring off me haha!

Also in the heavy rain the number of FL's on the street will be way down, just head over to Thermae bar for a laugh. Hundred or more to choose from at any time!

Nyezhov
10-21-23, 19:31
May sound stupid but if you are going out to soak up the atmosphere (no pun intended) late at night to eye up the street freelancers etc, I strongly recommend go for an umbrella rather than rain jacket / hood. I talk from experience. I found during the heavy rains girls were a bit wary of me approaching them if I had a hood on. Changed the next night to an umbrella and then miraculously the girls would be coming up to you instead (which all part of the fun).

Even if you are only there for a day or two, most hotels will lend you an Umbrella also. The other reason (obviously depending) on time of year that I ditched the coat was it can get bloody hot and humid even very late at night. Blooming sweat was pouring off me haha!

Also in the heavy rain the number of FL's on the street will be way down, just head over to Thermae bar for a laugh. Hundred or more to choose from at any time!Appreciate the advice but I have several umbrellas already plus I wear high priced rain gear so don't sweat or get wet. But thanks for trying to help me out as I approach probably my 20th rainy season in SE Asia.

If a girl is leery of my hood, I just plaster a thousand baht note to my face.

About 12 years ago, a peddlar lady outside Thermae offered me an umbrella for 100 b. I declined with a smiling paeng mak, went inside, came out later, and it was pouring. Lady saw me, smiled pulled out a piece of cardboard with 300 B written on it and stuck it on her stock.

Nyezhov
10-22-23, 17:14
Contrary to what most of us thought was the case or hoped would be the case before we really got into the Thai P4 P scene, Thai prostitutes are not poor beggars so desperate for money they must do whatever a merciful paying customer wants and go with anyone willing to give them money.

They are not poor at all. Not the ones we are likely to meet in the tourist red light districts. Certainly not poor by Thai standards. Not even poor compared to poor people I have seen in poor areas of the USA. I doubt I have ever met one truly poor Thai prostitute in the 12 years I have lived in Thailand. And I have meet hundreds of them.

Inconvenienced by not having this or last month's rent? Or, rather, had it but spent it all on late night sumtam parties and drinks with their girlfriends? Yes. Poor? No.

Worried that they are late paying back extravagant gambling debts? Yes. Poor? No.

This would be especially true of Thai gogo bar girls. They are far more likely to be in it for the fun of hanging out with other Thai girls, to impress them with how good they are at the "sport" of hustling LDs from dumb men, to avoid the boredom of just sitting at home with grandma and the baby, to experience a new and interesting dick every now and then and for the booze than "for the money" exactly..This needs to be stickied and referred to every time we see the does she love me posts.

And, not to be ever accused of being an ugly American, but my young newbie brethren from India need to read that post and understand why they get treated badly and will be treated badly by Thai hookers. Quite frankly, many earn more than you do and they know it. That's their further position of power, one that they do not have with wealthier older westerners, especially expats.

That's the reverse power that Western expats have. We live there, we have all the time in the world to weed them out. Its a game to them, and should be to you.

MachchiBaba
10-22-23, 18:59
And, not to be ever accused of being an ugly American, but my young newbie brethren from India need to read that post and understand why they get treated badly and will be treated badly by Thai hookers. Quite frankly, many earn more than you do and they know it. That's their further position of power, one that they do not have with wealthier older westerners, especially expats.
Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.

Raj Patela
10-23-23, 05:31
Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.Recently I was treated like an Indian in Pattaya.

One drink and I was Booted before my usual 30 minutes.

It did not feel Pleasent. Hahaha.

Nyezhov
10-23-23, 06:54
Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.Exactly. The girls have no idea of how it is in the usa. To them, if you look Indian, you are a poor bum on a boys cheap charter looking to share a coke. Meanwhile, they don't realize that you have just founded your fourth tech company here in the USA since here in the states if you are of Indian ancestry, that's what you do: you are a sucessful big earner.

All I can suggest for you is that in nightclubs make sure they somehow know you are an American. Don't quite have the strategy for that, I guess it would have to be an ad hoc thing. Thai folks don't differentiate in accents or mannerisms, you would be surprised how many times a day I'm asked where do you come from when I am so blatantly American to any Westerner that it's laughable. Then again, I can pick an American out of the crowd, no matter what his race or at the background is. I walked up toh a couple of Asian guys over in Nana one night and ask them what part of California they were from. They freaked out and said how do you know that we are American. I told him that now, your accents have confirmed it, but if I see tattooed up Asian dudes who are 6 ft tall and 220 lb, and wearing NFL jerseys, backwards ball caps and have mustaches, I can tell you that they're Hmong people so I was curious as to where in California. They said Stockton and we smoked a fat joint.

Sammon
10-23-23, 11:03
Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.Racial profiling is going to be there all over the world according to how you look. There are bad apples who behave badly irrespective of how look and how people assume where the person is from. I believe problem in Thailand is lots of Indians go there because of proximity and cheap fares and cheap living and cheap pussy. India is conservative and with LE problems not easy to have fun.

I believe to have a good time ignore the racial profiling and do your own thing. Thailand caters to everyone irrespective of which country they come from. If you are ignored in one place there are others who welcome you.

Zam007
10-23-23, 12:02
The best way to avoid this problem is to keep your smart phone backed up. I don't know why Somewhere15 had a problem.

I've changed phones more times since getting Line than I care to remember and I've never lost anything during phone changes. I have iPhone, but I'm confident that Android has something equivalent. I do automated nightly backups via WiFi to iCloud and then about weekly I do a wired encrypted manual backup to my laptop using iTunes. Before I go to the phone store, the last thing I do is a manual backup to my laptop. When I get my new phone, I take it straight home and do a restore from my laptop. I can't remember every losing anything from any of my phone apps.So, I got it back. But a bit too late.

Line replied to my email request that I was permenantly banned due to the soliciting. Yes, they have access to our conversations and some of them were kinky.

But, I wanted to try again, I got a pop up that read I need to wait for another 14 days before trying again. I tried after 14 days and it worked.

By then, I was not in BKK anymore and the good ones left or changed their IDs. But, I suspect some of them may return.

I have backed it up anyways.

Expat American
10-24-23, 08:34
Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.In order to be treated as such you need to dress a bit better, make sure you smell good and talk more politely than the average tourist from India. Also don't hang out in a big group of other Indians. Actually the Thai girls are not racist per se as much as they want to maximize their chance of earning the most with as little work as possible. Indians are trained to bargain for everything while white people generally just pay up and Asians overpay. Thats the basic difference. I have seen Koreans offer 3 K or 4 K to street girls on Sukhumvit. Wouldn't you expect girls to flock to them? Even if only 25% of them do that, it sets up the reputation.

WanderingMan
10-24-23, 08:46
Three of us arrive at BKK at 00:20, just after midnight in mid-November. We are staying off of Soi 11, just north of Sukhumvit Road, and estimate our arrival between 01:30 and 02:15. That places us at Nana near closing time. How late do the freelancers typically work near Nana after closing? One of the travelers doesn't want to wait until the next day to partake. Thank you.