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Hi everybody, I am looking for the absolute best of BKK, the hottest girls around, and willing to pay for it too. If you have any recommendations where the absolute VIP girls would go outside of the usual Nana / Soi Cowboy / Patpong, would appreciate it. Price is no object. Feel free to PM me if easier. Thanks. In advance.You are in the wrong city. Take a short flight to Singapore or Macau, stay at Marina Bay Sands or the Venetian Book the Penthouse Suites but most likely they will be booked 1 year in advance, become a LVS (the owners of MBS and the Venetian) VIP member and the casino or operations manager will get you what you want.
Hi everybody, I am looking for the absolute best of BKK, the hottest girls around, and willing to pay for it too. If you have any recommendations where the absolute VIP girls would go outside of the usual Nana / Soi Cowboy / Patpong, would appreciate it. Price is no object. Feel free to PM me if easier. Thanks. In advance.Maria and the like. Fishbowl selection, sidelines even better. You'll have to do your business in-house but I imagine after a few visits with a girl, take out options become viable. Another option would be the Gentleman clubs like PIMP. I posted about it recently. Not my style and a bit of a cock-tease. But I imagine if one invested in multiple visits and splurges on the same chick, she would make herself available for take out. These two venues had the best looking girls for top dollar. However as you can see in both instances it also requires an investment in time.
I agree with the previous posters. Sure you can spend your days seeking out top dollar high roller women, but Bkk is just not geared up that way. Thailand's charm is the cheep and cheerful. Multiple pops per day, switch girls, venues, formats. I'm pretty sure 500 USD on the streets of BKK can keep you occupied for days with decent quality women and service. That to me is far better than spending 500 bucks for an hour with a seemly high class chick who speaks pigeon English and may or may not put out.
As I consider myself an old Bangkok hand and having had previously good experience with local joints I just had to do T-Ded. While having significant Thai experience for literally decades I do not speak Thai nor do I particularly like the party setup thing. I am no heavy drinker, monger alone so it is kind of not my sweet spot.
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Take out to a nearby dump hotel with only cold water is 2500 all inclusive,
I'm similar, but yikes. I'm too spoiled to enjoy unheated showers at night and did not know about that.
Doesn't Levels on Sukhumvit Soi 11 require men to wear long pants and no sandals / open toe shoes? Maybe other similar clubs too. They used to. But I have not gone in there in a couple of years.Possibly, but I wouldn't consider that to be nana plaza and the surrounding bars.
Axel Heyst
01-11-25, 13:21
Hi everybody, I am looking for the absolute best of BKK, the hottest girls around, and willing to pay for it too. If you have any recommendations where the absolute VIP girls would go outside of the usual Nana / Soi Cowboy / Patpong, would appreciate it. Price is no object. Feel free to PM me if easier. Thanks. In advance.It is all in the hunt because the truth is: really hot working girls are a somewhat rare find in BKK's nightlife industry and in my experience although one can find them in small numbers almost anywhere, if you look. So, first I recommend a couple of the better Nana Go Go's like Rainbow 4 and Billboard as a good starting point and to anchor your expectations as to what you can expect. My favorite Go Go's will usually have at least 3 or 4 very pretty girls working there. The lesser Go Go's won't have any doable girls IMHO. 555.
Next, widen the search to include a few high end soapies like Black Caviar, Maria Massage, and La Belle. These soapies recruit their girls from a different source than the Go Go's, and cater more to NE Asian tastes in girls. Not all soapy girls are hot, of course, but I am pretty sure you will find a few girls that you will find attractive there although I could be wrong.
Next, check and some of the nightclubs. Nightclub girls are FL's and their talent level can be high, although sometimes it is hit or miss. You never know until you go.
And lastly, if you have the time (and money) and are still searching, check out a Gentlemen's Club like The Pimp Club. You will find some very pretty girls here too, but the downside is that the Pimp is very expensive, and shagging a Pimp girl of your choice is not guaranteed.
Good luck hunting.
HorseTrader
01-11-25, 17:50
Nyezhov is spot on. If you must wear shorts, only during the day, long pants at night.What is the basis for this comment? Many people post similar things. I agree that Thai men wear long pants, I see no reason to mimic them. I wear shorts and running shoes, switch to sandals for raining days. My shirts range from button down to golf shirts to ordinary T-shirts. Always clean clothes and freshly showered. I seem to be welcomed everywhere I go, though I don't go to high end restaurants or 5-star hotels.
JustLoggedInto
01-11-25, 17:55
Hi everybody, I am looking for the absolute best of BKK, the hottest girls around, and willing to pay for it too. If you have any recommendations where the absolute VIP girls would go outside of the usual Nana / Soi Cowboy / Patpong, would appreciate it. Price is no object. Feel free to PM me if easier. Thanks. In advance.That's the wrong approach though. You have to think like the girl. Where would the girl go to where she would make the most money and the most business.
And IMO the hottest ones are in Nana and Soi Cowboy or Walking Street Pattaya.
Looks are a subjective thing but I found the girls in Rainbow 5 prettier than the ones in Billiards. I think Billiards they were all tattooed, dark and not my style, more what Farang like. Rainbow 5 girls and the girls in Walking Street Pattaya were definitely where I found prettier girls. There's another place near where Nataree used to be (Ratchadapisek) and there's pretty girls there too but I stopped going there since it's too long of a BTS ride but those had some stunners. PIMP isn't worth it. PIMP is a ripoff, you'll see prettier girls in Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy / Walking Street. Again, think like the girl. Where would the girl go if you knew you were hot. Not there.
What is the basis for this comment? Many people post similar things. I agree that Thai men wear long pants, I see no reason to mimic them. I wear shorts and running shoes, switch to sandals for raining days. My shirts range from button down to golf shirts to ordinary T-shirts. Always clean clothes and freshly showered. I seem to be welcomed everywhere I go, though I don't go to high end restaurants or 5-star hotels.Honestly, l'm not trying to sound like a turd, but my experience as a 25-year resident is that you are treated better overall if you wear long pants. Your opening statement that Thai men wear long pants is a clue to the cultural norms of dress here. You often do see long pants and sandals at times, but again much of this is class dependent. When you see locals wearing shorts the majority of them are lower class workers, although I will admit there are some exceptions when you see middle and upper class folks in shorts, but if they are in shorts they are normally in very nice shorts and like you in golf shirts or button-downs. Personally I never wear shorts in big cities. Sandals in the wet? You're a lot braver than I am. I just don't feel comfortable getting my feet soaked in that dirty water.
NeilGeorge
01-11-25, 19:36
Personally I never wear shorts in big cities.In Bangkok the cockroaches and rats will crawl up your legs if you wear short pants. They leave their garbage at the curb at night and in the morning the rats and roaches have already feasted. Better to wear socks and long pants.
Mr Enternational
01-11-25, 20:08
What is the basis for this comment? Many people post similar things. I agree that Thai men wear long pants, I see no reason to mimic them.Exactly. Happens in many threads. People think they will be able to masquerade as a local even though it is obvious they are not. Nevermind they will mimic what the locals do, not knowing the reason they do it.
For instance people would point out in some of the Latin America threads that the locals wear long pants and dress shirts and never tennis shoes or sandlas and they would recommend others dress the same. They never realized they got this observation from when locals are going about their work day. But when those same locals finsihed with the work day, you could see them outside and at the malls with their families wearing shorts and tennis shoes or sandals.
We already know people in Thailand are afraid to get darker. Could this possibly be a reason for the long pants versus it being some type of cultural norm or way to get treated better as some assume?
HorseTrader
01-11-25, 21:19
Honestly, l'm not trying to sound like a turd, but my experience as a 25-year resident is that you are treated better overall if you wear long pants. ... Sandals in the wet? You're a lot braver than I am. I just don't feel comfortable getting my feet soaked in that dirty water.Thanks for that good reply.
I travel with only 2 pairs of shoes: running shoes and sandals. If the running shoes get wet, it's days to dry out. When the sandals get wet, they dry overnight. My favorite areas have so many puddles that it is often impossible to keep my feet dry.
I agree on the dirty water, so my feet get washed frequently and my sandals get washed about twice a week.
On a related note, have you ever noticed a bar girl showering her whole body? With me, they seem to wash only from shoulders to knees, sometimes less than that. Feet often get ignored. Hair seldom gets washed (and sometimes smells bad).
Thanks for that good reply.
I travel with only 2 pairs of shoes: running shoes and sandals. If the running shoes get wet, it's days to dry out. When the sandals get wet, they dry overnight. My favorite areas have so many puddles that it is often impossible to keep my feet dry.
I agree on the dirty water, so my feet get washed frequently and my sandals get washed about twice a week.
On a related note, have you ever noticed a bar girl showering her whole body? With me, they seem to wash only from shoulders to knees, sometimes less than that. Feet often get ignored. Hair seldom gets washed (and sometimes smells bad).Showering. I'm oily and fiwfans only and would most of them shower with you it seems mainly they're nether regions that are getting washed although there are a few that's so down their whole body. I would imagine they have to be a little bit careful with their skin drying out especially if they're seeing multiple customers per day.
When traveling I usually only take one pair of shoes myself, and that's a good pair of trainers, either water repellent or Gore-Tex, or if it's cold Gore-Tex boots. I tend towards Hi-Tech fabrics when I'm traveling like Merino wool tops, socks, and underwear and pants that I can wash in the sink and will dry quickly.
I like to travel only with a 7 kg backpack as a carry-on even when I'm going to cold climates.
I thought you were a resident. My bad.
HorseTrader
01-12-25, 04:03
I thought you were a resident. My bad.No, just 2 trips per year totaling about 13 weeks in Thailand.
Honestly, l'm not trying to sound like a turd, but my experience as a 25-year resident is that you are treated better overall if you wear long pants. Your opening statement that Thai men wear long pants is a clue to the cultural norms of dress here. You often do see long pants and sandals at times, but again much of this is class dependent. When you see locals wearing shorts the majority of them are lower class workers, although I will admit there are some exceptions when you see middle and upper class folks in shorts, but if they are in shorts they are normally in very nice shorts and like you in golf shirts or button-downs. Personally I never wear shorts in big cities. Sandals in the wet? You're a lot braver than I am. I just don't feel comfortable getting my feet soaked in that dirty water.As another long term resident, I agree with your points on the cultural norms of dress here. And especially how a lot of it is class dependent. However, I value comfort, and I do find shorts to be far more comfortable than long trousers in this climate. So I guess I would include myself with the exceptions you mention of middle and upper class folks in shorts; but like them I wear nice, tailored shorts with a smart shirt. Of course it depends where I'm going, so if I'm going to a smart restaurant or a 5 star hotel then I will wear long trousers, but anywhere else I find my smart shorts and shirt are accepted just fine.
That's the wrong approach though. You have to think like the girl. Where would the girl go to where she would make the most money and the most business.
And IMO the hottest ones are in Nana and Soi Cowboy or Walking Street Pattaya.
Looks are a subjective thing but I found the girls in Rainbow 5 prettier than the ones in Billiards. I think Billiards they were all tattooed, dark and not my style, more what Farang like. Rainbow 5 girls and the girls in Walking Street Pattaya were definitely where I found prettier girls. There's another place near where Nataree used to be (Ratchadapisek) and there's pretty girls there too but I stopped going there since it's too long of a BTS ride but those had some stunners. PIMP isn't worth it. PIMP is a ripoff, you'll see prettier girls in Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy / Walking Street. Again, think like the girl. Where would the girl go if you knew you were hot. Not there.See how folks turn a good observation into the start of an ego war. ? What is "More what farang like"? You speak for all "farang"? You "farang" yourself?
If you mean Billboard, I find the girls there to be the overall best in Nana. On MOST days. There are usually about 50 ish girls, all types. Sometimes its heifer friendly. Not all girls are tatted up. I'm a farang that doesn't like heifers. Raibow 5 to me is no 2, all the rest. It depends.
I have about 25 visits to Nana last year.
Honestly, l'm not trying to sound like a turd, but my experience as a 25-year resident is that you are treated better overall if you wear long pants. Your opening statement that Thai men wear long pants is a clue to the cultural norms of dress here. You often do see long pants and sandals at times, but again much of this is class dependent. When you see locals wearing shorts the majority of them are lower class workers, although I will admit there are some exceptions when you see middle and upper class folks in shorts, but if they are in shorts they are normally in very nice shorts and like you in golf shirts or button-downs. Personally I never wear shorts in big cities. Sandals in the wet? You're a lot braver than I am. I just don't feel comfortable getting my feet soaked in that dirty water.Exactly. This has been the rule for 40 plus years. The girls will respect you more if you are dressed in what they consider to be indicative of a higher social standing.
Flip flops or barefoot sandals are another class indicator. Folks that wear shoes in public are simply viewed to be higher class. Thais are very class conscious.
I don't make the rules, I just follow them. What Goatscrot says is absolutely correct.
ProTip: Nothing is more fun on your first mongering trip that getting your foot cut up and then infected. Make sure then you wear flip flops while walking drunk down Soi Nana. I have never worn open toed sandals of flip flops in SE Asia outside my home. Never in 40 years. I like my toes and I don't get free health care. Its a basic health measure.
Showering. I'm oily and fiwfans only and would most of them shower with you it seems mainly they're nether regions that are getting washed although there are a few that's so down their whole body. I would imagine they have to be a little bit careful with their skin drying out especially if they're seeing multiple customers per day.
When traveling I usually only take one pair of shoes myself, and that's a good pair of trainers, either water repellent or Gore-Tex, or if it's cold Gore-Tex boots. I tend towards Hi-Tech fabrics when I'm traveling like Merino wool tops, socks, and underwear and pants that I can wash in the sink and will dry quickly.
I like to travel only with a 7 kg backpack as a carry-on even when I'm going to cold climates.
I thought you were a resident. My bad.Exactly. Traveling with a small backpack is the best as is quality gear. I prefer Merrill MOAB Goretex boots myself, and when I do exploration trips, even to junglish places, they are all I need. As to shoes, take a look at the line of Keen Sandals, like the Arroyo. Very comfy and fashionable if you have nice fluorescent socks. And the tootsies are safe and covered.
Pants: I like the zip off legs, which means I can hop off a train from Lopburi, put the legs on, and end up in Mixx (no shorts). I get those from LL Bean, Marmot or Columbia.
UnderArmour Heat Gear is very nice too.
I can go 4 plus days out of an Osprey Talon 11 liter.
FriendlyGuyHi
01-12-25, 08:41
Before I begin my rant, let me just say that I've traveled to Thailand more than 12 times stretching back to my first trip back in '98. When I lived in Singapore in the mid-2000's, Thailand was a frequent destination for getaway weekends, etc. I recently got the DTV visa for the purpose of testing the waters for longer stays because in the past, I've really enjoyed Bangkok's cosmopolitan mix of dining, shopping, leisurely activities, cost of living, etc. My last trip was last year and I enjoyed myself.
What happened?
I haven't had a breath of fresh air since I arrived over a month ago. I've grown accustomed to the occasional wafting of future air from the canals or the sewer grates, But I thought I was quite a depth in knowing which areas to avoid and bypassing risky spots. But the air on this trip has been unbearable. Not a day has gone by where on multiple occasions, I haven't felt the urge to hurl the contents of my stomach due to the stench. My throat is raw due to the effects of air pollution that reminds me of India or Egypt. For the first time in my life, I've resorted to walking around with a mask on and even that is just borderline effective. On the 200 m walk back from the local restaurant to my Thonglor boutique hotel, Tears came to my eyes as I watched mothers walk their young ones out for a Sunday stroll, and the only thing I could think about was the irreparable damage they were doing to their young lungs.
I have traveled here in January and February before so I thought I was ready for what I knew was the bad season. But this is unreal. Am I overly sensitive or has anyone else noticed the severity?
I originally had the intention of staying here for three or four months, but now I'm looking for an escape. I tried going to Phuket. That was abysmal. My first mistake was going to Rawai which is a complete shit hole. Nai Harn beach smelled like raw sewage. I tried going swimming in Kata and Karon, but the sea lice in both had me running out of the water. I left Phuket five days before the end of my prepaid stay.
From a hobbyist perspective. It also seems to me that the quality of talent in Nana, Cowboy and Patpong has seriously gone downhill. As early as last year, I was getting great action from 7's, 8's and occasional 9's. This year, I've barely managed to locate an 8. Most are dark-skinned 6's that locals wouldn't even bother with. All the girls have decent quality seemed to have gone to the Japanese and Korean KTV's. Even T-Ded 99 seemed to have higher caliber girls than most of the go-go's in Nana.
I know I'm going to get flamed. Have at it. But as someone who's thoroughly enjoyed himself here over the years.
On a (hopefully) more positive note. Can anyone let me know if the air quality in KL or Singapore is markedly better than Bangkok? I remembered being so, but I know they also suffer some smog during this season.
Yesterday evening at a s/t hotel in Asok near to Soi Cowboy. Met her via Tinder then took the conversation over to LINE. 19 years old (could be a little bit older) and pretty, but could do with losing a few kg.
She wanted 3k for s/t, I offered 2k and she readily accepted, but declined when I told her no condom. She quickly changed her mind when I offered her another 500.
She offered to go to my room. I live in a condo unit in Nonthaburi and do not bring girls to my room, so gave her the option of meeting near to her home or meeting at MRT Sukhumvit which is only about a 40 minute journey for me on the MRT. She chose the MRT option.
She arrived 10 minutes early (I was 20 minutes early, and we went straight to the hotel after we met). No fare money was asked for, and none was given.
I normally go out to the bars on Saturday evenings for a few beers (Patpong/Nana/Cowboy) and did so after our meet, which was an enjoyable start to the night.
Axel Heyst
01-12-25, 13:54
There's another place near where Nataree used to be (Ratchadapisek) and there's pretty girls there too but I stopped going there since it's too long of a BTS ride but those had some stunners.Whoa there, JLI; so you are telling us that there is new place now open in the building where Nataree used to be, and they have pretty girls? This is very interesting news. Tell us more like what is the setup there? Is it a bordello like Nataree was or a pickup bar like Thermae? In it's day, Nataree was a meat market, but was a great place because they had a ton of young, pretty, girls from the north before the authorities shut it down). It's location never deterred me from going, but then I used to go Kings Castle 1 & 2, Patpong at least once a week and I didn't care if I had to travel all the way from Thong Lo to get there. I will always go the extra mile for pretty girls and a little variety.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-12-25, 18:24
Hi everybody, I am looking for the absolute best of BKK, the hottest girls around, and willing to pay for it too. If you have any recommendations where the absolute VIP girls would go outside of the usual Nana / Soi Cowboy / Patpong, would appreciate it. Price is no object. Feel free to PM me if easier. Thanks. In advance.So what is your definition of hot? That's a very subjective term. But regardless, hot girls can be found everywhere and on occasion, nowhere. As someone else said, if price is no object, you're in the wrong city. Head down to Singapore if that's the case.
EverythingThai
01-12-25, 19:30
As I consider myself an old Bangkok hand and having had previously good experience with local joints I just had to do T-Ded. While having significant Thai experience for literally decades I do not speak Thai nor do I particularly like the party setup thing. I am no heavy drinker, monger alone so it is kind of not my sweet spot.
T-Ded is easy enough to find, BTS Saphan Kwai, walk 10 minutes past the Big see turn left two times and it is difficult to miss. Action starts around 9 pm, they are open until 5 AM. The place is in urgent need for renovation, nothing high end here. Just a run down gogo bar with dancers in bikinis. I entered around 9:30 after a massage nearby as I had arrived too early. The massage was good but most interesting was the special negotiation going on in the next section. My therapist and I had a good laugh.
So back to T-Ded. You just enter, the manager speaks 3 words of English, get a table or a private room (150 Bath per hour). Order drinks and food or pick a girl first. Manager is very helpful but you will be the only white Falange. There were at least 50 girls, most GND and really almost all doable. I picked one, who turned out to be a dancer so she will be away for a couple of minutes occasionally but no worries she will be back. The private rooms have glass doors so not much privacy, I did not experience or saw a lot of naughty action therefore. Communication via google translate was easy. The food costs 150 to 400 bath a plate, beer also 150 for a big bottle. They will try to get you to order more and everyone wants a 100 baht tip. So watch it. It will add up. I stayed 2 hours with my girl and paid 2200 including tips, it will be difficult to get much less. The 100 baht lap dances are lame. She grinds you for 3 minutes and lets you grab her naked tits. You give her 100. Not sure why that is in any way appealing. Take out to a nearby dump hotel with only cold water is 2500 all inclusive, she wanted 6 k for the night but leave at 6 am. No good deal IMHO. So I took her ST, which was short but a full GFE delight. Tipped her 500. So the whole evening came to a little more than 5 k plus 65 baht motobikertaxi back home. And I doubt you can get this much lower. It is absolutely no problem to go there as long as you know how to behave in Thailand and watch your expenses. It was it worth for me to experience it once but is it really cheaper? I visited Geisha to see my lovely Bam and had a bar tap of 1 k for 3 lady drinks plus my beer. BF 1 k and she would have gotten another 3 k. So no big difference. But thanks for finding this place and keep more local options coming. There is much more to Bangkok than Nana, Soi Cowboy and the usual MPs!
FA.Great report Fernando. Did you happen to notice all the girls sitting along the back corridor and the ones at the far end? They normally have about 200 total. 5000 Baht is not a lot to spend for the time you were there. Of course if you go into a go go, buy three lady drinks and then bar fine it will be cheaper. However here you spent more time and that same time and drinking action at a go go bar in Bangkok would cost more.
About local talent. Thursday I tried a local haunt near my home for the first time. Small Karaoke bar. I was the only customer for the night. I ended up drinking with 6 out of the 10 ladies working there. I stayed for about 4 hours and drank and ate and bought shots and played drinking games with 100 baht notes. Had a blast. Bill was 10,000 baht. I didn't take a girl form there because by the time I got around to thinking about it, it was time to meet my regular at T-Ded.
Off I went. Arrived there just about 2 AM. How is this Fernando? I sat down with her, ordered a Heineken, talked for 5 minutes? Paid the 310 baht total bill for the beer and 1 hour sit down with the girl, and the 2500 baht total for ST including the room and left. Full GFE and consensual BBFS CIP unlike what I just read about in a report from Thermae . Love T-Ded 99!
JustLoggedInto
01-12-25, 20:38
Whoa there, JLI; so you are telling us that there is new place now open in the building where Nataree used to be, and they have pretty girls? This is very interesting news. Tell us more like what is the setup there? Is it a bordello like Nataree was or a pickup bar like Thermae? In it's day, Nataree was a meat market, but was a great place because they had a ton of young, pretty, girls from the north before the authorities shut it down). It's location never deterred me from going, but then I used to go Kings Castle 1 & 2, Patpong at least once a week and I didn't care if I had to travel all the way from Thong Lo to get there. I will always go the extra mile for pretty girls and a little variety.Oh let me elaborate. I mean that entire area has a lot of pretty girls, easily at the level of Nana / Soi Cowboy. It's just kinda far to get there. I've seen some cute girls at Emanual and Poseidon and there was a ton at some place called Lords (which shut down) and Nataree (which shut down) but those girls didn't disappear they just jump to a nearby spot on that big street.
ElDoradoNola83
01-13-25, 02:30
My mongering is limited to places where it is legal or defacto legal (Germany, Czech, Spain, Netherlands, and Australia). So it was organized so to speak. What are the best massage parlors in the Nana / Asok / Soi Cowboy area? Stupid question but in those countries, I could pay with credit card. Is that even possible in Thailand?
I see some reports of air quality and talent levels. I can confirm there were some rancid smells in BKK I've never experienced before and it was generally more dirty than Hong Kong. As to air quality, hard to judge as most cities have bad air quality, riding in the open taxi 3 wheelers you can def sense the bad air quality more because of the fumes. As for talent, I also was a bit disappointed, still mongerable, obviously, but they were fewer and far between than I had anticipated. But as many others have written, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My first stop in Bangkok was Aya Massage, straight off the plane, shower, spritz, taxi. Interestingly this was one of my best experiences of the trip. The mama sans had an ipad menu LOL. But this place is reasonably priced 2000 baht, which I've realized is a fair going wage + a nice tip. The mamasan brought out all the girls. It's always a bit awkward when they put on this dog and pony show, but it is effective. I chose this tall one named, she was very cute and timid and was happy to be selected, which I've also realized is an important indicator of the experience. In the room I did not realize how much of a tank this Thai girl had, it was incredible. We skipped the massage and got right to it. I only purchased a happy ending but we boom boomed. Not sure if this is common, she was very complimentary of me, but you also got to throw some game on these situations, even if it's all body language and flirting. I tipped Alina 1000 baht. I think tipping is important for the general economy, we need to incentivize good service, because it's not always great. Keep reading.
The next place I went was Snow White. This place was a bit more grimey. But the lore here is that these girls are a bit more down for whatever. I had a couple beers at The Game before I cruised in, which I highly suggest BTW, just to take the edge off, and it allows you to put some mileage down. I went in about 6 pm, so there were only 3 girls working, but one was pretty cute, high cheek bones and big lips. This was also pretty enjoyable, because I took my time. I was so jacked up landing in BKK and turned on by the first girls tank I didn't use all my time, but I did go two rounds with her. At Snow White we had real sex and it was pretty good. Word for the streets, most girls are not into Greek, I've tried with a bunch, so you really got to be direct when you roll in that's what you want. Fee was 2000 baht and I tipped 1000.
One night I went to check out the real Nana Plaza. Fucking hell. This place is a zoo. I mean it's one of the most disgusting yet stimulating places on earth. Honestly these types of places are not my speed, this is Costco, I prefer boutique. But I had to do it, since I'the read about Billboard and Rainbows on here. This place is like an American strip mall, it's like 4 floors high, you shaped and you walk in through a security check. Each floor has various strip clubs. I went to Billboards, the music was blasting and there is a soapy bowl where topless women play with each other and the other side has a rotating platform, where girls wear bikinis and have numbers on them and you tell the Mamasan who you want and they come sit with you.
Word for the streets, bring low bills of cash everywhere, because ALL these bitches have their hands out for tips. I mean it got so fucking annoying in Phuket I just started telling people no tip straight to their face. I'm fine tipping the girls for sex, but everyone has their hands out at these super commercial joints, from the mamasan, to the waiter, to the cashier, it gets excessive.
Billboards was the most expensive and the most mid experience, this is where the pros are, no semi's, no friendies. It's like going to a fucking car dealership. 5000 baht and 1000 baht of that goes to the manasan, then you got to shell out drinks for the girls and tip the drunk ass waiters for bringing the drink. So if you have like 5 beers you are digging into your pockets constantly. They don't have rooms so you got to do the most gross walk of shame to a sex hotel down the street, which in Bangkok, just use your imagination on what that's like. Hotel is pretty cheap.
The sex was mid here, the girl was stoned af supposedly, her friend told me later, but she was really fun and flirty but the sex was lazy. I think she even gave me a look when I went to do doggy and forget anal, oh lord no. I guess I'm not as hard core as some of the mongers on here that lay out exactly what they want, I like to keep the experience a surprise.
The absolute worst experience of my fucking life was at I believe Addict Massage, I went to Mango first but the girls looked bad standing outside, so I walked down, to a red Chinese looking place. This was 2300 baht plus another 300 baht I think for the room. The mamasan asked who I wanted and these girls were not that sweet, but this lean tall girl with straight hair and a great rack, was walking out for her break or something and I chose her, thinking she'the be happy to get a customer, but wrong move, this ***** was the worst, had attitude, was so sexually mechanical and actually told me no doggy style, just laid supine the entire time. I was so shook by the bad service, I just finished as fast as I could and bounced.
I know there are some dawgs on here that get these girls to do all sorts of wild shit in the room. Idk how they do it because the language barrier is so steep and I don't like to be pushy.
Soi Cowboy was the last night and it was a pretty fun experience, less crazy than Nana plaza and hotter girls. I did have a little situation with the sans maybe it was the papasan. I had to check his ass. Note for all the beginner mongers, never never bring out a fucking credit card. Rule #1 always use cash and always have clothing with pockets that allows you to stash and retrieve cash quickly and discreetly.
My boy gave the san his card at some point when these girls were sitting on our laps and trying to get in our pockets. I didn't see it. Then the bill comes and it's like 10 k baht and we had like two beers. He's a rookie and not a monger, poor guy broke his cherry at Billboards of all places. Anyway I took the bill back to the sans and got them to lower it, they tried to argue but I was firm. I don't mind supporting this sex economy and overpaying here and there but I won't be shaken down. What's also so funny at these places is there is barely any security, LOL. In the US you wouldn't even get to set foot close to a boss at a strip club.
Exactly. This has been the rule for 40 plus years. The girls will respect you more if you are dressed in what they consider to be indicative of a higher social standing.
Flip flops or barefoot sandals are another class indicator. Folks that wear shoes in public are simply viewed to be higher class. Thais are very class conscious.
I don't make the rules, I just follow them. What Goatscrot says is absolutely correct.
ProTip: Nothing is more fun on your first mongering trip that getting your foot cut up and then infected. Make sure then you wear flip flops while walking drunk down Soi Nana. I have never worn open toed sandals of flip flops in SE Asia outside my home. Never in 40 years. I like my toes and I don't get free health care. Its a basic health measure.Yes, sandals / shoes are another class indicator. In fact the feet attire worn are probably more important than the shorts / long trousers; not just for the impression they give, but also for health and safety in this environment. I wear sandals (never flip flops) in and around my home, but always wear proper shoes if I'm going into town.
Newton York
01-13-25, 08:43
Before I begin my rant, let me just say that I've traveled to Thailand more than 12 times stretching back to my first trip back in '98. When I lived in Singapore in the mid-2000's, Thailand was a frequent destination for getaway weekends, etc. I recently got the DTV visa for the purpose of testing the waters for longer stays because in the past, I've really enjoyed Bangkok's cosmopolitan mix of dining, shopping, leisurely activities, cost of living, etc. My last trip was last year and I enjoyed myself.
What happened?
I haven't had a breath of fresh air since I arrived over a month ago. I've grown accustomed to the occasional wafting of future air from the canals or the sewer grates, But I thought I was quite a depth in knowing which areas to avoid and bypassing risky spots. But the air on this trip has been unbearable. Not a day has gone by where on multiple occasions, I haven't felt the urge to hurl the contents of my stomach due to the stench. My throat is raw due to the effects of air pollution that reminds me of India or Egypt. For the first time in my life, I've resorted to walking around with a mask on and even that is just borderline effective. On the 200 m walk back from the local restaurant to my Thonglor boutique hotel, Tears came to my eyes as I watched mothers walk their young ones out for a Sunday stroll, and the only thing I could think about was the irreparable damage they were doing to their young lungs.
I have traveled here in January and February before so I thought I was ready for what I knew was the bad season. But this is unreal. Am I overly sensitive or has anyone else noticed the severity?
I originally had the intention of staying here for three or four months, but now I'm looking for an escape. I tried going to Phuket. That was abysmal. My first mistake was going to Rawai which is a complete shit hole. Nai Harn beach smelled like raw sewage. I tried going swimming in Kata and Karon, but the sea lice in both had me running out of the water. I left Phuket five days before the end of my prepaid stay.
From a hobbyist perspective. It also seems to me that the quality of talent in Nana, Cowboy and Patpong has seriously gone downhill. As early as last year, I was getting great action from 7's, 8's and occasional 9's. This year, I've barely managed to locate an 8. Most are dark-skinned 6's that locals wouldn't even bother with. All the girls have decent quality seemed to have gone to the Japanese and Korean KTV's. Even T-Ded 99 seemed to have higher caliber girls than most of the go-go's in Nana.
I know I'm going to get flamed. Have at it. But as someone who's thoroughly enjoyed himself here over the years.
On a (hopefully) more positive note. Can anyone let me know if the air quality in KL or Singapore is markedly better than Bangkok? I remembered being so, but I know they also suffer some smog during this season.I think you're being a bit sensitive there chief. What you're describing doesn't sound like Bangkok at all. Last time I was there, it was fine. Next thing you'd be saying that Bangkok floods every now and then. Nothing bad happens in Paradise. And Bangkok is Paradise. Don't make it out to be bad just cause you're lucky enough to be there. I'd do anything to get back there. Sell my soul even but no takers so far.
Also, who swims in the waters off Phuket or Pattaya anyway? It's always been full of sewage and gross. That's like trying to swim in any of the canals of Bangkok. No one should do it. Everyone has known this for years now.
I do agree with you that Nana, Cowboy has gone downhill. But that's been the case for years, and it coincides with the increase of the bar fine prices too. Look, whoever you are bub, you're one lucky dude to be able to be in the Paradise on earth that's Thailand, just accept your good fortune, and don't feel bad about it. Think about the rest of us unlucky fucks that are stuck where it's ridiculously cold now. Here I am, trapped in a job where though I'm quite good at, my millennial colleagues hates me with a passion cause of my old ass ways. Trapped, wishing for death everyday.
But you, you're in paradise. And you're worried about a little smog? Dude, you're surrounded by hot pussy. And you're wasting time trying to swim in the dirty waters of Thailand? You got all your priorities wrong chief. Focus on the pussy. That's what Thailand is for. Pussy.
Geez man, talk about priorities. You have access to plenty of affordable, hot pussy and you're worried about the quality of air? Wow. Anyway, if you're headed to Singapore, you should know the best game in town is Geylang, but most of the chicks there are Thai anyway, so why even go to Singapore? I've been all over South East Asia, mongered all over the world, and Thailand is tough to beat when it comes to this hobby. It's got the best combination of everything. Price, chicks, food, safety. I know deep inside, you know that Thailand is it, and you're just going through this thing now where you wanna make excuses to leave Thailand, cause you're afraid to settle there. But ask yourself. Truly ask yourself. Is there anyplace better than Thailand? None. No better place.
Last night I, through no fault of my own, ended up having two girls coming, one after the other. One at 00:30 (a repeat with Miss 172 cm who I posted a photo of earlier), and the other one, my first african girl. A 22 year old who arrived at 01:30, and who looked so hooish, with a neon-green dress and high heels, that I felt slightly embarrassed as she stalked past the security guards and towards me. What would my mother think?
She said it was her third day in Thailand, from Kenya, and was a good fuck with a pleasant enough personality.
Common consensu here is mostly that what one guy pays does not affect the other guy. To show what I think is an example of the opposite: I repeated with miss Africa once in the early afternoon. That session was similarly good to the first one:
Arrived, showers, on to the bed, and then, after she rather too quickly had enough of sucking my dick IMO, gets on top of me.
Her: Where is condom? Me: In 7-11.
Her: You will go get it? Me: Maybe tomorrow.
[laughs and slides on top of my dick and we have a good session.]
A week or so later I ask her if she want's to come over again "now" (again early afternoon):
She: Ok, but today price is 2000
Me: sorry, cannot.
She: ok, bye
So I'm guessing she has enough customers paying her more (2000 and up), and so she'd rather twiddle her thumbs waiting for one of them than repeating with me for 1500, even while her pussy is idle.
Also I probably misheard her "today is three weeks" as "today is three days" the first time.
Alexandra2525
01-13-25, 11:31
Thanks to all those that have replied to my dress code question. I'll wear long pants and some 'posh' sneakers.
I'm only in BK for two nights so it's not the end of the world.
I now have another random question!
My first time mongering in Thailand next week and it appears that a lot of the girls (young and old) have braces. I don't think I ever dated a girl with braces growing up so have no experience of them. A few questions please?
Is DFK a problem with them?
How about BBBJ?
Are they more likely to have bad breath?
Thank you for helping with my random questions!
This is not a report but rather a question. I have been in Bangkok about a week. I have gone to Thermae, nana and soi cowboy a couple of massage and blow job joints and have picked up at least one lady each day sometimes 2. That's on top of the broader pool of ladies that I do lady drink interviews with. Of all the ladies I spoken to and or brought back to my hotel for deeper conversation I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from Isan but they generally seem to be the hotest, at least for my taste. I. e. Darker. I'm already trying to work out how to come back and where to go besides Bangkok.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-13-25, 13:11
Looking for educated opinions as far as areas in which to stay. I am looking for university girls, either freelance or 'regular' girls to meet, sideline girls such as those available on fiwifans, mall trolling for dates, and onlines. Thinking about the Asok area near Terminal 21 but open to other areas where there are lots of students. Please don't say near Nana or near Soi Cowboy as I really don't have much interest in that scene. I've been to Bangkok many times before but not recently. Thanks in advance.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-13-25, 13:19
I think you're being a bit sensitive there chief. What you're describing doesn't sound like Bangkok at all. Last time I was there, it was fine. Next thing you'd be saying that Bangkok floods every now and then. Nothing bad happens in Paradise. And Bangkok is Paradise. Don't make it out to be bad just cause you're lucky enough to be there. I'd do anything to get back there. Sell my soul even but no takers so far.
Also, who swims in the waters off Phuket or Pattaya anyway? It's always been full of sewage and gross. That's like trying to swim in any of the canals of Bangkok. No one should do it. Everyone has known this for years now.
I do agree with you that Nana, Cowboy has gone downhill. But that's been the case for years, and it coincides with the increase of the bar fine prices too. Look, whoever you are bub, you're one lucky dude to be able to be in the Paradise on earth that's Thailand, just accept your good fortune, and don't feel bad about it. Think about the rest of us unlucky fucks that are stuck where it's ridiculously cold now. Here I am, trapped in a job where though I'm quite good at, my millennial colleagues hates me with a passion cause of my old ass ways. Trapped, wishing for death everyday.
But you, you're in paradise. And you're worried about a little smog? Dude, you're surrounded by hot pussy. And you're wasting time trying to swim in the dirty waters of Thailand? You got all your priorities wrong chief. Focus on the pussy. That's what Thailand is for. Pussy.
Geez man, talk about priorities. You have access to plenty of affordable, hot pussy and you're worried about the quality of air? Wow. Anyway, if you're headed to Singapore, you should know the best game in town is Geylang, but most of the chicks there are Thai anyway, so why even go to Singapore? I've been all over South East Asia, mongered all over the world, and Thailand is tough to beat when it comes to this hobby. It's got the best combination of everything. Price, chicks, food, safety. I know deep inside, you know that Thailand is it, and you're just going through this thing now where you wanna make excuses to leave Thailand, cause you're afraid to settle there. But ask yourself. Truly ask yourself. Is there anyplace better than Thailand? None. No better place.Totally agree. If one is worried about a little air pollution they didn't do their research and has no business being in Bangkok. Some people just refuse to be happy.
HorseTrader
01-13-25, 14:26
This is not a report but rather a question. I have been in Bangkok about a week. I have gone to Thermae, nana and soi cowboy a couple of massage and blow job joints and have picked up at least one lady each day sometimes 2. That's on top of the broader pool of ladies that I do lady drink interviews with. Of all the ladies I spoken to and or brought back to my hotel for deeper conversation I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from Isan but they generally seem to be the hotest, at least for my taste. I. e. Darker. I'm already trying to work out how to come back and where to go besides Bangkok.Isaan is not a province, it is the northeast region of Thailand. Several different provinces. Primarily poor farmers. The girls can earn the most money for families by going away and becoming prostitutes. Many times the girls tell family that they are going to Rayong or Chon Buri to work in factory, but the girls really go to Bangkok or Pattaya and become hookers. Many times the family knows exactly what the girls do for money. It is often an accepted career choice.
Often the bar girl has children and grandmother cares for children while girl sends her bar earned money to mother.
Mr Enternational
01-13-25, 15:09
I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from IsanAs someone else said Isan is an entire region. You have to tell them "where, Isan big" for them to give you a better idea of the province and city.
The chicks to my liking tend to be from Buriram or Surin. The chicks "in the biz" go to the tourist areas of Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket to be in the biz. They are back home farming, not hooring around.
I might take a short trip to BKK soon, and after searching and reading some reports over the past few months, I'm curious to try a gentleman's club in BKK. From what I understand, the main players are:
Tara Entertainment: Here, you can book a room starting from 3,500 THB for 2-3 hours, plus the cost of the lady. You can enjoy your time with her there, including food, drinks, and other activities. The cost for the ladies starts from 5,000 THB and goes up, and the quality is generally good.
T-ded-99: Similar to Tara but at a cheaper price. Rooms might cost around 1,000 THB for the same duration, and ladies start from 2,500 THB for "boom boom. " However, you'll need to go to an outside hotel.
Pimp: This is the luxury option, where rooms start at 8,000 THB, and "boom boom" is not guaranteed. If the lady agrees, you'll need to take her to an outside hotel, with additional costs starting from 8,000 THB.
Japanese Street, or Soi Taniya: This area is full of karaoke bars. Prices vary and can range from 2,000 to 3,000 THB for a room for a couple of hours, plus the cost of the lady and the hotel if she agrees to come.
To recap, for spending 2-3 hours with a lady and "boom boom," the cost would be around 10,000 THB at Tara, 4,000-5,000 THB at T-ded-99, and around 20,000 THB at Pimp. Japanese Street prices vary, starting from around 8,000 THB. Am I correct?
Additionally, while individual experiences may vary, the "customer experience" is likely the best at Pimp, followed by Tara in second place. T-ded-99 and Japanese Street seem to be at a similar level. I've read about other places like Black Caviar or LaBelle, but they seem less interesting to me.
Any comments? Thanks for your opinion.
Enjoy!
Looking for educated opinions as far as areas in which to stay. I am looking for university girls, either freelance or 'regular' girls to meet, sideline girls such as those available on fiwifans, mall trolling for dates, and onlines. Thinking about the Asok area near Terminal 21 but open to other areas where there are lots of students. Please don't say near Nana or near Soi Cowboy as I really don't have much interest in that scene. I've been to Bangkok many times before but not recently. Thanks in advance.If you are serious about meeting regular university girls, not talking about bargirls, freelancers, Thermae part timers, fiwfans escapees, etc, away from the Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza scene, honest to goodness educated little hotties who might or might not have ever met a farang before or ever driven down Soi 4, not hustling for free drinks or hanging out in a bar at all then the hottest Thai social scene in Bangkok is on and around Banthat Thong Road between Rama 1 and Rama IV, about 5 km from Nana Plaza.
Every night of the week it is packed with university girls and, well, boys too, primarily from nearby Chulalongkorn University. Of course, it is packed the most on the weekends when they add a big night market area. Tons of mostly Asian eateries but a few western style restaurants too, pizza, burgers and so on.
If you really want to test your game with genuine, regular Bangkok university girls who are very, very likely not into the P4P scene, that would be the place right now.
There is no convenient Skytrain or Subway train to the area. So you will want to take a taxi West on Sukhumvit, which becomes Rama 1, past MBK and left at Stadium One, which is Banthat Thong Road. Tell the driver to drop you off at the corner of Chulalongkorn 14 Alley. The restaurant on that corner is Shall We Meet and Eat, which features steaks and pizza. You will then be in the heart of it. Explore around.
As I said, it is a popular regular, family-friendly hangout most any evening after 6 pm but especially packed shoulder-to-shoulder with university girls avoiding doing their homework on the weekends.
There are hotels in the area. I have never stayed in a hotel there but see several moderately priced ones online. Being only 5 km away from Nana Plaza I suppose staying there doesn't totally separate you from that option, too. Although taking a taxi the whole way at prime time would be a traffic nightmare going past all those big shopping malls. Going there I would probably ride the Skytrain from Nana to Siam, transfer at Siam to the National Stadium (MBK) station and then ride a taxi from there.
Thai Friend
01-13-25, 20:44
Thanks to all those that have replied to my dress code question. I'll wear long pants and some 'posh' sneakers.
I'm only in BK for two nights so it's not the end of the world.
I now have another random question!
My first time mongering in Thailand next week and it appears that a lot of the girls (young and old) have braces. I don't think I ever dated a girl with braces growing up so have no experience of them. A few questions please?
Is DFK a problem with them?
How about BBBJ?
Are they more likely to have bad breath?
Thank you for helping with my random questions!This is a necessary question. It was very hard for me to find a 18-20 yr old without braces. It is like a bra. Everybody in this age group has one Many of these girls are just looking for some money to pay of them. DKF is out of question for me. BBBJ may be fine if they take it slow but there is risk of bruises and cuts which can be a gateway for STDs later on your trip. And yes bad breath is almost a certainly due to bacteria build up that is very hard to clean and these are very young girls so they are generally impatient. I had mine gargle mouthwash for a minute but still no luck. I also found these girls provide better discounts so there is that one bright spot.
Looking for educated opinions as far as areas in which to stay. I am looking for university girls, either freelance or 'regular' girls to meet, sideline girls such as those available on fiwifans, mall trolling for dates, and onlines. Thinking about the Asok area near Terminal 21 but open to other areas where there are lots of students. Please don't say near Nana or near Soi Cowboy as I really don't have much interest in that scene. I've been to Bangkok many times before but not recently. Thanks in advance.Freelance uni gals. Might get lucky and see some on fiwfans. But freebies? If you're young, and by Young I mean not much older than 30, handsome, in good shape, dress well, have a little money, and preferably of Asian descent you might have a bit of a shot. Otherwise, don't bother. There are lots of clubs all over the city where younger regular girls hangout. Thonglor and Ekkamai of course, but there are lots of areas outside of the city center with big restaurants bars that are open late. You'll probably have to deal with some pretty bad live music though.
This is not a report but rather a question. I have been in Bangkok about a week. I have gone to Thermae, nana and soi cowboy a couple of massage and blow job joints and have picked up at least one lady each day sometimes 2. That's on top of the broader pool of ladies that I do lady drink interviews with. Of all the ladies I spoken to and or brought back to my hotel for deeper conversation I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from Isan but they generally seem to be the hotest, at least for my taste. I. e. Darker. I'm already trying to work out how to come back and where to go besides Bangkok.As Horse trader has already said, Isaan is actually the region that covers the whole North East of Thailand. There are 20 different provinces there, and roughly a third of the population of Thailand live in that region. It is also, by any metric, the poorest part of Thailand. Agriculture is the largest sector of the economy so most local families are farmers, mainly growing rice. This relative poverty leads to the younger members of any family leaving to earn enough income to help support themselves and especially their family. For young ladies the best prospects are found in the entertainment / nightlife industry, mainly in the tourist areas of Bangkok, Pattaya, and to a lesser extent Phuket. This answers your first question. To answer your second question, there aren't such good prospects for finding ladies on a short trip to Isaan, at least nothing like the scene in Bangkok or Pattaya. There is actually a thread here in the Thailand section dedicated to the "Isaan Region" you could check out for a better idea.
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Mr Enternational
01-14-25, 13:02
You are not going to make them do anything they don't want to do. They will all tell you "no" and close their legs if
you try anything they don't want you to do.And you wonder why the world is fucked up today. Even guys on this board think you need an agreed upon road map and signed contract for fucking a hooker. As in real life, there is also a thing called spontaneity with hookers. Some people can actually fuck without every step carved in stone beforehand.
Looking for educated opinions as far as areas in which to stay. I am looking for university girls, either freelance or 'regular' girls to meet, sideline girls such as those available on fiwifans, mall trolling for dates, and onlines. Thinking about the Asok area near Terminal 21 but open to other areas where there are lots of students. Please don't say near Nana or near Soi Cowboy as I really don't have much interest in that scene. I've been to Bangkok many times before but not recently. Thanks in advance.Goatscrot and Eih Tooms provided sound counsel.
Aside from their advice, I would add Siam Square, which is directly connected to Chulalongkorn University. At lunch times and starting in the afternoon, the girls will be instantly identifiable as uni girls by their uniforms. You will see them eating or browsing the shops. Siam One is a new (er) multi-story mall in Siam Square which caters to your target group.
You will probably need to employ a bit of "game", but should be able to get an idea of their interest in a foreigner fairly quickly with some small talk. From that, do your thing--get a phone number or line or whatever. Just see how it goes.
Lots of hotels in various price ranges nearby to stay at, but you can get to the Siam Center BTS station easily from most parts of the city.
There exist "little black books" of which I am aware that have uni girls up for "fun and profit". But these are generally available only to Thai "affinity" groups. (I know a couple of Thai friends who availed themselves and I probably could have arranged meet-ups, but never did.) I mention this only to confirm that there are uni girls who are (at least minimally) in the game.
Attached is a map for your reference.
Sam.
Expat American
01-14-25, 14:14
Can anyone let me know if the air quality in KL or Singapore is markedly better than Bangkok? I remembered being so, but I know they also suffer some smog during this season.Like everything else in Singapore the air quality is very clean.
EverythingThai
01-14-25, 17:08
And you wonder why the world is fucked up today. Even guys on this board think you need an agreed upon road map and signed contract for fucking a hooker. As in real life, there is also a thing called spontaneity with hookers. Some people can actually fuck without every step carved in stone beforehand.What is spontaneous about this?
on to the bed, with her asking me if I had a condom, which I confirmed.
She asked me again if I had a condom, so I took one out on the drawer next
to the bed and placed it on the pillow next to her, to placate her, before continuing.
The sneaky wench used this opportunity to grab the condom,
and even though I protested and said I would call the police, forced
the condom onto my dick, before jumping on herself.
She bounced on top for a while, before tiring and rolling over on her back again.
So I rolled over too, took off the condom, throwing it on the pillow
next to hear head with a grin, and inserted my dick again.
I didn't feel like delaying things more, so pumped in and out for a few
minutes, before coming inside her pussy. Got the half-expected surprised
look from her, and she said something I can't remember.I'm at a loss. Sorry.
HorseTrader
01-14-25, 17:29
And you wonder why the world is fucked up today. Even guys on this board think you need an agreed upon road map and signed contract for fucking a hooker. As in real life, there is also a thing called spontaneity with hookers. Some people can actually fuck without every step carved in stone beforehand.It's important to have some steps carved in stone before fucking, one of them is to use or not use a condom. You can mutually change at the last moment, but it needs to be mutual consent.
Decades ago my girlfriend pulled off my condom without my knowledge. When we finished, I realized there was no condom and assumed it dropped inside her vagina when I went soft. It turns out that she intentionally took it off during a position change and I didn't realize it. Over the next days we discussed possible pregnancy and she said if pregnant she was keeping the baby. The next day I called the urologist and scheduled a vasectomy.
I was lucky, she was not pregnant. These girls are not always as lucky as me.
Sorry to hear that. Related story: I got a vasectomy in Texas 20 years ago. They asked if I was married, and when I said yes, the wouldn't do the procedure unless my wife came in with me and signed a release. I guess guys getting snipped and not telling their partner is a problem? I thought it was pretty stupid. She ofcourse "signed off".
It's important to have some steps carved in stone before fucking, one of them is to use or not use a condom. You can mutually change at the last moment, but it needs to be mutual consent.
Decades ago my girlfriend pulled off my condom without my knowledge. When we finished, I realized there was no condom and assumed it dropped inside her vagina when I went soft. It turns out that she intentionally took it off during a position change and I didn't realize it. Over the next days we discussed possible pregnancy and she said if pregnant she was keeping the baby. The next day I called the urologist and scheduled a vasectomy.
I was lucky, she was not pregnant. These girls are not always as lucky as me.
Mr Enternational
01-14-25, 18:49
It's important to have some steps carved in stone before fucking, one of them is to use or not use a condom. You can mutually change at the last moment, but it needs to be mutual consent.
Decades ago my girlfriend pulled off my condom without my knowledge. The next day I called the urologist and scheduled a vasectomy.Well yeah. In a situation like that. But in his situation she could clearly see that he removed it. I had a vasectomy 11 years ago. I trick women another way, saying I am going to give them a baby when I know damn well I can't. But with hookers, the only thing I always agree on is time and money. After that it is just like regular people fucking. Things are done on the fly.
Unless it is Tijuana where you also need to agree on her taking her clothes off, number of positions, and everything else that makes it more like having work done on your house instead of fucking.
It's important to have some steps carved in stone before fucking, one of them is to use or not use a condom. You can mutually change at the last moment, but it needs to be mutual consent.
Why does that have to be carved in stone before fucking? Why can you only change it up to the last moment? Why can you not change it when already fucking?
One girl, from fiwfans I think she was, and I had been fucking for a while, before I decided I really wanted to continue fucking her without the condom. She didn't jump at that idea, but said for a 1000 extra I could, "but no CIP". I tried to change her mind about the CIP (I also have a vasectomy so I don't need to worry about that particular thing, but she wasn't sure about that, and I don't blame her), but she refused, and so I declined her offer and we continued with the condom.
Very little about sex is carved in stone, and most things can change at any time.
Goatscrot and Eih Tooms provided sound counsel.
Aside from their advice, I would add Siam Square, which is directly connected to Chulalongkorn University. At lunch times and starting in the afternoon, the girls will be instantly identifiable as uni girls by their uniforms. You will see them eating or browsing the shops. Siam One is a new (er) multi-story mall in Siam Square which caters to your target group.
For those not yet feeling ready for the hi(-gher)-so babes of Chulalongkorn and want to try something more low-class, and closer to our local farang slum, the lower end of Soi 19, a 15 minute walk down the right-hand side of Terminal 21, has SWU (Srinakharinwirot University) and it's weekly market each Friday evening (or Thursday. Can't remember for sure what day it was).
Actually GG, speaking of economical accommodation, I now remember seeing some dorm there that, based on the posters, made me think it might be open for a non-student gentleman such as yourself too. Unless ElMexicant has booked all the non-student rooms for himself already that is.
I had a really great experience with a girl named Prada from Exotic Massage Bangkok. I was feeling a little under the weather and didn't want to venture out. Nothing interesting on the apps, and my old favorite escort place is apparently out of business. So I took a risk. It was a shot in the dark, but turned out being one of my better Bangkok experiences in quite a while.
I contacted them on line and she was at my room about two hours later. This women is a real sex pot, complete porn star experience. As soon as she came in the door she got busy. DFK, throating, anal. VERY enthusiastic and hardcore. Seemed like she would be up for about anything.
Her body is ridiculous. I mean she looks like she is built for porn. Matches well with her attitude and skills. Then she changes gear. After I blew my load, she gave me an EXCELLENT massage that was truly pro level.
I've been in and out of Bangkok for 20 years or so (don't really want to do the math, I am getting old). It's become a lot of "same old, same old. " This was a fantastic experience. Totally worth the 2600 Baht. Website is https://exoticmassagebangkok.com You can see Prada under 'girls'.
For those not yet feeling ready for the hi(-gher)-so babes of Chulalongkorn and want to try something more low-class, and closer to our local farang slum, the lower end of Soi 19, a 15 minute walk down the right-hand side of Terminal 21, has SWU (Srinakharinwirot University) and it's weekly market each Friday evening (or Thursday. Can't remember for sure what day it was).I forgot about SWU. LOL I first visited that campus 30 years ago and I don't recall any building more than two floors. The last time I was there was probably 25 years ago. Looking at this video, I'the get lost today! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v_hzaWs3rI.
I have a friend who works there. She confirmed that the market is open on Tuesdays and Thursdays. There also be night market. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ9fUlsQA6E
There was a very large canteen / cafeteria on campus where I had lunch a couple of times. Cheap, edible and featuring some "eye candy". I have no idea if it is in the same place, but, if not, has surely been reincarnated somewhere on campus. (Maybe a question to "break the ice" with a few damsels.) It was open to all: staff, students and visitors.
Correction to what you posted. SWU is at the end of Soi 23 off of Sukhumvit (not Soi 19). Map attached. So after visiting SWU and you depart with blue balls, you can stop at one the massage joints along Soi 23 heading back to Sukhumvit.
Sam.
ElMexicant
01-15-25, 04:26
So a guy writes a long detailed field report with BBFS. Dudes complain. But same dudes rally around the idea of buying tons of alcohol to intoxicate a hooker so they can get BBFS. I've heard of white knights but this brings the whole Captain Save a Ho to the next level.
And finally they speaking on the Chulas and dorms, I so often mention about. Somebody once said, you got to look deep in his words to get the good stuff. And the place that they seek assistance hasn't been mentioned. All I can say is that it serves as a 24 hour study hall as well. Shit I've seen them sleeping there at 3 am.
All it takes is an invite for a warm bed and an extra 1000 baht for their studies to get them home. And when the Chulas get done with the deed, they go beg for forgiveness at the temple near by.
Bring your A game or end up chained to a Thai police station floor. I just pin 1000 baht to my shirt, walk around, and see who jumps. Little bicep flexing here and there. Pretend it's your fake birthday like the bar girls do get money. LOL.
I had a really great experience with a girl named Prada from Exotic Massage Bangkok. I was feeling a little under the weather and didn't want to venture out. Nothing interesting on the apps, and my old favorite escort place is apparently out of business. So I took a risk. It was a shot in the dark, but turned out being one of my better Bangkok experiences in quite a while.
I contacted them on line and she was at my room about two hours later. This women is a real sex pot, complete porn star experience. As soon as she came in the door she got busy. DFK, throating, anal. VERY enthusiastic and hardcore. Seemed like she would be up for about anything.
Her body is ridiculous. I mean she looks like she is built for porn. Matches well with her attitude and skills. Then she changes gear. After I blew my load, she gave me an EXCELLENT massage that was truly pro level.
I've been in and out of Bangkok for 20 years or so (don't really want to do the math, I am getting old). It's become a lot of "same old, same old. " This was a fantastic experience. Totally worth the 2600 Baht. Website is https://exoticmassagebangkok.com You can see Prada under 'girls'.How much older and heavier, how much photoshopping in your judgement.
The post before mine inspired me to walk 100 meters from my hotel to Exotic Massage shortly after it opened today. Three girls were working. The best-looking one was Lucky, who was also the friendliest, so my choice was obvious. I got a VIP room for 70 minutes: 3000 baht.
Lucky looked very young, but that was not really accurate. She is 30, with a 7-year-old child. You would never know unless she told you. She has exactly the body type I love: smallish but not tiny natural tits, flat belly, no baby damage, nice ass, clean-shaven. Just a delight. Her English is quite good. We had a nice conversation, and I practiced my Thai. I let her take the lead sexually, and she knew just what to do. While she ran the bath, we enjoyed a nice 69, lots of mutual nipple play, then CFS in various positions. After I finished, we got in the bath, and she washed me. We had time for me to take a second shot, but that wasn't in the cards. Did she come? Who knows? It's certainly possible, and she acted like our time together was good for her, beyond the money. I gave her a nice tip and was on my way. Highly recommended.
Bruce.
Alexandra2525
01-15-25, 11:40
This is a necessary question. It was very hard for me to find a 18-20 yr old without braces. It is like a bra. Everybody in this age group has one Many of these girls are just looking for some money to pay of them. DKF is out of question for me. BBBJ may be fine if they take it slow but there is risk of bruises and cuts which can be a gateway for STDs later on your trip. And yes bad breath is almost a certainly due to bacteria build up that is very hard to clean and these are very young girls so they are generally impatient. I had mine gargle mouthwash for a minute but still no luck. I also found these girls provide better discounts so there is that one bright spot.Thank you.
That's what I suspected and it's a real shame because I actually like the braces look and so many of the girls have them. But I don't want to be DFK'ing some bird with bad breath or end up with abrasions on my dick.
Thanks for your feedback.
Mr Enternational
01-15-25, 12:35
That's what I suspected and it's a real shame because I actually like the braces look and so many of the girls have them. But I don't want to be DFK'ing some bird with bad breath or end up with abrasions on my dick.It is funny how much your mileage can vary because none of that has been my experience.
Steve 9696
01-15-25, 17:10
Thank you.
That's what I suspected and it's a real shame because I actually like the braces look and so many of the girls have them. But I don't want to be DFK'ing some bird with bad breath or end up with abrasions on my dick.
Thanks for your feedback.Not in Thailand but Brasil and USA I have been with several braces girls in the last two years. No bad breath. DFK great. No nicks or cuts or even the sense that they have braces when BBBJ. Can't guarantee your experience but it's been no problem at all for me.
HorseTrader
01-15-25, 17:38
This is a necessary question. It was very hard for me to find a 18-20 yr old without braces. It is like a bra. Everybody in this age group has one Many of these girls are just looking for some money to pay of them. DKF is out of question for me. BBBJ may be fine if they take it slow but there is risk of bruises and cuts which can be a gateway for STDs later on your trip. And yes bad breath is almost a certainly due to bacteria build up that is very hard to clean and these are very young girls so they are generally impatient. I had mine gargle mouthwash for a minute but still no luck. I also found these girls provide better discounts so there is that one bright spot.Perhaps 25-30% of my sessions are with girls wearing braces and I've never experienced anything like what is described in this post. No bad breath. No bruises, no cuts. Normal amount of DFK. Extra oral care is required by people who wear braces, but that has never interfered with a session.
Correction to what you posted. SWU is at the end of Soi 23 off of Sukhumvit (not Soi 19). Map attached. So after visiting SWU and you depart with blue balls, you can stop at one the massage joints along Soi 23 heading back to Sukhumvit.
Sam.I did indeed remember wrong. I was actually thinking of Soi 21, down the road from Terminal 21, and a much nicer side to enter from, but one can as you say also enter from the other side, soi 23.
Don't understand the stuff about braces. They don't suck cock with their teeth. Lips and tongue does the deed!
Don't understand the stuff about braces. They don't suck cock with their teeth. Lips and tongue does the deed!The lips and tongue are both a tease it's the throat that counts.
Thank you.
That's what I suspected and it's a real shame because I actually like the braces look and so many of the girls have them. But I don't want to be DFK'ing some bird with bad breath or end up with abrasions on my dick.
Thanks for your feedback.In America, as teenagers, we learn to swap spit with chicks who wear braces. And the metal on the mouth never is annoying when you have her be burrowed in your lap in the front seat of your daddy's 1968 Chevy.
Perhaps they don't have orthodontists in India?
Keen Eye Joe 1
01-16-25, 01:46
This is a necessary question. It was very hard for me to find a 18-20 yr old without braces. It is like a bra. Everybody in this age group has one Many of these girls are just looking for some money to pay of them. DKF is out of question for me. BBBJ may be fine if they take it slow but there is risk of bruises and cuts which can be a gateway for STDs later on your trip. And yes bad breath is almost a certainly due to bacteria build up that is very hard to clean and these are very young girls so they are generally impatient. I had mine gargle mouthwash for a minute but still no luck. I also found these girls provide better discounts so there is that one bright spot.For me, braces have never impacted the quality and aftermath of my lovemaking.
Until Tuesday night.
I'm currently passing through Manila. While sitting in a small hostess club in the Caucasian-bar section of town, I bought a teeth-crusted gal a few ladies drinks. Eventually, I paid the 3000 peso bar fine and took her out bar-hopping, where she became horny-drunk.
Upon closing the hotel room door, she immediately began "attacking" me. Turns out she is an awesomely voracious and passionate kisser. Problem is, after taking a shower yesterday morning, I felt a moderate level of sensitivity on my upper lip, on the boundary between the fleshy and hair-growing portions.
At first I thought, "OMG, please don't let it be my first canker sore", which would have absolutely devastated me. Luckily, close inspection revealed it was a good-sized linear cut, which had to have come from the braces while she was sucking and grinding my lips in a way which was seemingly sexy for her but did nothing for me.
Problem is it's now turning a brighter shade of red and has become quite noticeable as it begins to heal. Passers-by will probably size it up as a Herpes sore. Guess I could blame it on using an old stick razor if anyone comments. Regardless, guess I'm out of commission for a few days.
So buddy, I now share your concern. Good luck finding what you want.
Until Tuesday night.
Imoderate level of sensitivity on my upper lip, on the boundary between the fleshy and hair-growing portions.
.Be glad it wasnt your dick.
Expat American
01-16-25, 08:12
This is a necessary question. It was very hard for me to find a 18-20 yr old without braces. It is like a bra. Everybody in this age group has one Many of these girls are just looking for some money to pay of them. DKF is out of question for me. BBBJ may be fine if they take it slow but there is risk of bruises and cuts which can be a gateway for STDs later on your trip. And yes bad breath is almost a certainly due to bacteria build up that is very hard to clean and these are very young girls so they are generally impatient. I had mine gargle mouthwash for a minute but still no luck. I also found these girls provide better discounts so there is that one bright spot.You think that's hard. Try finding one without a bunch of hideous tattoos that cover entire portions of their otherwise lovely fair and smooth skin.
there are uni girls who are (at least minimally) in the game.
I read something about this on another site. They said you can get a hot, young sideline girl for 5000 a month.
That seems very unlikely to me.
Totally agree. If one is worried about a little air pollution they didn't do their research and has no business being in Bangkok. Some people just refuse to be happy.Just relocated permenantly to Bangkok and have the same concerns so I installed the IQAir app on my phone to monitor the air quality in real time throughout Bangkok (and the rest of the world). I also bought an Ikea PM2. 5 sensor and HEPA air filter that set me back about $100 USD total. I now have PM2. 5 in my Airbnb at around 5 ("safe" is 9 or less) while its 45 (unhealthy) outside. I bought some 3 M and-95 masks for when I go out that filter 95% of the PM2. 5 so I'm good to go and enjoying Pussy Paradise. Its cheap and amazing here so don't let a little smog get in the way of your fun when there are plenty of workarounds.
Llantarnam
01-16-25, 22:31
I read something about this on another site. They said you can get a hot, young sideline girl for 5000 a month.Maybe they meant per day?
Maybe they meant per day?This is copy pasta from their site; Not sure if I'm allowed to link it or even mention it.
Sideline girls are like Giks (mistress) with the difference that you pay them a fixed amount per month and can call them whenever you feel like.
Prices: Negotiable and depending on the girl from 3,000 to 5,000 Baht a month.
bad breath.I used to bang a girl in AC who was an 11/10 physically but her breath could knock you down from 100 yards away.
She also came in my room once and immediately said 'I need poopoo', then dropped her pants and took a shit.
Before I had a chance to object.
Made myself LOL writing that.
FernandoAlonso
01-16-25, 23:24
I'm similar, but yikes. I'm too spoiled to enjoy unheated showers at night and did not know about that.The lady claimed to take a shower later back at the club. Yikes. So yeah it is rather basic. LT increased from 6 k to 7 k until 8 am instead of 6 am. So not economically for me. But that girl was a 8 or 9 in my book. Glad I did it. Return? May e but surely better in a group.
FernandoAlonso
01-16-25, 23:42
Great report Fernando. Did you happen to notice all the girls sitting along the back corridor and the ones at the far end? They normally have about 200 total. 5000 Baht is not a lot to spend for the time you were there. Of course if you go into a go go, buy three lady drinks and then bar fine it will be cheaper. However here you spent more time and that same time and drinking action at a go go bar in Bangkok would cost more.
About local talent. Thursday I tried a local haunt near my home for the first time. Small Karaoke bar. I was the only customer for the night. I ended up drinking with 6 out of the 10 ladies working there. I stayed for about 4 hours and drank and ate and bought shots and played drinking games with 100 baht notes. Had a blast. Bill was 10,000 baht. I didn't take a girl form there because by the time I got around to thinking about it, it was time to meet my regular at T-Ded.
Off I went. Arrived there just about 2 AM. How is this Fernando? I sat down with her, ordered a Heineken, talked for 5 minutes? Paid the 310 baht total bill for the beer and 1 hour sit down with the girl, and the 2500 baht total for ST including the room and left. Full GFE and consensual BBFS CIP unlike what I just read about in a report from Thermae . Love T-Ded 99!Yes, I picked up my girl actually at the very end of the back room near the toilet. Thanks confirming that you can just go in, have a drink (my beer was 170 BTW), pay the 1 hour sit down and go for the NY Hotel. Will try that. They have nice girls. Mine was great and I would have loved to repeat but to mercenary.
I read something about this on another site. They said you can get a hot, young sideline girl for 5000 a month.
Maybe they meant per day?I know this is the Bangkok thread, and I live out in the Isaan sticks, but 20,000 per month will *easily* get you a screaming hot full time live in girlfriend / maid / cook and yeah, you get the picture. True, there will be other complications that come with that, but if you wanted to cheap Charlie it you could probably get it to down around the 10 k mark without too much trouble.
That's hardcore expat math though. For a full time girlfriend on a two week tourist vacation in Bangkok, 5000 per day sounds a little closer to the mark.
ElMexicant
01-17-25, 07:44
Love me some perky DDs anytime! Bring your A+ game. I did it with just 2 Coke Zeros. Got to keep up my girlish waistline.
Horny Cock
01-17-25, 08:33
I tried Thermae Cafe in my June trip last year. I would like to try out the other 2 in my upcoming trip. How's the quality comparisons among these 3 sources for freelancers?
This is copy pasta from their site; Not sure if I'm allowed to link it or even mention it.
Sideline girls are like Giks (mistress) with the difference that you pay them a fixed amount per month and can call them whenever you feel like.
Prices: Negotiable and depending on the girl from 3,000 to 5,000 Baht a month.Forget that. That's just some confused guy talking nonsense.
Sideline girls are not like giks + monthly pay. Our tourist-equivalent of dek sideline would be thaifriendly freelancers. With the prices for short-time / long-time in Bangkok being around 3,000-5,000, it's obvious the above quoted monthly price is nonsense too. Or try suggesting to some TF-girl that you will pay her 5000 once, and then you'll just ring her up whenever you want a free fuck for the next 30 days. See what she thinks for a quick reality check.
EverythingThai
01-17-25, 10:34
Yes, I picked up my girl actually at the very end of the back room near the toilet. Thanks confirming that you can just go in, have a drink (my beer was 170 BTW), pay the 1 hour sit down and go for the NY Hotel. Will try that. They have nice girls. Mine was great and I would have loved to repeat but to mercenary.Nice. If you ever want to go in as a group. Feel free to hit me up on PM. I'm a regular in this place and have been one for 10 years.
On a side note guys I would just like to mention a few things about Fernando Alonso. I first saw him posting 10 years ago on the China boards. He is a legend. His post count of 819 over a very long period of time may not outwardly reflect that. However. Ever wonder why? It's because when he posts, he posts a no nonsense report that's clear and concise and gives excellent advice, all the while never getting hung up on what others post and he never gets into online battles. Just clear and concise reports and gentlemanly comments complimenting others on their reports, a lot of my mongering habits and tactics I learnt from him.
Kudos to you my ISG brother. We should all learn from you.
Mr Enternational
01-17-25, 11:46
Or try suggesting to some TF-girl that you will pay her 5000 once, and then you'll just ring her up whenever you want a free fuck for the next 30 days. See what she thinks for a quick reality check.I have a buddy in Pattaya that does that, and 3000-5000 is exactly what he gives them. And I am not talking about for short time. In many cases guys saying what can not be done have never tried doing it.
I ran into the same thing years ago in the Angeles thread when I was talking about giving the money to the girl the next day instead of paying at the bar before taking the girl. I was doing nothing special. Just telling the mamasan that I would give the girl the money the next day. People swore that was impossible, but of course they had never tried to do it. Maybe it is a personality thing.
FernandoAlonso
01-17-25, 11:58
Nice. If you ever want to go in as a group. Feel free to hit me up on PM. I'm a regular in this place and have been one for 10 years.
On a side note guys I would just like to mention a few things about Fernando Alonso. I first saw him posting 10 years ago on the China boards. He is a legend. His post count of 819 over a very long period of time may not outwardly reflect that. However. Ever wonder why? It's because when he posts, he posts a no nonsense report that's clear and concise and gives excellent advice, all the while never getting hung up on what others post and he never gets into online battles. Just clear and concise reports and gentlemanly comments complimenting others on their reports, a lot of my mongering habits and tactics I learnt from him.
Kudos to you my ISG brother. We should all learn from you.I can only return the compliments! Lots I learned here and without your report would have never found T-DED! You are the legend and all that contribute here. Keep it coming, it has been difficult enough to find reasonable priced quality currently.
Thanks everythingThai and happy hit you up in summer when I return! Hopefully.
FA.
Newbie first report.
Been here 10 days or so. Have racked up a few wins and losses and just wanted to post a report chronicling some of my adventures:
Blowjob bars make up a large percentage of what I'm looking for. Known cost, no haggling, low price, and easy access. I am not very picky about women when I don't plan on full body-to-body contact. Older women have better skills, and that suits me just fine. I'm old and am not excited by young girls. I haven't paid over 800 Baht yet, and the girls are fun.
Lotlitas and Kasalong and Duangporn are all winners. Lolitas doesn't have a sink, which is why I spend more time at the others. I'm old so I make them earn their money! Most have lasted an impressive amount of time before they take a break, and then I inform them that I rarely finish in the mouth and let them spank it. Am I a bad person for letting them go until they can't anymore? Hahahahahaha.
Wood bar had the worst looking women I have encountered in Bangkok. I was unable to pick one and enter. I am so happy I showed up before it was dark, and I wasnt so horny that I could walk away! And remember, I am not against older women. Horrific old hags! Harpys! They were offended because I walked up so confident and ready to play. Then after looking at each girl I noped the fuck out. I would rather not offend anyone, but I was unable to leave with a polite "some other time". They could see the repulsed look on my face.
Legit-looking massage parlors are kinda a waste of time. Out front you only pay the house bill, and then negotiate in whispers in the room. I like to know what I am paying for before I take off my hat. And in whispers, everything costs too much and there are adders for everything. Every statement like "show me your tits" is answered by "how much you pay?" Fuck that. Reminds me of mongering in the states.
Also, I haven't experienced any hot-towel cleanup yet. After she rubs oil all over you, and then my pecker making a huge mess, the girls returns with like 3 kleenex to wipe you down. As I exit, my pants and shirt are sticking to my oily skin. Gross.
That why I recommend a full on sex establishment. Don't fuck around with a massage parlor with unknown cost for extras. Go somewhere where prices are on the menu that detail blowjob, full service, fetish, costume etc. No unknowns. Shower before and shower after. No negotiating. You pay more than you could negotate at a normal massage parlor, but it's worth it.
Checkout the menu at Analisa Massage (right next to Kasalong). You know what you pay for and the only variable is: Can you find a girl you like. FYI, you will, as long as you are not looking for a teenager. One particular oddity. The menu clearly states NO BARE BLOWJOBS. Bummer.
Hope this helps other newbies.
Fargler.
Newbie first report.
Checkout the menu at Analisa Massage (right next to Kasalong). You know what you pay for and the only variable is: Can you find a girl you like. FYI, you will, as long as you are not looking for a teenager. One particular oddity. The menu clearly states NO BARE BLOWJOBS. Bummer.
Hope this helps other newbies.Don't forget to mention another particularity of that shit place.
They love to stick something deep in the customer's arse.
Thai Friend
01-17-25, 19:09
Newbie first report.
Been here 10 days or so. Have racked up a few wins and losses and just wanted to post a report chronicling some of my adventures:
Blowjob bars make up a large percentage of what I'm looking for. Known cost, no haggling, low price, and easy access. I am not very picky about women when I don't plan on full body-to-body contact. Older women have better skills, and that suits me just fine. I'm old and am not excited by young girls. I haven't paid over 800 Baht yet, and the girls are fun.
Lotlitas and Kasalong and Duangporn are all winners. Lolitas doesn't have a sink, which is why I spend more time at the others. I'm old so I make them earn their money! Most have lasted an impressive amount of time before they take a break, and then I inform them that I rarely finish in the mouth and let them spank it. Am I a bad person for letting them go until they can't anymore? Hahahahahaha..Lucky me I actually did find a teenager at Analisa last month. I wanted to try their glory hole service. First time having my dick dangle through a hole in the table but that was pretty much it. At some point she went down there for a quick rub but no BJ nothing. It was such a let down compared to the original script you see online.
I have a buddy in Pattaya that does that, and 3000-5000 is exactly what he gives them. And I am not talking about for short time. In many cases guys saying what can not be done have never tried doing it.
LOL. I have to tip my hat to your buddy then. He the man.
I'm having difficulties imagining how I'd explain just the concept itself to a tf-girl in Bangkok without her looking at me like I'm someone that just fell off the moon.
Mr Enternational
01-17-25, 22:17
LOL. I have to tip my hat to your buddy then. He the man.
I'm having difficulties imagining how I'd explain just the concept itself to a tf-girl in Bangkok without her looking at me like I'm someone that just fell off the moon.Well I first found out when I was riding past a bar and saw him. I stopped and hung out for a minute and took a liking to another girl that was working. I negotiated with my girl for 1000 LT and paid the bar fine. I asked him how much he was gving his girl. He said nothing. He gives her 3000-5000 each month and she comes when he wants her. He said a lot of times she even pays her own bar fine when he wants her to come during work hours. Said he has several chicks he does that with.
I like too many different chicks, so in a lot of cases it takes me 6 months to 1 year to get back around to the same chick. Better for me to pay as I go.
EverythingThai
01-18-25, 17:06
Well I first found out when I was riding past a bar and saw him. I stopped and hung out for a minute and took a liking to another girl that was working. I negotiated with my girl for 1000 LT and paid the bar fine. I asked him how much he was gving his girl. He said nothing. He gives her 3000-5000 each month and she comes when he wants her. He said a lot of times she even pays her own bar fine when he wants her to come during work hours. Said he has several chicks he does that with.
I like too many different chicks, so in a lot of cases it takes me 6 months to 1 year to get back around to the same chick. Better for me to pay as I go.I think the point of this forum is to report things that are realistic. I have been in Thailand for 15 years and mongering the whole time. I would just like to say that any young and decent looking girl will not go LT for 1000 Baht in Bangkok and you would even be hard pressed to find that in Pattaya. The key to this statement is "YOUNG AND DECENT LOOKING GIRL" Further, no young and decent looking girl will accept 3000-5000 Baht per month to go to fuck the guy at his beck and call each month all the wile even paying her own bar fine. Either this story was from 20+ years ago or the girls in question were old and unattractive.
A post like this just gives newbies unrealistic expectations. I will tell you about some sceneries that are more realistic.
Let's just say you end up frequenting a bar like Maggie Mays in Pattaya or let's say Bunny bar on Soi 4 in Bangkok. You meet one of the girls there and bar fine her a few times. Then you become a regular customer. While being a regular customer, the two of you develop feelings for each other. Then a semi relationship starts. During that relationship, sometimes the girl will skip off work early because it's quiet or she had a big customer earlier that day and go to see the guy. That would require her to pay her own bar fine to get off work early. This has happened to me plenty of times. Sometimes I would pay the girl the next morning and other times I wouldn't. Sometimes I would throw her a few bucks at the end of a given month to help her out and other times I wouldn't. This type of thing is more like a kik in Thai which means fuck buddy or friends with benefits. Meaning fuck buddy, not money.
For the newbies out here and most of the others. Please don't get it in your head that you can get young and attractive bar girls these days for 1000 Baht LT. And don't think that you can get a young and attractive bar girl to fuck you anytime of the day or night at your beck and call for 3000-5000 Baht total per month. However, the girl might give you a freebie here and there, but that comes with her expectation of more from you later on such as sponsorship or a real monthly salary of 15,000 Baht ++ per month or marriage. This type of relationship normally lasts only a short time because the girl realizes the farang is not willing to commit and take her out of the bar or she realizes that the guy is fucking others. Meanwhile thinking its ok for her because its her job but the farang should remain faithful to her.
FYI. Young and attractive bar girl for me = 20-25 years old. Not 35-45, chunky, with 2-3 kids under her belt and divorced 2 times.
Keep it real guys when posting about the Bangkok scene guys. The girls in Bangkok are classier, dress nice, spend hours doing their make up, nails and hair before going out and look for guys who have it together. The girls that accept 1000 LT and salaries of 3-5 k per month in return for unlimited fucking are not the top tier girls, nor the middle tier girls or even the below average girls.
Knowing this. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, I have seen foreigners with some scary looking ladies walking down sukhumvit. I have also seen dudes who dont pay any money and get real girl friends. I have been there and done that plenty of times over the last 15 years. This is not the same thought as what MR. E has just posted about. What he is saying is just not realistic in this day and time and over the last 15 years for young and attractive bar girls working in the farang haunts where most guys will initially meet the girl. Even in the Thai haunts where mostly ST is the only option.
For what Mr.E describes for:3000-5000 Baht per month, Thai men will pay a lot sometimes for their kiks. They are young university girls with white skin who are beautiful. These Thai men buy them cars and condos. Why would they want one of us, a foreigner for chump change?
Now in my next post, I will educate you guys on Thai university girls. I have read a lot of inaccurate info below.
EverythingThai
01-18-25, 17:57
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap.
For starters, many university girls in Bangkok have limited English skills. This language barrier alone makes meaningful connections difficult unless you speak Thai. Additionally, cultural differences mean their dating expectations may differ significantly from those of foreigners.
Campus Approaches: A Risky Move.
Trying to meet these girls at their universities might seem like a natural approach, but it's a mistake. Thai campuses are not public spaces, and wandering around without a purpose can result in complaints, security intervention, or even police involvement for trespassing. It's best to avoid this route altogether.
Shopping Malls and the YouTube Myth.
Videos of foreigners picking up girls in Bangkok's shopping malls like Siam Paragon or CentralWorld often paint an unrealistic picture. Many of these videos are staged. While it's possible to strike up a conversation in these places, expect skepticism or indifference, as Thai women often view unsolicited approaches from foreigners as intrusive. Have I done this before. Yes. In Pattaya it was easy. Why? Because many of the girls there work as FLs. In Bangkok I did it twice at Central Lat Phrao. However, it was with girls who worked there and I was a regular customer in their shop. I did get a couple of strangers contacts but they never replied to my lines. They just gave me their line ID to get rid of me. Few will have luck at this. Meeting them on Tinder and then meeting them at the mall, their place of work is a much more realistic scenario which I did often.
The Khaosan Road Scene.
Khaosan Road, Bangkok's backpacker haven, is a more realistic venue for meeting university-aged girls. While you'll primarily encounter tourists, some Thai students might visit for a night out. Keep in mind, though, that most of them are there to have fun, not to meet someone serious. If you get lucky here, it is one of the best ways to meet them and the one night stand will most likely be a freebie.
Tinder, ThaiFriendly, and Fiw Fans.
Online platforms like Tinder and ThaiFriendly offer more accessible avenues for meeting university girls. However, these apps are saturated with competition, and many users may not be genuine or are looking for financial support. Some foreigners have had luck meeting "Fiw fans" (freelancers), but these interactions are paid and most wont want to see you again. If a relationship develops, know it's likely rooted in a power imbalance. However, you will be able to fuck them, but don't get any idea about freebies. I fucked many of them during Covid. It was a blast. Even before Covid, I got lucky and found one on TF but she was also being supported by a Thai man so I didn't last long. I was just a change for her and when the foreigner novelty wore off, it ended.
Hostess Bars and Kareokes.
Hostess bars like The Pimp or Karaoke bars are likely places to find genuine university girls. However, the girls working in these establishments are street-smart and highly experienced in dealing with men. If you're hoping to meet someone naive or unjaded, these venues won't deliver. They will want your money. So just pay and get out.
Gents' Clubs, RCA, and the High-End Scene.
Some of Bangkok's gorgeous university girls frequent gentlemen's clubs, RCA, or high-end venues. However, these girls are often supported by wealthy Thai men who provide them with cars, condos, or tuition payments or they are looking for this. Competing in this scene as a foreigner is challenging and expensive. Even if you connect with one of these women, maintaining the relationship will likely require significant financial resources. So, just pay to play if you want and get out.
The "Innocent Girl" Fantasy.
Suppose you're lucky enough to meet an "innocent" university girl who genuinely likes you. Her friends or family may soon educate her on the reality of relationships with foreigners, leading to complications or demands. In the end, even this scenario can become costly emotionally or financially. Don't believe others who tell stories of dorm room hook ups and free cooking classes in exchange for sex LOL. Also don’t believe the guy that tells you one will fuck you at your beck and call monthly for 5k baht. You might get lucky for a month or two, but it will end fast just like I just described.
The Bottom Line.
While the fantasy of dating and or just fucking a hot, young university girl in Bangkok is alluring, the reality is often far from it. Language barriers, cultural differences, financial expectations, and social dynamics make this pursuit complex and potentially disappointing. Most foreigners should abandon this unrealistic dream and just pay to play with one of them if given the opportunity.
Chasing a fantasy may lead to fleeting excitement, but understanding the cultural nuances and being realistic about the challenges will save you from unnecessary frustration and expense and making a complete and utter fool out of yourself.
Why? Here is why. Many university girls have rich Thai boyfriends who are married but fuck them as Mia Nois. Sometimes their wives even know. These young girls get cars, paid condos and tuition payments. Why would they want to fuck around with a broke farang or holiday farang who has watched too much you tube with a Thai university girl fetish? If you want to compete with these rich Thai men, you better be prepared to pay.
Philip Marlow
01-18-25, 19:34
Bangkok's university girls....Wow, that was an education. I have no desire to hook up with a uni girl, but I read the whole thing. Thanks.
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap..Good insight but YMMV obviously. I recently had a fling with a girl who's a uni student just started her 2nd year (so she's 19) & met her on bumble. She's kinda curvy & looks pretty hot in her IG pics but I would say probably 4-5 kg added on and using good angles in her pics. She still looks hot when she makes the effort though.
It was a freebie, I would just call her from time to time. I wouldn't say she's particularly more into sex than other Thai girls as generally they are really into sex. And the fantasy about the girls in their school skirts with the slit, dang that's really hot but aren't those high school students so that's off the table.
The final thing I'd add is that Thai girls are really open to dating guys much older. I remember another girl who was 21-22 and she was saying she would even date guys above 45 and have done before. She was actually v sexy like an 8/10, curvy tanned with flat stomach. No payment and she go back to mine that night after a few drinks. But found out she blocked me on IG the next day for no reason.
Wow, that was an education. I have no desire to hook up with a uni girl, but I read the whole thing. Thanks.Reading about it is as bad as doing it.
The final thing I'd add is that Thai girls are really open to dating guys much older. I remember another girl who was 21-22 and she was saying she would even date guys above 45 and have done before. She was actually v sexy like an 8/10, curvy tanned with flat stomach. No payment and she go back to mine that night after a few drinks. But found out she blocked me on IG the next day for no reason.
This one. This is the one most important thing to know about normal, non-p4p thai girls. That's what makes Thailand, if no longer heaven due to our own age, still a great place for some of us. Even when just visiting.
If you were picking up 20 year old girls on the train, in the gym, in the swimming pool, in your own home country when you were in your late twenties, you still have a fair chance of picking up the same type of girls, at the same places, when you're 20 years older in Thailand.
If you never did that, then no, you're not going to be banging girls half your age in Thailand, unless you pay up in some way, and what you quoted from that other guy's post applies.
Forget that. That's just some confused guy talking nonsense.
try suggesting to some TF-girl that you will pay her 5000 once, and then you'll just ring her up whenever you want a free fuck for the next 30 days. See what she thinks for a quick reality check.I met a woman in the mall last week. She was dressed cute but she was no looker. We got talking (google translating). 10 minutes later she took me into.
A department store and asked me to buy her a handbag for 2000. I just laughed. Then she took me to a different store and said 'Look, this bags only 500!
Will you buy that one for me darling?' I refused. Two days later I just texted her and asked if she wanted sex. She agreed for 3000.
So I sent her a pic of a gorgeous girl I know, who's nearly half her age, and said I only pay her 1000. So she wrote back and said 'ok, make it 2000'.
At this point I learned about fiwfans so the next day I tried it out. Sent a couple of messages, one of them replied and said 'come now', so I turned up.
Paid 1000, had 2 showers together, some good sex, then left.
That's all I really need from a girl. I don't drink anymore so I don't want to hang around in bars, Sukhumvit is too far away from my place.
So finding out there's lots of hot ladies living nearby in hotels is perfect for me. You just check the pics, check the reviews, send a message, pay the money.
Have sex, then leave.
The only downside to that meeting was that she gave me a cold, so now I feel like shit.
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap..Excellent primer on the subject. Report of distinction for sure.
I've known a few uni girls over the decades. Mostly through being introduced in social settings like wedding parties or family associations. What Everything Thai says is the truth. Sure, there are exceptions, but unless you are looking for a serious relationship and willing to "commit", it would never be on my "to do" list. I just prefer the point and shoot options like the obvious bar and FL scenes. Just my opinion, but trying to score uni girls seems like a waste of time. If it's some kind of fetish that needs addressing, just hire some chick to dress up like a uni girl.
Sam.
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easy or as glamorous as it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.What an excellent report! Well written AND informative, from a guy who knows what he's talking about.
EverythingThai
01-19-25, 18:08
It was a freebie, I would just call her from time to time. I wouldn't say she's particularly more into sex than other Thai girls as generally they are really into sex. And the fantasy about the girls in their school skirts with the slit, dang that's really hot but aren't those high school students so that's off the table.Oh my god. Nobody here is talking about high school students. I guess you have never lived in Thailand before or you know absolutely nothing about it. The conversation I was commenting on was the one in the Bangkok section and it was about university girls. These university girls are always dressed in those white shirts and black skirts. High school children are not allowed to wear clothes like that. Please get a grip. Just google Thai university girls and look at the photos. Everyone here is referring to university girls who are legal adults. I don't know why you are referring to high school girls or why Nyezhov is saying it's wrong to date university girls who are adults. See the attached photo.
These are the girls everyone in the previous posts are so obsessed with and they are not high school girls. They are adults.
The purpose of my post was to provide realistic info to mongers so they do not arrive in Thailand and get into trouble trespassing on university grounds or make fools out of themselves trying to satisfy some fantasy.
Now I do not want to start a huge debate here, but guys please, do not mess with girls who are under 18. If a girl says she is 18, they often lie. So if you have any doubt, walk away. They can even use fake ID. If a bar girl is working at 18, you might think that it is not your problem, but the bars problem. Wrong again. If you buy her a drink, then there is a chance that you might get dragged into something even when the bar and her employer is serving her. And if you want to date university girls or any young Thai girls, please make sure you use common sense. Foreigners should not be messing with girls between 15 and 18 because that will just go wrong for you. Just do not do it no matter what you read about the topic. End of story.
If you want to debate about the legal age of majority, this is not the thread to do it in.
Philip Marlow
01-19-25, 20:05
Reading about it is as bad as doing it.Yeah, I can't imagine hanging around with a 20 year old, no matter what the benefits are. But this is an interesting hobby and I never heard about hooking up with uni girls as being part of it. Now I'm pretty well up on it.
I wonder what else I don't know about the sport. Hooking up with 7-11 clerks?
HorseTrader
01-19-25, 20:17
I met a woman in the mall last week. She was dressed cute but she was no looker. We got talking (google translating). 10 minutes later she took me into.
A department store and asked me to buy her a handbag for 2000. I just laughed. Then she took me to a different store and said 'Look, this bags only 500!
Will you buy that one for me darling?' I refused.Many Thai ladies are not shy about asking for expensive gifts. A while back a married Thai lady friend tried to set me up with her friend's 40-year-old kid sister. We did about 3 video chat sessions of about 5 minutes each, beautiful woman. Then, she asked me to buy her a Ford pickup sport truck, she even sent me a picture of the truck with her standing next to it. I declined. Then she asked me to make the down payment and she would make the monthly payments, again I declined. The quote that told everything was "Why not buy it? A good Thai man would buy it. " I suggested she ask a good Thai man to buy it for her. I never even met her in person.
I told my Thai lady friend what had happened and she was surprised and embarrassed. My friend did some research and it turns out that this particular lady had a whole list of gifts she was going to request: truck, pay off her mortgage, pay son's university debt, and buy Bangkok condo for 20-year-old-son.
KrumeLurer
01-19-25, 21:39
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2024/04/an-alternative-to-sukhumvit/
"The average Thai is dumbfounded when they hear how much the ladies of Sukhumvit are paid by foreigners. In their eyes, most of these ladies just aren't that attractive. Dark skin, heavily tattooed and outspoken, they are everything Thai men prefer to avoid. ".
HAHA!
The only one that is not dumfounded is all of those suckers that pay 2000 baht for a 35 year old average looking with stretchmarks.
I've known a few uni girls over the decades. Mostly through being introduced in social settings like wedding parties or family associations. What Everything Thai says is the truth. Sure, there are exceptions, but unless you are looking for a serious relationship and willing to "commit", it would never be on my "to do" list. I just prefer the point and shoot options like the obvious bar and FL scenes. Just my opinion, but trying to score uni girls seems like a waste of time. If it's some kind of fetish that needs addressing, just hire some chick to dress up like a uni girl.
Sam.It's only a waste of time if you fail, and even then you might get something out of it.
As a tourist I don't have much reason to care if she studies medicine at Chulalongkorn or is staffing the local coffee booth, as even if I wanted, there could not become anything of it.
Nonetheless, by coincidence two of the normal (non-p4p) girls that visited my airbnb earlier this month did however happen to be university girls. One in her first year, the other one in her second year. Also I see ElMexicant's stats are in a completely different league, so it need not be a complete waste of time.
Unfortunately I also have to admit, with quite some embarrassment, that I did not get further than kissing on my bed with the second year one. I know what I did wrong however, so will live and learn.
These are girls that you can then enjoy meeting again, go to the cinema and dinners with, and generally enjoy doing something other with than only fuck. That's something I myself cannot imagine wanting to do with a p4p-girl, though I know many here do.
Yeah, I can't imagine hanging around with a 20 year old, no matter what the benefits are. But this is an interesting hobby and I never heard about hooking up with uni girls as being part of it. Now I'm pretty well up on it.
I wonder what else I don't know about the sport. Hooking up with 7-11 clerks?I first hit the fabled shores of Thailand before the Skytrain, when Soi zero was still there and before Thermae moved to the Ruamchitt.
I've done 7-11 girls, Uni girls, Office girls, nurses.
In order to do so you have to invest time and effort and money like you would with any other girl. Its called dating. I said goodbye to that stuff 20 years ago. Far easier for me to pay and leave, and cheaper in the long run.
If that's your bag, go for it, the topic has been discussed endlessly over the years. Its almost as famous and important as "does she really love me". You can read the Board for all of the tips and experiences. Despite the ego needs of certain posters, the subject isn't a new one, nor particularly complicated.
Newton York
01-20-25, 02:35
I'm definitely baffled by what I'm reading here so far. By Mephistopheles balls, are you guys kidding me? Getting a Thai civilian chick is the easiest thing in the world for farangs, not just in Thailand, but all over South East Asia, and the world in general. Wherever farangs go in the world, whether it's 'gringos' in Latin America, and so on, it's easy to get a non pro girl. All you literally have to do is just show up. I've said this a million times. You can look like Danny fucking Devito, it don't matter. What you are, represents a step up the socioeconomic ladder. You can describe it as a kind of walking ATM mentality, but are you really there for a relationship or sex? I know when I go to Thailand, I'm there for sex. Fuck the relationship bit. Who cares. I've had enough to last me a life time, and it sucks, and not in the good way. But just pure sex, no strings attached. Understood to be transactional, sweaty, hot, animalistic, sexy sex. Yeah baby! That's what it's about.
Shame is a huge factor. Especially in Asia. Saving face and all that. As foreigners, all we need to do is to approach these chicks with literally no shame. Again, you could look like shit. But cause you're a foreigner dude who looks like you might have some means, the chick will dig you eventually, if not right away. Don't matter if she be 7-11, or some uni gal. It'll happen. And yes, odds are very high she'll have some Thai boyfriend already, but again, who cares? You're there for the pussy. That's literally it!
Lucifer wept. It almost sounds like you guys are trying to date them or something. Go ahead and do it, and it'll be the same. A few years down the line, you'll end up hating each other anyway, and you better hope to Merlin's beard by then there are no kids you have to support.
Think about it like this. Anytime there's an even mildly attractive Asian chick anywhere in the US, or Canada, or Europe, she's snapped up right away. Like flies on shit. She'll never be single, every guy'll want her, even if she looks like shit. But it's the whole exotic nature of it all, her being Asian and all that. You think she'll serve you, cook and clean for you her whole life. Bla Bla Bla.
It's the same damn thing the other way around. When there's a foreigner guy in South East Asia, the chicks will see you as the exotic one, and the main draw would be financial. A step up the social and economic ladder. You'll be paraded around to her friends and family, to show off and all, like a gucci bag or something. It's like 'look everybody, I got a farang man, who's the shit now? That's all that it is, the sad, sad human reality of it all.
Same coin, different sides.
So just fuck her, get the most out of that pussy, pay her some cash, and split. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy! And you're welcome!
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
Haha, nothing iconic here, just a version of the good old stripping for tuition line. Older men have insatiable fantasy about banging students. Unless you are a professor at the college she's attending, and she is enrolled in your class, 95-99% of this is fantasy.
Call me skeptical, but the vast majority of hookers I have met, regardless of region, claim to be college students. Younger ones (in their 20's) are almost always university students, older ones pick more realistic vocations (fashion design, sales & marketing), or claim to be studying for an advanced degree. Heck I have been on streak lately, and slept with a soon to be lawyer, accountant, two engineers, 'biomedical' (whatever that means), and a clinical psychologist almost back to back. One I met on an overnight in Paris recently was studying to be a 'sex therapist', now that I could believe. She was very good GFE. The aspiring psychologist brought text books on a repeat visit, in a bid to better sell the fantasy I guess.
Now, I came here looking for intel, because I am thinking about venturing into Bangkok as my first destination in exploring SEA, but things don't seem very encouraging reading back a bunch of pages. Not sure I'm missing something. I'm now leaning towards Jakarta.
By the way EverythingThai, your posts are full of wisdom and a fun read!
I'm definitely baffled by what I'm reading here so far. By Mephistopheles balls, are you guys kidding me? Getting a Thai civilian chick is the easiest thing in the world for farangs, not just in Thailand, but all over South East Asia, and the world in general. You are correct in your post, except for one important detail, the vast majority of easy civilians you are picking up are not civilian, they are pros, that is a part of the fantasy they are selling you. And they are very, very good at it. Making a foreigner with obvious 'looking for nooky' vibe feel like a top shelf player pays big dividends, whether you think you're getting free nooky doesn't matter. To an 'under the radar' hooker at the mall, you are as easy to spot as a tourist holding a map at a train station to a pick pocket. The more civilian and innocent they make you believe they are, the more it's going to end up costing you. The primitive male provider ego we are all born with always kicks in, and it can be expensive.
It is important for noobs know not to go expecting free pussy to be flying their way from all directions just because they are foreigners.
Great post. However my best experiences with amazingly hot girls in their early 20's has been the kapoo scene. Maybe you'd like to add your views on that in your post.
One a sidenote I am all about efficiency. I personally don't want to spend hours and hours on my feet trawling for the perfect dream. But I tend to do quite a bit of homework, so admittedly hours are spent online.
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and https://www.colonzethailand.com/ blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap..
ElMexicant
01-20-25, 09:58
If you were picking up 20 year old girls on the train, in the gym, in the swimming pool, in your own home country when you were in your late twenties, you still have a fair chance of picking up the same type of girls, at the same places, when you're 20 years older in Thailand.
If you never did that, then no, you're not going to be banging girls half your age in Thailand, unless you pay up in some way, and what you quoted from that other guy's post applies.That's what I keep telling these folks. I bet there are some major PLAYERS in this and other forums. I did not have my first real job until early 30 ish. Before then and even then, I had girls giving me weekly allowances, paying my rent, paying my car note, buying my clothes, jewelry, and always taking on the bill during our dates. Even today, I go to the market for breakfast and have the girls chat me up, gyms girl stare at me when I work out or stretch, and random women smiling or bending over pretending to pick up things when I walk by. I can go to a brand new GoGo club and all eyes will follow when I come through the door. Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away. Shit like this really exists for guys just as it exists with certain girls. There is a reason why top 2% of hostesses in Japan make over 100 K USD a month with just companionship and conversation. While the rest make much less. I've met a few very lovely Thai woking girls with who spoke perfect English and Hindi with no accents. They are scary to play with with very powerful conversational skills. The strong minded and stronger spirited will always have influence and power over the weak, male, female, or binary.
Member #4813
01-20-25, 11:44
If all the articles you're referring to are over a month old, then they're just reporting a promise that wasn't fulfilled (end legal last night).Despite the reports in the press, nothing has changed with respect to marijuana in Thailand. There seems to be a dispensary every km or so in Bangkok (Sukhumvit), as well as the central part of Pattaya.
FernandoAlonso
01-20-25, 11:50
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap.
For starters, many university girls in Bangkok have limited English skills. This language barrier alone makes meaningful connections difficult unless you speak Thai. Additionally, cultural differences mean their dating expectations may differ significantly from those of foreigners.
Campus Approaches: A Risky Move..Excellent insights and advice. From my personal POV just be aware these are fantasies so experience them, pay up and leave before the magic wanes off. I made that mistake many times and as soon as you try to turn fantasies into real life relationships be prepared for a world of pain, suffering and financial losses. Not saying it cannot work out but always keep perspective! When I first entered this world completely unprepared and of course stupidly fell in love another legend here just asked me: "have you seen her mother? Are you willing and able to satisfy her financial demands?" Meaning are you prepared to be with that person once she looks older and do you understand her needs? It was the best and worst year of my life and a genuine relationship but it had to end before raving havoc on both of us. Just my thoughts. Enjoy the fantasy but how many 19 year olds want to be with old fat guys like us (no offense)? And especially in Thailand, foreigners are not welcome as family members in most cases. So as appealing students might seem, chances for something real are minuscule so better put your efforts elsewhere.
FA.
Just my opinion, but trying to score uni girls seems like a waste of time. If it's some kind of fetish that needs addressing, just hire some chick to dress up like a uni girl.Sam.Uni girls can be found as sideline girls in the Bangkok entertainment venues.
Look at the massage joints accepting freelancers and letting them work with a relaxed schedule. I've met some in places like Addict or Pretty massage in the past for example.
Almost all of them were great fucks too.
The only downside to that meeting was that she gave me a cold, so now I feel like shit.She probably gave you something else on top of the cold.
These girls are being banged by all the Thais from morning to midnight. And Thai guys don't like to wear condoms.
That's what I keep telling these folks. I bet there are some major PLAYERS in this and other forums. I did not have my first real job until early 30 ish. Before then and even then, I had girls giving me weekly allowances, paying my rent, paying my car note, buying my clothes, jewelry, and always taking on the bill during our dates. Even today, I go to the market for breakfast and have the girls chat me up, gyms girl stare at me when I work out or stretch, and random women smiling or bending over pretending to pick up things when I walk by. I can go to a brand new GoGo club and all eyes will follow when I come through the door. Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away. Shit like this really exists for guys just as it exists with certain girls. There is a reason why top 2% of hostesses in Japan make over 100 K USD a month with just companionship and conversation. While the rest make much less. I've met a few very lovely Thai woking girls with who spoke perfect English and Hindi with no accents. They are scary to play with with very powerful conversational skills. The strong minded and stronger spirited will always have influence and power over the weak, male, female, or binary.My former live in was one of those Japanese hostess. Her daily expenses though included anew pair of shoes, night dress, hand bag, earings, etc. It was considered "cheap" if she wore a pair of shoes more than once as her customers expected her to have anew look each time. Over 1,000 pair of shoes and dresses. She just gave them away.
Mr Enternational
01-20-25, 15:35
Just my opinion, but trying to score uni girls seems like a waste of time. If it's some kind of fetish that needs addressing, just hire some chick to dress up like a uni girl.Isn't it always a fetish when guys put tunnel vision parameters on hookers or people in general? I go out and see a chick and like a chick. No need to go search only for chicks that are this age, this tall, with this skin tone, and this color hair. That says nothing about how you will get along together or anything else. Of course I have preferences or features I like about a chick, but I am not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and saying there are no good chicks if there were none with red hair or none 22 years old. I have never had a good time based on how someone looked or because they went to a certain school or had a certain job. Those things are just fetishes.
Mr Enternational
01-20-25, 15:55
I've done 7-11 girls, Uni girls, Office girls, nurses.
In order to do so you have to invest time and effort and money like you would with any other girl. Its called dating.That is not necessarily true. I have fucked all of the above for money. Not like I marched into any of these places looking for a chick. But in my pursuits of looking for chick to fuck for money, I have happened to come across chicks looking for guys to fuck them for money and it just so happened they worked at 7 11, were nurses, worked in an office, etc. Not really something to actively seek out and no big deal. When the clothes and work / school IDs come off, everyone is the same. Pursuing someone because of their affiliation is stupid. The affiliation does not make the person. Again, it is just a fetish that some guys have.
Mr Enternational
01-20-25, 16:13
I've done 7-11 girls, Uni girls, Office girls, nurses.
In order to do so you have to invest time and effort and money like you would with any other girl. Its called dating.That is not necessarily true. I have fucked all of the above for money. Not like I marched into any of these places looking for a chick. But in my pursuits of looking for chick to fuck for money, I have happened to come across chicks looking for guys to fuck them for money and it just so happened they worked at 7 11, were nurses, worked in an office, etc. Not really something to actively seek out and no big deal. When the clothes and work / school IDs come off, everyone is the same. Pursuing someone because of their affiliation is stupid. The affiliation does not make the person. Again, it is just a fetish that some guys have.
Mr Enternational
01-20-25, 19:33
Haha, nothing iconic here, just a version of the good old stripping for tuition line. Older men have insatiable fantasy about banging students.Not older men that actually attended a university and were banging chicks while there. Most of us do not see what the big deal is. I fucked high school chicks when I was in high school, university chicks when I was at the university, stripper chicks when I was DJing in the strip club, club chicks when I was bartending in the club, military chicks when I was in and out of the military, etc. Women are women. It does not matter if they are studying at a particular place or working a particular job. Guys that are used to getting pussy have no dog in this fight.
Isn't it always a fetish when guys put tunnel vision parameters on hookers or people in general? I go out and see a chick and like a chick. No need to go search only for chicks that are this age, this tall, with this skin tone, and this color hair. That says nothing about how you will get along together or anything else. Of course I have preferences or features I like about a chick, but I am not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and saying there are no good chicks if there were none with red hair or none 22 years old. I have never had a good time based on how someone looked or because they went to a certain school or had a certain job. Those things are just fetishes.I agree, my last 2 women I was with in Bkk the 1st was a 19-year old uni student and the sex was good but nothing amazing. I saw her a 2nd time and we're just normal friends. She wears glasses, wore a casual strapless dress when we first met and kinda curvy. To be fair she looked a lot better on the 2nd date with a lacy top and tight jeans.
The 2nd lady was a 34-year old recently divorced Thai, when she showed up wearing a nice black dress not an ounce of fat on her body and in bed she really knew what she was doing. You know when in any position and they're grinding and riding you even when you're in mish. She was pretty thirsty LOL. Long story short I'the much rather see the 34-year old again, just because someone is a uni student doesn't mean they're gagging for it. YMMV.
GuyBrusg1957
01-21-25, 06:01
Has anyone ever found lineups similar to the US or Canada were they have a list of girls working with maybe a partial photo at least? I know nothing about Thai social media but I am surprised that places like LaBelle or Black Label don't have one at all. Some of the clubs like The Pimp have some stuff but it hit or miss and some of the girls are just dancers not performers.
I know there are some sites like fwiw fans and some forums but navigating them is difficult as a westerner.
Hands down, if I had the time and was unconstrained, I'd stick to civvies or semi pros and avoid the pros almost completely.
I'm racially handicapped, but somewhat able to compensate through $, but am very understated / discreet.
I care little about physical appearance beyond slim / petite, but have very strong unsavoury / unspeakable desires and naturally lean towards women who can accommodate.
In my experience, taking a 22-23 yo 7-11 worker (not the most attractive in her surroundings) - on a first date that costs 3/4-1 month of her income covering dinner, shopping and rooftop bar has been the best strategy for my needs. Never had anything refused after that date, and often they continued to spend nights for 1-2 weeks after, expecting nothing in return.
I've found, the girls who are not the most attractive are starved for attention, and never been spoiled, so kind of get overwhelmed after such a date. They are genuinely grateful and show their happiness uninhibited which makes me even happier. All these civvies have rimmed me without the slightest hint from me, and always let me have their backdoor.
The civvies in jobs remotely similar to mine are too full of themselves and see themselves as a prize. It didn't take more than 4-5 such dates, 1-2 of which ended in the lousiest sex of my life to get me to swear off these women completely.
I don't frequent malls so never tried that cohort, but I imagine they are somewhere between the 7-11 girls and the snooty big company office girls.
The thing is though, IMO:
1. Civvies need familiarity over a couple of weeks at least till they will agree to a date.
2. You need to ask in the right situation ensuring she has no chance of losing face, and has privacy.
3. It is effort in the sense that you'll need to keep the pretence of a date going, but it is low effort if you do a mind blowing date.
Hands down, if I had the time and was unconstrained, I'd stick to civvies or semi pros and avoid the pros almost completely.
I'm racially handicapped, but somewhat able to compensate through $, but am very understated / discreet.
I care little about physical appearance beyond slim / petite, but have very strong unsavoury / unspeakable desires and naturally lean towards women who can accommodate.
In my experience, taking a 22-23 yo 7-11 worker (not the most attractive in her surroundings) - on a first date that costs 3/4-1 month of her income covering dinner, shopping and rooftop bar has been the best strategy for my needs. Never had anything refused after that date, and often they continued to spend nights for 1-2 weeks after, expecting nothing in return.
I've found, the girls who are not the most attractive are starved for attention, and never been spoiled, so kind of get overwhelmed after such a date. They are genuinely grateful and show their happiness uninhibited which makes me even happier. All these civvies have rimmed me without the slightest hint from me, and always let me have their backdoor.
The civvies in jobs remotely similar to mine are too full of themselves and see themselves as a prize. It didn't take more than 4-5 such dates, 1-2 of which ended in the lousiest sex of my life to get me to swear off these women completely.
I don't frequent malls so never tried that cohort, but I imagine they are somewhere between the 7-11 girls and the snooty big company office girls.
The thing is though, IMO:
1. Civvies need familiarity over a couple of weeks at least till they will agree to a date.
2. You need to ask in the right situation ensuring she has no chance of losing face, and has privacy.
3. It is effort in the sense that you'll need to keep the pretence of a date going, but it is low effort if you do a mind blowing date.This applies throughout Asia. Respect respect respect and good things happen.
JustLoggedInto
01-21-25, 15:40
I agree with most of this, but there's one area where I find myself disagreeing though it's more based on personal anecdotal experience.
Your post seems to frame "Thai rich guys" as some kind of threat. In my opinion, they're not. From my experience (I'm from the USA), we completely outmatch them financially. Let's do a simple 1-to-1 comparison: a USA Doctor in the Bay Area vs. A Thai doctor, or a USA Software engineer vs. A Thai software engineer. It's no contest.
In fact, I'd go even further and say that USA Guys make far more money than Japanese salarymen. The strength of the USA Dollar compared to other currencies, especially the Japanese yen (which has been halved in value since 2011), puts us on a completely different level.
Another reason I don't see Thai rich guys as a real "threat" is because their contributions don't seem any different from the typical civilian relationships here in the USA Going on date after date, paying for dinners, and eventually having a girlfriend often costs more than any interactions with Thai girls and definitely more than whatever the Thai guys are contributing. At the end of the day, we simply make way more money, and the girls know it.
You also touched on another point. A friend of mine (he's USA -Thai) once explained how Thai men view beauty. When you see women in Thai commercials, that is their standard of beauty. That's what Thai men consider ideal.
Adding to this, if you're a wealthy Thai guy, why would you settle for a farmer girl (most of the girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana are from Isan) when you could be with someone just as beautiful but college-educated?
That said, your ultimate message is spot on: get in, get out.
Bangkok's university girls, often seen in their iconic short black skirts and white blouses, are the subject of many foreigners' fantasies. But before diving headfirst into this dream, it's crucial to face the realities, challenges, and potential pitfalls. Picking up university girls in Bangkok isn't as easyor as glamorousas it may seem on YouTube or in your imagination.
The Language Barrier and Cultural Gap.
For starters, many university girls in Bangkok have limited English skills. This language barrier alone makes meaningful connections difficult unless you speak Thai. Additionally, cultural differences mean their dating expectations may differ significantly from those of foreigners..
Hands down, if I had the time and was unconstrained, I'd stick to civvies or semi pros and avoid the pros almost completely.
I'm racially handicapped, but somewhat able to compensate through $, but am very understated / discreet.
I care little about physical appearance beyond slim / petite, but have very strong unsavoury / unspeakable desires and naturally lean towards women who can accommodate.
In my experience, taking a 22-23 yo 7-11 worker (not the most attractive in her surroundings) - on a first date that costs 3/4-1 month of her income covering dinner, shopping and rooftop bar has been the best strategy for my needs. Never had anything refused after that date, and often they continued to spend nights for 1-2 weeks after, expecting nothing in return.
I've found, the girls who are not the most attractive are starved for attention, and never been spoiled, so kind of get overwhelmed after such a date. They are genuinely grateful and show their happiness uninhibited which makes me even happier. All these civvies have rimmed me without the slightest hint from me, and always let me have their backdoor..I've found a good strategy is to bounce to another place on the 1st date so that it almost seems like the 2nd date. Psychologically they just feel more comfortable with you that you have built up some level of trust that you show her a 2nd place and you seem like a (somewhat) normal person and not an axe murderer.
Don't underestimate coffee dates, not only are they less costly but less pressure too.
I agree with most of this, but there's one area where I find myself disagreeing though it's more based on personal anecdotal experience.
Your post seems to frame "Thai rich guys" as some kind of threat. In my opinion, they're not. From my experience (I'm from the USA), we completely outmatch them financially. Let's do a simple 1-to-1 comparison: a USA Doctor in the Bay Area vs. A Thai doctor, or a USA Software engineer vs. A Thai software engineer. It's no contest.
That's not "Thai rich guys". After ex-GF moved to Bangkok from nakhon nowhere, she eventually got to know some sugarbabes (plus several wealthy thai women, due to her own work / education, not because she herself was rich). These are girls that get 200,000+ per month in "salary", posh apartments to stay in, and when daddy comes to pick them up in one of his Ferraris (look up the price of a Ferrari in Thailand. Hint: it's not what you might think if you're from the USA), dazzling gifts. Plus I'm sure all sorts of other things I didn't hear about.
I saw some photos of these "sugarbabes", and all I can say is, unless these girls have some hidden talents, daddy's taste is pretty different from mine. But competing financially? Is that you, Elon?
Not older men that actually attended a university and were banging chicks while there. Most of us do not see what the big deal is. I fucked high school chicks when I was in high school, university chicks when I was at the university, stripper chicks when I was DJing in the strip club, club chicks when I was bartending in the club, military chicks when I was in and out of the military, etc. Women are women. It does not matter if they are studying at a particular place or working a particular job. Guys that are used to getting pussy have no dog in this fight.LOL. I have to admit to also having had a slight Thai university girl fetish when I first came to live in Thailand, and I don't think I'm alone. It's the uniform. Nobody in my home country used uniforms at school, and there's something sexy about it if you've not experienced it before.
I can still remember one of my friends, sometimes dropping by during a study break in her uniform, before going to back to uni some hours later. The first few times I thought that was god damn sexy. One time I pissed her off by not taking off her uniform shirt before fucking her on the bed, and then jizzing all over her shirt. Fortunately clothes dry really quick in Thailand.
"does she really love me". You can read the Board for all of the tips and experiences. Despite the ego needs of certain posters, the subject isn't a new one, nor particularly complicated.The married guys on asean forum said I was lying about all the old boys I know who've been screwed over by their Thai and Filipina wives.
You'll be paraded around to her friends and family, to show off and all, like a gucci bag or something. It's like 'look everybody, I got a farang man, who's the shit now? That's all that it is, the sad, sad human reality of it all.
Yep. I've had that experience in Chiang Rai and Angeles.
Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away.LOL.
There seems to be a dispensary every km or so in... the central part of Pattaya.There's a weed shop every 6 feet in Pattaya. I'm not complaining. I like weed.
That is not necessarily true. I have fucked all of the above for money. Not like I marched into any of these places looking for a chick. But in my pursuits of looking for chick to fuck for money, I have happened to come across chicks looking for guys to fuck them for money and it just so happened they worked at 7 11, were nurses, worked in an office, etc. Not really something to actively seek out and no big deal. When the clothes and work / school IDs come off, everyone is the same. Pursuing someone because of their affiliation is stupid. The affiliation does not make the person. Again, it is just a fetish that some guys have.Dude I think you misunderstood. My point is if you want to grab some non P4 P stuff, you have to date it. Dating. Like BF GF stuff. Like holding hands and gazing together on long walks around the market, giggles and subtle touches and glances, you pay of course, just don't hand her a wad of cash the next morning.
Now in terms of what were are all here for, I've paid 7-11 girls too as I ushered them out the door. Hell, I saw a 7-11 girl from my neighborhood in Thermae once, I made her far more comfortable when I smiled and winked.
But, its a whatever to me, if folks want to fly to Thailand and fall "in love" (ie morph to an ATM) and "date" more power to them. Its not complicated, its the same as back in the World. It seems that there is a whole bunch of overthinking going on, as it has since this subject came up on the first days of this place, and quite frankly, I could have done two short times and a Nana smash burger in the time it has taken me to read all the analyses.
And yes I read fast, so no need to bring up my speed fucking.
Mr Enternational
01-22-25, 02:31
LOL. I have to admit to also having had a slight Thai university girl fetish when I first came to live in Thailand, and I don't think I'm alone. It's the uniform. Nobody in my home country used uniforms at school, and there's something sexy about it if you've not experienced it before.LOL. See. I went to Catholic school for 8 years. The last thing I want to see a chick in is a uniform!
I cruised through Thermae last night about 10 pm. Bought a bottle of water. The place seemed more packed with groups of young Asian men than I had seen the past 2-3 times I stopped in over the past few months. Me: 71 year old farang, middling / low Thai language skills, reasonably fit, wore collared polo-style shirt, long jeans pants, sneakers. The line up of girls was as it has generally been in the recent past; some post-graduate uni girl types, office worker part-timer regular girl types, few would come across as hookers if spied on the skytrain or subway, much higher percentage of slim, well-proportioned, lighter skin freelancers than their street-walking counterparts.
First go around my smile and nod was politely responded to by the less shy, the more farang-friendly, farang-curious or more needy. But most would be among the top 25% of Thermae lookers to my eyes.
Stopped in the middle bar areas for a moment to set down my water and check my phone messages. Chubby Chinese girl on a stool next to me initiated a casual conversation. I responded politely but did not pursue as, at 35 or so, she was older than I preferred and as long as she was sitting on a stool I could not tell if her body was still interesting enough to want to fuck despite the chubbiness.
Second time around I stopped at one girl on the left side line up that was cute and had hit me with a beaming smile the first time around but the language barrier seemed more daunting than usual and the shoulder-to-shoulder high-school dance awkwardness of it all kept it all but impossible to exchange anything other than how much and for how long. Which I assume is about the only exchange that happens between these girls and 90% of the Asian punters. But I don't really need to know how much since I know it's going to be 500 baht on either side of 3,000 and I know it will be for at least 30 minutes, long enough for me to pop my one pop and move on. I need to know DFK or not, BBBJ or not, BBBJCIM or not, BBFSCIP or not; Critically valuable info for which Thermae might be the worst set up imaginable to obtain a zero peer pressure and more truthful response from a Thai girl.
Moving on to the center bar area, I stop at a very friendly smiling face of a sexier girl who seems very impressed and amused that I can engage in the simplest basic Thai greetings. And at this area it is easier to whisper requests into her ear to find out things that really matter. And I found out she will not finish a BJ with a CIM or boom boom no condom with a finish inside. Next. I moved on, which seemed to disappoint her.
All the way around to the other side and I get even more smiles from even more cuties than my first time around, one older but still kind of doable lady I am sure I have seen there before reached out to touch me as I passed, I smiled back but did not stop.
Then I see a cute-faced, slim, light skin, mid 20's, junior office-worker type smiling at me with just the trace of pretend or real lust in her eyes to inspire me to stop and whisper-chat the essentials. She is notably more English-fluent than most, in keeping with her post-graduate uni girl, junior office-worker image.
3,000 for 1 hour. I pause a few seconds only to consider if I want to pursue the next questions and how to phrase them but before I can get the next question out she drops it to 2,500.
DFK? Ok.
DATY and BBBJ? Ok.
BBBJCIM? A hesitant Ok.
BBFSCIP? No.
I look disappointed but would actually be quite fine with a BBBJCIM from this girl so I don't just walk away.
I mention I have had a vasectomy, "t-monn" in Thai, but that I do like BBBJCIM anyway so. But, again, before I had a chance to agree to a BBBJCIM for 2,500 baht she chimed in with "3,000 ok for boom boom no condom, cum inside". Oh. Nice. Ok. Of course, I whisper-repeated that bottom line service expected and that she just agreed to another time and the 3,000 baht amount just to be sure. At that point I only added that I enjoy slow and easy, no rush sex, to which she smiled even more and nodded and off we went.
We rode my little electric motor-scooter to Soi 7/1, got a 350 baht ST room at the Atlas Hotel, she opted to shower first and alone, followed by my shower. Back on the bed, adjust the aircon to a suitable level, another sip of my bottled water, start off with some very sweet, romantic and receptive DFK and the very smooth, easy and no hurry Real Sex session proceeded as agreed. Very nice. I would repeat. She really did have a very nice, slim, little or no tattoo, perky and nicely shaped tits, great skin body and an even cuter face up close in a missionary fuck and finish inside position.
The only downside was she had way more of a Bush than is appetizing or appealing to me. Probably left that way for the typical Thermae clientele. Had she been fully shaved or waxed it would have been more of a dream first session.
Rode her back and dropped her off in front of Thermae with a hug.
. . . To be interested in the idea of hitting on and picking up some random, shy, MILF civvie?
Planning my first ever mongering trip to Bangkok in April. Staying several days. Of course I am going to put my main focus on the obvious options.
But I can't seem to get the idea of civvie sex out of my head.
Probably a ridiculous fantasy and perhaps waste of time, but mutual sex "off the clock" is just so much better in my opinion. (I know many may disagree. It is just how I feel.).
Unfortunately my game skills are atrocious so it would be seriously uphill.
Hands down, if I had the time and was unconstrained, I'd stick to civvies or semi pros and avoid the pros almost completely.
The thing is though, IMO:
1. Civvies need familiarity over a couple of weeks at least till they will agree to a date.
2. You need to ask in the right situation ensuring she has no chance of losing face, and has privacy.
3. It is effort in the sense that you'll need to keep the pretence of a date going, but it is low effort if you do a mind blowing date.
TallDarkUsa
01-22-25, 06:31
Hello,
I will be in Bangkok for a few weeks. Where can I find working foreigner girls. Any massage parlors that offer it or escort agencies you can recommend.
Dude I think you misunderstood. My point is if you want to grab some non P4 P stuff, you have to date it. Dating. Like BF GF stuff. Like holding hands and gazing together on long walks around the market, giggles and subtle touches and glances, you pay of course, just don't hand her a wad of cash the next morning.
Dude, it does not need to be like that. All my dating consists of meeting at coffee shop or similar (a park, swimming pool, run in the park), and some talking. If we like each others, we'll go to my place after that, and if we still like each others after that, we'll be meeting now and then. Other times we just go our separate ways after the coffee shop.
Fortunately that still works ok me with girls I'm happy to fuck, but I suspect in a few more years, it will not. Then I will have to exclusively do p4p.
I can go to a brand new GoGo club and all eyes will follow when I come through the door. Maybe they sense the presence of a Punjabi Prince from far away. Shit like this really exists for guys just as it exists with certain girls. The smell of curry is strong with this one.
I'm an Indian who's planning to visit Thailand. During the research I have noticed that a lot of massage parlours don't even allow Indians. I'm just curious is it the case with most massage parlours? In general I am a lone wolf so it's not like I'd be travelling with a group of fellow Indians. I also don't stink and dress well. I won't be haggling either. Recently I saw a Chinese YouTuber's videos who explores different massage parlous in Bangkok. And the girls there seemed pretty hot and it left me wondering even if I have the money to spend will I be allowed? Would appreciate insight of other Indians who have been there or in general anyone and there experience with these massage parlours. Here are the links of bunch of those YouTube videos:
https://youtu.be/5TdPiy-ccak?si=ni1rc8GAKN07I_XY
https://youtu.be/HLQbqJxoc6M?si=SccuvWYfFk2XCf52
https://youtu.be/OnybRYuuvPc?si=VsW1GAVBruTdBTJo
BroComplex
01-22-25, 11:55
I'm an Indian who's planning to visit Thailand. During the research I have noticed that a lot of massage parlours don't even allow Indians. I'm just curious is it the case with most massage parlours? In general I am a lone wolf so it's not like I'd be travelling with a group of fellow Indians. I also don't stink and dress well. I won't be haggling either. Recently I saw a Chinese YouTuber's videos who explores different massage parlous in Bangkok. And the girls there seemed pretty hot and it left me wondering even if I have the money to spend will I be allowed? Would appreciate insight of other Indians who have been there or in general anyone and there experience with these massage parlours. Here are the links of bunch of those YouTube videos:
https://youtu.be/5TdPiy-ccak?si=ni1rc8GAKN07I_XY
https://youtu.be/HLQbqJxoc6M?si=SccuvWYfFk2XCf52
https://youtu.be/OnybRYuuvPc?si=VsW1GAVBruTdBTJoAs an Indian you should expect some places to not welcome you but don't let that bother you. There are more places that welcome Indian than places that don't.
Dude, it does not need to be like that. All my dating consists of meeting at coffee shop or similar (a park, swimming pool, run in the park), and some talking. If we like each others, we'll go to my place after that, and if we still like each others after that, we'll be meeting now and then. Other times we just go our separate ways after the coffee shop.
Fortunately that still works ok me with girls I'm happy to fuck, but I suspect in a few more years, it will not. Then I will have to exclusively do p4p.Well some folks here I'm sure don't have it quite so easy. You pay for the coffee right? Or she buys her own before she just falls into the sack with you.
MohdirFan82
01-22-25, 12:20
Thai women and men know how you carry youself, I have seen tons of very decent and classy indians who score regularly stunners. Most Thais have only one concern, Bath.
I never see any massage paulor, Bars, Beer bars, or clubs turn away any decent indians.
The problematic ones are Sharing one girl amoung 5 other friends, sharing one beer amoung all, bargain on price with girls, doesn't take shower before going out, or dancing in the middle of the road with a group of friends.
I'm an Indian who's planning to visit Thailand. During the research I have noticed that a lot of massage parlours don't even allow Indians. I'm just curious is it the case with most massage parlours? In general I am a lone wolf so it's not like I'd be travelling with a group of fellow Indians. I also don't stink and dress well. I won't be haggling either. Recently I saw a Chinese YouTuber's videos who explores different massage parlous in Bangkok. And the girls there seemed pretty hot and it left me wondering even if I have the money to spend will I be allowed? Would appreciate insight of other Indians who have been there or in general anyone and there experience with these massage parlours. Here are the links of bunch of those YouTube videos:
https://youtu.be/5TdPiy-ccak?si=ni1rc8GAKN07I_XY
https://youtu.be/HLQbqJxoc6M?si=SccuvWYfFk2XCf52
https://youtu.be/OnybRYuuvPc?si=VsW1GAVBruTdBTJo
I'm an Indian who's planning to visit Thailand. During the research I have noticed that a lot of massage parlours don't even allow Indians. I'm just curious is it the case with most massage parlours? In general I am a lone wolf so it's not like I'd be travelling with a group of fellow Indians. I also don't stink and dress well. I won't be haggling either. Recently I saw a Chinese YouTuber's videos who explores different massage parlous in Bangkok. And the girls there seemed pretty hot and it left me wondering even if I have the money to spend will I be allowed? Would appreciate insight of other Indians who have been there or in general anyone and there experience with these massage parlours. Here are the links of bunch of those YouTube videos:
https://youtu.be/5TdPiy-ccak?si=ni1rc8GAKN07I_XY
https://youtu.be/HLQbqJxoc6M?si=SccuvWYfFk2XCf52
https://youtu.be/OnybRYuuvPc?si=VsW1GAVBruTdBTJoThe first one is an advertisement for a shit massage joint employing post op ladyboys without making the customer aware.
One of these two "girls" is a post op LB in fact.
I don't think you would be rejected by these assholes, they are the kind who want to scam every people walking in their "office".
Well some folks here I'm sure don't have it quite so easy. You pay for the coffee right? Or she buys her own before she just falls into the sack with you.Sometimes they are standing by the cashier with their phone out, about to pay. Like my last date was doing, telling me she will pay for her thai tea and meaning it. I always take that as a sign of class, but yeah, I always pay if I'm inviting. It's the gentlemanly thing to do, no?
If we buy a couple of take-away pizzas for dinner while walking to my place, I pay for those too. Condoms and K-Y at 7-11 on the way? You betcha, that's 'ol Werqweq, up there by the cashier, paying again.
A recent thing I picked up in Jakarta is that I now always offer the little darlings my phone so they can book grab to get home afterwards. Small thing, but I see they like the gesture.
Didn't always have it so easy about this myself. Unlike one or two other guys here, for whom I'm guessing this came naturally, it was the opposite for me. Fortunately I figured out "enough" while I could still enjoy it.
NRandom940
01-22-25, 23:48
. . . To be interested in the idea of hitting on and picking up some random, shy, MILF civvie?
Planning my first ever mongering trip to Bangkok in April. Staying several days. Of course I am going to put my main focus on the obvious options.
But I can't seem to get the idea of civvie sex out of my head.
Probably a ridiculous fantasy and perhaps waste of time, but mutual sex "off the clock" is just so much better in my opinion. (I know many may disagree. It is just how I feel.).
Unfortunately my game skills are atrocious so it would be seriously uphill.Do it and let us know. Maybe other guys here have experience.
HorseTrader
01-23-25, 00:12
3,000 for 1 hour. I pause a few seconds only to consider if I want to pursue the next questions and how to phrase them but before I can get the next question out she drops it to 2,500.
DFK? Ok.
DATY and BBBJ? Ok.
BBBJCIM? A hesitant Ok.
BBFSCIP? No.
I look disappointed but would actually be quite fine with a BBBJCIM from this girl so I don't just walk away.
I mention I have had a vasectomy, "t-monn" in Thai, but that I do like BBBJCIM anyway so. But, again, before I had a chance to agree to a BBBJCIM for 2,500 baht she chimed in with "3,000 ok for boom boom no condom, cum inside". Oh. Nice. Ok. Of course, I whisper-repeated that bottom line service expected and that she just agreed to another time and the 3,000 baht amount just to be sure. At that point I only added that I enjoy slow and easy, no rush sex, to which she smiled even more and nodded and off we went.
The transition from CFS at 2500 to BBFSCIP at 3000 would have been critical for me. Could you tell if it was your vasectomy that changed her mind or could she sense that BBFSCIP is what you really wanted?
I speak near zero Thai, so me explaining my vasectomy is futile. Just 2 months ago I realized that "vasectomy" means nothing to Thai girls, even with a translator app. But "sterile" is something that they can often understand, sometimes without a translator.
Mr Enternational
01-23-25, 00:42
I speak near zero Thai, so me explaining my vasectomy is futile. Just 2 months ago I realized that "vasectomy" means nothing to Thai girls, even with a translator app. But "sterile" is something that they can often understand, sometimes without a translator.Say can not make baby.
There's been a healthy thread of discussion here about fucking a regular girl (e. G. Shop worker or 7-11 girl). I've long lusted after those demure little 7-11 girls who avert eyes and are all business at the till. But I always assumed they were off limits. Until now! Does anyone have stories and / or tips to share on getting one of these girls bent over the bed in my airbnb?
TIA!
The transition from CFS at 2500 to BBFSCIP at 3000 would have been critical for me. Could you tell if it was your vasectomy that changed her mind or could she sense that BBFSCIP is what you really wanted?
I speak near zero Thai, so me explaining my vasectomy is futile. Just 2 months ago I realized that "vasectomy" means nothing to Thai girls, even with a translator app. But "sterile" is something that they can often understand, sometimes without a translator.The transition happened so fast during whispered communications that my impression was she was just looking for any reasonable qualifier to latch onto as an excuse to change her mind without coming across as too easy and casual about it.
As I recall I was only in the process of whispering "t-monn" along with a slight scissor gesture with my fingers and pointing down to my crotch area before she countered with the "3,000 baht boom boom no condom ok" offer. Naturally, I reminded her then and there that I was also requesting "until I finish inside" and not just "boom boom no condom". And she agreed to that, too.
By the way, I sensed no confusion or discomfort in her about the critical difference between the two. She apparently was aware that some girls, perhaps herself, had been partitioning each way as though they were as separate in terms of negotiation as they were in fact in terms of engaging in Real Sex or not.
For sure I did not see a light switch flip difference in her expression as I was mentioning and gesturing about my vasectomy. I barely got it out before she forged ahead with her counter offer. If anything, my impression was she just didn't want me to smile and walk away as she very likely had seen me doing after a brief exchange with 2-3 other girls around the bar.
Therefore, any reasonable response to her concern about it would probably have been acceptable to her rather than see me smile, walk away and out the door.
. . . To be interested in the idea of hitting on and picking up some random, shy, MILF civvie?
Planning my first ever mongering trip to Bangkok in April. Staying several days. Of course I am going to put my main focus on the obvious options.
But I can't seem to get the idea of civvie sex out of my head.
Probably a ridiculous fantasy and perhaps waste of time, but mutual sex "off the clock" is just so much better in my opinion. (I know many may disagree. It is just how I feel.).
Unfortunately my game skills are atrocious so it would be seriously uphill.Definitely not, after dating a 19 and then a 21-year old recently I had a date with a 34-year old recent divorcee. When she walked into restaurant, can feel other guys looking at her with her figure / dress and how she looked in general. And in bed she's really proactive, even in mish she'the be grinding into me in fact in any position. Couldn't last long with her at all and we did it twice in about 1. 5 hours.
I remember when I got a bit soft on the 2nd go and she just got off from CG and started blowing me again with the rubber on, a bit gross if you think about it but also very hot LOL.
Sometimes they are standing by the cashier with their phone out, about to pay. Like my last date was doing, telling me she will pay for her thai tea and meaning it. I always take that as a sign of class, but yeah, I always pay if I'm inviting. It's the gentlemanly thing to do, no?
If we buy a couple of take-away pizzas for dinner while walking to my place, I pay for those too. Condoms and K-Y at 7-11 on the way? You betcha, that's 'ol Werqweq, up there by the cashier, paying again.
A recent thing I picked up in Jakarta is that I now always offer the little darlings my phone so they can book grab to get home afterwards. Small thing, but I see they like the gesture.
Didn't always have it so easy about this myself. Unlike one or two other guys here, for whom I'm guessing this came naturally, it was the opposite for me. Fortunately I figured out "enough" while I could still enjoy it.All right, well this is the P4 P part of the Board, perhaps your reports would be best suited to Rants and Raves. You might get some English speaking folks not from the West confused.
But, do you negotiate BB Anal at the register?
ThaiGoodTimes
01-23-25, 05:52
The transition from CFS at 2500 to BBFSCIP at 3000 would have been critical for me. Could you tell if it was your vasectomy that changed her mind or could she sense that BBFSCIP is what you really wanted?
I speak near zero Thai, so me explaining my vasectomy is futile. Just 2 months ago I realized that "vasectomy" means nothing to Thai girls, even with a translator app. But "sterile" is something that they can often understand, sometimes without a translator.I say and pantomime that I cannot make baby, I am cut.
I rock my hands like cradling a baby and say, "mai dai" (cannot), then I move one hand down to my balls and say "cut" with my fingers doing a scissor action.
Most get that quite easily, if they don't I get the phone and translate "vasectomy", and "I am cut, cannot make baby".
Old And Ugly
01-23-25, 12:09
I'm an Indian who's planning to visit Thailand. During the research I have noticed that a lot of massage parlours don't even allow Indians. I'm just curious is it the case with most massage parlours? In general I am a lone wolf so it's not like I'd be travelling with a group of fellow Indians. I also don't stink and dress well. I won't be haggling either. Recently I saw a Chinese YouTuber's videos who explores different massage parlous in Bangkok. And the girls there seemed pretty hot and it left me wondering even if I have the money to spend will I be allowed? Would appreciate insight of other Indians who have been there or in general anyone and there experience with these massage parlours. Here are the links of bunch of those YouTube videos:
https://youtu.be/5TdPiy-ccak?si=ni1rc8GAKN07I_XY
https://youtu.be/HLQbqJxoc6M?si=SccuvWYfFk2XCf52
https://youtu.be/OnybRYuuvPc?si=VsW1GAVBruTdBTJoPlease don't get offended, I'm trying to help, one thing I learned from multiple girls in the Philippines is that they avoid indians at all costs because they stink, not because they don't wash, I'm sure that our days everybody does, but because of the spices in your diet. The girls won't touch the curry because of the aroma, whenever I took one to an indian restaurant. Probably when you get intimate, skin to skin, that becomes obvious, I did fucked an indian girl in India, but for me was nothing obvious, and I did pay attention. I do smell the shrimp salt and the fish sauce on the skin and pussies of SEA girls, but knowing that it's there because of their diet it doesn't bother me.
I do like garlic, and I couldn't eat it because back when I used to work, in the USA, even that it didn't involve close contact with my colleagues, I was told that they can smell it from my skin, only by being in the same room.
Maybe do some changes to your diet for a while, and you will be fine, do some research in that direction. I do have a good indian friend, he lives in the US, I know he's vegetarian, he's eating western foods mostly, and he's a mongering champion on all continents, because he likes to travel, and he has money. He never been rejected anywhere.
All right, well this is the P4 P part of the Board, perhaps your reports would be best suited to Rants and Raves. You might get some English speaking folks not from the West confused.
Not sure if you felt my post was ranting or raving?
Anyway, I don't think the occasional post about fucking girls not for money detracts too much from the otherwise brilliant posts here, and find them interesting myself.
But, do you negotiate BB Anal at the register?Of course. I have to upgrade their thai ice tea to "large" if I want anal, or "xl" if I want both anal and cum on face. Include a brownie, or other pastry, if I want them to stay till the morning.
Naturally, I reminded her then and there that I was also requesting "until I finish inside" and not just "boom boom no condom". And she agreed to that, too.
By the way, I sensed no confusion or discomfort in her about the critical difference between the two. She apparently was aware that some girls, perhaps herself, had been partitioning each way as though they were as separate in terms of negotiation as they were in fact in terms of engaging in Real Sex or not.
For sure I did not see a light switch flip difference in her expression as I was mentioning and gesturing about my vasectomy.Probably somebody intelligent enough to be on the pill. I know you have a lot more experience, but in my much more limited mongering experience, if they're on birth control, the question is mainly BBFS or not BBFS. Only girls not on the pill, or girls looking for another customer later and needing a "clean pussy", care a lot about CIP if they have already accepted BBFS.
I can only recall one girl who was on the pill, but still declined CIP after BBFS. A filipina freelancer in Bangkok last month, who later on informed me the risk of stds to girls was higher if the man CIP-ed, or CIM-ed. I'd already been fucking her BBFS for a while, before she informed me I could not CIP. Told her I had a vasectomy, but she said that was not what she was worried about. A bit of a downer for me, but since I'd neither agreed, nor paid anything extra for the BBFS with her, I could not complain. She somewhat reluctantly let me CIM instead at the end.
In contrast, a girl at mango massage, presumably not on birth control, some days earlier also let me start with BBFS, but after a couple of minutes said something along the lines of "ok, that's enough. Now have to put on condom". Was not interested in a tip to let me continue BBFS either. Presumably thinking a little bit of BBFS might be ok to make the customer happy, but stop before there's a risk the guy will cum and make her pregnant.
Dunno why so many seemingly normally intelligent women in this line of work are not on birth control, even including a nurse at another massage shop last month too.
Mr Enternational
01-23-25, 23:34
There's been a healthy thread of discussion here about fucking a regular girl (e. G. Shop worker or 7-11 girl). I've long lusted after those demure little 7-11 girls who avert eyes and are all business at the till. But I always assumed they were off limits. Until now! Does anyone have stories and / or tips to share on getting one of these girls bent over the bed in my airbnb?Same as any chick. You start by asking them out. There is no magic spell to be cast or anything.
MrHappyKat
01-24-25, 04:50
This applies throughout Asia. Respect respect respect and good things happen.This applies throughout Earth. There will be cultural differences no doubt that may vary the script and timeline. But it's always about respect, confidence, and transparency.
Where to go next in South E Asia??
I'll be doing my Bangkok report soon but wanted to get advice on where to go next. Cambodia or Philippines? I have heard good things about both but do you guys think Phnom Penh has the verity and abundance as Manila or Angeles? If you been to both which do you prefer and why??
Captain Solo
01-25-25, 01:51
I could not access Fiwfans, then when it opened it could not find any girl.
YouTube shows police action in involving Fiwfans. I could not understand Thai, but it looks busted. Can any bro explain?
https://www.youtube.com/live/cQ8aPfU0yYM?si=qac-9xioRjgf4VdM
Website Fiwfans has been closed after been raid by police https://www.thaipost.net/criminality-news/728599/. A lot of other site are close like sidelinebangkok or Bkkline.
Only throngpok69 still running. This was really nice to find a girl anywhere quickly, specially if you are far from Sukhumvit or near Don mueang airport. Do you have any link for other website like fiwfans?
ThaiGoodTimes
01-25-25, 10:10
The police announce the busting of FiwiFans, amongst it alleging many issues, and very very big money.
https://www.dailynews.co.th/news/4326342/
Another REPORT from Fargler in a section called "Bangkok REPORTS". Sorry to break up your sewing circle. What topic is next for you girls, menopause?
Finally made it to 7 Heaven.
Tried about a week ago, but they were busy. Two young boys in front of me were taking WAY too much time to pick a girl on the ipad. Then the desk clerk was telling them that all normal rooms were busy, but they could upgrade to a special room or just wait. I just walked out that day and chose a massage place.
Tried again a week later and it was still pretty busy, but I managed to get in. Chose Mali from the ipad, and thankfully real life matched the pic.
Just my opinion but there is NO WAY I would choose a full service girl from a photo. Seems like my risk tolerance is much lower for a blowjob.
She went topless and followed direction well. Fantastic titties. Like pregnant girl tits. 1300 baht at the counter plus tip for Mali. Would repeat.
Fargler.
EverythingThai
01-25-25, 13:35
I could not access Fiwfans, then when it opened it could not find any girl.
YouTube shows police action in involving Fiwfans. I could not understand Thai, but it looks busted. Can any bro explain?
https://www.youtube.com/live/cQ8aPfU0yYM?si=qac-9xioRjgf4VdMThat happened to Fan Fin Fin which was the most popular one before Fiw Fans even existed and now they are back again. Fiw Fans just got to popular and the big reason is they caught underage girls working. Search Fan Fin Fin and you will see the site is almost the same. Scroll down to the user blogs at the bottom of the forum and you will see the old posts about Fan Fin Fin. Now they are back and have been for some time. Just Fiw Fans was more popular.
ZenosArrow11
01-25-25, 14:58
Gents,
First post here after reading BKK forum from September forward. Than you all for the wealth of information. After my trip, in addition to reports, I hope to pay it back in what little way I am able.
25 hours from now, I'll land in Bangkok. I'm 66, slim, very nice and respectful. I do not speak a lick of Thai. I'm not very interested in short-time encounters, as my taste runs toward all night GFE rendezvous. I'm not made of money, but I'm also not going to skimp. I take it from this forum that short time is more common than long, and that for instance, bar girls, gogo dancers and freelancers are tough to lure to a long-term encounter until it's very late at night, if then. I am aware I could use escort services, but they're a bit painful in the wallet, and I much prefer spending at least a little time with a girl before sealing the deal to make sure that she's a good fit. I'm also not interested in hunting for sideliners, university girls, and such as I'm probably too old to get their attention, and I'd rather spend the time fucking than hunting.
Are my assumptions correct? If so, I would be grateful for any advice. I have three weeks in Thailand, I'll almost certainly never be able to come back and I want to make the most of it.
Many thanks.
EverythingThai
01-25-25, 18:19
Gents,
First post here after reading BKK forum from September forward. Than you all for the wealth of information. After my trip, in addition to reports, I hope to pay it back in what little way I am able.
25 hours from now, I'll land in Bangkok. I'm 66, slim, very nice and respectful. I do not speak a lick of Thai. I'm not very interested in short-time encounters, as my taste runs toward all night GFE rendezvous. I'm not made of money, but I'm also not going to skimp. I take it from this forum that short time is more common than long, and that for instance, bar girls, gogo dancers and freelancers are tough to lure to a long-term encounter until it's very late at night, if then. I am aware I could use escort services, but they're a bit painful in the wallet, and I much prefer spending at least a little time with a girl before sealing the deal to make sure that she's a good fit. I'm also not interested in hunting for sideliners, university girls, and such as I'm probably too old to get their attention, and I'd rather spend the time fucking than hunting.
Are my assumptions correct? If so, I would be grateful for any advice. I have three weeks in Thailand, I'll almost certainly never be able to come back and I want to make the most of it.
Many thanks.As it seems you are coming on holiday, I am going to recommend the following strategy for you:
Hit the Soi 7/1 beer bars and the Suk Soi 4 beer bars during the afternoons. Drink a little and get to know some of the girls. Take a couple of them short time until you find one you like. Then take her long time after that for a day or two. You will get a better deal. Focus on ladies above 30. Then do the same at a go go bar. This meaning rinse and repeat.
Then try Thai Friendly. Get the premium for only 1 month. Search for the 30+ ladies and make then offers for LT and try a few from there.
And one final piece of advice. Do not fall in love no matter what! After a day or two cut them loose. I have seen older guys time and time again taken for everything by a 30-45 year old veteran bar girl. Just don't do it. That is the danger of going LT with these girls. If you easily get attached to girls after you fuck them, doing ST is better for you. It's cheaper, you will a better selection and you can sample more ladies while you are here. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH A BAR GIRL NO MATTER WHAT!
EverythingThai
01-25-25, 19:23
https://www.fanfinfin.co
Ive been holding on to this little secret for a while and now I am passing it on to my ISG brothers.
And then from Twitter: https://x.com/x9hm9r9wydjalgm?s=21&t=244Hhq1hO438RxYz3PzrPA
Search Thai sideline #sideline
Then hit up the admins you have used in the past on Fiw Fans on their lines. 90% were admins and not the lady you were chatting to. They will send you their rosters and most have started telegram groups.
Thank me later
Have fun boys.
Orange Crust
01-26-25, 00:02
Ok, I do have a thing for exotic looks, SEA or Thai are my absolute favourite. High on my list are some super hot Punjabi / SEA Indian women, especially when quite slim. The last time I stayed in Bangkok, I would walk from my AirBnB to Thermae past a custom suit tailor business that had the most stunning SEA Indian staff member that was always standing at the entrance inside the shop. We would exchange the odd smile as I walked by. She'the still be working (crazy hours for retail businesses) when I would be returning to my AirBnB with my Thermae pull. This went on for 4 weeks. Not daily. But many times. Each time she's see me with a different companion. I'm not sure what was going through her mind or she was just curious to see who would be joining me next.
So the thing is, if she was at Thermae, I would have definitely pulled her and I may have been interested in an arrangement with her. She was that hot and she was my type. I never went in because she was working at a legit business and often these businesses are run by families, so hell no, I wouldn't want it to be an ackward situation and I had no intention of buying a suit. To this day I regret not trying to set something up with her. I could only imagine what she thought of me. At least 20 different girls with me (a couple of repeats. But I doubt she would be able to tell the difference.).
Anyways, anyone ever experience pulling someone from a suit shop? SEA Indian? Is there any options for meeting SEA Indian women / Punjabi women in BKK who would do a ST or LT freelance encounter.
MohdirFan82
01-26-25, 00:22
Most of these girls you see are actully Nepalese / Bhutanese girls working in shops. Most of them brought in by bussniess owners or someone them are bussniess owners themselfs.
Her brother, sister or uncle is working nearby or watching there moves from the distance, I am myself Malaysian-American who speak flent Hindi / panjabi.
You will see tons of them in Platimium Mall, and other counterfit malls, they are surely are very cute and doable. I myself have several unsuccesful attemps pulling one even for a date.
Ok, I do have a thing for exotic looks, SEA or Thai are my absolute favourite. High on my list are some super hot Punjabi / SEA Indian women, especially when quite slim. The last time I stayed in Bangkok, I would walk from my AirBnB to Thermae past a custom suit tailor business that had the most stunning SEA Indian staff member that was always standing at the entrance inside the shop. We would exchange the odd smile as I walked by. She'the still be working (crazy hours for retail businesses) when I would be returning to my AirBnB with my Thermae pull. This went on for 4 weeks. Not daily. But many times. Each time she's see me with a different companion. I'm not sure what was going through her mind or she was just curious to see who would be joining me next.
So the thing is, if she was at Thermae, I would have definitely pulled her and I may have been interested in an arrangement with her. She was that hot and she was my type. I never went in because she was working at a legit business and often these businesses are run by families, so hell no, I wouldn't want it to be an ackward situation and I had no intention of buying a suit. To this day I regret not trying to set something up with her. I could only imagine what she thought of me. At least 20 different girls with me (a couple of repeats. But I doubt she would be able to tell the difference.).
Anyways, anyone ever experience pulling someone from a suit shop? SEA Indian? Is there any options for meeting SEA Indian women / Punjabi women in BKK who would do a ST or LT freelance encounter.
Newton York
01-26-25, 03:43
Gents,
First post here after reading BKK forum from September forward. Than you all for the wealth of information. After my trip, in addition to reports, I hope to pay it back in what little way I am able.
25 hours from now, I'll land in Bangkok. I'm 66, slim, very nice and respectful. I do not speak a lick of Thai. I'm not very interested in short-time encounters, as my taste runs toward all night GFE rendezvous. I'm not made of money, but I'm also not going to skimp. I take it from this forum that short time is more common than long, and that for instance, bar girls, gogo dancers and freelancers are tough to lure to a long-term encounter until it's very late at night, if then. I am aware I could use escort services, but they're a bit painful in the wallet, and I much prefer spending at least a little time with a girl before sealing the deal to make sure that she's a good fit. I'm also not interested in hunting for sideliners, university girls, and such as I'm probably too old to get their attention, and I'd rather spend the time fucking than hunting.
Are my assumptions correct? If so, I would be grateful for any advice. I have three weeks in Thailand, I'll almost certainly never be able to come back and I want to make the most of it.
Many thanks.First of all, let me congratulate you by saying that your choice of Thailand is a wise one. One of the best destinations for paid sex in the world. Good food, good weather, safe and of course plenty of affordable sex options. Based on your criteria I'd say your first try would be Thermae, but you'd have to spend some time negotiating and there is a risk that the chick is not going to be good in bed.
But if you get the chicks towards the end of the night it will be an all nighter. Though pickings will be slim by then.
I'd say your best bet, is the massage girl option, which has worked out for me, is to spend a few days fucking the chicks from the oilies or soapies. Especially the ones in and around Phrom Phong, or the ones around Terminal 21. Find one you connect with, one that seems to really like you and without too much prompting will do more for you like rim or swallow cum. These are the keepers. With these chicks, after 3 or even just 2 sessions, you should already have their Line contact, make arrangements with them to meet you after their shift is done at the massage joint.
This method is almost foolproof because if she's good, you'll know it by the first session. By the 2nd session, if she's still good, then she's definitely a keeper. You'd definitely want to see her outside of her mamasans grasp. And because you're giving her 100% of the fees, she'll be even more grateful.
And I can guarantee you by Lucifer's ballsack that you will have a good time. It'll be an all nighter, and since she wants to keep you as a regular, especially if you have a room that has a small kitchen setup, she'll want to cook for you as well. Since you'll be there for a coupla weeks, this should be enough time for you to round up a stable of 3 to 4 chicks like this that you can rotate every other day.
What's good about this method too, is that in finding these more reliable chicks, you get to fuck them to find out. You'll be spending much more time fucking than hunting, or wining or dining. And because you'll still be paying the same rates that they would be asking for in the massage joint, it doesn't cost anymore than if you were in the shop.
And in between these 3 or 4 'girlfriends' that you'll have for those 3 weeks, these chicks being the ones you know are reliable, will service you the way you like and treat you well, in between all that, spend some time here and there hunting down some quickies. Since you're never coming back again, you have to do everything at least once. Nana, Cowboy, Patpong, the Huai Kwang joints, etc.
Because even in these places, you might find a gem or 2 that you can add to your stable for repeat fucks. I found one in Cowboy, and she was great. But in the process of finding her, there were a number of duds. Especially in Nana.
I almost got one in Patpong, my gut told me she would have been good, and I really liked her look and overall vibe. But I just ran out of time.
Remember, never tell them you're here as a tourist for a short time. Tell them you're here to work for a year or more. Your company sent you here, and you are "Tam Ngan Mak Mak". Always busy, always stressed by the boss and company and you seek stress relief. They'll be nicer to you if they think you will be a regular. Learn some Thai, it goes a long way in smoothing out the initial contact. Also learn a few phrases of other Asian languages, like Japanese or Korean. The Thai chicks will be very impressed by this. Especially since some of these massage joints are operated by Koreans or Japanese.
I envy you so much my friend, but at the same time I know exactly how exciting this must all be. You won't regret any of this. If anything, you might try even harder to get back again. Bangkok is that addictive. Like that famous line from The Hangover 2, "Bangkok has him now".
There's a lot of nonsense, especially in the rants section of this forum, but trust me when I say I know what I'm talking about. Just look back at my reports, especially from 2022 when I was in Bangkok for 3 weeks. I'd even go so far as to say it was the best 3 weeks of my sad, and unfortunately long life. I'm much older than you, so if I can have a great time, you definitely will too. We have an edge as foreigners when it comes to chicks in Thailand. Always exploit that.
Hi guys,
I will be travelling to Thailand later this year for a week. Mostly staying in Bangkok and Pattaya for now (3 days each). I will be travelling after the month of June. So I have some question about travelling off season.
What is the weather like from May onwards?
Will the quality and quantity of working girls in spas, massage parlours and other establishment go down compare to the peak season?
Cheers,
YourGuy.
Where to go next in South E Asia??
I'll be doing my Bangkok report soon but wanted to get advice on where to go next. Cambodia or Philippines? I have heard good things about both but do you guys think Phnom Penh has the verity and abundance as Manila or Angeles? If you been to both which do you prefer and why??I am leaning towards Manila and Angeles but what do you guys thing??
Ok, I do have a thing for exotic looks, SEA or Thai are my absolute favourite. High on my list are some super hot Punjabi / SEA Indian women, especially when quite slim. The last time I stayed in Bangkok, I would walk from my AirBnB to Thermae past a custom suit tailor business that had the most stunning SEA Indian staff member that was always standing at the entrance inside the shop. We would exchange the odd smile as I walked by. She'the still be working (crazy hours for retail businesses) when I would be returning to my AirBnB with my Thermae pull. This went on for 4 weeks. Not daily. But many times. Each time she's see me with a different companion. I'm not sure what was going through her mind or she was just curious to see who would be joining me next.
So the thing is, if she was at Thermae, I would have definitely pulled her and I may have been interested in an arrangement with her. She was that hot and she was my type. I never went in because she was working at a legit business and often these businesses are run by families, so hell no, I wouldn't want it to be an ackward situation and I had no intention of buying a suit. To this day I regret not trying to set something up with her. I could only imagine what she thought of me. At least 20 different girls with me (a couple of repeats. But I doubt she would be able to tell the difference.).
Anyways, anyone ever experience pulling someone from a suit shop? SEA Indian? Is there any options for meeting SEA Indian women / Punjabi women in BKK who would do a ST or LT freelance encounter.It's the same as picking up at 7-11, but easier since you will not have a line of people queuing behind you. Read Mr. E's excellent guide on how to do that, posted here just a day or two a ago.
Mr Enternational
01-26-25, 13:47
It's the same as picking up at 7-11, but easier since you will not have a line of people queuing behind you. Read Mr. E's excellent guide on how to do that, posted here just a day or two a ago.Shit. Not those Nepalese chicks. I have been trying to get one for 20 years. 2025 could be the year though!
KrumeLurer
01-26-25, 15:17
https://www.fanfinfin.co
Ive been holding on to this little secret for a while and now I am passing it on to my ISG brothers.
And then from Twitter: https://x.com/x9hm9r9wydjalgm?s=21&t=244Hhq1hO438RxYz3PzrPA
Search Thai sideline #sideline
Then hit up the admins you have used in the past on Fiw Fans on their lines. 90% were admins and not the lady you were chatting to. They will send you their rosters and most have started telegram groups.
Thank me later
Have fun boys.You learned that secret from me haha!
CCRider1008
01-26-25, 15:58
I am leaning towards Manila and Angeles but what do you guys thing??Cambodia is not what you read about. It is not a good mongering scene. If you want to see temples of Angkor and do some tourist stuff then 3-4 days but don't expect a robust girl scene. Manila is okay IMHO. Not even close to BKK. Cebu I'd pass on unless you're mainly there for tourist stuff. Never been to Angeles so if you're just there for P4P might be better option.
CCRider1008
01-26-25, 16:11
Gents,
First post here after reading BKK forum from September forward. Than you all for the wealth of information. After my trip, in addition to reports, I hope to pay it back in what little way I am able.
25 hours from now, I'll land in Bangkok. I'm 66, slim, very nice and respectful. I do not speak a lick of Thai. I'm not very interested in short-time encounters, as my taste runs toward all night GFE rendezvous. I'm not made of money, but I'm also not going to skimp. I take it from this forum that short time is more common than long, and that for instance, bar girls, gogo dancers and freelancers are tough to lure to a long-term encounter until it's very late at night, if then. I am aware I could use escort services, but they're a bit painful in the wallet, and I much prefer spending at least a little time with a girl before sealing the deal to make sure that she's a good fit. I'm also not interested in hunting for sideliners, university girls, and such as I'm probably too old to get their attention, and I'd rather spend the time fucking than hunting.
Are my assumptions correct? If so, I would be grateful for any advice. I have three weeks in Thailand, I'll almost certainly never be able to come back and I want to make the most of it.
Many thanks.I've been to BKK 5 times now and going on my 6th in March. + side there is no better mongering city in the world. - side it definitely tends toward ST. Like you I get bored with ST scene. Want more of a GFE 3-5 hours thing. Dead end is trying to convince non-hooker Thai women on TF you're a potential boyfriend for them. LOL not enough time in a 2 week trip to sufficiently convince them so they will fuck you. And the FLs on TF are like all freelancers -- they want $ so ST and fucking as many guys as they can makes more economic sense to them. I've been looking at some of the massage sites that do outcall and have LT rates. Some are reasonable. My plan is to converse 1-2 times with "manager" to ID girls: speak at least conversational English, okay with BF. GF GFE sex, have fun attitude; then try them out ST to see if connection before paying LT rates.
Anyway let us know if anything worked for you.
Cambodia is not what you read about. It is not a good mongering scene. If you want to see temples of Angkor and do some tourist stuff then 3-4 days but don't expect a robust girl scene. Manila is okay IMHO. Not even close to BKK. Cebu I'd pass on unless you're mainly there for tourist stuff. Never been to Angeles so if you're just there for P4P might be better option.You come to Cambodia to see the Temples, its a must see in Asia. If you do them right, you will be to tired to even take advantage of the pathetic scene in Siem Reap.
Shit. Not those Nepalese chicks. I have been trying to get one for 20 years. 2025 could be the year though!Ah, this must be quite a challenge indeed then. I might have to cast a second glance at these annoying indian tailor shops next summer then. After hearing "how are you friend?" a hundred times I'm just zoning them all out, and would not notice if Scarlett Johansson herself were standing next to one of them. Might OP care to mention the name of this specific Thermae adjacent shop, just on the off chance this particular babe may still be working there next summer?
And will it still count if I have to buy an ill-fitting banana coloured suit in order to get enough time away from uncle with one of these sweethearts to set up a later date, before clubbing her and dragging her out to my cave in the woods? Sounds like this might even be a challenge for our local curry smelling prince.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-27-25, 04:24
I've been to BKK 5 times now and going on my 6th in March. + side there is no better mongering city in the world. - side it definitely tends toward ST. Like you I get bored with ST scene. Want more of a GFE 3-5 hours thing. Dead end is trying to convince non-hooker Thai women on TF you're a potential boyfriend for them. LOL not enough time in a 2 week trip to sufficiently convince them so they will fuck you. And the FLs on TF are like all freelancers -- they want $ so ST and fucking as many guys as they can makes more economic sense to them. I've been looking at some of the massage sites that do outcall and have LT rates. Some are reasonable. My plan is to converse 1-2 times with "manager" to ID girls: speak at least conversational English, okay with BF. GF GFE sex, have fun attitude; then try them out ST to see if connection before paying LT rates.
Anyway let us know if anything worked for you.Have a look at going the SugarBaby path and investigate Seeking and Sugar.com.
These all have Thai women that offer the 3-5 hour with dinner, or even overnight, GFE interactions.
Of course, be very aware that it all comes at a significant higher price point.
ThaiGoodTimes
01-27-25, 04:34
https://www.fanfinfin.co
Ive been holding on to this little secret for a while and now I am passing it on to my ISG brothers.
And then from Twitter: https://x.com/x9hm9r9wydjalgm?s=21&t=244Hhq1hO438RxYz3PzrPA
Search Thai sideline #sideline
Then hit up the admins you have used in the past on Fiw Fans on their lines. 90% were admins and not the lady you were chatting to. They will send you their rosters and most have started telegram groups.
Thank me later
Have fun boys.WTF are you smoking?
Every girl shown on FanFinFin is from listings dates as being in 2022 or 2021.
Even the X / Twitter Thai sideline site looks like it hasn't been updated since 2022.
She went topless and followed direction well. Fantastic titties. Like pregnant girl tits. 1300 baht at the counter plus tip for Mali. Would repeat.
Fargler.I know you didn't go full service but did they quote you a price? Website doesn't list that option.
A few nights ago I decided to check out Patpong as a possible alternative destination for Real Sex with a cute young lady away from my general Nana area neighborhood now that I have had a regular girlfriend, not a direct P4 P girl, living with me for almost two years.
First stop was one of the Kings Castle gogo bars on Patpong 2. I don't remember which one. My soda was 140 baht, Lady Drinks were, as I recall, 230 baht, which seemed to be the standard pricing everywhere I checked.
One tattooed, somewhat skanky-looking but certainly doable imo, young, slim, braces-wearing bleached blonde spinner kept giving me the eye and a smile from the stage when few others were even trying. So after a few minutes I called her down for a couple of LDs and a chat.
The chemistry was very sweet, or seemed so, she cuddled and stroked me constantly. Not my crotch, but my chest, stomach, shoulders, hands, arms. Very loving "feeling". The Kid down there was responding accordingly. I got a hard-on visible through my jeans that made her blush and give me a big wet kiss on the face and lips.
Time to hit the basics: How much is the barfine? 1000 to the bar, 4,000 to her for 1 hour.
I countered with 3,000 to her if we will BBFSCIP?
OH NO! CANNOT! Not for 3,000,4,000 or any amount of money. Can not do without wearing a condom for any amount of money, assurance of vasectomy, recent blood test result or anything else. No.
So much for expecting her somewhat skanky, overly tattooed, bleach blonde look to tell me anything positive about having Real Sex with her.
Ok. Nice meeting you, Mawa or whatever her name sounded like in a loud bar. Bye. She took me by the hand and walked me to the door, big sweet hug, no change of heart or mind despite her expression of pain, loss and regret as she saw me walking away with a wad of thousand baht notes still safe in my pocket and that hard-on still visible through my jeans. Buh-Bye.
Passing through that shortcut between Patpong 2 and Patpong 1, a couple of doable girls blocked my path to show me a menu of drinks and plead with me to please sit and have 1 drink. Pulling away from their grip I was met by a third lady, an older one at 40 or so, who continued the pitch but with the added bit of stroking my dick through my jeans in such a nice way I decided maybe 1 drink here would be fun after all.
So far, Patpong was proving to be much more of a "loving, stroking, chemistry-building" experience than Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy. Would that have anything to do with me eventually having Real Sex, in my book meaning DFK, BBBJ then BBFSCIP or at minimum a memorable BBBJCIM, with these Patpong girls? Well, let's find out.
This particular older lady at this beer bar looked like she had a pretty good body under her jeans, had a marginally acceptable face if the lighting was very low, but her touch in keeping the Kid up and as rigid as twisted blue steel under my pants was impressive. The mild DFK in public was nice. And she kept gazing lovingly at the Kid in my pants, licking her lips and telling me how much she wants that! Fun.
Therefore, after a soda for me and a LD for her I hit her with the basics:
BBBJCIM? No clear affirmative response.
BBFSCIP? No clear affirmative response.
Ok. Nice to meet you whatever your name is, check-bin, please.
Much surprise and disappointment from her. Don't I want to pay bar and take her? She WANTS me and the Kid so much!
Honey, I have asked you a couple of times and so far you have not said Yes to anything I want.
"Oh. Ok. But please come back again"!
Really, Patpong is proving to be much more loving and sexy in the way the girls say No to having Real Sex with me compared to the way some do it in Nana Plaza and on Soi Cowboy.
So I am on my way back to my motor scooter parked at Foodland on Patpong 1 and I see a gogo bar with a new name; Virgin. New to me anyway.
Sunny, the papasan, rushes out the door to meet and introduce himself to me. Points to all the girls on the stage, many look good, and assures me he will help me find what I want. Really? Hey, I am open to establishing such a relationship with a gogo bar papasan or mamasan since doing so has worked out very well for me in my experience.
So I follow him back into the bar. We sit and chat about what I want and does he have a girl who will accommodate. I tell him exactly what I want. See above for my definition of Real Sex. He nods and smiles, "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like"?
One very sexy young slim but curvy girl, a real female for sure, suddenly arrives on the stage. Sunny points to her and asks if I like her. I do. He points and calls her down. Even though she had been staring at me / us from the stage while she moved erotically on stage, his pointing to her to come join me seemed to take her by pleasant surprise.
In the booth all went as typically loving, stroking, affectionate and chemistry-building as I had by now grown to appreciate as the Patpong style. And the Kid was into as well.
Again, after a couple of LDs for my girl and Sunny the papasan who now knows that if all goes well with this lady according to what I want and for what he clearly understands that I want then I will return many, many, many times and bring like-minded friends with me as well, I still need to make sure May-nay or whatever her name sounded like in a loud bar is on the exact same page as I am about it.
May-nay was fine to do what I wanted; DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP. Sunny repeated it to her in Thai just to make it absolutely certain all around and it was a done deal.
The usual 1,000 to the bar and 4,000 to her was cited. I countered with 3,000 to her but settled on 3,500 for her since establishing this great relationship with Sunny and this bar with a higher percentage of hotties than most I had checked this night was going so swimmingly well as it had for me on previous occasions in Nana Plaza and on Soi Cowboy.
But before May-nay or whatever went to change into her street clothes, Sunny recommended I buy her one more LD and "for sure she will be very good for you in the room". Sure. Why not.
She came back looking great in her street clothes, took me by the hand to lead me directly around the corner in the bar area to a stairway that took us to a Short Time hotel, taking me as though she did not want to give me a chance to look this way or that way at this girl or that girl. I was HER customer now and forever, dammit! So encouraging. And fun.
Upstairs at the ST hotel register, Sunny the papasan suddenly and strangely appeared again, apparently just to make sure everything was fully understood in Thai by May-nay. Damn, that is fine customer care and attention, I must say.
The ST room cost was a higher than usual 800 baht. But pre Covid I had paid 600 baht for 3 hours at another nicely appointed ST room on the ground level. So if this room was decent, and it was, I could understand the current rate. I did not think to ask for how long since I assumed it would be for at least 1 hour and I never need more than about 45 minutes to pop my one good pop even with a shower before and after.
Finally. In the room with my fully and completely vetted Patpong gogo girl. The whole point of this Patpong expedition:
May-nay or whatever became quite silent and non responsive to any warming up to the act.
After her and then my shower, instead of cuddling or kissing in bed, she became suspiciously, I would say, "pretend" concerned about every little flaw on my body; staring and pointing to a light tan freckle on my shoulder, she frowned and wanted to know "What is that"?
The same with another couple of sun damage freckles on my forearm and hand; a very troubled and concerned, "What is this? What is that"?
A wrinkle on my stomach. Same reaction.
Even a small bandaid to cover a poke I had gotten on my leg shin riding my bike a day before; "What is that"? Very troubled she was about these things.
She typed out something for a long while on her phone. Google Translate: "I am afraid of the world. ".
Uh. Honey, if you are afraid of the world you are definitely in the wrong job, in the wrong city, in the wrong room with the wrong man.
Back to her Google Translate for another long while.
Naturally, the Kid was not taking a liking to this at all and was sinking fast in his attention and readiness to do anything, perhaps for the rest of the night and most of tomorrow.
I say, May-nay, are you just playing games to avoid having sex with me now?
And put it on my Google Translate. She read it then sullenly put her phone down and asked if we were going to use a condom. I said that was not the agreement.
So she proceeded to give me the most mechanical blowjob, utterly lacking in any trace of eroticism, ignore my 1st, 2nd and 3rd request for her to go slow and gentle not fast and furious. Instead of repeating it a fourth time, I stop everything and tell her this is not good or working for me, it is nothing like our agreement, I am done here and will go down to tell Sunny if you want to come along too.
An aside here: at this point we could not have been in this ST room more than 20 minutes. But somebody was already flashing the lights off and on, apparently signaling us to hurry it up, time to leave. Wtf? Are these 30 minute ST rooms, which I have never heard of, for 800 baht?
Ready to exit the room, I put 700 baht on the bed next to her purse. Also dressed, she blocked the door to prevent me from exiting, demanding that I give her "2,000"!
I say No. She says No. Now I am opening the door anyway while she is grabbing my wrist and not letting go. I still walk down the hall with her hanging onto my wrist, dragging along, yelling "No"!
I tell the ladies running the desk to call the police or Sunny to tell them this lady is getting violent, which by then she was, tightening her grip on my arm, shouting "NO"! Louder and louder.
Then I manage to break her grip without causing her any pain, which was my concern, walk away, head downstairs to the bar, make a beeline for Sunny and tell him about the bullshit she pulled in the room, that I will probably never return, have a lovely night and bye.
He didn't seem particularly shocked or surprised but did say "Sorry, sometimes crazy lady. " Yes, I know.
And with that I walked to my motor scooter, hopped on and rode back to my apartment with the all too often lately fresh new appreciation for my sweet and lovely mid 20's post-graduate but still sometimes on again university girlfriend who is apparently beyond extatic about every little freckle and flaw on my body and takes great and glorious pleasure in draining me of all possible sex fluids whenever and however I want her to.
Ah, perhaps that is the most "loving, sexy and chemistry-building" result of the Patpong gogo and beer bar approach to customer relations. LOL.
As always, YMMV.
Horny Cock
01-27-25, 11:28
I could not access Fiwfans, then when it opened it could not find any girl.
YouTube shows police action in involving Fiwfans. I could not understand Thai, but it looks busted. Can any bro explain?
https://www.youtube.com/live/cQ8aPfU0yYM?si=qac-9xioRjgf4VdMYes, the app still works.
EverythingThai
01-27-25, 12:12
Yes, the app still works.You my man have just proved that you're not located inside Thailand. The website, as there is no app, is not down, but it is blocked in Thailand just like all the other sideline websites, except for the one that I posted below, so for any user that would like to access this website while they're in Thailand they need to use a VPN but the court will will shut it all down soon unless it is hosted by a foreign company.
https://www.fanfinfin.co
Ive been holding on to this little secret for a while and now I am passing it on to my ISG brothers.
And then from Twitter: https://x.com/x9hm9r9wydjalgm?s=21&t=244Hhq1hO438RxYz3PzrPA
Search Thai sideline #sideline
Then hit up the admins you have used in the past on Fiw Fans on their lines. 90% were admins and not the lady you were chatting to. They will send you their rosters and most have started telegram groups.
Thank me later
Have fun boys.All rhe postings I see on fanfinfin are old and it appears they do not include agents.
In addition many of the agents have done away with their telegram groups over the past 48 hours in response.
In the FiwFans forum you will find a video of a press conference held by the Thai police. It seems FiwFans has been under investigation for the past 2 years. Initially the reason was for underage and trafficking. And they actually found this to be true. They also have the entire money trail mapped out, and the proceeds are absolutely staggering. Principles over the last few years all made close to or over 1 million US dollars and I would imagine that no taxes were paid on this. The police also mentioned going after some of the agents, I believe mainly for the ones that were trafficking and having underage.
The hotels used were also mentioned.
One of the other side line sites is down as well and I said above many of the telegram groups for specific agents have had all their messages erased or the groups are totally gone.
The police reported that there were over 40,000 workers that participated on the site of the last 4 years. Judging from the fact that some of the telegram groups had 10,000 Plus members I would imagine that the number of customers over the four years would probably at least be 250,000 or more.
This is definitely a game changer at least for the time being. Since the site is mainly utilized by local men, who would have gone to soapies two decades ago, but switched to sideline because of its discrete nature, I am sure this will be quite the disruptor.
But, as with this profession I would imagine that something will come along to replace it.
Captain Solo
01-27-25, 13:54
I stayed 3 nights at the Wuroburi Resort at the South end of Soi 4 near the big park, 3 star only $35 night, breakfast buffet is crap.
Checked Nana Plaza bars, gogo girls look bad and sad under the harsh incandescent lights. Girls actualy look prettier and more appealing eating their rice bowls under soft dim light in the hall way.
Soi 4 had about 30 street girls of all sizes and colors, some very hot. Half a dozen Viet girls work early morning, loud and profane like sailors.
I got close and talked to couple girls. A tiny 4 ft young heavily made up girl wanted 3000 bahts ST. Others wanted 2,000 bahts. I found a beautiful blonde Kazach spinner, light skin, looked Euro, offered her 1,000 and agreed on 1500. She was a real blonde 24 pretty like a movie star, nice, gentle personality, walked half a mile hand in hand with to the hotel like a GF. Looked like an old chunky mamasan was supervising that group of girl.
She was a horny GF in bed, full DFK, BB deep throat, BBFS, energetic, we were fucking each other while I sucked on her pretty lips. She was in passion, moaning, hissing, calling out God and Allah hehe.
She washed me before after, a very beautiful girl, nice, clean, pleasant, sexy. She said on 2 month tourist visa, go home 1 month then back to work. Much better and easier than bar girls and FIWFANS.
CCRider1008
01-27-25, 16:33
Soi 4 had about 30 street girls of all sizes and colors, some very hot. Half a dozen Viet girls work early morning, loud and profane like sailors.
I found a beautiful blonde Kazach spinner, light skin, looked Euro, offered her 1,000 and agreed on 1500. She was a real blonde 24 pretty like a movie star, nice, gentle personality, walked half a mile hand in hand with to the hotel like a GF. Looked like an old chunky mamasan was supervising that group of girl..First, I cannot tell difference between Thai and Vietnamese in terms of looks and since I don't speak language I wouldn't know what nationality they were.
Two years ago there was absolutely 0 Russian or white women hooking on the street in Soi 4. Nothing but Thai and occasional African. They were all huddled directly outside nana sitting on motorbikes etc. I walked occasionally down soi 4 but not too far past main beer bars. So where on soi 4 did you find this mix?
ZenosArrow11
01-27-25, 17:25
First, thanks to all for the great advice. Arrived BKK last night / this morning at 2 am. I was near brain-dead with fatigue after 25 hours of flights, but fuck that, I'm in Bangkok! I l walked around the neighborhood, found a pretty cute freelancer among many lady boys and -say-no girls even at that time of night. Back to my hotel for 2000 short time, not really GFE but still had a good time. Slept like a dead thing until 330 this afternoon!
One thing I'm not clear on is how to tell if a beer bar bar fines the girls or are they freelancers? I'm probably missing something obvious like, "just ask the bartender, fucknuts" but I figured somebody might have a quick answer here.
HorseTrader
01-27-25, 19:02
So I follow him back into the bar. We sit and chat about what I want and does he have a girl who will accommodate. I tell him exactly what I want. See above for my definition of Real Sex. He nods and smiles, "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like"?
I guess this should have been your first clue that everything that follows would be just the next step in the scam. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I didn't count up, but it sounds like the lesson was expensive. I've only been to Patong a couple of times, but each time I was either scammed or felt a scam coming.
Reminds me of November when I had a terrible massage, but while sitting outside putting my shoes on the mamasan introduced me to a new girl. She recommended LT at my hotel where the new girl would do Real Sex, per EihTooms definition. Price only 2000 for girl plus 300 to shop. I declined and price went down to 200 to shop plus 1000 girl. All along the new girl had been cuddling and caressing me. I was horny, the girl was young, perhaps 22, but not hot. I declined and found another partner elsewhere.
The next day I came back for a 300 baht oil massage with new girl, which was crap. The new girl wanted a lot of money for extras and she clearly didn't have the attitude to make me happy, so I declined again. I can only imagine how bad her all night services would have been for 1000 baht.
Sorry you had to learn that way, it happens to most punters from time to time. Thanks for the report.
Larbmoo555
01-27-25, 19:14
Ah, perhaps that is the most "loving, sexy and chemistry-building" result of the Patpong gogo and beer bar approach to customer relations. LOL.
As always, YMMV.In Patpong I got BBFS from a young girl in Pink Panther, she wanted +1000 for it. But generally I don't ask for BBFS the first time, and I don't do CIP (have not yet had my vasectomy). It just scares away too many of the girls, particularly the more beautiful / younger ones. I'll wait until meeting the 2nd or 3rd time then bring it up (I live here so have time to play the long game). At that point the girls already feel comfortable with me.
One time at Thermae I asked a girl "blowjob no condom, ok?" And she said +1000. I was like ummm what? +1000 for BBBJ? And she replied "oh, I thought you meant sex no condom". I said no that's not what I meant, but I'll take it!
HorseTrader
01-27-25, 19:20
One thing I'm not clear on is how to tell if a beer bar bar fines the girls or are they freelancers? I'm probably missing something obvious like, "just ask the bartender, fucknuts" but I figured somebody might have a quick answer here.I just ask the girl before I ever buy her a drink. Don't forget that some are there just for drinks.
Larbmoo555
01-27-25, 19:43
You my man have just proved that you're not located inside Thailand. The website, as there is no app, is not down, but it is blocked in Thailand just like all the other sideline websites, except for the one that I posted below, so for any user that would like to access this website while they're in Thailand they need to use a VPN but the court will will shut it all down soon unless it is hosted by a foreign company.EverythingThai I am a long-time reader but first-time poster here. I would message you but haven't quite worked out how to buy bitcoin. I saw your posts about T-ded. I have been living in Bangkok for the past 6-7 years, and going to T-ded once or twice / month for the past 2 of those. Young chubby farang guy with blonde hair, I stick out like a sore thumb in t-ded. I am usually there solo or with Thai guy friends. My gut feeling is we've probably seen each other, but in any case, if you (or anyone else here) see me please stop by and say Hi, even if I have my hand up my some girl's skirt (I am always in the lounge area rather than the KTV rooms). I speak Thai and am always looking for more expat or Thai friends to go to these types of places with.
As for a contribution from me, you (and anyone else here) should also check out Zeed Club Sutthisan, which is a few doors down from t-ded. I know their reviews suck on gmaps but it's actually a nice place, the service there is far better than t-ded from both the staff & girls but the main issue is the girls aren't as numerous or as pretty imo. Lots of girls from Laos. ST there was likewise 2500 all-in but they don't have their own hotel like T-ded does. RCA2 just opened up between Zeed & T-ded, another Thai go-go that shut down long ago but is now back. I will be checking it out soon but my feeling is it's the same deal as Zeed Club. I don't know whether any of these girls or even the mama-sans / papa-sans speak English but my guess would be no. Rainbow Club up the street also has girls that will ST but you need to make it clear to the mama-san that's what you want beforehand, because most there will not go ST (and realistically you should speak some Thai). Rainbow Club is more focused on drinking / eating with friends rather than p4 p.
So I am on my way back to my motor scooter parked at Foodland on Patpong 1 and I see a gogo bar with a new name; Virgin. New to me anyway.
Sunny, the papasan, rushes out the door to meet and introduce himself to me. Points to all the girls on the stage, many look good, and assures me he will help me find what I want. Really? Hey, I am open to establishing such a relationship with a gogo bar papasan or mamasan since doing so has worked out very well for me in my experience.
So I follow him back into the bar. We sit and chat about what I want and does he have a girl who will accommodate. I tell him exactly what I want. See above for my definition of Real Sex. He nods and smiles, "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like"?
One very sexy young slim but curvy girl, a real female for sure, suddenly arrives on the stage. Sunny points to her and asks if I like her. I do. He points and calls her down. Even though she had been staring at me / us from the stage while she moved erotically on stage, his pointing to her to come join me seemed to take her by pleasant surprise.
In the booth all went as typically loving, stroking, affectionate and chemistry-building as I had by now grown to appreciate as the Patpong style. And the Kid was into as well.
Again, after a couple of LDs for my girl and Sunny the papasan who now knows that if all goes well with this lady according to what I want and for what he clearly understands that I want then I will return many, many, many times and bring like-minded friends with me as well, I still need to make sure May-nay or whatever her name sounded like in a loud bar is on the exact same page as I am about it.
And put it on my Google Translate. She read it then sullenly put her phone down and asked if we were going to use a condom. I said that was not the agreement.
I say No. She says No. Now I am opening the door anyway while she is grabbing my wrist and not letting go. I still walk down the hall with her hanging onto my wrist, dragging along, yelling "No"!
I tell the ladies running the desk to call the police or Sunny to tell them this lady is getting violent, which by then she was, tightening her grip on my arm, shouting "NO"! Louder and louder.
Then I manage to break her grip without causing her any pain, which was my concern, walk away, head downstairs to the bar, make a beeline for Sunny and tell him about the bullshit she pulled in the room, that I will probably never return, have a lovely night and bye.
He didn't seem particularly shocked or surprised but did say "Sorry, sometimes crazy lady. " Yes, I know.
Ugh, what a nightmare. Sounds like Sunny was scamming from the start, so good you managed to maintain self-control enough to get out of it without anything worse happening.
I remember a long time ago (15-20 years?) Patong had a bad reputation for scams (similar to the arab's bar on Soi Cowboy), but last few years seen several good reports from there. Obviously this "Virgin" go-go is a place to stay away from.
I guess this should have been your first clue that everything that follows would be just the next step in the scam. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I didn't count up, but it sounds like the lesson was expensive. I've only been to Patong a couple of times, but each time I was either scammed or felt a scam coming.
Reminds me of November when I had a terrible massage, but while sitting outside putting my shoes on the mamasan introduced me to a new girl. She recommended LT at my hotel where the new girl would do Real Sex, per EihTooms definition. Price only 2000 for girl plus 300 to shop. I declined and price went down to 200 to shop plus 1000 girl. All along the new girl had been cuddling and caressing me. I was horny, the girl was young, perhaps 22, but not hot. I declined and found another partner elsewhere.
The next day I came back for a 300 baht oil massage with new girl, which was crap. The new girl wanted a lot of money for extras and she clearly didn't have the attitude to make me happy, so I declined again. I can only imagine how bad her all night services would have been for 1000 baht.
Sorry you had to learn that way, it happens to most punters from time to time. Thanks for the report.Well, I can attest to the fact that at least in my experience an "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like" response from a mamasan or papasan with whom the LD / tip for valuable intel exchange relationship has been established does not necessarily lead to a scam but rather to a pretty darn good result.
I just wouldn't take it to mean "all" of the girls in a bar will do BBFSCIP with me. That would absolutely be too good to be true coming from anyone managing girls in a bar just as it is reading anything of the kind from punters here regarding the girls in Pattaya or wherever. But this papasan didn't make that particular outlandish claim. And that is why I had the full conversation about it myself with the one candidate I interviewed. And when all the boxes are checked with the girl at that point too, one can not just assume it will all be a scam from that point forward.
At that point I am willing to go forward and give them room to show me and it is rare for that much pre-barfine negotiation agreement to go as sour as this one did. Not sure how much of a lesson to take from it. I mean, I certainly wouldn't now automatically assume every gogo girl who says Yes upfront with a smile to the 3 items on my check box list is probably going to scam me and it's time to move on is the proper lesson to learn from this experience, not to mention with full backing from the mamasan / papasan.
Yes, the entire Patpong bullshit and no Real Sex expedition that night cost me about 6,000 baht I think, with roughly 4,500 of it going to Virgin for drinks, barfine and the 700 baht I gave her for being naked and giving me 1 minute of lousy BBBJ foreplay. But it did buy drinks, chat, mild groping and lap dance type junk in several gogo and beer bars, a couple of stops I made and only bought myself a drink that I didn't bother to mention in that FR. And at least I salvaged 2,800 baht by not paying the scammer the full 3,500 agreed to "if" she had not been scamming me.
That is not so terrible in order to find out what is and isn't worth it in a Bangkok red light district. Particularly when getting Real Sex on any one night or place is not too critically important anyway but getting valuable intel about it is. I never would have learned anything about the place in terms of Real results unless I took the best offer and situation of the night to the limit to really find out.
Ugh, what a nightmare. Sounds like Sunny was scamming from the start, so good you managed to maintain self-control enough to get out of it without anything worse happening.
I remember a long time ago (15-20 years?) Patong had a bad reputation for scams (similar to the arab's bar on Soi Cowboy), but last few years seen several good reports from there. Obviously this "Virgin" go-go is a place to stay away from.My first visits to Patpong decades ago was when many of us experienced the dangerous upstairs ping-pong ball show scams. Thugs handing us drink bills 10 times the actual amount and not budging from blocking the doorways until we paid up. But I still managed to get past them without paying more than what was fair and spelled out on the menu.
I had some very good and easy upfront negotiated agreements for BBFSCIP with a few sexy Patpong gogo bargirls in the more recent past. Just pre-Covid. But my 2-3 attempts the other night did not show much promise for more post-Covid Patpong experiences.
FriendlyGuyHi
01-28-25, 06:03
I visited Thailand on and off over the last 15 years. This particular trip is a longer one where I am testing the waters on a possible semi retirement here. Over the last eight weeks, I became a little disillusioned as I've experienced some price gouging, some mishaps in hotels as well as the recent spike in air pollution. But as I reflect back on my Monday night, I'm reminded for why Bangkok is heaven on earth.
Recently moved into a condo in the Phrom Phong area. The building has great amenities and I'm within spitting distance of EmSphere, EmQuartier, etc. Bangkok has always been a city where you can get what you want with an arms reach, but having one's own place in a shopping and dining hub definitely improves things. Last night, I fancied something a bit more local so I went to the local restaurant downstairs and had a hot piping bowl of noodles. After devouring that plate, I took a 10 minute walk around the neighborhood and settled in for a 90 minute oil massage. She nearly broke me, but I felt rejuvenated. I decided to walk down to Soi Cowboy And try out some new bars that I don't normally frequent. Susie Wong was my first visit. It was dark inside, and the talent was slightly above average. But they didn't hustle for drinks, and the intimate show was appealing. I Motion to one of the girls to come sit next to me. She was about 5'3", Spinner type body, but with larger natural see cup breasts. After some chitchat, she jumped on top of my lap and proceeded to grind me for the next 10 minutes, whilst taking my hands and making sure that I massaged her tits. She playfully reached down and slid her hands up my shorts and pulled me out under the counter. She adjusted herself so that she was sandwiching my cock between her ass cheeks and proceeded to grind harder. She asked me to take her home, but I wanted to explore a bit more. She gave me her LINE ID and I received no fewer than 10 messages from her since last night. Adorable 22 year-old from Isaan.
I then proceeded to Long Gun. I had walked by this place on numerous occasions, but I always assumed that it was a rip off joint. But I could not walk past the sultry full chested beauty that was tempting me inside. We entered and sat in the front row next to the stage. This bar is famous for its live shows that it run runs three times a night. You want it they've got it. Ping-pong, balls, blowing out candles, opening beer bottles, blowing darts to balloons, etc. And the whistles. Dear God, those whistles. It was like a symphony. Into the uninitiated, it may seem crass. But the crowd was loving it, and you couldn't help but get caught up in the excitement. Meanwhile, this beauty beside me kept complaining that the air conditioning was too high and showing me the effect it was having on her nipples. She kept cuddling up for warmth and telling me how much more comfortable she was since switching from silicone to saline implants. Who was I to argue? We went through the typical, hey will you buy my friend some drinks? But soon enough, I was surrounded by three women with different distinct body types and hands and lips are being exchanged. The tits and ass on this beauty were very hard to resist. But we exchanged line and agreed to meet up in two days for dinner and drinks and more fun. Off to the last place.
Crazy house was still rocking at 2 AM. My regular waitress sat me down and brought me my regular drink. Within seconds, I spotted a girl with milky white skin and the softest breast I've seen in a while. These were getting into the the / F category, but still somehow pert. Ass like a marshmallow. And to top it off a bubbly, vivacious, can do attitude. When we got home, the highlights included shower, HJ, BJ, DT, 69, multiple positions, and mind blowing rimming. And somehow the session ended with her thanking me profusely.
This was a Monday night.
Shame on me for ever doubting Bangkok.
To think that this evening started with a bowl of soup.
F*ck me.
UglyAzzMan
01-30-25, 01:39
The Exodus away from NanaPlaza for Chinese new year is real.
Rani 4 and 5 are devoid of Hot Girls.
BlackPantherXX
01-30-25, 07:46
Hi,
I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:
1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?
2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??
3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).
4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.).
5/ should I expect a lot of flakes from that app??
6/ how much should I expect to pay TF girls in comparison with the street / bar girls??
7/ All hotels in the Twister / thermae area are girl friendly, no matter how many you bring to your room? (3 some max).
Thanks.
CCRider1008
01-30-25, 17:14
Hi,
I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:
1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?
2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??
3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).
4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.)..I've used a lot.
1. Yes to upgrade.
2. Depends on how long in Thailand. If a week or two I start a week before I leave. Too early is a waste of time.
PHI you might want to also use DIA. I got more results from that than Pinaylove.
3/4. Sites like TF and PL have a lot of girls looking for boyfriends. So if using for FLs and sex you need to weed these girls out quickly. I usually say in my profile something like "American businessman traveling holiday to. Looking for pretty fun companions while in town". You don't want to be rude and gruff about it but also don; t want to write description like you're looking for love either. Once you message a few times get quickly onto WHATS APP or LINE. There you want to get more specific about what you're looking for.
5. Fucking a ton of flakes online. My first 2 trips to Thailand I spent way to much effort online game. I'd plan to mix online and p4 p in beer bars or gogos so you have enjoyable time.
6. Pretty much same. They all can be talked down in my experience.
7. I only stay at JW and Sheraton Grande. They don't give a shit about girls. And quite frankly I don't give a shit about any looks I get bringing them into the hotel. No one has ever said boo to me.
CCRider1008
01-30-25, 17:16
I visited Thailand on and off over the last 15 years. This particular trip is a longer one where I am testing the waters on a possible semi retirement here. Over the last eight weeks, I became a little disillusioned as I've experienced some price gouging, some mishaps in hotels as well as the recent spike in air pollution. But as I reflect back on my Monday night, I'm reminded for why Bangkok is heaven on earth.Yeah they will love you until you run out of money. But beats retiring in some boring place with old hags running around. Enjoy it.
EverythingThai
01-30-25, 18:56
Hi,
I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:
1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?
2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??
3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).
4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.).
5/ should I expect a lot of flakes from that app??
6/ how much should I expect to pay TF girls in comparison with the street / bar girls??
7/ All hotels in the Twister / thermae area are girl friendly, no matter how many you bring to your room? (3 some max).
Thanks.Scroll down and ask that in the Thai Friendly thread, not in the Bangkok section. All your questions were answered there already. Or if you dont know how to scroll down, copy and paste this link into your browser : http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly
BlackPantherXX
01-30-25, 22:20
Scroll down and ask that in the Thai Friendly thread, not in the Bangkok section. All your questions were answered there already. Or if you dont know how to scroll down, copy and paste this link into your browser : http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-FriendlyOh, didn't see we had a thread for that. Thanks. Will do. I just read some of your advices on thread too. Great insight man.
Hi,
I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:
1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?
2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??
3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).
4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.).
5/ should I expect a lot of flakes from that app??
6/ how much should I expect to pay TF girls in comparison with the street / bar girls??
7/ All hotels in the Twister / thermae area are girl friendly, no matter how many you bring to your room? (3 some max).
Thanks.CCrider has given you the information that you need.
Don't message the girls before your trip, save it until you want to meet. They get a lot of timewasters from all around the world messaging them with no intention of a meetup. You will find that girls will flake out if you arrange to meet a day or even a few hours early.
I get Premium a day or so before I arrive and don't use it until I want to meet, I am direct asking them for ST now, set a price and ask for their line. I use line if I want to ask for something that's not standard such as anal.
ChoduMadan
01-31-25, 10:28
Try Thai Friendly, its quite time consuming, but can hit a super one at times.
Gents,
First post here after reading BKK forum from September forward. Than you all for the wealth of information. After my trip, in addition to reports, I hope to pay it back in what little way I am able.
25 hours from now, I'll land in Bangkok. I'm 66, slim, very nice and respectful. I do not speak a lick of Thai. I'm not very interested in short-time encounters, as my taste runs toward all night GFE rendezvous. I'm not made of money, but I'm also not going to skimp. I take it from this forum that short time is more common than long, and that for instance, bar girls, gogo dancers and freelancers are tough to lure to a long-term encounter until it's very late at night, if then. I am aware I could use escort services, but they're a bit painful in the wallet, and I much prefer spending at least a little time with a girl before sealing the deal to make sure that she's a good fit. I'm also not interested in hunting for sideliners, university girls, and such as I'm probably too old to get their attention, and I'd rather spend the time fucking than hunting.
Are my assumptions correct? If so, I would be grateful for any advice. I have three weeks in Thailand, I'll almost certainly never be able to come back and I want to make the most of it.
Many thanks.
Spending a week in BKK and wanted to share my experience so far. Went to two Nurus, a gogo, a soapie, and Thermae. Here are my takes:
Nurus: Tried Stella on Soi 10 and Ola Ola on 22. Both were great in terms of Nuru service; excellent skills from both ladies. If I had to choose one to revisit, I'd go with Stella. The masseuse there was better overall, but that doesn't take anything away from the other one. In bed, both were good, but as always, it depends on what you expect.
Gogo: Went to Billboard easily one of the best. Also checked out Red Dragon and saw some good-looking ones, but they were asking 440B for lady drinks. What? There is where I left and went to Billboard.
Found one lady who was really funny and pleasant, so I took her out (4000 b + 1000 b for BF - normally 700b, but the mamasan claimed the price hike was due to Chinese New Year. Sounded like BS, but whatever, I paid). Had a great time with her, grabbed a beer at a bar, talked for over an hour, then went to the room. Wow! Loved it. Not as good as the next one I will describe, but still an amazing experience. The only thing I have to remark is she did not take a shower before the bed and she did not ask me to take it. She started the gymnastic even without protection but then she asked me to ware it because she doesn't take pills.
Soapie: Wanted to try Tara. Guys, it's pricey (8000 be for the model I chose, but I saw prices up to 19000 b! But totally worth it). Would go again tomorrow if I could. Stunning ladies, clean place, and the girl was incredibly skilled. The papasan was helpful, gave all the info I needed, and didn't pressure me to choose. The experience was fantastic she was amazing in the tub and even better in bed.
Thermae: Lots of mixed reviews about this place, but I've always been lucky here and this time was no different. Found a beautiful, funny girl who agreed to grab a drink before the "gymnastics. " Spent about 30-40 minutes chatting and laughing, then went to the room. Very good sex (not as great as Tara, but still very good). Damage: 2500 b. Only negative she asked to wear protection also for BJ. Boring... Ok, for once, who cares.
Still have two nights left. Probably spending one with the Thermae girl and one with the gogo girl. Plan is to have dinner together and then head to the room. But not sure I will do that yet.
Let's see how if I feel tomorrow - will update.
Enjoy!
Newton York
02-01-25, 07:46
I visited Thailand on and off over the last 15 years. This particular trip is a longer one where I am testing the waters on a possible semi retirement here. Over the last eight weeks, I became a little disillusioned as I've experienced some price gouging, some mishaps in hotels as well as the recent spike in air pollution. But as I reflect back on my Monday night, I'm reminded for why Bangkok is heaven on earth.
Recently moved into a condo in the Phrom Phong area. The building has great amenities and I'm within spitting distance of EmSphere, EmQuartier, etc. Bangkok has always been a city where you can get what you want with an arms reach, but having one's own place in a shopping and dining hub definitely improves things. Last night, I fancied something a bit more local so I went to the local restaurant downstairs and had a hot piping bowl of noodles. After devouring that plate, I took a 10 minute walk around the neighborhood and settled in for a 90 minute oil massage. She nearly broke me, but I felt rejuvenated. I decided to walk down to Soi Cowboy And try out some new bars that I don't normally frequent. Susie Wong was my first visit. It was dark inside, and the talent was slightly above average. But they didn't hustle for drinks, and the intimate show was appealing. I Motion to one of the girls to come sit next to me. She was about 5'3", Spinner type body, but with larger natural see cup breasts. After some chitchat, she jumped on top of my lap and proceeded to grind me for the next 10 minutes, whilst taking my hands and making sure that I massaged her tits. She playfully reached down and slid her hands up my shorts and pulled me out under the counter. She adjusted herself so that she was sandwiching my cock between her ass cheeks and proceeded to grind harder. She asked me to take her home, but I wanted to explore a bit more. She gave me her LINE ID and I received no fewer than 10 messages from her since last night. Adorable 22 year-old from Isaan.
I then proceeded to Long Gun. I had walked by this place on numerous occasions, but I always assumed that it was a rip off joint. But I could not walk past the sultry full chested beauty that was tempting me inside. We entered and sat in the front row next to the stage. This bar is famous for its live shows that it run runs three times a night. You want it they've got it. Ping-pong, balls, blowing out candles, opening beer bottles, blowing darts to balloons, etc. And the whistles. Dear God, those whistles. It was like a symphony. Into the uninitiated, it may seem crass. But the crowd was loving it, and you couldn't help but get caught up in the excitement. Meanwhile, this beauty beside me kept complaining that the air conditioning was too high and showing me the effect it was having on her nipples. She kept cuddling up for warmth and telling me how much more comfortable she was since switching from silicone to saline implants. Who was I to argue? We went through the typical, hey will you buy my friend some drinks? But soon enough, I was surrounded by three women with different distinct body types and hands and lips are being exchanged. The tits and ass on this beauty were very hard to resist. But we exchanged line and agreed to meet up in two days for dinner and drinks and more fun. Off to the last place.
Crazy house was still rocking at 2 AM. My regular waitress sat me down and brought me my regular drink. Within seconds, I spotted a girl with milky white skin and the softest breast I've seen in a while. These were getting into the the / F category, but still somehow pert. Ass like a marshmallow. And to top it off a bubbly, vivacious, can do attitude. When we got home, the highlights included shower, HJ, BJ, DT, 69, multiple positions, and mind blowing rimming. And somehow the session ended with her thanking me profusely.
This was a Monday night.
Shame on me for ever doubting Bangkok.
To think that this evening started with a bowl of soup.
F*ck me.I've been saying this for months now, maybe even years. Bangkok is heaven on earth! By the love of Lucifer, it couldn't be more obvious. Great food, ok weather, safe and most importantly, affordable and varied options for chicks. I'm so glad you discovered Bangkok, and I've been doing everything I can to try to come back again just to experience it once more. There are many days now I'm seriously considering quitting my job just so I can go back, that's how much Thailand has gotten into my blood.
I hope you continue to enjoy it my friend, to think so many of our fellow hobbyists do nothing but complain about Thailand, when they are lucky enough to actually be living there full time. I'd give my soul to be rich enough to retire comfortably in Bangkok for the rest of my life.
First, thanks to all for the great advice. Arrived BKK last night / this morning at 2 am. I was near brain-dead with fatigue after 25 hours of flights, but fuck that, I'm in Bangkok! I l walked around the neighborhood, found a pretty cute freelancer among many lady boys and -say-no girls even at that time of night. Back to my hotel for 2000 short time, not really GFE but still had a good time. Slept like a dead thing until 330 this afternoon!
One thing I'm not clear on is how to tell if a beer bar bar fines the girls or are they freelancers? I'm probably missing something obvious like, "just ask the bartender, fucknuts" but I figured somebody might have a quick answer here.If they're in the bar, they almost certainly 'work' there. The girls are very territorial. Their only reason for being there and they only thing they want is farang money (and yaba). They are not letting some random be* off the street come into their bar and take their money.
ElDoradoNola83
02-02-25, 06:57
Hey it'll be my first time in Bangkok. I have mongered before but only in countries where it's legal or in practice legal. Also only in brothels. So this is a new experience for me. Yes I've read the forum but what are some tips for newbies like me?
Daytonamonger
02-02-25, 13:22
I've been saying this for months now, maybe even years. Bangkok is heaven on earth! By the love of Lucifer, it couldn't be more obvious. Great food, ok weather, safe and most importantly, affordable and varied options for chicks. I'm so glad you discovered Bangkok, and I've been doing everything I can to try to come back again just to experience it once more. There are many days now I'm seriously considering quitting my job just so I can go back, that's how much Thailand has gotten into my blood.
I hope you continue to enjoy it my friend, to think so many of our fellow hobbyists do nothing but complain about Thailand, when they are lucky enough to actually be living there full time. I'd give my soul to be rich enough to retire comfortably in Bangkok for the rest of my life.Brother Newton, I've been reading a few of your posts and I find them quite entertaining and interesting. I know where you're coming from on the quitting your job thing. But, As far as quitting your job is your job worth keeping? Is there some kind of benefit or light at the end of the tunnel keeping you there? If no. I get it. Thailand has been in my blood since I first touched down there 13 years ago but as a 33 year old who had barely anything saved for retirement quitting wasn't in the cards for me. Fast forward that 13 years and I've been working like a dog sometimes only getting 4 days off a month total working 10 to 11 hours a day or more and now I have a nice chunk of cash stashed away for retirement and a benefit of flying for free domestically and very inexpensively internationally only a short 5 month period away if and when I do decide to call it quits. After 18 years in my profession I am ready to walk away but do have the benefit of schedule flexibility and 5 weeks of paid vacation plus the ability to "buy" time off by "selling" my shifts to a coworker, which allows me to be able to take months off at a time if I choose to and have the extra cash to do so. As much as I want to leave and live in Thailand full time I can't bring myself to do it at least until I get that 5 months and flight benefits for life.
Are you thinking of quitting just to go to Thailand only to come back and find another job and continue to work? If the answer is yes, think long and hard before doing so. The reason I ask is that last year I spent 4 months straight over in Thailand broken up by a few days in Jakarta to reset my entry visa. About half way into the 4th month things weren't the same as they were in month 1 or 2. Thailand had become a little "ho hum" and bills were starting to accumulate at home so I left a week early and then got back to work building up cash to pay the bills and for my next trip which I'm taking in less than 5 days. This trip will be about 3 to 6 weeks in length. I will admit tho after landing in the states I regretting leaving early the first day I was back paying USA prices for food, beverage, gas, entertainment, etc. Etc.
Depending on your job / career. You might be able to leave and easily come back and find another job making a compareable salary. If that's the case go for it and enjoy your time in the LOS but if finding another job might prove difficult give it a bit of thought first.
Hey it'll be my first time in Bangkok. I have mongered before but only in countries where it's legal or in practice legal. Also only in brothels. So this is a new experience for me. Yes I've read the forum but what are some tips for newbies like me?This question has been repeatedly and patiently answered previously. If you have read the forum and not found sufficient info, you might get some better results by asking a specific question (s). The "Reports of Distinction" is a good read, if you have not already visited that section.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction
Sam.
Philip Marlow
02-02-25, 16:59
Hey it'll be my first time in Bangkok. I have mongered before but only in countries where it's legal or in practice legal. Also only in brothels. So this is a new experience for me. Yes I've read the forum but what are some tips for newbies like me?You said you read the forum, but did you read the effing forum?
Rest assured that prostitution is at least in practice legal in Thailand. MPs that have websites, like Honey Bee, will usually list the services available- handjob, blowjob, full service etc. They're not hiding what they do.
EverythingThai
02-02-25, 19:26
Hey it'll be my first time in Bangkok. I have mongered before but only in countries where it's legal or in practice legal. Also only in brothels. So this is a new experience for me. Yes I've read the forum but what are some tips for newbies like me?Do not overthink your stay or you will have a terrible time and use all pricing as a guide that you read about here. Pay more or less sometimes and it will all even out in the end.
Overview of Bangkok options.
So many debates and so many questions in my private messages and in the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4 P. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, and Tinder.
WE Chat is quite easy as everything is out in the open, but watch out for ladyboys. The ladies all post very clearly what their intentions are. It is the other sites that are a little more challenging. There is a people nearby feature that can be used to track down the girls near you. Within about 15 KM. We chat is completely free and all the rest of them offer free options and paid options to enhance your experience. For the sake of this post, I will use Thai Friendly as the example as it is the most popular and widely discussed on this board and is the only one that is worth paying for in my opinion in Bangkok if you are looking for P4 P. First, I will clear up all the misconceptions for everyone. Regular members can message once every 10 minutes but if the girl is too popular, free accounts cannot message her. The premium account comes with unlimited massaging to all members with no waiting time between sent messages and your messages are put at the top of the lady's inbox. You can also hide things like your online status and joined date. These are valuable tools. Well worth the 800 baht per month. For all you skeptics, any decent looking lady gets thousands of messages each day. If you don't believe me, ask the next girl you chat with. She will tell you she just can't reply to everyone so having your message go to the top of her inbox, is an excellent advantage over being a free member. The BKK section is about 50% normal girls and 50% P4 P, don't talk with me about Pattaya as this is not the Pattaya thread. However, it is not easy to unlock 100% of the P4 P ladies. Some only do it part time and some are selective. For the hottest girls, search 18-24 year old. From there, send a message saying "Do you want to make money? With this proven method, you will score. The university girls looking for a quick tuition fix are your targets. They will offer the best GFE with mostly no mention of a condom. You can get them for 3-4 K baht for the night, LT. This is strictly P4 P guys. I have other methods I use to find the good ladies for short or long time girlfriends. Finally, mongers get so obsessed with Line. Line is not any magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just heir preferred method of contact.
Next, freelancers and the bar scene. I frequent the Hillary bars, Levels, Flamingo and Mixx. Climax used to be the go to place, but it closed for some time. It is now open again just recently. However, I have not been back yet. As for Thermae, It mainly appeals to the Japanese crowd if that's your thing, please know It is hit and miss for most farangs. 3000ST is the average. Never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you will lose all control.
Next, massage shops. I choose Snow White for the hands down best PSE / GFE experience. Every time I get multiple pops with BBFS and sometimes CIP. The prices are approximately 1,900 baht for 1 hour, 2,300 baht for 90 minutes, and 2,500 baht for 2 hours. I never pay upfront. However, I always get BBFS there but CIP only 50% of the time with a tip of around 1000 baht I am not a fan of A+, but it is available with about 70% of the ladies. When I am looking for the kind of Thai girls who normally go with Asians, I go to Ratchada, Rama 9, Sukhumvit Soi 31,33. For other areas, there is Soi 26, Soi 24, and Soi 24/1. The famous Tulip is opposite Soi 55 Thonglor on Sukhumvit. This place has seen better days through. This meaning the lineup can be god awful to average, but never like ti used to be. For anyone looking for Dao, she is now at Snow White. Honorable mention goes to Mango on Soi 24. Decent lineup every day that is consistent and by paying a little bit more, you can get BBFS with most of the girls.
Go go bars and bars with bar fines. In Soi Cowboy, Crazy House. The bar fine for me has always been 800-1000 Baht and I love this place for the nude dancing. However, there is a constant pressure to buy lady drinks, which may not appeal to some of the guys. Beware of this lady drink hustle, as you may buy a few while the lady has another customer lined up for a bar fine. I always choose my girl and then negotiate the bar fine first. Then I pay the bar fine and sit and relax with the girl and drink. I often go ST for 3000 to the ST room at the end of the soi or LT to my condo for 4-5 K baht depending on the girls rates. Keep in mind, I mostly never discuss rates with the girls and give them these prices as they are the going rates and fair plus a tip if they take care of me well. Additionally, I almost always get what I want such as BBFS. I think a lot of that has to do with my easy going attitude. While drinking before we go, she can then have as many lady drinks as she wants. Keep note, with the many complaints of bill padding, the bar now asks you to sign every bill as you order and drink. 80% of the time, I have a good experience. In my humble opinion, the rest of Soi Cowboy is a waste of time. Maybe Baccara is worth a visit still, but that's it. The rest of the bars are full of drink queens and inconsistent line ups.
My go to places in Nana are Butterflies and Billboard. I mostly follow the same rules here. Billboard being the one where I refuse to buy lady drinks for any girl until after I have paid my bar fine. As for the bars, I like to go to many of the small bars on Soi 4, Morning Night and the many Hillary bars. Bar fines are about 700 baht and you can sometimes find a diamond in the ruff at these places. 80% of the time, I drank with the girls, then paid their bar fine, and took them for ST or LT and got a real GFE with BBFS and CIP. I always pay 3000ST and around 5000 LT plus a tip. Again, never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. I used to frequent Patpong, but I have not been back since before covid.
Some honorable mentions: The Soi 7 beer bars. They can be dead awful to amazing depending on the day. There is also Soi 22 where you will find a ton of massage shops and small bars at the top of the Soi and tucked into almost all of the side soils. There is also a little small bar and massage area that I have been to on Soi 20/1 that is quite fun. Then there is Soi 8 that houses a few BJ bars and massage shops, a small road off Asok that houses Som's Heaven with a new name I have forgotten, and the Soi 23 massage shops. I would not suggest picking up off the street, but if that's your thing, across from Nana Plaza in the hotel car park by the ATMs there are street hookers and also ones outside of Thermae.
Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3500ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this in mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. The Africans are sticking to Tinder these days, or trolling the streets, but I would advise against hiring any of them.
Moving to escort agencies. I never use them, end of story. I do not think it is necessary. Why,? Because you can call delivery over by using Thai Friendly or Tinder. I strongly suggest the upgrade to premium as I said above to eliminate the 10 minute waiting time. I know about the search work around to message the most popular girls, but who wants to mess with this to save the 800 Baht. Be careful who you message. Feel them out first, as there are a lot of normal girls on TF in Bangkok. Unlike Pattaya where 90% on TF are looking for customers. Do not ask "What are you looking for" Introduce yourself. Tell them whether you are on holiday or working here. Ask them what their job is. This will get you the info you want to know. However, you will know straight away with about 15%. It will be clear what they are looking for on their profile. However, don't be fooled. Some working girls will write they are looking for relationships, but they are still ready and willing to give it up for the baht. This is expanded more from the section I wrote above with another tip on finding out if they are willing to play if you are not comfortable with the "Do you want to make money" question.
Now, the local scene. For this, I use X, the Pimp, and T-Ded-99. The Pimp is located in Town and Town and T-Ded 99 is located in the Saphan Kwai bar area on Suthisan Rd. This takes some Thai language skills and some patience.
Let's start Thai Sideline girls. Now you can still find them on X. This will be hit and miss as most ladies will ignore farngs. Be polite but it is a crap shoot. Most encounters will happen in ST rooms that the girl will rent for the entire day to entertain clients or you will need to meet the girl at a local hotel of her choosing. This will be a completely different experience as the ladies will be dick scared and shy because of not speaking English. Service level will be a crap shoot, as well, but generally be cheaper than what we as expats normally pay. On average 800 Baht to 1500 Baht ST. Often, you will be trying to book through an admin who manages multiple ladies through several mobile phone and Line OA business accounts. What I like is they will send you a bunch of photos and a more accurate description of what's on offer with photos that don't have the face hidden and some are on the website. If you can speak Thai like me, you will do really well and get BBFS. If not, if you are on holiday, you will waste too much time. For expats, time is not really an issue.
The Pimp is a gentlemen's club in the Town in Town area of BKK. It caters to mostly older married Thai men with money who like to step out on their wives. If you are a cheap Charlie, this is not the place for you. However, the ladies are all white skinned, and clinically beautiful and sexy. You can choose a membership which includes sets of bottles or you can pay as you go. The drink sets normally start around 4000 Baht+++ They often have great promotions for non- members. Be sure to go with a group of friends to share the costs. As for the ladies, you pay a fee of 1000-2000 baht for the first hour. This depends on the category of the lady. She will drink with you for that hour, wipe your ass for you when you go to the toilet, feed you snacks, dance with you, let you grope her, kiss you, feel you up, jack you over your pants, but she won't openly go with you outside for sex. Every additional hour is 500 baht. If you want a girl to go with you, you must discreetly discuss it during your time together. If she agrees, it will be a minimum of 6000ST but probably more. I have paid 6 K and as high as now 20 K for ST. They are used to old Thai men with money so the sex will be hit and miss but you can know that you will be fucking a real stunner. Not all will be starfishes either.
Next is T-Ded-99. When you walk in to the entrance in the corner by 7/11, you will see a huge room with a long stage that goes from one end to the other. The first lot of girls sit at the far end in some booths, about 50 or so, while others sit with customers and dance on stage, some topless at times. All around the outside there are Karaoke VIP rooms. Then there is a small hallway leading to another area of Karaoke rooms, which is on the way to the bathrooms. It is in this area where there is a long bench against the walls that wraps around the corridor and goes along the back hallway all the way to the bathrooms. It is on this long bench where all the other girls sit waiting to be either chosen as guys walk by or be brought out in huge groups to show the guys sitting down in the booths or in the karaoke rooms. There are literally 150 girls in this back area alone, plus around 50 or so girls sitting in the booths and maybe another 20 or so already with customers. If you walk and and sit down, you would not know they were even there until you walked to the bathrooms. Most foreigners go there for the first time and walk in and out as they don't think there are any girls. They are sadly mistaken. After choosing your girl, we sat down and drank beer. Large bottles of Heineken, ate fries, mango, and chicken fried rice. One of the last few times I was there I chose a girl and she sat with me for 3 hours. Then after I took her to the ST hotel across the road. Now, the pricing. All the food, about 5-6 large Heinekens, and the cost of the girl to sit with me was in total, 1900 baht. There are no lady drinks in this place. Just a small sitting fee of about 200 Baht per hour, maybe a little less. The lady drinks and eats whatever you order. Then comes the cost of the girl to take out to the hotel. It's very easy to figure here. It's 2500 baht including the hotel. My girl's name was Kao. She is 22 years old with no baby and nice see cups. We showered together and then onto the bed. Lot's of steamy sex in all positions and a nice CIP finish. Total cost was 4400 baht. However, this place is so fun and cheap, I tipped a bunch of the staff plus the girl was given a healthy tip for her bedroom activities being pretty much the same as a GF. BBFSCIP. I often see the odd other western foreigner in there, but they always look completely lost and don't last long. The quite a few Chinese guys and the rest are all Thai. You will need to speak some Thai in this place to make things much easier, so I would suggest going with a Thai friend if you can't speak Thai. So, just to summarize, the cost was 4400 Baht not including the tips I gave to the staff and my girl. Therefore, it was closer to about 10 K all in. You don't need to be the same as me though. A comparable night in go go plus the ST with the lady would most likely be much higher. I compare this to a go go because that's what it really is.
About the Line App. Guys, Line is not a mythical and magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just their preferred method of contact. The people nearby search function is not available if you have your line account downloaded from another country where that feature is not available. Thailand is one of those places where it is not available. However, if you come from a country such as the USA where it is available, you can use it in Thailand but there will be no Thai girls there. If there are some, they probably are visiting from another country or for whatever reason, their Apple ID or google Play store account are not from Thailand. So, to be clear, this search function is not available in Thailand!
This is just my personal experience in Bangkok and it may not be the same as others. However, I have been very successful at achieving my mongering goals. Don't get me wrong though. I have made my share of mistakes too. The best way to prevent those is to RTFF. That's what it is here for.
EverythingThai
02-02-25, 19:35
Had another great night here last week. Every girl on stage is completely naked. Most are above 6/10. A lot of 7's and 8's and some 9's. The best way to navigate this go go is to grab 2 or 3 girls and have a few drinks. Then eliminate until you choose your girl. That way you can feel, them out and see who you most gel with. Them after about 15 minutes cut one loose. Then after another hour cut another one loose and chose the one you want to bar fine. They are always naked so while drinking there is always a lot of touching, groping, DFK and so on. Bar fine 1000 Baht. ST 3000 Baht, but they ask for 4000 Baht often. ST room at the ASOK end of Soi Cowboy. 500 Baht.
I always pay extra to get extra service and after I head in to Penny Black. You can drink till 4:30 AM upstairs and find FLs.
Newton York
02-02-25, 21:15
Brother Newton, I've been reading a few of your posts and I find them quite entertaining and interesting. I know where you're coming from on the quitting your job thing. But, As far as quitting your job is your job worth keeping? Is there some kind of benefit or light at the end of the tunnel keeping you there? If no. I get it. Thailand has been in my blood since I first touched down there 13 years ago but as a 33 year old who had barely anything saved for retirement quitting wasn't in the cards for me. Fast forward that 13 years and I've been working like a dog sometimes only getting 4 days off a month total working 10 to 11 hours a day or more and now I have a nice chunk of cash stashed away for retirement and a benefit of flying for free domestically and very inexpensively internationally only a short 5 month period away if and when I do decide to call it quits. After 18 years in my profession I am ready to walk away but do have the benefit of schedule flexibility and 5 weeks of paid vacation plus the ability to "buy" time off by "selling" my shifts to a coworker, which allows me to be able to take months off at a time if I choose to and have the extra cash to do so. As much as I want to leave and live in Thailand full time I can't bring myself to do it at least until I get that 5 months and flight benefits for life.
Are you thinking of quitting just to go to Thailand only to come back and find another job and continue to work? If the answer is yes, think long and hard before doing so. The reason I ask is that last year I spent 4 months straight over in Thailand broken up by a few days in Jakarta to reset my entry visa. About half way into the 4th month things weren't the same as they were in month 1 or 2. Thailand had become a little "ho hum" and bills were starting to accumulate at home so I left a week early and then got back to work building up cash to pay the bills and for my next trip which I'm taking in less than 5 days. This trip will be about 3 to 6 weeks in length. I will admit tho after landing in the states I regretting leaving early the first day I was back paying USA prices for food, beverage, gas, entertainment, etc. Etc.
Depending on your job / career. You might be able to leave and easily come back and find another job making a compareable salary. If that's the case go for it and enjoy your time in the LOS but if finding another job might prove difficult give it a bit of thought first.I'm afraid I'm not even thinking that far or in any logical manner. I'm super old, so I'm honestly not sure that I even have a timeline that will last years into the future. Right now, for me I'm just trapped in this haze of misery and sadness, not just from work itself, but from missing Bangkok so badly. It's as much wanting to get away from the miserable fucks at the office, as it is to experiencing Bangkok all over again. No plan of any kind, just a short 3 week trip in Bangkok to fuck my blues away, and when I'm back here in the United States of Sadness of America, I figure if I'm still alive somehow, I'll just muddle through. I've got enough saved up for maybe 2 years. On some level, I know it's not realistic for me to actually retire in Bangkok, but I still have a few connections left in a neighboring South East Asian country, that might actually be viable, and even cheaper. I built those connections through literal blood, sweat and tears in my youth when uncle Sam forced me to go there to fight on his behalf. Now that I'm super old, I'm too tired to even think of any actual retirement. I just want to say fuck it all, bask in the glory of Bangkok for 3 weeks, and then deal with the misery here when I come back. I'd give anything to be one of those people in the Jeju or DC crash. For whatever they were going thru in life, at least they no longer have any worries now, because the pain of life is finally over. I'm serious when I say this, but I do wish death on myself everyday. So there's the paradox, that I truly wish I dead, so why can't I just resign and go to Bangkok then? What's really stopping me? I just don't know anymore. Lucifer knows I had my mid-life crisis decades ago, so this must be an end of life crisis. One last final chance to be bold and brave. One last chance to say fuck it to the man, and to try to make it work out there in the world.
Newton York
02-02-25, 21:24
Hey it'll be my first time in Bangkok. I have mongered before but only in countries where it's legal or in practice legal. Also only in brothels. So this is a new experience for me. Yes I've read the forum but what are some tips for newbies like me?I'd say you're going to have the time of your life. There's so many options it'll make your head explode. Take it slow, drink it all in, and by Anubis, enjoy!
First up, don't bother with escort agencies. Next, download apps like Line. Pick up a few lines of Thai, always helps to break the ice. Never say where you're actually from, and never use your real name. Always say you're there for work long term. Never say you're there just on a short vacation. You want them to think that you could be a regular.
Enjoy Nana, Cowboy and Patpong for what it is, but the lady drinks will add up, best value for money are the massage and nuru type joints. I envy you my friend, have fun!
Captain Solo
02-03-25, 00:04
It's the spot on the North side of Soi 4 with the most girls hang out.
A bro identified it as 25 Soi 4.
First, I cannot tell difference between Thai and Vietnamese in terms of looks and since I don't speak language I wouldn't know what nationality they were.
Two years ago there was absolutely 0 Russian or white women hooking on the street in Soi 4. Nothing but Thai and occasional African. They were all huddled directly outside nana sitting on motorbikes etc. I walked occasionally down soi 4 but not too far past main beer bars. So where on soi 4 did you find this mix?
Philip Marlow
02-03-25, 05:35
Overview of Bangkok options....The professor is in. Thank you again ET. I'm truly learning a lot from your posts. And I'm quite sure it's not just me.
This was a lot of work. I really appreciate the time you put in educating us newbies.
I just want to say fuck it all, bask in the glory of Bangkok for 3 weeks, and then deal with the misery here when I come back. I'd give anything to be one of those people in the Jeju or DC crash. For whatever they were going thru in life, at least they no longer have any worries now, because the pain of life is finally over. I'm serious when I say this, but I do wish death on myself everyday.It definitely sounds like you are comparing your holiday self to your actual life. I had this when I got back from a trip in December 2022. I had had such a great time and I had spent the immediate three weeks with an absolute stunner 38 years my junior. She was amazing. Top of her uni class, fresh graduate, nice family, amazing body, stylish dresser and not financially demanding at all. We were still in contact and she was telling me more about what life could be like with her and I was making promises I couldn't keep. I ended up having to break all contact with her and just focus to my life at hand. I made some work changes and rearranged a few things here at home. The reality is I couldn't not move there and really it would be so impractical to give her 2-3 kids that she desperately deserves. I'm not looking to get in the family way again at my age.
All things can pass and if there are things events that can make your life better, then take action on those. What activities do you enjoy? Can you enjoy these in your home country while waiting for your next Bangkok trip? Your money will go a lot further if you get out of Bangkok into the Thai countryside.
Chin up an soldier on.
Francesco24
02-03-25, 10:19
It's so bad that the going rate for ST in most places seems to be 3 k. Even some street girls ask for that nowadays.
3000ST is the average.
Great post. Thanks for sharing this overview.
Do not overthink your stay or you will have a terrible time and use all pricing as a guide that you read about here. Pay more or less sometimes and it will all even out in the end.
Overview of Bangkok options.
So many debates and so many questions in my private messages and in the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4 P. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, and Tinder.
WE Chat is quite easy as everything is out in the open, but watch out for ladyboys. The ladies all post very clearly what their intentions are. It is the other sites that are a little more challenging. There is a people nearby feature that can be used to track down the girls near you. Within about 15 KM. We chat is completely free and all the rest of them offer free options and paid options to enhance your experience. For the sake of this post, I will use Thai Friendly as the example as it is the most popular and widely discussed on this board and is the only one that is worth paying for in my opinion in Bangkok if you are looking for P4 P. First, I will clear up all the misconceptions for everyone. Regular members can message once every 10 minutes but if the girl is too popular, free accounts cannot message her. The premium account comes with unlimited massaging to all members with no waiting time between sent messages and your messages are put at the top of the lady's inbox. You can also hide things like your online status and joined date. These are valuable tools. Well worth the 800 baht per month. For all you skeptics, any decent looking lady gets thousands of messages each day. If you don't believe me, ask the next girl you chat with. She will tell you she just can't reply to everyone so having your message go to the top of her inbox, is an excellent advantage over being a free member. The BKK section is about 50% normal girls and 50% P4 P, don't talk with me about Pattaya as this is not the Pattaya thread. However, it is not easy to unlock 100% of the P4 P ladies. Some only do it part time and some are selective. For the hottest girls, search 18-24 year old. From there, send a message saying "Do you want to make money? With this proven method, you will score. The university girls looking for a quick tuition fix are your targets. They will offer the best GFE with mostly no mention of a condom. You can get them for 3-4 K baht for the night, LT. This is strictly P4 P guys. I have other methods I use to find the good ladies for short or long time girlfriends. Finally, mongers get so obsessed with Line. Line is not any magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just heir preferred method of contact.
Next, freelancers and the bar scene. I frequent the Hillary bars, Levels, Flamingo and Mixx. Climax used to be the go to place, but it closed for some time. It is now open again just recently. However, I have not been back yet. As for Thermae, It mainly appeals to the Japanese crowd if that's your thing, please know It is hit and miss for most farangs. 3000ST is the average. Never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you will lose all control.
Next, massage shops. I choose Snow White for the hands down best PSE / GFE experience. Every time I get multiple pops with BBFS and sometimes CIP. The prices are approximately 1,900 baht for 1 hour, 2,300 baht for 90 minutes, and 2,500 baht for 2 hours. I never pay upfront. However, I always get BBFS there but CIP only 50% of the time with a tip of around 1000 baht I am not a fan of A+, but it is available with about 70% of the ladies. When I am looking for the kind of Thai girls who normally go with Asians, I go to Ratchada, Rama 9, Sukhumvit Soi 31,33. For other areas, there is Soi 26, Soi 24, and Soi 24/1. The famous Tulip is opposite Soi 55 Thonglor on Sukhumvit. This place has seen better days through. This meaning the lineup can be god awful to average, but never like ti used to be. For anyone looking for Dao, she is now at Snow White. Honorable mention goes to Mango on Soi 24. Decent lineup every day that is consistent and by paying a little bit more, you can get BBFS with most of the girls.
Go go bars and bars with bar fines. In Soi Cowboy, Crazy House. The bar fine for me has always been 800-1000 Baht and I love this place for the nude dancing. However, there is a constant pressure to buy lady drinks, which may not appeal to some of the guys. Beware of this lady drink hustle, as you may buy a few while the lady has another customer lined up for a bar fine. I always choose my girl and then negotiate the bar fine first. Then I pay the bar fine and sit and relax with the girl and drink. I often go ST for 3000 to the ST room at the end of the soi or LT to my condo for 4-5 K baht depending on the girls rates. Keep in mind, I mostly never discuss rates with the girls and give them these prices as they are the going rates and fair plus a tip if they take care of me well. Additionally, I almost always get what I want such as BBFS. I think a lot of that has to do with my easy going attitude. While drinking before we go, she can then have as many lady drinks as she wants. Keep note, with the many complaints of bill padding, the bar now asks you to sign every bill as you order and drink. 80% of the time, I have a good experience. In my humble opinion, the rest of Soi Cowboy is a waste of time. Maybe Baccara is worth a visit still, but that's it. The rest of the bars are full of drink queens and inconsistent line ups.
My go to places in Nana are Butterflies and Billboard. I mostly follow the same rules here. Billboard being the one where I refuse to buy lady drinks for any girl until after I have paid my bar fine. As for the bars, I like to go to many of the small bars on Soi 4, Morning Night and the many Hillary bars. Bar fines are about 700 baht and you can sometimes find a diamond in the ruff at these places. 80% of the time, I drank with the girls, then paid their bar fine, and took them for ST or LT and got a real GFE with BBFS and CIP. I always pay 3000ST and around 5000 LT plus a tip. Again, never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. I used to frequent Patpong, but I have not been back since before covid.
Some honorable mentions: The Soi 7 beer bars. They can be dead awful to amazing depending on the day. There is also Soi 22 where you will find a ton of massage shops and small bars at the top of the Soi and tucked into almost all of the side soils. There is also a little small bar and massage area that I have been to on Soi 20/1 that is quite fun. Then there is Soi 8 that houses a few BJ bars and massage shops, a small road off Asok that houses Som's Heaven with a new name I have forgotten, and the Soi 23 massage shops. I would not suggest picking up off the street, but if that's your thing, across from Nana Plaza in the hotel car park by the ATMs there are street hookers and also ones outside of Thermae.
Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3500ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this in mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. The Africans are sticking to Tinder these days, or trolling the streets, but I would advise against hiring any of them.
Moving to escort agencies. I never use them, end of story. I do not think it is necessary. Why,? Because you can call delivery over by using Thai Friendly or Tinder. I strongly suggest the upgrade to premium as I said above to eliminate the 10 minute waiting time. I know about the search work around to message the most popular girls, but who wants to mess with this to save the 800 Baht. Be careful who you message. Feel them out first, as there are a lot of normal girls on TF in Bangkok. Unlike Pattaya where 90% on TF are looking for customers. Do not ask "What are you looking for" Introduce yourself. Tell them whether you are on holiday or working here. Ask them what their job is. This will get you the info you want to know. However, you will know straight away with about 15%. It will be clear what they are looking for on their profile. However, don't be fooled. Some working girls will write they are looking for relationships, but they are still ready and willing to give it up for the baht. This is expanded more from the section I wrote above with another tip on finding out if they are willing to play if you are not comfortable with the "Do you want to make money" question.
Now, the local scene. For this, I use X, the Pimp, and T-Ded-99. The Pimp is located in Town and Town and T-Ded 99 is located in the Saphan Kwai bar area on Suthisan Rd. This takes some Thai language skills and some patience.
Let's start Thai Sideline girls. Now you can still find them on X. This will be hit and miss as most ladies will ignore farngs. Be polite but it is a crap shoot. Most encounters will happen in ST rooms that the girl will rent for the entire day to entertain clients or you will need to meet the girl at a local hotel of her choosing. This will be a completely different experience as the ladies will be dick scared and shy because of not speaking English. Service level will be a crap shoot, as well, but generally be cheaper than what we as expats normally pay. On average 800 Baht to 1500 Baht ST. Often, you will be trying to book through an admin who manages multiple ladies through several mobile phone and Line OA business accounts. What I like is they will send you a bunch of photos and a more accurate description of what's on offer with photos that don't have the face hidden and some are on the website. If you can speak Thai like me, you will do really well and get BBFS. If not, if you are on holiday, you will waste too much time. For expats, time is not really an issue.
The Pimp is a gentlemen's club in the Town in Town area of BKK. It caters to mostly older married Thai men with money who like to step out on their wives. If you are a cheap Charlie, this is not the place for you. However, the ladies are all white skinned, and clinically beautiful and sexy. You can choose a membership which includes sets of bottles or you can pay as you go. The drink sets normally start around 4000 Baht+++ They often have great promotions for non- members. Be sure to go with a group of friends to share the costs. As for the ladies, you pay a fee of 1000-2000 baht for the first hour. This depends on the category of the lady. She will drink with you for that hour, wipe your ass for you when you go to the toilet, feed you snacks, dance with you, let you grope her, kiss you, feel you up, jack you over your pants, but she won't openly go with you outside for sex. Every additional hour is 500 baht. If you want a girl to go with you, you must discreetly discuss it during your time together. If she agrees, it will be a minimum of 6000ST but probably more. I have paid 6 K and as high as now 20 K for ST. They are used to old Thai men with money so the sex will be hit and miss but you can know that you will be fucking a real stunner. Not all will be starfishes either.
Next is T-Ded-99. When you walk in to the entrance in the corner by 7/11, you will see a huge room with a long stage that goes from one end to the other. The first lot of girls sit at the far end in some booths, about 50 or so, while others sit with customers and dance on stage, some topless at times. All around the outside there are Karaoke VIP rooms. Then there is a small hallway leading to another area of Karaoke rooms, which is on the way to the bathrooms. It is in this area where there is a long bench against the walls that wraps around the corridor and goes along the back hallway all the way to the bathrooms. It is on this long bench where all the other girls sit waiting to be either chosen as guys walk by or be brought out in huge groups to show the guys sitting down in the booths or in the karaoke rooms. There are literally 150 girls in this back area alone, plus around 50 or so girls sitting in the booths and maybe another 20 or so already with customers. If you walk and and sit down, you would not know they were even there until you walked to the bathrooms. Most foreigners go there for the first time and walk in and out as they don't think there are any girls. They are sadly mistaken. After choosing your girl, we sat down and drank beer. Large bottles of Heineken, ate fries, mango, and chicken fried rice. One of the last few times I was there I chose a girl and she sat with me for 3 hours. Then after I took her to the ST hotel across the road. Now, the pricing. All the food, about 5-6 large Heinekens, and the cost of the girl to sit with me was in total, 1900 baht. There are no lady drinks in this place. Just a small sitting fee of about 200 Baht per hour, maybe a little less. The lady drinks and eats whatever you order. Then comes the cost of the girl to take out to the hotel. It's very easy to figure here. It's 2500 baht including the hotel. My girl's name was Kao. She is 22 years old with no baby and nice see cups. We showered together and then onto the bed. Lot's of steamy sex in all positions and a nice CIP finish. Total cost was 4400 baht. However, this place is so fun and cheap, I tipped a bunch of the staff plus the girl was given a healthy tip for her bedroom activities being pretty much the same as a GF. BBFSCIP. I often see the odd other western foreigner in there, but they always look completely lost and don't last long. The quite a few Chinese guys and the rest are all Thai. You will need to speak some Thai in this place to make things much easier, so I would suggest going with a Thai friend if you can't speak Thai. So, just to summarize, the cost was 4400 Baht not including the tips I gave to the staff and my girl. Therefore, it was closer to about 10 K all in. You don't need to be the same as me though. A comparable night in go go plus the ST with the lady would most likely be much higher. I compare this to a go go because that's what it really is.
About the Line App. Guys, Line is not a mythical and magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just their preferred method of contact. The people nearby search function is not available if you have your line account downloaded from another country where that feature is not available. Thailand is one of those places where it is not available. However, if you come from a country such as the USA where it is available, you can use it in Thailand but there will be no Thai girls there. If there are some, they probably are visiting from another country or for whatever reason, their Apple ID or google Play store account are not from Thailand. So, to be clear, this search function is not available in Thailand!
This is just my personal experience in Bangkok and it may not be the same as others. However, I have been very successful at achieving my mongering goals. Don't get me wrong though. I have made my share of mistakes too. The best way to prevent those is to RTFF. That's what it is here for.
Gents,
Unusual request. Is it possible to hire 2 attractive lasses to join me on the train to the airport. Or if anyone can PM me some beauties on their list, would greatly appreciate it. Just ride on the train with me there and back to pick up a friend. He will be thrilled.
I must admire the time you have taken for the post. Your post has made me to think about a visit.
Agin thanks very much.
Do not overthink your stay or you will have a terrible time and use all pricing as a guide that you read about here. Pay more or less sometimes and it will all even out in the end.
I must admire the time u have taken for the post. Ur post has made me to think about a visit.
Agin thanks very much.
Overview of Bangkok options.
So many debates and so many questions in my private messages and in the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4 P. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, and Tinder.
WE Chat is quite easy as everything is out in the open, but watch out for ladyboys. The ladies all post very clearly what their intentions are. It is the other sites that are a little more challenging. There is a people nearby feature that can be used to track down the girls near you. Within about 15 KM. We chat is completely free and all the rest of them offer free options and paid options to enhance your experience. For the sake of this post, I will use Thai Friendly as the example as it is the most popular and widely discussed on this board and is the only one that is worth paying for in my opinion in Bangkok if you are looking for P4 P. First, I will clear up all the misconceptions for everyone. Regular members can message once every 10 minutes but if the girl is too popular, free accounts cannot message her. The premium account comes with unlimited massaging to all members with no waiting time between sent messages and your messages are put at the top of the lady's inbox. You can also hide things like your online status and joined date. These are valuable tools. Well worth the 800 baht per month. For all you skeptics, any decent looking lady gets thousands of messages each day. If you don't believe me, ask the next girl you chat with. She will tell you she just can't reply to everyone so having your message go to the top of her inbox, is an excellent advantage over being a free member. The BKK section is about 50% normal girls and 50% P4 P, don't talk with me about Pattaya as this is not the Pattaya thread. However, it is not easy to unlock 100% of the P4 P ladies. Some only do it part time and some are selective. For the hottest girls, search 18-24 year old. From there, send a message saying "Do you want to make money? With this proven method, you will score. The university girls looking for a quick tuition fix are your targets. They will offer the best GFE with mostly no mention of a condom. You can get them for 3-4 K baht for the night, LT. This is strictly P4 P guys. I have other methods I use to find the good ladies for short or long time girlfriends. Finally, mongers get so obsessed with Line. Line is not any magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just heir preferred method of contact.
Next, freelancers and the bar scene. I frequent the Hillary bars, Levels, Flamingo and Mixx. Climax used to be the go to place, but it closed for some time. It is now open again just recently. However, I have not been back yet. As for Thermae, It mainly appeals to the Japanese crowd if that's your thing, please know It is hit and miss for most farangs. 3000ST is the average. Never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you will lose all control.
Next, massage shops. I choose Snow White for the hands down best PSE / GFE experience. Every time I get multiple pops with BBFS and sometimes CIP. The prices are approximately 1,900 baht for 1 hour, 2,300 baht for 90 minutes, and 2,500 baht for 2 hours. I never pay upfront. However, I always get BBFS there but CIP only 50% of the time with a tip of around 1000 baht I am not a fan of A+, but it is available with about 70% of the ladies. When I am looking for the kind of Thai girls who normally go with Asians, I go to Ratchada, Rama 9, Sukhumvit Soi 31,33. For other areas, there is Soi 26, Soi 24, and Soi 24/1. The famous Tulip is opposite Soi 55 Thonglor on Sukhumvit. This place has seen better days through. This meaning the lineup can be god awful to average, but never like ti used to be. For anyone looking for Dao, she is now at Snow White. Honorable mention goes to Mango on Soi 24. Decent lineup every day that is consistent and by paying a little bit more, you can get BBFS with most of the girls.
Go go bars and bars with bar fines. In Soi Cowboy, Crazy House. The bar fine for me has always been 800-1000 Baht and I love this place for the nude dancing. However, there is a constant pressure to buy lady drinks, which may not appeal to some of the guys. Beware of this lady drink hustle, as you may buy a few while the lady has another customer lined up for a bar fine. I always choose my girl and then negotiate the bar fine first. Then I pay the bar fine and sit and relax with the girl and drink. I often go ST for 3000 to the ST room at the end of the soi or LT to my condo for 4-5 K baht depending on the girls rates. Keep in mind, I mostly never discuss rates with the girls and give them these prices as they are the going rates and fair plus a tip if they take care of me well. Additionally, I almost always get what I want such as BBFS. I think a lot of that has to do with my easy going attitude. While drinking before we go, she can then have as many lady drinks as she wants. Keep note, with the many complaints of bill padding, the bar now asks you to sign every bill as you order and drink. 80% of the time, I have a good experience. In my humble opinion, the rest of Soi Cowboy is a waste of time. Maybe Baccara is worth a visit still, but that's it. The rest of the bars are full of drink queens and inconsistent line ups.
My go to places in Nana are Butterflies and Billboard. I mostly follow the same rules here. Billboard being the one where I refuse to buy lady drinks for any girl until after I have paid my bar fine. As for the bars, I like to go to many of the small bars on Soi 4, Morning Night and the many Hillary bars. Bar fines are about 700 baht and you can sometimes find a diamond in the ruff at these places. 80% of the time, I drank with the girls, then paid their bar fine, and took them for ST or LT and got a real GFE with BBFS and CIP. I always pay 3000ST and around 5000 LT plus a tip. Again, never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. I used to frequent Patpong, but I have not been back since before covid.
Some honorable mentions: The Soi 7 beer bars. They can be dead awful to amazing depending on the day. There is also Soi 22 where you will find a ton of massage shops and small bars at the top of the Soi and tucked into almost all of the side soils. There is also a little small bar and massage area that I have been to on Soi 20/1 that is quite fun. Then there is Soi 8 that houses a few BJ bars and massage shops, a small road off Asok that houses Som's Heaven with a new name I have forgotten, and the Soi 23 massage shops. I would not suggest picking up off the street, but if that's your thing, across from Nana Plaza in the hotel car park by the ATMs there are street hookers and also ones outside of Thermae.
Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3500ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this in mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. The Africans are sticking to Tinder these days, or trolling the streets, but I would advise against hiring any of them.
Moving to escort agencies. I never use them, end of story. I do not think it is necessary. Why,? Because you can call delivery over by using Thai Friendly or Tinder. I strongly suggest the upgrade to premium as I said above to eliminate the 10 minute waiting time. I know about the search work around to message the most popular girls, but who wants to mess with this to save the 800 Baht. Be careful who you message. Feel them out first, as there are a lot of normal girls on TF in Bangkok. Unlike Pattaya where 90% on TF are looking for customers. Do not ask "What are you looking for" Introduce yourself. Tell them whether you are on holiday or working here. Ask them what their job is. This will get you the info you want to know. However, you will know straight away with about 15%. It will be clear what they are looking for on their profile. However, don't be fooled. Some working girls will write they are looking for relationships, but they are still ready and willing to give it up for the baht. This is expanded more from the section I wrote above with another tip on finding out if they are willing to play if you are not comfortable with the "Do you want to make money" question.
Now, the local scene. For this, I use X, the Pimp, and T-Ded-99. The Pimp is located in Town and Town and T-Ded 99 is located in the Saphan Kwai bar area on Suthisan Rd. This takes some Thai language skills and some patience.
Let's start Thai Sideline girls. Now you can still find them on X. This will be hit and miss as most ladies will ignore farngs. Be polite but it is a crap shoot. Most encounters will happen in ST rooms that the girl will rent for the entire day to entertain clients or you will need to meet the girl at a local hotel of her choosing. This will be a completely different experience as the ladies will be dick scared and shy because of not speaking English. Service level will be a crap shoot, as well, but generally be cheaper than what we as expats normally pay. On average 800 Baht to 1500 Baht ST. Often, you will be trying to book through an admin who manages multiple ladies through several mobile phone and Line OA business accounts. What I like is they will send you a bunch of photos and a more accurate description of what's on offer with photos that don't have the face hidden and some are on the website. If you can speak Thai like me, you will do really well and get BBFS. If not, if you are on holiday, you will waste too much time. For expats, time is not really an issue.
The Pimp is a gentlemen's club in the Town in Town area of BKK. It caters to mostly older married Thai men with money who like to step out on their wives. If you are a cheap Charlie, this is not the place for you. However, the ladies are all white skinned, and clinically beautiful and sexy. You can choose a membership which includes sets of bottles or you can pay as you go. The drink sets normally start around 4000 Baht+++ They often have great promotions for non- members. Be sure to go with a group of friends to share the costs. As for the ladies, you pay a fee of 1000-2000 baht for the first hour. This depends on the category of the lady. She will drink with you for that hour, wipe your ass for you when you go to the toilet, feed you snacks, dance with you, let you grope her, kiss you, feel you up, jack you over your pants, but she won't openly go with you outside for sex. Every additional hour is 500 baht. If you want a girl to go with you, you must discreetly discuss it during your time together. If she agrees, it will be a minimum of 6000ST but probably more. I have paid 6 K and as high as now 20 K for ST. They are used to old Thai men with money so the sex will be hit and miss but you can know that you will be fucking a real stunner. Not all will be starfishes either.
Next is T-Ded-99. When you walk in to the entrance in the corner by 7/11, you will see a huge room with a long stage that goes from one end to the other. The first lot of girls sit at the far end in some booths, about 50 or so, while others sit with customers and dance on stage, some topless at times. All around the outside there are Karaoke VIP rooms. Then there is a small hallway leading to another area of Karaoke rooms, which is on the way to the bathrooms. It is in this area where there is a long bench against the walls that wraps around the corridor and goes along the back hallway all the way to the bathrooms. It is on this long bench where all the other girls sit waiting to be either chosen as guys walk by or be brought out in huge groups to show the guys sitting down in the booths or in the karaoke rooms. There are literally 150 girls in this back area alone, plus around 50 or so girls sitting in the booths and maybe another 20 or so already with customers. If you walk and and sit down, you would not know they were even there until you walked to the bathrooms. Most foreigners go there for the first time and walk in and out as they don't think there are any girls. They are sadly mistaken. After choosing your girl, we sat down and drank beer. Large bottles of Heineken, ate fries, mango, and chicken fried rice. One of the last few times I was there I chose a girl and she sat with me for 3 hours. Then after I took her to the ST hotel across the road. Now, the pricing. All the food, about 5-6 large Heinekens, and the cost of the girl to sit with me was in total, 1900 baht. There are no lady drinks in this place. Just a small sitting fee of about 200 Baht per hour, maybe a little less. The lady drinks and eats whatever you order. Then comes the cost of the girl to take out to the hotel. It's very easy to figure here. It's 2500 baht including the hotel. My girl's name was Kao. She is 22 years old with no baby and nice see cups. We showered together and then onto the bed. Lot's of steamy sex in all positions and a nice CIP finish. Total cost was 4400 baht. However, this place is so fun and cheap, I tipped a bunch of the staff plus the girl was given a healthy tip for her bedroom activities being pretty much the same as a GF. BBFSCIP. I often see the odd other western foreigner in there, but they always look completely lost and don't last long. The quite a few Chinese guys and the rest are all Thai. You will need to speak some Thai in this place to make things much easier, so I would suggest going with a Thai friend if you can't speak Thai. So, just to summarize, the cost was 4400 Baht not including the tips I gave to the staff and my girl. Therefore, it was closer to about 10 K all in. You don't need to be the same as me though. A comparable night in go go plus the ST with the lady would most likely be much higher. I compare this to a go go because that's what it really is.
About the Line App. Guys, Line is not a mythical and magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just their preferred method of contact. The people nearby search function is not available if you have your line account downloaded from another country where that feature is not available. Thailand is one of those places where it is not available. However, if you come from a country such as the USA where it is available, you can use it in Thailand but there will be no Thai girls there. If there are some, they probably are visiting from another country or for whatever reason, their Apple ID or google Play store account are not from Thailand. So, to be clear, this search function is not available in Thailand!
This is just my personal experience in Bangkok and it may not be the same as others. However, I have been very successful at achieving my mongering goals. Don't get me wrong though. I have made my share of mistakes too. The best way to prevent those is to RTFF. That's what it is here for.
Do not overthink your stay or you will have a terrible time and use all pricing as a guide that you read about here. Pay more or less sometimes and it will all even out in the end.
Overview of Bangkok options.
So many debates and so many questions in my private messages and in the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4 P. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, and Tinder.
WE Chat is \Been coming to Bangkok and Manila for 20+ years on holiday, but finally at age 63 I sold everything and came to Bangkok with my gorgeous 24 year old slim Filipina GF, but my inner monger just couldn't be silenced so I got my Thai LTR visa and sent my hot Filipina back home. I live across from Soi Cowboy and love to hang out at Thermae but wasn't fully clued into all the possibilities until I saw this post which is absolute GOLD. Start a Patreon and I'll pay LOL. Thanks so much for all the info brother, you're a true saint among mongers if there ever was one. I'll fully explore these recommendations and report back ASAP on my experiences. The only thing I can add is that as you RTFF you'll find recommendations to check out the site Fiwfans, but alas it is no more as they got totally busted by the police and shut down. Also, it sure is helping to learn some Thai as already recommended. I highly recommend watching free Thai language vids but don't forget that Thai is tonal so find a cute Thai friend to correct your pronuciation. It will be loads of fun and help fill in the time between boom-booms. Cheers all!
Gents,
Unusual request. Is it possible to hire 2 attractive lasses to join me on the train to the airport. Or if anyone can PM me some beauties on their list, would greatly appreciate it. Just ride on the train with me there and back to pick up a friend. He will be thrilled.I assume there's payment involved and how much (ballpark).
Because I have a friend who's an intern at the airport as ground staff, she may be interested in earning some extra money. She is definitely cute I would say.
ElDoradoNola83
02-04-25, 04:55
Do not overthink your stay or you will have a terrible time and use all pricing as a guide that you read about here. Pay more or less sometimes and it will all even out in the end.
Overview of Bangkok options.
So many debates and so many questions in my private messages and in the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4 P. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, and Tinder.
WE Chat is quite easy as everything is out in the open, but watch out for ladyboys. The ladies all post very clearly what their intentions are. It is the other sites that are a little more challenging. There is a people nearby feature that can be used to track down the girls near you. Within about 15 KM. We chat is completely free and all the rest of them offer free options and paid options to enhance your experience. For the sake of this post, I will use Thai Friendly as the example as it is the most popular and widely discussed on this board and is the only one that is worth paying for in my opinion in Bangkok if you are looking for P4 P. First, I will clear up all the misconceptions for everyone. Regular members can message once every 10 minutes but if the girl is too popular, free accounts cannot message her. The premium account comes with unlimited massaging to all members with no waiting time between sent messages and your messages are put at the top of the lady's inbox. You can also hide things like your online status and joined date. These are valuable tools. Well worth the 800 baht per month. For all you skeptics, any decent looking lady gets thousands of messages each day. If you don't believe me, ask the next girl you chat with. She will tell you she just can't reply to everyone so having your message go to the top of her inbox, is an excellent advantage over being a free member. The BKK section is about 50% normal girls and 50% P4 P, don't talk with me about Pattaya as this is not the Pattaya thread. However, it is not easy to unlock 100% of the P4 P ladies. Some only do it part time and some are selective. For the hottest girls, search 18-24 year old. From there, send a message saying "Do you want to make money? With this proven method, you will score. The university girls looking for a quick tuition fix are your targets. They will offer the best GFE with mostly no mention of a condom. You can get them for 3-4 K baht for the night, LT. This is strictly P4 P guys. I have other methods I use to find the good ladies for short or long time girlfriends. Finally, mongers get so obsessed with Line. Line is not any magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just heir preferred method of contact.
Next, freelancers and the bar scene. I frequent the Hillary bars, Levels, Flamingo and Mixx. Climax used to be the go to place, but it closed for some time. It is now open again just recently. However, I have not been back yet. As for Thermae, It mainly appeals to the Japanese crowd if that's your thing, please know It is hit and miss for most farangs. 3000ST is the average. Never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you will lose all control.
Next, massage shops. I choose Snow White for the hands down best PSE / GFE experience. Every time I get multiple pops with BBFS and sometimes CIP. The prices are approximately 1,900 baht for 1 hour, 2,300 baht for 90 minutes, and 2,500 baht for 2 hours. I never pay upfront. However, I always get BBFS there but CIP only 50% of the time with a tip of around 1000 baht I am not a fan of A+, but it is available with about 70% of the ladies. When I am looking for the kind of Thai girls who normally go with Asians, I go to Ratchada, Rama 9, Sukhumvit Soi 31,33. For other areas, there is Soi 26, Soi 24, and Soi 24/1. The famous Tulip is opposite Soi 55 Thonglor on Sukhumvit. This place has seen better days through. This meaning the lineup can be god awful to average, but never like ti used to be. For anyone looking for Dao, she is now at Snow White. Honorable mention goes to Mango on Soi 24. Decent lineup every day that is consistent and by paying a little bit more, you can get BBFS with most of the girls.
Go go bars and bars with bar fines. In Soi Cowboy, Crazy House. The bar fine for me has always been 800-1000 Baht and I love this place for the nude dancing. However, there is a constant pressure to buy lady drinks, which may not appeal to some of the guys. Beware of this lady drink hustle, as you may buy a few while the lady has another customer lined up for a bar fine. I always choose my girl and then negotiate the bar fine first. Then I pay the bar fine and sit and relax with the girl and drink. I often go ST for 3000 to the ST room at the end of the soi or LT to my condo for 4-5 K baht depending on the girls rates. Keep in mind, I mostly never discuss rates with the girls and give them these prices as they are the going rates and fair plus a tip if they take care of me well. Additionally, I almost always get what I want such as BBFS. I think a lot of that has to do with my easy going attitude. While drinking before we go, she can then have as many lady drinks as she wants. Keep note, with the many complaints of bill padding, the bar now asks you to sign every bill as you order and drink. 80% of the time, I have a good experience. In my humble opinion, the rest of Soi Cowboy is a waste of time. Maybe Baccara is worth a visit still, but that's it. The rest of the bars are full of drink queens and inconsistent line ups.
My go to places in Nana are Butterflies and Billboard. I mostly follow the same rules here. Billboard being the one where I refuse to buy lady drinks for any girl until after I have paid my bar fine. As for the bars, I like to go to many of the small bars on Soi 4, Morning Night and the many Hillary bars. Bar fines are about 700 baht and you can sometimes find a diamond in the ruff at these places. 80% of the time, I drank with the girls, then paid their bar fine, and took them for ST or LT and got a real GFE with BBFS and CIP. I always pay 3000ST and around 5000 LT plus a tip. Again, never pay first under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, lets you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. I used to frequent Patpong, but I have not been back since before covid.
Some honorable mentions: The Soi 7 beer bars. They can be dead awful to amazing depending on the day. There is also Soi 22 where you will find a ton of massage shops and small bars at the top of the Soi and tucked into almost all of the side soils. There is also a little small bar and massage area that I have been to on Soi 20/1 that is quite fun. Then there is Soi 8 that houses a few BJ bars and massage shops, a small road off Asok that houses Som's Heaven with a new name I have forgotten, and the Soi 23 massage shops. I would not suggest picking up off the street, but if that's your thing, across from Nana Plaza in the hotel car park by the ATMs there are street hookers and also ones outside of Thermae.
Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3500ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this in mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control. The Africans are sticking to Tinder these days, or trolling the streets, but I would advise against hiring any of them.
Moving to escort agencies. I never use them, end of story. I do not think it is necessary. Why,? Because you can call delivery over by using Thai Friendly or Tinder. I strongly suggest the upgrade to premium as I said above to eliminate the 10 minute waiting time. I know about the search work around to message the most popular girls, but who wants to mess with this to save the 800 Baht. Be careful who you message. Feel them out first, as there are a lot of normal girls on TF in Bangkok. Unlike Pattaya where 90% on TF are looking for customers. Do not ask "What are you looking for" Introduce yourself. Tell them whether you are on holiday or working here. Ask them what their job is. This will get you the info you want to know. However, you will know straight away with about 15%. It will be clear what they are looking for on their profile. However, don't be fooled. Some working girls will write they are looking for relationships, but they are still ready and willing to give it up for the baht. This is expanded more from the section I wrote above with another tip on finding out if they are willing to play if you are not comfortable with the "Do you want to make money" question.
Now, the local scene. For this, I use X, the Pimp, and T-Ded-99. The Pimp is located in Town and Town and T-Ded 99 is located in the Saphan Kwai bar area on Suthisan Rd. This takes some Thai language skills and some patience.
Let's start Thai Sideline girls. Now you can still find them on X. This will be hit and miss as most ladies will ignore farngs. Be polite but it is a crap shoot. Most encounters will happen in ST rooms that the girl will rent for the entire day to entertain clients or you will need to meet the girl at a local hotel of her choosing. This will be a completely different experience as the ladies will be dick scared and shy because of not speaking English. Service level will be a crap shoot, as well, but generally be cheaper than what we as expats normally pay. On average 800 Baht to 1500 Baht ST. Often, you will be trying to book through an admin who manages multiple ladies through several mobile phone and Line OA business accounts. What I like is they will send you a bunch of photos and a more accurate description of what's on offer with photos that don't have the face hidden and some are on the website. If you can speak Thai like me, you will do really well and get BBFS. If not, if you are on holiday, you will waste too much time. For expats, time is not really an issue.
The Pimp is a gentlemen's club in the Town in Town area of BKK. It caters to mostly older married Thai men with money who like to step out on their wives. If you are a cheap Charlie, this is not the place for you. However, the ladies are all white skinned, and clinically beautiful and sexy. You can choose a membership which includes sets of bottles or you can pay as you go. The drink sets normally start around 4000 Baht+++ They often have great promotions for non- members. Be sure to go with a group of friends to share the costs. As for the ladies, you pay a fee of 1000-2000 baht for the first hour. This depends on the category of the lady. She will drink with you for that hour, wipe your ass for you when you go to the toilet, feed you snacks, dance with you, let you grope her, kiss you, feel you up, jack you over your pants, but she won't openly go with you outside for sex. Every additional hour is 500 baht. If you want a girl to go with you, you must discreetly discuss it during your time together. If she agrees, it will be a minimum of 6000ST but probably more. I have paid 6 K and as high as now 20 K for ST. They are used to old Thai men with money so the sex will be hit and miss but you can know that you will be fucking a real stunner. Not all will be starfishes either.
Next is T-Ded-99. When you walk in to the entrance in the corner by 7/11, you will see a huge room with a long stage that goes from one end to the other. The first lot of girls sit at the far end in some booths, about 50 or so, while others sit with customers and dance on stage, some topless at times. All around the outside there are Karaoke VIP rooms. Then there is a small hallway leading to another area of Karaoke rooms, which is on the way to the bathrooms. It is in this area where there is a long bench against the walls that wraps around the corridor and goes along the back hallway all the way to the bathrooms. It is on this long bench where all the other girls sit waiting to be either chosen as guys walk by or be brought out in huge groups to show the guys sitting down in the booths or in the karaoke rooms. There are literally 150 girls in this back area alone, plus around 50 or so girls sitting in the booths and maybe another 20 or so already with customers. If you walk and and sit down, you would not know they were even there until you walked to the bathrooms. Most foreigners go there for the first time and walk in and out as they don't think there are any girls. They are sadly mistaken. After choosing your girl, we sat down and drank beer. Large bottles of Heineken, ate fries, mango, and chicken fried rice. One of the last few times I was there I chose a girl and she sat with me for 3 hours. Then after I took her to the ST hotel across the road. Now, the pricing. All the food, about 5-6 large Heinekens, and the cost of the girl to sit with me was in total, 1900 baht. There are no lady drinks in this place. Just a small sitting fee of about 200 Baht per hour, maybe a little less. The lady drinks and eats whatever you order. Then comes the cost of the girl to take out to the hotel. It's very easy to figure here. It's 2500 baht including the hotel. My girl's name was Kao. She is 22 years old with no baby and nice see cups. We showered together and then onto the bed. Lot's of steamy sex in all positions and a nice CIP finish. Total cost was 4400 baht. However, this place is so fun and cheap, I tipped a bunch of the staff plus the girl was given a healthy tip for her bedroom activities being pretty much the same as a GF. BBFSCIP. I often see the odd other western foreigner in there, but they always look completely lost and don't last long. The quite a few Chinese guys and the rest are all Thai. You will need to speak some Thai in this place to make things much easier, so I would suggest going with a Thai friend if you can't speak Thai. So, just to summarize, the cost was 4400 Baht not including the tips I gave to the staff and my girl. Therefore, it was closer to about 10 K all in. You don't need to be the same as me though. A comparable night in go go plus the ST with the lady would most likely be much higher. I compare this to a go go because that's what it really is.
About the Line App. Guys, Line is not a mythical and magical way into a Thai girls pants. It is just their preferred method of contact. The people nearby search function is not available if you have your line account downloaded from another country where that feature is not available. Thailand is one of those places where it is not available. However, if you come from a country such as the USA where it is available, you can use it in Thailand but there will be no Thai girls there. If there are some, they probably are visiting from another country or for whatever reason, their Apple ID or google Play store account are not from Thailand. So, to be clear, this search function is not available in Thailand!
This is just my personal experience in Bangkok and it may not be the same as others. However, I have been very successful at achieving my mongering goals. Don't get me wrong though. I have made my share of mistakes too. The best way to prevent those is to RTFF. That's what it is here for.Thank you!
ElMexicant
02-04-25, 10:52
Not sure why not even a single report. Girls smoking. Gems galore. They adore the Brown because we never make them frown. Wouldn't say it's the cheapest place. But definitely so much fun. As the prophet Muhammad once said, "Got to love DDs!" LOL.
Pimpampoumpipo
02-04-25, 13:11
For quite some time now, I've enjoyed spending my early evenings in go-go bars. Some of the girls could easily be top models. In this regard, it's clear that Pattaya far surpasses all other places. Last month, I went to Patpong and was extremely disappointed because it didn't match the memories I had of it at all. I found it to be mostly focused on male homosexuality, which personally isn't my cup of tea. Additionally, the place has aged and seems to struggle with reinventing itself. Nothing comes close to Walking Street (WS) in Pattaya, with its XS, Pin Up, Palace, Fahrenheit, and even Chick or Shark, not to mention Kink, which I rank at the very top of my preferences.
Nothing? Well, except that recently I've started exploring Nana Plaza, and I must admit it has some appealing features: Geisha, with its well-built, soapy girls who playfully provoke customers to stick bills on their foam-covered bodies. I also enjoy watching them line up to shower off the foam. And I like observing the customers around me. But my current favorite is Billboard. The carousel concept is simply brilliant. By the time it completes a full rotation, and with my goldfish memory, I've already forgotten about three-quarters of the girls who were in front of me. It rotates, so the perspective constantly changes, allowing you to see both the front and back, which is far more interesting than always seeing the same angle in traditional go-go bars. I love watching them check themselves in the mirror to make sure everything's in place, fixing their hair or adjusting their outfits.
At Billboard, the girls are truly stunning, and I find them to have a certain class, even the tattooed ones. But what really draws me in is interacting with them. There's a mix of personalities: the shy ones who don't dare look at you, and when you smile at them, they're unsure how to take itwhether you're mocking them or not. Then there are those who deliberately ignore you because they look down on you or simply don't find you appealing.
Often, they respond to your smile (and they have smiles to die for), and sometimes a game begins where you exchange heart gestures with your hands, which usually ends when they signal for you to buy them a lady drink, and you gently reply that it's too early. Sometimes necks crane because the carousel keeps turning, and you want to share one last kiss or make sure you understood the last message.
The dialogue continues with each rotation, exchanging signs or smiles, creating a full conversation using just faces, bodies, and hands, like in a silent movie. The best part is during shift changes when the carousel is packed and seems on the verge of collapsing under the weightit feels like being on the subway at 6 pm, surrounded by a forest of stunning legs. That's when I lose my mind, not knowing where to look, dreaming of walking into that forest of legs, lying down in the middle, and dying right there, just like that.
That's how I'the like to leave this life, heading straight to hell, where I imagine people have more fun than in heaven.
Horny Cock
02-04-25, 15:43
That's how I'the like to leave this life, heading straight to hell, where I imagine people have more fun than in heaven.
Love that vibe. Quote of the day! .
Horny Cock
02-04-25, 18:47
Staying at a very nice residence in Asoke within vicinity from happening places. Been here for 8 days. I have tried 7 girls, 6 from Thermae, 1 from Wonder Massage 1-hour "nuru" massage. Call me Mr. Boring. I like consistency and sure-fire. I decided to give up "nuru" gel massage in Bangkok. I tried Dokidoki in my last visit in June 2024. Dokidoki is better. Still can't really compare to Tokyo. Saw some girls I met in my last visit but I don't repeat any of them yet, maybe one of them from ChiangMai b4 I leave the city. Out of 7 girls from Thermae, 6 were hits and 1 was a miss. The miss was a mum wtih one daughter. Not on her part but me being tired, I guess. One of the girls I took to supper with her the following night just to take a "break". She wanted the full 3K but I said "We didn't do anything and I bought her a nice supper for company" and I gave her $500 to send her off. Just finished a girl who has worked in a massage joint in one of the hotels in Macau. She was beautiful and a real spinner. Can communicate in my native language and can drink and vape in my room. That's a very good way to get to know the girl and foreplay. At the end, I put on her T-back and she was searching frantically for it. When she found out I was wearing it, she took the front and back pictures of me wearing it and let me keep it as a souvenir. Some more days remaining before I leave the city. A good break away from the rat-race. Cheers to Bangkok!
IIRC it was beyond siam, away from asok, but I don't remember the road after that.
The room: 1st /2nd floor, completely private, round table. Waiters ensured to close the door diligently before and after entering / leaving.
Thai friend spoke to a man who came in after orders were taken and each of us ended up with a decent looking naked lady next to us. Lots of fingering and very fun playful atmosphere. It was definitely cheap.
Anyone know where this might be?
Captain Solo
02-05-25, 01:25
She's a beautiful girl, flawless light skin, natural boobs, pretty face.
She hangs out on Soi 4 , in front of #25, with a dozen other girls. The tiny 4 ft girl puts on lots of make up, tries to make herself look old. The old chunky woman looks like a Mamasan. She translated for Kazach girl and confirmed to me she was all girl hehe.
Kazach girl said, toon 2-month tourist visa, will go home for a vacation and bring her friends to Bangkok to work.
MrHappyKat
02-05-25, 03:56
It's so bad that the going rate for ST in most places seems to be 3 k. Even some street girls ask for that nowadays.3,000 THB is less than $90.00 USD. $90 in LOS Angeles will get you a 15-minute CBJ car-date on Figueroa St with a crack ho who on her best day and in the best light (which may be complete darkness. LOL) will get a 4-6 on a scale of 1-10. Add to that a 25-30% chance of getting a ride in the backseat of a police cruiser and that 3 k THB GFE or PSE is sounding pretty good, if you ask me.
Yes, I get it; an average of 3 k in BKK is higher today than it was 10-15+ years ago. But that street hooker in LA was only $40-50 back then as well.
It's all about your perspective, Friend.
SlapShot10
02-05-25, 05:43
I hit Nana and found a cutie at Billboard (top floor, left side). She quoted 700 to the house and 4000 for her (2 hours). I said fine but 2 pops. This was around midnight, so she had the chance to make it back before closing time. She said no. A long back and fourth and we settled on 700 plus 5500 for her. Pricey but I believe Billboard is on the high end and she was a cute petite girl, nice smile, and I had it in my mind I was taking one from Billboard. Her name is Ploy, but not sure if she goes by that at work. She is from a town up north and her boyfriend was calling her the whole time she was at my hotel. She put her phone in the bathroom, which was appreciated. She gets naked, looks at me, and asks, "Smoke?" I thought she wanted to smoke some weed before starting or something. I said ok, and she starts blowing me. She had said with condom during the negotiations, but must have forgot about that rule or it was lost in translation. Ok BBBJ, not spectacular but not bad. CFS and we had a good time. I asked her if she wanted me to order her a moto to get her back to work and she said she would do it.
My last night I discovered that Stella Nuru Massage was right next to my hotel. The lineup was not exciting, and I was stuck considering three options, one of which was to leave. I picked a busty chick with shoulder length hair. Her working name is Queen. The mamasan chick was nice and awkwardly recommended two girls as twelve of them are standing in front of me. Anyway, nuru is sensual but definitely not a massage. She was doing the porn star moaning but not obnoxiously. I would normally tell her to stop but it kind of went along with the environment and massage. I think it was 3200 for nuru, 1 HR, and FS. She gave a great BBBJ, and then was very into the CFS. It turned out much better than I anticipated. There was another place just up the alley, but not sure if it was nuru, massage, or just for quickies.
I had two fantastic meals at Gaucho Argentinian Steak House. Pricey but solid. Hooters was a decent place to get a quick bite, check out the girls, and get in the mood before heading into Nana Plaza.
3,000 THB is less than $90.00 USD. $90 in LOS Angeles will get you a 15-minute CBJ car-date on Figueroa St with a crack ho who on her best day and in the best light (which may be complete darkness. LOL) will get a 4-6 on a scale of 1-10. Add to that a 25-30% chance of getting a ride in the backseat of a police cruiser and that 3 k THB GFE or PSE is sounding pretty good, if you ask me.
Yes, I get it; an average of 3 k in BKK is higher today than it was 10-15+ years ago. But that street hooker in LA was only $40-50 back then as well.
It's all about your perspective, Friend.This isn't LOS Angeles, never has been, never will be. A nice one bedroom condo rents for $500 and change. A better metric is to look what the local lads are paying.
For quite some time now, I've enjoyed spending my early evenings in go-go bars. Some of the girls could easily be top models. In this regard, it's clear that Pattaya far surpasses all other places. Last month, I went to Patpong and was extremely disappointed because it didn't match the memories I had of it at all. I found it to be mostly focused on male homosexuality, which personally isn't my cup of tea. Additionally, the place has aged and seems to struggle with reinventing itself. Nothing comes close to Walking Street (WS) in Pattaya, with its XS, Pin Up, Palace, Fahrenheit, and even Chick or Shark, not to mention Kink...., Thanks so much for this Pimp. You piqued my interest at Billboards so I'm going to check it tonight.
I also promised my analysis of EverythingThai's (ETs) last post, so here it is. First, a little context and perspective: I'm 60's, just broke up with my adorable live-in 20's GF so I could get back to mongering (I don't cheat), but I'm a really lousy monger as my drive is pretty low. It takes a young, super sweet, and very pretty girl to get me interested; I. E, she must be less than age 27, no kids, no smoking, not chubby, and must be sweet, smiley and at least a bit naive. Perfect teeth and beautiful face and hair along with lovely smell are also a must. I find no value in hardened professionals. I'm always seeking an inexperienced SYT / PYT and even then if I don't sense any sincere (or very well acted) interest from her then I'll just go home alone. With that in mind, I hit Crazy House as rx'd by ET early at 7 pm right after they opened. This was a mistake as there were only two other guys there and just two girls on the stage at a time that would cycle to two others after a while. 8 pm is a much better arrival time during the week as there were many more girls on the stage and things started happening with girls getting called for lady drinks, while there are still plenty of seats for guys at this time. I often don't find anyone attractive in places like this, but ET was right as there are a few cuties here that I'd rank 7 or 8. There were also a bunch of young girls with kinda pretty and not pretty faces that were quite fat which is a buzz kill for me. If you like pretty and chubby, you'll like Crazy House. Still, two stood out that were dang hot that I will be back for. I tried to gather as much current info as I could: a basic beer was 180 baht and the waitress was happy with the 20 baht tip I left. Girls came to offer themselves for a lady drink, but I declined. They were not pushy at all. I really liked the vibe of making eye contact with the girls on stage and getting eye contact and smiles back. Of course its business but it sure beats the lack of eye contact I've experienced in other places. The lady drinks are currently 400 and that will get you 15 minutes with the girl. Many of the girls are totally naked and were sitting on guys' laps this way. Staff told me that the barfine was something like 700 or 800 (forgot which) baht with ST being 3000 to 4000 depending on the girl. I really like this place and will be back as no one seemed scammy or pushy in any way and were all very polite, professional and attentive. I felt I could have sat there much longer just milking my one drink I bought with no blowback from staff. Total damage = 200 baht. I dug out after about an hour and headed to my old haunt of many years, Thermae. I just kinda love this place because I feel like the girls are probably closer to normal part timers (as all women are) and not full on professionals and the interaction between the girls, and of course the girls and guys is fun to watch. I normally stick around for awhile but was really amped to try out T-Ded-99 for the first time as ET recommended. To give you further insight into how low I am on the monger scale, I've been to Thermae probably 30 times in my life but never taken a girl out and only talked to a few. Lame, right? I've only recently got the nerve to eyeball the girls on my circular walk around the bar and talk to a few. Some won't make eye contact and I'm worried about being rejected. I've seen it happen with others. I'm also so redic choosey I'm worried I'm going to end up with a fatty or a girl that had a kid because the girls are all covered up. Keep that in mind if you're picky like me. Crazy House solved that problem because when a girl is full on sans clothing, WYSIWYG, right? Anyway, I caught a taxi ($5 USD) to TDed99. It was about 20 minutes from the Sukhumvit area. I got out wondering if I was in the right place, but sure enough the signage was clear. I didn't see anyone really hanging around outside like normally happens around the joints in Sukhumvit. I thought I should be scared of getting robbed since the area was more like a local neighborhood, but when I really looked around I could see it was perfectly safe. There were a few guys outside hanging out that turned out to be security. I don't speak Thai so I was nervous about communication, but the security guy just looked at me and questioned: "T-Ded-99?" I nodded yes and he motioned me to follow. It felt like I was going in the back door which made me a little nervous but then I got in the club and saw all the people so breathed a sigh of relief. I was a little taken aback as I expected something fancy with glitz like the Sukhumvit clubs try to be, but not the case here. I also noticed that I was the only caucasian in the place and no one (except the one security guy outside) spoke English. It was rather spartan and basic, almost ghetto, yet not. There was the long raised narrow strip stage with many poles but only about 3 girls were dancing and there were many booths with quite a few groups of young people eating and drinking and having fun. As described, there are also many private karaoke rooms lining the walls on both sides with glass doors so they are not very private but many were full. Oveall the place was very busy but not overcrowded and had a nice fun vibe. I was motioned into a seat at an empty booth of my own. I was quickly given a menu of food with English translations which was a huge help, yet the prices didn't seem terrible. Like a plate of food was maybe 100 baht more than what it was on Sukhumvit. I'm cheap but can deal with that. I ordered some food and drink, and mentally started preparing myself for getting overcharged and scammed. The food came and it was excellent. The staff was very attentive: pouring my drink for me, putting ice in the glass, etc. Some fat girls came by asking if I wanted a lap dance. I used sign language to say no and they moved on without a fuss. A staff member politely asked with sign language if I would like a girl to sit with me. I used my phone translator to ask if there are any girls in the place that speak English. She motioned for me to wait, as if I had a choice, sitting in my booth eating. After about 10 minutes, she brought a very cute 7/10 girl to sit with me named P. She was polite, flirty and friendly as she sat next to me holding my hand. I offered food but she declined and just wanted to drink. The beer I ordered ended up being big, and I don't drink much, so P started finishing it off. After about 1/2 hour she asked if we could get another and I said sure. We had fun talking and l really enjoyed learning about the place from P. Her English was passable but we needed to use the phone translator about 10% of the time which was no biggy. P was 27 and from Bangkok. She said she learned her English from Hong Kongers and Taiwanese customers. Her ST was 2500 which I think was for incall there at the bar but I'm not sure. LT was 6000. I was clear that I was not going to partake, and she was fine with that. Her sitting with me was going to cost 300 but I didn't get the time limitations. I didn't push it as this was my first exploratory mission for the team and I didn't want to push too hard to spoil the vibe by sending signals that I'm a cheap charlie even though I probably fit the bill. I like to consider myself a "value guy" instead but yea, I'm quite cheap. She also said the karaoke rooms were 150 hour. Between the menu and the fees she quoted, it all seemed quite the bargain as ET outlined, which of course is right up my alley. Now the good part. This place is wall to wall young cute girls. Many were sitting on other guys' laps in booths around me with their tops off while the guys juggled their silicone enhancements and enjoyed full on grinding lap dances straddling the guys in the booth. What fun!! I might try that next time but I'm still in emotional recovery mode (I. E. Still p-whipped from my ex). I really wanted to go to the toilet to see the massive girl lineup that ET had talked about nearby but I never got there as my girl P occupied my time and I was already overwhelmed from seeing all the mini-lineups that were paraded through the room when new guys arrived, as well as watching the girls on stage. Quality of girls? I was blown away! I would say at least 20% of the girls were 7 or 8 or even better, and they were all young. But OMG there were sooo many SYTs!! I started getting numb from ogling so many cute young girls. How to choose? I had no idea. And then I asked for the bill. I was expecting like 3000 baht or maybe even a Patpong style scam at like 10 K or 20 k since I'm obviously a noob. Nope! The girl, the two big beers and two plates of food totaled 900 baht. What? Yep! I was stoked! My girl P gently whispered "you can tip me". I said of course and handed her a 500 note and waited for her to complain. Nope! She squealed with delight as if she just won the lottery. Nice! She asked if I could tip her waiter and again I said of course and passed over 100. Again she squealed thank you several times over. This was easy! I love it. Total damage = 1500 baht. You know how we always say "Oh remember how good it was back in the day?" Well, this is that amazing place and its amazing right now at a bargain so best get to it ASAP. I can't believe this will persist. Its just too good and too cheap. I'm actually thinking about moving to this area so I can come back for dinner every night until I can actually get the cajones to act on my urges. I'm also diligently learning Thai to make all this easier. Anyway, I dug out early before midnight so I could get some sleep, but I'll probably go back again tonight, and tomorrow night, and the next. You get the idea. Monger on brothers! Cheers! A.
EverythingThai
02-05-25, 15:16
Thanks so much for this Pimp. You piqued my interest at Billboards so I'm going to check it tonight.
I also promised my analysis of EverythingThai's (ETs) last post, so here it is. First, a little context and perspective: I'm 60's, just broke up with my adorable live-in 20's GF so I could get back to mongering (I don't cheat), but I'm a really lousy monger as my drive is pretty low. It takes a young, super sweet, and very pretty girl to get me interested; I. E, she must be less than age 27, no kids, no smoking, not chubby, and must be sweet, smiley and at least a bit naive. Perfect teeth and beautiful face and hair along with lovely smell are also a must. I find no value in hardened professionals. I'm always seeking an inexperienced SYT / PYT and even then if I don't sense any sincere (or very well acted) interest from her then I'll just go home alone. With that in mind, I hit Crazy House as rx'd by ET early at 7 pm right after they opened. This was a mistake as there were only two other guys there and just two girls on the stage at a time that would cycle to two others after a while. 8 pm is a much better arrival time during the week as there were many more girls on the stage and things started happening with girls getting called for lady drinks, while there are still plenty of seats for guys at this time. I often don't find anyone attractive in places like this, but ET was right as there are a few cuties here that I'd rank 7 or 8. There were also a bunch of young girls with kinda pretty and not pretty faces that were quite fat which is a buzz kill for me. If you like pretty and chubby, you'll like Crazy House. Still, two stood out that were dang hot that I will be back for. I tried to gather as much current info as I could: a basic beer was 180 baht and the waitress was happy with the 20 baht tip I left. Girls came to offer themselves for a lady drink, but I declined. They were not pushy at all. I really liked the vibe of making eye contact with the girls on stage and getting eye contact and smiles back. Of course its business but it sure beats the lack of eye contact I've experienced in other places. The lady drinks are currently 400 and that will get you 15 minutes with the girl. Many of the girls are totally naked and were sitting on guys' laps this way. Staff told me that the barfine was something like 700 or 800 (forgot which) baht with ST being 3000 to 4000 depending on the girl. I really like this place and will be back as no one seemed scammy or pushy in any way and were all very polite, professional and attentive. I felt I could have sat there much longer just milking my one drink I bought with no blowback from staff. Total damage = 200 baht. I dug out after about an hour and headed to my old haunt of many years, Thermae. I just kinda love this place because I feel like the girls are probably closer to normal part timers (as all women are) and not full on professionals and the interaction between the girls, and of course the girls and guys is fun to watch. I normally stick around for awhile but was really amped to try out T-Ded-99 for the first time as ET recommended. To give you further insight into how low I am on the monger scale, I've been to Thermae probably 30 times in my life but never taken a girl out and only talked to a few. Lame, right? I've only recently got the nerve to eyeball the girls on my circular walk around the bar and talk to a few. Some won't make eye contact and I'm worried about being rejected. I've seen it happen with others. I'm also so redic choosey I'm worried I'm going to end up with a fatty or a girl that had a kid because the girls are all covered up. Keep that in mind if you're picky like me. Crazy House solved that problem because when a girl is full on sans clothing, WYSIWYG, right? Anyway, I caught a taxi ($5 USD) to TDed99. It was about 20 minutes from the Sukhumvit area. I got out wondering if I was in the right place, but sure enough the signage was clear. I didn't see anyone really hanging around outside like normally happens around the joints in Sukhumvit. I thought I should be scared of getting robbed since the area was more like a local neighborhood, but when I really looked around I could see it was perfectly safe. There were a few guys outside hanging out that turned out to be security. I don't speak Thai so I was nervous about communication, but the security guy just looked at me and questioned: "T-Ded-99?" I nodded yes and he motioned me to follow. It felt like I was going in the back door which made me a little nervous but then I got in the club and saw all the people so breathed a sigh of relief. I was a little taken aback as I expected something fancy with glitz like the Sukhumvit clubs try to be, but not the case here. I also noticed that I was the only caucasian in the place and no one (except the one security guy outside) spoke English. It was rather spartan and basic, almost ghetto, yet not. There was the long raised narrow strip stage with many poles but only about 3 girls were dancing and there were many booths with quite a few groups of young people eating and drinking and having fun. As described, there are also many private karaoke rooms lining the walls on both sides with glass doors so they are not very private but many were full. Oveall the place was very busy but not overcrowded and had a nice fun vibe. I was motioned into a seat at an empty booth of my own. I was quickly given a menu of food with English translations which was a huge help, yet the prices didn't seem terrible. Like a plate of food was maybe 100 baht more than what it was on Sukhumvit. I'm cheap but can deal with that. I ordered some food and drink, and mentally started preparing myself for getting overcharged and scammed. The food came and it was excellent. The staff was very attentive: pouring my drink for me, putting ice in the glass, etc. Some fat girls came by asking if I wanted a lap dance. I used sign language to say no and they moved on without a fuss. A staff member politely asked with sign language if I would like a girl to sit with me. I used my phone translator to ask if there are any girls in the place that speak English. She motioned for me to wait, as if I had a choice, sitting in my booth eating. After about 10 minutes, she brought a very cute 7/10 girl to sit with me named P. She was polite, flirty and friendly as she sat next to me holding my hand. I offered food but she declined and just wanted to drink. The beer I ordered ended up being big, and I don't drink much, so P started finishing it off. After about 1/2 hour she asked if we could get another and I said sure. We had fun talking and l really enjoyed learning about the place from P. Her English was passable but we needed to use the phone translator about 10% of the time which was no biggy. P was 27 and from Bangkok. She said she learned her English from Hong Kongers and Taiwanese customers. Her ST was 2500 which I think was for incall there at the bar but I'm not sure. LT was 6000. I was clear that I was not going to partake, and she was fine with that. Her sitting with me was going to cost 300 but I didn't get the time limitations. I didn't push it as this was my first exploratory mission for the team and I didn't want to push too hard to spoil the vibe by sending signals that I'm a cheap charlie even though I probably fit the bill. I like to consider myself a "value guy" instead but yea, I'm quite cheap. She also said the karaoke rooms were 150 hour. Between the menu and the fees she quoted, it all seemed quite the bargain as ET outlined, which of course is right up my alley. Now the good part. This place is wall to wall young cute girls. Many were sitting on other guys' laps in booths around me with their tops off while the guys juggled their silicone enhancements and enjoyed full on grinding lap dances straddling the guys in the booth. What fun!! I might try that next time but I'm still in emotional recovery mode (I. E. Still p-whipped from my ex). I really wanted to go to the toilet to see the massive girl lineup that ET had talked about nearby but I never got there as my girl P occupied my time and I was already overwhelmed from seeing all the mini-lineups that were paraded through the room when new guys arrived, as well as watching the girls on stage. Quality of girls? I was blown away! I would say at least 20% of the girls were 7 or 8 or even better, and they were all young. But OMG there were sooo many SYTs!! I started getting numb from ogling so many cute young girls. How to choose? I had no idea. And then I asked for the bill. I was expecting like 3000 baht or maybe even a Patpong style scam at like 10 K or 20 k since I'm obviously a noob. Nope! The girl, the two big beers and two plates of food totaled 900 baht. What? Yep! I was stoked! My girl P gently whispered "you can tip me". I said of course and handed her a 500 note and waited for her to complain. Nope! She squealed with delight as if she just won the lottery. Nice! She asked if I could tip her waiter and again I said of course and passed over 100. Again she squealed thank you several times over. This was easy! I love it. Total damage = 1500 baht. You know how we always say "Oh remember how good it was back in the day?" Well, this is that amazing place and its amazing right now at a bargain so best get to it ASAP. I can't believe this will persist. Its just too good and too cheap. I'm actually thinking about moving to this area so I can come back for dinner every night until I can actually get the cajones to act on my urges. I'm also diligently learning Thai to make all this easier. Anyway, I dug out early before midnight so I could get some sleep, but I'll probably go back again tonight, and tomorrow night, and the next. You get the idea. Monger on brothers! Cheers! A.Excellent report. I will say one thing. The lady drinks are not 400 Baht at Crazy House. 200 or 220 I believe. It's possible you bought 2 lady drinks, one alcohol and one coke without realizing it is counted as 2 drinks for around 400 Baht.
About T-Ded, you definitely should have pulled the trigger ST. The 2500 Baht ST fee is for the girl and it also covers the ST room across the street. So the room is prepaid. On a final note, if you got your girl to agree to Long time for 6000 Baht that's good. I don't mean because of the price, as it's actually too high. 5000 is normal. However, most girls never go LT so that says a lot about how much she must have liked you. I take a few LT but I mean very few.
Larbmoo555
02-05-25, 17:06
Her ST was 2500 which I think was for incall there at the bar but I'm not sure. LT was 6000.At t-ded for the longest time I thought LT was 3500, because that's what I was always quoted when I wanted to take a girl back to my condo. Turns out that's just the ST price if you don't use their hotel (2500 if you use their hotel) but every girl ended up sleeping over anyways 😂 go ST a girl at 2-3 am (shop closes at 5 am or when there's no customers) and it's basically "free" LT. Next time you don't need to wait for mama-san to bring a girl, you can go pick one yourself, it's perfectly acceptable. Mama-san will register her when she comes back around. But some girls won't go ST with farang due to fear of dick size so it's good to ask fairly early on.
Excellent report. I will say one thing. The lady drinks are not 400 Baht at Crazy House. 200 or 220 I believe. It's possible you bought 2 lady drinks, one alcohol and one coke without realizing it is counted as 2 drinks for around 400 Baht.
About T-Ded, you definitely should have pulled the trigger ST. The 2500 Baht ST fee is for the girl and it also covers the ST room across the street. So the room is prepaid. On a final note, if you got your girl to agree to Long time for 6000 Baht that's good. I don't mean because of the price, as it's actually too high. 5000 is normal. However, most girls never go LT so that says a lot about how much she must have liked you. I take a few LT but I mean very few.Thanks for the props ET. I actually didn't buy any lady drinks at CH, but I did ask the waitress about the pricing. She pointed at a little box at the bottom of the menu that said 400 so that's what I was quoting. 400 seems way too much so I'll go back (since I live across the street from CH, LOL) and try to verify. Heck, at 220 I'd be a lot more spendy. I'll be strict on "one drink" though. Regarding the T-Ded girl, I pulled her again tonight after I ate since she texted me on Line as I walked in the door. My ex GF was sure to tell me she saw this text too as my Line account somehow is doubled up on my ex's phone. I'm too old for this highschool drama but it makes for a good laugh. When I walked in there was a SYT dancing that had a 10/10 body and 7 face. I really wanted to grab her but she didn't make much eye contact and didn't smile, but sure gave me reason to go back. Staff was pushier tonight though: 1) Demanded a 100 tip for moving from a booth to a karaoke room; 2) said (in advance) that I had to pay 100 for plain water that was quoted as 50 on the menu and then charged me 50 again for the glass of ice but didn't disclose that up front; 3) told me in advance the karaoke room would be 200/ HR even though my girl P told me it was 150 the day before; 4) tried to charge me 3 hours of time when I had only been with the girl in the room about 2 hours. However they were polite about all this and when I told them that I was only there for 1. 5 hours they didn't argue with me and they did correct the bill. The rest of the charges above I consider spare change and my "tax" for not speaking Thai and being an annoying foreigner in their world so its no biggy. The service was good so I again handed my girl P 500 and gave a 100 note to each of the two servers that were constantly bringing us food and filling our glasses. Everyone seemed happy with their tips. I also gave my security guy outside a 50 note since he's super helpful, fun to talk to and speaks the best English of anyone there. And even though he's short, he looks like the type of guy that could destroy anyone that might try to bother me so I'd like to stay on his good side. The one odd thing was that there was a drunk local ruffian looking dude in the bar drinking a beer and ogling the girls. I don't know why they let him in. He came over to me while I was trying to eat dinner but he was in a drunken stupor and started speaking Thai to me while "cheersing" my glass of water and shaking my hand as if we were long lost pals. He was nice enough but it was pretty awkward and I had no idea what he was saying. Luckily after about 2 minutes one of the security guys gently stepped between us and shielded me from the ruffian. In any case, the night was a good time overall. Total damage for a nice meal, 2 large beers, and 2 hours with a cute girl in a private karaoke room, including all tips = 2800. Can't be beat. I did finally make the walk back to the toilet just so I could see the extensive lineup of cuties and sure enough they were there. Unlike Thermae or CH, only a few made eye contact as I walked by and I don't think any of them smiled at me so while I may test the waters to grab one on the next few days, I certainly didn't get any warm-fuzzies making that walk. My security guy says the RCA next door is part of their bar system so I think I'll go check that out. I never did make it to Billboards so that's on the agenda as well. And yea, I'm still trying to get my ex out of my head (she wants to FaceTime constantly) but will eventually get around to ST'ing a hot candidate as soon I regain my sanity and mongerhood. Cheers! A.
Mr Enternational
02-05-25, 20:22
3,000 THB is less than $90.00 USD. $90 in LOS Angeles will get you a 15-minute CBJ car-date on Figueroa St with a crack ho who on her best day and in the best light (which may be complete darkness. LOL) will get a 4-6 on a scale of 1-10. Add to that a 25-30% chance of getting a ride in the backseat of a police cruiser and that 3 k THB GFE or PSE is sounding pretty good, if you ask me.
Yes, I get it; an average of 3 k in BKK is higher today than it was 10-15+ years ago. But that street hooker in LA was only $40-50 back then as well.
It's all about your perspective, Friend.It has nothing to do with perspective and everything to do with Bangkok not being LOS Angeles. If that was the case then the perspective could have been from Bogota where $90 would. Get you way more than it would in Bangkok.
I hit Nana and found a cutie at Billboard (top floor, left side). She quoted 700 to the house and 4000 for her (2 hours). I said fine but 2 pops. This was around midnight, so she had the chance to make it back before closing time. She said no. A long back and fourth and we settled on 700 plus 5500 for her. Pricey but I believe Billboard is on the high end and she was a cute petite girl, nice smile, and I had it in my mind I was taking one from Billboard. Her name is Ploy, but not sure if she goes by that at work. She is from a town up north and her boyfriend was calling her the whole time she was at my hotel. She put her phone in the bathroom, which was appreciated. She gets naked, looks at me, and asks, "Smoke?" I thought she wanted to smoke some weed before starting or something. I said ok, and she starts blowing me. She had said with condom during the negotiations, but must have forgot about that rule or it was lost in translation. Ok BBBJ, not spectacular but not bad. CFS and we had a good time. I asked her if she wanted me to order her a moto to get her back to work and she said she would do it.
My last night I discovered that Stella Nuru Massage was right next to my hotel. The lineup was not exciting, and I was stuck considering three options, one of which was to leave. I picked a busty chick with shoulder length hair. Her working name is Queen. The mamasan chick was nice and awkwardly recommended two girls as twelve of them are standing in front of me. Anyway, nuru is sensual but definitely not a massage. She was doing the porn star moaning but not obnoxiously. I would normally tell her to stop but it kind of went along with the environment and massage. I think it was 3200 for nuru, 1 HR, and FS. She gave a great BBBJ, and then was very into the CFS. It turned out much better than I anticipated. There was another place just up the alley, but not sure if it was nuru, massage, or just for quickies.
I had two fantastic meals at Gaucho Argentinian Steak House. Pricey but solid. Hooters was a decent place to get a quick bite, check out the girls, and get in the mood before heading into Nana Plaza.It's funny you mention the Gaucho Steak House, can you recall how much you paid? I think I must have been drunk when I went there on my own but it's been bugging me every since. I think the bill was like 11-12,000 Baht for a starter, steak and a couple of drinks and tip. Which is like 300 - 350 bucks or close to it. I paid cash and threw away the receipt. I just can't believe I could have paid that for, let's face it, a pretty average meal (at that price range). I was definitely thinking in a different currency at the time (thinking it was like 100 bucks) or extremely drunk or dreamt it all!
A sudden urge to start considering retirement hit me a few days back, while working on my itinerary for an upcoming Indonesia trip. I booked a detour trip to Thailand to see if it's appeals as a long-term home.
My first 2 nights are booked in Bangkok, leaving 4 nights. Looking for insight on how to split that time. I'm considering Si Racha as a retirement spot, so a visit to Pattaya seems like a good plan (or I'm justifying a trip to Pattaya). An obvious solution would be to do 2 nights in Pattaya, then decide whether to stay, or go back to Bangkok. Another option is do 2 and 2, then take 2 in Si Racha.
Mongering isn't the top priority, but I'm going to do enough to keep me happy. I've already got Thai Friendly installed and thanks to all who have recommended it. It appears to be a gold mine. I'm a big fan of massage, so I'll be checking that out.
I'm looking for opinions and suggestions. What things make your favorite places better, for you? I doubt many here spend a lot of time in Si Racha, but any insight is appreciated.
The retirement thing is just the preliminary stage. I'm at least 2 years out, maybe 3.
EverythingThai
02-06-25, 01:13
Thanks for the props ET. I actually didn't buy any lady drinks at CH, but I did ask the waitress about the pricing. She pointed at a little box at the bottom of the menu that said 400 so that's what I was quoting. 400 seems way too much so I'll go back (since I live across the street from CH, LOL) and try to verify. Heck, at 220 I'd be a lot more spendy. I'll be strict on "one drink" though. Regarding the T-Ded girl, I pulled her again tonight after I ate since she texted me on Line as I walked in the door. My ex GF was sure to tell me she saw this text too as my Line account somehow is doubled up on my ex's phone. I'm too old for this highschool drama but it makes for a good laugh. When I walked in there was a SYT dancing that had a 10/10 body and 7 face. I really wanted to grab her but she didn't make much eye contact and didn't smile, but sure gave me reason to go back. Staff was pushier tonight though: 1) Demanded a 100 tip for moving from a booth to a karaoke room; 2) said (in advance) that I had to pay 100 for plain water that was quoted as 50 on the menu and then charged me 50 again for the glass of ice but didn't disclose that up front; 3) told me in advance the karaoke room would be 200/ HR even though my girl P told me it was 150 the day before; 4) tried to charge me 3 hours of time when I had only been with the girl in the room about 2 hours. However they were polite about all this and when I told them that I was only there for 1. 5 hours they didn't argue with me and they did correct the bill. The rest of the charges above I consider spare change and my "tax" for not speaking Thai and being an annoying foreigner in their world so its no biggy. The service was good so I again handed my girl P 500 and gave a 100 note to each of the two servers that were constantly bringing us food and filling our glasses. Everyone seemed happy with their tips. I also gave my security guy outside a 50 note since he's super helpful, fun to talk to and speaks the best English of anyone there. And even though he's short, he looks like the type of guy that could destroy anyone that might try to bother me so I'd like to stay on his good side. The one odd thing was that there was a drunk local ruffian looking dude in the bar drinking a beer and ogling the girls. I don't know why they let him in. He came over to me while I was trying to eat dinner but he was in a drunken stupor and started speaking Thai to me while "cheersing" my glass of water and shaking my hand as if we were long lost pals. He was nice enough but it was pretty awkward and I had no idea what he was saying. Luckily after about 2 minutes one of the security guys gently stepped between us and shielded me from the ruffian. In any case, the night was a good time overall. Total damage for a nice meal, 2 large beers, and 2 hours with a cute girl in a private karaoke room, including all tips = 2800. Can't be beat. I did finally make the walk back to the toilet just so I could see the extensive lineup of cuties and sure enough they were there. Unlike Thermae or CH, only a few made eye contact as I walked by and I don't think any of them smiled at me so while I may test the waters to grab one on the next few days, I certainly didn't get any warm-fuzzies making that walk. My security guy says the RCA next door is part of their bar system so I think I'll go check that out. I never did make it to Billboards so that's on the agenda as well. And yea, I'm still trying to get my ex out of my head (she wants to FaceTime constantly) but will eventually get around to ST'ing a hot candidate as soon I regain my sanity and mongerhood. Cheers! A.Nice one again. The security guy you are referring to is Kuhn Nut. I have known him for more than 10 years. He more of a jack kf all trades. He will bring you girls, translate for you and take care of any issues you have.
She's a beautiful girl, flawless light skin, natural boobs, pretty face.
She hangs out on Soi 4 , in front of #25, with a dozen other girls. The tiny 4 ft girl puts on lots of make up, tries to make herself look old. The old chunky woman looks like a Mamasan. She translated for Kazach girl and confirmed to me she was all girl hehe.
Kazach girl said, toon 2-month tourist visa, will go home for a vacation and bring her friends to Bangkok to work.I was hoping to try a short girl while there. Hope she'll still be there in a month. Whenever I look at profiles most seem to be around 5'2. Not sure if they are just posting that as its the more desired height or if its the most common.
Mosquito2002
02-06-25, 03:36
Nice one again. The security guy you are referring to is Kuhn Nut. I have known him for more than 10 years. He more of a jack kf all trades. He will bring you girls, translate for you and take care of any issues you have.Will be in BKK next week for a few days, arriving Sunday morning.
Send me a pm, if you'd be interested in a wingman for a visit to T-DED-99 Sunday or Monday night (aimless / everything thai).
Giovanni Volo
02-06-25, 15:08
https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/thai-police-dismantle-fiwfans-human-trafficking-network-rescue-two-girls
Fiwfans is closed by auotorities.
We will wee where to go all the gilrs (the regular ones, that I believe were the most part of them).
I hope they go to work in massage, it may be with some news too. A lot of them cannot speak English so I don't think they are the best for gogo.
We will see.
JimmyStreets
02-06-25, 15:30
Is the hotel listed below in a descent location?
Hyatt Place Bangkok Sukhumvit 24. I can stay for free. Worth it or no go with girls there?
Hyatt Place Bangkok Sukhumvit 24. I can stay for free. Worth it or no go with girls there?That hotel is close to the Emporium shopping center. Easy walk to Phrom Phong BTS Skytrain station. From there, it's one stop to the Asok Station and Soi Cowboy. Or two stops to the Nana Station, Thermae and the Nana Entertainment Plaza. When it comes to the girls, that depends. Some are fine making the trip back to your hotel, and some are reluctant to stray far from where you met. You'll definitely need to go by taxi. Alternatives include ducking away to a short time room, or finding a girl online who's willing to stop by.
Llantarnam
02-06-25, 19:06
https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/thai-police-dismantle-fiwfans-human-trafficking-network-rescue-two-girls
Fiwfans is closed by auotorities.The investigation revealed the involvement of approximately 46,000 women.
KrumeLurer
02-06-25, 22:20
Is this true? How far can they go?
EverythingThai
02-07-25, 05:06
Is this true? How far can they go?Man you must be shocked and maybe even fainted. I don't get it. Just use TF in Bangkok and be done with it. Just like Pattaya, Bangkok also has options for everyone. If you don't want to buy lady drinks, say no. If the prices are too high in the bar for ST and LT don't go. Use Thai Friendly. Go to Thermae. Go to a club. May I ask you if you have ever called a Sideline agency or girl and used the service in Bangkok. If so, can you report about it? Inquiry minds would like to know. I went to Nana the other night. Didn't like what was going on so guess what? I left and went to T-Ded 99. You have many choices, but those who constantly complain about prices in Bangkok are just wasting their time. I could understand if it was your first time. However, every post in your posting history or almost every post is only about pricing.
Jarjarmissa
02-07-25, 06:25
https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/thai-police-dismantle-fiwfans-human-trafficking-network-rescue-two-girls
Fiwfans is closed by auotorities.
We will wee where to go all the gilrs (the regular ones, that I believe were the most part of them).
I hope they go to work in massage, it may be with some news too. A lot of them cannot speak English so I don't think they are the best for gogo.
We will see.The website is KO now but not Tg group with 40.000 members.
Nice one again. The security guy you are referring to is Kuhn Nut. I have known him for more than 10 years. He more of a jack kf all trades. He will bring you girls, translate for you and take care of any issues you have.I reconfirmed. His name is "Ban" (pronounced like "On" I'll ask about Khun Nut.
Trip Report: Day 68.
Having had decades of success in the Phils using online dating platforms to find long-term sweet hotties, I was confident I could replicate the formula here in Thailand. My finely honed technique in the Philippines involved working the dating sites (FC, Seeking, PL, DIA you name it) to find attractive, genuinely sweet women for extended relationships. Armed with this succesful strategy, I signed up for ThaiFriendly, expecting similar results. To my surprise, I got nothing. Zero responses. Defeated, I shelved the idea until I stumbled upon ET's tip, the direct approach: "Want to earn money?" I spammed the message to as many profiles as possible. Jackpot! ET nailed it. My inbox exploded. Girls were eager to meet immediately, and it quickly became overwhelming. I managed to chat with a few, setting up a meeting with one who seemed promising. Unlike other mongers, I require a meet and greet first to see if a girl meets my expecations. She agreed, but expected 500 baht for "taxi fare", and quoted a rate of 2000 baht for a short time. I'm ok with this, and given my current lack of interest in on-the-spot ST, I figured I could give her the money and take her out for dinner if she passed muster upon meeting. We agreed to meet near my condo. Her photos looked un-photoshopped, and I was optimistic. I hit the gym, showered, and prepared for what I thought would be an easy win. She was late, but apologetic, keeping me updated on her progress. Finally, she texted that she had arrived. I walked over but on arrival my optimism deflated instantly. She was nice, sure, but decidedly unattractive. A 5/10 at best. And her personality didn't make up for it. After five minutes of polite conversation, I handed over the 500 baht, thanked her for her time, and dug out.
While the financial loss was minimal, the experience was time-consuming. It was a clear case of diminishing returns. It became evident that for my requirements, it's better to eyeball girls directly in a bar like TDed99 or Thermae and just deal with the fact that many of these girls will not try to build any rapport as they seek rapid customer turnover. Thus, ThaiFriendly was relegated to the back burner. I'll only revisit it if I spot someone whose unfiltered photos truly catch my eye.
Leaving the Starbucks, I revised my strategy. First, a stop at Crazy House, followed by a walkthrough of Thermae's nightly lineup du jour, and lastly, a serious look at Billboards. I headed to Crazy House with my primary goal to verify the cost of the lady drinks. The place was packed. Groups of men were talking with the staff outside, but I pushed my way through and asked about the price of the lady drinks. Again, I was quoted 400 baht, a price that I consider exorbitant. I'll probably partake at some point, but only when I see a stunner and ready to go ST. I wonder if this inflated pricing is a temporary anomaly due to Chinese New Year? If the price drops, I'll report back.
Thermae was next. The bar was packed to the rafters with guys and gals. After a slow pass around the bar, I spotted a few that were my type. Sadly, none of the cuties would make eye contact so I didn't talk to any.
The "back 40," however. Where the older, often fat, non-hotties congregate. Was another story. Navigating that area is like "running the gauntlet," with constant greetings and gentle arm grabs. "Don't make eye contact," I always mutter to myself. I'd been circling the room, people-watching, when I overheard a deflated American guy lamenting the strict business-like conversation he just had with one of the girls. "This is what I mean," he said to his friend, "I can't just pull a girl out of here after a price quote. I need to build some rapport first. "Normally, I wouldn't intrude, but my usual buddy was out of the country, and I recognized a kindred spirit in this guy. Seizing the opportunity, I tapped him on the shoulder. "Hey bro, I totally get you, but you're not going to find that here. But I know a place, TDed99, that you might like. It's pretty cheap, too. " The guys were immediately interested. It turned out "H" was visiting, while "A" actually lived nearby and spoke fluent Thai. After a quick chat, I offered to be their guide. A taxi ride later, we were at TDed99. While they liked the place, it was already getting crowded, and the prime selection of women was dwindling. I suggested hitting it right at opening for the best choices. We agreed to a future early visit. I gave them the grand tour including the hidden "toilet run" where all the girls line up on the long couch. My buddies quickly made their choices, grabing one girl each, but I wasn't feeling any sparks so sat with the boys in the booth without a girl. As we ate and drank, enjoying the constant parade of girls, a stunning girl strolled by; noticeably different from the others. Tall, sophisticated, wearing a long-sleeved coat, she exuded an air of purpose and confidence unlike any of the other girls. "She must be management," I mused. I asked A to inquire through his girl about her availability. "Not available," was the initial response. Disappointed but not surprised, assuming she was not for hire. A, however, persisted, asking other staff. Finally, he turned to me. "Yes. You can have her. " My heart skipped a beat. I pointed her out to a staff member. "Yes! I want her!" Moments later, she was sitting beside me, introducing herself as "C." She possessed a natural grace, clearly knew how to handle men and even spoke English! I was hooked, ready to be played. She explained the coat: she was apparently filming some sort of presentation. She said she had to get home to her daughter, offering me her Line ID before she left. In my excitement, I fumbled for my phone, handing it to her. The moment she opened it, catching a glimpse of another woman's photo, she feigned jealousy. This girl knows what she's doing, I thought. After a brief but captivating ten minutes, she prepared to leave. I offered her 200 baht as a tip, but she initially refused, saying she hadn't stayed long enough. I insisted, and she accepted. Then came the red flag. She stated that she couldn't leave without me paying an 800 baht bar fine, but she immediately qualified that she would pay it. I was concerned that she was trying to work me for the 800 just 10 minutes after meeting her. I politely opted out, explaining through my google translator that I live here, am a regular, and the bar would be upset if I lied to them about taking her out. She immediately backed down, saying it was no problem. Years of experience have made me immune to these types of subtle manipulations. If anything, it's a turn-off. Next time I visit TDed99, I'll text C in advance. I'll give her a chance to be genuine. But if she tries her tricks again? Blocked. C left, and I found myself alone again. Then, I spotted the cute little dancer from the other night, the one who avoided eye contact. She was now offering lap dances! I was too shy though between her not making eye contact the other night and my inexperience with dancers. Watching her move around the room, there was an undeniable sweetness and shyness in her demeanor. Something about her kept pulling me back, so I signaled an attendant and requested a dance. When she approached, her shy smile and giggling, partially hidden behind her hand, only amplified that impression. As I sat in the booth, she carefully mounted me, facing me and began to gently sway, rock forward and back to the music, mimicking FS. I put my hands on her hips and looked up at her. She looked down deeply into my eyes, smiled, and then quickly looked away in shyness. Her naivete and sweetness were captivating. She was clearly new to this, not a seasoned professional. The encounter left a lasting impression. I found myself wanting her more and more. I asked her for her Line ID, which she happily provided. As the night drew to a close, our group settled the bill; a surprisingly reasonable total less than 2 k that covered food, drinks, company, the lap dance and tips. We headed home, promising to explore other places together soon. Good times! Cheers, A.
ElMexicant
02-07-25, 12:35
https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/thai-police-dismantle-fiwfans-human-trafficking-network-rescue-two-girls
Fiwfans is closed by auotorities.
We will wee where to go all the gilrs (the regular ones, that I believe were the most part of them).
I hope they go to work in massage, it may be with some news too. A lot of them cannot speak English so I don't think they are the best for gogo.
We will see.You just have to be in the know or an OG Vet to find them now. You see the pic, it says yesterday date and the girls available. This is a question for Mr. Happy Kat. LOL.
Mr Enternational
02-07-25, 12:52
We agreed to meet near my condo. Her photos looked un-photoshopped, and I was optimistic. I hit the gym, showered, and prepared for what I thought would be an easy win. I walked over but on arrival my optimism deflated instantly. She was nice, sure, but decidedly unattractive. A 5/10 at best. And her personality didn't make up for it. After five minutes of polite conversation, I handed over the 500 baht, thanked her for her time, and dug out.Did you do a videocall first?
Is this true? How far can they go?You'll pay £150 sterling minimum an hour for a Thai in london, usually in a cramped shared flat and iffy service. If you want an outcall you'd be talking double that price and overnight you'd be talking thousands.
Cop on.
That hotel is close to the Emporium shopping center. Easy walk to Phrom Phong BTS Skytrain station. From there, it's one stop to the Asok Station and Soi Cowboy. Or two stops to the Nana Station, Thermae and the Nana Entertainment Plaza. When it comes to the girls, that depends. Some are fine making the trip back to your hotel, and some are reluctant to stray far from where you met. You'll definitely need to go by taxi. Alternatives include ducking away to a short time room, or finding a girl online who's willing to stop by.Nana and Cowboy are not the only places to find girls in Bangkok. I'm staying on Soi 24 in a few weeks, and I would have little desire to get on the Skytrain to go to Nana and drag a girl all the way back to my room when I can just walk up the Soi to the Soi 24 and Soi 24/1 massage places where there are places like Mango and Snow White, and a multitude of others. If you don't want to have a session in one of their rooms, most of them offer two hour outcalls back to your hotel room for 3500 baht all in. Many other local options as well.
To the OP: I would definitely stay at that hotel for free! They have a pretty nice rooftop bar as well.
At aimless, so I don't clog up the forum with too many quotes of long verbiage:
What part of Thermae are you calling the back 40? The back part of the bar facing the back wall?
The website is KO now but not Tg group with 40.000 members.I imagine the authorities know all about the Telegram groups as well. The article gives a lot of insight into how the entire operation went. It appears they caught one dude a while back and my guess is with the amount of information that they have about the money trail, which one can see in a tie YouTube video, that one dude probably flipped for a lighter sentence. The majority of agents have abandoned their telegram groups, so I'm not sure how a safe and secure the ones that are still up are.
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