Bangkok Reports

[Captain Solo]

1,500 Thb.

Midway down on the west side of Soi 4, in front of a small park with a low wall where lots of them sit on. A bro decoded it as #45.


How much was the damage to get her?

As soi 4 is pretty much crowded, where was she stationed?

[Interstella]

So, I don't want to dox myself, but fuck it, I've been going to Thermae the past 4 or 5 nights and wrecking shop after my initial failure at that venue.

I just love the setup of walking in circles as many times as I fucking please, while at most a woman might say "Hello, or maybe just gently tap me with the tip of her fingernail. I know this is grotesque, but there is a streetwalker on Soi 4 with what I assume is a "full-blown" something situation, like a 0 out of 10, who tried to grab my arm as I passed, and I must have looked like neo from the Matrix dodging that shit. I digress. I love the Thermae way. I take my time. I find what I want and I go for it. So far, I have only run into one woman who very politely refused my company (I look like a fucking white 6 foot plus peacock standing out as compared to most of the dudes there).

The second gal I took was a real sweetie, 24 but looked 19, ample breasts that were augmented, but she had enough "meat" on top of the implants that they looked quite nice and were enjoyable to the touch. She had medium-light dark skin, maybe 100 pounds and some change, around 5'4" I'm assuming, perfect straight dark hair, and just that college girl cutie look. I would say a very weak 7, but once I'm in the 7 territory I don't really give a fuck, it's all about service at that point. She was quite sweet and accommodating, no rushing, good blowjob skills, eagerly willing in her participation to make me blow my load. If the entrance of Thermae as you walk in is south, being behind you, I have seen her standing on the outside of the western wall, midway in the lineup of women that seem younger than those in the middle. I have seen her there multiple nights in about the same spot. Best I can do to help locate this one. Damage was 3 K.

The third gal I took was a fucking knockout. 8 out of 10 for sure, not a doubt in my mind. Maybe 100 pounds, 5'2", slender, natural small be size breasts, medium-light "dark" skin, and just classy looking. Like I felt proud to be seen out and about with her. Super sweet, dressed like a lady, funny, spoke decent English, gracious, etc. Again, if the downstairs entrance is South, as in you walk in and South is at your back, she would have been on the North side of the cafe, standing on the outside and a little off to the right where there's some seating. I have only seen her once there, so don't know about her return to that same place in the lineup. She looked 21 but ended up being 29. She quoted 4 K for ST, and something like 7 K for LT (which to her meant 5 hours, and like 2 shots, but really more if you want to grab a bite with her or have drinks instead of getting straight to it). I actually liked and hung out with this chick after our time together. Funny thing, she REFUSED to use my Japanese ultra thin condoms. She's super concerned about her health and I can appreciate that, but the one's she had felt alright so no biggie. So, damage was 4 K, but I got the extra hanging out with dinner and drinks for free, and those WhatsApp deets.

The fourth gal, was a fucking nightmare. She was cute, but upon further inspection I had agreed to 3 K for ST with a 6. But she's kinda voluptuous with light-white skin and ample breasts so I was still excited. Oh my god, was it cocaine, was it Adderall, who knows. She was like this strange little over-energetic ferret. I should have bounced before we got to the hotel, but I dunno, I wanted to see those titties no matter what I guess. Super weird energy, but we got down to the sex and it was an alright experience. She gave me the best service I believe she was capable of in her overly energetic state of existence. Avoid at all costs. She was standing on the "inside circle" if that makes sense on the northeast part of the cafe. But doesn't matter, don't do it!

The fifth gal I took tonight was an absolute delight. She was a bit "larger" by the standards around there, maybe 135,5'4", with banging titties and a nice juicy ass. Light skinned, and with a nice "shimmer" with whatever metallic flake product she had on body and face. Her service was fucking on point one hundred. And she had the perfect sort of boobs for a good damn boob-job, which is rare in my experience. It's either that bigger boobs aren't "taut" enough, or the taut boobs you do find are too small to comfortably fit a dick between, but hers, oh man, she just lubed those bad boys up and held them together with one hand and I held on for dear life. Moving on to the sex, she's just perfect, eagerly accommodating all requests, and just kinda feeling what I want along the way too as far as eye contact, and me placing my hand on her throat and all that jazz. Perfect session. Super happy to get those whatsapp deets. Damage was 3 K. I would rate her a weak 7, but then again, who gives a fuck, unless you're hunting 9's and 10's, and I wish you godspeed in that endeavor.

I love Thermae, but in my few remaining nights in Bangkok, I'm going to fuck up Soi Cowboy / Crazy House. As what I saw tonight on a Friday walking through, there are definitely one's there I want. I just failed to see the talent before. I tried looking up Flamingo to no avail, not sure if it's actually called Flamenco? Anyway, thanks to EverythingThai for the recs. Also thanks to all the gents whom have helped me on this first trip to Bangkok, and if there is anyway I can help in the future, I hope I can. As soon as Ukraine opens up sometime in the future for example, I'm heading there to see if any ladies would like to "hang out," haha, and will report on that or something. It's a lifestyle.

[Werqweq]

Haha. Agree. Luckily, I dress well, fit, polite, so don't think I've disgusted too many thai ladies. I've walked around those Soi alleys last year so know what you're saying. I took a bike tour of BKK and the bike shop was right next to them. But believe it or not haven't gone into any yet. I've tried to read massage thread but alot of it seems YMMV or hit or miss. Any specific shops you recommend from recent visits?

I'll have to pay a little more attention to Soi 23 and area around Cowboy this trip. Honestly I stayed at Sheraton Grande last year to experience Soi Cowboy and found the gogo bars and street was not my scene. So I migrated to Thermae, street, online. But I need to branch out a little as it's getting boring. Hence the mix of massage this trip.I guess I've banged the most girls at Alice massage, compared to the amount of girls working there. For some reason they seem to have more good looking girls than the other shops much of the time, even though it's probably the smallest shop. I'll pass by all 4-5 shops on each side of the Marriot M hotel to see though. Girls come and go all the time, day to day, and I've passed Alice massage plenty of times without seeing anyone I'd like to bang too, at which point I just choose the best of a mediocre bunch at one of the shops for a decent thai massage with nothing more, except usually a BJ as long as she comes down to my price of 1,000 for that. Not all do, but I'm there mainly for the massage, not sex, so it doesn't bother me. And if you want sex for sure, there are several sex shop on the same soi.

Soi 23 I'd put pretty far down on the list. It was much closer to where I airbnb-ed last time, but I only rarely went down that soi, and find it a bit too ghetto for my taste. Soi 23 is more "skanky women who sell sex, but pretend to massage", while soi 22 is more "normal girls / women who sell massage, but sometimes sell sex too".

[EverythingThai]

The night started out on Soi 7 around 5 PM. Went by the previous bar where I met the young cutee last time. She was there and gave me a big hug. However, this time there was something about her look that didn't appeal to me anymore. Last time she was done up much nicer. A sexy skirt, low cut top and her hair was down. This night her hair was up, she was wearing these god awful cheap shoes, and very little make up. Anyways, I decided to stay and drink for a while until the other bars opened. Drank with her, ordered some food from Taco Bell through grab and ended up being the DJ while drinking and eating. Spent about 4000 baht on drinks for me and a few of the girls before I made up an excuse and left. Man this girl kept calling me in line all night after I left. Had to block her finally.

Next stop was soi 4. Headed down to check out the beer bars. They were full of guys and very old and ugly ladies. It was not a good vibe in those beer bars for sure. Nana officially opens at 7 PM so I went in to check it out. Mostly empty bars and girls arriving slowly to work. Up on the top level Butterflies serves all the staff free food so I was able to chat up a few girls. I grabbed the line of one sexy girl and saved it for another night and left. It was a good way to kill half an hour.

Then it was time to head over to Thermae. I arrived at about 8:15 or so. There were about 10 Japanese guys out front in small groups, I guess contemplating when to go in. On either side of the entrance there were lady boys hanging around mixed in with a few normal girls who were looking for customers outside the bar. Walked down the stairs and was steered towards the bar for the customary mandatory drink. Girls were strolling in and paying their dues for being allowed to work their trade in the bar. Interesting to see how much the bar makes from each lady. Big stacks of bills kept piling up as more girls walked in and registered by paying their fee and showing their Thai ID cards. This is obviously to prove they are real ladies. However, these IDs can be faked and often girls use a friends ID to show in any bar. After getting my beer, I did a quick tour to see how the talent was looking. The pool kept growing as the night progressed. Girls of all shapes, sizes ranging from ugly and fat, to cute, beautiful and sexy, white skin, tanned, and a few dark slimmed ones, only a few. I did see one obvious post op ladyboy in there. Observations over the next 2 hours were as follows:

Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. What I noticed is the Asian guys came in groups of two mostly with a few larger groups. They sat most of the time chatting amongst themselves. Not too many people were approaching girls at the start. As the night progressed more girls arrived and more Japanese guys. The Japanese guys started approaching some of the girls. Conversations seemed very short and they were off in a flash. I would say not more than a few seconds of talking or a quick google translate conversation and they were off. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. From what I saw, he struck out twice before I left. The two conversations I witnessed seemed to be full of many questions from him and then ended with him walking away. Even one lady picked up an Asian client right after and it took her all but 30 seconds to close the deal and they were off.

About the girls. About 10% were acknowledging the western guys. The rest would not even make eye contact with them. Most looking down when they walked by. I also experienced this with some of the girls. The ones that acknowledged them would nod and smile meaning they were open for them to approach. However, most western guys just sat in their seats looking confused without approaching anyone. The girls were spread out all over the place. What I always find interesting about Thermae are the girls who stand a the very back and in the corridor at the back to the left that leads to the toilets and the hotel upstairs. Some girls like to hide there and refuse to come right into the bar. Meaning that if you are not a regular there, you might not even see all of the girls in the place. One big reason for this is the girls enter through the front hotel door on Suk and then enter Thermae from the back to avoid paying the fee. Ok, so I thought to myself, enough collecting intel, it's time to pull the trigger.

I was eying one of the girls in the back left corner by the back exit. Big tits, long black hair, white skin and a nice ass. I walked over and asked her how much for ST. She quoted me 4000 Baht. I said no condom is ok? She said 5000 Baht and we were off. For me, I don't like to fuck around. I could have got her to accept less if I had of negotiated, but I don't have time for this. Anyways off we went to my hotel. I don't like the ST rooms there so I always grab a hotel in Suk so I don't need to travel back home at the end of the night. I prefer to stay in the area instead of going back home and dealing with the taxi mafia in the evenings. Back in my room, we showered together and she gave a decent blow job in the shower. Not Tulip quality, decent. On to the bed with many different positions and a nice finish inside. Then a quick shower and good bye.

The night was still young so I decided to check out Soi Cowboy. It was packed and really commercialized. The Arab bars were in full swing where 80% of the girls are drink only girls and the rest come with large bar fines and very high rates and mediocre service. When they grabbed my arm to entice me to go in I would ask how much ST and they would say they don't go with customers. Then I replied to them saying I will go to a bar where the girls go with customers. Two had the nerve to tell me all the bars are the same LOL. Anyways, I visited Shark, Suzy Wong and Baccara.

The girls in Suzy Wong were all topless. Most with larger breasts. I didn't see anyone on stage I liked so I passed.

Next I went into shark and sat down for a drink. One Thai girl with blond hair approaches me and asks if I want her to sit down. She was a little spinner with a tanned sexy body. I ordered her 3 tequilas and we fucked around in the seating area. I had her bra off and was sucking on her tits and fingering her. However, I was not ready for another round yet so I paid the bill and left. She had offered me ST for 3500 plus bar fine.

Then on to Baccara. The place was full of Asian guys as normal. Talent downstairs was lacking this night. However, if you look up, there is a glass floor and the girls are dancing with no panties on so you can see their pussies. Up I went and sat down for a beer. I saw a cute girl. One of those girls wearing a white student uniform waiting for her group to dance and I motioned her over to me for a drink. She told me she studies at Chulu university majoring in law which surprised me. She spoke perfect English. We chatted over a couple more drinks and then I got a call from my bro from T-Ded 99 telling me it was off the hook there. Hundreds of girls and just a few guys. So I paid my bill and I was off. On my way out I chatted with the door man a bit after witnessing him steer an Indian guy to the outside bar to force him to buy a drink before he would let him in. Something that has never been asked of me. I asked him why he did that. He said that guys go in and walk around or hide in the corners without buying a single drink for them or a girl. Just go in to watch the girls dance. Anyways, I skipped crazy house this night as I have spent too much time there recently and wanted a break.

Arriving a T-Ded 99 I noticed the sheer amount of pussy there that night. Two days before pay day when the Thai guys have no money, the place was dead. Very few Thai guys, some Chinese guys and two foreigners. My bro greets me and takes me to my usual table. I take a stroll along the back corridor where there were about 100 girls sitting. Chose two girls and took them back to my table. I ordered some beers, snack foods and one of the girls asked me to buy her a vape kit for 150 Baht. What then transpired over the next 3 hours was sheer craziness. Eating, drinking and fucking around grabbing ass and pussy and making out with both the girls. At this point I was ready for a second round. I chose my girl, cut the other one loose and I was was off to the hotel. The damage was 2600 baht for the drinks, food and the sitting fee for the two girls. 1000 Bhat tip for my bro, 2500 baht for the girl ST including the hotel and 1000 baht tip for my girl after the deed was done at the hotel. Great night again at T-Ded 99 that consisted of drinking, eating, fucking around with 2 at my table and 2 hours of BB sex with a Lao hottee.

[EverythingThai]

So, I don't want to dox myself, but fuck it, I've been going to Thermae the past 4 or 5 nights and wrecking shop after my initial failure at that venue.

I just love the setup of walking in circles as many times as I fucking please, while at most a woman might say "Hello, or maybe just gently tap me with the tip of her fingernail. I know this is grotesque, but there is a streetwalker on Soi 4 with what I assume is a "full-blown" something situation, like a 0 out of 10, who tried to grab my arm as I passed, and I must have looked like neo from the Matrix dodging that shit. I digress. I love the Thermae way. I take my time. I find what I want and I go for it. So far, I have only run into one woman who very politely refused my company (I look like a fucking white 6 foot plus peacock standing out as compared to most of the dudes there).

The second gal I took was a real sweetie, 24 but looked 19, ample breasts that were augmented, but she had enough "meat" on top of the implants that they looked quite nice and were enjoyable to the touch. She had medium-light dark skin, maybe 100 pounds and some change, around 5'4" I'm assuming, perfect straight dark hair, and just that college girl cutie look. I would say a very weak 7, but once I'm in the 7 territory I don't really give a fuck, it's all about service at that point. She was quite sweet and accommodating, no rushing, good blowjob skills, eagerly willing in her participation to make me blow my load. If the entrance of Thermae as you walk in is south, being behind you, I have seen her standing on the outside of the western wall, midway in the lineup of women that seem younger than those in the middle. I have seen her there multiple nights in about the same spot. Best I can do to help locate this one. Damage was 3 K.

The third gal I took was a fucking knockout. 8 out of 10 for sure, not a doubt in my mind. Maybe 100 pounds, 5'2", slender, natural small be size breasts, medium-light "dark" skin, and just classy looking. Like I felt proud to be seen out and about with her. Super sweet, dressed like a lady, funny, spoke decent English, gracious, etc. Again, if the downstairs entrance is South, as in you walk in and South is at your back, she would have been on the North side of the cafe, standing on the outside and a little off to the right where there's some seating. I have only seen her once there, so don't know about her return to that same place in the lineup. She looked 21 but ended up being 29. She quoted 4 K for ST, and something like 7 K for LT (which to her meant 5 hours, and like 2 shots, but really more if you want to grab a bite with her or have drinks instead of getting straight to it). I actually liked and hung out with this chick after our time together. Funny thing, she REFUSED to use my Japanese ultra thin condoms. She's super concerned about her health and I can appreciate that, but the one's she had felt alright so no biggie. So, damage was 4 K, but I got the extra hanging out with dinner and drinks for free, and those WhatsApp deets.

The fourth gal, was a fucking nightmare. She was cute, but upon further inspection I had agreed to 3 K for ST with a 6. But she's kinda voluptuous with light-white skin and ample breasts so I was still excited. Oh my god, was it cocaine, was it Adderall, who knows. She was like this strange little over-energetic ferret. I should have bounced before we got to the hotel, but I dunno, I wanted to see those titties no matter what I guess. Super weird energy, but we got down to the sex and it was an alright experience. She gave me the best service I believe she was capable of in her overly energetic state of existence. Avoid at all costs. She was standing on the "inside circle" if that makes sense on the northeast part of the cafe. But doesn't matter, don't do it!

The fifth gal I took tonight was an absolute delight. She was a bit "larger" by the standards around there, maybe 135,5'4", with banging titties and a nice juicy ass. Light skinned, and with a nice "shimmer" with whatever metallic flake product she had on body and face. Her service was fucking on point one hundred. And she had the perfect sort of boobs for a good damn boob-job, which is rare in my experience. It's either that bigger boobs aren't "taut" enough, or the taut boobs you do find are too small to comfortably fit a dick between, but hers, oh man, she just lubed those bad boys up and held them together with one hand and I held on for dear life. Moving on to the sex, she's just perfect, eagerly accommodating all requests, and just kinda feeling what I want along the way too as far as eye contact, and me placing my hand on her throat and all that jazz. Perfect session. Super happy to get those whatsapp deets. Damage was 3 K. I would rate her a weak 7, but then again, who gives a fuck, unless you're hunting 9's and 10's, and I wish you godspeed in that endeavor.

I love Thermae, but in my few remaining nights in Bangkok, I'm going to fuck up Soi Cowboy / Crazy House. As what I saw tonight on a Friday walking through, there are definitely one's there I want. I just failed to see the talent before. I tried looking up Flamingo to no avail, not sure if it's actually called Flamenco? Anyway, thanks to EverythingThai for the recs. Also thanks to all the gents whom have helped me on this first trip to Bangkok, and if there is anyway I can help in the future, I hope I can. As soon as Ukraine opens up sometime in the future for example, I'm heading there to see if any ladies would like to "hang out," haha, and will report on that or something. It's a lifestyle.Glad you overcame your initial failures at Thermae. It's awesome there if you can get in the groov.

[Nyezhov]

Just so it's clear, the back entrance to the Thermae ithrough the hotel is not availailable.

Standard rates (at least for me) 2500-3000. Nobody pays more except for Asians or rookies.

It's easy to see the girls in the back corridor when you walk past. No hidden girls anywhere.

[Interstella]

"Then it was time to head over to Thermae...Observations over the next 2 hours were as follows:

Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. What I noticed is the Asian guys came in groups of two mostly with a few larger groups. They sat most of the time chatting amongst themselves. Not too many people were approaching girls at the start. As the night progressed more girls arrived and more Japanese guys. The Japanese guys started approaching some of the girls. Conversations seemed very short and they were off in a flash. I would say not more than a few seconds of talking or a quick google translate conversation and they were off. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. From what I saw, he struck out twice before I left. The two conversations I witnessed seemed to be full of many questions from him and then ended with him walking away. Even one lady picked up an Asian client right after and it took her all but 30 seconds to close the deal and they were off..Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.

[Captain Solo]

Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdU

[Interstella]

LOL. I was curious to see how you would fare after reading your intentions.

Cool and honest report. I enjoyed reading it. Some suggestions, if I may:

1) Say hello, first. I mean, just normal politeness, no?

2) You're not buying bbq-ed chicken liver at a street food cart, where four fingers would indicate four sticks of bbq-ed liver on a stick if all the guy is selling from his cart is bbq-ed liver on a stick. I've only been to Thermae once (last January), but 4 k could just as well be your offer for long-time, as a newbies offer for st. The time I went there I offered 2500 to the first girl I liked, as I didn't remember if reading here that the going rate for st was 2500 or 3000, and 2500 was what I paid her.

3) Don't drag some girl out of there if you're later on going to kick her out for insisting on condom for sex. I'd reject her if she insisted on condom for BJ, as that's not normal, but condom for sex is the normal thing, and if she lets you fuck her without condom, for more money or because she thinks you're ok, that's up to her.
Giving her 1,000 just for the trip before kicking her out sounds decent, and one can imagine if she does that twice every hour, after three hours she'll have 6,000 for nothing more than sitting on her ass in a taxi, so she should be more than happy, but she's not going to see it that way, as you found out. More than decent of you to then give her the remaining 3,000 though, and happy you ended up with a good experience anyway.

Will be looking forward to your next report. Live and learn.I appreciate your candor and suggestions. I'm only just now entering the second stage of my life, so it's like, you know, every three years I look back and think, "what an asshole I was three years ago. " The 30 year old me would quiver in fear of the presence of the man I am now, and I can only hope that I continue to improve in that vein. I want to treat these women well, of course, as I also want to in general, treat everyone well.

I can tell that there are some gentlemen on this forum that are indeed worth knowing and sharing with. So, I will continue to do so with reports and such. However, there are some ultra-senior members that I'm not sure if they have to power to "ban" me or not for expressing dissent. We shall see. Still need to figure out this crypto jazz and get my account upgraded. Cheers, Tom.

[Koryu]

Do many of you go bb with the free lancers or other workers?

Or do you go bb after few visits with the same one?

I definitely can't but I want to know how common it is. I'm just worried of catching something even with protection, knowing my luck 😂 BBBJ are a necessity for me.

[CCRider1008]

Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdUIt looks like prison in USA. All girls segregate by race. Haha. Lots more Africans than I remember two years ago when I stayed at JW.

[EverythingThai]

Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.For the record I have not given any opinion here. It was what I witnessed that night when I was there.

[CCRider1008]

Then it was time to head over to Thermae. I arrived at about 8:15 or so. Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. About the girls. About 10% were acknowledging the western guys. The rest would not even make eye contact with them.

I was eying one of the girls in the back left corner by the back exit. Big tits, long black hair, white skin and a nice ass. I walked over and asked her how much for ST. She quoted me 4000 Baht. I said no condom is ok? She said 5000 Baht and we were off. For me, I don't like to fuck around.

Arriving a T-Ded 99 I noticed the sheer amount of pussy there that night. Two days before pay day when the Thai guys have no money, the place was dead. Very few Thai guys, some Chinese guys and two foreigners. My bro greets me and takes me to my usual table. I take a stroll along the back corridor where there were about 100 girls sitting. Chose two girls and took them back to my table. I ordered some beers, snack foods and one of the girls asked me to buy her a vape kit for 150 Baht. What then transpired over the next 3 hours was sheer craziness. Eating, drinking and fucking around grabbing ass and pussy and making out with both the girls. At this point I was ready for a second round. I chose my girl, cut the other one loose and I was was off to the hotel. The damage was 2600 baht for the drinks, food and the sitting fee for the two girls. 1000 Bhat tip for my bro, 2500 baht for the girl ST including the hotel and 1000 baht tip for my girl after the deed was done at the hotel. Great night again at T-Ded 99 that consisted of drinking, eating, fucking around with 2 at my table and 2 hours of BB sex with a Lao hottee.White and Brown dudes looking lost at Thermae is funny. I was there 3-4 times last year and never really noticed the crowd I was just focused on the girl pool, and was never there more then 10-15 minutes as I found what I wanted and off we go. If I go this trip I'll have to go slower and just observe. I do like your directness and I agree it's best at Thermae. The one time I wasn't entirely clear upfront about what I was looking with a girl from Thermae it was an argument on services. Totally kills the mood.

I'm staying at JW in nana in few weeks and need some variety from past trips. I'm not a big gogo guy as its too hyped, transactional and commercialized. T-Ded sounds like more like overall better time for gogo. But I'm reading it's not really for farang's on holiday. Mostly all thai guys. True? I speak only basic thai words like "Hello," "thank you"; and don't need thai guys harassing me as a white guy going to their bar. Also wondering how far from soi 4 by taxi. Says 8 miles but that can be an hour + in BKK.

[EverythingThai]

I know your opinion reigns here.

Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.With all due respect, my opinion definitely does not reign here.

Secondly, what are you going on about? In the post that you quoted me on, I said very clearly I never went into Crazy House as I had spent too much time there recently and I have never depicted it as an upscale establishment and the fact that you think I an a tour guide getting a kick back from Crazy House is laughable. I never even reported on it in the post you quoted me on and my previous reports on it never depicted it as an upscale establishment. Also I posted my observation on Thermae on one given night. Meaning that another person on a different night or even the same night may observe something different. Your post is very strange to me and I really don't even get what you are going going on about. Anyways, as I said before, I'm glad you are killing it at Theemae. Enjoy.

[Nyezhov]

Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.Any non-asian or non-white dude in Thermae is going to have difficulty grabbing a girl.

90% of the girls there smile at me and I'm no prize. Any white guy that goes there is going to be smile that by 90% of the girls.

Your report is realistic, excellent and on point.

[TConor]

Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdUAny close by recommendations. What's it look like between noon and 3 pm?

[Mr Enternational]

Do many of you go bb with the free lancers or other workers?

Or do you go bb after few visits with the same one?

I definitely can't but I want to know how common it is. I'm just worried of catching something even with protection, knowing my luck 😂 BBBJ are a necessity for me.Humans fuck and they do it without condoms. What difference would it make if you fucked a hooker the first time without a condom or the 30th time? She is not your personal hooker. She has other customers too.

[Interstella]

Gentlemen,

For anyone that I have offeneded, I duly apologize. Especially EverythingThai. I essentially suffered a great familial loss while on this trip, and sort have been bouncing back and forth between this hostile and irritable monster, and then the down-trodden feeling, or "black dog. " The switches are rapid. I know this is a forum of sharing reports and will try my best to stick to that. I thought maybe I could kind of drown this loss by getting out there and trying to make the best of the trip and coming here and posting a bunch to get my mind off of things. Anyway, its inexcusable to be throwing around basesless accusations on a platform where people can't defend themselves in person. I can't say it won't happen again, as my black dog comes and goes as it pleases, as does the irritable, hostile, monster. I'm almost done here in Bangkok, and I believe my next adventure will be something like Azerbaijan, the home of my people so many thousands of years ago. Then I can actually start lending some "real" reports, like "going where no man has gone before, haha" Anyhoo, there it is, that's my apology and thanks for all of your help on this adventure. And believe you me, one day I will find a Stella, and I will enter her.

Thank you, and best regards.

[EverythingThai]

Gentlemen,

For anyone that I have offeneded, I duly apologize. Especially EverythingThai. I essentially suffered a great familial loss while on this trip, and sort have been bouncing back and forth between this hostile and irritable monster, and then the down-trodden feeling, or "black dog. " The switches are rapid. I know this is a forum of sharing reports and will try my best to stick to that. I thought maybe I could kind of drown this loss by getting out there and trying to make the best of the trip and coming here and posting a bunch to get my mind off of things. Anyway, its inexcusable to be throwing around basesless accusations on a platform where people can't defend themselves in person. I can't say it won't happen again, as my black dog comes and goes as it pleases, as does the irritable, hostile, monster. I'm almost done here in Bangkok, and I believe my next adventure will be something like Azerbaijan, the home of my people so many thousands of years ago. Then I can actually start lending some "real" reports, like "going where no man has gone before, haha" Anyhoo, there it is, that's my apology and thanks for all of your help on this adventure. And believe you me, one day I will find a Stella, and I will enter her.

Thank you, and best regards.No need to apologize mate. Crack on. I personally really like your reports. Especially on thermae. You struggled it the start and now you navigate it as a pro. Keep reporting and commenting.

[EverythingThai]

White and Brown dudes looking lost at Thermae is funny. I was there 3-4 times last year and never really noticed the crowd I was just focused on the girl pool, and was never there more then 10-15 minutes as I found what I wanted and off we go. If I go this trip I'll have to go slower and just observe. I do like your directness and I agree it's best at Thermae. The one time I wasn't entirely clear upfront about what I was looking with a girl from Thermae it was an argument on services. Totally kills the mood.

I'm staying at JW in nana in few weeks and need some variety from past trips. I'm not a big gogo guy as its too hyped, transactional and commercialized. T-Ded sounds like more like overall better time for gogo. But I'm reading it's not really for farang's on holiday. Mostly all thai guys. True? I speak only basic thai words like "Hello," "thank you"; and don't need thai guys harassing me as a white guy going to their bar. Also wondering how far from soi 4 by taxi. Says 8 miles but that can be an hour + in BKK.More and more foreign guys are going into T-Ded 99 these days. Ask for Khun Nut and Aimelss also has a guy there that helps him. Your first visit there will a little overwhelming but once you get used to the culture shock, you will end up loving it.

Here are some ideas to change up your routine for your next trip.

1. T-Ded 99.

2. Patpong go go bars.

3. Clubs like Mixx and Levels.

4. Bars and massage on Soi 22.

5. The pimp club.

6. Massage places on Ratchada and Rama 9.

7. RCA bars and massage.

8. Thonglor Soi 10 clubs.

9. Massage shops on Soi 23.

These are all places not talked about too much on ISG. T-Ded is now getting a lot of traction though.

I know how you feel about the usual haunts getting old. Soi 4, nana plaza, Thermae, and Soi Cowboy. Same shit different day.

[EverythingThai]

Last night I hit up a little karaoke bar in my neighborhood geared towards Thai men. Let me tell you, it was well worth it. So next time some of you expats are strolling around in your neighborhood and you see a small bar or karaoke, go in and check it out. You may find a gem. I got my bill at the end of the night for 4000 Baht. This included the use of the VIP room, a bottle of red label and the company of 2 sexy ladies who took care of me very well for 4 hours. It was like a mini Pattaya gents club in da room. Love it!

[Interstella]

Humans fuck and they do it without condoms. What difference would it make if you fucked a hooker the first time without a condom or the 30th time? She is not your personal hooker. She has other customers too.For the love of all that is holy, humans fuck, and this whole world spins forward by humans continuing to fuck without condoms. I coudn't agree more! A man should never have to defend or equivocate why he wants, and in my opinion NEEDS, to dump loads in a wet vagina, it's a primal biological drive, end of discussion. So to any forum members who have a problem with it, I dunno, you do you, and I'll keep being a human being while you sip on your copium.

Couldn't agree with Mr. Enternational more here. EVERY woman allows a guy to bareback her at somepoint, only question is will it be you under your current set of cicrcumstances. Don't fool yourself, you've gone on a date with a civillian woman at somepoint who made you wear a condom (happens to us all) only to let a "Chad" fuck her raw the next night knowing she won't ever hear from him again. Most women think some 10/10 billionaire prince charming is what they deserve, and are stupidly waiting for. I'm a bit of a misogynist I suppose, but I would just call it being a realist. When it comes to paying women for BBFS however, I try to be very respectful, I refuse to try and strong arm a woman into BBFS with money. I will offer extra money if she initially declines BBFS, but if I can tell she is under any sort of duress I drop the topic or session. Same goes for the CIP thing, that's what I want, but like I'm not going to demand it in an ungentlemanly fashion.

There's always a delay to my posts due to being needed to be "reviewed," but I made a post about how essentially as an elder-millenial, and previous generations as well, we were flat out LIED to as to the risks and probability of pregnancy and contraction of diseases with unprotected sex. I was basically taught you will one hundred percent get a woman pregnant on the first time of unportected sex, and if someone has an STD you will one hundred percent catch it from a single encounter. I was taught this in sex ed as a child. It's fucking abusive to mislead a developing mind that way. I'm not saying go out there and bareback everything in sight, let me tell yah having Chlamydia and Gonorhea at the same time fucking sucked (only thing I've gotten in years of mongering,) but I deserved it dumping a load into a rough looking but hot little number from Talisay. Just live your life man, and accept the consequences, it's all random, and it's scary, but don't waste it listening to the chatter of your youth. End rant, haha.

[Interstella]

So, I gots some questions as to the pricing with Soi 4 walkers, and of course, me looking like a 6 foot plus stork walking around like the most obvious tourist you've ever seen. Still dressed to impress and clean cut, but I know what I look like and the sort of response it gets with these ladies (let's drain this bozo of his money).

Anyhoo, I am get quoted, the exact same amount from these Soi 4 girls that I weed out as looking just as good as the ones I find in Thermae, but they are also quoting me the same exact number I get quoted in Thermae! 3 K for short time. It's not a bad deal, but I here you guys are left and right pulling these honeys for 1,500 Baht. I'm not a bargain hunter and don't like to haggle, so it's not the end of the world, but are these Soi 4 sweeties just taking me for a ride with the 3 K request?

Short field report. Upon returning to Soi 4 many nights to see what was out and about I recant my previous opinion that there isn't talent worth taking from there. The first one was vietnamese, early 20's, tiny frame, enhanced breasts (why do they ALL have to have fake boobs, just keep your A sized boobs, you weigh 100 pounds for the love of god you look fine! So she had some large be salad bowls bolted on, which again is disappointing when the clothes come off. Maybe I will start requesting a short and discreet squeeze of the goods for 50 Baht before I consider taking one next time, I digress. I requested BBFS, and she agreed somewhat reluctantly, but asked that I finish outside, which is fine. I will say that little hotel that's 300 baht is not my favorite place to go inside, but its whatevs. We shower up real quick, she gives me a blowjob to the degree I'm assuming she's never watched porn before AT ALL, anyway, who cares because the main course is coming up. Haha, I'm getting all excited typing this just thinking about it, plowing away in that sweet ravine as god intended, and then unfortunately withdrawing to blast as god did not intend, LOL. Perfect session. Total damage 3 K, plus 300 for the room, and I let her keep the 700 Baht in change. She was a serious cutie, so I felt I got my moneys worth.

Second girl I took, who knows what nationality, probably Thai, don't really care. Early 20's, again probably 100 pounds, light skinned, and again you guessed it: 3 K Baht requested right out of the gate and I just don't have it in me to haggle with a young sweet thing over 45 USD extra over market value as discussed here (1500 Baht). So off we go to that hotel I'm not a fan of for 300 baht, (whatever, maybe that's just the dumb tourist price don't' care). This one wants to use a condom, I offered 1000 baht extra but she declined, so I let her blow me raw for an extra long time (by that I mean 5 minutes for me, haha) then I suited up and pumped away. She was cool with the whole hand on the throat jazz, which I'm super into, and she was like a champ trying to getting into any position I wanted as fast as possible. I guess that probably behooves her in her line of work, "let's get this guy to cum as quick as possible. " A very nice girl, she took care of me. So again 3 K Baht, 300 for the hotel, and to her the 700 in change.

If I was still in a hotel close to Thermae, I would just keep going there honestly, but I really wanted to explore as many avenues as possible here, "street meat" being one of them. I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn. I'll pay the fucking barfine, I'll pay for some drinks I won't even drink, whatever, "I want boom boom with you" - hot girl nods yes. Mamasan is just completely confused by this and I tell her "I pay, how much, go inside?" "Barfine how much?" Hot girl is obviously not free to make her own decisions despite her grabbing my arm and stopping me to say Hello, to her. I literally got my wad of money out like a fucking chump and was like "have money, will pay" and mamasan is again just not doing anything to usher my very obvious request into a financially beneficial situation for her and this poor girl who missed out. Where did I go wrong, I dunno, but Soi Cowboy just seems like an unecessary shit show for me at least. I've got shit to do. I want to find a girl, offer her some money, shower up, fuck, shower again, say a quick goodbye while we both dress with some light chit-chat, and be on my way. I suppose that's not happening there. Ugh, I'm ranting again.

[Interstella]

No need to apologize mate. Crack on. I personally really like your reports. Especially on thermae. You struggled it the start and now you navigate it as a pro. Keep reporting and commenting.No worries at all mate! I will crack on, and thank you for the wonderfully accurate info of both Thermae and Crazy House of which you seem to be such an authority on. I would hate for someone to hold a grudge, and let it fester in them, planning some sort of secret scheme to attack at a later date, or otherwise acting like a woman. Whereas, I try to apologize, and deal with my feelings in a direct manner, addressing grievances truthfully and straightforwardly. I think I have Bangkok down at this point, so thank you for all of your valuable insights to date!

Let's see what to report on now, oh yeah, Thermae is very easily accessed by white guys, despite whatever chatter you might hear. 3 K seems to be a good entry level starting point for discussions of ST, and the price goes up from there for special requests BBFS, and LT, and such. You know, after I have gone straight to the "source" or talking to the actual women about how Thermae works, instead of the opinion of some woman whom I'm not sure has even been inside there. That's my report for the day.

[CCRider1008]

Second girl I took, who knows what nationality, probably Thai, don't really care. Early 20's, again probably 100 pounds, light skinned, and again you guessed it: 3 K Baht requested right out of the gate and I just don't have it in me to haggle with a young sweet thing over 45 USD extra over market value as discussed here (1500 Baht). So off we go to that hotel I'm not a fan of for 300 baht, (whatever, maybe that's just the dumb tourist price don't' care). This one wants to use a condom, I offered 1000 baht extra but she declined, so I let her blow me raw for an extra long time (by that I mean 5 minutes for me, haha) then I suited up and pumped away.

If I was still in a hotel close to Thermae, I would just keep going there honestly, but I really wanted to explore as many avenues as possible here, "street meat" being one of them. I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn.Yeah the mamasans are robots and dictatorial. Go outside their stated "routine" of actually going into the bar, buying girl drinks and then negotiating they take a hissy fit like you're some sort of criminal. Some girls are like that too. Particularly in massage shops. Don't follow their massage routine then it's like you committed murder.

Curious, you negotiated BBFS with girl 1 on street, but did not with girl 2 until hotel. Was she giving you a submissive vibe on the street so you didn't think it would be an issue?

[Interstella]

Yeah the mamasans are robots and dictatorial. Go outside their stated "routine" of actually going into the bar, buying girl drinks and then negotiating they take a hissy fit like you're some sort of criminal. Some girls are like that too. Particularly in massage shops. Don't follow their massage routine then it's like you committed murder.

Curious, you negotiated BBFS with girl 1 on street, but did not with girl 2 until hotel. Was she giving you a submissive vibe on the street so you didn't think it would be an issue?So yes, essentially the girl that I got BBFS just kinda seemed more easy to negotiate with and submissive right from the start, some people are just easy to deal with and I feel like I can just go with it. She seemed a bit dismayed at first at my request of BBFS, but I think her concerns were more fear of prenancy than anything else, which is understandable for a young woman. I was happy to oblige her request to pull out for the pop. I don't know how to put this mildly, so I will just say it, I'm not sure that her education level would have allowed her to understand that I have a vasectomy, or what a vasectomy even is or a possible reality in her world, and thusly I can't have kids. I told her I can't have kids to make it simple, but still no CIP, no big deal. And honestly, I'm still getting my "sea-legs" here in Bangkok, I'm a bit of a mess socially, as has become painfully obvious on this forum, but such is life.

Girl 2, was a hustler, should have put that in the report but I figured since there's no way to really "identify" these girls in a way to where one of you gents could find them and have a go, I left that part out. Walking to the hotel, suddenly she's facetiming some girl who shows up in I shit you not 15 seconds fucking flat. And they start trying to pull this let's have a threesome jazz. I wasn't born yesterday, no fucking way. I was mildly annoyed at this point. So honestly, after that, it's not like I was happy to "suit up" but we're obviously dealing with a harderned pro here, so a condom insn't the worst idea in the world I thought, and her head game was on point so I chalked it up to a "win" even sans BBFS.

Thanks for the insights on the whole mamamsan jazz. That's exactly how I felt, like I just want to fuck this woman and I have money can we make this happen? I am willing to pay whatever the standard rate is. Nope, this mamasan wasn't having it so I just walked away, obviously annoyed, and I bet she could give a fuck less and thought I was being an arrogant asshole. It was going fine until she showed up, the girl I was into was hot, and was like "yeah, boom boom, we go. " Oh well.

[Werqweq]

I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn. I'll pay the fucking barfine, I'll pay for some drinks I won't even drink, whatever, "I want boom boom with you" - hot girl nods yes. Mamasan is just completely confused by this and I tell her "I pay, how much, go inside?" "Barfine how much?" Hot girl is obviously not free to make her own decisions despite her grabbing my arm and stopping me to say Hello, to her. I literally got my wad of money out like a fucking chump and was like "have money, will pay" and mamasan is again just not doing anything to usher my very obvious request into a financially beneficial situation for her and this poor girl who missed out. Where did I go wrong, I dunno, but Soi Cowboy just seems like an unecessary shit show for me at least. I've got shit to do. I want to find a girl, offer her some money, shower up, fuck, shower again, say a quick goodbye while we both dress with some light chit-chat, and be on my way. I suppose that's not happening there. Ugh, I'm ranting again.To get a good experience, you need to adjust to where you are, and show some respect to the people here who know better than you (Mr. Enternational, Nyezhov, etc.), and can offer you some tips if they bother spending the time to write it.

I'm sure you've heard the expression "when in Rome ..." Maybe you can go in to a go-go bar and go out with a girl without paying for a drink, but before you can do that you need to understand how things normally work there. When learning to drive, you need to do things by the book. After enough experience, you start adjusting and understand how and when you can break the rules.

In Thailand, after you enter a go-go, if you're going to say much more than "Hello, how are you, short-time with you how much?*" to a girl, it is expected you buy both her and yourself a drink. She and the bar make money from that, and the girl normally also has a quota of "lady drinks" she needs to sell every month, or it will be deducted from her salary. During that one drink, which costs around 200-250 baht, you evaluate her. Some go-go bars have a scam going where they make you pay for two drinks. One with the alcohol, and one for mixing. Like "whiskey coke" is actually a glass of whiskey, and a separate glass of coke at these places. If they try that, tell them "one drink only". During the drink you chat and fondle the girl a bit, figuring out if you want her to go with you or not. Then you pay the barfine at the bar, ignoring any requests for buying one more drink unless you want to, and pay the girl at your place /after/ you have finished banging her.

There are other places where you can "point and shoot", but go-go bars are not it, and so you need to adjust. Maybe you can take the go-go girl out without buying a drink if you're quick, know what you're doing, and the girl and mamasan also agree you know what you're doing, but then, in addition to coming off as a bit original, you'll be paying 1000+ in barefine, then 3000+ for short-time, plus taxi, plus having spent an hour+ going to the go-go bars, finding your girl, and back to your cave in the hills. All that without having much of an idea of whether the girl you choose is overly drunk, crazy, an annoying idiot, a cold fish, someone who thinks you are disgusting but she will fuck you with a minimal performance anyway, or something else that would have made you change your mind had you spent 5-10 minutes and 250 baht on having a drink with her.

I see the drink price of 250 thb as the price I have to pay to reduce the chance of 30 minutes later feeling I wasted 4,000+ and an evening. That's why I'd only skip the drink it if it was a girl I already knew, but in that case I'd just invite her over before or after work via private messages instead, saving both the price of the barfine and getting a cheaper rate for the short-time.

And stay away from the arab's bar on Soi cowboy.

*I recommend asking this before buying the drink only because some go-go bars, for some reason, have girls who do not go with customers. Or as has happened with me, the girl is on her period that night. 10 minutes later, she will not care or remember she already told you her price, and you can instead suggest a different price yourself if you want.

[Crater77]

Seems like you are using this forum for your therapy.

RTFF and you will know what you did wrong!! Very much possible that you are making all these encounters (as lot of members see your inaccuracies) or you have some real issues (as you said yourself).

In short keep your shit together. This ain't your therapy session.


So, I gots some questions as to the pricing with Soi 4 walkers, and of course, me looking like a 6 foot plus stork walking around like the most obvious tourist you've ever seen. Still dressed to impress and clean cut, but I know what I look like and the sort of response it gets with these ladies (let's drain this bozo of his money).

Anyhoo, I am get quoted, the exact same amount from these Soi 4 girls that I weed out as looking just as good as the ones I find in Thermae, but they are also quoting me the same exact number I get quoted in Thermae! 3 K for short time. It's not a bad deal, but I here you guys are left and right pulling these honeys for 1,500 Baht. I'm not a bargain hunter and don't like to haggle, so it's not the end of the world, but are these Soi 4 sweeties just taking me for a ride with the 3 K request?

Short field report. Upon returning to Soi 4 many nights to see what was out and about I recant my previous opinion that there isn't talent worth taking from there. The first one was vietnamese, early 20's, tiny frame, enhanced breasts (why do they ALL have to have fake boobs, just keep your A sized boobs, you weigh 100 pounds for the love of god you look fine! So she had some large be salad bowls bolted on, which again is disappointing when the clothes come off. Maybe I will start requesting a short and discreet squeeze of the goods for 50 Baht before I consider taking one next time, I digress. I requested BBFS, and she agreed somewhat reluctantly, but asked that I finish outside, which is fine. I will say that little hotel that's 300 baht is not my favorite place to go inside, but its whatevs. We shower up real quick, she gives me a blowjob to the degree I'm assuming she's never watched porn before AT ALL, anyway, who cares because the main course is coming up. Haha, I'm getting all excited typing this just thinking about it, plowing away in that sweet ravine as god intended, and then unfortunately withdrawing to blast as god did not intend, LOL. Perfect session. Total damage 3 K, plus 300 for the room, and I let her keep the 700 Baht in change. She was a serious cutie, so I felt I got my moneys worth.

Second girl I took, who knows what nationality, probably Thai, don't really care. Early 20's, again probably 100 pounds, light skinned, and again you guessed it: 3 K Baht requested right out of the gate and I just don't have it in me to haggle with a young sweet thing over 45 USD extra over market value as discussed here (1500 Baht). So off we go to that hotel I'm not a fan of for 300 baht, (whatever, maybe that's just the dumb tourist price don't' care). This one wants to use a condom, I offered 1000 baht extra but she declined, so I let her blow me raw for an extra long time (by that I mean 5 minutes for me, haha) then I suited up and pumped away. She was cool with the whole hand on the throat jazz, which I'm super into, and she was like a champ trying to getting into any position I wanted as fast as possible. I guess that probably behooves her in her line of work, "let's get this guy to cum as quick as possible. " A very nice girl, she took care of me. So again 3 K Baht, 300 for the hotel, and to her the 700 in change.

If I was still in a hotel close to Thermae, I would just keep going there honestly, but I really wanted to explore as many avenues as possible here, "street meat" being one of them. I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn. I'll pay the fucking barfine, I'll pay for some drinks I won't even drink, whatever, "I want boom boom with you" - hot girl nods yes. Mamasan is just completely confused by this and I tell her "I pay, how much, go inside?" "Barfine how much?" Hot girl is obviously not free to make her own decisions despite her grabbing my arm and stopping me to say Hello, to her. I literally got my wad of money out like a fucking chump and was like "have money, will pay" and mamasan is again just not doing anything to usher my very obvious request into a financially beneficial situation for her and this poor girl who missed out. Where did I go wrong, I dunno, but Soi Cowboy just seems like an unecessary shit show for me at least. I've got shit to do. I want to find a girl, offer her some money, shower up, fuck, shower again, say a quick goodbye while we both dress with some light chit-chat, and be on my way. I suppose that's not happening there. Ugh, I'm ranting again.

[Interstella]

To get a good experience, you need to adjust to where you are, and show some respect to the people here who know better than you (Mr. Enternational, Nyezhov, etc.), and can offer you some tips if they bother spending the time to write it.

I'm sure you've heard the expression "when in Rome ..." Maybe you can go in to a go-go bar and go out with a girl without paying for a drink, but before you can do that you need to understand how things normally work there. When learning to drive, you need to do things by the book. After enough experience, you start adjusting and understand how and when you can break the rules.

In Thailand, after you enter a go-go, if you're going to say much more than "Hello, how are you, short-time with you how much?*" to a girl, it is expected you buy both her and yourself a drink. She and the bar make money from that, and the girl normally also has a quota of "lady drinks" she needs to sell every month, or it will be deducted from her salary. During that one drink, which costs around 200-250 baht, you evaluate her. Some go-go bars have a scam going where they make you pay for two drinks. One with the alcohol, and one for mixing. Like "whiskey coke" is actually a glass of whiskey, and a separate glass of coke at these places. If they try that, tell them "one drink only". During the drink you chat and fondle the girl a bit, figuring out if you want her to go with you or not. Then you pay the barfine at the bar, ignoring any requests for buying one more drink unless you want to, and pay the girl at your place /after/ you have finished banging her.

There are other places where you can "point and shoot", but go-go bars are not it, and so you need to adjust. Maybe you can take the go-go girl out without buying a drink if you're quick, know what you're doing, and the girl and mamasan also agree you know what you're doing, but then, in addition to coming off as a bit original, you'll be paying 1000+ in barefine, then 3000+ for short-time, plus taxi, plus having spent an hour+ going to the go-go bars, finding your girl, and back to your cave in the hills. All that without having much of an idea of whether the girl you choose is overly drunk, crazy, an annoying idiot, a cold fish, someone who thinks you are disgusting but she will fuck you with a minimal performance anyway, or something else that would have made you change your mind had you spent 5-10 minutes and 250 baht on having a drink with her.

I see the drink price of 250 thb as the price I have to pay to reduce the chance of 30 minutes later feeling I wasted 4,000+ and an evening. That's why I'd only skip the drink it if it was a girl I already knew, but in that case I'd just invite her over before or after work via private messages instead, saving both the price of the barfine and getting a cheaper rate for the short-time.

And stay away from the arab's bar on Soi cowboy.

*I recommend asking this before buying the drink only because some go-go bars, for some reason, have girls who do not go with customers. Or as has happened with me, the girl is on her period that night. 10 minutes later, she will not care or remember she already told you her price, and you can instead suggest a different price yourself if you want.That's a great walkthrough / overview and will employ that upon my next return. As far as giving my respect to the "greats" or otherwise, those who have been reknowned here to have trod upon these paths I wish to travel so many times before I, I couldn't agree more. I'm going to limit myself in the future on this forum, to trying to give factual reports, and hopefully lending actionable information when I can. For example, I believe I learned on the trip a method for telling if a woman is a genetic woman or not quickly by just inspecting her foreram quickly for a distinct variation in "carrying angle. " This can be done while saying "Hello," to a respective streetwalker, go go, or whatever. I know you may have 100 percent ladyboy detection, but I would rate mine at a 99%, because I took one from Soi 4, and right before we enter that ol' 300 Baht hotel, I ask her "are you ladyboy. " She blew the fuck up! She started demanding 100 Baht, because I was now, no longer interested for having made her walk, I dunno 50 yards, and wasting 2 minutes of her time. Funny thing I probably would have thrown "her," or him a 500 baht not for my inability to tell the differnce if "she" hadn't grown so irrate so quickly. I hear two different stories about ladyboy's here, story one is that they will alll warn you that is what they are, story 2 is watch the fuck out for ladyboys paradaing as genetic women. The one that I grabbed, seemed all woman to me. I have no defense, not to tall, no adams apple, normal voice, effeminate body, the list goes on. Heavy makeup though, realy fucking heavy makeup, maybe that should have been a warning. I just wish that these transgender women, can accept that, most straight males (I don't really care about labels, just trying to hint at a "truth") are not interested in sleeping with a transsexual, I know that I am not. Oh well, yet another mistake, but seeing as I have met just one lovely ladly here, that I will see as long as she cares to upon my subsequent returns, I'm happy! Thanks agian, and I will try my best to be respectful to all here going on, and hope that I can gain respect in kind over the years. Cheers. That is is I don't get banneed in the next 24 hours for some wild ranting in the rant section. Fingers crossed.

[Philip Marlow]

To get a good experience, you need to adjust to where you are....Wow, that's some seriously good advice / info. Thanks for posting it.

[Overlord73]

I really appreciate the beginners guide on the PIMP. I plan to hit it up mid March on my next visit. I know it's important to have a good Mamasan or manager to take care of you at these kinds of establishments. It's been a while since I've hit the strip clubs in Houston but when I used to have a good waitress that you could count on always paid off. Is there any recommended Mamasan or Manager to reach out to when visiting the PIMP? Obviously the key is taking care of them to make sure one gets taken care of by them.


Before I get started: The Pimp in Bangkok is very different from the gentlemens clubs in Pattaya, both in atmosphere and how the girls interact. In Pattaya, clubs tend to be more relaxed, with a focus on immediate intimacy girls are often more forward, and bar fines are openly discussed. The Pimp, on the other hand, operates more like an upscale VIP party lounge, where the focus is on drinking, socializing, and having fun with beautiful hostesses rather than outright negotiations. While flirting, lap-sitting, and light touching are common inside, its not a gogo bar where girls can be taken out easily. Any after-hours arrangements are more discreet and depend on the girls interest, rather than a set bar fine system. The experience at The Pimp is more about creating a high-end, playful party vibe rather than instant gratification.


The Pimp Club is one of Bangkok's most high-end and well-known gentlemen's clubs. It's a mix of a party lounge and a VIP club, where men can enjoy private rooms, premium drinks, and the company of attractive Thai hostesses. The club is known for its lively atmosphere, good music, and a reputation for being one of the top spots for entertainment of this kind in Bangkok.

Getting There.

The Pimp is located in Town in Town, which is slightly outside central Bangkok. Since it's not near a BTS or MRT station, here are the best ways to reach it:

Bolt or Grab Taxi: The most convenient option. Just enter "The Pimp Bangkok" as your destination. Expect to pay 150-300 THB depending on traffic and starting location.

BTS Yellow Line: Get off at Lat Phrao Station, then take a short taxi or Bolt (10-15 minutes).

MRT Blue Line: Get off at Lat Phrao MRT Station and grab a taxi from there.

Airport Rail Link: The closest station is Ramkhamhaeng, but you'll need a taxi from there (15-20 minutes).

Motorbike Taxi: If you're coming from a nearby area, this can be a faster option in traffic.

Tip: Since Town in Town isn't a tourist area, some taxi drivers may try to overcharge. Use Grab or Bolt for a fair price.

Pricing System & Budgeting.

Unlike standard bars or gogo clubs, The Pimp operates on a bottle-service system, meaning you need to buy a bottle of alcohol to get a table and enjoy the company of girls.

Basic Costs:

Entry: Free, but a bottle purchase is required for a table.

Bottles: Start from 4,000-5,000 THB (whiskey, vodka, gin, etc.). Higher-end bottles go up to 30,000+ THB. You can prepay for a membership that can be used over a period of time, which include bottles and bottles can be stored.! You can also buy sets with alcohol and snack foods and some other Thai food and western style snacks.

Mixers: Usually included.

Hostesses:

Per drink: 300-500 THB per lady per drink.

Sitting Fee: 1,500- 2,500 THB per girl to stay with you for the night.

Lady drinks rack up fast, so keep track if you're on a budget.

VIP & Private Rooms:

For more privacy and a better experience:

Small VIP Room: 10,000- 15,000 THB minimum spend.

Large VIP Room: 30,000+ THB minimum spend.

Budget Suggestion:

Minimum for a good experience: 6,000- 10,000 THB.

VIP night with 2-3 girls: 15,000+ THB.

High-roller experience: 30,000+ THB for a private room and top-tier girls.

The Girls & Hostess Quality.

Pimp is known for high-end girls, many of whom are above average in looks compared to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy bars.

Girl Quality & Categories:

1. Regular Hostesses (Standard Tier): Cute, friendly, and flirty. Usually mid-tier looks.

2. Top-tier Girls: Models, influencers, and Instagram-type girls. Expect a higher sitting fee and more expensive drinks.

3. University Girls: Many work part-time to fund their education. Often shy at first but warm up quickly.

Most girls are in their early to mid-20's, with a few younger or older ones mixed in. They dress elegantly, and unlike gogo bars, they aren't dancing on poles it's more about companionship and the vibe. However, there is live music and many of the top tier girls are dancing on stage doing sexy shows.

The Naughty Factor: How Wild Can It Get?

Inside the Club:

The Pimp isn't a gogo bar, but it's not just a drinking club either it's a hybrid.

Some light touching and flirting are common, but the club has an elegant atmosphere.

If you book a VIP room, you'll get more privacy, and things can get wilder inside.

After the Club:

Taking a girl out ("Freelance Option") depends on the girl. Some will, some won't.

Negotiations are not openly done in the club, but girls will hint at their availability.

Usual Costs: Expect 5,000- 10,000+ THB if a girl agrees to go with you after the club.

Final Tips for a Great Experience.

✔ Go with a group if possible it makes the party vibe better and costs can be split.

✔ Pick your bottle wisely some are much better value than others.

✔ Be clear with the mamasan (hostess manager) about what kind of girls you prefer.

✔ Don't overspend too fast lady drinks add up, and so do hostess sitting fees.

✔ Use VIP rooms for more fun better privacy and control over the atmosphere.

✔ Be respectful to the girls many are working to support themselves through school.

✔ If a girl likes you, you'll know the best connections happen naturally.

Final Verdict.

The Pimp is one of Bangkok's best high-end gentlemen's clubs, offering a premium experience, great-looking girls, and a stylish environment. It's not the cheapest place, but if you have the budget and know how to navigate the pricing, it can be a fantastic night out.

Would I recommend it? Yes, if you're looking for a classy but fun night in Bangkok with top-tier hostesses.

How to Dress.

While The Pimp is a fun and lively venue, it also has a high-end and stylish atmosphere, so dressing well will enhance your experience and help you make a better impression.

Dress Code Basics.

The Pimp is not a nightclub with a strict dress code, but it is an upscale gentlemen's club. Aim for a smart-casual to semi-formal look to blend in with the VIP vibe.

What to Wear (Recommended Outfits for Men).

✔ Smart Casual (Minimum Standard).

Polo shirt or button-down shirt.

Dark jeans or well-fitted chinos.

Loafers, clean sneakers, or dress shoes.

✔ Semi-Formal / VIP Look (Best for a Great Impression).

Fitted button-down shirt (long or short sleeve).

Slim-fit trousers or dark-colored jeans.

Blazer or stylish jacket (optional but looks great).

Leather dress shoes, loafers, or stylish sneakers.

✔ High-Roller Look (If You Want to Stand Out).

Designer or well-fitted dress shirt.

Tailored blazer or suit jacket.

High-end jeans or dress pants.

Luxury loafers or dress shoes.

What to Avoid (Don't Wear This).

✔ Flip-flops or sandals Not allowed for men.

✔ Tank tops, gym wear, or sleeveless shirts.

✔ Ripped or baggy jeans, sweatpants, or cargo pants.

✔ Dirty, old sneakers or cheap plastic sandals.

✔ Overly flashy or loud outfits (you want to look classy, not tacky).

Tip: If you're coming from a casual outing and wearing shorts or sandals, bring a change of clothes, or you might be denied entry.

Why Dressing Well Matters.

The girls take you more seriously Well-dressed men attract better attention.

Helps you blend into the VIP environment Looking the part improves your overall experience.

More respect from the staff The club caters to high-end clientele, and looking sharp gets you better service.

Confidence boost Dressing well puts you in the right mindset to enjoy the night.

Final Advice.

If in doubt, dress slightly better than you think you need to. A nice shirt, dark jeans, and good shoes will always work. You don't need a full suit, but looking clean, stylish, and put-together will ensure you have the best experience at The Pimp.

Pictures of some of the girls are attached. I had a great night with one but wont tell which one it was.


To go along with my below newbie guide, here is an older post that will give you a good idea about what to expect here. Enjoy.





Sorry for the late reply. I forgot I started a user blog and I didnt see your question. I will answer in the Bangkok thread for you to compliment this post and the newbie guide I posted below.


I have a girl there who always takes care of me so she knows what girls I like. Before I come in I call her and she arranges the line up for me to choose in line. I choose and then when I arrive, they are there waiting for me. I usually choose two or three. Then narrow it down to my choice at the end of the night. All the girls know this in advance and are cool with it. I choose the one I most vibe with and the other one or two are happy to of had the fun and drinking.

[Nyezhov]

To Werweq:

I'm a one ladydrink guy, max 2, but 90% of my pulls over the past 15 years have been 1.

35 years ago, the girls would go out and keep drinking with you after you barfined them.

Now they rush to get back to the bar and get taken again LOL. So if you want a fresh, uncontaminated one that evening (hopefully she was sleeping and shopping till she went to work), Nana starts dancing at 8;30. The only ones there at 7 pm are the downstairs Ladyboys, the girls themselves don't start rolling in till 7:45, which is a great time to sit and smoke some doobies at the beer bar while the girls start running around.

[EverythingThai]

I really appreciate the beginners guide on the PIMP. I plan to hit it up mid March on my next visit. I know it's important to have a good Mamasan or manager to take care of you at these kinds of establishments. It's been a while since I've hit the strip clubs in Houston but when I used to have a good waitress that you could count on always paid off. Is there any recommended Mamasan or Manager to reach out to when visiting the PIMP? Obviously the key is taking care of them to make sure one gets taken care of by them.No problem. Unfortunately, for me to PM you, you will need a paid subscription. There is a "Click here to buy a Subscription” banner at the top of the forum. I can't post contact details here otherwise it will be deleted. After you sign up, PM me and I will pass the girls number and Line to you. No need to mention where you go it from.

[Interstella]

My Bangkok trip is coming to an end, and it has been god damn awful, and amazing at the same time. All sorts of loss, lessons, gains, relationships, etc. You know, just living life while I still have it left to live.

On to the report: I have fallen prey to the most beautiful woman I could find from the Thermae crew. She actually kinda "saved" me last night as I was rabidly searching for a faceless male individual of whom I wish to have a face to face with, but that's another story, on another part of this forum. She was just like "stop, you're being crazy, And I guess I am. " I just like being around this woman. This will be my third night seeing her. Please, please, please treat her well if you pick her up from Thermae. I won't define her too specifically, and I think she is selective in whom she goes with, but she's an "8" for sure in my book, she instantly stands out in Thermae as one of the most beautiful women there, and she dresses like a lady, acts like a lady, etc. I suppose, at somepoint, some of us are going to be eskimo brothers, and well, that's just life. F it, she's got long dark hair, perfectly straightened. She wears black night gowns the times I have see her in Thermae. She is slender, with natural, small boobs that fit her frame perfectly. She has light-medium dark nipples, and just a perfect looking shaved pussy. Medium-light dark skin, and well, just a normal height for a woman in smallish heel's, could be 5'2" could be 5'6", I didn't break out my measuring tape.

The second night I saw her, last night, I suppose I was more comfortable with her this time, we spent a few hours together first drinking and laughing. I pounded the shit out of this sweet woman. I'm not one of these guys who talks big talk about sexual prowess, but the stars aligned that night, my mental chemicals were all firing perfectly, and it was an intense and perfect session that moved the bed over 3 feet to the right by the time we were done. Oh, the things money can buy.

The only negative to this woman is that she is super concerned about her own health and well being, because she's a smart cookie. So, covered blowjobs, covered sex, no DFK, etc. Though I'm hoping she'll warm up a bit more to me tonight! So, her ask was 4 K at Thermae, for her version of ST, which god damn, is a fucking steal in my opinion, and she's not a "clock watcher" she literally told me when I enquired about her services "roughly an hour to two hours. " Which by her standards, I believe means enough time to shower together, do all the fucking, shower again, chit chat, then bye bye. I was lucky enough to take her out afterwards the first night until it was time for us to part ways and go to sleep. As an aside, I don't take long to have sex. Sometimes it takes longer and I almost find it annoying, like I just want to cum and am starting to get tired of pumping away. While I know some gents pride themselves on their prowess to pound for 30 minutes straight, more power to you, I'm a 3-8 minute sort of guy. So ST is really all I am interested in anyway. This woman will really take care of you, and she's just lovely and speaks good English, and ugh, I am so glad I came to Bangkok, despite whatever tragedies and humiliations and defeats I have suffered during my time here. I will be coming back every year, that's for damn sure.

I will probably waltz through Thermae just one last time tonight, and I mean, it's always just a matter of time when you really want to find someone, there's always a trace, there's always a method. Might take me a few years, but I will find this "woman" at some point for a face to face! I feel like I've got one of those "faces," you know, that so easy to spot, the dead stair, the peacock neck, the towering height. Probably why I'm getting overquoted on Soi 4, but such is life. It's been a blast.

[Interstella]

Seems like you are using this forum for your therapy.

RTFF and you will know what you did wrong!! Very much possible that you are making all these encounters (as lot of members see your inaccuracies) or you have some real issues (as you said yourself).

In short keep your shit together. This ain't your therapy session.I agree, and will try to conduct myself more appropriately. I got nothing else.

[Interstella]

Seems like you are using this forum for your therapy.

RTFF and you will know what you did wrong!! Very much possible that you are making all these encounters (as lot of members see your inaccuracies) or you have some real issues (as you said yourself).

In short keep your shit together. This ain't your therapy session.What inaccuracies? As far as my reports go, I stand behind what I say, maybe I transposed a thing here or there. Like fore example negotiating BBFS before entering a hotel or after, but I mean, like memories aren't perfect. I will not be accused of providing inaccurate info as to my reports. Happy to fact check whatever, and if I fucked up in my recounting of something, um well, that's exactly the nature of being a human being, and also why "testimony" in a court of law is questionable as to be even allowed as evidence. Testimony is all we got though. Seriously, hit me with some inaccuracies, and I'll shoot them down one by one. God damn, I just can't win with you all. I'm trying here, so please, how have I been inaccurate?

I will keep my shit together, but why don't you back up that check your ass just wrote?

[TheNull1]

Ok you guys have offered info so now its my turn. This is my first time even looking so I wanted to start out with something basic.

Wood Bar was my first outing. Obviously some girls tried to pull me in but I caught eyes with a girl in the back who honestly was the only one to my liking. Petite spinner, guessing in her 30's but lots of make-up so maybe older. Paid 1000 up front. She was patient with me not knowing what to do. Had me undress then cleaned me up in the sink. Before she got started I wanted a make out session and she was rather eager for that. Soon she was on my lap. Lots of kissing, lots of touching. Oral skills were pretty good and I had been so busy leading up to the trip I didn't last too long. She soon asked if I wanted another shot. After some more kissing she went back down though after having just popped I held out until our time was up. Whole time she was rather enthusiastic. I think she said her name was Play but I won't ever be sure on names. I tipped an extra 100 because she probably could have called it after one shot. Personal complaint though, her make-up had glitter and it ended up all over me thanks to all the foreplay.

Most recent was hitting Crazy House, still on the low hanging fruit. I got there rather early, 7 or 8. Only 3 dancers on stage and only 1 was really dancing. Selection wasn't bad, but only one girl really caught my eye. I got there just as they were swapping over, easily half a dozen girls going up but if you ask me the quality took a hit. The best were still the same ballpark and not many of those. I flagged over the one I was looking at. She sat down, 400 for the lady drink and 20 for the girl who brought it out. Now I'm not great at small talk, its why I'm paying instead of hitting the clubs, so chemistry wasn't great but she wasn't shy about rubbing me as we sat. Said she could be taken out, it was not the smoothest communication. I went with ST to a nearby room. 3700 for the girl and barfine. Now here is where my lack of communication skills hurt, she walked me to the ST rooms, and seemed shocked when I dropped 450 for the room. I don't know if she was going to cover it, or part of it, but betting I made a mistake there.

I got undressed while she showered. She was more into kissing now that we were in the room. Played with her breasts as I wanted to take my time to avoid popping too quick. I brought a condom because I'm trying to be responsible here. She sucked me off for a bit then climbed atop. We went at it for a while, multiple positions. Seemed into it, good moaning but nothing over the top. Finished in mish. I wasn't paying attention to time so unsure how long it was but never got the sense she was in a hurry. Walked her back to Crazy House and made my way back. LT was 4000 something, 4500 I think. Didn't want to drag her all the way back and chemistry wasn't there enough I think all night would have been worthwhile. Maybe I should have anyways since the room was pretty close to that amount anyways. Oh well it was my first ever pull so I think a few mistakes are allowed.

Name I believe was Nok, said she was 30 from up north.

I might try one of the massage parlors tomorrow. Something different each day. If anyone has suggestions for those, ideally one I can just walk in and select a girl. Also might try a different gogo bar. I admit I was a bit worried about picking a ladyboy bar by mistake and end up with some awkwardness.

[Interstella]

To Werweq:

I'm a one ladydrink guy, max 2, but 90% of my pulls over the past 15 years have been 1.

35 years ago, the girls would go out and keep drinking with you after you barfined them.

Now they rush to get back to the bar and get taken again LOL. So if you want a fresh, uncontaminated one that evening (hopefully she was sleeping and shopping till she went to work), Nana starts dancing at 8;30. The only ones there at 7 pm are the downstairs Ladyboys, the girls themselves don't start rolling in till 7:45, which is a great time to sit and smoke some doobies at the beer bar while the girls start running around.Hey, so it's time for me to make my exit, looks like this is just not working out, and the last thing I want to do is be a nuisance on this forum. Best of luck in all your future endeavors gentlemen! Sincerley, Mr. Interstella. Or Mr. Mental Breakdown, it's a gut wrenching truth to throw out there, but the best way for me to "keep my shit together" is to maybe not fuck around on this forum, because the vitriol and high, and I got pulled into it like a chump. Best of luck, and thanks to those who tired to steer me away from that careening car wreck of an embarrasing chapter in my life. I know you all are just strangers to me, but I wish you all good luck, and all the best.

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[Nyezhov]

But for some reason sloppy tongue kissing a girl in a BJ bar does not make my personal fetish list.

Just sayin.

[Detwing1]

Ok you guys have offered info so now its my turn. This is my first time even looking so I wanted to start out with something basic.

Wood Bar was my first outing. Obviously some girls tried to pull me in but I caught eyes with a girl in the back who honestly was the only one to my liking. Petite spinner, guessing in her 30's but lots of make-up so maybe older. Paid 1000 up front. She was patient with me not knowing what to do. Had me undress then cleaned me up in the sink. Before she got started I wanted a make out session and she was rather eager for that. Soon she was on my lap. Lots of kissing, Good report, Hopefully you were her first customer of the day.

I went there once. Service was great, but the providers were definitely not stunners.

[Axel Heyst]

Hey, so it's time for me to make my exit, looks like this is just not working out, and the last thing I want to do is be a nuisance on this forum. Best of luck in all your future endeavors gentlemen! Sincerley, Mr. Interstella. Or Mr. Mental Breakdown, it's a gut wrenching truth to throw out there, but the best way for me to "keep my shit together" is to maybe not fuck around on this forum, because the vitriol and high, and I got pulled into it like a chump. Hey Interstella, do what you like, but I would suggest that in the future you do not let the mob squad get to you. The vast majority of BKK contributors are fellow sportsmen and are not interested in jumping all over you for what you post, but we will occasionally make constructive criticisms. The bottom line is; enjoy your trips and especially the girls wherever you go.

A. H.

[BroComplex]

Ok you guys have offered info so now its my turn. This is my first time even looking so I wanted to start out with something basic.

Wood Bar was my first outing. Obviously some girls tried to pull me in but I caught eyes with a girl in the back who honestly was the only one to my liking. Petite spinner, guessing in her 30's but lots of make-up so maybe older. Paid 1000 up front. She was patient with me not knowing what to do. Had me undress then cleaned me up in the sink. Before she got started I wanted a make out session and she was rather eager for that. Soon she was on my lap. Lots of kissing, lots of touching. Oral skills were pretty good and I had been so busy leading up to the trip I didn't last too long. She soon asked if I wanted another shot. After some more kissing she went back down though after having just popped I held out until our time was up. Whole time she was rather enthusiastic. I think she said her name was Play but I won't ever be sure on names. I tipped an extra 100 because she probably could have called it after one shot. Personal complaint though, her make-up had glitter and it ended up all over me thanks to all the foreplay.

Most recent was hitting Crazy House, still on the low hanging fruit. I got there rather early, 7 or 8. Only 3 dancers on stage and only 1 was really dancing. Selection wasn't bad, but only one girl really caught my eye. I got there just as they were swapping over, easily half a dozen girls going up but if you ask me the quality took a hit. The best were still the same ballpark and not many of those. I flagged over the one I was looking at. She sat down, 400 for the lady drink and 20 for the girl who brought it out. Now I'm not great at small talk, its why I'm paying instead of hitting the clubs, so chemistry wasn't great but she wasn't shy about rubbing me as we sat. Said she could be taken out, it was not the smoothest communication. I went with ST to a nearby room. 3700 for the girl and barfine. Now here is where my lack of communication skills hurt, she walked me to the ST rooms, and seemed shocked when I dropped 450 for the room. I don't know if she was going to cover it, or part of it, but betting I made a mistake there.

I got undressed while she showered. She was more into kissing now that we were in the room. Played with her breasts as I wanted to take my time to avoid popping too quick. I brought a condom because I'm trying to be responsible here. She sucked me off for a bit then climbed atop. We went at it for a while, multiple positions. Seemed into it, good moaning but nothing over the top. Finished in mish. I wasn't paying attention to time so unsure how long it was but never got the sense she was in a hurry. Walked her back to Crazy House and made my way back. LT was 4000 something, 4500 I think. Didn't want to drag her all the way back and chemistry wasn't there enough I think all night would have been worthwhile. Maybe I should have anyways since the room was pretty close to that amount anyways. Oh well it was my first ever pull so I think a few mistakes are allowed.

Name I believe was Nok, said she was 30 from up north.

I might try one of the massage parlors tomorrow. Something different each day. If anyone has suggestions for those, ideally one I can just walk in and select a girl. Also might try a different gogo bar. I admit I was a bit worried about picking a ladyboy bar by mistake and end up with some awkwardness.Be.

Wood bar is 1000 now? Why pay that much when 7th heaven is 200 baht more? And stop wasting your time with gogo bars you paid at least 5 k after counting the lady drinks to fuck a 30 years old girl when you could have paid less than 2 k to have a fit, good looking early 20's girl. Go to mango massage on soi 24 the short time is 1700 baht I usually tip the girl the 300 change. You can have two hours two rounds in the jacuzy room and still pay less than 4000 baht. You can have two girls for an hour and still pay less than the 5 k you paid to 30 years old dancer.

[HorseTrader]

Be.

Wood bar is 1000 now? Why pay that much when 7th heaven is 200 baht more? And stop wasting your time with gogo bars you paid at least 5 k after counting the lady drinks to fuck a 30 years old girl when you could have paid less than 2 k to have a fit, good looking early 20's girl. Go to mango massage on soi 24 the short time is 1700 baht I usually tip the girl the 300 change. You can have two hours two rounds in the jacuzy room and still pay less than 4000 baht. You can have two girls for an hour and still pay less than the 5 k you paid to 30 years old dancer.You don't leave much margin for personal taste and personal situation. For example, the distance between Wood and 7-Heaven is far enough to be a consideration to me, though I admit that Wood hasn't had a doable girl for a long time. I've been with Soi 24 girls many times, but I consistently have more fun with my bar fines in my hotel from Nana Plaza. I now only go to Soi 24 (and nearby) when I'm looking for an afternoon session. When you are as old as me, the session experience is far more important than saving a few baht.

[OzzieSuds]

You don't leave much margin for personal taste and personal situation. For example, the distance between Wood and 7-Heaven is far enough to be a consideration to me, though I admit that Wood hasn't had a doable girl for a long time. I've been with Soi 24 girls many times, but I consistently have more fun with my bar fines in my hotel from Nana Plaza. I now only go to Soi 24 (and nearby) when I'm looking for an afternoon session. When you are as old as me, the session experience is far more important than saving a few baht.I agree. The massage joints are fine for a quick boomboom but I prefer the ambience and comfort of a nice hotel. Must admit I have not tried the massage outcall because I found plenty on TF.

[TheNull1]

I will give soi 24 a look. Like I said I did want to try a massage place for a short time. This is my first trip so I'm seeing what's on offer.

Speaking of I thought to try the sideline options for some incall and spoiler so far the worst experience. I scheduled a 40 minute session and took a taxi to the hotel to meet Celine through 141 agency. Pictures were not accurate at all but I wasn't shocked by that and was paying 1400 baht so whatever. We got washed up. She spent a little time with oral then put on the rubber for the main event. One thing that bothered me up front was not kissing despite that being offered on her profile. Very by the motions experience but the real problem was that she quite literally tapped out after about 15 minutes. Again, paid for 40. She tried jerking me off but that rarely gets me off at the best of times let alone when its this mechanical. After a few minutes I told her to stop. Cooled off for a few minutes then got cleaned up and left with time to spare. I didn't even get off and makes me hesitant to try another freelance if that's the kind of service I can expect. The BJ at Wood was a better experience than that, and she went to time.

[TheNull1]

I'd like to get atleast one long time overnight stay before my trip ends. What are my best options? Should I roam the streets and hope to get lucky? My hotel is a few kilometers from down town right off the airport line. I don't know what time the freelancers tend to come out but haven't spotted any in my immediate area. My guess is if its long time a taxi ride won't matter much to them though.

I have TF but unsure how much I can trust the pictures on there. If someone has advice on that I'd appreciate it.

Or should I just aim for take out at a gogo bar or something? My goal for this is quality so willing to pay more if I am getting a good return.

[Larbmoo555]

I'd like to get atleast one long time overnight stay before my trip ends. What are my best options? Should I roam the streets and hope to get lucky? My hotel is a few kilometers from down town right off the airport line. I don't know what time the freelancers tend to come out but haven't spotted any in my immediate area. My guess is if its long time a taxi ride won't matter much to them though.

I have TF but unsure how much I can trust the pictures on there. If someone has advice on that I'd appreciate it.

Or should I just aim for take out at a gogo bar or something? My goal for this is quality so willing to pay more if I am getting a good return.For a lot of girls these days "long time" means until like 5 am, so be sure to clarify it with the girl if you are actually looking to sleep together until morning + wake up to fuck again. I almost never do long time but I do like to hit Gogos and the area in front of Thermae at around 2-3 am (Thermae closes at 2 am but girls will stand outside for a bit). At that point girls are desperate and offering LT for ST rates or close to it, in fact I usually pay ST and girls want to sleep over after the deed. I kick them out, I prefer to sleep alone LOL.

By the way, about your previous post, that's not the typical experience for freelancers, but it is the typical experience for agencies. Escort agencies are generally horrible in Bangkok, don't even bother. The vast majority of pictures and reviews are fake, and if you are only here 1-2 weeks, it's a waste of time trying to find the ones that aren't. Sites like fiwfans (RIP) are best for people who live here and have the time to filter through everything. Better to just go out and find the girls yourself.

[WanderingWhere]

1st time poster here, just to give an account of my adventures in the big city. Arrived on Sat night after an 11 hour flight.

Headed to Cowboy to check out the scene, with my UK travel companion also a Brit in our mid 50's. After spectating at a few of the venues we ended up in Crazy House where the standard of the girls was high imo. The place was busy, and the stage full of lots of naked girls.

Headed upstairs for some seating, where we were happy to be joined by 2 lovely companions. 1 lady drink later I'm negotiating a price, we settled on 3500 for ST, and a BF of 700. It was busy mid evening so I was happy to to pay that on my first night and was horny as well with all the rubbing etc. My 28 yr old companion and I headed to another venue on Cowboy, it was called Beach something. Anyway the room here was 400 b but in walking in the stage was full of young girls in various states of undress so I made a mental note to revisit.

The sex was good, she was experienced and had a great tidy figure, no body fat, skinny legs just my type. She was high giving a lot of the girls in the venue so she must have been a familiar face. This made me laugh. After Crazy we headed across to Soi22. Loads of interesting massage venues and girly bars. After drinking far too much I was copping off with a 22 yr old, not great in the looks dept, but we were all over each other with the hands. She wanted 2500 b to stay the night, but I knew after the long flight and drinking it would be a morning shag. Anyhow the bar owner wanted 900 b for the bar fine which I thought was crazy, and that the bar had already passed its 2 am close time. I declined altogether, we swapped numbers and messaged, but due to unfolding events I never had the chance to complete our liaison.

Our condo was on Soi15, perfect location for the venues.

Sunday arrived and I was keen to visit secret kiss, so we rocked up about 4 pm. Chose a lovely Japanese looking girl for FS, the price was only 2400 b, bargain. Secret kiss was busy, there was a constant stream of customers, the word was clearly out on this place. After finishing my experience and waiting for my travel buddy, an Indian fella walked in wanting FS but having the cheek to ask for a discount, he got declined obviously. The cheek I thought, the girls that I saw are all. Lovely quality, pale skinned and tidy figures, just pay the price you cheapskate.

Later on Sunday night c9 pm, called into Thermea, mainly for a recce for later on. Instantly struck by the amount and quality of the girls we both agreed the night was still young and many other places to. See still on our 1st trip.

Anyhow took a walk up both Soi 7 and 7/1. These places were busy too, lots of manhandling and pulling from the ladies, which we took in good spirits with a smile on our faces, but we knew we were heading to Nana.

Arrived Nana and I must say I was disappointed after the experience on Cowboy the night before. The venues seemed a lot more sanitised and not as seedy, if that makes sense. Some stunners in Billboard but nothing that inspired me to have a take out. We headed out of NP and took up. Drimking in Hillary, only to be invaded by wandering cockroaches, you must of had 4 on me, maybe if was my cologne, LOL.

Ready for some more action finally we checked out the FL scene on Soi4. Loads of options here, girls of many nationalities. We took a couple of 22 yr old Viets back in a tub tub, mine was a 9/10 easily. The experience turned a bit sour in the condo however over price.

Despite originally agreeing 3000 b she and her mate had upped this to 4000 b, she was lifting up her dress no pants on, showing her beautiful body. What do I do? Shamefully we agreed on the 4 k, wrong I know but it was too late to head out again, and it was right there at arms reach.

The sex wasn't great, probably too much drinking on my part and the earlier sex that afternoon, she did taste fantastic tho. And she had those cute pointless glasses that the young Viets wear, which she pointedly refused to take off, ha ha.

Monday, a new day, what to next. I wanted to a bit left field tonight, so after sitting outside country road pub, watching the rats scuttle about I persuaded my companion to head to T-ded99. Full credit to this site, in particular Everything thai for the inspiration!. It was a trip worth taking. The grab taxi was only 170 b, bargain. On walking in we were greeted by a busy scene, the side rooms were all taken and it looked looked the Asian customers were partying hard judging by all the bottles and girls hanging around. I made of point of speaking to the security guy on walking in, explaining we only spoke English, no problem he said.

He sat us down on an end aisle seat, I could see we were the only westerners here, apart from I gentleman sat on our aisle at the opposite. End. He clearly spoke Thai as he was conversing with his company and seemed to know the massive security guy who joined his table for a chat.

Anyhow, we had great company that night, I had a 26 yr old tiny young thing, 5 foot. She seemed a bit cold at first but we bought food, drinks and after chatting and making jokes she was great fun. Google translate had to be used, but I didn't find this a big problem, a quick shout in your phone (this place is loud) and the banter flows. We were asked constantly for lap. Dances by other young things, but call me old fashioned this seemed a bit rude in front of 'our girls'. Anyhow true enough the ST FS option is 2500 b over the road, I was even sold some condoms by the staff in Tded beforehand. The food was good quality, and even with a bit of tipping the price was less than you'd pay for BF / LDs in other gogos.

The sex was good, the hotel was busy again, we had to wait 10 mins for our room, cue more banter and dry humour with my girl on Google translate. When I come back to BKK I will revisit here without hesitation.

Final day in Dodge, what do we do? We were both quite jaded by this time, lots of drinking and late nights were catching up. There was only 1 thing for it. Nuru massage.

I spent about 20. Minutes checking out the rotas for the countless venues, we went to BKK vice. What a great venue this is too imo. Clean, efficiently run and most importantly lots of choice. It was about 6 pm and we had the full parade lined up in front of us. I chose another tiny young thing, 1 HR nuru for 3000 b. What happened next was 1 of the best experiences for paid service. Unbelievably sensual and erotic, my provider was perfect, non of the annoying grunts and false moans you sometimes get. If you've not yet tried a Nuru, I so go for it. She was more than happy to. Give a proper back massage too, and I was more. Than happy to tip. Afterwards for a wonderful time. Walking out with big smiles on our faces, we knew we were done, so took it easy by heading up. To soi7, chatting with some girls. There, before soi11 Hillarys. Lots. Of FLs here 2, but honestly we were done. 5 girls on 4 days is plenty for me at my age! The night finished very pleasantly by simply sitting and chatting with a pair of mid 20 office girls, no thoughts on snagging, just old fashioned banter and good company.

Hope my tale is of interest to you all. I'm currently in AoNang writing this on my phone, hence the odd grammar mistake. Took a lovely Japanese girl put from one of the RCA bars last night, but that's a tale for another time.

Adios amigos.

[WanderingWhere]

1st time poster here, just to give an account of my adventures in the big city. Arrived on Sat night after an 11 hour flight.

Headed to Cowboy to check out the scene, with my UK travel companion also a Brit in our mid 50's. After spectating at a few of the venues we ended up in Crazy House where the standard of the girls was high imo. The place was busy, and the stage full of lots of naked girls.

Headed upstairs for some seating, where we were happy to be joined by 2 lovely companions. 1 lady drink later I'm negotiating a price, we settled on 3500 for ST, and a BF of 700. It was busy mid evening so I was happy to to pay that on my first night and was horny as well with all the rubbing etc. My 28 yr old companion and I headed to another venue on Cowboy, it was called Beach something. Anyway the room here was 400 be but in walking in the stage was full of young girls in various states of undress so I made a mental note to revisit.

The sex was good, she was experienced and had a great tidy figure, no body fat, skinny legs just my type. She was high fivng a lot of the girls in the venue so she must have been a familiar face. This made me laugh. After Crazy we headed across to Soi22. Loads of interesting massage venues and girly bars, we were in one if the tiny sois off the main road. After drinking far too much I was copping off with a 22 yr old, not great in the looks dept, but we were all over each other with the hands. She wanted 2500 be to stay the night, but I knew after the long flight and drinking it would be a morning shag. Anyhow the bar owner wanted 900 be for the bar fine which I thought was crazy, and that the bar had already passed its 2 am close time. I declined altogether, we swapped numbers and messaged, but due to unfolding events I never had the chance to complete our liaison.

Our condo was on Soi15, perfect location for the venues.

Sunday arrived and I was keen to visit secret kiss, so we rocked up about 4 pm. Chose a lovely Japanese looking girl for FS, the price was only 2400 be, bargain. Secret kiss was busy, there was a constant stream of customers, the word was clearly out on this place. After finishing my experience and waiting for my travel buddy, an Indian fella walked in wanting FS but having the cheek to ask for a discount, he got declined obviously. The cheek I thought, the girls that I saw areall lovely quality, pale skinned and tidy figures, just pay the price you cheapskate!

Later on Sunday night c9 pm, called into Thermae, mainly for a recce for later on. Instantly struck by the amount and quality of the girls we both agreed the night was still young and many other places to.

See, still on our 1st trip.

Anyhow took a walk up both Soi 7 and 7/1. These places were busy too, lots of manhandling and pulling from the ladies, which we took in good spirits with a smile on our faces, but we knew we were heading to Nana.

Arrived Nana and I must say I was disappointed after the experience on Cowboy the night before. The venues seemed a lot more sanitised and not as seedy, if that makes sense. Some stunners in Billboard but nothing that inspired me to have a take out. We headed out of NP and took up drinking in Hillary, only to be invaded by wandering cockroaches, I must of had 4 on me, maybe it was my cologne, LOL.

Ready for some more action finally we checked out the FL scene on Soi4. Loads of options here, girls of many nationalities. We took a couple of 22 yr old Viets back in a tuk tuk, mine was a 9/10 easily. The experience turned a bit sour in the condo however over price.

Despite originally agreeing 3000 be she and her mate had upped this to 4000 be, she was lifting up her dress no pants on, showing her beautiful body. What do I do? Shamefully we agreed on the 4 k, wrong I know but it was too late to head out again, and it was right there at arms reach.

The sex wasn't great, probably too much drinking on my part and the earlier sex that afternoon, she did taste fantastic tho. And she had those cute pointless glasses that the young Viets wear, which she pointedly refused to take off, ha ha.

Monday, a new day, what to next. I wanted to go a bit left field tonight, so after sitting outside country road pub, watching the rats scuttle about and breathing in the stench, I persuaded my companion to head to T-ded99. Full credit to this site, in particular Everything thai for the inspiration!. It was a trip worth taking. The grab taxi was only 170 be, bargain. On walking in we were greeted by a busy scene, the side rooms were all taken and it looked looked the Asian customers were partying hard judging by all the bottles and girls hanging around. I made of point.

Of speaking to the security guy on walking in, explaining we only spoke English, no problem he said.

He sat us down on an end aisle seat, I could see we were the only westerners here, apart from 1 gentleman sat on our aisle at the opposite. End. He clearly spoke Thai as he was conversing with his company and seemed to know the massive security guy who joined his table for a chat. ET if this is you, sorry for not saying Hi.

Anyhow, we had great company that night, I had a 26 yr old tiny young thing, 5 foot. She seemed a bit cold at first but we bought food, drinks and after chatting and making jokes she was great fun. Google translate had to be used, but I didn't find this a big problem, a quick shout in your phone (this place is loud) and the banter flows. We were asked constantly for lap. Dances by other young things, but call me old fashioned this seemed a bit rude in front of 'our girls'. Anyhow true enough the ST FS option is 2500 be over the road, I was even sold some condoms by the staff in Tded beforehand. The food was good quality, and even with a bit of tipping the price was less than you'd pay for BF / LDs in other gogos.

The sex was good, the hotel was busy again, we had to wait 10 minutes for our room, cue more banter and dry humour with my girl on Google translate. When I come back to BKK I will revisit here without hesitation.

Final day in Dodge, what do we do? We were both quite jaded by this time, lots of drinking and late nights were catching up. There was only 1 thing for it. Nuru massage.

I spent about 20. Minutes checking out the rotas for the countless venues, we went to BKK vice. What a great venue this is too imo. Clean, efficiently run and most importantly lots of choice. It was about 6 pm and we had the full parade lined up in front of us. I chose another tiny young thing, 1 HR nuru for 3000 be. What happened next was 1 of the best experiences for paid service. Unbelievably sensual and erotic, my provider was perfect, non of the annoying grunts and false moans you sometimes get. If you've not yet tried a Nuru, I say go for it. She was more than happy to. Give a proper back massage too, and I was more. Than happy to tip. Afterwards for a wonderful time. Walking out with big smiles on our faces, we knew we were done, so took it easy by heading up. To soi7, chatting with some girls. There, before soi11 Hillarys. Lots. Of FLs and approaches here, but honestly we were done. 5 girls on 4 days is plenty for me at my age! The night finished very pleasantly by simply sitting and chatting with a pair of mid 20 office girls, no thoughts on snagging, just old fashioned banter and good company.

Hope my tale is of interest to you all. I'm currently in AoNang writing this on my phone, hence the odd grammar mistake. Took a lovely Japanese girl put from one of the RCA bars last night, but that's a tale for another time.

Adios amigos.

[PgReal]

I'd like to get atleast one long time overnight stay before my trip ends. What are my best options? Should I roam the streets and hope to get lucky? My hotel is a few kilometers from down town right off the airport line. I don't know what time the freelancers tend to come out but haven't spotted any in my immediate area. My guess is if its long time a taxi ride won't matter much to them though.

I have TF but unsure how much I can trust the pictures on there. If someone has advice on that I'd appreciate it.

Or should I just aim for take out at a gogo bar or something? My goal for this is quality so willing to pay more if I am getting a good return.Just go for it mate, if you do nothing you'll regret if for a long time (if you excuse the pun) when your trip is over, you can't get the time back. I've wasted many a short trip to BKK.

If you are out of town a bit or not close to the main 'Red light' areas then street walkers is probably going to be the least successful route. You could waste a lot of time looking and end up with nothing or worse a LB!

TF is my favourite app but just remember it's not a 'sex' app so not all girls are Freelancers on it. I find most of them are pretty close to their pics and you can always do a short video call first.

Also just have an "exit" strategy ready if you don't like the girl or get fed up after an hour or two (they usually start annoying me with their moaning and whinging), I usually just say my boss has requested I go to meet him early so I need to get up extra early so I need sleep. Throw them a tip etc.

If you are willing to pay a bit of a premium and time is of the essence, I'd just do an outcall from a reliable agency such as Bangkok golden escorts or Bodybliss. Many of the massage shops do outcall too, and again it's fairly reliable when it comes to the girl matching the photos, Pretty massage shop and Paradise are just two of many that do Outcalls.

Have fun while it lasts!!

[TiredOf]

You can use Smooci. Idk why not many consider using it here. But I always use it, when I am here for work and not staying near Sukhumvit.

Many girls are there with 3 k baht for 2 hrs, 2 shots. Which is anyways better than Thermae pickup. If you need premium, can search for premium girls.

If you need recommendation, can try Gina. Absolutely stunning beautiful girl with top notch service. Always take her once whenever I visit.


I'd like to get atleast one long time overnight stay before my trip ends. What are my best options? Should I roam the streets and hope to get lucky? My hotel is a few kilometers from down town right off the airport line. I don't know what time the freelancers tend to come out but haven't spotted any in my immediate area. My guess is if its long time a taxi ride won't matter much to them though.

I have TF but unsure how much I can trust the pictures on there. If someone has advice on that I'd appreciate it.

Or should I just aim for take out at a gogo bar or something? My goal for this is quality so willing to pay more if I am getting a good return.

[Grebe925]

I'd like to get atleast one long time overnight stay before my trip ends. What are my best options? Should I roam the streets and hope to get lucky? My hotel is a few kilometers from down town right off the airport line. I don't know what time the freelancers tend to come out but haven't spotted any in my immediate area. My guess is if its long time a taxi ride won't matter much to them though.

I have TF but unsure how much I can trust the pictures on there. If someone has advice on that I'd appreciate it.

Or should I just aim for take out at a gogo bar or something? My goal for this is quality so willing to pay more if I am getting a good return.I stayed at the Grand Hyatt Erawan in Sukhumvit once and visited their bar just below the ground floor (Gaston)? There is live music / dancing with girls milling around looking to hook up. Landed a model quality girl for the night & took her up to my room. She was very accommodating & un-rushed though a bit of a fish in bed but more than made up for it with a stunning body and of course face. This was some time ago. There are taxis in the lobby late at night too. You could try your luck there. I'm sure there many such places that others may know.

[EverythingThai]

1st time poster here, just to give an account of my adventures in the big city. Arrived on Sat night after an 11 hour flight.

Headed to Cowboy to check out the scene, with my UK travel companion also a Brit in our mid 50's. After spectating at a few of the venues we ended up in Crazy House where the standard of the girls was high imo. The place was busy, and the stage full of lots of naked girls.

Headed upstairs for some seating, where we were happy to be joined by 2 lovely companions. 1 lady drink later I'm negotiating a price, we settled on 3500 for ST, and a BF of 700. It was busy mid evening so I was happy to to pay that on my first night and was horny as well with all the rubbing etc. My 28 yr old companion and I headed to another venue on Cowboy, it was called Beach something..Yes that was me there on Monday night. Glad you had a great time. Kuhn Nut, the large security guy brought me a girl who on the job first night. It was a bit disappointing in the hotel, as she was relying on me to take charge. That night I was drunk and was missing my regular from there that normally jumps my bones before I can even get my clothes off and showered.

[Paolo99]

You can use Smooci. Idk why not many consider using it here. But I always use it, when I am here for work and not staying near Sukhumvit.

Many girls are there with 3 k baht for 2 hrs, 2 shots. Which is anyways better than Thermae pickup. If you need premium, can search for premium girls.Don't forget to add 15 years and 15 kilos to every profile on Smooci.

And have fun filtering all the postop ladyboys trying to snake themselves in the women's section now that they are all "independent".

[Koryu]

Hey guys,

I went to thermae tonight and this was my second time going. I approached few girls and I had like 3 or 4 say "no" to me. Then the few that did reply, wanted 3000-5000 bt.

I don't know if this was because I didn't look good or what. I was dressed in sneakers, shirt, and jeans so not sloppy tourist. I felt I was being given inflated prices. Have any of you experienced this? It just kinda annoyed me because I don't think I"m that fugly to be warranted such negative responses LOL.

To me the situation also felt kinda strange because some people pay for sex to bypass the whole attracting the girl scenario. But here it was like you're trying to attract, and still have to pay.

In any case, I ended up not going with any. Many others have had good experiences, as per the previous reports, this was just my experience.

Smooci.

I have used this site before and as someone pointed out, the age and weight needs to be adjusted for. The girl that came to me was nice, but her pictures made her look a LOT younger. Her body was okay, but just the difference in face (what I was expecting vs what I got) was a bit annoying. I guess kinda felt cheated? LOL but it's no surprise; often these online providers photoshop tf out of the pictures.

This site is efficient but you may not always get what you see on the website. There's also a 1000 bhat cancel fee; so if the girl shows up and you no likey, you still pay. Something to keep in mind, if you're considering using this site.

Are there any alternative similar websites being used in Bangkok? And. Any that realistic pics? LOL maybe I'm asking too much.

[TiredOf]

Not true for "every" profile. But yes, for most, at least the year part.

All are now listed as Independent because there was some LE action last year, so now all escort agencies are to be so-called banned. So they must be listed as Indie, but obv managed by same agencies.

I don't know about you, but it never happened with me, LB posing as Girl.

But that might also be because I never go with any recently listed ones. Usually, I go with 4. 9+ ratings and with recent + high reviews. Also reading recent reviews helps to some extent. Not all reviews can be fake.


Anyways, photoshop or age/weight falsifying, is case with all escort agencies, heck! even MPs who share lineup via Line. But all I am saying is, if there is no other option or when you cant explore outside, it can be a good option. Otherwise I myself too prefer picking out girls from outside, if I can.


Don't forget to add 15 years and 15 kilos to every profile on Smooci.

And have fun filtering all the postop ladyboys trying to snake themselves in the women's section now that they are all "independent".

[Lcale1982]

Hey guys,

I went to thermae tonight and this was my second time going. I approached few girls and I had like 3 or 4 say "no" to me. Then the few that did reply, wanted 3000-5000 bt.

I don't know if this was because I didn't look good or what. I was dressed in sneakers, shirt, and jeans so not sloppy tourist. I felt I was being given inflated prices. Have any of you experienced this? It just kinda annoyed me because I don't think I"m that fugly to be warranted such negative responses LOL.

To me the situation also felt kinda strange because some people pay for sex to bypass the whole attracting the girl scenario. But here it was like you're trying to attract, and still have to pay.

In any case, I ended up not going with any. Many others have had good experiences, as per the previous reports, this was just my experience.
...I'm guessing you're not asian so that could be a big factor. Luckily I'm asian and majority will quite the regular 3 k but did get a few higher quotes of 3-5 which I just passed on. Not sure if you requested BBBJ, CIM and other services could also make them not want to go with you. Yea it's not for everyone. Luckily plenty of other venues for you to choose from.

[WanderingWhere]

Yes that was me there on Monday night. Glad you had a great time. Kuhn Nut, the large security guy brought me a girl who on the job first night. It was a bit disappointing in the hotel, as she was relying on me to take charge. That night I was drunk and was missing my regular from there that normally jumps my bones before I can even get my clothes off and showered.Ah, do you know what, I thought it was! Sorry about your 1st timer, I dare say you'll make up for it soon.

Thanks for the heads up on this place. It reminded me of an off the beaten track venue I visited back in the very early 90's on the outside of Prague. Lots of girls, totally different to the normal tourist scene, but still made to feel welcome.

Sorry for all the typos too, I realise my post is a hard read.

Heading to Patong now for a week, I know it will be a circus there, just hope I can find some quieter venues.

[TheNull1]

First thank you for the suggestions. This is my last full day here in Bangkok but more on that after the reports.

Over on the massage side I went down to Peaches after hearing about it in the massage forum. It was kind of early about 4 PM, line up was meh. Ranging from average to slightly above. Paid 2 k for one hour oil massage. Ultimately I went with Bunny who wasn't the best looking but I felt good energy from her. The other girls congratulated her for being picked. Bunny is very chatty, whether that's a pro or con is up to you. I have to say out of all my experiences she definitely came off as the most sincere in enjoying what she does. Massage was lacking but that's the norm for a place like this. Sex was pretty good and here is something I doubt many have experienced. Afterwards she cut and filed my toenails. Strange but by no means bad. Said she studied cosmetology so maybe just a passion for her.

I thought I'd venture and give TF an honest try. Was talking to a real stunner for LT, like you guys suggested got everything up front. She kind of flaked on me. She pushed it back an hour then asked to reschedule. I said ok, got her line, might still pull the trigger on her tonight.

With that fallen through looked for something more last minute on TF. Got an offer from a cute Philippian girl named Ashley for 6 k for an hour. Needless to say I said that was WAY too much, she came back with 3 k incall. I had her send a video to confirm looks and decided to go with it. Now downtown there were a few girls I walked by that tempted me to abandon my current course but bird in the hand, decided to go with what I already had scheduled. Besides I got cancelled last minute wasn't going to do the same. Now there was a misunderstanding about the time, I arrived right when I said but she was 20 minutes late. Said she was eating but wouldn't be shocked if she was out working because was not in her room. Upside she was as advertised and spoke good english. I could talk to her pretty normally.

She pressured to be paid first so I did. Glad that hasn't bitten me yet. Now while she did look as advertised the breasts were quite fake and did not feel good. I love nice breasts and would have taken an A cup over how those felt. Pussy was nice though. She put on some music, we did lots of positions and during it she did good. After trying a few things I've learned its hard for me to get off just doing penis in vagina. Just a step above a handjob. Still she put in the effort to get me off on time. Professional in that sense. After the deed she cooled off fast. I showered real quick and she was pushing for a tip. I gave her 50 since that was the only non-1000 bill I had. She was not happy and clearly just wanted me out so she could look for her next client. The session itself was pretty good but that left a bad taste in my mouth.

Bonus story, TheNull's return misadventure. My hotel was a few km away and the trains weren't running so I ordered a cab. So far so good until one came up to me. Now I use bolt and time was about right so I just assumed this was my cab and got in. Started driving and I realized once he asked where to that this wasn't the right one. Maybe I could get this to work. Now one thing I've learned is a massive downside to staying at Hotel De Bangkok is whenever you tell someone that's where you are staying they think are you saying "hotel in Bangkok" and that you aren't giving them the actual name of the place. Language barrier hit hard, driver clearly didn't get where I wanted to go. I tried to explain I got the wrong cab and to just take me back, which he didn't understand. In a panic I waited for it to stop, opened the door and bolted. It was just WAY too awkward. I messaged the driver I ordered who was still waiting for me. Jogged to the original spot and got in, he didn't seem upset by the wait so thought that was the end of it. Not quite. We were about 3/4 of the way there when the driver stopped, pulled over, got out, then took a leak on the side of the building. I really don't get this. We were only five minutes from my hotel so it couldn't have been that urgent. That was the last major hiccup.

[TheNull1]

To me the situation also felt kinda strange because some people pay for sex to bypass the whole attracting the girl scenario. But here it was like you're trying to attract, and still have to pay.
Don't take it too personally, both the pro and the con is the girls can be a bit selective. Its good for the girls to have some control as it makes their work far more of a choice and less predatory but sometimes for whatever reason you can't find one that connects with you. I'm not lacking in looks but I have near zero charisma and the awkwardness of a language barrier makes it worse. If you want easy options I've been trying a few things out and massage parlors might be your best bet. You see a line-up. Find one that will atleast smile and make eye contact and you should be fine.

I flagged down and got a gogo girl in five minutes but I have no idea if that's the norm. But my lack of game wasn't a deal breaker.

[Axiata]

On the way to Pattaya but had a few days in BKK first. Last night we headed to a few of the bars outside Nana Plaza. Very few women worth talking to or drinking with and so we went up the Billboard. It was about 10 pm and the place was packed. We did manage to find some seats to watch the girls on the stage. While there were some of higher quality, most were below average. Given the prices to take them out we did not consider them to be of value. We stayed for a drink but then left for Butterflies agogo. Same situation in there. Average quality for the asking prices. So our first night in BKK was uneventful, however we were not fussed as we are headed to Pattaya in a few days.

The next day we decided to head to Soi 22 and check out the soapy scene. When we arrived at Bangkok Passion and we were greeted by the mommies and shown a few girls that were very low quality. We asked to see more and the mommies were very willing to bring in girls from the various shops in the area. Clearly they can swap out girls as they want to and the sheer number of shops in that area is amazing. Not saying the quality of girls there is spectacular, however I am sure that the sheer number of girls there means that you will find what you want.

Eventually we found a couple to our liking and headed upstairs. Now I have not had a soapy massage since I was in Hua Hin a few years back, so I was keen to see if it was still my sort of thing. The rooms were fairly standard but clean and large enough. Once in the tub I noticed my girl was very petite with a very nice body that was all real. I also noticed that she actually has a pretty face as well. She was a nice all round package and I was surprised to find her in a soapy massage. The soapy massage was much better than I remember past ones to be and she knew how to use her body. Very sensual with DFK and a lot of stroking. Once on the bed she really gave a GFE experience with a touch of PSE. Multiple positions and she was really into her work. WIR, yes and I got her line account to follow up when back in BKK next week. Soapy was a success and made up for the miss last night. A nice way to remember what I used to enjoy but had stopped doing years ago. May well get another one when in Pattaya!

Heading into Nana again later tonight and then off to Pattaya. Will provide more reports along the trail.

Happy Huntiing.

[OrientalLover]

1st time poster here, just to give an account of my adventures in the big city. Arrived on Sat night after an 11 hour flight.

Sunday arrived and I was keen to visit secret kiss, so we rocked up about 4 pm. Chose a lovely Japanese looking girl for FS, the price was only 2400 be, bargain. Secret kiss was busy, there was a constant stream of customers, the word was clearly out on this place. After finishing my experience and waiting for my travel buddy, an Indian fella walked in wanting FS but having the cheek to ask for a discount, he got declined obviously. The cheek I thought, the girls that I saw areall lovely quality, pale skinned and tidy figures, just pay the price you cheapskate!.Nice report. Can you share the secret kiss location.

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[Axiata]

After taking a much needed rest after the excellent sopay massage, my wingman and I headed back out into the bars along Nana. It was about 8 pm and the bars were doing a little bit of business. We stopped into one of the bars just before Stumble Inn that had only one billiard table and decided to take a seat and see what was on offer. There was a lot of older and a little bit younger girls but the quality was on the lower side. We then went to Stumble Inn to see if anything was happening there. Similar situation with girls of average quality all trying to get us to buy them drinks. After a few games of billiards we left to head up to Billboard to see if the quality was better from the night before. It again was packed and the quality was a little higher. My wingman spotted a girl to his liking and immediately she was at his side. He knows how to pick them. Very pretty face and a body to match. I was still looking at the dancers on stage when the mamasan promptly placed a girl I had been with a few times by my side. I was ok with this because the girl has a nice body and is pretty to look at. I also knew she was a performer providing GFE and gets off on DATY. After a few drinks we ask the mamasan to finalise the bills and take the girls out. The usual quote of 700 bar fine and 4000 for short time. Mamasan also threw in that long time is 1000 bar fine and 8000, which I have never heard of before at any of the agogos either in BKK or Pattaya. Maybe to a newbie that might work, however I declined the long time offer and settled on a short time only. Not sure if any other punters have had that price quoted for a girl from Billboard for a long time?

Anyway, back in the room the experience exceeded my expectations. A lot of DFK, DATY and BBBJ followed by multiple positions and excellent grinding by my girl. She was very very wet which made the experience all the more better. However, having dropped a load at the soapy a few hours earlier I struggled to finish even with all the DFK and wetness. Also, using condoms can make finishing a hit or miss experience for me these days. Oh, I guess being older also means that multiple shots in a day gets harder to do! Not deterred, my girl proceeded to give me another round of BBBJ, but alas was not able to complete.

Overall a thoroughly memorable and enjoyable time with a Billboard girl. WIR, yes because she knows her stuff, is hassle free and easy to be with. A good option when I am in BKK and want a great session with a girl.

Off to Pattaya for a few days. Look for my reports on that thread.

Happy Hunting.

[Werqweq]

LOL, where is my report of my experience? All I said is oil massages at their place is better than my own room. And DDs is best to find them. You will know exactly when I say this is me like when I had my foot in a massage girl's tits way back. LOL.Well, when you post a photo like that it kind of implies it's your own experience.

[ElMexicant]

Well, when you post a photo like that it kind of implies it's your own experience.Kind of like my "Omnipresent" posting? Very good info and intel in both postings if you can decipher them. It keeps the newbies away from my new gems. Most OG Vets know Sephan Kwai and T-Dead was written on way way way back. That is old news. All you have to do is use the search function. DDs Deliciosa! No need to buy me a drink anymore. I am on a calorie count. LOL.


The Punjabi Prince AKA Prince of Pune always has a presence in Thailand... To show me their gratefulness, Boofies plastered me and my Adonis body all on their Facebook page that day. Nobody can prove that the Prince doesn't deserve those 3 awards. To this day, I am the hottest thing to happen to Boofies FB social media page. How about them apples?

[CCRider1008]

On the way to Pattaya but had a few days in BKK first. Last night we headed to a few of the bars outside Nana Plaza. Very few women worth talking to or drinking with and so we went up the Billboard. It was about 10 pm and the place was packed. We did manage to find some seats to watch the girls on the stage. While there were some of higher quality, most were below average. Given the prices to take them out we did not consider them to be of value. We stayed for a drink but then left for Butterflies agogo. Same situation in there. Average quality for the asking prices. So our first night in BKK was uneventful, however we were not fussed as we are headed to Pattaya in a few days.

The next day we decided to head to Soi 22 and check out the soapy scene. When we arrived at Bangkok Passion and we were greeted by the mommies and shown a few girls that were very low quality. We asked to see more and the mommies were very willing to bring in girls from the various shops in the area. Clearly they can swap out girls as they want to and the sheer number of shops in that area is amazing. Not saying the quality of girls there is spectacular, however I am sure that the sheer number of girls there means that you will find what you want..What massage place?

[Hotzo]

Hey guys,

I went to thermae tonight and this was my second time going. I approached few girls and I had like 3 or 4 say "no" to me. Then the few that did reply, wanted 3000-5000 bt.

I don't know if this was because I didn't look good or what. I was dressed in sneakers, shirt, and jeans so not sloppy tourist. I felt I was being given inflated prices. Have any of you experienced this? It just kinda annoyed me because I don't think I"m that fugly to be warranted such negative responses LOL.

To me the situation also felt kinda strange because some people pay for sex to bypass the whole attracting the girl scenario. But here it was like you're trying to attract, and still have to pay.

In any case, I ended up not going with any. Many others have had good experiences, as per the previous reports, this was just my experience.

....Did you check the girls outside of Thermae? Not the ladyboys but the freelancers, what have they been asking? Should be less than inside and should be less "No" .

[WeewillyWinkie]

On the way to Pattaya but had a few days in BKK first. Last night we headed to a few of the bars outside Nana Plaza. Very few women worth talking to or drinking with and so we went up the Billboard. It was about 10 pm and the place was packed. We did manage to find some seats to watch the girls on the stage. While there were some of higher quality, most were below average. Given the prices to take them out we did not consider them to be of value. We stayed for a drink but then left for Butterflies agogo. Same situation in there. Average quality for the asking prices. So our first night in BKK was uneventful, however we were not fussed as we are headed to Pattaya in a few days.

The next day we decided to head to Soi 22 and check out the soapy scene. When we arrived at Bangkok Passion and we were greeted by the mommies and shown a few girls that were very low quality. We asked to see more and the mommies were very willing to bring in girls from the various shops in the area. Clearly they can swap out girls as they want to and the sheer number of shops in that area is amazing..Does their "full service" include 2 shots if you take a 2 hour slot?

[Koryu]

Hey guys,

This might be a dumb question but how are the freelancers on the streets on Sukhumvit? Or the girls just outside Thermae (non LB)?

I have this assumption of street walkers being lesser quality, but I could be wrong. Do you guys go with street walkers? Reliable? Please share your thoughts on the street walking freelancers.

Thanks in advance.

[HolaaaaHiiii]

I ventured to Chinatown looking for Chinese girls. If I recall the girls FEE was 200 baht. Hahaha.Hey mate were you then able to find a Chinese looking girl? How were the looks and the damage.

[HolaaaaHiiii]

I ventured to Chinatown looking for Chinese girls. If I recall the girls FEE was 200 baht. Hahaha.Hey mate were you then able to find a Chinese looking girl? How were the looks and the damage.

[Huntsman]

Hey guys,

This might be a dumb question but how are the freelancers on the streets on Sukhumvit? Or the girls just outside Thermae (non LB)?

I have this assumption of street walkers being lesser quality, but I could be wrong. Do you guys go with street walkers? Reliable? Please share your thoughts on the street walking freelancers.

Thanks in advance.Not sure about the Asians (high probability of LB perhaps), but I have been with four Africans from the area (including a double). A good time was had with all of them. One in particular was memorable because she was a squirter, only the second squirter I have been with. She did try to up the agreed price when we got into the room, but I held firm. So I definitely intend to try one again when I return to Bangkok in June. YMMV of course, because it's a bit of a lottery taking them off the street.

[EzPlayar]

It was a good trip and plenty of fun was had. Pattaya milfs on TF, a massage and bang, and Viet BKK street walkers. The usual mixed bag unworthy of a detailed report. However, I did see a ton of fairly hot Thais hand in hand with western dudes in the street. It looked certainly looked appealing and more than just one-off wham bam.

Question for the seasoned visitors: where do these guys meet these women?? Are they 'holiday girlfriends', wives??

This side of Thailand I know nothing about. Everyone looks happy and some westerners are dumpy with hot Thais.

Can't wait to hear where these companions can be found. Cheers.

[Huntsman]

I'the just like to add to my previous post: with freelancers, be particularly vigilant in locking up your valuables!

[Oakie]

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[Captain Solo]

FIWFANS and see, 2 Telegram groups with 42 K and 52 K members respectively, have been sending their ads to me daily with availabilities of various girls.

Did not see the girls I know; their Line chat ID were STOP or went unanswered.

I can't read Thai. Sign in Telegram and check these groups. The bros may be able to access their services.

[Nyezhov]

I'the just like to add to my previous post: with freelancers, be particularly vigilant in locking up your valuables!One of the African girls get you? That's what they do.

[Fasmlk]

After taking a much needed rest after the excellent sopay massage, my wingman and I headed back out into the bars along Nana. It was about 8 pm and the bars were doing a little bit of business. We stopped into one of the bars just before Stumble Inn that had only one billiard table and decided to take a seat and see what was on offer. There was a lot of older and a little bit younger girls but the quality was on the lower side. We then went to Stumble Inn to see if anything was happening there. Similar situation with girls of average quality all trying to get us to buy them drinks. After a few games of billiards we left to head up to Billboard to see if the quality was better from the night before. It again was packed and the quality was a little higher. My wingman spotted a girl to his liking and immediately she was at his side. He knows how to pick them. Very pretty face and a body to match. I was still looking at the dancers on stage when the mamasan promptly placed a girl I had been with a few times by my side. I was ok with this because the girl has a nice body and is pretty to look at. I also knew she was a performer providing GFE and gets off on DATY. After a few drinks we ask the mamasan to finalise the bills and take the girls out. The usual quote of 700 bar fine and 4000 for short time. Mamasan also threw in that long time is 1000 bar fine and 8000, which I have never heard of before at any of the agogos either in BKK or Pattaya. Maybe to a newbie that might work, however I declined the long time offer and settled on a short time only. Not sure if any other punters have had that price quoted for a girl from Billboard for a long time?

Anyway, back in the room the experience exceeded my expectations. A lot of DFK, DATY and BBBJ followed by multiple positions and excellent grinding by my girl. She was very very wet which made the experience all the more better. However, having dropped a load at the soapy a few hours earlier I struggled to finish even with all the DFK and wetness. Also, using condoms can make finishing a hit or miss experience for me these days. Oh, I guess being older also means that multiple shots in a day gets harder to do! Not deterred, my girl proceeded to give me another round of BBBJ, but alas was not able to complete.

Overall a thoroughly memorable and enjoyable time with a Billboard girl. WIR, yes because she knows her stuff, is hassle free and easy to be with. A good option when I am in BKK and want a great session with a girl.

Off to Pattaya for a few days. Look for my reports on that thread.

Happy Hunting.It's been consistent that people are finding better girls at one or two places in Nana. I got to say, I was visiting Rainbow 2 yesterday and although I didn't take any home, the girls were nice to look at. Tall, slender, some with a big dumper, others with fairly sizable bust. Is Billboards really just that good at getting better girls? If I wasn't short on cash that day I would have taken a girl home from Rainbow 2. I'll try to make my way in tonight to Billboard to compare, though it's going to be packed on a Friday I'm sure.

[Werqweq]

It was a good trip and plenty of fun was had. Pattaya milfs on TF, a massage and bang, and Viet BKK street walkers. The usual mixed bag unworthy of a detailed report. However, I did see a ton of fairly hot Thais hand in hand with western dudes in the street. It looked certainly looked appealing and more than just one-off wham bam.

Question for the seasoned visitors: where do these guys meet these women?? Are they 'holiday girlfriends', wives??

This side of Thailand I know nothing about. Everyone looks happy and some westerners are dumpy with hot Thais.

Can't wait to hear where these companions can be found. Cheers.Dunno about "a ton" and "hot", but in many cases it's perhaps the real girlfriends of people who stay in Thailand longtime. A presentable western dude settling down in Thailand will (even today) be batting way out of his league as far as Thai girls are concerned, once he learns a little Thai and adapts to the culture somewhat.

On the other hand you also see plenty of what are obviously some sort of slightly longer term hooker walking hand in hand with western dudes too.

[Goatscrot]

Dunno about "a ton" and "hot", but in many cases it's perhaps the real girlfriends of people who stay in Thailand longtime. A presentable western dude settling down in Thailand will (even today) be batting way out of his league as far as Thai girls are concerned, once he learns a little Thai and adapts to the culture somewhat.

On the other hand you also see plenty of what are obviously some sort of slightly longer term hooker walking hand in hand with western dudes too.Yes, that's absolutely the way it is here.

[Huntsman]

One of the African girls get you? That's what they do.Nah. I'm quite OCD when it comes to locking up anything that might be remotely attractive to them.

[Chop]

Dunno about "a ton" and "hot", but in many cases it's perhaps the real girlfriends of people who stay in Thailand longtime. A presentable western dude settling down in Thailand will (even today) be batting way out of his league as far as Thai girls are concerned, once he learns a little Thai and adapts to the culture somewhat.


Yes, that's absolutely the way it is here.In case anyone wonders if Goatscrot is being sarcastic here, he's not.

If you can bathe / wear clean clothes / speak a touch of Thai, the locals (and here I mean: way off the tourist-monger path locals) will all but throw their women at you.

[UglyAzzMan]

In case anyone wonders if Goatscrot is being sarcastic here, he's not.

If you can bathe / wear clean clothes / speak a touch of Thai, the locals (and here I mean: way off the tourist-monger path locals) will all but throw their women at you.No they won't throw them serves at you. Visual evidence is Lacking.

[ShiftTab]

Hey guys,

This might be a dumb question but how are the freelancers on the streets on Sukhumvit? Or the girls just outside Thermae (non LB)?

I have this assumption of street walkers being lesser quality, but I could be wrong. Do you guys go with street walkers? Reliable? Please share your thoughts on the street walking freelancers.

Thanks in advance.I had experience with streetwalkers and prefer them to the girls in the clubs. They're a mix of pros and amateurs, but I've had good luck with amateurs who I found near Soi 21, away from Thermae. These were college students, store clerks, and one who worked at the duty free store at the airport. I had multiple sessions with one store clerk who worked at Big C, and the airport worker wanted to be my girlfriend after 3 sessions. I would suggest checking out the streetwalkers away from Thermae and Nana to find amateurs. It was good to have a reliable girl I could meet on the weekends when I was off work, and not feel rushed during the session. We would often meet at a predetermined intersection and take a taxi to one of the love hotels to spend an hour or two of fun.
For the girls, they have a regular life and job, but just don't make a lot of money so the sessions we have together helps them out a lot. Also, since they're regular girls, there's less chance they're fucking 3-4 guys each day to pay the rent. Meeting a girl once a week would double their income, so we're both benefitting from the sessions. Your experience may differ, but the best times I had in Bangkok were with amateur street walkers.

[Larbmoo555]

Billboard was fucking packed last night around midnight. To the extent that I would label it a sausage fest. I generally prefer places where the girl to guy ratio is overwhelmingly in favor of the man rather than vice versa. That's one reason I left the sex Sharia country that is the USA. But regardless, there was still room to sit (just barely), and there were still several pretty girls available on stage I would have taken, but I'd say overall that most girls still available were just average and I wouldn't pay 5 k baht (4 k ST+ 1 k BF) for them. I will assume the situation is better if you come earlier. Had a beer and then walked around Nana Plaza. Anyone been to Bunny 5 (Some very cute girls in front & inside and no customers but wasn't sure if it's a scam bar or not.

Then walked up and down soi 4 a bit around 1 am-ish to check the freelancer situation. Still a good number of freelancers particularly in front of Maison Hotel. Vietnamese, Chinese I assume from PRC, I even saw large Arab women in their Muslim garb. Looks were average to slightly above average, in favor of the Viet girls. Again I will assume the prettier ones get picked up before 1 am. Many African girls too on the street opposite to Maison hotel, there was one I would consider beautiful but I don't go with Africans girls anymore (100% of the ones I've been with have had odor issues and I don't mean body odor, whereas out of 100+ Thai girls only 2-3 have had obvious bacterial vaginosis).

Headed to Thermae in time for closing, tons of desperate and pretty girls spilling out onto the street, many lowering their price to 2 k ST but the prettier ones (those that are willing to go with farang) still firm on 3 k though they'd probably discount LT. I don't do LT so I didn't ask. In general almost every girl I've been with in Thermae has asked 3 k, as a white guy. Some older / less prettier ones have asked 2500, some younger / prettier ones have asked 3500. If I got quoted 5 k, I would laugh and keep walking, which is probably what they want anyways. 3 k is already more than enough for the rushed & mechanical job most girls there do, but sometimes you find a real gem that becomes a regular, which is why I keep going back. I will say that the freelancer situation in front of Thermae has gotten much better, and I don't mean the ladyboys. There are small groups of very young & pretty Lao girls (20-22 years old) who hang out around Thermae not long after opening. They can't go in because they don't have a Thai ID card. They get snatched up fairly quick but I did get one's LINE, will see her this week when I have time. I would say the freelancer situation on Sukhumvit between Soi Cowboy & Nana Plaza in general is better than I've seen in a long time, maybe due to the faltering economy, lower number of Chinese visitors, and Thermae overflowing.

[Nyezhov]

I had experience with streetwalkers and prefer them to the girls in the clubs. They're a mix of pros and amateurs, but I've had good luck with amateurs who I found near Soi 21, away from Thermae. These were college students, store clerks, and one who worked at the duty free store at the airport. I had multiple sessions with one store clerk who worked at Big C, and the airport worker wanted to be my girlfriend after 3 sessions. I would suggest checking out the streetwalkers away from Thermae and Nana to find amateurs. It was good to have a reliable girl I could meet on the weekends when I was off work, and not feel rushed during the session. We would often meet at a predetermined intersection and take a taxi to one of the love hotels to spend an hour or two of fun.
For the girls, they have a regular life and job, but just don't make a lot of money so the sessions we have together helps them out a lot. Also, since they're regular girls, there's less chance they're fucking 3-4 guys each day to pay the rent. Meeting a girl once a week would double their income, so we're both benefitting from the sessions. Your experience may differ, but the best times I had in Bangkok were with amateur street walkers.Where on 21? You mean 21 road. Which side?

[Mr Enternational]

However, I did see a ton of fairly hot Thais hand in hand with western dudes in the street. It looked certainly looked appealing and more than just one-off wham bam.All my eyes ever see is guys appearing to drag their hooker catch of the day down the street. It is more like some caveman shit. The girl is always behind, not next to him. And 98% of the time not hot at all. I have never seen something like that with people who are an actual couple.

[HorseTrader]

Hey guys,

This might be a dumb question but how are the freelancers on the streets on Sukhumvit? Or the girls just outside Thermae (non LB)?

I have this assumption of street walkers being lesser quality, but I could be wrong. Do you guys go with street walkers? Reliable? Please share your thoughts on the street walking freelancers.

Thanks in advance.Like any other group of P4P girls, it's a mixed bag. In my experience:

1. They are more likely to try to change the agreement in the room. Best to agree to everything you want while still on the street (shower, DFK, BJ, sex, whatever you want). Be sure to pay after and feel free to kick them out if necessary.

2. Price typically a little less than girls from a bar.

3. More concern over having a ladyboy. If not 100% sure, just ask her.

4. Since she isn't affiliated with any bar or massage shop, it's easier for her to disappear. I encourage you to give her ID to reception in case there are problems.

5. I typically see about 30 to 50 streetwalkers before I find one that is doable. But, there are a few hotties. Very few.

[Mr Enternational]

I've had good luck with amateurs who I found near Soi 21, away from Thermae. These were college students, store clerks, and one who worked at the duty free store at the airport.
For the girls, they have a regular life and job, but just don't make a lot of money so the sessions we have together helps them out a lot.Same thing in Pattaya on Beach Road, yet people have a misconception all of them are drug addicts, uglies, and people the bars won't allow to work.

[Chop]

No they won't throw them serves at you. Visual evidence is Lacking.Visualize yourself somewhere outside Pattaya / a couple kilometers away from the BTS line. While you're at it, imagine you're not a drunk and you can speak to them in their language.

[Koryu]

I had experience with streetwalkers and prefer them to the girls in the clubs. They're a mix of pros and amateurs, but I've had good luck with amateurs who I found near Soi 21, away from Thermae. These were college students, store clerks, and one who worked at the duty free store at the airport. I had multiple sessions with one store clerk who worked at Big C, and the airport worker wanted to be my girlfriend after 3 sessions. I would suggest checking out the streetwalkers away from Thermae and Nana to find amateurs. It was good to have a reliable girl I could meet on the weekends when I was off work, and not feel rushed during the session. We would often meet at a predetermined intersection and take a taxi to one of the love hotels to spend an hour or two of fun.
For the girls, they have a regular life and job, but just don't make a lot of money so the sessions we have together helps them out a lot. Also, since they're regular girls, there's less chance they're fucking 3-4 guys each day to pay the rent. Meeting a girl once a week would double their income, so we're both benefitting from the sessions. Your experience may differ, but the best times I had in Bangkok were with amateur street walkers.Please share where you find these girls. I'd much rather prefer amateurs. Away from thermae and go where? Share details please.

Also, how do you detect these girls to be amateurs? I'm always kinda careful with even looking at the street freelancers because so often they're LB, which isn't my cup of tea.

[Nyezhov]

Please share where you find these girls. I'd much rather prefer amateurs. Away from thermae and go where? Share details please.

Also, how do you detect these girls to be amateurs? I'm always kinda careful with even looking at the street freelancers because so often they're LB, which isn't my cup of tea.The ones that ask for money arent amateurs. There's no such thing as an amateur hooker.

[ElMexicant]

Please share where you find these girls. I'd much rather prefer amateurs. Away from thermae and go where? Share details please.

Also, how do you detect these girls to be amateurs? I'm always kinda careful with even looking at the street freelancers because so often they're LB, which isn't my cup of tea.This is my two pesos worth of advice. Thermae and street girls pretend and give you the illusion of amateurs. But they just pretend because they really are ballin mfking pros! If you want to get the real amateurs, then stay on the Sukhumvit area only and approach every Thai female vendor you see. It's all about shyness. Who wouldn't want to make 2500 baht per hour in Thailand just to lay there. But as far ask cup of tea and LBs, all I can say is avoid the vendor that sell Thai tea and Matcha tea on the new bags. Or you can try and let me know how is the quality and taste. Maybe just stick to cups. LOL "stick to cups".

[Shikhar10]

Who wouldn't want to make 2500 baht per hour in Thailand just to lay there.Someone who is not a sex worker.

Seriously, stop advising people to chase women who are not in P4 P scene. I am sure many locals find it rude. Keep your dirty desires to designated spots only.

[UglyAzzMan]

There's a Univetsity School Girl who hangs out by the entrance to NANA. Looks like an Amateur.

[Huntsman]

. Many African girls too on the street opposite to Maison hotel, there was one I would consider beautiful but I don't go with Africans girls anymore (100% of the ones I've been with have had odor issues and I don't mean body odor, whereas out of 100+ Thai girls only 2-3 have had obvious bacterial vaginosis).
Come to think of it, one of mine had that issue, but the other three were fine (including the squirter).

[Axiata]

After a week in Pattaya we came back for a one night stop over in BKK. My wingman was determined to visit Billboard and bar fine the girl he had the week before. I was keen to try another girl from that agogo. We left our hotel too early to visit Billboard and decided to pop into a small bar in Soi 8 that had two nice pool tables, but what pulled us in was a stunning looking girl sitting out the front. My wingman made a bee line straight for her. She was easily one of the most attractive girls I have seen in these small bars with a tight body. The other girls in the bar were not worth the attention but they knew how to play pool. So while I played pool, my wingman went to work to see what was on offer. The girl was keen for a short time bar fine and this presented my wingman with a huge problem. Go for the new girl or stick with the girl from the week before? IMHO both girls were high quality and the only difference was the known VS the unknown. He was thinking of doing both but as we had to be up very early, time was not on his side. In the end he got her line number and decided he would see if the Billboard girl was working. So into Billboard we went and being a Saturday night it was packed. We secured a good set of seats and proceeded to look at the girls. The quality was mixed although there were some very attractive girls. My wingman managed to spot his girl and had her with him in a flash. I took more time and finally settled on one that had a very pretty face, nice figure with natural small breasts.

I bar fined her and when she came back from getting dressed I thought, wow, stylish and a very, very tidy package. After a few more drinks at the bar we decided to go back to the hotel. Off my wingman went to his room with a huge smile on his face. Back in my room my girl proceeded to take a shower and then came out revealing a fantastic curly body, nice arse and perky breasts. I then began to give her long cat bath which got her super wet and then began tasting her pussy, which was amazing. So soft, clean and easily one of the best pussies I have seen and had the pleasure of performing DATY on. So much so that I spent a lot of time doing DATY. She was so wet and I knew that I needed to pop a cap on and get into that wet pussy. While not a GFE in that kissing was limited, the sex was great, many positions, and it was not rushed. I felt like I was having sex with a woman, not some immature young thing. The view of her arse as I got her from behind is something to remember. WIR, hell yeah, and I am really annoyed I did not grab her the week before when I had two days in BKK.

So the last night in BKK was really fun. Both my wingman and I enjoyed the company of two attractive girls in their 20's. Got to lo love BKK.

Happy Hunting.

[ShiftTab]

Please share where you find these girls. I'd much rather prefer amateurs. Away from thermae and go where? Share details please.

Also, how do you detect these girls to be amateurs? I'm always kinda careful with even looking at the street freelancers because so often they're LB, which isn't my cup of tea.It has been a while since I was in Bangkok, but the girls I found were on Sukhumvit near Soi 21, around the Terminal 21 mall, and also on Phetchaburi road near the train station. The girls might hang out at different locations now, since I haven't been in Bangkok for several years. Most of the girls I found on the streets were actually bar girls or club girls who were looking for additional work after the bars or clubs closed, but I did get lucky with a few amateurs. You can't tell they're amateurs by their appearance, but if they're wearing stripper high heel shoes, very revealing clothes, and tons of makeup, it's likely they're not amateurs. I found out these girls were amateurs with regular lives and jobs by talking to them while we were in the love hotel and their willingness to give me their phone numbers to arrange future meetings. They also don't give out the same vibes the pros do. Also, when you do have sex with them, if the girl sucks your dick, then strokes your penis with her hand while sucking your balls in her mouth like in a porn video, she's likely not an amateur. The amateur girls I had recurring meetings with enjoyed more vanilla sex. The last girl I had before leaving Bangkok, the college student, never sucked my dick and wasn't interested in sucking my dick unless I shaved off all the hair down there. She, however, really enjoyed letting me lick her pussy and liked fucking in missionary and doggy, but no other positions. After you have about a dozen sessions with the pros from the bars and clubs, it'll become easier to determine the amateurs when they're in bed with you.

[Plant Smoke]

This is Plantsmoke. Someone asked shift tab a question and to provide details. Shifttab was compliant and made great effort to provide a response. However he fell short in his response.

"streetwalkers near the petchburi train station. ".

Responses like this drive me nuts and are useless. How many train stations are there in petchburi. There is one in maskkasan right? And is he talking of a train station or the bts (sky train)?

If the result is sending a reader on a wild goose chase, then respectfully please don't contribute till your facts are straight.

[Nyezhov]

It has been a while since I was in Bangkok, but the girls I found were on Sukhumvit near Soi 21, around the Terminal 21 mall, and also on Phetchaburi road near the train station. The girls might hang out at different locations now, since I haven't been in Bangkok for several years. Most of the girls I found on the streets were actually bar girls or club girls who were looking for additional work after the bars or clubs closed, but I did get lucky with a few amateurs. You can't tell they're amateurs by their appearance, but if they're wearing stripper high heel shoes, very revealing clothes, and tons of makeup, it's likely they're not amateurs. I found out these girls were amateurs with regular lives and jobs by talking to them while we were in the love hotel and their willingness to give me their phone numbers to arrange future meetings. They also don't give out the same vibes the pros do. Also, when you do have sex with them, if the girl sucks your dick, then strokes your penis with her hand while sucking your balls in her mouth like in a porn video, she's likely not an amateur. The amateur girls I had recurring meetings with enjoyed more vanilla sex. The last girl I had before leaving Bangkok, the college student, never sucked my dick and wasn't interested in sucking my dick unless I shaved off all the hair down there. She, however, really enjoyed letting me lick her pussy and liked fucking in missionary and doggy, but no other positions. After you have about a dozen sessions with the pros from the bars and clubs, it'll become easier to determine the amateurs when they're in bed with you.As of my last trip to Bangkok (January, 2025) there were no hookers near Terminal 21 except late night ladyboys.

Petchaburi Road used to be a low end Thai track replete with ladyboys but I haven't been past there in a year. There were girls near the old Soapies after they closed.

There is no such thing as an amateur hooker, your romanticizing aside.

[HorseTrader]

the college student, never sucked my dick and wasn't interested in sucking my dick unless I shaved off all the hair down there.I started trimming and shaving about 4 years ago. Since then I've noticed that girls are more enthusiastic during oral than prior. I did have one non-P4P girlfriend who preferred natural, but she was so hairy that I couldn't go down on her without that untamed bush ruining the experience for me.

[Huntsman]

I started trimming and shaving about 4 years ago. Since then I've noticed that girls are more enthusiastic during oral than prior. I did have one non-P4P girlfriend who preferred natural, but she was so hairy that I couldn't go down on her without that untamed bush ruining the experience for me.Well, if you want to leave yourself more vulnerable to catching STDs, by all means shave away. I have rarely had a girl complain about my pubes, P4P or otherwise. And when they have it's just a vague kind of an expression of preference, not a deal breaker. I can't understand why it would put girls off giving you oral. It's not like you have hair on your penis. Or do you?

[EverythingThai]

Visited Thermae Bar last night to see how the scene is holding up. It was busy, with the usual mix of Japanese and Korean men, and some Westerners. Westerners were the sure minority.

Observations:

I saw one middle-aged Russian guy strike out with at least 10 different girls. Most weren't interested, and one didn't even bother looking up from her phone while he tried talking to her.

From what I saw, Asian guys (especially Japanese / Korean) still have a clear advantage. Girls are more responsive to them.

If you're non-Asian, it's best to wait for eye contact. That's the only real sign of interest that means something. Approaching random girls who haven't looked at you first is a waste of time.

It took me about an hour to find a girl I liked and who showed interest back.

Engagement:

Once we connected, things moved quickly.

Agreed price: 2,500 baht for short time.

I paid an additional 1,000 baht for BBFS CIP which I just paid up in the room as a tip. We never discussed it beforehand, but we had good chemistry. I took her for a quick drink on Soi 11 at Oskar and she loved the bottle of wine. Taking selfies with her glass held up half the time.

Thermae hasn't changed much. Success depends on chemistry, not just money. If you're a Westerner, don't expect girls to jump at you. Watch for eye contact, be patient, and don't chase uninterested ones. The scene still works, but you have to play it smart. Posters like Koryu who have accurate reports about this place being more friendly for Asian dudes are spot on.


Hey guys,

I went to thermae tonight and this was my second time going. I approached few girls and I had like 3 or 4 say "no" to me. Then the few that did reply, wanted 3000-5000 bt.

I don't know if this was because I didn't look good or what. I was dressed in sneakers, shirt, and jeans so not sloppy tourist. I felt I was being given inflated prices. Have any of you experienced this? It just kinda annoyed me because I don't think I"m that fugly to be warranted such negative responses LOL.

To me the situation also felt kinda strange because some people pay for sex to bypass the whole attracting the girl scenario. But here it was like you're trying to attract, and still have to pay.

In any case, I ended up not going with any. Many others have had good experiences, as per the previous reports, this was just my experience.

What could he have done? Wait for eye contact before moving in to speak.

So, about Thermae guys. Listen to the posters who are actually boots on the ground. By the way, Tooms is way more experienced in Thermae than I am and he knows how to lock the girls down in there with the least chance of getting shot down. Learn from guys like him with constant boots on the ground.


For me, I enjoy the bar scene or Thai Friendly me than Thermae. However, this place offers a change of pace that I enjoy every once in a while.

[Omfgitzjin]

Agreed price: 2,500 baht for short time.

I paid an additional 1,000 baht for BBFS CIP which I just paid up in the room as a tip. We never discussed it beforehand, but we had good chemistry. I took her for a quick drink on Soi 11 at Oskar and she loved the bottle of wine. Taking selfies with her glass held up half the time.

Is BBFS getting more common now? Last time I went to thailand was 2016 and I never asked, but got it a few times during the heat of the moment and didn't pay extra. Is it something you guys usually talk about before hand?

[EverythingThai]

The ones that ask for money arent amateurs. There's no such thing as an amateur hooker.

In Bangkok maybe there are no amateur hookers in the sense that if they are pay for play, they are professional. However, there are new girls who have just got themselves into the game or part timers. I think those are more what guys are looking for when they say amateurs.

For me the best way to find amateurs in this sense of the word in Bangkok is on Thai Friendly. I have met some really good first time hookers on their who could not speak a word of English. They said they could not communicate with 99% percent of the guys on TF but they were hoping to come across someone like me who could speak Thai. So, in this context, I was lucky to find about 10 girls like this over that past several years in Bangkok.

Another place I have had luck was getting referrals from other freelancers or bar girls I know from Nana or Soi Cowboy or TF. Many have contacted me to introduce me to newbies because I can speak Thai. Often the rates were similar to Pattaya such as 1500 Baht plus the taxi fare as an example.

I have also been lucky to find a few in Soi 7 who could not speak any English as well. Little to no experience and young. 20-23.

Man I miss Bee Talk. This app back in the day was a great way to meet university girls in Bangkok.

Whatever you do guys, do not approach random street vendors on Sukhumvit trying to solicit pay for play services upfront. You could find yourself in a shit load of legal trouble. The best way to do this is to just ask for their contact details. Chat later and ask them out for coffee to feel them out first. Or even do it over line. Ask them what they are looking for. Invite her to your hotel without mentioning pay for play. If she says yes, it's almost a given she will be willing.Then work out the details while she is at your hotel.

[Newton York]

Visited Thermae Bar last night to see how the scene is holding up. It was busy, with the usual mix of Japanese and Korean men, and some Westerners. Westerners were the sure minority.

Observations:

I saw one middle-aged Russian guy strike out with at least 10 different girls. Most weren't interested, and one didn't even bother looking up from her phone while he tried talking to her.

From what I saw, Asian guys (especially Japanese / Korean) still have a clear advantage. Girls are more responsive to them.

If you're non-Asian, it's best to wait for eye contact. That's the only real sign of interest that means something. Approaching random girls who haven't looked at you first is a waste of time.

It took me about an hour to find a girl I liked and who showed interest back.

Engagement:

Once we connected, things moved quickly.

Agreed price: 2,500 baht for short time.

I paid an additional 1,000 baht for BBFS CIP which I just paid up in the room as a tip. We never discussed it beforehand, but we had good chemistry. I took her for a quick drink on Soi 11 at Oskar and she loved the bottle of wine. Taking selfies with her glass held up half the time.

Thermae hasn't changed much. Success depends on chemistry, not just money. If you're a Westerner, don't expect girls to jump at you. Watch for eye contact, be patient, and don't chase uninterested ones. The scene still works, but you have to play it smart. Posters like Koryu who have accurate reports about this place being more friendly for Asian dudes are spot on.

What could he have done? Wait for eye contact before moving in to speak.

So, about Thermae guys. Listen to the posters who are actually boots on the ground. By the way, Tooms is way more experienced in Thermae than I am and he knows how to lock the girls down in there with the least chance of getting shot down. Learn from guys like him with constant boots on the ground.


For me, I enjoy the bar scene or Thai Friendly me than Thermae. However, this place offers a change of pace that I enjoy every once in a while.I had a 'meh' experience in Thermae. In some ways, the chase was more fun. I think it has a lot to do with luck. There's just so many chicks there, how do you choose when you have limited time? IF you're lucky enough to live in Bangkok full time, then Thermae would be way more fun for you, cause when you find 2 or 3 really good chicks at Thermae, you can repeat with them. But if you've got like 2 weeks, it's a crap shoot. Like I got 3 chicks from Thermae in the few weeks I had in Bangkok, and 2 were bad, one was ok. Statistically, if I had pulled more, eventually I'd find a spectacular one. And then I'd be able to rate Thermae better.

Thermae is all about time and luck. Even if a fellow hobbyist has a great time with a specific chick there, don't mean she's going to necessarily give you a great time.

[Ranvir 226]

Many senior experinced brothers have advised to avoid go go bars in soi cow boy. Request any fellow brother to identify these bars by name for benefit of we all. Thanks.

[EihTooms]

Visited Thermae Bar last night to see how the scene is holding up. It was busy, with the usual mix of Japanese and Korean men, and some Westerners. Westerners were the sure minority.

Observations:

I saw one middle-aged Russian guy strike out with at least 10 different girls. Most weren't interested, and one didn't even bother looking up from her phone while he tried talking to her.

From what I saw, Asian guys (especially Japanese / Korean) still have a clear advantage. Girls are more responsive to them.

If you're non-Asian, it's best to wait for eye contact. That's the only real sign of interest that means something. Approaching random girls who haven't looked at you first is a waste of time.

It took me about an hour to find a girl I liked and who showed interest back.

Engagement:

Once we connected, things moved quickly.

Agreed price: 2,500 baht for short time.

I paid an additional 1,000 baht for BBFS CIP which I just paid up in the room as a tip. We never discussed it beforehand, but we had good chemistry. I took her for a quick drink on Soi 11 at Oskar and she loved the bottle of wine. Taking selfies with her glass held up half the time.

Thermae hasn't changed much. Success depends on chemistry, not just money. If you're a Westerner, don't expect girls to jump at you. Watch for eye contact, be patient, and don't chase uninterested ones. The scene still works, but you have to play it smart. Posters like Koryu who have accurate reports about this place being more friendly for Asian dudes are spot on.

What could he have done? Wait for eye contact before moving in to speak.

So, about Thermae guys. Listen to the posters who are actually boots on the ground. By the way, Tooms is way more experienced in Thermae than I am and he knows how to lock the girls down in there with the least chance of getting shot down. Learn from guys like him with constant boots on the ground.


For me, I enjoy the bar scene or Thai Friendly me than Thermae. However, this place offers a change of pace that I enjoy every once in a while.Hi EThai. Thanks for the mention but I should remind my fellow Thermae punters that I have been all about getting an upfront agreement from the girl that she will engage in BBFSCIP or at minimum BBBJCIM before I tell her "Yes, Let's Go" for quite some time now. Maybe even for DATY and DFK if her big broad smile has not already turned into a grimace of horror and dread and she hasn't removed her hand from my hand or arm like it just turned into a turd at the mere suggestion that I want to engage in BBFSCIP with her. LOL.

That approach has a spotty enough success rate when I am in a gogo bar, a beer bar or on the street. But, as I have mentioned in the past, my absolute worst success rate for getting an upfront agreement for BBFSCIP from the, imo, rather wide range of acceptable looking and pleasant demeanor sex partner prospects, would have to be in Massage Shops, so-called Porn Sex Experience / Anything Goes Happy Ending Shops such as Tulip and Snow White in Bangkok, virtually anywhere in Pattaya and, yep, inside and right outside of Thermae.

And I think this mission of mine to get an upfront agreement for BBFSCIP, before I say "Yes, let's go" to any girl anywhere, before a barfine is paid, eons before bottles of wine are bought at a different bar, certainly well before we are "going with the flow" in the room or at crunch time when I am poised for entry with my bare back dick a centimeter away from her bare back pussy puts me in a totally different category of punter from 99% if not more of all other punters in Thailand, who for the most part would never go about their punting mission my way and, from what I have read and heard, by far prefer the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach. An approach I largely but I admit did not 100% abandoned years ago.

Therefore, we might be comparing Apples to Oranges when it comes to what I lock in or not, especially in Thermae, vs most other punters. My observation of what passes for upfront "negotiation" in Thermae among practically every other punter except me is that it seems to be only about how much and for how long. Maybe for how many pops. But I see very little evidence of any discussion about "for what", least of all for anything resembling BBFSCIP or even BBBJCIM.

It is a completely different game on a completely different playing field from what I am up to.

However, I do think a reasonable comparison or point of reference can be made between me and other punters with regard to locking in an awareness of likely positive response from the above average lookers in Thermae. But only right up until we get to my particular upfront agreement approach. As a 71 year old white guy in reasonably good shape, having showered and put on clean conservative style clothes, armed with a big inviting smile and perhaps a "sawatdee krup" or two, I can honestly say I get pretty darn good positive initial response and even a reach out or four from many except the most determined Asian Customers Only elite hookers in the place.

Perhaps more to the point, my very high rate of eventual rejection from Thermae girls for what I consider to be Real Sex as I described above in context of my much preferred upfront agreement for it approach has never led me to believe less than 90% of the girls in Thermae would absolutely without hesitation agree to go with me in front of god and everyone else present in and outside of Thermae if the only things I mentioned or asked them in the bar was "How much? How long? And how many pops"?

[SiamMan]

Many senior experinced brothers have advised to avoid go go bars in soi cow boy. Request any fellow brother to identify these bars by name for benefit of we all. Thanks."The Arab" has owned Deja Vu, Kiss, Midnite, Rio, Spice Girls bars on Soi Cowboy for a relatively long time. There may be others as well, but I'm not so up to date with recent developments on Soi Cowboy.

[Vicky Cooper]

I'm planning on heading to BKK next month in April for a short 3-4 day getaway after the songkran festival. I plan on staying in the DMK airport area given there are so many nice hotels at a very reasonable price compared to the ones on Sukhumvit road. A quick scan reveals hotels like 12 day residence and 7 days premium all under 5000 THB for 3-4 nights total.

Are there any good mongering establishments in the DMK neighbourhood within walking distance? Also on the look out for some legit massage shops that provide foot massages as they are my nightly favourite before going to bed. I plan on taking grab every evening to sukhumvit road to forage for punani and then again back to my hotel in the DMK area. I wonder how much would a single one way trip cost and and hopefully it would burn a hole in my wallet.

[Werqweq]

I'm planning on heading to BKK next month in April for a short 3-4 day getaway after the songkran festival. I plan on staying in the DMK airport area given there are so many nice hotels at a very reasonable price compared to the ones on Sukhumvit road. A quick scan reveals hotels like 12 day residence and 7 days premium all under 5000 THB for 3-4 nights total.

Are there any good mongering establishments in the DMK neighbourhood within walking distance? Also on the look out for some legit massage shops that provide foot massages as they are my nightly favourite before going to bed. I plan on taking grab every evening to sukhumvit road to forage for punani and then again back to my hotel in the DMK area. I wonder how much would a single one way trip cost and and hopefully it would burn a hole in my wallet.Tip: just open the grap app while outside Thailand and enter the to and from addresses to see what it will cost, and google maps for a better idea of how long it will take. My guess is one hour plus each way, so I wouldn't bother with that myself.

[HorseTrader]

I'm planning on heading to BKK next month in April for a short 3-4 day getaway after the songkran festival. I plan on staying in the DMK airport area given there are so many nice hotels at a very reasonable price compared to the ones on Sukhumvit road. A quick scan reveals hotels like 12 day residence and 7 days premium all under 5000 THB for 3-4 nights total.

Are there any good mongering establishments in the DMK neighbourhood within walking distance? Also on the look out for some legit massage shops that provide foot massages as they are my nightly favourite before going to bed. I plan on taking grab every evening to sukhumvit road to forage for punani and then again back to my hotel in the DMK area. I wonder how much would a single one way trip cost and and hopefully it would burn a hole in my wallet.This morning I took a taxi on that route and it was 500 baht and 45 minutes. That 45 minutes can get up to a couple hours in times of bad traffic, I’ve experienced that. Based on 500 baht for taxi, perhaps 300 for Grab.

The overall concept does not seem good to me. Too much wasted time in transportation

[SethMacfarlane]

FIWFANS and see, 2 Telegram groups with 42 K and 52 K members respectively, have been sending their ads to me daily with availabilities of various girls.

Did not see the girls I know; their Line chat ID were STOP or went unanswered.

I can't read Thai. Sign in Telegram and check these groups. The bros may be able to access their services.Can you share the telegram link, headed to BKK in a few days.

[WithNailAndI]

FWIW here are my thoughts.

Tulip is the 'legend', pretty much ANYTHING goes there and as many fellow punters will confirm it has a reputation for a reason. The girls vary from awful to decent (you won't find any stunners there) but you will get exceptional PSE service from pretty much all of them; however the real downside is the place is very shabby with crap decor & small rooms, but you aren't going there for the rooms so does it really matter? It's def worth a visit of you're brave enough.

Snow White & Cherry have now combined, not as PSE as Tulip (nowhere is) but they will also pretty much do anything. Girls tend to be slightly better looking than Tulip but not all of them do everything (I. E. Anal) so best ask the Mammasan what you want & she will ensure all OK. Rooms are definitely cleaner & nicer than Tulip & if you get the right girl the service is 99% of Tulips (IMHO).

Bamboo to me is the most underrated of the lot & I really don't know why? Clean rooms, nice atmosphere and some of the girls are pretty good looking IMHO. As long as you know what you want and explain in detail to the Mammasan then you will get what you are after. I've been multiple times (if you can't tell) and have never been disappointed. Bamboo is a tad more expensive than the others but it's peanuts for USD / GBP / AUD tourists so what does it matter?

Cheers & good luck.


With my limited experience, IMO, PSE is available in only three to four massage parlours in Bangkok, they are.

A. Tulip b. Snowwhite c . Cherry d. Bamboo.

I request more experinced brothers to further add up on this list.

[Goatscrot]

FWIW here are my thoughts.

Tulip is the 'legend', pretty much ANYTHING goes there and as many fellow punters will confirm it has a reputation for a reason. The girls vary from awful to decent (you won't find any stunners there) but you will get exceptional PSE service from pretty much all of them; however the real downside is the place is very shabby with crap decor & small rooms, but you aren't going there for the rooms so does it really matter? It's def worth a visit of you're brave enough.

Snow White & Cherry have now combined, not as PSE as Tulip (nowhere is) but they will also pretty much do anything. Girls tend to be slightly better looking than Tulip but not all of them do everything (I. E. Anal) so best ask the Mammasan what you want & she will ensure all OK. Rooms are definitely cleaner & nicer than Tulip & if you get the right girl the service is 99% of Tulips (IMHO).

Bamboo to me is the most underrated of the lot & I really don't know why? Clean rooms, nice atmosphere and some of the girls are pretty good looking IMHO. As long as you know what you want and explain in detail to the Mammasan then you will get what you are after. I've been multiple times (if you can't tell) and have never been disappointed. Bamboo is a tad more expensive than the others but it's peanuts for USD / GBP / AUD tourists so what does it matter?

Cheers & good luck.SW just added a 500 Baht A+ charge.

[Fargler]

Went to BKK48 for a bbj. Mamsan brought out 4 girls. Two or three I recognized from the website. Pictures were quite accurate!

I chose Kitty. Not who I would have chosen from the website, but she had the right energy in the line-up. Others were better looking, but seemed a little bored or tired. I'm a believer in letting the girl choose you.

Pay 1300 baht and up to the room we go.

She showered me, then pulled down her top and got to work. Not an exemplary effort, but got the job done. I say not exemplary because she would not allow CIM. Otherwise OK, and I would like to try some of the other girls. But I would not repeat unless the next girl allows CIM.

Fargler.

[OxygenFresh]

Visiting BKK after 4 years. All the previous 5 visits were before I discovered this wonderful platform. Thank you for this trove of knowledge and wisdom LOL.

Went to Doki Doki massage earlier today. Had good memories from my last visit, so decided to repeat. It has gone completely downhill. I visited around 1:30 in the afternoon. The place was deserted and I was the apparently the first customer of the day, or at least that's what the lady on reception told me. She showed me pictures of 3 women who were available, but I asked for a lineup. All 3 were nothing like their pictures, all atleast above 35, and at best, rank no more than 4 on a scale of 10. Since I was there for nostalgia sake, I decided to go ahead, hoping that the performance will live up to my past experience. Chose the leanest one from the 3 for an hour and paid 3 K. Her name was Sonya, if memory serves me right.

Inside the room, it was a familiar ambiance, large room, clean bed, and a large bathing area with an air mat. She asked me to lie down on the mattress, and started with a decent soapy massage which lasted for about 15 minutes. So far so good, at least in the performance. But then, things went south. She prepared the nuru gel, and poured all over me, and started rubbing it with hands. I remember they used their tongue all over the body, right from your toes up till the ears. This lady just licked my back for 2 minutes and asked me to flip. There was no rimming, no toe sucking, and no balls licking. When I asked for them, she said she has never done that! I told her she was in the wrong profession in that case.

The horror continued when she pulled out a condom and started putting it on. I asked about the blowjob, and she said she has braces and she will suck me with a condom! When I resisted, she started licking my balls gently with her tongue and within 2 minutes, again went to the condom. I lost all hope by then, asked her to wash off the gel and end the session. She offered me a massage for the rest of the hour, but I politely declined. She then cleared me up, I got ready and came out in about 30 minutes.

Never going back to Doki Doki again. Will try Aries next, and hope will be able to recover from the utter disappointment.

Will provide by 2 cents on the places I visit and women I meet through the day. Ciao!

[OxygenFresh]

Looking to join forces with fellow mongers for visits to Pimp and T-Ded 99. I confess I can't speak Thai, so I will probably not be of much help with translations LOL. Nevertheless, as the say, more the merrier. So please feel free to DM if you are here and would like to join forces as well. TIA.

[Nyezhov]

I had a quick in and out so to speak on Saturday night starting at 11.

I had one already set up, so it was just scouting.

Soi Nana. African hookers on the corner where the store closes up, a whole line up of them, ugly and pungent. I did see one mobile who was actually attractive, a young one too. The Schoolgirl on the corner of the Nana entrance was in her usual spot, heavily negotiating with an older white guy, hope he doesn't Overpay.

Cross the street were the usual nasty deaf girls, all the real "hotties" are down near the Hotels across from Lady Boy corner and Kitty corner to the Novatel, some are older Viets, there was nothing young and attractive. There was one short haired Blonde MILF and a younger fake blonde, looked to be Arab / Turk / Iran style, with a slinky body but a face that required a Burkha. There were two Burkha babes out too, and the African corner on the Landmark was packed. In fact, the crowds down on that end were huge.

I ran into Bunnys, horrible, Twister had tons of tattoo girls, Raninbow 5 had a real nice selection, unfortunately I was in a hurry. The whole Plaza was packed. To my Indian brethren: deoderant please. The plane ride back to Cambodia was like being on a Delhi train.

I was shocked at Thermae it was like a whole new lineup (probably a lot were busy) and only two or three gilrs that even caught my eye. Mostly chinese there based on language.

My "date" no longer works at Thermae but its still paying off LOL.

[Nyezhov]

I'm planning on heading to BKK next month in April for a short 3-4 day getaway after the songkran festival. I plan on staying in the DMK airport area given there are so many nice hotels at a very reasonable price compared to the ones on Sukhumvit road. A quick scan reveals hotels like 12 day residence and 7 days premium all under 5000 THB for 3-4 nights total.

Are there any good mongering establishments in the DMK neighbourhood within walking distance? Also on the look out for some legit massage shops that provide foot massages as they are my nightly favourite before going to bed. I plan on taking grab every evening to sukhumvit road to forage for punani and then again back to my hotel in the DMK area. I wonder how much would a single one way trip cost and and hopefully it would burn a hole in my wallet.I wouldn't stay out there but whatever floats your boat. Its boring, poor and industrial.

That being said, take the Redline from DMK to Bang Sue Central, then the MRT to Suk. Both should cost less than 100. Takes about 45 minutes Outbound meter about 300 in a cab. Download Grab.

[Goatscrot]

FWIW here are my thoughts.

Tulip is the 'legend', pretty much ANYTHING goes there and as many fellow punters will confirm it has a reputation for a reason. The girls vary from awful to decent (you won't find any stunners there) but you will get exceptional PSE service from pretty much all of them; however the real downside is the place is very shabby with crap decor & small rooms, but you aren't going there for the rooms so does it really matter? It's def worth a visit of you're brave enough.

Snow White & Cherry have now combined, not as PSE as Tulip (nowhere is) but they will also pretty much do anything. Girls tend to be slightly better looking than Tulip but not all of them do everything (I. E. Anal) so best ask the Mammasan what you want & she will ensure all OK. Rooms are definitely cleaner & nicer than Tulip & if you get the right girl the service is 99% of Tulips (IMHO).

Bamboo to me is the most underrated of the lot & I really don't know why? Clean rooms, nice atmosphere and some of the girls are pretty good looking IMHO. As long as you know what you want and explain in detail to the Mammasan then you will get what you are after. I've been multiple times (if you can't tell) and have never been disappointed. Bamboo is a tad more expensive than the others but it's peanuts for USD / GBP / AUD tourists so what does it matter?

Cheers & good luck.BTW, the SW and Cherry have separated. Peach is part of the Cherry empire. SW and Sky are the same owner.

[Larbmoo555]

Has anyone barfined a girl from Nana Plaza recently and can post the ST price they paid?? Specifically interested in Geisha & Billboard. I saw someone on another forum said he just got quoted 5 k ST + 1 k BF for Billboard, which would be a price increase up from 4 k ST. I also had a girl quote me 5 K at Lollipop a few days ago but I didn't clarify if she meant 4 k ST + 1 k BF or not because I had no intention of taking her out. I had assumed she meant 4 K ST + 1 K BF but the comment about Billboard got me thinking. In the absence of any recent experience, I'll go myself this weekend.

[SethMacfarlane]

I arrive to my hotel around 5 pm, I didn't really do much research on my location, just looked on agoda for a reasonable place ($50 USD / night), walking distance to Nana Plaza. Upon arrival, I realized my hotel is on soi 7/1, which worked out great. Anyway, I check in, shower and hit Dr BJ / Woodbar, as it was just steps from my hotel. I wasn't too impressed with some of the ladies that were outside but still went in. The host greets me, tells me to sit down on, he calls the line up out, about 25 ladies come in. Two different levels, ladies in red were 1000 THB and the ones in white were 800 THB. I was honestly expecting some real dogs according to what people have mentioned here, but these ladies weren't terrible. They were all early 30's to late 40's, some chubby, some small, I'the say all had kids. I go with a red dress girl. She was early 30's, about 5 ft tall, maybe 85-90 pds, nice big fake see or the cups, wore glasses. She said her name was Mawn? Like dawn but with a M at the beginning. She takes me upstairs, washes me up, she gargles mouthwash, then we get to it. I've mongered various places, but her service was honestly the best I ever had. I last about 10 minutes and bust in her mouth. I had to just lay on the seat for a minute to get myself together, one of the best nuts I had in a while. I get up, she washes us both up. I get her name and when she works (everyday she says, evenings). I forgot to mention, I paid the manager after my selection. Next, I head a soi or 2 down. I get a manicure, pedicure, foot / shoulder / head massage, and a beer for about 1000 THB. Then, I head over to Nana, get a seat at the hooters, a few drinks, and chat up Meow for a few hours. Beautiful little spinner (all the girls were smoking). Around 11 pm I head into Nana and like an idiot I go with the first bargirl that gets my attention. She takes me into what I believe was called bunny or bunny2. I ordered way to many beers and girl / staff drinks / bucket of balls. Spent about 17 k, it was fun, but won't be doing that again. I didn't bar fine a girl. I want to kick myself for doing that, I could've had three ladies from the bar. Anywho, the bar fines were 1 k for the bar and 4 k for the girl (short time, 2 hrs). Now the bargirl that sat me was cute, but obvs a little older, and had a little mommy belly, I definitely would fuck if the rate was better. Now the girls on stage ranged from ok to hooters girl hot. They were spinners, under 25, tight little asses, no plastic, and no mommy damage. I'the love to try them all. They were definitely a couple girls that you could tell were new to the game that I considered. They weren't the best dancers, their makeup and outfitters needed improvement, they shied away from eye contact, didn't smile, etc. Ultimately, I decided against it because I don't really want to teach a girl how to suck my dick or fuck, plus my bill was retarded already. I was about to leave the bar around 2 am but the mamasan and girl I was with bought me a couple more beers. I ended up out of there around 330 am, walking to my place I get snagged by a massage girl, I say fuck it, and take her. She was older, like a 5, but I really like the griminess of fucking street meat. She gave me a lame massage, turns me over, she sucks and fucks me till I nut. I pay 2 k, hit soi 7/1 for some takeout, and I was in bed by 6 am. My first day was a blast but I got a month here, going to have to slow my roll a bit.

[Steve 9696]

100% agree with Seth below. The Wood Bar ladies are past their prime yes. But some still attractive. Waaaay better than the hags at Kasalong say. And their BJ skills are on point. You will def have one of the best BJs of your life. Just close your eyes and enjoy!

[Crater77]

Coincidence that I too started my Thai trip with wood bar though on 3/25.

Went like 7 ish. Had couple of drinks before heading there.

Moment I reached there were 25 ladies outside. I went in and holy fuck everyone came in for the lineup.

I found all of them to be below par and not a single stunner. However I felt bad and instead of skipping decided to choose a younger looking chick with glasses. Her name was Aimee (I think).

I did enquired about 36 number on their website. They told me she is gone for the day but will come tomorrow and took my phone number.

BJ process was exactly what has defined. They take you upstairs then cleanup. I also got a beer so was drinking while she cleaned and then gave a nice blowjob.

I would rate BJ a good 8/10.

It took me 5-10 minutes to come. I wanted to try for experience but I won't be going there again. Below average girls.

Had my dinner and ended up with 2 glass of wine over couple of scotch and beer.

Decided I cannot drink more.

I still had time to kill and I wanted a stunner. First went to soi cowboy and took a stroll and boy they do try to lure you in.

Decided to go back to thermae as my hotel is 4 min walk from there.

Now lot of people have mentioned how thermae is oriented more towards Asian customers and others and westerners gets a cold shoulder.

I am neither Asian nor westerner but I am brown guy from states. I was also dressed in shorts and t shirts.

So 90% of women will be in you irrespective of your skin. I was greeted and pursues by lot of women.

However 10% women ignored me and most of these were 20 year olds. One in particularly just said NO and. Answered everything as No.

I spend good 30 minutes there and talked with few. Finally picked one. 3 k st. I didn't bargained.

We walked holding hands. Which in itself was an experience.

I am staying in a nice hotel, so we went to room, gave her beer and she took shower and had a good time.

She said she will give CBJ. I said ok since I didn't clarified.

But I fucked her hard. Very hard as I was drunk and it took me quiet some time (20 plus minute) to cum.

Now she was 35 but I would have preferred someone younger and a stunner. I have also downloaded and bought premium for TF. Looking for 20 year olds. Many inbound and outbound happening but most likely will try one from TF for one of the afternoon ones.

Right now I want some stunner. So planning to go to soapies.

Regards,

Crater77.

[UglyAzzMan]

Coincidence that I too started my Thai trip with wood bar though on 3/25.

Went like 7 ish. Had couple of drinks before heading there.

Moment I reached there were 25 ladies outside. I went in and holy fuck everyone came in for the lineup.

I found all of them to be below par and not a single stunner. However I felt bad and instead of skipping decided to choose a younger looking chick with glasses. Her name was Aimee (I think).

I did enquired about 36 number on their website. They told me she is gone for the day but will come tomorrow and took my phone number.

BJ process was exactly what has defined. They take you upstairs then cleanup. I also got a beer so was drinking while she cleaned and then gave a nice blowjob.

I would rate BJ a good 8/10.

It took me 5-10 minutes to come. I wanted to try for experience but I won't be going there again. Below average girls.

Had my dinner and ended up with 2 glass of wine over couple of scotch and beer.

Decided I cannot drink more.

I still had time to kill and I wanted a stunner. First went to soi cowboy and took a stroll and boy they do try to lure you in.

Decided to go back to thermae as my hotel is 4 min walk from there.

Now lot of people have mentioned how thermae is oriented more towards Asian customers and others and westerners gets a cold shoulder.

I am neither Asian nor westerner but I am brown guy from states. I was also dressed in shorts and t shirts.

So 90% of women will be in you irrespective of your skin. I was greeted and pursues by lot of women.

However 10% women ignored me and most of these were 20 year olds. One in particularly just said NO and. Answered everything as No.

I spend good 30 minutes there and talked with few. Finally picked one. 3 k st. I didn't bargained.

We walked holding hands. Which in itself was an experience.

I am staying in a nice hotel, so we went to room, gave her beer and she took shower and had a good time.

She said she will give CBJ. I said ok since I didn't clarified.

But I fucked her hard. Very hard as I was drunk and it took me quiet some time (20 plus minute) to cum.

Now she was 35 but I would have preferred someone younger and a stunner. I have also downloaded and bought premium for TF. Looking for 20 year olds. Many inbound and outbound happening but most likely will try one from TF for one of the afternoon ones.

Right now I want some stunner. So planning to go to soapies.

Regards,

Crater77.Want stunner but ended up with 35 year old. Him being Brown.

It's all in the Details Fellas.

[UglyAzzMan]

I arrive to my hotel around 5 pm, I didn't really do much research on my location, just looked on agoda for a reasonable place ($50 USD / night), walking distance to Nana Plaza. Upon arrival, I realized my hotel is on soi 7/1, which worked out great. Anyway, I check in, shower and hit Dr BJ / Woodbar, as it was just steps from my hotel. I wasn't too impressed with some of the ladies that were outside but still went in. The host greets me, tells me to sit down on, he calls the line up out, about 25 ladies come in. Two different levels, ladies in red were 1000 THB and the ones in white were 800 THB. I was honestly expecting some real dogs according to what people have mentioned here, but these ladies weren't terrible. They were all early 30's to late 40's, some chubby, some small, I'the say all had kids. I go with a red dress girl. She was early 30's, about 5 ft tall, maybe 85-90 pds, nice big fake see or the cups, wore glasses. She said her name was Mawn? Like dawn but with a M at the beginning. She takes me upstairs, washes me up, she gargles mouthwash, then we get to it. I've mongered various places, but her service was honestly the best I ever had. I last about 10 minutes and bust in her mouth. I had to just lay on the seat for a minute to get myself together, one of the best nuts I had in a while. I get up, she washes us both up. I get her name and when she works (everyday she says, evenings). I forgot to mention, I paid the manager after my selection. Next, I head a soi or 2 down. I get a manicure, pedicure, foot / shoulder / head massage, and a beer for about 1000 THB. Then, I head over to Nana, get a seat at the hooters, a few drinks, and chat up Meow for a few hours. Beautiful little spinner (all the girls were smoking). Around 11 pm I head into Nana and like an idiot I go with the first bargirl that gets my attention. She takes me into what I believe was called bunny or bunny2. I ordered way to many beers and girl / staff drinks / bucket of balls. Spent about 17 k, it was fun, but won't be doing that again. I didn't bar fine a girl. I want to kick myself for doing that, I could've had three ladies from the bar. Anywho, the bar fines were 1 k for the bar and 4 k for the girl (short time, 2 hrs). Now the bargirl that sat me was cute, but obvs a little older, and had a little mommy belly, I definitely would fuck if the rate was better. Now the girls on stage ranged from ok to hooters girl hot. They were spinners, under 25, tight little asses, no plastic, and no mommy damage. I'the love to try them all. They were definitely a couple girls that you could tell were new to the game that I considered. They weren't the best dancers, their makeup and outfitters needed improvement, they shied away from eye contact, didn't smile, etc. Ultimately, I decided against it because I don't really want to teach a girl how to suck my dick or fuck, plus my bill was retarded already. I was about to leave the bar around 2 am but the mamasan and girl I was with bought me a couple more beers. I ended up out of there around 330 am, walking to my place I get snagged by a massage girl, I say fuck it, and take her. She was older, like a 5, but I really like the griminess of fucking street meat. She gave me a lame massage, turns me over, she sucks and fucks me till I nut. I pay 2 k, hit soi 7/1 for some takeout, and I was in bed by 6 am. My first day was a blast but I got a month here, going to have to slow my roll a bit.600 $ is insane. No I don't care. Just saying.

[JohnnieX]

I was in Thailand with a friend a few days ago (reports coming in soon), he barfined a nice young girl at Billboard (goes by the name Sky); 4 K ST and 1 K BF, plus 500 or so for the room.


Has anyone barfined a girl from Nana Plaza recently and can post the ST price they paid?? Specifically interested in Geisha & Billboard. I saw someone on another forum said he just got quoted 5 k ST + 1 k BF for Billboard, which would be a price increase up from 4 k ST. I also had a girl quote me 5 K at Lollipop a few days ago but I didn't clarify if she meant 4 k ST + 1 k BF or not because I had no intention of taking her out. I had assumed she meant 4 K ST + 1 K BF but the comment about Billboard got me thinking. In the absence of any recent experience, I'll go myself this weekend.

[DeepThoughts7]

Want stunner but ended up with 35 year old. Him being Brown.

It's all in the Details Fellas.Hi, I wanted to get some clarity from fellow forum members. I keep reading conflicting messages about providers refusing Indian and African descent gentlemen. For example, in the original message I got the impression that a non-Asian / non-Caucasian man might have some luck at Therme. But the above quoted reply points to the more limited choice. Most posts I have read imply it would be completely stupid to go to Thermae if you are not of Asian descent.

My question is more about high end soapy massages or escort services. If a non-Asian / non-Caucasian gentleman goes to a soapy massage, will he be turned away outright, or will the lady refuse to see him once he picks her? I was referring to establishments like Poseidon, Tara Entertainment, etc. One person I know reached out to an agency in Thailand and they ghosted him completely, once he told them he was brown. At least with a freelancer you will know if she is interested, by her tone, or her simply telling you no.

I want to politely mention, that I am not trying to start any type of back and forth on background or cultural heritage, or offend anyone in any way. Rather I would like to kindly please request some guidance and get some other members experiences and thoughts. Thank you.

[Crater77]

Well I can't change your opinion but point I made was that 90% of women.

At thermae were reciprocating to me a brown guy.

Unfortunately your UglyAzz read only the part of stunner and 35 year old.

In short I didn't feel any discrimination. Uglyazz is discouraging people.

10% rejected me and I rejected all of remaining 90% but one.

Be respectful and smile and you will get equal interest. However I also want to mention very few younger girls are there at thermae (based on 2 visits).


Want stunner but ended up with 35 year old. Him being Brown.

It's all in the Details Fellas.

[MoonShot]

Hi, I wanted to get some clarity from fellow forum members. I keep reading conflicting messages about providers refusing Indian and African descent gentlemen. For example, in the original message I got the impression that a non-Asian / non-Caucasian man might have some luck at Therme. But the above quoted reply points to the more limited choice. Most posts I have read imply it would be completely stupid to go to Thermae if you are not of Asian descent.

My question is more about high end soapy massages or escort services. If a non-Asian / non-Caucasian gentleman goes to a soapy massage, will he be turned away outright, or will the lady refuse to see him once he picks her? I was referring to establishments like Poseidon, Tara Entertainment, etc. One person I know reached out to an agency in Thailand and they ghosted him completely, once he told them he was brown. At least with a freelancer you will know if she is interested, by her tone, or her simply telling you no.

I want to politely mention, that I am not trying to start any type of back and forth on background or cultural heritage, or offend anyone in any way. Rather I would like to kindly please request some guidance and get some other members experiences and thoughts. Thank you.You need to come over and find out yourself. Now you mention conflicting messages from this website but just because someone posts a message doesn't mean it's true. Anyone can post a message and say anything. I always take these posts with a grain of salt. Reality is what you experience yourself. Keeping that in mind, I would say that generally massage parlors really don't care about the race of a client, only about his money.

[SoberHans69]

Well I can't change your opinion but point I made was that 90% of women.

At thermae were reciprocating to me a brown guy.

Unfortunately your UglyAzz read only the part of stunner and 35 year old.

In short I didn't feel any discrimination. Uglyazz is discouraging people.

10% rejected me and I rejected all of remaining 90% but one.

Be respectful and smile and you will get equal interest. However I also want to mention very few younger girls are there at thermae (based on 2 visits).He's just a troll who has been banned multiple times, ignore him.

[DeepakSa]

Great post. And yes, I agree. I too had some remarkably great experience with streetwalkers.

One question, if I may. How do you recognize if the girl is from Vietnam or PRC or other eastern countries. I always get confused.


I had experience with streetwalkers and prefer them to the girls in the clubs. They're a mix of pros and amateurs, but I've had good luck with amateurs who I found near Soi 21, away from Thermae. These were college students, store clerks, and one who worked at the duty free store at the airport. I had multiple sessions with one store clerk who worked at Big C, and the airport worker wanted to be my girlfriend after 3 sessions. I would suggest checking out the streetwalkers away from Thermae and Nana to find amateurs. It was good to have a reliable girl I could meet on the weekends when I was off work, and not feel rushed during the session. We would often meet at a predetermined intersection and take a taxi to one of the love hotels to spend an hour or two of fun.
For the girls, they have a regular life and job, but just don't make a lot of money so the sessions we have together helps them out a lot. Also, since they're regular girls, there's less chance they're fucking 3-4 guys each day to pay the rent. Meeting a girl once a week would double their income, so we're both benefitting from the sessions. Your experience may differ, but the best times I had in Bangkok were with amateur street walkers.

[Edward Q]

Well, two nights. But couldn't resist. Stayed near Terminal 21 so went to Soi Cowboy first. Overwhelmed by all the attention I got. Of course, everyone gets attention. I was thinking that my age, dress, look might dissuade the working girls, but I felt no judgement. I'm a white guy in my 60's, baseball cap, cargo shorts and t-shirt. Regardless, I was treated like a prince as I walked down the street. Great ego boost. Found a girl in minutes. 3 K to the girl. 700 barfine. 400 room. One glance at a condom, but I said No and that was that. Great experience all around and nutted inside, which I rarely do. Finished the night with a steak at the Irish bar at the end of the street to the left. Next night I went in the other direction, to Nana. Some comments on the forum suggest a guy needs to dress up all fancy-like to attract more girls. Not true in my case. Again, lots of attention. I got to Nana too early, but was interested in drinking first anyway. Met a girl in the bar to the right of Nana on the street. She looked amazing. Sat and drank. She guessed my age correctly on the first go. I attempted to guess her age, saying 25. She said, "No. I'm 41. " Unbelievable. Has a kid and is supporting her since she's divorced. After a nice conversation via telephone translator, she informed me that she does not have sex with men. I said I understood. It was still too early for me, and she really was nice to talk with. Some kind of chemistry began to form. I imagine if I pressed a bit with repeated visits, something could develop. Very beautiful and I'm strictly a "young girl" kind of guy, but thought she could easily become GF material with time. Nice to fantasize anyway. Said adios and went to drink at Stumble. Watching the procession of girls arrive to Nana, each showing their IDs as they entered. A real parade and gave me a good idea of what the talent was going to be tonight. It was only a little after 7:00 and perhaps too early. But after drinking a while, I wanted to partake. Walking through the plaza this early, there were very few places up and running. But I found Kino, second floor in the corner by the steps. A young thing dancing near the entrance. Something about her made me think of a former student of mine. I knew Asian girls can be smaller and younger than their actual age, and the security checking the IDs outside will keep out underage girls. But this one could easily have been years younger than her professed 23. Braces complete with rubber bands and a sort of awkward face that seemed like it had yet to develop into the beauty I expected her to become. I got a good vibe based on her smile, so I told her what I wanted to do with her and she agreed. Barfined her for 1000 K and paid her 3000 K. We walked down the street to a ST hotel. Stripped and showered. Tiny little tits, which played into my fantasy. She was totally into it, tight and playful. The girls I've been with in Thailand have no trouble sucking with no thought of stopping. I directed her below and she smiled and excelled with superior talent at rimming. Again, no rush to stop. And she knew how to use her tongue. The freedom of knowing in advance there will be no condom discussion was amazing. The only thing she asked was that I not cum on her face. Mouth was perfectly fine as an alternative. So much fun to be with. Tipped her 500 because she was cute and deserved it. Her name is pronounced "On" and works at Kino. If you see her think "Ugly Betty" but in a package that fits a Thai girl. If I lived in Bangkok, she'd be a regular. These two days in BKK really capped a wonderful 2-week trip and renewed my faith in Asian girls. Humbly yours, EQ.

[Nyezhov]

Great post. And yes, I agree. I too had some remarkably great experience with streetwalkers.

One question, if I may. How do you recognize if the girl is from Vietnam or PRC or other eastern countries. I always get confused.If you can't tell, ask. Where you from baby?

[Shikhar10]

If a non-Asian / non-Caucasian gentleman goes to a soapy massage, will he be turned away outright, or will the lady refuse to see him once he picks her? I was referring to establishments like Poseidon, Tara Entertainment, etc.I am 31/ M / Indian. I will not call myself handsome.

I have been to La Belle and was not turned away. I went around 1 PM. There were at most 5-7 women sitting in the fishbowl. Almost all of them smiled warmly at me. There were a few Japanese / Korean businessmen already sitting there. There was only one XL tier lady and she was sitting with them. For what it is worth, she too smiled at me.

The papasan passed me the rate list. I called a lady from the fishbowl. I had not spoken with her for more than a minute before papasan asked me if I really intended to take her. He said someone else also wanted her after I had already called her. The motherfucker acted like he was doing me a favor by not pulling the lady away from me.

The lady herself was nice. She was Tier Dee (ISG is not letting me write just the letter), 5500 baht. Very cute. I found her more attractive than the XL tier lady. She spoke good English and gave decent BBBJ, CFS. She looked surprised when I tipped her 500 baht.

I will recommend choosing a lady that does not avoid eye contact and smiles at you. You are less likely to receive bad service. Hope this helps.

[SethMacfarlane]

600 $ is insane. No I don't care. Just saying.You won't get any arguments from me, it was crazy but a good time.

[Newton York]

EarthQuake! Holy Moses! I have some doubts on whether any of it is real. Or if it's all AI. But since it's Myanmar, and no one cares about Myanmar, then it's ok I guess. It just sucks that a building collapsed in Bangkok. But shit like that doesn't happen in Bangkok. It just doesn't. Not in paradise. Say it ain't so. I don't believe it.

[Newton York]

By lucifers balls! A building collapsed into a giant ball of smoke and debris. And no one is talking about it? What do all of you boots on the ground think? How did it affect you? How has it affected the working girls of Nana? Earthquake tremors don't happen in Bangkok everyday, just sayin.

[EihTooms]

By lucifers balls! A building collapsed into a giant ball of smoke and debris. And no one is talking about it? What do all of you boots on the ground think? How did it affect you? How has it affected the working girls of Nana? Earthquake tremors don't happen in Bangkok everyday, just sayin.I am on a very high floor of a condo complex that was built a couple of decades ago and there was no structural damage at all. There wasn't even a momentary interruption of electricity, water or internet service. However, I have heard from guys who live in more modern buildings that they had to evacuate and move to a hotel because ceilings were collapsing. If that is how it shapes up for many others it will be interesting to see if this Thai passion to live in the most modern building they can afford rather than one as ancient as 20 years old gets flipped around and changes the market.

Yes, it was sad that the 33 story building under construction collapsed and killed several construction workers. But I think that was the most tragic earthquake-related event in all of Thailand. The death and damage in Myanmar, the epicenter of the quake, was far worse. In fact, I suspect most if not all of the construction workers who died in the collapsed Bangkok building were from Myanmar. Very sad.

As far as how it affected the girls goes, Nana Plaza was closed for that one night. A couple of other Soi 4 bars were closed for that one night. I don't know about Soi Cowboy, the Soi 7 bars or Patpong because I didn't go there. Auto and pedestrian traffic was horrendous that night because the skytrain and mrt subway were both closed for the night.

Oh, one interesting thing about the girls; within an hour of the earthquake I sent out a "You ok"? Line and Instagram message to 5 of my most often repeated Freelancers and gogo girls. All of them replied within a few minutes with the news that they were fine but just startled by it. All of them asked how I was doing back. None of them took the opportunity to hit me up for any money or help to send to their family in the province, make up for missing work or pay for the family water buffalo's mental health treatment to deal with the trauma. Nor have they done so the next day. Which might surprise many here.

Just sayin'.

[DeepThoughts7]

I am 31/ M / Indian. I will not call myself handsome.

I have been to La Belle and was not turned away. I went around 1 PM. There were at most 5-7 women sitting in the fishbowl. Almost all of them smiled warmly at me. There were a few Japanese / Korean businessmen already sitting there. There was only one XL tier lady and she was sitting with them. For what it is worth, she too smiled at me.

The papasan passed me the rate list. I called a lady from the fishbowl. I had not spoken with her for more than a minute before papasan asked me if I really intended to take her. He said someone else also wanted her after I had already called her. The motherfucker acted like he was doing me a favor by not pulling the lady away from me.

The lady herself was nice. She was Tier Dee (ISG is not letting me write just the letter), 5500 baht. Very cute. I found her more attractive than the XL tier lady. She spoke good English and gave decent BBBJ, CFS. She looked surprised when I tipped her 500 baht.

I will recommend choosing a lady that does not avoid eye contact and smiles at you. You are less likely to receive bad service. Hope this helps.Hi Messrs. Shikhar10 and MoonShot. I appreciate both of your feedback and thoughts. Yes, you both are correct, it is better to just go and experience it yourself. Moreover, I have seen some videos of soapy massages in Pattaya, and there seemed to be a lot of men of various background in there. I will go to the high end places La Belle, Poseidon, etc. I have also read that the escort services are nothing special so I will avoid them.

Have a wonderful weekend!

[UglyAzzMan]

I am on a very high floor of a condo complex that was built a couple of decades ago and there was no structural damage at all. There wasn't even a momentary interruption of electricity, water or internet service. However, I have heard from guys who live in more modern buildings that they had to evacuate and move to a hotel because ceilings were collapsing. If that is how it shapes up for many others it will be interesting to see if this Thai passion to live in the most modern building they can afford rather than one as ancient as 20 years old gets flipped around and changes the market.

Yes, it was sad that the 33 story building under construction collapsed and killed several construction workers. But I think that was the most tragic earthquake-related event in all of Thailand. The death and damage in Myanmar, the epicenter of the quake, was far worse. In fact, I suspect most if not all of the construction workers who died in the collapsed Bangkok building were from Myanmar. Very sad.

As far as how it affected the girls goes, Nana Plaza was closed for that one night. A couple of other Soi 4 bars were closed for that one night. I don't know about Soi Cowboy, the Soi 7 bars or Patpong because I didn't go there. Auto and pedestrian traffic was horrendous that night because the skytrain and mrt subway were both closed for the night.

Oh, one interesting thing about the girls; within an hour of the earthquake I sent out a "You ok"? Line and Instagram message to 5 of my most often repeated Freelancers and gogo girls. All of them replied within a few minutes with the news that they were fine but just startled by it. All of them asked how I was doing back. None of them took the opportunity to hit me up for any money or help to send to their family in the province, make up for missing work or pay for the family water buffalo's mental health treatment to deal with the trauma. Nor have they done so the next day. Which might surprise many here.

Just sayin'.Not to get Political but I don't think Thailand choosing China over America is a good thing.

[Crater77]

Just an FYI I am done with my Thai trip.

Day 3 started quiet early for me as I had planned day outing (unrelated to mongering). Started at 6 am and ended at 2 PM. (traffic took like 2 hours).

Anyways I was tired but I headed to Phom Phrong (around 5 PM) and I knew I had to go to addict. Right across the alley from Mango. Their girls wear Purple Uniform and had looked attractive on my previous visit.

Went straight and talked with mamasan (her name is Kate). She quickly called the line up and started selling me on some special 1800 for 40 minutes.

I must say one of the best lineup among 3-4 I visited.

All the ladies were very interested. Mamasan is pretty good with english. I told I want someone young. Like 22. She told me will 25 work? I said yes. She said something in thai and 4-5 of the ladies sat down. Still had 10-12 standing. I somehow made sure I check each without any hurries.

Told mamasan to tell everyone to sit and I will choose. She suggested me Maphrang (big boobs). I choose Nano (5 feet 1 inch) very young and was making an eye contact. She is 25.

I like doing LT with girls in my hotel room. So told mamasan if I like her then I will do LT as well. So I went with 40 minutes 1800.

Things started with shower and she not only just washed me but put lot of soap made johnny hard and then soaped herself and we did lot of rubbing in the shower. If I would have fucked her without "see" then I doubt she would have said No.

After 5 minutes of so of kissing and making it hard and rubbing. I got dired and laid down for massage. She did oil massage for like 10-15 minutes and then on the flip started with BBBJ. It was amazing and lasted a long time. She understands English better than most and I asked her to make eye contact during BJ which she obliged.

Post this went to WOT, Doggy and then Missionary and lot of DFK and came in.

BJ - 10/10.

Attitude -10/10.

Face - 8/10.

Figure. Boobs just the right size and Ass is like 6/10.

Experience very amazing. I made a decision that I will LT her to my room for 120 minutes.

I do not do BBFS so I never ask but I think she might have gone for it.

Gave her 500 as tip. Went downstairs and told mamasan to respond and connect with me on Addict Line for LT (outcall). Asked to bring maphrang and talked with her. She too seems a good choice.

Later that day I did Gogo in Soi and Nana and bar fined a lady from Soi cowboy. Will share about that later.

Also Earthquake did fucked up lot of things next day. MP's were closed. Most of them atleast Addict and Snow white too (with some ladies just hanging out for Free lancing). Nana Plaza was closed on Friday night because of Earthquake.

More later.

[EihTooms]

Not to get Political but I don't think Thailand choosing China over America is a good thing.It's funny you should mention that because the exact same thought was crossing my mind throughout the entirety of the earthquake.

[Newton York]

Just an FYI I am done with my Thai trip.

Day 3 started quiet early for me as I had planned day outing (unrelated to mongering). Started at 6 am and ended at 2 PM. (traffic took like 2 hours).

Anyways I was tired but I headed to Phom Phrong (around 5 PM) and I knew I had to go to addict. Right across the alley from Mango. Their girls wear Purple Uniform and had looked attractive on my previous visit.

Went straight and talked with mamasan (her name is Kate). She quickly called the line up and started selling me on some special 1800 for 40 minutes.

I must say one of the best lineup among 3-4 I visited.

All the ladies were very interested. Mamasan is pretty good with english. I told I want someone young. Like 22. She told me will 25 work? I said yes. She said something in thai and 4-5 of the ladies sat down. Still had 10-12 standing. I somehow made sure I check each without any hurries.

Told mamasan to tell everyone to sit and I will choose. She suggested me Maphrang (big boobs). I choose Nano (5 feet 1 inch) very young and was making an eye contact. She is 25.

I like doing LT with girls in my hotel room. So told mamasan if I like her then I will do LT as well. So I went with 40 minutes 1800.

Things started with shower and she not only just washed me but put lot of soap made johnny hard and then soaped herself and we did lot of rubbing in the shower. If I would have fucked her without "see" then I doubt she would have said No.

After 5 minutes of so of kissing and making it hard and rubbing. I got dired and laid down for massage. She did oil massage for like 10-15 minutes and then on the flip started with BBBJ. It was amazing and lasted a long time. She understands English better than most and I asked her to make eye contact during BJ which she obliged.

Post this went to WOT, Doggy and then Missionary and lot of DFK and came in.

BJ - 10/10.

Attitude -10/10.

Face - 8/10.

Figure. Boobs just the right size and Ass is like 6/10.

Experience very amazing. I made a decision that I will LT her to my room for 120 minutes.

I do not do BBFS so I never ask but I think she might have gone for it.

Gave her 500 as tip. Went downstairs and told mamasan to respond and connect with me on Addict Line for LT (outcall). Asked to bring maphrang and talked with her. She too seems a good choice.

Later that day I did Gogo in Soi and Nana and bar fined a lady from Soi cowboy. Will share about that later.

Also Earthquake did fucked up lot of things next day. MP's were closed. Most of them atleast Addict and Snow white too (with some ladies just hanging out for Free lancing). Nana Plaza was closed on Friday night because of Earthquake.

More later.I knew it! If the quake was bad enough to collapse a building, then certainly other places in Bangkok would have been affected. No one here is reporting on any of it all even though you all live here boots on the ground and all. It sucks and not in a good way, when the massage joints are closed, even for one day.

[HorseTrader]

Not to get Political but I don't think Thailand choosing China over America is a good thing.


It's funny you should mention that because the exact same thought was crossing my mind throughout the entirety of the earthquake.You are thinking of the old USA, that nation no longer exists.

The new USA could cut a deal. Perhaps recovery help in exchange for Koh Phuket, which will be renamed "The Riviera of the Andaman".

[OlgaVaz]

Spent three days in Bangkok. Had only around noon times to monger. Stopped in Butterfly, Snow White, Tulip, and settled for Cherry first two days. Despite saying they are opened at 10 am, there may only be 1 or 2 ladies until 1 pm. First Cherry attendant I selected was Bovi. She is cute but has some skin issues. Not really the best experience, though she tried. The second day I chose First (that's her name). SHe was more sensual both in the shower and bed. I thought Cherry was a PSE type of joint but got BBBJ but no other bare service. Third day at Tulip, there was only Nadia, which was PSE as expected. She tried to make me cum a second round but I am too old to make it happen. Was having a noodle lunch right after and got caught in the earthquake. Was near where the sky bridges cracked and pool water came splashing down. Took 2. 5 hours to get my luggage from the hotel and another 2. 5 to get to the airport. Missed my flight. My third 7+ magnitude quake.

[HorseTrader]

Stopped in Butterfly, Snow White, Tulip, and settled for Cherry first two days. Despite saying they are opened at 10 am, there may only be 1 or 2 ladies until 1 pm. First Cherry attendant I selected was Bovi. She is cute but has some skin issues. Not really the best experience, though she tried. The second day I chose First (that's her name). SHe was more sensual both in the shower and bed. I thought Cherry was a PSE type of joint but got BBBJ but no other bare service.If you want BBFSCIP at the Soi 24 shops, ask mamasan before selecting your girl. She may or may not offer it, if available, there will be a smaller selection, typically about 30% of the full crew. Some punters ask the girl directly, I don't do that. Typically the BBFSCIP is an additional 2000 baht paid directly to the girl in the room.

[EihTooms]

If you want BBFSCIP at the Soi 24 shops, ask mamasan before selecting your girl. She may or may not offer it, if available, there will be a smaller selection, typically about 30% of the full crew. Some punters ask the girl directly, I don't do that. Typically the BBFSCIP is an additional 2000 baht paid directly to the girl in the room.Not all mamasans are created equal. Some don't know anything like that about their girls. Most mamasans only know how to say, "Up to the girl" when you ask them such a question.

Well, duh, of course it is up to the girl. It is up to the girl right up to the point of entry and beyond even if she said Yes to BBFSCIP in the line up area or in the room.

Same with Anal.

Same with BBBJCIM.

Same with everything.

The question is which girls have indicated to you, the mamasan, that they will accept BBFSCIP with some customers, likely for an additional charge. Or don't those lazy mamasans ever talk to their girls about such sexual matters.

A mamasan who knows or at least can lead you to the most likely candidates is worth her weight in gold. And there are some. Not only in those Soi 24 shops but also in gogo bars and other venues. Not many. But some. We just have to ask in order to find out which ones earn their pay (and deserve a tip) and which ones don't.

[Oterri]

It used be rare to come across Viet girls in Bangkok. Once in a while, an odd one but last night I ran into soooooooooo many freelancers from Vietnam. What's with this influx?

[Crater77]

EQ did rattled lot of things. First lot of folks staying in high rise were scared to go back. So they were all down standing in streets.

Another thing I realized after talking to most thais is that they do not get EQ's. So this was their first major experience and it was a strong one.

So because of this I saw hotel staff sitting out for 3-4 hours.

Major traffic jam as the stopped BTS and it was very congested with all traffic stuck. So bars that were open remained open but all MP's, nana and soi that open like 3 pmll till 8 pm decided to skip / stay closed.

My guess is people were unable to make it because of congestion and traffic so the establishments decided to close.

In fact Thermae was also closed. Many (more than regular few) FL Were standing out to be picked. I did scored a chick from there as it was my last night and I had walked to Nana and realized it was close. So on my way back I checked the FL's on the street.


I knew it! If the quake was bad enough to collapse a building, then certainly other places in Bangkok would have been affected. No one here is reporting on any of it all even though you all live here boots on the ground and all. It sucks and not in a good way, when the massage joints are closed, even for one day.

[Ranvir 226]

You are thinking of the old USA, that nation no longer exists.

The new USA could cut a deal. Perhaps recovery help in exchange for Koh Phuket, which will be renamed "The Riviera of the Andaman".Once went to siam Reap, international airport, very very huge, made by China, there are approx 30 gates, and everyday there are just 30 flights. The present infrastructure is used to just 5 percent capacity. Now poor Cambodia has to pay back every pie. In my opinion, they will not able to do it in next 100 years. So the country will just become slave of China. Other countries may also be doing similar things. But this I saw with my own eyes. Difficult to bat for China.

[TConor]

Once went to siam Reap, international airport, very very huge, made by China, there are approx 30 gates, and everyday there are just 30 flights. The present infrastructure is used to just 5 percent capacity. Now poor Cambodia has to pay back every pie. In my opinion, they will not able to do it in next 100 years. So the country will just become slave of China. Other countries may also be doing similar things. But this I saw with my own eyes. Difficult to bat for China.I have seen it in African countries, too. Corrupt gov't official make deals that only lines their pockets and the country suffers. Take that building that collapsed in BKK the other day. Had China written all over it.

[Crater77]

I had already done MP (Addict) like in the evening. Had few beers and headed out to Nana Plaza. I had seen youtube videos but wanted to check the place out.

Reached and started from firstfloor took a round. It was 8 pm and lot of ladies were standing out. Mamasan's were also out. Lot of fruits, water and hydration setups all over the place. I realized I am little early. Any how I went to top floor butterflies and went in and ordered a beer.

They had 2 stages and had 6 ladies each dancing. Let me correct moving and maybe 1 or 2 really dancing. I and maybe one more were the only customers.

All the ladies on stage were shitty. I would rate them all below 5. In fact the ladies outside that lured me in were like 7's and 8. Drank just one beer and enquired with mamasan if I am early and she said a little. She told me sit and relax as 10 pm is when action will start.

Came out of butterflies with my beer and went on a stroll to check the ladies outside other gogo bars. Geisha had some stunners. It was too little alchohol and too early for me to barfine a girl but I spotted few and decided to visit them next day.

My hotel was 4 min walking to thermae, 12 to soi cowboy and say 16 minutes to Nana.

I decided to walk back to my hotel. Bought another beer on my way and stopped at bar below the thermae hotel to have few more and play some pool.

Finally I was ready and decided time to sit, drink and enjoy gogo. Went to soi cowboy and as usual I was checking the ladies and they of course were trying to get you in.

Went straight to Crazy House (since Everything Thai says it has the best girls). I was drunk just right and when I started going in. The two ladies asked me to talk to this another guy who said entry fee of 500 Bhat. Normally I do pay cover entry in US for strip clubs. It was not a big deal. I however asked when did the entry fee started? Does it include drinks? The guy was bad at english.

I was pissed.

I took the money out the bouncer or whosoever that guy was leaned his hand to take the money and then I said I will not give you any of this money. I gave him a virtual Fuck You and walked to the soi cowboy place.

I was drunk right and he just pissed me and I wanted to give him that virtual F you. I know you pay entry fee at levels but Crazy House is like a working girl house. Entry fee for that. No way.

Went back to soi cowboy and other place where no ladies were outside was Baccara. I know Everything Thai has this as other recommendations.

They have a bar outside. I asked for an energy drink or water but the waitress said no water. Drink and they got me a brezeer.

Inside was totally crazy. No place to sit. They had like 20 girls on stage and another 10-15 running around and hanging with clients in back. No space to sit. I went a level up. They had another 15 girls up there. Found a seat and then started observing.

Mamasan was occupied the waitress came to me with rate card. It has BR, ST rate and one drink etc.

Tipped her and asked to come back after 20 minutes. Now girls here were indeed 7's and some 8's. Too many choices. Some yellow, some orange and some black and some were in the school girl plaid skirts. I spent 20 minutes and then came down to choose. One of the ladies pretty decent joined me and started rubbing me. She was ok but I had my eyes on this 8. Super nice body. I told her to get her. So now we were 3. Ordered the drink for the first lady and the second lady ordered 2 shots for herself. I was pacing myself slowly as there was a good chance that I will get drunk.

The waitress found me after another 10 minutes and started telling me that she too wants a drink. I ignored her.

Had a fun time with both the ladies. I decide to barfine the second lady. Gave some 4300 (ST+ Bar fine + 2 drinks). She said she will change and come. The other girl kept company and saying she can do threesome. She was ready to tag along and made me hard. I told her next time.

Finally lady came in cute dress with heels. She had the right makeup nothing too jazzy. She said she was 29.

While taking her out all the greedy waitresses came. So I tipped 4 of them 20 bhats. I was drunk right to not mind them asking for tips and bringing tip jar in front of me.

I told the lady my hotel is 10 min walk and it is nice one. So lets go there instead of short term. Took a taxi went to my hotel I had scotch in my room made a drink for her and myself and then showered together.

Did the cleanup and started the action. BBBJ, WOT, Doggy, Spooning. You name it and she did. Service was great.

If I drink the right amount I last pretty longer. If I drink little more then I take little longer because have to take breaks in between. We actually did lot of foreplay and it was nice fuck.

Then finished the drink and showered. Her English was not that great but told her she can stay LT and I will pay. She told that she cannot as she has work in the morning at 9 am in Asoke. Plus her regular day job.

Gave her 200 for her ride back. I would have rated her great but I will call her good because her pussy was super loose. I had to ask her to squeeze to make it tight for me to cum.

Experience 9/10.

[PunjabiPrince]

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[Newton York]

It used be rare to come across Viet girls in Bangkok. Once in a while, an odd one but last night I ran into soooooooooo many freelancers from Vietnam. What's with this influx?Viet chicks in Bangkok? An influx? Hmmm, sounds good. Maybe a bit of a generalization, but how are they in general? More demure? Even more pliable? Less predatory?

Hey, bolding text really works

[JPLove]

Hi, I wanted to get some clarity from fellow forum members. I keep reading conflicting messages about providers refusing Indian and African descent gentlemen. For example, in the original message I got the impression that a non-Asian / non-Caucasian man might have some luck at Therme. But the above quoted reply points to the more limited choice. Most posts I have read imply it would be completely stupid to go to Thermae if you are not of Asian descent.

My question is more about high end soapy massages or escort services. If a non-Asian / non-Caucasian gentleman goes to a soapy massage, will he be turned away outright, or will the lady refuse to see him once he picks her? I was referring to establishments like Poseidon, Tara Entertainment, etc. One person I know reached out to an agency in Thailand and they ghosted him completely, once he told them he was brown. At least with a freelancer you will know if she is interested, by her tone, or her simply telling you no.

I want to politely mention, that I am not trying to start any type of back and forth on background or cultural heritage, or offend anyone in any way. Rather I would like to kindly please request some guidance and get some other members experiences and thoughts. Thank you.I spent 10 days in the country back in August. Posted a detailed report on my trip here. Did 5 days in Pattaya and 5 in Bangkok. For background I am an early 30's white guy from NYC metro. Regarding your question about "brown" mongers, I will share my observations from my trip. Most of this pertains to Indian mongers, I'm not as sure how a black or African customer might be received.

In Pattaya Indian guys were stopped at the entrance to walking street gogo bars. I think most were not permitted to enter. I heard from some of these guys that bouncers apparently told them there was a 5 k baht entrance fee. I didn't have anything like this happen to me, just walked right into the gogo bars, no fee and no ID check. My hunch is that Indian guys will have an even harder time with P2 P in Pattaya than in Bangkok. The reason being that there are just a ton of Indians in Pattaya, and the girls / clubs tend to disfavor them as customers.

It's a similar story in Bangkok. I observed that near the entrance to nana plaza, many Indian guys would be stopped. Again, I had no issues and would just walk right into nana. But I saw other guys get stopped, questioned and they would have to show ID or maybe were even asked to pay an entrance fee. I did see a few Indian or "brown" guys inside the bars at Nana plaza. From speaking with the girls at Bangkok gogo bars, however, I had a few girls tell me that they will not get off the stage if an Indian guy buys them a drink.

Not trying to discourage or anyone or start any shit. Just my honest observations from the trip. I was surprised with how poorly Indian customers seemed to be treated by the bars / girls given how prevalent Indians are in Bangkok and Pattaya especially. Anyways, food for thought before you get on a plane and spend your time / money visiting Thailand.

[Captain Solo]

It's supposed to be 33 stories, partially constructed by The Chinese Railway Engineering #10 group. It's the only high-rise building in Bangkok that collapsed in the earthquake, even only partially constructed. How worse can it be when more weight are added with floors, walls, roof, equipment, furninsing ect.

Preliminary suspects are the beamless, flat-slab floors structure design which did not hold columns rigid in the earth movement. Substandard reinforced steel is also a suspect. Would be very scary to live in buildings with all those extremely heavy flat-slab floors potentially pancake down in earthquakes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-firm-investigated-bangkok-skyscraper-170329738.html

[PgReal]

Viet chicks in Bangkok? An influx? Hmmm, sounds good. Maybe a bit of a generalization, but how are they in general? More demure? Even more pliable? Less predatory?

Hey, bolding text really worksThief's if you don't have your wits about you.

[Lcale1982]

It used be rare to come across Viet girls in Bangkok. Once in a while, an odd one but last night I ran into soooooooooo many freelancers from Vietnam. What's with this influx?Oh interesting, in the states I noticed an influx of Viet girls coming to work also. The korean agency I go too usually only have koreans and japanese but recently a bunch of Viet been popping up too and at cheaper rate too which is nice.

[11Bravo]

It's supposed to be 33 stories, partially constructed by The Chinese Railway Engineering #10 group. It's the only high-rise building in Bangkok that collapsed in the earthquake, even only partially constructed. How worse can it be when more weight are added with floors, walls, roof, equipment, furninsing ect.

Preliminary suspects are the beamless, flat-slab floors structure design which did not hold columns rigid in the earth movement. Substandard reinforced steel is also a suspect. Would be very scary to live in buildings with all those extremely heavy flat-slab floors potentially pancake down in earthquakes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-firm-investigated-bangkok-skyscraper-170329738.htmlHeard the same on the BBC. Once one floor goes, it's history, pancake city. Shame. Of course there will be an investigation...

[Intrepid123]

It used be rare to come across Viet girls in Bangkok. Once in a while, an odd one but last night I ran into soooooooooo many freelancers from Vietnam. What's with this influx?Could you please be more specific? Where exactly? Were they good looking?

I had 1 (for sure) or maybe 2 Viets in Bangkok over the years, they were both quite ok passionate and good looking. The best thing was how silky and smooth their skin was compared to most Thai girls.

[Grebe925]

Not trying to discourage or anyone or start any shit. Just my honest observations from the trip. I was surprised with how poorly Indian customers seemed to be treated by the bars / girls given how prevalent Indians are in Bangkok and Pattaya especially. Anyways, food for thought before you get on a plane and spend your time / money visiting Thailand.A year or so ago, Thailand made it visa free entry for Indians. Since then, I have been seeing a marked increase in Indians in the videos on YT from lower classes. Now the general mentality of Indians (and I'm saying this as one) is trying to get something for nothing so you can imagine the frustration of the Thais when they won't even buy a drink at the bar but stay there to ogle at the women & probably make some cheap passes at them or play them along & leave. Now imagine this multiplied due to the increase in Indians due to visa free entry. So an Indian fine seems natural. I have personally paid it at Crazy Horse even though it is humiliating but I understand the reason. This new type of Indian tourist has simply made it more difficult for those who play by both the written & unwritten rules.

[Zam007]

I spent 10 days in the country back in August. Posted a detailed report on my trip here. Did 5 days in Pattaya and 5 in Bangkok. For background I am an early 30's white guy from NYC metro. Regarding your question about "brown" mongers, I will share my observations from my trip. Most of this pertains to Indian mongers, I'm not as sure how a black or African customer might be received.

In Pattaya Indian guys were stopped at the entrance to walking street gogo bars. I think most were not permitted to enter. I heard from some of these guys that bouncers apparently told them there was a 5 k baht entrance fee. I didn't have anything like this happen to me, just walked right into the gogo bars, no fee and no ID check. My hunch is that Indian guys will have an even harder time with P2 P in Pattaya than in Bangkok. The reason being that there are just a ton of Indians in Pattaya, and the girls / clubs tend to disfavor them as customers.

It's a similar story in Bangkok. I observed that near the entrance to nana plaza, many Indian guys would be stopped. Again, I had no issues and would just walk right into nana. But I saw other guys get stopped, questioned and they would have to show ID or maybe were even asked to pay an entrance fee. I did see a few Indian or "brown" guys inside the bars at Nana plaza..I am a mixed race, and for the last 5 years, I have been spending most of my time in India.

From what I can say, most Indians are self aware of what's going on.

Indians had been getting a bad rep for more than 2 decades in Thailand.

Rise of Social Media with messaging apps amplified it and there was some truth in it.

But, there are a lot of gogo bars, that don't mind them. They are mostly worried about a group of Indians.

I've seen a lot of Indian men pick up hot women from Nana and Soi Cowboy.

The thing they want is money.

The lower class of Indians, especially the ones who end up in Pattaya are offered cheap tour packages by Indian agents and thrown into a street full of dance / gogo bars and hookers lining up the street and.

They have never seen anything like that. So, they behave badly and since they lack any sense of personal space combined with their boy odor is annoying as hell. Then the fact that many of them have just about enough money to eat and get back to their return flight, will the bargain of the century.

This is very energy consuming.

But, there are Indians who through a lot of money away. I have seen in places like MIXX where Indians spend 20-40 k in just 2-3 hours.

[Shikhar10]

So an Indian fine seems natural. I have personally paid it at Crazy Horse even though it is humiliating but I understand the reason.Firstly, Crazy House has been charging the 500 baht entry fee from Indians since long before visa was exempted for Indians. On top of it, they make Indians pay double for a lady drink. Staff straight up asks them to ignore the price written on the menu.

Secondly, there are less racist ways to ensure the customer entering is a paying one. Baccara at Soi Cowboy asks, or at least used to ask, Indians to buy one drink each before entering. If that is not extravagant enough, as I have said many times before, adjustment of a reasonable "entry fee" in the actual bar bill is one way. Easily doable with a coupon system. Even then, the freedom to take a quick look inside the bar is curtailed. But that is a more acceptable compromise.

Finally, please do not justify racism, even if it is against your own kind. I try my best to dress / smell fine, greet the staff with palms joined and be as ideal a customer as I can be without throwing wads of cash around. I do NOT deserve the suspicious and disgusting looks. The only saving grace is the fact that there are still plenty of women in Thailand who do not care about the color of my skin.

[Crater77]

So this was last full day. Wake up late, did BF, went to rooftop pool had a wine while I was there and then comeback to room. Took shower and was sitting and Earthquake happened. Stayed in room, went under the table and once it stopped, picked up my passport came outside hotel in huddle area.

Entire hotel was standing and people were running and some were really scared. Some from buildings and hotels beyond our alley were still running and coming out.

Fear factor was high for an hour and then people started drinking beers in the bars.

But most of locals were not going back in.

I had an irish bar 3 minutes walking from my hotel and it had people sitting out and drinking beer. I too joined them. FYI. I am pretty used to EQ's where I live but this one was one of the scariest and longest I experienced.

I too went to a bar across the street from Irish bar and ordered beer.

Some of the patrons in the bar were a german couple, britt and American gentlemen and we just chatted and talked about what happened and shared some experiences.

My original plan was to LT / outcall a girl from Addict. I messaged mamamsan on line to confirm if the girls had started and no reply came. This was couple of hours after EQ. I went for lunch and decided to take some genuine massage. Searched on phone and had one relax spa (seems like a chain) and another one right across my hotel (almost a full building) showed up. Both were 5 minutes walking in opposite directions. Went to both and they were both closed.

It was at this time I realized the traffic was all stuck and BTS was also not running.

My OG plan of final day- of LT from addict in the afternoon, Soapy in evening and Billboard pickup from NP was all looking like falling apart.

I messaged few others on Line and most didn't responded and some responded like closed and few responded with pics of who all were available. BTS was not running, no cars were moving.

Behind my hotel is massage shops. All genuine and I decided lets go to one of those and get the massage.

Went for oil massage the guy took me in and washed my feet and then I told him that I want a female masseur. Since this was genuine massage I kept the undies. Lady came in and started the massage and told me to take off the underwear. Took it off. Massage started and it was a regular massage but on flip she asked me if I want a release. I said why not. She quoted me 2000. I said skip it. I didn't wanted it plus she was ok not a stunner and there was no way she would take her clothes off. There was a curtain that closed the massage area. Anyhow she said what I want to give. I said 600 for massage and 400 for her.

She started and gave me a HJ. She did it very discreetly and was paying close attention to outside noise while jerking me.

So I got a genuine massage and paid another 400 for HJ.

Came out and next to this shop was a bar with pool tables. I still had few hours to kill before heading to Soapy. Saw a real pretty girl sitting inside. I went and sat opposite her. Ordered beer and asked how does the pool thing work.

My focus was on the girl only. She looked like a local girl was dressed nicely with nails done well. I would have asked her to join me in drink but I stopped because she had 2 bottles of water on her table. I thought she was waiting for someone. Any how I had a beer to finish and I got drink for my waitress and other one as well and started pool with one of the waitress (she was like 50 ish) but all I was trying to do was.

1. See if I can strike a conversation with the girl sitting right across.

2. Ask the waitresses if they get FL's that hang out late at night.

Played 2 games and finished my beer and this girl was still sitting alone and then suddenly one of the 2 guys who were playing pool in adjacent table came and talked to this girl. Looked like her boyfriend but for last 35 minutes this dude didn't came to say Hi to her and she was dead bored all this time.

My plan was to ask her to join us for next game but glad I didn't. I asked the waitress and then gave me inconclusive answers if FL will be there at night. Wrapped up and left after beer and pool.

Now traffic was still there. I walked to thermae and it was closed.

Called La belle and no one was picking and IVR kept saying some stuff in Thai. I checked and Cab was showing 45 minutes and walking was 29 minutes. It was at this time I realized many things will be closed. I decided today is the day I spend all my time at Nana Plaza. Got ready walked and fuuuuccccccck. It was closed. The entire complex was dark.

I said let me pick someone from street. I decided to go back and pick someone on street. Talked with few but didn't liked anyone. Then outside thermae saw few beauties. I talked with few and checked them out. Finally like one 26 year old and she asked for 3 K for ST. Told her BJ with no condom ok but she was bad at English. Had another 40 year old who came over to explain it to her and she said ok. Then all of sudden old 40 year old said she too can join. I told her I only want younger one then all of a sudden she said money in advance.

I told older one I do not pay advance and ignored her. I talked directly to this younger girl. I gave her my hand and said I will take care of her and my hotel is 5 minutes walk. She stood and held my hand and we started walking. She was wearing right size heal, ripped jeans and tank top with pretty big boobs. She had that Girl next door look.

Walked to my hotel, went to room. Did some foreplay. Told here to undress in front of me. She took shower. I made myself a drink and she came out wrapped in towel. I then went for shower and when I came out she had turned of most of the lights. Started with BJ, she sucked great and I just kept asking her to do more and more. Very nice eye contact. Then did my usual Cowgirl, Doggy and then missionary with DFK. I made her give me a long BJ and then another 20 minutes of fucking. I finally came in with slow sensual missionary. Her pussy was just right amount of tight and she was pretty submissive.

Paid the money and said GN. Final day had a great ending.

It was a 4 day trip. Did missed out on Soapies and Billboard and also BC or Pimp. So next time.

I did used TF, WeChat, Telegram and Line. I will share my experience with all these in separate post. This forum is great and I had great time learning and exchanging notes from folks in this forum.

[HorseTrader]

... Finally like one 26 year old and she asked for 3 K for ST. Told her BJ with no condom ok but she was bad at English. Had another 40 year old who came over to explain it to her and she said ok. Then all of sudden old 40 year old said she too can join. I told her I only want younger one then all of a sudden she said money in advance....

I did used TF, WeChat, Telegram and Line. I will share my experience with all these in separate post. This forum is great and I had great time learning and exchanging notes from folks in this forum.Thanks for writing the reports. Glad you enjoyed your stay.

Suggest you add at least one more app to your smartphone: Google Translate. That will allow you to communicate with Thai ladies using either translated text or translated voice. It even has a camera function that will translate words on signs, menus, etc. It's not perfect but it works pretty good and will eliminate dealing with interpreters. It's indispensable when trying to make arrangements with the deaf freelancers on Soi 4 and other places.

[Mushamisi]

I had a good time last year hoping to make another trip this year. Are things still closed like Nana, Soi Cowboy? Are prices going up due to the earthquake?

[Crater77]

Bro. Things in Thailand are ok.

NP and other MP's were closed only for the day when EQ happened and most likely because of traffic delays and train stoppage. Assuming ladies and wait staff were unable to make it in time for 7 pm opening. Earthquake happened around 1 pm.

It was a very normal morning the next day, as I flew out the next afternoon.

Luckily no major casualties in Thailand. Burma thought got hot really hard.


I had a good time last year hoping to make another trip this year. Are things still closed like Nana, Soi Cowboy? Are prices going up due to the earthquake?

[Goatscrot]

Indians have always been known as the cultural leaders when it comes to partying. That's a playa mentality. There is a saying that goes "ain't no party like an Indian party, because a Piddy party ain't shit. " Take the Air Asia flight that made news several months ago when Punjabs were living it up on the flight to Thailand. In some of the videos circulating online, you can tell that the Thai air hostesses we're having a blast and probably enjoyed having secret photos taken of them from underneath their skirts. Maybe even got them dripping wet at that altitude. Word is that perhaps one of my fellow Indian buddies may have taken a Thai Air Asia flight attendant into the tiny bathroom to join the mile high club. Thai girls love these type of extroverts. Makes Thai girls horny. It means CONFIDENCE. A must have in Thai society. No need to hide behind drunkenness and 40 or more drinks. I would say they look down on those who have to go that route. Because it's called "getting played". Here is a clip from that flight. No rules need be abided. It's Thailand after all. LOL.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRKmuD3Sr9YWell this may be partly true. While people from isaan are always up for a party, people from the north, center, and South are generally more reserved and less likely to enjoy those types of festivities except on rare occasions.

[UglyAzzMan]

I could be in Error but it does make sense.

Myanmar epicenter was 7. 7 on the Scale of Beauty.

The Beauty that took down the Chatuchuk build rated a 4. 4. in other words sn Ugly.

Calm Down.

On the other hand Water falling from the Rooftop Pool and numerous building cracks shown by you tubers are Concerning.

[Alex Dee]

My preference is mostly freelance from bars or TF, however on this occasion I did pay a visit to Secret Kiss, and can say had an awesome experience and highly recommend it. Attached is their menu. I only went for the 40 min BJ. Also tried Fantasy 8 which provide full service, nice place and lovely girls.

Mate of mine wanted to try Nancy, no longer a soapy, this is a super expensive place and very pushy sales reps.

Oscars wine bar is one of my hangouts and was shocked to hear the ladies asking for 10 k LT, goes without saying I didn't pursue. Anyone else experienced this?

[Larbmoo555]

I had a good time last year hoping to make another trip this year. Are things still closed like Nana, Soi Cowboy? Are prices going up due to the earthquake?I was in Nana Plaza the day after the earthquake (Saturday). It was packed, hard to tell anything had happened.

[ThreeLilBirds]

I will go to the high end places La Belle, Poseidon, etc. I have also read that the escort services are nothing special so I will avoid them.According to Google, La Belle's 2nd last review: "closed permanently it has moved or associated about 1.3 km new name "Acqua."

Googling Poseidon and filtering for most recent reviews, it seems the place has lost its lustre. Multiple reports of people being pressured and rushed to finish up really quickly and not receiving the 90 mins as quoted and paid.

There's mentions of massage club "Black Caviar" which in their google reviews, someone posted a picture of the price list which is 7,700 -12,500 baht for 'Beautiful girl in luxury style' and then 16,500 up to a staggering 36,000 baht for 'Beautiful girl, supermodel style' (translated their menu) Latest review states 'no Thai bath service'.

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.

I think I'd rather pull 2 top tier STs from Nanas or elsewhere instead of 8 k in one of these 'high-end' establishments.

Anyone that has had a romp in any of these venues, I'd love to hear the feedback or link to previous reports.

[Grebe925]

Finally, please do not justify racism, even if it is against your own kind. I try my best to dress / smell fine, greet the staff with palms joined and be as ideal a customer as I can be without throwing wads of cash around. I do NOT deserve the suspicious and disgusting looks. The only saving grace is the fact that there are still plenty of women in Thailand who do not care about the color of my skin.It's not racism. It's just the way it is. I have friends running bars in India itself who complain about guys buying just one beer & holding onto it for hours just to mingle with the hip crowd. These are educated guys so imagine those from mofussil towns who've never been out of India suddenly landing up in Bangkok & Pattaya. I've been going to Thailand for more than two decades so I can see the marked difference in the quality of the Indian clientele since the visa free entry was instituted. Of course there are exceptions to the rule. Thai women don't discriminate on skin color, they discriminate on the attitude of the people of that skin color.

[Grebe925]

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.

I think I'd rather pull 2 top tier STs from Nanas or elsewhere instead of 8 k in one of these 'high-end' establishments.

Anyone that has had a romp in any of these venues, I'd love to hear the feedback or link to previous reports.I visited Marias about a year ago at around 7 PM. As you said the prices are close to 10 K Baht for a session. Used to frequent Lords pre-Covid that was considered one of the higher end places with prices around 3 K-4 K if I'm not mistaken. Compared to the latter, I saw little difference to justify triple the price for the girls in the lineup. The girl I chose were pretty but if you tried a little you could pick someone similar in regular go-go's.

[HorseTrader]

I visited Marias about a year ago at around 7 PM. As you said the prices are close to 10 K Baht for a session. Used to frequent Lords pre-Covid that was considered one of the higher end places with prices around 3 K-4 K if I'm not mistaken. Compared to the latter, I saw little difference to justify triple the price for the girls in the lineup. The girl I chose were pretty but if you tried a little you could pick someone similar in regular go-go's.My memory says that Lord's Palace was about 6 K to 12 K in about 2017.

[OlgaVaz]

In the States, I am a strip club goer. Generally prefer them over massage places. I like the vibe of naked girls dancing so I like these two in Soi Cowboy though not all get totally naked on stage. CH seems to be stricter than BB in that I saw a guy get reprimanded for reaching down between the legs when being given a lap dance at his seat. At BB I bought drinks for two fit, tattooed ladies and I had my hands all over them. The day before earthquake, I took the one with an explicit tatt on her thigh upstairs -3 K plus 800 BF plus 500 room. I just assumed she could take a pounding but she tapped-out before I could finish. Still a great time.

[SinCitySinner1]

I spent 10 days in the country back in August. Posted a detailed report on my trip here. Did 5 days in Pattaya and 5 in Bangkok. For background I am an early 30's white guy from NYC metro. Regarding your question about "brown" mongers, I will share my observations from my trip. Most of this pertains to Indian mongers, I'm not as sure how a black or African customer might be received.

In Pattaya Indian guys were stopped at the entrance to walking street gogo bars. I think most were not permitted to enter. I heard from some of these guys that bouncers apparently told them there was a 5 k baht entrance fee. I didn't have anything like this happen to me, just walked right into the gogo bars, no fee and no ID check. My hunch is that Indian guys will have an even harder time with P2 P in Pattaya than in Bangkok. The reason being that there are just a ton of Indians in Pattaya, and the girls / clubs tend to disfavor them as customers.

It's a similar story in Bangkok. I observed that near the entrance to nana plaza, many Indian guys would be stopped. Again, I had no issues and would just walk right into nana. But I saw other guys get stopped, questioned and they would have to show ID or maybe were even asked to pay an entrance fee. I did see a few Indian or "brown" guys inside the bars at Nana plaza. From speaking with the girls at Bangkok gogo bars, however, I had a few girls tell me that they will not get off the stage if an Indian guy buys them a drink.

Not trying to discourage or anyone or start any shit. Just my honest observations from the trip. I was surprised with how poorly Indian customers seemed to be treated by the bars / girls given how prevalent Indians are in Bangkok and Pattaya especially. Anyways, food for thought before you get on a plane and spend your time / money visiting Thailand.Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.

[Newton York]

Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.Sorry dude, but Thai people don't or can't make that distinction. Accents matter little to them. I've seen it where an Indian dude was stopped entering a Nana bar. The time I saw it, was one of the bars on the second floor. I never thought it real until I saw it with my own eyes, like dudes of all kinds were streaming in to the establishment and suddenly the bouncer just stopped the one Indian guy, nothing said, just stopped him and said he can't go in.

I've fucked Thai girls from here in the States, in Singapore's Geylang, and all over Bangkok, and I can tell you that most Thai people, especially the bargirls, don't really comprehend that a person's race can be different than their nationality. If you try to explain to them, for example that a Japanese person can be from Hawaii, or a Korean person can be from LA, or an Egyptian person can be from Australia, it just won't compute. To them you are Indian, so you must be from India. A typical Nana Plaza bouncer, will definitely just see you as an Indian. You can speak English with an American accent all you want, it won't make a lick of difference. Not saying that Thai's are racists, but a lot of them bar girls don't ever get the chance for a good education, not their fault really. Also, skin color really matters in Thailand, like literally. Thai girls be trying all kinds of skin whitening methods.

It's a weird south East Asian thing, kinda like the inverse of how white chicks all over the UK and the States are obsessed about tanning. Just goes to show you nobody's ever happy with themselves anywhere. Still though, I'd sell my soul to go back to Thailand.

You gotta look at it from their perspective. Imagine telling them that somewhere out there, exists Thai people that don't speak Thai. Holy cow, how will that ever make sense to them?

All that being said though, if you have the cash, then try the Pimp. The only thing they speak there is money. No caring about skin color there, the only thing that matters is green. You'll be treated like a king as long as you pony up.

[Crater77]

I just did solo trip. Indian origin having US passport. All went well. Read my FR's.

As long as you are respectful it should be ok.

I would suggest do not be cheap Charlie but at same time hold your line on greedy waitresses and bouncers asking for drinks.


Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.

[Ranvir 226]

Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.Bangkok has multiple avenues for pleasure. So first, the places wher there is no discrimination, all massage parlours, all soapy establishment, all nuru places, thermae, freelnacers. The reason for this is, you pay and take services and its over. The business cycle is completed both sides giving their due. Now comes, the places, not all but few, as my fellow brothers keep setting higher milestones of low behaviour. These are few gogo bars, who in my opinion, are fully justified to do so. Notwithstanding, it should not discourage you, like it does not discourage me. Enjoy.

[Ranvir 226]

According to Google, La Belle's 2nd last review: "closed permanently it has moved or associated about 1.3 km new name "Acqua."

Googling Poseidon and filtering for most recent reviews, it seems the place has lost its lustre. Multiple reports of people being pressured and rushed to finish up really quickly and not receiving the 90 mins as quoted and paid.

There's mentions of massage club "Black Caviar" which in their google reviews, someone posted a picture of the price list which is 7,700 -12,500 baht for 'Beautiful girl in luxury style' and then 16,500 up to a staggering 36,000 baht for 'Beautiful girl, supermodel style' (translated their menu) Latest review states 'no Thai bath service'.

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.

I think I'd rather pull 2 top tier STs from Nanas or elsewhere instead of 8 k in one of these 'high-end' establishments.

Anyone that has had a romp in any of these venues, I'd love to hear the feedback or link to previous reports.I had read that review befor my visit and was confused. Still I went. Read my review also. Its open and in full swing.

[Mushamisi]

I was in Nana Plaza the day after the earthquake (Saturday). It was packed, hard to tell anything had happened.Good to know.

[JohnnyBoy3212]

So I've been living in BKK for over a year now and could not help but scratch the itch. Being a mongering from California, GPS is nonexistent here in my eyes.

I walked into Ola ola massage on a Wednesday after seeing some good reviews about them. The mamasan was very welcoming and the girls on the outside weren't too good but I figured ill have them line up and see if they can catch my eye standing up.

I immediately gravitated towards a girl named "Happy", at least I think that's her name, I don't remember haha. She was by far the cutest and stood at about 5'5 with long milky legs. She looks like Jennie from the girl group Blackpink, but with blonde hair and a splash of Thai mixed in.

Turns out she's a VIP and was quoted 2500 instead of the standard 2200 for a normal FS 30 min. Now I don't know if VIP is a real thing but she's definitely worth the extra 300 looks wise.

We go in the room, standard shower, and off to the bed.

Her skin is the smoothest silkiest skin I have ever felt. Not a single blemish on it and its clear that she goes to great lengths to take care of herself. Her body is nice and curvy and yet, skinny. The good old body we look for, flat stomach, a nice handful for the breasts and a nice bubbly ass.

I am deathly scared of STDs (I know I monger, but its an addiction at this point), so I asked for a covered BJ and she still was putting in the work to get junior standing at attention.

We start off with mish and she feels nice and snug, I am not well endowed in the slightest, so being snug for me is tight for others haha. I switch over to doggy and the sight of her ass clapping against me as she moans is something that made me moving over here worth it.

I bust in doggy and we chit chat for a bit before I left.

WIR? Yes, I HAD to grab her line because this a gal ID like to see more than once while I live here.

Face: 8.8.

Body: 9.3.

Service: 8.7.

If any mongers in their 20's or 30's live in Bangkok, please feel free to reach out! Going solo is fun but I've been going solo since I started and would love to connect with like minded individuals.

[SinCitySinner1]

Crater77, Ranvir and Newton York- Thanks for your contribution and perspective.

[Helsinki6]

Sorry dude, but Thai people don't or can't make that distinction. Accents matter little to them. I've seen it where an Indian dude was stopped entering a Nana bar. The time I saw it, was one of the bars on the second floor. I never thought it real until I saw it with my own eyes, like dudes of all kinds were streaming in to the establishment and suddenly the bouncer just stopped the one Indian guy, nothing said, just stopped him and said he can't go in..Yes, I've experienced it. When on my first ever visit to nana plaza, I went in a group of 4 , denied entry to Geisha, and the other few I forgot name. Straps or I forgot name on the first floor.

But when I was solo mongering the other visit, all allowed in nana except the straps on the first floor right beside the staircase. It is little awkward to be denied entry but yeah I know what they face while being denied.

The trick is to be solo.

[Akj1419]

According to Google, La Belle's 2nd last review: "closed permanently it has moved or associated about 1.3 km new name "Acqua."

Googling Poseidon and filtering for most recent reviews, it seems the place has lost its lustre. Multiple reports of people being pressured and rushed to finish up really quickly and not receiving the 90 mins as quoted and paid.

There's mentions of massage club "Black Caviar" which in their google reviews, someone posted a picture of the price list which is 7,700 -12,500 baht for 'Beautiful girl in luxury style' and then 16,500 up to a staggering 36,000 baht for 'Beautiful girl, supermodel style' (translated their menu) Latest review states 'no Thai bath service'.

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.I have been here twice and both times took the best looking girls 10/10. I chose from the high end luxury girls that don't sit in the fishbowl, but on the side. You can call girls to your table and have a chat and then decide if you want to go ahead with it. Best to ask the mamasan for suggestions.

[Omfgitzjin]

So I've been living in BKK for over a year now and could not help but scratch the itch. Being a mongering from California, GPS is nonexistent here in my eyes.

I walked into Ola ola massage on a Wednesday after seeing some good reviews about them. The mamasan was very welcoming and the girls on the outside weren't too good but I figured ill have them line up and see if they can catch my eye standing up.

I immediately gravitated towards a girl named "Happy", at least I think that's her name, I don't remember haha. She was by far the cutest and stood at about 5'5 with long milky legs. She looks like Jennie from the girl group Blackpink, but with blonde hair and a splash of Thai mixed in.

Turns out she's a VIP and was quoted 2500 instead of the standard 2200 for a normal FS 30 min. Now I don't know if VIP is a real thing but she's definitely worth the extra 300 looks wise.

We go in the room, standard shower, and off to the bed.

Her skin is the smoothest silkiest skin I have ever felt. Not a single blemish on it and its clear that she goes to great lengths to take care of herself. Her body is nice and curvy and yet, skinny. The good old body we look for, flat stomach, a nice handful for the breasts and a nice bubbly ass.

I am deathly scared of STDs (I know I monger, but its an addiction at this point), so I asked for a covered BJ and she still was putting in the work to get junior standing at attention.

We start off with mish and she feels nice and snug, I am not well endowed in the slightest, so being snug for me is tight for others haha. I switch over to doggy and the sight of her ass clapping against me as she moans is something that made me moving over here worth it.

I bust in doggy and we chit chat for a bit before I left.

WIR? Yes, I HAD to grab her line because this a gal ID like to see more than once while I live here.

Face: 8.8.

Body: 9.3.

Service: 8.7.

If any mongers in their 20's or 30's live in Bangkok, please feel free to reach out! Going solo is fun but I've been going solo since I started and would love to connect with like minded individuals.Also from CA here too. Visiting late April. How long you in town for? I'm staying on sukhumvit 15 right by thermae LOL.

[EverythingThai]

If you're still spending all your nights in the tourist zones thinking that's the peak Bangkok experience, you may want to try something new.

Some of the best ladies and the best attitudes are hiding in the places the tour groups don't even know exist:

• Local massage parlors: The vibe is real. No hard sells, no jaded looks. Girls actually want to have fun. Prices? Yeah, a little easier, but it's the attitude that makes it magic. This has been my experience.

•Neighborhood karaoke bars: You're not another walking ATM here. You're a guest. The girls are playful, the smiles are natural, and if there's chemistry, it's more genuine in my experience.

And here's the kicker, even as a farang, you can clean up in these spots if you know how to carry yourself.

You walk in like a normal human being, show some manners, a little charm, and you'll get better treatment than half the Thais. Girls in these places appreciate guys who are cool, who aren't acting like drunk idiots.

Example:

Last week I ducked into a small massage shop in my neighborhood. No huge flashing sign, no "supermodel" lineup at the door. Just normal, friendly girls. Walked in, picked a sweet one with a real smile, not the fake "pay me now" grin. She giggled when I told her in Thai I might leave a tip depending on her "performance. ".

Let's just say by the time we were done, the only thing missing was the wedding vows. No clock-watching. No upselling. No drama. A wonderful GFE and not even one mention of a condom. Tooms you need to do this more often.

I'm a farang, but it didn't matter. When you hit the right local spots, they treat you based on your vibe.

Bottom line:

If you're chasing real connections and real fun and you're not a complete tool, you can change it up and start playing where Bangkok actually lives. It's out there. You just have to stop thinking like a tourist and act like you belong. Learn some basic Thai.

How to find these places. I simply use google maps. I also check out Facebook and search for them in my area. It's a pleasant change to all the tourist places. I mix it up.

[Nyezhov]

And of course, don't Overpay. Always read way back in the forum to double check any information that someone gives you, especially when the information is coming from folks who like to pretend they are experts by regurgitating the same stuff that's been on this board for years.

[MongerHunger]

If you're still spending all your nights in the tourist zones thinking that's the peak Bangkok experience, you may want to try something new.

Some of the best ladies and the best attitudes are hiding in the places the tour groups don't even know exist:

Local massage parlors: The vibe is real. No hard sells, no jaded looks. Girls actually want to have fun. Prices? Yeah, a little easier, but it's the attitude that makes it magic. This has been my experience.

Neighborhood karaoke bars: You're not another walking ATM here. You're a guest. The girls are playful, the smiles are natural, and if there's chemistry, it's more genuine in my experience.

And here's the kicker, even as a farang, you can clean up in these spots if you know how to carry yourself.

You walk in like a normal human being, show some manners, a little charm, and you'll get better treatment than half the Thais. Girls in these places appreciate guys who are cool, who aren't acting like drunk idiots.

Example:

Last week I ducked into a small massage shop in my neighborhood. No huge flashing sign, no "supermodel" lineup at the door. Just normal, friendly girls. Walked in, picked a sweet one with a real smile, not the fake "pay me now" grin. She giggled when I told her in Thai I might leave a tip depending on her "performance. ".

Let's just say by the time we were done, the only thing missing was the wedding vows. No clock-watching. No upselling. No drama. A wonderful GFE and not even one mention of a condom. Tooms you need to do this more often.

I'm a farang, but it didn't matter. When you hit the right local spots, they treat you based on your vibe.

Bottom line:

If you're chasing real connections and real fun and you're not a complete tool, you can change it up and start playing where Bangkok actually lives. It's out there. You just have to stop thinking like a tourist and act like you belong. Learn some basic Thai.

How to find these places. I simply use google maps. I also check out Facebook and search for them in my area. It's a pleasant change to all the tourist places. I mix it up.This is good advice. Many people are "sheep" when it comes to travel. They do what everyone else is doing and go where all the tourist are. They eat at McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger King and Western style places. They don't care about Thai culture. They just complain and talk about Thai culture, the food, the music, the traditions negatively. That's a little disrespectful if you ask me. I like the local scene. The less foreigners the better. I don't need to hang around them. That's not why I travel the world to look for fellow countrymen and other westerners to hang with them. I don't learn anything from them but arrogance and entitlement and I don't need that shit.

[Newton York]

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[NicFrenchy]

Just curious, been out a Looooong while. Is there a replacement for FIWFANS?

[Crater77]

Posting in both BKK and TF forums.

I just wrapped up my 4 day trip in Bangkok.

The forum has wealth of knowledge so I followed and got premium 2 days before my arrival.

I had my pictures and age display. Clearly told I am looking for fun.

Lot of inbounds. But almost 95% of them serious kinds and 35+.

Since paid subscribers can search and do unlimited messages. I messaged lot of them (maybe like 100). I did got responses from 15 or so. Some were ready to come they shared the rates but closer look revealed too much makeup.

I had 3 matches that I was very hopeful of a LT stay.

I did video call with all of them.

First one looked Latina. She was 8/10. I think it was my mistake on not specifically asking her if she was a free lancer but she was flirting a lot and also did video call while taking shower. So I thought it was a give me.

She came almost an hour late. I wished I had taken this as red-flag and cancelled. Had dinner and drinks with her in restaurant 2 minutes from my hotel and then moved to my room. She said she is into red wine and I had a bottle of Napa Red. Language barrier was not allowing that connection but she had this playlist and she put that on and started dancing.

She was rubbing me. However wasn't taking her clothes off. I asked her to take her shorts off and she said NO. That was it. I was horny and I made some excuse and said I need to go to business center to take urgent call and we have to wrap.

She wasn't happy that I was pushing her out but I got tired with her coming late then communication was not great so was missing the connection. More importantly I got the sense that she wanted to just drink and stay and not indulge in any action. While going she asked for taxi and I gave her 150 bhat. Said her Good bye and I headed to soi cowboy.

Lesson learned. I should have clarified if she was FL.

The other 2 were interesting. One was african and she did video call but was no way near her pics. So I rejected her. She was ready to come and I believe she would have been in the hotel within 30 minutes.

Other one was amazing and she flaked on me twice. But I had learned my lessons from the first night and was always ready with alternate plans.

My two cents on TF. Total waste of time for visitors that are in BKK for short stay like a week or two. It might be useful for expats but for tourists it is waste of time, lot of flaky ladies. They will never come.

I do not doubt folks that say they have scored some amateurs at TF. I am sure it is possible but that takes time, patience and someone who is an expat and staying in Thailand.

However IMHO tourists will get nothing from there. Just waste of time. Best is to pickup from Hillary bars or thermae. You see stuff in person and then pull the plug and no time wastage.

I also downloaded wechat and used the nearby option. No one responds and mostly are LB on we chat. I was in Sukhumvit 15 and tried to use it during the day time but no response and honestly nothing magical there.

Smoochi I didn't tried.

[Helsinki6]

Pinged the Aries line chat for updated girls list, I had been told that Anna and Elsa are off and don't work there anywhere.

Everybody was hell busy and couldn't make prior appointment so visited the establishment straight. Was shown the iPad and I wanted to try duo nuru this time and proceeded with the options I was given.

They asked me what would I want to have for drinks among what they had and I enjoyed the Ginseng drink.

I choose Saki and Hikaru for 90 minutes about 8500 tbh.

They accompanied me to the top floor. After entering both of them took top care, undressed me and made me sit on the nuru chair, washed themselves and washed me. Blowjobs followed for 10-15 minutes, I didn't want to release yet. Later, they prepared the matress and asked me over. The experience at Aries was top tier. After the massage, I asked Saki to put a cover and bendover, there was a mirror and I could fuck her in doggy on the matress but hardly could see me fucking her over the mirror. I released after hard strokes. Washed and moved over to the bed where I relaxed and was pampered like a 3 year old boy Hikaru, she was a good talk. She wanted to ride me so bad and woke up my nunu, went on for good amount of time, I later wanted to do Saki again so the cover was changed and did her in missionary and finally released.

About Saki, solid body, correct fits, looks 32+ , can take hard strokes.

About Hikaru, petite, no boobs or very small, can suck till last breath and rides like a machine.

Aries Kokoro Ola Bkkvice Amor.

I felt Aries to be top among a few I visited over the years.

Heard much about the combo of Anna and Elsa at Aries but they were off and don't work anymore at the time when I visited. Now, as per sources heard Anna is back to work at Aries and Elsa at Aimi.

[Omfgitzjin]

Posting in both BKK and TF forums.

I just wrapped up my 4 day trip in Bangkok.

The forum has wealth of knowledge so I followed and got premium 2 days before my arrival.

I had my pictures and age display. Clearly told I am looking for fun.

Lot of inbounds. But almost 95% of them serious kinds and 35+.

Since paid subscribers can search and do unlimited messages. I messaged lot of them (maybe like 100). I did got responses from 15 or so. Some were ready to come they shared the rates but closer look revealed too much makeup.

I had 3 matches that I was very hopeful of a LT stay.

I did video call with all of them.

First one looked Latina. She was 8/10. I think it was my mistake on not specifically asking her if she was a free lancer but she was flirting a lot and also did video call while taking shower. So I thought it was a give me.

She came almost an hour late. I wished I had taken this as red-flag and cancelled. Had dinner and drinks with her in restaurant 2 minutes from my hotel and then moved to my room. She said she is into red wine and I had a bottle of Napa Red. Language barrier was not allowing that connection but she had this playlist and she put that on and started dancing...Was literally about to pull the trigger on getting TF for my 2 week stay. But thanks for this. My tinder / bumble roster is pretty crazy and I have a date almost every day. I plan to meet them to see if they're down. If not, off to thermae / soi cowboy LOL.

[BrxBenjamin]

This will be a strange request.

My wife and I are looking to explore and experiment.

Is there any place the Thailand seniors would recommend, where I can go with my wife to watch a good sex show or adult show?

Possibly a couples massage with extras for us both.

[Captain Solo]

FIWFANS ADMIN still send me daily availability in TELEGRAM, pretty much the same girls I saw before.

angelsclubs.Com is new to me, lists fewer girls, especially along Sukhumvit, with no descriptions or prices. I think it's a different group.


Just curious, been out a Looooong while. Is there a replacement for FIWFANS?

[Captain Solo]

Goat,

In Asia dark skin are proof the people are rice farmers, dirty, uneducated, low income, poor, rude. Even if they are Thais, they are looked down to and generally avoided. Indians mostly look dark with body odors and cheap, sneaky attitudes, so they look suspicious and discriminated by girls and bars.

I bagged a dark-skin massage woman on Soi 22. In bed, her body was hard with strong muscles, skin tough like tanned leather, likely due to long exposure to the sun on rice paddies.

I prefer the softest, smoothest skin on girls. To me on line venues like FIWFANS or its replacements are the best venue to find the hottest, sweetest girls in Thailand.


Uh, as a very long time resident I beg to differ with you. White skin is valued here. Dark skin people, including dark skinned Thai people are looked down upon.

[Captain Solo]

I bagged 2 Viet freelance girls in Singapore, at corner of Geylang and Lorong 18. A dozen or so hang out in that area, even early in the morning.

Both were young, good-looking, with flawless, silky-smooth skin. They were moaning, caressing me tenderly, really enjoying sex like real GFs.

About a dozen Viet girls hang out on Sukhumvit Soi 4 near hotel Maison, talking loudly, animating. I even found them at 8 in the morning on my way to breakfast.


Could you please be more specific? Where exactly? Were they good looking?

I had 1 (for sure) or maybe 2 Viets in Bangkok over the years, they were both quite ok passionate and good looking. The best thing was how silky and smooth their skin was compared to most Thai girls.

[ElMexicant]

And of course, don't Overpay. Always read way back in the forum to double check any information that someone gives you, especially when the information is coming from folks who like to pretend they are experts by regurgitating the same stuff that's been on this board for years.+1. High 555.

[Goatscrot]

Goat,

In Asia dark skin are proof the people are rice farmers, dirty, uneducated, low income, poor, rude. Even if they are Thais, they are looked down to and generally avoided. Indians mostly look dark with body odors and cheap, sneaky attitudes, so they look suspicious and discriminated by girls and bars.

I bagged a dark-skin massage woman on Soi 22. In bed, her body was hard with strong muscles, skin tough like tanned leather, likely due to long exposure to the sun on rice paddies.

I prefer the softest, smoothest skin on girls. To me on line venues like FIWFANS or its replacements are the best venue to find the hottest, sweetest girls in Thailand.Exactly. Yes, you and I are in agreement on these issues!

[Captain Solo]

Has only a few girls in each district.

Click on the pics. Details will show descriptions, services, restrictions, and prices.


FIWFANS ADMIN still send me daily availability in TELEGRAM, pretty much the same girls I saw before.

angelsclubs.Com is new to me, lists fewer girls, especially along Sukhumvit, with no descriptions or prices. I think it's a different group.

[Nyezhov]

I bagged 2 Viet freelance girls in Singapore, at corner of Geylang and Lorong 18. A dozen or so hang out in that area, even early in the morning.

Both were young, good-looking, with flawless, silky-smooth skin. They were moaning, caressing me tenderly, really enjoying sex like real GFs.

About a dozen Viet girls hang out on Sukhumvit Soi 4 near hotel Maison, talking loudly, animating. I even found them at 8 in the morning on my way to breakfast.Beware of pickpockets / theives with Vietnamese girls.

[Mr Enternational]

I bagged a dark-skin massage woman on Soi 22. In bed, her body was hard with strong muscles, skin tough like tanned leather, likely due to long exposure to the sun on rice paddies.
You do know they are not working in the rice fields naked don't you? They are wrapped up from head to toe as to protect themselves from the sun. So how in the hell can the condition of her skin be due to her working outside?

[Werqweq]

You do know they are not working in the rice fields naked don't you? Ugh. Another illusion of mine shattered.

[Captain Solo]

I did not expect them to work the paddies in bikinis.

Her torso was light, so it was covered. OTOH her arms were very dark and leathery with clear lines.

Does not take scholars to figure that out.


You do know they are not working in the rice fields naked don't you? They are wrapped up from head to toe as to protect themselves from the sun. So how in the hell can the condition of her skin be due to her working outside?

[Zam007]

Goat.Did she have a pretty face?

[Captain Solo]

She looked mid 40's, not pretty, like a 4.

I tried to pick up a couple younger hot girls sitting out front, but they turned me down.

This woman was happy to go. We climbed up a rickety stairs to a small cluttered room on second floor. After she took her clothes off, I just had to close my eyes to get it over with.

This happened before Goat recommended FIWFANS. These girls are young, fresh, hot, pretty, passionate, DFK, BBBJ ect like real GFs. I would never go to massages again, only rarely bar and street girls.

Fiwfans admins still send out ads in Telegram. Look them up.


Did she have a pretty face?

[ElMexicant]

Did she have a pretty face?Meaning did she know how to do her make up correctly. It's 2025.

[Zam007]

I was wondering how much are we all expected to pay for girls from these smaller bars in soi 11 Which are kinda hidden, and look a bit more upscale compared to the gogo bars in nana and cowboy?

I was reading that for ST, Rates have shot up to 5 k in Nana.

Only last year, my friend picked one up from Nana plaza for 3.5 k plus 1 k bar fine for the entire night. He had to pay her to leave.

Another friend picked one up from Soi Cowboy for 2.5 k plus he splurged some extra money and bar fine while he was there. She too stayed with him for just 2.5 k.

[ElMexicant]

Way too many incidents in Colombia recently where sex tourists got drugged, robbed, kidnapped for ransom, murdered. Colombia is the most dangerous place for mongers. Always be careful on the road.If you Google. The number #1 drug for knock out or to decrease inhibition is alcohol. Works both ways for tricks and hookers. Welcome to the devil's playground for all who don't know. Now who is ready to buy 39 plus LDs? LOL.

[Newton York]

As long as the chick has nice smooth skin, I don't really care about her complexion. Dark, white, brown, you name it. To me pussy is pussy. It's all pink in there. Nice, warm, gooey and pink. What I wouldn't give to go back to Thailand again. *sigh*.

[UglyAzzMan]

So 4,000 has been the price in Rainbow 5 and 4 for quite awhile.

My earballs tell me Barfines have gone down quite a bit. Coincidence or Magic business hands at work.

Looking up closely at Rainbow 5 girls last night. I was thinking you be insane to pay close to $200 for a short time.

What say You.

P.S. The days past Superstar gets hardly any action anymore. She is getting old and I swear had facial adjustment s. Did not work for the Better. Hahaha. It's hard to look at her Now.

[Larbmoo555]

I was wondering how much are we all expected to pay for girls from these smaller bars in soi 11 Which are kinda hidden, and look a bit more upscale compared to the gogo bars in nana and cowboy?

I was reading that for ST, Rates have shot up to 5 k in Nana.

Only last year, my friend picked one up from Nana plaza for 3.5 k plus 1 k bar fine for the entire night. He had to pay her to leave.

Another friend picked one up from Soi Cowboy for 2.5 k plus he splurged some extra money and bar fine while he was there. She too stayed with him for just 2.5 k.I have spent a lot of time in Nana over the past few weeks. One or two places I went to charged 3 k (3 k ST + 1 k BF = 4 k) or 3. 5 k (3. 5 k ST + 1 k BF = 4. 5 k), but most are charging 4 K now (4 k ST + 1 k BF so 5 k total). Beer Sing, 165-200 baht. Ladydrinks, usually 200 thb. Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering. I do this every time and have never had any pushback for it from the girl or waitress (I usually just buy 2-3 LDs, have never had a girl refuse ST before).

[EverythingThai]

Just got back from Soi Cowboy tonight and honestly, it was madness. Songkran has the whole area packed and wild. Couldn't get anything done properly with the crowds, water, and general chaos everywhere.

Instead of wasting more time, I called up a girl I know from ThaiFriendly. She was already out partying in Nana (of course), and I figured she would be reluctant to leave the action, so I made her an offer she couldn't refuse. She's on her way over now.

Moral of the story: during Songkran, sometimes it's better to have a backup plan ready. Personally, I can't stand Songkran but at least the night looks like it's going to end well.

Stay safe out there.

[ElMexicant]

As long as the chick has nice smooth skin, I don't really care about her complexion. Dark, white, brown, you name it. To me pussy is pussy. It's all pink in there. Nice, warm, gooey and pink. What I wouldn't give to go back to Thailand again. *sigh*.Had girl strip once and was looking like a zebra due to tan lines. I couldn't get hard. Paid 500 baht for her to leave.

[Downandup]

Just got back from Soi Cowboy tonight and honestly, it was madness.Cross off Cowboy from my plans for next Saturday, I hope that Sunday it's all over.

[UglyAzzMan]

Government says Suck-kran good for business.

Wet people don't Spend Money.

I m staying home Sunday night.

Is anyone spending more because it's Suck-kran?

[BionicMan]

Just got back from Soi Cowboy tonight and honestly, it was madness. Songkran has the whole area packed and wild. Couldn't get anything done properly with the crowds, water, and general chaos everywhere.

Stay safe out there.It's for entertaining the tourists and let them live the Songkran experience LOL.

[EverythingThai]

Cross off Cowboy from my plans for next Saturday, I hope that Sunday it's all over.Don't worry in Bangkok it's all over by then. Thursday, Friday Saturday of next week things are normal. Unlike Pattaya where it goes on still.

[Vicky Cooper]

I'm arriving in BKK 21st April morning. Will there still be water activity on the streets or will it be over by then. Last year my holiday was ruined with water being thrown at me.

[Jarjarmissa]

Here for Songkran (believe it not, anyway.).

- Thursday. Hotel half way between BTS Nana and Asoke.

A tour to Thermae. All girls 4-6 max so it was a no go for me. Finally picked a girl in the street. Front of Sofitel - 29 why, look younger as usual, 2500 be for 1 hour. Not the best experience ever, still jet lagged.

- Friday. Following recommandation read here, and the nice note in Google maps, I decide to goto Wonder Massage. Price list is in the website. A lot of girls are off for Songkran. My girl told me that Wonder has 100 customers per day. It is a plant. Was really disappointed. It could have been better with a robot. Shower, massage, BBBJ and CIM, bath. Don't even remember her name. Will not go again.

- Saturday / Sunday: it is Songkran. Totally crazy. Street are wet wet wet. Really fun if you want to enjoy only the event (Sanam luang for families. Silom Peg13 - Khao san road Peg18). No chance to go out without been splashed. Recommandation: Grab and goto La Belle ou others. Expensive but safe.

I stay at Ruamchit hotel and enjoy the scene. Girls in and out of the hotel with their customers (I have heard girl with a Japanese in the lobby asking him 3500 for one shot + room). 3500 from Thermae vs 5500 or 6500 at La Belle, I do not hesitate even 1 sec.

It will be done on Wednesday so next week will be better to enjoy nana and others.

[ElMexicant]

So if some of your don't know, this is now a confirmed thing. I am 1000% sure anybody who will have tickets, especially VIP or tent packages, will be able to pretty much fuck any girl in Bangkok without rejection. Thailand is the first Asean country to be able to host this global event. If you don't know what Tomorrowland is, then ignore this. The girls will spot out fraudsters real quick. Learn to love Sia and Dua Lipa. Normally, I don't like to share insider tips, but these tickets resale well over their face value always. Buy early and hold onto them late. I've done this before where I flash my receipt confirmation and QR codes for the event and "promise" to take GG Bar girls with the golden pussy to the events. Strippers like to play and hustle, but some of us are oooh so much better at it than them. Revelations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3_EFWkP2RU (Video was a month old. It is now confirmed. 555).

[Newton York]

Tan lines on chicks are ok dude. The chicks are still hot, and sometimes tan lines make them even hotter. Even if it's extreme tan lines.

[MongerHunger]

Will there still be water activity on the streets or will it be over by then. Last year my holiday was ruined with water being thrown at me.You have absolutely nothing to worry about. This year, Songkran will be a water-free because someone complained about getting wet during the festival.

[Llantarnam]

Tan lines on chicks are ok dude. The chicks are still hot, and sometimes tan lines make them even hotter. Even if it's extreme tan lines.I don't mind what colour a girl is, but always found it best if they are the same colour all over.

[TJ222]

I have spent a lot of time in Nana over the past few weeks. One or two places I went to charged 3 k (3 k ST + 1 k BF = 4 k) or 3. 5 k (3. 5 k ST + 1 k BF = 4. 5 k), but most are charging 4 K now (4 k ST + 1 k BF so 5 k total). Beer Sing, 165-200 baht. Ladydrinks, usually 200 thb. Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering. I do this every time and have never had any pushback for it from the girl or waitress (I usually just buy 2-3 LDs, have never had a girl refuse ST before).Yeah, was in Bunny 3. There were girls from one of the Rainbows dancing there.

My two drinks + 3 single lady drinks was roughly 1000.

ST was quoted as 1. 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl.

[Nyezhov]

I have spent a lot of time in Nana over the past few weeks. One or two places I went to charged 3 k (3 k ST + 1 k BF = 4 k) or 3. 5 k (3. 5 k ST + 1 k BF = 4. 5 k), but most are charging 4 K now (4 k ST + 1 k BF so 5 k total). Beer Sing, 165-200 baht. Ladydrinks, usually 200 thb. Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering. I do this every time and have never had any pushback for it from the girl or waitress (I usually just buy 2-3 LDs, have never had a girl refuse ST before).The rule in Nana has always been hold up your finger and say ONE Lady drink Krap. Cowboy too. Its a habit you all should have.

[Zam007]

I had been to BKK a few weeks back for 2 days to catch a flight to China and took a this naughty time off. I didn't go to the gogo bars because I had to sleep and wake up on time. Stuck with trusted and reliable mps like Hunny bunny. But I had been itching to take a spinner back to my hotel from gogo.

I noticed a lot of nice looking girls in Bacara. Even though they are overpriced, I would like to know how much do they expect be paid.

Thanks to everyone for giving an idea of the updated prices.

[Banana Boi]

Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering.Always check your bin when you get a new one after each drink order. If it says 2 drinks (double) have them take the drink and bin back and say you didn't order that. Never be pushed around by bars in Thailand.

I can see this happening often at super tourist Nana and Cowboy. Care to name the gogo bars that do this?

I have never had this happen in a Pattaya gogo bar and I've bought 1000's of LD over the years.

[Jarjarmissa]

Monday evening, terrific on Sukhumvit. They are supposed to stop splashing but it is up to them. Quite difficult to reach my fav diner place. Krua Khun Puk -, I succeed by walking down the street and not on the walkside where water battle are in progress. This Songkran is really fun. Unless you want to do something not wet then it becomes a nightmare.

Anyway, diner done are then Thermae. We are 3 or 4 Caucasians and 100 asiat. So clearly except the 3 on Dick scale smile at us. The line up is not attractive (from 3 to 6 maybe) so after a drink I decide to give up and go back to the hotel in Sukhumvit15 at midnight. Oh street is calm. No water machine gun to avoid.

Few hours of scouting (Tinder is KO in Thailand. TF a bit better. Finally I catch 4 girls via WeChat. Last app to propose "Nearby connected people" Finally I do not conclude with the girls (2 FL 4000 and 6000 baths no way and 2 tourists reluctant to visit a man at 2 or 3 am).

Finally I try something for the 1st time (I go against some advise here), I call for a outcall massage of 2 hours for 1000 baths (yes 1000,26 euros for 2 hours).

I can then confirm 3 points:

1- Photos are fake. The agency sends pic "alike" but it is not same girl.

2- Good massage (she is only 4 but she is good at what she does).

3- Extra suggested at the end: Full service 4000 (fuck off) - CBJ 3000 (fuck off) - HK 1500. Not enough attractive to fuck her, but nice boobs I ended up with a self HJ on them.

Total: Massage 1000 + tips 500 for 2 hours service on my king size. Next time I try again but to find a beautiful girl.

(Massage agency 24/7 : Jenny outcall massage, google is your friend. Do I recommand yes and no, it depends what you want). I remain a huge fan of La Belle or Poseidon. Expensive but for good reason.

Concerning the outcall massage I will maybe renew but only for what it is, a massage.

[EverythingThai]

Monday evening, terrific on Sukhumvit. They are supposed to stop splashing but it is up to them. Quite difficult to reach my fav diner place. Krua Khun Puk -, I succeed by walking down the street and not on the walkside where water battle are in progress. This Songkran is really fun. Unless you want to do something not wet then it becomes a nightmare.

Anyway, diner done are then Thermae. We are 3 or 4 Caucasians and 100 asiat. So clearly except the 3 on Dick scale smile at us. The line up is not attractive (from 3 to 6 maybe) so after a drink I decide to give up and go back to the hotel in Sukhumvit15 at midnight. Oh street is calm. No water machine gun to avoid.

Few hours of scouting (Tinder is KO in Thailand. TF a bit better. Finally I catch 4 girls via WeChat. Last app to propose "Nearby connected people" Finally I do not conclude with the girls (2 FL 4000 and 6000 baths no way and 2 tourists reluctant to visit a man at 2 or 3 am).

Finally I try something for the 1st time (I go against some advise here), I call for a outcall massage of 2 hours for 1000 baths (yes 1000,26 euros for 2 hours).

I can then confirm 3 points:

1- Photos are fake. The agency sends pic "alike" but it is not same girl.

2- Good massage (she is only 4 but she is good at what she does).

3- Extra suggested at the end: Full service 4000 (fuck off) - CBJ 3000 (fuck off) - HK 1500. Not enough attractive to fuck her, but nice boobs I ended up with a self HJ on them.

Total: Massage 1000 + tips 500 for 2 hours service on my king size. Next time I try again but to find a beautiful girl.

(Massage agency 24/7 : Jenny outcall massage, google is your friend. Do I recommand yes and no, it depends what you want). I remain a huge fan of La Belle or Poseidon. Expensive but for good reason.

Concerning the outcall massage I will maybe renew but only for what it is, a massage.


I had been to BKK a few weeks back for 2 days to catch a flight to China and took a this naughty time off. I didn't go to the gogo bars because I had to sleep and wake up on time. Stuck with trusted and reliable mps like Hunny bunny. But I had been itching to take a spinner back to my hotel from gogo.

I noticed a lot of nice looking girls in Bacara. Even though they are overpriced, I would like to know how much do they expect be paid.

Thanks to everyone for giving an idea of the updated prices.A note on Bangkok's evolution:

The Bangkok scene isn't what it was five or ten years ago. Some still post like it is. But the city has shifted, girls are savvier, social media has changed the freelancer landscape, and access to certain experiences now comes with a price tag. If you're basing your expectations on decade-old posts or nostalgia, you're going to be disappointed. Adapt or get left behind.

First: Negotiation is still possible.

Just because someone quotes you 4000 Baht doesn't mean it's non-negotiable. If the vibe is good and you're respectful, you can often agree on something more reasonable. That said, this isn't Pattaya, expecting 1000-2000 Baht ST quotes from freelancers in Bangkok is out of touch, especially in the more central zones.

Second: City dynamics affect pricing.

Bangkok is big. Girls need to travel, often from across the city, and they're not hopping on a scooter like in Pattaya. They have jobs, routines, and day-to-day lives. In their minds, it needs to be worth the trip, and for many of them, that means higher pricing.

Third: Thai Friendly has a different vibe in Bangkok.

While in Pattaya 90% of TF girls are freelancers or semi-pros, Bangkok is a mix, maybe 50/50, or even less. A lot of "normal" girls are on there looking for dating, language exchange, serious relationships and yes, occasional pay for play. This waters down your options, and when you do find a freelancer, they price accordingly. Again: different city, different market.

Fourth: Tourist zones = tourist pricing, but also quality.

Yes, places like Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Patpong are more expensive. But they also attract some of the most attractive and polished girls. Not always, but often. If you're looking for top-tier looks and service, expect to pay more, and understand why.

Fifth: Other options exist.

Massage shops, BJ bars, and even Thai-style clubs like T-Ded 99 (if you speak Thai) offer much more value. You'll also find girls in areas like Ratchada and Lat Phrao who cater to Thai and Asian clientele, again, the experience is more discreet and uninhibited. Just know: language and local knowledge help a lot in these cases. Ratchada and more specifically Ratchada Soi 17 is just one of these areas. Some of the night clubs will also have freelancers. However, their pricing is all over the map. Some are high and some are more reasonable.

WeChat, Tinder, and other apps?

Lots of ladyboys, lots of scams, and prices can go either way. Proceed with caution.

As for the poster who balked at a 4000 Baht quote:

Assuming he expected 3000 Baht as more reasonable, what followed was a time-wasting adventure with a massage girl he ended up with. Honestly, I would have paid 3500, or maybe countered at 3000, and sealed the deal. Instead, the guy wasted hours and ended up jerking himself off on an ugly girls tits. That said, he took one for the team, and posted back, which is more than most do. Respect.

Final note:

If you want to play in Bangkok with the hottest girls, you need to accept that it's going to cost you. And if you don't want to pay Bangkok prices, Pattaya is two hours away. The market is what it is, either adjust your budget, or find the part of the city that matches it. It's just not realistic to expect the same pricing in Bangkok as it was in 2012 today.


No such problems using TF in Bangkok. Bigger place so more girls to choose from, always plenty available 24/7 and if traffic is bad most hop on the back of a bike anyway. Don't create imaginary hurdles that don't actually exist!

It seems that Jarjarmissa didnt have quite as easy of a time with Thai Friendly in Bangkok as the above poster claims. I dont even think Bangkok has more girls on TF than Pattaya does. This is a stat I would like to investigate further. I would bet that Pattaya has more girls using TF and most of those girls are selling pay for play. In Bangkok, there are less ladies and only some are selling pay for play. The punters who think every lady on TF is a freelancer in Bangkok and other areas except Pattaya and Phuket are dead wrong and if they dont be careful, they may have issues arising from propositioning a normal girl. There are so many regular girls in Bangkok and they dont all use Thai Friendly. To assume that is crazy. The majority of the girls in Bangkok are not even looking for a foreign boyfriend or a foreign customer. If you think Bangkok revolves around foreign tourists and all the girls are wanting to cater to them, you are so far out of touch with reality that it is not funny.

This is why being realistic is very important. In my opinion 3000 Baht is a realistic starting point and then it can go up from there based on many factors such as venue, location, quality of the girl and the services you require. A massage shop might be a little less and a freelancer or bar girl might be a little more. But if you budget 3000 Baht per encounter, you will be safe. Hope this helps.

[EverythingThai]

So this was last full day. Wake up late, did BF, went to rooftop pool had a wine while I was there and then comeback to room. Took shower and was sitting and Earthquake happened. Stayed in room, went under the table and once it stopped, picked up my passport came outside hotel in huddle area.

Entire hotel was standing and people were running and some were really scared. Some from buildings and hotels beyond our alley were still running and coming out.

Fear factor was high for an hour and then people started drinking beers in the bars.

But most of locals were not going back in.

I had an irish bar 3 minutes walking from my hotel and it had people sitting out and drinking beer. I too joined them. FYI. I am pretty used to EQ's where I live but this one was one of the scariest and longest I experienced.

I too went to a bar across the street from Irish bar and ordered beer.

Some of the patrons in the bar were a german couple, britt and American gentlemen and we just chatted and talked about what happened and shared some experiences.

My original plan was to LT / outcall a girl from Addict. I messaged mamamsan on line to confirm if the girls had started and no reply came. This was couple of hours after EQ. I went for lunch and decided to take some genuine massage. Searched on phone and had one relax spa (seems like a chain) and another one right across my hotel (almost a full building) showed up. Both were 5 minutes walking in opposite directions. Went to both and they were both closed.

It was at this time I realized the traffic was all stuck and BTS was also not running.

My OG plan of final day- of LT from addict in the afternoon, Soapy in evening and Billboard pickup from NP was all looking like falling apart.

I messaged few others on Line and most didn't responded and some responded like closed and few responded with pics of who all were available. BTS was not running, no cars were moving.

Behind my hotel is massage shops. All genuine and I decided lets go to one of those and get the massage.

Went for oil massage the guy took me in and washed my feet and then I told him that I want a female masseur. Since this was genuine massage I kept the undies. Lady came in and started the massage and told me to take off the underwear. Took it off. Massage started and it was a regular massage but on flip she asked me if I want a release. I said why not. She quoted me 2000. I said skip it. I didn't wanted it plus she was ok not a stunner and there was no way she would take her clothes off. There was a curtain that closed the massage area. Anyhow she said what I want to give. I said 600 for massage and 400 for her.

She started and gave me a HJ. She did it very discreetly and was paying close attention to outside noise while jerking me.

So I got a genuine massage and paid another 400 for HJ.

Came out and next to this shop was a bar with pool tables. I still had few hours to kill before heading to Soapy. Saw a real pretty girl sitting inside. I went and sat opposite her. Ordered beer and asked how does the pool thing work.

My focus was on the girl only. She looked like a local girl was dressed nicely with nails done well. I would have asked her to join me in drink but I stopped because she had 2 bottles of water on her table. I thought she was waiting for someone. Any how I had a beer to finish and I got drink for my waitress and other one as well and started pool with one of the waitress (she was like 50 ish) but all I was trying to do was.

1. See if I can strike a conversation with the girl sitting right across.

2. Ask the waitresses if they get FL's that hang out late at night.

Played 2 games and finished my beer and this girl was still sitting alone and then suddenly one of the 2 guys who were playing pool in adjacent table came and talked to this girl. Looked like her boyfriend but for last 35 minutes this dude didn't came to say Hi to her and she was dead bored all this time.

My plan was to ask her to join us for next game but glad I didn't. I asked the waitress and then gave me inconclusive answers if FL will be there at night. Wrapped up and left after beer and pool.

Now traffic was still there. I walked to thermae and it was closed.

Called La belle and no one was picking and IVR kept saying some stuff in Thai. I checked and Cab was showing 45 minutes and walking was 29 minutes. It was at this time I realized many things will be closed. I decided today is the day I spend all my time at Nana Plaza. Got ready walked and fuuuuccccccck. It was closed. The entire complex was dark.

I said let me pick someone from street. I decided to go back and pick someone on street. Talked with few but didn't liked anyone. Then outside thermae saw few beauties. I talked with few and checked them out. Finally like one 26 year old and she asked for 3 K for ST. Told her BJ with no condom ok but she was bad at English. Had another 40 year old who came over to explain it to her and she said ok. Then all of sudden old 40 year old said she too can join. I told her I only want younger one then all of a sudden she said money in advance.

I told older one I do not pay advance and ignored her. I talked directly to this younger girl. I gave her my hand and said I will take care of her and my hotel is 5 minutes walk. She stood and held my hand and we started walking. She was wearing right size heal, ripped jeans and tank top with pretty big boobs. She had that Girl next door look.

Walked to my hotel, went to room. Did some foreplay. Told here to undress in front of me. She took shower. I made myself a drink and she came out wrapped in towel. I then went for shower and when I came out she had turned of most of the lights. Started with BJ, she sucked great and I just kept asking her to do more and more. Very nice eye contact. Then did my usual Cowgirl, Doggy and then missionary with DFK. I made her give me a long BJ and then another 20 minutes of fucking. I finally came in with slow sensual missionary. Her pussy was just right amount of tight and she was pretty submissive.

Paid the money and said GN. Final day had a great ending.

It was a 4 day trip. Did missed out on Soapies and Billboard and also BC or Pimp. So next time.

I did used TF, WeChat, Telegram and Line. I will share my experience with all these in separate post. This forum is great and I had great time learning and exchanging notes from folks in this forum.I would like to thank Crater77 for his most recent realistic reports about Bangkok. This is just one of the many examples. Nothing in here about propositioning street vendors or the promise of taking a girl to Tomorrow Land next year by showing here fake tickets in exchange for sex. Just solid reporting. These are the things that count on ISG. Thanks again Crater. I am glad you had a great time in Soi Cowboy. I'm also sorry to read about the doorman at Crazy House asking you to pay an entry fee. That is not the norm but I have witnessed that happening on Soi Cowboy to Indian dudes. Regardless of your nationality or race, you should not be treated that way. As I have again seen, either some doormen will ask these guys to pay an entry fee or ask them to buy their 1st drink outside before they are allowed in. You did the right thing to walk away. Another bar was happy to take your money. One tip for you for Crazy House. If you ever want to go back, just say last time you were there you didn't have to pay any entry fee. Let them think you have been before. No excuse for that idiot door man. You were clearly there to spend money and proved it the next spot you went in. Their loss. I love Baccara too. I just like the idea of Crazy House as it's the closest to a Pattaya gents club as you can get in Bangkok with the exception of the pricing, which is much higher. The girls are fully naked and walking around the club and you can do shit with them upstairs on the 2nd floor sometimes. Anyways, thanks again, I enjoyed reading all of your reports. Hope you will return again soon and report.

[Luis2]

Returned last week from 1st trip to pattaya, Bangkok. Great and fun time. I think on all fronts Bangkok just cost more. Pattaya my hotels nice, reasonable and included breakfast. Bangkok I stayed between nana, soi cowboy. Hotel older but clean, good location, soy 8 but 20% higher than pattaya, no breakfast and breakfast most places near $10. Also many ladyboys and can be tuff to spot. I had a tourguide and couple nights we sat outside of Nana and watched customers, ladyboys cross by us to go to st hotel. Most returned in 20-30 minute times pan so ladyboys must please many quickly. There were many freelancers in same area and few had business. And again all massage places more money than pattaya. I got quotes at wood bar and couple massage places. Wood bar was mid, late afternoon and selection poor, did not partake. I'm retirement age so pattaya targeted 30 plus year old ladies and couple places had 1000 baht barfine but easy to find ST for 1000-2500 all in and more difficult to find in Bangkok. BTS is great transportation in Bangkok. Used it many times including airport to leave. Very smooth, fast and great price.

[EverythingThai]

Returned last week from 1st trip to pattaya, Bangkok. Great and fun time. I think on all fronts Bangkok just cost more. Pattaya my hotels nice, reasonable and included breakfast. Bangkok I stayed between nana, soi cowboy. Hotel older but clean, good location, soy 8 but 20% higher than pattaya, no breakfast and breakfast most places near $10. Also many ladyboys and can be tuff to spot. I had a tourguide and couple nights we sat outside of Nana and watched customers, ladyboys cross by us to go to st hotel. Most returned in 20-30 minute times pan so ladyboys must please many quickly. There were many freelancers in same area and few had business. And again all massage places more money than pattaya. I got quotes at wood bar and couple massage places. Wood bar was mid, late afternoon and selection poor, did not partake. I'm retirement age so pattaya targeted 30 plus year old ladies and couple places had 1000 baht barfine but easy to find ST for 1000-2500 all in and more difficult to find in Bangkok. BTS is great transportation in Bangkok. Used it many times including airport to leave. Very smooth, fast and great price.Another realistic report, great job. Would love more details about where you went and what happened.

[Tommylove]

I ran into a real pretty and sweet bargirl in front of Rainbow 5. I chatted her up but didn't get her name. Only that she worked at Rainbow 5 and that she was "half Japanese and half Thai". Any of you know her name, story and details? Here's a pic of her I managed to catch .

[NicFrenchy]

A note on Bangkok's evolution:

The Bangkok scene isn't what it was five or ten years ago. Some still post like it is. But the city has shifted, girls are savvier, social media has changed the freelancer landscape, and access to certain experiences now comes with a price tag. If you're basing your expectations on decade-old posts or nostalgia, you're going to be disappointed. Adapt or get left behind.Absolutely this!

I was just on X (Twitter) and pulled 5 girls (3 hookers and 2 regular):

The Hookers:

These girls only write in Thai, cater to the Thai market but when they see you're polite and have been here more than 20 years, look clean. They will respond.

However, if you're going to go with Thai "Social media girls", be ready for some discrimination. They all have (No Indian) in their profile (bad experience or unfair stereotype), and they charge according to your pecker's size. It's +300 THB for size 52, add another +300 THB for size 54 and 56 are just outright rejected.

Prices are Crazy, many want you to access their paid locked account first (where their nudes are), then charge you for a video call (they will never meet before seeing you first) and if you want to see them, it's reservations only, 500 THB deposit and you either go to their place or prepay their roundtrip.

Prices are very similar:

1500/40 minutes, 1 water (Thais use water instead of "shot" or "cum".

1800/60 minutes 1 water + massage.

2500/90 minutes 2 water + massage.

5500. For 24 hours, Unlimited water + massage, 8 hours of sleep with no service.

The regular girls:

Very very difficult, one has to be very patient, have a good profile, many photos, or these girls will NOT give you the time of day.

Hundreds of Thai guys are commenting on their pics, videos, posts. Be it TikTok, X, Instagram, Facebook. They gets hundreds of guys. All is in Thai, so for her to go through the trouble of translating your text (yes I write in English). If she's lazy that time or day, she will not even bother.

Eventually, she will notice and if she's open minded, she will talk.

Some are a waste of time as all they want to do is practice their English, some are just curious and waste your time just to see how far they can push you. Some are open to meet for a meal and either just want to have fun or want a sugar daddy (they're not really in for a serious relationship).

And, these girls still live in the dream that all White guys are millionaires, so many will want to go eat at fancy places.

As EverythingThai said, it's not for the cheap!

[EverythingThai]

I ran into a real pretty and sweet bargirl in front of Rainbow 5. I chatted her up but didn't get her name. Only that she worked at Rainbow 5 and that she was "half Japanese and half Thai". Any of you know her name, story and details? Here's a pic of her I managed to catch .I don't know about you, but if I were you and you are still in Bangkok, I would just go back and drink with her and take her out of the bar. Hell if you don't do it, I will. She looks hot as hell. Just my style of BKK girl, and her being half Japanese as well makes me want her more without even meeting her first. I know where I'm going tomorrow. She wont be cheap though, in the words of Roberto vs the world, “WHO CARES!”

[Paolo99]

I ran into a real pretty and sweet bargirl in front of Rainbow 5. I chatted her up but didn't get her name. Only that she worked at Rainbow 5 and that she was "half Japanese and half Thai". Any of you know her name, story and details? Here's a pic of her I managed to catch .I don't know her but I can tell about her story and details.

Being "half Japanese and half Thai" means in reality she is born 100% Thai but paid for a few surgeries to look different than natural Thais.

[Sher In2]

We are a group of four Indians on a bachelor trip. Looking to get some lap dances and maybe a little casual flirting / contact (like dancing) nothing too sexual.

Was looking at Karaoke bars in Soi Thaniya based on my research. But I've seen reports saying they are only open for the Japanese. Could anyone in the forum please help on where we can get some strippers or hostess to get some lap dances and / or party with. (Any details on pricing would also help to avoid getting scammed).

We also have have decent 5-star hotel booked so maybe we could host in our rooms too?

My DMs are also open. Any help / advise would be truly appreciated.

[Nyezhov]

Another realistic report, great job. Would love more details about where you went and what happened.A realistic report that's a great job that lacks details.

[Tommylove]

I don't know her but I can tell about her story and details.
Being "half Japanese and half Thai" means in reality she is born 100% Thai but paid for a few surgeries to look different than natural Thais.Haha, you're probably right.

However, her English was pretty good, and she was lighter skinned than your typical Isaan farm girl.

My sense was that she's from Bangkok and is perfecting the art of demanding more than 5 k ฿ ST fee. I mean, she was like, dipped in butter sauce.

I would have gone for a spin with her, but I had just been milked at a blowjob bar. Plus. I had an early flight out the next day.

Anyway, I've left Bangkok but will be returning in a month, so I was hoping for a name to search for to pass the time. However, Rainbow 5 has lots of pretty girls to serve as a consolation prize.

[HorseTrader]

... and they charge according to your pecker's size. It's +300 THB for size 52, add another +300 THB for size 54 and 56 are just outright rejected.Fantastic, I'll get a discount!

[NicFrenchy]

Being "half Japanese and half Thai" means in reality she is born 100% Thai but paid for a few surgeries to look different than natural Thais.She wasn't half-Japanese, she just said that to "stand-out" and add another couple thousands to the fee for her being an "exotic" find. Lots of Thais have some degree of Chinese blood so that's not uncommon enough, Japanese sounds better.

[UglyAzzMan]

I ran into a real pretty and sweet bargirl in front of Rainbow 5. I chatted her up but didn't get her name. Only that she worked at Rainbow 5 and that she was "half Japanese and half Thai". Any of you know her name, story and details? Here's a pic of her I managed to catch .Look good from the side.

I don't recall anything looking like that last week. I'm sure her Hair would get her noticed unless her face is Ugly.