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We are a group of four Indians on a bachelor trip. Looking to get some lap dances and maybe a little casual flirting / contact (like dancing) nothing too sexual.
Was looking at Karaoke bars in Soi Thaniya based on my research. But I've seen reports saying they are only open for the Japanese. Could anyone in the forum please help on where we can get some strippers or hostess to get some lap dances and / or party with. (Any details on pricing would also help to avoid getting scammed).
We also have have decent 5-star hotel booked so maybe we could host in our rooms too?
My DMs are also open. Any help / advise would be truly appreciated.Google The PIMP BKK.
SinCitySinner1
04-17-25, 03:09
We are a group of four Indians on a bachelor trip. Looking to get some lap dances and maybe a little casual flirting / contact (like dancing) nothing too sexual.
Was looking at Karaoke bars in Soi Thaniya based on my research. But I've seen reports saying they are only open for the Japanese. Could anyone in the forum please help on where we can get some strippers or hostess to get some lap dances and / or party with. (Any details on pricing would also help to avoid getting scammed).
We also have have decent 5-star hotel booked so maybe we could host in our rooms too?
My DMs are also open. Any help / advise would be truly appreciated.I am told that Indians traveling in groups are most likely to be discriminated against due to their history of behavior that is not favorable to the establishment. This type of discrimination is seen, usually, in GoGo bars. I know you said Karaoke bar, but just wanted to put it out there to make sure you are aware of it.
UglyAzzMan
04-17-25, 04:10
Google The PIMP BKK.Indian s bro. Don't send them to ZIMP. .
Hahaha. Hahaha.
EverythingThai
04-17-25, 09:51
How can she look as hot as hell when all you see is a side view, no face?
Not half japanese either.
But hey give us a report as to how hot she is, since you're going to do a sight unseen. Make sure you invent lots of details and costs.I guess you have never heard of sarcasm.
We are a group of four Indians on a bachelor trip. Looking to get some lap dances and maybe a little casual flirting / contact (like dancing) nothing too sexual.
Was looking at Karaoke bars in Soi Thaniya based on my research. But I've seen reports saying they are only open for the Japanese. Could anyone in the forum please help on where we can get some strippers or hostess to get some lap dances and / or party with. (Any details on pricing would also help to avoid getting scammed).
We also have have decent 5-star hotel booked so maybe we could host in our rooms too?
My DMs are also open. Any help / advise would be truly appreciated.I can see so many ways for things to go wrong. But to give you the benefit of the doubt, PIMP does sound like the type of place you are looking for. But only go if you are prepared to pay THB20,000 per person for a night of 3-4 hours, AT LEAST. That means each person takes a girl to fondle for a couple of hours and a few bottles to share. You'll also need to tip staff well and show them that you are committed to dropping wads of cash as soon you are in. None of this 'let me see and then decide' BS, no sharing of one bottle between 4 guys and sharing of one girl, and no haggling and no other tactics to cut costs.
Costs for food drink, room and entertainment time can be communicated to you as soon as you arrive and everything you consume will be calculated by the club and printed onto your receipt, including payment for the girls. If you don't try to scam them, likely they won't try to scam you. And if you are generous beyond what's printed on the receipt, you will likely do well. When Koreans and Japeanse visit they drop cash and care later. That's the point. Hell, the US strip clubs have made this sort of thing an art. I got lessons on how to make it rain when I was last in the US and I tell you what, it's damn fun!
If this doesn't sound like your type of thing then you can try your luck at the go-gos or where the locals go but that is much more sex oriented and as mentioned here you might need to pay penance for the sins of others.
In general, I find this to be true the world. Finding women to party with (and I mean really party) is far far more expensive than finding just a blow job and sex.
I don't think anyone needs guidance on how to find cheap sex in Thailand. Quality entertainment is harder to find.
ElectroMan99
04-18-25, 11:49
I'm recently divorced after years of no-Sex marriage. I'm looking to do a solo mongering trip to Thailand however I'm quite scared to catch STDs. I'm aware of PreP and PEP and Hep / HPV vaccines. And of course, Planning on using condoms. Is there anything else I should be doing? Like only going through an good agency or asking for a latest test report from the girl?
NicFrenchy
04-18-25, 14:52
I'm recently divorced after years of no-Sex marriage. I'm looking to do a solo mongering trip to Thailand however I'm quite scared to catch STDs. I'm aware of PreP and PEP and Hep / HPV vaccines. And of course, Planning on using condoms. Is there anything else I should be doing? Like only going through an good agency or asking for a latest test report from the girl?You're already doing a lot more than any other guys out there. I think you should be OK with these. You have a great plan. But Thailand has a way, it enchants you like a snake-charmer and next thing you know, you're having bareback sex.
1. Do NOT fall in love with a bar / massage girl.
2. Do NOT repeat with the same girl and let her accompany you, she will ruin your mongering experience.
3. Do NOT let the girls impale you raw (yes, it does happen more often than one thinks).
I remember a girls from Euro Massage (Inside Euro Inn) who begged me to get her pregnant because she wanted a half / Farang baby.
Keep a cool head and you should be safe enough.
Ratdesert31
04-18-25, 17:12
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Omfgitzjin
04-19-25, 02:45
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?
Newton York
04-19-25, 06:00
I'm recently divorced after years of no-Sex marriage. I'm looking to do a solo mongering trip to Thailand however I'm quite scared to catch STDs. I'm aware of PreP and PEP and Hep / HPV vaccines. And of course, Planning on using condoms. Is there anything else I should be doing? Like only going through an good agency or asking for a latest test report from the girl?ElectroMan, my good sir. Asking a working girl in Thailand for a test report? Hoping an agency will do that? I don't know dude. This is Thailand, and it's not really a thing. It's always going to be a risk in Thailand, about as much as in Europe. You've done all you can do. But since it's Thailand, and if you've got the cash, and if you can keep an eye on the chick every day as she's with you, you can feasibly arrange a multi day booking with a girl. Almost all of them will do it, since it means cash. Have her tested at the beginning of the first day of booking, and then fuck her to your hearts content until the last day. But I would say if you're going to hobby, then the risk of std's are going to be par for the course. It is what it is.
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?Easy to arrange in a go go bar. Girls often suggest it themselves when they have a friend with whom they are comfortable doing it. A couple of trips back when Erotica bar in Nana Plaza was located off the stairs between the levels, I had a great all nighter with two of the girls who worked there. Can't remember what I paid, but it would be a lot more now. Pretty sure I got a discount for taking two though (not on the barfines of course). My other Bangkok threesome was with two African girls I pulled off the street near Soi Cowboy. On neither occasion was I actively looking for a threesome. I don't think you'll have any trouble finding what you're after.
Steve 9696
04-19-25, 15:24
I'm recently divorced after years of no-Sex marriage. I'm looking to do a solo mongering trip to Thailand however I'm quite scared to catch STDs. I'm aware of PreP and PEP and Hep / HPV vaccines. And of course, Planning on using condoms. Is there anything else I should be doing? Like only going through an good agency or asking for a latest test report from the girl?Dude. You just said you plan to use condoms. You are all set. Obviously use good judgement and don't pick up straight trash on the streets but the girls will be thrilled you want to use condoms and the chances of catching anything are vanishingly small. You don't need Prep and Doxy and all that. Condoms will cover it. So to speak. 😝.
Ranvir 226
04-20-25, 04:02
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?IN my opinion, best place is, massage parlour. There are many, where they mention clearly in their menu, with rates and also which staffs are doing it. ITS very trasparent.
To clarify, I spoke with her for a bit. Her face was gorgeous and she really was sweet.
I didn't feel comfortable asking for a photo, as the security guys were running around saying no photos, so I snuck a side shot to remember her.
If you have any actual intel to share, please do.
Haha, you're probably right.
However, her English was pretty good, and she was lighter skinned than your typical Isaan farm girl.
My sense was that she's from Bangkok and is perfecting the art of demanding more than 5 k ฿ ST fee. I mean, she was like, dipped in butter sauce.
I would have gone for a spin with her, but I had just been milked at a blowjob bar. Plus. I had an early flight out the next day.
Anyway, I've left Bangkok but will be returning in a month, so I was hoping for a name to search for to pass the time. However, Rainbow 5 has lots of pretty girls to serve as a consolation prize.
A partner of mine from Asia and me want to monger with a few girls and were considering Thailand, does anyone know if it'll be easy to get SW's to agree a price and for example come to our hotel to play?
A partner of mine from Asia and me want to monger with a few girls and were considering Thailand, does anyone know if it'll be easy to get SW's to agree a price and for example come to our hotel to play?Easy of course depends on your price 555.
IN my opinion, best place is, massage parlour. There are many, where they mention clearly in their menu, with rates and also which staffs are doing it. ITS very trasparent.Depending on what type of 'threesome' you are after, you might be left disappointed by a MP threesome. Almost all do advertise '4 hands' massage, but in reality this is quite tame. Usually the girls will take turns in doing sexual acts on you, rarely at the same time. Also rarely will they play with each other. One will usually be more dominant than the other and take the lead.
If you want a PSE type threesome, you might get it alright at the likes of SnowWhite or Tulip but I'd be very specific and upfront with the madam / receptionist on arrival as to what you want and what you expect.
Ranvir 226
04-22-25, 04:39
Depending on what type of 'threesome' you are after, you might be left disappointed by a MP threesome. Almost all do advertise '4 hands' massage, but in reality this is quite tame. Usually the girls will take turns in doing sexual acts on you, rarely at the same time. Also rarely will they play with each other. One will usually be more dominant than the other and take the lead.
If you want a PSE type threesome, you might get it alright at the likes of SnowWhite or Tulip but I'd be very specific and upfront with the madam / receptionist on arrival as to what you want and what you expect.I had shared my opinion, which in your opinion was not the correct answer to the original query, however you have not come out with the solution. Where do you think is the highest possibility to get quality threesome so that forum members could take note. Thanks.
EverythingThai
04-22-25, 05:54
A partner of mine from Asia and me want to monger with a few girls and were considering Thailand, does anyone know if it'll be easy to get SW's to agree a price and for example come to our hotel to play?I have recently seen a few couples looking for this on Thai Friendly. I would try that. Then I would go into a few Go Go bars together and chances are that if any of the girls want to sit with you two, they will also be down for this. Discuss it over a couple of Lady drinks.
EverythingThai
04-22-25, 06:01
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?For me, I hate to say it, but the best place for me for this was always Pattaya. I paid 2 girls 10,000 baht each. They basically did anything and everything for the entire night and again 2 or three times the next day. When I mean anything and everything, I literally mean that. I found the most recent girls on Thai Friendly. I picked them separately and then invited them both to drink first to see if they had chemistry. Then we went back to my condo. So, you could try that in Bangkok too. However, TF in Bangkok is not the same as Pattaya. There are a lot of regular girls on it here. So, be selective and be careful about who you send messages to and feel them out first.
In Bangkok, I have tried to find the same thing, but the girls were not active with each other. The rest was ok though. I would not pay the same in Bangkok unless I could find the same as I find quite easily in Pattaya. That being said, I know some girls in Crazy House on Soi Cowboy that offered me this one time so you could try there. I did not take them up on it as I was there to meet another girl.
Therefore, in summary, try Thai Friendly and Crazy House and if all else fails, head to Pattaya.
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?I've gotten numerous threesomes out of thermae and nana. Ask. Don't cheap charlie. Lay the ground rules.
I had shared my opinion, which in your opinion was not the correct answer to the original query, however you have not come out with the solution. Where do you think is the highest possibility to get quality threesome so that forum members could take note. Thanks.I wasn't answering the original query, I was putting a proceed with caution addendum to your generalised answer that you'll get a 'great' threesome in MP's simply because they advertise '4 hands massage'. If you actually bothered to read my response correctly I already say if you are going the MP route, try Tulip or Snow White as they are reknowned for PSE experience. Again the original member did not specify what he was after, one person's idea of a great threesome will be very different to another.
If you want my personal opinion, to get a great threesome (FMF) in Bangkok, you need to do a bit of legwork, go chat up girls in the bars or video chat online etc, in other words interview girls basically and use your intuition and experience.
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?I've done the 3-some deal a few times, but prefer one on one. Just on the basis of my own experience, I would suggest hitting the small bars on Soi Cowboy (such as Toy Bar, Moonshine, Jungle Jim's). Also the beer garden bars on Soi 7. These joints don't have 20 or 30 or more dancers, so the girls know each other quite well and tend to have closer friendships. My limited experience tells me you have a good chance of arranging a small group grope. Just look for 2 or 3 gals who seem to be associating with each other for an unusually long period of time and go from there if you see anything that you find acceptable.
Sam.
I was in BKK for a conference 2 weeks ago and man did I have a blast!
Day 1.
Had to get my BJ bar fix done, went across to VOVO BJ bar, nice clean set up where they have themed rooms and ladies. I was expecting an out of this world BJ, however, it was relatively crap and I didn't enjoy it at all. Guess my expectations were too high.
As I was walking back on Soi 33, I noticed the line up of a japanese nuru place, I don't remember the name, but I had seen their website earlier, walked in and picked the one who smiled back at me. Amazing Nuru service, with deep throat BBBJ.
Day 2.
Was busy all day at the conference. Didn't get time to anything during the day. Headed to Thermae, walked around and picked freelancer. 3000 B + 700 B for hotel room upstairs.
Lack luster service, very average and mechanical.
Day 3.
I decided to try out Nana plaza, have been to Billboard before, so wanted to try another place. I'm Indian, but am fair skinned and don't look like one, there was small jap place with girls dressed in lingerie which looked very interesting, but they told me 500 B to enter. Went across to Rainbow 4, got a place to sit and a drink, but didn't really like anything. I cut my losses and headed back to Thermae.
Did another walk around and singled in on a nice looking girl. Same 3000 + 700. But this time, I told her will give you an extra 1 k after the session if I get GFE, BBBJ, Kissing with tongue, provided you make me happy. The girl got into it, amazing kisser, nice deep BBBJ great experience.
Day 4.
I found fantasy 8 on the web and it looked interesting, the pictures of the girls clearly stated no silicone, which got me interested. This time I went in for a 3 Some. The girls were avg looking, but great attitude and amazing service with a smile. I didin't like the cleaning of the shaft when switching BJ between the girls, but they were fun.
This was less than 10 min walk from Nana, so I deceided to try again, but this time I went straight back to billboard, and it did not disappoint. Spoke to mamasan and told her I was here to spend some money. She immediately got me a semi private area to sit down and I asked for 3 different girls from the stage and enjoyed 2 lady drinks with each for 400 B each. I didn't really want to take any of them home, but I really had a blast with the lap dances, and virtual open access to their boobs.
Day 5.
Evening flight, decided to head out to Aries for a Nuru massage, and this was by far the best nuru experience I've ever had. The girl was beautiful, petitie and had amazing tits, which she knew how to use. 2 weeks later, I still vividly remember her BBBJ.
BKK was simply fantastic, the girls, the atmosphere, the cost. Can't go wrong.
S.
Thanks Bro. I learnt from the forum. Happy to give it back.
I am planning to be there next year to complete few things that I missed. Hopefully more stories next time.
I would like to thank Crater77 for his most recent realistic reports about Bangkok. This is just one of the many examples. Nothing in here about propositioning street vendors or the promise of taking a girl to Tomorrow Land next year by showing here fake tickets in exchange for sex. Just solid reporting. .
HorseTrader
04-22-25, 17:42
Also the beer garden bars on Soi 7. These joints don't have 20 or 30 or more dancers, so the girls know each other quite well and tend to have closer friendships. My limited experience tells me you have a good chance of arranging a small group grope. Just look for 2 or 3 gals who seem to be associating with each other for an unusually long period of time and go from there if you see anything that you find acceptable.
Sam.My take on Soi 7 is a bit different. There is such a high percentage of unattractive girls that it could be difficult to find two friends that look good enough for a threesome. In my experience, many of the younger good looking Soi 7 girls are "drinks only". If I wanted a threesome, I'd head straight to the go go bars in Nana Plaza and I would expect to pay up around 10,000 - 12,000 baht total (drinks, bar fines, tips, tuk tuk, girl fees).
My take on Soi 7 is a bit different. There is such a high percentage of unattractive girls that it could be difficult to find two friends that look good enough for a threesome. In my experience, many of the younger good looking Soi 7 girls are "drinks only". If I wanted a threesome, I'd head straight to the go go bars in Nana Plaza and I would expect to pay up around 10,000 - 12,000 baht total (drinks, bar fines, tips, tuk tuk, girl fees).I agree the go-go bars are as good a place as any to arrange a threesome, but don't think it should cost more than twice the price of one girl, though that may well end up as 10,000-12,000 as you say. I'd put "threesome" in quotes though, because one can unfortunately not expect the girls to interact with each others in Thailand. Not at all, and most of the stories I've read about thressomes here seem to involve one girl hiding in the bathroom while you're banging the other girl, and then they swap places.
There was some guy here some years ago, named Szyygies or similar, who could find girls that were genuinely bi at the go-gos, but he'd been around soi cowboy / nana for a long time and was a magician as far as I know. For a real threesome, I think the rest of us need a lot of luck, and if you're that lucky you might as well buy some lottery tickets and spend the money you win on flying to a country where real threesomes are available, or accept to bang the grandmothers at the PSE shops.
For that reason it's not something I attempt to do in Thailand, but for what it's worth, last year I had a failed, somewhat unintended, attempt at a threesome in one of the go-go bars at Soi Cowboy. Went something like this:
1) peeked inside and looked around for 30 seconds to see if it was worth sitting down and ordering the mandatory orange juice, before looking more closely at the girls and see if I wanted to take anyone back to my place.
2) sat down with my drink and looked more closely at a pretty girl on the stage. Girl #1, around 22 years old I guessed. Indicated she could join me on the bench. Talked a little bit to gauge things, then offered her a drink. Continued sitting together with girl #1 and eventually doing some very light pecking on the lips while she was sipping her drink.
3) I was eventually also looking at another other girl, girl #2, who I also thought was pretty and smiled a bit at her too. About a year or two younger than girl #1 I guessed, but a bit less my type personality wise, and apparently a friend of girl #1, as girl #2 also came over and was hanging out in front of us, standing and having some laughs with girl #1.
4) after gauging girl #2 for some minutes, I invited her to sit down with us, on my left hand-side and put my other arm around her. Offered girl #2 a drink too, and we chatted a bit while I was discreetly groping them a bit.
5) sat like this for a bit. I had no intention of barfining girl #2 today, but she was pretty company and it was nice to have a pretty girl under each arm, and thought maybe I'll come back for her another day. Eventually started pecking girl #2 a bit on the lips too, and then alternating between girl #1 and #2 without pause, in a feeble attempt to gauge things a little bit regarding how comfortable they were with each others. I was a bit curious whether any of them would mind me kissing them both like that.
6) girl #2 was asking me for another drink, which I said was fine. Ordered another drink for each of them, and we continued chatting about nothing much.
7) a bit after that I asked girl #1 if they'd both like to join me at my place for short-time. Girl #1 said ok, 3000 for each, which was about as expected and ok for me. Somewhere along the line girl #2 got me to order her another drink too, though at this point I remember starting to think she was maybe getting a bit too drunk.
8) don't remember the exact details, but as I was about to pull them out of there, there was some crap about the barfine, and I thought the barfine price was too high. I expected it to be max 1,000, but it was for some reason higher (1500 maybe?) and I was not sure if girl #1 was trying to scam me, or there was something different about the prices in this go-go. In the end I said ok, but then I'll pay them 2500 each instead of 3000 as short-time, which they accepted without too many objections.
9) I indicated girl #1 should get the mamasan and I'd pay the barfines, and girl #1 then said I needed to pay for the short-time also at the bar.
Well, if there is one rule to follow in Thailand regarding freelancers and bargirls, it's that you should pay afterwards not before. Girl #1 however refused this, and I also refused to pay before, so there was no progression and I mai pen rai-ed girl #1 never mind then, though she kept sitting with us.
10) girl #2 was at this point unfortunately rather drunk and had not caught on to what the problem was, so I had to explain it to her. Girl #2 said I could pay her afterward, it was ok for her. I thought about this for a few seconds, as I'd not mind banging girl #2 at all, but at that point she was drunk enough I worried she would pass out and puke all over my bed or something, so instead I bid my adieu to them both.
I agree the go-go bars are as good a place as any to arrange a threesome, but don't think it should cost more than twice the price of one girl, though that may well end up as 10,000-12,000 as you say. I'd put "threesome" in quotes though, because one can unfortunately not expect the girls to interact with each others in Thailand. Not at all, and most of the stories I've read about thressomes here seem to involve one girl hiding in the bathroom while you're banging the other girl, and then they swap places.
There was some guy here some years ago, named Szyygies or similar, who could find girls that were genuinely bi at the go-gos, but he'd been around soi cowboy / nana for a long time and was a magician as far as I know. For a real threesome, I think the rest of us need a lot of luck, and if you're that lucky you might as well buy some lottery tickets and spend the money you win on flying to a country where real threesomes are available, or accept to bang the grandmothers at the PSE shops.
For that reason it's not something I attempt to do in Thailand, but for what it's worth, last year I had a failed, somewhat unintended, attempt at a threesome in one of the go-go bars at Soi Cowboy. Went something like this:
1) peeked inside and looked around for 30 seconds to see if it was worth sitting down and ordering the mandatory orange juice, before looking more closely at the girls and see if I wanted to take anyone back to my place.
2) sat down with my drink and looked more closely at a pretty girl on the stage. Girl #1, around 22 years old I guessed. Indicated she could join me on the bench. Talked a little bit to gauge things, then offered her a drink. Continued sitting together with girl #1 and eventually doing some very light pecking on the lips while she was sipping her drink.
3) I was eventually also looking at another other girl, girl #2, who I also thought was pretty and smiled a bit at her too. About a year or two younger than girl #1 I guessed, but a bit less my type personality wise, and apparently a friend of girl #1, as girl #2 also came over and was hanging out in front of us, standing and having some laughs with girl #1.
4) after gauging girl #2 for some minutes, I invited her to sit down with us, on my left hand-side and put my other arm around her. Offered girl #2 a drink too, and we chatted a bit while I was discreetly groping them a bit.
5) sat like this for a bit. I had no intention of barfining girl #2 today, but she was pretty company and it was nice to have a pretty girl under each arm, and thought maybe I'll come back for her another day. Eventually started pecking girl #2 a bit on the lips too, and then alternating between girl #1 and #2 without pause, in a feeble attempt to gauge things a little bit regarding how comfortable they were with each others. I was a bit curious whether any of them would mind me kissing them both like that.
6) girl #2 was asking me for another drink, which I said was fine. Ordered another drink for each of them, and we continued chatting about nothing much.
7) a bit after that I asked girl #1 if they'd both like to join me at my place for short-time. Girl #1 said ok, 3000 for each, which was about as expected and ok for me. Somewhere along the line girl #2 got me to order her another drink too, though at this point I remember starting to think she was maybe getting a bit too drunk.
8) don't remember the exact details, but as I was about to pull them out of there, there was some crap about the barfine, and I thought the barfine price was too high. I expected it to be max 1,000, but it was for some reason higher (1500 maybe?) and I was not sure if girl #1 was trying to scam me, or there was something different about the prices in this go-go. In the end I said ok, but then I'll pay them 2500 each instead of 3000 as short-time, which they accepted without too many objections.
9) I indicated girl #1 should get the mamasan and I'd pay the barfines, and girl #1 then said I needed to pay for the short-time also at the bar.
Well, if there is one rule to follow in Thailand regarding freelancers and bargirls, it's that you should pay afterwards not before. Girl #1 however refused this, and I also refused to pay before, so there was no progression and I mai pen rai-ed girl #1 never mind then, though she kept sitting with us.
10) girl #2 was at this point unfortunately rather drunk and had not caught on to what the problem was, so I had to explain it to her. Girl #2 said I could pay her afterward, it was ok for her. I thought about this for a few seconds, as I'd not mind banging girl #2 at all, but at that point she was drunk enough I worried she would pass out and puke all over my bed or something, so instead I bid my adieu to them both.As I recall when two girls approached him in a bar and pitched the idea of taking them both for a "threesome", which in my experience used to happen more often several years ago, he would right then and there ask them to kiss each other before inviting them to so much as sit down and chat about it. If they complied and did so with genuine DFK sloppy tongues passion, then he would consider the possibility and proceed. If not, no deal and don't even bother sitting down for a Lady Drink.
Yes, your description of a Thai P4 P "threesome" meaning one hides in the toilet while the other does whatever and then they switch places is pretty much in line with my experience as well. And the only times that aforementioned poster's approach to vetting the candidates has resulted in genuine on the spot DFK sloppy tongue action in the bar, the candidates were so unattractive I suspect I would have been the one hiding in the toilet the whole time.
Threesomes were real and worth the effort for me in The Philippines back in the day. But so far not in Thailand.
EverythingThai
04-23-25, 07:28
There was some guy here some years ago, named Szyygies or similar, who could find girls that were genuinely bi at the go-gos, but he'd been around soi cowboy / nana for a long time and was a magician as far as I know. For a real threesome, I think the rest of us need a lot of luck, and if you're that lucky you might as well buy some lottery tickets and spend the money you win on flying to a country where real threesomes are available, or accept to bang the grandmothers at the PSE shops.
I had the pleasure of meeting him at the T-Ded 99 meet up I did years ago. I have always wondered what happened to him. He was a good guy to monger with. I'm sure he is still lurking around the forum in one way or another. During this time the forum was great. We always had meet ups and they were a blast and sometimes out of control.
I was in BKK for a conference 2 weeks ago and man did I have a blast!
Day 4.
I found fantasy 8 on the web and it looked interesting, the pictures of the girls clearly stated no silicone, which got me interested. This time I went in for a 3 Some. The girls were avg looking, but great attitude and amazing service with a smile. I didin't like the cleaning of the shaft when switching BJ between the girls, but they were fun.
S.This quote should speak volumes to the member expecting a 'great' threesome in a MP parlour. Cleaning shafts and switching between girls is par for the course.
My own opinion is hardcore threesomes can be arranged but are not easily arranged or found in Thailand in general.
NicFrenchy
04-23-25, 10:40
There was some guy here some years ago, named Szyygies or similar, who could find girls that were genuinely bi at the go-gos, but he'd been around soi cowboy / nana for a long time and was a magician as far as I know. For a real threesome, I think the rest of us need a lot of luck, and if you're that lucky you might as well buy some lottery tickets and spend the money you win on flying to a country where real threesomes are available, or accept to bang the grandmothers at the PSE shops..Syzigies aka Mick Licker aka MP Lurker was an MP expert, especially the soapies. Another real OG of ISG.
I remember meeting him a few times, At Giotto's place and we went to visit a few soapies together (he's the one who got me to try them). From Sideliners of Nataree to high end girls of LaBelle.
My returning of the favor was to introduce him to Miss Diamond-tooth of SOL.
There was no lottery in his approach, he was very meticulous in his selection and picky, even if price was high. I always respected his approach to mongering.
I had the pleasure of meeting him at the T-Ded 99 meet up I did years ago. I have always wondered what happened to him. He was a good guy to monger with. I'm sure he is still lurking around the forum in one way or another. During this time the forum was great. We always had meet ups and they were a blast and sometimes out of control.How about some links to your reports.
This quote should speak volumes to the member expecting a 'great' threesome in a MP parlour. Cleaning shafts and switching between girls is par for the course.
My own opinion is hardcore threesomes can be arranged but are not easily arranged or found in Thailand in general.I haven't been in Bangkok since pre-Covid so it's been a while, but when I was there my experience with threesomes was somewhere in the middle.
My first threesome in Bangkok was at a soapy which I think was called Amsterdam. It had a giant windmill neon sign above it. I don't think it exists anymore. The girls I chose there didn't interact with each other, but that isn't my thing anyway so it didn't bother me.
Second time was in the now defunct Eden Club, which was basically a threesome only shop. There I had the only threesome in which the girls interacted with each other, though it did seem a bit like an act.
Third time was a nuru massage at Doki Doki when it just opened. The girls didn't interact with each other (again, not my thing so it didn't bother me). The nuru mattress was too small though, and I kept sliding off it, so it was a bit clumsy. On the bed was better.
In all cases the girls changed condoms each swap, which complicated things, and cleaned as mentioned, however in all cases the girls were with me the entire time, and I had them ride and face-sit me simultaneously. I didn't experience any "hiding in the bathroom" LOL.
For the most part though in my experience threesomes are better off as fantasies than in reality. My only truly great threesome was in an AO FKK in Germany, but that is a story for a different forum.
I will be coming to Bangkok this upcoming Sunday though (at last!) and am considering trying a threesome in Tulip during the week.
I haven't been in Bangkok since pre-Covid so it's been a while, but when I was there my experience with threesomes was somewhere in the middle.
My first threesome in Bangkok was at a soapy which I think was called Amsterdam. It had a giant windmill neon sign above it. I don't think it exists anymore. The girls I chose there didn't interact with each other, but that isn't my thing anyway so it didn't bother me.
Second time was in the now defunct Eden Club, which was basically a threesome only shop. There I had the only threesome in which the girls interacted with each other, though it did seem a bit like an act.
Third time was a nuru massage at Doki Doki when it just opened. The girls didn't interact with each other (again, not my thing so it didn't bother me). The nuru mattress was too small though, and I kept sliding off it, so it was a bit clumsy. On the bed was better.
In all cases the girls changed condoms each swap, which complicated things, and cleaned as mentioned, however in all cases the girls were with me the entire time, and I had them ride and face-sit me simultaneously. I didn't experience any "hiding in the bathroom" LOL.
For the most part though in my experience threesomes are better off as fantasies than in reality. My only truly great threesome was in an AO FKK in Germany, but that is a story for a different forum.
I will be coming to Bangkok this upcoming Sunday though (at last!) and am considering trying a threesome in Tulip during the week.Enjoy the trip! Yes the demise of the Eden club has been a big loss to the BKK scene. I am not aware that there is anything like it in BKK these days. I presume you have read the recent reports on Tulip, not great reading.
My only true threesome was actually in Bali not so long ago, totally unexpected, the massage parlour had signs everywhere that no extra's, no touching etc, then 30 minutes into it, the girl basically asked if I wanted extras, then called her friend / colleague in and they turned into wild animals for an hour! So they can happen when least expecting it, so I never give up hope!
Friends,
I am planning for trip to Thailand from 18th May for 6 days. Please guide me whether it is right time to visit or I should delay. How to search for girls online? Websites like TF or reliable?
Thanks in advance.
Enjoy the trip! Yes the demise of the Eden club has been a big loss to the BKK scene. I am not aware that there is anything like it in BKK these days. I presume you have read the recent reports on Tulip, not great reading.
Thanks!
Yes, I have been reading up on the Tulip thread, however I also saw there that Ying is back, and I recall a fantastic time with her. I hope she hasn't left since.
Can anyone recommend where to find a great 3 some? Is it better to go to soi cowboy / nana and ask the ladies if they down? Or trying to pair up 2 freelancers at thermae? Anyone have good success?I recommend Beer Garden on Soi 7. Full of freelancers all day and you can ask them to find a friend for you. There's nothing they have not heard before!
Etaoin2003
04-25-25, 00:43
I recommend Beer Garden on Soi 7. Full of freelancers all day and you can ask them to find a friend for you. There's nothing they have not heard before!It was gutted a couple of years ago. If freelancers have returned to the scene of the crime this is the first I've heard of it.
Mosquito2002
04-25-25, 01:57
Quick question: Is Maison Hotel on Soi 4 Guest Friendly?
The grave of the beer garden?
It was gutted a couple of years ago. If freelancers have returned to the scene of the crime this is the first I've heard of it.There is still a beer bar going by the name of "Beer Garden" essentially at the same location on Soi 7 as the old Beer Garden. However, it is now just a small open air beer bar like the other open air beer bars in that Soi 7 collection of bars, no longer an indoor pub with a food menu.
There are usually bar girls, er ladies, sitting in that open air version of Beer Garden the same as in the other bars in that area. Presumably, some of them will go with a customer rather than only accept Lady Drinks from them and not go with a customer for sex.
But be warned that entire collection of bars is somewhat famous for employing many, many "Lady Drinks Only" ladies, coincidently mostly the ones anyone would want to have sex with for any amount of money. I have not heard the doable girls or ladies sitting in that new Beer Garden, if any, are an exception to that general rule.
As I recall when two girls approached him in a bar and pitched the idea of taking them both for a "threesome", which in my experience used to happen more often several years ago, he would right then and there ask them to kiss each other before inviting them to so much as sit down and chat about it. If they complied and did so with genuine DFK sloppy tongues passion, then he would consider the possibility and proceed. If not, no deal and don't even bother sitting down for a Lady Drink.
Sounds obvious when you hear it, but I did not think of that. Great and simple idea, though I expect to get nothing more than a frown and a laugh out of that here in Thailand.
I recommend Beer Garden on Soi 7. Full of freelancers all day and you can ask them to find a friend for you. There's nothing they have not heard before!And when exactly did your frequent this place last!
Quick question: Is Maison Hotel on Soi 4 Guest Friendly?Yes it is, probably obvious when you see all the FLs outside every night directly in front.
There are loads of websites giving you the 'guest friendly' reviews on hotels around Nana, just google.
Houston Player
04-25-25, 10:45
Enjoy the trip! Yes the demise of the Eden club has been a big loss to the BKK scene. I am not aware that there is anything like it in BKK these days. I presume you have read the recent reports on Tulip, not great reading.
My only true threesome was actually in Bali not so long ago, totally unexpected, the massage parlour had signs everywhere that no extra's, no touching etc, then 30 minutes into it, the girl basically asked if I wanted extras, then called her friend / colleague in and they turned into wild animals for an hour! So they can happen when least expecting it, so I never give up hope!Alive and well. Red Fern Soi 7/1 = Eden Club.
Quick question: Is Maison Hotel on Soi 4 Guest Friendly?Can you imagine any hotel in Soi 4 not being guestfriendly?
Alive and well. Red Fern Soi 7/1 = Eden Club.Thanks for the info Houston Player!
Yep, their website shows that this is still a threesome / foursome only shop.
It also shows the play on the Eden club name in the new name. Red fern.
I wonder why they rebranded it.
Llantarnam
04-25-25, 17:22
I recommend Beer Garden on Soi 7. I believe the sign is still there, but the old Beer Garden is long since gone.
Alive and well. Red Fern Soi 7/1 = Eden Club.The pricing on their site seems off. Double the price for an extra 30 m and 2 free refreshments?
EverythingThai
04-25-25, 20:24
300 girls here tonight. Stage shows.
Ranvir 226
04-26-25, 04:00
Friends,
I am planning for trip to Thailand from 18th May for 6 days. Please guide me whether it is right time to visit or I should delay. How to search for girls online? Websites like TF or reliable?
Thanks in advance.You should never delay visit to Thailand. It all 365 days full blast. If you delay, your next visit also gets delayed and so on. Visit on first opprtunity. Enjoy.
Newton York
04-26-25, 04:41
I made that terrible mistake myself. I delayed thinking that Thailand isn't going anywhere, that I'll be back soon enough. But weeks became months, and now months has become years. And my mind has turned to mush, and I'm going insane thinking about how I was this close to getting back to Thailand, and downing some sidegra and burying my dick in some hot Thai pussy. Instead I'm stuck in this fucking hell hole, wishing death upon myself. Regretting, ashamed at myself for missing the chance to go back to Thailand. Just jerking off to porn because I can't afford chicks here in this ridiculously expensive city. Just for one measly handjob from a shitty massage joint here in the shitty American north east, I coulda banged 3 hot babes in Bangkok. Christ on a stick!
DO NOT fucking delay. Don't be an idiot like me. Just fucking go. GO gawdamnit! Fucking go! By Lucifer's beard! Goooooooo!
6 days is not nearly enough time. With such a short window, don't bother with online chicks. Just have fun at the massage joints, the oilies and the soapies. Have some beer at Nana and Cowboy. Live your best life dude. Bangkok will change you forever.
RamDavidson84
04-26-25, 05:07
I made that terrible mistake myself. I delayed thinking that Thailand isn't going anywhere, that I'll be back soon enough. But weeks became months, and now months has become years. And my mind has turned to mush, and I'm going insane thinking about how I was this close to getting back to Thailand, and downing some sidegra and burying my dick in some hot Thai pussy. Instead I'm stuck in this fucking hell hole, wishing death upon myself. Regretting, ashamed at myself for missing the chance to go back to Thailand. Just jerking off to porn because I can't afford chicks here in this ridiculously expensive city. Just for one measly handjob from a shitty massage joint here in the shitty American north east, I coulda banged 3 hot babes in Bangkok. Christ on a stick!
DO NOT fucking delay. Don't be an idiot like me. Just fucking go. GO gawdamnit! Fucking go! By Lucifer's beard! Goooooooo!
6 days is not nearly enough time. With such a short window, don't bother with online chicks. Just have fun at the massage joints, the oilies and the soapies. Have some beer at Nana and Cowboy. Live your best life dude. Bangkok will change you forever.Amen brotha.
Captain Solo
04-26-25, 17:10
A huge facility for 300 girls with private room and guests.
I made that terrible mistake myself. I delayed thinking that Thailand isn't going anywhere, that I'll be back soon enough. But weeks became months, and now months has become years. And my mind has turned to mush, and I'm going insane thinking about how I was this close to getting back to Thailand, and downing some sidegra and burying my dick in some hot Thai pussy. Instead I'm stuck in this fucking hell hole, wishing death upon myself. Regretting, ashamed at myself for missing the chance to go back to Thailand. Just jerking off to porn because I can't afford chicks here in this ridiculously expensive city. Just for one measly handjob from a shitty massage joint here in the shitty American north east, I coulda banged 3 hot babes in Bangkok. Christ on a stick!
DO NOT fucking delay. Don't be an idiot like me. Just fucking go. GO gawdamnit! Fucking go! By Lucifer's beard! Goooooooo!
6 days is not nearly enough time. With such a short window, don't bother with online chicks. Just have fun at the massage joints, the oilies and the soapies. Have some beer at Nana and Cowboy. Live your best life dude. Bangkok will change you forever.I'll probably regret asking but. If you are so hell bent on Thailand being your paradise, what is the one main reason stopping you from upping sticks and start a new chapter in your life in Thailand then?
I hear you mainly complaining about the cost of living, cost of everything in the States, especially eggs, so one thing is for sure you couldn't be any worse off economically by emigrating?
Vicky Cooper
04-27-25, 15:59
So I am just back from a short 3 day holiday in BKK. Flight landed last Sunday early in the morning at Don Mueang airport at around 5 am. There was a long queue for passport control. Took almost 1. 5 hours to clear immigration and catch a taxi! Stayed on Sukhumvit road.
DAY 1.
In the evening I hit up the famous Tulip massage shop. Took a nice MILF type girl by the name of Joe-Joe. She told me she was around 38. Nice fair skinned and and a well toned body. Lovely face!
DAY 2.
In the afternoon I popped into Mango Massage and was shown the line up. None of the girls smiled at me except for one girl. A cute 20 something. So I chose her and it was a nice experience, very chatty and friendly. In the evening, I headed to P's Thai Massage for a foot massage and then was in a mood for a full body massage. To my surprise the lady did not drape me and was constantly teasing my privates when I flipped over. Got a nice HJ, showered and left. (they don't provide those disposable undies either) Its surprising P's Massage has signs every where in the shop that soliciting staff for extras will land you with a fine of 10 K Baht and contact with Thai police. Second time I got lucky at P's Massage. Last time I guess was last year in September. Not all masseuses working there take the initiative though.
DAY 3.
In the evening I went to Tulip's again and this time I chose 2 girls. Ying & Gop. Told them I want a lesbian Show. Read that Gop puts on a good les show here on the forum from past reports. Gop told me to watch closely and take lessons and proceded to finger the shit out of Ying's kitty while simulteanously licking her clit! She orgasmed hard! No idea if it was real or fake though! . Ying looks really nice once the clothes are off. She has a nice girl next door face and no tattoos. Must have been very pretty back in her heyday!
I asked Gop if in real life she prefers women over men and she told me that she only likes men and what goes on in the shop is just an act for the customer. She said she's 100% straight. They both knew I am from the sub continent because of my previous visits there yet they were asking me about my nationality. I tried dodging the question. I easily pass off as a Turk or Iranian but unfortunately my accent gives it away. The next morning another girl from Tulip who I visited in the past texts me asking me if I'm in BKK. She wasn't present this time when I was in the shop but she came to know of my visit. These women are all friends and gossip a lot!
The next day in the afternoon I packed up and headed for DMK airport. It was smooth. DMK has a nice cosy feel and old world charm compared to Suvarnabhumi. I prefer DMK now. Back home in India and its boring as hell!
Made contact via the Jaumo dating app, I later found out that she also has a profile on thaifriendly! She is 18, and will be 19 in July. I offered her 2k for S/T and she readily agreed.
I tend to ramble and get introspective. Fair warning.
Ok I've been in BKK 3-4 days. Here are my ups and downs as a first timer to Thailand.
After 31 hrs of travel I arrived at 5 AM, wrapped up some online work, then went for a massage at Relax House Massage https://maps.app.goo.gl/9NtqjvUdn3rR5xzM8 x 2 hrs. Excellent massage, wouldn't have been against a happy ending but that vibe wasn't there so that was fine. Mostly wanted to relax after so much travel.
That evening I was feeling lazy, so I order a massage to my room from Tata Massage https://www.outcallbangkok.com/. I was texted a line up. My first choice was unexpectedly ill, so I just told send me someone petite and friendly. They suggested Jaidee and I said OK. I chose 90 min "full body massage (happy ending)" for 2600 baht. But when the girl arrived I knew wanted full service. She was mid 20's, on the petite side, in shape, be cups, face kinda cute. So FS was another 2000. OK fine. Sex was interesting. This was the first provider that has ever let me finger her pussy and ass to my heart's content, and seemed into that + DATY pussy and ass LOL. This the first time I was able to get down and dirty deep in a woman's business since my divorce, so a little deja vu there. Everything was pretty routine. Main negative was she was a little obsessed with the status of the condom (which she demanded prior to intercourse. For a one off random arrival to my room, she loosened up pretty well and overall I was quite satisfied. Not a super high value (gave 5000 total) but compared to ATL, ridiculously cheap.
Late in the evening I wandered endlessly, in awe at the veritable plethora of available street walkers peppered throughout Sukhumvit. The earthy African girls were getting in my head running serious interference on my Asian doll mongering plans. I discovered that hot lady boys grabbing at me strokes my ego despite my horror. And no mood lifting medication is ever necessary; just walk up and down the Nana Plaza street 3 times and you feel like a total, unstoppable Chad LOL.
In Nana Plaza I did not find a single place that didn't have girls that were plenty cute and fit for me at least. Yes, Billboard is next level but honestly this not my type. They are f-ing gorgeous but I am more a GND kind of guy. Got to say I didn't realize how unnerving it would be to have hot naked woman eye fucking me from stage. I almost had no idea what to do. That first night I just bought a drink at like 3 places, gave a fat tip a dancer in each place that I thought were hot, then yes, I high tailed it.
Anyways it's all well and good to read the forum (I have extensively) but there really is no way to substitute for experience. For me shyness is a big hurdle, even with a working girl LOL.
On day 2 I hit up Kokoro Massage, no reservation or specific girl in mind. Viewing the iPad there were 2 options I chose Apple and her pics seemed reasonably accurate. Mid 20's, natural Cs with some nice weight and hang to them, plenty of feminine curve in the hips and ass, a small bit of fat in the tummy. It's funny how once the girl is rubbing your balls, washing your ass, giving BBBJ and sliding her tits all over you, moaning in your ear, all the little imperfections seem to fade. Foreplay was a little brief for my tastes but overall a decent session for 2600 + 1000 tip. Nothing too extraordinary to report good or bad. I left very satisfied with the experience.
Later I wandered in and around the Soi Cowboy area. This time I went in to Baccarat, had a drink, kept staring and smiling off and on at this girl on staging being very flirty with me, then had her sit with me afterwards. I ended up buying her 2 drinks. For that I was able to enjoy what to me is my perfect 10 body (tiny, short, A or be cups, perfect little ass) with a fairly cute face bumping and grinding on me for maybe 20-30 minutes, grabbing my package endlessly, as I casually touched her tits, ass and pussy (no panties). I call that an extremely high value. That would require a serious output of cash in US. Anyways I'm a little torn about how it ended. She wanted me to take her to a short time hotel. I just had a funny feeling about her. A little emotionally unstable perhaps. I tried to negotiate what I wanted (DFK, BBFS) but she wasn't feeling it, and things sort of fizzled. Maybe I should have just gone with the flow. Or maybe my intuition was right. I moved on but enjoyed the experience.
I entered Shark and within 10 minutes had a bill 1000 Baht for my drink and 2 doubles for 2 girls I wasn't really interested in. 🙄 Frustrating because they were like octopi and just wouldn't release so I could pursue other interests. There was a girl on stage that looked like a TV star but with a Latina ass! #44. But I got a little rattled and annoyed. Just paid my bill and left. I need the right skills to shut down the ones I'm not interested in, and blockade their "oh! Hey this is my sister! Let's have her join us too!" moves.
All in all I am very impressed with the talent at the agogos in both locations. Yes there are plenty of meh girls, but plenty of options for my tastes. Only one place did I just walk out of because it was pretty bad (Rio). No I have not bar fined a girl yet.
Later in night more wandering, more arm grabs, where you go? I would not have bet it would happen, but a Kenyan girl tapped me on the shoulder and 3 minutes later we're in a tuk tuk to my place. Wasn't in my plans but she was just too hot to say no to. Perfect long slender body with a tasteful amount of extra booty. Probably the hottest woman I have ever had sex with. It was 4 AM. She wanted 3000, agreed to 2000, and I tipped 500. Agreed to kissing but not as GFE as I would have like. Regardless I railed her for quite a while in various positions and I think I wore her out. Covered BJ (after BBBJ for maybe 1 min) + CFS. Overall an excellent value probably best so far. BTW her name is Gift. I have contact info. She too seemed a little crazy. Despite her English she would make random comments that made no sense. Got kinda weird afterwards. But saw her the next night and we had a nice hug and chat.
Day 3 I tried out Thonglor One Massage https://maps.app.goo.gl/BS3zjxaytYZJaunQ6. Chose 90 minute gel massage for 2400. A weird incident: an Asian gentleman was seated as I entered. After I paid suddenly I am rushed upstairs. As I head to the stairs I see that he is getting a line of girls. Whereas I was tucked in a room and assigned one. Kinda sucked. I determined to go with the flow though. Mai pen rai. Can't recall my girls name. She was kinda OK, but slim but a little pooch. Slightly cute. Then we washed up and she gave me a decidedly unerotic massage. Lots of deep tissue work, fine but not getting me aroused LOL. I was wondering if it was a bust. Foreplay again pretty brief but she was very responsive during intercourse. Felt very GFE at the point with lots of holding and moaning and body responsiveness. Tipped her 1000.
BTW haven't gotten any legit DFK yet. And every women so far has been sort of obsessed with semen (as in keeping an eye out for it) and condoms. And no kissing at all with massage girls.
That night I was feeling old, tired, hot, and spent. I wandered around, saw a girl on a corner that was a doppelganger for a painfully lost ex-girlfriend. Basically that cute Chinese fair skinned girl you see at the mall with baggy jeans, chunky sneakers, cute face, shoulder length hair. I walked by and said hey, how are you. She smiled but didn't engage. Ooof. I had some weird feelings going on. Walked them off, did more people watching, scoping girls, called it a night.
Today was my first overall disappointment. Based on some reviews (from elsewhere) and it being a 3 minute walk from my place, I went to 10 Nuru Massage https://maps.app.goo.gl/jwPy63hK319kHZYw9. Supposedly a little pricier for girls that have that K-girl look. Chose from 7 options by iPad. Paid 3500 for 90 min nuru. Well, she was not the physique nor face of the girl in the pics. Very thick. A major turn off for me. In her favor, she had excellent BBBJ and rimming skills. She might have done it the whole time had I asked. During covered FS blood appeared. She wanted to continue, claiming she was just "hurt" from no sex in a while. Ummm. We went to more BBBJ then I ducked out. Just going to let it go and move on. Yes, I tipped her well. It's just a personal policy of mine. Keeps me humble I hope. It's not all about me, so to speak.
That brings me up to date. Oh yeah I dropped into Thermae at 930 ish tonight. Wow, whoever said there is low quality talent here, I am just very very confused. Had a smattering of smiles (I am 54, white, a little stocky, 6'2", average face). I felt tremendously shy. Like I was on stage. I do terrible at bars and clubs. There were some amazing looking women there. I really wonder though. Many had a high maintenance vibe (or I could be misreading). But there seemed to be some genuine, sweet ones too. I will hopefully work to courage to grab a kind mid 30's girl from there eventually. The 25 year old model types feel way out of my league.
A few observations:
These ladyboys fuck with your head. I start thinking. Well. Maybe? God she's so hot, right? It could be fun, right? Then finally I hit this threshold. No bro, it's a dude. Wtf.
Nana is really just the new Wonder of the World, nearly bringing me to tears with the beauty and magnificence of it all. I don't think there is anything like it anywhere else. Not even close.
After obsessing over Thai Friendly for months before I left, it feels terribly boring to just order room service when I can get out and see the woman, give a little hug, rub a butt, smell their sweat, scope options, hear the cat calls, etc ya know? I am all about the grit and hunt. So far I am fondest of the slutty little street girls.
P. S. Forgive typos. I am not going to edit this whole thing.
DeepThoughts7
04-27-25, 21:31
So I am just back from a short 3 day holiday in BKK...
They both knew I am from the sub continent because of my previous visits there yet they were asking me about my nationality. I tried dodging the question. I easily pass off as a Turk or Iranian but unfortunately my accent gives it away. The next morning another girl from Tulip who I visited in the past texts me asking me if I'm in BKK. She wasn't present this time when I was in the shop but she came to know of my visit. These women are all friends and gossip a lot!
!Hi, thank you for your detailed report. I wanted to politely and diplomatically ask a question. Does your background (if you are non-Thai / non-Caucasian) affect how, or if you are given service at a particular establishment?
I remember in a previous post / reply, one gentleman from India, mentioned he had no issues at massage parlors and had a wonderful time at La Belle. I want to highlight that I am in no way trying to start any type of flaming thread. Thank you.
Made contact via the Jaumo dating app, I later found out that she also has a profile on thaifriendly! She is 18, and will be 19 in July. I offered her 2k for S/T and she readily agreed.Did you check her ID?
HorseTrader
04-28-25, 06:12
I tend to ramble and get introspective. Fair warning.
Ok I've been in BKK 3-4 days. Here are my ups and downs as a first timer to Thailand.
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P. S. Forgive typos. I am not going to edit this whole thing.Great report, thanks for writing!
Larbmoo555
04-28-25, 07:03
A weird incident: an Asian gentleman was seated as I entered. After I paid suddenly I am rushed upstairs. As I head to the stairs I see that he is getting a line of girls. Whereas I was tucked in a room and assigned one. Kinda sucked. I determined to go with the flow though. Mai pen rai.Did you ask for a lineup and were denied? Or were you too shy / non-assertive to ask? Massage places that make you choose through iPad are already a red flag for me, the photos are almost always severely photoshopped. I'll call for a lineup instead, and if they refuse, I'll walk out. Unfortunately the mama-sans & owners in the popular areas of Bangkok know that farang tend to be pushovers when it comes to girl quality (particularly age & looks) so some will attempt to pawn their uglies off on you or try things they wouldn't with Asian clientele. Got to be assertive or at least learn to fake it.
Did you ask for a lineup and were denied? Or were you too shy / non-assertive to ask? Massage places that make you choose through iPad are already a red flag for me, the photos are almost always severely photoshopped. I'll call for a lineup instead, and if they refuse, I'll walk out. Unfortunately the mama-sans & owners in the popular areas of Bangkok know that farang tend to be pushovers when it comes to girl quality (particularly age & looks) so some will attempt to pawn their uglies off on you or try things they wouldn't with Asian clientele. Got to be assertive or at least learn to fake it.Sounds like the staff mixed up Josh and the Asian guy, thinking he already had his lineup?!
I will be in Bangkok end of may for 24 hours only, staying on Sukhumvit 24. Wanted to know members recommendations for nearby places which are best bang for buck so to speak.
Did you ask for a lineup and were denied? Or were you too shy / non-assertive to ask? Massage places that make you choose through iPad are already a red flag for me, the photos are almost always severely photoshopped. I'll call for a lineup instead, and if they refuse, I'll walk out. Unfortunately the mama-sans & owners in the popular areas of Bangkok know that farang tend to be pushovers when it comes to girl quality (particularly age & looks) so some will attempt to pawn their uglies off on you or try things they wouldn't with Asian clientele. Got to be assertive or at least learn to fake it.Thanks, having gone through these two MP experiences (1 w / o a line up, 1 out of 2 with iPad a bust), I don't think I am likely to let them happen again. I like the idea of demanding the line-up instead of the iPad. No, not shy with a business owner haha, just hot women. I think in general I have been a bit on sensory overload here so a few times things have just caught me by surprise. Things that definitely in the US I would have handled differently. I have straight up demanded my money back after a provider took off her clothes and I got a whiff of her stench from 5 feet away LOL. Also from MPs where 2 girls in a row were giving a lackluster massage. Just need to get me legs under me here I guess. I will return to Thermae nightly until I settle in.
If anyone can explain how they handle clinging gogo bar girls that you're not interested in, I would appreciate that. I am not a seasoned strip club pro.
Thanks, having gone through these two MP experiences (1 w / o a line up, 1 out of 2 with iPad a bust), I don't think I am likely to let them happen again. I like the idea of demanding the line-up instead of the iPad.
If anyone can explain how they handle clinging gogo bar girls that you're not interested in, I would appreciate that. I am not a seasoned strip club pro.Yeah, ask for a line-up, and don't pay until after you've chosen a girl. A few shops refuse to give a line-up, but lets help keep those in the minority by walking out if they refuse.
Shops often also try to get newbies to pay before they've chosen a girl, which makes it more complicated to simply say "I come back another time" if you don't see anyone you like.
Go-go girls: just tell her clearly and politely "no, thank you". If she's still there after that, turn away from her, even move away a bit if she's sitting on a bench next to you, and ignore her completely. Look for other girls. Other girls will pick up with no problem that you are not interested in the girl sitting next to you and join you if you wink them down, by which point even the most obtuse of other girls will get the hint.
That said, if the girl is nice, just not attractive to you, there's no harm in offering her a drink just to be nice. I sometimes do that, and as long as you can handle things well (simply making it clear to her you're not interested in barfining her or anything like that, but you can talk and joke and even squeeze a boob or two for fun), there's no problem asking another girl you actually do want to bang to join you. They may even think you're a good-hearted sort of fellow for buying a drink for their more ugly sister, and like you more for it.
Also make sure you stay away from the arab's bar on soi cowboy: Deja Vu, Kiss, Midnite, Rio and Spice Girls. Known rip-off bars where you have to be very careful, and who will get violent with you too.
Did you check her ID?Yes I did check it.
Yes I did check it.Did you tell her you were going to post nude pictures of her all over the internet?
OK an update. Tonight (Monday) I noticed less action on the streets (as I had read) but certainly not dead. I was tempted by a few encounters but nothing that made me pull the trigger.
Walked into Geisha, was seated in front of the soapy girls (2 thumbs up for that situation for sure) and bought a drink. This time when randos or mamasans were approaching me to buy drinks etc, I said "Thanks, a little later. " That seemed to work. After about 15 minutes there was a stage rotation and a girl on stage with whom I had exchanged smiles a few times swooped in. Actually her and her friend.
I was not complaining. Both had very tight little bods and we're plenty cute. It was a little crazy how much they were grinding and grabbing me, making me touch their tits and pushing my hand into their panties. They were clearly a little drunk. I ended up getting them both 2 drinks. A while later the waitress too. It was a solid 30 minutes of this. Both gave me some light tongue action.
Other girls were trying to join the party LOL. I just laughed and said no just 2 for now! With a grin. They tried their darnedest, also grabbing at me, but finally gave up.
In the end I bar fined the first girl, named Ja. The whole thing certainly wasn't cheap but dang it was good. Beyond the bar experience, my time with her was excellent. She was very pliant. After a little weirdness (her wanting to shower alone in privacy. Okayyy) all was good. After the towels came off, immediate DFK. Very responsive. DATY was very fresh. Plenty of BBBJ then 69. Next she was on top of me, we're kissing, and I gently slide in bareback. She seemed into it. Not the slightest talk of condoms.
Finished on her belly although maybe she would have been OK with something else? It didn't come up and I just made a game time decision haha.
I really feel the alcohol is a key factor as I think I read ET mention once.
I definitely want to see her friend too (#302).
Price was 3000 to her, 1000 bar fine, 1200 for drinks, 500 tip for her friend, 500 tip to mamasan. I never felt overly pressured for the tip amounts, but made the choice myself. They were good people. I decided I was going to barfine this girl and decided to totally go with the flow about cost and tipping.
After the deed Ja and I connected our LINE accounts and I walked her to the elevator. 5 minutes later I realized I had forgotten to tip her. Messaged her. She was still downstairs. Came down and gave 1000.
Maybe if I were a BKK resident I would balk at what I paid. Compared to my current situation it's insane though. Having 2 hot strippers all over you (would have to be in VIP), drinks, lap dances x 30 min, taking one home OTC, BBBJ, BBFS. You are talking $1500-2000 in USA major cities these days no lie. So no regrets.
Once I have some Thermae success I will report on that as well.
UglyAzzMan
04-29-25, 01:35
Buying a drink for a girl you want no part 0 f?
Sounds like ET Strategy. Hahaha.
Did you tell her you were going to post nude pictures of her all over the internet?Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos.
Next question.
Maybe if I were a BKK resident I would balk at what I paid. Compared to my current situation it's insane though. Having 2 hot strippers all over you (would have to be in VIP), drinks, lap dances x 30 min, taking one home OTC, BBBJ, BBFS. You are talking $1500-2000 in USA major cities these days no lie. So no regrets.
Once I have some Thermae success I will report on that as well.Keep your USA sh*t in the US man, don't bring that in your bag to Asia.
You don't need to tip mamasan 500 baht, 50 or 100 baht should be enough (and only if your doing some repeats in the same place, with the same mamasan coming to you). Otherwise you're just throwing money away for nothing. Obviously the girl (and everybody else) sees what a big fat tip you gave to mama, so naturally she will expect one too, and next time everybody will come over you and request some tip. If you refuse later on, you'll be called a stinky man.
Steve 9696
04-29-25, 14:37
At joshallen. Been loving your reports. Seeing Bangkok thru the eyes of a newbie is so much fun. It drives me crazy how jaded some guys on this board are. Nana is indeed one of the Wonders of the World. And the camel toe parade at Billboard when they wear white bikinis on the carousel not to be missed. Great job just living the dream.
Got to say this is one of the best one liners in recent years. Literally LOL and yeah. 💯.
" just walk up and down the Nana Plaza street 3 times and you feel like a total, unstoppable Chad LOL. ".
PS Tip of the day. At Billboard sit at the revolving stage. U don’t have to make any eye contact unless u want to. U can just watch the parade of pussy and stripper heels go by. Sigh. It’s sooooo good.
Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos..The very first thing that entered my head when I saw your original post was 'that's bang out of order and totally inappropriate', it doesn't take much to show a little respect mate. What really surprises me is that the Mods allowed it and didn't take it down. But then again they are so inconsistent in their policies or asleep half the time.
Thanks, having gone through these two MP experiences (1 w / o a line up, 1 out of 2 with iPad a bust), I don't think I am likely to let them happen again. I like the idea of demanding the line-up instead of the iPad. No, not shy with a business owner haha, just hot women. I think in general I have been a bit on sensory overload here so a few times things have just caught me by surprise. Things that definitely in the US I would have handled differently. I have straight up demanded my money back after a provider took off her clothes and I got a whiff of her stench from 5 feet away LOL. Also from MPs where 2 girls in a row were giving a lackluster massage. Just need to get me legs under me here I guess. I will return to Thermae nightly until I settle in.
If anyone can explain how they handle clinging gogo bar girls that you're not interested in, I would appreciate that. I am not a seasoned strip club pro.I think the easiest way if you are shy or rather say respectful and don't like saying no. Is to look at your wallet the morning after and count all the wasted money. You'll soon cop on and learn to say no firmly but nicely. Just think about your hard earned Dollars or Baht blowing in the wind every time a girl you don't fancy approaches you.
To minimize board clutter, let me say a collective thanks for all the feedback and help.
I have continued going to Thermae. 1st time I circled around once, couldn't find a spot to sit or lean so as to get off the merry go round, and left.
Last night I found a spot at the central island to lean against. A girl came up and chatted with me. I wasn't really interested, so I wished her well. Walked out again.
Tonight I sat at a table with these rather gruff, old Asian dudes with a spare seat. I looked around for a while and saw a girl I had seen the night before. Both times she gave me a very warm smile. After twiddling my thumbs for about 5 minutes I got up, walked over, and we exchanged names. Then I just asked if she was ready to get out of there. Yes, she said. She then said oh wait. 3000 1 hour? OK sure, and we took a tuk tuk to my Airbnb.
Dao was definitely a cutie. 26, short, very thick long hair, be cups, petite frame but a little junk in her trunk. Very soft features and endearing eyes. She was dressed like a college girl. Sports bra and baggy white cargo pants. Her whole body had the slightest extra layer of fat all over, making her very squeezable, but certainly not fat or even plump.
The deed itself did not disappoint. More kissing and DFK would have made it better, but not a deal breaker. She wasn't up for no condom. But overall a good session. She was responsive in a non-fake sort of way. Who knows? Nothing major to report except she *too* was more than fine with DATY / A w / FIV / A haha. It's sort of a thing I can't resist if the pussy looks fresh.
Yes I tipped her.
Hoping I can build up to some of these girls that basically look like they could be in a K drama or some fashion magazine. I am still really scratching my head about people claiming low talent levels at Thermae. I guess I am just lucky that many of these women are my "ideal type". I am strongly considering an older woman at one point just to test those waters too.
On another note, I later hit up Rainbow 4 and 5. Could have been my vibe perhaps, but it was just OK. Plenty of hot girls but felt like very few showed signs of interest. These places were filled with 90% Asian clientele I'd say. Many girls didn't seem to want to be there. And not really a wild scene. A few lap dances here and there. Not a bawdy, raucous affair 😐. I was very interested in some of these girls though. The absolute hottest ones couldn't be bothered it seemed. That was their vibe. A few showed some chemistry though. I will try again.
Keep your USA sh*t in the US man, don't bring that in your bag to Asia.
You don't need to tip mamasan 500 baht, 50 or 100 baht should be enough (and only if your doing some repeats in the same place, with the same mamasan coming to you). Otherwise you're just throwing money away for nothing. Obviously the girl (and everybody else) sees what a big fat tip you gave to mama, so naturally she will expect one too, and next time everybody will come over you and request some tip. If you refuse later on, you'll be called a stinky man.Yup, it doesn't bring you respect or better service, it just makes you an easy mark. And yes, I'm and American but after a couple of decades here I'm well acquainted with local tipping culture, and yes there is a local tipping culture but they are small tips. I've never tipped a BG over the agreed price or tipped at any oily. Soapies, a different story where a few hundred baht is what the locals do. Want to tip the papasan or the mamasan? 20 Baht is fine. Local restaurants, 20 baht to the wait staff in parking attendant is much appreciated.
I'll never forget one of my first visits to Phnom Penh in 2000. On the first night I saw a dude that I had met in Bangkok 6 months before and he literally grabbed me and said, this is what you pay, not more, are you all ruin it for the rest of us. Well, for the most part in many venues in Bangkok it has been ruined for the rest of us. Oilies and online none withstanding. And when I talk about online I mean the local pond not the Foreigner pond.
Another poster here referred to long-term expats is jaded. Well, I'll tell you when ST was 500-1 k, BF was 500, beer was 80 Baht and LDs were 100 with an exchange rate of 45 to 1, and there were way more gals and way fewer punters then the pressure for good service was much higher. During my first few years here it was pretty much par for the course that while you were taking a shower she pulled your clothes and straighten your room, and if she took a shower before you your toothbrush would already be ready for you in the bathroom. It was a sales pitch. The majority of gals then didn't want sponsors, they wanted long-term partners. Now with the insane money some of these gals make the thought of a long-term relationship doesn't enter their mind until they're close to or past their sell-by date.
Yes, I'm sure for a newbie who has been trapped in the west, especially america, with very few prospects, Bangkok is wonderful now, but you can't expect those of us who experienced what it was like a quarter of a century ago to celebrate what we have now.
Yup, it doesn't bring you respect or better service, it just makes you an easy mark. And yes, I'm and American but after a couple of decades here I'm well acquainted with local tipping culture, and yes there is a local tipping culture but they are small tips. I've never tipped a BG over the agreed price or tipped at any oily. Soapies, a different story where a few hundred baht is what the locals do. Want to tip the papasan or the mamasan? 20 Baht is fine. Local restaurants, 20 baht to the wait staff in parking attendant is much appreciated.
I'll never forget one of my first visits to Phnom Penh in 2000. On the first night I saw a dude that I had met in Bangkok 6 months before and he literally grabbed me and said, this is what you pay, not more, are you all ruin it for the rest of us. Well, for the most part in many venues in Bangkok it has been ruined for the rest of us. Oilies and online none withstanding. And when I talk about online I mean the local pond not the Foreigner pond.
Another poster here referred to long-term expats is jaded. Well, I'll tell you when ST was 500-1 k, BF was 500, beer was 80 Baht and LDs were 100 with an exchange rate of 45 to 1, and there were way more gals and way fewer punters then the pressure for good service was much higher. During my first few years here it was pretty much par for the course that while you were taking a shower she pulled your clothes and straighten your room, and if she took a shower before you your toothbrush would already be ready for you in the bathroom. It was a sales pitch. The majority of gals then didn't want sponsors, they wanted long-term partners. Now with the insane money some of these gals make the thought of a long-term relationship doesn't enter their mind until they're close to or past their sell-by date.
Yes, I'm sure for a newbie who has been trapped in the west, especially america, with very few prospects, Bangkok is wonderful now, but you can't expect those of us who experienced what it was like a quarter of a century ago to celebrate what we have now.Thank god real wisdom is returning here. Thanks Goat.
Made contact via the Jaumo dating app, I later found out that she also has a profile on thaifriendly! She is 18, and will be 19 in July. I offered her 2k for S/T and she readily agreed.Credit is due to the poster for providing a pictorial report that is too lacking in the Thailand forums (in my opinion). Poster named where he found her, price, and where anybody interested might be able to arrange a session. Even though the poster went to the trouble to obscure possible identifying artifacts, all were able to get a good idea of what he scored.
Sam.
Thermae success
To minimize board clutter, let me say a collective thanks for all the feedback and help.
I have continued going to Thermae. 1st time I circled around once, couldn't find a spot to sit or lean so as to get off the merry go round, and left.
Last night I found a spot at the central island to lean against. A girl came up and chatted with me. I wasn't really interested, so I wished her well. Walked out again.
Tonight I sat at a table with these rather gruff, old Asian dudes with a spare seat. I looked around for a while and saw a girl I had seen the night before. Both times she gave me a very warm smile. After twiddling my thumbs for about 5 minutes I got up, walked over, and we exchanged names. Then I just asked if she was ready to get out of there. Yes, she said. She then said oh wait. 3000 1 hour? OK sure, and we took a tuk tuk to my Airbnb.
Dao was definitely a cutie. 26, short, very thick long hair, be cups, petite frame but a little junk in her trunk. Very soft features and endearing eyes. She was dressed like a college girl. Sports bra and baggy white cargo pants. Her whole body had the slightest extra layer of fat all over, making her very squeezable, but certainly not fat or even plump.
The deed itself did not disappoint. More kissing and DFK would have made it better, but not a deal breaker. She wasn't up for no condom. But overall a good session. She was responsive in a non-fake sort of way. Who knows? Nothing major to report except she *too* was more than fine with DATY / A w / FIV / A haha. It's sort of a thing I can't resist if the pussy looks fresh.
Yes I tipped her.
Hoping I can build up to some of these girls that basically look like they could be in a K drama or some fashion magazine. I am still really scratching my head about people claiming low talent levels at Thermae. I guess I am just lucky that many of these women are my "ideal type". I am strongly considering an older woman at one point just to test those waters too.
On another note, I later hit up Rainbow 4 and 5. Could have been my vibe perhaps, but it was just OK. Plenty of hot girls but felt like very few showed signs of interest. These places were filled with 90% Asian clientele I'd say. Many girls didn't seem to want to be there. And not really a wild scene. A few lap dances here and there. Not a bawdy, raucous affair 😐. I was very interested in some of these girls though. The absolute hottest ones couldn't be bothered it seemed. That was their vibe. A few showed some chemistry though. I will try again.I agree with you about the general quality of the Freelancers in Thermae. At least based on physical appearance only and, specifically, how they look fully clothed. If there is a better looking collection of 2,500 - 4,000 baht FLs to be found in one room somewhere else in Bangkok I have yet to find it and would like to hear about it. Is it possible that there were few or no notably attractive girls between 8:15 pm and 8:43 pm on June 14,2022 or some such thing, sure, that is possible. But on any night there are always plenty of girls in Thermae that 99% of heterosexual males on the planet would fuck with gusto and want to fuck with gusto in a nanosecond if given the chance.
But there are major hurdles to getting the right vibe and encouragement to go for it in Thermae. Paramount to someone like me being which if ANY of the good looking girls in this room will be agreeable to BBFSCIP with me in my room for a reasonable amount of money. Let's say less than 10,000 baht for a ST.
LOL. And, yeah, I have been refused for that kind of Real Sex for almost that much baht with girls from that place after "going with the flow" and foolishly not getting an upfront agreement for it at the bar or to otherwise thank them for their time and moving on to another girl or, better, another venue.
The ongoing hurdle in Thermae for that purpose or for anything other than to ask "How Much, For How Long and For How Many Pops", the answers to none of which are factors I give a damn about, is that Thermae is the absolute worst environment in which to conduct a simple 3 question and answer negotiation for anything other than those three price, time and number of pops questions.
But you seem to be happy and capable of fucking and finishing wearing a condom. I envy that. As long as that is the case Thailand in general and Thermae in particular truly is a "sexual paradise". Other than 2-3 fringe issues like Anal and 3-Somes, getting a notably good looking young girl to agree to BBFSCIP and / or BBBJCIM+Swallow are the only P4 P challenges in all of Thailand.
Unless you happen to be a truly grusome specimen with horrific heigiene problems or the girl is truly obsessed with only accepting customers from an ethnic group that you are not from, I don't think any girl in Thermae or anywhere else in Thailand would balk at going with you for a ST of basic covered FS at whatever the going rate is in that particular venue.
I can't imagine that being any challenge at all. It sure has never seemed that way to me. As an almost 72 year old farang, my impression has always been that virtually every girl in Thermae and in the top gogo bars would be perfectly fine with going with me for a session IF the only things I cared about were "How Much, For How Long and For How Many Pops. ".
Sadly, none of the answers to those questions matter one whit to me. Only the answers to 2-3 other questions matter to me. And a shoulder-to-shoulder Thermae line up is probably the worst place in Thailand to ask any one of those 2-3 questions and expect a positive response. For now.
Well at 430 AM walking around, the lizard brain starts thinking, hmmm maybe I do have one more shot in me?
I tried to show some street girls what I wanted on Google translate: shower together, 1 HR massage, body to body, BJ without condom.
One girl said no BJ without condom. Another, who literally 10 minutes earlier was trying to flag me down to sit for a drink, got strangely standoff-ish. She had excellent English. Suddenly she didn't like my vibe, thought I was a scammer, and quoted 300 USD.
Well, that's not working.
Across from Nana it was very sparse but one Vietnamese girl (Dee) caught my eye. I just said, Hi, 1 HR massage? And things clicked from there.
There are a few things puzzling me:
1 - This is I believe the third girl who agreed to kissing beforehand but in the room it was very minimal though. Somehow I have not found the right screening for this.
2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.
3 - These freelance girls say 1 HR which seems to mean after you are banging them for 15 minutes they start telling you to cum. This is kind of a turn off and I'm not sure if others have dealt with this somehow?
But regardless, even with these annoyances, having sex with a cute 25 year old Vietnamese girl was a good thing.
Well at 430 AM walking around, the lizard brain starts thinking, hmmm maybe I do have one more shot in me?
I tried to show some street girls what I wanted on Google translate: shower together, 1 HR massage, body to body, BJ without condom.
One girl said no BJ without condom. Another, who literally 10 minutes earlier was trying to flag me down to sit for a drink, got strangely standoff-ish. She had excellent English. Suddenly she didn't like my vibe, thought I was a scammer, and quoted 300 USD.
Well, that's not working.
Across from Nana it was very sparse but one Vietnamese girl (Dee) caught my eye. I just said, Hi, 1 HR massage? And things clicked from there.
There are a few things puzzling me:
1 - This is I believe the third girl who agreed to kissing beforehand but in the room it was very minimal though. Somehow I have not found the right screening for this.
2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.
3 - These freelance girls say 1 HR which seems to mean after you are banging them for 15 minutes they start telling you to cum. This is kind of a turn off and I'm not sure if others have dealt with this somehow?
But regardless, even with these annoyances, having sex with a cute 25 year old Vietnamese girl was a good thing.Maybe you need to tip more?
Yup, it doesn't bring you respect or better service, it just makes you an easy mark. And yes, I'm and American but after a couple of decades here I'm well acquainted with local tipping culture, and yes there is a local tipping culture but they are small tips. I've never tipped a BG over the agreed price or tipped at any oily. Soapies, a different story where a few hundred baht is what the locals do. Want to tip the papasan or the mamasan? 20 Baht is fine. Local restaurants, 20 baht to the wait staff in parking attendant is much appreciated.
I'll never forget one of my first visits to Phnom Penh in 2000. On the first night I saw a dude that I had met in Bangkok 6 months before and he literally grabbed me and said, this is what you pay, not more, are you all ruin it for the rest of us. Well, for the most part in many venues in Bangkok it has been ruined for the rest of us. Oilies and online none withstanding. And when I talk about online I mean the local pond not the Foreigner pond.
Good luck you met that guy, and even better you were intelligent enough to take the advice.
Look at some of the people here now? Even getting their panties in a wad instead of taking some good advice from the people who've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Me-me-me-me.
Maybe you need to tip more?Ok yeah that was a good one. 😅.
Not sure how this tipping thing got going. I thought I just briefly mentioned it. Anyways just as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, so too will some monger board members get riled up about prices paid, tips, etc. Quite certain that they are "right" and how they view things can be applied to others universally.
That's fine. To be honest I tip a lot in most circumstances, not just mongering. When I think about the talents and opportunities I have been blessed with, the things beyond my control that had to happen for my success, the serrendipities and strange coincidences, I just know it was all an unexplainable gift. The abundance leaves me humbled and spurs a desire to share. I know just like everything in life, it could be zapped away in an instant. Not really that complicated.
Anyways prices and tipping are super boring to me. The least concern I have.
Larbmoo555
04-30-25, 10:31
2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.
.The problem is a girl agreeing to BBBJ doesn't usually mean CIM. You start leaking jizz and she's going to assume you're about to explode in her mouth or even that you're orgasming right now. So best to specify CIM beforehand. Most girls (at least the young pretty ones) will refuse but there's still a good number who will do it.
Ok yeah that was a good one. 😅.
Not sure how this tipping thing got going. I thought I just briefly mentioned it. Anyways just as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, so too will some monger board members get riled up about prices paid, tips, etc. Quite certain that they are "right" and how they view things can be applied to others universally.
That's fine. To be honest I tip a lot in most circumstances, not just mongering. When I think about the talents and opportunities I have been blessed with, the things beyond my control that had to happen for my success, the serrendipities and strange coincidences, I just know it was all an unexplainable gift. The abundance leaves me humbled and spurs a desire to share. I know just like everything in life, it could be zapped away in an instant. Not really that complicated.
Anyways prices and tipping are super boring to me. The least concern I have.Good for you. At the same time it sounds like you while you are amazed at how cheap the pussy in Thailand is, compared to "home", you don't reflect on the reason the pussy is that cheap is because not everyone overflows the girls with tips, in addition to paying the already exaggerated tourist prices most of us are paying for the same, or in most cases, inferior, pussy.
Though I agree, it's rather boring, and people are of course free to spend their money however they want. Yet ...
Yes, I'm sure for a newbie who has been trapped in the west, especially america, with very few prospects, Bangkok is wonderful now, but you can't expect those of us who experienced what it was like a quarter of a century ago to celebrate what we have now.This accurately states why some of us here refer to the past as being much better. You had to be there to understand. But I would agree with Explorer's comment that things haven't changed that much in the past ten years.
Ok yeah that was a good one. 😅.
Not sure how this tipping thing got going. I thought I just briefly mentioned it. Anyways just as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, so too will some monger board members get riled up about prices paid, tips, etc. Quite certain that they are "right" and how they view things can be applied to others universally.
That's fine. To be honest I tip a lot in most circumstances, not just mongering. When I think about the talents and opportunities I have been blessed with, the things beyond my control that had to happen for my success, the serrendipities and strange coincidences, I just know it was all an unexplainable gift. The abundance leaves me humbled and spurs a desire to share..I am not a member of the price police and I totally get the idea of giving more just to pass it forward after we have been given much.
But as an ISG member hoping to learn something of a P4P nature from field reports here, my question is; did the generous tipping to mamasans, the servers, the staff, giving extra money beyond the amount agreed upon to the girl improve upon the P4P experience for you in a subsequent visit to the venue or the next session with a girl?
That is where I can learn something from your reporting of it. Otherwise, I don't care how much anyone pays for their fun. But can you share whether your or, by extension, would my doing it improve my chances of getting more and better sex next time.
Again, not to say there isn't value in doing for others without expecting anything in return. I certainly get that.
But in terms of what this website is all about, what can I learn from it?
For example, without going back and rereading or quoting specific passages, maybe just in general; you wanted BBFSCIP with a girl. She refused to comply or rebuffed your attempt. Let's say. But then you gave her a generous tip after the session.
Did you return for a second session with that girl? If so, did she then agree or even lead the way to having BBFSCIP with you, already knowing full well that is what you want and having been given a generous amount of extra baht the time before?
Same with handing out generous tips to mamasans and staff at a bar. If or when you returned to that bar was the mamasan proactively helpful in wanting to know what you want a girl of your choice in her bar to do for you and putting in some effort to arrange it for you? You know, like a generously tipped mamasan ought to be doing?
Those are the things I want to know here on this site when it comes to the subject of tipping. And especially generous tipping.
If reports are that tipping generously results in getting the DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP that I certainly want in a session with an attractive girl then I have learned from your FR to consider doing more of it.
However, if generous tipping does not move mamasans to put in some effort to assure the girl of your choice in that bar next time does everything you want without hassle and the girl you took before and tipped generously makes no effort to provide everything you want if or when you repeat with her, then I might conclude generous tipping even though you or let's say I won't get what I want the next time around is simply paying everyone extra baht NOT to provide what I want in the deal. They apparently concluded what they DIDN'T do for you was great and worth a bonus tip. Then they'll simply continue NOT doing it for you and expecting to be rewarded for NOT doing it. LOL.
What happens when you do tip generously and repeat a bar or a particular girl? Does anyone make a greater effort to make sure you get everything you want and the way you want it?
As a leaning experience for the rest of us, that is.
OK I've reflected on this a bit more. There is some nuance here.
Back home I am definitely a bit stingier. If service sucks I will reflect that in a lack of tip, or a minimal tip. I probably tip a little more than some but not crazy. But in certain cases I show my appreciation. I was in NYC a few months ago. Went to a KAMP randomly and unannounced. Provider was probably one of the best I've ever had as far as service, never mentioned a condom and just said go for it when I told her I was about to cum. (She was the one that opened my world to BBFSCIP as being perfectly natural and human. Not something to be terrified of.) Not a single discussion of price before all this. Nothing is worse then getting all worked up then having to hit the brakes to negotiate mid-session. CAMP ladies love to pull that shit a lot and it is super annoying. Anyways when I am able to just relax, go with the flow, get generous, friendly service, and not worry about negotiating, I reward those girls big time.
Switching gears, I do have to admit I seem to tip a lot more in less developed countries. I know Thailand isn't exactly third world, but I guess I just feel the strength of the dollar here. Mexico too. It just feels like such a small thing to do to give a gift. I am pretty doubtful that tippers are disturbing the economics of mongering in Thailand. There are a ton of factors involved, the elephant in the room being the monetary inflationary transnational regime we are all living under. Somehow I suspect creating trillions of dollars, yuan, yen, euros, won, etc out of thin air is probably more influential.
I am generally a one and done guy so I can't speak to the effects on follow up visits. It has never run through my mind to tip for some future benefit.
Anyways, maybe the under-the-spell-of-Bangkok phase is running its course. Today I went to 101 Premier Massage https://101premiermassage.com/ without any prior research, just wandering. I selected Yaya, a MILF with a tight little bod and good smile. But OMG it was bad. Caught her doing the 1 handed half-assed massage thing while on her cellphone. It was just a lackluster massage for about an hour then a bizarre combination of jack hammering, oral that only involved the tip, and intermittent giggles and fake orgasm sounds. I literally was having a hard time staying aroused, so I just said thanks and ended the session. No tip! Just thanks, bow, goodbye.
I am not a member of the price police and I totally get the idea of giving more just to pass it forward after we have been given much.
But as an ISG member hoping to learn something of a P4P nature from field reports here, my question is; did the generous tipping to mamasans, the servers, the staff, giving extra money beyond the amount agreed upon to the girl improve upon the P4P experience for you in a subsequent visit to the venue or the next session with a girl?
That is where I can learn something from your reporting of it. Otherwise, I don't care how much anyone pays for their fun. But can you share whether your or, by extension, would my doing it improve my chances of getting more and better sex next time..I definitely think strategic (for want of a better word) tipping does reap rewards. I'll admit even if I get great service off a girl in a shop or bar I rarely would seek the same girl out again, so I can't answer your specific question in detail. I enjoy the hunt of fresh pussy and a different experience even if it turns out underwhelming, it's always a punt!
But for example, tipping well to bar staff in Thermae, resulted in me being chaperoned on arrival to the top of the queue in subsequent nights. A tip to a mamasan resulted in her sitting down with me a few days later, advising me on which girl was best for this, best for that, asking me my preferences etc. I wasn't disappointed with the girl she chose for me, I wouldn't have picked her by just looking at her without the advice. And a final example, a good tip to night staff in my hotel was worth it's weight in gold, they couldn't do enough for me during my stay during the night when I'd be in and out with girls or having callers from TF etc.
I'm with Josh, if I get a good service off a girl, I'll give a good tip as a small gesture, it small change in Western society but can mean feeding their family in Thailand. I had part-timers from TF ask for no money, gave them 1,500 baht going home after a wonderful fuck session, the girl literally started crying with joy. Sure I would have paid double that for an average fuck for half the time out of thermae.
Sunday night after arriving in Bangkok from a long haul flight I went out along Sukhumvit from Nana end eastwards looking for a girl. I vaguely remember talking to someone and I have this barely a memory in my head of thinking 'why am I not taking her to my hotel? But this could be a false memory. Anyway next thing I remember coming too outside sat down somewhere about 4 am. I don't even remember where. It took me about 2 hours to get back to my hotel at 6 am though I don't think I walked that far. But I did sit drinking a cold drink from an all night shop for about an hour after I came to. Anyway what is strange and good is I had still had my phone, both my cards (nothing debited) but about 4000 baht missing from my wallet though about 200 were left in it. I can make little sense of the whole. I am just counting my blessings. Any thoughts?
HorseTrader
04-30-25, 22:10
But as an ISG member hoping to learn something of a P4P nature from field reports here, my question is; did the generous tipping to mamasans, the servers, the staff, giving extra money beyond the amount agreed upon to the girl improve upon the P4P experience for you in a subsequent visit to the venue or the next session with a girl?
Based on my personal experience, the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES! The reason I do it in Nana Plaza is to get better service tomorrow, the concept works. As I reported a couple days ago, I have one Nana Plaza mamasan who knows me well and knows exactly what I like. She brings recommended girls to me for my review and those girls are already prescreened for BBFSCIP. A year ago I had two Nana Plaza mamasans who treated me like this, now I only have one. I'm 100% sure that I get special treatment because of my history of tips, not because of my movie star good looks, sexy voice, 6-pack abs, conversation skills, nor my perfect fashion sense. It's not just great treatment in the bar, it is better treatment from the girl in the room.
If I walk into the bar next door, I am nobody. I start from scratch.
I expect nothing in return when I tip nice taxi drivers and restaurant staff. But those people help me enjoy life and I'm happy to make their lives a little better.
Well at 430 AM walking around, the lizard brain starts thinking, hmmm maybe I do have one more shot in me?
I tried to show some street girls what I wanted on Google translate: shower together, 1 HR massage, body to body, BJ without condom.
One girl said no BJ without condom. Another, who literally 10 minutes earlier was trying to flag me down to sit for a drink, got strangely standoff-ish. She had excellent English. Suddenly she didn't like my vibe, thought I was a scammer, and quoted 300 USD.
Well, that's not working.
Across from Nana it was very sparse but one Vietnamese girl (Dee) caught my eye. I just said, Hi, 1 HR massage? And things clicked from there.
There are a few things puzzling me:
1 - This is I believe the third girl who agreed to kissing beforehand but in the room it was very minimal though. Somehow I have not found the right screening for this.
2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.
3 - These freelance girls say 1 HR which seems to mean after you are banging them for 15 minutes they start telling you to cum. This is kind of a turn off and I'm not sure if others have dealt with this somehow?
But regardless, even with these annoyances, having sex with a cute 25 year old Vietnamese girl was a good thing.The answer to several of your questions is because most of the punters except that type of behavior. 25 years ago I was about 75% freelance 25% bar. The gals I took from Thermae, Nana Disco, and the street for the most part all performed pretty well. Rarely had a problem with kissing and never had a problem with tissue wiping when precum appeared or a rush to put on a condom. And on the rare occasion when that nonsense started, I would simply get up and start to put on my clothes. Gal would ask me what was wrong, and I would tell her straight up in Thai that I expected her to do me like I was a boyfriend or she was in a "sex movie. " I would also stress to her that I did not want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with and that if she was uncomfortable with what I wanted to do we would stop right now and I would pay her less than the agreed upon price. Never had any type of anger or blow out in these situations because I was stressing that I did not want her to do anything she did not want to do, but in turn when she was doing was not up to my standards.
And stated above, this was a very rare occurrence my first seven or so years here. But towards the late 00's it became more common and at that point I switched to 100% PSE oilies and was very fortunate to be able to hit the golden days of Tulip, Mango, SW, and Cherry. Miguel's working in those places back then were far better looking than the gals working there now and all pure filth. Sometimes you would look down and you couldn't believe what you were doing with a girl that good looking. Towards the mid 10's a plethora of oily places began to open and competition for good looking talent among the mama sons became very intense, so intense that many shops dropped performance standards significantly in order to attract better looking girls to their shop. And guess what? It worked. Talent levels at the PSE places began to drop. And have continued to drop to this day. The combination of looks and incredible performance which was so readily available is now really a unicorn.
Good luck you met that guy, and even better you were intelligent enough to take the advice.
Look at some of the people here now? Even getting their panties in a wad instead of taking some good advice from the people who've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Me-me-me-me.There has been a lot of mental illness demonstrated here since Covid.
Based on my personal experience, the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES! The reason I do it in Nana Plaza is to get better service tomorrow, the concept works. As I reported a couple days ago, I have one Nana Plaza mamasan who knows me well and knows exactly what I like. She brings recommended girls to me for my review and those girls are already prescreened for BBFSCIP. A year ago I had two Nana Plaza mamasans who treated me like this, now I only have one. I'm 100% sure that I get special treatment because of my history of tips, not because of my movie star good looks, sexy voice, 6-pack abs, conversation skills, nor my perfect fashion sense. It's not just great treatment in the bar, it is better treatment from the girl in the room.
If I walk into the bar next door, I am nobody. I start from scratch.
I expect nothing in return when I tip nice taxi drivers and restaurant staff. But those people help me enjoy life and I'm happy to make their lives a little better.I tip in Thermae, Billboard and Rainbow and the downstairs Beer garden. I don't tip girls as a matter of course.
I definitely think strategic (for want of a better word) tipping does reap rewards. I'll admit even if I get great service off a girl in a shop or bar I rarely would seek the same girl out again, so I can't answer your specific question in detail. I enjoy the hunt of fresh pussy and a different experience even if it turns out underwhelming, it's always a punt!
But for example, tipping well to bar staff in Thermae, resulted in me being chaperoned on arrival to the top of the queue in subsequent nights. A tip to a mamasan resulted in her sitting down with me a few days later, advising me on which girl was best for this, best for that, asking me my preferences etc. I wasn't disappointed with the girl she chose for me, I wouldn't have picked her by just looking at her without the advice. And a final example, a good tip to night staff in my hotel was worth it's weight in gold, they couldn't do enough for me during my stay during the night when I'd be in and out with girls or having callers from TF etc.
I'm with Josh, if I get a good service off a girl, I'll give a good tip as a small gesture, it small change in Western society but can mean feeding their family in Thailand. I had part-timers from TF ask for no money, gave them 1,500 baht going home after a wonderful fuck session, the girl literally started crying with joy. Sure I would have paid double that for an average fuck for half the time out of thermae.Strategic Tipping is not only a great term for it but employing it is also great for you, great for the market, great for improving Value For Money in the market, great for the girls who honestly want to make us happy and earn more money for it, great for our fellow punters, great for the next customer who chooses a girl who does get generously rewarded for providing what her customers want and if I happen to be her next customer it is great for me! LOL.
I see that is also the point of HorseTrader's post about rewarding mamasans for vetting the girls in their lineup at gogo bars for the BBFSCIP he wants and therefore he is happy to pay for it and tip well all around.
I do the same with mamasans in gogo bars. Try it, guys. In every bar with a mamasan you go to. Helping the customers connect with the girls in their lineup who would be willing and eager to deliver what that customer wants is or sure as hell should be the job of the mamasan, the reason they work there as mamasans instead of simply being a much older and fatter LadyDrink hustler in street clothes.
If they balk at doing their job in that way or hand you some blithering nonsense for not earning their pay with "I don't know. Up to the girl", ignore them, never tip them and, better yet, just walk out and go to another bar where a mamasan earns her pay. Duh. Of course it is "up to the girl", mama. We all know that. The concept is the mamasan is supposed to know which of her girls are known to provide one thing or another and which ones are known to do very little. And the mamasans will know these things about their girls.
And the added value of going about it this way through a mamasan who might have only been tipped 100-200 baht for the effort is the testimonial from a mamasan to her girls that "this is a good customer, he is not a scammer, he will pay you what he agrees to pay you and give you a tip if you make him happy so make him happy" carries much, much, much more weight coming from their mamasan than anything you as a foreign customer merely hoping you will be treated well in the room could ever carry with a hundred assurances over a couple of Lady Drinks.
A fellow punter posts a FR about a provider at a well known Happy Ending Massage Shop happily delivering the worst service he has ever experienced as though most of her previous customers had been handing her an extra 500-1000 baht tip for that kind of treatment. Which they probably had been doing just out of habit without really giving much thought to how that habitual behavior lowers the quality and value of a P4 P destination over time.
Walked into Thermae last night and chatted with two women that had weird energy. Then met Bee. I confessed I was shy and she said "me too!" I then asked if she wanted to go be shy together and that was that. Very feminine and it was nice how she gently held my arm the whole walk back to my place. She was a little older (38) but looked early 30's to me.
It was a decent encounter. Probably BBBJ was the best part. Required condom for sex. I've decided to stop trying to negotiate this stuff on this trip and just go with the flow. Probably should get some of those Japanese condoms though (forget their name). It was good but I wasn't really moved to ask for contact info. Paid 3000.
Then today I checked Thai Friendly.
A profile just read "Massage". I pinged her and she was at my place in 1 HR. Quoted 2 HR "massage + BJ + sex" for 3000 baht. It was the best sex so far. She has a nerdy face, not the prettiest girl but full lips, super long hair and great attitude. She works locally in a legit MP. Very working class vibe and not high maintenance attitude. Slightly thick and nice round ass. Nice shape and curves, not overweight.
Started with basic oil massage and a good amount of teasing. Then flipped, more massage then pretty darn good BBBJ, 90% there with DT. Very sloppy and wet and didn't rush things. She would gag now and then and go back for more like a trooper. Asked if I could massage her and she was good with it. She had a very fertile scent.
Anyways long story short earlier on she asked, you have condom? But after the massage and a little foreplay I said should I get the condom?. . . Yes. I said I don't really need it though. . . She says. . . OK. Bingo! Good session. She seemed to let go and was moving for her, not me. *THATS* what I am looking for. We definitely clicked. Plenty of DFK. Asked if I could CIP but she asked me to pull out. OK, no prob. Still, best so far.
And on the rare occasion when that nonsense started, I would simply get up and start to put on my clothes. Gal would ask me what was wrong, and I would tell her straight up in Thai that I expected her to do me like I was a boyfriend or she was in a "sex movie. " I would also stress to her that I did not want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with and that if she was uncomfortable with what I wanted to do we would stop right now and I would pay her less than the agreed upon price.Thanks for this, and this does tend to be my energy if there are shenanigans back home. I will play hardball. I guess here there is a sense of limited time and opportunity so settling a bit. I might give this a try once to see how it goes. It does really piss me off that they agree then back out, but as a stranger in a strange land, I guess I am feeling a little less assertive.
Thanks for this, and this does tend to be my energy if there are shenanigans back home. I will play hardball. I guess here there is a sense of limited time and opportunity so settling a bit. I might give this a try once to see how it goes. It does really piss me off that they agree then back out, but as a stranger in a strange land, I guess I am feeling a little less assertive.Just keep your cool, smile, and emphasize that you don't want her to do anything that she doesn't want to do, but it's not what was agreed upon and you are not satisfied. But those clothes on leave a few hundred baht and head out.
Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos.
Next question.
The very first thing that entered my head when I saw your original post was 'that's bang out of order and totally inappropriate', it doesn't take much to show a little respect mate. What really surprises me is that the Mods allowed it and didn't take it down. But then again they are so inconsistent in their policies or asleep half the time.You mention my original post; are you referring to the one I made on 28 April in which I posted some pics? You think the mods should have taken it down?
I was then asked two follow-up questions and I replied to them (you quoted my second reply). You think the mods should have taken my replies down?
You suggest that I am not showing respect. Respect to whom? And in what way am I not showing respect?
You mention my original post; are you referring to the one I made on 28 April in which I posted some pics? You think the mods should have taken it down?
I was then asked two follow-up questions and I replied to them (you quoted my second reply). You think the mods should have taken my replies down?
You suggest that I am not showing respect. Respect to whom? And in what way am I not showing respect?Sure as hell not a lot of respect for the teenager you banged.
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