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Hi guys,
Any chance of me getting an action in a 7hr transit in Bangkok?
Cheers,
Sharath
It depends on the time you arrive in BKK. 7 hours is not a lot, but it is enough to get AT LEAST one good session in.
A quick calculation would be 1 hour from the airport to Sukhumvit (or Ratchadapisek soapies area), 1 hour from the area back to the airport, 2 hours to check back in (immigration, customs, etc). That leaves you 3 hours to play.
With good planning, and depening on the time, you can get 2 good sessions in, and even have enough time to get a bite to eat.
GoodEnough
06-01-09, 12:13
The relevant point is that the new, eager beaver, super keen Farang dean, (more Thai than Tom Yum Kung),
OTH, if it's any consolation at all, we have exactly the same sort of culturally obsequious foreigners here in the Philippines; guys who immediately "go native," on arrival and obsess on the "simple delights of paradise." The fact that they know nothing of the culture, are oblivious to the duplicity and impervious to the disdain with which they are viewed by the locals is immaterial to these "plus royalist que le roi," types. It's comforting to know that I'm not alone and that this holier than thou attitude also persists in Thailand.
I'm sorry that I never met you at Giotto's last week. You could doubtless have contributed to my continuing education.
GE
Hi guys,
Any chance of me getting an action in a 7hr transit in Bangkok?
Cheers,
SharathTell the taxi desk you want to go to the Emerald Hotel on Rachada Rd. This will cost your about 400B($14usd). This hotel is located across the street from 6 different soapie massages, my favorite being Natatree.(where I had my first threesome). The girls are lighter skin and in my opinion better looking than the go-go bar girls. The soapies I am referring to are open from 3pm-midnight. If you happen to land during a different time I would recommend the following. 2000B average or 2600B+ hotties
Before 3pm and after 10am- massage on Sukumvit Soi 22 (Teen massage, Angel massage, etc) 400B for 1hr and 1500B or lower for FS cute girls
After mid-night before 2am. Go to Nana Hotel (Nana Plaza is located across the street) Short time run can be had for 300 baht. You can do several if you like because if you arrive around this time there is no traffic. 600B bar fine and 1000B-1500B short time
These are your quickest option for some thai meat
Current exchange rate is 34B per 1usd. Good luck and have fun.
The guy also doesn't have PM turned on, so it's hard to help him.
maybe the guy does not even have Google turned on!:)
NicFrenchy
06-02-09, 01:41
I don't know a single foreigner in this country of any weight at all who ever wais anyone. They (we) leave that to the wankers and tourists
Yup, absolutely
Cunning Stunt
06-02-09, 02:53
I've been here twenty and don't speak a word. My wife and her family always said I'd be nuts to waste my time with it.
They probably didn't want you to know what they were saying about you behind your back;).
This is the problem about learning the lingo and is particularly relevant to Thailand. Speak the language well and you understand all the insults and bad jokes that are aimed at falangs, by strangers, on the streets. Not good for your BP and peace of mind!
This is for the guy with the questions about lady boys in Thailand.
The problem with ladyboys is that there is a history of them putting a drug on their nipples and when you suck the nipple you then passed out and they rob you. They also have been robbing guys in various ways like drug their drink etc.
So be very careful.
Some hotels let you bring them in and if you do its good if they show id.
There has been problems with them still acting agressive and even many pickpockets that are lady boys.
Another problem is that if you are drinking you may not know that its a ladyboy?
I am returning to Bangkok and want to know where the best bars are for real girl on girl action.
I am bringing my filipina with me and she wants to get up and lick real pussy. Its only been a year since I have been there but I hear things change a bit and I may have missed something since I usually travelled alone there.
Is gullivers better or worse?
I've been here twenty and don't speak a word. My wife and her family always said I'd be nuts to waste my time with it. I've never for a moment regretted taking their advice.They don't want you to know about all their ratty little schemes so you can try to do something about them before it's tool late. (Not pointing fingers at your wife, but all Thais in general) SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) here.
They talk behind your back right in front you. They make shit up right in front of you. They fuck with you right in front of you. They all do this, THAIS ALL DO THIS. Your only protection is to learn the language and make them know that you know WTF is up. It's not to impress anybody man, and it's not to get a better BBBJ at the MPs downtown, it's to protect yourself.
Ever had to deal with the police, for anything, anything at all? Ever had to deal with immigration for your visa shit? Ever had to deal with buying or selling real estate? Fucking hell, I can't even think about all the thousands of bullshit little things that have to be dealt with. If you don't speak Thai, how the hell do you know WTF is going on? Do you use your wife as a translator 24 hours a day?
One thing is absolutely sure, for me personally, if I didn't speak Thai, and know how to spin the Thais in the direction where I want them to go, (smiling, talking story, buying coffee & doughnuts, acting completely at ease in a super tense situation) I would be in a freaking Betong jail cell today instead of hanging out on Kata Beach on an incredibly beautiful breezy day with a bunch of ice cold sliced pineapple, my laptop, and a fresh coconut with a straw sticking out. (Long story, but if you don't have lots and lots of long stories from living in this hotbed of hardcore wackiness then you aren't really living here at all are you? )
Whoa. I seriously can't understand how you guys can live here and not speak the language. Must be retired from real life is all I can figure. If you aren't speaking and interacting with the Thais here, and knowing totally and completely what is going on around you, then you are letting others make your decisions for you, without you knowing. If that works for you here, so be it.
The problem with ladyboys is that there is a history of them putting a drug on their nipples and when you suck the nipple you then passed out and they rob you.Fucking hell mate,
The problem with ladyboy's as far as I'm concerned is that they are BLOKES.
Traveller China
06-02-09, 15:47
The moment I hit 'Add Report,' it occurred to me that someone would say that.
Actually, all the upper class Thais I have ever known live their lives primarily in English. My wife's family speaks English among themselves, not just to me, a legacy of their English university educations. Now if they would just lose the obnoxious Brit accents.I say, that is rather over the top, old sport!
Brenda Wong
06-02-09, 19:27
Fucking hell mate,
The problem with ladyboy's as far as I'm concerned is that they are BLOKES.
:)
Classic!
They talk behind your back right in front you. They make shit up right in front of you. They fuck with you right in front of you. They all do this, THAIS ALL DO THIS.This seems to bother you. Now if you didn't know the language, it wouldn't have been such a distress, eh? BTW, did you know that stress kills. Why would a guy want to murder himself! LOL
Your only protection is to learn the language and make them know that you know WTF is up. It's not to impress anybody man, and it's not to get a better BBBJ at the MPs downtown, it's to protect yourself.Yet earlier you implied that it's the main reason for you having great sessions with the TGs 100 percent of the time. Ref post 6264 in this thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=887640&postcount=6264
Ever had to deal with the police, for anything, anything at all? Ever had to deal with immigration for your visa shit? Ever had to deal with buying or selling real estate?Never and I intend to keep it that way.
Fucking hell, I can't even think about all the thousands of bullshit little things that have to be dealt with. If you don't speak Thai, how the hell do you know WTF is going on?
Speak English? Ask for a translator? Or the Tourist Police? Read OTH's posts! Why would I want to know what is going on outside my own little world of BJ's, TG pussies, and the Rolling Stones?
One thing is absolutely sure, for me personally, if I didn't speak Thai, and know how to spin the Thais in the direction where I want them to go, (smiling, talking story, buying coffee & doughnuts, acting completely at ease in a super tense situation) I would be in a freaking Betong jail cell today Why, what laws are you breaking! LOL
I suggest this may speak more to your lifestyle than Thai speak. Consequently for you it may have been a life saver to know it, but to some residents it's just a WOT and a pain in the arse.
(Long story, but if you don't have lots and lots of long stories from living in this hotbed of hardcore wackiness then you aren't really living here at all are you? )Everything is relative. No doubt there are some who would feel that your lifestyle is extremely dangerous, while others would find it so lame.
Whoa. I seriously can't understand how you guys can live here and not speak the language. Must be retired from real life is all I can figure. If you aren't speaking and interacting with the Thais here, and knowing totally and completely what is going on around you, then you are letting others make your decisions for you, without you knowing. If that works for you here, so be it.What decisions would those be? My state in BKK I would describe not as retired from real life, but rather retired and having the time of my life. But to Barko, self confessed black sheep of his family, my lifestyle would no doubt be boring. When you add a few more notches and years to your belt, young fella, you will likely mellow out a bit. Capiche?
P. S. Three and a half hours to game three of the Stanley Cup finals between the Wings and Pens. My dough is on the champs to repeat.
This is the problem about learning the lingo and is particularly relevant to Thailand. Speak the language well and you understand all the insults and bad jokes that are aimed at falangs, by strangers, on the streets. Not good for your BP and peace of mind!
I may be wrong but I would expect that if we lived in a Matrix like world where we could shove software into our head and instantly know Thai most of us would do. What are the drawbacks? Insulting Hi-so's by using Thai? Knowing people are badmouthing us left and right? Who cares and honestly I would love to know what the girls are saying about me bad or good - "he have big heart but small dick". But for many of us Thai is a nightmare to learn and everyone has to make their own decison about time/effort vs reward. If you are not here for business and are just enjoying the fruits of your previous labor there probably isn't a big payback. I am trying because I am finding it fun so far - and I hope it continues to be. I am just covering the days of the week, colors and body parts so it will be a while till I get to insults and curse words. Thus it may be years before I realize the girl I just asked to go with me is smiling broadly and saying to her friend "When did elephants learn to talk. I wish I had herpes to spread on his ugly white dick".
I went into this classy bar one night/early morning (1am) because I was invited by a few expat buddies. Upon getting there, I started up a conversation with a girl, who was sitting near by. The conversation goes well and I even order her a drink.
During the course of the conversation I found out that she is an acct with some Thai company, graduated from one of the better university with a degree, and the usually details.
A few minutes later she disappears and walks out of the disco section with a Japanese guy, without saying a word to me leaves with the guy.
My buddies and I concluded that she got her asking price from the Japanese guy. LOL.
Should I have asked if she was a butt-***** and gotten it over with and skip the chit chat?
Oh well, life goes on.
Ps. Most good Thai girls go to sleep at 11pm unless they busy sucking cock or getting stuff. I don't know why I had to add that.
GoodEnough
06-03-09, 11:27
I'm getting quite a kick out of this discussion for two reasons: first, because it reaffirms my certainty that the tendency to make fun of the farangs is by no means unique to Thailand and second, because I it makes me wonder why anyone even cares?
As to the universality--within SE Asian at least--of denigrating foreigners, it happens all the time in the Philippines, where women will explain to each other, right in front of the guys whom they're banging, that they're only in it for the money; it happens in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in Malaysia and in Hong Kong, all countries in which I've lived, worked or vacationed. Now that I live in the Philippines, I'm more conscious of it since my lady will often translate for me the conversations going on around me that I cannot understand. (Who knows, maybe she's telling her friends the same thing about me.)
As to the second point, does it really make a difference? It seems to me that there's an effective symbiosis to these relationships: the girls are living better than they ever could with the local losers, and we're all getting laid more, with much more attractive women, than would have been possible at home. The bottom line I guess, is that if you want a relationship based on "mutual respect" then stay in the West, or at least leave those expectations at home once you decide to venture Eastward.
GE
Fucking hell mate,
The problem with ladyboy's as far as I'm concerned is that they are BLOKES.
I had a funny conversation with my language teacher recently, regarding an outing with a group of Thais, where there was one lesbian couple.
According to her, on an outing like that, sharing rooms, a guy can't sleep in the girls' room. A girl can't sleep in the guys' room. But a lesbian girl can sleep in the girls' room with her lover. A ladyboy can't sleep in the girls' room, he has to sleep in the guys' room.
However if he's had the operation (no more dick), he can sleep in the girls' room (not that he'd want to ;-) ).
Mosquito2002
06-03-09, 14:09
Have a 8 month old, Thai / Farang daughter that is 8 months old.
Honestly, all I'm concerned about is her education and long term prospects.
I'm fairly well so, don't care how much it cost for her education.....what are my options???
Then, after her education what would I require to ensure her future employment.
Understand the primilary education is cheap (by Western Standards), I'm just looking for the $$$$$ that'll be required to ensure she gets a good paying job aftrer her education!!! Right not I'm planning on a 1-2 million baht pay-off!!
Pay-off depending on if she's really capable of handling the job!!!
Any recommendations on planning a new borns future??
Especially, if the new born if half Thai/half fanrang with no plans of moving/relocating to the U.S..
I'd even take recommendation of sending her to the states for her education, as she's an only child and money is not object (with in reason (standard U.S. college cost).
Mosquito2002
When you add a few more notches and years to your belt, young fella, you will likely mellow out a bit. Capiche?Sixty-four going on 34. And, having the absolute time of my life! You?
This is a long one, but I have to get it out. Anyone that reads it all, thanks:
Pink, I don't need any more notches. Please read my reply to OTH about the life possible in Thailand. I don't think I need to say it again, there are those that live it, and those who think they are, but are missing it, and those that are missing it completely. If you are living here on fixed income, there are other choices and opportunities available to you. If you are living in Thailand wondering what you are going to do next with your life, there are no excuses for you. Opportunities are endless here.
Betong synopsis:
Betong: Had overstayed visa due to a glitch on the part of a Thai holiday with a Monday closing, and the immigration office in Phuket deciding on a whim to close the previous Thursday afternoon and Friday as well. I had to be in Trang to look at some commercial property that weekend, then had a meeting with Chinese client in Penang, Malaysia (corporate mover = needed hand holding) Drove the 4X4 down Trang, then to Betong by way of Yala, intending to to cross border there and head down to the ferry at Butterworth. (Chinese client's family was from Betong, picked up his older brother and about four kilos of maps & Thai legal paperwork.)
Betong border found me sitting on top an immigration officer's desk, doing my best attempt at Scheherazade, trying to explain some of the old stuff (ancient in fact) that had magically appeared on their computer down there. Never had any problem before, ever, and have entered and exited the country literally hundreds of times, every single border crossing in Thailand, not one have I missed at one time or another. (Had a buddy from legal pay off the powers that be to make this computer stuff all go away, stupidity generated by misguided a Thai immigrationette in Chiang Mai, looking for something from me that I could never give, not my own doing at all.)
Betong was fun, but at the beginning of the episode, they had called the police, who were also there, bored to tears, and wanting to have something resolved asap. The Chinese brother had wisely just taken a seat outside the office and let me do my thing. It ended with everybody smiling away, laughing, and them telling me to come back to visit. It had taken about four hours for them to finally let me go on though the long border to Malaysia, This entire thing was all in the THAI language of course, with a little TeowChew slang thrown in for fun. (Betong is Thai, but all the people there are ethnic Chinese.)
I've owned homes and raw property in Thailand for over 25 years, have been on both the winning and the losing side of things lots of times. Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Mae Hong Son, Chai Nat, Bangkok, Phuket, Krabi, Songkla, etc. You play with the big dogs long enough and somebody gets a fat bite taken out of their ass a time or two. (Hint: anyone that says a farang can't own property in Thailand, is either a little more than a little slow on the draw, or simply not as clever as they need to be to live here. No PMs please.) The end justifies the means.
Again, if you are playing for real in Thailand (sorry I don't care what any religion says, you have one time around to make your thing happen, and one time only) then somebody is going to get burned every once in a while. You have to be the one that makes damn sure it doesn't happen to you. If you survive, you CAN have a pretty good life here.
Either this is funny to you, or it's not. Well. It's funny to me, I've lived it and can laugh about it. Still living it, and still laughing about it too.
Like the teachers say, I am a pompous arrogant bastard. but then, I'm from Southern California, and we all assume life for what it is. You play your character seriously, you play by the rules like you hope others do, (and lots of times THEY don't,) but never forget to make it FUN, i.e. you get what you need, make damn sure you aren't hurting anybody in the process, and make sure you come out on top more often than on the bottom. I guess the rest of the slow learners here just don't get it yet.
I don't own a bar, a nefarious hotel, nor do I run a nice little farang restaurant. I don't live off somebody else's money (like so many Euro dudes living in Phuket off their little [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-ass inheritances.) I am not afraid of much of anything, especially not here. And, I STILL learn the languages in every place where I live or work, sure it's hard, especially for an old guy, but in my circle of influence, this simply is a must, a basic requirement of life. IF you want to be any kind of a REAL success at anything that is. Success has lots of definitions, I am living mine.
Quick one: Down on the road where I exit my driveway there is a well off Thai family with a nice home at the corner of the lane. I talk to them all the time. The wife there told me a great story about how her husband just qualified to buy a hand gun (pistola) to keep in the house (again, if you are monied up enough here, anything is possible.) He got a new .357 magnum. Last night, the guy spent the entire evening looking at himself in the mirror, posing, talking to himself and making out like he was cowboy, and indian, a cop, a thief, etc. The wife thought this to be hilarious, of course, and related it to me with a tremendous amount of mirth, enthusiasm, and outrageously well animated gyrations. We both spent 20 minutes in total uncontrolled laughter as she told and retold the story. Now, get it for yourself: I would never have experienced this supreme moment in time had I not known the people, their culture and their language, intimately. This has nothing to do with anything but the sharing of pure heart to heart communication with another human being. If you limit yourself, it is your own fault.
You have one time around the block. Be lazy at your own expense, just stay out of the way of the dudes who aren't. I don't plan to retire for another 20 years, having too much of a good time doing what I do now.
Thanks for reminding me!
People that can't speak the language in the country where they live, are like those who don't know how to read. Hide it, defend it, absolve yourself of it, but in the end you are like the person missing the joys of reading a great book. Being ignorant of the possibilities of life, you are missing out on the realities of life. Why go through life deaf and dumb if all it takes is a few minutes a day to educate yourself? Inexcusable.
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Have a 8 month old, Thai / Farang daughter that is 8 months old.
Honestly, all I'm concerned about is her education and long term prospects.
I'm fairly well so, don't care how much it cost for her education. What are my options?
Then, after her education what would I require to ensure her future employment.
Understand the primilary education is cheap (by Western Standards), I'm just looking for the $$$$$ that'll be required to ensure she gets a good paying job aftrer her education! Right not I'm planning on a 1-2 million baht pay-off!
Pay-off depending on if she's really capable of handling the job!
Any recommendations on planning a new borns future?
Especially, if the new born if half Thai/half fanrang with no plans of moving/relocating to the USA
I'd even take recommendation of sending her to the states for her education, as she's an only child and money is not object (with in reason (standard USA College cost).
Mosquito2002Talk about thinking long term.
Maybe consider giving her a stable home environment with a bit of parental presence from yourself. Maybe consider having a go at settling down with her mother, and putting the money spent on whoring to a higher purpose.
For kids, time is more important than money, although probably more of a sacrifice for you. For what it's worth, my opinion is if you're not thinking of sticking around then you should dump as much money on her mother now as it takes to assuage your guilt and clear out. Let the parent who's prepared to put in the hard yards decide.
Have a 8 month old, Thai / Farang daughter that is 8 months old.
8 months and you are planning for her education, that's dedication and devotion to your child. I'd vote for you as Father of the year
Any recommendations on planning a new borns future??
Especially, if the new born if half Thai/half fanrang with no plans of moving/relocating to the U.S..
I'd even take recommendation of sending her to the states for her education, as she's an only child and money is not object (with in reason (standard U.S. college cost).
Since money is not an issue, send her to the U.S. Better opportunities for her before and after graduation.
One thing is absolutely sure, for me personally, if I didn't speak Thai, and know how to spin the Thais in the direction where I want them to go, (smiling, talking story, buying coffee & doughnuts, acting completely at ease in a super tense situation) I would be in a freaking Betong jail cell today instead of hanging out on Kata Beach on an incredibly beautiful breezy day with a bunch of ice cold sliced pineapple, my laptop, and a fresh coconut with a straw sticking out.
Wow! An 87 word sentence. *clap* *clap* Are you German?
So would you be in jail in Betong, Thailand or Betong, Malaysia?
have a 8 month old, thai / farang daughter that is 8 months old.
honestly, all i'm concerned about is her education and long term prospects.
i'm fairly well so, don't care how much it cost for her education.....what are my options???
then, after her education what would i require to ensure her future employment.
understand the primilary education is cheap (by western standards), i'm just looking for the $$$$$ that'll be required to ensure she gets a good paying job aftrer her education!!! right not i'm planning on a 1-2 million baht pay-off!!
pay-off depending on if she's really capable of handling the job!!!
any recommendations on planning a new borns future??
especially, if the new born if half thai/half fanrang with no plans of moving/relocating to the u.s..
i'd even take recommendation of sending her to the states for her education, as she's an only child and money is not object (with in reason (standard u.s. college cost).
mosquito2002i have been thinking about this a lot recent as i am thinking about having one with my thai girl. here are my thoughts.
- 0-2yr : the mom's parents up north
2yr-5yr: with me, but taking care of by a nanny/maid ( hiring the aunt to do this)
5yr-15yr: international school in bkk
15yr-22yr: hs in usa and college in one of the ivy university. ( stanford is my goal, but i will settle for havard, mit, john hopkins)
22yr-25yr- post grad studies in usa resulting in phd
to prep for her, i would hire the best tutor in from chinatown to teach her chinese ( they will be a major player in the next 10-50 years).
i will hire the best sat prep tutor when she is 8 yrs old to tutor writing and vocab, read comprehension.
i will hire a tutor to teach her speed reading ( this will help her with advance studies) and basic computer science ( web designs and applications, java, api etc. ) ( she will grow up in a world dominated by computers)
i will have her attend some type of martial arts from the age of 10yr up. she will attain a black belt by the time she gets to hs.
she will be a girl scout and learn nature.
she will attend swimming classes.
in addition to being fluent in thai, english, and chinese, i'd want her to study russian, and spanish to some degree.
she will volunteer to help the poor a few week out of the year to keep on grounded and to remove the sense of entitlement.
she will plant rice with the farmers up north each planting season growing up.
i am sure i miss something. overall, i would want a child who knows that with money there is service to help the less fortunate. and to look at the world from the eye of a child who is modest and not a spoiled brat who gets everything handed to on a silver platter as many younger thais from rich family do. she will know how the other have live not by watching stupid thai soaps but by actually being here and doing the dirty but necessary work.
Primo Bolan
06-03-09, 23:28
This is for the guy with the questions about lady boys in Thailand.
The problem with ladyboys is that there is a history of them putting a drug on their nipples and when you suck the nipple you then passed out and they rob you. They also have been robbing guys in various ways like drug their drink etc.
So be very careful.
Some hotels let you bring them in and if you do its good if they show id.
There has been problems with them still acting agressive and even many pickpockets that are lady boys.
Another problem is that if you are drinking you may not know that its a ladyboy?
I am returning to Bangkok and want to know where the best bars are for real girl on girl action.
I am bringing my filipina with me and she wants to get up and lick real pussy. Its only been a year since I have been there but I hear things change a bit and I may have missed something since I usually travelled alone there.
Is gullivers better or worse?
I dont know where to begin. Where do you get your info? Well I have friends that have this going-with-ladyboys-thing on their mind when going out in LOS. Never heard anything about what you describe, from them. What I do hear sometimes is that freebies tries to drug the farang and then rob him. But this is in general, not only with Ladyboys.
Try the Patts daily, and do some reading, or travel more, before you post!
i dont know where to begin. where do you get your info? well i have friends that have this going-with-ladyboys-thing on their mind when going out in los. never heard anything about what you describe, from them. what i do hear sometimes is that freebies tries to drug the farang and then rob him. but this is in general, not only with ladyboys.
try the patts daily, and do some reading, or travel more, before you post!
http://thailand.baronbonk.com/date_rape_drugs.shtml
date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drugs
i have said it before but it keeps coming up; and all too often it is thailand regulars who get caught. beware the so called date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drugs. they are being used daily in bangkok and, i believe, also in pattaya.
despite their name, the drugs are principally being used to facilitate robbery. they make you malleable and drowsy but still able to be moved (walked). so a person who has been drugged will generally just appear to be drunk.
sometimes the drugs will cause you to give up information, such as pin numbers etc. at the very least, your hotel room, or apartment, will be cleaned out.
one description of the drugs reads: “ the drugs often have no colour, smell or taste and are easily added to flavored drinks without the victim's knowledge. there are at least three date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drugs ……… the drugs can affect you quickly. the length of time that the effects last varies. it depends on how much of the drug is taken and if the drug is mixed with other substances, like alcohol. alcohol can worsen the drug's effects and can cause more health problems. ”
i know of two people who have been drugged in the area around the nana hotel: one in the bar, we think, and one outside. the area immediately outside nana plaza and the hotel car park is truly full of thieves, child pickpockets, dishonest katoeys and criminally minded mangdas.
be careful out there. don't drink from open vessels (glasses) in late outside bars, buy a bottle, make certain you see it opened and then keep it with you.
a man and his wife were drugged in an outside bar near soi 7/1. they later woke up outside a hotel high up sukhumvit, without their gold and money.
in pattaya a while ago there was talk that katoeys put the drug on their nipples, thus disproving the old adage that one of the most useless things in the world is tits on a bull!
apart from wariness additional protection is to make certain any place you stay insists upon taking the id of late night visitors. i know many do not like it but it is in your interest.
similarly, wearing a lot of gold in public will attract the attention of the criminal element, as will flashing money, so be discreet out there.
needless to say paying bar should protect you from these problems: saving that bar fine can be very expensive!
i can't stress enough that the people i know to whom this happened are worldly wise, have been to thailand regularly or live here. they are not idiots. this can happen to anybody, so take care. !
Primo Bolan
06-04-09, 08:09
http://thailand.baronbonk.com/date_rape_drugs.shtmlyou did find something on the web. so what? does it mean anything to you?
Visiting BKK, next week. This 'll be my first time there. Wud like to see some action too. But I'll be wid my wife so looking for a middle label decent hotel near good action spot. Help.
Thanks in advance
BKK Dreaming
06-04-09, 13:14
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The problem with ladyboys is that there is a history of them putting a drug on their nipples and when you suck the nipple you then passed out and they rob you."
just as a technical thing , how do they put this drug on thier body and not be affected themselves ?
Not saying it does not happen but if its so powerfull you would think it would go thru thier skin too.
Bk
Primo Bolan
06-04-09, 13:59
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The problem with ladyboys is that there is a history of them putting a drug on their nipples and when you suck the nipple you then passed out and they rob you."
just as a technical thing , how do they put this drug on thier body and not be affected themselves ?
Not saying it does not happen but if its so powerfull you would think it would go thru thier skin too.
Bk
Maybe they use somekind of barrier type vaseline and then they put on the Upjohn.
PB
Robbery is always a potential problem.
Sometimes its from drinking too much and then you are a victim of opportunity.
I have been walking down sumkumvit late at night and its been the lady boys that have tried to pick my wallet and pocket. In Bangkok. If I had been drunk then I would have been an easy target but I was aware of what they were doing.
It was the kids in cebu and manila, Philippines.
The information I get is from the Bangkok newspaper and hanging out and the police looking for suspects in robberies.
I read the Bangkok news when I am there, and I talk to people and I observe behavior.
It happens also in usa. Its not a really big problem but still something to be aware of and on guard.
I have been living in the Philippines and there is a lot of crime going on that is unreported and also in the newspaper.
I do not know exactly how they do it but I have also been approached by women that want me to go somewhere with them and it just feels wrong due to the story they tell me about going to a different part of town to meet and talk to someone that wants information about where I come from.
Most of the guys that are travelling and into this hobby know what the dangers are and the reason I wrote was because of a question in this forum.
There are drugs that are absorbed through the skin and some have to be ingested to be effective.
It is possible that the drug is put in a glass or in a drink and not on the nipple?
I had a thai girlfriend that was robbed three times in one year.
Fortunately for us tourist we are relatively safe if we exercise some caution. Also I am well aware that robbery and scams are not just exclusive to any one type of person.
I am sure if a guy wants to find quality ladyboy? Whatever your definition you can find some honest ones?
In the Philippines I know many scams by many real women and lady boys. I do not hang out with the lady boys but try to keep up with the situations that are in my neighborhood and areas where I go right now I am fucked out by three great filipina girls. So if my writing here is without clarity its just I am tired.
Hope to be back in Bangkok this July with my number one filipina girl and she loves girls as much as I do.
I do not understand the part about do some reading and travel more before you post?
What is up with that. \? If I waited to post till I knew all the answers I would never post.
As with any information its like take what you can use and forget the rest.
I do lots of reading and internet research on places I travel to.
And I appreciate this forum to get information and sometimes I just want to give my 2 cents worth of information.
And yes sometimes all information is loaded with misinformation. But if it helps in anyway to find more information then why not?
So if I post something and someone has better or more information then please post any information and I will check it out and if its useful then I will use it? If its not useful then thanks for the effort.
I have limited expierence of being in Thailand over a period of three years spending maybe five months or more a year there. And its been over a year since I have last been there.
I spent a lot of time at nana. And was there when the police were rounding up lots of lady boys. Of course I was curious about what the police were doing and started asking questions and reading. I saw several lady boys hiding from the police. And several were taken away by the police.
I was fairly new to the Bangkok area at the time and for all I knew it was illegal to be a katoy ?
But with reading the news and other people sources including the police I did find out there was a problem with several foreign visitors being drugged and robbed by lady boys. Now unknown to me if this is a continuing problem and like most problems I have no idea what percentage of the lady boys were involved?
Since that time I have also been robbed by the police through extortion and I have had a few friends thrown in jail by the police because they did not pay the extortion. This is both in Thailand and in Philippines.
Okay so lets get back to where the best girls are and the best deals for the hobbyist and the visitor looking for pussy,
Like what is the latest about patpong? And where are the best areas to go for pussy/
I have always like the nana area and soi cowboy.
What is the current pricing and tipping expectations? .
And yes I get confused because I am in many different countries and have very little blood flow in my upper head.
I am sure I am missing something else?
Professor 1
06-04-09, 18:46
15yr-22yr: HS in USA and college in one of the IVY university. ( stanford is my goal, but I will settle for Havard, MIT, John Hopkins)
With all due respect, Stanford, MIT, and Johns Hopkins do not fall within the Ivy League category. This notwithstanding, they are outstanding, top of the first-tier national Research I universities. You may desire to consider first-tier national liberal arts colleges as well, such as Swarthmore, Smith, Grinnell, and the like.
my last trip in bkk was 1st week of april (i go in bkk 4 times a year since 2 years for 1 week stay).
began with some st, going in beergarden (catch bee, see report and pics previous report), get some other girls in the street bar late in the night, going to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s, sol and eden club.
the 3rd day, i was having a drink in the afternoon outside new wave soi 7, looking at people and girls.
a small group of girls was seating not far from me, eating as usual, making up for the night, etc.
one of them, named may, was looking a lot to me but seemed not very shy but not pushy at all.
she began to speak to me, usual question, what are you doing, how long do you stay, etc.
we decided to go to my room, never asking how long, never speak about money
very good sex party, very nice body, very gfe.
she has 2 girls, she supports only her daughters and sometimes help brother and parents.
i (we? ) fall like in love, we stayed together 6 days till the end of my holidays, we did a lot of things, shopping, bars, pool bar, spice club, restaurants, meeting her friends. etc.
i felt like to be integrated to her life and her surroundings, every girl in soi 7 and soi 5 was knowing me as her farang bf, very kind with me when i was alone (when she was going to see her daughters 2 hours every 2 days).
a very good moment that put me deep in bg lifestyle and way of living. i felt like i was living there for a long time.
i repeat i spend very very good time with her.
if i was not married, i would think of keeping her but.
she is very lucid, saying me she can not wait for me, need to work, doing what she has to do (and what she wants to do, because as she said, it’s not a willing but a need to do what she do), she said always to me she is a bad girl (for me, she is a really good girl but doing a bad girl work);
she well sees the things, knowing living together is impossible, can not wait for me, never speaking about future because she said she can not know how tomorrow will be she said to me we will stay friend and stay in contact and meet each other maybe one day. our life are to different to be together one day
she scared me telling me what kind of guy she met and what some of them were treating her.
at the end, i had to go back home, but we stayed in contact by email, phone or sms about every 2 days till today. sometimes i was regretting to have not done more with other girls and stayed too long and exclusively with her but it was so great with her.
i precise i gave her some money and buy a lot of things but she never ask me any amount, always thanking me a lot when i pay present or give money at the end of my stay.
since my departure (it was just before the last evenements in april), she told me that bkk is very quite, nobody there, nothing to do and. no chance winning money; she said a friend of her wants to go to singapore to try better business, she planned to go there in may 20th.
i try to persuade her to stay in bkk till my next trip (june 15th for 1 week) and go later in singapore if she wants. i promise her to give money but she never ask me for.
last week, she was still in bkk, and doesn’t know when she leave. i have to say i was hoping she stay till my arrival.(selfish)
but today. breakdown! she call me to say she is leaving tonight and she is so sorry not waiting for me. i tried to keep her in bkk but decision was taken and i imagine she called me at the last moment for not changing her mind
i am so sad and disappointed; i am just near to cancel my next trip planned in 2 weeks.
i hope i will have some news of her, she promise me to give me some and call me when she come back in bkk but she thinks it will not be before 1 or 2 months. she said to me to enjoy my next holidays and hope to see me one day.
i have now to make some new plans for my next stay: eden, tulip, sol. and bg like her.
it is too much new to feel good with my next trip but i think i will go there and enjoy bkk life as usual but i am afraid i will always think of her when i will go in places we used to go together.
but, i know when i will be there i will enjoy and maybe if i was with her, i will regret one day to refrain from going with other girl and having good time. maybe i would be cut in 2. now, things are clear, i will have no regret and i hope i will see her in a few months.
i have to say that i hope she will not feel good in singapore and she will come back earlier (when she know i am in bkk and able to help her); but if not, i will have good time.
what do think of that? am i under tg hypnotism? am i a smooth heart? did you live same experience?
i must apology for 2 things:
-english is not my native language so i hope you will understand how i feel.
-very long and maybe not clear post, but i really needed to write this (like a therapy)
fred
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Redfield10
06-04-09, 22:11
With all due respect, Stanford, MIT, and Johns Hopkins do not fall within the Ivy League category. This notwithstanding, they are outstanding, top of the first-tier national Research I universities. You may desire to consider first-tier national liberal arts colleges as well, such as Swarthmore, Smith, Grinnell, and the like.Maybe Stanford and MIT aren't technically Ivy League schools, but they are more difficult to get into than "most" of the Ivies....with perhaps the exception of Harvard or Yale.
Visiting BKK, next week. This 'll be my first time there. Wud like to see some action too. But I'll be wid my wife so looking for a middle label decent hotel near good action spot. Help.
Thanks in advanceNana Hotel on Soi 4 is about as close to the action as you can get.
A search in the Bangkok Hotels thread will give more info about it, so you can decide whether or not it suits you.
If you miss her so much, why not take a few days and go to Singapore to see her. If she is working in the day time, you can see her after work.
NicFrenchy
06-05-09, 02:03
What do think of that? Am I under TG hypnotism? Am I a smooth heart? Did you live same experience?
Yes, yes and no.
Forget about her, there are hundreds just like her in all of Bangkok.
No, this never happened to me because in a P4P situation, I like that things are clear: I pay for sex, not a relationship.
If the girl is nice and very attentive, it's a bonus but I usually don't repeat often to avoid getting too comfortable with 1 girl.
Just try some other ones ;)
If you miss her so much, why not take a few days and go to Singapore to see her. If she is working in the day time, you can see her after work.Yes, I thought about doing that but I ask her to give me a way to contact her in Singapore and even tell her I would like to go andsee her.
She repplies me she don't where she will be, don't know if she will have a phone or be able to get internet.
Am I beggining to open eyes or maybe she don't want me to see her "at work"? Or she wants to cut relation because she knows we can not ahave future together and want to keep chance to find an husband?
Fred
Yes, yes and no.
Forget about her, there are hundreds just like her in all of Bangkok.
No, this never happened to me because in a P4P situation, I like that things are clear: I pay for sex, not a relationship.
If the girl is nice and very attentive, it's a bonus but I usually don't repeat often to avoid getting too comfortable with 1 girl.
Just try some other ones ;)Thank you
Maybe I felt comfortable with her because we never speak about money (but I gave some); next time I will be clear, speak about money (because girl is with me for money).
I think I have to be a little more rude, remembering I am with a girl in P4P situation and just think about my pleasure.
I will try to forget about her and have good time, even if I think I will try to see her again in the future (for relationship)
My therapy is begginning, thank you
Fred
Maybe best to try what Nic suggests and see if you dont feel better after. ;)
I personally do not repeat very often for same reasons. Life is good..
break you heart!
sounds like you need to.
these girls fuck men for money. they want money. they all dream about finding a sponser, someone willing to give her money on a regular basis so she can pick and choose other customers and not be desperate.
presently she is playing with you.
not asking for anything, but letting you know if she has no money, she has to work and you might not be able to see her.
these are the dangerous ones.
make a choice.
either forget her and move on.
or realise its "pay 4 play" and you will only pay when you play. let her know that she can go work and you will find someone else. simply tell her "ok, have a good time in singapore and might see you if you are back, if not then maybe next year".
this will let her know where she stands. she can choose to be a long term friend with you, or she will forget you and move to find a real mug punter willing to sponser her.
my last trip in bkk was 1st week of april (i go in bkk 4 times a year since 2 years for 1 week stay).
began with some st, going in beergarden (catch bee, see report and pics previous report), get some other girls in the street bar late in the night, going to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s, sol and eden club.
the 3rd day, i was having a drink in the afternoon outside new wave soi 7, looking at people and girls.
a small group of girls was seating not far from me, eating as usual, making up for the night, etc.
one of them, named may, was looking a lot to me but seemed not very shy but not pushy at all.
she began to speak to me, usual question, what are you doing, how long do you stay, etc.
we decided to go to my room, never asking how long, never speak about money
very good sex party, very nice body, very gfe.
she has 2 girls, she supports only her daughters and sometimes help brother and parents.
i (we? ) fall like in love, we stayed together 6 days till the end of my holidays, we did a lot of things, shopping, bars, pool bar, spice club, restaurants, meeting her friends. etc.
i felt like to be integrated to her life and her surroundings, every girl in soi 7 and soi 5 was knowing me as her farang bf, very kind with me when i was alone (when she was going to see her daughters 2 hours every 2 days).
a very good moment that put me deep in bg lifestyle and way of living. i felt like i was living there for a long time.
i repeat i spend very very good time with her.
if i was not married, i would think of keeping her but.
she is very lucid, saying me she can not wait for me, need to work, doing what she has to do (and what she wants to do, because as she said, it’s not a willing but a need to do what she do), she said always to me she is a bad girl (for me, she is a really good girl but doing a bad girl work);
she well sees the things, knowing living together is impossible, can not wait for me, never speaking about future because she said she can not know how tomorrow will be she said to me we will stay friend and stay in contact and meet each other maybe one day. our life are to different to be together one day
she scared me telling me what kind of guy she met and what some of them were treating her.
at the end, i had to go back home, but we stayed in contact by email, phone or sms about every 2 days till today. sometimes i was regretting to have not done more with other girls and stayed too long and exclusively with her but it was so great with her.
i precise i gave her some money and buy a lot of things but she never ask me any amount, always thanking me a lot when i pay present or give money at the end of my stay.
since my departure (it was just before the last evenements in april), she told me that bkk is very quite, nobody there, nothing to do and. no chance winning money; she said a friend of her wants to go to singapore to try better business, she planned to go there in may 20th.
i try to persuade her to stay in bkk till my next trip (june 15th for 1 week) and go later in singapore if she wants. i promise her to give money but she never ask me for.
last week, she was still in bkk, and doesn’t know when she leave. i have to say i was hoping she stay till my arrival.(selfish)
but today. breakdown! she call me to say she is leaving tonight and she is so sorry not waiting for me. i tried to keep her in bkk but decision was taken and i imagine she called me at the last moment for not changing her mind
i am so sad and disappointed; i am just near to cancel my next trip planned in 2 weeks.
i hope i will have some news of her, she promise me to give me some and call me when she come back in bkk but she thinks it will not be before 1 or 2 months. she said to me to enjoy my next holidays and hope to see me one day.
i have now to make some new plans for my next stay: eden, tulip, sol. and bg like her.
it is too much new to feel good with my next trip but i think i will go there and enjoy bkk life as usual but i am afraid i will always think of her when i will go in places we used to go together.
but, i know when i will be there i will enjoy and maybe if i was with her, i will regret one day to refrain from going with other girl and having good time. maybe i would be cut in 2. now, things are clear, i will have no regret and i hope i will see her in a few months.
i have to say that i hope she will not feel good in singapore and she will come back earlier (when she know i am in bkk and able to help her); but if not, i will have good time.
what do think of that? am i under tg hypnotism? am i a smooth heart? did you live same experience?
i must apology for 2 things:
-english is not my native language so i hope you will understand how i feel.
-very long and maybe not clear post, but i really needed to write this (like a therapy)
fred
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
LittleBigMan
06-05-09, 14:58
AndyBKK,
Good planning but it's nice one has money but you forgot something for your kid? Are you going to pick who your son or daughter is going to marry?
Mosquito2002, on a more serious note. Just like myself you have a child with due citizenship. The difference between you and me is that you have the bucks. When it comes to education I just knew sooner or later you are going to need this guys regardless of how negative many of you feel about his views. I highly suggest you contact " OldThaiHand " about the education system and what type of school there are in Thailand that would meet your goals.
You have also been criticized for not maybe spending time with her which is true and 100% important. But since your wife is Thai, personally I think where she comes from and what type of mother she is going to be is so very important but only you can answer that! If your wife isn't a hands on wife and mother and you don't plan on being around and she is going to be one of those rich little girls being care for by others like in the Thai soap's then you want to consider sending her away to the states to a top private boarding school to give her the best education possible. When you contact OTH, and find out your options on education in Thailand that would be a start. Regardless, in the end if you want to send her to a top school in the U.S. you better make sure whatever school credits in Thailand are going to be excepted in the U.S. colleges without her having to backtrack.
Go to the Thai Women Opinion etc... that where OTH, hangs out the most..
For myself, I'm limited in funds so my son will grow up in Thailand and the best I can hope for is that he grows up to be a good kid with ethics, values and honest and not afraid to work hard like his Papa.
Good luck, LBM
Ok,
Seems there are some guys here falling deep into the pussy trap.
The Pro has hit the nail on the head, don't confuse sex workers with girlfriends. Ok, some (the smart ones) they may not ask directly for cash, they know we have hearts though and so it pains us to hear of their struggle etc etc etc. What do we do, give them money anyway and feel good that it was our choice and that they did not ASK for it.
These are the dangerous ones, when you drop your guard and they get under your skin.
Guys, go to Thailand, have fun, treat the girls well, don't be rude, arrogant or any other form of a ****, but enjoy the experience for what it is. Beautiful girls who know how to make you feel good, feel special. In the end, give them some cash, you go home and they find the next 'mark'. Everyone wins.
Do NOT, come home and PINE about a bargirl who is calling you between sessions of sucking cock for money.
Now this may be over simplified and I'm sure there are a few exceptions (although not around sukhumvit, patpong, nana cowboy, Pattaya, phuket etc), but if it helps, try and remember this phrase. "Good Thai Women Fall For Good Thai Men".
Peace,
Pompoy
Mosquito: I sympathise with your situation but, really, why would you ask a question about the proper upbringing of your child on a board dedicated to ***prostitution***.
Have a 8 month old, Thai / Farang daughter that is 8 months old.
Honestly, all I'm concerned about is her education and long term prospects.
I'm fairly well so, don't care how much it cost for her education.....what are my options???
Then, after her education what would I require to ensure her future employment.
Understand the primilary education is cheap (by Western Standards), I'm just looking for the $$$$$ that'll be required to ensure she gets a good paying job aftrer her education!!! Right not I'm planning on a 1-2 million baht pay-off!!
Pay-off depending on if she's really capable of handling the job!!!
Any recommendations on planning a new borns future??
Especially, if the new born if half Thai/half fanrang with no plans of moving/relocating to the U.S..
I'd even take recommendation of sending her to the states for her education, as she's an only child and money is not object (with in reason (standard U.S. college cost).
Mosquito2002
GoodEnough
06-05-09, 23:40
Maybe best to try what Nic suggests and see if you dont feel better after. ;)
I personally do not repeat very often for same reasons. Life is good..
I think many, if not most of us have had similar experiences. Mine occurred when I was much younger and had not yet developed the same attitude expressed by Nic. These girls are, after all, human beings, and we react to their humanity when we meet those who are compassionate, fun, and apparently honest with us.
I think it's important though to recognize this for what it is: a one-off good time that was an opportunity to spend some quality moments with someone who, for whatever reason, touched you. There are many such moments in life and this was but one of them.
I'm older now, more interested in my own emotional survival and I've developed an attitude and approach that's more akin to Nic's. I enjoy the company if it's good, and the sex, if it's good, but I never forget that this is, au fond (at heart) a commercial situation.
GE
Member #3428
06-05-09, 23:53
I think many, if not most of us have had similar experiences. Mine occurred when I was much younger and had not yet developed the same attitude expressed by Nic. These girls are, after all, human beings, and we react to their humanity when we meet those who are compassionate, fun, and apparently honest with us.
I think it's important though to recognize this for what it is: a one-off good time that was an opportunity to spend some quality moments with someone who, for whatever reason, touched you. There are many such moments in life and this was but one of them.
I'm older now, more interested in my own emotional survival and I've developed an attitude and approach that's more akin to Nic's. I enjoy the company if it's good, and the sex, if it's good, but I never forget that this is, au fond (at heart) a commercial situation.
GE
OH come on guys. Give the guy a break. I'm positive that if you've mongered enough, that we've all had a few girls that we clicked well with and that we keep in touch with that is more then a commercial transaction. I'm not talking about getting daily updates and such, but girls we see every now and then or when we are in town just for the good feelings and enjoyment.
Currently I have a few that I can ring up for just good sex, no money issues, just slip them some money to help them out if the want it, but money is never discussed and is not the issue, just good feeling and friendship. Hell there are four in BKK that I can call up and all four are married or with sponsors that will still get out and screw me for just old times sake and enjoyment and never take a baht, they even pay for the short time room or I go to their condo paid for by their sponsors / husbands ;) . I gotta love you sponsors out there, you make it so easy for some of us :D
And I'm sure most of you folks have the same thing. Even Nic, I'm sure the cold harted bastard that he is has a few girls that will SMS him at times that he'll jump on and hump every once in a while just for the sport of it :D
So what's the problem with the guy keeping in touch with her and enjoying her. Let her do her life and work the bar scene and such and he can still enjoy time with her when he's around. It sounds like she was very realistic to him and didn't play a massive game on him, he just needs not to fall head over heels and leave his family or life for her. Just enjoy her as a good sex friend and that's that.
EDIT: I never understood this not repeat thing. The best sex comes after the first few times. When you are more comfortable with each other and know what each other like. If it is good the first time go in for more and really enjoy it. And that leads to many freebie and out of work encounters if you repeat.
Yes, I thought about doing that but I ask her to give me a way to contact her in Singapore and even tell her I would like to go andsee her.
She repplies me she don't where she will be, don't know if she will have a phone or be able to get internet.
Fred
We can tell you where you can find her in Singapore...maybe just browse on the relevant forum on Geylang and to see the locations
Good chances you bump into her..
Honestly..give yourself a kick and forget her
Mosquito: I sympathise with your situation but, really, why would you ask a question about the proper upbringing of your child on a board dedicated to ***prostitution***.
To an ISG novice at first glance, your point would be understandable but to any regular 1SG viewer/contributor his question would be quite fitting. The conversations here sometimes explores real estate options, investments, marriage counseling, retirement options, medical and dental solutions, politics and a host of other real-world issues. Therefore, I'd say this board expands way beyond the narrow scope of only discussing prostitution and at times does provide some viable solutions to member's life queries.
We can tell you where you can find her in Singapore...maybe just browse on the relevant forum on Geylang and to see the locations.
Good chances you bump into her.
Honestly..give yourself a kick and forget herAfter 2 days and reading post. I will not go to Singapore, give myself a kick, enjoy P4P in BKK, not stay to long with girl (even good in brain) except sex bomb. But not forget her, just keep her in my memory and maybe meet her again in the future when I will go to my usual spots. I will not run after her
Fred
OH come on guys. Give the guy a break. I'm positive that if you've mongered enough, that we've all had a few girls that we clicked well with and that we keep in touch with that is more then a commercial transaction. I'm not talking about getting daily updates and such, but girls we see every now and then or when we are in town just for the good feelings and enjoyment.
Currently I have a few that I can ring up for just good sex, no money issues, just slip them some money to help them out if the want it, but money is never discussed and is not the issue, just good feeling and friendship. Hell there are four in BKK that I can call up and all four are married or with sponsors that will still get out and screw me for just old times sake and enjoyment and never take a baht, they even pay for the short time room or I go to their condo paid for by their sponsors / husbands ;) . I gotta love you sponsors out there, you make it so easy for some of us :D
And I'm sure most of you folks have the same thing. Even Nic, I'm sure the cold harted bastard that he is has a few girls that will SMS him at times that he'll jump on and hump every once in a while just for the sport of it :D
So what's the problem with the guy keeping in touch with her and enjoying her. Let her do her life and work the bar scene and such and he can still enjoy time with her when he's around. It sounds like she was very realistic to him and didn't play a massive game on him, he just needs not to fall head over heels and leave his family or life for her. Just enjoy her as a good sex friend and that's that.
EDIT: I never understood this not repeat thing. The best sex comes after the first few times. When you are more comfortable with each other and know what each other like. If it is good the first time go in for more and really enjoy it. And that leads to many freebie and out of work encounters if you repeat.I keep her phone number, see her when she is in BKK, having sex and good time with her but not plan to leave my life and I confirm she is realistic and realy don't seem to play a lot with me. During 2 months, never ask for money, decided a long time ago to go to Singapore. When she said she's at the airport, I said her to stay and I send immediately money but she didn't say yes, she said no. I really think she is honnest with me but has to drive her life without any help of MR.
I think many, if not most of us have had similar experiences. Mine occurred when I was much younger and had not yet developed the same attitude expressed by Nic. These girls are, after all, human beings, and we react to their humanity when we meet those who are compassionate, fun, and apparently honest with us.
I think it's important though to recognize this for what it is: a one-off good time that was an opportunity to spend some quality moments with someone who, for whatever reason, touched you. There are many such moments in life and this was but one of them.
I'm older now, more interested in my own emotional survival and I've developed an attitude and approach that's more akin to Nic's. I enjoy the company if it's good, and the sex, if it's good, but I never forget that this is, au fond (at heart) a commercial situation.
GEI am not so young but it's not the 1st time it happens to me;
But with the other girls I stayed with, they were asking money just a few days after my departure, with 'funny' reasons like loose her day regular job, or someone rob her money, or.
I see these girls sometimes but I also play with them, giving money but having lot of sex (and having for my money in average! )
This time seems different and it is now a real part of my life, I think I never forget that.
I will try to see her again but it will not be a target (it was 2 days ago, not now any more); she seems to be so a good girl that I would like to look after her just to be sure she is safe and have a decent life.
Break you heart!
Sounds like you need to.
These girls fuck men for money. They want money. They all dream about finding a sponser, someone willing to give her money on a regular basis so she can pick and choose other customers and not be desperate.
Presently she is playing with you.
Not asking for anything, but letting you know if she has no money, she has to work and you might not be able to see her.
These are the dangerous ones.
Make a choice.
Either forget her and move on.
Or realise its "pay 4 play" and you will only pay when you play. Let her know that she can go work and you will find someone else. Simply tell her "ok, have a good time in Singapore and might see you if you are back, if not then maybe next year".
This will let her know where she stands. She can choose to be a long term friend with you, or she will forget you and move to find a real mug punter willing to sponser her.Thank you for your advice, seems to be god advices.
I will see if she try to contact me after her trip in Singapore (and back with money). If she contact me and not ask money. Maybe she wants to stay a long time friend and meet her again.
If I have no news, . She wants to forget me cause no future together and doesn't want to be broken heart (? )
If she ask for money just when she comes back telling me Singapore was not good for job. I will cut with her
Maybe best to try what Nic suggests and see if you dont feel better after. ;)
I personally do not repeat very often for same reasons. Life is good..That's what I will do!
LittleBigMan
06-06-09, 03:25
Run Mann,
Well put, but there will always be those that pay their $19.95 and expect to travel down a narrow road.
LBM
NicFrenchy
06-06-09, 03:30
Even Nic, I'm sure the cold harted bastard that he is has a few girls that will SMS him at times that he'll jump on and hump every once in a while just for the sport of it :D
Yes, I'll give you that... there are a few that SMS me from time to time BUT, I give them mi dick, not my heart.
You know I am more of a "Farang girl" type of guy so as far as I am concerned, you can take all the Thai pusy and leave me the rest :)
So what's the problem with the guy keeping in touch with her and enjoying her. Let her do her life and work the bar scene and such and he can still enjoy time with her when he's around.
But the biggest problem is that a lot of guys Fall in love with the girl.
Member #3428
06-07-09, 01:36
But the biggest problem is that a lot of guys Fall in love with the girl.
True, but most girls have a few favorite customers that they still like to be with for good feeling. They live their lives, we live ours and everyone is happy.
Break you heart!
Sounds like you need to.
These girls fuck men for money. They want money. They all dream about finding a sponser, someone willing to give her money on a regular basis so she can pick and choose other customers and not be desperate.
Presently she is playing with you.
Not asking for anything, but letting you know if she has no money, she has to work and you might not be able to see her.
These are the dangerous ones.
Make a choice.
Either forget her and move on.
Or realise its "pay 4 play" and you will only pay when you play. Let her know that she can go work and you will find someone else. Simply tell her "ok, have a good time in Singapore and might see you if you are back, if not then maybe next year".
This will let her know where she stands. She can choose to be a long term friend with you, or she will forget you and move to find a real mug punter willing to sponser her.
I second that Fred. From what you have writte someone can get the impression that she is a emotional vampire and you are her prey. There are those girls who feel that you are a jealous but good hearted guy. So, why not tell you some stories about bad customer and that she does the job to feed her children. Often it works that the customer than pay her a monthly fee and she promiss not more to work. He thinks he can keep her, or he thinks he can make life easier for her. She has money from maybe several sponsors and will most likely still work as prostitute. As she said, who knows what will be tomorrow?
So, whose lose in those games are the sponsor and all other men, because the sponsor spoil the market. Whose win are the girls, but they get spoiled. So, biggest mistake in the p4p area is the sponsorship, I would say.
Not sure if I am in the right spot to ask this question, but I was wondering if anyone had an experience to try to meet any gals off the www.sexsearchcom.com site?
I joined up (the free membership section) and had a look but couldn't work out if the gals on the Thai/Philippines sites are genuine GF's in the making or FL's or camgals trying to hook up with any potential clients they can talk into accessing their online service?
Jason Tenn
06-07-09, 10:12
trip log: days 1 and 2 (6.05.2009. 6.06.2009)
after a long day of flying, arrived in bkk around 12:30 am on saturday the 16th. due to a lot of prior planning, chatting and negotiating (mostly on adult friend finder), i had arranged for a very cute, young thai girl to meet me at the airport and escort me to my hotel. for those of you not dealing with customs, it was a breeze. just handed passport to agent who did not say a word, and five minutes later i am good to go. stopped by the bank to trade for some baht, and went to meet my escort. this made dealing with the taxi process much easier, and the first three hours in the room much more entertaining. i had to force her to take some taxi money, and she wants to bring her lesbian friend over next time. look for some pics of her at the photo gallery. gee, what is a monger to do?
to tell you a little about livingstone’s lodge and the staff and room: i arrived much later than anticipated, but was still greeted at the taxi with a smile and help bringing my bags in. i had arranged with guido earlier a nice rate on a junior suite due to the duration of my stay. i have yet had a chance to meet guido or giotto, but i am looking forward to that and meeting the lovely bar girls. the room is spacious, a large king size bed, nice dressers, tv, dvd player, mini bar, bathroom with double jacuzzi, shower and sink. very nice, a really good value. the lodge itself is located not far at all from a sky train terminal, and is very convenient to a near by 7/11, a few bars, soi cowboy and love teens.
after about a four hour nap, woke up and had a bite to eat. i decided to go and try to find a cell phone to use, and started walking around taking in the town. a really friendly malaysian gentleman stopped me to talk, turns out he has a sister moving to my home state to work as a nurse, so we have a nice dialogue. i tell him about my quest to find a cell phone, and he offers to show me to the local mega mall and help get a good phone at a fair price. we get on the bus and head to the mall, pick out a phone and he negotiates a great deal for me. he then shows me how to use the sky train, and i head back to the lodge. it’s great to know that even so far away from home there are still some true, genuine great people all over the world. for those curious, its just a simple nokia but works well. 950b for phone, 99 for dtac sim card.
at noon, i had scheduled a meeting with a fellow forum member, who i spent the day with learning the ropes of thailand and mongering. it was great to hear one on one the way things work and to be shown all the local hot spots. we went by several places to check out the girls, including edens, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (almost got ganged by 20 workers in the alley, damn), and then went to several soapies, taking in the services of two of them. the first one was a so/so experience, the second was by far, the best soapie we have found and used so far which is hi-class. (www.hi-classmassage.com) 2 hours is only 1700 baht for fishboal, 2100 for sideliners. the girls are all 7+ (several 9, one or two 10 in my book). the girl i had was excellent gfe, kissed all session, bbbj, i ate her pussy and plowed her until she was exhausted, then cuddled and came on her belly. i highly recommend #226, ooy. don't wear her out though, planning seeing her a lot we had visited most of the soaps in that area (huai khwang exit from subway) and most had 10-30 girls in fishbowl, some were cute, most 5-7 with occasional 8+. a few stood out, but at this lower rate, much larger selection, it was no contest. hi-class had easily 50 girls in the bowl and they were all contenders for my time and money.
after that, met up again and headed to soi cowboy, running into another fellow isg member. we went into suzie wong for some drinks, and two of us left with very sexy bar girls. nothing like watching sexy nude thai chicks to get the libido flowing again. we thought we explained our intentions of bringing them back to a room together and having some group fun, but they seemed not to get that message clearly, so the night was mostly a bust on that account. but, before we left the mamasan gave me a nice lapdance, felt me up and gave me some pretty forceful kisses and promised to set me up anytime i come back, just not sure if she means with her or a bar girl or not. just make sure if you plan on same room action the girls of a good understanding of what is going to happen, haha. my girl changed her lt price on me, so she wound up going home after st. whats on my plate today? who knows. i slept in until 3pm to catch up on jet lag. i have several cute girls from aff wanting to hook up, maybe i will call the cute arab chick. maybe go visit 226, might explore [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or love teens. i am leaning to checking out edens. either way, will post a detailed report on each experience here just for you, and in doing so i hope i can help any future first time mongers in this city. when i first arrived, i was intemadated by getting around. just get a map and study it, you will soon find out its very easy to navigate with the trains and subway.
cheers,
jason tenn
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
M P Lurker
06-07-09, 11:17
Currently I have a few that I can ring up for just good sex, no money issues, just slip them some money to help them out if the want it, but money is never discussed and is not the issue, just good feeling and friendship. Hell there are four in BKK that I can call up and all four are married or with sponsors that will still get out and screw me for just old times sake and enjoyment and never take a baht, they even pay for the short time room or I go to their condo paid for by their sponsors / husbands ;) . I gotta love you sponsors out there, you make it so easy for some of us :D I sure these girls are not all in love with Tansak but want a good time and a good fuck just like forum members do.
What's the big deal? They aren't going to leave the big sponsor unless find a better one.
A few girls don't need regular sex and can be faithful to a sponsor. But what percentage?
I think the big issue is that sponsors don't want to be supporting a girl's sponging Thai BF. Her immediate relatives is more than enough already.
Hi,
I'm looking for massage parlours where a girl could fuck me with a strap on dildo.
Is there any known place for this besides EDEN.
Thanks for your help.
LookingToSwing4
06-07-09, 14:33
I have booked my third trip in a row to spend NYE in Pattaya. My flight does not get into BKK until 11:45 PM, so I do not expect to get to the hotel until about 1AM, or a bit later. Currently, I am booked into The Landmark, but can change as their cancellation policy/process is easy, but figured staying in BKK was the easiest decision given my time of arrival.
Here's my question. What time does NEP stay open for business these days? I would really like to drop my bags in the room and head around the corner to find a thai gf for ST, but if they are closing things down at 2AM, that might be difficult if I encounter any delays in-transit. I know there are plenty of freelancers hanging around the Nana Hotel parking lot, but I prefer beer bar or go-go girls. What about the other smaller bars in the NEP vicinity; do they stay open later? What about Patpong or Soi Cowboy? Other options?
The reason I am asking is if it is going to be too much effort to make this happen, I might just stay out at the airport, get a good nights sleep and make my way to Pattaya in the morning.
While I am no stranger the Thailand scene, I would appreciate any advice others might have.
I have booked my third trip in a row to spend NYE in Pattaya. My flight does not get into BKK until 11:45 PM, so I do not expect to get to the hotel until about 1AM, or a bit later. Currently, I am booked into The Landmark, but can change as their cancellation policy/process is easy, but figured staying in BKK was the easiest decision given my time of arrival.
Here's my question. What time does NEP stay open for business these days? I would really like to drop my bags in the room and head around the corner to find a thai gf for ST, but if they are closing things down at 2AM, that might be difficult if I encounter any delays in-transit. I know there are plenty of freelancers hanging around the Nana Hotel parking lot, but I prefer beer bar or go-go girls. What about the other smaller bars in the NEP vicinity; do they stay open later? What about Patpong or Soi Cowboy? Other options?
The bars in that area will close at 2am but the gaggle of chicks will hang around there for some time after that. Many Touts will be in the area offering to take you to late night clubs to find clean beautiful women. Personally after a long flight from JFK at that hour of the night, I would stay in my room and place an order to one of BKK many outcall massage shops to enjoy a relaxing massage with the happy ending of my choice.
LookingToSwing4
06-07-09, 15:11
The bars in that area will close at 2am but the gaggle of chicks will hang around there for some time after that. Many Touts will be in the area offering to take you to late night clubs to find clean beautiful women. Personally after a long flight from JFK at that hour of the night, I would stay in my room and place an order to one of BKK many outcall massage shops to enjoy a relaxing massage with the happy ending of my choice.
That was definitely a thought, but I have never ordered room-service when in BKK. If I were to call, how quickly can they respond to my request? Any recommendations for reputible operators with HOT ladies who I can expect performance from? What about the same service to an airport hote. Any experience?
That was definitely a thought, but I have never ordered room-service when in BKK. If I were to call, how quickly can they respond to my request? Any recommendations for reputible operators with HOT ladies who I can expect performance from? What about the same service to an airport hote. Any experience?
Usually within 30 to 40 minutes, depending on traffic. Go to Bangkok tonight and look at the outcall massage section. Wonderland massage is excellent as well as Kornwan massage but their web site has been down for some time now so can't point out the girls to you. You tell them the kind of girl you want (be specific) and they are pretty good in meeting your requirements but be aware that some girls try to oversell themselves and their services. I have never been disappointed with the service and the mama san (if you can call her that) will actually call you after the session to conduct a customer service survey about your satisfaction with their services.
LittleBigMan
06-07-09, 16:12
LookingToSwing4,
First I think when you said "NYE" you don't mean New York but mean New Years Eve!
Based on the time your are arriving it's either Northwest or Japan Airlines. I have arrived at this time a number of times through the years. In the past I make sure I sit near the exit door and once I'm out I do a quick walk Olympic style past everyone to the Immigration. Once through I get my bags, meter taxi to Nana Hotel, check into room and I'm back out by 1 or 1:15. Pretty of time to go across the street to NEP, and if you're alittle late you can watch outside NEP, and Nana parking lot. Don't see anything go down Sukhumvit opposite Landmark Hotel and check out all the freelancers. Check out Embassador Hotel disco downstairs or outside when it closes. Don't see anything continue down Sukhumvit down to Thermae's and even all the way to Soi Cowboy for freelancers.
You might even want to make a booking at Tulips to have someone meet you at your hotel. Now if you do mean New Year Eve, and I've never been to Bangkok on that day or time you might have problems with traffic. Now if you are planning NYE in Pattaya disregard.
Good luck, LBM
LookingToSwing4
06-07-09, 16:28
LookingToSwing4,
First I think when you said "NYE" you don't mean New York but mean New Years Eve!
Based on the time your are arriving it's either Northwest or Japan Airlines. I have arrived at this time a number of times through the years. In the past I make sure I sit near the exit door and once I'm out I do a quick walk Olympic style past everyone to the Immigration. Once through I get my bags, meter taxi to Nana Hotel, check into room and I'm back out by 1 or 1:15. Pretty of time to go across the street to NEP, and if you're alittle late you can watch outside NEP, and Nana parking lot. Don't see anything go down Sukhumvit opposite Landmark Hotel and check out all the freelancers. Check out Embassador Hotel disco downstairs or outside when it closes. Don't see anything continue down Sukhumvit down to Thermae's and even all the way to Soi Cowboy for freelancers.
You might even want to make a booking at Tulips to have someone meet you at your hotel. Now if you do mean New Year Eve, and I've never been to Bangkok on that day or time you might have problems with traffic. Now if you are planning NYE in Pattaya disregard.
Good luck, LBM\
Yes...New Year's Eve weekend, but I arrive into BKK on 12/28 on United and am not expecting anything other than normal traffic for a Monday evening. I am in economy plus close to the exit and am not planning to check luggage, so I do expect to emerge from immigration fairly quickly. So maybe I should just take a chance and stick with the original plan and just see how it goes? The worst case scenario is that I will head back to the room after a few drinks and get some needed rest before heading to Pattaya the next day. I picked the Landmark because of its close to proximity to NEP so I could be out the door by 1:15 if all goes to planned and have a selection before closing time.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions.
This is my first trip to Asia. I do most of my mongering in the Caribbean, so the Bangkok scene is very new to me. The Caribbean is laid-back and low pressure. Places like Campo Alegre in Curacao are more like resorts with extras. You kick back with a beer in a safe, protected environment and choose from 150 Latinas that each have their own room in a small village-like setting. No hassle, no hustle, no problems, no fears, no worries.
Bangkok seems like it is just the opposite, wild, crazy and chaotic. It will take some getting used to but I am really looking forward to it. I have learned a lot reading the forum but still have a couple of quick questions.
I arrive next Sat night at 11:40PM and I will be staying at the Narai on Silom. I expect to get there sometime after 1:00 AM. Will there be any action in that area at that time? Any possibility of finding a massage at that hour? Is everything open on Sundays?
I read that the bar at the Narai is open until 2am. If I am there before it closes, what are the chances of meeting a girl there, pro or non-pro?
I do know that the Narai has a joiner fee and I have no problem with that for an overnight guest. How do hotels handle a 2-3 hour massage/ST visit? Same fee? No fee?
Other than those questions, I think I have a fairly good idea of where I want to play on this trip. SOL, Annies, Eden and a few others are definitely on the short list. Of course Patpong will be my home turf (walking distance) but the skyway looks pretty easy to use to get to the other playgrounds.
Hopefully I won't be too much of an easy mark, even as a newbee. I consider myself an experienced traveler and not a casual tourist. I hang out in some pretty hard-core parts of places like Jamaica and have a pretty good bullcarp radar. It seems like it's the same dance, but with different music.
Of course the little head has a mind of it's own and it can be very persuasive. Fortunately, the big head only consumes water or diet coke while on the prowl so situational awareness won't be compromised.
I will post reports of my adventures as they happen.
pogo
This is my first trip to Asia. I do most of my mongering in the Caribbean, so the Bangkok scene is very new to me. The Caribbean is laid-back and low pressure. Places like Campo Alegre in Curacao are more like resorts with extras. You kick back with a beer in a safe, protected environment and choose from 150 Latinas that each have their own room in a small village-like setting. No hassle, no hustle, no problems, no fears, no worries.Campo Alegre in Curacao sounds like a nice place to visit. Do you have any ISG reports that you can reference with more specific information?
Bangkok seems like it is just the opposite, wild, crazy and chaotic. It will take some getting used to but I am really looking forward to it. I have learned a lot reading the forum but still have a couple of quick questions.Bangkok is actually a fairly easy going city once you get used to it (which can take time). There's a lot of fun to be had in places that are rarely mentioned on this forum, but that's something that comes with exploration. Silom Rd. traffic is bad during the day, but it is fairly quiet after 9 or 10 pm. Lots a of great places to eat in Silom (mostly on side sois), some very good day markets, and the of couse, infamous Patpong at night. Just remember: Do not take rides in tuk tuks unless just for joyride, and only take taxis that will turn the meter on before you get in and close the door.
I arrive next Sat night at 11:40PM and I will be staying at the Narai on Silom. I expect to get there sometime after 1:00 AM. Will there be any action in that area at that time? Any possibility of finding a massage at that hour? Is everything open on Sundays? It will be very quiet around the Narai at this time, spooky even. The massage shops close around here close at midnight or earlier (Happy, Lisa, etc). One of the guys at the hotel might know a close-by shop to call (for his cousin). If you feel like a walk, there will be a few beer bars open up on Patpong 2 that will have a few girls left. Some of them do not even show up until midnight. The go-go clubs close around 2am, but most of the "nice" ones will already be gone. I would recommend walking up Silom on Narai side of the street to Patpong Soi 2. Walk down Soi 2 past the Foodland store and look for the Cleo Beer Bar. It's a funky old spot right next to the Star of Light (SOL). Have a beer, watch the crazy late night scene for a little while, and you might meet a nice girl at the bar (not beautiful but friendly). There's a short time hotel back toward Silom just past the Foodland on the right (sorry, can't remember the name). If you don't feel like dealing with taking a girl ST or LT the first night you can check out the SOL. Better yet, do that right off the bat as they close around 2am. You can then have your beer at Cleo as it stays open 24/7. Watch out for ladyboys. :eek:
I read that the bar at the Narai is open until 2am. If I am there before it closes, what are the chances of meeting a girl there, pro or non-pro?The Narai is a package tour hotel. When tourism is healthy, the buses line up deep out in front every morning. The bar? Maybe, but it's pretty quiet in Bangkok right now and that's fairly late. Might just be you and the bartender.
I do know that the Narai has a joiner fee and I have no problem with that for an overnight guest. How do hotels handle a 2-3 hour massage/ST visit? Same fee? No fee?Narai might have a "go to" massage shop that delivers. They usually get a cut from the rate. Just ask someone who looks like they're smart (and speaks your language). Most of the time they just take the visiting MP's id card before escorting her to your room (maybe). I've had good luck with late night delivery from Sabai Sabai Massage on Sukhumvit Soi 11. Not sure if a girl will come over to Silom from Suk, but usually the traffic is not too bad at 2am. Things are very slow right now and money is money. A delivery oil massage will cost about 1000 baht for the shop and the girl will ask for the moon and settle for 1500-2000 for FS.
Other than those questions, I think I have a fairly good idea of where I want to play on this trip. SOL, Annies, Eden and a few others are definitely on the short list. Of course Patpong will be my home turf (walking distance) but the skyway looks pretty easy to use to get to the other playgrounds.Hey, SOL...you could go there right off the bat on the first night. The BTS has easy access to Nana and Soi Cowboy (Asoke Station). You can walk to Chong Nonsi station from Narai Hotel in 5 minutes or take a motorbike taxi in one. You'll want to return in a taxi if you pull a girl at Cowboy or Nana and plan on Narai for the night. Might be better to use a short term hotel near the mongering areas as you might not want the girl all night the first time. A lot of them will only go ST anyway. PB Hotel, anyone? I'd be careful about pulling girls from Patpong, (trust me, I know this first hand).
Hopefully I won't be too much of an easy mark, even as a newbee. I consider myself an experienced traveler and not a casual tourist. I hang out in some pretty hard-core parts of places like Jamaica and have a pretty good bullcarp radar. It seems like it's the same dance, but with different music.If you a middle-aged white farang you'll be invisible. ;) Just know that there are as many scams as there are people in Bangkok. If someone talks to you first, there's probably a scam coming. People in Bangkok can seem very sincere sometimes..."welcome, you hansum man...
Of course the little head has a mind of it's own and it can be very persuasive. Fortunately, the big head only consumes water or diet coke while on the prowl so situational awareness won't be compromised.Thai girls are masters at persuasion, so keep your antennae up. With luck you might find a nice one, but (with your wish list) it doesn't sound like you're looking for a GFE.
I will post reports of my adventures as they happen.Yeah, it will interesting to hear what you do and what comes about!
Just divorced & back to mongering heading to Thailand next week have not been for several years is majestic hotel or majestic suites in Sukumvitt Gf also any recommendations for happy hour and or new clubs.
Do not take rides in tuk tuks unless just for joyride, and only take taxis that will turn the meter on before you get in and close the door.
I second that. I usually ask "pai XXX dai mai?" before i get in. If they agree I get in. If they don't turn on the meter within 5 seconds I get out. I very seldom have to get out, but I sometimes have to ask 3 or 4 taxis before I find one who will go where I want. Usually after asking 2 taxis I walk away from the waiting taxis and flag a moving one. These are usually OK to go wherever.
I saw a few pretty girls at some of the Patpong go-gos recently, but they're a hardened bunch. I'd be careful about pulling girls from these places.
Always be careful, yes. But to be honest I've found Nana way more hardened than Patpong; at least, in Patpong with some scouting among the sharks I usually find some sweet girl, either new or just not doll-face beautiful, if I care to look around.
i haven't seen this one mentioned .. in a hidden corner between sol and foodland there's mike's place, a bar with a pool table. bj (800) or fj (1500) on premises, same setup with curtained couches as [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. my girl agreed to 700 for bj.
You are long way from late night action. Can you change your hotel?
This is my first trip to Asia.
I arrive next Sat night at 11:40PM and I will be staying at the Narai on Silom. I expect to get there sometime after 1:00 AM. Will there be any action in that area at that time? Any possibility of finding a massage at that hour? Is everything open on Sundays?
I read that the bar at the Narai is open until 2am. If I am there before it closes, what are the chances of meeting a girl there, pro or non-pro?
I do know that the Narai has a joiner fee and I have no problem with that for an overnight guest. How do hotels handle a 2-3 hour massage/ST visit? Same fee? No fee?
pogo
. . . out the door by 1:15 if all goes to plannedPlanning to the minute 6 months+ in advance . . . wow!
Liverpool 78
06-08-09, 07:36
Ok guys. I am going to BKK end of this month for 3 nites. I have read through most of the post and I have been there once 2 years back. However I could never find any place that provides a whole day booking for girls like Danok/Haadyai. Maybe I was not thorough enough. I heard Annie's have it but let's just say I prefer a Models / SYTs. Any assistance will be deeply appreciated.
Asian Flava
06-08-09, 13:57
Just divorced & back to mongering heading to Thailand next week have not been for several years is majestic hotel or majestic suites in Sukumvitt Gf also any recommendations for happy hour and or new clubs.I've stayed at Majestic Suites and it is definitely GF and very close to the action. I've also stayed at Majestic Grande but didn't' bring anyone back. Seemed to be more families around but I would expect it to be safe. Citichic is also owned by same people and have stayed there several times and can report it is def GF as well.
Enjoy!
AF
You are long way from late night action. Can you change your hotel?Yes better you stay in sukhumvitc and enjoy the street life.
Patpong Close 2am but Sukhumvit Street life till ealy morning.
Hi,
Any feedback as to whether Le Fenix hotel or Royal President apartments (Suk soi 15) charge joiner fees or give any hassle with girls.
Thanks!
Bangkok Banger
06-08-09, 20:44
I am back in th US now, but I would just like to thank you guys who responded to my requests for info on BBFS girls.
I guess I batted 1000 again this trip, to use an old American baseball euphemism! In the 11 nights I was in BKK, I barebacked 14 girls--3 "old friends" who I'd first barebacked on previous trips--but 11 new girls! 13 were BBFSTC (cum-in-pussy), and one BBFS with pullout and CIM/facial. Venues included NEP Carousel, Carnival, Erotica, Rainbow 4, and Playskool, Soi Cowboy's Deja Vu, Tony's, Sheeba, SOL at Patpong, and one Nana parking lot street girl. Ages ranged between 18 and 40, and included big tits, little tits, spinners, MILFs, and even one very cute young, horny pregnant girl! Sawadi krap, girls--all of you! I just love Thailand!
I also explored the Grace Hotel area, but none of the African girls would agree to BBFS. (I ALWAYS negotiate up front--the "secret" behind my 1000 batting average! ) The Russian girls did not want to even give me the time of day--I think they must pretty much restrict their clientele to the Arab gentlemen!
If any of you guys want to trade more detailed intel on BBFS girls, venues and adventures in Thailand as well as the pursuit of bare-cock-accepting pussy in other areas of the world, including the US, please shoot me a PM!
Primo Bolan
06-08-09, 21:47
"I'd be careful about pulling girls from Patpong, (trust me, I know this first hand)."
Why? Speak to me!
PB
"I'd be careful about pulling girls from Patpong, (trust me, I know this first hand)." Why? Speak to me! PB
Money & pain!
Primo Bolan
06-08-09, 23:26
Oh, that old money and pain thing, Pat Pong Pain.
Member #3428
06-09-09, 00:37
Hi,
Any feedback as to whether Le Fenix hotel or Royal President apartments (Suk soi 15) charge joiner fees or give any hassle with girls.
Thanks!
Try to read the right forum, search the right forum, and ask in the right forum. There is a hotel thread.
But to answer you, Both hotels I've taken girls in no problem. You can find out more by going to the Bangkok Hotel Thread and searching these names.
Zerocoolbkk
06-09-09, 02:18
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
Zero
Originally Posted by Fon Tok
Do not take rides in tuk tuks unless just for joyride, and only take taxis that will turn the meter on before you get in and close the door..Sometimes you have be careful even with the taxi-meters. Last night I was in Patpong and asked the cab to take me to Nana Plaza. This guy immediately started to recommend massage parlors, but after I declined he told me that the ride will cost me 400 BTH when the same trip in the opposite direction costed me 100 BTH! I just said that's too expensive.The guy claimed that is the "midnight charge". The problem: It was 8:30 pm. So I just smiled and walked away. Be wary of the pink Taxi-meters that are parked outside the Patpong area as they are there only waiting for naive tourists.
I am currently in BKK and last night I made an explorartion to Patpong. Well, alot have change to the worse since my last visit in November. It starts in the Silom road, the road isn't crowdy and no stalls with faked goods, or DVD's on the way to Patpong 2. So, on the one hand side comfortable to walk, except of the many touts whose are still there.
In Patpong 2 and 1 the business is very slow. In Patpong 1 there are still the night market with stall, but less faked watches and more other stuff like decoration, T-Shirts what ever.
The GoGo's are really down now. Visit a few and left immediatly. Only a few and ugly girls inside. Had a beer in Kings Castle 1 and usually this Bar and KC 2 has the best girls, but this time there were not one pretty girl.
So, I left were early with the subway to Soi Cowboy.
I am currently in BKK and last night I made an explorartion to Patpong. Well, alot have change to the worse since my last visit in November. It starts in the Silom road, the road isn't crowdy and no stalls with faked goods, or DVD's on the way to Patpong 2. So, on the one hand side comfortable to walk, except of the many touts whose are still there.Monday night they don't have the full night market on Silom Rd.
In Patpong 2 and 1 the business is very slow. In Patpong 1 there are still the night market with stall, but less faked watches and more other stuff like decoration, T-Shirts what ever.Ever since the government "business cops" raid back in April, there's less fake goods to buy. Very few tourists around this time of year, and very few people coming to Thailand these days.
The GoGo's are really down now. Visit a few and left immediatly. Only a few and ugly girls inside. Had a beer in Kings Castle 1 and usually this Bar and KC 2 has the best girls, but this time there were not one pretty girl.One of my friends told me that a lot of girls are heading home to Isaan to help with rice-planting this year!
So, I left were early with the subway to Soi Cowboy.Smart move. Patpong is dead. Just old hags and ladyboys :eek:, and SOL, of course.
M P Lurker
06-09-09, 08:22
Sometimes you have be careful even with the taxi-meters. Last night I was in Patpong and asked the cab to take me to Nana Plaza. This guy immediately started to recommend massage parlors, but after I declined he told me that the ride will cost me 400 BTH when the same trip in the opposite direction costed me 100 BTH! I just said that's too expensive.The guy claimed that is the "midnight charge". The problem: It was 8:30 pm. So I just smiled and walked away. Be wary of the pink Taxi-meters that are parked outside the Patpong area as they are there only waiting for naive tourists.
Take a taxi that is driving by.
Old Thai Hand
06-09-09, 09:44
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
Zero
First block west of Nana soi 4 on Sukhumvit next to that big pub (forget the name) with bull outside. Caverta etc. is 350 B for 4 tablets. This is the best pharmacy to get anything in BKK cheap.
Try to read the right forum, search the right forum, and ask in the right forum. There is a hotel thread.
But to answer you, Both hotels I've taken girls in no problem. You can find out more by going to the Bangkok Hotel Thread and searching these names.Tansak,
My humble apologies. I knew there was a hotel forum but had remembered it above the blue line rather than below. In my haste, I didn't look. Your feedback is all the more appreciated as I have followed this forum for many years and well know what RTFF means.
Thanks once again.
I sure these girls are not all in love with Tansak but want a good time and a good fuck just like forum members do.
What's the big deal? They aren't going to leave the big sponsor unless find a better one.
A few girls don't need regular sex and can be faithful to a sponsor. But what percentage?
I think the big issue is that sponsors don't want to be supporting a girl's sponging Thai BF. Her immediate relatives is more than enough already.And don't forget the sick buffalo that never seems to die.
First block west of Nana soi 4 on Sukhumvit next to that big pub (forget the name) with bull outside. Caverta etc. is 350 B for 4 tablets. This is the best pharmacy to get anything in BKK cheap.
I think you mean Bully Pub and there are two drug stores in that block (essentially right next to each other). I think you mean the one closest to Bully Pub. But what's Caverta? I haven't heard of that (and I don't think you mean Kamagra).
GG
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
ZeroTry Sukhumvit Soi 11, 100 meters up, between Village Market and the bank. Private connects with India, (Pharma guy is a smart cookie.) Neighborhood locals all go here.
Kamagra, 300 Baht for four tab blister pack. Genuine Ajanta. Fresh; latest chemistry = no side effects. XLNT quality, always in stock. The guy turns over cases/week. Kamagra gel and Cialis available as well. Open Sunday
First block west of Nana soi 4 on Sukhumvit next to that big pub (forget the name) with bull outside. Caverta etc. Is 350 B for 4 tablets. This is the best pharmacy to get anything in BKK cheap. Caverta? Surely you jest OTH! Caverta is way DOA years ago with bad side effects. Nobody uses Caverta! You must be a lot younger than you look, heh. The name of the place you are referring to is "Bullys".
I am back in th US now, but I would just like to thank you guys who responded to my requests for info on BBFS girls.
I guess I batted 1000 again this trip, to use an old American baseball euphemism! In the 11 nights I was in BKK, I barebacked 14 girls--3 "old friends" who I'd first barebacked on previous trips--but 11 new girls! 13 were BBFSTC (cum-in-pussy), and one BBFS with pullout and CIM/facial. Venues included NEP Carousel, Carnival, Erotica, Rainbow 4, and Playskool, Soi Cowboy's Deja Vu, Tony's, Sheeba, SOL at Patpong, and one Nana parking lot street girl. Ages ranged between 18 and 40, and included big tits, little tits, spinners, MILFs, and even one very cute young, horny pregnant girl! Sawadi krap, girls--all of you! I just love Thailand!
I also explored the Grace Hotel area, but none of the African girls would agree to BBFS. (I ALWAYS negotiate up front--the "secret" behind my 1000 batting average! ) The Russian girls did not want to even give me the time of day--I think they must pretty much restrict their clientele to the Arab gentlemen!
If any of you guys want to trade more detailed intel on BBFS girls, venues and adventures in Thailand as well as the pursuit of bare-cock-accepting pussy in other areas of the world, including the US, please shoot me a PM!Reminds me of that character on Sesame Street who also counts everything. I suppose the baseball reference gives a clue - you're a stats nut.
I notice you didn't give a number for how many times you had to produce your little certificates of cleanliness and infertility, or of what percentage of girls were impressed by your papers.
One of my friends told me that a lot of girls are heading home to Isaan to help with rice-planting this year!
I doubt. I guess the better looking ones move to Soi Cowboy, or NEP, or foreign countries like Dubai, Singapore, HK and the like. Others might took a holiday or go Freelancing, or to Pattaya. One of my Freelance contacts is now in Pattaya.
I think you mean Bully Pub and there are two drug stores in that block (essentially right next to each other). I think you mean the one closest to Bully Pub. But what's Caverta? I haven't heard of that (and I don't think you mean Kamagra).
GG
Well, I Followed the advice of a guy who post in this thread about a drug store in Soi 11.
The prices were 300 Bhat for generic Viagra (Kamagra), or 400 of the same with fruit tasts (what a waste).
Generic Cialis (Apcalis) is 800 Bhat, what sounds much for me. I thought I got it once cheaper in Pattaya, but I might be wrong.
I were today in the Amsterdam Massage Parlour and there were a Money Change in the same building. They had by far the best rate from what I have seen. Euro where everywere along the usual bank change offices along Sukhumvit between 46,9 to 47,10 or so. At this money Changer in Amsterdam MP it was 47,6 for 100 and 500 Euro bank notes.
I were today in the Amsterdam Massage Parlour and there were a Money Change in the same building. They had by far the best rate from what I have seen. Euro where everywere along the usual bank change offices along Sukhumvit between 46,9 to 47,10 or so. At this money Changer in Amsterdam MP it was 47,6 for 100 and 500 Euro bank notes.
reasonable rate
these days the official rate swings between 48,1 to 47,49 as of now.
Depends also on the time of hte day and on what "official" rate you take into account.
Joe Nailer
06-09-09, 16:40
Well, I Followed the advice of a guy who post in this thread about a drug store in Soi 11.
The prices were 300 Bhat for generic Viagra (Kamagra), or 400 of the same with fruit tasts (what a waste).
Generic Cialis (Apcalis) is 800 Bhat, what sounds much for me. I thought I got it once cheaper in Pattaya, but I might be wrong.
My regular chemist when I 'm in BKK is near Suk soi 19. There is "Asia Books"? book store nearby. A box of Apcalis is 400B for 4 x 20mg. They may sell V or/and K as well.
Last weekend I was in BKK, and went to this place to buy some, there was a policeman inside, which I didn't realise until I had asked for it. I had to attenuate my voice, and asked the girl conscious of the fuzz listening in if I could buy it. She said no problemos. The reason for my behaviour is that I read a post somewhere in this forum that an old farang was caught by police when he was walking with a young thai gal. Police searched his bag and found V, which is I understand one of the prescription drugs in Thailand. He was obviouly an easy target as he was walking with a big "V" written on his forehead.
Take a taxi that is driving by.
Same advice is good for Soi Cowboy. The same drivers sit there night after night asking for ridiculous fares. You just walk past them to the street and wave a taxi down. Open the front door, "Livingstone's Lodge, Meter, Ok?" Next thing you know the meter is on, you, and hopefully a reasonably tasty tart, are inside the taxi and he's clueless as to where Livingstone's Lodge is. No worries, just sing him a tune of sukhumvit soi sam sip sam and you're off. Hopefully that is also where you wanted to go.
Ages ranged between 18 and 40, and included big tits, little tits, spinners, MILFs, and even one very cute young, horny pregnant girl! Sawadi krap, girls--all of you! I just love Thailand!
Ok, where did you find the pregnant girl?!!
I also explored the Grace Hotel area, but none of the African girls would agree to BBFS. (I ALWAYS negotiate up front--the "secret" behind my 1000 batting average! ) The Russian girls did not want to even give me the time of day--I think they must pretty much restrict their clientele to the Arab gentlemen!
I'm not interested in BB but am interested in your batting average. Did you find any/many TGs that said they wouldn't BB?
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
ZeroThe gel is about 100 THB apiece, sometimes 6x500THB after a bit of haggling. I normally use the pharmacy between the police box at the Nana corner and the Landmark hotel (between a bunch of tailor shops, can't miss it). No hassling, knowledgeable girls, never got a dud. Apcalis was 600THB per box (4 pills), but I'm not sure it worked that well. Caverta around 400 THB per 4 pills, but just gave me an headache.
Of all three, the gel is what work best for me. Can proudly stand 90' of attack by these inoocent flowers at the eden club, with little side effects.
reasonable rate
these days the official rate swings between 48,1 to 47,49 as of now.
Depends also on the time of hte day and on what "official" rate you take into account.
Well, since Monday the rate at the bank change boxes varies from 46,9 to 47,2 at best. The offical interchange rate between banks might be different.
Last Saturday I good a rate a the change box opposite Beergarden from over 48 Baht, but since then the rate lowers to around 47. The best rate since than were at said money changer at Amsterdam MP.
Thank you Joe Nailer, will try my luck there. I remembered that 800 Baht for Apcalis was way to high. So, lessons learned, buy that stuff at the drug store in Soi 19 and not Soi 11.
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
Zero
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
ZeroThe gel is about 100 THB apiece, sometimes 6x500THB after a bit of haggling. I normally use the pharmacy between the police box at the Nana corner and the Landmark hotel (between a bunch of tailor shops, can't miss it). No hassling, knowledgeable girls, never got a dud. Apcalis was 600THB per box (4 pills), but I'm not sure it worked that well. Caverta around 400 THB per 4 pills, but just gave me an headache.
Of all three, the gel is what work best for me. Can proudly stand 90' of attack by these inoocent flowers at the eden club, with little side effects.
Jason Tenn
06-09-09, 19:28
Day 3 and 4
Sunday was my first real full day here. Slept in just a little bit and met up with my friend from ISG for lunch and spent the day going around seeing the sights. We decided after a bit of hunting that we would go to Edens club and then do a bit of hunting. Prior to go to Edens, I had decided I would like to go around and see if I could find some European woman that I liked. After checking a few of the lower class places, we went to Rajah’s hotel (near Na Na hotel on Soi 4) and discovered where the real good looking women are. I settled in on one and decided to come back later. So, off to Eden we go. After arriving and viewing the line up, there were really no stunning women that I wanted to be with, but we had seen the line up and I felt committed, so I picked one and she picked a friend and off we went. Granted, I did not have a real good time (was not attracted to the girls), the service was ok and would have been much better if I was into it. My friend however had an excellent time. I think overall it’s a great place, but YMMV as with any other location. I couldn’t get the cute little European off my mind, so I went back to haggle with her pimp. I got to talk to her alone for a few minutes, she is a beautiful Russian / Kassicstan <sp mix, but really stood out in the crowd (They had 25 Russian and about 25 other women of other European origins, all hot). I arranged after much debate for 10, 000 baht and got to keep her until 10 am, which was around 11 hours. We had a great time, initially she thought I was a Russian man, but was very excited that I am American, or just as excited I was not Thai. She says all of the woman complain about the size of Thai men and how fast they get off, so the love when someone else comes and takes them out, so they actually get to cum during sex? I generally go out of my way to make my woman feel good, as I feel that gives the ultimate level of service, so we took things slow and romantically. She loves to kiss, infact she nearly sucked my tongue out of my throat, loved DATY, infact the only thing she was not into was anal. We went for about 6 hours, spend some time in the Jacuzzi and lounging around. I am young, in shape, and love sex, and she wore me out asking for more. There are ways to see her without having to pay directly for her from her pimp, if you want I can give you her number, but I expect you to tip her well, she is worth it?
Unfortunately, sometime previous that day I guess I picked up a bug, and spent the rest of the time after taking her back and all day Monday on in bed/on the toilet until Tuesday night. You really do not want the details there, but back to myself Tues evening and meet with my friend and we head out to Hi Class again. Stopped by a few other soapies, but once again they had the best choice and girls. I picked another girl this time, 214, who looked much better clothed then nude. She did ok service, but had bad breath which was a real turn off. Really thick bush though, so if that is your thing, she would be fun. It seems like she had recently had a baby, no breast milk, but stretch marks on her boobs and pretty fresh scar. Really not too bad for 1700 bhat plus 500 tip. About to go to bed and finish my recovery from my illness, hopefully my libido will be back to full force for tomorrow.
For those who have not been to BKK before, there are a lot of excellent pharmacies, and the people working there are practically doctors. You can describe your symptoms and they will give you the proper medication. And, you can get just about anything prescription there over the counter, such as Viagra if you might need it. They are all over the place, but there is a great one near Na Na hotel, just walk out the door, down to the main street, and turn left. It’s about 50 yards on the left.
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I were today in the Amsterdam Massage Parlour and there were a Money Change in the same building. They had by far the best rate from what I have seen. Euro where everywere along the usual bank change offices along Sukhumvit between 46,9 to 47,10 or so. At this money Changer in Amsterdam MP it was 47,6 for 100 and 500 Euro bank notes.It's the super rich money exchanger across from the central world in soi by the big C . Super rich is also one of the investor in Amsterdam. Always the rates in town
Member #3428
06-09-09, 23:08
I sure these girls are not all in love with Tansak but want a good time and a good fuck just like forum members do.
What's the big deal? They aren't going to leave the big sponsor unless find a better one.
A few girls don't need regular sex and can be faithful to a sponsor. But what percentage?
I think the big issue is that sponsors don't want to be supporting a girl's sponging Thai BF. Her immediate relatives is more than enough already.
Who is talking love :D Love and fucking rarely mix IMHO. Most girls I know are with a guy who can PAY them and take care of them and their family but most of the guys can't fuck them silly or are away for so long the girls need to get off once in a while. The girls call their sponsors jai dee and they care for them and will be with them but they don't LOVE them.
So they are married or sponsored by other guys and go other places to get a good screw when they can. In fact some known girls at MP's who left work are still sniffing around for a screw when their sponsors are footing the bill.
These girls surely do not LOVE me and most think I am a bastard but we click well together and they can get off with me. Half the time I get SMS's telling me I'm a bastard and they hate me and the other times I get SMS's asking if we can meet. So who am I to complain about this arrangement?
I love sponsors. Keep it up folks. :D
I also explored the Grace Hotel area, but none of the African girls would agree to BBFS. (I ALWAYS negotiate up front--the "secret" behind my 1000 batting average! ) The Russian girls did not want to even give me the time of day--I think they must pretty much restrict their clientele to the Arab gentlemen!The Mike's Hotel has a bunch of Russian girls upstairs, just walk in and ask for Russian girls and you will be led upstairs where there are Russian girls waiting in rooms. The hotel is opposite the Grace Hotel on Suk. soi 3 at the entrance of the Hospital.
Lord Farquard
06-10-09, 00:34
The gel is about 100 THB apiece, sometimes 6x500THB after a bit of haggling. I normally use the pharmacy between the police box at the Nana corner and the Landmark hotel (between a bunch of tailor shops, can't miss it). No hassling, knowledgeable girls, never got a dud. Apcalis was 600THB per box (4 pills), but I'm not sure it worked that well. Caverta around 400 THB per 4 pills, but just gave me an headache.
Of all three, the gel is what work best for me. Can proudly stand 90' of attack by these inoocent flowers at the eden club, with little side effects.
there is a pharmacy just past soi 11s that sell the gel 16 for 1000thb, that is the best price that i have found.
Bangkok Banger
06-10-09, 01:02
Guys,
Anyone know where to get Viagra or Kamagra in BKK?
Which pharmacy offers it without a prescription?
What is current price?
Cheers,
ZeroAny of the pharmacies between the JW Marriot and NEP on Thanon Sukummvit will have it. But do not pay the 2000 Baht for the name brand 4-pack! The 300 Baht/4 pack generic from India is exactly the same stuff, just as safe, and it works just fine!
Bangkok Banger
06-10-09, 01:22
Reminds me of that character on Sesame Street who also counts everything. I suppose the baseball reference gives a clue - you're a stats nut.
I notice you didn't give a number for how many times you had to produce your little certificates of cleanliness and infertility, or of what percentage of girls were impressed by your papers.Actually, I used to keep much better records than I do now--but after I attained my goal, a while back, of shooting my jizz into the twat of my 100th cum-in-pussy-compliant prostitute, I started getting a little sloppy with the record-keeping!
But, in answer to your query: With three of them, HIV negative papers were needed. In one case, in a Nana bar, the girl was very new and understood almost no English--so she showed the papers to one of the mamasans, who approved it! So, I barfined her, and off we went. About 30 minutes later, off I went--in her pussy, of course! ;)
Bangkok Banger
06-10-09, 01:44
Ok, where did you find the pregnant girl?!!
I'm not interested in BB but am interested in your batting average. Did you find any/many TGs that said they wouldn't BB?I had some computer glitches, so this might be a double post--if so, please excuse!
Based on the fact that on several nights, I "interviewed" at least one girl who declined to provide BBFS, I would estimate that about 60% of those I talked to were up for it. On many nights, the first girl I talked to was cool with it, so I looked no further! On the two nights that I did two girls (seperately--from different bars), they were the only ones I had talked to.
I found the pregnant girl in the Nana parking lot, about 2:30 AM. 1000 Baht, plus I tipped her 200 Baht for being such a sweetie and allowing me to get creampie pics, which I'll share with anyone who can convince me is "friend" rather than "foe"! ;)
there is a pharmacy just past soi 11s that sell the gel 16 for 1000thb, that is the best price that i have found.The place at Suk Soi 11 next to Village Market sells the Kamagra gel packs for 60 Baht each, no multiples required. Again, latest chemistry (May2009) makes for no next day side effects whatsoever. Also, the new "Hologram" Apcalis should be no more than 600 Baht.
Hello brethren!
This is just a Hello, of sorts to the regulars who banter on this board, and a thank you for the practical advice. I just posted on the Pattaya board about my first trip there (I'm going to DisneyWorld! ), but for the rest of the time I'm in BKK, the same offer applies. I would willingly spring for a round or two at afine recommended local establishment. Don't worry, I'm not some desperate, clueless noob looking to follow someone around. I've been to Thailand several times, and I'm just content to meet up and shoot the sh! T for a while.
I'm actually hoping the vibe will be a little different this time around in BKK, for someone who is more melaninly inclined. I'm Canadian, but of mixed East Indian/African origin. So to Thais I'm labeled a "kek", and it's a completely different story compared to you "farangs". I joke with my white friends when we've travelled together that they legitimize me. With some pretty good results. That being said, I'm not on a sex mission, I'd like to take in the scene sure, but a run on the bars with the boys wouldn't be so bad. And I got some old friends, who got some friends, and so it goes.
If y'all gentlemen are so disposed, I'm open to suggestions as to time and place to meet. Apologies to Jackson, I let my subscription lapse, been on lockdown for a while here in Korea. But for the viewing public, reports will follow. My stated ambitions for this trip, aside from Pattaya:
1) Becoming a recreational Viagra user and going to Eden Club for the first time (! ). Perfect timing on that one, given the topic of conversation.
2) Being allowed in Rainbow 2/Nana disco without being acosted and being forced to use my charm to get in.
3) Actually getting one of the gogo girls in one of the nicer bars to sit with me when I send a request, rather than ignore and head for the nearest Japanese business person.
PS. Even after reading the forum, and seeing frequent mention of both Eden and SOL, I still have no idea WHERE the heck these places are. Everyone talks about them, but anyone mind giving a brief, simple explanation?
Thanks again for the accumulated wisdom of these pages.
It's the super rich money exchanger across from the central world in soi by the big C . Super rich is also one of the investor in Amsterdam. Always the rates in town
Yes you are right, it was Super Rich, I just had forget the name of the money changer. The one at big C opposite Central World is even closer to me, so next time I will head there.
The place at Suk Soi 11 next to Village Market sells the Kamagra gel packs for 60 Baht each, no multiples required. Again, latest chemistry (May2009) makes for no next day side effects whatsoever. Also, the new "Hologram" Apcalis should be no more than 600 Baht.
No, they charge 800 Baht for the Apcalis now. So, I will try the one recommended in Soi 19 today and will post about the result later.
Ok, I seldom read some FR about Spasso. In fact I did not read a single one. Yesterday night I decided to go to new venues. So, first I tried the Tunnel disco in Soi lang Suan, it's between Conrad and Hyatt Grand Erwan Hotel.
The place were almost empty at about 1 o'clock, so I didn't went in. The Taxi in which I arrived was waiting at the entrance and so I went to Spasso the first time. It's in the first floor of the Hyatt Grand Erawan Hotel.
I's more like a pub than a disco and has no entrance fee. But, prices are quite high. The charge 250 Baht for San Miquel + Plus Tax + Service charge which made the real price about 330 Baht.
There was a band playing in Spassos and the place were packed. The crowed were Western people and Thai Freelancer. I couldn't see Russian or Middle Eastern hookers, like in CM2 in the Basement of the Novotel.
The Thai Freelancer where Top Nooch. Really very nice looking women over there. Unlike Thermae where you can find teenage looking stunners (unfortunatelly they seems more into Asian customer), in Spassos you can find classy stunner.
I got alot approach from them, even from some who looked really like they are super rich. Well, I came with a nice shirt an proper shoes and jeans. They have a dress code, so with shorts and flip flops you might get no access to the place.
Well, spoke with some of the girls there. Didn't negociate the price, since I didn't want to take such a girl back to my Hotel. I am currently in the Majestic Suits Hotel, which is for my long stay (2 months) the right deal. Well, saw a nice looking Hotel near Soi 10 which is called paradiso. I will check out the place if it's a good deal. If it's so, than I will move in later on that trip.
But, back to Spasso. They close at 2 am and so I went out alone. Though I could go with one girl to another disco, didn't understand the name and could continue drinking with another girl who stayed in the Hyatt Hotel for Holiday. She told me that she left the next day for Chang Mai. Well, I thought both options could cost me alot of money and I decide better to skip that offers and head to Spicy.
Outside the Hyatt Hotel were some girls waiting. The one who approach me, was very pretty. I would rate her as a 8+ or even a 9. But, for that I would need to see her body much better, since she was sitting I couldn't see good enough. She had a very good nose job and was in a very good shape. She told me that she is 30 yo, but looked like 20. Anyway she was a bit desperate. Told me that she has no money and no customer. So, I asked how much she charged. She told me last time she got 5000 Baht LT. Well of course I could haggle her down to 3000 I think, but I thought the girl is used to stay with people in the Hyatt Hotel, Sheraton and the like and so she will be a bit spoiled.
Well, to keep my face I asked her if I can do her anal. She said no, she never did, so I replyed that I just take girls who can do that. I wished her good luck and left for Spicy. In the end the not so spoiled girls are better if you are not willing to pay serious money.
In the Spice club I took a girl who really looked like Bai Ling the Chinese Actress. She was great fun, spoke very good English, were quite clever and very sweet and affectionate. Had really a good time with her. I didn't made a photo from her, but she has a quite pretty face (just like bai ling) and she is quite tall. About 170 cm and very thin, I would say even skinny. I like more the curvy girls, but this girl were cute and lovely, which made the session remarkable. She usually works in Gulliver's but is somebody likes her telefon no just send me a PM.
No, they charge 800 Baht for the Apcalis now. So, I will try the one recommended in Soi 19 today and will post about the result later.Noted. Will check with my pharma buddy there next week. If you go there again (the one on Soi 11 next to Village Market) make sure you talk to the guy at the far right of the counter, the one sitting at the computer all the time, he's the owner. I've been going to him long before he expanded the business up to this shop, and even that's been quite a while. Lots of other guys in that immediate vicinity go to him too, I guess he has become a local icon.
So, I'll check with him when I get there again, but I do know that the NEW Hologram pack Cialis is supposed to be pretty hot stuff, maybe that's why the raise in price. He works purely by percentages on the prices that he gets wholesale from India.
Thx DG69
we went to Rajah’s hotel (near Na Na hotel on Soi 4) and discovered where the real good looking women are. I settled in on one and decided to come back later. I couldn’t get the cute little European off my mind, so I went back to haggle with her pimp. I got to talk to her alone for a few minutes, she is a beautiful Russian / Kassicstan <sp mix, but really stood out in the crowd (They had 25 Russian and about 25 other women of other European origins, all hot). She loves to kiss, infact she nearly sucked my tongue out of my throat, loved DATY, infact the only thing she was not into was anal. We went for about 6 hours, spend some time in the Jacuzzi and lounging around. I am young, in shape, and love sex, and she wore me out asking for more. There are ways to see her without having to pay directly for her from her pimp, if you want I can give you her number, but I expect you to tip her well, she is worth it? Hi Jason Tenn,
Did you meet this girl inside the Rajah hotel or did you find her
in a bar/club around the area there ?
By the way... real pity you took only one picture.
Cheers!
I were in the drug store on soi19 or better to say it's not in Soi 19 but on Sukhumvit between Soi 19 and Soi 17. To be more precisly right after Thermae in direction to Nana.
The drug store is really great. Friendly and helpful staff and the best prices at all.
Apcalis is 400 Baht (4 pills). I use a half pill a day, so last 8 days. They have also generic propecia, which I usually only got in Brazil. I mean the generic propecia.
If somebody don't know what this is, it's a pill which prevents that you lost your hair. I use it since I am 29 and I am now 39 and still have my full hair. I guess otherwise I would been alread bold.
Lord Farquard
06-10-09, 12:30
I were in the drug store on soi19 or better to say it's not in Soi 19 but on Sukhumvit between Soi 19 and Soi 17. To be more precisly right after Thermae in direction to Nana.
The drug store is really great. Friendly and helpful staff and the best prices at all.
Apcalis is 400 Baht (4 pills). I use a half pill a day, so last 8 days. They have also generic propecia, which I usually only got in Brazil. I mean the generic propecia.
If somebody don't know what this is, it's a pill which prevents that you lost your hair. I use it since I am 29 and I am now 39 and still have my full hair. I guess otherwise I would been alread bold.
If that is the one with the dog wandering around inside I have been very happy with their service. :)
If that is the one with the dog wandering around inside I have been very happy with their service. :)
Can remember a dog, but anyway, it's the best drug store which I have seen in Thailand until now. Before I was happy with Siam Drug in Patpong Soi 2, but that has closed since about one year. In that drug store between soi 17 and 19 Sukhumvit the prices are much better.
Well, to keep my face I asked her if I can do her anal. She said no, she never did, so I replyed that I just take girls who can do that. I wished her good luck and left for Spicy.
LOL !!!
Absolutely superb DG69 ! Quality. Quality. Quality !
It's a long time since I've read something which made me smile so much.
Keep posting, and enjoy your time in Bangers,
Kens.
Jason Tenn
06-10-09, 13:53
I found the pregnant girl in the Nana parking lot, about 2:30 AM. 1000 Baht, plus I tipped her 200 Baht for being such a sweetie and allowing me to get creampie pics, which I'll share with anyone who can convince me is "friend" rather than "foe"! ;)I either saw her, or another fairly along pregnant girl near Na Na the other night. Was not on the parking lot directly, but on the way to the Sky Train just a few feet away from the plaza where a lot of the free lancers hang out. Very pretty, think I might have to give her a try out :)
Outside the Hyatt Hotel were some girls waiting. The one who approach me, was very pretty. I would rate her as a 8+ or even a 9. But, for that I would need to see her body much better, since she was sitting I couldn't see good enough. She had a very good nose job and was in a very good shape. She told me that she is 30 yo, but looked like 20. Anyway she was a bit desperate. Told me that she has no money and no customer. .Bangkok is really empty at the moment. Lots of girls complaining, whether they work in massage or freelance or bar there is a serious lack of customers.
Which of course means they will all be borrowing money on the dream that in 2 months it will all get better.
Which means that in about 3 months there is really going to be a mess, with so many girls and women in debt up to their eyeballs and desperate for cash.
I must say that things are now getting worse in Bangkok, more beggers about than usual, getting accosted by pretty darn ugly freelancers all over the place. I can see violent attacks and rip off's are going to get worse and worse as time rolls on.
Even the "Jap only" girls in Thermae are now open to foreigners, shocking is it not.
I were in the drug store on soi19 or better to say it's not in Soi 19 but on Sukhumvit between Soi 19 and Soi 17. To be more precisly right after Thermae in direction to Nana.
Just a correction. Thermae is between Soi 15 and 13 towards Nana, not the other way.
Hello brethren!
Returning to BKK this week, and just sending a Hello, of sorts to the regulars who banter on this board, and a thank you for the practical advice. I posted on the Pattaya board that I'm going to be there this weekend, Saturday-Monday, and would willingly spring for a round or two. Same deal applies for the rest of my time in BKK. As I said on the Pattaya board, don't worry, I'm not some desperate, clueless noob looking to follow someone around. I'm just content to meet up and shoot the sh! T for a while.
I've been to Thailand several times and yet (amazingly! ) this is my first trip to Pattaya! I'm actually hoping the vibe will be a little different from the scene in BKK, for someone who is more melaninly inclined. I'm Canadian, but of mixed East Indian/African origin. So to Thais I'm labeled a "kek", and it's a completely different story compared to you "farangs". I joke with my white friends when we've travelled together that they legitimize me. With some pretty good results. That being said, I'm not on a sex mission, I'd like to take in the scene sure, but a run on the bars with the boys wouldn't be so bad.
If y'all gentlemen are so disposed, I'm open to suggestions as to time and place to meet. Apologies to Jackson, I let my subscription lapse, been on lockdown for a while here in Korea. But now I am newly subscribed, so I might be sending out some PMs soon.
My stated ambitions for this trip:
1) Becoming a recreational Viagra user. The current discussion was a windfall, thank you for the tips.
2) Taking advantage of the benefits of my new drug habit at Eden Club (never been).
3) Being allowed into fine establishments such as Rainbow 2 in NEP, or the Nana Hotel Disco, without having to resort to my charm and North American accent.
4) Actually being able to sit and talk with a girl of choice in said establishments.
5) Reuniting with some "oldies but goodies", and finding some new friends (my new hero is the guy who kept a tally of his BBBA. Bareback batting average. Might be PMing him soon.)
For the viewing public, reports will follow. But like I said, anyone wanting to meet up either in Pattaya or BKK, I'd like to hear from you. Thanks again for the accumulated wisdom of these pages.
Jason Tenn
06-10-09, 22:11
Hello,
I hope you have a great trip! I was not impressed with my visit to Eden, in fact I almost took them up on the "if you do not enjoy the service its free" clause. But, my friend had the best time he has had there. I just saw nothing that I really enjoyed in the line up and was under the impression I had to pick something, which was a bad start. We got there around 8pm, and they said they were not overly busy. Only 3 on the left of the line, about 15 to the right side. I would say all closer to 30 than 20 if not slightly older, most in the 5-7 looks category. Now, the service was ok, I did not get CIM which was annoying as its clearly on the menu.
So, what I am saying is, YMMV. Go try it, you might love it! I thought I would too, just was not my cup of tea.
Nail The World
06-11-09, 00:12
Hello brethren! Hope you have a good time.
Two years ago I had my first mongering mission to Thailand which will also be my last. I am an East Indian origin guy based in California. It was an utterly disgusting experience. And I agree that part of the blame, a significant part I might say, is due to the behavior of "mongers" from that area. Whatever be the cause I found the situation to be irreparable.
So this year my mission is to Saigon. First time there, not sure what kind of reputation Indian brethren have built over there, taking a chance. If I find the situation to be like anywhere close to what it is in Thailand, I will run back immediately.
My mission starts today. By a stroke of luck it's going to start from Bangkok! Tonight I will be in Bangkok before moving to Saigon tomorrow. I am going to be there (if the situation is right) for about 2-3 months. That's a lot of business some Thai pussy has lost. They had their chance.
Thailand, for me, never again. Even then, it is, for tonight. But it's only a stopover. I will screw one or two pussies for sure because at the end of the day they are hookers and I am a John. I should be able to find "someone" with senses but it won't bother me if I couldn't.
Thailand is a lost cause. I don't intend to fight this fight. It's not mine. I will go where pussies are.
BKK Dreaming
06-11-09, 00:35
I either saw her, or another fairly along pregnant girl near Na Na the other night. Was not on the parking lot directly, but on the way to the Sky Train just a few feet away from the plaza where a lot of the free lancers hang out. Very pretty, think I might have to give her a try out :)
If she is who I think you are talking about she was at Nana parking lot middle of May also ,
I had talked to her before she got knocked up , her english is pretty good since she lived with a Brit before,
Glad she found a customer , she is a nice girl
BK
Old Thai Hand
06-11-09, 03:29
I'm Canadian, but of mixed East Indian/African origin. So to Thais I'm labeled a "kek", and it's a completely different story compared to you "farangs". I joke with my white friends when we've travelled together that they legitimize me. With some pretty good results. That being said, I'm not on a sex mission, I'd like to take in the scene sure, but a run on the bars with the boys wouldn't be so bad.
I should post this in the "Racism" thread. But, you may not read it. Your experiences as a "kaek" are a good example of the Thais not being able to see past the ends of their noses. A good many of them are at least as dark, and have features quite similar to those they describe as "kaek", not least because many, unbeknownst to them have some Indian blood flowing through their veins from centuries of intimate cross-cultural interchange. Therefore, I always find it disturbing and amusing all at the same time that this particular prejudice persists.
I've attached a pic from today's Nation of the Deputy Prime Minister (left) meeting the C-in-C of the army (right). Both of these gentlemen of HiSo status could easily be mistaken for "kaek", especially the deputy PM. Yet, somehow I doubt that either would have problems entering any establishment or garnering the girl of their choice.
Oh well, TIT.
Just a correction. Thermae is between Soi 15 and 13 towards Nana, not the other way.
Well, than I must have missed Soi 17. Soi 19 is right after Robinson Mall (with the McDonalds in the ground floor) coming from Nana and from Robinson Mall I headed towards Nana and after a view metre I past Thermae and as far I remember there were no other Soi between Robinson and Thermae.
Edit: Checked today again. Well the Drug Store is between Thermae and Robinson Mall. Between those is a small death end street, which looks like the way to Robinson Park House, but must be than Soi 17.
Bangkok is really empty at the moment. Lots of girls complaining, whether they work in massage or freelance or bar there is a serious lack of customers.
Even the "Jap only" girls in Thermae are now open to foreigners, shocking is it not.
For Patpong it's absolutely right, but the good places have still customer. In Nana the most GoGos have reduced their Staff, inho and the most GoGos are almost empty. Good ones still have some life sign's like the Rainbow group, Mandarin and Mercury. But, of course not as full as in high season. In Cowboy I will only visit three bars now, Tilac (which is still very crowdy, difficult to get a seat there), Shark and Ex Long Gun.
The rest of the bars have only a few girls and few customer. The after hour places like Spice Club and Spicy are still full. Spicy especially since many of the expat sons, or foreign students go there.
I can't say that I saw more beggars like in November, also I did not see any violence or Thermae stunner with Farangs. I guess it would be a losing of face for a Thermae stunner to go with a Farang. It seems that there is a competition between the girls, just to go with Asian guys and the ones whose go with Farangs are not more playing in the first league. Only the older Hooker in Thermae approaches Farangs.
Well, for somebody who is happy with the average looking girls is now a good time. The pretty ones are now easier to approach, but they have still high prices.
Example: I were in Sharks yesterday when they closed at 1:40 pm. Before the most stunning one whose were still in the club made eye contact with me and came over after her dance round. She talked with me for a while didn't ask for a drink. I wasn't sure if I should barfine her, since it was late and I was planing to pick up a freelancer in Spice Club. So, I thought I could ask for the price and see if it's Ok. She told me she wants 3000 LT. I asked her for ST and she said 2000. Seems high to me, so I thought OK if she allows me do fuck her arse I will do. I asked if she do Anal and I could see that she was shocked. Damn this time no luck with that, last November I had no problems to find girls whose into that.
Ok, her next dance round started and so other girls came over and tried to cut a lady drink out of me. Suddenly the lights go on and the music off. The bar closed. The stunner came down from the stage and came back to my seat to talk. We talked a while and I got the impression that she wants me to wait outside for her. So, I asked her if I should wait outside for her. She seemed interested. But, still wouldn't do Anal. So, I thought OK, you do not want Anal, but than you have to go down with the price to 1500 ST.
So, I asked her if she go for 1500 ST. She hesitated and said that she never before went with customer for such a low price. I guess there is still a limit which is hard for a girl to cross, since she would lose confidence. I could easily convince her that I have to sacrifice, sleeping with her without doing her ass, so she has to sacrifice on the price, but I did not. God knows why. I guess I was just not in the mood.
I should post this in the "Racism" thread. But, you may not read it. Your experiences as a "kaek" are a good example of the Thais not being able to see past the ends of their noses. A good many of them are at least as dark, and have features quite similar to those they describe as "kaek", not least because many, unbeknownst to them have some Indian blood flowing through their veins from centuries of intimate cross-cultural interchange. Therefore, I always find it disturbing and amusing all at the same time that this particular prejudice persists.
I've attached a pic from today's Nation of the Deputy Prime Minister (left) meeting the C-in-C of the army (right). Both of these gentlemen of HiSo status could easily be mistaken for "kaek", especially the deputy PM. Yet, somehow I doubt that either would have problems entering any establishment or garnering the girl of their choice.
Oh well, TIT.Dude, it is the GreeN that Thai people trust, despite you are green or purple. I am brown but i think we all have our fair of pie here :)
My humble 2 balls.
I hear from many girls not only in Thailand, but also neighboring countries, that business is very low and customers are staying away. Stunners with experience in the business are still doing OK thanks to their regulars, but for the majority of the girls, times are really hard and they all worry about not earning enough to pay for their rent and food (not to speak of continuing to support their family). I always think, that in times like these, it is also our responsibility to support the ones, that have given us such a good time in the past, by continuing to pay normal prices or giving good tips. I know that this is against all market laws, but I am strongly against misusing the current situation for lowering prices below what we were willing to pay before for a good time.
I am only a very rare visitor to Bangkok and certainly do not want to give advice to all of you locals here, but I would nevertheless like to inform you about what a lot of my fellows in the Beijing forum did during the months before Olympic Games last year. At that time, the Chinese government was cleaning up the entire capital, leading to a massive crack-down of all our favorite venues and forcing many of our favorite providers either back home or going underground. Those amongst you familiar with the Beijing scene will know, that one of the Beijing specialties are the Mongolian girls, which are great providers and usually go to great lengths to really satisfy their customers - both in and outside of the bed. For those Mongolians who decided to endure the difficult times until after the Olympics, many of my fellow mongers set up a kind of supporting network, by either establishing contacts amongst fellow mongerers or adopting girls for the time, that they were without sufficient income.
The current situation is of course very different to what happened in Beijing last year, and I am certainly not suggesting that we should all adopt a local girl here. But just think of it next time, when you negotiate with a girl or pay a tip. We all know that they have not chosen this job out of passion and that they depend on our money, so let's not make their life even harder and pay them back a bit for all the pleasure that they have given us in the past.
Hope you have a good time.
Two years ago I had my first mongering mission to Thailand which will also be my last.
So this year my mission is to Saigon. First time there, not sure what kind of reputation Indian brethren have built over there, taking a chance.
NTW, sorry to hear that you had a bad time in LOS, I'm surprised that it wasn't good for you, most of the girls rate money & attitude as much more important than any other factor.
Best of luck in Saigon ! In my experience it's very difficult there - it certainly is not BKK. You may find that the problem in Nam is not ethnicity, but nationality....,
Kens
The current situation is of course very different to what happened in Beijing last year, and I am certainly not suggesting that we should all adopt a local girl here. But just think of it next time, when you negotiate with a girl or pay a tip. We all know that they have not chosen this job out of passion and that they depend on our money, so let's not make their life even harder and pay them back a bit for all the pleasure that they have given us in the past.
Well, Hendrik with all due respect, but I think you are wrong in your thoughts.
First of all the girls working in the p4p business have indeed choose that job, since it's not a big deal for them and it brings more money with less effort than the work in a textil factory, or on a rice field. Believe me there are enough part time hooker who have at daytime a normal job, even a office job.
Beside that you are right I am also full of compassion especially when I see the not so pretty girls in the p4p business whose have almost no customer. But, coming back to the prices, I don't think that they are low. 2000 or even 1000 for ST is 40 to 20 Euro and for that money I can have a ST even in Frankfurt with an Eastern European Hooker. I have 2 or 3 regulars in the Frankfurt brothels whose look real good (one from the Dominican Island, one from Turkey and one from Bulgaria) who do it for 25 Euro to 30 Euro. The Bulgarian even do anal and the girl from the Dominican Island DFK. And all are at least 7 to 8, much better looking than most of the Bargirls, which is not difficult.
So, I think the prices are still high and I think that the policy of tipping and overpaying will lead in less business for the Thai tourist industrie. Since people tend to go than in cheaper destinations. Imho, tipping and overpaying is not good, though I have to admit that I also use to tip, but with sense and not tipping 1000 Bhat for a girl whose provide a good service in a MP.
Professor 1
06-11-09, 14:00
I am strongly against misusing the current situation for lowering prices below what we were willing to pay before for a good time.
I pay what the market bears. These same capitalists with the ever-present smile will cut neither you nor me a break when the market favors them, or when you or I am short a few baht. I remember a Nana girl who declined what I knew was a good offer for ST. I watched her for an hour. I took her friend, and guess who comes trolling back to me the next day for my previous offer. I DECLINED, and asked for her friend.
We all know that they have not chosen this job out of passion and that they depend on our money, so let's not make their life even harder and pay them back a bit for all the pleasure that they have given us in the past.
Well, they can choose to take a job that makes less money, requires their families to support themselves, and keep their dignity. I offer this example: I can get an academic appointment at a top-tier U.S. university, kill myself with a nasty publication schedule, and reap the money and prestige that goes along with it. Alternatively, I can take an appointment at a lesser school, teach (which is what I enjoy) rather than write, and make less money but have a fuller life.
Life requires choices. If one really feels for the life of these girls, give them the money and decline to sleep with them. Some do.
Gaienmae08
06-11-09, 20:53
Try Sukhumvit Soi 11, 100 meters up, between Village Market and the bank. Private connects with India, (Pharma guy is a smart cookie.) Neighborhood locals all go here.
Kamagra, 300 Baht for four tab blister pack. Genuine Ajanta. Fresh; latest chemistry = no side effects. XLNT quality, always in stock. The guy turns over cases/week. Kamagra gel and Cialis available as well. Open Sunday
For anyone else looking for this place (assuming I found the same one), it's on the right-hand side of the soi beyond *Villa* supermarket at the entrance to a small shopping mall kind of setup.
Kamagra gel in individual packs @100 baht.
Redfield10
06-12-09, 00:24
Well. You will find Saigon much more difficult.
Also, you need to teach your own to "behave." Last year I met an east Indian guy from California who wanted to hit a freelance place with me so I hung out with him. He treated the girls like total Shit!
He was so rude and bad with them that they made fun of him and called Hi Ali Baba! He totally deserved it and when he left the girls told me "that's why we don't like Indians!"
Hope you have a good time.
Two years ago I had my first mongering mission to Thailand which will also be my last. I am an East Indian origin guy based in California. It was an utterly disgusting experience. And I agree that part of the blame, a significant part I might say, is due to the behavior of "mongers" from that area. Whatever be the cause I found the situation to be irreparable.
So this year my mission is to Saigon. First time there, not sure what kind of reputation Indian brethren have built over there, taking a chance. If I find the situation to be like anywhere close to what it is in Thailand, I will run back immediately.
My mission starts today. By a stroke of luck it's going to start from Bangkok! Tonight I will be in Bangkok before moving to Saigon tomorrow. I am going to be there (if the situation is right) for about 2-3 months. That's a lot of business some Thai pussy has lost. They had their chance.
Thailand, for me, never again. Even then, it is, for tonight. But it's only a stopover. I will screw one or two pussies for sure because at the end of the day they are hookers and I am a John. I should be able to find "someone" with senses but it won't bother me if I couldn't.
Thailand is a lost cause. I don't intend to fight this fight. It's not mine. I will go where pussies are.
I were in the drug store on soi19 or better to say it's not in Soi 19 but on Sukhumvit between Soi 19 and Soi 17.KS Pharmacy, maybe? My favorite in Bangkok. The young guy who runs it is very knowledgeable and helpful.
Bangkok Xx Bob
06-12-09, 03:50
What is Ajanta?
I'll second it. Have been buying all my needs there from him for years now. Very knowledgeable, helpful and polite. Same can be said to his lovely wife that helps him
KS Pharmacy, maybe? My favorite in Bangkok. The young guy who runs it is very knowledgeable and helpful.
KS Pharmacy, maybe? My favorite in Bangkok. The young guy who runs it is very knowledgeable and helpful.
Might be. I didn't read the name of the Pharmacy, it looks like all the other little drug stores around. Inside are at least one quite pretty girl and another girl and a guy. When I were there, there were also a older Indian looking guy sitting on customer side. Seems that he spend all the days there and chat with the nice looking girl. Maybe he is the boss.
He totally deserved it and when he left the girls told me "that's why we don't like Indians!"
I worked some times with Indians and when I were Shift Leader in an Saudi Arabian Power Plant I dealt alot with Indians. Also, in the whole gulf reagion you will have to deal with Indians. The Saudis are also annoyed by the arrogance of the better situated Indians, though I have to admit that the Saudis threat the Indians often like shit as well.
Anyway I think that the Arabs are more gentle as the the upper class Indians. The lower class Indians might be different, but the upper class Indians and those from the higher castes such like Brahmas, are use to be arrogant and rude and that are the people you meet usually as tourists in foreign countries.
The Mike's Hotel has a bunch of Russian girls upstairs, just walk in and ask for Russian girls and you will be led upstairs where there are Russian girls waiting in rooms. The hotel is opposite the Grace Hotel on Suk. soi 3 at the entrance of the Hospital.Can you tell more about this place. I mean service and of course price too.
Thanks in advance.
A very wealthy Indian friend of mine, who lives in Dubai, invited me to an indian wedding that took place in Bali. I have never seen such a tasteless flaunting of wealth.
In any event, I was asked to take the boys out for the batchelor party. We are in a club, around 1.30 AM, and my friend exchanges words with a local, and 2 minutes later, the local guy has broken a glass, and slashed my friend's face. blood everywhere, etc.
We jump on motorbikes and head to the nearest emergency room. Nice doctor is ready to sew him up, but I ask if we are better off finding a plastic surgeon, since it is his cheek and lip. We then head off to the plastic surgery place, where we wait. Meantime, his parents, who were also there for the wedding, have been dragged out of bed, and arrive. I am there with their son, I hauled him out of the bar, I drove him around, and even though he is worth 20x what I am worth, he didnt have any money on him, so I had to pay the first doctor. (To this day, he has not paid me back).
Point to my story is, when the parents arrive, they dont even look at me at first, then give me accusatory looks, like it is my fault their poor little baby (35 years old) got his face cut up in a bar. When they started asking me why I took their son to that bar, I reminded them I met him there, and he is the one who wanted to go there. Of course, they didn't believe me.
Their arrogance was such as I have never seen before.
The amount of money in your bank account does certainly not reflect the anount of class you have.
LittleBigMan
06-12-09, 17:41
1Ball,
I saw in a report on 60 minutes a few years back on exactly what you are talking about when it comes to sons and their arrogants and tasteless showing off. Maybe that's why the son hasn't paid you back because the parents wouldn't allow it or he gets cut off. Maybe that's why he's still unmarried at his age maybe no women was good enough for their little baby.
Before anyone gets all bent out of shape! said in humor and certainly a generalization!
LBM
What you all say are probably true, because I have seen it all. But do not generalize that all Indians are that way. In fact a couple of years back I met a Indian, a professor in US university, whose attitude towards Thais and women were really offensive. Class, money and education has nothing to do with it. It is the fault of parents who raised them that way, IMHO.
Having said that, I never had any problems anywhere in my travels around the world. In fact I am greeted warmly every time I go to my favorite bars and hotels in BKK.
I don't presume to know why all these Indian dudes(?) have the racism problems. Must be their attitudes and demeanors. In fact, Indian students are getting roughed up in the Land of Oz right now. So shall I call the Aussies racist? Should I call all the Americans racist, now that one white dude shot up at the Holocaust Museum in Washington and espouses hatred on his web site. African students in India are subject to derision. Just because they have dark skin?
i am tired of reading about all these incidents, no matter what country they are from. Lowlifes belong to all races and ethnic groups. What we see are mostly individuals and that cannot be translated as a general indictment on a community or a country.
1Ball, forget about the money. They became rich because they always used OPM to amass their wealth.
DG69, by your descriptions the Arabs are racist because they treat the labor class from Asia as shit.
The Brits, introduced rules to limit immigration to EU countries. Hey, are mostly white aren't they?
I am sure this subject can be discussed ad nauseam. But this is not the place for it.
Let's just stick to sex, shall we. And that's not racist. :)
IrishLager
06-12-09, 18:47
did a go-go crawl tonight thru nana and peeked into g-spot, which is one of the very few nana go-go's i've never been to. the girl i saw from the door was very enticing, so went in, sat down, immediately ordered a beer and 100 bht of ping pong balls for a little sanuk. the girl came to sit down with me and i knew right away i'd be bar fining. after a few minutes, a mamasan comes up with a laminated price list of bar fine, st and lt. wtf?!?! bar fine 600 bht. standard. fair enough. st 2000, lt 4000. mamasan is there listening while i'm trying to negotiate with the girl herself. would have paid 3000 lt no problem. in all my years of coming to thailand, i've never encountered this situation. usually, you pay the standard bar fine and then you and the girl work out the $ she gets for st or lt, as we all know. anyway, i checked bin and told the girl i'd come back tomorrow to try again, as the mamasan standing there made me a bit nervous for the girl, thinking that if she'd agreed to 3000, she'd get in trouble. what the fuck is the deal with g-spot?
Can you tell more about this place. I mean service and of course price too.
Thanks in advance.It's 2000B for a short time (1 pop) the last time I went there. I am not sure about the service because that is hit and miss with the Russian girls. I've had great experiences with them and some luke warm ones, so service is up in the air.
It is fair easy to find and the moment you walk in there will be a older guy there asking if you are looking for Russian girls. Sometime the girls hang out in the lobby.
On a different note, I was standing in front of an money exchange booth directly in front of the Landmark waiting for my friend to exchange some money when low and behold a hot Russian girl dress in the shortest of short comes walking by arm in arm with a old japanese guy (70 yrs old). The guy had the biggest I've been fucked good grim on his face. I thought about running after them and asking where she works at because she was probably the best looking Russian I have seen in Thailand.
So they are out there, you just have to know where to look.
actually, LBM, the guy is worth millions in his own right. If I mentionned the company he is involved with, everyone in India, South Asia, the Middle East, and pretty much all of Africa would know what I am talking about.
He didn't pay me back, coz it just isn't important to him. he forgot about it 30 seconds after I pulled money out of my pocket.
But you are right. He was planning a vacation in Goa a few weeks after the terrible incident in Mumbai. His parents forbid him to go. He is 35.
We are no longer friends.
Just a quick report of Bangkok, I went for a short trip in May (been a few times before). Stayed at Grand President soi 11, Tower 3. Didn't particularly liked it this time, mainly due to unsavoury characters/gusts. No offence, but large gangs of arab/indian guys who were really loud, basically leaving their doors open and living in the corridors, talking load and smoking with music at full blast non-stop. Never saw them with a girl of their own but pinched one of my girls that I brought in in the lift !? The buffet breakfast time was crazy too, twice it was so full, they asked us to wait outside - not pleasant.
One night I came across this semi-pro (or may be non-pro ! ) who agreed to come to my place late at night, but didn't have an ID. She didn't look young or anything, well passed 25 I say (late 20s). What ever I did they wouldn't let her in, she looked really ordinary but I think security had a bad vibe (I offered money, her cell phone etc.). She never replied to my calls/sms later (only once), and never came back, so may be there was something wrong, or she was just a non-pro and went cold - anyway due to the security guy at the hotel I'll never know !
I've been/done most things in Bangkok, so just a summary. Visited Smile mp, see report in the mp section. As for gogo bars I recommend skipping most of them and find the gogo places with shows. It's quite entertaining and worth paying their expensive drinks, also once the show started pick a girl and buy her drink, she will say with you for an hour while the show is on, as oppose to 5 min and back up the stage. Angelwitch in Nana has a show. Not sure which one but there are a couple in Cowboy too, one has a bath show !!! in that girls really wash each other proper (can't remember the name, perhaps one of the ex-pats can help, toilet was upstairs through a winding narrow stairs). Far better than looking at some bored girls standing around... (I think Long Gun in Cowboy is one with fully nude girls and some shows too)
Carnival in Nana on 3rd floor has a mechanical bull, although it was quite the girls had fun and had a ride or two which was great, specially when the tits popped out on an occasion, got me laughing and she got my 100B tip...
Prices for drinks, barfine, girls in gogo bars have all gone up a bit, but I either called up my old friends or picked up girls who were bar hopping, Not the girls standing in the street waiting, but you see working girls going in and out of bars/clubs and looking and making eye contact - in soi 5 - 9 are, easy to spot them, very open to stop and talk in the street. All said yes to 1000B ST right away. I usually chat with them a bit or even have a drink to check them out and then take them back - make sure you check them out.
Also got a number from a gogo bar girl and she visited me the next day before work, didn't speak any English so arranged with her friend on the phone. Real cutie, never discussed money, but I guess I didn't pay enough for a girl of that calibre (a 9 in my book) so next time I called she didn't want to come, shame. I guess you need to judge it and don't pay too much or too little !
Spicy disco in soi 11 (in Ambassador Hotel) is good as a last resort if all failed, open till quite late, live music then DJ, most girls are on day off but wouldn't say no to extra money. Took a girl from there, normally worked in a gogo in Cowboy, 1500 ST, for some reason only CBJ which put a damper on proceeds, otherwise very sweet.
Basically there are so many girls around, if one is asking too much or gives you attitude just say next, be picky and have fun.
1Ball, forget about the money. They became rich because they always used OPM to amass their wealth.
DG69, by your descriptions the Arabs are racist because they treat the labor class from Asia as shit.
The Brits, introduced rules to limit immigration to EU countries. Hey, are mostly white aren't they?
I am sure this subject can be discussed ad nauseam. But this is not the place for it.
Let's just stick to sex, shall we. And that's not racist. :)Indians. Nothing wrong with them. Except wherever they go they expect the world to change for them. In the UK there are many Indians. Never pay tax and always moaning about racism. Britain should introduce rules to stop their welfare system being abused by the Indians. Pakistanis. Poles. Black white who gives a fuck. Is that I have said racism. No. Fact. Cap fits wear it.
Spicy disco in soi 11 (in Ambassador Hotel) is good as a last resort if all failed, open till quite late, live music then DJ, most girls are on day off but wouldn't say no to extra money.
Must be Spice Club, because Spicy is not in Soi 11, but (Soi 1 Ruang Muang?) behind National Stadium coming from Sukhumvit.
did a go-go crawl tonight thru nana and peeked into g-spot, which is one of the very few nana go-go's i've never been to. the girl i saw from the door was very enticing, so went in, sat down, immediately ordered a beer and 100 bht of ping pong balls for a little sanuk. the girl came to sit down with me and i knew right away i'd be bar fining. after a few minutes, a mamasan comes up with a laminated price list of bar fine, st and lt. wtf?!?! bar fine 600 bht. standard. fair enough. st 2000, lt 4000..... what the fuck is the deal with g-spot?
guys, watch out in g-spot (and lolipop). last time i was in there i saw at least 4-5 ladyboys working there. they were the type that had the full surgery, and if you're a newbie it would be hard to tell the difference.
it seems like 2000st and lt4000 is the going rate in nana bars and most all the girls are getting it no problem. imo, the japanese are the main reason for these high prices. it still blows my mind how guys will pay this much(2000st, fine 600, room 300= 2900 for one pop.) much better service and quality in the massage places for this kind of money.
Did Soi Cowboy and Hyatt last night. Cowboy was excellent at the usual places, particularly Tilac, which is a blaze of neon colour and fun. Long Gun was a bit sterile as were many of the others. They had a full nude show at one point which kept me there a little loinger, but then they brought out a specialist crew of slightly overweight mamas and then I had to get out. But Tilac had plenty of characters and a high quota of 8+ girls. There are girls in leather gear on the stage who dance really well. I suspect they are pro dancers only and perhaps not commercially available but maybe I'm wrong here. 1-2 old mamas walking the floor and going good massages on the spot. Nice, kept me relaxed and cheery.
Was tempted to take something out but ended up checking out Hyatt. Really excellent band there at the moment called "Scarlet" I think, and the place was full of fun. A few arrogant wealthy young Thais throwing their money about and ordering people around. A few wealthy older Arabs who'd pre-ordered whole tables of lavish food and drink setups with their entourages, and imbibing expensive champagne, whilst trying to exude an aura of wealth and class but being stuck down the back and unable to see the band for the crowd, so were first pitiable and then largely unnoticed as the night wore on. 5-6 ladyboy suspects. Everyone very friendly though, given the talented and positive entertainers on stage.
My pal took home an unusual looking but very affectionate girl with huge eyes and weird haircut for 3500B. I suspected ladyboy but he was convinced not. However, said that she was right into Greek action only, in a major way and was all set up for it with her KY etc in bag. Damn lucky SOB. Or maybe not. There was the usual female parts up front but hmmm. Perhaps she was post-op. Well he paid a price for his fun.
I didn't take anything as all the decent ones got grabbed by 2am but a good place and although the rules are a little more like a nightclub, it didn't quite have the same meatmarket feeling of the other places and the attitudes were good. Will go back again.
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Its very simple.
If the farangs stop going there and drinking loads of beers while simply watching girls dance (what is the point of this I do not know, I spend money to fuck, not to sit around watching some girls dancing on a stage), then the bar will lose all their drinks income.
This will hurt, and they will have to investigate why, and if they find its due to the girls fee's being too expensive, then those fee's will drop.
There are many bars in Bangkok, with many girls in them. There is no need to go to the Nana, you can go to any freelance bar, or Cowboy or Soi 22 bars or anywhere else you want.
Only when people stop drinking in these bars are prices are too high, will the pressure be put on to bar owners to control ST and LT pricing. The more the girls get, they less often they have to do it.
Two LT in a month and the girl can live at 4000B a go, so why should she work hard when she can take the occasional LT and live quite happily.
Stick to you principles, it should be 1500B short time and 2000B long time.
Thats it.
A simple approach to controlling your inability to control yourself after a few beers is this:
Afternoon, go to one of the many massage places (Angel, Tulip or the many others on Sukhumvit Soi 33 or 24 or 24/1) and have a 90 minute session and a good fuck.
This will set you back 600B for the house and 1500B for the girl.
Now you have had a good fuck in the afternoon you can be choosy and picky over the evenings entertainment. You are in no mad rush for a fuck that day, as you have had one already.
I always have an afternoon session, then whether I want to take in the evening or not is totally up to me, I am under no self induced pressure and can turn down any who may try to get more money.
Another short cut to happiness is to be very clear from the outset. If you like a girl and she comes over, then ask her straight up if she will go LT for 2000B.
If she says no then play hard ball, no drinks or anything else and find another. When you find one who agree's to the 2000 for LT then and only then waste your money on "ladies drinks".
Guys, watch out in g-spot (and lolipop). Last time I was in there I saw at least 4-5 ladyboys working there. They were the type that had the full surgery, and if you're a newbie it would be hard to tell the difference.
It seems like 2000ST and LT4000 is the going rate in Nana bars and most all the girls are getting it no problem. IMO, the Japanese are the main reason for these high prices. It still blows my mind how guys will pay this much(2000ST, fine 600, room 300= 2900 for one pop.) Much better service and quality in the massage places for this kind of money.
Indians. Nothing wrong with them. Except wherever they go they expect the world to change for them. How very different from the English abroad, eh?
In the UK there are many Indians. Never pay tax and always moaning about racism. Britain should introduce rules to stop their welfare system being abused by the Indians. Pakistanis. Poles.Can't be bothered to argue, but it's the immigrants who usually shore up the economy. And the rich fat cats who manage to avoid paying tax. Check out the fabulously rich Vestey family who avoided paying UK tax for 100 years.
Black white who gives a fuck. Is that I have said racism. No. Yes, that's racism
Fact. Cap fits wear it.Quite.
I've been off of the forum for a while dealing with some health issues. I'm all fit now and ready to get back to mongering. To everyone that has sent me Pm in the last six months I will get back to you.
What I am curious about is Chinatown. From everything I have read and everyone I have talked to in Bangkok there are freelancers and SW there. However there are no reports indicating where they are and how numerous they are. I have to admit the appeal of paying 500 baht versus the 1000+ for freelancers and SW in Bangkok is strong. One of the reasons I like Pattaya is because the Beach Road girls(the dozens and dozens of them) are all asking 500 baht give or take. The girls at Nana Plaza and across the street are no more attractive than the Beach Road girls in Pattaya. Yet they charge 500 baht more.
Nevertheless I had a friend go to Chinatown in Bangkok and spend 4 hours looking for a SW. Didnt see one. Now Chinatown is a big place full of people. Its really crowded according to him. So maybe he didnt see them. But he had a map of Chinatown and walked most of the place. Can anyone tell the board here where the SW and freelancers are in Chinatown? Can you be specific? Many of us would take the boat ride or taxi to Chinatown just to do something different.
And to think you could get nearly three girls in Chinatown(according to the few reports about Chinatown the girls are asking 300 baht) for the price of one at Nana....
And to think you could get nearly three girls in Chinatown(according to the few reports about Chinatown the girls are asking 300 baht) for the price of one at Nana....
How's your Thai, mate? I reckon that part of what I am paying for is some semblance of an ability to communicate. Now that doesn't mean we're gonna have a conversation about Dostoevsky, but it does mean that I'm not going to get a blank stare and with a wrinkled forehead.
What I am curious about is Chinatown. From everything I have read and everyone I have talked to in Bangkok there are freelancers and SW there. However there are no reports indicating where they are and how numerous they are. I have to admit the appeal of paying 500 baht versus the 1000+ for freelancers and SW in Bangkok is strong. One of the reasons I like Pattaya is because the Beach Road girls(the dozens and dozens of them) are all asking 500 baht give or take. The girls at Nana Plaza and across the street are no more attractive than the Beach Road girls in Pattaya. Yet they charge 500 baht more.
Can anyone tell the board here where the SW and freelancers are in Chinatown? Can you be specific? Many of us would take the boat ride or taxi to Chinatown just to do something different.
Yes, any reasonable man loves the Beach Road - alas it is again under pressure from police round-ups of the girls. This has long been a problem in Chinatown as well - so nowadays there are only a small number of girls there compared to in the past, just like Pattaya beach, and quality is down drastically in both places. The big reason that Chinatown has never caught on is that even though the price is 300-500 baht, the service is geared towards Thai customers - meaning abominable, even hostile, rushed service.
However its worth a try and there is no doubt that the girls on Sukhumvit are not worth what they are charging. So here is how to find the girls in Chinatown - take a taxi to the Taipei Hotel. There will be girls around there. Now, to see the rest, walk from this hotel up to the roundabout and back down all the way to the Hua Lampung train station area. There are several sois that can take you this way, and most have a few girls. You will find girls clustered around super-cheap short time hotels. Total maybe 30 girls in the whole area.
Indians. ............In the UK there are many Indians. Never pay tax and always moaning about racism. Britain should introduce rules to stop their welfare system being abused by the Indians. Pakistanis. ..................
They are just taking back what is owed to them by the Brits, who looted the Indian subcontinent for 200 years. What goes around comes round. :D
Yes, any reasonable man loves the Beach Road - alas it is again under pressure from police round-ups of the girls. This has long been a problem in Chinatown as well - so nowadays there are only a small number of girls there compared to in the past, just like Pattaya beach, and quality is down drastically in both places. The big reason that Chinatown has never caught on is that even though the price is 300-500 baht, the service is geared towards Thai customers - meaning abominable, even hostile, rushed service.
However its worth a try and there is no doubt that the girls on Sukhumvit are not worth what they are charging. So here is how to find the girls in Chinatown - take a taxi to the Taipei Hotel. There will be girls around there. Now, to see the rest, walk from this hotel up to the roundabout and back down all the way to the Hua Lampung train station area. There are several sois that can take you this way, and most have a few girls. You will find girls clustered around super-cheap short time hotels. Total maybe 30 girls in the whole area.
How bout an intersection or cross street for the "Taipei Hotel"...
Cowboy was excellent at the usual places, particularly Tilac, which is a blaze of neon colour and fun.Sometimes I still miss the 'old' Cowboy, now that the place has been Nana-ized practically beyond recognition. But at Tilac at least it's hard to complain -- loads of talent and a good lively atmosphere. To my mind it's quite easily the best bar on the street these days. And judging by the business they're doing, others must agree.
How bout an intersection or cross street for the "Taipei Hotel"...
I've no idea I'm afraid, and no way to find it. But most taxi drivers know it, and certainly most in Chinatown will know it. Just take the Subway to Hua Lampong (the main train station), and get a taxi from there.
Hello,
Anyone know where one can get some Indian girls in BKK?
Member #3428
06-14-09, 02:17
How bout an intersection or cross street for the "Taipei Hotel"...
If you got GPS on your phone then I think it is.... N 014 48.151, E 100 36.662
422 Mitraphan Rd, phone is or was... 02 222 8710 or 02 226 6480-4
If you got GPS on your phone then I think it is.... N 014 48.151, E 100 36.662
422 Mitraphan Rd, phone is or was... 02 222 8710 or 02 226 6480-4
Sounds good, thanks.
RJSSS212
KS Pharmacy, maybe? My favorite in Bangkok. The young guy who runs it is very knowledgeable and helpful.
Yes, it's KS Pharmacy, I just passed it yesterday again and had a look on the sign. Very helpful indeed and I can fully recommend this store. Had a problem with heartburn, since a few months. Didn't went to a doctor since I lived and worked in England and had literally no time to go. I guess it was just the sress from work. Well, in the KS they gave me pills and I guess it was the right one. Heartburn stopped.
It seems like 2000ST and LT4000 is the going rate in Nana bars and most all the girls are getting it no problem.
Friday night in a Nana bar girl quoted 1500 for ST, and dropped to 1300 without any haggling from me when I didn't go for it after 10 minutes. I'm afraid I was pressed for time so I couldn't take her up on it. BF was quoted at 600.
Friday night in a Nana bar girl quoted 1500 for ST, and dropped to 1300 without any haggling from me when I didn't go for it after 10 minutes. I'm afraid I was pressed for time so I couldn't take her up on it. BF was quoted at 600.
Yes, you can haggle the price down with no problem, just I think that is possible even in the highest high season. It just depends on the girl. If she has no customer for long time and is in need for money than she will agree sex for little money. If she is less pretty for the most guys, than she will seldom have customer and so they go for little money. The better looking ones might go for less in low season when there is not so much business. The stunner will go for less if you are attractive for them (look, long time Expat who could be a regular guest, funny, etc). But, if the stunner needs money than she will go for the one who pay the higher rate.
Stunners will have always enough clients I guess. Average girls have to suffer on low season. Were in Baccara and I guess they must have 50-70 girls in there, on two stages. I couldn't see one who I would rate high than a 7/10 in the look department. I guess they have very seldom customer and live only from what the earn from the Bar and maybe tips and lady drinks.
Nevertheless it's always the best not to pay high prices. Haggle a bit to a resonable amount this makes it easier for others customer (whose could be you on your next visit).
A couple of days back got a 1500ST at Sharks in Cowboy. Talent level was pretty high with many 7+ chicas. BF at 600 also.
Even if an absolute stunner, 4000 LT is WAY out of line. Nana quotes were 2500 LT at several places.
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Must be Spice Club, because Spicy is not in Soi 11, but (Soi 1 Ruang Muang?) behind National Stadium coming from Sukhumvit.
You are quite right, I always mixed these two up.... (I think I heard the other one is closed - but don't take my word for it).
You are quite right, I always mixed these two up.... (I think I heard the other one is closed - but don't take my word for it).
No, boths are open.
Spice Club in Sukhumvit Soi 11 has an entrance fee from 200 Baht with one free drink. The Club is good from 1 to 3 am I would say.
Spicy has an entrance fee from 300 Baht with one free drink and is good from 2-6 am I would say.
So, start with Spice Club and change than after 3 am to Spicy is a good move.
Just one observation from now. Even when many say that it's low season, it seems to me that it's not true. The ratio men to women is the same as it was in November, imho. Also, the clubs are equal filled, so afterhour club wise I don't see a change to high season.
The GoGo Bars might have a little bit less customer from the West, but enough from Asian countries. Sometimes like yesterday I got the feeling that even in GoGo-Bars which are not known as an Asian Playground, are now more Asian customer than Western guys.
Not, that I say that this is bad, just an observation and a hind that the business for the Thai p4p-industry isn't that bad as many say. The East-Asian, Indian and Arab tourists compensate the lack of European and American tourists, imho.
Stunners will have always enough clients I guess. Average girls have to suffer on low season.
This one was very fit. Washboard stomach, anime face, small but soft and shapely tits ..
Were in Baccara and I guess they must have 50-70 girls in there, on two stages.
I've been seeing (in the sense of looking at) a couple of girls at Baccara for a year or so now, and they look like they've grown up fast in that short time .. This weekend got stung for a tequila by one who gulped it and then asked me very nicely if I would mind her going to canvas other customers. She butterfly'd about 4 mature gentlemen (no Japanese, though there are plenty of Japanese customers), but did come to "dance" right in front of me when she was back on, all flirty smiles.
Nevertheless it's always the best not to pay high prices. Haggle a bit to a resonable amount this makes it easier for others customer (whose could be you on your next visit).
Agreed.
Member #4698
06-14-09, 18:09
When I got back to BKK, I first went to Thonlor Massage parlor. I will submit a story on that at a later time. Suffice it to say I had a nice girl who gave me a great soapy shower massage, a naked blowjob, and 2 passionate lays in many positions before my time ran out. Nice. I save her a 500b tip.
Next night I decided to go to Nana. IMHO The Rainbow bars have the largest number of great looking girls in the plaza. Persosnally, as of this writing, I like Rainbow 4 the best. Next trip things may change. Who knows. Anyway I walked into Rainbow 4 around 8pm and just like Baccarra on Cowboy, the place was a jumping. Two stages with lots of babes and lots of customers. On the stage on the left as you enter, I saw three amazing girls dancing in a row. They were all atleast 7.5 or higher. I took a fancy to one taller girl (5ft 5in) with a body like a Thai model (great be cup tits, thin but with a slightly hour glass figure, curved ass and great legs). She had a beautiful face and wore her hair Chinese style in a pony tail with bangs hanging over her forhead. Wow! This girl was the best looking girl I had sex with on this trip. She was better looking than at least half the girls in Thai Penthouse.
She saw me looking her over and smiled back. I indicated I wanted to buy her a drink and she came to my table after her set. We talked a little and she seemed to have an congenial personality. Gitty up. I asked her how much she wanted. She replied 2000. I countered with 1500. She demurely declined so. I agreed to her price. A few minutes later we left and went upstairs.
The room was large and clean. We kissed and she asked me to take a shower, but declined to take one with me. Strike 1. I took a quick shower just to make her happy (I had already showered in my hotel before going out). Then she showered while I waited for her on the bed. She came back into the room with a towel wrapped around her body. I unwrapped her and started feeling her up an kissing her neck and pretty little tits. Again, the girl had an amazing body. Face 9.5. Body 9.5. We laid down together and strike 2, no blow job. I was getting disappointed but what the hell, I still wanted to do her.
I messed around with a little fore play kissing and massaging her breasts. Then I mounted her. I easily entered her vagina which was a shade larger than I would have preferred. This girl had obviously seen a lot of action, even though she was only 23. Then strike 3, she just layed there. I tried my best to get her going but she was as unenthusiastic as a girl can get. She was totally passive. I asked her; "Tar why you no like me. I like you." And she said "I like you." To which I said "Yes, but I like you a lot, you only like me a little." Anyway that’s the way it was. Normally I would have lost my hard on. I like responsive girls, but Tar was so beautiful, I stayed hard even though I was a thousand miles away from orgasm.
This situation continued for at least 30 minutes. I guess Tar must have figured things out by then I. E. That I was not some quick shot 5 minute customer because after 30-40 minutes of passivity, she started giving me some action accompanied by some quiet moans. I didn’t believe in any of it, but at least this was better than what went on before. After another 10 minutes or so I came. There was no after play. She removed my condom and wiped me up. We got dressed. I gave her, her 2000b. No tip. She did not directly complain about the lack of a tip, but indirectly told me I should leave a tip for the maid. I left the maid 20b which she thought was not adequate. I told her she could leave the maid something more if she wanted. We returned to the bar and said goodbye. I sat down at a table and ordered a drink for myself. I left soon after Tar got back on stage. I casually waved goodbye. Sad little princess. Oh yeah, I forgot, while I was inside her I asked if she had any boyfriends. She said Thai men don’t like GoGo girls. I said what about a Farang boyfriend. She said no.
Now here is the thing.. Who is responsible for such poor service? I blame management. Look, from the moment you enter Rainbow 4, a costumer is given great service. They find you a table, take your order, and bring your drink in less than a minute. It is a well managed machine, and there must be 100 customers or more at 8-10pm. Try getting that level of service in an American or European bar. But management drops the ball the minute you bar fine the girl and take her out. That is wrong. They receive the bar fine. Therefore, the bar is responsible for the service the girl provides or does not provide. If I owned one of these bars, you better believe, I would make sure all my girls provided the best service imaginable. I would ask my customers for feedback or send in friends incognito to sample the girls and make sure everything is top notch.
So it has come to this: I can’t rely on getting a quality session at Rainbow bars. I have been frequenting Go Go’s since my first visit to BKK in 1989. On other visits to Rainbow, I have had very good experiences, but it has become hit or miss. Now, you can always get a dud now and then no matter where you go, but considering the prices and these statistics, I have come to the conclusion that oily massage + soapy massage parlors are the way to go. I still drop by Nana and Cowboy for a drink, and I still take girls out occasionally, but these days 80% of my business goes to the massage parlors.
Conclusion:
Rainbow 4 – this bar has the best selection of good looking girls in Nana. The bar rocks and service in the bar is amazing. Take out service is hit or miss. Take your chances.
Tar – a sad little princess. Face 9.5. Body 9.5 Pussy 5.0 (was a tad larger than I prefer). Service 4.
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...Now here is the thing.. Who is responsible for such poor service? I blame management...
No, management is not to blame here.
The bar fine you paid was not for the girl's services, but only to compensate the bar for taking her away.
Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose with bar girls, but if she really was a 9.5 like you say, I would have paid her fee just for the privilege of eating her pussy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkEXfp-JTTE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epiatnight%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Findex%2Ephp%3Fshowtopic%3D26786%26st%3D0&feature=player_embeddedAlthough the Brit was an arsehole....sucker punch and run away...then two kicks while your man was out...wankers spring to mind.
I would love two minutes in the ring with those three!
Wish I knew how to use quotes. Apologies for sidetracking again, but the first few days in BKK and here in Pattaya just brings back so memories!
I should post this in the "Racism" thread. But, you may not read it. Your experiences as a "kaek" are a good example of the Thais not being able to see past the ends of their noses. A good many of them are at least as dark, and have features quite similar to those they describe as "kaek", not least because many, unbeknownst to them have some Indian blood flowing through their veins from centuries of intimate cross-cultural interchange. Therefore, I always find it disturbing and amusing all at the same time that this particular prejudice persists.Thanks OTH, it’s a situation that I have to shake my head over as well. But I do agree for the most part with bro Duniawala below – I’ve found that a good attitude goes a long way – I think I’m a pretty pleasant character. And the way that some of the Indian tourists carry themselves makes me cringe – being painted with same brush makes trips like this considerably less fun.
Having said that, I never had any problems anywhere in my travels around the world. In fact I am greeted warmly every time I go to my favorite bars and hotels in BKK.I don't presume to know why all these Indian dudes(?) have the racism problems. Must be their attitudes and demeanors.
Two years ago I had my first mongering mission to Thailand which will also be my last. I am an East Indian origin guy based in California. It was an utterly disgusting experience. And I agree that part of the blame, a significant part I might say, is due to the behavior of "mongers" from that area. Whatever be the cause I found the situation to be irreparable.But I really do get the frustration you feel, man. Walking down the streets in BKK or Pattaya is a relatively quiet, hassle-free experience for me, much to my disappointment. The thing is, I don’t even want to try to talk to a girl, even if she is pretty, because the first thing that would go through her head is that I am Indian, and the initial reaction of revulsion (guess I’m not as handsome as I think I am) is…offputting.
Last year I met an east Indian guy from California who wanted to hit a freelance place with me so I hung out with him. He treated the girls like total Shit!He was so rude and bad with them that they made fun of him and called Hi Ali Baba! He totally deserved it and when he left the girls told me "that's why we don't like Indians! "
Sigh. That guy you met is an A$$hat! E. One of my squeezes from way back told me the same thing – that was why she was not really keen on coming over to sit with me the first time I met her in Big Dog’s.
I got in to Rainbow 4! I walked up the door and asked them straight if I could go in. The security guy heard my accent, asked me if I was going to drink, and that was it. It was a big moment.
All the prices that have been mentioned recently about the "more prestigious" gogo bars seem to apply equally to everyone, I guess. The one I chose from Rainbow 4 was asked for B2000 ST and was initially trying to get me upstairs. She did come back to the hotel with me, stayed for about an hour, and she had a pretty good time. I did keep her phone number, if anyone wants, but I can't for the life of me remember her tag number. She's 31, tiny (<150cm). A spinner.
Looks 6.5, Attitude 9, Sex 7, but a good time.
My Hillary II bar story is a little strange, but I kind of liked there. On Saturday night the place was pretty packed, live band, pool tables, the crowd was enjoying themselves. Mainly freelancers, many guys with dates for the night. I think it closes at 2ish. The bar is on the right side of the soi as you head towards the Suk. As you head from the intersection it's about 400m in, with a sister bar on the opposite side of the road. As I was walking up Soi 4 towards the Suk, a girl who was walking out of one of the sidestreets said Hello, so I stopped to talk. She asked where I was going, and told me she was going to Gulliver's to meet her friend. I asked her if I could come, maybe buy a round for her and her friend and she agreed. But when we walked past Hillary II, she told me she wanted to go in there. She sat with me, had a few drinks, then said she wanted to go back to my hotel to drink more. Once we were in the room we talked a bit more, then she said that she had to go meet her friend to pick up her car. Then came the story about how she came to BKK to work at a factory, lost her job and now couldn't afford the car payment. She told me she needed B3000 by the next day, and asked if I could help her. She offered B1000, but I balked. The thing is, I would have been fine with B1000 if it didn't come with the story. She was pretty fun to hang out with, and cute too. After she left I even called her back, and she said that she would come back to my hotel, but never did. I kept her number, and I will try to set up a date with her when I get back to BKK. She said she was 23, quite cute. This is what you get when you actually try to talk to the girls. (Joking! ) Actually, I was thinking back to night I had here a few years ago, when a friend and I just sat at a bar on the Suk with a girl who was waiting for a friend to come back from an ST. We drank with her, her friend came, we drank some more, and took them up to my room for more drinks. They spent the night, even after we told them that we weren't planning on paying. That was a pretty good night.
Anyway, about her, you're welcome to have her phone number too, YMMV. Looks 7.5, Attitude 8.5 (even including the sob story)
A friend from work in Korea was also passing through BKK, and we arranged to meet on the first night and share a room. I booked at the new-smelling Ibis Nana, down soi 4 past the intersection of soi6. Internet rate was B1300/night, for a new but small and simple room. Hotel is GF, but not many Westerners there. It is popular Indian travellers, but there were also a number of Asian tourists and families. Overall rating 3/5.
My bright idea was to have him meet me in the Nana parking lot when he made it in from the airport. Not a good plan. At 2:30 in the morning I am standing here waiting for him, trying to explain to the girls who talk to me that I am really waiting for a friend, that it's a guy, not a girl, that I can't take her to my room because my friend and I are sharing, unless she's OK with that. When I did find him and we did some late night wandering, it was amusing to see the reaction. If he walked ahead of me, the girls would be eyeing him and calling out, but ignoring me. If I walked ahead, the girls would all be looking past me. He's Taiwanese-American, but someone even tried to talk to him in Japanese. So when we walk together I guess we really confuse people. A Japanese guy and an Indian guy hanging out. And then when we open our mouths and people can hear our North American accents it confuses them even more. I heard many comments as we passed by. He isn't into this scene, so he isn't really much fun to travel with. It might have something to do with his first time on the Suk, sitting at a street-side bar taking in the scene. He made eye contact with a girl who turned out to be a guy, who then proceeded to grab his package. The shock was doubled, first by the grab, then by the realization. So now he just avoids all eye contact and sprints through the crowds. He will enjoy when I take him to the gogo-bars on Wednesday night.
Anyway, there is a Nana Parking Lot girl to write about. She was there the first night when I was waiting to meet my friend. She didn't talk to me, but I spoke briefly with one of her friends. This girl is 23, natural, and pretty that way. Her look suits her, she doesn't need to be model-beautiful or glamorous to be attractive. The next night I saw her and asked about her friend. She remembered me from the previous night, and we started talking. She was really easy to talk to, good attitude, friendly and straightforward. ST was B1000, DFK/DATY/BBBJ (I chose that after she declined BBFS. I'm not as good as Bangkok Banger). I told her that she was welcome to stay longer, but she said she was going back to work. She gave me her number, and I said that I would call her later that night to see if she was bored and wanted another break. She said she would come back, and she did answer when I called, but she was with friends and said I should call her later this week when I get back to BKK. So I will.
Looks: 7.5 (but I really liked her look), Attitude 8.5, Sex 7.5
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Fast Eddie 48
06-15-09, 08:05
When I got back to BKK, I first went to Thonlor Massage parlor. I will submit a story on that at a later time. Suffice it to say I had a nice girl who gave me a great soapy shower massage, a naked blowjob, and 2 passionate lays in many positions before my time ran out. Nice. I save her a 500b tip.Natty,
You should know better many post about bad attuide on gogo girl in this forum, The better looking the gogo girl the worst the attiude, I find gogo girl at soi cowboy and Pattaya have better attuide than nana girl, but you said you didn't even get an cbj that was a suprise to me.
Again gogo girl is a hit and miss just like massage girl in BKK, you are not going to get GFE every time.
Fast Eddie 48
recently spent about a week in bangkok... had lots of fun experiences which i thought i would include all together in one report.
bj bars
began with a visit to star of light for one of those wonderful bjs i had read about here… ended up taking two lovely ladies on the bench in the bar as i was taking a long time and didn’t want to wear them out. good time, and indeed, they were skillful, especially in comparison to what you get elsewhere… e.g., at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), which i had been to before, and returned to once again on this trip. on the theory that a heavy girl can sometimes deliver as good or better a bj than a hottie… i did not object to the girl assigned me as i entered [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). but i was disappointed by the service… she tried, but she lacked the range of techniques the two women at sol had so ably employed to bring me off… this one just wasn’t doing it for me.
another experience along these lines - playskool bar in soi cowbooy. tried out the naughty boys spot at the back of the bar. not as much fun as i had hoped, though - took me too long for the girls' taste, and i left unsatisfied... but there were some fun aspects to it if you like the public viewing.
o.k., so back to day 1: headed out later that night to soi cowboy, and then later to thermae coffee shop for late night selection. found a gem - in her 30s and had a beautiful body, a pleasant face, and a nice friendly attitude. she spoke decent english and could carry a conversation. agreed on a price and headed back for an outstanding couple of hours at my hotel. showered together, and received her undivided attention for the entire time she was there (including turning off her cell phone, thank you very much). saw her again a few nights later at thermae, but decided that variety is the spice of mongering life, so i passed her up for a late 20s girl named cat. nicely endowed, pretty body... cat was a lot of fun... and a turn on. couldn’t speak as much english, but we could converse in japanese, so it was ok. so far thermae was 2 for 2 for me ... tried another night but struck out - picked a girl entirely on innocent appearance, and she turned out to be a starfish...
clearly the key was patience and making sure i spent some time talking to them get a little feel for the attitude before agreeing...
soapies
decided i would spend some time at soapies - visited nataree late one afternoon based on good reports here. the scene there is unusual for the fishbowl experience - you walk in and sit in the viewing area... where there are also many women sitting - and there is also a glass behind which other women are sitting... papasan explained that the girls i was looking at behind the window offered body slide, whereas the others did not... selection of those offering body slide was much more limited, but found one i found visually appealing and who was making all the right smiling moves to me as well... (passed up dozens of very attractive younger girls sitting around in the viewing area). headed to the room and after ordering drinks, we settled down to bathing, a nice body slide with bbbj and covered fs on the mat, followed by more bathing fun... and finally by another round of fs on the bed. after resting a bit, she tried to make it happen again with a very nice bbbj, and we almost got there, but alas, time ran out. a really nice experience, though the mat play was not as skillful (or as detailed - e.g., no rimming) as i was used to from japanese soapies ... but still highly recommended if you have never had a sexy girl cover you with gel and rub herself all over you. (if you want the body slide experience make sure you select the gel massage). upon leaving around 6 pm, the number of lovely girls lining the walls of the greeting room had increased enormously – seemed like a few dozen were now around a hundred, but maybe i was just drooling too much.
another soapie experience was had at annie's. after all the buzz here about annie's i thought i should try it. mamasan asked me what i was looking for, and i explained i wanted good looking, and especially important is good service... so i declined a somewhat older woman who really didn't attract me (but who did provide "everything" - i.e., anal as well) in favor of her second recommendation for best service - #32 as i recall was the number. she certainly tried hard to please, and i had a good session... but not an outstanding one - she wasn't as much of a turn-on as the cutie from nataree was). but annie's is a lot cooler place. i felt comfortable hanging out there for a while chatting afterwards with the woman who worked cleaning the rooms - she told me had been working there for something like 30 years and lived in a room upstairs – the people at annies are like her family. though i didn’t have my best session there, i did have a good feeling about the place and the people there.
gogo bars
another couple of days i visited nana and cowboy. i had never barfined a girl at one of the gogo bars, so i decided to see what that would be like. i was a bit wary, because some of them are too aggressive for my taste in trying to get you to buy them drinks or barfine them; but i came to appreciate the opportunity to view the goods in advance - spent time at nana, but never saw anything i really wanted to invest in, so i came back to cowboy a few times and had a few beers at a number of the bars until i finally found what i wanted at cowboy ii. it happened like this: i was one of only a few guys at the bar – some places are a lot better at attracting crowds than others. but something about cowboy ii caught my eye – maybe the totally nude dancing helped? anyway, as i sat there, i came to realize that i was attracted to certain women for their bodies, but that many of them were clearly going through the motions of dancing (or weren't that good as dancers) – not very interesting. what could be sexy was not because of their detached, distant attitude. despite being one of the only ones in the bar (indeed, the only one on my side of it), it was hard to attract their gaze.
then i found one who was dancing very sensuously, actively trying to draw me into her dance. at first, i thought, sexy woman, but older less attractive face. small boobs, but certainly a trim and nice looking body. but the more she danced for me, the sexier she seemed – and with one exception of an incredibly good dancer there, she was far and above the sexiest dancer of the lot. we made lots of eye contact, and then when her time was up, she put some clothes on and came and joined me. no hard sell for drinks or bar fine, and good english skills. indeed, i appreciated the skillful seduction she performed on me… and barfined her after we had a few drinks together and some good conversation… and determining that she was interested. started out with st with no price negotiated (which i know is not always smart, but in this case was absolutely the right way) and then ended up having such a good time that i invited her to spend the night. she told me she is over 40 – which i believed based on the face, but she had the body of a 30 year old… and she was an incredible lover.
the next night i returned to soi cowboy thinking i would bring home another gogo girl – i liked the opportunity to view the body in advance and to see them dancing and chat a bit… my attitude had changed. but i didn’t want to go with her again, as my time was limited and i wanted variety… so i hung out at some other bars for a while, and was again taken in by the sexy dancing of some very beautiful girls – this time a lot younger – who also latched onto my gaze and didn’t let go… when their dance time was up, three of them came over to sit with me, but i only accepted the two i liked (the other one gave me the finger – nice). i knew i was in that space of finding them very sexy but not sure whether i would be likely to find good service or attitude, so i decided to feel it out. they wanted me to take both home, which had its appeal, so i asked whether they would do bbbj… honest answers came that they would not, so we parted on friendly terms. too bad, as they had great tits that i sorely wanted to fool with!
back café thermae
after hanging out at various of the bars on soi cowboy, i realized it wasn’t going to happen the same way for me that night, so i headed for thermae. ended up with a younger woman, nice boobs and thin… but i ran right into the very situation i had been trying to avoid (my own weakness for cute girls led me there)… mechanical service, uninterested in me, anxious to finish and get going… turned me off and i sent her packing… and then headed out to see what i might find. within a block of my hotel i ran into another woman i had talked with at thermae that night – again a bit older, but a knockout. not sure when i looked at her why i had passed her by – probably just too many choices to make her stand out. we chatted and within a minute we were heading back to my hotel room. she said she had fingered me for one who liked the younger girls, but knew that i would not be pleased by the one i had selected, as she has seen her many times, and she goes mostly with japanese guys. don’t get me wrong – i am not a japanese basher – indeed, have spent considerable time in japan and i like japanese guys, but some of the girls i have spoken with at thermae have them nailed for paying too much and not demanding good long service… so these girls divide the world into girls who focus on the japanese as customers (and who appeal to typical japanese guys, especially those with a taste for cuter young girls with lighter skin), and those who do not. they think – and they may be right – that the ones who work hard to attract the japanese customers are less likely to provide good service.
anyway, we headed back and she showed me a proper good time. name nok (i ran about 3:1 in forgetting names, but for some reason, nok remained… maybe because she had really good knockers- indeed, fabulous ones, though clearly bolt-ons. don’t really love the idea of bolt-ons, but every now and then i meet some that convince me to reconsider. nok had a set like that. she also had a great attitude… pleasing me was what mattered, and she made sure it happened the right way – i.e., whatever way i wanted. a wonderful ending to my stay in bangkok!
well, i’m sure i am leaving something out, but this is a pretty good summary of my time (at least the mongering part!) in bangkok. one thing i have reconfirmed from my time here in bangkok is that the standard preference expressed by a lot of guys for younger girls who fit the model stereotype only works for me at the visual level - i like the eye candy as much as the next guy, and the younger girls (i mean 20-25) can look great, but they also tend to be less interested in providing good service, or in responding well to the needs of different customers. there are, of course exceptions, and i keep hoping to find them. but this seems to be a good generalization from my experience this trip and elsewhere. the preference for the younger ones that look hot can be somewhat self-defeating. that, of course, is also a function of the fact that i am not a 20-something guy, and want something more than i am sure i wanted when i was 20...
well, hope you are having as much fun as i had, even when things didn't go perfectly! bangkok really is an incredible place!
Can anybody provide any details on this establishment. A friend suggested I go there on my next visit but it looks like that it is more focused on Asian customers than farangs. Any idea about costs, food quality and what the deal is with the hostesses if you take a fancy to one. Local input appreciated.
Member #4698
06-15-09, 14:09
Natty,
The better looking the gogo girl the worst the attiude, I find gogo girl at soi cowboy and Pattaya have better attuide than nana girl.
Again gogo girl is a hit and miss just like massage girl in BKK, you are not going to get GFE every time.
Fast Eddie 48So true. Still I love beauty and I will always seek it out. The reward comes when you find a beautiful girl who also possesses a good attitude. In the first part of my "tale of two go go’s" I reported on an experience I had with a little hottie from Baccara. That session was very nice, although I have had much better at some massage parlors. And as you pointed out, it's always hit or miss no matter where you go. The point is that some places have a higher percentage of hits than misses. There is also another factor not mentioned so far and that is the chemistry between you and the girl. If the girl does not like you, professional though she is, end of story.
Member #4698
06-15-09, 14:45
Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose with bar girls, but if she really was a 9.5 like you say, I would have paid her fee just for the privilege of eating her pussy.Hi Daddy07,
I got a kick out of your bold gung-ho of point of view. I wish I was as brave as you. Many many times I have wanted to dive on in, but I have two rules and so far I have stuck by those rules. Actually I had 3 rules, but rule #3 was broken the first time a girl from Angel Massage unexpectantly went down on me – BBBJ. It felt so good that I have never honored that rule since.
As to the girl, believe me, she had that special something. Call it radiant beauty. Hands down she was one of the best looking Thai girls I ever had sex with, and I have had sex with a lot of good looking Thai girls. But her pussy was a little too big – too much wear and tear. I had no desire go down on her. Too bad she didn’t go down on me!
But that reminds me of a girl I met at Rose Bar in Pnomm Penh. A real honey. I’m still thinking about her and it has been 3 months. Now that petite little thing with her perfect little tities, her perfectly proportioned ass, and her tight pussy gave me hours of passionate sex – now that girl I wanted to go down on. But did not! Call me chicken shit or prudent, I don’t care.
FriendlyPlanet
06-15-09, 16:26
Stew,
Thanks for the nice detailed Bangkok post. I was also in town a couple of weeks ago, and was surprised with how many good looking girls were at Thermae- that place has picked up again.
Other places that I thought had girls with good service levels were the Nana parking lot, and of course, Eden Club.
My two gogo experiences were disappointing- hottest girls, but poorest services- both mechanical, and anxious to get back to the bar.
Natty- I think I blame us, the punter, more than the bar owner. After all, he's just trying to optimize what he makes- getting in good looking girls who only go out for short time is the best way to do that, given that most people in the bar are tourists.
We just need to ask for what we want, and just say no if we aren't going to get it, instead of thinking with the little head. Ask her if she BBBJ's and/or french kisses and/or likes sex. Most likely if she tells you no to 2 out of 3, you know what the experience is going to be like back in the hotel- just move on!
i'm going to thailand tomorrow (can't wait).
i'm already used to the star of light, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), soi coiwboy, nana etc etc etc.
thing is, i had a trip to frankfurt recently and went to an fkk club (the palace), my tastes being what they are, i spent an afternoon banging mostly thai chicks anyway.
my question is: are there any establishments in bkk that are fkk style? ie girls walking around naked without the neon and the banging tunes? where you can relax for a while before sloping off to a room or better still, taking part in some public exhibitionism.
don't get me wrong, i absolutely love thailand and this will be be my 7th trip, i just loved the relaxed ambience of the german fkk club. if there were such a thing in bkk, i would be one happy monger!
any help would be appreciated!
pompoy
Very well written report, thanks, Stew2!! And the trade-off between very young and stunning versus around 30 and great provider is also quite real. My fav age right now is 27 ;)
A really nice experience, though the mat play was not as skillful (or as detailed - e.g., no rimming) as I was used to from Japanese soapies ... but still highly recommended if you have never had a sexy girl cover you with gel and rub herself all over you. (If you want the body slide experience make sure you select the gel massage). Here you mean soapies in Japan, or Japan-themed soapies in Bangkok? Try out Akane next time you come, you get the gel, the rimming, heavenly HJs, usually very good BJs... just FS is a very rare exception. I had a great time with a 31 year old, classy looking girl in Akane soi 33 recently.
If the soapies in Japan give you the stuff that these Japanese porn movies show, and if you can actually get into a soapie and get this kind of service, then that alone would be a reason to go to Japan! Do they?
If the soapies in Japan give you the stuff that these Japanese porn movies show, and if you can actually get into a soapie and get this kind of service, then that alone would be a reason to go to Japan! Do they?... but you did ask.
I'm a regular visitor to Japan, but frankly now never bother with the 'fun' side. My sense is that if you aren't Japanese or at the very least speak passable Japanese, then you will not get into any of the best clubs. And if you do get in, you will pay an arm and a leg, and another arm, for a limited service.
I did go with one girl after a couple of cuties approached me in the street. The girl in the room however was not so cute and spoke very little English (she was Korean). I claimed confusion over the agreed price and ended up paying half what we had agreed. I can't remember how much but this was a year ago when Tokyo was just expensive, as opposed to unaffordable. Now I just save my money and spend it in Bangkok. Much better value.
I'm not saying you can't have fun in Japan, but personally I think it is just not worth the bother.
Chacantonio999
06-15-09, 18:01
Although the Brit was an arsehole....sucker punch and run away...then two kicks while your man was out...wankers spring to mind.
I would love two minutes in the ring with those three!Hahaha. Knocked that asshole brit out. Maybe he shouldn't be such a prick the next time he is in another country
Traveler1234
06-15-09, 18:17
Recently spent about a week in Bangkok... had lots of fun experiences which I thought I would include all together in one report.
Stew2 - you've become quite the expert since our meeting up at Giotto's two years back :)
Enjoyed reading your FR(s)....
Arrived Bangkok airport 7am, after dropping my bag off at Soi 11 citadines, made my way by BTS to Patpong II. Arrived Star of light. It was open and only two girls arrived though. Took advantage by getting both of them naked with me on the couch. Girls name were Pen and Rabbit. Both excellent oral skills. After 20 or so minutes blew a substantial wad in Rabbit's mouth. Both girls were cute and I would have fucked either of them no problem. Service was first rate. I stayed and had a couple beers with Pen afterwards. She is pretty cute. Spend 1600 baht or so.
2pm. Made my way down to soi 7/1. Never been to Eden before. Time to give it a try. European guy was very helpful but the left of the line was not very appealing. EVen the right of the line was only so-so. Picked the best from the right of the line. Let me get this straight, if you are new to mongering, the experience would be out of this world, but in truth, I have had better impromptu 3-somes in PI and HK. The service satisfied me, 2 shots, but it felt mechanical and I probably wouldn't return. Spend 3600 baht
9pm. Went to Nana Plaza. Rainbow 4. Just one beer. Number 41 looked very cute but she was on her way out.
Went to Spanky's. Barfined number 21(I think). Went up the escalator on the other side. New ST place. Hollywood Inn I think. Expensive at 400 baht ST, but nice rooms. Nice than upstairs on the other side anyway.
I have fucked this girl before and she is a great fuck. Bor, cute spinner type, small tits, braces, cute round face, tight little body. Her stamina is exceptional. She fucked me on top for a long time. We swapped and I came inside her in Mish. All in all a top class fuck. Spend 600 BF 1500 ST
Sunday. Had a look in to Beer Garden soi 7 at around 11am. Not much action. Chatted to the best looking girl there called Nan, took her number but it was turned off when I rang her later that day. Ah well.
Off to soi 26 at 12 noon. Angels. Picked Daw, nice looking girl, better than her photos. Large sexy tattoo on her back. Nice energetic fuck, went on for a long time, I finished on her tits. WOuld see her again. Good fuck. Spend 1900
8pm. Off to soi cowboy:
Shark. Quiet at this hour, not much on offer, left after 1 beer.
Rawhide. Picked a young girl who didn't speak much English. Da- bit of a tummy, small acne scars on her face, lovely pert titties. Went upstairs at the penny black next door. Not too bad but not cheap 450 B. Bar fine was 600 I think plus 1500ST.
Da started out quite shy, she was a bit body conscious with her face and small belly. But once warmed up she was actually my favourite fuck of the weekend. We fucked for nearly 2 hours on and off and I got a couple of shots in. She turned into a real GFE. SHe came quite easily and couldn't get enough dick in the end. I would BF her again definitely, probably LT next time.
After finished, went into Suzie Wong for the lesbian show and a couple more beers. Some nice girls in there. Then home to Soi 11 to bed and an early flight this morning.
Kamagra utilised on trip: 1.5 pills.
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I have a friend who recommended that I experience this restaurant. Looks like more of an Asian place how about for farangs? What are the costs and possibilities with the hostesses later . Any feedback appreciated.
Hahaha. Knocked that asshole brit out. Maybe he shouldn't be such a prick the next time he is in another country
That guy totally got what he deserved! Thais fight dirty! Gotta love it!
Member #4698
06-15-09, 20:51
We just need to ask for what we want, and just say no if we aren't going to get it, instead of thinking with the little head. Ask her if she BBBJ's and/or french kisses and/or likes sex. Most likely if she tells you no to 2 out of 3, you know what the experience is going to be like back in the hotel- just move on!This is very good advice. And I admit I let my guard down a little bit. I was on a winning streak throughout my trip to Cambodia and the BKK massage parlors so I just assumed I would get great service from this beautiful GO GO princess. We talked and she seemed very nice and friendly. Still I do not entirely regret my time with her. She was very very pretty and I rated the session a 5 out of ten. Everyone has had worse experiences.
When I am in a place like Amsterdam I always ask the girl what she will do in return for my 50eu. The time to negotiate is before you make the commitment.
Thing is, I had a trip to Frankfurt recently and went to an FKK club (The Palace), my tastes being what they are, I spent an afternoon banging mostly Thai chicks anyway.
I am not aware of any places like FKK in BKK but I sure wish I could hook up with Didi again without having to go to FRA to do so.
Hahaha. Knocked that asshole brit out. Maybe he shouldn't be such a prick the next time he is in another country I hope you never get attacked or mugged here! I have worked the doors a long time. And have developed a sense of fair play. I don't like to see cowards take advantage of assholes or not.
I had the misfortune of running into some trouble once whilst out with my wife. The difference was when I nailed this so called hard man the rest of his mates decided they had just changed friends. Question for you. Brit asshole. Have you a problem with the English?
...But that reminds me of a girl I met at Rose Bar in Pnomm Penh. A real honey. I’m still thinking about her and it has been 3 months. Now that petite little thing with her perfect little tities, her perfectly proportioned ass, and her tight pussy gave me hours of passionate sex – now that girl I wanted to go down on. But did not! Call me chicken shit or prudent, I don’t care.
OK, I'd call you "chicken shit" for that. :D
Hahaha. Knocked that asshole brit out. Maybe he shouldn't be such a prick the next time he is in another countryContinuing the fight theme, here are some dumb ass drunk Yanks causing problems in Samui. Getting a good kicking as well it seems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwrxMOLqB0
Very well written report, thanks, Stew2!! And the trade-off between very young and stunning versus around 30 and great provider is also quite real. My fav age right now is 27 ;)
Here you mean soapies in Japan, or Japan-themed soapies in Bangkok? Try out Akane next time you come, you get the gel, the rimming, heavenly HJs, usually very good BJs... just FS is a very rare exception. I had a great time with a 31 year old, classy looking girl in Akane soi 33 recently.
If the soapies in Japan give you the stuff that these Japanese porn movies show, and if you can actually get into a soapie and get this kind of service, then that alone would be a reason to go to Japan! Do they?
Thanks Centaurus - I actually meant the soapies in Japan. Much of that scene is not accessible to foreigners, but in the past when I experienced it, some was. Some is also extremely expensive, but not all. And, of course, not all offer the same level of great service. Nonetheless, the body rubbing on the mat part was always better in the soaps I went to in Japan...
next time I will check out Akane. Thanks for the tip!
Stew2 - you've become quite the expert since our meeting up at Giotto's two years back :)
Enjoyed reading your FR(s)....
Ha ha Traveler - right in every detail but one - perpetual amateur here, trying to learn a lesson or two along the way!
Didn't make it to Giotto's this time... maybe next trip!
Fast Eddie 48
06-16-09, 06:52
I have a friend who recommended that I experience this restaurant. Looks like more of an Asian place how about for farangs? What are the costs and possibilities with the hostesses later. Any feedback appreciated.Shagga,
There are 2 no hand place in Bangkok that I know of both are very expensive, Privilege No Hand Restaurant near nana and galaxy plaza no hand rama IV rd.
It cater for Chinese and local bussiness man, my customer bring me to Galaxy 8 yr ago 5 of us we each have 2 girl to service us, 5 course dinner and drink is 15,500 bht, there are a massage place and KTV in the complex also, no sure if the girl will go with customer didn't ask, they are old and average not good for eating.
Fast Eddie 48
Continuing the fight theme, here are some dumb ass drunk Yanks causing problems in Samui. Getting a good kicking as well it seems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwrxMOLqB0
Nice footage. I love seeing farang getting their asses kicked by Thais.
Hey all,
Just found out from the boss that I'm stopping in BKK for a day or 2 next week. I've read loads on all the forums here and am staying at a hotel near soi cowboy (which ironically work chose for me). But I've never been to Thailand before and will be on my own.
Thks for the wealth of information in all the posts. But if anyone can suggest anywhere to go that would be fantastic. In particular where's good for an early/mid afternoon 'session'. And what's the best chance if you are a fan of 'anal' pleasures.
I think the hotel I'm at is GF. But if you take someone from one of the gogo bars. Is it acceptable to take them back to the hotel
Cheers,
OZ
Wayne Roberts
06-16-09, 15:56
http://www.empflix.com/view.php?id=48409
One of the hottest thai women I have ever seen. Looks more Korean?
If this post not acceptable, my apologies
Traveler1234
06-16-09, 19:37
I've read loads on all the forums here ..... In particular where's good for an early/mid afternoon 'session'. And what's the best chance if you are a fan of 'anal' pleasures.
Go the massage threads, search "Eden" and "Tulips"
http://www.empflix.com/view.php?id=48409
One of the hottest thai women I have ever seen. Looks more Korean?
If this post not acceptable, my apologiesShe is super hot. Do you know anything about her?
Nice footage. I love seeing farang getting their asses kicked by Thais.Why is that then.? Funny thing really. When I lived in the UK I never see this phenomena before. Thais kicking Farang asses. Wonder why? . Maybe it could be the fact there weren't thirty of his mates behind him.
Why is that then.? Funny thing really. When I lived in the UK I never see this phenomena before. Thais kicking Farang asses. Wonder why? . Maybe it could be the fact there weren't thirty of his mates behind him.
Exactly my point. It's like a giant chaotic frenzy. They come out of the woodwork! It's quite humorous to watch.
Now here is the thing.. Who is responsible for such poor service? I blame management. Therefore, the bar is responsible for the service the girl provides or does not provide. If I owned one of these bars, you better believe, I would make sure all my girls provided the best service imaginable. I would ask my customers for feedback or send in friends incognito to sample the girls and make sure everything is top notch.
I generally agree but can imagine that trying to maintain quality control would be a nightmare. You would spend a lifetime having to deal with annoyed customers who wanted their barfine back. But - ya if I was an owner of a go-go bar I would make sure that every girl knew she had to do the basics - kiss, uncovered smoke and covered boom-boom - and if customers came back saying they didn't do so they would be fined or fired. As to level of enthusiasm that is a bit difficult to measure. I would also tell the girls to try showing a little personality on stage and try making eye contact. This is really for their benefit as well as they would get repeat customers. And being a conoisseur of the good smoke I would have new girls trained by girls who really know their buisness. I think if a go-go bar got a reputation as providing good service from all the girls by mgt decree it would do really well. I have had such a high pct of mediocre experiences with Bangkok go-go girls (as opposed to Pattaya ones where they are almost always good) that I have become gun shy and just stick with freelancers. I'd rather go down a notch or two in looks and have a great time than just do a trophy screw that I know will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. I am at the age now that I need some feedback from the girls - a girl no matter how beautiful that lies there like a piece of plywood just doesn't do it for me any more.
I generally agree but can imagine that trying to maintain quality control would be a nightmare. You would spend a lifetime having to deal with annoyed customers who wanted their barfine back. But - ya if I was an owner of a go-go bar I would make sure that every girl knew she had to do the basics - kiss, uncovered smoke and covered boom-boom - and if customers came back saying they didn't do so they would be fined or fired. As to level of enthusiasm that is a bit difficult to measure. I would also tell the girls to try showing a little personality on stage and try making eye contact. This is really for their benefit as well as they would get repeat customers. And being a conoisseur of the good smoke I would have new girls trained by girls who really know their buisness. I think if a go-go bar got a reputation as providing good service from all the girls by mgt decree it would do really well. I have had such a high pct of mediocre experiences with Bangkok go-go girls (as opposed to Pattaya ones where they are almost always good) that I have become gun shy and just stick with freelancers. I'd rather go down a notch or two in looks and have a great time than just do a trophy screw that I know will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. I am at the age now that I need some feedback from the girls - a girl no matter how beautiful that lies there like a piece of plywood just doesn't do it for me any more.
You should open a bar and see how long you can keep up with your ideas of a good bar. There will be complaining mongers even if you run a decent bar. Girls will complain also.
The whole concept of adult entertainment is making customers part with their money by promising a lot and delivering less. The girls also do not want any damage to their body because they know the desirability will be short time span.
Try giving a decent drink , not watered down drink. Your liquor bill will be sky high. Only casinoes can do this.
Member #4698
06-17-09, 18:20
I generally agree but can imagine that trying to maintain quality control would be a nightmare.I did not say it would be easy. This is a business and it takes hard work, know how, and the right incentives in place to get things rolling smoothly.
You would spend a lifetime having to deal with annoyed customers who wanted their barfine back.Again it takes a certain talent – a genius if you will for separating out outrageous unwarranted customer demands from reasonable complaints. All good restaurant and hotel managers possess this skill.
But. Ya if I was an owner of a go-go bar I would make sure that every girl knew she had to do the basics. Kiss, uncovered smoke and covered boom-boom. And if customers came back saying they didn't do so they would be fined or fired.I would say that if a girl received more than 3 complaints per month she should be penalized. What about my idea to send in friends incognito and tell the owner who did and who did not deliver the goods. And the bar should provide the right incentives (benefits/compensation packages) so that the last thing a girl would want is to be fired and have to work somewhere else.
I would also tell the girls to try showing a little personality on stage and try making eye contact. This is really for their benefit as well as they would get repeat customers. And being a connoisseur of the good smoke I would have new girls trained by girls who really know their business. I think if a go-go bar got a reputation as providing good service from all the girls by mgt decree it would do really well.This is key: "if a go-go bar got a reputation as providing good service from all the girls by mgt decree it would do really well". This is one of my main points and why I submitted my report in the first place.
And this is more or less my second main point:
I have had such a high pct of mediocre experiences with Bangkok go-go girls (as opposed to Pattaya ones where they are almost always good) that I have become gun shy and just stick with freelancers. I'd rather go down a notch or two in looks and have a great time than just do a trophy screw that I know will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. I am at the age now that I need some feedback from the girls. A girl no matter how beautiful that lies there like a piece of plywood just doesn't do it for me anymore.I don’t want to go down a level in the looks department, but more and more I visit the massage parlors where the level of performance is higher and more consistent. On my next trip to BKK I will spend most of my fooling around time with massage girls. Next, I plan to delve deeper into the hostess bar scene. There are hundreds of little hostess bars up and down the soi’s off Sukumvit like soi 33 + soi 22. I want to find a couple of really good ones. Last, I will still go to a few Go Go’s. I have not completely written them off. Sometimes I like going to them, getting a couple of beers, and watching the girls. And if I see a girl that really appeals to me I will buy her a drink, talk to her and maybe take her out.
In ’89, ’92, and ‘96 100% of my exploits took place in Go Gos. Today that percentage is down to 20-25%. It’s just my opinion but that should tell you something about the state of BKK Go Go’s 2009.
P. S. Anybody remember tha Ben Gazzara movie from the 80's where he ran a brothel in the Philippines. "Saint Jack". Pretty cool movie.
I have had such a high pct of mediocre experiences with Bangkok go-go girls (as opposed to Pattaya ones where they are almost always good) that I have become gun shy and just stick with freelancers. I'd rather go down a notch or two in looks and have a great time than just do a trophy screw that I know will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.
You're not the only one! Why is it that bkk bar girls suck in bed? Is it because of all the 3-3-3's in town? Do the girls think they are the s**** becuase they are working in bkk? Is it because they get away with collecting outrageous fees from newbie mongers who just got to bkk and need to blow their wads?
Which is why "long stay" farangs in Bangkok always use Massage places.
You get to choose from a photo book or line up. You choose when you are sober. If you do not like the girl you can change her. You get showered before and after in the place itself.
The price is fixed at 1500B.
You pay the money and you walk out fucked and showered and feeling good.
You can enjoy your evening without "beer goggles" on desperatly searching for a girl to take home before you pass out. You get to sleep when you want to and wake up when you want to, eat breakfast when you want to and do what you want in the morning. You do not have to worry about anything being stolen in the room, or her guzzling your minibar.
Go massage, its where the sensible people go, and us crazy ones too.
I generally agree but can imagine that trying to maintain quality control would be a nightmare. You would spend a lifetime having to deal with annoyed customers who wanted their barfine back. But - ya if I was an owner of a go-go bar I would make sure that every girl knew she had to do the basics - kiss, uncovered smoke and covered boom-boom - and if customers came back saying they didn't do so they would be fined or fired. As to level of enthusiasm that is a bit difficult to measure. I would also tell the girls to try showing a little personality on stage and try making eye contact. This is really for their benefit as well as they would get repeat customers. And being a conoisseur of the good smoke I would have new girls trained by girls who really know their buisness. I think if a go-go bar got a reputation as providing good service from all the girls by mgt decree it would do really well. I have had such a high pct of mediocre experiences with Bangkok go-go girls (as opposed to Pattaya ones where they are almost always good) that I have become gun shy and just stick with freelancers. I'd rather go down a notch or two in looks and have a great time than just do a trophy screw that I know will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. I am at the age now that I need some feedback from the girls - a girl no matter how beautiful that lies there like a piece of plywood just doesn't do it for me any more.
Go massage, its where the sensible people go, and us crazy ones too.
I don't disagree with you, and I do find myself going to those places more and more inspite of the high price, but there is one huge drawback: The girl's vaginas are always pretty 'saap' - they have sex too much and thus are easily irritated. So a real vigorous wet bang is very rare in a massage parlour, in my experience.
I don't disagree with you, and I do find myself going to those places more and more inspite of the high price, but there is one huge drawback: The girl's vaginas are always pretty 'saap' - they have sex too much and thus are easily irritated. So a real vigorous wet bang is very rare in a massage parlour, in my experience.
I agree. Pussies are very dry and the girls are rarely excited, but the service is usually very good.
which is why "long stay" farangs in bangkok always use massage places.
you get to choose from a photo book or line up. you choose when you are sober. if you do not like the girl you can change her. you get showered before and after in the place itself.
the price is fixed at 1500b.
you pay the money and you walk out fucked and showered and feeling good.
you can enjoy your evening without "beer goggles" on desperatly searching for a girl to take home before you pass out. you get to sleep when you want to and wake up when you want to, eat breakfast when you want to and do what you want in the morning. you do not have to worry about anything being stolen in the room, or her guzzling your minibar.
go massage, its where the sensible people go, and us crazy ones too.while somewhat trite. my thinking is you don't pay for the sex, you pay to have her leave. love los, having just returned to the states after a short visit, my eighth or ninth i think. tried [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for the first time. now this is my cup of tea.$20 bucks for a no questions/complications asked bbbj from a really cute 18 y. o. girl at 4:30 in the afternoon while drinking a beer. problem? no problem!
JesseJames
06-19-09, 17:32
Which is why "long stay" farangs in Bangkok always use Massage places.
You get to choose from a photo book or line up. You choose when you are sober. If you do not like the girl you can change her. You get showered before and after in the place itself.
The price is fixed at 1500B.
You pay the money and you walk out fucked and showered and feeling good.
You can enjoy your evening without "beer goggles" on desperatly searching for a girl to take home before you pass out. You get to sleep when you want to and wake up when you want to, eat breakfast when you want to and do what you want in the morning. You do not have to worry about anything being stolen in the room, or her guzzling your minibar.
Go massage, its where the sensible people go, and us crazy ones too.
Or you can make a choice of being a handicapped drunk, passing out, or clear thinking monger.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]When I got back to BKK, I first went to Thonlor
So it has come to this: I can’t rely on getting a quality session at Rainbow bars. I have been frequenting Go Go’s since my first visit to BKK in 1989. On other visits to Rainbow, I have had very good experiences, but it has become hit or miss. Now, you can always get a dud now and then no matter where you go, but considering the prices and these statistics, I have come to the conclusion that oily massage + soapy massage parlors are the way to go. I still drop by Nana and Cowboy for a drink, and I still take girls out occasionally, but these days 80% of my business goes to the massage parlors.
Conclusion:
Rainbow 4 – this bar has the best selection of good looking girls in Nana. The bar rocks and service in the bar is amazing. Take out service is hit or miss. Take your chances.
Tar – a sad little princess. Face 9.5. Body 9.5 Pussy 5.0 (was a tad larger than I prefer). Service 4.
In almost all of the majority Thai visited massage parlors, you will have an A experience 90% of the time or more...the gals there are told by the managers what is expected and what customers want, and they provide, otherwise, they wouldn't be working there...from what i have been told by the gals too, the conditions are far better than working in the gogos...i stopped with go gos a long long time ago...at minimum, absolute minimum of 1500 baht ST (in a crappy 3-400B ST room if it is on premises), plus another 600 bar fine, plus at least one lady drink and one customer drink, you have already spent far more than anything even some of the top class massage places offer....if you want conversation, stick to the freelancers, and there certainly are tons of freelancers who look on par with go go gals if one makes the effort, or else hit the massage joints..i'd be all in favor of a go go boycott
I agree. Pussies are very dry and the girls are rarely excited, but the service is usually very good.
I won't go so far as to say those two characterizations are mutually exclusive, but I have come to expect excitement and wet pussies due to frequenting mostly beach road freelancers for years (however freelancers in Bangkok are mostly in my experience no good, particularly for the price).
I agree. Pussies are very dry and the girls are rarely excited, but the service is usually very good.The pussies are dry because the soapy girls shower and take baths all day long.
Hello,
first of all let me apologize for this post. I know this just sounds ignorant, I know as a senior member I should take my time to do proper research instead of just asking this question, but I just got booked for tomorrow for one night in BK. My first one (am familiar with SH, Seoul, TP, SP and others). As I am travelling alone, don't know anything about BK and have no time left to RTFF before my flight I just need a little newbie help to find action:
- What is the process in the go go bars? Which is the best? Where is it?
- Which is the recommended MP and again where to find?
- Maybe there are any newbie posts you can recommend?
I am staying in the SIAM CITY HOTEL BANGKOK and are looking for beautiful companion for the night even if more expensive. Also considered escort but I am not sure if there is real need or if I can easily find action by myself.
For comparison: In SH I prefer Saunas, in Seoul Room Salons...
Thanks a lot and I will of course report on my experience!
If it were me I would forgo the go go bars and go to soi 33 of sumkumvit. Many things to do on the street, but no go go bars. Check out the Artists bars, the office or Livingstones bar. These are hostess bars. There are some massage parlors on the street also. I am sure you can go to Cowboy ad find something but I don't think the quality is there compared to Soi 33.
Anyway good luck. Prices are higher on Soi 33 than cowboy or Nana ** which is going down hill fast(
If it were me I would forgo the go go bars and go to soi 33 of sumkumvit. Many things to do on the street, but no go go bars. Check out the Artists bars, the office or Livingstones bar. These are hostess bars. There are some massage parlors on the street also. I am sure you can go to Cowboy ad find something but I don't think the quality is there compared to Soi 33.
Anyway good luck. Prices are higher on Soi 33 than cowboy or Nana ** which is going down hill fast (Agreed that 33 is a good option for one night. Maybe Novotel or Spasso also if you prefer FL.
Happy hunting.
Autumn Lover
06-20-09, 07:56
I was in Soi 33 in late May. For two nights running I tried, and on both all artist bars, Office etc were dead. Barely any customers, and few girls. Found one lovely though who spent a few days with me. She said it was the same most nights.
Office was a favourite of mine. Non-pushy, generally attractive girls that didn't look the working girl part when you took them out. And sport on the TVs. But, alas, it was barely worth walking in this time.
Guess it's just a matter of time before things pick up again, but let's hope it's sooner rather than later.
Soi Cowboy was, however, heaving as usual.
AL
Member #3428
06-20-09, 08:41
I was in Soi 33 in late May.
Watch some of the 33 bars, some are known to pad the bill, add extra drinks, girls get drinks which you did not agree to. There was a list before posted that listed a few to watch, I know I never had a problem at Powleys, Office or LL with the bar bills.
Some others I had massive problems with before.
Thanks for this, I am boarding the plane now. I hope I can find these places easily... More is of course welcome! (also as PM)
Joyo
You sounds like a guy, who just have to walk in to one the go-go's in Cowboy, Nana or Patpong, make your pick, talk a little bit to see if you think she's gonna give you what you want, and find your hotel together.
You can find the places on the maps.
Good luck, my friend
Watch some of the 33 bars, some are known to pad the bill, add extra drinks, girls get drinks which you did not agree to. There was a list before posted that listed a few to watch, I know I never had a problem at Powleys, Office or LL with the bar bills.
Some others I had massive problems with before.
If you are concerned with the joint padding the bill, why not just pay for each round as you get it. It may be a little more inconvenient, but it sure beats paying over the odds for drinks you don't get or didn't order.
I realise that this is a little obvious, but sometimes it needs to be reminded. I totally enjoyed my time at the end of last year in Bangkok and Pattaya but always kept a close eye on the tabs and paid as I went. Admittedly a bit more difficult when you're pissed and horny . . .
Just my 2c
Cheers
Expatcat
Member #3428
06-21-09, 03:04
If you are concerned with the joint padding the bill, why not just pay for each round as you get it. It may be a little more inconvenient, but it sure beats paying over the odds for drinks you don't get or didn't order.
Well that's obvious... I've been going to Soi 33 for many years and just warned him which ones were usually / mostly / always for me on the up and up without coming out and publicly bashing places like Renoir and others... where I've had them try to play multiple games on the bills.
If you are concerned with the joint padding the bill, why not just pay for each round as you get it. It may be a little more inconvenient, but it sure beats paying over the odds for drinks you don't get or didn't order.
I realise that this is a little obvious, but sometimes it needs to be reminded. I totally enjoyed my time at the end of last year in Bangkok and Pattaya but always kept a close eye on the tabs and paid as I went. Admittedly a bit more difficult when you're pissed and horny . . .
Just my 2c
Cheers
Expatcat
Before the food, beverage or service is served/rendered get a price. These people will demand 700bht on the bill in the end for a plate of stir fried vegetables you asked to accompany the 300bht red snapper you just got weighed&priced out of the tank. I had them once try to charge me the equiv of $20USD for a manicure for the pooying du jour on the beach at jomtien because I did not ask up front. I paid for the vegtables but not the manicure. Offered them 200 bht or nothing and there were no cops around so I skated for NOTHING. NEVER EAT ON SUK, because a fancy restauant is cheaper and the hoze and street rif raf will work you. The ho will order a 300bht bacardi cooler and you will end up with a $30USD bill for a shit meal and a couple of drinks. Better to ditch the gash and eat at Foodland alone. NEVER CLOSE A CAB DOOR, unless you know the driver can sah-peak angrit and acknowleges he knows where you want go go and the meter is running.
HOWEVER, if the dude is on the level, I will pay double fare sometimes if it is a long ride in traffic (usually the case). The deaf aholes selling phony art on suk will point to their mouths for food after you buy art. I point at my groin while smiling and nodding. These people look at generosity as a weakness.
Before the food, beverage or service is served/rendered get a price. These people will demand 700bht on the bill in the end for a plate of stir fried vegetables you asked to accompany the 300bht red snapper you just got weighed&priced out of the tank. I had them once try to charge me the equiv of $20USD for a manicure for the pooying du jour on the beach at jomtien because I did not ask up front. I paid for the vegtables but not the manicure. Offered them 200 bht or nothing and there were no cops around so I skated for NOTHING. NEVER EAT ON SUK, because a fancy restauant is cheaper and the hoze and street rif raf will work you. The ho will order a 300bht bacardi cooler and you will end up with a $30USD bill for a shit meal and a couple of drinks. Better to ditch the gash and eat at Foodland alone. NEVER CLOSE A CAB DOOR, unless you know the driver can sah-peak angrit and acknowleges he knows where you want go go and the meter is running.
HOWEVER, if the dude is on the level, I will pay double fare sometimes if it is a long ride in traffic (usually the case). The deaf aholes selling phony art on suk will point to their mouths for food after you buy art. I point at my groin while smiling and nodding. These people look at generosity as a weakness.Only ever once got ripped off for a meal, and only occasionally attempted overcharges by taxis. But then I am usually with a girl, and always keep a smile and my wits about me, and never think in terms of: "ditch the gash", "hoze", "street rif raf", "deaf aholes", "shit meals" and "generosity as weakness".
Somehow I feel the better for it.
Only ever once got ripped off for a meal, and only occasionally attempted overcharges by taxis. But then I am usually with a girl, and always keep a smile and my wits about me, and never think in terms of: "ditch the gash", "hoze", "street rif raf", "deaf aholes", "shit meals" and "generosity as weakness".
Somehow I feel the better for it.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that feels the same way you do.
Cheers
Member #4199
06-22-09, 20:57
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that feels the same way you do.
Cheers
Fully agree David2 and Mouse1. You win some, you lose some but a laughter and bit of understanding of how much people can earn can go a long way. The same applies around the world. Worth trying for but not always easy. Sanuk, mai pen rai and khai na have real meaning in Thai attitudes. One girl I spent time with oked that Nana Plaza is named for the "na na" ("thick-skinned") farangs, to whom face means little.
SO8
Before the food, beverage or service is served/rendered get a price. These people will demand 700bht on the bill in the end for a plate of stir fried vegetables you asked to accompany the 300bht red snapper you just got weighed&priced out of the tank. I had them once try to charge me the equiv of $20USD for a manicure for the pooying du jour on the beach at jomtien because I did not ask up front. I paid for the vegtables but not the manicure. Offered them 200 bht or nothing and there were no cops around so I skated for NOTHING. NEVER EAT ON SUK, because a fancy restauant is cheaper and the hoze and street rif raf will work you. The ho will order a 300bht bacardi cooler and you will end up with a $30USD bill for a shit meal and a couple of drinks. Better to ditch the gash and eat at Foodland alone. NEVER CLOSE A CAB DOOR, unless you know the driver can sah-peak angrit and acknowleges he knows where you want go go and the meter is running. HOWEVER, if the dude is on the level, I will pay double fare sometimes if it is a long ride in traffic (usually the case). The deaf aholes selling phony art on suk will point to their mouths for food after you buy art. I point at my groin while smiling and nodding. These people look at generosity as a weakness.Some good advice there, senor. The crack about the groin is too funny. LOL
Nice footage. I love seeing farang getting their asses kicked by Thais.
Hmm, I wonder why a jek twat would like to see white guys beaten up. . . I've seen Thais get thumped badly by farangs- once saw an Israeli guy pick up and piledrive headfirst into the concrete a dumbass Thai who believed too deeply in his magical Muay Thai powers. It is never pretty to see someone, even an idiot, get badly injured (unless maybe you are a typically racist jek with a physical inferiority complex re white guys), but for newbies on the board the moral of that story (and of the video of the assholes getting thumped outside a Burger King in Samui- by the way, those responsible for bringing Burger King and other fast-food slop to Thailand should also get clobbered) is this: if you get into a physical altercation (and please try not to) with a Thai end it quickly if you can, because if you don't nearly every Thai male in the vicinity (and apparently otherwise cowardly jeks, too) will be looking to get the boot in on the farang. They won't know and won't care who is right or wrong. It is something every farang should see at least once, just so you can appreciate how the local boys really feel about the farang.
It is something every farang should see at least once, just so you can appreciate how the local boys really feel about the farang.
To be fair, I've been at a party upcountry where some local boys were having a good time. I didn't notice anything different, but sometime after midnight the Thai lady I'm with frowns -- though the smiles and voices were the same, something bad was said. The next minute, the local boys have polarised into two sides, one guy is down, hit with a broken bottle, and being stomped into the ground. Another minute, and everyone vanishes into the night on their scooters, one side taking along stomped guy, who is now unconscious.
So I wouldn't feel particularly singled out, as farang, for whatever that is worth.
Some good advice there, senor. The crack about the groin is too funny. LOLYes, absolutely hilarious. Worthy of Benny Hill himself.
To be fair, I've been at a party upcountry where some local boys were having a good time. I didn't notice anything different, but sometime after midnight the Thai lady I'm with frowns -- though the smiles and voices were the same, something bad was said. The next minute, the local boys have polarised into two sides, one guy is down, hit with a broken bottle, and being stomped into the ground. Another minute, and everyone vanishes into the night on their scooters, one side taking along stomped guy, who is now unconscious.
So I wouldn't feel particularly singled out, as farang, for whatever that is worth.
Oh, absolutely, Thais will treat Thai adversaries with a similar lack of chivalry. The thing the farang has to understand is that unless he has some Thai mates with him, he is liable to find out that he is lined up on his own against every Thai in a 50-meter radius, unless there is a cop feeling an unusually strong sense of civic duty in the area. Fighting with the locals should be avoided, as frustrating as it can be to stand down when, for example, you see some Thai geezer smacking a girl around.
Hmm, I wonder why a jek twat would like to see white guys beaten up. . . It is never pretty to see someone, even an idiot, get badly injured
Because if your stupid enough to take on a thai, and the rest of the gang, then you deserve to get your ass kicked.
It is never pretty to see someone, even an idiot, get badly injured
That's your opinion. I enjoy watching it, however.
Every Farang I've seen get beat up by a Thai in Thailand always provoked it!
Every Farang I've seen get beat up by a Thai in Thailand always provoked it!That's the key to all of this. You really have to go looking for trouble in Thailand to find it! Of course, the dodgy places in TH tend to attract dodgy people (Thai and farang).
I've traveled all over Thailand the past few years and never had a problem with anyone. Occasionally, in tourist areas I get a little frustrated with touts, but I just remind myself they're only trying to make a baht and ignore them. And, when I drink in bars, due to years of practice, I don't become obnoxious.
Ever think that there are idiots out there (in TH) that provoke trouble just to capture it on video to post on YouTube? Never underestimate the *******es of the world.
That's your opinion. I enjoy watching it, however.
Every Farang I've seen get beat up by a Thai in Thailand always provoked it!You enjoy watching people get beaten up...sideline fighter are you? You quote "farang" as though you are ? what? Are you Thai? or are you one of those that thinks "farang" means white skin? How many "farangs" have you seen beaten up?
You enjoy watching people get beaten up...sideline fighter are you? You quote "farang" as though you are ? what? Are you Thai? or are you one of those that thinks "farang" means white skin? How many "farangs" have you seen beaten up?
Yawn!!!
Yep, I enjoy watching boxing and UFC also. I've seen dozens of farang get their asses kicked by Thais. Anyhow, this conversation is meaningless. Let's talk about getting laid which is more important. Back on topic - 500ST for a walking street hook in Pat last night. Low season is here so bargains are to be had!
or are you one of those that thinks "farang" means white skin?Well basically it does. The Thais have other words for foreigners of other colors.
But enough of the fight club stuff already.
Rubberyman
06-24-09, 13:34
Just a short TR-ette.
Am in BKK for a couple of days in transit to Pattaya.
Went to Annies near Nana entertainment centre. 2 hrs 1700B + 800 for the lady. Can'tremember the name, but her number was 10. Good two hour service, BBBJ, CFS massage. She was very pretty and worked hard. She was 22 but looked younger. She kept pointing to the aircon which had 22 on it and giggled when coming up for air.
Beers about 75-100 round town.
Meals in the restaurants around Nana about 200-300B
Hotel Zenith at 2600 B incl breakfast - but not girl friendly. Not important to me since I prefer incall in Thailand. (And outcall from the bars in Phils).
Off to Pattaya tomorrow. Any major price variations from six months ago? BKK seems a little more expensive than last time here imo.
I would like to ask all the guys who have visited Bangkok's massage parlors (Annies,Tulip,Hi-Class etc), how many times are you allowed to "finish" with the girl in the 1 or 2 hours that you have to spend with her?
Yawn!
Yep, I enjoy watching boxing and UFC also. I've seen dozens of farang get their asses kicked by Thais. Anyhow, this conversation is meaningless. Let's talk about getting laid which is more important. Back on topic. 500ST for a walking street hook in Pat last night. Low season is here so bargains are to be had! Fucking Yawn! Too.
You were on about street fighting. Anyway! Yes back to why we are here. Was at the gym last night. Got a really dirty 3 hour session
Afterwards. BBBJ. DATY. RIM. CIM. Guess what. All for free. Um. Can't be bad. Low season. Ha. Must be low season every day!
BTW. What did the 500 ST look like?
Well basically it does. The Thais have other words for foreigners of other colors.
But enough of the fight club stuff already.Many of my friends. Thai. As well as my wife. Call all foreigners Farang. Regardless of colour. Basically!
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