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If you are a cheap charlie use the MTS and get off on the Petchaburi station and walk east on Petchaburi Rd.
Now that's service - coordinates. Nice.
What if I'm not a cheap charlie... taxi?
Hm. What's nice about being on foot is the ability to take a better look, or a 2nd one. If in a taxi, you can't really back up. One pass, that's all you get. Getting a 2nd look means going all the way around the block, by which time the one you spotted might be gone.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Not one thai girl wore jeans, all wore skirts and were dressed to go out on the town. On this nite, 10X better than Nana every nite.
Nana parking lot doesn't interest me, but this line up certainly got my attention.
Don't know the street names, but take Asoke past Soi Cowboy and make a right before the expressway, most taxi drivers should know about this spot.
Sounds worth a look, surely. And it'd be good to get the name in Thai script to let the taxi driver know where you want to go. I'm not asking you for that, just imagining what'd be ideal.
Thanks for the post and the clear pictures. I would make sure that I would not pick up any of the girl in your reports in my future mongering nights-as they would do bareback with customers. This is an extremely high risk group.People are way too paranoid about this HIV/AIDS bs. If the man wants to do bbfs with a lady then that's his choice and it's really none of your business. Don't try to force your views upon other people in anyway either.
What was the name of a ST Hotel near Beer Garden?Sorry didn't get the name of the ST Hotel, when we came out of the Beer Garden soi onto Suk we walked left it was a short stroll to the hotel. Sorry can't give you any more detail than that.
Sounds worth a look, surely. And it'd be good to get the name in Thai script to let the taxi driver know where you want to go. I'm not asking you for that, just imagining what'd be ideal.
the place has been around forever, i've been there several times, always felt that the girls were far more business oriented, not so interested in chatting, just want to go or not go..it's 1500 baht, and they only want to go ST nearby (which is what the former Siam Hotel used to be for)...if you walk, you will be a novelty, as it is only Thais there, the guys stop by in their cars, roll down the window, and choose...would be pretty funny to get a whole convoy of farangs to go up and walk down the strip...
the place has been around forever, i've been there several times, always felt that the girls were far more business oriented, not so interested in chatting, just want to go or not go..it's 1500 baht, and they only want to go ST nearby
Didn't realize this was such an unknown area. You can get some of the girls to go to your hotel but they want more money. Most of them only want to go to the ST hotels in that area as you said. The last time I went by there and wanted to pick one up, she agreed to go to my place but only if I took her friend too.
. . . an old fave go-go bar - Five Star, with the 70s heavy rock live Thai band.My god, I used to love this place. Delighted to hear it's still good.
But I am surprised to hear that Tilac was boring. I did a pretty comprehensive sweep of the street last month and it was head and shoulders above anywhere else. Which surprised me a bit, since I never much liked it before. I guess it's just further proof that these places can change almost night by night . . .
My god, I used to love this place. Delighted to hear it's still good.
But I am surprised to hear that Tilac was boring. I did a pretty comprehensive sweep of the street last month and it was head and shoulders above anywhere else. Which surprised me a bit, since I never much liked it before. I guess it's just further proof that these places can change almost night by night . . .
Far too many coyotes and disinterested girls for Tilac to be interesting.
FreebieFan
08-17-09, 03:01
Just had my first BKK trip in a year and had a wonderful time.
Have always been a fan of freebies, so for this trip tried to make sure I wouldn't end up on the streets looking for action.
Priot to trip been chatting to a lady who works in Paragon mall and we seemed to get on fine and she had agreed to take off work early to meet me, as soom as I arrived in my hotel on Thursday night. Mid 30's, no baby and slim.
I check in, and shes there in lobby and we go upstairs to my room. I really wasnt sure if it was a definate thing, but I took shower and came out in bathtowel and sat with her. Figuring she would play or run away.
Well she was ready to play. So within 90 minutes of getting off plane, and within 15 minutes of getting to room, she has her hand on my dick and were up and running. Had a nice session with her that took two hours.
She had said she couldn't stay the night " oh honey, thats a shame LOL". And she went off home to her sister. Not one cent in cost.
Then I went off to see a long time massage lady I know. Shes always delighted to see me, and sure enough shes happy to offer extra. Well two comes in 2 hours is pushing it for me but I managed.
Then wandered down Sukhumvit, but the street ladies really looked bad. Went to Cowboy and somehow couldn't get into it. Noticed that drinks prices have gone up now. Was Bht 100 a year ago.
Went to Nana and to be honest, the girls there looked old, strange, and totally lack enthusiasm for their job. I know there are many comparisons with Philippines and Thailand made but on this nights offering, girls from Phils win every time for their dancing enthusiasm.
Anyways home and up early next day for work.
Had arranged for my other chat mate to come visit me from a northern city. Did my work, and had time to meet Natasha. Tall slim, exotic, not a beauty but has some style about her. Met her on last trip thru DIA, so we met to catch up on the news in a Starbux. She tells me shes met 141 men thu DIA (didn't tell me how many bedded LOL). Tell me shes always amazed when a guy calls and says " Hi its me David. She says how would I know which one, theres 27 Davids I've met.! " Anyways fun chat. From there went to Biergarten to have a look and relax. Chat with a few but I've got an eye on time knowing Ms Chat will arrive soon from airport. Back to hotel, and she gets out taxi and meet her in lobby. Now before she had agreed to come she'd asked whether we would have sex. Duh, yes honey. Anyways she'd shown some hesitation during chats about sex, so I figured if no sex I could always go out and find it. Always a gamble with chat mates that you have never met before.
Anyways, she enters hotel, has big smile, (early 30's 42 kg). In elevator she palyfully smacks my butt, says we won't have sex and winks.
We go have a glass or two of wine in hotel, go back to room, and boom boom. So nice. So both chatmates must have been horny LOL.
From there had great night in Suan Lum drinking, then went to Patpong drinking and dancing. More sex. Bed at 4am.
Next day, work in morning, sex in afternoon, then out to nice Thai restaurant, then Hard Rock, then Bangkok Beat in Sukhumvit for dancing.
Hard rock was full of old Americans and American type girls. Very few Thais and expensive drinks.
Back to room by 3am, and sleep by 5. Am too old for this!
Next day, we had late breeakfast, and went bowling. Good fun. Winner got to decide what sex game to play with loser. I lost. But still won if you know what I mean. She came with me to airport. Said goodbye and I flew home to have much needed sleep. Maybe will take her on another trip one of these days.
Its always good to be visiting BKK. But fear I can't find a valid reason to go for another year. We all know how wives are when we say. " Honey I don't want to but I've got to go to BKK on business!
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Lover Boy #2
08-17-09, 07:01
I've been living in Rangsit for a little over a year and had to travel to BKK for action until today. Today I found a great massage/restaurant that can compete with any of the establishments in Bangkok as far as the quality and quantity of the girls are concern. On top of that the prices are way lower for food, drinks, and the girls than Bangkok. I was getting tired of payment 150B for a drink at some of the Bkk go-go bars.
So for expats living a little north of the city ( Rangsit) there's hope.
Happy hunting
Can you elaborate further.....such as the name and location of the establishment and the pricing schedule?....thanks.
FreebieFan
08-17-09, 08:19
Great story...made me laugh!
DIA?Date in asia. Asia's Number 1 free pick up site. I wished they had had such a site when I was young and handsome. Last year.
Did a bit of bar-hopping with 1Ball and Giotto a couple of nights ago, checking out mainly live-band places round Sukhumvit. I noticed around the Soi 5 to Soi 7 area there were many African WGs. But what a small world! - I bumped into an old favorite skinny African girl from Dubai (with disproportionately huge knockers), sitting with a Thai girl outside Bangkok Beat Club. I first met her in a Dubai club a few years ago, and took her home a few times, until she started getting clingy. When we saw each other two nights ago in BKK we were shocked, and both laughed and said at the same time "What are you doing here?!!" A couple of guys (who must have been away for a moment) turned up and sat at her table and looked at me suspiciously. I said "Don't worry, I know this young lady from Dubai for a long time - she's my ex-Wife!" Ex-wife laughed, but the guys just looked at me confused and a bit pissed, so I bid my farewells and went back into the club to join my partners in crime.
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Grace Hotel - So-called "Turkish" girls.
Since we were near Soi 3, we checked out the infamous Grace Hotel - still the favorite place for Arabs to stay, so I felt at home. :) We checked out the disco briefly - full of Arabesque Uzbeki girls - some old and ugly, some young and cute. They pretend to be Middle-Eastern to attract Arab guys. I chatted with group of about 6 girls, asking if they were Uzbeki. They said no - they are from Turkiya (the Uzbeki pronunciation of 'Turkey'). I switched into my basic Turkish, but they didn't understand Turkish. So I asked in Russian "Skolka stoyeet?" ("What is your price?") They looked at each other and giggled. They are Uzbeki.
Their opening price was 3000ST, but when I countered with 2000, they dropped to 2500 immediately. It was early in the night - I'm sure they would go for 2000 and maybe even 1500 later. So, if you're ever in the mood for a non-Thai girl for a bit of variety, check it out.
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We three stooges moved onto another bar or three, before Giotto headed back to the Lodge, and 1Ball and I made trouble for the night with various girls. I arrived in Pattaya 1:00am this morning, but only managed a stroll down Beach Road and Walking Street and back to the hotel - I'm just about recovered from the late night with the chubby girl working at the Sukhumvit street-stall yesterday. I was checking the photos, and I'm still trying to work out how a buck-naked 1Ball and his girl ended up in my room. And I'm still wondering about the photos of 1Ball getting a BBBJ from my drink-stall girl. I don't remember that happening - and I'm the one who took the damn photos! My head still hurts. :confused:
(PS - I think I actually had food-poisoning rather than a killer hang-over - I ate 30 oysters in a container from a street stall at 3:00am - not a good idea)
Freebefan's report makes the mouth water
Couldn't make sense of DIA though.
And I'm still wondering about the photos of 1Ball getting a BBBJ from my drink-stall girl. I don't remember that happening - and I'm the one who took the damn photos! My head still hurts. :confused:
Drink-stall girl? This is a story we need to hear!
FreebieFan
08-18-09, 02:41
Freebefan's report makes the mouth water
Couldn't make sense of DIA though.Dateinasia.com.
Girls from every country waiting to be found.
Thai Ydiver
08-19-09, 12:44
My fav is Tagger.com though.
Dateinasia.com.
Girls from every country waiting to be found.
FreebieFan
08-20-09, 00:58
My fav is Tagger.com though.Tagger, or Tagged?
Thai Ydiver
08-20-09, 05:31
My fav is Tagger.com though.Sorry this should have been tagged.com one warning, watch out for the ladyboys, of course if you like them that's another story..
Careful with tagged.com. It tries to get you to give your email username and password (for gmail at least). Really a bad security idea. You can skip this step though (see top of screen).
Sorry this should have been tagged.com one warning, watch out for the ladyboys, of course if you like them that's another story..
MickTheKick
08-21-09, 11:05
Had arranged for my other chat mate to come visit me from a northern city. Did my work, and had time to meet Natasha. Tall slim, exotic, not a beauty but has some style about her. Met her on last trip thru DIA, so we met to catch up on the news in a Starbux. She tells me shes met 141 men thu DIA (didn't tell me how many bedded LOL). Tell me shes always amazed when a guy calls and says " Hi its me David. She says how would I know which one, theres 27 Davids I've met.! " Anyways fun chat. Is that Natasha the short haired one? Is she your chat mate that you bedded later?
I'm trying to get in touch (! ) with her. LOL
Grace Hotel - So-called "Turkish" girls.
Piper, big fan :). have been reading your reports on the DXB forum for a long time and its good to see you in other areas.
I am headed to BKK next week and would certainly like a CIS girl, is there any other place you found those girls too or was it just at Grace ?
cheers.
FreebieFan
08-22-09, 05:24
Is that Natasha the short haired one? Is she your chat mate that you bedded later?
I'm trying to get in touch (! ) with her. LOLYes Natasha is the short haired one. But no... never bedded her. The chat mate was another one.
Well I know she met number 141 last week Maybe you are No 142 ? lol.
Shes a nice girl and I suspect would be a tornada in bed.
Piper, big fan :). have been reading your reports on the DXB forum for a long time and its good to see you in other areas.
I am headed to BKK next week and would certainly like a CIS girl, is there any other place you found those girls too or was it just at Grace ?
cheers.The Rajah Hotel on Suk Soi 4 is also frequently written about as a place where Thai men go to get Russian girls (usually ethnic Russians from Uzbekistan), but I've never tried it myself. Apparently the girls have rooms at the hotel and do ST right there.
I met her a few times too. Nice girl but a bit of a nutcase. Didnt take her home but she was funny to talk to.
Is that Natasha the short haired one? Is she your chat mate that you bedded later?
I'm trying to get in touch (! ) with her. LOL
Has ginseng ever actually been tested to see how it measures up to these claims? Big claims + high price + no testing seems like a very beneficial formula for the seller, mainly. Anyway, I think this topic belongs in the ginseng forum. The most famous benefit is that it helps you live longer. I guess if you know how long you are going to live, then this would be testable. What could it possibly be based on? That's not included in this list of claims though. The aim on the website seems to be more "scientific": ginseng detoxifies alcohol, they say. Really? I wonder how it can do that. I guess if you eat a bunch of ginseng, you shouldn't be able to get drunk then. Well, that's easily testable. Acts as a cancer injunctive. ("injunctive"? normally used to describe a court-ordered restriction, as far as I know -- odd to be used in this sense, apparently meaning "preventive") If that isn't a dangerously irresponsible claim, I don't know what is.I agree - I would love to see a study. The sexual claims should be the easiest to test.
The Rajah Hotel on Suk Soi 4 is also frequently written about as a place where Thai men go to get Russian girls (usually ethnic Russians from Uzbekistan), but I've never tried it myself. Apparently the girls have rooms at the hotel and do ST right there.
Thanks Soilord. Any idea about the CM2 club in the Novotel Hotel ? It seems there are 3 main hangouts for these girls, Grace Hotel, Rajah and Novotel.
cheers.
Lover Boy #2
08-24-09, 07:21
I've been living in Rangsit for a little over a year and had to travel to BKK for action until today. Today I found a great massage/restaurant that can compete with any of the establishments in Bangkok as far as the quality and quantity of the girls are concern. On top of that the prices are way lower for food, drinks, and the girls than Bangkok. I was getting tired of payment 150B for a drink at some of the Bkk go-go bars.
So for expats living a little north of the city ( Rangsit) there's hope.
Happy hunting
Andy cannot receive PMs......
Andy....two times you have been asked for the location of the place in this post.....is it some sort of private secret?
Would you please divulge the location, as you thought it important enough to post on this subject.
Thanks.
Day 1:
Arrived at the Bangkok airport around midnight, waited about 20min to get my luggage and then followed the directions from in this forum about where to catch a legit taxi. Was worried a little about the scams going on in the airport but nothing happened, so I figured I was off to a good start.
Followed the signs to the taxi stand, talked to the girl and told them Livingstone's Lodge. She had no idea what I was talking about, so I showed her the map I printed out and she then wrote SV33 on the ticket. I later found out from the taxi driver that they use 4 letters for addresses or some such thing. I could very likely be wrong, but that is what I understood it to be. She gives you a ticket, you then wait in line until another girl calls for you to give her the piece of paper and you taxi driver will be waiting for you.
Once in the cab he starts on about something I don't understand due to my failure to learn any Thai and his inability to speak much English. I think he is asking where to go so I keep repeating Livingstone's Lodge and he has no clue. So I show him the map and then he seems to know where to go. He then continues on about something and I hear the number 500 and baht attached to it and then 30 seconds later I hear the word "meter" and I finally realize he is trying to negotiate an upfront fee (as mentioned to watch out for by the airport guide) so I say "meter" which at that point he looks disappointed and turns on the meter. He then explains to me the tolls I need to pay and the 50 baht surcharge.
Not sure how long, but it is about 1:30am and this guy is cruising at around 60kmh getting passed by every cab and car on the road, so I'm wondering at this point if I'm paying not only for distance but time as well (anyone know as I never figured that out). We finally turn onto the Sukemvhit and I get aquatinted with Bangkok traffic and I see a sign that reads "nana" and I realize this is nana plaza and it looks like it just got out, so I start looking at what is going to be on the menu in the next few days and I was mostly pleased (as was the cab driver, we almost hit a few cars as he was looking at the girls too).
We finally get to Soi 33 and it is also crowded as fuck and I'm looking for LL like a son of a ***** and we end up passing it somehow, so at the end of the street the cab driver gets out his phone and I show him the phone number that is on the map I printed out from the LL site. A few seconds later I hear the screeching of a fax machine and think "fuck me". I luckily have another LL # and that one turned out to be the right number and they got the cab driver straightened out and we made our way back. Turns out Bangkok has some kind of law that requires large signs or something to turn off at 12am, so the LL sign was off and since it was like 2am we didn't see it the first time, but I caught it on the way back. Cab driver stops, I look at the fare and it is like 270 baht, add in the 50 baht surcharge (which I think was added in already not sure) and the 70 baht for tolls and we arrive at our destination at far less then his original price of 500 baht. So for the newbies, always say "METER".
Now, don't expect some big driveway or large sign pointing you into the Lodge, the place is tucked away by a walkway and in front of this walkway are taxi guys hanging out and street vendors selling food so they kind of block it and hide it a bit (at least at night) and that is what made me miss it the first time. This time there was a LL staff member waiting for me and he took my suitcase and led me in. Once in I meet Guido (who is a hell of a nice guy by the way, and anyone who tells me they have so much beer they decided to sell some of it is a friend in my book! ). After a quick tour around the place I'm led to my room and dream about all the naughty things I'm about to do!
I wake up go downstairs and get some breakfast by the pool. Again the staff was very friendly and made me feel comfortable and there were lots of smiles (now I know why they call is LOS). I order up some eggs, ham and toast a glass of OJ to get the engines fired up because today was going to be a big day for me. I had in mind to do my first threesome. Now for some of you old hats that may not be a big deal but for me, I went most of my life thinking the only way I'd get two hot asians at the same time would be if I went and got a pedicure and manicure at the same time!
It was only about 9:30am, so I went for a stroll to see what Bangkok was all about, made a quick stop at the 7-11 and bought a sim card and 300 baht charge card only to find out my cell phone wouldn't accept the sim. Fuck me. I guess I'll donate it to the lodge and one of you kids can enjoy it. At this point it is about 11am and I'm very ready to bust my threesome cherry, so I head over to Love Teen as it came highly recommended on this site from many members. I walk in and am greeted buy a little cutie, then the mama-san takes the reigns and asks me what's my poison (in so many words). I tell her I'm looking for two girls for 2 hours and I'd like her to tell me which two work best together. She tells me they all love each other (uh-huh. I'm thinking I doubt this is den of bi chicks, but I go with it) and I look in the book and honestly I'd say the majority of this girls are good looking with nobody being ugly. I choose Ying and Lin as some of the other stunners I saw were on holiday, but I'm very pleased with my selection which cost me 1100 baht.
Mama-san calls for the girls, and they teleport in like ninjas or used a secret door in the floor or something because they were there in a flash. They lead me upstairs to a large room and begin to shower me. We talk and Lin is a bit shy and I think Ying's English is better. Anyhow, a nice shower with a little bit of touching, but I wasn't being pushy as this was my first time in Bangkok, first time at a MP and first time with 2 chicks (too many firsts to jump out of the gate, so I took my time).
We get back to the bed and they give me a good massage. Up until this point we are speaking in English and then I switch to Japanese because I hear one of them say a Japanese word and it turns out they speak just a little, so I teach them all the words they'll need to make their Japanese clients happy. Eventually they tell me I'm the first farang to teach them Japanese and they can't decide if they feel like they are with a farang or a Japanese guy! All in all it was a good conversation and I think it helped them warm to me better. At this point Lin asks me if I want a special message and I of course say yes. They inform me I'll need to pay 1500 baht to each of them. Now I remember another guy wrote a post back in April saying he got it for 1000 baht each so I asked if they would accept that, but they were pretty adamant on the 1500 baht. I'm like fuck it, I'm not going to let the cost of dinner and a movie sully my first experience so I suggest 1000 each and a 500 baht tip if they do a good job and they promise a good job and they begin.
Lin oils up and rubs her body all over me (and she's got some nice perky B cups) and then begins licking and sucking my balls like a champ while Ying (who has good C cups with lovely long nipples) oils up and rubs her body over me and then she goes to work on the shaft, the only problem is Ying has positioned herself so I can't see anything! Haha! Oh well, no big deal, I've got 60 minutes for this. After a little more of this Lin puts a condom on me and begins to give me a BJ (she only did CBJ while Ying did BBBJ). Ying starts kissing me and stuffing her nice breasts in my face and soon enough I feel Lin mount me and I'm in fucking pig heaven! I'm thinking, is this as good as I hoped it would be? Yes, ladies and gentleman, it was! Lin is moaning and panting hard as she is really giving me a beating, in the mean time I'm fingering Ying and tell her to sit on my face which at this point I find out she is totally shaved and I'm most pleased to DATY Ying while Lin takes me deep inside her pussy. After about 20 min they ask if I'm going to come and I tell them I can last a long time so not to worry. They then tell me I can come as many times as I want, but again I like to make the first one last.
At this point Lin is beginning to get tired and asks if I'd like to change. I'm thinking she means positions, but she meant girls. I say yes, and that is when I realize she meant girls as they take off the condom and put a new one on me. Ying then mounts me and her pussy is fucking tight (Lin lubbed up a bit I think) and I'm average size. So now Ying is riding me and Lin is kissing me (again Lin is very shy or might be new to the game or is very safe about things. Her kissing was nice, but she wasn't full on DFK, but did some.) At this point I'm feeling Lin's wonderful ass while getting rode by a fucking Olympic level bull rider. I can't keep my eyes off Lin and her ass and I'm thinking I want to hit that from behind when Ying starts going crazy over there and I blow my load inside of her. We all have a good laugh, she takes off the condom, and they take turns showering real quick as they worked up a sweat and told me to rest a few minutes.
Lin tells me there are 25min left so, Ding ding. Round 2! They begin with a ball massage and get me going again and then Ying starts giving me a BBBJ and then I tell them I want to go inside one of them. I should have said I want to go inside Lin, but Ying answers the call and lays on her back, but I quickly turn her over and give it to her doggy! Now Ying also has a nice ass, it is just that Lin has darker skin and I like that, but there was nothing wrong with Ying either! So there I was, banging Ying from behind, spanking her ass while Lin was behind me rubbing my chest and ass while kissing me and sucking on my ears. Lin began to put pressure on my asshole which felt good, but I told her to play with my balls instead and at that time Ying starts to finger herself and starts panting pretty heavily. She comes (or says she does) just before I blow my second load inside of her. We shower up, they walk me downstairs where I sing their praises to the mama-san and I head back to LL for a delicious dish of green curry that was very spicy but too good not to battle through it.
As far as Teen Love goes, I had a great time, not sure if the price was higher then I should have paid, but I'm not unhappy. It was my first threesome, and while the girls didn't do anything with each other I'm guessing that is harder to find, but all in all I experienced what many others who have posted about Teen Love have, and that was a great time with good looking girls.
I am now sitting by the pool enjoying the rays and typing up this report whilst talking with the various staff members and watching all the bar girls arrive. You know, today was a pretty good day, and I look forward to what the night will bring! Stay tuned.
Ok, so tonight I went to the sports bar at Livingstone's, and I must say, they have a a lot of very attractive girls here, I'd say all are better then average with many being very nice. I got there around 7pm and I was the only guy there so I felt a bit intimidated at first as I walked in and had 15 sexy girls stand up and great me! I wasn't sure what to do as in my neck of the woods there are 10 guys to every girl at the bars! Anyhow, I just grabbed a beer and tried to soak it all in. After about 5min a pretty little thing came over and asked if I'd like to play pool, so I said sure and we played 3 games and talked and joked around. Ning is her name and she is a real sweetheart. We chat it up for a bit, I do some magic tricks and draw a bit of a crowd, pretty soon I've got 3 or 4 including the mama-san over at the table and we're all having a good time. Eventually I bar fine Ning and bring her up to my room.
Ning is a real diamond in the rough. In a line up she might not stand out as the "hottest" in the group, but she can hold her own, what makes her a great catch is she is fun to talk with, gives the total GFE (I'd like to inject a small bit of editorial at this point and recommend we change GFE to IGFE with the "I" standing for "Ideal" as most true girlfriends nag, ***** and complain and the most inopportune times. Not that there is ever a good time mind you! ) and she is good at what she does. She is a bit shy, but that wears off as she gets comfortable with you. We did it all night long in many positions and in the morning we did it again and then she gave me a great head, back and shoulder massage to boot! Guys, if you really want the IGFE go to LL and bar fine Ning, you won't be disappointed!
This report touches on LL, Teen Love, Bangkok and a few other things and could probably go in all their respective forums, but I'll just put this here in the Bangkok reports and hopefully that'll be cool.
This concludes day 1! Be on the look out for Day 2!
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Dainoji - Your report is what this forum is all about. Great stuff.
Look forward to what follows!
Styk
bangkok day 2:
after a good morning shag with ning, i decided to do some touristy things today and went to a large shopping mall called mbk. basically if you are looking for pirated software, knock-off sunglasses, clothes, cheap electronics, etc or an unlocked cell phone, then this is the place to go. it probably won't look much different then a shopping mall in your city, but it wasn't too far away, and the lovely ning from livingston's sports bar accompanied me and showed me around a bit.
got back to ll around 4pm and was coming down off my high from the night before, and the adrenaline had all but left and now i was starting to feel the effects of jet lag. i didn't want to waste the day sleeping, and i'm still not confident on how to get around (and was too lazy to figure anything out at this point) so i decided to have round 2 at love teen since i knew how to get there without any problems! i was going to try somewhere else on soi 33, but i didn't do any research and didn't feel like trying something unknown at this point.
same drill, walked into love teen, was greeted by the mama-san and she remembered me and asked if i would like 2 ladies again and i said yes. decided to try two different girls this time, and the best ones that suited my taste that were available at the time were rad and da. this time i had a to wait about 30 seconds before the girls showed up (not sure i would consider that "waiting") and then they led me downstairs to one of the larger vip rooms. this room had a large bath tub but was smaller then the upstairs room i went to the night before. i don't care for tubs to be honest, so the upstairs room with it's standing shower suited me better, but not a huge deal.
i was told to sit down and they ran off to fetch their basket of goodies and then we all stripped down and hopped into the tub. i had to do a little bit more work this time (basically i took off my own clothes whereas yesterday lin wouldn't allow me to do that). once in the tub da sat behind me and had me lay back onto her (i only tip the scales at about 165lbs but i felt bad for the poor girl, but she didn't seem to mind) and then rad was in front of me and they got to washing me. again no play during the washing, not sure if that is standard here or if i need to instigate this sort of thing if that is what i fancy.
out of the tub and onto the bed and they began giving me a massage with da on my legs and rad on my back. it was a decent massage but nothing to write home about. both of them kept their towels on the whole time so that was a bit of a downer...after maybe 45min they ask if i'd like the special and i again say yes and they quote me the 1500 baht each fee and this time i didn't bother to negotiate as i figured that must be the going rate since yesterday it was the same song and they wouldn't go down on price.
once the special was agreed on they both took off their towels and began to oil their chests of and started to rub them on me. perhaps having my cherry busted they day before has colored my perception, or these two girls just weren't into it, but everything was very, very mechanical at this point, none of the fun playfulness of the day before. these girls didn't want to do any bbbj, but da slapped on the jimmy hat and went to work with a cbj and it was good, but again nothing too amazing. all the while both are making sexy hissing noises and what not, but it was so obviously fake that it just wasn't doing it for me. lin and ying are either much better actors, or they really were into it (or perhaps these chicks just weren't into me).
neither girls shave their pussy, and because i wasn't feeling the chemistry there was no daty to be had, but i did do my best to touch and rub them to try and get them going. eventually da gets up to mount and and that is when i notice this "19 year old" has already popped out a kid or two and has the stretch marks to prove it and breasts to match. now don't get me wrong, she still has a good body and a cute little face, but i was just surprised is all (and i am pretty picky to be honest). so we've got da moving up and down like a piston, but there is just no passion in it and rad (who has a decent body) is licking my chest and kissing me everywhere. this is when i realize that they are pretty much doing the exact same routine as the girls from yesterday, so keep in mind if you come here multiple times expecting something different, you might be disappointed. i decided i better take the lead at this point and mind you i like to be pretty aggressive in my non p4p life but since i'm a newbie i guess i was just playing things safe.
da says something in thai and rad suggests we change girls (so i'm guessing she was saying she is tired or whatever) no worries, we change girls and rad is on top on one knee and the other leg up and stats humping away and i was pretty close to begin with and blow my load inside of her. we clean up and they begin to give a arm and had massage and after a bit they go to round 2 and da starts giving me a ball massage (which she does very well i might add) and soon enough i'm plowing into da doggy style and start spanking her ass and going crazy like the world is going to end if i don't come in the next 10 seconds! at this point i think i hear actual moans instead of fake ones and rad is kind of sitting off to the side so i grab her and start kissing her which she obliges and soon enough my boys are making their way into a well lubricated da (being stopped by my condom of course).
i'm pretty fucking spent at this point but we still have time on the clock (went for the 2 hour massage), so da starts massaging me again and rad is giving me a head massage. after a bit da starts stroking my cock again and i'm thinking "not sure this is going to happen" but the girls take turns and finally rad starts kissing me and da takes over on cock duty. at this point my legs are shaking as i'm trying to come and i'm on the fucking edge for like 5 minutes but because i'm so tired i can't seem to come, but finally bam! it launches all over rad's back and they are both amazed by it (if i'm totally honest, so was i)!
we hop in the bath, rinse off, i pay them and then i walk out back to linvingstone's. i go to my room, freshen up a bit and come down for dinner. by the way if i haven't mentioned this before everything i've ordered thus far has been great. breakfast is pretty standard fare at any joint (and let's be honest it is pretty hard to fuck up breakfast being a few simple eggs and some fried meat of some kind) but lunch and dinner are another story and ll hasn't disappointed me.
i ordered the spaghetti bolognese, and it was delicious. i flirt with the waitress a bit, and the mama-san comes out with a customer from the sports bar and he eventually leaves and she comes over to talk with me and asks if i'll be joining them tonight and i tell her i will (and i meant it) but at this point my stomach is starting to get real queasy and i'm having to do the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) dance while in my seat to stop an immanent eruption. i gracefully make my exit with a promise to return and make haste to my room. i'll spare you all the graphic details as we've all been there. i'm trying to figure out what i ate or drank that would have brought this on...it might have been the water or ice i was offered at teen love and was so parched i had to drink some...
anyhow, after laying siege to the throne for about 20 min i lay down on the bed "just to rest"...i wake up around 3am, shake my head and put the pillow over my head as i'm too lazy to turn off the light!
this concluded day 2 in bangkok, not how i wanted to end the night, but my body had other plans!
stay tuned for day 3. on the agenda is tulips and perhaps soi cowboy.
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I recently stayed in Chinatown for 48 hours - yes, your reporter opebo is again impecunious, at least for the moment. There I found the usual array of girls, none tempting. Some old fatties offered themselves for 200 baht, many ordinary sized uglies for 300, a few tolerables for 500, and one sour cutie even quoted 1,000 - I think just to get rid of me.
Finally just before leaving I took one to my own room (daring, no?), who agreed to BBFS for 500. Decent looking late 20s and slim, alas, as it turned her seedpod was burst. She ended up demanding an extra hundred for bareback and that I 'water outside'. I acquiesced to the former but not the latter. However she had the last laugh as I discovered later she had stolen 500 baht from me and given me the clap!
I recently stayed in Chinatown for 48 hours - yes, your reporter opebo is again impecunious, at least for the moment. There I found the usual array of girls, none tempting. Some old fatties offered themselves for 200 baht, many ordinary sized uglies for 300, a few tolerables for 500, and one sour cutie even quoted 1,000 - I think just to get rid of me.
Finally just before leaving I took one to my own room (daring, no?), who agreed to BBFS for 500. Decent looking late 20s and slim, alas, as it turned her seedpod was burst. She ended up demanding an extra hundred for bareback and that I 'water outside'. I acquiesced to the former but not the latter. However she had the last laugh as I discovered later she had stolen 500 baht from me and given me the clap!
Ha ha ha ha ha ... Rodney Dangerfield couldn't have told it better.
Seriously, ... I hope you can look forward to better times, man.
Day 1:
Arrived at the Bangkok airport around midnight, ....................
This concludes day 1! Be on the look out for Day 2!
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Great report dude
I feel you overpaid the taxi a bit (I did pay 300/320 from airport to LL) but at the end... I do not think you ended up empty pocket for your alter fun!
At least not from what I read.
Was nice reading about the trouble to locate LL, had the same and sorterd it out the same way with me calling the lodge for directions to the taxi driver. Only when I was there I saw the more than obvious sign of LL: maybe is too big ah ah ah.
Well done with the report as you wrote more in 3 reports that some others in 100..:)
As I am not adding much to the history, let me at last add a picture to keep the spirit up!
Thanks Soilord. Any idea about the CM2 club in the Novotel Hotel? It seems there are 3 main hangouts for these girls, Grace Hotel, Rajah and Novotel.CM2 has had Russian girls for many years. I haven't been there for a long time, but the most recent information I have (January 2009) is that there are still plenty of Russians there, but at a fairly high price. My most recent info on the Rajah (from last week) is that the price is 2600 THB for on-site ST. A papasan takes you from the lobby to a second floor room to make your choice, and then the girl takes you to another room upstairs to do the deed. Apparently there's an additional 100 THB for condoms if you don't have your own.
Dextro Sol
08-25-09, 16:12
Day 1:
Arrived at the Bangkok airport around midnight.........
This concludes day 1! Be on the look out for Day 2!
Great report and looking forward to read more tomorrow.. and Dainoji.. hope you will stay for a while and write reports like this every day!!
Have a great time!!!
I agree - I would love to see a study. The sexual claims should be the easiest to test.
Yes I'm actually doing research in this area, have been for some time. Results thus far inconclusive, much more thorough testing will be necessary. Too early to foresee when we'll be ready to publish.
I acquiesced to the former but not the latter. However she had the last laugh as I discovered later she had stolen 500 baht from me and given me the clap!
Isn't that the whole point of BBFS? You get memories that last you can savor forever.
Ok, so tonight I went to the sports bar at Livingstone's, and I must say, they have a a lot of very attractive girls here, I'd say all are better then average with many being very nice. I got there around 7pm and I was the only guy there so I felt a bit intimidated at first as I walked in and had 15 sexy girls stand up and great me!
Great report! What night of the week was this?
Serial Kisser
08-25-09, 19:03
Great report! What night of the week was this?He said he went "tonight" and as can be seen from the report it was posted "yesterday", which means it was Sunday?
Member #3428
08-25-09, 22:10
Isn't that the whole point of BBFS? You get memories that last you can savor forever.
BBFS... I thought it was the gift that keeps giving no?? You know my english isn't that good.
I got the shocker yesterday. I got the message from a girl who told me she was pregnant. After my initial shock wore off I did the math.. impossible for it to be me as I was not even with her at that time of conception ;) But I do admire her skills, she must be going through her entire phone book contacting every guy she has info on to hope a few take the bait.
But I did verify with friends she is definitely pregnant and it's a damn shame as she is a nice girl. Add one more unsupported half caste child into BKK / Isaan society pretty soon. :(
This guy is trying to threaten me by PM to expose me to my family. He told me he saved some of my photos and he wants Wildcat's email address. Good luck to him, the loser.
Member #3428
08-25-09, 22:38
This guy is trying to threaten me by PM to expose me to my family. He told me he saved some of my photos and he wants Wildcat's email address. Good luck to him, the loser.
Are you serious? He obviously doesn't have a clue about you.
Anyways I'll help, Wildcat is on ISG also you can PM... " Auntie Guido "
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But I did verify with friends she is definitely pregnant and it's a damn shame as she is a nice girl. Add one more unsupported half caste child into BKK / Isaan society pretty soon. :(
Just because she's a sex worker and fucks with you amongst no doubt many other farangs, don't take it for granted that she will produce a half caste.
Most of these girls have a Thai b/f who they share their bed with when they don't get a customer, and even when they return home to their villages for a few days, instead of resting their pussies, they're out and about drinking with friends and putting it about!
Member #3428
08-25-09, 22:48
Just because she's a sex worker and fucks with you amongst no doubt many other farangs, don't take it for granted that she will produce a half caste.
Most of these girls have a Thai b/f who they share their bed with when they don't get a customer, and even when they return home to their villages for a few days, instead of resting their pussies, they're out and about drinking with friends and putting it about!
yeah that's a given... but love her fortitude to try to find the foreign guy to take care of it. Should have said another fatherless child being donated by someone....
There's action to be had at the Rangsit Boxing Stadium at night ( the girls sit in front, you can do a drive by).
Also for those looking for info on the massage place. It is a little before the Stadium, next to the Nissan dealership. ( look for neon lights)
There is also action to be had west of Future Park a bit. You will see what looks like a restaurant with pictures of Asian girls in the front.
As far as your experience will go. I can not say, most of these girls are use to servicing Thai guys and rarely will you find one that can speak English. So if you know a little Thai that will help.
Good luck and happy hunting
Great report! What night of the week was this?It was Sunday night.
day 3:
my body's coup attempt last night was stopped short and i awoke around 6:30am. couldn't fall back to sleep so decided to get up and surf the net for a bit and do some research for today's fun. i decided it was going to be either tulips or eden's this afternoon, but i wasn't sure which, so having been taught a valuable lesson at some point in my life, i decided not to make these kinds of decisions on an empty stomach.
i eventually drag my ass downstairs for breakfast and this time i opt for the traditional thai breakfast (kind of a rice soup with some bits of pork and green onions in what i'm guessing is chicken broth). i really liked it, but i love asian food in general. i've warmed up to a few of the waitresses here over the last few days so i spent some time chatting and flirting with them as well.
it's about 12:30pm and i finally decide on tulips and march upstairs to get directions, and for those staying at the lodge, you simply get onto soi 33, and heads towards sukhumvit and make a left. at this point you can take the sky train one stop to thong lo and you'll then want to exit onto the other side of the street (the right side assuming you turned left onto sukhumvit). it is really easy to find, just look for the sign and the large picture of a foot showing all the pressure points, etc.
i went down the stairs from the sky train platform, turned right and made my way for tulips. i see a motorcycle taxi drop off a cutie in fuck me pumps and a tight little dress and think, oh dear, what are the chances she works at tulips? i follow her, and bingo, she walks into tulips with me right behind and she promptly lets the door close on me (unbeknownst to her). no worries, having lived in large cities i'm used to people only thinking about themselves, so i don't let it phase me and i open the door and walk in.
now i already rtff on tulips, so i wasn't expecting anything, but to be honest, this place is a fucking dump, and if i hadn't read so many glowing reviews i would have spun on a dime and walked out. to be fair, it was probably "clean" but it just looks old and tired. i do a quick look around to see where i need to order but all i see at first are two beauty salon style chairs and two girls in them (who pay me no attention). this is strange i think as all the other places i've been (and haven't been for that matter) have someone opening the door for me, a gaggle of birds sitting about smiling up at me, but not this place. one might be fooled into thinking they are actually not open yet. i see the front desk and the girl i had followed in and turns out she is the mama-san.
i walk up to the desk and mama-san is checking her books or something and then looks up at me with a fucking glare that would tear the souls from a 1000 angels and deliver them to lucifer himself and spits out "how long". no hello, no smile, no "sa-what dee-ka", no politeness, nothing. i have 1/2 a thought to tell her to fuck herself with a 20 inch wrought iron hot poker wrapped in barbed wire and walk out at this point, but again i let it slide as the reviews on this forum have been glowing and enough so it has its own forum! i look at the menu and indicate i would like 90min and before i can say anything she yells out to one of the girls and turns away to do something. i wasn't asked to look at a book, i didn't get a chance to look at a book and to be honest, the girl who she called out was standing next to me already at this point with a huge smile on her face and i just couldn't bring myself to demand i look at the book. now i take full responsibility for this as one of my character flaws (if we want to call it that) is i can't bring myself to not care about people's feelings regardless if they are p4p workers or not. people are people, but in fact i've had a handful or girls here in thailand tell me not to care or worry because most of these girls don't care either (unless they have built up a good rapport with you already and then at that point feelings can and will be hurt).
back to the show.
the girl standing next to me is short and squarish, 100% not my type. her shoulders are broad, her hips are blocky and there are very few curves on her. i like trim and slim and i'm really not too forgiving, so please understand my preference is going to clearly color the rest of this report.
she walks me up some stairs and tells me i can use the toilet, which i do and when i go to wash my hands i see a sink with no faucet ("nice" i think to myself, what a fucking dump. these chicks must be grand champion sex performers for everyone to keep singing their praises), so i keep trusting in the board and make my way out and shake it from my mind. i'm led into a very small room which again going with the whole "shitty dump theme" i'm not surprised and at this point my expectations are so low that as long as i don't smell anything rancid or see a dead body laying on the floor i won't be shocked. no bad smell, and no body stuffed in the mattress so i walk in. the lights are very dim, and i again try and shake my disappointment from my mind trusting i'm in for a hell of a good time.
this girl has yet to stop smiling at this point and that has helped a bit, and eventually i ask her her name and she tells me "rose". "great! " i think, i read on the boards about this girl and about how she was pretty damn good (not one of the others like dao or whatever, but i figured, ok maybe not all is lost). rose sounds like she swallowed a dog's squeak toy, and her english isn't good at all so for those of you who don't like the "asian style cuteness" you won't like her personality as she oozes this. i don't mind it, and if her body was actually my type i would have been happy, but i digress.
we head into the shower, she does a good job cleaning me, no play in the shower but fellas, i'm just not feeling it and i'm already pretty sure this is going to be a bad time, and at to be honest i'm clinging onto a hope and a dream (like when that girl broke up with you back in school and all your buddies told you it would be ok and she would be back and you believed them).
out of the shower onto the bed where there is just a blue towel on it (i'm guessing there are no sheet changes here but maybe they do) and there is a pillow for your head and i'm also wondering at this point if each new guy gets a fresh pillow case. again, if the place didn't look the way it did i probably wouldn't be thinking this, hell, maybe this place is cleaner then some of the other places i've been too but i was fooled by the shiny exterior!
rose begins giving me a "oil rub down" i wouldn't call it a massage as it is simply rubbing oil on my body and after 10 min she flips me over and starts rubbing her chest on me and then rubs her ass and pussy on me as well. my heart rate is increasing at this point and not because i'm excited, i'm thinking "i don't want her pussy anywhere near my uncovered cock", so i make adjustments in my body to prevent this mostly and she then puts it between her thighs and moves up and down and finally gives me a bbbj. now, the girl has skills, there is no denying it, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, there is just zero interest on my part and no chemistry.
after about 15 min she tells me i can come twice so i think she suspects i'm holding back on her, but the truth of the matter is i like to take my time, and i don't have any problems going all night long if the chemistry is there. she eventually covers me up and mounts me and to be blatantly honest i'm trying to remember what all she did on top but it was so unmemorable i can't. i know i eventually came while she was on top, but i think my mind has shredded this memory (and it just happened yesterday).
she then tells me to relax and gives me a hand massage (a good one at that) and then it is time for round two. at this point i recall tulips is the place to go if you want to stick your wiener where the sun don't shine, so i figure, what the hell, maybe that'll get things going! again, the whole time she is happy, smiling and bubbly! with her on all fours she is joking with me that i want to go in "that way" and she lubes up and i enter the back door. she is actually really tight back there, almost too tight as it didn't feel that good at first a i wasn't really able to pump very well, but eventually things loosened up and it started feeling better, but i was thinking i should have just done it doggy and called it a day. i eventually came, and it wasn't anything special. i've gone in my girlfriends poopers so nothing new for me.
after this i just want to get the hell out of here because honestly, being mostly new to the p4p scene i'm still a bit nervous about it and the atmosphere and experience here just didn't help things at all. rose tells me to lay down again and relax and i try to, but i'm just not feeling good and i really want to hop in the shower and wash myself a 1000 times to see if soap, water and chemicals can scrub this whole experience from my mind. just to be clear though, there was nothing noticeably unclean about rose, or the room itself, just everything i've mentioned here was just too much for me. at this point rose starts telling me how there are other girls and how there is a book and that i can choose my girl, and when i came there were only two girls available as most of the girls show up around 1pm (i got there at about 12:45pm). she obviously could tell i wasn't into her, and to her credit she wanted me to know that i had options and that was very nice of her and i thanked her (felt a little bad the same time).
we walk downstairs, go to the counter and this sexy girl comes over and shows me how much it will cost on the calculator and i'm thinking, god damn it, where was this girl when i got here and there was another one i saw sitting down that was more my type as well. oh well, i pay the bill something like 2100 baht, and i give rose a 200 baht tip because i felt bad and stuck it in her ass. mostly the tip was to make me feel better.
i leave tulips and decide to walk back to ll instead of taking the train. on my way back to the lodge i pass a place called saba massage and there is a very, very hot spinner standing outside looking at me and making eye contact and i smile at her and as i walk past she tells me to come inside for a massage and i politely refuse and keep walking. i'm thinking, you know. the best way to get your mind off of something bad is to get yourself a nice piece of ass, and just as i'm thinking this i hear her yell out to me to come back please and i turn around and smile at her again and she turns away pretending to be shy and i keep walking. about 20 more feet i turn around again just to see if she has already moved on, but nope, she is still looking at me and smiles again and i smile back and wave but for whatever reason keeping walking. having just shot twice and not feeling too good about it i just didn't want to make the effort. perhaps i'll go back tomorrow and check it out.
get back to the loge, get some really good thai food from ll again and head upstairs to rest a bit. i plan to go to soi cowboy tonight but after my tulips experience i just didn't feel up to it and decided to go down to the sports bar again where i knew the girls and knew it would be fun.
i head down after a quick shower and once again, 15 to 20 beautiful girls and only a handful of men (maybe 2 or 3) at this point (6pm maybe). i don't see ning there and i remember she said she worked part time and wasn't there every night. mama-san who i became friendly with challenges me to pool and i proceed to lose 5 games to 1, all while i've got my eye on easily one of the hottest girls i've seen in thailand, and she keeps making eye contact with me as well. we exchange smiles every so often and eventually i sit down with mama-san and tell her i like the girl at the end and she calls her over. her name is may, and she is just as pretty up close. i start talking with her and the mama-san and they ask me to do some more "magic" tricks, so i tell them i'll need 9 coins. one of the staff gives me one coin as i had 8 on me. mama-san goes away for a second and i tell may and the other staff memeber the secret to this trick as i need a partner to pull it off.
mama-san comes back, i tell her to touch one of the coins and i'll turn away and then when she is done i'll read her mind and touch the coin she choose. i do this 3 or 4 times and mama-san is confused. about 5 or 6 of the other girls crowd around the table and the 2nd mama-san comes over and again and again i amaze them. at this point i tell them i can touch anyone's head and transfer my magic to them so they can do the trick. i touch may and have her turn around while someone chooses a coin and then may turns around and chooses the correct coin. everyone is amazed. this happens 3 or 4 more times and then i touch the staff member who gave me his coin as i showed him the trick too and again everyone is amazed by all of this. this goes on for about 20min and may is laughing and we are all having a good time. at this point i see ning walk in but she sees i'm already with a bevy of girls and doesn't come over. i feel a little bad again, but ning had told me the other night she hopes i bar fine her again but says i should try other girls too since i am on holiday and it is ok. that was nice of her i thought.
the timing is right, may is having a good time and i can't wait to get her back to my room. we head upstairs and she wants to take separate showers because she is shy but i convince her it is more fun together and she says ok. nothing special about the shower but we play a little bit and there is lots of laughing. we get out of the shower and get onto the bed and we cuddle for a little bit and i could tell may wasn't the aggressive type and i'd need to lead the way. i didn't mind as i like to lead, so i start kissing her neck and body and kiss her lips and i can tell she is a bit timid and doesn't do muck dfk. no worries, you can't expect a girl to just hop right on it all the time, so i warm her up some more and start to daty which it seems she is liking, and eventually she tells me to stop and covers hr pussy with her hand and says she doesn't want to finish that way. no problem, that just means it is her turn to please me.
we kiss some more, this time there is some more dfk and i tell caress her slowly and gently and she starts to melt a bit more and the kissing becomes more passionate. i put her hand on my cock and she begins to stroke it and makes her way down there for some bbbj and after a bit i ask her to kneel down between my legs and do it so i can see her face and she does and looks at me with her beautiful eyes. after a bit i put on a condom and she gets on top of me and we start going at it. may is not a wild type of girl, but she followed my lead wonderfully and i had a great time. we switch to mish, and then i start drilling her doggy all the while i'm hearing small whimpers and moans but i can still tell she is kind of nervous. i lay behind her on our sides so things can be more soft and intimate and she starts getting into more again finally i can hear her come or what i take for coming and i release my load as well.
we lay there a bit and talk, then she says she can't stay lt because she works in the morning at an office, so i tell her no problem, we talk for about 20 more minutes and then i pay her and give her a nice hug and a long kiss which she seems to enjoy and she heads out and she says i should bar fine her on friday or saturday as she doesn't have to work at the office in the mornings on those days.
today was an up and down ride (i thank you. i'll be here all night folks, don't forget to tip the waitress and try the ham! ) but so far ll bar has been great. not sure about tulips, i'd like to give it another shot but i fear i may be forever scarred from my last encounter sadly.
up next. i really need to get my ass down to soi cowboy and nana to see what all the fuss is about.
stay tuned!
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NicFrenchy
08-26-09, 10:34
I got the shocker yesterday. I got the message from a girl who told me she was pregnant.
Oh god please no.... one Rabbit KTV is enough already... we don't need any more
Member #3428
08-26-09, 10:42
Oh god please no.... one Rabbit KTV is enough already... we don't need any more
You know I have twins....
(Identical Twin Uni Girls :D )
She ended up demanding an extra hundred for bareback and that I 'water outside'. I acquiesced to the former but not the latter. However she had the last laugh as I discovered later she had stolen 500 baht from me and given me the clap!
She didn't give it to you, you bought it.
A few Qs about LL.
First, are there two distinct girls? One named Ning and one named Neung?
Second, what is the deal with the BFs there? Sometimes they seem to lower them as the night moves on. Sometimes they claim not to lower them. I've heard people claim many different figures at different times of the night. What's the deal?
Member #3428
08-26-09, 23:17
First, are there two distinct girls? One named Ning and one named Neung?
Depend on what day of the week :D Pita123 you know that girls change their names many times. I know one girl at LL that has changed her name three times. But yes these are different girls. It gets really confusing when girls by the same name work at the same bar.
Just be like me and call them all your tee rak and you'll be safe ;) Until they want to cut off your dick and feed it to the ducks that is....
Second, what is the deal with the BFs there? Sometimes they seem to lower them as the night moves on. Sometimes they claim not to lower them. I've heard people claim many different figures at different times of the night. What's the deal?
The BF's are lower after certain hour in the night. I forget the time but later in the night like every other place the later the night the lower the BF. The BF does NOT change ever. HOWEVER there is a lower BF for multiple days... if you take a girl out for a week there is a lower rate, it is the late night price if I remember right. But I think it is three day you take a girl out you get the late night BF rate per day.
Now the price the girl asks for her time can change. Can be lower or higher, if she has had many customers and not need the cash or feel up to going out she can ask a higher amount. If it is late, if she likes you, if she is desperate for cash of course she can ask whatever she wants. That is always between you and the girl and LL will not get involved in that.
Some girls have many customers and sponsors and such and they can say they never change their rates. But this isn't the BF. This is solely between you and the girl.
The BF's are lower after certain hour in the night. I forget the time but later in the night like every other place the later the night the lower the BF. The BF does NOT change ever.
So they do lower it or don't lower it? It is up to the girl to remember?
Member #3428
08-27-09, 03:00
So they do lower it or don't lower it? It is up to the girl to remember?
the BF is not up to the girl, it is up to the house. It is not up to the girl to remember anything about it. It lowers at 11 pm maybe, can never remember, never lasted that long. Always in the room by then. :D
Hunter1969
08-27-09, 11:21
The BF is higher early in the evening, to prevent all the girls to be barfined early, and leave the place emty of girls.
Member #3428
08-27-09, 22:05
The BF is higher early in the evening, to prevent all the girls to be barfined early, and leave the place emty of girls.
Gee you think? Wow never would have figured that one out all by ourselves.
For any of you who want to venture into the dark ..
When you face Asia Hotel, go down the first soi immediately to the right of the hotel, right beside it. Keep looking to your right. You'll soon spot a short-time hotel (curtains to hide the cars) on your right. They have ladies onsite for 1000b. I got taken to a little waiting room on the 2nd floor and the ladies were rounded up for inspection. Bacarra this aint.
For any of you who want to venture into the dark ..
When you face Asia Hotel, go down the first soi immediately to the right of the hotel, right beside it. Keep looking to your right. You'll soon spot a short-time hotel (curtains to hide the cars) on your right. They have ladies onsite for 1000b. I got taken to a little waiting room on the 2nd floor and the ladies were rounded up for inspection. Bacarra this aint.
quality of the ladies? As bad as the hotel?
Rambis Youth
08-28-09, 06:51
Gee you think? Wow never would have figured that one out all by ourselves.
Whilst this may be obvious to many, Hunter was only trying to help. I think you should go easy on him, it's not the Fight Club.
quality of the ladies? As bad as the hotel?
Seemed similar to the cheaper Thai-oriented Petchaburi massage parlors.
Member #3428
08-28-09, 10:23
Whilst this may be obvious to many, Hunter was only trying to help. I think you should go easy on him, it's not the Fight Club.
Ouch man.... don't insult the memory of OTH.....
OK OK.. Hunter... yes thank you we know the reason why the bar fine gets lower later. I can not remember what TIME of the night the BF at LL gets reduced as usually by that hour I'm already shagging away and it's been a long time since I've BF'd a girl there.
Also as 1Ball says I'm 18 years his senior which means I must be about 98 years old by now.
I can not remember what TIME of the night the BF at LL gets reduced.
11pm it reduces from 1,500 to 1,000BHT, if I remember correctly.
11pm it reduces from 1,500 to 1,000BHT, if I remember correctly.Why would anyone barfine an LL girl for those prices ? Some people have more money than sense, or simply they are to fat and lazy to be bothered to go out and get better quality for better value.
But thats their choice.
hi dainoji.
it's funny, after my first visit to tulip i left exactly with your same negative feelings, while now it is one of my favorite places in bkk.
first of all, the mamasan could indeed use an intensive course of good manners. and yes, it was not your fault, whenever she sees a new face she tries to match the guy with the next girl in the queue without showing a book or inquiring about tastes or preferences. most of the guys (me included) do exactly what you did: get the girl because sending her back and asking for a new one would not be, let's say, correct. and you are right again, when you get in for the first time, the girls at the "beauty salon" don't pay much attention to you.
but, m/s is probably obliged to have some kind of rotation system, otherwise the new or less popular girls would not have enough work as most of the guys ask for the same 3 or 4 (alleged) superstars. moreover, if you can say "90minutesoilcaniseetheladiesplease" without breathing, even if you are a newcomer, she will point her finger at the stairs and let you go down and choose the girl by yourself. and she won't even look more pissed off than how she normally does. once you are downstairs you will have all the smiles and giggles that you deserve and also the girls at the makeup will teleport like ninjas to partecipate in *your* lineup.
second, the fucking dump. ok, tulip's premises are not exactly elegant. but again, there are probably good reasons for that. the buildings in thailand get worn very quickly and the renovation costs should be somehow recovered. probably the building does not even belong to tulip and finally i am rather sure that most of the "regulars" could not care less about the look of the rooms. so, you are right, the place sucks but i can live with that now that i am used to it. i even kind of like it.
third, the hygiene thing. personally i don't use the pillow. i roll my own towel and put it under my neck. however i have never seen stains on the sheets even if a lot of oil (and god only knows what else) is used during the sessions. so i presume that the sheets are changed after every customer. there are always 2 or 3 cleaning ladies on duty and they do not spend all their time bringing in the drinks and peeping at our dicks (i know they do.). anyway if someone instead knew for sure that the sheets are not regularly changed, please. i don't want to know it.
concerning the girls, if you think about that rationally, they cannot be less than clean. they are thai (hygiene & good smell addicted). they take at least 10 showers a day and, probably also for this reason, they do it together with their customers. i always help them with hot water and baby soap with particular care for their hot spots.
finally, concerning her pussy getting close to your unprotected willy, i think i can reassure you that such a "mistake" as a bareback penetration will never take place. unless you look like brad pitt and have a dick like john holmes i mean.
so, all in all, in my case the bad experience depended on the fact that i was not feeling comfortable with the whole situation. a place like tulip, on the first time, can be emotionally tough and all the details you mentioned do not help with this feeling of uneasiness. maybe it was just the same for you.
if i can give you a suggestion, have a look at snow white. the parlor practically belongs to the same owners but is smaller, brand new, clean and definitely does not look as gray and depressive as tulip. there is a larger room with an armchair, you may ask for that one. the staff is very friendly, included the mamasan and the "assistant". the girls, in average, look a bit better than tulip's even if the performance is not always at the same level. some names: om (like in from) is very young and very cute, she is about 150 for 37/38 kgs and has a beautiful face and a bright smile. no children, no english, no anal, no long experience, but for the rest she is up to anything.
fa. if you want a real gfe but also a back door for willy to play she may be the right person. acceptable look, no kids, nice and firm breasts. new on the job (like most of sw girls) she still lacks a bit of experience but is totally eager to please: she can do everything you want.
enjoy!
day 3:
i follow her, and bingo, she walks into tulips with me right behind and she promptly lets the door close on me (unbeknownst to her). no worries, having lived in large cities i'm used to people only thinking about themselves, so i don't let it phase me and i open the door and walk in.
now i already rtff on tulips, so i wasn't expecting anything, but to be honest, this place is a fucking dump,
all i see at first are two beauty salon style chairs and two girls in them (who pay me no attention). this is strange i think as all the other places i've been (and haven't been for that matter) have someone opening the door for me, a gaggle of birds sitting about smiling up at me, but not this place.
the girl i had followed in and turns out she is the mama-san. i walk up to the desk and mama-san is checking her books or something and then looks up at me with a fucking glare that would tear the souls from a 1000 angels and deliver them to lucifer himself and spits out "how long". no hello, no smile, no "sa-what dee-ka", no politeness, nothing.
i look at the menu and indicate i would like 90min and before i can say anything she yells out to one of the girls and turns away to do something. i wasn't asked to look at a book, i didn't get a chance to look at a book and to be honest, the girl who she called out was standing next to me already at this point with a huge smile on her face and i just couldn't bring myself to demand i look at the book.
now i take full responsibility for this as one of my character flaws (if we want to call it that) is i can't bring myself to not care about people's feelings regardless if they are p4p workers or not.
i'm led into a very small room which again going with the whole "shitty dump theme" i'm not surprised and at this point my expectations are so low that as long as i don't smell anything rancid or see a dead body laying on the floor i won't be shocked.
out of the shower onto the bed where there is just a blue towel on it (i'm guessing there are no sheet changes here but maybe they do) and there is a pillow for your head and i'm also wondering at this point if each new guy gets a fresh pillow case. again, if the place didn't look the way it did i probably wouldn't be thinking this, hell, maybe this place is cleaner then some of the other places i've been too but i was fooled by the shiny exterior!
my heart rate is increasing at this point and not because i'm excited, i'm thinking "i don't want her pussy anywhere near my uncovered cock", so i make adjustments in my body to prevent this mostly and she then puts it between her thighs and moves up and down and finally gives me a bbbj. now, the girl has skills, there is no denying it, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, there is just zero interest on my part and no chemistry.
after this i just want to get the hell out of here because honestly, being mostly new to the p4p scene i'm still a bit nervous about it and the atmosphere and experience here just didn't help things at all. rose tells me to lay down again and relax and i try to, but i'm just not feeling good and i really want to hop in the shower and wash myself a 1000 times to see if soap, water and chemicals can scrub this whole experience from my mind.
just to be clear though, there was nothing noticeably unclean about rose, or the room itself, just everything i've mentioned here was just too much for me.editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Why would anyone barfine an LL girl for those prices ? Some people have more money than sense, or simply they are to fat and lazy to be bothered to go out and get better quality for better value.
But thats their choice.
OK the baseline. At 35BHT to $1.00 an 800 BHT BarFine is roughly $23.00. A 1000BHT BF is $28.00 and a 1500BHT BF is $43.00. So, the difference between the 800BF and the 1500BF is $20.00, or an $8.00 difference between 800BHT and 1000BHT.
So, maybe you’re a lowly civil servant toiling away in what feels like perpetuity. Or perhaps you are a middleclass guy with a wife and some kids stretching to make end meet and maybe “get a little ahead”, or perhaps you are a businessman who watches EVERY penny and beams with pride when viewing bank balances that will undoubtedly be left to someone who surely appreciates the money less than you who covet it so dearly as to demean those who spend it “too freely” on things you would not.
I don’t know and nor do I want to. That’s between you and whomever you answer to.
But I do know that I’m neither fat nor lazy, really not much more than occasionally stupid though I sometimes speak when in fact I should just shut-up, moderately successful (at least by USA major city standards) and tend not to spend money “foolishly”.
That being said, there isn’t much inconvenience I would endure to save 20 bucks in BKK. I doubt I would walk more than a block out of my way, I wouldn’t not eat somewhere to save $20, I won’t traipse around an airport to save it on taxifare and I CERTAINLY would not pass on a woman or 3 that I wanted to fuck because she/they wanted $20 more. NEVER! Not unless I had to. Many of us don’t and never will.
So, with that being said, I suggest a re-examination of both compass and propensity for misjudgment are in order lest someone mistake you for a poor bitter man…
IMHO of course,
Buenos suerte,
Rjsss212
Member #3428
08-28-09, 20:49
Why would anyone barfine an LL girl for those prices ? Some people have more money than sense, or simply they are to fat and lazy to be bothered to go out and get better quality for better value.
But thats their choice.
This topic has been debated a million times. You know that Soi 33 will always have a steady flow of customers as not everyone wants to mess through NEP / Cowboy etc... There's a niche market for everything in BKK. Just like SOL / Lolitta's has it's market, Eden has it's market, Soi 33 has it's market.
Most customers go to this area for just the hostess type bar, non smoking, not loud brash music, just hang out with work friends. Older and more well off men then other bars visit these places as the prices are higher. But compared to many countries the price is not high and many guys do NOT want to mess with NEP or Nana area or such.
And it's kind of funny but many girls get taken as permanent GF's from soi 33 very often by fat lazy rich guys and the girls know this. So it's more of a hunting ground for the girls then cowboy or other places are. The girls are more educated (ie can speak english and are sneakier then hell).
But lately with the bad economy, many bar girls on soi 33 did turn to a more loose open more like "cowboy" approach.
Divine Baal
08-28-09, 21:52
OK the baseline. At 35BHT to $1.00 an 800 BHT BarFine is roughly $23.00. A 1000BHT BF is $28.00 and a 1500BHT BF is $43.00. So, the difference between the 800BF and the 1500BF is $20.00, or an $8.00 difference between 800BHT and 1000BHT.
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I agree. No one is really forcing you either to do anything. Sure, raising the local price sucks.. but I come to LOS for 2-3 weeks and I spend a normal thai year salary on fun so of course the ladies up the rates as much as they can.
I always compare with p4p elsewhere. Like "home" in europe.. 450 USD for 60 min. Or.. 200 USD for some poon in Seoul... So YES - it is "wrong" for them to up the price just "because" we could afford it but it sets a standard that should be frown upon. Also IMHO.
Considering I do hundreds of P4P in a year (as I am one of these "lucky" people who is not a short term holiday tourist here in Asia), 20$ per time runs into many thousands of dollars per year.
If you are lazy enough to pay 20$ more for a bar fine you are also probably paying 20$ to 40$ more to the girl as her tip. Its often as they say, fools and money soon depart company.
So minimum lets say you paying 40$ per time more than needed.
Run that past 200 times a year and that is 8000$ more to pay annually.
As you can see, when you do this on a small scale as say a tourist then its a few hundred dollars.
For us people who really do monger, all the time, then you appreciate that the increased costs are not minimal, and we professional mongers appreciate value and getting the most bang for your buck.
So please, whilst you evaluate your little world and your little holiday/s, do not presume to know other peoples lives or habit or simply underestimating the volume of fun they are having in one year.
LL (Livingstones Lodge) is overpriced for rooms, its overpriced for bar fines and its overpriced for girls.
But whilst it can merilly make money from often lazy USA tourists (not all, but often) then good luck to them.
OK the baseline. At 35BHT to $1.00 an 800 BHT BarFine is roughly $23.00. A 1000BHT BF is $28.00 and a 1500BHT BF is $43.00. So, the difference between the 800BF and the 1500BF is $20.00, or an $8.00 difference between 800BHT and 1000BHT.
So, maybe you’re a lowly civil servant toiling away in what feels like perpetuity. Or perhaps you are a middleclass guy with a wife and some kids stretching to make end meet and maybe “get a little ahead”, or perhaps you are a businessman who watches EVERY penny and beams with pride when viewing bank balances that will undoubtedly be left to someone who surely appreciates the money less than you who covet it so dearly as to demean those who spend it “too freely” on things you would not.
I don’t know and nor do I want to. That’s between you and whomever you answer to.
But I do know that I’m neither fat nor lazy, really not much more than occasionally stupid though I sometimes speak when in fact I should just shut-up, moderately successful (at least by USA major city standards) and tend not to spend money “foolishly”.
That being said, there isn’t much inconvenience I would endure to save 20 bucks in BKK. I doubt I would walk more than a block out of my way, I wouldn’t not eat somewhere to save $20, I won’t traipse around an airport to save it on taxifare and I CERTAINLY would not pass on a woman or 3 that I wanted to fuck because she/they wanted $20 more. NEVER! Not unless I had to. Many of us don’t and never will.
So, with that being said, I suggest a re-examination of both compass and propensity for misjudgment are in order lest someone mistake you for a poor bitter man…
IMHO of course,
Buenos suerte,
Rjsss212
Frazer
Good response. I agree with most of your comments, with one exception see below. Tulip is for the most part a safe and clean place and for most farang punters it's one of the few 'safe bets' in Bangkok and certainly good value for money if you're quite new to the Thailand scene. The quality of service, in my experience, is unparalleled there.
However, I disagree with you about unprotected sex in Tulip. I had it on my second visit there. I was not a victim in this situation, I was as much to blame as she was and events just sort of took over. But if it happened to me on my second vist, and I'm no Brad Pitt nor John Holmes, then it most certainly can happen to anyone. Indeed, this is true throughout Thailand. From my experience, girls from Thailand, Phillipines, China, Indonesia, Cambodia etc care much less about the risks of unprotected sex than most of us farangs/gringos/gweilos.
Hi Dainoji.
Finally, concerning her pussy getting close to your unprotected willy, I think I can reassure you that such a "mistake" as a bareback penetration will never take place. Unless you look like Brad Pitt and have a dick like John Holmes I mean.
So, all in all, in my case the bad experience depended on the fact that I was not feeling comfortable with the whole situation. A place like Tulip, on the first time, can be emotionally tough and all the details you mentioned do not help with this feeling of uneasiness. Maybe it was just the same for you.
If I can give you a suggestion, have a look at Snow White. The parlor practically belongs to the same owners but is smaller, brand new, clean and definitely does not look as gray and depressive as Tulip. There is a larger room with an armchair, you may ask for that one. The staff is very friendly, included the mamasan and the "assistant". The girls, in average, look a bit better than Tulip's even if the performance is not always at the same level. Some names: Om (like in from) is very young and very cute, she is about 150 for 37/38 kgs and has a beautiful face and a bright smile. No children, no english, no anal, no long experience, but for the rest she is up to anything.
Fa. If you want a real GFE but also a back door for willy to play she may be the right person. Acceptable look, no kids, nice and firm breasts. New on the job (like most of SW girls) she still lacks a bit of experience but is totally eager to please: she can do everything you want.
Enjoy!
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However, I disagree with you about unprotected sex in Tulip. I had it on my second visit there. I was not a victim in this situation, I was as much to blame as she was and events just sort of took over. But if it happened to me on my second vist, and I'm no Brad Pitt nor John Holmes, then it most certainly can happen to anyone. Indeed, this is true throughout Thailand. From my experience, girls from Thailand, Phillipines, China, Indonesia, Cambodia etc care much less about the risks of unprotected sex than most of us farangs/gringos/gweilos.Hi Artful!
You surprised me here. In many visits to T. I've never had the feeling that a request for bareback could actually be accepted, leave alone proposed by the girl (7/8 girls in my palmarès). Maybe it is my body language (I always use the condom, no doubts, no exceptions) or maybe it's the girls I was with.
To your knowledge was that an isolated case?
Hi Artful!
You surprised me here. In many visits to T. I've never had the feeling that a request for bareback could actually be accepted, leave alone proposed by the girl (7/8 girls in my palmarès). Maybe it is my body language (I always use the condom, no doubts, no exceptions) or maybe it's the girls I was with.
To your knowledge was that an isolated case?
Read the Tulip's Thread and take note of the discussion from earlier this year about BB sex. After reading those reports you will know if Artful's encounter was isolated or not.
Member #3428
08-29-09, 08:52
To your knowledge was that an isolated case?
HELL NO it's not isolated...
Suntangh R
08-29-09, 09:19
Considering I do hundreds of P4P in a year (as I am one of these "lucky" people who is not a short term holiday tourist here in Asia), 20$ per time runs into many thousands of dollars per year.
If you are lazy enough to pay 20$ more for a bar fine you are also probably paying 20$ to 40$ more to the girl as her tip. Its often as they say, fools and money soon depart company.
So minimum lets say you paying 40$ per time more than needed.
Run that past 200 times a year and that is 8000$ more to pay annually.
As you can see, when you do this on a small scale as say a tourist then its a few hundred dollars.
For us people who really do monger, all the time, then you appreciate that the increased costs are not minimal, and we professional mongers appreciate value and getting the most bang for your buck.
So please, whilst you evaluate your little world and your little holiday/s, do not presume to know other peoples lives or habit or simply underestimating the volume of fun they are having in one year.
LL (Livingstones Lodge) is overpriced for rooms, its overpriced for bar fines and its overpriced for girls.
But whilst it can merilly make money from often lazy USA tourists (not all, but often) then good luck to them.Mr Pro!
I stand in awe of your sexual poweress! Could you please enlighten me_ what is a " Professional Monger"
Payforplaybkk
08-29-09, 10:22
A while ago I wrote on these boards about G-Clubs in Bangkok where you can basically pay for the company of a Thai girl while drinking, dancing and watching some live entertainment. It's a very different and more expensive scene than go-go bars, and in most cases the women will not go home with you. On the upside the women are usually much more attractive and have more balanced, normal lives. It's a fun alternative to the other offerings in Bangkok.
I highly recommend you try a new G-Club that opened up in the same place of the old KaraFun. Which used to be an afterhours party place. This G-Club has a very different concept. All of the women there actually sing and dance themselves on stage. It's sometimes like watching American Idol! The club is set up like a swanky lounge and is more low-key and classy than your typical G-Club. However, I was really blown away by the performing talent on stage (they practice quite a bit from what I was told with quite a few English songs). And a few of the girls are truly among the most stunning looking in Thailand. Also came across some who speak really good English and are more worldly (e. G. Have passports and have actually stepped outside Thailand).
The only downside is cost. Membership here is 20K baht and serves like a prepaid card for drinks, mixers and lady time ( 350 baht for 40 minutes). The membership gets you 20% off these costs, but a typical evening can easily run you 5K. This membership structure is VERY different and MORE costly than other clubs such as Caribbean where I'm a member and for the same 20K baht you get 10 bottles of liquor and unlimited free mixers. Unfortunately they are shutting down Caribbean next month. Not enough business. And memberships are actually being transferred to KaraFun (from what I've been told). If you want to enjoy KaraFun without a membership, you have to open up a bottle of alcohol (2, 000 baht) and you don't get the 20% discount.
If you're living/working in Thailand and have some money, a G-Club is not a bad venue to meet and date a quality Thai girl. You'll get someone who is on average much more attractive and "high society". These women make good money, often have their own apartments and even own a car. From my experience, if you click well with one of these women, it's easy to get a phone number at the end of the night and score a dinner the next day. One recommendation is avoid hotels. These women are very sensitive to being seen by others as a go-go girl and are generally uncomfortable in hotel type settings. Also, it's fun to "barfine" these G-Club girls. About 4500-6000 baht and you can take them outside the club. However, if a girl likes you, she may be willing to call in unavailable to the G-Club and ask you to pay the penalty which may only be 1, 000 baht.
Again, it's a very different scene and not for everyone. But would definitely give the new KaraFun a try at least once for a very different experience.
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HELL NO it's not isolated...Isolated from what?
Traveler1234
08-29-09, 11:43
11pm it reduces from 1,500 to 1,000BHT, if I remember correctly.
And down to 700 at closing
FlyingVisitor
08-29-09, 12:26
"..... However, I disagree with you about unprotected sex in Tulip. I had it on my second visit there. I was not a victim in this situation, I was as much to blame as she was and events just sort of took over. But if it happened to me on my second vist, and I'm no Brad Pitt nor John Holmes, then it most certainly can happen to anyone. Indeed, this is true throughout Thailand. From my experience, girls from Thailand, Phillipines, China, Indonesia, Cambodia etc care much less about the risks of unprotected sex than most of us farangs/gringos/gweilos.You are absolutely right, Artful.
BB -FS is still popular in different places. 2 weeks ago I went to SOL in Patpong (My favourite "harbor"). I enjoyed a perfect BJ when a second lady approached and tried to jump on my lap. Within one second my "boy" was hidden in her pussy - and felt quite happy in changed surroundings. -
Also recent visits to Tulip gave me the experience that there is no question at all to enter the holes uncovered.
Stay healthy !
F.V.
You are absolutely right, Artful.
BB. FS is still popular in different places. 2 weeks ago I went to SOL in Patpong (My favourite "harbor"). I enjoyed a perfect BJ when a second lady approached and tried to jump on my lap. Within one second my "boy" was hidden in her pussy. And felt quite happy in changed surroundings..
Also recent visits to Tulip gave me the experience that there is no question at all to enter the holes uncovered.
Stay healthy!By the way flying. Sometime ago I was also a frequent flyer in sol. Paid only each round Baht 500. Do you pay nowadays also 500 as frequent flyer or is it for all patron the same 700?
CM2 has had Russian girls for many years. I haven't been there for a long time, but the most recent information I have (January 2009) is that there are still plenty of Russians there, but at a fairly high price. My most recent info on the Rajah (from last week) is that the price is 2600 THB for on-site ST. A papasan takes you from the lobby to a second floor room to make your choice, and then the girl takes you to another room upstairs to do the deed. Apparently there's an additional 100 THB for condoms if you don't have your own.We were in CM2 last week, lots of quality eastern europeans( not all russians) charging 3,500 to 4,000 for a short time. A lot of Thai girls there to who were much cheaper but high quality.
Member #4537
08-29-09, 15:37
From my experience, girls from Thailand, Phillipines, China, Indonesia, Cambodia etc care much less about the risks of unprotected sex than most of us farangs/gringos/gweilos.
Have to disagree with you about the Chinese... they are very insistent on the condoms. No problem getting BB from any of the other nationalities though, especially Indonesian and to a lesser extent Philipines (must be due to Islam and Catholicism). But here in Egypt it is 100% unprotected (more so than Asian countries).
Considering I do hundreds of P4P in a year (as I am one of these "lucky" people who is not a short term holiday tourist here in Asia), 20$ per time runs into many thousands of dollars per year.
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LL (Livingstones Lodge) is overpriced for rooms, its overpriced for bar fines and its overpriced for girls.
...
The Pro,
I see, I have a new friend :) ...
Overpriced - is that so? How do you know? Doing HUNDREDS of P4P a year will hardly leave time enough to visit our place and enjoy TIME in a nice environment...
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Hi Artful!
You surprised me here. In many visits to T. I've never had the feeling that a request for bareback could actually be accepted, leave alone proposed by the girl (7/8 girls in my palmarès). Maybe it is my body language (I always use the condom, no doubts, no exceptions) or maybe it's the girls I was with.
To your knowledge was that an isolated case?
Just wanted to throw in my two cents, most definitely not an unexpected or rare occurrence. While it is true that most gals most likely will not accept requests for BB service, if they like you and have a good feeling, events do have a way of taking over and it happens repeatedly..i never make the request, but the number of times we both get carried away is far more than just coincidence..and i've talked to enough of the girls about it to know that they do it with others...everyone knows they are playing Russian Roulette, but it's like anything else we do that is foolish or stupid and dont necessarily learn from until it may be too late...
Seemed similar to the cheaper Thai-oriented Petchaburi massage parlors.
i go a lot to Thai oriented Petchaburi places, and i find the gals for the most part a cut above anything i find in Sukhumvit (the places i go to charge 1700-1900 for sideliners, 1300-1600 for fishbowl)...
Considering I do hundreds of P4P in a year (as I am one of these "lucky" people who is not a short term holiday tourist here in Asia), 20$ per time runs into many thousands of dollars per year.
If you are lazy enough to pay 20$ more for a bar fine you are also probably paying 20$ to 40$ more to the girl as her tip. Its often as they say, fools and money soon depart company.
So minimum lets say you paying 40$ per time more than needed.
Run that past 200 times a year and that is 8000$ more to pay annually.
As you can see, when you do this on a small scale as say a tourist then its a few hundred dollars.
For us people who really do monger, all the time, then you appreciate that the increased costs are not minimal, and we professional mongers appreciate value and getting the most bang for your buck.
So please, whilst you evaluate your little world and your little holiday/s, do not presume to know other peoples lives or habit or simply underestimating the volume of fun they are having in one year.
LL (Livingstones Lodge) is overpriced for rooms, its overpriced for bar fines and its overpriced for girls.
But whilst it can merilly make money from often lazy USA tourists (not all, but often) then good luck to them.
After having destroyed the thread on ANNIE, the self appointed PRO is now moving to this thread, spreading his intolerance and arrogance as a virus..
Well, I am perhaps what you call an amateur, and yes, I am a tourist, lucky enough NOT to have to resort to mongering every day of my life ..
When in BKK, for only a few days, I love a comfortable environment, and yes, I am lazy, I appreciate the cosiness of paying a bit more to avoid meeting people like you. Yes, I don't give a damn to pay an extra 20 $ for my comfort..and, yes, i TIP!!!!!! Oh my God, what an anathema!!!!! The good news, though, is that i won't meet you at LL during my next visit. I hope Giotto keeps his prices where they are, so people like you don't come.
I could not give a dam about your problem, I am not here to help pennyless cheap Charlies. You monger with your means, I monger with mine...
So please do what you want, pay what you want, go where you want and leave those who do differently in peace..
And, BTW, I am not American, there is nothing more vile and uneduacted than stereotyping like this..
Considering I do hundreds of P4P in a year (as I am one of these "lucky" people who is not a short term holiday tourist here in Asia), 20$ per time runs into many thousands of dollars per year.
If you are lazy enough to pay 20$ more for a bar fine you are also probably paying 20$ to 40$ more to the girl as her tip. Its often as they say, fools and money soon depart company.
So minimum lets say you paying 40$ per time more than needed.
Run that past 200 times a year and that is 8000$ more to pay annually.
As you can see, when you do this on a small scale as say a tourist then its a few hundred dollars.
For us people who really do monger, all the time, then you appreciate that the increased costs are not minimal, and we professional mongers appreciate value and getting the most bang for your buck.
So please, whilst you evaluate your little world and your little holiday/s, do not presume to know other peoples lives or habit or simply underestimating the volume of fun they are having in one year.
LL (Livingstones Lodge) is overpriced for rooms, its overpriced for bar fines and its overpriced for girls.
But whilst it can merilly make money from often lazy USA tourists (not all, but often) then good luck to them.
Is this the "comedy hour"?
...professional mongers....
...hundreds (I rate at least 200, then) of P4P
etc etc
Be happy that there are tourists as if the "market" would be left to guys like you, soon the girls will head back home as their pussies will be worn out and with no money in their pockets.
And so be it for LL.
Being a resident there, why do you bother at the prices of an hotel there.
Nobody ever sleeps at an hotel in his home town.
That shows that probably flaming is your more practiced job and hand- blow- j. stay confined in your dream world
The Pro,
I see, I have a new friend :) ...
Overpriced - is that so? How do you know? Doing HUNDREDS of P4P a year will hardly leave time enough to visit our place and enjoy TIME in a nice environment...
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.thMr G - I think that the handle "The Pro" might mean "Professional" Agitator. Given his self-absorbed commentary of his alleged mongering activities, I too am not surprised he has no time to enjoy your fine establishment.
It's noteworthy that many posters on this forum, often critical of you and your fine business, have come and (thankfully) gone. But you my friend, are still here. That says more than many words.
Styk
Well on two issues "The Pro" is right:
LL has very overpriced rooms as same quality rooms and service can be get for half that price nowadays. And barfines are steep just because Giotto likes to keep up with other venues in Soi 33.
The other point I agree on is that tipping in Thailand is not nessecary at all. Why should I tip a girl when we agreed on a price? For the agreed price I may expect top quality. Same as you may expect when you buy a car! And why should I tip at a bar? For filling up my glass or opening my bottle? Same as with taxi drivers. At those I only round off to the nearest 5 baht when I do not have any change at me. Tipping is such an American thing. Please keep it in the US, and don't spoil the rest of the world with it.
Mr Pro!
I stand in awe of your sexual poweress! Could you please enlighten me_ what is a " Professional Monger"It means doing it all the time, everyday if possible, wherever you are. Its not a two weeks a year hobby, or something you do from time to time, it is something you do all the time where possible. If your not doing 200 P4P annually year in year out then try harder :)
Giotto,
Did I say it was not a nice enviroment ? It is homely yes, but sady overpriced compared to the competition in all aspects.
You know why you have your crew of "patrons" posting on BB forums trying to get you business.
You, as does Annie, actively promote the posting and "marketing" of LL through internet forums, attempting to get as many references as possible to get first timers and others into your establishment.
THIS IS NOT in the interests of mongers.
BB's free of paid for references is good. Do you offer discounts to BB posters ? Do you give away free drinks or food to your friends who post on here ? Just like Aey at Annies gives discounts to posters and free drinks to those who help her maintain her image on the forums.
People need to be aware that Annies and LL have lots of poster who support them, who also obtain benefits from those establishments or have personal friends there.
This means biased reporting, lots of references to, and in general the need for everyone else to be reminded of this from time to time, so they do not fall for the marketing spin.
I would not tell anyone not to try these places, but I would say be very wary of beleiving the hype of the "paid for in kind" references you will see around the BB's.
This is what makes BB's good. Its called differing opinions and allowing people to make up their own mind.
The Pro,
I see, I have a new friend :) ...
Overpriced - is that so? How do you know? Doing HUNDREDS of P4P a year will hardly leave time enough to visit our place and enjoy TIME in a nice environment...
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
After having destroyed the thread on ANNIE, the self appointed PRO is now moving to this thread, spreading his intolerance and arrogance as a virus..
Well, I am perhaps what you call an amateur, and yes, I am a tourist, lucky enough NOT to have to resort to mongering every day of my life ..
When in BKK, for only a few days, I love a comfortable environment, and yes, I am lazy, I appreciate the cosiness of paying a bit more to avoid meeting people like you. Yes, I don't give a damn to pay an extra 20 $ for my comfort..and, yes, i TIP!!!!!! Oh my God, what an anathema!!!!! The good news, though, is that i won't meet you at LL during my next visit. I hope Giotto keeps his prices where they are, so people like you don't come.
I could not give a dam about your problem, I am not here to help pennyless cheap Charlies. You monger with your means, I monger with mine...
So please do what you want, pay what you want, go where you want and leave those who do differently in peace..
And, BTW, I am not American, there is nothing more vile and uneduacted than stereotyping like this..
Dreams,
Good post.
I will be paying attention to future ones.
Nicely put. Do as you wish, and screw those who disagree.
Hello
What is the usual cost for 1 week / 1 month booking of Bargirls?
(huge barfine + full time pay for the girl ?)
Basically i'm looking to rent a house (like from http://www.soho-properties.com)
Get 2-3 girls, have ourselves tested and spend 3 to 7 weeks of "creampiethais".
Kinda like http://xhamster.com/movies/120796/thai_sexsion_2_n15.html
Does it seem "doable" or would "too risky (HIV) and too hard to pull off"?
...
Did I say it was not a nice enviroment ? It is homely yes, but sady overpriced compared to the competition in all aspects.
...
The Pro,
Who is the competition you are talking about?
What resort-style hotel with huge swimming pool, Thai restaurant, Steak House and Sports Lounge / Hostess bar is located in the Sukhumvit area close to the Sky Train in the center of one of Bangkok's nightlife areas?
And ... all-day breakfast ... internet included in the room rates ... SE Asia Joes plastic chairs :D ... Jacuzzis ... Double-Jacuzzis ... and me, sitting all day outside at my desk consulting and helping the inexperienced :) ... where do you get this service bundle AT ALL here in Bangkok?
...
You know why you have your crew of "patrons" posting on BB forums trying to get you business.
You, as does Annie, actively promote the posting and "marketing" of LL through internet forums, attempting to get as many references as possible to get first timers and others into your establishment.
...
What is a BB forum? Bed & Breakfast?
Now, I cannot speak for Annies, but I am promoting the place here in the ISG, since years now, and everybody knows it. So - why is that a problem for you?
...
THIS IS NOT in the interests of mongers.
...
Oh, I am not so sure about that. I think that many people are quite happy to come to a place like Livingstone's Lodge to meet other ISG members and get fast and precise information about the actual scene here in Bangkok.
...
BB's free of paid for references is good. Do you offer discounts to BB posters ? Do you give away free drinks or food to your friends who post on here ? Just like Aey at Annies gives discounts to posters and free drinks to those who help her maintain her image on the forums.
...
No, I do not! The reports guys write here in this forum to get our discound do not necessarily need to contain anything about Livingstone's Lodge. They do not need to write in my forum, they can even criticise Livingstone's Lodge if something went wrong - and they STILL get the ISG discount. This discount shall support the ISG, develop writing members and add interesting reports. That's basically the target of it.
...
People need to be aware that ... LL have lots of poster who support them, who also obtain benefits from those establishments or have personal friends there.
...
This means biased reporting...
...
I would not tell anyone not to try these places, but I would say be very wary of beleiving the hype of the "paid for in kind" references you will see around the BB's.
...
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to do some marketing for Livingstone's Lodge :). Please, go ahead!!!
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
M P Lurker
08-30-09, 08:59
A lot of touristy stuff for me lately, in Chiangmai and Mae Hong Son.
But still had time for just a little mongering in BKK. Each time was late on Saturday night which is a very bad time to go to an MP (usually). So ended up at Soi Cowboy.
Previous Sat, went to Shark and was very busy. Plenty of girls (girl badge numbers go up to 100) and full of customers. Chose a very pretty girl P, perhaps number 8, who kissed evry nicely despite teeth braces. Took her for short time, and she was very good in all respects, except one.
Although no baby, her pussy seemed to be amoungst the most cavenous I have experienced, and so felt like was flopping around in there a bit. Now how do you screen girls for this during the selection process? .
Probably should have asked for anal instead, but had a good time anyway as was sex starved (for all of 3 days) beforehand. Probably wouldn't repeat though. Shark had a few onther pretty ones.
This Sat went to Soi Cowboy again and was with two other ISGers who by chance decided to go at the same time. Mr D found his girl outside Baccara, so we went in and soon his girl called two others over. One asked my name. When I asked her name, she obviously misheard as she replied "Tequilla". Someone else said Hello, to a different girl and she replied "4000 long time".
It was clearly time to eject the unwanted girls with no chemistry and make a careful selection. Mr P asked what was my selection criteria. I said that I looked for a pretty face first, good slim body second, preferably no silicone. But when I actually did the process. I discovered I use other criteria. I spyed the back of the very last girl on the podium wearing black see through stuff (quite revealing) but she was obscured by other girls. I could see her body was good and hair and head shape good. The main thing was that she was a standout as the dancer with the most sexy moves without being too nasty. I had to leave my seat and circumnavigate the podium to get a better look at her. Although number 95 with the head band had a prettier face, my selected girl was nice looking, good body and not seeming to put on any fake show for me. I indicated to come and sit with me.
Some guys will say that you must select a girl that makes a lot of eye-contact with you, smiles at you, plays up to you etc. But I like a girl that is very natural. Its normal that girls will look at themselves or other girls in the mirrors, rather than spending time staring at the often ugly customers. It makes sense that the girls will look bored at times. It makes sense that her vigourous dancing will be limited as the bar is a bit too hot. Air con limited.
Its normal for new girls not to be playing up to customers all the time.
After the dance bracket she showed up and turned out to be miss Wi who could speak English well and Japanese a bit too. She was an ex Angel Witch girl but had mamasan problems there. The bar opens some days till 3 or 4 AM if no Police around.
My girl was nice enough to indicate after her next dance bracket that another Farang, having seen my interest in the girl, tried to BF her, but she declined saying she a customer already to give me the chance. Many girls will not do this for fear of losing.
I quickly got her BFed as I could see the personality was nice and not faked.
She went with me with no discussion of money at all.
In the room, I helped her put Moisturising lotion on her body and turned it into a sexy massage, after she relaxed with a beer and cigarette (showered before that). I found some little tricks to get her moaning and hot for it.
Her BBBJ was heavenly (not sure if tongue stud assisted).
9 out of 10 for that and scores 8 for normal kissing.
Then she climbed on and rode me in different ways for some time, me in underneath submissive position. Eventually we tried mish and doggy too.
After we were spent, she asked if I wanted to shower again. I said yes, of course, but lets rest for 5 mins. Within 5 mins she was asleep as I went to shower.
Stayed till 11AM, when I started to feel sick, but fortuantrely had managed to get in a morning round before that. Finally gave her some well earned cash and she was satisfied. Suggested I should go to she her sexy show at about 9:30PM tonight.
Definitely a girl to repeat with. Very GFE.
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Well on two issues "The Pro" is right:
LL has very overpriced rooms as same quality rooms and service can be get for half that price nowadays. And barfines are steep just because Der Hermann, oeps, Giotto likes to keep up with other venues in Soi 33.
The other point I agree on is that tipping in Thailand is not nessecary at all. Why should I tip a girl when we agreed on a price? For the agreed price I may expect top quality. Same as you may expect when you buy a car! And why should I tip at a bar? For filling up my glass or opening my bottle? Same as with taxi drivers. At those I only round off to the nearest 5 baht when I do not have any change at me. Tipping is such an American thing. Please keep it in the US, and don't spoil the rest of the world with it.
Really?
Have you ever travelled anywhere? In Italy, France for example? In Africa, India?
The only country I know where tipping is truly unexpected is Japan...
Please stop this stupid anti-american rant.. (BTW, i am not American...)
It means doing it all the time, everyday if possible, wherever you are. Its not a two weeks a year hobby, or something you do from time to time, it is something you do all the time where possible. If your not doing 200 P4P annually year in year out then try harder :)Seriously, do you think this is healthy? Do you have psychological issues? I genuinely don't wish to be rude, but do you think it is a very meaningful or productive existence you lead?
For most people here, myself included, mongering is a very enjoyable hobby not a way of life. I just think there needs to be a balance between the pleasures of the flesh and of the mind. Apologies if you are a normal well-rounded human being, with other interests and a good social life, but I do wonder...
Giotto,
Do you give away free drinks or food to your friends who post on here ?
Fuck no !!!
I wish ;)
I have paid for every solitary drink I have ever consumed at LL. (and there have been a few). There are no free drinks, no free lunch, no free anything.
I had lunch outside the other day with G, served by mrs G who runs a delicious food stand outside the hotel.
She hit me up for my 30 bt, AND the lunch G had too. He thought it was very funny, as had he eaten there alone, she would not have asked him for money.
BESTARD ;)
And barfines are steep just because Der Hermann, oeps, Giotto likes to keep up with other venues in Soi 33.
Titanio, that was VERY uncool.
no matter how many people have met Giotto, and who know him personally, we do not use people's names here.
Of course, you could give us YOUR real name, and address.............
Giotto,
Did I say it was not a nice enviroment ? It is homely yes, but sady overpriced compared to the competition in all aspects…
THIS IS NOT in the interests of mongers…
The Pro,
Who is the competition you are talking about? …
…You obviously don't know what you are talking about…Giotto…
Thanks, guys, for showing us that we can still enjoy a good clean entertaining fight on the forum from time to time.
This is what the Fight Club used to be.
Mouse, its very healthy, and in fact I feel sad for the people who cannot have the basic freedom and lifestyle to do this.
You live and you die. Thats the sum of it.
What you do in between those two events is all you have.
Enjoying the pleasures of the flesh is the ultimate pleasure, there is no greater pleasure.
The most miserable people are often portrayed as the most "successful ones".
If you know of something that is more pleasurable than sex, please let me know what it is, as in life everything leads to sex.
People crave money so they can enjoy life by being able to do whatever they want. People crave fame as they want the power that comes with it. But it all boils down to sex at the end.
Bill Gates may have lots of money, but he will die having probably only slept with maybe 10 girls.
I will die having fcuked over 2500 (I hope, I am over 2000 now).
He will be sick and feeble and maybe wishing he had done more with his life.
I will be sick and feeble with a big grin on my face thinking of all those fabulous times :)
Seriously, do you think this is healthy? Do you have psychological issues? I genuinely don't wish to be rude, but do you think it is a very meaningful or productive existence you lead?
For most people here, myself included, mongering is a very enjoyable hobby not a way of life. I just think there needs to be a balance between the pleasures of the flesh and of the mind. Apologies if you are a normal well-rounded human being, with other interests and a good social life, but I do wonder...
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This is what the Fight Club used to be.Daddy07,
Nah - that's called "Marketing" :) .
Giotto
PS: The Pro, get over here for your free Tom Yum Kung, you have really earned it!
Bill Gates may have lots of money, but he will die having probably only slept with maybe 10 girls.
He will be sick and feeble and maybe wishing he had done more with his life.
You are absolutely right. He will ABSOLUTELY wish he had done more with his life.
After all, he only created one of the biggest software conglomerates in the world, and now spends his time helping other people. I can see why he would feel like he hadn't accomplished anything, whereas you, on the other hand, will have fucked 2500 girls you had to pay. WOW.
Mouse, its very healthy, and in fact I feel sad for the people who cannot have the basic freedom and lifestyle to do this.
You live and you die. Thats the sum of it.
What you do in between those two events is all you have.
Enjoying the pleasures of the flesh is the ultimate pleasure, there is no greater pleasure.
The most miserable people are often portrayed as the most "successful ones".
If you know of something that is more pleasurable than sex, please let me know what it is, as in life everything leads to sex.Well, I agree nothing matches the intensity of sex for those few minutes...
But, if I was offered a week of skiing, a week of diving, a week of holidaying with my family and a week in Pattaya, or 4 weeks in Pattaya, I know which I would pick. OK, so I'll never get that choice :-). But seriously, when you are on your deathbed, how many of those 2500 sexual encounters will you actually recall? Or would you rather be looking back on a life full of rich and varied experiences?
Just read an article somewhere saying 'if you do one extraordinary thing every year' for 20 years you will die a happy man. I can relate to that...
Anyway, all I am saying is that I think one needs a bit of variety in life to appreciate some of those earthly pleasures. perhaps you manage that variety, I don't know.
Reminds me of the joke: 3 men saying how often they have sex - first says once a day with a bored look, second says once a month with a smile, the third says once a year with a huge grin. Why? "Tonight's the night!".
Reminds me of the joke: 3 men saying how often they have sex - first says once a day with a bored look, second says once a month with a smile, the third says once a year with a huge grin. Why? "Tonight's the night!".Reminds me of the 80 year old western guy I met in Bangkok last week. He has lived there 5 years, but was sitting on a street bench crying. When I asked him what was wrong, he said he married a hot 20 year old girl a month ago - she cooks and looks after him, and gives great massages and great sex every night. I said, "Well why are you crying? You should be happy!" He replied "I forget where I live".
whereas you, on the other hand, will have fucked 2500 girls you had to pay. WOW.
That's money well spent!
Hello
What is the usual cost for 1 week / 1 month booking of Bargirls?
(huge barfine + full time pay for the girl ?)
Basically i'm looking to rent a house (like from http://www.soho-properties.com)
Get 2-3 girls, have ourselves tested and spend 3 to 7 weeks of "creampiethais".
Kinda like http://xhamster.com/movies/120796/thai_sexsion_2_n15.html
Does it seem "doable" or would "too risky (HIV) and too hard to pull off"?
Technically it is doable, I think, but would you like to stick to the same 2-3 girls for a period of 3 to 7 weeks?
IMHO it might get boring.
I second a certain degree of continuity as it adds mutual knowledge
But in a place like BKK where choices and opportunities pop up every five minutes, I would be reluctant to stick to the same girls for so long. Even if they are fun
If you RTFF you will notice some guys select a girl and bar fine her for the evening and then, maybe after 30 minutes they see another they rate better and "regret" the early booking...
My few cents...
Mr Enternational
08-30-09, 20:34
Well, I agree nothing matches the intensity of sex for those few minutes...But seriously, when you are on your deathbed, how many of those 2500 sexual encounters will you actually recall?
Like Richard Pryor said, the only ones that really matter are your first and your last.
The Pro,
What is a BB forum? Bed & Breakfast?
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Could it be a BareBack forum?
LOL
You are absolutely right. He will ABSOLUTELY wish he had done more with his life.
After all, he only created one of the biggest software conglomerates in the world, and now spends his time helping other people. I can see why he would feel like he hadn't accomplished anything, whereas you, on the other hand, will have fucked 2500 girls you had to pay. WOW.I basically agree with you. Giving people stuff is a tough high to beat, especially when you are talking high digits, yeah, it might even be better than sex. It's a rush. True.
But on the other hand, yours is not a good analogy, Billy Boy bobbed the kernel for the 8-bit Altair 8800 when in the summer of 1974 he went to the Homebrew Computer Club in Menlo Park, CA, asked a lot of questions, made a lot of promises, then never came back. I know, I built the $450 Altair kit along with two other guys in August 1975, (after waiting 6 months for it to arrive) using an old HeathKit crystal radio body for the case. Bill, the con artist, lied straight-up to MITS (the makers of the Altair kits, ) and it was widely known then that he and Paul Allen actually did not generate the original version of BASIC at all, not even remotely, the code was in fact written by John Kemeny in 1964. This was far beyond any "creative bullshitting", it was corporate level thievery, and both Billy and Paulie should have been immediately indicted for prioritized grand larceny and copyright infringement. Billy stole the idea, made a buggy copy, sold it to MITS, he then took the MITS money and bought SPC-DOS, that's how he got the thing going, it then became MS-DOS, but was still totally based on other people's original works which were NOT open source. Can anyone say the words "Bill Gates is a RIP-OFF" ten times real fast?
So, as far as getting laid, some people think that Billy Boy Gates should be the one getting fucked, in fact he should be getting fucked a lot, in Leavenworth, on a daily basis. So, yeah, he should give all of his money away, he didn't deserve it in the first place.
But, again, I totally agree with your premise, there is a lot more to life than sex. And, yeah, sorry 1 Ball, you did touch a nasty nerve there, so of course I just had to say something. Dumbshit that I am. Don't get me wrong, I am not jealous of Bill the Bullshitter, I have my own thing and it's good, I just think Gates is a turdbucket pre-law fuckup that did some badass lying & stealing and got away with it. And, now, he should fess up and pay it all back. (Like that's gonna happen, heh.)
...I had lunch outside the other day with G, served by mrs G who runs a delicious food stand outside the hotel.
She hit me up for my 30 bt, AND the lunch G had too. He thought it was very funny, as had he eaten there alone, she would not have asked him for money.
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Be happy you did not have to BF and...leave a tip!:))
You are absolutely right. He will ABSOLUTELY wish he had done more with his life.
After all, he only created one of the biggest software conglomerates in the world, and now spends his time helping other people. I can see why he would feel like he hadn't accomplished anything, whereas you, on the other hand, will have fucked 2500 girls you had to pay. WOW.
You are right
If Bill Gates had been busy in the mongering profession, we could not enjoy the unique opportunity of leraning so many lifesaving things such as the professional mongering of someone else. No Windows, no forum...:)
Some guys will say that you must select a girl that makes a lot of eye-contact with you, smiles at you, plays up to you etc. But I like a girl that is very natural. Its normal that girls will look at themselves or other girls in the mirrors, rather than spending time staring at the often ugly customers. It makes sense that the girls will look bored at times. It makes sense that her vigourous dancing will be limited as the bar is a bit too hot. Air con limited.
First, great report!
I guess that for me the issue of eye contact is just eye-contact and not some sort of fake smiles and whatnot. If eye-contact is made then it could lead to a smile and a beckon. If the girl is just looking at herself in the mirror I tend to see her as being self-absorbed. Obviously this wasn't the case in this instance but she also was looking in your direction now and then and I saw at least one toothy grin.
When you say that you weren't sure whether the quality of the BBBJ had to do with a tongue stud, do you mean you aren't sure she had one or that you aren't sure how much it enhanced the experience?
But you are taking on a simplistic view of life. You can have a weeks skiing and still go mongering. You can shoot off to Africa and get a Safari in, and still go mongering. You can go off for a months holiday in the Pacific, and still go mongering.
I have done all that, I have been to see most of the "wonders of the world" and although its interesting to see them they do not do anything for you.
Ultimately it all boils down to sex. Men who are fcuking lots of girls are not very often miserable people.
Men unable to fcuk lots of girls and stuck in standard relationships are often extremely miserable but attempt to portray themselves as happy and loving life, simply because thats all they have.
Well, I agree nothing matches the intensity of sex for those few minutes...
But, if I was offered a week of skiing, a week of diving, a week of holidaying with my family and a week in Pattaya, or 4 weeks in Pattaya, I know which I would pick. OK, so I'll never get that choice :-). But seriously, when you are on your deathbed, how many of those 2500 sexual encounters will you actually recall? Or would you rather be looking back on a life full of rich and varied experiences?
Just read an article somewhere saying 'if you do one extraordinary thing every year' for 20 years you will die a happy man. I can relate to that...
Anyway, all I am saying is that I think one needs a bit of variety in life to appreciate some of those earthly pleasures. perhaps you manage that variety, I don't know.
Reminds me of the joke: 3 men saying how often they have sex - first says once a day with a bored look, second says once a month with a smile, the third says once a year with a huge grin. Why? "Tonight's the night!".
Can anyone recommend some high end places in Bangkok. I have a habit of visiting one in a City I may be mongering in just to see how the other half lives.
Thanks you.
Can anyone recommend some high end places in Bangkok. I have a habit of visiting one in a City I may be mongering in just to see how the other half lives.
Thanks you.Soprano House is very expensive and has a some pretty girls. Expect to pay a lot for drinks and fun. Here's a video I found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrIMylUxSE
www.thesopranohouse.com
Another one is The Resort on Rachada soi 13. Pretty girls that just sit and drink with you. Expensive. I was told that this is the place the Massage king, Chumvit(sp?) brings his crew when they want to party.
There's also Pregaus located near soi cowboy. Just as expensive, but there's a take out selection. :)~
There's other places in Thong Lor that caters to the rich Japanese that you can check out,too. ( mostly rip offs in my opinion)
My experience is that it takes work, and a load of cash to get some of these girls because places like the Resort have a strict policy that prohibits the girls from "going" with customers, but I know it happens. Also keep in mind that these places have a lot of regular rich Thai customers, so do expect them to roll out the red carpet for you like a go-go bar would.
Girls drinks are in excess of 250B and that is for about 15-20min of time. They do ask you if you want "to buy" a lady drink. The moment you motion for a girl to come sit with you you are paying for drinks. You can easily send 5000B here without blinking an eye and that excludes any 1 on 1 with the girl.
What are the girls like you might ask? The tend to me a little older, some with degree or getting one. More Bangkok girls, and they girls can drink! They look more "hi-so" just because they are dress for the occasion. But at the end of the day, they are after your $$$.
I would recommend going to Tarawatdee (see Mick's map) http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&z=12
Here you will find the same type of look as the places I mentioned. The difference is at Tarawatdee they the policy is to spread there legs. :)~ This place is the high end Thai soapie.
Happy hunting
Disclaimer: The map link is not something I made. I found it on a previous post.
Can anyone recommend some high end places in Bangkok. I have a habit of visiting one in a City I may be mongering in just to see how the other half lives.
Thanks you.
High-end what? Restaurant? Hotel? Car dealership?
Can anyone recommend some high end places in Bangkok. I have a habit of visiting one in a City I may be mongering in just to see how the other half lives.
Thanks you.
Baiyoke Tower Hotel maybe, highest hotel in the Kingdom ;)
http://www.baiyokehotel.com/
Mouse, its very healthy, and in fact I feel sad for the people who cannot have the basic freedom and lifestyle to do this.
You live and you die. Thats the sum of it.
What you do in between those two events is all you have.
Enjoying the pleasures of the flesh is the ultimate pleasure, there is no greater pleasure.
The most miserable people are often portrayed as the most "successful ones".
If you know of something that is more pleasurable than sex, please let me know what it is, as in life everything leads to sex.
People crave money so they can enjoy life by being able to do whatever they want. People crave fame as they want the power that comes with it. But it all boils down to sex at the end.
Bill Gates may have lots of money, but he will die having probably only slept with maybe 10 girls.
I will die having fcuked over 2500 (I hope, I am over 2000 now).
He will be sick and feeble and maybe wishing he had done more with his life.
I will be sick and feeble with a big grin on my face thinking of all those fabulous times :)
What makes you think that we, occasionnal mongers, don't F..... as much as you? We just have regular wife/GFs, even sometimes mistresses,....that we don't pay. In addition we like mongering when the opportunity arises.
In addition, if I can agree somehow that sex and flesh are an important pleasure in life, achieving something, like Mr Gates did, and also simple family life pleasures, ( I have lovely children and grand children) are also important... But you are the PRO, so you know. You are the guy who knows it all about life. Only sex matters to you. Well it does, but again, other things do to to others...I am only an amateur, and mongering is my HOBBY.. See the difference?
When you will be bed ridden with cancer pain, you will be left alone dying in an hospital. I will be surrounded by family and friends, and, believe it or not, by a loving wife of 40+ years who will be nice enough to provide me the ultimate pleasure, my last HJ before I go....
Anyway, as I said before, I am not judging you, do as you wish and be happy. Can't understand why you need to lecture everyone who thinks, does differently from you....You must in fact be very unsecure...
But you are taking on a simplistic view of life.No I'm not. You can't get more simplistic that rating your life's achievements on the number of paid-for shags you've had.
You can have a weeks skiing and still go mongering. You can shoot off to Africa and get a Safari in, and still go mongering. You can go off for a months holiday in the Pacific, and still go mongering.That was my point. But making mongering the be-all and end-all of life seems pretty sad. Even Casanova managed to write a great book. What have you done?
I have done all that, I have been to see most of the "wonders of the world" and although its interesting to see them they do not do anything for you.Yeah, Pyramids, Grand Canyon, Serengeti, Ankor Wat, Taj Mahal, Chartres Cathedral... They're OK, but they won't give you a hand-job, eh? Makes you wonder why those boring gits built them, when they could have been off having a wank!
Ultimately it all boils down to sex. Men who are fcuking lots of girls are not very often miserable people.
Men unable to fuck lots of girls and stuck in standard relationships are often extremely miserable but attempt to portray themselves as happy and loving life, simply because thats all they have.Who knows? I certainly don't. But I suspect a well-rounded life, with good sex and a loving family may be the best of both worlds.
Incidentally, although I have the opportunity to 'fuck lots of girls', I don't. Each trip to Thailand I always have a few days on the razz, and a few days with my long-time gf. Probably makes me a miserable person in your eyes, but I kind of enjoy it...
Anyway, time to kill this topic. I wouldn't have bothered to respond but I don't like being told I'm being simplistic.
My word.
How do you know I will get cancer? I might get run over by a bus tomorrow, or in a plane crash, or I might just die of a heart attack while fcuking an 18 year old hottie at 70, or. Well, who knows.
I am not lecturing anyone, people attempt to portray someone who really enjoys mongering and doing it as often as possible as "wrong".
Most dream of being able to do that, many will not admit to dreaming it.
Being happy is the main thing, but I think it all started when someone accused me of being "sad" for doing so much fcuking of so many girls.
That green eyed monster getting in to some people perhaps started it?
LOL
When you will be bed ridden with cancer pain, you will be left alone dying in an hospital. I will be surrounded by family and friends, and, believe it or not, by a loving wife of 40+ years who will be nice enough to provide me the ultimate pleasure, my last HJ before I go....
Anyway, as I said before, I am not judging you, do as you wish and be happy. Can't understand why you need to lecture everyone who thinks, does differently from you....You must in fact be very unsecure...
Suntangh R
08-31-09, 14:01
But you are taking on a simplistic view of life. You can have a weeks skiing and still go mongering. You can shoot off to Africa and get a Safari in, and still go mongering. You can go off for a months holiday in the Pacific, and still go mongering.
I have done all that, I have been to see most of the "wonders of the world" and although its interesting to see them they do not do anything for you.
Ultimately it all boils down to sex. Men who are fcuking lots of girls are not very often miserable people.
Men unable to fcuk lots of girls and stuck in standard relationships are often extremely miserable but attempt to portray themselves as happy and loving life, simply because thats all they have.The Pro!
You stir up a hornet's nest every time you post. You seem to carry a lot of anger towards Giotto, Annies and a number of happy hunters (Mongers/*****s sounds crude amongst gentlemen). I'm new to all this, but have seen life. I have been reading the posts for a couple of months too. I read the posts and manage to gauge, to an extent, the nature and personality of the author. Further, what others think of the author; the goodwill, respect, bonding, friendship that is involved amongst a number of them.
I have not met them, nor stayed at LL. I have had my Scotch at Annie's (she mixes strong ones! ) and paid for it, too. Giotto, Nic Frenchy, Mouse 1, 1 Ball, Piper, Big, Dreams seem like good people! Further, I don't think they have anything personal against you. And none of them is canvassing, advertising, or soliciting people in ways you claim. They don't need to! They have enough money and comforts. Do you think Nic Frenchy or Big will succumb to a free beer? Have a heart, dammit. These guys have been helpful to others, offered info and guidance to those taking their first step into this phase of life. I think for some reason you are being vindictive; the reason you would know perhaps! I don't think you have met them; hence stealing your girl, spoiling your chances, bad mouthing aren't involved.
When you write derogatory, insinuating, malicious posts against guys who are appreciated by many, you are receiving bad vibes, reports, and bad karma.
We grant you that you could best any of these gentlemen in your sexual abilities: 200 days of womanizing, plus some days of freebies added is no mean achievement! We grant you that (BTW, I am presuming you are telling the truth and not spilling yarns! ) BUT, you, Pro, are absolutely incompetent in interacting with people in a friendly and respectful manner. You missed out somewhere – can't you read the angry, derisive, and often dismissive replies that come your way. No one is bothered about how many you screw, or how many baths you saved by haggling. The majority of guys would love to have an enchanting evening or night, a few hundred bahts is not going to faze them.
Generally, people who are fixated about this aspect of life, and continue to extol their conquests, become paranoid or suspicious about others intentions, neglect interpersonal relationships, are either depressed, schizophrenic or have a bipolar disorder: I'm not saying that you have any of these!
There are many other things in life that gives us pleasure equal and longer lasting than sex. Appreciate the good things in life, and help others.
You would do better if you made peace with all, and posted something that could benefit others. (ABIGWHTMAN is going to be upset me for interfering! ) With your experience you could start a School for pleasure seekers!
Hope to read something better in your posts, besides telling me to F. Off
Thank you.
Exactly what I was looking for.
Soprano House is very expensive and has a some pretty girls. Expect to pay a lot for drinks and fun. Here's a video I found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrIMylUxSE
www.thesopranohouse.com
Another one is The Resort on Rachada soi 13. Pretty girls that just sit and drink with you. Expensive. I was told that this is the place the Massage king, Chumvit(sp?) brings his crew when they want to party.
There's also Pregaus located near soi cowboy. Just as expensive, but there's a take out selection. :)~
There's other places in Thong Lor that caters to the rich Japanese that you can check out,too. ( mostly rip offs in my opinion)
My experience is that it takes work, and a load of cash to get some of these girls because places like the Resort have a strict policy that prohibits the girls from "going" with customers, but I know it happens. Also keep in mind that these places have a lot of regular rich Thai customers, so do expect them to roll out the red carpet for you like a go-go bar would.
Girls drinks are in excess of 250B and that is for about 15-20min of time. They do ask you if you want "to buy" a lady drink. The moment you motion for a girl to come sit with you you are paying for drinks. You can easily send 5000B here without blinking an eye and that excludes any 1 on 1 with the girl.
What are the girls like you might ask? The tend to me a little older, some with degree or getting one. More Bangkok girls, and they girls can drink! They look more "hi-so" just because they are dress for the occasion. But at the end of the day, they are after your $$$.
I would recommend going to Tarawatdee (see Mick's map) http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&z=12
Here you will find the same type of look as the places I mentioned. The difference is at Tarawatdee they the policy is to spread there legs. :)~ This place is the high end Thai soapie.
Happy hunting
Disclaimer: The map link is not something I made. I found it on a previous post.
Sorry, forgot, ever hear of Poseidod?
Soprano House is very expensive and has a some pretty girls. Expect to pay a lot for drinks and fun. Here's a video I found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrIMylUxSE
www.thesopranohouse.com
Another one is The Resort on Rachada soi 13. Pretty girls that just sit and drink with you. Expensive. I was told that this is the place the Massage king, Chumvit(sp?) brings his crew when they want to party.
There's also Pregaus located near soi cowboy. Just as expensive, but there's a take out selection. :)~
There's other places in Thong Lor that caters to the rich Japanese that you can check out,too. ( mostly rip offs in my opinion)
My experience is that it takes work, and a load of cash to get some of these girls because places like the Resort have a strict policy that prohibits the girls from "going" with customers, but I know it happens. Also keep in mind that these places have a lot of regular rich Thai customers, so do expect them to roll out the red carpet for you like a go-go bar would.
Girls drinks are in excess of 250B and that is for about 15-20min of time. They do ask you if you want "to buy" a lady drink. The moment you motion for a girl to come sit with you you are paying for drinks. You can easily send 5000B here without blinking an eye and that excludes any 1 on 1 with the girl.
What are the girls like you might ask? The tend to me a little older, some with degree or getting one. More Bangkok girls, and they girls can drink! They look more "hi-so" just because they are dress for the occasion. But at the end of the day, they are after your $$$.
I would recommend going to Tarawatdee (see Mick's map) http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&z=12
Here you will find the same type of look as the places I mentioned. The difference is at Tarawatdee they the policy is to spread there legs. :)~ This place is the high end Thai soapie.
Happy hunting
Disclaimer: The map link is not something I made. I found it on a previous post.
M P Lurker
08-31-09, 17:16
First, great report!
I guess that for me the issue of eye contact is just eye-contact and not some sort of fake smiles and whatnot. If eye-contact is made then it could lead to a smile and a beckon. If the girl is just looking at herself in the mirror I tend to see her as being self-absorbed. Obviously this wasn't the case in this instance but she also was looking in your direction now and then and I saw at least one toothy grin.
When you say that you weren't sure whether the quality of the BBBJ had to do with a tongue stud, do you mean you aren't sure she had one or that you aren't sure how much it enhanced the experience?Girls looking in the mirror does not mean self absorbed. Great dancers need to check out how they look in the mirror to improve their style. Also helps with balance when trying exotic moves.
Clearly, i wasn't sure if a tongue stud helped make the BBBJ any better than normal. I was certainly sure she had one with French kissing.
M P Lurker
08-31-09, 17:28
Sorry, forgot, ever hear of Poseidod?
Poseidon is on same Map :)
Suntangh R.
You could get a job with a PR firm or a Spin Merchant.
Its not very clever to totally misrepresent someone by claiming they have done so many things and telling them not to.
Whilst we all appreciate the motives behind it (attempting to smear someones name by accusing them whether directly or not of many things) its really not a clever thing to do.
These forums are here for the help of people to monger.
They are not best served by those who attempt to sell or market their products and services, or those who accept "in kind" from their proprietors for name dropping all the time.
There are two establishments who utilise the method of "in kind" payment, or getting friends to post and name drop as much as possible, and this is LL and Annies.
Both of which are overpriced compared to other places, and both of which rely heavily on lazy first time USA visitors by making up a "fantasy" of appearing to be safe and good and helpful to first time visitors, more so than anywhere else, the ultimate safe place for first timers.
Now whilst its a good marketing trick to do this, its also in the interest of first time to Thailand mongers to tell them not to beleive the hype. These places whilst ok are not wonderful and for what you get they are not cheap, there is better value.
This is an opinion, mine and many others.
Now if you do not agree with it, then ignore it.
However as can be seen by reading the thread many people move onto personal comments and making up malicious posts and claims of things I have said. This is their only line of defence.
But why are they so "worried" about defending places which they claim they are nothing to do with.
There in lies the crux.
Keep all talk of Annies on the Annies thread, and all talk and namedropping of LL over at the LL thread and I am sure people like me would not feel the need to remind people that some people on here are posting to "market" some establishments.
The Pro!
You stir up a hornet's nest every time you post. You seem to carry a lot of anger towards Giotto, Annies and a number of happy hunters (Mongers/*****s sounds crude amongst gentlemen). I'm new to all this, but have seen life. I have been reading the posts for a couple of months too. I read the posts and manage to gauge, to an extent, the nature and personality of the author. Further, what others think of the author; the goodwill, respect, bonding, friendship that is involved amongst a number of them.
I have not met them, nor stayed at LL. I have had my Scotch at Annie's (she mixes strong ones! ) and paid for it, too. Giotto, Nic Frenchy, Mouse 1, 1 Ball, Piper, Big, Dreams seem like good people! Further, I don't think they have anything personal against you. And none of them is canvassing, advertising, or soliciting people in ways you claim. They don't need to! They have enough money and comforts. Do you think Nic Frenchy or Big will succumb to a free beer? Have a heart, dammit. These guys have been helpful to others, offered info and guidance to those taking their first step into this phase of life. I think for some reason you are being vindictive; the reason you would know perhaps! I don't think you have met them; hence stealing your girl, spoiling your chances, bad mouthing aren't involved.
When you write derogatory, insinuating, malicious posts against guys who are appreciated by many, you are receiving bad vibes, reports, and bad karma.
We grant you that you could best any of these gentlemen in your sexual abilities: 200 days of womanizing, plus some days of freebies added is no mean achievement! We grant you that (BTW, I am presuming you are telling the truth and not spilling yarns! ) BUT, you, Pro, are absolutely incompetent in interacting with people in a friendly and respectful manner. You missed out somewhere – can't you read the angry, derisive, and often dismissive replies that come your way. No one is bothered about how many you screw, or how many baths you saved by haggling. The majority of guys would love to have an enchanting evening or night, a few hundred bahts is not going to faze them.
Generally, people who are fixated about this aspect of life, and continue to extol their conquests, become paranoid or suspicious about others intentions, neglect interpersonal relationships, are either depressed, schizophrenic or have a bipolar disorder: I'm not saying that you have any of these!
There are many other things in life that gives us pleasure equal and longer lasting than sex. Appreciate the good things in life, and help others.
You would do better if you made peace with all, and posted something that could benefit others. (ABIGWHTMAN is going to be upset me for interfering! ) With your experience you could start a School for pleasure seekers!
Hope to read something better in your posts, besides telling me to F. Off
Terry Terrier
09-01-09, 02:46
Times are clearly tough at boutique hotels that specifically target farang sextourists at the moment
Soprano House is very expensive and has a some pretty girls. Expect to pay a lot for drinks and fun. Here's a video I found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrIMylUxSE
www.thesopranohouse.comAndyBKK,
The video on Soprano House is just amazing - I didn't know that they had renovated and included the "pool", is it the same Soprano on Soi 26? Thanks for the update.
You are absolutely right and I do concur with your observations fully on these places, as I went to Soprano 3-4 times in the past (before the renovation) and just felt I was blowing a bundle for nothing. I also agree that the "stocks" at Tarawaddy are much superior to other soapies - another point to note would be that they have a traditional massage section where no hanky-panky is allowed, BUT I was told that the sauna is shared between the sexes, not sure whether it's true and what they mean by that.
However, I would like to share a happy ending experience at Exotica (also in Thonglor) - after going a couple of times with Japanese clients (you're right again!), I thought it was another Soprano, only classier.
They have a selection of take-outs girls (similar to Pegasus) at Baht 6,000 per pop and they are older compared to the non-takeouts, and I would grade them about 6.0/10.
I did get lucky with a "no-takeout" girl who's about 23 years old, but she made me swear not to tell the mama-san or anybody else that she would come to my hotel after the establishment closes.
She does this regularly now whenever I'm in town, and I usually tip her Baht 3,000 for staying till morning. Problem is that they close at about 2.00am, and it's pretty late for me to raise a boner!
Best,
Panya
Times are clearly tough at boutique hotels that specifically target farang sextourists at the momentCan you be a bit more explicit on this.
I am in the hotel business here in Thailand and my latest research (in france germany uk switzerland italy spain) why tourism is low is something like this.
Youth travel business. Only 6 years ago youngest under 25 could afford to travel on budget as they had somehow a job. Nowadays only one from five under 25 have a job.
The hight middel class was the main travelers to Thailand. Whats happen to them. A part that they fear to loose theier job its the pension system who is changing. Now you have to work till your are 67 (germany what to go for 69) therefore more to pay for your full pension.
HIGHT END Middel class SALARY euro 5000 per month. Nowadays what you have left after tax pension fund paid room rent and others from your 5000 is 2400 if you want a pension of euro 2400 you have to pay another euro 800 monthly to secure this pension amount
NORMAL MIDDEL CLASS salary around euro 3000 left nett 1600 aprox. And this will be your pension once you rich your 67. You want more pension pay more monthly.
That is one reason more why they travel less overseas. They go more to santo domingo. Kenya the US. Short trip to egypt etc. All those destination are much more cheaper then Thailand nowadays.
One large german touroperator told me that they do not more feature/sell hotel over euro 100 per room night.
I wonder from where all this new hotel with pool villa phuket samui find clients paying the 8000 to 13.000 per day.
My own opinion of course.
I am in the hotel business here in Thailand and my latest research (in france germany uk switzerland italy spain) why tourism is low is something like this.
The hight middel class was the main travelers to Thailand. Whats happen to them.
You're missing the fact that there's a worldwide economic recession in progress which is affecting most industries to include the Hotel industry. However, as with other cycles, the recession will eventually pivot into economic recovery which will result in an increase/return of the tourists your industry craves for survival.
Member #3428
09-01-09, 12:51
Isolated from what?
Not isolated that someone had BB sex at Tulip right away. I'll guarantee that there are a few of us who have BB sex there.
Member #3428
09-01-09, 13:13
the pro,
i'm sorry i took a few days off to have round the clock sex. i hope to post soon as they are good reports. i am not sure how much you know about ll and i really don't want to get into a fight match over this nor do i want to stoop to a low level.
i don't stay at ll, rarely do i stay there. this is because i have corporate accounts with other hotels, compass hospitality and ascott group and also dusit. work books my stay. i have no reason to post about the hotel if it was not true. ll is a home away from home for many of us as we can walk in and see the same people. when you travel for a living it is nice to walk into a place that knows what you drink, eat, like and dislike. this is what we get at ll.
obviously i go to soi 33 and i do go to livingstones. but i got to many bars on soi 33 as well as cowboy and others.
never have i been given a discount or promo to post reports about on ll. never has giotto asked me to post on any site. in fact he has often scolded me and gets mo ho to me because i am nothing but a wh@re and take many ladies out of the bar and get them to stop work :d . and trust me, with as many girls as i have taken out of the bar long time and they stopped working i know more abut ll then probably any person on this board. i probably know more about the operations then many of the staff. this has caused me issues, knowing too much and getting into the middle of internal ll drama and issues. so trust me that giotto never has asked people to post positive reports. his discount is only for posting, positive or negative and it reminds me that all my posts the bestard never gave me a discount.
at annies today there is a sign and i'll post a picture of the sign, if we liked our service to post about it, i'm sure everyone that has been to annies has seen it. aey took care of me also, she made a special request booking. this is all called good business from where i am from and i do the same to customers who come to my work.
giotto, the most he has ever done for me is let me leave my luggage at the front desk for a few days while i went out of town. the rest he has done as a friend of mine and it is all outside of work, through good and bad times he has stayed by my side as a friend, just like 1ball, nicfrenchy, and many many many other guys on isg.
what helps the hotel is not giotto.. he is a total arse at times and we disagree on many items and we have fought over many issues. the staff there is what helps ll. i'm sorry if you don't see this or saw this when you went there, but to me i could care less if giotto was there or not, it is 100% the staff, the same waitresses and cooks and such. the girls come and go. but the hotel staff, shit i've known some of them longer then i've known most the girls that stay with me. i know their families and their problems in life.
you are allowed your opinion. people will either like soi 33 or they will not. people will either like ll or they will not. obviously you do not. such is your decision. it is not for everyone. but for many of us, it is a nice place to go. as i said, soi 33 and ll has a place in bkk just like eden and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol and beer garden.
cheers mate, let's have a drink sometime.
Suntangh R
09-01-09, 13:16
Suntangh R.
You could get a job with a PR firm or a Spin Merchant.
Its not very clever to totally misrepresent someone by claiming they have done so many things and telling them not to.
Whilst we all appreciate the motives behind it (attempting to smear someones name by accusing them whether directly or not of many things) its really not a clever thing to do.
These forums are here for the help of people to monger.
They are not best served by those who attempt to sell or market their products and services, or those who accept "in kind" from their proprietors for name dropping all the time.
There are two establishments who utilise the method of "in kind" payment, or getting friends to post and name drop as much as possible, and this is LL and Annies.
Both of which are overpriced compared to other places, and both of which rely heavily on lazy first time USA visitors by making up a "fantasy" of appearing to be safe and good and helpful to first time visitors, more so than anywhere else, the ultimate safe place for first timers.
Now whilst its a good marketing trick to do this, its also in the interest of first time to Thailand mongers to tell them not to beleive the hype. These places whilst ok are not wonderful and for what you get they are not cheap, there is better value.
This is an opinion, mine and many others.
Now if you do not agree with it, then ignore it.
However as can be seen by reading the thread many people move onto personal comments and making up malicious posts and claims of things I have said. This is their only line of defence.
But why are they so "worried" about defending places which they claim they are nothing to do with.
There in lies the crux.
Keep all talk of Annies on the Annies thread, and all talk and namedropping of LL over at the LL thread and I am sure people like me would not feel the need to remind people that some people on here are posting to "market" some establishments. The Pro!
I am not in the PR business, with my short fuse and good heart, it would be a misadventure.
Your grudge against Annies and LL is that they are overpriced. But then why do guys keep going back and back to them. In any enterprise you are going to have a small percentage that came back disappointed for various reasons; but the majority, and they are discerning folks mind you, return to these establishments. Your reasons are not convincing. A free beer, or a measly meal, is not going to make people sell their integrity. You can keep harping on this till the cows come back home, but I will not accept your reasons. Pro, there is a deeper grudge you bear! Its not helping you. It's eating your " innards" and that's not good for you. Even a doctor has failures, a lawyer loses cases, and so on.
Get rid of your bitterness. Wipe the Slate Clean- and start afresh! Go to LL and have a drink! Pay for it, Ok. It'll do everyone good!
I think with your experience, your posts should be INSTRUCTIVE, not DISRUPTIVE!
Tell us the1) best MPs, 2) the better girls, the ones who speak English etc, their aptitude, quirks etc 3) Which places to avoid for health reasons, 4) How to improve the performance, 5) shorten the refractory period etc., 6)MILF'S ETC
You have MUCH WORK to do!
But first, if you are a Solid Guy, spit out your anger; and start being Pleasant! Would like to see a Different The Pro!
But why are they so "worried" about defending places which they claim they are nothing to do with.
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By the way, why are you so bothered to criticize places that you claim you have nothing to do with.
Do not like them? Do not go there
High prices? avoid them
There is no scam with an advertised price of 1000Bh that become 3000 the minute you check out (because the add up the liters of air you breath, the times you switch on or off the TV, the times you fill the bathtub or take a shower.
Do you think people here is so idiot not to read the average prices for average places and see the super expensive rate of LL for what LL gives to the customers? And still go there?
All paid back by Giotto with freebies? what is the rational in this, can you please tell us?
Thanks that are people ready to spend money for quality.
I have been at the LL in april and have not any discount or coupon and shall come back there in october.
Do you think I am writing this to qualify for an alleged coupon?
Will a bonus 1000Bh get me somewhere ? Shall I open a bank account in Liechtenstein?
So what's the point? Am I an idiot overspending?
Can it be my f**** business how I spend MY money?
Is going to a 4 or 5 or 5L hotel making the general local prices escalating?
be happy there is people going to upscale locations.
So the low price ones are not overbooked and you can enjoy last minute deals at low price.
Otherwise you will see those 2 stars charging high price for the simple reason of market demand.
Feel free to post ALl the prices you want, ALL the deals you make, that is INFORMATION
But refrain from judging HOW people spends his own money for whatever purpose.
As you do not like to be judged for the excess of number of girls you lay, do not judge if someone lays a girl a week and only when he is on holiday.
That's his f*** business and freedom to do so.
tansak,
i hope you enjoyed your days off with round the clock action. thats what its all about.
yes, it would be great if people can express their opinions freely, if tulip posts are kept on the tulip threads, if annies posts are kept on the annies thread, if all references to ll are kept on the ll/giotto threads etc.
the seperate threads have been set up for a reason, so it would be nice if they were used, that way all those people who think that certain people are marketing their places would be proven wrong as all the chat about those places would be confined solely to the dedicated threads. now there is a thought.
the pro,
i'm sorry i took a few days off to have round the clock sex. i hope to post soon as they are good reports. i am not sure how much you know about ll and i really don't want to get into a fight match over this nor do i want to stoop to a low level.
i don't stay at ll, rarely do i stay there. this is because i have corporate accounts with other hotels, compass hospitality and ascott group and also dusit. work books my stay. i have no reason to post about the hotel if it was not true. ll is a home away from home for many of us as we can walk in and see the same people. when you travel for a living it is nice to walk into a place that knows what you drink, eat, like and dislike. this is what we get at ll.
obviously i go to soi 33 and i do go to livingstones. but i got to many bars on soi 33 as well as cowboy and others.
never have i been given a discount or promo to post reports about on ll. never has giotto asked me to post on any site. in fact he has often scolded me and gets mo ho to me because i am nothing but a wh@re and take many ladies out of the bar and get them to stop work :d . and trust me, with as many girls as i have taken out of the bar long time and they stopped working i know more abut ll then probably any person on this board. i probably know more about the operations then many of the staff. this has caused me issues, knowing too much and getting into the middle of internal ll drama and issues. so trust me that giotto never has asked people to post positive reports. his discount is only for posting, positive or negative and it reminds me that all my posts the bestard never gave me a discount.
at annies today there is a sign and i'll post a picture of the sign, if we liked our service to post about it, i'm sure everyone that has been to annies has seen it. aey took care of me also, she made a special request booking. this is all called good business from where i am from and i do the same to customers who come to my work.
giotto, the most he has ever done for me is let me leave my luggage at the front desk for a few days while i went out of town. the rest he has done as a friend of mine and it is all outside of work, through good and bad times he has stayed by my side as a friend, just like 1ball, nicfrenchy, and many many many other guys on isg.
what helps the hotel is not giotto.. he is a total arse at times and we disagree on many items and we have fought over many issues. the staff there is what helps ll. i'm sorry if you don't see this or saw this when you went there, but to me i could care less if giotto was there or not, it is 100% the staff, the same waitresses and cooks and such. the girls come and go. but the hotel staff, shit i've known some of them longer then i've known most the girls that stay with me. i know their families and their problems in life.
you are allowed your opinion. people will either like soi 33 or they will not. people will either like ll or they will not. obviously you do not. such is your decision. it is not for everyone. but for many of us, it is a nice place to go. as i said, soi 33 and ll has a place in bkk just like eden and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol and beer garden.
cheers mate, let's have a drink sometime.
By the way, why are you so bothered to criticize places that you claim you have nothing to do with.
Do not like them? Do not go there
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Bionicman,
My one simple rule is to NOT SUFFER FOOLS. Its easy once you try. As soon as one is identified then I just turn it off and lock it out. I invite you to do the same because I think we now have a positive ID...
RJSS212
Member #4537
09-01-09, 16:11
egypt etc. All those destination are much more cheaper then Thailand nowadays.
I fail to see how any location in Egypt (unless you refer to the slums) is 'cheaper' than Thailand in terms of food, accomodation and transport. Not to mention the lack of pussy.
LL and Annies.
Both of which are overpriced compared to other places, and both of which rely heavily on lazy first time USA visitors by making up a "fantasy" of appearing to be safe and good and helpful to first time visitors, more so than anywhere else, the ultimate safe place for first timers.Even if this were true, I don't see the problem. There is value in having a safe landing for a first-timer.
My first experience of mongering (how I hate that word!) in Thailand was at Annie's, and it was a great introduction to the scene. I don't think I was lazy to go there, and I appreciated that it was 'safe and good and helpful'. I rarely go back there now because there is so much else on offer. On my second visit I went to check out LL, having heard so much about it. Actually I didn't like the place (not my taste, nothing wrong with it, including the price) so I didn't go there...
We can all make our choices, and I'm very grateful for Ms 22 and Ms 24 at Annie's (as well as Aey) for helping me on my way.
Since a while I fancied little Miss number 15 at Tilac but she was always with the same guy. I managed to speak to her for a few minutes outside while having a smoke two weeks ago and give her my phone number. Recently she called me to tell me her bf would show up later but not before 10pm. So i met her near Asok around 6 and took her to my hotel for 2 hours of fun. She wasnt bad in the sack but nothing very special either. 2000 for ST. Overpaying? Maybe worth it imho.
I recently signed up to the website "Tagged" (free of course) with the view of setting up some contacts with some Thai gals for the next time I visit the LOS in March next year.
I have made a few Thai gal "friends" online and even some making promising noises about hooking up with me next year.
However I was just wondering what other positive and negative experiences, mongers have had with gals they have met online from "Tagged"?
i arrived at my hotel on soi 11 around 7.40 am - normally i have no problem checking in at this time, but this time the guy told me a room would not be available until 10am. what a king size pain in the ass.
i crossed sukhumvit into soi 8 more in hope than expectation but was delighted to see 6 [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) girls sat outside the shop at 7.55am. picked one and had a half hour blow job that was actually pretty good. 'you first customer' said the girl. no shit.
after availing of the service i then got some breakfast further down the road before finally checking in.
i wasn't aware [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was open for business so early, but other mongers short of options in the early morn might like to consider it.
Suntangh R
09-01-09, 19:15
Bionicman,
My one simple rule is to NOT SUFFER FOOLS. Its easy once you try. As soon as one is identified then I just turn it off and lock it out. I invite you to do the same because I think we now have a positive ID.
RJSS212Don't loose heart so fast! Dont give up! If you can show the path, why not!
However I was just wondering what other positive and negative experiences, mongers have had with gals they have met online from "Tagged"?
Ive found that most of the undesirables and escorts are interested in farangs. Most of the hot young chicks aren't interested in meeting non-asians. I'd like to hear some more feedback also.
Primo Bolan
09-01-09, 22:49
English guy in BKK.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1251815697
Tagged is ok, and ok for meeting girls who are in the borderline category, meaning they have jobs but they want to marry a rich farang, but also they do not mind being Gik's and having fun provided you pay for everything (evenings out, food, drink, school help etc..)
Have met a number from there, the key to it all is just go easy and do not be overbearing or too pushy.
I recently signed up to the website "Tagged" (free of course) with the view of setting up some contacts with some Thai gals for the next time I visit the LOS in March next year.
I have made a few Thai gal "friends" online and even some making promising noises about hooking up with me next year.
However I was just wondering what other positive and negative experiences, mongers have had with gals they have met online from "Tagged"?
NicFrenchy
09-02-09, 01:43
Believe me people, the quicker you will put "The Pro" on your ignore list the better your ISG experience will be.
The poor asshole is only interested in endless conversations about the same 3 topics... I am not even sure he even ever went to any of these 3 places
Don't loose heart so fast! Dont give up! If you can show the path, why not!
Caus thats just jerkin off and callin it sex...
Anyone in Bangkok I would suggest having a look at the Massage Models website. It allows you to search various massage places in Bangkok based on the girls, price, location, age etc..
Useful and with contact details, maps and locations too.
http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/search.php
Can be a good research tool if you are looking at getting some special ones lined up.
Ive found that most of the undesirables and escorts are interested in farangs. Most of the hot young chicks aren't interested in meeting non-asians. I'd like to hear some more feedback also.I think it is hard to say if the hotties are or are not interested in farangs. Who would not be interested in an old hairy chest white male with a big beer belly, who is assumed rich and also assumed to have heart problems, so the likelihood of having to vomit after sex will not be for very long. Just ask Anna Nicole Smith. :)
Poy, Miss Universe 1988 from Thailand, is married to a rich old farang.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porntip_Nakhirunkanok
So if you have millions or looked like you have millions, there's hope for you!
Soapie girls:
Soapie girls are paid on a per customer basis. The girls at Nataree on Rachada who are 2600B ( pay to the house) will get 1000B, so if they get 2-3 customers per night they can easily make 2000-3000B, plus tips. I know several girls who routinely send 30-50K back home. I have also been with some of the "superstars", who can bring in over 150,000B+ per month.
So some of the shiny BMWs in the parking lot do not belong to customers.
Almost all massage ( soapies) girls will come to your room for less than what U will pay at the establishments. Expect many of them to be mechanical in bed.
Average cost for soapie massage for BKK
2600B ( house fee) +200B ( papsan tip)+ 100B ( drink)+500B ( girl tip)=3400B
Duration: Normally 1hr or less
Shot on goal: Normally 1
Other Options: Go go bars 3000B ( LT) +100B( Mamasan tip)+600B ( barfine)+400B( drinks) Duration: all night
Believe me people, the quicker you will put "The Pro" on your ignore list the better your ISG experience will be.
The poor asshole is only interested in endless conversations about the same 3 topics... I am not even sure he even ever went to any of these 3 placesThough I don't post much, I read this thread every day. Can't agree with you here Nic, though I usually do. I think he's great; spices up an otherwise rather dull forum since OTH left. I especially like the USA-bashing....makes him seem so credible and intelligent.
Anyone in Bangkok I would suggest having a look at the Massage Models website. It allows you to search various massage places in Bangkok based on the girls, price, location, age etc..
Useful and with contact details, maps and locations too.
http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/search.php
Can be a good research tool if you are looking at getting some special ones lined up.
it's already a very old information: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=770088#post770088 ;)
Yes, but the site is now better than before and so worthy of another mention for those who may have missed the original post or were unaware.
it's already a very old information: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=770088#post770088 ;)
july 09' on sukhumvit near soi 5, the bus stop stroll.
i switched it up with a cool girl from uganda. she said she just arrived a week ago (who knows). i've talked to some of the other girls from africa on the stroll but she was funny & laid back. she told me she can dance for me as well. i told her i just went to the clubs at soi cowboy. she said "they don't know the sexy african dances", & started moving her body & hips. she was right, i had to take a closer feel of that ass.
her speech was clear & diplomatic. she asked "is it possible, if i may receive a deposit before we get started". i replied "hell no! " with a smile & we both started laughing for a second. cbj, watch out with them teeth though. worked all positions with a whole lot of ass to handle man. a great change for my last night in bkk. we agreed on 1000 thb but i gave her 1200 thb. i saw her on sukhumvit later that night, so we sat & joked around for a second. shit, i'm back in the states, i got to get back to los.
Just completed a SE Asia trip and didn't really push the envelope in Bangkok, but maybe these observations can be of some value to some:
* Soi Cowboy is still by far the best of the entertainment plazas, and the only one with nudity and with widespread happy hours to cut the cost. Some places in SC and Nana have hiked the baseline non happy hour drink price to B150 (!!). Barfines are still mostly B600 and B700, though Midnite and other bars in the group are charging more for early take-outs or certain girls. Suzie Wong, IMHO, is one of the more underrated happy hours, as they have more girls, decent lighting, and go completely nude on one shift (unless there's police heat) from 8:30 onward. It's also not listed specifically on the drink menu, but they have Beerlao, so you can get that at B75 up to 9 p.m. Dollhouse also is good for happy hour because it runs to 9:30 and the B60 price includes all the bottled beers except Corona.
* Baccara in Soi Cowboy and Rainbow 4 in Nana are still the "meat markets," i.e. the places with the most girls and customers. No breaks on drink prices, but selection is the big draw.
* Nana Plaza is still a sad shadow of its former self, but Pretty Lady has been trying to bring back some "showing" and shows. Elsewhere, the number of ladyboy bars in Nana is now up to 5.
* Thermae's is also a shadow of its old self and has been taken over by Koreans and Japanese. They like a certain look for the girls and about half will try to look that way. It's not hopeless yet for non-Asians, but agreeing on price beforehand is probably more necessary now than ever.
Generally I think Pattaya has widened its lead over Bangkok and anywhere else in the country when it comes to mongering. Pattaya is becoming the unofficial containment zone for that. Some people are captives in Bangkok due to work or other reasons, but if the main purpose of your trip is mongering, then don't spend too much time in Bangkok.
I recently signed up to the website "Tagged" (free of course) with the view of setting up some contacts with some Thai gals for the next time I visit the LOS in March next year.
I have made a few Thai gal "friends" online and even some making promising noises about hooking up with me next year.
However I was just wondering what other positive and negative experiences, mongers have had with gals they have met online from "Tagged"?
I have been using "Tagged" for a few years now and it works for me. 5 hours after landing in HK last Thursday night, I had a young Filipina spinner in my hotel room doing the wild thing for the next 3 days. I waited until after I had dinner to call her, otherwise she would have been there when I checked in. She was one of many on my "Friends" list and let me know in no uncertain terms that she was on the game.
I am now in Bangkok, and had the same experience on Tuesday night. A "Tagged" friend called me about 8pm while I was "dining", excuse the term, at Gulliver's and actually diverted to meet me there from her original intention of going directly to my hotel. She is a 24 y.o. student in a massage school. About an hour later, she told me to take her to my room, spent the next hour giving me a much needed deep massage. Then her clothes suddenly fell off and she left on Wednesday morning at 630am to go to work.
I am 59 year old, tall, fit, white American guy, could be mistaken for "Tom Cruise's dad" and believe me, the girls on "Tagged" respond very well to me.
As in most cases, start early before your journey, slowly gain their "Friendship" and then work on learning the benefits they are willing to provide.
It is not all milk and honey, you will find some who are not on the same flight plan, but anyone with half a brain can weed those out and not waste time meeting them when you arrive at your destination. Just also be honest with your photos and how you present yourself so there is no friction when you actually meet. As always, as trite as it may sound, YMMV.
I have been using "Tagged" for a few years now and it works for me. 5 hours after landing in HK last Thursday night, I had a young Filipina spinner in my hotel room doing the wild thing for the next 3 days. I waited until after I had dinner to call her, otherwise she would have been there when I checked in. She was one of many on my "Friends" list and let me know in no uncertain terms that she was on the game.
I am now in Bangkok, and had the same experience on Tuesday night. A "Tagged" friend called me about 8pm while I was "dining", excuse the term, at Gulliver's and actually diverted to meet me there from her original intention of going directly to my hotel. She is a 24 y.o. student in a massage school. About an hour later, she told me to take her to my room, spent the next hour giving me a much needed deep massage. Then her clothes suddenly fell off and she left on Wednesday morning at 630am to go to work.
I am 59 year old, tall, fit, white American guy, could be mistaken for "Tom Cruise's dad" and believe me, the girls on "Tagged" respond very well to me.
As in most cases, start early before your journey, slowly gain their "Friendship" and then work on learning the benefits they are willing to provide.
It is not all milk and honey, you will find some who are not on the same flight plan, but anyone with half a brain can weed those out and not waste time meeting them when you arrive at your destination. Just also be honest with your photos and how you present yourself so there is no friction when you actually meet. As always, as trite as it may sound, YMMV.
Tansak,
I hope you enjoyed your days off with round the clock action. Thats what its all about.
Yes, it would be great if people can express their opinions freely, if Tulip posts are kept on the Tulip threads, if Annies posts are kept on the Annies thread, if all references to LL are kept on the LL/Giotto threads etc.
The seperate threads have been set up for a reason, so it would be nice if they were used, that way all those people who think that certain people are marketing their places would be proven wrong as all the chat about those places would be confined solely to the dedicated threads. Now there is a thought.
Mr Pro, can you please post, at least once, a detailed positive post on where and how you get your 2000+ cheap untipped sessions? That, for sure, would benefit the newbies, that you proclaim you want to protect from
extorsionnists like Giotto and Annie....
Member #3428
09-02-09, 10:42
The seperate threads have been set up for a reason, so it would be nice if they were used, that way all those people who think that certain people are marketing their places would be proven wrong as all the chat about those places would be confined solely to the dedicated threads. Now there is a thought.
Sure we can do this, but you are doing exactly what Annies and Giotto want. You are running this over and over and giving them exactly what you are fighting about, MARKETING !!!!!!!!!!
I can't even recall way back when this all started for you but for some reason I believe it might be you who brought up Livingstones Lodge and Giotto and Annies into this forum section.
So how about we take the discussions to the Annies, Livingstones / Giotto's, or the fight club or other area since it seems most people here agree to move on. You gotta have the last word here or can you drop it and move it over because you are playing right into their hands with your constant attention. If you post more then others are just going to post back and we'll have a General Thread of only Annies and Livingstones which is fine by me :D But they do have their own threads where I'VE POSTED MY REPORTS.
For whatever reason you seem obsessed with a few topics and this only helps those topics instead of being a negative. Let's move on... Massage and then off to Cowboy to slum with the masses tonight :D :D
Member #3428
09-02-09, 10:52
I am not even sure he even ever went to any of these 3 places
Geez NicFrenchy lighten up. I'm an innocent virgin and never been to BKK but I post here too :D :D
OK I have a MP girl from three different shops from different visits wanting to stay with me tonight (for those that failed math that is 3 different girls) and two just SMS'd me that they'll be over later (problem is they have my room key), also have the three room mates and their friend that want to go out and "make me happy" (math geniuses that is 4 girls and they have room key), have my ex gf and my ex ex gf wanting to "just make love again" (read TRAP TRAP but they not have my room). So I have 9 girls wanting to have sex tonight and 6 of them have my room key so what am I going to do about all this.... Go to Cowboy of course and get a new one :D Or that is the plan unless one shows up early and gets my attention first.
I need the slow night of a newbie as the days of constant sex are catching up with the rabbit, need sleep nit noy.... Hell I've drank a lot of juice over the last three days and shaved and showered a lot lately :D :D Also need a pick me up after my total failure at Tulip today... I'm so ashamed of myself I should get citizenship in France to make up for my poor performance.
Beyonce should write a song... If I were just a wh@re...... As a Wise Old Man on Soi 33 stated to me... I've completely fallen to just the basic primal instinct to reproduce over and over and over.... He's completely lost faith in human kind after knowing me.
I think it is hard to say if the hotties are or are not interested in farangs. Who would not be interested in an old hairy chest white male with a big beer belly, who is assumed rich and also assumed to have heart problems, so the likelihood of having to vomit after sex will not be for very long. Just ask Anna Nicole Smith. :)
Poy, Miss Universe 1988 from Thailand, is married to a rich old farang.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porntip_Nakhirunkanok
So if you have millions or looked like you have millions, there's hope for you!
Soapie girls:
Soapie girls are paid on a per customer basis. The girls at Nataree on Rachada who are 2600B ( pay to the house) will get 1000B, so if they get 2-3 customers per night they can easily make 2000-3000B, plus tips. I know several girls who routinely send 30-50K back home. I have also been with some of the "superstars", who can bring in over 150,000B+ per month.
So some of the shiny BMWs in the parking lot do not belong to customers.
Almost all massage ( soapies) girls will come to your room for less than what U will pay at the establishments. Expect many of them to be mechanical in bed.
Average cost for soapie massage for BKK
2600B ( house fee) +200B ( papsan tip)+ 100B ( drink)+500B ( girl tip)=3400B
Duration: Normally 1hr or less
Shot on goal: Normally 1
Other Options: Go go bars 3000B ( LT) +100B( Mamasan tip)+600B ( barfine)+400B( drinks) Duration: all night
Gotta disagree with this 100%...most of the Asian massage places on Petchaburi...1300-1900 baht (house fee)...papasan tip, 0....+ drink 50-100 baht, + tip girl 100 baht ....duration, 2 hours, shot on goal, normally 2....a way way better value than anywhere in Nana or Soi Cowboy and no attitudes whatsoever...
Payforplaybkk
09-03-09, 01:04
i've spent a whopping 10 full weeks in bangkok this year. a mix of mostly business and some holiday, with plenty of time to experience the nightlife and variety of activities available in this wonderful city. i should preface my comments by saying that i truly love thailand and these are only my thoughts based on specific experiences i have had. others may obviously vary and it's this diversity of opinion that makes bangkok so wonderful to enjoy.
1) i really hate to say this, but from my experiences, i've found it very difficult to truly trust thai women. i've met and dated women in different settings. hotels, bars, nightclubs, g-clubs, soapies, go-go bars, etc. inherently i found most of these women truly addicted to the idea of money and stability and much less with me. even though i'm a 30 year old and an attractive catch by all western standards. also, i've found thai women to be quite moody and fickle and very limited in their ability to adjust to anything not thai (e. g., they mostly want to eat thai food, most have never ventured outside thailand for travel, etc). for me this makes it feel impossible to really bring someone back to the usa
2) more specifically, i find it difficult to trust a woman from a g-club or nightclub. i've spoken with women at soprano, the resort, pent club, caribbean, st. moritz, etc and i've realized you have to spend a ton of money and time with these women to go anywhere. i actually had a genuine romance with a woman from soprano, but it fizzled when she got nervous by how close we had gotten. most of these women are professionals at making you feel at ease and emptying out your wallet; if you want something long-term it's best if you live in thailand. they're very used to the tourist who lives in a hotel and vanishes after a few days.
3) there are a bunch of places i recommend but i'll keep it to some highlights:
a) best place for a "massage": i still think the winner is tulip, despite the crappy rooms. dow/dao is quite the performer, and if you spend time with her she's willing to give her cell number to make private bookings. the consistency amongst the women is better here than other places.
b) next best place for a "massage": snow white on sukhumvit 26 is excellent; i had a wonderful experience with fa. she's super energetic, caring, and loves sex. just watch your head when you walk up the stairs! the facilities are super modern here. i also like aviva massage on soi 8. pretty women, but make sure you ask to pick the one you want. the massage portion is actually quite legit here and the rooms are okay.
c) best massage parlor: i give the nod to nataree. the sideliners especially are quite attractive and very affordable. the rooms aren't great, but this is a better "buy" than most places.
d) overrated massage parlors: the "models" lounge in poseidon is ok, but for the price i haven't found the women to be worth it. same goes with amsterdam and la belle; the facilities here are nice but the real attractive women come at a steep cost (if you must, highly recommend "king" at amsterdam. she's a former thai penthouse model and a lot of fun)
e) best g-club: it really depends on your style of partying. the band at soprano is excellent and takes your music requests. the new ikafe is fun (next to caribbean. the new karafun), but the pricing structure is quite expensive. wherever you go, just realize that it's futile to worry about bedding the women. just have a good time and be prepared to spend $$$.
f) best escort services: in general, i think escorts in bangkok are a real hit or miss, and generally a risk and too expensive. some independent escorts are a disaster, such as "thai cherry" who has gained about 30 pounds from her previous photos. if you must, bangkok hot escorts (www.bangkokhotescort.com) is a solid option at a fair price.
g) best quickie: i don't think anything beats [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in soi 8 for some fast bj for only 700 or so baht. tip: don't go right at closing; several of the women are eating food at this time and i had one who chomped down hard at my member as if it were a piece of chicken.
h) best place to party: hands down, rca. especially route 66. which is an excellent club. get there early on weekends if you want to reserve a table inside.
i) overrated place to party: definitely q bar. i don't understand the allure of this place. high cover charge, and sometimes they block off the upstairs to "members only". avoid.
j) most ridiculous view: state tower. the sky bar. absolutely amazing view of the entire city and a super romantic place to take a woman.
there's a lot more to add here, but i hope this provides a nice start. feel free to give your opinions on the "best" of bangkok.
cheers
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
NicFrenchy
09-03-09, 02:00
Beyonce should write a song... If I were just a wh@re......
You listen to Beyonce? fuck, you really ARE Gay!
As a Wise Old Man on Soi 33 stated to me... I've completely fallen to just the basic primal instinct to reproduce over and over and over.... He's completely lost faith in human kind after knowing me.
Shit, the LAST thing you should do is reproduce!
Member #3428
09-03-09, 02:31
So last night.... was going to cowboy but one of the MP girls shows up. Now I did not take her from a shop or such she came to my room all by herself, no cash no payment no nothing. We went to King and I for a massage while she got a spa, went to eat at Suda of all places (yeah I know big spender aren't I :D ). We talked and relaxed and had a nice evening.
While we were out, well two girls meet up in the lobby of the hotel. One was drunk as she was a little mo ho about me (and she brought a girl friend, this is the 25 year old and her one friend) and the other was a MP girl that came to visit me also :) I'm getting SMS messages from both parties while I am with this other girl. Coast is clear, out of lobby, talked to hotel to verify there would not be any drama but the damn security guard comes rushing to me to report there was an "incident" right in front of this other girl. What a jack ass, no tip for him.
So anyways now it appears I have two girls leaving items at the front desk that I have given to them. I can't wait to see what they "returned to me" and what condition it is. This will be a treat, will call the bell hop to bring up later.
So up to the room and for all the folks that are part of the FFF (find them, fuck them, forget them) crowd I disagree with you. This girl and I had a nice evening and we talked about life, family, etc... and these girls when they want to, can fuck the hell out of you while wanting to be happy and for no money. TRUE I paid dinner and spa but that was my treat to her. Just finished 3 hours of morning sex this morning that was incredible, she is a trooper who can provide the needed work out to keep me slim and beautiful :). This is of course after a wonderful night time session and a nice restful sleep holding each other (I'm such a romantic).
She's now making me coffee, washed me in the shower, will iron my shirts, and she just had me talk to her family and friends up in Isaan etc... While you are reading this report :) :)
Member #3428
09-03-09, 03:04
Sorry Folks... this is kind of backwards... I was writing this when in walked a sexy MP girl (read at the end).... So it's kind of backwards should have been posted earlier...
Landed BKK after some fun, er I mean work, in Manila, Sunday night. Got the late TG flight into town from MNL and landed about 5 pm, no lines at immigration, third bag off, out the door, into taxi over to Grand President. You can see report in hotel thread... watch the water shooter in the bathroom damn it....
My TGF and I are having issues, think two nympho maniacs so neither one of us is stable mentally or emotionally, so we are mo ho to each other and I not see her yet. And surprisingly I am innocent in this case for the first time in my life :D I call in back up before landing, old girl I know who happens to have two room mates who are thinking I am "handsum man" which of course is 100% accurate.
So waiting at the hotel are three girls, 25, 27, 22 years old. Nothing special but the two are former semi pro part timers for rent money and lately after the recent aids increase (they know two girls who got HIV and tell me there is a larger number of HIV in BKK freelance area, no idea if true or not) they got scared and have worked at selling clothes for a while now.
So here I am, broken hearted and in a suite with three young ladies. What should a guy do. Well this guy took the 22 year old first even though I know the 25 year old. I'm a **** what can I say. I also had the shirts off of all the girls and was feeling them all up and over. After a few rounds the 25 year came into the room and started to assist and instruct and teach the 22 year old with some hands on experience. Dee Mak !!!
Monday arrives far too soon... morning sex again with the 25 and the 22 year old.... Afternoon sex at Snow White.... Went to see the ex ex gf to show off my new hair (always shaved my head now have it grown out and look handsum man of course)... seriously meet up with her as I still talk to her and we went to a real massage place. She wanted to go back to my room for sex but dam I just finished Snow White and I have three girls in my room... so sorry honey maybe later... Late Afternoon / Evening sex with the 3 room mates again. This night have all three girls running around naked in my suite. Oh my lord, thank you for creating thai girls. When you get room mates who share everything including a guy and are not shy around each other it is a glorious sight and one that kept my pecker in the up position all night.
This time I had the 27 year old. Yes I know I've stated I was saving her for Fox 2 my friend coming in but my pecker has a mind of it's own. She has great tits and she is more asian looking then flat nose dark skin isaan girl. She goes for a ride on me then holly bloody hell if she doesn't finish on me then get off and tell me thank you but she is never work professional and she was horny and now she finish and that she will send in another girl. I'm like what the hell, and now I know how a MP girl feels. I was laying there staff raise high and in utter shock. Seriously I was pissed and shocked... never have I had a girl do this to me.
In come the 22 year old and the 25 year and they make up for the problem. But damn I was mo ho (upset). I told Fox 2 I never finished with the girl and that is true I never did finish with her :D
The next day had a special early morning booking with an Annies girl, reported that in their thread. But a two hour booking turned into a four hour booking with a girl who does not work the fishbowl. God 3 1/2 hours of straight good strong sex is just what the doctor ordered to forget the 27 year who used and abused me the night before. I still feel dirty after what she did to me :D
After this went to Beer Garden to do some looking as my friend will come in and haven't been here in half a year. Plan to do Nana and Cowboy and other MP's as WORK for my friend to test the waters and judge the flow and the current and rip tide effects. The shit I go through for ISG. What I saw at Beer Garden gave me chills. Only maybe two or three girls were possibilities so I called in two of the room mates and a new friend and we drank some. Bought drinks for Beer Garden girls who they knew from before in their semi pro make rent days.
End up going to that little restaurant on the corner of Soi 5 with about 7 girls to eat. One was ill, you could see when she relaxed and let her guard down that she was ill. Flu or something else I don't know but didn't want to get close and I'm told she has been repeatedly ill for months but hides it to customers, she has not been to a doctor to be checked out. But with the rain and such there seems to be a lot of girls with coughs and colds or worse who knows. But it's not a good feeling, I always take antibiotics and other items when I am mongering to ward off anything that might come my way. Anyways end up going to the room with the two room mates and two more.
The 25 year old gets drunk and starts to get an attitude so we mo ho and she storms off. The friend storms off with her. Are you reading anything into this, alcohol in large qty and thai girls is never a good thing. So I'm there with the 22 year old and another girl. Eh no problem for me, I can deal with only two girls if I have to but that is suffering I know. A little while later, in walks the other 27 year room mate, drunk and crying. More drama. But this drama is her home issues. (I should mention I give out my room key like candy so many many girls have it incase they want to come and join the fun but these are girls I know not one time wonders).
While I'm trying to screw the 22 year old and her friend the girl who used me as a ***** pulls the 22 year old aside to talk to her about life issues. Bloody hell... so I try to concentrate on the friend for a while. Not working. End up taking the 22 year old back and finishing with both of them while the 27 year old was in the living room drinking Jack and Coke's.
Get things settled and out of the room... thank god morning comes. Have morning sex of course... then off to work. Get some watches repaired, everything going OK, see the ex ex GF for ice cream... dealing with work issues and decide to go to Tulips. You can read the total failure in the Tulip Thread.
To solve the issue with multiple keys going out and girls who are upset at me I just called reception and changed the key card system on my room and got 5 more keys to start over with :D
At night... well I just posted that the one MP girl came over and damn if it was not a great evening. She's still here on the couch in my dress shirt. There is just something that makes me so horny seeing a girl wearing my dress shirts walking around the suite. God I hope this isn't the first step to becoming a lady boy like Nicfrenchy :D Damn I gotta stop this shit about Frenchy I'm starting to be like TT and think too much about him hahahahahaha....
What will today bring???? I actually gotta work damn it. Massive problems. but hope to do a MP and tonight... shit supposed to meet up with an ISG lurker who I know from another board but damn this MP girl is looking so damn edible.... Please tell me the rabbit isn't caged...
Member #3428
09-03-09, 03:49
Gotta disagree with this 100%...most of the Asian massage places on Petchaburi...1300-1900 baht (house fee)...papasan tip, 0....+ drink 50-100 baht, + tip girl 100 baht ....duration, 2 hours, shot on goal, normally 2....a way way better value than anywhere in Nana or Soi Cowboy and no attitudes whatsoever...
For ME, Disagree 100% and this is what makes BKK so much fun, we can all find what we like and what works for us.
For me, who looks American but am not, most soapies give me one shot and some have farang sur charge but I agree I never got attitude at a soapie. But 3 K minimum for my one goal at many soapies.
LT from nana or cowboy or soi 33 for me is 20 hour usually for girls that I know (yes 20 hours and many goals), but for new ladies I usually let them go home after the morning sex (don't want to scare them too much right away), I pay 3 -4 K, and shots on goal are a minimum of 5 and up. So say 5 - 6 K for the time (BF, few drinks back to room). That is 1500 baht per goal for me and can go lower as the goals increase.
Francesco24
09-03-09, 06:17
Hello,
I have a small request.
I am looking for a girl with big natural breast (slim body or at least not fat: P) I'm living in BKK with my girlfriend so I don't have much time/money to look around and try new places. And anyway my little free time is only during morning/afternoon (so GoGo or night time freelancer are out of question). If somebody could help and suggest me a girl and/or shop name I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks
You listen to Beyonce? fuck, you really ARE Gay!
Shit, the LAST thing you should do is reproduce!Nic, you have a real attitude problem. Why not restrict your posts to constructive or at least entertaining posts, rather than childish insults?
Member #3428
09-03-09, 08:52
Nic, you have a real attitude problem. Why not restrict your posts to constructive or at least entertaining posts, rather than childish insults?
WHOA.... Don't worry about Frenchy, He is just jealous that I don't love him the same way that he loves me :D I'm not into that lady boy action he likes.
In all reality Mouse1 Nic is a very nice person, a good friend, and he can pull the ladies left and right that part is very true. He just doesn't know what to do with them once he finds them as he is so young. Damn he is so easy to pick on... Must go to temple to cleanse my soul.... stop picking on frenchy....
He needs old guys like us to kick him in his arse (I'm 40 so if I call him young you must know he is a dick enter pussy and finish immediately type of baby still with no staying power), he lives in mongers paradise and dresses like a damn lady boy :D Pisses me off that he has a job that allows him to monger around the clock and I'm jealous of his success in life.
So if you're going to scold someone scold me as I'm the one baiting the baby every chance I get :D But if he ever is up for a meeting definitely do it, he knows many parts of thailand and is really a wealth of valuable information.
Ok since I'm the bad one I'm going to cowboy and put myself in the naughty boy corner because I pick on Nic too much tonight :D
NicFrenchy
09-03-09, 09:03
Damn I gotta stop this shit about Frenchy I'm starting to be like TT and think too much about him hahahahahaha....
No worries, I am used to it, the girls think about me all the time :D
What will today bring????
Hahahahaha, let me guess... another 10 shots? :)
NicFrenchy
09-03-09, 09:12
Nic, you have a real attitude problem. Why not restrict your posts to constructive or at least entertaining posts, rather than childish insults?
Right, well that was..... unexpected.... :(
Tansak KTV is a good friend of mine (and not only on ISG), yes, I admit being a little jealous of his sexual prowess (who wouldn't like to screw 14 times a day without having to take a month off afterwards?)
Now Piper1 (yes, the gay one) suggested we get a separate thread for our Back & Forth bickering but, it is all in good fun.
Next time you're in BKK, come out one time with us and you'll see :)
(aaargh... I wish we were in the Fight club Thread so I could write down some obscenities... )
Member #3428
09-03-09, 09:17
Hahahahaha, let me guess... another 10 shots? :)
We had about 6 am to 12 pm sessions this morning with a few breaks, her to rest on the couch, me to post and do work.
There was multiple shots for me and for the girl she had a record breaking number of climax's in one day and we only were at it until noon. So nice to be able to please the customers ;) It was kind of funny I asked her at about 11 am if she wanted to go one more round and she said please.... Damn good girl. That set the record for her :D and earned her a repeat visit with me.
Am actually working damn it until I will cowboy tonight with a friend of mine... big problems at work but am horny as a SOB already so I feel sorry for whoever comes tonight.
We are taking new, the one from last night / this morning is scheduled for tomorrow again :D I'm trying not to get married again.
Right, well that was..... unexpected.... :(OK, hate to intrude on a lovers' tiff! :-)
BTW, how do you put smilies into your text?
OK, hate to intrude on a lovers' tiff! :-)
BTW, how do you put smilies into your text?Ah, neat :) Thanks TKTV.
Suntangh R
09-03-09, 17:44
Nic, you have a real attitude problem. Why not restrict your posts to constructive or at least entertaining posts, rather than childish insults? I thought he was the more mature of the two! I suggest we add the honorific Thunderball to Tansak KTV. First, it was Pro with his 200 ++ or was it 2000 sessions per year. But TKTV takes the Gold. He needs to be put under the dissection microscope and analysed. Amazing! I am a decade older than him, a late entry, you would say; but this guy is a goddamn PISTON. KKTV, can you lend us one of your testis for the weekend. Promise to return it!
Why doesn't it work to list the threads by oldest first?
NicFrenchy
09-04-09, 02:06
But TKTV takes the Gold. He needs to be put under the dissection microscope and analysed. Amazing! I am a decade older than him, a late entry, you would say; but this guy is a goddamn PISTON. KKTV, can you lend us one of your testis for the weekend. Promise to return it!
Well, I can say that after meeting the Rabbit KTV a few times & also meeting his girls, the man really is a freak of nature!
many ladies won't even come near him anymore because they are scared he might barfine them.
A few ladies complained that the man does not sleep and screws continuously (without even a break between shots). Now for a 40 year old, I am sorry but even me at 30, I can't do that.
I am happy to sqeeze my 3 shots in a 2 hour session, but then I need the day to recharge.
The last beergarden that KTV brought told me the man humped her 14 times the day before and 3 times that same morning... adn that he was still horny.
Maybe he really is an animal?
...The last beergarden that KTV brought told me the man humped her 14 times the day before and 3 times that same morning... adn that he was still horny.
Maybe he really is an animal?
And don't forget that he manages to carry on all the functions of his demanding day job at the same time.
He's giving orders to his employees over two cell phones while simultaneously butt fucking his three female roomates.
There is no cage in existence that could hold this animal. :D
LittleBigMan
09-04-09, 03:22
Mine take on all this is one guy ( Tansak ) is a world class sprinter like the world record holder BOLT, and the other ( Pro ) is a slow leisure walker. Each has their own style and commands their own respect.
LBM
Member #3428
09-04-09, 03:47
many ladies won't even come near him anymore because they are scared he might barfine them.
Now now guys... it is only blowing off some steam from work. Some people relax one way I do it another way. Last night was a bad night.
Had dinner with Giotto and another ISG lurker that was actually decent at La Casa over by King and I (an italian place of all things, never been there before). Oh, this wasn't the bad part even :D Went to Cowboy as two girls I know were starting first night at baccara bar and promised to stop by and buy them a few drinks. One of the best things for me is always staying close to girls I have taken before and just be social. Never hurts to go buy a drink just to stay in contact.
So ended up running into a guy I know there so stayed a while. Was looking around, really didn't see much to my taste but the two girls pulled another girl over. I should qualify that I saw some girls upstairs that had possibilities but was trapped downstairs with these two girls. Unfortunately... I acted like a BKK virgin and let my little head do the thinking for me. She was my style girl and I talked to her and she had good english and a smile, laugh, attitude that could light up the room for me but I made rookie mistakes. She promised good power and long time and stay until late the next day etc...
Turns out she was in BKK for 10 days and only work for 6 days and I was her first Foreign guy and she said she really was horny, but horny for a young girl in BKK and that got solved on my first shot. Ended up only with two shots the night and one in morning. Rookie mistakes to not check how long she worked bar and how much experience she had. HOWEVER she put up a good effort and did a lot so I can't be upset or feel sorry as it was MY fault for making the mistakes.
But she was a fun girl, personality wise, and she promised to go back to work and ask around for the top 5 girls who can bump and grind the most and give me a line up when I come back. But she was asking if it is OK that I not bar fine her again right away as she can not do more right now. I not need 10 times a day with one girl, can always hit up a MP or two during the day and have a special night planned tonight so mai pen rai... It was still a nice evening even if I did screw NicFrenchy Style.
She has already sent me text messages thanking me for being such a sweet guy and handsum man :D and that she'd make it up to me. And one of the two girls who got her, just text me that she is on her way over to pick up some items from the room (have so many things for various girls all over the room don't know what belongs to who) and she heard what happen as this girl txt her so she promise to help me if I need any release. It's good to enjoy friends of friends.
Now now guys... it is only blowing off some steam from work. Some people relax one way I do it another way. Last night was a bad night.
...
The Rabbit KTV,
Hmmm... if not our dinner - what was the bad part of the night :) ?
Giotto
Member #3428
09-04-09, 04:01
The Rabbit KTV,
Hmmm... if not our dinner - what was the bad part of the night :) ?
Giotto
That I still make rookie mistakes.....
The last beergarden that KTV brought told me the man humped her 14 times the day before and 3 times that same morning... adn that he was still horny.
Maybe he really is an animal?Damn, I wish I was 60 again, would've shown all of you 'animals' the door. Slowing down now, only six chicks in a three nighter to BKK last week, and with only three COF/CIMs per session. (Groan)
KTV get your fill buddy, get it now. All of a sudden, you're old. Enjoy it while you got it. ;)
Well, OK, at least I got pics to prove it, you guys DO do a lot of bullshitting here with not a lot of proof, in fact not even a teeny tiny shred of it, yes?
One session from last week, (the fantastic kissing sisters, yes, actual real for real sisters: insanely cute, left to right-19 &18, and, both love anal, they've been doing each other since they were kids) more on that later:
SE Asia Joe
09-04-09, 06:12
OK, hate to intrude on a lovers' tiff! :-)
BTW, how do you put smilies into your text?
Me too, me too, I want to know!
Apparently you PMS'd Mouse to instruct him - could you also send me the PMS?
Thanks
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
09-04-09, 06:18
Right, well that was..... unexpected.... :(
Tansak KTV is a good friend of mine (and not only on ISG), yes, I admit being a little jealous of his sexual prowess (who wouldn't like to screw 14 times a day without having to take a month off afterwards?)
Now Piper1 (yes, the gay one) suggested we get a separate thread for our Back & Forth bickering but, it is all in good fun.
Next time you're in BKK, come out one time with us and you'll see :)
(aaargh... I wish we were in the Fight club Thread so I could write down some obscenities... )
FOURTEEN times a day???!!!
TKTV - you sure you know that 14 times means 14 sessions and not just 14 thrusts?
Do you ever sleep? Eat? T.A.S.S.? Work? Rest up?
Sorry to be a cynic but.................!!! The friction alone would have built up callouses on your dick - do you really feel anything? Anything at all when you're doing IT?
Like I said, my apologies, but i just find this just too hard to believe -
SEAJ
Me too, me too, I want to know!
Apparently you PMS'd Mouse to instruct him - could you also send me the PMS?
Thanks
SEAJSorry Joe, I've been sworn to secrecy :)
Member #3428
09-04-09, 09:06
FOURTEEN times a day???!!!
Not every day for sure. And I not ask people to believe but some members actually talk to the girls I am with and know what we do. Usually it is girls telling them I am a bastard who screws too much. I do not really care if people believe or not.
Ran into NicFrenchy at Chitlom BTS stop today while I was with a certain freebie MP girl. Unplanned encounter but atleast he got a look at a girl who can do multiple times a day and guess what, just finished two times. :D
Suntangh R
09-04-09, 12:09
Not every day for sure. And I not ask people to believe but some members actually talk to the girls I am with and know what we do. Usually it is girls telling them I am a bastard who screws too much. I do not really care if people believe or not.
Ran into NicFrenchy at Chitlom BTS stop today while I was with a certain freebie MP girl. Unplanned encounter but atleast he got a look at a girl who can do multiple times a day and guess what, just finished two times. Just for a day. Pl. We are suitably impressed and forgive some of your nasty posts. You have a good friend in Nic!
Curious to see a photo of yours. Wonder how you were assembled in utero!
You are a Medical Marvel, Khun Piston Tansak!
Suntangh R
09-04-09, 12:19
Not every day for sure. And I not ask people to believe but some members actually talk to the girls I am with and know what we do. Usually it is girls telling them I am a bastard who screws too much. I do not really care if people believe or not.
Ran into NicFrenchy at Chitlom BTS stop today while I was with a certain freebie MP girl. Unplanned encounter but atleast he got a look at a girl who can do multiple times a day and guess what, just finished two times.Nic, can you take charge of this guy. He's running amuck! The Girls will start judging a lot us by his standards. Tell him to find new parlours, FLs or whatever! Request him to the respectable parlors for us, PLEASE. A number of guys are going to get depressed hearing of this prowess; a number will stop coming back to LOS. And you can imagine then!
Maybe he really is an animal?
Nah, I think that his island is simply still not quite caught up with evolution.
Sorry to be a cynic but.................!!! The friction alone would have built up callouses on your dick - do you really feel anything? Anything at all when you're doing IT?
I would think that raincoats would keep the callouses away. If not you could always ask the pedicurists to clean the callouses off like they do on the bottom of your foot. OUCH!
I would think that raincoats would keep the callouses away. If not you could always ask the pedicurists to clean the callouses off like they do on the bottom of your foot. OUCH!
Tansak, recently overheard walking into a nail salon...........
"hello, I would like a manicure, a pedicure, and a dickycure please"
;)
Suntangh R
09-04-09, 14:32
Tansak, recently overheard walking into a nail salon.
"hello, I would like a manicure, a pedicure, and a dickycure please"
;)That's a good one!
NicFrenchy
09-04-09, 15:33
Ran into NicFrenchy at Chitlom BTS stop today while I was with a certain freebie MP girl. Unplanned encounter but atleast he got a look at a girl who can do multiple times a day and guess what, just finished two times. :D
Shit! the man has lost 20 kilos so I almost did not recognize him. Good to see you in top form! and damn that girl surely did look amazing for a sex addict :)
Usually the ones who can hump like crazy are old, Fat, ugly or something.
This one had a nice body, cute face and a great smile :)
I really feel for her next punter... he won't be able to satisfy her :D
SE Asia Joe
09-04-09, 17:42
Not every day for sure. And I not ask people to believe but some members actually talk to the girls I am with and know what we do. Usually it is girls telling them I am a bastard who screws too much. I do not really care if people believe or not.
Ran into NicFrenchy at Chitlom BTS stop today while I was with a certain freebie MP girl. Unplanned encounter but atleast he got a look at a girl who can do multiple times a day and guess what, just finished two times. :D
I've been known to do a few gals in a row, but invariably, after the third or so gal, I'd find myself getting practically bored with the actual act. I mean, there's only so many varieties to doing the nasty and after multiple pops, it becomes well..... routine and not all that exciting - or satisfying at all. Just tiring and I some times even cain't wait to get it over and done with.
I don't think it's got anything to do with age or anything - as I had experienced the same "boredom" even when I was younger. It's like eating Foie Gras, then sharks fin, followed by lobster, and then Kobe beef, capped all by a rich devilish dessert and then right away going back to Foie gras , then sharks fin and lobster......... There's only so much that I can - and should - consume.
TKTV - how do you do it and what precisely goes on in your head when you're doing it on your fourth - never mind fourteenth time! I realize that this is really none of my business and you are more than entitled to tell me to go to hell - but I truly am curious .... and perhaps just a bit jealous that I cannot really enjoy sex THAT much:(
I mean if I can do it multiple times and get as much enjoyment etc as when I do it the first or second time in a day.... well..... that would really be GREAT!!!!
Apologize for belaboring this matter and if I over step my place. Thank you
SEAJ
Member #3428
09-05-09, 01:18
Shit! the man has lost 20 kilos so I almost did not recognize him. Good to see you in top form! and damn that girl surely did look amazing for a sex addict :)
Usually the ones who can hump like crazy are old, Fat, ugly or something.
This one had a nice body, cute face and a great smile :)
I really feel for her next punter... he won't be able to satisfy her :D
:D told you folks the damn FrenchMan is in love with me.... The girl is a great lady and is a sweet girl and just wants to take care of me, iron my shirts, make coffee / tea, massage me while typing, walk around in my dress shirt with nothing else on waiting for me, washing me in the tub.
Last night she opened the door at 2 am for Fox2 who finally showed his up in Thailand in only my dress shirt, earlier in the day she opened the door for the 25 year old lady who was returning items and picking up items she left here again in my dress shirt. She also went through my camera and phone of pictures of other girls is OK with it so far.
I just gotta watch what I post when I move photo's over as I can't get her in trouble with her work.
Member #3428
09-05-09, 01:35
TKTV - how do you do it and what precisely goes on in your head when you're doing it on your fourth - never mind fourteenth time! I realize that this is really none of my business and you are more than entitled to tell me to go to hell - but I truly am curious .... and perhaps just a bit jealous that I cannot really enjoy sex THAT much:(
Sigh.... I know most guys won't believe (not saying you specificially but others reading) and that's fine.
I work 20 hour days, I bicycle 30 to 100 kilometer a day, my cardio is in great shape and I take a regiment of vitamins and herbals and protein which I've shared with many guys but it's about 29 pills a day. I do not screw like this every day only in bkk mostly and sometimes in MNL and china is usually having someone brought to me. And I do go hog wild for the ladies when I land and before I take off.
Yesterday was a typical day for me. One shot in the morning with the cowboy young girl. Then I had two girls come over to pick up items from the room but no sex but could have if I wanted it. Went out for a meeting, meet up with an MP girl outside work. Did little shopping at Zen. Ran into Frenchy at the BTS, came back to room and had sex two shots. Then we had another later, then a surprise another one. :D She is getting the most out of me.
Had early dinner her friend and her husband (sizing me up maybe :) ), did some work on computes and such during these times, had two shots later. Fell asleep, Fox2 arrived at my door with all the items I had him bring from the USA for me, talked to him quickly as he wanted to run out to grab a lady, had two more shots, went to sleep again.
Have not used lube one time yet on this trip. The girls get naturally wet with DATY and I can not perform for just ANY girl, of course not no way could I get stimulated for no damn reason. The rotation of girls keeps my interest there, and there is a reason I was with my ex gf's and I stay with some girls is because for whatever reason they can keep my interest and they can enjoy this. It's that simple. Nothing special. You just gotta find the girls that keep your interest.
This girl, when she walks around my room in my dress shirt and she massages me and sucks me while typing, I'm sorry, I get horny and I rectify that problem :D Usually I know certain girls that can always get me going just like you guys find at MP's, girls knowing their work and being good at it getting the most for you that you go back too. It's the same for me, I know some girls that even when I've had three or four shots I know they get me horny and can keep my interest with a variety of different skills. And for the new girls, it's is always the enjoyment of the first time with them to see if they are performers or not that keeps my interest but why I am not upset when they only perform three times in one night.
It is not every day that I go excessive. Today... have to meet my ex gf for a few hours this morning to see about patching up our problems (but swear I'm not going to be trapped into sex with her :D ), then go out for a Soapie Run (I dislike soapies usually but gotta take one for the team every once in a while) then out to horn dog it up.
So today, give me the morning with this girl in bed with me, then nothing except 1 shot at soapie due to meeting my ex, then whoever is the unlucky girl tonight. So very normal atleast in my POV.
Ran into Frenchy at the BTS, came back to room and had sex two shots. Then we had another later, then a surprise another one. :D
You weren't kidding about Nic being in love with you.
Slim
LittleBigMan
09-05-09, 11:05
Damn!
When I read that I bit my tongue and said nothing! thinking I might be reading something that wasn't!
Damn not once but 3 times!
LBM
Damn!
When I read that I bit my tongue and said nothing! thinking I might be reading something that wasn't!
Damn not once but 3 times!
LBM
Next thing you'll know you'll walk into Annies or Nataree and find NicFrenchy and TansakKTV sitting in the FB with a number on their dress.
Next thing you'll know you'll walk into Annies or Nataree and find NicFrenchy and TansakKTV sitting in the FB with a number on their dress.
You mean they are not sideliners?
You mean they are not sideliners?
C'mon man, you met them. You think they could make it as sideliners? Hell, for that matter could you or I make it as a sideliner? The other sideliners would move to the other side of the room.
You are right, Pita. :eek:
But this begs the question, which, BTW, has not been addressed of late......
Should they get a tip? and if so, should it be given before, or after?
LittleBigMan
09-05-09, 16:07
Next thing you'll know you'll walk into Annies or Nataree and find NicFrenchy and TansakKTV sitting in the FB with a number on their dress.
If they do and God help us all, but I hope they will shave their legs if they plan to get pick. It won't be me and they shouldn't take it personally.
LBM
Member #3428
09-05-09, 20:46
C'mon man, you met them. You think they could make it as sideliners? Hell, for that matter could you or I make it as a sideliner? The other sideliners would move to the other side of the room.
You know for fact I am model quality even if my english is no good. What did Soap Fan say to me one day... I talk English like an Isaan Bar Girl if I recall correctly :D .
Now Frenchy... well... I have some reports as a bunch of guys went out tonight. We all went home with ladies except of course Frenchy :D He went home to hug his ladyboy clothes. Every girl who waved to him or tried to talk to him he said NO NO NO NO. Hum... I am a little suspicious.
A good first report is that 4 ISG guys are sitting in a go go bar, Three guys are looking at the ladies. Frenchy happens to be sitting next to me. All of us were looking at girls and pointing out certain ladies characteristics and I said joking to Frenchy... hey there is handsum man and his face immediately light up and asked me "WHERE" 100% truth !!!!!!!!!!!
A sad second report is that today I took out a girl, she was full of promises and yes can do, no problem etc... Frenchy warned her what was going to take place but she not believe. After I finish two times she asked me if I could give her taxi money and forget the long time and if she could leave early. I paid her short time as she did some extra services.
A third report is three ISG guys hit up Poseidon today and I remember why I hate soapies. However my ex TGF and I started to make up and did the old rabbitology right before hitting the soapie so a full on sex session with Mrs. Rabbit took the edge off.
However running some risks, I had my freebie MP girl in the room from the night before, and she stayed in my room before I went to meet my ex TGF. This girl folded towels, made the bed, did my laundry, did the dishes, everything. So when I took the ex TGF to the room it looked normal even though housekeeping had not been there yet.
After the TGF left there was blood on the bed and now I got a friggin note to see the duty manager to go over the payment options as I guess I just bought the damn thing :D
A fourth report is that a few ISG guys went to Queen Victoria over by Cowboy and I tried to sweet talk the waitresses but got blasted out of the water by them (one I know for many years and like her a lot).
So basically... my freebie MP was given a call by me and she is on her way over now after the LT girl ran away at ST, it is 2:30 am and it is her B day today so I got her a card and gifts waiting for her arrival. As I am such a sweet guy :D
After the TGF left there was blood on the bed and now I got a friggin note to see the duty manager to go over the payment options as I guess I just bought the damn thing :D
Time of the month or did you break her? ;)
Member #4537
09-06-09, 00:17
Time of the month or did you break her? ;)
His tool must have hurt her. Always happens with girls not used to longer tools...
Member #3428
09-06-09, 02:32
Time of the month or did you break her? ;)
We haven't seen each other in two and a half months or so and we went an hour or so straight, I'm not a clock watcher and she's physical as you know ;) Wasn't much and she sure was not complaining.
Funny thing is that she told me to hide it, yeah right... :D
Funny thing is that she told me to hide it, yeah right... :D
But you were hiding it. Hiding that salami that is.
Member #3428
09-06-09, 04:59
When I come into Bangkok I try to bring various items, chocolate, perfume, teddy bears (animals and the night clothes), etc.... simple items, nothing massively expensive. But the girls like it and I give some chocolate to housekeeping (and tip them well :D ).
Called over a MP girl I know and I knew it was her B Day. The day I was at Central world I picked up a B Day card and a gift wrap. The girl came over on her B Day and she had a gift of a teddy bear (animal and night dress), chocolates, and a bottle of perfume with a nice card.
She cried long and hard. No one has given her happy Birthday like this before to her. She is working an MP in Bangkok, her kids are up in Isaan, she has many friends and had plans to go out that night with her friends but she had no guy do anything nice for her on her B Day except some arse hole monger named Tansak KTV.
So now on this simple act that cost me little, she will remember forever, she gave me great sex out that. And I will guarantee that I got a girl for the rest of my life to take care of me in BKK.
Just my POV.
Suntangh R
09-06-09, 05:43
When I come into Bangkok I try to bring various items, chocolate, perfume, teddy bears (animals and the night clothes), etc.... simple items, nothing massively expensive. But the girls like it and I give some chocolate to housekeeping (and tip them well :D ).
Called over a MP girl I know and I knew it was her B Day. The day I was at Central world I picked up a B Day card and a gift wrap. The girl came over on her B Day and she had a gift of a teddy bear (animal and night dress), chocolates, and a bottle of perfume with a nice card.
She cried long and hard. No one has given her happy Birthday like this before to her. She is working an MP in Bangkok, her kids are up in Isaan, she has many friends and had plans to go out that night with her friends but she had no guy do anything nice for her on her B Day except some arse hole monger named Tansak KTV.
So now on this simple act that cost me little, she will remember forever, she gave me great sex out that. And I will guarantee that I got a girl for the rest of my life to take care of me in BKK.
Just my POV.And to think we all thought the Magnificient was just a huge mass of pulsatile muscle tissue extending from the pelvis to between his ears! But the man has a heart and sensitivities too. Will keep discovering. Tansak, just hope the guys who have been voluble on tipping dont jump on your back.
I liked this post of yours.
PS( Psssh! Between you, me and the lamppost, this coming 18 times in a few hours is true or not?)
Masked Avenge
09-06-09, 06:43
This has been said to me many times hehe.
Anyone have any special, perhaps medicated, shampoo to have the dual purpose of keeping the ol' weiner fresh and also assisting in fighting the nasty germies?
NicFrenchy
09-06-09, 07:45
A good first report is that 4 ISG guys are sitting in a go go bar, Three guys are looking at the ladies. Frenchy happens to be sitting next to me. All of us were looking at girls and pointing out certain ladies characteristics and I said joking to Frenchy... hey there is handsum man and his face immediately light up and asked me "WHERE" 100% truth !!!!!!!!!!!
It actually is a little distortion from the truth... but I'll let you have your minute of fun.
You said "there's a man!" and I got thinking there was a man on the stage so, by curiosity, I asked: "where"?
that's all there is to it. ;)
M P Lurker
09-06-09, 08:56
yesterday met up with f and t, two other isgers. it was an unusual day where t was away from his normal girls and i was influenced to go to places other than what i might have alone.
first up a soapy. f wanted to try poseidon. in the past i have been unlucky at poseidon, never managing to find a superstar and also finding the models on the 3rd floor unattractive.
this time, spotted a slimmish but curvy girl with a narrow face. and called her number. t was stunned. i am normally slow to choose and i had called the number when he had barely sat down. f was also surprised saying he liked the same girl. however shortly he chose a very sexy girl who just arrived that i also liked a lot.
t’s girl was ordinary looking to my personal taste. my girl was called naam (water). only a cups but very nice ones.
a few compliments from me about her amazing bottom and small waist seemed to do the trick. she liked me and was hot for it.
the bathing was getting far too out of control. it seemed i was about to be raped in the bath so dashed out quickly for a condom.
was the best session i ever had at poseidon and definitely added to my repeat list. ymmv depending on the chemistry.
later we checked out the models on 3rd floor and found a few cuties. the standard of girls has gone up a lot since a year and a half ago. i think this is the same everywhere. bad economic times have led more great girls into the mp or bar game and there are less customers. many fabulous girls have only been working p4p for a few months.
i had plans for several girls in suzie wong but my friends influenced me to go in baccara. for some unknown reason we headed upstairs to the school girls area. they were all very plain in my opinion so i insisted we return downstairs to where there are several pretty girls.
there were two girls i had liked from a previous visit but not yet met. called the pretty, slim one gung (shrimp) over. she was very playful and comes from sisaket.
been working bar for 4 months. meanwhile another well known isger, n showed up.
f also called over a girl i liked but she wasn’t very animated and so he later chose another with big tits. there were actually several girls that i liked including one with huge wide slung natural looking d cups. but my girl with very little tits was so nice, i stuck with her and started stealing wet juicy kisses from time to time. a few tequilas were getting her worked up.
to cut a long story short, my girl liked teasing and kept threatening to go home because my dick was bigger than what she was used to. but it was just play. she turned out to be one of the best movers on the bed that i can remember. very animated, a wonderful kisser (non smoker), and very orgasmic. i felt like the sex was just too good to consider stopping it.
eventually allowed her to sleep but set the alarm for a morning session. i score her body 7 (almost no tits but great tight bum), face 8.5, kissing 10, bbbj 6 (too strong for me), general sex play 10.
best bar girl sex i had for years. fuck the ordinary blow-job. who cares when the pussy is so good?
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It actually is a little distortion from the truth... but I'll let you have your minute of fun.
As you know, never trust the bestard if there is an opportunity for him to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
It actually is a little distortion from the truth... but I'll let you have your minute of fun.
You said "there's a man!" and I got thinking there was a man on the stage so, by curiosity, I asked: "where"?
that's all there is to it. ;)Mr NF,
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When I come into Bangkok I try to bring various items, chocolate, perfume, teddy bears (animals and the night clothes), etc.... simple items, nothing massively expensive. But the girls like it and I give some chocolate to housekeeping (and tip them well :D ).
Called over a MP girl I know and I knew it was her B Day. The day I was at Central world I picked up a B Day card and a gift wrap. The girl came over on her B Day and she had a gift of a teddy bear (animal and night dress), chocolates, and a bottle of perfume with a nice card.
She cried long and hard. No one has given her happy Birthday like this before to her. She is working an MP in Bangkok, her kids are up in Isaan, she has many friends and had plans to go out that night with her friends but she had no guy do anything nice for her on her B Day except some arse hole monger named Tansak KTV.
So now on this simple act that cost me little, she will remember forever, she gave me great sex out that. And I will guarantee that I got a girl for the rest of my life to take care of me in BKK.
Just my POV.
It's refreshing to see a monger being respectful to a BG. A little bit of niceness can go a long way.
There are reports how we all manage to get a freebie and have great sex with her but here is a story from last week of "Freebie gone bad".
Met this girl (G1) online. She added me to facebook and was really friendly. We met Wed evening for a few drinks. Turns out she was only one Soi away from me in Sukumvith. I was staying at Soi 1 and she worked in Soi 3. We met on Soi 3 and went to Gullivers. Had some finger food and couple of cocktails. I told her I had a conf call I had to get back to but I had Vodka in my room we could drink the next day. She immediately wanted to come over. I had to politely say No as I had another girl (G2) lined up for 8 pm. After our drinks our ways parted and suggested she come over the next evening to my hotel lobby as they have happy hour from 6pm to 7pm. I met the G2 at 8pm; light dinner (no drinks) back to my room and had three rounds with her before she left in the morning at 6am for work :)
Met the G1 from the previous night again; she was at my hotel by 6:15pm. We had 2 beers each and then migrated to my room for Vodka/Juice. Poured ourselves a nice strong one. Chatted for about 45 minutes while sitting on the sofa in the room. She was soon straddeling me cow girl on the couch and her top was off. Kissing and nipple sucking. We were really getting into it. Picked her up and dumped her into bed naked. I stripped as well and we were kissing all over. She asked if I had a condom and I pointed to the sealed box that is provided by the hotel. I did not want to reveal the mega pack I carry with me ;)
So we are caressing each other. I did not want to go down on her as her pussy was a little to hairy for me. I wanted her to give me a BJ to get me just hard to start to fucker her. I asked her if she could suck me.... she said no. Asked her again and she said no. I didn't say anything after that. A minute later she gets up and says: what are you doing!. why are you doing this to me, I thought you were a nice guy. I dont like it when a man controls me. I look at her stunned. WTF???
Then she goes on repeats the same stuff and says, "Why did you grab my hair, I dont want a man to control me". Grab her hair!!! I do that all the time playfully with a girl. Apparently the hair grab ticked her off for some reason. It was about 10pm now, she got dressed and left.
Yheesh! what a turn of events. I SMSed her right after; said sorry twice. She replied and said: I want to forget about and and I think you were really drunk, so its ok.
We chatted the next day. It was like it never happened. We met for lunch and chit chatted and did not mention the previous night at all. She wanted to party on Friday night with me. I declined as one of my freebies from Jakarta was going to be in town Friday night and want to go hang with her.
You win some, you loose some. Will let her pull my hair next time ;)
-JM
M P Lurker
09-07-09, 02:44
So we are caressing each other. I did not want to go down on her as her pussy was a little to hairy for me. I wanted her to give me a BJ to get me just hard to start to fucker her. I asked her if she could suck me.... she said no. Asked her again and she said no. I didn't say anything after that. A minute later she gets up and says: what are you doing!. why are you doing this to me, I thought you were a nice guy. I dont like it when a man controls me. I look at her stunned. WTF???
Then she goes on repeats the same stuff and says, "Why did you grab my hair, I dont want a man to control me". Grab her hair!!! I do that all the time playfully with a girl. Apparently the hair grab ticked her off for some reason. It was about 10pm now, she got dressed and left.
I have a few comments.
Unfortunately guys that have not been in Thailand a long time, can get into trouble with Thai customs. Happens to us all. Touching a girl's head or hair is a risky one due to Thai custom considering the head as sacred. So not a great idea on a girl you don't know well. But often no problem. Just depends on the girl.
P4P girls will routinely give blow-jobs but not all. Non P4P are not guaranteed. There are girls who don't like it especially if uncircumsized and did not shower to clean perfection beforehand. Some will only do covered BJs.
She probably had some bastard come in her mouth with no warning/permission on a previous date and is now vary wary.
You didn't want to do DATY and got no blow-job. That's sort of justice.
Would be better approach to focus on getting the girl very turned on first and then accept whatever she wants to do for you. After all, you are not paying for it!
In the end, you probably met a difficult and touchy girl. I knew a gorgeous problematic girl who worked at Long Gun. Never managed to have a really great time with her, sexually, no matter how hard I tried to fit in with her ways. There are always plenty of other girls that will be no problem.
Member #3428
09-07-09, 04:45
After spending an morning with the freebie MP girl and the afternoon with the ex TGF, went out last night, did not see much that made the little rabbit jump up and down. Could easily take any girl and screw them of course. Went to a few bars and ended up getting a call from the 23 year old from before that only was in town short time. She went home, we had a few sms back and forth and she came back to BKK and wanted to come over to see me.
So obviously she ran home, spent the money, now is back for more but what do I care she was a nice kid and we had fun, she knew what to expect from me, so why not. Told her to come to Shark at Cowboy where we were and she did. Talked to her a little and heard about what she did at home and what she wanted to do for the night and deal was struck.
Saved me the bar fine (but I could care less about that), she was a cute kid, she knew what I enjoy and do not enjoy (not much I do not enjoy :D ) and this time I got more "specials" out of her then the first time and more shots on goal then last time.
It is always refreshing to be with a young new girl in the game with some energy. Taking her to breakfast this morning, spending time with her, you can tell she is not in the game at all as she has no clue on hotels how they operate, locations, names of places in bangkok, etc... I'm being more of a guide to bangkok for her then she knows even the bars on soi cowboy she has no clue about other then the one she worked at for a few days.
She wants to see me tonight but some ISG guys have appointments this afternoon at the flower shop, then don't know what will come up next tonight. Would not classify this girl as a freebie as I pay her cash still and we negotiated the bottom line, but with the specials she provided (two specific ones come to mind) I would say she is not far from being in the gik category. Especially with the reaction to doing those "specials" :D
...some ISG guys have appointments this afternoon at the flower shop...
...she is not far from being in the gik category...Appointments at the flower shop? Is that code for something?
GIK definitely is, but I haven't heard that one before
Member #3428
09-07-09, 06:21
appointments at the flower shop? Is that code for something?
GIK definitely is, but I haven't heard that one beforeI hate defining thai words but will do my best as really OTH or others are better for this.
GIK started out as boyfriend girl friend, then over time it evolved to a Gik being someone other then your girl friend, could be a part time lover, and some take it to mean someone only for sexual pleasure.
It is not a mia noy (second wife, mistress) as there is an exchange of mutual needs between a guy and his gik. A dinner, a show, going to movie, and she gives the guy sex. A mia noy is more dependent upon the financial aspects from the guy to support her fully and she is literally his second wife. A gik is more a part time and occasional get together type relationship and they can fade in and out of your life for a while.
For example there is an girl I knew from a long time ago and she called me up to see if I have time for her. I know taking her out will involve me buying her some items and I am sure she will perform sexual favors for me in return. That is a gik. If you break it down, I am paying her for sex but not in cash in her hand. She is looking for something and I am looking for something so we use each other to get what we want.
OK you experts of thailand and thai culture... how was the description was it defined properly?
Flower Shop = yeah read the forum it's pretty easy to figure out. It is a MP shop. That should solve it for you :D
FreebieFan
09-07-09, 06:38
When I come into Bangkok I try to bring various items, chocolate, perfume, teddy bears (animals and the night clothes), etc.... simple items, nothing massively expensive. But the girls like it and I give some chocolate to housekeeping (and tip them well :D ).
So now on this simple act that cost me little, she will remember forever, she gave me great sex out that. And I will guarantee that I got a girl for the rest of my life to take care of me in BKK.
Just my POV.I've found the little unexpected gift works wonders specially for the ladies who don't tend to get gifts.
A second hand phone, to a gal in Manila is still ensuring me pleasure from 18 months back. The "free gift" digital cam from Natl Geographic had same effect. Chocolates are ok but something with the girls name on (embroidered panties once) have a David Copperfield effect. Cheap and easy to do, but it always seems to get to the girls heart. And somehow quickly to her warmer parts.
...Taking her to breakfast this morning, spending time with her, you can tell she is not in the game at all as she has no clue on hotels how they operate, locations, names of places in bangkok, etc...
Hahahahaha ... and you believed that?
There are reports how we all manage to get a freebie and have great sex with her but here is a story from last week of "Freebie gone bad".
.....We chatted the next day. It was like it never happened. We met for lunch and chit chatted and did not mention the previous night at all. She wanted to party on Friday night with me. I declined as one of my freebies from Jakarta was going to be in town Friday night and want to go hang with her.
You win some, you loose some. Will let her pull my hair next time ;)
-JM
Interesting story! Bit of a weird excerience:
Seems she has some problems in discerning things and better go with a more safe date.
So next time you will let her pull her hair, but also you will refuse to DATY her!
I hate defining thai words but will do my best as really OTH or others are better for this.
GIK ...........
.... A gik is more a part time and occasional get together type relationship and they can fade in and out of your life for a while.
....:D
but the key question is: do you tip her? LOL
NicFrenchy
09-07-09, 09:43
OK you experts of thailand and thai culture... how was the description was it defined properly?
YEs sir, you have, however a gik relationship is not always based on sexual needs. For example, in my office, a lady calls her "GIK" the guy she eats with. She just tells that she hates eating alone so she has a Gik for eating company.
For the Flower Shop.... see attached
Appointments at the flower shop? Is that code for something?Indeed :):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=812976&postcount=334
Hello guys,
Every body know akane x2 and sazanka
But some of you know this one:
http://jjbkk.client.jp/
And as it's all in japanese:
Is it good? (need update advice)
(here an old post see paragraph 3.3)
659351
What is their offer?
Do they have an english website?
Happy hunting
YEs sir, you have, however a gik relationship is not always based on sexual needs. For example, in my office, a lady calls her "GIK" the guy she eats with. She just tells that she hates eating alone so she has a Gik for eating company.
You mean she has sex with some guy just so he'll eat with her?
You mean she has sex with some guy just so he'll eat with her?Once upon a time, in a land far far away.
OK, ok, not that many years ago. In Chiang Mai, and all of Thailand in general: If you fed a nice meal to a friendly girl that you had known for a while, (gik), she literally bent over backwards to make you happy. She served you, spoon fed you, etc. If you were cavalier enough, this normally included a quickie trip to a cheap drive in 'bungalow' (motel), w/private garage and a sliding door hastily closed by a well greased attendant (making absolutely sure that your car wasn't seen.) This was SOP. (Those of you who have lived here long enough know exactly what I mean and the places I am talking about, they are still everywhere. And, for those who haven't been here since then. You should have been here yesterday, you REALLY missed it.)
And they all lived happily ever after.
The End
Now, ramp up your imagination, this is not a part of normal Western mentality. 'Gik' has a connotation similar to kissin' friends, not really a "love" relationship per se. But, you play your cards right, you get freebies all the time. Thai style.
You mean she has sex with some guy just so he'll eat with her?
Yes, she'll have sex with some guy just so he'll eat her!
Member #3428
09-07-09, 19:14
but the key question is: do you tip her? LOL
I tip for everything :D :D
For the Flower Shop....
Had an interesting experience for the flower shop, will share it someway so not to get folks into trouble I hope soon :D
Indeed :):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=812976&postcount=334
Now that is cheating.... you give it away like that but I can still see people not understanding ;)
OK you experts of thailand and thai culture... how was the description was it defined properly?
:D
I think that this article says it best....
http://www.thaiskale.com/journal/gig-kik-gik-lovers-in-thailand-thai-casual-polygamy-sexual-culture-%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B5-%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%8A%E0%B8%81/
Now, ramp up your imagination, this is not a part of normal Western mentality. 'Gik' has a connotation similar to kissin' friends, not really a "love" relationship per se. But, you play your cards right, you get freebies all the time. Thai style.
Elsewhere it can be referred to as 'a friend with privileges'.
Wolverine15
09-07-09, 21:07
I would add that the social pressures from family etc with the conventional boyfriend / girlfreind relationship can be very strong. This seems to be another motivation for the lighter "gik" relationship.
I think that this article says it best....
http://www.thaiskale.com/journal/gig-kik-gik-lovers-in-thailand-thai-casual-polygamy-sexual-culture-%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B5-%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%8A%E0%B8%81/
Elsewhere it can be referred to as 'a friend with privileges'.Sort of like that, yeah.
When I first heard the term 'Gik', it only applied to guys. She said it like I was her 'gik-low-aah', meaning "gigalo", but all screwed up like she had read the word but then completely mispronounced it.
BTW, this gik thing is incredibly prevalent in Thailand, and most farangs have no clue as to how many of their honeys are banging Thai guy giks in the background. So, these back door Thai guys are singularly referred to as the Thai girl's "Gik". (And you had better believe that that both sides definitely do brag about it to their friends, in fact they brag about it a lot! )
Now, by some sort of naturally convoluted Thai osmosis, the term can mean almost anything.
Want to make Thai girls laugh? Figure out a way to fit the word 'Gik' into any conversation, works like a charm.
NicFrenchy
09-08-09, 06:39
Want to make Thai girls laugh? Figure out a way to fit the word 'Gik' into any conversation, works like a charm.
Absolutely! actually I used it at Oilies and once the girls learn that you have a "gik" they almost always offer to become one themselves.
Anyway, Barko, you should be careful when you talk about thai culture, people don't like it so much over here... they will complain to Jackson adn soon enough you'll end up like OTH.
Better stick to what is the Cheapest ST on Sukh (or similar....) that way, the ignorant masses will be happy
Absolutely! actually I used it at Oilies and once the girls learn that you have a "gik" they almost always offer to become one themselves.
Sure they will, if you are a pretty boy like NicFrenchy.
NicFrenchy
09-08-09, 10:50
Sure they will, if you are a pretty boy like NicFrenchy.
boy? oh my, I always thought that a few hair on my ass could make me pass for a man... (a handsome one, of corse) ;)
M P Lurker
09-08-09, 16:07
But some of you know this one:
http://jjbkk.client.jp/
And as it's all in japanese:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=JJ+Fashion+MP,+Fun+Massage,+Bangkok&sll=13.727462,100.580757&sspn=0.01209,0.015106&gl=au&ie=UTF8&ll=13.735258,100.579834&spn=0.024179,0.030212&z=15
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ja|en&u=http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php%3Fid%3DR010344
http://66.102.11.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.asp%3FID%3D73&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjyCvEwj5grVBPbTDVHqyNhfWwEcg
I found this video on another site. Is this an ISG member?
http://www.totallycrap.com/videos/videos_british_man_gets_knocked_out_in_bangkok/
I found this video on another site. Is this an ISG member?
http://www.totallycrap.com/videos/videos_british_man_gets_knocked_out_in_bangkok/
It's a good video but old news here after being posted about three times in as many months now.
It's a good video but old news here after being posted about three times in as many months now.And I am pretty sure its not Thailand but the Phils.
Member #3428
09-09-09, 02:03
boy? oh my, I always thought that a few hair on my ass could make me pass for a man... (a handsome one, of corse) ;)
Hum... maybe that hair on your ass is from another man ;)
NicFrenchy
09-09-09, 07:36
I found this video on another site. Is this an ISG member?
http://www.totallycrap.com/videos/videos_british_man_gets_knocked_out_in_bangkok/
Tanks, however methinks that video's a fake.
And I am pretty sure its not Thailand but the Phils.
No, it's Thailand! The lady in the video screaming "stop" is speaking Thai.
I found this video on another site. Is this an ISG member?
http://www.totallycrap.com/videos/videos_british_man_gets_knocked_out_in_bangkok/
There are some places you shouldn't be messing around, be it Thailand or anywhere else.
At Samui I only found one place like this, but surely once I finished my beer never went back.
No, it's Thailand! The lady in the video screaming "stop" is speaking Thai.She's screaming "enough, enough".
There are some places you shouldn't be messing around, be it Thailand or anywhere else.
At Samui I only found one place like this, but surely once I finished my beer never went back.Agressive arseholes like these deserve what they get. Hope he had some travel insurance to get his teeth fixed up
I'll be arriving in Bangkok in 31 days (can't wait). I'll obviously have plenty of fun in the bars, but I was wondering if anyone has had any success arranging "dates" with GTGs on the internet?
She's screaming "enough, enough".
Same, Same! Point is, she was speaking Thai not Tagalog!
LittleBigMan
09-10-09, 09:36
Deserve it or not, bad behavior regardless of the reason. Surely he had too much to drink. Maybe he wanted his Barfine back? Definitely Thai, one voice was saying La-gone, which is leaving might even mean out?
Was the guy saying who wants some or bring it on and then.... he got sucker punched? and did the guy run away after that?
LBM
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