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I have been going to strip clubs all my life in every continents imaginable. I went to Bangkok nana plaza last week. I went through all the clubs. Some clubs are definitely TS and some clubs have girls that are very ordinary. There is one club there called Obsession and they have the best looking girls in the whole place. The manager is definitely TS. Therefore I carefully check all the girls' adam apples, their g strings and their voice. They all look genuinely femaly to me. The girls are 6-10's, mostly 9's. I have never been to a club like this with such high quality. They must have 60 girls going around. I spent 3 days there drinking. I thought heaven cannot be better than this. Unfortunately in the third day, my favorite girl cream made a mistake. Her voice sounded like a man when she talked to another girl. I then discovered the whole club is full of TS's. For 40 yrs of clubbing, they have fooled me big time. That girl/man Cream is a solid 10 in my eyes. This is too bad. If she is a girl, I would never leave that country. She is beyond gorgeous.
My advice to the fellow mongers, if the girls in the club are too gorgeous in Bangkok, they are all TS's. If you find girls in the clubs 5-8's, they are probably real girls. Anything better are TS's. I learned the hard way.
I had also went to Macau, Hong Kong, Cebu and Vancouver. I will post my reports there in the appropriate sections.
My ranking between US, Thailand, Macau, HK, Philippines, Canada will
be
1. Macau
2. Hong Kong
3. Thailand
4. Philippine
5. Canada
6. US
This may explain why the US$ is falling. No wonder people are rushing to get RMB.
I have been going to strip clubs all my life in every continents imaginable. I went to Bangkok nana plaza last week. I went through all the clubs.I know (correction, I thought I know) the Nana and other TS scenes in Asia quit well and know how to judge the real girls from the fake but now and then a mistake still happen like 2 weeks ago, I think it was also at Obsession, a real stunner 10/10 looking kid came off the stage after I paid here attention, really a girl to fell in love with and it was only when she was sitting beside me least 10 minutes and a bit of talking that I became suspicious, and yes I was wrong, bad luck, not just the body, even here voice was perfect, must admit, we never become faultless in this.
John Euro
Hi All,
I hope the youtube links donot violate the forum's policy. I am posting these in the interest of fellow hobbyists.
Been to LOS a number of times, done the soapies and the massage parlours, but this seems too much fun to have been missed out on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQUErisbVSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5o_TF9Uaf8
Which club is this? Please let me know.
Which club is this? Please let me know.This is Hollywood on Ratchada.
Hey Mick Licker, where do you get your Zithromax?
Want to get some before my maiden visit to LOS. I looked on the net and the generic Zithromax providers require prescription.
Jimmy Red Cab
11-12-07, 22:20
I know (correction, I thought I know) the Nana and other TS scenes in Asia quit well and know how to judge the real girls from the fake but now and then a mistake still happen like 2 weeks ago, I think it was also at Obsession, a real stunner 10/10 looking kid came off the stage after I paid here attention, really a girl to fell in love with and it was only when she was sitting beside me least 10 minutes and a bit of talking that I became suspicious, and yes I was wrong, bad luck, not just the body, even here voice was perfect, must admit, we never become faultless in this.
John Euro
But John, what is so unusual about a Katoey working in Obsession ---as far as I know it is a 100% Katoey bar. ?????????
But John, what is so unusual about a Katoey working in Obsession What I was trying to say is that , even when you know what’s going on at Nana plaza , knowing how to spot the difference between real one and a LB , knowing for yourself that in all these bars you move around between girls and katoeys , you sometimes get mislead by your hormones .This maybe because after a few drinks they all start looking good LOL.
J.E.
But John, what is so unusual about a Katoey working in Obsession ---as far as I know it is a 100% Katoey bar. ?????????
And has been one for many, many years now!!!! It is hard not to pick up on this outside before you would go into the place. To each there own, but there are few more bars in Nana that are 100% katoey and this is one of them.
We each have a story about katoey, but I was in bar a year in Soi Cowboy and the guys sitting next to me, kept telling me how beautiful this new girl friend of 10 minutes was. I look at the girl, I look at him and told him that she was not a she and he said no way and barfine him. Couple of days later I saw him and he stated that I was correct and he was scared to death that night and could not get him out of the room. He found out while in bed and was reaching to find something wet and found something hard!!! I am sure more then one person has fell into this trap.
Jimmy Red Cab
11-13-07, 01:00
And has been one for many, many years now!!!! It is hard not to pick up on this outside before you would go into the place. To each there own, but there are few more bars in Nana that are 100% katoey and this is one of them.
Yes, the other bars to avoid (unless it is your thing) are -------
Casanova
Cascade
And the bar next to Rainbow 4, I believe it is called Temptations. ???
Retired Army
11-13-07, 07:48
Hey Mick Licker, where do you get your Zithromax?
Want to get some before my maiden visit to LOS. I looked on the net and the generic Zithromax providers require prescription.
just buy it an any damn drugstore in Thailand. Hell, you can get Cipro without a prescription, but I don't recommend using the stuff without consulting a doctor.
Retired Army
11-13-07, 07:50
Hi,
Does anyone had ever been at Pegasus Club or Pent or other and can give me more details about his experience?
Thank you very much,
Cocod
Search the forum for Pegagus as there has been a lot written about it in the past. If you have any questions PM me.
Search the forum for Pegagus as there has been a lot written about it in the past. If you have any questions PM me.Dear Retired Army,
Unfortunaly I have non subscription yet and I can't private messaging you.
Can you please link me the post of Pegasus? I can't find it.
Thnks,
Cocod
AsiaTraveler2
11-13-07, 09:30
but john, what is so unusual about a katoey working in obsession ---as far as i know it is a 100% katoey bar. ?????????
absolutely 100%. there are so many giveaways. too much makeup, very few "girls" and very few guys. if you don't see many customers, your radar better go up right away. then look for all of the other signs. it should not take more than a peek in the bar and 5 seconds for the rest to register in your brain, for you to figure it out.
at2
AsiaTraveler2
11-13-07, 09:38
Hi,
Does anyone had ever been at Pegasus Club or Pent or other and can give me more details about his experience?
Thank you very much,
Cocod
Cocod,
Of the two, go to Pegasus if you want the sure thing and the Pent if you want the hottest girl. Both are pricey. Expect to pay at least 3,000 baht, for a short night, including drinks and company. At either club, you do not need to be a member. At Pegasus there is a bar fine. At the Pent, you need to get the girls number for a rendevous after the club closes. Expect to pay at least 3,000 baht for the girl. Some will ask for 5,000 baht.
Some of the girls are really hot at the Pent. Worth the visit. Pegasus is hit and miss like Soi 33.
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
11-13-07, 09:46
OTH
Opebo is simply out for recognition. However, if it is true that he puts his dick bareback into anything which moves, then we all should think twice about posting names of girls and MP's in this forum.
JB
JB,
I agree. My guess is that he uses a condom all the time, and simply says he goes bareback, just to get a rise out of everyone. Really, if you enjoy bareback, there would be no real need to constantly announce it. It's an "I need attention" ploy, that kids use.
AT2
...Really, if you enjoy bareback, there would be no real need to constantly announce it.
My only comment on this exchange is that there is a very good reason to specify bareback in reports - the simple reason that for mongers who seek bareback, the information is useful. I have many times chosen venues because of reports specifiying bareback within, and avoided venues where condomsex or even CBJs are reported to be the norm. Gentleman, I cannot control the reaction of prudes, but I can try to give useful information to my brother mongers.
Member #3443
11-13-07, 10:51
I have gotten a "Z" Pack without prescription many times in Thailand.
Old Thai Hand
11-14-07, 01:16
What is that drug for? To stop HIV or something?
Stop HIV????? Gawd! there are some ignorant people on this board these days.
Ciprobay or Ciprofloxacin etc. and Zithromax are a high-potency anti-biotics.
Stop HIV????? Gawd! there are some ignorant people on this board these days.
Ciprobay or Ciprofloxacin etc. and Zithromax are a high-potency anti-biotics.I can't stop laughing. This kid is not ignorant OTH. He is 14 years old. 14 year olds makes such lame statements. See his comment on the photo thread. He thinks AIDS caused a small ass pimple. I bet he also thinks babies come from storks, and he's been a good boy this year so Santa is going to stuff his stocking with a real girl so he can stop jacking off to porn on the internet. LMAO!
AsiaTraveler2
11-14-07, 07:48
Stop HIV????? Gawd! there are some ignorant people on this board these days.
Ciprobay or Ciprofloxacin etc. and Zithromax are a high-potency anti-biotics.
OTH,
Now if you can develop a drug serves as an anti-idiotic, you will have done mankind a great service.
AT2
Retired Army
11-14-07, 08:09
I can't stop laughing. This kid is not ignorant OTH. He is 14 years old. 14 year olds makes such lame statements. See his comment on the photo thread. He thinks AIDS caused a small ass pimple. I bet he also thinks babies come from storks, and he's been a good boy this year so Santa is going to stuff his stocking with a real girl so he can stop jacking off to porn on the internet. LMAO!
Give the poor kid a break, he's from Canada...
AlLostInSpace13
11-14-07, 10:06
Last week after having a few beers I was walking towards soi cowboy and passed by a couple of Thai chicks. One of them came forward and grabbed my crotch. I wasn't too alarmed and found her other hand in my back pocket. I just pushed her away and kept walking - she wasn't my type. A few seconds later I realized that she was trying to pick my pocket. I turned back and gave her a stare and kept moving on. Fortunately my wallet was in the front pocket.
On my way back I saw the same 2 girls hudled in a dark corning gigling and counting what appeared to be money. Looked like some poor sap fell for the trick.
Old Thai Hand
11-14-07, 10:30
Last week after having a few beers I was walking towards soi cowboy and passed by a couple of Thai chicks. One of them came forward and grabbed my crotch. I wasn't too alarmed and found her other hand in my back pocket. I just pushed her away and kept walking - she wasn't my type. A few seconds later I realized that she was trying to pick my pocket. I turned back and gave her a stare and kept moving on. Fortunately my wallet was in the front pocket.
On my way back I saw the same 2 girls hudled in a dark corning gigling and counting what appeared to be money. Looked like some poor sap fell for the trick.
Are you sure they were girls? This is a common ploy of Katoeys.
ThaiLearner
11-14-07, 13:35
Last week after having a few beers I was walking towards soi cowboy and passed by a couple of Thai chicks. One of them came forward and grabbed my crotch. I wasn't too alarmed and found her other hand in my back pocket. I just pushed her away and kept walking - she wasn't my type. A few seconds later I realized that she was trying to pick my pocket. I turned back and gave her a stare and kept moving on. Fortunately my wallet was in the front pocket.
On my way back I saw the same 2 girls hudled in a dark corning gigling and counting what appeared to be money. Looked like some poor sap fell for the trick.
One lesson you have learnt is that never put your wallett in your back pocket.
Thanks for informing me. I have no idea what I can get in a thai drugstore. Now I do.
a quick rundown of venues tried out last week:
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (alley off soi 8): bj bar. girls sit outside in their schoolgirlish uniforms. bar inside lower level, action is done upstairs in curtained-off alcoves. a little mechanical and too quick for my taste, but good to get your rocks off quickly. i spun by 3 times to see who was outside, very little fantasy material but plenty of 5-6s. 700bht for bbbj, the one provider i tried here asked for a tip after an energetic but average performance. the girls seem to self-select which one will approach a new customer.
aviva's massage (alley off soi 8): massage parlor, up-to-full-service available from all providers. this got some bad reviews here but giotto wrote it up recently as much improved, so thought i'd try it. stopped by 3 times, you can pick from the girls in a small room (if you're western-tall you can peek in) or from a book of photos. the photos in the book include those on the website. several cute girls were repeatedly unavailable (busy, on holiday, not there yet, etc) but two girls i tried on different occasions were eager to please, gave a decent massage, and didn't seem to be watching the clock. fs is 1500bht. cheapest massage is 300bht for thai-style 1-hour. decent place to stop in off-hours or if you don't want to deal with getting somebody back to your hotel.
beirgarden (soi 7): i checked this out 3-5 times briefly at different times between 2 and 7pm. it was usually busy-to-full, lots of 4-5s. a few lookers, but not many. prices nice and cheap, took a girl for st for 1000bht. she was pleasant and cheerful (though once naked, her crude c-section scar didn't do much for me! but she was enthusiastic). good for off-hours or if you're staying nearby, but quality isn't what i look for.
food court near beirgarden (soi 7): despite a note i read that this might be a decent freelancer spot, nobody notable on several walkbys.
sposso's nightclub (hyatt erawan): thought i'd check out this upscale location that has gotten some discussion here as hit-or-miss for freelancers. great live cover band (club tunes but performed live, very impressive). swank looking place, mediocre service, expensive drinks (~300bht for a singha). a weeknight was packed with well-dressed cuties, some definitely looking to be picked up, or willing to be. chicks no more attractive (or less so) than other places, but dressed well and done up well. probably not the place for guys who have trouble approaching chicks back home, who don't like nightclubs, or are on a tight mongering-budget. i checked it out again on a weekend night and a very different crowd with fewer girls and less energy.
nana hotel carpark after hours (soi 4): as i mentioned in a previous post, i was unimpressed with the selection here, but the coffee shop seemed like a good place to hang out and watch the mongering action. a very small number of cuties after hours, but mostly slim pickings. i didn't check prices.
nana entertainment plaza (soi 4): i like the proximity of the go-gos here, but don't like that you can't tell what each one is like inside without actually going in. i tried rainbow on the advice of a recent post here and was pleased at the quality. a number of cuties on a weeknight. took a little hot number from isan, 600bht barfine.
landmark hotel lobby bar (near soi4 on sukhumvit): in my search for freelancers, i popped into this lounge around midnight on a friday night. it was empty except for couples. if anybody has had any luck around the landmark, let me know.
street scene (soi 5 - soi 11): the nightly market here is busy until at least 4am. i noticed below-average looking girls and katoeys available at many different times, but several times noticed cute girls (6-8s) standing around who looked available for p4p at odd times like 7pm on a saturday. i was occupied those times so didn't ask for pricing. worth keeping your eyes open on the way to/from the hotel, dinner, etc!
absolutely 100%. there are so many giveaways. too much makeup, very few "girls" and very few guys. if you don't see many customers, your radar better go up right away. then look for all of the other signs. it should not take more than a peek in the bar and 5 seconds for the rest to register in your brain, for you to figure it out.
at2good tips. from my experience also look out for:
- tall girls (for thai standards)
- boots (hiding the big feet)
- scarf or other "clothing" around the neck (for obvious reasons)
- voice (also for thai/asian standards)
but all this may not help in all cases. sometimes they are really good actors and have undergone very good plastical surgery. so just be aware of the possibility and don´t feel too fooles if it takes a little longer to recognise - as long as you don´t have choosen "him" already.
typically the katoyes are also more aggressive or "seriously" enthusiastic in approaching farangs. sure also the real girls approach you...but i think it´s more than just my personal experience that girls seldom hang on you when you do not keep communicating with them while katoyes tend to get in direct contact.
but for a newby to los the difference can be real hard to judge.
Mate,
I think the below link should be HOLLYWOOD disco.
Cheers
Hi All,
I hope the youtube links donot violate the forum's policy. I am posting these in the interest of fellow hobbyists.
Been to LOS a number of times, done the soapies and the massage parlours, but this seems too much fun to have been missed out on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQUErisbVSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5o_TF9Uaf8
Which club is this? Please let me know.
I am not an idiot. I am not doing this for a hobby, but am in a serious search for a wife who is kind enough to let me do raw FS, release my load inside her, and let me impregnate her. I could then marry her, and bring her and my new child back to Canada. I just do not have the luxury of finding a real nice lady back home, so I have no choice but to go where I could find a wife.
To do this, it is a bit risky, and I need to be careful. I have tried 11 years trying to find a girl back in Canada with no luck, so I have chosen to take my last resort route. Does anyone know where I can get lucky?Penom Penh might be a good place to start.
In Thailand, how much status would I get with women being a Farang?None. Try Cambodia.
You know, if they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, just take a 20 baht note, and stomp on the king's face in front of them. Tell them to stop idol worshipping their fucking emperor and to make a republic. Now that will wake them up for sure.
Yeah. Right.
"I woke them up", he thought from his hospital bed. Then, as he continued to awaken, he noticed that his wrist was handcuffed to the bed frame.
Old Thai Hand
11-16-07, 01:12
You know, if they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, just take a 20 baht note, and stomp on the king's face in front of them. Tell them to stop idol worshipping their fucking emperor and to make a republic. Now that will wake them up for sure.
Another developmentally-handicapped moron rears his ugly head on ISG.
Reading your posts, it's no wonder you haven't found a girl in 11 years of trying in Canada.
Another developmentally-handicapped moron rears his ugly head on ISG.
Reading your posts, it's no wonder you haven't found a girl in 11 years of trying in Canada.
See you during visiting hours at the BKK Hilton
Enjoy.........
Professor 1
11-16-07, 02:11
You know, if they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, just take a 20 baht note, and stomp on the king's face in front of them. Tell them to stop idol worshipping their fucking emperor and to make a republic. Now that will wake them up for sure.I would strongly suggest that you NOT do this.
Give the poor kid a break, he's from Canada...Fuck this kid. There is no excuse for disrespect even if you're Canadian. He's been pissing off senior members here with his stupid immature comments. No harm, no foul. But, he crossed the line with his last comment about desecrating the King. Jackson, banned this fool from the forum. He has contributed only stupidity. I thought he was 14 but 11 seems more like it.
Member #3428
11-16-07, 04:27
You know, if they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, just take a 20 baht note, and stomp on the king's face in front of them. Tell them to stop idol worshipping their fucking emperor and to make a republic. Now that will wake them up for sure.
Let me know when and where someone does this, especially a farang, I'd enjoy the show that would follow...
Retired Army
11-16-07, 04:30
You know, if they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, just take a 20 baht note, and stomp on the king's face in front of them. Tell them to stop idol worshipping their fucking emperor and to make a republic. Now that will wake them up for sure.
My God, you are a freaking idiot.
SidTheSexist
11-16-07, 07:01
Check out this guys posts in the China Forum. He is obviously not right!
Old Thai Hand
11-16-07, 11:48
Maybe it's just somebody (mmmmm, I wonder who. Dom.....? naah! couldn't be...) taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
Otherwise, he really is quite frightening.
Jungle Bluebird
11-16-07, 12:18
Just checked the China thread... from Stephen Olson in response to NIcFrenchy..
'You do realize, you can get AIDS doing this. I want to blow my load inside someone, but how safe is it, and how can I have them come to my youth hostel?'
eh???? some days I just love this forum.. so funny.
see http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2318
JB
Maybe it's just somebody (mmmmm, I wonder who. Dom.....? naah! couldn't be...) taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
Otherwise, he really is quite frightening.
Fuck this kid. There is no excuse for disrespect even if you're Canadian. He's been pissing off senior members here with his stupid immature comments. No harm, no foul. But, he crossed the line with his last comment about desecrating the King. Jackson, banned this fool from the forum. He has contributed only stupidity. I thought he was 14 but 11 seems more like it.I agree for more than 100% with this point of view.
Wrong guy , wrong attitude and definitely on the wrong forum.
J.E.
Maybe it's just somebody (mmmmm, I wonder who. Dom.....? naah! couldn't be...) taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
Otherwise, he really is quite frightening.
I went and read all of this guys posts. He is seriously demented. The King comment should really be deleted from the forum. This guy obviously has absolutely no knowledge of Thailand or he would never have put that into writing. The very existence of that comment being here puts this forum at risk with Thailand. You never know who in the government might read it and what their reaction to it might be.
Jackson, you really should delete that posting and all the quotes of it from the forum. It really has no place here and is not relevant to the purpose of this forum.
I removed my earlier posting with the quote from Stephen. This guy is an idiot!!! His last comment on the king was totally uncalled for!
If you did this in the street in Thailand and started to say negative things about the king, you would not be walking away. Because a crowd would kick the S%@t out of you. I would suggest you did not do this in Thailand, less you had a death wish! But maybe he has a death.
I would guess he has not spent any amount of time in Thailand, because he does not understand the Thai People respect for the King.
To each your own, but I would believe Stephen is a person that likes to hear his voice. It easy for a person to talk smart on the board, but is he the same in real life??? Posting like this is just a waste of space, have no value for anyone and should be removed.
This pinhead is obviously a wind up. That is why we have the ignore function.
Disrespecting the King of Thailand would be like spitting on an image of the Pope in front of Catholics in their church, only worse. Expect a reaction like you'ld get from badmouthing someone's mama.
I visited Thailand recently and checked out some places in Bangkok while I was there. A few surprising things I was not aware of before visiting.
- Many of the bars in Bangkok close down at 2 AM, some of the "entertainment clubs" like on Ratchadapisek Rd at 1 AM.
- The prices: Hotels in Bangkok are about the same as many cities I've been to in South America. However the service at high end hotels is amazing and the taxis are unbelievably inexpensive (less than 2 dolllars to get anywhere in the city). Girls ranged in price but you could have a girl all night for 2000 Baht if you bother to negotiate.
- The pollution is horrible, one of the worst I've ever experienced.
I found the street scene around Sukhumvit a rather sad spectacle that was not particularly enticing. The chaos of the streets with grasshoppers being cooked alongside other food, fake watches, DVDs and girls literally grabbing you as you walked by. The lady boys are also a disturbing site. The mongers around there are a rather strange lot as well. Mongers from literally everywhere, Africa, China, Middle east, and many Europeans. Very few Americans really. On the way to Ratchadapisek road, a Taxi took me to a club called Embassy without me asking and in there I saw a group of about 10 muslim men bidding and shouting on the women in a spectacle that was worth seeing even if the girls in there were pretty run down and the place was a dive.
I pulled a few girls from clubs in Nana plaza area like Rainbow. Bar fine was 600 Baht (about 20 USD) and for total night I gave her 3000 Baht (95 USD).
I dropped into several clubs on Ratchadapisek, I found a stunner from Chiang Mai who spoke no English at Amsterdam (formely known as Champs Elysee). She was 4,100 Baht and get this, they take credit cards! I charged it on my American Express (don't leave home without it). This was a really nice experience that lasted about 90 minutes. Next trip I hope to visit Chiang Mai and maybe Pattaya.
M P Lurker
11-17-07, 13:48
I visited Thailand recently and checked out some places in Bangkok while I was there. A few surprising things I was not aware of before visiting.
- Many of the bars in Bangkok close down at 2 AM, some of the "entertainment clubs" like on Ratchadapisek Rd at 1 AM.
- The prices: Hotels in Bangkok are about the same as many cities I've been to in South America. However the service at high end hotels is amazing and the taxis are unbelievably inexpensive (less than 2 dolllars to get anywhere in the city). Girls ranged in price but you could have a girl all night for 2000 Baht if you bother to negotiate.
- The pollution is horrible, one of the worst I've ever experienced.
I found the street scene around Sukhumvit a rather sad spectacle that was not particularly enticing. The chaos of the streets with grasshoppers being cooked alongside other food, fake watches, DVDs and girls literally grabbing you as you walked by. The lady boys are also a disturbing site. The mongers around there are a rather strange lot as well. Mongers from literally everywhere, Africa, China, Middle east, and many Europeans. Very few Americans really. On the way to Ratchadapisek road, a Taxi took me to a club called Embassy without me asking and in there I saw a group of about 10 muslim men bidding and shouting on the women in a spectacle that was worth seeing even if the girls in there were pretty run down and the place was a dive.
I pulled a few girls from clubs in Nana plaza area like Rainbow. Bar fine was 600 Baht (about 20 USD) and for total night I gave her 3000 Baht (95 USD).
I dropped into several clubs on Ratchadapisek, I found a stunner from Chiang Mai who spoke no English at Amsterdam (formely known as Champs Elysee). She was 4,100 Baht and get this, they take credit cards! I charged it on my American Express (don't leave home without it). This was a really nice experience that lasted about 90 minutes. Next trip I hope to visit Chiang Mai and maybe Pattaya.
Nice report. You have wetted my appetite for a bit more.
I wondered if you could be a bit more expansive about Embassy Club, since I have no idea what was going on there.
Also I would love to hear more about your Amsterdam experience. I was tempted by a reall looker model who was quoted at 5100 Baht, but I didn't stay and went to another club. Later I regretted not staying.
Timewaster
11-17-07, 18:22
Mate,
I think the below link should be HOLLYWOOD disco.
CheersAny more info on this place?
The girls (hopefully they are girls) looks super hot.
Are they availible or only there for dancing?
Maybe it's just somebody (mmmmm, I wonder who. Dom.....? naah! couldn't be...) Nah, really couldn't be. Love him or hate him, Domino added grunt to this forum. He gave me a bit of crap while we were sparring, but I knew he had a salivating grin on his face while he was typing away in his pension room in Japan. He had an acid sense of humor, but his imitators are like Domino on valium.
Old Thai Hand
11-18-07, 08:27
Nah, really couldn't be. Love him or hate him, Domino added grunt to this forum. He gave me a bit of crap while we were sparring, but I knew he had a salivating grin on his face while he was typing away in his pension room in Japan. He had an acid sense of humor, but his imitators are like Domino on valium.
I wasn't actually serious. It's just good to raise the ghost of Domino, every so often to remind of us of the good old days when this board had some kick. Now it seems to be full of weenies who are so unsure of themselves that they need a whole thread just to figure out how to spot a katoey...pathetic.
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 09:13
I wasn't actually serious. It's just good to raise the ghost of Domino, every so often to remind of us of the good old days when this board had some kick. Now it seems to be full of weenies who are so unsure of themselves that they need a whole thread just to figure out how to spot a katoey...pathetic.
Having a thread "How to spot a katoey" is a very sensible idea indeed, Mr. Grumpy.
#1 For threads that don't interest you, you don't have to open them at all. Thats a plus until someone posts in the wrong thread.
#2 It is well known the newbies to Thailand do not know how beautiful Katoeys can be , end up being psychologically very disturbed when they find their partner has a dick after already indulging in other things.
#3 Some forum members are absolutely paranoid about katoeys to the extent that one member reported being disgusted by Soi Cowboy being full of katoeys when the truth is that there are very few katoeys in Soi Cowboy (compared to Nana Patong beach, etc.)
#4 Some forum members suggest ridiculous, IMHO, ways of recognising katoeys such as whether they know a certain card game, or how they smell.
So someone is needed to point out sensible katoey traits to watch for.
#5 Most of us can admit to incidents where we were quite slow to come up with the theory that we were probably looking at a katoey on the other side of the room, but still perhaps being unsure.
Is your day spoiled if you don't find something to look down on?
O.K. There will always be a mix forum members, and clearly many will not have anything to offer you, but thats life and can you expect more from a bunch of mongers?
Now your report on TLL was great, so keep up the informative stuff that newbies can learn from.
P.S.Sorry about my bad spelling. I always type too quickly.
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 10:01
<cut>Hence I figured you werent a fan of the place before and have now seen the light (excuse the pun!), or perhaps your experiences before included a different lineup of women etc.
As for your comment before about freaking out the hygene brigade, I know a lot of people on here wouldnt dream of kissing or going down etc on women on the P4P scene, (to go back to a previous thread). But I think you will know when something is not right down there, either the taste or smell and you will act (or react) accordingly. I have a hard time getting into any session unless there is DFK or DATY, and my love for that particular act has evolved into a love for AR now as well. I just cannot imagine sex without those things.
L A Guy,
Sorry I somehow missed your posts at first. Not sure what went wrong.
Nic Frenchy's posts convinced me that certain fantasies could easily be experienced at SOL, and its handy it opened so early.
I thought I would prefer it to Eden as could spend time to suss out if I liked any girls first.
Mick
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 10:03
This could of course be a complete co-incidence Mick, but I was in Dollhouse last week sometime (I honestly cannot remember the night, but it was about that time and it was a few days before Halloween). There were a bunch of service girls dancing because there were very few dancers left, and a guy sitting by the side of the stage had a whole group of them around him and had bought them all drinks and they were playing some kind of game which involved the girls downing full bottles of beer. I only paid them brief attention, because I was distracted by someone on the stage, but I was wondering if it was possible that we were in fact in the same place at the same time. That would have been quite a coincidence I think?
Anyways, a great tale! These are the kinds of stories I always enjoy reading. I am going to report soon on a similar expereince I had at Heavens Above in Pattaya.
Well yes its entirely possible we were both there at the same time, although that guy may well have that drinking competition every night.
Nice report. You have wetted my appetite for a bit more.
I wondered if you could be a bit more expansive about Embassy Club, since I have no idea what was going on there.
Also I would love to hear more about your Amsterdam experience. I was tempted by a reall looker model who was quoted at 5100 Baht, but I didn't stay and went to another club. Later I regretted not staying.
Embassy was someplace I would avoid, the mamasan quoted me 3000 baht and then as I walked out dropped the price to 1500. So if you do actually find a nice girl there you could probably get a great deal if you are willing to walk out. Only reason I mentioned it here was I was brought there involuntarily by a taxi trying to get his cut. Inside there was a crazy scene with all those guys shouting, pointing and bargaining with the mamasans like it was some kind of middle eastern bazaar.
Amsterdam was nice, it was kind of low key, the girls are there behind a spotlight right near where you sit at a table. Mostly Asian clientèle. You have a drink and decide while an English speaking mamasan will answer questions about the girls and explain the prices. The room itself was nice, with a big jacuzzi and lots of space. The price was a bit steep but I enjoyed the experience.
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 10:20
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Mick, with regards to "the top dancer" in Long Gun, who are you referring to specifically here, or is that just your opinion of who the top dancer is. I know there are 3 or 4 who I would consider the top group. But they tend to change from time to time. I went there recently and I didnt recognise half of them from the last time I went a few months before. There was one girl named Z-- who used to dance there for a long time but I havent seen her for a while. I always thought she was the best one, she had an amazing body which she ruined recently by having a tit-job. There is another girl there who is so beautiful she has no business working in a go-go bar. And do you know what the story is with that girl with the white hair? She seems very up with herself, at least thats the impression I get. I have never spoken to her but she looks like she could be a lot of fun if she dropped the attitude.
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Well, L A Guy, having been to Long Gun quite a few times over the last year, it was clear to me that the complexly choreographed dance routines were confined to a particular dance pair, with one girl being slightly more skilled than the other. When one of these girls left Long Gun, the complex dance routines have disappeared, as only one girl left, named N..., has the required skill and dance experience for it. Her current dance partner isn't quite up to the same standard. So its not so obvious who is "best" right now.
Could have been Z... who left this pair, I don't know. The one who left was reasonably tall and had a good body and I can't recall anything about the fake tits. Do you remember their trench-coat, and bowler hat routine?
The "best" dancer is a skinny but sexy girl who rarely goes with customers.
She does drink a lot of tequillas though and these days is not so shy about nudity as she used to be, especially when slightly drunk.
The "white haired" girl does seem to be "up herself" somewhat.
Its not unusual to find bar-girls who have become quite "up themselves".
Not sure if they were always like that or if the bar has changed them.
I was challenged to a dart (magetic tip replaces point) throwing competition with her (the white haired one). The board target zones would Read "remove your top","remove your pants","remove your underpants", etc.
She hit the "remove pants" quickly, so I was down to my jocks. I missed the target completely a couple of times but enventually I hit "remove underpants" first. So thankfully for the bar, she had to get the knickers off.
She was quite pissed off about this despite normally getting her knickers off quite regularly on the stage. The top dancer, N..., would be too shy to play this game and risk having to get her knickers off. If I had to get my jocks off, no big problem, I would have flaunted it. Fortunately I have recently lost 7 kg, so my figure is not as bad as used to be. My GF doesn't even call me "Muu Uan" (fat piggy) any more.
I was more concerned about my wallet in my removed pants pocket with a lot of cash in it.
Old Thai Hand
11-18-07, 11:34
Having a thread "How to spot a katoey" is a very sensible idea indeed, Mr. Grumpy.
#1 For threads that don't interest you, you don't have to open them at all. Thats a plus until someone posts in the wrong thread.
#2 It is well known the newbies to Thailand do not know how beautiful Katoeys can be , end up being psychologically very disturbed when they find their partner has a dick after already indulging in other things.
#3 Some forum members are absolutely paranoid about katoeys to the extent that one member reported being disgusted by Soi Cowboy being full of katoeys when the truth is that there are very few katoeys in Soi Cowboy (compared to Nana Patong beach, etc.)
#4 Some forum members suggest ridiculous, IMHO, ways of recognising katoeys such as whether they know a certain card game, or how they smell.
So someone is needed to point out sensible katoey traits to watch for.
#5 Most of us can admit to incidents where we were quite slow to come up with the theory that we were probably looking at a katoey on the other side of the room, but still perhaps being unsure.
Is your day spoiled if you don't find something to look down on?
O.K. There will always be a mix forum members, and clearly many will not have anything to offer you, but thats life and can you expect more from a bunch of mongers?
Now your report on TLL was great, so keep up the informative stuff that newbies can learn from.
P.S.Sorry about my bad spelling. I always type too quickly.
Well, not really grumpy...I just find it a somewhat funny thread to have. Sometime ago I wrote what I (and quite a few others) thought was a fairly comprehensive way to spot katoeys - it's in the RODs...
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=432826&postcount=181
One very minor edit, I'd like to make to this post is that not all universities allow katoey to wear female uniforms. Seeing one in a male uniform is about as good identifier as any-LOL. At the uni where I teach part-time, katoey are allowed to wear female uniforms. But, it still doesn't hide the obvious. At the uni where I work full-time, they must register as male students and wear male uniforms. Over the years, I've had many katoeys in my classes. An odd thing is that I currently have a female student who is going through some gender-reassignment - quite unusual anywhere, even here.
Anyway, from the moment I stepped off the plane in January 1997 until now, I've never ever been fooled by katoeys. If you understand even the slightest bit about physiology, especially how the pelvis makes men and women walk differently (something that can't be altered with surgery or hormones), you don't need to look at their hands and feet, judge their height or look for an Adam's apple. Another dead give away is the sound of their voices (like they swallowed a kazoo) and how they speak Thai, which has a really faked feminity about it, is often exaggerated beyond belief and has nothing at all to do with how Thai women really speak. Lastly, their mannerisms are way off. Thai women are usually quite subtle and subdued in their behaviour. Katoeys are always loud and brash. It's quite simple, really.
Oh, Bangkok! After a lapse of one year I was in BKK last week. Things certainly has changed for the worse towards mongers point of view. First , the almighty dollar took a nosedive, then the girls are definitely changed from sweet little fucking things to business savvy executives.
The go go bar prices gave me a sticker shock. 600 B barfine is same. LT is now 3000 B. WOW! No more sweet talk over a lady drink. Girls immediately want to know whether you are going to barfine or are they wasting their time. One girl even rejected a lady drink I offered once she found out I am not her meal ticket for the night. Would have made her accountant very happy.
Some massage girls are complaining that the number of single visitors are less these days. I guess they all are in Cambodia!
Went to the famous beer garden. Guess what? Lt is same 3000 B. A year ago it was 1500 or less.
When did prices hike up to this stage almost comparable to New York?
I have decided. Next time I go to BKK I am definitely doing what the tourists do. Visit temples and PRAY!
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 12:48
Well, not really grumpy...I just find it a somewhat funny thread to have. Sometime ago I wrote what I (and quite a few others) thought was a fairly comprehensive way to spot katoeys - it's in the RODs...
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=432826&postcount=181
One very minor edit, I'd like to make to this post is that not all universities allow katoey to wear female uniforms. Seeing one in a male uniform is about as good identifier as any-LOL. At the uni where I teach part-time, katoey are allowed to wear female uniforms. But, it still doesn't hide the obvious. At the uni where I work full-time, they must register as male students and wear male uniforms. Over the years, I've had many katoeys in my classes. An odd thing is that I currently have a female student who is going through some gender-reassignment - quite unusual anywhere, even here.
Anyway, from the moment I stepped off the plane in January 1997 until now, I've never ever been fooled by katoeys. If you understand even the slightest bit about physiology, especially how the pelvis makes men and women walk differently (something that can't be altered with surgery or hormones), you don't need to look at their hands and feet, judge their height or look for an Adam's apple. Another dead give away is the sound of their voices (like they swallowed a kazoo) and how they speak Thai, which has a really faked feminity about it, is often exaggerated beyond belief and has nothing at all to do with how Thai women really speak. Lastly, their mannerisms are way off. Thai women are usually quite subtle and subdued in their behaviour. Katoeys are always loud and brash. It's quite simple, really.
Yes you have some useful points although of the several classifications of pelvis type, A, B, C etc. I seem to recall that there is one type that is found in both men and women.
I do agree that most Katoeys when trying to walk like a women, over exaggerate it so that it looks silly really. And most of their supposedly feminine traits are usually over-exaggerated. Not all guys are highly observant of these things.
But perhaps we should be in another thread ....
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 12:56
Oh, Bangkok! After a lapse of one year I was in BKK last week. Things certainly has changed for the worse towards mongers point of view. <cut>
WOW! No more sweet talk over a lady drink. Girls immediately want to know whether you are going to barfine or are they wasting their time. One girl even rejected a lady drink I offered once she found out I am not her meal ticket for the night. Would have made her accountant very happy.
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Fortunately, you are exaggerating some of these claims, or else I chose better bars and better girls to sit with than you.
I had more problems with girls requiring a lot of persuasion to go with me before the price was even discussed.
One girl doesn't go with customers for boom-boom, another had her young sister staying with her, another had her period, etc.
I don't recall if even one bar-girl recently asked me how much I would pay, before she went with me.
So look, bar girls vary tremendously.
Jimmy Red Cab
11-18-07, 14:20
I don't recall if even one bar-girl recently asked me how much I would pay, before she went with me.
So look, bar girls vary tremendously.
I take it you do not frequent the popular Go-Go bars such as Rainbow 4, I think those girls will want to discuss finances before they leave the bar with you.
The days of girls in Bangkok saying "up to you" are confined to the history books.
M P Lurker
11-18-07, 15:10
I take it you do not frequent the popular Go-Go bars such as Rainbow 4, I think those girls will want to discuss finances before they leave the bar with you.
The days of girls in Bangkok saying "up to you" are confined to the history books.
No I don't go to Nana Plaza any more.
But in Soi Cowboy it is by no means confined to the History books, even if it is not normal,
especially if girls know you to some extent, but even for first time girls in some cases. Perhaps I give a good impression when I am not stingy with buying a few lady drinks.
When I organised a 3 some with 2 bi-sexuals, both had been with me before, one many months ago. But price wasn't discussed this time (it may have been discussed the first time - I can't remember). They both were eager to try each other for the first time.
A girl from Long Gun went with me without discussing the price, but I had agreed to pay her bar fine from previous night as well as she had not turned up to work the previous night and would have been fined for that. Was her first night with me but had met me previously.
The girl who had never been with a customer before, certainly did not want to discuss money. She did not want to appear "buyable". It wasn't certain that I would get any sex, but I did.
When I did a take out of SOL girls price wasn't discussed but they obviously assumed I would pay at least the set price.
I have even been with girls from Nana car-park who were too shy to ask the price.
I am referring to Go Go bars. But anyway I always discuss the financial arrangement before I decide to take the girl unless I have been with her before. This is manly to avoid pouty face and unpleasant arguments the morning after. I am sure this has happened to many mongers. After a long night of drinking and sex the last thing you need is unpleasant exchanges in the morning which will spoil the whole day. But believe me I always pay little more than the agreed price depending on the performance ofcourse.
Well, the girl there should be ladies assume. Besides, you can ask the dancer to come to your table to drink with you by buying them ladies drink. But i don't think it's worthy as they will hop from table to table and the ladies drink isn't cheap.
For LT wise, I think maybe you can discuss with the ladies but i think the price will not be cheap.
Cheers..
Any more info on this place?
The girls (hopefully they are girls) looks super hot.
Are they availible or only there for dancing?
Came across some photo's BKK girls a couple of years old.
Oh, Bangkok! After a lapse of one year I was in BKK last week. Things certainly has changed for the worse towards mongers point of view. First , the almighty dollar took a nosedive, then the girls are definitely changed from sweet little fucking things to business savvy executives.
The go go bar prices gave me a sticker shock. 600 B barfine is same. LT is now 3000 B. WOW! No more sweet talk over a lady drink. Girls immediately want to know whether you are going to barfine or are they wasting their time. One girl even rejected a lady drink I offered once she found out I am not her meal ticket for the night. Would have made her accountant very happy.
Some massage girls are complaining that the number of single visitors are less these days. I guess they all are in Cambodia!
Went to the famous beer garden. Guess what? Lt is same 3000 B. A year ago it was 1500 or less.
When did prices hike up to this stage almost comparable to New York?
I have decided. Next time I go to BKK I am definitely doing what the tourists do. Visit temples and PRAY!Thats strange, because I was BKK a 3 weeks ago and get a few girls from beer garden for 1500LT, also few girls from Soi Cowboy 1800-2000LT + 600 barfine
Jimmy Red Cab
11-19-07, 16:31
Thats strange, because I was BKK a 3 weeks ago and get a few girls from beer garden for 1500LT, also few girls from Soi Cowboy 1800-2000LT + 600 barfine
1500 LT seems more realistic for a Beergarden girl, 3000 is totally over the top, you could get a Nana Plaza Go-Go girl for 3000 LT.
In the last 12 month, but especially in the last 6 months the requested costs of the girls have been going up fast! What is the real current or requested rates? Bar fines in the last 3 years have almost double and now the girls are doing the same with there rates.
A few years ago, I would Bar Fine a girl and more then half of them would answer the following question, "How much do you want for LT or ST?" with "It is up to you".
Today, you go in the Bar and there is less and less chit-chat talk with the girl over a drink or 2. Some of girls will sits down and don't even ask for a drink, they sit down and ask what your name, will you BF me within a few minute? Plus, quote a price right away!
In Bars like the Rainbows in Nana, you sit down order a drink, once you have a drink, one of Mamasans will come by and ask you which girl you want, instead of the girl coming over the sit down and talk, the Mamasan is asking you for the BF, before the girl sits down with you.
I think the real cause of the cost increases are coming from the Asian tourist coming to the western areas of Bangkok. 3 to 4 years ago, Asian tourist would be in different areas of town and you saw very few of them at Nana and Soi Cowboy. Today, more then of half of the people in these areas are Asian Tourist. The Asian Monger prefers finding a girl in these types of places, pay the money and get back to the hotel.
They also more free with the money and do not question the amounts being charge, becuase they think it is so cheap. They are always paying $1000 or $2000 a night at KTV in there home country. It does not take the girls long to figure this out, that the Asian have more money, they hand it over easier and it is easy work for them. The Asian guy will get his nut off and then go to sleep, plus the size difference.
The bars keep rising there BF, because they are selling less Girl Drinks too, with less and less girls wanting to sit in the bars drinking and more of them wanting to get BF and collect the ST fees from the guys and then returning to the bar.
I have been to some of the Korean Bars in Bangkok with Korean friends and they pay BF of 1500 Baht, the girls were getting 3000 to 4000 baht for ST and getting 5000 to 7000 baht for a LT and this was a few years ago. So the Asian guys do not even question on pay the higher BF and 3000 baht for a ST.
I think this is the cost difference with BF and the girl charges.
The other thing you didn’t see a few years ago, the girl that returns to the bar after a ST will get back into there dancing clothes and start dancing again to be BF again and do the cycle again.
In past, they would come back to the bar in Street Clothes and hang out to proudly show that she was BF to her Friends and talk the night away and not work. This way the girls that were not fined had a better chase of being BF that night. Today, they are back and ready to be BF multiple times a night to get the BF count up for the month and also to get another ST or LT fee that night again.
It is starting to change in Thailand, and the change is starting too come to fast! I hope it starts slowing down!
Markos Greece
11-19-07, 19:27
1500 LT seems more realistic for a Beergarden girl, 3000 is totally over the top, you could get a Nana Plaza Go-Go girl for 3000 LT.I got back from BKK on November 12 and I confirm the above mentioned prices.
Of course we are talking for girls in the scale of 8/10 and more.
I have the opportunity to make a stop in Bangkok.
When I try to find budget hotels in BK I never find less than 700 B.
In Pathaya I find hotels to 400 B easy.
I dont use the hotel much and I dont like to spend more than nesseserry.
But the place have to be ok!
Someone like me around and with some information where to go?
In the last 12 month, but especially in the last 6 months the requested costs of the girls have been going up fast! What is the real current or requested rates? Bar fines in the last 3 years have almost double and now the girls are doing the same with there rates.
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JimHart69,
I cannot confirm that. The bar fines are at THB 600 in Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy, since approx. 3 years. Some bars try THB 700 at the moment - but that is a new development, I just heard about it last week.
The girls still go ST for THB 1,500 and LT for THB 2,000. Of course the girls prices are slightly higher in the high season, based on the higher demand, same as all the years before.
Giotto
I have the opportunity to make a stop in Bangkok.
When I try to find budget hotels in BK I never find less than 700 B.
In Pathaya I find hotels to 400 B easy.
...Dick1,
Try the Khaosan Road area. You find some reasonably priced guesthouses there.
Giotto
Hey to all!
I just recently visited Bangkok, albeit with my missus, but nevertheless was a fun trip.
Couple of things though. The thai's seem intent on milking the tourists for as much as they can whenever they can? I don't mean this in an offensive manner but I spent the most on my first day with my daily spendings going lower and lower progressively everyday as we started to learn more about the city.
We firstly got knocked off by a tuk tuk driver who charged us 100 baht and took us to an alley somewhere near the Patpong market. We asked to be taken initially from State Tower (Sirocco) to Patpong night market but he detoured there as my wife was quite intent on checking out a "ping pong show".
Took us down a dark alley and into a small shady looking place. A gangster-ish looking guy demanded 700baht per person as admission fee. We thought that must've been a knock-off so we walked away. In the end we decided to pay 500baht per person which I later found out was still a knock off. Was a seedy little bar and they gave you 2 little pathetic glasses of beer. Or rather majority water and some beer.
After 15 minutes of watching a not so attractive lady going at it with a ping pong ball, we got tired of it and decided now to finally head to the Patpong night market. When we got there, lo and behold. 100 baht for a beer to watch these damn shows, no cover charge. We paid 5 times as much but nevermind. Holiday spirit.
Anyhow, I've heard (and read) that Bangkok can be a man heaven and caters to the different needs and requirements of different people so I was thinking of making another trip back, sans the wife of course, somewhere in the near future and probably cram in some work as well while I'm there so I was just looking to ask for some general advice. I hope that any readers will forgive me if I ask something already covered here as I tried the search function but I didn't really find what I wanted with the threads being so deep in.
I've heard of places like Soi Cowboy which I passed by on the way to my hotel on Wireless Road and I saw some go-go bars at the Patpong night market.
What is at Soi Cowboy? From what I came to understand, there are bars with alot of girls inside. Sex with these girls isn't a guarantee but rather you negotiate and the girls there are not that attractive?
What is Bar Fine?
Would the places here on Soi Cowboy be similar to the places at Patpong?
I also managed to check out the RCA at Ratchada. Much younger crowd with nice plush clubs like Route66 and Slim/Flix. Firstly, sorry that I forgot to mention, but I'm a 26yr old Malaysian Chinese male, average looking.
With places like these, where the crowd are mostly young party goers, what are the chances of scoring there? And would it be for monetary purposes as well or the girls are looking for a one night stand with the tourist?
As I can usually only get away for 2 nights or so AT MOST, I want to make sure that I know where I'm going and its guaranteed there instead of trying out dead-ends as I don't ahve much time.
I would be more interested in a looker somewhere along 8 or 9/10. Where can I find girls of this quality for a long term overnighter back at the hotel? What does it cost and is sex guaranteed or do you also go there try your luck? Is there any set rules or places to go to to know these things like an online guide? Preferably girls around the younger 20's as thats where I am as well.
Although this isn't related to mongering as this place didn't offer me extra services, but while my wife was shopping at Siam Paragon, I headed down to Soi 6 and I found "Chang's massage parlour and reflexology".
As I had visited what pra khaeow and what arun and a myriad of other temples that day, my feet and body were aching so I opted for a thai oil massage. Alot of flexing and turning during the 2 hrs with the built in shower in the enclosed rooms upstairs. I suppose there would be hanky-panky should you ask for it or initiate but the lady didn't initiate and I wouldn't be interested either due to the fatigue.
All in all the massage was very good and I definitely would look to get a massage there again if I was ever in Bangkok again.
Cost me 500baht which I have come to learn might be quite steep but heck, was a steep learning curve for me the first day in Thailand.
Anyhow, thanks to everyone in advance who will take the time to answer my questions and I look forward to my next trip there and hopefully I can come back home with some material to share as well!
Thanks once again
Regards,
Kenneth
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Retired Army
11-20-07, 12:47
The thai's seem intent on milking the tourists for as much as they can whenever they can?
Welcome to Thailand or anywhere else tourists flock.
I would be more interested in a looker somewhere along 8 or 9/10. Where can I find girls of this quality for a long term overnighter back at the hotel? What does it cost and is sex guaranteed or do you also go there try your luck? Is there any set rules or places to go to to know these things like an online guide? Preferably girls around the younger 20's as thats where I am as well.
I say you have to go to one of the member clubs such as Pegagus and ask for one of the models. Figure about 4-5K THB. She may be closer to 30 than 20 in age, but she will look closer to 20 than 30. Good for you so that when you drop your pants she will know what to do.
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And exactly why is this worthy of a report of distinction; just because he is new to the forum with no postings?
Well, not really grumpy...I just find it a somewhat funny thread to have. Sometime ago I wrote what I (and quite a few others) thought was a fairly comprehensive way to spot katoeys - it's in the RODs.
It's quite simple, really.To OTH and in addition to Mick L. his quoted port
I agree with that point of view but I will post this week another true experience on spotting LT or LB in the relevant section “ Identifying Transv. “
John Euro
Ira Johnson
11-20-07, 14:55
And exactly why is this worthy of a report of distinction; just because he is new to the forum with no postings?With all due respect, and realizing I am a newbie, it would seem that RODs are based on the moderator's opinion. One of my very first posts received an ROD suggestion, and I gladly posted in the ROD thread. The ROD instruction page states repeatedly that this is truly subjective and not a reward to the author.
While I agree that several reports that receive an ROD suggestion are not necessarily the most helpful or even best written, I personally try to follow ROD rule number 7.
7. If you don't like a report that has an ROD Link, just let it go.
However, in the words of the great Penn Jillette, I could be wrong.
From the late 90's until 2003, in most of the Bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy the BF where 400 THB during the off season (500 THB at the bigger bars during High Season) and the girls were 1000THB for ST and 1500THB for LT. Once some of the bars get 700THB for BF, they all will be on band wagon by the end of this High Season and it will not go down. The same thing is happen with girls on their prices.
The bottom line is that the prices are going up faster today then they have in the past. I put some of the relationship on the higher numbers Asian Tourist in the venues like Nana and Soi Cowboy. But there are other things too.
I am starting to see some of the girls do not want to be BF, because they are making more money in the bar dancing from tips then they can make ST or LT with a guy. I have seen a lot of guys tipping the girls 500 and 1000 THB for a good dance in the bar. I have heard of some of the girls making 5000 to 10000 THB at night just staying in the bar from tips. Why get BF if you can make more in the bar?
I lived in Korea from 83 to 92 and went thru the same thing in Korea. Back then Korea was a lot like Thailand is today. If you go to Korea today, this scene is almost complete gone and is mostly underground with VERY HIGH costs involved with it. I am afraid that the same thing is starting to happen in Thailand today.
There are pressures from the Thai Government, outside Countries and groups to clean up sex trade in Thailand. The landlords are starting to charge too much money for the Properties, causing the bars to raise their prices. With some of the bars in Nana selling for 1 to 2 million U.S. today, how do you get the money out of your investment at the current pricing? You can't! They have to rise there pricing. 10 years ago the same bars where selling for 25% of that.
Economies situations with wants and needs are pushing the prices up on drinks to services. The people in the business at the low levels, which are the girls, are learning you can make allot of money. In the past, you never heard of girls in this profession having a lot of money in Thailand, today there are girls in Nana working driving there car to work everyday and living in expense apartments in Bangkok. It is greed and we all want to do better in life, which is great, but it all cost something.
As with any type of business in the world, everything can get modernized and improve for people in the business. But with everything here is a cost, and the cost with this is the end user which is us and sooner or later the cost becomes to high and the business slow down because of the costs. Then add the pressure from the outside to end this trade in Thailand, it will all go away in time. I am afraid this is the path this is headed in Thailand and it is happen faster then we all think. It happen in Korea, it will happen in Thailand also.
We all have to enjoy it while it is still here. But with the pricing starting to increase at a accelerate rate, pressures from the outside of industrial and the mortal standard rising, along with media pushing on the subjects around the world, it will go away sooner or later.
The pressure started in 1988 in Korea and it took 10 year for it to go underground in Korea. I believe it is started in Thailand now and I sure hope it does not end within 10 years, but it is on the path.
I hope I am wrong! But it is starting to look like a parrellal to Korea back then!
JimHart69,
I cannot confirm that. The bar fines are at THB 600 in Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy, since approx. 3 years. Some bars try THB 700 at the moment - but that is a new development, I just heard about it last week.
The girls still go ST for THB 1,500 and LT for THB 2,000. Of course the girls prices are slightly higher in the high season, based on the higher demand, same as all the years before.
Giotto
Hi there,
I'm planning a trip to BKK for a week.Looking to have a lot of fun out there,and keen on real lookers .Would appreciate guidance as to where to look for the 8+ girls and also additional info. if any.Definitely not looking to throw money but willing to pay for quality. : ) Thanks in advance
KK
From the late 90's until 2004, in most of the Bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy the BF where 400 THB and the girls were 1000THB for ST and 1500THB for LT.
Jim,
My first trip to Bkk was in 2000 and the barfines at Nana were 500-600 baht.
JimHart, you are exactly correct - South Korea is a good predictor. I agree we have about ten years left, and I would even say that those 10 years will not be much fun. Already every year I have been in Thailand has been shadowed by a sense of impending doom. That said it is better than being back in the Prison, but having come from there, I know exactly where the world is going.
On the bright side.. well actually there is no bright side.
Naked Gunz
11-20-07, 19:29
Need help....Going to Bangkok next month..I usually go to Pattaya, so
I don't know Bangkok well. Where are the massage parlors where the girls
are naked already? I only really know Cupidy, but the pakage is wrapped
and I can't see what I'm getting. I hate how Asian women wear padded bras.
I saw a pic here that showed the fishbowl with the naked girls, but I can't
find it in this website horrible picture find area.
Jackson please do something to make it ez to go to a pic! Just spent 3 hours trying to find that pic.
It takes that much time just to get from Z to T section scrolling thru all those pages. You must be a sadist..
PM is encouraged..thanks...the Gunz
Hi there,
I'm planning a trip to BKK for a week.Looking to have a lot of fun out there,and keen on real lookers .Would appreciate guidance as to where to look for the 8+ girls and also additional info. if any.Definitely not looking to throw money but willing to pay for quality. : ) Thanks in advance
KKMy first thought was to just walk down the street, day or night, and there are many around.
If you think the photo section here is representative of TGs, you will be stunned when you get here.
See the usual haunts, NEP & Cowboy. Check out any bars in the P4P areas.
Pick up a copy of the magazine After Dark. Issue number four has almost nude pics of some stunners in BKK and Pattaya. And where to find them.
I've read the mentioning of a high and low season. I'm assuming this coincides with the weather patterns and we are now into a low season. Is this correct? When does the high season start and end? I'm assuming there may be some benefit in visiting during the low season. Availability and prices.
Old Thai Hand
11-21-07, 01:10
JimHart, you are exactly correct - South Korea is a good predictor. I agree we have about ten years left, and I would even say that those 10 years will not be much fun. Already every year I have been in Thailand has been shadowed by a sense of impending doom. That said it is better than being back in the Prison, but having come from there, I know exactly where the world is going.
On the bright side.. well actually there is no bright side.
As the pseudo-socialist you are, I should think you'd be happy that the "little guy" (or in this case, "the little girl") is doing better, economically. What's wrong with Thailand developing? You, yourself always go on about BKK not being Thailand. So, what if P4P in BKK prices itself out of existence? There's still all those cheap upcountry skanks, you're so fond of, right?
While it's been predicted for years, both Nana and Cowboy are going to be gone relatively soon. In 10 years, they will be but a memory. With the huge development rising fast at the corner of Asoke, the very upmarket nature of the area, now and the associated rise in the value of land, having a little ramshackle street of 4 storey shop-houses involved in a nefarious trade such as Cowboy is not consistent with the whole environment of the area. At the moment, it's a hold-out. But, it will not last much longer. I'll mourn it a little as I always liked Cowboy as being a somewhat friendly place to go. Although the last time I was there (about a month ago), the girls were a bit more pushy, there were more Japanese (wankers that they are), the girls were quite unattractive and the atmosphere overall was less friendly.
Expect Nana to follow in short order after the King dies. I expect a good deal of the Nana area to be developed, as well in the near future. It's crown land. The Royal Household Bureau is already doing this in other parts of the city: tossing out long-standing leaseholders, taking over the land and developing it. Believe it or not, Nana was once a "Royal" area with palaces and palatial mansions. What it has become in the last 40 years is quite sad, really. But, as Bangkok develops into a regional hub, which has been the plan for sometime, an area like Nana just doesn't fit into the plans. Personally, I won't be sad to see Nana go. I never liked the place and now the atmosphere is oppressive, if not downright hostile. I find the girls to be mediocre, at best and very high on themselves, for no good reason. They're still just ignorant farm-girls with no education, who if it wasn't for this place would be working 12 hour shifts in some factory in Samut Prakan for 3,000/month. Nana is over-run with socially-inept Japanese and Koreans and even Chinese all gawking like 14-y.o. boys with stupid grins and throwing money around like there's no tomorrow. I was there last Saturday for the first time in months. What a fucking shit-hole it is. Why anyone would enjoy going there is beyond me.
Anyway, don't worry, Mr. O., you never go there and the Chinese brothels in Yaowarat and the Indian ones in Phaharat will still be operating well into the future. I assume that Patpong, as shitty as it is will keep running for awhile, as well. And, while out of your price range, the Thai Massage places will never disappear. The same goes for the Thai gogos in Suthisan, at least for now.
JimHart69,
I cannot confirm that. The bar fines are at THB 600 in Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy, since approx. 3 years. Some bars try THB 700 at the moment - but that is a new development, I just heard about it last week.
The girls still go ST for THB 1,500 and LT for THB 2,000. Of course the girls prices are slightly higher in the high season, based on the higher demand, same as all the years before.
GiottoWhen I was in Morning and Night bar Soi Nana two months ago, the girl I was sitting with was asking 2000 THB ST and 3000 THB LT. She also said some girls in the bar were asking and getting 4500 THB LT. I know girls in Hillary Bar are asking the same ( 3000 THB LT), maybe because they have the same bar owner.
...the Chinese brothels in Yaowarat and the Indian ones in Phaharat will still be operating well into the future.
Ok, I've picked up the street girls in Chinatown, but I've never seen anything that looked like an actual brothel. And there are Indian brothels? Please, tell me more! Are they cheap? Would they admit a white? I wonder if Indian men hold the line on sai-toongs?
From listening to all this stuff about BKK getting too pricey, I need to get there fast. But the question does pop up, where is the next BKK? Is there a place that reminds you old timers (I mean, men of wisdom) of the way BKK used to be?
I've read the mentioning of a high and low season. I'm assuming this coincides with the weather patterns and we are now into a low season. Is this correct? When does the high season start and end? I'm assuming there may be some benefit in visiting during the low season. Availability and prices. Others can answer this better, but as I understand it in BKK we are now approaching the high season when tourism will be up and the weather the most cool and best of the year. I assume it is called high season because the numbers of farangs, that is, foreigners, is on the rise. I read somewhere of the high season in Pattaya being from November to March, and I think BKK must be quite similar. With a number of hotels and ladies this will mean charging more and less availability. But also more meat in town for rent.
While it's been predicted for years, both Nana and Cowboy are going to be gone relatively soon. In 10 years, they will be but a memory. With the huge development rising fast at the corner of Asoke, the very upmarket nature of the area, now and the associated rise in the value of land, having a little ramshackle street of 4 storey shop-houses involved in a nefarious trade such as Cowboy is not consistent with the whole environment of the area.As far as building appearances go that may be so, but what is consistent with the environment of the area is that it is just one big brothel. So even if the old structures where NEP and Cowboy are were demolished, this would probably result in them being rebuilt with bigger and better accomodations of the same name and for the same purpose.
Old Thai Hand
11-21-07, 12:03
Ok, I've picked up the street girls in Chinatown, but I've never seen anything that looked like an actual brothel. And there are Indian brothels? Please, tell me more! Are they cheap? Would they admit a white? I wonder if Indian men hold the line on sai-toongs?
Just ask around and you'll find them. I haven't been to them in years - too depressing. Although, I know aquaintenances who like to live dangerously, and still go to these places. I warn you though that the girls are quite unpleasant and not exactly stunning. There are similar places in Chiang Mai, as well, if you like places that have girls who are indentured sex-slaves - might be right up your alley.
Retired Army
11-21-07, 13:14
With all due respect, and realizing I am a newbie, it would seem that RODs are based on the moderator's opinion. One of my very first posts received an ROD suggestion, and I gladly posted in the ROD thread. The ROD instruction page states repeatedly that this is truly subjective and not a reward to the author.
While I agree that several reports that receive an ROD suggestion are not necessarily the most helpful or even best written, I personally try to follow ROD rule number 7.
7. If you don't like a report that has an ROD Link, just let it go.
However, in the words of the great Penn Jillette, I could be wrong.
From what I have seen a newbie could write a thousand words of complete nonsense that is totall unrelated to anything in reality and it gets recommended for a report of distinction. As to the report you refer it did nothing but ask newbie questions that have been addressed hundreds of times before and all the author had to do was search the forum for the answers. At least no one was rude enough to suggest that he RTFF.
Retired Army
11-21-07, 13:17
Jim,
My first trip to Bkk was in 2000 and the barfines at Nana were 500-600 baht.
I was first in Thailand in 1972 and then a LT was 100 baht at an exchange rate of 25 to $1 US.
Old Thai Hand
11-21-07, 14:13
I was first in Thailand in 1972 and then a LT was 100 baht at an exchange rate of 25 to $1 US.
RA
Are you, like me tired of all the whining and wimpering about the rise in prices? What do people expect? - that Thailand stay in some time warp? Costs are up for everything here and this even, G_d forbid trickles down to P4P. A good indicator of the reality, for example is something as basic as gasoline which was 9B/litre in 1997 and now is 30+. Ya, I remember when barfines were 300 and BGs, even from Nana would go LT for 1000. But, inflation and market forces hit everthing.
Deal with it, guys or go somewhere else!
Retired Army
11-21-07, 14:27
RA
Are you, like me tired of all the whining and wimpering about the rise in prices?
Cost of living goes up, that's Life. However, I agree that newbies, Japanese and Chinese have artifically inflated some of the prices in BKK.
Member #4351
11-21-07, 15:54
The reports of distinction recommendations appear to be automatically generated for new posters. (Maybe a marketing ploy by Jackson to get them to buy a membership). I´ll ask him next week.
Member #2041
11-21-07, 16:04
Cambodia's still cheap, and I hear that Bangladesh and Somalia are even cheaper. Of course, infrastructure's not that great, and you might have to deal with the occassional Cholera epidemic.
Just a thought on the reported cost of girls in Bangkok. I am not sure of the motivation but I am not sure why guys post on here that they can get girls from the go go bars for 1, 000THB short time. This may be possible with the ugly less popular girls but I can guarentee you will not get a hottie out of a bar for less than 1, 500THB (unless they have known you for a long time and you are short on cash and they expect it to be made up next time round etc etc). Newbies, do not believe it when you read reports of go go bar girls going for 1, 000THB. For a hottie you need to be thinking 2, 000THB (although if you buy the mamasan a few drinks she may get it down to 1, 500THB but the drinks would cost you the 500THB difference anyway).
Most people I know who have been here for a while prefer the freelancer scene which is almost always 1, 500THB for a short time or 1, 000THB if they are keen to make some money.
Even more ridiculous is the stories you read where guys say they were so good in bed that the girl refused payment. This is absolute nonsense.
RA
Are you, like me tired of all the whining and wimpering about the rise in prices? What do people expect? - that Thailand stay in some time warp? Costs are up for everything here and this even, G_d forbid trickles down to P4P. A good indicator of the reality, for example is something as basic as gasoline which was 9B/litre in 1997 and now is 30+. Ya, I remember when barfines were 300 and BGs, even from Nana would go LT for 1000. But, inflation and market forces hit everthing.
Deal with it, guys or go somewhere else!
OK, so take a place like Pattaya, which I know you hate and think is scumsville, what do you think is a fair price for women and beer?
Ira Johnson
11-21-07, 17:10
As to the report you refer it did nothing but ask newbie questions that have been addressed hundreds of times before and all the author had to do was search the forum for the answers. At least no one was rude enough to suggest that he RTFF.Hmmm, no, I think I'm going to have say you are wrong about that. Many of my posts have been quite worthy of shouts of "RTFF!!" and I have been rather surprised that I have not been snarled at in such a manner. My own report that received a ROD suggestion was actually my first REAL report, and detailed a quite disappointing experience. I assumed that perhaps the reason my report received such a suggestion was because I gave actual details and because my writing seems to have some grasp of English grammar and spelling.
But of course, since you have contributed more reports than I, I will defer to your opinion. As I said, I could be wrong.
The reports of distinction recommendations appear to be automatically generated for new posters. (Maybe a marketing ploy by Jackson to get them to buy a membership). I´ll ask him next week.That concept makes sense, but the name-dropping robs it of all credibility.
See, personally, I seek these forums to learn more about the hobby from respected and seasoned pros like you two. The curmudgeonly griping, though, gives the impression that the real problem is jealousy that a private club has been infiltrated by undeserving upstarts.
Again, with my pitiful double-digit posting, I am certain I have no reason to voice an opinion. Plus, since my posts (and those complaining about ROD suggestions) have less to do with Bangkok reports and more to do with site administration, I'll let that rest here.
Khun Larry
11-21-07, 17:38
OK, so take a place like Pattaya, which I know you hate and think is scumsville, what do you think is a fair price for women and beer?
Beer is super cheap in Pattaya, You can drink hinekin for 35 - 40 baht a bottle on Soi 7 all day / night
For the girl ST 500 - 1000 LT 1000 - 1500 is typical. Price will vary depending on your skills and her skills. Girls in a GOGO will ask double that but pussy is same same or worse
Khun Larry
11-21-07, 17:43
I've read the mentioning of a high and low season. I'm assuming this coincides with the weather patterns and we are now into a low season. Is this correct? When does the high season start and end? I'm assuming there may be some benefit in visiting during the low season. Availability and prices.
High season starts about now, Thanksgiving time. Low season starts mid - late March.
Naked Gunz
11-21-07, 19:17
SECOND REQUEST..
Names of a few fishbowls in BKK where the ladies are already nude...Am I asking for too much? I've consistantly given back to this forum..Why r u letting me down..how bout a lil help.
For a hottie you need to be thinking 2, 000THB (although if you buy the mamasan a few drinks she may get it down to 1, 500THB but the drinks would cost you the 500THB difference anyway).I am not sure I understand your point here, the price a girl quotes to go with you has nothing to do with the mamasan so I fail to understand how buying the mamasan drinks will result in the girl dropping her price. <??>
I think a lot of different people's experience with pricing has something to do with market forces, but also has a lot to do with the particular person in question. If the girl likes you for whatever reason (ie, handsome man, jai dee, well dressed, good hygiene, whatever), then generally speaking you will get her to go for a cheaper price than someone else might get her for. It is a definite case of YMMV.
Most people I know who have been here for a while prefer the freelancer scene which is almost always 1, 500THB for a short time or 1, 000THB if they are keen to make some money.In my experience, freelancers will generally go for THB1000 for ST, or even less occasionally. A couple of weeks ago I found a Rainbow 2 girl in Nana parking lot who agreed to THB1000 for 2 pops for example, but agreed to THB700 for one.
Even more ridiculous is the stories you read where guys say they were so good in bed that the girl refused payment. This is absolute nonsense.Yes there are some ridiculous tales out there for sure, however I am sure virtually everyone on this board has had a freebie or two over the years. If you are young especially and the girl takes a shine to you then this does happen. Nowadays when I sense a freebie, I still give her something anyway because it is the right thing to do and prevents complications later, although when I was younger and didnt know better I had some great freebies :)
second request..
names of a few fishbowls in bkk where the ladies are already nude...am i asking for too much? i've consistantly given back to this forum..why r u letting me down..how bout a lil help.
sorry buddy, there are no fishbowls with nude ladies. maybe in a few raunchier ones, you might want to ask the mamasan to bring you a girl and maybe she can give you a peek but that's about it. good luck.
Stiffoak 571
11-21-07, 20:21
As far as building appearances go that may be so, but what is consistent with the environment of the area is that it is just one big brothel. So even if the old structures where NEP and Cowboy are were demolished, this would probably result in them being rebuilt with bigger and better accomodations of the same name and for the same purpose.In Amsterdam they are going through this - areas of Red Light being forced sales so that the area can be made better for housing development - but all that will happen is that it will move to another area.
Wasnt Patpong the top area years ago - now it is Nana/Cowboy - things change and evolve but it isnt called "the oldest profession" for nothing and will survive
Any one know what is closed and what is open in Bangkok on Wednesday, December 5, the King's Birthday?
Thanks for the assistance.
there used to be some thai style places at suthisan on way to old airport. then you can see on stage at soi cowboy some times.
just a thought on the reported cost of girls in bangkok. i am not sure of the motivation but i am not sure why guys post on here that they can get girls from the go go bars for 1, 000thb short time. this may be possible with the ugly less popular girls but i can guarentee you will not get a hottie out of a bar for less than 1, 500thb (unless they have known you for a long time and you are short on cash and they expect it to be made up next time round etc etc). newbies, do not believe it when you read reports of go go bar girls going for 1, 000thb. for a hottie you need to be thinking 2, 000thb (although if you buy the mamasan a few drinks she may get it down to 1, 500thb but the drinks would cost you the 500thb difference anyway).
most people i know who have been here for a while prefer the freelancer scene which is almost always 1, 500thb for a short time or 1, 000thb if they are keen to make some money.
even more ridiculous is the stories you read where guys say they were so good in bed that the girl refused payment. this is absolute nonsense.
bowerboy, sorry bro, i understand your posting your findings, but i can tell you these are not typical findings. beergarden soi 7 is a 1,000 baht st max, it can be less. if you go very late you may just get lt for that price. i've had nana car park experiences (it hurts to admit it however), and i've never been asked for more than a 1,000 for 2pops, one girl included anal for an extra 500, yippee ! i am not young, i am not slim, i smoke, i dress smart causal, no flip flops, well groomed. go back 10 yrs and i received the 'handsum man, where you go?" call every where i went, i can't say i've heard that called out to me for several years now. maybe i'm no longer handsum !?
in my mind, mp's excluded (because the price is fixed), i have to agree with l a guy on this, there are so many factors that come into the price decision process, by her and you that the only thing you can ever count on is that ym will v.
the best thing you can do is suggest in a nice smiley way that you 'know' the normal price to be xyz, if she accepts great, if she doesn't you make the call. i would suggest not giving up the first time though, keep smiling, maybe offer a drink. there are without doubt girls in nana who are asking (and getting) 3-4,000 a st, but does that mean they all are.......no, the same as someone saying they had a 1,000 baht st from rainbow 4 last night, it doesn't mean everyone is getting it for that.
for a lot of the girls, first impressions are starting to count a little more than they used to, nothing to do with looks, simply to do with your appearance in terms of cleanliness, freindliness and your overall behaviour.
on another note, whats the big fascination of having to get cheap pussy, or the lowest available price ? if your at the stage where you've decided you want that person, then price should not be the factor, within a sensible limit of course, but thats up to your financial situation and knowledge of the scene, if you can't afford to play, then stay at home.
M P Lurker
11-22-07, 10:56
Bowerboy, sorry bro, i understand your posting YOUR findings, but i can tell you these are not typical findings. Beergarden Soi 7 is a 1,000 baht ST MAX, it can be less. <cut>etc..
Meaty,
He mentions "hotties" in bars (e.g. Nana Plaza Soi Cowboy I presume) and you switch to Beer Garten and "On the street".
Its just not the same thing.
O.K. Girls in SOL will fuck for 1K but this is an abnormal bar.
I agree with him, that mostly we won't do real well by offering 1K to the real popular girls in the bars in Bangkok unless perhaps their intention is to only spend 30 mins with you. Now some guys are happy with any ole girl but some of us are real fussy and want a "looker".
Not sure I agree that the mamasan will help him bargain the price down though.
My last trip to BKK (October 2007) was an amazing experience, and a lot of it wouldn't have happened without information learned from this and other boards. In the spirit of giving something back, here's some info about my last trip, from a grateful newbie.
First outing: Akane Chitlom. I'm a complete newb walking in, with a married man's concerns about diseases and god knows what else. I'll be lucky to get off at all, I think. Well, no problem. I buy the "hand service" package since I'm scared of lip service at this point (disease), and choose Shizuka from a line up of 3 (I went right at 12 noon). Up we go, and within the first 15 minutes she has me clean as a whistle, and hard as a rock. It turns out I like the prostate massage (who knew), so round one happens on the shower table. Nice massage followed by round 2, and she is receptive to my concerns and also to what's working for me and what's not. FOr most of you, this is boring, but for me it was my first step over to the dark side. She tells me she's 26. 1100 baht, I tipped 500.
Second outing: Annie's. Knowing nothing, I went at 11AM. Yes, there are 1/2 dozen women there, but I can't call any of them "girls". The youngest and prettiest of them looks like she's about my age (44). I am up for new experiences today, so choose her (her name's Olive). She is very slender, and has a nice body, but let's face it, 40 is not 20 (she tells me she's 43). Still, she manages to give me a good hand job, but then massages me for the rest of the time. I was not assertive enough to tell her what I wanted. Still a bit timid after coming over to the dark side, I guess. I wouldn't call it a bad experience, but let's put it this way: I've not returned. 1500 baht, I tipped 300 (didn't have the heart to tip nothing, but should have).
Third outing: Back to Akane chitlom. Right after Annie's, I'm feeling a bit let down, and decide to take a chance. I have also decided to try the lip service (covered), having learned a bit more about disease last night on the web. From the lineup, I choose Rikka (or is it Rika). I know now she works from Akane 33, but for some reason she was at Chitlom that day. Well, this was a real treat. Firstly, she has a bit more meat on her than some (but not fat), and I like that in a girl.- gives her a fuller chest and a more grabbable butt. Secondly, I chose her based on her engaging me with her eyes and smile, and was rewarded with someone willing to put herself into it a lot more than Olive. As with Shizuka, service was professional and effective. Only one shot this time, but this was my "fault". I actually felt completely satisfied after 1, so just hugged and talked with her for a while. Very GFE. I think she's 24. About 1500 baht, I tipped 500.
Fourth outing: Akane Chitlom again, but this time for the "half and half" (2nd girl joins after 1/2 time). Chose Miyuki, but not much selection. She was the best looker available, but this turns out to have been a mistake, since she's not making eye contact. Very uninspired performance, all massage and virtually no play, saved only by Ai coming in at half time and getting the job done. Perhaps on a different day or with a different customer Miyuki would be better, but I won't be taking that chance. Too bad really, because Miyuki has a body type I find attractive. 1780 baht, I think, and I tipped 500 each. I clearly shouldn't have tipped Miyuki, but once again, I have chosen to solve this issue by simply not repeating my choice.
Fifth outing: Poseidon, in search of body slide. "No body slide here for 4 years", papasan tells me. Oh well. Still up for new experiences. Chose a nice looking 24 year old whose name I can't remember, but performance was uninspired, so no big deal about the name. Number was 211. Papasan tells me "great body, not good service", but I have not yet learned that Papa sometimes knows best. Still, all is not bad. In addition to a great body, this one has an education, or so she tells me. Bachelors degree in economics, and soon to start an MBA. True? Who knows. Still, her English was very good. Good enough that we spoke about a lot of subjects. She tells me she has 3. 4 customers per day, 6 days/wk. I figure out if she makes a total of 500 baht from each one (tip plus anything the house pays her? ), she's pulling in about 10, 000 baht per week, or about 40k/month (about $1200 US). I'm sure some earn much more, and I'm sure some earn much less. But if she is average, this is indeed a very good living for Bangkok. Over double what I've been told the average "middle" salary is for ordinary working people. I'm pleased to hear this, because I don't like the idea of plundering Bangkok's treasures unless they're doing well out of it too. A combination of CBJ and sex follows a great bath and an OK hand job, but the reality is that this girl really shouldn't be here because her mind's not in it (she's there to pay for school), and it comes through. The talk and snuggle was the best part. Funniest moment came when she commented on how tall I was, but thank goodness my penis wasn't too big. She meant it in a nice way, I know, but it was hilarious. Junior has never been so insulted 2500 baht, I tipped 500.
As an aside, I've discovered that I don't need the full 2 hours, or even 1. 5 hours (unless there's a lot of massage). For me, strange as it may sound, one shot plus a lot of cuddling and talking and laughing is enough. You may feel completely different, I suppose, but I've come to the conclusion that this is just fine. I felt a little self conscious coming back to the fish bowl room after only an hour. Do they think I can't perform? Are they wondering if I had a good time? Well, I did have a good time, and since I got what I wanted, I'm a happy customer. Still, I wonder what they really think.
Sixth outing: Akane Chitlom again, but this time with an appointment for Rikka (made at 2 hours notice, and she had to get there from 33 or wherever else she was). The GFE was so nice from Rikka that I wanted more. Chose the 1/2 and half option again, and it was up to the shower room. However, no pretense of massage this time! Having been chosen a 2nd time, she seems to understand that I want a bit more personal attention, and I get it. Back from the shower, we're both naked, and she's up on top of me in a flash, with only a bit of lotion between us. We have "outercourse", in which she basically uses her undercarriage and hands to get me off (with condom, at my request). My impression is that intercourse would have been possible, but I didn't ask. Ai came in at 3/4 time, but I was past the point of caring. Already in heaven. Had to ask both of them to quiet down and just lay down with me for a snuggle. They were all too happy to do it, with the usual "you happy I happy". 1780 baht, I tipped 500 to Ai, 1000 to Rikka (sorry guys, but to me, tipping is just a feel good thing, and I felt pretty good). I also tipped Mamasan 300 baht for the appointment at short notice, and I bought a big box of chocolates for all the girls to share (will they eat them or will they worry about getting fat. Not sure). I bought a small box for Rikka too. They all seemed genuinely touched by this small kindness.
Seventh outing: Nattaree. Aha. Finally a body-slide place. Actually, there seem to be two entrances to this place. The one on the left and the one on the right. The one on the left doesn't do body slide, but the one on the right does. I chose from the fish bowl with my eyes again, without consulting my brain. Mistake. Nutt was a stunner, but (it turns out) only doing it to support her child (husband died, I was told). Oh well. Into the bath, and OOOOH. Bloody freezing. It turns out the hot water heater wasn't working. Oh well, we do the best we can, but it was not fun having body slide while freezing cold from the bath! Uninspired hand, blow, and sex. 2000 Baht, tipped 500.
Eighth outing: Nattaree. Drawn back by the thought of a part timer. They're a lot younger than the fish bowl girls. I'd say 19. 22 rather than 24. 30+. Will this mean they have great bodies and lots of energy but no knowledge of what to do with a man's body? Only one way to find out, and how bad could it be, right? I turn up shortly after 1pm. Only 1 girl in the bowl (a fattie), and only one part timer. Clearly I've made a timing mistake. I decide to punt up to Poseidon and take a look at their 3rd floor. Phew, it's hot out. I'm sweating by the time I get there at 1:30PM. Still, the situation is as bad here. 2 in the bowl, and none (! ) in the 3rd floor. I sit for about 15 minutes drinking my drink, waiting for someone to arrive, but they don't. After a short trip to the men's room (there 's no ladies room), I decide to punt back down to Nattaree. I arrive there hot and sweaty, but it's now 2pm. Same girl still in the bowl, still all alone. But. Yahoo! There are now a couple dozen part timers. These young girls all look pretty, but I'm a little smarter than I used to be. I take a bit of time, and choose based on a combination of looks, smile, eye contact, and general "I'm interested in you" coming from the girl. Of the 25+ girls there, only about 5 meet the criteria. Papa comes to the rescue to help me choose. I say "how about that one", and he gives me his judgment. Finally, I choose a girl called "Wen", who seems genuinely pleased. I tip Papa 300 baht, which hopefully he'll remember next time. Into the room, and this girl is the first one I've had who just dives right in with the kissing and fondling. Even before the drink lady has been in. Enerjetic. Yes, I would say so. I'm smiling all over and standing at attention in moments. "You have chosen wisely my son", I think to myself.
Into the bath, and WTF. It's freezing cold again! Yes, I remember from last time, but I thought it was just that one room, or if not, then certainly just that one day. Well, apparently not. Still, being who I am, I have a giggle about it, and make some remark that it's a good thing the girl is so hot since the bath is cold. To be honest, she's a lot more freezing than me. No fat at that age! After getting clean (and cold), I decide to run this session rather than letting her run it as I have more or less done previously. Onto the bed.come and lay down with me and let's get warm, I ask. Why? I genuinely enjoy the snuggling as I've said previously, and I know I'm not going to be using all my time anyway (based on prior experience). She seems to love it, and I do to. Virtually no English in this girl, so I can have a nice conversation with myself, making all sorts of jokes about the situation, and she just smiles. For you, this might be a complete waste of time, but I loved it, and I'm a customer too. In fact, I think I'd love a LT experience sometime, but not on this trip, since I'm with my wife and daughter, and there's only so much lattitude I can expect from my wife! After a while of this, she expertly (at least by my standards) gives me what I would call a semi-CBJ.- bareback except for the tip, and condom going on at the last minute. Very nice, with lots of balls and ass play too. Did I mention this girl has a very nice, tight body with a great ass, which I play with a lot (not inside). She's concerned that my boobs are bigger than hers, but I tell her not to worry about that. I'm certainly not bothered about it. I preferred hers over mine. She would happily have put herself into it for the whole time, but once again, a good man knows what he wants, and I had had enough after about 75 minutes. She looked concerned, but I reassured her that all was well, and that we should just cuddle for a while. Cost 2600 baht. I tipped 1000.
My indoctrination into the dark side is far from complete, but what a fantastic time I had. I hope whoever is reading this can put some of this information to use, and have a great time in BKK. TO end off, I'll add this:
There's sex, and then there's having a good time. From the very start, I knew I wanted to have a good time, and try some sex too. I got that, by and large. But if I had been focused on just how good the sex was, only half of my outings would count as good ones.
These girls are human beings. If you can make one laugh or feel good. Please do. I did, and it brought me a lot of pleasure to do so. A little kindness goes a long way. Almost right from the beginning, I decided to do a bit of good for each girl, even if it was just making them laugh. There's great therapy in that.
As a customer, I bore ultimate responsibility for getting what I wanted. In those cases where I didn't, I was still able to have a good time, but I voted with my feet (ie: didn't come back to same girl or place).
I also had my limits as to what I wanted to do or what I wanted the girl to do. In my case, this was really a health issue. If there were no STD's, I'd be in there like a shot with DATY, bum licking, and bareback everything. But for me, that's not a reality. My limits evolved during the trip as I became more knowledgable. I decided I would not allow the girl's juices (of any kind) inside my body. That meant no DATY, covered sex/BJ, and so on. All the girls were fine with my limits. Some would clearly have gone outside those limits if I wanted them to. But my health is up to me, and I hope I've chosen wisely.
In the West, we think of hookers as being part of a "meat market", and that's true. However, these girls all had good self esteem, all seemed well in control of every situation (well, except for making the water hot at Nattaree), and I never felt I was putting them in a dishonorable or repulsive situation. I've never tried a hooker in the West. Perhaps it is the same. But here, these are real people doing a job, some better than others, some liking it more than others. But it's job for them, and they are professionals. We are (or at least I am) the amateur, the one out on a limb.
I just gotta endorse he "cuddle factor". Having a young, beautiful, willing girl (or two) cuddled up before or after sex, it has to be one of the best feelings in the world. Hopefully people won't get too caught up in just coming to orgasm. At least for me, there's a lot more to it than that. Even scampering around at Akane from the slightly grotty rooms to the slightly grotty shower can be fun. If accompanied by the right girl (s).
Impressions: I enjoyed Akane, particularly Rikka, Ai, and Shizuka. I didn't like Annie's. I really liked the part timer (Wen) at Nattaree. Poseidon had the best rooms. Annie's had the worst rooms. Akane's were "ok", but the girls made up for it. Eye contact, expressed interest, and smile, are much more important than how the girl looks, but if careful about timing and choosing, you can have both!
I will do my best to answer questions, if anyone has any.
Gherkin
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Meaty,
He mentions "hotties" in bars (e.g. Nana Plaza Soi Cowboy I presume) and you switch to Beer Garten and "On the street".
Its just not the same thing.
No offence Mick, but he did mention the Beer Garten and 'On the street' scene by referring to FL's...
...the freelancer scene which is almost always 1, 500THB for a short time or 1, 000THB if they are keen to make some money..
I totally agree that a looker is different to a non-looker, not sure i'd agree that all lookers are only available through a bar at the higher prices mentioned though. It's all personal persepctive really, eye of the beerholder and all that. As i said before anythings possible and there is a huge amount of YMMV.
Peace
Meaty and L A Guy
I would disagree completely, the clean looking, smell nice thing is a myth, it is about the money and do not fool yourself otherwise. I am 37 years old, run 8kms everyday at Lumpini and whilst not hansum I am ok looking and normally always go to the bars well dressed. I do absolutely agree though that it is an issue of timing, if you are in the right place at the right time (for whatever unexplained reason) you can get it cheaper than normal. Guarenteed it has nothing to do with your look (although of course they will give you that impression, they are consumate professionals! ). Of course if you know the girls very well and are a regular then things can be different, but again will depend on timing and circumstances.
L A Guy, you are exactly validating my point. No good looking Rainbow girls go to the Nana Car Park, only the uglier older and more desperate ones. I will agree though that it is very possible to get short time for 1, 000THB at some places but you run the chance of poor performance if you haggle too low.
Getting girls through the mamasan is most often the best way, they will almost always negotiate a discount with the girls and will get whatever girl you want as long as you treat the mamasan well. It takes some investment of money but if you are serious about mongering in go go bars then you MUST befriend the mamasan's, you will save yourself a lot of hassle and disapointment.
Jimmy Red Cab
11-22-07, 14:26
Even more ridiculous is the stories you read where guys say they were so good in bed that the girl refused payment. This is absolute nonsense.
There are a lot of dreamers on internet forums, I suppose they are harmless though.
Member #4351
11-22-07, 15:57
Juan Depussy,
Not name dropping. I will be in Buenos Aires next week and I will probably have dinner with Jackson as I usually do. Every time an average or sub-average post is recommended for distinctive status, someone makes the same comment. It will be interesting to know if what I surmise is correct or not.
Arrived in Bangkok today. After an early evening session I went for a beer first at Soi Cowboy, then at Patpong. Being exhausted from my flight and the session, I did not take anyone from either place. However, from just watching I found the quality much, much higher at Patpong than at Cowboy. Now I noticed that everyone in this forum is always writing about Nana or Soi Cowboy, no one ever talks about Patpong. Is there a reason for this? Something wrong with Patpong?
Ira Johnson
11-22-07, 17:39
Juan Depussy,
Not name dropping. I will be in Buenos Aires next week and I will probably have dinner with Jackson as I usually do. Every time an average or sub-average post is recommended for distinctive status, someone makes the same comment. It will be interesting to know if what I surmise is correct or not.OK, I see. Let us know if it is correct, because the theory does make sense.
Sorry about the name-dropping comment - I had no doubt you are friends with Jackson, but I suppose because of the mood I was in at the time I felt it was an unnecessary addition to the comment.
Again, thanks for the clarification.
My last trip to BKK (October 2007) was an amazing experience, and a lot of it wouldn't have happened without information learned from this and other boards. In the spirit of giving something back, here's some info about my last trip, from a grateful newbie.
...
Gherkin,
Welcome to the forum, and thank you for your comprehensive first report about your trip to BKK. Excellent!
I really hope to read more from you in the future.
BTW: Did you never try Akane Soi 33?
Giotto
Gherkin
Great report, and interesting to follow your learning curve! I guess we have all been through the same thing.
I fully agree with your comments about the importance of having fun with the girls, and not just going through the mechanical bit. It's what makes BKK girls special. A lot of potentially bad experiences can be improved with a smile and a good attitude. I sometimes take a little gift as well - like you say, it is nice to be nice.
I am more relaxed about possible STDs than you, but I guess it might be different if my wife was waiting for me back at the hotel (how did you manage that?). Also I am quite happy to walk away if no-one takes my fancy. As a result I have had a few great experiences at Annie's, and walked away quite a few times. Not sure I would want time with a 43-year old lady, although I accept they are often more talented than younger girls.
My last trip to BKK (October 2007) was an amazing experience, and a lot of it wouldn't have happened without information learned from this and other boards. In the spirit of giving something back,
My indoctrination into the dark side is far from complete, but what a fantastic time I had. I hope whoever is reading this can put some of this information to use, and have a great time in BKK. TO end off, I'll add this:
There's sex, and then there's having a good time. From the very start, I knew I wanted to have a good time, and try some sex too. I got that, by and large. But if I had been focused on just how good the sex was, only half of my outings would count as good ones.
These girls are human beings. If you can make one laugh or feel good. Please do. I did, and it brought me a lot of pleasure to do so. A little kindness goes a long way. Almost right from the beginning, I decided to do a bit of good for each girl, even if it was just making them laugh. There's great therapy in that.
As a customer, I bore ultimate responsibility for getting what I wanted. In those cases where I didn't, I was still able to have a good time, but I voted with my feet (ie: didn't come back to same girl or place).
I also had my limits as to what I wanted to do or what I wanted the girl to do. In my case, this was really a health issue. If there were no STD's, I'd be in there like a shot with DATY, bum licking, and bareback everything. But for me, that's not a reality. My limits evolved during the trip as I became more knowledgable. I decided I would not allow the girl's juices (of any kind) inside my body. That meant no DATY, covered sex/BJ, and so on. All the girls were fine with my limits. Some would clearly have gone outside those limits if I wanted them to. But my health is up to me, and I hope I've chosen wisely.
In the West, we think of hookers as being part of a "meat market", and that's true. However, these girls all had good self esteem, all seemed well in control of every situation (well, except for making the water hot at Nattaree), and I never felt I was putting them in a dishonorable or repulsive situation. I've never tried a hooker in the West. Perhaps it is the same. But here, these are real people doing a job, some better than others, some liking it more than others. But it's job for them, and they are professionals. We are (or at least I am) the amateur, the one out on a limb.
I just gotta endorse he "cuddle factor". Having a young, beautiful, willing girl (or two) cuddled up before or after sex, it has to be one of the best feelings in the world. Hopefully people won't get too caught up in just coming to orgasm. At least for me, there's a lot more to it than that. Even scampering around at Akane from the slightly grotty rooms to the slightly grotty shower can be fun. If accompanied by the right girl (s).
Impressions: I enjoyed Akane, particularly Rikka, Ai, and Shizuka. I didn't like Annie's. I really liked the part timer (Wen) at Nattaree. Poseidon had the best rooms. Annie's had the worst rooms. Akane's were "ok", but the girls made up for it. Eye contact, expressed interest, and smile, are much more important than how the girl looks, but if careful about timing and choosing, you can have both!
I will do my best to answer questions, if anyone has any.
Gherkin
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Gherkin,
BTW: Did you never try Akane Soi 33?
GiottoNot yet. Chitlom kept me happy this time around. However, on the next trip I would perhaps venture out there.
Now I just have to figure out whether anything similar can be found in N. America (never mind the price difference). From reading the forums, my gut feel is that while services are available, they will not compare well against my BKK experiences. I'd love to learn I'm wrong.
Gherkin
Gherkin
I am more relaxed about possible STDs than you, but I guess it might be different if my wife was waiting for me back at the hotel (how did you manage that?). Also I am quite happy to walk away if no-one takes my fancy. As a result I have had a few great experiences at Annie's, and walked away quite a few times. Not sure I would want time with a 43-year old lady, although I accept they are often more talented than younger girls.Fortunately, Bangkok is a great shopping city, and my wife and I both hate it when we shop together (married guys - you all know what I mean, right?). This provides the perfect way for me to get away for a "traditional Thai massage", or so she thinks.
I was initially worried about coming back smelling all clean and bubble bathy. However, I've found that while I do smell a bit like that after a session, a quick walk through Bangkok's heat and pollution gets me nice and sweaty and grimy again, which provides a good cover.
However, there is something surreal about going off and bonking a couple of early-20-something girls, then coming home to the family. I certainly feel like I'm getting away with something. It all seems harmless enough to me, but I know my wife would disagree strongly if she knew, and would likely go for the scissors ;) But although I love my wife very much, and cannot imagine having another woman in my life emotionally, this romping through the massage parlors has been a personal adventure, and one I've enjoyed a lot. I don't feel guilty, so currently there's gain for me and the MPs and girls, and I don't seem to be creating any pain for anyone.
BTW: sometimes I take the kids and it's my wife's turn to go off for the day. Perhaps she gets herself into all sorts of trouble, but its not the same for women so I doubt it. Not sure I'd really mind all that much if she did, so long as she didn't bring it home.
I'm rambling on now, so perhaps its time to stop typing.
Gherkin
...These girls are human beings. If you can make one laugh or feel good. Please do. I did, and it brought me a lot of pleasure to do so. A little kindness goes a long way. Almost right from the beginning, I decided to do a bit of good for each girl, even if it was just making them laugh. There's great therapy in that...It is even some therapy to me to read such a great report with so many "That Asshole"s "Opebo"s and "Cheap Meat"s around.
Pahllus Maximus
11-23-07, 06:50
Retired Army pointed out: "I was first in Thailand in 1972 and then a LT was 100 baht at an exchange rate of 25 to $1 US".
Well, at today's prices it's about 2000, so twenty fold increase over 25 years, or roughly 13% increase per annum compounded, not unlike housing costs ! The proper test is the ratio between the gross adult male wage and a LT - I was not born in 1972 so I don't know what the wages were.
In November 2007 the exchange rate is 31 baht to 1 USD. So assuming wages of $US1k per week, at today's rate, that equates to $US 64.50 or 6% of a weeks wages. Has this gone up or down ?
It's complicated because Bush has destroyed the US currency (and a lot of other things) that has lost a quarter of its value in the last three years. Bush has increased the cost of Bush ! Many girls are making seriously good money by Thai standards, more than doctors and professionals. The uglier ones less so.
The only suggestion is have a longer term g/f (for a few days) to lower the cost per blow job/screw - if they know you it can be cheaper. The girls I know are happy i want to be sucked and am done in 30 minutes = 400B, not chat, leave the bar, zip and suck. I have an arrangement that I get picked up a limo entering and leaving LOS, and also have a stash of chardonnay or campari and ice waiting, and girl known for her oral skills. It's a lovely and relaxing routine, and they are very happy for 1K allowing for waiting around time and transit one way without me.
What is needed is Nana Airlines, where the fun starts when the plane leaves the USA. The flight attendants would be very available and it would have short time cabins. Nice Thai food, a nice party and ban all fat white american cow-sow women from the plane.
Ideas ?
Just another compliment on Gherkin's great report. I am truly inspired to do some massage action on my next trip. I've always been more of a "take-out" rather than "eat-in" guy (don't have to worry about a wife back at the hotel), but you've surely whetted my appetite.
I would also like to second Vino71's request for more info/reports on Patpong. It's been a couple of years since my last trip to LOS but I'll be back in April. I've been reading on this board and others about the sad state of NEP. I always liked the place, right down to the sticky beer and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) soaked floors, but it sounds like it's becoming less and less of a happy hunting ground. But it sounds like maybe it's time to hop the BTS down to Silom.
...I was not born in 1972 so I don't know what the wages were.
Higher in real terms - standard of living - than in 2007, I can assure you, PM. The entire period since '72 has been a monumental disaster for American workers.
It is even some therapy to me to read such a great report with so many "That Asshole"s "Opebo"s and "Cheap Meat"s around.
Dear Tiger, I think that we cheap charlies get an unfair rap about 'mistreating' the girls. Nothing about driving a hard bargain or maintaining a respectful distance suggests a miserable time for the girls. Personally I believe there are many girls who prefer our businesslike approach.
In fact, the chap who spends his 30-60 minutes vigorously prodding the girl for 500 baht and then mercifully leaves is the ideal customer: he does not impose himself on her like some kind of preposterous fake boyfriend for 16 or so hours, replete with creepy cuddling, awful conversation, drunkenness etc., and he leaves her time for two or three more short-times, so her net earnings for the day are higher without all the awful acting long-time requires.
Retired Army
11-23-07, 21:02
Arrived in Bangkok today. After an early evening session I went for a beer first at Soi Cowboy, then at Patpong. Being exhausted from my flight and the session, I did not take anyone from either place. However, from just watching I found the quality much, much higher at Patpong than at Cowboy. Now I noticed that everyone in this forum is always writing about Nana or Soi Cowboy, no one ever talks about Patpong. Is there a reason for this? Something wrong with Patpong?
The reason we don't discuss Patpong is because it's for tourists who don't know any better than to go there on their first night in BKK. Full of rip-off joints, touts, and everything is over-priced. A mear shadow of its self of its heyday during the Vietnam way and now mostly a night market for knock off goods.
Radio City Music Hall is the one exception, but it's for the Elvis and Tom Jones impersonators not to pick up girls. Although it can be done. Star of Light is ok if you like the BJ bars (which I don't). Other than these places I don't know of any other reason to go to Patpong.
Triplehans
11-23-07, 21:19
I will be going to Bangkok for the first time in early January. I have heard much about clubs, where girls perform various interesting shows, such as shoting ping-pong balls out of their vaginas. Also interested in BDSM/female bondage live shows. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
Arrived yesterday night from US . Journey was little long and hectic. Arrived in Bkk , exchanged money at the airport.Taxi touts were quoting 700 Bht . remembered Duni's great post <link></link>
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While negotiating taxi inside the airport an old guy came acting to find me a cab. Pulled out a paper asked my name, hotel, wrote down without saying anything. I tought for taxi purpose but turned out another scammer tourist guide trying catch me. He going to call my hotel.
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DON'T GIVE OUT YOUR ACTUAL NAME and HOTEL without knowing the actual purpose. I am sure he is going to call sometimes today and tomorrow asking to take guide. I ask the hotel people to ignore his call.
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When outside avoiding the touts who were asking for 700 bht. Stood in the metered taxi line. Ride was nice only the cab driver got confused about the direction, when in sio 5 and gave a tour of soi 5, 7, 3 etc. Finally on my talk he came back to sukhumvit and I showed him the hotel. May be it was international on his part trying to take me for a sucker ride.
Anyway to total expense. 235 (meter)+50 (service charge) +65 (toll)= 350. Could be easily done for less than 300 without the direction loss.
Went for walk found some, Alex club not many looker at 4:00 am. Asked Coke. Asked the price, she pointed 1 finger. I tough WTF it can't be 1 bht, must be 10 bht. I puled out 20 bht bill and handed her and she looked at me well dressed gentleman and cracked up. Said. 100 bht. So I paid. My funny game is already working; ) NOT MANY looker. Most of <5.
Walked outside lots of ladies asking "ready? ", I know what they meant; ) Since tired, body aching and last but not the lease little johnny sleeping. Don't want to bring strange little beauties at home and scare him and mess his sleep. He get little cranky when he is sleep deprived.
Anyway going to sleep now.
Tommorows plan is some good thai massage to ease of the lower back pain, and then will start looking around.
Any senior/s wanted to show me around the spot for some friendly advise and beer (which is on me).
BTW walking in Navy blue blazer, printed T-shirt, designer jeans, cowboy boots ain't working. I got the vide that its too much dresses on the street not many approached. Came of the blazer then lots of EC and approach.
Once again thanks for the awesome board with great infos.
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M P Lurker
11-24-07, 06:29
I will be going to Bangkok for the first time in early January. I have heard much about clubs, where girls perform various interesting shows, such as shoting ping-pong balls out of their vaginas. Also interested in BDSM/female bondage live shows. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
For "ugly" shows like smoking pussy, pussy firing darts to pop balloons, shooting banana etc. go to "Long Gun" in "Soi Cowboy" near Sukhumwit road (all Taxis will know where it is) with added bonus of full nude dancing, and some choreographed dance shows.
For really hot erotic shows try "Suzie Wong" just a few doors down., e.g. lesbian show, oil show etc. body painting and some cherogrphed shows.
Get there early to get a seat right at the dance table, e.g. 9.30 for shows that will start probably at 10PM.
Some people like to look up girls skirt with no knickers at Baccarat (spelling?)
and some hot girls at "Doll's House" and "Shark".
I don't know where to go for ping pong shooting but sounds real boring to me.
Probably Pat Pong area. But maybe these can be interesting the 1st time.
M P Lurker
11-24-07, 06:39
Arrived in Bangkok today. After an early evening session I went for a beer first at Soi Cowboy, then at Patpong. Being exhausted from my flight and the session, I did not take anyone from either place. However, from just watching I found the quality much, much higher at Patpong than at Cowboy. Now I noticed that everyone in this forum is always writing about Nana or Soi Cowboy, no one ever talks about Patpong. Is there a reason for this? Something wrong with Patpong?
Were you more drunk at Pat Pong? Were you looking at the lady boys?
Just kidding!
Can you be more specific about which bars you visited and in what way Pat Pong had better quality?
It is known that some downstairs gogo bars in Pat pong have some very pretty girls but they are usually very costly and do not provide very good service in my expereince (from a long time back).
I went to Queens Castle III (upstairs) with some girls fully nude a few months back and found only one girl with a good enough figure to interest me. But the best bars in Soi Cowboy have several really good looking girls.
Us old timers assume that Pat Pong is way past its prime.
But we could be wrong. So please tell us where to find the pretty girls.
Its a shame you didn't actually try one as proof of the pudding is in the eating.
M P Lurker
11-24-07, 06:51
In fact, the chap who spends his 30-60 minutes vigorously prodding the girl for 500 baht and then mercifully leaves is the ideal customer
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Mercifully leaves is right. This describes a really irritating customer.
Was he so dumb he couldn't understand when the girl said "go wank yourself".
Girls that are good enough to get several short times per night do not need to accept 500 Baht (only the desperate ugly ones do). I have seem bar girls getting 1K tips from customers just for a nice dance performance, so don't bother to show up to Long Gun.
Even SOL girls won't fuck for 500 Baht (< than US$20), so why did you go there?
M P Lurker
11-24-07, 06:58
There are a lot of dreamers on internet forums, I suppose they are harmless though.
Occassionally guys do get a freebie, but it seems delusional to suppose that "being good in bed" was the reason.
Could be the girl is trying to hook a boyfriend. Many girls are truelly looking for a "knight in shining armour" to take them away from it all.
Giottos lodge has high pretty girl turn-over because many have found a boyfriend at the Lodge an then left their employment at the Sports Bar.
Not sure I would want time with a 43-year old lady, although I accept they are often more talented than younger girls.
The 43 yr old Olive is actually pretty famous at Annie's and on this board. There are several of us here that have given her very good reviews. I don't normally go for 40 yr olds but she is special.
Great report, Gherkin. Thanks for posting.
M P Lurker
11-24-07, 07:08
No offence Mick, but he did mention the Beer Garten and 'On the street' scene by referring to FL's...
Peace
O.K. I see he did mention FL's as an aside. You confused me by quoting the gogo bar part of his message first up, which made me think you were replying to that.
Even SOL girls won't fuck for 500 baht (< than US$20), so why did you go there?
I went there to get a BJ, for I think 700 baht, whatever is the price now - I forget. To also have intercourse was only an additional 300 baht. Not cheap but a bargain by Bangkok standards. The 500 baht I mentioned in my post referred to Pattaya prices - sorry for the confusion.
While 1,000 should be the line to hold for frugal mongers in the tourist traps of Bangkok, 500 is possible even there particularly in off-hours, and of course in Chinatown and other places 300 is possible. On Sukhumvit I pretty much accept that I won't be able to get under 1,000 unless it is nine AM or some such horrible time, so I strive to bargain for bareback and anal within that price.
You mentioned a simpleton tipping 1,000 baht for a good lap-dance - I once saw that happen in a go-go in Pattaya; I felt physically ill when I saw it and depressed the rest of the night.
Retired Army
11-24-07, 11:08
I will be going to Bangkok for the first time in early January. I have heard much about clubs, where girls perform various interesting shows, such as shoting ping-pong balls out of their vaginas. Also interested in BDSM/female bondage live shows. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
There is a place in Patpong that offers what you seek. I forget the name but perhaps one of the other members of the forum can supply the name of the venue. I went once and that was one time too many. Sure they had the old hammer that no one wants to shag anymore who has denigrated to live performances on stage in Patpong. She will throw ping-pong balls from her snatch using her hips, not shoot as you imagine. She will also smoke a cigarette, throw darts and the obligatory banana show, which some drunk (usually from Australia or the UK) will feel obliged to eat. If this sounds like what you are looking for then by all means go. But beware; this place is a known rip-off joint. They charge a ridiculous cover charge, outrageous drink prices and will pad your bill like crazy. Enjoy…
As for the BDSM/bongage show some other member is going to have to supply that information.
Retired Army
11-24-07, 11:12
When outside avoiding the touts who were asking for 700 bht. Stood in the metered taxi line. Ride was nice only the cab driver got confused about the direction, when in sio 5 and gave a tour of soi 5, 7, 3 etc. Finally on my talk he came back to sukhumvit and I showed him the hotel. May be it was international on his part trying to take me for a sucker ride.
Perhaps not. Rice picking season is over. He was probably a rice farmer from Korat trying to earn a few baht until planting time.
Fortunately, Bangkok is a great shopping city, and my wife and I both hate it when we shop together (married guys. You all know what I mean, right? ). This provides the perfect way for me to get away for a "traditional Thai massage", or so she thinks. GherkinYou did the shopping trick the right way, the way I like to, it all depends on how your wife can handle your credit card. I have had the luck to travel always alone for business in Asia in the past but since a few years I do longer projects here and my wife likes to join me most of the time to LOS (can’t blame here, she now loves LOS and that’s my fold) so I needed some new tricks in my book to continue mongering when she travels with me.
-When you travel with your wife the first rule is, don’t stay away late night on your own, they all associate night life with sex and girls or having a affair, even more that you think, monger only in day time, and a by yourself organised (fake) business dinner is very helpful sometimes but not to often, just see that you get a alcohol smell when joining here at your room that evening.
-Whenever I have a meeting outside BK I leave early morning and try to be back in BK in the afternoon and I will have plenty of spare time to visit the mass. Parlours in a relax way and just like as you say, I walk the last mile to the hotel to get the Bangkok smell on my body and don’t look to fresh.
- Create a kind of habit like this: wherever we are around the world I go often (daily) for a massage and not only when in LOS or China, preferable on the street and not the hotel, so it’s not strange if I go out for a mass. Here on a moment when she wants to stay at the pool, I am telling here that I want to explore a new day Spa for us (giving maybe a few names), that’s fine for here, I actually go then to my favourite places like Aviva or at Soi 22 or 33. The day after I go then to the day Spa that I told here I have had explored the day before but which I actually did not visit at all.
- Stay in a hotel on Sukumvit close to your mongering area or the BTS to shorten your walking time, if you are away for 2 hours, to here it looks always like it’s half a day.
- She sometimes like to go on here own to here favourite day Spa around the corner and I go then later that day but off course not to the same one but I repeat the previous exploring trick.
- When having a day off, I go in the morning together with here (like it should be) to our regular Spa and she loves it, this make me a nice guy (think so) and it gives me the possibility to go back in the afternoon to a Korean or Japanese men only spa and that’s no problem for here, She knows that kind of Spa’s where I like to hang out, all, so called, equipped with hot and cold tub where all men walking around naked, getting a back scrub and massage by very old women or old men as she knows from staying in some other Asian hotels before, this gives me a few hours to go to Sazanka or Akane or soapy etc. It all depends on how you sell it and how she buy’s it (ok till now).
- I take here out some evenings to Soi Coboy or Nana so that she also knows (all)about BK night life and what is going on in the (one and only) bad part from BK and she knows I am never there at night, she is a pretty good looking lady and the negative part here is that she is always attracted by the nice girls and sometimes LB’s for a chat (good cover for me)
I have just been staying in BK for several weeks (like a fish in clear water without sharks LOL), I will be back in January I am sure that she will join me for a additional holiday and believe I will need desperately my " magic trick book " again,
Hope this as been helpful.
John Euro
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One Tree Hill
11-25-07, 09:42
As for the BDSM/bongage show some other member is going to have to supply that information.
There is a club on Patpong II called Barbar. They are that type of club for fetishes etc. Never been inside, but have heard of it.
Here is a link:
http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/
I plan to leave San Francisco for BKK on Jan 11. Even armed with close readings of many posts and re-examination of my past trips to BKK over the last few years, I still cannot answer the question: Is it advantage to go alone or pairing up with some other monger?
We all can see the pros and cons of the situation. I also can see that it strongly depends on the pair that is joining up. My past experience has been mainly alone and I have had "time of my life." I am very flexible and have tried out things and I have enjoyed almost all of those undertakings. I have posted these adventures in WSG. Still, I think there is a lot to learn from each other and joining up can go a long way in smoothing out the anxiety associated with "cast and wait; negotiations etc. etc."
Well, I plan to stay at the Majestic Suites during my entire visit (Jan. 11 - 19)and I will look for any joiners in front of the hotel lobby at noon on the following days: Jan. 12, 14, and 16. Any of those interested, please show up. You cannot miss me. I am originally from India and look Indian.
Cheers,
Sidney
You did the shopping trick the right way, the way I like to, it all depends on how your wife can handle your credit card. Hmm. Factoring in the additional cost of wife's shopping sessions makes BKK the most expensive places for P4P in the world (at least for me) ;) Still, going with family beats not going at all.
Gherkin
Hey guys! I'm heading accross to Bangkok for a few days tommorrow.. What's the latest on "showing". Are the girls dancing in the nude in Bangkok these days? And where is it happening most? Cowboy? Nana? Patpong?
Would love to get the experts' knowledge.... Thanks
M P Lurker
11-26-07, 07:54
Hey guys! I'm heading accross to Bangkok for a few days tommorrow.. What's the latest on "showing". Are the girls dancing in the nude in Bangkok these days? And where is it happening most? Cowboy? Nana? Patpong?
Would love to get the experts' knowledge.... Thanks
Yes Nude in "Long Gun" at Soi Cowboy, and even plenty of shaved pussy at "Suzie Wong" nearby. Some other bars also.
One Tree Hill
11-26-07, 07:56
Hey guys! I'm heading accross to Bangkok for a few days tommorrow.. What's the latest on "showing". Are the girls dancing in the nude in Bangkok these days? And where is it happening most? Cowboy? Nana? Patpong?
Would love to get the experts' knowledge.... Thanks
Mostly Cowboy... depends on the cops that day/night.
Nana does not have nude, unless I am missing something. Same for Patpong.
M P Lurker
11-26-07, 11:18
Mostly Cowboy... depends on the cops that day/night.
Nana does not have nude, unless I am missing something. Same for Patpong.
Some Pat Pong bars have. I think Queens Castle 2 and QC3 (ex Pussy Galore) upstairs. But Soi Cowboy is a better place to go! Haven't noticed too much police stoppage.
Anyway to total expense. 235 (meter)+50 (service charge) +65 (toll)= 350. Could be easily done for less than 300 without the direction loss.Sorry 300 baht is a good price to travel from airport to Sukhumvit, my best is 191 baht fare plus airport charge and toll way. One taxi go me to Soi 4 for 197 baht that included 3 baht on the meter while waiting for him to put gas in the car, and he managed to get to soi 4 without going through the toll ways. So I saved 65 baht on the toll way.
Hmm. Factoring in the additional cost of wife's shopping sessions makes BKK the most expensive place, Still, going with family beats not going at all.
GherkinThat’S why I was saying, " it all depends on how she handles your credit card " mine is pretty ok with that, she knows the fashion business and the pricing tag very well, Fashion stuff is mostly more expensive in BK than in European city’s, the advantage for my credit card is that my wife as a nice size breast and most of the stuff there don’t fit here even when it’s a European brand, but even without buying at all they all love to look around, touching all the cloths and stuff and how longer she spends here time there in Paragon or Emporium how more I love it just to get my own hands free for half a day.
A good round of massage in BK and banging a great looking girl can cost you all in 2000 till 2500 Thb, that’s only 50 Euro for a top quality treatment, at most parlours in Europe you pay minimum the double or triple for the most lousy 45 min. So called massage, with only a worthless quick jerk off, for FS they ask another 60€ till 100€ more (no way), must be the same or even more in the US, so let here spend a bit money, after all we still better off in BK
John Euro
Is Spice Disco under the Ambassador Hotel still running? It brings me good memories, and next January I'm back off to BKK again.
Any report would be appreciated, especially for after 2 A. M. venues.
Thanks
Member #4147
11-26-07, 23:22
Only til @6. Makes taking the skytrain home possible.
Is Spice Disco under the Ambassador Hotel still running? It brings me good memories, and next January I'm back off to BKK again.
Any report would be appreciated, especially for after 2 A. M. venues.
Thanks
...Also interested in BDSM/female bondage live shows. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
One Tree Hill mentioned Bar Bar, and his is right. This place is a full on S&M bar, with many 'themed' private rooms upstairs. It's 900 Baht entry which gets you one drink, drink prices are much higher than other bars, but i forget exactly how much.
On entering, you will be shown to a couch, the bar is very dark and kitted out with cages and crosses and what not. When i went there 9 girls came over and split into groups of 3, there was spanking going on with a paddle, there was hot wax being dripped onto genitals, there was whipping, crawling, all of what you'd expect from S&M i'd guess. After around 10 minutes of watching the girls start trying to get you involved. i have only ever seen one other customer in this bar, its not a bar full of punters. I had a nice 'first' experience in the bar, been meaning to go back for a long time, but just haven't made it yet, like Retired Army says, theres not much to go to PAtpong for, and going all the way just for BarBar hasn't appealed so far.
There is also a similar set up i believe on soi 33, perhaps Big G (Giotto) can lend a post on that one. I have also heard there is an S&M Oil Massage venue in soi 24, but don't recall the name.
My prior "8 outing" report was of my first experience mongering of any kind, and very enjoyable. Problem is, from what I've read, starting out in Bangkok has likely ruined the rest of the world for me :) I can get to Japan, HK, and China more often than BKK, but will I have as much fun? I've truly enjoyed the massage girls in BKK (even where there was no massage involved, like Poseidon and Nataree), but can I find it elsewhere, never mind the price?
Gherkin
A good round of massage in BK and banging a great looking girl can cost you all in 2000 till 2500 Thb, that’s only 50 Euro for a top quality treatment, at most parlours in Europe you pay minimum the double or triple for the most lousy 45 min. So called massage, with only a worthless quick jerk off, for FS they ask another 60€ till 100€ more (no way), must be the same or even more in the US, so let here spend a bit money, after all we still better off in BK
John Euro
Hi,
I understand the artists bar on soi 33 have some very nice girls there available to be picked up. From what time does the action start ? Ie if I show up in the afternoon, is there talent available already ? Also, what kind of rates are those freelancers expecting ?
Thanks in advance,
Greetings,
Does anyone know whether the BJ bars require the use of condoms for oral? Also, can anyone recommend a good BJ bar and massage place? I'll be staying near Sukhumvit & Soi 2.
Thanks in advance
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I understand the artists bar on soi 33 have some very nice girls there available to be picked up. From what time does the action start ? Ie if I show up in the afternoon, is there talent available already ? Also, what kind of rates are those freelancers expecting ?
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Mandiri,
Business starts here at 7 pm, some bars are ready for customers at 6 pm.
The bars to go are still unchanged (my POV), Monet, The Office, Renoir and Livingstone's. Watch your bills carefully in Napoleon, Christies and Dali.
Bar fines are expensive in the road - everybody should be aware that this is not a cheap area like Nana or Cowboy. Early barfines are around THB 1,500.00, sometimes higher.
The girls will ask for ST/LT 3,000 / 5,000 . They will go before 11 pm for 2,000 / 4,000 . Late night the prices drop to 1,500 / 2,500 . But some girls will not go for that either. Others might even go for a lower rate, if they desparately need money.
Giotto
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There is also a similar set up i believe on soi 33, perhaps Big G (Giotto) can lend a post on that one. I have also heard there is an S&M Oil Massage venue in soi 24, but don't recall the name.Meaty,
BESTARD! The name of the bar is Desmonia, before it was The Cave. It's in Soi 33, a bit further down the road.
I have never been in there, but I know that you need to wear black clothes to get in. Show, BJ in the bar, I heard about all that, but I never went there up to now, and I never will.
Giotto
Member #3428
11-27-07, 09:20
Meaty,
BESTARD! The name of the bar is Desmonia, before it was The Cave. It's in Soi 33, a bit further down the road.
Giotto
You mean Demonia not Desmonia right???
You mean Demonia not Desmonia right???Tansak KTV,
LOL. You obviously know the place? Come on, come across with some more infos :):):) !
Giotto
Member #3428
11-27-07, 09:33
Tansak KTV,
LOL. You obviously know the place? Come on, come across with some more infos :):):) !
Giotto
When would I have time to go there? Every night after work I was at the sports bar.
I understand BarBar is supposed to be better then Demonia.
Does anyone know whether the BJ bars require the use of condoms for oral?
Condoms should most certainly NOT be required for oral sex in blow job bars, Gren, and if any girl tries to impose one you should walk. Can you imagine, a blow job with a condom on? What would be the point of purchasing something like that?
Problem is, from what I've read, starting out in Bangkok has likely ruined the rest of the world for me :) but can I find it elsewhere, never mind the price?
GherkinGood to share some idea’s on this but if BK was your first mongering trip you probably right, but I would not say it as ruined the rest completely, Thailand is the best so far when it comes to girls, looks, attitude, quantity and quality of service at least according to my years of experience in Asian country’s but in China you can find also a great service and many special treatments and not just a Bang Bang or massage parlour but pricing is higher these day’s, they all getting a bit spoiled due to the booming economy and rip-off is almost par now in some big city’s, have a look at the China forums for the typical Chinese spa’s and small places. HKG is since a long time a pure rip-off and dangerous mongering these day’s, I have been there recently and did not monger at all, many guy’s taking girls up to there room and get drugged and robbed, some get killed this on daily base. Japan is still ok but to many places in Tokyo are now run by black guys and all this as lost his Japanese charm from before, to many Eastern block girls instead op nice Japanese chicks but if you know your way around a bit or have a local friend you will still find nice places with local girls, however the price tag is the highest in the would beside Las Vegas maybe. Jakarta is still a bit like BK but not as good.
John Euro
Mandiri,
Business starts here at 7 pm, some bars are ready for customers at 6 pm.
The bars to go are still unchanged (my POV), Monet, The Office, Renoir and Livingstone's. Watch your bills carefully in Napoleon, Christies and Dali.
Bar fines are expensive in the road - everybody should be aware that this is not a cheap area like Nana or Cowboy. Early barfines are around THB 1,500.00, sometimes higher.
The girls will ask for ST/LT 3,000 / 5,000 . They will go before 11 pm for 2,000 / 4,000 . Late night the prices drop to 1,500 / 2,500 . But some girls will not go for that either. Others might even go for a lower rate, if they desparately need money.
Giotto
Thanks Giotto for the pointers. Indeed, sounds expensive.
LittleBigMan
11-28-07, 01:38
John Euro,
Haven't been to HK, nor China for a number of years but I still remember the good times. In the early 80's it was Korea and I made my last visit in 86 prior to the O-games knowing full well it wouldn't be the same after the games and that prove true. Now it's China turn with it's grownig economy and the O-games this summer one has to wonder if the prices will ever come down again?
The 43 yr old Olive is actually pretty famous at Annie's and on this board. There are several of us here that have given her very good reviews. I don't normally go for 40 yr olds but she is special.
Great report, Gherkin. Thanks for posting.I agree with you. I was with here a few years ago and she was the best. Had some e-mails but all of a sudden, she needed 100,000 Bt to save the farm. Told her " sorry". Sweet lady however.
Member #3428
11-28-07, 03:31
Thanks Giotto for the pointers. Indeed, sounds expensive.
Check it out, it can be a nice change of pace. Not as loud, smokey, and crowded as Cowboy or such. A nice place to have a drink with some nice ladies. You're not gonna see someone with a Singha Tank Top and Sandals on 33.
With the way prices have been going, 33 can be about the same as Cowboy for drinks, and you get real drinks not some waterdown tiny [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) ant drinks like at cowboy and other places. Generally you not need to buy lady drinks on 33 all the time as you will have company without it and if you do buy lady drink then she's with you for the stay for the most part and not running away to stage or others or whatever. Plus if you are with people you can actually have a conversation there if you want and the food at some places rates from decent to very good. Some of the bars have the local menus and will run out and get you food from the restaurants and such and you can eat there if you like.
More expensive, yes, worth it, up to you, but it is a nice change of pace atleast for me.
Meaty,
BESTARD! The name of the bar is Desmonia, before it was The Cave. It's in Soi 33, a bit further down the road.
I have never been in there, but I know that you need to wear black clothes to get in. Show, BJ in the bar, I heard about all that, but I never went there up to now, and I never will.
Giotto
You don't need the black clothes anymore. It is definitely an "interesting place". I had been having a pretty cool relationship with a girl that worked there named Linda (Palinda). She is a great GFE and will do just about anything you want. We used to spend weeks together and it was great. Then of course, instead of me leaving her money when I left, she started messaging me asking for 50,000 Baht. Can you believe she thought i would fall for that one? Then she asked for 25,000 baht because she stopped working at Demonia and needed money. I wanted to tell her that I had a bridge to sell, but it would be too hard to explain and would have lost all of its gusto in the translation.
She still sends me text messages asking for help, but i am not going to fall for it. I want lust not love! Anyway, if you throw the other BS out that I explained earlier, she is very pleasing and accomodating, as well as hot! I give her some credit, she waited until after about 2 years to hit me up for the monthly dough.
As for the bar, it is an S & M place. Interesting to check out once. You can often get HJ or BBBJ, sometimes from several of the girls at the same time, on the couches. For some reason they don't seem to negotiate the price until you are done, but my friend has thrown them a few baht after and they were happy.
I will be in BKK this coming Friday-Tuesday December 7-11 so let me know if anyone wants to get together.
Mostly Cowboy... depends on the cops that day/night.
Nana does not have nude, unless I am missing something. Same for Patpong.
I was in Nana a few months ago and the girls were topless. Nothing great or erotic, but I was surprised. I had seen them dance nude in Pattaya, but not in BKK. I can't remember the name of the bar in Nana, but pass the elephant in the entry ally (I kid you not), take the escalator to the 2nd floor and it was either the first or second bar on the right. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Can anyone tell me about the action at Soprano House, Pegasus, or the private clubs? I have been to Soprano House a few times and the girls are smoking! Almost model material in my book, but too short. I have never actually hit on any of them. Believe it or not we just went for the music and show which was absolutely great. Are the dancers in play? How much do they charge? Is it worth it?
Any thoughts or experiences would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Any one know what is closed and what is open in Bangkok on Wednesday, December 5, the King's Birthday?
Thanks for the assistance.
ALMOST NOTHING! I have been there twice on the King's birthday, both times by mistake. One time we asked the taxi driver where to go and he took us to this "bar" WAY off the beaten path whose windows were shaded to the outside. He rang a bell (probably collected his commission) and brought us in. My wingman and i took forever to find 2 decent looking girls. the whole scene was grimy. I felt like someone news reporter was going to pop out at any moment and say something like "did you know these girls were sold by their parents in the north in exchange for an ox?" It was really grimy. Not to say I didn't pick a girl for LT, but she wasn't very good and did not seem very happy about doing her job.
I would use the King's Birthday as a total downtime, off day.
Ok, I've picked up the street girls in Chinatown, but I've never seen anything that looked like an actual brothel. And there are Indian brothels? Please, tell me more! Are they cheap? Would they admit a white? I wonder if Indian men hold the line on sai-toongs?
Where are the indian brothels? I would like to check that out!
I have gotten a "Z" Pack without prescription many times in Thailand.
Can you get Cipro from a pharmacy in BKK or do you need a doctor's script?
Member #3428
11-28-07, 08:31
Can you get Cipro from a pharmacy in BKK or do you need a doctor's script?
No need script, many pharmacies have it, if you are in doubt I know they have it at a pharmacy by Nana. Between King Tailor's and Bully's are two pharmacies that carry just about everything under the sun. Starting at the gas station walk toward marriott, you'll pass King's Tailor and if you hit Bully's Restaraunt you've gone too far.
I will be in BK for 18 hours tomorow from 22.00 till 16.00 the other day ..
what do you guys recomend I do ? in such short time?
thanks
Check it out, it can be a nice change of pace. Not as loud, smokey, and crowded as Cowboy or such. A nice place to have a drink with some nice ladies. You're not gonna see someone with a Singha Tank Top and Sandals on 33.
With the way prices have been going, 33 can be about the same as Cowboy for drinks, and you get real drinks not some waterdown tiny [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) ant drinks like at cowboy and other places. Generally you not need to buy lady drinks on 33 all the time as you will have company without it and if you do buy lady drink then she's with you for the stay for the most part and not running away to stage or others or whatever. Plus if you are with people you can actually have a conversation there if you want and the food at some places rates from decent to very good. Some of the bars have the local menus and will run out and get you food from the restaurants and such and you can eat there if you like.
More expensive, yes, worth it, up to you, but it is a nice change of pace atleast for me.
Fair enough, Sir. Sounds interesting, I appreciate your views. Will go there sometime and report back. Thank you.
I will be in BK for 18 hours tomorow from 22.00 till 16.00 the other day ..
what do you guys recomend I do ? in such short time?
thanks
Plenty of time. If I were you. Airport -> Hotel on Suk (checked in by 23:30) -> Cowboy (by midnight). Find girl before closing -> Hotel for LT, out of bed and off to airport about 13:00.
AlLostInSpace13
11-28-07, 19:04
Stayed at Dynasty Grande on Soi 6. This place is totally girl-friendly, as long as you only bring home 1 girl at a time. The girl has to register at the frontdesk and leave her id, which equates to more protection to us mongers.
I also spent a few days in Cambodia, which I think has a long way to go in the areas of transportation, food and hotel. Cambodian girls are similar to Thai girls, perhaps a bit darker. Anyways back to the main topic.
I spent every evening at the Beer Garden on Soi 7, not because I lived on Soi 6, but I really liked how the scene is operated there. Although I did venture over to Soi Cowboy one night, but didn't stay long. At the BG you'll find non-pros. I make that statement because after doing business with me, I don't see them for at least a few days - meaning that they only come to the BG when money is needed to support the family. Of course, not true in every case, but I can always spot a non-pro.
I also visited the Nana entertainment plaza one day, but left shortly. It's a different version of Soi Cowboy.
Being a middle-aged man, I tend to go for the more mature ladies. For this trip, the ladies' ages ranged from 25 to 40 - I would take a younger lady near closing time. Fortunately during this trip, I managed to bring a girl back to hotel every night. It's not that hard, actually, at the BG there are typically 2-3 girls for every guy. Of course, some are really dogs, but nicer looking ones are not hard to come by - for my taste anyways. And true to the forum, I never paid more than 1,500baht for LT and sometimes they only ask for 1,000, which I gladly obliged.
So picked up girl at BG, then walked back to the hotel via Soi 4 and picked up some fruits or have a nice plate of spicy pad-thai (40baht) at the food stalls along the way. Then the usual activities and sleep and then shag some more in the moring. Repeat that for 8 days and I thought I was in heaven.
The 1st night was the 40 year old lady. Short and slightly chubby, but kind and full of class. 2nd night was the 25 year old Chinese-Thai mix. 3rd night I ended up at the Nana parking lot and picked up a 35 year old lady. Tall and not so pretty (she was pretty from far and it was way past 2am so I went for it anyways) and a smoker. One night was interesting. I met this pair at BG: Nam and Anne. They were both very talkative and I paid for drinks. Anyways, Nam was showing me the ropes. Apparently if you see someone you like, making eye contact is not enough, you should ask the bartender to send her a drink. This way, there is no misunderstanding. I followed her advice and was able to connect with someone I liked. Anne left with another gentleman, so I took my girl and Nam to the hardrock cafe for some live music. When I left for the hotel with my girl, Nam was asking for money!!! WTF! I was half drunk and wanted to thank her for giving me that tip, but I didn't have 500baht, so I gave her 1,000 - which I knew was too much. Anyways, back at the hotel my girl was asking for 3,000baht because she said I gave nam 1,000 for doing nothing, so she wanted more. Fcuk! Not exactly the right time to have a price disagreement. But I stuck to my guns and stood firm on 1,500 and she eventually gave in. She was a good laid - she even talked dirty to me ;-). Armed with the new knowledge, my next night was another total score. (Btw Nam was nowhere to be found!) Picked up another lady who was only 26, recently seperated from her boyfriend (which I take with a grain of salt), but she has no stretch mark, so could be true in this case. This one was totally GFE. Didn't ask for money, but I gave her the usual amount. Another night I picked up this 27 year old. Unfortunately I got paged and had to spent a few hours to attend to some business, but she waited quietly in bed. There was another tidbit with this girl. I met a friend at BG who was interested in her at first, but he had to leave early. She needed the money, so I took her back to my hotel for straight company. I didn't want to bang her because that would be disrespectful to my friend. Thank God I spent a few hours working that night, otherwise it would have more painful. In the end, I fingered her and she was bucking like a crazy horse... Sorry Hans.
I have to say that the GFE ones are most dangerous. They are absolutely addictive! I even thought about making one my mistress! But most of the girls have regular jobs and were married and have children which was why they needed to supplement their regular income.
Amazingly my performance was getting better day-by-day, I guess practice makes perfect. At the end of my trip, I was banging the girl for at least 30 minutes straight until both of us were drenched in sweet sweat. I still remember she screamed "oye oye oye..." with the beat. I think I'll come back again.
Good story, but: 1000Bht for some (apologies: fairly obvious) advice!
On my first trip, on a very hot day, I got lost a few hundred yards from my hotel, so asked a taxi driver to give me a lift back. He over-quoted 100Bht, and I was so pleased to be rescued I gave him 500Bht (still nothing like London prices). I still feel a complete mug to this day.
Stayed at Dynasty Grande on Soi 6. This place is totally girl-friendly, as long as you only bring home 1 girl at a time. The girl has to register at the frontdesk and leave her id, which equates to more protection to us mongers.
I also spent a few days in Cambodia, which I think has a long way to go in the areas of transportation, food and hotel. Cambodian girls are similar to Thai girls, perhaps a bit darker. Anyways back to the main topic.
I spent every evening at the Beer Garden on Soi 7, not because I lived on Soi 6, but I really liked how the scene is operated there. Although I did venture over to Soi Cowboy one night, but didn't stay long. At the BG you'll find non-pros. I make that statement because after doing business with me, I don't see them for at least a few days. Meaning that they only come to the BG when money is needed to support the family. Of course, not true in every case, but I can always spot a non-pro. I also visited the Nana entertainment plaza one day, but left shortly. It's a different version of Soi Cowboy.
Being a middle-aged man, I tend to go for the more mature ladies. For this trip, the ladies' ages ranged from 25 to 40. I would take a younger lady near closing time. Fortunately during this trip, I managed to bring a girl back to hotel every night. It's not that hard, actually, at the BG there are typically 2-3 girls for every guy. Of course, some are really dogs, but nicer looking ones are not hard to come by. For my taste anyways. And true to the forum, I never paid more than 1, 500baht for LT and sometimes they only ask for 1, 000, which I gladly obliged.
So picked up girl at BG, then walked back to the hotel via Soi 4 and picked up some fruits or have a nice plate of spicy pad-thai (40baht) at the food stalls along the way. Then the usual activities and sleep and then shag some more in the moring. Repeat that for 8 days and I thought I was in heaven.
The 1st night was the 40 year old lady. Short and slightly chubby, but kind and full of class. 2nd night was the 25 year old Chinese-Thai mix. 3rd night I ended up at the Nana parking lot and picked up a 35 year old lady. Tall and not so pretty (she was pretty from far and it was way past 2am so I went for it anyways) and a smoker. One night was interesting. I met this pair at BG: Nam and Anne. They were both very talkative and I paid for drinks. Anyways, Nam was showing me the ropes. Apparently if you see someone you like, making eye contact is not enough, you should ask the bartender to send her a drink. This way, there is no misunderstanding. I followed her advice and was able to connect with someone I liked. Anne left with another gentleman, so I took my girl and Nam to the hardrock cafe for some live music. When I left for the hotel with my girl, Nam was asking for money! WTF! I was half drunk and wanted to thank her for giving me that tip, but I didn't have 500baht, so I gave her 1, 000. Which I knew was too much. Anyways, back at the hotel my girl was asking for 3, 000baht because she said I gave nam 1, 000 for doing nothing, so she wanted more. Fcuk! Not exactly the right time to have a price disagreement. But I stuck to my guns and stood firm on 1, 500 and she eventually gave in. She was a good laid. She even talked dirty to me;.). Armed with the new knowledge, my next night was another total score. (Btw Nam was nowhere to be found! ) Picked up another lady who was only 26, recently seperated from her boyfriend (which I take with a grain of salt), but she has no stretch mark, so could be true in this case. This one was totally GFE. Didn't ask for money, but I gave her the usual amount. Another night I picked up this 27 year old. Unfortunately I got paged and had to spent a few hours to attend to some business, but she waited quietly in bed. There was another tidbit with this girl. I met a friend at BG who was interested in her at first, but he had to leave early. She needed the money, so I took her back to my hotel for straight company. I didn't want to bang her because that would be disrespectful to my friend. Thank God I spent a few hours working that night, otherwise it would have more painful. In the end, I fingered her and she was bucking like a crazy horse. Sorry Hans.
I have to say that the GFE ones are most dangerous. They are absolutely addictive! I even thought about making one my mistress! But most of the girls have regular jobs and were married and have children which was why they needed to supplement their regular income.
Amazingly my performance was getting better day-by-day, I guess practice makes perfect. At the end of my trip, I was banging the girl for at least 30 minutes straight until both of us were drenched in sweet sweat. I still remember she screamed "oye oye oye. " with the beat. I think I'll come back again.
John Euro,
In the early 80's it was Korea and I made my last visit in 86 prior to the O-games knowing full well it wouldn't be the same after the games and that prove true. Now it's China turn with it's grownig economy and the O-games this summer one has to wonder if the prices will ever come down again?I had similar experiences in Korea , I have been there maybe 10 times in the golden years before the Olympics with excellent P4P experiences and was there only one time after the games , the whole bar and nightlife and pricing was completely changed and the attitude from the girls was up in the wrong direction , game over and out . I have been two month ago 3 times in Shanghai and Beijing , big change against my previous visit few years before and I am a bit afraid it will go the same way as Korea after the Olympics , it started already that way in Beijing . Let’s hope for us that Thailand will never organise the games.
John Euro
Background: Middle-aged, in relationship at home, some prior experience in Germany and the UK.
Arrived in Bangkok and after some wandering in a daze decided to try a straight Thai massage recommended in Lonely Planet – after declining the profferred extras, I found the service rather perfunctory but still good value. Had not been able to get a room at Livingstone’s Lodge so went to soi 33 just to visit the bar but found it closed for a private party so visited Sazanka MP for the full monty, and was happy with the service. Next day I had to fly to another country on business, returned to BKK a week later, was met at the airport by very respectable Thai friends who I knew would insist in their polite way on seeing me safely checked-in, so to spare blushes I had booked at the Davis, to transfer to Livingstone’s next night (every time afterwards that they came to collect me, I waited for them at the Novotel Lotus next door). Finally got to go to LL Sports Bar and had a great time surrounded by four girls, buying them all drinks, at closing time I had a tortuous decision to make as I decided to limit to two! Decided on one who had faithfully been caressing me all evening on my right (who spoke some English) and another (more lively one) who I had done some great dancing with (but who spoke no English). Mamasan came over to tell me the price for LT, decided not to haggle and even paid over the odds due to lack of local currency.
Got to the room and once in bed safely sandwiched, looking forward to my two-girl all night fantasy. Initially I preferred the quieter one but before very long she was sound asleep and the lively one who had at first seemed a bit too much came into her own; we both took a lot of pleasure. Woke up with a phone going off at 6 am, the quiet one got up and left telling me the other would take care of me. Slept on till 9am when the other one got up, offered me more fun (I declined) and left with a mutually affectionate hug. Having indulged the two-girl fantasy, I don’t think I would do it again, or not LT as sleep not too easy; probably the best thing about it is it improves the odds of finding a nice compatibility.
I went off to Krabi peninsular for some beach experience at Ao Nang and Railee, the latter described as the most beautiful beach in Thailand by Lonely Planet - well I found tourist Thailand something of a washed-out experience after BKK (I mean this in general terms and I don’t mean the lack of available girls). Changed my flight to come back early so I could take a look at Pattaya, didn’t think it would be my cup of tea but had to see it as I was not expecting ever to return to Thailand. So I visited Angel Witch, threw some ping-pong balls and saw some lovely girls putting on a great show and exchanged some smiles but I found it all a bit too in your face, my smile was a bit rictus, so looked in at Tahitian Queen (even more in your face and girls more bored), then to soi 6 to Full Moon bar – very quiet. A girl came up to me on the sofa, not the most attractive girl I have ever met by some distance but very slim and petite (opposite to my normal diet at home) and affectionate, did not expect to go with her but found my body had other ideas. So we agreed a very reasonable LT rate and bar fine and we jumped on the backs of a couple of motorbikes to the Sabai Resort (good hotel btw). She left her ID at the desk and so to the room - where my body continued to take over, she was so affectionate all night, in the morning she asked me if she would see me again, I told her maybe, she knew it meant no, I felt a bit of a heel but pleased I had been straight with her.
To BKK for the last night of my trip, very happy to return to Livingstone’s (such a great hotel in its own right and all the staff just great). On impulse went for a massage at a place I was passing on soi 33/1, not intending to have any extras - the girl was amazing, so bubbly and happy and she begged me to have a doubled up oily session with another girl, which happened to be another fantasy so I agreed - they did a great service and of course my no-extras notion was short-lived. Decided to drop in at Livingstone’s sports bar before I put to bed for an early night, could not see any familiar faces from last time so decided to have one drink then leave. Then it all started to go out of control - suddenly both girls from last week materialised magically in front of me - huge hug with the lively one, she massaging my back and shoulders for a long time, then the dancing started again, wound up with the sports TV being turned off and two of us dancing on the high podium and all the girls cheering us on and giving us small bills to encourage us - what a night. We played some foursome pool with another couple and then I started to feel I was becoming part of a couple and acquiring a girlfriend, I didn’t want a girlfriend, in any case I was leaving tomorrow, and she spoke no English. So for better of worse, I told her I had to sleep, was very tired, and I wanted to leave, her friend tried to dissuade me, mamasan ditto, but those reports of tearful goodbyes at the airport came back to me and I couldn’t bear the idea of all that, so I left, she was so sweet to me as I left, no anger at all (breaks my heart to think of it now).
Anyhow, I slept soundly, went to the airport, checked in, walking to passport control, thinking how good it will be to get home when suddenly and completely out of the blue I got hit by an emotional tsunami that left me without thoughts but the certain knowledge that more had happened to me in Thailand than I realised at that moment and that I would be coming back.
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the complexly choreographed dance routines were confined to a particular dance pair, with one girl being slightly more skilled than the other I think I know who you are talking about. I used to go in there fairly regularly but then stopped for quite a few months which is probably when most of the dancers changed. There was that show with the 2 girls who used to wear the white outfits with the fairy/angel wings which I specifically remember being particularly good in the dancing and looks dept.
Could have been Z... who left this pair, I don't know. The one who left was reasonably tall and had a good body and I can't recall anything about the fake tits. Do you remember their trench-coat, and bowler hat routine? Yes, my favourite show used to be the rock show with ACDC playing. Z-- had an amazing toned body (later ruined for me by the fake tits), but not such a good face, pretty enough but really bad skin. Her friend who usually danced the same shows as her was particularly attractive and had immaculate hair, make up etc, but they are both gone as of last time I was there. I am sure they will be back at some point.
The "white haired" girl does seem to be "up herself" somewhat.
Its not unusual to find bar-girls who have become quite "up themselves".
Not sure if they were always like that or if the bar has changed them.It's funny because I always wonder about similar things. I havent spoken to white haired girl yet, but she does look like she has been around the block a couple of times, she must have worked elsewhere on the scene before coming to Long Gun. I dont think she has been there more than about 6 months.
So thankfully for the bar, she had to get the knickers off. She was quite pissed off about this despite normally getting her knickers off quite regularly on the stageI would have loved to have seen that! She does seem a little less reserved about prancing around nude than some of the other show dancers, I wonder what she would be like back in the room... I am interested in finding out, but her attitude may be the killer for me. Next time I am in there I will go down the lady-drink route and see what that yields. BTW, funnily enough when I was in Pattaya a couple of weeks ago I actually saw her on Walking Street hanging on to some dude, both a little worse for wear. I guess he barfined her for the weekend or something.
My vote for the "top dancer" at this time would certainly be Nan, the very white skinned Japanese-looking one who had curly hair before, but recently made it straight and it looks much better now. She is hot as hell, in my opinion, and an excellent performer as well. Unfortunetly (but expectedly) she seems to be alittle cold with customers she doesn't know. In addition, i hear that her rate is THB 3k ST, 5k LT.Interesting about her rates, I didnt know that. I used to talk to her at one stage but she can be hard work so I dont bother so much now. She has a stunning body (by my tastes), but I notice she has put on a few extra kilos recently. I wonder if she is pregnant, or just eating to much.
Still, i keep coming back to LG because of the fun atmosphere, good shows and nice girls. Great place to hang out and relax. I have had more overall fun in that place than any other go-go in Thailand.I agree, Long Gun is nice to hang out in because there is virtually no pressure and no irratating waitresses and past their shelf life dancers annoying you for buy-me-drink and all that nonsense.
M P Lurker
12-02-07, 07:27
Interesting about her rates, I didnt know that. I used to talk to her at one stage but she can be hard work so I dont bother so much now. She has a stunning body (by my tastes), but I notice she has put on a few extra kilos recently. I wonder if she is pregnant, or just eating to much.
I agree, Long Gun is nice to hang out in because there is virtually no pressure and no irratating waitresses and past their shelf life dancers annoying you for buy-me-drink and all that nonsense.
She is probably putting on weight from drinking too many tequilas (gets drunk often), if I have got the right girl who looks half Japanese and has certainly put on weight (was doing the fairy show recently too) although her skinny dance partner N*** downs a lot of tequilas too without any apparent effect.
I like getting the boss at Long Gun drunk too, so that everyone can relax and have a good time.
Dolls House also seems to be a fun bar!
Checking out the Grace Hotel on Soi 3 in the last 2 weeks on my walks in the afternoon and evenings, I was surprised to see many P4P ladies outside on the sidewalk similar to the Nana Hotel. This was around 11 p. M. There were no Russians there and nothing to write home about, although indoors my T3 scanner spotted a few 200 pound East European ladies. The best the hotel had to offer was the ping pong and pool tables next to a bowling alley. It also may be a feel safe place for those who are paranoid about year end bombings.
Interesting about her rates, I didnt know that. I used to talk to her at one stage but she can be hard work so I dont bother so much now. She has a stunning body (by my tastes), but I notice she has put on a few extra kilos recently. I wonder if she is pregnant, or just eating to much.Honestly, the extra weight makes her just right, in my opinion. Her current dance partner is very nice also, but alittle too slim for my taste. The information on her rates came from another girl and i have yet to confirm it with her, but it would not surprise me at all. She is indeed hard work and seems generally uninterested in going with customers.
Honestly, the extra weight makes her just right, in my opinion. Her current dance partner is very nice also, but alittle too slim for my taste. The information on her rates came from another girl and i have yet to confirm it with her, but it would not surprise me at all. She is indeed hard work and seems generally uninterested in going with customers.I admit I am partial to a little extra padding :) I cant picture her dance partner off the top of my head right now. Not sure if the uninterested part is down to her specifically not wanting to, or because she has a complex of sorts. The few times I spoke to her she seemed quite shy and gave me the whole "farangs dont like me and never want to talk to me" routine. As a result her english is not really good and her attitude comes across as really stand-offish, although she seems to warm up over time. Too much hard work for me though, it is like you have to start again from scratch every time you go in there. Interestingly, according to her she used to be the cashier there for about 3 years before she started dancing.
She is probably putting on weight from drinking too many tequilas (gets drunk often), if I have got the right girl who looks half Japanese and has certainly put on weight
Yeah she used to have frizzy curlyish hair but recently it has been straightned. She has really white skin for a Thai girl also. Unusual features, I get the Japanese comparison, she almost looks like a anime character :)
I like getting the boss at Long Gun drunk too, so that everyone can relax and have a good time.The best time I ever had in there was when one of the mamasans (at least I think it was a mamasan, a really chubby woman) got on the stage and started doing all the dance routines. She was fully clothed but it was really funny and all the girls were getting into it and cheering, throwing money at her etc. The bar stayed open really late that night for some reason and everyone was partying. Maybe she choreographs the shows or something because she knew and peformed the whole ACDC routine despite her bulk! I have seen her in Rawhide more often than in LG.
Tratnguyen1
12-03-07, 01:18
I just recently spent 9days in Bangkok for a second time this year.
I stayed at Majestic suites at both times and growing like the place for its great location and friendly staff.
Yeah she used to have frizzy curlyish hair but recently it has been straightned. She has really white skin for a Thai girl also. Unusual features, I get the Japanese comparison, she almost looks like a anime character :)ol, she really does look like an anime girl doesn't she.
Sooner or later I am just going to try and take her because she is just too hot to be ignored. I agree with you completely about the stand-offish (but not too stuck up) attitude. If anyone has tried taking her out before please share your experience, I'm very curious about how she is in the bedroom.
Bamboo Pete
12-03-07, 08:24
i have been a monger in sea for about 15 years. before, i was always focused on fs, getting girls from soi cowboy and nep, but since i get the hints from this forum, i have more options.
arrived dec. 1st, after relaxing an hour at the pool, took a short walk to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). chose ‘ma’, cute face, but a little bit chubby (who cares for bj). behind the curtain, i had a good session. bbbj from a girl with tongue piercing gives a special feeling. bj was great, ball sucking, ass touching and she let me play with her titts and pussy. very good session, except the last 10 seconds, as she didn’t do cim. which made an excellent bbbj worse. damage: 700bj+100tip+2drinks, arround 1000b. went to soi cowboy at arround 9pm. after some warm up at cheevas and baccara, went to afterschool. i knew they try to pull drinks, and i played the game, but just with one girl (da). was fun and she knew how to make me horny. went to naughty boys corner, start little bj, finished with hj, nice technique. damage: 660 for drinks (incl. 6! ladies drinks), 400 hj and 100 tip = 1160b.
second day, went to patpong, s. o. l at 04:30pm. i was there last year and was sucked in the bar, but this year i had a problem to get hard. 5-6 other guys were busy in the bar which made me probably a bit shy. i took a deep sip of my beer. getting better. asked another girl to join. much better. they are really experts, got me to the top within some minutes. (i think the names were nang and uan). damage: 2 x 700, 2 x 100 tip, 2 ld, 2 beers: arrond 2000b. i’ll go again, but i will try to choose another time, when it’s not that busy.
after dinner, went to magic tables and to the ‘sister’ bar next door (ring bar). the two bars share the short time rooms upstairs. funny, they have different policies. in magic tables, they do it the ordinary way, 400b for the room, and negotiate the price with girls. in ring bar they have a little ‘menu’, starting with 800b for a quicky, until 2500b with 2 girls full service. didn’t try the room, but payed bar fine for a girl in magic tables. suai, much dfk and good bbbj, gfe in bed. what a contrast to the hard core session in sol. but that’s what i like – the whole spectrum.
next stop – angel or rainbow
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Member #3428
12-04-07, 05:14
OK folks, want some input and what to do in the middle of the night in BKK.
I hear some markets are open late but which ones, what are the good places to eat in the middle of the night (not need to be restaurants even street places are perfect), I know there are some all night massage places and such but not really looking at trying to pick up a lady at those hours.
But seriously, I need some advice on what to do in the middle of the night and I'm not talking about where to find a girl, I'm talking about what to do besides / after shagging.
I see lists of everything on this site except what to do after hours.
Member #2041
12-04-07, 06:14
Tansak, assuming that you don't have a long-time friend with you from 2 am to 8 am, you might try sleeping. Most of the rest of the world uses this time for this purpose.
Member #3428
12-04-07, 06:23
Tansak, assuming that you don't have a long-time friend with you from 2 am to 8 am, you might try sleeping. Most of the rest of the world uses this time for this purpose.
Sleep?? Nah... that's what work is for during the day. The only part I'm awake for during the day is lunch time. And I usually do have a long time friend next to me.
SidTheSexist
12-04-07, 06:51
Tansak,
You mention markets and massage etc, but if you want to carry the party on until the wee hours, you could try some of the 'after hour' bars. You usually see the touts outside of Nana trying to take you in their taxis. I was at first sceptical however, being in a group of 4 guys, we decided to give it a whirl. They only charged about 50bht for the taxi (which would only cost base rate 35 really) and we encountered none of the expected problems with following touts. We were taken to a couple of smallish bar/clubs with quite loud music but plenty of freelancers as well as freebies. They advertised as being open until 6am from what I remember but this was earlier this year. expect an entrance fee which includes 1-2 free drinks and drinks after that at approx 130-150bht.
Sid
I used to sit on Sukhumvit at one of those tables on the pavement where they serve beer and food. Thousands of girls who have finished work and are out for a girl, so you don't have to worry about going home alone. It is just a fantastic place to sit and watch the world go by, or have a few drinks with friends and strangers alike.
Is it just me or did that last sentence sound like a line from a theme song from some crappy sitcom?
For part 1, please read chiangmai thread
Part 2 (i) – Bangkok
Sazanka Korean Massage
After finishing my meeting, I asked to be drop at BTS station so that I can roam about myself. Recalled Giotto famous report on the various massage scene and went to search for the famous Sazanka. Followed the directions and found it easily(thanks Giotto)
Went in took a seat and looked at the 6 available gals. Took a fancy to one of them with pretty large boobs with rating as 16%. As I was about to point, I notice another with a rating of 33%!! My goddess! I ask papasan and he highly recommends her. Since its my 1st time, decided to try a tested and proven girl. Standing at about 150 and weighing only mid 40s kg, Mee is not a looker but makes up in the attitude department.
As I put my valuables into the locker, Mee was already waiting for me at the stairs. She greeted me with a warm smile and took my hands as we go upstairs. Had a small talk with her and off we went to the wet room downstairs.
The bath or scrub was great. She scrub me from toe to head and from head to toe and was very playful during the scrub. She would intentionally pour water over Junior and start to giggle, asking “why sleeping?” Anyway for the scrub, It started off using gloves to get rid of the dead skin and eventually piled salt over the body. (wondered why salt?) anyway washed off the salt and wash my hair. It was one of the most thorough wash in my entire life. Felt like having a set of new skin after that. This scrub and wash lasted for a good 45 mins.
After she helped me dry myself, we went up again and I lay down on the bed while she went to get the tools. She came in with a big pail and a basket. While lying face down, she piled the hot towels over my back and start the massage. To prevent the heat from escaping too fast, she even put a plastic over the towel. It was refreshing, but lasted about 5-10 mins. She removed the towels and start with her massage.
The bed somehow creaked loudly when she press me down, her fren next door was teasing her about it(my guess). think she was abit embarrassed about it and did not give a hard massage. Anyway, it was good enough. When the back is done, she ask me to turn over and I realised the room was almost pitched dark. She went on for a little longer before touching me softly, caressing my body.
I need no invitation and start roaming. Mee has small boobs and very flat tummy. She climb onto my body and started simulating cowgirl style, rocking and moaning abit, gripping junior with her hand, arching backwards while still facing me. I grabbed her boobs and tried to go inside, met with some resistance. Maybe they are not allowed or something. Anyway, just fondle them with clothes on while she work on junior. she came down and started jerking junior. we exchanged some light kisses and bites. after a while Junior went into ecstasy and unloaded. She went to clean up and brought me a cup of hot tea while I rest on the bed. Mee came in and helped me change and we chatted again.
She looked at me with her very innocent eyes and asked when I am coming back. Almost like a gf waiting for her guy to come back for dinner kind. I told her “soon” and she smiled, reminding me that she is off the next day. She walked me down and we parted.
Paid 1380 baht at the counter. Was wondering why it is called Sazanka Korean Massage, is it because it’s the name of the shop or the shop is named after this kind of massage. Tried asking the counter girl but she apparently did not know how to answer me too. Any one can enlighten?
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Part 2 (ii)
Maleen Massage (sukhumvit 23)
Had a meeting in the afternoon, so decided to try my luck in the morning. Rem the last time I had a good massage Maleen with a happy ending. Went there again to try. This place is located towards the end of soi 23 away from soi cowboy. On sukhumvit soi 23 shell station, keep walking for about 5-7 mins, past Tai Pan hotel. Keep walking and look on your right. It’s a small shop just before the junction.
Reach there at about 11 am. The girl I had the last time coming at 1 pm. There was only another girl and a male masseur. I told the boss I want girl massage, in case he assign me to the male, had a unpleasant time with a male masseur the day before, felt funny being touch by guys… not my preference for sure.
Anyway, Jen walked me up to the massage area above and ask me to change to the the thai massage outfit. I went to my old trick again and she stumbled upon junior staring at her, with the pants in my hands. As usual I was trying to figure out how to wear that oversize pants and she came over to help me. I pretend to wobble abit and had to hold her shoulders for support while she tries to get my legs into the pants. Junior was only about 10 cm away from her face. Thinking back, I sure did regret not planting junior onto her face then. Cheap trill? Ya, but I like.
She start her massage which is very strong and good! Its probable the best massage for the past few days. She was abit too talkative and asked me many things. She is about 29 and not married, have a boyfren and hates marriage commitment, think farangs’ dick are too big and painful, prefer asian one blah blah…
I reciprocate a little and we talk some dirty stuff and got me excited. During the massage, she would just (openly) grab and caress junior. I just lay back and enjoy the attention. On and off, I would also caress her boobs, medium size, prob cup B and very soft. She would also take my hand and offer me to squeeze her tits. Did I refuse? Hell NO!
At the end of a very good massage, she says, ‘ok, finished’ so I smiled and pulled her tits towards my face, burying them into her soft assets, asking her “anything else?” she reached down and started touching junior again while I continue with her tits.
While stroking, she ask how much I want to pay her. I told her market rate then. She told me its her 1st time providing special(Yah right…!!) and doesn’t know the rate. Then I asked her how much she want, in the end she reply 400bht. Looks like she really doesn’t know. Haha. I think I was too excited till forgot to negotiate. Anyway I agreed and she agreed to do a good job.
She starts working and I likewise. Lifted up her tshirt and grab her soft tits. Due to the earlier build up, ended within 5 mins. Damn… have not even remove her bra…
Change, paid her 400 and went downstairs to pay boss 300 baht for 90 mins of good thai massage. Anyway, this shop has good pricing policy. Its 60 mins for 250 baht and 120 min for 350baht. Would recommend if anyone wants a good massage plus specials. Left satisfied. Coming back for the previous girl who has much better boobs. Forgot her name though. Still enough time for a quick lunch before meeting start.
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I am in Bangkok for 4 nights.
I would like to visit
1. Go-Go bars with full nudity and
2. Massage parlours
I will spend a lot if I can enjoy Bangkok
Where do I go for beautiful and good looking girls, exceptionally good sex/massage and safe and clean place
Please reccomend the BEST places irrespective of cost
But seriously, I need some advice on what to do in the middle of the night and I'm not talking about where to find a girl, I'm talking about what to do besides / after shagging.
I see lists of everything on this site except what to do after hours. Depends on what you like. With your initials I'd suggest what I do. Watch TV. That should kill off a few Aeons.
I also like to eat, shower, read, enjoy Thai music. Some exercise after sexercise can also be healthy. Anyone for disco?
It seems that you already know about the internet. That should drain many more ages.
In place of bird watching those hours offer plenty of katooey meat. Maybe we could play a game called, spot the cross dresser?
In Nov. I crashed early one night and woke up at 5:30 AM. It was still dark so I went out to the Nana Plaza to see what was gong on. There were girls still working the parking lot! In front of Nana, a 50ish Mamasan asked me if I was interested in her 26 year old? and very drunk girl. I was not so I told her I only had 500 bht just to see her reaction and she looked very concerned and said “that’s not enough” so I moved on. I crossed SUK where there were still more than a dozen girls working. A young girl grabbed my arm and I told her I only had 500 and she said “let’s go.” That’s what goes on at 5:30 AM. As the sun comes up, the girls fade away.
In Nov. I crashed early one night and woke up at 5:30 AM. It was still dark so I went out to the Nana Plaza to see what was going on. There were girls still working the parking lot! In front of Nana, a 50ish Mamasan asked me if I was interested in her 26 year old? and very drunk girl. I was not so I told her I only had 500 bht just to see her reaction and she looked very concerned and said “that’ not enough” so I moved on. I crossed SUK where there were still more than a dozen girls working. A young girl grabbed my arm and I told her I only had 500 and she said “let’s go.” That’s what goes on at 5:30 AM. As the sun comes up, the girls fade away.
Member #3428
12-06-07, 02:46
Depends on what you like. With your initials I'd suggest what I do. Watch TV. That should kill off a few Aeons.
I also like to eat, shower, read, enjoy Thai music. Some exercise after sexercise can also be healthy. Anyone for disco?
It seems that you already know about the internet. That should drain many more ages.
In place of bird watching those hours offer plenty of katooey meat. Maybe we could play a game called, spot the cross dresser?
Nah... rarely watch TV. No music, overdose on music due to other work I have, and Internet I'm on all the time.
Seriously, disco or all night clubs or such. Used to have a GF until last trip then we stopped that, have a girl who wants to be GF but I honestly don't sleep much so after shagging and such it's hard to find things to do and work is a complete bore that I can do that in my sleep, it's all politics and I just need to shop up and be on call a lot.
Agree with exercise but generally the room is shut down at those hours even asking them to open up is a hassle most the time and the pools are OK for a little swim but that gets old after a while. I enjoy BKK obviously just wondering if there is something out there for the late late nights or early early mornings that I haven't figured out yet. Looks like there isn't so far.
So thanks for the replies so far.
OK folks, want some input and what to do in the middle of the night in BKK.
I hear some markets are open late but which ones, what are the good places to eat in the middle of the night (not need to be restaurants even street places are perfect)I think you can find street food 24/7, but would not recommend it for
health reasons. Foodland on soi 5 is open all day and night, as is the Villa Market at soi 11. Possibly the Golden Arches soi 19 and Mr. Sub near NEP intersection as well.
i have been a monger in sea for about 15 years. before, i was always focused on fs, getting girls from soi cowboy and nep, but since i get the hints from this forum, i have more options.
arrived dec. 1st, after relaxing an hour at the pool, took a short walk to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). chose ‘ma’, cute face, but a little bit chubby (who cares for bj). behind the curtain, i had a good session. bbbj from a girl with tongue piercing gives a special feeling. bj was great, ball sucking, ass touching and she let me play with her titts and pussy. very good session, except the last 10 seconds, as she didn’t do cim. which made an excellent bbbj worse. damage: 700bj+100tip+2drinks, arround 1000b. went to soi cowboy at arround 9pm. after some warm up at cheevas and baccara, went to afterschool. i knew they try to pull drinks, and i played the game, but just with one girl (da). was fun and she knew how to make me horny. went to naughty boys corner, start little bj, finished with hj, nice technique. damage: 660 for drinks (incl. 6! ladies drinks), 400 hj and 100 tip = 1160b.
second day, went to patpong, s. o. l at 04:30pm. i was there last year and was sucked in the bar, but this year i had a problem to get hard. 5-6 other guys were busy in the bar which made me probably a bit shy. i took a deep sip of my beer. getting better. asked another girl to join. much better. they are really experts, got me to the top within some minutes. (i think the names were nang and uan). damage: 2 x 700, 2 x 100 tip, 2 ld, 2 beers: arrond 2000b. i’ll go again, but i will try to choose another time, when it’s not that busy.
after dinner, went to magic tables and to the ‘sister’ bar next door (ring bar). the two bars share the short time rooms upstairs. funny, they have different policies. in magic tables, they do it the ordinary way, 400b for the room, and negotiate the price with girls. in ring bar they have a little ‘menu’, starting with 800b for a quicky, until 2500b with 2 girls full service. didn’t try the room, but payed bar fine for a girl in magic tables. suai, much dfk and good bbbj, gfe in bed. what a contrast to the hard core session in sol. but that’s what i like – the whole spectrum.
next stop – angel or rainbow
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i'm pretty sure i paid 600b, just over 2 months ago. is it 700b now, or am i wrong? seems like they keep on raising prices.
Member #4147
12-06-07, 12:44
Spice Club below Ambassador Hotel. All night disco, 300b inc a drink. Skytrain home @ sunrise.
Tansak, assuming that you don't have a long-time friend with you from 2 am to 8 am, you might try sleeping. Most of the rest of the world uses this time for this purpose.
What a waste to sleep away the pleasantly cool late-night hours, 2041. I much prefer to sleep during the day in the tropics when it is not only hot but filled with the workaday drones clogging up streets and transport.
I recently breezed into Bangkok in my usual fashion - around four in the morning. The hotel in the Nana area at which I enquired stated that if I waited till 6:00 AM I could get the hotel for the next day, saving one day's rent. So I went browsing in the famous parking lot and along Sukhumvit. Quite a few cute girls out but none who looked like they'd do precisely as I wanted. I even asked a few if their asses were open for business and was declined.
Finally I picked up a slim petite girl who was alas pushing 30. She stated her anus was available, and I said, 1,000 would be fine if no condom. Off we went to the very pricey short time room (310 baht!) where she turned out to be great fun in bed. After a great bbbj and extremely vigorous bbfs, I moved on to bba. She could handle it, and roughly. Finally a profoundly satisfying anal cream pie was attained.
I felt well pleased - Bangkok, as much as I dislike it, still provided what I was looking for. Of course at a high price and with a second-rate girl, but still I was satisfied.
I must say, however, that the ridiculous closing times and overall moralistic crusade in Thailand since around 2001 have left us nightowls with far less options. Everyone is faced with the perverse situation of having to rush to get their girl or customer before two AM. This warps both the market and one's evening.
I continued my wanderings in the Capital with a stop in poor old Patpong. Still limping along but looking endangered after all these years. I visited Kangaroo but alas, there was no girl there sufficiently good looking to do, and they quoted 800 baht!
At SOL I had the usual exciting treatment of bbbj out on the couches, followed by bbfs in the john. This was with a new girl. Great service, and I noticed they'd nearly all started using baby oil as part of their rendition. Still 700 baht.
The fun part was that after I stepped out, sated, several other guys were being blown as well. It was interesting to watch the girl's contortions, sexy to see their asses jutt out as they sucked, and lastly informative for future choice to see their techniques. One girl turned right around and put a very small member inside her vagina-hole without the interference of condom, much to the joy of the monger in question. This was impressive as it occurred outside the bathroom, so thus against the rules I suppose.
From thence I visited Pahurat, where I found delicious Indian food but none of the rumoured brothels. Then to Chinatown where many girl were out, and some appealing, but of course I was quoted 500 by the attractive ones. Seems like prices increase there at night. Of course I was too played out and stuffed with 'ahan kaek' to partake.
Condoms should most certainly NOT be required for oral sex in blow job bars, Gren, and if any girl tries to impose one you should walk. Can you imagine, a blow job with a condom on? What would be the point of purchasing something like that?
Condoms should be on there way out, as un got caught deliberatly exagerating aids statistics. I'm in cambodia now and its hard to get girl in brothel where it is still $5. to go with out it. some will but for extra tip. hopefully this news will get around and customers should walk out if girls need condom.
Nah... rarely watch TV. No music, overdose on music due to other work I have, and Internet I'm on all the time.
Seriously, disco or all night clubs or such. Used to have a GF until last trip then we stopped that, have a girl who wants to be GF but I honestly don't sleep much so after shagging and such it's hard to find things to do and work is a complete bore that I can do that in my sleep, it's all politics and I just need to shop up and be on call a lot.
Agree with exercise but generally the room is shut down at those hours even asking them to open up is a hassle most the time and the pools are OK for a little swim but that gets old after a while. I enjoy BKK obviously just wondering if there is something out there for the late late nights or early early mornings that I haven't figured out yet. Looks like there isn't so far.
So thanks for the replies so far.Many options all night. Just stroll up or down Sukhumvit and sit down on one of many "family restaurants". You won't sit there long before someone will join you. If you prefer more options, taxi drivers will know where to bring you. You may try Spice Club with entrance from Parking level 1 under Ambassador between soi 11 and 13. Open from 11pm, free entrance until 1am. After that 300 bt including 2 drinks. Live band until 2am, thereafter DJ up to 6 in the morning. Lots of freelancers available, many hunting for a farlang "boyfriend". Late night/early morning after some drinks most are ready for some fun.
Other discos are available like Tunnel (Langsuan) Spicy (why all these spices? ), Boss, Lucky. Also some places in Patpong. And what about Arab Club at Grace hotel;. A very different experience.
Keep hunting!
Lee66, I fear that the condom-mania will continue whether thirty millions are hosting the HI virus or forty millions.
Regarding some other figures of more immediate import - the drinks prices in Bangkok shocked me! In most places it was 100 baht for a beer, and in some it was 120. This was enough to make me gag on the stuff (I dislike it anyway). Cokes were nearly as much in most places, though in some they remained 65 baht.
This provides another motivation to avoid bars - it is a huge ripoff to even sit in one. I did take a girl from a gogo in Soi Cowboy just for experiment's sake - alas I cannot remember the name of the gogo. What a waste - 500 baht bar fine plus 500 baht to get her out of my room after she failed to perform. The little thief refused blow job. Don't take girls from gogos in Soi Cowboy brother mongers. The kicker with those gogos is also worth noting - 90% of the girls aren't really any better looking than freelancers once you get them up close.
I am in Bangkok for 4 nights.
I would like to visit
1. Go-Go bars with full nudity and
2. Massage parlours
I will spend a lot if I can enjoy Bangkok
Where do I go for beautiful and good looking girls, exceptionally good sex/massage and safe and clean place
Please reccomend the BEST places irrespective of costI do not wish to pay more than normal but I would like to visit the best places (irrespective of cost)
Mick, OTH, Giotto please advise.
Thanks
I need help from Senior Mongerers.
I am scheduled to be in Bangkok, later this month, with bag and baggage (With wife and kids) and am booked at Hotel Ambassador.
I am given to understand that at the Massage Parlour of the hotel, if one takes a normal massage, the girls do offer extras, is it true, has anyone any experience?
This will be the only solace for me, I look forward to be enlightened, thanks.
I arrived in Bangkok last night. I have read a lot of complaints about flights from the US all getting into Bangkok around 11 PM and that is not enough time to go out mongering (although it never stopped me). My Cathay Pacific flight from NY via Hong Kong arrived at 6:00 PM.
I sat in traffic, went to the hotel, and took a quick nap. I set the alarm for 90 minutes but must have hit the snooze bar. I jumped out of bed around 10:00 PM (It took me 10 minutes to figure out the time! This military time kills me. I know all i have to do is subtract 12 hours, but I still get messed up. I hope I am a better mongerer than mathematician).
I jumped into the shower and got to NP by 10:30, it's only 2 blocks from my hotel. I went to the 2nd floor and started sticking my head into the bars checking to see which ones had either a lot of girls or a lot of hot girls. I stopped at Rainbow 4, which seemed to be the biggest and had the best looking girls, IMHO. At least last night.
I had two beers and a real skinny girl caught my eye. But, I decided to part with tradition and try to find a pretty girl with a little more meat on her. Many of the girls were very attractive.
But, I still wanted to check NP out and see what else was going on. I hit most of the bars, bought a few beers here and there, and went back to Rainbow 4 to find my skinny girl. For me, it seems always to be true that the first one I like winds up being the one I wind up going back to.
However, she was not there. A German man sitting next to me had a funny remark. He said, "don't worry she will be back in 20 minutes" in a very Arnold Schwartzeneggeresque voice. He was right, she was back, but it was because they dance 5 songs at a time and she was off the stage for 5 songs. However, in the meantime, I gave the mamasan a few bucks and asked her to find me a "new" girl. Maybe I should have defined "new". The first girl she brought over had been there a year! I guess "new" is a relative term.
She was pretty, but her personality wasn't right for me. The same with the second girl. I told the mamasan not to worry about it and that I would find one on my own. She brought another little cutie over and this one was a good fit, no pun intended.
I asked her how much for LT. She said 4000 Baht. I said, "never mind" and started to look away. I then told her the most I would pay was 3000 baht and that she better make this a good night. She agreed, on one condition, that we go meet one of her friends for a drink because it was her birthday.
I figured, ok, I have read all the books on Thailand and knew they would expect me to pay for everything, but I figured, it was an experience and let's see what happened.
We hopped in a taxi and went to the disco at the Ambassador Hotel. I have never been there before. I could not believe the sign I read when I went in saying that it was open until 6 AM. I thought every closed at 2 AM. Learn something new every day.
We met her friend, who had a Thai guy friend and a farang guy with her. She was very nice and both guys were very nice. Turns out this girl has a hookup at the club and we barely pay for anything. 2 more of her friends show up at around 2:30 AM. How dumb am I? I look around and realize that this is just another meat market, but instead of dancing in bikinis and with a pole, they are dancing in their every day clothes on the dance floor. I figure I have to remember this place for late nights. There were a lot of independents as well as NP and Soi Cowboy girls there.
Of course one of her friends is hotter than she is. OK, 2 of her friends but who is counting. But this one girl looks like an American Indian. Beautiful.
But I digress...
So after we decide to take off, which happens to be after I lost my cell phone and didn't find it, she and one of her friends come back to my hotel for some food. I tried everything but I can't get her friend to stay. She has a boyfriend and he works in my hotel!
So my girl comes into bed and she has got a great, tight, little body with great nips. She is into the BJ but I talk her into it for a little bit. Definitely points against her. We shagged. We fell asleep. We shagged again an hour later. She is still in the bed. I am only 40, but I am here for 4 more nights. I hope she doesn't want to shag again! After all, I have to go out again tonight.
My plan for the evening is to either:
1) Check out Soi Cowboy (haven't been there in a while and things were a little tame at NP last night).
2) Go to Soprano House and figure out how much money I can waste on one of those model types. Please don't flame me. I already know this is a bad idea.
3) Go back to Rainbow 4, sneak in, pick up her American Indian looking friend, and run like hell before this little girl figures out that I bar fined one of her best friends!
Hopefully it will be an eventful evening and some fun will be had by all.
I do not wish to pay more than normal but I would like to visit the best places (irrespective of cost)
Mick, OTH, Giotto please advise.
ThanksLong gun,in Soi Cowboy has full nudity,and good rock music.
Lee66, I fear that the condom-mania will continue whether thirty millions are hosting the HI virus or forty millions.
Regarding some other figures of more immediate import - the drinks prices in Bangkok shocked me! In most places it was 100 baht for a beer, and in some it was 120. This was enough to make me gag on the stuff (I dislike it anyway). Cokes were nearly as much in most places, though in some they remained 65 baht.
This provides another motivation to avoid bars - it is a huge ripoff to even sit in one. I did take a girl from a gogo in Soi Cowboy just for experiment's sake - alas I cannot remember the name of the gogo. What a waste - 500 baht bar fine plus 500 baht to get her out of my room after she failed to perform. The little thief refused blow job. Don't take girls from gogos in Soi Cowboy brother mongers. The kicker with those gogos is also worth noting - 90% of the girls aren't really any better looking than freelancers once you get them up close.
Sounds familiar. The thing to do is always to spell out the details before you barfine. BBBJ and things like that. If she refuses to honor her end of the bargain you pay her nothing and tell her you want to get your barfine back from the place. Most of the time they'll change their tune. When they think you are weak they'll pull that shit over and over. No go home early, no school tomorrow, no need to go see baby crap. And no 1000B tips even if she does well, because it sets up a bad trip for the next monger.
Anybody who's frequently getting full service without protection in Bangkok should read this.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickMarkII/BangkokPartyingWithoutAPartyHat.htm
Redfield10
12-08-07, 20:43
3) Go back to Rainbow 4, sneak in, pick up her American Indian looking friend, and run like hell before this little girl figures out that I bar fined one of her best friends!
Juice guy. Your comment above is hilarious. They could care less (in fact they welcome it) if you barfined their friend.
These are P4P women, hello! They would gladly both do you at the same time. Separately or over and over again.
It isn't "you" they like. It's your "money."
Thanks for crushing my ego as it was just growing so quickly in Bangkok. I know, you are totally right.
Are you sure it's the money they want? I thought I could he my girl whisper I "love you" under hear breath. Actually, what she really said was "move your hand you're pulling my hair"! LOL
I get bored during the day in BKK, mostly because I am just lazy. So yesterday around 4 PM I decided to have a look around. What I really wanted was a great, non sexual, oil massage to make my body feel better.
I walked the area around my hotel and stumbled onto Annie's. I have been there before so I checked it out. I walked up the stairs and told any that I need a good western Swedish massage (none of that Thai massage with a stick!). She heloed me pick the girl, # 16, who was very good at massage.
You know the scene, first we take bath and she cleans me at every angle and every inch. Then she pulls you up so she can get to your member. Right there in the bath she gives me a BBBJ. And she is really good! I tell her she better stop or I going to come right now and won't have anything available for sex. She say "you cum twice". I said, "OK".
From there we go onto the bed. Good massage although she may have been one of those old former Soviet Union Olympics Female Wrestlers in a previous life. She was trying to stretch my bodies it hadn't been stretched in in years. But it was a great massage.
She starts back with the BBBJ and after about 10 minutes moves on top of me. We switch at some point and I take her from the back. She finishes me off again with the now all too familiar BBBJ. She achieves her missions. I achieve my mission.
I go back to the hotel, shower, take a nap (all that getting massaged stuff must've been harder work than I expected).
I went to NP to find my American Indian (see yesterday's post). First set of girls dances, no American Indian (her friend was not there either!). 2nd set of girls dance, no American Indian. I am already on my second beer. 3rd set she starts dancing and my bar stool is right above her. I smiled at her knowing that she would remember me from the disco the night before. She smiles back and clearly does not have the least memory of me from the night before. As psycholoigcal defense I start looking for every flaw in her body. Her skin is a little too dark. Her boobs are a little to small. Whatever I can think of. She was no longer perfect in my book!
I found the mamasan and asked her if 61 was availbale for LT. She brought her over. This girl was smoking hot with a tight body. We negotiated the deal, brought her back to the hotel, did the deed (for which she should be give some sort of gymnastic prize). She was really cool to hang out with. If she wasnt that hot I would nout be able to cum again, what would be my 5th time in the 24 hours since I arrived in Bangkok.
Her name is Gik and she was really worth it. I paid her 3000 Baht.
Cool chick.
Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Not sure what I am doing tonight, but if any fell monger brothers are here in BKK tonight and want to grab a beer, PM me and let me know how to contact you or what time to meet and where. I will buy the first round.
I spent the first 4 nights in Pattaya and had one girl per day - nothing compared to many of you. Then 6 nights in Bangkok with my buddy.
We stayed at Livingstone's Lodge and started at the three massage parlors on Sukhumvit Soi 33. Teen is in the name of two of them. We checked all 3. In the last, with a lineup of 10 girls, we both found nice lookers. B2500 total for an hour, full sex, with oil massage, including ball massage. My experience was good, but she spoke no English. Kind of makes it hard to enjoy the whole experience. Meanwhile, I heard my buddy and his girl laughing and joking in the next room. Her English was good, but he said the sex wasn't. I guess that's the problem with the fishbowl or lineup, as opposed to chatting and having a drink with them first. Can't really get a good read on them.
Next day we tried Annie's at 1 pm, but the line up was grim. Seven girls (women) most a little older. We both though that one of girls was do-able. Just then, the Westerner sitting at the bar selected her. We decided to pass. I've since heard that Annie's tends to have older (but more experienced women) and that 1pm is not a great time.
So we checked a couple of the open air bars on Soi 4. We both were very attracted to Moi, virtually at the same time. We tend to like the same girls, spinners and young. Moi looked both (although she turned out to be 34), good English, and very upbeat. Unfortunately, none of the girls in that bar were of the same caliber. We said we'd come back. We checked the other two bars nearby. As my buddy put it, we were both looking for a decent girl for the other guy.
At some point, I decided to let him have Moi, and I chose another girl. I was looking for short time and he was looking for long time, so I gave him Moi, the headliner. Guess I'm a pretty good wingman.
Mine was ok, but Moi turned out to be great. He spent the next 4 days with her. In retrospect, I think the next time I will probably skip the massage parlors, and try finding the long term gfe. I don't really like Long Time, but if it's over multiple days and there is some chemistry, it might be great. He found the chemistry, partly because she was just so easy to get along with and she liked serving him.
Moi is educated, speaks pretty good English, and worked in Burma in a forest conservation program. Somehow she crossed the wrong land owner or developer, which landed her in jail, or as she says, "The monkey house". I never could get that whole story quite straight.
Interesting side note: Moi owns her own home. She told me it cost B900,000 ($27,000). She put down B200,000 that she had saved from the job in Burma. The rest is financed over 30 years with a loan that is government subsidized or rate controlled ?? She pays B5000 per month. I didn't do the math, but it sounds typical of a home loan in the States.
Anyway, I'll try Soi Cowboy on my last night, with my buddy and Moi. He ends up the winner on this trip, as he found a great long term GFE. That will be my goal next time.
No cell phone for Moi, otherwise I would try to contact her on my next trip.
M P Lurker
12-09-07, 15:13
Mine was ok, but Moi turned out to be great. He spent the next 4 days with her. In retrospect, I think the next time I will probably skip the massage parlors, and try finding the long term gfe. I don't really like Long Time, but if it's over multiple days and there is some chemistry, it might be great. He found the chemistry, partly because she was just so easy to get along with and she liked serving him.
....
Anyway, I'll try Soi Cowboy on my last night, with my buddy and Moi. He ends up the winner on this trip, as he found a great long term GFE. That will be my goal next time.
No cell phone for Moi, otherwise I would try to contact her on my next trip.
Unlikely name "Moi" means pubic hair.
Timewaster
12-10-07, 00:15
Does anybody know what time the shows starts? How much time is between each show?
Old Thai Hand
12-10-07, 03:42
Unlikely name "Moi" means pubic hair.
Actually, Mick, Moi is a Thai nickname, but is pronounced differently than the word for pubic hair. Another common nickname is Jim or Jumjim. Jim pronounced in a certain way means pussy. Still another is Jue. Jue when pronounced like "Jew" means a baby boy's cock. There are lots of nicknames that are a minefield for the uninitiated.
Senior Mongerers,
I need some help,I will be at Bangkok at The Ambassador Hotel,later this month,but with Family.I hear at the Health Club,if one asks for a massage,one can get"extras" too,is it true?
For that is going to be my only chance to have fun,I look forward to hear from Senior Mongerers.
Bye
Can anyone confirm for me whether you can book a single lady session at either the Eden Club in Bangkok or at the sister establishment, Hell Club in Pattaya? I thought I read it here months ago that it is available at the Hell Club when they first opened. I am interested because I have been told that the ladies are expert providers but I don't need the distraction of the two-girl extravaganza! As I recall, it was 1800 baht for the single girl and 3600 for the full two-girl deal.
Member #3428
12-10-07, 06:42
Can anyone confirm for me whether you can book a single lady session at either the Eden Club in Bangkok or at the sister establishment, Hell Club in Pattaya?
I don't frequent Eden often, but the only time I had a single girl was when i booked one for for me and the girl i was seeing at the time as a special request. They let one girl go to join us to teach / show / play with the girl I was seeing. But that's all I know of. At Eden, no idea about Hell Club.
Evil is the Eden expert hopefully he'll chime in or PM him. You can also email Marc direclty and ask.
M P Lurker
12-10-07, 06:45
Actually, Mick, Moi is a Thai nickname, but is pronounced differently than the word for pubic hair. Another common nickname is Jim or Jumjim. Jim pronounced in a certain way means pussy. Still another is Jue. Jue when pronounced like "Jew" means a baby boy's cock. There are lots of nicknames that are a minefield for the uninitiated.
OTH,
I haven't met anyone called Moi, so perhaps you could explain the likely tone for me, to save me embarressment of pronouncing the wrong way when I do meet someone with this name.
I presume its not rising tone as for "pussy fluff".
You may as well give me the pronunciation for names:
Jim and Juu as well since I commonly hear then with rising tones (I think) .
I am also aware of Jim falling tone meaning to dip-in or poke-in.
The girls used to crack-up when I used to say "gawn (low) nuat (falling)" (before the massage) when I mean't to say "gorn (falling) nuat (low)" (have a shave). I'm very careful with that one but still hit mines regularly.
Mick
Vinny_Viagra
12-10-07, 16:46
[QUOTE=Wandere]Senior Mongerers,
I need some help,I will be at Bangkok at The Ambassador Hotel,later this month,but with Family.I hear at the Health Club,if one asks for a massage,one can get"extras" too,is it true?
For that is going to be my only chance to have fun,I look forward to hear from Senior Mongerers.
I stayed there a few years back and took a massuse gal each day. She was great and each day offered me more and more. Im sure on the first day we could have done fs too. Frankly, it had been more than 25 years since I went to that hotel for a massage and nothing changed. The same rooms, same ceilig, and same lack of a functioning shower. So I doubt anything has changed in a few years. The girls were generally average. Some did anal I was told. Send your family out on a tour or shopping and try it. There are better massage places just out the front door. Get the gal to your room if you can.
v
ThaiLearner
12-10-07, 23:14
Can anyone confirm for me whether you can book a single lady session at either the Eden Club in Bangkok or at the sister establishment, Hell Club in Pattaya? I thought I read it here months ago that it is available at the Hell Club when they first opened. I am interested because I have been told that the ladies are expert providers but I don't need the distraction of the two-girl extravaganza! As I recall, it was 1800 baht for the single girl and 3600 for the full two-girl deal.
As far as I am aware in you use there place then you should take two girls but you can take just the one back to your hotel.
newby review day 1 bkk actually writing this on the morning of the 3rd day. i am going to write as i rememeber things, so the structure might be haphazard. will try to be as detailed as possible ( so people have a better idea of the cost involved and to help mongers on a budget like me) and will be doing things from my perspective. read the forum to book a place to stay (choose livingstone which seemed suited for a newbie) and for more info on the scene in bkk. once i booked my ticket i took another 2 days to figure what exactly i would be doing. the plan in the end was to stay 3 days in bangkok, 4 days in either koh samui or pattaya (depending on how bangkok went) and then back to bkk for another 3 days. i am not a serious mongerer and this was a holiday too.
flew from london on eva, direct flight cost 450gbp. 2 weeks later i checked the prices for the same ticket and it was 650gbp (writing this from livingstone and can’t find a pound sign). landed at the new airport, followed the suggestion from the forum and took a metered taxi. at whichever entrance you exit the departure hall, the metered taxi’s are outside (on the concourse itself) on the left. you should see a queue of place. took me a while to figure this out. queued up and it did not take long to get a taxi. there is a guy with a small table and you tell him you’re destination (in this case it was soi 33 along sukhimvit or in thai “soi sam sip sam” sukhumvit)(thanks guido! i got this off him by e-mail before flying down). got in the taxi and the taxi driver said 400 baht. i said are you not using the meter? and he said no problem so we did (you pay all the toll). i have changed some money in the uk before coming and the smallest denomination i had was 1000baht. the first toll the driver asked me to pay and i took out 1000baht and he said it was too big. i asked whether they would change it at the toll? and he said never mind he would pay this (not sure if it actually was 100baht). the second toll cost 85 baht and the meter to livingstone’s was about 210baht. so all in all the metered cab cost 500baht. passed long beach on the way to the airport, it’s been mentioned in some reports. (writing this i realise i should review at the end of the eay when the way i feel was clearer).
for the first timer to te airport the thing that hits you is the sheer sprawl of the place. after the initial “please use the meter” i decided to break the ice and start chatting with the taxid drivers, i tend to avoid taxi’s whenever i can because the times when there is no choice but to take them they to tend to gouge you (and this is universal all over the world except for metered cabs) so have a few unhappy experiences under my belt but i klike to talk to them and find them interesting. tried to explain i was vegetarian and how do you say it in thai. he didn’t understand. asked about his family etc. apparently he works 24 hours and sleeps and stays in his car. his wife and kids are 250km away and he sees then once a month. they are farmers as he was until he became a taxi driver 14 years ago. one day he does 4 trips from the airport. doesn’t take passengers back. turned into soi 33 and just missed lingstone’s and doubled back to it. when to the reception, which is inside, right,pass the buffet counter and to the right. checked in and it hit me. fuck i actually needed to have done more research!
how i choose thailand was i was looking for a cheap mongering holiday for the uk and looking at this forum, the ee countries seem to be done over (accoding to posters there) and while i always wanted to go to russia, the prices there seem high and the xenophobia worrisome (always wanted to visit russia as a tourist in the 90’s when i think the climate was friendlier but just reading the news that comes out now, things seem to have changed). some of the ee countries as well seemed to be not too friendly and too much work (learning the lingo etc). it was also a place whre there was more bang for my buck. there are thai girls in the uk whose services are very, very good amd i think if you have money anywhere in the world you can get what you want, without having to travel but middling wage earners like me, need to take 12 hour flights and save up. so here i am in thailand where it is still cheap and i can afford a decent hotel. also according to the forum the scene in thailand is changing and thought it was time to visit before it turns into something else (cambaodia, loas and vietnam also seem to be hard work more suited to dedicated mongers rather than part timer and one-offers like me. i had booked miki at kane online (just checked my e-mail acccount today (3 days later) and they had actually replied with a confirm ad voucher for 5% off for any other girl). got the directions from searching the forum. i had booked at 7pm. my plane landed at 4pm and i knew the palce was near livingstone’s akane is a massage and bj joint, it was only after reading the forum that i realised how all the massage places are so focused on japanese clientele with websites in japanes and the girls/ladies all having japanese names. for the first days review i am not going to name names since the ladies had 100% good personality. i have realised from punting/mongering and reading reviews of girls that others and i have had, that they react to you and your personality so if you undemanding like me then don’t expect them to act like pornstars.
akane from sukhumvit is down soi 33, pass livingstone’s, on the left.. look for the peep inn hotel sign and it is in the car park on the left. you should be able to see a sign saying akane from the road. (will continue this later, the review is taking too long and i still have 7 days of los to enjoy, it 10am now and i and off to see the grand palace and adjoining temples)
this is a draft that i wrote on my 3rd day in los. the initial plan was to write a report everyday but did not have the time. lots of things happened tha i would like to share., so i will be writing my 11 day report in los probably a day at a time. the initial idea was to do a "stream of conciousness" type of report but there was too much information to absord and spew out and did not have time to do it. so back home and a week later i am writing this report. a lot of things i thought at the beginning were overturned by the end but i will try to be as true as possible as to how i felt each day.
please be patience as i gather my thoughts and try to separate how each day went.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
As far as I am aware in you use there place then you should take two girls but you can take just the one back to your hotel.
A dissenting opinion here. I went there a very long time ago and one girl was certainly an option. I'd be v surprised if this policy had changed because, one of the reasons the place has been such a success is that Marc has long had the attitude that 'what the customer wants the customer gets' - why would he ruin a winning formula by mandating 2 girls?
NicFrenchy
12-11-07, 07:00
for that is going to be my only chance to have fun,i look forward to hear from senior mongerers.not really sure any senior bkk mongerer would even venture in this place.
i think your best bet is to go shop @ pantip plaza or someplace where family won't follow. book the ambassador spa for your family and go out to a knowned massage joint where you are sure to have a good time.
not far from soi 11 (almost across on sukhumvit), soi 8, are:
- [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (blowjob bar) --> prepare 1,000thb
- aviva massage www.avivabkk.com --> prepare 2,000thb
Great report. I know it's a lot of work to prepare a report. Just wanted to let you know I'm eager to read more from you.
OTH,
I haven't met anyone called Moi, so perhaps you could explain the likely tone for me, to save me embarressment of pronouncing the wrong way when I do meet someone with this name.I met a lady who spelled her name Moi and pronounced it Moy as in toy.
Rambis Youth
12-11-07, 14:29
Good report. I suspect you may have been ripped off on the tolls. From memory combined they were less than 100 baht.
Evil Penivel
12-11-07, 17:35
Can anyone confirm for me whether you can book a single lady session at either the Eden Club in Bangkok or at the sister establishment, Hell Club in Pattaya? I thought I read it here months ago that it is available at the Hell Club when they first opened. I am interested because I have been told that the ladies are expert providers but I don't need the distraction of the two-girl extravaganza! As I recall, it was 1800 baht for the single girl and 3600 for the full two-girl deal.
As far as I know, you CANNOT book a single-lady inhouse session at either the Hell Club or Eden for less than the two-lady price. Many years ago, when Eden first opened, it was possible to do single-lady inhouse sessions, but not any more It has always been possible to do single-lady overnight takeaway sessions (10 p.m. to at least 6.00 a.m.) for 3,000 baht at both establishments.
At the Hell Club, the management took the single-lady inhouse option off the menu after just a few weeks of operation. However, it never hurts to ask. The owner of the Hell Club uses the name Cerberus on many boards. Bruce (who's very obliging and customer-service oriented) is the manager of the Eden Club since Marc retired for health reasons. Again, you could ask about a single-lady inhouse session, but I doubt Eden would be likely to make exceptions to its current policy.
Evil
The toll is 40 Baht and 25 Baht for a total of 65 Baht from the Airport to Sukumvit area. The airport charge is 50 baht.
If you give agree for 300 Baht taxi fare it is right. Any other amount you are scammed.
Most of the taxi drivers do not activate the meter. I always tell them to put the meter on and the they say you pay 300 Baht.
If you do not challenge the driver you are going to get into problems at the destination point.
Richard Rams
12-12-07, 00:56
Does anyone know about a girl called Zoe ( I think this is how you spell it ) works out of Golden Bar at Nana Hotel. Any info would help.
LittleBigMan
12-12-07, 03:15
Richard Rams,
Is this the bar right outside the disco? If so, I have never seen any good looking girls in that bar except maybe those just having a drink with farangs. My usual stay at Nana Hotel when I walk by I usually see the regular old and I mean old ladies sitting near the elevator. Would one of them be Zoe? No matter how often I stay at Nana I always get a good laugh when I walk by and see these old ladies. Can't help to think who the hell would pick them that they are always sitting there night after night. Maybe they do get pick my the near dead drunks going back to their rooms via elevator maybe that's why from time to time I hear screaming in the early mornings!
LBM
Does anyone know the "real" prices?
I was quoted..4600 S 5600 SL and 6600 (SM) bhat and I thought I was being quoted Farang prices so I walked out...the girls, however, were gorgeous...
Also I was taken to cupidy massage by one of the tuk buggies...the manager thought I was easy prey..quoted me 4000 baht--ordered water chatted with a fellow monger who told me the actual price...ended up walking out of there to the dismay of the mgr...
Spent most of my time in Pattaya where I payed 700 ST and 1K LT for stunners...I will fire up a report soon
Richard Rams
12-12-07, 07:57
Richard Rams,
Is this the bar right outside the disco? If so, I have never seen any good looking girls in that bar except maybe those just having a drink with farangs. My usual stay at Nana Hotel when I walk by I usually see the regular old and I mean old ladies sitting near the elevator. Would one of them be Zoe? No matter how often I stay at Nana I always get a good laugh when I walk by and see these old ladies. Can't help to think who the hell would pick them that they are always sitting there night after night. Maybe they do get pick my the near dead drunks going back to their rooms via elevator maybe that's why from time to time I hear screaming in the early mornings!
LBMGolden Bar is in front of Nana Hotel overlooking entrance to NEP. All the BarGirls wear the same colour tops, different colour for different day e.g Monday Yellow, Tuesday Pink etc. Girls not in your face, if you like one buy a drink if not don't and look around. When I was there last week the majority were 20-25 year old. a few were 30+ but none old hags. I don't drink so I don't have BeerGoggle Vision. Zoe was small stunning and a veritable gymnast in the sack and very streetwise. Barfine in Golden was 350baht and ST prices for them was 1500-2000 baht. Tryed more than one. Younger Girls less experienced.
M P Lurker
12-12-07, 08:02
I met a lady who spelled her name Moi and pronounced it Moy as in toy.
Pink Pearl,
I already knew that.
As OTH and I speak Thai and you don't, I think you missed the subtleties of my question re the pronunciation.
There are 5 tones in Thai which affect the pitch of a syllable.
With the wrong pitch, the word comes out quite wrong and Thai people may misunderstand.
That is what I was asking OTH about as I am unfamiliar with this Thai name but OTH isn't.
Some bad news for all alcohol lovers amongst us:
Bars in Bangkok (Thailand) are not allowed to sell alcohol
from Friday, 14.12.2007, 6 pm to Sunday 16.12.2007, 6 pm
and
from Saturday, 22.12.2007, 6 pm to Sunday 23.12.2007, Midnight.
As we heard most of the bars in Soi Nana, Soi Cowboy and Soi 33 will be closed on those days.
Background is the upcoming general elections in Thailand. I am not sure about why we have to stop selling alcohol the next weekend already (14. - 16.12.2007), they talk about something like pre-elections, obviously the people can already vote at special locations next weekend.
Livingstone's will be open, but we will NOT sell any alcohol.
The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Even though I won't be there during that period, G, I have a question. Can guests buy alcohol at the market the day before and consume it on premises, for example, sit at the pool with a bottle, or not? Can they bring it into the lounge?
Also will the mini bar be filled on an as needed basis?
Just curious.
Even though I won't be there during that period, G, I have a question. Can guests buy alcohol at the market the day before and consume it on premises, for example, sit at the pool with a bottle, or not? Can they bring it into the lounge?
Also will the mini bar be filled on an as needed basis?
Just curious.Mr. Vice President,
Mini bar and comsumption in the room - no problem. Buying alcohol the day before and consumption in the room - no problem.
Drinking alcohol around the swimming pool will most likely bring the owner / manager of Livingstone's directly into jail. Even if you bought it privately the day before - nobody will believe that.
We called our friends in brown today, to discuss the problem of selling alcohol to our hotel guests. They told us: If we do --> Giotto --> Jail. It is serious this time, and they will check the bars.
Good luck to all of you. Bangkok Hilton is no fun at all, as I heard :) ...
Giotto
Dextro Sol
12-13-07, 15:53
Senior Mongerers,
I need some help,I will be at Bangkok at The Ambassador Hotel,later this month,but with Family.I hear at the Health Club,if one asks for a massage,one can get"extras" too,is it true?
For that is going to be my only chance to have fun,I look forward to hear from Senior Mongerers.
ByeI was in your situation a couple of weeks ago, my wife and I stayed not far from your hotel at Swiss Park and if you are out only for a massage with happy ending I would recommend Sabai Sabai. You will find it in the lane behind 7/11 in Soi 11 (right side if you are heading towards Sukumvit). They provide fairly good massage and the girls offer hand job at least. OR you can do like I did. I went looking for mc-parts in a shop far away... and be away for at least 2 hours. I knew my wife would not be interested in following... you can read my report here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=679514&postcount=3063
Fast Eddie 48
12-13-07, 17:31
Some bad news for all alcohol lovers amongst us:
Bars in Bangkok (Thailand) are not allowed to sell alcohol
from Friday, 14.12.2007, 6 pm to Sunday 16.12.2007, 6 pm
and
from Saturday, 22.12.2007, 6 pm to Sunday 23.12.2007, Midnight.
As we heard most of the bars in Soi Nana, Soi Cowboy and Soi 33 will be closed on those days.
Background are the upcoming general elections in Thailand. I am not sure about why we have to close the next weekend already (14. - 16.12.2007), they talk about something like pre-elections, obviously you the people can vote at special locations already next weekend.
Livingstone's will be open, but we will NOT sell any alcohol.
The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.
http://www.livingstones.co.thGiotto,
It this for Bangkok only if that is the case I should just go to Pattaya for a few day instead.
Fast eddie 48
Giotto,
Will the girls still be working or will Saturday after 6pm be a dead night in BKK?
I was at Hollywood pub around 11.00pm. The place was very big and crowded. They even have security checking at entrance similar to those at the hotel or airport. There are mostly Thais there but some other nations as well.
There were some singers singing and some dancers doing performance. I was told the good show only start after 12.00 midnight.
Most of the people there were drinking Johnny Walker but I found out later it was not. The bottle is very similar. The singer would take a sip or two of the drinks and were rewarded with tips.
At about 12.00 midnight the music got hotter and some 20 young girls dancing with their sexy dresses.
I left before 12.30 am and realised later that I have missed the real fun at Hollywood, the topless dancers!!
Btw, confirmed the previous reports on video were taken from Hollywood:
1. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=668102&postcount=504
2. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669411&postcount=533
The oscar status are the trade marks.
Giotto,
It this for Bangkok only if that is the case I should just go to Pattaya for a few day instead.
Fast eddie 48Fast Eddie 48,
It should be for all Thailand - but it is basically up to the local police what regulation they impose in a specific area.
I don't know for sure the regulations for Pattaya, but I expect that it will be the same as in Bangkok.
Giotto
Mr. Vice President,
Mini bar and comsumption in the room - no problem. Buying alcohol the day before and consumption in the room - no problem.
Drinking alcohol around the swimming pool will most likely bring the owner / manager of Livingstone's directly into jail. Even if you bought it privately the day before - nobody will believe that.
We called our friends in brown today, to discuss the problem of selling alcohol to our hotel guests. They told us: If we do --> Giotto --> Jail. It is serious this time, and they will check the bars.
Good luck to all of you. Bangkok Hilton is no fun at all, as I heard :) ...
Giotto
Do you even have to empty the minibars?
Thailand is getting more and more insane. Thank god I don't have to live there. Maybe the Gouvernment doesn't allow alcohol so that the Thais don't get drunk before voting and forget which which vote they have been paid for.
In Hong Kong when a restaurant has the alcohol license pending they would allow customers dining in to bring their own. Would that be an idea? Of course every one has to stock up early.
Giotto,
Will the girls still be working or will Saturday after 6pm be a dead night in BKK?Strike1,
We are open, the girls are working. Our place is usually packed on those days, because not many bars will open in Soi 33.
Giotto
Member #2041
12-14-07, 05:06
Glad I'm in Pattaya these next few days.
Pink Pearl,
I already knew that.
As OTH and I speak Thai and you don't, I think you missed the subtleties of my question re the pronunciation.
There are 5 tones in Thai which affect the pitch of a syllable.
With the wrong pitch, the word comes out quite wrong and Thai people may misunderstand.
That is what I was asking OTH about as I am unfamiliar with this Thai name but OTH isn't.I am reminded of a lady who said a word that I repeated about 10 times just like she was saying it and kept trying to correct me, getting more and more frustrated. Maybe I sounded to her like Steve Martin in the Pink Panther trying to say hamburger. The word may have been "cow", meaning white in Thai, but I doubt it. BTW I do speak the language. I have a working vocabulary of 10-20 words. Although on days when I can't remember my bank card PIN number the range drops to between 2 and 4.
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