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...and then.... he got sucker punched? and did the guy run away after that?...
Yes, he got sucker punched; then kicked full in the face on his way to the floor; and finally kicked visciously twice in the head while he was down and out.
And yes, the little coward who cold cocked him ran away.
Not a very fair fight IMHO. This is why I try to keep a low profile in the LOS.
Yes, he got sucker punched; then kicked full in the face on his way to the floor; and finally kicked visciously twice in the head while he was down and out.
And yes, the little coward who cold cocked him ran away.
Not a very fair fight IMHO. This is why I try to keep a low profile in the LOS.SOP Thailand, I was kind of surprised that there weren't 5 or 6 more guys doing the flip-flop cha-cha on the dude after he was down & out. Also SOP LOS. (They must have known it was being vdo'd)
The guy was arguing about a drink he said he paid for and never got. Expensive drink (that he still didn't get.)
Raising your voice to Thais never amounts to anything good.
There are reports how we all manage to get a freebie and have great sex with her but here is a story from last week of "Freebie gone bad".
Alcohol and TG not always good combination. This girl in not a WG - different standard - sometimes applicable to TGs who occasionally freelance.
I didn't say anything after that. A minute later she gets up and says: what are you doing!. why are you doing this to me, I thought you were a nice guy. I dont like it when a man controls me.
Oh not the silent treatment - they can be passive aggressive with you, but the other way round .... not on.
Then she goes on repeats the same stuff and says, "Why did you grab my hair, I dont want a man to control me". Grab her hair!!! I do that all the time playfully with a girl. Apparently the hair grab ticked her off for some reason. It was about 10pm now, she got dressed and left.
So the hair is special (sometimes) - ask permission to touch hair, to kiss etc. In response, TGs usually sort of pout at you, you a short rock of the head from side to side and say: Yeeess! They feel like they are in control, I think.
Yheesh! what a turn of events. I SMSed her right after; said sorry twice. She replied and said: I want to forget about and and I think you were really drunk, so its ok.
She gives you the chance not to lose face, saves face herself. Being drunk is not cool in the LOS.
Suntangh R
09-11-09, 13:42
SOP Thailand, I was kind of surprised that there weren't 5 or 6 more guys doing the flip-flop cha-cha on the dude after he was down & out. Also SOP LOS. (They must have known it was being vdo'd)
The guy was arguing about a drink he said he paid for and never got. Expensive drink (that he still didn't get.)
Raising your voice to Thais never amounts to anything good.I saw the video and it was very unpleasant! His behaviour was uncouth and uncivil, but the response was inappropriate; no, thats a mild word, it was Barbaric. This shows that these folks take strength in numbers, and gain courage from. Were he alone, the Thai would not have dared it. There runs a streak of cowardice and hysteria amongst the Thais.
I do not expect many to agree, but I see some animosity amongst these people towards farangs. They may be earning a good livelihood, in manners diverse, from the farang tourists. Their ways of earning that kind of money is perverted and they hate the farangs for that. An important reason would be seeing their women being used in the rampant sex industry, mutual consent notwithstanding.
I don't want to sound prophetic or ominous, but over years to come you are bound to see some serious changes in attitude amongst the Thais, and especially towards sexual adventurism.
I would be keen to hear the opinions of guys who have spent many years in these parts.
I don't want to sound prophetic or ominous, but over years to come you are bound to see some serious changes in attitude amongst the Thais, and especially towards sexual adventurism.
What kind of serious change? How many years is in "over years to come?"
M P Lurker
09-11-09, 18:27
I do not expect many to agree, but I see some animosity amongst these people towards farangs. They may be earning a good livelihood, in manners diverse, from the farang tourists. Their ways of earning that kind of money is perverted and they hate the farangs for that. An important reason would be seeing their women being used in the rampant sex industry, mutual consent notwithstanding.
Its great that women have a means of making ends meet through selling sex. Otherwise they would be very poor and many are. Sex industry is also for Thai men if they can afford it.
Old guys get to experience young hot girls that they never would have had in a more puritanical place.
Plenty of Thai girls reach orgasm showing that they can enjoy their work too, even if not all the time.
I don't want to sound prophetic or ominous, but over years to come you are bound to see some serious changes in attitude amongst the Thais, and especially towards sexual adventurism.
I would be keen to hear the opinions of guys who have spent many years in these parts.
Things change suprisingly little over 15 years other than the price.
...An important reason would be seeing their women being used in the rampant sex industry, mutual consent notwithstanding.
I don't want to sound prophetic or ominous, but over years to come you are bound to see some serious changes in attitude amongst the Thais, and especially towards sexual adventurism.
I would be keen to hear the opinions of guys who have spent many years in these parts.
Well I have spent many years so, and I can tell you, the Thais who matter - middle class and above, couldn't care less what dark-skinned Isaan girls do. They are so far below them in the social scale they simply don't identify with them at all. Which is really why the whole for-farang sex industry has been allowed to develop. They're basically renting us what they consider to be their livestock. It would be as if a foreign element were coming to the USA to fuck black women - do you really think that the dominant group would feel someone were 'stealing their women'. No.
Of course Thai men have their own type of prostitutes, but they tend to be totally different from ours - they like a totally different type. Most are from the North or homegrown (central Thai), and they tend to cost much more than ours do. They have very light skin, look demure, are very young, and provide no service. The typical Thai middle class man would find our girls unbearable crass and low, and no amount of pornographic service would make up for this. He fantasizes about forcibly deflowering a 'good' girl from a decent background, or a reasonable facsimile thereof. What we do in Pattaya is seen as not unlike smearing ourselves with shit by the middle class Thai.
However they do feel embarrassed that Pattaya exists, and it is most definitely under threat. If the poors from Isaan all went to Sihanoukville to make money draining farangs, Thais wouldn't be nearly so embarrassed about it, I suspect.
As for what ordinary working-class Isaan men feel about it I couldn't say, as I have never known any of those.
Jackson,
That video was posted over 3 months ago, and discussed in detail, so why is it allowed back again with all its related discussion ?
We now have people asking opinions about Thailand.
Can all this "rubbish" be moved off the Bangkok reports thread, and into the "Expat Section" where they can discuss Thai's and Thai's Girls and Politics and Opinions and Fighting and everything else they want, and not clog up the threads over here.
I saw the video and it was very unpleasant! His behaviour was uncouth and uncivil, but the response was inappropriate; no, thats a mild word, it was Barbaric. This shows that these folks take strength in numbers, and gain courage from. Were he alone, the Thai would not have dared it. There runs a streak of cowardice and hysteria amongst the Thais.
I do not expect many to agree, but I see some animosity amongst these people towards farangs. They may be earning a good livelihood, in manners diverse, from the farang tourists. Their ways of earning that kind of money is perverted and they hate the farangs for that. An important reason would be seeing their women being used in the rampant sex industry, mutual consent notwithstanding.
I don't want to sound prophetic or ominous, but over years to come you are bound to see some serious changes in attitude amongst the Thais, and especially towards sexual adventurism.
I would be keen to hear the opinions of guys who have spent many years in these parts.
I do not expect many to agree, but I see some animosity amongst these people towards farangs.Gee, ya think? (I was going to say a whole bunch of sarcastic stuff here, but I'll spare you this time.)
Since Thaksin Shinawatra took office as Prime Minister of Thailand some years ago, the name of the game has been xenophobia towards farangs. (Thaksin lived in America, and knows what happens when you have equalization of the masses. He was not amused.) It did NOT used to be that way.
It is indeed getting worse, much worse, and many old fart Thai guys I know don't know what to make of it. But, the reality of it all is based on keeping the poor people 'dick in the dirt' poor, and the rich riding in chauffeur driven Mercedes limos and fortified with princely sized bank accounts. Middle class Thailand is not real Thailand! (Pure Thaksin) Well now: Farangs do not like this idea at all, of course, and represent a strong opposing force to it. Ta Da! Presto! Simple as manufacturing a low class form of xenophobia based on strong ideas created by a corrupt Prime Minister for his supporting public. It is now nationwide.
I could go on and on about this, but it won't do anyone here any good. Just understand that it is now a part of life for Thais to have an underlayment of disregard and contempt of farangs. However, yes, this is just a very basic understanding of the "why", but it did essentially start with Thaksin Shinawatra.
Again, it did NOT used to be like this. Not even remotely. The Supreme Monarch of Thailand is an American, he has a US passport, and he speaks English perfectly with an mild Boston American accent. He loves America & Europe (and all of the west.) He is not the one controlling the country any more. You do the math.
Suntangh R
09-12-09, 09:38
Jackson,
That video was posted over 3 months ago, and discussed in detail, so why is it allowed back again with all its related discussion ?
We now have people asking opinions about Thailand.
Can all this "rubbish" be moved off the Bangkok reports thread, and into the "Expat Section" where they can discuss Thai's and Thai's Girls and Politics and Opinions and Fighting and everything else they want, and not clog up the threads over here.Improves your GK. Knowledge always improve class.
Why are you so quick on the draw?
Again, it did NOT used to be like this. Not even remotely.
What did it used to be like and when did this change take place?
Of course Thai men have their own type of prostitutes, but they tend to be totally different from ours - they like a totally different type. Most are from the North or homegrown (central Thai), and they tend to cost much more than ours do................ What we do in Pattaya is seen as not unlike smearing ourselves with shit by the middle class Thai.
I think a lot of foreginers like this type as well, but the thais don't make it easily available to farang. Kinda like in Japan.
Playing in the shit hole can be fun too. Kinda like being a kid again. Didn't really care if you got dirty!
bangkok post 1
arriving to bkk friday afternoon from hong kong. despite a nice night with a philippine girl i picked up at the amazonia club in wanchai i am getting excited before my first evening this trip in bangkok. she had recently been laid off from an electronics plant and had come to hong kong together with here cousin who had been here before. nice girl, very gf experience. nice natural tits to hold on to when fucking here from behind. good bj. tite pussy. gave here 1500 hkd – far to much – but she had a really good attitude. never asked for money.
stayed at the wifi hotel on 366 lockhart road. nice clean and no questions asked. booked through expedia.com.
well, in bkk and ready for exploration. the upgrade to business on the thai flight charged my battery.
i’m in bkk for business but not until tuesday apart for the visit to my tailor to pick up some new shirts and a suite and also to catch up on my email. by the way, if anyone wants a recommendation to a good tailor you are welcome to pm me. not the cheapest but good work and quality with affordable prices.
first evening was mostly bar hopping. went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a bj – first experience for me – but not the last. it wasn’t very crowded. about 10-12 girls outside. learning from isg i didn’t decide on the youngest but a mid-range girl. didn’t catch her name. it was an average bbbj cim but i guess the experience with the bj bar concept made me extra excited so it didn’t take to long for me to come.
today i will go to my tailor and then maybe a massage.
keep you posted!
bangkok post 1
arriving to bkk friday afternoon from hong kong. despite a nice night with a philippine girl i picked up at the amazonia club in wanchai i am getting excited before my first evening this trip in bangkok. she had recently been laid off from an electronics plant and had come to hong kong together with here cousin who had been here before. nice girl, very gf experience. nice natural tits to hold on to when fucking here from behind. good bj. tite pussy. gave here 1500 hkd – far to much – but she had a really good attitude. never asked for money.
stayed at the wifi hotel on 366 lockhart road. nice clean and no questions asked. booked through expedia.com.
well, in bkk and ready for exploration. the upgrade to business on the thai flight charged my battery.
i’m in bkk for business but not until tuesday apart for the visit to my tailor to pick up some new shirts and a suite and also to catch up on my email. by the way, if anyone wants a recommendation to a good tailor you are welcome to pm me. not the cheapest but good work and quality with affordable prices.
first evening was mostly bar hopping. went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a bj – first experience for me – but not the last. it wasn’t very crowded. about 10-12 girls outside. learning from isg i didn’t decide on the youngest but a mid-range girl. didn’t catch her name. it was an average bbbj cim but i guess the experience with the bj bar concept made me extra excited so it didn’t take to long for me to come.
today i will go to my tailor and then maybe a massage.
keep you posted!
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I think a lot of foreginers like this type as well, but the thais don't make it easily available to farang. Kinda like in Japan.
Yes, lots of guys like that demure teen cutey type. As for me I hate that type - useless to me. I can't even fit my dick into them more often than not. But they're readily available if you're willing to pay the high price (and its the same high price the rich Thais pay).
Jackson,
That video was posted over 3 months ago, and discussed in detail, so why is it allowed back again with all its related discussion ?
We now have people asking opinions about Thailand.
Can all this "rubbish" be moved off the Bangkok reports thread, and into the "Expat Section" where they can discuss Thai's and Thai's Girls and Politics and Opinions and Fighting and everything else they want, and not clog up the threads over here.
You don't have to be embarrassed. It it is you in the video, just tell us.
What did it used to be like and when did this change take place?
Perhaps by googling Thaksin you'll get an idea as to the timing.
Member #3428
09-12-09, 16:24
This has been said to me many times hehe.
Anyone have any special, perhaps medicated, shampoo to have the dual purpose of keeping the ol' weiner fresh and also assisting in fighting the nasty germies?
Sorry, I knew I remember reading a post about this but didn't have time to search for this until now. Soap Fan reports using Lactacyid (local and UK product I believe), I never tried it myself but use an antifungal pill if I need it.
"Lactacyid is a good local product to use to wash the crotch. It is very mildly acidic which protects against yeast and fungal infections (like thrush) otherwise easy to catch in humid climates. Normal soap is not good in the crotch area. Fungals love the alkalinity of soap."
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=485363&postcount=611
OMG... three years ago this was posted and I remember it... I should take up golf instead of mongering :D
M P Lurker
09-12-09, 17:40
Sorry, I knew I remember reading a post about this but didn't have time to search for this until now. Soap Fan reports using Lactacyid (local and UK product I believe), I never tried it myself but use an antifungal pill if I need it.
"Lactacyid is a good local product to use to wash the crotch. It is very mildly acidic which protects against yeast and fungal infections (like thrush) otherwise easy to catch in humid climates. Normal soap is not good in the crotch area. Fungals love the alkalinity of soap."
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=485363&postcount=611
OMG... three years ago this was posted and I remember it... I should take up golf instead of mongering :D
Sorry I spelt the product name incorrectly.
Should have been Lactacyd (available in most Pharmacies and even in some 7-Eleven stores).
Although may appear intended for females (pink colouring on some bottles), a non perfumed variety is/was available.
It is very weakly acidic and used instead of soap helps keep away fungal things that can arise from sticky jocks due to heat and humidity. Alternatively you could vinegar in your bath but this is impractical.
I managed to get a fungal infection on early trip to Thailand. So now am careful. Change underwear often and when gets damp. Use Lactacyd instead of (or after) regular soap (or shower gel) in genital and arse region.
P.S. Sometimes guys have itchy crotch causes by fungals even if can't see anything. These can be passed on to the girl during sex. But she will be taking precautions too if smart.
Member #3428
09-13-09, 02:27
Having found a freebie MP girl who can do the dirty with me as much as I enjoy… I’ve spent a lot of time with her and I’ve had to reconsider my Soapie type opinion. First of all, NicFrenchy saw this girl, she is older, higher 20’s pushing 30. She isn’t fat but she isn’t skinny either. When I get a chance I’ll see about posting a picture after I can edit some. I did talk to her about the postings and she at first said OK for her picture and number and shop to be listed but after we continued she asked not to post her picture or real name or name she works under. She is not lacking in customers that is for sure as her phone goes off more then my phone goes off but it is work asking her to come in for booking not customers directly reaching her. It’s nice when you get to a level in a relationship where both of you can open up your contacts and have conversations with other people while you are together :D She just left as she knows I have three girls coming over from Pattaya today to spend with me.
This lady, she irons my clothes, from shirts to socks to under ware. After walking back around town and I sit down at the desk she will get a cold towel and wash off my neck and face and such. She will massage my neck while I am typing. She gives me the first really enjoyable sopaie experience in the tub in the room (could be no time issues, could be it is not scripted, could be that we have chemistry, could be a lot of reasons but it really is the first super enjoyable sopaie experience I’ve had), she showers me completely, she makes me tea or coffee all the time, she gives me a half way decent regular massage on bed, etc… This lady just really takes care of you 100%. I’m not talking just sex, the sex is great she has skills off the chart. She started the action this morning earlier on her own and got me going like an 18 year old and I don’t need much help but dang if this lady does not just totally screw the hell out of you as you just lay there :D And hey, she made my bed before she left as she knows the other girls are coming over. Now that is service.
I tried to pay her before and she gave me the old story how I am insulting her. She told me that who she is with outside work is her business and that she chooses to come to spend time with me. Yes I had a booking with her to find her, but she came out on the side with me on her own. She just left my room now and last night we went shopping at Tesco for general life items for me (picked some items up for her also), earlier in the day we went over to Pantip, she shopped at Fashion Mall while I was over at Pantip, I did give her money to shop for some clothes, but before this I had not given her any money. And I gotta tell you, I’m 40, she is upper 20’s pushing 30, so our age is not like we are a 60 year old punter walking around with an 18 year old.
So now I have a regular girl at 4 MP’s in Bangkok that I can see on the outside or inside, today is the B Day for one of the girls (second MP girl this trip that has a B Day). It is a shame I won’t be able to make it as she promised a lot. But I should start to rethink my position on Soapies as having my nails cut by her and the constant attention has been pretty nice, also I love the fact that she knows I am a big butterfly and is accepting of this for now… and whoever ends up with these four girls will be well taken care of if they can get over the fact that they worked a MP / soapie before. These are all nice ladies, wish I could keep them all.
I’m sure many guys will attest to the way that Soapie girls can take care of a guy when they want to and it is outside work and they put forward all their job skills because they WANT to take care of guy. I might have to invest more time into soapies to find other girls like this. But I am seriously needing to get a booking agent as making time for all the girls is getting difficult and god am I tired lately. There also is something a little flattering about a girl who works with a customer, then wants to come over to have sex just for having good sex and enjoyment with you. At first I did not like the fact that she would want to come to me after finishing with a customer but after a while, she told me that I have sex with other girls so what is wrong with her working a job. She only works a job for money to support family. She asked me if I wanted to support her fully or if I wanted to enjoy a relationship with her? If I want to support her then OK she stop work, if I not want to support her then understand that it is only work for her and that is all it is. Hey, she has a point.
Will try to catch up on reports later after recovering…
LittleBigMan
09-13-09, 03:26
Tansak KTV,
Wonder what happen to you after Pattaya, you kind of fell off the map thinking you fell in Love or something happen to you. Three girls from Pattaya coming to visit I guess think wasn't as bad in Pattaya after all still I know it's no Bangkok.
LBM
Member #3428
09-13-09, 03:49
Tansak KTV,
Wonder what happen to you after Pattaya, you kind of fell off the map thinking you fell in Love or something happen to you. Three girls from Pattaya coming to visit I guess think wasn't as bad in Pattaya after all still I know it's no Bangkok.
LBM
LBM... it was great to see you, I have a draft Pattaya report, but have been busy for a while. A few days in BKK before going to pattaya till now I've been kind of busy around the clock :D :D have a few reports to file still.
Three Pattaya Girls just showed up in BKK to visit with me, right after my MP girl left... My scheduling so far is perfect...
I have to admire all your actions with the girls. Just trying to figure out when you find time to work and sleep.
I have got to stop reading these reports. It is so hard to wait until I can visit Thailand.
Lover Boy #2
09-13-09, 05:33
Tanks, however methinks that video's a fake.
Many internet experts are calling it a fake too, if you search around. I'm not sure.
Many internet experts are calling it a fake too, if you search around. I'm not sure.Yeah, I am inclined to agree with Nic here, there is something about this thing that doesn't look right. The way the guy goes down for one, and the voices in the background don't sound right either.
In fact there are other reasons why it doesn't look like a real Thai takedown. Too clean. If you have experienced the real deal here before, you know it's not at all like this video clip. It's always dirty, sweaty, messy, blood, teeth, people yelling etc. Scary stuff.
This looks like it could have been staged.
LittleBigMan
09-13-09, 10:03
Csun213,
The guy doesn't sleep! Sex is exercise for him that's why is lost a 100 lbs!
LBM
M P Lurker
09-13-09, 10:45
At first I did not like the fact that she would want to come to me after finishing with a customer but after a while, she told me that I have sex with other girls so what is wrong with her working a job. She only works a job for money to support family. She asked me if I wanted to support her fully or if I wanted to enjoy a relationship with her? If I want to support her then OK she stop work, if I not want to support her then understand that it is only work for her and that is all it is. Hey, she has a point.
Yeh, and I thought her point was so obvious!
Too everyone: So don't be a jealous bestard!
Can't complain if she wants to see you for free!
But you are worried she might enjoy her work too much, right ;)? So what? Thai working girls can often enjoy a good fuck even if they claim its just for money. If they didn't enjoy it, and seemed just mechanical, I wouldn't bother with them.
The key point is you enjoy screwing with multiple girls and many girls enjoy screwing with multiple guys. Some believe they should have just one man (probably due to social brainwashing/conditioning and wanting to be considered a "good girl").
The nature of the beast (including humans) is to screw around. Trying to deny this is what causes most of the problems, right? The right path is too accept this. But since society doesn't accept it, watch out for the ducks.
Member #3428
09-13-09, 11:48
The guy doesn't sleep! Sex is exercise for him that's why is lost a 100 lbs!
Well I can sleep at work or on the plane or other country where the girls are not so nice to me. And jing jing I did lose 100 lbs, Thailand is a great fitness plan :D
I have to admire all your actions with the girls. Just trying to figure out when you find time to work and sleep.
I have got to stop reading these reports. It is so hard to wait until I can visit Thailand.
I wait for when I am travelling or not mongering to read your reports ;) But why sleep or such when in LOS??? Seriously a few cat naps and keep going...
Should have been Lactacyd (available in most Pharmacies and even in some 7-Eleven stores).
I just looked, at 7-eleven store and Pharmacy right by my hotel so should be all over if anyone is interested. There is a white bottle and a pink bottle that I saw. Pharmacy had a BIG bottle 7/11 only had little bottle.
Member #3428
09-13-09, 11:56
But you are worried she might enjoy her work too much, right ;)?
Actually no, I am not worried about it as I resolved this before in my mongering career. I have a few girls that I know or knew that want a good screw even if they are working. I just had a hard time of her screwing a customer then coming over immediately to screw me. I had a hold up in my head over this, the immediate screw and then come back to screw me. But since she showed me that I could screw a girl then come screw her then what is the difference.
The difference is that I usually pay for it (even if it is a gik) and I finish, and that she get's paid but rarely finishes. :D
She has actually been a great teacher even working on some more techniques with me :D . She does not mind me screwing other girls, just does not want me to screw her friends, asks that I do not ask her to do a lady show with her friends and me, and would rather I not screw in her shop. She did tell me she would want me to limit who i screw with but she told me she knows I will never be with one lady only.
M P Lurker
09-13-09, 12:19
She has actually been a great teacher even working on some more techniques with me :D . She does not mind me screwing other girls, just does not want me to screw her friends, asks that I do not ask her to do a lady show with her friends and me, and would rather I not screw in her shop. She did tell me she would want me to limit who i screw with but she told me she knows I will never be with one lady only.
I am always greatly indebted to my first Thai GF who gave me detailed tutoring on DATY, hopefully taking me from average into expert class.
I have also lerned a lot about G spot stimulation with Thai girls as victims. I am not sure the G spot have ever been heard of back when I was in early 20s.
It always possible to learn and keep improving.
But I learned long ago, its best to stick to one girl per venue, if you want to be treated really "special". Most girls (but not all) are psychologically affected if you screw her friends too.
There have been several (or many) times in our lives when we are very attracted to the girl's friend. I have mostly managed to persuade myself to leave this alone.
One ex-GF Nat was extremely jealous type and I really had the hots for her close friend Gae because of her pretty face and fantastic bubbly personality, even though Gae was somewhat overweight by my normal standards. This was a very tough trial which I survived, but always wondered if Gae would have been the better choice for a GF, despite never having tried her.
Member #3428
09-13-09, 17:16
It always possible to learn and keep improving.
This is always my thought... I'd like to learn more new each day :D
Well I have spent many years so, and I can tell you, the Thais who matter. Middle class and above, couldn't care less what dark-skinned Isaan girls do. They are so far below them in the social scale they simply don't identify with them at all. Which is really why the whole for-farang sex industry has been allowed to develop. They're basically renting us what they consider to be their livestock. It would be as if a foreign element were coming to the USA to fuck black women. Do you really think that the dominant group would feel someone were 'stealing their women'. No.
Of course Thai men have their own type of prostitutes, but they tend to be totally different from ours. They like a totally different type. Most are from the North or homegrown (central Thai), and they tend to cost much more than ours do. They have very light skin, look demure, are very young, and provide no service. The typical Thai middle class man would find our girls unbearable crass and low, and no amount of pornographic service would make up for this. He fantasizes about forcibly deflowering a 'good' girl from a decent background, or a reasonable facsimile thereof. What we do in Pattaya is seen as not unlike smearing ourselves with shit by the middle class Thai.
However they do feel embarrassed that Pattaya exists, and it is most definitely under threat. If the poors from Isaan all went to Sihanoukville to make money draining farangs, Thais wouldn't be nearly so embarrassed about it, I suspect.
As for what ordinary working-class Isaan men feel about it I couldn't say, as I have never known any of those.You are right opebo, but I noticed you just talk (voluntary or not? ) about middle class and upper class, as an experienced monger in Thailand, you know that low class of thai people, like factory workers, employee etc those with 5000 to 8000 baths a month can t afford the kind of the girls you describe. So, this people have also their own brothels, chicken farms filled mainly with illegal immigrants and Isaan girls, at very low prices, and here too it s totally different than farang scene
I think you will be agree with me if I said the farang scene is like a disneyland created especialy for them
Cheers
Csun213,
The guy doesn't sleep! Sex is exercise for him that's why is lost a 100 lbs!
LBM
I think I am going to try what he does. It would be a great way to lose weight.;)
Hi all,
My first time in Thailand, and figured I would give a brief description of my first 2 nights here in Bangkok at the lovely Dawin Hotel, very close to the even lovelier Nana Plaza (this was coincidence. Pretty much booked a hotel at random).
Ok then, first night, after a long and tiring flight, I wandered down to the plaza at about 9pm. Walked around looking at all the shiny things for about a minute before a stunning girl approached me and offered to buy me a drink. Off to a good start here.
Instantly infatuated, I followed her to a seat at a bar in the middle of the ground floor (didn't get the name. Had better things to look at). She got me a drink as promised (Tiger. Lovely), and I offered to buy her one in return which she was very grateful for.
Anyway, we talked and drank for a while, I really liked her so I asked her to come back to my hotel for the night, and she eagerly accepted. Bar fine: 600baht. Drinks: 500baht. Tip for the guy in the bathroom: 20baht. She bought some nuts and oysters which we shared.
The subject of money never came up with her which I liked a lot. Real GFE from her. More so than even some of my past girlfriends I'm sorry to say.
Got back to the hotel, had a shower together and got straight to business. She had said earlier that she hadn't worked at that place for long, and I took this with a pinch of salt, but it showed through her inexperience. She said she had only been with three guys before and I wasn't hard-pressed to believe her. Anyway, she more than made up for this with enthusiasm and general cuteness. (I prefer an inexperienced girl to one who's been fucked so many times she no longer cares, personally).
Fucked her only once before going to sleep (but it was long). Woke up at the crack of dawn (jetlag) to fuck her again. Felt bad waking her up, but she got back to sleep soon enough.
Happily, she stayed all that day until she had to start work again at 5:30. Fucked her 6 times total.
She dolled up and got ready to go, still having not asked for money. Being a very satisfied customer I slipped her 3, 000 baht just as she was going out the door, and she was very pleased. Gave me a hug, told me to come back to see her again, and left.
Very very happy with my first experience in LOS, I decided to try Nana Plaza again that night, strongly considering bar fining that girl again (don't know her name) if she was around.
Didn't get there 'til about 11 (had to recover a bit first.), didn't see her so decided to check out a go-go bar since I hadn't had the chance the night before. Went into Rainbow 1, being the closest (probably not the best policy, but what the hell, not like I know any better).
Line-up on stage was OK. I see what people mean now by the 'Bangkok shuffle'. Funny stuff, not exactly a turn-on for me. Sat there nursing a beer for ages, nothing particularly piqued my interest until what must have been about 12, when I spotted "Number 25". Fairly small girl (my thing), bolt-on C cups (I'd never been with a girl with fake boobs before, believe it or not, so was interested to try) and a gorgeous ass. Not as pretty as the girl from the night before, but enough to interest me.
Called her over and bought her one drink. Wasn't really in the mood for sitting around making conversation (especially since the music is too loud to do so), although she did have excellent English. Also the drinks are incredibly expensive there. 135baht per beer. Not sure how much her Fanta was, I think the same. Said she'd worked there one year. Asked her if she liked it and she kind of waved her hand in an unconvincing manner.
Anyway, called a girl over to pay for the drinks and barfine. She says I have to pay for the girl upfront, they have a set rate. Turn-off. Oh well.
How much?
4000 baht long time, 600baht barfine.
God dammit!
Couldn't be bothered finding an equally nice girl for less money by that time, so paid it and took the girl back to my hotel. You only live once.
She was a pleasant enough girl but I didn't really click with her. Wasn't in a talking mood anyway, unlike the night before. Got straight to business.
She insisted on only CBJ, so I let her suck a condom for a few seconds before putting it in her. She climaxed after 15-20 minutes, and was obviously in pain after this (small Thai girls are not built for big farang cock). Took pity on the poor girl and took it out. As consolation she broke her CBJ rule and gave a decent BBBJ until I came on her fake tits (they looked good, but did not feel so good). She went and had a shower, and came back complaining of stomach pain (maybe I did some internal damage there.).
Said she wanted to get some medicine and go home.
Ergh.
Told her if she gave me 2, 000 baht back she could go (2000 is the price for short-time at Rainbow 1, and she was with me for over 2 hours so seemed reasonable-ish). She gladly accepted.
I doubt she just wanted to go back to work since it was about 3am by this point, but who knows.
Long story short, first girl was well worth the 3, 600baht long-time (incl barfine). Second was not worth the 2, 600baht short-time (incl barfine). Not a fan of short-time since I take a long time to finish (I'm young). Just about impossible to get 2 pops I think. Also this girl was not nearly so girlfriend-ish. Think I will steer clear of go-go bars for a little while at least.
First report. Hope it wasn't too rambling/unhelpful/pointless.
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FreebieFan
09-14-09, 02:24
Having found a freebie MP girl who can do the dirty with me as much as I enjoy… I’ve spent a lot of time with her and I’ve had to reconsider my Soapie type opinion. First of all, NicFrenchy saw this girl, she is older, higher 20’s pushing 30.
This lady, she irons my clothes, from shirts to socks to under ware. After walking back around town and I sit down at the desk she will get a cold towel and wash off my neck and face and such. She will massage my neck while I am typing. She gives me the first really enjoyable sopaie experience in the tub in the room (could be no time issues, could be it is not scripted, could be that we have chemistry, could be a lot of reasons but it really is the first super enjoyable sopaie experience I’ve had), she showers me completely, she makes me tea or coffee all the time, she gives me a half way decent regular massage on bed, etc… This lady just really takes care of you 100%.
…Remember my first trip to BKK many many years ago. Had a lady from the Kings club bar in Patpong ( when it was fun )..anyways she stayed LT and I remember waking up and shes not only washed the shirt I wore the night before but shes gone thru my suitcase and ironed all the pants and shirts in it. Even tidied up the bathroom.
Ah, the Good Old Days
bangkok post 2
had a slow day. some email and shopping.
started the evening at one of the bars outside nana watching football and drinking a couple of beer. only small talk with a couple of the girls. not very crowded. already decided i wanted a repeat visit to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). headed over there, a beer to have time to decide which hostess to go with. started talking with a fellow countryman and soon a second appeared from upstairs – he just received his birthday present – now – that is a good present! they headed off to bangkok beat (soi 7) and i went upstairs with my choice – this time a mid 20: s – much better than last night but still only a little bit above average – anyway – i still gave her a full load.
i also steered towards bangkok beat. i good band was playing and the place was actually crowded. finally hooked up with a nice, cute and very petit lady – 26 years – that said she only went out drinking once every month. that might be correct because she was drinking like she was trying to catch up. finally i decided to drop here, first because she would probably just fall to sleep and secondly and didn't want to risk waking up with here and she not remembering how she ended up in my bed. at 2 i walked out on the street and stopped by subway for a sandwich. started talking with two freelancers and i took them both. one was 36 and a nice body and face, the other was more like a single bagger however a really nice pair of tits. while filling the jacussi with water they both got over me and started a dual bbbj. i stopped them short and and entered the 36 year old from the back laying on her side so that the other could take turns licking her pussy and sucking my dick. then a doggy and boy i was struggling to not blow – good with the visit to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) earlier. we continued in the jacussi with some hj and then back to bed. at this time the one with the nicer tits wanted to leave which was ok with me. so, with my dick in the 36 year mouth i give her the 2000 we agreed for and a 500 tip. we then continued and at 5 we both where completely exhausted. slept until 2 (had to go to the tailor at 3) and she left giving me here phone number in case i wanted a repeat. i have other plans for the coming nights but you never know!
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I just came back from BKK
Managed to get away from the wife for a few hours in the evening so I decided to try out La Belle, however the traffic was horrendous so decided to grab the MRT and head off to Caesars
When I reached Caesars it was pouring outside, I mean really pouring !!
Once inside Caesars, the FB was almost empty, only 2 girls in there and there must be abt 20-25 sideliners sitting.
I spoke to the Papasan and told him I wanted a Soapy. He initially said only FB does Soapy and Sideliners normally don't. But he called over a girl and asked her if she would do a soapy and she agreed. [THis should have been my first sign that this was a bad idea, if they normally don't do soapys the service would be bad]
Anyways, into the room and the Soapy was not at all what I expected, I saw the videos on soapymassage.com and they were completely different. The service on the bad was average, BBBJ was acceptable, and we had a few positions.
Overall, probably will not repeat Caesars next time I'm in BKK
Lady : # 95 can't remember her name
Looks : 7/10
Service : Soapy 3/10 overall 6/10
Price : 4000 B + 500 B for soapy. I assume this includes a Farang charge
Hopefully next visit to BKK will be better
S
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Caesars .../... a Soapy.
Price : 4000 B + 500 B for soapyWow 4500, and it was average? I guess it's overpriced?
Can one you guys tell us the best price for a good one?
...as an experienced monger in Thailand, you know that low class of thai people, like factory workers, employee etc those with 5000 to 8000 baths a month can t afford the kind of the girls you describe. So, this people have also their own brothels, chicken farms filled mainly with illegal immigrants and Isaan girls, at very low prices...
Yes, but nowadays in many areas these cheap brothels or chicken farms are closed down and no longer exist.
M P Lurker
09-15-09, 15:29
I just came back from BKK
Managed to get away from the wife for a few hours in the evening so I decided to try out La Belle, however the traffic was horrendous so decided to grab the MRT and head off to Caesars
Caesar's is a known rip-off place. Not recommended unless you are East Asian.
You could have got soapy body slide at Nataree, Emmanuelle, or High Class much cheaper and better across the road nearby. These 3 places are recommended, if you take experienced girls (not newbie girls).
See the Map:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.776734,100.576701&spn=0.010879,0.017166&z=16
Yes, but nowadays in many areas these cheap brothels or chicken farms are closed down and no longer exist.The "chicken farms" still exist. You'll just have to look for them. Harder to do for farangs, since a lot of these girls are use to getting filled with smaller cocks.
On a different subject, if a TG has a smelly pussy that means she has a Thai BF who is pumping her full of his dirty cum everyday. She is either to cheap to buy tablets to stick up there or just too stupid to know such meds exists. So the next time you Bar fine a TG and she has a smelly one, just know that she is lying when she says "no boyfriend". :)
It seems that the current administration has so much other bs to deal with that they do care about placing restrictions on bar closing hrs, working girls, etc., so party on.
An cheaper alternative to the bigger soapie massage is to go to suk. Soi 22-32 and go to one of these small massages. Most of the time the girls are just as hot as the soapies, but less expensive. And in some case you actually get a real massage before the "special". 400B for 1hr and 1500 FS for a total of 1900B. same girl would cost 2600B (FS)+200B (tips) at bigger soapies.
Remember no drugs in Thailand, regardless of what other farangs tell you about paying cops off. Sometimes money does not work, then you're SOL.
M P Lurker
09-16-09, 02:07
On a different subject, if a TG has a smelly pussy that means she has a Thai BF who is pumping her full of his dirty cum everyday. She is either to cheap to buy tablets to stick up there or just too stupid to know such meds exists. So the next time you Bar fine a TG and she has a smelly one, just know that she is lying when she says "no boyfriend". :)
:eek: laughable logic!
Member #4537
09-16-09, 02:32
:eek: laughable logic!
The guy cumming inside her pussy doesn't have to be Thai.
...if a TG has a smelly pussy that means she has a Thai BF who is pumping her full of his dirty cum everyday...
Total racist nonsense.
A smelly pussy is indicative of an infection or poor hygene -- not a Thai boyfriend.
here is my meager contribution.
landed saturday, and started walking down sukumvitt on the odd soi side. at soi 3 -5 the ladies were out in force. actually found a very good looking gal who claimed to be 32yr old. interviewed her as far as services were concerned and we agreed on price (1000bht) and services to be performed.
when she took her clothes off my only complaint was that she had a heavily padded bra so what i saw was not what i got. however, was not bad choice overall and she did give excellent service. bumped into her a number of times when i would make my rounds. name was may
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s on soi 8 was a big disappointment. it is self-evident from the gals they must dine exclusively at mcdees. they were awful, all pudgy and wearing outfits that are designed to conceal the pudge itself. left, fortwith.
on two occassions, had a pretty good time at the thermae cafe (hope i spelled it correctly). on my first trip met a gal who claimed to be 34 who told me she had one child. i was drawn to her because she was explaining the whole scene at the thermae. she also had on a halter and shorts that exposed some of the vital areas. she told me she exercised rigorousy (wound up meeting her at the nana parking lot and we struck a deal, great service and very good attitude).
she then explained how many of the younger girls will not ever go with a farang, most prefer japanese men. low and behold i look arount and 75-80% of the customers appeared japanese. she told me to notice how many of the
gals will not make eye contact with you, nor will they smile. the ones who do smile and make eye contact (usually the older ones) "will go with farang."
sure enought, the next night i approached a younger gal in the receiving line and she pretended she could not speak english. in turn, i questioned her professional ethics and, low and behold, she spewed forth a number of comments - in english.
nana and soi cowboy are what they are. i have managed to get lucky there once and a while.
it seems the best time is the nana parking lot around 1-2:30am. my last evening in bankok before going to pattay i was in the lot at around 2am ready to call it quits when i bumped into this gal who looked good with a great attitude. she spoke little english, but that turned out to be the charming part. she turned out having a great little body and was just a lot of fun in bed. she actually tried to initiate some serious french kissing but, time/place being what it is, i tried to avoid this. got her number and will definitely look her up when i return.
one odd situation, went to rainbow 4 and asked if i could go in and look around. i always explain that if i see a gal i like i will buy her a drink. most places have no problem with this. at rainbow 4 the waitress called over the manager real quick and demanded that i either buy a drink or leave. the manager out and out tried to intimadate me into buying a drink. i was upset because my cardinal rule is always to be a gentleman, especially in such situations. avoid this place, it has the smell of trouble.
it all appears all hit or miss.
The "chicken farms" still exist. You'll just have to look for them. Harder to do for farangs, since a lot of these girls are use to getting filled with smaller cocks.
On a different subject, if a TG has a smelly pussy that means she has a Thai BF who is pumping her full of his dirty cum everyday. She is either to cheap to buy tablets to stick up there or just too stupid to know such meds exists. So the next time you Bar fine a TG and she has a smelly one, just know that she is lying when she says "no boyfriend". :)
Ignorance and racism go hand in hand.
I think RAINBOX 4 is the 2nd floor of the NANA entertainment complex. They have a put up or shut up attitude. I think this place is not worth dropping by. They seem to have the most girls but even the girls have an attitude. I did buy a drink then they suddenly brought 2 and charged me. Then the girl insists that I buy a drink for her friend. After I sniffed and went through their poor customer service, I poured half a beer on the table and left. They can all kiss my ass and so I looked for greener pastures.
LittleBigMan
09-16-09, 07:26
Total racist nonsense.
A smelly pussy is indicative of an infection or poor hygene -- not a Thai boyfriend.
Daddy07,
Maybe the fool meant that the Thai Boyfriend has poor hygiene, a dirty dick that hasn't been washed or he had badbreathe and went DATY, and that transfered the dirty smell from his rotten teeth into her pussy and stored all at that smelly gas.
Believe it or not? This is a medical fact? and don't anyone try to contradict me unless they are stupid!
LBM
Member #3428
09-16-09, 10:26
OK I'm starting to get caught up a little... I have a few reports to file like the MP girl who followed me home, my Pattaya reports... and then my conclusion in Bangkok. But for now you can review these until I can edit some pictures....
Member #3428
09-16-09, 10:32
Why post pic's here... so the wankers who only visit the photo gallery have to work a little harder... Anways these are just some of the girls from my reports... As I said have a few more to file but am backlogged as it is now...
My friend, you are lucky you didn't get your ass kicked. You should be very careful what you do in these places. Sure they might have bad customer service. But you have to look at it from Rainbow's perspective. All they want is to extract as much money as they possibly can get from you. They don't care if you are happy, if you have fun, or whatever. So what they did is business as usual for them. If you didn't like it, all you had to do was get up and walk out (after paying for your drink, of course). By spilling your drink on the bar, you are now offending them, and Thais don't like to be offended. Always remember, you are in their country. In a fight, you will always lose. Protect yourself and don't let your emotions control your words or actions. It could get you into serious trouble in this country.
I think RAINBOX 4 is the 2nd floor of the NANA entertainment complex. They have a put up or shut up attitude. I think this place is not worth dropping by. They seem to have the most girls but even the girls have an attitude. I did buy a drink then they suddenly brought 2 and charged me. Then the girl insists that I buy a drink for her friend. After I sniffed and went through their poor customer service, I poured half a beer on the table and left. They can all kiss my ass and so I looked for greener pastures.
Total racist nonsense.
A smelly pussy is indicative of an infection or poor hygene -- not a Thai boyfriend.
What he meant was bara back sex from her Thai BF. At the same time she could have got it from any number of men who did her bareback.
Fact of the matter is smell is always a sign of infection just like pain is indicative of something wrong in your body. It is always better to check the smell by playfully putting your finger in her pussy before the shower and smelling it. You can get the infection by contact , not necessarily from bareback sex.
Smell could be indicative of of simple yeast infection or more serious. Either way will not go away without treatment. Generally one doctor adviced me if it is nauseating smell do not even touch. He also told me depending on race and diet some women have a slight smell and it is normal. I have found by experience Asian women have absolutely no smell if they do not have any infection.
I think RAINBOX 4 is the 2nd floor of the NANA entertainment complex. They have a put up or shut up attitude.
What do you expect from a gogo bar that caters to mainly Japanese push overs?
I think RAINBOX 4 is the 2nd floor of the NANA entertainment complex. They have a put up or shut up attitude. I think this place is not worth dropping by. They seem to have the most girls but even the girls have an attitude. I did buy a drink then they suddenly brought 2 and charged me. Then the girl insists that I buy a drink for her friend. After I sniffed and went through their poor customer service, I poured half a beer on the table and left. They can all kiss my ass and so I looked for greener pastures.Hmm. Enchoo. A little advice from an old fart.
Rainbow 4, and any place in the world like it: Make friends with the help, a bartender, a waitress, etc. In the case of Rainbow 4: a waitress. When you first sit down, produce a big goofy grin smile, then buy the WAITRESS a drink and show her some respect. You now have created an "ally" in your quest for bar-baby perfection. Not only will she help you score, she will be quadruply attentive to you. And, you WILL HAVE FUN. And the cost? Maybe 150 Baht.
Try it next time. It works.
Word to the wise: Creating bad feelings and performing childlike rude behaviors only makes others perceive YOU to be the fool here in Thailand.
Primo Bolan
09-16-09, 20:23
I think RAINBOX 4 is the 2nd floor of the NANA entertainment complex. They have a put up or shut up attitude. I think this place is not worth dropping by. They seem to have the most girls but even the girls have an attitude. I did buy a drink then they suddenly brought 2 and charged me. Then the girl insists that I buy a drink for her friend. After I sniffed and went through their poor customer service, I poured half a beer on the table and left. They can all kiss my ass and so I looked for greener pastures.
Agree! Had a bad experience in this place a while ago. After a bad attitude- girl shouted at me about something I dont remember, the girl tried to hide her number from me so I couldn`t point her out to anyone in the staff. Im a calm guy and I was not drunk. I remember that it was alot of people in there so it was difficult anyway. Not my favorite place. PB
I think its all a bit "tongue in cheek".
Perhaps the initial post is from someone who thought his "girl" was only fcuking him and found out later she is fcuking everyone and also has a Thai boyfriend. So now he is very anti-Thai.
Happens a lot in Thailand, dumb farang men unable to "get" what goes on in Thailand and thinking they are handsum man jing jing.
Daddy07,
Maybe the fool meant that the Thai Boyfriend has poor hygiene, a dirty dick that hasn't been washed or he had badbreathe and went DATY, and that transfered the dirty smell from his rotten teeth into her pussy and stored all at that smelly gas.
Believe it or not? This is a medical fact? and don't anyone try to contradict me unless they are stupid!
LBM
SE Asia Joe
09-17-09, 03:37
Hmm. Enchoo. A little advice from an old fart.
Rainbow 4, and any place in the world like it: Make friends with the help, a bartender, a waitress, etc. In the case of Rainbow 4: a waitress. When you first sit down, produce a big goofy grin smile, then buy the WAITRESS a drink and show her some respect. You now have created an "ally" in your quest for bar-baby perfection. Not only will she help you score, she will be quadruply attentive to you. And, you WILL HAVE FUN. And the cost? Maybe 150 Baht.
Try it next time. It works.
Word to the wise: Creating bad feelings and performing childlike rude behaviors only makes others perceive YOU to be the fool here in Thailand.
Agree totally with you that rude behaviour will NOT get you anywhere but an equally rude - and perhaps even downright malicious - response. This is true anywhere in the world!
OTH - why would any one want to go to Rainbox or similar places when one has been adequately warned - as we are here being warned - against going to the place? (And here I will again espouse the need to RTFF!!).
Whilst I of course do not go along with the original's poster's way of dealing with the situation in which he found himself in, I nonetheless agree with his sentiments to instead just go to greener pasture.
Just IMHO
SEAJ
why would any one want to go to Rainbox or similar places when one has been adequately warned - as we are here being warned - against going to the place?
Um. Because the girls are hot there?
It's RainboW, not boX.
SE Asia Joe
09-17-09, 06:14
Um. Because the girls are hot there?
It's RainboW, not boX.
Like the proverbial moth to flame!!
We guys really do let our little brain do all the thinking don't we?!
Rainbox Rainbow - sorry - yes, but Enchoo did use both names in the original report. But does it really matter?
SEAJ
Was in Long Gun last night. Originally intended to take a girl from Deja Vu but it turned out it was that time of the month. I'll have to wait a few days and go back as she's got some terrific oral skills.
At Long Gun they seem to have 3 distinct sets of girls who dance separately. There is a small group of maybe 6 girls with smokin' bodies. I have been with two of them, 34 and 36 i think and they have great personalities as well. These are the ones that do the better shows and sometimes are hustled off to Rawhide to do a show or two.
There is another set of girls who i wouldn't throw out of bed, but wouldn't take unless the lights are coming on.
Lastly there is a set of shorter, chubbier girls who I wouldn't take but are fun to talk with.
Oh, and they have a Mamasan named Fon who in my opinion is incredibly hot.
Um. Because the girls are hot there?
Hot girls with poor attitude have no intrinsic value. I BF a girl from Rainbox 4 about once every 3 years to remind myself why I don't frequent NEP.
Agree totally with you that rude behaviour will NOT get you anywhere but an equally rude - and perhaps even downright malicious - response. This is true anywhere in the world!
OTH - why would any one want to go to Rainbox or similar places when one has been adequately warned - as we are here being warned - against going to the place? (And here I will again espouse the need to RTFF!!).
Whilst I of course do not go along with the original's poster's way of dealing with the situation in which he found himself in, I nonetheless agree with his sentiments to instead just go to greener pasture.
Just IMHO
SEAJNaturally.
And a bit more in the direction of Enchoo:
I have no problem at all with Rainbow 4, other than the fact that I've probably done too many chicks there over the years and the in-house jealousy factor has become somewhat of an issue. (I don't mind being called a butterfly, but creating bad feelings with the talent is a no no anywhere.)
There are a TON of smoking hot babies in R4, everybody knows it, the ratio of goodness is very possibly the best in town. But, you have to be cool, sneak up on them, get in & out early, and you have to have some sort of an edge. (Ply waitress/bartender with alcohol, speak Thai, get an intro, dress like you are headed out somewhere nice.)
So yeah, that is all part of the fun for me, not just banging some cute chick, I can do that anywhere, (go ahead, jump me for saying that, but fuck it, TIT.) It's a fun way for me to spend an evening and come out of it scoring a far above average looking hottie. Also, what I get in the room is up to me too, I make it fun and funny, tease the shit out of them, then I flip them over and give them a going over that they won't soon forget (for at least a half hour anyway.) So, in the end, I get what I need, and yeah it's that easy, and shit yeah, it's great fun.
Much of this mongering stuff is about attitude, yes?
If you can't deal with any of that, and can't prepare yourself for what may happen and how you will master the situation to your own benefit, then why even bother spinning yourself up on what will obviously be a wasted time? Hell, just mozy-dozy on over to Angelwitch, that place is great fun too, no problems, very hot sexy things in there these days as well, and no negativity (except that freakin obnoxious mamasan that wants you to buy her drinks all night.) You may very well indeed want to check that place out Enchoo.
Just don't get pissed off when you realize that you weren't really ready to play in that big dirty R4 sandbox chock full of snotty haughty girls. Just smile, then climb out, no harm - no foul. Then nobody cares, not even you.
I agree. As noted in my recent post I had a similiar bag experience in this place, luckily before I bought a drink. Simple solution, turn around and walk out, or finish your drink and leave. Then come here and make a post, that is what this board is all about.
Here, I will do it - Avoid Rainbow 4.
My friend, you are lucky you didn't get your ass kicked. You should be very careful what you do in these places. Sure they might have bad customer service. But you have to look at it from Rainbow's perspective. All they want is to extract as much money as they possibly can get from you. They don't care if you are happy, if you have fun, or whatever. So what they did is business as usual for them. If you didn't like it, all you had to do was get up and walk out (after paying for your drink, of course). By spilling your drink on the bar, you are now offending them, and Thais don't like to be offended. Always remember, you are in their country. In a fight, you will always lose. Protect yourself and don't let your emotions control your words or actions. It could get you into serious trouble in this country.
We guys really do let our little brain do all the thinking don't we?!
About sex? Yeah. If not then, when?
To each his own. Uglies with great attitude just don't get my little guy thinking, and if he's not intellectually engaged, there's no point.
LOL, reminds me of that famous saying, "There is nothing so underrated as a good shit, and nothing so overrated as a bad fuck".
Hot girls who are lousy or lazy in bed are not worth shit. Some geeks get a hard on by parading them over town as some kind of "show off" but a normal girl who fucks like a trooper and gives 110% is far better.
At the end of the day as a mongerer you are looking for enjoy P4P as much as possible and this means you enjoy it, its not whether she does or if your friends think she is pretty and hot, its all about the sex, cause that is what you are paying for :)
Hot girls with poor attitude have no intrinsic value. I BF a girl from Rainbox 4 about once every 3 years to remind myself why I don't frequent NEP.
Member #3428
09-17-09, 13:57
OK finally have some time to catch up. Last report was that we were off to the flower shop. In we went had a girl waiting, the girl who I ended up just lettering her give me BBBJ CIM while I was texting two hands with work problems.
We go a full session, three pops, sweating all over, and I invite her to go out with me. A pretty famous lady there, and to my surprise she accepted to go to a spa / massage with me right then and there, turns out it was her day off and she came in for my booking only so she was free to leave the shop if she wanted to. So my ISG buddy and I meet down stairs at the flower shop and we go over to 7/11 where I explain to my wingman that we need to wait at the Thong Lor BTS as this lady will change and come out and meet me and go out with me. He looks at me in total disbelief, but sure enough, 20 minutes after finishing our session... out comes this girl.
Off to King and I we go... she gets a spa I get a foot massage and she is happier then a little clam. I tell her that I need to get some items out of the washing machine in my room and would she mind if we stop at the room first before we go for a meal. She says sure no problem... well I actually did have laundry in the machine but once in the room we got down to business three more times but she would not stay with me the night.
She claimed her little sister is at home and she has to take care of her (which is actually true but she can stay out all night if she arranges it). I even got to talk with the sister some.
So score one on my check list... got a Flower Shop girl out of work for -0- cost and 3 free shots. :D I actually like this girl too. She was a lot of fun when she was not in work mode.
Later that night I ran to Shark, got the Dirty Girl (me and my friends name for one girl there), she bet me she could get me to finish in under 5 minutes... she lost the bet but we had equipment malfunction so she off she runs taking partial short time money to get to pharmacy she says... In my opinion she did not want to be screwed all night long as she bet me I could not get it up multiple times or last long. She is a serious dirty girl but totally honest. We sat there and we went over her sponsors and her phone logs and her emails and sms messages... Jesus some guys are worse then me how they email and sms and text to girls....
Anyways ended up calling the my freebie MP girl later that night after Dirty Girl ran off. So got a few more shots in that night then in the morning off to Pattaya we went. Will report in that section later.
Member #3428
09-17-09, 14:03
Arriving back to BKK from Pattaya, we were stuck in Friday Night Traffic so I had a long ride to SMS various girls. My wingman and the cab driver and the girl my wingman brought back to BKK from Pattaya were all laughing at me calling me a total bastard butterfly but that's OK, it is true :D
Anyways my ex ex TGF was waiting at the hotel upon arrival so we went straight to my couch and had a session there. She was horny as all get out so it was a welcome relief for both of us to get this over with as I was stuck in a taxi for hours and she hasn't been satisfied in long time. She stopped her work and turns out she is visiting Q Bar and other places and she is telling me about the stupid rich old farang guys throwing money at her (yes I was a stupid guy before for helping her too :D but now I get it for free thank you) and it amazes me how much she can pick up in one night doing free lance at what are supposed to be higher end clubs.
And she is a great screw, her face and boy are nothing special but she can hump like a champion. The funny thing is that most guys are so drunk or old that they are lucky to get one shot off and are quick. So what are they doing wasting their time and money at a club scene? I still do not understand Thailand and I'm still making mistakes myself but it never ceases to amaze me what happens in Thailand.
After she left I called in girl and we ended up doing the 23 year old before she went home for good (so she says but I am sure she will be back in BKK shortly). The next morning go my freebie MP girl to spend the day with me and night. I needed a break. So she took care of me all day and night and treated me like a king. Just a wonderful girl.
Member #3428
09-17-09, 14:14
sunday comes around and i have three girls from pattaya show up at my room about 1 hour after the freebie mp girl leaves.
the hotel staff already know me now and were standing at the doors laughing outright at three bar girls from pattaya show up right as i was leaving breakfast with my isg buddy and his girl from pattaya. but a few young girls and a nice tight body 20 year old (unfortunately the sister of the one girl had to stay at home as she was red :( )
so in we go to the room, screw each of them one time, the new girl was an oral expert and i really enjoyed that session with her. i ended up doing the 20 year old two times, the 25 year old girl who likes me one time, and the new girl one time. since it was the 20 year old's first time in bkk (turns out she is from the same home town as my ex ex gf and we knew a lot of the same people) we went off to mbk. me and three bg's and my friend.
it was funny teaching the ban nok (is this the way to write it?? ) 20 year old how to use the bts and other things. but we had a good time and got them some items they needed, a 250 baht memory card, they used their own money to buy bags and other things, but i did buy a bag for the sister who was red... etc... we just had an enjoyable time. we went out to eat then back to the room for another round of action. this time all three in bed at the same time all playing with each other and me. god i love open minded thai girls...
finishing that off to cowboy we go as the baby wanted to see the famous soi cowboy. what a disappointment for her. compared to pattaya cowboy is nothing. so after a quick visit at baccara and shark off to hillary's on soi 11 we go, shooting pool, eating, relaxing... to the room, more sex... the 20 year said she was sore so i had to suffice with the other two for a while and the baby was a little drunk so no big deal. she did end up peeing on the couch if you can believe that...
the next morning we ended up all playing together for a final shag, sent them on their way with 2,000 baht each. well worth it for three girls no holes barred enjoyment. these are girls that daddy07 and i meet up in pattaya :d it's easy to find girls like this in bkk but not for 2,000 baht each for 24 hours. so it was a nice cap or finish to my time in bkk.
fortunately or unfortunately it was not the finishing touches....
Member #3428
09-17-09, 14:31
So after the Pattaya girls leave... I am trying to figure out what to do. A late meeting on Monday but nothing in the day or night planned.
As good things come to those who wait... my non P4P identical twin university school sisters call me up. One has nothing to do and asks if I am free to meet her. I say sure and ask if her sister will join us and she reports sadly that no, she got engaged and will not be able to meet up with me anymore... so sad...
However off to MBK i go to meet the one sister. My mate brings over a Soi Cowboy girl to take her to a movie for day time freebie action and we run into each other so he gets to see one half of my twin sisters... And I don't push anything with her so we go off and get a coffee and talk and we move over to my room to "look up some items on the computer" to help her school work.
This turned into a very slow and careful and gentle sex session with her. Very nice and relaxing with her, a bigger girl (not fat) solid built football player and very sweet girl. Masters Student who is trying to make me a one girl man as she knows I am big butterfly. Anyways off to my meeting I go and kiss her goodbye and promise to try to be good boy...
After the meeting my ex gf comes over and my wingman and her and me go out, eat at German House, then walk Sukhumvit a little, and I spend my last night in the arms of my ex gf who I had told her to find another guy but she still wants to take me, and I still care for her very much. Even if I am a no good guy. I supported her and still do help her out and it was very enjoyable to spend my last night with her.
I am totally conflicted as to what to do my next visit. Currently have more then enough girls to take care of me and they all KNOW that I am playing around. I made this very clear to every girl, that I am a no good butterfly and that they should all find good men. Instead of turning them off of me it had the opposite affect, they started to like me more for being open and honest to them. Go figure... all my years of trying to play around all I had to do was tell them honestly I am going out to ***** around.
But my major complaint from this trip, was a lot of equipment failure using Crown and Durex. Many many times I had broken condoms on me during this trip. And I am getting a full blood work up tomorrow as I am going to leave the next day on another trip... God, life of travel can be so tiring at times...
But my major complaint from this trip, was a lot of equipment failure using Crown and Durex. Many many times I had broken condoms on me during this trip.
Probably because you're performance / use of them is outside of the specs they are designed and tested to? ;)
M P Lurker
09-18-09, 04:43
It was funny teaching the Ban Nok (is this the way to write it?? ) 20 year old how to use the BTS and other things.
I would write:
Baan Nawk
or
Baan Nork
บ้านนอก
means "country" (provincial)
in case anyone can read Thai.
to emphsize that the vowel sounds are long, but its tough when Thai vowel sounds are different to English (closer to German than to English actually).
Member #3428
09-18-09, 04:51
I would write:
Baan Nawk
or
Baan Nork
บ้านนอก
means "country" (provincial)
in case anyone can read Thai.
to emphsize that the vowel sounds are long, but its tough when Thai vowel sounds are different to English (closer to German than to English actually).
Thanks !!!! However you spell it I enjoy the song and I love the Baan Nawk ladies :D :D :D I'm definitely not OTH ;)
Member #4378
09-18-09, 05:17
Does anyone know if Grace hotel is still there and has uzbek girls?
Member #3428
09-18-09, 05:31
Probably because you're performance / use of them is outside of the specs they are designed and tested to? ;)
Funny,,, I forgot how funny you engineers are. You're almost as funny as all the computer geeks we got on ISG :D
Now get your ass out of the cold hell hole you call home and get over to SEA !!!
Well I have spent many years so, and I can tell you, the Thais who matter - middle class and above, couldn't care less what dark-skinned Isaan girls do. They are so far below them in the social scale they simply don't identify with them at all. Which is really why the whole for-farang sex industry has been allowed to develop. They're basically renting us what they consider to be their livestock. It would be as if a foreign element were coming to the USA to fuck black women - do you really think that the dominant group would feel someone were 'stealing their women'. No.
Of course Thai men have their own type of prostitutes, but they tend to be totally different from ours - they like a totally different type. Most are from the North or homegrown (central Thai), and they tend to cost much more than ours do. They have very light skin, look demure, are very young, and provide no service. The typical Thai middle class man would find our girls unbearable crass and low, and no amount of pornographic service would make up for this. He fantasizes about forcibly deflowering a 'good' girl from a decent background, or a reasonable facsimile thereof. What we do in Pattaya is seen as not unlike smearing ourselves with shit by the middle class Thai.
However they do feel embarrassed that Pattaya exists, and it is most definitely under threat. If the poors from Isaan all went to Sihanoukville to make money draining farangs, Thais wouldn't be nearly so embarrassed about it, I suspect.
As for what ordinary working-class Isaan men feel about it I couldn't say, as I have never known any of those.
I'd agree with most of the generalizations but as for the P for P scene, i still am not convinced. I regularly visit several 98% Thai massage places where a few Japanese/Koreans is about as farang as it gets...now i do tell most of my farang friends that the girls there generally can be hotter than most of the gals in Sukhumvit, not to mention actually cheaper if you start adding what people spend on bar fines and lady drinks...and the service is guaranteed without attitude...that said, even though the girls there generally have slightly lighter skin, there are still plenty who would fit right in the middle as far ask skin tone would go down on Sukhumvit...and not to mention that chatting with the gals, i'd say that 70-80% come from Isaan...the same girls that all the middle class Thai businessmen are going with....if you go up to the gogo bars in Sutthisan, which is 100% Thai, it is the same deal...yeah, there are some lighter skinned girls, but overall, if they all strolled down Sukhumvit they certainly wouldn't be sticking out as northern girls or middle class girls and i'd say that again 80% of them are from Isaan...i think it is a bit like the argument that farangs like dark skinned girls...how many Thai women with light skin have told me that farangs dont like them because of this...i tell them that this stereotype is due to the fact that 95% of all farangs who come to Thailand go to find women in Sukhumvit, and in that scene, probably 95% of the girls come from Isaan, and yes, generally Isaan girls have darker skin...i am sure if 95% of the girls in Sukhumvit came from Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai, farangs would be enjoying them just as much...
Size Six Lover
09-18-09, 16:50
My first visit to BKK was last month (before I discovered ISG) and my next trip is in a few days. I've read the last 25 pages of BKK reports to get the knowledge I didn't have for the first time and I now have a short list which is not so short! No bad thing I agree as more options are always better than few which is what was available on Tuesday night in Moscow!
So with zero knowledge other than interrogating the Hotel Bell boy and taxi drivers (which soon had me thinking of the modern proverb of the correlation with opinions and assholes) at 10pm went to J One and had a drink and observed 30 female goblins to average at 3000 Baht and 3 beauties which were 4000 Baht. I called over one of the stunners to see if she was so good to tempt me from my cash and I just couldn't justify so I drank up and headed to the the ladyboy free Soi Cowboy. A quick crawl to see what the talent was like along the strip and back again to Sharks where I took a seat, ordered a beer and sat back to enjoy the view. Good music, plenty of girls from average to hot and average priced drinks. Nice that I was spoilt for choice with four of the girl's being 9's and few serious customers to BF. One of the 9's stood out with a little more sexy charisma about her than the others and after buying her a drink and sending her back to dance for me so I could enjoy the view and buy me some time as I was split between her and a blonde girl who caught my eye. I should have been quicker off the mark as a guy walked in and didn't beat around the bush in asking her to come over to join him for a drink and 20 mins later she was BF. Lesson learned for the future but I was more than happy with the one I BF at 650 Baht and 330 Baht for 3 drinks. Off to get some food and back to the hotel where we showered seperately. I took ten minutes and she seemed surprised as this to her was a short time which I was surprised to hear! She took at least 15 minutes which is a long time when you're lay on a bed and keen to fuck! She comes out and lays across me as she sets the alarm on the hotel clock and I think school boy error for not discussing time! She gives BBBJ for a few mins and stops to change positions which I didn't want as I was enjoying! 5 more minutes of head and she begins to whinge about her jaw which was dissapointing so I turned her over and gave her a good fucking which quickly had her jaw working fine as she was vocal in coming twice before I came. She showered and said she'd go so I paid and was happy to let her go in post come state of mind!
Next day I slept in until the early afternoon and after some shopping at MBK was aware I had to leave in the evening so I ventured to Cupid which I'd heard a few 'opinions' of. At J One the girls are there at the side as soon as you walk in but at Cupid it's quite a walk from the main door past all the pool tables where in the distance you can see a few girls sat behind the glass bowl. As I approached and got closer the view expanded to a sea of some 40 girls with those who had seen me approach nudging the girl next door and smiling which wherever you are is a feel good moment whether you're paying or not. To the side are another 30 girls who are more expensive than those in the bowl. I take a seat and order a beer (115 Baht) and observe the circus as some who couldn't see me move along to a space where they could and grinned at me whenever I would look their way. A frustrating thing about the fish bowls is that the girls are seated which is not ideal when you're as picky in wanting the whole package with a beautiful face and great body. In Sharks the girls were constantly moving around so your choice is much easier in weighing up their assets. In Cupid, I wished they had a buzzer... 'numbers 6, 13 and 37, stand up and do a twirl' and with so many women eyeing me up and intimating their wish to go upstairs I felt a little embarrassed to walk straight upto the glass like some other customers did and having seen the girls different reactions I couldn't help but smile to myself as it was pure comedy how they suddenly get the urge to get their compacts out to hide their faces.
I was more impressed by the hotter girls in the fishbowl who were 3000 Baht as opposed to the younger 'stars' at the side who were 3500 so I'm guessing the hotter ones I preferred were older and that is why they were less expensive. With my eye on the clock for my flight I decided to save myself for another time knowing exactly which girl I want if I go again in a few days.
I only go for above average girls as the opportunities to bed average girls are in abundance with my job in the airline industry. For me it's not about sex with just anyone and I have always been a little picky in scanning for the hotties when many a friend would choose the hog of the group to score and bag a grateful ****. Being in my early thirties with a surfer look I seem to be well received in non western countries which naturally I like to make the most of. I read that Siam Paragon Mall has lots of attractive women with Bossy and Bed Supper club also good for the 'free market'. Where else is the potential to meet hot girls who haven't quite made it to the bar and massage scene?
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..i think it is a bit like the argument that farangs like dark skinned girls...how many Thai women with light skin have told me that farangs dont like them because of this...i tell them that this stereotype is due to the fact that 95% of all farangs who come to Thailand go to find women in Sukhumvit
I don't agree. I've met several white skinned girls in Pattaya who struggled to get farang customers.
Also, the majority of really hot white skinned beauties, especially in Bangkok, won't make themselves available to farang. They simply don't need to.
Can we change that.
It should be "most hot beauties, especially in Bangkok, will not make themselves available to tourists or anyone else on a short term visit to Thailand".
Also, the majority of really hot white skinned beauties, especially in Bangkok, won't make themselves available to farang. They simply don't need to.
I would write:
Baan Nawk
or
Baan Nork
บ้านนอก
means "country" (provincial)
in case anyone can read Thai.
to emphsize that the vowel sounds are long, but its tough when Thai vowel sounds are different to English (closer to German than to English actually).
And, as an adjective, it can also mean uncouth, boorish, uneducated ...
Now get your ass out of the cold hell hole you call home and get over to SEA !!!
I have a cunning plan, Captain .......
RonnieMonger
09-19-09, 05:18
Didn't look like a sucker punch to me, but the movement of the woman in front of the camera obscures it a bit. He said come on bring it on or someting like that. He got what he asked for - and deserved it the stupid prick.
Yes, he got sucker punched; then kicked full in the face on his way to the floor; and finally kicked visciously twice in the head while he was down and out.
And yes, the little coward who cold cocked him ran away.
Not a very fair fight IMHO. This is why I try to keep a low profile in the LOS.
LittleBigMan
09-19-09, 10:12
RonnieMonger,
Common sense would conclude from the video, that the guy was having a argument with another guy at the bar. Then the Farang got loud and bang his hand on the bar and that brought attention to the others which I assume were Thai bouncers. He then back up and was looking straight at the guy he was having a argument seconds later lights out! End of story!
Whether he deserves it or not... isn't the position but did he get sucker punch the answer here is YES!
LBM
...98% Thai massage places ...and the service is guaranteed without attitude...
While it is true that you normally won't have any scary unexpected problems with girls in soapies, I've never had 'great service' there. Service there is almost always very far below what you can get from freelancers.
...even though the girls there generally have slightly lighter skin, there are still plenty who would fit right in the middle as far ask skin tone would go down on Sukhumvit...and not to mention that chatting with the gals, i'd say that 70-80% come from Isaan...
Interesting. I'm sure you're right that many girls on Suttisan or in Thai-oriented soapies are from Issan, but generally speaking they seem to pick the much lighter skinned ones. The darker ones being relegated to low end brothels and farang-service. I also meet quite a lot of Northern girls and regular central Thai girls in Thai soapies, both in Bkk and in Isaan. Its somewhat a given here in Isaan that the majority of girls in medium to higher priced brothels will be from 'Nan' or 'Chiang Rai'. In the really high priced places they have lots of central Thai girls.
But as far as 'middle class' girls - yes obviously they do not enter into normal mass-marketed P4P. Why would they?
Didn't look like a sucker punch to me, but the movement of the woman in front of the camera obscures it a bit. He said come on bring it on or someting like that. He got what he asked for - and deserved it the stupid prick.
The man is a hero to the uninformed masses who arrive here and don’t know how to conduct themselves. I've seen guys acting up the way he did too often with the same results. This video should be offered as a PSA on every airline transporting sex tourist to Thailand with the caption “this could be you after one drink.”
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I take a regiment of vitamins and herbals and protein which I've shared with many guys but it's about 29 pills a day. I do not screw like this every day only in BKK mostly and sometimes in MNL and China is usually having someone brought to me. And I do go hog wild for the ladies when I land and before I take off. Have not used lube one time yet on this trip. The girls get naturally wet with DATY and I can not perform for just ANY girl, of course not no way could I get stimulated for no damn reason.
If this is a patented formula then never mind but I used to have your stamina a while ago in Korea but now it has really tapered off. I wondering if it is because I have not been mongering for long while, not exercising, or not taking the right regiment mentionned above.
Hands down, he deserved it.
Yes, this should be a training video on how not to behave. Again, if I may quote Hannibal Lector - "discourtesy is unspeakably ugly to me."
Didn't look like a sucker punch to me, but the movement of the woman in front of the camera obscures it a bit. He said come on bring it on or someting like that. He got what he asked for - and deserved it the stupid prick.
ReallyaNiceGuy
09-20-09, 04:42
Well actually my second, I was too beat from the flight from Tokyo and the trip to the hotel to do anything the first night.
I picked up a girl on the street, her name sounded something like Get, 19 years old very short and tiny. She turned out to be a flip flop, yes yes on the street and no no in the room, no kissing, very little BBBJ, she wanted 1000 ST 2 hours, I just pounded her until I was done, less then an hour, gave her 800 and kicked her out.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
09-20-09, 04:46
Went to Nana, ended up at a little place on the second floor on the left, DC-10?. Fun place, there were very few customers, and the girls dancing were really wild and cute.
Sat with Hon, 20 years old, no kids, cute, nice body, very nice girl, passionate DFK in the bar. She really got me going, but I’m easy, 600 BF, 1500 ST 2 hours, 1 coke and 1 LD, 2300 Bhat and we were out the door.
Got in the cab and she was all over me, same when we got to the room, she was ready, she showered, I showered, lots of DFK, body kisses, BBBJ, 69, she came 3 times, several positions but I didn’t cum, well she would have none of that, lots more BBBJ that was great by the way, HJ, I’m setting on her chest and she going to town with the BBBJ, I tell her I’m ready to explode, pulls me out at the last second and I cum on her tits and neck, then she sucks me dry.
I think she said she was from Sakon Nakhon and she told me about all of the girls in her town, sister, cousins, friends that had gotten a falong (SP) to take care of them, longest was a year, and all the things they got from them, houses, cars, motorbikes, cash, etc., so she sad she wanted one too. She has been in BKK 3 months, working at the bar for 2 months and I was her 7th customer.
Mike
Member #3428
09-20-09, 06:20
If this is a patented formula then never mind but I used to have your stamina a while ago in Korea but now it has really tapered off. I wondering if it is because I have not been mongering for long while, not exercising, or not taking the right regiment mentionned above.
I've discussed this many times with folks via PM and such. First it is your general health you need good cardio work outs, eat right, take protein shakes, etc... It does not matter if you are 20 lbs overweight or your age etc... if you get a good cardio work out going it will help a lot. No stamina, no cardio, you overall ability to monger and repeat mongering multiple times will taper off in a hurry no matter how horny you are.
From there you can add in various items like strong multi vitamins, but I add garlic, calcium, fiber, etc... From there you can add in prostate pills seem to help a lot of guys a lot as they get older etc...
From there the herbals I use are Semenax and Ogoplex. I do not necessarily think you need to take herbals, those two just add to the intensity of my climaxes and add to the volume. Those are the only pills I take for sexual performance. Semenax is 3 times a day and Ogoplex is 1 time a day. Does it work, I have no idea if it works for you folks but I see that it works for me and that is the only thing that matters. I do not know if you can get in Asia but I bring it in for some folks when i come on my trips as I can ship it to my country.
The most important is your general health and fitness, if you drop your cardio work outs and fitness regiments then your overall sexual stamina will drop also. I also refrain from all alcohol, not even one drop and I stopped smoking a few years ago also. Plus add large volumes of juice / water. Even when I am mongering I still hit up the gym for atleast half an hour of good cardio but try to get in atleast an hour a day. When I fail to get in some cardio I notice my performance starts to lessen.
I am under complete doctors care and am tested every month for my work for everything from blood to health to heart etc... For me it works, and it starts at the basic fitness level.
Hands down, he deserved it.
Yes, this should be a training video on how not to behave. Again, if I may quote Hannibal Lector - "discourtesy is unspeakably ugly to me."
Easy to say, isn't it, when it's another guy.
Your opinion is understandable though, considering the fact that Hannibal Lector is your personal philosopher.
yes grace hotel is still around and is full most of the time except for ramadan holiday. they still have uzbec and other ístan' girls there at night. you can take one up stairs for an additional 500bht the girl has to pay at the hotel reception. maybe a few hundred baht more at security.
Where do you find them, e.g., in the bar of the hotel?
yes grace hotel is still around and is full most of the time except for ramadan holiday. they still have uzbec and other ístan' girls there at night. you can take one up stairs for an additional 500bht the girl has to pay at the hotel reception. maybe a few hundred baht more at security.
Very east, with such conduct.
Easy to say, isn't it, when it's another guy.
Your opinion is understandable though, considering the fact that Hannibal Lector is your personal philosopher.
Where do you find them, e.g., in the bar of the hotel?In the basement of the Grace Hotel (a simple walk down the stairs from the lobby) is a "coffee house"...its more like a disco actually. If I recall correctly there is an entrance fee of maybe 200 baht or so, but it gets you one drink. The place is packed with girls and mongers.
This advice is golden and your reports are first class. I think you should be nominated for top gun in Thailand in this whole thread TKTV. I do remember that my stamina peaked when I was in the military doing PT 3 times a week. I will definitely get back to that routine. By the way I am in NYC now but I visited Thailand last summer and sometimes my cartridge jammed because of. Stamina cardio issue.
Carlos
I've discussed this many times with folks via PM and such. First it is your general health you need good cardio work outs, eat right, take protein shakes, etc... It does not matter if you are 20 lbs overweight or your age etc... if you get a good cardio work out going it will help a lot. No stamina, no cardio, you overall ability to monger and repeat mongering multiple times will taper off in a hurry no matter how horny you are.
From there you can add in various items like strong multi vitamins, but I add garlic, calcium, fiber, etc... From there you can add in prostate pills seem to help a lot of guys a lot as they get older etc...
From there the herbals I use are Semenax and Ogoplex. I do not necessarily think you need to take herbals, those two just add to the intensity of my climaxes and add to the volume. Those are the only pills I take for sexual performance. Semenax is 3 times a day and Ogoplex is 1 time a day. Does it work, I have no idea if it works for you folks but I see that it works for me and that is the only thing that matters. I do not know if you can get in Asia but I bring it in for some folks when i come on my trips as I can ship it to my country.
The most important is your general health and fitness, if you drop your cardio work outs and fitness regiments then your overall sexual stamina will drop also. I also refrain from all alcohol, not even one drop and I stopped smoking a few years ago also. Plus add large volumes of juice / water. Even when I am mongering I still hit up the gym for atleast half an hour of good cardio but try to get in atleast an hour a day. When I fail to get in some cardio I notice my performance starts to lessen.
I am under complete doctors care and am tested every month for my work for everything from blood to health to heart etc... For me it works, and it starts at the basic fitness level.
M P Lurker
09-20-09, 11:34
Well actually my second, I was too beat from the flight from Tokyo and the trip to the hotel to do anything the first night.
Mike
Are you getting on a bit? I mean how can you be beat after a flight from Tokyo. Its not that far.
If arrived at your Hotel at 5AM, I could understand, I guess.
Otherwise why waste any time?
Or are you just bored with sex?
Hi,
Can anyone tell me the prices of taking out a girl from either Eden, Annie or Tulip for a full day/night?
Junior
Hi,
Can anyone tell me the prices of taking out a girl from either Eden, Annie or Tulip for a full day/night?
Junior
I haven't been there recently, but take-away at the Eden Club used to be 3000 baht per girl from 10 pm (22:00) till 6 am (6:00) the next morning. About Annie's and Tulip, the information is probably already available in their specific threads.
Are you getting on a bit? I mean how can you be beat after a flight from Tokyo. Its not that far.
If arrived at your Hotel at 5AM, I could understand, I guess.
Otherwise why waste any time?
Or are you just bored with sex?
Am I missing something here??? This guy gets in late, goes to sleep, the next day he hooks up, posts pics and a small story and you NEED TO KNOW why he went to sleep upon arrival instead of mongering???????????
WTF?
Yes, but nowadays in many areas these cheap brothels or chicken farms are closed down and no longer exist.Opebo. Ever if some cities in the countryside has face serious crackdown and remain still dead for mongering (at least for farang of course). Ever if the girls quality has fall a lot. These cheap place are always alive in their large majority. Or they just move and are more discret.(and you know it very well)
Cheers
I picked up a girl on the street, her name sounded something like Get, 19 years old very short and tiny. She turned out to be a flip flop, yes yes on the street and no no in the room, no kissing, very little BBBJ, she wanted 1000 ST 2 hours, I just pounded her until I was done, less then an hour, gave her 800 and kicked her out. MikeHi Mike,
You are a brave man and a real nice guy!
First you pound her and then kicked this very strong girl (19) out.
She will sure respect all of us mongers by your brave act.
You earned (stole) baht 200 and you can be proud of yourself.
BTW what you pay in your home country for one hour?
I think u pay baht 1000 only for the pics in your country !
Cheers!
So with zero knowledge other than interrogating the Hotel Bell boy and taxi drivers (which soon had me thinking of the modern proverb of the correlation with opinions and assholes) at 10pm went to J One and had a drink and observed 30 female goblins to average at 3000 Baht and 3 beauties which were 4000 Baht. J One and Cupid are all commission paying establishments, which means that they will upcharge you if you arrive in a Tuk Tuk or taxi. Also from my experiences the girls on Rachada soapies are better looking.
As for getting a freebie, they can be had in most of the places you mentioned. Although knowing a little Thai does help. Also most late night clubs like Spicy and Spice are full of working girls who are looking for a good fuck from a young guy after fucking a old dog at work (no offense, we will get old). I have gotten many freebies from these places.
At the heart of it all is the fact that working girls are like all girls, they are all looking for a handsome rich guy who can fuck like a race horse. :) Enjoy your stay in Bkk
Member #3200
09-20-09, 20:40
I travel 27 hrs with stopovers from toronto with maybe 4 hours of sleep at best on the planes, I arrive from the Tokyo leg around midnight & lucky to be checked in at my hotel around 1am, but somehow I find the urge to monger right from the second I land on Thailand turf, but I have a reputation of being 1 sick little puppy--hahaha
Paolo, I actually think he did nothing wrong.
They agreed on a price of 1,000, which was to include pretty much everything he had requested, "yes yes on the street", and he got pretty much nothing, "no no in the room".
Chances are she has done this many times before and she has got away with it. She just happened to run into someone who decided to only pay for what he got. I might have kicked her out with nothing, instead of consumating a bad deal, and gone to find another more willing partner. Dime a dozen.
Perfectly acceptable in my book.
She doesn't respect us, his "brave act" has nothing to do with anything. She hasn't respected us since the day she got off the bus, don't kid yourself. Her attitude is proof she didnt give a shit about this punter, and won't give a shit about the next one, or the next, or the next.
Nice guy, keep the reposts coming. Some of us like them.
edit : If her next 5 or 6 customers do the same as nice guy did, she probably will not do it again. Sad to say however, the guy she pulls tonight will give her the agreed amount, and only get 1/2 of what she agreed to. Shame on the monger for going along with her bullshit.
Thank you.
Going back to Bangkok from Pattaya, will check it out.
In the basement of the Grace Hotel (a simple walk down the stairs from the lobby) is a "coffee house"...its more like a disco actually. If I recall correctly there is an entrance fee of maybe 200 baht or so, but it gets you one drink. The place is packed with girls and mongers.
1Ball, thank your for the reality check. I was going to initially weigh in on the side of the poor and underprivledged. That is to say, I almost forgot how the gals incessantly try to game you.
Tis certain, he did do the right thing. Once you make the deal both parties have the obligation to honor it.
Paolo, I actually think he did nothing wrong.
They agreed on a price of 1,000, which was to include pretty much everything he had requested, "yes yes on the street", and he got pretty much nothing, "no no in the room".
Chances are she has done this many times before and she has got away with it. She just happened to run into someone who decided to only pay for what he got. I might have kicked her out with nothing, instead of consumating a bad deal, and gone to find another more willing partner. Dime a dozen.
Perfectly acceptable in my book.
She doesn't respect us, his "brave act" has nothing to do with anything. She hasn't respected us since the day she got off the bus, don't kid yourself. Her attitude is proof she didnt give a shit about this punter, and won't give a shit about the next one, or the next, or the next.
Nice guy, keep the reposts coming. Some of us like them.
they are in the coffee shop facing soi 3 on lobby floor9overlooking hotel drive up entrance. also some down stairs on ground level on soi 3 in cafe nero. just at night after 23:00 till 04:00 or so. grace being mostly for arabs has no bars, but you can buy beer at all the coffee shops in the hotel.
You are a brave man and a real nice guy!
First you pound her and then kicked this very strong girl (19) out.
She will sure respect all of us mongers by your brave act.
You earned (stole) baht 200 and you can be proud of yourself.
BTW what you pay in your home country for one hour?
I think u pay baht 1000 only for the pics in your country !
Please don't come down hard on our brother and side with this cheating girl.
He's fighting the good fight. If a girl gives less service than promised, there's nothing wrong with paying less - assuming you can get away with it. Of course usually they will start screaming, etc., so it isn't normally possible. But it is most definitely fair. If underpaying the underperformers either gets them to try harder or gets them to leave the business and go home, we're all better off for it.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me the prices of taking out a girl from either Eden, Annie or Tulip for a full day/night?
JuniorI believe Eden is 3000THB but it is after 10:00 PM only, unless they have changed. Annies is 3000THB for takeout regardless of what time they leave (From their website, Probably more for a "sideliner"), and I do not know about Tulip.
DVEight
M P Lurker
09-21-09, 15:47
Am I missing something here??? This guy gets in late, goes to sleep, the next day he hooks up, posts pics and a small story and you NEED TO KNOW why he went to sleep upon arrival instead of mongering???????????
WTF?
Of course I don't NEED TO KNOW.
Just joking around. Sorry it isn't funny.
Just struck me as funny that the short flight dulled his eargerness.
I now see he was really coming from Toronto, which certainly makes a lot more sense.
Suntangh R
09-21-09, 16:09
Please don't come down hard on our brother and side with this cheating girl.
He's fighting the good fight. If a girl gives less service than promised, there's nothing wrong with paying less. Assuming you can get away with it. Of course usually they will start screaming, etc., so it isn't normally possible. But it is most definitely fair. If underpaying the underperformers either gets them to try harder or gets them to leave the business and go home, we're all better off for it.Just to understand what makes both sides tick; could you guys, experienced that you are with a couple of thousand posts, tell us how should one respond to poor performance, if the guy is crude, rude, rough, smelly, akin to Eli Wallach, God rest his soul, in the Good, Bad, and the Ugly.
I am not being sarcastic or judgemental. I would be interested in knowing what would be considered fair in such scenario.
Paolo, I actually think he did nothing wrong.
They agreed on a price of 1,000, which was to include pretty much everything he had requested, "yes yes on the street", and he got pretty much nothing, "no no in the room".
Chances are she has done this many times before and she has got away with it. She just happened to run into someone who decided to only pay for what he got. I might have kicked her out with nothing, instead of consumating a bad deal, and gone to find another more willing partner. Dime a dozen.
Perfectly acceptable in my book.
She doesn't respect us, his "brave act" has nothing to do with anything. She hasn't respected us since the day she got off the bus, don't kid yourself. Her attitude is proof she didnt give a shit about this punter, and won't give a shit about the next one, or the next, or the next.
Nice guy, keep the reposts coming. Some of us like them.
edit : If her next 5 or 6 customers do the same as nice guy did, she probably will not do it again. Sad to say however, the guy she pulls tonight will give her the agreed amount, and only get 1/2 of what she agreed to. Shame on the monger for going along with her bullshit.Hi 1Ball and others who reacted,
This case is not what you think, he was totaly wrong!
It is a matter of perceptence. He wanted to hear yes, yes, yes. You forget there are two sides on every story!
She never agreed on what he tried to say to, and ask from her. She only agreed the usual short-time for the usual price and she only said yes when she was asked for pictures within the price.
Look at the pics, and what you see, a cheating girl or a giving girl? And even better, ask Ket yourself, or take Ket (20) for short-time.
After you did that, then give your comment and tell me who cheats.
How brave can a real man be, small girl, 200 baht. Baaaaaaa!
What you think she is thinking, and what about her trust after what happened, how will she treat the next and the next, next.
You talked about respect?
Cheers!
Paulo, from your post below, seems you know this girl. You employ a slightly different name, and mention she never agreeed to what he asked for, etc.
So, have you talked to her? if yes, please let us know the other side of the story. I am curious. After all, we all know that TWG never lie. ;)
M P Lurker
09-22-09, 02:47
Paulo, from your post below, seems you know this girl. You employ a slightly different name, and mention she never agreeed to what he asked for, etc.
There is no reality. Its all just stories and perspectives (and possibly a few lies).
No need to believe anyone 100%
Same name, just alternative spelling.
Get, Ket, Gate, Kate, Gayt, .... whatever.
In Thai words, the letter K without an h following sounds like G.
เกด means Raisin (sultana)
I think 800 is a bit low for a 1 hour screw in BKK. But fine if can get a girl to agree to it! I would prefer to pay twice the amount and get twice the service.
Friend and I did a number of bars in Soi Cowboy. Interesting thing was that at most places the gals did not smile, and actually avoided eye contact. Mentioned to one mamason that it appeared the girls spent most of the time looking at themself in the mirrow. She agreed, and said it was a real problem sometimes.
The excpetion was Tilac (hope I spelled it right). There wee a lot of gals and they were there to work. The differace here is a lot of gals working the floor, i.e., walking around and looking for buisness (lady drink or bar fine). However, they were not pushy. If you exchanged a long smile they would drift over and talk to you.
Met a real stunner (#72). Even before I bought her a ladies drink she was extremely warm and friendly. We discussed bar fine, but she said she would not do bbbj and wanted to use condom. My friend was sitting at the table, he told me that when I said no and went to the men's room she let out a long sigh and put her head on her chest.
All in all, not a bad place to spend some time, the type of place that has some energy and invites a good time.
I believe Eden is 3000THB but it is after 10:00 PM only, unless they have changed. Annies is 3000THB for takeout regardless of what time they leave (From their website, Probably more for a "sideliner"), and I do not know about Tulip.
DVEight
Annies is 3,000 for the fishbowl and 5,000 for sideliners for takeout, but the girl gets a percentage of this. If you receive good service, they ask that you give a generous tip. You can have her stay with you all day and all night--up to 23 hours. It's the same fee even if you only stay a few hours, but you normally tip more if she stays a long time.
Tulip is 800 to the house for a two-hour takeout session and 1,500 to the girl for a total of 2,300. If service is good, an exra tip is standard. For all day--all night (24 hours), the fee to the house is 3,000 and the tip is negotiated with the girl. About 4,000 to 5,000 for the girl is standard, but an additional tip is appreciated for good service.
I don't know Ket, but I have met NiceGuy. I'll take his version over hers any day.
NiceGuy, keep your posts coming...
...how should one respond to poor performance, if the guy is crude, rude, rough, smelly
I wouldn't know, SR. I consider it my part of the deal to not only pay fairly but to also be polite and clean.
Does anyone know if Grace hotel is still there and has uzbek girls?
Not sure if this article in the Bk Post has already been posted from a month ago - but its all about the Uzbek girls in Bkok. I can't say I have come across many that are even mildly attractive unless you like large older worn out women.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/9555/the-uzbeki-invasion
I don't know Ket, but I have met NiceGuy. I'll take his version over hers any day.
NiceGuy, keep your posts coming...
A question to all.
How do you know if a TG is lying?
:D
A question to all.
How do you know if a TG is lying?
:D
If she's complimenting you? :D
If she's complimenting you? :D
No Daddy, her lips are moving. :D
No Daddy, her lips are moving. :D
Oh, yeah ... those TG's are constantly lying to my dick. :D
LittleBigMan
09-22-09, 11:34
Oh, yeah ... those TG's are constantly lying to my dick. :D
If so, is she saying something like Yai ( big ) while she is licking when she really means Lek ( small ).
LBM
If so, is she saying something like Yai ( big ) while she is licking when she really means Lek ( small ).
LBM
Something like that, yeah. :D
M P Lurker
09-22-09, 14:30
I believe Eden is 3000THB but it is after 10:00 PM only, unless they have changed. Annies is 3000THB for takeout regardless of what time they leave (From their website, Probably more for a "sideliner"), and I do not know about Tulip.
DVEight
Its important to realise that these prices are not all inclusive.
e.g. of 3000 to Tulip, the girl gets zero.
I assume that at Annies the girl will get only a small portion, so still needs to be paid.
etc.
Guys that think they don't have to pay the girl separately are either dumb or arseholes.
Its important to realise that these prices are not all inclusive.
e.g. of 3000 to Tulip, the girl gets zero.
I assume that at Annies the girl will get only a small portion, so still needs to be paid.
etc.
Guys that think they don't have to pay the girl separately are either dumb or arseholes.
You think that you have to pay more than 3,000 baht for a night's session? I'm sorry but that's just unrealistic. Why would the price be so outrageously high?
Of course I have never taken a girl out in such a fashion, but I'm sure those in the know will confirm that the 'bar fine' is not 3,000 baht!
But these "dumb assholes" are now LUCKY "dumb assholes" since they now have you to guide them...
Its important to realise that these prices are not all inclusive.
e.g. of 3000 to Tulip, the girl gets zero.
I assume that at Annies the girl will get only a small portion, so still needs to be paid.
etc.
Guys that think they don't have to pay the girl separately are either dumb or arseholes.
Paulo, from your post below, seems you know this girl. You employ a slightly different name, and mention she never agreeed to what he asked for, etc.
So, have you talked to her? if yes, please let us know the other side of the story. I am curious. After all, we all know that TWG never lie. ;)Hi 1Ball,
I think it is clear what I told about Ket (20) and if you not understand it then read it again because that was the other side of the story.
Her correct name, as she told him, is Ket age 20 and not Get age 19. She did what she agreed for baht 1000 and even allowed pics for free.
Once again my best advice go find her, pay 1000 baht and try Ket and after that come back with your comments.
How to spoil a real nice girl, 200 baht, my last comment BAAAAAAA!
Cheers!
Gentlemen,
I've been away from the forum a bit and so have been catching up on my reading. I've been reading the past few pages here and have noticed some disturbing reports as of late. The same with other forums and sites. Reports of high prices, bad attitudes, rip-ffos, crimes, bar/disco closures, etc.
In just the past few pages I have come accross:
1. A guy that pays 3000B + 600B bar-fine for a BEER-BAR girl. WTF!
2. The same fellow the pays an outrageous 4000B + 600B bar-fine UPFRONT for a disappointing go-go girl. WTF! Now we are encouraging paying upfront? ! Don't people realize the scams and star-fish behavior this will encourage!
3. Another gent pays an outrageous 4000B for a disappointing soapy massage girl service. Then TIPS 500B. WTF is the tip for; to encourage poor service?
4. Another reports paying a mid-30's free-lancer 2500B for ST. WTF! What ever happened to 1000B ST?
5. Another guy has a go-go girl set the hotel alarm-clock for a disappoing ST. WTF! Is he reporting from NYC or Bangkok?
6. Another has a free-lancer agree to fun on the street then does a 180 in the room.
From all these terrible experiences reported here and else-where it almost seems that LOS is collapsing as a P4P destination.
So, is it? Or are these just isolated incidents? Is LOS still worth visiting?
Your commments please.
Friend and I did a number of bars in Soi Cowboy. Interesting thing was that at most places the gals did not smile, and actually avoided eye contact. Mentioned to one mamason that it appeared the girls spent most of the time looking at themself in the mirrow. She agreed, and said it was a real problem sometimes.Why do the go-go girls do this? Why do they avoid eye-contact, etc. Aren't they there to meet a nice farang and earn some baht?
Guys that think they don't have to pay the girl separately are either dumb or arseholes.
The girl will make very sure you know the deal before going with you.
ISG appears to be getting more and more people attemtping to promote the services of a couple of places. By doing so they actively encourage over paying, paying up front, over tipping etc.
I have made my points many times, I am still here and I am enjoying Thailand as ever was in the past.
First things first - Freelancers should be 1000B to 1500B short time, depending on what they offer and their looks. Some you will get down to 500B or a little more depending on how desperate they are.
Massage - 500B for a HJ, 1000B for a BJ and 1500B for FS. End of story.
Use of facilities (eg room at massage place) - 400B for 1 hour, 600B for 1.5 hours, 800B for 2 hours.
Avoid at all cost escorts or escort agencies who attempt to rip you off by supplying a 1500B girl for 4000B or more.
Do not tip if you receive bad service.
Do not pay a tip if any place you pay for "all in" pricing up front.
Bar fines - avoid them at all costs. If the girl really likes you she will meet you after work, or in the morning of the next day. If you cannot wait or want to support her in getting her monthly bar fine "quota" then at least agree what she will do and what she will be paid BEFORE you pay the bar fine. Be explicit and do not be shy, these girls get through kilometres of cock per year and never forget that. If she fails to do anything agreed then get rid of her asap and give her 1000B and put it down to experience, and let other ISG members know the bar name and the girls name/number.
I suppose there are more people like me enjoying themselves and happy and quiet, as opposed to those not happy and writing on here so the views may be skewed to be more negative.
Gentlemen,
I've been away from the forum a bit and so have been catching up on my reading. I've been reading the past few pages here and have noticed some disturbing reports as of late. The same with other forums and sites. Reports of high prices, bad attitudes, rip-ffos, crimes, bar/disco closures, etc.
In just the past few pages I have come accross:
1. A guy that pays 3000B + 600B bar-fine for a BEER-BAR girl. WTF!
2. The same fellow the pays an outrageous 4000B + 600B bar-fine UPFRONT for a disappointing go-go girl. WTF! Now we are encouraging paying upfront? ! Don't people realize the scams and star-fish behavior this will encourage!
3. Another gent pays an outrageous 4000B for a disappointing soapy massage girl service. Then TIPS 500B. WTF is the tip for; to encourage poor service?
4. Another reports paying a mid-30's free-lancer 2500B for ST. WTF! What ever happened to 1000B ST?
5. Another guy has a go-go girl set the hotel alarm-clock for a disappoing ST. WTF! Is he reporting from NYC or Bangkok?
6. Another has a free-lancer agree to fun on the street then does a 180 in the room.
From all these terrible experiences reported here and else-where it almost seems that LOS is collapsing as a P4P destination.
So, is it? Or are these just isolated incidents? Is LOS still worth visiting?
Your commments please.
I don't know Ket, but I have met NiceGuy. I'll take his version over hers any day. NiceGuy, keep your posts coming...Hi Finrod,
Sure he is a real nice guy to you and great stories to tell about how good he is.
When you two meet again I suggest you drink a beer for 200 Baht.
Cheers!
LittleBigMan
09-23-09, 12:30
Gentlemen,
I've been away from the forum a bit and so have been catching up on my reading. I've been reading the past few pages here and have noticed some disturbing reports as of late. The same with other forums and sites. Reports of high prices, bad attitudes, rip-ffos, crimes, bar/disco closures, etc.
In just the past few pages I have come accross:
1. A guy that pays 3000B + 600B bar-fine for a BEER-BAR girl. WTF!
2. The same fellow the pays an outrageous 4000B + 600B bar-fine UPFRONT for a disappointing go-go girl. WTF! Now we are encouraging paying upfront? ! Don't people realize the scams and star-fish behavior this will encourage!
3. Another gent pays an outrageous 4000B for a disappointing soapy massage girl service. Then TIPS 500B. WTF is the tip for; to encourage poor service?
4. Another reports paying a mid-30's free-lancer 2500B for ST. WTF! What ever happened to 1000B ST?
5. Another guy has a go-go girl set the hotel alarm-clock for a disappoing ST. WTF! Is he reporting from NYC or Bangkok?
6. Another has a free-lancer agree to fun on the street then does a 180 in the room.
From all these terrible experiences reported here and else-where it almost seems that LOS is collapsing as a P4P destination.
So, is it? Or are these just isolated incidents? Is LOS still worth visiting?
Your commments please.
Question 1 thru 6 = Answer 1 thru 6 = Isolated!
LBM
From all these terrible experiences reported here and else-where it almost seems that LOS is collapsing as a P4P destination.Sounds to me more like just a spate of really clueless tourists.
IMO there are four great mongering destinations left in Asia: Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, and China. Thailand is as good as any of them, and apart from the Philippines, the easiest and most user-friendly. It just takes a bit of research and preparation.
Tulip is 800 to the house for a two-hour takeout session and 1,500 to the girl for a total of 2,300. If service is good, an exra tip is standard. For all day--all night (24 hours), the fee to the house is 3,000 and the tip is negotiated with the girl. About 4,000 to 5,000 for the girl is standard, but an additional tip is appreciated for good service.
Ok, last time I was at Tulip was a few months ago, but the total charge was 2,100. Has it gone up even more to 2,300? Can others confirm this? (it was already overpriced at 2,100.
Regarding the take out fees you mention - am I reading this right that you are saying that you pay the massage parlour 3000 baht, and then pay the girl 4,000-5,000 baht on top of this? A total of 7,000-8,000 baht?! Or did you mean the total was 4,000-5,000 baht, including both 'tip' and the 3,000 baht fee? In either case the price is absurd, I'm just curious.
Ok, last time I was at Tulip was a few months ago, but the total charge was 2,100. Has it gone up even more to 2,300? Can others confirm this? (it was already overpriced at 2,100
House charges are:
1 hr 400
1,5 hr 600
2 hr 800
Girl expects to get 1.500 for full service.
These are in house charges.
Most probably you had an hour and half.
Why do the go-go girls do this? Why do they avoid eye-contact, etc. Aren't they there to meet a nice farang and earn some baht?
Funny you say that- I find myself avoiding eye contact with girls unless I want them to come over. Otherwise, I expect these girls to watch themselves in the mirror- it's another trait they share with my pet parakeet, along with a similar IQ.
Has anyone had any experience with "Volume Pills"? I only see intel on Ogoplex and seminax but the websites all say that Volume Pills are superior in performance. Anyone try these Volume Pills yet? I would appreciate all of your feedback before I make a huge investment.
Ok, last time I was at Tulip was a few months ago, but the total charge was 2,100. Has it gone up even more to 2,300? Can others confirm this? (it was already overpriced at 2,100.
Regarding the take out fees you mention - am I reading this right that you are saying that you pay the massage parlour 3000 baht, and then pay the girl 4,000-5,000 baht on top of this? A total of 7,000-8,000 baht?! Or did you mean the total was 4,000-5,000 baht, including both 'tip' and the 3,000 baht fee? In either case the price is absurd, I'm just curious.It has to be said, much as I love the flower girls, it's not good value. But it just represents the loss of earnings to the shop and the girl if she goes with you ie in a day she may easily have 4 customers, so that would be 6000 Bht to her and say around 3000 Bht to the house.
So I can see the business logic - they just don't want to encourage all-day take-outs.
I recently wanted to take out my favourite girl from Devil's Den for an o/n, but she was on a 4-day booking with another customer, at I think 7000 Bht per day...
... it's another trait they share with my pet parakeet, along with a similar IQ.
I would not say (nor imply) that go-go and bar girls are stupid. Most of them are uneducated, but certainly way smarter than numerous foreigners. Actually, the dumbest acts that I've witnessed or heard about in Thailand so far were made by Farangs! And funny enough, more often than not, they do those stupid things in order to please a (working or former) bar or go-go girl, go figure!
I would not underestimate your pet parakeet's IQ if I were you... ;)
Primo Bolan
09-24-09, 07:02
Gentlemen,
I've been away from the forum a bit and so have been catching up on my reading. I've been reading the past few pages here and have noticed some disturbing reports as of late. The same with other forums and sites. Reports of high prices, bad attitudes, rip-ffos, crimes, bar/disco closures, etc.
In just the past few pages I have come accross:
1. A guy that pays 3000B + 600B bar-fine for a BEER-BAR girl. WTF!
2. The same fellow the pays an outrageous 4000B + 600B bar-fine UPFRONT for a disappointing go-go girl. WTF! Now we are encouraging paying upfront? ! Don't people realize the scams and star-fish behavior this will encourage!
3. Another gent pays an outrageous 4000B for a disappointing soapy massage girl service. Then TIPS 500B. WTF is the tip for; to encourage poor service?
4. Another reports paying a mid-30's free-lancer 2500B for ST. WTF! What ever happened to 1000B ST?
5. Another guy has a go-go girl set the hotel alarm-clock for a disappoing ST. WTF! Is he reporting from NYC or Bangkok?
6. Another has a free-lancer agree to fun on the street then does a 180 in the room.
From all these terrible experiences reported here and else-where it almost seems that LOS is collapsing as a P4P destination.
So, is it? Or are these just isolated incidents? Is LOS still worth visiting?
Your commments please.
First of all are you talking about LOS in general or only BKK?
And by the way try to reply and specify other comments after your hillarous outbrake. PB
funny you say that- i find myself avoiding eye contact with girls unless i want them to come over. otherwise, i expect these girls to watch themselves in the mirror- it's another trait they share with my pet parakeet, along with a similar iq.funny, perfect sanook d.
i think the exact same thing.
hmm.
if you want a measure of iq, go spend some time with the farang liason/greeter at patong beach hospital here in phuket. he has stories that will keep you in stitches (sic) & shaking your head (at the same time? )
naked guys falling off of hotel room balconies, naked guys crawling on their bellies in hotel hallways, naked guys on motorbikes involved in serious accidents, naked guys getting the shit kicked out of themselves on the beach, naked guys nearly drowning in the hotel pool at 4am. on and on and on (and that's just the naked guy stories! ). no, these are not thais, they're farangs. now, again, who has the iq of your pet parakeet?
ok, we got that straight.
henryv & monopoly here is your answer:
most farang guys here in thailand are over the hill, sweaty, somewhat balding, overweight, and kinda ugly. if i were on a barstage peering out at the crowd, most of them all blue pill overdosed, glassy eyed and stinky. i'd probably just be looking at myself in the mirror too. you are dudes, da bad boyz, you know, the ones that are supposed to be the pursuers? it's your job to go after them, not theirs to come after you. hello?
ok. this is thailand. the thing here is, you catch their eye, make a sweet deal, then go bang the holy living shit out of them. seriously, could it be more easy?
now you got it.
Why do the go-go girls do this? Why do they avoid eye-contact, etc. Aren't they there to meet a nice farang and earn some baht?Well at the risk of starting hate mail maybe the little darlings don't like what they see. Maybe they are in the wrong business. Maybe they are stupid. Maybe they need the mamasan to teach them. Who knows what the f*** goes on in the mind of any woman regardless of culture or occupation?
There are a billion other beauties that do look and smile and f*** like bunnies. You know the saying if you see someone without a smile, give 'em one of yours (especially if she has BIG TITS)! haha! Peace.
Why do the go-go girls do this? Why do they avoid eye-contact, etc. Aren't they there to meet a nice farang and earn some baht?
I mentioned this to Soap Fan when I was out with him one night. IIRC he rightfully noted that they are bored for one thing. That said if you are in the middle of a drink with them they will likely look in your direction now and then from the stage. When I notice this I always flash a toothy smile. The reason is that from where they are it is not necessarily all that easy to see us. The toothy smile will stand out and I'll get one back.
M P Lurker
09-25-09, 03:33
funny, perfect sanook d.
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here is your answer:
most farang guys here in thailand are over the hill, sweaty, somewhat balding, overweight, and kinda ugly. if i were on a barstage peering out at the crowd, most of them all blue pill overdosed, glassy eyed and stinky. i'd probably just be looking at myself in the mirror too. you are dudes, da bad boyz, you know, the ones that are supposed to be the pursuers? it's your job to go after them, not theirs to come after you. hello?
ok. this is thailand. the thing here is, you catch their eye, make a sweet deal, then go bang the holy living shit out of them. seriously, could it be more easy?
now you got it.
i pretty much agree with barko.
only the most brazen slutty girls (in the view of some) are really going to oggle the ugly customers, or even the handsome ones. girls do not generally want to appear that slutty. this is not really my opinion but considering thai social norms.
they are bored out of their brains dancing gogo to same songs from yester-year day in and day out. they may have serious money problems causing them not to be particularly happy.
the obvious place for them to gaze is in the mirror where can see yourself and the other girls well. can then compare dancing styles and looks. they may not be looking at anything in particular - "jai loi" (which means a floating mind).
why try the come on to a farang only to get rejected. its much easier to wait for the farang to come to the girl.
i usually reject girls that put on a big act for me, prefering the more natural girls.
only a small percentage of girls have so much confidence that they seriously think they can hook their preferred guy.
i have even met very shy girls who looked stunning in the bar.
who cares what the iq of the girl is? i don't go there looking for a deep and meaningful conversation. i would rather have a sweet nice girl with fab looks, that is willing to relax and have a good time while making some money, than a super intellegent one that will try to manipulate me.
like barko says. i sit and watch umpteen girls. i decide i like one. i wave at her and if she spots me then i make the motion of having a drink so she knows. if she is facing a different way, i may be forced to walk right up to the stage in front of her, to invite her over. that way she just cannot miss me. i don't waste too much time inviting her over, in case another customer should invite her first.
after a chat/drink, i can always change my mind, and call a different one later. or to keep them guessing, invite two or three girls, and then later decide which one is best.
p.s. girls that already have a customer, will certainly have no reason to be catching your eye!
Hi guys, I have been reading all these reports in preparation for my first trip to Thailand. I have read about Jungle Jims, Toy Bar, Moonshine Join, Fannys here in the forum and they seem very interesting however do not have a location for them. I plan on visiting them when I am in Thailand. I have tried to do a search for them but did not find their location.
Can someone tell me if they are in Bangkok or Pattaya? Lastly, I would appreciate an address of these bars, are they close to each other? Thanks for any help.
In Bangkok within Soi Cowboy.
Hi guys, I have been reading all these reports in preparation for my first trip to Thailand. I have read about Jungle Jims, Toy Bar, Moonshine Join, Fannys here in the forum and they seem very interesting however do not have a location for them. I plan on visiting them when I am in Thailand. I have tried to do a search for them but did not find their location.
Can someone tell me if they are in Bangkok or Pattaya? Lastly, I would appreciate an address of these bars, are they close to each other? Thanks for any help.
In Bangkok within Soi Cowboy.
Thanks for the quick response. Are all these bars in the same area? Also are the names of the bar that I posted correct? Hate to miss a bar just because I spelled incorrectly. Thanks again.
Thanks for the quick response. Are all these bars in the same area? Also are the names of the bar that I posted correct? Hate to miss a bar just because I spelled incorrectly. Thanks again.
This is a good site that shows everything in Soi Cowboy
http://www.bangkok.resort-hotels.net/nightlife/soi-cowboy.html
This is a good site that shows everything in Soi Cowboy
http://www.bangkok.resort-hotels.net/nightlife/soi-cowboy.html
Thanks. I appreciate the link.
Thanks for the quick response. Are all these bars in the same area? Also are the names of the bar that I posted correct? Hate to miss a bar just because I spelled incorrectly. Thanks again.Csun213,
Now, that's interesting. This are all very small bars, not many times mentioned ... and as I know all belong to one owner.
What's the story behind this bar selection?
Giotto
Csun213,
Now, that's interesting. This are all very small bars, not many times mentioned ... and as I know all belong to one owner.
What's the story behind this bar selection?
Giotto
When I was reading all the reports preparing for my trip, someone was saying that these bars have the wildest girls and was the most amount of fun he had in Thailand. This is why I want to go and check them out.
When I was reading all the reports preparing for my trip, someone was saying that these bars have the wildest girls and was the most amount of fun he had in Thailand. This is why I want to go and check them out.Csun213,
What's about the other bars, mentioned recently - Long Gun, Baccara, Sharks, Tilac ... and the Rainbow bars in Nana ...
Giotto
Csun213,
What's about the other bars, mentioned recently - Long Gun, Baccara, Sharks, Tilac ... and the Rainbow bars in Nana ...
Giotto
Oh we are planning on check them out also since they are very well known so no problem finding them.
Member #3428
09-25-09, 21:21
When I was reading all the reports preparing for my trip, someone was saying that these bars have the wildest girls and was the most amount of fun he had in Thailand. This is why I want to go and check them out.
YMMV.... What one person thinks is a wild girl is not what others think are wild girls. What one person think is a hot chick is not what others think. Really... you are making a lot of plans and doing a lot of research but honestly you are depending too much on reports from others. I walked into some of the bars on Soi Cowboy and they were filled with ugly girls, or girls with attitudes, or young young girls who don't even look like they know how to screw properly, or girls that wanted too high a price etc....
Cowboy, really is for the tourist and they assume that when you walk in there you don't know any better and you'll pay a higher fee and some try to pull a bait and switch on you (agree to one thing then try another). YES I PULLED FROM COWBOY recently but it really is not filled with wild crazy girls.
You gotta work hard and survey the entire place to find what you want and like. Before I found a real diamond in the rough from Dundee of all friggin places and I WOULD NEVER recommend anyone going there as it is a dive.
The only thing I can recommend is take a close look at pricing. I overpay as I expect multiple shots and really long time for me. But most girls will want 4 K and expect two pops and then leave or even have the nuts to ask for taxi money. That is the same price you get on Soi 33. They will want lady drinks that are about the size of shots (and the shots are usually watered down). They will push for dinner or this or that etc... In other words some girls you might hook up with will play the game and try to ring you out of a lot of extra baht.
Some guys do only short time, some like long time, etc... So just like in MP's, do not take girls names specifically, take their names and go to the shop and do a line up and ask them their names etc..., but keep and open mind and pick a girl who has good eye contact to you and smiling etc... In the Bars, make notes of names but do not expect them to fit what you want.
What I am starting to think from your reports now are that you have all these high expectations and you are reading these reports from people you do not know personally and do not know what type of person they are or what they like and you are basing a lot on this reports that you will be very disappointed with the level of service and the bars when you DO get there. Finding the girls to suit what you want and enjoy is not the same for everyone.
What is happening now that is in your benefit with the poor economy is that there are a LOT of girls, a lot better looking girls, girls are going the extra mile trying to satisfy the customer due to the lack of customers, etc... It really is a buyers market now.
Good Luck... Enjoy your planning sessions and I wish you well... I am not slamming you or flaming you at all, I just hope you are not over planning your trip as we have talked via PM on issues. Get some basic info then go with the flow and enjoy. There are times when over planning can ruin your trip.
EDIT: recently we had four or five senior ISG members, I think most of us all had over 1,000 posts in thailand, we've known each other for years, we've all been to thailand probably over 30 trips each for most of us, we all have had long term GF's in thaialnd, and were sitting at Baccara. We all thought different girls were hot looking. We liked the looks of some of the same girls but we all found different girls that we liked most. So what one person reports does not mean it will suit you at all.
Lord Farquard
09-25-09, 21:36
When I was reading all the reports preparing for my trip, someone was saying that these bars have the wildest girls and was the most amount of fun he had in Thailand. This is why I want to go and check them out.
last time i was in these locations they all had a "naughty-boy" corner. A place where you may obtain delights from your hostess just out of sight from the other patrons. Usually around the corner of the bar,you can still be seen, but the bar will hide the activity. :)
YMMV.... What one person thinks is a wild girl is not what others think are wild girls. What one person think is a hot chick is not what others think. Really... you are making a lot of plans and doing a lot of research but honestly you are depending too much on reports from others. I walked into some of the bars on Soi Cowboy and they were filled with ugly girls, or girls with attitudes, or young young girls who don't even look like they know how to screw properly, or girls that wanted too high a price etc....
Cowboy, really is for the tourist and they assume that when you walk in there you don't know any better and you'll pay a higher fee and some try to pull a bait and switch on you (agree to one thing then try another). YES I PULLED FROM COWBOY recently but it really is not filled with wild crazy girls.
You gotta work hard and survey the entire place to find what you want and like. Before I found a real diamond in the rough from Dundee of all friggin places and I WOULD NEVER recommend anyone going there as it is a dive.
The only thing I can recommend is take a close look at pricing. I overpay as I expect multiple shots and really long time for me. But most girls will want 4 K and expect two pops and then leave or even have the nuts to ask for taxi money. That is the same price you get on Soi 33. They will want lady drinks that are about the size of shots (and the shots are usually watered down). They will push for dinner or this or that etc... In other words some girls you might hook up with will play the game and try to ring you out of a lot of extra baht.
Some guys do only short time, some like long time, etc... So just like in MP's, do not take girls names specifically, take their names and go to the shop and do a line up and ask them their names etc..., but keep and open mind and pick a girl who has good eye contact to you and smiling etc... In the Bars, make notes of names but do not expect them to fit what you want.
What I am starting to think from your reports now are that you have all these high expectations and you are reading these reports from people you do not know personally and do not know what type of person they are or what they like and you are basing a lot on this reports that you will be very disappointed with the level of service and the bars when you DO get there. Finding the girls to suit what you want and enjoy is not the same for everyone.
What is happening now that is in your benefit with the poor economy is that there are a LOT of girls, a lot better looking girls, girls are going the extra mile trying to satisfy the customer due to the lack of customers, etc... It really is a buyers market now.
Good Luck... Enjoy your planning sessions and I wish you well... I am not slamming you or flaming you at all, I just hope you are not over planning your trip as we have talked via PM on issues. Get some basic info then go with the flow and enjoy. There are times when over planning can ruin your trip.
EDIT: recently we had four or five senior ISG members, I think most of us all had over 1,000 posts in thailand, we've known each other for years, we've all been to thailand probably over 30 trips each for most of us, we all have had long term GF's in thaialnd, and were sitting at Baccara. We all thought different girls were hot looking. We liked the looks of some of the same girls but we all found different girls that we liked most. So what one person reports does not mean it will suit you at all.
Thanks, I understand what you are saying, the problem is that 3 of us are going together and it will be the first time for all 3 of us.
I am just gathering all the locations from guys that said they had fun there. We will check out each location as time permits. I know that the experience will be different for everyone but would like to check out all the famous places and other places highly recommend by guys here. This will give us a lot of places to check out and fun doing it.
Member #4698
09-26-09, 00:40
Thanks, I understand what you are saying, the problem is that 3 of us are going together and it will be the first time for all 3 of us.
I am just gathering all the locations from guys that said they had fun there. We will check out each location as time permits. I know that the experience will be different for everyone but would like to check out all the famous places and other places highly recommend by guys here. This will give us a lot of places to check out and fun doing it.3 friends. First time in BKK. You are going to have a great time!
Tansak KTV has given you some sound advice. It's good to have a plan – a general outline of places you want to check out and not miss. But when you hit the ground and start your exploits, things will happen – "best laid plans" and all that. At some point you will drop your plans and just wing it and that's when things will start to get really good. So loosen up. Go with the flow – don't get crazy and you will have a great time. BKK is amazing. The overall info you get on this forum is incredibly accurate. Use it! But as Tansak points out specific preferences vary. You got to go with what turns you on. For me, if this where my first time visit to BKK, I would check out a highly rated oily massage parlor like Angel Massage on my first afternoon in town. I would take my time and pick an attractive girl who smiles and gives me some eye contact. I would buy 90 minutes with her. That would insure 2 BBBJ and 2 CFS. The sex will vary from pretty good to hot damn! It depends on the girl. After a satisfying session I would give the girl a nice tip, go out and wander around Sukumvit. I would buy some t- shirts and have dinner. Around 8pm I would head over to Cowboy and check out 2 or 3 of the bars on your list. At some point I would probably stop by Baccara just to see what's going on. IMHO Baccara has a very good selection of pretty girls. (note: I am aware of the cons, but I still like Baccara anyway). After a 90 minute afternoon session I find that I am usually in the right frame of mind to enjoy Cowboy. I always go with the attitude that getting laid is strictly optional. I am there to have a few drinks and soak up the local color. With 2 wingmen by your side, I know you will have a great time! A bar girl has to be more than just hot to move me. She has to have the right attitude. Otherwise forgetaboutit. Keep on truckin'. It's all good.
Next day I do it all over again; in the morning tourist stuff, in the afternoon massage time (I might try a highly regarded soapy for a change), then fool around about town. After dinner I would go back to Cowboy, or Nana and check out some more bars (Rainbow 4 being another bar you guys should not miss (note; there are cons to this bar too but still worth a look see IMHO). If I hook up with a girl I really like, I give her my cell number and plan on having her visit my hotel room. If I don't meet a girl I want a 2nd round with that's cool too.
The point I am trying to make is that at the end of a BKK trip, it should end up being an exclusive trip tailored specifically to my preferences (your preferences) and conditioned by the random events that exclusively occur to me (you) while out and about.
Have a great time; I know I will on my next trip (4 months and counting). AND Stay thirsty!
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In Thailand they are not hungry for Baht, as in there very existance and whether they can eat or not does not depend on a desperate fuck with some monger.
The girls have a support network, top girls will to some extent help lower ones, they love being the "numero uno" and having a gang of girls to cater to her ego.
Therefore the girls are often very choosy about who they go with. Their status in eyes of the other girls in the bar will rise if they keep getting taken out by "handsum man" but will go down if they keep going with ugly geeks, overwight guys or 60+ year olds.
Therefore they are quite choosy about who they go with.
However they will also play against this, eg if "fat man" pays 4000 baht each time and can only fcuk for 5 minutes and is spent, she will defend going with him by telling all the other girls he is easy money and a really quick fcuk, so they will understand her choice. But its still not the same "points score" as if a "handsum man" takes her out.
So yes, often they will avoid eye contact, and this means they are not interested in you.
If the girl who has been avoiding eye contact with you all night suddenly near closing starts making eye contact DO NOT THINK you have become lucky, all it means is she is now desperate for cash and will take you as against nothing at all. It generally also means you will get a lousy fcuk as she really has no interest in you at all.
Why do the go-go girls do this? Why do they avoid eye-contact, etc. Aren't they there to meet a nice farang and earn some baht?
When I was reading all the reports preparing for my trip, someone was saying that these bars have the wildest girls and was the most amount of fun he had in Thailand. This is why I want to go and check them out.
Not sure about the others, but I pop into Moonshine Joint every trip.
For a first timer you will probably be swamped with girls straight away asking for drinks and giving you a shoulder massage for a drink, etc. Can be a hassle.
Thankfully, I dont get that attention anymore. I like it there for the selection of music....you can sit at the end of the bar by the computer and compile your own playlist.
Hi guys,
I am a first timer here. As I have never been BKK before and am going to BKK next month, I would like to look for girls few nights there. Thinking what would be a better place for me as a stranger to seek girls in BKK.
According to what I have read from this forum, we could either find girls from go-go bar or message parlour?
If we would like to bring those girls from go-go bar back to our hotel, we need to pay the bar fine and then pay the girls for the night FS. So what would be the fair price I have to pay the bar fine and TO the girl as well for a whole night FS?
How about those girls from massage parlour? What would be the reasonable price I need to pay for a whole night FS by bringing them back to my hotel?
I am sorry if you guys keep repeating answer this kind of inquiry that you might answer in other threads at other pages, but there are just too many pages I need to read through and might omit some of them. Truely appreciate if you guys can provide some hints for me to look for girls at BKK.
Cheers!
Lover Boy #2
09-26-09, 03:47
There's action to be had at the Rangsit Boxing Stadium at night ( the girls sit in front, you can do a drive by).
Also for those looking for info on the massage place. It is a little before the Stadium, next to the Nissan dealership. ( look for neon lights)
There is also action to be had west of Future Park a bit. You will see what looks like a restaurant with pictures of Asian girls in the front.
As far as your experience will go. I can not say, most of these girls are use to servicing Thai guys and rarely will you find one that can speak English. So if you know a little Thai that will help.
Good luck and happy hunting
Andy, I would be very, very careful about pick-ups near the front of the stadium...which is actually the front of the disco (the stadium is way out back!). The "girls" are hanging in front of the kid's karate place....front of the disco. The only problem is that these "girls" are 90% of the time not girls....and 10% drug addicts just pushing a fast short time at the two hotels to the left and right.....to pay the drug dealer in the disco. I have a lot of experience in this zone, as I live 2 minutes away. There have been over 10 gun fights in this area in less than 4 months....all Thai involved. I disagree, this is not a good place to look for women.
I have been to the other places you mention.....I can speak fluent Thai now. They are Ok......but nothing special.....I have taken the van into Morchit many times to avoid these specific local places. I have not found any great quality yet....but glad you are happy here.
Not sure about the others, but I pop into Moonshine Joint every trip.
For a first timer you will probably be swamped with girls straight away asking for drinks and giving you a shoulder massage for a drink, etc. Can be a hassle.
Thankfully, I dont get that attention anymore. I like it there for the selection of music....you can sit at the end of the bar by the computer and compile your own playlist.
I would assume that the girls would leave you alone after you purchase a LD drink for the girl that you like or do they still hassle you for drinks for the other ladies?
What's the story behind this bar selection?
Some of the most fun I've had in Cowboy has been in Fanny's (went upstairs with a girl I'm still looking out for a year later) and Afterskool (once, the naughty boys' corner was occupied and I got jerked off on the seat facing the stage). And another of the small bars where all the girls are from Buriram and buck naked all the time.
M P Lurker
09-26-09, 14:00
Hi guys, I have been reading all these reports in preparation for my first trip to Thailand. I have read about Jungle Jims, Toy Bar, Moonshine Join, Fannys here in the forum and they seem very interesting however do not have a location for them. I plan on visiting them when I am in Thailand. I have tried to do a search for them but did not find their location.
Can someone tell me if they are in Bangkok or Pattaya? Lastly, I would appreciate an address of these bars, are they close to each other? Thanks for any help.
http://www.bangkokeyes.com/mapsoic.html#
And this shows where Soi Cowboy is:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.736717,100.562432&spn=0.005597,0.008519&z=17
M P Lurker
09-26-09, 14:21
Just some added comments, without trying to teach the experienced Tansak anything (of course not).
Cowboy, really is for the tourist and they assume that when you walk in there you don't know any better and you'll pay a higher fee and some try to pull a bait and switch on you (agree to one thing then try another). YES I PULLED FROM COWBOY recently but it really is not filled with wild crazy girls.
Its not JUST for the tourist newbie. Experienced guys go there sometimes.
You gotta work hard and survey the entire place to find what you want and like. Before I found a real diamond in the rough from Dundee of all friggin places and I WOULD NEVER recommend anyone going there as it is a dive.
Its not hard work if you have plenty of free time available.
Some of us don't.
The only thing I can recommend is take a close look at pricing. I overpay as I expect multiple shots and really long time for me. But most girls will want 4 K and expect two pops and then leave or even have the nuts to ask for taxi money. That is the same price you get on Soi 33. They will want lady drinks that are about the size of shots (and the shots are usually watered down). They will push for dinner or this or that etc... In other words some girls you might hook up with will play the game and try to ring you out of a lot of extra baht.
Its a good idea to appear that have some experience to avoid ridiculous prices.
..., but keep and open mind and pick a girl who has good eye contact to you and smiling etc...
Above all pick a girl that seems to react well to you, but not putting on too much of an act playing up to you.
Bear in mind that many girls will look at you much while dancing out of shyness. But some chemistry is essential, if she is sitting with you. Good dancers are often a good choice. She must be capable of having some fun.
... It really is a buyers market now.
Good Luck... Enjoy your planning sessions and I wish you well... I am not slamming you or flaming you at all, I just hope you are not over planning your trip as we have talked via PM on issues. Get some basic info then go with the flow and enjoy. There are times when over planning can ruin your trip.
Just get into the exploring mood, try a few places of contrasting styles. See what happens.
If a newbie, try to resist getting too caught up with a girl until you have had time to do quite abit of surveying.
Almost always you will a hotter girl later, after you have already selected, unless you have arrived too late.
EDIT: recently we had four or five senior ISG members, I think most of us all had over 1,000 posts in thailand, we've known each other for years, we've all been to thailand probably over 30 trips each for most of us, we all have had long term GF's in thaialnd, and were sitting at Baccara. We all thought different girls were hot looking. We liked the looks of some of the same girls but we all found different girls that we liked most. So what one person reports does not mean it will suit you at all.
If we all liked the same girl, there would be big problems.
I found a real diamond in the rough from Dundee of all friggin places
What is a diamond in the rough exactly?
Are we talking about what would be a stunningly gorgeous girl who doesn't have either the experience or polish yet?
Or a girl who isn't quite top notch but has some hint of beauty?
I just say this cuz I see this phrase used a lot, and then sometimes when the photo is shown, I just think, ok that there's not ever gonna be a diamond no matter what.
Some of the most fun I've had in Cowboy has been in Fanny's (went upstairs with a girl I'm still looking out for a year later) and Afterskool (once, the naughty boys' corner was occupied and I got jerked off on the seat facing the stage). And another of the small bars where all the girls are from Buriram and buck naked all the time.
I agree with Rocksoff about Fanny. They do have a naughty boy corner toward the back of the bar where any thing go. For those wanting to hear more graphic detail, PM me.
Reiner Otto
09-26-09, 18:43
I will go to Thailand end of October, for a round-trip within the country. In BKK I want to pick up a travel-companion for my trip.
Is it a good idea simply to try the gogo bars or massage salons, or are there better alternatives, like escort service ?
Or better to try to find a companion in Pattaya ?
Of course, she should be rather good looking. I am a bit spoiled, because actually I am already living for a while in Ukraine. And, besides in Hollywood, here are the real beauties :-)
What is the price range expected by the girl for 2 weeks ?
Member #2041
09-26-09, 19:29
I will go to Thailand end of October, for a round-trip within the country. In BKK I want to pick up a travel-companion for my trip.
Is it a good idea simply to try the gogo bars or massage salons, or are there better alternatives, like escort service ?
Or better to try to find a companion in Pattaya ?
Of course, she should be rather good looking. I am a bit spoiled, because actually I am already living for a while in Ukraine. And, besides in Hollywood, here are the real beauties :-)
What is the price range expected by the girl for 2 weeks ?
Do you go to Newcastle and bring your own coal with you? Do you bring your own rice to the countryside in China?
My experience is, if you actually connect with a lady, it can happen anywhere. But you can't force it. There is nothing I'd enjoy LESS than being with someone for a vacation, when I don't actually enjoy her company and her conversation. As for someone to have sex with - there are plenty of them anywhere you would care to go in Thailand. For cheap. And then you get to send them on their way.
Of all the women I've ever met in Thailand (we're talking about 120-150 or so), exactly two of them were worth keeping around when I wasn't actually fucking them. Paying them and sending them on their way may be the greatest investment of your trip.
I will go to Thailand end of October, for a round-trip within the country. In BKK I want to pick up a travel-companion for my trip.
Is it a good idea simply to try the gogo bars or massage salons, or are there better alternatives, like escort service ?
Or better to try to find a companion in Pattaya ?
Of course, she should be rather good looking. I am a bit spoiled, because actually I am already living for a while in Ukraine. And, besides in Hollywood, here are the real beauties :-)
What is the price range expected by the girl for 2 weeks ?
I think that it's not very difficult to find a travel companion (if it's what you wish) in Bangkok or in Pattaya, but in my humble opinion, you should first try to spend a few days with the girl of your choice before deciding to travel (or not) with her (to be sure that you won't be bored too quickly with this girl).
I would probably choose a freelancer either in Bangkok or in Pattaya: they often can speak English decently enough in these area and are not as spoilt as some gogo or MP girls and would probably be very happy to travel with you (provided that they don't have a Thai boyfriend or children to take care of). Moreover, this would cost you lesser bucks (no barfine and usually more reasonable monetary pretentions).
Many (single) freelancers in Pattaya (prices are a bit higher in Bangkok) would go with you for 1000 or 1500 baht per day (and you should have even less difficulties if you offer them up to 2000 baht per day), but of course, you will have to pay for all the other expenses then (accommodation, food, transportation, shopping - clothes and cosmetics mainly - and probably a few gifts, etc.).
For a gogo or a MP girl and depending on the policy at their working place, you would probably pay twice, thrice or even more than that (including the barfine / take-away fee).
Of course, you have to be careful with certain freelancers because some of them (not that numerous actually) are thieves (in fact, in more than 10 years of active mongering in Thailand mostly with freelancers, I haven't met one of this kind but other people say they have). But if you take some basic precautions, you should not have any problem.
Member #2041
09-26-09, 21:08
I wanted to clarify my post 2 messages down, in which I really shit all over the concept of picking up a Thailand working girl as a travel companion. Here's why:
She's certainly not going to like the food you like. She's certainly not going to enjoy the sort of entertainment you like outside of the bedroom. And she's certainly going to want to yap on her cellphone with her friends all of the time.
IMHO, it is extremely rare that an older farang is going to have anything at all in terms of common interests with any LBFM that he casually meets for sex in Thailand. As I said, I met exactly two of them in the well over 100 ladies that I picked up - and that is out of a sample that was heavily biased in favor of intelligence and English language skills in addition to sexual attractiveness.
You are going to feel like you cannot see the things you wish to see, and do the things you wish to do on your travels, if you are dragging along some Thai girl who has no interest in those things, and is only with you because you are her walking ATM.
Member #3428
09-26-09, 22:53
Are we talking about what would be a stunningly gorgeous girl who doesn't have either the experience or polish yet?
Or a girl who isn't quite top notch but has some hint of beauty
For me it was a girl who got into town and could not put on makeup, had no idea how to dress or walk in high heels, she was a complete isaan farm girl. She was pretty and she had the ability to screw but was not good at sex yet. I spent time with her and taught her things and she was a lovely girl, good heart, beautiful, sweet, etc... I was not such a bastard I could have spent years with her.
I did such a good job that some Farang is happily married to her. But due to his generosity I still get to nail her when I go to BKK while he supports her :D
I wanted to clarify my post 2 messages down, in which I really shit all over the concept of picking up a Thailand working girl as a travel companion. Here's why:
She's certainly not going to like the food you like. She's certainly not going to enjoy the sort of entertainment you like outside of the bedroom. And she's certainly going to want to yap on her cellphone with her friends all of the time.
IMHO, it is extremely rare that an older farang is going to have anything at all in terms of common interests with any LBFM that he casually meets for sex in Thailand. As I said, I met exactly two of them in the well over 100 ladies that I picked up - and that is out of a sample that was heavily biased in favor of intelligence and English language skills in addition to sexual attractiveness.
You are going to feel like you cannot see the things you wish to see, and do the things you wish to do on your travels, if you are dragging along some Thai girl who has no interest in those things, and is only with you because you are her walking ATM.
Quite Right!
Member #3428
09-26-09, 22:59
She's certainly not going to like the food you like. She's certainly not going to enjoy the sort of entertainment you like outside of the bedroom. And she's certainly going to want to yap on her cellphone with her friends all of the time.
Not only this but are they going to let you go out and screw other girls, sit there and watch you screw other girls, or go out and get an meal while you are screwing other girls.
I've meet more then 2 girls for me that I can travel with and such but it isn't many. But I do have to admit it is nice to take a girl for two or three days get aways at times. For two solid weeks... now that is a wife or serious TGF type trip not a pick up a bar girl to go with you type trip.
Anyways I know many girls that will go with him for the money if he wants :D
Member #3428
09-26-09, 23:00
If we all liked the same girl, there would be big problems.
Nah... I'm a good wing man not like Fox2. I always let my elders pick first :D
Stiffoak 571
09-27-09, 00:03
Not only this but are they going to let you go out and screw other girls, sit there and watch you screw other girls, or go out and get an meal while you are screwing other girls.
I've meet more then 2 girls for me that I can travel with and such but it isn't many. But I do have to admit it is nice to take a girl for two or three days get aways at times. For two solid weeks... now that is a wife or serious TGF type trip not a pick up a bar girl to go with you type trip.
Anyways I know many girls that will go with him for the money if he wants :DThis year when I went diving a German guy had brought a Thai girl out on the boat for 4 days. The boat is not designed for comfort with no air con etc so she was quickly unhappy about that. The Thais on the boat were very unsure of her and the rest of us started to hide our money and bits away.
By end of 4 days Thai girl and German are not really talking and she spends all her time playing cards with the cooks on the boat. So it didn't work for him!
Has anyone had any experience with "Volume Pills"? I only see intel on Ogoplex and seminax but the websites all say that Volume Pills are superior in performance. Anyone try these Volume Pills yet? I would appreciate all of your feedback before I make a huge investment.
I tried these before, and saw no results... My opinion, they are a waste of money.
Question one, how much are you willing to pay?
From there suggestions may be able to be made, without knowing your budget its impossible to answer your questions.
I will go to Thailand end of October, for a round-trip within the country. In BKK I want to pick up a travel-companion for my trip.
Is it a good idea simply to try the gogo bars or massage salons, or are there better alternatives, like escort service ?
Or better to try to find a companion in Pattaya ?
Of course, she should be rather good looking. I am a bit spoiled, because actually I am already living for a while in Ukraine. And, besides in Hollywood, here are the real beauties :-)
What is the price range expected by the girl for 2 weeks ?
This year when I went diving a German guy had brought a Thai girl out on the boat for 4 days. The boat is not designed for comfort with no air con etc so she was quickly unhappy about that. The Thais on the boat were very unsure of her and the rest of us started to hide our money and bits away.
By end of 4 days Thai girl and German are not really talking and she spends all her time playing cards with the cooks on the boat. So it didn't work for him!
Life on a boat is already difficult for anyone, even friends
Go imagine what it means with what at the end is a stranger
That maybe you take along mainly for sex.
Could not work even on principles
So no wonder it ended up that way
Has anyone had any experience with "Volume Pills"? I only see intel on Ogoplex and seminax but the websites all say that Volume Pills are superior in performance. Anyone try these Volume Pills yet? I would appreciate all of your feedback before I make a huge investment.Dude, don't waste your money.
Every day: Drink lots of water. Take L-arginine and L-lysine, selenium, zinc, folic acid, and vitamins B12, C, and E. And, make sure to do a few push-ups and some kegels every day too. You'll notice a real difference in about three weeks. (It really does work.)
So then, when you do the deed, delay as long as you can, and when you pull out & pop, you'll hit her in the face with a massive pulsing load (yeah it does feel good doesn't it?) Then she will say, "Oh my! Enchoo you really did miss me!" ;)
Hell, I'm an old fart, old as dirt. I cum in buckets and chicks really do dig it (something about fertility & female psychology.)
Volume pills don't do shit.
I wanted to clarify my post 2 messages down, in which I really shit all over the concept of picking up a Thailand working girl as a travel companion. Here's why:
She's certainly not going to like the food you like. She's certainly not going to enjoy the sort of entertainment you like outside of the bedroom. And she's certainly going to want to yap on her cellphone with her friends all of the time.
IMHO, it is extremely rare that an older farang is going to have anything at all in terms of common interests with any LBFM that he casually meets for sex in Thailand. As I said, I met exactly two of them in the well over 100 ladies that I picked up - and that is out of a sample that was heavily biased in favor of intelligence and English language skills in addition to sexual attractiveness.
You are going to feel like you cannot see the things you wish to see, and do the things you wish to do on your travels, if you are dragging along some Thai girl who has no interest in those things, and is only with you because you are her walking ATM.Well, depends what you're after...
I spend a lot of time with one girl (the Shrimp). Having met her once in BKK, on my next trip I then paid for her company for 6 days, although I suggested we reviewed that after a couple of days. It went well.
She acts as my guide. I only eat Thai food in Thailand so she is responsible for choosing our food every day. She also teaches me about Thailand and it's customs, shows me a few interesting places that she knows about, negotiates a 'local' discount on all products and services, etc. She is fun to be with.
I have told her that I have no problem with her talking on her phone to her friends, including other customers, but she only does it in moderation. She took me to see the shows at AngelWitch ('Gosh, dear, do they have dancing girls here? I never realised!') and quite enjoyed them herself.
She has some great stories, and we have a surprising amount in common...
Having said all that, it's important to give yourself a bit of space, and I occasionally go and 'work' in a bar or invent business meetings. But if you start with the premise that they are LBFM then I guess you're going to find it hard to click.
Dude, don't waste your money.
Every day: Drink lots of water. Take L-arginine and L-lysine, selenium, zinc, folic acid, and vitamins B12, C, and E. And, make sure to do a few push-ups and some kegels every day too. You'll notice a real difference in about three weeks. (It really does work.)
So then, when you do the deed, delay as long as you can, and when you pull out & pop, you'll hit her in the face with a massive pulsing load (yeah it does feel good doesn't it?) Then she will say, "Oh my! Enchoo you really did miss me!"
Hell, I'm an old fart, old as dirt. I cum in buckets and chicks really do dig it (something about fertility & female psychology.)
Volume pills don't do shit.For those here in long term. If you are over 60 take natural Chinese herb here in Bangkok. The most powerfull fruit is he goji fruit its recongnize as the most powerfull and complete herbal medicine fruit. A part for sexual power it works for overweight and general week health problem especially if you over 60. You can have a health check at the Chinese clinic hua chiew here in Bangkok. Its the bumrungrad hospital for the Chinese but a lot cheaper.
Can associate some acupunture session with it. Generaly you can make a three month cure every year and have updated checks with Chinese doctor. Tongue pouls diagnostic for prevention for the specific health problem once over 60. You are going to be radically free of health problem if you have this treatment. Hua Chiew is the top in asia may be in the world after the head hospital in shanghai. They cure some cancer prostata or better prevention program.
I am 55. Three years ago 92kg (of course a lot of beer chang and gin tonic thai wisky) nowadays 78 kg body free of health problems. And they say it will be for a long time if doing this treatment and eat no fat and be care of the beer and so on. Sex power? I think I have it under control three time per day nowadays with good feeling no problem.
So. A solution for all the health problem or call it prevention to be never seek. Chinese medicin and acupunture. Hua chiew Chinese clinic Bangkok.
If any interest for more info pm me.
Bamboo Pete
09-27-09, 10:30
i stayed in grand mercure, soi 19, as it was available on special rate 1800 b. top hotel, 100% gf, fitness center, swimming pool, inroom safe.
day 1:
went to akane. i was there several times but always just with one girl. this time i tried 70 min fashion massage (1920 b) with two girls in peep inn and i enjoyed it a lot. much more privacy as in the akane „rooms".
chose karen and fuyu. both nice and good performers, did lots of dfk. would choose karen if i had to decide.
peep inn has not the magic chair, but i got the finger when i was cleaned by both girls in the bath tab. moved over to the bed after a while and they started the tongue massage. this was not better as with just one girls and after a while i turned over. and yes, in peep inn they do bbbj.
it really feels fantastic when you have a tongue or a pussy in your month and the other one blows you. after a while they changed and the same great feeling.
they finished me by one of them working on my back door and the other made a mix of bj and hj (no cim). tipped them 200 b each.
after akane i went straight to tulip. haha, no, not what you think, i'm not superman. i asked for the picture book and chose a girl to come to my hotel the next day. paid 1000 b for outcall.
day 2:
i had read a lot in the tulip forum and had some names on my virtual list. when i saw fa's picture, i immediatelly booked her.
somebody in this forum said, fa is like a little princess. i 100% agree. it was gfe from the first minute and you would never expect she's a top performer when you just see her.
her service was described serveral times, so i don't go into details, there is no taboo and she seems to enjoy everything. even between the sessions, she is fun and she gave a good massage. i will book her again next time i come to bangkok. well deserved 2000 b.
day 3:
went to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s at 1pm. i don't really like to get blown behind the curtain and at this time, when it's not busy, you can ask to go to the room. this room is not special, there is just an old sofa in it, but you have more privacy. i always bring my own towel to sit on.
took my time to choose my girl, looked at them and saw a little twincle and a smile at one of them. chose her and up we went. her name is mew, very nice girl. when the session started, she said „just tell me what you like, i can do everything.". that's like music in my ears. so i took the option to let her not just suck, but also play with my balls and back door. finished with cim without wasting one drop.
price is still 700 b. usually i tip 100 b to the girl but this time i tipped 200 b. great service.
i had been at soi cowboy every day as it is just walking distance from soi 19. no bf the first two days but did some preparations. had some drinks with a girl from long gun and intended to bf her. ann, a real beauty, 9/10 on my scale. very limited english and quite shy on the stage. usually i don't bf stunners as usually no good service but i couldn't resist her.
i did not expect much but i was surprised. long time dfk and enjoyed daty. moved easily into all positions. good experience. st 2000 b.
last day:
not much time anymore, so i decided to go to an oily in soi 19. exclusive massage, near hotel uno in a sub soi. at 2 pm just 3 girls available. two looked quite good on the photo and i chose fon. she was called and when i saw her i knew, i would not go into fs with her. pretty face as on the photo, but very small (ca. 150) and chubby.
anyway, massage was good and when time came for extras i told her „just bj". she asked at least ten times if i don't want fs, which was kind of nerving. bbbj started in the shower (to wash off the oil and ended on the bench (no cim). damage 400 b for oily and 1000 b for bj.
well, 4 out of 5 sessons were great, that's quite satisfying. what i really miss in bangkok is a bj street like santos in a. c. the big advantage is that you can call your blow jobber into your room without extra charge. guess where i stay now. pacific breeze, just 1 minute away from santos.
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Travel Spirit
09-27-09, 12:33
Is there any list of Bangkok's G-Clubs?
On my first trip to Bangkok, my bar fined girlfriend taught me a lesson on tipping protocol that I've never seen discussed here. In most clubs, a waitress will return your drink change to you on a tray. Whatever you leave on the tray gets split among the wait staff. If you remove the change from the tray and place it directly in the hand of the waitress, she gets to keep it all. So if your waitress has been particularly nice to you, you can tip her exclusively. Believe me, she'll appreciate the gesture.
In my years of mongering I have learned that girl attitude goes a long way in determining whether or not you are going to pick a winner. Girls who come to work to work, i.e., smile and work for customers are far more likely to fit the bill.
Case in point was my very last night in Bangkok. Picked a gal who I had some reservations about, the staring in the mirror self-absorbed attitude. The result was the same, she ended up to be a disaster.
Shortly later, went back to a club a few doors down where the gals were working the customers, i.e., walking around the bar talking and joking. Picked the gal I was originally going to go with and she turned out to be a real winner.
Last comment, on my last night my friend and I went to Patpong and wound up at a club called Knights Corner. The majority of the gals were tall stunners, I mean stunners. You should have seen the attitude there. After each dance session the gals, on cue, paraded around the bar looking for someone to sit with. Found out that the bar fine was 500bht and 3000bht for the gal. Let me tell you, if it was not my last night (had to get up very early for a plane) I would have gladly paid it.
I pretty much agree with Barko.
Only the most brazen slutty girls (in the view of some) are really going to oggle the ugly customers, or even the handsome ones. Girls do not generally want to appear that slutty. This is not really my opinion but considering Thai social norms.
They are bored out of their brains dancing gogo to same songs from yester-year day in and day out. They may have serious money problems causing them not to be particularly happy.
The obvious place for them to gaze is in the mirror where can see yourself and the other girls well. Can then compare dancing styles and looks. They may not be looking at anything in particular - "jai loi" (which means a floating mind).
Why try the come on to a Farang only to get rejected. Its much easier to wait for the Farang to come to the girl.
I usually reject girls that put on a big act for me, prefering the more natural girls.
Only a small percentage of girls have so much confidence that they seriously think they can hook their preferred guy.
I have even met very shy girls who looked stunning in the bar.
Who cares what the IQ of the girl is? I don't go there looking for a deep and meaningful conversation. I would rather have a sweet nice girl with fab looks, that is willing to relax and have a good time while making some money, than a super intellegent one that will try to manipulate me.
Like Barko says. I sit and watch umpteen girls. I decide I like one. I wave at her and if she spots me then I make the motion of having a drink so she knows. If she is facing a different way, I may be forced to walk right up to the stage in front of her, to invite her over. That way she just cannot miss me. I don't waste too much time inviting her over, in case another customer should invite her first.
After a chat/drink, I can always change my mind, and call a different one later. Or to keep them guessing, invite two or three girls, and then later decide which one is best.
P.S. Girls that already have a customer, will certainly have no reason to be catching your eye!
Last comment, on my last night my friend and I went to Patpong and wound up at a club called Knights Corner. The majority of the gals were tall stunners, I mean stunners. You should have seen the attitude there. After each dance session the gals, on cue, paraded around the bar looking for someone to sit with. Found out that the bar fine was 500bht and 3000bht for the gal. Let me tell you, if it was not my last night (had to get up very early for a plane) I would have gladly paid it.
If you mean "KINGS CORNER" I think you have a 50/50 chance of getting a fake girl there!
In my years of mongering I have learned that girl attitude goes a long way in determining whether or not you are going to pick a winner. Girls who come to work to work, I. E., smile and work for customers are far more likely to fit the bill.My latest little squeezie is so shy. She hates getting on the stage and she hides near the back door of the bar. She hasn't been working there long, about a month, and she only goes with guys that are able to draw her out. Of those that have caught her attention, every single farang, yes every single one, speaks Thai. (Golly gee.)
She never ever looks at guys while she is dancing, ever. Dudes try to give her tips for nothing. She won't take them, she looks at the mamasan, closes her eyes for a moment, then doesn't take the money. It must be embarrassing for the Japanese guy trying to pass the cash, and really it's not because she is stuck up at all, it's because she is a real Thai girl.
She is a 9.5 in looks and a 10+ in the sack. She's from Si Sa Ket and burned by her Thai BF (aren't they all.) No, of course not, she doesn't belong there working in a bar, but I would choose a girl like her over 99% of all the other bar babies 100% of the time, and I am sure most other old pro Thai expats would too. There's just something about these kinds of girls, and it takes an experienced eye to find them. Thailand is a mongering country like no other, and the experience with these kinds of girls is like no other as well.
So, the difference between this kind of chick, and a typical LOS ho is like night and day.
Speak Thai, learn how to make your eyes into a set of landing lights on a 747, and your smile into a 'deer in headlights' tractor beam. Be a wizard of fun, and magician of mirth. Then you'll score the best there is (in this country) but I guess the same could be said anywhere.
I am reminded of the old scene outside the Siam Hotel on a rainy night. The girls would stand perfectly still, like little porcelain dolls under their umbrellas, just waiting for a guy with enough moxie to make his move. All hell broke loose when you got her up to bed. It was all a matter of knowing how to make it work.
Anyway, you just get so you can tell the difference between the shy uber goodies packing monster heat and the dead starfish just ready to ruin your evening. When they flirt and motion to you while on stage it only means they are hungry or need to fill the quota, it doesn't mean that they really give a fat fuck about taking care of you when you are in the room later, not at all.
Thai girls!
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Kings Corner!?! Yea, they look great but its like a box of Cracker-Jack...and the constant hard sell they use doesn't help. And dont forget to remember - if it looks too good to be true...
If you mean "KINGS CORNER" I think you have a 50/50 chance of getting a fake girl there!
You nailed it. The elusive diamond in the rough........
[QUOTE=Barko]My latest little squeezie is so shy. She hates getting on the stage and she hides near the back door of the bar. She hasn't been working there long, about a month, and she only goes with guys that are able to draw her out. Of those that have caught her attention, every single farang, yes every single one, speaks Thai. (Golly gee.)
She never ever looks at guys while she is dancing, ever. Dudes try to give her tips for nothing. She won't take them, she looks at the mamasan, closes her eyes for a moment, then doesn't take the money. It must be embarrassing for the Japanese guy trying to pass the cash, and really it's not because she is stuck up at all, it's because she is a real Thai girl.
She is a 9.5 in looks and a 10+ in the sack. She's from Si Sa Ket and burned by her Thai BF (aren't they all.) No, of course not, she doesn't belong there working in a bar, but I would choose a girl like her over 99% of all the other bar babies 100% of the time, and I am sure most other old pro Thai expats would too. There's just something about these kinds of girls, and it takes an experienced eye to find them. Thailand is a mongering country like no other, and the experience with these kinds of girls is like no other as well.
So, the difference between this kind of chick, and a typical LOS ho is like night and day.
QUOTE]
She hasn't been working there long, about a month, and she only goes with guys that are able to draw her out. Of those that have caught her attention, every single farang, yes every single one, speaks Thai.
Not a diamond! A month is way too long. What you have more like a piece of gold.
How about a newbie only in the bar a few days and never gone with a farang. That is more like a "diamond in the rough" .
Primo Bolan
09-27-09, 20:24
Was asked 1500+bf baht shortime with a really nice stunner from Nana today.
She told me that before it was 2000. What I can remember is that last year I took one from the same agogo for 2000 longtime and she was also a really nice one. Think it must depend on each girl and how bad I smell.
PB
Yes!!!!!!!!
Not a diamond! A month is way too long. What you have more like a piece of gold.
How about a newbie only in the bar a few days and never gone with a farang. That is more like a "diamond in the rough" .
...She is a 9.5 in looks and a 10+ in the sack... she doesn't belong there working in a bar,...
She does now :D
I am 55. Fifty-five? Cool, give me a call in ten years, we'll do lunch.
I think you missed my point Jeff46.
I'm 65, look 45, feel 35, and bang chicks like I'm 25. I learned moderation only from way overdoing EVERYTHING in my youth (the "X Games" got nuttin on me.) A horndog poster boy for 'Ritalin', they didn't even think of prescribing it cause I made too much money and they were afraid to fuck up the gravy train.)
Having the time of my life these days and yeah I'm in it for the long run, (my pop is in his late 90's and loving every minute of it.)
Ever thought about investing in a "Wii" Jeff? That thing has done more for me today than TCM & Moxa acupuncture ever did back in the 80's. :D
Glad you are feeling better!
Thanks.
B.
Hey guys,
As this forum was invaluable before I came out (and most Sexpats keep saying I don't feel like a first timer to them so I repeatedly recommend ISG.) I thought it only fair I repay the faith with my own first impressions of the City of Angels.
For any brits who haven't experienced the P4P scene outside Europe I would recommend Beer Garden for assimilation purposes (note. It is not a beer garden.) for two reasons. A) there is no bar fine and b) it is the closest thing to our most common way of pulling. Meet chick in bar, buy couple of drinks, have chat, go back to hotel.
DO NOT bet a girl she can drink a Heineken in one. A) you'll end up out of pocket because she will, and b) you'll have a yabbering, incoherent girl in your room shortly after. After telling her it was time to go about 10 times I had to pick her up and put her down near her clothes so she got the message. The other girl I found in Beer Garden was a dream, but we'll leave that one there, I don't want you Ba$t$rds swamping her!
From reading this forum I had settled on NEP as my number one target for good times. Hell fire, I could not be more let down. It is like Leeds indoor market was in the 80's. Run down, dirty, lopsided looking, slight smell of fish. Jesus, I walked round on two nights and between avoiding the LB's everywhere and the puddles it seemed like a real waste of time and was glad to see the exit and return to relative normality. Much better (for me personally) to sit at Golden next to the Parking Lot and watch the girls work the wallets (sorry, punters.). Although last night I really felt sorry for the tiny thing being dragged along by the 30 stone sumo wrestler. Or the big 75 yr old looking guy taking home what looked to me to be a heart attack sandwich (no, it wasn't Elvis style deep fried crap. It was a pair of saucy looking minxes)
If you leave Nana and walk down Suk (after crossing first) there are girls on the street all day for you. Obviously higher risk factor because no one to complain to. But if you are sensible (checking for the signs, like you would if you picked any girl off of any street, don't leave anything lying around etc) then you'll be OK.
Street bars. They pop up after the market stalls close and can be great. Just make sure you establish the prices you are paying so no one can roll you over. Met a great girl at one near my last hotel, had Tom Yam with her, a fellow Brit, then back to the room. When she demanded it again even though she had to go at 6 to sort her child out (it was 5:50) I just had to smile inside. She was just so damn horny, wants me to go back this evening and take her home ASAP. But I'm going to Patts now so may come back before home time for round two.
Cowboy. For anyone with an Upskirt fetish, you must, must, must visit Baccara (t? ). Right at the very end on the left. Glass dancefloor with girls in schooly uniforms and no panties dancing. Cool part of it? They are on the floor above you! I had 20 girls dancing infront of me less than a breath away and if I looked them twice I wouldn't know. The view from above was too much. If I could have not blinked I'd be one happy pervert. Excellent!
Massage. It is harder to find straight massage near Suk than not. Every one I have had offered extras, one just grabbed my hand about 5 mins into it and put it on her already soaking pussy. Even the one I told several times that I only wanted straight massage kept fondling me. You can get 1hr thai for 250bt just up from Times Square (again, on Suk between Nana and Cowboy but on Nana side of road) but they are everywhere anyway.
Finally food. Street food is everywhere, some look cleaner than others. Choice is yours. If you want risk free and fairly cheap food I can recommend Foodland (one soi over from Beer Garden). It is always busy (the best indicator) but is in the front of a very clean supermarket. Yesterday I had chicken and fried rice, a nice lime squash and some ice cream for 120bt. Winner.
Sorry, one more thing. Maintaining politeness, deference and great manners will definitely bring you advantages here. Also, the bigger the smile the more the girls like you. I have a massive cheesy grin and it seems to be like a lighthouse beacon for girls out here. From 'Sawatdee Ka, thankyou for smiling sir' from the market stall / massage girls, right through to dancing girls focusing on you just to draw a reaction! If you can smile lots and show deference you've a step ahead already.
Apologies to the regulars who know and see this stuff every day, but this is for the wide eyed newbies, not you hardened, cynical Vets.
Thanks everyone.
Mr B
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M P Lurker
09-28-09, 10:15
My latest little squeezie is so shy. She hates getting on the stage and she hides near the back door of the bar. She hasn't been working there long, about a month, and she only goes with guys that are able to draw her out. Of those that have caught her attention, every single farang, yes every single one, speaks Thai. (Golly gee.)
She never ever looks at guys while she is dancing, ever. Dudes try to give her tips for nothing. She won't take them, she looks at the mamasan, closes her eyes for a moment, then doesn't take the money. It must be embarrassing for the Japanese guy trying to pass the cash, and really it's not because she is stuck up at all, it's because she is a real Thai girl.
She is a 9.5 in looks and a 10+ in the sack. She's from Si Sa Ket and burned by her Thai BF (aren't they all.) No, of course not, she doesn't belong there working in a bar, but I would choose a girl like her over 99% of all the other bar babies 100% of the time, and I am sure most other old pro Thai expats would too. There's just something about these kinds of girls, and it takes an experienced eye to find them. Thailand is a mongering country like no other, and the experience with these kinds of girls is like no other as well.
So, the difference between this kind of chick, and a typical LOS ho is like night and day.
Speak Thai, learn how to make your eyes into a set of landing lights on a 747, and your smile into a 'deer in headlights' tractor beam. Be a wizard of fun, and magician of mirth. Then you'll score the best there is (in this country) but I guess the same could be said anywhere.
I am reminded of the old scene outside the Siam Hotel on a rainy night. The girls would stand perfectly still, like little porcelain dolls under their umbrellas, just waiting for a guy with enough moxie to make his move. All hell broke loose when you got her up to bed. It was all a matter of knowing how to make it work.
Anyway, you just get so you can tell the difference between the shy uber goodies packing monster heat and the dead starfish just ready to ruin your evening. When they flirt and motion to you while on stage it only means they are hungry or need to fill the quota, it doesn't mean that they really give a fat fuck about taking care of you when you are in the room later, not at all.
Thai girls!
I also have met this type of girl in the bar and was attracted. The girl might go with you and have a great time, if the chemistry is right. On the otherhand she might end up just being incredibly frustrating and always find some excuse not to go to bed with you, and be your friend instead.
Speaking Thai helps but is not necessarily going to charm her. If you manage to work out how to push the right buttons, great!
So generally these girls are intriguing because they are so choosy, but hard to get to. So in general, I don't recommend it for the average guy.
Money doesn't always work.
M P Lurker
09-28-09, 10:32
In my years of mongering I have learned that girl attitude goes a long way in determining whether or not you are going to pick a winner. Girls who come to work to work, i.e., smile and work for customers are far more likely to fit the bill.
If your type of girl is the one who really likes being in a bar, great. That's not the best girl for all of us.
But seriously, many great girls don't like to be there and maybe having a not so great time (bored to death). But give them a chance to change dramatically when called over for a drink. If they still act negatively to your attempted entertainment and chat up, O.K. ditch them as a lost cause. But if they start to smile at you and laugh now, O.K. you have cured their boredom perhaps.
Their is nothing wrong with calling over multiple girls till you find one you are really happy with. If the first girl gives you misgivings, fine, call another one.
I like to see how a girl reacts after a couple of alcoholic drinks, assuming she is not drunk already. But alcohol can reveal bad character traits. Transforms some people into dogs (with apologies to the canine variety).
But many girls turn into really fun types after a SMALL number of drinks and loosens inhibitions, should they have any.
I always like to ask girls who their special friends are as well. As this helps shed light on their character.
M P Lurker
09-28-09, 10:45
If you mean "KINGS CORNER" I think you have a 50/50 chance of getting a fake girl there!
Yes and all those extra tall ones with exaggerated come-on attitude are very likely to be katoeys. I am not aware of the ratio, but I once (a few years back) went into a Patpong bar, perhaps not King's Corner, where I thought they were virtually all ladyboys. Maybe it was Casanova, but this corner of Patpong road is the most heavily infested with Ladyboys.
http://www.bangkokeyes.com/mappat1.html
A quote from:
http://www.bangkok.com/nightlife-go-go-bar/patpong.html
"When it comes to go-go bars, favoured establishments on Soi 1 include King's Castle I and II, Sphinx and the Safari Bar, while King's Corner has the largest collection of post-operative transsexuals in Bangkok."
I also have met this type of girl in the bar and was attracted. The girl might go with you and have a great time, if the chemistry is right. On the otherhand she might end up just being incredibly frustrating and always find some excuse not to go to bed with you, and be your friend instead.
Speaking Thai helps but is not necessarily going to charm her. If you manage to work out how to push the right buttons, great!
So generally these girls are intriguing because they are so choosy, but hard to get to. So in general, I don't recommend it for the average guy.
Money doesn't always work.Yep, I know. I'm in a holding pattern, just playing it as it goes. It'll wear off, it always does. It's just chemicals after all. She and I do hit on all eight though. You and I both know that there are lots of these kinds of girls out there, they are called normal Thai girls, and you just don't find them in a bar very often, this was a fluke. She isn't moving into the condo just yet though Mick. Heh.
Of course, she and I both know that it's about money to some extent, but it's not why we are so relaxed together. One thing is, and consider this very carefully: she sings when she does the dishes, (beautifully.)
Normal mongering tourists will have a hard time getting up on this highway though, even if you do speak a little Thai. There's no road map and no way to navigate without a healthy dose of experience with Thai women.
Make it fun, make it light, make it easy. Sounds simple enough, but it takes experiences, and lots of them, to get there, and even more to stay there.
Money doesn't always work.
In a p4p environment, money always does work! If it doesn't, get the higher-ups involved and start handing out cash (may cost a bundle). You may not get a happy girl, but you will get the girl.
Rambis Youth
09-28-09, 13:48
On my first trip to Bangkok, my bar fined girlfriend taught me a lesson on tipping protocol that I've never seen discussed here. In most clubs, a waitress will return your drink change to you on a tray. Whatever you leave on the tray gets split among the wait staff. If you remove the change from the tray and place it directly in the hand of the waitress, she gets to keep it all. So if your waitress has been particularly nice to you, you can tip her exclusively. Believe me, she'll appreciate the gesture.
Yes, that's always been my understanding.
Member #4285
09-28-09, 14:53
(sorry for some bad english)
17th sept i had sex with 3 girls in artemis. all bbbj and covered penetration.
19th sept i had sex with 1 girl in golden time. bbbj and covered penetration.
24th sep im starting to have som real pain in the area between my anus and balls and its all read. now, between 23-25th sept i have rented a scooter and the damn seat is so uncomfortable and giving me pain in the ass because im sweating all the time and when the sweat dry and i dont have a shower in hands there always is some read and pain between my legs. often when i exercise to and the legas is rubbing each other. i hope you understand what i mean.
okey, then i arrive to bangkok on the 26:th and have no plans to have sex because the mixed feelings and moral issues i got after my german trip. but.. i go out first night to a disco and get drunk and meat this "freelancer" thaigirl. im buying drinks and beer and we end up in my hotel. i think i have read on this forum that "up to you" is a warning sign. anyway we got to sleep and the next day she gives me 2 x bbbj and 2 times covered penetration. then i buy here a dinner and after that i gave her 3000 bath and we say goodbuy and she is sad i dont wont to go out more with her. i dont know if thats to less or much but she were with me in disco from 04.00-07.00 and then on hotel from 07.00-21.00 and dinner 21.00-23.00.
at the dinner im strarting to feel that hm, maybe she aint so sweet as i first thought. i saw some picatures on the cellphone and she were sorry to say much better looking on a bad resolution phone than irl. okey, still a fine girl but she looked a little rough now and dropped som weight. anyway, she shows me all the messages from other men (why?) and told me how one have send here 10.000 tbh etc etc. she sad she looking for a boyfriend so she can quit her job as a "freelancer dancer". when i asked her why she didnt try to get another job her answer was "i like dancing"...
so im started to feeling its maybe best to say goodbay and so and dont get involved in something i dont want and dont have much experience with. well, in the morning 09.00 next day the hotelreception wakes me up and say that its a girl down here that whant to speek with me. i take the call and dont understand first who it is. then i got it and she is beging me to bring her up etc. im telling her, how can you come to my hotel and ask my this and why cant you accept a no? for 5 minutes im telling her to please, dont do this to me and that she aint so sweet anymore when she cant take and accept a no. i had to hang up because she did not want to and otherwise we would have talked in hours. then i cant sleep and thinking that what will happend now.. and a letter slides under my hoteldoor. she writes (brought up with the reception) "up to you.. i dont think money, you think i want money.. its up to you.. you no good man now" etc.
so, now im afraid and thinks hey, maybe this pain aint just tears? so now, even if i dont want to contact her because if i have som shit with me from germany and maybe she got it now, or maybe i got something more from here besides the germany-thing. not like im afraid that something will hapend but damn im so tired of drama. in all ways. but, i dont blame anyone than myself. i didnt thought it was so easy to get std with bbbj because they all give it and all seems to receive it.
my long story ends with that today i went to the clinic i read about in the "safe sex section" that is on rajadamri road. when i got in i was shoked over how tha place were run. sorry, i dont want to hurt anyones feelings or disrespect or insult the thaipeople but i got scared and went out. the old doctor, 70? and the sister (70) were nice but when i saw how theplace looked like i thought i will get something if i undress here. maybe im not used to how things is in the asia and had to much feelings with the possible herpes and the gril and hotel etc. maybe i were at the wrong place? but that map and road were right..
tomorrow im booked to see a doctor in bamrungrad hospital and see if it's herpes or just som tears. but i never had this pain before and now i maybe got the lifetime herpes, and even worse, hiv at the same time. but the hiv i have to wait 3 mothns right?
my asien trip could not start worse, or maybe it could but.. but, as i sad, its only my fault that it has ended up this way.
any feedback to kid "crybaby" icarus? =(
To each his own.
I also like the idea of seeing how a gal reacts after a drink or two (or three). This can backfire if the gal turns out to be a real lush. Had this happen in the Philippines with disaterous results, the gal actually threw up with my dick in her mouth.
However, sometimes the problem is the "ladies drink" itself. Unless its beer, many times you never know if they are getting the real thing.
But seriously, many great girls don't like to be there and maybe having a not so great time (bored to death). But give them a chance to change dramatically when called over for a drink. If they still act negatively to your attempted entertainment and chat up, O.K. ditch them as a lost cause. But if they start to smile at you and laugh now, O.K. you have cured their boredom perhaps.
Their is nothing wrong with calling over multiple girls till you find one you are really happy with. If the first girl gives you misgivings, fine, call another one.
I like to see how a girl reacts after a couple of alcoholic drinks, assuming she is not drunk already. But alcohol can reveal bad character traits. Transforms some people into dogs (with apologies to the canine variety).
But many girls turn into really fun types after a SMALL number of drinks and loosens inhibitions, should they have any.
I always like to ask girls who their special friends are as well. As this helps shed light on their character.[/QUOTE]
Kid Icarus,
Not a doctor but this remember me on haemorohide not std. Your red is blood from open m haemoroide. Check with hotel just go to any clinic ne
Exec Talent
09-28-09, 18:08
The author mentions several times that his objective for writing this book was making money to finance future sexual tourism trips. It is obvious that it was not written for the benefit of the reader since most of the content is not the author’s firsthand experiences, but taken (without the original author’s knowledge or permission in at least one case) from the internet. The book is 210 pages, double-spaced and in large font type which means it is more like 50 pages. The book reads more like a high school book report that the student waited until the last weekend to write than a travelogue.
Often the author distorts facts for effect. “In Rio, you’ll find brothels in shopping malls, across the street from churches, and next door to banks. As you weave through the throngs of shoppers … it’s impossible to miss the garish sign for …, a *****house on the top level of an open air mall.” In reality, the brothel is located far away from the majority of pedestrian foot traffic and the sign is barely noticeable from the street.
The highlight of the book, if there is one, is when the author writes about something that has nothing to do with sexual tourism, but is about his appearance on the web site http://www.bethemask.com/tour1/britt...ey3/index.htm? where he has sex while his face is covered in a Mexican wrestling mask.
Given that the majority of the book is taken from the internet and not original content, save your money and simply do an internet search of your favorite destination. I purchased the book on Amazon which fortunately has a return policy. Sorry, Joe, not going to be financing your trip on my dollars.
(sorry for some bad english)
17th sept i had sex with 3 girls in artemis. all bbbj and covered penetration.
19th sept i had sex with 1 girl in golden time. bbbj and covered penetration.
24th sep im starting to have som real pain in the area between my anus and balls and its all read. now, between 23-25th sept i have rented a scooter and the damn seat is so uncomfortable and giving me pain in the ass because im sweating all the time and when the sweat dry and i dont have a shower in hands there always is some read and pain between my legs. often when i exercise to and the legas is rubbing each other. i hope you understand what i mean.
okey, then i arrive to bangkok on the 26:th and have no plans to have sex because the mixed feelings and moral issues i got after my german trip. but.. i go out first night to a disco and get drunk and meat this "freelancer" thaigirl. im buying drinks and beer and we end up in my hotel. i think i have read on this forum that "up to you" is a warning sign. anyway we got to sleep and the next day she gives me 2 x bbbj and 2 times covered penetration. then i buy here a dinner and after that i gave her 3000 bath and we say goodbuy and she is sad i dont wont to go out more with her. i dont know if thats to less or much but she were with me in disco from 04.00-07.00 and then on hotel from 07.00-21.00 and dinner 21.00-23.00.
at the dinner im strarting to feel that hm, maybe she aint so sweet as i first thought. i saw some picatures on the cellphone and she were sorry to say much better looking on a bad resolution phone than irl. okey, still a fine girl but she looked a little rough now and dropped som weight. anyway, she shows me all the messages from other men (why?) and told me how one have send here 10.000 tbh etc etc. she sad she looking for a boyfriend so she can quit her job as a "freelancer dancer". when i asked her why she didnt try to get another job her answer was "i like dancing"...
so im started to feeling its maybe best to say goodbay and so and dont get involved in something i dont want and dont have much experience with. well, in the morning 09.00 next day the hotelreception wakes me up and say that its a girl down here that whant to speek with me. i take the call and dont understand first who it is. then i got it and she is beging me to bring her up etc. im telling her, how can you come to my hotel and ask my this and why cant you accept a no? for 5 minutes im telling her to please, dont do this to me and that she aint so sweet anymore when she cant take and accept a no. i had to hang up because she did not want to and otherwise we would have talked in hours. then i cant sleep and thinking that what will happend now.. and a letter slides under my hoteldoor. she writes (brought up with the reception) "up to you.. i dont think money, you think i want money.. its up to you.. you no good man now" etc.
so, now im afraid and thinks hey, maybe this pain aint just tears? so now, even if i dont want to contact her because if i have som shit with me from germany and maybe she got it now, or maybe i got something more from here besides the germany-thing. not like im afraid that something will hapend but damn im so tired of drama. in all ways. but, i dont blame anyone than myself. i didnt thought it was so easy to get std with bbbj because they all give it and all seems to receive it.
my long story ends with that today i went to the clinic i read about in the "safe sex section" that is on rajadamri road. when i got in i was shoked over how tha place were run. sorry, i dont want to hurt anyones feelings or disrespect or insult the thaipeople but i got scared and went out. the old doctor, 70? and the sister (70) were nice but when i saw how theplace looked like i thought i will get something if i undress here. maybe im not used to how things is in the asia and had to much feelings with the possible herpes and the gril and hotel etc. maybe i were at the wrong place? but that map and road were right..
tomorrow im booked to see a doctor in bamrungrad hospital and see if it's herpes or just som tears. but i never had this pain before and now i maybe got the lifetime herpes, and even worse, hiv at the same time. but the hiv i have to wait 3 mothns right?
my asien trip could not start worse, or maybe it could but.. but, as i sad, its only my fault that it has ended up this way.
any feedback to kid "crybaby" icarus? =(
if you are referring to the red cross on rajadamri, and to the old doctor, well she has been turning out excellent reports and service for many a year now, on par with anything you will get in bumrungrad and bkk general for a fraction of the price. red cross tests are accurate, confidential, and highly professional, i've been using them for 6-7 years now and have nothing but good things to say about them.
Member #4285
09-28-09, 22:44
Kid Icarus,
Not a doctor but this remember me on haemorohide not std. Your red is blood from open m haemoroide. Check with hotel just go to any clinic ne
I'll hope but I'm afraid of to hope to much. I will see a doctor in the morning, I got an apointment. I'll update. But what ive been searching on internet it sounds to me like Herpes. Right now I cant even leave the hotelroom until im checked, cant see the fun with the trip anymore. Dont want to sound like a sissy, but this was not a fun start on the trip.
Hello Kid Icarus
You made the right decision about the girl... ...Anyway enjoy your stay and don't think too much about this free lance dancer.
Yes, it sounds like a typical story. I thought I was preperd and had read all information I needed for my first visit in Thailand. Im just to blueyed and think the best of all. I could just not belive that she came to my hotel without asking (but ok, she could not contact me in any other way..) and its not just a little 1 star hotel, its a big buisness 4-5 star hotel. I just did not expect to hear from her so soon. I wonder in witch condition she were in. On the phone she sad that the reason she came were just to sleep, because she couldnt go home because her roommate something bla bla. I mean, I dropped her off 23.00 with 3000 TBH in purse and she need to visit me?
Im a thinker I guess, and everybody says that to me: you think to much! =)
if you are referring to the Red Cross on Rajadamri, and to the old doctor, well she has been turning out excellent reports and service for many a year now, on par with anything you will get in Bumrungrad and Bkk General for a fraction of the price. Red Cross tests are accurate, confidential, and highly professional, I've been using them for 6-7 years now and have nothing but good things to say about them.
Hm, I understand but when I saw the place and the tools and stuff laying around I went scared. It looked like a hospital from the 30's. I really dont want to insult anyone but for me, I thought that I was at the wrong place. Maybe I will give it a try next time if I need to. I think there was a clock-seller beside the entrance. On the sign outside it just stod "clinic" and noathing with Red Cross or something. Wait, when im now looking at the map I see that I crossed (from south to north) a river on a small bridge and then turned left. Could I went to the wrong place? I think im must have been on the phetchaburi street just a little up and a river between from Rajdamri. Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=sv&geocode=&q=rajadamri+bangkok&sll=13.749223,100.542326&sspn=0.00619,0.021973&ie=UTF8&ll=13.748973,100.543334&spn=0.00619,0.021973&z=16
Hm, here is another Red Cross Clinic on rama road:
http://www.redcross.or.th/english/service/medical_clinicaids.php4
Thanks everyone for all feedback!
Barko thanks for the info. on "more volume" I"ll give it a try now that I'm closing in on 60. And I agree that chicks do enjoy a big load, even those not even close to being cum freaks. For what its worth I've found that Huckelberry syrup (can be found on-line) makes your semen, I've been told taste very good even by "spitters" that act like they've takin a mouthful of battery-acid. I found this out by accident drinking Huckelberry Margaritas daily at a bar in Scottsdale AZ. Do 2-3oz. daily for 3-4 days and another 2-3oz. about an hour before the deed and your regular WILL notice, also go easy on stuff like garlic, red meat, alcohol and especially ASPARAGUS !!.....Doc.
NicFrenchy
09-29-09, 03:20
Hm, I understand but when I saw the place and the tools and stuff laying around I went scared. It looked like a hospital from the 30's. I really dont want to insult anyone but for me, I thought that I was at the wrong place. Maybe I will give it a try next time if I need to.
I also don't go there. As a Farang, why go to a second rate clinic when you can go to a great hospital?
Last time I got checked @ Burumgrad it cost me around 5,000 thb so it was quite cheap.
I also don't go there. As a Farang, why go to a second rate clinic when you can go to a great hospital?
Last time I got checked @ Burumgrad it cost me around 5,000 thb so it was quite cheap.
Thai Sex Disease
A middle aged American business man found himself in Bangkok with spare time after a business meeting. The hotel bellboy offered to find him a pretty girl for a little afternoon delight. The girl showed up and was a gorgeous little spinner who met all his demands. Unknown at the time the condom had broken sometime during reverse cowgirl from the the girl's enthusiastic thrusts. He immediately washed thoroughly when the sex was complete.
Two weeks later when he was back in the US, his cock started to itch and turned different colors. There was black, purple and green patches all over his sore cock. He checked the internet and did not see anything that would explain the multiple colors, the itch and pain.
Out of fear, he went to his medical provider to get his tool checked out. He was lead into a room and told to strip and await the doctor. In comes the doctor who has him lift the backless gown he was wearing. The doctor turned pale, gagged and ran out of the room. The now composed doctor reentered the room, apologizing for his reaction and begin the examination. He consulted his medical books and told the distraught man that the only cure was to remove his cock and balls before the infection spread to the rest of his body.
The poor guy was terribly upset and told the doctor no way was he going to let anyone cut off his dick and left in a huff.
Several more days passed, the colors were getting darker and the itching and pain was nearly unbearable. It dawn on him if he got the disease in Thailand, maybe a Thai doctor could heal him. At the Thai doctors, blood test and swabs were taken. The doctor entered the room for the exam with the test results. After the exam, the man told the Thai doctor what the American doctor had said and how he want to remove his cock.
The Thai doctor looked over the test results again, and leaned closer to take a second look at the infected penis. He leaned back and said it would not be necessary to remove his penis.
The man looked relieved and exclaimed, "I don't have to cut my dick off!"
The doctor looked him in the eye and said "No. In a few days it fall off by itself."896961
Nah... I'm a good wing man not like Fox2. I always let my elders pick first :D
Eh? If I let you pick first, you'd pick like 4 or 5 at a time. No fair me na? :D
Francesco24
09-29-09, 08:40
Hello,
Maybe someone could help me finding a girl... her pics can be found in this post
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=908431#post908431
BKK da2-girl2
I met her on about 10 August in Nana car park and had a really nice time. Unluckly I live with my girlfriend and I have no more chances to go to Nana parking at night time. (and the very few times I could go there, she wasn't there) And I forgot to ask her for any contact info.
So, all this just to say that if by chance someone has her phone number or meet her again or know if she go to some bar/club during the day. Any kind of info would be very much appreciated! (any info on big breast girl too ahaha: P)
Thanks
I also don't go there. As a Farang, why go to a second rate clinic when you can go to a great hospital?
Last time I got checked @ Burumgrad it cost me around 5,000 thb so it was quite cheap.
Cheap is a relative term.
It rather depends what you got checked for -for 5000bt.
Cheap is a relative term.
It rather depends what you got checked for -for 5000bt.Correct. Bumrungrad is very expensive. There are plenty excellent hostipal in Bangkok. I had a hernia operation. I have checked cost before I go for the operation.
Bumrungrad thai baht 480.000. (for the room only was around 60.000) Bangkok hospital 280.000.
I went then to the Chinese Hua Chiew considered as the bumrungrad for Chinese cost 52.000. Every thing went well and it was the first time of my life I had a operation.
Health check the normal one (I don't want to go in details here) is around 2000. A full check of your body with cell and t cell.5000 bumrungrad is for this 15.000.
5000BHT is roughly $151-.
Sure, EVERYTHING'S relative if that's how you choose to look at it. But not this time! In this case the cost is not relative - it is absolute.
He's in a foreign country, knows no one, cant fuck, cant even leave the hotel! Doesn't know what he has which causes anxiety and makes the symptoms/situation even worse.
If he has trouble paying $151 for a medical visit in his home country then he surely has problems. If he flew to another country (possibly thousands of miles away) not speaking the language, without his home protection (medical, etc.), without enough money to cover a $151 EMERGENCY medical visit then he has bigger problems and might re-consider his approach to leisure travel...
RJSSS212
Cheap is a relative term.
It rather depends what you got checked for -for 5000bt.
Member #3428
09-29-09, 13:44
Eh? If I let you pick first, you'd pick like 4 or 5 at a time. No fair me na? :D
You are not my elder :D
Planning my next trip to BKK, I need advice on the freelancers scene outside the usaual p4p hot spots that am familiar with such as NEP, PP, SC or Sukhmvit beer gardens. I RTFF but don\'t seem to find the equivelant in BKK of the malls scene in Jakarta, Philipinese or OT in Sigapore. Didn't notice any major action in places like paragon or MBK. Am I shortsighted or am I not looking in the right places.
Cheers
5000BHT is roughly $151-.
Sure, EVERYTHING'S relative if that's how you choose to look at it. But not this time! In this case the cost is not relative - it is absolute.
He's in a foreign country, knows no one, cant fuck, cant even leave the hotel! Doesn't know what he has which causes anxiety and makes the symptoms/situation even worse.
If he has trouble paying $151 for a medical visit in his home country then he surely has problems. If he flew to another country (possibly thousands of miles away) not speaking the language, without his home protection (medical, etc.), without enough money to cover a $151 EMERGENCY medical visit then he has bigger problems and might re-consider his approach to leisure travel...
RJSSS212
Nic Frenchy is in Thailand more often than not -or it would appear so. he knows the ropes. We have no idea what he paid 5000bt for, but for those of us who spend a significant amount of time here in Thailand, that is a lot of money.
I do not know Bumrungrad Hospital personally, but I am aware that it is on a par with Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, where prices are up to 10 times the norm found throughout much of Thailand. My daughter was recently charged 18000bt (insurance paid) for 1 night stay investigating the possibility of swine flu - which it was not! In the Isaan area of thailand a similar stay with similar tests would cost less than 2000bt.
It would be interesting to hear what exactly Nic got for his 5000bt.
Member #4285
09-29-09, 16:13
bumbholes1, i think rjsss212 mean me when he wrote this:
he's in a foreign country, knows no one, cant fuck, cant even leave the hotel! doesn't know what he has which causes anxiety and makes the symptoms/situation even worse.
i wrote this in the safe sex section:
so i went to the bumrungrad hospital to check up what the pain was between my anus and scrotum. and it was not herpes he sad and told me it was from the scooterdriving. but what i heard is that the symptom can vary. doh, im such a silly boy that cant even trust the best hospital in town..
even took hiv, syfilis and gonorrhoea and all was negative. the chlamydia has 2 weeks waiting for the result. but damn that hurted. i couldnt lay still, felt like a sissy. oh man, that hurted and still hurts when i touch the top. and when i urinated after it hurted to. its my first chlamydia test and im not sure he did it the proper way. ive herad from others that its not a fun story to do the test, but should it hurt when you [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) after the test? ill hope i dont need to take the test again..
glad all the other results were negative. hope i can use my dick soon again and then it will be cbj. dont want these mindfucks again..
edit:
okey, now im completely confused. the doctor told me the test with the stick into my dick was chlamydia test, but on internet (never done any of all these test execpt hiv before) i reed that urin is used. so, i just called back the hospital and asked whats up. now they are telling me in chlamydia tests either stick or urin is used. aha, so why the hell did he use the painfull stick in my dick (that now is hurting) if he would not test gonorrhoea at all even if i asked for it? damn, all this is driving me even more crazy now.
yes, i went to bumrungrad hospital because i feel exactly as rjsss212 wrote (the qoute).
yes, i wanted to test everthing.
yes, this start on my asian-trip is driving me crazy.
the hospital is going to call me back in the morning but i think im going there and will ask for the manager. im feeling like a baby, but when you are alone, first time here, afraid you got something and then get strange information and so on, this thailand trip feels like a waste and i ask myself. what are im doing here? now im on my hotel and just do noathing, again. now im not even sure that the doctor was right about non herpes if he did not even know how to best test all the std. why the hell use the stick for chlamydia and not ghonorrohea doctor? i will ask him tomorrow, oh wait, hes out of town tomorrow and someone els from the hospital would call me.. thats what they sad.
drama.
anyone up for a beer or two? would be fun to meet someone and think on something els.
thank you for reeding and all advices so far.
''and the damn seat is so uncomfortable and giving me pain in the ass ''Save your money. Get a new seat. Nothing wrong with the dick, but you'll worry yourself to death going on like you are.
Correct. Sorry to be speaking of you in the third person while you are in the room. A little rude...
Consider your self lucky. Could have been one of the other things you were concernrd about (and may still be...) or a dozen things I can think of that didn't make your list.
Hey, far be it for me to tell you how to spend your money but you are ahead of the game in that you have saved 2 days of hooker money already and (sadly) you may save more. If you didn't like the first opinion get to another hospital fast, get it diagnosed, get it remedied and get back to the business at hand!!!! Oh, and good luck........
Bumbholes1, I think Rjsss212 mean me when he wrote this:
I wrote this in the safe sex section:
So I went to the Bumrungrad Hospital to check up what the pain was between my anus and scrotum. And It was not herpes he sad and told me it was from the scooterdriving. But what I heard is that the symptom can vary. Doh, im such a silly boy that cant even trust the best hospital in town..
Kid Ick, any doctor in Thailand that actually tests you for chlamydia and gonhorrea is over-doing it, perhaps partially to pad your bill or perhaps just to reassure the nervous Westerner.
The way to treat these ailments is to immediately take the fairly cheap antibiotics: Usually 1 gram of azithromycin will kill both, but if you want to be super certain take 1 gram of the above and also 400 mg of 'Cefspan' (cefixime).
Most doctors in Thailand who charge the fair/reasonable rate (200-500 baht per visit) will not even look at your weeping penis - its not really necessary.
Member #3428
09-29-09, 20:45
Planning my next trip to BKK, I need advice on the freelancers scene outside the usaual p4p hot spots that am familiar with such as NEP, PP, SC or Sukhmvit beer gardens. I RTFF but don\'t seem to find the equivelant in BKK of the malls scene in Jakarta, Philipinese or OT in Sigapore. Didn't notice any major action in places like paragon or MBK. Am I shortsighted or am I not looking in the right places.
Cheers
If you read the forum then you would see there are no reports about major free lance markets around MBK and Paragon etc... That is because there is not any free lance scene. I have picked up a girl that is a sales girl at Paragon and a phone sales girl at MBK for example but they were NOT p4p and there is not free lance scene there.
But if you start with the premise that they are LBFM then I guess you're going to find it hard to click.
Bingo! You reap what you sow. I have met a few BGs that I can spend a few days with. Movies, bowling, Thai food, massaging my shoulders while I'm on business calls. If you treat them like people you will discover that they have more to offer than 2-3 holes.
For those here in long term. If you are over 60 take natural Chinese herb here in Bangkok. The most powerfull fruit is he goji fruit its recongnize as the most powerfull and complete herbal medicine fruit. A part for sexual power it works for overweight and general week health problem especially if you over 60. You can have a health check at the Chinese clinic hua chiew here in Bangkok. Its the bumrungrad hospital for the Chinese but a lot cheaper.
Can associate some acupunture session with it. Generaly you can make a three month cure every year and have updated checks with Chinese doctor. Tongue pouls diagnostic for prevention for the specific health problem once over 60. You are going to be radically free of health problem if you have this treatment. Hua Chiew is the top in asia may be in the world after the head hospital in shanghai. They cure some cancer prostata or better prevention program.
I am 55. Three years ago 92kg (of course a lot of beer chang and gin tonic thai wisky) nowadays 78 kg body free of health problems. And they say it will be for a long time if doing this treatment and eat no fat and be care of the beer and so on. Sex power? I think I have it under control three time per day nowadays with good feeling no problem.
So. A solution for all the health problem or call it prevention to be never seek. Chinese medicin and acupunture. Hua chiew Chinese clinic Bangkok.
If any interest for more info pm me.
I don't get it. First you say you have to be over 60 and then you say you are 55. And why do you have to be there longer term? Can't you buy the stuff and take home?
I always like to ask girls who their special friends are as well. As this helps shed light on their character.
Special friends?
In a p4p environment, money always does work! If it doesn't, get the higher-ups involved and start handing out cash (may cost a bundle). You may not get a happy girl, but you will get the girl.
What fun is an unhappy girl?
So I went to the Bumrungrad Hospital to check up what the pain was between my anus and scrotum. And It was not herpes he sad and told me it was from the scooterdriving. But what I heard is that the symptom can vary. Doh, im such a silly boy that cant even trust the best hospital in town..
Go to the supermarket and pick up some Snake Brand Prickly Heat Antibacterial Powder http://www.britishdispensary.com/Product/Popup.asp?Tcase=2&TID=7
A wise rabbit told me about it once when I was having a similar problem due to the heat and humidity. It will cure what is ailing you and help you to calm down and go out and have fun.
Member #3428
09-29-09, 22:07
Go to the supermarket and pick up some Snake Brand Prickly Heat Antibacterial Powder http://www.britishdispensary.com/Product/Popup.asp?Tcase=2&TID=7
A wise rabbit told me about it once when I was having a similar problem due to the heat and humidity. It will cure what is ailing you and help you to calm down and go out and have fun.
that is very expensive, if I remember right it is around 80 baht :D
Dextro Sol
09-29-09, 22:10
I read in the paper today that if you have unprotected sex with 8 people, you risk to share the possibility to get STD:s from 2.8 million people...
If this would be ordinary dates.. i.e. not P4P ladies.... my god.. statistics is against us.. lol
Member #4285
09-29-09, 23:22
Kid Ick, any doctor in Thailand that actually tests you for chlamydia and gonhorrea is over-doing it.. ...
Yeah, it would not surprise me. It feels that the most here is either black or white. Noathing in the middle. I mean, was it really necessary to whip around like he was mixing a damn cake mixture? And he pushed it so down the channel that the stick almost came out my back.
Thanks for the advice with the medical stuff, I will look back to that post when the times come.
Go to the supermarket and pick up some Snake Brand Prickly Heat Antibacterial Powder http://www.britishdispensary.com/Product/Popup.asp?Tcase=2&TID=7
A wise rabbit told me about it once when I was having a similar problem due to the heat and humidity. It will cure what is ailing you and help you to calm down and go out and have fun.
I will remember that to! Now I have a cream the doctor gave me, or sold on me. Thanks for all tips. Ill hope the fun will begin shortly.. so far it has been just wierd.. =)
I just come home to the hotel after a visit at Giottos place. It felt good to talk a little and grab some beers. Thanks!
Seriously, what is the liklihood of accidentally running into a ladyboy or katoey? I heard some are pretty convincing. Is it enough to avoid Thai all together? I hear the Phillipines is dangerous. Is it more likely to run into a katoey in the Phillipines?
Seriously, what is the liklihood of accidentally running into a ladyboy or katoey? I heard some are pretty convincing. Is it enough to avoid Thai all together? I hear the Phillipines is dangerous. Is it more likely to run into a katoey in the Phillipines?
The likelihood is high and higher than the PI since they are fixtures in LOS but why are you concerned about them? If they approach you and you don't want their company, just say no.
NicFrenchy
09-30-09, 03:48
nic frenchy is in thailand more often than not -or it would appear so. he knows the ropes.
i'd like to think i know the ropes but, i don't. and, i have been living full time here in los for over 4 years.
it would be interesting to hear what exactly nic got for his 5000bt.
here goes:
hiv, vdrl (syphillis), chlamydia, herpes simplex
didn't do hep as i am vaccined for that.
all were blood/[CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) tests, hiv & vdrl results available same day. herpes & chlamydia available 4 days later
all of that for 5,000 (and change)
NicFrenchy
09-30-09, 04:03
Seriously, what is the liklihood of accidentally running into a ladyboy or katoey?
You are almost certain to run into them. Many work in beauty sections of the big malls (Emporium, Paragon, Central....)
Many freelance right on Sukhumvit
Many are to be spotted in NEP or SC
I heard some are pretty convincing.
They are only "Pretty convincing" with weak guys. Just smile, tell them you like ladies only and they will go away.
Is it enough to avoid Thai all together? I hear the Phillipines is dangerous. Is it more likely to run into a katoey in the Phillipines?
I'm not sure I understand.... Are you scared of them?
Seriously, what is the liklihood of accidentally running into a ladyboy or katoey? I heard some are pretty convincing. Is it enough to avoid Thai all together? I hear the Phillipines is dangerous. Is it more likely to run into a katoey in the Phillipines?
By "convincing" I think you mean that they look exactly like girls, right? (NicFrenchy seemed to think you meant 'persuasive'). It's true, some do. Most don't. Most are obvious. There's telltale signs: often taller, look at the hands and adam's apple, LBs often dress a lot more provacatively (sexily) than real girls generally do with high heels, short skirts, etc. To get a look at the typical type, stand right in front of Nana Plaza and look at the 'girls' who hang out there. Most of those are LB's. In general, LB's are in LB bars (Cassanova, etc), tho there's exceptions these days. ALso in general, they are out on the streets in areas where other LBs are. In front of Nana, a few across the street from Nana, on the street at Suk around soi 17(?) ATM and soi 19. So best way to avoid them is to become familiar with what they look like so you don't need to be afraid (seems you are) that real girls are LB's. Learn to distinguish. And avoid pickups in the few areas where they're prevalent.
Worst case scenario, if you find out too late that it's an LB and not a girl, just stop things and call it off. No big deal. If s/he got as far as my room, I'd probably give some tip to smooth things over.
I don't get it. First you say you have to be over 60 and then you say you are 55. And why do you have to be there longer term? Can't you buy the stuff and take home?
Keep in mind we're talking about 'medicine' that isn't scientifically tested. There's as much superstition in this field as there is anything else. So all the claims made for it haven't passed any kinds of serious tests to verify that they're real. Actually, I think it's even safe to say that they've actually failed those tests. Think about it. If these items really did what they're meant to do, then pharmaceutical companies would have studied them and isolated the active ingredient in order to turn it into an even more effective drug. Since that hasn't happened in 99% of these cases, tho there are hundreds, maybe thousands of drug companies around the world, I think it's pretty safe to say the claims are (by and large) bogus.
All of that for 5,000 (and change)
Change also? Damn, 5,000 was ok. Now that change is involved you are really showing you don't know shit. You were totally ripped off. Surely Buriram General Hospital would have cost less. No way you'd have had to add change on top. You sure wouldn't fit in with the long-timers milking their suds at Bier Garten day after day, mate.
Member #3428
09-30-09, 06:41
I read in the paper today that if you have unprotected sex with 8 people, you risk to share the possibility to get STD:s from 2.8 million people...
If this would be ordinary dates.. i.e. not P4P ladies.... my god.. statistics is against us.. lol
Then I'm screwed :D Especially since had a lot of equipment failures recently...
NicFrenchy
09-30-09, 07:01
Change also? Damn, 5,000 was ok. Now that change is involved you are really showing you don't know shit. You were totally ripped off. Surely Buriram General Hospital would have cost less. No way you'd have had to add change on top. You sure wouldn't fit in with the long-timers milking their suds at Bier Garten day after day, mate.
LOL, yeah, I forgot what the "change" value was but I am certain Opebo could get laid with that amount.
I just remember it was 5 thousand something... but I didn't care because my insurance pays for everything.
Keep in mind we're talking about 'medicine' that isn't scientifically tested. There's as much superstition in this field as there is anything else. So all the claims made for it haven't passed any kinds of serious tests to verify that they're real. Actually, I think it's even safe to say that they've actually failed those tests. Think about it. If these items really did what they're meant to do, then pharmaceutical companies would have studied them and isolated the active ingredient in order to turn it into an even more effective drug. Since that hasn't happened in 99% of these cases, tho there are hundreds, maybe thousands of drug companies around the world, I think it's pretty safe to say the claims are (by and large) bogus.no need to argue about this. There is plemty of information nowadays available in the internet for Chinese medicine aswel some scientic report done from pharmaceutical.
Its not a question to believe in it or not. By a simply tongue diagnostic they can tell you if the Chinese medicine is working for you or not. If you have no deficiency on ying and yang overall the Chinese medicine is not working then same for every one. Thats why you need a diagnostic first.
The Chinese medicine is a complementary medicine to the western one.
A overall antiaging medicine for those with ying and yang deficiency or need to improve the ying and yang.
Ying and yang. Tralala. Tralala. Ok guys now you know there is a Chinese hospital here in Bangkok the best one after shanghai. All the staff you find in the internet anyhow. For example. Typ in. Stay young with Chinese medicine. End of the story.
the chlamydia has 2 weeks waiting for the result. but damn that hurted. i couldnt lay still, felt like a sissy.
hmm ... i just got a work-up done in hong kong - hiv, syphillis, chlamydia and gonhorrea - at the government std clinic. hiv and syphillis were blood work and took three weeks to get back.
chlamydia and gonhorrea were done by the stick down the penis routine. walk in, drop your pants, little thing goes in, out, they swap it on a culture dish and done. didn't hurt. didn't hurt when i [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)'d.
perhaps the tech that 'did' you cut you a bit?
M P Lurker
09-30-09, 12:37
Then I'm screwed :D Especially since had a lot of equipment failures recently...
You would need a lot of lube. Condoms don't like friction.
Bounce Around
09-30-09, 13:29
Just came back from my first time at Eden. Wanted to cross it off my lists of 'yeah I did that.' Line up was nothing to write home about. Choose Tulip from the right (non-A) side of the line, she choose Da.
Standard service; A little too much going on for me to really get into it. Tulip was good. Nice rack, don't know if I will be repeating the club again though.
Is it just me, or does everything (other than the food) seem pretty bland here now?
LOL, yeah, I forgot what the "change" value was but I am certain Opebo could get laid with that amount.
I just remember it was 5 thousand something... but I didn't care because my insurance pays for everything.
Insurance?! Wow! Y'all hiring?
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