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Oldian

09-30-09, 19:09

Hm, I understand but when I saw the place and the tools and stuff laying around I went scared. It looked like a hospital from the 30's. I really dont want to insult anyone but for me, I thought that I was at the wrong place. Maybe I will give it a try next time if I need to. I think there was a clock-seller beside the entrance. On the sign outside it just stod "clinic" and noathing with Red Cross or something. Wait, when im now looking at the map I see that I crossed (from south to north) a river on a small bridge and then turned left. Could I went to the wrong place? I think im must have been on the phetchaburi street just a little up and a river between from Rajdamri. Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=sv&geocode=&q=rajadamri+bangkok&sll=13.749223,100.542326&sspn=0.00619,0.021973&ie=UTF8&ll=13.748973,100.543334&spn=0.00619,0.021973&z=16

Hm, here is another Red Cross Clinic on rama road:
http://www.redcross.or.th/english/service/medical_clinicaids.php4
Thanks everyone for all feedback![/QUOTE]

yeah, you were at the wrong place if on petchaburi...the Red Cross is near the Ratchadamri BTS station (walk south as if going to Sala Daeng), not the Ratchathewi BTS station near Petchaburi...the HIV and blood testing clinic is in a fancy new round building that looks very professional and has a big Red Cross HIV Research and something else written very boldly across the top of the building

FreebieFan

10-01-09, 03:10

If you read the forum then you would see there are no reports about major free lance markets around MBK and Paragon etc... That is because there is not any free lance scene. I have picked up a girl that is a sales girl at Paragon and a phone sales girl at MBK for example but they were NOT p4p and there is not free lance scene there.I picked up a sales girl also from Paragon on my last visit. In fact she was waiting for me in my hotel when I checked in.

Maybe its a hidden happy hunting ground.

Bounce Around

10-01-09, 05:14

Last night decided to head out around 10: 30, when I got outside the hotel realized it was raining; instead of trekking to Koreatown for dinner dropped in to Zanzibar on Soi 11. After a fiery (but expensive) meal was deciding on either going to Nana or Cownboy but was feeling lazy and thinking about calling it a night when I saw this voluptuous little woman. Almost reminded me of a petite black girl I. E., big rack, big booty and not too much flab. She wasn't dressed as [trashy] as most. But had a [tight] skirt on from which she was farily bulging. She smiled at me, so I stopped and chatted.

Agreed to 1000ST. Back in the room gave a good performance and was well worth it. Having some cushion in doggy is a nice change.. This time maybe I was a bit to business like.

Went to sleep happy. But woke up thinking should have gone LT!

There are a lot of WG on Soi 11. But not too many SW (I think). I see a lot of near hotties coming out of Grand President and Admiral. But they generally walk on without making too much eye contact.

Minuteman

10-01-09, 05:36

Hey! What happened?

I leave for 2 years and it seems that the price of beer, bar fines, ST, and LT have dramatically increased.

The two girls at Tilac that I was interested in (amazingly gorgeous) were demanding 2,000 for a ST and didn't budge one penny. I took a pass.

I'm not old, fat man either. I'm in my late 40's, good shape, well dressed.

I did go back and RTFF but I couldn't find any unanimity about pricing. What do you think is the typical price for a ST and LT on Soi Cowboy?

Ending up going to Toy Bar and getting a spectacular piece for $2,000 total (bar fine + $$ for girl). Let me tell you, the girls at the Toy Bar want to do some business!

Minuteman

10-01-09, 05:49

Went to Baccara last night and thought is was fantastic with just a couple of minor warnings.

First of all, the quality of the girls was FANTASTIC. Beautiful girls, great bodies, and good attitudes. About a half dozen of the girls were blond, a look that I find very attractive.

The girls on stage also went bare breasted. They kept their top around their necks in case of a raid but it was nice to see the full package before buying. They also took off their panties before they got on stage and weren't shy about flashing their bearded clams to you while they danced.

The glass ceiling was also a nice feature. All the upstairs girls were dressed in Catholic girl uniforms too, which made it feel just a little more forbidden. Nice touch.

Here is what I didn't like. There are 2 groups of girls: girls in white and girls in yellow. The girls in white were the ones that danced on stage, showed their tits, flashed their clam, and were available for take out. The girls in yellow were not for sex....just for show...and to fleece you for as many lady drinks as they could get.

These yellow shirted girls were gorgeous, sexy dancers, and very friendly...but no sex. As long as you know and don't waste your time with them, they are a nice supplement to the white-shirted girls on stage.

I'd stage that Baccara and Tilac had the most attractive women.

Sainter21

10-01-09, 07:00

All excellent advice. My best tell-tale is watch them for 1 minute. If they play with and flick their hair atleast 20 times in that period, they are a LB lol. They cant touch the hair enough.
Cheers.

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By "convincing" I think you mean that they look exactly like girls, right? (NicFrenchy seemed to think you meant 'persuasive'). It's true, some do. Most don't. Most are obvious. There's telltale signs: often taller, look at the hands and adam's apple, LBs often dress a lot more provacatively (sexily) than real girls generally do with high heels, short skirts, etc. To get a look at the typical type, stand right in front of Nana Plaza and look at the 'girls' who hang out there. Most of those are LB's. In general, LB's are in LB bars (Cassanova, etc), tho there's exceptions these days. ALso in general, they are out on the streets in areas where other LBs are. In front of Nana, a few across the street from Nana, on the street at Suk around soi 17(?) ATM and soi 19. So best way to avoid them is to become familiar with what they look like so you don't need to be afraid (seems you are) that real girls are LB's. Learn to distinguish. And avoid pickups in the few areas where they're prevalent.

Worst case scenario, if you find out too late that it's an LB and not a girl, just stop things and call it off. No big deal. If s/he got as far as my room, I'd probably give some tip to smooth things over.

Mouse1

10-01-09, 09:01

Amjeck

10-01-09, 09:48

Hey! What happened?

I leave for 2 years and it seems that the price of beer, bar fines, ST, and LT have dramatically increased.

The two girls at Tilac that I was interested in (amazingly gorgeous) were demanding 2,000 for a ST and didn't budge one penny. I took a pass.

I'm not old, fat man either. I'm in my late 40's, good shape, well dressed.

No offense, but what does your age and looks have to do with anything? BKK ain't the same as it was 5-10 years ago.

Also, the girls won't budge off 2000 ST because there a plenty of buyers at that price everyday.

Dreams

10-01-09, 09:54

no need to argue about this. There is plemty of information nowadays available in the internet for Chinese medicine aswel some scientic report done from pharmaceutical.

Its not a question to believe in it or not. By a simply tongue diagnostic they can tell you if the Chinese medicine is working for you or not. If you have no deficiency on ying and yang overall the Chinese medicine is not working then same for every one. Thats why you need a diagnostic first.

The Chinese medicine is a complementary medicine to the western one.

A overall antiaging medicine for those with ying and yang deficiency or need to improve the ying and yang.

Ying and yang. Tralala. Tralala. Ok guys now you know there is a Chinese hospital here in Bangkok the best one after shanghai. All the staff you find in the internet anyhow. For example. Typ in. Stay young with Chinese medicine. End of the story.
...for ever, if what you say is true... I am afraid the health statistics in China are actually worst than in the West with regards to most diseases, including heart, diabetes and cancer.. But what matters is what you believe. So good for you.

LittleBigMan

10-01-09, 11:06

When you get to a certain age who cares about looking young. What really matters is how good you feel! The saying is " all show and no go ".

What really matters in regards to the Ying and Yang, and I'm chinese is whether the little head Yings and Yangs!

LBM

M P Lurker

10-01-09, 11:08

All excellent advice. My best tell-tale is watch them for 1 minute. If they play with and flick their hair atleast 20 times in that period, they are a LB lol. They cant touch the hair enough.
Cheers.

Well I know this is a fun post, but never assume you (talking to everyone in general) have any reliable way to pic a LB, for certain all of the time. Always be careful and admit you could get fooled by a less obvious one.

I know a real girl (albeit undesirable one - pretty but bad character) who has a beauty complex and flicks hair very often when nervous. O.K. I didn't count the number of times per minute. But O.K. any hair flicker is a no go! ;)

Actually all known methods don't really work (and are only suspicion indicators) except for maybe DNA testing, but even that could be faked. I am yet to try detailed pussy exam on a LB, so I don't know how good the fakes can be.

Wendella's advice was pretty good. Get very familar with lady boys to reduce likelihood of being fooled.

Jutju

10-01-09, 11:40

Well I know this is a fun post, but never assume you (talking to everyone in general) have any reliable way to pic a LB, for certain all of the time. Always be careful and admit you could get fooled by a less obvious one.

I know a real girl (albeit undesirable one - pretty but bad character) who has a beauty complex and flicks hair very often when nervous. O.K. I didn't count the number of times per minute. But O.K. any hair flicker is a no go! ;)

Actually all known methods don't really work (and are only suspicion indicators) except for maybe DNA testing, but even that could be faked. I am yet to try detailed pussy exam on a LB, so I don't know how good the fakes can be.

Wendella's advice was pretty good. Get very familar with lady boys to reduce likelihood of being fooled.My personal rule is: If I've had more than 3 beers She must have streach marks! Thats the only way I can tell for sure.

Member #4285

10-01-09, 13:58

but i dont fucking care! so sick to this bangkok vacation with all this and that. last night i went to patpong. found a nightopen hospital (bangkok christian hospital) that checked all my red dots that just could be an allergic reaction to my cream i use(d). or maybe something i have been eating. anyway today i was suposed to follow up with a skindoctor but im sorry, i just wake up after a long night looking for a nice lady. ill go there tomorrow. heavy rain destroyd the fun lurking around but i found one place in the end/begining of a bar street called something with pink. they have a thaiboxing event tonight (23.00) and im going there with two couples i meet in the bar. always fun to have some one to talk with. anyway, they went home around 02.00 when the bar was closing and the girls i must say were damn hot. 600 bf but i waited to long and suddenly there was almost only mamasan and the male-staff left.

when talking about men, i went in on one street that looked at the first time as a normal barstreet but there were only men that tried to convince me to get in the bars. then i saw in through a open door that they were maledancers. surrounded by boys i told them im sorry, im on the wrong street. i like girls, not boys and even gesticulated a woman with hips and tits with my hands. no succsess and they were still a little pushy so i decided to make a sceen. i was just tired of all in bangkok so i got off and start running with my hands up in the sky and screming (but in an obvious playful way). they laughed but i guess they even thought "what a stupied farang". but i could not care less.

jumped in a taxi to soi cawboy. all closed at 03.00. jumped in an another taxi and told him to drive me to a night open bar. well, it was nightopen to 05.00 but damn depressive bar. i bought him a beer and we drink up and leaved. then i remember that i did not get any change back on the 500-bath bill when i bought ciggarettes so i went back and the manager handed over the change without thinking. even the aot taxi that took me from the airport first day wanted 500 bath when the meeter say 250. all about money..

back in to the taxi and i decided to call it a night, it was 05.30 now. but before we get in to mcdonald i asked him, you want anything? "up to you" he sad and i laughed, but this time there would not be any trouble (i guess) so i bought him a menu.

now, im going to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and then to patpong for some boxing.

take care!
/kid.

Rjsss212

10-01-09, 14:21

So true. There's no magic formula, just vigilance... and to never let your guard down.

Well I know this is a fun post, but never assume you (talking to everyone in general) have any reliable way to pic a LB, for certain all of the time. Always be careful and admit you could get fooled by a less obvious one.

I know a real girl (albeit undesirable one - pretty but bad character) who has a beauty complex and flicks hair very often when nervous. O.K. I didn't count the number of times per minute. But O.K. any hair flicker is a no go! ;)

Actually all known methods don't really work (and are only suspicion indicators) except for maybe DNA testing, but even that could be faked. I am yet to try detailed pussy exam on a LB, so I don't know how good the fakes can be.

Wendella's advice was pretty good. Get very familar with lady boys to reduce likelihood of being fooled.

Wendella

10-01-09, 15:52

So true. There's no magic formula, just vigilance... and to never let your guard down.

Well, also not worry about it too much. If it turns out it's a LB, no big deal. Just cut the encounter short. No harm done. Try to be nice about it. It must happen to them a lot so they're probably used to it and realize there's no point in going forward in that case. Think of it the way you would if you had a girl who turned out to be on her period or something. It's not what you're up for, sorry about that. Maybe a small tip for his time if you'd already struck a deal. Do try to avoid bad scenes, some of them can get pretty nasty when things go sour. High heels can quickly turn into dangerous weapons. I shit you not.

Yellow Fever #2

10-01-09, 17:15

Rjsss212

10-01-09, 17:44

Not in this lifetime. I am always explicitly clear with anyone who I even slightly suspect. Tell me now I say because it will get ugly later. No harm - no foul is fine for you but not me because for me wasting my time is slightly worse than wasting my money and it does not sit well!

Well, also not worry about it too much. If it turns out it's a LB, no big deal. Just cut the encounter short. No harm done. Try to be nice about it. It must happen to them a lot so they're probably used to it and realize there's no point in going forward in that case. Think of it the way you would if you had a girl who turned out to be on her period or something. It's not what you're up for, sorry about that. Maybe a small tip for his time if you'd already struck a deal. Do try to avoid bad scenes, some of them can get pretty nasty when things go sour. High heels can quickly turn into dangerous weapons. I shit you not.

Pita123

10-01-09, 17:48

I am yet to try detailed pussy exam on a LB, so I don't know how good the fakes can be.

Oh, c'mon. Take one for the team, mate!

Bounce Around

10-01-09, 17:50

Went to Soi 7 today for a look see, Beer Garden was scary and the best thing about the Soi were the oysters at the open air food stall (plus got to see two cats doing it while i ate - Dinner AND a Show!) ... i think i did see some interesting talent sitting outside the bar next to the food stall but i didn't feel like negotiating then (and they did seem a bit more prissy than the BG ladies) - i guess they are free lancers too?

Anybody up for going to Cowboy or Nana or even Soi 33... over the weekend? - i hate going to bars alone as i am not the easiest conversationalists with the girls and since i am not a beer drinker i can't just sit there and nurse a drink on my own for a long time... Unless i go to the dentist i should be game Fri/Sat.

I recommend you leave all your papers and cash in your hotel safe. Take only as much cash as you are willing to spend on drinks and your entertainment. To minimize the chances of losing it all, separate some of it into different pockets.As a rule I only have enough cash for the excursion/evening (+reasonable incidentals spread between the pockets) and the hotel key in my pockets, no matter where I am. Also my cell phone, but since I didn't buy a local sim this time, it wouldn't be too necessary. Unless I am in a first world country and have a car, I don't think this would change.

Pita123

10-01-09, 17:53

I think the dental treatment for the kid will cost him more than he earned in this event. I told them to call the police and I walked away from the scene.

Be careful out there. This never happened to me before in BKK, maybe it is getting more desperate here.

If I were you, I would be very careful walking along this part of Sukhumvit for the rest of your trip. While we need to be careful, you would appear to be foolish. Beating up a street kid in BKK? You are lucky to be alive IMHO. If some taxi drivers had been driving past and saw you hitting a kid you'd be the one in the hospital me thinks.

Yellow Fever #2

10-01-09, 18:17

If I were you, I would be very careful walking along this part of Sukhumvit for the rest of your trip. While we need to be careful, you would appear to be foolish. Beating up a street kid in BKK? You are lucky to be alive IMHO. If some taxi drivers had been driving past and saw you hitting a kid you'd be the one in the hospital me thinks.

I agree it was foolish. I am not sure if anyone would defend these kids.

The 'dental work' comment was perhaps more dramatic than in actuality. Certainly he had a very good scare. When I let him go, he ran up the stairs to get away from me. There were 5 of them in a group and not one of them went to his defense....

It could have been much worse. Any of them could have had a knife and it could have been bad for me.

My original comment was to inform our fellow forum members of this sort of event, what to look out for and in some ways how to protect yourself or at least limit your potential loss.

Don't go back and take them on. Next time they will may be better prepared.

I'm out of Bangkok now and in fact I am a little disappointed with this trip. Perhaps next time I will try the Philippines.

Rjsss212

10-01-09, 18:52

Hey, it was ill-advised and dangerous/foolish but now that its over all you can say is GOOD WORK!! I'm sure the kid will think twice before trying it again.

Of course the flip side is that he may go home and work on his fighting skills. I saw some special on Muay Thai and it the showed kids in Thailand in training programs from age 4. They often practice fighting the same way American kids practice baseball so even kids may kick some farang ass if he's brash enough and if caught even slightly by surprise it spells a bad day for someone.

If I were you, I would be very careful walking along this part of Sukhumvit for the rest of your trip. While we need to be careful, you would appear to be foolish. Beating up a street kid in BKK? You are lucky to be alive IMHO. If some taxi drivers had been driving past and saw you hitting a kid you'd be the one in the hospital me thinks.

Mr Enternational

10-01-09, 20:30

Hey, it was ill-advised and dangerous/foolish but now that its over all you can say is GOOD WORK!! I'm sure the kid will think twice before trying it again.

Of course the flip side is that he may go home and work on his fighting skills. I saw some special on Muay Thai and it the showed kids in Thailand in training programs from age 4. They often practice fighting the same way American kids practice baseball so even kids may kick some farang ass if he's brash enough and if caught even slightly by surprise it spells a bad day for someone.
Right you are. Took these in Pattaya last week and I don't think these kids are even 4 yet.

Paulcorr

10-01-09, 22:18

NicFrenchy

10-02-09, 02:15

I went back to this group of kids (perhaps 15 seconds after the original incident)... I destroyed their 'candy' and took revenge on this kid.

I think the dental treatment for the kid will cost him more than he earned in this event. I told them to call the police and I walked away from the scene.
Well that was a smart thing to do.... NOT.

As Pita123 said, it was foolish adn very dangerous to have not only ruined the kids candy but hit them. In these situations, it isn't the Police you should be worried about but the mob for who these kids probably work.

Hitting Thai People (let alone kids) could end up in you being dead.

Wendella

10-02-09, 04:57

no need to argue about this. There is plemty of information nowadays available in the internet for Chinese medicine aswel some scientic report done from pharmaceutical.

Its not a question to believe in it or not. By a simply tongue diagnostic they can tell you if the Chinese medicine is working for you or not. If you have no deficiency on ying and yang overall the Chinese medicine is not working then same for every one. Thats why you need a diagnostic first.

The Chinese medicine is a complementary medicine to the western one.

A overall antiaging medicine for those with ying and yang deficiency or need to improve the ying and yang.

Ying and yang. Tralala. Tralala. Ok guys now you know there is a Chinese hospital here in Bangkok the best one after shanghai. All the staff you find in the internet anyhow. For example. Typ in. Stay young with Chinese medicine. End of the story.A tongue diagnostic. Ying and yang. Anti aging.

I'd be interested to see a head to head duel with blood letting and phrenology.

I don't see how it's 'complementary' to modern medicine. It was developed before modern medicine. So this is more like the position it was forced to take when medicine started coming up with effective vaccines and treatments that it wasn't capable of delivering. Now that everyone knows it can't do anything about cancer or malaria, it's moved on to untestable claims like youth preservation.

Hopefully this kind of "medicine" is gone before tigers and rhinos are. Prospects don't look good.

Redfield10

10-02-09, 05:09

The Phils is way, way more dangerous than BKK. I got accosted and robbed outside of LA Cafe in Manila. That area is very dangerous and Manila is a veritable shithole compared to BKK. I think you just had bad luck. And I suppose those who love the Phils say I had bad luck.

I'll take BKK and Thailand over the Phils any day. If I were to go back to the Phils, I'd only go to Angeles. I guess if you had a girl out in the provinces it might be worth it. But certainly not to go to Manila.

I agree it was foolish. I am not sure if anyone would defend these kids.

The 'dental work' comment was perhaps more dramatic than in actuality. Certainly he had a very good scare. When I let him go, he ran up the stairs to get away from me. There were 5 of them in a group and not one of them went to his defense....

It could have been much worse. Any of them could have had a knife and it could have been bad for me.

My original comment was to inform our fellow forum members of this sort of event, what to look out for and in some ways how to protect yourself or at least limit your potential loss.

Don't go back and take them on. Next time they will may be better prepared.

I'm out of Bangkok now and in fact I am a little disappointed with this trip. Perhaps next time I will try the Philippines.

Wendella

10-02-09, 05:23

Not in this lifetime. I am always explicitly clear with anyone who I even slightly suspect. Tell me now I say because it will get ugly later. No harm - no foul is fine for you but not me because for me wasting my time is slightly worse than wasting my money and it does not sit well!

Well I guess I'm confident enough of my LB-dar that the situation isn't a big concern for me, not something I worry about.

I'd also ask if I had any doubt -- I did that last time in BKK when picking up a FL in Nana parking lot. She had this Emo-style haircut with long hair covering one eye completely (and black nailpolish), so it was hard to get a good look at her face to make sure. And it was opposite Nana where it was mainly girls but with a couple of LB's (their friends, apparently) in amongst them. She said she was a girl and that turned out to be correct when I checked carefully later. ;)

I'm just saying, if you had somehow ended up back in your room and discovered it only then and there, that a high % of these LB's are pretty streetwise and a lot tougher than they look. And also quick to snap and become suddenly violent. So in that scenario, best to just cut your losses and end it politely. Not risk a bad scene that could quickly get ugly and dangerous.

Member #4285

10-02-09, 05:31

hello kid

what this doctor did is absolutely unnecessary.

love to read the rest of your trip.

well, im thinking that either he was angry on me that i get a girl and didnt follow up with a merriage or he was to unexperienced. no way he would countinue when im screaming "please stop take it out" if he was serious and listening to the patient. like giotto sad, maybe he was tired about all sad fucks that come and want to test after a night..
now, 2 days after i can [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) without pain. well, thats a relief!! the best part with this story is when i ask the nurse if its going to hurt before the doctor enter the room.

- "i dont knowe"

you dont knowe because you dont have a dick or you dont have been in this situation before with a client? (im thinking this).

11.00 now and i just arrived home. first the girl in the restaurant asking wich cologne (you say that about a "man-parfume"?) im using and flirting with me, or, thats what im thinking anyway. then here friend tells me she's only 16 and already married, one year ago. alright!!

trying to get to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a quick bj but as the sad fuck i am i cant find the place, not even with taxi-help! how hard could it be from soi 19 to find the place? so i go to pink panther to watch the thaiboxing at 23.00. well, a little fun but the girls is maybe what im there for. try to hook up with a girl but when she says she have a boyfriend my dick goes dead.

cheers!

/kid

Yellow Fever #2

10-02-09, 07:01

Well that was a smart thing to do.... NOT.
As Pita123 said, it was foolish adn very dangerous to have not only ruined the kids candy but hit them. In these situations, it isn't the Police you should be worried about but the mob for who these kids probably work.

Hitting Thai People (let alone kids) could end up in you being dead.

I did not say it was a smart thing to do, only what I did at the time. Certainly it could have turned out worse.

Maybe calling them kids was wrong, perhaps street-youths would be better (maybe mid-teens).

They did not return to their previous place over a few following nights of passing by (alternate side of road or with taxi).

I don't think they were part of a 'gang/mob' as they were a mob already. There were 5 of them. There were some adult security guards nearby at the construction site that knew what happened but did not care at all, perhaps they were just too lazy to get up. In fact they sort of cheered me on.

I remember when i told the mob to call the police one pulled out what looked like a fairly current high-end Nokia phone, must likely lifted from some other monger a few days earlier.

Honestly, I felt stupid originally for having this incident occur(original pick-pocket). In a way I regret NOT breaking his arm/hand so that he could not do this again and not taking and walking away with the phone that I saw.

I think that they were terrified of me at the time. The only defense they made was to throw a water bottle at me after I walked away.

Call me stupid or even worse if you want. I was just tired of this shit, its never happened in my 8 years of life in China and mongering all over Asia.

I don't think that the police care a rats ass about these street people, they cause a lot of problems for tourists in this country. They give Thailand a bad name.

Sainter21

10-02-09, 07:15

Barko

10-02-09, 10:27

Recently, I got pick-pocketed by a group of kids (actually only one did the 'work' which happened so quickly I did not realize it until about 10 meters on) walking from SC to the 'lower odd sois'. I lost about 2000B which was all the cash I had on me except for some coins. Fortunately had enough coins to take the taxi back to hotel.

These kids were sitting on and in front of stairs to enter the ASOK Skytrain station.

The kid came at me with bags of some lightweight 'candy? ', yelling at me in Thai. I told him to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off but he kept on following me with this stuff in my face before I knew it, the whole thing was over. I had an umbrella in one hand because it was pouring rain. After realizing my 'loss', I went back to this group of kids (perhaps 15 seconds after the original incident). I destroyed their 'candy' and took revenge on this kid.

I think the dental treatment for the kid will cost him more than he earned in this event. I told them to call the police and I walked away from the scene.

Be careful out there. This never happened to me before in BKK, maybe it is getting more desperate here.

I recommend you leave all your papers and cash in your hotel safe. Take only as much cash as you are willing to spend on drinks and your entertainment. To minimize the chances of losing it all, separate some of it into different pockets.OK, I think something is changing too.

Normally I wouldn't say anything about this to anyone, most would say that it was an insignificant episode of city life, but I guess that we're going to have to stick together to get the warning out. Long story:

Last week, walking back to the condo from Oranges Massage, I was seriously accosted by the group of katoeys that frequent the construction zone between Sukhumvit Soi 29-31.

10: 30 PM, was just strolling along, mindlessly going over what had just been a so so hit on the massage place. The chick was too young, too inexperienced, but fuck me she was really really cute. Yeah, I was half smiling to myself, and I was also thinking about what was for dinner. OK. Never mind.

As I am just cruising along near the construction wall, suddenly about 3 meters in front of me, one really tall ladyboy dude steps in my path and exposes an enormous fake breast. He then quickly does that hugely exaggerated butt waggle up to me yammering some broken English about 'beeyootiful lady? " I smile, and say, "Mai aow krup, mai chawp katoey krup". (No thank you, I don't do ladyboys, thanks anyway.)

The motherfucking dude reaches down and grabs my cock! He then squeezed it so hard I had to turn over at the waist to pull away, he then dug his long fingernailed thumb in and twisted so hard that I had to double over.

Fuck me, from nowhere, many hands going into all of the pockets of my jeans, front and back. I have no idea how many there were. But as I looked up, the squeezer motherfucker was staring down right at my face with a demented glee that brought back too many bad experiences from when I was young. The guy was shwacked and he wasn't fucking around.

Something snapped I suppose. I fought back. Not really sure how I managed it, but I was pissed as hell. I dropped my weight down and away, lowered shoulder and decided that the only way I was going to get out of this was to fuck this one guy up real good. Barreled my head aside then did a hard American football tackle on the katoey's knee and at the same time sliding up with the intention of slamming his head into the ground with my hands around his neck. There was all kinds of shit happening behind me, but I never felt a kick or punch, it all happened too fast.

We both fell into the backside of a phone booth with him getting twisted up in some of that exposed wiring sticking up out of the busted sidewalk, then careened into the street with him taking the hard asphalt pizza slap underneath me. Falling directly into oncoming night time Suk traffic, a motorbike zoomed right by my head. I kept momentum, got to my feet and sprinted through the honking car horns to the middle divide of Suk, then ran as far as I could, dancing along the divider on the other side between the cars and the curb.

When there was an opening in headlights behind me to my left, I ran through to the the other side of Suk and straight into the 7-11. From the time I had bulldozed the dude, I had not looked back to the katoeys. When I finally did look back, I couldn't see anything, nothing. I couldn't hear any of them either (they make this insanely irritating pissed off screeching and yowling cackle when irritated.)

If those guys had chased after me, I was fucked. They hadn't. I slipped out of the 7-11 and jumped directly into a taxi that had slowed in front of my outstretched arm. By some miracle, they didn't get anything, and I had gone out heavy that night expecting some action later at Soi Cowboy. Won't be doing that stupid shit again, no sir.

Sound like a fucking movie? I guess, but I am still freaked out about it. The entire episode up to the point of the 7-11 must have taken 15 to 20 seconds at the very most.

Now look, I have not had anything like this happen to me in a long time. If somebody wants to pick on a guy, I am not a prime target. I'm old, but don't have a profile as being so, I dress young, have a good build, have all my hair and fairly pronounced wide shoulders.

Katoeys are usually very benign and low on my list of dangerous subjects. Hell, we have a fucking ton of them here in Phuket. I put my eyes in total 'ignore' mode when I see them, here they are easy to spot and a fact of life. This deal was the strangest godamm fucking thing but I am sure that this wasn't the first time of pulling this shit for those clowns on Sukhumvit.

You KNOW I won't be walking through that part of Suk anymore at night. But, guys, hey, be careful out there. Something weird is brewing in Thailand and I am not the only farang feeling it.

Danger and desperation lurking, especially in Bangkok. Maybe it's just the chemistry of the latest version of ya-ba. Who knows? Just be aware of it, be safe and take precautions now. I know I will. My dick was sore for two motherfucking days and my shoulder STILL hurts like hell.

Go safe.

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Jeff46

10-02-09, 10:36

A tongue diagnostic. Ying and yang. Anti aging.

I'd be interested to see a head to head duel with blood letting and phrenology.

I don't see how it's 'complementary' to modern medicine. It was developed before modern medicine. So this is more like the position it was forced to take when medicine started coming up with effective vaccines and treatments that it wasn't capable of delivering. Now that everyone knows it can't do anything about cancer or malaria, it's moved on to untestable claims like youth preservation.

Hopefully this kind of "medicine" is gone before tigers and rhinos are. Prospects don't look good.I said before nothing too argue about this. All info in the internet available Chinese med is a prevention medicine and a alternative to western in some case. And yes they do of course blood analyse etc. Even for 5000 baht. Cell and t cell etc. Bumrungrad charge you 15.000 for it. You know this test that shows that your body is cancer risk. This Chinese med works and the pharmaceutical companies know is working for prevention but nowbody nowadays even has find out why it works and why ist not working on some cell regenerations. Anyhow is nothing else as a alternative medicine with no side effect. And you have nothing to loose to try it. The Chinese doc has never said they are a better or someting like this. Its just a alternative med for prevention and healing.

I just take this thing to be free for ever from cholesterol. Blood circulation problem. Kiney lever problem. Good blood flow etc. Hopefully I will stay free for long time or for ever and report chiks activities for ever.

James bond never died.

Rjsss212

10-02-09, 12:46

Sounds good...

Well I guess I'm confident enough of my LB-dar that the situation isn't a big concern for me, not something I worry about.

I'd also ask if I had any doubt -- I did that last time in BKK when picking up a FL in Nana parking lot. She had this Emo-style haircut with long hair covering one eye completely (and black nailpolish), so it was hard to get a good look at her face to make sure. And it was opposite Nana where it was mainly girls but with a couple of LB's (their friends, apparently) in amongst them. She said she was a girl and that turned out to be correct when I checked carefully later. ;)

I'm just saying, if you had somehow ended up back in your room and discovered it only then and there, that a high % of these LB's are pretty streetwise and a lot tougher than they look. And also quick to snap and become suddenly violent. So in that scenario, best to just cut your losses and end it politely. Not risk a bad scene that could quickly get ugly and dangerous.

Rjsss212

10-02-09, 12:48

sounds like everything you touch on this trip turns to shit (even the simple stuff). maybe its time to go home and come back when the stars are more aligned in your favor...

well, im thinking that either he was angry on me that i get a girl and didnt follow up with a merriage or he was to unexperienced. no way he would countinue when im screaming "please stop take it out" if he was serious and listening to the patient. like giotto sad, maybe he was tired about all sad fucks that come and want to test after a night..
now, 2 days after i can [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) without pain. well, thats a relief!! the best part with this story is when i ask the nurse if its going to hurt before the doctor enter the room.

- "i dont knowe"

you dont knowe because you dont have a dick or you dont have been in this situation before with a client? (im thinking this).

11.00 now and i just arrived home. first the girl in the restaurant asking wich cologne (you say that about a "man-parfume"?) im using and flirting with me, or, thats what im thinking anyway. then here friend tells me she's only 16 and already married, one year ago. alright!!

trying to get to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a quick bj but as the sad fuck i am i cant find the place, not even with taxi-help! how hard could it be from soi 19 to find the place? so i go to pink panther to watch the thaiboxing at 23.00. well, a little fun but the girls is maybe what im there for. try to hook up with a girl but when she says she have a boyfriend my dick goes dead.

cheers!

/kid

Rjsss212

10-02-09, 12:52

YF2

In those situations there is very little time for deduction. You really have to stay committed to your course of action regardless of which way you go.

There are plenty of courses of action that appear foolish but could pay off big. Its just that the payoff here doesn't begin to equal the risks. I think most agree you chose the wrong course BUT, you pulled it off.

Now count your laurels and your blessings!

RJSSS212

I did not say it was a smart thing to do, only what I did at the time. Certainly it could have turned out worse.

Maybe calling them kids was wrong, perhaps street-youths would be better (maybe mid-teens).

They did not return to their previous place over a few following nights of passing by (alternate side of road or with taxi).

I don't think they were part of a 'gang/mob' as they were a mob already. There were 5 of them. There were some adult security guards nearby at the construction site that knew what happened but did not care at all, perhaps they were just too lazy to get up. In fact they sort of cheered me on.

I remember when i told the mob to call the police one pulled out what looked like a fairly current high-end Nokia phone, must likely lifted from some other monger a few days earlier.

Honestly, I felt stupid originally for having this incident occur(original pick-pocket). In a way I regret NOT breaking his arm/hand so that he could not do this again and not taking and walking away with the phone that I saw.

I think that they were terrified of me at the time. The only defense they made was to throw a water bottle at me after I walked away.

Call me stupid or even worse if you want. I was just tired of this shit, its never happened in my 8 years of life in China and mongering all over Asia.

I don't think that the police care a rats ass about these street people, they cause a lot of problems for tourists in this country. They give Thailand a bad name.

Rjsss212

10-02-09, 13:02

Thanks, Phils is on my list and I will consider this when making plans.

The Phils is way, way more dangerous than BKK. I got accosted and robbed outside of LA Cafe in Manila. That area is very dangerous and Manila is a veritable shithole compared to BKK. I think you just had bad luck. And I suppose those who love the Phils say I had bad luck.

I'll take BKK and Thailand over the Phils any day. If I were to go back to the Phils, I'd only go to Angeles. I guess if you had a girl out in the provinces it might be worth it. But certainly not to go to Manila.

Key Master

10-02-09, 14:11

Thanks, Phils is on my list and I will consider this when making plans.If you can't handle yourself with pickpocket or beggars coming up to you, I think you should take Philippines off your list. The poster who says PI is way more dangerous and advises going to AC versus anywhere else in PI I believe had his only one trip there and he doesn't tell you that there have been mongers and expats killed in AC. I only heard of one incident of murder in Manila of a foreigner a bit ways back versus multiple ones in AC recently. You need to have a coolness about you to handle the crap in PI. There is a reason to go to PI and you have to be able to overcome some of the poverty issues there.

Rjsss212

10-02-09, 14:20

Who said I couldn't handle myself??? Did you infer that from my post?

And, whats the reason (other than the obvious)?

If you can't handle yourself with pickpocket or beggars coming up to you, I think you should take Philippines off your list. The poster who says PI is way more dangerous and advises going to AC versus anywhere else in PI I believe had his only one trip there and he doesn't tell you that there have been mongers and expats killed in AC. I only heard of one incident of murder in Manila of a foreigner a bit ways back versus multiple ones in AC recently. You need to have a coolness about you to handle the crap in PI. There is a reason to go to PI and you have to be able to overcome some of the poverty issues there.

Member #4285

10-02-09, 15:37

Sounds like everything you touch on this trip turns to shit (even the simple stuff). Maybe its time to go home and come back when the stars are more aligned in your favor...Hehe. No I stay and waiting things out. Still 20 more days in Thailand before I go to Vietnam. But, Ill wait and post until I have a successful report.. or I dont :D

I guess I have to turn back the day to, cuse like its now, I go to bed at 10-11 in the morning and go out at 23.00.

Redfield10

10-02-09, 20:19

Buddy,

If you're having huge problems in Thailand, you won't even SURVIVE Vietnam, believe me!

Hehe. No I stay and waiting things out. Still 20 more days in Thailand before I go to Vietnam. But, Ill wait and post until I have a successful report.. or I dont :D

I guess I have to turn back the day to, cuse like its now, I go to bed at 10-11 in the morning and go out at 23.00

Pita123

10-02-09, 22:52

Hehe. No I stay and waiting things out. Still 20 more days in Thailand before I go to Vietnam. But, Ill wait and post until I have a successful report.. or I dont :D

I guess I have to turn back the day to, cuse like its now, I go to bed at 10-11 in the morning and go out at 23.00.

Why in the world are you going to bed at 10-11AM? What are you doing between 5 and 10?

Look, the girls would be happy for you to barfine them earlier and then get to bed at 1-2. Girls you pick up at 5AM are going to be tired and not a lot of fun.

Member #3428

10-02-09, 23:03

Look, the girls would be happy for you to barfine them earlier and then get to bed at 1-2. Girls you pick up at 5AM are going to be tired and not a lot of fun.

Personally I agree with you as you know. I'd rather pay a good price and get a lot of action in early, rest, start again... BUT... many guys like the late night haunts and find that the girls are cheaper, more desperate to please etc...

With the poor economy, at 1 am the girls who have not had a customer and they gotta make rent just might agree to do a lot of things for lower pricing and that turns on a lot of guys.

What turns my stomach at late night is thinking I could be DATY where two / three other guys have already deposited that evening without her washing well :D :D

I just laugh at the girls walking back into bars after hitting up the ST crowd then going right back out the door with another one....

Pita123

10-02-09, 23:13

Personally I agree with you as you know. I'd rather pay a good price and get a lot of action in early, rest, start again... BUT... many guys like the late night haunts and find that the girls are cheaper, more desperate to please etc...

From reading about the Kids experiences, I gather that he's going to sleep alone at 11AM after striking out in Patpong, then Bossy then Spicey then Swing. Why anyone with ISG access ventures into Patpong is of course beyond me anyway.

Member #4285

10-02-09, 23:37

Buddy,

If you're having huge problems in Thailand, you won't even SURVIVE Vietnam, believe me!
I will keep that in my mind. My plans (pre paid flights) is to fly to Hanoi and there rent or buy a motorcycle and go along the cost down to Ho Chi Min City and then fly to Singapore for 4 days. Then to Philippines and so on. I will stay low and avoid trouble yes..

Why in the world are you going to bed at 10-11AM? What are you doing between 5 and 10?

Look, the girls would be happy for you to barfine them earlier and then get to bed at 1-2. Girls you pick up at 5AM are going to be tired and not a lot of fun.

I know, but im like a vampire. Im rather awake when its dark and go to bed when the sun is raising. BUT, tomorrow I have an apointment with a girl from Tilc on Soi Cawboy. Real beauty. Apointment.. sounds so silly, im still thinking that they are just girls that like to party and do some cash from time to time. Not real WG. But maybe they combine in one or another way. Its not black or white huh. Anyway, im thinking to be there when she starts working at 7 and BF her directly. I dont know what it will cost but im thinking if shes nice maybe 2 days would be fun and do some other stuff then only bom bom bom bom in my room.

Love in first sight? Yes, but I know it will not last for long..

Take care everybody!

edit:

From reading about the Kids experiences, I gather that he's going to sleep alone at 11AM after striking out in Patpong

Im at the hotel now, at 5 a clock, just to be fresh tomorrow. Sleep tight brother. =)

Key Master

10-03-09, 02:52

Who said I couldn't handle myself??? Did you infer that from my post?

And, whats the reason (other than the obvious)?

Sorry, got you confused by accident with YF2 who got into the physical altercation. I was tired when I posted as I changed countries prior. Based on your posts, I say keep PI on your list, the women can really make your trip there worthwhile. In regards to Thailand the women can do the same, but are to me more likely to be somewhat more of a downer due to their affinity to be more business like. Thailand has the infrastructure advantage in many facets though.

Goatboy55

10-03-09, 04:51

To go to SOL of course!!!!

I need a shower just thinking about that place!

From reading about the Kids experiences, I gather that he's going to sleep alone at 11AM after striking out in Patpong, then Bossy then Spicey then Swing. Why anyone with ISG access ventures into Patpong is of course beyond me anyway.

Rjsss212

10-03-09, 16:11

No sweat. Hey did the recent flood in Manila make things more difficult for mongering or create opportunities - you know the saying - never let a good crisis go to waste?

Sorry, got you confused by accident with YF2 who got into the physical altercation.

FlyingVisitor

10-03-09, 16:34

..... why anyone with isg access ventures into patpong is of course beyond me anyway.

i don't agree. patpong has one "landmark", which is sol. a unique place where skilful and experienced ladies give broad service - much better than [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. you can perform there whatever you desire, indeed - and this all happens in the public of the bar room - and under the view of other customers.
never met such a thrill anywhere.
(confidentially: will be back to them in two weeks)

f.v.

Member #2041

10-03-09, 16:41

The mention of SOL reminds me of a famous quote from Elmer Fudd:

"Be vewwwwy vewwwwy qwiet, we're hunting wabbitt......hahahahahaha"

Mouse1

10-04-09, 04:39

had a nice session with a young thai lady in singapore before jumping on my flight to thailand.

arrived at suvarnabhumi and phoned the shrimp, but she was still ill so i was left to my own devices.

made my plan: quick shower in hotel (soi 8), head up to beergarden for a beer and look for any old friends, watch the show in angelwitch, check out the fls in the car-park and on the street back to soi 8, then a quiet night in with a good book... :)

got out of the hotel, and thought 'sod the walk', so took a taxi to nep. up the escalator and round to aw, avoiding the clutches of the outrageously attractive blokes on the way, and into aw.

had a very clear view of who i was looking for: small, young but experienced (24-25?), good figure and nice boobs, some english. sat down right by the entrance, and was immediately approached by a young lady with a big smile. i grabbed a beer and soon after bought her a ladydrink (crazily generous, i know). we chatted for a little while, although her english wasn't great and it was a bit loud. guessed her age and got it wrong, as she was only 19... anyway, she quickly offered to come back to my place. she really only met one of my exacting criteria (small), not that there was anything wrong with her figure, but i have bigger boobs than she does! oh, and she had only been there 5 days. i asked the bar-fine (600 bht) and her rate for lt (2000 bht). sensing my hesitation the rate dropped to 1400 bht in an instant. ridiculous. at that price and with her evident enthusiasm (the criteria i forgot about at the start) it had to be a no-brainer.

to be honest, i thought it was all a bit too good to be true, and was looking for the catch...

got back to my room, where she wrestled me to the bed for a snog, and tried to strip me off. she broke off for a quick shower, came out and tried to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me. i insisted on a shower, lasting about 30 seconds, then back into the room. within seconds she was into a bbbj, and this theme continued for the rest of the session. any time there was a break in the action, or a change of position, she dived on to me for a good slurp. even at this point i wondered if it was a plan to avoid fs, but no... on with the condom, and into as many positions as my jet-lagged brain could think of (damn, just thought of another one :(). a few photos, as one does. finally finishing with a passionate face-to-face, dfk, missionary.

she had a shower, at which point her slight cough became worse, and after 20 minutes or so it was very bad. i said she should go and see a doctor, and she said she might go that night because her coughing would keep me awake. i 'joked' that she would be heading back to aw for another customer, but she said not. we agreed that she could stay st for 700 bht or lt for 1400 bht, and after some deliberation she dressed and headed off. i fell asleep with a contented smile on my face.

total damage, 295 bht for 2 drinks and a good show, 600 bht barfine, and 700 bht st for one of the best sessions i have ever had. actually, it's not about the money, and i would happily pay 5x that for the service (but don't tell anyone!). i have her phone number and if the shrimp is still poorly today i will definitely be back. :)

meanwhile i thought i'd check out mango. anyone know what time it opens?

Mouse1

10-04-09, 04:50

No offense, but what does your age and looks have to do with anything? BKK ain't the same as it was 5-10 years ago.

Also, the girls won't budge off 2000 ST because there a plenty of buyers at that price everyday.See below.

Wendella

10-04-09, 06:19

I said before nothing too argue about this. All info in the internet available Chinese med is a prevention medicine and a alternative to western in some case. And yes they do of course blood analyse etc. Even for 5000 baht. Cell and t cell etc. Bumrungrad charge you 15.000 for it. You know this test that shows that your body is cancer risk. This Chinese med works and the pharmaceutical companies know is working for prevention but nowbody nowadays even has find out why it works and why ist not working on some cell regenerations. Anyhow is nothing else as a alternative medicine with no side effect. And you have nothing to loose to try it. The Chinese doc has never said they are a better or someting like this. Its just a alternative med for prevention and healing.

I just take this thing to be free for ever from cholesterol. Blood circulation problem. Kiney lever problem. Good blood flow etc. Hopefully I will stay free for long time or for ever and report chiks activities for ever.

James bond never died.

Yes I also have no need to argue, so it seemed odd that right after you said that, that you instead continued to press your point, continuing to argue in other words, about how it has legitimate medical benefits, such as eliminating cholesterol (a false medical claim if I ever heard one), improving blood flow (this one betrays a lack of grasp of how the circulatory system works), etc. and that one has nothing to lose by trying it. I guess if they give it away for free that might be correct. Is that true? More importantly, if a person spends time pursuing this way of, say, reducing cholesterol rather than taking a medically sound approach like changing their diet to low-cholesterol foods, I'd say there would be harm in that.

This doesn't really have anything to do with the topic at hand here. but if someone came on posting about how all the girls in Cassanova are in fact real girls, I bet there'd be lots of people up here persistently disagreeing with that.

Mouse1

10-04-09, 11:37

Meanwhile I thought I'd check out Mango. Anyone know what time it opens?
The answer is 10am, and I'll continue the story in the appropriate thread :)

Amjeck

10-04-09, 13:50

See below.
AW and Tilac are apples and oranges!

Pita123

10-04-09, 15:07

AW and Tilac are apples and oranges!
Are they now?

Mouse1

10-04-09, 16:38

AW and Tilac are apples and oranges!Well, can't argue with that well-reasoned logical argument :)

Actually, my point was that in some circumstances you probably can negotiate. Never say never.

Fon Tok

10-04-09, 17:24

Amjeck

10-04-09, 20:08

Actually, my point was that in some circumstances you probably can negotiate. Never say never.
I agree. Mongers should always try to get the best deal possible, however, when girls won't come down in price one shouldn't be surprised, especially in BKK.

Remember, it's us against them. Let's do our best to ensure that us mongers keep winning!

Pita123

10-04-09, 20:42

Remember, it's us against them. Let's do our best to ensure that us mongers keep winning!
Us against them???

Amjeck

10-04-09, 20:44

Us against them???
Girls are trying to get as much money out of mongers as they can. Mongers are trying to get as much value/sex from the girls as they can. It's a war!

Member #3428

10-04-09, 20:55

It's a war!

War or sport or hobby? I consider mongering a hobby. Like golf trying to shoot the lowest score. Sometimes I do good sometimes I do bad. But to classify it as a war??

I have no problem paying a girl for sex, I have no problem with paying a freebie to go out and get a new dress, I have no problem in giving her some cash to help her out when she has emergency, they all gotta feed themselves and if they are my TGF I gotta help them in school etc...

I'm not trying to get the best value, lowest price etc... I'm trying to get the best performance. There is no basis for high price = high performance, so my hobby is to try to get the top performance out of girls not the lowest pricing. It's not a war for me.

My one friend, he told me he found a young coyote girl so hot but she would not go with customers (not BBBJ, no sex no nothing) so he paid her just for the opportunity to DATY her sweet pussy. Now that is a hobby, not a war.

The Pro

10-05-09, 01:33

Yet more spam advertising.

Please keep all this ll crap over in the ll thread.

Its an overpriced dump, thats my view which differs from yours, please not not try to spam it over other threads saying its wonderful, otherwise you will get replies like this.

The ll thread was set up to stick all the ll spam and advertising in its own thread, like annies is in the annies thread and tulips in the tulips thread.

For any newbies out there they should note this. For those who continue to abuse other threads with ll nonsense, please use the ll thread.

I just returned home from having dinner at Livingstone's Lodge. I hadn't been there for awhile. The poolside dining makes it a great place to take a date for dinner (my GF likes the Thai food). As always, the LL staff was very friendly and attentive.

While not paying attention to my GF I happened to notice quite a few very beautiful ladies strolling in and out of the Sports Bar. I just might have to go back there next time she travels upcountry to see her family. ;)

NicFrenchy

10-05-09, 03:00

More S.P.A.M.

Interesting how everytime someone writes a positive comment about certain places, there's always an asshole to try and discredit the poster (maybe to better fit his own personnal agenda?).

But what is even more interesting is that after that asshole posts his view, challenging the authenticity of the review, there are always a few "village idiots" coming in to "confirm" as if they knew something about it.

*sigh* the good contributors are leaving ISG but is seems the morons are still there... ;)

Fon Tok

10-05-09, 03:41

More S.P.A.M.I live in Bangkok most of the year. I eat dinner out almost every night. We like to go to Livingstone's for dinner because it has good food and the people that work there are especially friendly. My Isaan GF especially likes the laab moo, which says a lot for the kitchen. It is a special night out for us.

Sukhumvit Soi 33 is a ways from my neighborhood -- Silom. I've been going there to dine for over three years now. When I'm alone, the ladies in the bar are fun, too!

For the ISG members who feel they must post negative reports, as my beautiful Thai GF says, I don't care!

btw: this buffalo's f*nny's for you...

White Whale

10-05-09, 03:51

Interesting how everytime someone writes a positive comment about certain places, there's always an asshole to try and discredit the poster (maybe to better fit his own personnal agenda?).

But what is even more interesting is that after that asshole posts his view, challenging the authenticity of the review, there are always a few "village idiots" coming in to "confirm" as if they knew something about it.

*sigh* the good contributors are leaving ISG but is seems the morons are still there... ;)

This "the certain place" already has own dedicated thread. Who would be having personal agenda advertizing their friends business? Yes. I am one of those useless assholes, morons and village idiots posting nothing valuable.

How does your reply compare to these other assholes replys Sir? What is so much more informative in this?

BTW, I had not so pleasent stay in this heaven, wrote a report about it in here and surprice surprice PUFF it has vanished...

Member #3428

10-05-09, 04:31

btw: this buffalo's f*nny's for you...

Hey bite me Fon Tok...

You told me all buffalos were for me before.... :D :D

Shit... now even the water buffalos are butterfly on me....

Fon Tok

10-05-09, 04:46

Hey bite me Fon Tok...

You told me all buffalos were for me before.... :D :D

Shit... now even the water buffalos are butterfly on me....
Sorry, man. What goes around, comes around...

That's the nature of the tail...

Member #3428

10-05-09, 06:04

Yet more spam advertising.

We've been through this before... TT and you just increase Annies and LL hits on their web sites every time you folks argue these points. They should pay you for increasing their web hits.

Why don't you go senior member and take PM's just out of curiosity. There's a few questions I've been wondering about.

Fon Tok

10-05-09, 06:09

Yet more spam advertising.Please keep all this ll crap over in the ll thread....Its an overpriced dump, thats my view which differs from yours, please not not try to spam it over other threads saying its wonderful, otherwise you will get replies like this....The ll thread was set up to stick all the ll spam and advertising in its own thread, like annies is in the annies thread and tulips in the tulips thread....For any newbies out there they should note this. For those who continue to abuse other threads with ll nonsense, please use the ll thread.I am starting to think that there is a lot of ISG members who have sticks inserted in their...well...you get my drift.

I post a "Bangkok Report" about a dinner out at a well known spot that is a good place to take a lady, and all I get is grief. So what if it's got it's own thread, I chose to post it here. That's my privilege as a paying ISG member.

Makes me wonder why I bother with this at all...a lot of you guys are a just a bunch of jerks!

Take it to the Fight Club if you like.

Pita123

10-05-09, 06:16

I am starting to think that there is a lot of ISG members who have sticks inserted in their...well...you get my drift.

I post a "Bangkok Report" about a dinner out at a well known spot that is a good place to take a lady, and all I get is grief. So what if it's got it's own thread, I chose to post it here. That's my privilege as a paying ISG member.

Makes me wonder why I bother with this at all...a lot of you guys are a just a bunch of jerks!

Take it to the Fight Club if you like.
It was a good post. Just ignore the crybabies.

Daddy07

10-05-09, 06:16

...Makes me wonder why I bother with this at all...a lot of you guys are a just a bunch of jerks!...
Take it easy on him, Fon Tok ... The Pro is just a miserable LOS wannabe sitting home in the dark with his flashlight, comic books, and a big box of Kleenex.

Giotto

10-05-09, 06:17

I just returned home from having dinner at Livingstone's Lodge. I hadn't been there for awhile. The poolside dining makes it a great place to take a date for dinner (my GF likes the Thai food). As always, the LL staff was very friendly and attentive.

While not paying attention to my GF I happened to notice quite a few very beautiful ladies strolling in and out of the Sports Bar. I just might have to go back there next time she travels upcountry to see her family. ;)Fon Tok,

good to see you back last night, though we had no time to chat. Also good to see that we are still mentioned sometimes, though I did not write much lately.

Soi 33 is very quiet at the moment, it took another hit when the recession started last year. The number of Bangkok travelers is significantly down, especially business travelers - and that hurts Soi 33 more than other areas.

As for the girls working in the Sports Lounge - we have a quite good selection at the moment, we are close to the top of a cycle. I described that phenomenon in a report in the Livingstone's Lodge thread some time ago - some good girls start working, word of mouth spreads around, more customers come, other girls join, and the bar operates quite successfully.

Then YOU BESTARDS :) come here and take the best girls out, less customers come, more girls leave, word of mouth spreads around - and you reach the lows of a cycle. It has been like this all the years we are running the show now.

At the moment we have quite a good selection - so I know already what will happen next :) !

...
BTW, I had not so pleasent stay in this heaven, wrote a report about it in here and surprice surprice PUFF it has vanished...White Wale,

Sorry to hear that. Anyway – I doubt that Jackson deleted your report, and I did not either. So – just post it again.

...
Its an overpriced dump, thats my view which differs from yours, please not not try to spam it over other threads saying its wonderful, otherwise you will get replies like this.
The Pro,

Overpriced – good, somehow then our strategy works. Our beer prices are lower than those in Soi Cowboy and Soi Nana, and if you believe that THB 1,800.00++ for a room including internet access and All-Day-Breakfast is expensive (btw., if you are entitled for the ISG discount it goes down to something around THB 1,500.00++) – then you will stay somewhere else – and that is absolutely ok for me!

...
I just come home to the hotel after a visit at Giottos place. It felt good to talk a little and grab some beers. Thanks!Kid Icarus,

Good to meet you that night, I hope you are doing well now.

Giotto
www.livingstones.co.th

Member #3428

10-05-09, 06:21

Then YOU BESTARDS :) come here and take the best girls out, less customers come, more girls leave, word of mouth spreads around - and you reach the lows of a cycle.

At the moment we have quite a good selection - so I know already what will happen next :) !

Now who would do such things like that?

Giotto

10-05-09, 06:27

Now who would do such things like that?The Rabbit KTV,

I have no idea ... but YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE :) !

Giotto

Member #3428

10-05-09, 06:35

The Rabbit KTV,

I have no idea ... but YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE :) !

Giotto

ME ??? I'm innocent, totally innocent. I don't even know directions to Soi 33.

I haven't been there for half a year, there's some damn "No Rabbits Allowed Sign" posted :D

And since the new friends of LL and Annies seem to want to open up the same can of worms that we went through before I'll close by...

www.livingstones.co.th

Just to thank them for the free advertising....

You'd think they would figure it out by now that the more they talk the more web hits you get.

Member #4285

10-05-09, 07:12

so, i went to tilc to see if my date (call her a) were still there, and she was but she did not look like the day before. she looked that shes been awake for 2 days. or was it me who did not get the right wibes? one other girl (call here b) the night before were real cute too and when the first girl (a) could not go because she was already bf ill tried to go with her, but she was to tired she sad and did not want to sleep in my 2 ac 80sm room.

so, this night when i thought i would go with (a) but she looked so tired and could not speek any english i thougt ill go with (b) then. now, she was already dressed in personal cloths and had stoped dancing. the clock were around 24.00 but she was not bf. so i bf her (b) and we go for dinner. now, when we eat im thinking, hey, you speek much better english then yeasterday.. then, i understand that i had bf the wrong girl lol. this girl, we can call her (c) was a girl that tried hard to get me the night before but when (a) were bf and (b) did not want to go to my hotel because she were tired and wanted to go home with her sister i sad no and went home alone.

so now i have bf (c) that looks almost the same then (b) but when i get it that i had bf the wrong girl i lost my interest. she even was 27 with one child and not 22 without as (b). when we walked to the dinner i had a little erection. now all just feelt wrong. and on the hotel when she undress there is a mess in her pants but with cover for her period. okey, not that i have bf the wrong girl, she even has her period. now the chance to do something is close to zero. i dont even want a bj. im laying there in my bed with her snoring beside me and thinking, can i write this on isg? they are going to ban me or something heh..

maybe i should have confront here but i buy her breakfast and 300 bath for taxi. total cost, 1100.

but the story does not end there. today i went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), and a real cut girl is sitting outside and smiling. she realy stands out from the rest so i giv it a try. but i want cbj so i dont have to worry for anything. it works fine for me and it feels good when her head goes up and down. but shes so cute so i ask her if she wants to jump on and without thinking she do. tight and wet without artificial extras - i dont know if she is was realy in to it or what - she sits on me deep and moaning a little. i cant resist long even if i try to think on something els then her, and even if shes still and not moving i just cant. 5 min cbj + 5 min fs and thats it. 1100 is the cost but ill give her 1220 what i have on me. hope the tip was not to small, because im already thinking to go back for her and get same good service.

cheers :d

kid icarus,
good to meet you that night, i hope you are doing well now.

giotto

when im coming back to bangkok in 2 weeks i think i'll make a visit. tomorrow im going to hin hu or how it is spelled. i need a beach and clean air now..

Member #3428

10-05-09, 07:17

Im laying there in my bad with her snoring beside me and thinking, can I write this on ISG? They are going to ban me or something heh..

You really need help.

I cant resist long even if I try to think on something els then her, and even if shes still and not moving I just cant. 5 min CBJ + 5 min FS and thats it.

Finally !!! Congratulations.... about time you got laid but you really need help.

Member #4285

10-05-09, 07:31

You really need help.

Maybe :D

But I really like my life as it is. I cant help it, but im always involved in many strange situations, and has always been. I have stoped thinking so much about it and just accepted that thats the way my life goes. Sometimes its frustrating yes, sometimes I get a real laugh (when looking back), but for the most its really interesting and fun. Life is good.

Cheers :)

Acerboy

10-05-09, 07:33

I live in Bangkok most of the year. I eat dinner out almost every night. We like to go to Livingstone's for dinner because it has good food and the people that work there are especially friendly. My Isaan GF especially likes the laab moo, which says a lot for the kitchen. It is a special night out for us.

Sukhumvit Soi 33 is a ways from my neighborhood -- Silom. I've been going there to dine for over three years now. When I'm alone, the ladies in the bar are fun, too!

For the ISG members who feel they must post negative reports, as my beautiful Thai GF says, I don't care!

btw: this buffalo's f*nny's for you...Thanks mate. I'll check out the laab moo based on your recommendation and have drinks at the sports bar. It is good we exchange info and it is free but still people are not happy. But buffalo I'll give a skip.;)

Member #3428

10-05-09, 07:34

Maybe :D

But I really like my life as it is. I cant help it, but im always involved in many strange situations, and has always been. I have stoped thinking so much about it and just accepted that thats the way my life goes. Sometimes its frustrating yes, sometinmes I get a real luagh, but for the most its really interesting and fun. Life is good.

Cheers :)

You are too fucking funny....

Next time, come to MNL with me or when I am in BKK come on over. You are hilarious I will give you that.

So you going to go for trying to get laid two times in one day next?

And I think you are talking about Hua Hin...

The beaches suck, the bars are not that good and the area is pretty depressing overall.

Member #4285

10-05-09, 07:47

Next time, come to MNL with me or when I am in BKK come on over. You are hilarious I will give you that.

Im in MNL (Manilla?) and the area around from 6th-26th Nov. Maybe you are there and we can grab a beer and exchange stories.

Now im going up to the sun terrace and pool in my hotel. There is thunder outside now, dont get surprised if im get hit by the lightning.

Yeah, I forget to mention that I went to a MP on Sukhumvit road (somewere). Thought I would get a BJ or something but I only got normal massage and cucumber on my face. I was thinking if i should/could post that to. Actually it felt nice (in the heat), never had cucumber on my face before.

See you all, now im going up to the roof terrace.

Wendella

10-05-09, 08:31

Yet more spam advertising.

Please keep all this ll crap over in the ll thread.

Its an overpriced dump, thats my view which differs from yours, please not not try to spam it over other threads saying its wonderful, otherwise you will get replies like this.

The ll thread was set up to stick all the ll spam and advertising in its own thread, like annies is in the annies thread and tulips in the tulips thread.

For any newbies out there they should note this. For those who continue to abuse other threads with ll nonsense, please use the ll thread.

Just curious -- I've never been to this place. But if I did go there and liked it, and wanted to talk about it, would I be allowed to here in this thread? Think about it.

At best, you're using your gut feeling whether anyone who writes about that place is a bogus poster. You have no way to back up your claim. Making accusations with no evidence is irresponsible. There's no rule that says no one is allowed to talk about that place here. This is Bangkok Reports. It's in Bangkok. If you object, report the post to the moderator along with why you think it's objectionable.

So just following your logic here, if anyone posting positively about that place here is doing that to deviously help promote that hotel/bar, then it follows that you must be... a competitor. Otherwise, why would you care.

Mouse1

10-05-09, 08:49

I fell asleep with a contented smile on my face.

Total damage, 295 Bht for 2 drinks and a good show, 600 Bht barfine, and 700 Bht ST for one of the best sessions I have ever had. Actually, it's not about the money, and I would happily pay 5x that for the service (but don't tell anyone!). I have her phone number and if the Shrimp is still poorly today I will definitely be back. :)Well, the Shrimp was still unwell, so I was left to my own devices.

Wandered into AW at about 7pm to see if my young friend was around, but was told that she was off sick today. So perhaps the coughing fit was genuine? I gave her a call to see if she wanted to come and play, but she wasn't up to it. Not clear why not. I head off to Suan Lum to buy something I wish I'd bought on my last trip - a statue of an elephant with thin legs: every home should have one.

Then got a phone call from a lady who said that she wanted to come and 'boom-boom' me that night, and I quickly realised that it was the AW girl (the phone call came through on a very strange long UK number - redirected I guess). So we arranged to meet back at my hotel in 30 minutes. I waited in the bar outside for the further statutory Thai-girl 30 minutes extra, had one conversation by phone with her taxi driver, and then she arrived.

No make-up today, so not so good-looking, but no complaints and still hot to trot. Just like the previous night, she was up for it as soon as we got into the room (so it's true what they say about Lynx aftershave...). Had a very long session in all those positions that I could think of, and two that she thought of :)

Stupidly, I had been messing about with my camera and had put it on 'movie mode'. I left it on the bedstead pointing coincidentally at the bed, and accidentally pushed 'record' just before she walked in the room after her shower. What a waste of all that memory space... I'll just have to delete it of course, as it would be too embarrassing for her. Might have a quick glance first though I suppose... :)

Anyway, I had to be up at 5am the next morning, so went to bed while she watched a few minutes TV. Really expected her to make her excuses and leave, but she snuggled into bed next to me, and snored the night away. Dead romantic.

Few hours later the alarm went, had a very quick shower and decided I needed to wake her up. I found a very effective way :) Short but very sweet as they say. Gave her 1500 Bht and paid 100 Bht for her taxi the previous night. And she had a can of my beer, 58 Bht. Ridiculous.

I'll be back.

Pita123

10-05-09, 09:02

When Im coming back to Bangkok in 2 weeks I think I'll make a visit. Tomorrow im going to Hin Hu or how it is spelled. I need a beach and clean air now..

Why are you going to Hua Hin instead of Pattaya? For what you are looking for Patts would be the way to go. Hua Hin's beach, BTW, is full of horse shit. Enjoy!

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:14

After my Sunday morning visit to Mango Massage I wandered into the BierGarden for a recovery beer. Sat at the corner between a couple of girls, and the rather less attractive one wanted to talk. Bought her a drink because I was pretty sure that no-one else was going to.

Went outside and decided to eat at the restaurant opposite. Had to adjust my seating to eye a couple of girls at an adjacent table (with a huge pile of bananas on the table - don't ask). As I was finishing the more pretty one caught my eye so I offered them a drink, and they invited me over. (Something about her face attracted me, quite classically Thai or something. I'll post her photo shortly and you can all disagree). Not the youngest of girls, but I fancied someone with a bit of experience might be able to show me a few tricks I didn't know about. (Meanwhile the girl from the BierGarden came and sat at a nearby table and gave me a filthy look as I flirted with my two new best friends).

It turned out that my favourite new best friend was a qualified masseuse, and as my muscles were feeling a bit in need I accepted an offer of a massage from her. It was actually rather expensive for an in-call Thai massage, but apparently should it turn into a 2-hour marathon bonking session that would be included in the price, with no surcharge :) Mustn't grumble.

Back to the room, and we decided to postpone the massage for a little while while we found another way to sort out some tensions. Very nice, and she was suitably grateful for my attentions. And it did indeed end with a very good massage. All in all a very enjoyable experience.

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:20

OK, not a great photo, but I thought she was sweet.

BTW, see if you can guess her age.

Member #3428

10-05-09, 09:20

Im in MNL (Manilla?) and the area around from 6th-26th Nov. Maybe you are there and we can grab a beer and exchange stories.

I am in MNL during this time. Sent you a PM. I'll send a girl to your room to make sure you get laid. Mate I gotta meet you to see if you are real or a troll. :D

Why are you going to Hua Hin instead of Pattaya? For what you are looking for Patts would be the way to go. Hua Hin's beach, BTW, is full of horse shit. Enjoy!

I dunno... he likes cucumber on his face maybe he likes horse shit on the beach.

He doesn't sound like he wants sex too much so I don't think Patts is for him.

Member #3428

10-05-09, 09:22

BTW, see if you can guess her age.

37 and at Citadines ???

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:28

37 and at Citadines ???How the f**k did you get Citadines from a bit of paint on the wall, half a seat back and the edge of two shelves? And I was upgraded to a full suite. OK, smartass :) , what floor was it?

You're a lot better at guessing ages than I am too!

Pita123

10-05-09, 09:30

OK, not a great photo, but I thought she was sweet.

BTW, see if you can guess her age.
I'm guessing 43

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:35

Rather pathetically, I lie about my age when I talk to girls. On the basis that I can get away with being a decade younger than reality (due to my healthy clean-living life style :)), and I figure the girls would prefer not to think they were bonking someone who could be their grandfather (Yes, I know, I'm sure they don't care a toss. It's really just a vain male thing). So it gets a bit disconcerting when my imaginary age is less than the real age of my companion...

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:37

I'm guessing 43Well, at least you're not accusing me of being a paedophile... :)

Member #3428

10-05-09, 09:38

How the f**k did you get Citadines from a bit of paint on the wall, half a seat back and the edge of two shelves? And I was upgraded to a full suite. OK, smartass :) , what floor was it?

You're a lot better at guessing ages than I am too!

The paint, shelf and the couch gave it away.

It is Soi 11 Citadines. That's an 8 story hotel and about 120 rooms? And an upgrade to a suite means a one bedroom which is close to a deluxe anyways as I doubt they gave you their two bedroom, and the one bedrooms are on every floor if I am not mistaken so I have odds of one out of 8 to pick the right floor but the top is the pool. So I'll go with floor 5 or 6 but I'll pick 6 if I had to guess.

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:43

The paint, shelf and the couch gave it away.

It is Soi 11 Citadines. That's an 8 story hotel and about 120 rooms? And an upgrade to a suite means a one bedroom which is close to a deluxe anyways as I doubt they gave you their two bedroom, and the one bedrooms are on every floor if I am not mistaken so I have odds of one out of 8 to pick the right floor but the top is the pool. So I'll go with floor 5 or 6 but I'll pick 6 if I had to guess.Ha ha! At least I know now you weren't stalking me! I normally stay in Soi 11, but I booked very late (on Friday) and there were only rooms in Soi 8. A long walk, but a free tuc-tuc service. And it was the 2nd floor, but full marks for trying!

Member #3428

10-05-09, 09:47

Ha ha! At least I know now you weren't stalking me! I normally stay in Soi 11, but I booked very late (on Friday) and there were only rooms in Soi 8. A long walk, but a free tuc-tuc service. And it was the 2nd floor, but full marks for trying!

Hey they all look the same. 23, 11, 8... the decor gives them away every time. Good value for the price for me.

Ok so I owe you a beer at Baron Beach on soi 8 next time :D I'll even let you eat the shrimp while I wh@re around on 6. And then you can buy me a meal at the German House on soi 11 ;) while I am a good boy with the TGF....

Pita123

10-05-09, 09:51

Well, at least you're not accusing me of being a paedophile... :)
So how old is she?

Mouse1

10-05-09, 09:58

Hey they all look the same. 23, 11, 8... the decor gives them away every time. Good value for the price for me.

Ok so I owe you a beer at Baron Beach on soi 8 next time :D And then you can buy me a meal at the German House on soi 11 ;)Sounds good, but will I need my Platinum AmEx card for that one? :)

The Pro

10-05-09, 10:05

Annies and LL in the past have been unscupulous in their desire to "name drop" as often as possible in order to get more business.

I have tried both, Annies is not as cheap as they try to make it out to be and the quality of girls and the rooms is not that good.

LL while the food and service are ok, as a place to stay or its "Sports Bar" they are both overpriced for what they are and offer.

Owing to this Annies was split off into its own thread for pure "Annies" talk and LL was split off into its own thread too.

If you want to post all about LL or its Sport Bar or Giotto or anything else to do with that place there is a dedicated place for it here :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=754

If the moderator has gone to the trouble of filtering out a seperate thread for a certain item, then people should use that special place and not infiltrate all the other places all over again.

Perhaps you were unaware of the LL/Giotto/SB special dedicated away from everything else thread. Well, now you know :)

Just curious -- I've never been to this place. But if I did go there and liked it, and wanted to talk about it, would I be allowed to here in this thread? Think about it.

At best, you're using your gut feeling whether anyone who writes about that place is a bogus poster. You have no way to back up your claim. Making accusations with no evidence is irresponsible. There's no rule that says no one is allowed to talk about that place here. This is Bangkok Reports. It's in Bangkok. If you object, report the post to the moderator along with why you think it's objectionable.

So just following your logic here, if anyone posting positively about that place here is doing that to deviously help promote that hotel/bar, then it follows that you must be... a competitor. Otherwise, why would you care.

Mouse1

10-05-09, 10:14

So how old is she?OK, and you can all have a good laugh, but she was 42. When we did the 'Guess my age?' thing I flattered her with 29, thinking she was probably 32. She claimed to be 37 but later admitted to 42. I have to say that I am a perfectionist where figures are concerned, and hers was terrific. She wasn't defying nature and gravity, but she had obviously kept herself very fit, and I had no complaints.

Incidentally, whilst not in Tansak's league, I just calculated that from 5pm Saturday in Singapore to 6am Monday in Bangkok I had an average of 1 bonk every 4.5 hours, with girls of an average age of 23, an average cost of 1150 Bht (Singapore is relatively expensive), an average of two condoms and half a blue pill. Fascinating, I'm sure you'll agree :) Now time for a rest.

Member #3428

10-05-09, 10:23

She claimed to be 37

I told you 37... exactly what she said.... :D :D

I hate when girls ask me to guess how old hey are... it's usually a no win situation ....

Member #4285

10-05-09, 10:41

Why are you going to Hua Hin instead of Pattaya? For what you are looking for Patts would be the way to go. Hua Hin's beach, BTW, is full of horse shit. Enjoy!

I dunno... he likes cucumber on his face maybe he likes horse shit on the beach.
HAHA :D

He doesn't sound like he wants sex too much so I don't think Patts is for him.
With 100+ and counting that follows me and my worldtrip every day on internet it would be to obvious. But, if someone would like to go to Hua Hin and get some picatures on the horse shit and send it to me, then I can pretend that im there..

Mouse1

10-05-09, 11:16

I hate when girls ask me to guess how old hey are... it's usually a no win situation ....As you can see, I'm crap at estimating ages. So, I make a guess at the age based on where they are eg gogo bar, MP, FL, etc. Then take off a few years because they're always younger, or at least want to be thought to look younger, then take off a couple of years for flattery, and there you have it. Simple really. Everyone's a winner, especially Mr Sweet Mouth!

So if she works in an MP she might be 28, but probably looks 25, so tell her she is 23. :) There are of course additional subtleties... If the answer is 30, make it 29. If the answer is 16, don't go there!

Rambis Youth

10-05-09, 13:06

This "the certain place" already has own dedicated thread. Who would be having personal agenda advertizing their friends business? Yes. I am one of those useless assholes, morons and village idiots posting nothing valuable.

How does your reply compare to these other assholes replys Sir? What is so much more informative in this?

BTW, I had not so pleasent stay in this heaven, wrote a report about it in here and surprice surprice PUFF it has vanished...

Is this the post you're referring to? If so, it han't gone anywhere...

Dreams

10-05-09, 13:31

I agree. Mongers should always try to get the best deal possible, however, when girls won't come down in price one shouldn't be surprised, especially in BKK.

Remember, it's us against them. Let's do our best to ensure that us mongers keep winning!
I don't monger against anybody. In fact I monger to feel good, better and relax. So if I can find a way where both my provider and I win, i'll go for it. So, yes, as a moner I wnat to win, but i think i will only win if the provdres feel good too.. Just a different approach to things, i guess...

Dreams

10-05-09, 13:40

Yet more spam advertising.

Please keep all this ll crap over in the ll thread.

Its an overpriced dump, thats my view which differs from yours, please not not try to spam it over other threads saying its wonderful, otherwise you will get replies like this.

The ll thread was set up to stick all the ll spam and advertising in its own thread, like annies is in the annies thread and tulips in the tulips thread.

For any newbies out there they should note this. For those who continue to abuse other threads with ll nonsense, please use the ll thread.Before you and a few other a...holes went on with their absurd comments, I even had not heard of LL, let alone thought of staying there. But, now thanks to you, I did notivce, and based on many other evaluations, have decided to stay there when I go next. I have actually booked. Since I have not yet stayed there, I will not write any report. Unlike some of those who write things about places they have not even tried (have you ever stayed at LL?)

BTW, can you spot us to positive useful reports of yours, indicating girls, price etc? Thay would be useful to the "newbies" that you so much want to help.

Anyway, I will write a report, and, whether you like it or not, I'lll post it where I want, the LL thread or else.

Anyway, thanks again for pointing LL out to me, much appreciated.

Jeff46

10-05-09, 15:39

Pita123

10-05-09, 15:40

Then YOU BESTARDS :) come here and take the best girls out, less customers come, more girls leave, word of mouth spreads around - and you reach the lows of a cycle. It has been like this all the years we are running the show now.

Isn't the whole point to take the girls out? :confused: Be thankful we don't scalp them like Inglorious Bestards. :eek:

Mark17

10-05-09, 16:30

After having a nice time with my steady friend in Shanghai. I headed to Thailand for a few days (business trip).

Wanting to experience a good massage, I opted for Angels, instead of Tulip. I've been before, and always had good service. They are now charging the full fee at the desk. Used to give it to the girl, and just pay for the massage at the desk.

Picked a cute little thing with a nice rack. She was very quiet, and unfortunately the service was rather mechanical. But satisfactory.

Travelled out of BKK for one night, and while returning, I called a girl that I have known for awhile. Not a working girl, have only bought her some drinks, and give her a little for taxi money. Met her at the Landmark. And listened to the band. While she was in the toilet, another girl comes up to me, that I had met there last year. And spent a few nights with. I had emailed her, as I wanted to see her, but she did not respond. So I did not call her. Mistake, as I really like her alot. Explained I was with someone. So maybe try to call her tomorrow.

Had a nice roll in the sack with the girl I went there to meet, and she left in the middle of the night, as she had to work the next day.

Following day, I decided to spend my last afternoon at Annies. Nice selection at 4pm. And had picked one girl, and asked Aey her opinion, and she said "she is good, but does everything fast". So I did not choose her. Saw another girl in the back, and Aey asked her to stand up. Yep, that was the one.

Very nice face (9), and a body to match (9). And spoke great English and very friendly. Nice tub session. Then I wanted the soapy matress. (she was not great in this area). And into the bed. Excellent BBBJ, and full course. Laid and relaxed, she massaged me, and then one more round before I left.

Had a nice steak dinner that night, and just wanted to relax at the Huntsman bar, as I had to wake up at 4:30 for my flight home.

Ended up sitting next to a real cutie at the bar. She did not look Thai, and turns out she was 1/2 Chinese and 1/2 Thai. From Changmai. Works in Dubai a month at a time, and was spending a few days in BKK on the way home. Told her I was leaving early in the am. But ended up having 3 beers until the band finished. Bought her one beer along the way. As I was getting up to leave, I asked her if she was going to a disco now, and she said, "no, I go and dance with you upstairs". Why not.

She was funny as she first said, she will sleep on the couch. But we ended up showering, and into the bed. Excellence BBBJ. Her breast were small, but she enjoyed them sucked, and I made her come. I was a bit tired at this point, and ended up not finishing. It was about 2:30 or so.

Clock rang at 4:30. And I showered, and woke her. Amaizingly she was very pleasant. Freshened up, and left with me. We said goodbye in the elevator. And I checked out. It was raining when I got outside, and she was still standing there waiting for it to let up, as she was going to take the sky train. I gave her 200 and said she should take a taxi. She smiled and said thanks. Hope to see you again! (I did get her mobile number).

Got in the taxi. And just smiled all the way to the airport. The drive made some comments in Thai to me, which I took as he approved of her.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

White Whale

10-05-09, 18:13

Is this the post you're referring to? If so, it han't gone anywhere...

No, it happened eof 2007 and my report was written before 5th of March 2008. Maybe me being asshole, moron and village idiot I just cannot work the search engine :(

Giotto

10-05-09, 19:49

No, it happened eof 2007 and my report was written before 5th of March 2008. Maybe me being asshole, moron and village idiot I just cannot work the search engine :(White Whale,

I remember you being here at Livingstone's Lodge - and my estimations were also that it was 2 years ago.

You are for sure not one of the other trolls, that never have been here, and simply write bullshit. You have been here, and I would be interested in what you have to criticize, because we only can move forward if we listen to our customers.

I can assure you - I did not delete your report. I would have replied with my opinion about the criticized issues, and about our measures to fix the problems.

Giotto
www.livingstones.co.th

Member #3428

10-05-09, 22:34

Fuck This Get's Tiring....

No, it happened eof 2007 and my report was written before 5th of March 2008. Maybe me being asshole, moron and village idiot I just cannot work the search engine :(

OK let me help..... Is this it? Is this the big bad post of yours?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=715145&postcount=1611

" I stayed five days in ISG recommended hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 33. I will probably be the first and only non-returning customer. Housing was fine but I got real cold shoulder treatment in the sports bar after turning down two first girls who approached me. I had my reasons; just went to see the place, as first timer did not know the scene at all and I had a horrible jet lag. After I complained the owner put me between a rock and hard place ordering some girls from that evening in line before me asked who he should fire. Be in peaceful mind. No-one got fired. I think it was just a show. I did not find it funny."

It wasn't deleted, it's not that much of a slam you wrote about the place, I remember this post and if this was the biggest problems you had then on behalf of all the bar girls there at the time even I'll fucking apologize for you as I probably knew the girls during that time and I probably ended up sponsoring them anyways :D

Let me get this straight.... a girl approaches you, you say no thanks, another comes over, you say no thanks, so many girls are then going to let you be thinking you don't want company. The one thing about the girls are that they are not pushy (or they were not, back then in 2008, and not as my last visit a long time ago). Many guys want to come in and relax and do not always want a girl. So the girls give them a towel and talk and if not interested they walk away and leave you alone. You could have easily called over any girl you wanted and they would have come.

Your perception of a cold shoulder is that LL does not act like NEP or other places where girls jump on your lap all the time unless you ask them too :D And to tell you the truth when I was going there I'd sit down do my computer work in the bar with the free wifi and a diet coke and the girls would not bother me and let me finish my work. Once I was done with that crap then we'd start to fondle and enjoy :D

I can assure you - I did not delete your report. I would have replied with my opinion about the criticized issues, and about our measures to fix the problems.

Giotto

No matter what some folks think about Giotto he would not delete honest complaints, he would post about it, email you, talk to you direct, find out what is wrong, and try to fix. Trust me folks, I've been on both sides of the coin and the one thing that Giotto does is when there is a problem, or you feel you have a problem, he will go far out of his way to fix it or help you.

And that is one of the benefits of staying at the lodge that is more of a family feeling compared to a 5 star hotel or such. The condo's and other hotels you really are not going to get the help from like Auntie / Giotto / Staff. Now if you don't want that or have an issue that is not resolved in your heart or mind, then fine give it some time and move on. People's constant bickering is just jealousy, you don't like it don't go there, you don't agree with them on issues then STOP FUCKING GOING THERE. Is it that hard to understand that some folks need to carry a torch of jealousy flaming bright and around the clock??? Same with Annies. My lord some folks are children (myself included hehehe).

But you don't see me slamming places, just stop visiting places you are not happy with and move the fuck on in life. You want to do better then Annies or LL then put up the baht, open a place, and offer what you think is superior to them.

This is happening with MP's, look at Tulip moving to Snow white moving to Mango. So all you old ladies sitting around with a box of kelenex and vasiline should create a spot that is better then what you dislike instead of being an old ladies knitting club and just bitching for no reason.

oh... peace and I'm always happy to have a beer in Pattaya or BKK :D

The Pro

10-06-09, 01:42

LOL :)

I do not care if you stay at LL. Thats the whole point. Where you stay is up to you, however newbies need to be fully aware that LL is overpriced, awkward to get to in bad traffic, a long hot walk from the nearest BTS station, or a very wet walk when its raining, with old and awkward rooms. It has an overpriced "Sports Bar" as well.

If you want to pay well over the top for the use of a place that should be charging just over half the price it is for what it offers, thats your choice.

It might actually be your just deserts for beleiving the nonsense posted by a few of Giotto's friends about "how good LL is".

Its on par with the Nana hotel, which also has a pool, good food and lots of bars very near it. The difference is the Nana knows what it is and charges accordingly. LL tries to charge way above what it is.

If you are a person who likes good hotels, you would not stay at LL.
If you also are a monger you would not stay at LL.

Only if you are someone easily manipulated by a few friends of LL's owner who post on ISG and other forums in a "chatty" way and talk to each other over threads and name drop about LL all the time they can get away with it before someone (like me) raises it as being an issue again that its SPAM and not being confined to the LL/Giotto/SB dedicated thread and then Giotto see's the downside of the argument and asks them "off forum" to stop talking about LL as its backfiring "again" in the latest argument, only if you are someone easily manipulated by such bulletin board scam, might you consider staying at LL.

Equivalent rooms that are girl friendly with free Wifi Internet are all below 2000 Baht and located on Sukhumvit.

Equivalent priced hotels you get far more luxury for your money.

Anyway, enough of this off topic LL crap again........moving on :)

Before you and a few other a...holes went on with their absurd comments, I even had not heard of LL, let alone thought of staying there. But, now thanks to you, I did notivce, and based on many other evaluations, have decided to stay there when I go next. I have actually booked. Since I have not yet stayed there, I will not write any report. Unlike some of those who write things about places they have not even tried (have you ever stayed at LL?)

BTW, can you spot us to positive useful reports of yours, indicating girls, price etc? Thay would be useful to the "newbies" that you so much want to help.

Anyway, I will write a report, and, whether you like it or not, I'lll post it where I want, the LL thread or else.

Anyway, thanks again for pointing LL out to me, much appreciated.

Csun213

10-06-09, 02:05

NicFrenchy

10-06-09, 02:08

I think that most folks miss out on what makes the LL on soi 33 such a priceless experience compared to many other hotels on Sukhumvit.

I have never stayed in the rooms (I own a condo so no point for me) but have heard they have sufficient amenities and are comfortable.

Where I think LL has an edge over other hotels is that its owner is very knowledgeable on the BKK nightlife and you can sit with him to map-out your few days of fun. As if this was not already enough, you are always likely to find other ISG members there with whom you can debate on life in Thailand, politics, who's the best girl, who has the biggest tits, which is the best soapy....

Reading a forum is good and helpful but very limited as it only tells you the experience of the monger that wrote it. Meeting fellow forum members can give you better insight on what goes on with girls and places.
For example, I never wrote my best experiences or who my favourite girls were... but I have shared it with a few ISG members when I met them.

Also, the hotel is completely hassle-free! you can bring any girl and no one will stop you asking for a FEE because you have a joiner!

Anyway, I am just pointing out a few advantages members will have by staying at the Lodge (beside the 20% ISG member discount of course) and if you guys think that I am doing marketing for the place: then fuck you!

Member #4698

10-06-09, 02:57

Just wondering if anyone know whether you can purchase Ambien or it's equivalent sleeping pill in Bangkok? I would like to purchase a few to use on flights overseas.

I have never used it, does anyone know that it will work the first time or do you need to keep taking it for it to work. I have tried the over counter type sleeping pills but they never work. They do make me feel drowsy but I can never sleep on the plane.

It makes flying 14+ hours difficult if I can't sleep so any help from the frequent fliers would be appreciated.I get an Ambien prescription from my doctor in the USA before every Asian trip. It works in about 20 minutes. Pleasant dreams. It gives me 5 hours of sleep on a plane. Would not travel without. Just time it so you sleep in your destination appropriate time period.

I tried to purchase Ambien in my favorite BKK Pharmacy. Pharmacist said it was not available, but generic was. AMBIEN 10 MG = ZOLPIDEM TARTRATE 10 MG. So give it a try.

Another alternative that works is Valium 10mg. Valium is readily available in BKK Pharmacies.

DRRonin

10-06-09, 04:41

Just wondering if anyone know whether you can purchase Ambien or it's equivalent sleeping pill in Bangkok? I would like to purchase a few to use on flights overseas.

I have never used it, does anyone know that it will work the first time or do you need to keep taking it for it to work. I have tried the over counter type sleeping pills but they never work. They do make me feel drowsy but I can never sleep on the plane.

It makes flying 14+ hours difficult if I can't sleep so any help from the frequent fliers would be appreciated.

Yup - you can buy a version of Ambien in Bk at pharmacies without a prescription. It is the European version and called something else. I used it once on a flight home and it did me no good at all. Last trip I used Xanex (also picked up in a Bk pharmacy) for the flight home and it worked much better - but from what I gather what works best is very different for different people.

White Whale

10-06-09, 04:42

Fuck This Get's Tiring....

OK let me help..... Is this it? Is this the big bad post of yours?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=715145&postcount=1611

" I stayed five days in ISG recommended hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 33. I will probably be the first and only non-returning customer. Housing was fine but I got real cold shoulder treatment in the sports bar after turning down two first girls who approached me. I had my reasons; just went to see the place, as first timer did not know the scene at all and I had a horrible jet lag. After I complained the owner put me between a rock and hard place ordering some girls from that evening in line before me asked who he should fire. Be in peaceful mind. No-one got fired. I think it was just a show. I did not find it funny."

It wasn't deleted, it's not that much of a slam you wrote about the place, I remember this post and if this was the biggest problems you had then on behalf of all the bar girls there at the time even I'll fucking apologize for you as I probably knew the girls during that time and I probably ended up sponsoring them anyways :D

Let me get this straight.... a girl approaches you, you say no thanks, another comes over, you say no thanks, so many girls are then going to let you be thinking you don't want company. The one thing about the girls are that they are not pushy (or they were not, back then in 2008, and not as my last visit a long time ago). Many guys want to come in and relax and do not always want a girl. So the girls give them a towel and talk and if not interested they walk away and leave you alone. You could have easily called over any girl you wanted and they would have come.

Your perception of a cold shoulder is that LL does not act like NEP or other places where girls jump on your lap all the time unless you ask them too :D And to tell you the truth when I was going there I'd sit down do my computer work in the bar with the free wifi and a diet coke and the girls would not bother me and let me finish my work. Once I was done with that crap then we'd start to fondle and enjoy :D

No matter what some folks think about Giotto he would not delete honest complaints, he would post about it, email you, talk to you direct, find out what is wrong, and try to fix. Trust me folks, I've been on both sides of the coin and the one thing that Giotto does is when there is a problem, or you feel you have a problem, he will go far out of his way to fix it or help you.

And that is one of the benefits of staying at the lodge that is more of a family feeling compared to a 5 star hotel or such. The condo's and other hotels you really are not going to get the help from like Auntie / Giotto / Staff. Now if you don't want that or have an issue that is not resolved in your heart or mind, then fine give it some time and move on. People's constant bickering is just jealousy, you don't like it don't go there, you don't agree with them on issues then STOP FUCKING GOING THERE. Is it that hard to understand that some folks need to carry a torch of jealousy flaming bright and around the clock??? Same with Annies. My lord some folks are children (myself included hehehe).

But you don't see me slamming places, just stop visiting places you are not happy with and move the fuck on in life. You want to do better then Annies or LL then put up the baht, open a place, and offer what you think is superior to them.

This is happening with MP's, look at Tulip moving to Snow white moving to Mango. So all you old ladies sitting around with a box of kelenex and vasiline should create a spot that is better then what you dislike instead of being an old ladies knitting club and just bitching for no reason.

oh... peace and I'm always happy to have a beer in Pattaya or BKK :D

Yes it is. I owe an apology. This proves I am asshole, moron and village idiot who cannot work the search engine. My point was that you guys already have dedicated thread celebrating your friends business venture and you still need urge to expand it to other threads. I will not return to this subject aymore.

NicFrenchy

10-06-09, 05:13

but from what I gather what works best is very different for different people.

sames goes with Girls, bars, massage places & Hotels ;)

Wendella

10-06-09, 05:31

Annies and LL in the past have been unscupulous in their desire to "name drop" as often as possible in order to get more business.

Unscrupulous how exactly? I'm going to listen to what your side of this is -- so please spell it out. But please don't imply, say what you mean.

I have to say, it does seem to me as if the guy below who posted, the one who got accused of spam, was just a normal customer, basedon what I can see here.

That said, I honestly am wondering if there is some credibility to your argument (maybe there is).

Even if there is though, I'm still not sure that blind accusations are the way to go.

Member #3428

10-06-09, 05:43

you can bring any girl and no one will stop you asking for a FEE because you have a joiner!

Correction... no one will stop you for a fee because you are marching a parade of girls into the hotel :D

Yes it is. I owe an apology. This proves I am asshole, moron and village idiot who cannot work the search engine. My point was that you guys already have dedicated thread celebrating your friends business venture and you still need urge to expand it to other threads. I will not return to this subject aymore.

WW... I actually like your comment about LL and the girls and think it is funny that someone lined them up and said he'd fire them. I'm not sure it is Giotto as he rarely steps foot in the damn bar, but it could have been Auntie. Anyways I like that report personally. And the place isn't for everyone. Soi 33 isn't for everyone, I haven't been there for a while myself due to a no rabbits sign being posted :D Those damn Germans are getting strict and trying to keep the rodents out.

But what my personal feeling is that someone has a vested interest that has not come to light about knocking a few places in BKK. I believe someone, not you, has a commercial interest and is hiding behind their posts but I am sure everything will come to light some day. And it's not The Trav or TT... I personally enjoy their constant bitching with Giotto :D

Anyways, keep hammering away on what you like and don't like in Pattaya, BKK, and other places. We need reports and honest reports so keep them coming. I think it was a five day report you posted before and that was good.

And the offer of a drink in town was genuine, I'll even teach you how to use the search function :D Cheers...

M P Lurker

10-06-09, 06:08

Soi 33 isn't for everyone, I haven't been there for a while myself due to a no rabbits sign being posted :D Those damn Germans are getting strict and trying to keep the rodents out.

Ah, strictly speaking, I don't believe rodents and rabbits are in the same family despite both groups being prolific in the progeny creation activities. :)

Fon Tok

10-06-09, 06:29

...I have to say, it does seem to me as if the guy below who posted, the one who got accused of spam, was just a normal customer, based on what I can see here...Funny how a report of a nice meal out on the town ignited a firestorm of comments...

Yes, other than having a few too many sweet young Thai women on the line at any given time, I am normal.

But, funny thing, the longer I live in Bangkok, the less I have to monger! Darn.

oops: forgot my nasty habit of taking photos out there on the street...

Pita123

10-06-09, 06:39

Yes it is. I owe an apology. This proves I am asshole, moron and village idiot who cannot work the search engine. My point was that you guys already have dedicated thread celebrating your friends business venture and you still need urge to expand it to other threads. I will not return to this subject aymore.
Who is 'you guys'? Dude, one person happened to post something here rather than in the other thread. If the dumbasses with the agendas (not you) didn't start to make a big deal out of it due to them feeling threatened by LL or Annie's or some shit then the post would have come and gone and nobody would have thought a thing about it. There was no concerted effort to force the LL goodness spill into other threads.

Pita123

10-06-09, 06:43

Member #3428

10-06-09, 06:45

Yup - you can buy a version of Ambien in Bk at pharmacies without a prescription. It is the European version and called something else. I used it once on a flight home and it did me no good at all. Last trip I used Xanex (also picked up in a Bk pharmacy) for the flight home and it worked much better - but from what I gather what works best is very different for different people.

With all due respect, are you sure? Pharmacy's will give you herpes med's, genital wart med's, cialis, any antibiotic you want, viagra etc... they'll give you some strong stuff at great prices, but I couldn't get anything stronger then tylenol. I think you need a prescription to go to a hospital just for tylenol with codeine.

I think years ago the ministry of health removed Ambien from even the hospitals, you could not get a prescription in a hospital for it. Then later you could get like tylenol with codeine and some other med's only with prescriptions at hospitals. But rarely anything strong for pain unless you are admitted.

Also I know of a few pharmacy's that were caught peddling a fake Xanax and then some that were busted by the police before for carrying the real Xanax but charging a huge price for it.

One of the reasons I hear these things is that a local guy asks me to carry in Valium in particular for him and a few Xanax well hidden of course. I also think that Valium is a controlled substance and you can get popped for having that on you by the police. Wasn't there some reports before about an ISG guy getting jammed up cuz of Valium?

Then again... maybe I've popped too many of my own pills but I'm just not sure you can get these in BKK :D

Member #3428

10-06-09, 06:53

Yup - you can buy a version of Ambien in Bk at pharmacies without a prescription. It is the European version and called something else. I used it once on a flight home and it did me no good at all. Last trip I used Xanex (also picked up in a Bk pharmacy) for the flight home and it worked much better - but from what I gather what works best is very different for different people.

Previously reported about Valium that it's a class 4 narcotic. Xanax and Ambien are much more stronger then Valium IMHO... So I'd be a little careful and not sure you can get it over the counter, and I'd be very careful if someone did offer it to you :D

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=802273&postcount=3724

EDIT:

Xanax ( Alprazolam ) is a class 4 narcotic also

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/countries/law_thailand.shtml

Import Export Possession is prohibited with permission granted for medical purposes. You can bring it in with a letter from your doctor.

So I'd question what you can buy over the counter in BKK. I could barely get Tylenol let alone anything stronger. If you got it and can get the real thing then great PM where please. :D

Fon Tok

10-06-09, 06:59

So based on the pics you took, you are a leg man?
Legs, thighs, breasts...you name it. Light or dark meat? OK....

Rocksoff

10-06-09, 07:58

Wasn't there some reports before about an ISG guy getting jammed up cuz of Valium?

In passing, I did once see some cops shake down a white-haired white guy with a Thai girlfriend at the Ekkamai bus station. They found he had some Viagra. I didn't hang around for the outcome.

SE Asia Joe

10-06-09, 09:28

OK - come clean!!

Whoever gave me "the word" which resulted in me posting the following on the Cheap Sex in China Thread:

938057

- please tell me - are you a detractor or a fan of LL??

You guys...... Jeeeeeez!!

SEAJ

Dreams

10-06-09, 09:55

LOL :)

I do not care if you stay at LL. Thats the whole point. Where you stay is up to you, however newbies need to be fully aware that LL is overpriced, awkward to get to in bad traffic, a long hot walk from the nearest BTS station, or a very wet walk when its raining, with old and awkward rooms. It has an overpriced "Sports Bar" as well.

If you want to pay well over the top for the use of a place that should be charging just over half the price it is for what it offers, thats your choice.

It might actually be your just deserts for beleiving the nonsense posted by a few of Giotto's friends about "how good LL is".

Its on par with the Nana hotel, which also has a pool, good food and lots of bars very near it. The difference is the Nana knows what it is and charges accordingly. LL tries to charge way above what it is.

If you are a person who likes good hotels, you would not stay at LL.
If you also are a monger you would not stay at LL.

Only if you are someone easily manipulated by a few friends of LL's owner who post on ISG and other forums in a "chatty" way and talk to each other over threads and name drop about LL all the time they can get away with it before someone (like me) raises it as being an issue again that its SPAM and not being confined to the LL/Giotto/SB dedicated thread and then Giotto see's the downside of the argument and asks them "off forum" to stop talking about LL as its backfiring "again" in the latest argument, only if you are someone easily manipulated by such bulletin board scam, might you consider staying at LL.

Equivalent rooms that are girl friendly with free Wifi Internet are all below 2000 Baht and located on Sukhumvit.

Equivalent priced hotels you get far more luxury for your money.

Anyway, enough of this off topic LL crap again........moving on :)
...and tell us exactly , name, address, price, of other places you are refering to. If you have nothing else than the Nana hotel to suggest, then abstain, this place is a real disaster.

You have not answered the question whether you actually stayed, even once, at LL?

And last, can you name a few other places that you hate to suggest? As it happens, places you hate, like Annies and LL, I like, so maybe I could discover other places in BKK?

Have you ever posted a clear recommemdation precisely, or only write hate messages? Oh, yes,. i forgot, what else to expect from somebody who thinks that Bill Gates is a f....loser because he only f....10 women in his life..(How did you know?)..

Dreams

10-06-09, 10:02

Member #3428

10-06-09, 10:29

that is extreme arrogance isn't it.

how could anyone make the girls line up in front of an upset customer and then ask "which ones to fire".

how do you know it was even giotto and not auntie and if you know them even this happened you would know it is a joke as the one thing that giotto does is take care of employees more then you will ever know. loaned money, advanced money, taken care of them better then most the time the deserve. and unfortunately he keeps getting stabbed in the back.

this just proves you know jack shit about giotto. he can be a total arse but the one thing he does is take care of his employees. and hey, germans are arrogant hahahahaah (joke folks)

sorry, lets get off of ll posts on this thread eh.

nope, you keep bringing it up so let's keep the hits on his web site going because of you... you probably have a motive to keep bashing these places. but i find it so funny that you have such a personal (read financial probably) issue with things.

you want to let things die, then stop being a troll. i asked you to become a senior so we can pm and take it off forum but do you? hum... why? you afraid your motives will be found out?

fine lets go to the fight club...

with old and awkward rooms

how do you know?

if you want to pay well over the top for the use of a place that should be charging just over half the price it is for what it offers, thats your choice.

that describes 90% of the hotels in bangkok... and the rest of the major cities in the world but go on... what is the charge... 1500 with discount... i don't know i haven't stayed there in a long time... but that beats my contract rate with citadines... but go on... how overpriced is it....

it might actually be your just deserts for beleiving the nonsense posted by a few of giotto's friends about "how good ll is".

how do you describe friend? let's see, we argue so much and want to tear our throats out we should be brothers but unfortunately its the staff that makes the hotel what it is worth so tell me again how much he and i are buddy buddy... take giotto out of the equation and the hotel and staff still operates the same if not better as he is only a cranky old german :d

its on par with the nana hotel, which also has a pool, good food and lots of bars very near it. the difference is the nana knows what it is and charges accordingly. ll tries to charge way above what it is.

oh that is good... comparing soi 33 to nana... now i know you are on some serious medication...

equivalent rooms that are girl friendly with free wifi internet are all below 2000 baht and located on sukhumvit.

yes there are... and the point is what? there's 1,000's of hotels, you want to argue price points? you want to argue wifi speed? i'm confused, what is your point, there are many hotels around soi 3 to soi 11 that you can get under 2,000 and if you move far away from the area you can get some hotels at 800 baht. so what's your point?

do you know about placement in properties and the travel industry?

anyway, enough of this off topic ll crap again........moving on :)

moving on... you've not let it drop, ll and annies get web hits every time you open your mouth, you've proven your a troll and you're making everyone think you are having a financial interest in going after a few places.

you wanna meet in either pattaya or bkk then fine... but for some reason i think you wanna hide your true intentions and goals. i'm open to meet many isg members all the time.

Syzygies

10-06-09, 11:32

who would stay at sukhumvit crowne hotel, with [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) girls just outside one entrance?

anyway, one such [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) girl gae (gay), prettier than most, took me upstairs for a quick suck, while i played with her super c cups (all natural). didn't have that much time away from the missus, so that's why a quick blow-job was called for.

700 baht is a bargain but tipped her a bit extra to get the gear off too.

saw a famous tall slim ex-sol girl (with diamond tooth) arriving at 4pm just as i was on way out, now name changed to som.

NicFrenchy

10-06-09, 13:49

I'm open to meet many ISG members all the time.

Huh? you're going to drop from 14 to 10 fucks a day to meet an ISG member you don't like? jeez, you're certainly a better man then I am.

Gwailo

10-06-09, 15:33

Ah, strictly speaking, I don't believe rodents and rabbits are in the same family despite both groups being prolific in the progeny creation activities. :)

You are correct. Rabbits are Lagomorphs, not rodents.

Sonic Bam

10-06-09, 15:55

..... that LL is overpriced, awkward to get to in bad traffic, a long hot walk from the nearest BTS station, or a very wet walk when its raining, with old and awkward rooms. It has an overpriced "Sports Bar" as well.......
Now it is obvious you've never been to the place!
1. Overpriced - maybe yes, maybe no. It is only over-priced if it doesn't meet you expectations.
2. Where in Bangkok is not awkward to get to in bad traffic?
3. MRT is at the top of the road, less than 3 minutes walk away
4. Hot walk or wet walk - same as #2 above
5. Old and awkward rooms? All the rooms I have stayed in are well fitted out. Don't get what you're on about with this.

Mouse1

10-06-09, 17:14

Please, for the sake of the sanity of the rest of us, can we give this a rest now? :)

Suntangh R

10-06-09, 17:34

That is extreme arrogance isn't it.

How could anyone make the girls line up in front of an upset customer and then ask "which ones to fire".

This is degrading to the customer and shows complete arrogance on the part of the management.

Thanks for highlighting this, I had missed it in the past.

So its bad location for mongering (apart from the Soi 33 scene), bad for traffic except at weekends, bad for BTS, awful for MTR, overpriced for what you get with a "homely" (read that not luxury) room. (people often use the word "homely" when describing something thats not very good as an excuse for it, with an overpriced bar and overpriced girls. But the food is ok and the service staff ok.

Sorry, lets get off of LL posts on this thread eh.Pro,

Your animosity towards LL and its owner is obsessive. Sometimes, you behave that the women are trash and need to used as a servicing conduit; at times, you come out in favour of them. Secondly, you don't disparage other hotels. If people speak in favour of MPs or establishments you are not fond of, you think they are on their "payrolls". Whats wrong with you?

I miss OTH's writeups- they were cerebral, stimulating, albeit ascerbic and cynical.

Pro, you need a holiday!

Incidentally, I have not seen LL and wouldn't know how to reach there.

Can you make your write ups more stimulating (I don't mean pelvicallly stimulating, people know how to do that! )

Have a drink at sunset, and then look at yourself in the mirror. And decide whether you like what you see!

Giotto

10-06-09, 18:15

Please, for the sake of the sanity of the rest of us, can we give this a rest now? :)Can we :) ?

Giotto
www.nanahotel.co.th

DG69

10-06-09, 19:50

Funny how a report of a nice meal out on the town ignited a firestorm of comments...

Yes, other than having a few too many sweet young Thai women on the line at any given time, I am normal.

But, funny thing, the longer I live in Bangkok, the less I have to monger! Darn.

oops: forgot my nasty habit of taking photos out there on the street...

Nice photos from all day women in the streets of BKK. Nice examples of typical Thai female. Got the impression that this are the better looking examples of Thai women, though a critical look on their bodies shows the following:
1. The legs are short compare to the upper part of the body. A female body looks good if the legs are longer than the upper body + head. Most Asian women have shorter legs than the upper body without head.
2. The ass is flat. Which is for me a big nono. A female ass has to be round so you can put a bottle of beer on her buttock when she is standing without the bottle fall down. ;-)

David 2

10-06-09, 20:31

Just wondering if anyone know whether you can purchase Ambien or it's equivalent sleeping pill in Bangkok? I would like to purchase a few to use on flights overseas.

I have never used it, does anyone know that it will work the first time or do you need to keep taking it for it to work. I have tried the over counter type sleeping pills but they never work. They do make me feel drowsy but I can never sleep on the plane.

It makes flying 14+ hours difficult if I can't sleep so any help from the frequent fliers would be appreciated.
I don't know if you can buy it in Thailand, but I've been using it on and off for about 10 years. Ask your doctor for a prescription by telling him exactly what you want it for. The generic name is Zolpidem Tartrate.

And yes, it will work the first time and every time. You take it just before you want to go to sleep, and make sure that you have at least 7 or 8 hours ahead of you for some good sound sleep. I usually take mine just before I board the aircraft, and I'm sound asleep 30 to 40 minutes later. It turns that looooooong overseas flight into a managable leg.

Good luck.

David 2

10-06-09, 20:40

Have you ever posted a clear recommemdation precisely, or only write hate messages? Oh, yes,. i forgot, what else to expect from somebody who thinks that Bill Gates is a f....loser because he only f....10 women in his life..(How did you know?)..
He was one of the 10!!!

Satrai2000

10-06-09, 20:47

Artful

10-06-09, 20:57

I found buying sleeping pills (other than anti-histamines which are useless) almost impossible in Bangkok and Pattaya. Eventually, in Pattaya, a fellow farang overheard me asking in a Pharmacy then pointed me to a dentist that was selling Xanax. I bought some but read-up on it before I took them. They worked very well for me. I don't know how easy it is to get Xanax elsewhere in Thailand.

Previously reported about Valium that it's a class 4 narcotic. Xanax and Ambien are much more stronger then Valium IMHO... So I'd be a little careful and not sure you can get it over the counter, and I'd be very careful if someone did offer it to you :D

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=802273&postcount=3724

EDIT:

Xanax ( Alprazolam ) is a class 4 narcotic also

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/countries/law_thailand.shtml

Import Export Possession is prohibited with permission granted for medical purposes. You can bring it in with a letter from your doctor.

So I'd question what you can buy over the counter in BKK. I could barely get Tylenol let alone anything stronger. If you got it and can get the real thing then great PM where please. :D

Fon Tok

10-06-09, 21:15

I'm sure many of you have been to the Madrid Bar in Patpong. It's the oldest bar in the neighborhood (I've read), and is supposed to be a favorite hangout of retired Viet Nam era "spooks." There are definitely a few weathered characters in there!

Me and my Isaan princess have been in there a bit lately for the delicious pizza. In fact, we were in there last might enjoying a perfectly prepared Hawaiian pie. If you like your crust thin and crisp, this is the place.

While dining, I was checking out the very attentive working gals. While most of them appear to have been there since the American War, there's several that are true young beauties. Might be worth a look and a chat?

Sure, there's lots of pizza in Bangkok, and the Thai ladies that love it are known to grow large and curvaceous.

This bring us to the next topic: Noi's got booty...

Nice photos from all day women in the streets of BKK. Nice examples of typical Thai female. Got the impression that this are the better looking examples of Thai women, though a critical look on their bodies shows the following:
1. The legs are short compare to the upper part of the body. A female body looks good if the legs are longer than the upper body + head. Most Asian women have shorter legs than the upper body without head.
2. The ass is flat. Which is for me a big nono. A female ass has to be round so you can put a bottle of beer on her buttock when she is standing without the bottle fall down. ;-) "....better looking examples of Thai women...??"
Not really, the pics attached to the post were just a few shots from yesterday. PM me if you'd like a link to a much broader selection of shots.

Yes, but in principle, I would agree with some of your observations in 1 & 2 (above). But remember a photo is just a manipulation of light and camera angle. Also, lens configuration and post processing often distort reality.

But in the spirit of the often meaningless ISG discussion, I have seen a few Thai women lately with enough meat on their bones to pass the "beer bottle" test.

My gal definitely does... ;)

Jgm005

10-06-09, 21:47

As an X Spook (Tunnel Rat), as you call us, the Madrid does harbor a few of us. It Is my daily breakfast haunt.

I'm sure many of you have been to the Madrid Bar in Patpong. It's the oldest bar in the neighborhood (I've read), and is supposed to be a favorite hangout of retired Viet Nam era "spooks." There are definitely a few weathered characters in there!

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DG69

10-06-09, 21:51

Sure, there's lots of pizza in Bangkok, and the Thai ladies that love it are known to grow large and curvaceous.

This bring us to the next topic: Noi's got booty...
"....better looking examples of Thai women...??"
Not really, the pics attached to the post were just a few shots from yesterday. PM me if you'd like a link to a much broader selection of shots.

Yes, but in principle, I would agree with #1 & 2. But remember a photo is just a manipulation of light and camera angle. Lens configuration, and post processing often distort reality.

But in the spirit of the oft meaningless ISG discussion, I have seen a few Thai women lately with enough meat on their bones to pass the "beer bottle" test.

My gal definitely does... ;)

I was many times in Thailand and so I just felt that the first portion of pic you posted were a typical example of Thai-Chinese girls. Whose are often the better looking females in Thailand, with fair skin, quite tall, with nice faces, but with short legs.
The girls of the second portion of your photos are more typical examples of the horizontal challenged Isan girls. The girl of the first picture with the broad shoulders and beefy arms small hips compare to the waist is most likely a ladyboy. The girl on the second photo must be a midget. The girl on the third photo has a quite pretty face, but is all in all a bit chubby. Of course chubby girls have more beef on their asses, but also beef on the waist. Good looking girls have small waists and round hips with firm asses. This is very seldom in Thailand.
The girls on the 4th photo has obviously a firm butt, but is also quite short.
No.5 has not good hips to waist relation. She has also short legs.
No.6 is a most likely shorter than 5 feet. Most likely 4 feet 8 inch. Also, when god has hand out the waists, this girl has hide and so she did not receive a waist. There is no space between shoulders and hips.

Of course my critizism is extreme and cruel, but I like stunners more than performer and so, Thailand is not my shangri La. ;)

Csun213

10-06-09, 21:52

I don't know if you can buy it in Thailand, but I've been using it on and off for about 10 years. Ask your doctor for a prescription by telling him exactly what you want it for. The generic name is Zolpidem Tartrate.

And yes, it will work the first time and every time. You take it just before you want to go to sleep, and make sure that you have at least 7 or 8 hours ahead of you for some good sound sleep. I usually take mine just before I board the aircraft, and I'm sound asleep 30 to 40 minutes later. It turns that looooooong overseas flight into a managable leg.

Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. I have asked my doctor for a prescription for Ambien but he refused to give me one just for overseas flights. I guess he is worried about lawsuits if I OD or something.

I didn't want to purchase it online since I only need a few and they force you to purchase 30 min. Lastly, I would not be sure if I am getting the correct pills. This is why I was hoping to be able to purchase maybe like 4-5 in Bangkok to see if it works.

Pita123

10-06-09, 22:29

Thanks for the reply. I have asked my doctor for a prescription for Ambien but he refused to give me one just for overseas flights. I guess he is worried about lawsuits if I OD or something.

Tell him you'll use them on domestic flights as well.

Maybe he'll give you a prescription for just 2 pills? One for each direction? It isn't like you'll OD on 2 pills.

Fon Tok

10-06-09, 22:58

Funny! Last a week a dude here in Singapore in a mall was sneakingly taking pictures of gals, like you did. Now he is behind bars.Yet another reason to never live in Singapore!

Kendishman

10-06-09, 23:08

Barko,

Reading your report of the cock-squeezing ladyboy reminded me of a similar occurance that happened in August of this year in the same area.

I was staying a few days in the Crown Hotel on Soi 29. At around 11:30 pm I began walking from the hotel down to Nana. I lived in Bangkok for a year back in 1999-2000 and have traveled many times throughout Thailand and SE Asia, so I know it is possible to come across light-fingered katoeys (and other evil things) at night in this area. For this reason I never take my wallet or more than 3000 baht with me. This time I had about 600 baht and change in my front left jeans pocket, and 2 1000 baht notes rolled up in that small "watch" pocket on the front right side.

As I approached the construction area around Soi 23, I could see three ladyboys standing on the sidewalk watching me. One of them approached, smiling, put her arm around me and began feeling my ass and crotch area, saying something like "what do you have? " I kept walking, smiled, and said "mai chob katoey". I have never had any problems with ladyboys, sometimes they get a little too assertive, but I keep a cool heart and let them know politely that they are not my type and they leave me alone.

This time the damn katoey felt for my cock and grabbed the head of it squeezing really hard! I said Jep! And felt my knees buckle slightly. She kept her painful clamp grip on my penis a few more seconds and then let go as I was twisting away from her. Then she returned to her friends and I continued towards Nana, wondering why I received such cruel treatment.

As I walked another block I realized what had likely happened. Reaching into my front left pocket, I felt nothing but the fabric. My singha money was gone!

But I still had the 2000 baht strategic reserve tucked away. And I had an interesting story to tell the lovely (and gentle) bargirls. So I wasn't too upset about it, I just chalked it up to another interesting and learning experince in the land of smiles!

OK, I think something is changing too.

Normally I wouldn't say anything about this to anyone, most would say that it was an insignificant episode of city life, but I guess that we're going to have to stick together to get the warning out. Long story:

Last week, walking back to the condo from Oranges Massage, I was seriously accosted by the group of katoeys that frequent the construction zone between Sukhumvit Soi 29-31.

10: 30 PM, was just strolling along, mindlessly going over what had just been a so so hit on the massage place. The chick was too young, too inexperienced, but fuck me she was really really cute. Yeah, I was half smiling to myself, and I was also thinking about what was for dinner. OK. Never mind.

As I am just cruising along near the construction wall, suddenly about 3 meters in front of me, one really tall ladyboy dude steps in my path and exposes an enormous fake breast. He then quickly does that hugely exaggerated butt waggle up to me yammering some broken English about 'beeyootiful lady? " I smile, and say, "Mai aow krup, mai chawp katoey krup". (No thank you, I don't do ladyboys, thanks anyway.)

The motherfucking dude reaches down and grabs my cock! He then squeezed it so hard I had to turn over at the waist to pull away, he then dug his long fingernailed thumb in and twisted so hard that I had to double over.

Fuck me, from nowhere, many hands going into all of the pockets of my jeans, front and back. I have no idea how many there were. But as I looked up, the squeezer motherfucker was staring down right at my face with a demented glee that brought back too many bad experiences from when I was young. The guy was shwacked and he wasn't fucking around.

Something snapped I suppose. I fought back. Not really sure how I managed it, but I was pissed as hell. I dropped my weight down and away, lowered shoulder and decided that the only way I was going to get out of this was to fuck this one guy up real good. Barreled my head aside then did a hard American football tackle on the katoey's knee and at the same time sliding up with the intention of slamming his head into the ground with my hands around his neck. There was all kinds of shit happening behind me, but I never felt a kick or punch, it all happened too fast.

We both fell into the backside of a phone booth with him getting twisted up in some of that exposed wiring sticking up out of the busted sidewalk, then careened into the street with him taking the hard asphalt pizza slap underneath me. Falling directly into oncoming night time Suk traffic, a motorbike zoomed right by my head. I kept momentum, got to my feet and sprinted through the honking car horns to the middle divide of Suk, then ran as far as I could, dancing along the divider on the other side between the cars and the curb.

When there was an opening in headlights behind me to my left, I ran through to the the other side of Suk and straight into the 7-11. From the time I had bulldozed the dude, I had not looked back to the katoeys. When I finally did look back, I couldn't see anything, nothing. I couldn't hear any of them either (they make this insanely irritating pissed off screeching and yowling cackle when irritated.)

If those guys had chased after me, I was fucked. They hadn't. I slipped out of the 7-11 and jumped directly into a taxi that had slowed in front of my outstretched arm. By some miracle, they didn't get anything, and I had gone out heavy that night expecting some action later at Soi Cowboy. Won't be doing that stupid shit again, no sir.

Sound like a fucking movie? I guess, but I am still freaked out about it. The entire episode up to the point of the 7-11 must have taken 15 to 20 seconds at the very most.

Now look, I have not had anything like this happen to me in a long time. If somebody wants to pick on a guy, I am not a prime target. I'm old, but don't have a profile as being so, I dress young, have a good build, have all my hair and fairly pronounced wide shoulders.

Katoeys are usually very benign and low on my list of dangerous subjects. Hell, we have a fucking ton of them here in Phuket. I put my eyes in total 'ignore' mode when I see them, here they are easy to spot and a fact of life. This deal was the strangest godamm fucking thing but I am sure that this wasn't the first time of pulling this shit for those clowns on Sukhumvit.

You KNOW I won't be walking through that part of Suk anymore at night. But, guys, hey, be careful out there. Something weird is brewing in Thailand and I am not the only farang feeling it.

Danger and desperation lurking, especially in Bangkok. Maybe it's just the chemistry of the latest version of ya-ba. Who knows? Just be aware of it, be safe and take precautions now. I know I will. My dick was sore for two motherfucking days and my shoulder STILL hurts like hell.

Go safe.

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Daddy07

10-07-09, 00:55

...2. The ass is flat. Which is for me a big nono. A female ass has to be round so you can put a bottle of beer on her buttock when she is standing without the bottle fall down. ;-)
Are you looking for a girl, or a mule? :D

The Pro

10-07-09, 02:35

Now it is obvious you've never been to the place!

1. Overpriced - maybe yes, maybe no. It is only over-priced if it doesn't meet you expectations.

2. Where in Bangkok is not awkward to get to in bad traffic?

3. MRT is at the top of the road, less than 3 minutes walk away.

4. Hot walk or wet walk - same as #2 above.

5. Old and awkward rooms? All the rooms I have stayed in are well fitted out. Don't get what you're on about with this.I'll have to reply to this one.

2. Bangkok is not awkward for traffic in general, some places are and some not. I have lived here for 20 years so its all normal for me, but some places are worse than others.

Soi 33 is a nightmare as if you go out towards Phetburi road to go to the airport you will get hit down the small one way soi's with solid traffic, especially morning and late afternoon. If you go out to Sukhumvit similar story as you are nowhere "near" to an expressway entry. Why even the "Mick Licker" would onl stay at Soi 33 for a night or two, and if he had a flight to catch he would move to a better located hotel to make it easy to get the airport.

Sorry but Soi 33 can be at quite a few times in the day a complete nightmare to get out off when driving (eg taxi to the airport).

3/ MRT is at Asoke, which is a good 10 minutes walk from Soi 33. If you are referring to the BTS at Phrom Prong, you are only talking about the entrance, add a further minute to walk all the way from the entrance, up the strairs along and to the gates. From the entrance of that place in Soi 33 to actually being on the platform of the BTS is one long walk in the heat or the rain of Bangkok.

1/ Thats an old marketing trick. Something is overpriced if you can get better quality at a similar price, or the same quality at a lower price. Ignorance does not make over charging correct. Ignorance means people are paying more for what should be less, and while the seller makes a nice profit the buyer has been ripped off. So something can well be overpriced and yet meet your expectations, its simply your expectations have been incorrect to start with, and as I said, ignorance is not an excuse.

If the Democrats order lots of buses for Bangkok BMA from China and pay gazillions of baht, does it make it correct if they think their expectations were met and so the buses were not overpriced? My God, politicians would love that excuse to justify paying billions of baht over price on anything they buy.

Rocksoff

10-07-09, 08:55

Danger and desperation lurking, especially in Bangkok.

I've been noticing an increase in pavement derelicts, some crashed and passed out but many just destitute old people.

The Pro

10-07-09, 09:17

Barko / Kendishman,

By instantly saying "Mai Chop Katoey" you have in a way insulted them, as it means that you instantly know they are a bloke. Now whether you can or not these boys like to think they look like a girl, so if someone says "Mai Ow Na Khap" and leaves it at that, they might get a little kick out of it thinking you did not know they were a Kateoy.

However, saying instantly you do not like Kateoys kind of ***** slaps them that they are not a pretty girl, but looks like a bloke, and for some of these on too many hormones that kind of makes them snappy.

I would suggest you simply stick to "Mai Ow Na Khap" and keep on walking, and avoid in future saying "Mai Chop Katoey" directly to their face.

I mean, if you are in a bar and you like a girl and ask her to join you and she says "No Thanks" then its ok.

If she says "sorry but I do not like ugly fat old men" then some people might take offence to the honesty of the reply.

Same here with LB's.

Barko,

Reading your report of the cock-squeezing ladyboy reminded me of a similar occurance that happened in August of this year in the same area.

I was staying a few days in the Crown Hotel on Soi 29. At around 11:30 pm I began walking from the hotel down to Nana. I lived in Bangkok for a year back in 1999-2000 and have traveled many times throughout Thailand and SE Asia, so I know it is possible to come across light-fingered katoeys (and other evil things) at night in this area. For this reason I never take my wallet or more than 3000 baht with me. This time I had about 600 baht and change in my front left jeans pocket, and 2 1000 baht notes rolled up in that small "watch" pocket on the front right side.

As I approached the construction area around Soi 23, I could see three ladyboys standing on the sidewalk watching me. One of them approached, smiling, put her arm around me and began feeling my ass and crotch area, saying something like "what do you have? " I kept walking, smiled, and said "mai chob katoey". I have never had any problems with ladyboys, sometimes they get a little too assertive, but I keep a cool heart and let them know politely that they are not my type and they leave me alone.

This time the damn katoey felt for my cock and grabbed the head of it squeezing really hard! I said Jep! And felt my knees buckle slightly. She kept her painful clamp grip on my penis a few more seconds and then let go as I was twisting away from her. Then she returned to her friends and I continued towards Nana, wondering why I received such cruel treatment.

As I walked another block I realized what had likely happened. Reaching into my front left pocket, I felt nothing but the fabric. My singha money was gone!

But I still had the 2000 baht strategic reserve tucked away. And I had an interesting story to tell the lovely (and gentle) bargirls. So I wasn't too upset about it, I just chalked it up to another interesting and learning experince in the land of smiles!

LittleBigMan

10-07-09, 10:23

Csun123,

Hell you want to end up like Michael Jackson? Can't sleep! Have a glass of red wine and a cold tablet! You want to get a blood clot on your leg from sleeping the whole trip while in a Airplane.

The Pro,

You have good contributions to make but you are starting to sound like a guy that got Banned, " Domino " who just disagree just to disagree even though he had no reasonable explanation for his point of view! He disagree just to push people button and when he couldn't push the button any longer he started calling people names. Reality you can have a opinion about a place but like everything when you come to the end of the road because you just haven't been there or stayed there that's when it is no longer a valid opionion. Stay and visit the L.L. and then you can validly express a opinion. Nothing personal but when it comes to this topic you are starting to sound foolish and I think you are better than that when it comes to your contribution.

LBM

Hunterg

10-07-09, 11:12

The Pro,

I am only a casual visitor to BKK every year and cannot follow your statement. The Lodge is definitely a good place, specially for newbies in the scene. Very good advice from the owner and manager, a quiet place in a good location, very friendly staff, no pushy girls in the sportsbar, no problems to reach the airport, 3 minutes to the MRT, excellent food, what do I want more? I will come back. What is your problem with this?

Minuteman

10-07-09, 14:29

I've never had any problem but I am curious if anybody has ever had anything stolen by a working girl they brought back to their room?

After blowing my wad, I am a very heavy sleeper and I often wondered what prevented a girl from stealing my stuff and leaving before I woke up.

I, of course, lock up my valuables (wallet, money, passport, laptop, watch, etc) in the hotel safe before I go out to monger but I can't shove everything I own into those small hotel safes.

Ever been ripped off?

Are the free lancers more likely to steal than the bar girls?

Csun213

10-07-09, 15:57

Csun123,

Hell you want to end up like Michael Jackson? Can't sleep! Have a glass of red wine and a cold tablet! You want to get a blood clot on your leg from sleeping the whole trip while in a Airplane.

LBM

God I hope not, I don't have problem sleeping except on the plane on long flights. The bad part is I don't drink. Nothing wrong with drink but just can't stand the taste. Wish I drink sometimes because it would make partying and flights a lot easier.

M P Lurker

10-07-09, 18:12

Soi 33 is a nightmare as if you go out towards Phetburi road to go to the airport you will get hit down the small one way soi's with solid traffic, especially morning and late afternoon. If you go out to Sukhumvit similar story as you are nowhere "near" to an expressway entry. Why even the "Mick Licker" would onl stay at Soi 33 for a night or two, and if he had a flight to catch he would move to a better located hotel to make it easy to get the airport.

Sorry but Soi 33 can be at quite a few times in the day a complete nightmare to get out off when driving (eg taxi to the airport).

I would certainly confirm that it is a bad idea to use the back Sois from Soi 33 to get out at Petchburi road at peak hour (I did it once only and didn't quite miss the plane). If your plane leaves very early morning or late at night, no problem.
If late afternoon trip to airport, it is better to catch the taxi from opposite side of Sukhumvit Road and head directly to the expressway, even though Suk is moving quite slowly. Allow plenty of time. So I would even walk dragging my suitcase (on wheels) to Suk to catch the taxi.

So I haven't really had to move to a Hotel close to expressway. But flights to Australia go at good times (non peak). To other countries, not necessarily.

There are similar traffic problems in many other Sois at peak hour.

M P Lurker

10-07-09, 18:31

Of course my critizism is extreme and cruel, but I like stunners more than performer and so, Thailand is not my shangri La. ;)
Well of course that selection is not to all of our tastes. That is because was deliberately selected on big butt basis. So how about some examples of your Shangri La that are better than Thai girls?

Barko

10-07-09, 18:37

I've been noticing an increase in pavement derelicts, some crashed and passed out but many just destitute old people.Had a long conversation with a 33 year old taxi driver on the way to the airport tonight. He said that the situation in Bangkok is getting bad. "Far too many taxis and not enough fares." He mentioned that he is averaging 400 Baht profit a day now, but was making almost twice that last year. "More people are going back to riding the bus", he said. He also said that long neglected 'family crises' have become rampant in his home neighborhood of Nontaburi. "Everyone is trying to borrow off of everyone else, it's bad."

He also talked about people in general not able to afford many of the normal every day things that they took for granted in years past. And of course, he blames Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva for all of the country's ills. (I kept my mouth shut for once, Isaan taxi drivers represent many of the Red Shirt force, mostly uneducated and corrupted/manipulated.)

At any rate, he said that the negative aspects of localized society in urban Thailand are much much worse than just a year ago. "There is a lot more crime. Soon it will affect tourism" he said. I was thinking to myself, "Man, you have no idea, no idea at all." (Tourism is ALREADY down 40%)

Be extra careful out there.

Barko

10-07-09, 19:03

Well of course that selection is not to all of our tastes. That is because was deliberately selected on big butt basis. So how about some examples of your Shangri La that are better than Thai girls? I can site an example, Japanese girls. Many have incredible high bubble butts, and many start masturbating when they are very young. Good stuff there. Too bad that social mores these days prevent young freelancers from doing farangs. The good old days in the early 80's were a great inspiration for what could have been today. No dice. Lots of horny girls, but farangs are out of the picture (unless you know how it works. You ALWAYS need an intro.)

Looks can be created, performance can too. Same as everywhere. Young Thai girls are getting an attitude these days, they really think that they are all that (until they hit 26 yrs old or so, wake up and realize they are perpetually hungover and don't have shit.)

Have any of you guys noticed a huge influx of Thai P4P chicks over the last year? The Thai venues are jam packed with young talent now. Maybe things have just moved around and sorted themselves out that way, I don't know. What do you guys think? I'm seeing lots of chicks with fake IDs.

DG69

10-07-09, 19:09

M P Lurker

10-07-09, 19:26

I did already post some photos in the photo section, some time ago. Just check my former posts. ;-)
I did find some fairly ordinary Russian girls in this one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=873591&postcount=2144

DG69

10-07-09, 19:37

I did find some fairly ordinary Russian girls in this one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=873591&postcount=2144

Very good job, Lurker. There are also some more and even Thai and Brazil girls. ;-)

Satrai2000

10-07-09, 20:37

Yet another reason to never live in Singapore!It should be: Yet another reason for you to never live in Singapore.

Member #3428

10-07-09, 22:48

Good Catch Barko.... and it's only going to get worse.... Overall I think the economy will become more stable however I am not sure this high season will do as much as people are hoping. Too many places are banking on high season and I am not seeing that it will help as much as folks are banking on it.

He also said that long neglected 'family crises' have become rampant in his home neighborhood of Nontaburi. "Everyone is trying to borrow off of everyone else, it's bad."

Many Neighbors / Cousins / etc... have stopped talking to each other over financial issues with the girls I know (back at home towns in Isaan). Many girls "friends" from before have stopped talking to each other in BKK as well. So yes I am seeing this all over right now.

Room mates are turning on each other also at alarming rates (in BKK and Pattaya). One girl in BKK moved out with most of the items, owing her share of back rent never to be scene again except at Beer Garden of course. Pattaya girl has back rent and disappeared for a week or so but she showed up and made good on her part of the rent finally.

Have any of you guys noticed a huge influx of Thai P4P chicks over the last year? The Thai venues are jam packed with young talent now. Maybe things have just moved around and sorted themselves out that way, I don't know. What do you guys think? I'm seeing lots of chicks with fake IDs.

It's a buyers market for sure, the talent level in looks department in P4P has increased dramatically and the services you can receive are going through the roof lately. Plus it is much easier to pick up sales girls also for after work fun, much easier to get waitresses and students, and many of the venues have younger girls. BUT... the younger the girls and the more new to the game the HIGHER the attitude thinking that just because they are a college girl or work a department store and not a "bar girl" that they deserve higher baht. Which I don't understand, they don't perform as well, are less of a GFE and most are not even close to a PSE. So why pay more for a girl who is giving it out to thai guys for free but expects high baht for a farang to touch her goods????

If you have the baht and time, get to LOS and PI now as I think the talent and services if you play the game right are incredible. But if you pick up a fish / newbie then it will bite. Also do watch the crime I have heard and scene it going up. But it is still a LOT safer in BKK then in most major cities IMHO. Most crime is still centered Thai vs Thai IMHO and most tourists are left alone for the most part. Again IMHO....

Betong

10-08-09, 01:05

If she says "sorry but I do not like ugly fat old men" then some people might take offence to the honesty of the reply. Same here with LB's.Well put. If you really want them to know that you know (but then why would that be important to you?), then give them a kind of weary look. But, yes, the right response here as in so many situations is mai ao khrap. And give them a wide berth, especially if it's a group of them and/or at night. Often I'll cross the street, just to avoid the whole thing.

AfAsia

10-08-09, 01:29

After nearly a month long diet of Cambo and Thai chickens, and having read a report of availability of African chicks in Bangkok, corner soi 5 and Sukhamvit, thought i would give it a go. I`m prone to black girls, been on a number of African trips, and naturally hailing from Southern Africa, i guess i was lusting some some black girl action. Around the corner is Nana hotel in soi 4. I believe i was returning from an evening at soi Cowboy, roughly 3am, i saw a small selection of African chicks chatting away with some African men. The attendance of the menfolk is not good for business in my opinion. Many monger will feel an unease at this development, as i did.

Some of these chicks were definately doable, my man was pointing away at my zipper. As i say the menfolk were fucking it up for all concerned. You got to lose these loiterers, honeys! i walked on by. However, ahead of me and walking in my direction was a a fair sized pair of African boobs. Bingo! we in luck, but i sussed her attitude out quickly, some of my excitement subsided. We stopped and chatted. She wanted 1000B ST, i countered, 700B, she said no, i turned to walk away. She hollowed back 800B. I accepted, however, she was none too happy, having climbed down in price. I think perhaps she had been upset by a prior encounter, now i was to receive the blow-back.

Never mind, bad African attitudes are not new to me. We made our way to Nana hotel, Tanzania chick declined to take shower. I opened the hotel door, put 200B in her hand and said goodnight. Very quickly she came to her senses and went about repairing the damage. OK, the fuck was back on. Tanzania chick did her level best to flood Nana hotel with her shower, i spanked her ass and closed the shower curtains. Once all showered and on the bed she softened up, she had a good body, huge tits, which will no doubt pancake as soon as puppy starts feeding on them. Had each nipple in my mouth and pulled all of twelve inches from her chest, then went at it eating her out. Hot fuck ensued, i ruined it by blowing my load super quick. African ass always did it for me, i guess being a result of being molested by many an African lady whilst growing up in Africa. They always told me: once you had chocolate, you will never go back to the milky bar. They were partly wrong, i married a milky bar... not for long though!

Tanzania girl had the last laugh, nicking my condoms, guess i could have her banned from the Nana hotel if i wanted, what the fuck, i`m not going to that end. Just goes to show gentlemen, they nick anything not locked away or bolted down. We only talking about condoms here, could have been worse had she had richer pickings on offer. Lock your possessions away gentlemen.

Warning: Watch those drinks wherever you may be gentlemen. Approaching soi Cowboy from Asoka rd, to your immediate left as you enter soi Cowboy, is a live music bar, don`t recall the name. I plonked my ass on a bar stool. Not long after a sexy chicken bowled up to me. Soon enough after a bit of chinwag, we began to cuddle, the cuddle became a smother. To my left, a friend of hers approached, sat down, and shortly began to fiddle with my drink. I made as if not to notice at first, my instincts told me i was in in harms way. Shortly after, i pushed the drink aside, payed and left the bar.

Watch those drinks gentlemen!

Professor 1

10-08-09, 01:50

Some of these chicks were definately doable.

Agreed, I saw some nice African girls while there recently; however, I kept thinking: I did not come to LOS to do sisters. Perhaps, I live among too many. :)

Fon Tok

10-08-09, 02:14

It should be: Yet another reason for you to never live in Singapore. Not to worry...I like living in Bangkok just fine!

Singapore's the perfect city for anal retentive people. Just pucker up! Or, bend over if you prefer.

Room mates are turning on each other also at alarming rates (in BKK and Pattaya). My gal told me just last night that a new girlfriend had ripped off a pair of silver earrings I bought for her recently in Rajasthan.

He also talked about people in general not able to afford many of the normal every day things that they took for granted in years past. And of course, he blames Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva for all of the country's ills. (I kept my mouth shut for once, Isaan taxi drivers represent many of the Red Shirt force, mostly uneducated and corrupted/manipulated.) Good thing that Sondhi, Chavalit, Sonthi and Newin are coming to the rescue! Fire up the fan and get the bucket of dung. By mid-winter, the peak of high tourist season, Thailand will be on the front pages of international newspapers once again. Red v. yellow v. blue, etc., etc.

Well of course that selection is not to all of our tastes. That is because was deliberately selected on big butt basis. Thanks for pointing this out M P. Reading comprehension is often not a big priority here on ISG. BTW, I think it's a lot easier to find big butts than big "real yaboos" here in Thailand. Getting a good street photo is nearly impossible.

over and out... ;)

NicFrenchy

10-08-09, 02:46

Ever been ripped off?

No, but I did not bring many girls to my place and almost never girls that I met the first time

Are the free lancers more likely to steal than the bar girls?

Short answer's YES
Bar girls still depend on income from the bar and know you can go there the next day to complain to the mamasan. The girl could get in trouble for this.

Freelancers are free to roam wherever they want, if she really want to steal from you, she will first find out how long you stay in Thailand so that when she pulls a runner, she will not use that place where you picked her up until the day you leave.

Also, be very aware of these street stall bars late at night, they have a history of drugging people... you'll wake up on your hotel bed, with a big headache and half your stuff gone... and no recollection of what happened.

Mongering (especially late at night) isn't bad, but it isn't 100% safe either.

Member #4285

10-08-09, 13:03

i'm in nana now in a bar after the big nana complex on soi 4 on the same side. don't know whats is called but i'm feeling like cheap charlie tonight with 65 bath for all beers to 8 a clock. it's happy hour between 4 and 8. would be very fun to meet up some of u guys tonight for some talk. went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) again and had fs with the same girl. i asked how much for bf and she told me 4000 :o and the girl at the desk sad that to. 4000..

anyway, i'm feeling to get drunk tonight, come over to nana or pm. would be fun to talk and exchange stories. i'm going to the south and the islands, real soon.

cheers :d

Jeff46

10-08-09, 13:57

Barko / Kendishman,

By instantly saying "Mai Chop Katoey" you have in a way insulted them, as it means that you instantly know they are a bloke. Now whether you can or not these boys like to think they look like a girl, so if someone says "Mai Ow Na Khap" and leaves it at that, they might get a little kick out of it thinking you did not know they were a Kateoy.

However, saying instantly you do not like Kateoys kind of ***** slaps them that they are not a pretty girl, but looks like a bloke, and for some of these on too many hormones that kind of makes them snappy.

I would suggest you simply stick to "Mai Ow Na Khap" and keep on walking, and avoid in future saying "Mai Chop Katoey" directly to their face.

I mean, if you are in a bar and you like a girl and ask her to join you and she says "No Thanks" then its ok.

If she says "sorry but I do not like ugly fat old men" then some people might take offence to the honesty of the reply.

Same here with LB's.Short story.

Was a bit dunk lately in patpong. Wanted to look for my old friend manager king castle. His room is in kings garden just opposite sol. So went in kings garden asking for him. Very rude encounter from staff why I want speak to khun somsak. Is my friend told them. No way they just said not here.

Ok I understand. Walkt out the bar and touched a girl with my arm. Hey you she said. Fuck you was my answer. Walk away. Sit then outside have a gin tonic. Then a guy approched me in jeans and white t shirt. Showing me a card. He asked me if I can read what s written on his card. Yes I can read. Police. So and then? You follow me no problem. Why should I follow you? . You touch thai girl. What? You touch thai girl and speak bad to her. Fllow me. He also asked my passport. Not with me. In my room. You overstay he asked me. No no I am just drunk a bit now I told him. Ok we go police station. Make no problem then you no problem he told me.

Once in police car I was clear no more drunk quickly. Then I play I innocent nice guy with him. Please help me out. I nice guy do nothing wrong. He continue to tell me that I talked bad and touched the thai girl. She complained to police about me. Ten time I told him please mr police man help me out I did nothing wrong.

We arrived at the police station again mr police man help me out.

He said ok man. You pay 500 baht and apologize to the lady she is here in police station. I go inside police station pay 500 baht see the lady who I did not remember anyhow. Say sorry to her koh toot in thai. Then police told me ok you can go home now. Took the receive for the 500 baht fine and went home by taxi.

End of the story.

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Mouse1

10-08-09, 15:07

i'm in nana now in a bar after the big nana complex on soi 4 on the same side. don't know whats is called but i'm feeling like cheap charlie tonight with 65 bath for all beers to 8 a clock. it's happy hour between 4 and 8. would be very fun to meet up some of u guys tonight for some talk. went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) again and had fs with the same girl. i asked how much for bf and she told me 4000 :o and the girl at the desk sad that to. 4000..i honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to bar-fine a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl. but i guess i never did like the place. a real pleasure for me is dfk, and i could not ever do that, aargh, can't even think about it! for the same reason i always visit tulip, etc in the morning. i know a lot of it's psychological, but it's still real!

Member #4285

10-08-09, 15:28

i honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to bar-fine a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl. but i guess i never did like the place. a real pleasure for me is dfk, and i could not ever do that, aargh, can't even think about it! for the same reason i always visit tulip, etc in the morning. i know a lot of it's psychological, but it's still real!
well, i was hungry after the sex and thought it would be fun to eat with a good looking sweet girl. i did not care how many bj she has done totaly or in that day. gfe with dfk is fun yes, but this time i were more interested in her as person and not her kissings. next time im maybe want gfe with dfk with a madam, and then i bf a girl that i think would fit that, and yes, it would not be from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) then (i guess).

now i have taken a nice shower, and going out again. take care!

Wendella

10-08-09, 15:45

You are correct. Rabbits are Lagomorphs, not rodents.

I think they used to be categorized as rodents. If you ask people to give 3 examples of rodents, they'll probably say:

1. rat
2. mouse
3. rabbit

I'd honestly never heard of a lagomorph til I looked it up recently. Not sure I will remember it a week from now. Will probably say "rabbits aren't rodents, they're... something else, starts with an L.... you can look it up."

Jeff46

10-08-09, 17:42

Had a long conversation with a 33 year old taxi driver on the way to the airport tonight. He said that the situation in Bangkok is getting bad. "Far too many taxis and not enough fares." He mentioned that he is averaging 400 Baht profit a day now, but was making almost twice that last year. "More people are going back to riding the bus", he said. He also said that long neglected 'family crises' have become rampant in his home neighborhood of Nontaburi. "Everyone is trying to borrow off of everyone else, it's bad."

He also talked about people in general not able to afford many of the normal every day things that they took for granted in years past. And of course, he blames Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva for all of the country's ills. (I kept my mouth shut for once, Isaan taxi drivers represent many of the Red Shirt force, mostly uneducated and corrupted/manipulated.)

At any rate, he said that the negative aspects of localized society in urban Thailand are much much worse than just a year ago. "There is a lot more crime. Soon it will affect tourism" he said. I was thinking to myself, "Man, you have no idea, no idea at all." (Tourism is ALREADY down 40%)

Be extra careful out there.I am again once pissed off lately with the double price here thai price and farang price.

This only last three days.

Go buy kalaboo powder in a pharmacy in pratunam as usuel go in ask for one kilo they say 270 baht I said hey just three month ago was 150 went out no buy send wife to buy she buy it for 170

Go by taxi to new immigration office chaeng wattana laksi I knew is around 200 baht at noon time no traffic did not care taxi after few minute he say 500 baht many traffic no no you put meter on I spoke thai to him was not in mood to fight so bargain to 250 and 50 tollway

Motorcycle laksi want 40 no its only 20 ok boos 2O for you

Buy shoes with my daughter shoes for daughter 600 baht told daughter better you go buy alone not with papa farang with you she went later in same shop same shoes 350

Go sukhumvit buy creme in pharmacy as usual 90 baht now 160 ok went buy here in my soi again 90

Go up country with daughter to our home on the way buy a fan carrefour charge 750 this shop up country want 1200 ok go next shop daughter buy alone 700 same one

Stop market way home up country buy slepper want 250 crazy carrefour only 90 you farang no problem sheap for you was the answer I give up with shoping let daughter go this just last three day now I am up country home and yes they have all around finance problem come to me to borrow some money but as they never give back I say farang no money too now then they constantly ask daughter for some baht daughter understand the situation with a papa farang but she handel it in saying now papa stang nitnoi later papa have money again something like this.

David 2

10-08-09, 19:50

M P Lurker

10-08-09, 19:57

I think they used to be categorized as rodents. If you ask people to give 3 examples of rodents, they'll probably say:

1. rat
2. mouse
3. rabbit

I'd honestly never heard of a lagomorph til I looked it up recently. Not sure I will remember it a week from now. Will probably say "rabbits aren't rodents, they're... something else, starts with an L.... you can look it up."
Not being American, I don't even know the difference between a gopher and a groundhog. Prairie dogs I might manage to recognise but have no idea what hamsters are (I have to assume similar to guinea pigs). But most ISGers surely would think of "beaver" before rabbit. :D

I was totally shocked at the zoo to see Capybaras were classified as rodents despite huge size.

I could be quite wrong but I thought most rodents were in the scurrying category where as rabbits and hares hop in a totally different way. Perhaps they would be quite different in the ears (rodents with much smaller ears in proportion to body size) and maybe jaw/teeth are different. Rodents have to gnaw on things but rabbits probably don't.

So where I come from, rabbits look nothing much like rodents, without really knowing what is true definition of rodents.

M P Lurker

10-08-09, 20:30

Go buy kalaboo powder in a pharmacy in pratunam as usuel go in ask for one kilo they say 270 baht I said hey just three month ago was 150 went out no buy send wife to buy she buy it for 170

Try to use some punctuation, just a little, Jeff, even if its crappy like mine.
e.g. Make sentences.

My ex GF from 17 years ago was once married to a guy from the U.S. So although she has been divorced from him and living in the village in Satun for 3 years, where there are no farangs at all, she is known to everyone in the market as "Mia Farang" (a Farangs women). Therefore, where every other Thai is charged 30 baht, she will be charged 50 Baht, just because she was once living in a Farang country.

Satrai2000

10-08-09, 20:35

Not to worry...I like living in Bangkok just fine!

Singapore's the perfect city for anal retentive people. Just pucker up! Or, bend over if you prefer....Very true.

"Singapore's the perfect city" for hooligans and other trash to receive anal beatings. Chances that they will "have to bend over" to receive anal caning treats are high.
Or wasn't this what you meant.

Nvslim

10-08-09, 21:52

So where I come from, rabbits look nothing much like rodents, without really knowing what is true definition of rodents.

Don't forget squirrels, they are rats with better PR and a bushy tail.

Slim

Dinghy

10-08-09, 22:21

speaking of "squirrel" - ask a Thai to say the word.

"sa-koo-ah-en" is what it sounds like to me. ROFLMAO

s(ah)-koo-rr (becomes "ah")-in (r becomes "n" at end of syllable)-ren ("L" at end pronounced as "n") Same as going shopping at "sen-tran" (central)

Member #3428

10-08-09, 22:24

I am again once pissed off lately with the double price here thai price and farang price.

This is actually a good point to talk about with TG's. I always let the girls do the shopping. The ones that bargain and bargain hard I usually keep around, or atleast get a big check mark in their favor. The ones that fork over whatever the shop keeper asks I usually ditch very soon.

Well, I was hungry after the sex and thought it would be fun to eat with a good looking sweet girl.

Baby Kid has sex... what is that two days in a row? I'm so proud of you I could buy you a beer. Are you old enough to drink? Just joking...

On a serious note, if you are happy with Lolittas there are a lot more places you need to go but you're getting into the swing of things, but still not sure you're that interested in sex :D

For the same reason I always visit Tulip, etc in the morning. I know a lot of it's psychological, but it's still real!

Hum... maybe I have run into you outside Tulip being the first customer of the day.... as I have the psychological block.

Ok we go police station. Make no problem then you no problem he told me.

It could have been worse, but I'm a little surprise you didn't get it cleared outside before you went to the station. You sound like a long term resident, even if drunk I would have thought 500 baht at the area would have handled it. I HATE dealing with drunk / mental / crazy thai girls and the police....

So where I come from, rabbits look nothing much like rodents, without really knowing what is true definition of rodents.

Rabbits are obviously arse holes... According to some members on ISG The Rabbit is (you figure out the various languages :) and hope I got the spelling right ) ...

La putain de ta race
mitromem mizdayen batahat
Igao walang kang diti
Hua Quay
Yet Bpet
scheissekopf
lo de
đồ ch? đẻ
Mishugena
fucocktun
Blvdes Arschloch
Du haste Scheiss Gesicht
Ich finde Dich Schei
Wichser

Any my personal favorite:

der abschaum der menschlichen gesellschaft

Ah you gotta love ISG members :D :D :D

NicFrenchy

10-09-09, 01:43

Rabbits are obviously arse holes... According to some members on ISG The Rabbit is (you figure out the various languages :) and hope I got the spelling right ) ...

La putain de ta race

Man, Shut the fuck up will you? why try to use a language you neither speak nor understand? what you wrote isn't even proper french.
And stop trying to be the encyclopedia of ISG... we already have a senior member for that.

Member #4285

10-09-09, 03:31

On a serious note, if you are happy with Lolittas there are a lot more places you need to go but you're getting into the swing of things, but still not sure you're that interested in sex :D
Heh, well sometimes I am, and sometimes I am not. But sometimes (last week) I am but think I got 20 STD and can't preform. But I must admit, I'm more in to busty blond euro-s*uts with shaved pussys and skanky outfits. But the slim and nice bodys these ladys here have is nice too. But I'm getting in to the swing soon as you sad. Just give me some time (and a negative HIV PCR test (that's not an antibody test)).

Today im going out with a girl (staff) that work in the bar I spent some time in yeasterday. Normaly (what she says) she dont go out. The WG is 500 bath and the bar-personal is 600. She's cute but not super-model. She has this railway in her mouth (like 2 others in the bar). But she speaks very good english and thats a big +. Lets see what happends after the dinner and cinema..

Cheers! :D

M P Lurker

10-09-09, 04:23

Yet Bpet
scheissekopf
Du haste Scheiss Gesicht

O.K. I recognise "shit-head" (Deutsch), and "shit face" but the former appears to Thai for "fuck a duck"!

If you call a Thai an "Arsehole" literally translated,
"ai loo doot", it sounds really funny.
There are lots of non literal equivalents to "arsehole" but really none of them can be recommended:
"ai ngee ngao"
"ai hia"
"ai bprayt"
"ai sara le-oo"
etc.
Worth knowing when you are being called an arse-hole though.

Member #4285

10-09-09, 04:56

Worth knowing when you are being called an arse-hole though.
Yeah =)
But sometimes you know they call you something bad when you turn them down either its a girl, shoeshiner or something els I sometimes give the eye like "I know what you just sad". But it dont happens to often however..

Member #3428

10-09-09, 04:57

Lets see what happends after the dinner and cinema.. :D

Sounds like a good plan will hook up in MNL.

Worth knowing when you are being called an arse-hole though.

Getting a lot of that :D

Man, Shut the fuck up will you? we already have a senior member for that.

Now this is more like it. It's been too damn quiet around here. Good to see some blood flowing on the board and away from the PM's.

Member #4285

10-09-09, 05:06

Sounds like a good plan will hook up in MNL.
Yeah, I PM when im there. Its going to be fun to see what you are mad of..
If you find any euro-babes that fits my preferences tell her/them to meet me at Clark Airport when I land. I guess it will be hard to find, but if someone can, I guess its the rabbit huh.

Getting a lot of that :D
And not only in thai, even in english:
"Man, Shut the fuck up will you?"

:D:D

Member #4285

10-09-09, 05:24

This country turns your head crazy.

Just finnished the breakfast and the girl there is just so fine. Young, tits that stands more up then down, and perfect makeup and body. Im thinking, how much BF? Its a bad disease when you start think you can have what ever you want in an instant. Well, maybe its a good sign and all men can have what they want but with some work, but in this case I guess it will take longer than just throwing up a BF..

Like a friend told me at home: "when I come home after a visit in LOS and dont look at girls at home for 6 months." I guess he was joking but with some seriosity though..

Do the P4P thing makes us lazy?

M P Lurker

10-09-09, 05:45

A real pleasure for me is DFK, and I could not ever do that, aargh, can't even think about it! For the same reason I always visit Tulip, etc in the morning. I know a lot of it's psychological, but it's still real!
No its not completely real. Its partly a phobia.

If you find the thought of a girl coping a load in her mouth revolting or your subsequent kissing of her revolting, then I assume you would never have a girl cop your load. ;)

Any girl could have viruses/germs in the mouth, easily transmittable. So to be safe, I would suggest you you give up DFK altogether :( But I won't be, as I don't have same level of phobia. Its probably true that BJ girls are more likely to transmit Chlamydia from their mouth, so that is a risk for getting BBBJ more so than kissing, I think.

Although shit comes out of arseholes, I have rimmed a Thai girl on many occasions, simply because many of them are extremely clean, odour free, etc.

Really its all about the particular girl and what her cleanliness/hygene standards are. Microbes are everywhere so think sensibly about scientific statistical risks.

When my sensitive nose detects odours with a girl, then I tend to limit my activities and probably lose interest in her because she either not clean or has some problem.
How to tell the girl politely that her pussy smells? Now that is a problem!

Wendella

10-09-09, 06:41

Yet another reason to never live in Singapore!

I just came back in after a few days... I didn't double check to see what replies there have been to what I wrote yet.

But I wanted to ask you, about the LL situation, honestly, did you receive a discount for posting on the internet about LL?

I remember reading somewhere up here that LL offers discounts to people who go to a forum like this one and post a report of their experience at LL. Is that correct?

If so, I would be curious to know how that plays out in reality -- like do they need to then verify that you have made the post by looking at it?

Fon Tok

10-09-09, 07:04

I just came back in after a few days... I didn't double check to see what replies there have been to what I wrote yet. ..But I wanted to ask you, about the LL situation, honestly, did you receive a discount for posting on the internet about LL? ...I remember reading somewhere up here that LL offers discounts to people who go to a forum like this one and post a report of their experience at LL. Is that correct? ...If so, I would be curious to know how that plays out in reality -- like do they need to then verify that you have made the post by looking at it?My trip to LL was just a "dinner date' with GF#1. I didn't stay there. No discount, not even an extra prawn! Honest...

I've stayed at LL in the past when visiting Bangkok, but it's been awhile as I've had a place here for some time now. Nevertheless, I've enjoyed the company of Sports Bar ladies from time to time.

I think they still offer an ISG discount, but you'd have to check with them about the specifics.

Chok dee!

Giotto

10-09-09, 07:38

...
I think they still offer an ISG discount, but you'd have to check with them about the specifics.
...
Fon Tok,

Here the details:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=869143&postcount=19

Offered openly and officially since 3 or 4 years.

Giotto
www.livingstones.co.th

Minuteman

10-09-09, 08:48

M P Lurker

10-09-09, 12:14

I just came back in after a few days... I didn't double check to see what replies there have been to what I wrote yet.

But I wanted to ask you, about the LL situation, honestly, did you receive a discount for posting on the internet about LL?

I remember reading somewhere up here that LL offers discounts to people who go to a forum like this one and post a report of their experience at LL. Is that correct?

If so, I would be curious to know how that plays out in reality -- like do they need to then verify that you have made the post by looking at it?
You are not quite right.
From memory, the discount comes from making an ISG post about any experience in Thailand. Doesn't have to mention LL at all.

They (Giotto or Auntie Guido) do like to verify the person really did make a post, so you would lose anonymity. New members on forum would need to post well in advance of check out.

In reality, it is just an artificial hurdle for getting a discount without all customers being aware of the possibility, and has an aim to get more people to post something preferably with some information promoting something about Thailand.

Most people who use internet can get a discount some how at most hotels. But unknowledgable people may end up paying higher. It will never be a level playing field for everyone to get the same deal.

Mouse1

10-09-09, 15:10

No its not completely real. Its partly a phobia.

If you find the thought of a girl coping a load in her mouth revolting or your subsequent kissing of her revolting, then I assume you would never have a girl cop your load. ;)

Any girl could have viruses/germs in the mouth, easily transmittable. So to be safe, I would suggest you you give up DFK altogether :( But I won't be, as I don't have same level of phobia. Its probably true that BJ girls are more likely to transmit Chlamydia from their mouth, so that is a risk for getting BBBJ more so than kissing, I think.

There should be a sign that says 'He's doing dramatic irony!'

I guess I should have said, 'it's psychological but it's real in the sense that it has a significant and important impact on how I view the situation with respect to my concerns (real or imagined) about relative female hygiene standards and the arbitrariness with which we (in certain cultures) view particular bodily fluids (especially those generated my male sexual excitement) and not others'.

But my first version was a bit snappier. :)

So yes, yes, yes to all the other stuff.... To be absolutely precise, I find the thought of kissing a girl on the mouth when she has copped a load from some other man to be revolting. Nothing more, nothing less. F**k-all to do with viruses. :( OK?

Mouse1

10-09-09, 15:13

Hum... maybe I have run into you outside Tulip being the first customer of the day.... as I have the psychological block.Maybe. On more than one occasion they have been opening the door to me at 9.45am :)

Mouse1

10-09-09, 15:17

Its a bad disease when you start think you can have what ever you want in an instant.

Like a friend told me at home: "when I come home after a visit in LOS and dont look at girls at home for 6 months." I guess he was joking but with some seriosity though..

Do the P4P thing makes us lazy?The problem is when you come home and think that you can have whatever you want in an instant. I'm serious... Sometimes I've caught myself eyeing up a girl on the subway, and trying to catch her eye, behaviour which will get you a slap at the very least :(

Gwailo

10-09-09, 15:51

Not being American, I don't even know the difference between a gopher and a groundhog. Prairie dogs I might manage to recognise but have no idea what hamsters are (I have to assume similar to guinea pigs). But most ISGers surely would think of "beaver" before rabbit. :D

I was totally shocked at the zoo to see Capybaras were classified as rodents despite huge size.

I could be quite wrong but I thought most rodents were in the scurrying category where as rabbits and hares hop in a totally different way. Perhaps they would be quite different in the ears (rodents with much smaller ears in proportion to body size) and maybe jaw/teeth are different. Rodents have to gnaw on things but rabbits probably don't.

So where I come from, rabbits look nothing much like rodents, without really knowing what is true definition of rodents.

I can't believe this topic is going on so long in this thread, but rabbits at one time were considered rodents. But rabbits didn't really fit in Order Rodentia, a key difference is that rabbits don't hold their food in their front paws like all rodents do. Another key difference is a rodent has 2 upper incisors where a lagomorph has 4 upper incisors. http://www.lagomania.com/lagoteeth.pdf
The capybara is the largest rodent.

Bearsk

10-09-09, 21:25

Several rules (for me at least):
Put as much in the safe as you can - including laptop, ipod and phone (turn it off). I carry a monger fold with just enough money for the deal and keep it out, usually in the draw with condoms, lub, oil, handcuffs and other toys.

Don't pay up front.
In the screening process, I like Buddhist girls who go to Temple and that are not in regular drugs. IMHE look out for girls who drink heavily as well.

Make sure they give ID to front desk or security. I they leave in the night and have items with them,the hotel will stop them and call your room.
If your doing long time with them sleeping over so you can do an encore in the morning before you kick them out then tell them how great they were and tell them if they make you happy then they get a tip/taxi money in the morning. Also, with the present conditions in BKK many of them are going through an evening and not doing a deal. Its a buyers market. Problem is they don't prepare - so when it comes to getting home in the morning they only have the sl#twear they wore to the bar. I generally give them a T shirt to sleep in (rolls up for easy access!) and let them "borrow it" to go home in. If I see them again, I can use the T shirt as a bargaining thing - Will you bring my T shirt? Or if i don't want a repeat tell tehm they can keep it.

Most girls go back to the same place to FL (within limits). Find out before you take them who they know in the BG or Gullivers. Also ask them about where they go to Temple ... IMHO hookers for Buddha are less likely to steal.
BSK

I've never had any problem but I am curious if anybody has ever had anything stolen by a working girl they brought back to their room?

After blowing my wad, I am a very heavy sleeper and I often wondered what prevented a girl from stealing my stuff and leaving before I woke up.

I, of course, lock up my valuables (wallet, money, passport, laptop, watch, etc) in the hotel safe before I go out to monger but I can't shove everything I own into those small hotel safes.

Ever been ripped off?

Are the free lancers more likely to steal than the bar girls?

Bearsk

10-09-09, 21:40

I tried finding this: What times is the Thermae Cafe open?

Member #4537

10-09-09, 22:12

I tried finding this: What times is the Thermae Cafe open?

Last time I was there it was 8:30ish, but peak time is between 10-12...

Mouse1

10-09-09, 23:16

i am greatly amused by the hypocrisy surrounding the revelations about frederic mitterand.

the nephew of the former president stands accused of indulging in sex tourism over extracts from his graphic autobiographical novel the bad life.
on thursday evening frederic mitterrand put on a fighting display in an interview on prime-time news, refusing to step down as culture minister. he conceded that he had paid for gay sex abroad, but vehemently denying it had ever been with **** males.
a minister in similar circumstances in britain, for example, would have very little chance of survival. the tabloids would be baying for his blood, seizing on the many ambiguities in mitterrand's account.
for example, in the book there is no question that he is talking about having sex with "garcons".
in the much-quoted key section - set in a thai gay club - he says that "the profusion of boys, very attractive and immediately available, puts me in a state of desire that i no longer need to hold back or hide."
in many countries, this would surely be enough to bring him down - not because he is gay, but because there is an inconsistency between a government committed to fighting sex tourism and a minister who has been a sex tourist.but of course all it will do is reinforce the stereotype that men go to thailand to have sex with **** kids. :(

Artful

10-10-09, 00:31

This is a report on my 10 day visit to Bangkok and Pattaya in late September.

This is my 3rd visit to Thailand this year. I was in BKK for 6 days and Pattaya for 4. I'll try to report on Pattay soon.

I stayed at the Citadines 11 for 1500THB a night booked through Agoda. This is the best deal I've had for a decent hotel in a great location. I normally stay at the Dynasty Grande, which is also an excellent hotel, but IMO it's just not good value at 2500THB/night. I find it hard to justify 60EUR/night for a hotel in a place like Bangkok. Citadines 11 is still going for 1500 a night and i'd really recommend it.

Massages
I visited Tulip, Mango and Akane Fashion.

Tulip. I went here twice. First time with Jaow (I think). Looks, 4/10, performance 9/10. Second time was a home delivery with Nice. Looks 3/10, performance 9/10.
The girls at Tulip are trained to a very high standard. You will consistently receive excellent service here. I am an experienced monger and I have not received the level of service and the consistentcy that Tulip offers anywhere else in the world. Really.
BUT, and it doesn't get mentioned nearly enough on this board, the girls are ugly. Really. 3s and 4s in my opnion and I think the average is dropping since my first visit last year. How people on this board can recommend Nice and not mention how ugly she is is beyond me. Great service, but U.G.L.Y.

For this reason I gave up on Tulip and paid my first visit to Mangos. Mangos is the New Tulip. It is now for me the best sex massage destination in Bangkok. As has been reported on this board before, Mangoes was setup by Nestle, a Tulip alumni. The level of service, therefore, is very high. Not quite Tulp standards as the place, and girls, are still new but still very high. But where Mangos excels is in the quality of the girls and place itself. I visited twice. First time was with a girl whose name I've forgotten. Second time with Ann, who's much better looking in realilty than the photos. Looks 7/10, service 8/10.

I also visited Akane Fashion Massage in Soi 33. This is a very presentable place that caters to Farang and Japanese customers but it isn't worth it in my opinion. The girls are lovely, but they're not offering FS and the BJs are covered.

Freelancers.
This is my favourite category. I visited: Beergarden, Gullivers, Climax (was Spice Club) and Spicys. All of these places, IMO, have improved since my last visit both in terms of quantity and quality. Beergarden would be a much nicer place if they put some damn air conditioners in there, but still it's packed from opening to closing time. 90% mingers, but the 10% are worth the visit. Gullivers has a lower minger rate, thank god, but the numbers are lower and its a much more mixed crowd but at least it has air conditioning. Of the nightclubs, Climax is much more the pick-up joint than Spicys. Both are very decent though.

Conclusions: despite visiting Thailand 3 times already this year, I have big reservations about the place as a mongering destination. There's no doubt that Thailand's biggest asset for us mongers is quantity. You are overwhelmed with options: beer bars, massage shops, freelancers, clubs, soapies etc. But Thai girls just don't do it for me: they're subservient and have no game. Very rare is the PSE here and there's just no comparison between a Thai girl and a Latina in the sack.

Still, the quantity can make up for this and can allow you to pick the star performers from the crowds. To do this, however, you'll need time. Those that live in Thailand are in the best situation being able to slowly compile their lists of star performers. For the short time visitor though, it's harder as the % of star performers is much lower than in South America, for example. I'm not giving up on Thailand yet...I hope to stay there for a month later in the year and practice my theory.

One other thing about Thai girls: they're incredible clingy. Give them your number and you're theirs. I've learned to introduce a few get-outs in my early conversations, such as I'm here on business ( a lie) so that I can make my excuses later.

Hope that was useful.

Mouse1

10-10-09, 01:44

Tulip. The girls are ugly. Really. 3s and 4s in my opnion and I think the average is dropping since my first visit last year. How people on this board can recommend Nice and not mention how ugly she is is beyond me. Great service, but U.G.L.Y.That's probably because most people don't think she is... Not saying she is a pin-up girl, but I would certainly never describe her as ugly:

1. of unpleasant or unsightly appearance
2. repulsive, objectionable, or displeasing in any way

Took her for a bite to eat once after a take-out. She was smartly dressed, and looked, well, quite attractive with her spiky hair. :) Anyway, let's not have a debate on whether she is a 3/10 or a 7/10, but agree that beauty is pretty subjective.

(Actually, I'm not really that bothered about facial appearance - much more concerned about physique. Recently picked up a lovely girl from AngelWitch, fantastic time, and it was only on looking at my photos of her without her make-up that I remembered how plain she was. Still had a great time though :))

But I am in complete agreement with you about Citadines Soi 11.

Artful

10-10-09, 01:55

Really, the two definitions you've given of ugly apply to her. I don't mean to pick her out from the crowd, only as an example of the low (physical) quality of the Tulip girls.

But, yes, she's a nice girl and, as with all Tulup gals, fabulous service.

That's probably because most people don't think she is... Not saying she is a pin-up girl, but I would certainly never describe her as ugly:

1. of unpleasant or unsightly appearance
2. repulsive, objectionable, or displeasing in any way

Took her for a bite to eat once after a take-out. She was smartly dressed, and looked, well, quite attractive with her spiky hair. :) Anyway, let's not have a debate on whether she is a 3/10 or a 7/10, but agree that beauty is pretty subjective.

(Actually, I'm not really that bothered about facial appearance - much more concerned about physique. Recently picked up a lovely girl from AngelWitch, fantastic time, and it was only on looking at my photos of her without her make-up that I remembered how plain she was. Still had a great time though :))

But I am in complete agreement with you about Citadines Soi 11.

Member #4285

10-10-09, 05:00

I just asked the girl out that are working in the restaurant. Dont know if im going to get laid, but shes hot (IMO). She hesitate a little but sad yes. Wow, my first non WG date.

Cheers :D

NicFrenchy

10-10-09, 05:28

I also visited Akane Fashion Massage in Soi 33. This is a very presentable place that caters to Farang and Japanese customers but it isn't worth it in my opinion. The girls are lovely, but they're not offering FS and the BJs are covered.

Well, let's say you did not have the full Akane Experience then ;)

I used to go there quite often and don't recall ever geting a CBJ there. It's all BBBJ and as many times as you can pop (used to be 3 for me in a 90mn session).

Also, I should not say this but... I had FS with 3 Akane girls... on premises. I guess it's a case of YMMV ;)

I loved Akane because it brings something different to the Hardness of P4P in Bangkok.

NicFrenchy

10-10-09, 05:36

How people on this board can recommend Nice and not mention how ugly she is is beyond me. Great service, but U.G.L.Y.

Well, that's a "nice" thing to say!

How do you think it goes for these girls? you think their dream was to have a fat, sweaty ugly man lay and rub on top of them, force them to get a blowjob and then shove their dicks inside them and force them? add to this lack of hygiene, strong Body Odor.... I'm sure they love it!

Look in the mirror before being so judgemental

NicFrenchy

10-10-09, 05:45

I just asked the girl out that are working in the restaurant. Dont know if im going to get laid, but shes hot (IMO). She hesitate a little but sad yes. Wow, my first non WG date.

Cheers :D

I'd say the chances are really high of you getting laid. I have had great success with non WG (as you call them).

Just make sure you treat her nice (restaurant, movie, drinks...) you can also go and play some games with her, I know it's a little dumb for a first date but...somehow, the "fun" factor that gaming brings has been for me a very good "panties opener".

If she's having fun with you, then she will follow you to your hotel room to have a drink (read: sex).

If you are too serious, she might get bored quickly and sms her friends, begging for them to give her an exit strategy.

Also, don't be surprised if she brings a friend (or 2) to the dinner... it's normal practice.

Yes, the evening might end up costing you a lot more than P4P but.... pussy won is far sweeter than pussy purchased no? ;)
And as I guess you're not an old fart like most here (yes Tansak KTV, I am referring to you! :D ) then i'd say your chances are pretty good.

Canyon

10-10-09, 06:30

Artful,

Thank you for the report. I did find it useful. However, I would like to go on record as disagreeing with two of your observations. Nice is definitely not ugly. I find her cute and even attractive in a way. Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder, but I have high standards, and Nice cannot be called ugly by any stretch of the imagination.

With regard to Latinas, I have had experience in Rio, Peru and Panama, and I prefer Thais to the Latinas. I have had both good and bad in both Thailand and Latin America, but I certainly didn't find Latinas, in general. to be better in the sack than Thais. Latinas are somewhat more uninhibited, if that is what you mean, but Thais give a warmer, more gfe experience. I think that some members reading your post, then going to Latin America will be disappointed, when they find out that some Latinas are good, but others are not so good.

TimTimGuy

10-10-09, 06:37

Artful,
... I have high standards, and Nice cannot be called ugly by any stretch of the imagination.

Thanks for saying it, Canyon. Artful's comment is the first thing I've read in the forum that really made me angry. I know Nice and like her, in the interest of full disclosure, and ... enough said. ~TTG

Member #3428

10-10-09, 06:56

I had FS with 3 Akane girls... on premises. I guess it's a case of YMMV

So that is where YMMV is located at ;)

I loved Akane because it brings something different to the Hardness of P4P in Bangkok.

Guess that is why I never enjoyed it. I kept sitting there wondering where's the sex? No seriously, I kept waiting for it...

However as a great philosopher once said (come one Frenchy I know you know this one)

"It's hard to argue with a good blow job."

I'd say the chances are really high of you getting laid. I have had great success with non WG (as you call them).

You are young, fit, have baht in your pocket, and have lived in BKK for many years.... I think you have some distinct advantages others do not have.

However the economy is so bad right now there is much higher rate of girls going for a little extra's after hour activity. And Kid I think is younger then you if I'm not mistaken.

If she's having fun with you, then she will follow you to your hotel room to have a drink (read: sex).

I've used the "I need to get the laundry out of the machine" & "I need to check work email" and others to get back to the room. If she follows you then yes there is a high chance you will get her panties off and nail her on the bed (or in my case usually the couch as I don't want to mess up the sheets).

Yes, the evening might end up costing you a lot more than P4P but.... pussy won is far sweeter than pussy purchased no?

Yes usually it does cost more. And it is debatable if purchasing is such a bad thing but I am becoming corrupted. I'm not sure I'd buy when I could rent. I'm not even sure I'm into a long term lease. Hell I'm starting to think that a time share is not that bad of an idea :D

But going on what is probably your frame of thought... I will have to admit that getting the flower shop girl on her day off for free did let me check mark an accomplishment even if it did cost me a visit to the spa. I consider that a win over a purchase (and it did work with the, I need to go back get the laundry out of the machine do you mind stopping at my place for a moment, and yes it was all on the couch. I hate to mess the bed up before bringing back the all nighter).

And as I guess you're not an old fart like most here (yes Tansak KTV, I am referring to you! :D ) then i'd say your chances are pretty good.

Think he's about your age, 32 or 33. But since when did 40 become old? Ok then I'm now a member of the Senior Monger Association.

In my culture anyone younger then you has to do what you say, so let's follow this next time we go out. I'll gladly let you rent the 3, 4 or so girls I take for that evening. As I am starting to follow what the same philosopher said...

"I never fucked a ten, but one night, I fucked five twos. :D :D "

NicFrenchy

10-10-09, 07:15

In my culture anyone younger then you has to do what you say, so let's follow this next time we go out. I'll gladly let you rent the 3, 4 or so girls I take for that evening. As I am starting to follow what the same philosopher said...

"I never fucked a ten, but one night, I fucked five twos. :D :D "

Hahaha well you're surely older than me so I guess I'll have to obey. But no thanks for the rental offer, I like a challenge but, going after the Rabbit, Thanks but no thanks... the girls will be dead already by the time I start with them.

Shit, I'd rather not even look at 5 twos ;)

Member #3428

10-10-09, 07:36

shit, i'd rather not even look at 5 twos ;)

hum... ok.... thinking about this on a serious note, when i have multiples in bed i can not remember spending too much time looking at or worrying about any of their faces. with one girl or two yeah of course i like pretty girls.

i mean if you have three or four girls naked in bed doing things that probably are listed as illegal (definitely immoral) in many countries, i doubt they are the girls we plan on marrying or taking out to clubs or to siam niramit or such.

recently i do remember waking up and looking at 3 girls. one girls hair was messed all over her face and i was thinking, my god she is not pretty in the morning, then i looked down her body and i remembered what i enjoyed about her so i dove back in... :d

kind of like the disagreement over nice. she is the first girl i would call at tulip to join me and another girl. she has a good personality and where she excels at is her performance with other girls (don't get me wrong she is great with just a guy also). but if she has her face buried between another girls legs while i'm taking her from behind why the hell would i care what her face looked like?

isn't this the reason many girls work at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? they can suck but their faces suck :d

yeah i know i can be just a wh@re at times.... but who was the philosopher come on frenchy you gotta know him???

Lakeside

10-10-09, 07:54

Any comments about the pros and cons of using Date In Asia?

Are most of the girls who post there freelancers looking for business? Or are most of them really looking for a boyfriend?

I sent messages to a couple hotties and the positive responses seems a little too good to be true. I'm meeting one tonight and another tomorrow. Any advice? Warnings? Suggestions? Your personal experiences?

Thanks!Girls on DIA are mainly looking for serious partnerships unless they indicate something different in their profile. It is just a trial and error thing. Beeing clear upfront in your messages will help to find the ones who are matching your expectations and to avoid disappointment about the outcome of the date. The DIA bedding rate for me is >50% so I would say it is not to bad.

Mouse1

10-10-09, 07:59

Thanks for saying it, Canyon. Artful's comment is the first thing I've read in the forum that really made me angry. I know Nice and like her, in the interest of full disclosure, and ... enough said. ~TTGCool. Welcome to the Nice fan club :)

Hope someone can help me though... I had a slight argument with her recently and I will only be forgiven if I remember her birthday. I have a feeling it is around about now, but may be wrong. Anyone know it?

Wendella

10-10-09, 09:19

To Giotto,

I can understand your wanting to encourage the postings, and can appreciate that it's not pressure to give your place positive word on the forum. Still, that does seem to be the end real effect, often at least, if not usually. To me it's not a clear cut case of being an abuse, people have the right to encourage good word about their businesses, in democracies at least, but it seems to strike that chord in some here. Those guys obviously go way too far in their reactions to it. Shrill, irresponsible, out of control. But that's the net. To be expected. So... I guess you have to take the bad with the good. As long as you encourage people to post here, a lot of those are going to interpret that as a hint to post here about positive experiences at LL, and a lot of people here are going to interpret that as part of a marketing campaign. Doesn't seem to be any way out of this loop, probably not even if you did stop that policy. Guess you just have to take your lumps. Or be vigilant in your damage control. I don't foresee it stopping.

M P Lurker

10-10-09, 11:07

Thanks for saying it, Canyon. Artful's comment is the first thing I've read in the forum that really made me angry. I know Nice and like her, in the interest of full disclosure, and ... enough said. ~TTG
Nice would be a priority choice for me too, given retirement of a previous favourite, as I really like her kooky fun ("dting dtawng") personality.

"dting dtawng" is not a negative thing to describe a Thai girl contrary to what some think. To me it means weird and just a little bit crazy in a fun way.

Artful

10-10-09, 11:22

Am I being 'judgemental' or 'expressing an opinion'? I think the latter.

I'm a 6, Nice is a 3, AND she got paid, with a good tip, so I think she came out well from the encounter. Although judging by some of your tastes, I may well be a 10 to some of you out there :-P

No-one should be offended by opinion of Nice because it is, after all, only an opinion and, you're absolutely right, to others she may well be higher than a 3.

Re: Akane. From reading other boards, CBJs and no FS ARE the norm in Akane Fashion but if it that were different there it may well be a regular haunt of mine because otherwise it's got a lot going for it. Maybe I'll give it another go.

Well, that's a "nice" thing to say!

How do you think it goes for these girls? you think their dream was to have a fat, sweaty ugly man lay and rub on top of them, force them to get a blowjob and then shove their dicks inside them and force them? add to this lack of hygiene, strong Body Odor.... I'm sure they love it!

Look in the mirror before being so judgemental

M P Lurker

10-10-09, 11:24

"I never fucked a ten, but one night, I fucked five twos. :D :D "
I did have a ten once (a Farang). Had to be real patient to get to her as I wasn't the only guy around. Was a heavenly session while it lasted but the down side is that it was only once and caused me to miss her for years, and was difficult for anyone else to measure up to her standard of beauty, fun, etc.

Face 10, body 10 (including wonderful C cups), sex fantastic, and only fault I could pick was she seemed hyper active (now that wouldn't bother you I'm sure). The session was good enough that on the next day (her last day in the area) when she finally showed up and spotted me, she said in her very limited English with open arms: "Cindy is here for you". I unfortunately could not take her up on the offer due to earlier eating bad prawns and was about to need to be stationed in a toilet. That was true bad luck!

Minuteman

10-10-09, 11:31

I can't speak for the rest of Asia, but I have had fantastic success getting freebies from dateinasia.com, a totally free internet dating site. I'm sure there are some semi-pros on the site, but I've nailed 2 very sexy Bangkok girls from this site.

Best of all, they were first date fucks. And really good fucks at that.

Anybody have any good (or bad) experience with dateinasia.com? Or advice on how to maximize its effectiveness? In particular, I'd like to hear what kind of opening lines get the best response. Thanks.

LittleBigMan

10-10-09, 13:08

Well, that's a "nice" thing to say!

How do you think it goes for these girls? you think their dream was to have a fat, sweaty ugly man lay and rub on top of them, force them to get a blowjob and then shove their dicks inside them and force them? add to this lack of hygiene, strong Body Odor.... I'm sure they love it!

Look in the mirror before being so judgemental

Well said NicFrenchy!

Artful, Yes certainly you have a right to your opinion personally although this is a sex website very few have seen the word ugly on this board not even when they are writing about the girls on Beach Rd. in Pattaya. As you have a right to your opinions you should also be open and acceptable to others criticizing you when they disagreed with you since you brought up the topic of looks. When it comes to this subject which is so vast it certainly going to bring up a lenghty conversation to agree or not to agree.

I have been with Nice, and I found her to have a certain quality about her not only in her looks but her personality which adds to my enjoyment being with her. To me she has a Fireplug body and gives me Fire in the sheets.

See sometimes like NicFrenchy said look in the mirror! If we were all so perfect in every aspect WTF, are we doing at Tulip. The problem with Thailand is after a while here, some of us, like you start to believe the B.S the girls on the streets are feeding us " Handsome Man " it's a joke fellas!
Ugly is good in my book! Butt Ugly is worse, but there are some that think that is good too!

See you might think you are a 6, but there are people who think a 6 = U.G.L.Y. The proper phased to use on this board is " she is not my type "

LBM

Mouse1

10-10-09, 14:18

The proper phased to use on this board is " she is not my type " Agreed. Although it grates to say it, Artful has a right to express his opinion on a girl's appearance (whether she is a stunner or not), but I would certainly prefer more moderate language. Ugly is an unpleasant word, particularly in the context we are dealing with, and can have a damaging effect on the girl's prospects. Personally I think he is wrong in this case, and there are enough other (subjective) opinions to confirm my view, or at least to agree that we shouldn't use that word about specific individuals.

Artful

10-10-09, 15:14

Ok ok, I retract ugly, but I'm sticking with 3/10. I do think my assessment is valuable on this board, particularly for Tulip girls. A newbie would read the reviews of Tulip and, *** IMHO ***, not get a true perspective on the quality of girls there.

Anyway, enough navel gazing.

Agreed. Although it grates to say it, Artful has a right to express his opinion on a girl's appearance (whether she is a stunner or not), but I would certainly prefer more moderate language. Ugly is an unpleasant word, particularly in the context we are dealing with, and can have a damaging effect on the girl's prospects. Personally I think he is wrong in this case, and there are enough other (subjective) opinions to confirm my view, or at least to agree that we shouldn't use that word about specific individuals.

Dreams

10-10-09, 15:18

Ok ok, I retract ugly, but I'm sticking with 3/10. I do think my assessment is valuable on this board, particularly for Tulip girls. A newbie would read the reviews of Tulip and, *** IMHO ***, not get a true perspective on the quality of girls there.

Anyway, enough navel gazing.
....But everytime a guy writes a damning report which appears to me unfair, I feel the need to actually test the object of his demeaning.. That's how I can only thank The Pro for pointing out LL to me, and now Artful for pointing out to me Nice, whom I will certainly book when i go next. Thanks, guys.

Amjeck

10-10-09, 17:55

The DIA bedding rate for me is >50% so I would say it is not to bad.
What age group? Girls from BKK?

Csun213

10-10-09, 18:10

I have found out when I first see a lady, I would judge her purely by her looks. I have rated some girls pretty low when I first met them however as I get to know them more and more, their rating would go up.

I had one girl in China that was very plain but have a great body, personality and service. She gotten better looking in my eyes as time went on. Now when I get to China, I would have to book her a couple of days in advance because she was so popular with all her customers. But all good things must come to an end as she has gotten married to one of her customer and is no longer available. Now I am sad.

That being said, how many of you guys have picked a beautiful girl for the night with bad attitude and service. I bet you couldn't wait to get rid of her and then thought, what did I ever see in that girl?

Traveler1234

10-10-09, 18:22

Ok ok, I retract ugly, but I'm sticking with 3/10. I do think my assessment is valuable on this board, particularly for Tulip girls.

Good job Art. You're absolutely right, the majority of Tulips' are below 5 in looks but 8+ in service. It's like their 'rooms', not a place to brag about but sufficient for two hrs shagging.

Minuteman

10-10-09, 19:12

I would have to agree with the 50% score percentage with a couple of clarifications.

1. The "free' sex often costs as much if not more than the P4P sex. After buying them drinks, food, a movie, and paying for the friend they are very likely to bring along....it often adds up to more than if you just bought a bar girl.

That doesn't discourage me though. I enjoy the hunt and conquest.

2. I ask out waitresses and sales clerks all the time. I'd say about 25% to 33% agree to a date. Remember, I'm 50 and the girls I ask out are usually over 25 but under 35 and always 8s, 9s, and 10s. I'd like to bang some sub-25 year old chicks, but I don't get a lot of response from them.

3. I target the same age group in dateinasia.com

4. I would say that regardless of the source of the date, about 25% screw me on the very first date. I'd say another 25% screw me on the 2nd date. I don't do the other 50%. I completely give up on a women if she doesn't screw me by the 2nd date. I'm not looking for a wife....I just want a piece of ass.

My point is simple. Freebies are fun and easy. And if you get a good one, you can milk her for free sex every time you're back in town.

Opebo

10-10-09, 20:44

The girls at Tulip are trained to a very high standard. You will consistently receive excellent service here. I am an experienced monger and I have not received the level of service and the consistentcy that Tulip offers anywhere else in the world. Really.
BUT, and it doesn't get mentioned nearly enough on this board, the girls are ugly. Really. 3s and 4s in my opnion...

I've gone there quite a number of times and have had pleasing service, but I would hardly say the best. Service is somewhat better at Eden or Devil's Den, and all three are fairly consistent. And I get better service than any of those places from freelancers all the time.

As for appearance, while Tulip's girls are not beauties, they're a lot better than you describe. From your report it sounds like you have a strong preference for Latinas. Many guys who prefer Latin America don't like Thailand much. Conversely I must admit that I don't find many of the girls in the photo sections of the Latin American threads attractive.

For guys who like Asian girls and aren't extremely picky about youth and perfection, some of the Tulip girls should be adequate.

Thank you however for the excellent and informative report.

Member #4285

10-10-09, 22:06

I'd say the chances are really high of you getting laid. I have had great success with non WG (as you call them).

Just make sure you treat her nice (restaurant, movie, drinks...) you can also go and play some games with her, I know it's a little dumb for a first date but...somehow, the "fun" factor that gaming brings has been for me a very good "panties opener".

If she's having fun with you, then she will follow you to your hotel room to have a drink (read: sex).

So, I wrote before that this P4P game makes us think we can have who ever we want, and when I wrote this I was thinking on the girl that work in the restaurant. Its a 1000 Bath/night hotel. I checked out from LL (thanks Giotto for all talking) to get a flight to the south, but when no flight fit me (wallet) I decided to stay one-two more nights in a cheap hotel and now I ended up here. So at the breakfast (including) first morning I saw her and wrote my report about how we start think every lady is a go. Anyway, I had to stay one more night just to ask her out and see how it will end. She sad yes as I reported in an another report and we went out after her work.

We went to Siam shopingcenter and I bought myself new shoes. I tryed to get something to her but she did not want anything. We eat dinner and went to see a movie in one of the Siam towers. We could chose between VIP 500 bath tickets or an onather salon for 120 bath/ticket. When 500 bath is the normal pay in my country for normal seats I wanted to try the VIP salon. She tought it was to much but I did not listen (hehe) and we went for the VIP. Wow, what a cinema!! But only farangs with Thaigirls heh..

Anyway, shes holdning my hand and I ofcourse get a boner. Everything is fine it feels like im starting to fall in love. Then we go to a bar at for some drinks, make out but not real DFK but light DFK. Dont know if she just want to take it cool or its not the Thaiway to do this. She's divorced and we talk about our lives. Then.. boom.. she has a baby from her X-marriage on 4 years. Shes 25 btw. She really looks great and are sweet and not like a bargirl (not like that I have so much experiance about them but anyway it feels diffrent). So, Im like hm, what to do now. I say: okey, I did not expect this why did you not tell before when we talk at the dinner over our lives? She told me about almost everything beside her doughter. But I calm myself down and say: hey, im proud over you, you work hard in the restaurant and have to support your mother and child. She say like, now you think im a bad girl. Then I say (maybe foolish): every girl here in this bar that go with a farang they do that to surrviev and almost in every case ther is a child and family involved. I dont judge them, its just a way to survive. What I meant was that she should not feel bad about that she is a lonely mother without a suporting man and I would not judge her for that. Maybe a bad compere..

Then she starts to cry. Tears falling and im like damn. What did I say! She says again when I ask whats wrong: you think im a bad girl.

I calm her down and we kiss again and so on and then we take a taxi to her home were 5 others sleep and ofcourse have to wake up and come down and see on the farang. I mean, I would never live like they lived but I guess its the sad poor way to survive.

She has worked in a hotel in Pattaya and sad that she never been with a farang before me. I sad, If you ever ever lie to me I walk away in one second and will not turn my head back. I will be gone in 2 seconds. Maybe hard to say but I just wanted to make clear that I will not accept any lies and cover ups and that I will never lie to her.

A classic farang fall in love and poor girl takes advantage? I dont know, I just wanted to post this to you old farts that know, almost everything about Thailadys.

She took some medic-pills when we sat at the bar. She sad that it was against sleepover and that she should woke in time and dont loke like a train had run over her in the morning. I dont know, I tried to read the name but it was to damn long. It feelt strange, but she is a very sweet girl. I dont know.

I took a cab home and we will go out tonight again. No sex btw, and no problem with that. I can wait =)

Any thoughts? Just bring em to me.

(sorry for bad english, im to tierd and drunk to fix it, cheers!)

Member #4698

10-10-09, 22:34

Recently there has been some conversation about good looking girls and not so good looking girls. Specifically in reference to the 3-4 pt level out of Tulip. Some guys really dig Tulip and the personal service they find there. Others wouldn’t be caught dead in the place. It’s a matter of personal preference and taste. Some guys like Latinas, others like Asian babes. And some prefer young girls while others prefer more mature women. Large tits - small tits. Yada, yada, yada.

I use a 3 pt scale. It is instinctual and works on all women. Be they Asian, European, Latina or African; working girls or amateurs; young or old; rich or poor. You can tell where a girl belongs on your personal 3 pt scale in a split second.

Category 1 is a very rare category. It is the knockout “take your breath away” level - equal to a 9.5 to 10 on the 10 pt scale. It is the goddess level and very few women (IMHO) fall into this category. Some say this category is a myth. No, girls to whom I am referring actually exist, but in my entire life I have had sex with only a few of these women. And of course a goddess eats, drinks, farts, has bad morning breath, lies, cheats, and says boring things just like the rest of humanity.

Category 2 is a large level – many girls fall into this. It is the “I would fuck her – I’d like to fuck her” category equal to a 5 to 8.5 on the 10 pt scale. One brief glance at a girl can be coming out of an elevator as I am going in, and I know if the girl is in this category.

Category 3 is also a large category – many girls are in this one. It is the “I don’t think so” category equal to everything below a 5 on the 1 to 10 scale.

Now here is the funny thing; a category 3 girl can become a category 2 girl if she is nice and you like her after you get to know her. Suddenly you notice she has a shapely ass or pleasing tits. These girls can give you great sex. This has happened to me a many times.

Another interesting fact is category 1 and category 2 girls can drop down to category 3 if they are bitches, or boring, or bad in bed, or require too much maintenance. ect. This happens quite a lot too.

So I guess my mama was right; “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” and also “beauty is only skin deep”. But hell, I am superficial mother***er and all else being equal, I prefer them pretty.

P.S. I can’t say I don’t dig Latinas or European girls because I do, but for me personally, I prefer the Asian girls. They just blow me away. And I can’t say I don’t get turned on by girls with big breasts, but I prefer girls with more proportioned chests. And finally, I can’t say I won’t go for a more mature women, because once in a while I will have sex with a women in her 40’s, but most of the time I like them young and under 24.

Life is ‘a moveable feast’. Ernest Hemingway.

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Amjeck

10-10-09, 22:54

She's divorced.. she has a baby from her X-marriage on 4 years.
Then she starts to cry.
She has worked in a hotel in Pattaya
She took some medic-pills when we sat at the bar.

Any thoughts? Just bring em to me.

Drop her like a bad habit and move on. There's far better fish in the sea!

Kiwi 69

10-11-09, 00:24

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Csun123,

Hell you want to end up like Michael Jackson? Can't sleep! Have a glass of red wine and a cold tablet! You want to get a blood clot on your leg from sleeping the whole trip while in a Airplane.

A top London teaching hospital (I can hear people saying "That's an oxymoron!") that has done DVT research for the WHO, have come up with a formulation by a cardiovascular surgeon of pycnogenol, extracted from pine bark, and ginger root which has shown in clinical trials to promote circulation to the extremities (not an alternative for vit V & C !) and reduce travel sickness.

The product is called Zinopin, and is available from high- street pharmacies (Boots, Lloyds etc)

NicFrenchy

10-11-09, 00:50

Drop her like a bad habit and move on. There's far better fish in the sea!

I'm sorry but, I could not have said it better!

don't walk away..... RUN

(Well, that's unless you want to take care of a baby that's not yours...)

Let me tell you what the next steps are:

You will have sex with her before you leave for Farangland, you will stay in touch with her via email... (don't give your phone#, and create a special email address for girls... ), after a few weeks of "I miss you so much..", her family will put pressure on her:

- Brother wants a new motorcycle... ask the farang
- Daddy wants a new TV... ask the farang
- Mummy needs a new liver... ask the farang
- Daughter needs money for school... ask the farang

But you can't blame them... in asia, the person who has money is supposed to support the Family, you are a white boy= you are rich.

Long Story short: Drop her.

Member #3428

10-11-09, 01:32

Kid... I'm still not sold if you are a troll or not :D :D as you have hit all the negatives or worse case scenerios in one trip. We gotta meet in PI shortly that is for damn sure. I can really see you as some senior poster here who is having a shit load of fun with us for some reason.

Brother wants a new motorcycle... ask the farang
- Daddy wants a new TV... ask the farang
- Mummy needs a new liver... ask the farang
- Daughter needs money for school... ask the farang

But this one is different... she is not like the rest of the girls :D

This morning I woke up to...

"Brother in accident, both legs broken and one arm broken, in ICU room was hoping to go visit him but had motor bike accident myself today and hurt knee. Will go to temple then home to go home. Oh I only have XXXX baht in the bank. Still love you and miss you"

"Sister is take computer and go home now can not chat you tee rak. Hope I can get computer some day so can chat to you as I miss you mak mak"

"Darling, miss you so much but home here have no money, hard to pay for internet time when daughter need school and momma and papa work so hard. wait you come back and take care me na"

That is just a few of them... But these girls love me long time and only me :)

Frenchy... why only one email account? Have multiple ones as if you are with a girl and she wants you to open it up then you can open up one or so...

Any thoughts? Just bring em to me.

Thai ladies (and Filipina's) can cry on demand. It is most likely this is a game that is played as described by Nic. If you are in a relationship with a thai girl you marry the family not just the girl. And if you are a farang and you are "date" her then you are dating the entire family also and expected to support them.

So... Run or Play the game, get sex out of her, enjoy her, if she asks for things just say NO. You started the game off wrong by offering to buy her items at Siam. Of course she said NO, she is "good thai girl" but wait, give it some time, not today but if you continue with her expect the figures and requests to go up up up up...

Any lady that works or lives in BKK (and especially the girls that work in Pattaya) know if they are scene with a farang it is assumed by many others that they are short time girls or were short time girls. Regular thai girls did NOT hold my hand on our first meeting and we surely never DFK. I have kind of found that many thai girls who never went with farang do not know how to DFK or such. So her to hold your hand and DFK leads me to believe she has some history.

As someone posted most of my first encounters with real thai non p4p ladies they had a friend or family with them. And we sure as heck did not go to a bar with night life. Just my POV... go in with your eyes open, you are gonna support the entire family and that means neighbors and cousins... And if this is the case and you got that kind of money then adopt me.

Go look at Living in Thai thread what OAH who has been around a long arse time... he just had the classic scenerio done and I've had it done to me a few times. But it's just so damn much fun and what is a few baht.... It's when it gets to the motorbike, home, and other issues that you get really screwed.

And don't be like others and father a damn child while you are there or you can be completely screwed. You walking around with a damn boner cuz you held her hand had me laughing my arse off... Thank you mate.

LittleBigMan

10-11-09, 02:00

Kid,

I know it is temping! you want it bad? You said bring it on! and the negative is coming and you still want it bad? Everything Amjeck, NicFrenchy and Tansak KTV said is hard, but you still want it bad!

So hit that pussy before you leave ( of course with a condom ) and follow the Dreams advice, the more negative it gets the more you want to find out for yourself! Otherwise how are you going to learn and go from a Kid to a Man, you can't expect Tansak to teach you everything! You might not ever get to PHI!

LBM

The Pro

10-11-09, 02:24

Jackson - can you start a "I have fallen for a Thai girl - what's the signs/what should I do" thread.

We can then keep all this nonsense off of "Bangkok Reports" which is supposed to be about mongering in Bangkok.

This is not the "problems" page of a newspaper, so a dedicated thread for discussion of "Tourist falls for Thai girl" rubbish would be a very good move.

Monopoly

10-11-09, 03:01

Can anyone name a few oily massage places with room with attached showers / baths?

Don't care too much for places with showers/baths down the hall.

Thanks

Member #4285

10-11-09, 03:57

Thanks for all feedback! Without this board I probebly would have a wife now. And a child. What an Asian trip that would be huh? I mean, you old ones that been trough all this before must be the right ones to listen to so I play the game, with eyes open. But I cant just drop her and run for my life. She's to hot (imo) for that! In her garage/apartment were they lived a foto of a wedding on an young farang and an young thailady was up on the wall. It was her sister. So, Im not even the first farang in the family..

As KTV wrote about kissing on first date I feel the same. I mean, im not Brad Pit! Hold hand and kiss first date and kiss with opend eyes? (the fact is I asked her (heh) and she sad she wanted to look at me..)

She did not want me to go back to the bars (soi 8) after I left her at home because ther were to many ladies that wanted me she sad. Well, thats true!! But she looked at them and thought they were sexy (no go go bar just a bar on soi 8). I asked, you like girls too? and she just smiled, but then sad: I like men.

So, sober and with my head clear and without boner I think I were in love yeasterday. Today, I maybe should look for some flights insteed. So once again, thaks everyone for all the feedback. I read all twice. Its so damn hard to see the truth when you are blinded by the beauty.

But, with her looks she could easy work as a BG and get the 6000 bath she gets from her work in one month just in 2-3 days. So, I hold my door open just for that she work hard in the restaurant and not in a bar. And she like books, we went in to a bookstore in Siam for a look. I say thats a good sign. Let us see what happends..

One more thing, the movie we saw yeasterday (she picked it) were called: "The Ugly Truth"....