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Why were there so many big groups of guys last night in Soi Cowboy?
there was one group with green t-shirts that said tart or something
another group with plain white t-shirts with marker writing on them
another group with some kind of mexican looking costumes on
at one point I was in Suzy Wong's and 2 of the groups were in there and it was just awful -- they turned it into a frathouse, and honestly the guys seemed more into each other than the girls
in Wong's the girls weren't too friendly. one girl in particular I had my eye on but she snubbed me. luckily the chubby girl didn't bother me. maybe she's forgotten me.
also went to Shark and the girls were very average looking. there was only 1 I actually wanted to sleep with. the fact that the rest of them were charging money was a bit of an insult.
went to Rio and the second I walked in I got mauled by a girl I took home a month ago. I thought maybe she'd forgotten me or she'd just say hello, but she came over and wouldn't leave my side. was pretty annoying since there were some other cute girls there I wanted to try.
finally went to Climax and ended up taking home a freelancer around 4AM. she was delightful. too many guys in Climax, not enough girls. Pickings were slim
For some reason about half the time when I go to Soi Cowboy a girl I like will either snub me or end up with another guy and if it happens in a couple places I'll go into some mental spiral and get in a really negative mood and just end up dwelling on it and making myself miserable.
I'm sure it's some weird hangup, but it doesn't usually happen when I go to Nana. I'm actually kind of scared of going to Cowboy because I think I'll get in a bad mood.
Redfield10
02-21-10, 11:47
You have to use the tactic that those use who have phobias use to break the pattern.
Youi have to sort of do the opposite of what you'd expect. Go in. Not care. Have fun. Don't even plan on being with a girl. And more than likely it will happen. That should break the cycle.
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For some reason about half the time when I go to Soi Cowboy a girl I like will either snub me or end up with another guy and if it happens in a couple places I'll go into some mental spiral and get in a really negative mood and just end up dwelling on it and making myself miserable.
I'm sure it's some weird hangup, but it doesn't usually happen when I go to Nana. I'm actually kind of scared of going to Cowboy because I think I'll get in a bad mood.
Thai Ydiver
02-21-10, 14:50
Try a laundry where the locals go, they can be found in almost every Soi.Make sure they know how to wash, more that often they use gray water and you finish up with smelly clothes, you get what you pay for..
Question:
If you have a friend visiting BKK for the first time, which 2 places would you take him to first and why?What will make him have the most fun? Eye candy, shows, atmosphere, barfining hot girls?
I'd say Baccara and Shark but that's b/c I'm all about the eye candy. I can see how some guys ITT don't bother with these places though. Pushy waitresses, often crowded, girls look pretty lifeless dancing on stage.
Just posted this on another thread but can't hurt to post it here under the BKK thread just in case someone could have helpful info.
Had an accident recently that resulted in having my 2 back molars taken out (one above and one below). Dentist recommended that I should get implants to replace my missing 2 teeth instead of the usual bridges.
Problem is my dental insurance with my job really sucks and don't pay for bridges or implants. Dentist said the implants will cost over $2500-3000 for EACH tooth!
I've heard BKK had good dental hospitals that may rival the ones at home at a much lower price even with the cost of RT airfare and hotel cost. So thinking of traveling to BKK to have the work done and having a monger vacation while I'm there.
1) what is the best dental hospital in BKK or best dentist (office) for implants in BKK
2) any idea what an implant will cost
3) if I decide to do it in BKK, how would I get information about booking an appointment and finding out the final cost.
4) how many days would I need to stay in BKK for the procedure.
Anyone with prior experience or knowledge about implants or surgical dental procedures or recommendations can PM me or post info so I could get started. Hate not being able to chew my food well.
Thanks
SharkJust had one tooth implant done last week at Thantakit in BKK (check their website thantakit. Com). A bit pricier than the average (looking at $2000US roughly per tooth) but they were the original pioneers on dental implant in Thailand.
And so far so good but need to come back in 4-5 months to put in permanent crown(a good excuse for more mongering!).
However now I have found a very good dentist in Philippines. Which is much cheaper and very reliable. So my future dental work will be done in the Philippines.
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Hmm, never thought of giving Philly a try. If you can't PM me, perhaps you can tell me where in Philly I can find the reliable dentist you used and contact info.
Thanks
Shark
Juicyclamlover
02-23-10, 06:50
I just had dental inplant completed in Bangkok. This was at Asavant Dental off of sukumvit.
Very easy to get to and very professional. Seemed expensive but did not really keep track of the difference compared to USA dental work.
Maybe I saved some money but it was also time consuming.
The first part is the post that is drilled into your bone. This takes about six months healing and then you return for the second part.
With that there was some work that took seperate appointments with some time in between. Maybe one week.
I did lose track of all the details.
However now I have found a very good dentist in Philippines. Which is much cheaper and very reliable. So my future dental work will be done in the Philippines.
By the way I still feel numb where my inplant was completed.
The bone and tooth area do not feel the same as before but not a major problem.
I can add more information later if needed. The asavant dental has a web site and you can email and get estimates.
Compare to USA dentist or elsewhere. And shop around.
The dentist there are very very good. This may be a more expensive place in Bangkok so you can do it for less.I had a gold crown replacement done last year at the Bumrungrad, Soi 3, off Suk'vit in BKK and the service was superb. Cost was 18000 THB all in. Can't speak about implants costs but can highly recommend the professional way everything was handled, including the treatment.
Had to learn the hard way.
Anyway, I bring a new girl from Nana Parking Lot to the short-time room "Penthouse" Next, the girl and her Thai friend run into a taxi and escape with nobody stopping them or attempting to question them.
What really strikes me is how the Penthouse staff just let any random stranger into the ST rooms when a room is occupied??
If this girl is a regular at NPL you should try and get her picture and post it here. I'll pass it along to a bunch of guys who frequent the place and they can pass the word around on her. I've never heard of anything like this - steal sure - but try to sell your phone back to you? Crazy.
J Dougherty
02-24-10, 02:17
I almost can't believe I made it happened!
A couple of days back, I posted a request for some leads to getting a guy / gal to be involved in a threesome with me and gf (G). Didn't get any replies (not a popular topic, perhaps?), and was a bit dissapointed seeing as the trip was happening soon, and I was hoping to make something happen.
So, who would've imagined that it was G's resourcefulness that saved the day. We've always enjoyed sex on the rougher side, with me sometimes completely dominating her (spanking, long bj's, handcuffs, etc), and seeing that I was into these kind of games, she actually researched for BDSM clubs in BKK before the trip.
This is her first time in Bkk, so as part of her 'tour', I told her I'll take her to the RLD, something that Bangkok was famous for. I picked Patpong over NEP or Soi Cowboy - figured having shops around the area makes it a little less intimidating. None of the go-go bars elicit much of a reaction, I think mostly because the gals look like crap and are distinctly uninterested in doing anything but pose. That is until we walked past BarBar. She immediately commented that thats a bondage club. I feigned ignorance, and curiosity, and asked if she wanted to check it out. She agreed eagerly.
Ok, for those who havent been to BarBar before, this is how it works. There is a cover of THB 900 per person, which includes your first drink and a personalized show. The show is nothing to shout about, a brief lezzie performance (5-10 mins) with some domination, spanking, ropes, and candle wax. After that, you're free to sit around, and watch the shows being performed for the other patrons. Further drinks are THB 300 a piece though, so not exactly a cheap place to stay and indulge.
There are about 20 girls working, 10 being on duty while we were there. Quality wise, most are in the range of 4-5, late 20's, early 30's onwards. We were fortunate to have Tak performed for us (in a slave role) - she's the best looking of the bunch, slim and petite, I'd guess about 26 years old. As part of the show, she came over and started licking up my gf's leg, starting from her ankle all the way to her thighs. It turned me on instantly, seeing another woman running her tongue over G's smooth, pale skin.
We sat around for another 30 mins or so, watching other performances while I gradually steered the conversation towards participating. To cut a long story short, we finally took Tak up to one of the private rooms upstairs. As we were walking upstairs, my heart was beating so fast - I've had threesomes before, but never with a serious girlfriend, and I've always had fantasies of sharing her with others. For some reason, the fantasy is particularly acute when it comes to G - perhaps its the fact that she's the typical 'hot chick' - young, blue-eyed blond, part time model - and the feeling of having enough control over such a desirable woman, that I could give her out to others if I wanted to gives me such a rush.
When we got into the room, Tak stepped out briefly to get some toys, and I started making out with my gal. By the time Tak was back, I had G in her undies, and she immediately joined the fun by removing G's bra and sucking on her nipples. We went in for a shower next, and thats when G had her pussy eaten out by a woman for the first time. The look on her face was indescribable. We yanked her out from the bathroom, and while Tak tied G's wrist to the wall, I slapped her breasts and told her she was going to be our **** to be used and abused for the next few hours. Tak then went down on her knees and ate G out furiously, before taking a large black dildo and working it in and out of my gal's sopping wet ****. By this time, G was moaning in bliss.
My rock-hard cock demanded attention and couldnt wait anymore, so we unchained G from the wall (while still keeping her wrist tied), put her on her knees on a bench, and ram my cock into her mouth while Tak pounded from behind with a strap on. I could hear her moaning around my erection, while her body was rocked back and forth between the 2 of us. To add to her degradation, I facefucked her non stop for a good 15 mins, before pulling her up by the hair and told her i want to see her mouth busy on another ****. She nodded, her eyes half open in ecstacy, and we placed her, on her knees, on the bed. Tak and I switched position, and thats when my gal ate her first pussy. I don't think I'll ever forget the sight of this sweet, beautiful blonde being 'forced' to pleasure a Thai pro.
It was a whirlwind after that. I pulled out and had G licked her own juices off my cock before placing her on her back and fucking her again while Tak sat on her face. After a while, I pulled both of them on their knees, and Tak and my gf took turns sucking me off, and making out with each other. After a while, I was making out with Tak while G continued alternating between BJ and eating Tak out. Then, it was back to more fucking until I could hold it in no longer, and pulled out and came in G's mouth. She swallowed every single drop of it, eventhough I knew she hated the taste of cum.
It was such an incredible experience. I knew G had a kinkier side to her, but she's really a good girl in her everyday behaviour, and I didnt think she'd go so deep so quickly. Tak was the perfect companion for her first time - she knew what to do and kept everything smooth and natural. I can see many more threesomes ahead, as talking to G after confirmed that she is definitely bi-sexual and would love to do this again.
Just writing this and recalling the memory has given me a raging hard on. I'll write more later about our 2nd threesome on the following day, this time MMF.
Cheers!
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Stayed in Chinatown at White Orchid Hotel on Yaowaraj Road. Good value and only about a block from the local full service massage parlor.
It's located in an ally on the right side of the Shanghai Mansion Hotel. If you go at night, look for the Chistmas lights in the ally. At the entrance of Texas, there may be local working girls, going for 500b plus another 200b for short time room/tips etc. Note: Not affiliated with Texas Massage.
As you follow the Texas Massage signs you will pass a bar and a couple of pool tables. Great place for a few guys to meet, drink, shoot pool and get laid.
The fishtank has only about 3/4 girls in the afternoon and maybe 7/8 in the evening. Prices start at 1500b for 1 1/2 hr. Always a young spinner featured by the entrance for 1800b.
I had Lek (from Chiang Rai), about 19, 4'10" 80 lbs. Creamy skin, great body and good performer. She gave me a full body wash in a big tub inside the room. Good lighting, large bed and mirror. Good covered BJ and all positions. No anal.
Good alternative for the obscene prices in Sukhumwit, only a 100b taxi ride away.
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I almost can't believe I made it happened!
A couple of days back, I posted a request for some leads to getting a guy / gal to be involved in a threesome with me and gf (G). Didn't get any replies (not a popular topic, perhaps?), and was a bit dissapointed seeing as the trip was happening soon, and I was hoping to make something happen.
So, who would've imagined that it was G's resourcefulness that saved the day. We've always enjoyed sex on the rougher side, with me sometimes completely dominating her (spanking, long bj's, handcuffs, etc), and seeing that I was into these kind of games, she actually researched for BDSM clubs in BKK before the trip.
This is her first time in Bkk, so as part of her 'tour', I told her I'll take her to the RLD, something that Bangkok was famous for. I picked Patpong over NEP or Soi Cowboy - figured having shops around the area makes it a little less intimidating. None of the go-go bars elicit much of a reaction, I think mostly because the gals look like crap and are distinctly uninterested in doing anything but pose. That is until we walked past BarBar. She immediately commented that thats a bondage club. I feigned ignorance, and curiosity, and asked if she wanted to check it out. She agreed eagerly.
Ok, for those who havent been to BarBar before, this is how it works. There is a cover of THB 900 per person, which includes your first drink and a personalized show. The show is nothing to shout about, a brief lezzie performance (5-10 mins) with some domination, spanking, ropes, and candle wax. After that, you're free to sit around, and watch the shows being performed for the other patrons. Further drinks are THB 300 a piece though, so not exactly a cheap place to stay and indulge.
There are about 20 girls working, 10 being on duty while we were there. Quality wise, most are in the range of 4-5, late 20's, early 30's onwards. We were fortunate to have Tak performed for us (in a slave role) - she's the best looking of the bunch, slim and petite, I'd guess about 26 years old. As part of the show, she came over and started licking up my gf's leg, starting from her ankle all the way to her thighs. It turned me on instantly, seeing another woman running her tongue over G's smooth, pale skin.
We sat around for another 30 mins or so, watching other performances while I gradually steered the conversation towards participating. To cut a long story short, we finally took Tak up to one of the private rooms upstairs. As we were walking upstairs, my heart was beating so fast - I've had threesomes before, but never with a serious girlfriend, and I've always had fantasies of sharing her with others. For some reason, the fantasy is particularly acute when it comes to G - perhaps its the fact that she's the typical 'hot chick' - young, blue-eyed blond, part time model - and the feeling of having enough control over such a desirable woman, that I could give her out to others if I wanted to gives me such a rush.
When we got into the room, Tak stepped out briefly to get some toys, and I started making out with my gal. By the time Tak was back, I had G in her undies, and she immediately joined the fun by removing G's bra and sucking on her nipples. We went in for a shower next, and thats when G had her pussy eaten out by a woman for the first time. The look on her face was indescribable. We yanked her out from the bathroom, and while Tak tied G's wrist to the wall, I slapped her breasts and told her she was going to be our **** to be used and abused for the next few hours. Tak then went down on her knees and ate G out furiously, before taking a large black dildo and working it in and out of my gal's sopping wet ****. By this time, G was moaning in bliss.
My rock-hard cock demanded attention and couldnt wait anymore, so we unchained G from the wall (while still keeping her wrist tied), put her on her knees on a bench, and ram my cock into her mouth while Tak pounded from behind with a strap on. I could hear her moaning around my erection, while her body was rocked back and forth between the 2 of us. To add to her degradation, I facefucked her non stop for a good 15 mins, before pulling her up by the hair and told her i want to see her mouth busy on another ****. She nodded, her eyes half open in ecstacy, and we placed her, on her knees, on the bed. Tak and I switched position, and thats when my gal ate her first pussy. I don't think I'll ever forget the sight of this sweet, beautiful blonde being 'forced' to pleasure a Thai pro.
It was a whirlwind after that. I pulled out and had G licked her own juices off my cock before placing her on her back and fucking her again while Tak sat on her face. After a while, I pulled both of them on their knees, and Tak and my gf took turns sucking me off, and making out with each other. After a while, I was making out with Tak while G continued alternating between BJ and eating Tak out. Then, it was back to more fucking until I could hold it in no longer, and pulled out and came in G's mouth. She swallowed every single drop of it, eventhough I knew she hated the taste of cum.
It was such an incredible experience. I knew G had a kinkier side to her, but she's really a good girl in her everyday behaviour, and I didnt think she'd go so deep so quickly. Tak was the perfect companion for her first time - she knew what to do and kept everything smooth and natural. I can see many more threesomes ahead, as talking to G after confirmed that she is definitely bi-sexual and would love to do this again.
Just writing this and recalling the memory has given me a raging hard on. I'll write more later about our 2nd threesome on the following day, this time MMF.
Cheers!
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To my surprise I got a hard on from reading it. Well done.
You have to use the tactic that those use who have phobias use to break the pattern.
Youi have to sort of do the opposite of what you'd expect. Go in. Not care. Have fun. Don't even plan on being with a girl. And more than likely it will happen. That should break the cycle.Absolutely. I rarely plan anything these days. I tend to use the go-go bars as a warm-up act. Go there, watch a couple of shows, buy a few lady-drinks, cuddle a few girls... Then go for a stroll and see what happens. If all else fails there is Nana carpark. I plan to be tucked up in bed by midnight, and I usually am.
I meet her when she worked soi cowboy and she send me lots of web cam. Has anyone seen her or tell me where she works now? Would love to find her when I go back. She goes by Tata
Thanks
Just writing this and recalling the memory has given me a raging hard on. I'll write more later about our 2nd threesome on the following day, this time MMF.
Damn just reading it has given me a raging hard on. I now want to have a threesome with G and Tak! Cool story, can't wait to hear the rest.
Wow, I have been combing through the forum trying to plan a trip to the mongers captial but honestly don't know were to start. I am already planning for India for a short vacation (one week at most) but have been pointed to Thailand a number of times as the best P4P option hands down.
That said I hope no one is offend by a few questions:
When is the best time/month of year to book flights?
Which is the best city?
I am black (it is unfortunate to have to mention) what effect does that have?
I have been considering the TEFL travel and housing option but worry about heavy supervision anyone TOFTT?
My experience ranges from Tijuana, US and Southern Africa.
Please post or PM and I will share what I can to those interested in the places I have been.
Went to the Bossy Club for the first time.
1. If you are under 35. I think you will love it. If you are an old fart (in my 50's) like me, it may not be for you.
2. I'd say 95% of the crowd was below 35. Nonetheless, there was no shortage of freelancers that were willing to go home with me. I talked to 3 chicks and they all quoted me 3, 000 baht (to start).
3. This really is an after-hours club. I think it goes until 5. 00 AM.
4. Lots of white pussy. Russian I assume.
5. The music was that pulsating obnoxious techno music that I can't stand. The young chickies, however, seem to love it.
6. Make sure you are clear that you want to go to the Bossy Club. Not the Boss Club. Big difference.
Wow, I have been combing through the forum trying to plan a trip to the mongers captial but honestly don't know were to start. I am already planning for India for a short vacation (one week at most) but have been pointed to Thailand a number of times as the best P4P option hands down.
That said I hope no one is offend by a few questions:
When is the best time/month of year to book flights?
Which is the best city?
I am black (it is unfortunate to have to mention) what effect does that have?
I have been considering the TEFL travel and housing option but worry about heavy supervision anyone TOFTT?
My experience ranges from Tijuana, US and Southern Africa.
Please post or PM and I will share what I can to those interested in the places I have been.Best city depends on what you like? So many variations.
I was going to Thailand for three years and thought I was in heaven. I like Bangkok, Pattaya, phuket and chaing mai. I like adventure in travel, the beach and of course number one is pussy.
Now I live in Philippines, Angeles City. Love it here. The girls come here from everywhere.
Also I am close to subic and puerto galera. Love the ocean. I have four girls living with me.
Being Black, White, American, Foreginer or even local has its advantages and disadvantages.
In Philippines Black men are called Chocolate man. No racial thing. Just some girls will want and some do not. Just like some girls want Japanese or Korean and of course many want American guys of all races. (we have pesonaility and they have pussynality).
So many options of places to go and things to do? Depends on what you like.
In Thailand and Philippines the Police have extorted money from me simply because I am a foreigner, (white guy). Stop me driving because they can shake me down for money
Of course I pay and just think of it as a tax.
Keep researching and especially check the reports of distinction
Good information
I meet her when she worked soi cowboy and she send me lots of web cam. Has anyone seen her or tell me where she works now? Would love to find her when I go back. She goes by Tata
ThanksHot tits. I like that. Not sure i am into web cam? thanks for the mammories
[QUOTE=J Dougherty]I almost can't believe I made it happened!
A couple of days back, I posted a request for some leads to getting a guy / gal to be involved in a threesome with me and gf (G). Didn't get any replies (not a popular topic, perhaps?), and was a bit dissapointed seeing as the trip was happening soon, and I was hoping to make something happen.
Intimidating. None of the go-go bars elicit much of a reactionthere. Quality wise, most are in the range of 4-5, late 20's, early 30's onwards. We were fortunate to have Tak performed for us (in a slave role). She's the best looking of the bunch, slim and petite, I'd guess about 26 years old. As part of the show, she came over and started licking up my gf's leg, starting from her ankle all the way to her thighs. It turned me on instantly, seeing another woman running her tongue over G's smooth, pale skin.
I have filipina girlfriend. I take her to Thailand all the time with me.
Yes we love to have three somes and moresomes. They are great.
Mostly we get other girls to join, but I am open minded so I do let her have some threesomes and foursomes with guys.
It s all fun. We live in Philippines and sometimes have girls and guys and couples join in. We have three girls living with us so we have built in group sex when wanted. But one girl is shy and wants more privacy.
My girl really likes to have Thai girl join in. And also sometimes a guy or two.
Ha ha. I get plenty of pussy so I am not worried if she has some extra fun.
Originally Posted by Egy Monger
Had to learn the hard way.
Anyway, I bring a new girl from Nana Parking Lot to the short-time room "Penthouse" Next, the girl and her Thai friend run into a taxi and escape with nobody stopping them or attempting to question them.
What really strikes me is how the Penthouse staff just let any random stranger into the ST rooms when a room is occupied??
I am sure this is why at the Nana Hotel they photo copy all the girls id.
They do a very good job at keeping control over the guests. My bad expierence there was because i had some friends come and they took my friends wife id and photo copied and she was very unhappy when they told her she was a prostitute..
It seems they are either too strict or too easy in the area.. As with all of our expierences we have to be alert and take care of ourselves.
Nana Hotel is very strict about the girls and will report them to the police if they cause any problems and they will send copies of their pictures to other hotels and police.
Juicyclamlover
02-26-10, 05:26
BKK 2 nighter.
Checked into the Ibis Nana, Soi 4. As previously described, clean, close to the Nana Plaza action, Nana BTS and good value.
Went to Big Dogs for an afternoon gander and ended up BFing, ST 1500 THB, a lovely girl from Saraburi who I spotted as I walked in.
A nice GF 2 hours elapsed with the Saraburi lovely, plenty of FK and mutual groping followed by a nice BBBJ + CIM. An interval massage and then a good old hump in mish, cowgirl and a finale of doggie.
Sufficiently satiated I eventually stomped off to the Bier Garden at about 6pm as I hadn't been there for a year or more. Spent a couple of hours watching and the occasional chat to a FL. Reasonable crowd in and some OKish looking FLs about IMO but nothing to float my boat.
Left to return to Nana and cruised the bars and Go-Go's for an hour or 3, I thought Spanky's had some nice talent and also Mandarin, more of that later.
Went to check out Climax which was reasonably busy by the time I arrived.
Soon spotted something for the night and duly departed after a few drinks to the hotel and some fun, 26 year old, nice pair of boobs and a nice and gentle touch. She left at Noon after 3 rounds and 1500 THB to the good.
After brunch and a stroll I ended up at Dream Heaven in Soi 33, opted for the 2 hour Oil in the VIP room with a gorgeous 20 year old. Excellent performance, very willing to please, BBBJ, mish, cowgirl and doggie for round 1 and round 2 was mish and a doggie finale with a massage and Jacuzzi thrown in. Cost 800 THB for the room and 1500 THB to the girl.
One of the best MP experience I have had of late, I intend a repeat visit to DH upon my next visit to BKK.
Returned to Nana and after visiting a couple of bars ended up in Mandarin, 2 line ups on stage the young school girl skirted and the gold hot pants selection. Picked a golden hot panted one, 27 years old with a cute face and great body and certainly knew how to use it. Everything was on offer and we completed 3 rounds of quite intense action before her early afternoon departure. 2000 THB was the agreed price. Completely knackered I checked out and returned to the NE after picking up a visitor at the airport.
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Mushamisi,
There are some Thai girls that will not go with blacks, but if you're well-dressed, well-groomed and polite, the majority will be happy to go with you. I prefer Bangkok, because I like the big city. Others will tell you that Pattaya is cheaper and more laid back. I think Bangkok women are prettier even though more expensive. Pattaya is a beach town, so it's a very casual resort.
As for massage parlors, Tulip, Mango and Snow White are some of the favorites. If you want a two-girl pornstar experience, try Eden.
First time to Bossy Club (different than Boss Club) last night.
First of all, the Bossy Club is an after hours club. I arrived around 2:30 and it was packed but got more packed as the night wore on.
300 baht to get in and that included 1 drink. After I got it, I discovered that drinks cost 200 baht so that means that it really only cost 100 baht to get in.
The music, as you would expect, is that loud techno hip-hop music.
Most of the males were foreigners in the 20's to the low 30's. I'm considerably older so I really stuck out. That didn't bother the girls though because I got plenty of let's-go-fuck stares.
If you're looking for some white meat, you should check out this place. The few that I talked to were eastern European or Russian.
I was quoted 2,000 and 3,000 by two Thai girls. The white meat wanted 5,000.
When is the best time/month of year to book flights?
Which is the best city?
I am black (it is unfortunate to have to mention) what effect does that have?
I have been considering the TEFL travel and housing option but worry about heavy supervision anyone TOFTT?
When I was in the US a few yrs back (I'm in SEA these days) the best time for airfares was right after the holidays, so about now. Not sure if it's still the case.
In Thailand, there's some backlash against Africans and I think its got to do with the fact there's a heck of a lot of scammers and criminal types in that segment. As long as you dress smart and western style, on the conservative side, you should be ok. I visited some spots in BKK with my black stepdad, and he was plenty popular with the girls, no issues at all.
Whats the TEFL travel/housing option? That isn't that English teaching course, is it? Whats TOFTT? I won't say anything about that til I'm sure I know what you mean.
There's some who much prefer Bangkok (I assume we're talking "for girls" here) and others who swear by Pattaya. On a first visit, if long enough, and if that's mainly what you're after, might as well try both and see what floats your boat.
Here's a site that does a pretty good basic overall view of the scene:
http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com
When is the best time/month of year to book flights?
Book as early as possible. Check out kayak.com.
Which is the best city?
For girls: Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket
For beach: Koh Samui, Koh Phi Phi, Koh Samet
For cultural stuff or hiking: Chiang Mai
I am black (it is unfortunate to have to mention) what effect does that have?
For the most part, the only black people they ever see are a few Nigerian drug dealers who creep around looking really sketchy. Dressing stylishly and acting very gentle and polite will obviously help you out here. Also, you will probably get better treatment if you're with a few white/asian people, as opposed to a group of young black men.
Thai people are very prejudiced against anyone with dark skin, which they associate with being poor, undesirable, etc., which is something you'll have to deal with. Many of them are very obsessed with being as white as possible.
A certain percentage of girls will not want to go with you. But others will have no problem or really want to. Even those that want to may worry about your size hurting them. Many Thai women really do have very small orifices.
I have been considering the TEFL travel and housing option but worry about heavy supervision anyone TOFTT?
Where do they house you? a dorm? a local family?
There are short time rooms for rent in all the major areas if you need them. Not as much fun but it's doable.
When I was in the US a few yrs back (I'm in SEA these days) the best time for airfares was right after the holidays, so about now. Not sure if it's still the case.Any time is good if you can afford it.
April and Chinese new year can be crazy/ April is when they go around shooting people with water cannons etc// someone else can tell you more about that.
But still the best is read through all the reports of distinction. The best info is there. Also you will just discover things.
I go to cities and just get off at a stop from the train or what ever? And then I walk around and have a new adventure.
Also Bangkok tonight is a web site that has a lot of information that is good.
Day trip to Ayuthaya
I had the good fortune to hook up with a non-pro DIA lady who guided me on a day trip to Ayuthaya, the ancient Thai capitol 50 km north of BKK with some Ankor Wat like ruins. I'll focus here on the trip more than the sex. I picked up all expenses which were very reasonable. My Thai lady expected and received no compensation. She was very cost conscious in the way we spent my money during the day. She has worked 6 days a week for the last 15 years as a cashier in a department store. She gets 10 days of holiday a year. She lives by herself and pays 1900 bhat in monthly rent. I enjoyed her company immensely although she spoke really limited English. We did end up in sack that evening, but she's never been married, has no children, and was not an experienced lover. She has a lovely petite body, is age 45..but looks 35...almost 20 yrs my junior.
This was a colorful trip because we went by bus and returned by train. Traveling with the locals was great and showed me a slice of life that I wold have otherwise missed. I'd only recommend this style of travel if you're with a local Thai lady who is good at negotiating the local travel system. She had a quirky habit of keeping a little diary of our expenses as we went through the day. The bus from BKK to Ayuthaya was only 50 bhat/person. The train home, which was super colorful, was about 20 or 30 bhat/person. Hiring a tuktuk in Ayuthaya to take us around the many ancient Wats was the biggest expense at 600. Admission to each Wat was about 40 for me and free for Thais.
She explained that she last visited Ayuthaya 10 years ago. This was a great adventure for her and an escape from her daily routine. She understands I'm not in the market for a wife, but wants to see me when I return to BKK in a few weeks. I'll probably see her.
Early last year I was at an English language school in Siam Square with a girl who was taking a placement test. One of the teachers and I started BSing. He was a black American guy and it sounded like he was having the time of his life. Do note that the pay isn't very good so you'll want to bring your own stash for P4P or just assume you'll be hitting on the students, their friends, your neighbors I guess.
HotShaneHot
02-27-10, 00:05
[QUOTE=J Dougherty]I almost can't believe I made it happened!
A couple of days back, I posted a request for some leads to getting a guy / gal to be involved in a threesome with me and gf (G). Didn't get any replies (not a popular topic, perhaps?), and was a bit dissapointed seeing as the trip was happening soon, and I was hoping to make something happen.
Intimidating. None of the go-go bars elicit much of a reactionthere. Quality wise, most are in the range of 4-5, late 20's, early 30's onwards. We were fortunate to have Tak performed for us (in a slave role). She's the best looking of the bunch, slim and petite, I'd guess about 26 years old. As part of the show, she came over and started licking up my gf's leg, starting from her ankle all the way to her thighs. It turned me on instantly, seeing another woman running her tongue over G's smooth, pale skin.
I have filipina girlfriend. I take her to Thailand all the time with me.
Yes we love to have three somes and moresomes. They are great.
Mostly we get other girls to join, but I am open minded so I do let her have some threesomes and foursomes with guys.
It s all fun. We live in Philippines and sometimes have girls and guys and couples join in. We have three girls living with us so we have built in group sex when wanted. But one girl is shy and wants more privacy.
My girl really likes to have Thai girl join in. And also sometimes a guy or two.
Ha ha. I get plenty of pussy so I am not worried if she has some extra fun.I would love to join in on some of them theesomes and foursomes
I do go Thailand alot
And will prob live there next year
Pm me
Away Too Long
02-27-10, 01:22
Whats the TEFL travel/housing option? That isn't that English teaching course, is it? Whats TOFTT? I won't say anything about that til I'm sure I know what you mean.TEFL is Teaching English as a Foreign Language.
TOFTT - Take one for the team
I was going to Thailand for three years and thought I was in heaven. I like Bangkok, Pattaya, phuket and chaing mai. I like adventure in travel, the beach and of course number one is pussy.
Now I live in Philippines, Angeles City. Love it here. The girls come here from everywhere.
Also I am close to subic and puerto galera. Love the ocean. I have four girls living with me.
Just found this interesting as I've been to all the places you mentioned.
I would've thought you living in AC would be "heaven" as you also live with 4 girls.
This far out weighs all the places in LOS.
Shark
My Thai lady expected and received no compensation. She was very cost conscious in the way we spent my money during the day. She has worked 6 days a week for the last 15 years as a cashier in a department store. She gets 10 days of holiday a year. She lives by herself and pays 1900 bhat in monthly rent. I enjoyed her company immensely although she spoke really limited English. We did end up in sack that evening, but she's never been married, has no children, and was not an experienced lover. She has a lovely petite body, is age 45..but looks 35...almost 20 yrs my junior.
She explained that she last visited Ayuthaya 10 years ago. This was a great adventure for her and an escape from her daily routine. She understands I'm not in the market for a wife, but wants to see me when I return to BKK in a few weeks. I'll probably see her.
Maybe you should reconsider your no wifey stance. She sounds like a keeper.
One Tree Hill
02-27-10, 03:26
Day trip to Ayuthaya
I had the good fortune to hook up with a non-pro DIA lady who guided me on a day trip to Ayuthaya, the ancient Thai capitol 50 km north of BKK with some Ankor Wat like ruins. I'll focus here on the trip more than the sex. I picked up all expenses which were very reasonable. My Thai lady expected and received no compensation. She was very cost conscious in the way we spent my money during the day. She has worked 6 days a week for the last 15 years as a cashier in a department store. She gets 10 days of holiday a year. She lives by herself and pays 1900 bhat in monthly rent. I enjoyed her company immensely although she spoke really limited English. We did end up in sack that evening, but she's never been married, has no children, and was not an experienced lover. She has a lovely petite body, is age 45..but looks 35...almost 20 yrs my junior.
This was a colorful trip because we went by bus and returned by train. Traveling with the locals was great and showed me a slice of life that I wold have otherwise missed. I'd only recommend this style of travel if you're with a local Thai lady who is good at negotiating the local travel system. She had a quirky habit of keeping a little diary of our expenses as we went through the day. The bus from BKK to Ayuthaya was only 50 bhat/person. The train home, which was super colorful, was about 20 or 30 bhat/person. Hiring a tuktuk in Ayuthaya to take us around the many ancient Wats was the biggest expense at 600. Admission to each Wat was about 40 for me and free for Thais.
She explained that she last visited Ayuthaya 10 years ago. This was a great adventure for her and an escape from her daily routine. She understands I'm not in the market for a wife, but wants to see me when I return to BKK in a few weeks. I'll probably see her.
Welcome to the real Thailand my friend!
Just wanted to add my two cents worth. I kived in BKK for 5 years and can relate to being non-white in Thailand.
What some of the others have said is quite true, but I need to tell you when they say "most of the Thai girls" they mean abiut 90% of them are racist. And as one said they have this hangup about being white.
But you can still find some girls that are really happy to be with you. Here are some tips:
In Nana or Soi Cowboy don't be too aggressive, wait until someone speaks with you are makes eye contact.
In Grace hotel you can be as forward as you like the only color that matters there is 'green'. And you can find some gems in Grace hotel.
Just don't be too alarmed that these Thai girls will be rushing after every non-white that walks by them. It's a built in reaction.
Be smart and be fair with the ladies and you will be successful.
There is a really awkward issue that is part of this from the Thai/Asian perspective. Everything we said earlier is true, but there is one other aspect, the one that's actually really difficult to talk about because its a sensitive topic. There's one complaint you would hear from them about certain non-whites, and actually about certain whites too, which is basically the degree of 'natural fragrance' the guy exudes. Basically, Thais shower a lot compared to us in other parts of the world. And they tend to be quite sensitive to body odors. Us guys from other countries generallly smell a bit worse to them than Thais, and we also might have strange non-Thai varieties of body odor for whatever reason (diet, chemistry, etc.).
But all the girls will prefer the non-smell of someone who showers often, hopefully not long before going out, and also the pleasant odor of someone wearing some kind of cologne or after shave or something.
As an American, our guy likely doesn't have serious issues in this direction, but I'd still say overall that non-Thais are generally worse in this regard than Thais. And the Africans have probaby the worst reputation for this. Being black, Thai girls may make the connection on this issue on sight -- so if it was me, I'd just make sure to make this one a non-issue. Like me, I always make apoint of having a shower before heading out for the evening to Nana Plaza or something, and also splash on some fragrance too. I do think it makes a difference.
Member #3428
02-27-10, 08:34
the one that's actually really difficult to talk about because its a sensitive topic.
Agree with what you said about showering and smell. But I'll add another hugely sensitive topic. A mate of mine is from India. He's been to Thailand three times and hated it. Said girls were rude and obnoxious etc... One trip he was with a group of 10 or so Indian's and they all went out together. Said no one paid them any eye contact etc... This guy is a professional individual, fit, well mannered, not cheap, etc... And he was offended by the thai girls reactions. Understandable to me he was offended.
I got him to come back when I was in Thailand. We took him out and introduced him to folks we knew (ladies) during day time and took him out at night and after he spent one afternoon and night with us he was welcomed and girls wanting him. Best trip of his life so far.
Sometimes it's just the approach and who you are with that can make a difference also. Taken in reverse, an old man who is with me usually gets more play then I do as the girls will flock to the old man (less work) then me. Sad but maybe true for some folks. If a person is seen with a crowd (one indian, one fat old white guy, one asian looking guy, and one fat young white guy) and we were enjoying our time and such it seemed to be a better accepted by the ladies then just an Indian alone or a group of Indians. Same happened in another country to a friend of mine who is black.
Sensitive subject... but if you're having troubles or run into things try hanging in mixed company maybe.
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But all the girls will prefer the non-smell of someone who showers often, hopefully not long before going out, and also the pleasant odor of someone wearing some kind of cologne or after shave or something.
As we are on a colour subject :) I am caucasian, and had once a thai girl for a few nights. As you point out she was very accurate about showering. As I did shower just before going out, I was showering quickly when we came back to the room. Was more 'show' shower, honestly. When we were in bed she started to kind of check whether I was smelling or not, abit suspicious I did not shower enough!
Have to say that many years ago had a working mate sharing the same office room. He was from Central Africa. Well, his smell was kind of unbreabale. Was not my opinion only. But not that he did not shower, simply the chemistry of his skin was producing a smell that we are not used to. Could be the food, could be the skin itself. But was hard to stand. Just as we react to local foods in a way as we are not used to, also skin smell changes from people to people.
I saw an old movie newsreel from the 30s that showed some soap company (Camay? cant remember) going around in France demonstrating for school kids how to take a bath and wash their hair. For the soap company it was great marketing because they were basically creating new widespread habits that would result in their getting rich on sales of soap and shampoo. The point made by this was that it wasn't generally popular to take baths yet by that time, at least not as often as we normally do these days. The kind of showering standards we have these days are probably a fairly recent development, like from WW2 onward. (I wonder if any old timers here might be able to weigh in on this) And actually it probably spread geographically, getting passed on from one area to another over decades.
If I was going to bet, I'd say the degree of odor comes down more to culture (hygiene habits of the US / Europe vs those of Africa) than chemistry (which would come down to DNA). I mean, if you just think about it, odor is really small particles in the air that you sense as smell. Those particles must come from something. If you sweat, that sweat gets all over your skin and stays there, or else in your clothes. It's particles of that dried sweat that we smell. If you shower and put on a fresh shirt, you remove that dried sweat, thus far fewer stinky particles in the air around you. Regardless of the particular chemistry those particles are made of, in general the overall effect will be less stinky if youre cleaner and more stinky if you don't shower -- fewer particiles = less stink. Even if you did have some especially potent chemical/stink, you'd still surely reduce its effect as much as possible by showering often.
As we are on a colour subject :) I am caucasian, and had once a thai girl for a few nights. As you point out she was very accurate about showering. As I did shower just before going out, I was showering quickly when we came back to the room. Was more 'show' shower, honestly. When we were in bed she started to kind of check whether I was smelling or not, abit suspicious I did not shower enough!
Have to say that many years ago had a working mate sharing the same office room. He was from Central Africa. Well, his smell was kind of unbreabale. Was not my opinion only. But not that he did not shower, simply the chemistry of his skin was producing a smell that we are not used to. Could be the food, could be the skin itself. But was hard to stand. Just as we react to local foods in a way as we are not used to, also skin smell changes from people to people.Thank you to everyone who has responsed to my earlier post and I greatly admire how the senior members steered the conversation back to mongering after it unfortunately went in a racial discussion. That was not my intent but unfortunately I have had girls cancel appointments on me and directly mention race. I even know of other monger who were told over thThat said the focus is mongers phone they could not book an appointment because they sounded too foreign/arab (but thats here in states)that said the focus of the forum is for info and everyone has provided me a lot of clarity.
One that sticks out is to travel with other mongers. It usually makes for a better time than travelling solo.
Again thank you for the response and I apologise for the distraction.
I saw an old movie newsreel from the 30s that showed some soap company (Camay? cant remember) going around in France demonstrating for school kids how to take a bath and wash their hair. For the soap company it was great marketing because they were basically creating new widespread habits that would result in their getting rich on sales of soap and shampoo. The point made by this was that it wasn't generally popular to take baths yet by that time, at least not as often as we normally do these days. The kind of showering standards we have these days are probably a fairly recent development, like from WW2 onward. (I wonder if any old timers here might be able to weigh in on this) And actually it probably spread geographically, getting passed on from one area to another over decades.
If I was going to bet, I'd say the degree of odor comes down more to culture (hygiene habits of the US / Europe vs those of Africa) than chemistry (which would come down to DNA). I mean, if you just think about it, odor is really small particles in the air that you sense as smell. Those particles must come from something. If you sweat, that sweat gets all over your skin and stays there, or else in your clothes. It's particles of that dried sweat that we smell. If you shower and put on a fresh shirt, you remove that dried sweat, thus far fewer stinky particles in the air around you. Regardless of the particular chemistry those particles are made of, in general the overall effect will be less stinky if youre cleaner and more stinky if you don't shower -- fewer particiles = less stink. Even if you did have some especially potent chemical/stink, you'd still surely reduce its effect as much as possible by showering often.
Don't take this a mere 'racist' comment, but it is a fact that different races have different 'body' structures. Not for nothing there are white, dark, black, some have round eyes, some not. Curly hair are more typical (not100%) afro and so on and so on. Not a wonder the odour of one is different from the odour of another one. It has also something to do with the food (ingredients) regularly consumed by the 'race' or ethnical and geographical population.
Just a mere fact, nothing to do with being different with a bad meaning.
Do not think a shower will remove the stinky effect if you suffer of that 'emotional' (and strongly odourly) sweating that sometime hits (regularly or non regularly) a lot of people. Happens to me sometime to feel myself I stink, just 2 minutes after the shower I took to ... remove the odour. And I am not (at least I do not think!) one of those people suffering of stinking sweat.
Bodies are not the same...
Member #3428
02-27-10, 12:25
Happens to me sometime to feel myself I stink, just 2 minutes after the shower I took to ... remove the odour.
Also, many folks are not used to a hot humid environment, their bodies will naturally react differently in Thailand due to the different environmental conditions.
I am white and the first time I was with a black girl I noticed this strange musky odor, strongest in the crotch, which I assumed was just her. Honestly it made me a bit nauseous. Then I was with a couple more black girls and there was the same odor. One girl in particular I slept with after playing tennis in the summer heat for 2 hours and not showering. When I took off her pants I really almost vomited.
Now I'm sort of scared off from black girls simply because of the odor. I did some googling and apparently it has something to do with their hair follicles and sweat glands and that sort of thing, which is a different issue than some Indian people who might smell due to their diet.
So if it was tough for me to deal with as a white person, I think for Thai girls it would be twice as bad. It's probably best for black guys (and also for white guys) to be extra hygienic when dealing with thai girls.
And I am not (at least I do not think!) one of those people suffering of stinking sweat.
Bodies are not the same...
Maybe it has something to do with you being bionic.
Seriously, I realize some people got the stank naturally more than others, but if you stink that bad after a few minutes after showering, think how bad it'd be if you didn't shower.
M P Lurker
02-27-10, 16:58
I am white and the first time I was with a black girl I noticed this strange musky odor, strongest in the crotch, which I assumed was just her. Honestly it made me a bit nauseous. Then I was with a couple more black girls and there was the same odor. One girl in particular I slept with after playing tennis in the summer heat for 2 hours and not showering. When I took off her pants I really almost vomited.
Now I'm sort of scared off from black girls simply because of the odor. I did some googling and apparently it has something to do with their hair follicles and sweat glands and that sort of thing, which is a different issue than some Indian people who might smell due to their diet.
So if it was tough for me to deal with as a white person, I think for Thai girls it would be twice as bad. It's probably best for black guys (and also for white guys) to be extra hygienic when dealing with thai girls.
Its known scientifically that the acrid stench (or fragrant smell - to some people ;)) in human armpits and genital areas, arseholes, and a few other minor locations is due Aprocrine sweat glands.
The level of smell is likely to be influenced by the person's frequency and skill in cleaning, diet, health, stress level, medication and especially genetics (which is unfortunately racially influenced).
In technical terms, it depends on just how densely populated are these apocrine glands and how big they are including the size of the opening, and how much stuff they secrete, and bacteria levels. The smell is actually caused by bacteria that can enter the apocrine glands. Washing on the outside cannot get rid of bacteria that have entered the gland.
Yellow armpit stains are caused by aprocrine sweat glands.
For many people having a good shower with lots of soap or cleansing lotion can do the trick (if the secreting has largely stopped), but for others this is not enough, as the glands keep secreting smelling stuff at a great rate. Medical assistence may be possible to reduce the bacteria levels.
East Asians like Chinese and Thais are known to have very few aprocrine sweat glands (perhaps none in some persons) and have heaps of another variety (that everyone has), which don't smell. That's why they don't smell and are not used to body odours. Some cultures are used to the body odours, as its very prevalent, and don't really notice it. The Asians are very sensitive to it.
One day I got into a Hotel lift with several very sweaty Thai workman. No B.O. whatsoever. Then a guest of the Hotel got into the lift and we all almost feinted. :eek:
Sorry, I was trying to keep this technical.
That's the way it is. Us Farangs have a problem that Thais don't have until we go near them.
I wonder if the Soapy MP surcharges for Farangs are because some of us stink? Might be one factor.
Watch out guys. Maybe no BBBJ if your dick has overly active apocrine sweat glands (or if you just don't clean it enough).
Terry Terrier
02-28-10, 00:18
Its known scientifically that the acrid stench (or fragrant smell - to some people ;)) in human armpits and genital areas, arseholes, and a few other minor locations is due Aprocrine sweat glands.
The level of smell is likely to be influenced by the person's frequency and skill in cleaning, diet, health, stress level, medication and especially genetics (which is unfortunately racially influenced).
In technical terms, it depends on just how densely populated are these apocrine glands and how big they are including the size of the opening, and how much stuff they secrete, and bacteria levels. The smell is actually caused by bacteria that can enter the apocrine glands. Washing on the outside cannot get rid of bacteria that have entered the gland.
Yellow armpit stains are caused by aprocrine sweat glands.
For many people having a good shower with lots of soap or cleansing lotion can do the trick (if the secreting has largely stopped), but for others this is not enough, as the glands keep secreting smelling stuff at a great rate. Medical assistence may be possible to reduce the bacteria levels.
East Asians like Chinese and Thais are known to have very few aprocrine sweat glands (perhaps none in some persons) and have heaps of another variety (that everyone has), which don't smell. That's why they don't smell and are not used to body odours. Some cultures are used to the body odours, as its very prevalent, and don't really notice it. The Asians are very sensitive to it.
One day I got into a Hotel lift with several very sweaty Thai workman. No B.O. whatsoever. Then a guest of the Hotel got into the lift and we all almost feinted. :eek:
Sorry, I was trying to keep this technical.
That's the way it is. Us Farangs have a problem that Thais don't have until we go near them.
I wonder if the Soapy MP surcharges for Farangs are because some of us stink? Might be one factor.
Watch out guys. Maybe no BBBJ if your dick has overly active apocrine sweat glands (or if you just don't clean it enough).
Mick Licker/MP Lurker/Whatever You're Calling Yourself These Days, the major factor is diet. Take the time to ask your Asian contacts in Oz about how foodstuffs such as dairy, etc and other lifestyle changes have affected their levels of body odour/static charge/so-on and so-forth.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Westerners buttering up to Thai prejudices are pathetic and nauseating. And not only that, they are usually more disliked by the bigoted locals they are trying to impress than the people they are trying to ridicule :D.
Thanks for the detail MP Lurker. I didn't know all that.
One trick to prevent odor is to keep your public hair trimmed as short as possible. This is true for women also.
In the shower, scrubbing the crotch firmly with a washcloth works much better than simply running a bar of soap over it.
Rocky Power
02-28-10, 06:10
I've had issues with over sweating/smelling and even tho I will take long showers and scrub and scrub in the sensitive areas. 5 minutes after a shower I know I stink. Ha.
In my home country its not too bad but SEA can be embarassing for me.
Thankfully I've come across a product called Maxim which has helped me immensely.
It may or may not help you but for me it seems to block the sweat glands where I apply it and stops me smelling.
Mick Licker/MP Lurker/Whatever You're Calling Yourself These Days, the major factor is diet. Take the time to ask your Asian contacts in Oz about how foodstuffs such as dairy, etc and other lifestyle changes have affected their levels of body odour/static charge/so-on and so-forth.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Westerners buttering up to Thai prejudices are pathetic and nauseating. And not only that, they are usually more disliked by the bigoted locals they are trying to impress than the people they are trying to ridicule :D.
Um, which 'buttering up' behavior exactly is it that nauseates you?
I'm not sure MPL's Asian contacts in Oz are what we should consider to be the highest authority on this. Yeah ok, the diet is different. But if some people who have no idea about human physiology have decided that diet alone is the main connection to body odor doesnt' make it so.
Related question:
Does anyone know how/where I can buy anti-bacterial soap, as opposed to regular soap?
With the writing on the boxes being mostly Thai I can't tell.
Also, does anyone know where you can buy Durex Performax condoms?
http://graphics.condom.com/Images/400JPG/CDD-PFML-12R_400.jpg
These things are amazing, and sex for me won't be anywhere near as good when I run out of them.
Is there a big condom store anywhere?
What's a good place in BKK for a wide variety of fetish clothing (fuck me boots, nurses outfits, etc...) and other fun things (leather cuffs, chokers, etc...)? Quality more important than price.
Maybe it has something to do with you being bionic.
Seriously, I realize some people got the stank naturally more than others, but if you stink that bad after a few minutes after showering, think how bad it'd be if you didn't shower.
LOL, that is very occasional indeed (thanksgod!), it is not 'that' bad, but it is still surprising that this comes jsut after a shower. But as MP Lurker put it afterwards, cleaning helps a lot, of course, but the odour is really generated whilst we might just think it is in the surfece of the skin due to sweating (excercise, heat or.... guess what?). My point was that experience proves the odour is not necessarily just wiped away by a shower.
Anyhow... enough said...this subject starts to stink :)
Mick Licker/MP Lurker/Whatever You're Calling Yourself These Days, the major factor is diet. Take the time to ask your Asian contacts in Oz about how foodstuffs such as dairy, etc and other lifestyle changes have affected their levels of body odour/static charge/so-on and so-forth.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Westerners buttering up to Thai prejudices are pathetic and nauseating. And not only that, they are usually more disliked by the bigoted locals they are trying to impress than the people they are trying to ridicule :D.Tt,
You are funny and the 2nd paragraph is not even worth commenting on.
Sure Asians may experience a change in body odour when they change their diet. But they are very sensitive to these things. Some westerners wouldn't notice any change whatsoever. Diet has an effect, sure, but its not the "major" factor. My friend can reek of onions on occasions but that was mainly a mouth odour. Another mate reeked of garlic after eating Indian food. Maybe I would have less B. O., after heavy activity if I didn't eat dairy.
But the producer of the odour is those glands and the number, size of them and amount of secretion is far more influencing than the diet. East Asians hardly have them! This biological info can easily be found on the internet.
Arno Inaka
02-28-10, 10:06
What's a good place in BKK for a wide variety of fetish clothing (fuck me boots, nurses outfits, etc...) and other fun things (leather cuffs, chokers, etc...)? Quality more important than price.What i know is that these things are prohibited in Thailand.
You even can have problems when you got them in your bag and they check your at the airport.
LOL, that is very occasional indeed (thanksgod!), it is not 'that' bad, but it is still surprising that this comes jsut after a shower. But as MP Lurker put it afterwards, cleaning helps a lot, of course, but the odour is really generated whilst we might just think it is in the surfece of the skin due to sweating (excercise, heat or.... guess what?). My point was that experience proves the odour is not necessarily just wiped away by a shower.
Anyhow... enough said...this subject starts to stink :)
It must be your bionic glands ;)
Jeff Sinclair
02-28-10, 10:59
Related question:
Does anyone know how/where I can buy anti-bacterial soap, as opposed to regular soap?
With the writing on the boxes being mostly Thai I can't tell.
Also, does anyone know where you can buy Durex Performax condoms?
http://graphics.condom.com/Images/400JPG/CDD-PFML-12R_400.jpg
These things are amazing, and sex for me won't be anywhere near as good when I run out of them.
Is there a big condom store anywhere?Both big see and tesco lotus sell Protec and Dettol soap with the writing in English as well as Thai.
Also most 7-11 and family marts in farang areas sell the same.
its known scientifically that the acrid stench (or fragrant smell - to some people ;)) in human armpits and genital areas, arseholes, and a few other minor locations is due aprocrine sweat glands.
the level of smell is likely to be influenced by the person's frequency and skill in cleaning, diet, health, stress level, medication and especially genetics (which is unfortunately racially influenced).
in technical terms, it depends on just how densely populated are these apocrine glands and how big they are including the size of the opening, and how much stuff they secrete, and bacteria levels. the smell is actually caused by bacteria that can enter the apocrine glands. washing on the outside cannot get rid of bacteria that have entered the gland.
yellow armpit stains are caused by aprocrine sweat glands.
for many people having a good shower with lots of soap or cleansing lotion can do the trick (if the secreting has largely stopped), but for others this is not enough, as the glands keep secreting smelling stuff at a great rate. medical assistence may be possible to reduce the bacteria levels.
east asians like chinese and thais are known to have very few aprocrine sweat glands (perhaps none in some persons) and have heaps of another variety (that everyone has), which don't smell. that's why they don't smell and are not used to body odours. some cultures are used to the body odours, as its very prevalent, and don't really notice it. the asians are very sensitive to it.
one day i got into a hotel lift with several very sweaty thai workman. no b.o. whatsoever. then a guest of the hotel got into the lift and we all almost feinted. :eek:
sorry, i was trying to keep this technical.
that's the way it is. us farangs have a problem that thais don't have until we go near them.
i wonder if the soapy mp surcharges for farangs are because some of us stink? might be one factor.
watch out guys. maybe no bbbj if your dick has overly active apocrine sweat glands (or if you just don't clean it enough).
i am not sure i agree with you about bo and east asians. ever got on the back of one of those motorbike taxis in bkk, vietnam cambodia etc when the driver has not showered for some time? it may well be that males generally stink more than females - certainly [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) from men stinks far more than [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) from women (which is why male toilets do smell). but to think that east asian or south east asian women do not smell if they have not washed is nonsense. esp the feet in some cases!
Terry Terrier
03-01-10, 00:24
Tt,
You are funny and the 2nd paragraph is not even worth commenting on.
Sure Asians may experience a change in body odour when they change their diet. But they are very sensitive to these things. Some westerners wouldn't notice any change whatsoever. Diet has an effect, sure, but its not the "major" factor. My friend can reek of onions on occasions but that was mainly a mouth odour. Another mate reeked of garlic after eating Indian food. Maybe I would have less B. O., after heavy activity if I didn't eat dairy.
But the producer of the odour is those glands and the number, size of them and amount of secretion is far more influencing than the diet. East Asians hardly have them! This biological info can easily be found on the internet.
And your second paragraph wouldn't even be worth commenting on except for the fact that it contains so much silliness. It doesn't matter whether Asians are sensitive to the fact that their changes in diet affect their changes in body odour or not. And, like I stated, it's not only body odours that are affected by diet change: Talk to any expat Thai about their susceptibility to static shocks IN THAILAND when they return, and their problems with body odour and sweating both in farangland and Thailand after their changes in diet.
Maybe you are one of those pathetic, nauseating farang like Mick Licker/MP Lurker/ Whatever He Calls Himself These Days who likes to big himself up by doing down other farang to local Thais in his hopeless attempts to ingratiate himself to said Thais.
Old Thai Hand (who knows far more about Thailand than Mick Whatever Name ever will) wised up to this silly obsequiousness long ago, after initially falling foul to it. BTW, Mick, you avoided the accusations levelled at you wrt the OTH banning. Were you one of the two "very senior posters" who complained about OTH?
One trick to prevent odor is to keep your public hair trimmed as short as possible.Loved the typo :-). But yes, I agree. Not that you want to know this, but before I go to Thailand I always ensure my body hair (and I'm by no means hairy) is trimmed to a minimum all over. I don't shave or wax as it wouldn't look natural. Along with regular showers that keeps me odour-free. And perhaps the girls might prefer a less hairy guy?
Both big see and tesco lotus sell Protec and Dettol soap with the writing in English as well as Thai.
Also most 7-11 and family marts in farang areas sell the same.
Story on Slate.com this week about how anti-bacterial soaps consistently fail any tests to see how effective they are in preventing illness. I guess they haven't done too many tests yet to see whether they're effective in preventing B.O. ;)
But the gist was that in terms of reducing sickness (H1N1 virus, flus, colds, etc.) they're a myth.
Story on Slate.com this week about how anti-bacterial soaps consistently fail any tests to see how effective they are in preventing illness. I guess they haven't done too many tests yet to see whether they're effective in preventing B.O. ;)
But the gist was that in terms of reducing sickness (H1N1 virus, flus, colds, etc.) they're a myth.
I haven't read the article, but viruses and bacteria are two completely different things. Anti-bacterial soap wouldn't have any impact on illnesses caused by viruses.
Does anyone have experience (success) in the coyote clubs? I do not mean bars on Soi Cowboy that use coyote style, but rather the big places in Bangkok that have the big lineups of model-quality girls, as can be seen on youtube.
Are there a few of these that can be recommended?
How do you play it? Is it really difficult to pick up there?
What are prices like if you do succeed?
I'm guessing it's not that easy, otherwise there'd be a lot more talk about them here.
There's one of these places featured in that Nicholas Cage movie Bangkok Dangerous, the Caribbean club (which apparently really exists).
Some vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvTPfX7dlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHWl-6CFUhs
(apologies for the crap camera work on these -- can find better by searching youtube, these were just some of the first links that came up -- just to give an idea)
I haven't read the article, but viruses and bacteria are two completely different things. Anti-bacterial soap wouldn't have any impact on illnesses caused by viruses.
Of course. But there are some viruses that are spread by touch (hands to mouth/nose) and for those, washing does supposedly help, and probably the anti-bacteria component is a non-factor -- rather its the act of washing that does it. For air-borne viruses (liquid particles carried by air, breathed or swallowed in) it's obviously completely inefective.
I too am a big fan of Nicholas Cage's movie Bangkok Dangerous, the Caribbean Club is very real as it did exist until last year when it closed. Clubs like this exist primarily for weathy Thais or long term expatriates. Usually involve steep membership dues. See link below:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=922621&postcount=7123
Thai's do like stage shows at all levels from the Tawan Dang german/thai restaurant on Rama III or the Hollywood disco on Ratcha. Much cheaper, but not pickup places. G-Clubs are a whole nother level for big buck business thai's and Japanese. Mostly for impressing business clients and gaining business influence. Bring lots of Baht or keep to Soi Cowboy or NEP.
...Thai's do like stage shows at all levels from the Tawan Dang german/thai restaurant on Rama III or the Hollywood disco on Ratcha. Much cheaper, but not pickup places....I threw a birthday party for my GF a few nights ago at the Rama III Tawangang --
about 10 bargirls, one ladyboy, two old guys, good food, a couple of beer towers, and 3 litres of Johnny Red. It was a great time.
Sitting next to us were a couple of big tables full of farang guys (no ladies). You should have seen the drool on their chins. At the end of the night just as we were walking out, one of my BG guests pulled a guy from another table. She stopped us at the taxi looking for one more girl to join her impromptu party!
...
Maybe you are one of those pathetic, nauseating farang like Mick Licker/MP Lurker/ Whatever He Calls Himself These Days who likes to big himself up by doing down other farang to local Thais in his hopeless attempts to ingratiate himself to said Thais.
Old Thai Hand (who knows far more about Thailand than Mick Whatever Name ever will) wised up to this silly obsequiousness long ago, after initially falling foul to it. BTW, Mick, you avoided the accusations levelled at you wrt the OTH banning. Were you one of the two "very senior posters" who complained about OTH?Terry, Terry,
It was a long cold winter down there in England, lots of snow, right? And now Xynthia ... I feel with you. Really :) !
Btw., the girls are right now showing up for work, I love this mini shirts and hot pants they wear before they dress up. It's a bit warm here in Bangkok, 33/34 deg. Celsius, sunshine, blue sky today. Hot, I am sweating, sorry for my BO :) ...
Just chatting with OTH on MSN. He still remembers you!
Life is hard, I tell you!
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS: MP Lurker, I always knew it :) !
Both big see and tesco lotus sell Protec and Dettol soap with the writing in English as well as Thai.
Also most 7-11 and family marts in farang areas sell the same.
Went to 7-11 today and saw both brands but the writing is not in English except for the ingredients. I didn't see anything about it being anti-bacterial soap.
Jeff Sinclair
03-01-10, 13:15
Went to 7-11 today and saw both brands but the writing is not in English except for the ingredients. I didn't see anything about it being anti-bacterial soap.I am just back and can confirm that dettol is anti bacterial.
Protec is a cheaper version.
Thai gf reads and writes english and she buys this soap for me as she knows I use anti bacterial soap as the insect bites tend to get to me.
Tesco (large ones) also sell liquid anti bacterial handwash and soap.
Old Thai Hand
03-01-10, 13:17
Greetings Everyone,
Old Thai Hand posted that he has no interest in participating in the forum.
Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his membership.
Thanks,
Jackson
Yes, welcome prodigal, but let me say that the meeting of 'real' Thai woman does not act as a profilactic against an interest in minutae. I hob-nob with those ladies every day and do still find B.O. one of life's fascinations.
Suntangh R
03-01-10, 15:24
Geez! I'm gone 9 months and the forum is reduced to in-depth, intellectual discussions about....BODY ODOR...WTF???
GAWD!!! You guys really do need me to come back to enlighten you about all things Thai, about REAL Thai women, and how to meet them, and in general, to lead you out of the darkness.
But....I've got better things to do...Happy smelling!!!!!!!!!
OTHHi OTH,
I joined the forum after you went on your sabbatical. Enjoyed reading your posts! Welcome and stay on.
Suntangh R
03-01-10, 15:26
Yes, welcome prodigal, but let me say that the meeting of 'real' Thai woman does not act as a profilactic against an interest in minutae. I hob-nob with those ladies every day and do still find B.O. one of life's fascinations.Missing NicFrenchy!
Geez! I'm gone 9 months and the forum is reduced to in-depth, intellectual discussions about....BODY ODOR...WTF???
GAWD!!! You guys really do need me to come back to enlighten you about all things Thai, about REAL Thai women, and how to meet them, and in general, to lead you out of the darkness.
But....I've got better things to do...Happy smelling!!!!!!!!!
OTH
I know.... a stinky subject!
Terry Terrier
03-02-10, 00:15
Terry, Terry,
It was a long cold winter down there in England, lots of snow, right? And now Xynthia ... I feel with you. Really :) !
Btw., the girls are right now showing up for work, I love this mini shirts and hot pants they wear before they dress up. It's a bit warm here in Bangkok, 33/34 deg. Celsius, sunshine, blue sky today. Hot, I am sweating, sorry for my BO :) ...
Just chatting with OTH on MSN. He still remembers you!
Life is hard, I tell you!
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS: MP Lurker, I always knew it :) !
G, It snowed a lot in the UK this Winter. Ever talked with Thais about snow? I'm so jealous of that lovely Bangkok climate that starts to develop about now. Still, I can always visit my local sauna as compensation. WTF is Xynthia?
Geez! I'm gone 9 months and the forum is reduced to in-depth, intellectual discussions about....BODY ODOR...WTF???
GAWD!!! You guys really do need me to come back to enlighten you about all things Thai, about REAL Thai women, and how to meet them, and in general, to lead you out of the darkness.
But....I've got better things to do...Happy smelling!!!!!!!!!
OTH
Not quite the grand re-entrance, but never mind. Welcome back, you BOF.
I realize individual mileage varies with everything, even pricing. Nonetheless I'd like to get a basic idea of the general "going rate" with the after hour club freelancers.. both Thai and non Thai. I know there are some Russians and Uzbeks, former FSU girls around as well and I suspect their prices will be higher but I'd like to know what to generally expect.
thanks in advance.
I can answer my own question now.
For long time, which is usually my preference, 2000 baht is considered the "going price" , a "good" going price among Thais, and that's either among freelancers along Sukhumvit or girls found in the after hours clubs.
The Russians basically try to charge double plus. Every girl in CM2, Thai or foreign will try to charge double plus. It must be those expensive dresses they're wearing and the crazy 650 baht entrance fee they have to pay (as do you) just to get in. (you get one free drink with that, and then it's basically 10 dollars a drink.
Had some great success in the after hours clubs. My kind of scene. Stepped into a gogo once and left annoyed shortly thereafter. Lots of scary dogs on Sukhumvit but every now and again you'll find an absolute gem.
Saw some incredibly attractive Thai girls partying it up at the Soi 11 clubs like Klimaxx on the weekends. RCA also good, but you're wasting your time there if you're over 35, perhaps even 30. (depending on how you look)
I can answer my own question now.
I do realize you are talking about FL. If you consider go-go girls, then those normally go out for 3000 plus let's say 700 bar fine*. Total, that's $113 US** for a LT. (and also keep in mind that the girls who are hot and know it will even ask for 4000 or more to go LT -- if so, add $30 for every 1000 baht)
I wish people would quote prices this way (total price) to give us a better idea what things really cost. Especially when talking about gogos, it's very misleading to just mentoin the ST or LT price, since the barfine can be over 1/3 of the total that you really pay. So the cheapest ST you can hope to find at a gogo now is 1500 ST plus 500 BF, so actually 2000 baht***, or $61 US****.
And yeah, I realize you are talking about FL. Just thought i'd mention this as a reality check for those (and I'm one) who find it easy to fuzz out what thinsg actually do cost.
Anyway, for a LT, you can see quickly there that a lowish end FL girl really costs about half what a gogo girl does. OK you can get cheaper even at Starbucks around 3am... if that's your thing, go for it.
* yes I realize there's bars with 500 baht BF and girls who'll go for less than 3000 LT... but they're the lower end of the spectrum -- 3000 + 700 seems like a fair 'typical'. If you disagree, I'll listen.
** source: Bank of Bangkok (http://www.bangkokbank.com/Bangkok%20Bank/Personal%20Banking/Foreign%20Exchange/FX%20Rates/Pages/Default.aspx)
*** good look finding her...and if you do, better to do ST cuz you may get some surprise when you wake up in the morning
**** thought I'd mention that I did a previous version of this post including the Euro and Pound prices, but my browser ate it. Feel free to reply with those -- I'm American so USD works for me.
So the cheapest ST you can hope to find at a gogo now is 1500 ST plus 500 BF, so actually 2000 baht***, or $61 US****.
I've found that if I'm able to negotiate down do 1500 (I have about 75% success,but feels like pulling teeth sometimes), they will usually only want to go to a short time room close by, which adds another 300 baht to the total. 2300-2400 baht ST
FreebieFan
03-04-10, 01:14
Generally resident in Malaysia but tired of posting there due to some noxious knobheads and racist fools.
Meanwhile, had me a BKK trip in past few days, that as always left me destroyed. Why do we men over 50 think we can behave like we are teenagers LOL. But we do. And will do it all over again.
2 years ago met a nurse on DIA. We met several times over past few years for days/nights of happy bonking. Anyway, we agreed to meet on this most recent trip and for me it represented a good way of starting my BKK trip.
Arrived Sunday and got new sim card (why do thai sim cards expire after only 2 months?), got to hotel and went to 7-11 for some beers for the room. Error! No alcohol as it Buddha holiday.
Hmm Went to pharmacy near JW Marriott for kamagra etc and the guy sold me some whisky and beer.
Met the nurse, and within a few minutes in the room we are getting hotter and more naked. My friend has become a bit of an exhibitionist so lots of leaning naked against windows etc. She wanted sex on flooor, on table, against the door, in bath etcetc. Endless.
Went out for dinner, back to room, got her all kitted out in a body stocking for some late night photos. Maybe it was the whisky but she also tells me she wants to try 3somes, and in the middle of one about of sex starts telling she wants to be my second wife. Oh and could she have a 3 some with my wife too. I said Id think on that. LOL.
Sent her off the next morning, and aside from the cost of food and drinks and body stocking and a cheap dress and even cheaper and wonderfully tacky bikini was free.
Did work, then back to hotel by 2 to meet next freebie. Also a DIA lady. 32. Businesswoman type. Weve been chatting for 3 months but never met. Had sex on cam so I knew the body before seeing it. Up to room and within 5 minutes were making out with my hand up her skirt. Just like teenagers LOL.
We take a break and she goes and gets her bag.
In a presentation box is a beatifully hand painted cup and saucer. Her gift to me. How sweet. We resume and bonk till 5pm when she returns to her town some 65 kms away.
That leaves me free which is good. Few beers in Biergarten and talk to Joy there. Go Cowboy, which was fine. Nice dancers upstairs in Dollhouse.
From there to a massage place where Miaow is ready for me. Been seeing her for 5 years. Gives me a nice massage, hand and blow, I even give her a little licking. Then refreshed, off to Nana.
Had a few beers in Exotique and met a girl whos name I forget. Cute, 23, only been in bar 2 months, goes to learn English every day in a college. Anyways I pay her bf and off we go for food and beers. We get to room and also start making out for a while.
She then gets a call from a friend who says she has put a car key in my girls bag. Friend asks her to go to Nana to give her the key. My girl clearly confused and I tell her to tell her friend to come to hotel to collect it. My girl still confused and says she should go.
Hmm I say what about the BF I paid. My poor girl goes to her wallet and pays me the Bht 600. I give her 100 for taxi fare and she leaves. Don't realy know what all that was about but it didn't matter, as I was sleepy and not really horny anyway.
Next day, go to work and am at hotel at 3pm to meet the next freebie. A lady of 36 but with very sweet face. Weve exchanged emails and photoos over past few months, and more recently she had sent some very hot pics so I knew theres a nice slim body hiding there.
She arrives and taller than expected and very cute. Lives in Rayong. Up to the room, where she gives me a cute Thai /English book and a cross stitched picture. She takes shower, I give her some cheap tacky lingerie to wear and we start. Girl is very hungry and says shes had no sex for a year.
Well shes also happy to show the adjoining office tower her goodies also.
We rest then head for Suan Lum. She wears a summer dress but I suggest she removes panties. She insists to pay taxi and then buys me a really nice clock in the night market. So there we are sitting in Suan Lum eating som tam and my hand is up her dress. Girl is one of those rare girls than can have orgasm after orgasm. And she says being fingered in Suan Lum she came 5 times.
We head for Cowboy and she is fascinated by the bars there and even more fascinated by the girls dancing upstairs in Dollhouse.
We go to Long Gun for the show. We have a quiet corner and I guess as result of a few beers, its not long before my hand up her dress again, sucking her boobs and even licking pussy, oh so discreetly. Naked girls on stage 3 metres away so I didn't see why not LOL.
From there we cal Miaow to ask if she wants to join us for 3 some (yes we'd discussed this in emails before her trip) but the sweet Miaow was home, dueto sick child. Darn.
Back to room and lots more items for her to dress up in. Somewhere in the middle of sex she starts caling me her husband. Eventually at 3 am we are out of energy. We sleep. And at 6:30 I'm woken up by Ms Rayong sucking me.
Lifes good I thought but so tiring. Pack up by 9am and head for home.
3 days, 3 girls. Two of whom want 3 somes which I have to arrange for the next trip.! The gifts. This was new for me, and not experienced before. Meanwhile will take me a day or two to recover before the next adventure.
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Saw some incredibly attractive Thai girls partying it up at the Soi 11 clubs like Klimaxx on the weekends. RCA also good, but you're wasting your time there if you're over 35, perhaps even 30. (depending on how you look)I am quite older than 35 and have been approached many times at the after hours club you mentioned. Girls are looking to make money and age plays very small part in their strategy.
Jimmy Red Cab
03-04-10, 11:54
Arrived Sunday and got new sim card (why do thai sim cards expire after only 2 months?)
Easy answer ---------- the phone companies realise that most tourists do not return within two months so they want you to lose any credit on the Sim card and force you to buy a new one, yet another Thai scam.
the girl i like (dao) was absent from star of light so i decided to try mike's bar, the close by alternative "bj bar" venue, just down the road next to the foodland supermarket, which doesn't get reviewed much here. well, the place was totally empty from customers, it's the usual dark bar with pool table etc and some small rooms with a tiny bed on the side; there was at least one very cute and young girl there, but she got taken by a guy who just walked in while i was ordering my beer and being "massaged" rather annoyingly by the other girls. have to be quicker next time!
there were about 6-7 girls, two cuties. so i took the remaining less cute girl (a 7 with ok tits) and she took me to the room, cleaned me with a freezing napkin (not very pleasant!) did a fair but not great bbbj (i'd say 6 /10 with the benchmark being sol (and my current thai geek girl!), [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) being a 7.8), following my directions with little enthusiasm (very little ball licking, no rimming, too much hand), and suggesting boom boom several times for an extra 800baht. can't remember the price for bj, but i think the same as sol, so 700.
i took a while to finish as she wasn't great, and the climax was. a let down as she took very little in her mouth.
i left rather quickly, and she seemed disappointed. won't go again, except to check out if the cuter girl is still there. the fact that they have little rooms is a good point i suppose.
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For those with Happy/Dtac Sim cards, you can extend your sim's validity by 6 months by calling *1013
You can do this twice which gives you one year
Then every time you top up, you get more validity added to the end of that
What is DIA. Is it registration free?
For those with Happy/Dtac Sim cards, you can extend your sim's validity by 6 months by calling *1013
You can do this twice which gives you one year
Then every time you top up, you get more validity added to the end of thatGood to know, thanks. Is there a charge to do this or is it a bi-annual freebie?
Last time I was in BKK my sim card had expired by about 1 month, so I stopped at the DTAC counter in the airport to see if there was anything they could do and they reactivated my number at no charge. All I had to do was put 100 baht on the phone. I don't know how long it takes for them to recycle a number, but if you have a sim that has expired fairly recently it might be worth a shot to see if it can be reactivated.
Saw some incredibly attractive Thai girls partying it up at the Soi 11 clubs like Klimaxx on the weekends. RCA also good, but you're wasting your time there if you're over 35, perhaps even 30. (depending on how you look)I am in my early 50's and I have no trouble snagging smoking hot young chicks at Climax or Q Bar or Scratch Dog. That's because most of the girls at Climax are looking for business and couldn't care less about your age.
I do have trouble at places like Narcissus, Glow, and RCA. In general, if the majority of male customers are young Thai men. Us old farangs are fucked. Because most of the women are not hookers.
I am quite older than 35 and have been approached many times at the after hours club you mentioned. Girls are looking to make money and age plays very small part in their strategy.
basically true in after hours clubs, they're on the game, though if she has a younger guy also willing to pay you may lose. Were you referring to Klimaxx?
I was talking about RCA. These are not after hours clubs. It's where the youth of Bangkok goes to party. Regular clubs and discos. If you're much over 35, certainly 40 you will stand out like a sore thumb and basically wind up sucking on it yourself all night long.
FreebieFan
03-05-10, 01:02
Easy answer ---------- the phone companies realise that most tourists do not return within two months so they want you to lose any credit on the Sim card and force you to buy a new one, yet another Thai scam.Yeah, a rather obvious answer to not so clever question lol.
The standard around Asia standard varies so much. My China sim was valid for over a year with no use, I think in Jakarta its 2 or 3 months. HK was 6 months, Philippines is also now 6 months.
I'm looking for a 1 bedroom apartment between Soi 4 and Soi 24 for less than 20,000 baht a month.
Any recommendation?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Yeah, a rather obvious answer to not so clever question lol.
The standard around Asia standard varies so much. My China sim was valid for over a year with no use, I think in Jakarta its 2 or 3 months. HK was 6 months, Philippines is also now 6 months.
Of the number of people who buy these cards, the percentage who are tourists is probably a small fraction of 1%. It doen't really make sense that they would set it up that way specifically to sting tourists. THey're after baht. I don't think they care what the nationality was of the person previously holding the cash.
I'm looking for a 1 bedroom apartment between Soi 4 and Soi 24 for less than 20,000 baht a month.
Any recommendation?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Just a thought: there's a Bangkok Craigslist.
I am in my early 50's and I have no trouble snagging smoking hot young chicks at Climax or Q Bar or Scratch Dog. That's because most of the girls at Climax are looking for business and couldn't care less about your age.
I do have trouble at places like Narcissus, Glow, and RCA. In general, if the majority of male customers are young Thai men. Us old farangs are fucked. Because most of the women are not hookers.
I didn't check out any of the places above. Last time in BKK I found the Soi 11 club scene preposterously overpriced, so I avoided it this time around. I went to Glow last year, and it was full of old guys and not that many not particularly attractive girls.
There was one girl going to Climax though (apparently that's the spelling?) that I chatted up on soi 7 that was smoking... outstanding.
I can only imagine her opening price would be along Russian lines - basically 100USD or more for short time. No thanks.
There are some younger farang males at RCA, but yes, it's a normal disco scene, no hookers there. So if you can't get them without your wallet, you're not going to get them.
I searched the threads but didn't find the answer I was looking for. How easy is it to barfine a bg that I really like for a period of one week or longer? Also I live in Japan is it possible for me to barfine her or negotiate for her to stay with me for up to 3 months? Maybe someone has some experience with this?
Assuming she can get a passport and visa. Just wondering because from my experience in PI its mainly an issue of paying the right price and getting all of her documents for passport and visa.
Traveler1234
03-05-10, 16:30
Easy answer ---------- the phone companies realise that most tourists do not return within two months so they want you to lose any credit on the Sim card and force you to buy a new one, yet another Thai scam.
Not always the case, if you top off with B$300, my card is extended for one year. I've pretty much stopped using the same prepaid account for obvious reasons so things might have changed in the past year. Prior to 2009, in other countries, it varies with network provider but some examples:
Vietnam - the worse, few months max
China - up to one year
HK - up to one year
Singapore - up to one year
Indonesia - 3-6 months
Maybe somebody can provide more up-to-date information.
Of the number of people who buy these cards, the percentage who are tourists is probably a small fraction of 1%. It doen't really make sense that they would set it up that way specifically to sting tourists.Exactly. They're just designed to keep everyone topping up.
I'm kind of fascinated by tourist paranoia. Amazing these guys even keep coming to Thailand, feeling targeted by anti-farang conspiracies every minute of every day.
I've found that if I'm able to negotiate down do 1500 (I have about 75% success,but feels like pulling teeth sometimes), they will usually only want to go to a short time room close by, which adds another 300 baht to the total. 2300-2400 baht ST
This is pretty funny. So basically if you bargain hard to get them down to 1500, then you end up paying 300 more anyway for the ST room... (and I wonder if they get a cut of that??? no idea, just speculating) So the best you can hope to get them down is really to 1800, and if you do, you're in a damn ST room rather than your own hotel room. Might as well pay the 2000 and have them in your hotel. You also save the work and annoyance of the bargaining.
I searched the threads but didn't find the answer I was looking for. How easy is it to barfine a bg that I really like for a period of one week or longer? Also I live in Japan is it possible for me to barfine her or negotiate for her to stay with me for up to 3 months? Maybe someone has some experience with this?
Assuming she can get a passport and visa. Just wondering because from my experience in PI its mainly an issue of paying the right price and getting all of her documents for passport and visa.
I think it is quite unusual to bar fine a girl for 3 months.
Are you sure?
Lots of people recommend to bar fine a girl for a package of 3-4 nights.
What do you do if you get bored of her?how was your experience with the PI?
Stiffoak 571
03-05-10, 18:43
Save on barfines: just back from evening out down Cowboy.
Went into Thermae on way back about 200 girls in some really good lookers.
Also a few random girls in Gullivers soi 5.
This is pretty funny. So basically if you bargain hard to get them down to 1500, then you end up paying 300 more anyway for the ST room... (and I wonder if they get a cut of that??? no idea, just speculating) So the best you can hope to get them down is really to 1800, and if you do, you're in a damn ST room rather than your own hotel room. Might as well pay the 2000 and have them in your hotel. You also save the work and annoyance of the bargaining.I've been told the girls get 40 Baht if they are out before an hour - not sure if they get other commission too
I searched the threads but didn't find the answer I was looking for. How easy is it to barfine a bg that I really like for a period of one week or longer? Also I live in Japan is it possible for me to barfine her or negotiate for her to stay with me for up to 3 months? Maybe someone has some experience with this?
Assuming she can get a passport and visa. Just wondering because from my experience in PI its mainly an issue of paying the right price and getting all of her documents for passport and visa.Anything is possible in Thailand when there is money involved. A long term "barfine" probably depends on if she likes you or not, whether her deal with her employer allows an absence, and if there are sponsors in the picture that may be coming back to BKK soon.
A lot of bargirls welcome the chance for a steady income with less of the hustle. Taking her back to Japan might be problematic, though, as I have found that bargirls do not do that well on extended holidays outside of Thailand. They miss spicy food, especially som tam, and they miss Thai soap operas.
I bet you could find a girl who works at a club on Soi Thaniya in Silom who would jump at the opportunity. There's probably women working there who have previously spent time in Japan. Plus, some of the prettiest girls in Bangkok can be found on Soi Thaniya.
Not always the case, if you top off with B$300, my card is extended for one year. I've pretty much stopped using the same prepaid account for obvious reasons so things might have changed in the past year. Prior to 2009, in other countries, it varies with network provider but some examples:
Vietnam - the worse, few months max
China - up to one year
HK - up to one year
Singapore - up to one year
Indonesia - 3-6 months
Maybe somebody can provide more up-to-date information.The trick is to always top up by 300B (not 50B or 100B at a time) as this gives you more expiry time for your buck on a pro-rata basis (300B will give you much more time to expiry in 1 hit than 6 separate 50B top ups or 3 separate 100B top-ups).
Do it so that your account expires only after your next probable visit..have had my number on 12call for last 3 years (ok I come here every 6 months and only need to top-up 300B each time and my expiry date is already Feb 2011). Don't worry if you are not able to use it all, at least you don't lose it and can use it at your next visit (just like any remaining credit on your BTS pass).
And I find it practical to keep the same SIM card (no need to buy a new one each time which costs extra) and my regular FL contacts know it's me calling them up (no hassle for them to update for your new number each time you turn up).
Member #3428
03-05-10, 21:42
I searched the threads but didn't find the answer I was looking for. How easy is it to barfine a bg that I really like for a period of one week or longer? Also I live in Japan is it possible for me to barfine her or negotiate for her to stay with me for up to 3 months? Maybe someone has some experience with this?
Assuming she can get a passport and visa. Just wondering because from my experience in PI its mainly an issue of paying the right price and getting all of her documents for passport and visa.
Japan visa for a thai girl especially a bar girl is almost impossible.
if you bar fine her long time just have her stop work. she can always get rehired.
I used to use the True SIM cards from 7-11, but they send you tons of spam texts every day (I literally received four spam texts per day from them for a whole month). I didn't know how to opt out of any of that, so I switched to DTAC/Happy.
These are also available from 7-11, no spam texts, and what's more, when I was leaving this time, I went to the DTAC office in Central World and had a pretty young lady extend the validity of the card for six months. I just told her that I will be out of the country for 4 months, she blippy-blopped on her keyboard, and my card was extended for six months. She said I could come back closer to the expiration date and extend it again, no worries. Didn't know that I could extend it myself, so that's good to know.
The idea that you must be younger than 35 to snag a looker at Climax is incorrect, IMHO. I think it definitely helps if you are good looking, but not a deal breaker if you are not.
Some observations from various nights at Climax:
1. I watched this young, attractive, athletic white guy with a full head of hair bounce from girl to girl getting rejected at every stop for over 2 hours. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong, but it wasn't working for him. I suspect he was asking them straight out if they do anal or something like that, so maybe he was ok with all the rejection. He eventually hooked up with a hag of a girl. I saw him at Climax on multiple nights, and he was having a tough time each of those nights.
2. There is a regular guy there (maybe a member of this forum?) who dresses in a suit, does the super humble wai to all the girls, and seems to be just a very happy soul. He is easily into his mid-50s, not particularly athletic, neither good- nor bad-looking, but seems to be willing and eager to have a good time. I have seen him there on many occasions over the last year or so, and he must be catching some poontang or else he would not return as often as he does.
3. I bumped into a balding early-50s American who was an asshole of the highest order. He didn't give anyone (including me) the time of day, he was looking at all the girls like he was undressing them mentally, seemed like a true slime ball. But here too, he was successful - he seemed to have money, and that was all that mattered.
So here we have one case of a young, good-looking guy who has a hard time, and two cases of somewhat older, not so good-looking guys who are finding success.
Several girls have told me the following. They are looking for a money-making experience, with some good sex, with someone who is not going to rip their vaginas to pieces. So they want sensual sex with a generous man. Often, the young guns are overly aggressive in their love making, end before the girl does, and then because they are young and are using their student loans to pay for this trip to BKK, they are thrifty with their tips. Older guys are often (not always) more in-tuned to the girl, are less vigorous, and often (not always) pay more at the end.
I think the sweet spot for these girls are guys in their mid-late thirties. These people have the looks still, they have enough money, and they are decent love makers. And of course, this is just my opinion.
I used to use the True SIM cards from 7-11, but they send you tons of spam texts every day (I literally received four spam texts per day from them for a whole month). I didn't know how to opt out of any of that, so I switched to DTAC/Happy.
These are also available from 7-11, no spam texts, and what's more, when I was leaving this time, I went to the DTAC office in Central World and had a pretty young lady extend the validity of the card for six months. I just told her that I will be out of the country for 4 months, she blippy-blopped on her keyboard, and my card was extended for six months. She said I could come back closer to the expiration date and extend it again, no worries. Didn't know that I could extend it myself, so that's good to know.Yes that also works with DTAC - downside though is that the pretty young lady forgot to mention that the cost per minute is now much higher than before (possibly double) to compensate for the longer expiry date (a fellow monger did it over the phone a couple of years ago and got explained the whole deal).
Conclusion - as with FL, no such thing as a free lunch..
Another thing to be aware with DTAC is that coverage is not as widespread as with say 12-call if you venture in some remote rural areas (e.g. 1-2 hours out of Chiang Mai)
Payforplaybkk
03-06-10, 09:32
Last year I joined Soprano House. Which is a "G Club" on Soi 26 off Sukhumvit. For those unfamiliar with these types of venues, they are pricey membership clubs where you pay anywhere from 20-30, 000 baht for a set number of bottles (e. G., whiskey, vodka) or beers and additionally pay for time to talk to some very beautiful women. Many are university educated and a lot of fun to party with. They'll pour your drink for you, cuddle, laugh, and make sure you have a fun evening. What you most likely won't get is sex. There's no barfine and from my experience most of these women aren't looking to hook up. However, management does encourage the girls to develop a rapport with you so you'll come back, so getting phone numbers is easy and some of the women will agree to dinner or time at MBK. How you play it from there depends on you and the woman in question. I've gone out with women where it was clear she did so only to make sure I returned to the club so she could make money. I've also developed a genuine romance with a girl last year at Soprano who saw me on nights off and we would go out drinking, dancing, making out, doing hookah, etc. If I were here long enough it could have developed much further. If you're in Thailand for a bit, have disposable income, like to party, want to meet more upscale type of women, and enjoy "the chase" then this type of venue is great for you. Soprano House in particular is very upscale, lush, has an amazing live band, a great DJ. You feel like a million bucks inside.
I'm posting today to give you a sense of my latest experience at Soprano and a warning about how quickly your wallet can get drained. I had to get another membership because the one I had last year dried up. I paid 30, 000 baht and got 100 beers. Divided into 50 beers for me and 50 lady drinks. Soprano has a formula that deducts lady drinks when a girl sits with you. In a typical evening you'll go through about 10 or so. Getting a beer membership is actually a bad call. It's much better to get hard liquor which drains much slower. I had a 20, 000 baht membership at Carribbean that lasted 20 visits and I ended up just paying out the lady time (usually 4500-6000 baht per visit). At Soprano, I figured that I'd get about 5 great nights for my 30, 000 membership roughly $200 USD per visit.
I ended up only getting 3 visits in this time before blowing through 30, 000 baht! Over 3 nights I had about 25 beers (so I have a balance there), but 50 lady drinks went fast. I would guess I spent about 8+ hours with this one girl. She was hands down the best girl I have met at these places. Beautiful, fun, great dancer, and once she gets drunk could not stop french kissing me, which has never happened to me inside these places before and something I haven't observed with others. I'm not sure if it's because she actually likes me. But it's highly unusual.
While the girl was amazing, the value I got back was pretty bad. And I was disappointed with the management in several areas: 1) they overcounted the number of beers I had. Which I had to point out, 2) sometimes when they pour your beer they won't give you the leftover in the bottle, 3) I'm convinced they do not properly tabulate lady time. And you're usually too drunk by the end of the night to know what you're signing, 4) women will come by often to pester you for drinks. Which I find unique to Soprano, 5) extra charges are usually not explained in advance. I was charged for an entire extra hookah (500 baht) when I asked for new coals.
The point is: you have to be really careful. While I was really floored this time by the quality of women at Soprano (e. G., one woman I briefly spoke with had just joined 3 days ago. She was stunning, sweet, cultured and described how she just toured several countries in Asia), I didn't like how the management behaved and I especially felt I got pretty ripped off for 30, 000 baht. If you do want to venture into the "G Club" world, I highly recommend you get a hard liquor bottle membership at the 20, 000 baht level, ask for lady drink charges to be clearly explained, record mentally the time you begin and end with a woman, and make sure you examine the bill very closely. While I used to be a big fan of these places, this recent experience at Soprano House has soured me from visiting these types of venues in the future.
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Several girls have told me the following. They are looking for a money-making experience, with some good sex, with someone who is not going to rip their vaginas to pieces. So they want sensual sex with a generous man. Often, the young guns are overly aggressive in their love making, end before the girl does, and then because they are young and are using their student loans to pay for this trip to BKK, they are thrifty with their tips. Older guys are often (not always) more in-tuned to the girl, are less vigorous, and often (not always) pay more at the end.
I'm in my 20s and have had mixed experiences with the reactions to my youth. But it's always kind of a nice moment when the girl tells me how old she is (twenty whatever) and then asks me and I'm in my 20s too. It's almost like we have a little bond and we're on the same team.
At times I'll go into a bar and all the girls will be gawking at me and then competing over me rather shamelessly while I'll look around and every other guy in the place will be 50 and slightly haggard and sitting alone. I guess this makes sense since there are so many more guys in their 50s than guys in their 20s that the girls probably get tired of it. A couple girls have asked me why I don't have a huge belly, like they thought that was standard issue for farangs. Also once a girl looked around a place and pointed at the different guys and told me what she would charge them. No big surprise, but the older and nicer dressed a guy was, the higher the fee she would ask.
Other times in other places it will feel like the girls are avoiding me in favor of the older guys, the reasons I assume being that the older guys will not have much sex energy and will mostly just want to talk and then soon fall asleep, they won't wear out their vaginas, and they'll be more likely to overpay and/or get into some kind of a sponsor situation.
In other countries I've gone to I'll be able to walk into a freelancer mongering joint and with my age I'll have the hottest girls offering themselves to me at reduced prices. In Thailand it's more of a mixed bag. Thai girls are often professional and heavily focused on making money, so they'll just go with anyone who's willing to pay.
In regards to the lovemaking style, there's been a lot of girls who have been completely unresponsive to me trying to fuck them lovingly and sensually, at which point I've said to myself "fine, if she doesn't want the love then I'll fuck her hard like a *****", only for them to respond very favorably.
Girls like it many different ways.
I think it is quite unusual to bar fine a girl for 3 months.
Are you sure?
Lots of people recommend to bar fine a girl for a package of 3-4 nights.
What do you do if you get bored of her?how was your experience with the PI?Um yea I'm willing to give it a try at least if I do get bored of her then I'll gladly pay for her ticket home. This would more than likely be after spending at least a week together in Thailand so I can be sure.
I love PI but I'm am starting to get the label "butterfly" at some of the bars in Angeles city so I decided to take a break. As far as the GFE experience goes I don't think anyone compares to filipinas especially in AC. P4P in Manila is more similar to BKK and P4P in AC is more like Pattaya. I mean this more in terms of when you pay for LT the pinays in AC will stay almost until its time to go back to work at the bar the next day. I know some guys want the girl out the door as soon as it is time to go to sleep but I actually prefer she stay at least until after breakfast.
Last month I decided to check Quezon City out against the recommendation of seveal taxi drivers and reviews of the area. It has it pluses and minuses. Staying in Quezon city doesn't have to be expensive unless you want it to B. I stayed at Great Eastern hotel off of Quezon Ave and it was reasonably priced at 1800 php and the quality was on par with Ermita and AC hotels. As far as P4P goes that is mainly for streat walkers along Quezon Ave. The show girl bars like Stardust, You and Me (the name actualy changed but if you ask where "You and Me" is they point almost directly across to the street to a place called Castle), Mystique, La Legende, and the flagship bar Pegasus. You are not going to easily get a girl out of any of the bars unless you invest some time and money on the girl by buying her drinks and food. Even after that the mamasan will tell you on your second or third trip you may have the possibility of taking the girl out for 3 hours at about 5, 000 php not including her tip. Only a handful of the bars offer VIP room services at 5, 000 for one hour. Supposedly you can do anything you want with the girl. I never tried as this is not my style. If I were interested in an actual gf from PI this would be the place I would look. The girls in this area are considered the prettiest in Manila and AC and this is suppose to be a popular Japanese tourist spot. I didn't see any Japanese guys while I was there but then again maybe they were in the VIP rooms. The main difference I noticed between these girls and girls in Ermita or AC is they are lighter in complexion, most graduated high school and some college at least, and come from middle class families.
My experience at the show bars on Quezon was similar to my experience at the larger establishments on fields ave at places like Atlantis, Club Asia, or Icarius where the girls are quick to cop an attitude or refuse seeing a customer if they don't like you. And some of the girls are there solely to get drinks and talk very similar to the Japanese bar system.
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Well, I was mongering in Bangkok and Asia from my early 20's all the way through the 30's. And not going to say anymore on age.
Different girls like different things. Same as different men like different girls.
You will, in Thailand, generally find the pushy loud mouthed "I am better than you" girls will go for the young guy. Its like a trophey to them to stick the middle finger up at the other girls to say they can pull a young guy. They more often than not do not like the young guy and will go out of their way to get drunk or other things to avoid the sex, but its not about the sex, its all about showing off to the other girls.
Women naturally like older men, they find them more caring, more money in the wallet, more sensual, less selfish and generally all round much better for them.
Men naturally like younger girls as it gives them a confidence boost, they want to feel young and like a stallion.
So it fits.
I get many more freebies now than I did in my 20's, it might be down to the liberation of attitudes though, so what was then is not comparable to a much more liberal and open internet/open media/free travel age we have upon us now.
I'm in my 20s and have had mixed experiences with the girls reactions to my youth.
At times I'll go into a bar and all the girls will be gawking at me and then competing over me rather shamelessly while I'll look around and every other guy in the place will be 50 and slightly haggard and sitting alone. I guess this makes sense since there are so many more guys in their 50s than guys in their 20s that the girls probably get tired of it. A couple girls have asked me why I don't have a huge belly, like they thought that was standard issue for farangs. Also once a girl looked around a place and pointed at the different guys and told me what she would charge them. No big surprise, but the older and nicer dressed a guy was, the higher the fee she would ask.
Other times in other places it will feel like the girls are avoiding me in favor of the older guys, the reasons I assume being that the older guys will not have much sex energy and will mostly just want to talk and then soon fall asleep, they won't wear out their vaginas, and they'll be more likely to overpay and/or get into some kind of a sponsor situation.
In other countries I've gone to I'll be able to walk into a freelancer mongering joint and with my age I'll have the hottest girls offering themselves to me at reduced prices. In Thailand it's more of a mixed bag. Thai girls are often professional and heavily focused on making money, so they'll just go with anyone who's willing to pay.
In regards to the lovemaking style, there's been a lot of girls who have been completely unresponsive to me trying to fuck them lovingly and sensually, at which point I've said to myself "fine, if she doesn't want the love then I'll fuck her hard like a *****", only for them to respond very favorably.
Girls like it many different ways.
There is a regular guy there (maybe a member of this forum?) who dresses in a suit, does the super humble wai to all the girlsWell I hope while he's at it that he wais the toilet attendant, and the soi dogs on his way out.
But here too, he was successful - he seemed to have money, and that was all that mattered.For better or worse in places like Climax these days, that's all that does. Young guys, handsome guys, charming guys, guys who speak Thai like natives . . . well, they might get thrown an extra bone every once in a while, but if they expect much more than that, they're delusional.
When to Midnight in Soi Cowboy last night.
I like Midnight because I think they have the prettiest girls that get naked on stage. In my opinion, Tilac, Sharks, and Baccara have the most beautiful women but they keep their clothes on at those 3 places.
Let me give you three warnings about Midnight though.
1. They have girls dressed up as Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders that do NOT fuck. They only job is to get you to buy them as many lady drinks as possible. You cannot bar fine them and they don't fuck. These twats, however, don't tell you that until you've already spent a few hundred baht on them. Avoid the cheerleaders.
2. They put on a 'show' at Midnight but it isn't anything more than 8-10 of their best girls dressed up in little bikinis strutting down the runway and then taking off their clothes. The problem is that most of those girls in the show are ladyboys so be careful. The girl that I was sitting with told me that four of the girls on stage were ladyboys. Three were obvious to me but damned if I could have picked out the fourth one. Danger!
3. The mama-sans at Midnight — which are old, well past their prime ex-dancers —- pester the customers to hurry up and choose a girl. I don't appreciate the pressure. I'll buy some twat when I'm good and ready so leave me alone, you fucking hag.
disagree with almost your entire post pro.
you will, in thailand, generally find the pushy loud mouthed "i am better than you" girls will go for the young guy. its like a trophey to them to stick the middle finger up at the other girls to say they can pull a young guy. they more often than not do not like the young guy and will go out of their way to get drunk or other things to avoid the sex, but its not about the sex, its all about showing off to the other girls.
i haven't experienced this at all. i find that the pushy loud mouthed girls more often are looking to brag about having some old rich guy who doesn't even fuck her and just wants to take her shopping and buy her handbags and shoes all day.
a few times i did feel like i was being used to show off to the other girls a little bit, but the girl wasn't pushy or loud mouthed.
women naturally like older men, they find them more caring, more money in the wallet, more sensual, less selfish and generally all round much better for them.
they like men who are maybe 5 years older, or at the most 10. anything much over that and it's solely about money or maybe creepy [CodeWord129] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord129) desires she has for her father.
men naturally like younger girls as it gives them a confidence boost, they want to feel young and like a stallion..
that's not why i like younger girls. i'm attracted to their lack of jadedness, their innocence, their girlish energy and emotionality.
It's all just a business deal.
If you are well groomed, clean shaved, freshly showered, physically fit, wear nice clothes, use a pleasant smelling after shave or colonge, keep your breath smelling sweet, carry yourself with confidence, treat the girls with enough respect so that they feel good about themselves, and aren't a blatant cheap charlie you will have no problem pulling even the most delectable girls unless you are in your seventies.
You will still pull if you meet the above criteria even if you are 100, but you might have to take a girl who is 25 or 30 instead of a nineteen year old, but you can still pull a beautiful and very sexy girl.
You wouldn't want to take home a stinky, filthy, dumpy slattern. The girls are going to angle for the most return on their investment. If you are older but make yourself attractive you will beat out a young, sloppy, smelly, drunken creep almost every time.
I used to use the True SIM cards from 7-11, but they send you tons of spam texts every day (I literally received four spam texts per day from them for a whole month). I didn't know how to opt out of any of that, so I switched to DTAC/Happy.
Had the same problem with AIS. Opting out is pretty easy. Either call their hotline or look for a phone menu item called "AIS/DTAC/TRUE services" or something like that. Confirm that you want to unsubscribe to their "info" (SPAM) service and you're done!
Tony Hoeprano
03-07-10, 10:03
The idea that you must be younger than 35 to snag a looker at Climax is incorrect, IMHO. I think it definitely helps if you are good looking, but not a deal breaker if you are not.
Some observations from various nights at Climax:
1. I watched this young, attractive, athletic white guy with a full head of hair bounce from girl to girl getting rejected at every stop for over 2 hours. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong, but it wasn't working for him. I suspect he was asking them straight out if they do anal or something like that, so maybe he was ok with all the rejection. He eventually hooked up with a hag of a girl. I saw him at Climax on multiple nights, and he was having a tough time each of those nights.
2. There is a regular guy there (maybe a member of this forum?) who dresses in a suit, does the super humble wai to all the girls, and seems to be just a very happy soul. He is easily into his mid-50s, not particularly athletic, neither good- nor bad-looking, but seems to be willing and eager to have a good time. I have seen him there on many occasions over the last year or so, and he must be catching some poontang or else he would not return as often as he does.
3. I bumped into a balding early-50s American who was an asshole of the highest order. He didn't give anyone (including me) the time of day, he was looking at all the girls like he was undressing them mentally, seemed like a true slime ball. But here too, he was successful - he seemed to have money, and that was all that mattered.
So here we have one case of a young, good-looking guy who has a hard time, and two cases of somewhat older, not so good-looking guys who are finding success.
Several girls have told me the following. They are looking for a money-making experience, with some good sex, with someone who is not going to rip their vaginas to pieces. So they want sensual sex with a generous man. Often, the young guns are overly aggressive in their love making, end before the girl does, and then because they are young and are using their student loans to pay for this trip to BKK, they are thrifty with their tips. Older guys are often (not always) more in-tuned to the girl, are less vigorous, and often (not always) pay more at the end.
I think the sweet spot for these girls are guys in their mid-late thirties. These people have the looks still, they have enough money, and they are decent love makers. And of course, this is just my opinion.I been to Climax one time, it was right across the street where I was staying and I decided to check it out. I was not impressed with the talent at all, maybe it was a bad night. I talked to one gal, she was ok looking, a bit better than average actually, but was distant, so I decided to stop talking to her. I didn't leave the area I simply ignored her. A few minutes later she ordered a beer and expected me to pay for it. I told the waitress I wasn't with her, to pay it herself.
I end up picking up a gal, she almost looked like Lucy Loo, but a petite version. When the sex started, her vagina started to stink so I finished up fast. I didn't bother banging her in the morning, but she did offer.
I echo the sentiments of Evianist, I'm quite young looking and some of the places on Soi Cowboy, most notably, Baccarra, the girls there didn't pay me much attention. A few girls would come up and say hello, but they were uninterested from the get go. I guess my suave and debonair looks didn't swoon them LOL. I did however have a pretty wild time upstairs at Dollhouse, I was going to BF 2 girls, but I already finished some business earlier and if I were to BF 2 girls, I would've wanted to have all bullets in the chamber, so to speak.
Tony Hoeprano
03-07-10, 10:22
Hello all,
Does anyone have any luck scoring at places like RCA and the Siam shopping centers? I enjoy the chase, but with limited knowledge of the Thai language, i felt I was truly at a disadvantage. Although, someone said the particular venue where I was at was not so good. I did manage to score a freebie at afterhours club underneath the Windsnor Hotel. I forget the name of it, Scratchhouse? There were many nice looking girls there.
Some other places I enjoyed, a very sexy darker girl from one of those so called legit massage places, with nail and laundry service. She looked almost like Beyonce in the face. Unfortunately, she had a few stretch marks but nothing too bad, the body was bangin. On a sad note, i looked through her pics on her cell phone and as she went through them, there was a picture of her son. She flipped quickly through it, not even acknowledging the little guy. Her English was terrible and I quickly tired of her.
Went to Akane, Best Massage, and Teen Massage (all on Soi 33) and had great experiences at all 3 of them. The first place I visited was Best Massage the first day I arrived and picked 2 girls and the experience was incredible. both gave BBBJ, DFK, and FS. One of the gals I chose, I think she was close to 30 but had an incredible body and incredible amount of sex appeal. She was working the register when i walked in.
Akane Spa is great, it says FS is not on the menu, but if you get a naughty girl, it is. :)
Mango spa on Soi 24 is another place that I would highly recommend. Most of the girls there were quite nice.
The idea that you must be younger than 35 to snag a looker at Climax is incorrect, IMHO. I think it definitely helps if you are good looking, but not a deal breaker if you are not.
Some observations from various nights at Climax:
1. I watched this young, attractive, athletic white guy with a full head of hair bounce from girl to girl getting rejected at every stop for over 2 hours. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong, but it wasn't working for him. I suspect he was asking them straight out if they do anal or something like that, so maybe he was ok with all the rejection. He eventually hooked up with a hag of a girl. I saw him at Climax on multiple nights, and he was having a tough time each of those nights.
2. There is a regular guy there (maybe a member of this forum?) who dresses in a suit, does the super humble wai to all the girls, and seems to be just a very happy soul. He is easily into his mid-50s, not particularly athletic, neither good- nor bad-looking, but seems to be willing and eager to have a good time. I have seen him there on many occasions over the last year or so, and he must be catching some poontang or else he would not return as often as he does.
3. I bumped into a balding early-50s American who was an asshole of the highest order. He didn't give anyone (including me) the time of day, he was looking at all the girls like he was undressing them mentally, seemed like a true slime ball. But here too, he was successful - he seemed to have money, and that was all that mattered.
So here we have one case of a young, good-looking guy who has a hard time, and two cases of somewhat older, not so good-looking guys who are finding success.
Several girls have told me the following. They are looking for a money-making experience, with some good sex, with someone who is not going to rip their vaginas to pieces. So they want sensual sex with a generous man. Often, the young guns are overly aggressive in their love making, end before the girl does, and then because they are young and are using their student loans to pay for this trip to BKK, they are thrifty with their tips. Older guys are often (not always) more in-tuned to the girl, are less vigorous, and often (not always) pay more at the end.
I think the sweet spot for these girls are guys in their mid-late thirties. These people have the looks still, they have enough money, and they are decent love makers. And of course, this is just my opinion.
I wouldn't disagree with that assessment, and it often extends to non pros, especially in non First World countries.
At that age, you hopefully have some disposable income, you have learned to fuck better and with a bigger repertoire than the Energizer Bunny and you still look fairly good - meaning - you do NOT look like her father!
while we're at it, I think a good case can be made for early thirties being a woman's sexual jackpot. The horniest and best encounters I've had often come from this age group.
when i arrived at soi 3 it was 9.30 p.m. there was a need for a decent hotel should be very easy to locate and should be easy for car parking. because i don’t want my business counter part face any hassles to find me on the next morning.
so i booked my room just over the road (forget the name, guessing arab operated) bht1100 per night. i requested to front desk please send my staffs to the room or i’l pick up those when i enter in my room. he agreed. yeah i’m not entering in my room right now, let me explore the soi(s) first.
went to anny (report submitted on the respective forum) after that nep, then walking walking and walking. couple of beers, watching the free lancers but failed to find any one for my fancy. while crossing “hotel grace” certainly a blash stopped my legs. do i know this thin girl, doing in her own? i returned back in front of the food stroll but she was not there. she was seated on the foot step of a tuk tuk eating her food minutely. when i arrived in front of her she just lift up her chin and made a smile to me. oh same smile, same movement, as same as my ex girl friend was. she pointed a girl inside the tuk tuk was seated and with a very clear english asked me “will u like to take her”? i answered no i want u.
throwing her food staff she stand up in front of me and asked ‘how much u like to pay, i take 1000 for st’. i was so determined not to loose her and asked for lt; she agreed for bht1500. it was a bit long walking to reach my hotel from there but i decided to continue. in the middle she asked how long i’m in the city but i didn’t answered. again the same question but with a close shout. peep peep.. a signal raised in my mind but i ignored.
in the room i found my staffs decently stored and i have nothing to loss. while i was making my self out of my dress i found she is sitting on the edge of the bed without any movement. i realized, with this girl, tonight will be an unfortunate night for me. immediately than she started begging to me no lt, she’v a headache, she want to go etc. etc. but i was so reluctant to keep her with me. finally she offered ok, only two times. again i disagreed with her (i don’t know how many times i will feel her, it depends). she break down on my bed, tomorrow she have examination, she have severe headache and started crying.
but i keep myself silent, just watching her how long she can go. certainly she stopped crying, pulled out the linen and went for the bath. i stopped myself and didn’t ask her should i join with her or not. after her i entered in the bathroom to wash my self and this was my first night in thailand washing myself alone in the bathroom. i thought everything has been settled down and was expecting the girl is now easy, as usual it would be. i never thought what a big surprise was waiting in the room. she was in her dress and with a big smile asked bye bye from me. i shouted loudly, u can not go i’v paid money to u. she just opened her bag pulled out and thrown the money on my bed.
she left me naked in the room as same as my ex-girl friend did several years ago.
She left me naked in the room as same as my ex-girl friend did several years ago.
That was probably what you wanted all along.
You will, in Thailand, generally find the pushy loud mouthed "I am better than you" girls will go for the young guy. Its like a trophey to them to stick the middle finger up at the other girls to say they can pull a young guy. They more often than not do not like the young guy and will go out of their way to get drunk or other things to avoid the sex, but its not about the sex, its all about showing off to the other girls.
Oh I forgot to add:
On occasion I like to use the "I got the young guy" bragging rights effect to do good. Sometimes I'll see one of the girls who I can tell probably doesn't get too much customer demand because maybe she's pretty average looking and/or doesn't have that cutthroat attitude, but she'll seem like a really good hearted girl so I'll barfine her almost just to be nice and give her the ego boost. She'll change into her street clothes and then come over to me looking proud and all the other girls will be staring at us really surprised and a couple of her friends will kind of cheer her on and she'll walk out with the biggest smile on her face.
Sometimes you gotta give back.
you can disagree all you like, i have been mongering in asia for 25 years, you have not.
when you have completed 25 years mongering and fucked over 2500 girls, then please tell us your findings based on your experience, not your "opinion".
disagree with almost your entire post pro.
i haven't experienced this at all. i find that the pushy loud mouthed girls more often are looking to brag about having some old rich guy who doesn't even fuck her and just wants to take her shopping and buy her handbags and shoes all day.
a few times i did feel like i was being used to show off to the other girls a little bit, but the girl wasn't pushy or loud mouthed.
they like men who are maybe 5 years older, or at the most 10. anything much over that and it's solely about money or maybe creepy [CodeWord129] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord129) desires she has for her father.
that's not why i like younger girls. i'm attracted to their lack of jadedness, their innocence, their girlish energy and emotionality.
Member #2041
03-07-10, 17:25
She left me naked in the room as same as my ex-girl friend did several years ago.
So what's the problem - you got the complete GFE treatment.
Sameer Good
03-07-10, 18:43
Mua, my sympathies are with you...
Member #2041 - ROTFLOL!! thats probably the funniest comment on this entire site!!
So what's the problem - you got the complete GFE treatment.
You can disagree all you like, I have been mongering in Asia for 25 years, you have not.
When you have completed 25 years mongering and fucked over 2500 girls, then please tell us your findings based on your experience, not your "opinion".
What a load of bullshit!
You can disagree all you like, I have been mongering in Asia for 25 years, you have not.
When you have completed 25 years mongering and fucked over 2500 girls, then please tell us your findings based on your experience, not your "opinion".
If you've been with 2500 women and you're still this clueless about them, you need to ask for a refund.
FreebieFan
03-08-10, 02:10
Hello all,
Does anyone have any luck scoring at places like RCA and the Siam shopping centers? I enjoy the chase, but with limited knowledge of the Thai language, i felt I was truly at a disadvantage. Although, someone said the particular venue where I was at was not so good. I did manage to score a freebie at afterhours club underneath the Windsnor Hotel. I forget the name of it, Scratchhouse? There were many nice looking girls there.Yes, I scored a freebie with a lady from Siam Paragon. She worked in an opticians. We met online and spent a few weeks chatting, then when I arrived she met me in my hotel. 5 minutes later in bed. Was fine and fun just as a " one off". Never saw her again.
Eddie Fred
03-08-10, 02:18
Any one around next week ?? flying out so anyone up 4 beet let me know.
FreebieFan
03-08-10, 05:06
I'm in my 20s and have had mixed experiences with the reactions to my youth. But it's always kind of a nice moment when the girl tells me how old she is (twenty whatever) and then asks me and I'm in my 20s too. It's almost like we have a little bond and we're on the same team.
At times I'll go into a bar and all the girls will be gawking at me and then competing over me rather shamelessly while I'll look around and every other guy in the place will be 50 and slightly haggard and sitting alone. I guess this makes sense since there are so many more guys in their 50s than guys in their 20s that the girls probably get tired of it. A couple girls have asked me why I don't have a huge belly, like they thought that was standard issue for farangs..This discussion has been repeated on many many boards before. When I was young and handsome (thats what my Mum said anyway!) and in my 20's I thought I could do no wrong and pulled most of what I looked at.
Now I'm in my 50's I have as much as I can handle. Recovery takes a little longer but I can still pull 3 ladies in 3 days (see recent BKK report).
I've sat in various bars and seen sad older lonely looking farangs with bellies (and no I don't have) but then I've seen odious young ones totally pissing off the girls by trying to be Jack The Lad.
At the end of the day, we're all out chasing, all trying, and all beleiving that we have an edge over the other punter, whatever his age group. The problem is that sometimes we beleive own own bullshit.
Bronx Prowler
03-08-10, 06:20
Is the Eden Club still open?
If you've been with 2500 women and you're still this clueless about them, you need to ask for a refund.
the biggest fault I'd find with your argument is not so much calendar age, but how you look, how you act, etc., and I think the age difference can easily stretch beyond 10, depending on the age of the girl, meaning the older she is, the older you can be.
for e.g. a fit non pot bellied 55 year old with at least a decent amount of hair left on his head and a youthful joi de vivre and energy to him is infinitely more attractive to a 25 year old for e.g. (or a woman of any age actually) than a guy who's 40, badly overweight and balding who also makes little effort to care for his appearance.
I see you made having a gut a big part of your post. Having one, or not, is not particularly age dependent.
(I don't want to rag on people losing hair, that's out of one's control, but you can make the effort to look the best you can depending on the amount you have left, even if it means shaving all of it off. However, if you shave it off, you better start working out a bit and keep a tan, There are few things less attractive than a skinny bald pale guy)
the extra wrinkle or two, or the extra grey hairs or two pale in comparison to the other far more serious aspects of a guy's presentability and attractiveness.
I'd dare say you may a harder time than you may think competing with a guy who's a decade older than you who's not any fatter or balder.
NicFrenchy
03-08-10, 17:01
You can disagree all you like, I have been mongering in Asia for 25 years, you have not.
When you have completed 25 years mongering and fucked over 2500 girls, then please tell us your findings based on your experience, not your "opinion".
There you go... when there are no real evidence to bring up.. our friend the Pro Pulls the "who's got the bigger dick?" card...
The Pro, having mongered 25 years and fucked 2500 ladies hardly makes you an expert... you're just an old fart with an opinion... just like everyone else here.
Recently I went for the first time to Patpong. I saw some comments on this place and was keeping an eye on my wallet. I took a walk through the night market and was surprised that the shop keepers and bar hookers are so much more aggressive than anywhere else in Bangkok while the offered items were the same as anywhere else in Bangkok (MBK, Sukhumvit, Suan Lum night bazaar)
After 30 minutes walking around I wanted to see a room with an AC and take a look of one of the famous shows and entered just one which seemed to be reliable. Of course these shows are not on the ground level and visible for the audience o the street. I went into the bar and even got a beer for 80 bht as it was promised while entering. The performance on the stage was just disgusting!
Elderly (40+), ugly, sad looking ladies with a fat bottom and hanging boobs were putting parts in their twat and shooting it around. I finished my beer in a minute and escaped alive.
After that experience I wanted just to have a beer in more peaceful place and entered next door which looked like a relaxed dancing bar. I do not have the name but it really looked like a place for guys who want just have a beer and want to dance to old fashioned music. I ordered a beer (99bht) and paid with 1000 bht note. After 5 minutes I was asking for my change and of course I did not get a change because the lady claimed that this was just 100bht. Some old story.
I am 100% sure that it was not 100bht because I realized just a minute before paying that I did not have any 100 bht notes anymore and I always keep my notes with high value in a different section of my wallet and I was not drunk at all. I was blaming the lady but nobody was interested in that. One of the foreigners in the bar even stood in the exit while I wanted to leave and I was really scared that he is going to beat me. I guess he was part of the game.
To make a long story short:
There is not any reason to go Patpong! It is just a rip-off!
Sukhumvit is much better in every meaning. Bars as well as street market!
Avoid Patpong!
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Gents
Here's a question that may or may not have come up here before. Not even sure how to be specific, but what I'm wondering is does anyone know where/how those guys from the popular western guy/thai girl amateur porn sites (creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, asianappleseed, asianchickswhitedicks, etc.) get their girls?
Subquestion - does anyone know how to get time with any of those girl, specifically? There are a few that I'd certainly be willing to spend some extra dough on, and it's kind of a thrill to meet a real porn star!
Cheers
-B-
Gents
Here's a question that may or may not have come up here before. Not even sure how to be specific, but what I'm wondering is does anyone know where/how those guys from the popular western guy/thai girl amateur porn sites (creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, asianappleseed, asianchickswhitedicks, etc.) get their girls?
Subquestion - does anyone know how to get time with any of those girl, specifically? There are a few that I'd certainly be willing to spend some extra dough on, and it's kind of a thrill to meet a real porn star!
Cheers
-B-
I've had 3 of the creampie/suckdolls gals in Pattaya. Two were gogo dancers, one just a freelancer. Pulled them in clubs for the standard freelancer rate (a bit more for one of them).
I don't know if they found them all in Pattaya.
M is my favorite by far, would love to find her.
Does anyone have any luck scoring at places like RCA and the Siam shopping centers?
I totally agree with you on the allure of the chase. As I roam through the shopping centers, I am always on the lookout for a potential target, but (i) it is harder than one would think given how easy sex is in other areas of Thai society, and (ii) such endeavors come with various other downsides which, now in retrospect, are not worth the effort. In my opinion, of course.
RCA is a great place to go if you want a regular nightclub experience. If you are a single farang male with little-to-no Thai skills looking to hook up that very night, I would say it is possible, but the chances are very, very slim - close to nonexistent.
I've been the RCA four times, each time with a group of semi-locals who knew how to act and where to go to be seen, and of those four times, I kind of hooked up on one occasion. And on that occasion, it was just pure dumb luck which facilitated it.
You see, you need what sociologists call 'a wedge'. A wedge is a device that is used to break the social ice. In RCA, you can't just go up to a girl and start chatting her up because she is unlikely to know enough English, and she will be under tremendous pressure because all her friends will be watching her. So it will likely be a cold, awkward conversation that ends very quickly.
The wedge I got on that one occasion when I kind of hooked up was when we were all dancing in a little nook on the side of some club in RCA and a couple of guys over to my right got into a disagreement. One of the guys got pissed off and stormed outta there, pushing people out of the way as he exited in a huff. As he passed, he shoved the girl in front of me hard, and her coke/rum spilled right onto my crotch. Funny, yah. Everyone started teasing her to not let that stop her from enjoying her drink (get it? The drink is all over my crotch...haha). So that gave me a wedge. We started talking, she asked me my name, I asked her where she was from, what does she do, etc. Eventually we swapped numbers, and the next day I texted her. Long story short: we met a couple of more times, made out once, and then it sort of fizzled.
Turning to shopping centers, I hooked up with a waitress at a restaurant at Central World. She was a gorgeous, sweet-smiled, long-legged shapely dark-skinned girl. She had eyes that just destroyed my self-control. The way I did it was just to go to eat there over and over again, gauging her interest. She started to smile at me after a while, and then every time I walked in I could hear her co-workers teasing her (with what I assumed was something like 'Your boy friend is here!). So I finally asked her out, and we went to watch a movie together.
We held hands, she smiled very sweetly, and I kissed her on the cheek goodnight. The next night we made out (got to second base), and on the third night we sealed the deal with an over-nighter in my hotel.
The sex was very high-schoolish - she was awkward and completely inexperienced. She tensed up from head to toe, making it hard for me to get my grope on. She orgasmed very easily, perhaps going through 10 cycles that first night. That's great, but it kept breaking my rhythm.
But the real problem was that her English was not all that good, and it was moving quickly toward a long-term serious relationship. So I had to put the kibosh on that asap.
Overall, I don't think I would pursue a 'real' girl unless she was just absolutely drop-dead once-in-a-lifetime gorgeous. I think the working girls are very sexy - you can find a super sexy girl with just a little patience. And perhaps more importantly, working girls don't come with the same kinds of social and emotional complications. That's my two bits.
You can disagree all you like, I have been mongering in Asia for 25 years, you have not.
When you have completed 25 years mongering and fucked over 2500 girls, then please tell us your findings based on your experience, not your "opinion".It's really rare to find someone so full of himself anf full-of-crap at the same time. I have been mongering in Thailand for over 45 years with over 4,000 girls, and you don't know squat!!
NicFrenchy
03-09-10, 01:55
does anyone know where/how those guys from the popular western guy/thai girl amateur porn sites (creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, asianappleseed, asianchickswhitedicks, etc.) get their girls?
They are very easy to find... just ask any good looking hooker, offer her some cash and she will do anything. They are in it for the money.
I think for these movie types they are paying them extra (so they agree to the camera), but I am not sure they are 100% aware about being featured in a pro website.
NicFrenchy
03-09-10, 02:05
Overall, I don't think I would pursue a 'real' girl unless she was just absolutely drop-dead once-in-a-lifetime gorgeous. I think the working girls are very sexy - you can find a super sexy girl with just a little patience. And perhaps more importantly, working girls don't come with the same kinds of social and emotional complications. That's my two bits.
Well, it certainly is not a very good idea for tourists to do what you did, I would then call it a BIG waste of time.
Playing the non prostitute dating game can be long and painful, and you aren't even certain to "seal the deal" (as you said earlier).
Good think that goes for expats is that as we are here, we have time, we are in no rush to sleep with the lady. The good thing is to work many at a time (just like the Thais do), take 6 or 7 girls out and maybe you'll get half of them to give away their pussies.
For a tourist, you can try the dating game but as it is long and sometimes unsuccessful, better also hit the bars and massage places to ensure you plant your seeds on a daily basis.
For Dating, one could also try DIA, TLL and set up dates from Farangland but these also can be a dead end...
Okay, sort of a selfish-lust imposed post.
Yes, read the forum (I'm done reading the forum and wish for recent remarks).
You walk into a bar of any kind with the intention of taking 3, 4, 5 hotties home or more.
It has happened, I'm guessing? There are crazy fools out there like me who would love this scenario.
Tell your story, give your advice, (politely, don't turn it into an argument).
I want to believe it's possible by hearing your input on this amazing scenario.
My fear is, the bad-news stories will over power the really good ones. So if it's bad keep it to a minimum, if you would, please.
Let's keep the fantasy alive and not kill it completely (though there are things to be aware of, I'm sure).
My selfish and wonderful hallucination. I've paid for 4 hot thai girls (decent price. Don't want to read a 1, 000 posts on the pennies you saved or were beaten out of), we are drinking in the hotel after dinner/dancing. Whatever and all-bliss pours out. Does anyone live this story? Could you pass on the amazing experience for the rest of us to at-least dream, if not recreate the hot scene for ourselves? Love the Olympics, and this would be a sort of gold medal of blissful happy sex, I would like to 'shoot' down the mountain for.
Gawd, Hope this is good!
Buca
Northern Axe
03-09-10, 05:29
Gents
Here's a question that may or may not have come up here before. Not even sure how to be specific, but what I'm wondering is does anyone know where/how those guys from the popular western guy/thai girl amateur porn sites (creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, asianappleseed, asianchickswhitedicks, etc.) get their girls?
Subquestion - does anyone know how to get time with any of those girl, specifically? There are a few that I'd certainly be willing to spend some extra dough on, and it's kind of a thrill to meet a real porn star!
Cheers
-B-Try Heaven Above, Soi Diamond off Walking Street. Many of the crampiethais / suckdolls come from there.
Subquestion - does anyone know how to get time with any of those girl, specifically? There are a few that I'd certainly be willing to spend some extra dough on, and it's kind of a thrill to meet a real porn star!
A guy on another forum did a search to locate "Tussinee" and found her. She's got a website (just google that name). Apparently she charges him 10,000. I think that's an exception (he's apparently loaded with cash and doesn't care, and also probably asks for certain services most of us wouldn't).
There's a magazine Asia After Dark that features a lot of the gogo girls, even identifies the bar they work in. So you'd jsut need to go down there and try to spot her. (they also have a site)
But tomorrow's porn star is today's regular go go girl, I don't think these girls are anything other than what's already out there and available to anyone.
Avoid Patpong!
I've also been ripped off upstairs. Just don't go to any of the upstairs bars. Downstairs it can still be fun. Bada-bing (new place opposite Electric Blue) is quite nice. At Thigh Bar I've had 2000baht all in (room+bar+girl) with a enthuastic little spinner a few months ago (offer from mamasan after I check bin). Just need to keep your guard up.
Good to know, thanks. Is there a charge to do this or is it a bi-annual freebie?
Last time I was in BKK my sim card had expired by about 1 month, so I stopped at the DTAC counter in the airport to see if there was anything they could do and they reactivated my number at no charge. All I had to do was put 100 baht on the phone. I don't know how long it takes for them to recycle a number, but if you have a sim that has expired fairly recently it might be worth a shot to see if it can be reactivated.
Sorry missed this.
I believe it was about 6 bhat to extend it by 6 months. Well worth it. Right now my sim is valid until mid March 2011.
A guy on another forum did a search to locate "Tussinee" and found her. She's got a website (just google that name). Apparently she charges him 10,000. I think that's an exception (he's apparently loaded with cash and doesn't care, and also probably asks for certain services most of us wouldn't).
There's a magazine Asia After Dark that features a lot of the gogo girls, even identifies the bar they work in. So you'd jsut need to go down there and try to spot her. (they also have a site)
But tomorrow's porn star is today's regular go go girl, I don't think these girls are anything other than what's already out there and available to anyone.
..guys for all the good tips. I'm in Bangkok now but will try in Pattaya next time and report on it.
Btw, I don't disagree with what you are saying about regular gogo girls...it's just a fetish of mine to do a girl that I have seen in movies already.
Cheers.
-B-
.it's just a fetish of mine to do a girl that I have seen in movies already.
Ah ok that's different then. As a guy with my own personal (but different) set of fetishes, I can definitely understand.
...You walk into a bar of any kind with the intention of taking 3, 4, 5 hotties home or more...Tell your story, give your advice, (politely, don't turn it into an argument)...My selfish and wonderful hallucination. I've paid for 4 hot thai girls (decent price. Don't want to read a 1, 000 posts on the pennies you saved or were beaten out of), we are drinking in the hotel after dinner/dancing. Whatever and all-bliss pours out. Does anyone live this story? ...Me and a buddy took four go-go girls home for christmas presents. We switched around a bit as the night went on.
Story here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=969688&postcount=8731
Could one guy take four? Sure, but you really only have so many hands...
Lately, this past week in fact, I've watched a guy at a Patpong beer bar take home four girls (and a ladyboy) multiple times. The rub here is that he's a crusty old drunk and can't get it up (he says and the girls say, too). But, the girls do get naked and he does something with them. The girls love him as he pays 2000 baht each and feeds them. Once the show is over they all sit around and watch HBO movies.
Anything is possible here in BKK if you have desire, energy, and most of all, money!
It's really rare to find someone so full of himself anf full-of-crap at the same time. I have been mongering in Thailand for over 45 years with over 4,000 girls, and you don't know squat!!
Well, I've been mongering in Thailand for over 200 years, and I've been with over 300,000 women. Can anyone top that?
Oh yes. I just there two days ago but did not see any big tits on duty.
I went there a few days ago and there were a few with gigantic tits, and several with medium to large. The only problem was, almost all the girls were horribly ugly...I mean like a 1 on the 1 to 10 scale. I think there were about 20 girls that I saw, 15 of whom were 1-2 range, and the other 5 in the 3-4 range max. Not a single good looking girl in the entire group, and I'm not that picky to begin with (caveat: one big tits girl was probably doable in a pinch, but I've seen better mama-sans in gogo's who have probably not been laid in 20+ years).
My friends and I chatted a bit with the manager who was clearly a self-righteous prick (despite our efforts to be friendly and considerate and build rapport, he basically said "pick the girls immediately or leave"...after less than 2 min in the place and despite his not having a single pretty girl on staff).
Really disappointing as I had read about this place quite a bit before and was looking forward to a new experience, but I can't see going back and suffering that intolerable French guy or his skank-ugly girls (no offense to them intended, I'm just talking about visual appearance and being frank).
-B-
Well, I've been mongering in Thailand for over 200 years, and I've been with over 300,000 women. Can anyone top that?
I'll do my best to beat that and report back when I celebrate my 200th birthday!
Well on the way to that target already
Mr Enternational
03-10-10, 14:42
I'm in Pattaya now and I'm supposed to go to Bangkok Friday evening after my dive, then I am headed back to the states late Saturday night/ early Sunday morning. My BKK gf is telling me not to go to Bangkok because there will be protests and demonstrations on Friday and she is worried I will not be able to get home the day after. I will not arrive in BKK until around 7pm Friday. What is the problem? Will I run into trouble (eg. traffic delays) en route there? Staying at the Grand Sukhumvit as usual.
I'm in Pattaya now and I'm supposed to go to Bangkok Friday evening after my dive, then I am headed back to the states late Saturday night/ early Sunday morning. My BKK gf is telling me not to go to Bangkok because there will be protests and demonstrations on Friday and she is worried I will not be able to get home the day after. I will not arrive in BKK until around 7pm Friday. What is the problem? Will I run into trouble (eg. traffic delays) en route there? Staying at the Grand Sukhumvit as usual.Mr Enternational,
Red Shirt demonstration. One again and again mentioned target is to shut down the traffic in Bangkok.
Nobody knows the outcome - I recommend NOT to come to BKK on Friday, to stay in Pattaya and go to the airport directly from there.
Giotto
I'll do my best to beat that and report back when I celebrate my 200th birthday!
Well on the way to that target alreadyYeah, 201 years, and just did my 300,001 yesterday! Undoubtedly will add to that total tomorrow.
Etaoin2003
03-11-10, 01:38
One again and again mentioned target is to shut down the traffic in Bangkok.
Shut down the traffic? How could you tell? :-)
Yeah, 201 years, and just did my 300,001 yesterday! Undoubtedly will add to that total tomorrow
... with this young cutie?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/10/antisa-khvichava-130-year_n_493592.html
:D
... Will I run into trouble (eg. traffic delays) en route there?
Red shirt rally sites are mentioned here:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/03/05/politics/March-12-most-worrying-day-30123994.html
That was probably what you wanted all along.
I'm not sure. How could u ?
Red shirt rally sites are mentioned here:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/03/05/politics/March-12-most-worrying-day-30123994.htmlHere's another map with additional detail...
http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en-GB&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.745054,100.555286&spn=0.086708,0.154324&z=13
Maybe we could ask them to put pins on it for soapies and oilies, too?
Maybe we could ask them to put pins on it for soapies and oilies, too?Hey guys,
Sorry for that silly question. What is the big difference between oilies and soapies. Of course I know the chemical difference between soap and oil. But is there also a difference in the provided technical things.
Nana Disco (Angel's) has apparently reopened as Nana Liquid Disco.
Anyone been there yet?
... with this young cutie?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/10/antisa-khvichava-130-year_n_493592.htmlShe is overage. Against the law. But if she has any great great great great granddaughters around.
Goyave,
Actually, if you watch the video and watch her throwing the dice and drinking vodka you'd think that she was probably quite a catch a century ago.
Nana Disco (Angel's) has apparently reopened as Nana Liquid Disco.
Anyone been there yet?
No but saw on another forum that someone had -- he said it was dead. No door charge though. They had a band. Few customers. No WG. It just opened though. We'll see what happens. It was something else in its day. Hope it has a second coming.
Nana Disco (Angel's) has apparently reopened as Nana Liquid Disco.
Anyone been there yet?
Entrance fee at 400 baht and beer at 150 baht. With Climax at 200 and other discos at about 300 I foresee a short life, especially if girls have to pay entrance too like first at Nana Disco.
Entrance fee at 400 baht and beer at 150 baht. With Climax at 200 and other discos at about 300 I foresee a short life, especially if girls have to pay entrance too like first at Nana Disco.
Those are the old prices.
I read it's free entrance now.
we all seem to visit generally the same places in bangkok. i was wondering if others could chime in on areas or places where we can find activities that are not on the beaten path (nana area, soi cowboy etc).
specifically:
1. bj bars other than star of light, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and the bj bars in soi cowboy
2. massage parlors starting at ekkamai bts going to on nut bts station
3. any other places that never get mentioned that you have been to
please be specific in location so others(like myself) can check them out.
showdown
It is free, drinks circa 130 for a tiger.
We all seem to visit generally the same places in Bangkok. I was wondering if others could chime in on areas or places where we can find activities that are not on the beaten path (Nana area, Soi Cowboy etc).
Many places are in fact mentioned on the forum. How about you do a search and make a list of what you find, and invite updates and corrections.
Those are the old prices.
I read it's free entrance now.
Yeah the guy who went there this past week definitely said there was no door fee. He did not mention how much a beer cost.
NicFrenchy
03-12-10, 12:08
Hey guys,
Sorry for that silly question. What is the big difference between oilies and soapies. Of course I know the chemical difference between soap and oil. But is there also a difference in the provided technical things.
MASSAGE PARLORS :Traditional Thai Massage
Pricing
1 hour = 200 THB
2 hours = 400 THB
Basically all the Massage places in Thailand will offer this Type of Massage.
You do not get a private room for this type of massage, just a common room with mattresses on the floor separated by curtains.
This is my favorite massage, the technique will amaze you!! They make every bones and joints in your body Crack!
You need to wear a Pajamas for this Massage, they will provide one for you.
Unless you go to a Hotel’s spa, at the end of the Thai Massage, 99% of the Time the Masseuse will ask you if you want the “Special Massage”
Special massage in a Thai Massage place consists of a HJ (Hand Job) and if you’re lucky a CBJ (Covered Blow Job).
HJ Special is THB 500 and CBJ is THB 1,000.
The girl will stay clothed during the Whole Session
MASSAGE PARLORS : Herbal Oil Massage
Pricing for Oil Massage:
1 hour = 400 THB
1.5 hours = 600 THB
2 hours = 800 THB
Pricing for Lotion Massage:
1 hour = 600 THB
1.5 hours = 800 THB
2 hours = 1000 THB
This is the carbon copy of what you call a Swedish Massage.
Except for the 5 star places, they will all use Baby Oil (which smells and is difficult to wash in the shower). Lotion Massage is an odorless body lotion that is very easy to clean and disappears in the shower once the massage is over.
Almost 100% of the Oil Massage Providers will offer you “Special Massage”
In about 75% of the Massage Places, Farangs will go there for the “Extras” (or Special Massage if you prefer). This is a little different than the Traditional Thai Massage Places.
For Traditional Thai Massage, the Providers are usually a little “Older” and you do not get to chose them.
In the case of Oil Massage, you are the one to chose your masseuse.
You can chose your girl “Live” by going to the Room where they all sit, or order from a Catalogue where you see all the Girls Pictures.
The Catalogue is for Japanese people, most of them would never walk in the room and face 20 girls (that’s 40 pairs of eyes staring at you)… they prefer to be discrete and look at the catalogue. The reason why looking at the catalogue is a bad idea is that all the girl’s pictures are heavily photoshoped. Best is to face them and see which ones you get vibes from (while some will smile and wave in your direction, others won’t even look at you).
Once you choose your girl, you can Order the time you want.
99% of the oil places will offer you a private room with in Room Shower
For this massage type, you need to take a shower in the Room prior and after the Massage.
Usually, the Girl comes in the shower with you and she washes you thoroughly (yes, she cleans you everywhere!) and then showers herself also.
Onto the bed she proceeds to massage you using the Oil, and for this massage, you are completely naked. After about 45 minutes of massage, she will ask if you want “Special Massage”.
Now this is different from Traditional Thai Massage, because you are in a private and Closed room, the Extras offered will be as Follows :
HJ Special is THB 500
CBJ or BBBJ is THB 1,000
FS is THB 1,500
(usually when you order FS, she will give you a BJ to start)
Once you “come”, the session is Over and back to the shower where she washes you again.
MASSAGE PARLORS : Body Soapy Massage
Now this is a very different scheme as the 2 massage types outlined above. While most massage places that offer Thai Massage will offer you Oil Massage, the ones that offer Soapy only deal with Soapy.
Pricing:
Pricing is a little complicated as every place has its own. Some Places only cater to Thais, some only to Japanese and some only to Farangs (non Asians). Though, most places will accept Foreigners but apply a fee (called Farang surcharge) which can go from THB 500 to 1,500 above the Thai Price.
Cheapest you can find is THB 1,800 for 1.5 hours and could go up to THB 6,500 (for “Models” or Freelancers).
Soapy Massage (also Called MP by the Local Farangs) has a very easy modus operandi….
Just walk into the MP and wait for the Papasan to approach you… you have 2 options :
a) look at the Fishbowl first
The Fishbowl is called a Fishbowl because the Room where the Girls sit is all glass so you can see them from everywhere…. Pretty much like an aquarium.
In some places, the girls cannot see you and in other places, it’s just a glass and they can see who comes in and out.
b) All the ladies have a number that they keep until they quit working for the Place… so if you like a certain lady, remember her number and ask the Papasan next time you visit and she will have the same number. Better, Book in advance to make sure she is working that day, and/or not busy with another customer.
Some places have 2 or even 3 different fishbowl, which means that the prices are different per Fishbowl (every girl in one FB is at the same price)
So you can have a Fishbowl @ THB 1,800, another @ THB 2,200 and a third one @ THB 2,800 (the most expensive it gets, the better the girls will look)…. Some places even offer you “Models” that have made covers of magazines… but they are expensive and quite Frankly “Starfish”.
Also, you sometimes have girls wandering outside of the FB, hanging out on a sofa…. These are Freelancers, they do not work for the Massage place and are not professionals… they can be your average supermarket Cashier trying to get some quick cash… they pay a hefty commission to the MP if they are chosen and are usually also quite expensive and not very good in bed.
c) Choose the lady (or Ladies… remember, you are paying so you can have as many ladies as you want at the same time).
d) The Papasan will quote you a price… (now be wary of these fuckers… some will try to scam you… basically, anything on top of the regular price goes right into his pocket). Also, he will “recommend” you ladies… (“take #45, very good”….) but he only pushes girls that will give him a kickback on the “Extras” Money…
e) Soapys (or MPs) usually always include the same Routine :
a. You get a bath with the girl naked in the bathtub washing you
everywhere
b. You are guaranteed a BBBJ in the tub and 99% of the ladies will let
you “come” in their mouth
c. After the bath, you move on to the bed where you receive an oil
Massage
NB : Some places have an inflatable mattress and offer a Full Body to Body Soapy experience (meaning that the girl will soap herself and wash you again with her tits and pussy by sliding all over your body)
Not All places have inflatable mattresses as it is quite rare.
d. After the massage, the lady will proceed to another BBBJ and then
have sex with you
e. After sex, back in the bathtub and she washes you again before
you leave
f) You need to leave a “tip” to the lady before you leave, the tip is up to you but usually ladies will expect nothing less than THB 500 (unless you did not like the session then you don’t have to tip).
Thai Ydiver
03-12-10, 13:05
Truer words have not been spoken.
Me and a buddy took four go-go girls home for christmas presents. We switched around a bit as the night went on.
Story here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=969688&postcount=8731
Could one guy take four? Sure, but you really only have so many hands...
Lately, this past week in fact, I've watched a guy at a Patpong beer bar take home four girls (and a ladyboy) multiple times. The rub here is that he's a crusty old drunk and can't get it up (he says and the girls say, too). But, the girls do get naked and he does something with them. The girls love him as he pays 2000 baht each and feeds them. Once the show is over they all sit around and watch HBO movies.
Anything is possible here in BKK if you have desire, energy, and most of all, money!
... most of them would never walk in the room and face 20 girls (that’s 40 pairs of eyes staring at you)… Nice to see this very informative report posted again here, but you forgot to edit that part. My personal tastes in girls are more conventional, as usually, the girls that I fancy have only one pair of eyes each! :D
Tourists in Bangkok and its immediate surrounds, are being warned to take extreme caution, give a lot more time to get to the airport, try and check-in 3 to 4 hours early and expect delays, closures and other inconveniences this coming weekend. 12. 14 March 2010.
In an email sent on Thursday, Andrew Wood, General Manager Chaophya Park Hotel & Resorts, long term resident of Thailand and Skal Int'l Councillor. Thailand, warned that, "it is fair to say that if you don't need to come to BKK it would be best to avoid it this weekend. "
The reason for such a serious warning, is that the political turmoil, which has been ongoing since the coup which threw Thaksin from power, has been simmering, gradually coming to a boil, and this weekend large demonstrations are planned in and around Bangkok.
It is just under two years ago that yellow shirt protestors closed the airports of Phuket, Krabi and Hat Yai before turning their attention to Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi airport with disastrous results for Thailand's image and travel industry.
Will there be trouble this weekend? It is impossible to say for sure, but a lot of companies throughout Bangkok have closed offices that would normally be open in areas where the demonstrations are likely to take place. Some airlines are opening their check-in counters as much as four hours in advance, major disruption is likely on the roads and many airline staff have already been moved from city hotels to hotels at, and around, the airport until further notice.
There is a strong feeling that this weekend could be a critical moment in the country's history, but we have been at similar junctures in the past. Regardless of which side is right, which is wrong. If you are in Bangkok this weekend, extreme caution should be taken. Or, alternatively use the moment of uncertainty, and do what many Thais are doing and head to the beach. Perhaps enjoy the Hua Hin Kiteboarding World Cup which starts on 13 March 2011
Nice to see this very informative report posted again here, but you forgot to edit that part. My personal tastes in girls are more conventional, as usually, the girls that I fancy have only one pair of eyes each! :DGood one Goyave.
Made my day.
Apple Banana
03-12-10, 20:56
Thanks for the advice.
I will be going to BKK for the first time the weekend after this weekend. You guys think it will be okay by then? I suppose the results of this upcoming weekend will tell.
The timing really sucks, but what can you do.
Tourists in Bangkok and its immediate surrounds, are being warned to take extreme caution, give a lot more time to get to the airport, try and check-in 3 to 4 hours early and expect delays, closures and other inconveniences this coming weekend. 12. 14 March 2010.
In an email sent on Thursday, Andrew Wood, General Manager Chaophya Park Hotel & Resorts, long term resident of Thailand and Skal Int'l Councillor. Thailand, warned that, "it is fair to say that if you don't need to come to BKK it would be best to avoid it this weekend. "
The reason for such a serious warning, is that the political turmoil, which has been ongoing since the coup which threw Thaksin from power, has been simmering, gradually coming to a boil, and this weekend large demonstrations are planned in and around Bangkok.
It is just under two years ago that yellow shirt protestors closed the airports of Phuket, Krabi and Hat Yai before turning their attention to Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi airport with disastrous results for Thailand's image and travel industry.
Will there be trouble this weekend? It is impossible to say for sure, but a lot of companies throughout Bangkok have closed offices that would normally be open in areas where the demonstrations are likely to take place. Some airlines are opening their check-in counters as much as four hours in advance, major disruption is likely on the roads and many airline staff have already been moved from city hotels to hotels at, and around, the airport until further notice.
There is a strong feeling that this weekend could be a critical moment in the country's history, but we have been at similar junctures in the past. Regardless of which side is right, which is wrong. If you are in Bangkok this weekend, extreme caution should be taken. Or, alternatively use the moment of uncertainty, and do what many Thais are doing and head to the beach. Perhaps enjoy the Hua Hin Kiteboarding World Cup which starts on 13 March 2011
You wanted some info but can't receive private messages. How should I contact you. Use a PM to me
You wanted some info but can't receive private messages. How should I contact you. Use a PM to me
If he can't get private msgs, it means he doesn't have a paid account. That means he won't be able to send msgs to you either. Only way to communicate with him then is openly on the forum. Here, in other words.
Good one Goyave.
Made my day.
I'm glad it did.
I made a similar remark a few months ago in this report (http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=945234), but apparently, NicFrenchy did not notice it then (he might need a second pair of eyes himself, or maybe he really loves girls who have 2 pairs of eyes instead of only one). ;)
Anyone else notice that thai girls really run up the bill when you take them out for food? And then never say thank you afterwards?
This has happened to me with a non-working girl too. She kept ordering two main dishes for each meal and then not even eating half of them.
Then they wonder why you don't want them as a girlfriend. Girls who blow your money on things they wouldn't need if they were paying are girls to drop sooner rather than later.
Evianist
They are liberty taking race off ppl whats there is there whats everybody elses is everybodys LOL
I wouldnt stand for it anymore slyest race off ppl on the planet :D also not educated like ppl from the west !!!
NicFrenchy
03-13-10, 15:45
I'm glad it did.
I made a similar remark a few months ago in this report (http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=945234), but apparently, NicFrenchy did not notice it then (he might need a second pair of eyes himself, or maybe he really loves girls who have 2 pairs of eyes instead of only one). ;)
Hahahahah priceless :)
Yes, got me laughing.
Actually, the girl isn't good looking at all (to stay polite)... no matter how many pairs of eyes you put on her :)
... Actually, the girl isn't good looking at all (to stay polite)...
Not a stunner and certainly not the most beautiful girl that I've shagged so far, but cute enough in my book. Especially for 300 baht ST on premises in a cheap brothel located in Udon Thani. There's another picture of her in this previous report of mine: 827045
Fortunately, all mongers don't have the same taste in women.
By the way, her name is Nok, but on our first encounter, she did not tell me her name in Thai, but said it in English ("bird") and I then heard something like "pert" instead, hence the mistake on her name in my previous report! ;)
M P Lurker
03-13-10, 17:02
Hahahahah priceless :)
Yes, got me laughing.
Actually, the girl isn't good looking at all (to stay polite)... no matter how many pairs of eyes you put on her :)
Yes she is cute (although looks a bit childlike), but Nic would probably prefer two large sets of C to D cups.
... Nic would probably prefer two large sets of C to D cups.
Found one really nice set on one cute Lao girl recently, again in a cheap brothel of Northeastern Thailand, but did not have my camera with me then. I should pay a visit there again soon, and hopefully, will post at least one picture in the photo gallery.
I know about him not joining with his fee, except that I received a PM from him as an answer to something I wrote to him before. Maybe he shut it off but I can't return answers to his questions. Just leting him know.
MASSAGE PARLORS :Traditional Thai Massage
Pricing
1 hourThanks , Very helpful . Was looking for this info.
MASSAGE PARLORS :Traditional Thai Massage
Pricing
1 hour = 200 THB
2 hours = 400 THB
Basically all the Massage places in Thailand will offer this Type of Massage.
You do not get a private room for this type of massage, just a common room with mattresses on the floor separated by curtains.
This is my favorite massage, the technique will amaze you!! They make every bones and joints in your body Crack!Wow! Thank you for that great introuction. I did not expect such a great report. I'll be in BKK from Tuesday on and will try each of that. If you like to catch up. The beers will be paid by me.
ThaiLearner
03-13-10, 21:25
Anyone else notice that thai girls really run up the bill when you take them out for food? And then never say thank you afterwards?
This has happened to me with a non-working girl too. She kept ordering two main dishes for each meal and then not even eating half of them.
Then they wonder why you don't want them as a girlfriend. Girls who blow your money on things they wouldn't need if they were paying are girls to drop sooner rather than later.
I have had this happen to me but they have always said Thank you.
The best place to take them is to a Thai BBQ as it is all you can eat so no problem.
Some girls do take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and it is annoying when they leave food but on the whole most will eat what they order.
Member #2041
03-13-10, 22:04
I have had this happen to me but they have always said Thank you.
The best place to take them is to a Thai BBQ as it is all you can eat so no problem.
Some girls do take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and it is annoying when they leave food but on the whole most will eat what they order.
My best gal in Thailand NEVER ate more than 150 baht's worth at a meal.
Member #2041
03-13-10, 22:19
Hahahahah priceless :)
Yes, got me laughing.
Actually, the girl isn't good looking at all (to stay polite)... no matter how many pairs of eyes you put on her :)
Spend enough time here in Sex Prison in the U.S. and she will move from a 6 to an 8. And maybe a 9 when you consider that she cost 300 baht and has a pleasant, affectionate personality.
Actually, I digress. Things really are not quite as terrible in the U.S. as they may seem: I just got back from a nice $80 quickie with one of my favorites here in San Diego - she looks like the cheerleader I never got to fuck in high school, and her body is 100% natural. Other than the fact that $80 US is 5 times what I'd need to pay for comparable in Thailand, it was not bad at all.
I have had this happen to me but they have always said Thank you.
The best place to take them is to a Thai BBQ as it is all you can eat so no problem.
Some girls do take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and it is annoying when they leave food but on the whole most will eat what they order.
I was going to say the same thing, only down side to it is sitting around waiting for them to finish eating.
To add to that, poor girls live on a budget so they make the most of a free meal.
Bit like a monger who isn't getting much action back home and trying to cram in as much pussy as possible into a two week holiday.
NicFrenchy
03-14-10, 02:59
Yes she is cute (although looks a bit childlike), but Nic would probably prefer two large sets of C to D cups.
Yes, that's true :D
Anyone else notice that thai girls really run up the bill when you take them out for food? And then never say thank you afterwards?...This has happened to me with a non-working girl too. She kept ordering two main dishes for each meal and then not even eating half of them...Then they wonder why you don't want them as a girlfriend. Girls who blow your money on things they wouldn't need if they were paying are girls to drop sooner rather than later.Evanist, you're just on a steep learning curve at the moment, just like many of of us were at one time. The opportunity to order expensive food is viewed as a treat for them. Just know that experienced P4P ladies are masters of extracting baht in various forms from their customers.. They even gloat about it over som tam with their girlfriends!
The longer you are in TH you'll become used to this behavior. Thai working ladies are much like, (and often are), spoiled teenagers, Give them an inch and they will take a mile. You either deal with it and not worry too much, or take control of the situation and lay down some rules.
After awhile, if you are in a "real" relationship, you will find that most Thai women are somewhat frugal and watch every baht. It then will work to your advantage as they know how to bargain and get much better prices than farang in most circumstances.
Besides, if someone were taking me out to eat, (which almost never happens anymore except on a client's expense account), I always order a big steak!
Member #3428
03-14-10, 03:40
Besides, if someone were taking me out to eat, (which almost never happens anymore except on a client's expense account), I always order a big steak!
Also depends where you take the girls. Many girls have not been to certain types of restaurants, but they heard about some food names from other working girls... so they order the same thing not knowing what it actually is. They eat a bite or two, don't like it, are too embarrassed / ashamed to admit this so they just leave the food and say they are full.
Then an hour later they want to borrow a few baht for some street noodle and are friggin happy.
Matsui San
03-14-10, 04:57
Evianist
They are liberty taking race off people whats there is there whats everybody elses is everybodys LOL
I wouldn't stand for it anymore slyest race off people on the planet also not educated like people from the west!Yet you fly a good half way across the world to shag them? Who is the bigger loser? When in Rome, respect their culture [do as the romans do].
Stay home, Farang, you will ruin it for everyone.
When the cying and arguing is over, all women (well 95%) have money for sex.
Be it direct payment.
Be it by buying them a meal and a night out at a club
Be it buying them new clothes and bags and shoes.
Whichever way, yes, you pay. Its why I many years ago adopted the "pay direct" way and have no hang ups enjoying mongering to its full.
There are a new breed of younger girls who "expect" everything, they expect to go to top restaurants and order too much food, they expect you to take them to Q bar or Bedsupper club or Silom for clubbing, and pay all their drinks, they expect you to pay for any girlfriends who tag along. These girls are worse than the working girls.
Today I had a new one lined up, but she wanted to bring 2 girlfriends on the meet and go clubbing all together. Told her sorry, if she wants to meet up then dinner is fine, if she expects me to pay for her friends for a night out clubbing she can FO (well, not those words but a sugar coated version).
Some farang are just soft touches and think they are "not paying for sex" by buying these girls lots of presents and paying for their nights out, and so the girls just work on the freebies they can get out of these "stupid farang" which is what they call these guys when talking with their friends.
Anyone else notice that thai girls really run up the bill when you take them out for food? And then never say thank you afterwards?
This has happened to me with a non-working girl too. She kept ordering two main dishes for each meal and then not even eating half of them.
Then they wonder why you don't want them as a girlfriend. Girls who blow your money on things they wouldn't need if they were paying are girls to drop sooner rather than later.
Mr Enternational
03-15-10, 19:34
For those with Happy/Dtac Sim cards, you can extend your sim's validity by 6 months by calling *1013
You can do this twice which gives you one year
Then every time you top up, you get more validity added to the end of that
Thanks for this tidbit. It was very valuable. I was so tired of having to get a new number every time I hit Thailand. When I bought the card this time I mentioned the *1013 to the attendant and she had no idea. She said that she always does it on the computer there at the desk. I did, however, forget to go to the desk on my way out of Thailand but I remembered the *1013 when I got in the plane. It was hard to make out what the recording was saying, but I ended up extending 180 days for a deduction of 12 baht. I think there were 60 and 90 day options for less money as well.
There are a new breed of younger girls who "expect" everything, they expect to go to top restaurants and order too much food, they expect you to take them to Q bar or Bedsupper club or Silom for clubbing, and pay all their drinks, they expect you to pay for any girlfriends who tag along. These girls are worse than the working girls.
Today I had a new one lined up, but she wanted to bring 2 girlfriends on the meet and go clubbing all together. Told her sorry, if she wants to meet up then dinner is fine, if she expects me to pay for her friends for a night out clubbing she can FO (well, not those words but a sugar coated version).
Some farang are just soft touches and think they are "not paying for sex" by buying these girls lots of presents and paying for their nights out, and so the girls just work on the freebies they can get out of these "stupid farang" which is what they call these guys when talking with their friends.
I somewhat expect this type of behavior from working girls. Extracting money from farang is their job. If I pay for the movies or a couple meals where she spends freely, then I basically just take it out of what I was going to pay her for her time.
What surprised me was when I got it from a real thai girl. One who wanted to be my girlfriend and fall in love and all that. Not only being very loose with the spending when I was paying the bills, but not even saying thank you. Granted, she was really keeping junior happy, but when a girl is very loose with my money then I definitely don't want her to stick around much longer.
I guess maybe if you're a farang, even many of the real thai girls will behave like bargirls towards you.
Thanks for this tidbit. It was very valuable. I was so tired of having to get a new number every time I hit Thailand. When I bought the card this time I mentioned the *1013 to the attendant and she had no idea. She said that she always does it on the computer there at the desk. I did, however, forget to go to the desk on my way out of Thailand but I remembered the *1013 when I got in the plane. It was hard to make out what the recording was saying, but I ended up extending 180 days for a deduction of 12 baht. I think there were 60 and 90 day options for less money as well.
It's a great little trick. Remember you can do it more than once too.
Anyone else notice that thai girls really run up the bill when you take them out for food? And then never say thank you afterwards?
This has happened to me with a non-working girl too. She kept ordering two main dishes for each meal and then not even eating half of them.
Then they wonder why you don't want them as a girlfriend. Girls who blow your money on things they wouldn't need if they were paying are girls to drop sooner rather than later.I nip this in the bud at the very beginning. Take them out to local Isaan restaurants (which if they are from Isaan they ought to really appreciate) or else other local places that I know that have excellent food and fair prices. If the girls are genuine, they appreciate the fact that a farang is in the know of good places to eat, if they are on the game and just want to use me for an expensive meal, they find out very very fast they won't be getting one. Same goes for clubbing. I don't frequent places like Q Bar or Bed. For what one can spend there on a date you could be home having a threesome with some wonderful obliging cuties.
I somewhat expect this type of behavior from working girls. Extracting money from farang is their job. If I pay for the movies or a couple meals where she spends freely, then I basically just take it out of what I was going to pay her for her time.
What surprised me was when I got it from a real thai girl. One who wanted to be my girlfriend and fall in love and all that. Not only being very loose with the spending when I was paying the bills, but not even saying thank you. Granted, she was really keeping junior happy, but when a girl is very loose with my money then I definitely don't want her to stick around much longer.
I guess maybe if you're a farang, even many of the real thai girls will behave like bargirls towards you.
I think that the name of the game is "don't be a pushover." I have known some girls in Thailand (and in some other SE Asian countries) who will have no respect for a guy who does not stand his ground. One non-professional told me that if a guy is like that, she would not want him anyway because if she can push him around and get him to do things like buy dinner for the village or whatever, that means that any girl can boss him around, even if he were in a long term relationship with the first girl.
Any girl who brings all the family or 10 friends on a date and you are expected to pay is either milking you or is really insecure/immature and/or wants to put others in her debt or gain face. I have heard of people having to pay for "friends" of the new girlfriend who were just the relatives of inlaws or neighbors or colleagues who were not close and definitely not real friends - just folks she wanted to impress.
Better to draw the line ahead of time, IMHO - if I suspect I will get a posse on a date, I try to deflect it by saying something about it beforehand. I don't mind one chaperon on the first or second date who is really a good friend of my date and who is there to provide a second opinion or security when your date does not know you very well. I have on occasion allowed two. But any more is not good. I once told a girl on the phone after I saw her in a group of 10 at the intended restaurant where we were to meet for a date (I immediately took off) that I thought I got the wrong night because I could see she was having a party with her friends. She never got the joke!
Start the way you intend to continue - you don't pay for people you have never met before or who you have not invited and make sure she knows that. Boot her out for any infringement at the beginning of your relationship. She will either crawl back and know the score or she would not be worth it anyway as you will be funding small armies or hungry "friends" and much much more for as long as the relationship lasts. In fact, a booting out is good near the beginning as it sets the tone that you are a psychologically strong guy. It is just sometimes it is hard to find a reason with some of them to boot them out!
That said, if you do find one who does not have a platoon of friends that need regular feeding and watering, you will have to be reasonably generous with her - most of them you pay on dates. Over time, you will either agree to marry her or your generosity will have to increase to keep her interested. Invariably she will eventually leave you if you don't marry her unless she is a real exception ( for example, a rich girl who does not want to get married) or you have signed over the house to her. This does not mean she is a bar girl. It is just the way it is in this part of Asia.
I somewhat expect this type of behavior from working girls. Extracting money from farang is their job. If I pay for the movies or a couple meals where she spends freely, then I basically just take it out of what I was going to pay her for her time.
What surprised me was when I got it from a real thai girl. One who wanted to be my girlfriend and fall in love and all that. Not only being very loose with the spending when I was paying the bills, but not even saying thank you. Granted, she was really keeping junior happy, but when a girl is very loose with my money then I definitely don't want her to stick around much longer.
I guess maybe if you're a farang, even many of the real thai girls will behave like bargirls towards you.A lot seems to depend on the social class and where they were raised.
A girl coming from a rice farm will sometimes be bedazzeled. (spell?).
They have not learned the value of money and also have not expierence how to control what they now want.
I live in Philippines and go to Bangkok a lot.
I have met and dated and had girlfriends from different walks of life.
Mostly I tend to go for the real naughty ones that just happen to be on the lower economic scale. This is both pay for play and other girls I meet.
My attitude is that I pay all expenses. If they are good and I made an agreement to give them money for their time. Then I just think of it as helping them out and I do hope its a lways a girlfriend expierence.
I do not want to be cheap charlie but still I want to manage my money wisely.
If a girl is reckless. Careless and or thoughtless about spending money I do drop her real fast.
This is how I find the good ones. I let them demonstrate their behaviour.
Its really all an individual choice. But I love the girlfriend expierence and more then happy to help them out. At least until they show they are going to be wasteful.
Tony Hoeprano
03-17-10, 04:52
There are a new breed of younger girls who "expect" everything, they expect to go to top restaurants and order too much food, they expect you to take them to Q bar or Bedsupper club or Silom for clubbing, and pay all their drinks, they expect you to pay for any girlfriends who tag along. These girls are worse than the working girls.I think you're right on this. I met a gal at Narz and got lucky that night with her. A few days later she texts me and asks me if I want to hang out so I say sure, give me 45 minutes. She says she is on Soi 11 at "Best Club". I ask her you sure that's the name? She says yeah, So I'm in shorts and a T and walk down to Soi 11 from my condo. I'm looking all around for this Best Club. I call her and she says its a dome. So I know she meant Bed Supperclub. I meet her, go back to my place to throw on some jeans, come back, and then we get to the front door and she expects me to pay her way in. I made her go to an ATM machine, then my mood soured, and told her my stomach had pain.
I then went to Soi 33 for some relaxation at massage place.
Another strange thing happened was I took a girl to Siam Ocean World, I didn't know it would be expensive but I didn't mind. It went ok, but her English was not so good. A few days later she invited me to dinner, I wasn't really excited, but the thought of a Thai girl inviting me to dinner sparked my curiosity. On the day of the dinner date, she called me 5 minutes before hand and had to cancel LOL.
Going to California Wow, for some reason I thought it closed at midnight, I got there at exactly 10: 58 PM, the girl at the front desk gave me a strange look, and I thought maybe her day was not going well. I go downstairs to pump some iron and the lights go off and everybody is leaving. So I think no wonder the girl gave me strange look. She could have at least tried to tell me they close in 2 minutes LOL
I think that the name of the game is "don't be a pushover." I have known some girls in Thailand (and in some other SE Asian countries) who will have no respect for a guy who does not stand his ground. One non-professional told me that if a guy is like that, she would not want him anyway because if she can push him around and get him to do things like buy dinner for the village or whatever, that means that any girl can boss him around, even if he were in a long term relationship with the first girl.
If I feel like I have to really keep my guard up and worry about standing my ground, then I'm usually not relaxed or enjoying myself.
I let the girl get away with it once, and then I just don't see her anymore. So she might get a big lavish dinner one night, but then she loses a good regular customer and has to go back to her bar and stand on stage all night hoping someone will take her.
I don't want to fight a psychological battle. Where's the pleasure in that?
Hi,
I am due to arrive in Bangkok on Mon. The 22nd, and I am trying to find out how practical mongering there is going to B. I will be staying at The Dynasty Grande for a couple days, then off to Pattaya. Does anyone have any info on the conditions in the mongering areas? Should I just skip Bangkok and go straight to Pattaya from the airport? It looks a little messy on the news reports.
Thanks for any info and advice.
Socker
BeautifulWay
03-18-10, 02:53
Evianist
They are liberty taking race off ppl whats there is there whats everybody elses is everybodys LOL
I wouldnt stand for it anymore slyest race off ppl on the planet :D also not educated like ppl from the west !!!Well given your illiteracy, they are not missing out too much on a fancy western education eh?
See, the only Thai people that losers like you meet are the ones have such a low opinion of westerners because they think they are all lke you. That's why they take them for all they can. there's no fool like a sad old fool.
after all, you get great value here - where else can you shag someone 3-4 times over 12 hours for £20. what does it matter if you have to spend an extra few quid to feed them up after, kick back and enjoy the food tight wads.
anyway i was there last week, caught up with my 'free' thai girlfriend, cost me 1200 baht in petrol, 2000 on fancy restaurants and the cherry on the cake, a 13000 baht blackberry. if you can't afford it, don't go!
BeautifulWay
03-18-10, 03:38
Overall, I don't think I would pursue a 'real' girl unless she was just absolutely drop-dead once-in-a-lifetime gorgeous. I think the working girls are very sexy. You can find a super sexy girl with just a little patience. And perhaps more importantly, working girls don't come with the same kinds of social and emotional complications. That's my two bits.yeah, but it's not one thing or another is it? The main reason we're all in BKK is the world-class mongering, but the great thing about this place is that you can go out on the pull and punch well above your weight, and let's face it if you can pull some local honey without having to pay (ok, I know the drinks and meals etc. End up costing more than the 1000 fee) then that's a great feeling too.
And you can combine the two for extra thrills; last week the local GF is at work and gets back to my soi 11 hotel at 6pm, so I'm in my room between 4 and 5 analing some beer garden freelancer. Just chucked my muck and pushing her out the door when the phone rings from reception with the GF waiting in reception. The 2 of them must have passed in the lobby! I was thrilled, at home you; the be terrified. Why is that?
Are the protest having a negative effect on the mongering activities, I am arriving on Mon the 22nd and am concern from what I see on the news, it looks like a mess. Should I skip Bangkok and go straight to Pattaya?
Thanks for any info and advice. Socker
Dobinator1
03-18-10, 10:19
Are the protest having a negative effect on the mongering activities, I am arriving on Mon the 22nd and am concern from what I see on the news, it looks like a mess. Should I skip Bangkok and go straight to Pattaya?
Thanks for any info and advice. Socker
I just left Bangkok this morning. Up until now there has been no real impact. yesterday afternoon the red shirts did block up Sukhumvit for a bit, but it was more a photo opportunity for tourists than an inconvenience.
Near the airport though I did notice a lot of police presence and roadblocks going up. Overall though the demonstrations seem to be losing steam, so I wouldn't worry too much
Salonkitty
03-18-10, 13:45
Part 1
I was inspired to go over to Chinatown & check the area discussed out. here are my findings.
I took the MRT from Sukhumvit asoke to Hua Lamphong (27 baht one way) & arrived around 5pm. from the MRT take either exit 1 or 4 & keeping the train station to your right, walk over the Canal Road.
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Once over the canal you have a couple of options.
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I walked up Maitri Chit Road, just up on the left is the Cleopatra.
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The first group of females I encountered were at the intersection between Maitri Chit & Phantha Chit. the second group were further up at the intersection with Trok Makham 2. I was offered sucking & fucking by three fenales, prices ranged from 200-500 baht & ages 18-45 ish.
At the top of Maitri Chit road is the 22 Circle.
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At the circle I went left down Mit Phan Road walking towards Chareon Krung Road. I passed the Tai Pei Hotel. Some females hanging around nearby on bothsides of the road.
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Further down mit phan road on the right is a 7-11, again females hanging around outside.
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to be continued...
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Salonkitty
03-18-10, 13:46
Part 2
At the cross roads I carried on straight down Song Sawat Road to the intersection with Yaowarat Road, then I turned right. Over on the left was the Chinatown Hotel.
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Directly opposite the hotel is Yaowarat 2 (a small alley way) which is home to the Texas Cafe & Massage. I went in the Texas and saw a couple of sideliners & a couple of fishbowl girls. None took my fancy. A few hookers hanging around outside offerring sex for 500 baht.
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I carried along Yaowarat Road and came to Phadung Road, walking up this road takes you to the market & bus stop area, where hookers ply their trade along Chareon Krung Road.
Looking up Phadung Road.
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Seafood places at the Yaowarat Road end of Phadung Road.
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Further along Yaowarat Road is the White Orchid Hotel.
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The alley ways that are bordered by Chareon Krung, Song Sawat, Yaowarat & Phadung Roads are a source of freelance females. Many sit at the bottom of stairwells waiting for passing trade. One of the alley way entrances in Chareon Krung Road.
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The alley ways behind Chareon Krung & Mit Phan Roads are also a source of freelance females.
To be continued...
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Salonkitty
03-18-10, 13:47
part 3
I ended up back in Maitri Chit Road & picked up a white Chinese looking girl with good sided tits who took me to a s/t hotel in Trok Makham 2. She cost 500 (originally wanted 800) & the room was 100. She wasn't much of a performer, no photos, no kissing, wouldn't let me poke my fingers in her holes, only provided a covered BJ, but she did get in the positions I wanted & provide the condon. No tip given. She thanked me afterwards & we parted company.
I'll go back & try again this weekend.
the end...
A buddy and I recently checked out Pegasus on Soi23.
The place is extremely luxurious. I would say the deco is overdone, everything is gold etc. More Chinese decoration style then Thai or Farang style.
They have a so-so band which sings Thai and Chinese and occasionally English ballads. Apart from us all other customers were well to do Asians, but we didnt feel unwelcome at all.
The whole experience turned out rather pricey.
As non-member the entrence fee is 900 bath, which includes one drink.
The girls are rather good looking, well groomed and know how to entertain their customers.
Ladydrinks are, depending on the level of the girl, about 1500 bath, for which she sits with you about 45 minutes.
A beer is another couple of hundred.
Barfines are 3000 for the bar and 3000 for the girls for shorttime. Not all but most girls are barfinable. Longtime is 6000.
My friend and I spend about 2 hours there and each barfined a girl.
All in all we both spend about 10.000 each.
My girl was a nice tall student from Chiang Mai with rather good English. She wasn't bad in the sack but not outstanding either. She was however very keen to make the shorttime as short as possible. and rushed back out after 45 minutes.
Would I return? No. Without being a cheap Charly, 10.000 is too high. For the price you can have one or two Penhouse girls in one of the Ratchada MPs.
If you look for a nice, discrete place to take your Boss or your business partner, then it might be for you.
I just left Bangkok this morning. Up until now there has been no real impact. yesterday afternoon the red shirts did block up Sukhumvit for a bit, but it was more a photo opportunity for tourists than an inconvenience.
Near the airport though I did notice a lot of police presence and roadblocks going up. Overall though the demonstrations seem to be losing steam, so I wouldn't worry too muchThat's what I thought, but there is very little chatter about the protesting on the mongering boards, so all I had was the BBC news. Thanks for the info. Helps a lot. Socker
I was inspired to go over to Chinatown & check the area discussed out. here are my findings.Nice report. Thanks. Will have to check it out for something different, off the beaten track (at least MY beaten track).
In contrast to the old men who push themselves all over young bargirls who clearly aren't enjoying it, I'd like to commend the older men I see walking around with pleasant looking 35ish year old women.
They always look happy and comfortable together.
That's what I thought, but there is very little chatter about the protesting on the mongering boards, so all I had was the BBC news. Thanks for the info. Helps a lot. Socker
Only issue I have found is with taxi rides taking a bit longer, as today, having to go bypass certain roads. No other problems. I wouldn't let the media reports put any one off. Bangkok is doing just fine,
Stayed at LL and 33 was shut down for awhile the other day, caught a moto just a bit away. Hotel seemed reasonably busy, so I don't think the news is affecting their business at all.
Off to Phuket in the morning and then a sail to Langkawi.
part 3
Any chance of taking a shot that includes any of the girls? Not sure how interesting/useful it is to look at one photo after another of ordinary street scenes.
Are the protest having a negative effect on the mongering activitiesAs reported, streets can get a little congested. But that's why they made the skytrain and the subway.
Just tonight, had to go from Sukhumvit Soi 65 over to near Patpong, by taxi. Only on Rama IV did I see any signs of Red Shirts (first time) - a few pickups driving along with riders in the back, and some clusters of people on the sidewalk, cheering. But it seemed a red shirt "marshal" cleared a path in a cluster when the taxi wanted to turn into a small soi shortcut.
Bars are open, hotels open, MP's open, shops open, MBK open, skytrain packed, Pantip crowded...
Leave it to the taxi drivers to know how to go...
In contrast to the old men who push themselves all over young bargirls who clearly aren't enjoying it, I'd like to commend the older men I see walking around with pleasant looking 35ish year old women...They always look happy and comfortable together. I guess it comes down to what you consider older. While we're at it, I'd say a young guy might learn a lot from an older Thai woman, say 36-49. Plenty of good looking cougar ladies out there looking for a young stud. Maybe a love lesson at the hands of a tight-bodied, lusty Thai woman would do all of us a little good?
Just know that in the mind of a bar girl, it's money before age every time. What she says on her face is rarely what she is thinking. Sure they like good-looking young men, but the desired "tip" will still be the same as the 55 year old they went with ST earlier in the evening. Normally, even if they profess to love you, they'll almost always go with the most lucrative "customer" in the end.
I was at Bossy Club early this morning having a great time with my GF and a couple of sexy go-go dancers. All around us were young men with stupid looks on their faces and apparently no game. Most of them looked pretty drunk and were sloppily dressed. Not the way to impress a Thai woman of any age. Needless to say, the go-go girls were definitely looking past the boys for a proper payday.
New Sahara club in Soi Cowboy is upping it to 700 for a barfine. 800 if you take the girl during happy hour.
Coyote girl ladydrinks are 200 bhat.
They just took a bunch of the girls from the nearby clubs. Nothing special.
Inside is nice, but with their prices I probably won't bother going again. No need to contribute to price inflation.
Tony Hoeprano
03-20-10, 22:15
Is it unusual for a Thai girl, not associated with the flesh trade, to be virgin? I regularly chat with a girl from DAI, very nice face with a pleasant eyes and smile, nice shape, very friendly girl. I think she's 26 and she hinted towards being a virgin. Although I take everything with a grain of salt these days. I've mostly associated with girls from night clubs and bar girls. Not much experience with "good" girls
Is it unusual for a Thai girl, not associated with the flesh trade, to be virgin? I regularly chat with a girl from DAI, very nice face with a pleasant eyes and smile, nice shape, very friendly girl. I think she's 26 and she hinted towards being a virgin...
In the "real" world, many girls (according to my own experience, I would say most of the "real non-P4P" girls) will pop their cherry only after marriage. Not sure how many "real non-P4P" girls are available on DAI, but you can meet a lot of "good girls" once you've left the P4P venues... especially if you can speak some Thai.
I've been chased more than once by real virgins from the Thai middle-class, that have a regular job and who are cute, smart, with a pleasant personality. They were raised very traditionally and you usually won't have sex with them until you've met their family and made arrangements for the wedding (including paying the "sin sot", so, they are also P4P girls, at the end of the day, when you think about it!). Funny enough, some of them can give head like a pro, but it's all that you may get in the best cases (and usually nothing sexual prior marriage in most).
NicFrenchy
03-21-10, 02:25
In the "real" world, many girls (according to my own experience, I would say most of the "real non-P4P" girls) will pop their cherry only after marriage. Not sure how many "real non-P4P" girls are available on DAI, but you can meet a lot of "good girls" once you've left the P4P venues... especially if you can speak some Thai.
How many years ago was that?
In my experience, many (if not most) of the young girls today (regardless of class) are very curious and very daring to try and have sex in university (some even have it before). I work in a business that has over 1000 employees, few are married but the rest, we were all joking about whether we could still find a virgin in there.
Thai girls of this century are different than the ones of the last, thankfully for us, they like to fuck :)
LittleBigMan
03-21-10, 03:02
How many years ago was that?
In my experience, many (if not most) of the young girls today (regardless of class) are very curious and very daring to try and have sex in university (some even have it before). I work in a business that has over 1000 employees, few are married but the rest, we were all joking about whether we could still find a virgin in there.
Thai girls of this century are different than the ones of the last, thankfully for us, they like to fuck :)
Any job openings?
LBM
How many years ago was that?
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Still true nowadays...
...Thai girls of this century are different than the ones of the last, thankfully for us, they like to fuck :)
Of course, many Thai girls have sex before marriage, but the situation is probably a bit different in Bangkok than in middle provincial towns. Frankly, many members of this board would be amazed to see how many very attractive women in their mid-twenties (and sometimes even older than that) are still virgins upcountry.
By the way, many university students are not much different than semi-pros (they are not "real non-P4P girls" for me). You can meet a lot of these kind: they will fuck with almost anybody (Thai or Farang) who can offer them trendy clothes, a new mobile phone, or even (help them to) pay their tuition fee or appartment/room rental, for instance. It's just prostitution in disguise, IMHO. However, many university student girls don't act like this and are still virgins at the end of their schooling, especially in middle provincial towns, even nowadays.
Salonkitty
03-21-10, 07:09
Any chance of taking a shot that includes any of the girls? Not sure how interesting/useful it is to look at one photo after another of ordinary street scenes.It's useful from the perspective of navigating your way around the area, e.g useful landmarks & places of note where the girls hangout. I did include additional links but they were omitted by the powers that be here. Hey ho!
Let's try a more conservative image & see if the censors here approve. :)
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NicFrenchy
03-21-10, 13:20
they will fuck with almost anybody (Thai or Farang) who can offer them trendy clothes, a new mobile phone, or even (help them to) pay their tuition fee or appartment/room rental, for instance.
Yes, this is very true and I can confirm that.
I went out with 2 uni students (long Story), one was ok but the other really pushed to get the iPhone... I told her that for an iPhone she would need to do anything I want. She looked at me as if everything was cool and said yes. When I ask if that included anal sex, she said no, but everything else was on offer... a 27,000 fuck? no thanks, I passed.
Toptraveler1
03-22-10, 02:29
I am trying to book a room in Bangkok for the first time.
May you tell me where.which part of Bangkok- I have to book my room to be close to action places? Soi 4 may be?
Thanks
Steve Naive
03-22-10, 03:11
massage parlors :traditional thai massagenic, as a fan of thai massage, i really appreciate your report on traditional thai massage. a few comments specifically about therapeutic massage shops, as opposed to the places that focus on sexual services.
prices vary. last night i had first-rate massage 2 hours for 350 thb on soi 20. the lady was 36 and weighs 70 kg - which makes her perfect for a strong therapeutic massage. it was one of the best massages ever for me. in chinatown you may find even lower prices, especially in a place that does not offer services. i have also seen 2 hours for 500 baht or more in a regular shop, usually not better. generally quality has little or nothing to do with the price, and more to do with age and looks of the masseuse.
one or two hours? if i don't know the lady, i ask a few questions first (can you give strong massage? is key), then go for one hour. if she is good, it will be obvious quickly, and (unless it's near closing) you can always ask to make it 2 hours instead. but do that early on, as 2 hours is a different routine.
quality most masseuses give worthwhile massages, unless they are there more to give other services, in which case they may not have had therapeutic massage training. some are truly talented. older, plain-looking masseuses tend to be more talented for therapeutic than attractive younger women... they have to be, to stay employed.
outcall most of the time a lady can do the massage in your hotel, usually at a somewhat higher price. this can also change availability of other services (see next paragraph). i prefer to go to the shop, as the shop is set up better for therapeutic massage.
service availability varies. some places do not offer any services, not even he - or if they do, they are not supposed to. the aforementioned 36 yo thoroughly massaged me all over except dick and balls - even though dick obviously needed massage. she noticed and we discussed, but she said more than once cannot do he in this place. otherwise she was very nice and affectionate.
imo the quality of therapeutic massage is always better in places that do not offer services. otoh women who are good with therapeutic massage usually excel in pleasing a man with her hands, too. i go to one shop for therapeutic, and another for services. some places (e.g. tulip) mostly do not offer any massage, only services... in which they excel. there are places (e.g. naree on soi 4/nana) that do well with both massage and services.
shower etc many places will let you take a shower for free if you ask ("ahb nahm dai mai?") and this is great if you're hot, sweaty, etc. to ask for toilet say "hong nahm (you tee nai)?". they may understand these requests in english, too. one time i arrived drenched from a sudden downpour - they hung my clothes to dry while i was getting a massage.
sometimes when exploring chinatown, a shower and massage is a great way to cool down and rest, recharging me for more exploration. of course cheap sex in chinatown (300-600 baht) serves a dual purpose, too.
tipping. (this applies to a massage without services.) the masseuse gets a lot less than half of the house fee, so you should you should always tip her even if she offers no service. a good amount for decent quality massage is about 100 baht for one hour, 200 baht for 2 hours, more or less depending on quality.
if you pay for services (he bj fs etc), the tip for such service (e.g. 500 of he) is the tip for the whole session, no more is expected. for services, the expected amount of tip varies depending on age and attractiveness of the provider. for example fs with an older woman should cost less than with a young attractive lady (1500 baht), even though the older woman may be better at it.
etc talk to her about whatever problems your body has. she may have knowledge and techniques that could improve your ailment.
if you find an especially good one, tip her well and keep going back to her. she will learn more about what your body needs and take care of you... as well as deeply appreciate your returning business. get her phone number to make sure she is ready when you visit.
remember, prices here are 10% or less of therapeutic massage in us and europe. here you can afford to go every day if you like! ...and its even cheaper, by about half, in laos.
The cons with Uni Girls is you need time to nuture them (not for tourists) and once they get spoilt by silly farangs or rich Thai's then their value for money goes out the window.
Best to get them when fresh and newbie. I have a couple at the moment and its 1500 baht for 3 hours fun with them all, this is the standard payment I agree with them. It is easier for me as I speak Thai and by that they will treat me less like a walking ATM (a little less).
They all tell me some farang pay them 3000 short time, some 2000 baht......but they know from the off they will get 1500 baht and a good time with me, which is what keeps them coming back.
At a young age they will overlook money for sheer enjoyment, and provided you make them cum a few times they will be happy to accept a little less cash for some fun in return.
Its only as they get older that money becomes the pure driver of the transactions - but by that time I have moved on to fresh newbies :)
If they do not accept 1500 baht for a few hours fun then they are spoilt already, very simple way of testing how far gone they are.
Yes, this is very true and I can confirm that.
I went out with 2 uni students (long Story), one was ok but the other really pushed to get the iPhone... I told her that for an iPhone she would need to do anything I want. She looked at me as if everything was cool and said yes. When I ask if that included anal sex, she said no, but everything else was on offer... a 27,000 fuck? no thanks, I passed.
Boater Boy
03-22-10, 18:13
I am trying to book a room in Bangkok for the first time.
May you tell me where.which part of Bangkok- I have to book my room to be close to action places? Soi 4 may be?
ThanksHi Toptraveler,
On my last trip I stayed at Citadines Sukhumvit 11. Excellent hotel and GF.
On my first trip to BKK I stayed at Livingstones Lodge. This was a perfect hotel for the first timer. The advice I got from the team at the hotel there saved me a lot of wasted time and money. Nice ladies in the sports bar as well if you don't want to venture out.
Boater Boy
I am trying to book a room in Bangkok for the first time.
May you tell me where.which part of Bangkok- I have to book my room to be close to action places? Soi 4 may be?
ThanksTry the "Bangkok Hotels" thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1029
Soi 4 or Soi 6 is a good location for newbies.
I would suggest the http://www.dynastygrande.com/ hotel as a good starter place.
on my first trip to bkk i stayed at livingstones lodge. this was a perfect hotel for the first timer. the advice i got from the team at the hotel there saved me a lot of wasted time and money. nice ladies in the sports bar as well if you don't want to venture out.
ok so the sports bar is useful for people who don't want to venture out, though why someone would want to travel all the way to bangkok only to stay inside the grounds of their hotel strikes me as pretty odd.
can you give an example of the specific kind of info given out at ll that would save you wasted time and money?
i often see this kind of comment about this place, always in these kinds of general/vague terms, but just wonder what they could be advising that might be considered valuable. it's a bit like advising people how they can best enjoy a rollercoaster.
to me, it seems like if you take a quick stroll in any direction in the sukhumvit area, you're gonna have a hard time avoiding places where action is. and it's not like there's places rep001tered around that are going to prey on newcomers, more like the opposite. i mean, ok, avoid the taxi touts tryign to usher you to massage places... but is that piece of pretty obvious info worth staying a bit far from the action for?
NicFrenchy
03-23-10, 09:55
Can you give an example of the specific kind of info given out at LL that would save you wasted time and money?
Actually, you can just save money by meeting members there. Many things we do not write on the forum and keep for ourselves, but, when meeting a member in the flesh, we are willing to share that info.
Which Parlor offers the best selection? who is performing well? which place to go for specific things... and also which ladies provide over and above the call of duty (without charging or asking for tips).
If you are on holidays for a few nights, you do not want to "try your luck" too much, you want to know exactly where to go and who to meet so that you maximize your SOGs (unless you fuck 14 times a day like the Rabbit)
So what you are saying is that you do not write accurate informaiton on here, you keep it all to yourselves and have a little buddies meeting at LL, then come on to ISG and hype up LL to get customers for their rooms?
Which parlour offers the best service. Thats easy, Tulip, Mango and Snow White.
Best selection. Go to Ratchada to the big massage places.
Performing well. Tulip, Mango, Snow White. Say no more.
I would be very suspect of information given "in the flesh" and not given on the forum. Perhaps they are trying to get you to go to certain places as they get kick backs from mamasan and the owner?
Yet more "marketing" of LL. Go there and get "secret informaiton"
LOL
Its utter nonsense and of course, perhaps you can see why I have to point out the nonsense otherwise the gang of LL "friends" would have you doing Bangkok only their way, in their "friends" places and probably earning them a few freebies in the process.
LOL
Actually, you can just save money by meeting members there. Many things we do not write on the forum and keep for ourselves, but, when meeting a member in the flesh, we are willing to share that info.
Which Parlor offers the best selection? who is performing well? which place to go for specific things... and also which ladies provide over and above the call of duty (without charging or asking for tips).
If you are on holidays for a few nights, you do not want to "try your luck" too much, you want to know exactly where to go and who to meet so that you maximize your SOGs (unless you fuck 14 times a day like the Rabbit)
Actually, you can just save money by meeting members there. Many things we do not write on the forum and keep for ourselves, but, when meeting a member in the flesh, we are willing to share that info.
Which Parlor offers the best selection? who is performing well? which place to go for specific things... and also which ladies provide over and above the call of duty (without charging or asking for tips).
If you are on holidays for a few nights, you do not want to "try your luck" too much, you want to know exactly where to go and who to meet so that you maximize your SOGs (unless you fuck 14 times a day like the Rabbit)
But we were talking about a typical newbie. So you would say you would recommend it not for the typical newbie who wants to have his own adventure, head out and explore on his own, but more for the newbie who has very limited time and doesn't want to go out and take any chances, wants sure things only. So more the type of guy who wants to go meet a sure thing that a guy he met at LL had already had in the past. Hm. I'm not sure I'd ever want to seek out that kind of advice. Takes much of the appeal away when you have met the guy who did her before, and he talks about it.
And you're saying that there are regular members here who are usually there at LL most nights.... and that they prefer to keep good info off the forum?
Traveler1234
03-23-10, 15:13
And you're saying that there are regular members here who are usually there at LL most nights.... and that they prefer to keep good info off the forum?
You raise a very good question that deserves a reply.
The short version is yes. LL's name might come up more often....because Giotto has own sub-forum.
The longer version is this happens just not at LL but other 'hang-outs', and not just in LOS. For instance, if a group of guys get together at the Beergarten or Thermae, same banter occurs. When guys meet up in say Beijing (Maggie's) or Shanghai (old Tong Ru Lu bars), same.
I, for one, wish folks would provide more info on-line. But some of the sub-forums have a distinct sub-culture to them,eg, Malaysia (always worried about the 'men in black') and your favorite haunt, Vietnam!.
In fact, I remember distinctly a recent exchange (of which I was involved) where a few vehemently argued that it was not 'safe' to share/provide good info on the forum. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975622&postcount=317
If I quoted you out of context, my apologies. :D
So you would say you would recommend it not for the typical newbie who wants to have his own adventure, head out and explore on his own, but more for the newbie who has very limited time and doesn't want to go out and take any chances, wants sure things only.IMHO, there are several types of newbies, or even "not newbies", who fall into the 2 basic categories mentioned: the 'adventurer', who goes out on his own with some advice garnered here, and the 'guided tour' type, who wants to be led around, not picking out his own, but seeking out the 'tried and true' recommendations of others.
Perhaps not exactly on this thread, but check most others, and there are constant posts of "send me her contact details", even the skill of a PM being somewhat of a lost art.
For me, the recommendation of a place and a girl sufficient, I'll go see if I can find her myself, evaluate her appeal to me, and act accordingly. And if I can't find her, well, in most venues anywhere, there's more than 1 provider. And other venues...
But that's just me.
I happen to stay at the Royal President, Soi 15, as I like their serviced apt layout, with the large fridge, and large room, because I do spend more time in the room than probably most, given that I'm also here to relax and I've seen most of the tourist sights that interest me.
But it does take all types. I've never stayed at LL, so can't speak specifically about it. Given it's still in business, must be doing something right.
It's just one of many possibilities... To each his own
NicFrenchy
03-23-10, 16:27
And you're saying that there are regular members here who are usually there at LL most nights.... and that they prefer to keep good info off the forum?
Don't put words in my mouth. No I did not say that but I implied that if you choose to stay @ LL, chances are you will bump into an ISG member.
People can read all they want in the forum, but writing is a little tiring, especially for people like us (English being my 3rd language) so the experiences are shortened, some info is voluntarily left out.
If I have a FAV somewhere, I am not likely to post her name anywhere on ISG... because if I do, then I might kiss her goodbye as she will be booked solid for the next few months (yes, ISG has that power).
Now can you tell me of a place where you can go, have a drink and freely talk about your Hobby? As ISG members, we are all in some way attracted to pussy, but staying at a regular hotel, can you really discuss this? and if yes, with who?
@ LL, you will surely bump into Fellow ISG members, junior or senior, but that always lead to some great conversations and you can get great insight on some places that few would visit (see my post on the smaller Cowboy bars for example).
Most ISG tourists come to LOS for sex and I, for one think this is very important that they stay somewhere where they will be "understood" and even encouraged to discuss their hobby.
Some might disagree, but to each their own.
By the way, where are the Pro and TT ? are these shit disturbers dead or what? we talk about LL for 3 posts in a row and these guys have not showed up yet? what the fuck? is this forum really changing? (for the better... LOL)
@ LL, you will surely bump into Fellow ISG members, junior or seniorIs it the isg secret handshake that's the identifier, or did I miss out AGAIN on the t-shirt give-away... :)
You raise a very good question that deserves a reply.Replied to you in PM on this. "Safe" in that other thread was about trying to avoid the place being shut down by police in that locatoin, which happens a lot there. Not sure if that came across in the thread or not. But even if "safe" means not overrun and prices driven up, I can understand. I think the "home" they're referring to is another thread, not the Bangkok one here.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Sorry... was just getting confused, now I see you were chiming in with your own different viewpoint than what the first guy was saying.
And yeah, so as not to have it turn into what you refer to, I'll say the rest in PM.
But what you say clarifies a bit, can definitely see the attraction for some to wanna participate in sth like that. Still wouldn't be too into it myself, personally, but can understand how many would.
All,
Before we spread discussions about Livingstone's to all other threads of the Thailand forum some clarifications on the issues below:
- Livingstone's has some customers reading the ISG. Usually 2 or 3 are staying here at the Lodge. Sometimes - especially on weekends - more ISG guys come to the Sports Lounge.
- If ISG members are here, and I am aware of it, and I see those guys - I introduce them with the remark: "You have the same hobby". I do not mention user names or the forum. I leave it to those members whether they can get along with each other or not.
- There are no regular members here "most nights". Most nights the only ISG member who is here - is me :) .
- As for exchanged information: I never mention names of providers in the forum, because I know what happens if I do. Here - at my desk, talking to my customers - I sometimes mention specific providers, IF I THINK IT COULD FIT.
- Newbies: There is a maximum of 1 newbie a month arriving here at Livingstones. He will be briefed when he arrives and he talks to me. We have much more returning customers than newbies here at the Lodge.
- The advice I give to our guests has definitely not much to do with Livingstone's. I mention the good hostess bars in Soi 33 as well as other good places in the other red light districts. I try to give honest advice, that's basically it.
- I don't know whether we saved our customers money in the past, but if we see them being ripped-off we will intervene - of course. And we will give them the advice to buy gems/clothes/etc. in the cheaper places we know.
- It is possible that we saved some customers some time - I sometimes draw maps to give the customers an overview where the places are he could be interested in :). I think that saves time ...
Now - there are more important things in life than Livingstone's and the ISG. And there are some people here who take things way to serious.
Bottom Line: We are running a hotel in Bangkok. We try to provide the best service for our customers, including the best advice we can give. But: This is NOT the ISG Hotel Bangkok!
And: We do not rip-off anybody!
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
All,
Before we spread discussions about Livingstone's to all other threads of the Thailand forum some clarifications on the issues below:
- Livingstone's has some customers reading the ISG. Usually 2 or 3 are staying here at the Lodge. Sometimes - especially on weekends - more ISG guys come to the Sports Lounge.
- If ISG members are here, and I am aware of it, and I see those guys - I introduce them with the remark: "You have the same hobby". I do not mention user names or the forum. I leave it to those members whether they can get along with each other or not.
- There are no regular members here "most nights". Most nights the only ISG member who is here - is me :) .
- As for exchanged information: I never mention names of providers in the forum, because I know what happens if I do. Here - at my desk, talking to my customers - I sometimes mention specific providers, IF I THINK IT COULD FIT.
- Newbies: There is a maximum of 1 newbie a month arriving here at Livingstones. He will be briefed when he arrives and he talks to me. We have much more returning customers than newbies here at the Lodge.
- The advice I give to our guests has definitely not much to do with Livingstone's. I mention the good hostess bars in Soi 33 as well as other good places in the other red light districts. I try to give honest advice, that's basically it.
- I don't know whether we saved our customers money in the past, but if we see them being ripped-off we will intervene - of course. And we will give them the advice to buy gems/clothes/etc. in the cheaper places we know.
- It is possible that we saved some customers some time - I sometimes draw maps to give the customers an overview where the places are he could be interested in :). I think that saves time ...
Now - there are more important things in life than Livingstone's and the ISG. And there are some people here who take things way to serious.
Bottom Line: We are running a hotel in Bangkok. We try to provide the best service for our customers, including the best advice we can give. But: This is NOT the ISG Hotel Bangkok!
And: We do not rip-off anybody!
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.thStayed there a couple of times and can confirm what Giotto says. Even if i never had a longer chat with him, but only with Guido.
Mike
P.S. thanks for the service and openness
All, Before we spread discussions about Livingstone's to all other threads ......... And: We do not rip-off anybody!
http://www.livingstones.co.th
LL is a great place and worth every Baht. I will be there next week again - although only for 1 night - and I am already looking forward to it..
Cheers from Shanghai,
Shamuc
Don't put words in my mouth. No I did not say that but I implied that if you choose to stay @ LL, chances are you will bump into an ISG member.
Now can you tell me of a place where you can go, have a drink and freely talk about your Hobby? As ISG members, we are all in some way attracted to pussy, but staying at a regular hotel, can you really discuss this? and if yes, with who?
By the way, where are the Pro and TT ? are these shit disturbers dead or what? we talk about LL for 3 posts in a row and these guys have not showed up yet? what the fuck? is this forum really changing? (for the better... LOL)Agree, even "stole" a bg from LL but still got good advice from Herr Giotto. Stopped by a couple of months ago, had dinner at the pool. Food was great, saw Herr Giotto holding court.
Mike
Tony Hoeprano
03-24-10, 12:16
Hi guys.
If I'm able to make between 4k-5k USD per month, will i be able to make a decent living in Bangkok? I just like to have a nice condo and be able to relax, eat good foods, and have fun with the girls.. im simple lol
Hi guys.
If I'm able to make between 4k-5k USD per month, will i be able to make a decent living in Bangkok? I just like to have a nice condo and be able to relax, eat good foods, and have fun with the girls.. im simple lol
I think you can
You probably have to be careful on not being too handsome with the girls and get many wifes:)
Third trip to BBK, and not too much has changed in 4 years!
After taking limo from Airport (BMW 7-Series for 2, 200Bht), settled in a the Grand Sukhumvit on Soi 6, but it really might as well be on Soi 4 as it is SO close to the NEP on 4. Unfortunately they did insist on charging me for a full extra night even though my arrival was at 5am. Was hoping for more of a break. 500Bht for Internet seems excesive and I will probably try somewhere else next time, but a nice hotel none the less. Used theor web site to book so I could upgrade the room. Problem with wholesalers is that you always get the smallest room, and not necessarily for ay less than booking direct.
Culd not help my self and headed right ot to start the fun. Fund a very beautiful girl, and got half way back to the hotel before realizing was a LB. Why do they often look the best! So. Had to chase that one away.
Next day headed to Teen Massage on Soi 24/1 about 1pm, had an OK time, but I think I would have rather tried one of the oter ones. Rooms very ugly and not all that clean.
By 7pm not sure I was ready to go again but was near Soi Cowboy so decided to stop in at Bacaraca. What luck! Almost immediately spotted two beautiful young ones just size (short, small breasts and very thin). I picked them out in part because they were having fun with each other, and seemed to have the most energy on the upstairs dance floor in spite of a small crowd. This has always been a good approach for me, to look for those that seem to have the most interest and enthusasism. Some of them are SO not into what they are doing. Not that I can blame them, must be tough to keep up energy level hour after hour. Anyway, invited them for a drink and they almost immediately proposed. And off to my hotel room we were! Fa and Be were their names. Love those school girl outfits. BF 600Bht and 1, 500Bht for ST each. Very fun and willing, and although probably not exactly bi-sexual, they made the moves necessary to make it a very enjoyable few hours.
I gave Fa my card on the way out, and told her I wanted her to call me the next day and cme spend the night with me. Did it on the side so as to not offend the second girl. Fa was just a bit more pretty and loved her work.
Next day I had arranged with www.escortgirlsbangkok.com to have Hana come to my room at 9am.
This girl was probably the gem of my trip. Personality, language, beauty. She had it all. She was from Chang Mai and unfortunately was going out of town the next day otherwise I would probably have had her return. Many times.
Later in the day tried Annies for a soappy massage. Never did a soapy on my first two trips. Sad to say, was abit of a dissapointment. Place was just not all that much of a turn on. Again, kind of dirty and very plain. I think I shoudl have gone to the effort to go to Emmanuels or Posidion. Not that I have been to these, but my research seemed to indicate that these had a better quality of service and a little better facilities.
That night, as I said Fa for the night.
Needing a day off, I headed to Siam Paragon for a little shopping, and a movie in one of those great 600bht movie seats. Love them! Also visited my favorite market Pak Khlong Market. Look it up in any guide book. If you like to cook, you will e facinated by being able to walk through the stalls of families processing frest fruits, vegetables and flowers.
Also on one of these earlier days I made a visit to the weekend market to buy silks (they pack so well) for gifts for those at home. I recommend this as a great day out if you are around on a weekend.
For my last night I ordered a duo of Nok and June from www.Bangkokgoldescorts.com
Wile expensive, I wanted a no hassle experience. Nice Lingeire and toys. A bit mechanical, but a part of that was my fault. Wile I loved the A-level from Nok, June was the beauty of the two. Would absolutely see June again.
And here I sit, working out a girl from one of the services for tmorrow morning 8am just before my flights back!
Over all I was dissapointed in one of my wanders through NEP. Seemed dirtyier and seedier than last time, and far to many Lady Boys. I think I am more of a Soi Cowboy fan. But the debate will always rage back and forth on this form of NEP versus Cowboy. Try them both see what you like! NEP strikes me more of a place to do a lot of drinking, which I do not do.
I like the escort services and had good luck, but to each their own!
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Hi guys.
If I'm able to make between 4k-5k USD per month, will i be able to make a decent living in Bangkok? I just like to have a nice condo and be able to relax, eat good foods, and have fun with the girls.. im simple lol
More than a decent living. 5K USD is more or less 160K Thai Baht and with this money we can have a good living in BKK. A good condo (I assume one bedroom) will cost no more than 35K Baht. With 1K Baht per day you can eat breakfast, lunch and dinner in places with good food. Utilities (assuming reasonable air-con usage) will not go over 2500 k per month. So you'll have more than 90K per month for fun and this will buy a lot in Thailand. Of course if you dive into luxury you'll have some small problems but still you'll be able to have a nice condo, eat good foods and have some fun.
Stayed there a couple of times and can confirm what Giotto says. Even if i never had a longer chat with him, but only with Guido.
Guido is great, but not sure Guido has the 411 that I'm looking for. ;)
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