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Franco Cozzo
12-03-10, 11:22
Wow!
I will write more when I recover from the best BBJ in my life, by a girl who is a solid 8, and is early 20s at the oldest.
FARK, I almost passed out.
NicFrenchy
12-03-10, 12:53
Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?
Works perfect for me... See:
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Member #4698
12-03-10, 14:23
If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.
Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners. http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/
This is a great website. I get email updates from the site when new girls are added to the various parlors.
Right now, I am doing my homework for my next trip back to BKK in Feb. At present based on the pictures alone, I think Copa Cabana, Emmanuelle, La De'fense, Long Beach and La Belle have the hottest women. But you never know what you will find until you walk through the doors.
Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?
This is a great website. I get email updates from the site when new girls are added to the various parlors.
Right now, I am doing my homework for my next trip back to BKK in Feb. At present based on the pictures alone, I think Copa Cabana, Emmanuelle, La De'fense, Long Beach and La Belle have the hottest women. But you never know what you will find until you walk through the doors.
Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?
No there isn't. Its simply a rule that Farangs pay more.
Utopia charge is ridiculous unless you have a very special girl there to make it worthwhile. But then you might just arrange to meet in private.
It you don't like it, go to a different place with no Farang charge or a lower Farang charge, e.g. Nataree.
I stayed many times in Soi 19 (one road next to the Grand Millennium who is at Soi 21). If the driver takes the earlier exit (I believe exit Asoke, the opposite way of the Grand Mercure / Shopping Mall Fortune) you can be on your place within 25 minutes and just for around 250 THB including the first highway toll gate. [Second point re quickest route back to airport deleted to conserve space.]Sounds like this gentlemen is *VERY* with Bangkok geography. I am the same way in my home town, where I know to the last tenth of a percent the quickest taxi route (in time or distance) between any two points.
In summary, if you are: (a) well versed in the Bangkok street grid, and (b) possessed of enough Thai to direct the driver to your preferred routing, you can save 200-250 baht compared to lining up with clueless newbie tourists like me at the cab stand outside exit four and letting the system work. For me, it's not worth the effort to save USD $6-8. As the old saw posits, the perfect is the enemy of the good.
But I recognize this type of advice is in the finest and best tradition of online forums, where the group strives to collect the absolute best information about any given topic, no matter how marginal the improvement one course of action has over another. (Recently read a massive thread on a board frequent by frequent fliers discussion the best airport lounges at Narita. Dozens of posts compared the quality of the free soap in the showers. Not really a concern for me. :-) But something that nevertheless contributes to the continuing discussion. So I appreciate all the followups to my original "airport taxi FAQ."
Bunky
I’ve just been out for two days in Patong nightlife and it was really disappointing. I don’t find any girls worth shagging here. Is the situation different in Bangkok?
Perhaps all the really hot chicks go to other countries where they earn more? Or do the hot ones avoid the P2P scene because the worry about their marriage potential?
Well, I’m not giving up :-), but I’m kind of getting desperate here – does anyone have contacts of a “perfect 11” high-end model (looks are top priority, GFE not so important)? PM me and I’ll be happy to throw some rounds of beer (or better stuff) in return.
There are many high end good looking girls in Patpong bars in BKK. Most of these bars allow only Japanese and korean guys inside. Once I went with a Korean guy and it is very expensive to do anything there including companionship, buying drinks etc. The tab can alone could put you back a thousand dollars. I guess they have their clientale who spend lavishly.
Ofcourse the girls look like models with their dress and make up. Never took any girl from there so I do not know how they look in the morning. I am sure many businessmen take them as eyecandy. As for me for a short time sex deal I would settle for a cheap girl who gets me off. I have sponsored beatifull normal girls in Phi and Thailand for extended relationships.
In p4p world why spend lots of money just to be with a beautifull girl who may or may not be good in bed.
NicFrenchy
12-04-10, 02:30
Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?
Well, unless you look Asian... if not you will have to pay. BUT since the girl usually gets 100% of the Surcharge (500thb) then there is no need to tip her after the session.
I never tip the girls when I am charged the Farang Surcharge. It usually work out the same.
There are many high end good looking girls in Patpong bars in BKK. Patpong has a lot of women, but few would be considered "high end." You probably mean Soi Thaniya which is next to the Patpong District, directly adjacent to the Sal Daeng BTS Station. It is home to many "Japan Clubs."
Most of these bars allow only Japanese and korean guys inside. Once I went with a Korean guy and it is very expensive to do anything there including companionship, buying drinks etc. The tab can alone could put you back a thousand dollars. I guess they have their clientale who spend lavishly.Correct, although some of the clubs do allow white foreigners. It's a different socializing routine in these clubs, and can be very expensive.
Ofcourse the girls look like models with their dress and make up. Never took any girl from there so I do not know how they look in the morning. Some of the prettiest women in Bangkok work on Soi Thaniya, but they definitely have a cultivated "look" intended for the Asian monger. A good time to check out the scene is between 8 and 9 PM when the ladies are sitting outside the clubs waiting for their next victim (walking ATM, that is).
In p4p world why spend lots of money just to be with a beautifull girl who may or may not be good in bed.Could it be that some men's egos know no bounds? More likely, for discerning men, hiring a beautiful woman for a night is like borrowing a fast car from a friend, or renting art for a holiday condo. All are meant to be savored and enjoyed...then returned to their owner.
Mealticket
12-04-10, 10:46
is like borrowing a fast car from a friendWho lends out their car?
I caught something on another board about Sukhumvit area bars being closed his weekend (December 3-5) and next weekend (December 10-12) due to some sort of election.
Can anybody verify, and does this include Nana/Cowboy?
Wow!
I will write more when I recover from the best BBJ in my life, by a girl who is a solid 8, and is early 20s at the oldest.
FARK, I almost passed out.Do you have a name?
I caught something on another board about Sukhumvit area bars being closed his weekend (December 3-5) and next weekend (December 10-12) due to some sort of election.
Can anybody verify, and does this include Nana/Cowboy?
This weekend is the King's birthday. Birthday Dec 5, and observed Dec. 6. So no drinking. :) Lot of people taking this long weekend (Dec 3-6) off. Dec 10 is Constitution Day.
This weekend is the King's birthday. Birthday Dec 5, and observed Dec. 6. So no drinking. :) Lot of people taking this long weekend (Dec 3-6) off. Dec 10 is Constitution Day.Sorry. Nope.
This weekend is something like "pre-elections". People, who cannot go to the elections next week can / have to go this weekend.
For that - no alcohol! For 3 days.
Surprisingly - next week are the elections. That means - no alcohol, for 3 days.
Wow. TIT. Btw., we had some bad month before, that was the right time for elections (pre- and real ones). Now should be high season ...
Anyway, Livingstone's is still open.
Nobody can EVER understand this country, and its government. Nobody can, and nobody will - EVER - understand the responsilbe people running this country.
Time to leave. It's too damned stupid.
Giotto (drunk, and extremely pissed about the last Thai experiences!)
http://www.livingstones.co.th
...This weekend is something like "pre-elections". People, who cannot go to the elections next week can / have to go this weekend....For that - no alcohol! For 3 days.Patpong bars are open and serving...
Vendors were even selling cans of beer on Silom Road. Go figure...
Sorry. Nope.
This weekend is something like "pre-elections". People, who cannot go to the elections next week can / have to go this weekend.
For that - no alcohol! For 3 days.
Surprisingly - next week are the elections. That means - no alcohol, for 3 days...
...Giotto (drunk, and extremely pissed about the last Thai experiences!)
http://www.livingstones.co.th
What happened, Giotto?
Did you fall down on your head?
Today (5/12/10) is the King's 83rd birthday ... no alcohol ... and maybe tomorrow too ...
Next week on the 10th is the 60th anniversary of the King's ascension to the throne ... maybe no alcohol again ... and maybe there are elections too ... TIT.
I am planning a trip to Bangkok. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how much money I should take?
Expected expenses include:
7 days at nana hotel
Food
Transportation
Bar fines
Drinks
Whatever fee the bar girl gets for sex, I want least would like to partake in at least 1 a day. From what I have read this anywhere between 1000-2000 is that right?
Advice appreciated, Did I forget any expenses?
Off course the airfare is handled already
Perhaps you know of a better hotel near the action(guest friendly)
...
Did you fall down on your head?
Today (5/12/10) is the King's 83rd birthday ... no alcohol ... and maybe tomorrow too ...
...LOL, most likely I did.
Again, this no-alcohol days have nothing to do with the birthday of the king. It's because of the elections.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
The no sell alcohol policy has very little effect. I was eating around sukhumvit and when I ordered beer with the food I was told that I could step down from the window seat and eat there and beer was brought in glasses (no bottles around). I think it is the same thing in NEP and Cowboy. Stores have signs that they cant sell alcohol, I didnt try myself but one guy just grabbed a few Heinekens at the 7Eleven and paid them normally at the cashier so no effect.
During my 2 nights I ended barfining 2 different girls from the bar directly across Shebas in Cowboy. 1st night BFd young looking slim girl who was actually 29 then the next night switched to a 19yo. Dont remember the name of the bar. Some (maybe 1, barely 2) girls very hot there but the rest just usual, but I still liked fucking them. Ended up one night at this "loy kratong" party (anyone know what it is?) where I took a taxi like with 5 bargirls after a short time with my girl I wanted to accompany her there and she met her friends I saw earlier at that bar (we all were drunk) to some place far near Rama8 and there people and I too lit up those things and let them fly into the sky and also put those things with candles onto the water. Seemed like I was the only farang there at 2 am :)
Then came to the hotel to sleep...it was a good choice...looks like no-one wanted any company for the night...
Anyone familiar with a G-Glub called The Sky?
The no sell alcohol policy has very little effect. I was eating around sukhumvit and when I ordered beer with the food I was told that I could step down from the window seat and eat there and beer was brought in glasses (no bottles around). I think it is the same thing in NEP and Cowboy. Stores have signs that they cant sell alcohol, I didnt try myself but one guy just grabbed a few Heinekens at the 7Eleven and paid them normally at the cashier so no effect.
During my 2 nights I ended barfining 2 different girls from the bar directly across Shebas in Cowboy. 1st night BFd young looking slim girl who was actually 29 then the next night switched to a 19yo. Dont remember the name of the bar. Some (maybe 1, barely 2) girls very hot there but the rest just usual, but I still liked fucking them. Ended up one night at this "loy kratong" party (anyone know what it is?) where I took a taxi like with 5 bargirls after a short time with my girl I wanted to accompany her there and she met her friends I saw earlier at that bar (we all were drunk) to some place far near Rama8 and there people and I too lit up those things and let them fly into the sky and also put those things with candles onto the water. Seemed like I was the only farang there at 2 am :)
Then came to the hotel to sleep...it was a good choice...looks like no-one wanted any company for the night...All bars are open where I live near Chatuchak. Coyote bars, normal bars, 7-11, etc.
So Nana & Cowboy will still be open? But not serve alcohol?
What are the exact dates/times affected?
How about the discos such as Climax?
Is this in Pattaya also?
Since there were 2 posters inquiring about where to find the hottest girls, I thought I would share my notes from this thread; the general consensus is that these establishments have hot girls:
Pegasus
Nataree
Rachada soapies (Poseidon, Amsterdam, Caesars)
All of them pretty pricey. Do a search for more info. Note: I haven't been to any of them yet, this is just from my research. From my last trip I have experience in the Rainbow bars at Nana, where IMO you can already find some really hot women.
The Beer Garden at Soi 7 gets some mixed reviews especially later in the evening but if you not after the stunning 21 year olds it's an ok place. I am myself in the forties but well preserved.
It's easy to check out the women and easy to see if anyone is interested. That is if you are careful selecting. On this trip I wasn't in my first attempt.
I was talking to some old-timers from Scotland when a smiling woman in the early 30's approached us. She looked ok and was not dressed like a *****. I am not into the dyed hair and high heels.
She was from Udon and turned out to be the worst lay I have had in Thailand. She was nice but seemed completely ignorant about sex. She had 2 children in Udon so it couldn't be her first time!
Next evening on the king's birthday I went by Thermae just to revisit the place. A couple of years ago I was staying at the Raumchitt Hotel above the Thermae and have taken some nice girls upstairs.
It's properly more difficult now competing with the very 'short' time Asian guys.
The atmosphere is stone cold, but its fun to watch.
Then I went onto Beergarden again at around 11 PM. There was a sweet girl talking to 3 guys. They were definitely not going to take her out, but it was not possible to get her attention. There was also a nice girl – nonpro student type. Sitting next to me but she was staring down at the table and constantly checking out her mobile. I was waiting to long to talk to her. It would be a bit awkward to approach her after 10 minutes.
I decided to go down towards Nana passing the usual bunch of black girls around Soi 3. It looks a bit like Istedgade, in the red light area in Copenhagen. The black girls are primarily trying to get the attention of Arab looking guys and that's fine by me.
Having a drink at the bar opposite the Nana Parking Lot I saw a very small cute looking girl. I must admit that it's difficult to be a 100% sure about the gender of the 'girls' standing in front of the Nana Parking lot, even if they are small and cute. She was just leaving the place was I was going to approach her, so I went back to The Beer Garden again. The nice looking girl was still talking to the 3 guys. Walking around I saw a girl in her late twenties sitting alone. Her nick name was something like 'Blaah'- the same as the word for fish in Thai. She spoke English remarkably well. I try to improve my small knowledge of Thai and keep the Thai/English book out in the open. It's a nice ice breaker to talk about language.
'Blaah' was from Ubon and had at one point studied to be a nurse. She definitely knew all about the human body and turned out to be an excellent GFE. She staid the whole night. She never asked about a specific sum so I gave her 3000. On the subject of ladyboys she actually told me that sometimes even she couldn't be sure. I got her phone number will properly call her tomorrow. If you meet 'Blaah' treat her well.
At this very moment I am checking out Chinatown: Soi Texas (Thanon Padung Dao), Texas Massage, Maitri Chit and the small streets in between.
The girls and quite old ladies are standing out in the open. And most of them are smiling at you. They know that you (in my case) are a dirty old man and not stumbled upon this place by accident. Especially at 'Thanon Mit Phan' up to the round about there was a lot of girls. Also on the small streets around Texas Massage (it's actually marked at Google Earth) opposite the China Town Hotel, there were many girls. On Maitri Chit itself (a not so busy broad street) there were a few girls.
It's a bit odd with the girls standing between people working on street right besides them. So far I have only been checking out the area I will let you now how it goes. I hope my basic Thai knowledge will do but 'Nyng pan' meaning a 1000 should do the trick. You will also have to pay for the short time hotel. Song roi means 200.
Perhaps you know of a better hotel near the action(guest friendly)
Don't how it is these days (it's been 5 years since I've last visited BKK), but I stayed at the Grace Hotel. Definitely guest friendly and 10 minute walk to the action (Nana?).
I'll be back this Christmas and New Year's, but most of my time will be spent in Hua Hin with my GF. No time for mongering unless she's up for it, too.
Hotman 666
12-06-10, 14:15
I'm just back from a few days in Thailand. Thought this may interest some of you!
I was having a quiet drink one evening at Safari Bar (Patpong 1) when an English guy of around 35 walked in, sat down near to me and ordered a beer.
He was obviously rather upset, must have needed someone to talk to and had obviously chosen me!
He started to tell me his problems,
He was just an ordinary guy who had to work hard for his money in UK and his trips to L. O. S were limited.
On his 1st trip to Thailand, around 18 months ago, he had met a Thai girl (in Phuket I think.) She had, within a few days, become his "regular girl friend" and he had started sending her monthly donations. On subsequent visits he had met the parents, sister and various other family members.
On this trip, he had only arrived a few days ago, he was met by the whole family and told that a payment of some "huge amount" of Thai Baht was required if the relationship was to continue!
During the subsequent argument / discussion he was also informed that what he thought was his girlfriend's sister's baby was actually the child of his girlfriend!
He was distraught and asked my advice.
I told him to change his hotel, throw away his SIM card, get a new one, and start to enjoy himself rather than be the walking ATM that this family expected!
He had already decided to have no further contact with his (now EX) girlfriend but also seemed to have decided that he would have no further contact with any Thai girl.
I told him that I thought that this was a bad decision and what he needed, in my opinion, was a cute, friendly, playmate for the evening to take his mind off his problems. So after finishing his beer we were off to one of the few remaining "upstairs, naughty bars" in Patpong.
Now, I am not a stranger to this bar so, as soon as I sat down I had a friendly attentive (and naked) playmate by my side and my new chum also had a naked dancer with a nice body straddling him and playing "tonsil hockey" with him while he gave her a detailed chest examination.
As he had never been to anywhere like this before it took him some time, after I had explained how things worked, to fully get into the "ambience" of the place and enjoy what was on offer but he caught on rather quickly and, with a little guidance from me was soon enjoying all the delights that a BKK bar has offer.
Now, during this time a new playmate had joined me (One that I had not seen before) who was young, rather attractive with no kids and an absolutely beautiful body.
My new chum, rather sheepishly, told me that he thought that she was "absolutely beautiful" and that, if she was not already with me he would be bar fining her long time!
So, a few words in my playmates ear that "My friend like you and want to take you long time" she quickly transferred her allegiance (and her naked body) to my chum.
I don't think that I have ever seen anyone so astonished, or so happy, as him at that moment. It's as if all his Christmas wishes had been answered at once so, after they had a few minutes to get to know each other I helped him negotiate the bar fine and long time rate for her.
I don't think that anyone has been quite as grateful to me as that guy was. I'm sure that he couldn't believe his luck! From suicidal to absolute ecstasy in around one hour. And so, after continually telling me for 15 minutes that I was the "best guy he had ever met" and that I had "saved his life" he finally left the bar with his new friend for a night of fun and games.
I already mentioned that I am no stranger to that bar so many of the girls, and the Moma San's know me and I had already made sure that the girl would treat him very well during their time together.
I left BKK early the next morning but can not keep from smiling when I think of how I was able to change this guys perception of Thai girls and, hopefully, ensured he enjoyed the rest of his time in Thailand. I will probably never see him again but I must admit that I felt good that I could help a fellow traveller.
Oh yes, my final words to him as he left, with his new and attentive playmate, were DON'T FALL IN LOVE! I hope he follows my advice!
Hotman.
I’m just back from a few days in Thailand. Thought this may interest some of you!
I was having a quiet drink one evening at Safari Bar (Patpong 1) when an English guy of around 35 walked in, sat down near to me and ordered a beer.
He was obviously rather upset, must have needed someone to talk to and had obviously chosen me!
He started to tell me his problems.
Oh yes, my final words to him as he left, with his new and attentive playmate, were DON’T FALL IN LOVE! I hope he follows my advice!
Hotman.Well done,mate.
I trust that girl (the fresh one) does not have any sick buffalo at home or the story will start all over again!
7 days at nana hotel
Perhaps you know of a better hotel near the action(guest friendly)Nana Hotel is certainly guest friendly but it is also old and rather rundown. Majestic Suites is a newer hotel in about the same price range as Nana and in the same area (practically just across the street).
Don't how it is these days (it's been 5 years since I've last visited BKK), but I stayed at the Grace Hotel. Definitely guest friendly and 10 minute walk to the action (Nana?).
I'll be back this Christmas and New Year's, but most of my time will be spent in Hua Hin with my GF. No time for mongering unless she's up for it, too.Grace is "ARAB CENTRAL". If it bothers someone, they might not want to stay there.
Kapitansex
12-06-10, 22:55
Hi guys. How's disco club in BKK. How's about CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO. You think could be good to get some thai girls inside?. Any new report about?. Thank in advance to everybody will reply.
I left BKK early the next morning but can not keep from smiling when I think of how I was able to change this guys perception of Thai girls and, hopefully, ensured he enjoyed the rest of his time in Thailand. I will probably never see him again but I must admit that I felt good that I could help a fellow traveller.
Oh yes, my final words to him as he left, with his new and attentive playmate, were DON’T FALL IN LOVE! I hope he follows my advice!
Hotman.Nice story, well done, great advice. If you don't listen, this can out very painful for your heart and also expensive. To a very high % of the time!
Jimmy Red Cab
12-07-10, 01:52
Nana Hotel is certainly guest friendly but it is also old and rather rundown. Majestic Suites is a newer hotel in about the same price range as Nana and in the same area (practically just across the street).
You could also consider Dynasty Inn --- two minutes from Nana Plaza
http://www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnRate.htm
You could also consider Dynasty Inn --- two minutes from Nana Plaza
http://www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnRate.htmWas cheking out dynasty, I noticed it's cheaper. How big are the rooms. They have compact & standard which I was looking at. also I think maybe I want to go to pattaya also.
You could also consider Dynasty Inn --- two minutes from Nana Plaza
http://www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnRate.htmThai is where I stay. Highly recomend. Great staff. Always check id cards. And call to check if your ok when they leave. More like 2 seconds to Nana Plaza.
NicFrenchy
12-07-10, 03:52
Don't how it is these days (it's been 5 years since I've last visited BKK), but I stayed at the Grace Hotel. Definitely guest friendly and 10 minute walk to the action (Nana?).
Unless you are Arab, African or Indian, don't stay at this hotel!! I don't want to sound Racist but as a White man, you will not be very welcome there.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
There are way Better hotels than the Grace... Solo hotel on Soi 2 for example, 5mn walk to Annies and they have a tuk tuk (free) that takes you to Sukhumvit
I normally don't contribute to anything but the photo section but feel compelled to comment.
The last time I was in the Grace Hotel (and it was a while ago), the place was a wild and wooly place. Sort of the like the bar in Star Wars 1. I was there with a bunch of buddies who had just come out of a war zone and we were having fun. We were in a booth and I sat on the back so I could see better. There were some ladies with us including a few US Marines who hadn't been shot at for days. A waiter came over and in the din of 120 decibels told me to sit down. I said if I did I couldn't see anything. At that point he drew a .38 revolver and pointed it at me. I sat down.
And that was before soi 3 became Little Arabia. So don't be too hard on the place. It was once recommended for officers and women during the days when it was an R&R hotel for GI's during the Vietnam war (one of four out of 52).
Thai is where I stay.
:confused:
There isn't any Thai Hotel in this region.
Used to be one near Khao San Road.
Apologies for not being in Bangkok Hotels thread.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
A few years back, I heard a story that a psycho guy murdered a Thai WG in his bedroom one night and hid her and used the "do not disturb" sign. The girl did not pick her Id card in the morning, but no-one worried yet. The next night he got another girl and murdered her as well, so the story goes.
He then checked out, without bodies being found yet and got away.
I did stay there once (years ago) but Thai girls were certainly asking me why I stayed there???? Actually I can't remember why now. I guess places were booked heavy and Grace had a room available.
After so many hours spent on this forum, finally I made my first trip to Bangkok. I'd like to thank you all who contributed so far, so I could pretty much impress my fellow colleagues, who could not believe it's not my first time there :)
A few impressions to share, maybe it'll be in use for someone.. This is all personal experience, so it might be completely wrong as well.
- I can just confirm that by the evening it's far better to get the BTS to the action rather than taxi; we had serious issues even to get a taxi to the action point from where we stood (Klongsan) - taxi drivers categorically refused to take us to anywhere in Suk
- I followed a previous advice to get Apcalis (pharmacy aside NEP after the petrol station) and it worked like charm. Original was 2k, generic 400. Noone asked for anything else than the banknotes :) As a remark, I saw at least 10 places on the street selling the same stuff, obviously I have no idea whether it's not fake
- We visited Annie's on Sunday afternoon, but the selection was very poor... Maybe 20 girls, none of them hitting the bottom line of being interesting. It was funny to see another monger guy, I had the impression that he didn't know any other place and was hesitant to leave without score, but saw none of them fancy enough :) Mamasan did her best to catch - ordered the girls to stand and rotate and convincing poor fellow to choose... and he just shake his head and kept looking around embarrassed. We just finished our beer and left for better fields.
- We visited Poseidon, with almost the same result and ended up at Lord. There was definitely a much smaller selection than usual (there was a real fishbowl of a side of a theater :), but nice girls, exorbitant rates (from 2.6k until 5.x k if I remember well). We have chosen from the economy side, still pretty enough girls I think. The soapie was an interesting experience (being slowly massaged and bathed, with a very professional COB, then a short ride and I off I went). The girl has to be very good, usually I cannot be shot so quick, but otherwise rather mechanical and cold. Not my cup of tea.
- Spent a lot of time in Cowboy, visiting the bars which were recommended here. My personal favorite was Baccara, for the concept and the quality of girls (ground floor only, we didn't venture up to the second floor). There was one particular night, when we just could not find any of the bars interesting - I can't tell you whether our mood was different or all our kind of girls were already BFed. We had been in one with naked girls (Sheebas?), but the poor souls were so obviously embarrassed dancing naked that it spoiled the fun. The shows we have seen were quite freaky - balloons shot with darts(?) from their pussy and such - no, thanks for me.
- We have been in NEP just once, myself in two bars: Rainbow 4 (worth the effort, very good level) and Mandarin (this one was a failure for me, the concept is nice with the close proximity of the girls, but there was no one I found fancy enough to enjoy).
- On the first evening in Baccara I have chosen a SYT (she said she's 24). Could be max 40 kg (she was apologizing if she's too heavy sitting in my lap, good joke, my 12 y.o. son is heavier than that), thin, nice face, nonexistent breasts. She was one of the few dancing with some emotion, smiling, while the majority was like a crowd on the subway, getting to work bored :) She squeezed out 2 lady drinks of me, then I raised the question if she want to be taken. She immediately stated 2k ST. Sorry guys, I didn't bargain. Also following the advices here, I took her to the 7/11 and she politely chosen only a fruit juice only. Hotel staff didn't bat an eyelid, girl handed over her ID without questions. Service was very good, we took a bath together (what a difference to the soapie earlier!) and jumped to the bed. She wasn't too professional or practiced, but very enthusiastic. Once we're done, she said she'd like to stay, but she can't as she is having a job nighttime somewhere - I don't know if it's true or not, but as I had to work by the morning, I didn't care
- I went back to Baccara 2 days later, she literally jumped out of the stage and hugged me. I coughed up 2 drinks and the barfine and off we went. We had more time then, so after action we spent quite a time chatting. Her english was quite enough to discuss a few points I was very interested. She said she works only in Baccara and only on the ground floor ( I asked if she could choose, but she said no, pointing on her handful titties she's not big enough in chest for that :). It was very funny when she said she wouldn't be too happy of it anyway, as 'they're showing everything to the customers without being paid for it'. I began to be sleepy and she again stated she cannot stay, but would come back by the morning... Sadly it was my last night and I had to be at the airport by 10AM, so I declined. She was crying a bit silently on my shoulder - I have to admit I'm not sure why and I didn't ask her either, thinking whatever is the reason, there's hardly anything I can do), then I had to promise 10x that if I ever get back to Bangkok I'll find her. I also declined to exchange phone or email - what's the point? She left with some last kisses and hugs and I left with fond memories - and empty balls :)
- There was a discussion earlier about racism in the bars: I personally witnessed being outside of Rainbow 4 for smoking, that 4 Middle-Eastern guy was sent away from there by the bouncers stating that the next bar on the right is better... They tried to stand ground, but without success. Caucasians meanwhile kept to be invited.
I had a very nice impression and intended to return if I'll be able to manage it :) Thanks again to all contributing forum members for their helpful advices!
A few years back, I heard a story that a psycho guy murdered a Thai WG in his bedroom one night and hid her and used the "do not disturb" sign. The girl did not pick her Id card in the morning, but no-one worried yet. The next night he got another girl and murdered her as well, so the story goes.
He then checked out, without bodies being found yet and got away.
I did stay there once (years ago) but Thai girls were certainly asking me why I stayed there???? Actually I can't remember why now. I guess places were booked heavy and Grace had a room available.
Is this the Thai version of Hotel California..? (cfr The Eagles) LOL
Suntangh R
12-07-10, 12:17
Unless you are Arab, African or Indian, don't stay at this hotel!! I don't want to sound Racist but as a White man, you will not be very welcome there.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
There are way Better hotels than the Grace... Solo hotel on Soi 2 for example, 5mn walk to Annies and they have a tuk tuk (free) that takes you to SukhumvitI dont think that Indian non- muslims stay, or would prefer to stay there!
Jimmy Red Cab
12-07-10, 15:16
Thai is where I stay. Highly recomend. Great staff. Always check id cards. And call to check if your ok when they leave. More like 2 seconds to Nana Plaza.
Dynasty Inn is girl friendly but they do charge if you take two girls up to the room.
Went out last night for a few bevvies on cowboy. Hit all the major spots. Shark was packed as usual. A girl I was keen on came up to me and started chatting. Silicone implants and a map of the world on her stomach. Looked about 28-30 years of age. Wanted 2, 000 baht for short time and would not come down. I quickly sent her away. It's laughable what the rates are these days. A 30-year old with stretch marks wants 2k for short time. Give me a fucking break. I'm off to Pattaya in a few weeks where the prices aren't so ridiculously high.
It's laughable what the rates are these days. A 30-year old with stretch marks wants 2k for short time. Give me a fucking break. I'm off to Pattaya in a few weeks where the prices aren't so ridiculously high.I think you'll be equally surprised at how ridiculous the prices are in Pattaya these days too!
Pahllus Maximus
12-08-10, 09:35
Great report Hotman. The oldest trick, the sick water buffalo for the farang walking ATM. New SIM card, discard Richard Nixon's gmail account, etc. You have done a wonderful, humanitarian service to the other chap, who no doubt soon afterwards was providing a thorough tonsil and cervix massage. Nothing like a deep shot in a girls mouth to cheer a fellow up.
By all means have fun, but never let the oxytocin from little brain be exploited by shrewd, instant crocodile tears bar girls.
Dynasty Inn is girl friendly but they do charge if you take two girls up to the room.Sorry wanted to type "this is where I stay" not "Thai is where I stay". I have taken 2 girls back to the Dynasty many times never been charged. Maybe difference in the staff?
Kapitansex
12-08-10, 12:03
Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January.
Hotman 666
12-08-10, 12:22
I think you'll be equally surprised at how ridiculous the prices are in Pattaya these days too!Not always!
In Pattaya I am a big fan of the 'Coconut Bar' (Beach Road.) and was last there just over one week ago.
Prices are still, in my opinion, more than reasonable there with S. T. Being available at 500 Baht with no bar fine or lady drinks to pay for. (And, during the afternoons, many girls are happy to stay several hours for that price!)
OK, I must admit that not every Beach Road. Girl is a stunner but there are enough young, enthusiastic sweeties out there to make the search worthwhile.
In the Bar Beers (especially those on 2nd Road.) an average bar fine is 300 Baht plus a donation of around 1000 Baht for L. T. For your playmate.
Again, not such bad value by my standards even with the current exchange rate of less than 50 Baht for each of my English £'s!
I also managed to score some freebees! One was a Cambodian / Thai girl from Hua Hin who had a wait of more than 3 hours before she was to meet her brother.
In order to make her wait rather more pleasant I, (being a nice guy and Jai Dee) offered her the use of my room (and my body) which she was more than happy to accept!
Another was a black African tourist who, after a chat and a coffee, was happy to keep me company for 24 hours or so and was absolutely GREAT in bed.
By the way, the envious looks of other guys who could not help but notice me (a rather old and very white farrang) together with her (a young, slim, and VERY attractive black girl) were great and the experience certainly made a change from the usual L. B. F. M. S.
There is something available for all of us at a wide range of prices.
So, in my opinion, unless you are looking for that 'perfect 10 trophy fuck' (who may well turn out to be a starfish anyway) there is no need to pay the exorbitant prices that some of the Go Go or disco girls are asking.
Just put in a little work and your efforts will be repaid.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Distantpeak
12-08-10, 12:44
I think you'll be equally surprised at how ridiculous the prices are in Pattaya these days too!I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over.
On a similar vein, there is a new Indian restaurant several hundred metres up Soi 4 which must have opened very recently. Walked past it a least twice a day, but never saw a single cstomer there, but the same rather desperate looking waiter outside. How or why the owner thinks it can survive so far from passing trade beats me.One night I went by intending to eat. Sat down outside and they plunked a menu down that must have weighed 5 pounds. That immediately told me that this place was more expensive than I had been hoping for. Sure enough. Appetizers were nearly 300 baht, the meal 300 baht. With drinks and bread it would come to 1000 baht. I got up. Told them that their prices were crazy and went and got food at an Indian place on Suk for 1/2 the price. There was an Indian place there before. Bollywood. That went out of biz because it too was expensive. How they think by changing the name they will succeed is beyond me. All the Indian places around Suk are expensive really. I mean it's chicken and rice. Why do they charge twice what Thai chicken curry is which is chicken and rice.
Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January. CM2 and Nana exist for the sole purpose of getting guys together with working girls. I think Supperclub is a more upscale and expensive place with non-working girls in there. Climax on Soi 11 is also full of girls who will find everything you say funny and interesting and tell you how handsome you are.
Not always!
In Pattaya I am a big fan of the 'Coconut Bar' (Beach Road.) and was last there just over one week ago.
Prices are still, in my opinion, more than reasonable there with S. T. Being available at 500 Baht with no bar fine or lady drinks to pay for. (And, during the afternoons, many girls are happy to stay several hours for that price!)
OK, I must admit that not every Beach Road. Girl is a stunner but there are enough young, enthusiastic sweeties out there to make the search worthwhile.
I wish some of you fans of Beach Road would show pictures of these lovely girls you see because I have traversed that stretch of road hundreds of time and never. I mean never. Seen a girl I would go with. That guys do boggles my mind. I'd rather do it myself. These girls belong in the Skank Hall of Shame.
"I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over."
I use to feel the same way but the trend is alarming. I have seen prices double in baht terms and more with the dollar dropping over the past 5 years. It's not hard to imagine that some day Thailand will go the way of Korea and Japan and will get priced out of the range of many of us. And after Thailand there really isn't anywhere else worth hanging your hat. Also,"awful job" is a relative term. Compared to what they would do otherwise. Work 12 hours in a 7-11 for 3000 baht a month, work in a factory doing the same repetitive thing for 12 hours. 28 days a month for 5000 baht or working on a farm planting and cutting rice? These girls make more money than Professors, cops (not including bribes of course) , govt officials and probably 99% of Thais. Of course they spend it just as fast!
Kapitansex
12-08-10, 22:55
CM2 and Nana exist for the sole purpose of getting guys together with working girls. I think Supperclub is a more upscale and expensive place with non-working girls in there. Climax on Soi 11 is also full of girls who will find everything you say funny and interesting and tell you how handsome you are.Thank you.
Thai is where I stay. Highly recomend. Great staff. Always check id cards. And call to check if your ok when they leave. More like 2 seconds to Nana Plaza.Agreed, and if memory serves correctly, they offer a free shuttle from their hotel in Bangkok to the one in Pattaya, so a few days in the city and then a free drive to the beach. Excellent!
Went out last night for a few bevvies on cowboy. Hit all the major spots. Shark was packed as usual. A girl I was keen on came up to me and started chatting. Silicone implants and a map of the world on her stomach. Looked about 28-30 years of age. Wanted 2, 000 baht for short time and would not come down. I quickly sent her away. It's laughable what the rates are these days. A 30-year old with stretch marks wants 2k for short time. Give me a fucking break. I'm off to Pattaya in a few weeks where the prices aren't so ridiculously high.It seems 2000 baht is what they want for short time at Soi Cowboy. Plus the 600 or 700 bar fine. Isn't Nana 2500? You probably can get that ugly girl at the bar to accept a lower tip, but I wouldn't know that for sure. LOL!
Pattaya isn't that much cheaper. It's between 600 to 1000 bar fine plus 1500 to 2000 tip for short time.
Note that these comments are for the better decent go-go bars in Thailand (we're not in the US or Europe; yes it is lot more expensive in the US; $70 for 2 or 3 hours compared to $150-200 for half an hour).
Ya there are 500 baht SW on beach road, but I agree with that other post; it's laughable when people say there are stunners there. But one man's pig is another man's lovely. To each his own.
Ya there are 500 baht SW on beach road, but I agree with that other post; it's laughable when people say there are stunners there. But one man's pig is another man's lovely. To each his own.BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit. Ironically, in the daylight of Beach Road, what you see is what you get, unlike a darkly lit Go-Go Bar or hostess club. And no overpriced lady drinks to keep a mamasan's breath out of your face.
A little sun, a little ocean air, a little sand in your toes. Add a little pussy and you have the makings of a good time, for not a lot of baht.
BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit. Ironically, in the daylight of Beach Road, what you see is what you get, unlike a darkly lit Go-Go Bar or hostess club. And no overpriced lady drinks to keep a mamasan's breath out of your face.
A little sun, a little ocean air, a little sand in your toes. Add a little pussy and you have the makings of a good time, for not a lot of baht. The girls in the picture you posted were decent. Takes time to fine those type of girls on beach road. They probably will want at least 700 baht? Still cheap though. On my personal scale, they would be a 6; maybe a 5 because they are older; probably moms.
I prefer 7s. There are usually no absolute stunners in normal bars of Pattaya IMO. Why would a Heidi Fleiss type of girl do it for 2000 baht when they can get a lot more in the special places of Bangkok.
It's a lot more money (2700 compared to 700) for a small jump in quality. But that's like every capital good (such as food, alcohol and weed). But you only live once.
Pointy Stick
12-09-10, 07:20
Can anyone suggest a decent, clean and reasonably priced ST roon around the Grace Hotel area? I want to give one of those 'stans a whirl but don't really to bring her back to my hotel.
Sorry in advance if this is a repetitive question but I'm not that familar with the area.
BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit...You make an excellent point, Fon Tok, and I agree with you 100%. So why did you then contradict yourself with a photo of two barkers at the Coconut Bar? :D
I've seen a lot better than those two out there, and I bet you have too.
You make an excellent point, Fon Tok, and I agree with you 100%. So why did you then contradict yourself with a photo of two barkers at the Coconut Bar? :D I've seen a lot better than those two out there, and I bet you have too.Daddy: I know, I know.
But they don't all stay still enough to have their photos taken. Maybe you'll like this one a little better?
El Frances
12-09-10, 08:23
Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January. You can also try "Bangkok Beat" if you want to start earlier (I. E. 11:00) before going to disco. Spicy is also good for late clubing (after 2 am) , as Climax.
PS In those places, you will most likely meet girls in the 28-32 year old range
Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January. I know about CM2, if you really want to get laid, it will be hard not to find a girl there. Beware though, lots of lady boys. Largely CIS girls, some Thai and a small sprinkling of African girls. Headed to BKK next week, but I don't need to go to CM2 for my CIS fix anymore.
Cheers.
Daddy: I know, I know.
But they don't all stay still enough to have their photos taken. Maybe you'll like this one a little better? Nice... bet she was a real looker... maybe 15-20 years ago? :D
Here's an example of a little Beach Road girl who stays still for her photo (and other things) :
I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over.When comparing the gogo scene in BKK vs. Pattaya the prices don't vary all that much. In fact, I find that most of the BKK gogo girls go for cheaper than their counterparts in Pattaya.
The gogo scene in Pattaya is probably the worst deal in all of Pattaya. The freelance / beer bar scene is infinitely better in Pattaya, however.
Nice. Bet she was a real looker. Maybe 15-20 years ago? .
Here's an example of a little Beach Road girl who stays still for her photo (and other things) :Yes, you obviously do know where to pick your fruit from the coconut tree!
BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit. Ironically, in the daylight of Beach Road, what you see is what you get, unlike a darkly lit Go-Go Bar or hostess club. And no overpriced lady drinks to keep a mamasan's breath out of your face.
A little sun, a little ocean air, a little sand in your toes. Add a little pussy and you have the makings of a good time, for not a lot of baht. I just have to go with my own personal experience, I just never see anything remotely nice walking the beat. If there is, then my timing has been bad. Sometimes I'll see one at a distance that looks ok but upon closer inspection they look older, worn and just not worth my time. Economics is King. There is a reason these girls price themselves at 500 baht when other girls in Pattaya are getting 1000 and up. They are not dumb, they just know where they stand on the Desirable Pyramid, at the bottom.
Another session in SOL. I picked Phung from outside and fucked her there and then in the bar, multiple positions. I supplied the condom, not sure if she would have insisted, have seen BBFS there in the past. Finished me off with a BJ. Apologies if you were the guy who came in to get a BJ in the toilet and saw my pasty behind bobbing away.
Quite satisfying.
People moan about the quality of the girls, but she's a real cutie in my view.
Stayed around Silom area for the evening. And journeyed around Patpong. Pretty depressing. Seems its suffering an identity crisis. The bar on the bridge has removed the curtains so you can see the girls dancing as you walk down PPII. But no lookers. Electric blue 9pm. 6 dancers. 2 patrons, dancers in bikini tops and bottoms. Mama said she can't remember a December so quiet. Pressured into BF / LD so left after just one. Popped my head into Safari. Even quieter. Nothing goin on but the rent.
KCI. A few more dancers but nothing to persuade me to stay. On PPII side on one of the connecting roads Kings have opened a kind of beer bar with live music, and opposite it a beer bar with pool tables. They are both pretty much open, were virtually empty and I've no idea who they are aimed at. The prevalence of annoying *s thrusting menus and pamphlets and gay DVDs in your face does not add to the ambience.
SOL is the only reason to go to PP these days I think. Although I want to try out Mike's bar too one day. Any dissenting views or was this just a bad day at the office for PP?
Nice. Bet she was a real looker. Maybe 15-20 years ago? .
Here's an example of a little Beach Road girl who stays still for her photo (and other things) :Finally, a man who knows what 'beauty' means.
I just have to go with my own personal experience, I just never see anything remotely nice walking the beat. If there is, then my timing has been bad. Sometimes I'll see one at a distance that looks ok but upon closer inspection they look older, worn and just not worth my time. Economics is King. There is a reason these girls price themselves at 500 baht when other girls in Pattaya are getting 1000 and up. They are not dumb, they just know where they stand on the Desirable Pyramid, at the bottom.There used to be nice ones "sprinkled" throughout the 3 kilometer stretch. In the last year or so the quality has dropped considerably. The time and effort required to find these "diamonds in the rough" is barely worth it, unless you enjoy spending most of your time in Pattaya and enjoy the city and beach. The cuter ones tend to aim high like 600-700b also.
The reason you don't see many of the young cute ones is because the supply is so low and if they are there they have already been grabbed. You're not the only one looking for the cute ones! Competition for good pussy (sexy 18-20yo) in Pattaya during the high season is fierce.
When comparing the gogo scene in BKK vs. Pattaya the prices don't vary all that much. In fact, I find that most of the BKK gogo girls go for cheaper than their counterparts in Pattaya.
The gogo scene in Pattaya is probably the worst deal in all of Pattaya. The freelance / beer bar scene is infinitely better in Pattaya, however. Agreed. The gogo scene in Pattaya is only good for entertainment. Best not to do much barfining there unless you get lucky and find a girl who wants you. The disco freelance scene, however, is great, much better than Bangkok. And even some of the Soi 6 girls will give you a great time compared to the gogo girls.
In Bangkok the gogo girls are often pretty good and not too expensive, aside from a few overly popular places like Baccara, which are more like Pattaya in that they're only good for looking, not touching.
Hotman 666
12-10-10, 11:46
SOL is the only reason to go to PP these days I think. Although I want to try out Mike's bar too one day. Any dissenting views or was this just a bad day at the office for PP?Goatboy,
You are correct about Patpong. It has lost its No. 1 spot some years ago,
I have stayed in the Suriwong Road, area, very near Patpong, for probably 20 years or so and on each of my visits it seems to have got worse!
A few examples.
When I first started to travel to BKK there were, at least. 15 or 20 'Naughty Upstairs Bars. ' Now there is just ONE that is not a rip of!
Anyone remember Touch Bar (Formerly Cleopatra) next to the Thai Boxing on the South side of Patpong 1 near Suriwong Road End. I think that it was the first 'upstairs bar' that I visited on my very first trip to BKK many years ago. Although quite small it was one of my favorites. I must admit I shed a tear or two when it closed. I think that the old manager still works in Patpong 1 at Pussy Galore.
Tip Top was then open 24/7 and you could find many dancers, who had earned good money that night, eating, with friends, after the bars closed. Rather good for a late night pick up if you had not met anyone earlier who 'Tickled your Fancy. ' And, without any bar fine or lady drinks!
During the afternoon KFC at the Suriwong Road end was great for freelancers. There always seemed to be one or two attractive young girls, with a few hours to spare looking for company. I have fond memories of one deaf and dumb girl I found there. We communicated in sign language and by using a notebook and after half an hour or so agreed that we 'might be more comfortable' watching TV at my nearby hotel. She was rather shy to start with and wanted me to turn of all the lights in my room until I explained to her that if it was completely dark we would 'not be able to talk! '
Also, in those days, many of the dancers at the bars seemed to arrive for work very early and could often be found hanging around waiting for 'their bar' to open. Quite easy to fix up something with them for then or later (and see them in the light!)
Thai Room, on Patpong 2 always offered some good choices of food (and, I think, was also open 24/7.) Although it is still open it is now just a shadow of it's former self.
Oh. The good old days! Perhaps it's time for an 'old farrang' to move to pastures new but I still have a certain affection for the area.
Hotman.
Goatboy,
You are correct about Patpong. It has lost its No. 1 spot some years ago,
I have stayed in the Suriwong Road, area, very near Patpong, for probably 20 years or so and on each of my visits it seems to have got worse!
A few examples.
When I first started to travel to BKK there were, at least. 15 or 20 'Naughty Upstairs Bars. ' Now there is just ONE that is not a rip of!
Oh. The good old days! Perhaps it's time for an 'old farrang' to move to pastures new but I still have a certain affection for the area.
Hotman. Very nice nostalgic post. It seems that commercialism has hit Patpong. I've seen another reference to the one and only one non-rip-off upstairs Bar. Can you or someone else please share with us the name of this Bar?
Thanks in advance.
Life
Unless you are Arab, African or Indian, don't stay at this hotel! I don't want to sound Racist but as a White man, you will not be very welcome there.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
There are way Better hotels than the Grace. Solo hotel on Soi 2 for example. 5mn walk to Annies and they have a tuk tuk (free) that takes you to SukhumvitI would recommend a hotel but it's too far from Annies.
I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over.The problem is that it's irrelevant how much things cost back home. Once the prices go up because of people feeling lucky to pay less than in their own country, these prices, with time, just might approach what is paid back home. And we'll be facing the Thai version of a hardcore con artist that the West is known for. I guess the men in each country get what they deserve. Higher prices in LOS bring inferior service and bad attitude. Everything should be in proportion. In a country where one is lucky to make 10K baht / month 2K+ for LT in BKK is a lot of cash.
Agreed. The gogo scene in Pattaya is only good for entertainment. Best not to do much barfining there unless you get lucky and find a girl who wants you. The disco freelance scene, however, is great, much better than Bangkok. And even some of the Soi 6 girls will give you a great time compared to the gogo girls.
In Bangkok the gogo girls are often pretty good and not too expensive, aside from a few overly popular places like Baccara, which are more like Pattaya in that they're only good for looking, not touching. I have to agree on freelancers in BKK. Did the Q-Bar then Climax scene last night. Was not easy.
I was expecting a lot higher talent in Q-Bar. 700 baht entrance so you get 2 drinks though so not too bad. Really nothing stunning in there. Solid 8s but nothing jumped out at me. I talked to a hot one with a bunch of girls and she seemed like she was stringing me along and not ready to go to my hotel right away. I bailed and went to Climax.
Climax is so frigging dark. Again a few hot ones but overall take it or leave it. I had a hot one play games again with me and would not commit. Ouch. Is it me? LOL.
Finally got a newbie to the business on the way out. Very inexperiened which is good sometimes. Worked out well but she spoke zero English so ST it was.
Thinking of Spasso tonight but why should I torture myself again. Baccara had the hottest girls last night. Japanese all over the place in there. I can see how it could be very hit or miss on performance with the Baccara girls.
Hi.
There are 3 older women in their fifties at Nana Hotel and carparking.
I have seen them there for many years, and I've never seen them with a "customer"
Does anyone know more about them?
BL
Even some of the Soi 6 girls will give you a great time compared to the go-go girls.Recently spent a week in Pattaya and was pleasantly surprised by the Soi 6 scene. I am very picky when it comes to looks, but every time I visited Soi 6 I saw three or four girls who to my eye were just as hot as the girls dancing in the go-go bars. The bars on the north side of Soi 6 seemed to have a better selection. (Too many lady boys at the bars across the street.) And I had better luck near Second Road than at the bars closer to the beach.
I was also impressed by the quality of the service. I was expecting a rushed session with a distracted girl in a depressing room a la the Zone Norte in Tijuana. Boy, was I wrong. The girls were only too happy to start by sitting with me in the bar. There was no pressure to buy a lady drink, but there was plenty of snuggling, kissing and fondling. Hanging out in a cool dark bar in the middle of the afternoon, sipping my favorite beverage while a young hottie has her hand jammed in between my legs was very nice indeed. It was totally hot to know that if I chose we'd be upstairs in five minutes.
Speaking of upstairs, I was again pleasantly surprised. The rooms weren't lavish, but they were clean and comfortable with good air conditioning. Showering together with the girl was always a nice way to start, and once we proceeded to the main event I was not disappointed. The girls I went with were eager to please and accommodated my (admittedly pedestrian) desires. I particularly remember one fresh-faced sweetie at the Bar Mod who finished our session with a superb bareback blowjob to completion. After swallowing without complaint, we cuddled for a few minutes listening to the sounds of the street. After a quick second shower I headed out with a spring in my step.
The girls were always happy with 700 baht and they didn't badger me for a tip. Add in 300 for the bar and 50 for my drink and for about USD $35 I got to spend nearly an hour with a hottie who would be absolutely, totally, without question out of my league in my hometown. THAT, my friends, represents value for money.
Bunky
Bkk Rookie
12-12-10, 03:13
SOL is the only reason to go to PP these days I think. Although I want to try out Mike's bar too one day. Any dissenting views or was this just a bad day at the office for PP?Not a complete dissent, but there is more to Patpong than you report. I spent considerable time at SuperStar over the summer and found it acceptable. The music is classic rock circa 70's and 80's (so you can flashback to what it was like when you were in college as you pick-up on college-age cuties!)
The pressure to barfine is a lot less than what you find in Nana, though you will get worked a little. There is a service girl there named "Lek" who doesn't go with customers, but will keep the girls away from you, translate English-Thai when needed (moderate skill) and is generally a pleasant person.
The girls range from 5's to 9's. Aged 18-30. A few immediately appearant post-op LBs.
Earlier is better, late-night can have limited options (which is true for all of Patpong. Go before 10pm).
As for the rest of Patpong, I found the bars packed with girls early in the night, something for everyone. Later it thins out, so someone is getting laid.
Bkk Rookie
12-12-10, 03:19
Can anyone suggest a decent, clean and reasonably priced ST roon around the Grace Hotel area? I want to give one of those 'stans a whirl but don't really to bring her back to my hotel.
Sorry in advance if this is a repetitive question but I'm not that familar with the area. If no one else has already stated this. The girls know where to go. You don't need to know.
However, there are three in the immediate area. One near Suk, one a bit down deeper into Suk (closer to Ploenchit) and one on a side-soi.
Pick your lady, let her pick the short-time hotel.
That said, the Grace is monger heaven for Muslims, no one will bat an eye. You could bring in a flock of bargirls, mixed with Nigerians and a few lady-boys and no one would say a thing.
Bkk Rookie
12-12-10, 03:25
Shark was packed as usual. -- Wanted 2, 000 baht for short timeYup, that's the going rate. However, you don't have to get the stretch mark baby momma.
I suggest #14 (I never remember names). Twenty-years-old, naturally wet, GGG, and with a smoking body. Very nice mew and actually has some junk in the trunk, sans cellulite.
I'm no longer in BKK, so no fear in sharing a good find.
.....naturally wet, GGG, and with a smoking body.....Any photos?
What does GGG mean?
NicFrenchy
12-12-10, 07:10
Any photos?
What does GGG mean? Was going to ask the same thing. GGG? Not familiar with that term
I had a long layover in BKK and I thought I would make the most of it. I had planned on arriving Saturday afternoon, hit a massage Parlor, then go clubbing for a freelancer later and then top it off with a massage visit Sunday morning / afternoon.
My first stop was at Teen Love Massage. I was not impressed by the selection there and I was on my way to Tulip. On my way I passed Snow White, so I thought I would give it a look. Selection was not very good here either, but one girl was very cute and I selected her. Her name was View. 20 years old, been working at SW for only 2 months. Standard routine as posted here many times. BBBJ was good, creamed her with a facial, then capped for some doggy. I then want to change positions and have her ride me. As I pulled out and layed down I noticed she was bleeding. Damn she was on her period. This totally turned me off and she noticed I was pissed. She offered her arse if I would like. She cleaned me up in the shower and then proceeded with a long BBBJ again. I capped, lubed with KY and then entered slowly. Damn she had the tightest ass I've ever had. Rode that for about 15 minutes, but I didn't want to waste any more bullets, so I held of on cumming again.
Total damage: 1900.
Would I repeat: Yes, but not with period.
Freelancers:
Most the bars / clubs were closed due to the elections. This put a damper on my nighttime plans. I cruised lower Sukhumvit. Damn there is alot of ladyboys in this area and some of them are just nasty ass looking. I did have my eye on one young 18 year old, but before I could pull the trigger, a guy grabed her hand and said 2500 and off they went. Pricing was generally quoted at 1500 ST with some of the less attractive asking 1000. I ended up just going home alone and resting.
Sunday: Tulip.
Took the BTS up to Thong Lo. Tulip is looked off of Exit 4. Mamasen showed me the book and only about half were available. I selected Cherry. 24 years old cuty. Very nice small perky breasts. First thing I noticed when getting in the room was how small and nasty it was compaired to Snow White. The showers at Tulip really need to be gutted and re-done.
Cherry ended up being a good choice. BBBJ with facial. Then she rode me for a long time. A little too much grinding for me. Switched condoms and lubed up with KY for some anal action. Her arse was very loose. After tapping it for about 15 minutes I asked her to clean me off and give me a good HJ with another facial with she gladly did with a smile.
Total Damage: 1900 + 300 tip.
Stopped by Livingstone's Lodge to check it out today. Looks like a good place to stay. I'll check it out on my next trip.
Now I'm off to the airport.
Fitz
Bkk Rookie
12-12-10, 09:15
Was going to ask the same thing. GGG? Not familiar with that termIt's from Dan Savage, an American sex-advice columnist. It stands for "Good, Giving and Game," which means she seemingly will try most anything with no complaints.
One small exception, she's not much for deep-throat kissing, but she can be very passionate and sensual with slight french kissing.
She comes easily, but doesn't complain when you keep doing whatever you're doing.
Somewhere15
12-12-10, 15:53
Believe it or not but this was Soi Cowboys Saturday evening around 8 PM.
Nearly everything was closed, thanks to the ruling that bars / pubs etc. Are forbidden to serve their customers alcohol.
Never had seen this, being a frequent visitor for years.
I could imagine that this was the view in April / May when Bangkok was hit by the confrontation between Red shirts and the military (I wasn't there in that timeframe).
Anyhow still some pretty girls there.
One was willing to go to my hotel.
A large / tall girl (app. 5ft7) , around 60 kg. (but not fat) and had a funny time.
Upfront I discussed that I wanted to take pictures. Sorry she asked not to use the face pics and as gentlemen.
1. 500 THB. 150 THB taxi fee and. No bar fine; thanks to the Thai government&61514; .
Somewhere15
12-12-10, 15:56
Believe it or not but this was Soi Cowboys Saturday evening around 8 PM.
Nearly everything was closed, thanks to the ruling that bars / pubs etc. Are forbidden to serve their customers alcohol.
Never had seen this, being a frequent visitor for years.
I could imagine that this was the view in April / May when Bangkok was hit by the confrontation between Red shirts and the military (I wasn't there in that timeframe).
Anyhow still some pretty girls there.
One was willing to go to my hotel.
A large / tall girl (app. 5ft7) , around 60 kg. (but not fat) and had a funny time.
Upfront I discussed that I wanted to take pictures. Sorry she asked not to use the face pics and as gentlemen.
1. 500 THB. 150 THB taxi fee and. No bar fine; thanks to the Thai government&61514; . As the system not allows for more than 10 pics per post here the rest.
I have to agree on freelancers in BKK. Did the Q-Bar then Climax scene last night. Was not easy.
I was expecting a lot higher talent in Q-Bar. 700 baht entrance so you get 2 drinks though so not too bad. Really nothing stunning in there. Solid 8s but nothing jumped out at me. I talked to a hot one with a bunch of girls and she seemed like she was stringing me along and not ready to go to my hotel right away. I bailed and went to Climax.
Climax is so frigging dark. Again a few hot ones but overall take it or leave it. I had a hot one play games again with me and would not commit. Ouch. Is it me? LOL.
Finally got a newbie to the business on the way out. Very inexperiened which is good sometimes. Worked out well but she spoke zero English so ST it was.
Thinking of Spasso tonight but why should I torture myself again. Baccara had the hottest girls last night. Japanese all over the place in there. I can see how it could be very hit or miss on performance with the Baccara girls. I've been to Climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. Also been to Nana Liquid, Bangkok Beat, and Thermae and had no luck. It's just not that great of a scene in Bangkok for some reason. With all the girls in Bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
When you're in Bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places.
Tiradentes
12-12-10, 18:23
Remember this: 543. An easy sequence, no? Look at the I'd, subtract 543 from the birth year and what's left is the Western birth year.
GL / HFWhat is the legal age in Thailand?
If it is 21, than any number greater than 543+21= 564 is good. Right?
I've been in BKK for the past 6 weeks and will be in LOS till April. I've been using a mix of gogos, massages and dating sites with good success. Pulled a nice non pro from a dating site but I'm getting tired of her and silly games like she needs to get drunk ti show any emotions. I don't have time for that. I've also had a good time at climax and got a fine freebie there from a solid 8 little spinner. As well as a couple of #s from there. These are girls that are not asking for any money other than a good time. Last night mist everything was closed. Nana was a ghost town. A few bars / gogos were open but no alcohol.
Went to climax, closed as well, then went to bossy, packed, booze was on the menu but didn't get a good vibe from the girls there. There quite a few ruskies and one even wanted to go with me at the end if the night but got the feeling she would be a ripp off so passed. On my way to my hotel saw a cutie with big boobs so took her LT for 1k. She was ok, nothing to write home about.
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? Btw, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand
of condoms gents?
I will be in BKK for the next few months and would like to get together with some guys from her ti go hunting together but also share stories, experiences and go clubbing together. So anyone in town, hit me up by pm or by posting it here.
Cheers.
SirCharlie
12-12-10, 22:11
I live in BKK and know the scene here pretty well. Happy to meet up for a prowl.
I've been in BKK for the past 6 weeks and will be in LOS till April. I've been using a mix of gogos, massages and dating sites with good success. Pulled a nice non pro from a dating site but I'm getting tired of her and silly games like she needs to get drunk ti show any emotions. I don't have time for that. I've also had a good time at climax and got a fine freebie there from a solid 8 little spinner. As well as a couple of #s from there. These are girls that are not asking for any money other than a good time. Last night mist everything was closed. Nana was a ghost town. A few bars / gogos were open but no alcohol.
Went to climax, closed as well, then went to bossy, packed, booze was on the menu but didn't get a good vibe from the girls there. There quite a few ruskies and one even wanted to go with me at the end if the night but got the feeling she would be a ripp off so passed. On my way to my hotel saw a cutie with big boobs so took her LT for 1k. She was ok, nothing to write home about.
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? BTW, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand
Of condoms gents?
I will be in BKK for the next few months and would like to get together with some guys from her ti go hunting together but also share stories, experiences and go clubbing together. So anyone in town, hit me up by pm or by posting it here.
Cheers
Kapitansex
12-12-10, 22:57
I've been in BKK for the past 6 weeks and will be in LOS till April. I've been using a mix of gogos, massages and dating sites with good success. Pulled a nice non pro from a dating site but I'm getting tired of her and silly games like she needs to get drunk ti show any emotions. I don't have time for that. I've also had a good time at climax and got a fine freebie there from a solid 8 little spinner. As well as a couple of #s from there. These are girls that are not asking for any money other than a good time. Last night mist everything was closed. Nana was a ghost town. A few bars / gogos were open but no alcohol.
Went to climax, closed as well, then went to bossy, packed, booze was on the menu but didn't get a good vibe from the girls there. There quite a few ruskies and one even wanted to go with me at the end if the night but got the feeling she would be a ripp off so passed. On my way to my hotel saw a cutie with big boobs so took her LT for 1k. She was ok, nothing to write home about.
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? BTW, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand
Of condoms gents?
I will be in BKK for the next few months and would like to get together with some guys from her ti go hunting together but also share stories, experiences and go clubbing together. So anyone in town, hit me up by pm or by posting it here.
Cheers. Hi,
I'm Tony from Italy an I'll be in BKK from 10th jan up to 24th. We can meet there. I'm not able to send you PM but you can write me on PM or try to give us a meeting point. I'll be in Admiral Premiere soi 23 Sukhumvit.
Went to Shock 39 Disco on Sat night as beneath Ambassador closed for elections in Wattana district.
Can't say I was impressed at all.
Very packed out. Air con not coping at all as was very smoky. Eyes stinging and hard to breath and then there was the BO of a motley crew of patrons. A few nice looking Thai girls gyrating and doing there stuff and trying hard not to get groped by the ugly foreigners with no manners.
The DJ was a cool dude (black man) but a total idiot in my veiw, the way he tried to mix multiple songs together hearing no more than 30 seconds of any decent song with a musical nature. A lot of Hip Hop thump. There a couple of snippets from Michael Jackson and Lady Gaga but very brief.
Of course I am from the wrong generation.
Went to Shock 39 Disco on Sat night as beneath Ambassador closed for elections in Wattana district.
Hey I was there too. I missed you. LOL.
It was the perfect night to hit that place. I like the setup in the place. At least you can see in the place. Climax is so friggin dark. Yeah I am way passed disco age too.
All the groups of spasso, q bar, supper free lancers were there. They had no other place to go. I did finally see some solid talent. Lot guys there so it was tough to get to talk to the hot ones. One solid 9 said she just got there and wasnt ready to leave. The hot ones just string guys along or wait for the perfect guy. Who knows.
I wonder how that place would be when everything else is closed? Are there free lancers in there all the time? You don't read about the place here on ISG so maybe its just a regular bar.
I got a hot one with a nice fake rack. Don't see them too often. She was a drama queen but made the night interesting. I won't go into the details. Its a game they play. You know they arent really leaving when they threaten to. It all about the money.
What is the legal age in Thailand?
If it is 21, than any number greater than 543+21= 564 is good. Right? No! The number 564 is meaningless. Do not attempt the subtraction of 543 from the Thai calendar date, and then try to figure out how old she is. Alcohol and mathematics seldom mix well.
The number to remember is 2535. Write it down! If your lady has a birthday SMALLER THAN 2535 she is "of age". For example, birth year = 2532 = birthyear 1990 in the western calendar = 20 years old)
Hotman 666
12-13-10, 11:05
Very nice nostalgic post. It seems that commercialism has hit Patpong. I've seen another reference to the one and only one non-rip-off upstairs Bar. Can you or someone else please share with us the name of this Bar?
Thanks in advance.
LifeHi Life,
I'm terrible at remembering names (for both bars and girls) but if you are in Patpong 1 and find Tip Top restaurant than the only non rip off 'upstairs, naughty bar' that I now know of is the one immediately to the left and upstairs.
Drinks as price list (Beer around 100 Baht and lady drinks around 110 Baht.) and NO cover charge.
I think that the name may be Queen's Castle I.
Most of the other 'upstairs naughty bars' in Patpong area are either a complete rip off with final bills of over 1000 Baht not unknown or semi rip off with charges of 300 Baht for a beer!
NOTE FOR NEWBEE's. If prices of drinks are not shown outside then DON'T GO IN!
It's not like the old days!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Hi Life,
I'm terrible at remembering names (for both bars and girls) but if you are in Patpong 1 and find Tip Top restaurant than the only non rip off 'upstairs, naughty bar' that I now know of is the one immediately to the left and upstairs.
Drinks as price list (Beer around 100 Baht and lady drinks around 110 Baht.) and NO cover charge.
I think that the name may be Queen's Castle I.
Most of the other 'upstairs naughty bars' in Patpong area are either a complete rip off with final bills of over 1000 Baht not unknown or semi rip off with charges of 300 Baht for a beer!
NOTE FOR NEWBEE's. If prices of drinks are not shown outside then DON'T GO IN!
It's not like the old days!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Thanks Hotman, I have the same problem with names; description is good so next time that I'll be in Patpong I'll try to visit the place and I'll report back.
Life
Franco Cozzo
12-13-10, 19:01
Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?
The ladies (who were older and not as hot as I would usually pick) seemed not to be 'into it' at all (not surprising, but at least most working ladies over here pretend fairly well). They did not seem keen in doing the lady-lady play (which is a bit craap, as that is ostensibly why the first pick chooses the second). They just didn't seem to have ANY of the good qualities that I've come to enjoy a lot from Thai WLs. I now wish I had picked up a THB2000 LT young cutie that are so easy to get from Soi Nana and Cowboy, and saved myself 1600, plus have someone else to play with for the rest of the night and tomorrow morning (and possibly into the arvo depending on the girl).
The people who have had a good time there, was it just the experience of two girls plus anal that did it? Even with these bonuses, it was disappointing (I've had both experiences before, though a lot more fun). However, I still think the idea of the venue is fantastic on paper (no holes barred fun (didn't mean that pun at first) , with a list of fantasies catered for, and set price).
I'll update with a blow-by-blow of the (mediocre) experience when I have time.
No! The number 564 is meaningless. Do not attempt the subtraction of 543 from the Thai calendar date, and then try to figure out how old she is. Alcohol and mathematics seldom mix well.
The number to remember is 2535. Write it down! If your lady has a birthday SMALLER THAN 2535 she is "of age". For example, birth year = 2532 = birthyear 1990 in the western calendar = 20 years old) Just remember to change the number after Songkran! LOL
What is the legal age in Thailand?
If it is 21, than any number greater than 543+21= 564 is good. Right?
LEGAL is 18 (you CAN use 21 if you wish but the official number is 18)
Sheesh guy. It's 2553 Thai calendar until 1/1/2011 (then it's 2554). Subtract 19 (just to be SAFE) = 2534 on the year of birth.
Sorry to tell someone who thinks the Thai year changes at songkran. IT DOESN'T. It changes at NEW YEARS the same as the "western" calendars. The BUDDHIST year is "western year + 543" - 2553. Too bad you don't speak Thai - "AH-YOU TAO RAI" works for me (age how many) Any response less than "SIP-BAT" is jailbait. <smirk>
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? BTW, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand of condoms gents?
I used to break through a lot with asian women. Smaller women often means more friction, and more friction means a higher chance of pushing through the rubber.
Two important things. Presuming you're using farang condoms, then the problem could be something as simple as too much friction. With condoms you really need to keep a lubricant handy, maybe something flavoured if you want, but she'll appreciate it and you'll have far less friction. Slippery is fun!
Secondly, I really *really* like Sagami. 02 condoms. They're a bit tougher as they're polyurethane and they're 1/3rd the thickness of a latex condom. Plus they really stay on!
http://www.002.com.au/
I lose a lot of feeling with the latex condom but with the Sagami it's really close to not wearing anything, but a hell of a lot safer. Don't think they're available in LOS, so I tend to come with 3-4 boxes for each vacation.
Secondly, I really *really* like Sagami. 02 condoms. They're a bit tougher as they're polyurethane and they're 1/3rd the thickness of a latex condom. Plus they really stay on!
http://www.002.com.au/
I lose a lot of feeling with the latex condom but with the Sagami it's really close to not wearing anything, but a hell of a lot safer. Don't think they're available in LOS, so I tend to come with 3-4 boxes for each vacation. Someone else mentioned these on another thread so I was going to give it a try. But I haven't seen them in UK and I thought / was hoping I can find them in LOS, anyone knows for sure.
Somewhere15
12-14-10, 04:18
Yesterday's afternoon pickup from Guillivers.
We played some rounds of pool and after that I invited her to my hotel room what she accepted.
On forehand we discussed the fee: 1. 500 THB short time or 2. 500 THB long time.
During the pool rounds she lost many times. In the hotel room she won.
Shy, for that reason I only can publish these two pictures.
Member #4698
12-14-10, 06:07
Concerning Sagami. 02 condoms: I read the recommendations here in the forum and I want to try them out, but they are real expensive (at least in the USA). Amazon.Com partner price was $26 for 14 condoms, while at the same time Costco sells a box of 30 Trojan Ecstasy latex condoms for $14. That makes it $1.86 per Sagami vs. $0.53 per Trojan. I don't know, unless I can pick them up in HKG, Manila or BKK, I think I will stay with the Trojans.
Everything in life is a trade off. If you want real feeling and are willing to accept the risks then go bareback. If you can't tolerate any risk whatsoever then it is either monogamy or celibacy.
LittleBigMan
12-14-10, 06:13
Concerning Sagami. 02 condoms: I read the recommendations here in the forum and I want to try them out, but they are real expensive (at least in the USA). Amazon. Com partner price was $26 for 14 condoms, while at the same time Costco sells a box of 30 Trojan Ecstasy latex condoms for $14. That makes it $1. 86 per Sagami vs. $0. 53 per Trojan. I don't know, unless I can pick them up in HKG, Manila or BKK, I think I will stay with the Trojans.
Everything in life is a trade off. If you want real feeling and are willing to accept the risks then go bareback. If you can't tolerate any risk whatsoever then it is either monogamy or celibacy.
Nattay Bumpo,
If you expect to find them in HKG, Manila, BKK, although you might get lucky, you are wasting your time but if you have a bunch knock yourself out. Oherwise you be better like you said to buy Costco. On another note you will be lucky to find Trojan in BKK. Regardless if I'm wrong I doubt you will find prices for these items be cheaper than what you pay in the U.S.
IMHO, there is no Globol economy in Thailand unless you are buying a fake copy. So ask yourself if you want a fake condom? I like to walk around and compare prices at times and I see products like Nike, being sold 2 times the prices I see at home. Just the other day I saw a pair of Nikes being sold at 5,000 baht, this same shoe I saw in February on sale in Sportmart for $69.95. A bottle of Tire shine sells at Kragens for $4.99 was being sold at Big C, for 1199 Baht, last month there was a Lexus 270, on the show floor at Central Festival in Pattaya listed at just under 4,000,000 baht.
In the end, when it comes to time and money get it at home and save your time mongering.
LBM
Okay, so 2 girls have made my "to do" list as of late. In Baccara, #53. She's the stunner who dances topless upstairs. Big eyes, big fake tits. Probably been there for at least a year if not longer. In Dollhouse, it's #8 who's got my eye (or one-eye). She dances downstairs. Big natural titties and braces. Her name is Tookta.
Can anyone comment on the service of these lovely lasses?
On another note, went into Sheba's the other night and it appears the skank shift was on all night. Not a looker among them! After living here for 4 years now, Shark, Baccara, Dollhouse, and Tilac are the only bars on Cowboy that I frequent. Can't say I'm a fan of any of the others.
Asian Flava
12-14-10, 11:52
Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?Yeah, the last time I was in Bangkok I went to Eden one afternoon but was seriously disappointed with the talent available. I had a few good experiences going back a few years. But the girls I had seen then are long gone. Think one of the them was Wah. Great girl. The new owner didn't seem to be too patient with my questions about the girls available. He called a lineup and when I didn't see much I liked he told me it was late and the best ones were already taken and to try again another time. So I went back the next day earlier when they open up for business but it was the same unimpressive lineup. So had a drink and left. I'm sure I'll be back to try in the future and see if they have some turnover. I know it is a place to go for the 3some experience and not the lookers so you have to keep that in mind. But look forward to your FR nonetheless. If anyone has any good ladies to recommend there let me know.
AF
Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?
The ladies (who were older and not as hot as I would usually pick) seemed not to be 'into it' at all (not surprising, but at least most working ladies over here pretend fairly well). They did not seem keen in doing the lady-lady play (which is a bit craap, as that is ostensibly why the first pick chooses the second). They just didn't seem to have ANY of the good qualities that I've come to enjoy a lot from Thai WLs. I now wish I had picked up a THB2000 LT young cutie that are so easy to get from Soi Nana and Cowboy, and saved myself 1600, plus have someone else to play with for the rest of the night and tomorrow morning (and possibly into the arvo depending on the girl).
The people who have had a good time there, was it just the experience of two girls plus anal that did it? Even with these bonuses, it was disappointing (I've had both experiences before, though a lot more fun). However, I still think the idea of the venue is fantastic on paper (no holes barred fun (didn't mean that pun at first) , with a list of fantasies catered for, and set price).
I'll update with a blow-by-blow of the (mediocre) experience when I have time. I had the same (bad) experience than you, twice in 3 visits. There will not be a fourth.
El Frances
12-14-10, 18:33
I've been to Climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. Also been to Nana Liquid, Bangkok Beat, and Thermae and had no luck. It's just not that great of a scene in Bangkok for some reason. With all the girls in Bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
When you're in Bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places. I don't understand. Do you mean you could not approach the girls or they werent your taste? These places are packed with FLs. As soon as I get there they look at me, I just need to stay near them and they often do the approach (I. E. Cheers!). I mean it's not especially me, it's obviously any available farang there (Bangkok Beat, Climax, Nana). Finding a girl up to your taste if you like young girls is another story.
In Q Bar it can be different. It is more a place for partying and can have a high share of regular girls.
In Thermae, ALL girls are FLs. However, the pretty girls are exclusively targeting Japanese ATMs and will never even look at a white guy. Some girls also go with farangs but they are not so pretty.
Not all the places are in the same category
not a complete dissent, but there is more to patpong than you report. i spent considerable time at superstar over the summer and found it acceptable. the music is classic rock circa 70's and 80's (so you can flashback to what it was like when you were in college as you pick-up on college-age cuties!) the pressure to barfine is a lot less than what you find in nana, though you will get worked a little -- patpong is always the "third bride's maid" for bangkok mongers these days.
as i live close to patpong, it is an easy for me to go there and not invest a lot of time or money if it appears dead. i also know a few of the women who work there (!) , so i am somewhat privy to the "grapevine." lately, at times, granted, it has been slow, but with the onset of high season there is new, young talent for the experienced monger. touristy, sleazy, young old, dirty, flash; patpong has it all these days.
last night i took a walk with my camera at about midnight and saw a few cuties out and about. it's not an easy,"target rich" area like sc or nana, but there is definitely "something for anyone" there. of course, there are also obnoxious touts. 190cm ladyboys, bandito taxi drivers, nepalese peanut salesmen, crazy farang. but this this is bangkok, right, not disney world?
earlier is better, late-night can have limited options (which is true for all of patpong. go before 10pm). as for the rest of patpong, i found the bars packed with girls early in the night, something for everyone. later it thins out, so someone is getting laid.i agree, with the exception of late night at the twilo club. there are a lot of pretty women who go there to dance and look for their last prince charming for the evening. if nothing else, it's a good place to sweat off some alcohol before heading back home.
you can also pick up a bag of groceries at foodland as it is open 24/7, 366 days a year!
Fun And Sun
12-14-10, 22:27
Fon Tok, those are some really good pics of the night time scene of BKK that bring back fond memories. Always take a lot of pics of girls as a little keep sake from my trips, but haven't given it a try to take pics of the venues since I thought that was a way to end up being the victim of a mob assault by the bouncers. Maybe I am mistaken?
Member #4698
12-15-10, 00:14
patpong is always the "third bride's maid" for bangkok mongers these days.
as i live close to patpong, it is an easy for me to go there and not invest a lot of time or money if it appears dead. i also know a few of the women who work there (!) , so i am somewhat privy to the "grapevine." lately, at times, granted, it has been slow, but with the onset of high season there is new, young talent for the experienced monger. touristy, sleazy, young old, dirty, flash; patpong has it all these days. my first trip to los was in '87. back then patpong was the place to go. i had a many good times there and fondly recall a bar called queens castle 1 where the girls were very attractive, the bar played the rolling stones, and i was always treated well by the ladies i barfined. and oh yeah; 43bt to the dollar thereabouts. the last time i stopped by was back in '94 and the place was still pretty hot. but after '94, i moved over to sukhumvit and never stopped back. i hear the bar has fallen on hard times nowadays and the quality of girls has sunk pretty low. i would appreciate any updates on this, ft.
Fon Tok, those are some really good pics of the night time scene of BKK that bring back fond memories. Always take a lot of pics of girls as a little keep sake from my trips, but haven't given it a try to take pics of the venues since I thought that was a way to end up being the victim of a mob assault by the bouncers. Maybe I am mistaken?Cannot.
Some of the bouncers are even a little touchy about photos on the outside!
NicFrenchy
12-15-10, 06:57
Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?
The ladies (who were older and not as hot as I would usually pick) seemed not to be 'into it' at all (not surprising, but at least most working ladies over here pretend fairly well). They did not seem keen in doing the lady-lady play (which is a bit craap, as that is ostensibly why the first pick chooses the second). They just didn't seem to have ANY of the good qualities that I've come to enjoy a lot from Thai WLs. Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.
Red Square
12-15-10, 08:04
i've been to climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. also been to nana liquid, bangkok beat, and thermae and had no luck. it's just not that great of a scene in bangkok for some reason. with all the girls in bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
when you're in bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places. i totally have to disagree. i love bangkok beat. that's my #1 place. i am at the point that i feel almost regret when i don't pop down there for a peek, before playing elsewhere.
LEGAL is 18 (you CAN use 21 if you wish but the official number is 18)...Actually, there is no LEGAL age in Thailand for our hobby, as prostitution is ILLEGAL in the Land of (vertical) Smiles. The legal age of consent is 15 here, but that's when no (financial) gratification is given in exchange of sexual services, but if a Thai girl is under 20, she needs to obtain first her parents' written consent in order to marry someone legally.
If you are a foreigner, you could theoretically get into troubles if you are caught with any prostitute, regardless of her age, but practically, the law is not strictly enforced and you should be safe if your provider is over 18 year old, but it's certainly not the same story if she's younger.
The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act clearly states what are the various penalties under the Thai Law when minors under 18, between 15 and 18, and under 15 are involved (of course, younger is the minor, harsher is the penalty).
http://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/WEBTEXT/46403/65063/E96THA01.htm
Kumar Arun
12-15-10, 13:05
Nattay Bumpo,
If you expect to find them in HKG, Manila, BKK, although you might get lucky, you are wasting your time but if you have a bunch knock yourself out. Oherwise you be better like you said to buy Costco. On another note you will be lucky to find Trojan in BKK. Regardless if I'm wrong I doubt you will find prices for these items be cheaper than what you pay in the U. S.
LBMI'm visiting LOS in very near future. Where can I buy these Sagami original condoms in BKK?
Cheers.
AK
Somewhere15
12-15-10, 14:54
originally posted by evianist
i've been to climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. also been to nana liquid, bangkok beat, and thermae and had no luck. it's just not that great of a scene in bangkok for some reason. with all the girls in bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
when you're in bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places.
i totally have to disagree. i love bangkok beat. that's my #1 place. i am at the point that i feel almost regret when i don't pop down there for a peek, before playing elsewhere.me too. very good music, funny girls (both visitors and staff) and a relaxed atmosphere. much different than climax, bossy and shock and. free entrance on the lower suk part.
NicFrenchy
12-15-10, 15:14
the Land of (vertical) Smiles. Priceless. Made me spill my drink
AlLostInSpace13
12-19-10, 08:25
It was my last night in Bangkok, so I made a mental note not to get drunk. Missing the early morning flight wouldn't be funny. I ran into a lady friend from previous trips and I bought her dinne. Then I bought shooters for her and the bartender. Then it went South. I remember when I was talking to this new lady friend, I turned around and saw that the bartender was holding a beer and made a thumbs-up sign. Sure, why not. (She didn't say a word.)
When closing time approached, I was only casually checking the kind of drinks that I throught I purchased and I spotted 4 drinks that I didn't order. An arguement ensued and it was explained to me that some of those drinks were ordered by my lady friend that had already left and the rest were by the bartender and all were okayed by me. It was only 400 baht, so I just paid it. Besides I didn't think I had any recourse anyway.
From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually. Let's see how they can cheat next time around.
F that!
Spaceman
NicFrenchy
12-19-10, 08:42
From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually.I always do that
AlLostInSpace13
12-19-10, 08:43
i decided to give the bj bar a try. i was too lazy to venture to patpoon, so i visited [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) instead. before enterring the place, i reconed that bj bar employees may not be the best looking be / see they work with their head down. but i was pleasantly surprised when a cutie took me in. mind you, i waited this long to visit a bj bar be / see it's not my favorite exercise. i don't come easy at bj. and this time was no exception. the poor thing must have repeated her repertoire so many time and after more than 30 minutes i still haven't come. even accompanied by the interesting porno vocals coming from the adjacent booth. i didn't know they do fs as well, so i suggested to my lady that we call it quits. at first she suggested to get an additional lady, but i frowned on that, so then she suggested that intercourse would be 1, 100 baht. she said bj 700, boom boom 1, 100. and i thought only another 1, 100 baht to get a release, so i went for it. she then rode me cowgirl until i came.
at the cashier, i was pleasantly surprised that bj + boom boom was 1, 100 baht. bonus! but that's it. no more bj bar for me. little spaceman is still nursing the trauma sustained from the 30+ minutes of continuous rigorous oral sex. at least i can say, i tried it.
spaceman
I always do thatIsn't it easier and more convenient for all concerned to keep checking your tab total or the number of drink slips in your bin, (that's what I do) rather than paying for each individual drink?
Went out for a few bevvies last night. First stopped over at Nana.
Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.
Spanky's. A few hotties but the shows again are pretty shit. They had a lesbian show that was okay but Suzie Wong's is much better. A girl came up to me. She was a 6 at best but was definitely up for it. 2,000 baht short time and she would not come down so we fucked off out of there.
Walked over to Cowboy. Baccara was way too crowded because of its anniversary party. Went into Shark. Lots of girls but no #14 (who I was looking for). Another came and sat down. She was a 6 or 7. Bought her a drink but she would still not go for the offered 1500 ST.
Went into Tilac. Seems that the showgirls are wearing slutty outfits, and what's this. Tights? Complete turn-off for yours truly. One of the attractions of this bar is the no underwear policy but it seems that most girls were wearing thongs underneath or the aforementioned tights. A few seemed high on yaba as well.
Walked into Dollhouse to close out the night. The hottie #8 was nowhere to be found so I went upstairs. Sat under a lovely piece of ass. Bought her a drink and made out and groped for a bit. It's quite dark upstairs but she's probably a 7. Again, she wanted 2, 000 baht and would not come down.
I've lived here for 4 years and have never paid more than 1, 500 for ST, even in high season, and unless she's a fucking supermodel, I'm not going to start. It seems that Thailand is not longer the cheap mongering destination it used to be. Or I may just have to stay away from the go-go scene until March.
Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.
They do run these shows all night long so this may be based on the one or ones you saw. They're not Broadway quality but overall they do put on some quality shows IMO, the place is always packed in BKK or in Pats. The "fuck you" song is one of my favs.
They do run these shows all night long so this may be based on the one or ones you saw. They're not Broadway quality but overall they do put on some quality shows IMO, the place is always packed in BKK or in Pats. The "fuck you" song is one of my favs.Yes gone down hill, shows not the same as a few years ago
Went out for a few bevvies last night. First stopped over at Nana.
Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.
Spanky's. A few hotties but the shows again are pretty shit. They had a lesbian show that was okay but Suzie Wong's is much better. A girl came up to me. She was a 6 at best but was definitely up for it. 2,000 baht short time and she would not come down so we fucked off out of there.
Walked over to Cowboy. Baccara was way too crowded because of its anniversary party. Went into Shark. Lots of girls but no #14 (who I was looking for). Another came and sat down. She was a 6 or 7. Bought her a drink but she would still not go for the offered 1500 ST.
Went into Tilac. Seems that the showgirls are wearing slutty outfits, and what's this. Tights? Complete turn-off for yours truly. One of the attractions of this bar is the no underwear policy but it seems that most girls were wearing thongs underneath or the aforementioned tights. A few seemed high on yaba as well.
Walked into Dollhouse to close out the night. The hottie #8 was nowhere to be found so I went upstairs. Sat under a lovely piece of ass. Bought her a drink and made out and groped for a bit. It's quite dark upstairs but she's probably a 7. Again, she wanted 2, 000 baht and would not come down.
I've lived here for 4 years and have never paid more than 1, 500 for ST, even in high season, and unless she's a fucking supermodel, I'm not going to start. It seems that Thailand is not longer the cheap mongering destination it used to be. Or I may just have to stay away from the go-go scene until March. Dead right no way 2k shorttime, true Suzie Wongs good show.
Jimmy Red Cab
12-19-10, 14:52
In Thermae, ALL girls are FLs. However, the pretty girls are exclusively targeting Japanese ATMs and will never even look at a white guy. Some girls also go with farangs but they are not so pretty.
I am a white English guy and my experiences with the Thermae is that I am totally ignored by all the girls, they are only interested in Asian guys.
I did not have any problems with The Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, the girls there were happy to go with Western guys.
From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually. Let's see how they can cheat next time around.
F that!
SpacemanCouldn't it turn into more expensive if youend up in giving a tip after every single order / bill? It is somehow customary to leave the change or so withth ebill (not a rule, but I think most do it that way and waitresses also expect that).
If you leave a 100 or 200B on the tap is something, if you leave 40/50 or so for every bill you end up with more.
Just my 2 cents.
Jimmy Red Cab
12-19-10, 18:15
Dead right no way 2k shorttime.I admire your principles, however the fact that some of these girls will not budge with their prices suggests to me that they are finding customers willing to pay the asking price, maybe Japanese, but someone is clearly paying.
I admire your principles, however the fact that some of these girls will not budge with their prices suggests to me that they are finding customers willing to pay the asking price, maybe Japanese, but someone is clearly paying.Maybe going home empty handed 1 night, and scoring a "3, 3, 3" (3 inches. 3 minutes. 3,000 bt) every other night, is better than a sweaty farang at 1,000 Bt a pop every night?
Good for you to resist these rates. (not all girls get that 3, 3.3 thingy. So they should eventually give in)
I was there in May and 1500 ST was an easy catch from ALL gogo bars (remember to add 600/700 barfine and 1-2 lady drinks to these rates). It's worrying trend, is it due to the high season though. ! I've never been in Dec / Jan, now I almost regret booking.
I hope the FL are not raising their prices. That would only leaves MP and Soapies options in Bangkok (I'm assuming they keep their prices fixed).
Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.Thta's true, but not so easy to implement. Last time I went, the barman was another French guy that I did not know. He was also a bit unfriendly and rushed me to choose a oirl. When I came down, I just did not feel like explaining in frontt of everyone why I did not like it etc. I prefer to cut my losses, and not go back.
I had no problem with the look of the girls, but with the attitude and service.
Obviously those of us with a bad opinion of Eden are in the minority, so perhaps it is us who are not ready for this kind of experience.
Jimmy Red Cab
12-20-10, 11:42
Good for you to resist these rates. (not all girls get that 3, 3.3 thingy. So they should eventually give in)
I was there in May and 1500 ST was an easy catch from ALL gogo bars (remember to add 600/700 barfine and 1-2 lady drinks to these rates). Interesting that you say ALL gogo bars.
In Rainbow 4 the better looking girls will hold out for 2000 baht, after midnight the rougher girls will no doubt be happy with 1500 baht.
Some girls get barfined every night, others rarely get barfined.
Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.Me too had a very bad expereince at EDEN, repeated next day again but the same bad attitude, infact I complained to the Guy there at the Bar that your girls put me to sleep, he pointed that to another lady at the cash counter, but she too ignored and pretended busy, had to pay 8000 Bhat for me and my freind and just walked out. I feel Edens day are over, I had an excellent time at Devils Den, I almost visited 4 time and expereince on each day was great.
Drkb744
I am a white English guy and my experiences with the Thermae is that I am totally ignored by all the girls, they are only interested in Asian guys.
I did not have any problems with The Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, the girls there were happy to go with Western guys. Thats incorrect.
I have been with a number of Thermae FL's, however they are only interested in Western guys who speak Thai well and who are living in Thailand. Yes, their target clientelle is Japanese tourists however they will go with certain Western guys.
The difference between Thermae and BG is that Thermae generally the girls are not interested in your average Western tourist, whereas in the BG Soi 7 they are.
Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop.
Thats incorrect.
Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop.
I think it would be more correct to say that the young good looking girls at Thermae will not go with Farangs unless rent is due and the Japanese are nowhere to be seen. Even then it is iffy. The less attractive girls there, and there are lots of those and they tend to sit as opposed to stand because they are getting older by the minute, will go with anyone and in truth the Japanese will have nothing to do with them.
But I have seen many many instances in which attractive girls there have been astonishingly rude to Farangs who approach them. Waving them away dismissively before a word is exchanged, turning their backs on them or telling them they will only go with Japanese. And only Japanese. Chinese-Americans have told me they get treated badly as well as soon as the girl realizes they are not Japanese. One girl that I already knew came with me one time and jabbered with her friends on the way out the door. I asked what that was about. She said they asked her why she was going with a Farang . She told them I was a good guy.
Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.
NicFrenchy
12-22-10, 07:34
Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.You hit the nail on the head. It's not because they are Jappos that the girls like them, but because they don't get scared about paying 3 or 4 or even 5k if they want the girl. Also, they don't have a lot of power and huge cocks so the girls are not too tired or in pain after the session (s).
The Good thing about Japanese Guys is that they really know why they go to Thermae. They have an itch that need scratching, they hire a hooker, do the deed and bye bye.
Farangs are looking for relationships, girlfriends. And some girls don't have time for this bullshit.
Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.I tend to agree. And the japanese have a reputation to be generous.
So we are on opposite ends.
Obvipously there could be softer ways to neglect themselves to a western guy.
But having (willing) to do so 20 times a day, after some time the might build a rudeness they are not even be aware of.
In addition, with no offence, if they would be polite (I know, politeness is not that much expensive) and all ok they might aim to a different job.
I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.
So the only think makes it worthwhile is money. They figure they can do one jap trick (no matter how bad) and make money 3 or 4 times a normal trick.
(Disclaimer: All my opinion of course and it's not a generalization for all)
I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.Of course there are those. But there are also those that just want to play checkers with the girls. And of course I've also heard about a father / son team. Generally, they are no different than us. They come in all shapes and sizes.
No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
1. Japs have smaller cocks. Which means less "damage and stretch" to the girls pussy. No girl wants to get married with a pussy the size of a cave.
2. Japs do not see the length of time of the sex as being important, its the amount of times they can cum that is "manly". Therefore the girl might get fucked twice, but first time 1 minute and second time 3 minutes. That to them is great, the last thing they want is some Viagra totting farang ramming his dick into her for 30 or 60 mintues.
3. Anal with Japs is much easier. See item 1. No girl wants a asshole the size of a cave, and also they can get extra money for anal services. So makes sense to use Japs and get more money for anal.
4. Thai boyfriends are very much wham, bam, thank you mam. Which is similar to the Japs quick style. Again it is a turn off to get a farang who wants different positions and slow and fast and change position and all that stuff, these girls are used to the quick type, boom boom and thats it.
5. Japs are honerable. The girls know they will not get ripped off and they will get paid without any problem. Too many asshole farangs have in the past taken girls and fucked them and dumped them without paying or paying much less than agreed. So safety comes into it.
Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.
Tokyohomeboy
12-24-10, 12:49
2 days in bangkok so far, and 2 trips to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on soi 8. this might not be the best place on earth but it has to be up there. i just haven't had my dick sucked as well and on such a consistent basis. i started going on my last trip because i stayed just around the corner from them and now can't imagine not going.
i just took the next girl up in rotation rather than choose because none of them are lookers and i'm not going to be looking at their faces am i. all the girls are smiling and joking and it's a flat 700 baht fee with nothing to upsell. you also leave without reeking of who** perfume or cigarette smoke. there were two french guys talking to each other during the service (and one of them talking to his girlfriend on the phone! dude, i would buy you a beer for that one) but no way to not cum from my girl's 20 minute worship of my dick.
just say yes next time you are in bangkok.
Tokyohomeboy
12-24-10, 12:57
Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.The absolute minimum you'll pay for FS in Tokyo is just over 7000 baht, with 11, 000 being almost standardized at most places and 20, 000 and up at soaplands.
Shaun Palmer
12-25-10, 00:24
Hi fellows,
I am planning a short trip to Bangkok for my first time there. I am used to shanghai saunas and MPs but this time would love to check this activity in Bangkok. But, I want to have LT with 3 girls, spending the all night with them. Do you guys know a place to go? An hotel? Somewhere?
NicFrenchy
12-25-10, 03:48
Hi fellows,
I am planning a short trip to Bangkok for my first time there. I am used to shanghai saunas and MPs but this time would love to check this activity in Bangkok. But, I want to have LT with 3 girls, spending the all night with them. Do you guys know a place to go? An hotel? Somewhere? Get a nice Suite at the Davis Hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 24, Call Mango Massage and ask for 3 girls (Bo, Ice, Bam or Kate) to join you in your Room.
They will take about 5mn to get there and give you a sexathon you will not forget. You might even extend your stay.
Mango girls are good as they accept anything (no holes barred).
Have fun. Here's the website: http://mangomassagesoi24.com/
LittleBigMan
12-25-10, 03:55
No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
1. Japs have smaller cocks. Which means less "damage and stretch" to the girls pussy. No girl wants to get married with a pussy the size of a cave.
2. Japs do not see the length of time of the sex as being important, its the amount of times they can cum that is "manly". Therefore the girl might get fucked twice, but first time 1 minute and second time 3 minutes. That to them is great, the last thing they want is some Viagra totting farang ramming his dick into her for 30 or 60 mintues.
3. Anal with Japs is much easier. See item 1. No girl wants a asshole the size of a cave, and also they can get extra money for anal services. So makes sense to use Japs and get more money for anal.
4. Thai boyfriends are very much wham, bam, thank you mam. Which is similar to the Japs quick style. Again it is a turn off to get a farang who wants different positions and slow and fast and change position and all that stuff, these girls are used to the quick type, boom boom and thats it.
5. Japs are honerable. The girls know they will not get ripped off and they will get paid without any problem. Too many asshole farangs have in the past taken girls and fucked them and dumped them without paying or paying much less than agreed. So safety comes into it. I'm actually in a pretty good mood since it is Christmas Day!
I wonder sometimes and I know this is a sex site! Where the hell does white folks come up with some of the [Deleted by Admin] noted above? [Deleted by Admin] This Christmas in Thailand I hope Santa delivers you a [Deleted by Admin]?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all?
LBM
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Actually LBM, if you had the ability to read well, the answer is in the 1st 2 lines which I will repost below :
- No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
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No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
1. Japs have smaller cocks. Which means less "damage and stretch" to the girls pussy. No girl wants to get married with a pussy the size of a cave.
2. Japs do not see the length of time of the sex as being important, its the amount of times they can cum that is "manly". Therefore the girl might get fucked twice, but first time 1 minute and second time 3 minutes. That to them is great, the last thing they want is some Viagra totting farang ramming his dick into her for 30 or 60 mintues.
3. Anal with Japs is much easier. See item 1. No girl wants a asshole the size of a cave, and also they can get extra money for anal services. So makes sense to use Japs and get more money for anal.
4. Thai boyfriends are very much wham, bam, thank you mam. Which is similar to the Japs quick style. Again it is a turn off to get a farang who wants different positions and slow and fast and change position and all that stuff, these girls are used to the quick type, boom boom and thats it.
5. Japs are honerable. The girls know they will not get ripped off and they will get paid without any problem. Too many asshole farangs have in the past taken girls and fucked them and dumped them without paying or paying much less than agreed. So safety comes into it. I'm actually in a pretty good mood since it is Christmas Day!
I wonder sometimes and I know this is a sex site! Where the hell does white folks come up with some of the [Deleted by Admin] noted above? [Deleted by Admin] This Christmas in Thailand I hope Santa delivers you a [Deleted by Admin]?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all?
LBM
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2 days in bangkok so far, and 2 trips to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on soi 8. this might not be the best place on earth but it has to be up there. i just haven't had my dick sucked as well and on such a consistent basis. i started going on my last trip because i stayed just around the corner from them and now can't imagine not going.
i just took the next girl up in rotation rather than choose because none of them are lookers and i'm not going to be looking at their faces am i. all the girls are smiling and joking and it's a flat 700 baht fee with nothing to upsell. you also leave without reeking of who* perfume or cigarette smoke. there were two french guys talking to each other during the service (and one of them talking to his girlfriend on the phone! dude, i would buy you a beer for that one) but no way to not cum from my girl's 20 minute worship of my dick.
just say yes next time you are in bangkok. the best is they open at 8:30 or 9 in the morning and are very happy to see you right then.
last time in bkk i went with my morning coffee in hand-
best way to start a relaxed day!
yes, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is the right place to get a good bbbjcim. the best. they are not very attractive but these girls can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch! i stayed at stable lodge across the street and made several visits. one girl gave me a free 30 minute shoulder massage at the bar after i emptied another load down her throat. now that's what i call service!
the best is they open at 8:30 or 9 in the morning and are very happy to see you right then.
last time in bkk i went with my morning coffee in hand-
best way to start a relaxed day!
Jimmy Red Cab
12-25-10, 15:28
Thats incorrect.
I have been with a number of Thermae FL's, however they are only interested in Western guys who speak Thai well and who are living in Thailand. Yes, their target clientelle is Japanese tourists however they will go with certain Western guys.
The difference between Thermae and BG is that Thermae generally the girls are not interested in your average Western tourist, whereas in the BG Soi 7 they are.
Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop. They are prostitutes. Full stop.
I have been with prostitutes all over the world and never experienced the totally cold attitude that I receive at The Thermae. In fact I rarely go there now.
LittleBigMan
12-25-10, 15:37
Actually LBM, if you had the ability to read well, the answer is in the 1st 2 lines which I will repost below :
- No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
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I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.
So the only think makes it worthwhile is money. They figure they can do one jap trick (no matter how bad) and make money 3 or 4 times a normal trick.)
(Disclaimer: All my opinion of course and it's not a generalization for all)It would be nice to have a japanese monger opinion on this, any japanese mongers on board.
Chill, men. It is the Season of joy. Everyone has their own opinions and versions. Just let it be.
Have a Happy New Year
Shaun Palmer
12-25-10, 21:19
Went to Spankys at Nana Plazza today and am very disapointed.
I am not that picky but hard to make a choice. I finally picked a 24yo (looks more like 17) , perfect body, nice tis, cute smile. We agreed to go to my room for a LT. She was nice but not hot, I went down on her, she jacked me offf. Didn't want to BJ, and I don't know why. And then we fucked, she was dry like a desert and it was hard to go inside.
I came very quickly as she was very exciting, but not a good session to me compared to what I am used in shanghai.
She wanted to sleep and I told her she could go home or to the bar. And ended up paying her a ST.
I am not going to spankys anymore for sure.
Fun And Sun
12-26-10, 00:54
yes, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is the right place to get a good bbbjcim. the best. they are not very attractive but these girls can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch! i stayed at stable lodge across the street and made several visits. one girl gave me a free 30 minute shoulder massage at the bar after i emptied another load down her throat. now that's what i call service!i totally agree. for bj bars [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) are always consistent with good service from women who aren't the most attractive, but who cares, all you see is the top of their heads anyway, lol.
would love to set up my own place like that, wonder if the owner is interested in franchising his brand. lol
Mealticket
12-26-10, 02:49
Women who aren't the most attractive, but who cares.Did you notice my hand going up?
It would be nice to have a japanese monger opinion on this, any japanese mongers on board.Given the s. Usually thrown at japanese people on this thread, including the most basic racist stereotypes, I would be surprised if any Japanese guy was masochistic enough to read this crap.
Went to Spankys at Nana Plazza today and am very disapointed.
I am not that picky but hard to make a choice. I finally picked a 24yo (looks more like 17) , perfect body, nice tis, cute smile. We agreed to go to my room for a LT. She was nice but not hot, I went down on her, she jacked me offf. Didn't want to BJ, and I don't know why. And then we fucked, she was dry like a desert and it was hard to go inside.
I came very quickly as she was very exciting, but not a good session to me compared to what I am used in shanghai.
She wanted to sleep and I told her she could go home or to the bar. And ended up paying her a ST.
I am not going to spankys anymore for sure. SP,
I don't know if you can make a sweeping assessment based on 1 girl. I stuck my head in Spankys the last few nights and saw a spectrum of types. If young (looking) and compliant is what your looking for I've had great success in Erotica and Mandarin. This one's in Erotica and is a winner, number 14 I think but youll notice her at once. A few other young types as well if she's not your brand of beer....
**(warning - shes fully clothed)**
Clyde Drexler
12-26-10, 08:37
I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in three weeks and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? Also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?
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NicFrenchy
12-26-10, 12:55
Chill, men. It is the Season of joy. Everyone has their own opinions and versions. Just let it be.
Have a Happy New YearOh come on. Why trying to Crash a perfectly good argument? I was ready to get the popcorn. .
NicFrenchy
12-26-10, 12:58
i totally agree. for bj bars [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) are always consistent with good service from women who aren't the most attractive, but who cares, all you see is the top of their heads anyway, lol.
would love to set up my own place like that, wonder if the owner is interested in franchising his brand. lol? are you serious? of course he is interested. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) pattaya and huahin are franchises.
NicFrenchy
12-26-10, 13:01
Given the s. Usually thrown at japanese people on this thread, including the most basic racist stereotypes, I would be surprised if any Japanese guy was masochistic enough to read this crap.I have 2 good Japanese Friends, and they are close enough to me to tell me that yes, they look down on every other guy that isn't Japanese. This is how they were raised and this is how they want to stay.
People often talk about Americans being loud and thinking they are the masters of the world. Well I guess the Japs are the same.
But who gives a fuck? We are all here for pussy. And there is more than enough of that in Thailand not to be worried what Jack, Somchai, Shiro or Kurt thinks.
I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in three weeks and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? Also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?Hey buddy,
PM me and I should be able to guide you well.
I have 2 good Japanese Friends, and they are close enough to me to tell me that yes, they look down on every other guy that isn't Japanese.I grew up in Japan and I can assure you that there are two sides to this coin. The cultural arrogance of Japanese males is real, but there's at least an equal amount of insecurity and fears of inferiority. In fact I'd say that's the main reason they try to look down on Westerners: they worry that we're looking down on them. (But they really still do feel superior to other Asians.)
But, as you say, who gives a fuck. Plenty to go around, and anyhow the girls who specialize in Japanese are usually of no interest to me.
i have seen some japanese porno featuring the biggest boobs i have ever seen on asian women. unfortuantely japanese govt makes filmakers censor the good parts.
as for japanese men, no offense to any reading this, i think you should reconnect with your humbler roots.
meanwhile i can't wait to back to bkk next year and go to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a few bjs, hook up with some new snatch at the biergarten and take my busty thai girlfriend to chiang mai for loy krathong in novemebr. has anyone seen loy krathong festival?
i grew up in japan and i can assure you that there are two sides to this coin. the cultural arrogance of japanese males is real, but there's at least an equal amount of insecurity and fears of inferiority. in fact i'd say that's the main reason they try to look down on westerners: they worry that we're looking down on them. (but they really still do feel superior to other asians.)
but, as you say, who gives a fuck. plenty to go around, and anyhow the girls who specialize in japanese are usually of no interest to me.
She wanted to sleep and I told her she could go home or to the bar. And ended up paying her a ST.
I am not going to spankys anymore for sure. In these cases I am always wondering whether the result you had is due to the girl only or the establishment has something to do with the attitude.
I mean, can it be that it attracts certain kind of wome and attitudes?
If that is the case it will not have much repeat customers, just as you decided not to go again anymore.
More: is the establishment doing some sort of check or does it give guidelines to the girls (ad make sure they deliver what they are supposed to deliver) , since they get a BF?
I know there are not 100% safe rules, even in more focused places (an MP, a soapie, etc) as it is also a matter of chemistry. But still one expects a minimum service when taking a girl out of a place.
Fun And Sun
12-26-10, 16:46
? are you serious? of course he is interested. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) pattaya and huahin are franchises.lol. i think that i will apply for an assistant manager role first to learn the ropes of the complex trade of running a bj bar.
the best is they open at 8:30 or 9 in the morning and are very happy to see you right then.
last time in bkk i went with my morning coffee in hand-
best way to start a relaxed day! i did not know that they open their fine establishment so early! if this is the case, they should update their website where it is stated that they are open from 11am till 1am the next day.
http://www.lolitasbangkok.com/services.html
NicFrenchy
12-27-10, 02:45
i did not know that they open their fine establishment so early! if this is the case, they should update their website where it is stated that they are open from 11am till 1am the next day.
http://www.lolitasbangkok.com/services.html
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, sol@patpong2 that opens early.
there is one girl that arrives at 8am to setup the bar, if you are there, she will rush and finish her setup by 8:30. then you can get her to suck you or fuck her on the couch.
Shaun Palmer
12-27-10, 05:10
I got pissed off by my two first experiences in Bangkok, so I decided to take two girls overnight in my room from "mango".
I called them but my skype hang up suddenly and I decided then to go there.
Once arrived, I felt very comfortable in the place, girls were smiling and having a positive attitude as well as the mamasan.
I asked for two girls overnight to my room. Damage would be 6000baths which is not bad at think!
Hard to make a choice and to pick girls. I really wanted cherry, who 's very cute but she gets her period. And seems to be sad when I said that I am not fond on girls on period. Finally, I chose Apple who was smiling and looked very nice to me and Cat. Cat wasn't here but the mama gave me the book and I found her very attractive!
None of the girls were really stunning but selection is more than ok there.
We agreed for 10pm to my room.
10pm, a knock on the door, girls arrived.
Apple seemed to be happy and in a good mood but Cat was like tired or something.
I asked what was going on there. And Apple explained me that Cat was sick and she actually looked sick. They told me that when I came to the shop, she was sleeping that's why she wasn't downstairs with the other girls.
Anyway, I told her not to stay here and that it would be better for her to get some rest. She was happy that I didn't get mad and she left. No problem, apple asked me if I wanted another the girl and she helped me to pick.
While we were waiting for Venus, We talked a lot, and it was actually nice. Then Venus arrived. She looks very different on the photos. She was promising on her photos but I was a bit disappointed when I saw her. Anyways.
Let's get the session started.
They took my and her clothes off and went to shower. How nice it was to be with this two nice bodies in the shower! They washed me with their boobs and went down on me.
They we headed to the bed. Where I felt like lost, everything was going two fast for me, they are very pro and knows what they are doing! Hard to take a breath. Apple was giving me a BBBJ while Venus was taking care of my nipples with her thongue. And then I don't know what happened and how but I was fucking Venus, touching her boobs and DATY on the shaved pussy of Apple. I was like in heaven. My eyes were shut and when I opened them again I was now eating Apple boobs and fucking Venus in another position! YEAH!
What the fuck! That is life. Jajaja. After a while apple wanted me to ride her, ok, I was now fucking Apple missionary while Venus was massaging my little hole. Hmmm. It was too much for me! Seriously! And I came!
WOW what a session! I didn't have to rest that the two angels were giving me thai massage and after maybe 30 minutes, they started to take care of my little brother again. Second round began. Kind of the same things happened (I don't remember exactly what but trust me guys, that was cool) until I came.
It was time to sleep now. I was in my king bed in the middle of them, we were cuddling and that was kind of nice, I must say. I fell asleep and after a while I woke up and Apple was stimulating my cock. Wow, this girl is never tired? Venus seemed less in the mood for sex this time. And third round, everybody 's ready. Let's go!
It was a bit hard to come this time and then after fucking Apple for a while, I jacked myself off until I came.
Then Venus told me she had to leave around six. No problem. But Apple said she could stay with me a bit more. After three pops, she could have left too, would not have been such big of a deal. But she stayed, well taking care of me!
6 o'clock, venus is leaving. I paid her 3000baths and when I went back to sleep, Apple started to suck me again, wow and then we had a 69 and she got wet for the first time this night. Before she was using lube. Cool!
We had very good sex until she proposed me her little hole. I politely refused and came on her breast! I was like exhausted after this night.
10 o clock, Apple is in the shower, I put discreetly 4000 baths in the pocket of her jeans 3000 + 1000 tip for the super good service!
She kissed me and left!
Now it's time to rest. And think about tonight what to do for my last night in Bangkok.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, sol@patpong2 that opens early.
there is one girl that arrives at 8am to setup the bar, if you are there, she will rush and finish her setup by 8:30. then you can get her to suck you or fuck her on the couch. you're a great contributor to this forum nic but why would you doubt my word as i made it clear that it was my first hand (mouth) experience. i arrived there about 9:20 and at least ten girls were outside. granted some were working on their make up, but girls always do that. so i asked them if they're open for business already to which they agreed very cheerfully that they arrived there already at 8:30.
check it out yourself and report back please!
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, sol@patpong2 that opens early.
there is one girl that arrives at 8am to setup the bar, if you are there, she will rush and finish her setup by 8:30. then you can get her to suck you or fuck her on the couch. have been at sol today at about 11. there were only two ladies present. went first with pla on the sofa. then after having finished and another beer i felt strong enough for a second round with pla and aen. both have nice breasts and give good service, although i would class pla higher for bj. for boumboum, i think the sol-ladies are not participatoy enough. not to be compared to tulip, mango et al. so, nect time i will limit it to waht the ladies can best. by the way, contrary to earlier post, i had never the impression that the question "condom, mai" was more than rhetorical.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, sol@patpong2 that opens early...that's what i thought, but islandboy54's recent post in this thread was a bit misleading imho and made me believe that [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was now opening earlier than what is stated on its website. anyway, thank you for your clarifications.
NicFrenchy
12-27-10, 16:12
that's what i thought, but islandboy54's recent post in this thread was a bit misleading imho and made me believe that [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was now opening earlier than what is stated on its website. anyway, thank you for your clarifications.wait, i could be wrong. i haven't been to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) that early but they used to open at 11am (some girls are there earlier but i would think not before 10:30)
wait, i could be wrong. i haven't been to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) that early but they used to open at 11am (some girls are there earlier but i would think not before 10:30)as a soi 8 / soi 11 regular i can confirm that lolos has girls available from between 8 and 8. 30am. i have certainly been sucked off there with a stinking hangover before 9am. the girls sit outside doing their makeup.
sol also can get service at 8. 30/9 although only 2 girls there until the day shift arrives around 11. 30. just bang on the door if its not open.
you're a great contributor to this forum nic but why would you doubt my word as i made it clear that it was my first hand (mouth) experience. i arrived there about 9:20 and at least ten girls were outside. granted some were working on their make up, but girls always do that. so i asked them if they're open for business already to which they agreed very cheerfully that they arrived there already at 8:30.
check it out yourself and report back please! thank you for your clarifications, islandboy54. for some (unknown to me) reason, it seems that the displaying of your report had been delayed and i answered to nicfrenchy's recent post before seeing your latest reply. so, it appears that [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s now opens earlier and that's a good news that should be mentioned on its website.
thank you again for your useful report, islandboy54!
Hi.
There are 3 older women in their fifties at Nana Hotel and carparking.
I have seen them there for many years, and I've never seen them with a "customer"
Does anyone know more about them?
BL
Given the s. Usually thrown at japanese people on this thread, including the most basic racist stereotypes, I would be surprised if any Japanese guy was masochistic enough to read this crap.The reason I think that Thai working girls like the Japanese is because they pay more money for anything extra, where as a westerner will only pay what he originaly first agreed with. So if the westerner ask her to have ice cream for beakfast with him the next morning than as far as he is concerned hes not going to give her more money for joining him.
Hey buttlover. I was also curious about those woman as I also did not see them with customers.
Last time I thought to myself: Why not?
It was a very pleasant encounter. Her body was not as a 18 year old but much better than expected and ofcourse her experience was unbeatable. She was also fun to be with. So I had a very good afternoon session.
I got pissed off by my two first experiences in Bangkok, so I decided to take two girls overnight in my room from "mango".
I called them but my skype hang up suddenly and I decided then to go there.
Once arrived, I felt very comfortable in the place, girls were smiling and having a positive attitude as well as the mamasan.
I asked for two girls overnight to my room. Damage would be 6000baths which is not bad at think!
Hard to make a choice and to pick girls. I really wanted cherry, who 's very cute but she gets her period. And seems to be sad when I said that I am not fond on girls on period. Finally, I chose Apple who was smiling and looked very nice to me and Cat. Cat wasn't here but the mama gave me the book and I found her very attractive!
None of the girls were really stunning but selection is more than ok there.
We agreed for 10pm to my room.
10pm, a knock on the door, girls arrived.
Apple seemed to be happy and in a good mood but Cat was like tired or something.
I asked what was going on there. And Apple explained me that Cat was sick and she actually looked sick. They told me that when I came to the shop, she was sleeping that's why she wasn't downstairs with the other girls.
Anyway, I told her not to stay here and that it would be better for her to get some rest. She was happy that I didn't get mad and she left. No problem, apple asked me if I wanted another the girl and she helped me to pick.
While we were waiting for Venus, We talked a lot, and it was actually nice. Then Venus arrived. She looks very different on the photos. She was promising on her photos but I was a bit disappointed when I saw her. Anyways.
Let's get the session started.
They took my and her clothes off and went to shower. How nice it was to be with this two nice bodies in the shower! They washed me with their boobs and went down on me.
They we headed to the bed. Where I felt like lost, everything was going two fast for me, they are very pro and knows what they are doing! Hard to take a breath. Apple was giving me a BBBJ while Venus was taking care of my nipples with her thongue. And then I don't know what happened and how but I was fucking Venus, touching her boobs and DATY on the shaved pussy of Apple. I was like in heaven. My eyes were shut and when I opened them again I was now eating Apple boobs and fucking Venus in another position! YEAH!
What the fuck! That is life. Jajaja. After a while apple wanted me to ride her, ok, I was now fucking Apple missionary while Venus was massaging my little hole. Hmmm. It was too much for me! Seriously! And I came!
WOW what a session! I didn't have to rest that the two angels were giving me thai massage and after maybe 30 minutes, they started to take care of my little brother again. Second round began. Kind of the same things happened (I don't remember exactly what but trust me guys, that was cool) until I came.
It was time to sleep now. I was in my king bed in the middle of them, we were cuddling and that was kind of nice, I must say. I fell asleep and after a while I woke up and Apple was stimulating my cock. Wow, this girl is never tired? Venus seemed less in the mood for sex this time. And third round, everybody 's ready. Let's go!
It was a bit hard to come this time and then after fucking Apple for a while, I jacked myself off until I came.
Then Venus told me she had to leave around six. No problem. But Apple said she could stay with me a bit more. After three pops, she could have left too, would not have been such big of a deal. But she stayed, well taking care of me!
6 o'clock, venus is leaving. I paid her 3000baths and when I went back to sleep, Apple started to suck me again, wow and then we had a 69 and she got wet for the first time this night. Before she was using lube. Cool!
We had very good sex until she proposed me her little hole. I politely refused and came on her breast! I was like exhausted after this night.
10 o clock, Apple is in the shower, I put discreetly 4000 baths in the pocket of her jeans 3000 + 1000 tip for the super good service!
She kissed me and left!
Now it's time to rest. And think about tonight what to do for my last night in Bangkok. Great to hear your report but to pay western prices or more than double the price you should be, will surely ruin Thailand as a mongerers destination. If it isn't happening already!
As I said liked the report but with that sort of money and tips we might as well wave Thailand gooodbye, as it will be spoilt like so many other places.
NicFrenchy
12-28-10, 01:43
Great to hear your report but to pay western prices or more than double the price you should be, will surely ruin Thailand as a mongerers destination. If it isn't happening already!
As I said liked the report but with that sort of money and tips we might as well wave Thailand gooodbye, as it will be spoilt like so many other places. Why is that? Prices are the same. He decided to take them for Overnight (that's 8 hours) and the price of 3, 000 is fair.
I usually drop that kind of cash in Mango for a 2 hours session (800 to shop. 2,000 to the lady).
3, 000 isn't bad for an overnight with a Mango girl.
Member #4698
12-28-10, 01:47
Nice report S. P. Now let's get the pricing in the proper perspective. For 90 minutes, in house with one girl the Mango price is 1500bt for the girl and 600 to the house if I am not mistaken for a total of 2100bt before tip. You took two Mango girls out from 10pm till morning for unlimited number of rides for 3000bt per girl before tip and the sex was very good. I think you got a good deal. By comparison a Baccara Go Go girl service fee is 2000bt plus barfine of 900bt before tip for short time. Or a Copa Cobana R sideline girl is 3100bt before tip for 90 minutes and 2 shots.
Now maybe the Baccara and Copa girls are prettier, or alternatively you can definitely find cheaper probably less attractive girls on the street or in beergarden. The point I think is that the Mango prices you paid are reasonable in today's Bangkok. And by the way, I think Apple is a peach.
The reason I think that Thai working girls like the Japanese is because they pay more money for anything extra, where as a westerner will only pay what he originaly first agreed with. I had a long discussion with an older Japanese chap a few nights ago which started at soi 7 Beer Garden and ended at Thermae. He, too, is dismayed at the Japanese willingness to overpay, and puts it down to two factors: 1) The relative low cost of, say, 4000 baht for a short-time in Bangkok compared to what the same (but probably less fun) would cost in a major metropolitan area in Japan, and 2) the willingness of the Japanese to pay a premium to have a girl who speaks even marginal Japanese. A lot of the Thermae girls have attempted to learn conversational Japanese, whereas the girls at establishments with similar "systems," such as Beer Garden, have not. A lot of Japanese really hate to be forced to try to speak English. At any rate, bear in mind that there are experienced Japanese in Thailand who resent the expectation on the part of the girls that they are willing to pay exorbitant prices.
One more thing, while the Japanese may be a xenophobic lot, there is little chance of a Japanese guy having too much to drink and deciding that it would be more fun to start a brawl than play with the girlies. I find this a pleasant contrast to the behavior of many of the visitors from a certain (nominally) European island nation. If Japanese get overly soused they generally throw up or start crying. At any rate, they know how to be civil, which counts for something.
Why is that? Prices are the same. He decided to take them for Overnight (that's 8 hours) and the price of 3, 000 is fair.
I usually drop that kind of cash in Mango for a 2 hours session (800 to shop. 2,000 to the lady).
3, 000 isn't bad for an overnight with a Mango girl.As we all know the average salary in Thailand per month is 8000 baht. She will go back to her boyfriend or any Thai guy back in her neighbourhood who can drum up 500 baht with no tip, while the boyfriend will be fucking and living off her for nothing amused that people are also handing out 1000 baht tips. Four hours for her where many of the people she knows have to work incredibly hard and all hours for two or three weeks for the same result. The pricing formula goes wrong if the mind is switched onto Western levels of living instead of the Far East. An example would be of an attractive working girl back home earning what the average person would earn in a week for a session of hide the sausage with a client but you know their is an imbalance when the ratio starts to work out at more like two to three weeks of an average monthly salary.
My friends have great girls who are all happy with what they are given either in Bangkok or in Pattaya. While still giving their girls more than the average Thai guy. I have lived and worked in various parts of the world and I have seen one destination after another being slowly ruined and westernised. Thailand has become hugely more expensive in a very short time with the strengthening baht, hike in what the establishments and the girls want, while airline / fuel prices continue to creep up. Inevitably, Thailand will become no more than a banal family tourist destination. At the end of the day, you will all say as long as the guy is happy, why should he worry about preserving a destination for the future. Hedonism is all about now and for the moment and the upward spiral of everyone trying to compete and pay more than the next person for the most attractive possible girl.
The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.
The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.I mean. OK, this is a mongering forum and we discuss about paid sex.
Fair enough, but. Expecting a REGULATION in this environment? Come on!
...Thailand has become hugely more expensive in a very short time with the strengthening baht, hike in what the establishments and the girls want, while airline / fuel prices continue to creep up. Inevitably, Thailand will become no more than a banal family tourist destination. At the end of the day, you will all say as long as the guy is happy, why should he worry about preserving a destination for the future. Hedonism is all about now and for the moment and the upward spiral of everyone trying to compete and pay more than the next person for the most attractive possible girl. The only ones to stop visiting Thailand will be the Cheap Charlies. As long as there are beautiful, friendly, loving Thai women (as in GFE), men of means will come to partake. It's the natural selection process at work. Supply and demand in the global economy.
The only ones to stop visiting Thailand will be the Cheap Charlies. As long as there are beautiful, friendly, loving Thai women (as in GFE), men of means will come to partake. It's the natural selection process at work. Supply and demand in the global economy."Men of Means" can partake of beautiful, friendly Thai or other women in the USA, or Europe or anywhere in the world, if you really are a Man or Means you do not need to travel.
Apple seemed to be happy and in a good mood but Cat was like tired or something.
I asked what was going on there. And Apple explained me that Cat was sick and she actually looked sick. They told me that when I came to the shop, she was sleeping that's why she wasn't downstairs with the other girls.
I already saw Kat on 26th (I think, or was it 27th - my memory fades). I can confirm Kat was worn out. All night drinking party with friends / workmates celebarting Christmas? Add to that an early take-out customer, didn't eat anything much and suffering from leg cramps. I advised her to take some vitamins and eat more food.
Although reluctant to go with me due to depleted energy, I had a good session with 2 shots. She got off a few times too. She didn't complain. I gave her the massage. Swedish and "French" which she appreciated.
By the end of this she was totally stuffed, so to speak. So I can understand she needed sleep, rest, food, etc.
Still a very pretty girl even if her maginificent smile has deserted her for a moment.
Mango is closed for a few days now for new year, I believe (from 28th I think).
i remember reading some previous post indicating some real cutie at doll's house. so wandered in at 8:30pm out of curiousity. a real boring looking group of girls dancing down stairs. a few ugly silicone jobs and no really nice bodies. perhaps the best lookers were gone already. had to go upsatirs for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and then saw they had nude table top dancers upstairs.
eventually called one over for a drink after i liked the expression on her face and her body and her dancing was superbly sexy. quite nice looking (forgiving a typical buri-ram nose) and not too dark. won't mention the name or number here. too scared of her getting bfed by some bestard reading this.
after a long chat (in mostly thai. her english rather limited) , found that she was of very exceptional character (for a bar-girl). no drinking, no smoking, no gambling, no thai boyfriend sucking her money (finished with him some time back) , sending all her earnings to the bank, and only been working 3 months. plans to not stay in business long. did not discuss how much for all night either.
fantastic gfe as well.
hot body, hot dancer, and enthusiastic sex, great kisser, although lacking the knowledge to give a great bj. suction powered tight pussy. we chatted till god knows what hour.
i am really shocked when i find a hot looking bargirl that is so thoroughly nice. it just doesn't happen much. her character as yet doesn't seem spoiled by being in the bar and seems to be resisting peer pressure well.
It was a very pleasant encounter. Her body was not as a 18 year old but much better than expected and ofcourse her experience was unbeatable. She was also fun to be with. So I had a very good afternoon session.I got a few freebies from a 41 year old Thai girl recently. Unfortunately after only having one BF who wasn't much good for the last 12 years or so, her experience is not that great. Found her to be boring in bed, body a rather flabby round the bum and thighs, bad breath from smoking very cheap cigarettes, pussy not 100% fragrant, a little too much pussy hair, etc. I have been too spoiled by the young hot bodies.
So I go back to paying and get a young dream girl. This is my bad character.
But I think older women who are not so pretty any more, or not so skillful, ought to pay to be well serviced too.
I would continue to do her if she paid me well. Otherwise or would rather pay to get a dream girl for a while. Its sometimes cheaper than a real GF anyway and you get what you pay for.
6 o'clock, venus is leaving. I paid her 3000baths and when I went back to sleep, Apple started to suck me again, wow and then we had a 69 and she got wet for the first time this night. Before she was using lube. Cool!
We had very good sex until she proposed me her little hole. I politely refused and came on her breast! I was like exhausted after this night.
10 o clock, Apple is in the shower, I put discreetly 4000 baths in the pocket of her jeans 3000 + 1000 tip for the super good service!
She kissed me and left!
Now it's time to rest. And think about tonight what to do for my last night in Bangkok. No wonder she offered her ass by herself-you have over-paid them.
Shaun Palmer
12-29-10, 06:44
I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny.
i had a long discussion with an older japanese chap a few nights ago which started at soi 7 beer garden and ended at thermae. he, too, is dismayed at the japanese willingness to overpay, and puts it down to two factors: 1) the relative low cost of, say. 4000 baht for a short-time in bangkok compared to what the same (but probably less fun) would cost in a major metropolitan area in japan, and 2) the willingness of the japanese to pay a premium to have a girl who speaks even marginal japanese. a lot of the thermae girls have attempted to learn conversational japanese, whereas the girls at establishments with similar "systems," such as beer garden, have not. a lot of japanese really hate to be forced to try to speak english. at any rate, bear in mind that there are experienced japanese in thailand who resent the expectation on the part of the girls that they are willing to pay exorbitant prices.
one more thing, while the japanese may be a xenophobic lot, there is little chance of a japanese guy having too much to drink and deciding that it would be more fun to start a brawl than play with the girlies. i find this a pleasant contrast to the behavior of many of the visitors from a certain (nominally) european island nation. if japanese get overly soused they generally throw up or start crying. at any rate, they know how to be civil, which counts for something. for your information, full sex or vaginal intercourse in tokyo with girls aged between 18-25 would cost somewhere between 20000 yen and 45000 yen for an hour or less plus 4000-8000 yen two hour-stay rate in a love hotel.
at the top end, girls are very pretty, tall (yes, not hard to find girls above 165 cm) , very fair (throughout-pink or very fair pussy increasingly with shaved or beautifully trimmed pussies) , fashionable, slender (no tummy, very flat) , long legs, well manicured and good mannered with good to great services. these 'northeast asian' qualities are highly regarded by most, if not all, thais too.
at the lower end, many girls are not really an ocean apart from the bar girls in bangkok, but would still cost 20000 yen plus 4000-8000 yen hotel rate with wildly unpredictable services. by the way, there are varieties of optional services and it is not hard to get anal sex, cim, bbbj, [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103), bondage, pegging or other kinky stuff.
in short whatever you can get in bangkok, japanese women can offer them too if money is no object, albeit, sadly mostly only to japanese and to a much lesser extent, japanese-speaking foreigners. this explains why your average japanese mongers in thailand are willing to overpay, because most of them would only go for the lower end of japanese girls in tokyo.
The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.Ha Ha, funniest (and dumbest) post of the day!
i remember reading some previous post indicating some real cutie at doll's house. so wandered in at 8:30pm out of curiousity. a real boring looking group of girls dancing down stairs. a few ugly silicone jobs and no really nice bodies. perhaps the best lookers were gone already. had to go upsatirs for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and then saw they had nude table top dancers upstairs.
eventually called one over for a drink after i liked the expression on her face and her body and her dancing was superbly sexy. quite nice looking (forgiving a typical buri-ram nose) and not too dark. won't mention the name or number here. too scared of her getting bfed by some bestard reading this.
after a long chat (in mostly thai. her english rather limited) , found that she was of very exceptional character (for a bar-girl). no drinking, no smoking, no gambling, no thai boyfriend sucking her money (finished with him some time back) , sending all her earnings to the bank, and only been working 3 months. plans to not stay in business long. did not discuss how much for all night either.
fantastic gfe as well.
hot body, hot dancer, and enthusiastic sex, great kisser, although lacking the knowledge to give a great bj. suction powered tight pussy. we chatted till god knows what hour.
i am really shocked when i find a hot looking bargirl that is so thoroughly nice. it just doesn't happen much. her character as yet doesn't seem spoiled by being in the bar and seems to be resisting peer pressure well. nice post and good info. just curious about not wanting to give out the bar name and her number. doesn't matter to me but just curious about your logic. did you take her out of the business or will she be back at work when you leave?
i had a (kinda. sort of) similar experience last week. i walk into this go go and a girl latches onto me (go go girl #1). i could immediately tell she was young and sweet but i also knew immediately that she would not make my dance card this evening as i had my eye on a few other much sexier ladies. so i politely talked to her for a few minutes then made my way onto my intended targets. took a girl (go go girl #2) and had a great night. 2 nights later i went in to possibly takegg#1 but she was not there. hung out with gg#2 for a while and re-explained that i am a butterfly and would not repeat with her (she understood this as i paid her well and we had a great night and i had already explained that i am really not a repeater and she got it) anyway, we talked for a few minutes and i bought her and a friend some drinks and took another girl for another great night.
went in 2 nights later and buy gg#2 some more drinks as i did like her and she's begging me to take gg#1 who was there. i didn't tell her that it was my intention all along but made it look like her idea. so i did and the results were exactly as i expected. the girl had been working for about 2 months but only had 2 customers before me. the reason she was not there 2 nights earlier was here second 'date'. so the guy takes her to a restaurant or a bar with food (i'm not sure) and she leaves her wallet on the table and when she gets back from the bathroom its gone. someone in the place (or the monger) stole it but you could predict it like the sun coming up! this little girl was the most innocent thing i've come across in years. sweet as a fig but too innocent. really, just a simple sweet girl.
so my evening goes as expected and she happy to do anything i direct. the perfect gfe (though she's not exactly rockin my world) its heavenly as when i roll off her spent and put my arm around her she doesn't move but to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) or make me another drink and then hurry back to please me. nice! but, the reality is that i am not repeating with her (well maybe once, we'll see) and it is an absolute certainty that she will get fucked over by some scumbag. certain! she's too simple / sweet not to and i don't want to be there to see the results because this is not some little undereducated, untrained american girl who after realizing hookering sucks, goes and enrolls in 2 classes in some local community college and claims to be a 'student'. this girl has nowhere else to go. no kids but parents are lazy shits who sent her off to support them and she can't quit unless she works in a mall for 300bhat a week and her parents won't tolerate that. tragic really.
now the moral of this long windbag story – i won't post her contact info (nor did i even take any pics) here because i think this girl should not be in this business. period. i'm not suggesting anyone here would fuck her over (though someone might, how would i know) but because i don't want to contribute to her demise. it will happen on its own and it will be ugly. not if but when. while some of the other girls clearly are looking after her and she's probably enjoying that camaraderie, it won't last long and surely some of the others will crush her in a heartbeat for a ping-pong ball.
but, i can't save the world as hard as i've tried. nothing i can do. you really have to pick your spots or try too hard and you end up getting fucked! the world is going to spin and people will do what people do.
but, sounds like your girl can take care of herself though so why not give her the extra business and post her info, if it's in fact true that she'll be leaving soon? more business will allow her to exit sooner (if in fact she really will quit which is 50-50 at best) lots of guys here love to take that type of shortcut.
Nice post and good info. Just curious about not wanting to give out the bar name and her number. Doesn't matter to me but just curious about your logic. Did you take her out of the business or will she be back at work when you leave?
But, sounds like your girl can take care of herself though so why not give her the extra business and post her info, if it's in fact true that she'll be leaving soon? More business will allow her to exit sooner (if in fact she really will quit which is 50-50 at best) Lots of guys here love to take that type of shortcut. You will see that normally I do post Girl's info. But many experienced mongers will understand my logic completely. I am obviously going back for her a few times myself (and can't be sure to get there early enough to be guaranteed the girl). I am not trying to take her out of the business (we only just met). I already gave her enough publicity for the nicer intellegent guys to find her if they really want to. I am not into complete spoon feeding the subset of totally self centred asshole dick-wits (and there are quite a few) on the forum, and I am not thinking of anyone in particular here (just generalising). Some guys won't bother to look for her as she doesn't do anal and is probably not that keen to try to blow a big banana (perhaps some training tonight).
You didn't post the girl's info either. .
I gave publicity to Mango Kat recently and now find reports that she is getting sick and very tired, perhaps contributed to by too many demanding customers.
I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny. Well said. You paid what you thought was fair for the service. Even Nic thinks it was fair.
If you pay fairly, the girls will always want to keep seeing you. They will try to avoid the Cheap Charlies.
I prefer to get a fairly moderately priced Hotel, big breakfast, eat cheaply frequently, and have more money left over for girls. During a few days with a freebie GIK, I may then pick a slightly more up-market Hotel or restaurant.
Too many posters are probably in the much cheaper Pattaya area. Some forum members need to move to cheap Cambodia, immediately (or perhaps even Tanzania, Nigeria etc.).
Some already have.
Despite the free market that any one guy cannot control, Thai girls remain a very good value for money option compared to many western Countries. There are cheaper countries of course.
... unless she works in a mall for 300BHAT a week...300 baht a week? The minimum wage is currently 206 baht per day in Bangkok! I guess that it is a typo in your case.
Some people here (I don't say that it is your case) don't know much about the local economics and I recommend everybody to have at least a look at the figures mentioned here (http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/4504/ber2009p6.gif), for instance. It helps to keep things in perspective.
For your information, full sex or vaginal intercourse in Tokyo with girls aged between 18-25 would cost somewhere between 20000 yen and 45000 yen for an hour or less plus 4000-8000 yen two hour-stay rate in a love hotel.That sounds about right. Didn't really need that information myself, but helpful to some on this board I'm sure.
In short whatever you can get in Bangkok, Japanese women can offer them too if money is no objectDon't really agree with this part. There is a sad lack of sanook in the Japanese P4P game- you might have found it in some of the Yokohama joints back in the day, although chances are the provider wouldn't have been Japanese. By and large the Japanese aren't really into spontaneity; they like to know what to expect, and prefer an accurate menu of services beforehand. This is probably why some of the places in Thailand that cater to the Japanese make such a big deal about "no tipping." Plenty of fun to be had with the non-P4P J-girls, which is a good thing since, as you rightly point out, the P4P in Japan is mostly off-limits to non-Japanese, although that doesn't necessarily apply to the very expensive soapies.
NicFrenchy
12-29-10, 12:02
I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny. \
I fully agree
The only ones to stop visiting Thailand will be the Cheap Charlies. As long as there are beautiful, friendly, loving Thai women (as in GFE), men of means will come to partake. It's the natural selection process at work. Supply and demand in the global economy.Men of means stay usually in their own environment and you will never see them running around Nana and in Pattaya, like the guys you see who have saved all year long to have some fun on a two week holiday. I can assure you, something I do know about for my sins having acted on behalf of some truly wealthy people in their pursuit of beautiful women to play hide the sausage with. Without giving too much away, I was finding it more and more difficult to attract these people to where I was in South America and the Far East because of their own set ups. Men of means are exactly that, they have made their money because they understand value / the market place are aware of every cent / penny and are more risk averse. You mistake value for money and the changing face of Thailand as just a discussion about nickels and dimes.
Thai girls who work in legitimate jobs in Bangkok can expect to make around 7, 000 baht per month if they don't have a university degree. With degree and a decent job, more like 11, 000 or 12, 0000.
Starbucks for example will pay about 9, 500 for entry level, and 50, 000 / month for a branch manager.
An apartment in On nut will be around 3000 or 4000 for 1 room. Obviously less if they're sharing or get a real crap place.
In Tokyo I paid around 35, 000 yen for 2 hours with an escort catering to farangs. Which is about 6500 baht / hour.
"Men of Means" can partake of beautiful, friendly Thai or other women in the USA, or Europe or anywhere in the world, if you really are a Man or Means you do not need to travel.It's a lot more fun to travel to an exotic destination than to stay home in the cold and gray. The BMW will still be in the garage when you return, right? Pro, isn't that why you like the PI so much?
El Frances
12-29-10, 16:46
I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny. Well, it all depends how pretty and young the girl is. 4000 is an acceptable price for top pretty girls (I. E. Fresh girls with firm slim body and lovely face).
I have 2 good Japanese Friends, and they are close enough to me to tell me that yes, they look down on every other guy that isn't Japanese. This is how they were raised and this is how they want to stay.Good luck them. They live in a shrinking country with a stagnated economy which is ever so quickly losing its world importance. Give it 20-30 years and we'll all be mongering in Japan.
I got pissed off by my two first experiences in Bangkok, so I decided to take two girls overnight in my room from "mango".Nice report! Glad you finally 'got' Bangkok. Why were you trying Skype? Get a local SIM. Cheap and no big deal.
Also, my apologies. I probably had a lot to do with why Cat was no in shape for you.
I already saw Kat on 26th (I think, or was it 27th - my memory fades). I can confirm Kat was worn out. All night drinking party with friends / workmates celebarting Christmas? Add to that an early take-out customer, didn't eat anything much and suffering from leg cramps. I advised her to take some vitamins and eat more food.
Yeah, there was also that fat fuck that did her 5 times that day. But I did tried to rub out the leg cramp! Sorry!
Why is that? Prices are the same. He decided to take them for Overnight (that's 8 hours) and the price of 3, 000 is fair.
I usually drop that kind of cash in Mango for a 2 hours session (800 to shop. 2,000 to the lady).
3, 000 isn't bad for an overnight with a Mango girl. It is money very well spent. Not overpayment at all!
No wonder she offered her ass by herself-you have over-paid them.
Guess you don't know/understand the concept of Mango/Tulip/Snow White/Victoria.
NicFrenchy
12-30-10, 00:29
Well, it all depends how pretty and young the girl is. 4000 is an acceptable price for top pretty girls (I. E. Fresh girls with firm slim body and lovely face).I disagree, there is no General benchmark here. The "Fresh girls with firm slim body and lovely face" are your thing, but might not be everyone elses
Indians and Arabs like Fat Girls.
Asians like Fair Skinned and pretty young.
Caucasians like Darker and with Boobs.
Different strokes for different folks.
And 4, 000 is very acceptable for an overnight with Anal. And besides, She did not ask for anything, he did give her the 1, 000 tip so I guess he thought she was worth it.
NicFrenchy
12-30-10, 00:33
It is money very well spent. Not overpayment at all!
Guess you don't know / understand the concept of Mango / Tulip / Snow White/Victoria. Victoria? The place on soi 39? It has the same M. O as Tulip and the likes?
Well, I learned something today.
NicFrenchy
12-30-10, 00:35
Yeah, there was also that fat fuck that did her 5 times that day. But I did tried to rub out the leg cramp! Sorry!Is this your idea of a Report? Come on. 5 times? Do Tell. .
300 baht a week? The minimum wage is currently 206 baht per day In Bangkok! I guess that it is a typo in your case.
Some people here (I don't say that it is your case) don't know much about the local economics and I recommend everybody to have at least a look at the figures mentioned.
here (http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/4504/ber2009p6.gif)
, for instance. It helps to keep things in perspective. True, thanks.
Is this your idea of a Report? Come on. 5 times? Do Tell. .Awww, keep it in your pants! .5 short spurts are my standard M. O. For these joints. But she was having trouble keeping her eyes open due to the partying the evening before. But having to be a contortionist due to the immense girth of the wrong part of my body she got a bad leg cramp. Tried to rub it out and suggest walking a bit, but that seemed to only help a little bit.
Victoria? The place on soi 39? It has the same M. O as Tulip and the likes?
Well, I learned something today. You must have been sleeping when we had that pissing contest. The place is owned by two former flower shop specialists.
Men of means stay usually in their own environment and you will never see them running around Nana and in Pattaya, like the guys you see who have saved all year long to have some fun on a two week holiday...Men of means are exactly that, they have made their money because they understand value / the market place are aware of every cent / penny and are more risk averse. You mistake value for money and the changing face of Thailand as just a discussion about nickels and dimes.Not necessarily true.
Many men choose to live in Thailand, or make it their base of operations, because they value what it offers in terms of lifestyle. Some foreign "men of means" make Thailand their "own environment" not just because they can afford to, but because they want to. They also make their money here.
Some men who live in Thailand never go to Nana or Pattaya for P4P. Others just come here on holiday because they enjoy what Thailand offers, and can pay for the best it provides (e. g., hotels, nice beaches, good food, lovely companions, etc.).
Thailand is quickly changing. The standard of living is increasing and the quality of life is improving. Some of what I experience living here is on par, or exceeds, what I left in the west.
What you fail to understand that there are a number of western men who lack the necessary "means" to compete in the fast-changing global economy as the value of their local currency decreases, and the marketability of their skill set drops. These are the men who will stop coming to Thailand in the future. These are the men who quibble over a few hundred baht difference in the price they pay to get laid.
It's a lot more fun to travel to an exotic destination than to stay home in the cold and gray. The BMW will still be in the garage when you return, right? Pro, isn't that why you like the PI so much?I think your right on the money.
That aside, I'm with the cutest little camera-shy 20 going on 35 year old Japanese looking Thai girl from Rainbow 2 and she's giving me a phenomenal blow job and I'm whispering to her yea, yea, yea. After I come she says to me that if a muay thai heard me saying yea he would slap me! She said I should say "yes, yes, yes" instead. So, anyone know what yea means in Thai?
Good luck them. They live in a shrinking country with a stagnated economy which is ever so quickly losing its world importance. Give it 20-30 years and we'll all be mongering in Japan.This kind of post is a good illustration why so few Japanese mongers are on ISG. I did not expect ISG members to have pundits in predicting the word economical situation. Pathetic.
I don't know where you are heading from, but if it is from the west, you prophecy may actually become true earlier there than in Japan.
NicFrenchy
12-30-10, 07:52
I think your right on the money.
That aside, I'm with the cutest little camera-shy 20 going on 35 year old Japanese looking Thai girl from Rainbow 2 and she's giving me a phenomenal blow job and I'm whispering to her yea, yea, yea. After I come she says to me that if a muay thai heard me saying yea he would slap me! She said I should say "yes, yes, yes" instead. So, anyone know what yea means in Thai? Well, before the Muay thai can slap you, he would have to be giving you a BJ. Or do you say "yea yea yea" to just about anyone? .
Well, before the Muay thai can slap you, he would have to be giving you a BJ. Or do you say "yea yea yea" to just about anyone? .Good point. No doubt his girlfriend boasted of my sexual prowess.....
It's a lot more fun to travel to an exotic destination than to stay home in the cold and gray. The BMW will still be in the garage when you return, right? Pro, isn't that why you like the PI so much?
Men of means stay usually in their own environment and you will never see them running around Nana and in Pattaya, like the guys you see who have saved all year long to have some fun on a two week holiday. I can assure you, something I do know about for my sins having acted on behalf of some truly wealthy people in their pursuit of beautiful women to play hide the sausage with. Without giving too much away, I was finding it more and more difficult to attract these people to where I was in South America and the Far East because of their own set ups. Men of means are exactly that, they have made their money because they understand value / the market place are aware of every cent / penny and are more risk averse. You mistake value for money and the changing face of Thailand as just a discussion about nickels and dimes.'Man of Means' need to travel more than you realize because they also have a known face and an image to protect.
It is a lot more fun to play around without worrying about someone recognizing your face or knowing who you are.
Smart 'Men of Means' will not touch any girl within their surrounding even if she is a 12 and lying naked with her legs spread.
LOS is a perfect hiding place for these people and they will find and over pay for quality.
Not necessarily true.
Many men choose to live in Thailand, or make it their base of operations, because they value what it offers in terms of lifestyle. Some foreign "men of means" make Thailand their "own environment" not just because they can afford to, but because they want to. They also make their money here.
Some men who live in Thailand never go to Nana or Pattaya for P4P. Others just come here on holiday because they enjoy what Thailand offers, and can pay for the best it provides (e. G, hotels, nice beaches, good food, lovely companions, etc.).
Thailand is quickly changing. The standard of living is increasing and the quality of life is improving. Some of what I experience living here is on par, or exceeds, what I left in the west.
What you fail to understand that there are a number of western men who lack the necessary "means" to compete in the fast-changing global economy as the value of their local currency decreases, and the marketability of their skill set drops. These are the men who will stop coming to Thailand in the future. These are the men who quibble over a few hundred baht difference in the price they pay to get laid. Let's get back to writing reports of distinction and the delights of what Thailand has to offer, as no voice of experience is going to impact on your view. Nor the facts or history, Thailand started off as a destination where GI 's could come and have much deserved R and R with female companionship at affordable rates. Which was then carried on by working men worldwide who could come and do the same giving light relief to their heavy work schedules at I repeat affordable rates in general.
As I said before you are free to pay as much as you like as long as you are happy. However, it is not just about you when you are part of ISG but also your fellow comrades in arms, who if they are new to the scene should be given some guidance on what is a fair price for them and for the lady involved and how that compares to other parts of the world. Throwing money at a situation is never the final solution and cannot hide the fact that "Money alone does not maketh the man."
This kind of post is a good illustration why so few Japanese mongers are on ISG. I did not expect ISG members to have pundits in predicting the word economical situation. Pathetic.
I don't know where you are heading from, but if it is from the west, you prophecy may actually become true earlier there than in Japan. Bullshit. The reason there are so few Japanese mongers on ISG is that it is in English. They have their own boards in their own language and don't need ISG. I love traveling to Japan an am there a few times a year on business. Their population is at negative growth. Outside of Tokyo people have been in 'scared to spend' mode for a very long time. They continue their xenophobic ways such as no foreigners can be on company X premise for project Y because they are scared they may need to communicate in English. They are a country in trouble but unwilling to try to adjust. This doesn't negate the fact that the West is screwed, but some of the West has a greater willingness to reinvent itself.
As for your surprise that ISGers might opine on world economy, you may want to look around ISG. There is. Thai stock market forum here and many ISGers have a life which stretches beyond the end of our dicks.
Let's get back to writing reports of distinction and the delights of what Thailand has to offer, as no voice of experience is going to impact on your view. Nor the facts or history, Thailand started off as a destination where GI 's could come and have much deserved R and R with female companionship at affordable rates. Which was then carried on by working men worldwide who could come and do the same giving light relief to their heavy work schedules at I repeat affordable rates in general Mr. Bond, I looked through your posts and while you certainly know Africa, I see very little about Thailand? You are correct, however, when you state that the ISG is a valuable guide for Thailand visitors with limited experience.
The Vietnam GI era you recall was long ago. America lost that war, and the foundation of the "farang" P4P scene remained in TH. As you wrote in a previous post, times are now quickly changing in TH. The western white male monger is in present danger of being eclipsed by a sea of diversity with newly acquired disposable income. But that does not mean the long established P4P industry is going anywhere soon.
As most people familiar with Thailand know, it is Thai men who command the lion's share of the quality working women in their country, as they have for centuries. Foreigners, (except for the free spending Japanese) , are mostly left with the women they will not touch.
Presently, I have a regular set of young women I can call at any time who will happily come over to my place at just about any time. I compensate my ladies with both money and gifts as I care for them as people, but unlike a man who selects his woman "by number," I am not guided by any prescribed "market rate." Price is rarely discussed, however, I do not overpay.
I have written many reports about my experiences here. Unfortunately, with no regret, I have little to report this holiday season, as I have a very nice woman from Mukdahan staying with me full time until after New Year's. After she returns home, my favorite "flower shop" lady from Nakhon Phanom will likely come to visit me in the early morning hours after her shift ends. And then, if I desire, there's the young lovely from Chaiyapoom, and the exotic beauty from Petchaburi. If at some point I choose to add another it is as easy as walking across the road and doing a few "interviews."
Please understand, to keep things in perspective, there is much more to enjoying life here in Thailand than paying a strange women 1500 baht for a quick fuck. Even a first time visitor can experience this if he so desires and makes minimal effort to learn the "ropes" a bit.
So, Mr. Bond, come and visit, find yourself a hot lady for a good price, and write a report of distinction that we all will enjoy.
Chok dee. Sawadee Pi Mai. Happy New Year!
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1107466]Bullshit. The reason there are so few Japanese mongers on ISG is that it is in English. They have their own boards in their own language and don't need ISG. I love traveling to Japan an am there a few times a year on business. Their population is at negative growth. Outside of Tokyo people have been in 'scared to spend' mode for a very long time. They continue their xenophobic ways such as no foreigners can be on company X premise for project Y because they are scared they may need to communicate in English. They are a country in trouble but unwilling to try to adjust. This doesn't negate the fact that the West is screwed, but some of the West has a greater willingness to reinvent itself.
Japanese are not willing to share valuable information with strangers, you cannot get very much from the Japanese equivalents of ISG in Japanese either. The most popular general bloggers' site is Mixi; many of which you cannot read unless you got the passwords from the bloggers. Japanese can be generous with friends in his group, but if you are not in, tough luck.
This mentality applies to Japanese P4P. Japanese men know they have a very wide range of women, from SE Asian looking ones to typically NE Asian ones, and from Afro-J girls to Eurasian ones, as well as offer the broadest range of services from image/cos play to eating excrements. They want to keep it to themselves as much and as long as possible. Some of them know the end is nigh, but they reckon they can probably keep it that way for another 10 years or so.
The eventual opening of Japan might not necessarily be a great news to the Western mongers, because Chinese from China, HK, Taiwan and even Singapore would be willing to pay high premium for Japanese women. In other words, regardless of the Japanese economy and shrinking population, the prices of Japanese women in P4P will likely to remain high if not edge a little higher due to the strong demand from Chinese men.
NicFrenchy
12-31-10, 07:48
many ISGers have a life which stretches beyond the end of our dicks.Nonsense. It's the Opposite! Look at the poor treatment we got? We wanted to talk about something other than our dicks and got segregated to a sub-forum.
ISGers are not about what happens beyond the end of their dicks at all: if it ain't happening in Mango or Tulip, no one here gives a fuck.
Now, I didn't know Thailand had stock markets? Care to elaborate on the subject?
NicFrenchy
12-31-10, 07:57
The eventual opening of Japan might not necessarily be a great news to the Western mongers, because Chinese from China, HK, Taiwan and even Singapore would be willing to pay high premium for Japanese women. In other words, regardless of the Japanese economy and shrinking population, the prices of Japanese women in P4P will likely to remain high if not edge a little higher due to the strong demand from Chinese men.Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.
One good thing about japanese girls (well, those I have been with as I can't generalise) is that they are not affraid of doing things as a group (2 or 3 girls doing one guy).
I have Japanese Friends and they are very reliable guys, hard working, dependable and always willing to go drinking LOL
Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.
One good thing about japanese girls (well, those I have been with as I can't generalise) is that they are not affraid of doing things as a group (2 or 3 girls doing one guy).
I have Japanese Friends and they are very reliable guys, hard working, dependable and always willing to go drinking LOLYes, Japanese girls are indeed interested in trying white or black cocks, though the younger generations, say below 30, are less enthusiastic than the previous generations. That's right, they can do a guy with with one or two other girls, but lesbian sex is less common.
Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.Definitely, I have had a lot of fun with Japanese girls I've met in Thailand over the years. Girls who wouldn't want their friends back home to know they've shagged a foreigner are more likely to try it here- as they say "Tabi no haji wo kakisute- Dispense with shame when on a trip".
Lucky Lukey
01-01-11, 07:10
Hey guys, I'm heading to Thailand for the first time this week, starting with Bangkok and then probably Pattaya, Phuket, etc. I have two questions:
1. What are the most upscale hotels in Bangkok that are ok with patrons bringing girls back?
2. Which exact places in Bangkok are known to have the HOTTEST girls?
Also, same questions for Pattaya, Phuket and possibly Chiang Mai. Thanks guys! .
Asia Butterfly
01-01-11, 07:22
Hey guys, I'm heading to Thailand for the first time this week, starting with Bangkok and then probably Pattaya, Phuket, etc. I have two questions:
1. What are the most upscale hotels in Bangkok that are ok with patrons bringing girls back?
2. Which exact places in Bangkok are known to have the HOTTEST girls?
Also, same questions for Pattaya, Phuket and possibly Chiang Mai. Thanks guys! . Lucky
There are so many hotels in BKK that are upscale and all of them are ok with bringing girls back. As a matter of fact for your saftey they will get the girl's I'd card and call you from the lobby which is kool. How upscale, depends on how much you want to spend. Check out the hotel section and there is lots of advice.
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Lucky
There are so many hotels in BKK that are upscale and all of them are ok with bringing girls back. As a matter of fact for your saftey they will get the girl's I'd card and call you from the lobby which is kool. How upscale, depends on how much you want to spend. Check out the hotel section and there is lots of advice.
A. BNo they are not all guest friendly. I have been extorted up to 700 baht just to have an extra girl in my room for a few hours. Short time?
There is a web site that will tell you and you can ask the hotel. Before you book. Bangkok tonight? Com.
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No they are not all guest friendly. I have been extorted up to 700 baht just to have an extra girl in my room for a few hours. Short time?
There is a web site that will tell you and you can ask the hotel. Before you book. Bangkok tonight? Com.
TI know there are lists with girl friendly hotels, but I did not yet find one of hotels accepting more than one lady without covering a joiner fee. Just to give a start: at Adelphi Grande, Soi 41 they did not even give a inquisitive look when coming back with two ladies, whereas at Dynasty Inn, Soi 6, the night service came running after me to collect, I think. 500 or 600 Baht for the second lady. In Pattaya, I can for this issue recommend Soi 2 Inn.
I know there are lists with girl friendly hotels, but I did not yet find one of hotels accepting more than one lady without covering a joiner fee. Just to give a start: at Adelphi Grande, Soi 41 they did not even give a inquisitive look when coming back with two ladies, whereas at Dynasty Inn, Soi 6, the night service came running after me to collect, I think. 500 or 600 Baht for the second lady. In Pattaya, I can for this issue recommend Soi 2 Inn.Yes dynasty is listing as guest friendly but they have given me problems.
Nana hotel is friendly and no issues other then they want the girls I'd.
Penthouse on soi 15 above the kit kat go go bar. And sandy springs on soi 13 is totally guest friendly so far.
In Bangkok.
Some thing like the president? With other names also on soi 9 or close.
Look on web sites?
I will look up some of the other places I have stayed but better you ask if they charge for guests.
To me its a rude surprise when they jack you up.
I always rent the room for two people even if by myself.
Sandy springs I have brought six girls in one time and they spent the nite and no issues. Other then some of the girls.
Had to sleep on the floor.
NicFrenchy
01-02-11, 06:30
Adelphi Grande, Soi 41 they did not even give a inquisitive look when coming back with two ladies, whereas at Dynasty Inn, Soi 6, the night service came running after me to collect, I think. 500 or 600 Baht for the second lady. In Pattaya, I can for this issue recommend Soi 2 Inn.He said Upscale. There is nothing upscale about the hotels you just mentioned.
We have a Special Thread for hotels, I suggest to read it first, all the info is there.
The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.Well george, I have over spent on girls, but you'll find if she's a hot attractive 20 year old then she expects more money, surely you would if you knew you could get more money out of something you did, and in 40 years time no man would be interested in you.
Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.
One good thing about japanese girls (well, those I have been with as I can't generalise) is that they are not affraid of doing things as a group (2 or 3 girls doing one guy).
I have Japanese Friends and they are very reliable guys, hard working, dependable and always willing to go drinking LOLThanks, Nic, for bringing some common sense to this discussion.
Japanese girls travelling abroad are fair game, very willing, and definitively wilder than Western girls. Had the same experience as you with some in the UK.
Also, you don't look at ISG for advice on investment? What a pity, there are Economics Nobel pize winners on the forum, able to predict what the world willl look like in 20 years.
NicFrenchy
01-03-11, 09:42
Also, you don't look at ISG for advice on investment? What a pity, there are Economics Nobel pize winners on the forum, able to predict what the world willl look like in 20 years.No need for me to listen to someone's crap about how the world will look like in 20 years. I already know that. I prefer a 40 years forecast. Anyone?
The "japanese only" policy of Thermae girls is pretty obnoxious. Tokyo itself is filled with hundreds of amazing sex clubs, none of which foreigners are permitted to enter. If that attitude starts infecting more clubs in Bangkok it will be pretty annoying.I thought it was mostly Koreans I saw at Thermae recently. A small sprinkle of Japanese but by far mostly Koreans. Am I wrong?
I prefer a 40 years forecast. Anyone?We can anticipate german sausages will still be on demand! .
No need for me to listen to someone's crap about how the world will look like in 20 years. I already know that. I prefer a 40 years forecast. Anyone?I suggest investing in a serviceable small boat to get around. Bangkok will likely be inundated with several meters of water.
Why do you think they build all the new condos with multiple floors of car parking at the base?
So, Mr. Bond, come and visit, find yourself a hot lady for a good price, and write a report of distinction that we all will enjoy.
Chok dee. Sawadee Pi Mai. Happy New Year! Happy New Year to you and all fellow members at ISG. In between your time with various hotties and recounting your explots, in the quieter moments may I recommend some light reading. Lawrence Osborne's 'Bangkok Days' really is the definitive and realistic view of life in Thailand. Which I can associate with in my time living here. Enjoy.
We can anticipate german sausages will still be on demand! .LOL.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?
SpanishBoy 29
01-03-11, 20:25
Mafiadorea, thai are not racist, you was in the wrong place in the wrong time, thai like money and money, no money they hate you, but in russia and ukraine they are very racist. You need to be carefull every where the samr in your home town. Play safe and smart nothing will happent to you.
I am an African American male. ...I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?I'm a white man and can't speak to the underlying racism across an entire population in Asia (and sorry about that). What I will say is that I met many, many women who told me, unprompted, that they crave "chocolate" men! I had to laugh out loud, not having heard that term in a while. At a beer bar, Simon 2, in Patts a couple brothers passed by and were bombarded with cooing calls from the lasses, much more than the other punters. For a bit of fun I hollered "yoo hoo, sailor!" too. We all had a good laugh. I suppose my point is that you'll find that you will be adored by the ones who count the most. The girls!
LOL.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
And I also hope that by then technology will sort out those damn single portion marmalade / jam lids in SEA. LMAO
Beller Ophon
01-04-11, 00:55
I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?Most of the talk I have seen on the forums is very Indian-centric racism, not at all places but certainly some. That being said, other Indian contributors have come on and said they haven't had trouble but that they dress well and don't show up at Go-Go's in a t-shirt and shorts.
I think if you're worried about Racism make sure you're tidy and presentable when checking out the night life, I think it isn't right that some white gentleman can go around looking like crap and still get service. But it is what it is I suppose. If you don't like the vibe at a venue, go somewhere else. They lose in the end because they don't get your money. There's so many girls at a lot of these venues and while some may not want to go with a black guy others certainly will, you won't have a problem finding a girl that likes you (and you like in return). If a girl doesn't want to go with you, don't worry about it and don't get unhappy because that won't help anything. And you're on vacation! Why waste time being pissed eh? Just move on to another bird.
NicFrenchy
01-04-11, 01:43
LOL.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Ha! And that makes you laugh? Hehehe.
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