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Shing Taikoo
02-03-08, 10:50
So if a guy like me was real interested in finding a russian/white lady for the night, where would be my best places to look? I will be making first trip to Bangkok next week. Any help would be appreciated and will definitely post my experience.

Thanks,

GTNot exactly 'white ladies' but a number of middleeast ladies are available in Grace Hotel. The rate quoted is THB2000 for ST. A numer of them are stunners. But a bit rude and aggro. Never tried, eventhough want to badly try one next time.

If you find any white/russian lady in CM2 or elsewhere, please report here for benefit of other members.

Thanks

Borat69
02-03-08, 15:49
A quick report. Today we finally hit up a bunch of the places listed here:

-First we took a cab over to Long Beach near Rama 9, based on positive recommendations here. Cabbie wanted 100b from where we are (near Soi 24), and TBH never sure if that's a decent rate. I think we should stick to the meter. Anyway for some reason Long Beach appeared almost completely empty. There were only like 2 or 3 girls! But they were decent looking. Burned 300b on drinks then we left.

-Took another cab to BKK cozy. There were also a limited supply again. Not sure if it's because it's Sunday afternoon. Maybe 4 or 5 girls and all were dogs. So we left.

-After lots more messing around, hitting up Nana plaza and being completely disappointed by the quality of girls (5-6s) and another 150b down the drain on transport... at this stage we were getting pretty fed up... we met a cabbie which offered to take us back to our hotel for 100b, or to this place I mentioend before 'pasa', and if we don't see anything we like he will drive us back for free. so we took that option.

-Well, Pasa turned out to be the club mentioned a handful of times on here called 'Cupidy'. I guess that's what the locals call it. Anyway, I was actually quite astounded when first walking into the club. There were more than 50 girls to select from. About 15 behind a window, and another 20-30 sat on the open area. At first sight I thought they were all really attractive, only close inspection they were maybe 7s with a couple of 8s. No where as hot as the girls I mentioned in Patpong.

-My pal went with a girl behind the windows for 2800b in total... which I think is slightly overpriced, for 2 hours. But she was a hottie. Apparently with some attitude though. Charged 500 tips (in the 2800). I went with a darker skinned but pretty stunning girl in the open area, which apparently costs more. For papasan + fee and 2 pops I ended up negotiating 3k in total.

Overall we had a pretty nice time, but feel like we're no where close to hitting the quality we want for the price we hope to get. Maybe we're being ambitious. We're now contemplating a trip to Pattaya instead because checking the boards htere stunners can be had for 1k. On the other hand I wonder if I sould just be touristy, and go with the super hot 3k chicks in Patpong. Unfortuantely the quality I saw at this particular place is still unrivaled anywhere else...

I wonder if there are also any decent priced Russians in BKK like I read about in Pattaya?

Evil Penivel
02-03-08, 22:17
This installment takes up where Part 1 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=700256&postcount=1164) and Part 2 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=700261&postcount=1165) left off. As always, the pages should be opened in order - A1, B2, C3, etc.

I'm getting close to the end, only two more days left in the trip. It's been fun writing it up and arranging the pics, I relive each day and incident in detail and that's part of the enjoyment of the experience. It also makes the waiting time for my next trip more tolerable. And I appreciate all the kind words - many thanks!

M P Lurker
02-04-08, 06:14
A quick report. Today we finally hit up a bunch of the places listed here:

-First we took a cab over to Long Beach near Rama 9, based on positive recommendations here. Cabbie wanted 100b from where we are (near Soi 24), and TBH never sure if that's a decent rate. I think we should stick to the meter. Anyway for some reason Long Beach appeared almost completely empty. There were only like 2 or 3 girls! But they were decent looking. Burned 300b on drinks then we left.
If they were decent looking, you didn't need to leave or drink too much. Just wait for the best lookers to emerge.

-Took another cab to BKK cozy. There were also a limited supply again. Not sure if it's because it's Sunday afternoon. Maybe 4 or 5 girls and all were dogs. So we left.

I am surprised so few, but optimum times are like 3:30 or 4PM on Friday or Saturday.
You did not say what time you were there on Sunday. Could have been too early?

Its true there are some good looking girls in downstairs bars in Patpong.
But its hard to find those that are not just in rip-off mode.

AsiaTraveler2
02-04-08, 10:25
Overall we had a pretty nice time, but feel like we're no where close to hitting the quality we want for the price we hope to get. Maybe we're being ambitious. We're now contemplating a trip to Pattaya instead because checking the boards htere stunners can be had for 1k. On the other hand I wonder if I sould just be touristy, and go with the super hot 3k chicks in Patpong. Unfortuantely the quality I saw at this particular place is still unrivaled anywhere else...

I wonder if there are also any decent priced Russians in BKK like I read about in Pattaya?

Borat69,

If you don't like the girls at Soi Cowboy or Nana, don't expect to find any to your liking in Pattaya. From what I'm reading from your posts, you are after the J-Girl look. The 3K baht girls you are talking about at Patpong, are the spillover affect from the Thaniya Plaza area bars, which cater to the Japanese. At least, that's my perception. Maybe someone who lives in BKK and see's it every day could offer an insiders perspective.

I have not seen a 1K baht stunner in Pattaya or BKK, since the prices have crept up to the current levels. Some love Pattaya and others like myself, find it a major turnoff. You do need to see it for yourself, since only you know what you are looking for. Just go there with your expectations in check.

AT2

Traveler1234
02-04-08, 11:43
I'm getting close to the end, only two more days left in the trip. It's been fun writing it up and arranging the pics,

EP - tell Ms. T we miss her on Soi 33.

Your pix and commentary a pleasure to read.

Evil Penivel
02-04-08, 14:16
EP - tell Ms. T we miss her on Soi 33.



Whoa, you mean she's not there anymore? That's unfortunate. I thought I'd be able to see her smiling face again in March. Oh well, not exactly the first time a girl has moved on to something different.

Evil

Giotto
02-04-08, 15:04
Whoa, you mean she's not there anymore? That's unfortunate. I thought I'd be able to see her smiling face again in March. Oh well, not exactly the first time a girl has moved on to something different.
...
Evil Penivel,

Don't worry, she has some days off, will be back soon :).


Giotto

Montrealer2
02-04-08, 18:00
Hi guys,

I have a fetish for nylons, pantyhose and uniforms (schoolgirl, air stewardess, nurse, maid, etc...). I am aware that there are supposedly take-out bars that cater to these types of places. Would you know of any in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket?

Thx in advance!

PS: I've heard that Afterskool in Soi Cowboy could fit my desire. Is that true?

Darth Luca
02-05-08, 09:02
Hi All,

Yeah my first day in LOS. I hit the malls today. ( big mistake very big and I didn't realize the time would past so quickly ) but anyway Pantip and MBK was great. I came back to Livingstone's to freshen up and then to Annies for a soapy. Line up was very few (about 10 girls) I have chosen No27, not the best looking but nice body was very good company. After the first shot she gave me superb massage I even fall asleep :) Then one more time on her request. On the way back I saw No:9 at the bar. She was HOT. I will give her a try. Time was 23:30 and I was feeling dizzy (too much vodka with bacardi blazers is not good) so I decided to call the night. I had a quick stop at Thermee. Place was crawling with young stunners. I will check tonight again when I am sober. Also in the Lounge the is this one hot girl but she was with another guest, I will see if I can find her alone other nights. She has the cutest smile of Thailand I guess.

Thats all for now. Day 2 will come tomorrow. And when I am back, detailed reports will follow. Hey I am here for holiday not to spend my whole time in front of a computer :))

Evil Penivel
02-05-08, 09:58
Hi guys,

I have a fetish for nylons, pantyhose and uniforms (schoolgirl, air stewardess, nurse, maid, etc...).

Just about any girl from any establishment will be able to fulfill your fantasy about nylons or pantyhose - just ask her to wear them. If she doesn't have, they can be bought cheaply from a street stall or store. The girl will know.

Regarding uniforms - the Eden Club on Soi 7/1 has an extensive collection (not sure about stewardess, but I know they have the others you mention.) Schoolgirl is common at many bars. Just by chance, I was in Livingstones on the "French maid" night. One photo below is Miss D from Livingstones, the other from Secrets in Pattaya.

Evil

PinkPearl
02-05-08, 09:58
Not exactly 'white ladies' but a number of middleeast ladies are available in Grace Hotel. The rate quoted is THB2000 for ST. A numer of them are stunners. But a bit rude and aggro. Never tried, eventhough want to badly try one next time.

If you find any white/russian lady in CM2 or elsewhere, please report here for benefit of other members.

ThanksI've run into some white-skinned half Thai and half European P4P ladies.

If one seeks and asks around, i expect they are not too hard to find in BKK,
a city of like 9 million people.

Have been told that foreign soldiers in Udon Thani made many mixed breed
TG beauties. So that might be another place to find these women.

PinkPearl
02-05-08, 10:23
any recent reports about bangkok law officers going into bars and demanding [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) tests for all there? even though one may be a law abiding citizen abroad. those tests could pick up something from the home routine.

there were reports of this a year or two back.

veterans? ex pats? informed opinions?i read every post here at isg religiously, and there have been no reports.

however with the new cronies voted in, oth says things could get hairy soon, so beware. oth is always infallible in his prophetic utterances.

what i suggest you do if you go to any bars is keep your eyes open for uniformed and uncover cops. crossing fingers behind the back might not be a bad idea either.

better yet, do what i do. avoid the drunken bar scene, paying lady drinks
and bar fees by picking up a hottie on the street.

PinkPearl
02-05-08, 10:43
I have not seen a 1K baht stunner in Pattaya or BKK, since the prices have crept up to the current levels.

AT2What are you calling a stunner? Ladies like Dada and Nampeung on the
Thailand 2007 Maxim DVD? Or Gay from Pattaya as seen in the magazine
After Dark? I find 1000 Baht girls like this eveyday on the streets of BKK.

M P Lurker
02-05-08, 11:02
Regarding uniforms - the Eden Club on Soi 7/1 has an extensive collection (not sure about stewardess, but I know they have the others you mention.) Schoolgirl is common at many bars. Just by chance, I was in Livingstones on the "French maid" night. One photo below is Miss D from Livingstones, the other from Secrets in Pattaya.

Evil
Livingstone's Miss Dear is really a wonderfully pretty and classy looking girl!
Stunning!
Whoops, I think some others said the same thing.

Daddy San
02-05-08, 11:36
...Forget 2K baht and under though. Think 2K baht to 4K baht and possibly higher as the price range at those massage places.... AT2I am confused about the prices quoted here and in other posts.

I am also aware of escorts (outcall) advertising on ***tonite (may the boss forgive me this one time!) for 2000/4000 THB for ST/LT. Ok, they may not be the youngest, but look great and have favorable reviews.

Is there a catch and if so, what have I missed?

I realise that MPs provide a different experience and to each his own and all that, but as far as value for money, services clearly and unambiguously offered and possible GFE goes, the escort route seems preferable to me.

Can a knowledgeable monger pls comment?

Richo Stevens
02-05-08, 16:19
Okay, where could I get a genuine Uni girl which doesnt make a living out of p4p? Standing outside the uni won't do any good I assume, so what do you guys recommend? Any websites or webboards that could do the trick, or anyone have some connections as to where to find them (maybe a current GF at uni e. G? )?

LuvumBare
02-06-08, 00:11
Congratulations on super posts. It is easy to see why you are a travel writer.
While it is always fun to read the "penetration" stories, you have certainly added a new dimension as a "class act".

Mongers visiting BKK should keep in mind that a quick trip to Ancient City will give them a camera full of nice tourist shots for the folks back home.
'bare

Pwap007
02-06-08, 00:59
First time in Bangkok, what is a guy to do?

The more research undertaken, in this forum and others, the more confused I became. In the end I went with what seems to be a few longstanding benchmarks of what Bangkok has to offer: Hey Deuce! Nice report from an un-jaded newbie! I gotta check out Annies, sounds like you had a ball. I mean nice piece of ass.

Old Thai Hand
02-06-08, 01:54
Okay, where could I get a genuine Uni girl which doesnt make a living out of p4p? Standing outside the uni won't do any good I assume, so what do you guys recommend? Any websites or webboards that could do the trick, or anyone have some connections as to where to find them (maybe a current GF at uni e. G? )?

I always find this question amusing. One likely couldn't pick up "genuine" uni girls in the States that easily. So, why would anyone think they could here?

One does occasionally sees a few Farang lurking around university campuses here and I've actually been approached a couple of times by them asking "how to talk to the girls" - I suppose they assume I'm one of them. This type of thing seems to be increasing lately. But, I wouldn't recommend it. Apart from the fact that campus security would probably go after you, it would be a pointless excercise at most unis. One of the few universities where students might be game, if you approached them is Ramkhamhaeng. But, you'd have to speak Thai and you'd have to NOT look like the typical geezer one sees trolling aroung the Nana area. Still, the more likely reaction would be nervous giggles followed by a hasty retreat. Average Thai girls are generally scared of Farang.

There are no webboards for students, unless you can write in Thai and even if you could, as a Farang, you'd be shut out quite quickly. It's very difficult to pick up a uni girl, at the best of times, especially if you are visiting, unless you are quite young and good looking. The best place to meet quality uni girls is in the Thai clubs around Ratchada soi 4-8 and the clubs in the Thonglor/Ekamai area. RCA might have some. But, it tends to only attract teenagers these days.

There are also lots of students of every description hanging around Siam Square. But, again I wouldn't recommend approaching them as they'd likely rebuff you and run away.

Unless you look like Orlando Bloom or Leonardo di Caprio, I'd say your chances are nil.

Old Thai Hand
02-06-08, 02:11
Have been told that foreign soldiers in Udon Thani made many mixed breed TG beauties. So that might be another place to find these women.

A little out of date PP. Any Luk-kreung who had a daddy in the military in Udon would be well on in her 30s at least, by now.

Most young luk-kreung one sees around these days are the products of mis-alliances between love-struck sex tourists and their rent-a-skank/wife.

As Thailand becomes (very, very slowly) more global and more accepting of outsiders, you'll see in about 20 years or so lots of luk-kreung from more normal Farang-Thai relationships.

Duniawala
02-06-08, 05:56
I always find this question amusing. One likely couldn't pick up "genuine" uni girls in the States that easily. So, why would anyone think they could here?
....................................
Unless you look like Orlando Bloom or Leonardo di Caprio, I'd say your chances are nil.
Hey OTH,

Go to Vegas or Atlantic City during summer breaks and you can get quite a few Uni girls. No kidding.

And you must be a handsome man looking like Bloom.

I am in BKK and staying at LL. Why don't you come on down this evening and I will buy the drinks.

Duni

VisitUSA
02-06-08, 05:57
Got 3 days left, and feel like I'm running out already! The Soi Cowboy girls are definitely not up my alley, we went twice now. Think Nana will pretty much be the same. We've stuck to the rows of massage places on Soi 22 but teh girls there are mostly 5-7 with the occasional 8. I have to say that I'm tempted to go back to that hot club in Patpong with all the hotties wanting $3k +BF , and negotiate it for longer.

I am loving this place tho... wow.

Can you tell me please of all the Lord Group places - where is the highest ratio of tall, leggy white skin (jap look, mixed look) models that can be had for $2k under ? :) I am tempted by Long Beach and Copa Cabana. Yummy. I like gold star.I was in Patpong last night and did not see ANY hot club. Do you remember the name of that club ? Is it on Patpong 1 or Patpong 2?

Thanks in advance for your help to find higher quality from what I am seeing now in BKK.

AsiaTraveler2
02-06-08, 06:54
I am confused about the prices quoted here and in other posts.

I am also aware of escorts (outcall) advertising on ***tonite (may the boss forgive me this one time!) for 2000/4000 THB for ST/LT. Ok, they may not be the youngest, but look great and have favorable reviews.

Is there a catch and if so, what have I missed?

I realise that MPs provide a different experience and to each his own and all that, but as far as value for money, services clearly and unambiguously offered and possible GFE goes, the escort route seems preferable to me.

Can a knowledgeable monger pls comment?

Daddy San,

I'm assuming you are going to BKK for the 1st time and hence the question. If I'm wrong, my appologies. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, RCA clubs, Soi 33, Pegasus, The Pent, Ratchadapisek Soapy Massage Parlors, Beer Garden, Club Forte, Thonglor, Eden are all very different experiences. Different types of girls, different types of customers, and different pricing structures. Basic supply and demand rules apply, like anywhere else in the world and of course cost factors. Each venue and girl charges what they can. In general, you get what you pay for, and I mean the total package of services and not just the girl.

You just need to visit each, to get a feel for what you want. I would not rule out escorts, but that should be the last resort or only as an option if you require discretion and cannot be seen at the other venues. You are paying a big premium for convenience and discretion. Soi 33 is also expensive. You are paying for a better bar (Compare a Soi 33 bar and a Nana Plaza Bar). Let's face it. Nana has many many girls, but it's a shit hole. You are also paying for a nice quiet ambiance in Soi 33. You won't be sitting next to 20 other knuckle draggers. You may see one or two other customers at most. That can mean alot to some and may be worth the higher price and for others, who cares.

The Go-Go's (Nana & Soi Cowboy) have average to attractive girls and occassionally a stunner. You pay the barfine and negotiate with the girl. Mostly Issan girls and some fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls (mostly in the Rainbow bars). Rates 1,500 ST and 2,000 to 2,500 baht LT, with many variations in between, depending on how busy things are, the girls looks, your looks and your negotiating skills. Again, supply and demand.

With Escorts, you are paying for the agency fee. It's much higher than a barfine. My guess is at least half and more likely two thirds of the fee goes to the agency. That makes it a pricey option, so you really better like the convenience of picking up a phone or the discretion it provides. Most rates are 3,000 to 6,000 baht for ST. Pricey if you ask me. Beware the bait and switch too. If you find an Escort for 2,000 baht, you will probably be sorely disappointed when she arrives, unless she is a freelancer not connected with an agency. For 2,000 baht, you can get an attractive girl in Nana, Soi Cowboy or any other place and probably can get one for 1,500 baht. You also get to meet the girl face to face and get a gauge on her personality at a Go-Go. With an Escort service, the girl's pic may not look anything like her when she shows up and she could be completely incompatible personality wise. Of course, some may enjoy the unknown, and that would be a plus for them.

With the Soapy's, you are going to see primarily the fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls. They do command a premium in BKK. Just the way it is. How you feel about them in terms of looks, vs. the Issan girls is purely taste. Some people like seafood, others like steak and some like Chicken. Why are they priced differently? Supply and demand and cost factors. The Soapy massage parlors have a higher overhead, so you are paying for that too. It's a hotel basically, with large tubs for a nice wash by the girl, dining, and a large selection of girls for browsing. If you don't care to be washed, don't care about facilities, don't care about the fishbowl concept, then it's not for you. Rates range from 1,500 baht to 5,500 baht, depending on the Soapy and the girl.

The bottom line, is you need to see and experience these for yourself and then determine if it's for you and is worth the asking prices. Just keep in mind, a girl or a place will not ask for 3,000 baht or more, unless they can. You can bargain down, so asking price is not the same as getting price. Think cars.

When you say the escort route seems preferable to you, are you talking from actual experience IN BKK? Other places don't count, since it's really not the same situation. Have you actually been to a Soapy or to a Go-Go or to a Gentlemen's club like the Pent? Just asking, since I don't know where you are coming from.

For me, I like them all, and for different reasons. They all have pros and cons and it's like having Seafood one night, Steak another and Pasta on another. I have had great meals for $5 and $100, and don't regret any of them or what I paid for them.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
02-06-08, 07:23
What are you calling a stunner? Ladies like Dada and Nampeung on the
Thailand 2007 Maxim DVD? Or Gay from Pattaya as seen in the magazine
After Dark? I find 1000 Baht girls like this eveyday on the streets of BKK.

PinkPearl,

Everyone has different views of what constitutes a stunner. Been to BKK often enough over 20 years, to know what's on the streets in BKK. That's just my opinion and I'm sorry if my personal view offends you. Please read Borat's posts, to which I was answering. He visited Soi Cowboy and Nana and nothing piqued his interest. Read between the lines and ask yourself if he is going to find what he is looking for in the 1,000 baht range. I can find girls I like at Nana and Soi Cowboy. They do not need to be stunners, for me to have fun or to get my attention. Attractive will do.

I'm sorry, but the girl who is willing to settle for 1,000 baht is either very very very new or not in high demand. There are 10's of thousands of girls you can find for 1,000 baht or less even now. I have seen enough of them and very few pique my interest. There's always exceptions, but I would not call anyone of them stunning. Just one guys point of view. I'm sure you have your reasons for feeling otherwise. Unless we are in BKK at the same time, we will never know why the other feels the way they do. To compare notes face to face, so to speak.

Is the pic below, the Dada you speak of? If you can get girls like her for 1,000 baht or less in BKK now, you are a better man than I. I have never seen it done in my presence. Sorry, I'm a show me kind of guy, so stories don't count for me. If you have done it, what I think should not matter to you.

If the 2nd pic is the Nampeung you are talking about, then no, I do not consider her a stunner. Attractive, but not stunning, and you can find as good or possibly better in any of the Major Soapy's, Nana or Soi Cowboy and definitely at the Pent. Of course, it could be a bad pic and the Dada pic could be a great pic. But just based on the pics alone and not having seen them in person, I would give Dada a 9 and Nampeung a 7. I see a large gap in looks between the two.

But really, in the end, I was just answering Borat's question based on his comments and my personal view. Just 1 opinion out of a billion. Only trying to help the guy.

AT2

Wandere
02-06-08, 08:09
Must say very nice anaylisis put up nicely.

Cheers!


Daddy San,

I'm assuming you are going to BKK for the 1st time and hence the question. If I'm wrong, my appologies. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, RCA clubs, Soi 33, Pegasus, The Pent, Ratchadapisek Soapy Massage Parlors, Beer Garden, Club Forte, Thonglor, Eden are all very different experiences. Different types of girls, different types of customers, and different pricing structures. Basic supply and demand rules apply, like anywhere else in the world. Each venue and girl charges what they can. In general, you get what you pay for, and I mean the total package of services and not just the girl.

You just need to visit each, to get a feel for what you want. I would not rule out escorts, but that should be the last resort or only as an option if you require discretion and cannot be seen at the other venues. You are paying a premium for convenience and discretion.

The Go-Go's (Nana & Soi Cowboy) have average to attractive girls and occassionally stunners. You pay the barfine and negotiate with the girl. Mostly Issan girls and some fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls (mostly in the Rainbow bars). Rates 1,500 ST and 2,500 LT, with many variations in between, depending on how busy things are and of course the girls looks. Again, supply and demand.

With Escorts, you are paying for the agency fee. It's much higher than a barfine. My guess is half of the fee goes to the agency. That makes it a pricey option, so you really better like the convenience of picking up a phone or the discretion it provides. Most rates are 3,000 to 6,000 baht for ST. Pricey if you ask me.

With the Soapy's, you are going to see primarily the fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls. They do command a premium in BKK. Just the way it is. How you feel about them in terms of looks, vs. the Issan girls is purely taste. Some people like seafood, others like steak and some like Chicken. Why are they priced differently? Supply and demand. The Soapy massage parlors have a higher overhead, so you are paying for that too. It's a hotel basically, with large tubs for a nice wash by the girl, dining, and a large selection of girls for browsing. If you don't care to be washed, don't care about facilities, don't care about the fishbowl concept, then it's not for you. Rates range from 1,500 baht to 5,500 baht, depending on the Soapy and the girl.

The bottom line, is you need to see and experience these for yourself and then determine if it's for you and is worth the asking prices. Just keep in mind, a girl or a place will not ask for 3,000 baht or more, unless they can.

When you say the escort route seems preferable to you, are you talking from actual experience IN BKK? Other places don't count, since it's really not the same situation. Have you actually been to a Soapy or to a Go-Go or to a Gentlemen's club like the Pent? Just asking, since I don't know where you are coming from.

For me, I like them all, and for different reasons. They all have pros and cons and it's like having Seafood one night, Steak another and Pasta on another. I have had great meals for $5 and $100, and don't regret any of them or what I paid for them.

AT2

Old Thai Hand
02-06-08, 09:04
Hey OTH,

Go to Vegas or Atlantic City during summer breaks and you can get quite a few Uni girls. No kidding.

And you must be a handsome man looking like Bloom.

I am in BKK and staying at LL. Why don't you come on down this evening and I will buy the drinks.

Duni

I agree with you. I wasn't really thinking about Spring Break, but some guy hanging around a university town trying to pick up students. In any event, one would have to be young and handsome anywhere to score with most uni students. The luck I've had, such as it is has largely been because I occasionally find that one atypical student who I've gotten close to and over a long time have eventually gotten involved with, somehow. It's not something one can do quickly. I'm around hundreds of uni girls every day and particularly now, it would be unlikely that I could score with any of them unless I put in a lot of effort, which I'm not really into doing anymore. What would be the point? It's not worth the effort or the residual effects. I used to do it because it was fun, the girls were generally much hotter than the average TG (or is it simply the uniform?), I had the time to do it and I liked the success, when it came. But, now, I don't care. I've got a GF and a Gig, both of whom are currently students. I have nothing to prove to myself, anymore.

There are plenty of TGs around - office girls, shopgirls, waitresses - who while not in the same league, status-wise as students are still often hot looking and may be far more accessible to the average Farang.

FreebieFan
02-06-08, 09:41
Well I'm normally more active in some other Asian country forums but had to post here after my recent activities.

As my name suggests, I inhabit the free world as opposed to the P4P world. Been to Bangkok many many many times and in every bar I've been able to find, and soapies too. I just prefer the notion of the chase and pretending that what I've found is possibly free.

Normal MO is to hunt them down on internet. And thanks to a new site, found a few. Or maybe they found me. I'm 50 but look ok. Thankfully.

Anyways. Did the chat. Sms. Even mms. Webcam thing and narrowed it down to a few.

There was a 38 yr old who was divorced a few years back. And has decided she needs to fly a bit before shes 40. States hed never had a farang.

There was a cute cute 23 year old. But wasnt sure she would show.

There was a very cute (webcam! ) 35 year old who was taking a bus trip to meet me and spend a day with me.

And another 23 year old who had no pics. (always a warning sign to me.) who was allocated a short time slot.

So heres what happened.

Arrived. Checked in. Got a suite in hotel near Ploenchit BTS. Best location for me. Quiet but close to activities.

Met the first one. In afternoon. Chatty friendly smart lady. Straight to hotel. Chat chat. Drink a bit. She wanted to offer me a massage. So starts with my clothes on. Then slowly they come off. Eventually kiss and head to bedroom. One hour of good sex. Shower. And she understands its time to go.

The 23 year old was supposed to be arriving about 30 minutes after lI had left first one. But she told me shes still at home. Bad start. Sms and calls over next hour and I'm not sure shes on her way. Tells me she is. But over an hour late. Well I went to Beer Garden thinking about Plan be just in case. Anyways she arrives at Ploenchit BTS. Kiss on mouth to greet me. Shes bright and funny and a real nice girl. We go to Suan Lum for drinks and food and get to know you. Taxi to hotel. Up to room. She rejects my first move on her. To go sit on another sofa. But manages to place her breasts in a low t shirt inches from me. No more rejection. , she told me shed done ti so she could tell herself she said no. We end up having sex for about 2 hours till 2 am. Wake up and 5. 30 am. And another hour of hot activity.

She everntually leaves to go to work and I get some much needed sleep. So first day was a double. Good start.

Well I had no major plans for day 2 but decide to go to an oil massage thats near my hotel. Cute masseuse. Ms Miou always happy to see me. Always lets me kiss her finger her and sometimes more. And more. Normal massage from her with great oily ball massage. Eventually kiss kiss. Bra off. And shes laying on the bed saying "No sek. No sek ok sek "funny moment. Lovely sweet lady. She gets her Bt 600 tip. Used to be 800 but dollars sinking.

And then. Shower and off to meet the 23 year old who hadnt sent pics. If she was ugly would blow her off. And having just come again. Wasnt feeling horny anyways. Met at Ploenchit. (repeating theme here) and she was cute. Not a classic beauty and not 40 kg but maybe 50. And a happy kid. We had coffee and get to know and as it was raining I said lets go watch tv in my room. She was ok with that. Sat. And of course got closer closer. Had a 15 minute kiss. But I wasnt feeling soo horny. So we stopped. Then again. Finally she asks. You want sek. I said lets wait.

Lets wait. Yeah. I knew I was seeing the other 23 year old in about 2 hours. And knew she would want sex on arrival. Hmm like I say I'm over 50 and my dick isn't always responsive to mutiple demands for instant erection.

Anyways one kiss led to another and another and eventually to the bed we go. She was shy in kissing lips. But not shy about kissing my dick. She was cute. After sex she showered got dressed and seemed to know there was only one round on offer. She left. And neither the 38 yr old nor the 23 year old had asked for anything. And both followed with sms after they had left asking for a repeat.

And I headed to Ploenchit for last nights gurl. She wanted to go to hotel but instead we went to Patpong market then to Central Dept store. She then tells me that shes taken the folowing day off so she can stay with me all day. Damn. I was supposed to see the 35 year old who took a bus trip to see me. But I figured this one was extra cute. She kept grabbing my dick in the taxi etc. So the 35 year old, well I guess she would be dissapointed but what to do.

She wanted a bikini (yeah I know. Nothing is really free). So there she is selecting a bikini. And wants to try it on. She asked the sales assistant if I can go with her. She says yes. So she strips down. Naked. Gives me a three minute blow. In a changing room. So interesting.

After that. This gurl wants to try some cocktails. Doesnt normally drink. So she had a few. In a few Patpong bars. Then we head to soi 7. Was goin to show her Biergarden. But we end up on Absolute bar. A few more cocktails and shes dread drunk. I wasnt unhappy. I wasnt sure my dick would respond anyways. Get home. And gurl is out of it. Drops her clothes on floor. Gets into bed. Up a few times to throw up. Lovely.

In the morning tho she makes up for it with a 15 minute blow before Id even said good morning. We then went to the pool with the new bikini, paragon store, and eventually headed to Soi Cowboy. She seemed to like watching the gurls. Onto Nana and eventually home. By this time shes happy but not drunk. Id bought her one of these super tacky nighties in Sukhimvit. Sheer, tiniest g string panties. And very sexy. She looked great. She opened all the curtains so anyone could see us. And we went to town. Last I remember she was perched on a chair with ass in air. Waiting for mine. She let me video her entirely. And was so happy just walking round naked. And had a good hot figure too. I got extra lucky.

In the morning said our tearful goodbyes and I left Thailand.

So. Id had 4 in space of 28 hours of arrival. One was paid for. The other 3 were free. Sort of. Tough schedule and probaby not enought free time for work, but if its a choice between work or pussy. Well we all know that one.

Great time. And can't wait to get back. Again.

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M P Lurker
02-06-08, 10:38
PinkPearl,

Everyone has different views of what constitutes a stunner. Been to BKK often enough over 20 years, to know what's on the streets in BKK. That's just my opinion and I'm sorry if my personal view offends you. <cut>

Is the pic below, the Dada you speak of? If you can get girls like her for 1,000 baht or less in BKK now, you are a better man than I. I have never seen it done in my presence. Sorry, I'm a show me kind of guy, so stories don't count for me. If you have done it, what I think should not matter to you.

If the 2nd pic is the Nampeung you are talking about, then no, I do not consider her a stunner. Attractive, but not stunning, and you can find as good or possibly better in any of the Major Soapy's, Nana or Soi Cowboy and definitely at the Pent. Of course, it could be a bad pic and the Dada pic could be a great pic. But just based on the pics alone and not having seen them in person, I would give Dada a 9 and Nampeung a 7. I see a large gap in looks between the two.

But really, in the end, I was just answering Borat's question based on his comments and my personal view. Just 1 opinion out of a billion. Only trying to help the guy.

AT2
I'm shocked. I have the same preference.
I would give Dada 9 (although pic is a bit small) and NamPheung 7 also.
I agree also that there definitely aren't any 1K girls of Dada quality in my experience.

I thought Asian guys and Farangs went for something completely different.

PinkPearl
02-06-08, 10:56
PinkPearl,

Everyone has different views of what constitutes a stunner. Been to BKK often enough over 20 years, to know what's on the streets in BKK. That's just my opinion and I'm sorry if my personal view offends you. Please read Borat's posts, to which I was answering. He visited Soi Cowboy and Nana and nothing piqued his interest. Read between the lines and ask yourself if he is going to find what he is looking for in the 1, 000 baht range. I can find girls I like at Nana and Soi Cowboy. They do not need to be stunners, for me to have fun or to get my attention. Attractive will do. No offense at all, just wondering. I'd agree that there are different views of who is a stunning lady. And depending on how much of the male drug I have in my system, any female might look like either an angel or a dog. Apparently alcohol and other drugs can have a similar effect. As for Borat's inability to find a lady at NEP or Cowboy, I don't know what to say. Maybe try Moscow? Or Kazakhstan?


I'm sorry, but the girl who is willing to settle for 1, 000 baht is either very very very new or not in high demand. Well I know a hot lady who goes for that price per hour and provides good service and attitude. She is hard to get a hold of by cell. I'd assume by her looks that she'd get picked up off the street very quickly, and when I'm out cruising on foot she is seldom to be seen. Apparently she's been selling her pussy in BKK for several years. Out of 35-45 P4P ladies I've sampled in BKK she is probably the best value as well as being number one overall. Maybe she's one in a million. But I believe there are others I've met who, though not up to her level, still meet your criteria {of 1000 Baht, not very new, in high demand}.


There are 10's of thousands of girls you can find for 1, 000 baht or less even now. I have seen enough of them and very few pique my interest. There's always exceptions, but I would not call anyone of them stunning. Just one guys point of view. I'm sure you have your reasons for feeling otherwise. I'd have to say that most TGs asking 1000 Baht do not particularly turn me on either.


Is the pic below, the Dada you speak of? If you can get girls like her for 1, 000 baht or less in BKK now, you are a better man than I. I have never seen it done in my presence. Sorry, I'm a show me kind of guy, so stories don't count for me. If you have done it, what I think should not matter to you. I don't think that is the Dada of the TG 2007 Maxim DVD. She has red hair and a different looking face. But I am confident 1000 Baht ladies of her calibre are available all over the streets of BKK, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Afterall we are apparently both familiar with what's on the streets of BKK, you having visited "often enough over 20 years", and I having lived across the street from NEP for 7 of the past 8 months with nothing to do but shag girls 24/7.


If the 2nd pic is the Nampeung you are talking about, then no, I do not consider her a stunner. Attractive, but not stunning, and you can find as good or possibly better in any of the Major Soapy's, Nana or Soi Cowboy and definitely at the Pent. Of course, it could be a bad pic and the Dada pic could be a great pic. But just based on the pics alone and not having seen them in person, I would give Dada a 9 and Nampeung a 7. I see a large gap in looks between the two. I think that is her, though her face looks much better on the DVD cover. Re your pics I'd give your Dada a 7, perhaps, because she has a face that I find quite attracive, and Nampeung a 6.5 for a smoking body. Though on the DVD jacket the latter gets at least a 7.5.


But really, in the end, I was just answering Borat's question based on his comments and my personal view. Just 1 opinion out of a billion. Only trying to help the guy. Hopefully this discussion will help someone too. Thanks for the reply.

Thaid Up
02-06-08, 12:48
richo they can be had very easy. now oth is right about the places on rachada, but it is very hard for anybody to pickup girls there. thai’s usually travel in packs and infiltrating these packs is quite difficult even for thai’s.

the wolves need to get the lambs away from the packs. the source is the mp’s lined up on rachada. most of the sideliners there are attending universities. the job and the schedule are well suited to the uni girl plus she does not have to drink. they usually start about 7:30pm and it is 3 pops and they are out usually by 11:00 or 12:00 pm. so they can still go to bed and get up for school.

i doubt if there are any bar girls who can maintain their work and drinking schedule and go to a legit university.

now why would uni girls work as sideliners in mp’s? well many have the reason of peer pressure. there are a number of very rich hi-so girls attending university. while middle-class mom and pop may afford the tuition for their daughters to attend university, they cannot give her a budget to show-off the nice shoes and handbags to be part of the in-crowd. so you have the true fashion *****s. this concept is popular with japanese girls in japan as well.

these girls are a completely different breed than the normal bg’s in nep, soi cowboy, soi33. most the most part they are not looking for a relationship or way out of their life as most of them have a regular thai boyfriend back in the uni. usually someone acceptable to mom and pop meanwhile the boyfriend has a case of blue balls why she plays the façade of “good girl” meanwhile back in the mp she is bang the hell out of customers for some shopping money. so she is not making a living out of p4p, but get her shopping money there.

if you are looking for a relationship with a uni girl…

1. you need to live here.
2. you need to spend the time.

it is sort of like the episode on seinfeld where george gets into the secret model club. once you get one uni girl and word gets around that you are an ok farang you will be will have access to a lot more. the uni girls are quite competitive and love to fuck their friend’s boyfriends.

Bounce Around
02-06-08, 14:35
(sorry for the repost from other thread)

Hello All, I shall be in BKK from 19th to 22nd; then to good 'ol China and the mongering scene there. I'm looking forward to this trip, heard a lot, and am starting my RTFF now. Don't know where I'll be staying yet, but will post

I realize the mongering scenes are different, but anyone who has experience with Shenzhen/CP etc scene and also BKK scene can you give me a comparison? My feelings are mongering is more out in the open in BKK, and price is about the same. In SZ one can get LT for +/-500RMB which is about 2100THB

One thing I am looking forward to is the sauna scene, I figure this is better here and consequently pricey, the most expensive sauna I have been to in China is 600-700RMB; and expensive room service in China for about 1100RMB which would be 4800THB

So, I guess I could go for at least one 'A lister at a soapy. Would it be worth it?

I really am looking forward to the change in ethinicity though; Looking forward to getting out some frustrations from way back in college, where I was friends with this 'good' thai girl. She was the tightest, smallest, hottest asian I have ever seen.

Borat69
02-06-08, 18:46
AT2 - just a quick thanks for your super informative posts. I've now left BKK after an interesting newbie week. Here's the report from the last couple of days:

The clubs I was referring to at Patpong were the Kings 1-3 and King's Castle clubs. However there seem to be a few ladyboys in Kings 3. The rest there were definitely more jgirl types, and I still regret not pushing for the half mixed thai/french girl I saw a while back (when I initally posted here0. She was really a stunner but had a bit of attitude - wanted to hit a room within 2 minutes after I bought a drink and when I said I'd like to get to know her more she just walked off.. lol. Her loss I guess and don't think it would have panned out well with that bitchy attitude!

The penultimate of our adventures yesterday accumulated in a somewhat interesting taxi ride, all around town. The taxi driver was prob trying to mak a comission but we've smartened up and kind of had destinations in mind (thanks to you and Mick's guides here).

Saw Soi 33 which I agree, did have better lookers, compared to Soi 22 and elsewhere anyway. We didn't stay though, based on the cost advice here, and another trip to Cupidy, the girls this time seemed very average. Apparently on level 2 you can get some VIP girls if you have money to blow, but I think one is looking at 5000b upwards,but apparently they are true stunners. However I just wasn't intending to pay that much anyway. Some day :)

In the end, we ended up back at Nana. Most girls were pretty average in the bars, but we saw a couple of pretty nice looking girls standing at the entrance. But a couple were ladyboys! It's scary how they could look so good, until you talk to them and they answer in a fake woman voice. Man, that's scary stuff. Anyway in the end we ended up with a white skinned Thai for 1800b, which my mate and I both negotiated down to 1500. I opted for 2 pops for 2500. First pop was pretty amazing, in the sack she was pretty hot, but a bit fake. But then strange thoughts (questioning whether this is really a woman!) popped into my head in the 2nd round and I just lost it... in the end I felt I overpaid, after she asked for a tip of 500.

And yes, I started having doubts as to whether she was truly a lady. God, this is the problem I have with Thailand. Most of the tall skinny pretty pale girls seem to end up as pre-op ladyboys, but this one had no adam's apple (no visible surgical scar either), and had a pussy that didn't particularly look fake. And I've had a couple of stunning girls, one at Soi Cowboy, and this one at Nana, they all had tits and pussy but could they be post op??? She was pretty tall, long fingers, and slightly broad...and she was just so nice and accomodating, it really makes me wonder if a girl this stunning really is not a post surgical specimen! She denied it when we intiially ask, and our friends told us that they aren't there to trick us... but she was standing at the entrance to Nana where there were certainly a few ladyboys (but blatant ones - deep voice, probably pre-op).

Anyway I shall not dwell on this. In the end we did say there's a small chance but it's small. It certainly fucked with our heads! And on the next trip (given that I didn't catch any STDS on this trip!) I may just head straight for Phuket and Pattaya.

1Ball
02-06-08, 20:01
Good story, Borat , thanks.

I wouldn't dwell on the LB thoughts anymore. It is behind you, (no pun intended). There are some tall TGs in Cowboy, and they are 100% woman.
Nice to see you had a good time, and figured out the cabbie scams early.

Gagoo
02-07-08, 02:31
I have been to Bangkok at least 6 times now and I never heard of the Khao San area ( I guess I can't keep out of the Nana area). It seems like there would be some sort of action there, but I don't see anything mentioned.

Are there any girls for hire in the Khao San Road area?
Any good clubs to try and pick-up freebies from Thai or Farang ladies?
What is a girl friendly hotel there?

Thanks

Jacoharts
02-07-08, 02:50
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Well I'm normally more active in some other Asian country forums but had to post here after my recent activities.

As my name suggests, I inhabit the free world as opposed to the P4P world. Been to Bangkok many many many times and in every bar I've been able to find, and soapies too. I just prefer the notion of the chase and pretending that what I've found is possibly free.

Normal MO is to hunt them down on internet. And thanks to a new site, found a few. Or maybe they found me. I'm 50 but look ok. Thankfully.

Anyways. Did the chat. Sms. Even mms. Webcam thing and narrowed it down to a few.

There was a 38 yr old who was divorced a few years back. And has decided she needs to fly a bit before shes 40. States hed never had a farang.

There was a cute cute 23 year old. But wasnt sure she would show.

There was a very cute (webcam! ) 35 year old who was taking a bus trip to meet me and spend a day with me.

And another 23 year old who had no pics. (always a warning sign to me.) who was allocated a short time slot.

Please provide iaddress of web site

Thanks

jac

Fast Eddie 48
02-07-08, 04:15
I have been to Bangkok at least 6 times now and I never heard of the Khao San area ( I guess I can't keep out of the Nana area). It seems like there would be some sort of action there, but I don't see anything mentioned.

Are there any girls for hire in the Khao San Road area?

Any good clubs to try and pick-up freebies from Thai or Farang ladies?

What is a girl friendly hotel there?

ThanksGagoo,

I been to Bangkok over 15 time and never been to Khao san rd what I heard it is just a back packer area with many cheap ass motel and bar, I don't think you and myself have miss anything for never been there.

Fast eddie 48

Easy2007
02-07-08, 04:40
I always find this question amusing. One likely couldn't pick up "genuine" uni girls in the States that easily. So, why would anyone think they could here?

One does occasionally sees a few Farang lurking around university campuses here and I've actually been approached a couple of times by them asking "how to talk to the girls" - I suppose they assume I'm one of them. This type of thing seems to be increasing lately. But, I wouldn't recommend it. Apart from the fact that campus security would probably go after you, it would be a pointless excercise at most unis. One of the few universities where students might be game, if you approached them is Ramkhamhaeng. But, you'd have to speak Thai and you'd have to NOT look like the typical geezer one sees trolling aroung the Nana area. Still, the more likely reaction would be nervous giggles followed by a hasty retreat. Average Thai girls are generally scared of Farang.

There are no webboards for students, unless you can write in Thai and even if you could, as a Farang, you'd be shut out quite quickly. It's very difficult to pick up a uni girl, at the best of times, especially if you are visiting, unless you are quite young and good looking. The best place to meet quality uni girls is in the Thai clubs around Ratchada soi 4-8 and the clubs in the Thonglor/Ekamai area. RCA might have some. But, it tends to only attract teenagers these days.

There are also lots of students of every description hanging around Siam Square. But, again I wouldn't recommend approaching them as they'd likely rebuff you and run away.

Unless you look like Orlando Bloom or Leonardo di Caprio, I'd say your chances are nil.What nonsense you write OTH.

As Thailand has progressed to become a "want want want" society, there has been a large turn of uni girls now looking for casual sex for fun and casual sex for money. I have had plenty, but in all honesty, the P4P girls are better as they give what you want with their experience. The Uni girls can, in the most and not always, be a little bit boring sexually if you are used to P4p.

Plenty of girls from middle class families like to do a turn for some extra cash, its not cheap mind you, you'll be paying 4000 plus (as they are not poor, but they like the extra money, so there is no discounting initially, although you'll get the freebies thrown in later if you keep on meeting them, "gig" kind of relationship.

Where to find them, the original BangkokChat.com was excellent for that, and I have loads of uni girls from there. Sadly, BangkokChat got made "sensible" and so its crap now. There used to be a thriving community on chat servers, but again, this has since downhill in recent years, I have not checked for some time now.

RCA is one place to find them in their civies. Another avenue to pursue is the naughty girls (the ones skipping school) and you'll often find them in the restaurants of MBK and Siam Square during school time, just pick a table opposite them, get some eye contact going, and you'll soon know if they are interested or not, and yes, I have been flashed with a few nice little pussy shots when they tease you by opening the legs a bit and letting you take a peak up that miniskirt. Do not make lurid suggestions or give lurid looks, until you have established they are interersted or not, they could be just a normal student in between lessons.

So its all there to be had, its just more time consuming than most people can be bothered to put into it, and so most people give up.

One downside of Uni girls I find is that they are not as clean in the pussy area as P4P girls. You will rarely find a P4P girl with a smelly pussy, or with dirty undies (as in some discharge). I have found a great number of Uni girls with a slight odour, and yes the old dirty panties syndrome. Now if you like that well all well and good, if not then it can be a little off putting if you are used to the "clean" look of P4P girls. You'll also notice that lots of the Uni girls will not insist on a condom, and will also not bother to wash their pussy if you just emptied you load in there. P4P girls will, in general, always wash whether condom or not.

Anyway, for those searching, good luck.

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Easy2007
02-07-08, 04:45
More tosh OTH.

Do you mean as air travel becomes cheaper and cheaper, we will get more half baked tossers like yourself coming here and being teachers cause that is all they are fit for, cannot get a job in their own country, so come to Thailand and be a teacher, like most of the other backpacker tossers in Khao San who forget to go home.

Air travel is allowing the tosspots of the world to travel, not "its becoming more global".

Thailand 20 years ago was great, and that was when you were not here.

With regards to your suggestion that most of the luk-kreungs now are products of mis-aligned matches. Do you have some date to back this up ? Some facts ? Some figures ?

OR is this just again the OTH "Opinion" portrayed as "truth", where he will back down only later, when questioned, to say its his personal opinion.....

Got any facts to back up the statement ? Or is it just an opinon, where you forget to say its your opinon?

LOL


A little out of date PP. Any Luk-kreung who had a daddy in the military in Udon would be well on in her 30s at least, by now.

Most young luk-kreung one sees around these days are the products of mis-alliances between love-struck sex tourists and their rent-a-skank/wife.

As Thailand becomes (very, very slowly) more global and more accepting of outsiders, you'll see in about 20 years or so lots of luk-kreung from more normal Farang-Thai relationships.

M P Lurker
02-07-08, 05:15
I have been to Bangkok at least 6 times now and I never heard of the Khao San area ( I guess I can't keep out of the Nana area). It seems like there would be some sort of action there, but I don't see anything mentioned.

Are there any girls for hire in the Khao San Road area?
Any good clubs to try and pick-up freebies from Thai or Farang ladies?
What is a girl friendly hotel there?

Thanks
From Nana, head west along Sukhumvit Road. After a while it becomes Ploenchit Road, then becomes Rama 1, then becomes Bamrung Mueang (Muang) Road after crossing a Khlong (Canal), after crossing the 2nd canal, 3rd main road on the right is Tanao road. turn into Tanao and head north about 700 m to major road Ratchadamnoen Klang. Cross it and a further 100m on left is Khao San road. There are many cheap Hotels here for Backpackers, hippies etc. The area is known as Banglamphoo.
Khao San (I think means "rice husks") Road is about 6km west of Nana Plaza and close to the Chaopraya river. It takes a long time to get there by taxi when the traffic is bad (and thats nearly all the time).

Don't know if much P4P action around. Certainly not much gogo bars. But Opebo looks for cheap girls on Sanam Luang (the royal field) park.
There are some Soapies accross the river.

If it was me, I would never dream of going to Banglamphoo for action, unless I was a spunky man and hoping to pick up some Farang girls.

NicFrenchy
02-07-08, 05:25
I have been to Bangkok at least 6 times now and I never heard of the Khao San area ( I guess I can't keep out of the Nana area). It seems like there would be some sort of action there, but I don't see anything mentioned.

Are there any girls for hire in the Khao San Road area?

Any good clubs to try and pick-up freebies from Thai or Farang ladies?

What is a girl friendly hotel there?

ThanksDo yourself a favor and stay away from Khao San Road. Khao san is like the scum of Bangkok. Opebo probably lives around there.

Member #3428
02-07-08, 05:27
I have been to Bangkok at least 6 times now and I never heard of the Khao San area ( I guess I can't keep out of the Nana area).

Went there last month as the girl I was with heard about it and wanted to go. It is a street full of the same products you see near nana, tattoo shops, many little cafe's or such, some hotels on the street, fake ID's and such all over the place, and full of backpackers, mostly college aged or such. Not one of them did anything for me, of course I like asians. It's more of foreign college type hang out.

SidTheSexist
02-07-08, 07:06
There is a Gullivers at KS road and as far as I remember from almost 2 years ago, a handful of freelancers hanging out. In fact, if I really think back, Meaty and I had quite a funny story come out of there, the one time we did visit. It basically came to an end due to the lack of ST hotels available.

Sid

Gagoo
02-07-08, 07:37
There is a Gullivers at KS road and as far as I remember from almost 2 years ago, a handful of freelancers hanging out. In fact, if I really think back, Meaty and I had quite a funny story come out of there, the one time we did visit. It basically came to an end due to the lack of ST hotels available.

Sid


I guess it wouldn't hurt to take a look, or go on a night when I need a break.
I would get a room there, so I guess it would be a little far to bring a girl back to my room if I did find a girl.

Old Thai Hand
02-07-08, 09:02
[quote=easy2007]what nonsense you write oth.

as thailand has progressed to become a "want want want" society, there has been a large turn of uni girls now looking for casual sex for fun and casual sex for money. i have had plenty, but in all honesty, the p4p girls are better as they give what you want with their experience. the uni girls can, in the most and not always, be a little bit boring sexually if you are used to p4p.

plenty of girls from middle class families like to do a turn for some extra cash, its not cheap mind you, you'll be paying 4000 plus (as they are not poor, but they like the extra money, so there is no discounting initially, although you'll get the freebies thrown in later if you keep on meeting them, "gig" kind of relationship.

where to find them, the original bangkokchat.com was excellent for that, and i have loads of uni girls from there. sadly, bangkokchat got made "sensible" and so its crap now. there used to be a thriving community on chat servers, but again, this has since downhill in recent years, i have not checked for some time now.

rca is one place to find them in their civies. another avenue to pursue is the naughty girls (the ones skipping school) and you'll often find them in the restaurants of mbk and siam square during school time, just pick a table opposite them, get some eye contact going, and you'll soon know if they are interested or not, and yes, i have been flashed with a few nice little pussy shots when they tease you by opening the legs a bit and letting you take a peak up that miniskirt. do not make lurid suggestions or give lurid looks, until you have established they are interersted or not, they could be just a normal student in between lessons.

so its all there to be had, its just more time consuming than most people can be bothered to put into it, and so most people give up.

one downside of uni girls i find is that they are not as clean in the pussy area as p4p girls. you will rarely find a p4p girl with a smelly pussy, or with dirty undies (as in some discharge). i have found a great number of uni girls with a slight odour, and yes the old dirty panties syndrome. now if you like that well all well and good, if not then it can be a little off putting if you are used to the "clean" look of p4p girls. you'll also notice that lots of the uni girls will not insist on a condom, and will also not bother to wash their pussy if you just emptied you load in there. p4p girls will, in general, always wash whether condom or not.

anyway, for those searching, good luck.[quote]


absolute bullshit!!!! what crap you write, for gawd's sake. what the fuck does a farmboy from isaan know about bkk university girls? you've had "plenty". really? my, my, you must be a very 'hansum' man. i am around hundreds every day and even i haven't had "plenty". you must truly be an adonis, loaded to the tits with charm, money and connections.

btw, rca is full of **** teenagers with fake ids. is that your thing? because, you won't find too many uni girls there, anymore.

i especially like your idea of some farang sitting down opposite a group of students at mbk and siam square, (most of whom are likely from nearby chula on their lunch break). he wouldn't be given the time of day. these students aren't interested and certainly don't need your money. your average chula student could buy you ten times over with pocket change. they are from the families you love to hate - the dreaded military/power elite.


anyway, for those really interested in the truth about what universities have the most available girls, here goes:

1/ ramkhamhaeng u.
2/ u. of the thai chamber of commerce
3/ siam u.
4/ rajabhat u. suan dusit

if there are any uni girls available in soapies, or as escorts or freelancers, most would probably come from these or similar low level universities.

remember...there are university girls...and then there are university girls!

but, i reiterate, despite easy's assertion that you can scoop up plenty o' uni girls at mbk and the like, that it is extremely difficult to score with regular uni girls, without putting in a major effort. it is all about status here. unless you can specifically provide some status to the girl (outside a p4p scenario) she isn't likely to go with you, despite what some say here.

the post that started this discussion specifically concerned university girls who didn't work in p4p. that's what i addressed before and what i am addressing now.

Richo Stevens
02-07-08, 09:25
was offered a job at The Nation for a year, and decided to stay. That was 11 years ago.Okidok, I'll check with my friend there tomorrow too see who they employed 11 years ago.


And...I know more about Thai university students and their accessibility than you'll ever know, which is why I am positive that what you have written is unmitigated nonsense and lies.Well, well. Thanks for your reply to me, but no need to bash each other - we have a common goal here, just different paths to go.

Easy2007
02-07-08, 09:55
oth, 55555555 struck a raw nerve did we? was it the teacher/khao san thing?

i am not a farmboy from isaan, at all. i have merely in the past told you what a pompuus arrogant ignorant twat you are for looking down on isaan people. there can only be one reason for this, and that is either your jealousy of them, or you got done over by someone (a girl perhaps) from isaan some time ago.

if you have not been with any uni girls, you must be one ugly muther. they are pretty damn easy pray for a farang with money to burn who does not look like the hunchback. perhaps the fact your working for thai companies on thai salaries means they have little interest in such a "poor" farang.

you know the girls like money, and someone working for a thai company is not going to be very rich are they. lol

so at the end of the day, i have had plenty and you have had none.

quite simply says i know what i am talking about, and how to walk the walk here in thailand, cause i am an old thai hand, and you my dear friend are either a complete fake living in the us, a hunchback living in fantasy internet land, or some other kind of complete loser.

so sad, you claim to be so clever, yet you have not even worked out how to pull uni girls, and you are surrounded by them every day so you claim. now that is dumb.


[quote=easy2007]what nonsense you write oth.

as thailand has progressed to become a "want want want" society, there has been a large turn of uni girls now looking for casual sex for fun and casual sex for money. i have had plenty, but in all honesty, the p4p girls are better as they give what you want with their experience. the uni girls can, in the most and not always, be a little bit boring sexually if you are used to p4p.

plenty of girls from middle class families like to do a turn for some extra cash, its not cheap mind you, you'll be paying 4000 plus (as they are not poor, but they like the extra money, so there is no discounting initially, although you'll get the freebies thrown in later if you keep on meeting them, "gig" kind of relationship.

where to find them, the original bangkokchat.com was excellent for that, and i have loads of uni girls from there. sadly, bangkokchat got made "sensible" and so its crap now. there used to be a thriving community on chat servers, but again, this has since downhill in recent years, i have not checked for some time now.

rca is one place to find them in their civies. another avenue to pursue is the naughty girls (the ones skipping school) and you'll often find them in the restaurants of mbk and siam square during school time, just pick a table opposite them, get some eye contact going, and you'll soon know if they are interested or not, and yes, i have been flashed with a few nice little pussy shots when they tease you by opening the legs a bit and letting you take a peak up that miniskirt. do not make lurid suggestions or give lurid looks, until you have established they are interersted or not, they could be just a normal student in between lessons.

so its all there to be had, its just more time consuming than most people can be bothered to put into it, and so most people give up.

one downside of uni girls i find is that they are not as clean in the pussy area as p4p girls. you will rarely find a p4p girl with a smelly pussy, or with dirty undies (as in some discharge). i have found a great number of uni girls with a slight odour, and yes the old dirty panties syndrome. now if you like that well all well and good, if not then it can be a little off putting if you are used to the "clean" look of p4p girls. you'll also notice that lots of the uni girls will not insist on a condom, and will also not bother to wash their pussy if you just emptied you load in there. p4p girls will, in general, always wash whether condom or not.

anyway, for those searching, good luck.[quote]


absolute bullshit!!!! what crap you write, for gawd's sake. what the fuck does a farmboy from isaan know about bkk university girls? you've had "plenty". really? my, my, you must be a very 'hansum' man. i have access to hundreds every day and even i haven't had "plenty". you must truly be an adonis, loaded to the tits with charm, money and connections.

btw, rca is full of **** teenagers with fake ids. is that your thing? you won't find too many uni girls there, anymore.

i especially like your idea of some farang sitting down opposite a group of students at mbk and siam square, (most of whom are likely from nearby chula on their lunch break). he wouldn't be given the time of day. these students aren't interested and certainly don't need your money. your average chula student could buy you ten times over with pocket change.


with regards to your comments about me coming here to be a teacher because i couldn't get a job in my home country...is that an assumption, or accusation? i'm not sure. lol :d

well, not that it matters, or anyone is really interested, but to set the record straight: i was actually a professor in my home country, who came here on sabbatical, was offered a job at the nation for a year, and decided to stay. that was 11 years ago. i have been offered jobs back home and sometimes (like now) consider returning. but, i like it here. so, i choose to stay. i am not some khao san road backpacker english teacher, but a senior lecturer in a respected field at a top university.

and...i know more about thai university students and their accessibility than you'll ever know, which is why i am positive that what you have written is unmitigated nonsense and lies.

we should, as sid suggested in the politics forum take this to the fight club. nobody wants to read the senile ramblings of some blithering idiot who's been here since rama v was a pup, or the endless waffling of some pompous university prof (at least i admit my failings :) ).

NicFrenchy
02-07-08, 10:14
absolute bullshit!!!! what crap you write, for gawd's sake. what the fuck does a farmboy from isaan know about bkk university girls? you've had "plenty". really? my, my, you must be a very 'hansum' man. i have access to hundreds every day and even i haven't had "plenty". you must truly be an adonis, loaded to the tits with charm, money and connections.

btw, rca is full of **** teenagers with fake ids. is that your thing? you won't find too many uni girls there, anymore.well, i have had a few girls from mbk myself but the word student was never mentionned, i think i got on with honest working ladies.

also, i would like to bring up the fact that a few freelancers purposefully dress with students uniform to attract farangs. they know a lot of men out there like the idea, so they increase their chances. fishing for customers is difficult so they need the best possible bait.

Giotto
02-07-08, 10:30
[QUOTE=Easy2007]...
For those really interested in the truth about what universities have the most available girls, here goes:
...
LOL,

For all those who are interested in girls with an university degree - some of the girls in Livingstone's Sports Lounge have one. They then started to work in offices, and after a time the returned to the naughty night-life scene, for various reasons.

We sometimes try to offer them office jobs, front desk job etc. . They look at us, smile - and shake their heads :).


Giotto

M P Lurker
02-07-08, 10:34
There is a Gullivers at KS road and as far as I remember from almost 2 years ago, a handful of freelancers hanging out. In fact, if I really think back, Meaty and I had quite a funny story come out of there, the one time we did visit. It basically came to an end due to the lack of ST hotels available.

Sid
Well there are short time Hotels if you know where.
Maybe not in Khao San road but not too far away.
The demand by Thais for ST Hotels is high.

I remember some friends of mine (not into P4P) stayed at a ST Hotel at the back of the Rattanakosin (Royal Hotel) (before the previous coup when all those people got stomped on the Hotel lobby or something like that).

M P Lurker
02-07-08, 10:44
One downside of Uni girls I find is that they are not as clean in the pussy area as P4P girls. You will rarely find a P4P girl with a smelly pussy, or with dirty undies (as in some discharge). I have found a great number of Uni girls with a slight odour, and yes the old dirty panties syndrome. Now if you like that well all well and good, if not then it can be a little off putting if you are used to the "clean" look of P4P girls. You'll also notice that lots of the Uni girls will not insist on a condom, and will also not bother to wash their pussy if you just emptied you load in there. P4P girls will, in general, always wash whether condom or not.

Its very difficult to believe that Real Thai Uni girls, in general, don't clean their pussies.
If they were Chinese (maybe Chinese-Thai), I could believe it a little more.

My non-P4P Thai girlfriends have both been absolutely fastidious and were not even educated to Uni level.

Panty stains is a different thing altogether and not terribly unusual after a long day.
P4P bar girls probably haven't had their panties on long enough to get stained greatly. Mostly wearing bar outfits or nothing much.

Thais seem more cleanliness conscious than westerners and are unsurpassed by any other Nationality in my experience.

Smelly pussies can be a sign of the clap. :D

NicFrenchy
02-07-08, 10:45
Suckered for a suck

I was planning on going to SOL for a nice (or 2) BJ, walking towards heaven when all of a sudden a girl came running down from the Stairs and grabbed my arm. She smiled at me and started her Sales Pitch “You want Blowjob Hansum? Me the best, me Superstar, best Blowjob here, take long time very good, only 700 thb”, she wasn’t so bad looking so I asked her where she was coming From, she pointed in the Direction of Linda/Kob Bar (Another BJ Bar) and having heard of it but never actually experienced it, I decided to try it out. I know what most of you are thinking, why settle for a food Stall when a great restaurant stands right on the corner? Well, I am curious and like to research.

As we go inside the Bar, all the other girls are sleeping on the couches and barely acknowledge that a customer walked in. The Girl leads me to a dingy side room with a crappy bed and no lights (can’t see a thing in there).

She got totally naked and so did I, she went right away for the suck and pumped ferociously until I pulled out. I needed to get a little more comfortable on the bed as this looked as it was going to take a while. She wasted no time and asked me if I wanted “Make Love”? but I refused. This place obviously looks like it has no shower and the girl most probably wasn’t the Cleanest. I was really beginning to regret having been suckered into Kob’s bar, the seediness of the place and the reminder that the girl might be a little dirty was enough to put me off. I got up and told the girl I couldn’t finish and she looked surprised but said nothing. I left the place quickly, giving her a 200thb tip which I know is too much but she tried her best and I am sure she does not have many customers.

Headed straight to SOL, Miss Tuk was not there but I chose a young Spinner who took really good care of me, twice.

I don’t remember her name but she had a nice set of breasts and a delightful pussy, we spent a long time in the Toilet area and it seemed to be no problem as the only people that came in were the girls offering their services. The second shot was very slow to come and I needed the Help of 2 more ladies, Imagine 4 people going at it in that tiny Area LOL.

I paid 2,800 for the Blowjobs (4 mouths in Total) and tipped the helpers 200 + 500 for the spinner. Total cost of my Patpong Experience: 4,600 thb. I know that will cause the Cheapos out there to come out of their Skin but I’m not an English Teacher and I have more cash than I can spend so from time to time an expensive outing does not hurt, it’s all about the Fun.

SOL really gets me 100% Satisfied everytime.

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Mr Enternational
02-07-08, 11:33
Plenty of girls from middle class families like to do a turn for some extra cash, its not cheap mind you, you'll be paying 4000 plus (as they are not poor, but they like the extra money, so there is no discounting initially, although you'll get the freebies thrown in later if you keep on meeting them, "gig" kind of relationship.
Is this one of those cases? I am no expert on Thai culture. As a matter of fact I really don't know a damned thing. But before my last trip in August I met a chick online. Turns out she wasn't even in Thailand, she was in Italy. But she said she was looking for a boyfriend for a friend in BKK. My lucky day. I chat with the friend a week or two before arriving. As soon as I check into the hotel I call her and she comes over. Fly thing. She takes me out to that club at the Ambassador Hotel. She has this big heavy ass purse and she tells me it is because there is a pair of shoes inside. So the club is closing and she says that she is going home and I can go back to the hotel. I tell her why doesn't she come to the hotel with me. It didn't take much convincing.

We get back to the room and she goes in the bathroom and pulls out all kinds of beauty products from A to Z and sets up shop around the sink. So evidently she had planned to stay all along. We fuck fuck fuck and she spends the night. The next day me, her, and my wingman went to her apartment/room, which was in a pretty nice building. We pick up one of her friends along the way. I didn't pay the new laptop any mind. Hell, everyone has computers these days. But the oddest thing is that she had two sets of golf clubs. Not saying that she can't play golf, but I have gone out with you know how many women and have yet to see but maybe 1 with 1 set of clubs...but this hairdresser chick has 2? Red flags. I think we went to MBK after that. The rest of the time with her is really a blur. I do remember her telling me that she has a daughter and strongly appologizing because she did not let me know before. (I really can't see what difference it would have made or why she thought that I would be mad at her about it.) Then during our time together she got mad at me about something. I really don't remember what it was.

I go to Pattaya and come back. I give her a call the day I am going to leave Thailand and she is at work. She says that she can come see me if I pay her to leave work. Huh? Pay you to leave work? I think you need to keep right on working then miss. I talk to her a few more times after I got back. She goes on about how I don't know how to take care of a woman and how lonely she is and wants a boyfriend. A few months goes by and I haven't spoken to her. But since I'm about to return to BKK next month I decided to speak (on MSN messenger).

She said that she just got back from teaching her staff all around Asia (Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam) so she is tired...(Whatever teaching her staff might entail). I ask about her boyfriend and she says they are on the fritz. She said that a friend of hers has a boyfriend who does "more good work than her boyfriend." Then she tells me that last time when I was in BKK and she came to see me she was having problems with her boyfriend. That is why she came to see me. So I just called her on the phone and she tells me that I do not take good care of a woman. She says there will be no more free sex and if I want to see her then I will have to pay her because she has a boyfriend. ( I never asked the nationality of said boyfriend. I could not tell from the photo she showed me, but she said they are having problems because he lives far away. So I doubt he is Thai.) She said if I do not want to give her money then there are many many women in Thailand who I can have for 5000 baht. I am thinking to myself 5000 baht? I rarely give over 500! I told her that I was about to leave the house and maybe we will talk later (maybe as in when there is a cold day in hell.)

I came right to ISG and saw Easy's post with close to the same figure that she was throwing around. When I was with this chick in BKK I figured she was a non-pro. We never discussed money except for when she talked about paying her to leave work. So I am wondering is this one of those types of deals that Easy was talking about? Or what else could it be?

Jungle Bluebird
02-07-08, 12:13
Mr. E

I can see OTH jumping at this post LOL. My 2 cents... In Thailand it is expected that you pay - good girls or not. I see some posts here where guys shag 'good girls' and get a free run. Well, so they think. Fact is the girl was to shy to ask.

In Thailand everybody pays one way or another. Money first, love later.

JB


Is this one of those cases...

Hollow Man
02-07-08, 12:27
Ok, I was looking for the website to Smile-teen but that led me to a website called "G-Diary" which listed a chunk of other massage places as well as KTV and stuff. I followed a pic of a cute girl to one of the shop listing which is called "Chip In". Need help translating please and I will add a review report after I try it out when I arrive in a few days.

So far: I have learned that it called "The Chip In Club" and it replaced the "La Vogue Club" and they do karaoke but I wanna do one of the girls I saw in the pics.

www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm?ShopID=426

Need to know what's available on the menu. (i.e. can i hammer the chicks and how much)

Bearsk
02-07-08, 12:39
June 2007 trip to BKK

President Solitaire Hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 11, one bed suite, very nice, good discrete staff. Close to bars etc and Nana skytrain.

Monday night, Magic at Ambassador was dead. Went for a drink at Hilary Bar on Soi 11. Talked to several girls and played pool, nice but young and limited English. Met Fon, slightly older girl who teaches English in the mornings and works as Mamasan's assistant. Played pool and talked. I asked her for short time or long time and she initially refused saying she did not go out. After talking, agreed to LT but she wanted 4000 baht and BF 500 baht. Too rich for me. After negotiation we agreed 3000 baht total and she took care of BF. This was a lot for me but she was very nice and had great lips and a nice body. As we left the other girls were surprised she was going out then waved at her.

Entered hotel from car park at rear, slight hassle with ID but staff OK with 200 baht "tip". We washed, and then had full on GFE style sex for about 3 hours including BBBJ to finish. She needed some BJ pointers initially but was then fantastic - some say Thai girls aren't good at this. Fon has a fantastic body (better than I had thought in the bar), works out 4 times per week at the gym, 168cm tall, about 50kg. She liked it on top especially but also from behind - I am a big guy so that may have impacted this. She is very athletic and responsive. Condom for all fucking, which was OK for me, maybe not for some others. We woke about 10am next day and after talking for a while had even better sex for about an hour and a half. We had another sleep for several hours then went to eat something and she left around 4pm. I was wrecked and just made my business dinner.

She called that night but I had business that went late and left following day. I will see her next time. While expensive, for me was more than worth it and for her I would pay that again. Hilary Bar had a very good selection, compared to elsewhere, most girls there do not smoke which is important for me. All girls quote at least 2000 B for ST and 3000 B for LT plus BF, which was more than quoted on ISG.

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Easy2007
02-07-08, 13:25
Mr E, yes, possibly was.

Lots of the middle class (and some of the Hi-So Class) girls noways love to P4P, its easy money for them, and nowadays the younger generation do not give a flying fig about virginity or keeping frigid.

They all want new cosmetics, phones, shoes etc. All the time, like Mrs Marcos, a girl can never have enough shoes.

They could fuck with their Thai boyfriend, but thats become boring, so they go for the thrill ride. Why not fuck a farang, get 4K or 5K Baht, enjoy the fuck as its a thrill fucking a new guy you'll likely never see again, and so it happens over and over again.

Now while Mr OTH likely masturbates thinking of the Uni Girls surrounding him, obviously he is unable to get "some of the action".

Its all out there, I mean, no Thai Hi-So man would ever be without a good Mia Noi and some Gigs. And the odd Gak.

And his wife is obviously getting serviced by some young P4P boys from time to time.

Its endemic in Thai society to P4P.

Easy2007
02-07-08, 13:30
Mick,

Believe me, the Uni girls recent years are not that clean as far as I have found. Many will bareback without a care in the world, and I do too :) but me I take care, always have a good nose around and if its smells, Mr Condom is used.

Thai's are very clean, especially P4P girls, and those ex-P4P girls.

However, a definite trend I have found is the Uni girls are not so pussy cleanliness conscious as the P4P girls.


Its very difficult to believe that Real Thai Uni girls, in general, don't clean their pussies.

If they were Chinese (maybe Chinese-Thai), I could believe it a little more.

My non-P4P Thai girlfriends have both been absolutely fastidious and were not even educated to Uni level.

Panty stains is a different thing altogether and not terribly unusual after a long day.
P4P bar girls probably haven't had their panties on long enough to get stained greatly. Mostly wearing bar outfits or nothing much.

Thais seem more cleanliness conscious than westerners and are unsurpassed by any other Nationality in my experience.

Smelly pussies can be a sign of the clap. :D

Fon Tok
02-07-08, 13:35
...

In Thailand everybody pays one way or another. Money first, love later.
This has been my experience with every type of woman that I've met and bedded in Thailand (from gTg to p4p). But, they're a lot easier and less expensive to keep happy than women in America.

Thank Buddha, a lot less!

Old Thai Hand
02-07-08, 16:44
Its very difficult to believe that Real Thai Uni girls, in general, don't clean their pussies.
If they were Chinese (maybe Chinese-Thai), I could believe it a little more.

My non-P4P Thai girlfriends have both been absolutely fastidious and were not even educated to Uni level.

Panty stains is a different thing altogether and not terribly unusual after a long day.
P4P bar girls probably haven't had their panties on long enough to get stained greatly. Mostly wearing bar outfits or nothing much.

Thais seem more cleanliness conscious than westerners and are unsurpassed by any other Nationality in my experience.

Smelly pussies can be a sign of the clap. :D

Easy07 is full of shit and doesn't know what he's talking about, plain and simple. He's probably spending too much time with his Isaan buffalo to know much about the hygiene of Thai women.

Old Thai Hand
02-07-08, 17:31
Mr. E

I can see OTH jumping at this post LOL. My 2 cents... In Thailand it is expected that you pay - good girls or not. I see some posts here where guys shag 'good girls' and get a free run. Well, so they think. Fact is the girl was to shy to ask.

In Thailand everybody pays one way or another. Money first, love later.

JB

I'm not going to jump on this post. At the end of the day one pays one way or the other for all women. It just depends on how you interpret what that means and how it manifests itself - cash or something else.

Old Thai Hand
02-07-08, 17:37
Mr E, yes, possibly was.

Lots of the middle class (and some of the Hi-So Class) girls noways love to P4P, its easy money for them, and nowadays the younger generation do not give a flying fig about virginity or keeping frigid.

They all want new cosmetics, phones, shoes etc. All the time, like Mrs Marcos, a girl can never have enough shoes.

They could fuck with their Thai boyfriend, but thats become boring, so they go for the thrill ride. Why not fuck a farang, get 4K or 5K Baht, enjoy the fuck as its a thrill fucking a new guy you'll likely never see again, and so it happens over and over again.

Now while Mr OTH likely masturbates thinking of the Uni Girls surrounding him, obviously he is unable to get "some of the action".

Its all out there, I mean, no Thai Hi-So man would ever be without a good Mia Noi and some Gigs. And the odd Gak.

And his wife is obviously getting serviced by some young P4P boys from time to time.

Its endemic in Thai society to P4P.

Easy!!!

You don't know anything about uni students or HiSo Thais, stuck as you are up in your Isaan hovel dreaming of your next big shopping trip to the big city with your farmer family. I think I saw you the other day: Were you that stooped-over tired Farang with the passle of luk-kreung rug rats, the little LBFM wife, her mother in sarong and father in Ma hom gawking at all the wonders of modern civilization on offer at Paragon?

You are the classic Isaan 'bugsider'.

Here's a pic for you to fantasize about up there in the backwoods.

1Ball
02-07-08, 17:50
I am learning all these new words..........
I know "gig", but I don't know "gak".
Also I have no clue what is a "bugsider".

Explanation please?

Old Thai Hand
02-07-08, 17:56
I am learning all these new words..........
I know "gig", but I don't know "gak".
Also I have no clue what is a "bugsider".

Explanation please?

'Bugsider' is Isaan for simpleton or more specifically, village idiot.

1Ball
02-07-08, 18:50
Thanks OTH, I am going to try to include that word into my every day vocabulary, though there are others on this site who should have that nickname........

So now, what is a "gak"?

Giotto
02-07-08, 18:52
Thanks OTH, I am going to try to include that word into my every day vocabulary, though there are others on this site who should have that nickname........

So now, what is a "gak"?LOL!


Giotto

Richo Stevens
02-07-08, 18:53
I believe that Easy is some addle-brained old fart.I wonder who is the old fart here. My bet to the PROFESSOR from the US coming here in 1997? You are ONE funny old git!

DownTowner
02-07-08, 20:14
we are all worried but soon we will have some answers, sorry for the long post:

clarity sought on electronics searches
u.s. agents seize travelers' devices

by ellen nakashima
washington post staff writer
thursday, february 7, 2008; a01



nabila mango, a therapist and a u.s. citizen who has lived in the country since 1965, had just flown in from jordan last december when, she said, she was detained at customs and her cellphone was taken from her purse. her daughter, waiting outside san francisco international airport, tried repeatedly to call her during the hour and a half she was questioned. but after her phone was returned, mango saw that records of her daughter's calls had been erased.

a few months earlier in the same airport, a tech engineer returning from a business trip to london objected when a federal agent asked him to type his password into his laptop computer. "this laptop doesn't belong to me," he remembers protesting. "it belongs to my company." eventually, he agreed to log on and stood by as the officer copied the web sites he had visited, said the engineer, a u.s. citizen who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of calling attention to himself.

maria udy, a marketing executive with a global travel management firm in bethesda, said her company laptop was seized by a federal agent as she was flying from dulles international airport to london in december 2006. udy, a british citizen, said the agent told her he had "a security concern" with her. "i was basically given the option of handing over my laptop or not getting on that flight," she said.

the seizure of electronics at u.s. borders has prompted protests from travelers who say they now weigh the risk of traveling with sensitive or personal information on their laptops, cameras or cellphones. in some cases, companies have altered their policies to require employees to safeguard corporate secrets by clearing laptop hard drives before international travel.

today, the electronic frontier foundation and asian law caucus, two civil liberties groups in san francisco, plan to file a lawsuit to force the government to disclose its policies on border searches, including which rules govern the seizing and copying of the contents of electronic devices. they also want to know the boundaries for asking travelers about their political views, religious practices and other activities potentially protected by the first amendment. the question of whether border agents have a right to search electronic devices at all without suspicion of a crime is already under review in the federal courts.

the lawsuit was inspired by two dozen cases, 15 of which involved searches of cellphones, laptops, mp3 players and other electronics. almost all involved travelers of muslim, middle eastern or south asian background, many of whom, including mango and the tech engineer, said they are concerned they were singled out because of racial or religious profiling.

a u.s. customs and border protection spokeswoman, lynn hollinger, said officers do not engage in racial profiling "in any way, shape or form." she said that "it is not cbp's intent to subject travelers to unwarranted scrutiny" and that a laptop may be seized if it contains information possibly tied to terrorism, narcotics smuggling, child pornography or other criminal activity.

the reason for a search is not always made clear. the association of corporate travel executives, which represents 2,500 business executives in the united states and abroad, said it has tracked complaints from several members, including udy, whose laptops have been seized and their contents copied before usually being returned days later, said susan gurley, executive director of acte. gurley said none of the travelers who have complained to the acte raised concerns about racial or ethnic profiling. gurley said none of the travelers were charged with a crime.

"i was assured that my laptop would be given back to me in 10 or 15 days," said udy, who continues to fly into and out of the united states. she said the federal agent copied her log-on and password, and asked her to show him a recent document and how she gains access to microsoft word. she was asked to pull up her e-mail but could not because of lack of internet access. with acte's help, she pressed for relief. more than a year later, udy has received neither her laptop nor an explanation.

acte last year filed a freedom of information act request to press the government for information on what happens to data seized from laptops and other electronic devices. "is it destroyed right then and there if the person is in fact just a regular business traveler?" gurley asked. "people are quite concerned. they don't want proprietary business information floating, not knowing where it has landed or where it is going. it increases the anxiety level."

udy has changed all her work passwords and no longer banks online. her company, radius, has tightened its data policies so that traveling employees must access company information remotely via an encrypted channel, and their laptops must contain no company information.

at least two major global corporations, one american and one dutch, have told their executives not to carry confidential business material on laptops on overseas trips, gurley said. in canada, one law firm has instructed its lawyers to travel to the united states with "blank laptops" whose hard drives contain no data. "we just access our information through the internet," said lou brzezinski, a partner at blaney mcmurtry, a major toronto law firm. that approach also holds risks, but "those are hacking risks as opposed to search risks," he said.

the u.s. government has argued in a pending court case that its authority to protect the country's border extends to looking at information stored in electronic devices such as laptops without any suspicion of a crime. in border searches, it regards a laptop the same as a suitcase.

"it should not matter . . . whether documents and pictures are kept in 'hard copy' form in an executive's briefcase or stored digitally in a computer. the authority of customs officials to search the former should extend equally to searches of the latter," the government argued in the child pornography case being heard by a three-judge panel of the court of appeals for the 9th circuit in san francisco.

as more and more people travel with laptops, blackberrys and cellphones, the government's laptop-equals-suitcase position is raising red flags.

"it's one thing to say it's reasonable for government agents to open your luggage," said david d. cole, a law professor at georgetown university. "it's another thing to say it's reasonable for them to read your mind and everything you have thought over the last year. what a laptop records is as personal as a diary but much more extensive. it records every web site you have searched. every e-mail you have sent. it's as if you're crossing the border with your home in your suitcase."

if the government's position on searches of electronic files is upheld, new risks will confront anyone who crosses the border with a laptop or other device, said mark rasch, a technology security expert with fti consulting and a former federal prosecutor. "your kid can be arrested because they can't prove the songs they downloaded to their ipod were legally downloaded," he said. "lawyers run the risk of exposing sensitive information about their client. trade secrets can be exposed to customs agents with no limit on what they can do with it. journalists can expose sources, all because they have the audacity to cross an invisible line."

hollinger said customs officers "are trained to protect confidential information."

shirin sinnar, a staff attorney with the asian law caucus, said that by scrutinizing the web sites people search and the phone numbers they've stored on their cellphones, "the government is going well beyond its traditional role of looking for contraband and really is looking into the content of people's thoughts and ideas and their lawful political activities."

if conducted inside the country, such searches would require a warrant and probable cause, legal experts said.

customs sometimes singles out passengers for extensive questioning and searches based on "information from various systems and specific techniques for selecting passengers," including the interagency border inspection system, according to a statement on the cbp web site. "cbp officers may, unfortunately, inconvenience law-abiding citizens in order to detect those involved in illicit activities," the statement said. but the factors agents use to single out passengers are not transparent, and travelers generally have little access to the data to see whether there are errors.

although customs said it does not profile by race or ethnicity, an officers' training guide states that "it is permissible and indeed advisable to consider an individual's connections to countries that are associated with significant terrorist activity."

"what's the difference between that and targeting people because they are arab or muslim?" cole said, noting that the countries the government focuses on are generally predominantly arab or muslim.

it is the lack of clarity about the rules that has confounded travelers and raised concerns from groups such as the asian law caucus, which said that as a result, their lawyers cannot fully advise people how they may exercise their rights during a border search. the lawsuit says a freedom of information act request was filed with customs last fall but that no information has been received.

kamran habib, a software engineer with cisco systems, has had his laptop and cellphone searched three times in the past year. once, in san francisco, an officer "went through every number and text message on my cellphone and took out my sim card in the back," said habib, a permanent u.s. resident. "so now, every time i travel, i basically clean out my phone. it's better for me to keep my colleagues and friends safe than to get them on the list as well."

udy's company, radius, organizes business trips for 100,000 travelers a day, from companies around the world. she says her firm supports strong security measures. "where we get angry is when we don't know what they're for."

staff researcher richard drezen contributed to this report.

1Ball
02-07-08, 23:15
Interesting article DownTowner.

The funny thing is, they will tell you they do this to "protect our freedom".

I have had my laptop searched at SFO, camera, USB stick, the works, it is not fun. It is also humiliating. When I asked what he was looking for, the asshole agent told me to be quiet, and he had to right to search anything he wanted.

There was nothing compromising to be found, however, I missed my flight connection.

NicFrenchy
02-07-08, 23:20
We are all worried but soon we will have some answers, sorry for the long post:BORING and irrelevant post. Why Post this in the Bangkok Thread?

A waste of space I say.

NicFrenchy
02-07-08, 23:28
Lots of the middle class (and some of the Hi-So Class) girls noways love to P4P, its easy money for them, and nowadays the younger generation do not give a flying fig about virginity or keeping frigid.This statement clearly proves you know very little (if anything) about Thai Hi-so. I am constantly around Hi-so people (a lot of young ones) and trust me, they don't need any money. P4P? who are you kidding? 5000 thb is nothing to them, I am sure they couldn't even buy lipstick with that.

You should try and go to some Hi-So parties, watch the Cars they arrive in, look at the dresses and diamonds they wear.

I have been offered sex with some cute Hi-So girls (they always send their friends do the talking) but I always refused because I am too scared of whoever daddy might be. She could do that to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off, and I could end up having my permit & Visa cancelled. It's not worth it.

Lexb
02-08-08, 00:25
A Customs agent in Washington, DC took my notebook computer from me when I returned from a solo trip to Europe(I flew back from Amsterdam) in October of 2006.

I was given no explaination as I "sweated it out" for about an hour and a half until it was returned to me. I was humiliated beyond belief by this episode and I want to avoid it happening again, if I am able to!

I am a licensed insurance professional, over fifty-five(55) years old, native-born American and my ethnic orgin is strictly European so I asked myself "why me? As far as I am concerned the only flag I could possibly send up was that I was single and I was returning from Amsterdam(concerned with drugs?).

I use my notebook purely for recreational purposes(for the Internet) since I am semi-retired but I do look frequently at adult websites.

Since this has happened I am paranoid beyond belief and plan to re-format my drive before I enter the US in the future. Since I keep nothing "on disk"
this will not present a problem for me but I would rather not to go through the bother if I don't have to.

Questions: Is my hobby of enjoying adult sites against the law and will re-
formatting my hard drive erase my website "visit trail" under normal
Customs examination?

Not that I would but curious if returning to the US with adult DVDs
is violating Custom rules?

Thanks in advance for any advise/information my fellow mongers may give me!

Old Thai Hand
02-08-08, 01:11
I wonder who is the old fart here. My bet to the PROFESSOR from the US coming here in 1997? You are ONE funny old git!

I've edited the post in which I used the term "old fart"...

But, anyway, I'm not American, (gawd forbid!) only moderately old and could never be described as an old fart...an arrogant, pompous, opinionated, annoying, know-it-all....sure....but never an old fart. My lovely GF, not to mention my students keep me a perpetual teenager. :D

Orange Sunshine
02-08-08, 02:04
I have learned that it called "The Chip In Club" and it replaced the "La Vogue Club" and they do karaoke but I wanna do one of the girls I saw in the pics.

www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm?ShopID=426

Need to know what's available on the menu. (i.e. can i hammer the chicks and how much)My Japanese is rusty but the web page is skimpy on details. Plus no visitor has left any comments. The menu prices are for the room, booze, lady drinks, snacks, table charge, etc. But nothing for special services (as expected). The only encouraging tidbit is that it states that the girls are available for "dates" outside the premises. Based on that euphemism, I reckon you could negotiate a ST/LT fee with a girl and then head off afterwards.

Keep in mind, some of these Japanese-oriented lounges may not welcome farang customers. And although this place has laid out prices upfront, the bill at the end of an evening could set you back more than you expected, especially if the sole purpose for the visit was to simply pull one particular girl. In that case, you might be better off to visit a soap/oil MP. Still, if you like this type of venue (for the hostess treatment and the types of girls available), I'm sure you'll have a blast too.

Orange Sunshine
02-08-08, 02:44
I have learned that it called "The Chip In Club" and it replaced the "La Vogue Club" and they do karaoke but I wanna do one of the girls I saw in the pics.

www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm?ShopID=426

Need to know what's available on the menu. (i.e. can i hammer the chicks and how much)My Japanese is rusty but the web page is skimpy on details. Plus no visitor has left any comments. The menu prices are for the room, booze, lady drinks, snacks, table charge, etc. But nothing for special services (as expected). The only encouraging tidbit is that it states that the girls are available for "dates" outside the premises. Based on that euphemism, I reckon you could negotiate a ST/LT fee with a girl and then head off afterwards.

Keep in mind, some of these Japanese-oriented lounges may not welcome farang customers. And although this place has laid out prices upfront, the bill at the end of an evening could set you back more than you expected, especially if the sole purpose for the visit was to simply pull one particular girl. In that case, you might be better off to visit a soap/oil MP. Still, if you like this type of venue (for the hostess treatment and the types of girls available), I'm sure you'll have a blast too.

Easy2007
02-08-08, 03:05
Oh dear, OTH is getting grumpy. Sadly for him, people like me know a a hell of lot more about Muang Thai that he ever will. It frustrates the arse off of him

OTH has a girlfriend?

Given his abuse of all mongers walking round with pretty little girls on their arm, and his constant use of ISG, but never offering advice on girls. I am now coming to the stage of pitying him.

You see it often in Thailand, you'll see some dork looking farang, teacher more than likely, in shirt, tie and trousers on weekend, sweating profusely, carrying shopping bags and accompanied by a grotesque looking Thai girl. The one where you feel like walking over to them and giving them a 1000 Baht and saying "you can buy a better one than that".

Well well well, poor old OTH does not know what a "Gak" is. Lots of farang do not, its more a Thai thing.

I will let OTH go off now and ask his students (plenty of which are likely Gigs and Gaks). And then OTH can come back and post as the authority of all things Thai again. LOL


Thanks OTH, I am going to try to include that word into my every day vocabulary, though there are others on this site who should have that nickname........

So now, what is a "gak"?

Easy2007
02-08-08, 03:16
oth, after reading a couple of your posts elsewhere, it does seem my guess was right. you hate isaan people because you got done over by a couple of isaan girls? is that right?

our initial spat i did say that your hate of things isaan can only be due to jealousy of them, or you have (cause you are so ignorant and arrogant and think you are better than anyone else, the ideal target to get done over by a nifty clever little brown girl) got done over by an isaan girl or two.

so after getting done over by the little brown girls you opted for the safest route, find a really grotesque looking girl who would be happy to be the gf of the hunchback, cause she will cause you no harm, no grief, and always be there.

you are now filled with rage and jealousy of the farangs you see around town, with pretty lbfm's on their arm. you hate them, you despise them, cause you cannot do what they do.

i now understand why you are the way you are, why you try to portray yourself as you do, and why, ultimately, i now feel sorry for you, and feel pity for you.

maybe i will invite you to the pegasus club with me sometime for a beer. maybe not.

i think we can deduce you got done over by the posts below :


having played the online game for about 5 years now, i would strongly recommend caution when dealing with any of these girls.

first and foremost, don't ever let them know where your condo is - take them to a hotel, or go to their place. get another phone, separate from your usual phone and use this when communicating with any of them. they may say that they understand that you aren't looking for anything serious. but, trust me, none of them actually buy into this and will get very attached, very fast and will turn psycho, if they think you have someone else.

i've been stalked, threatened with a false pregnancy a few times, threatened with a charge of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and police coming to my condo with the "victim", huge tantrums and crying jags in public, not to mention two incidents of physical assault (not serious, in that neither could punch very hard). but, the punching in one case attracted a group of angry motorcycle taxi guys who just assumed the worst about "the farang" and were ready to beat the crap out of me, until i managed to hop in a taxi and escape.

have fun. but, be careful. .



that should read, " 'better' class of woman that i normally associate with ". :d however, there are some of those online, too. i was just referring to the worst case scenario of my experiences which represents less than 10% of the 70 or so women i have met online. afterall, as i've stated before, i met both my gf and gig online and the two of them are true gems. so, one can meet quality girls online. but, it takes some major searching through the drek to find them. i wasn't looking for a gf. but, i luckily found one by accident.

back in 2003, i started using online websites like asianeuro, thailovelinks, and more recently hotornot, not to mention hi5 and msn personals because it was something different and initially i thought it would be another and certainly easier avenue to pursue, than my usual route. but, most of the girls, while shaggable aren't my personal cup of tea. but, i'm sure they would appeal to many others. while there is a wide variety to choose from, most still seem to come from isaan, especially khon kaen and udon thani (i particularly dislike women from these 2 provinces), and the vast majority do seem quite desperate. also, the quality has dropped considerably in the last couple of years and there are a lot more p4p, or near-p4p now using these sites, under the guise of being "regular" tgs.

i think for someone just coming here on a holiday, it's a good way to go with the advantage of being able to escape after a couple of weeks, without any lingering after-effects. but, for someone living here, it requires considerably more caution and being much more selective.

LuvDaPuss
02-08-08, 03:16
Hey Downtowner, thanks for the heads up in that article. Last time I returned from LOS to LAX I got searched pretty thorughly. Me, a 50 yr old white farang, singled out of a 747 arrival of ~450 people. Suspect it was profiling, as the officer went into my camera and looked at every pic. Lucky for me I emailed the girls pics even though they were of age. But some look very young at certain camera angles, and what a nightmare that can bring! Personally I don't need the hassle.

Be careful out there.......LDP

PS - It would be a big help if someone out there knows a good website where a MBA/Mechanical Engineer could find a job in the LOS. Please PM me if so.

PinkPearl
02-08-08, 04:23
Mr. E

I can see OTH jumping at this post LOL. My 2 cents... In Thailand it is expected that you pay - good girls or not. I see some posts here where guys shag 'good girls' and get a free run. Well, so they think. Fact is the girl was to shy to ask.But, then, there are the girls who specificly tell you not to pay them.

Were they too shy to ask for money, but bold enough to tell you that?

PinkPearl
02-08-08, 04:35
Its all out there, I mean, no Thai Hi-So man would ever be without a good Mia Noi and some Gigs. And the odd Gak.

And his wife is obviously getting serviced by some young P4P boys from time to time.

Its endemic in Thai society to P4P.The other day a P4P TG was talking about marrying me. I said that I am a butterfly, but this was no problem for her. Without hesitation she granted me the right to Tomcat, and said that she would do so herself. Immediately I got rid of her and exercised my right.

PinkPearl
02-08-08, 04:44
Thai's are very clean, especially P4P girls, and those ex-P4P girls.

However, a definite trend I have found is the Uni girls are not so pussy cleanliness conscious as the P4P girls.Not only pussy clean conscious, but my dick, balls, hands, everything.

PinkPearl
02-08-08, 04:50
This has been my experience with every type of woman that I've met and bedded in Thailand (from gTg to p4p). But, they're a lot easier and less expensive to keep happy than women in America.

Thank Buddha, a lot less!Yes, money economy is the only reason to cum to LOS.

What is gTg?

Thaid Up
02-08-08, 07:10
Well OTH seems to have gotten his panties in a bunch over Easy2007, now it seems that we have to get the uni’s girl degree to make sure she is going to the right UNIVERISTY. OTH’s elitism is too funny!

Well the MP’s on Rachada row are mainly their for the Thai’s so being that their preference is for white skinned girls that is mostly what they stock. From all the girls that I fucked there, I do not know what university that they were attending, but most were Marketing Majors, a few Business Majors and one Computer Science Major. Sorry I did bother to check the degrees.

The subject seems to be on getting into bed with Uni girls not Hi-so girls. The girls attending my TGF’s university are definitely not Hi-so, there are only two that pay for their tuition by cash the rest rely on government loans. The majority would be middle class.

I will be partying tonight with ten uni girls. They don’t have any fake ID’s, but I have a friend that owns a club in the Thong Lo area that pays off the MIB so no problem. After a few drinks they are sloshing drunk, Good Times!

A few months ago I also when to a party attended by so called “Hi-So” attending Dusit Thani College. Well they arrive in their fancy cars, but from I can tell, this is where the Hi-So send their kids to college that are low achievers not a brain cell between them, but a lot of eye candy. By the end of the night they were sloshing drunk with their tits falling out of their expensive low cost dresses. Quite the spectacle.

I choice to be a corrupter of Uni girls instead of the instructor of one. It is much more fun.

Giotto
02-08-08, 08:18
Well, I never went to school, so I don't even try to approach Uni girls. But for those who try to find regulars here an interesting report from Stickman:

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickMarkII/MeetingThaiWomenBackToBasics.htm

BTW: I read there that the ST/LT rates in Rainbow 4 are now THB 2,500 / THB 4,000 . I haven't been there for a while now - can somebody confirm that?


Giotto

AsiaTraveler2
02-08-08, 10:34
Thanks OTH, I am going to try to include that word into my every day vocabulary, though there are others on this site who should have that nickname........

So now, what is a "gak"?

1Ball,

That's the sound that comes out of a Rainbow Bar girl, when you offer her 500 baht LT. It's also the sound coming from Opebo's mouth, when you say you paid over 500 baht for ST. Sorry Opebo .. no offense intended.

AT2

Jungle Bluebird
02-08-08, 11:01
Pink. Think of it as donations, not pay for sex. Average income for secretary THB 15,000 per month. A 'donation' is surely welcome. At THB 1,500 that is 10% of her monthly regular income - or - another pair of shoes :-)

I always insist on paying. Figure only fair. Label it as taxi money, rent contribution or whatever.

JB



But, then, there are the girls who specificly tell you not to pay them.

Were they too shy to ask for money, but bold enough to tell you that?

Old Thai Hand
02-08-08, 11:04
Well OTH seems to have gotten his panties in a bunch over Easy2007, now it seems that we have to get the uni’s girl degree to make sure she is going to the right UNIVERISTY. OTH’s elitism is too funny!

First of all, It's not elistism. It's merely like anywhere. There are first tier to third tier unis. It's not really a comment on how hot the girls are, but a comment on where they are most easily accessible. That's all. To tell you the truth, there are often better looking and much nicer girls at some of the lower level unis, than there are at Chula or Thammasat where the girls are often a pain in the ass and spoiled brats. I used to teach at Ramkhamhaeng many years ago and I think the girls there were much more fun and easier to deal with than those with whom I have to deal now.

Also, I'm not really worked up about Easy. I just like seeing how far I can push him and he obviously now really gets off by insulting me - his last posts about me were quite amusing. Of course, I don't really know him, and I don't care about him. This is all just a game, isn't it? Or, is it? I'm not sure, sometimes. A lot of these fights, whether involving me or others develop there own momentum quite quickly and usually spin out of control, much to the chagrin of those readers who just come here to exchange info and stories. None of what I've said about Easy is meant to be true because I have no empirical proof, anymore than he can substantiate his remarks about me. He can say things about OTH. But, who is OTH...or Giotto...or 1Ball...or Opebo, or Easy2007 and anyone else, here? Just faceless names.

People on this forum take things that are written much too seriously and too literally. I too have been guilty of this, on occasion. It's human nature to sometimes get carried away with remarks made, to take them personally and to then get petty, childish and insulting. But, in reality, when it goes too far and gets out of hand, as it has now between Easy and I, I force myself to remember the wise words of Terry Terrier who stated quite correctly that this is nothing but an obscure sex forum of little importance. Personas are illusions. There are posters on here who have several personas. Which one, if any is in anyway the real person? Domino, for example has any number of alter egos - Sanook D is one. There are probably dozens more. Are any of them really him?

One always has to remember that on the Internet, the constraints of social convention disappear as people seem to forget how to behave - me included. In normal social interaction where one is face to face with someone, unless you're a true geezer who gets his jollies pounding on somebody, we would never say the things we feel perfectly at ease saying here within the safety of anonimity. If we did, we'd get our asses kicked.

I'm sure there is a little of me in OTH. How could there not be? But, I think that in many cases on here the personas, whoever they belong to are gross exaggerations and cartoons of the real person. But, that won't stop OTH from continuing to be an arrogant, pompous, elitist, condescending, know-it-all (etc. etc. etc.) ass. That's his raison d'etre. I enjoy being him. But, I am not him.

I'm sorry to take up space with this rambling post - just some musings about the state of things.

Old Thai Hand
02-08-08, 11:36
[QUOTE]Oth, after reading a couple of your posts elsewhere, it does seem my guess was right. You hate Isaan people because you got done over by a couple of Isaan girls? Is that right?[QUOTE]

No. In reality, the best GF I ever had came from Roi-et. She was a dirt-poor farmgirl. My current one also comes from Isaan and is solidly middle-class. No HiSo girls for me. I know lots of them, and they are not worth the trouble.

The experiences to which I referred in my warning about online dating did not involve any girls from Isaan. All were in fact from Bangkok or near Bangkok.

I somehow doubt you'll let it rest, as you appear to be on a roll. So, knock yourself out. I'm done.

Fon Tok
02-08-08, 11:44
Yes, money economy is the only reason to cum to LOS.

What is gTg?That would be a "good Thai girl"...there's about 30+million of them.

Still have to pay something at some point..."you give money?"

Their shoes are not quite so fancy, though.

Thaid Up
02-08-08, 11:57
Well I can admit to never fucking with any Hi-So girls, but a lot of uni girls. What was quite the eye opener for me is what appeared to be Hi-So girls from a so-called university, Dusit Thani College. It appears that these girls go to this college as this is the best they can achieve mentally. They were totally obnoxious and even worse drunks, I pity the Thai guys that are boyfriends to these girls. No wonder the MP's are bustling business for Thai's.

Hollow Man
02-08-08, 13:48
Keep in mind, some of these Japanese-oriented lounges may not welcome farang customers. And although this place has laid out prices upfront, the bill at the end of an evening could set you back more than you expected, especially if the sole purpose for the visit was to simply pull one particular girl. In that case, you might be better off to visit a soap/oil MP. Still, if you like this type of venue (for the hostess treatment and the types of girls available), I'm sure you'll have a blast too.Thanks Orange. I don't have the dough to risk a padded bill coming up :-(. I'll stick with the MP thing and maybe enjoy a few drinks and a show at Nana.

Pheasant
02-08-08, 14:05
Having run around BKK all day on business (of the legit kind) I decided to head over to Soi Cowboy for the first time (even after quite a few trips to BKK.) I got there about 23h30 and immediatley liked the atmosphere. No aggressive selling on the street. I had a look around and then remembering the comments on ISG went to Susy Wong to have a lookie lookie. I took a seat in the back, so I could have a good look around. After a while a girl (mamasan? ) comes to me and asks if I wanted a lady. As I was just looking to relax I told her so and kindly was left alone (with my drink and the lovely girls on stage.) for the rest of my time there. Again a nice experience just being left to ones own devices if so chosen. I got a laugh out of the waitress for ordering a pineapple juice? ! ? And what is the deal with the pingpong balls? The girls were crazy for them! And what time is the famous lesbian show? The dancing on stage was a bit "slow" at first, but then there was a change of dancers and they proceeded to do a great oily, full nude (with all the bits and pieces) session (no lesbian) which was very much appreciated by all

I wanted to check out Baccarat for the infamous upstairs-glass-floor which was verxy amusing. Again nice atmosphere and not too much hassling for lady drinks etc. The girls upstairs were a mixewd bunch with some obviously having fun and others trying very hard to prevent us pervs from looking up their skirts Ended up taking one of the dancers from the main stage for ST. She caught my eye with her very good dancing style which was much more active than the rest of the girls. (Thinking back to the saying "the way a girl dances is the way she is in bed"). However after paying the BF, this is where it all went a bit pear shaped. I wait for P. No. 9x to change and as we head off to find a taxi I notice she is a little drunk and wobbly on the legs. No worries, I think: nothing a short walk and a shower can't fix. When we get to the hotel, as I enter the room I notice no light, no aircon, no hot water etc: there seems to be a complete powercut in all of Soi 11. Now what: got this girly by the hand who is a little afraid of the dark, no light, no warm water for shower, can't see shit etc. I called the front desk and asked for a torch. After 20min they send someone with 3 little candles and a box of matches LOL! Romantic, I think.

Since P. Had been dancing all night and I was a little sweaty, I insisted on a cold shower (which in BKK is actually quite welcoming). Unfortunatly P. Was more into falling asleep than anything else, and even though she was up for everything (. Except lesbian, she had told me back at Baccarat) I had to take control and constantly tell her what to do and what I wanted. Not my idea of a good romp! She had offered as many shots as I wanted during ST, but after the first one was done and P. Was literally falling asleep. I sent her on her sleepy, merry way and called a night.

15min, after she left, and I was already on the way to lalaland. The lights, aircon. , fridge, TV etc. All come on. Fucking frightened the living shit out of me

Cheers

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Old Thai Hand
02-08-08, 16:12
Thanks OTH, I am going to try to include that word into my every day vocabulary, though there are others on this site who should have that nickname........

So now, what is a "gak"?

Sorry, I forgot to answer this.

Gak is colloquial Thai meaning generally "a little bit", or "insignificant". One might for example refer to a shot of booze as "kaew gak", literally a little glass.

The word has been co-opted by Thai teenagers (originally Gig Gak and now just Gak) to mean a casual love, maybe like puppy love. It may mean someone a teen has sex with for the first time, but usually doesn't imply sex. It's certainly not about any kind of serious relationship, not that widely used, actually and certainly not used by anyone over the age of 20. It's unlikely that university students would use it, especially beyond the freshman year. While I've heard Gig used by students many times, I've only heard Gak once or twice and always in a kidding around sort of way.

The term Gig, Gik, Kik (different spellings-same pronunciation) is more widely used even by teens and refers mostly these days to a "friend with benefits". It used to be more general and didn't necessarily always refer to a friend with whom one had sex. But, these days, it's generally assumed that one has sex with one's Gig. It used to be a cool term. But, with the inference of casual sex, it's now taking on a negative connotation. Where before, I would hear women, especially my students use it all the time, it now seems to cause embarrassment.

BTW, I know you're likely kidding. But, I really would not use the term "bugsider" (difficult to pronounce correctly, anyway), if I was you. Among Thais it has been corrupted to become quite a perjorative term. It's original meaning in Isaan is quite charming - a naiive, country bumpkin who's rather innocent of the world. It's only the Thais who have turned it back onto people from Isaan to mean "simpleton", "village idiot" etc.

The Isaan term for Farang is "Bugsida" - sounds a bit similar. I've heard BGs a couple of times use the phrase "Bugsida Bugsider" to mean, I suppose an idiot Farang. But, I think it might have been a spur of the moment joke. It's certainly not widely used. Thai and Isaan Lao can be minefields for the uninitiated.

Professor 1
02-08-08, 16:44
I wonder who is the old fart here. My bet to the PROFESSOR from the US coming here in 1997? You are ONE funny old git!

One of my brother professors visited, and left me behind??

NicFrenchy
02-08-08, 18:14
The term Gig, Gik, Kik (different spellings-same pronunciation) is more widely used even by teens and refers mostly these days to a "friend with benefits". It used to be more general and didn't necessarily always refer to a friend with whom one had sex. But, these days, it's generally assumed that one has sex with one's Gig. It used to be a cool term. But, with the inference of casual sex, it's now taking on a negative connotation. Where before, I would hear women, especially my students use it all the time, it now seems to cause embarrassment.Negative Connotation ? LOL I think it depends on which side of the fence you're seating ;)

I have 3 giks at the moment (casual sex for An expensive night out, shopping, gifts) and they seem not to pay too much attention to the term Gik, I think it is quite natural for them.

LittleBigMan
02-08-08, 21:27
Guys, I personally don't care if they are low, middle, or Hi-So, I don't care if they are dressed like a Uni-girl to pretend, or they real are one! I don't care if they go to the best University or the just a trade school! To each his own!

I am on a budget but I no cheap Charlie, if the situation arises and LBM get excited and I think the challenge is worth the time I break out the wallet for him and sometimes I do overpay! but it a mental challenge to see how far I can go!

All this conversation leads me to remember 4 years back, staying at Nana Hotel I like to eat at the Landmark Hotel late at night. There were couple of girls which I thought might have been Uni-girls, spoke excellent English and they were all somewhat drunk and having good time. I happen to be seated to the table next to them. When I ordered my food the girls stare at me because of my race and that I could speak English. Now I found out that they were Uni-girls and at that time I didn't know one University from the other and personally I don't care then or now! Well, I did hit it off with one of them and I never told them I was staying at Nana, instead I was staying at the Marriort with my other associates. We agree to meet up the next day but this time I took a gamble and checked out of the Nana, and checked into Landmark for the night. We went to dinner and a couple of clubs ( all somewhat Hi-So ) but at the end of the night it all paid off, told her I got a room at the Landmark just for the night and that my associated thought I was off seeing some friends in town.

In the end, isn't it all a game with us! were all lying DOGS! Even if we are cheap we shell out and overpay just for the challenge of it all. If they spread it we all do what the little head tells us! Hi-So or Lo-So, school or no school!
When time exist, you can go to the World Trade Center and watch the candy come and go, you can even go to the Bus Stop on Soi 4, there are girls that serve you tell you they aren't P4P, that they are students but will go out with you just for their company but no sex. But in the end if you want it bad enough and they have a great time with you and they think you are worth the investment based on the Bull-shit you are feeding them they will end up in the sack with you!

The goal is getting them in bed and how much time and money you are going to invest in it. If your not going to marry them what difference does it make what school they come from?

LBM, is getting on the plane tonight so see ya fellas!

1Ball
02-08-08, 22:15
Sorry, I forgot to answer this.

BTW, I know you're likely kidding. But, I really would not use the term "bugsider" (difficult to pronounce correctly, anyway), if I was you. Among Thais it has been corrupted to become quite a perjorative term. It's original meaning in Isaan is quite charming - a naiive, country bumpkin who's rather innocent of the world. It's only the Thais who have turned it back onto people from Isaan to mean "simpleton", "village idiot" etc.

Well, thanks for the explanation OTH, and no need to worry, I wans't planning on using the term "bugsider" in Thailand. it's just when you explained it to me, I immediately thought of a "special someone" in the forum, to whom this moniker would fit perfectly............

M P Lurker
02-09-08, 01:07
Well, thanks for the explanation OTH, and no need to worry, I wans't planning on using the term "bugsider" in Thailand. it's just when you explained it to me, I immediately thought of a "special someone" in the forum, to whom this moniker would fit perfectly............
I learn't the hard way that Farangs should never use Thai words that they don't fully understand the usage of.
Can get into trouble.

This particularly applies to swear words as we Farangs often don't understand the feeling behind swear words.
There are even words that girls can use that guys cannot, so don't copy the girls.
Its OK for a girl to call a guy "dtolae" but in reverse, you're in deep shit !
Basically means "devious bull-shit artist" (perhaps stronger than that) but it seems to be extremely impolite to call a girl this.

Easy2007
02-09-08, 03:19
Mick, it depends on the company you are in, if you were tagging along with OTH and his pretend "Hi-So" friends, then yes, the use of that term, pronounced similar to "doll-air". Would be seen as very uncouth. OTH might even say "Isaan like" as he detests everything about the poor country bumpkins.

However, amongst the younger generation, and indeed most "normal people" (as in those not pretending to be Hi-So, or attempting to be Hi-So). Its fine to say playfully, when jesting they are bullshitting, "doll-air".

But yes, underneath it is quite strong terms for a bullshitter, or bullshit, so use with care, and if using in a joking manner, make sure its taken as such, and utilise a long pause on the "air". Making it "doll-aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir".

If used against someone in a nasty way, then make it short and sharp "doll-air".


I learn't the hard way that Farangs should never use Thai words that they don't fully understand the usage of.
Can get into trouble.

This particularly applies to swear words as we Farangs often don't understand the feeling behind swear words.

There are even words that girls can use that guys cannot, so don't copy the girls.
Its OK for a girl to call a gut "dtolae" but in reverse, you're in deep shit !
Basically means "devious bull-shit artist" (perhaps stronger than that) but it seems to be extremely impolite to call a girl this.

PinkPearl
02-09-08, 03:49
I will let OTH go off now and ask his students (plenty of which are likely Gigs and Gaks). If you said the words Gig or Gak to a TG would she know what you are talking about just the same as if you said Nit Noy {a little bit}?

Old Thai Hand
02-09-08, 04:33
Well, thanks for the explanation OTH, and no need to worry, I wans't planning on using the term "bugsider" in Thailand. it's just when you explained it to me, I immediately thought of a "special someone" in the forum, to whom this moniker would fit perfectly............

Only ONE????

Worltravel
02-09-08, 06:05
Well, I never went to school, so I don't even try to approach Uni girls. But for those who try to find regulars here an interesting report from Stickman:

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickMarkII/MeetingThaiWomenBackToBasics.htm

BTW: I read there that the ST/LT rates in Rainbow 4 are now THB 2,500 / THB 4,000 . I haven't been there for a while now - can somebody confirm that?

GiottoWas to the Rainbow on groundfloor at Nana last week, they asked for 2000 ST ,and was hard get a girl who wanted LT .

They have family or boyfriend and want to go home at 0200.

One girl could stay to 0700 and wanted 4000 and then I say 3000 she left telling the hostess that that farang should look for another lady :-).

Easy2007
02-09-08, 13:44
If you said the words Gig or Gak to a TG would she know what you are talking about just the same as if you said Nit Noy {a little bit}?Yes, they would, its in quite common use, amongst (sexually active (!)) Thai's, not Farang.

Alroy
02-09-08, 22:28
I went back to Hana Massage to Rin for the special balls massage. My last experience was that it was amazing and revitalized me in a way that I cannot believe. I found that it helped the quality of my erections for weeks after and also felt really good while it was going on.

This time I went in fresh, as in not having had much sexual activity the few days before I saw her. The experience was still great, though this time it felt much more like a a really really great hand job where she brings you to the brink and keeps you there for a long time. She is very accomodating while she is doing this and will let you kiss, touch and play with her boobs and huge nipples or her pussy. I am sure that it would be very easy to get her to go to 69 or all the way from there if you really wanted. Anyway it was still wonderful but after playing with some veins around the ball sac she moved on and just focused on the erection and making mefeel good there. This time I felt it was less of a balls massage. I ended coming on her boobs when she started to rub me between her breasts. I found another girl later that night and really f**d her that night 3 times which is more than I am usually capable of so I think that this massage is a good idea when you really want to go at it.

My session of 90 mins cost 1300 which I thought was still great for the quality of the experience.

Does anybody know of other provider who know how to do the balls massage in BKK? There must be others who actually do have some definite technique on this.

NicFrenchy
02-10-08, 01:58
I went back to Hana Massage to Rin for the special balls massage. We have a Massage Thread for this.

Old Thai Hand
02-10-08, 03:53
If you said the words Gig or Gak to a TG would she know what you are talking about just the same as if you said Nit Noy {a little bit}?

Gig is in very common usage. There have actually been two Thai movies with this as the title (The Gig, The Gig 2).

However, as I said before in my answer to 1Ball, Gak is not that common and when used is primarily used by teens only.

I asked my GF, who said it wasn't very common. I also asked my students who said it wouldn't be used by anyone except teenagers, and that it wasn't a very popular term. Gig has become the all-inclusive term for everyone. But, as I said to 1Ball, it is starting to take on negative connotations.

Old Thai Hand
02-10-08, 04:35
I learn't the hard way that Farangs should never use Thai words that they don't fully understand the usage of.
Can get into trouble.

This particularly applies to swear words as we Farangs often don't understand the feeling behind swear words.
There are even words that girls can use that guys cannot, so don't copy the girls.
Its OK for a girl to call a guy "dtolae" but in reverse, you're in deep shit !
Basically means "devious bull-shit artist" (perhaps stronger than that) but it seems to be extremely impolite to call a girl this.

I don't think it's appropriate to use any Thai expletives, no matter whose company you keep - from HiSo, to "pretend" HiSo, to MidSo, to SoSo, to LoSo, to NoSo, to HoSo, swearing is never wise. By not being Thai, you're damned even if you use them correctly.

Thai is full of a lot of bawdiness. A good deal of the most popular humour (from traditional Isaan shows at temple fairs) which is now used in all forms of entertainment, especially TV and movies contains loads of "off-colour" words and expressions. Spoken by Thai, but especially Isaan entertainers, they are quite charming. But, if a Farang, (even those who are extremely fluent) attempts to 'go native' and do the same, it usually comes off quite wrong.

Also, with all this discussion about the word 'Gig', it should be noted that a lot of so-called 'regular' Thai women do not like this word, now and would be horrified if it was used by a man to describe them. 'Gig' has become linked to the older term 'mia noi' and no decent Thai woman (even if in reality, she's not quite as decent as she thinks) wants to be thought of in that way.

Generally, non-Thais should stick to proper and polite forms of the language, only. You won't ingratiate yourself to the people by attempting to get overly familiar with them in your use of language.

Giotto
02-10-08, 08:39
A late night tour through Bangkok with some members, Passinthrough's report:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=705795


Giotto

PinkPearl
02-10-08, 09:49
I don't think it's appropriate to use any Thai expletives, no matter whose company you keep - from HiSo, to "pretend" HiSo, to MidSo, to SoSo, to LoSo, to NoSo, to HoSo, swearing is never wise. By not being Thai, you're damned even if you use them correctly.

{snip}

Generally, non-Thais should stick to proper and polite forms of the language, only. You won't ingratiate yourself to the people by attempting to get overly familiar with them in your use of language.I guess as usual you are going to say that you are only talking about the non P4P world here.

In my experience with SW ladies of the night I very quickly learned the words for crazy and slap slap {Ding Dong and Sillops Siloy, more or less}, and have found that TGs like my use of them. Admittedly, though, at times this is due to my total mutilation of the language, which I blame on my alzheimers.

Bounce Around
02-10-08, 10:15
Hello All, Staying at the Citichic Hotel Feb 19th to 22nd.

Will welcome other mongers to get together for a drink or trolling.

Would like to check out some high end place like Pent Executive Club or similar with experienced local mongerers.

PassinThrough
02-10-08, 15:00
I have had the opportunity to go to Soi Cowboy a couple times in the last few weeks to show first time Bangkok visitors the sights. I like to take them to Soi Cowboy because it has everything and I think is a bit better than Nana and a lot better that PatPong. Any way I just wanted to share the experience, I hope you enjoy it.

Arriving at Soi Cowboy is like walking into the big tent at a circus, or maybe a freak show. Even before you go into a bar you are overwhelmed with sights and sounds. on the mostly pedestrian street, there are some scooters driving up and down, you will see everything from Elephants to fried scorpions. Last night there were two elephants with their handlers walking up and down. One was pretty big and getting tusks while the other was younger. They are there so you can buy sugar cane and feed them while taking pictures. I feel sorry for the poor animals but it is a sight to see. At various stalls up and down the street you can find anything from fried scorpions to squid jerky. They sell just about anything that walked the earth. Ok maybe a bit of an exaggeration but you can definitely get a lot of different foods and some smell really good. There are usually also people walking up and down selling toys and stuffed animals, just like you find at the circus. There are also beggars looking for hand outs. One in particular who is missing a leg will slide up and down the street on his stomach with a sign asking for money, others just come up and ask or show you a sign.

Now one thing that you can't help but notice is the woman, young, older and old walking around in various states of dress. No one is nude or topless on the street, though some of the costumes leave little to the imagination. They are there to get you to go into the bars but there are also a lot who have come out of the bars to get some food or take a break and talk to friends. If you wanted to find a great companion for the night you could do it just walking around outside. Finally there are lots of children running around. Some are trying to sell you flowers and other things to give the girls while others seem to just be playing. It is a crazy atmosphere.

Ok, let's take it inside. Pick one of the dozens of clubs and allow yourself to be brought inside. I am going to start with Long Gun. The first thing you are likely to see is half naked or fully naked girls dancing on the stage. As soon as you get in you will be ushered to a seat and your drink order taken. Beer is about the same price as water so order what ever you want, they don’t care. If you get there are the right time you can see the show, which I think is one of the most interesting in Bangkok. The girls do a lot of things with their pussies including pulling out a variety of things, smoking, blowing horns, shooting bananas, blowing out candles and finally popping balloons hanging from the ceiling by shooting darts. If you see someone you like, be it a girl on stage or one of the waitresses ask her to join you. Another good show is at Suzy Wong’s; they do a pretty good lesbian show that goes beyond what you see most places. I know the people I have taken there watched with their mouths open. If you want a little extra there are a couple bars, such as Jungle Jim’s that will do a little extra. If you go in you might find yourself drinking a beer as a girl oils up you little buddy and proceeds to give him a nice hand work out.

There are all sorts of bars, some are pretty big with dozens of girls while others are small with only a small bar and a couple girls dancing on stage. The key in my mind is to find a place that is playing music you enjoy. When you find it have a beer or two, or water, or whiskey or what ever your pleasure and just enjoy the show.

In my opinion Soi Cowboy is a must see at least once. Take a camera for the pictures of elephants and some of the delectable snack food but remember everyone expects a few baht for the pictures so give them something so they can make a living.

Enjoy and don’t eat too much cotton candy or you will get a stomach ache.

PIT

FreebieFan
02-11-08, 03:41
Well since I posted my report (see earlier) had several PM's asking me how I found the freebies. Well the answer is Craigs LIst Friendster and Date in Asia.

Be careful with Dare in Asia. Many scammers both in Thailand and Phils. But could be a good source.

Anyways turns out that the one who had told me was 23. And who sweetly went to sleep holding my dick is actually 29 she revealed to me yesterday. Yes women also lie about their age hahah

And the sweet young thing I took back to my room one afternoon as I was bored, told me I was the 2nd guy she had made love with. So there you go. Life is fun and funny and has many twists and turns.

Am lad I don't live in BKK. Would never get any work done!

PinkPearl
02-11-08, 03:44
Was to the Rainbow on groundfloor at Nana last week, they asked for 2000 ST ,and was hard get a girl who wanted LT .

They have family or boyfriend and want to go home at 0200.

One girl could stay to 0700 and wanted 4000 and then I say 3000 she left telling the hostess that that farang should look for another lady :-).For 2000 I'd expect an hour of high quality ass licking or 2 hours of balls sucking, smoking & boom boom. Tell her to choose between the two, I don't care if her name is Jessica Alba or Halle Berry. Women like this can be found on the street every night for 1000.

LittleBigMan
02-11-08, 04:00
Short report,

Sunday the 10th, in BKK,

Well, LBM is here in BKK with loads of luggage for the family. So damn heavy that I twik my right knee when leaving for the airport in which it started to act up when I left Tulip ( See short report in Massge Thread ) and started to do my normal walk back to the hotel on Soi 4. Wanted to meet Giotto at his place and was able to walk to his hotel around 4:15, by the time I got to his place and went inside which I saw a group around the bar and another small group near the pool the knee was starting to swell which put me in a real bad mood. I remember seeing his face before looked around didn't see him so took off, so sorry Giotto. Wanted on this visit also to check out the Toxic and Bada Bing Bar on Soi 18, and 22, based on Evil's writing, but walking by Soi, 22,18, not sure how far to go down and the knee starting to swell called it a day and caught a motorcyle taxis back to the hotel.

That evening felt better placing ice on the knee, stunk pretty much to Nana, for a Thai and foot massage. Pretty slow for a Sunday evening, but still a few cuties out front in the parking lot. Try to get in to the Nana Angel Disco, The past few times they allow me in free since I was a hotel guess but this time they told me I had to pay! Finally gave in and I could see why they wanted me to pay! even by 01:15, the place was pretty empty not much to pick from. Not sure if it was because of a Sunday or the place is slowing dying!

How LBM, didn't tear something in the knee! Not allot of luck with medical lately! LBM, is upset!

PinkPearl
02-11-08, 04:06
My session of 90 mins cost 1300 which I thought was still great for the quality of the experience.

Does anybody know of other provider who know how to do the balls massage in BKK? There must be others who actually do have some definite technique on this.I'm not sure what this special "balls massage" involves, but many street ladies of the night will give hand, tongue, lip and mouth massages in that area, as well as the anus. You can easily get an hour for 1000 Baht on the balls sacks. As for a "definite technique", no girl does it the same as any other, so it is always a new experience. You would just have to try it and see if you like it. Or ask and teach her to do it the way you want.

Giotto
02-11-08, 07:13
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Wanted to meet Giotto at his place and was able to walk to his hotel around 4:15, by the time I got to his place and went inside which I saw a group around the bar and another small group near the pool the knee was starting to swell which put me in a real bad mood. I remember seeing his face before looked around didn't see him so took off, so sorry Giotto.
...
LittleBigMan,

I think that time we were sitting at a table close to the hotel bar - with 4 other members from the ISG! Oh man, bad luck, would have really been fun if you had joined the club yesterday ... guys here from all over the world.

Next time! :)


Giotto

Cunning Stunt
02-11-08, 20:19
Wonder if any member had come across this mature MILF who goes under the name of hot nid! Come across her on an escort site.

For some reason (I'm not an especial MILF man) she rings my bells. Must be the big knocker and flappy labs. Plus she does the full monty. Was thinking about setting up a meeting on my next trip.

Cheers for any info.

AsiaTraveler2
02-12-08, 07:49
Hello All, Staying at the Citichic Hotel Feb 19th to 22nd.

Will welcome other mongers to get together for a drink or trolling.

Would like to check out some high end place like Pent Executive Club or similar with experienced local mongerers.

Bounce,

Have fun! Be sure to scope out the back bar, past the pool area.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
02-12-08, 08:37
I went back to Hana Massage to Rin for the special balls massage. My last experience was that it was amazing and revitalized me in a way that I cannot believe. I found that it helped the quality of my erections for weeks after and also felt really good while it was going on.

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My session of 90 mins cost 1300 which I thought was still great for the quality of the experience.

Does anybody know of other provider who know how to do the balls massage in BKK? There must be others who actually do have some definite technique on this.

Alroy,

Ogoto massage has it on their menu. Of course, alot of places have jumped on the bandwagon, and having it on the menu does not guarantee the real deal. The girl I had was cute, but not very skilled, at least with the balls massage. Her name was Donut. Had fun though and heard of good experiences by others. Some have suggested Naree as a skilled provider. I had Rin a few years back and just saw her in August. Her looks have never been to my taste and unfortunately, my last visit with her in August was decent but uninspired. I was her last customer, and it could have been a long day. If I recall, it was only 1K baht, so all in all not a bad deal.

Ogoto is near the Saladaeng Station and worth a look. Avoid MMU-One massage on Suk Soi 22. They advertise the balls massage, but the selection and service suck.

AT2

Francesco24
02-12-08, 10:45
I've been to BKK for 10 days last month.

Just some comments about prices:

Rainbow and Rainbow 4 at NEP quotes 2000ST/4000LT + BF (at least for cute girls)
Also i wandered in many gogo in Soi Cowboy and the going rate was 3000LT +BF
Nana parking girls (cute ones) about 1000ST (30-40 minutes)

Are these prices the standard now? or the end of January is still part of high season?
Last August it was easy to find nice girls for 2000LT in soi cowboy.

Richo Stevens
02-12-08, 11:00
Wonder if any member had come across this mature MILF who goes under the name of hot nid! Come across her on an escort site.

For some reason (I'm not an especial MILF man) she rings my bells. Must be the big knocker and flappy labs. Plus she does the full monty. Was thinking about setting up a meeting on my next trip.

Cheers for any info.Are you for real? Grannies like this can be had for free in any any any country in the world - often you would get pretty well paid just to see them naked. My god your mind is twisted.

Daddy San
02-12-08, 16:11
Wonder if any member had come across this mature MILF who goes under the name of hot nid! Come across her on an escort site.

For some reason (I'm not an especial MILF man) she rings my bells. Must be the big knocker and flappy labs. Plus she does the full monty. Was thinking about setting up a meeting on my next trip.

Cheers for any info.

Hi Gamahucher,

she rings my bell too.
Would you mind sharing her contact info.

thanks

Daddy San

Daddy San
02-12-08, 16:38
Daddy San,

I'm assuming you are going to BKK for the 1st time and hence the question. If I'm wrong, my appologies.

--snip--

AT2

Hi AT2,

thanks for your extensive answer and please accept my apologies for my belated reaction.

The real, though unarticulated motive for my original query about the BG prices was the following:

My understanding was, that barfines vary from say 400 -1000 THB and that many of you complain, that they have risen beyond reason in recent years.

Well now, it seems that at Livingstone's, the BF is 1500++ THB, which, from a distance, I found out of proportion, unless the LL BGs had gilt pussies AND paraded them in the Sports Lounge.

In the meantime, I have read Giotto's rationale for the high BF and since he is the pimp (as he calls himself), it's his call anyway.

I'll be in BKK next week and will have a look if those pussies deliver what he promises.

Daddy San

AsiaTraveler2
02-12-08, 18:25
Hi AT2,

thanks for your extensive answer and please accept my apologies for my belated reaction.

The real, though unarticulated motive for my original query about the BG prices was the following:

My understanding was, that barfines vary from say 400 -1000 THB and that many of you complain, that they have risen beyond reason in recent years.

Well now, it seems that at Livingstone's, the BF is 1500++ THB, which, from a distance, I found out of proportion, unless the LL BGs had gilt pussies AND paraded them in the Sports Lounge.

In the meantime, I have read Giotto's rationale for the high BF and since he is the pimp (as he calls himself), it's his call anyway.

I'll be in BKK next week and will have a look if those pussies deliver what he promises.

Daddy San

Daddy San,

I see. The barfines range from 400 to 600 in general, and I would not be surprised to see them creep up a bit in 2008. The Soi 33 bars, which Livingstones competes with, are higher and go up to 1,500 THB. I could never buy the rationale, since the girls are basically the same. Nicer dressed in some of the bars, but better?

They do charge more for drinks and such, and you are paying for the ambiance. It could be argued, when they lose a girl to the customer for the night, it costs the bar more from that standpoint. Also, if you are staying at Livingstones and barfine one of G's girls, then you don't pay the taxi and drinks during an evenings hunt and that might make up some of the difference.

I still like Soi 33 for the change that it offers, and obviously the business model works. Most of the key bars and of course Livingstones have been there a long time. Seems like many of the regular's just made return visits or are about to.

Have fun!
AT2

Giotto
02-12-08, 18:41
...
Well now, it seems that at Livingstone's, the BF is 1500++ THB, which, from a distance, I found out of proportion, unless the LL BGs had gilt pussies AND paraded them in the Sports Lounge.
...
Daddy San,

Barfines at Livingstone's are THB 1,500 (no ++) until 11 pm, THB 1,000 afterwards.

You find all kinds of barfine models in the road (Soi 33), but it is in general more expensive than in Soi Cowboy or Soi Nana (barfine THB 600). In Renoir the barfine is now up to THB 1,800, THB 2,500 for receptionists and even higher for some special girls (Mamasan etc. ). In Monet the barfine was THB 1,580 (all night long) when I was there last time, but higher on the weekends. In the Office Bar the bar fine is THB 1,200 all night long.

And then there are still those "high class" clubs here in Bangkok where the barfines are much higher :) .


Giotto

Globoid
02-12-08, 19:02
Maybe a very stupid question from a "almost newbie"

Barfine a receptionist and Mamasan? Is that possible anywhere or just some special places?

Sean EZ
02-12-08, 20:14
And then there are still those "high class" clubs here in Bangkok where the barfines are much higher :) .
Giotto

Hi Giotto, what are those "high class" clubs? Does that mean quality also? Thanks.

Giotto
02-12-08, 20:21
Hi Giotto, what are those "high class" clubs? Does that mean quality also? Thanks.Sean EZ,

Pegasus Club, Forte, G-Club, Caribean, Tango - there are so many, and I am also not sure whether all mentioned clubs still exist. I don't go there often.

Quality - what is quality? If you are looking for sexual experience and techniques I think you are always better off in massage parlours - and you can save a lot of money. If you are looking for stunners you might find some younger and more beautiful girls there, but you can also be lucky in Rainbow 4 in Soi Nana. Furthermore beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Then many of those "high class" clubs are catering for Asian customers, local Thais, and their idea about a stunner can be different from ours.

To be honest - I cannot answer your question.


Giotto

Cunning Stunt
02-12-08, 22:24
Are you for real? Grannies like this can be had for free in any any any country in the world - often you would get pretty well paid just to see them naked. My god your mind is twisted.Course its twisted, why otherwise would I be on this site communicating with morons like you. Lots of guys prefer the older, more mature women who have the experience and know how that young 'uns haven't learned yet and are great for a change in pace. Not a particular mature MILF fan myself (as I mentioned) but this one looks a goer and I'd love to dress her up as a schoolmarm and play a few long buried fantasies with her. Now that is twisted!

For Daddy San. Dunno her contact details but you will find her on Escorttown. Post a report if you happen to try her out.

AsiaTraveler2
02-13-08, 06:57
Sean EZ,

Pegasus Club, Forte, G-Club, Caribean, Tango - there are so many, and I am also not sure whether all mentioned clubs still exist. I don't go there often.

Quality - what is quality? If you are looking for sexual experience and techniques I think you are always better off in massage parlours - and you can save a lot of money. If you are looking for stunners you might find some younger and more beautiful girls there, but you can also be lucky in Rainbow 4 in Soi Nana. Furthermore beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Then many of those "high class" clubs are catering for Asian customers, local Thais, and their idea about a stunner can be different from ours.

To be honest - I cannot answer your question.


Giotto

Sean EZ,

Of those Giotto mentioned, I would suggest Forte, G-Club, Caribbean Dance Club as good options to check out. To that, I would add the Pent and Hollywood Club. All of these places are more Thai/Asian crowds predominently, so keep that in mind, and like Giotto says .. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They fall under the Gentlemen's, Members club, Coyote club umbrella. You gotta earn the girls, so to speak and it's not like Nana, Soi Cowboy or Patpong. A slightly different scene. I heard good things about Piano, but have not been there.

Like anywhere in BKK, things go in cycles and of course timing is everything. I think these places are worth a look, since they usually have their share of head turners. Google them or You-Tube em' to get a picture in your head.

AT2

Giotto
02-13-08, 07:11
...
Barfine a receptionist and Mamasan? Is that possible anywhere or just some special places?Globoid,

It is NOT generally possible anywhere. It depends on the place. And in most places you definitely dont't WANT to barfine a Mamasan :) ...


Giotto

Dirty Tom
02-13-08, 07:16
Hello,

Does someone know how long it takes for your bags to arrive at the arrival concourse at BKK airport at midnight time of the day?

Just an estimate is good...

-R.

Tall Tom
02-13-08, 07:22
Hello,

Does someone know how long it takes for your bags to arrive at the arrival concourse at BKK airport at midnight time of the day?

Just an estimate is good.

-R.10-15 minutes. They are usually there by the time you get through Passport/Immigration.

Giotto
02-13-08, 07:25
...
Does someone know how long it takes for your bags to arrive at the arrival concourse at BKK airport at midnight time of the day?
...Rbamane,

The last few times when I came into Bangkok I did not wait longer than 10 min. for my luggage. Sometimes I could immediately pick it up after passing the immigration / passport control. Service has clearly improved in this area.


Giotto

Daddy07
02-13-08, 07:26
Hello,

Does someone know how long it takes for your bags to arrive at the arrival concourse at BKK airport at midnight time of the day?

Just an estimate is good...

-R.
By the time you clear immigration, your bag should be there waiting for you.

NicFrenchy
02-13-08, 07:33
Hello,

Does someone know how long it takes for your bags to arrive at the arrival concourse at BKK airport at midnight time of the day?

Just an estimate is good...

-R.I estimate anywhere between 3 and 7 minutes from the time you arrive in front of the belt.

Rbamane, your questions are really entertaining, I can't wait to see what question you will be coming up with next.

AsiaTraveler2
02-13-08, 08:07
Hello,

Does someone know how long it takes for your bags to arrive at the arrival concourse at BKK airport at midnight time of the day?

Just an estimate is good...

-R.

Rbamane,

It will take about 20 minutes to clear immigration/passport control, if you arrive around midnite (usually about when I arrive) and your bags should be there waiting for you, give or take 5 minutes. Since I usually land around 10pm to 11pm, I have a somewhat set routine on the 1st night. Get through immigration/passport control, get some baht, head to the taxi, check in to the hotel and try to get someone quick at Nana or Soi Cowboy, depending on how much time I have and which hotel I'm at.

Do the ST (Short-time) thing, get a few hours sleep, and wake up about 4am or 5am due to the time zone thing. Just can't sleep on that first night. I go to Sabai Sabai (24/7 oily massage place) for an early morning massage and hj, and go back to sleep for a few more hours. They also do take out. Next morning on, anything goes! It's BKK!

AT2

LittleBigMan
02-13-08, 09:00
Giotto,

Yes, I was thinking the same that the guys sitting there were most likely ISG members. Didn't take a good look, wasn't even going to come down Soi 33, but make a good attempt. But by the time I came in I was so mad at myself I was no longer in a socializing mood. Hopefully when in August, I can come by if the wife doesn't ride along to the Airport like last time I''ll be able come by.

LBM

Dirty Tom
02-13-08, 09:02
Thanks AT2 and others for the replies.

Thanks AT2 for sharing your routine... I am in BKK only till the next afternoon and was planning to visit the floating market in the morning ... is it worth it or would you rather do Sabai Sabai :) ?

I do come back for couple nights after 2 weeks - the weekend of 29 Feb though....

-R.



Rbamane,

It will take about 20 minutes to clear immigration/passport control, if you arrive around midnite (usually about when I arrive) and your bags should be there waiting for you, give or take 5 minutes. Since I usually land around 10pm to 11pm, I have a somewhat set routine on the 1st night. Get through immigration/passport control, get some baht, head to the taxi, check in to the hotel and try to get someone quick at Nana or Soi Cowboy, depending on how much time I have and which hotel I'm at.

Do the ST (Short-time) thing, get a few hours sleep, and wake up about 4am or 5am due to the time zone thing. Just can't sleep on that first night. I go to Sabai Sabai (24/7 oily massage place) for an early morning massage and hj, and go back to sleep for a few more hours. They also do take out. Next morning, anything goes! It's BKK!

AT2

Bounce Around
02-13-08, 09:16
Bounce,

Have fun! Be sure to scope out the back bar, past the pool area.

AT2Thanks for the info; and your other posts. I am looking forward to the trip and was also getting quite a sticker shock issue similar to Daddy San; because my next stop is China, and the mongering there is cheaper, though obviously quality/service is different (not good or bad, just culturally different).

I picked the hotel based on forum members; was a bit reluctant of Livingstones, though obviously he has a nice niche and being active on the forum helps; unlike the china forums i don't see many price hike or over paying flamming on this forum, because i guess a lot of BSDs come to Thailand and supply/demand issues are different... Being a forum oriented service provider i'm sure he keeps things competitive. will try to check his place out.

Paying 4000LT plus bar fine which is i guess the high end of the reported range in this forum i think is too much, so i guess i'll just be going to Soi 33 for a look; Paying that much for a good soapie and bed slide would be acceptable i guess.

Can get a lot of fair skinned girls in China, though the Thai fair skin seems nice as well; personally looking forward to some of the darker girls.

If you are going to be around, do drop a line, maybe we can meet up.

FreebieFan
02-13-08, 09:39
Well I can't tell you about the time to get your bag if you are on a late night flight but two sundays ago I arrived at about lunchtime. I had a hot date waiting to be met and I happily strolled up the short ramp before customs. To be greeted by a queue of thousands. Every line was totally jammed. I selected the "shortest" line that had over 65 people in it. I counted.

And of course it was the line with the trainee customs person. Its always the trainee whatever line you select.

It took 90 minutes to get thru!

But, I arrived at the carousel expecting to pick up my bag and be gone. I saw people waiting for their bags looking very frustrated. Then the carousel started.

Sure enough, the plane had been parked a long long way away and it had also taken 90 minutes for bags to get sorted and placed on carousel.

Maybe it was a rare off day. Or a Sunday. Or whatever but when you have a hot date waiting in BKK and your stuck in the airport at Customs, 90minutes can seem an eternity!

Globoid
02-13-08, 09:52
Thank you, Giotto

Just got scared on second ;-). Saw one Mamasan out in Bangna one time that was a 9 or 10, but didn´t ask for her. Not far from Novotel Bangna Hotell as I remember. Next time I will at least try if I see some I like.

GoodEnough
02-13-08, 12:22
Guys:

Will be back in Bangkok in April for a couple of nights after an absence of two years. It's a town that I used to know quite well, but my knowledge is dated and probably irrelevant now. I will be staying in the area around Patpong and, as I only have two days, will probably not travel around very much. Any new bars on Patpong 1 or 2 that haven't been reported on here?

Thanks,

GE

Giotto
02-13-08, 19:41
...
I picked the hotel based on forum members; was a bit reluctant of Livingstones, though obviously he has a nice niche and being active on the forum helps; unlike the china forums i don't see many price hike or over paying flamming on this forum, because i guess a lot of BSDs come to Thailand and supply/demand issues are different... Being a forum oriented service provider i'm sure he keeps things competitive. will try to check his place out.

Paying 4000LT plus bar fine which is i guess the high end of the reported range in this forum i think is too much, so i guess i'll just be going to Soi 33 for a look; Paying that much for a good soapie and bed slide would be acceptable i guess.
...
Bounce Around,

Don't worry too much about Soi 33 and the prices! Livingstone's Lodge is mainly a hotel, the Sports Lounge is just an add-on to this hotel. If you like it or other bars in Soi 33 - go there. But if you prefer Soi Cowboy or Soi Nana - it is just 10 min. from here with a taxi.

It is up to you what kind of entertainment you prefer. Some of our customers staying here never step into the Sports Lounge. That's absolutely ok!


Giotto

Giotto
02-13-08, 20:24
...
Just got scared on second ;-). Saw one Mamasan out in Bangna one time that was a 9 or 10, but didn´t ask for her. Not far from Novotel Bangna Hotell as I remember. Next time I will at least try if I see some I like.Globoid,

Go ahead, try it out - and let us know the outcome :) !


Giotto

Giotto
02-13-08, 20:42
...
your questions are really entertaining, I can't wait to see what question you will be coming up with next.NicFrenchy,

We had that already :) ... you are obviously stressed. Go to an Oil Massage Place, relax, and give us a detailed report afterwards :)!

Or just come in for a beer or two, the Sports Lounge is smoke-free now :):):).


Giotto

Headhunter2000
02-13-08, 20:49
Will be back in Bangkok in April for a couple of nights after an absence of two years. It's a town that I used to know quite well, but my knowledge is dated and probably irrelevant now. I will be staying in the area around Patpong and, as I only have two days, will probably not travel around very much. Any new bars on Patpong 1 or 2 that haven't been reported on here?I think you will find that Bangkok has not changed as much in the last two years as you may think. The best bar in Patpong is probably still "Electric Blue" since it is one of few bars in Patpong that doesn't suffer from an over-abundance of ladyboys and pushy mamasans. I also think that "Star of Light" is the best blowjob bar in Bangkok. The price is 700 baht for BJ only or 1,000 baht for full service.

There are a couple of fairly new bars near Electric Blue, but they don't appear very interesting to me. And there are still all of the King's Castle and Queen's Castle bars--some of these are 100% ladyboys and some are a mixture of ladyboys and real girls. I can never remember which is which, so I just avoid them all and go to the smaller, quieter bars that have real girls.

And obviously you already know to ignore the touts on the street who try to take you upstairs to see the "ping pong show" or "sex show". Most of the upstairs bars are clip joints that survive by ripping off un-informed tourists.

That's all I know about Patpong. I am far from an expert, so maybe someone else on here can chime in if there are any more recommended bars in the area.

Robbaf
02-14-08, 04:29
It took 90 minutes to get thru!Wow, 90 minutes, you were lucky. It took me 120 minutes and I stood there thinking how much I miss the Philippines. At least in the Philippines they have lines and there is some sort of order. In BKK, it seemed like everyone just moved up until they arrived at the counter. On arrival the flight attendent said what section to go to, but I didn't hear right and I think I went to the wrong area.

Dirty Tom
02-14-08, 04:45
Rbamane, your questions are really entertaining, I can't wait to see what question you will be coming up with next.

Thanks, I am usually a very creative person!

Sean EZ
02-14-08, 05:20
Sean EZ,

Of those Giotto mentioned, I would suggest Forte, G-Club, Caribbean Dance Club as good options to check out. To that, I would add the Pent and Hollywood Club. All of these places are more Thai/Asian crowds predominently, so keep that in mind, and like Giotto says .. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They fall under the Gentlemen's, Members club, Coyote club umbrella. You gotta earn the girls, so to speak and it's not like Nana, Soi Cowboy or Patpong. A slightly different scene. I heard good things about Piano, but have not been there.

Like anywhere in BKK, things go in cycles and of course timing is everything. I think these places are worth a look, since they usually have their share of head turners. Google them or You-Tube em' to get a picture in your head.

AT2


Sean EZ,

Pegasus Club, Forte, G-Club, Caribean, Tango - there are so many, and I am also not sure whether all mentioned clubs still exist. I don't go there often.

Quality - what is quality? If you are looking for sexual experience and techniques I think you are always better off in massage parlours - and you can save a lot of money. If you are looking for stunners you might find some younger and more beautiful girls there, but you can also be lucky in Rainbow 4 in Soi Nana. Furthermore beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Then many of those "high class" clubs are catering for Asian customers, local Thais, and their idea about a stunner can be different from ours.

To be honest - I cannot answer your question.


Giotto

Thank you very much for your responses gentlemen. By quality I meant stunners. Some of the places you mentioned have annual membership fees. Giotto, you mentioned Nana Disco in your earlier reports, is it worth a visit?

Giotto
02-14-08, 05:40
By quality I meant stunners. Some of the places you mentioned have annual membership fees. Giotto, you mentioned Nana Disco in your earlier reports, is it worth a visit?Sean EZ,

In my POV it is definitely NOT worth a visit. But - in Bangkok you can be lucky everywhere - and find a stunner even there. But highly unlikely.

For me being stunning has not only to do with the look but also with how a woman carries herself, her behavior, general style, the way she communicates etc. etc. . This girls you will definitely NOT find there.


Giotto

AsiaTraveler2
02-14-08, 07:13
Thank you very much for your responses gentlemen. By quality I meant stunners. Some of the places you mentioned have annual membership fees. Giotto, you mentioned Nana Disco in your earlier reports, is it worth a visit?

Sean EZ,

That's what I meant. There are some stunners there for me, but others might feel otherwise, and that's why Giotto and I said beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you need any proof, see the pic thread. Of course, every night is different and a YMMV situation. Like anywhere else there's a mix of 6's and 7's and if you are lucky a few stunners. What you won't see, are many 3's and 4's like you do everywhere else. See the link. Pics 2, 3 and 5 are the type you might find at Forte, G-Club, Caribbean Dance Club, Hollywood and the last pic reminds me of one of the girls I met at the Pent.

You do not need to buy a membership, so don't let that scare you off. But do expect to pay 1.5K to 2K baht for drinks (yours and the girls) and the girls time during 2 hours at a place like the Pent. You need to get the girls number and work out the details with her for an after work hours hookup. No guarantees in these places. You might be able to get one of them for 2K baht and maybe not.

Pics (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=699751#post699751)

I found that the value of the posts and reviews are that they highlight places you may want to try. But the bottom line is you need to try them for yourself, since tastes vary way to much to depend on reviews alone. In that post that I linked, I was a little ticked by all the price and ratings talk, because it's such a useless debate. So excuse the rant.

By the way, it's easy enough to find these places, check them out and still get back to Soi Cowboy or NEP if you don't find anything you like or don't like the concepts.

Peace,
AT2

AsiaTraveler2
02-14-08, 07:22
Wow, 90 minutes, you were lucky. It took me 120 minutes and I stood there thinking how much I miss the Philippines. At least in the Philippines they have lines and there is some sort of order. In BKK, it seemed like everyone just moved up until they arrived at the counter. On arrival the flight attendent said what section to go to, but I didn't hear right and I think I went to the wrong area.

Damn! What time of the day did you guys get in? I have never had to wait more than 30 minutes in BKK. Tops for me, was a 60 minute queue in Tokyo.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
02-14-08, 07:44
Thanks for the info; and your other posts. I am looking forward to the trip and was also getting quite a sticker shock issue similar to Daddy San; because my next stop is China, and the mongering there is cheaper, though obviously quality/service is different (not good or bad, just culturally different).

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Paying 4000LT plus bar fine which is i guess the high end of the reported range in this forum i think is too much, so i guess i'll just be going to Soi 33 for a look; Paying that much for a good soapie and bed slide would be acceptable i guess.

Can get a lot of fair skinned girls in China, though the Thai fair skin seems nice as well; personally looking forward to some of the darker girls.

If you are going to be around, do drop a line, maybe we can meet up.

Don't worry about the sticker shock. There's a lot of action to be had for 2,000 baht and below. Lots! Even in the Soapies, there's a good selection for 1,700 to 2,400 baht in many of them. Nataree, Colonze II, and Catherine are all good value spots.

Obviously, China at this point is cheaper and it can be fun. BKK is much more in your face, and offers a different vibe. I also think the sheer number of different types of venues and options add to the fun.

I don't have any dates lined up yet, but I do want to get to BKK no later than July if possible. When are you going to be there?

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
02-14-08, 08:27
Thanks AT2 and others for the replies.

Thanks AT2 for sharing your routine... I am in BKK only till the next afternoon and was planning to visit the floating market in the morning ... is it worth it or would you rather do Sabai Sabai :) ?

I do come back for couple nights after 2 weeks - the weekend of 29 Feb though....

-R.

Rbamane,

I must say, you do make me laugh. Hey, if you need the floating market thing as a cover story for the wife or GF back home, or if your balls would just burst if you did not do the tourist thing, then do it. Now, knowing you only have one night, I might suggest another itinerary. One that might give you a better head start on your next visit the weekend of Feb 29th.

If you can get to your hotel and check in by midnight, and get a quick shower. I would suggest going to Soi Cowboy and hope that you catch the bars before they close. Take a taxi, so you don't waste time. Traffic should not be gridlock as it is during primetime hours. Find a girl with a good personality for LT and who would not mind riding around. This is optional and you can take a chance that you find a freelancer later.

Take a cab from Soi Cowboy down to NEP and on the way, have the girl or cab driver point out Asoke station as a point of reference. That's the station you will use on your return visit to see one of the Soapy's (MRT Subway and not the BTS Skytrain). When you end up at NEP, walk around the area and soak in the vibe, check out the Nana car park, watch the last remants of the Nana disco crowd, pick up some food in the Nana Coffee shop or from any of the food carts that liter the area. People watch.

Take a cab over to Soi 11 and if you see the 7-11 across the Ambassador hotel, Sabai Sabai is right behind it. It's a dark lane, so not so comforting to walk back there for a newbie in the early hours. Since you have the girl in tow, I'm just pointing it out, in case you do need a plan B, C or D. In the Ambassador to the left of the lobby area, there's an after hours club called Spice and that is open till 4am. It's in the basement/parking garage level and not lobby level. There's a staircase that they rope off, but there's usually someone there that will let you in/down. You may not get much sleep, but you can always do that on the plane. The Tunnel Club, I hear, is also open after hours sometimes. I have not gone there during those times, so I'm only going by what I have heard on that one.

About 3am, take the girl back to the hotel with you and time for fun! Of course, if she starts getting antsy early, you may want to scrap all of the above and get straight to business. Get up early in the morning and go to the floating market if you choose. Don't fall asleep and fall into the water. But if you do, please give us a full report! (Joke). If you get done early enough or if your flight is late enough in the afternoon, you may just have time to catch a massage at Tulip, Thonglor, Akane or Angels.

The contingency plan, if you get in too late, would be to hit the NEP area and see if you can catch a freelancer or go to Sabai Sabai and do a take out. If not, I'm sure Giotto will save a girl or two for you.

AT2

Dirty Tom
02-14-08, 10:16
I must say, you do make me laugh. Hey, if you need the floating market thing as a cover story for the wife or GF back home...

You got it right - I do need it as a cover story and some for my touristy-curiosity.



If you can get to your hotel and check in by midnight, ...

I land at midnight, so I think I will have to follow your late-arrival plan.



People watch.

I love doing that!



Take a cab over to Soi 11 and if you see the 7-11 across the Ambassador hotel, Sabai Sabai is right behind it. It's a dark lane, so not so comforting to walk back there for a newbie in the early hours.

This certainly helps, even if I come here later :)



Don't fall asleep and fall into the water. But if you do, please give us a full report! (Joke).

Now you made me laugh, you have a funny sense of humor!



If you get done early enough or if your flight is late enough in the afternoon, you may just have time to catch a massage at Tulip, Thonglor, Akane or Angels.

From the reports, Akane and Tulip have interested me - so mebbe I'll checkout one of these...



The contingency plan, if you get in too late, would be to hit the NEP area and see if you can catch a freelancer or go to Sabai Sabai and do a take out.

Looks like this is what I may have to do, of course I will consult the Lord himself - Lord Giotto!

BTW, does Sabai Sabai also have a fishbowl (like others) for take out?



I'm sure Giotto will save a girl or two for you.

Thanks Giotto!

Giotto
02-14-08, 11:57
...
Looks like this is what I may have to do, of course I will consult the Lord himself - Lord Giotto!
...
Rbamane,

Oh my god, the next title - LORD! How will all this end :) ...

Just for information to everybody, and because I get a lot of PMs about this issue:

I generally do NOT select a girl for a customer and let her wait for a late arrival. If it is possible we keep the bar open a bit longer, that a customer who is arriving late can still go there and meet some girls. But that is all what I can do. And if it is too late - sorry, there is a certain time when all the customers and girls have left, and then the bar will be closed.


Giotto

Infomatic
02-14-08, 12:14
Don't worry about the sticker shock. There's a lot of action to be had for 2,000 baht and below. Lots! Even in the Soapies, there's a good selection for 1,700 to 2,400 baht in many of them. Nataree, Colonze II, and Catherine are all good value spots.

Obviously, China at this point is cheaper and it can be fun. BKK is much more in your face, and offers a different vibe. I also think the sheer number of different types of venues and options add to the fun.

I don't have any dates lined up yet, but I do want to get to BKK no later than July if possible. When are you going to be there?

AT2I'm not an EXPERT on the Chinese market like some here; however, I have lived in China from 2004 to 2008. I am yet to find a soapy-bed-massage, 2 girls in Guangdong or Beijing. Going for 2000 Baht = 486RMB like in BKK. [1RMB=4. 11Baht]

Chinese girls are plain ugly comparing to Thai. No doubt! Then, they can't fuck. Or blow. No service at all, and were born without a smile.comparing China with Thailand is like comparing an ugly rock to a diamond.

So far, best money value in BKK is "The Eden", tel Bruce that Lou (another French) recommended you the place.

Dream world? Thai you want to marry? "Pegasus" in THE place!

Dreams
02-14-08, 12:20
Well I can't tell you about the time to get your bag if you are on a late night flight but two sundays ago I arrived at about lunchtime. I had a hot date waiting to be met and I happily strolled up the short ramp before customs. To be greeted by a queue of thousands. Every line was totally jammed. I selected the "shortest" line that had over 65 people in it. I counted.

And of course it was the line with the trainee customs person. Its always the trainee whatever line you select.

It took 90 minutes to get thru!

But, I arrived at the carousel expecting to pick up my bag and be gone. I saw people waiting for their bags looking very frustrated. Then the carousel started.

Sure enough, the plane had been parked a long long way away and it had also taken 90 minutes for bags to get sorted and placed on carousel.

Maybe it was a rare off day. Or a Sunday. Or whatever but when you have a hot date waiting in BKK and your stuck in the airport at Customs, 90minutes can seem an eternity!
I had the same dreadful experience arriving around the same time, 12 am, on a normal weekday in January.. seems that they do not have enough staff at immigration, which is a pity for such a new airport. I saw a lot of "ordinary", I mean non-monger, tourists very frustrated by their first contact with the so called LOS. Noone smiled.. But, as always, once you are through and your mongering activiteis starts, everything is forgotten.. But if I have a choice, i'll try to arrive at night next time, and follow AT2 routine which looks great...

Infomatic
02-14-08, 12:21
Paying more than 1200 Baht for one shot in BKK, is totally stupid, unless the girls is a real stunner.

I pulled this gorgeous little model from Pegasus, kept her all night = 2000 Baht.
We are now friends, and she comes back once or twice a week for the whole night = 1000 baht. A true stunner, and real good at it.

Sex wise, I am not shy to say that I have never -ever - tipped anyone.

Petemcc
02-14-08, 12:59
I had the same dreadful experience arriving around the same time, 12 am, on a normal weekday in January.. seems that they do not have enough staff at immigration, which is a pity for such a new airport. I saw a lot of "ordinary", I mean non-monger, tourists very frustrated by their first contact with the so called LOS. Noone smiled.. But, as always, once you are through and your mongering activiteis starts, everything is forgotten.. But if I have a choice, i'll try to arrive at night next time, and follow AT2 routine which looks great...

How true. All those European and Eastern European starry-eyed visitors having to stand for hours to get in, then get to their destination, and then look at temples and elephants. Poor bastards. I on the other hand queue, get my pre-arranged taxi to Pattaya for 800 baht, and 2 hours later I am up to my nuts in guts. It's tiresome queuing, but the rewards are huge.

Pete

Ibeme
02-14-08, 16:18
I always arrive sometime between 11-12 pm coming from the States. If you walk fast (ie, faster than the rest of your flight) you will be the first or second person in line at passport control. They usually have 6-8 lanes open and it goes very fast compared to some other airports I've seen. I've waited over 2 1/2 hrs in the "cattle chutes" at Heathrow before with only 3 agents working and one of those left for lunch! (a riot almost ensued when the 3rd agent left and some Australian guys went berserk)

I've never experienced any of the midday problems at night. You are thru immigration, customs, get your luggage, change some money and get a cab in under 30 minutes. Maybe the one benefit of arriving late.

AsiaTraveler2
02-14-08, 16:46
BTW, does Sabai Sabai also have a fishbowl (like others) for take out?


Rbamane,

Sabai Sabai does not have a fishbowl. It's an oil massage place. You will most likely have a small selection of girls at that time of the night, so look for a freelancer first. Sabai Sabai provides an oil massage and hj on premises. They have 20 or more girls during the day, but very few between 2am and 8am. Some, but not all, of the girls provide FS when they go to your hotel. It's mostly a backup plan as a 24/7 option.

The freelancer route is better, since you get to choose, and of course FS is the norm. If you can get to Soi Cowboy by 2:00am, you can see what's still around and if not make your way to NEP and see what's left there. Girls who have not hooked up, hang around for a bit (eat, see if they get lucky, etc.). If you run into the 90 to 120 minute nightmare at immigration that the other posters described, that would be a pity. Has it really gotten that bad at the new airport recently or were they describing the lines when it first opened?

By the way .. I was joking with the Giotto line. Don't want to get him in trouble with a bunch of guys ordering girls via e-mail for a early morning pickup! Sorry G!

AT2

Dirty Tom
02-14-08, 17:44
Giotto,

Do not worry - I am cool about stuff like this and I do respect your rules for your customers and the gals.

I'll see you soon.

Happy Valentines!

-R.



Rbamane,

Oh my god, the next title - LORD! How will all this end :) ...

Just for information to everybody, and because I get a lot of PMs about this issue:

I generally do NOT select a girl for a customer and let her wait for a late arrival. If it is possible we keep the bar open a bit longer, that a customer who is arriving late can still go there and meet some girls. But that is all what I can do. And if it is too late - sorry, there is a certain time when all the customers and girls have left, and then the bar will be closed.


Giotto

Hk Dog
02-15-08, 02:48
Sean EZ,

In my POV it is definitely NOT worth a visit. But - in Bangkok you can be lucky everywhere - and find a stunner even there. But highly unlikely.

For me being stunning has not only to do with the look but also with how a woman carries herself, her behavior, general style, the way she communicates etc. etc. . This girls you will definitely NOT find there.


Giotto


I have been popping my head into NANA disco whenever I am in BKK for over 10 yrs now. On occassions I have run into girls that I would classify as 'stunners' (and if you knew me you would know my standards are a bit high). Some of these girls 'graduated' and moved onto the international circuit (i.e working in Hong Kong and Singapore) and guys pay 2-300 USD ST to be with them. To be successful in the international scene you can't be a country bumpkin.

Evil Penivel
02-15-08, 06:16
The last day (and installment) of my trip report. It will make more sense if you've read the previous parts before tackling this one. As always, the pages should be read in order - it begins with B001 (no A001), C001, D001, etc.

Here's the link to Part 3 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=703316&postcount=1260) and it has links to Part 1 and Part 2.

Five days after I returned to the U.S., I began planning my next trip to LOS. I'll be back for two weeks in March.

Evil

Friar Tuck
02-15-08, 09:29
Paying more than 1200 Baht for one shot in BKK, is totally stupid, unless the girls is a real stunner.

I pulled this gorgeous little model from Pegasus, kept her all night = 2000 Baht.
We are now friends, and she comes back once or twice a week for the whole night = 1000 baht. A true stunner, and real good at it.

Sex wise, I am not shy to say that I have never -ever - tipped anyone.Couldn't agree more.

Pricing is getting out of hand. My regular TG who is no stunner is pulling up to 2500ST, sometimes for less than 30 minutes in the room!?

2 out of 5 punters don't have FS, many just want a lady to take to gogo joints to make selections easier. WTF?

Lets keep the prices down and reward performance with tips, so they get the idea.

Tuck

PinkPearl
02-15-08, 09:49
Paying more than 1200 Baht for one shot in BKK, is totally stupid, unless the girls is a real stunner.

I pulled this gorgeous little model from Pegasus, kept her all night = 2000 Baht.
We are now friends, and she comes back once or twice a week for the whole night = 1000 baht. A true stunner, and real good at it.

Sex wise, I am not shy to say that I have never -ever - tipped anyone.I have found what I feel are hot ladies on the street around the NEP area for 1000 to 1200 Baht. But whether or not these would be considered as "stunners" is a matter of definition and taste. While not perfect, I'd grade them as 8 to 9 out of a possible 10 in looks. Service and attitude, though is another matter.

Friar Tuck
02-15-08, 10:35
To pick up on a comment from a few days ago,

Why are punters paying 2.5K for ST?
ST is 1 - 1.5K in BKK.

My regular TG is no stunner, maybe a 5. She is getting up to 2.5K for less than 30 minutes actual room time. WTF is going on gentlemen?

Sure, she is great in bed, but customers are agreeing to these rates before leaving the bar.

The less she likes the look of someone, the more she ups the rate.....and often gets it.
She was barfined 24 times in January and sent 50K home to the family!

Keep the rates low for christ's sake, tip for good performances which should suit everyone.

Arghhhh!

Tuck

Infomatic
02-15-08, 15:14
Rachada is boring to death. In the meaning of streetwalkers. Anyone knowing better in the Rachada area?

Robbaf
02-15-08, 15:39
Damn! What time of the day did you guys get in? I have never had to wait more than 30 minutes in BKK. Tops for me, was a 60 minute queue in Tokyo.AT2I arrived on a Saturday in Jan at 1300. I just left Bangkok yesterday and it took me 6 minutes to get through to leave. They had 5 agents working. I guess they want us to leave fast, but they know no matter how long we wait on arrival, we still have time to spend our money.
My last night was awesome, my Thai contractor took me out to Patpong and showed me some awesome spots.

I will post a FR (with pics) soon.

After 25 days in Thailand, I need to rest.

Robb

Satrai2000
02-15-08, 15:52
Chinese girls are plain ugly comparing to Thai. No doubt! Then, they can't fuck. Or blow. No service at all, and were born without a smile.comparing China with Thailand is like comparing an ugly rock to a diamond.Chinese girls are ugly? W T F!

I have never been to China but I can assure you that the Chinese girls you see in Singapore are diamonds amongst the diamonds!

Satrai2000
02-15-08, 16:02
Rbamane,

Sabai Sabai does not have a fishbowl. It's an oil massage place. You will most likely have a small selection of girls at that time of the night, so look for a freelancer first. Sabai Sabai provides an oil massage and hj on premises. They have 20 or more girls during the day, but very few between 2am and 8am. Some, but not all, of the girls provide FS when they go to your hotel. It's mostly a backup plan as a 24/7 option.

The freelancer route is better, since you get to choose, and of course FS is the norm. If you can get to Soi Cowboy by 2:00am, you can see what's still around and if not make your way to NEP and see what's left there. Girls who have not hooked up, hang around for a bit (eat, see if they get lucky, etc.). If you run into the 90 to 120 minute nightmare at immigration that the other posters described, that would be a pity. Has it really gotten that bad at the new airport recently or were they describing the lines when it first opened?

By the way .. I was joking with the Giotto line. Don't want to get him in trouble with a bunch of guys ordering girls via e-mail for a early morning pickup! Sorry G!

AT2They are some pretty girls in SabaiSabai in the night-shift. However, some of them ask a ridiculous 2000Bht for a BJ. If you ask them why they want that much they answer that "girls in other MP's have HIV" (yeah, right...).

What sometimes irritates me in SabaiSabai are the customers that talk too much and too loudly to each other. Last week two Frenchmen had a conversation, each from his own cubicle (and I was in the cubicle between them). The day after two Indians did the same.

I recommended the manager to hang a board "Silence please" in the massage area.

Fast Eddie 48
02-15-08, 17:32
I'm not an EXPERT on the Chinese market like some here; however, I have lived in China from 2004 to 2008. I am yet to find a soapy-bed-massage, 2 girls in Guangdong or Beijing. Going for 2000 Baht = 486RMB like in BKK. [1RMB=4. 11Baht]

Chinese girls are plain ugly comparing to Thai. No doubt! Then, they can't fuck. Or blow. No service at all, and were born without a smile.comparing China with Thailand is like comparing an ugly rock to a diamond.

So far, best money value in BKK is "The Eden", tel Bruce that Lou (another French) recommended you the place.

Dream world? Thai you want to marry? "Pegasus" in THE place!Iinfomatic,

There are body slide and bed massage in china and but skill is not as good as in Bangkok or Pattaya , Hong kong and macau sauna have thai girl offer this service and I also got this service in Zhu hai and Chongqing by PRC .

I agree thai girl have hotter body and are better in bed but I disagree girl in china is ugly and you never try a sauna in china that offer a 90 min 10 course menu either .

Fast Eddie 48

Dezi Guy
02-15-08, 20:18
I was in Bangkok in early January and booked out two girls from the Eden Club to my hotel.

Three weeks later I developed an intense itching and was diagnosed with Crab Lice. I then remembered that one of the girls was itching all night - and in the morning she was washing with feminine wash.

What is irritating is not that I got crab lice - what is irritating is that the girl new something was wrong and she still came out with me. If Eden is so careful with STD checks - then this should not happen!

NicFrenchy
02-16-08, 03:47
What is irritating is not that I got crab lice - what is irritating is that the girl new something was wrong and she still came out with me. If Eden is so careful with STD checks - then this should not happen!So, If I understand you correctly, for Eden to be careful about STD's they would have to look up the Girl's Pussies at the beginning of each Shift, Hire a nurse for STD's Checks in the Morning?

If they would even agree to do that, Girls would have to start at 7 am in order for the place to open on time (12h30), these girls have families so it won't be possible.

Don't be silly, Checks are done Weekly or monthly, The CLUB is not to blame, the girl is, she should have come forward to the management and talk about her "Itchiness" which would probably have resulted in a few days off for her along with a considerable loss of income.

Gamma Beta
02-16-08, 03:55
It will be my first time in Thailand, and I am figuring out which area would be best to reserve my hotel room. I've read about both area, but it would be great to get the forum's opinion on the subject.

I've been reading up on Nana Hotel and Tai Pan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Michi
02-16-08, 04:55
I was in Bangkok in early January and booked out two girls from the Eden Club to my hotel.

Three weeks later I developed an intense itching and was diagnosed with Crab Lice. I then remembered that one of the girls was itching all night - and in the morning she was washing with feminine wash.

What is irritating is not that I got crab lice - what is irritating is that the girl new something was wrong and she still came out with me. If Eden is so careful with STD checks - then this should not happen!

Hi,
they typically are really clean. And the hygenic wash you will se with many TGs as they fanatic for cleanliness.
You shure it was not the hotel? Where did you stay?

If you are still shure just let them know in the Eden Club, they will take care of you some way and make up for it.
Good luck,
Mike

Owl_
02-16-08, 07:22
I was in Bangkok in early January and booked out two girls from the Eden Club to my hotel.

Three weeks later I developed an intense itching and was diagnosed with Crab Lice. I then remembered that one of the girls was itching all night - and in the morning she was washing with feminine wash.

What is irritating is not that I got crab lice - what is irritating is that the girl new something was wrong and she still came out with me. If Eden is so careful with STD checks - then this should not happen!

I would tend to agree with Michi that Thai girls are really a frantic on cleanliness and possibly the girl was itching all night because of bed bug or something else in your bed. This might of been the cause of your crab lice which you contracted, which I'm sorry to hear!

Where did you stay and for how long?

Bounce Around
02-16-08, 07:57
I'm not an EXPERT on the Chinese market like some here; however, I have lived in China from 2004 to 2008. I am yet to find a soapy-bed-massage, 2 girls in Guangdong or Beijing. Going for 2000 Baht = 486RMB like in BKK. [1RMB=4. 11Baht]

Chinese girls are plain ugly comparing to Thai. No doubt! Then, they can't fuck. Or blow. No service at all, and were born without a smile.comparing China with Thailand is like comparing an ugly rock to a diamond.Have to disagree, have had wonderful service in China and a lot of fun, including BBJs and CIMs. True they don't get down lesbian/bi style; at least i haven't found any.

Its my first time to Thailand and am hopefully going to get some good comparisons down! :)

Where do you get 2 girls for 2000 baht? (you can get two girls ST for <500RMB in SZ)

I've read people pulling girls from Eden and other MPs, how does that work? Do you wait for her after work or do you settle something with the management?

Old Thai Hand
02-16-08, 08:45
I would tend to agree with Michi that Thai girls are really a frantic on cleanliness and possibly the girl was itching all night because of bed bug or something else in your bed. This might of been the cause of your crab lice which you contracted, which I'm sorry to hear!

Where did you stay and for how long?

You cannot catch crabs from bed linen, clothing, toilets or anywhere else, except pubic hair.

If he's got it, he got it from a sex partner.

Fon Tok
02-16-08, 10:46
Three weeks later I developed an intense itching and was diagnosed with Crab Lice...If Eden is so careful with STD checks - then this should not happen!Maybe she got them from the guy just before you?

Take a bath and soap up with Lindane. You'll be fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindane

Member #4643
02-16-08, 12:17
You cannot catch crabs from bed linen, clothing, toilets or anywhere else, except pubic hair.

If he's got it, he got it from a sex partner.

This is not entirely true (although in all probability, he got lice from sex). See this little educational site on lice from the world famous Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/lice/DS00368/DSECTION=1

Note that they say "Sexual contact or contact with infected clothing, bedding or even toilet seats can spread pubic lice."

Hollow Man
02-16-08, 13:33
ok, arriving at suvarnabhumi airport was simple. choice of taxi or airport express bus (aeb). taxi is 250 baht (meter and tolls) with no traffic (early am hours) or 350 baht normally. i selected the aeb at 150 baht since it stops pretty much everywhere.

airport arrival

go to gate 8 for on the first floor for the aeb. 2 routes available and after getting on the girl who punches your ticket might ask you where you are going. whether or not she asks, you have to tell her the street so she will tell the driver to make your stop. good thing to mention it directly to the driver too so he is clear.

hotel

arrive at my brand new hotel "lub d" for 385 baht dormitory bunk. super clean and nice. it's across the street from the sofitel. after walking around ""post-shopping" for price i disovered that expensive places are a rip. there plenty of better priced hotels that just aren't online. china inn is only 1200 baht and really nice home-like hotel. there's even a 200 baht per night motel in front of patpong ii although i didn't bother checking it you i can imagine it used for other purposes mostly. learned that laststays.com and wotif.com are the best at price bookings. they gave me the best price by taking out breakfast.

shopping

holy shit patpong is a fucking rip. the prices are insane. a t-shirt quoted to me at 350 baht i knew was 200 baht (not the 100 crappy baht t-shirts, i am talking about the higher quality ones in canisters) the fucker wouldn't budge below 300 baht even when i said i didn't need the canister. he said i was "first customer no problem he give me good price". for those of you who are not se asian. first customer means he has to rip you a bit. there are those that belive if they have an early sale and make a good profit from it that they will have good luck in sales the rest of the day. unfortunately i was leaving in several hours and didn't have time so i managed 400 baht for 2 shirts although the other shirt was girls t-shirt so i should've only paid 300 for both. i gave him the benefit in this sale by a bit. many of the merchants are overcharging everything. 250 baht for simpsons underwear i just bought yesterday at mbk for 100.

siam square and mbk remain the best shopping venues imo.

star of light

ok so i checked it out and the girls look the same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (only good for dick sucking). performance was the same as well, very enjoyable. 700 baht and 200 for tip.

jc infinity

took a standard girl for 1900. kind mechanical and sucky. although there was a reason for this. i hurt her in doggy style but she never mentioned it and until she suggested i stop to finish myself (then i knew) but i laughed and finished with her missionary. i am kinda bigger than normal and this is a common thing i go through but she should have said something. i tipped her 500 baht for being a trooper. the sideline girls were. bleh. but before walking out i decided to go back to look again since the selection was low when i entered at 4:30. oh wow. there 2 supermodels on the floor and wow. i was stunned for the first time speechless. mind you. i have taken the supermodel girls from catherines before and was very impressed but there were these 2 girls who were completely amazing including the way they were treating the 2 japanese guys they were with. smiling and laughing and keeping them treated like kings. beee-eeauuu-tiiiii-fuullll. i still am not going to pay 5000 baht for 2 hours though. maybe if i was rich but alas i am not.

nana plaza

bad discovery. saw a couple of post-op lady boys dancing in one of the spots on the 2nd floor (rainbow? ) other customers were in denial but specific signs were very apparent if you know what to look for. they were good post-ops but not good enough for me. saw a gorgeous chick outside and approached her but her soft voice gave her away as a lady-boy. wow. best one i'd ever seen. couldn't tell by looking at him/her in the slightest including bone structure. if it wasn't for the voice i never would have guessed (maybe if i had seen naked maybe).

good realization. still many beautiful girls hahah which leads to an enjoyable time. costs. i only drink coke ad its about 90-130 baht for a coke. the barfines are 600 baht. didn't take a girl since it'd be over my budget.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Hakkan
02-16-08, 14:03
It will be my first time in Thailand, and I am figuring out which area would be best to reserve my hotel room. I've read about both area, but it would be great to get the forum's opinion on the subject.

I've been reading up on Nana Hotel and Tai Pan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.The areas is very near. 40 bath taxi between the places. So it dosnt matter where u will live. But i think Nana Plaza is the best place. But every night when we go out party we always go to both Nana Plaza and Soi cowboy. And then u have Patpong to. It is little bit far away and not so many good a-gogo bar.

Hakkan
02-16-08, 14:11
Rachada is boring to death. In the meaning of streetwalkers. Anyone knowing better in the Rachada area?I lived there for longer time. There is alot of good clubs there. Go to Inch Club behind the supermarket in Soi 7.

Old Thai Hand
02-16-08, 14:33
This is not entirely true (although in all probability, he got lice from sex). See this little educational site on lice from the world famous Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/lice/DS00368/DSECTION=1

Note that they say "Sexual contact or contact with infected clothing, bedding or even toilet seats can spread pubic lice."

Perhaps. But, they can't live very long outside their preferred environment. So, it would have to be fairly grotty conditions to catch them from sheets, a toilet etc.

Timps
02-17-08, 09:14
Question: My flight lands at BKK at 9pm and I fly out the next morning at 8am.

I don't want to hang out out the airport all night, so I was thinking about heading into town for some action, maybe pulling an all nighter.

I've never been to Eden and I want to check it out but my concern is it will be too late at night. I'm I right? I guess it will still be open but the selection will be lacking.

Any other late night recommendations?

Dezi Guy
02-17-08, 09:34
I would tend to agree with Michi that Thai girls are really a frantic on cleanliness and possibly the girl was itching all night because of bed bug or something else in your bed. This might of been the cause of your crab lice which you contracted, which I'm sorry to hear!

Where did you stay and for how long?I was at the Westin - so I doubt that cleanliness was an issue. I'm pretty sure I got it from that girl.

Pathologic
02-17-08, 10:28
I've travelled to Thailand many times over the years. May be I'm a bit jaded or experienced, but I find I settle into my familiar routine when there. Hence I need your help. For my forthcoming trip I'll be accompanied by a friend. He's never experienced mongering, barely travelled overseas and can't conceptualise what he's about to encounter. For that reason I'd like to make his trip very, very memorable. We'll stay in Nana Plaza. Please, any and all suggestions on where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Pattaya forum.

NicFrenchy
02-17-08, 11:32
where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Pattaya forum.If you want to kill him on his first day then I would suggest:

1. Wake him up at 8am
2. Have Breakfast
3. Head to SOL (the Star of Light on Patpong 2) for an Early Morning Blowjob to clean the Pipes (Approx Cost: 1500)
4. Do Some Shopping at MBK, Have lunch
5. Head to the Eden Club at 13:00 for a Dynamic Duo Performance (Cost: 5000)
6. Rest a little
7. Head to TULIP MAssage for a Massage + No Hole Barred Sex Experience (2800 Thb)

If your friend can Walk straight after such a day, I will be impressed!

PinkPearl
02-17-08, 11:37
It will be my first time in Thailand, and I am figuring out which area would be best to reserve my hotel room. I've read about both area, but it would be great to get the forum's opinion on the subject.

I've been reading up on Nana Hotel and Tai Pan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.If you want to be in the middle of the action, then I think the former might be the better choice because of the many street walkers. It depends on what you prefer, being in the middle of it as soon as you walk out the door, or having to travel a bit to get there.

Why not do a search on the hotels in the hotels in BKK thread, and see whether you'ld prefer NEP or Cowboy, since NEP is across the street from Nana hotel while the latter is close to Soi Cowboy's bars.

ThaiLearner
02-17-08, 11:58
It will be my first time in Thailand, and I am figuring out which area would be best to reserve my hotel room. I've read about both area, but it would be great to get the forum's opinion on the subject.

I've been reading up on Nana Hotel and Tai Pan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Nana and Cowboy are fairly close to each other, you can walk it, so stay any where in between or nearer one to the other. You can also get the sky train between the two if you want.

ThaiLearner
02-17-08, 12:07
I've travelled to Thailand many times over the years. May be I'm a bit jaded or experienced, but I find I settle into my familiar routine when there. Hence I need your help. For my forthcoming trip I'll be accompanied by a friend. He's never experienced mongering, barely travelled overseas and can't conceptualise what he's about to encounter. For that reason I'd like to make his trip very, very memorable. We'll stay in Nana Plaza. Please, any and all suggestions on where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Pattaya forum.


Take him to Edens that should do the trick.

Or if you want some fun you could try and set him up with a lady boy and see if he notices.

Also Long Gun on SOi Cowboy to see the show you watch your eyes when she fires the darts at the ballons .

1Ball
02-17-08, 12:59
It will be my first time in Thailand, and I am figuring out which area would be best to reserve my hotel room. I've read about both area, but it would be great to get the forum's opinion on the subject.

I've been reading up on Nana Hotel and Tai Pan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.
Gamma, the Tai Pan, 2 years ago, was definitely NOT GF. You might want to ask if their policy has changed.

Timps
02-17-08, 22:19
Question: I will be landing at BKK at 9pm and flying out at 8am. I don't want to hangout at the airport. So, I was thinking of pulling an all nighter in Bangkok.

I have never been to the Eden Club before. My question is would I be getting there too late to properly enjoy it?

Any other tips or suggestions for late night fun? Do places generally close up after 2am?

Dan7373
02-18-08, 00:01
....I'll be accompanied by a friend. He's never experienced mongering, barely travelled overseas and can't conceptualise what he's about to encounter. For that reason I'd like to make his trip very, very memorable. We'll stay in Nana Plaza. Please, any and all suggestions on where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Pattaya forum.

I suggest that you set him up with Dao at Tulip Massage. This lady has a reputation for molesting her men with all of her holes, starting in the shower with her mouth. She is a real nymphomaniac. And she likes to make her men cum twice during the session. Which is what you need for a novice.

Premature ejaculation is almost inevitable with this pretty lady. But that only makes the guy last longer with her second time around.

You probably have to set up an appointment with Dao. She is a popular lady.

Tulip Massage is at:

806/2-3 Sukhumvit 38
(next to Thonglor Skytrain)

Washburn
02-18-08, 00:11
Question: I will be landing at BKK at 9pm and flying out at 8am. I don't want to hangout at the airport. So, I was thinking of pulling an all nighter in Bangkok.

I have never been to the Eden Club before. My question is would I be getting there too late to properly enjoy it?

Any other tips or suggestions for late night fun? Do places generally close up after 2am?I don't know how late Eden stays open.- although I highly recommend it if you're able to visit it.- but after 2:00 a. M. You could check out the Thermae Coffeeshop near Sukhumvit Soi 15. Girls go there after their bars close. And there are loads of freelancers on Sukhumvit generally. You won't have any problem hooking up with one or two no matter how late you are.

Washburn
02-18-08, 00:26
If you want to kill him on his first day then I would suggest:

1. Wake him up at 8am
2. Have Breakfast
3. Head to SOL (the Star of Light on Patpong 2) for an Early Morning Blowjob to clean the Pipes (Approx Cost: 1500)
4. Do Some Shopping at MBK, Have lunch
5. Head to the Eden Club at 13:00 for a Dynamic Duo Performance (Cost: 5000)
6. Rest a little
7. Head to TULIP MAssage for a Massage + No Hole Barred Sex Experience (2800 Thb)

If your friend can Walk straight after such a day, I will be impressed!This is great advice.- but a BBBJ CIM was 700 B at Star of Light last time I was there, Eden Club is 3600 B I think for two three-hole girls (perhaps a bit more but less than 5000 B for sure); and Tulip is 800 B (for ninety minutes, I think, although that could be for sixty minutes), then you give the girl 1500 B for full service including anal.

Of course, you'll want to tip the girls at all these places so your totals will be close to the amounts NicFrenchy quoted.

Evil Penivel
02-18-08, 01:54
I have never been to the Eden Club before. My question is would I be getting there too late to properly enjoy it?



It's not too late for Eden. I believe "last call" is around midnight. Only problem with a late-night session at Eden is you will probably see a very short line-up, almost all the ladies will have been selected by then because the "overnight take-away'' starts at 10.p.m. But it certainly is possible to have an inhouse session late at night in Eden.

Otherwise, you can barfine a girl from any of hundreds of establishments -gogo bars, beer bars, etc. Or find a free-lancer at Beer Garden, Gulliver's or even on the street. You could take her to a short-time hotel - she'll know the closest.

Evil

Washburn
02-18-08, 02:43
I've travelled to Thailand many times over the years. May be I'm a bit jaded or experienced, but I find I settle into my familiar routine when there. Hence I need your help. For my forthcoming trip I'll be accompanied by a friend. He's never experienced mongering, barely travelled overseas and can't conceptualise what he's about to encounter. For that reason I'd like to make his trip very, very memorable. We'll stay in Nana Plaza. Please, any and all suggestions on where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Pattaya forum.I'd second the Tulip suggestion. It's an easy skytrain ride from Nana and it's right below the station.- only I'd go for a double-header. A combination that should prove diverting is Yok and April. If he's not challenged sexually by that porn star/spinner combo then my hat's off to him.

Pathologic
02-18-08, 03:53
Or if you want some fun you could try and set him up with a lady boy and see if he notices.

Brought tears to my eyes with laughter....most definately will do!

Big Boss Man
02-18-08, 07:46
A friend of my brother, Charinee, opened the Aloha Bar recently. The ambience is clean and modern. There are some nice girls to barfine. Charinee helped my brother out when he was going through a major illness so she is good people. It is on Sukhumvit Soi 22 a little past and across the street from the Grand Mercure Hotel going away from Sukhumvit. If you are in the area stop in and have a drink. Full Disclosure: My brother may have a small financial interest in the bar. I did not get the full story. Here is the link http://www.aloha-bar.com/.

Thaid Up
02-18-08, 10:34
You cannot catch crabs from bed linen, clothing, toilets or anywhere else, except pubic hair.

If he's got it, he got it from a sex partner.

Yes there is nothing more appealing than walking past two Thai Massage Girls sitting in front of their place of business pulling head lice out of each other's hair with their fingernails. It just makes you want to just walk right in for a massage.

NicFrenchy
02-19-08, 05:35
I was in the BTS yesterday evening and saw 2 Stunning looking girls, both dressed with Ret tops, Slim Bodies, beautiful faces! It is safe to assume all the males (Thais included) were looking at them. They were holding the Middle Pole and as the car was pretty crowded I found myself right behind them. One girl was turning her back to me and the other was facing me. The girl with her back to me had a very pleasant scent and I could not help but smile, her friend obviously saw me and smiled back but carried on with her conversation.

I was a little too close to them and noticed in the Handbag of the girl turning her back to me, a Strawberry Condom Pack! Need I say more? I smile even more and the girl got intrigued, she smiled back and while she was looking at me I motioned towards the handbag. They both looked at the side Pocket where, sure enough, the Condom Pack was stuffed, they giggled but did not say anything. "You like Everything Red? " I asked them quietly for the Other Passengers not to notice, "yes" replied the girl. They were both amused by the Situation and we started to talk. I found out they were on their way to work, around Nana, freelancers. Although Nana wasn’t my stop, I still accompanied the girls outside and asked them for a phone number. The lady that was facing me told me "we can go your hotel now, 5000 baht", a little pricey but they were so sexy that it demanded me a terrible effort not to say "yes" right there and then. I found out that the 5000 was inclusive of "everything and for Both girls for the night" (2500 each) so not a bad deal after all, except the "everything" in their mind was not inclusive of Anal and Lesbian.

What to do? I could not ask them for a session now as I had other Plans so I took their Phone number and we parted ways.

I am a moron for not having agreed to take them because the next day when I tried to reach them, the Phone number was incorrect! Stupid me.

If any of you see 2 stunning girls around the Nana Area, with Red tops and one has a black leather bag with a Strawberry condoms Pack on her, please take her contact and let me know.

Much appreciated.

AsiaTraveler2
02-19-08, 08:09
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What to do? I could not ask them for a session now as I had other Plans so I took their Phone number and we parted ways.

I am a moron for not having agreed to take them because the next day when I tried to reach them, the Phone number was incorrect! Stupid me.

If any of you see 2 stunning girls around the Nana Area, with Red tops and one has a black leather bag with a Strawberry condoms Pack on her, please take her contact and let me know.

Much appreciated.

Nic,

Woooo! I feel for you man! Hope you find them and hope they are still around when I get there! LOL!

AT2

Giotto
02-19-08, 08:22
...
If any of you see 2 stunning girls around the Nana Area, with Red tops and one has a black leather bag with a Strawberry condoms Pack on her, please take her contact and let me know.

Much appreciated.NicFrenchy,

LOL!

Found them, but there is no box with condoms any more :) ... you still want the numbers ?


Giotto

LittleBigMan
02-19-08, 08:56
NicFrenchy,

You messed up bad! Next time get your cell phone out, enter the number and call them back right there and then! make sure the number is right. Now it's all a dream buddy!

LBM

NicFrenchy
02-19-08, 10:25
I am a moron Sometimes am I not ? LOL

Giotto, I knew you'd have the number. So how many laps do I have to do in your Pool before you consider handing it to me?

Dirty Tom
02-19-08, 10:48
finally, i got done with my first stint at mongering in los and here's the report -

landed at about 11.45 pm at suvarnabhoomi airport and cleared immigration within 5 minutes, baggage arrived in another 15 and i was in the taxi within 30 minutes of landing at bkk. off we go to livingstones - i had directions from helpful seniors here like at2 and pit - and also the beautiful map from ll website for the taxi driver to look at.

checked into ll - very smooth process and very helpful bell boy (or whatever they call them there). freshened up quickly, went down to the poolside and met with giotto - he was enjoying the late night chat with pit (to whom i got introduced soon) and was playing with the pool water. they both advised me (pointing to the sports lounge) to rush inside before all the gals leave for the night coz it was past 1 am now.

as soon as i was inside, someone offered me a stool to sit on, a gal brought a moist napkin to help myself and i was asked about what drink i needed to which i ordered plain water. the mamasan introduced herself and helped me pick a gal. we kinda negotiated and made the deal at 2.5k baht for lt - p (name of my catch of the night, just using her first initial to protect her identity) agreed to stay with me till lunch next day - which sounded kool. i did not quite realize that she was not very good at speaking english and that could pose some issues during our ons.

i signed the bf to my room check and came out - asked g and pit on where to find protection... to my surprise, the generous pit put his hand in his pocket and handed me one, g mentioned that i could get some more at the front desk, 100b for 3 of them.

i had been advised by some others that i should go to nep / soi cowboy and hunt something for myself - but after being on two planes for over 18 hours - i really wanted to rush with things - you know how the brain thinks at those times! i walked with p back to our room and forgot if mine was 102 or 104 - enquired back again downstairs and came up to open my room.

we both got in and made ourselves comfortable. p went in to take a shower and was kinda shy and locked herself in the bathroom. this was unacceptable! i knocked and asked if i could go join her - to which she just smiled and said ok ( she understood ok very well - better than anything else) and there we were under the shower.

first signs of inexperience started to show up - she was shy touching me ... i had to instruct her and talk her into cleaning me. anyways, since we could not communicate in any spoken language - sign language was the last resort - which kinda worked for the most part.

now when we were at the bed - she was nothing more or less than an obedient starfish. yeah - she would do only and exactly whatever i told her and nothing more or less. the only thing she was not ready to do was ar - to which i gave her the benefit of doubt that not all thai gals would be into ar... on being asked to do it, she was kinda ok at balls licking / sucking and the bbbj was only an average one - something that even a 500b hooker could have done it (or mebbe better).

after bbbjing for about 10-15 mins, we decided to go for it and i rolled the condom presented by pit and she came on. having been marooned in a very public atmosphere with no privacy - little johnny was all set for action. she sat on me and started riding me - somehow the way these thai / viet gals sit on you and do it - it simply is very stimulating and produces fast results. i liked the ride part of the action and in a few minutes or so i was done.

it was about 2.15 pm by now and we decided to sleep. she slept good for about a few hours and due to my jet lag i was wide awake all night! yeah - all night ... so spent some time checking emails and stuff. at about 6 am, i could not wait no more and woke her up. i asked if she could gimme some massage - to which her favorite response was 'ok' - fine with me! she gave me an okay massage for about 20-25 minutes and then i asked her for bbbj again.

now this is something that i found kinda interesting - each time i requested her to do something, she would stare at me for a few seconds like i was some extra terrestrial! but she usually was ok for most things i asked her... after a decent bbbj i asked her to ride me and then she finished me with a forceful ride.

i wish the gal had the pro-active sense to clean me up once i am done. both times i had to walk to the bathroom to clean myself up... anyways - i think i was being too generous giving benefits of doubt to the gal. the time now was 7 am and i was damn hungry. i tried asking her if she knew an eating place nearby and she just couldn't help me there. i called the front desk and they felt sorry that nothing close by would be open.

anyways, we got ready and went down for the ll breakfast. it was 7.30 am still and i was told that the breakfast would be available only at 8 am. what the heck - we both went down and sat by the poolside all alone, not talking to each other coz we could not communicate much ... both observing the ll white dog who would occasionally stare at us. fortunately, the lady at the breakfast place came by and asked us for our preferences and soon the food was brought. i should say it was decent.

then i asked the front desk as to where could i go out for some touristy things - she wrote to me the name of buddha temple close by and i asked my gal if she would be fine accompanying me there. she was fine about it. off we went in a taxi. we sat at the temple for a while, she prayed, i prayed, i clicked some pictures, we went around the temple seeing the things, i rang about 20+ bells which in my tradition is usually one or two bells. we took another taxi and were back to ll by 9.30 am.

i was now debating whether to stay with her and get another round going (which i could predict the sequence of events that would happen and it surely sounded boring to me) versus the other choice of going to some massage parlor and have some fun. since the wireless was not functioning very well in my room, i told her that i would be back and she watched animal planet in the room while i was down browsing the websites of all massage parlors near soi 33 area - to check their sunday opening timings. the reason i was very meticulous about my plans was that i had barely 2-3 hours before leaving for the airport and i wanted to make use of that time.

i saw on the website that the love teen massage which is at a stone's throw from ll was going to open at 10 am and rest all (dream, angels, etc.) at 11 am. so i came back to my room and told my gal that i need to leave early and that she need not wait till lunch and she should also leave. i paid her a tip of 300b over the 2.5k baht that we had agreed upon. i am not sure if this was higher or okay or what but i had a humane side to my personality and felt sorry for her for being forced into this profession by her ciscumstances. the best i could do is to pay her more than what she deserved and that's what i did (i think).

o well, now i walked into love teen massage and was greeted by a lady at the front desk. she showed me the menu and an album of all gals that were present at that hour (about 10 am). i liked one which was not available. my next choice was very much there. i asked her to be seen and she came out. she looked okay, i mean compared to my night's company - this looked very bubbly and kinda better face.

i went for the lotion massage for 700b for 1.5 hours. for al all service, she quoted me 2.2k baht. i first refused. then she said that it comes with shower, balls massage, bj, etc. i was like let me talk to my masseause about the extras. we went up. i was her first for the day. honestly, we just clicked very well... i was cracking many jokes, being happy that this gal speaks english ( rather i was delighted that i can at least talk to her :) ) - and this gal was equally fun loving and claimed to be 23. she was also cracking jokes equally well and would be open to ask about anything that she didn't understand... i liked that.

then i bargained with her and told her that i would come back to her again. she claimed that every john comes and promises her to come back but not many do... so i assured her that i would if i get a good service and a good deal. she peeped outside and seeing no one was around, agreed for a 1.2k extra for everything - mind you that i never knew what was in that everything. i was only ready for a bbbj without cim since this was more like a massage thingy. so i was happy that instead of 2.2k total, i would be paying 1.9k for some fun stuff.

anyways, she gave a defect lotion massage after shower (she didnt shower with me)... and all the while we were cracking jokes and i was making her laugh the entire time. for some reason if she didn't like my request (which was of course for fun), she would say that she will 'box' me and would act like she was going to punch me. she even did that a few times to my little one (ouch! it would be bad to get a real one down there), but she was simply kidding and having fun. finally, i told her that i would box her as well... that some how sounded very funny to her and she laughed and laughed...

she showered me the second time and washed me very thoroughly. fine, now the massage part was over and so i told her that lets get to the other part of the deal - the sex! she slipped on a condom and started a cbj - which was good. she licked me all around my crotch and a lot near the a'hole - she was just short of performing ar right at the hole, but did a good lick job all around it - finally some part of my fantasy from the last night came to fulfilment... not bad!

i remarked to her that i do not need a condom when she slipped one over me and she said that its good for safety. i was thinking that all she would do is a bj and i certainly did not want a cbj only. but soon, she started kissing me from crotch upwards and rubbing her boobs with my little one and was climbing up. she came up to my face kissing and before i realized, i was inside her. wow! even if this is a part of the ritual - i was pleasantly surprised coz i was not expecting it. now i realized why she insisted on the condom.

she was hugging me (was horizontal) and started riding me. this had never happened to me before. everyone i had been with would sit vertical and ride me like a horse ride. she was different. she laid down on me, hugging me, and still was doing an awesome job at riding me. it was pure fun! finally the smile that was much awaited in the los. she was pretty vigorous at times and after a good amount of time she moaned as if she had cum. i am kinda sure that she really did. i was still not done yet. then i grabbed her ass and was actively taking part in banging her, she was still lying on me and hugging me. some fast moves from her part and then i was finally done.

she realized that, quickly got up, hid my little one from my view and used some kleenex (or whatever) tissues and cleaned me up very well down there. then she asked me to go take a shower after she had cleaned herself up. wow! what a climax! never before i had been made to cum third within a span of 10 hours and this gal did it. i told her that i would like to seriously spend an entire night with her and she offered me her phone number and told me that she would be happy to do so too. i told her that i should be living in the area the next time too and that i will call her. though she quoted about 4k for entire night, i am sure she may come down on that once i actually get her to join me. seniors - is there anything that can help me here ;) ?

i was really pleased and was thinking with my little brain - ended up giving her the original price of 1.5k even if the total 2.2k was high - i really felt like she deserved it. she casually mentioned to me after the deed that she is tired and that since i am the first customer of the day, she is being nice to me :) - doesn't hurt!

i paid her and took leave of that place, promised her to meet up again. then on recommendation from the front desk gal at ll, i went for a quick lunch at the thai restaurant two shops down from ll - i was the only customer and i got royal treatment. there was a lady wearing a sexy revealing dress there (part of the serving team) and was smoking hot - i could have done her then :). anyways, then i came to the airport for my onward journey and promised myself to have more fun the next time i am down there.

seniors - what is your suggestion - can i expect good service, looks, attitude, etc. from some one i would pick up at soi cowboy or nep or should i go with a known (this massage parlor gal) gal for at least one of the two nights that i am in bkk in 2 weeks? i really want to make the best of my time there and would also appreciate contacts from those who can spare me one or two from their big list (i am sure some of us here have a long list of fantastic ladies). also, can i get a good service for 2k all night if i pick one up at nep / soi cowboy?

the experience can be summarized thus - it has made me picky about what i want & i now completely agree with the fact that one can be deaf, dumb and blind and still be able to get a good company for the night - if one cannot get a gal in bkk - then he cannot get one on this planet!

finally, thanks g and thanks pit for all your advice on the forum and in person - you made me feel comfortable at a new place and just like home at the ll - thank you with all my heart!

AsiaTraveler2
02-19-08, 16:22
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Seniors - what is your suggestion - can I expect good service, looks, attitude, etc. from some one I would pick up at Soi Cowboy or NEP or should I go with a known (this massage parlor gal) gal for at least one of the two nights that I am in BKK in 2 weeks? I really want to make the best of my time there and would also appreciate contacts from those who can spare me one or two from their big list (I am sure some of us here have a long list of fantastic ladies). Also, can I get a good service for 2K all night if I pick one up at NEP / Soi Cowboy?



Rbamane,

Nice writeup. You have scratched the surface, but there's much much more. I would suggest going to NEP, Soi Cowboy and possibly even Patpong, even if just to swing by and look for about 30 minutes each. You will see what is on display, get the vibe and have some knowledge of the quantity and quality of girls available in BKK and will know where these places are.

Everyone has different tastes and you may find them no different or you may find some there that might be your 9 or 10. Do this on your first full night. You can always book your girl that you had and go back to her, after you have seen the sights. And yes, you can get a girl for 2K baht all night at any venue. It's a YMMV world and depends on you and the girl. Some of the beer bars are also fun, like the Bamboo bar, Hillary Bars, Gullivers, etc.

You also need to go to one of the Soapy's in the late afternoons, just for the visual. It's not like the old days, when there were full fishbowls, but still enough to see and like. Go between 4pm and 6pm. If you don't see anything you like, you can always leave. It's the best window shopping and possibly the only window shopping a guy should ever do. The Soapy's usually have a bar/model section, so be sure to check those out too.

Glad you had a good time. I'm a kid in a candy store in BKK and never go back to the same girl. Always looking for something new.

AT2

Dirty Tom
02-19-08, 17:36
Thanks AT2, sure that is the plan - to explore all avenues possible!

Plan also includes a soapy and an oile - one on each of the 'days' and someone all night for the two 'nights' - so lets see how that works out.

Will keep you updated of the experiences and post further reports as well.

Thanks for the encouragement and the tips.

-R.



Rbamane,

Nice writeup. You have scratched the surface, but there's much much more. I would suggest going to NEP, Soi Cowboy and possibly even Patpong, even if just to swing by and look for about 30 minutes each. You will see what is on display, get the vibe and have some knowledge of the quantity and quality of girls available in BKK and will know where these places are.

Everyone has different tastes and you may find them no different or you may find some there that might be your 9 or 10. Do this on your first full night. You can always book your girl that you had and go back to her, after you have seen the sights. And yes, you can get a girl for 2K baht all night at any venue. It's a YMMV world and depends on you and the girl. Some of the beer bars are also fun, like the Bamboo bar, Hillary Bars, Gullivers, etc.

You also need to go to one of the Soapy's in the late afternoons, just for the visual. It's not like the old days, when there were full fishbowls, but still enough to see and like. Go between 4pm and 6pm. If you don't see anything you like, you can always leave. It's the best window shopping and possibly the only window shopping a guy should ever do. The Soapy's usually have a bar/model section, so be sure to check those out too.

Glad you had a good time. I'm a kid in a candy store in BKK and never go back to the same girl. Always looking for something new.

AT2

Silvermesh
02-19-08, 18:18
Hi,

My usual hotel is full so I am thinking about The Pinnacle Lumpinee Hotel & Spa is located on Rama 4 Road.

Does any one know any thing about this one? How is the quality?

Stiffoak 571
02-19-08, 22:35
NicFrenchy,

You messed up bad! Next time get your cell phone out, enter the number and call them back right there and then! make sure the number is right. Now it's all a dream buddy!

LBMI once had a girls number written on my hand after a night out in London and the next day I realised that I'd (like a good boy as my mother always told me) had a wash before I went to bed and washed away 4 of the digits.

Wendella
02-20-08, 01:52
I'm going to try to re-locate a girl who I met at a bar in NEP. She may or may not work there anymore, probably does not. If she doesn't, I was thinking of talking to the mamasan and offering a nice tip for help in getting hold of the girl (either mama getting hold of her and calling her to meet me, or her cel phone number, whatever).

Has anyone done something like this before? What's a good amount to offer for the help? Any other suggestions how to work this situation? I've got her name and a photo I can show.

THanks

NicFrenchy
02-20-08, 03:24
I was thinking of talking to the mamasan and offering a nice tip for help in getting hold of the girl (either mama getting hold of her and calling her to meet me, or her cel phone number, whatever). Mama would do almost anything for a good customer. So if you want to be a good customer, get in the bar, buy mama a drink and show her the Picture. If she knows her she'll contact her for you (and make sure you give Mama a 100 or 200 as Tip), trust me, she'll never forget your face again and you'll get top notch service everytime you go in that bar.

Pocket Sushi
02-20-08, 03:34
I'm going to try to re-locate a girl who I met at a bar in NEP. She may or may not work there anymore, probably does not. If she doesn't, I was thinking of talking to the mamasan and offering a nice tip for help in getting hold of the girl (either mama getting hold of her and calling her to meet me, or her cel phone number, whatever).

Has anyone done something like this before? What's a good amount to offer for the help? Any other suggestions how to work this situation? I've got her name and a photo I can show.

THanksI'd go to the bar she used to work at and just ask for her. If she's not there, make up some excuse why you need to talk with her such as the last time you two were together she left a gold bracelet in your room and you want to return it to her or some other BS. Chances are someone there will know how to find her. I have to ask though, why would you want to relocate someone that you haven't even kept in contact with? She could be married already or pumping out kids in the province with a tuk-tuk driver by now. With so many thousands of eligible beauties in the LOS, this seems like a very bizarre game plan. Best of luck to you though.

Wendella
02-20-08, 05:09
Well if she is married or in the countryside, then I just won't be able to meet her, and that's that. But maybe she's still around somewhere, and if so I can try to hook up with her again. Why I'd want to hook up with her when there are so many others out there? Well, I'm sure the guys here with the most experience find themselves in that position sometimes. Same here. Not bizarre, really. I've seen enough girls to be sure there was something rare about this one, definitely enough to at least see if I can locate her again.

I think NicFrenchy's plan sounds like the one to go with for this one. Thanks. I can't make up something totally BS because if I do end up meeting the girl, it'll be a bit weird if, for example, I actually have no bracelet to return to her.

DG69
02-20-08, 07:59
I'm going to try to re-locate a girl who I met at a bar in NEP. She may or may not work there anymore, probably does not. If she doesn't, I was thinking of talking to the mamasan and offering a nice tip for help in getting hold of the girl (either mama getting hold of her and calling her to meet me, or her cel phone number, whatever).

Has anyone done something like this before? What's a good amount to offer for the help? Any other suggestions how to work this situation? I've got her name and a photo I can show.

THanks

I did once a few years ago, but without offering money. The results were disappointing. Either they told me the girl was married in Switzerland, or she was visiting her mom. In fact they don't want tell you the girl is still here, but has a long time customer who has booked her for his whole holiday, or so.
But, with offering money you might have success.

M P Lurker
02-20-08, 09:46
Well if she is married or in the countryside, then I just won't be able to meet her, and that's that. But maybe she's still around somewhere, and if so I can try to hook up with her again. Why I'd want to hook up with her when there are so many others out there? Well, I'm sure the guys here with the most experience find themselves in that position sometimes. Same here. Not bizarre, really. I've seen enough girls to be sure there was something rare about this one, definitely enough to at least see if I can locate her again.

I think NicFrenchy's plan sounds like the one to go with for this one. Thanks. I can't make up something totally BS because if I do end up meeting the girl, it'll be a bit weird if, for example, I actually have no bracelet to return to her.
Best to try to find out if one of her close friends still works there and chat to the friend. Then just be honest and ask if your phone number could be passed on or something like that. The friend might well know the approx situation.

Nic's advice was also good but mamasans might be less interested to help.

Don't like the bullshit story approach.

M P Lurker
02-20-08, 09:49
I once had a girls number written on my hand after a night out in London and the next day I realised that I'd (like a good boy as my mother always told me) had a wash before I went to bed and washed away 4 of the digits.
I like to have the monger-phone on hand, type the number straight in and ring it immediately to test it works.

Hoboken Michael
02-20-08, 16:27
hello everyone! i am in the midst of a very long vacation here in bangkok and wish to update you all about a handful of positive experiences with women who are located within a stone's throw of ll. these good times supplement the positive review that i gave ll last week and have contributed to the good time that i have had in town here.

1) first and foremost, i wish to highly recommend "pon" of powelly's sports bar. first impression is that she comes across as a sex toy. innocent, yet cute and thin as hell. english is not good unfortunately, but she is virtually gfe material in the sack with the requisite moans and groans and seems to really enjoy being with clients rather than going through the motions. if you are truly ambitious, you can look to "pen" also there (not quite as cute, but good english and pse) who is pon's best friend and is willing to do a threesome if asked.

2) a step down but still very recommendable is miss phau (pasana) of livingstone's lounge. though subjectively not quite as "stunning" as pon, she has very good english skills, a great smile that initially drew me into conversation with her, and a solid gfe in the sack. she is willing to also go out during the day and on trips (with barfine, of course) and is easily likeable and affectionate. if i had a girl with the personality and english skills of miss phau and the stunning, innocent looks of pon, i would strongly consider a barfine for several days.

3) separately speaking, i wish to very strongly recommend "mo" of cefle massage (across the street in the alley from ll). she is a top notch professional masseuse who i have been seeing approx. every other day. great skills. whether it is oil massage or thai massage and she has strong hands to really give therapeutic effect. i have not found the same thing among female masseuses either here or in buenos aires (when i was there). prices are a bit high at cefle (for example, 550 baht. plus tip. for 90 minutes of thai massage with an herbal ball), but the physical therapy has been among the most memorable i have ever had in my life.

i shall continue to come online and update more often in this second-half of my trip and hope to give newbies and regular/senior members some insight into this monger's choice of activities.

michael

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Stiffoak 571
02-20-08, 21:40
I like to have the monger-phone on hand, type the number straight in and ring it immediately to test it works.I'm so old it was pre-mobile days - so long ago that phone boxes took 10p and you still had all the phone books undamaged in every one.

Bounce Around
02-21-08, 12:01
Hello All,

I’m wrapping up my maiden three day trip to LOS; I’m going to put this report in reverse order.

Thanks to all members who provided me help in my travels, directly: Asia Traveller 2, Tansak KTV, 1Ball; and indirectly Mick Licker and his excellent guides, and all other posting members.

First day in BKK I landed at around 18:10; cleared customs and baggage claim in about 30 minutes. Checked in at LL and got my bearings, unfortunately I only changed about 200USD at the airport and had to wait till morning to change more. With what I had I thought of simply doing a soapy and possibly an overnight.

I walked around the Soi 33 area, didn’t go into any bars and realized it probably wouldn’t be my thing. Nothing especially attracted me and it was a bit hard on the pride when a fairly respectable looking guy gets no response from the girls sitting outside but a an old geezer in a wife-beater gets a kings welcome… :) well far be it from me to take things personally.

It was getting late, about 9/10 pm. I didn’t feel like straying far from the home ground, walked up and down the Soi and settled on Teen Love massage, despite its average rating seemed like the best option.

Went in, chose the VIP room with 2 girls option, the special they were having was same price for 1 or 2 girls, 800 for one hour, 1000 for 1.5, and 1200 for 2 hours. I went with 1 hour, but in retrospect should have gone for 1, it seemed that time was not rushed there.

I didn’t choose the two girls though it is an option a fairly good looking 7 by the name of ‘Ede’ or ‘Eve’ (she was pronouncing it as Edee) and a 5/6 ‘Em’ took me downstairs to the VIP room not bad at all, a bit older looking but had a nice big bed, chairs and a big Jacuzzi. Long story short they both got in the tub with me for a very good washing session, very playful both of them, touching and light kissing and nibbling on nipples did happen. It was apparent that the lower scale ‘Em’ was to be the worker.

Moved to the bed, decent green tea lotion massage from both on the back and legs with fondling and sliding on the back. Turned over and more of the same, with Ede on top and Em between my legs massaging the balls very expertly. Pricing for the FS began, weirdly enough they asked me if I had a condom (which I didn’t), said without condom 1500 for both of them (two shots if I can get them off I guess) and with condom 3000; I didn’t understand that part… we agreed on 2500 (given that I had read Eden was about that much as well, I went ahead)

Em gets on first and boy can she ride… amazing, she took her time and Ede was on top of me, getting some daty, feeding me her nipples, etc… I get on Em, Ede continues to play with my behind and balls, couldn’t finish on Em, so I get on my back again.

Ede switches condoms gets on top reverse cowboy, now she had a tight pussy, I’m feeling good. Em kisses me, offers me her boobs, gets on my face. Switch positions with me doggy style in Ede, wanting very much to explode, Em playing with me from behind and supporting me… Can’t finish.

I get on my back again, Ede comes to my faces rests my face in her small bossom, Em begins a handjob and then a BBJCIM fishes me off… we were at it a long time, and I couldn’t muster a second, we cuddle a bit, wash up and I leave happy. They did ask for a 200 tip for taxi at the end which I didn’t pay, said I would come back, which I may… :)

Went back to LL sat at the bar had a few drinks, bartender told me to check out the sports bar, didn’t quite feel like it, and since I was light in the wallet didn’t want to have any IOUs!! :) went to bed happy. Though in the morning I realized I could have used some company there and then, but it was a new day and another report to follow.

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Bounce Around
02-21-08, 13:36
In the morning went to do some sightseeing, went all over the place, came back to LL to rest and then eventually late evening made my a stop at Annies intending to get revved up and go to Soi Cowboy or RCA. The cab driver that was dropping me off there laughed and tried to stop me from going there, and seeing the shaddy type of location I thought against it, he wanted to take me to Plaza, didn’t remember anything about it, though I knew I read something. Decided to go ahead to Annies, as I was looking for the B-Course. I don’t know if I didn’t explain it right or what, but didn’t get a slide on a matteress.

Anyway, went up, greeted nicely by the bartender Aey, she told me to make my pick and said I could take one overnight for 2000 as well, if I liked her; I was leaning towards a heifer number 88 (just perverse), but decided to take number 23 who looked nice and stacked from a distant. Didn’t look old from that distance either! The bartender told me I picked a nicer ‘older’ girl, but she has very good experience; not being one to shirk a challenge and kinda wanting to do it with an older woman I went ahead.

Bought her a drink, a water for me it was 16XX bhat, left 1700 and went to the room. Now this is an older place, not very upscale. Once shes taken off the clothes, I find she’s a 2/3 charitably! But was showing a winning attitude, small old boobs and a c-section scar which she kept covered up.

Now in the tub she takes good care of you, the body slide was there, which was a nice experience, she gets reverse cowboy and squeezes her legs together supporting her arms on the tub walls begins to do ‘dips’ on me; must have amazing upper body strength. Eventually gave me a very nice long BBJCIM which she happily accomplished.

We get to the bed, massage to follow was actually pretty good. Turned over she continues the massage paying special attention to the important areas. When I finally cover up and enter, she is very tight; the scar is explained I guess. Finish off nicely and head out clean as a whistle tipped her 500. Was inclined to give her 300, but felt generous. She had a handy slip of paper printed with her email address, name and phone number which she hands me. Still thinking on how the 88 heifer would have been, but move on.

I was hungry at this point, so walk up to the suk and start walking. The first corner at the JW marriot I passby this little tight stunner, that looks at me and when I pass actually makes me do a slight double take, she did as well; I don’t think much of it, and keep walking, stop to get some smokes and when I get out shes there, makes direct eye contact and under the fluorescents I think nice, but not in the mood so I duck my eyes and keep walking.

This is my second day in BKK and my first time out strolling. SWs everywhere while I try to find a place to eat, a place called Mongos looks nice. So I stop for a bite to eat open air. SWs walking by all over the place; there was a girl actually in the restaurant, who wasn’t really a hostess I think would be available, make a mental note to check on it later after, but then she disappears (snooze you loose! ) she was a good solid 8 if not higher. Attitude would be a deciding point.

In anycase I finish my meal and decide to skip cowboy or anything and just walk back to Soi 33, which is a long walk! I’m an easy going monger and not into loud bars and drinking etc. Though did want to see a les show. Its 11:30 or so now. My session at Annies was a good long one. Walk all the way back examining the scene, which is more important to me than most things being my first time. Street walkers galore in the early part of the suk, up to soi 20? I think. Personally, I’m never on too much on a budget so wouldn’t mind staying in a good 4/5 star in this part of the Suk, and as I understand it is near to all other mongering sites like Soi cowboy or Nana, etc? Plus having seen the girls sitting outside the bars on 33, quite a few of the SWs would be just as good if not better (and cheaper) they maybe have better girls inside those bars, I don’t know?

But, in my estimation I can save the bar fine and that may well go towards a good hotel and spend the money on freelancers etc.

I make it back to LL, don’t want to sleep alone would like a breathing warm body next to me. Go to the sports bar. I know at this point the bar fine is 1000. There are 10+ girls there, I think, a few mongers and giotto relaxing with his red wine a game of pool. None of these girls were personally appealing to me, save for one who was making some eye contact with me possibly because I was sitting facing her! And to my opinion was the best of the bunch, an 8 easily IMHO, she looked uncomfortable and forlorn; or maybe she was not into me. In anycase, she’s the one I want and she’s the one I take, with an orange juice for her, Jack for me and the barfine I pay 1400 and am off to the room. Shes very cool. But frankly i’m only taking her only for the company, I don’t expect much from her, considering I am very tired, long flight from the day before, all day sightseeing, Annies, walking back, etc.

Her name was Naom or Noam or something like that, said it meant ‘moon’. We get to the room shower separately, she gets a bit more talkative, little English. She comes to the bed in a towel. We cuddle a bit, I get her out of the towel, she was saying she thought she’d be cold! In anycase, she’s a star fish; will do everything, just needs to be prodded. Similar to another member who reported recently on an LL girl, but her name was different, I think.

We do it twice, once at 5:00am and once at 10:00 (we went to sleep earlier without engaging). She does get into it, especially after daty and some tender loving care! Won’t French Kiss. Get dressed in the morning, shes happier now – maybe ‘cause she’s leaving! After we shower and brush etc, she actually does good deep french kissing initiated by her, maybe cause she’s going to get her money. She doesn’t ask for it it but as we are stepping out the door I hand her the 2000 I thought I heard very clearly that she said last night for long time. She said, no I said 3000, 2000 for ST, I said I heard 2000, and I didn’t even ask you for an ST price. It wasn’t really uncomfortable, but she was upset, and said I misunderstood. She walks me down to breakfast and we say goodbye.

Despite the luke warm report, I enjoyed being with her, she was a nice girl, great body and eventually very good. Price was not bad either, obviously tack on the other 1000 that she wanted, I don't know. I would have actually given it to her too, had she insisted but she didn't.

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Member #4643
02-21-08, 14:58
Can any of you Thailand experts recommend a website for meeting non pro Thai ladies? I have just been asked to go to Thailand on business, and after much protestation that it was too far away, too crazy a place, etc, I gave in to my boss and agreed to go! I like to mix non pros in with the bar scene when I travel, and usually arrange these in advance by romancing the girls through the internet. But all the sites I can find are basically pay marriage sites.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks F

Traveler1234
02-21-08, 15:05
Can any of you Thailand experts recommend a website for meeting non pro Thai ladies?

Other more knowledgeable (and non-mongers) might know better or have a different opinion. But if you're planning a short business trip, chances of meeting a real non-pro slim to zero.

If you're single, young and hang for a while with honorable intentions, there are places and opportunities. If you're in town for business, short visits, married, etc.....try hunting the clubs and burn the candle at both ends.

Good luck.

Leo2000
02-21-08, 15:39
I'm going to try to re-locate a girl who I met at a bar in NEP. She may or may not work there anymore, probably does not. If she doesn't, I was thinking of talking to the mamasan and offering a nice tip for help in getting hold of the girl (either mama getting hold of her and calling her to meet me, or her cel phone number, whatever).

Has anyone done something like this before? What's a good amount to offer for the help? Any other suggestions how to work this situation? I've got her name and a photo I can show.

THanksTo start with give one or 2 LD to the Mamasan before you ask and she might be helpful until you have gained a lot confidence they do not give you the details, maybe some the BG who have benn working could help with her cell no., Manasan has the complete details, id, home address, etc., but they do not give these to anybody who jst ask. In case she moved out with longterm sponsor, she for sure to change her cell.

Cheers

NicFrenchy
02-21-08, 22:04
Can any of you Thailand experts recommend a website for meeting non pro Thai ladies? Forget it.

As T1234 stated earlier, your chances are very slim if you're in for a short period of time. You can definitely pull a couple dates with girls, dinners & drinks but few will give up their pussies if there is no chance of a "Boyfriend/Gik/Husband" relationship.

I have at the moment 3 giks (on top of P4P), from which one is my hairdresser (1 year before she gave in). You can try Camfrog http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=707157&postcount=3725

And, before I forget, non P4P bangkokian women, when invited by Farangs tend to want to go to fancy restaurants and order expensive dishes so bring a wad of Cash. I believe if you are here on a tourist visa, P4P works out to be cheaper.

Orange Sunshine
02-22-08, 00:36
Can any of you Thailand experts recommend a website for meeting non pro Thai ladies? I have just been asked to go to Thailand on business, and after much protestation that it was too far away, too crazy a place, etc, I gave in to my boss and agreed to go! I like to mix non pros in with the bar scene when I travel, and usually arrange these in advance by romancing the girls through the internet. But all the sites I can find are basically pay marriage sites.First of all, you're not going to get any sympathy from me being sent over to Thailand on business (even if you have to fly coach!). hehe

I've met some nice girls at the following sites. The first one requires a nominal membership fee to contact girls. Just keep in mind there are pros working these sites but if you wade through what you don't want, the straight ahead girls emerge eventually.

http://thailovelinks.com/
http://www.thailandfriends.com/

M P Lurker
02-22-08, 05:51
Forget it.

As T1234 stated earlier, your chances are very slim if you're in for a short period of time. You can definitely pull a couple dates with girls, dinners & drinks but few will give up their pussies if there is no chance of a "Boyfriend/Gik/Husband" relationship.

I have at the moment 3 giks (on top of P4P), from which one is my hairdresser (1 year before she gave in). You can try Camfrog http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=707157&postcount=3725

And, before I forget, non P4P bangkokian women, when invited by Farangs tend to want to go to fancy restaurants and order expensive dishes so bring a wad of Cash. I believe if you are here on a tourist visa, P4P works out to be cheaper.

I have learned that it is best not to let a Thai choose a fancy restaurant, especially if she has never been there before.
If she suggests one, you need to find out if it is a rip-off place first.

One me and a mate were taken to Bankok Palace Seafood near corner of Sukhumwit and Asoke. The girls chose it but had never been there.

The food was very expensive and the girls asked for costly stuff.
One girl left quickly before eating anything.
I suspect an important Gik had called up and she was cheating on her regular BF.
The girls ate very little in general despite ordering a lot.
They like to order what they think the guys will want, which is Thai custom but silly.
The Thai music and dancing on the stage made talking nearly impossible.

Overall cost was very exhorbitant.
My mate ended up marrying one of the girls despite the bad start to the relationship. She wasn't even pretty and figure very ordinary.

I knew I could have chosen a much better Seafood restaurant at a fraction of the cost. It was only a social dinner. I had no interest either of the girls, but plenty of money down the tubes.
I think the bill was over 6000 Baht.

Giotto
02-22-08, 07:04
Somebody interested in Pegasus Club?

Stickman's report about it:

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickMarkII/TheIllusionOfDecadence.htm


Giotto

NicFrenchy
02-22-08, 10:11
Somebody interested in Pegasus Club?

GiottoWell, that depends.

I could rent a lady @ 900thb, rent a balcony for 3k and treat myself to a 45 minutes BBBJ.

Maybe we could call it the Naughty corner! but wait, someone already thought of that! Bummer! see you at Afterskool.

AsiaTraveler2
02-22-08, 10:32
<cut>It was getting late, about 9/10 pm. I didn’t feel like straying far from the home ground, walked up and down the Soi and settled on Teen Love massage, despite its average rating seemed like the best option.<cut>



Love Teen massage get's mixed reviews and some consider it over rated. I have had good times there, with only the rooms as my biggest negative about that place. You did the right thing in paying a bit more for the larger room. The last time I was there about a year ago, there was a 20 girl lineup and a couple of attractive girls.

They have take out available too and it's especially convenient if you are at LL.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
02-22-08, 10:38
Somebody interested in Pegasus Club?

Stickman's report about it:

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickMarkII/TheIllusionOfDecadence.htm


Giotto

Anyone have any recent reports on Pegasus? I recall seeing one recent post, but not much else, other than a mixture of recommendations and avoid comments. Last time there for me, was about 3 years ago. I always saw that place as early 70's Hugh Hefner Playboy Mansion meets Cesaers Palace Las Vegas. A bit gaudy, but fun and different.

I just never found the lineups very spectacular, although an occassional gem could be found. You don't need to be a member, but the drinks and barfine are very high priced, relative to other options. Roughly Soi 33 prices. The drinks were more expensive.

AT2

Pedro 917
02-22-08, 15:13
Hi,

Can anyone tell me where to find Thermae? Where I remember it being is now a big hole in the ground, assume another condo going up.

I have seen recent posts about it so they must have relocated!

Thanks,

Pedro 917

Bounce Around
02-22-08, 16:54
Love Teen massage get's mixed reviews and some consider it over rated. I have had good times there, with only the rooms as my biggest negative about that place. You did the right thing in paying a bit more for the larger room. The last time I was there about a year ago, there was a 20 girl lineup and a couple of attractive girls.

They have take out available too and it's especially convenient if you are at LL.

AT2Actually, I did just that on my last night in BKK!

And, I can tell you it was one of my best mongering (or even non-mongering times ever! ) I had had a long day just roaming BKK, got a VERY good legit massage at Chamcham next to Phantip plaza. Though its not for those on a budget total bill was 2200BHT, the room with a jacuzzi was bigger than my 'suite' at LL, and far more luxurious.

I had gotten back to LL late in the evening, rested a bit, then had all intention to check out Soi Cowboy or possibly hit Eden for a PSE, after getting a good thai meal. Went to the thai resturaunt next to LL. Had a very spicy meal, Fresh oysters, tom yum kong, and a spicy fish curry that was rated the most spicy dish on the menu, infact they asked me three times if I was sure. In the end it was 10: 30 and I was sweating profusly from every orifice in my body. On the plus side the manager was impressed with my stamina and said 'you eat good'. The bill was about 1200, I had an early morning start the next day (and was half way through a bottle of champagne)so decided to skip cowboy, thought about pulling a ST fro LL sports bar, but decided instead to call up Love Teen and have the aforementioned Eed come to my room. Found out that she had left already. I picked Bee from their website.

I don't know if it was common chemistry or what, but from the moment she entered the door our lips locked and didn't let go. The sex was great, we did everything under the sun and then some (this girl can get on top and RIDE! ), she had brought three condoms and we used all of them. The both of us were torn between having her stay or leave, but in the end I figured it would be best if she left (at around 1:30). I thought hard about even mentioning her name, but she's on their website and she's going to continue doing this job, so what the heck. And, I don't know when I'll get back to see her again. My only request, which goes without saying, is to treat every girl with respect and dignity, as I do at all times. YMMV. The damage was supposed to be 2500, I gave her 3000. Didn't really discuss getting change back but neither was prompted by her for money in the first place.

Frankly this was my first time in BKK, and I don't know the whole deal between Issan and Thai girls, but Bee is from Issan and frankly she could be the only reason I return to BKK. Of course I am over romanticizing the whole thing (come to think of it I guess all the girls I met were from the 'country side', which is actually what I wanted, I can get fair skinned girls in China, where I go for not only P4P, but also have some friends who are educated and well off)

In conclusion, I had a great first trip; barely scratched the surface of the mongering in Thailand. I was ambivilant about my experience beforehand and have had a 180 deg change of heart. Will try to stop in Thailand every time I travel to China/HKG for biz. Hell, maybe even try to get some biz in Thailand. Now that would be getting your cake and eating it too. Or should I say 'pie'!

Next time, though I would stay at a hotel in the early part of Suk; possibly not directly connected to a major mongering location like LL and Soi 33, that'll probably give me more incentive to venture out.

Again, thanks for all the reports and help on this forum. All you lurkers be men and pay up, support the forum!

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Infomatic
02-22-08, 22:00
Hi,

Can anyone tell me where to find Thermae? Where I remember it being is now a big hole in the ground, assume another condo going up.

I have seen recent posts about it so they must have relocated!

Thanks,

Pedro 917Thermae is after Soi 15 on Sukhumvit, there is a stairway, get down. You can miss it, it is not advertised like any bar in BKK, and it is "underground".

(soi mean Little Street in Thai)

Infomatic
02-22-08, 22:03
Anyone have any recent reports on Pegasus? I recall seeing one recent post, but not much else, other than a mixture of recommendations and avoid comments. Last time there for me, was about 3 years ago. I always saw that place as early 70's Hugh Hefner Playboy Mansion meets Cesaers Palace Las Vegas. A bit gaudy, but fun and different.

I just never found the lineups very spectacular, although an occassional gem could be found. You don't need to be a member, but the drinks and barfine are very high priced, relative to other options. Roughly Soi 33 prices. The drinks were more expensive.

AT2I was at Pegasus last week. You would have marry more than half of them!

Honestly I do not what place in BKK can match Pegasus quality.

Infomatic
02-22-08, 22:22
What time does Edens open9 AM closes @ Midnight.

Dirty Tom
02-23-08, 05:04
... but decided instead to call up Love Teen and have the aforementioned Eed come to my room. Found out that she had left already. I picked Bee from their website.


If you go in, they have many more gals which are not listed on their website - they have an album that you can browse through and if you insist at the reception - they can line them up for you as well...

Good catch dude!

GoodEnough
02-23-08, 06:44
Thank you for the references to Love Teen. I'm going back to Bangkok after an absence of two or three years sometime in April, and I just checked out the web page. Some of the girls are really adorable, and I'll be sure to look the place up when I'm there and to write a report. I assume from the various posts that I don't even have to go there and can just call and request one of the ladies whose pictures appear on the website.

M P Lurker
02-23-08, 06:51
9 AM closes @ Midnight.Unless Eden has changed recently 9AM is not correct. Star of Light is one of few that opens 9AM.

The following web site (remove the blank) claims Eden opens 12.30PM
http://www.private bangkok.com/eden-club-bangkok/

The second web site claims 1PM
http://www.bkk-gui.de/ede_eng_f.htm

This info comes from my Bangkok Ref List
"Bangkok Massage Parlour List with Maps & Internet Web Links V1":
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=695846&postcount=3304
Eden was included even though not strictly an MP.
They do have forms of dick massage :D
Somehow I got the opening time wrong though (misprints happen).

The definitive expert is probably Evil Penivil:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=685488&highlight=Eden+opens#post685488

For general education, I found Evil's report easily by clicking on "Search this Thread" then in the pull down box, I typed:
Eden+opens
and hit enter.
That does a search for reports with both words "Eden" and "opens" contained in the text. This highlighted Evil's report very quickly.

So its easy to Search the F Forum. :)

NicFrenchy
02-23-08, 10:18
Eden Opens at 12:30pm (Officially 13:00 but they let you come in and Choose as early as 12:30)

Eden Closes at 12:00 midnight but a lot of Girls are allowed to leave (for Takeout from 10pm) so not much of a selection after 22:00.

One Tree Hill
02-23-08, 13:55
9 AM closes @ Midnight.

Per my visit yesterday I can CONFIRM a 1pm opening as per the "menu" card.

Fresh Meat
02-23-08, 17:56
HI

I am planning to visit BKK and need advice from other fellow mongers on the following :-

1. GF Hotels and their rates and whether they can be book online.

2. Where to get pussy for ST and LT.

3. Is the Ho chi minh city a better place in terms of pussy than hanoi and if yes then how long it takes to travel to ho chi minh and the mode of travel available.

I have gone thru some of the reports but I would like to know the pick up joints and whether free lancers can be picked if so and which place.

would love to hear on these.

what is the average cost for a pussy per night and also ST

I would like the hotel tariff to be around 10 - 20 usd

Cheers

Fresh Meat

Kroshka
02-23-08, 19:01
Can anybody inform me about some bars/clubs where they do nude sex show and lesbian shows. Somewhere near Nana Plaza. And what time do those clubs open/close. I guess in general there are no entrance fee for those bars/clubs. So you can just walk in a check if it is good to stay. Or if I should check out another place instead. Or am I wrong?

Etaoin2003
02-24-08, 02:15
I would like the hotel tariff to be around 10 - 20 usd


That's backpacker flophouse pricing. I don't think you're going to find anything GF and hotel-like in that range anywhere near Nana.

http://www.sawadee.com/hotels/bangkok.html is a good resource for Internet-bookable hotels. Look at the Sukhumvit hotels and search the forum for reviews.

Your other questions are in the FAQ except for the one about Vietnam travel. I'd fly Air Asia or Nok Air, discount carriers.

M P Lurker
02-24-08, 03:37
Can anybody inform me about some bars/clubs where they do nude sex show and lesbian shows. Somewhere near Nana Plaza. And what time do those clubs open/close. I guess in general there are no entrance fee for those bars/clubs. So you can just walk in a check if it is good to stay. Or if I should check out another place instead. Or am I wrong?
If you click on "Search this Thread" then put
nude+shows
in the box and hit "go"
Then you will see all the posts about Soi Cowboy bars Suzie Wong, Long Gun, etc.
There is no entrance fee.

NicFrenchy
02-24-08, 05:34
Can anybody inform me about some bars/clubs where they do nude sex show and lesbian shows. Somewhere near Nana Plaza. And what time do those clubs open/close.I have not heard of any NEP club offering Lesbian shows.

However, here's what I suggest:

Cheap Option:

Go to Soi Cowboy, Suzy Wongs has the best Lez show (around 22h30 I think), walk in, no entrance fee, have a beer or 2 and Enjoy.

Cost: Approx Thb 500

Expensive Option:

Go to Eden Club on Soi 7/1, Pick 2 girls and enjoy 90 minutes of Live Porn sex, where you decide what happends: Lesbian, Anal, BJ... the whole works for as long as you can handle.

Cost: Approx Thb 5000 (with Drinks & Tips)