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I was at Spasso (Grand Hyatt) with a GF a couple of months ago and was impressed with the quality of the freelancers. I almost got in trouble with my girl.
Can anyone help with how much are these girls charging for ST and LT.
ThanksThere was some brouhaha some time back on these pages regarding the amount I paid. I paid 6000 for the first alnighter. 4000 for a short time girl the second time (2 hours) and 4000 for a girl who left for office after lunch with me on my next visit. If someone has better numbers, let us know so that we can benefit.
I talked to many girls and 4000 is the absolute minimum quoted for any girl that I liked.
This is my 2 cents as reply to above. If someone doesn't agree with what I paid, there's nothing to be done now!
McM
LittleBigMan
10-19-11, 14:11
Cont.
That standard was I was suppose to let it go? I was told pretty much that the guy doesn't have the money and that he needs to feed his family. I was made to feel because I was a farang that if someone stole from me that it was okay for me to loose it. The Thais don't seem to understand or care that the money lost affected my family. In another situation I used the court system only to be told later by another lawyer as a Farang the system in these situation was useless, you should have stuck with previous choice and pay the mafia to knock him off.
Regardless, how much we tell Thais that we are not all loaded in cash and we are just like Thais, some have it, some don't and there are many in between. It doesn't sink in! They ask to borrow money and promise to pay back when they have no means to do so and when you question them they are offended and loose face. I certainly don't feel Thais hate me but the closes I could come is that they feel because we are here or live here they are entitled to cheat or ask us to pay more. Just this year I was at Royal Garden with my son and his friend they wanted to see the Wax museum. Jack Spirro, of Pirates of Carribean told the cashier to charge me Farang price. I told the guy " Ding Dong " I have live here for nearly 10 years at what point do you think I could pay Thai price " another fruit loop Thai shot back at me and said " if you have been here 10 years you should have a Thai driver license " I show him one and he didn't say a thing then I lecture all of them in front of everyone that I'm just like you! That when you bleed your blood is red so is mines.
I don't disagree that no race has a lock on rudeness and have seen many Farangs act poorly but I don't think this topic is about rudeness. While Thai men walk away from there responsibility to their kids because they can't control their little head but when a Farang does it is not acceptible. I have heard more than my share of Thai women sitting around in discussion as to how get a Farang and what you should expect from them. The first thing they seem to compare with each other is how much they are getting from the sucker. It's like a game or a badge of honor as to how much one gets they have a school of their own. They have a expectation that the man should take care of them if he is a Farang but that standard doesn't apply to a Thai.
For years I have been told that I need to be 100% Thai, This would never be asked of a white guy because his skin can't be changed but because I look like one of them they have no problem with the request. I have sat with so many Thai girls asking me how to get a Farang? What do they like? Teach me. I sit now and just smile like a Thai man smiling and drinking my Sansome. Saying anything or giving too much advice sooner or later they get upset or loose face. I'm Chinese and have been throughout China and never have ever experience so much loosing face from a culture like the Thais. When I first came on this board I was told by a long standing member who got kicked off that saying the culture is backwards is being kind.
As Fon Tok noted there are worst places and Thailand overall is pretty good but stay with just the pussy. But when you live here that is easier said than done the more you become entrence into the country it can sour you. I have been but the last few years I am trying to reinvent myself and I'm slowly transforming myself to many of the Thai ways and one of them is just smile and try not to let it get to me. Now I do as Thai men do let your little head do the leading. I use to feel guilty but now I have no problem fucking a Thai mans wife if she wants a shoulder to cry on because he is out being a butterfly. I have been in bars and after they hear my story have given me what I call simpity fucks while I'm getting sucked off I thinking only in Thailand LOS!
I have committed myself to never allowing this country and people to beat me down or take away my joy for life. I have allow those that have wrong me in the past to move on except for one and god help him and his family the day I find him. Meantime I am transforming and I'm becoming their worse nightmare. I'm a Farang that knows too much and look like them and that has many plus with Thai women but in the end I am no better or worse than you guys except this ATM has limitation. The women believe what they want and I always tell them the truth " I have no money to take care of you " they believe what they want but when I'm done I pay them and thank them. I walk away knowing that I still treat everyone the same with respect until they deserve otherwise. I have been jaded and I guard myself and say very little because my life is in Thailand.
They don't hate us but boy they sure think we owe them something that isn't expected from their own people?
Enjoy and thanks for allowing me to vent. LBM
If you limit your life and time in Thailand to just "pussy," you will miss out on a lot that it has to offer. Just my opinion. :)The main draw for most foreign men to come to LOS is for the cheap available pussy. Being that this is a sex board I assume most guys here fit in that category. Now lets imagine that tomorrow the thais closed all their sex venues to foreigners and the only available pussy was fat ugly Thai women at $300 / short time. How many mongers would continue to spend their time here to enjoy the other things on offer?
ElHombreContento
10-19-11, 15:01
Cont.
That standard was I was suppose to let it go? I was told pretty much that the guy doesn't have the money and that he needs to feed his family. I was made to feel because I was a farang that if someone stole from me that it was okay for me to loose it. The Thais don't seem to understand or care that the money lost affected my family. In another situation I used the court system only to be told later by another lawyer as a Farang the system in these situation was useless, you should have stuck with previous choice and pay the mafia to knock him off.
Regardless, how much we tell Thais that we are not all loaded in cash and we are just like Thais, some have it, some don't and there are many in between. It doesn't sink in! They ask to borrow money and promise to pay back when they have no means to do so and when you question them they are offended and loose face. I certainly don't feel Thais hate me but the closes I could come is that they feel because we are here or live here they are entitled to cheat or ask us to pay more. Just this year I was at Royal Garden with my son and his friend they wanted to see the Wax museum. Jack Spirro, of Pirates of Carribean told the cashier to charge me Farang price. I told the guy " Ding Dong " I have live here for nearly 10 years at what point do you think I could pay Thai price " another fruit loop Thai shot back at me and said " if you have been here 10 years you should have a Thai driver license " I show him one and he didn't say a thing then I lecture all of them in front of everyone that I'm just like you! That when you bleed your blood is red so is mines.
I don't disagree that no race has a lock on rudeness and have seen many Farangs act poorly but I don't think this topic is about rudeness. While Thai men walk away from there responsibility to their kids because they can't control their little head but when a Farang does it is not acceptible. I have heard more than my share of Thai women sitting around in discussion as to how get a Farang and what you should expect from them. The first thing they seem to compare with each other is how much they are getting from the sucker. It's like a game or a badge of honor as to how much one gets they have a school of their own. They have a expectation that the man should take care of them if he is a Farang but that standard doesn't apply to a Thai.
For years I have been told that I need to be 100% Thai, This would never be asked of a white guy because his skin can't be changed but because I look like one of them they have no problem with the request. I have sat with so many Thai girls asking me how to get a Farang? What do they like? Teach me. I sit now and just smile like a Thai man smiling and drinking my Sansome. Saying anything or giving too much advice sooner or later they get upset or loose face. I'm Chinese and have been throughout China and never have ever experience so much loosing face from a culture like the Thais. When I first came on this board I was told by a long standing member who got kicked off that saying the culture is backwards is being kind.
As Fon Tok noted there are worst places and Thailand overall is pretty good but stay with just the pussy. But when you live here that is easier said than done the more you become entrence into the country it can sour you. I have been but the last few years I am trying to reinvent myself and I'm slowly transforming myself to many of the Thai ways and one of them is just smile and try not to let it get to me. Now I do as Thai men do let your little head do the leading. I use to feel guilty but now I have no problem fucking a Thai mans wife if she wants a shoulder to cry on because he is out being a butterfly. I have been in bars and after they hear my story have given me what I call simpity fucks while I'm getting sucked off I thinking only in Thailand LOS!
I have committed myself to never allowing this country and people to beat me down or take away my joy for life. I have allow those that have wrong me in the past to move on except for one and god help him and his family the day I find him. Meantime I am transforming and I'm becoming their worse nightmare. I'm a Farang that knows too much and look like them and that has many plus with Thai women but in the end I am no better or worse than you guys except this ATM has limitation. The women believe what they want and I always tell them the truth " I have no money to take care of you " they believe what they want but when I'm done I pay them and thank them. I walk away knowing that I still treat everyone the same with respect until they deserve otherwise. I have been jaded and I guard myself and say very little because my life is in Thailand.
They don't hate us but boy they sure think we owe them something that isn't expected from their own people?
Enjoy and thanks for allowing me to vent. LBMHi LittleBigMan,
I just met a local girl today who just wanted to meet and just be friends first. I met her here at one of the Mall in Bangkok. I first we went to the Starsbucks and we talked for a bit. Then she tells me that she has to go and buy a dress for her brother wedding and hair curly iron. She asked me if I wanted to go with her. I tell her to be with her would be my pleasure. We go to another Mall and she goes on to tell me that all of the foreigners come to shop here. That is the first hint that I get as to what is coming up. Oh, before I go she STATES rather strongle that we are only friends and nothing else. I tell her I agree with her. We go to many of the store looking for a dress first, she finds one but tells me,"Dress cost to much money". We then go to a place where they sell the hair curling iron, she looks at it and then say to me that it cost too much. We then proceed to go where the cell outlets are and she looking at Iphones. She say again they cost to much and she does not have the money. I was lost at this point and I asked myself is she expecting for me to pay for the Dress. So I like a sucker go Ahead and pay for the Dress, Hair Curly Iron and a women pocketbook that she wanted. All I got for it was a thank you at the train station and I will see you some time later. I said to myself that is what I get for being nice. Before she left I asked her can I come and visit you at your house. She tells me that I can not visit her house because parents would get mad. My one question to you ans since you know culture, was that true what she told me that I could visit because of her parents?
I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.
ElHombreContento
10-19-11, 15:03
The main draw for most foreign men to come to LOS is for the cheap available pussy. Being that this is a sex board I assume most guys here fit in that category. Now lets imagine that tomorrow the thais closed all their sex venues to foreigners and the only available pussy was fat ugly Thai women at $300 / short time. How many mongers would continue to spend their time here to enjoy the other things on offer?Why would you want to fuck a fat ugly women when you can most likely get that back home anytime you wanted. Why travel almost 28 hours (in my case) to fuck some beastly looking animal. There are whales and dogs back home that I can fuck and save myself the airplane and hotel fare.
LittleBigMan
10-19-11, 16:09
EHContento,
I no expert on Thai culture!
But she didn't lie to you after everythng she didn't have sex with you so she kept her word just friends.
When she went shopping everything was too expensive? too expensive for her if she had to buy with her own money! But it was okay for you to buy so you figure it out already without me having to tell you.
When it isn't your money its great. I have lots of Thai women mad at me because Farangs over coffee ask me if their girlfriends or wife ideas are any good? I tell them to tell their girlfriends or wife to first go to a bank with their idea and if the bank will loan them the money you should go ahead and give or loan them the money without interest.
Here unless you plan to marry them don't meet the parents. She did you a favor by not taking you home? Bringing you home might have given her parents that she is working in a bar etc. When she isn't or don't want them to know?
Also, go easy on Amjeck, you just purchase all that stuff for a Thai girl and got nothing but a thank you for it after all those hours on a flight when you yourself could have stay home and done tje same thing and gotten the same thank you?
If you don't know by now Amjeck likes his women big,fat, ugly and CHEAP and will spend the time on a long flight to get it?
LBM
Hi LittleBigMan,
I just met a local girl today who just wanted to meet and just be friends first. I met her here at one of the Mall in Bangkok. I first we went to the Starsbucks and we talked for a bit. Then she tells me that she has to go and buy a dress for her brother wedding and hair curly iron. She asked me if I wanted to go with her. I tell her to be with her would be my pleasure. We go to another Mall and she goes on to tell me that all of the foreigners come to shop here. That is the first hint that I get as to what is coming up. Oh, before I go she STATES rather strongle that we are only friends and nothing else. I tell her I agree with her. We go to many of the store looking for a dress first, she finds one but tells me,"Dress cost to much money". We then go to a place where they sell the hair curling iron, she looks at it and then say to me that it cost too much. We then proceed to go where the cell outlets are and she looking at Iphones. She say again they cost to much and she does not have the money. I was lost at this point and I asked myself is she expecting for me to pay for the Dress. So I like a sucker go Ahead and pay for the Dress, Hair Curly Iron and a women pocketbook that she wanted. All I got for it was a thank you at the train station and I will see you some time later. I said to myself that is what I get for being nice. Before she left I asked her can I come and visit you at your house. She tells me that I can not visit her house because parents would get mad. My one question to you ans since you know culture, was that true what she told me that I could visit because of her parents?
I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.Is this a joke, are you serious? You met a woman today and you decided to buy her a dress, a pocketbook and a hair iron? Why? Is that the way men operate in your culture or better yet would you do this to a woman you met in your hometown after she told you up front that she only wants to be friends? This has nothing to do with thai culture and you were not railroaded because this has to be shtick.
Dear friends.
Why do you use thid thread to discuss this matter?
The Forum has other threads to discuss such matters.
This is a "Bangkok Reports" thread.
Forgive me if I am wrong
Wolvenvacht
10-19-11, 19:34
I just met a local girl today who just wanted to meet and just be friends first. .
I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.You are too funny! Can I just be your friend too? I need a new laptop and a scooter and flatscreen TV, but it is too expensive.
Crocodilexp
10-19-11, 19:42
You mentiond China town as being a hot spot for the action and you said you got a service for 500. But you did not indicate time spent. How much time did you get with the Girl for 500?The deal in Thai low-end areas (like Chinatown) with 300-500 baht fares is always wham-bam-thank-you-mam. As long as it takes you to finish. I guess that's 10-20 minutes on average, although I had a longer session ( 50 min) with one of the girls (and gave her a 100 baht tip). Not GFE, although anything can be negotiated.
Are there any other areas of Bankok that are hot spots? I know ElHombreContento mentioned Nana; what and where is this?Sometimes we forget how daunting this pile of discussions is to newbies. Try a simple guide like http://nana-soi-cowboy-redlight-guide.weebly.com/
If you don't know where Nana Plaza is, don't bother going to Thai areas like Chinatown for mongering. You are guaranteed to have a lousy time there compared to the Farang areas. On the other hand, the seafood is quite fine.
I think that I am having more great times and less duds through experience to recognise the girl's level of enthusiasm, and since the ISG has been making me aware of the best places and also the places to not bother.On the one hand, all the old hands might say that "things aren't like they used to be anymore," or "it's getting worse." I would say that I miss those Friday and Saturday nights when there just seemed to be a ton of freelancers in the BG or Gullivers that you'd never seen before, that worked regular jobs during the week, just coming out to make some extra cash. How many girls did I have in my rolodex who were sweet, came and spent the night, never ever asked about how much, and even at 1000 baht a time, would still come back again and again. Yeah, those days do seem kind of few and far in between. But I completely agree, on the other hand I have gotten far more experienced and wiser. My instincts are good, and my success ratios are very high, and I still seem to have a big grin on my face as the girls strut their sexy butts down the hallway. You learn exactly what you like, what you don't like, what you will put up with and what you won't, and you get rid of 80% of the excess garbage.
The deal in Thai low-end areas (like Chinatown) with
300-500 baht fares is always wham-bam-thank-you-mam. As long as it takes you to
Finish. I guess that's 10-20 minutes on average, although I had a longer
Session (50 min) with one of the girls (and gave her a 100 baht tip). Not GFE,
Although anything can be negotiated.Well 500 bah for a third world contory in less then half an hour.
That sound very expencive.
I would of thought you could have the whole night for that.
I was speaking to someone today in person and he reconds that Pattaya is cheaper then bankok.
Can someone please clarify this?
LittleBigMan
10-20-11, 01:57
Dear friends.
Why do you use thid thread to discuss this matter?
The Forum has other threads to discuss such matters.
This is a "Bangkok Reports" thread.
Forgive me if I am wrongIn all due respect. Please define for me aside from Sex what should be in the Bangkok Report Thread. If the weather relates to Bangkok we should be able to talk about weather. If food relates to Bangkok we should be able to talk about food. If culture or people relates to Bangkok we should be able to talk about culture and people. If you are looking for a site that is perfect and only stick to a specific topic and posters never get off track this isn't it and never will be, so yes in my opinion you are wrong and you are forgiven. This is the Bangkok thread patients and good things will come?
LBM
Well 500 bah for a third world contory in less then half an hour.
That sound very expencive.
I would of thought you could have the whole night for that.
I was speaking to someone today in person and he reconds that Pattaya is cheaper then bankok.
Can someone please clarify this?Geez, from the questions you asked, you obviously didn't read the forum. Although it does take effort to go thru all the BS.
But I'll answer some of your questions; maybe you'll stop asking everywhere. I think it's funny when the bandwidth police complains about people wasting, but then they waste the same bandwidth complaining.
Thailand is not 3rd world. It should be 2nd world. The Thai baht got a lot stronger. If you think 500 baht ($15 US) is expensive, then you need to go to a cheaper destination.
You also asked on the other threads about cheap sex destinations. Cambodia is the cheapest out of the big 3 (Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines). You can get it between $5 to $10 at the cheap dirty shack brothels; maybe a little bit cheaper if you try to be a cheap local. It still will be a one shot deal. If you want to eat, sleep and fuck for the cheapest price, it will be Cambodia.
Vietnam has cheap food and guesthouses, but the P4P scene is a hassle. You can get $10 BJs. Vietnam can be cheap, only if you are experienced and don't want the hot looking girls.
Burma, from what I read (never been there) , might be cheap as / or cheaper than Cambodia. But the infrastructure isn't there. Mexico and definitely Brazil will be more expensive than Cambodia.
If you want cheaper, my guess would be to go to Africa where people are starving. There you might be able to get some for cake (just like some of those UN peacekeepers).
Of course Pattaya is cheaper than Bangkok. The main capital of a country is always more expensive. 1 or 2 hours away is always cheaper. Pattaya and Angeles is cheaper than Bangkok and Manila.
Mr Enternational
10-20-11, 03:46
Is this a joke, are you serious? You met a woman today and you decided to buy her a dress, a pocketbook and a hair iron? Why? Is that the way men operate in your culture or better yet would you do this to a woman you met in your hometown after she told you up front that she only wants to be friends? This has nothing to do with thai culture and you were not railroaded because this has to be shtick.That was most definitely a joke. Nobody is that naive (read stupid).
Mr Enternational
10-20-11, 04:26
Regardless, how much we tell Thais that we are not all loaded in cash and we are just like Thais, some have it, some don't and there are many in between. It doesn't sink in!Last time I entered the country the immigration guy looked in my passport and asked why I had been to Thailand so many times this year. I told him that I lived here. He said so you are rich. I said if I was rich I probably wouldn't live here in a 4,500 baht/month room.
I certainly don't feel Thais hate me but the closes I could come is that they feel because we are here or live here they are entitled to cheat or ask us to pay more. Just this year I was at Royal Garden with my son and his friend they wanted to see the Wax museum. Jack Spirro, of Pirates of Carribean told the cashier to charge me Farang price. I told the guy " Ding Dong " I have live here for nearly 10 years at what point do you think I could pay Thai price " another fruit loop Thai shot back at me and said " if you have been here 10 years you should have a Thai driver license " I show him one and he didn't say a thingI'm a bit different from you. I am quick to whip out my license and tell them that I live here and I'm not going to pay farang price. That always sets them straight. I met a group of guys in the airport coming to Pattaya and decided to take a van with them. There was a lady holding a sign outside immigration and asked if we needed transportation. I told her yes. A van for 9 people. She said 2500 baht. I told her in Thai while showing her my license that I live here and I am not crazy. I will give you 1500 baht. She said okay let me call the boss. 10 minutes later the driver arrived and walked us out to the van.
I'm a Farang that knows too much and look like them and that has many plus with Thai women but in the end I am no better or worse than you guys except this ATM has limitation. The women believe what they want and I always tell them the truth " I have no money to take care of you "The more you tell them this, the more they want you. I have a wingman in town who always tells the women to stay with the guy who is sending them money and paying them a lot because he is not going to do it. But for some reason they always want to forego the money. The other day we were sitting with a group of girls and I was telling them that we do not want to be #1, we want to be #2. #1 has too many responsibilities and has to send money and take shit from them. #2 is the guy they just want to have fun with and money has nothing to do with it. The girl he is with now has been with him for the last few days and he is giving her 800 baht / day.
Without going into detail I came to reside in Thailand (Pattaya) for many reasons much different than many of you.Without going into the reasons? Look to be honest I assume most would not be in Pattaya it wasn't for cheap pussy.
Okay I do undertsnad that Pattaya does not have same cultural standards as the rest of Thailand. Anything goes, right?
I was last in Pattaya (south Pattaya / Jomtien) 15 years ago and I was not impressed at all.
Dirty beaches with rubbish floating in the water. Too many tourists. Worse than Patong beach Phuket.
Since then, I can find far better Beach resorts. E. G. Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi, some beaches in Phuket, even Koh Samet.
Samui is okay but a bit boring for me and expensive to get to. Koh Samet is closer cheaper alternative.
I would like to try Koh Lanta too.
Koh Lipe (Satun province) was my favourite for nature although probably no sex available there unless take your own or hook up.
Koh Lipe seemed to have no Americans nor British.
Tourists seemed to be mostly Scandanavian and many family groups looking for unspoiled nature.
My other favorite province in Thailand is Mae Hong Son (pronounced: mae hawng sawn). Don't know if sex is available easily (but probably is).
What else attracts to Pattaya?
LittleBigMan
10-20-11, 06:00
Mr. E,
Since many Thais in my opinion will never be able to leave this country by air. If they are it wouldn't be often? When I tell Thais what I have to pay to fly just to be away for a few weeks their expression is it is more than what they make in a year. Just the fact we can do things like fly or even spend money on a cup of coffee at Starbucks gives the wrong impression that we are all rich? My cousin is here now and tells all the girls he doesn't have any money but barfines them and take them to Fuji, KFC, Coffee 94, MK, etc. It is a contradiction and Thais think we are cheap and just lying to them.
I carry a I. D. To drive, I don't feel I have to wear it around my neck to tell them I live here. Being a miniority in the USA I don't think I should have to wear my birth certificate to let people know I was born in the USA I go around acting if I was home unless I'm ask I don't provide. I too recently came back from the States with my brother and miss the Bell bus because of the long lines at immigration. With lots of lugguge and it raining I didn't want to play around so I went to the taxi stand which I know is 1500 baht to Pattaya. I spoke a little Thai to her and she look at our lugguge and ask the drivers lining up who wants to go to Pattaya, everyone look the other way. She said it will cost you more and I politely told her I usuallly pay 1000 to 1200 and that includes toll but I'm here giving you my business. A minute later a station wagon Toyota pull up and off we went.
Thai women from my experience are told that we Farang are just pulling their legs about not having money. They have been taught that we are holding back on them but then we turn around (see my post above) sure it is a good line about being #2, they will invest the time to see if they can move you up to #1, it is all a game with them given the opportunity they will test you in the future to see how big your heart is which translate into how much money is in the ATM? Money isn't important to them if they are with their useless Thai boyfriend and their own kind but that standard doesn't apply to Farangs. As a Farang you might be #2 now but as time goes on they will try to move you into #1 and as noted that comes with responsibilities, your friend is now paying 800 baht to the girl and having a great time sooner or later she will try to move him to #1, whether she can is another matter but she will try and your friend might not even know it. I think the big advantage he has is that they have you along as a friend to prevent that.
LBM
LittleBigMan
10-20-11, 06:09
Without going into the reasons? Look to be honest I assume most would not be in Pattaya it wasn't for cheap pussy.
Okay I do undertsnad that Pattaya does not have same cultural standards as the rest of Thailand. Anything goes, right?
I was last in Pattaya (south Pattaya / Jomtien) 15 years ago and I was not impressed at all.
Dirty beaches with rubbish floating in the water. Too many tourists. Worse than Patong beach Phuket.
Since then, I can find far better Beach resorts. E. G. Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi, some beaches in Phuket, even Koh Samet.
Samui is okay but a bit boring for me and expensive to get to. Koh Samet is closer cheaper alternative.
I would like to try Koh Lanta too.
Koh Lipe (Satun province) was my favourite for nature although probably no sex available there unless take your own or hook up.
Koh Lipe seemed to have no Americans nor British.
Tourists seemed to be mostly Scandanavian and many family groups looking for unspoiled nature.
My other favorite province in Thailand is Mae Hong Son (pronounced: mae hawng sawn). Don't know if sex is available easily (but probably is).
What else attracts to Pattaya?As I said my reasons are different and personal from yours I surely didn't come to be impress or for the beach and even if it is dirty I enjoy being able to seeing the ocean. While you are looking for clean beaches I'm here knee deep in buffalo shit that is the difference between you and me as to where I live.
LBM
There was some brouhaha some time back on these pages regarding the amount I paid. I paid 6000 for the first alnighter. 4000 for a short time girl the second time (2 hours) and 4000 for a girl who left for office after lunch with me on my next visit. If someone has better numbers, let us know so that we can benefit.
I talked to many girls and 4000 is the absolute minimum quoted for any girl that I liked.
This is my 2 cents as reply to above. If someone doesn't agree with what I paid, there's nothing to be done now!
McMThanks McM.
I figured I will pay 4000 to 6000 but when I was there the looks of the girls was worth the extra money and hopefully their service will be too.
I have my mind set to go there for at least one night; I will check the action and report back.
I disagree,
I think there are many stupid guys out there. I can see the thai girls point of view, but I just can't see where man is coming from.The guy probably is a virgin and any sign of possible pussy action made him lose his head. He probably came in his pants just looking at her.
Thanks McM.
I figured I will pay 4000 to 6000 but when I was there the looks of the girls was worth the extra money and hopefully their service will be too.
I have my mind set to go there for at least one night; I will check the action and report back.THB 4 to 6000 is in my opinion too much but if the gîrl in Spasso super sexy and young and also good service maybe an option for me. But on the other hand in Nana area some for "only THB 1500 there Spaso should be top class girl
.
If you want to eat, sleep and fuck for the cheapest price, it will be Cambodia.
Vietnam has cheap food and guesthouses, but the P4P scene is a hassle. You can get $10 BJs. Vietnam can be cheap, only if you are experienced and don't want the hot looking girls.
Burma, from what I read (never been there) , might be cheap as / or cheaper than Cambodia. But the infrastructure isn't there.Burma is not cheap at all, not when it comes to pussy. Of course if you are a local or like to have sex in a dirty back alley brothel it might be cheap. If you are farang and have to stick with the prostitutes in Hotel Bars and Discotheques at least Yangoon has the same price level as Bangkok or is even a bit more expensive. The same applies to hotel prices.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?935-Rangoon&p=992315&viewfull=1#post992315
You also asked on the other threads about cheap sex destinations. Cambodia is the cheapest out of the big 3 (Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines). You can get it between $5 to $10 at the cheap dirty shack brothels; maybe a little bit cheaper if you try to be a cheap local. It still will be a one shot deal. If you want to eat, sleep and fuck for the cheapest price, it will be Cambodia.What about India?
So as a newbe looking for a bargen; where would you recomend?
Of course Pattaya is cheaper than Bangkok. The main capital of a country is always more expensive. 1 or 2 hours away is always cheaper. Pattaya and Angeles is cheaper than Bangkok and Manila.Thanks
The standard asking price in Spasso these days is 5000 / night.
THB 4 to 6000 is in my opinion too much but if the gîrl in Spasso super sexy and young and also good service maybe an option for me. But on the other hand in Nana area some for "only THB 1500 there Spaso should be top class girl
Sorry for a stupid question (Search Engine doesn't seem to work on this).
Spasso is that italian restaurant@Hyatt, right?
How does it work there? Do you eat Pizza with the girls first?
Or is there a kind of bar / lounge / discotheque as well?
The only thing I rememebr is that it is in the same soi as snow white, just in fornt, on the other side of the small lane.
Cost was so low, that I don't even rememebr.Right opposite Snow White is Lucky Salon and Massage advertising ear wax removal if that's the place you mean. A few yards further down from Suk is another barber shop just before the right turn into Soi 24/1 (Angels, etc.).
hi guys,
in case bj bar floats your boat, i walked by today to check out the scene@eden, next to it, i found a white exterior decor "salon", and i thought it was an "upscale" barber shop, so i walked up to the lady at the door to inquire about the service. she said sorry, this is a bj shop, damn, i thought they came up with a brilliant idea combining hair cut & sex. i didn't see any sign outside, but as i looked closer, there was these big-ass letters painted on the door. "dr bj salon". how could i miss that?
on the way back, i saw couple of voluptuous in "ol" (office lady) , nurse outfit. they look pretty yummy! i guess sol, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), and lollipop 1 just got a new competitor.
cheers,
staid
Dash Riprock
10-21-11, 13:38
Dash Riprock, Goatscrot, Amjeck, Fon Tok,
But in the end I've been taken advantage, ripped off, etc. At one point I slapped and pretty much was thinking payback to those regardless of who they were. I was told by one Thai " that you can't live safely in Thailand " I took that as a threat and struck before he could just like how a Thai would have responded. But what I expected even surprise me? I was taken aback that what I did was unacceptable but if I was Thai it would have been the normal or expected or I wasn't a man or I would have lost face. But because I was a outsider there was a different standard, a standard for a Thai and a standard for a foreigner.
Sorry have to end here but will return later to complete hopefully?Curiously, in what ways have you been taken advantage of? With me an my local friends there has rarely been any conflict other than political or religious arguments.
hi guys,
in case bj bar floats your boat, i walked by today to check out the scene@eden, next to it, i found a white exterior decor "salon", and i thought it was an "upscale" barber shop, so i walked up to the lady at the door to inquire about the service. she said sorry, this is a bj shop, damn, i thought they came up with a brilliant idea combining hair cut & sex. i didn't see any sign outside, but as i looked closer, there was these big-ass letters painted on the door."dr bj salon". how could i miss that?
on the way back, i saw couple of voluptuous in "ol" (office lady) , nurse outfit. they look pretty yummy! i guess sol, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), and lollipop 1 just got a new competitor.
cheers,
staidif you read this thread you would have known about this place.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3021-bangkok-massage-parlors-annies-only
LittleBigMan
10-21-11, 16:02
Curiously, in what ways have you been taken advantage of? With me an my local friends there has rarely been any conflict other than political or religious arguments.In all due respect, use your imagination it shouldn't be hard to come up with something when it comes to money!
LBM
hi guys,
in case bj bar floats your boat, i walked by today to check out the scene@eden, next to it, i found a white exterior decor "salon", and i thought it was an "upscale" barber shop, so i walked up to the lady at the door to inquire about the service. she said sorry, this is a bj shop, damn, i thought they came up with a brilliant idea combining hair cut & sex. i didn't see any sign outside, but as i looked closer, there was these big-ass letters painted on the door."dr bj salon". how could i miss that?
on the way back, i saw couple of voluptuous in "ol" (office lady) , nurse outfit. they look pretty yummy! i guess sol, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), and lollipop 1 just got a new competitor.
cheers,
staidwas it this?
www.bjbarbangkok.com
if so, go on annie's thread of this forum and you will know more
Sorry for a stupid question (Search Engine doesn't seem to work on this).
Spasso is that italian restaurant@Hyatt, right?
How does it work there? Do you eat Pizza with the girls first?
Or is there a kind of bar / lounge / discotheque as well?Spasso is an Italian restaurant during the day and early evening that turns into a nightclub with a band and a dance floor in the evening.
I never tried to order food or negotiate with a girl over a pizza but if this is your fetish then go for it. LOL
Crocodilexp
10-21-11, 21:53
Well 500 bah for a third world contory in less then half an hour. That sound very expencive. I would of thought you could have the whole night for that.Which planet are you from? You ask if 300-500 THB = 9-16 USD = 7-11 EUR is for all-night sex In 2011! Maybe in a deepest, darkest African slum if a girl also likes you.
You can't get a decent burger for that much these days (although Thai food is still thankfully cheap).
Which planet are you from? You ask if 300-500 THB = 9-16 USD = 7-11 EUR is for all-night sex In 2011! Maybe in a deepest, darkest African slum if a girl also likes you.
You can't get a decent burger for that much these days (although Thai food is still thankfully cheap).Search these forums and you will find many who claim to get pussy for that price. They are full of shit, but will tell you otherwise.
Dash Riprock
10-22-11, 03:31
In all due respect, use your imagination it shouldn't be hard to come up with something when it comes to money!
LBMOkay, you were talking about money. Wasn't sure. I thought maybe you felt you were taken advantage of emotionally.
Yeah, haven't run into any of those situations yet because monetary issues are a simple (okay sometimes complex) matter of accurate accounting business wise. On a personal level, my friends and / or neighbors in Dallas didn't do business together and they don't here in Bangkok (or Cholburi where I also have to go often) either. Everyone's shop, business, factory, etc. Is their own business. Occasionally you'll here of one of those lower class 'tangled webs' where everyone seems to be in debt or borrowing something from everyone else in their social circle, but in my experience, those are more often attributes of the unwashed masses.
Which planet are you from? You ask if 300-500 THB = 9-16 USD = 7-11 EUR is for all-night sex In 2011! Maybe in a deepest, darkest African slum if a girl also likes you.
You can't get a decent burger for that much these days (although Thai food is still thankfully cheap).500 baht = 10 quid.
From what I have been reading on hear its 2500 baht for a until you are done come service.
ElHombreContento
10-22-11, 05:18
Is this a joke, are you serious? You met a woman today and you decided to buy her a dress, a pocketbook and a hair iron? Why? Is that the way men operate in your culture or better yet would you do this to a woman you met in your hometown after she told you up front that she only wants to be friends? This has nothing to do with thai culture and you were not railroaded because this has to be shtick.Runn Mann, you miss understood me. She wanted and hinted very strongly on these things, but I DID NOT BUY HER ANYTHING! She first showed me the phones and said she did not have enough money. I play stupid and acted like I did not hear her. Then she showed me a dress that she liked but again did not have enough money. Again, I acted stupid, then she showed me a pocketbook and again I acted stupid. I was actually getting pissed because I could see where this was going.
I did not give her anything. Plus to give her all that she was looking for her pussy should have had a cape with a Capital S on it and to be frank I have never seen a pussy like that.
Will some one please update on situation of floods at Bangkok, thanks
Pictures:
http://thaitvnews.********.com/2011/10/2154.html
Replace ******** with b l o g s p o t.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Will some one please update on situation of floods at Bangkok, thanksShort update:
The governments / FROCs (Flood Relief Operations Center) strategy has changed 2 days ago. Decision was made to open the flood gates in the suburbs of Bangkok to allow the water from the North to run-off through Bangkok canal system to the sea.
Nonthaburi is inundated, this is north-west of Bangkok on the other side of the river (looking from Sukhumvit). Some districts in real trouble (2 m water).
In the north / north western part of Bangkok many districts of Pathum Thani are flooded, and the water reaches Rangsit and Don Muang (old airport) right now.
There was an announcement from FROC approx. an hour ago, that the eastern districts of Bangkok must prepare for approx. 0.5. 1 m water. This was an official announcement, so better double the numbers. The Sukhumvit area (usual tourist area) is located in the center / eastern part of Bangkok. If we get flooded here we will get it quite late, and then all Bangkok will be disaster zone.
Right now its a beautiful day (no rain) , and no water here in the Sukhumvit area. But this might change within the next days.
Tap water might be a problem, one of the canals providing fresh water for being cleaned up for Bangkok's tap water is now flooded with the brown soup from the North. In blogs citizens complain about yellowish / bad smelling tap water.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Sushilover808
10-22-11, 11:02
So I like a sucker go Ahead and pay for the Dress, Hair Curly Iron and a women pocketbook that she wanted. All I got for it was a thank you at the train station and I will see you some time later. I said to myself that is what I get for being nice. I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.
...you miss understood me... I DID NOT BUY HER ANYTHING!... I did not give her anything.
It sure sounds like you paid for everything she asked for. It's ok to be a softie sometimes. While sitting on Beach Road in Pattaya just now, I bought ice cream cones for the two girls next to me when they asked. Cost: 10 baht each (about 33 cents each). No big deal.
ElHombreContento
10-22-11, 13:25
It sure sounds like you paid for everything she asked for. It's ok to be a softie sometimes. While sitting on Beach Road in Pattaya just now, I bought ice cream cones for the two girls next to me when they asked. Cost: 10 baht each (about 33 cents each). No big deal.Dude, these girls that play the game are no different than girls from Columbia, DR, Costa Rica and Cuba. I have seen all of those games already.
Short update:
The governments / FROCs (Flood Relief Operations Center) strategy has changed 2 days ago. .
Right now its a beautiful day (no rain) , and no water here in the Sukhumvit area. But this might change within the next days.
Tap water might be a problem, one of the canals providing fresh water for being cleaned up for Bangkok's tap water is now flooded with the brown soup from the North. In blogs citizens complain about yellowish / bad smelling tap water.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.thThanks Giotto for the update as not all have a clear idea on BKK and news we get are quite generic on real locations. Images are much drama oriented (and 2 meters of water or more is no joke either) but they make it look like the whole of BKK is nder 2 Mt of water.
For most people at ISG BKK is also all about Sukhumvit. .
So reading from the frontline is good.
In case of flood I know the girls at the LL Sport Bar will escape in the pool not to get wet as they did 3 weeks ago when I was there and heavy rain hit the area LOL.
Worst case scenario they can also shelter in some guest room of the upper floors as long as there are customers there.
Stay cool.
Stay dry,
Runn Mann, you miss understood me. She wanted and hinted very strongly on these things, but I DID NOT BUY HER ANYTHING! .Remind me not to ask you to write my next contract. You misunderstood yourself because you clearly wrote this below, Hombre. I liked the story better when I thought it was a joke but now I belive it to be true but it's your baht so do what you want with it but I do agree with you calling yourself a sucker.
So I like a sucker go Ahead and pay for the Dress, Hair Curly Iron and a women pocketbook that she wanted. All I got for it was a thank you at the train station and I will see you some time later. I said to myself that is what I get for being nice.
Will some one please update on situation of floods at Bangkok, thanksAlso, how are the girls in the gogos now? Are they showing up to work? How are prices? Do they seem desperate for money?
I know lots of mp girls in the thai oriented establishments have gone home to the villages to help out with the flooding.
LittleBigMan
10-22-11, 15:57
Remind me not to ask you to write my next contract. You misunderstood yourself because you clearly wrote this below, Hombre. I liked the story better when I thought it was a joke but now I belive it to be true but it's your baht so do what you want with it but I do agree with you calling yourself a sucker.No use in backtracking, its pretty conclusive.
LBM
Soon I will be making the the trip to BKK. Had been in China for 4 years. Loved the mongering scene in Beijing and Tianjin. The guys on the China board were always helpful and we had a lot of fun.
I was hoping that the BKK board would be the same. However it seems the main topic of conversation is the flood and how we all pay too much! I have a few suggestions to make. No need to worry about what others pay. We all have our own budgets. It is naive to think that a few members on the board who are more generous than others or are not save negotiators can drive the prices up. Mongering is all about having fun, experiencing different cultures of woman, and just enjoying ourselves while helping the girls at the same time. Let's face it, most of the wg's would not do this job if they did not need the money, although I do know a few in Beijing who do it because they love it and are addicted to the money. Anyways enough of my rant. I will arrive November 15th and plan to relocate here for at least 4 more years. Any members who want to get together for a few drinks and partake in our hobby please send me a PM. Good wing men are hard to find like Sammy and the guys from Beijing. I hope we can turn the BKK board around. Let's start making some solid contributions instead of all the bickering about prices and the flood, frankly it's depressing LOL. I plan to do me fare share after I arrive.
JerseyShoreSun
10-22-11, 17:03
Short update:
Right now its a beautiful day (no rain) , and no water here in the Sukhumvit area. But this might change within the next days.
Tap water might be a problem, one of the canals providing fresh water for being cleaned up for Bangkok's tap water is now flooded with the brown soup from the North. In blogs citizens complain about yellowish / bad smelling tap water.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.thGiotto,
You and the beautiful girls at your oasis are in my prayers and thoughts. Hope everyone stays dry and safe!
JSS
Right opposite Snow White is Lucky Salon and Massage advertising ear wax removal if that's the place you mean. A few yards further down from Suk is another barber shop just before the right turn into Soi 24/1 (Angels, etc.).Must definitively be the place, just in front of Snow white.
I just wanted to kill time while waiting for my session at SW, so just asked for ear waxing and face shaving. Got that by 2 nice girls on the ground flor. Don't know if more can be ahd.
The main draw for most foreign men to come to LOS is for the cheap available pussy. Being that this is a sex board I assume most guys here fit in that category. Now lets imagine that tomorrow the thais closed all their sex venues to foreigners and the only available pussy was fat ugly Thai women at $300 / short time. How many mongers would continue to spend their time here to enjoy the other things on offer?I think you are correct in your summation of why some foreign men come to Thailand, and a lot of those that do end up on this "sex forum." And, you're right that the price of ugly pussy has to be cheap enough to keep attracting those who are just looking for a "hole" to fill. Thailand has a lot of both, fat & ugly, and young & beautiful. That's what keeps the price down. Simple supply and demand, plus of course, the laissez-faire approach by the law (read: mafia) that allows it to go on.
However, some men do come here for holidays, work, adventure, SCUBA diving, culture, medical treatments, to start new lives, to hide out from the law, etc, etc. Some of them end up reading this board for general information and trashy entertainment (much like the Penthouse Forum). On the practical side, I've found good hotels, cheap taxis, etc, on this board, and I sure miss Old Thai Hand's sardonic perspective on the country and its people.
Mongering has never been my primary reason for being here in TH, but it is fun to partake in from time to time. I know exactly where to go to get what I want. Again, the "forum" was handy, at least in the beginning.
If you are so inclined, you can meet and enjoy the company some very nice (and not so nice) women, who are in the "game." It turns out that there is something for everyone here in Thailand, both hardcore "wham bam" mongers, and guys that require a little human interaction to spice up their sex lives. That's the beauty of it all, and, it's all "up to you."
Flood Map:
http://203.150.230.27/FloodMap/index.html?search=&locate=&xmin=11105110.04837066&ymin=1518928.8106264025&xmax=11303081.95162934&ymax=1639852.1893735975
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Frank Anon
10-23-11, 11:19
Search these forums and you will find many who claim to get pussy for that price. They are full of shit, but will tell you otherwise.I have gotten short time for 300-400 baht in Pattaya.
Pattaya is the only place in Thailand (that I am aware of) that you can get pussy for 300 baht and Pattaya can also be a very dangerous place to live and monger, so be careful.
Suntangh R
10-23-11, 12:54
. . That's the beauty of it all, and, it's all "up to you."Beautifully put!
Also, how are the girls in the gogos now? Are they showing up to work? How are prices? Do they seem desperate for money?
I know lots of mp girls in the thai oriented establishments have gone home to the villages to help out with the flooding.Yes please update om the gogo"s and the mp's, I will be in next week, do not want to go to deserted bars.
Short update:
The governments / FROCs (Flood Relief Operations Center) strategy has changed 2 days ago. Decision was made to open the flood gates in the suburbs of Bangkok to allow the water from the North to run-off through Bangkok canal system to the sea.
Nonthaburi is inundated, this is north-west of Bangkok on the other side of the river (looking from Sukhumvit). Some districts in real trouble (2 m water).
In the north / north western part of Bangkok many districts of Pathum Thani are flooded, and the water reaches Rangsit and Don Muang (old airport) right now.
There was an announcement from FROC approx. An hour ago, that the eastern districts of Bangkok must prepare for approx. 0.5. 1 m water. This was an official announcement, so better double the numbers. The Sukhumvit area (usual tourist area) is located in the center / eastern part of Bangkok. If we get flooded here we will get it quite late, and then all Bangkok will be disaster zone.
Right now its a beautiful day (no rain) , and no water here in the Sukhumvit area. But this might change within the next days.
Tap water might be a problem, one of the canals providing fresh water for being cleaned up for Bangkok's tap water is now flooded with the brown soup from the North. In blogs citizens complain about yellowish / bad smelling tap water.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.thHi,
Could please update the scene in Nana, cowboy and the other mongering areas, also the major malls like Paragon and Central, MBK.
I have only 4 days on my upcoming trip next week, do want to be stranded in my hotel room.
Also, is Survanabhumi still awat from flood waters?
Hi,
Could please update the scene in Nana, cowboy and the other mongering areas, also the major malls like Paragon and Central, MBK.
I have only 4 days on my upcoming trip next week, do want to be stranded in my hotel room.
Also, is Survanabhumi still awat from flood waters?The problem is that their are heavy rains predicted for next week. Here is an article about future issues:
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asia/Bangkok-City-Governor-Warns-Worst-of-Flooding-to-Come-132402893.html
Giotto,
…the beautiful girls at your oasis are in my prayers...
JSSPraying for prostitutes. Priceless!
BKK Dreaming
10-23-11, 20:03
Flood Map:
http://203.150.230.27/FloodMap/index.html?search=&locate=&xmin=11105110.04837066&ymin=1518928.8106264025&xmax=11303081.95162934&ymax=1639852.1893735975
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.thHow often is this flood map updated?
Thanks.
BK
Lord Farquard
10-23-11, 20:19
How often is this flood map updated?
Thanks.
BKThis one is updated hourly.use Google translate and will give you some news also.
http://www.thaiflood.com/
Praying for prostitutes. Priceless!Observe any WG about to enter a place and you will see she will spend a few seconds addressing her attention to the Buddha area any place has.
Go to NEP after 6 pm and you will see the girls flowing in to the bars and all spending a prayer, lit up some incense stick to Buddha
Says a lot!
Observe any WG about to enter a place and you will see she will spend a few seconds addressing her attention to the Buddha area any place has.
Go to NEP after 6 pm and you will see the girls flowing in to the bars and all spending a prayer, lit up some incense stick to Buddha
Says a lot!Yep and they spin the phallus so WHY does it say "alot" to you and what does that have to do with my post!?!?
I am planning my trip to BKK&Pattaya for the last days of November and first days of December. Do you think flooding is still a problem at that time and will there be anything left in shops like water after people have panicked? Are shops like tailors and massage parlors going to be open like life as usual?
I am planning my trip to BKK&Pattaya for the last days of November and first days of December. Do you think flooding is still a problem at that time and will there be anything left in shops like water after people have panicked? Are shops like tailors and massage parlors going to be open like life as usual?I could tell you everything will be fine, but that is more than a month away. Who knows?
Has anyone tried the Devil's Den full service bus? I'm wondering what people who have think of the value at 14, 000 to 18, 000 baht.
Papae Noel
10-24-11, 01:59
Sounds like DR BJ (on Soi 7/1) is located exactly where Magic Table is, or was?
I am planning my trip to BKK&Pattaya for the last days of November and first days of December. Do you think flooding is still a problem at that time and will there be anything left in shops like water after people have panicked? Are shops like tailors and massage parlors going to be open like life as usual?Inner Bangkok is fine, so do not worry about Sukhumvit road. At most there will be floodwater coming up the drain system causing minor floods in inner Bangkok, it will not be surface water coming into the area to flood, a very big difference.
You must remember that Bangkok is a massive megacity and the term"Bangkok" therefore covers a vast area of land. When people say flooding in Bangkok its like calling flooding in Lambeth as being flooded London.
Bangkok people are also pussies, they panic at anything as they simply live in a mega city and pampered like babies. So when a bit of real life comes there way, like potential natural flooding they do into a state of panic as if the sky is falling in. Whilst their parents would simply have said so what and carried on, these little babies now panic and panic and panic. So the panic shopping is already done, the stores are now re-stocking and there are no shortages of anything. 7-11 ran out of bottled water but other stores like Family Mart have plenty, and now 7-11 are re-stocking so the panic buying stage is over.
Life carries on as normal, lots more fresh girls coming into town getting ready for the high tourist season and so things are good at the moment.
As I said, the worst you will see in inner Bangkok is possibily a day or two of flooded streets due to drainage system full and overflowing onto roads kind of flooding. Not the same kind of massive water overland flooding seen in the central area's and north of Bangkok.
Mr Enternational
10-24-11, 03:39
has anyone tried the devil's den full service bus? i'm wondering what people who have think of the value at 14, 000 to 18, 000 baht.on my way home to pattaya last week in a taxi i was thinking about this. it's one of those things that sounds good on paper (except price-wise) , but the practicality of it is wayyy off. one drawback would definitely be that the roads are not totally smooth. another is that the driver would not be traveling at a constant velocity (e.g. slowing down and speeding up). but if you really insist then i will offer the same service to you for 10,000 baht. drinks, van, natural gas, and driver 1,700 baht. 2 girls 2,000 baht (1,000 each). and the other 6,300 baht right here in my pocket!
I like your attitude, Morris.
I do feel, however, that some travel related warnings and price info can be handy, at times.
Welcome to the land of smiles.
The dangling participle in your last sentence,"I plan to do me fare share after I arrive" made me wonder, tho. I'm guessing you plan to do your fair share of making useful, entertaining posts, as opposed to bickering, right?
Happy chasing.
Kaaoboy
LittleBigMan
10-24-11, 09:50
on my way home to pattaya last week in a taxi i was thinking about this. it's one of those things that sounds good on paper (except price-wise) , but the practicality of it is wayyy off. one drawback would definitely be that the roads are not totally smooth. another is that the driver would not be traveling at a constant velocity (e.g. slowing down and speeding up). but if you really insist then i will offer the same service to you for 10,000 baht. drinks, van, natural gas, and driver 1,700 baht. 2 girls 2,000 baht (1,000 each). and the other 6,300 baht right here in my pocket!your business plan sounds good and so is the price but the thing that bothers me is the natural gas part? lol.
lbm
Just arrived in Bangkok and staying at the Dream Hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 15. Weather is sunny and the whole Sukhumvit area is as dry as an old woman's pussy!
on my way home to pattaya last week in a taxi i was thinking about this. it's one of those things that sounds good on paper (except price-wise) , but the practicality of it is wayyy off. one drawback would definitely be that the roads are not totally smooth. another is that the driver would not be traveling at a constant velocity (e.g. slowing down and speeding up). but if you really insist then i will offer the same service to you for 10,000 baht. drinks, van, natural gas, and driver 1,700 baht. 2 girls 2,000 baht (1,000 each). and the other 6,300 baht right here in my pocket!it would actually be a reasonable price if they charged 10, 000. considering they can't make any money off the girls while they are travelling to pick you up from the airport. i could see it being over double their normal price at their establishment. then paying for gas and the driver and maybe some extra for the novelty of the thing, then 10, 000 to 12, 000 baht might make sense. i'd still personally never do it. i was considering it for a friend who's never been out of the usa. i thought it would be one hell of an introduction to thailand!
Sounds like DR BJ (on Soi 7/1) is located exactly where Magic Table is, or was?Speaking of DR BJ, what all does this place offer? How's the service? Their website is kind of vague on the subject. BJ's are obvious and the site definitely suggests other things are on the menu. I noticed they have a bathtub in one of the rooms. From the pictures the place looks clean with a kind of kooky theme. Those who've been there, what do you think? Is it worth a visit?
Pictures:
totallycoolpix.com/2011/10/the-thailand-floods/
Giotto
Speaking of DR BJ, what all does this place offer? How's the service? Their website is kind of vague on the subject. BJ's are obvious and the site definitely suggests other things are on the menu. I noticed they have a bathtub in one of the rooms. From the pictures the place looks clean with a kind of kooky theme. Those who've been there, what do you think? Is it worth a visit?Well, I found an article written by DR BJ's first customer, so I'll answer my own questions. According to the article it is indeed quite a different place. The girls are dressed as 'nurses' and 'consultants'. The nurses were 700 baht for a blowjob and 1700 for a full service soapy. The consultants were 1000 and 2500 respectively. The article mentioned a weird system for selecting girls where only four girls are offered to a customer 2 nurses and two consultants. It was mentioned that there were 20 girls on hand at the time guy arrived and he was the only customer. Dr BJ's official site says they have from 20 to 60 girls available at any given time. I wonder what would happen if you asked to see all available girls? The guy chose a consultant, according to his account it sounded like a damn quality BJ, but he did mention it wasn't like the best he'd ever experienced. The website has a FAQ section that mentions that customers can take more than one member of their staff at a time and that some of their girls will service couples or single women. The BJ rooms are fully private. (not just a curtain). They open at 11:00am and close at 2:00pm. Pictures are not allowed in house. They are indeed located at Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. The website also mentions that they are a connected brand to Annies Soapy Massage and as far as health checks, all their staff will follow the same strict regulations for customer and staff safety and will be registered on the same health procedures as Annies. Take out is available, but looks pretty damn expensive. I'm not finding the price right now and my battery on my laptop is dying. Pm me if you want to know and I'll find it or just check their site.
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Originally Posted by Bmwman [View Original Post]
Hey are you guys open today due to the flood warnings? And who / how many girls would be available? Want to make a long overdue visit in the afternoon.
Annie's is 100% open and even if Bangkok was totally flooded, we would still be open, as we are on the 2nd floor. In 1991 I went to work in a boat to Annie's. At about 5pm we will have about 50 ladies in.
Dr BJ's, which is the business the post was about, which I am a small share holder of and running until the largest investor comes back to Thailand on the 7th of November (Dr BJ himself) opened yesterday. I added some pictures to this post of it.
I would really like to point this out more strong Dr BJ's only has a connection to Annie's vie me and my admin work, after that, this is another totally different business, mainly owned by 2 westerner friends of mine. Yes the ladies pictured on the Dr BJ website are of past Annie's ladies but there are many ladies that work for BJ's that are not past Annie's ladies and as soon as we get the chance, we will have there pictures added to the BJ website as well. We was getting very full on ladies at Annie's, to the point that there was no where to sit behind the fishbowl (depending on how busy we where) , so we said to certain ladies, do you want to try a new place and they said yes. We would have had to lose some ladies somewhere and the best way of doing this at one pint might have been to let ladies go that do not get the best numbers but this could be not good for many reasons and in the end we might have pushed out a good member of staff, this way, we looked at ladies that would be good for a place like BJ's and offered them to go there. This is good for both business in the end.
We make room in Annie's and a new place that I am small share holder of gets some ladies at the start, that are all well trained.
The 2 westerner partners in this have also been helping me over the last 6 months with Annie's websites and styles.
The first day was a good day on numbers at BJ's, we had an idea what a new place would get and we made it, plus four more. We need to match it, or better it everyday.
www.bjbarbangkok.com
Also thank you for all the many customers that came in from this forum and you introducing yourself, it was good to meet you.
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Okcomputer
10-24-11, 20:47
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GiottoI am supposed to leave for Bangkok on Thursday for a week of vacation. I think I am out.
Those there, please post on what the current situation is. But it just doesn't look like a lot of fun going into the next week or so.
Thoughts?
Dr BJ opens at 11:00am, closes 2:00am.
Okcomputer
10-25-11, 02:15
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GiottoAnyone in Bangkok, please comment on what's going on with the floods. I'm scheduled to depart in two days, and about to cancel the trip from what I'm seeing.
Yep and they spin the phallus so WHY does it say "alot" to you and what does that have to do with my post!?!?Maybe he was just praying for the well being of another human being.
News reports say flooding is coming to Bangkok. They say water will drain through the canals and the Chao Phraya River and rise 2. 3 meters above sea level. Since Bangkok is less than 2 meters above sea level, that would mena flooding. I'm due to arrive in Bangkok on November 6 and I'm thinking about canceling my trip. Can someone give me a status report?
Thank you,
Canyon
News reports say flooding is coming to Bangkok. They say water will drain through the canals and the Chao Phraya River and rise 2. 3 meters above sea level. Since Bangkok is less than 2 meters above sea level, that would mena flooding. I'm due to arrive in Bangkok on November 6 and I'm thinking about canceling my trip. Can someone give me a status report?
Thank you,
CanyonNot trying to discourage you, but everything I am reading says it may be at its peak around that time. The water is still coming in and more areas are flooding closer to central. More rain is on the way and the over flow from the water has not hit its peak. If if is just for pussy and I were you, I would reroute to Phuket or Koh Samui.
I am reading that if the water does get into central, the worst it would be is waist high. I guess that is suppose to be okay?
Bangkok is probably my favorite city in the world. It is a shame.
PS: All the major airlines have issued a travel waiver for the area, so you may be able to get a refund or rebook.
Bangkok's governor briefing, 25.10.2011, around 11.30 am:
http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1049133
Blog to follow-up on actual events / rumors:
http://twitter.com//search%23Thaifloodeng.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS: Don Muang airport (old airport, now used for domestic flights) starts to be flooded. Nok Air flies from Utapao now ... expect the airport to be closed sooner or later.
Bangkok's governor briefing. 25. 10. 2011, around 11. 30 am:
http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1049133
Blog to follow-up on actual events / rumors:
http://twitter.com/
/search%23Thaifloodeng.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS: Don Muang airport (old airport, now used for domestic flights) starts to be flooded. Nok Air flies from Utapao now. Expect the airport to be closed sooner or later.I guess you will do a great service if you can please update on situation for the next few days.
Thanks
I can't spend the visitor to hotel where I will live.
I am interested in possibility of rent of number in hotel for the night or at some o'clock without excessive delays like a presentation of the passport and.
How much easily it can be made in Bangkok?
Pictures:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2011/10/14/worst-floods-in-a-half-century-in-thailand/5029/
Giotto
Lord Farquard
10-25-11, 13:23
Pictures:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2011/10/14/worst-floods-in-a-half-century-in-thailand/5029/
GiottoGood find giotto
Still dry here in Bang Pakong- but the people are ready
I can't spend the visitor to hotel where I will live.
I am interested in possibility of rent of number in hotel for the night or at some o'clock without excessive delays like a presentation of the passport and.
How much easily it can be made in Bangkok??
Please have someone who knows English re-write it for you. Or is there an ISG soul who can decipher this?
Crazy4Thai
10-25-11, 16:28
I can't spend the visitor to hotel where I will live.
I am interested in possibility of rent of number in hotel for the night or at some o'clock without excessive delays like a presentation of the passport and.
How much easily it can be made in Bangkok?Maybe this?
I can't bring the lady to my hotel room.
I would like to get another room just for playing or even a short time room.
How would I do that in Bangkok?
Is that what you mean Alex?
If so. Yes. It is easy to get a separate room from where you are staying and it could even be for an hour or two, not for all night.
How easy to take an apartments for night in Thailand without documents?
Actually a very good overview about the situation per now (26. 10. 2011, 2.02 am):
http://newley.com/2011/10/25/thailand-flooding-update-october-25-2011-don-muang-airport-now-affected-and-a-new-worst-case-scenario-map/
I made a round tour today:
- Soi 3 Arab restaurant, Nana, Lower Sukhumvit.
- Saxophone, Victory Monument.
- Brown Sugar, Lumpini.
- Witch's Tavern, Thong Lor.
- RCA.
- back to Soi 33.
No water anywhere.
But - follow the blog (http://twitter.com//search%23Thaifloodeng). Things can change very fast. The information we get from the government, be it the Thai government or the Bangkok Governor, is confusing and outdated. I don't care whether those people are yellow or red. But what they deliver right now is just disgusting. Shame on them.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
A video mentioned everywhere. Explaining the flood reasons and impacts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8zAAEDGQPM&feature=youtu.be
The video is in Thai language, English subtitles.
I watched it, and again - it's unbelievable, what kind of information the Thai people get / need to understand the situation. For all those who think about traveling to Thailand right now (general answer to all the PMs I got today) :
- if you understand this video you have passed the test to find your dick in your pants, therefor you are allowed to travel to Thailand and monger.
- if you encounter difficulties to understand this video you better refrain from traveling to Thailand right now.
- if you have difficulties to find your dick in your pants - it's all up to you. But I don't think that the flooding will help you dealing with this issue.
Giotto
PS: Thinking about the whale. It's a synonym for a very influential person in Thailand.
I can't spend the visitor to hotel where I will live.
I am interested in possibility of rent of number in hotel for the night or at some o'clock without excessive delays like a presentation of the passport and.
How much easily it can be made in Bangkok?This free translation service is presented to you the people who run short time hotels.
Alex said: I cannot bring visitors to my hotel without management checking their IDs or passports. I want to find a place where I can bypass all that stuff and bring anyone I want to my room without anyone checking their IDs. Where can I find a place like this?
For all those who simply think about mongering, here an overview about the impact of the flood to the Thai people:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/us-thailand-floods-factbox-idUSTRE79N2SI20111024
Giotto
OK.
Nobody really wants to give any statement whether it is safe to come to Bangkok right now, or not. Reason is that nobody has ever experienced such a flood, and that we don't want to participate in distributing panic messages or rumors.
My personal opinion:
I followed the news during the past few days very closely, I think I don't have to explain that, I need to do because of my business here (Livingstones Lodge, Soi 33).
Official statements:
- "Bangkok is safe" - now obviously not any more.
- "Don Muang is safe" - and a day later it is flooded.
- etc. etc.
I could add more examples, but that's basically how the information game works right now. The situation is most likely out of control. And nobody can really predict what happens next.
For that I would recommend NOT TO TRAVEL TO BANGKOK RIGHT NOW! .
We definitely encounter:
- a shortage of bottled water in the shops right now, you simply cannot buy water in 7/11 / any shops (there might be exceptions).
- tap water turning yellowish and smelling (not yet in the Sukhumvit area, but confirmed in many other areas of the city).
- an information deficit / disinformation that I have never experienced before.
Guy's. Just stay safe, stay away from Bangkok.
(That was my personal opinion.)
Giotto
PS: The water level expected for Chao Phraya river this weekend is 2.6 m above normal. The flood walls height is 2.5 m.
Wolvenvacht
10-25-11, 22:11
This free translation service is presented to you the people who run short time hotels.
Alex said: I cannot bring visitors to my hotel without management checking their IDs or passports. I want to find a place where I can bypass all that stuff and bring anyone I want to my room without anyone checking their IDs. Where can I find a place like this? Such check is for your own safety. And don't think of it as the "walk of shame" as it is wrongly called. The receptionists don't care: they have seen it all countless times.
Thanks for the update Giotto. I'm still planning my trip to Bangkok, for next month. I have signed up for the BKK Marathon and Standard Chartered / National Jogging Association of Thailand is still pushing forward with the run (20Nov11).
Please keep us informed, I'll be hitting you up for room rates soon.
Sincerely
Skeet Mac
Jp Traveller
10-25-11, 22:31
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For that I would recommend NOT TO TRAVEL TO BANGKOK RIGHT NOW! .
(That was my personal opinion.) Thanks for the honest advice, G.
I have a business trip planned early December.
Does anyone have any idea how long it would take for the water up country from BKK to have passed the city?
quality of women.
the beautiful thai woman is a scam, a myth, and an out and out lie. every continent, country, and race only has a small percentage of beautiful women. thailand is no different.
upon arriving in thailand, i couldn't figure out why all these punters were walking back to their hotels with women who were either not attractive, or just average at best. in fact, it became obvious that the majority of thai women aren't attractive. the myth of the attractive woman is kept alive with:
1. poor lighting.
2. alcohol.
3. loud music.
4. skimpy clothing.
i never drank in any of the bars, but with the poor lighting, there were several times that i took a chick back to the hotel room, and was like wtf is that? i literally thought this one chick was a ladyboy until she got naked. however, with the poor lighting, skimpy clothing, and loud music in the bar, she looked incredible.
it is imperative that the thai woman has a beautiful face. most men are a breast, butt, or leg man. the majority of thai women do not have large (natural) breasts, and they certainly have no butt. at barely 4ft, they certainly don't have any legs. in the lighting of the bars, it just is not possible to realize that they're not much to look at. your time would be better had sitting outside of a gf friendly hotel, which has good ambient lighting (or sunlight during the day) , and waiting for an attractive wg to walk by.
i wouldn't bang any of the freelancers found on the street with your dead great granddaddy's dusty the*ck, 'nuff said on that subject.
attitude of the women.
for brothels, the thai women behave the worst attitude of any brothel i've ever been too. i was in a bar one night, and some young asian guy was looking at a thai wg. she looked over at the guy, bugged her eyes out, and then stuck her neck out as if to say "what the f*ck are you looking at?" she doesn't represent the exception, she represents the rule. i don't know how many times i've seen a girl roll her eyes at a customer after he smiled at her. once, while looking at a thai wg, she became so pissed off at me, that she walked over to another side of the stage and traded places with someone else. did i really fly this far east for that? another time, i walked into a gogo bar, and literally all the women on stage had their backs to the customers.
i concentrated most of my time at the dollhouse, where the majority of women were friendly. however, the selection is small. i stopped going to the other clubs, because the women at most of the other clubs were so rude (or unatrractive) that i lost interest.
i don't really understand what the purpose of the mamasan is. in any other establishment around the world, the women would be kept in check. not subservient, but they would be taught that you treat the customer well, or we'll show you the door. immediately.
service.
don't take my word for it, rtff. if you do so, you will find that the best providers are the least attractive women? why would you fly this far east, to be serviced by a woman that you would lie to your mates and say that you absolutely were never even naked in the same room as her, let alone had sex with her. most men want women whose pictures they can show everyone and say,"i banged the f*ck out of that, now envy me!"
on the topic of service, make sure you don't have even have a moderate size the*ck. certainly don't have a big the*ck. if so, plan to spend an entire session of the woman making it seem like you're killing her. if you look like you have a big the*ck, the most attractive women flat out won't go with you.
in bangkok, you can get either a bj or fs, but not both. if you want a bj, you go to gonorrhea's, i mean [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lolipops, or dr. bj's salon. the women there (i haven't tried out dr bj's) provide suction. the women of the gogo bars / massage parlors don't. outside of the bj bars, the bj is just for show, something that they have to mark off the list of obligatory actions. it is however impossible to really get into [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lollipop's, or dr bj's. for one, the women are just flat out not attractive. the women of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s are fugly, and look like they've lived a hard life. the women of lollipop don't look that much better, however it is a cleaner establishment. on that note, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (aka gonorrhea's) is flat out nasty. considering the fact that the wg's of these establishments swallow every drop, and they don't even ask if you want a condom, it's hard to concentrate when you can only think about catching a std or aids.
summary.
everything is relative. my opinion is based upon mongering locals i've visited in the caribbean and south / central america. expecting something similar, i was extremely disappointed in bangkok. unattractive, rude women were definitely a waste of my time.
outside of mongering, bangkok is phenomenal! even with the floods, there is just so much to see and do. this place is a photographers paradise. i could spend months here seeing the sights.
OK.
Nobody really wants to give any statement whether it is safe to come to Bangkok right now, or not. Reason is that nobody has ever experienced such a flood, and that we don't want to participate in distributing panic messages or rumors.
My personal opinion:
I followed the news during the past few days very closely, I think I don't have to explain that, I need to do because of my business here (Livingstones Lodge, Soi 33).
Official statements:
- "Bangkok is safe". Now obviously not any more.
- "Don Muang is safe". And a day later it is flooded.
- etc. Etc.
I could add more examples, but that's basically how the information game works right now. The situation is most likely out of control. And nobody can really predict what happens next.
For that I would recommend NOT TO TRAVEL TO BANGKOK RIGHT NOW! .
We definitely encounter:
- a shortage of bottled water in the shops right now, you simply cannot buy water in 7/11 / any shops (there might be exceptions).
- tap water turning yellowish and smelling (not yet in the Sukhumvit area, but confirmed in many other areas of the city).
- an information deficit / disinformation that I have never experienced before.
Guy's. Just stay safe, stay away from Bangkok.
(That was my personal opinion.)
Giotto.
PS: The water level expected for Chao Phraya river this weekend is 2. 6 m above normal. The flood walls height is 2. 5 m.Thank you for being honest. That took some balls. I hope things get better for you soon.
Travelfish update:
http://www.travelfish.org/blogs/bangkok/2011/10/25/bangkok-flooding-update-october-25-2011/
Satellite picture of Bangkok (must see):
http://asiancorrespondent.com/68009/bangkok-is-surrounded-by-water/
From the Blog:
"Nok Air CEO Patee Sarasin: "We wonder if Suvarnabhumi airport will be flooded" (via BKK Post) > Not as confident as Yingluck "
Giotto
Western787
10-26-11, 06:58
quality of women.
the beautiful thai woman is a scam, a myth, and an out and out lie. every continent, country, and race only has a small percentage of beautiful women. thailand is no different.
upon arriving in thailand, i couldn't figure out why all these punters were walking back to their hotels with women who were either not attractive, or just average at best. in fact, it became obvious that the majority of thai women aren't attractive. the myth of the attractive woman is kept alive with:
1. poor lighting.
2. alcohol.
3. loud music.
4. skimpy clothing.
i never drank in any of the bars, but with the poor lighting, there were several times that i took a chick back to the hotel room, and was like wtf is that? i literally thought this one chick was a ladyboy until she got naked. however, with the poor lighting, skimpy clothing, and loud music in the bar, she looked incredible.
it is imperative that the thai woman has a beautiful face. most men are a breast, butt, or leg man. the majority of thai women do not have large (natural) breasts, and they certainly have no butt. at barely 4ft, they certainly don't have any legs. in the lighting of the bars, it just is not possible to realize that they're not much to look at. your time would be better had sitting outside of a gf friendly hotel, which has good ambient lighting (or sunlight during the day) , and waiting for an attractive wg to walk by.
i wouldn't bang any of the freelancers found on the street with your dead great granddaddy's dusty the*ck, 'nuff said on that subject.
attitude of the women.
for brothels, the thai women behave the worst attitude of any brothel i've ever been too. i was in a bar one night, and some young asian guy was looking at a thai wg. she looked over at the guy, bugged her eyes out, and then stuck her neck out as if to say "what the f*ck are you looking at?" she doesn't represent the exception, she represents the rule. i don't know how many times i've seen a girl roll her eyes at a customer after he smiled at her. once, while looking at a thai wg, she became so pissed off at me, that she walked over to another side of the stage and traded places with someone else. did i really fly this far east for that? another time, i walked into a gogo bar, and literally all the women on stage had their backs to the customers.
i concentrated most of my time at the dollhouse, where the majority of women were friendly. however, the selection is small. i stopped going to the other clubs, because the women at most of the other clubs were so rude (or unatrractive) that i lost interest.
i don't really understand what the purpose of the mamasan is. in any other establishment around the world, the women would be kept in check. not subservient, but they would be taught that you treat the customer well, or we'll show you the door. immediately.
service.
don't take my word for it, rtff. if you do so, you will find that the best providers are the least attractive women? why would you fly this far east, to be serviced by a woman that you would lie to your mates and say that you absolutely were never even naked in the same room as her, let alone had sex with her. most men want women whose pictures they can show everyone and say,"i banged the f*ck out of that, now envy me!"
on the topic of service, make sure you don't have even have a moderate size the*ck. certainly don't have a big the*ck. if so, plan to spend an entire session of the woman making it seem like you're killing her. if you look like you have a big the*ck, the most attractive women flat out won't go with you.
in bangkok, you can get either a bj or fs, but not both. if you want a bj, you go to gonorrhea's, i mean [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lolipops, or dr. bj's salon. the women there (i haven't tried out dr bj's) provide suction. the women of the gogo bars / massage parlors don't. outside of the bj bars, the bj is just for show, something that they have to mark off the list of obligatory actions. it is however impossible to really get into [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lollipop's, or dr bj's. for one, the women are just flat out not attractive. the women of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s are fugly, and look like they've lived a hard life. the women of lollipop don't look that much better, however it is a cleaner establishment. on that note, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (aka gonorrhea's) is flat out nasty. considering the fact that the wg's of these establishments swallow every drop, and they don't even ask if you want a condom, it's hard to concentrate when you can only think about catching a std or aids.
summary.
everything is relative. my opinion is based upon mongering locals i've visited in the caribbean and south / central america. expecting something similar, i was extremely disappointed in bangkok. unattractive, rude women were definitely a waste of my time.
outside of mongering, bangkok is phenomenal! even with the floods, there is just so much to see and do. this place is a photographers paradise. i could spend months here seeing the sights.do you really like asian women? you've made a broad based conclusion from what appears to be a small sample.
based upon a review of your other posts, you obviously favor women with very large (some might say fat) butts. fine, to each his own, but while asian women in general tend to have smaller butts, some can be very shapely, and are in general among the most beautiful in the world, and this include a sizable number of thai women. now in bangkok the bars tend to be loaded with issan women from the northern part of the country (often with pug noses and dark skin) so its hardly representative of thai women or even all wg's. its true they comprise the backbone of the wg industrys for thailand but they are not the only ones, and i challange anyone that labels them all ugly. also apparently you hung out with alot of what 4 foot tall ones. note with thais themselves and japanese and some westerners. the focus is on lighter skin women, (often chinese / thai mixed) often in the spas or with the super long legged ones from the higher priced g clubs. now maybe yourself being black you sense a certain amunt of racism here, as apparently indians and arab men also do. so that's a real problem, but you should try to be a bit more balanced and not broadbrush the entire spectrum of women in bangkok.
Quality of women.
The beautiful Thai woman is a scam, a myth, and an out and out lie. Every continent, country, and race only has a small percentage of beautiful women. Thailand is no different.
Upon arriving in Thailand, I couldn't figure out why all these punters were walking back to their hotels with women who were either not attractive, or just average at best. In fact, it became obvious that the majority of Thai women aren't attractive...I kinda agree with you here! The thing that I find attractive about Thailand is the availability. You will and can find what you like with some foot work. The price is also right!
Where do you recommend I go for better mongering experience?
OK.
Nobody really wants to give any statement whether it is safe to come to Bangkok right now, or not. Reason is that nobody has ever experienced such a flood, and that we don't want to participate in distributing panic messages or rumors.
Giotto.
PS: The water level expected for Chao Phraya river this weekend is 2. 6 m above normal. The flood walls height is 2. 5 m.The best and most honest report one could have read in these days. With facts!
Thanks for it
Quality of women.
The beautiful Thai woman is a scam, a myth, and an out and out lie. Every continent, country, and race only has a small percentage of beautiful women. Thailand is no different.
Upon arriving in Thailand, I couldn't figure out why all these punters were walking back to their hotels with women who were either not attractive, or just average at best. In fact, it became obvious that the majority of Thai women aren't attractive. The myth of the attractive woman is kept alive with:
1. Poor lighting.
2. Alcohol.
3. Loud music.
4. Skimpy clothing.
Summary.
Everything is relative. My opinion is based upon mongering locals I've visited in the caribbean and south / central america. Expecting something similar, I was extremely disappointed in Bangkok. Unattractive, rude women were definitely a waste of my time.
Outside of Mongering, Bangkok is PHENOMENAL! Even with the floods, there is just so much to see and do. This place is a photographers paradise. I could spend months here seeing the sights.Your post here confirms that everyone is entitled to HIS own opinion.
You expressed yours.
I am very thankful for it, now I can go back to book my next trip to Thailand.
Quality of women.
It is IMPERATIVE that the Thai woman has a beautiful face. Most men are a breast, butt, or leg man. The majority of Thai women do not have large (natural) breasts,
Unattractive, rude women.I for myself love women with exotic features such as big brown eyes, soft and dark skin, small waist, apple ass, so for me Thailand is like a big candy store. While attitude can be very different, I had three out of my best five sex encounters ever with asian women (2 Thai. 1 Chinese) and I have fucked women from all kind of countries, races and continents.
If other mongers prefer non-asian pussy it's even better for me.
Your post here confirms that everyone is entitled to HIS own opinion.
You expressed yours.
I am very thankful for it, now I can go back to book my next trip to Thailand.He is entitled to his opinion, now I can give mine. I have been to S. America and the Carribean. There are some attractive women, but their hygiene may be the worst I have ever experienced. I would rather have a clean 7 with a nice smelling pussy, than a 10 that stinks like a smelly skunk.
Also, it was not just where I went shopping as it seemed to be a general issue with the girls in those countries.
The one thing I have experienced about Thai girls is that they wash, even the street girls. Always before sex and after, and sometimes inbetween.
He is entitled to his opinion, now I can give mine. I have been to S. America and the Carribean. There are some attractive women, but their hygiene may be the worst I have ever experienced. I would rather have a clean 7 with a nice smelling pussy, than a 10 that stinks like a smelly skunk.
Also, it was not just where I went shopping as it seemed to be a general issue with the girls in those countries.
The one thing I have experienced about Thai girls is that they wash, even the street girls. Always before sex and after, and sometimes inbetween.Spot on. Thai girls are very clean and women of the Caribbean (I'm there alot) and especially Columbia are not that hygiene conscious though Jamaican girls (go figure) seem to be the exception in my experience - perhaps all the years of British influence. Seems feminine hygiene's not one of the things you think about a lot until its not there...
Manizales911
10-26-11, 16:14
Spot on. Thai girls are very clean and women of the Caribbean (I'm there alot) and especially Columbia are not that hygiene conscious though Jamaican girls (go figure) seem to be the exception in my experience - perhaps all the years of British influence. Seems feminine hygiene's not one of the things you think about a lot until its not there.Colombian girls not that hygienic? You must be trolling for street rats then. By the way it is spelled Col-O-mbia.
Colombian girls not that hygienic? You must be trolling for street rats then. By the way it is spelled Col-O-mbia.Yea, maybeee
Pictures:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/bangkok-underwater/100178/#img17
Giotto
I am coming to Thailand come hell or high water. LOL. But it won't be till the end of November. Can anybody tell me if yellow or red shirst are sort of taboo? I don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anyone off and find myself in a situation I don'are need. A Thai friend was teasing me about it, but I am not sure they were teasing.
By the way, I have a second floor room in the hotel so if any of the girls need a dry place I would like to help them out.
Thanks for the help in advance
I am coming to Thailand come hell or high water. LOL. But it won't be till the end of November. Can anybody tell me if yellow or red shirst are sort of taboo? I don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anyone off and find myself in a situation I don'are need. A Thai friend was teasing me about it, but I am not sure they were teasing.
By the way, I have a second floor room in the hotel so if any of the girls need a dry place I would like to help them out.
Thanks for the help in advanceLook,
Hell and high water is already here. It does not need to come any more.
I think what you want to say is:
You come to Thailand to help the suffering Thais to deal with the flood crisis. Whether they are red shirts of yellow shirts does not really matter. You could help to build sand bags, organize food and water supply chains and take care of people who are living within the flood for weeks now. Sick people, hungry people, with rashes and wounds at their legs because they permanently walk through polluted and partly toxic water.
People who don't think about sex any more right now. And I strongly believe that you would never take advantage of people in need of a dry place. You would simply help, right?
Later then Thailand will be the perfect country for mongering: The impact on GDP, industrial development and employment will be huge. There will be many more providers available on the market. That's what you want, right? Just - wait a bit.
Right now it would be appropriate to develop a kind if "human" thinking. I know - that's difficult. But - you could still try ...
Giotto
PS: F_U_C_K_!!!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1210686]Look,
Hell and high water is already here. It does not need to come any more.
Right now it would be appropriate to develop a kind if "human" thinking. I know. That's difficult. But. You could still try.
Giotto.
PS: I've never stayed with you but reading your posts over the years you seem like a good man who's in a tough spot right now. Good luck with the hotel andthe flood! We all wish you the best!
Colombian girls not that hygienic? You must be trolling for street rats then. By the way it is spelled Col-O-mbia.Indeed, Colombianas are very clean. Do they feel the need to obessively bath 8 times during the courses of LT? No, but certainly before, and certainly after. To say otherwise is foolish.
Mr Enternational
10-26-11, 22:46
Indeed, Colombianas are very clean. Do they feel the need to obessively bath 8 times during the courses of LT? No, but certainly before, and certainly after. To say otherwise is foolish.I guess I will have to speak foolishly then. A couple of weeks ago I was in my favorite Bogota short time mongering spot, Santa Fe. I went with a girl to the room. She took off her shirt, one shoe and her fishnet pantyhose off one leg. I took off her shirt and bra. She had a gigantic bottle of lotion. She took a gob of it and put it in her pussy and told me to fuck away. We did several positions for about 20 minutes. When I finished she went to get some tissue to wipe herself off, put back on her clothes, and went back downstairs to her spot. She never touched water. To see one of these ST casa girls in Bogota touch water is extremely unusual. As for the non-pros that I have had in Colombia they will sometimes take a shower after, but never before. Granted, it does kind of ruin the spontaneity with a non-pro for them to take a shower before, unless it is one of the before bed showers. Let it be said though that I have never known any Colombiana to smell bad whatever the case. [Disclaimer: I know Psychman said LT. I have never had a hooker LT in Colombia, because I am mostly with non-pros there].
Fast forward to last week. I took a girl from Beach Road in Pattaya for ST. When we got to the shitty ST hotel she took her clothes off and went immediately to the shower. To finish up I skeeted on her pussy and her stomach. Literally before I could finish good she had jumped up and gone to the shower once again vigorously scrubbing away. And this is the norm for any ST Thai pro. As for Thai non-pros they always shower before and after as well. Some girls even take a break to shower during (especially if the session is going long), as Luvpuss said, which pisses me off. I have had several Thai pro and non-pro who think it's just awful to be very wet between their legs (go figure). I try to tell them the wetter the better, but they always insist on drying it off in mid-session. In addition I have never had a Thai woman who smelled bad (even in the notorious Pattaya Crack Shacks. Of course the junkies don't wash; they don't even have water in the shacks).
Just got back from BKK a couple of days ago. I was there with a friend for a few days and another few days two weeks ago (went to Phuket for a week in the middle. Report in that thread). We were very lucky that there was no floods in Suk or the area we visited during this time, or even a drop of rain!
Although looking down from the plane on the way back I saw what a devastation the flood has caused to the outskirts of Bangkok. There was literally a sea of water as far as the eye could see, roads, houses and everything else were under water. I really feel for Thais who are caught in it. I don't think any government plan or human action can stop that amount of water that I saw coming to Bangkok, so those living there brace yourselves and good luck.
As for a quick feedback, I visited the usual places, some Cowboy and Nana gogo bars. Soi 7 (Beer Garden, New Wave) and soi 5 (Gulliver) hang outs and Climax and Liquid (Nana) discos. As they say in LOS all same same really, not much changed since Dec / Jan when I was there. Prices have gone up slightly (Climax entry now 250B from 200B).
Billboard gogo in Nana is worth a visit, it brings out the perv in you sitting next to that jacuzzi with those young looking girls naked and they have a fairly descend dance show on the other stage.
The Strap's (I think it's called) is a small Thai run gogo (as far as I could say) in Nana, it has 100B Singha and fairly attentive and friendly dancers. A bit low key and as yet fun place. (Later on one of the young ones from Billboard jacuzzi turned up with a friend and started dancing there!)
Also went to Nataree soapie for the 2nd time, report in the massage section.
Had a bad experience at Hillary Bar at soi 4 (where they have live music on the Nana Plaza side of the street). Just walked in to find a place to sit or stand as the place was full and some security moron jumped in my face and waved a menu, before I or my friend could say we are looking for a place to sit, he said if you don't drink get out, shouted loudly get out now with hands waving and looking very angry. He literally through us out of the place. Let's just say I won't be returning to that shit-hole, if it doesn't welcome it's customers and treat them like that, I recommend you do the same. In the short time I was there I noticed most of the girls in the place were old hags who won't get a look in in the discos anyway, so not a big a loss, I'll spend my money somewhere else where my business is welcome.
I think all in all I only took a few new girls to my hotel, I have some regulars, I hardly go hunting on a few days trip in BKK, I should plan a longer trip! LOL. So can't report much on prices, generally I pay around 1000B-1500B give or take. I took one from street opposite Nana and one in the street at soi 5 for 1000B ST. Made a randevou with a Nana gogo dancer and got her at 2am (avoid barfine) and paid her 1500B ST. My regulars get about 1500-1600B for over-night.
Did the usual touristy things with my friend who was visiting first time, by the way he mostly went to normal massage places for P4P and seemed to be happy with his choices. One new place I went was Sky Bayoke (sp?) hotel. Now charging 250B for a visit to their revolving top 84th floor. You get a free drink and can stay there as long as you want (I read it used to be 120B!). I guess you can get a good view of the floods there now! (but it's a nice way to see Bangkok city and it's various areas). You can walk to Pantip Plaza from there through a very cheap clothes market.
I also used the Air Link train this time. 35B plus 60B taxi to Suk. I used it again to go back. Saying Makassan station to the taxi drivers instead of the airport makes them go green with envy, that alone was worth it. LOL.
Cheers,
Colombian girls not that hygienic? You must be trolling for street rats then. By the way it is spelled Col-O-mbia.
A guy that works in a manure factory doesn't smell the shit.
99% of your posts reference that area. You are probably just use to their stink.
Well said!
Just got a report from our representative in BKK, it is devastating.
Courage and good luck to you and all affected by this desaster.
Levitian.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1210686]Look,
Hell and high water is already here. It does not need to come any more.
I think what you want to say is:
You come to Thailand to help the suffering Thais to deal with the flood crisis. Whether they are red shirts of yellow shirts does not really matter. You could help to build sand bags, organize food and water supply chains and take care of people who are living within the flood for weeks now. Sick people, hungry people, with rashes and wounds at their legs because they permanently walk through polluted and partly toxic water.
People who don't think about sex any more right now. And I strongly believe that you would never take advantage of people in need of a dry place. You would simply help, right?
Later then Thailand will be the perfect country for mongering: The impact on GDP, industrial development and employment will be huge. There will be many more providers available on the market. That's what you want, right? Just. Wait a bit.
Right now it would be appropriate to develop a kind if "human" thinking. I know. That's difficult. But. You could still try.
Giotto.
PS:
Waterworld remake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhMp8AnhDF4&feature=youtu.be
Giotto
Waterworld remake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhMp8AnhDF4&feature=youtu.be
GiottoGiotto,
I am far away in Europe, but seeing those images on the BBC makes me VERY SAD. I hope that somehow "you" find a way to get thru this devastation.
In the best way possible. Thoughts are with you!
Waterworld remake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhMp8AnhDF4&feature=youtu.be
GiottoGiotto:
We've never met but you seem like a decent man. Good luck in avoiding the flood and will certainly stay at livingstones Lodge next time I am in Bangkok.
Waterworld remake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhMp8AnhDF4&feature=youtu.be
GiottoJust think, all of that water still has to make its way to the sea, either in the river, or through Bangkok!
I was down on the river yesterday afternoon at Saphan Taksin Pier when the tide came in. Quite dramatic to watch the water pour over into the streets. The local kids were making the most of it, though.
Right now it would be appropriate to develop a kind if "human" thinking. I know. That's difficult. But. You could still try.
Giotto.
PS: Well said and your reports have helped through out as in the natural disaster.
I wish Thailand comes out of the tragedy ASAP.
Cheers!
Some good news:
The flood is clearly receding in Ayutthaya. Our house / land was under more than 1 m of water. It's now down to a few cm. Clean-Up / reparation work to start soon.
The run-off water now flows into Bangkok - not yet here in Sukhumvit though. In lower areas of the city the drainage system is working "reversed" right now :) .
http://yfrog.com/o091301318j
Giotto
LOS VENICE.
Perfect! Now where are the Gondolas?
Thailand. The other Venice.
LOS VENICE. Perfect! Now where are the Gondolas? Thailand. The other Venice.Have already! They are called James Bond Boats.
Took this picture yesterday near Pinklao Bridge. The guy in the smaller boat supplies refreshments.
OK.
<snip Guy's. Just stay safe, stay away from Bangkok.
(That was my personal opinion.)
Giotto.
PS: The water level expected for Chao Phraya river this weekend is 2. 6 m above normal. The flood walls height is 2. 5 m.My problem is that I will be there in 7 weeks time, Early December. (Crystal Ball needed)
4 Billion M2 of water means Giotto is dead right. Serious flooding ahead.
By then I expect it will have been drained, mostly cleaned up and bottled water stocks up. But in any post flood situation, it will stink, and mosquitoes will be active, assuming dengue / malaria or worse does not break out. I guess the good is prices should be down. With a but. I bet they ramp up prices to make do for a good chunk of lost 'peak season'.
The next question, can you bus it from Phuket to Pattaya right now? If so I have no worries. Secondly businesses will have suffered, to is the unimaginable possible: that they won't bump up prices for lost business?
Have already! They are called James Bond Boats.
Took this picture yesterday near Pinklao Bridge. The guy in the smaller boat supplies refreshments.Bond. James Bond! I had forgotten about that movie. I guess it made an impression on the local boatmen. Great photos, just wish it was under better circumstances!
Be Safe!
A lot of thai prostitutes are such sweet girls! Don't know how they do it but they do.
I wouldn't be surprised if their demeanor took a turn for the worst as many of their families live have been devasted by the flooding.
Agreed, agreed and lets hope not!
My point, though clumsily made as usual, was simply that in the midst of a NATIONAL natural disaster, praying for the prostitutes seemed a bit narrow and self-serving but then hey, who am I to question another's invocations...
Praying for prostitutes. Priceless!
My problem is that I will be there in 7 weeks time, Early December. (Crystal Ball needed)
4 Billion M2 of water means Giotto is dead right. Serious flooding ahead.
By then I expect it will have been drained, mostly cleaned up and bottled water stocks up. But in any post flood situation, it will stink, and mosquitoes will be active, assuming dengue / malaria or worse does not break out. I guess the good is prices should be down. With a but. I bet they ramp up prices to make do for a good chunk of lost 'peak season'.
The next question, can you bus it from Phuket to Pattaya right now? If so I have no worries. Secondly businesses will have suffered, to is the unimaginable possible: that they won't bump up prices for lost business?Do not get blown away by this mass panic.
Sukhumvit area will at most be flooded on a few streets, and not overland water just water coming out and out of the drainage system.
It will not last long.
Bangkok is a massive city and the area we all go to is miniscule in the big plan of how Bangkok is.
The only worry people (like us) will have going forward is that with factories shut down and many people out of work for weeks / months. It means CRIME will rise signficantly as these people need money and will have to resort to mugging / burglery to get money. So expect lots of gold chain and bag snatching and also break ins. So if you like to go to dark and deserted areas. Do not.
If you walk home at night and go into quiet places with not many people around. Do not.
Enjoy!
The worse thing about the floods. Is the massive scale of the flooding is man made.
At the start of the rainy season many of Thailands reservoirs were quite full already. But for some reason they were not drained when the rainy season started. Rumour has it a very powerful yellow shirt supporting woman ordered the Royal Thai Irrigation dept not to empty the reservoirs this season. As she and her yellow / Democrat buddies wanted to cause Yingluck and the PTP government problems.
This can be checked. Its open information that for "some strange reason the reservoirs were not emptied at the start of the rainy season"
When the water started arriving in Bangkok again the sluice gates were ordered opened to drain the water. However. As is very openly in the media. The Democrat governer of Bangkok and his BMA refused to drain the water initially. Allowing it to build up and build up.
However, this lady, her yellow friends and Democrats have had this all backfire. Now the floods are out of control and much damage is being done beyond what they thought was acceptable to embaress Yingluck.
Not only is the damage far worse than they wanted, its also known they were trying to play games and make problems for Yingluck.
You will notice the loud mouthed Democrats who were initially blaming Yingluck have now all gone into media hiding. Very quiet. This one will backfire on them big time. And might lose the Democrats Bangkok in the next election, giving PTP even more power.
Such is the way that Thai politics are.
Just coming back from the airport.
Soi 33. Petchaburi Road. Rama 9. Airport: . NO WATER AT ALL. Not a drop.
Again. This might change during the weekend, but it does not look too bad right now.
Giotto
Sorry, That the Thai people are going through this and maybe I can help out some what when I arrive. Yes, I do think of the human effect but all I heard was it was in the north or in areas near Don Muang. My Thai friends here call home and they keep saying their area of Bangkok is OK. Confusing?
So I don't know if I can help but always an open mind. But I can't change plans as I am going to other places besides Bangkok and can't get refunds on many of the places. So hopefully the Suk area won't have a large problem. I was hoping to see more of Bangkok than I have in the past but I have 4 weeks before I arrive. I would hope most of the water would have passed through and into the ocean. Hopefully alot of the clean up will be under way and progressing along very well.
A Thai friend left yesterday for Bangkok. I just hope her and her family are OK. Will hear about it from her early next week
The worse thing about the floods. Is the massive scale of the flooding is man made.
At the start of the rainy season many of Thailands reservoirs were quite full already. But for some reason they were not drained when the rainy season started. Rumour has it a very powerful yellow shirt supporting woman ordered the Royal Thai Irrigation dept not to empty the reservoirs this season. As she and her yellow / Democrat buddies wanted to cause Yingluck and the PTP government problems.
This can be checked. Its open information that for "some strange reason the reservoirs were not emptied at the start of the rainy season"
When the water started arriving in Bangkok again the sluice gates were ordered opened to drain the water. However. As is very openly in the media. The Democrat governer of Bangkok and his BMA refused to drain the water initially. Allowing it to build up and build up.
However, this lady, her yellow friends and Democrats have had this all backfire. Now the floods are out of control and much damage is being done beyond what they thought was acceptable to embaress Yingluck.
Not only is the damage far worse than they wanted, its also known they were trying to play games and make problems for Yingluck.
You will notice the loud mouthed Democrats who were initially blaming Yingluck have now all gone into media hiding. Very quiet. This one will backfire on them big time. And might lose the Democrats Bangkok in the next election, giving PTP even more power.
Such is the way that Thai politics are.I love this s_h_i_t. I hear it all the time. It's DISGUSTING! And - the Thais really need us Farang to get involved into their political issues. Of course we know it much better than them.
The raining season started already before the elections. There was no reason to start a political "water" game, it could really backfire, as long as the elections were not lost (for the yellow side).
If "This can be checked": then please prove it! A very powerful woman, and a blue whale movie. You are talking about the Q*** of Thailand! You people really lost it! You really believe this nonsense? Goebbels again providing political propaganda???
It furthermore had been a 50/50 game. Some people (new PMs) can also rise in such a situation and present themselves as leaders. So the risk to play such a game was way too high. Not even the Democrats are that stupid.
The loud mouthed red shirts (Jatuporn, Chalerm) have also disappeared. Don't hear much from Thaksin either. I don't see any difference between reds and yellows in the behavior of leading members to talk a lot, throw a lot of s_h_i_t, and disappear when the real work has to be done. That's quite a Thai behavior anyway.
More interesting are those stories about help packages delivered to Don Muang, being repacked into packages labeled with "presented to you be the xxxx Minister of Thailand" and then distributed with trucks labeled with "Gifts from Thaksin". I saw the video yesterday, shot at Don Muang, official packing area of the FROC. Will try to find it again and post it here.
I can confirm this with another story I was told from a CEO from an Oil company (personal friend) :
He and his employees packed goods in packages, support for the people living in the flood misery, and delivered it to Don Muang. There they saw the repacking process in the name of the Industry Minister. They then took their packages back and delivered it to the army depot.
This is worth to be mentioned because it seams to be FROC organized - and then it is definitely serious (official government agency). There are other stories about red shirts distributing goods to those who need them, asking "Are you a Red Shirt?" If not - no help, no package. That's disgusting, too, but there are of course extremists / idiots amongst the red shirts as well as amongst the yellow shirts. Stories like this are used for political propaganda.
What is worth to be mentioned is the role the army plays right now: They do a exceptional good job, working their arses off, they are everywhere, building sand bags, dropping help packages from helicopters, protecting flood walls, transporting people with trucks and boats, getting people out of the flood water etc. etc. ... After what happened last year (red shirts demonstration. 92 people killed) I have serious concerns in regards of the Thai army, but what they deliver right now is FANTASTIC!
And then this B_U_L_L_S_H_I_T:
When the water started arriving in Bangkok again the sluice gates were ordered opened to drain the water. However. As is very openly in the media. The Democrat governer of Bangkok and his BMA refused to drain the water initially. Allowing it to build up and build up.
The governor "REFUSED TO DRAIN THE WATER". Unbelievable. He and his BMA had obviously a different strategy than the FROC. They also knew, that some of the canals simply did not work (were blocked) , and other canals (still not used today) had a lower water level than their exits into the rivers that the river water would flow back into the canal. So - opening the flood gates would cause more damage than keeping them closed. On the other hand the BMA had a strategy to re-route water to the East and the West of Bangkok. Worked perfectly, the water broke through in the North! That's what I call "Thai Know-How" !
Yingluck had it in her hands ALL THE TIME to change this. She could declare State of Emergency or invoke the Disaster Law from 2007 to completely take over control about the flood relief operations (Article 31 of the 2550 Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Act) (she finally did that on Oct. 21st). This fingerpointing to the Governor of Bangkok is just the way of the government to divert the attention of the press from their own issues. Yingluck made mistakes, Sukhumband (Governor of Bangkok) made mistakes, as we all would make mistakes if we had to handle such a flood situation.
Nevertheless - in such a situation the people don't need CHAOS in the administration, TEARS in front of cameras, and a LACK OF LEADERSHIP. That's what we got from Yingluck! Nobody really needs to make problems for Yingluck, or embarrass her. She can really do that by herself! She has proved that already! She better runs a coffee shop around the corner, and leaves the job of a Prime Minister of Thailand to somebody who can lead! Her brother (Thaksin) would really be the right man in this situation.
BTW, the initial and official decision to fill the water reservoirs quite early this year was made because there was an El Niño (ENSO) event expected for 2011. That usually moves the monsoon rains further south, and causes less rain fall in Thailand. For that it was decided to store water early in the year to avoid a water shortage next year. Now - this is the official version of the authorities in Thailand. Whether to believe that is up to you. It sounds not too bad. But I don't really believe much any more in this country. I think nobody really had a clue, and a chain of random events combined with a lack of a masterplan how to deal with a flood like this finally resulted in the actual situation.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/263498/expert-brace-for-one-more-week
http://www.fao.org/docrep/004/w6413e/w6413e00.htm
http://sciblogs.co.nz/hot-topic/tag/thailand/
http://rankexploits.com/musings/2011/bangkok-floods-1942/
Giotto
Yingluck had it in her hands ALL THE TIME to change this. She could declare State of Emergency or invoke the Disaster Law from 2007 to completely take over control about the flood relief operations (Article 31 of the 2550 Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Act) (she finally did that on Oct. 21st). This fingerpointing to the Governor of Bangkok is just the way of the government to divert the attention of the press from their own issues. Yingluck made mistakes, Sukhumband (Governor of Bangkok) made mistakes, as we all would make mistakes if we had to handle such a flood situation.This was the plan. The plan of the Yellow Fpunding Supporters was to make Yingluck invoke the the State of Emergency and hand all control over the Army. That is what a Thai State Of Emergency is. Total control of the country to the army.
Its why all Democrats screamed at Yingluck to invoke the SOE. However. The SOE itself only puts the army in charge, which would make zero difference to the floods. Apart from the Democrat Bangkok Governer would not longer have held the water back and would open the gates to drain it.
She got around this by invoking the disaster situation rules.
This whole Bangkok flood is caused by the scum who are who playing political games. Just their games have got out of hand now. They played with fire and now they will get burnt.
The Democrats and their Yellow High Level Elite have really screwed everything up.
Find out who ordered the Royal Thai Irrigation department not to empty the reservoirs at the start of the rainy season and you will find who put in motion this problem.
We all know the Bangkok Governer (Democrat). Refused to do what the government told him to do when the waters first started building up. It is him alone who refused to drain it off earlier.
There is the cause of the problems. Political games. And by the way Giotto, the majority of country is not affected by flooding. Thailand is more than just Bangkok.
Sorry, That the Thai people are going through this and maybe I can help out some what when I arrive. Yes, I do think of the human effect but all I heard was it was in the north or in areas near Don Muang. My Thai friends here call home and they keep saying their area of Bangkok is OK. Confusing?
So I don't know if I can help but always an open mind. But I can't change plans as I am going to other places besides Bangkok and can't get refunds on many of the places. So hopefully the Suk area won't have a large problem. I was hoping to see more of Bangkok than I have in the past but I have 4 weeks before I arrive. I would hope most of the water would have passed through and into the ocean. Hopefully alot of the clean up will be under way and progressing along very well.
A Thai friend left yesterday for Bangkok. I just hope her and her family are OK. Will hear about it from her early next weekLook, certain people are trying to portray this flooding as "all Bangkok". Its not.
Sukhumvit area's are fine.
Do not beleive half the nonsense being spouted in the media. This is normal spin by news media to make things sound much worse than they are.
And also, the flooded area is only a small amount of Thailand. The rest of the country is fine and dry and all is well and people are actually having a giggle at Bangkok and saying "Sunumna to Bangkok people" as they always think they are better than the rest of the Thai's, and now they are in trouble they want all the other Thai's to help Bangkok people as they are so special and should not be flooded.
I have met many people who have said "Sunumna Bangkok. Now you have a political flood"
LOL
AmericanThief
10-28-11, 03:04
The worse thing about the floods. Is the massive scale of the flooding is man made.
At the start of the rainy season many of Thailands reservoirs were quite full already. But for some reason they were not drained when the rainy season started. Rumour has it a very powerful yellow shirt supporting woman ordered the Royal Thai Irrigation dept not to empty the reservoirs this season. As she and her yellow / Democrat buddies wanted to cause Yingluck and the PTP government problems.
This can be checked. Its open information that for "some strange reason the reservoirs were not emptied at the start of the rainy season"
When the water started arriving in Bangkok again the sluice gates were ordered opened to drain the water. However. As is very openly in the media. The Democrat governer of Bangkok and his BMA refused to drain the water initially. Allowing it to build up and build up.
However, this lady, her yellow friends and Democrats have had this all backfire. Now the floods are out of control and much damage is being done beyond what they thought was acceptable to embaress Yingluck.
Not only is the damage far worse than they wanted, its also known they were trying to play games and make problems for Yingluck.
You will notice the loud mouthed Democrats who were initially blaming Yingluck have now all gone into media hiding. Very quiet. This one will backfire on them big time. And might lose the Democrats Bangkok in the next election, giving PTP even more power.
Such is the way that Thai politics are.So 1 yellow shirt woman is responsible for the flooding of a mega city, Bangkok.
Travelfish update:
http://www.travelfish.org/blogs/bangkok/2011/10/27/planning-around-the-bangkok-floods/
Travel warnings for Bangkok now issued from many countries. I recommend to wait until Monday before making a final decision, we should know after this weekend how bad it will be here in the center of Bangkok.
A very good map showing the flooded areas of Thailand / Bangkok:
http://flood.longdo.com/?lang=en
The water is coming closer.
Giotto
Sukhumvit Soi 50:
http://twitter.com/#!/thethaireport/status/129759289588989953/photo /1
Flood risk map for Bangkok districts:
http://www.thaitravelblogs.com/2011/10/map-of-flood-risk-areas-in-bangkok/
Giotto
I like your attitude, Morris.
I do feel, however, that some travel related warnings and price info can be handy, at times.
Welcome to the land of smiles.
The dangling participle in your last sentence,"I plan to do me fare share after I arrive" made me wonder, tho. I'm guessing you plan to do your fair share of making useful, entertaining posts, as opposed to bickering, right?
Happy chasing.
KaaoboyThat's the idea. However small delay of two weeks just to make sure of safety. I have lined up a list of potential freebies on Date in Asia and as soon as the flood waters recede then I will be playing that famous song LEAVING ON A JET PLANE.
I was yesterday in Eden Club at Soi 7/1. There is some rumour here that this club does not exist any more. No it's sill alive.
They still offer a party session with 2 or more girls. The owner a French guy gives you clear information: look at the left side, there are the chicks for anal; right side of the yellow line you get the girls who don't do.
The girls (or better oder woman) have most of them about 10 Kg too much on their hips. The session upstairs is mechanic and like 2 machines which have a clear program. They just play lesbians but are not really. So, is it worth to visit? For me definitely not.
I was yesterday in Eden Club at Soi 7/1. There is some rumour here that this club does not exist any more. No it's sill alive.
They still offer a party session with 2 or more girls. The owner a French guy gives you clear information: look at the left side, there are the chicks for anal; right side of the yellow line you get the girls who don't do.
The girls (or better oder woman) have most of them about 10 Kg too much on their hips. The session upstairs is mechanic and like 2 machines which have a clear program. They just play lesbians but are not really. So, is it worth to visit? For me definitely not.Totally agree. This place is overrated. For this price you can get much more and better almost anywhere in BKK. I think it is perhaps a place that one wants to go once in a lifetime and be able to tick the box "done".
Hi Giotto, thank you for your numerous contributions to the forum.
I will be in BKK 3. 7 Nov staying on Soi 3 at a place called Unico Express. Ya I know, it's cheap. I wrote the hotel and they said Sukhumvit near there is fine and the hotel is fine. Can you please verify this? I don't want want to divert this plan to bang Bangkok's biggest boobs. If you see any, BTW, could you kindly give them a squeeze from me? . Cheers, mate.D Cups,
Soi 3 is not flooded right now, all the Sukhumvit area, Asoke, Petchabury, Chidlom, Silom area has no problem right now. If nothing happens this weekend things should be ok. (Exception: Suk Soi 48 - Soi 50 had some minor problems with water today, but that's also far away from here (On Nut)).
Don't know how the hotel is though :) .
Giotto
PS: Biggest Boobs? Never seen boobs here in Thailand - you better bring your microscope!
This was the plan. The plan of the Yellow Fpunding Supporters was to make Yingluck invoke the the State of Emergency and hand all control over the Army. That is what a Thai State Of Emergency is. Total control of the country to the army.
Its why all Democrats screamed at Yingluck to invoke the SOE. However. The SOE itself only puts the army in charge, which would make zero difference to the floods. Apart from the Democrat Bangkok Governer would not longer have held the water back and would open the gates to drain it.
She got around this by invoking the disaster situation rules.
This whole Bangkok flood is caused by the scum who are who playing political games. Just their games have got out of hand now. They played with fire and now they will get burnt.
The Democrats and their Yellow High Level Elite have really screwed everything up.
Find out who ordered the Royal Thai Irrigation department not to empty the reservoirs at the start of the rainy season and you will find who put in motion this problem.
We all know the Bangkok Governer (Democrat). Refused to do what the government told him to do when the waters first started building up. It is him alone who refused to drain it off earlier.
There is the cause of the problems. Political games. And by the way Giotto, the majority of country is not affected by flooding. Thailand is more than just Bangkok.Ok, ok, take it easy.
Reds are good, Yellows are bad. And you know it all.
What really surprises me is that there are still some people out there who believe this nonsense.
Giotto
Suntangh R
10-28-11, 17:10
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1211094]The Democrats and their Yellow High Level Elite have really screwed everything up."
Pro, you are a complicated person. Why are trying to "sow the seeds of discontent". Leftist leanings, what?
You are trying to implicate the Queen- Tread cautiously!
Folks, kindly read Giotto's columns. We would have more trust in his comments, rather than in misplaced gossip!
Suntangh R
10-28-11, 17:15
Ok, ok, take it easy.
Reds are good, Yellows are bad. And you know it all.
What really surprises me is that there are still some people out there who believe this nonsense.
GiottoNo, Giotto, majority don't believe Pro's reports. I have over the past 2 years never heard a sincere, generous, helpful, humane, respectful comment from the Pro! There is a psychopathology simmering below his aggressive and provocative gossip or verbosity! Can we have his photo. Would be keen to see his eyes!
Suntangh R
10-28-11, 17:20
Would have been lovely to hear comments from OTH, Rabbit, Nic Frenchy et al. It was good reading up good debates, harangues, etc in the past. Where have they vanished?
Tagged on rice boxes: "With Love and Care, Thaksin Shinawatra"
http://yfrog.com/nxjwzylj
Phue Thai MP Wanchai's name in Japanese donations:
http://lockerz.com/s/150630443
Red is good :) !
Giotto
PS: No doubt that Yellow would play the same dirty games, if they were running FROC.
Sukhumvit Soi 50:
http://twitter.com/#!/thethaireport/status/129759289588989953/photo /1
Flood risk map for Bangkok districts:
http://www.thaitravelblogs.com/2011/10/map-of-flood-risk-areas-in-bangkok/
GiottoHello, Giotto,
I will be in BKK 3-20 November for my 20th trip. How are the shortages on bottled drinking water?
Thanks,
quality of women.
the beautiful thai woman is a scam, a myth, and an out and out lie. every continent, country, and race only has a small percentage of beautiful women. thailand is no different.
upon arriving in thailand, i couldn't figure out why all these punters were walking back to their hotels with women who were either not attractive, or just average at best. in fact, it became obvious that the majority of thai women aren't attractive. the myth of the attractive woman is kept alive with:
1. poor lighting.
2. alcohol.
3. loud music.
4. skimpy clothing.
i never drank in any of the bars, but with the poor lighting, there were several times that i took a chick back to the hotel room, and was like wtf is that? i literally thought this one chick was a ladyboy until she got naked. however, with the poor lighting, skimpy clothing, and loud music in the bar, she looked incredible.
it is imperative that the thai woman has a beautiful face. most men are a breast, butt, or leg man. the majority of thai women do not have large (natural) breasts, and they certainly have no butt. at barely 4ft, they certainly don't have any legs. in the lighting of the bars, it just is not possible to realize that they're not much to look at. your time would be better had sitting outside of a gf friendly hotel, which has good ambient lighting (or sunlight during the day) , and waiting for an attractive wg to walk by.
i wouldn't bang any of the freelancers found on the street with your dead great granddaddy's dusty the*ck, 'nuff said on that subject.
attitude of the women.
for brothels, the thai women behave the worst attitude of any brothel i've ever been too. i was in a bar one night, and some young asian guy was looking at a thai wg. she looked over at the guy, bugged her eyes out, and then stuck her neck out as if to say "what the f*ck are you looking at?" she doesn't represent the exception, she represents the rule. i don't know how many times i've seen a girl roll her eyes at a customer after he smiled at her. once, while looking at a thai wg, she became so pissed off at me, that she walked over to another side of the stage and traded places with someone else. did i really fly this far east for that? another time, i walked into a gogo bar, and literally all the women on stage had their backs to the customers.
i concentrated most of my time at the dollhouse, where the majority of women were friendly. however, the selection is small. i stopped going to the other clubs, because the women at most of the other clubs were so rude (or unatrractive) that i lost interest.
i don't really understand what the purpose of the mamasan is. in any other establishment around the world, the women would be kept in check. not subservient, but they would be taught that you treat the customer well, or we'll show you the door. immediately.
service.
don't take my word for it, rtff. if you do so, you will find that the best providers are the least attractive women? why would you fly this far east, to be serviced by a woman that you would lie to your mates and say that you absolutely were never even naked in the same room as her, let alone had sex with her. most men want women whose pictures they can show everyone and say,"i banged the f*ck out of that, now envy me!"
on the topic of service, make sure you don't have even have a moderate size the*ck. certainly don't have a big the*ck. if so, plan to spend an entire session of the woman making it seem like you're killing her. if you look like you have a big the*ck, the most attractive women flat out won't go with you.
in bangkok, you can get either a bj or fs, but not both. if you want a bj, you go to gonorrhea's, i mean [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lolipops, or dr. bj's salon. the women there (i haven't tried out dr bj's) provide suction. the women of the gogo bars / massage parlors don't. outside of the bj bars, the bj is just for show, something that they have to mark off the list of obligatory actions. it is however impossible to really get into [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lollipop's, or dr bj's. for one, the women are just flat out not attractive. the women of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s are fugly, and look like they've lived a hard life. the women of lollipop don't look that much better, however it is a cleaner establishment. on that note, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (aka gonorrhea's) is flat out nasty. considering the fact that the wg's of these establishments swallow every drop, and they don't even ask if you want a condom, it's hard to concentrate when you can only think about catching a std or aids.
summary.
everything is relative. my opinion is based upon mongering locals i've visited in the caribbean and south / central america. expecting something similar, i was extremely disappointed in bangkok. unattractive, rude women were definitely a waste of my time.
outside of mongering, bangkok is phenomenal! even with the floods, there is just so much to see and do. this place is a photographers paradise. i could spend months here seeing the sights.i have a very well traveled friend who is older, happily married for some 35-40 years, whom in all the years i have known him, has never even made a comment in passing about a woman or her physique, be she real or on a billboard, tv, or magazine. just not what he is about. this same guy does not drink, does not frequent establishments that play loud music, and the world of nana and cowboy would probably shock him a bit if he did ever venture forth. yet on all three of his visits with his wife to bangkok he has commented to me,"there really are an amazing number of beautiful young women in this city." i on the other hand, drink, frequent establishments that play loud music, am happily not married, and make comments every day about the women i have, am, and want to monger with. and yet even having lived in this fair city for the past 6 years, i catch myself saying day after day after day,"there really are an amazing number of beautiful young women in this city." you are right, bangkok is a phenomenal city outside of mongering. and an even more phenomenal one because of it.
Hello, Giotto, I will be in BKK 3-20 November for my 20th trip. How are the shortages on bottled drinking water? Thanks,Dr. G has an entire pool to drink! Bring some water for me, OK?
Hello, Giotto,
I will be in BKK 3-20 November for my 20th trip. How are the shortages on bottled drinking water?
Thanks, Drogue,
If you do not find any bottled water in Bangkok come over here to Livingstone's. We have stocked up in time :) .
No, I think the situation gets better in the shops, bottled water and Mama (who eats that?) noodles were imported from Malaysia / other countries. Yesterday we could buy bottled water in the Villa market around the corner.
Nevertheless. Watch this weekend, if things work out well the problems will ease next week. If major parts of Bangkok will get flooded (West side, Thonburi has the biggest likelihood to get hit massively) the panic buying will go on, and the situation will be unpredictable.
Giotto
'Intellectuals fill the sandbags, while buffaloes make the plans. '
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/262717/why-we-lose/page-5/
"Public should also have a say in flood"
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Public-should-also-have-a-say-in-flood-30168792.html
Takeya Kimio, visiting senior advisor from the Japan International Cooperation Agency:
"Even the Japanese government cannot do better than this because the situation this year is very serious. Releasing the floods through the east and west of Bangkok is the correct way to solve the problem."
With best regards to Mr."Know-It-All",
Giotto
PS: Sitting here since 6 am, beautiful day, blue sky, not too hot, coffee machine is running already - what a good life this is :) ! High Tide at 9 am. Lets wait and see!
Hi Giotto, thank you for your numerous contributions to the forum.
I will be in BKK 3. 7 Nov staying on Soi 3 at a place called Unico Express. Ya I know, it's cheap. I wrote the hotel and they said Sukhumvit near there is fine and the hotel is fine. Can you please verify this? I don't want want to divert this plan to bang Bangkok's biggest boobs. If you see any, BTW, could you kindly give them a squeeze from me? . Cheers, mate.I have said all along its very unlikely Sukhumvit area where tourists go will get more than a quick little drainage flood, if anything at all. Sukhumvit main area's are not at danger from overland water flood, they are at danger from drainage related flooding.
With no rain and the drains empty at the moment even when a canal spills its banks its quickly gone (like yesterday when a canal leaked a little near Suk 50, within a hour or two it was all gone and cleared up) /
So my advice is not to panic and carry on as normal, Sukhumvit is fine. Do not beleive all the panic and scare stories people are coming up with.
Mealticket
10-29-11, 02:18
Ok, ok, take it easy.
Reds are good, Yellows are bad. And you know it all.
What really surprises me is that there are still some people out there who believe this nonsense.
GiottoWell said G
high tide 9.11 am today: no major problems. it came in 10 cm lower than expected.
in the north of the city the situation is worsening a bit, the water now slightly closer to the center of the city than yesterday (ram intra soi 5).
the west (other side of the river) is not completely inundated right now (froc expected that to happen today). still there are areas with high flood levels (50 cm - 1 m).
no news from the east.
chinatown / grand palace partially flooded, maximum knee-deep, but the water is receding already after the high tide is over.
the city center, sathon, lumpini, sukhumvit, silom, petchaburi etc. is completely dry. seams to me that we will not have problems here in the mongering areas at all.
no problems at suvarnabhumi aiport, no problems on the roads from the airport to the city center.
all major klongs (canals) and rivers show quite high water levels. in my opinion positive. that means (as i understand it) , that the froc, bma and rid have things under control (at this moment) , and a lot of water can run-off to the gulf of thailand. though the control about river levels might be limited the water amount in canals can be adjusted by human interference. still - due to the high tide of the gulf of thailand the run-off speed is quite low.
hopefully i got all that right, too many blogs and tweets to follow, and too much nonsense, panic bs and false information that has to be filtered.
giotto
ps: ram intra area seams to have problems now, flood water is coming up from the drains (numerous reports).
Has anyone been to the shores of the Chao Phaya River? How's the water situation? I plan to stay at the Shangri-La and I would like to know about the height of the water and if the shoreline near the Shang will flood.
Thank you,
Canyon
Cunning Stunt
10-29-11, 05:28
Felt quite sorry for Yingluck, watching her on TV last night. She looked like a frightened rabbit caught in fast approaching headlights and seemed about to burst into tears. Iron maiden, she 'aint.
Will the last person to leave Bangkok kindly remember to turn off the lights.
Has anyone been to the shores of the Chao Phaya River? How's the water situation? I plan to stay at the Shangri-La and I would like to know about the height of the water and if the shoreline near the Shang will flood.
Thank you,
CanyonWatch Al Jazeera today, you will see pictures from the shores.
Seams to me that there will be no problem in that area.
Picture from today, 8:29 am (Richard Barrow), Saphan Taxin:
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardBarrow/status/130094232697454592/photo/1
Giotto
Felt quite sorry for Yingluck, watching her on TV last night. She looked like a frightened rabbit caught in fast approaching headlights and seemed about to burst into tears. Iron maiden, she 'aint.
Will the last person to leave Bangkok kindly remember to turn off the lights.Might not be her government fault as it might not be' induce by the opposition. Natural disasters sometime are caused by human, just as sometime can't be controlled by human.
Having said that, still I can't feel sorry for the political leaders.
They voluntarily entered into their game, sometime promising too much, surely always praising themselves when things turn out well, even if not because of them.
When entering this game they should know life is not easy, so they should be very well prepared to this.
If not and if the situation makes them burst into emotional tears (and not for pity of the others) means they are psychologically weak. Not the ideal status for somebody who has to run a country. Especially in emergencies.
Especially when they did not show this human emotions in fighting their opponents before the elections, often playing every trick to beat them.
Mind you, this is a very generic comment, nit strictly referred to this young lady only.
Member #4807
10-29-11, 07:27
thanks for all updates mate! giotto better than sky, cnn, al jazeera, rai, bbc etc.
high tide 9. 11 am today: no major problems. it came in 10 cm lower than expected.
in the north of the city the situation is worsening a bit, the water now slightly closer to the center of the city than yesterday (ram intra soi 5).
the west (other side of the river) is not completely inundated right now (froc expected that to happen today). still there are areas with high flood levels (50 cm. 1 m).
no news from the east.
chinatown / grand palace partially flooded, maximum knee-deep, but the water is receding already after the high tide is over.
the city center, sathon, lumpini, sukhumvit, silom, petchaburi etc. is completely dry. seams to me that we will not have problems here in the mongering areas at all.
no problems at suvarnabhumi aiport, no problems on the roads from the airport to the city center.
all major klongs (canals) and rivers show quite high water levels. in my opinion positive. that means (as i understand it) , that the froc, bma and rid have things under control (at this moment) , and a lot of water can run-off to the gulf of thailand. though the control about river levels might be limited the water amount in canals can be adjusted by human interference. still. due to the high tide of the gulf of thailand the run-off speed is quite low.
hopefully i got all that right, too many blogs and tweets to follow, and too much nonsense, panic bs and false information that has to be filtered.
giotto.
ps: ram intra area seams to have problems now, flood water is coming up from the drains (numerous reports).
The city center, Sathon, Lumpini, Sukhumvit, Silom, Petchaburi etc. Is completely dry. Seams to me that we will not have problems here in the mongering areas at all.
No problems at Suvarnabhumi aiport, no problems on the roads from the airport to the city center.Just the news I was looking for, gives one a bit of confidence the airport has remained dry and operational. Been reading all kinds of possibilities with the floods, most a load of bunk. Think I will go ahead and book my flight today. The road to Pattaya R7? Appears to not be affected by flood waters.
Gelbfieber
10-29-11, 12:17
Mooris7. You are so right. We need to focus on the real stuff other than bitching like house wives who have nothing else to do. Keep it going man! Petchaburi is the area to go to!
Soon I will be making the the trip to BKK. Had been in China for 4 years. Loved the mongering scene in Beijing and Tianjin. The guys on the China board were always helpful and we had a lot of fun.
I was hoping that the BKK board would be the same. However it seems the main topic of conversation is the flood and how we all pay too much! I have a few suggestions to make. No need to worry about what others pay. We all have our own budgets. It is naive to think that a few members on the board who are more generous than others or are not save negotiators can drive the prices up. Mongering is all about having fun, experiencing different cultures of woman, and just enjoying ourselves while helping the girls at the same time. Let's face it, most of the wg's would not do this job if they did not need the money, although I do know a few in Beijing who do it because they love it and are addicted to the money. Anyways enough of my rant. I will arrive November 15th and plan to relocate here for at least 4 more years. Any members who want to get together for a few drinks and partake in our hobby please send me a PM. Good wing men are hard to find like Sammy and the guys from Beijing. I hope we can turn the BKK board around. Let's start making some solid contributions instead of all the bickering about prices and the flood, frankly it's depressing LOL. I plan to do me fare share after I arrive.
Gelbfieber
10-29-11, 12:24
Just came back from Cesar's in Petchaburi road. Not many mongers around and the choice is plenty. .
Took Parn #33 for ST. Usual start, soap & wash and quickly jumped on the bed. Parn is very playful. We started off cuddling, DATY and quickly came into action. Parn went on top and drove me mad in Cowgirl position. She doesn't do anal which was OK but I had hoped for more. After doggie humping I finally shot my load.
Name: Parn.
GFE: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Service: 9/10.
Damage: 1200 incl room.
WIR: YES
I did say Sukhumvit would be fine, no hassles or floods, no worries and have said that all along.
Far too many people are in panic mode and trying to frighten everyone.
Listen to the Pro's. !
Hope nobody cancelled their trips based on the frightened panic merchants.
Sorry Prof, can we easily find drinking water in 7/11? My flight is on 9th November and I want to go. .
I did say Sukhumvit would be fine, no hassles or floods, no worries and have said that all along.
Far too many people are in panic mode and trying to frighten everyone.
Listen to the Pro's. !
Hope nobody cancelled their trips based on the frightened panic merchants.
Good article however it only deals with how the Democrats caused the later problems in Bangkok. All political games to try to have a go a Yingluck and PTP.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/263845/mismanagement-political-intrigue-cruel-fate
quality of women.
the beautiful thai woman is a scam, a myth, and an out and out lie. every continent, country, and race only has a small percentage of beautiful women. thailand is no different.
upon arriving in thailand, i couldn't figure out why all these punters were walking back to their hotels with women who were either not attractive, or just average at best. in fact, it became obvious that the majority of thai women aren't attractive. the myth of the attractive woman is kept alive with:
1. poor lighting.
2. alcohol.
3. loud music.
4. skimpy clothing.
i never drank in any of the bars, but with the poor lighting, there were several times that i took a chick back to the hotel room, and was like wtf is that? i literally thought this one chick was a ladyboy until she got naked. however, with the poor lighting, skimpy clothing, and loud music in the bar, she looked incredible.
it is imperative that the thai woman has a beautiful face. most men are a breast, butt, or leg man. the majority of thai women do not have large (natural) breasts, and they certainly have no butt. at barely 4ft, they certainly don't have any legs. in the lighting of the bars, it just is not possible to realize that they're not much to look at. your time would be better had sitting outside of a gf friendly hotel, which has good ambient lighting (or sunlight during the day) , and waiting for an attractive wg to walk by.
i wouldn't bang any of the freelancers found on the street with your dead great granddaddy's dusty the*ck, 'nuff said on that subject.
attitude of the women.
for brothels, the thai women behave the worst attitude of any brothel i've ever been too. i was in a bar one night, and some young asian guy was looking at a thai wg. she looked over at the guy, bugged her eyes out, and then stuck her neck out as if to say "what the f*ck are you looking at?" she doesn't represent the exception, she represents the rule. i don't know how many times i've seen a girl roll her eyes at a customer after he smiled at her. once, while looking at a thai wg, she became so pissed off at me, that she walked over to another side of the stage and traded places with someone else. did i really fly this far east for that? another time, i walked into a gogo bar, and literally all the women on stage had their backs to the customers.
i concentrated most of my time at the dollhouse, where the majority of women were friendly. however, the selection is small. i stopped going to the other clubs, because the women at most of the other clubs were so rude (or unatrractive) that i lost interest.
i don't really understand what the purpose of the mamasan is. in any other establishment around the world, the women would be kept in check. not subservient, but they would be taught that you treat the customer well, or we'll show you the door. immediately.
service.
don't take my word for it, rtff. if you do so, you will find that the best providers are the least attractive women? why would you fly this far east, to be serviced by a woman that you would lie to your mates and say that you absolutely were never even naked in the same room as her, let alone had sex with her. most men want women whose pictures they can show everyone and say,"i banged the f*ck out of that, now envy me!"
on the topic of service, make sure you don't have even have a moderate size the*ck. certainly don't have a big the*ck. if so, plan to spend an entire session of the woman making it seem like you're killing her. if you look like you have a big the*ck, the most attractive women flat out won't go with you.
in bangkok, you can get either a bj or fs, but not both. if you want a bj, you go to gonorrhea's, i mean [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lolipops, or dr. bj's salon. the women there (i haven't tried out dr bj's) provide suction. the women of the gogo bars / massage parlors don't. outside of the bj bars, the bj is just for show, something that they have to mark off the list of obligatory actions. it is however impossible to really get into [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lollipop's, or dr bj's. for one, the women are just flat out not attractive. the women of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s are fugly, and look like they've lived a hard life. the women of lollipop don't look that much better, however it is a cleaner establishment. on that note, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (aka gonorrhea's) is flat out nasty. considering the fact that the wg's of these establishments swallow every drop, and they don't even ask if you want a condom, it's hard to concentrate when you can only think about catching a std or aids.
summary.
everything is relative. my opinion is based upon mongering locals i've visited in the caribbean and south / central america. expecting something similar, i was extremely disappointed in bangkok. unattractive, rude women were definitely a waste of my time.
outside of mongering, bangkok is phenomenal! even with the floods, there is just so much to see and do. this place is a photographers paradise. i could spend months here seeing the sights.juan.
this post is so far from reality it's amazing.
perhaps it's your attitude that affected your experiences.
as for the slim tight bodied thai women not meeting your taste preferences. a bit more pre trip research could have allowed you to forgo the trip completely and not suffer so.
imho beauty, quality and attitude can be great in bkk. i am looking forward to my next stopover there.
guido88
JesseJames
10-30-11, 06:21
Juan.
This post is so far from reality it's amazing.
Perhaps it's your attitude that affected your experiences.
As for the slim tight bodied Thai women not meeting your taste preferences. A bit more pre trip research could have allowed you to forgo the trip completely and not suffer so.
IMHO beauty, quality and attitude can be great in BKK. I am looking forward to my next stopover there.
Guido88He should stay in South / Central America. A man like that will only cause headaches for everyone, including us.
Lover Boy #2
10-30-11, 06:32
Would have been lovely to hear comments from OTH, Rabbit, Nic Frenchy et al. It was good reading up good debates, harangues, etc in the past. Where have they vanished?I don't know, but I recently had the opportunity to visit a woman rec. By Nic over@Victoria Massage. Great pick. Thanks!
Pictures and Maps from flooded parts of Bangkok:
http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=420062#post420062
Giotto
Sorry Prof, can we easily find drinking water in 7/11? My flight is on 9th November and I want to go. .If not in 7/11 then go to a Family Mart, but generally things are returning to normal in the shops as the panic buying is now over. In our dear touristy dry area's of Bangkok.
Failing that. Have a beer.
I did say Sukhumvit would be fine, no hassles or floods, no worries and have said that all along.
Far too many people are in panic mode and trying to frighten everyone.
Listen to the Pro's. !
Hope nobody cancelled their trips based on the frightened panic merchants.Instead of continuing to toot your horn, why don't you talk about and show some compassion for the millions that are displaced and the 100's who have died.
It is now all about you guessing right.
Good article however it only deals with how the Democrats caused the later problems in Bangkok. All political games to try to have a go a Yingluck and PTP.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/263845/mismanagement-political-intrigue-cruel-fateI try to understand what kind of political game this could be. If I remember correctly Bangkok voted approx. 50/50 (red / yellow) in the last elections.
Background info about Bangkok's water drainage system:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/263836/drainage-system-not-up-to-task
New York Times (30. 10. 2011) : Bangkok Resisting Floods (So Why Isn't Everyone Happy?)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/world/asia/31iht-thailand31.html?_r=2
While I would also appreciate an explanation from the BMA why this socalled "window of opportunity" to allow more water to run-off into the river / Gulf of Thailand was missed - it is after the 21. 10. 2011 (Invocation of the Disaster Law) still in the responsibility of the PM / FROC. So what?
May be the flood protection system of Bangkok was designed wrongly. May be the FROC / BMA / RID cannot handle it correctly. All possible. But if you look at the structure of the system - there are these flood walls in the North of the city. The reason that they exist is to protect the city against a flood coming from the North! Now it is of course bad luck if you live on the wrong side of the wall. But it is still the system which somebody has designed years ago.
What happens if you break flood walls can also easily be understood reading that piece:
"Some flood barriers had been destroyed under mysterious circumstances in recent days, despite the deployment of what the military said were 50, 000 troops to guard and maintain them. A nighttime breach near the city's domestic airport, Don Mueang, last week contributed to waters' pouring onto the tarmac of the airport and inundating thousands of nearby homes and businesses. (The main international airport, Suvarnabhumi, is still operating normally.) The surge of water also forced the government on Saturday to move its crisis-management unit, Flood Relief Operations Center, which had been based at Don Mueang." (NYT)
Yingluck has made her position in regards of a possible flooding of Bangkok very clear:
'If we let the flood wall collapse or if the sluices fail, the water will burst into Bangkok, the capital of our nation, ' she said. 'Foreigners will lose confidence in us and wonder why we cannot save our own capital. ' (NYT)
I don't see major problems between red and yellow right now. I see problems between the people living on either side of the flood walls!
http://lockerz.com/s/151736744
Location of Klong Sam Wa:
http://twitter.com/#!/chorong_bkk/status/130678240519004160/photo/1
What's going on right now (ex twitter): "10.59pm Protesters now destroying Klong Sam Wa water gate with huge hammers".
Giotto
PS: Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQN4X1tt1S4
Failing that. Have a beer.Best advise I heard so far during this whole flood crisis.
Cheers.
Shark
Pictures and Maps from flooded parts of Bangkok:
http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=420062#post420062
GiottoThose were very good photos of what's going on in BKK and I was very impress with the overall excellent quality of those photos. Wish I could take ones that looked so good. Looks professionally done.
Shark
Jockmactavish
10-30-11, 21:58
I try to understand what kind of political game this could be. If I remember correctly Bangkok voted approx. 50/50 (red / yellow) in the last elections.
Background info about Bangkok's water drainage system:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/263836/drainage-system-not-up-to-task
New York Times (30. 10. 2011) : Bangkok Resisting Floods (So Why Isn't Everyone Happy?)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/world/asia/31iht-thailand31.html?_r=2
While I would also appreciate an explanation from the BMA why this socalled "window of opportunity" to allow more water to run-off into the river / Gulf of Thailand was missed. It is after the 21. 10. 2011 (Invocation of the Disaster Law) still in the responsibility of the PM / FROC. So what?
May be the flood protection system of Bangkok was designed wrongly. May be the FROC / BMA / RID cannot handle it correctly. All possible. But if you look at the structure of the system. There are these flood walls in the North of the city. The reason that they exist is to protect the city against a flood coming from the North! Now it is of course bad luck if you live on the wrong side of the wall. But it is still the system which somebody has designed years ago.
What happens if you break flood walls can also easily be understood reading that piece:
"Some flood barriers had been destroyed under mysterious circumstances in recent days, despite the deployment of what the military said were 50, 000 troops to guard and maintain them. A nighttime breach near the city's domestic airport, Don Mueang, last week contributed to waters' pouring onto the tarmac of the airport and inundating thousands of nearby homes and businesses. (The main international airport, Suvarnabhumi, is still operating normally.) The surge of water also forced the government on Saturday to move its crisis-management unit, Flood Relief Operations Center, which had been based at Don Mueang." (NYT)
Yingluck has made her position in regards of a possible flooding of Bangkok very clear:
'If we let the flood wall collapse or if the sluices fail, the water will burst into Bangkok, the capital of our nation, ' she said. 'Foreigners will lose confidence in us and wonder why we cannot save our own capital. ' (NYT)
I don't see major problems between red and yellow right now. I see problems between the people living on either side of the flood walls!
http://lockerz.com/s/151736744
Location of Klong Sam Wa:
http://twitter.com/#!/chorong_bkk/status/130678240519004160/photo/1
What's going on right now (ex twitter) : "10. 59pm Protesters now destroying Klong Sam Wa water gate with huge hammers".
Giotto.
PS: Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQN4X1tt1S4As a long time lurker with nothing of interest to report but hopeful that one day I will get to experience, first hand, the delights of Bangkok and, specifically, Livingstones Lodge, I would like to applaud Giotto's efforts to keep forum members informed of the travails of Bangkok. As has already been pointed out, he beats all the news channels hands down!
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Listen to the Pro's. !
Hope nobody cancelled their trips based on the frightened panic merchants.Nope, I have faith in what The Pro said and never changed my plans and will arrive in BKK late next week (although I do have to confess I had no choice as it was a non-refundable, non-changeable flight tix) so had always hoped for the best and now as the worst seems to be over-HOPEFULLY, I could concentrate on hunting pussies.
Can all living in BKK right now confirm what I had heard from others that the overall mongering scene not great at this time as many providers had fled BKK?
Just came back from Cesar's in Petchaburi road. Not many mongers around and the choice is plenty. .
Took Parn #33 for ST. Usual start, soap & wash and quickly jumped on the bed. Parn is very playful. We started off cuddling, DATY and quickly came into action. Parn went on top and drove me mad in Cowgirl position. She doesn't do anal which was OK but I had hoped for more. After doggie humping I finally shot my load.
Name: Parn.
GFE: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Service: 9/10.
Damage: 1200 incl room.
WIR: YES1200p total.
Is this a flood discount price you got as I seem to remember the overall price of Ceasar MP to be much higher?
Phantomtiger2
10-30-11, 22:10
Just curious if the underground subway system was affected by some of the flooding that occurred in BKK.
The BTS-skytrain should be unaffected except for any power disruptions due to the water.
PT
Phantomtiger2
10-30-11, 22:17
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Can all living in BKK right now confirm what I had heard from others that the overall mongering scene not great at this time as many providers had fled BKK?I also heard the same thing from others on another blog. Said many Fishbowls at some MPs are less than 1/2 full at best. Don't know how accurate the info is though.
I also heard the same thing from others on another blog. Said many Fishbowls at some MPs are less than 1/2 full at best. Don't know how accurate the info is though.I talked to my Thai GF and she said that many girls are going home because of a lack of customers. If we go. They will come. Or we both will come. Whatever.
I was in Thailand during the Yellow Shirt uprising, I was in Thailand for the Red Shirt burning, Now I am coming to Thailand during the flood. Do I have bad timing or what?
I talked to my Thai GF and she said that many girls are going home because of a lack of customers. If we go. They will come. Or we both will come. Whatever.I thought maybe they would all head to Pattaya for lost revenue.
Instead of continuing to toot your horn, why don't you talk about and show some compassion for the millions that are displaced and the 100's who have died.
It is now all about you guessing right.To be honest, if you build a mega city right on a river Delta you have to expect it to get flooded every 20 years or whatever. If you buy a luxury home on a beach then you have to expect a Tsunami. If you buy a home in a earthquake zone you have to expect earthquakes.
Human stupidity plus mother nature = natural disasters.
Bangkok is in a place where no mega city should ever have been built. It is sinking and will be permanantly flooded before too many more decades pass.
With regards to mongering choices, today is the last day of the 5 day holiday, and yes a few girls went home for the 5 day holiday, but they will all be back tomorrow and many more new girls will be back who presently cannot work as their factory is flooded.
As far as mongering goes, the coming few months should offer very good choice with lots of supply, meaning prices should be easily negotiated downwards.
Hi, I have been in Bangkok for the last 3 days, living in suk soi 29 no water or rain for the past few days, would like to let you know there is no problem at all in this part of Bangkok, no signs of any water or rain, yes the media has a lot to show and say, but this area of Bangkok which is the main mongering area is not affected at all, because of the government declared holiday the roads ar e quite empty am happy to see free roads finally in all these years, girls availability in all bars is a plenty, not much competition as there hardly any tourists, all major shopping malls are open, all major mps are open, yes quite a no. Of girls have gone back home, but still many are available as there hardly any takers for the ones left, so no problems at all, Pattaya, koh samui and phuket are quite unaffected, Pattaya is full though maybe difficult getting reservations, so don't worry and come on over, happy Halloween.
http://crisischic.tumblr.com/
Giotto
Bangkok was originally selected as a capital after the Burmese sacked Ayuthia in 1767 and the Siamese moved down to Thonburi. They moved across the river to Bangkok to be safer from future Burmese attacks. The low ground was considered a plus for the defense of the new capitol. Some years ago the Thai government commissioned a study mainly involving the traffic woes of Bangkok. The Germans who conducted the study had one major conclusion and 74 recommendations. The major conclusion was that Bangkok must be abandoned as the capital. Four of the recommendations were implemented.
Bangkok Pinklao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ3dv1hhr80& AMP; sns=tw.
Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=pinklao+Bangkok&oe=utf-8&rls=org. Mozilla:en-US. Fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=CVuuTuSbFoTJrAetyY21BQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=3&ved=0CBMQ_AUoAg.
Giotto
God bless yongluck. I had my doubts in her unusual way of handling a crisis. But she made the right call saving inner Bangkok while flooding the rest of the country!
What a national disaster if nana plaza and soi cowboy got wiped out.You think God is listening to you? I mean he didn't stop the flood so why would he bless Yingluck now, because you said it? National disaster no way, but it might be quite an improvement to wipe those two joints out as they are largely out of step with the masses.
Pictures:
http://thaitvnews.********.com/2011/10/3054_31.html
(replace ********** with b l o g s p o t)
Giotto
I was in Thailand during the Yellow Shirt uprising, I was in Thailand for the Red Shirt burning, Now I am coming to Thailand during the flood. Do I have bad timing or what?Let us know your traveling plans for Thailand 2012.
We are eager to know.
LOL
Awesome photos (the Atlantic, Part II) :
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/thailand-floods-pass-their-peak/100181/
(Photo No. 3: Read the text, click on the photo)
Don Mueang:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055644/Thailand-floods-Bangkok-Don-Mueang-Airport-pictures-extent-crisis.html?ITO=1490
Giotto
Wolvenvacht
10-31-11, 20:08
National disaster no way, but it might be quite an improvement to wipe those two joints out as they are largely out of step with the masses.Burn the heretic!
The little flood is over. It did not affect any mongering activities and all was well. As was expected by most people apart from a few panic merchants trying to mislead and scare people.
So, all the water will be gone in a couple of weeks, levels are falling, its all over, and Sukhumvit mongering area's and inner Bangkok were never affected anyway (as I said they would not be.)
So can we now move on back to mongering only and stop all this nonsense about floods.
Rocky Horror
11-01-11, 01:19
Awesome photos (the Atlantic, Part II) :
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/thailand-floods-pass-their-peak/100181/
(Photo No. 3: Read the text, click on the photo)
Don Mueang:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055644/Thailand-floods-Bangkok-Don-Mueang-Airport-pictures-extent-crisis.html?ITO=1490
GiottoThanks to everyone for the updates on the conditions. And my prayers to those that have been affected.
I'm planned for a trip arriving next week flying into BKK and staying at Admiral. My questions are: is BKK airport affected? Is the area between the airport and hotel flooded? I'm trying to keep up on the news, but is there any indication that area will become flooded?
Thanks!
The Japan Times:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20111031a1.html#.Tq8pyC63hn0.twitter
Bangkok Post describes the actual situation:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/264091/fed-up-residents-force-open-water-sluice-gates
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/509348-all-bangkok-districts-to-be-flooded-if-klong-sam-was-sluice-gate-further-opened-deputy-governor/page__st__25__p__4812777#entry4812777
Please note:
Despite all relief reports from yesterday that the high tide is over and the water can run off into the Gulf of Thailand now the problem remains. There is an interesting map in the Bangkok Post piece. Worth to take a look.
The discussion about opening flood gates is ongoing. It looks to me that it is an apolitical discussion. One side believes that opening the flood gates helps to increase the water quantity being moved southwards, the other side sees the risks that wider parts of Bangkok gets flooded, including the last remaining dry industrial parks of this part of the country. Now you can argue whether it is right or wrong to socialize the flood and let everybody take his share (means also the central Bangkokians). The government has to make this decision.
Right now the flood gates are opened more and more, citizens on the northern side of the flood gates fight for opening those gates hoping to lower the water levels in their home areas. There are serious conflicts ongoing there.
As for the past few days the water moved southwards into Lak Si, Ram Inthra, Bang Khen - now approaching Lhat Phrao. Ratchadapisek Soi 36 was mentioned, too, this morning.
I don't know what the right thing to do is. Politicizing Know-It-All's (even from Japan, as you can read in the Japan Times) can make their statements, if they wish. I just know what will happen if too much water is released through the city and the canals are overflowing. We saw it in Lak Si and Ram Inthra, when the rain drainage system reversed and the water was coming out of the drains flooding the streets. Those areas are still flooded right now.
Those who believe that this cannot happen in other parts of the city could be proven wrong very soon.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS:
To believe that the situation in Bangkok can be simplified to only looking at central Bangkok is inhuman, to a certain extend. The flood situation in the west and the north of the city is disastrous. People living in 50cm - 100cm more and more polluted water - there still is a catastrophe ongoing, also here in Bangkok!
Bangkok was originally selected as a capital after the Burmese sacked Ayuthia in 1767 and the Siamese moved down to Thonburi. They moved across the river to Bangkok to be safer from future Burmese attacks. The low ground was considered a plus for the defense of the new capitol. Some years ago the Thai government commissioned a study mainly involving the traffic woes of Bangkok. The Germans who conducted the study had one major conclusion and 74 recommendations. The major conclusion was that Bangkok must be abandoned as the capital. Four of the recommendations were implemented.So they filled all of the drainage canals over the years and even though they stopped wholesale cutting of forests, the rapid run-off was NEVER really addressed. As to what to do about Grungthep itself, this will REPEAT itself with the next monsoon season, or more specifically with the next major typhoon that goes north Pattaya is only BEGINNING to address THEIR drainage / flooding issues.
This IS, after all, Thailand and the the khon Thai have a certain hardheadedness personifying the old saw about "Those who do not learn from the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them".
Make no mistake, I LOVE this place BUT they continue to demonstrate a mentality that seems to lack a sense of planning for future events. I attribute most of that to their Buddhist nature (Take whatever comes along. It will get better later)
Is there P4P available on or near On-nut?
Hmm, I feel like I should participate in the flood conversation, but I'd rather talk about pussy. Been doing a small bit of mongering this past year. I have a good girlfriend and am trying to chill out with blowing all my baht. The latest indulgences include Lynn at Teen Love Massage on Soi 33. She's a hot one and fun in the sac. She's short as shit, but has a nice ass and a great smile. She gets fucked about three times per day, minimum, per her. If you like them dark brown, short and smiley then she's your gal.
Did a run at Cowboy not to long ago. Grabbed number 132 (I think) at Sharky's. The girl's name was Nid. 22 years old and a stunner. She has a awesome body and a great face. Sharky's is full of hot chicks and this one ranks towards the top. Hot, but not super fun in the sac, just average. 2,500 for short-time which destroys all of my principles regarding overpaying these skanks. But, I couldn't help it. I wanted that ass.
Angel Massage on Soi 24/1 is still a good place to go if you're wandering on Sukhumvit. I've had maybe 7 or 8 birds from there. However, the last girl I was with there was a total ***** and started yelling at me. Holy shit that pissed me off, but I don't want to do battle in Thailand and end up in a ditch somewhere so I told her off quietly while making my way to the door with a commitment to put the place on ice for a few months. Thankfully, we did the deed before she started ranting. BTW, she was ranting about how she's a high class ho and should never be asked for seconds. Hey, if you like the food, who doesn't ask for seconds? She could have just said "no" without going nuts.
Finally, to the title of this post and my question: there are a lot of Thai karaoke-type places on On-nut. Do you guys now if a falang can squeeze some P4P out of them? Or, are their other massage parlors or bars around here that will do P4P? I live in the area and I'm getting lazier and lazier to venture down Suk-on-this for action. There's a lot of women that work in the bars and go-gos but live around here (so I've heard) and I'm hopeful there's some local options available. I'd love to get the names of some places you all have visited on On-nut, prices and SOP. All input is welcome and appreciated!
Cheers,
J Ride
The little flood is over. It did not affect any mongering activities and all was well.My oh my,
How strangely characters of people can mutate if they reduce themselves to only follow their biological (animal) instincts.
Yep,"all was well". And all is well right now for those people out there living in flood waters.
Giotto
Thanks to everyone for the updates on the conditions. And my prayers to those that have been affected.
I'm planned for a trip arriving next week flying into BKK and staying at Admiral. My questions are: is BKK airport affected? Is the area between the airport and hotel flooded? I'm trying to keep up on the news, but is there any indication that area will become flooded?
Thanks!Look.
The airport is not affected.
Road from airport to downtown not affected.
Sukhumvit not affected.
Normal mongering places not affected.
Inner Bangkok not affected.
Do not believe half the nonsense posted about the floods.
ITS ALL OVER NOW, outer Bangkok is being drained and in a couple of weeks its all gone.
I pity anyone who read half the nonsense and cancelled their trips to Bangkok. Its just not a problem in inner Bangkok where all the tourists, and mongerers go.
Enjoy your time, all is fine. Carry on mongering and ignore those who continue to bleat about these man made floods you will not see in your trip to Bangkok unless you go way outside the normal area's and go looking for them.
We struggle to regard it as a newspaper here in Japan. It really is full of writers like this guy who are just wankers and blow hards. They have not really even covered the olympus debacle at all and basically their bullshit reporters are too scared to do any real investigative journalism. Even if they do that the editors would stop it as it is not cool to rock the boat.
Just ignore Japantimes guys. They are full of shit.
The girl's name was Nid. 22 years old and a stunner. She has a awesome body and a great face. Sharky's is full of hot chicks and this one ranks towards the top. Hot, but not super fun in the sac, just average. 2,500 for short-time which destroys all of my principles regarding overpaying these skanks. But, I couldn't help it. I wanted that ass.Was it 2500+600 (barfine) =3100b? Did you negotiate?
Frequently asked question :) : How safe is Suvarnabhumi [airport]?
Answer: Am I Jesus?
http://twitpic.com/79efvo
Giotto
Frequently asked question. : How safe is Suvarnabhumi [airport]?
Answer: Am I Jesus?
http://twitpic.com/79efvo
GiottoHere is another. What is the weather going to like on December 10 when I go on my trip?
Answer: Am I a fricken weather man? :)
Frequently asked question. : How safe is Suvarnabhumi [airport]?
Answer: Am I Jesus?
http://twitpic.com/79efvo
GiottoBe careful to make such a statement these days in BKK.
Somebody migh ask you either walk on waters or split them,
2500 is fair negotiation not necessary. He stated girl was a stunner with a hot body. These don't go for 1k short time.How does this answer the question?
Mongernerd
11-02-11, 02:45
Has anyone been to Kamphaeng Phet 7 since they finished the Airport Rail link? For those that don't know this area, it is Kamphaeng Phet 7, parallel to and just North of Phetchaburi road between Asok-Din Daeng and Phet Utai. Also, this is just east of the Phetchaburi MRT station. My question is whether the ladies are on the small street to the North side of the Airport rail link, or the two lane road just South of the Airport rail link. Both sides seemed dead, but perhaps I picked a bad day or a bad time.
Thanks guys!
CNBC: Worst Is Not Over for Bangkok.
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000054777
To all those following the Klong Sam Wa sluice gate story, and have difficulties to evaluate the information, here my impression:
The water quantity running through that sluice gate (now opened 1 m) is NOT sufficient to flood all of Bangkok's central districts. The water was also popping up in the Ram Inthra area south of the gate BEFORE the sluice gate was opened. There are many leaks and breaks in the northern flood barrier, the flooding in general is moving south in many northern areas of Bangkok, but it moves slowly. The real risk results from the huge water masses north of Bangkok (still approx. 12 bio cbm of water out there), and the weather. Nobody really knows how much water will hit Bangkok in the coming days, and if it then starts to rain again ... . Furthermore the next high tide of the Gulf of Thailand starts this weekend.
The Klong Sam Wa dispute seams to me to be built up as the "scapegoat story" for the politicians, preparing for the finger-pointing once the flood recedes. A quite dirty game, in my POV, not very helpful.
There are reports from residents in Sukhumvit and Rama IV looking into the metal grill canal covers in their streets. Water with strong current is flowing there approx. 1 m below the street surface. While it makes sense to use the drainage system to route the water below the city to the pump stations this will massively backfire if it starts to rain!
Giotto
PS: 02.11.2001, 10.35 am: Water on Ratchadaphisek
twitpic.com/79n433
Bang Khen now an evacuation zone:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/509537-thailand-live-wednesday-2-nov-2011/page__st__25__p__4815375#entry4815375
That's here (south east of the Klong Sam Wa sluice gate, north of Lat Phrao):
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bang+khen+Bangkok&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x311d7d4c868f93d1:0x30100b25de24dd0,Bang+Khen,+Bangkok,+Thailand&ei=7sCwTp7TMoWyrAfOo_xi&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCEQ8gEwAA
For those watching Al Jazeerah:
AJ reports that the Chao Phraya river reached record levels today (3.3 m). No idea where this info comes from - but there is NO MAJOR PROBLEM for the CENTRAL DISTRICTS of Bangkok right now coming from the river. For the western parts of the city (other side of the river) - different story.
Good god!
All the good places to find hookers in Bangkok-you want to find those who ply their trade on the side of railroad tracks-what am I missing here?They are probably about 200-300 a pop. Place to go I guess if you don't have money.
They are probably about 200-300 a pop. Place to go I guess if you don't have money.No actually I think he is talking about the area on Makkasan Road that is directly behind LaBelle Massage parlor. There are some real stunners there. Price is fixed at 1500 baht and it is mainly a Thai scene with punters pulling up in their cars.
FROC press release for foreigners:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=290679507620968
Bangkok Post: Northern floodwater continues march to city heart
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/264454/northern-floodwater-continues-march-to-city-heart
Bloomberg: Yingluck Backs Down on Bangkok Drainage Plan
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-02/bangkok-chief-tells-police-to-defend-floodgates-as-inner-city-threatened.html
(that's a follow-up on the political game I mentioned yesterday)
Flood water reaches Ratchayothin, here the map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ratchayothin+Bangkok&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=qxayTv7vDYbkrAeBk6BW&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=3&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg
Giotto
PS:
Regarding the "yellow" woman being responsible for the flooding:
Bangkok Post, statement of the Governor of the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand (Egat):
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/264457/egat-chief-says-dams-not-to-blame
FROC press release for foreigners:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=290679507620968
Bangkok Post: Northern floodwater continues March to city heart.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/264454/northern-floodwater-continues-march-to-city-heart
Bloomberg: Yingluck Backs Down on Bangkok Drainage Plan.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-02/bangkok-chief-tells-police-to-defend-floodgates-as-inner-city-threatened.html
(that's a follow-up on the political game I mentioned yesterday)
GiottoGiotto,
Great srvice!
Future mongering competition on "higher grounds" in central Bangkok:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/media/content/2011/11/02/CD2A87ECB3D04862A8C64E7E304F1068.jpg
Flood map:
http://maps.google.fr/maps/ms?msid=203278216882407399461.0004af623e23c9dccde11&msa=0&ll=13.805409,100.568848&spn=0.101522,0.181789
Giotto
Jackson, can we please stop all this Flood Reporting crap now.
Back to the world of mongering, a lot of girls have gone home and stayed there, or moved down to Pattaya and Phuket. They are not planning to come back until December as too many tourists have been scared off of Bangkok by the media reports and scare mongering.
In response to the earlier question, I checked 7-11, Family Marts and Tops yesterday and all have bottled water. Bit low on snacks and things (dry food) as everyone has been hoarding and so stocks have run low and the supply chain cannot cope with all the sudden buying, but apart from that all is normal.
Pictures from Nakhon Sawan, after the flood receded:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.230854000311593.61374.100001609838478&type=1
Giotto
Yesterday, a guy made the trip out to Chang Wattana to renew his visa, Here's the video:
http://vimeo.com/31506833
Future mongering competition on "higher grounds" in central Bangkok:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/media/content/2011/11/02/CD2A87ECB3D04862A8C64E7E304F1068.jpgHahaha.
"Pro" rats looking for a good deal on ST! ;)
It's high & dry here on Sathorn Road. But the sandbags keep piling up?
Yesterday, a guy made the trip out to Chang Wattana to renew his visa, Here's the video:
http://vimeo.com/31506833I very much appreciate your video which was rivetting! I lived in Central Bangkok for many years and indeed I still visit every two to three months so I have a permanent affinity with everything Thai!
I work in West Africa at the moment and I am due next in BKK early January 2012!
Once again thanks for your very moving piece of work.
Best regards.
Barry Goddard
Guess the floods not only affected the big multinationals. Went to Poseidon with a friend after work a few days ago, we got there around 8, and the pickings were slim. The mama san said that most of the girls left Bangkok and went back to the provinces. I was last here in early October and it was packed with girls on the second and third floors. And it looks like most of the Russian girls at CM2 have headed out to Pattaya.
Jackson, can we please stop all this Flood Reporting crap now.LOL,
First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.
Text book example for hypocrisy.
Giotto
PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". 430 + people dead up to now.
LOL,
First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.
Text book example for hypocrisy.
Giotto.
PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". 430 + people dead up to now. Go ahead Giotto. You are providing a decent, regular, quite neutral level of information for all of us away of LOS but caring to what is going on.
Only in the past few days western media seem to have noticed there is a bit too much water in some streets of BKK adn around.
Fact is that images are showing the most flooded parts, giving the idea the whole of BKK is like this.
We do no not underestimate the broadness of the flood, but it is not as wide as depicted (still we feel simpathy for those affected, even if it is only a small soi)
With regard to the pro, well we all know that if there is no price flame he is not interested in anything.
LOL,
First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.
Text book example for hypocrisy.
Giotto.
PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". 430 + people dead up to now. Dear Giotto, in my opinion your contributions in this topic is great and I kindly ask you to keep us posted. If some day I chanege my opinion don't worry in my computer I have a DELETE option. Thanks
Traveler1234
11-03-11, 19:33
LOL,
First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.
Text book example for hypocrisy.
Giotto.
PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". 430 + people dead up to now. Keep up the good work. It's appreciated by 99% of us!
I to appreciate greatly your updates on the Flood. I live up here in Nongbulamphu (Kutdu village) and though we are not encountering floods I am greatly interested in the the rest of Thailand. Specially Bangkok! Thank You!
LOL,
First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.
Text book example for hypocrisy.
Giotto.
PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". 430 + people dead up to now.
Member #4698
11-03-11, 20:32
Yesterday, a guy made the trip out to Chang Wattana to renew his visa, Here's the video:http://vimeo.com/31506833
As I watched the part of the video where the aid worker is treading barefoot down a flooded street, I thought to myself, no way would I do that; a really dangerous move. The road has become a god dam sewer. Polluted water combined with sharp unseen objects. Forget the visa, guy. Then I read this report in the Wall Street Journal about the danger of disease in the flooded areas. This is very serious. 'Thai Flooding Causes Threat of Disease:'
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904577015522726283442.html?grcc=grdt&mod=WSJ_hps_sections_world
All this is very sad to me as I love Thailand, escpecially BKK. One of the major things that is and will be happening is the disease factor. Respiratory and body infections, athletes foot, dengue fever, diarrhea, vomitting, etc. There is filthy water and human/animal fecal matter floating all over the place. Not in Suk I know, but other areas are really suffering.
One thing to think about is the health of the girls. Many of these infections can be transmitted to others. I have known mongers who claim they got dengue fever from girls. Mainly transmitted through mosquito bites, it can also be transmitted via blood.
Be careful out there everyone.
I have known mongers who claim they got dengue fever from girls. Mainly transmitted through mosquito bites, it can also be transmitted via blood.Do you have any references to factional information that support this statement?
All I could find was: "Transmission of the Dengue Virus"
"Dengue is transmitted between people by the mosquitoes Aedes aegypti and Aedes albopictus, which are found throughout the world. Insects that transmit disease are vectors. Symptoms of infection usually begin 4. 7 days after the mosquito bite and typically last 3. 10 days. In order for transmission to occur the mosquito must feed on a person during a 5- day period when large amounts of virus are in the blood; this period usually begins a little before the person become symptomatic. Some people never have significant symptoms but can still infect mosquitoes. After entering the mosquito in the blood meal, the virus will require an additional 8-12 days incubation before it can then be transmitted to another human. The mosquito remains infected for the remainder of its life, which might be days or a few weeks.
In rare cases dengue can be transmitted in organ transplants or blood transfusions from infected donors, and there is evidence of transmission from an infected pregnant mother to her fetus. But in the vast majority of infections, a mosquito bite is responsible."
From: http://www.cdc.gov/dengue/epidemiology/index.html
Trust me guys, you don't want to get Dengue Fever. And, about the only way you will get it from a P4P girl is if she has it, and the mosquito that bites her decides to bite you on your bare ass next!
Thanks for the correction. I misunderstood it as it says the fever can be spread through"blood products" The example they gave for that is syringes.
It is still something to be generally concerned about, especially in SEA when you have all the current flood / water issues.
Thanks for the correction. I misunderstood it as it says the fever can be spread through "blood products" The example they gave for that is syringes.
It is still something to be generally concerned about, especially in SEA when you have all the current flood / water issues.Definitely! You can contract Dengue Fever anytime from a mosquito bite. And, it's the DAYTIME mosquitoes that carry it!
I was infected while staying in Pattaya last summer. Not fun, as I was very sick for several weeks, and some of the affects lingered for months.
Charlie Horse
11-04-11, 01:04
Star Wars fanatic choked his Thai bride to death after she destroyed his collection of toys.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056923/Rickie-la-Touche-choked-Thai-bride-Pornpilai-Srisroy-destroyed-Star-Wars-toys.html#ixzz1cdTqklh2
This chap is going to be doing it Han Solo for at least the next 12 years.
AlLostInSpace13
11-04-11, 02:34
This flood is very much related to my mongering habit in BKK. I want to know what the situation is like around the play areas. G. You've got my vote.
Spaceman
Friday. 04. 11. 2011, 10:00 am: Areas in Lat Phrao flooded, levels rising. Water in front of Chao Phraya Park hotel on Ratchadapisek Road.
That's here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Chaophya+Park+Hotel&fb=1&hq=Chaophya+Park+Hotel&cid=0, 0.8554025009856024625&ei=XlizToGxCIzorQfb4OW8Aw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&ved=0CDQQ_BI.
Bloomberg: Yingluck Banks on $26B Rebuilding Plan
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-03/yingluck-banks-on-26-billion-plan-after-thai-flood-stumble-.html
The Nation: Crocs attack
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Lak-Si-resident-attacked-by-crocodile-30169215.html
(that's new, I thought all crocs are working in Nana and Cowboy)
Giotto
.
We do no not underestimate the broadness of the flood, but it is not as wide as depicted (still we feel simpathy for those affected, even if it is only a small soi)
1/5 of Bangkok is flooded right now. The problem is, that nobody really knows where this run-off stops. The natural way off the northern run-off leads through Bangkok, and there are still huge quantities out there in the north.
The water is closing in on the center of Bangkok every day. It has not been stopped yet. The information and statements we get from all sides are contradicting. The specialist who was most precise in his predictions up to now is a guy named Dr. Seri. He expects the water to reaching Victory monument within the next few days.
My impression is, that the water will NOT reach the Sukhumvit mongering areas, if it does not start to rain.
Flood simulation:
http://ws3-er.eng.hokudai.ac.jp/dpr/dpr_eng/?p=736
Bangkok Post: Lat Krabang estate at risk
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/264625/lat-krabang-estate-at-risk
(looking at the map of this piece, do I see the airport there somewhere :) ? )
Giotto
LOL,
First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.
Text book example for hypocrisy.
Giotto
PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". 430 + people dead up to now. You Giotto, advised people not to come to Bangkok as it would all be flooded.
I said come, it will not affect the mongering area's. You have continued your scare stories before and after and you are wrong.
With regards to 430 dead, it was well over 300 before the floods hit Bangkok, and you did not seem to care over 300 were dead in the north, north east and centre plains. When the water arrived into Bangkok you started caring, just like all Bangkok people. Its a problem if it affects you, and if it does not then you are as quiet as a mouse about it.
Perhaps since you are quoting the figure you might like to clarify how many are dead in Bangkok, and how many in the rest of Thailand.
This subject should be in the expats section as it simply has nothing to do with Bangkok reports, or mongering in Bangkok.
You should feel ashamed Giotto for telling people not to visit Bangkok some weeks back. All you have done is made people change or cancel their trips when there was no need to at all.
Dash Riprock
11-04-11, 05:36
Sure, come if you're already booked, there's still fun to be had, but in my opinion FAR less fun than if the country didn't have to deal with this flood disaster. More girls than ever are simply back home moving their families around and dealing with day to day troubles. If you have to hunt for bottled water, yes it does classify as a serious situation. The lower tap water quality also means issues for restaurant meals as well. They don't use bottled water at most places like Fuji, MK, Sizzler, etc. For cooking. They use large bulk water filters. These sometimes can't handle the extra contaminants. The RO filter at my house here at the moment, we have to change the rough filter every 3 days at the moment because we can visually see huge sediment buildup. Normally, we only have to change it once a month.
And, about the only way you will get it from a P4P girl is if she has it, and the mosquito that bites her decides to bite you on your bare ass next!I saw my doctor this morning and just for fun asked him if it was possible to get dengue from a bargirl. He had a good laugh and said, 'Only from the daytime ones! '
You Giotto, advised people not to come to Bangkok as it would all be flooded.The Pro,
You should at least stick with the truth. Here the link to my report with my personal view of the situation (26. 10. 2011) :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1210312&viewfull=1#post1210312
I never "advised people not to come to Bangkok as it would all be flooded", I clearly pointed out the reasons why I would not recommend to travel to Bangkok that time.
Will think about whether I have to be ashamed about what I have written.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
PS: In regards of water not reaching mongering areas, look at the map below, showing the Chaophya Park Hotel (E) and Poseidon Entertainment Complex (A).
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Poseidon+bangkok&fb=1&hq=Poseidon&hnear=0x311d6032280d61f3:0x36458563858b0fc7,Bangkok,+Thailand&ei=aYyzTsXiBM3PrQequIXXAw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&ved=0CAYQtgM
The Economist: Rising damp.
http://www.economist.com/node/21536652
Asien Correspondent: Thailand floods threaten Bangkok subway
http://asiancorrespondent.com/68893/thailand-floods-threaten-bangkok-subway/
Picture: Outside Lat Phrao MRT station
http://yfrog.com/h3mfagxaj
Giotto
The "flood" subject should be debated here and notbin the expat forum.
Expats do not need advices or reports as either their feet are dry or wet: the can see and notice that!
It is the faring planning a trip who should know what is going on, where and how.
Canceling a trip in a disaster area is also wiser since the locals will have less people to worry about.
Especially in terms of supplies (food and water) that are orvcan challenged at this time.
Less demand of water will also avoid price speculations since farangs will be paying whatever price (and will still becfar cheaper than at home)
It might affect temporarily the local economy, very true.
But it is affected anyhow with or without visitors.
If for instance LL is fully dry but can't get food supplies on regular basis or it is heavily understaffed, what's the point of creating aggravations!
Not for nothing lots of locals moved to Pattaya.
A medical remedy is to put the patient in artificial coma, to light a lot of body functions and alleviate its work.
Cunning Stunt
11-04-11, 09:57
It's an ill wind that blows no good and I imagine builders and sandbag sellers are making a killing at the moment. But these impromptu walls that are springing up everywhere are not without their dangers. Witnessed this at first hand yesterday when I watched an elderly lady try to clamber over one outside a restaurant. She tripped and went flying headfirst into glass plate doors. Luckily the glass held and her flying headbutt did not appear to have inflicted permanent damage on the poor dears cranium. But I wonder if retail establishment in Thailand are required to have liability insurance? I guess not.
Updated map 04. 11. 2011, 5 pm:
http://maps.google.fr/maps/ms?msid=203278216882407399461.0004af623e23c9dccde11&msa=0&ll=13.808076,100.565243&spn=0.09752,0.181789
Giotto
Member #4807
11-04-11, 11:58
Land of Smiles aka Land of maximum confusion, just cancelled my trip, end of story!
Capitalized On
11-04-11, 13:59
The only thing I can add is Thank God for making Thai people- have you heard any whining and complaining to the world? No. If this was New Orleans with fat dumpy lazy americans waiting for 'the gubmint' to come save them we would hear no end about how they were suffereing.
Horny Landoora
11-04-11, 14:21
I think Giotto is doing the right thing by making people aware of the situation hands on. He is better placed being there to guide us what is the real situation.
Also ultimately if hes asking people to postpone its for their not his benefit. Being a lodge owner if his guests cancel he loses money but besides thenpoint taking time out to update prospective people planning a trip to Bangkok is a great thing in my opinion.
Surely some areas are not flooding at this stage but is there a guarantee it would be same in 2 or 3 days from today? Atleast whosoever is planning is better prepared thanks to his daily updates. I don't think he needs to be ashamed for being helpful and getting the word out.
Cheers
Dash Riprock
11-04-11, 16:21
The only thing I can add is Thank God for making Thai people- have you heard any whining and complaining to the world? No. If this was New Orleans with fat dumpy lazy americans waiting for 'the gubmint' to come save them we would hear no end about how they were suffereing.There isn't much complaining to the world, but there certainly is a lot of complaining in general. People are blaming the gov't for mismanagement of the situation and there is growing discontent that too many folks are taking a bullet for the sake of central Bangkok. There are definitely thieves out and about taking advantage of abandoned homes. That said, it is better than the whole Katrina mess of looting and whining.
Keep up the good work. It's appreciated by 99% of us!Giotto is my friend and I trust what he says. Thank you, Giotto, for the updated information. Your reports are better than what I am reading in the Nation or Bangkok Post. I wish you the best of luck and hope you and your friends and loved ones come through this ok.
The only thing I can add is Thank God for making Thai people- have you heard any whining and complaining to the world? No. If this was New Orleans with fat dumpy lazy americans waiting for 'the gubmint' to come save them we would hear no end about how they were suffereing.You made a very big point!
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