View Full Version : Bangkok Reports
Starchild2012
01-28-12, 08:36
Wow. Fantastic report Sky Rider. Thanks. What is the name of the club. I wish to experience the same joy you had soon. .
Getting laid. Ahh well. We can do that any time. I just want to have a different experience while in Bangkok.
Regarding the number. I'm not sure. I think you called her too soon. Remember three day rule. Hahaha. I think most of these girls are mall models and college girls etc. One could have them with patience. Thanks for the detailed report
What a bunch of idiocy.
I'd rather be a farang and go to places where the girls will actually have sex with me.
Overpriced clubs where the girls will only talk with you is normally the domain of emasculated Japanese men.GB,
I would say that you showed the very definition of idiocy with your post. One thing is for sure, there are ample opportunities for you to do just what you would rather do, but that doesn't in any way diminish my experience or the pleasure I experienced from it. I am far from Japanese, nor would anyone I know consider me emasculated. Maybe next time you should actually try reading for comprehension. I put a disclaimer on the post in the beginning, not that it really matters. Your opinion is yours, and fortunately for me, it doesn't make a material difference to me either way. I sincerely hope you get exactly what you want. And deserve!
GentleBoner
01-28-12, 12:10
GB,
I would say that you showed the very definition of idiocy with your post. One thing is for sure, there are ample opportunities for you to do just what you would rather do, but that doesn't in any way diminish my experience or the pleasure I experienced from it. I am far from Japanese, nor would anyone I know consider me emasculated. Maybe next time you should actually try reading for comprehension. I put a disclaimer on the post in the beginning, not that it really matters. Your opinion is yours, and fortunately for me, it doesn't make a material difference to me either way. I sincerely hope you get exactly what you want. And deserve!Your post said that a club that provided a pretty girl who spent an hour or so entertaining you, didn't have sex with you and then didn't answer your SMS is the best club you've ever been to in 50 years of international travel and was a "once in a lifetime" experience.
BS.
Tony Hoeprano
01-28-12, 12:35
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill; 1241730]Don't be so naive.
Girls and boys who do the TAGGED thing deserve each other. So ez to meet prostitutes- I always wonder why you need to go the internet route. LOLActually, to have non p4p girls show me around and I can take pictures with my new DSLR camera at tourist spots to show friends and family that I'm not there just for the girls LOL.
There's a few keepers from the websites. I met a relatively hot girl who was dating an English teacher, actually she is still with him, yet she likes to stray and have fun with hot farangs (I'm actually half Jap). She's always complaining he never has money though.
Your post said that a club that provided a pretty girl who spent an hour or so entertaining you, didn't have sex with you and then didn't answer your SMS is the best club you've ever been to in 50 years of international travel and was a "once in a lifetime" experience.
BS.GB,
If that is what you took away from my post then all I can say is that you were not the "target audience", and I am okay with that. I don't have the need for everyone to find my puny little contributions worthy of their time and consideration. If one or two people find it interesting or maybe even brought a sly grin to their face, then it was more than worthwhile. It is obvious we view the world (or at least this part of it) through a different lens, which makes me happy as well. I am pretty content with what I see, I am sure that you are equally happy with yours.
I'll try not to make value judgements as to which is the "better" of the two, and soldier on as best I can.
CoyoteLover
01-28-12, 13:56
the g in g-club stands for gentlemen. this is why cavemen have issues understanding the concept.
g-clubs are not over-priced. they are entertainment venues and the entertainment you get is top notch. few months ago we had a bodyslam mini-concert at a g-club.
if you think you pulled a "real stunner" from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), more power to you. if you think whenever you pay for a person's time in bangkok the time must end with cumming in her ass, then you are better off staying away.
the g-club concept is absolutely valid if you have the acumen to make it work and you will absolutely be able to get laid from there but it's simply not guaranteed. most of the girls are pretty and i mean pretty on the thai scale, not the strange "i pulled a real stunner from [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s" pretty. they are not single. they are not sex workers. they are dancers and entertainers.
some are up for it due to financial motivation and some are just single (timing is everything) and take a liking to a customer.
if you go in there (a mistake i made the first few times when i started going to these places) thinking you are paying 3000-4000 baht tonight so you better get a pop out of it you will have a shitty night. if you go in there to hang out with beautiful girls, see penthouse models stripping, listen to good live music, eat and get absolutely wasted, you are in the right place. shagging the girl is an optional bonus. go in with that attitude and you will never look back.
seems most farang don't understand that concept though. place i go to i am usually the only non-thai in the room. i have brought a few farang there as my guests in the past and some loved it, others were like "meh, for those 3k i could have long timed someone".
it's horses for courses.
The G in G-club stands for gentlemen. This is why cavemen have issues understanding the concept.
G-clubs are not over-priced. They are entertainment venues and the entertainment you get is top notch. Few months ago we had a Bodyslam mini-concert at a G-Club.
It's horses for courses.CL,
I couldn't agree more. IMHO, there is more to life than being the "shag du jour" for a lass that is using what skills she has to make a living. Not that there is ANYTHING wrong with that and I certainly enjoy bumping uglies with a beautiful gal, regardless of the monetary arrangement. I also enjoy the company of a beautiful lady on occasion that is just that. Company and a fun evening playing around. As you say, on occasion that turns into a great experience that is "off the books"!
I really didn't mean to cause a controversy, just share a magical night. At least in my view.
Member #4698
01-28-12, 17:29
I appreciate what you guys are saying. G clubs have top model quality talent not usually found in Go Go's. Furthermore, these clubs can be an entertaining way to spend an evening drinking and being attended to by very attractive ladies. I think it works if you have the time, the cash, and the game to make it work. If I were staying in BKK for a month or longer, these venues might be a really good means to gain access to the type of girls I really want to get to get it on with and not for just one night. Becoming a member is the first step. Another issue with these clubs is that they are more geared to the group party not an individual. If I were to go into a club solo, I am sure they would try to accommodate me and make me feel at home, but all the costs would be on me and I think the expense would be considerable. Still I have always thought about giving it a try whenever I am in BKK and have the time, but so far, I have never got around to doing it. High end soapies have some very attractive girls too.
the g in g-club stands for gentlemen. this is why cavemen have issues understanding the concept.
g-clubs are not over-priced. they are entertainment venues and the entertainment you get is top notch. few months ago we had a bodyslam mini-concert at a g-club.
if you think you pulled a "real stunner" from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), more power to you. if you think whenever you pay for a person's time in bangkok the time must end with cumming in her ass, then you are better off staying away.
the g-club concept is absolutely valid if you have the acumen to make it work and you will absolutely be able to get laid from there but it's simply not guaranteed. most of the girls are pretty and i mean pretty on the thai scale, not the strange "i pulled a real stunner from [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s" pretty. they are not single. they are not sex workers. they are dancers and entertainers.
some are up for it due to financial motivation and some are just single (timing is everything) and take a liking to a customer.
if you go in there (a mistake i made the first few times when i started going to these places) thinking you are paying 3000-4000 baht tonight so you better get a pop out of it you will have a shitty night. if you go in there to hang out with beautiful girls, see penthouse models stripping, listen to good live music, eat and get absolutely wasted, you are in the right place. shagging the girl is an optional bonus. go in with that attitude and you will never look back.
seems most farang don't understand that concept though. place i go to i am usually the only non-thai in the room. i have brought a few farang there as my guests in the past and some loved it, others were like "meh, for those 3k i could have long timed someone".
it's horses for courses.agreed! to each his own. at 46 i want to put as little effort into getting laid as possible. i have very little interest in interacting with most females unless they are well educated and well read. i doubt i would find that in a g-club, here or back home for that matter.
now, if i were 10 years younger i would be far more apt to "play the game," (and i spent plenty of eves in piano 10 plus years ago) or it would for sure be worth a good chunk of change to be able to st with gals you see at g-clubs and have them perform, but as i said, for me not worth the effort. at this age it is all about me, and it is the girl that needs to do the entertaining. i never have been one for wh&emancing!
Globetrotter
01-28-12, 17:59
Sky Rider,
Great post! Only thing lacking was the name of the G Club for those of us who would like to check it out for ourselves. I used to spend a lot of time in LOS but these days my trips are limited to 1 or 2 days while in transit to somewhere else. Point being that I just don't have enough time to devote to hanging out in these clubs and develop relationships that would ultimately result in a "happy ending". It sounds like a lot of fun though and I can well understand your point of view. I can remember many times in the past where some of my most memorable nights were spent just hanging out having fun with one or more beautiful ladies in a club. Just drinking, chatting and laughing. Sometimes those nights ended up with sex, sometimes not, but it didn't really matter because I always had a great time just being with them in an easy, relaxed atmosphere. There is a lot to be said for that.
I've seen numerous comments on your post from individuals who think it's ludicrous to spend a few thousand baht just to have a conversation with a beautiful girl rather than spend that same amount in a soapie where there is a guaranteed (?) end result. Well, that's a valid point for many guys who only have a short time to spend and need to make the most of it but one shouldn't dispute the fact that now and then, a great time can be had even if there is no sex involved. Gogo's and soapies can become very mundane and uninspiring after a while and it's nice to do something different which can be even more fulfilling. Such as a G-Club.
Kudos to you for your informative and enlightening post. I, personally, enjoyed it and hope I will someday have enough time to spend in BKK to try it out for myself.
(snip) - I really didn't mean to cause a controversy, just share a magical night. At least in my view.Hey Sky, no worries. Just a little ISG table tennis!
You had a good time in Bangkok and wrote a good report about a night out on the town. Thank you.
It's obvious, (at least to me), that some guys just don't understand this concept. For them a trip to Bangkok is all about the "release," and not much else.
I say, "to each their own." Bangkok has something for everybody.
Of course, for those just seeking a "release," this can also be done "solo" in the privacy of ones own home back in nowhere land.
But, then they would miss the fried rice and fun tuk tuk rides.
Chok dee!
Crocodilexp
01-28-12, 19:53
I have brought a few farang there as my guests in the past and some loved it, others were like "meh, for those 3k I could have long timed someone".
Nice post, those places do have an audience. However, this is International Sex Guide, so the crowd is appropriately biased.
It's not the "let's hang out and drink at posh places, massage our egos, pretend we're a big shot, and maybe seduce a haughty sponsor-seeking totty" guide. G-clubs are way too overpriced and unreliable for sex, although some people find them good value for other purposes.
GentleBoner
01-29-12, 01:34
Coyotes, g-clubs and hostess bars send the message to bargirls that men will pay them good money to be teased and emasculated as long as they're made to feel like a big shot and the girl is a bit snotty. There seems to be an assumption amongst some members of the forum that going out to girly clubs where you can't have sex with the girls somehow makes makes you more intelligent and cultured than going out to girly clubs where you can. If there is any logic behind this assumption I would like to hear it. It is quite possible to enjoy sex and not be a caveman, and paying high prices to women who won't have sex with you doesn't necessarily mean you're not a caveman.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?
Tony Hoeprano
01-29-12, 04:05
Met a nice looking young girl from DIA at Terminal 21 for a cup of coffee. Her English was pretty good and it was actually a refreshing experience to just be able to have a nice chat with a hot and well-educated Thai girl with no expectations in the end. After that, I decided to go look for some entertainment of the adult kind.
I was strutting along Soi 11 earlier in the day, I was in Koh Samet, it was nice to be back in BKK. I saw a plethora of massage girls sitting on the curb, none of them really caught my attention, until I saw a pretty hot looking ligher skinned girl. A bit tall and I asked to make sure she was not ladyboy and she was not. She took me to the massage loom and paid 300 baht for oil. The room was a very small cubicle with a mattress and the place smelled overwhelmingly of peppermint, it was not very pleasant at all. The massage was OK, she then said special massage of 1K baht extra. I thought that was fair until she took off her clothes! Wow, talk about someone looking hot in clothes and ugly without! I shriveled up like a California raisin in the middle of the Mojave Desert and told her I do not feel comfortable. There was actually truth to this, the place stunk like peppermint and there was a lot of noise in the background, right in front of the massage cubicle, not 3 feet away were two fellows getting a foot massage, and to think I was going to do the deed with this amount of lack of privacy? LOL
She was annoyed, then said OK, I suck you free and didn't object, although I think she would have asked for money after the deed was done. The BJ was terrible and I just told her to stop, put on my clothes and left. I would highly recommend avoiding this area for sexy massage and opt for the ones on Soi 33, especially Dream Heaven Massage.
Call me an idiot then. Sounds like Sky Ryder had a great time, and isn't that what's most important? I've been wanting to check one of these places out but have never made it.
What a bunch of idiocy.
I'd rather be a farang and go to places where the girls will actually have sex with me.
Overpriced clubs where the girls will only talk with you is normally the domain of emasculated Japanese men.
Coyotes, g-clubs and hostess bars send the message to bargirls that men will pay them good money to be teased and emasculated as long as they're made to feel like a big shot and the girl is a bit snotty. There seems to be an assumption amongst some members of the forum that going out to girly clubs where you can't have sex with the girls somehow makes makes you more intelligent and cultured than going out to girly clubs where you can. If there is any logic behind this assumption I would like to hear it. It is quite possible to enjoy sex and not be a caveman, and paying high prices to women who won't have sex with you doesn't necessarily mean you're not a caveman.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?GB,
First, if you are going to take me to task at least get the name correct. Secondly, why in the world would anyone need to "back me"? I related my PERSONAL experience and perception. This was not a "news article", it was my editorial on the evening as I experienced it, I am assured that had you been included you would have written an entirely different piece.
Since, you by your own admission have never been to one of these places, I don't see how you can make some of the statements you have made. I assure you that at least with the lady I was with, there was no attempt to "tease", nor was she in the least bit snotty. As far as being "emasculated", well at least IMHO, no can do that TO you, it is something an individual gives up on their own.
I never intimated that by going to this club I was somehow more cultured, or intelligent, but neither am I willing to accept that I am somehow less manly because I enjoyed an evening in the company of a beautiful lady without the guarantee that she was going to fuck my brains out.
Someone suggested that my posting was not appropriate to this forum because of the lack of sex involved, I think that I actually mentioned that I was taking a little license with the post. However, I didn't break any of the TOS on the forum and well, at the end of the day, this is and always will be Jackson's forum. He just lets us post here, I am sure that if I somehow offended him, I will find out soon enough.
Oh, and to be honest, I have absolutely no idea how "logic" applies to anything on this board. They don't intersect very often, that is for sure.
Sky
Tony Hoeprano
01-29-12, 05:16
Sexy girls, booze, party? The G-club sounds good to me, I'll have to splurge there next time I'm in BKK. I'm assuming its best to go with a wingman or group of friends rather than solo, not only to have company with the bros, but to share costs.
Out of curiosity, do they allow entry to African Americans? On my next visit to BKK, I'll be bringing along for a few days a fairly decent looking black dude.
GB,
First, if you are going to take me to task at least get the name correct. Secondly, why in the world would anyone need to "back me"? I related my PERSONAL experience and perception. This was not a "news article", it was my editorial on the evening as I experienced it, I am assured that had you been included you would have written an entirely different piece.
Since, you by your own admission have never been to one of these places, I don't see how you can make some of the statements you have made. I assure you that at least with the lady I was with, there was no attempt to "tease", nor was she in the least bit snotty. As far as being "emasculated", well at least IMHO, no can do that TO you, it is something an individual gives up on their own.
I never intimated that by going to this club I was somehow more cultured, or intelligent, but neither am I willing to accept that I am somehow less manly because I enjoyed an evening in the company of a beautiful lady without the guarantee that she was going to fuck my brains out.
Someone suggested that my posting was not appropriate to this forum because of the lack of sex involved, I think that I actually mentioned that I was taking a little license with the post. However, I didn't break any of the TOS on the forum and well, at the end of the day, this is and always will be Jackson's forum. He just lets us post here, I am sure that if I somehow offended him, I will find out soon enough.
Oh, and to be honest, I have absolutely no idea how "logic" applies to anything on this board. They don't intersect very often, that is for sure.
SkyWell I for one was very happy to read his report. It is far better to read this than to read about orchids, drinking water, and all the other crap that gets posted on here instead of in the proper spot. Many insults being flung back and forth. No wonder many members don't post anymore. Because when they do they get belittled for it! This was this members experience and a good one. I will defiantly want to go to one of these places.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?I was not going to throw the first stone, but. I too have been to one of the infamous g clubs, pretty far down Ekkamai on some soi. It only operates on Saturday nights. There were many beautiful girls. However, the girls were dancing and getting drunk. Same old, same old.
Did I have fun? Sure. But only because I went for free. I like Sang som, drinking expensive scotch is no big deal to me. The Cristal was nice for a change, but I only got to drink one glass.
Sexy girls, booze, party? The G-club sounds good to me, I'll have to splurge there next time I'm in BKK. I'm assuming its best to go with a wingman or group of friends rather than solo, not only to have company with the bros, but to share costs.
Out of curiosity, do they allow entry to African Americans? On my next visit to BKK, I'll be bringing along for a few days a fairly decent looking black dude.Tony,
I need to make sure that I don't get too far ahead on this thing. I want to make it clear that I was a GUEST of a member at this club. I have NO idea about getting into the club without a membership. I also suspect that like most venues, not all clubs are created equal, and this is the ONLY time I have ever been to a club of this type. I cannot answer your questions, sorry.
I would agree however that this was not the type of event you would want to attend solo. I am sure it is done, and I saw a number of guys sitting at the bar, that didn't appear to have wingmen, but I suspect they were regular customers, not a "one off type" of situation.
Sky
Was out last night in Bangkok. First in the afternoon went to Ez massage sukh soi 24. Nice catalog of girls, tried to pick up someone I had seen previously on their web site but I was told she had an appointment. Then went with Nancy 25 yrs and was ok choice, good service. Took 40 min special which was almost just a shower and boom boom, did not want to waste time on massage or something. Damage 1700 thb, a decent price in BKK for boom boom I think?
Night went to soi cowboy, enjoyed suzie wong shows (very crowded, why are there no shows like this in other bars, totally naked). But the looks and quality of girls not perfect, maybe I was late or maybe the attractive ones are not there. Just had beers and left. Then tried 2-3 DIA girls but all failed."Could we see tomorrow" "could we see later" and one number not workikng. One called me and promised to call again later (did not). Went to Narz with my friend, not place place, maybe if you like dancing or shouting but can't talk. Also one DIA contact was there I saw here and we texted but somehow I did not have courage to go talk to her.
Then at nana plaza I was late, do all the bars and discos really close at 2 am already? I thought last time nana 2nd floor some were open until 6. Then saw many african girls available at lower sukhumvit and ladyboy tried to pick pocket me when walking from nana to hotel on soi 18.
Any advice on a good teenage massage? Or where to go afternoon or night if just like FS? Don't like wasting time on massage or soapies. If I want massage I go to a good massage place, if boom boom then just want FS.
PM if BKK now I'm here 2-3 days then in Pattaya 3 days if you are interested go have beer maybe.
(snip) - I have NO idea about getting into the club without a membership. I also suspect that like most venues, not all clubs are created equal, and this is the ONLY time I have ever been to a club of this type. I cannot answer your questions, sorry. - I would agree however that this was not the type of event you would want to attend solo. I am sure it is done, and I saw a number of guys sitting at the bar, that didn't appear to have wingmen, but I suspect they were regular customers, not a "one off type" of situation.Preface: don't bother reading this if saving money, or just getting laid, is the goal for your Bangkok experience. There are lots of other places to go.
Most clubs allow "guests," but of course you have to pay for this "privilege." They want people to check these places out and buy memberships.
The women who work in these places are smart. Most likely they will only "go" with a guy if they like him, and see a large profit from the arrangement.
If you are a G Club member, then it would be no problem to go alone. Have a drink, say hello to a few of your favorite ladies, watch the dancers. Meet up with the gik later after she gets off work.
The following is from a Bangkok "nightlife" website:
"Gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok seem to follow a similar pricing structure. Hopefully, this will help explain why it can be an expensive night at these establishments.
Cover Charge – This normally ranges between 500 600 B, but may be as high as 1, 800 B in some establishments. You will normally get one or two drinks. You can normally circumvent this by opening a bottle of whiskey, and if you have any remainder, a bottle card will be issued to you for another visit.
Lady drinks – This is used as a measure of time or some form of token for charging you the great bill. Whenever you get a nice pretty girl to sit and chat with you, you get charged a lady drink for every 45 minutes she is with you. In some places, depending on the girl, you get charged 2 3 drinks immediately, and then 1 lady drink for the next 45 minutes. Many establishments also charge 2 3 lady drinks for the mamasans company. The girl doesn't really get a drink yet, that's just for her time. If you require the company of the girl outside the establishment, you will most often be charged 10 15 lady drinks, depeding on the day of the week. The 15 lady drink is normally applied to weekends, usually from Friday to Sundays. Most establishments charge 350 B for every lady drink, and you normally get a 20% discount if you are member.
Cocktails – these drinks are regularly requested by the girl. These drinks can drain your wallet very quickly. They cost between 350B 700B, and in some places, the 20% member's discount may not apply."
More information:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/blog/reader-submissions/2009/09/28/bangkok-g-clubs-by-bangkoknyc/
http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/other-places/g-clubs/
http://www.globalnanpa.com/blog/barclub-guide-bangkok/bangkok-gentlemen-g-clubs
Tony Hoeprano
01-29-12, 07:23
Any advice on a good teenage massage? Or where to go afternoon or night if just like FS? Don't like wasting time on massage or soapies. If I want massage I go to a good massage place, if boom boom then just want FS.The one's on soi 33 are good! Except steer clear of Akane, nothing but fuglies I'm afraid
nice post, those places do have an audience. however, this is international sex guide, so the crowd is appropriately biased.
it's not the "let's hang out and drink at posh places, massage our egos, pretend we're a big shot, and maybe seduce a haughty sponsor-seeking totty" guide. g-clubs are way too overpriced and unreliable for sex, although some people find them good value for other purposes.sorry mate but g-clubs are as much about sex as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and a nyc strip club. are the reliable sure things? nope. are they part of the same adult entertainment industry as tilac? pretty much. do you need more game to score in a g-club than in annie's? substantially. men go there for the sexual thrill and excitement of these hot women. otherwise they woul be going someplace to play checkers.
so, they are priced above what you'd like to pay for the mileage you will get. fair enough. but to say they aren't part of the core of isg shows that you would be better of with a jar of lotion and some toilet paper.
Agreed! To each his own. At 46 I want to put as little effort into getting laid as possible. I have very little interest in interacting with most females unless they are well educated and well read. I doubt I would find that in a G-Club, here or back home for that matter.Fair enough. If you are too tired to put in effort this scene is not for you. I recently was out with colleagues who were looking for rub and' tug as picking up in Orchard Towers was too much effort for them. To each his own.
The one's on soi 33 are good! Except steer clear of Akane, nothing but fuglies I'm afraidNo stunners a Akane but fuglies they're not plus If you pick the right one the service can be very sway.
http://akane-corp.com/ladies-sukhumvit-33/
After the session at Annies Massage, I grabbed a steak at a nearby restaurant and then wandered up the road to Nana Plaza to have a look at the gogo bars there. Nana Plaza is a series of bars arranged around a common courtyard and going up three floors. I wandered around the edge of the courtyard on the ground floor, having a quick look inside a couple of the bars before moving on. Eventually entered a bar called Play Skool where the dancers were wearing bikinis where I had a drink before moving on. Other bars visited as I moved my way up the building were:
Mercury (bikini)
Mandarin 2nd floor (topless)
Mandarin 3rd floor (topless)
Erotica 2nd floor (topless, skirts and no knickers)
Erotica 3rd floor (topless)
DC10 (topless and g strings with some hands on action for guys who had a girl sitting with them)
Angelwitch (choreographed show featuring some nudity)
Rainbow 4 (topless)
Spankys (topless)
Billboard (topless with a couple of nude girls soaping themselves up in a Jacuzzi.
There were also a few others which I poked my head into (including a couple of ladyboy bars) , but didn't like the look of and then moved on. Upon having done the round of the top floor it was after midnight and I was feeling a bit run down so I decided to head downstairs and back to the hotel.
Reaching the ground floor again I passed a bar called Pretty Lady which I hadn't looked into earlier. Took a quick look past the curtain covering the doorway at a fairly typical bar with about 8 dancers on stage and one dancing on a table on one side of the bar. They were all wearing bras and miniskirts. I was about to move on when the dancer closest to the door lifted her skirt to reveal that she wasn't wearing any underwear. At this point, little Toby took over and I went inside sat down on a bar stool at the edge of the stage and ordered a beer. The girl who had lifted her skirt was now dancing next to me and had stepped up on to the raised section of the stage around the edge. I was at eye level with her skirt though so couldn't see anything though. The guy who had been guarding the door wandered over and started tapping his finger on the bar in front of me and was obviously trying to tell me something. At first I couldn't work out what it was but then looked down at where he was pointing and discovered that the raised bar section around the edge of the stage was a mirror. With the girl dancing right in front of me, all I had to do was look down at the bar and could see all she had to offer.
After a visit to the men's room, I came back and the first girl was gone, but another had taken her place. She was a bit darker skinned and a bit larger build than most Thai girls, not fat, just built more like a western woman. I bought her a drink and when she's finished her dance stint, she came and sat on the bar stool next to me and after fooling around a bit she started asking the inevitable question about bar fining her. Having had sex a few hours ago I wasn't intending to do so again, but little Toby didn't agree.
We headed off to the hotel room for what was probably the best sex I've had in a while. She didn't do anything particularly spectacular, we just clicked and what followed worked really well. It was sort of like she only had one orgasm, but it lasted half an hour.
Afterwards we went back to the Pretty Lady for another drink before they closed.
Cost: 600 baht for the bar fine and then 2000 baht for her (2000 is a bit expensive but I didn't mind) $84 all up.
Just Seven
01-29-12, 13:36
Coyotes, g-clubs and hostess bars send the message to bargirls that men will pay them good money to be teased and emasculated as long as they're made to feel like a big shot and the girl is a bit snotty. There seems to be an assumption amongst some members of the forum that going out to girly clubs where you can't have sex with the girls somehow makes makes you more intelligent and cultured than going out to girly clubs where you can. If there is any logic behind this assumption I would like to hear it. It is quite possible to enjoy sex and not be a caveman, and paying high prices to women who won't have sex with you doesn't necessarily mean you're not a caveman.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?I monger in China and the Philippines. I have been to expensive secret KTVs in Shenzhen and Guangzhou where there was no point in even writing a field report because its similar to describing color to a blind man. If you do not know about it, you can't go. I had the pleasure of being with Skyrider on this trip and I do not recall the actual name of the place however it had lots of vowels and an M. So something like MAIAKE. The parking lot was filled with expensive cars and we were the only white boys in the place.
You can argue that the girls were expensive. You would be wrong. How much does a lady drink on Soi Cowboy or Nana cost and how quickly do the good looking girls slam them back and ask for another one. Lets see. I was at Baccarat on Cowboy and each lady drink was 250 and the girl kept asking for one every ten minutes. (whether I agreed to buy one or not is another story)
Could you take these girls home? Certainly. I witnessed several people going home with their hands full. Is there a set price or bar fine. Nope. Its up to YOU to make it happen. Similar to are the girls on Soi Cowboy available to take home. Certainly. Does that mean you pay the barfine and she fucks your brains out. NOPE. You still have to discuss price on ST or LT or anal or greek or ladyboy or threesome or whatever else it does that gets you off.
Have I witnessed anything like this club anywhere else before? No. I can safely say I have not. I have been to many places that had lots of beautiful women, (that wouldn't give you the time of day unless you walked in with Brad Pitt. Thats what you get for partying where the real celebs party) I have been to many places where beautiful women are excited about playing with you for money (its called a KTV and its the "normal" style mongering in China). However, most KTV girls have preset prices for short term or long term (I laugh at the locations where this has to be negotiated!). The ones that don't, do not go out. (or follow the same setup this establishment does.)
Anyway, back to this particular night. A lady drink cost 245 baht. This was the "sitting" fee for the girl to sit with you for 45 minutes (or so it was explained to me). So for 5 baht less than the lady drink I bought for the stunner in Baccarat, I had a cute fun girl that could speak perfect english partying with me. I had a hard time choosing because ALL the girls were soo good. If they were here in China with me, I would try most of them! There has not been a place like that ANYWHERE else I have been.
I am not sure if a farang could even buy a membership here as. We were the only farangs in the club that night.
Nowhere did he say that it makes you more intelligent or cultured to go to a club or bar or location where you pay money and do not have sex with the girl. He is just saying there is much more to mongering than finding the cheapest hole to stick your dick into until you cum. If YOU do not think there is, thats fine, however it does not diminish the enjoyment that people can get from whatever it is that makes them happy.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the seedy thrill of a dirt cheap fuck in the back of some hovel with a cute girl, but I also enjoy a beauty playing and dancing with me. If all you want is the orgasm, your cheapest provider is always available and directly connected to you.
CoyoteLover
01-29-12, 14:06
Sexy girls, booze, party? The G-club sounds good to me, I'll have to splurge there next time I'm in BKK. I'm assuming its best to go with a wingman or group of friends rather than solo, not only to have company with the bros, but to share costs.
Out of curiosity, do they allow entry to African Americans? On my next visit to BKK, I'll be bringing along for a few days a fairly decent looking black dude.Going solo is possible if you have been before and know whom you are going to book and theres chemistry already, she speaks English or you speak Thai, etc. But generally yeah, groups rule.
Some places have racist policies in place but the places I frequent the most are fine. You can be black, white, Indian. If you found the place and conduct yourself well you won't be refused.
CoyoteLover
01-29-12, 14:10
You are right. Mai Ake is a large and very popular club. It has been consistently busy. I have membership there since 2009 and it's my second most favorite G-Club here.
Good choice!
CoyoteLover
01-29-12, 14:27
I am not sure if a farang could even buy a membership here as. We were the only farangs in the club that night.Definitely can. You don't see many there because 1) They mostly don't "get" the concept and 2) It's far away from areas where lots of farang tend to live.
There are similar establishments closer to where farang live and accordingly you will run into more farang when you go there, prices are higher and there's more silicone and English-speaking girls around (For exaple The Pent on Wireless Road, Sherbet and Piano in Ekkamai, St. Moritz in Sukhumvit 11.). Girls tend to be pushier there, too. Asking for cocktails and shit. Then you get the bill which is a collation of hand-written chits in Thai that nobody can reconcile at 2am. I went through 12 bottles at the Pent and never went back after that.
The really "Thai" places in the suburbs that are successful tend to have very customer friendly policies. Places I frequent you get a machine printed, itemized bill that is properly explained to you and girls cannot ask for anything off the menu. They drink your whiskey from your bottle and the mixers are free. That's it. Once we had a service issue and the bill was cut in half. Customer service at it's best!
Mai Ake is a very good choice. If you speak no Thai you are limited to a sales person (and girls) who speak some English which is another barrier to entry for some but no issue if you get referred.
They will be happy to sell you membership. Standard going rate is 10000 baht for 6 bottles of black as the smaller package. On "Party Nights" there's usually a bonus for signups (I. E. An extra bottle).
Value increases in the bigger packages but they tend to have 1 year expiration so you don't want to go overboard.
Another thing (Take it from the guy whose name is CoyoteLover) : Your sales person IS KEY to a good time. If they don't respect you, you will see B-grade girls and get no proper Intel on them. A good sales person will ensure you have a good time.
Rates for girls have a flag-fall to avoid dickheads coming in at 10pm on a Friday night, book the 20 hottest girls and leave just after midnight. It's usually 3 drinks for a coyote and 2 drinks for PR. A drink for your sales person is optional and shouldn't be forced upon you.
On a typical night we rock up at 10pm and have 3 girls and party until 3am. Bill will come to around 9000 baht. But this includes sheesha, top less model shows from external girls, live music, etc.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?Slightly different venue, same concept.
I like to eat food that is plentiful, cheap and good. I can go to a buffet to stuff my face all I want and I do it often. In LOS I eat on the street. That's my usual style of eating.
I once had a client take me to a very private dinner club. It served one meal a week to 12 people at a time. The food was prepared by a different chef each week. All chefs were culinary artists on the Iron Chef level. This was where they practiced and experimented before competitions. Each course was a work of visual art and had 4-5 bites of the most exquisite flavors you ever put in your mouth. It was served by the chef with full explanation of his techniques and goals. The wine was served and explained by the club owner, a wine merchant, and was perfectly matched to each course. I also travel the world and have certainly enjoyed fine dining, but this totally blew me away.
The price was $450 per person. It was a once in a lifetime experience and by far, the best food I've ever tasted. But I still had to stop at Mc Donalds on the way home to fill my belly.
I hope to get a chance to go to a top level G-club in BKK. It would be an experience that I would enjoy. But I would probably hit the streets near my hotel on the way home to grab a bite and a companion for the rest of the night.
So a big thank you to Sky Ryder and Fon Tok for some insights into the G-clubs. It does sound like a very interesting experience.
Pogo
I thought that was fair until she took off her clothes! Wow, talk about someone looking hot in clothes and ugly without! I shriveled up like a California raisin in the middle of the Mojave Desert and told her I do not feel comfortable.The best thing about cowboy bars, is seeing the entire package naked, getting to chat to the girl for a while to check for basic chemistry. Once I have decided she is too hot to resist, for price of 2 or 3 drinks, only then do I need make a decision. If I have doubts, I can call over some other girl to consider. I ignore girls that want to sit next to me uncalled for. I do the choosing as I am paying.
My criteria: pretty face, hot body preferably all natural, not too pushy or demanding or self-centered, friendly, lack of apparent acting, fun loving, good dancer, able to behave when needed. Notice I didn't mention price. The subject of how much rarely arises, probably because I am known at certain bars as fair to generous.
Fair enough. If you are too tired to put in effort this scene is not for you. I recently was out with colleagues who were looking for rub and' tug as picking up in Orchard Towers was too much effort for them. To each his own.Pita, it really has nothing to do with tired. After 12 years of residency in Thailand and spending time in various different "scenes," I just find most of the gals to be rather uninteresting. They have very little to add in the way of conversation. Most are not very well educated and can talk only about what they "like" or what they "want," which I find, well rather boring for lack of a better term. Now, if I could go into one of these clubs and find a gal that was well read, knew a little more about music than the latest Rhianna hit, had even a slight grasp of current events, and perhaps had read a book or two, then I would enjoy sitting with them and drinking. I have not found that to be the case even in the G-Clubs. As I said in a previous post, I am the customer, last thing want to do is have to romance a working girl. Kind of opposite I think. She is being paid so it should be her that is trying to sell me, not me trying to sell myself to her and then pay.
Kind of like going into Prada and begging to buy a bag.
sorry mate but g-clubs are as much about sex as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and a nyc strip club. are the reliable sure things? nope. are they part of the same adult entertainment industry as tilac? pretty much. do you need more game to score in a g-club than in annie's? substantially. men go there for the sexual thrill and excitement of these hot women. otherwise they woul be going someplace to play checkers.
so, they are priced above what you'd like to pay for the mileage you will get. fair enough. but to say they aren't part of the core of isg shows that you would be better of with a jar of lotion and some toilet paper.again, why should i need to have "game" if i am the one paying? i have been to these places and yes, the girls are nice looking, but really, i am still the customer. i was always amazed at the thai guys i saw wh%^*mancing these girls. but, to each his own. i would rather spend that money on a really nice meal and a bottle of wine and then head to mango and get the pipes cleaned! i mean, hey, after i've come a couple of times i can't get away from the gal fast enough. that is when her lacking intellect really shines through.
i view these gals as service providers. i would never consider one for a girlfriend. the mia noi thing is nothing but a headache, and that is what most g-club gals end up being. a thai guy would not take one home to meet mama.
but i do agree with you that discussions of these places do belong on the isg! most certainly. we cater to all tastes and there is room for all opinions and thoughts.
The best thing about cowboy bars, is seeing the entire package naked, getting to chat to the girl for a while to check for basic chemistry. Once I have decided she is too hot to resist, for price of 2 or 3 drinks, only then do I need make a decision. If I have doubts, I can call over some other girl to consider. I ignore girls that want to sit next to me uncalled for. I do the choosing as I am paying.
My criteria: pretty face, hot body preferably all natural, not too pushy or demanding or self-centered, friendly, lack of apparent acting, fun loving, good dancer, able to behave when needed. Notice I didn't mention price. The subject of how much rarely arises, probably because I am known at certain bars as fair to generous.I am sure you know the places better than me. I was there last week. I did not find one girl that meets your criteria in a Gogo. They all seemed bored, talking to each other, looking at themselves in the mirrors, texting while on stage, arrogant in attitude when I spoke to them. You mentioned good dancer? I never saw one. The SW's I found were better than those girls in the Gogo's. I think overall, they are a poor investment of time and money. But, to each their own.
You are right. Mai Ake is a large and very popular club. It has been consistently busy. I have membership there since 2009 and it's my second most favorite G-Club here.What's your first choice then?
10, 000 for 6 bottles is very reasonable compared to what one can spend in, say, RCA.
Do you party in a big room with lots of people or do you get your private room in those G-clubs?
What do you mean by "sales person"?
I looked at some Mai-ake videos on youtube and I wasn't impressed. It kind of looks like a gogo with a bigger stage and more clubby music. The girls don't look better than Baccara or Rainbow girls (in fact many look worse)... The dancing isn't better either...what gives?
You can argue that the girls were expensive. You would be wrong. How much does a lady drink on Soi Cowboy or Nana cost and how quickly do the good looking girls slam them back and ask for another one. Lets see. I was at Baccarat on Cowboy and each lady drink was 250 and the girl kept asking for one every ten minutes.To be fair though, you do not have to buy a drink to your girl in a gogo if you don't want to. I almost never do. I choose my girl, chat for a few minutes (telling her, if she asks, that we don't need to buy drinks as we'll leave shortly) and take her out (or not).
I did not find one girl that meets your criteria in a Gogo. They all seemed bored, talking to each other, looking at themselves in the mirrors, texting while on stage, arrogant in attitude when I spoke to them. You mentioned good dancer? I never saw one. The SW's I found were better than those girls in the Gogo's. I think overall, they are a poor investment of time and money. But, to each their own.Not my experience in gogos at all. If you are having fun, the girls have fun with you. You are right that they are mostly bored, but that's a good thing. Most clients are boring, if you are not, the girls will love you. They have to be there for 8 hours every day, they are dying to be entertained and have some sanook time.
Big Swingin Dave
01-30-12, 07:14
Slightly different venue, same concept.
I like to eat food that is plentiful, cheap and good. I can go to a buffet to stuff my face all I want and I do it often. In LOS I eat on the street. That's my usual style of eating.
I once had a client take me to a very private dinner club. It served one meal a week to 12 people at a time. The food was prepared by a different chef each week. All chefs were culinary artists on the Iron Chef level. This was where they practiced and experimented before competitions. Each course was a work of visual art and had 4-5 bites of the most exquisite flavors you ever put in your mouth. It was served by the chef with full explanation of his techniques and goals. The wine was served and explained by the club owner, a wine merchant, and was perfectly matched to each course. I also travel the world and have certainly enjoyed fine dining, but this totally blew me away.
The price was $450 per person. It was a once in a lifetime experience and by far, the best food I've ever tasted. But I still had to stop at Mc Donalds on the way home to fill my belly.
I hope to get a chance to go to a top level G-club in BKK. It would be an experience that I would enjoy. But I would probably hit the streets near my hotel on the way home to grab a bite and a companion for the rest of the night.
So a big thank you to Sky Ryder and Fon Tok for some insights into the G-clubs. It does sound like a very interesting experience.
PogoThank you Pogo for an excellent analogy of your food experience to SkyRyder's experience in a G-Club. I think its great that people share their experiences and SkyRyder's post is the real deal as I was the one that got invited by my customers to go the Maiake and because he and JustSeven was with me at the time when we were in a gogo-bar, I decided to bring them along (my FR on this place will be posted at a later time). Everyone is entitled to their opionion and point of view, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone goes to BKK to have a good time. This forum is to share information and experiences so for the many that do, thank you, and for the few, continue as you like because that is your POV.
BSD
I am sure you know the places better than me. I was there last week. I did not find one girl that meets your criteria in a Gogo. They all seemed bored, talking to each other, looking at themselves in the mirrors, texting while on stage, arrogant in attitude when I spoke to them. You mentioned good dancer? I never saw one. The SW's I found were better than those girls in the Gogo's. I think overall, they are a poor investment of time and money. But, to each their own.Thailand, especially Bangkok is so overpriced these days. They just sit around bored until the right desperate idiot comes and throws the approved amount at them.
. I was at Baccarat on Cowboy and each lady drink was 250 and the girl kept asking for one every ten minutes.
A lady drink cost 245 baht. This was the "sitting" fee for the girl to sit with you for 45 minutes (or so it was explained to me). So for 5 baht less than the lady drink I bought for the stunner in Baccarat, I had a cute fun girl that could speak perfect english partying with me.Excellent perspective. Just a correction on point of fact. Lady drinks in Baccara are 150 baht. Some bars do have "cocktails" for "coyotes", but all have normal lady drinks for between 90 baht (some of the small grubby bars) to 150 or so.
At G-Clubs if you've bought a membership a "drink" costs between 180 and 260 or so, and the sitting time varies between 30 minutes and 45 minutes or so. Different price depending on whether you're a member or not, non-member prices aren't really worthwhile.
Thailand, especially Bangkok is so overpriced these days. They just sit around bored until the right desperate idiot comes and throws the approved amount at them.And that is usually a Japanese man. Nothing against them, just saying.
Thailand, especially Bangkok is so overpriced these days. They just sit around bored until the right desperate idiot comes and throws the approved amount at them.Thailand is twice as expensive as it was when I moved here 12 years ago and it is not all the strength of the currency. Value for money is not great anymore. Many things are far more expensive than in the US or Europe."Local" things are still cheap, but if you want to live any semblance of a Western lifestyle you better have some bucks.
Just Seven
01-30-12, 13:31
And that is usually a Japanese man. Nothing against them, just saying.Haha blatant racial dig. Nothing against racists, just saying.
Not my experience in gogos at all. If you are having fun, the girls have fun with you. You are right that they are mostly bored, but that's a good thing. Most clients are boring, if you are not, the girls will love you. They have to be there for 8 hours every day, they are dying to be entertained and have some sanook time.Sounds like you know how to have fun. From the girls' perspective of having to make pus love with every scuzzie eddie, how can they be expected to warm up to whatever walks through the door. You only get what you play for.
Haha blatant racial dig. Nothing against racists, just saying.Well said. This thread has occasionnally some comments from frustrated "white" men who cannot afford what the "japs" as they call them can. They are being snubbed by the girls, so they vent their frustration on this board. With they 6 inches penis, but 1k bath and zero minute, they can't fuck. Well. Who cares, surely not the japanese, who usually just mind their own business, and could not give a damn if they pay a price that poor farangs can't afford. Ganbatte Nihon!
Just Seven
01-30-12, 15:38
Well said. This thread has occasionnally some comments from frustrated "white" men who cannot afford what the "japs" as they call them can. They are being snubbed by the girls, so they vent their frustration on this board. With they 6 inches penis, but 1k bath and zero minute, they can't fuck. Well. Who cares, surely not the japanese, who usually just mind their own business, and could not give a damn if they pay a price that poor farangs can't afford. Ganbatte Nihon!You know what they say about a fool and his money. They are soon parted. Sadly a fool and his opinion never seem to depart from each other!
What other people spend their money on has little to do with me as my issue is finding a girl I want to spend money on rather than the amount of money she actually wants :P.
That does not mean I don't frequently take a girl for a spin.
I do have to say, I enjoyed watching other races in the go go bars. They teach me new ways to play with my girls (koreans in AC played a game of complicated rock paper scissors for 20 pesos a round, totally fun!) (Chinese punters in KTVs have showed me countless games to play!) (*westerners have showed me how to stretch a buck to its breaking point * if you can't tell thats a joke, I put the stars there beforehand just to clue you in that this is supposed to be a joke!)
Oh ps, I am a white boy. Though apart from my one awesome night, I did not enjoy Bangkok as much as Angeles City. I have much to learn and will certainly give it another go.
I am still looking for a particular girl, which seems to be pretty hard to find (lots of tattoos, able to dance, etc etc, yes there are TWO at Baccara but had been fully booked when I was there!)
And that is usually a Japanese man. Nothing against them, just saying.Not to forget the Americans, because everything is so dirt cheap compared to back home... I am thinking to go to the US and spend double for everything they ask, just because I can afford it.
Fast Eddie 48
01-30-12, 17:23
Thailand is twice as expensive as it was when I moved here 12 years ago and it is not all the strength of the currency. Value for money is not great anymore. Many things are far more expensive than in the US or Europe."Local" things are still cheap, but if you want to live any semblance of a Western lifestyle you better have some bucks.To Goatscrot
Yes Bangkok is expensive now days I agree is more than double form 12 yr ago but other country is the same some are more than double like Angeles city PI and Phnom penh Cambodia cost of Mongering
Is going up fast, I am in Pattaya now was in Bangkok 2 days ago is not easy to find good quality ST for under 1000 bht anymore.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
01-30-12, 17:24
Thank you Pogo for an excellent analogy of your food experience to SkyRyder's experience in a G-Club. I think its great that people share their experiences and SkyRyder's post is the real deal as I was the one that got invited by my customers to go the Maiake and because he and JustSeven was with me at the time when we were in a gogo-bar, I decided to bring them along (my FR on this place will be posted at a later time). Everyone is entitled to their opionion and point of view, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone goes to BKK to have a good time. This forum is to share information and experiences so for the many that do, thank you, and for the few, continue as you like because that is your POV.
BSDI've gone to Thailand quite a few times. Especially in the past as I had a bit of business there at one time.
I've gone to just about all the usual haunts for gentlemanly pursuits (including some of these G-clubs) and I've enjoyed each and every place for its own particular "entertainment" value.
And for the life of me I can NOT understand why anyone would begrudge Skyrider reporting on his night at a G-club.
I mean. Its different strokes for different folks, Right? And just so long as it contributes to the body knowledge here, what's the big deal?
I know Sky rider personally and I can vouch that he's no snot faced li'l newbie to the mongering world.
What's with the unprovoked attack?
I really don't get it.
SEAJ
Member #4698
01-30-12, 18:36
Not to forget the Americans, because everything is so dirt cheap compared to back home. I am thinking to go to the US and spend double for everything they ask, just because I can afford it.No need to spend double, the US price is comparably cheap so foreigners upgrade or buy more at whatever price is asked. This is what is happening in the South Florida Real Estate Market. The big buyers are foreign nationals. Brazilians, Venezuelans, Peruvians, and Chinese are paying up and buying multi million homes and condos. They seem to be the only ones in buy mode. Why? Primarily because they think it is cheap and also they consider the US still a good place to park their money. Most of these buyers pay cash! They don't pay double, they don't have to. They just pay the asking price which is too high for many Americans, but not too high for the foreign nationals. As a result, the Miami market is turning. On the table in downtown Miami is a multi 100 million dollar construction project to create a huge super deluxe gambling casino complex proposed and completely financed by a Malaysian firm. I hope they get the required government approval. This could make Miami the next Macau. Miami saunas, that should be good.
To Goatscrot
Yes Bangkok is expensive now days I agree is more than double form 12 yr ago but other country is the same some are more than double like Angeles city PI and Phnom penh Cambodia cost of Mongering
Is going up fast, I am in Pattaya now was in Bangkok 2 days ago is not easy to find good quality ST for under 1000 bht anymore.
Fast Eddie 48More and more men = higher and higher prices. Just supply and demand and it shows just how bad women are back in Farangland!
Haha blatant racial dig. Nothing against racists, just saying.You assume that because you obviously have never been to the Bangkok Gogo's. Unlike you, I was in Baccara, Shark's, etc. about a week ago. It is 80-90% Japanese now and they are paying the high prices for poor service. So take your racist rants someplace else.
Just Seven
01-30-12, 22:31
You assume that because you obviously have never been to the Bangkok Gogo's. Unlike you, I was in Baccara, Shark's, etc. about a week ago. It is 80-90% Japanese now and they are paying the high prices for poor service. So take your racist rants someplace else.Obviously I have never been there. Except for last week, when I was there. In Baccara. And a bunch of other GoGos on Cowboy and Nana. Nice try though! I am sure you are highly educated. But math can be pretty hard sometimes, specially those pesky fractions and percents! If 80-90% of the patrons are Japanese. That would mean if 10 people are in the establishment. 8 or 9 of them are Japanese. So that means when I walked into Baccara with 4 of my friends at LEAST THIRTY TWO Japanese had to follow me there! Now something a little more plausible (I am an optimist) , perhaps 80-90% of the clientele are Asian. You do know the difference between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Malaysian right? Of course you do!
So to continue. What is poor service? How do you know they are receiving poor service? Whats a high price? Who determines what a high price is? Please inform me what poor service is and what a high price is so that I can make sure to get good service at a low price. (I could offer you examples of buying power etc etc but it would be like explaining economics to a racist) oh wait!
Member #4698
01-31-12, 00:01
I happen to like Baccara. IMHO, just my opinion, it is the best bar on Cowboy. The reason is simple; they have the largest and best selection of girls. Now don't get me wrong, what I am saying is not that much. On any given night I am happy if I spot 3, 4 or 5 seriously cute girls there. That is all. We can talk about the decline of Go Go talent on Cowboy over the last decade another time.
So for todays' subject; I admit I like Baccara and I am a frequent customer when I am in town. The place has a good mix of clientele, the majority of which is Asian, but there are plenty of western guys too. I am always comfortable hunting in Baccara. The Asians don't bother me one bit. They seem worthy competition if you want to look at it that way or just fellow punters if you want to see it another way. I have seen very little bad behavior or boorishness from them. And everybody seems to get on fine.
A little personal anecdote:
I was in Baccara one night last year and spotted a little cutie dancing on stage. I smiled at her and she smiled back so I gestured that she should join me at my table after her dance set. She came over and sat close. We talked, I bought her a drink, and we got friendly if you know what I mean. Long story short, I bar fined her, paid the bill and left a small tip which did not go unnoticed or unappreciated by the waitress. I took my girl back to the Admiral Premier. I had one of their large suites. We sat down in the living room, I mixed us both a vodka and orange juice, and we watched some Jennifer Aniston movie. Now I am not much interested in J. A, but my Thai girl's take on the American romantic comedy and the plight of the heroine was interesting and funny. We started making out on the couch and soon adjourned to the bathroom for soapy shower. I played with her small conical breasts while she washed my dick. Then we moved on to the bed for some BBBJ and very nice sex in multiple positions. When it was over we kissed and cuddled for a while before we both got dressed and went back to the living room. I took some photos and we talked some more. I told her I liked her a lot and had a real nice time getting to know her. She gave me her cell number. She told me she was going to school to study computers. I encouraged her even though I took everything she said with a grain of salt. As we walked lovey dovey, hand in hand back to Cowboy and Baccara, I told her I would like to see her again tomorrow night. She said she would look forward to it. We set the time for our rendezvous at around 8:30. I took her back to Baccara. It was around 11 by that time. We got a booth and I ordered some drinks for us. My girl never wandered or left me. Over the next 90 minutes, a few of her friends came by and I offered them drinks too. I even bought a drink for the waitress. Everybody was having a good time. Now I am no newbie. I knew exactly what I was doing. I was out having a great time in Bangkok with a very cute little 21 year old girl. I was also very much aware that everything I did reflected positively on me and my girl. The waitress's and the other girls notice it all. The girls talk shop amongst themselves. Yada, yada, yada. Around 12:30, I decided to call it a night. I settled the bar tab which was not too much and tipped the waitress again. My girl decided to call it a night as well and I walked her out to Soi 23 where I took a left turn and she got on a motorcycle taxi. Before we parted she asked again if I was coming by Baccara tomorrow night. I said, for sure and she kissed me goodbye.
The next day I did the usual BKK stuff and thought about whether I was really going to keep my Go Go date or get laid at a massage parlor instead. I am usually a butterfly, but I really liked the girl. She had a very cute face, a great spinner body, and a demure personality so I decided to see her again. Here comes the point of this story. I arrived a little late for our date. It must have been around 9pm. Baccara was going strong with a full house. The clientele were mostly Asian, but who gives a shit. As soon as I walked in, the waitress from last night recognized me and smiled. Somehow she found a booth for me and I sat down. I saw my girl a few tables down, but she was sitting with a Korean guy. The waitress asked me if everything was OK. I said sure and ordered a drink. And everything was ok. I was late and my girl who is a working girl was with another customer. I didn't give a damn. There are lots of fish in the Baccara sea. My girl saw me and gave me a knowing nod. I smiled back at her, but I began to watch the girls on stage. In less than 5 minutes, the Korean guy got up, paid for his drinks, and walked out of the bar with a slight look of dissatisfaction on his face. My little girl came bouncing over and through her arms around me. We said our Hello, 's how are you's, she said she was happy to see me and we started making out. The waitress brought my beer and smiled at us. Then we repeated the last night all over again and I had a another great night in BKK.
I don't know what the moral of this story is except maybe 1. Baccara is still a pretty damn good bar. 2. If you know how to play the game everything falls into place. 3. Don't worry about what the other guy is doing, focus on the prize, the pussy. 4. Treat your girls nice and lastly, if you can't afford to play in this playground or just don't like it for some reason, that's ok, but don't knock others who do like it here and are willing to pay to play here. BKK has something for everybody. Some venues I like a lot and some places I don't bother with at all. Up to you where you want to go.
Great report Natty. Like you said, mostly Asian (Japanese from my observation) customers in those places nowadays. They really love the Gogo's. I believe they do have a tendency to overpay for the services they get. But, they have the money so be it.
Great post Natty. I like Baccara too.
On the topic of overpaying in Gogos. How much do you guys pay then? I'll admit I don't negotiate. I go to the more expensive bars (Rainbow, Bacarra) and I pay 2000 ST (if the service is good). How much do you guys pay? Tell us what you get away with, and in which bars. Do you have a strategy eg offer less if you are a regular, or if it's late and a quiet day?
I happen to like Baccara. IMHO, just my opinion, it is the best bar on Cowboy. The reason is simple; they have the largest and best selection of girls. Now don't get me wrong, what I am saying is not that much.
I don't know what the moral of this story is except maybe 1. Baccara is still a pretty damn good bar. 2. If you know how to play the game everything falls into place. 3. Don't worry about what the other guy is doing, focus on the prize, the pussy. 4. Treat your girls nice and lastly, if you can't afford to play in this playground or just don't like it for some reason, that's ok, but don't knock others who do like it here and are willing to pay to play here. BKK has something for everybody. Some venues I like a lot and some places I don't bother with at all. Up to you where you want to go.Excellent post!
Wolvenvacht
01-31-12, 07:54
On the topic of overpaying in Gogos. How much do you guys pay then? I'll admit I don't negotiate. I go to the more expensive bars (Rainbow, Bacarra) and I pay 2000 ST (if the service is good). How much do you guys pay? Tell us what you get away with, and in which bars. Do you have a strategy eg offer less if you are a regular, or if it's late and a quiet day?3000 Baht LT in Suzie Wong, last December. Last June I got a very hot spinner from Suzie Wong for less than 2000 baht LT (tip included, she was that good) , but then it was after 10PM and business was slow.
3000 Baht LT in Suzie Wong, last December. Last June I got a very hot spinner from Suzie Wong for less than 2000 baht LT (tip included, she was that good) , but then it was after 10PM and business was slow.I have until last year always gotten LT for 2000 Baht. Even in Rainbow. Not sure if it still can be had. I am not going to places where they charge 150+ baht for a beer. That is a day's salary for some locals.
On the topic of overpaying in Gogos. How much do you guys pay then? I'll admit I don't negotiate. I go to the more expensive bars (Rainbow, Bacarra) and I pay 2000 ST (if the service is good). How much do you guys pay? Tell us what you get away with, and in which bars. Do you have a strategy eg offer less if you are a regular, or if it's late and a quiet day?No strategy. I just ask "1500 OK?", and 90+% of the time the answer is "OK". Of course I only ask that when I'm already pretty confident that it's the right girl.
I have until last year always gotten LT for 2000 Baht. Even in Rainbow. Not sure if it still can be had. I am not going to places where they charge 150+ baht for a beer. That is a day's salary for some locals.I won't pay that for a beer either. For ST with a gogo gal or FL, it is 1000 baht max for me. BUT at an oily I have no problem dishing out 2100 baht for an hour and a half of GREAT service.
@Rocksof: we are talking 1500 ST correct? I've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. But let's specify the bars as well. I've never tried negotiating in the Rainbows although I'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. In Mandarin, Erotica and the second-tier bars, I have and it worked. Where did you get your 1500 ST and when?
For 1000 ST or 2000 LT as claimed by Goatscrot and Tiger 888 respectively, I would love to know how they do it as that's basically half of the asking rate. I don't question it's doable, just would like to know more about which bars this has worked in, how much "nos" they get vs "yes", etc.
For all the guys who say some of us overpay, this is the time to tell us how it's done ;) If I'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here...
One Tree Hill
01-31-12, 10:26
@Rocksof: we are talking 1500 ST correct? I've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. But let's specify the bars as well. I've never tried negotiating in the Rainbows although I'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. In Mandarin, Erotica and the second-tier bars, I have and it worked. Where did you get your 1500 ST and when?
For 1000 ST or 2000 LT as claimed by Goatscrot and Tiger 888 respectively, I would love to know how they do it as that's basically half of the asking rate. I don't question it's doable, just would like to know more about which bars this has worked in, how much "nos" they get vs "yes", etc.
For all the guys who say some of us overpay, this is the time to tell us how it's done. If I'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here.Its quite simple. Don't ask "how much? Make an offer to her. Otherwise the baseline for negotiation is set by her and not you.
Explain "I pay B1200 for short time" or something like that. Smile when you say it and expect that she will accept. If she.
Doesn't want that price she may say "B2000" and you can counter and say "I can only pay B1500". If she does not agree then.
Pleasantly say "sorry too much for me. Thank you".
Smile and be friendly the whole time and if it goes sour, be polite and thank her anyways. Then find one who will accept.
Tony Hoeprano
01-31-12, 10:36
I don't think the stunners will do anything less than 4k LT and 2K ST. In fact, some girls will not do LT when they can do ST 5-6 times per night. That's why its best to go early on and not be the last in line, smelling some dude's funk lol
@Rocksof: we are talking 1500 ST correct? I've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. But let's specify the bars as well. I've never tried negotiating in the Rainbows although I'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. In Mandarin, Erotica and the second-tier bars, I have and it worked. Where did you get your 1500 ST and when?Bars where I've gotten it that I can remember by name are Mandarin & Erotica at Nana, and at Fanny's, Long Gun & Rawhide at Cowboy. This isn't at any particular time of the evening, not especially late. I've had 2000 LT at Afterschool and Long Gun or Rawhide (I always mix them up). I've also been offered 1000 ST at Long Gun or Rawhide, forget which. Fanny's has some rugged girls, but they also sometimes have cuties. Last time I was in Silver Star soi 7 in Pattaya, after 1AM, I was offered 1000 LT, as reported.
Hotman 666
01-31-12, 14:42
BKK has something for everybody. Some venues I like a lot and some places I don't bother with at all. Up to you where you want to go.Natty Bumpo,
You are So, So right! There really is "Something for EVERYONE" in BKK!
Whether you like Young or old, Dark skinned or light, Slim or chunky then just look around and you will be a "happy bunny" in BKK."
Even if you fancy a change from the local Asian girls there are opportunities to find Africans, Russians and even the occasional European girl to "ring the changes!"
I have NEVER been disappointed during my trips there!
I would go as far as to say that, in MY opinion, if you can not find a GREAT time in BKK than you will not have a good time ANYWHERE!
Enjoy (I do.)
Hotman
Was in BKK the first part of December and was looking at the talent on Soi Cowboy. A few years ago I had stopped in at After School and while there had that sudden urge. So I had some girls join me in naughty boy corner and fix that urge. This time I went in to have a drink and see what was going on. Not much happening and the girls didn't seem interested in going to the corner for with anyone in there. After 30 minutes or so I left and found a companion for the night.
My question, has After School dropped the corner activities? There were some girls working but it was not over crowded with them.
@rocksof: we are talking 1500 st correct? i've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. but let's specify the bars as well. i've never tried negotiating in the rainbows although i'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. in mandarin, erotica and the second-tier bars, i have and it worked. where did you get your 1500 st and when?
for 1000 st or 2000 lt as claimed by goatscrot and tiger 888 respectively, i would love to know how they do it as that's basically half of the asking rate. i don't question it's doable, just would like to know more about which bars this has worked in, how much "nos" they get vs "yes", etc.
for all the guys who say some of us overpay, this is the time to tell us how it's done. if i'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here.chill, i don't take gogo girls as a rule (i have always preferred fls, although now i am an oily guy). i speak pretty good thai, and that turns off quite a few of them, but when you are able to joke with them in their language it wins points. i normally talk a bit nasty with them in thai and those that respond can be good to go. those that are offended, well, i move on. i have also lived here for 12 years and have been around the bars (especially cowboy) on quite a few evenings over the last decade. i am quite direct with girls about what i pay and what i expect in return. while looks are important, so is performance. if a gal won't accept my offer or my terms, i simply move on. there is always tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon at the oilies, so if a gal is not interested, mai pen rai! the longer i am here the less i want to interact with bar girls. i find them to be quite boring same song and dance, so for me it is about great service and then getting out of there. i am not looking for a date or a companion. i want a great session. sweet girls are a turn off for me. i like gals with dirty minds who actually like the act of sex and have just happened to find out they can make money doing it. that is why i prefer fls. they normally don't make promises they don't intend to keep.
beautiful thing about thermae in years past (not now) is that all the gals would exchange stories about the regular guys. you would go with a gal and she would know what you liked and would even comment on your size before she saw you naked. kind of a fun little [CodeWord130] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130) place back in the day.
i fully understand that those on holiday have a far different agenda than mine. bkk affords many different things to different people and that is what is great about it. residents have an advantage, and that is time.
If I'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here.We are desperately missing this! LOL
I speak pretty good Thai, and that turns off quite a few of them, but when you are able to joke with them in their language it wins points. I normally talk a bit nasty with them in Thai and those that respond can be good to go. Those that are offended, well, I move on.Yes, speaking ugly Thai will turn off most classier type of girls. Talking nasty / dirty should be confined to English. Non-Thais just don't understand how bad impolite Thai can sound. I was shocked to hear the bar-girl say she was "ngian" as this would be a forbidden word for many. So guys should be very careful what words are used till know the girl better.
Tony Hoeprano
02-01-12, 03:13
While on the subject of the high end g-club girls, I'd like to visit the other end of the spectrum, the girls who service the common, blue collar Thai man. For example, where do the construction workers, taxi drivers, fishermen, and garbage collectors go for p4p fun? I think many cheap charlies or hard core mongers would like to know where this kind of p4p can be found. Not saying anyone would confine themselves to this, but it would be an interesting option to have, when other options are exhausted or just want a change of scenery.
Yes, speaking ugly Thai will turn off most classier type of girls. Talking nasty / dirty should be confined to English. Non-Thais just don't understand how bad impolite Thai can sound. I was shocked to hear the bar-girl say she was "ngian" as this would be a forbidden word for many. So guys should be very careful what words are used till know the girl better.Syz, Same Same in the West. Some folks are easily offended. I want a working girl that has no issues with being nasty, that is why I hit them with "ngian" and "Pom Yaak Yet" pretty quickly, with a sheepish smile on my face. If they laugh, then I have found a good sport, if they scowl and leave, well. The test has proved its point.
These are "bar girls," they have had quite a few see*ks in them. Having an issue about being naughty is a flaw for one in that occupation.
Now of course in any other setting I watch my Ps and Qs.
Fast Eddie 48
02-01-12, 05:59
I have until last year always gotten LT for 2000 Baht. Even in Rainbow. Not sure if it still can be had. I am not going to places where they charge 150+ baht for a beer. That is a day's salary for some locals.To Tiger 888.
I was at Rainbow 4 2 days ago they want 2000 st and 3000 LT the best looking one will not budge, some will go down to 2500 LT and barfine is now 600 Bht
Bangkok is no bargin anymore but it is still much cheaper than the US and HK.
Fast Eddie 48
Goatscrot, good post and good points!
In fact, some girls will not do LT when they can do ST 5-6 times per night.I think the 5 or 6 times a night is a myth. Often I take a stunner out and I'm her first client of the night at 11-12 PM (on weekdays). Weekend nights get busier but even then I doubt most do more than 2 or 3 clients per night. Correct me if I am wrong on this.
Wolvenvacht
02-01-12, 08:13
goatscrot, good post and good points!
i think the 5 or 6 times a night is a myth. often i take a stunner out and i'm her first client of the night at 11-12 pm (on weekdays). weekend nights get busier but even then i doubt most do more than 2 or 3 clients per night. correct me if i am wrong on this.let's look into it more scientifically.
say the agogos really start around 8pm. before that time not much moves. in soi cowboy, you see the girls still eating outside of their bars.
say also that after 2 am, not much will happen too, especially on a weekday.
that leaves 6 hours of effective working time.
how long do you think an average st will take? first the girl has to chat up her customer, drink her ladydrink, negotiate price & conditions, that will easily take half an hour (at least). then when the deal is made, she goes and change into her normal clothes and joins her man to go to his hotel: again all this can easily take another 20 minutes to half an hour. checking in, going to the room, cuddle, hug & kiss a bit, have a drink, showering (most want to shower separately) , peeling her out of her towel: if you can do that in 15 minutes you have rushed it, more likely again 20 minutes to half an hour.
before you can start making love to her, she is perhaps already "working" one and a half hour. performing her services will vary wildly i guess, but on the average let's use a figure of about 45 minutes. then shower again, get dressed and go back to the agogo. perhaps she has a bite of food before going back "on duty".
easily a short time "one pop" can take her off line for up to 3 hours. if she can do 2 st clients a night, every night, she is probably considered one of the top performers in her bar.
and this tallies well when you compare the st and lt prices: about 2000 st and 3000 lt. if the girls would do an average of 3 sts a night then the lt price should be much more. i think most are happy if they can do one st a night and i would not be surprised that many go home without having done any st at all.
actually, a girl i took from suzie wong last december (3000 baht. lt) told me her main income is from ladydrinks. and a lt makes her miss most of that income. to her that explained the difference between st and lt prices and this confirmed my opinion that most girls do at most perhaps one st a night and perhaps not even every night.
of course, the above is a typical "agogo" scenario. it would be totally different in a pattaya "soi 6" bar with in-house st rooms, where you can be in-and-out in 30 minutes.
Yes Wolvenvacht, I also did the same thinking re:time and reached similar conclusions :)
Even if a girl was taken by a costumer immediately on coming to the bar and immediately again each time she comes back from a ST, she wouldn't have time to do this more than 2 or 3 times. And as we all know, even beautiful girls can dance a few rounds before getting called by a customer, if they get called at all. Then most costumers take 30 minutes or more before they barfine.
I think most are happy if they can do one ST a night and I would not be surprised that many go home without having done any ST at all.Yes that's accurate for gogos in my experience. Less so in soapies where they get more costumers; almost all customers who get in partake; customers decide faster and do the deed faster. I have a good friend working in a high-end soapie, she knows when she goes to work that she will get at least a customer and probably more. But she only works 2 or 3 days a week.
Friar Tuck
02-01-12, 09:36
While on the subject of the high end g-club girls, I'd like to visit the other end of the spectrum, the girls who service the common, blue collar Thai man. For example, where do the construction workers, taxi drivers, fishermen, and garbage collectors go for p4p fun? I think many cheap charlies or hard core mongers would like to know where this kind of p4p can be found. Not saying anyone would confine themselves to this, but it would be an interesting option to have, when other options are exhausted or just want a change of scenery.Hi Tony,
Befriend a taxi driver and he will show you a whole new world. Not one I would like to live in however. Girls who primarily service Thai's provide a very basic service, that is what Thai's are looking for. A GFE is not generally on offer, nor is it deemed necessary. Sure the price is low, short time really is short time! The girls service an amazing number of clients per day. We are talking low end here, not top end oilies.
I get a taxi from the airport to Sukhumvit Soi 19 frequently. The route goes past two separate groups of street walkers waiting for mainly Thai customers, my driver always slows down to walking pace and chats to them through the open passenger window, like the rest of us, he seeks the perfect outlet. He never pays more than 400 short time and always uses the back seat! This area, he says, is quite expensive but the girls are pretty and young. He lives out at Rangsit and has been with some truly awful girls, cheap though. He can get laid for what I spend on breakfast.
We seek, I hope, performance over price, but our fragile egos demand a GFE. Thai's laugh at this and think us weak. From Patpong to Cowboy and all points between, there are some treasures to be found still, no point in worrying about prices too much, worry about maximising enjoyment!
Tuck
Let's look into it more scientifically. (snip)
Actually, a girl I took from Suzie Wong last December (3000 baht. LT) told me her main income is from ladydrinks. And a LT makes her miss most of that income. To her that explained the difference between ST and LT prices and this confirmed my opinion that most girls do at most perhaps one ST a night and perhaps not even every night.Or, less scientifically.
Some of them hate spending any more time with a customer than the absolutely have to. And, they just want to get home to eat, and sleep with their boyfriend, or girlfriend.
Crocodilexp
02-01-12, 11:50
I'd like to visit the other end of the spectrum, the girls who service the common, blue collar Thai man. For example, where do the construction workers, taxi drivers, fishermen, and garbage collectors go for p4p fun? I think many cheap charlies or hard core mongers would like to know where this kind of p4p can be found.Two places for you to check out.
1) Area south Khao San Road, roughly bounded by Ratchadamnoen Klang, Tanao, Bunsiri and Atsadang roads. Smelly and dirty area, lots of trash and homeless people around. This is the lowest of the low, many streetwalkers at various times of day or night 300-500 baht. They may ask for more when they see a white face, but if you bargain most go for the low price. Many ST hotels there don't like Farang, but one or two are OK (100 baht extra for the hotel). http://g.co/maps/q3x77
2) Yaowarat / Maitri Chit traffic circle area, walking route as suggested on the map: http://g.co/maps/g6b2f Slightly cleaner than the first area, but still way down low. Streetwalkers from 300-700 baht, some real lookers near the upper end of the range, but universally crappy service. Several mainland Chinese girls mixed in, service usually worse than the worst Thai.
Warning: You'll only have fun in these areas if you enjoy slums and the thrill of the search. Don't try this for service quality or convenience.
GentleBoner
02-01-12, 13:40
A gogo girl offered me 1000 ST before. Meaning I didn't have to negotiate. It was her asking price.
She wasn't ugly or fat, cute and late 20s, but it was the low season and it wasn't one of the more popular gogos, so she likely just needed some money.
Her sales tactic worked because I said yes and had quite a nice time with her.
Other than that, I pay 1500 ST every time. Have only had a couple young pretty snotty girls refuse it. Everyone else has accepted no problem.
Goatscrot, good post and good points!
I think the 5 or 6 times a night is a myth. Often I take a stunner out and I'm her first client of the night at 11-12 PM (on weekdays). Weekend nights get busier but even then I doubt most do more than 2 or 3 clients per night. Correct me if I am wrong on this.I think you're right. Maybe at most 3 or 4 per nite if they are really hot and start early in the evening.
When I first went to Thailand many years ago, a friend recommended massage parlors. He said the girls were cleaner than bar girls, and MP girls did fewer guys per day (or night). I went to the Atami Massage parlor in Bangkok one afternoon (Atami is no longer around). I asked the girl how many guys she had done that day, and she told me she had already done 4 or 5. So it's the opposite of what I had heard, the MP girls do way more guys than the bar girls.
By the way, I went to the Atami twice on that vacation, my first to Thailand. I had fantastic times, better than I had with bar girls. But I never went back to a Massage Parlor again. Does that make sense?
My reason is this: I can talk to the bar girls for a while and get to know them before taking them, which I can't do with A MP girl. Also, I can take the bar girl back to my hotel, which I prefer.
But I should try a MP again, since I had such a great time there.
To Tiger 888.
I was at Rainbow 4 2 days ago they want 2000 st and 3000 LT the best looking one will not budge, some will go down to 2500 LT and barfine is now 600 Bht
Bangkok is no bargin anymore but it is still much cheaper than the US and HK.
Fast Eddie 48I have seen they ask 180 for beers on Cowboy. That translates into 45 HK$. I prefer to stay in Hong Kong, save the hotel money and spend 4000 Baht for the girl LT (On Sundays even for free sometimes). In HK they need to ask this kind of money because their overheads are quite high. In Bangkok that is a total ripoff and completely unreasonable.
Tony Hoeprano
02-02-12, 07:49
If you don't like the prices of beers in the gogos, just buy one outside for cheap and bring it in with you. Somewhat cheap-charliesque though haha
Wolvenvacht
02-02-12, 08:29
If you don't like the prices of beers in the gogos, just buy one outside for cheap and bring it in with you. Somewhat cheap-charliesque though hahaNo doubt you will thus become the favourite of all the agogo-girls. They will apreciate someone who knows how to be frugal and save his money to pay their barfine, ST / LT fees, tips and taxi-money.
Tony Hoeprano
02-02-12, 08:41
Your assessment seems closer to the truth than most,
Working bar is lucrative for the very few. There is a reason why the minimum quota thing is like 6 a month, most girls are just not attractive enough to warrant more than the occasional barfine.They might only get the occasional barfine, but something tells me they have a few sponsors who provide them with more than just rent money, how else can they afford their new shiny iphones? I see many farang holding hands with below average looking gals
I see many farang holding hands with below average looking galsTake notes. These may be the kind in your budget range.
I have seen they ask 180 for beers on Cowboy. That translates into 45 HK$. I prefer to stay in Hong Kong, save the hotel money and spend 4000 Baht for the girl LT (On Sundays even for free sometimes). In HK they need to ask this kind of money because their overheads are quite high. In Bangkok that is a total ripoff and completely unreasonable.Smart man! If I would come to Thailand now for the first time, there is no way I would decide to move here.
No doubt you will thus become the favourite of all the agogo-girls. They will apreciate someone who knows how to be frugal and save his money to pay their barfine, ST / LT fees, tips and taxi-money.Not to mention the fact that the bouncers would bounce him out the door with his store bought brew before he found a seat in the bar.
Tony Hoeprano
02-02-12, 12:35
Not to mention the fact that the bouncers would bounce him out the door with his store bought brew before he found a seat in the bar.Not true, the bouncers / touts want you inside the bar regardless, its not like going into a strip joint in the United States where you pay mandatory entry fee and $10 for a glass of watered down pepsi. I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer, he said no worry sir! And allowed me entry where I enjoyed another view of the Issan Shuffle without being hounded to order a drinkie
They might only get the occasional barfine, but something tells me they have a few sponsors who provide them with more than just rent money, how else can they afford their new shiny iphones? I see many farang holding hands with below average looking galsAmazing, isn't it?
LittleBigMan
02-03-12, 02:02
Not true, the bouncers / touts want you inside the bar regardless, its not like going into a strip joint in the United States where you pay mandatory entry fee and $10 for a glass of watered down pepsi. I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer, he said no worry sir! And allowed me entry where I enjoyed another view of the Issan Shuffle without being hounded to order a drinkieDaddy07, would be 100% correct if you insisted to take the beer into the go-go! The bouncer handle it correctly as you indicated yourself " I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer " and he responded kindly " no worry sir " we all know what would have happened if you didn't.
LBM
Tony Hoeprano
02-03-12, 02:58
Daddy07, would be 100% correct if you insisted to take the beer into the go-go! The bouncer handle it correctly as you indicated yourself " I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer " and he responded kindly " no worry sir " we all know what would have happened if you didn't.
LBMI didn't make myself clear, he allowed me inside the bar with my half empty beer bottle (or half full for you positive fellows). Anyways, i'm done with the subject
Hi everyone.
Any idea whether Somerset Lakepoint Sukhumvit or Tower Club at Lebua are girl friendly? We are looking for a 3 bedroom apartment because we are 4. 5 guys traveling together.
MM
Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
Thanks
Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
ThanksMost hotels have a lineup of girls for you to choose from when you check in. HAHA, sure.
My suggestion is that you contact one of the escort companies and have a girl meet you at the hotel. A limited number of massage shops may do it also. They will ask you to call when you land so the girl can be on her way.
It will cost you though.
For the future during your trip, get some girls numbers for future contact. I have ones now that either meet me at the airport, or have cars to drive me to hotel.
Hi everyone.
Any idea whether Somerset Lakepoint Sukhumvit or Tower Club at Lebua are girl friendly? We are looking for a 3 bedroom apartment because we are 4. 5 guys traveling together.
MMFour-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment. Are you, by any chance, hindus.
Crazy4Thai
02-04-12, 01:48
I don't believe this. Can someone confirm this or not. And also how do girls who don't make money selling sexx survive? A bar can't just keep letting thse who don't produce take up space.The girls make money from drinks, sometimes a drink that the customer did not even order. The girls do get barfined. The girls do get sponsors. As for employees taking up space who do not produce, this is the norm in Thailand and not limited to the bars. As for sponsors, which in my personal opinion is the biggest motivator for the women to enter the trade, here is my best example that I know of first hand.
The woman is now 49. She does not and never did work bar. She runs a t-shirt shop in Pattaya. She is on her 5th sponsor since I've known her for 8 years. She's perhaps a 3 in looks and openly a conniving witch in personality. Believe what you want but life here is not the norm you might think it is.
C4T.
PS. I hope this doesn't belong in the General Thread!
I don't believe this. Can someone confirm this or not. And also how do girls who don't make money selling sexx survive? A bar can't just keep letting thse who don't produce take up space.I am sure you see that not all of the girls in the bars are lookers. Just like in any country, the bars actually need employees who work and service customers. Most of it is about P4P, but not all of it is. Some of the girls actually have jobs as servers and that is it. They are hard workers and may never get Bar fined, but have a purpose as hard working employees at the establishment. They get a salary and tips and that is it.
Wolvenvacht
02-04-12, 10:05
Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment.I wonder which half they brought with them. Top or bottom half?
Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
ThanksI would try Giotto from Livingston Lodge.
I think he has his own thread.
Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment. Are you, by any chance, hindus.Not really, just denizens of Malibu.
That was a typo. Now we are 6 and looking for 2 3 bedroom apartments. How are the two hotels I mentioned? I think the Lebua is not as well located for mongering as the Somerset Sukhumvit, but better placed for gastronomic adventures. After all, one has to eat also.
Definitely bottom half BTW.
MM
Weirdest thing I've seen in a while. Sign outside a bar in a small lane next to beergarden.
"Due to unacceptable behaviour blacks will no longer be served here."
Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
ThanksIf you have no other options, book the Nana Hotel, (or more upscale the Landmark or JW Marriott) and in the car park around 2am there will be a lot girls coming from work and looking for a customer. Its just a suggestion. Not sure if its right for you.
Cheers
AmericanThief
02-04-12, 12:59
Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
ThanksThis doesn't exist in Bangkok. Can you please tell me where you have received this kind of service? Please include country, city and hotel names. I'd like to know where I can travel and have a selection of girls at the reception area of a hotel at 2am.
Thanks for replying in advance because I'm absolutely sure you will answer me with complete and comprehensive detail, won't you?
Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment. Are you, by any chance, hindus.Just a note about the editor here on the forum.
When you want to write "4 to 5" guys using a 'dash', the editor replaces the dash with period so it looks like 4 and one half guys.
This doesn't exist in Bangkok. Can you please tell me where you have received this kind of service? Please include country, city and hotel names. I'd like to know where I can travel and have a selection of girls at the reception area of a hotel at 2am.
Thanks for replying in advance because I'm absolutely sure you will answer me with complete and comprehensive detail, won't you?Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.
Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.I can confirm that intel, although at 2am, there may not be many left to choose from, as most will have been 'taken'.
Wolvenvacht
02-04-12, 16:39
If you have no other options, book the Nana Hotel, (or more upscale the Landmark or JW Marriott) and in the car park around 2am there will be a lot girls coming from work and looking for a customer. Its just a suggestion. Not sure if its right for you.
CheersBeing in the middle of the action is the only positive point of Nana Hotel.
Traveler1234
02-04-12, 17:00
Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.Giotto can probably arrange to have someone wait for room service but I doubt the entire stable will stay until 2 am!
Beagleface
02-04-12, 17:09
I just realized I made a flight booking to Bangkok / Pattaya including 13 to 15 April-Songkram time. From what I've heard, this is a mistake. You'll constantly get wet, run out of clothes, its very inconvenient at night and many girls go home.
Can anyone provide me with advice please about this? Should I change my plans as I am now thinking of doing, although not cheap to do so at all.
I was planning on being in Pattaya during 13 to 15, but maybe Bangkok is less wet?
Thanks
Big Joe 11
02-04-12, 17:45
Has anyone been to that club? Is it comparable to Eden Club?
AmericanThief
02-04-12, 18:25
Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.Ah, that's correct. I completely forgot about Livingstone's. The bar is in the hotel, but its probably not the style the OP is talking about, but it does exist, it does. But 2am is closing time.
Its also a little annoying to see the same question asked on multiple threads. The OP has 5 post and all are the same.
I can confirm that intel, although at 2am, there may not be many left to choose from, as most will have been 'taken'.Bar is closing at 1. 00 am, kind of sharp. I came back once right at that time hoping not to go back to the room empy handed (as I indulged a bit too much around) and when engtering the alley crossed the last girl leaving (thought she wasnt the last one!)
I would try Giotto from Livingston Lodge.
I think he has his own thread.Landing at 2am will not set you in Sukhumvit before 3am if immigration and bagage collection is smooth and if the taxi driver is smart.
At 3 a. M. You would look for some FL patrolling Sukhumvit.
Has anyone been to that club? Is it comparable to Eden Club?Different motifs, Demonia is a BDSM club with an entrance fee. Eden is a down and dirty porn sex club minus the entrance fee.
Wolvenvacht
02-04-12, 23:54
Its also a little annoying to see the same question asked on multiple threads. The OP has 5 post and all are the same.Either he is a troll or he must be really desperate for pussy.
Ah, that's correct. I completely forgot about Livingstone's. The bar is in the hotel, but its probably not the style the OP is talking about, but it does exist, it does. But 2am is closing time. Its also a little annoying to see the same question asked on multiple threads. The OP has 5 post and all are the same.Probably just a "newbie."
Very late night you can call Sabai Sabai Massage (open 24/7) on Soi 11 and they will send a lady over for a FS massage. I've done this when I arrived in BKK very early in the morning and was never was disappointed.
Big Joe 11
02-05-12, 05:25
Different motifs, Demonia is a BDSM club with an entrance fee. Eden is a down and dirty porn sex club minus the entrance fee.So I have pay entry fee and pay the girl again?
So I have pay entry fee and pay the girl again?900B for the first drink / entrance fee then you negotiate with the girl for her service.
http://www.demoniabangkok.com/map_and_contact_fetish_bdsm_bangkok.html
I want a working girl that has no issues with being nasty, that is why I hit them with "ngian" and "Pom Yaak Yet" pretty quickly, with a sheepish smile on my face. If they laugh, then I have found a good sport, if they scowl and leave, well.Each to their own, but I recommend for most guys, that if they must talk dirty, it will be far less offensive to do so in English,"I'm horny" or "I want to fuck". I am looking for a GFE with a very pretty girl and nice body rather than a "nasty" type, so I would not dream of saying "Pom Yaak Yet". It's just painting yourself as extremely low class. I don't recall any of my girls using the Thai swearword "Yet" at all. Its just too nasty. I had almost forgotten that this word existed, its so long since I heard it. Its quite naughty enough to use "ow gan".
Not really, just denizens of Malibu.
That was a typo. Now we are 6 and looking for 2 3 bedroom apartments. How are the two hotels I mentioned? I think the Lebua is not as well located for mongering as the Somerset Sukhumvit, but better placed for gastronomic adventures. After all, one has to eat also.
Definitely bottom half BTW.
MMAre you planning to play musical beds and swap the girls around? Orgies? Otherwise Its hard to see why you would not take just several standard rooms in same hotel. Saying you want less bedrooms than the number of people looks suspicious though, unless half of them are girls, and yet you specified girl friendly. If you are trying to save money, just take a cheaper hotel. If you make the requirement more understandable, someone may have the perfect answer for you.
They might only get the occasional barfine, but something tells me they have a few sponsors who provide them with more than just rent money, how else can they afford their new shiny iphones? I see many farang holding hands with below average looking galsPerhaps my experience is not wide enough, but I have not seen many bar-girls with iphones. They can't afford it in general. They usually take cheaper varieties. If a sponsor bought it for them, that is more likelyear oldK, the very top bar girls that mostly do multiple STs per night, could afford it. Most bar girls are struggling to make enough money to support their child, mother and father, and younger sister, etc. If they can collect a few sponsors, then they will be much better shape. The majority of bar girls are probably not making big money. Some get bar fined only occasionally. Some get bar fined almost never and rely on their monthly salary (not much) and drink commissions. Some bars do carry dead-weight girls for various reasons. To boost the numbers, to help keep the good looking friend working at the same place, feel sorry for the girl, etc. They need to have some girls left over when most girls are bar fined already.
Yes its true that Farangs seem to pick some very ordinary lookers at times. These girls must have some redeeeming qualities, I guess. Probably suck up to him wonderfully and are willing to fuck a lot. Personally, I don't get that much pleasure from fucking ugly girls, even if would be available for free. It just isn't a turn on any more, when moderately pretty girls are available. I am spoiled by fucking younger good looking girls with good bodies. I haven't had sex with anyone over 10 years younger than myself for many years. I have fucked a couple of girls who used to be good looking many years back, for old times sake.
How many Farangs are willing to sponsor below average looking bar girls? I don't know that.
Each to their own, but I recommend for most guys, that if they must talk dirty, it will be far less offensive to do so in English,"I'm horny" or "I want to fuck". I am looking for a GFE with a very pretty girl and nice body rather than a "nasty" type, so I would not dream of saying "Pom Yaak Yet". It's just painting yourself as extremely low class. I don't recall any of my girls using the Thai swearword "Yet" at all. Its just too nasty. I had almost forgotten that this word existed, its so long since I heard it. Its quite naughty enough to use "ow gan".One of the more hypocritical things about this country is the fact that they will all use curse words in English, even wear them printed on shirts. And they have no compunction about using them OFTEN, but a foreigner uses one bad word in Thai and they freak. I find it amusing. BUT if you listen to even Hi-so Thais when they are talking in a group and drinking they use "wa" all the time with each other. Actually, they can be quite sarcastic and biting with each other!
I disagree about painting yourself as low class. You don't have to worry about your class when you are around working girls. Isn't that the point?
Of course when in a business setting I would not talk like that, but unlike you I am looking for a PSE with a good looking gal that has a smoking body and no hangups about using it. To each his own of course.
My fav story involving this happened in Patpong about 2001. We were on our yearly pilgrimage to Patpong to remind ourselves why we don't go to Patpong. A tout was saying,"Pu&why show! Pu&why smoke cigarette, Pu&why ping Pong, Pu&why this, and Pu&why that!" I replied "Mai Ow," to which he replied,"ow alallay?" to which I replied,"Yaak Yet Garee." to which he replied,"Oh, cannot say, very bad for Thailand." Here is a guy who is touting a show where gals pull and push things out of their snatches and he tells me it is bad for the country because I want to f*k a wh (*4! Really about sums it up for me!
Perhaps my experience is not wide enough, but I have not seen many bar-girls with iphones. They can't afford it in general. They usually take cheaper varieties. If a sponsor bought it for them, that is more likelyear oldK, the very top bar girls that mostly do multiple STs per night, could afford it. Most bar girls are struggling to make enough money to support their child, mother and father, and younger sister, etc. If they can collect a few sponsors, then they will be much better shape. The majority of bar girls are probably not making big money. Some get bar fined only occasionally. Some get bar fined almost never and rely on their monthly salary (not much) and drink commissions. Some bars do carry dead-weight girls for various reasons. To boost the numbers, to help keep the good looking friend working at the same place, feel sorry for the girl, etc. They need to have some girls left over when most girls are bar fined already.
Yes its true that Farangs seem to pick some very ordinary lookers at times. These girls must have some redeeeming qualities, I guess. Probably suck up to him wonderfully and are willing to fuck a lot. Personally, I don't get that much pleasure from fucking ugly girls, even if would be available for free. It just isn't a turn on any more, when moderately pretty girls are available. I am spoiled by fucking younger good looking girls with good bodies. I haven't had sex with anyone over 10 years younger than myself for many years. I have fucked a couple of girls who used to be good looking many years back, for old times sake.
How many Farangs are willing to sponsor below average looking bar girls? I don't know that.Really? I see a lot of gals at the BG, Tmae, oilies, and gogos with Iphones. Almost all the lookers have a newish phone.
Agree wholeheartedly with you. Life is too short to be banging uglies.
Did you mean you have not had sex with anyone less than 10 year younger than yourself?
LittleBigMan
02-05-12, 13:06
Personally, If I saw a girl with a Iphone or even a copy of one that is a significant sign of what she expects or more where her priority laids in life. Aside from f--king her I wouldn't want anything to do with her.
LBM
Sorry guys but I don't have a Thai dictionary or speak it well at all. If you could would you please explane what the Thai words mean. It would greatly help me learn the language and understand what I would be saying.
Somewhere15
02-05-12, 20:13
Perhaps my experience is not wide enough, but I have not seen many bar-girls with iphones. They can't afford it in general. They usually take cheaper varieties. If a sponsor bought it for them, that is more likelyear oldK, the very top bar girls that mostly do multiple STs per night, could afford it. Most bar girls are struggling to make enough money to support their child, mother and father, and younger sister, etc. If they can collect a few sponsors, then they will be much better shape. The majority of bar girls are probably not making big money. Some get bar fined only occasionally. Some get bar fined almost never and rely on their monthly salary (not much) and drink commissions. Some bars do carry dead-weight girls for various reasons. To boost the numbers, to help keep the good looking friend working at the same place, feel sorry for the girl, etc. They need to have some girls left over when most girls are bar fined already.
Yes its true that Farangs seem to pick some very ordinary lookers at times. These girls must have some redeeeming qualities, I guess. Probably suck up to him wonderfully and are willing to fuck a lot. Personally, I don't get that much pleasure from fucking ugly girls, even if would be available for free. It just isn't a turn on any more, when moderately pretty girls are available. I am spoiled by fucking younger good looking girls with good bodies. I haven't had sex with anyone over 10 years younger than myself for many years. I have fucked a couple of girls who used to be good looking many years back, for old times sake.
How many Farangs are willing to sponsor below average looking bar girls? I don't know that.I had many girls from Guilivers, Insomnia, Climax etc and they newest electronic stuff (including Iphone's, BB and Ipads).
In these countries you are never sure if it is a original or a copy but believe these girls have the newest of the newest stuff.
Sometimes they buy it from there earnings, sometimes it given to them by friends / customers. Who cares.
I am only interested in there behavior and if the chemistry is there I spend the rest of my time with them without using a original or a copy phone!
Tony Hoeprano
02-05-12, 23:50
Personally, If I saw a girl with a Iphone or even a copy of one that is a significant sign of what she expects or more where her priority laids in life. Aside from f-king her I wouldn't want anything to do with her.
LBMI believe an iphone is 24K-32k at MBK for a grey market at MBK. IMO, pretty crazy considering this is more than a month's wages for the typical Thai worker. How long do they save for a stupid phone? LOL.
That would be like someone in the USA buying a phone for $5000 USD LOL (with things being relative to salary)
Just to point out where these Thai gals have their priorities, I met a gal off of Tagged and she was attractive, yet had bad teeth (it was not evident in her pics). Actually, I take that back, she would have been attractive if, instead of buying an unnecessary phone, she would have used the money to fix her fangs. LOL
JimmyBates
02-06-12, 00:27
Sorry guys but I don't have a Thai dictionary or speak it well at all. If you could would you please explane what the Thai words mean. It would greatly help me learn the language and understand what I would be saying.I can't believe I am reading this!
LittleBigMan
02-06-12, 01:46
Sorry guys but I don't have a Thai dictionary or speak it well at all. If you could would you please explane what the Thai words mean. It would greatly help me learn the language and understand what I would be saying.What is the word?
LBM
LittleBigMan
02-06-12, 02:14
Tony H,
I agree, some people don't care and have a one track mind and have no idea what the big picture might be and that might be a go thing? I guess Somewhere there are people who rather have chemistry with bad teeth women. To each his own?
Here is a good example: A orginal Nokia C7, cost something like 13, 000 baht, a copy make from China, looks like the real thing color and all cost 2500 baht still nothing to sneeze at for a working girl from Gullivers, Insomia or Climax that is a month rent for many Thais. After 2 month the thing started to fall apart piece by piece and although many of the Thais know this they still want the item. This says a lot about the person (For those who see the Big picture in life) I guess its like owning a fake Rolex? Trying to be something they aren't and a personality of keeping up with the Jones?
IMHO, there are people like this everywhere in the USA these are the type of people who borrow what they can't afford, leverage there equity in their home to purchase, Lexus and Benz while working their job living beyond their means. I don't need to say where these people are today?
To some this doesn't belong in the Bangkok Thread but the next time you are hit with a ridiculous offer of 5, 000 for LT, from a women with a IPHONE, IPAD, or FAKE who cares this just might be one of the many reasons? Somewhere some fool has to pay for it?
LBM
Each to their own, but I recommend for most guys, that if they must talk dirty, it will be far less offensive to do so in English,"I'm horny" or "I want to fuck". I am looking for a GFE with a very pretty girl and nice body rather than a "nasty" type, so I would not dream of saying "Pom Yaak Yet". It's just painting yourself as extremely low class. I don't recall any of my girls using the Thai swearword "Yet" at all. Its just too nasty. I had almost forgotten that this word existed, its so long since I heard it. Its quite naughty enough to use "ow gan".One of my TGs told me "yet" means fuck. So I'd often tell her "I want to YET you" and she'd always laugh hystericly. Sometimes though she'd act serious and say not to say that, it is bad. She'd also tell her friends what I said & they'd joke & laugh about it too. BTW I don't see how this is inconsistent with a GFE, don't GFs like to fuck, but what's your definition of GFE? People have different ideas of what that means.
Tony H,
I agree, some people don't care and have a one track mind and have no idea what the big picture might be and that might be a go thing? I guess Somewhere there are people who rather have chemistry with bad teeth women. To each his own?
Here is a good example: A orginal Nokia C7, cost something like 13, 000 baht, a copy make from China, looks like the real thing color and all cost 2500 baht still nothing to sneeze at for a working girl from Gullivers, Insomia or Climax that is a month rent for many Thais. After 2 month the thing started to fall apart piece by piece and although many of the Thais know this they still want the item. This says a lot about the person (For those who see the Big picture in life) I guess its like owning a fake Rolex? Trying to be something they aren't and a personality of keeping up with the Jones?
IMHO, there are people like this everywhere in the USA these are the type of people who borrow what they can't afford, leverage there equity in their home to purchase, Lexus and Benz while working their job living beyond their means. I don't need to say where these people are today?
To some this doesn't belong in the Bangkok Thread but the next time you are hit with a ridiculous offer of 5, 000 for LT, from a women with a IPHONE, IPAD, or FAKE who cares this just might be one of the many reasons? Somewhere some fool has to pay for it?
LBMSo it is ok for us, since we are from the West, to have Ipads and Iphones, but it is not ok for Thai working girls? They should live as paupers? I am a little confused here.
So it is ok for us, since we are from the West, to have Ipads and Iphones, but it is not ok for Thai working girls? They should live as paupers? I am a little confused here.I think he's simply saying watch out for working girls who like to live beyond their means. They might be inclined to play you for a sucker.
This says a lot about the person (For those who see the Big picture in life) Trying to be something they aren't and a personality of keeping up with the Jones
IMHO, there are people like this everywhere in the USA, I don't need to say where these people are today?You don't need to say where they are today: they're in the third world, being something they are, seeing the big picture in life. Complaining that they won't pay these 'ridiculous offers' the poor girls are asking and begrudging them cheap electronic consumer goods. The little big picture.
LittleBigMan
02-06-12, 06:29
So it is ok for us, since we are from the West, to have Ipads and Iphones, but it is not ok for Thai working girls? They should live as paupers? I am a little confused here.How you got that message I have no idea? Anyone can have anything including a phone no matter where they live in the West or the East if they can truly afford it! What we are talking about particular in the East is if you are living as a pauper and you just finished spreading your legs and have cash 2500 baht and walk down Sukhumvit and run into a storefront selling phones. She see a knockoff and decides to buy it 2500 baht, now she goes back to her apartment and runs into the manager the manager reminds her that she is behind rent. She gets a call from her mother in Isaan that she needs money to feed her child and that her father is sick and dying?
We are talking about priorities and when we talk about Thais they seem to have priorities backward. Don't save, live for today like tomorrow will never come to collect and spend. I assume in general that the majority of women spreading their legs in Thailand don't make that much and renting a room for 1500 baht and 2 or more girls sharing should be buying a IPHONE, and of course it is their choice being in the West or East!
Now I know a girl that use to work at D. D. And she made a month somewhere around 75, 000/100, 000 baht, she had a 15, 000 baht phone, purchase a small house for a family and takes care of business like buying more land and saving for the day she retires. In her case along with any women P4P or not I couldn't give a flying F-k since they can afford to buy one! Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBM
Are you planning to play musical beds and swap the girls around? Orgies? Otherwise Its hard to see why you would not take just several standard rooms in same hotel. Saying you want less bedrooms than the number of people looks suspicious though, unless half of them are girls, and yet you specified girl friendly. If you are trying to save money, just take a cheaper hotel. If you make the requirement more understandable, someone may have the perfect answer for you.Thanks for the reply, Syz.
We like having the large living room to party in. We travel as a group to have fun for 2. 3 days and make sure there is at least one such apartment with a large living room. Musical beds is definitely on. We also get one or two other standard rooms in the same hotel depending on the number of guys on the trip. I am sorry if that was not clear.
Both, the Somerset and the Lebua have spectacular apartments great for partying in. The Somerset one in particular has a large living room with French Windows overlooking Bangkok from the 27th floor. It was a GF hotel a few years back. Wondering if that has changed now. Have not stayed at the Lebua without family so far, so I am not sure of that one. That is why I was asking.
MM
Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBMWe're talking about young women in their late teens / early twenties. It doesn't matter what country they're from, women of this age generally don't make wise financial decisions. They live for the day.
Mr Enternational
02-06-12, 09:06
Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.GD right they just want to show off. A friend of mine wanted me to bring her some Nuvo vodka. I had never heard of the stuff but a friend of hers had some once. It is in some pink bottle and she said it costs like 1000 baht. She said she would give me the money for it but I refused telling her that she didn't need that shit and she just wanted to show off for friends. Then the next thing I knew she would be calling saying she didn't have money for lunch. I'm one guy who does not mind telling them about themselves.
Sugar: ja want nuvo for my birthday.
MrE: you do not need that shit. You always want something you do not need.
Sugar: just some gift for friend. Even I travel I have bring some gift for friend.
MrE: but you always want gift pang. Everybody not rich same you.
Sugar: just you care that pang. Ok I you tell some friend do for you. So he can say pang to you what you feel. You care only your self.
MrE: I work for myself. When people work they can buy what they want.
Sugar: that thing not like 3000.
Me: I do not care if it is 1000. That is shit you do not need. You only want to show your friends.
Sugar: what shit if Thailand have I didt tell you to bring me. I can get my own.
MrE: yes you buy then next time you say you do not have money for food. That is stupid.
Sugar: ok stop talk that. Whatever you do.
MrE: only because you want to buy bullshit you do not need to show friends. You do not like me to say what is true.
Sugar: stop. It not true.
MrE: well why you need?
Sugar: just I want if you can bring it ok. I tell you buy me then I give you back money. I not tell give me free.
MrE: no. Then next time you do not have money for food. Learn to use money smart.
Sugar: I know much money for gift. But I tell buy for me I pay you back. I know what I do. I don't want talk again. I tell someone who can do for me
LittleBigMan
02-06-12, 14:29
Mr. E,
Your conversation brings back some very bad memories for me. Now I handle situations like this differently. For those who don't know what is going on within the conversation let me break it down to you.
As the conversation progress Mr. E, press the issue about buying something she can't afford since she can't even buy food because she wants to show-off. She starts to get defensive and tries to justify it by saying she will pay him back when in fact one has to say how since she can't even save any money to buy food. This is a very common line use by Thais but when you think about it how are they going to pay you back. And if you question them as Mr. E, does they get more defensive and their tone start to rise because now they are loosing face. See, they like to ask for money but don't like to be question as to why and certainly don't like to be lecture which is basically criticizing them which isn't done in their culture. The word " Bullshit " use your smart was basically saying she has no head which translate that she is stupid.
In the end, it is like a test you buy for me, when questioned by like Mr. E, they loose face so it goes to I'll pay you back, you press on then they don't want to hear it or be lecture and they start to get heated. As she end ' I tell someone who can do for me " certainly this will be another Farang because certainly a Thai man isn't going to do it nor would they have such a conversation. Also, there is another lesson that there is a different standard for us Farang!
LBM
LittleBigMan,
Thanks for breaking it down, in giving your extended explanation as to why you feel a thai bargirl does not deserve to have something she wants for herself, a cellphone, while you go to the third world to get something you cannot afford to get in your home country, and along with it a little big feeling of power. Tremendous exhibit of self-awareness on your part.
How you got that message I have no idea? Anyone can have anything including a phone no matter where they live in the West or the East if they can truly afford it! What we are talking about particular in the East is if you are living as a pauper and you just finished spreading your legs and have cash 2500 baht and walk down Sukhumvit and run into a storefront selling phones. She see a knockoff and decides to buy it 2500 baht, now she goes back to her apartment and runs into the manager the manager reminds her that she is behind rent. She gets a call from her mother in Isaan that she needs money to feed her child and that her father is sick and dying?
We are talking about priorities and when we talk about Thais they seem to have priorities backward. Don't save, live for today like tomorrow will never come to collect and spend. I assume in general that the majority of women spreading their legs in Thailand don't make that much and renting a room for 1500 baht and 2 or more girls sharing should be buying a IPHONE, and of course it is their choice being in the West or East!
Now I know a girl that use to work at D. D. And she made a month somewhere around 75, 000/100, 000 baht, she had a 15, 000 baht phone, purchase a small house for a family and takes care of business like buying more land and saving for the day she retires. In her case along with any women P4P or not I couldn't give a flying F-k since they can afford to buy one! Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBMYou are right on with this. I have visited some of the places these girls live. My last trip the girl took me to her "apt". She paid 500 B a month and said "expensive". The place was a total rat infested box of a shit hole and her kid was sleeping on a concrete floor. No kitchen and they shared a bathroom with others in the building.
But, she had a nice phone and said her phone bill is 3500 B a month.
(first of all, I apologize to all of you my friends as this is my first report in the forum and I am an amateur report writer)
I arrived in Bangkok today and finally got the chance to visit SOL at around 5:30 PM today. 4,5 girls sitting outside. Walked to the door, smiled and greeted the girls and they gave me their smiles back. I immediately chose the girl closest to the entrance door. Unlike the other girls, she was very young, had a really cute 8 face and an above-average 6, 7 body. Took her hands and we went into the bar. One girl watching the door from the other side opened the door for us and we went in. Unfortunately, no other customers there. Man! I am here to exhibit and have BBBJ and sex in public (I. E. In presence of more than just WGs).
I sat on the second sofa and asked her to order herself a drink of her choice. She ordered and brought herself a Cola, sat beside me, and we chatted a little. Her name was 'Pia' (if I heard it correctly) and she was really sweet and friendly. Eventually she asked me if I wanted BJ and I answered yes! I was hoping to have a public boom-boom but decided to have it on a more suitable time when there are others in the bar. She asked me to drop my pants off which I took off with my T-shirt in a blink of an eye and got fully naked. Also asked her to take all her clothes off which she almost obliged as she did not took off her short skirt but instead folded it upper around her waist. Then she started the BBBJ. Excellent technique with deepthroating and even gagging in a few occasions and I could have complete access to her beautiful assets including her nice tits, pussy, and even her anus for a little probe during the session. She even started to finger my anus gently and professionally in order to stimulate me more!
This is where I saw a scene that reminded me of a previous report regarding racism in SOL: The bartender walked past us with her hand on her face and nose like she tries to avoid something smelly. Trust me guys! I was not smelling. I was freshly showered and had applied a generous load of my "DSquared2 Wood" perfume just a few minutes before as I myself more self-conscious about sweating and body odor. And in fact. 6 feet 3 inches tall with an athletic hairless body, I am not bad-looking. Just not a western-looking guy (dark eyes, dark hair, not-so-light skin due to long-time exposure to sunlight, more Spanish / Latin type). So, the behavior immediately reminded my the report and the bell started to ring in my mind but just ignored what I saw and focused on the marvelous service I was receiving. The other fact that made me more suspicious of their racist behavior was that no other girl came in from outside in order to offer me a second mouth joining in.
Eventually, After about 20 minutes of Pia trying hard to make me cum, I finally came in her mouth. We cleaned up for a while and then I went to the bartender to pay my bills. Again, she played the hand-on-nose looking-at-me-like-something-disgusting trick which I ignored again. The cost was 800 THB (700 for BBJ + 100 for lady drink). I gave a 200 THB tip to Pia, thanked her, hugged and kissed her on the chick and went out. But this time even the girl standing beside the door guarding and watching outside put her hand on her nose as I was approaching her and said something which sounded to me like a rude complement about me as I got out of the door.
Well! That was It! I am not sure whether I have been another victim of racism at SOL or not but I will definitely go there again in the next 4 days in order to become sure. BTW, As loong as I can receive services like the one I received today from Pia and I have the chance to fuck in public, I do not care how these girls behave for now.
How you got that message I have no idea? Anyone can have anything including a phone no matter where they live in the West or the East if they can truly afford it! What we are talking about particular in the East is if you are living as a pauper and you just finished spreading your legs and have cash 2500 baht and walk down Sukhumvit and run into a storefront selling phones. She see a knockoff and decides to buy it 2500 baht, now she goes back to her apartment and runs into the manager the manager reminds her that she is behind rent. She gets a call from her mother in Isaan that she needs money to feed her child and that her father is sick and dying?
We are talking about priorities and when we talk about Thais they seem to have priorities backward. Don't save, live for today like tomorrow will never come to collect and spend. I assume in general that the majority of women spreading their legs in Thailand don't make that much and renting a room for 1500 baht and 2 or more girls sharing should be buying a IPHONE, and of course it is their choice being in the West or East!
Now I know a girl that use to work at D. D. And she made a month somewhere around 75, 000/100, 000 baht, she had a 15, 000 baht phone, purchase a small house for a family and takes care of business like buying more land and saving for the day she retires. In her case along with any women P4P or not I couldn't give a flying F-k since they can afford to buy one! Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBMIt is ALL about face here. Does not matter where you live. It is about what you present. Yes, the priorities are very different from ours. Most things are different from the way we do things, but somehow they manage to survive and in some cases thrive here. It is amazing to me that it all seems to somehow work. You would think the economy would fall flat on its face, but it does not. Yes, they are different, but so are many places in the world.
There is an interdependence on family and friends that we do not have and I must admit cannot relate to. I am baffled by it almost daily. Again, my comment was meant almost tongue and cheek.
I think he's simply saying watch out for working girls who like to live beyond their means. They might be inclined to play you for a sucker.But is this any different than most people in the West? Most live way beyond their means, run up huge bills on cars, houses, and credit cards, and if they lose their jobs, they are in big trouble. Seems that is one of the causes of the turmoil we have experienced over the last 4 1/2 years!
Wolvenvacht
02-06-12, 20:02
I was freshly showered and had applied a generous load of my "DSquared2 Wood" perfume just a few minutes before as I myself more self-conscious about sweating and body odor.Maybe you overdid the "DSquared2 Wood" perfume shower? Or the girls are more classically oriented. Try "Old Spice Classic Scent" next time. Guaranteed to work: if your grandfather didn't use it, you wouldn't exist.
Traveler1234
02-06-12, 22:12
Well! That was It! I am not sure whether I have been another victim of racism at SOL or not but I will definitely go there again in the next 4 days in order to become sure. BTW, As loong as I can receive services like the one I received today from Pia and I have the chance to fuck in public, I do not care how these girls behave for now.Don't let it bug you, that's very typical. I was there last month for a pit stop. Busy with my girl in the toilet. 20 min later another girl comes in, I tell her to join and finally blew my load in her mouth. When I paid, the gal outside was sleeping on the sofa, looking bored.
Mr. E,
Your conversation brings back some very bad memories for me. Now I handle situations like this differently. For those who don't know what is going on within the conversation let me break it down to you.
As the conversation progress Mr. E, press the issue about buying something she can't afford since she can't even buy food because she wants to show-off. She starts to get defensive and tries to justify it by saying she will pay him back when in fact one has to say how since she can't even save any money to buy food. This is a very common line use by Thais but when you think about it how are they going to pay you back. And if you question them as Mr. E, does they get more defensive and their tone start to rise because now they are loosing face. See, they like to ask for money but don't like to be question as to why and certainly don't like to be lecture which is basically criticizing them which isn't done in their culture. The word " Bullshit " use your smart was basically saying she has no head which translate that she is stupid.
In the end, it is like a test you buy for me, when questioned by like Mr. E, they loose face so it goes to I'll pay you back, you press on then they don't want to hear it or be lecture and they start to get heated. As she end ' I tell someone who can do for me " certainly this will be another Farang because certainly a Thai man isn't going to do it nor would they have such a conversation. Also, there is another lesson that there is a different standard for us Farang!
LBMYes Mr E's conversation is a course on how not to get along with Thais & [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off. One day he might learn how to play the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook. When in Rome, etc, as they say.
Member #4351
02-06-12, 23:26
the bartender walked past us with her hand on her face and nose like she tries to avoid something smelly.probably just "sour grapes".
Yes Mr E's conversation is a course on how not to get along with Thais & [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off. One day he might learn how to play the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook. When in Rome, etc, as they say.It is a world of difference from playin bitches'and'hos in enternational hoodland.
You are right on with this. I have visited some of the places these girls live. My last trip the girl took me to her "apt". She paid 500 B a month and said "expensive". The place was a total rat infested box of a shit hole and her kid was sleeping on a concrete floor. No kitchen and they shared a bathroom with others in the building.
But, she had a nice phone and said her phone bill is 3500 B a month.Hahahaha! That is funny because it really captures the essense and spirit of many Thai working girls and their twisted priorities.
We all should be thankful for it since we are the beneficiaries.
LittleBigMan
02-07-12, 02:12
LittleBigMan,
Thanks for breaking it down, in giving your extended explanation as to why you feel a thai bargirl does not deserve to have something she wants for herself, a cellphone, while you go to the third world to get something you cannot afford to get in your home country, and along with it a little big feeling of power. Tremendous exhibit of self-awareness on your part.First of all I live here and not to get what I can't afford in the USA, by the way what the fuck are you doing on this board you hypocrite and yet you have the nerve to make such a statement while you are most likely the one doing just that. I came here with a open eye and heart and regardless of how I came to feel like this about Thais, I try very hard everyday not to allow my negative views affect every Thai I come in contact with but it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a opinion about them. That opinion doesn't mean I have power over them. But in the conversation by Mr. E, it is only natural that the one that has the money is the one with the power or in control. Do you just give or loan money without asking questions in your life? The opinion I expressed regarding the conversation I use to think it happens only to me then I found through many Expat that have live and work here for 30 years share the same opinion.
You seem to completely missed the point. I can assume when you come to Thailand to get what you can't afford where you live! I'm sure when you land in Thailand you don't suddenly become stupid and just give your money away or overpay just because she is a bargirl that wants something for herself. If that is the case then you are stupid! When it comes to money that one earns you have the power to control how it is spent and if giving your opinion and advice to someone that wants it then it is power that I control. And if someone has the nerve to ask for something that they don't need (which is in this case) then they should expect a opinion or lecture no matter which country we are talking about but in Thailand the Thais don't see it that way! Bargirls in particular are taught that there is one standard for a Farang and another for a Thai. Tell me have you ever gone to someone and ask to borrow money or to just give it to you without a explanation? In the past I have even been asked to give a opinion on something and when they didn't like the answer they got upset just like the conversation Mr. E, had with this girl. It is as simple as that.
My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me I have live it and more than once. I've learn the hard way and hopefully you learn something before it happens to you. You might have been lucky so far in your life but your comment in my opinion makes you the biggest target in my book. A big tootsie roll walking down Sukhumvit? If yo are just a visitor who come to Thailand because you can't afford the pussy in your own home and only objective is to stick you dick in a hole this conversation is too over your head so please do me a favor and don't respond or just use the ignore button you pay for!
I usually sign off with my handle as a sign of respect to who I respond to regardless of whether it is negative or positive. In this case I sure you will understand?
Maybe you overdid the "DSquared2 Wood" perfume shower? Or the girls are more classically oriented. Try "Old Spice Classic Scent" next time. Guaranteed to work: if your grandfather didn't use it, you wouldn't exist.LOL! Good advice Wolvenvacht! I'm going to try it next time I visit SOL.
? My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me.Your hahahandle :roll eyes: ok, your point: no one takes littlebigmAnS'S money. Be assured, you've made what you are perfectly clear. By the way, which translator do you use.
LittleBigMan
02-07-12, 03:13
But is this any different than most people in the West? Most live way beyond their means, run up huge bills on cars, houses, and credit cards, and if they lose their jobs, they are in big trouble. Seems that is one of the causes of the turmoil we have experienced over the last 4 1/2 years!I have the greatest respect for someone that lives here and yes it isn't much different here than in the West except there are more check and balance. Even with them you have what we have in the USA and Europe as you indicated in the last 4 1/2 years. In the last few years particularly in Pattaya I see it more and more as to what is happening to the Thais. The financial institutions making it easy to borrow money, buying motorbikes and even cars that most Thais can't afford. I see new cars with the red license plates on used car lots Thais unable to make the payments even before the regular plates arrives. Used motorbike shops budging with new stock so many unable to even make a payment of 2, 000 a month to keep the bike. The last few years I have watch Thais go to the ATM or to the market like Big C, Tesco, and watch their card at the check point denied. Thais are headed down the same road as the West and I just shake my head not because I feel I'm better or have power but mostly it saddens me because I know first hand how hard it is to get out. I have no problem with anyone east or west owning a IPHONE if they can afford it but the conversation is about Thais and when it comes to girls in P4P, although a generalization it is the wrong choice since so much can be done with that money instead of having idol chic chat!
A year ago I had the fortune of sitting on the bus to Bangkok with a 73 year old former Thai government official who lived a number of years in New York. In our conversation he told me how sad it is to watch his people look so tired and sad and in his opinion it was because they are striving to be like the west most likely to pay for living beyond their means? He said the old days the Thai people look so happy.
Enjoy, LBM
I have the greatest respect for someone that lives here and yes it isn't much different here than in the West except there are more check and balance. Even with them you have what we have in the USA and Europe as you indicated in the last 4 1/2 years. In the last few years particularly in Pattaya I see it more and more as to what is happening to the Thais. The financial institutions making it easy to borrow money, buying motorbikes and even cars that most Thais can't afford. (snip)Seems like almost every other new business on Silom Road these days is a bank.
Same old story, the rich get richer!
I have the greatest respect for someone that lives here and yes it isn't much different here than in the West except there are more check and balance. Even with them you have what we have in the USA and Europe as you indicated in the last 4 1/2 years. In the last few years particularly in Pattaya I see it more and more as to what is happening to the Thais. The financial institutions making it easy to borrow money, buying motorbikes and even cars that most Thais can't afford. I see new cars with the red license plates on used car lots Thais unable to make the payments even before the regular plates arrives. Used motorbike shops budging with new stock so many unable to even make a payment of 2, 000 a month to keep the bike. The last few years I have watch Thais go to the ATM or to the market like Big C, Tesco, and watch their card at the check point denied. Thais are headed down the same road as the West and I just shake my head not because I feel I'm better or have power but mostly it saddens me because I know first hand how hard it is to get out. I have no problem with anyone east or west owning a IPHONE if they can afford it but the conversation is about Thais and when it comes to girls in P4P, although a generalization it is the wrong choice since so much can be done with that money instead of having idol chic chat!
A year ago I had the fortune of sitting on the bus to Bangkok with a 73 year old former Thai government official who lived a number of years in New York. In our conversation he told me how sad it is to watch his people look so tired and sad and in his opinion it was because they are striving to be like the west most likely to pay for living beyond their means? He said the old days the Thai people look so happy.
Enjoy, LBMI would say that even 12 short years ago when I moved here most Thais were "happy." The last decade has seen BKK turn into one big shopping mall, credit extended to everyone, political unrest, natural disasters, health threats, etc. All of this adds up to an unhappy population. Sad but true.
learn how to play the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook. When in Rome, etc, as they say.Do tell us more :) A mini course on the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook would be useful for most of us in a relationship with a thai (bargirl or otherwise).
Poker Broker
02-07-12, 14:24
Good people of the Bangkok forum.
I have been planning this trip for quite a while and the time is finally upon us. I am heading to Bangkok for 8 nights at the end of this week and would like to extract as much good times and value as possible during my stay. I have read through much of this forum on and off over the last 6 months however I am ashamed to say I am running behind on posting some questions and inviting some feedback.
I am a regular poster over in the Melbourne. Australia forum and would be happy to share insights for those interested. I will also plan on posting detailed reports of my upcoming exploits in Bangers.
I am booked to stay at the Four Points Sheraton which was decided by a few factors. Primarily as I am in a group I had to adhere to cost considerations, however based on this board and my brief email to the hotel. They are girl friendly. If anyone could offer their thoughts / experiences with Four Points I would be greatly appreciative. I also notice that the hotel is almost exactly halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana which I thought was a good location to sample delights from both.
I am really keen to put together a must do / see list with the help of anyone willing to contribute. Yes I do RTFF however I would like to collate as many ideas as possible now that I am so close to arriving. Some of the basics I would like to cover.
- Eden Club looks like a must do to me (plan on getting there early and sampling 2/3 girls minimum)
- Dr BJs is another must do in my opinion. Would love to hear more towards other establishments of similar style / setup.
- Soapy massages. Again a must do and looking for suggestions on favourites or areas of greatest number of establishments.
- I recall reading some time back a place (Go Go I think) that offers pretty overt services in the bar itself & toilets. Was referred to as kinda 'filthy and in your face'. I think it was in PatPong. This is something again I would like to 'sample'.
I would love to hear from anyone that can offer a 'bucket list' of must do's and see's of the mongering world in Bangers. Funding is no issue so I will not be overly driven by a budget (however I planning on paying only what is expected and reasonable!).
Also has anyone had experiences with the BDSM / kinky places? Bar Bar Bangkok and Demonica for example?
Anyway I plan on another thorough read through of the forum tomorrow and will post some more specific questions / discussions shortly. I look forward to sharing my exploits all with you shortly!
Don't let it bug you, that's very typical. I was there last month for a pit stop. Busy with my girl in the toilet. 20 min later another girl comes in, I tell her to join and finally blew my load in her mouth. When I paid, the gal outside was sleeping on the sofa, looking bored.SOL girls seem more depressed and down than the girls in other BJ bars. Probably spending 12-14 hours a day in these places, day after day, creates some type of craziness or mental illness. Especially at SOL which is really bottom of the barrel.
Especially at SOL which is really bottom of the barrel.That's funny, I've always thought of it as the creme de la creme!
But yeah, there's no doubt that working at a blowjob bar is not the best way to acquire a positive view of humanity. I've known a couple of the SoL girls for 10+ years and it always impresses me that they're still pretty nice people at heart.
FlyingVisitor
02-07-12, 17:53
[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1245566]Good people of the Bangkok forum.
. .
- I recall reading some time back a place (Go Go I think) that offers pretty overt services in the bar itself & toilets. Was referred to as kinda 'filthy and in your face'. I think it was in PatPong. This is something again I would like to 'sample'. .
Well, this is SOL in Patpong II. (one of my favourites by the way).
Even if it is not clinically sterile it is a great place. You can enjoy a talented BJ (BBBJ) (and even more!) in the public atmosphere in front of the bar desk. The "action" inside the small toilet booth is not at all attractive. So, stay in the open bar room and sit down on one of the two sofas.
. Also has anyone had experiences with the BDSM / kinky places? Bar Bar Bangkok and Demonica for example? . .
I have been at Bar Bar a few times but no experience with Demonia.
Bar Bar is not bad. You will enjoy hot wax play, bonding, some CBT and so on, however, it is not a 100% hardcore SM place. Nevertheless you can spend a few entertaining hours.
Please report your own impressions to the Forum when you have finished the BKK trip.
Take care.
FV
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?
Crocodilexp
02-07-12, 19:02
I'm a senior. 65+ Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?Are you serious? You should worry more about how to resist being dragged in, rather than chased away.
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?It does not matter if you are 90 and pissing and shitting in a bag.
Do you have money? That is all that matters.
You will do perfectly fine I am sure.
Wolvenvacht
02-07-12, 20:16
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?It is in the Thai culture to be very respectful of older people. Being old, still healthy and (relatively) well off, is a sign that you have good karma, so being with you will spiritually reflect well upon your Thai GF (even if it is only for one night).
Of course, you will have to live up to your status!
Wolvenvacht
02-07-12, 20:57
Eden Club looks like a must do to me (plan on getting there early and sampling 2/3 girls minimum)Personally I think two girls is optimal. One girl you can get anywhere else at better prices and the beds are somewhat smallish to add a third girl. Do not expect to receive a GFE, it is more a PSE. Unless you really boss the girls around, the proceedings run according to a well rehearsed script (which was fine by me, but YMMV).
I would love to hear from anyone that can offer a 'bucket list' of must do's and see's of the mongering world in Bangers. Funding is no issue so I will not be overly driven by a budget (however I planning on paying only what is expected and reasonable!).The agogos of Soi Cowboy are a must see. Suzie Wong is my favourite. I have always received a nice welcome and found someone for LT there. They are not pushy, leave you time to explore, sample and decide. And every time I came there they had full frontal nude shows. Either they paid the local BIB more tea-money or it is in a different precinct than NEP because clothes are not optional in NEP.
I'd give "After Skool" a wide berth, unless you want to receive a quick BJ in the naughty boys corner: the girls are rather pushy here and although the ladydrinks are cheaper, you will be surrounded by at least three girls who all want to have a drink at the same time.
Baccara was too busy when I visited it and the novelty of the glass ceiling wears off quickly. It seems to be favoured by the Japanese and farang are the girls' "plan B" only. Still, it is something you want to see, if only to be able to say you have been there. I never took anyone from there, but they have a nice line-up of fair-skinned, smallish and skinny girls (true to the Japanese taste) , but I rather favour the Isan-type tanned look.
Long Gun and Rawhide offer you the old style "in-your-face" pussy shows (pulling needles and flowers on a string from their pussies, blowing out candles with their pussies, smoking.) , but once you have seen that, there is little to recommend these places.
Rumour has it that some of the agogo bars are very bad at bookkeeping and overcharge you for your and your lady's drinks. Always check the tabs and complain immediately if it is not correct. It never happened to me, but some other members have reported this.
First of all I live here and not to get what I can't afford in the USA, by the way what the fuck are you doing on this board you hypocrite and yet you have the nerve to make such a statement while you are most likely the one doing just that. I came here with a open eye and heart and regardless of how I came to feel like this about Thais, I try very hard everyday not to allow my negative views affect every Thai I come in contact with but it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a opinion about them. That opinion doesn't mean I have power over them. But in the conversation by Mr. E, it is only natural that the one that has the money is the one with the power or in control. Do you just give or loan money without asking questions in your life? The opinion I expressed regarding the conversation I use to think it happens only to me then I found through many Expat that have live and work here for 30 years share the same opinion.
You seem to completely missed the point. I can assume when you come to Thailand to get what you can't afford where you live! I'm sure when you land in Thailand you don't suddenly become stupid and just give your money away or overpay just because she is a bargirl that wants something for herself. If that is the case then you are stupid! When it comes to money that one earns you have the power to control how it is spent and if giving your opinion and advice to someone that wants it then it is power that I control. And if someone has the nerve to ask for something that they don't need (which is in this case) then they should expect a opinion or lecture no matter which country we are talking about but in Thailand the Thais don't see it that way! Bargirls in particular are taught that there is one standard for a Farang and another for a Thai. Tell me have you ever gone to someone and ask to borrow money or to just give it to you without a explanation? In the past I have even been asked to give a opinion on something and when they didn't like the answer they got upset just like the conversation Mr. E, had with this girl. It is as simple as that.
My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me I have live it and more than once. I've learn the hard way and hopefully you learn something before it happens to you. You might have been lucky so far in your life but your comment in my opinion makes you the biggest target in my book. A big tootsie roll walking down Sukhumvit? If yo are just a visitor who come to Thailand because you can't afford the pussy in your own home and only objective is to stick you dick in a hole this conversation is too over your head so please do me a favor and don't respond or just use the ignore button you pay for!
I usually sign off with my handle as a sign of respect to who I respond to regardless of whether it is negative or positive. In this case I sure you will understand?This is a perfect example why some of us have now chosen to limit posting on here. I would like to use this post as an example. I just need to say in this case the author is quite rude and argumentative! The op just gave his opinion and nothing else. If he feels like paying more or buying an IPHONE for a bar girl, that is his business. If he gets more millage because of it then good for him! At the end of the day there would be no bar girls, no Soi cowboy, no Nana plaza and so on if it were not for customers like us to support them. Some customers pay more and some pay less, who cares! For you to say that the customers who pay more, sponsor girls, or buy them gifts are stupid then I want you to think about one thing! How stupid do you think you would feel if members of your family, colleagues, and maybe some of your friends knew you saw bar girls and prostitutes as a hobby? Think about this before you start insulting people on the board for giving their opinion. Please as members have said in the past. Stop the madness and get back to posting some good reports! I am really tired of hearing about politics, water, flowers and how stupid you are if you pay more than the last guy or more than the next guy. It is not your money to complain about hence none of your business. You would think it is your money or something. Honestly if you can say that the customers that pay more drive the prices up then you are more naive than the guy that pays more LOL!
Do tell us more :) A mini course on the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook would be useful for most of us in a relationship with a thai (bargirl or otherwise).I'd suggest LBM's latest post in the General Thread as an excellent example. The guy is IMO well tuned into the Thai culture.
Tony Hoeprano
02-08-12, 07:23
Bargirls like senoir citizens.
1. Have more money.
2. Power is greatly diminished. Just can't get penis hard for long periods of time. Hahahahahaha.
3. Easier to scam. Hahaha.
Your elder stateman status should be no problem sir.LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude
LittleBigMan
02-08-12, 07:34
LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dudeI'm not sure if he was 80-90 but he sure look like it? He could barely walk, the girl helped him on his special made 3 wheelers and placed his walking sticks in a holder and off they went.
LBM
I am booked to stay at the Four Points Sheraton which was decided by a few factors. Primarily as I am in a group I had to adhere to cost considerations, however based on this board and my brief email to the hotel. They are girl friendly. If anyone could offer their thoughts / experiences with Four Points I would be greatly appreciative. I also notice that the hotel is almost exactly halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana which I thought was a good location to sample delights.
I spent two weeks at the Four Points and it is an excellent choice. Also close to Themae and afternoon action at the beer garden on Soi 7. BG7.
You will never be bored.
Following my previous report, I visited SOL for the second time today at around 11:00 AM. This time only 3 girls were sitting outside. Chose the one who was slim and appeared to have nice big tits under her top and got inside. Later found that the girl is 'Pla' which has been mentioned in some of the previous reports. Not with a beautiful face but has a nice slim body with well-shaped big. And as I later realized fake. Tits.
Inside, I noticed that the sofa on the far end was occupied by a guy having BBBJ type of fun with his girl. Sounds like a more exhibitionist atmosphere this time. I ordered a drink for myself and one for her and we talked a little. She asked me if it is my first time which I answered negatively telling her that I'm familiar with the rules."You want suck?" She asked and I smiled and answered positively. She brought her bag, did the initial cleaning and started the BJ. Nice technique with deep-throating, gentle ball-licking and professionally caressing and stimulating my body with her hands. After a few minutes, The guy sitting on the other sofa finished and stood up and I noticed that there was another guy sitting on that sofa whom I couldn't see when I entered. They walked to the bar area, order beers and started drinking and talking together. Now Pla and I were almost in full view of them. In 10 minutes I asked her to switch to boom-boom which she happily obliged, put a condom on my cock, and started riding me reverse cowgirl. Later we switched to missionary and suddenly another guy came in followed by two girls, watched me for a few seconds, and then went to the toilet with one of the accompanying girls. Then I decided to switch to doggie which I did and after a few minutes finished in that position. Good performance from Pla for which I thanked her and tipped her 200 THB.
Total damage 1380 THB (1000 for boom boom. 100 for lady drink. 80 fro my drink. 200 tip). This time I enjoyed the atmosphere a lot more as it matched my exhibitionist taste and I didn't see any rude or racist behavior from any of the girls. I would have liked to stay a little longer but I had to go reach an appointment so I finished my drink and left the place.
THUMBS UP! I will return again!
Crazy4Thai
02-08-12, 12:35
LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dudeIt was some years ago and you just do not see women quite that hot so often now.
He was 85 if he was a day and she was SMOKIN! In fact come to think of it he had two women taking care of him. The second one was just an ordinary beauty.
Poker Broker
02-08-12, 12:38
Thank You all for the suggestions so far. Within 24 hours I will be landing and getting straight into it. Thermae looks interesting and will definitely check it out. Also pretty keen to see what the Beer Gardens are like. I will report thoroughly on all experiences.
I am afraid I have two quick follow up questions. I am running low on time so have not had the opportunity to RTFF on these.
- everyone is suggesting SOL for better or for worse, what is this place actually called? Is SOL an abbreviation?
- my travel partners are also keen to visit some 'standard' type night clubs. My hope is that all will still offer a range of free lancers regardless if the place is legit or not. Think the nightclub scene from Bangkok Dangerous. Do such 'mega club' type places exist and would anyone recommend checking something like this out?
Not everyone in the group is an overt monger so I would like to head to clubs that have a good atmosphere and the old lady up for a LT if I don't have the time to get to a GoGo etc.
Also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? Is there places you are still guaranteed to find a LT / ST past this time? Or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?
Looking forward to getting into it. Thanks again all.
Hotman 666
02-08-12, 13:52
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?Hi Kadol,
If you are a 'nice guy' and treat the girls nicely then your age will NOT matter at all.
You will be welcomed with 'open arms' (and LEGS!)
Just ENJOY them all (I do.)
Hotman
Pointy Stick
02-08-12, 14:07
thank you all for the suggestions so far. within 24 hours i will be landing and getting straight into it. thermae looks interesting and will definitely check it out. also pretty keen to see what the beer gardens are like. i will report thoroughly on all experiences.
i am afraid i have two quick follow up questions. i am running low on time so have not had the opportunity to rtff on these.
- everyone is suggesting sol for better or for worse, what is this place actually called? is sol an abbreviation?
- also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? is there places you are still guaranteed to find a lt / st past this time? or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?
looking forward to getting into it. thanks again all.
sol = star of light. i would recommend dr bj's or [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for the beginner. they are located quite close to each other on sukhimvit while sol is in patpong. sol is an acquired taste and may ruin your impression of bj bars unless you are into a certain kind of 'atmosphere'. how that i think about it how the fuck did it get its name?
kinda. once the regular bar in sukhumvit close down then everything appear to migrates bar stalls around suk soi 4-7 (nana bts) with the girls continuing todrink / eat.
another option is to ask one of the tuk tuk drivers to take you somewhere but this is obviously going to be subject to commission / higher prices but if you're only in town for a short time it could be worthwhile given your time contraints. however it is not something i would ever do or have done.
alternatively you could get the ph number of girls you meet in bars and hook up with them after you have finished partying for the night.
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?It is amazing how devoted some young girls are to older men. Atleast by outward appearance. Girls from very poor family are not treated well in their surroundings. If a old foreigner shows compassion, treats her well and
Takes care of her economic needs, she tend to be good in order not to kill the golden goose.
There are horror stories as well how they milk guys to their none and cast them away.
As for mongering irrespective of how much money the old guy has girls have their preferences. Some will never be caught dead with a old guy. Not all bargirls are willing to be barfined by a old guy. Yes, they will sit and.
Get their ladydrinks to make money.
Will you be chased away from mongering venues? Hard to say. There will not be a get out or else situation. Thai are subtle in ways. They will say something like all girls are busy, can you come later or there are only some.
Old girls left etc. For ST arrangement many girls will be willing I suppose especially in BJ bars or massage places.
Experiences vary from person to person. You need to frequent these places to find out what your individual experience is.
There is no general answer.
It is amazing how devoted some young girls are to older men. Atleast by outward appearance. Girls from very poor family are not treated well in their surroundings. If a old foreigner shows compassion, treats her well and
Takes care of her economic needs, she tend to be good in order not to kill the golden goose.
There are horror stories as well how they milk guys to their none and cast them away.
As for mongering irrespective of how much money the old guy has girls have their preferences. Some will never be caught dead with a old guy. Not all bargirls are willing to be barfined by a old guy. Yes, they will sit and.
Get their ladydrinks to make money.
Will you be chased away from mongering venues? Hard to say. There will not be a get out or else situation. Thai are subtle in ways. They will say something like all girls are busy, can you come later or there are only some.
Old girls left etc. For ST arrangement many girls will be willing I suppose especially in BJ bars or massage places.
Experiences vary from person to person. You need to frequent these places to find out what your individual experience is.
There is no general answer.If you are still young in your hard and be able to show your confidence, you will have no problem. Only my point of view.
Following my previous report, I visited SOL for the second time today at around 11:00 AM. This time only 3 girls were sitting outside. Chose the one who was slim and appeared to have nice big tits under her top and got inside. Later found that the girl is 'Pla' which has been mentioned in some of the previous reports. Not with a beautiful face but has a nice slim body with well-shaped big. And as I later realized fake. Tits.
Inside, I noticed that the sofa on the far end was occupied by a guy having BBBJ type of fun with his girl. Sounds like a more exhibitionist atmosphere this time. I ordered a drink for myself and one for her and we talked a little. She asked me if it is my first time which I answered negatively telling her that I'm familiar with the rules."You want suck?" She asked and I smiled and answered positively. She brought her bag, did the initial cleaning and started the BJ. Nice technique with deep-throating, gentle ball-licking and professionally caressing and stimulating my body with her hands. After a few minutes, The guy sitting on the other sofa finished and stood up and I noticed that there was another guy sitting on that sofa whom I couldn't see when I entered. They walked to the bar area, order beers and started drinking and talking together. Now Pla and I were almost in full view of them. In 10 minutes I asked her to switch to boom-boom which she happily obliged, put a condom on my cock, and started riding me reverse cowgirl. Later we switched to missionary and suddenly another guy came in followed by two girls, watched me for a few seconds, and then went to the toilet with one of the accompanying girls. Then I decided to switch to doggie which I did and after a few minutes finished in that position. Good performance from Pla for which I thanked her and tipped her 200 THB.
Total damage 1380 THB (1000 for boom boom. 100 for lady drink. 80 fro my drink. 200 tip). This time I enjoyed the atmosphere a lot more as it matched my exhibitionist taste and I didn't see any rude or racist behavior from any of the girls. I would have liked to stay a little longer but I had to go reach an appointment so I finished my drink and left the place.
THUMBS UP! I will return again!Just got to love BKK. Every city in the world should have a bar like SOL!
Hello, gentlemen,
6. Another outcall from mango. Everyone's favourite cherry. Pity she's not there anymore. That session was the highlight of my last trip. No limitations full night. I gave her amy's hoops which she left in my room.
Cheers guysWhat is mango and how do you arrange an outcall?
TIA for helping a newbie.
Tony Hoeprano
02-08-12, 23:48
- my travel partners are also keen to visit some 'standard' type night clubs. My hope is that all will still offer a range of free lancers regardless if the place is legit or not. Think the nightclub scene from Bangkok Dangerous. Do such 'mega club' type places exist and would anyone recommend checking something like this out?
Not everyone in the group is an overt monger so I would like to head to clubs that have a good atmosphere and the old lady up for a LT if I don't have the time to get to a GoGo etc.
Also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? Is there places you are still guaranteed to find a LT / ST past this time? Or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?Plenty of options. As far as the Bangkok Dangerous club, where the high class ass resides, they're called G-Clubs and you'll end up paying quite a bit of money with the likelihood of not getting sex. If you just want to enjoy hanging around hot Thai girls, go for it. St Moritz is in the immediate vicinity on Soi 11, just do a google / youtube search for more info.
Past 2 AM I would check out Insomnia, cm2, Climax, scratchdog, boss, or bossy Again, you can do some of your own research. Or you could just grab a beer and walk down lower sukhumvit and look for a street walker. Before 2 AM, check out RCA, Route 66 is great, it's been known as mostly a Thai only place, but last time I was there, there were many foreigners. Maybe 40-50%
Mr Enternational
02-09-12, 02:51
I'm not sure if he was 80-90 but he sure look like it? He could barely walk, the girl helped him on his special made 3 wheelers and placed his walking sticks in a holder and off they went.
LBMWas she standing up on the back of the 3 wheeler?
What is mango and how do you arrange an outcall?
TIA for helping a newbie.I've never done it, but I'm guessing typing Mango Bangkok in google then calling them would work. Shocking, I know.
LittleBigMan
02-09-12, 07:12
Was she standing up on the back of the 3 wheeler?It's a Honda click that has been motified in the front to have two wheels, kind of a reverse tricycle. The orginal seat is intact so you still can ride two. After she help him out of the club and on to the bike she hop on the back and they left.
LBM
I've never done it, but I'm guessing typing Mango Bangkok in google then calling them would work. Shocking, I know.A truly innovative suggestion CO, thanks.
For any other inexperienced lurkers that may want to know, mango is a bar in the Nana Plaza called The Big Mango Bar.
I didn't call as I am not looking to retain the service (I was just trying to understand the lingo) , but I am guessing an outcall involves having a BG sent to your room for a ST or LT.
I don't know how you make a selection as I didn't see any pictures or descriptions of individual girls on the website.
I suppose the selection process would be explained when you call. I hope it isn't just pot luck. (Take whatever you get.)
I'm gratified by how helpful and friendly posters here are to newcomers.
But I think just saying "Big Mango Bar in Nano Plaza. Call to have a BG sent to your hotel." would have saved Chill Out some typing and possibly been helpful to more than just me.
Just saying.
A truly innovative suggestion CO, thanks.
For any other inexperienced lurkers that may want to know, mango is a bar in the Nana Plaza called The Big Mango Bar.
I didn't call as I am not looking to retain the service (I was just trying to understand the lingo) , but I am guessing an outcall involves having a BG sent to your room for a ST or LT.
I don't know how you make a selection as I didn't see any pictures or descriptions of individual girls on the website.
I suppose the selection process would be explained when you call. I hope it isn't just pot luck. (Take whatever you get.)
I'm gratified by how helpful and friendly posters here are to newcomers.
But I think just saying "Big Mango Bar in Nano Plaza. Call to have a BG sent to your hotel." would have saved Chill Out some typing and possibly been helpful to more than just me.
Just saying.Google "mango massage Bangkok", and you will have the address of the website of the mango massage that everyone is talking abut on this thread. You will have all necressary info on the website, inc pictures of the girls. When you have made your choice, go back to the thread and look for reports corresponding on those girls.
Hope that this changes your perception of how helpful, or not, are people on this forum. And do not forget to reciprocate in telling us your expereinces.
Another visit to SOL today at around 12:00 PM. Entered Patpong II from Silom and reached the area where I can check the girls. Just one girl outside and she was the door-watcher who did the you-stinky-get-out-of-here game on me. Decided not to take her so continued my steps to Surawong, wasted about 5 minutes of time and got back into Patpong II hoping to find some other girls to choose. This time I went from the left side of Patpong II (entering from Surawong) walking past Pinocchio's, a pool bar and some bars on my right directly towards SOL. And Yesss! Two other girls sitting outside this time. Chosen the girl near the entrance (face so so, kinda chubby body) and we went in.
Upon entering I saw the door-watcher girl again to whom I smiled and greeted nicely and got a semi-smile back. Unfortunately, no other customers there so I decided to take the far-end sofa. The girl asked me if I wanted any drinks which I answered negatively but asked her to order a drink for herself which she gladly did. She the sat by my side and we had a small chat as usual with questions like "What's your name?" and "You're in holiday?" from her and of course me asking her name, which she answered "Nan", and her age, which she answered 28. During our chat she started rubbing my cock and after a while asked "You wan' sucking now?" which I answered "Yes please!" and the show started immediately.
Opening ceremony including she taking her stuff and cleaning my cock done and she went to the BBBJ part. Oh lord! This one was also a pro BJ queen. Nice technique, slow moves, deepthroating and efficient use of tongue was on the menu. A few minutes passed and I asked her to take all her clothes off and did the same myself. She got fully naked, climbed up the sofa on her knees on my right side and continued the job from this angle while I was touching, rubbing, and fingering her pussy and tickling her anus which she started to respond to by her mild body moves after a minute or two. Then another girl came in which was the barmaid on my second visit. She was fat but had a very cute face. Seeing her in regular clothes yesterday, I thought she was not on the menu but this time as she came in with BJ girl clothes on, I wondered whether she was also on the menu or not. She had some work to do in the bar which she did but I noticed that she is trying to make some eye contact with me, so gave her the chance and smiled to her and got a friendly smile back with a proposal of her joining my party with Nan as the second lady. I thought for a while and said "Why not! Come on!"."Yooohooo!" She screamed cheerfully and ran to take her stuff.
In a blink of an eye, she was sitting on the ground having my cock in her mouth with Nan changing position and now, DFKing and caressing me. Oh man! Great moments! The second girl was doing a fantastic job, taking and keeping my cock deeply in her throat using her tongue on my balls at the same time and believe me guys she was doing it with so much passion that made me more and more horny. After a few minutes in this situation, I couldn't keep myself anymore and blew the load in her mouth which she licked clean and then spitted on a wipe. Whoooooooooh! I was done! Upon cleaning and putting my clothes on, she told me that she was a little disappointed because she also wanted to take her top off and get more dirty which I smiled and answered her "OK! We'll do it next time baby!" and I was really able to see the joy and passion in her eyes as she was hearing my answer "Yes! Next time my top off".
OK! Time for the bill! Total damage 1900 THB (700*2 for BJ. 100 for lady drink. 200*2 tip) and I was on my way out. I asked the name of the second girl and she answered something like "Pie" or "Pine" (I'm not sure). At the door, she spanked my butt and said "Next time my top off!" and we laughed together.
Nice experience today! Unfortunately, not an exhibitionist atmosphere this time but taking two BJ queens at the same time and seeing the amount of passion from the second girl was things I won't forget. BTW, My return flight is tomorrow evening. Seems that I will have a chance for another visit tomorrow morning (around 10:00 AM) which I might do as a goodbye-party for SOL until my next trip to Bangkok in the not-so-near future. Any suggestions for what to experiment in SOL tomorrow?
Google "mango massage Bangkok", and you will have the address of the website of the mango massage that everyone is talking abut on this thread. You will have all necressary info on the website, inc pictures of the girls. When you have made your choice, go back to the thread and look for reports corresponding on those girls.
Hope that this changes your perception of how helpful, or not, are people on this forum. And do not forget to reciprocate in telling us your expereinces.Many thanks, Dreams. And thank you for correcting my post for the sake of other newbies who may be monitoring this forum.
I probably won't use the outcall service, but after checking out the girls on the website I may well head to Mango for a massage.
This is a great example of why information from this forum is superior to what you find on the internet.
Personal experience trumps propoganda every time.
And yes, this shows that posters here can be quite friendly and helpful.
I will definately report on my first mongering trip as best I can. (Might be too excited to remember names and places, but I will try.)
Thanks again,
GPa
I've had a good time Las Vegas gogo. 3rd floor Nana Plaza, a couple of times recently. Some real cuties, and pleasant shows.
It doesn't have throngs of girls, but in my opinion it's worth having a look.
Certain members who recently PM'ed me need to clear their inboxes if they expect a reply.
I recall reading some time back a place (Go Go I think) that offers pretty overt services in the bar itself & toilets. Was referred to as kinda 'filthy and in your face'.There are several places like this. One is Afterskool on Soi Cowboy. Check out the "naughty boy corner" for an on-premises romp.
Bunky
Sorry if I was rude Gpa69. It is considered a good idea to spend a few hours reading the threads here several tens of pages back though, which will answer many of the basic questions you may have.
You can check the thread "Bangkok Massage Parlors. Except TULIP and ANNIES!" for more info on massage places, Mango included.
Tony Hoeprano
02-10-12, 13:38
Was not impressed with the lineup at Mangos! However it was during the day, and I think the hot ones come rolling in during the evening. Which makes sense, the ugly ones have to work hard for their money, not many guys pick them. The hot ones can be lazy and sleep in late
JohnnyVegas
02-10-12, 15:48
I've had a good time Las Vegas gogo. 3rd floor Nana Plaza, a couple of times recently. Some real cuties, and pleasant shows.
It doesn't have throngs of girls, but in my opinion it's worth having a look.
Certain members who recently PM'ed me need to clear their inboxes if they expect a reply.I agree. A few beauties in there and not usually very crowded. SPANKY's is always packed but it's worth it to squeeze in to find a seat and watch the wild fun. You can eeven pick up one of the spanking sticks and slap the girls on stage. BFd a girl from there and she was really good too. The owner makes sure the girls take care of his customers.
Sorry if I was rude Gpa69. It is considered a good idea to spend a few hours reading the threads here several tens of pages back though, which will answer many of the basic questions you may have.
You can check the thread "Bangkok Massage Parlors. Except TULIP and ANNIES!" for more info on massage places, Mango included.No Problem Chill Out.
And I'm sorry for the sarcasm. I was just trying to advocate for newbies a little.
I have been RTFF on this thread and the Pattaya thread back to the first of the year.
But it wasn't clear from the post that mango is a massage parlor and I was trying to understand the reference.
I want to be as prepared as I can for my first mongering experience so I don't end up spinning my wheels the whole time and have nothing worthwhile to report here. (And I would just a soon avoid getting scammed or ripped off if possible.)
If I ever become a Senior Member (and I sincerely hope to) I will do what I can to help newcomers get oriented and have the best time possible.
In the meantime Happy Mongering.
It's all good.
GPa
Pinaypounder
02-10-12, 18:57
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?I have travelled to BKK at least 12 times over the last decade. I have always been impressed and moved at times to see Thai girls with the elderly and in-firmed, handicapped people, people of all walks of life.
Whenever I see these pairs I closely watch the girls to see if they are embarrassed or even insincere and I quite honestly think that they are NOT. They appear to be loyal dedicated and content, these are idioms I seldom see here in the West.
The Thai culture in my observatios is the least judgemental in the world, this is the #1 reason why I love Thailand and I love Thailand.
There are of course exceptions to all generalizations but I will tell you that you will be treated better there for less cost than anywhere in the world. Do not allow yourself to be betrayed or trust to much in the beginning, a hungry dog may choose to steal a steak simply because they are HUNGRY.
If you treat a Thai woman with respect and genuine caring and affection and this is easy I assure you, you will have that returned in spades. And the cost of a day with these ladies is less than 2 hours of a western 187lb nurse or Nursing assistant.
I have met all manners of amazing women there some were employed full time in the sex trade some not, I only recall 1 stupid Thai girl out of hundreds (not that I bedded them all).
Go enjoy, respect and live it will be the best thing you ever did in your entire live, smile with your face and your heart!
I fing miss Thailand.
Hi,
I will in BKK in a few days and wold like to know if EDEN CLUB still exists (the owner is a french guy named Marc).
Thanks for the answers.
In case of negative answers, is there a similar spot to visit?
I agree, thai girls are great. Some people here have a rather negative view of them (they are all scammers etc) , not true at all in my experience.
Pinaypounder, somehow you still seem to favor Pinays even more?
Wolvenvacht
02-11-12, 07:56
Hi,
I will in BKK in a few days and wold like to know if EDEN CLUB still exists (the owner is a french guy named Marc).
Thanks for the answers.
In case of negative answers, is there a similar spot to visit?It was still there last December when I visited it for a nice romp with two of its ladies. Thorough PSE: threesome, BBBJ, CIM, lesbian interlude, dildo-play, many positions and finally a second pop in doggy and then it was time to take the plane home. I slept well on the plane.
Tony Hoeprano
02-11-12, 09:21
I think Thai girls on average, are better looking than Pinay girls. But the ones that are hot. Hot damn! Having been in both places, I felt that Pinays are more responsive to westerners. Obviously, them being able to speak English is a hugh bonus. If it wasn't such a shithole, I'd go there more often. I also think Pinays are a bit less mercenary than their Thai sisters.
Was not impressed with the lineup at Mangos! However it was during the day, and I think the hot ones come rolling in during the evening. Which makes sense, the ugly ones have to work hard for their money, not many guys pick them. The hot ones can be lazy and sleep in lateNot really. Mango has rules and girls are not permitted to just turn up when they feel like it.
The best lookers may well be busy or on outside bookings.
There are not many pretty girls doing PSE. Cat is probably the cutest at Mango in my opinion although there may be newer girls I didn't meet.
Mighty Mark
02-11-12, 10:44
Know this is a strange question on the BKK board, but I heard that some parlors have a selection of high end Chinese girls.
Anyone know where? Every now and again a change of scenery is good and no time to travel these days.
Thanks.
MM
yesterday was my departure date so after waking up, packing my bags, and checking out from the hotel, i decided to pay the last visit during my trip to sol. around 10:30 am and i was there. checked the girls from far, only two girls out one of which was nan that was mentioned in my last report but i could not see the other girl's face and body as she sat on a chair having her back on me. so, i proceeded to the end of patpong ii, made a u turn, and walked towards sol. as i was approaching the destination i could see more of the girl that i couldn't see. omg! can i trust my eyes? she was beauuuuutiful 10/10 (of course imho but i bet most of you do agree with me totally seeing her in person) and seemed to have a nice body of 9/10 as well. definitely something that is even hard to find in the best go-go bars."am i dreaming?" i said to myself,"a girl of this standard in sol? a bj bar?". and the answer was yes! she was sitting there wearing standard sol blowjob-queen uniform talking with her cellphone.
well! still not believing what i saw, i reached the place. nan recognized and smiled to me and i smiled to her and greeted her politely. the other girl was still talking on cellphone so i asked nan whether she is available to choose and she answer "yes!" and told the girl that she has a client. she shaked her head meaning that she understood nan so nan stood up and lead me in, sat me on the sofa in the far end, and asked me to make myself comfortable and order a drink if i wanted while waiting for her. i thanked her and sat on the sofa waiting for the girl of my dreams. in a few mintues, she came in and walked towards me. man! great body and she was tall (in thai standard) as well. and again, what a cute asian face. gorgeous eyes reflecting senses of both delusion and innocence! small lips! wow! i'm not really able to describe it.
she didn't stop by me in order to sit and chat a little with me. instead she took stuff and asked me to undo my pants in order to start the work. i was suprised that she seemed to be very shy as she avoided making eye contact with me by any means and seemed to be a little embarrassed and upset as well. also, it seemed that she couldn't speak any english as every word she spoke while i was there was in thai.
eventually, i was out of my clothes and having done the opening ceremony, she started the bbbj part. average technique comparing to other sol girls but i was already having a hard-on just by watching this cutie. the only thing that was making me a little disappointed was the feeling that she was a bit uncomfortable doing it. few minutes passed and i asked her to take off her top. nice natural tits that were really enjoyable playing with. playing with her tits made me hornier to the point that i really wanted to take all her clothes off, suck those nice nipples, and convert my session to a hot fs. was she also available for fs? i decided to probe her a little so went for a hand down her panties. unfortunately, she moved her body in a way to deny me the access request which made me realize that she might not be available for this type of action. sad conclusion!
suddenly in the middle of our session, the bell rang and nan came in with a gentleman in his late-50 or early-60. he sat on the other sofa and after a while went to use the toilet spotting me and my girl on his way in and a few minutes later on his way out. nan took him a glass of water and he sat there with no action at all. interesting! meanwhile, my girl increased her bj speed and after a while she seemed tired. so, she proceeded with a hand-job (much more talented here) which i didn't stand up against because i didn't want her to be uncomfortable anymore. also, it gave me the chance to enjoy watching her face for a while. i was really in a mood for kissing her but thinking about the fact that she might not like it or be into it i just left the things be and after another few minutes i came and she took it all in her mouth and after ensuring that nothing was left in me finished and spitted it into a wipe.
cleaning and wearing my clothes and i was ready to pay and leave while she was drinking and spitting mouthwash in the sink. nan gave me my 700 thb bill which i paid. then went to the girl to give her the 200 thb tip while she was still busy with washing her mouth. so nan called her to pay attention to me and there i found out that her name was something like 'gon'. she immediately came to me this time with a nice smile that i was finally able to see. i gave her the tip and thanked her which she thanked back, said goodbye to her and to nan and left sol.
only if it was not my departure date: i would have barfined her for lt, made a reservation in a luxury hotel, and treated and pampered her like a real lady for two or three days. oh man! i wish i could see her once again which i'm not sure that will happen in the future as i'm sure i won't have any other trips to bangkok in the next 2 years. am i fallen in love with her? of course not but i admit that it could really happen if i had gone with her for lt and things gone well enough. in the plane back home i spent all my time thinking about her and the sometimes laughed loudly imagining you guys in rotflmao state while reading the story of a guy falling in love with his sol bj queen in isg. that's all ok with me so go on and have a good time friends! .
all in all, i had a great time during my four visits to sol and i will definitely return in my (hopefully) next trips in the future. i also recommend all of you who haven't experienced sol yet to take time and give yourself the chance. and in the case, you have more information about the girl i was talking about i would be glad to hear it. also, if you have chance to see her, tell her that the guy who visited her in friday morning is almost fallen in love with her.
Tony Hoeprano
02-11-12, 10:55
Know this is a strange question on the BKK board, but I heard that some parlors have a selection of high end Chinese girls.
Anyone know where? Every now and again a change of scenery is good and no time to travel these days.
Thanks.
MMYou're better taking a flight to Macau and visiting a sauna there. There are high end joints, Long Beach, Love Boat, The Lord, and Victoria. I think The Lord is the most high end fwiw. Posiedon too but they charge a 1K farang surcharge. (of course if you're Asian then it doesn't matter)
Not really. Mango has rules and girls are not permitted to just turn up when they feel like it.
The best lookers may well be busy or on outside bookings.
There are not many pretty girls doing PSE. Cat is probably the cutest at Mango in my opinion although there may be newer girls I didn't meet.Went to Mango this morning. Yes, Cat is the cutest and I booked her for this reason. She is what one would call a nice pretty cute next door girl. .
Much too young and slim for my taste, but certainly fine by most other people's standards. But I fell for her pretty face and smile. But, yes, also, this was and definitively not PSE by any means.
Service was good though, but not outstanding. Assisted shower was just that, no more. Body body was good but short. BBBJ was excellent, and DATY. 69 etc was on the menu, even a bit of ball licking and AR. No DFK (I ususally don't wish DFKing MP girls, but when you are the first customer of the day.) and more disappointingly, no anal. Anyway, fucking her very tiny pussy felt very good. Then a bit of lame massage that I asked her to stop, a few minutes of cuddling and that was it.
WIR? Yes, but will probably try finding a slightly more curvy, fleshy and older provider.
Went to Mango this morning. Yes, Cat is the cutest and I booked her for this reason. She is what one would call a nice pretty cute next door girl. .
Much too young and slim for my taste, but certainly fine by most other people's standards. But I fell for her pretty face and smile. But, yes, also, this was and definitively not PSE by any means.
Service was good though, but not outstanding. Assisted shower was just that, no more. Body body was good but short. BBBJ was excellent, and DATY. 69 etc was on the menu, even a bit of ball licking and AR. No DFK (I ususally don't wish DFKing MP girls, but when you are the first customer of the day.) and more disappointingly, no anal. Anyway, fucking her very tiny pussy felt very good. Then a bit of lame massage that I asked her to stop, a few minutes of cuddling and that was it.
WIR? Yes, but will probably try finding a slightly more curvy, fleshy and older provider.I want to delete this post, since I posted it by mistake on the wrong thread, but don't know how to do it. Have copy-pasted it on the relevant MP thread.
I want to delete this post, since I posted it by mistake on the wrong thread, but don't know how to do it. Have copy-pasted it on the relevant MP thread.You usually have apr 1hr to edit or delete your own messages.
(after posting it)
After that it is engraved here for life.
Traveler1234
02-11-12, 14:56
Checked the girls from far, only two girls out one of which was Nan that was mentioned in my last report but I could not see the other girl's face and body as she sat on a chair having her back on me.Nan recognized and smiled to me and I smiled to her and greeted her politely.If Nan is the thin spinner body, she's a trooper. Spent 40+ minutes with her my last visit, including great BBBJ / FS.
You're better taking a flight to Macau and visiting a sauna there. There are high end joints, Long Beach, Love Boat, The Lord, and Victoria. I think The Lord is the most high end fwiw. Posiedon too but they charge a 1K farang surcharge. (of course if you're Asian then it doesn't matter)Tony, Tony. Didn't you know that Long Beach was once called "Honolulu Love Boat"? You write as though they were two different places. Are you writing from your own experiences? I'll will guess you don't know where Victoria is. Poseidon used to be 500 surcharge. Has it changed recently? Okay Folks we are even in the wrong thread.
Tony Hoeprano
02-11-12, 18:13
Tony, Tony. Didn't you know that Long Beach was once called "Honolulu Love Boat"? You write as though they were two different places. Are you writing from your own experiences? I'll will guess you don't know where Victoria is. Poseidon used to be 500 surcharge. Has it changed recently? Okay Folks we are even in the wrong thread.You're right my mistake, the other one was copa cobana and malibu, they're all pretty much all the same. And yes, Posiedon has a 1k farang surcharge now, mr syzgies
Nan is not the girl with thin spinner body. Nan, as mentioned in my "Star of Light Yet Another Visit" report, was the average face kinda chubby body girl but she was very sweet and friendly with good manners and of course great BJ technique and wild kisses. The other girl was (hopefully if I heard the right words) called "Gon" and IMHO and my taste she was really beautiful.
If Nan is the thin spinner body, she's a trooper. Spent 40+ minutes with her my last visit, including great BBBJ / FS.
You're right my mistake, the other one was copa cobana and malibu, they're all pretty much all the same. And yes, Posiedon has a 1k farang surcharge now, mr syzgiesFarangs would be well advised to use Copa Cabana rather than Poseidon. Better lineup too.
Tony Hoeprano
02-12-12, 05:02
I wonder if there's an Indian or negro surcharge at these places?
Its obvious some places don't want farang.
Is it the girls who don't want them? Many light skin girls tell me they just don't care for farangs. What the hell do you guys ask for. Hahahahaha. Besides the asshole. Hahahaha.Actually Harold, I think it is the Asian customers that have a problem, not the girls. They are intimidated by the fact that most Farangs are bigger, stronger, better looking, and more well endowed! Not to mention, most are also concerned with pleasing the gal as well.
Hi Guys.
I am soon off to LOS again. It has been quite a while since last time. Having received great guidance by the experts here on my previous trip, I will try again:
I remember, I went to a fish-bowl-like place close to Beergarten (great place) last time where you could sit and observe the girls before choosing a number. Great!
Unfortunately, one was not allowed to spank the little monkey while observing. Is there a chance for finding a place that allows that in BKK (or even Pat)?
Another thing on my list is to visit the largest fish-bowl-place in BKK. What / where would that be?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
Actually Harold, I think it is the Asian customers that have a problem, not the girls. They are intimidated by the fact that most Farangs are bigger, stronger, better looking, and more well endowed! Not to mention, most are also concerned with pleasing the gal as well.Hahahah! Now that is wishful thinking at the extreme.
Why do you think some massage parlors have farang surcharges? Is it because we are better looking and more concerned with pleasing the girls?
Thai girls have to get used to farangs before liking them and some never do. Also, it's no secret that Asians tend to pay them more without complaint and generally make less demands on them.
Mr Enternational
02-12-12, 12:21
Hahahah! Now that is wishful thinking at the extreme.
Why do you think some massage parlors have farang surcharges? Is it because we are better looking and more concerned with pleasing the girls?No. It is probably because the farang is going to be very demanding as per the services they are seeking and work the shit out of the girl, whereas the other guy will be more of a BFE for her.
No. It is probably because the farang is going to be very demanding as per the services they are seeking and work the shit out of the girl, whereas the other guy will be more of a BFE for her.And when it comes to insufferable arrogant assholes, farangs as a group, take the prize.
No. It is probably because the farang is going to be very demanding as per the services they are seeking and work the shit out of the girl, whereas the other guy will be more of a BFE for her.Yes, the Farang expects a certain level of service. And many Asian customers will take whatever they are given. For Farang there is no "face" at issue, just a good time.
And when it comes to insufferable arrogant assholes, farangs as a group, take the prize.? Really? I would say we are far more polite than many of our Asian brethren. I was in Tmae one night with a friend who speaks fluent Japanese. The incredibly offensive things they were saying about the girls was infuriating. Several were equating them to rats.
The arrogance prize certainly goes to the Asian guys!
Thank you all for the reports, I read back more than a few pages and still have more to read but this is what I got thus far:
Freelance Clubs- After 2Am.
Insomnia.
CM2.
Climaxx.
Scratch Dog.
I have seen most the favorable reviews for insomnia, let me know your thoughts.
BJ Bars
Dr BJs-is a must and I will try to visit.
I will be staying at the Renaissance near Chitlom BTS and fellow members have said that it is in fact girl friendly, the security guards are more interested in checking bags and items then who you bring into the hotel. Let me know if that is different.
I am not as familiar with Bangkok as I have spent most of my time in Pattaya, so any additional pointers will be appreciated. I will stay one night and a day in BKK, then off to Pattaya late evening the next day.
AssLover945
02-12-12, 17:39
? Really? I would say we are far more polite than many of our Asian brethren. I was in Tmae one night with a friend who speaks fluent Japanese. The incredibly offensive things they were saying about the girls was infuriating. Several were equating them to rats.
The arrogance prize certainly goes to the Asian guys!Peace guys Peace!
Since when did we start discriminating like the Thais and Thai Girls? (we all know they are racists)
We are all here to enjoy our time with the lovely ladies, in return for our money.
So I see this argument as absolutely unwarranted for.
Why do you think some massage parlors have farang surcharges? Is it because we are better looking and more concerned with pleasing the girls?.My assumption is the reason is the same everywhere. Tourists and farangs have different perception of real (local) costs and providers will think they will not check these too.
WG and MP know that their prices are very cheap compared to the equivalent services back our home. So they add the farang surcharge: added value for them and a sort of small acceptable overcharge for the farang, in their POV.
This applies to many services, not only sexual.
My assumption is the reason is the same everywhere. Tourists and farangs have different perception of real (local) costs and providers will think they will not check these too.
WG and MP know that their prices are very cheap compared to the equivalent services back our home. So they add the farang surcharge: added value for them and a sort of small acceptable overcharge for the farang, in their POV.
This applies to many services, not only sexual.Well, if they really knew the state of our Farang economies, they would be charging us less!
Peace guys Peace!
Since when did we start discriminating like the Thais and Thai Girls? (we all know they are racists)
We are all here to enjoy our time with the lovely ladies, in return for our money.
So I see this argument as absolutely unwarranted for.I don't think there is any anger here, just spirited discussion. But, yes you are correct, let's get back to talking about fun.
Well, if they really knew the state of our Farang economies, they would be charging us less!You are pretty much right, ah ah ah
But if we can afford to travel all the way, pay plane fares, hotel rooms, what's the difference, in their eyes, in some +10/20€ a day (and that in some cases means a +50% overcharge)?
We overdiscussed the price issues, so no need to get again into it, but true the debate often turns around 2-3 €!
Tony Hoeprano
02-12-12, 23:39
Hi Guys.
I remember, I went to a fish-bowl-like place close to Beergarten (great place) last time where you could sit and observe the girls before choosing a number. Great!
Unfortunately, one was not allowed to spank the little monkey while observing. Is there a chance for finding a place that allows that in BKK (or even Pat)?LOL at spanking the monkey in front of fishbowls. Did you actually try to spank your monkey right in front of papasan / mamasan? Hahahahaahaha. I think they would take that as a serious "loss of face". I guess you could offer them a considerable amount of baht if that's really your thing. Although, I doubt the other patrons would enjoy your behavior lol
You are pretty much right, ah ah ah
But if we can afford to travel all the way, pay plane fares, hotel rooms, what's the difference, in their eyes, in some +10/20€ a day (and that in some cases means a +50% overcharge)?
We overdiscussed the price issues, so no need to get again into it, but true the debate often turns around 2-3 €!Actually I don't. I live here in LOS. Have for 12 years!
Member #2453
02-13-12, 06:27
With more then 31 visits to Bangkok in the log since 2001, and when I start thinking I know every trick in the bar girls book, I did get a surprise after a long time.
Visited Shark Last Friday, after a few beers, and scanning the available talent, zeroed in on a pretty lady who seem to be a little withdrawn with not many smiles, signaled her to join, after a few drinks and with the help of the waitress, It was known that her name is Wan, English was almost zero, from BuriRam, has a 4 year old kid and she is 22, after 2 LDs she was feeling quite comfortable with me a was smiling much more then before, agreed for a ST 2000, comes back in Jeans a very elegant looking long top,
Walking out of Shark towards little Italy for a pizza, I see the mamasa who I know for quite sometime on soi cowboy first at Dejavu then Sahara now standing outside RIO, she calls out my name and asks me to come in for a drink, so ask wan if its ok if we can have a drink (all sign language and my 10 word thai vocabulary) she gives a big smile and a nod and we have a beer in Rio and the mamasa has a chat with her and translates a few things, she is new to Bangkok, one month in the bar etc. I tell the mamasa at Rio that I have agreed for a ST with wan, but to ask her if it would be OK to have a pizza on our way to the hotel or she needs to go to the hotel and then go back to where ever she wants to. It was OK with Wan to have pizza first and by the time we finished our pizza and reached Maduzi, it was almost 2 hours since we were out of Shark.
She like the room, spend some time in that lovely Jacuzzi the Hotel Maduzi has, a very nice BBBJ, and some quality sex, after the deed I shower come back to bed, she goes to the bath room showers and is back sitting on the edge still in her towel, I reach to the bedside table where I have put some money, take out 2000 and hand it over to her, she takes it give a very sad / passionate / sensual stare (difficult to forget that stare) puts the money on the bed side table, throws here towel to the chair, slide under the comforter, cuddle and sleeps, wake at around noon, good round two, go out for lunch to terminal 21, I do some small window shopping for myself and ask her to pick a few things for herself which she doesn't, just smiles. Back to the room, around 5pm, a short nap with BBBJCIM finish, freshen up, Now I was just wondering if I have to go back to mamasa at Rio and help translate what was going on and how much money Wan needed, then I thought let me just go with the flow, we walk all the way from Asok to Nana, hit a few bars at Nana, then the nana disco then a very late night dinner at the nana hotel, back by taxi to the hotel, round one for the night and one more round around midday, lunch at the same place in terminal21 as she liked the food there, back to the hotel and I start packing, as I had a flight at 8:30 evening and had to leave the hotel by 5, then sign language communication, and she understands I'm leaving now, all the smiles disappear in a second and she is just sitting on the chair and watching me pack, then a few hugs, I take the 2000 still lying on the table, to be fair to the lady add 6000 more and hand it to the lady, she just nods and doesn't want to accept it. So at the first chance I slip it into here purse when she is in the bathroom putting on her makeup.
We are in the small lobby of the hotel waiting for taxi, for the first time with all tears in her eyes she pulls out a small book from her purse, writes something in Thai hands it over to me with still tears rolling down her eyes. A big kiss and we have the taxi there, say good bye and I'm off to the airport.
I'm yet to understand what really happened. Can someone kindly translate the attached note for me please.
Finally after planning for 3 months and after having asked a few dozen questions on this board, here is how my trip went.
Landed at airport around 7. 30 PM and headed for sukhumvit 23 in a taxi. 500 bahths. Stayed at Admiral Premier Hotel. Excellent hotel for mongering. Headed out around 10 PM for Thermae bar to cheked out freelancers. The bar had over 50 girls, some outside the door. Over 90% customers were Japanese and were the only ones who the girls were interested in. It is one of th emost ridicuolous mongering scene I have come across with plently of fake smiles and silly nodding of heads. Spoke to two girls who asked for 2000 for ST but since there was hardly any stunner there, decided to take some rest and slept alone. Thermae in my opinion is a waste of time as most girls are interested in japanese only plus it is silly in my opinion to stare at girls and wait fo rthem to smile to start the conversation.
Next day headed to Mango for massage. My friend instantly fell for bebe, a little chubby. 20 something with nice natural rack while I picked up who I thought was Por but was Bo infact. Of course Bo's service is simply 10/10, she is a wizard of her craft. Just perfect 10/10 massage and sex. Silicones though. Friend was meanwhile floored by bebe and had a 10/10 session with her and was very pleased to be in Bangkok.
In the evening we headed to Baccara in SC around 8. 30. Things were looking awesome, lots of dancing girls on stage. Most were below 22 I think, many fair complexioned but several from Isaan too. Way too loud though. Had to buy drinks pretty early but there was no LD pressure or mamasan drink crap. Dance upstairs by topless girls wearing no panties ontransparent floor is something one has to check at least once. Almost all girls upstaiers had bolt ons. Spotted at least 4/5 very good looking young girls downstairs and beckoned one of them to come over but somehow in the confusion, the girl next to her landed on our lap. Lady drink blah blah and we decided to walk out as it was rather cumbersome to pick a girl, negotitate and move on for boom boom.
Went to Thermae and quality was no so great. About 60 girls but only 1 or 2 good looking girls who seemed indifferent. The whole scene was begining to look ridiculous and meanwhile we were becoming a bit frustrated as it was past 11. 30 PM and we needed some shut eye as well. Walked away after having decided to never come back to Thermae again and were stopped by a feelancer on sukhumvit road. She came staright to the point, I want to go with you. 1000 be each and we were off to races. Out of of this world session with her, she was able to handle both of us simulataneously very well and even DP was on on the menu. OMG. Was a bit full bodies, small be cup with long nipples. Had great time with her before sending her away after 2 AM. Said she is semi pro, works in a construction company as accountant during the day and does little extra work before going home in the night. Looks like we were rather very lucky.
Next day over to Snow white and while friend picked up Bonus, a very slim girl with a cup from a line up of only 4 girls, I went to mango for bebe. Bebe was indeed awesome in the bed and let me lick her for close to 40 miniutes. OMFG. Session was 9/10, needs a bit of improvement in oral section but otherwise sex was 10/10. Girls lik eher are a staple at Mango but rare outside. Was a mind blowing session and gor the good news for from friend that his session with Bonus was a 2 pop, cim, full hardcore sex. 10/10 as well. Marvellous.
In the evening we went to Rajah hotel coffee bar around 7. 30. It was a rather sad looking place with about 10-12 russians and uzbekis. 2/3 were good looking. Same silly smiling at each other blah blah which we were not very nterested in so headed out to Nana. Did not like Nana plaza a bit as it is too crowded, too old, too congested, too shabby and over run by lady boys. I don't want to look at anyone if I more than half are lady boys. Also somehow soemthig told me that this complex can't be safe in case of fire or earthquake and headed back to SC on foot from Nana. Plenty of freelancers on the way, some lady boys but mostly not so good looking girls. We were attracted to one girl standing near bus stop. 30ish, fair skin, a bit full body, be cups. Briefest discussion, quoted 600 be for ST! (I think she was floored by our looks and wanted to have sex with her at any cost. LOL) Who could have said no to menage a trois for 1200 baht so wasted no time in reaching hotel and once again, boy o boy, what an awesome session it was, well make that 2 sessions in 4 hours. She di not want to go home and kept on talking to us telling lot about herself, her disspointments in life, her sob story, her dreams for future etc. Was very loud during sex and we actually had to turn on TV fearing the knock from other rooms. She really loved being licked in downtown region and had more fun with us than we had with her! Left her number with with us before leaving and requested us to call her next night as well.
Third and last day: Decided to do some sight seeing and shopping. Headed to Grace hotel around 3 PM. Few uzbekis and central stans girls, not too nice looking though. The good thing was they were aggressive and waved or said hellow as sson as we would walk by, unlike that BS Thermae bar where girls just smile or look un-interested. Did not like anyone in particular so decided to take it easy and call the freelancer from previous night. She arrived at 7 PM and was with us till 1 AM. I wanted to get some sleep for our 7 AM flight but again she just wanted one more session after first and of course more licking please! Oh God I luv Bangkok. Once again we had very good sessions and time with her, promised to see her next year hopefully and wished her all the best in her quest for a non Thai boy friend for life. Hwr perfect skin, solid appetite for sex and sucking and honest heart to heart discussion will stay in our memory for rest of our lives. Not to mention what a bargain it was for mere 600 bahts per person. Of course we paid her a lot more.
So this is it friends. Thanks a lot for helping me out with your thoughtful replies. I certainly could not have done it without your help.
Lets continue to stick to the main topic that we are here for and avoid those nonsense, childish, uncivilized personal jabs that some on this Thailand forum are particularly active in. If we seek love let it be reflected in our words and then hopefully, plenty of love is what will be found in our activities as well.
Amen.
Just a small foot note that Rainbow4 is now offcially not allowing Indians and Arabs in the bar. I guess it goes for other dark skinned persons. The usual BS of members only w.
As thrown at me but I asked the guard gently if it is because of Indian factor and he politely said Yes, Sorry. No problemo for me but just a warning to others.
Cheers
Mr Enternational
02-13-12, 06:54
Very interesting! A bit looney in my humble opinion. THis pleasing of the prostitute must be explored-you do you know the girls see us as customers!I was fucking a SW in Chiang Mai the other night. She kept asking,"Why you not finish?" I gave my usual answer that I was waiting for her to finish first. She said,"No. I never finish with customer."
Actually I don't. I live here in LOS. Have for 12 years!For all the impending geriatrics living full-time in Thailand when they can't afford to get what they want in their homeland or in other, better places is an alternative for a lot of people who haven't had the success to be able to do so. Nuthin wrong with that.
Yes, the Farang expects a certain level of service. And many Asian customers will take whatever they are given.I wonder if that's true. If you think about it, Japanese porn is way over the top compared to western porn. And as you mentioned yourself, they often think of the girls in a bad way (worse than most westerners who usually just feel sorry for them). Are you sure they are then so mild-mannered in bed?
Freelance Clubs- After 2Am.Add Bossy and Spicy to your list.
I will be staying at the Renaissance near Chitlom BTS and fellow members have said that it is in fact girl friendly, the security guards are more interested in checking bags and items then who you bring into the hotel. Let me know if that is different.I confirm it is girl friendly, and a great hotel to boot.
Good people of the Bangkok forum.
- Soapy massages. Again a must do and looking for suggestions on favourites or areas of greatest number of establishments.I have found Emmanuelle to be one of the best. It is not as expensive as some, but consistently good quality. Although sometimes, there isn't a great variety to choose from.
MM
Very interesting! A bit looney in my humble opinion. THis pleasing of the prostitute must be explored-you do you know the girls see us as customers!Dude, of course I know that. Now, when I do a job, I get paid, but that does not mean I cannot enjoy my work. If the gal has fun, you are more likely to as well. I have found over the years that fewer and fewer gals want to enjoy the act, in that case it becomes all about me, which is why I prefer the oilies. Those gals that don't enjoy what they do need to find another line of work!
I wonder if that's true. If you think about it, Japanese porn is way over the top compared to western porn. And as you mentioned yourself, they often think of the girls in a bad way (worse than most westerners who usually just feel sorry for them). Are you sure they are then so mild-mannered in bed?Having lived in Japan a long while the standard of Japanese service is much higher than the US and Thailand! I often wished I could the level of service I normally get in Japan in Thailand. Japan is a service based society, and not stickly about the dollar\yen.
AmericanThief
02-13-12, 15:00
I've been to Thailand 7 times. I've been to Japan 5 times. I like Thailand because I can seduce non working girls. I can't seduce normal Japanese girls anymore. The P4P girls in Thailand are good, but the P4P girls in Japan are better. They're sexier, younger with no kids, glassy soft skin and know the customer's expectations.
And to compare costs, ST with a Japanese soapy girl isn't much more than short time with a Thai go-go girl. Its the other expenditures that make Japan difficult.
Tony Hoeprano
02-13-12, 15:35
I've been to Thailand 7 times. I've been to Japan 5 times. I like Thailand because I can seduce non working girls. I can't seduce normal Japanese girls anymore. The P4P girls in Thailand are good, but the P4P girls in Japan are better. They're sexier, younger with no kids, glassy soft skin and know the customer's expectations.
And to compare costs, ST with a Japanese soapy girl isn't much more than short time with a Thai go-go girl. Its the other expenditures that make Japan difficult.Why can't you seduce normal Japanese girls anymore? I hear they're easy.
Traveler1234
02-13-12, 15:58
Yes, the Farang expects a certain level of service. And many Asian customers will take whatever they are given. For Farang there is no "face" at issue, just a good time.Excuse me. Some old nob expect a level of service?
Compare the girls Asians take vs what a farang takes and make that comment again. I called you a dumb racist but that's too much a compliment. You're just an asshole.
Having lived in Japan a long while the standard of Japanese service is much higher than the US and Thailand! I often wished I could the level of service I normally get in Japan in Thailand. Japan is a service based society, and not stickly about the dollar\yen.What is it about the Japanese service that makes you say it is "much higher" standard? I find that Thai ladies I've met are more likely to be submissive than Canadian sex workers. They are also more likely to provide BB services, but I've heard the Japanese are sticklers for condom sex. Payment after the fact is another important point for me as regards Siam SWs, and I'd expect almost everything related to sex tourism in Japan is more expensive than LOS. OTOH I find that there is nothing that beats the porn and lovely slim white ladies of northern Asia.
Excuse me. Some old nob expect a level of service?
Compare the girls Asians take vs what a farang takes and make that comment again. I called you a dumb racist but that's too much a compliment. You're just an asshole.Excuse me, we are not into flaming or name calling on this board. You have no idea who I am, what my age is, or what my tastes or for that matter what my race is. I simply said that the service expectations of Farangs and Asians tend to be different. As other posters have stated, for better or worse Farangs tend to complain when they consider bad service and Asians tend to move on and try again, and yes, the concept of face enters into it. And, the better looking a gal is the less she needs to provide service wise to make a living as she can be a complete starfish and make it on looks alone. Please read the posts before you fly off the handle.
Traveler1234
02-13-12, 18:54
. As other posters have stated, for better or worse Farangs tend to complain when they consider bad service and Asians tend to move on and try again, and yes, the concept of face enters into it.Do you read Asian forums or blogs similar to ISG? Otherwise, how would you know whether or not they do or do not complain?
ISG is primarily for 'westerners', those who are comfortable with the English language. If you ever read some of the SE Asian sites [names won't be mention as Jackson would not like it], you'd see 'asians' complain as much as any other males do. If you read the japanese blogs, trust me, they expect nothing short of top service.
Your comments are no different than the 3/3/3 japanese jokes that pop up every so often.
Do you read Asian forums or blogs similar to ISG? Otherwise, how would you know whether or not they do or do not complain?
ISG is primarily for 'westerners', those who are comfortable with the English language. If you ever read some of the SE Asian sites [names won't be mention as Jackson would not like it], you'd see 'asians' complain as much as any other males do. If you read the japanese blogs, trust me, they expect nothing short of top service.
Your comments are no different than the 3/3/3 japanese jokes that pop up every so often.Yes, everyone complains on the boards, and I have read many of the others, but Farangs are far more likely to complain to the girl about bad service and perhaps not pay on the agreed amount as there is no loss of "face" in losing your temper. Again, I am not placing judgement, nor casting aspersions, just stating facts. Most of my information does not come from the "boards." It comes from the experience of living and doing business in Asia for the past 12 years.
How are my comments no different from the 3/3/3? In fact, how do you know that I am not part Asian?
Having lived in Japan a long while the standard of Japanese service is much higher than the US and Thailand! I often wished I could the level of service I normally get in Japan in Thailand. Japan is a service based society, and not stickly about the dollar\yen.Have concluded similar. Agree with you. In Thailand, Indonesia and wherever the Japanese have set up outposts, you can find girls they've 'trained' and who deliver the top quality service. The Nippons, however, somewhat try to control access to these clubs and girls. Gross farang career military enlistee type.
Good luck getting in.
While I have to agree with on the cost of Thailand is less expensive than Japan, it is Japan, and Tokyo is one of the most expensive cities to live in.
The averange encounter with a working girl in Japan ranges from about 6000 Baht to 8000 Baht for about one hour. So I do agree with you that Thailand is a cheaper
Option, but what you are getting in Japan is the same level service all the time. There is no guess work in it. You want to kiss? They are going to kiss, you want to 69, they are going to 69, you want to shower together. Etc. With Thai girls I find you almost have to have them fill out a resume to find out what they will or will not when you get them back to your room. At least when you have a Japanese girl come to your hotel you already what she is going to do, it's stated on the web site and addintional options if you so desire. I am not debating which place is better, I have fun in both. I just find that about 1 in 10 Thai girls preform like 9 of 10 Japanese girls.
I disagree with Rodmanjs assertion. I live in Japan as well and have tried many different options here in Osaka. You are not guaranteed sex in the normal sense of penetration. In Thailand you are almost 100% going to get that. Japan is more expensive and hit and miss. The RLDs here are your best bet but it's usually 4000 baht for 15 mins for one of the main street hot girls. You will get laid properly IF they accept a non Japanese. This is half the problem in japan. Non Japanese are not widely accepted.
Back to BKK issues. How is Baccara of late? I didn't get there last year. Instead went to Suzie Wongs. How much is the usual bar fine? (just trying to get back to the topic of BKK)
Why do you think all the Japanese are coming to Thailand? More girls, less hassle, better service, more GFE, cheaper prices for girls, food, hotels, transportation, etc. They are not even close for mongering.
PS: Watch some Japan porn sometime. They lay there starfish and screech the whole time. Non performers.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.4 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.