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Traveler1234
02-14-12, 00:46
PS: Watch some Japan porn sometime. They lay there starfish and screech the whole time. Non performers.
No disrespect intended but this is hilarious!. That's how you reached the conclusion? By watching porn - have you ever had Japanese pussy?
LOL
No disrespect intended but this is hilarious. That's how you reached the conclusion? By watching porn. Have you ever had Japanese pussy?
LOLYes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.
Why do you think all the Japanese are coming to Thailand? More girls, less hassle, better service, more GFE, cheaper prices for girls, food, hotels, transportation, etc. They are not even close for mongering.Because the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Because variety is the spice of life.
But cheaper? Not a reason except for the lowlifes with lack of coin. You are projecting your own situation 'pus.
Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.Sick and tired to read posts about Japan from guys who have never set foot on the island. So you know all about japanese women because you watch some socalled Japan porn in HK! Pathetic. As an anecdote, the hottest ever sex romp I have had in my all life, and I am 60 +, and quite a number on the board, has been with a japanese woman. I draw no general conclusions from this, but just a fact.
Why are you all so obsessed with Japan on the BKK forum? Frustrated to see "small dick" japanese guys taking your hot babes away? Well, get used to it, it is likely to get worse before it gets better.
As it happens, I was in BKK last week and in Tokyo now. Love both countries, and the different opportunities they have to offer. No need to make silly comparisons. Better report what happens in one in the releant thread and move on to the next thread. BTW, there are far less comments about BKK on the Tokyo thread than the reverse.
And last, can we leave aside all those useless ethnic stereotypes, about bad Asians, smelly Indians, Nigerians crooks, arrogant farangs an the like? I have met arrogant, smelly, nasty people from all races.
Sick and tired to read posts about Japan from guys who have never set foot on the island. So you know all about japanese women because you watch some socalled Japan porn in HK! Pathetic. As an anecdote, the hottest ever sex romp I have had in my all life, and I am 60 +, and quite a number on the board, has been with a japanese woman. I draw no general conclusions from this, but just a fact.I started going to Japan with the US Navy in 1978, and was stationed there for 3 years in the early 2000s. I echo your thoughts on every facet. Some people don't have a fucking clue what they are talking about! But yet, they tend to voice their silly ass comparisons, even though they are clueless; go figure.
Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.If I had judged Thai women based on services received from Thai girls in the West, for instance FRA RDL, I would never have been to Thailand.
Managed to get a 24h break on my way to Tokyo.
Landed at 8 am, and was out in 20 min thanks to fast track Thai Airways roYal silk channel.
Checked in at LL at 9, and went for a nap to recover from a short 4h night flight.
Then went to Tulip, hoping to find Pond, as per Fon tok recommendation. Sadly, she would not be availbale for the next 2-3 hours, so I had to abandon her and moved on. Then to Mango, where I took Cat. Report about this good, if not outstanging, expereince already posted.
Then time to recover, and I always do, a fuly legit tradutional Thai massage place, CEFLE, in the alley in front of LL. Super 2 hours massage by highly skilled and trained masseuse for 400 Bht.
The I walked down the Suk to the Biergarden, for a meal. Watched the Premiership surrounded by a few highly alcohol fuelled farangs. To my surpirse, there were a few hot babes there, but I was not yet ready.
Then went to NEP. Nothing much, I never liked it, so moved on to Cow boy, with the view, to do a bit of bar hooping. Went first into Rawhide, and was surprised to see all girls dancing fully naked. But none really stunning. However, a cute short one kept on smiling at me and came to sit with me. Just chated, did not ask for anyithng.
Just as explanation here: I am 60 + and my policy when picking girls is always to let them choose me rather that the opposite. So, I am sure that the grils does not dislike going with old men. I call this strategy@passive hunting@, I just smile to whichever girl I fancy, and if she is interested enough, she will let me know in a way or another. This works well for me, be it in an FKK, or in any club setting.
Some girls, even young, like old men, and those are the one I try finding. Once in Tijuana, at the HK club, for those who know, there were around 100 dancing gils and as many males. Suddenly one of the hottest yound babe spots me and rushes to me, and give me a fantastic, unsolicited lap dance, even before we exchanged a word. Anyway, I took her@arriba@and had one the best sex of my life. I was about to ask her what really made her choose me in stead of any of those many good looking youn gringos. But she gave me the answer herself before I could even ask by saying that her other job is being a nurse, specialised in. Geriatry! Not a joke! My good luck, she loved taking care of old people, and my God, she did, to the point that I parted from my usual srategy which is to never repeat, and went again with her the following day.
ANyway, back to BKK, and Rawhide bar. Since my little Thai woman and I clicked, and seemed very haslle-free, I decided not to waste time, BF her and took her LT. We did not talk money before she was about to leave. And she never took her cell phone out, not swittched on theTV. Bless her.
And for those (reference to older posts) who thinks that WGs can't be religious, she warned me that she would have to go by 8 am, because she had to go to church by 9 am.
We had the usual GFE night and morning sessions, with a good sleep in between next to a curvy, cuddly, natural real woman. Just what the doctor ordered. (I am my own physician.)
Breakfast and taxi to the airport.
All together. 24h well spent, for a total, taxi, entertainment, girls, meals and hotel of around 7500 bth, withut trying to save.
And last, can we leave aside all those useless ethnic stereotypes, about bad Asians, smelly Indians, Nigerians crooks, arrogant farangs an the like? I have met arrogant, smelly, nasty people from all races.You want to take away all the fun. :D
Very often the stereotype fits perfectly.
Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.Just as somebody pointed out that thai girls in european RLD are not eprfomring thebest service, it might be that japanese girls in US and HKG are on the same strategy.
They are chosen for being exotic (first) , more than for service (second). Just as the stunners often do not deliver too since they are appealing to customers for the look and they have enough customers, whilst a less beautifyl one has to win the customer and deliver a good service.
Traveler1234
02-14-12, 13:51
I am 60 +From one 60+ to another, nice report.
Hi Gents,
Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.
Member #2453
02-14-12, 14:44
Could anyone translate this note from a shark lady.
Traveler1234
02-14-12, 17:41
I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc.Search chinatown
Could anyone translate this note from a shark lady.It says.
"Mama told me to come home this evening. I come back to Bangkok later in the month and I will wait for you."
Sick and tired to read posts about Japan from guys who have never set foot on the island. So you know all about japanese women because you watch some socalled Japan porn in HK! Pathetic. As an anecdote, the hottest ever sex romp I have had in my all life, and I am 60 +, and quite a number on the board, has been with a japanese woman. I draw no general conclusions from this, but just a fact.
Why are you all so obsessed with Japan on the BKK forum? Frustrated to see "small dick" japanese guys taking your hot babes away? Well, get used to it, it is likely to get worse before it gets better.
As it happens, I was in BKK last week and in Tokyo now. Love both countries, and the different opportunities they have to offer. No need to make silly comparisons. Better report what happens in one in the releant thread and move on to the next thread. BTW, there are far less comments about BKK on the Tokyo thread than the reverse.
And last, can we leave aside all those useless ethnic stereotypes, about bad Asians, smelly Indians, Nigerians crooks, arrogant farangs an the like? I have met arrogant, smelly, nasty people from all races.Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?
I am wrong. Japan women are the greatest in the world. Much better than Thai lady. The mongering is plentiful and full GFE. It truly sounds like a wonderful place. Everyone should go there and have a great time. Maybe even go into the Japan forum and try to convince all the Japan men coming to Thailand that this is the case. Good luck. Thanks for the info.
I will be looking forward to reading the Tokyo forum about the great time you had.
Hi Gents,
Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.Matri Chit Road; 5 minutes from the central railway station. Lots of prostitutes at the end of the street towards the roundabout. Late afternoon.
HotShaneHot
02-14-12, 20:57
Hi Gents,
Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.Ok dirt cheap. Not ashamed to have encounters in parks.
Try looking up the Pattaya reports. Way back. An look for a place know as the woods I think it is just what you are looking for.
One member hear had an encounter there and she just take a bottle of water! All you can have for about 200 Thai Bart about $6. 50 aud
Have fun an look it up.
Traveler1234
02-14-12, 21:52
Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.
We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.OK, Finally, that is what I am looking for. A man who is not so serious and has a sense of humor! I love it. HAHA. Thanks
Tony Hoeprano
02-14-12, 22:39
Just as somebody pointed out that thai girls in european RLD are not eprfomring thebest service, it might be that japanese girls in US and HKG are on the same strategy.
They are chosen for being exotic (first) , more than for service (second). Just as the stunners often do not deliver too since they are appealing to customers for the look and they have enough customers, whilst a less beautifyl one has to win the customer and deliver a good service.I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA
I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".
In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.
When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.
One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!
So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.
What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.
So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.
I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USACheck out Humaniplex, ******** and MyRedbook. They are 3 popular sites here in California. The girls are not like that at all. Most are very attractive and young. They usually charge from $160-$240 an hour. These girls are brought in from places like Thailand, China and yes, Japan on short work Visas. Most cannot speak much English.
I have always had great experiences with the Thais and Chinese girls.
Wolvenvacht
02-15-12, 00:34
I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USAIn Belgium the standard price for Thai massage is 80 EUR / hr and that includes a body-to-body massage and happy ending either a HJ or BBBJ and some do CIM too for the same price. FS is rarely offered though.
I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".
In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.
When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.
One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!
So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.
What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.
So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.Very well stated. Stereotypes develop for a reason, but we need to remember that there are always exceptions to the rule.
I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
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Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.You should really post more.
Excellent report, and I enjoyed your 2 cents.
From one 60+ to another, nice report.Thanks.
Maybe we should have our own thread, something like "old farts" or so? Just joking.
Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?
I am wrong. Japan women are the greatest in the world. Much better than Thai lady. The mongering is plentiful and full GFE. It truly sounds like a wonderful place. Everyone should go there and have a great time. Maybe even go into the Japan forum and try to convince all the Japan men coming to Thailand that this is the case. Good luck. Thanks for the info.
I will be looking forward to reading the Tokyo forum about the great time you had.If you had read my post (s) , you would have noticed that I never suggested superiority of any group over nother. I actually like both thai and japanese (and other women). I prefectly accept and understand that many guys like most Thai women, and was naively thinking that the same would apply to my personal taste for japanse women. It is absurd to suggest that one ethnic group of women are superioir to another, (except for those sharing racist ideology). But not you, of course.
Why is this paranoid comment about Japan coming in to this thread, I don't know.
Be my guest and visit the Japan threads, but, please, do not post there, and start comparisons with God knows who. We, in the Japan thread, are a nice group of people interested in sharing info on japan, so don't come and pollute it, thanks in advance. And continue enjoying Thailand, in spite of the invasion of small yellow men taking away your hottes babes
We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.No no, I am not just a Nigerain crook, I am quarter arrogant Frenchman, quarter smelly Indian, quarter small dick Jap, and quarter nigerian.
Now the one million dollar question: what is the size of my (crooked) penis?
I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".
In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.
When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.
One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!
So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.
What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.
So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.Very well written and very true.
Problem with stereotypes is not what they say, but what some wicked people use them for.
I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USAWe all know that and the mongerer price police tries to discourage this practice of overpaying (by the local standards) as anyhow it is a fraction of the home bill.
I don't agree with price police as at the end it is my money and my entertainment.
In addition, the influence that (ISG) price police can have on the broader range of mongerers in BKK (or elsewhere) is unsignificant and their effect is irrelevant.
Given the thousands of mongerers in Thailand (but this apply to each country, of course) and the few hundreds being here, one can see that the influence. Even if successful at a rate of 80% is really worthless to the price standards (set by the mongerers)
Having said that it is always good to know what the others are paying.
A) to set yourself a cost of a decent limit and an orientation idea.
Be) pay more but in awareness you are doing so, if you decided to do so, aiming also to a top service.
See) try to stay within the local reasonable pricing, aware that a bit more is the "farang surcharge" they try to grab and if a few bucks make them happy. Better than hard negotiations ending nowhere (even if it is also proved soem girls accept the mongerer price and then are still happy troopers)
The) not appear as a cheap charlie as that is not always the best recipe for quality.
As someone said, if you take holidays and want to have fun. Don't be a cheap charlie just for the sake of collecting many girls on the low price level and exhibit that as a trophee.
Whilst overpayer are said to be destroying the market also cheap charlies are damaging the market as that becomes then the standrd the girls think we farang are.
So there wil lbe a battle between those who pay the less money and those who deliver the lowest service.
Nothing to tell home about.
Hotman 666
02-15-12, 17:06
Thanks.
Maybe we should have our own thread, something like "old farts" or so? Just joking.Hmmmmm, not a bad idea!
I would read & post, IF, as an 'Old Fart' myself, I could remember that it was there!
Now where did I put my reading glasses?
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Wolvenvacht
02-15-12, 19:33
The farangs go for the ulgy girls and the japs the pretty ones.I think it is more the truth to say that farang and Japanese have different ideas about beauty. I am quite pleased I do not have to compete with them for my Isan-dolls. I will gladly leave all the white and skinny screaming starfish for them.
Traveler1234
02-15-12, 19:35
This inferiority thing farangs have towards japs is real and unexplainable here.There is an explanation. The relative cost for mongering, etc. Is much higher in Japan [as is true in Korea and lesser extent Taiwan] so they will flock over to LOS and other countries with deeper pockets. What they would drop per night drinking would alone be enough for most of us on ISG to pay for a couple of girls on LT basis. This 'drives' the price up for non Japanese, thus the 'inferiority'.
In rainbow 4 they mix together and all seems well. The farangs go for the ulgy girls and the japs the pretty ones.LOL. All the girls know the japanese will pay more.
I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.This is not a bad experience. This is the norm here in Japan. Half the time the bouncers / male staff will just make an X symbol with their arms and say no. The other half they will tell you sorry no entry for you.
Quite a while ago I went to Angel massage and had Ann. It was great because she rarely got picked by whities. And maybe due to mainly serving Japanese but she was tight! Nice big fake tits too!
Tony Hoeprano
02-15-12, 23:11
Yes, just as when I'm looking to purchase a new or used car, I will try to find a fair price range that I should be paying for a certain car model, all dependent on make, model, year, and condition. In fact the ISG can be thought of as the Kelly Blue Book for working girls LOL.
also on a side note, it was nice to see that idiot on Soi 71 blow off both his legs, poetic justice almost.
be safe out there
We all know that and the mongerer price police tries to discourage this practice of overpaying (by the local standards) as anyhow it is a fraction of the home bill.
I don't agree with price police as at the end it is my money and my entertainment.
In addition, the influence that (ISG) price police can have on the broader range of mongerers in BKK (or elsewhere) is unsignificant and their effect is irrelevant.
Given the thousands of mongerers in Thailand (but this apply to each country, of course) and the few hundreds being here, one can see that the influence. Even if successful at a rate of 80% is really worthless to the price standards (set by the mongerers)
Having said that it is always good to know what the others are paying.
A) to set yourself a cost of a decent limit and an orientation idea.
Be) pay more but in awareness you are doing so, if you decided to do so, aiming also to a top service.
See) try to stay within the local reasonable pricing, aware that a bit more is the "farang surcharge" they try to grab and if a few bucks make them happy. Better than hard negotiations ending nowhere (even if it is also proved soem girls accept the mongerer price and then are still happy troopers)
The) not appear as a cheap charlie as that is not always the best recipe for quality.
As someone said, if you take holidays and want to have fun. Don't be a cheap charlie just for the sake of collecting many girls on the low price level and exhibit that as a trophee.
Whilst overpayer are said to be destroying the market also cheap charlies are damaging the market as that becomes then the standrd the girls think we farang are.
So there wil lbe a battle between those who pay the less money and those who deliver the lowest service.
Nothing to tell home about.
I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.Same in Korea but the answer is because they are more attractive consumers than most in every sense of the word.
Same in Korea but the answer is because they are more attractive consumers than most in every sense of the word.Don't feel bad, my friends who are Japanese-Americans (3rd and 4th generation) are treated the same way as the rest of us by the Japanese Only clubs.
AssLover945
02-16-12, 03:59
At a friend's recommendation, I went to this place called "Relax Beauty"
It is located in the first sub soi of soi 33 on the right hand side.
It is at the deep end of the soi, infact the last shop to the right.
Had a nice chest and back waxing, pedicure, manicure all for 1000 Bahts!
Next time I am going to try their brazilian waxing, all for 500 bahts for men.
The ladies were very attentive,
Seems to be having an equal number of women and men customers,
Saw a few japanese men too.
Normal thai, oil massages and foot massages were also available.
Overall a very good relaxing 2 hours spent and pampered myself for all of 1000 Bahts.
There is an explanation. The relative cost for mongering, etc. Is much higher in Japan [as is true in Korea and lesser extent Taiwan] so they will flock over to LOS and other countries with deeper pockets. What they would drop per night drinking would alone be enough for most of us on ISG to pay for a couple of girls on LT basis. This 'drives' the price up for non Japanese, thus the 'inferiority'.Japanese have historically help ruin every working girl scene they've touched! It's just the way it is. I guess there has to be at least one weak link in the chain.
Japanese have historically help ruin every working girl scene they've touched! It's just the way it is. I guess there has to be at least one weak link in the chain.Of course the price is just one aspect, but not really the most important one. Style is the other and perhaps the most important. Take Thermae for example. Used to be a very fun place. Girls would be dancing by the jukebox, drinking, approaching customers, grabbing them, flirting, and generally having fun. It was a party atmosphere every night. Now, it is like a bad junior high dance with the guys on one side and the girls lined up on the wall. Very little interaction. The guys walk past them like they are checking out a piece of meat at the grocery store and many times don't say a word. So, the "fun" element has gone. That is the change that has turned me off.
This is not a bad experience. This is the norm here in Japan. Half the time the bouncers / male staff will just make an X symbol with their arms and say no. The other half they will tell you sorry no entry for you.
Quite a while ago I went to Angel massage and had Ann. It was great because she rarely got picked by whities. And maybe due to mainly serving Japanese but she was tight! Nice big fake tits too!Same is true in the "Japanese only" clubs in BKK. BTW, there are no clubs that refuse entry to Japanese. Guess when all are allowed in all the "Japanese only" clubs we will stop complaining about the effect the Japanese have had on the fun and the market in BKK!
This is not a bad experience. This is the norm here in Japan. Half the time the bouncers / male staff will just make an X symbol with their arms and say no. The other half they will tell you sorry no entry for you.A few years back in Tokyo I tried going into a porno shop and was told Only Japanese. Getting turned down by a porno shop? How low on the evolutionary scale do they think we are?
Tony Hoeprano
02-16-12, 06:50
A few years back in Tokyo I tried going into a porno shop and was told Only Japanese. Getting turned down by a porno shop? How low on the evolutionary scale do they think we are?Next time, pull up your pants and hide the duct tape and knife, son.
Was out and about last night for a bit, wondering the old haunts on lower Suk and was not surprised to find nothing taking my fancy. Very few, if any, attractive free lancers about and even Thermae was not that great.
One of the things that some of us tend to overlook is the increased opportunities for people in Thailand. You see "help wanted" signs everywhere and many bar and restaurant owners cannot find staff. Same is true in many companies here. Thailand is what we would call in the West, at full employment, or as close as you can get.
I believe this has a huge effect on the mongering scene. As salaries have increased there is far less need to go out and "rent the body" in order to make ends meet. Venues that used to pack these part-timers in are now filled with ragged out regulars and dregs. The "scene" has changed.
In 99 when I moved here, Thailand was still reeling from the Asian crisis and the haunts were full of great looking girls eager to please and make a buck. Fast forward 12 years and throw in a social order crackdown, a coup, social unrest, a good employment market, and changing demographics in the Lower Suk area and we are dealing with a far different world for the monger. Ten years ago I could not walk 10 meters without seeing a doinkable gal, now it is rare that I see even one on a nightly foray. Times are a changin' and there is nothing we can do but roll with it.
Thank God for Oilies!
And call it the anti japanese thread. One full page and almost nothing on the BKK scene, just used and well known cliches endlessly repeated. Do you just alldo "Japanese watching" when in BKK, or do you sometimes monger? I wonder.
And call it the anti japanese thread. One full page and almost nothing on the BKK scene, just used and well known cliches endlessly repeated. Do you just alldo "Japanese watching" when in BKK, or do you sometimes monger? I wonder.You could apply for the BKK thread moderator position and fix this issue but you would be very busy as these threads rarely stay on track as Officer Mooris7 will attest. He is so disgusted he's giving board the silence treatment till it gets back on track. Because Bangkok is so international, next week the topic may be all about prices followed by LBs then ATM fees or tap water and my favorite, tipping.
At a friend's recommendation, I went to this place called "Relax Beauty"
It is located in the first sub soi of soi 33 on the right hand side.
It is at the deep end of the soi, infact the last shop to the right.
Next time I am going to try their brazilian waxing, all for 500 bahts for men.
Overall a very good relaxing 2 hours spent and pampered myself for all of 1000 Bahts.Good information (BTW, do they allow japaense in? Ah ah ah ah) tell us about the brazilian waxing when you do it. Always heard it is a bit painful. I had the "shaving" at the Nana Hotel MP and that was ok during and lasts quite long, later, never had a problem even when hair started to grow again.
If I well understand it is the sub-soi close to the italian restarant?
Might try this, as very close to LL.
A few years back in Tokyo I tried going into a porno shop and was told Only Japanese. Getting turned down by a porno shop? How low on the evolutionary scale do they think we are?You have to take into account the japanese culture. They never want to say no and not being able to serve a customer (due to the language barrier, mainly) has the effect to refuse foreigners.
AussieDoug
02-16-12, 12:21
I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.Only white countries are all sad about discrimination, all the other countries don't give a toss, and if you ask about it they say say "they are preserving their cultural heritage" and so stuff off.
Only white countries are all sad about discrimination, all the other countries don't give a toss, and if you ask about it they say say "they are preserving their cultural heritage" and so stuff off.Yes, it really only is the West that is concerned about discrimination, but eventually all nations will be as globalization will make it impossible not to. Big thumbs down to countries that still endorse discriminatory policies.
Wolvenvacht
02-16-12, 21:06
(snip) next week the topic may be all about prices followed by LBs then ATM fees or tap water and my favorite, tipping.You have forgotten the orchids! How could you forget the orchids?
http://www.slutload.com/watch/GCQJ7dstWL2/Japanese-Teen-Screaming-while-being-FastFucked.html
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching/crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying/screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.
http://www.slutload.com/watch/GCQJ7dstWL2/Japanese-Teen-Screaming-while-being-FastFucked.html
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching / crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying / screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.
Is Easter a good time to come to Bangkok, in terms of weather, party atmosphere?
Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.I love it. Maybe that would work.
LookItsScott
02-17-12, 03:06
Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.Pmsl cock in the mouth works every time.
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching / crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying / screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.Hahaha! You were getting it done and you told her to shut up? I have an early 30s girl here in Osaka that thankfully doesn't do it. And before I was banging this ballet dancer chick who also was moaning quite nicely without the screeching. Even when she took it up the arse. And a few I shagged before that were the same.
Hopefully the thread gets back to info about Bangkok before too long. Come and have a look at the Osaka thread in the Japan forum etc for info on J girls!
Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.Or fingers in her mouth, as is seen in porn, if you want to keep fucking her. I prefer duct tape & find TGs are mostly starfish and non screechers, and it is always interesting to compare Bangkok to other places like Cambodia, PI and Japan. So lots of good comments here lately. Keep it up boys, the bottle is still half full. BTW since I can't seem to make paragraphs here anymore, I figured why bother with proper sentences either.
Hello guys.
Just wondering Le Meridian, Bangkok is a girl friendly hotel?
http://www.slutload.com/watch/GCQJ7dstWL2/Japanese-Teen-Screaming-while-being-FastFucked.html
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching / crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying / screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.You seem to be spending a lot of time researching how to discount J-girls. If that is how you want to spend your time in BKK, that's your choice, ofcourse. Still no info whatsoever on mongering BKK in the last 2 pages of this thread. I don't really care, have moved on, but still a pity for those looking for real info.
ChrisMonger3
02-17-12, 13:49
Hi,
Visiting Bangkok for a couple of days. I am aware of the many possible places for soapy massage and oil massage. If anyone is able to spare a few mins, can you PM the names / addresses of the good soapy and oil massage places. Ones with good selections and value for money.
Your help and advice is appreciated.
Chrismonger3
Ralph Kramden
02-17-12, 14:20
Yes indeed, stick your dick in her mouth and get a real "hummer".
Pmsl cock in the mouth works every time.Yes, I endorse this method. It is foolproof for shutting up a yakkity yak-mouth regardless of national origin. Hehe
Will be in town next month.
Forgot the name of the BJ bar on Sukhumvit Road. I believe its on Soi 8. Some help please.
Thank you.
will be in town next month.
forgot the name of the bj bar on sukhumvit road. i believe its on soi 8. some help please.
thank you.[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s on suk 8.
you may also want to try this place:http://bjbarbangkok.com/
Wolvenvacht
02-17-12, 20:38
[url(snip) This is an example of the fake annoying screeching/crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. (snip).Annoying yes, but fake crying? I think not. As you can see on this and many other Japanese porn videos on the net, most Japanese men have a dick made out of small edgy cubes. I can imagine it really hurts when they are fucking their ladies.
LittleBigMan
02-18-12, 03:26
Very well stated. Stereotypes develop for a reason, but we need to remember that there are always exceptions to the rule.Not to extend this story and nothing personal on my part. But today there is a sport story written by Gwenn Knapp on the www.sfgate.com Regarding a basketball player Jeremy Lin who plays for the New York Knicks. This story believe it or not has lots to do with the discussion lately?
LBM
Is Easter a good time to come to Bangkok, in terms of weather, party atmosphere?Sure, Lots of Easter parties in hotels and bars. The town is jumping with the Christians.
You seem to be spending a lot of time researching how to discount J-girls. If that is how you want to spend your time in BKK, that's your choice, ofcourse. Still no info whatsoever on mongering BKK in the last 2 pages of this thread. I don't really care, have moved on, but still a pity for those looking for real info.Dreams, you sure seem like a nice guy. But for all the pussy's sake, get a life. Nobody is forcing you to read this. If you are so concerned become the moderator of this thread or just stop talking.
Dreams, you sure seem like a nice guy. But for all the pussy's sake, get a life. Nobody is forcing you to read this. If you are so concerned become the moderator of this thread or just stop talking.Really feeling good that you think I am a nice guy. Makes my day.
Cheers!
Dear All,
Just got the chance to stop over in Bangkok, stay my usual Hotel in Soi 2, Majestic Grande.
Visit Raibow 4, as usual full house but girls is just so so and when to Rainbow 1, many Jap in this bar. Girls and waittress are not like those in Rainbow 4. This place is more pushy, the waitresses will show you a card whenever the girls seated beside you, I have seen there is Short time 2000 bht, Long Time 4000 bhat. Girls mostly prefer short time.
So nothing in bith raibow bar for me, so went to angel witch, they have a nice show, some girls naked while performing at the stage. Many westerner than asian in this bar. But to my surprises, why they are charging the same as to Rainbows bar. St: 2000 bht, LT: 4000 bht. Is Bangkok becoming more standard in prices for all? If so, then the Jap have make the price went up high. (nothing to against the Jap here) but Bangkok is becoming more and more pricer now. Last time I have only paid 2500 bht for the LT (that was way back last end of the year). Or perhaps my negotiation is not good enough.
At the end, take a lady out from angel witch but later decide to let her go after ST. As her services is just so so.
Any update?
Cheers,
MD
You should really post more.
Excellent report, and I enjoyed your 2 cents.Thanks for the comments to my previous post. I have a lot to share, having been in LOS 30+ times in 25 years, but it would be just generic advice / tales more than real current info, having missed 2011 and 2012 so far. Hope to go there in 2013, but wait: in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? 4000 sounds ridiculous to me even as a bargaining starting point. Is LOS going downhill so fast as a mongering place? Or is police asking for more money from the bars? Or is just Nana going the same way as Patpong, I. E. Tourist scam? Please give me some opinion, I am stunned.
Dear All,
Just got the chance to stop over in Bangkok, stay my usual Hotel in Soi 2, Majestic Grande.
Visit Raibow 4, as usual full house but girls is just so so and when to Rainbow 1, many Jap in this bar. Girls and waittress are not like those in Rainbow 4. This place is more pushy, the waitresses will show you a card whenever the girls seated beside you, I have seen there is Short time 2000 bht, Long Time 4000 bhat. Girls mostly prefer short time.
So nothing in bith raibow bar for me, so went to angel witch, they have a nice show, some girls naked while performing at the stage. Many westerner than asian in this bar. But to my surprises, why they are charging the same as to Rainbows bar. St: 2000 bht, LT: 4000 bht. Is Bangkok becoming more standard in prices for all? If so, then the Jap have make the price went up high. (nothing to against the Jap here) but Bangkok is becoming more and more pricer now. Last time I have only paid 2500 bht for the LT (that was way back last end of the year). Or perhaps my negotiation is not good enough.
At the end, take a lady out from angel witch but later decide to let her go after ST. As her services is just so so.
Any update?
Cheers,
MDSome don't agree, but I believe you are right on regarding the Japanese influence.
Tony Hoeprano
02-19-12, 05:58
I haven't seen prices change in 9 years. Its a never ending supply of ugly issan girls invading the tourist areas.9 years of nothing but uglies?! What keeps bring you back? Is it the temples or the cheap food?!!
Thanks for the comments to my previous post. I have a lot to share, having been in LOS 30+ times in 25 years, but it would be just generic advice / tales more than real current info, having missed 2011 and 2012 so far. Hope to go there in 2013, but wait: in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? 4000 sounds ridiculous to me even as a bargaining starting point. Is LOS going downhill so fast as a mongering place? Or is police asking for more money from the bars? Or is just Nana going the same way as Patpong, I. E. Tourist scam? Please give me some opinion, I am stunned.It is sad but true. Guys need to just stop paying the ridiculous fees and prices will drop. Some months ago, I met several Rainbow dancers eating food out on the street after work. Got to chatting with them, ended up going home and having a great night with them. At some point while we were out on the street, one of them says to me,"it must be great living here." I asked her why, and she said,"because you don't need to go to bars and pay fine, and can probably meet many ladies outside here and only pay 1000 or 1500 baht, right?" I looked at her and smiled. And yes, I gave each one exactly 1000 baht when they left my room some 6 hours later.
Wolvenvacht
02-19-12, 09:13
Its a never ending supply of ugly issan girls invading the tourist areas.One man's ugly is another man's beauty!
Jimmy Red Cab
02-19-12, 09:35
Thanks for the comments to my previous post. I have a lot to share, having been in LOS 30+ times in 25 years, but it would be just generic advice / tales more than real current info, having missed 2011 and 2012 so far. Hope to go there in 2013, but wait: in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? 4000 sounds ridiculous to me even as a bargaining starting point. .4000 baht may sound ridiculous to you but in the UK an overnighter would set you back 35, 000 baht, with the really pretty girls they don't even want to go LT, much better for them to go ST and be back in bar within 30 minutes. If you want cheaper prices then you have to take the freelancer route.
Wolvenvacht
02-19-12, 13:09
(snip) in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? (snip)That is the price they show you on the menu-card. I think they have noticed the tendency of many (newbee) farang to accept everything as long as it is printed. I was in Angelwitch in December 2012 and for some reason they did not pull that trick on me.
I heard some bars tried to make you pay upfront for LT, arguing that some of their girls have been scammed by farang who refused to pay afterwards.
Der Tourist
02-19-12, 13:27
4000LT was the price in Rainbow4 since as early as 2006 in many cases. I'm surprised that some are still bringing this up as "expensive". Do you want it free or what?
4000LT was the price in Rainbow4 since as early as 2006 in many cases. I'm surprised that some are still bringing this up as "expensive". Do you want it free or what?For free? Did I say that, dear friend? What I said is that I was never, ever proposed 4k as a starting point nowhere in LOS. If that happened to you since 2006, I believe you and I am sorry for you, but for me is new and a rip-off. For LT I never went above 2. 5K for real stunners starting from maybe 3. 5 or 3. As you see I do not bargain that hard either. The real reason why I do not post much is that anything you say here, however innocent and in good faith, is modified or misunderstood and then thrown against you by someone who have too much free time and too little common sense.
Just like the other member that mentions 35. 000 baht as UK price: I do not understand how can you compare these two things. Dear fellow, next time you'll try to buy a home in UK for 400k GBP go say to the seller "Hey, but in Pattaya I can get the same flat for 30k GBP". Please record the reaction on camera and post it here, ok? That's entertainment!
Yeah, a lot of people are making fun of the 2000-4000 prices in the big bars, that "only newbies pay". I'm not seeing many reports of successful attempts below those prices in those bars, though.
thank you.
found the website amusing. do you know how long that place has been there (soi 7)?
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s on suk 8.
you may also want to try this place:http://bjbarbangkok.com/
4000 baht may sound ridiculous to you but in the UK an overnighter would set you back 35, 000 baht, with the really pretty girls they don't even want to go LT, much better for them to go ST and be back in bar within 30 minutes. If you want cheaper prices then you have to take the freelancer route.But the key point here is that you are not in the UK. Does not matter what you would pay anywhere else.
It is sad but true. Guys need to just stop paying the ridiculous fees and prices will drop. Some months ago, I met several Rainbow dancers eating food out on the street after work. Got to chatting with them, ended up going home and having a great night with them. At some point while we were out on the street, one of them says to me,"it must be great living here." I asked her why, and she said,"because you don't need to go to bars and pay fine, and can probably meet many ladies outside here and only pay 1000 or 1500 baht, right?" I looked at her and smiled. And yes, I gave each one exactly 1000 baht when they left my room some 6 hours later.Exactly. Living here gives us a big leg up. We are in no hurry as we are here when you go home. Low season is quite nice.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-19-12, 22:14
But the key point here is that you are not in the UK. Does not matter what you would pay anywhere else.Yes, that is the standard reply I always get, what it boils down to is market forces, if girls can ask for 4000 baht and get it then what is the problem.
The solution to avoid high fees is stick to the poorer quality girls in Pattaya, plenty there for 1000 baht overnight.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-19-12, 22:19
Yeah, a lot of people are making fun of the 2000-4000 prices in the big bars, that "only newbies pay". I'm not seeing many reports of successful attempts below those prices in those bars, though.You make a good point, the top girls in Baccara, Rainbow 4 and Angel Witch don't need to drop their prices. You may get LT for 3000 baht at 2am but by the time you get back to the room it is going to be a short LT.
thank you.
found the website amusing. do you know how long that place has been there (soi 7)?it has been there for several months. it is affiliated with annie's. the place is nicer than [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, not that it matters. you saw the prices for bj. 700 and 1000. the place is worth checking out. i have had a several good experiences there.
Wolvenvacht
02-19-12, 22:53
Yeah, a lot of people are making fun of the 2000-4000 prices in the big bars, that "only newbies pay". I'm not seeing many reports of successful attempts below those prices in those bars, though.1500 baht LT in Soi Cowboy's Suzie Wong last June, but 3000 baht LT last December.
AlLostInSpace13
02-20-12, 07:28
Although ISG is supposed to be a site for mongers, there's nothing to stop working girls (or friends of) to pose as a monger (s) and feeding misleading information on pricing. Nuff said.
Spaceman
Yes, that is the standard reply I always get, what it boils down to is market forces, if girls can ask for 4000 baht and get it then what is the problem.The default answer to this as parroted by many here is that if Mr. Monger pays that rate he ruins the market and increase prices for the rest of us. Never saw any evidence to support this as you can always pass on a provider if her prices are unreasonable and find one more reasonable or one you can afford.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-20-12, 08:56
The default answer to this as parroted by many here is that if Mr. Monger pays that rate he ruins the market and increase prices for the rest of us. Never saw any evidence to support this as you can always pass on a provider if her prices are unreasonable and find one more reasonable or one you can afford.This is the problem, as I see it anyway. Not all girls are the same quality, the very attractive girls know full well that someone will eventually pay the rate they are asking, take Rainbow 4 as an example, the same girls get barfined night after night, if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.
These gents who claim because they live in Bangkok they get special rates are being less than truthful in my opinion.
This is the problem, as I see it anyway. Not all girls are the same quality, the very attractive girls know full well that someone will eventually pay the rate they are asking, take Rainbow 4 as an example, the same girls get barfined night after night, if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.
These gents who claim because they live in Bangkok they get special rates are being less than truthful in my opinion.Really? What makes you say that? Do you live here as well? I guarantee you we get better "rates" as most of us speak the language, and have no timetable.
if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.Not sure about less attractive as not everyone is attracted Rainbow cookie cutter type girls and they are not all attractive. Some men want big girls, others want the Issan look, still others want girls with the toothy smile or girls without tattoos. Because we are all attracted to different type girls, we can seek out the types we want and pay the price we want. If they don't want to accept your price move on to the next, eventually you will find the one you want providing you are reasonable and not expecting to pay the same rate your dad did 40 years ago.
Although ISG is supposed to be a site for mongers, there's nothing to stop working girls (or friends of) to pose as a monger (s) and feeding misleading information on pricing. Nuff said.
SpacemanYou better beleive it. Many girls know about this and other sites.
I was on Soi 6 last month in a bar. The bartender had a popular local site, P Addicts logged onto her computer. They are well aware and actively involved.
1500 baht LT in Soi Cowboy's Suzie Wong last June, but 3000 baht LT last December.2000 LT at1 0pm last week from Rawhide. Not a stunner, but not ugly either.
Crazy4Thai
02-20-12, 16:55
This is the problem, as I see it anyway. Not all girls are the same quality, the very attractive girls know full well that someone will eventually pay the rate they are asking, take Rainbow 4 as an example, the same girls get barfined night after night, if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.
These gents who claim because they live in Bangkok they get special rates are being less than truthful in my opinion.JRC. As you read the replies here, you are getting good examples of how your opinion does not hold true. You only add up 2 options. Paying the rate or moving on. The 3rd option is a friendly negotiation of the price.
I guess the thing is, it's not all the same price for the ladies even if they do print up a price list. It really does vary.
While I have been to Bangkok a few times, I have mostly been sampling the oilys and soapies exclusively. In the non go-go bars like Climax or Q bar or Nana Disco where FLs come to dance and get picked up, how much making out, contact is allowed with the ladies? Can or will the FLs do lap dances or allow kissing and groping?
On a similar theme, if you took out a lady from one of the oilys foe the night, will they go out with you to some of these dance clubs to drink and dance and make out? Just curious about what people's experiences have been.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-20-12, 17:58
2000 LT at1 0pm last week from Rawhide. Not a stunner, but not ugly either.The fact that you point out she was not a stunner tells me all I need to know, yes I believe you paid 2000 baht.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-20-12, 18:02
Really? What makes you say that? Do you live here as well? I guarantee you we get better "rates" as most of us speak the language, and have no timetable.No, I don't live in Bangkok but have been there in excess of 25 times, some girls tell me they avoid ex-pats because they are cheap charlies, not my words by the way.
No, I don't live in Bangkok but have been there in excess of 25 times, some girls tell me they avoid ex-pats because they are cheap charlies, not my words by the way.What they really mean is they avoid expats because the expat knows the score and will not put up with their games and foolishness including insane prices. Tourists are an easy mark.
No, I don't live in Bangkok but have been there in excess of 25 times, some girls tell me they avoid ex-pats because they are cheap charlies, not my words by the way.Most expats choose to retire there because of cheap living and cheap pussy. They know where they can get cheap, unspoiled girls. There are plenty of non-descript bars where you can get non mercenary girls.
These girls you talk of probably avoid local guys too for the same reason.
StreetHawk
02-20-12, 18:49
Hi,
I don't know how relevant this is but anyway I BF'd a stunner from Angelwitch in Jan 2010 for 1500 BHT (she initially wanted 2000). She had wavy hair, white skin, tall about 5-7, great legs and big toned natural tits, quite unlike any TG I'd encountered before.
However, If you think I'm blowing my trumpet then read on. Her attitude stank, she acted the prima donna, didn't blow my trumpet. And basically lay there and resisted any motion from me. She started telling me to hurry up, and that she was leaving if I didn't finish soon, so I slipped off the condom and started titty fucking her and blocking out the rest of her I shot my load over those fantastic melons, it was a great sight and provided me with some solace.
She then put on her clothes and started dancing again in front of me? Just loved herself a bit too much. Asked (or demanded) taxi money told her to get lost. So I agree it's performance not presentation and screen your applicants cafefully first.
Good info fellas!
Jimmy Red Cab
02-20-12, 19:07
What they really mean is they avoid expats because the expat knows the score and will not put up with their games and foolishness including insane prices. Tourists are an easy mark.What is insane to you is peanuts to some people.
That is the price they show you on the menu-card. I think they have noticed the tendency of many (newbee) farang to accept everything as long as it is printed.The next step is to have the menu card stamped and signed by the local Chamber of Commerce.
Hi all.
Wondered if anyone has any experience tracking down WGs who are Bi and perform with women?
My Filipino GF is meeting me in BKK this weekend and literally aching for pussy. We are planning some no-holes-barred fun with girls but want to be sure they're not just actresses who only want to help service me back at the room (my girl's got to have attention!).
Has anyone found places where bisexual WGs are more likely to be found? Any recommendations from others lucky enough to have the best of both worlds?
As we don't live there, AFF is a bit hit and miss and we want to focus on clubbing and collecting instead.
Any advice would be very welcome!
Also: hottest disco for freelancers? Still Intercontinental now the Nana Hotel's club has gone quiet?
I just heard a rumour about Nana Plaza being sold to land developers. Its merely a rumour at this stage. Can anyone else confirm this? My source is pretty reliable but I would like to see if anyone else heard this.
Wolvenvacht
02-21-12, 07:35
Hi all.
Wondered if anyone has any experience tracking down WGs who are Bi and perform with women?
My Filipino GF is meeting me in BKK this weekend and literally aching for pussy. We are planning some no-holes-barred fun with girls but want to be sure they're not just actresses who only want to help service me back at the room (my girl's got to have attention!).
Has anyone found places where bisexual WGs are more likely to be found? Any recommendations from others lucky enough to have the best of both worlds?As a measure of last resort, there is always Eden Club. But I would start by touring the agogos and perhaps asking the mamasan for some pointers.
The fact that you point out she was not a stunner tells me all I need to know, yes I believe you paid 2000 baht.I prefer excellent service from a@non stunner@@non ugly@for 2000 thn starfish form an Optifuck for 4000. To each his own, mate.
Tony Hoeprano
02-21-12, 08:30
Most expats choose to retire there because of cheap living and cheap pussy. They know where they can get cheap, unspoiled girls. There are plenty of non-descript bars where you can get non mercenary girls.
These girls you talk of probably avoid local guys too for the same reason.No doubt, but the hottest ones are going to be most sought after and will eventually command top price. Hence why the Oakland A's haven't been very good for quite a while since before Moneyball came out. Ya can't expect to get Albert Pujols like talent and expect to pay them a bench warmer's salary!
AussieDoug
02-21-12, 11:21
I just heard a rumour about Nana Plaza being sold to land developers. Its merely a rumour at this stage. Can anyone else confirm this? My source is pretty reliable but I would like to see if anyone else heard this.This rumour surfaces every so often, I think it is actually owned by the same indian family that owns the Landmark Hotel, but that could be a rumour also, most of the larger Sukhumvit hotels are owned by indian families, the Amari in Soi 5, the Westin and Sheraton, Landmark, JW Marriott etc. Maybe they need more car park?
wanting to make this a bj week i stopped in dj bj shop and while the set up was nice, the best looking girl in the bunch was the one receptionist or manager but she was not an option but i will be back to try it. went to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and got the usual except the girl tried to use her hand too much so i had to keep moving it and told her only to suck, wanted a big tip for using mostly her mouth. also tried lolipop1 off soi 10. as soon as you reach that soi the sign for lollipop is there, the shop is in the alley behind the paradiso suites.
these girls were a better looking bunch and dressed cutely in their red tight fitting dress. had a light skin girl who jumped up and down as soon as she saw me turn the corner like i was her long lost friend, yelling hello, welcome. same set up as [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s with the couch and curtains, two other customers next couch over but everyone knows the score so no shyness, just do it.
i crowned this girl the bj champion of the world when she was done as she used no hands and had a powerful vacuum suction. definitely going back to see her, she had a nice body and they do offer take out so for all you budget mongers, bjs bars are an alternative to the high priced go-gos. i like lollipop, lots of smiling by the girls and customers being made to feel like they are royalty for 700b, how can you beat this?
I just heard a rumour about Nana Plaza being sold to land developers. Its merely a rumour at this stage. Can anyone else confirm this? My source is pretty reliable but I would like to see if anyone else heard this.Stickman reported on this last November. Was sold in fact but not to real estate developers. I expect he has his facts right as I have not heard differently.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanBangkokWeeklyColumn2011/Nana-Plaza.htm
What is insane to you is peanuts to some people.That's not really the point. Why would you pay Mercedes prices for a Kia? Believe me, almost all of the girls in the GoGo scene are Kias! For a Kia price they are ok, but not for the cost of a Benz. And hey, it is the punters who make the market, not the girls. But to echo Oldian's post, there will always be more and more suckers coming to BKK and keeping the prices inflated. More power to 'them. Of course I don't take GoGo girls as I find them a bit boring after all these years. After you have heard every story a million times, you just want service focused on you. As I have said many times before, I am not here to date working girls. Working girls are for service.
Bangkok2012
02-21-12, 16:58
Hi guys,
Just a quick report to contribute something back to this great forum. To the locals, apologies if I overpaid, but I couldn't find a decent price estimate in the last 10+ pages I read through. The discussions here were a bit too lively. Also apologies if this report is too basic as I'm new to the scene.
Hit Soi Cowboy today. Actually visited every single one of the clubs but most seemed rather dead or felt bad. In the end, enjoyed Shark and Bacarra (sp?) the most. Ok music, attractive women and no sleazy feel. Bacarra was actually too full, so couldn't get a decent seat. Looked like it had better selection but hard to tell, since I didn't stay long. Ended up spending most of the evening in Shark.
Girls dancing on the stage rotated every 20 minutes. Once off the stage, the girls would sometimes approach you to chat. Bought a couple of drinks for them (100-200 baht) and chatted. In the end, took one home. Total damage was 600 bar fine. 2,500 for the girl (ST). Girl was cute, decent BJ action and friendly, but I wouldn't say GFE. English wasn't so great, but we muddled through. Had an enjoyable experience and would repeat with her again, although there were quite a few others in Shark that I would want to try out before returning to her.
Both Bacarra and Shark had large enough selections to cater to a lot of different tastes. There were the smoldering sexy ones, girl next door, innocent doe-eyed ones, etc.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-21-12, 20:57
That's not really the point. Why would you pay Mercedes prices for a Kia.It is not a good analogy to compare cars to third world hookers, it is a simple fact of life that not all hookers are the same quality, they range from stunning to downright ugly, one may be more than happy to go LT for 2000 baht while her superstar sister demands (and gets) 4000 baht. You will never beat the power of market forces, if the girl is a stunner then she names the price not you.
Total damage was 600 bar fine. 2,500 for the girl (ST).Was this a negotiated rate or did she just throw that at you and you agreed?
Der Tourist
02-21-12, 23:54
For free? Did I say that, dear friend? What I said is that I was never, ever proposed 4k as a starting point nowhere in LOS. If that happened to you since 2006, I believe you and I am sorry for you, but for me is new and a rip-off. For LT I never went above 2. 5K for real stunners starting from maybe 3. 5 or 3. As you see I do not bargain that hard either. The real reason why I do not post much is that anything you say here, however innocent and in good faith, is modified or misunderstood and then thrown against you by someone who have too much free time and too little common sense.
Just like the other member that mentions 35. 000 baht as UK price: I do not understand how can you compare these two things. Dear fellow, next time you'll try to buy a home in UK for 400k GBP go say to the seller "Hey, but in Pattaya I can get the same flat for 30k GBP". Please record the reaction on camera and post it here, ok? That's entertainment!It depends where you go and what your objectives are. True, you can get below 4000LT but this is a normal price there. Not a 'rip off' unless you consider 4000 Baht a rip off in general.
Personally I had the best experience in BKK for 600 (which was. Well. The barfine) from Rainbow 4. However I am content with 4000 baht as a going price for a girl I really like. It just doesn't make much difference to me whether it's 2. 5K or 4K or even free. If it would, I would go to places that are cheaper and I would also negotiate (I usually don't or just pretend that I do not to look like an idiot).
It also depends on your personal attitude and values. I don't bother going to a cheaper pub or bar to have my drinks in London to save money. Simply because I never save mone on it. Not because I'm rich (I'm not really) but because it's not something I can be bothered to 'save' on. I just go to a pub I like regardless if beer is £2. 5 or £4 there. 3000 or 4000 baht is not a sum of money that is going to make any difference to my financial situation despite the fact that being in one of those 'expensive' locations brings satisfaction which is worth more than that to me. It's a rather simple math here. If I wanted 'cheaper' I probably wouldn't even bother going to Thailand and spending several thousands of £ but just get a few hookers here in London. It would be cheaper.
Some are proud of bargaining down to 500 Baht LT. Fine. Not for me though. To everyone their own I guess.
Maybe they need more car park?Maybe more freelancers then? .
Why would you pay Mercedes prices for a Kia?.Would we buy a pre-owned car from a mama-san who just made a deal with us for one of her girls? .
Bangkok2012
02-22-12, 02:30
Was this a negotiated rate or did she just throw that at you and you agreed?The 600 bar fine. 2,500 ST was thrown at me and my attempts to negotiate lower failed. I suck at negotiating and it was relatively early in the evening as well.
It is not a good analogy to compare cars to third world hookers, it is a simple fact of life that not all hookers are the same quality, they range from stunning to downright ugly, one may be more than happy to go LT for 2000 baht while her superstar sister demands (and gets) 4000 baht. You will never beat the power of market forces, if the girl is a stunner then she names the price not you.Again, it is the consumer that names the price, not the supplier. If the customers won't pay, the price will go down.
This makes so much sense.
Gus who say they get stuuners@short Time 1000-1500 woldnt know a stunner if one fell on their head from the sky. Hot chicks don't do 1000. 1500. Ok-some will do 1500 but thats it!
And its the attractiveness of the girl you are paying for not her pesonality-that comes next on down the line if you want to repeat.I find that very amusing. I have met girls that go to Spassos and ask for 3-5000 who then come into the Thermae or Gullivers and drop to 1. 5, I have met Rainbow go go girls who normally go 3-4000 who go for 1000 out on the street after work not having a customer. I recently met two lovelies in the BG who looked far upmarket and out of place, I asked them where they normally hung out and they told me Q Bar and Bed. I looked at them and point blank said,"wow, you must be taking quite a pay cut to come in here!" One laughed, and said yes, but that in those places there were too many guys trying to go for free, and too many ambiguities, whereas in the BG, it was plain and simple and everyone knew the score.
Actually, the rate of the girl has absolutely nothing to do with stunner (outside of the fact that a hottie can set a higher price because she probably has a lot more offers). It usually has far more to do with how many customers she has had that evening, how her finances are, how she likes you, how much time is left in the night, and a lot of other factors. One guy may pay 3000 for a girl whom another guy pays 1000 for. It actually is all up to the punter and what he is willing to pay, and frankly, too many guys I meet out there seem to think that the girl who is telling them an overinflated Bangkok price is the only one left in the universe. It also amazes me how many guys I see asking girls "how much?" In almost a decade here, I don't think I have done that once. I tell them, not the other way round.
HotStud251
02-22-12, 07:30
My Bangkok trip was awesome. For all those looking for some action newly opened BOSSY near hotel skyotel in Batuna area is the best place. Its a disc with a entry charge of 300 batt with one drink. Worth it
Place is full of thai girls + some beautiful tashkent and ubeki girls. Low st and lt prices. Must visit place.
Enjoy life.
HotStud251
02-22-12, 07:34
Shock 9 is a another disco but didn't do well to my expectations. Bar was nice same 300 batt with drink entry but all girls were not gud looking and even older in age. More of russians but old ones. Left ghe place in half hour and went back to bossy.) hehe hunting begins.
Jimmy Red Cab
02-22-12, 09:46
Again, it is the consumer that names the price, not the supplier. If the customers won't pay, the price will go down.The problem is that someone will always pay for quality, I met a guy last night who is staying at the Sheraton for 5000 baht a night, I asked him what he got that I didn't get in my 2000 baht hotel, he politely explained that money was not a problem and he lived in Dubai. This is the type of person you have to compete with.
The problem is that someone will always pay for quality, I met a guy last night who is staying at the Sheraton for 5000 baht a night, I asked him what he got that I didn't get in my 2000 baht hotel, he politely explained that money was not a problem and he lived in Dubai. This is the type of person you have to compete with.Jimmy, the point is that you are not really getting "quality" out of a gogo. I have no problems paying for "quality" looks and "great" service, in fact I pay 2100 for an hour and a half at an oily, but the girls are always polite, have a good skill set, and there are many lighter skinned girls there as well. I also have no issue paying more for a looker at a Soapy, but to fork over the same amount for gogo girl who wants a rush job, no way.
Dash Riprock
02-22-12, 12:49
Lower prices typically mean increased cycles. It's all pay for play but there are going to be different quality issues when a girl is doing 90 cycles a month vs. 30-40.
Is Easter a good time to come to Bangkok, in terms of weather, party atmosphere?No. Bad time to come. The girls don't fuck over Easter. It is about giving respect to religious festivals that involve death.
Hmmmmmm. But maybe you will get lucky and find a naughty one.
No. Bad time to come. The girls don't fuck over Easter. It is about giving respect to religious festivals that involve death.
Hmmmmmm. But maybe you will get lucky and find a naughty one.Seeing that Thailand is mainly a Buddhist country I think not LOL. That's right, Soi Cowboy, Nana, Doc BJ's all closed for Easter! Ha ha Either bad joke or this guy is silly!
Look guys. All this crap about prices is really old now. It is so simple. Soi Cowboy and Nana is 150-160 Baht for a drink, be it lady or for us. Bar fines are about 600Baht. 2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT. The range is based on time of the night, amount of customers, appearance level of the girl, distance to your hotel or apartment, your appearance / nationality, and how badly she needs money at the time. We can debate this topic until we are all blue in the face. There is no right or wrong price, nothing is too low or too high. Too many factors are involved. Just politely negotiate your deal with the girls and if it works out great, if not then move on to the next girl and or bar. You will find what you are looking for eventually. The best part of Bangkok is there are a wealth of Go go's, bars, massage places, BJ establishments and so on. Are you all really that cheap? I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I have seen some of the pictures posted in the photo gallery. Some I would not fuck with my dogs dick! But you know what? None of my business! Each of us has our own tastes, budget, experience and so on. Think about this the next time you brag about how well you negotiated or he paid too much. If you are so cool and full of yourselves, why do you have to pay for pussy? STOP THE MADNESS LOL. Just have fun and pay whatever you and the girl agree to. There is no right or wrong answer about the girls rates.
I have received a few PM's about my opinion about where to go in BKK. Here is my two sense worth. Believe me, maybe that is all it is worth LOL. For Go go's I prefer Soi Cowboy. It is cleaner and more organized. Only one Lady boy bar, which is clearly marked on the sign, no room for error. My favorite is Baccara. Best selection of girls, no bouncers in sight, drink prices and bar fine amounts are straight forward. You can always find one you like in there. The others are all hit and miss in Cowboy. If you have the time to explore then you can find one in another club. Freelance bars I enjoy are Climax, Thermae, and Insomnia. Sometimes the thrill of the hunt is fun. Massage places I enjoy are all outside the Huay Kwang MRT, just exit at number 3. My favorite is Nataree. The popason is straight forward with Farang prices, same as the locals, best selection of girls I have seen. Go in the right side. The left side is a scaled down version with bad girls. I really like Dr. BJ's, price and set up are straight forward, always good service. If you have more patience you can try the freelance / freebee scene. I use Date in Asia, Badoo, and Thail friendly. Sometimes it is a nice change but usually a lot of games and hassle, but you can get lucky sometimes. Cheers and happy mongering!
Hi guys,
Just a quick report to contribute something back to this great forum. To the locals, apologies if I overpaid, but I couldn't find a decent price estimate in the last 10+ pages I read through. The discussions here were a bit too lively. Also apologies if this report is too basic as I'm new to the scene.
Hit Soi Cowboy today. Actually visited every single one of the clubs but most seemed rather dead or felt bad. In the end, enjoyed Shark and Bacarra (sp?) the most. Ok music, attractive women and no sleazy feel. Bacarra was actually too full, so couldn't get a decent seat. Looked like it had better selection but hard to tell, since I didn't stay long. Ended up spending most of the evening in Shark.
Girls dancing on the stage rotated every 20 minutes. Once off the stage, the girls would sometimes approach you to chat. Bought a couple of drinks for them (100-200 baht) and chatted. In the end, took one home. Total damage was 600 bar fine. 2,500 for the girl (ST). Girl was cute, decent BJ action and friendly, but I wouldn't say GFE. English wasn't so great, but we muddled through. Had an enjoyable experience and would repeat with her again, although there were quite a few others in Shark that I would want to try out before returning to her.
Both Bacarra and Shark had large enough selections to cater to a lot of different tastes. There were the smoldering sexy ones, girl next door, innocent doe-eyed ones, etc.I can't believe you guys have a newbie apologizing on here for paying 2500ST LOL. This is just comical now. This is a more than fair price and the guy had a decent time.
Good report! I feel the same, Sharky is always my second choice if Baccara is too crazy. Always a few lookers there. No worries mate, you paid a fair price. Maybe you could have saved 500 Baht but woulld it have really been worth the trouble. Maybe you would have bought her and you another drink in the meantime. Then your saving is cut in half LOL.
L2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT.Where do your numbers come from? I have never heard or seen 2500 ST or 5000 LT being quoted anywhere, not even by the stunners at the top bars (and that's mostly who I go for). The top bars ask for 2000 ST and 4000 LT, as everyone knows and as reported many times in this forum. Sometimes you can negotiate. Less famous bars (Mandarin and Erotica in Nana for example) sometimes quote less even before negotiation, eg 1500 ST and 3000 LT.
Anything above the top bars standard rate of 2000-4000, I've never seen either in nana or cowboy.
Kenny Rogers
02-22-12, 19:47
Hi Folks,
Not my 1st time in BKK, but maybe one of you can enlighten me where the action is in Chinatown. I've seen a few well-worn pros up Yeowarat Road and in the "Soi Texas". Am aware of the Texas Massage and 199 Hotel, but that's not really what I am after. I've been told there is more, but where?
I remember some genial guy had posted places of action marked on Google maps some years ago (2009). Searched for that but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if its still online?
Thanks, Kenny
Where do your numbers come from? I have never heard or seen 2500 ST or 5000 LT being quoted anywhere, not even by the stunners at the top bars (and that's mostly who I go for). The top bars ask for 2000 ST and 4000 LT, as everyone knows and as reported many times in this forum. Sometimes you can negotiate. Less famous bars (Mandarin and Erotica in Nana for example) sometimes quote less even before negotiation, eg 1500 ST and 3000 LT.
Anything above the top bars standard rate of 2000-4000, I've never seen either in nana or cowboy.One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip?
Giotto
I can't believe you guys have a newbie apologizing on here for paying 2500ST LOL. This is just comical now. This is a more than fair price and the guy had a decent time.
Good report! I feel the same, Sharky is always my second choice if Baccara is too crazy. Always a few lookers there. No worries mate, you paid a fair price. Maybe you could have saved 500 Baht but woulld it have really been worth the trouble. Maybe you would have bought her and you another drink in the meantime. Then your saving is cut in half LOL.. And I thought Sharky was in Phnom Penh. (Sharks is in Cowboy).
Giotto
Wolvenvacht
02-22-12, 20:28
One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip?
GiottoOf course! Someone who is so generous must stay in style all the way.
I tip when the performance is beyond what I expected. It has nothing to do with the initial price I agreed.
Of course! Someone who is so generous must stay in style all the way.
I tip when the performance is beyond what I expected. It has nothing to do with the initial price I agreed.Look, that cannot be right.
The lady is a service provider, and the fee is agreed upfront. Do you tip your doctor or dentist after treatment? No (because your health insurance does not cover the tip!). But - with a fee of THB 5000 she is somehow in the same service price range :) ...
I think this needs to be discussed urgently. We never had a real discussion about tipping!
Giotto
Jimmy Red Cab
02-22-12, 20:46
Look guys. All this crap about prices is really old now. It is so simple. Soi Cowboy and Nana is 150-160 Baht for a drink, be it lady or for us. Bar fines are about 600Baht. 2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT. .Total complete nonsense, I am there now. Never heard a fee of 5000 LT unless you are talking about the Russians in CM2, people like you simply drive prices higher.
I have been to several Gogo's and taken girls and never had a memorable experience. A great attitude and GFE not.
There are 1000's of SW's and FL's in the city that will fuck you good with GFE for 1K. No BF, no drinks, no loud music or BS. Why even go to these places.
But hey: its your time, money and sex life.
Look guys. All this crap about prices is really old now. It is so simple. Soi Cowboy and Nana is 150-160 Baht for a drink, be it lady or for us. Bar fines are about 600Baht. 2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT.Talk about pricing is never old, and nothing in Thailand is ever fixed when it comes to pricing.
The ranges you quote above aren't accurate, and will only lead to guys getting confused. It would be better to say that prices at Nana and Cowboy range from 1000-3000ST 1500-5000LT.
It really depends how well you can negotiate with the girls, and how shrewd or how much of a sucker you are. Remember, these girls are more ruthless and spoiled then ever before, so the lower price range is difficult but not impossible!
Crazy4Thai
02-23-12, 01:25
One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip?
GiottoWell. YES. We do not but as a big time hotel owner YOU do!
(I'd put in a smiley but it appears I have them turned off)
Crazy4Thai
02-23-12, 01:26
Total complete nonsense, I am there now. Never heard a fee of 5000 LT unless you are talking about the Russians in CM2, people like you simply drive prices higher.Ummm. It looks like you're changing dogs in this fight Jimmy.
I thought we were talking "peanuts to some people"
LittleBigMan
02-23-12, 01:44
I just wish that those who complain about the topic of discussion do not complain and then add their 2 cents into the topic.
I once took a girl years ago from Angel Disco, it was around 3am that we decided to take off to my room upstairs. Then while we were walking out the club with her girlfriend she said she was hungry and we all decided to have some food across the street with the street vendor (Thai style hot pot ). Maybe it was the MSG or something the next thing I know we were strip naked in the shower all together me getting a Thai club sandwich.
In the end, I had a great time with the both of them with condom wrappers all over the place and they left after noon. Price was never really discussed and my emotions and ego running high after and I was still a working man I pull out 5, 000 baht for the both of them. Was I overpaying?
LBM
(ship) naked in the shower all together me getting a Thai club sandwich. In the end, I had a great time with the both of them with condom wrappers all over the place and they left after noon. Price was never really discussed and my emotions and ego running high after and I was still a working man I pull out 5, 000 baht for the both of them. Was I overpaying? LBMOnly if you paid for the soup!
One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip? GiottoOnly if you are a rich American!
I pull out 5, 000 baht for the both of them. Was I overpaying?
LBMYeah! Go back and ask for a refund. LOLOLOL
If this guy paid 2000 he would still be accused of overpaying!I hope you mean 2000 Dollars LOL.
LittleBigMan
02-23-12, 04:48
Only if you paid for the soup!In fact, I didn't pay for the soup her girlfriend did? When she ask for the bill and the lady came she handed her a 1, 000 baht. While having soup and enjoying ourselves it was the girl that I pick that ask why I don't take her friend too? But regardless it just to show you in my book regardless of what anyone say we all at some point get burn or overpay.
LBM
The ranges you quote above aren't accurate, and will only lead to guys getting confused. It would be better to say that prices at Nana and Cowboy range from 1000-3000ST 1500-5000LT.No, 3000 ST-5000 LT is not in the normal range at all, and only paid rarely maybe by first timers who get ripped off, and even then that isn't tried so often.
But regardless it just to show you in my book regardless of what anyone say we all at some point get burn or overpay.Did you pay 5000 each or 5000 for both?
Talk about pricing is never old, and nothing in Thailand is ever fixed when it comes to pricing.
The ranges you quote above aren't accurate, and will only lead to guys getting confused. It would be better to say that prices at Nana and Cowboy range from 1000-3000ST 1500-5000LT.
It really depends how well you can negotiate with the girls, and how shrewd or how much of a sucker you are. Remember, these girls are more ruthless and spoiled then ever before, so the lower price range is difficult but not impossible!I am sorry but 1000ST is not common ad difficult as you said. I would not include that in the range! Even1500ST is not common on Soi Cowboy anymore unless you like fucking real dogs LOL. But to each their own.
This is all non-sense without pictures.
If you look at the girls in the phpto section (and don't vomit) I'd guess the avg paid is well below 1000.
I know this is too complex for some of you but some girls@4000 May be underpaid yet a 500 bahter may well be overpaid. God did create all girls the same same!Well said!
. And I thought Sharky was in Phnom Penh. (Sharks is in Cowboy).
GiottoMy apologizes I meant to say that.
Really I think the price issue should be dead. I don't care because I am tired of hearing all the crap about it! I have just as much right as anyone to complain because this forum belongs to all of us. The price issue is dead. There is enough info on here for 20 years of research. I agree with many other members. If you want to fuck a dog then go pay 1000 or 500 Baht. In Baccara many girls start with 5000LT if they are stunners. I have heard 5000Baht and I have heard 2500 for stunners. Who cares! The average range! Do you all know what average means? 2000-3000Baht ST, ok I will give you another 500. 2500Baht-5000Baht LT. What the f*k is the difference. As far as I am concerned if you can't afford an extra 500 Baht you should not even be doing this hobby for Christ sake! There is a well known site in Canada for this hobby. T*B. Never in my life have I heard this crap about someone causing prices to go up! If what some of you say is true and you can negotiate really low prices with the best stunners then when you combine it with those of us who pay too much LOL, it should all average out in the end.
Ok enough said please stop the madness!
Anyways went to Soi cowboy last night and took number 153. Best ass I have seen in a while, price was 3000LT. I love the way this girl rode me. The way she swung back and forth on my cock was pure bliss. All positions were on the menu. She gave a great BBBJ with DATY allowed. Two rounds later we fell asleep. Today round three ended 10AM. No tip and she was quite happy with the 3000Baht. In my book this is a fair price for LT for both parties. The girl is not seen as a cheater and we are not seen as an el cheapo ha ha.
You complainers are losing the argument by saying rainbow girls who normally go for 3-4000 short time are asking 1000 on the street. I'm very familiar with the most popular at rainbow 4 and they quote 2000 short time. AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING IT!
Not once has ANY rainbow girl asked for over 2000.I think you are misreading my post. Rainbow girls quote newbies, Japanese, or anyone else they think will be gullible enough to pay them 3, 4, or 5, 000 LT. And these girls did not ask for 1000 on the street, they pretty much figured out, after I spoke in Thai with them and they knew I'd lived here long enough and knew the ropes, that I probably wasn't going to pay more than 1 or 1. 5, and I agreed with them and told them I'd give 1, and they agreed.
On which planet does the customer set the price?
Re:500 baht short time girls. I'm sure a lot of guys get them at that price. Please look at photo section. Nothing but super ugly ass girls. Not even 1 who is just a littlte ugly.Were you here during the floods or during the mayhem of the preceding April / May? Prices were actually quite different. Thermae girls who normally don't budge from 2 or go with white guys were all of the sudden going with them for 1. 5. There just were no customers.
I traveled in Turkey years ago right after Ocalan, the Kurdish leader had been captured and reprisals had been warned. A good number of embassies had issued travel warnings about going to Turkey. Traveling along the coast, I went into lovely pensiones with balconies and marble floors, that normally went for $50 a night or more. When I asked about the prices, the owners would shrug their shoulders and look at me. If I said $20, it was okay, if I said $25 it was okay, it was just a complete buyers market and everyone knew it.
Everyone has their limits. If I normally work for 5000 baht an hour and someone offers me 4, I can choose to go below my normal wage and still earn good cash. If someone offers me 1, I can still earn cash, or I can choose to find that insulting and refuse.
Maybe a little less on treating the girls like a commodity on the stock exchange goes a long way into actually making the prices a lot lower for some.
No, 3000 ST-5000 LT is not in the normal range at all, and only paid rarely maybe by first timers who get ripped off, and even then that isn't tried so often.Of course it's not "normal", but it does happen, thus the range given.
LittleBigMan
02-23-12, 14:48
No. 3000 ST-5000 LT is not in the normal range at all, and only paid rarely maybe by first timers who get ripped off, and even then that isn't tried so often.
Did you pay 5000 each or 5000 for both?It was for the both girls, I normally pretty much pay the going rate but this was an occasion I felt I got more than I expected and I was still working and the baht was 40 to 1 per the USD. Although I didn't pay for the soup indirectly in the end I did. I still have memories of that evening one of the best I've had in Thailand.
LBM
I think having the price discussion is good. Maybe it will help some of us or others that read this down the line. But, we are a grain of sand in the mongers who go to Bangkok. What % of mongers in BKK are on here? Maybe 1-2%. Most of us are not the ones who are paying higher prices. In fact some of the prices quoted here which seem high are much much less than many guys are paying out there.
You would have to try pretty hard to get a girl from a gogo bar for 1, 000 baht now a days I think. Maybe an ugly or old one.
The smoking hot girls all start at 2, 000 baht these days although I must say I am very out of touch with the gogo's as the service is poor, the attitudes terrible and the logistics are a hassle.
After 8 years in Bangkok I now only use 2 paid options (aside from Internet action) :
1. Tulip For 3 Holes, Deep Rimming, Cum In Mouth Porn Experience.
2. Nataree For Smoking Hot White Skin Thai Spec Girls.
After trying pretty much every option here I am absolutely certain the above respresents the best of what Bangkok has to offer (especially Nataree).
BB
I have been to several Gogo's and taken girls and never had a memorable experience.
You are doing it wrong ;)
It was for the both girls
5000 for 2 girls who took care of you until noon doesn't seem like too much to me :)
After trying pretty much every option here I am absolutely certain the above respresents the best of what Bangkok has to offer (especially Nataree).It's interesting you would rate Nataree so high after so much time here. Can you explain more why you think it's so great?
I think having the price discussion is good. Maybe it will help some of us or others that read this down the line. But, we are a grain of sand in the mongers who go to Bangkok. What % of mongers in BKK are on here? Maybe 1-2%. Most of us are not the ones who are paying higher prices. In fact some of the prices quoted here which seem high are much much less than many guys are paying out there.Fully agreeing
My apologizes I meant to say that.No problem at all.
Giotto
Well. YES. We do not but as a big time hotel owner YOU do!
(I'd put in a smiley but it appears I have them turned off) OK.
I will tip. Let's think. How much?
Giotto
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Never in my life have I heard this crap about someone causing prices to go up!That's exactly the point.
Don't do never ever never ever ever never ever do don't do do don't do anything that could cause the prices to go up! That's bad. For all of us. Really bad.
WE are the customers. WE have pricing power (ask Mr. Bernanke if you want an explanation what that is). Let me tell you: It is NOT important how good your experience might be, it is IMPORTANT to keep the prices as low as possible! Really! You come to Bangkok to have fun, but please: DO NOT FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY you have for others! Do not overpay! Keep the prices low!
LBM,
Fuck you!!! 2 girls LT for THB 5,000.00. That's very close to a deflationary scenario. Housing prices falling. That's bad. BTW, did you tip? May be not? You could have shared with me, and I then had taken over the tip. For sure, THB 50 for each. BASTARD!
The copper price was rising today, I was trading it on FXCM. I wanted to give tip. But there was no field where I could enter the amount. I complaint to the administrator of this stupid site. No tip field. How come?
Guys, let me remind you: The general rule is: It does not matter whether you have fun or not. Keep the prices low! It does not matter whether you have fun or not: do not tip! Think about the last copper trade you did, and YOU WILL BE OK!
Giotto
Ok. Suggestions on Prices taken. Back to the point.
I have been strolling around Nana Plaza since 2 days, visting every gogo bar possible. Time around 11 to 2pm. The best girls I found were only at Voodo's and next would be Spankies, Spankies undoubtedly has the best shows though.
I think Voodo choses only those girls who are tall, curvy and have some flesh where its needed. I found more than 7-8 stunners there and others were not bad. I also got a girl along with me to my hotel room and there was no bar fine, however I had to pay for the girl upfront along with my bill. She did ask 2000 baht but happlily agreed for 1500 baht.
Regards,
A
That's exactly the point.
Guys, let me remind you: The general rule is: It does not matter whether you have fun or not. Keep the prices low! It does not matter whether you have fun or not: do not tip! Think about the last copper trade you did, and YOU WILL BE OK!
GiottoI promise, I will not tip the girls at the LL, only the one who will successuflly open the marmalade portions at the breakfast. If she succeeds she deserve a good tip!
See you soon, Giotto!
Fast Eddie 48
02-23-12, 22:58
Hi Folks,
Not my 1st time in BKK, but maybe one of you can enlighten me where the action is in Chinatown. I've seen a few well-worn pros up Yeowarat Road and in the "Soi Texas". Am aware of the Texas Massage and 199 Hotel, but that's not really what I am after. I've been told there is more, but where?
I remember some genial guy had posted places of action marked on Google maps some years ago (2009). Searched for that but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if its still online?
Thanks, KennyTo Kenny,
If you want high end action Chinatown is not the place, I was in Bangkok China town few week ago didn't see many SW around outside of Texas massage but it was early around 5 pm most are low quality for 500-700 bht a pop, texas massage have a few girl only average 5-6 1500 bht not like 7 yr ago they have some nice sideliner.
Fast Eddie 48
I think having the price discussion is good. Maybe it will help some of us or others that read this down the line.Agree. Value for money is everything!
Tony Hoeprano
02-24-12, 02:04
Time around 11 to 2pm. The best girls I found were only at Voodo's and next would be Spankies, Spankies undoubtedly has the best shows though.
I think Voodo choses only those girls who are tall, curvy and have some flesh where its needed. I found more than 7-8 stunners there and others were not bad. I also got a girl along with me to my hotel room and there was no bar fine, however I had to pay for the girl upfront along with my bill. She did ask 2000 baht but happlily agreed for 1500 baht.
Regards,
AYou realize why the Voodoo girls are the tallest and best looking? LOL
On which planet does the customer set the price?
Re:500 baht short time girls. I'm sure a lot of guys get them at that price. Please look at photo section. Nothing but super ugly ass girls. Not even 1 who is just a littlte ugly.That is the nature of a market Harold. If customers won't pay the price, it goes down. As Oldian pointed out, if you were here during the floods and went to Thermae, gals who normally would never look at a Westerner were headed out the door with guys for 1500 ST as there were almost no Japanese to take them.
Folks tend to forget that the customer always has the power as we are the ones that have the money.
You would have to try pretty hard to get a girl from a gogo bar for 1, 000 baht now a days I think. Maybe an ugly or old one.
The smoking hot girls all start at 2, 000 baht these days although I must say I am very out of touch with the gogo's as the service is poor, the attitudes terrible and the logistics are a hassle.
After 8 years in Bangkok I now only use 2 paid options (aside from Internet action) :
1. Tulip For 3 Holes, Deep Rimming, Cum In Mouth Porn Experience.
2. Nataree For Smoking Hot White Skin Thai Spec Girls.
After trying pretty much every option here I am absolutely certain the above respresents the best of what Bangkok has to offer (especially Nataree).
BBAgree with you. My partaking is limited to Tulip, Mango, and Snow White, since I know what I am going to get, there is no drama, I am treated well and with respect, which I rightfully return, and the service is top notch. No need to go try to romance gogo girls.
That's exactly the point.
Don't do never ever never ever ever never ever do don't do do don't do anything that could cause the prices to go up! That's bad. For all of us. Really bad.
WE are the customers. WE have pricing power (ask Mr. Bernanke if you want an explanation what that is). Let me tell you: It is NOT important how good your experience might be, it is IMPORTANT to keep the prices as low as possible! Really! You come to Bangkok to have fun, but please: DO NOT FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY you have for others! Do not overpay! Keep the prices low!
LBM,
Fuck you! 2 girls LT for THB 5, 000. 00. That's very close to a deflationary scenario. Housing prices falling. That's bad. BTW, did you tip? May be not? You could have shared with me, and I then had taken over the tip. For sure, THB 50 for each. BASTARD!
The copper price was rising today, I was trading it on FXCM. I wanted to give tip. But there was no field where I could enter the amount. I complaint to the administrator of this stupid site. No tip field. How come?
Guys, let me remind you: The general rule is: It does not matter whether you have fun or not. Keep the prices low! It does not matter whether you have fun or not: do not tip! Think about the last copper trade you did, and YOU WILL BE OK!
GiottoWith all do respect Giotto 2500Baht for each girl for long term? That is more than a fair price! Are you sure you understand? He did not pay 5000Baht each! I would really be curious to see the girls you fuck for 1000ST and 1500LT LOL Oh wait maybe even that is too much for you ha ha.
You realize why the Voodoo girls are the tallest and best looking? LOLThey ate Wonder Bread as a child?
Tony Hoeprano
02-24-12, 04:40
They ate Wonder Bread as a child?No, they were born with dongs!
Mr Enternational
02-24-12, 09:20
The best girls I found were only at Voodo's and next would be Spankies, I think Voodo choses only those girls who are tall, curvy and have some flesh where its needed.Would this "flesh where its needed" happen to be between their legs?
With all do respect Giotto 2500Baht for each girl for long term? That is more than a fair price! Are you sure you understand? He did not pay 5000Baht each! I would really be curious to see the girls you fuck for 1000ST and 1500LT LOL Oh wait maybe even that is too much for you ha ha.Word of the day: "Sarcasm" - Look it up.
Would this "flesh where its needed" happen to be between their legs?Not for me.
But is that where you look for the extra flesh in a girl (?)
Regards,
A
Love Sex 22
02-24-12, 13:30
Some of the Japanese clubs in Pat pong.
With all do respect Giotto 2500Baht for each girl for long term? That is more than a fair price! Are you sure you understand? He did not pay 5000Baht each! I would really be curious to see the girls you fuck for 1000ST and 1500LT LOL Oh wait maybe even that is too much for you ha ha.Mooris7,
We need to discuss the difference between inflation and deflation ... next time.
THB 1,000.00 or THB 1,500.00 for LT? Naah, I don't pay that much. I am young and handsome, the girls usually pay for my drinks and go for free. Next morning I then get tip and money for the taxi home.
Life is hard.
Giotto
Tony Hoeprano
02-25-12, 02:39
Help!
My thaigirlfriend wants me to buy a house in isaan for the family. You know-I don't want to overpay and ruin the market, can I get a range pf proper pricing.It depends on how ugly your girl is LOL.
AussieDoug
02-25-12, 13:00
Help!
My thaigirlfriend wants me to buy a house in isaan for the family. You know-I don't want to overpay and ruin the market, can I get a range pf proper pricing.First thing to get straight on is you are building a house in Isaan, the wages are no more than $5 a day for workers / labourers, don't expect it will be built by real tradesmen. 100, 000 bht can buy a nice cement block room with a roof, and a veritable palace for not much more. One thing you should insist on if you do care somewhat about this girl / woman (assuming you do as you asked the question) is that you will only stump up for a house on land that is solely in her name. That stops the useless motorcycle riding ya ba freaks of brothers that will turf her out once the oldies die. Be prepared that you may well be older than her parents.
If you visit Isaan walk around a local mall, I once happened upon a local builder displaying homes, they were quite cheap for real houses that a farang would want to live in, most of us eschew the cinder block huts.
That is the nature of a market Harold. If customers won't pay the price, it goes down. As Oldian pointed out, if you were here during the floods and went to Thermae, gals who normally would never look at a Westerner were headed out the door with guys for 1500 ST as there were almost no Japanese to take them.
Folks tend to forget that the customer always has the power as we are the ones that have the money.So, if all the japs leave nana / cowboy then prices will go down there also? Hmmm, how can we pull this off?
So, if all the japs leave nana / cowboy then prices will go down there also? Hmmm, how can we pull this off?Thais don't care who gives them money, though, they do like the big spenders better.
Probably a lot easier to get the "farang" and cheap charlie dip shits to leave first.
Funny thing, from the looks of things these days, they already are!
A lot of talk about prices going up and the girls asking for more money. Is there a difference in another part of the world? If so I would like to know where it is located.
I can't afford a Mercedes but I can still have a car to get me to where I want to go. So it just depends on the model of your choice as some are more expensive than others. Just don't buy the extended warranty and rust protection.
What I don't understand is that prices are not going up. Guys say they paying the same 1000 baht for ugly girls that they paid years back. I don't see why the 1000 bahters complain so mut!
Re:2am nana girls@1000baht! You guys do realize these girls are the ones who been on stage for 6 or so hours and werent able to pull a barfine. Try going to rainbow4 at 9 pm and midnight and you will be able to see tthe differnce in looks.
And do it several times-you will notice the same ones are dancing after 11 or so! These leftovers just can't compete with the pretty girls!Makes you wonder why any guy worth his salt would be going to Climax, Insomnia, Bossy, or elsewhere at 2am, all those girls are just sub 1000 baht dregs who aren't good looking enough to be pulled. Must be something wrong with the male other brain.
A lot of talk about prices going up and the girls asking for more money. Is there a difference in another part of the world? If so I would like to know where it is located.
I can't afford a Mercedes but I can still have a car to get me to where I want to go. So it just depends on the model of your choice as some are more expensive than others. Just don't buy the extended warranty and rust protection.Of course you are absolutely correct. Moreover, there inflation that has happened over the year is very similar to the CPI anyway (as is documented ad nauseam here by people trying to make the opposite argument, spuriously). Not to mention that there is a much bigger market with much more variety BECAUSE of the market's attracting a variety of players.
But all of this is moot anyway, because ISG represents only a tiny, puny, irrelevant portion of the overall punters playing and paying, and there's simply no chance to create an effective collusion among mongers. None at all. Therefore anyone posting to this effect is doing it for entirely other reasons than his own benefit, or even the oft-purported benefit of all mongers.
I think 90%+ members of this forum are sick to death of this discussion, and I wish the moderator would ban it. Information on pricing is of course extremely useful. Endless bitching about people overpaying or prices rising is just clutter and has been the direct cause of otherwise helpful members (IMHO such as myself) becoming very uninterested in participating in this forum. Q. E. D.
ps - for the sake of clarity, I am not directing this post to or at anyone. I'm merely responding to the littering of the forum (witness even a week or two ago when there was something like 6 straight pages on this topic), and hoping that we can put the power of the community to actual use and, en masse, suggest that the moderator that we would like to end this nonsense for once and for all.
Western787
02-26-12, 13:42
Of course you are absolutely correct. Moreover, there inflation that has happened over the year is very similar to the CPI anyway (as is documented ad nauseam here by people trying to make the opposite argument, spuriously). Not to mention that there is a much bigger market with much more variety BECAUSE of the market's attracting a variety of players.
But all of this is moot anyway, because ISG represents only a tiny, puny, irrelevant portion of the overall punters playing and paying, and there's simply no chance to create an effective collusion among mongers. None at all. Therefore anyone posting to this effect is doing it for entirely other reasons than his own benefit, or even the oft-purported benefit of all mongers.
I think 90%+ members of this forum are sick to death of this discussion, and I wish the moderator would ban it. Information on pricing is of course extremely useful. Endless bitching about people overpaying or prices rising is just clutter and has been the direct cause of otherwise helpful members (IMHO such as myself) becoming very uninterested in participating in this forum. Q. E. D.
Ps. For the sake of clarity, I am not directing this post to or at anyone. I'm merely responding to the littering of the forum (witness even a week or two ago when there was something like 6 straight pages on this topic) , and hoping that we can put the power of the community to actual use and, en masse, suggest that the moderator that we would like to end this nonsense for once and for all.Thailand is perhaps the largest WG market in the world so while price information from experts who reside here is very valuable to those of us who have only visited short time a few times. There is a futility in trying to impact prices. The market is simply TOO big. In Bangkok alone, it has to be at least 10, 000 plus transactions per night, probably alot more. However I do consider those that reside here as having far more knowlede than ocassional visitors. So I carefully read everything they write. What I find particularly fascinating about this market are several things. 1 the ambiguity factor of G club dancers 2. The ratios of a dollar spend here on "social matters" relative to other major cities in the world. For example, comparing to NYC, its seems the cost of living in Bangkok is approx is one third that of NYC. But more importantly the (dollar assisted) social scene for an average middle aged guy would be approximately 10 times more valuable for each dollar spend in Bangkok. Lets say someone could spend $ USA 60, 000 after tax cash per year in Bangkok which is virtual poverty in NYC. Lets say 20, 000 was for the social factors and 10, 000 was for housing. Excluding food, transportation and miscellaneous. That would mean 60, 000 in Bangkok could be equal to at least after tax 260, 000 in NYC and even even then, I can't even imagine one being to acquire in NYC in pay for play related terms even at after tax $260k in NYC what I believe could be done in Bangkok. The point is the ratio could be far higher than 10 to 1, it might be 20 to 1 in regards to the social factor, even if could find it in NYC. Tokyo probably similar too, not sure. These are the kind of questions experts might have valuable insights into.
LittleBigMan
02-26-12, 14:13
Help!
My thaigirlfriend wants me to buy a house in isaan for the family. You know-I don't want to overpay and ruin the market, can I get a range pf proper pricing.This is the reason you are having such a hard time comprehending overpaying for pussy? You are talking about building a house and overpaying? You are a farang you will overpay whether you like it or not!
Let me ask you this? What is the percentage wherever you come from that you would build a house for your girlfriend family. America the answer is no, England no too, Germany no too? Etc. Etc? As for Thailand what would be the percentage that she would ask a Thai man to build a house for her family? The big chance is that the Thai man would get some recycle material and nail and put up a tin can shack for them and that would be a upgrade. As for you when it comes to a house in this particular case just considering the request and not married is overpaying out of the gate. If you don't she will keep you in the pocket until somthing better comes along or build her the house?
LBM
I'm merely responding to the littering of the forum (witness even a week or two ago when there was something like 6 straight pages on this topic),.This thread has been been getting so boring, it hasn't been worth reading much lately (with the odd exception). I will be returning to BKK next week and will post on places where I found great new girls. Would be nice to have great girl mongering experience reports dominating this thread! Guys who want the cheapest should really leave Bangkok, or arrange a girl to come to Bangkok. I will be calling a girl I know in Prachinburi with D cups to come to Bangkok specially for me. She is a bit older but still a lot youger than me and hard up for money so I will get a good mult-session deal. I can't be bothered to go to her. Then I will move on to some soapy / oily / bar girls that I have been pining for (known reliable super girls that are always fab). Will still make time to try somone completely new, but only if irrestible.
My Bangkok trip was awesome. For all those looking for some action newly opened BOSSY near hotel skyotel in Batuna area is the best place. Its a disc with a entry charge of 300 batt with one drink. Worth it
Place is full of thai girls + some beautiful tashkent and ubeki girls. Low st and lt prices. Must visit place.
Enjoy life.Nishu. Thanks for this. Back to BKK in less than 5 weeks. What sort of time is best to be there and I presume busy Thurs / Fri / Sat?
Thanks Sir.
So, if all the japs leave nana / cowboy then prices will go down there also? Hmmm, how can we pull this off?Get a megahorn and walk thru the complexes at 1am. Announce: "Free Sushi on Soi 11". They will leave quickly.
Juist a comment from a previous contributor. It was mantioned that the girls going to the disco's are the left overs from nana and other places. I do believe that to be incorrect. I do know from personal knowledge that many of the girls work in places that are not busy on a certain night or they are looking for another round of activities for the night. I have a couple of friends who have done this and I will tell you they are quite good looking and have very nice figures.
Now personally I don't hit the disco scene, but I have to assume that other girls are in the same situation and like to add to their bank account. Some ever will dance the night away as it is also fun to them.
Western787
02-26-12, 21:49
Juist a comment from a previous contributor. It was mantioned that the girls going to the disco's are the left overs from nana and other places. I do believe that to be incorrect. I do know from personal knowledge that many of the girls work in places that are not busy on a certain night or they are looking for another round of activities for the night. I have a couple of friends who have done this and I will tell you they are quite good looking and have very nice figures.
Now personally I don't hit the disco scene, but I have to assume that other girls are in the same situation and like to add to their bank account. Some ever will dance the night away as it is also fun to them.Seems to be mixing up apples and oranges. The original commenter was referring to go go's like Rainbow 4 and bar fines, then someone else mixed this in with discos like Insomnia. Climax and Bossy. The later category very much influenced by the spillover exiting from soapies, and given the astonishingly large number of massage girls working in Bangkok, its hard to believe you'd necessarily by 2 am always run out of top end FLs in these clubs.
There is nothing new under the sun. As usual over 90% of new girls I try are throwaways, one and done. This trip I am batting 0 for 2, so sticking it mostly to those gems found in the haystack collected over the years. Luckily some of these are still available to me, while others have moved on & disappeared from my usual haunting grounds, as far as I can tell. Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels.
The other day my TG was sucking the banana for an hour, damn she is good, with the scenery of a bubble butt in the background. Then we proceeded to bare spoon humping doggie style, and wound up the second hour with BLS & CIM. Damage 4K or the equivalent of four 30 minute STs at 1000 B apiece. Fab deal & fully intending to repeat.
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.
"I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."
HotStud251
02-27-12, 05:26
Nishu. Thanks for this. Back to BKK in less than 5 weeks. What sort of time is best to be there and I presume busy Thurs / Fri / Sat?
Thanks Sir.For BKK anytime is the best time. LOL
I am looking forward to the rainy season.
The airport immigration queues are bad at the moment, far too many "dumb tourists" around and generally not very nice at all.
Will be happy when we get back to low season and back to nice short queues at Swampy and much less human traffic on the footpaths / shops / malls / bars etc.
Humbug!
Red Square
02-28-12, 07:47
Last time I was in Bangkok, the Bangkok Beat bar was kind of slow / lacking talent. Has it picked back up? Or still more of the same?
Sushilover808
02-28-12, 12:41
I will have a few open minded female friends joining me in BKK next week. I am familiar with the Nana area so in the past, I have taken a female friend to Angelwitch because of their classy & somewhat artistic shows & to Carnival on the 3rd floor of Nana Plaza for the mechanical bull. These two bars were very nice & not pushy with lady drinks.
I also plan on taking them to the Bier Garten on Sukhumvit Soi 7 for the live music & 3 litre beer servings.
Any recommendations in the Soi Cowboy area of similar fun bars? Thank you in advance for your helpful recommendations.
ChrisMonger3
02-28-12, 14:07
Arrived in Bangkok on a morning flight. Rested for a few hours and headed to Annie's. It is fairly simple to find it. Any newbie and prelocate it on the internet. As advised in the forum and website, took a taxi to a near by hotel. In my case J. W. Marriot. When you come out of the hotel, turn left and walk about 50 to 75 metres and you come to Annie's.
About 25 girls were in the fish bowl. I took No 28. Good energetic service. Managed 3 shots and took the allocated 2 hours. Got a decent upstair room. Price 2500 baht at entrance.
Chrismonger3
ChrisMonger3
02-28-12, 14:24
I also want to add that though the girls on the website has names with letters, what I saw in the fish bowl were numbers. I met 28 on my first visit to this place and as I can remember her name was "Nam." May be I missed a trick but I cold not locate ones on the website in the fish bowl. If other seniors who visit this place know anything on this let me know. It was my first time here. So I might have missed something.
The photo's of the rooms that were on the website however very accurate.
Chrismonger3
There is nothing new under the sun. As usual over 90% of new girls I try are throwaways, one and done. This trip I am batting 0 for 2, so sticking it mostly to those gems found in the haystack collected over the years. Luckily some of these are still available to me, while others have moved on & disappeared from my usual haunting grounds, as far as I can tell. Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels.
The other day my TG was sucking the banana for an hour, damn she is good, with the scenery of a bubble butt in the background. Then we proceeded to bare spoon humping doggie style, and wound up the second hour with BLS & CIM. Damage 4K or the equivalent of four 30 minute STs at 1000 B apiece. Fab deal & fully intending to repeat.
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.
"I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."Great post, hilarious beliefs but mostly true for me too. PS:There may have been someone on the grassy knowl though.
On more than 1 occasion I notice pink pearls post come with medical tests for his hookers. Whats up with that?
In theory its a great idea. But in practice if a girl gets her own test, it would make me wonder WHY? Is she having unprotected with every tom, dick, and somchai for an extre 200 baht?Many of them are for no extra baht. Hope people realize that.
I am looking forward to the rainy season.
The airport immigration queues are bad at the moment, far too many "dumb tourists" around and generally not very nice at all.
Will be happy when we get back to low season and back to nice short queues at Swampy and much less human traffic on the footpaths / shops / malls / bars etc.
Humbug!I arrived yesterday at 7. 30am and queued exactly 1 hour at immigration, despite sprinting off the plane to beat the other 300 passengers. I suggested to the immigration officer that it didn't make tourists feel very welcome and perhaps this was their intention? I received a scowl for my efforts.
Luckily all thoughts of annoyance at the wait were put to one side when Jet Airways failed to deliver my bag."Still in Mumbai, Sir".
Great start.
Wolvenvacht
02-28-12, 20:57
Any recommendations in the Soi Cowboy area of similar fun bars?.Suzie Wong is my favorite. Not pushy for LD, nice shows, good music (not too loud) and a nice line-up of ladies.
I arrived yesterday at 7. 30am and queued exactly 1 hour at immigration, despite sprinting off the plane to beat the other 300 passengers. I suggested to the immigration officer that it didn't make tourists feel very welcome and perhaps this was their intention? I received a scowl for my efforts.
Luckily all thoughts of annoyance at the wait were put to one side when Jet Airways failed to deliver my bag."Still in Mumbai, Sir".
Great start.It is bad, but you got balls. I have seen them jack people up there. I don't know for what, but I personally would not give them any problems.
There is nothing new under the sun. As usual over 90% of new girls I try are throwaways, one and done. This trip I am batting 0 for 2, so sticking it mostly to those gems found in the haystack collected over the years. Luckily some of these are still available to me, while others have moved on & disappeared from my usual haunting grounds, as far as I can tell. Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels.
The other day my TG was sucking the banana for an hour, damn she is good, with the scenery of a bubble butt in the background. Then we proceeded to bare spoon humping doggie style, and wound up the second hour with BLS & CIM. Damage 4K or the equivalent of four 30 minute STs at 1000 B apiece. Fab deal & fully intending to repeat.
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.
"I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.""Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels."
I nominate for line of the year.
As to Bumrungrad, no idea that Thais are getting doctor visits for 350, I thought it was around 700 for everyone, unless they have gone through the roof surcharging farang. Why on earth go to Bumrungrad for an HIV test when you can go to the Red X clinic which is highly professional, fast, efficient, without hassle, and very anonymous. I believe it runs something like 3-400 baht. Last time I went there, if you went in with a partner, testing was free for the duo.
On more than 1 occasion I notice pink pearls post come with medical tests for his hookers. Whats up with that?
In theory its a great idea. But in practice if a girl gets her own test, it would make me wonder WHY? Is she having unprotected with every tom, dick, and somchai for an extre 200 baht?I send or take the girls for the test and pay for them too. If she is negative then she is probably much safer than one who is of unknown status re how she would test. If she is positive you have nothing to do with her & thank the pooning gods you just dodged a bullet. So this is just one of various ways to make yourself safer if you prefer not to have sex with condoms.
Sushilover808
02-29-12, 01:29
Suzie Wong is my favorite. Not pushy for LD, nice shows, good music (not too loud) and a nice line-up of ladies.Thanks for your reply! I forgot to mention that it is one of the girl's birthday next week. Is there anyplace that she can be somewhat interactive with the girls? I'm not saying sex in a back room but something on stage as part of the show.
Tony Hoeprano
02-29-12, 01:40
I'm not one to preach on raw-dawging hookers in Thailand, but don't kid yourself just because a bar girl says she has a neg-HIV that she is in the clear. A false positive can occur up to 3 months after infection. Or she could be lying about having taken the damn test in the first place. A bar girl saying she is clean and free of STD is like a blind woman saying you're you're a hansum fella.
Member #4611
02-29-12, 05:50
I arrived yesterday at 7. 30am and queued exactly 1 hour at immigration.Some might find this useful. Not exactly cheap BUT includes transport. Not tried it. But some of the greeters are worth a going over.
http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html
FK
Wolvenvacht
02-29-12, 07:31
Thanks for your reply! I forgot to mention that it is one of the girl's birthday next week. Is there anyplace that she can be somewhat interactive with the girls? I'm not saying sex in a back room but something on stage as part of the show.I have never seen it happen in Suzie Wong, but I may have just missed it.
Better ask the mamasan if such a thing is possible on stage.
Of course if you pay one of Suzie Wong's girls a LD, then she will come and sit with you and you can become somewhat "interactive" with her.
I have never seen it happen in Suzie Wong, but I may have just missed it. Better ask the mamasan if such a thing is possible on stage. Of course if you pay one of Suzie Wong's girls a LD, then she will come and sit with you and you can become somewhat "interactive" with her.If you want to have your girl get up on stage at Suzie Wong, find a friendly mamasan (or "'lead" server).
Then throw some money around, buy some drinks for some dancers (the "bi-er" the better), get them to "make out" with your girl, finger their p*ssies while your girl DFKs them, throw some more money around (tips), more drinks (tee-keee-laaa), etc.
Get your girl to hike up her skirt, and take off her shirt (sexy black underwear will do), and tell the mamasan you want her up on the floor / stage (tip, tip).
Loosen them up with alcohol and baht, and it will all come true. PM me if you want a wingman (they know me there). ;)
Then take them back to your room and have an orgy. Easy, if you step up to the plate and are willing to "pay to play." :)
Tony Hoeprano
02-29-12, 08:00
Some might find this useful. Not exactly cheap BUT includes transport. Not tried it. But some of the greeters are worth a going over.
http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html
FKI might try this. At least you can get the rock star treatment upon arrival. And maybe even a date if you can charm the greeter LOL
It is bad, but you got balls. I have seen them jack people up there. I don't know for what, but I personally would not give them any problems.I did wait until he had stamped my passport before commenting. :)
Some might find this useful. Not exactly cheap BUT includes transport. Not tried it. But some of the greeters are worth a going over.
http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html
FKThe other option, if you fly Buysiness, is to choose Thai, in which case you can use the fast track line on the extreme right of the immigration area. I came also from Mumbai some weeks ago and arrived more or less at the same time than the Jet flight, but I was out, luckily with my luggage, in less than 15 minutes.
LittleBigMan
02-29-12, 11:55
I'm not one to preach on raw-dawging hookers in Thailand, but don't kid yourself just because a bar girl says she has a neg-HIV that she is in the clear. A false positive can occur up to 3 months after infection. Or she could be lying about having taken the damn test in the first place. A bar girl saying she is clean and free of STD is like a blind woman saying you're you're a hansum fella.This is very true but it works both ways too! Some guys think it is a one way street and go through more girls than the girl has gone through customers?
LBM
AussieDoug
02-29-12, 16:06
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.It is very possible that Bumrungrad is doing bar girls test at a discount as a public service, I struck the same thing in Hong Kong 30 years before, a large GP clinic was giving free Hepatitis check for food handlers.
Mr Enternational
02-29-12, 23:03
Finger a agogo dancer pussy on stage?
You want the guy carried out on a stretcher!
Man ohh man. What bars are you guys going to?Come on down to Pattaya and go to X-Zone. Not only do you get to finger, but they encourage you to fist them as well. I had one fist in a girl's pussy and the other in her ass at the same time. They put condoms on my hands and lubed them up beforehand though.
Come on down to Pattaya and go to X-Zone. Not only do you get to finger, but they encourage you to fist them. I had one fist in a girl's pussy and the other in her ass at the same time. They put condoms on my hands and lubed them up beforehand though.I know you are serious, but I cracked up on your read. They put condoms on your hand? WTF. That is hilarious.
Wolvenvacht
02-29-12, 23:15
Finger a agogo dancer pussy on stage?
You want the guy carried out on a stretcher!
Man ohh man. What bars are you guys going to?Suzie Wong. I once licked a dancer's pussy on stage. I was sitting next to the stage and one of the dancers came very close to me, teasing me with her nude pussy. Well, my tongue was faster than she was. I did give her a LD afterwards, of course.
I know you are serious, but I cracked up on your read. They put condoms on your hand? WTF. That is hilarious.More like sandwich bags and bear grease.
It is very possible that Bumrungrad is doing bar girls test at a discount as a public service, I struck the same thing in Hong Kong 30 years before, a large GP clinic was giving free Hepatitis check for food handlers.It is concievable. One TG I took there said it was the Thai rate. I've also been told there are clinics where working girls can get it done free.
I'm not one to preach on raw-dawging hookers in Thailand, but don't kid yourself just because a bar girl says she has a neg-HIV that she is in the clear. A false positive can occur up to 3 months after infection. Or she could be lying about having taken the damn test in the first place. A bar girl saying she is clean and free of STD is like a blind woman saying you're you're a hansum fella.This is why I insist on seeing the HIV test results with picture & other identification on the test papers. Otherwise it's a waste of time as far as my purposes are concerned.
As to Bumrungrad, no idea that Thais are getting doctor visits for 350, I thought it was around 700 for everyone, unless they have gone through the roof surcharging farang. Why on earth go to Bumrungrad for an HIV test when you can go to the Red X clinic which is highly professional, fast, efficient, without hassle, and very anonymous. I believe it runs something like 3-400 baht. Last time I went there, if you went in with a partner, testing was free for the duo.On the phone they told me 1000 & up for doctor's fees, which vary from doctor to doctor, and they wouldn't give me an exact fee for the doctor before seeing one. Re testing where is the Red X located? I like Bumrungrad for it's convenience being close to my hotel and it's rep as a world class hospital. I also require the HIV results on paper, in English, and with picture and other identification, all of which Bumrungrad provides, so "anonymous" would not suit my needs, at least if I sent her alone. The process for being tested involves filling out an application, getting your mug shot, seeing a doctor, giving your blood for the test and seeing the doctor again re the results an hour or two later. The first two steps are for the first time only, and though there will likely be some waits, they are seldom over 30 minutes. This isn't an issue for you if you send the girl on her own. But, yes, Bumrungrad has a rep for being more expensive than other hospitals and clinics in Bangkok, let alone Thailand as a whole. It seems the feeling I've gotten from Thai people is that it is a more quality institution as well.
Suzie Wong. I once licked a dancer's pussy on stage. I was sitting next to the stage and one of the dancers came very close to me, teasing me with her nude pussy. Well, my tongue was faster than she was. I did give her a LD afterwards, of course.Sweaty and salty?
I might try this. At least you can get the rock star treatment upon arrival. And maybe even a date if you can charm the greeter LOLThe total for both fast track and car service appears to be 1900 Bhat. Jamaica has something similar, I might try this in a few weeks
Wolvenvacht
03-01-12, 07:44
Sweaty and salty?Sweet and spicy!
I will have a few open minded female friends joining me in BKK next week. I am familiar with the Nana area so in the past, I have taken a female friend to Angelwitch because of their classy & somewhat artistic shows & to Carnival on the 3rd floor of Nana Plaza for the mechanical bull. These two bars were very nice & not pushy with lady drinks.
I also plan on taking them to the Bier Garten on Sukhumvit Soi 7 for the live music & 3 litre beer servings.
Any recommendations in the Soi Cowboy area of similar fun bars? Thank you in advance for your helpful recommendations.Not sure if you're just planning on sightseeing or a little more, but maybe this helps.
My GF and I spent time at Soi Cowboy last weekend and bar fined a very energetic and accommodating girl from Shark (where we were impressed by the range and quality of girls, albeit the lack of a show). She sat down next to my girl while I was in the restroom, mistakenly thinking she was Thai (she is Filipino) and they were already exploring each other's pussies by the time I returned from what I thought was a pretty quick restroom break!
Next door is Baracca where GF enjoyed the glass floors and mirrors (the girls dance with loose miniskirts and nothing underneath).
Nana is really nowhere near as nice as Soi Cowboy (and I wouldn't take anyone to Patpong anymore). Angelwitch has good shows, but the bucking horse you refer to is now a ladyboy bar. And seemed to be closed from what we saw from standing on the other side.
We also enjoyed Climax, a nightclub which gets going from around midnight, on soi 11 (Sukhumvit). Access is through a car park under a hotel on the right hand side about half way down the soi. It's signposted. The range of freelancers inside was pretty good and the music. Live and DJ. Is good.
Hope that helps!
GF is back home now and already asking how soon we can go back for a repeat.
Have fun!
It is concievable. One TG I took there said it was the Thai rate. I've also been told there are clinics where working girls can get it done free.
This is why I insist on seeing the HIV test results with picture & other identification on the test papers. Otherwise it's a waste of time as far as my purposes are concerned.
On the phone they told me 1000 & up for doctor's fees, which vary from doctor to doctor, and they wouldn't give me an exact fee for the doctor before seeing one. Re testing where is the Red X located? I like Bumrungrad for it's convenience being close to my hotel and it's rep as a world class hospital. I also require the HIV results on paper, in English, and with picture and other identification, all of which Bumrungrad provides, so "anonymous" would not suit my needs, at least if I sent her alone. The process for being tested involves filling out an application, getting your mug shot, seeing a doctor, giving your blood for the test and seeing the doctor again re the results an hour or two later. The first two steps are for the first time only, and though there will likely be some waits, they are seldom over 30 minutes. This isn't an issue for you if you send the girl on her own. But, yes, Bumrungrad has a rep for being more expensive than other hospitals and clinics in Bangkok, let alone Thailand as a whole. It seems the feeling I've gotten from Thai people is that it is a more quality institution as well.Bumrungrad is a first class institution, it is just that the stories coming out of there about surcharging and price gouging in the past few years are becoming common. Bangkok General and Samitivej are also of equal caliber, same pricing, maybe a tad less chance of getting gouged? Yeah, if you want picture I'd, then Red X anonymous isn't going to be for you, but why not just go down with the girl and test together, then you get results together. The Red X clinic is near the Ratchadamri BTS station, need to get out and walk south towards Silom another 10 minutes, big octagonal beehive like building on your right, big sign saying Australian / Thai HIV research center or something like that. I tend to only use the fancy intl hospitals for major stuff, or if I want a guaranteed proficient English speaking doctor. Other stuff, far better to go elsewhere.
I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
Thanks
I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
ThanksThere is a mamasan / manager walking around. Tell her what number you want and she will tell the girl to go to your table.
Wolvenvacht
03-01-12, 20:16
I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
ThanksIf your tilac is in a "line-up" dance then you can just smile at her and call her over, even during the dance. That is indeed the whole idea of the line-up.
If she is in a choreographed dance or show then you will have to wait until she is finished or (your best bet) , tell her number to the mamasan or a waitress who will take care that she will join you after the dance.
The total for both fast track and car service appears to be 1900 Bhat. Jamaica has something similar, I might try this in a few weeksI have been to Jamaica well over 150 times and I have never heard of this. The closest thing I found was http://www.airportvipservices.com/service.php?sid=75 Which seems to have world wide service but at a very steep price: $385 (US).
It has never taken me more than 20 min to completely clear into Jamaica, even with several planes landing at once. Jamaica has mastered the art of processing tourists with great efficiency. I'm usually in my rental car within 30 minutes of touching down.
Pogo
I have been to Jamaica well over 150 times and I have never heard of this. The closest thing I found was.
http://www.airportvipservices.com/service.php?sid=75
Which seems to have world wide service but at a very steep price: $385 (US).
It has never taken me more than 20 min to completely clear into Jamaica, even with several planes landing at once. Jamaica has mastered the art of processing tourists with great efficiency. I'm usually in my rental car within 30 minutes of touching down.
PogoThe jamaican version is only for fast track VIP departures if you purchase access to their lounge. It was 30 dollars the last time used it and you are whisked thru immigration and of course gain access to the Mobay lounge. The lounge opened last year and I used it in July. Same service is provided in Kingston.
If your tilac is in a "line-up" dance then you can just smile at her and call her over, even during the dance. That is indeed the whole idea of the line-up.
If she is in a choreographed dance or show then you will have to wait until she is finished or (your best bet) , tell her number to the mamasan or a waitress who will take care that she will join you after the dance.
There is a mamasan / manager walking around. Tell her what number you want and she will tell the girl to go to your table.Thanks Guys, wish I had clarified this in advance. Ah well there is always neXXXt time.
Member #4611
03-02-12, 09:08
The other option, if you fly Buysiness, is to choose Thai, in which case you can use the fast track line on the extreme right of the immigration area. I came also from Mumbai some weeks ago and arrived more or less at the same time than the Jet flight, but I was out, luckily with my luggage, in less than 15 minutes.Yes, I generally go this route as well. Useful. There is also Fast track in between the two regular immigration areas.
FK
Thanks Guys, wish I had clarified this in advance. Ah well there is always neXXXt time.I actually have a related question. In practice, how do you pay the barfine? Walk up to the bartender and say "one beer and number 17 please"? :P.
I've been hobbying in europe but going to Bangkok for the first time soon and haven't been able to find an answer to such a basic and maybe stoopid question.
C
GentleBoner
03-02-12, 17:10
I actually have a related question. In practice, how do you pay the barfine? Walk up to the bartender and say "one beer and number 17 please"? :P.
I've been hobbying in europe but going to Bangkok for the first time soon and haven't been able to find an answer to such a basic and maybe stoopid question.
CThe girl will ask you to. Just give her the money. Or the mamasan. Or the bartender. It's not nearly as difficult as it sounds.
GentleBoner
03-02-12, 17:13
I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
It depends on the bar. Baccara is Japanese style, which means the girls are taught not to bother the clients unless they're called for. Japanese guys don't want girls pestering them, and if you've ever had some unattractive girl sitting right next to you and not leaving, you can understand their logic. So if you want a girl in Baccara, it's often best to ask the waitress. Just ask for her by number, or you can point.
In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.
Wolvenvacht
03-02-12, 20:56
In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.If you are shy and do not dare to approach the girls, go to Afterskool in Soi Cowboy. Guaranteed to have at least three girls asking you for a ladydrink before your but hits the barstool.
Wolvenvacht
03-02-12, 20:59
The girl will ask you to. Just give her the money. Or the mamasan. Or the bartender. It's not nearly as difficult as it sounds.In Suzie Wong they actually even give you a printed receipt for the bar-fine.
I actually have a related question. In practice, how do you pay the barfine? Walk up to the bartender and say "one beer and number 17 please"? :P.
I've been hobbying in europe but going to Bangkok for the first time soon and haven't been able to find an answer to such a basic and maybe stoopid question.
CThe bar fine you pay when you take the girl away with you, so a deal has been done by then. Often the mama-san acts and she will make sure that the barrfine is added to the bill and the story is short.
Suzie Wong lineup is rather poor now, with many very short puffy girls. Sister bar Shebas is a much better line up if you like slimmer girls like me. Shows are the same, even the bad ones like fire show, ping pong and needle show. Checked out Baccarat, and noticed that many girls chosen by Japanese customers were very plain looking to my taste. Pale washed out makeup look, pointy nose and small mouth. Still a few very nice lookers to my taste. Had drinks with two Buri-ram sisters whose faces were so alike I thought they were twins at first, although Tuk-a-taa was taller (possibly the tallest girl in the place) than older sister Taan. Just 1 year age difference. Both had big lips and big eyes and danced better than most girls. Didn't ask if they do double fantasy bookings. Had been with Tuk-a-taa previously.
The bar fine you pay when you take the girl away with you, so a deal has been done by then. Often the mama-san acts and she will make sure that the barrfine is added to the bill and the story is short.Having asked the girl if she wants to go with you, or be "bar-fined", you can just hand her the bar-fine cash, and she will go off and get her normal clothes on. You can well discuss with her first, how long she can stay with you, and the price. I am experienced but rarely discuss the price as girls take it for granted that I will pay them properly, as I don't have a stingy image. Probably because I speak Thai well too. As pointed out, bar-fine can be added to your bill. Any bar waitress can organise if a mamasan is not handy. So its simple. No need to be shy about it, as bar-fines are happening all the time and girls want it, unless they don't like the customer or are waiting for their regular customer, or having a period.
Be warned, that if you are really keen on a girl, don't take ages to get to the bar-fine part, otherwise, a guy who knows the girl already could just walk in off the street and bar-fine the girl imediately, even if you have been buying her drinks. Only take long enough to make the right choice on a girl that will suit to you.
There are some special dancers who go with customers only very rarely, but 90% of girls are keen to be bar-fined ASAP. Avoid Coyote Bars.
Japanese guys don't want girls pestering them, and if you've ever had some unattractive girl sitting right next to you and not leaving, you can understand their logic. So if you want a girl in Baccara, it's often best to ask the waitress. Just ask for her by number, or you can point.
In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.This is one good thing about Bacarra IMHO. I hate annoying girls. Its not hard to make it known you are interested, just with signals. I find I can just give a girl a look or a wink, point to her, and make a drinking motion with my hand. She will understand I am offering to buy her a drink very easily. If she is unsure, she will point point to herself with a questioning look, and then you simply nod a Yes.
If you are shy, you can use a waitress to help, but be very sure she understands which is the correct girl. There are so many girls there.
You can get a knock back (or just nothing happens) when the girl already is with another customer, but sometimes have to be patient till she finishes dancing and has gone to toilet, etc.
ChrisMonger3
03-03-12, 08:18
Has anyone visited dr BJ on soi 7/2. Lately? How are their services. I walked upto it few nights ago. But didn't venture in. While pondering what to do, I met a girl at the place two doors next to it and spent the evening + dinner with her. Costed me 1800 baht inclusive of room and FS.
Chrismonger3
ChrisMonger3
03-03-12, 08:29
Had a second visit to Annie's. I personally feel, if they take the full two hours promised and minimum of two shots. The money spent is worth it here. This time choose a younger one. I think experience matters as the service and attentiveness was not as good as the previous encounter. But saying that, it wasnt as bad as some of the other places.
Chrismonger3
ChrisMonger3
03-03-12, 08:39
visited angel massage palour on sukhumvit soi 26. ask the cab to take me to tara imperial hotel and then just find soi 26 and walk down a few metres. the first lane to your right, you will see the place. i went in the early afternoon. surprisingly most girls were available. they have a good system for choosing girls where you look through a catelogue of the girls pictures. there are stickers placed on the page indicating if the girl is working today, busy or available. once you have an idea of 3 or 4 girls you like, you may peep your head into the room they are seated and do the final choosing. before i peeped my head in to choose rina came out. and as she was one of my choices, i didn't hestitate to take her. i like ones with big boobs.
her service was very good and her tits were amazing. she has some nice tatoo's on her back. which was a turn on. her massage was good. the only hitch. i do however feel the cost for massage and fs is too pricey. but since the service was very good, in this instance. i have no issues.
chrismonger3
Today had a look in Shark. Girls looked like clones of Baccara girls. Weird hairdos, bright lighting to make them look pale and washed out, and no real stunners to my taste. Didn't stay that long. Decided to look at Nana Plaza first time since last Nov I think. Vegas did not impress me. Decided to try Rainbow 4 again. Their lineup was extremely impressive. I have never seen so many stunners at one time even to Farang taste, not just for Japanese. This was a vast improvement on my previous visit, many months back, even though was past 11PM.
I was looking at No. 51 (incredible body) when she got called by a Japanese looking customer. They soon both disappeared (ST?). I was amazed to see her back dancing on the stage no more than 40 mins later. She didn't even miss her rotation of the 3 dance groups, I believe. I then spyed a girl from a distance who looked a bit bored but whose face reminded me of Dolores O'Riordan (of the Cranberries). I called her over for a drink but immediately regretted it. I spoke to her in Thai but she insisted on answering in semi-unintelligible English where normal girls will speak Thai. She admitted she was drunk, which seemed an understatement. Could not tell if was alcohol or something else. She didn't touch her drink and wanted to be bar-fined immediately, but I was taking it easy, so she said she would go away. Later she came back, but I had no interest any longer.
A customer walked in with easily the most stunning girl in the room, dressed like to go to a classy club, but seemingly returned to the bar and I was suprised to learn she worked there. Looked like mamasan was trying to get him to BF her again, asuming had taken her away earlier.
I liked 106 but she seemed to be busy with another customer.
I had watched an Issan girl with a great body 048, but she didn't want to look at anybody (seemed distant) and her jaw looked slightly strange due to braces, so ended up taking her friend / sister for short time instead. It was 1AM+ and she only asked for 2K, maybe because she could see I spoke Thai and was experienced. She said she normally would ask for 2. 5K. She performed quite okay but clearly not experienced, and complained I took a long time to come, but really not more than 15 mins of actual screwing. Is that too much? Anyway she was a quite enjoyable fuck, so that is what matters. Probably won't repeat unless her hot sister comes along too.
Really there were so many hot looking girls to pick from of various styles. Very limited fatties though.
Has anyone visited dr BJ on soi 7/2. Lately? How are their services. I walked upto it few nights ago. But didn't venture in. While pondering what to do, I met a girl at the place two doors next to it and spent the evening + dinner with her. Costed me 1800 baht inclusive of room and FS.
Chrismonger3I was there end of Jan. 700 or 1000 for BJ CIM depending on girl you choose. I thought the place was decent.
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