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Wolvenvacht
04-09-12, 07:48
Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.


Not even Australia has a "free market" healthcare.

As found in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Australia

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Health care in Australia is provided by both private and government institutions. The Minister for Health and Ageing, currently Tanya Plibersek, administers national health policy, elements of which (such as the operation of hospitals) are overseen by individual states.

In Australia the current system, known as Medicare, was instituted in 1984. It coexists with a private health system. Medicare is funded partly by a 1. 5% income tax levy (with exceptions for low-income earners) , but mostly out of general revenue. An additional levy of 1% is imposed on high-income earners without private health insurance. As well as Medicare, there is a separate Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme that considerably subsidises a range of prescription medications. In 2007-08, Australia spent 9. 1% of GDP on health care, or A$4874 per capita.

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Unless there is a levy on "better off" people, it is impossible to have universal healthcare. None of the private insurance companies will "solidarize" their income to help the poor and the "bad" risks will not find insurance for any reasonable price.

Wait until you get a heart condition or a chronic disease and see how fast your insurance company either drops you or increases your rates. See, if you can then still laud the benefits of the free market.

Goatscrot
04-09-12, 08:47
Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?Again, we are not talking about communism here. I can only think of two states that would be considered "communist" in this day and age, North Korea and Cuba. The rest of the world's govs are a blend of market capitalism and socialistic elements. Social Security is a "socialist" construct as well. Using the word "commie" sounds quite 1950s Red Scarish. It is really not a valid term in this discussion as we are not talking about gov ownership of the means of production.

The issue is how to provide the best health care outcomes we can with minimal cost to a large population. Most of the developed world uses a blend of public and private to deliver this care. A blending of these two elements seems to give the best outcomes and tends to be more cost efficient for all involved. Of course commons sense and statistics will tell you this. The US has poorer outcomes and a lower lifespan than most countries with fully developed public systems. One of the reasons is that most public systems stress primary care and prevention as one way to take the burden off the system. In the US this is not seen as people put off going to the Dr until they are VERY ill due to costs. Also a marketing costs and profits are not seen with the admin end of a public system either. In the US Medicare's admin costs are 15, well below that of private insurance companies. The more you spend on admin costs, the less you see going towards patient care.

This is not a matter of "free market" vs "commie (the term in 2012 still makes me laugh)," it is about outcomes and cost and looking at systems in developed countries around the world, the US comes in at the bottom of the list. It is time to look at see what works and emulate it, not try to force in a system based on some silly dogma.

Goatscrot
04-09-12, 08:49
Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.And believe it or not, health care outcomes in Cuba tend to be amazing. More Drs per-capita than anyplace else in the world.

Macrot
04-09-12, 09:04
Hi,

Visited Poseidon Friday, only 8 WG left in fish bowl due to Songkran, mostly from Issan. Below is my mongering report:

Name : Dunno.

Boob : C Cup.

Height : 4'11"

Duration : 2 hours.

Attractiveness : 7/10.

BJ : 5/10.

HJ :/10 enthuaistic.

Rimming : None given, dunno how to ask. Cannot speak Thai.

GFE : 6/10.

Overall : 6/10.

Cost : 2500 baht up front, plus 100baht for the ice latte she ordered.

Remark : constantly pestering for tip.

Choose WG from fish bowl, they sat under pink light which make them more alluring. The fish bowl at second floor, battleground on 6th floor. Once in room, she switch on warm water for bath tub 4 ft x 8 ft. Man sit with leg spread on her lap, she use hand / boob to massage little brother. She wash everywhere from toe to neck. The back washing and massage is nice.

After bath dried up and proceed to bed. Start with leg, nipple, armpit, ball licking. Then BJ and cow girl, end with missionary. There are still 30 minutes after the deed, so she massage me again for the remaining 30 minutes.

Pussy loose for such a small lady. Apart from the constant request fro tips, overall good experience.

Macrot out

LittleBigMan
04-09-12, 11:54
Again, we are not talking about communism here. I can only think of two states that would be considered "communist" in this day and age, North Korea and Cuba. The rest of the world's govs are a blend of market capitalism and socialistic elements. Social Security is a "socialist" construct as well. Using the word "commie" sounds quite 1950s Red Scarish. It is really not a valid term in this discussion as we are not talking about gov ownership of the means of production.

The issue is how to provide the best health care outcomes we can with minimal cost to a large population. Most of the developed world uses a blend of public and private to deliver this care. A blending of these two elements seems to give the best outcomes and tends to be more cost efficient for all involved. Of course commons sense and statistics will tell you this. The US has poorer outcomes and a lower lifespan than most countries with fully developed public systems. One of the reasons is that most public systems stress primary care and prevention as one way to take the burden off the system. In the US this is not seen as people put off going to the Dr until they are VERY ill due to costs. Also a marketing costs and profits are not seen with the admin end of a public system either. In the US Medicare's admin costs are 15, well below that of private insurance companies. The more you spend on admin costs, the less you see going towards patient care.

This is not a matter of "free market" vs "commie (the term in 2012 still makes me laugh)," it is about outcomes and cost and looking at systems in developed countries around the world, the US comes in at the bottom of the list. It is time to look at see what works and emulate it, not try to force in a system based on some silly dogma.Goatscrot,

Easy on the King of Jomtien! You got to know that Daddy07 is from the Joe MacCarthy era plus he is from the Midwest! Until a few years ago he thought we Asian all look alike too? He use to go to work with a Tin Can cowboy hat and a pair of snake skin booths? Each greeting went like this Howdy Daddy!

See many Americans put off health care because they take this attitude that it is a free world and its my body! Don't want anyone or the country to tell them what to do! My older brother was such a person today he lays in a military long term hospital with throat and lung cancer waiting to die given up! Two years ago his doctor at the Veterans hospital suggested he go and have a check and it was free all he had to do was go in the next room and if he had done that things would certainly be different instead he said why " fix something that isn't broken ". Today I'm sure he thinks about that day?

LBM / Howdy!

Golfinho
04-09-12, 17:24
Milk the tit, military lifers. The most entitlement bunch there is, when the entitlement is all for themselves. And, they're anti-communist, too. Without irony.

Dr BJ
04-09-12, 18:22
Hi, BJ here (again!)

I had a business meeting recently and the person I was meeting insisted on meeting at Spanky's in Nana (odd place to try and discuss business I know but that's what they wanted). There is a fine young lady there who I met in the Pattaya branch when I was down there for a Christmas party back in December. On that occasion the demon alcohol caught me out and as soon as the condom went on it was all over. I have taken her out of Nana a few times which has made the rest of the girls very reluctant to entertain me, I'm sure most of you are familiar with this phenomenon. No need to panic if I fancy a change I'm not exactly bereft of choice for other bars.

The discussions were wrapped up in about an hour and the lady in question had ceased dancing when I went in and had been grinning next to me the whole time (in case anyone is under the misconception I'm on some kind of peter string-fellow swaray again, name dropping myself everywhere I go, the lady has no idea who I am or what I do. In fact I prefer to remain anonymous as much as possible). Something I have learned from other business owners and through my own experiences.

The lady is, IMO, very good looking, although may not appeal to all. She is about 5 feet 2' tall has a sort of dyed blonde bob hair cut, enhanced breasts which look fabulous all the same, a tiny waist and a fabulous arse, other aspects which are fabulous and some other fabulous things about her. Did I remember to mention I think she is fabulous? Do not panic the good doctor is not about to get married and move to Chiang Mai with a fabulous young lady named Tic.

After getting back to my place and showering. I was reminded of the only down side to her, she does not do BBBJ she insists on a condom being used. However the compensating determination in her technique does make up for the condom being used, added to this I never try to strongly persuade / bribe these girls into doing anything they are not comfortable with. As some will remember I always start with the lady on top to get me warmed up and I have to say she was no star fish, she was very enthusiastic. Doggy was the next one and I grabbed her buttocks and pushed them apart until the red tea towel holder was winking up at me. I was in full swing now and smashed her for a good 5 minutes. At my age I was a bit tired by now so I whipped her over and united her ankles with her ears. She increased her moaning, real or not was not a paramount concern for me. A few minutes later and I blew my load, NICE!

To my horror when I took my wallet out I was 200 short. I really couldn't be bothered putting clothes on and going to an ATM so I promised her I would drop it off the following evening, because It wasn't the first time I had taken her out she agreed, kissed me on the cheek and told me I was very good (yeah, yeah I bet I'm the first guy you said that too). True to my word I went back to the bar and paid the lady what I owed her plus a tip at 8:30 as agreed. I had to hurry out of the bar as I was expecting a call from a nice young lady who had come up to stay with me for the three days I decided to take off work. Sure enough as soon as I walked out of the Plaza my phone rang and I took a deep breath and arranged to meet this lady in the beer Garden in Soi 7. I am planning to go to Pattaya for Songkram and will be meeting up with her so will post my experiences in due course.

In short Spanky's is a great bar which I highly recommend to everyone and Tik is a fantastic lady who I would urge anyone to try out (she has 4 tattoo's on her upper back area, see front of post for other identifying features).

Regards BJ

PinkPearl
04-10-12, 06:15
Where's a good place to take a lady for 10-30 minutes or so of DFK? Apart from one's hotel room or a ST hotel. But a bar, restaurant, outdoor location, etc, that is fairly dark and / or private.

Could this attract the attention of the kissing police? Is it illegal or just frowned upon in BKK? Would a P4P TG be too shy to do this in public? Maybe a poorly lit spot in NEP, Soi Cowboy or Giotto's lodge? Or a taxi cab or limo?

LittleBigMan
04-10-12, 07:09
stop with all the jibberish. world leaders come to the usa for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to cuba.

except mr hugo chavez-always exceptions to the rule. i'm sure obama would let hugo have access to usa medical technology, bird of a feather flock together. hahahaha.

well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. if one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.

its all about freedom-and freedom don't come easily!in all due respect, world leaders who come to the usa for healthcare is a small percentage i doubt if it is 1% of the overall people who need healthcare in usa and those world leaders can afford it because their citizens are paying for it. your remarks basically confirms what one of the complaints about our healthcare system is turning into. for those who can afford it! and those who stand before the t. v. like so many in the tea party say " i like the system the way it is don't pay the full amount for their their insurance their employer does whoever that might be? there is a very small percentage of the population that can pay the full premium themselves a basic medical policy for a individual in california will run you $700. 00 per month and that gives you a indication what it would cost for a family?

i don't want you or anyone to loose their freedom, but the issue of socialism and healthcare personally is being sold to scare people. if they were to socialize water, electricity, gas, food so that everyone would be able to afford it would you feel you have lost their freedom? i in no way agree that the current pass healthcare by obama is perfect, in fact i believe he screwed it all up! but the way our system is going now and the rising cost put it out of reach for millions and will eventually put it out of reach for you!

all many americans are asking like myself, is if every country system is so bad, and we don't want socialize medicine then with all the suppose brain power of knowledge and greatness of america why have we been fighting and giving lip service instead come up with a plan to cover to make everyone happy including retaining your freedom! instead we have been debating and fighting amount ourselves which gets to my point! this is the way our politicians want it harold444, so things don't change! what is the point of having freedom? if you are a citizen of the usa pay taxes your whole life and in a blink of a eye you loose everything because of a illness laying in the street homeless while every country in the world is getting a hand out and entitlements who have never made a contribution? please harold444 if that was you how would freedom taste then while you lay in your own [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109)? if socialize medicine isn't the answer please give me something other than you are scare of loosing your freedom?

lbm

Drai
04-10-12, 11:41
It's 4 AM and my ride to Chicago O'Hare Airport is arriving in exactly 1 hour. You know where I'm going otherwise I wouldn't be writing this. This will be my 4th trip to Thailand marking this airport taxi as a ride I surely would not want to miss. I have all the essentials of a 2-week millionaire dispersed across my bed with an empty suitcase in the middle soon to be filled with said essentials. Packing my suitcase is the last remaining obstacle between me and another episode of LOS. My process becomes interrupted though when I feel a lump in the front pocket of my suitcase as I pick it up to load it. Curious I stick my hand in the offending pocket to see what it is. I haven't touched this suitcase since I unpacked it from my last trip to Thailand 7 months ago. I reach in and pull out two objects and study them. I never use the front pockets of my suitcase and I don't smoke so why was it that I had in my hand a half full pack of cigarettes and a pink lighter. The pack was silver and green in color and was a bit wrinkled and compressed. It had Thai script written across the front and down the sides. The pink lighter was. Well. It was pink. I pull out one of the cigarettes and smell it. More so as a memory jogger than for any other reason. Muted tones of menthol. It had the intended effect. It was mental chloroform as my memory laid down a path to the only possible explanation. It was about 7 months ago.

Her name was 'Lek. ' She table danced at Mandarin in Nana. She was #xx. I typically can never recall both the name and badge number of a girl but I remember both for Lek quite clearly for reasons I'm about to disclose. I had just landed in Bangkok and decided to go to Mandarin in Nana because it's always what I do first when arriving to Thailand. I wasn't looking for anything in particular but she possessed everything that I had in mind. Most of the dancers 'Bangkok shuffled. ' Some seizured themselves around their poles occasionally hitting a beat by sheer accident. Not Lek. She danced in the middle of all this in a way that contrasted the other dancers but complemented her personality perfectly (I would come to find out later). Their uniforms were short, see-through, slightly flared skirts with sub-micro bikini tops. Perversely high heels with sliver ribbon straps that criss crossed up the calf and then tied right below the front of the knee. With a petite and tight body, Lek wore this uniform as she slow-motion swiveled her hips. She held on tightly to her pole with her arms extended, keeping her extremely high heels near the base of the pole, as she moved her hips in rhythmic, geometrically sound, concentric circles. Moving slowly towards the ground and then back up again. She kept the same pace and pattern no matter the music. Slow or fast, techno or mellow; she always sensually spiraled at the same rhythm while making half song revolutions around the pole. She paid attention to no-one. Not the other girls, not the music, not even the customers it seemed. She only looked at herself and would slowly run her hand from her hair to her cheek then down between her breasts then slowly across her mid-section whenever her half song revolutions had her facing the wall length mirror nearest her pole. She wore her hair in an untypically short bob style with one of her eyes completely covered and the other partially covered so it was really hard to tell what she was seeing in the mirror. Everyone else was in the Mandarin club in Nana. Who knows what world she was in. I paid the bar fine to see what the weather was like where she was.

I usually make 2 big mistakes on my first night in Bangkok. I got the first one out of the way when I asked a tuktuk driver at the Nana entrance to take us to a place that had good Thai food. Me overcharged and him over-commissioned I'm sure for the place that he took us to. While eating the overpriced food, Lek gave me a quick rundown of her story. She spoke quietly. She looked not as good but still great in her street clothes. One eye fully covered and the other partially covered by her hair. Age 26. She had worked at an a go-go for a couple of years a few years before. An eventual drug problem while dancing before had her sister and a farang sponsor helping her off the drugs and out of the go-go. She came back to dancing again just 6 months ago. She's been off the drugs for 2 years now. I took it all in because I always find these mini bios intriguing for some reason. With me having just landed from a 24 hour journey I suggested that we go back to my room at the Dynasty Grand. She had an opposing suggestion which was also the better one. We went to Foodland to purchase a large bottle of whiskey and a large bottle of soda to be mixed and consumed in my room. She led to me to the whiskey and I chose. She then led me to the cash register and I paid. She added a silver and green pack of cigarettes with Thai script on the front and down the sides, as well as a pink lighter, as the cashier was ringing us out.

Back in my room we toasted to the pure random occurrence that sponsored us meeting like this. We proceeded to Polish off about half of each bottle. She would pause after each glass in order to light up and smoke a cigarette from the silver and green pack I had just purchased for her. She had to do it out in hall, blowing the smoke out of an emergency exit door, as my room was non smoking. After the drinking and smoking were done we checked off the last item. She performed exactly as she danced. Before she left I gave her the remaining whiskey as a tip and as a thank you. Not so much for the service but for not taking advantage of the 2nd of my 2 mistakes that night. I had allowed her to mix my whiskey and soda unsupervised. I thanked her for not drugging and robbing me.

The next day was quite uneventful. A double soapy, a short time, and then the rest of the afternoon catching up with past acquaintances at Big Dogs. My intention was not to barfine Lek again but there I was that evening at the Mandarin with Lek curled up in my lap as quietly sexy as could be. We both watched, transfixed on Som as she danced for us on our table. 19-year old Som pranced and danced on the stage with enthusiasm I don't see much anymore. She humped the stage, the pole, the waitresses, and the customers. Nothing was safe within a 4-foot range of her performance. Lek said that I should barfine Som so I did. While in the process of placing my order with the mamasan I decided to go double or nothing. To Lek's partial surprise I barfined her again as well and left with two of Nana's finest.

We passed a young-looking, middle aged Thai man once we got off the escalator to the ground floor of Nana. Som spent some minutes talking with this man as Lek and I stood by in a holding pattern. The Thai man gave me a thumbs up as he finished up his conversation with Som. I assumed it was Som's Thai boyfriend and I asked her as such. Turns out the guy was actually her father! They used to work at the same go-go where he was the DJ and she was a dancer. A featured dancer at that. He would occasionally buy her drinks and watch her go off with customers nightly. They now work at separate gogo clubs but they often see each other in passing in Nana. He would often drink with her and her customers when they run in to each other but he had to go and was unable to join us. Even Lek had to take a minute to process that one.

Good thing I had two girls though. First reason being that Som was nearly lights out drunk by the time we go back to the hotel after hitting up a few bars. Lek came in handy when it came to assisting Som back to the Dynasty Grand. Lek was also a bit motherly (her being 26 to Som's 19) when it came to making sure that Som was ok and would provide the proper professional customer service that was expected of them both. It turns out that Som had been to this hotel before. Last time she was here she was paid 10, 000 baht as the customer professionally filmed their encounter for website purposes. This piece of information caught Lek a bit off guard for some reason. Like she was finally getting the know the girl she'd been dancing next to for months at Mandarin.

Lek and Som both wanted to smoke so out came the same silver and green pack of cigarettes and pink lighter. Rather than smoke out in the hallway as Lek did before they opted to smoke out of the open windows in my hotel room. While leaning out the window, Som noticed a naked Thai girl in the bedroom window across the way. The naked girl sat on the edge of the hotel bed in her room and brushed her hair while watching television. All 3 of us watching as a customer entered into view, standing in front of the girl wearing nothing but a towel wrapped around his waist. Before I knew it the towel had dropped and the Thai girl in the window on the edge of the bed started to do some "smoking" of her own. Time for me to exit left. I retired back to the bed as Lek and Som stayed at the window and enjoyed the command performance going on across the way. I was actually enjoying my view as well. Each girl in my room was on her tiptoes leering out the window. They were both wearing the shortest shorts this side of the Mekong. It was a close competition to see whose shorts were shorter. An intense rivalry. Lek's blue denim shorts vs. Som's black denim shorts. It was Red Sox vs. Yankees, Brazil vs. Argentina, All Blacks vs. Wallabies. I was the obvious winner. I sat back and surveyed the scene as if casually contemplating a Monet and a Manet in the Louvre. Two disparate words that I never would have paired together came to mind;"butt, cleavage."

Being that Som was apparently an internet sensation, her and Lek switched positions so to speak. Som became the mentor as Lek had never been with another girl before. No one at a time while the other waited in the bathroom on this one. Som directed while Lek listened and dove in head first. Eventually Som went from director to doing some heavy lifting as well as she posed us and constructed scenes that we played out through the night. Som was still a bit tipsy so she reverted to only speaking Thai while Lek translated her directions and such. When it came to describing Som two more disparate words came to mind that I never would have paired together before this moment;"sexual, prodigy."

It was a short time so the moment came when I held up my end of the bargain with some baht for services rendered plus tip. As a final farewell I watched those two walk down the hall to the elevators. I just couldn't resist. Had I been paying more attention to their possessions rather than their assets I would have noticed that Lek no longer had her silver and green pack of cigarettes and pink lighter.

No mobile numbers or emails were exchanged. So there were no text messages of 'I miss you. ' No emails of 'I love you' upon my eventual return home but Lek had secretly placed these two objects in the front pocket of my suitcase before leaving my room that night. The silver and green pack of cigarettes and pink lighter were her retainer. Nothing overt to keep me on Lek's hook upon my return home but I found that these objects retained my thoughts of our night together thereby retaining my thoughts of her. Playing within the bars and gogos can be like being in a candy store where the only condition is you can only keep what you can retain in your memory.

Goatscrot
04-10-12, 12:28
Stop with all the jibberish. World leaders come to the USA for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to Cuba.

Except mr hugo chavez-always exceptions to the rule. I'm sure Obama would let hugo have access to USA medical technology, bird of a feather flock together. Hahahaha.

Well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. If one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.

Its all about FREEDOM-and freedom don't come easily!Freedom = Not having to worry about financial ruin if you get ill.

Freedom = Not having to enter the workforce 100k in debt with student loans.

Freedom = Knowing that you will have 4 weeks vacation a year.

Freedom = Knowing that your retirement is rock solid.

Freedom = Knowing that if your employer lays you off (normally to increase shareholder profits) that you will not be ruined.

That my friend IS FREEDOM!

It is not about socialism. It is about providing health care. I suppose you consider OZ a mecca of socialism since they have a public health care system? Obama is FAR from a socialist.

The large corps already have the population of the US by the throats.

World leader used to come to the US. The rest of the world has caught up.

Goatscrot
04-10-12, 12:32
in all due respect, world leaders who come to the usa for healthcare is a small percentage i doubt if it is 1% of the overall people who need healthcare in usa and those world leaders can afford it because their citizens are paying for it. your remarks basically confirms what one of the complaints about our healthcare system is turning into. for those who can afford it! and those who stand before the t. v. like so many in the tea party say " i like the system the way it is don't pay the full amount for their their insurance their employer does whoever that might be? there is a very small percentage of the population that can pay the full premium themselves a basic medical policy for a individual in california will run you $700. 00 per month and that gives you a indication what it would cost for a family?

i don't want you or anyone to loose their freedom, but the issue of socialism and healthcare personally is being sold to scare people. if they were to socialize water, electricity, gas, food so that everyone would be able to afford it would you feel you have lost their freedom? i in no way agree that the current pass healthcare by obama is perfect, in fact i believe he screwed it all up! but the way our system is going now and the rising cost put it out of reach for millions and will eventually put it out of reach for you!

all many americans are asking like myself, is if every country system is so bad, and we don't want socialize medicine then with all the suppose brain power of knowledge and greatness of america why have we been fighting and giving lip service instead come up with a plan to cover to make everyone happy including retaining your freedom! instead we have been debating and fighting amount ourselves which gets to my point! this is the way our politicians want it harold444, so things don't change! what is the point of having freedom? if you are a citizen of the usa pay taxes your whole life and in a blink of a eye you loose everything because of a illness laying in the street homeless while every country in the world is getting a hand out and entitlements who have never made a contribution? please harold444 if that was you how would freedom taste then while you lay in your own [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109)? if socialize medicine isn't the answer please give me something other than you are scare of loosing your freedom?

lbmvery well stated. americans pay lots of taxes and that becomes even more when you look at the outrageous health ins premiums paid. and again, private insurance because provide no health care. they simply market and profit. there is no sense in it. americans get nothing for their taxes except a bloated military and an out of control criminal justice system. want to talk about freedom then talk about rolling the clock back on the justice system to pre-rico days and releasing all non-violent drug offender, oh, and ending all foreign wars, foreign aid, and closing all overseas bases!

Goatscrot
04-10-12, 12:36
Stop with all the jibberish. World leaders come to the USA for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to Cuba.

Except mr hugo chavez-always exceptions to the rule. I'm sure Obama would let hugo have access to USA medical technology, bird of a feather flock together. Hahahaha.

Well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. If one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.

Its all about FREEDOM-and freedom don't come easily!So I assume you will not ever be drawing Social Security and never will use Medicare? Because those are both "socialist" style programs.

Golfinho
04-10-12, 13:40
World leaders come to the USA for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to Cuba. Well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. If one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.

Its all about FREEDOM-and freedom don't come easily!I go to other countries for healthcare where there have been very good outcomes and good prices, sure as hell don't go to a healthcare provider in the USA. Provision of public healthcare is all about profits, if one wants to exploit a country a big way is to manipulate the cost of medicine. Then you got the people by the throats. IT has nothing to do with freedom.

Member #4698
04-10-12, 14:25
Freedom = Not having to worry about financial ruin if you get ill.

Freedom = Not having to enter the workforce 100k in debt with student loans.

Freedom = Knowing that you will have 4 weeks vacation a year.

Freedom = Knowing that your retirement is rock solid.

Freedom = Knowing that if your employer lays you off (normally to increase shareholder profits) that you will not be ruined.

That my friend IS FREEDOM!I think the Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington would be shocked with your definition of Freedom. What you are describing is Utopia. It will never happen. All the European countries with the exception of Germany are in bad shape fiscally speaking. The US federal government is 16 trillion in debt and basically bankrupt. Nobody thinks the US will ever pay off this debt. The plan is to inflate the currency by printing more money. If a real solution is not found to stop the government borrowing, the US currency will face severe devaluation which will destroy the middle class and be a catastrophe to the poor. The problem with implementing your Utopia is there is never enough money. If you tax everybody in the USA 100% on all income over $100, 000. It still won't make a dent in the debt and the economy will tank.

US healthcare was far from perfect and many improvements could have been made. But the one thing that made US Healthcare superior to all nationalized plans was immediate availability and care, no wait times. How long does a patient have to wait to see a specialist in Canada, England or Australia?

Obama promised his healthcare plan would not bend the cost curve. He lied. His estimate was $900 billion over 10 years. The latest estimates are $2. 6 trillion over the same period. It is also now estimated that Obama care will cost over $60 trillion over the next 50 years. In other words even if the Supreme Court does not declare the law it unconstitutional, it is still doomed.

Freedom means it is up to you to make it or fail. Government is not the answer. It is the problem.

Member #4643
04-10-12, 15:16
I think the Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington would be shocked with your definition of Freedom. What you are describing is Utopia. It will never happen. All the European countries with the exception of Germany are in bad shape fiscally speaking. The US federal government is 16 trillion in debt and basically bankrupt. Nobody thinks the US will ever pay off this debt. The plan is to inflate the currency by printing more money. If a real solution is not found to stop the government borrowing, the US currency will face severe devaluation which will destroy the middle class and be a catastrophe to the poor. The problem with implementing your Utopia is there is never enough money. If you tax everybody in the USA 100% on all income over $100, 000. It still won't make a dent in the debt and the economy will tank.

US healthcare was far from perfect and many improvements could have been made. But the one thing that made US Healthcare superior to all nationalized plans was immediate availability and care, no wait times. How long does a patient have to wait to see a specialist in Canada, England or Australia?

Obama promised his healthcare plan would not bend the cost curve. He lied. His estimate was $900 billion over 10 years. The latest estimates are $2. 6 trillion over the same period. It is also now estimated that Obama care will cost over $60 trillion over the next 50 years. In other words even if the Supreme Court does not declare the law it unconstitutional, it is still doomed.

Freedom means it is up to you to make it or fail. Government is not the answer. It is the problem.

Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F

Admin
04-10-12, 17:46
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

El Frances
04-10-12, 18:46
I agree, let's talk about important topics, such as pussies, etc.

El Frances
04-10-12, 19:03
I just barfined a girl for ST from Rainbow 4 at 11:30. I had barfined the same girl in November for 2000 ST, which I find already expensive enough. My hotel is 5mn from Nana plaza, so it took her about 1 hour, travel included. And she enjoyed it as the stains on my bedsheets show (in case you would like to check! Ah! Ah!). I did not talk price before and after we finish, she asks me 2500 and was angry I (should I say only?) gave her 2000.

Where will it go? In 6 month time will they ask 3000 ST?

When we talked in Rainbow 4 around a lady drink, she complained there were too few customers. No wonder!

Wolvenvacht
04-10-12, 19:47
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. FNana Entertainment Plaza, Nana Hotel carpark, Soi Cowboy. 1AM is still at least an hour before "official" closing time and many bars and clubs seem to run to a different timezone!

Giotto
04-10-12, 20:01
I agree, let's talk about important topics, such as pussies, etc.That's correct, pussy is much more important than healthcare!


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Where will it go? In 6 month time will they ask 3000 ST?
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Depends on the performance. If good you get it for free. Otherwise you go mongering in New York, that's much cheaper.


Nana Entertainment Plaza, Nana Hotel carpark, Soi Cowboy. 1AM is still at least an hour before "official" closing time and many bars and clubs seem to run to a different timezone!Arriving at the hotel at 1 AM, checking in, taking a shower, getting dressed ... 2 am, --- an alternative would be to go to Bumrumgrad in Soi 3, discuss some healthcare issues. Otherwise Climax, Sukhumvit Soi 11.


Where's a good place to take a lady for 10-30 minutes or so of DFK? Apart from one's hotel room or a ST hotel. But a bar, restaurant, outdoor location, etc, that is fairly dark and / or private.

Could this attract the attention of the kissing police? Is it illegal or just frowned upon in BKK? Would a P4P TG be too shy to do this in public? Maybe a poorly lit spot in NEP, Soi Cowboy or Giotto's lodge? Or a taxi cab or limo?No question at all. Take a limo to Giotto's Lodge. We will find a fairly dark spot here somewhere. And the kissing police will serve a bottle of champagne before DFK happens. Afterwards we can discuss the healthcare issues connected to DFK, and the limo can bring you back to Bumrumgrad, Soi 3, for the necessary treatment.

All this is - quite strange, somehow.


Giotto

Giotto
04-10-12, 20:40
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. FForest,

We both know - life is hard. And the life in Bangkok is very hard. I can tell. Let's go into details.

People are not taking time outs from discussions here in Bangkok / Thailand. They usually occupy the Rajprasong intersection and stage a demonstration for approximately 65 days. And then - they get shot from time to time, somehow. And afterwards ... nobody takes over the responsibility for what has happened. Never mind. That's how it is.

As the shooting method is quite unpopular an alternative is just under development. The drowning method. First test of the government took place last year. Let's wait for the outcome. Some optimization has to be done, the water did not get to the Rajprasong intersection. Damn!!!

Beautiful Thai girl - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For sure you want a tall fat big chested Isaan girl from the South, with fair skin, skinny, small tits. Ahh, black hair and brown eyes? I see, a standard Thai girl, and of course a superb BBBJ provider (daily check, of course). But healthy, not infected with anything, under the watch of the Thai healthcare system. Initiated by Thaksin: pay THB 30, and you are healthy! No BBBJ will ever hurt you!

Downtown Bangkok - where is that? Chinatown, close to the palace? Sathon Road? Silom? Siam? Lad Phrao? Sukhumvit, lower or upper part? It must be somewhere.

I hope I got "back on track". If not --- I apologize. This is Thailand, but the people HERE are --- strange somehow, so strange.


Giotto

Harry Dude
04-10-12, 20:46
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. FI was in the exact same situation a week ago. I arrived at my hotel at 1:40am:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1264060&viewfull=1#post1264060

Basically, arrived at Grand Millenium on Asoke at 1:40am and was in the Soi Cowboy gogo's shortly after, barfined a hot dancer at 2:15am.

El Frances
04-10-12, 22:18
Hi, It's me again (4 am in Bangkok).

After my ST, I went to Insomnia to test the disco nightlife. Comparing with previous experience, it seems to be better than Climax. It's Tuesday and full enough for a weekday, and plenty of girls. And you don't have to stand a live band as in Climax. Standard repetitive disco music, nor good nor bad.

It's quite fun and lively. However, it is like the antithesis of Gogo bars. In Gogo bars, it's mainly about older men picking up young girls. In Insomnia, it's mainly about young men picking up older girls. It's probably cheap (from the profile of the men there, I would say max. 1500 LT) , but as I am an older guy I prefer young girls, so I just had a few beers and left.

Syzygies
04-10-12, 22:58
That's correct, pussy is much more important than healthcare!

Depends on the performance. If good you get it for free. Otherwise you go mongering in New York, that's much cheaper.

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GiottoYou were quiet for so long, and then. Explosion?

I have been bored by all the non-mongering reports, but since you seem to like politics, what's eating you? I mean, you seem to be just a little grumpy? IMHO, you could do with toning down the sarcasm, just a little. There presumably are other forums, for non-mongers.

You have to expect nearly everyone here is pretty much pussy crazy.

Daddy07
04-11-12, 01:02
Freedom = Not having to worry about financial ruin if you get ill.Freedom = Not having to worry about finding a stunner at Beer Garden for 500 baht LT.

Freedom = Not having to enter a Go-Go bar without 100K of someone else's baht in your pocket.

Freedom = Knowing that you will have 4 weeks of any girls you want in Bangkok at someone else's expense.

Freedom = Knowing that your dick will always be rock solid when you're ready because you want it to be.

Freedom = Knowing that if you forget to bring your wallet to a Thai restaurant, the proprietor will give you your dinner free.

That my friends IS FREEDOM!

It's not about socialism. It's about getting what you deserve even though you've not earned it. It's about taking what you want from the pockets of your betters. It's about having everything you want for FREE! That is FAR from socialist.

Goatscrot
04-11-12, 04:12
Hi, It's me again (4 am in Bangkok).

After my ST, I went to Insomnia to test the disco nightlife. Comparing with previous experience, it seems to be better than Climax. It's Tuesday and full enough for a weekday, and plenty of girls. And you don't have to stand a live band as in Climax. Standard repetitive disco music, nor good nor bad.

It's quite fun and lively. However, it is like the antithesis of Gogo bars. In Gogo bars, it's mainly about older men picking up young girls. In Insomnia, it's mainly about young men picking up older girls. It's probably cheap (from the profile of the men there, I would say max. 1500 LT) , but as I am an older guy I prefer young girls, so I just had a few beers and left.Gals at the late night discos often charge more. 3k baht is the figure that comes to mind. Lots of lookers there, but as you stated, lots of younger guys. Many of the younger guys are looking for freebies, but a younger better looking guy that is willing to pay more than us middle aged dudes it trouble, well at least for us!

Goatscrot
04-11-12, 04:14
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. FWell, depending on closing times for that night, you could hit Cowboy or Nana for an hour and if nothing suits your fancy head off to Climax or Insomnia. Also Nana parking lot.

Giotto
04-11-12, 04:54
You were quiet for so long, and then. Explosion?

I have been bored by all the non-mongering reports, but since you seem to like politics, what's eating you? I mean, you seem to be just a little grumpy? IMHO, you could do with toning down the sarcasm, just a little. There presumably are other forums, for non-mongers.

You have to expect nearly everyone here is pretty much pussy crazy.Syzygies,

Thanks for taking me seriously.

You are right, this "explosion" is worrisome, I have to contact my shrink. I was under the impression that despite the declared purpose of this forum it was still a kind of fun place, where things are not taken too seriously ... but I am obviously wrong. Never mind.


Giotto

PS: Are there really forums where you can practice sarcasm?

LittleBigMan
04-11-12, 06:21
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. FBad health or no healthcare equals no pussy! Bad eyes no healthcare to treat it hard to see at that time of the night to see anything beautiful? I suggest maybe you book ahead or just wing it. Beautiful is nice but at that time of the night you might want to go to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy. Your first night just get laid and think beautiful later?

LBM

Goatscrot
04-11-12, 08:00
Bad health or no healthcare equals no pussy! Bad eyes no healthcare to treat it hard to see at that time of the night to see anything beautiful? I suggest maybe you book ahead or just wing it. Beautiful is nice but at that time of the night you might want to go to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy. Your first night just get laid and think beautiful later?

LBMBut even worse is bad pussycare! Then we are all in trouble!

Mooris7
04-11-12, 08:18
Boiled over?


Originally Posted by Giotto [View Original Post]

That's correct, pussy is much more important than healthcare!

Depends on the performance. If good you get it for free. Otherwise you go mongering in New York, that's much cheaper.

<cut

Giotto.You were quiet for so long, and then. Explosion?

I have been bored by all the non-mongering reports, but since you seem to like politics, what's eating you? I mean, you seem to be just a little grumpy? IMHO, you could do with toning down the sarcasm, just a little. There presumably are other forums, for non-mongers.

You have to expect nearly everyone here is pretty much pussy crazy.

I agree!

Mooris7
04-11-12, 08:29
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

JacksonThank you Jackson! Now my first visit to Nana. Kinda ironic but I met this girl Lisa on FB. Found out she works at Playskool in Nana Plaza. We decided to meet there because she could not get the night off work and of course needs her bar fine LOL. We went to Mixx club before heading back to my place for some action. Big tits and nice face. She gave a great BBBJ and was wonderful to see riding me ha ha. Damage was 2500ST two shots. Overall I thought Nana much bigger than Soi Cowboy but I really did not like the atmosphere. Bars were bot that busy and too many Lady boys for my liking. If you have to take a second look to decide whether it is a girl or not then it is not the place for me. I did however like the Nana beer garden in the middle. Seems like a good place to meet a freelancer. Do the go go bars allow that? Her photo below if you want to go find her.

Dreams
04-11-12, 09:59
I think the Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington would be shocked with your definition of Freedom. What you are describing is Utopia. It will never happen. All the European countries with the exception of Germany are in bad shape fiscally speaking. The US federal government is 16 trillion in debt and basically bankrupt. Nobody thinks the US will ever pay off this debt. The plan is to inflate the currency by printing more money. If a real solution is not found to stop the government borrowing, the US currency will face severe devaluation which will destroy the middle class and be a catastrophe to the poor. The problem with implementing your Utopia is there is never enough money. If you tax everybody in the USA 100% on all income over $100, 000. It still won't make a dent in the debt and the economy will tank.

US healthcare was far from perfect and many improvements could have been made. But the one thing that made US Healthcare superior to all nationalized plans was immediate availability and care, no wait times. How long does a patient have to wait to see a specialist in Canada, England or Australia?

Obama promised his healthcare plan would not bend the cost curve. He lied. His estimate was $900 billion over 10 years. The latest estimates are $2. 6 trillion over the same period. It is also now estimated that Obama care will cost over $60 trillion over the next 50 years. In other words even if the Supreme Court does not declare the law it unconstitutional, it is still doomed.

Freedom means it is up to you to make it or fail. Government is not the answer. It is the problem.Your affirmations regarding waiting times are wrong. There is no waiting time at all in, for instance, so called "socialist" France. Neither in nermany. Nor even in other continental Europe countries. The only European place where this is an issue is the UK.

Your argument that you can HAVE immediate access in the Us is flawed: Only those who can make a big cheque in the emergency room have such access.

Actually, in so called Socialist Europe, you can also access private care and pay, just like in the US. But if you can't you can still be treated without wait in the public sector.

I am happy and proud to live in a country that takes care of ALL its citizens.

Western787
04-11-12, 11:13
Your affirmations regarding waiting times are wrong. There is no waiting time at all in, for instance, so called "socialist" France. Neither in nermany. Nor even in other continental Europe countries. The only European place where this is an issue is the UK.

Your argument that you can HAVE immediate access in the Us is flawed: Only those who can make a big cheque in the emergency room have such access.

Actually, in so called Socialist Europe, you can also access private care and pay, just like in the US. But if you can't you can still be treated without wait in the public sector.

I am happy and proud to live in a country that takes care of ALL its citizens.I hope you end this discussion soon, but the record needs to be set straight.

Since the socialists in here insist in keeping the political discussion going. They at least owe it to others in here to stop distorting reality. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a USA Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. The level of treatment beyond that point can depend upon a variety of factors, including the type of insurance, but in the USA many will by default qualify under medicaid and various other programs including various private charities, but in any case the USA still generally provides care comparable or better than most other countries in the world. While we may have a european-socialist US President. Who is now running a media-supported hate campaign against hardworking and successful people. Who is willing to bad mouth and distort facts about america every chance he gets. It doesn't mean what he is saying is true. Even illegal immigrants in most cases generally receive a very high level of care in the USA, unlike nearly any other country.

As later documented by Governor William Bradford when the Pilgrims arrived in America, at Plymouth in 1620, they tried socialism the first several years, and the result was starvation and famine. When they changed the rules to allow producers to keep a portion of their goods to make profits, production quickly rose and things greatly improved for everyone. Same thing in China several decades back when they moved from the communist / socialist model and introduced elements of capitalism. Allowing farmers to keep half their crops for personal profits, a huge increae in production, benefitting all and helping increase the standard of living.

Socialism is great in theory, however its success when it has has occured has been mostly in group-centric homogeneous cultures that keep outsiders out and limit benefits to these same parties (e. G. Japan) , yet in most countries has not worked well in practice as it tends to demotivate and disincentivize societies most productive and skilled individuals, instead encourgaging dependency and lack of effort. Socialism does one thing very well and that is: divide up all the poverty it creates.

By the way Thailand which of course still has many problems, is very close to pure capitalism, however if you believe socialism would have produced better results, then you better tell us how adjoining and nearby socialist-centric countries have done better.

Gwailo
04-11-12, 15:15
Can we please stop discussing socialized medicine and maybe get back on topic.

Duniawala
04-11-12, 16:01
I just barfined a girl for ST from Rainbow 4 at 11:30. I had barfined the same girl in November for 2000 ST, which I find already expensive enough. My hotel is 5mn from Nana plaza, so it took her about 1 hour, travel included. And she enjoyed it as the stains on my bedsheets show (in case you would like to check! Ah! Ah!). I did not talk price before and after we finish, she asks me 2500 and was angry I (should I say only?) gave her 2000.

Where will it go? In 6 month time will they ask 3000 ST?

When we talked in Rainbow 4 around a lady drink, she complained there were too few customers. No wonder!Let's see. You did not negotiate the price, took her an hour to travel to your place, you enjoyed it very much and you did not pay her what she asked. It's people like you who make others look bad.

You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.

Golfinho
04-11-12, 16:42
You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.The girls have an uncanny ability to remember their customers. They have better memories than we do.

Admin
04-11-12, 17:57
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Dreams
04-11-12, 18:06
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

JacksonPlease do come back regularly and check this thread. After the politics, we may go back to orchids, prices, taxis, water, STDs, LBs, airlines, ATMs, restaurants. Last time I dared to say something, I was told to get out and "get a life". Which I did.

Fon Tok
04-11-12, 20:06
Can we please stop discussing socialized medicine and maybe get back on topic.How about socialism based pussy? Lots of it in the China thread!

Run Mann
04-11-12, 21:30
Please do come back regularly and check this thread. After the politics, we may go back to orchids, prices, taxis, water, STDs, LBs, airlines, ATMs, restaurants. Last time I dared to say something, I was told to get out and "get a life". Which I did.Did what, get a life? Problem is that there're no clear rules or guidance as to what is acceptable so this is the result. The posters discussing the topics you mention will tell you that they are all relatable to the BKK sex scene. And since no poster's opinion is more valid than another and there're no penalties or fouls you will always have these types of postings.

Western787
04-11-12, 21:35
Let's see. You did not negotiate the price, took her an hour to travel to your place, you enjoyed it very much and you did not pay her what she asked. It's people like you who make others look bad.

You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.Where did he say they both agreed to the price ahead of time? Also, he said he was only 5 minutes from Nana and the one hour was all inclusive, yet she still later asked for 2500. Price increases apparently are the trend, maybe customers currently living in Bangkok might have some thoughts on what's going on with prices. I heard in Myanmar (Burma) prices have doubled in the last year, but I guess that's a currency issue, as investors (many east asians) are streaming into the country to take advantage of the new reforms. Plus Cambodia supposedly is no longer cheap. So what's that leave? Phillipines and living with high crime?

GentleBoner
04-12-12, 03:33
Thank you Jackson! Now my first visit to Nana. Kinda ironic but I met this girl Lisa on FB. Found out she works at Playskool in Nana Plaza. We decided to meet there because she could not get the night off work and of course needs her bar fine LOL. We went to Mixx club before heading back to my place for some action. Big tits and nice face. She gave a great BBBJ and was wonderful to see riding me ha ha. Damage was 2500ST two shots. Overall I thought Nana much bigger than Soi Cowboy but I really did not like the atmosphere. Bars were bot that busy and too many Lady boys for my liking. If you have to take a second look to decide whether it is a girl or not then it is not the place for me. I did however like the Nana beer garden in the middle. Seems like a good place to meet a freelancer. Do the go go bars allow that? Her photo below if you want to go find her.You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. Congrats

LittleBigMan
04-12-12, 04:10
I hope you end this discussion soon, but the record needs to be set straight.

Since the socialists in here insist in keeping the political discussion going. They at least owe it to others in here to stop distorting reality. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a USA Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. The level of treatment beyond that point can depend upon a variety of factors, including the type of insurance, but in the USA many will by default qualify under medicaid and various other programs including various private charities, but in any case the USA still generally provides care comparable or better than most other countries in the world. While we may have a european-socialist US President. Who is now running a media-supported hate campaign against hardworking and successful people. Who is willing to bad mouth and distort facts about america every chance he gets. It doesn't mean what he is saying is true. Even illegal immigrants in most cases generally receive a very high level of care in the USA, unlike nearly any other country.

As later documented by Governor William Bradford when the Pilgrims arrived in America, at Plymouth in 1620, they tried socialism the first several years, and the result was starvation and famine. When they changed the rules to allow producers to keep a portion of their goods to make profits, production quickly rose and things greatly improved for everyone. Same thing in China several decades back when they moved from the communist / socialist model and introduced elements of capitalism. Allowing farmers to keep half their crops for personal profits, a huge increae in production, benefitting all and helping increase the standard of living.

Socialism is great in theory, however its success when it has has occured has been mostly in group-centric homogeneous cultures that keep outsiders out and limit benefits to these same parties (e. G. Japan) , yet in most countries has not worked well in practice as it tends to demotivate and disincentivize societies most productive and skilled individuals, instead encourgaging dependency and lack of effort. Socialism does one thing very well and that is: divide up all the poverty it creates.

By the way Thailand which of course still has many problems, is very close to pure capitalism, however if you believe socialism would have produced better results, then you better tell us how adjoining and nearby socialist-centric countries have done better.Western787,

I believe in some form of socialism, I believe in many conservatiive, liberal, and even like many of the ideas Ron Paul preaches. Although you cited the law which is very true you have brought and have been brainwashed to this in the real world it doesn't work exactly like that. My second job was a partime with a major insurance company I have had insurance all my life but when I retired the company terminated retirees insurance in court. So now I'm in Thailand, I have studied nearly every medical policy being offered in Thailand and have visited every private and public hospitals in the Chon Buri area and your right it is very close to pre captialism whereas even when they have a law like you stated in the USA a majority International accredited hospital will ship a dying American down the road because they couldn't confirm he could pay for the treatment. Capitalism is they ask you how are you going to pay while you are in dying pain? Captialism is when they charge you double for a hospital stay and then tell you they gave you a 50% discount on the room. Their medical system is lace with discrimination against pre-conditions and seniors and policy are sold to humans like they sell medical policies to dogs in America.

This is the application of our law in the USA this is my experience a few years back! While visiting home I came down with a medical problem which is my fear whenever I come back to the USA for a short visit. The problem grew and so did the pain. I couldn't get a private practice doctor to do the procedure in their office so to make a long story short I ended up at the General hospital clinic in S. F. While sitting for 5 hours waiting in a room that I knew were full of low income and most likely illegal Mexican my turn came just to fill out some forms first thing they wanted was my S. S. Number. Another hour later I was in the surgery clinic, I ask the doctor can I fly back to Thailand and do the procedure " will I die " it would be much cheaper? His reply " do you want it cut or not we don't get into personal we are just here to treat you " will in the end the cost was over $2, 000, for fifteen minutes of work and some pills. If the private doctor was able to do it the cost would have been $350. 00. I went back to Thailand and the bills kept rolling in because I had a legal address and a S. S. Number, now they were threatening collection? Finally I was able to return and I went into their office to explain my situation along with my financial in the end " Medi-Aid " will only give assistance if you have no more than $10, 000 in USA funds and no income.

To get on with things I wrote them a check. See! Guys like me pay because I have a legal address and a S. S. Number! If you don't and you care they come after you and can get at your bank account (so much for freedom and this didn't just happen because OBAMA) the government can ruin you and your credit! The system is this buddy, if you are a Illegal it is free " you and I pay for it already " sure there is a law and yes they don't refuse you but the system requires you to use ALL your money life savings until you are below their requirment then you get aid! This is a good example why people won't get off medicare or assistance why get a job if you can't get medical or afford it with your mimimum wage job? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WHO WANT SOME FORM OF A NATIONAL HEALTHCARE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT! The law isn't what it seems you don't have the Big full picture! This is a feel good law but it doesn't work much in practice it is just another Theory!

Can't talk about healthcare but can reference LB?

LBM

The Pro
04-12-12, 06:07
You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. CongratsCertainly looks like a "postie".

Western787
04-12-12, 09:26
Western787,

I believe in some form of socialism, I believe in many conservatiive, liberal, and even like many of the ideas Ron Paul preaches. Although you cited the law which is very true you have brought and have been brainwashed to this in the real world it doesn't work exactly like that. My second job was a partime with a major insurance company I have had insurance all my life but when I retired the company terminated retirees insurance in court. So now I'm in Thailand, I have studied nearly every medical policy being offered in Thailand and have visited every private and public hospitals in the Chon Buri area and your right it is very close to pre captialism whereas even when they have a law like you stated in the USA a majority International accredited hospital will ship a dying American down the road because they couldn't confirm he could pay for the treatment. Capitalism is they ask you how are you going to pay while you are in dying pain? Captialism is when they charge you double for a hospital stay and then tell you they gave you a 50% discount on the room. Their medical system is lace with discrimination against pre-conditions and seniors and policy are sold to humans like they sell medical policies to dogs in America.

This is the application of our law in the USA this is my experience a few years back! While visiting home I came down with a medical problem which is my fear whenever I come back to the USA for a short visit. The problem grew and so did the pain. I couldn't get a private practice doctor to do the procedure in their office so to make a long story short I ended up at the General hospital clinic in S. F. While sitting for 5 hours waiting in a room that I knew were full of low income and most likely illegal Mexican my turn came just to fill out some forms first thing they wanted was my S. S. Number. Another hour later I was in the surgery clinic, I ask the doctor can I fly back to Thailand and do the procedure " will I die " it would be much cheaper? His reply " do you want it cut or not we don't get into personal we are just here to treat you " will in the end the cost was over $2, 000, for fifteen minutes of work and some pills. If the private doctor was able to do it the cost would have been $350. 00. I went back to Thailand and the bills kept rolling in because I had a legal address and a S. S. Number, now they were threatening collection? Finally I was able to return and I went into their office to explain my situation along with my financial in the end " Medi-Aid " will only give assistance if you have no more than $10, 000 in USA funds and no income.

To get on with things I wrote them a check. See! Guys like me pay because I have a legal address and a S. S. Number! If you don't and you care they come after you and can get at your bank account (so much for freedom and this didn't just happen because OBAMA) the government can ruin you and your credit! The system is this buddy, if you are a Illegal it is free " you and I pay for it already " sure there is a law and yes they don't refuse you but the system requires you to use ALL your money life savings until you are below their requirment then you get aid! This is a good example why people won't get off medicare or assistance why get a job if you can't get medical or afford it with your mimimum wage job? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WHO WANT SOME FORM OF A NATIONAL HEALTHCARE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT! The law isn't what it seems you don't have the Big full picture! This is a feel good law but it doesn't work much in practice it is just another Theory!

Can't talk about healthcare but can reference LB?

LBMThe USA may soon have to copy Thailand in certain regards, loosen medical malpractice tort laws (for damage suits) and allow drugs stores and other sub-licensed entities to become part of the treatment options (more drugs available etc) , as the USA health system eventually collapses under it own weight.

All countries have hybrid systems, the issue is one of percentage, both the absolute level, and the overall trend, and the case with China is a clearcut example of what can happen when you unshackle socialist restraints and move toward capitalism if only in incremental steps.

I'm well aware of the larger picture. The fact that the United States is a sinking ship now listing on its side, weighed down by an ever expanding entitlement state overlayed by a de facto open borders policy for at least three decades now, where illegals often have more benefits and handouts than citizens. The (must treat) law was cited simply to refute the nonsensical idea of someone being taken out of an ambulence, then supposedly dying outside the emergency room because short of funds, and course (as an unfunded mandate) it has huge problems, one of which is of the significant cost shifting to those of us paying private premiums, such premiums having doubled or tripled in recent years, in part to pay for such programs. National health care won't solve the problem if the USA continues an open borders and open welfare policy for all such immigrants. By the way, Obamacare if not rescinded, is perhaps only one or two federal court decisions away from illegals qualifying under its various new entitlements (since constitutionally speaking they are deemed, by mere physical presence in the USA,"persons" and thus guaranteed certain rights) so Obama was in fact "lying" just as Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina stated.

Every new entitlement or welfare program intented to solve a certain problem, ends up causing a 1000 new problems.

Western787
04-12-12, 09:32
You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. CongratsNews story out tonight. Miss Universe is now going to officially allow transgender entrants. (whether each one's true gender will be kept private in the contest, not sure) Discrimination can be wrong at times, but with a WOMENS pageant, its nice to know (for sure) that all are actual women. Ok, they were maybe born with the wrong equipment, but they're in effect forcing us to accept them as women, when in fact they never can be women.

Dreams
04-12-12, 09:56
Did what, get a life? Problem is that there're no clear rules or guidance as to what is acceptable so this is the result. The posters discussing the topics you mention will tell you that they are all relatable to the BKK sex scene. And since no poster's opinion is more valid than another and there're no penalties or fouls you will always have these types of postings.This is very specific to the BKK thread. You do not have such stupid ratio (50/1) between mongering and non mongering posts in any other thread. Well so be it, if this what the local BKK ISG members want to do. There are other sources of info elsewhere for those of us who just want, as Jackson says, to share info on sex. So, yes, I went elsewhere to "get a life", and got it.

BTW, there are clear rules and guidance, but they are not followed, and, yes there are no penalties. This is because Jackson is alone, and does not monitor. I know of many other sites which have delegated monitoring to more people, and such non mongering posts would eitehr be deleted, or reassembled in new threads. Can't understand why we can't have some more threads about restaurants, politics, whatever, and keep one just for sex.

But who am I to say that. I should go away and get a life.

Western787
04-12-12, 11:56
This is very specific to the BKK thread. You do not have such stupid ratio (50/1) between mongering and non mongering posts in any other thread. Well so be it, if this what the local BKK ISG members want to do. There are other sources of info elsewhere for those of us who just want, as Jackson says, to share info on sex. So, yes, I went elsewhere to "get a life", and got it.Now this is actually on topic, but remember the "arab spring", supposedly that was triggered by food price inflation, which they've connected to the Fed (which to keep the now quasi- socialist USA going) is running the printing presses. The USA in effect for years has been able to export inflation, and we know something like this is occuring in China, which is definitely tied in part to what the Fed is doing, and now it looks like inflation in Thailand of some type. So maybe that's where its all headed, and perhaps only the Phillipines a few other asian places remain cheap. I also see on the Pattaya site talk about "agency" girls pushing prices up.

Syzygies
04-12-12, 12:49
Syzygies,

Thanks for taking me seriously.

You are right, this "explosion" is worrisome, I have to contact my shrink. I was under the impression that despite the declared purpose of this forum it was still a kind of fun place, where things are not taken too seriously. But I am obviously wrong. Never mind.

Giotto.

PS: Are there really forums where you can practice sarcasm?Detecting sarcasm implies the lack of taking you seriously. No need to say this since you were sarcastic yet again I guess!

The part of taking you seriously, was only that you seemed grumpy.

The only problem with the sarcasm, is that its probably more fun to write than to read.

Possibly comes from working with a guy once, who just used sarcasm 100% of the time, Thinking it was smart, and I got real bored by it.

Its gets a bit dull, if overdone or none too subtle IMHO. There are other techniques to create humour, rather than purely writing the opposite of what is common sense.

Looking back at some of Nic Frenchies older posts, and I see some really funny stuff, in a non sarcastic way because of the purely funny experiences, perhaps from culture clash and misunderstandings (when he was in a good mood, that is).

I don't claim to have any great writing skills myself, but try to keep it straightforward.

Run Mann
04-12-12, 13:01
This is very specific to the BKK thread. You do not have such stupid ratio (50/1) between mongering and non mongering posts in any other thread. Well so be it, if this what the local BKK ISG members want to do. There are other sources of info elsewhere for those of us who just want, as Jackson says, to share info on sex. So, yes, I went elsewhere to "get a life", and got it.

BTW, there are clear rules and guidance, but they are not followed, and, yes there are no penalties. This is because Jackson is alone, and does not monitor. I know of many other sites which have delegated monitoring to more people, and such non mongering posts would eitehr be deleted, or reassembled in new threads. Can't understand why we can't have some more threads about restaurants, politics, whatever, and keep one just for sex.

But who am I to say that. I should go away and get a life.This is not what the local BKK 1SG members want; if you look at types of post you're referring to they're posted mostly by a squadron of members who have high jacked this thread. Most of them don't even appear to be in Thailand. If Admin can't win this issue though, no one will so enjoy the reports you can and ignore the ones you can't. There's fun to be had out there in this land.

Syzygies
04-12-12, 13:03
Let's see. You did not negotiate the price, took her an hour to travel to your place, you enjoyed it very much and you did not pay her what she asked. It's people like you who make others look bad.

You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.Duni,

It took her an hour total. She made 2k for 1 hour (including the travel time of 5 mins) (not too bad) and he was expecting to pay the same as last time, since the price wasn't discussed. I don't negotiate price up front normally, but I don't think I would pay whatever the girl asked for afterwards, nor do I think you would. I would pay a fair amount, and probably same as last time, unless she had clearly worked a lot harder than normal, or was a very long ST.

Girls do get slightly baffled by me at times, because I don't pay exactly the same every time. Shit I can't even always remember what I paid last time. I tend to pay based on effort, performance, and duration, with some bonus for top looks and body. However I am known to be very fair or better than fair I think.

Girls that make a habit of pleading for extra money when have already been paid very well, don't thrill me much, and tends to put me off getting the hots for them next time.

Giotto
04-12-12, 15:58
.

But who am I to say that. I should go away and get a life.Nahhh,

You better stay.


Giotto

Giotto
04-12-12, 16:04
.

The only problem with the sarcasm, is that its probably more fun to write than to read.

Possibly comes from working with a guy once, who just used sarcasm 100% of the time, Thinking it was smart, and I got real bored by it.

I don't claim to have any great writing skills myself, but try to keep it straightforward.Syzygies,

No idea where it comes from. Grumpy?

My idea is: You stick to your straightforward writing style, and I stick to my straightforward sarcasm. And both of us are happy, ok? Let's not get too serious about writing styles.


Giotto

Wolf Hound
04-12-12, 16:25
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PinkPearl
04-12-12, 17:33
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?

Thanks in advance for getting back on track. FWell, I don't know where your hotel is, other than "downtown", but let's assume it's near NEP. Then you have these options:

The Nana Parking Lot.

The Nana Entertainment Plaza.

Nana Liquid disco.

The bars & streetwalkers in the nearby vicinity.

I wouldn't bother with Annies, as they seldom have any beautiful girls at any time of day, let alone 1-2 AM, if they're even open. I'd expect much the same with Dr. BJ's. Maybe they could try recruiting a handful of the 1000's of drop dead gorgeous females one can see in or near MBK every day.

Rick666
04-12-12, 22:33
I think Wolfhound is acting out of line.

This poster needs a warning from Jackson.

Tony Hoeprano
04-13-12, 00:40
At the airport, after checking into immigration, I walked toward the luggage area and noticed a horrible stench of BO, mind you, I've played a lot of school yard basketball, but this was the foulest odor I've had enough misfortune of smelling. I looked to me left and there were 7 or 8 indians standing there. I feel sorry for anyone other has to sit next to these stinky peoples in the airplane!

Anyways, Just got back from Dream Heaven massage on Soi 33. This place has quite a few hot girls from what I saw. I chose Tip, this girl has nice big tits and hot ass, more curvy than the average thai girls. I chose the nuru option for 2300 and it was well worth it. Got in the shower with her (naked of course) and I'm not sure where all this crap about thai babe's not being seductive came from, but this girl had it in spades. Service was great for such a hot chick too, great BJ and the whole 9 yards. After the first shot she gave me massage, I actually fell sleep. LOL. Got another round with her for extra 500. I might go back and pick 2 girls.

Zenlove
04-13-12, 03:31
Hi Tony,

I have traveled to Delhi and Mumbai quite a few times from BKK and had the misfortune to sit next to a few of these stinky people who are totally illiterate, uncivilized and morons. I was told by the flight attendants that they work as carriers / mules bringing electronic and other contraband items into India for a small fee. The general educated Indian population does not fit this category. I have tons of Indian friends who carry themselves professionally and smells better than many westerners I frequent with. Thailand has a huge population of these stinkos who are leaving a bad impression of the Indians.

NicFrenchy
04-13-12, 04:02
I don't claim to have any great writing skills myself, but try to keep it straightforward.Here I go away for a long while and I see you're still complaining. Things haven't changed. (Except the prices at Annies Maybe) hahahahaha.

Mr Enternational
04-13-12, 05:27
Looking back at some of Nic Frenchies older posts, and I see some really funny stuff, in a non sarcastic way because of the purely funny experiences, perhaps from culture clash and misunderstandings (when he was in a good mood, that is).
Here I go away for a long while and I see you're still complaining. Things haven't changed. (Except the prices at Annies Maybe) hahahahaha.Speak of the devil. Good to see you back.

NicFrenchy
04-13-12, 05:45
Speak of the devil. Good to see you back.Thanks. Good to be back.

Done the non-P4P for too long, time to get back to some serious Massage-time. Reviews will come soon.

Dreams
04-13-12, 10:52
Nahhh,

You better stay.

GiottoToo late, have already gone. But I may come back, don't worry, there is too much fun to be had in BKK, even without the "help" of useless posts on ISG.

Madam
04-13-12, 11:41
Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?

Chill Out
04-13-12, 11:57
Good to see you back, Frenchy.

Mooris7
04-13-12, 16:37
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

JacksonI have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.

Iowaska
04-13-12, 17:46
Hi all, I'm going to Thailand end of May, for two weeks, with my gf and two other couples (6 in total. All friends)

We arrive in Bangkok spend 3nights then travel to coh Chang spend 5 nights, then back to Bancok for another 3 nights (don't ask why the gf booked it! LOL).

I desperately wanted to go without the Mrs but because she's already been, there was no way she was gona let me go alone so we ended up in this group situation. Being as its 3 boys and 3 girls, the lads will Defo have a boys night out (a few if its up to me!)

My friend at work says pattya is a must for one night at least and we also intend to attend a moon party whilst were in co Chang one of the neighbouring islands are hosting one, just needed some advice on how best to punt and manouver to get the best possible experiences given the situation as I would want to slit my wrists if I came back to London without adequate exploration. Thanks.

Hi all, ima taking a verything is already pre booked and paid. Were arriving in Bangkok sat 26th may and are staying@glow Trinity hotel, on 29th we take private minibus to Trat. Ferry to koh Chang, once in koh Chang were staying@aana Resort until 6th June then back to Bangkok by minibus / ferry to stay at sky tower hotel leaving Bangkok for London on the 8th June. I understand there are loads of small islands surrounding coh Chang so I want to visit as many of them as possible, just looking for maximum experience out of a limited situation, I think I may have to feint argument just before holiday to gain some freedom / leverage. Hehe. Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?

Thanks

Zenlove
04-13-12, 20:32
Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?No one will come that far for an outcall unless you pay 1000 baht extra for the cabbie. The best bet is you take a taxi to Sukhumvit area, get to a massage joint like Mango, Tulip etc and enjoy the full service there, do some shopping and then head back to the hotel. Instead of the cab, you may opt for the far cheaper airport express train option.

Good luck

Daddy07
04-14-12, 00:08
I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.And what does your post add to anthing you're talking aobut?

GentleBoner
04-14-12, 02:35
I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.

BionicMan
04-14-12, 04:24
Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?None of my business, but are you forced to stay in that hotel?

Nana is appr 40' taxi ride.

NicFrenchy
04-14-12, 05:49
Can we please stop discussing socialized medicine and maybe get back on topic.All of that really shows you that kicking us Expats out of these pages achieved nothing. These Topics still will come back and be discussed here. Got to love Anarchy.

NicFrenchy
04-14-12, 06:02
Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?How long are you going to be staying in BKK? I mean, out of all the Hotels to pick, Novotel Suva is the worst. If you absolutely need a Novotel, they've got a nice one at Ploenchit.

Novotel Suva is ok for a few hours to relax and take a shower but if you got a Whole night, then better go in the city.

I know some will say that there is the Airport Link and Whatnot. Well, as far as I am concerned, Airport Link is shit if you have luggage. Actually, even if you don't it's still shit LOL.

I travel a lot and for me, can't beat a nice taxi to relax after a plane ride. I don't care about the price.

LAst week I was talking to some dumbass tourist who was proud to have taken the A-Link and saved 200thb. I nodded and smiled but was thinking "Dude! You come all the way to Thailand to save $5 on Airport Transportation?" Give me a Fucking Break!

(Sorry, it's my first week back here and I'm in a "I don't give a Shit mood". I'm sure it'll pass. After I get laid)

Fon Tok
04-14-12, 08:35
I travel a lot and for me, can't beat a nice taxi to relax after a plane ride. I don't care about the price. LAst week I was talking to some dumbass tourist who was proud to have taken the A-Link and saved 200thb. I nodded and smiled but was thinking "Dude! You come all the way to Thailand to save $5 on Airport Transportation?" Give me a Fucking Break!For me, at certain times of the day, a short taxi ride to/from the fast Phaya Thai Express train can be faster than a taxi all the way from the airport (I live off of Sathorn).

Go get laid.

Syzygies
04-14-12, 09:14
I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.And its been said many times before you. Its clear that saying these things doesn't work in the long term, even if causes some temporary abatement.

Creating the Expat Forum doesn't help much. I for one, don't look at the Expat threads, and probably many others don't too. Therefore Expats won't wish to stay in those threads, even if they wish to write on non-mongering topics. Many expats or long term members don't appear to wish to write much about actual mongering experiences. But this is what the forum is about. Top places to find hot girls. If we didn't get some reports in this mode, the forum would become next to useless. Which bars are good, which soapies have nice girls, which Oilies are pornstar, which are good for GFE, which are best freelancer spots, etc. Personally, I include plenty of actual experience reports, particularly if at a new place or tried a new girl. I do understand if long term members don't want to report on the same place / same girl they have reported on before, but would still like to see an increase in the experience reports, particularly where posters had a good time. Posting experience reports should not be just for newbies!

Thread off-topic reports are a fact of life. However the General Thread is a good place for starting those topics.

Syzygies
04-14-12, 09:56
I didn't post this report originally as was busy.

Hooked up with my regular girl at Sheba. Little thing, but with fabulous best bottom in the house. Only A cups but I don't care. She is a bit Dingk-Dong (crazy). Smokes, drinks, probably takes mild drugs, is too loud, you name it, everything is wrong just like a typical longer term bar-girl. She is a lot of fun and made her a long term friend, but never could be a GF, since its doubtful if she could behave properly for extended time."You can take the girl out of the bar, but you cannot take the bar out of the girl!" She works the bar freelance to finance her studies at that well known part-time university looked on with total scorn by the likes of OTH. So isn't a "real" uni student. As freelance, she only turns up to work when she feels like it, but certainly if I call, she will show up. She is sometimes very horny, and likes to have sex in various places around the room, not just on the bed. Sometimes demands very extended foreplay before getting to the real fucking. Was very happy when I bought her a high quality rechargable vibrator, for when she is not working. Likes to watch me fucking other girls, and often asks me to put porno movies on during foreplay before sex.

Took her and another little thing (out of the lesbian show) that appealed to me, to do the two on one. Had to wait a while, as other customers were also showing interest in the new girl, buying her drinks, but I indicated that if they really wanted her they had better BF her before I did it. I gave the girl the opportunity to choose her customer too. There was little doubt I would winout unless another guy BFed her promptly. Later found out the new girl was just legal (embarassingly) , even though had a baby already, as I had little idea about her age initially.

My regular girl asked me to put some porn on to warm us up. I didn't have any porn DVDs, so had to get X-Art off the net (redtube).
The new girl turned out to be an incredibly great feeling fuck. Something about her body shape, curvature, and pussy feel, was well above normal.

I like very much having my balls licked while fucking another girl. I also like kissing two girls at the same time, with extra tongues floating around my mouth. Even though the girls haven't worked togther before, they warmed to each other quickly.

My regular girl got fucked a bit less than the new girl, as the new girl's pussy could take me deaper (all the way). However my regular girl was willing to return to me in the morning so I get a morning fuck too. She doesn't stay all night, usually, since often wouldn't sleep at night and prefers to party with other bar girls (and sleep in the daytime).

The experience was so pleasurable, that I had to repeat again the next night, despite the cost of two girls. The bar tried to get me to take 3 this time since another girl I have done several times was available. Since I couldn't imagine any improvement, I stuck to the two girls again. By this time, they were used to each other and doing "lesbian style" pussy licking on each other too. They are not true lesbians, but like to receive good licking from wherever, and are willing to serve.

Next time I might to get both girls for all nighter, since then I could possibly get more fucking than sleep, with my tag team.

Recemmendation: When taking two girls, get them from the lesbian show if possible, as these girls are used to performing with other girls. Choose a girl and get her to help you choose another that she particularly likes, as well as you liking. Better if at least one of the girls is reasonably experienced.

The girl that was pointed out to me as the top Sheba girl, didn't interest me at all. Face average (boring), not quite a full Thai look, haircut to appeal to Japanese, tits big natural but saggy shape, bottom and legs average, overall slightly over weight, age very young (too young?). Fortunately my taste is very different, prefering slimmer "models" (okay they are too short to be models) with great bottoms and cute noses.

NicFrenchy
04-14-12, 10:03
If we didn't get some reports in this mode, the forum would become next to useless.Very well said! So to start things off, I'll give you the twitter version Of my experience yesterday:

Massage soi24 2shots 2300 all in. Great face / nice boobs #will repeat

Syzygies
04-14-12, 10:14
Very well said! So to start things off, I'll give you the twitter version Of my experience yesterday:

Massage soi24 2shots 2300 all in. Great face / nice boobs #will repeatHa Ha! :D And you know very well, you are supposed to write proper English, or at least "near English" like me. ;) Which Massage?

LittleBigMan
04-14-12, 11:11
The USA may soon have to copy Thailand in certain regards, loosen medical malpractice tort laws (for damage suits) and allow drugs stores and other sub-licensed entities to become part of the treatment options (more drugs available etc) , as the USA health system eventually collapses under it own weight.

All countries have hybrid systems, the issue is one of percentage, both the absolute level, and the overall trend, and the case with China is a clearcut example of what can happen when you unshackle socialist restraints and move toward capitalism if only in incremental steps.

I'm well aware of the larger picture. The fact that the United States is a sinking ship now listing on its side, weighed down by an ever expanding entitlement state overlayed by a de facto open borders policy for at least three decades now, where illegals often have more benefits and handouts than citizens. The (must treat) law was cited simply to refute the nonsensical idea of someone being taken out of an ambulence, then supposedly dying outside the emergency room because short of funds, and course (as an unfunded mandate) it has huge problems, one of which is of the significant cost shifting to those of us paying private premiums, such premiums having doubled or tripled in recent years, in part to pay for such programs. National health care won't solve the problem if the USA continues an open borders and open welfare policy for all such immigrants. By the way, Obamacare if not rescinded, is perhaps only one or two federal court decisions away from illegals qualifying under its various new entitlements (since constitutionally speaking they are deemed, by mere physical presence in the USA,"persons" and thus guaranteed certain rights) so Obama was in fact "lying" just as Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina stated.

Every new entitlement or welfare program intented to solve a certain problem, ends up causing a 1000 new problems.Western787,

I will give you your respond in the Expat Opinions thread! This is certainly not being done for you M7 and others. Many of you haven't been on this board long enough to understand why some of these threads were created and certainly many of you impatients individuals don't want to know why?

LBM

NicFrenchy
04-14-12, 15:20
Anyone Remembers this place? Was there yesterday.

Cunning Stunt
04-14-12, 16:58
I have noticed an increasing number of vendors selling viagra / cialis etc in the Sukhumvit night market. Has anyone bought from one of these guys? Did it work or is it just nasty counterfeit shit?

Jgm005
04-14-12, 18:09
I Believe I do. It is in Washington Square which is becoming a wasteland of sorts. Some places still exist but on real short leases. I had a girl there in the bar one time last year. Most of them were, hmm, less than a 5."If" I am correct in it being in Washington Square.


Anyone Remembers this place? Was there yesterday.

PinkPearl
04-14-12, 18:53
I have noticed an increasing number of vendors selling viagra / cialis etc in the Sukhumvit night market. Has anyone bought from one of these guys? Did it work or is it just nasty counterfeit shit?I don't know, but I've noticed that too. Also more sex toys for sale.

PinkPearl
04-14-12, 19:06
I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.
And its been said many times before you. Its clear that saying these things doesn't work in the long term, even if causes some temporary abatement.Perhaps a more proactive approach would be to focus on the BKK sex reports already made by commenting on them and asking for additional details or info. IOW milking the guys telling you their experiences with girls for all they're worth. Who knows, maybe by responding to their posts and saying something about them, they'd be encouraged to offer more of the same about the ladies. I think so. At least it would bring more attention in the direction you want it.

NicFrenchy
04-15-12, 02:36
I Believe I do. It is in Washington Square which is becoming a wasteland of sorts. Some places still exist but on real short leases. I had a girl there in the bar one time last year. Most of them were, hmm, less than a 5."If" I am correct in it being in Washington Square.Yessss you are correct! This used to be WILD COUNTRY in Washington Square. I have fond memories of Wild country, Used to be (for me) one of the Sleaziest place in BKK.

You walk-in, Pay 60THB / Glass Cheap Whisky to the Girls and they would do anything you want. Usually you buy a few rounds ( 500thb) and tip 200 300 thb the lady that has Sucked you.

Simple.

Now, I recall a Story from a Punter that made me Run away from this place. This Senior Member was at Wild-Country having a BJ and just "Came" in the girls mouth. The Girl Swallowed immediately when a Customer waled-in. She rushed to him and asked him to sit down. Sat beside him and French Kissed the Dude. THAT is my image of Wild country!

Goatscrot
04-15-12, 06:01
Yessss you are correct! This used to be WILD COUNTRY in Washington Square. I have fond memories of Wild country, Used to be (for me) one of the Sleaziest place in BKK.

You walk-in, Pay 60THB / Glass Cheap Whisky to the Girls and they would do anything you want. Usually you buy a few rounds (500thb) and tip 200 300 thb the lady that has Sucked you.

Simple.

Now, I recall a Story from a Punter that made me Run away from this place. This Senior Member was at Wild-Country having a BJ and just "Came" in the girls mouth. The Girl Swallowed immediately when a Customer waled-in. She rushed to him and asked him to sit down. Sat beside him and French Kissed the Dude. THAT is my image of Wild country!Wonderful memories of Miss Big Bird and Khun Tee Hee as well. Think I saw that scenario your described played out several times there. Was a great bar!

Friar Tuck
04-15-12, 11:02
Wonderful memories of Miss Big Bird and Khun Tee Hee as well. Think I saw that scenario your described played out several times there. Was a great bar!Just for a second I thought that guy was me, but no. Alas, in my case, the girl had NOT swallowed. Not good! Held my nerve and did not give those fuckers the laugh they were looking for. Great idea, but luckily, after we played swapsies for a minute or two, she realised she was out-tongued amd swallowed what was left! Oh yeah, I won that one.

Tuck

Cunning Stunt
04-15-12, 18:48
Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing!

Goatscrot
04-15-12, 19:10
Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing!Agreed! Just don't like it. Sorry when someone is in business clothes and does not want to get doused with water and you douse them, it is inconsiderate, in every culture. I have tried to like this holiday but just can't. I at least get out once during the three days and amble to Cowboy for a bit, but whenever I pass someone that obviously does not want to get wet, I would not even think about dousing them. Passive aggressive this holiday is. Now if they would turn this into a three day feast and orgy, I would be game.

Tony Hoeprano
04-15-12, 19:39
Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing!Some falang think, despite being 6-3 and built like Warren Sapp after a cake eating contest, they'll suddenly be transformed into a little Thai guy after celebrating Songkran. Kinda like Mexicans coming to the USA and celebrating Hanukkah so they can be rich Jews.

Mooris7
04-15-12, 21:50
This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.Post op ladyboy! I think you need to give your head a shake! Since when do post op ladyboys have children. If you have nothing useful to report please stay off the forum! I would beg to differ on your observation. I know she has children!

Mooris7
04-15-12, 22:00
This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.
You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. CongratsYou are just a troll, I am sorry! You have nothing useful to say! One member says she is decent looking and you think she is a post op ladyboy LOL

Mooris7
04-15-12, 22:30
This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.She is clearly not a post op ladyboy! Take a look at her figure. Anyways you guys can debate over these pictures and judge for yourself. I did not know that Thai doctors could do such a good job that at post op can get pregnant LOL

Mooris7
04-15-12, 22:37
This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.And you all know where she works so you can go see for yourself!

Mooris7
04-15-12, 22:47
Recently I have had a lot of luck on Badoo for freebies. I met this 30 year old a few weeks back. We had dinner a few times after the second date she invited herself back to my condo. Told me she had not had sex in 2 years. She has two children and spends most times looking after them and working. I started with DATY and I swear this chick went nuts. After 10 minutes of this she grabbed my cock and yelled fuck me! She tried to put me in with no condom. I was tempted but managed to grab a cover. I swear this chick was so loud someone actually banged on the floor from upstairs LOL. She was surprised I could fuck so long. LOL I only took 30 minutes LOL. The best part about her was her nice small round firm ass. Anyways if you don't mind going on a few dates then Badoo is a good source for freebies. I also went to mix club recently and picked up a half Thai half Singapore girl. It was great fun picking her up and fucking her at the end of the night. I did not get a pic of her personally but asked me to send me one. I will post these in the photo gallery. Anyways check out mix as an alternative to Climax, Insomnia, and Therma. I found it to be a meat market full of willing chics, some freebies and some freelancers. Maybe a little pricey for some of you guys LOL!

Mynameis66
04-15-12, 23:07
Sounds like an excellent time! Thanks for the great post! I'm heading to Thailand in June. Can't wait to try a duo like this.


I didn't post this report originally as was busy.

Hooked up with my regular girl at Sheba. Little thing, but with fabulous best bottom in the house. Only A cups but I don't care. She is a bit Dingk-Dong (crazy). Smokes, drinks, probably takes mild drugs, is too loud, you name it, everything is wrong just like a typical longer term

Recemmendation: When taking two girls, get them from the lesbian show if possible, as these girls are used to performing with other girls. Choose a girl and get her to help you choose another that she particularly likes, as well as you liking. Better if at least one of the girls is reasonably experienced.

Mynameis66
04-15-12, 23:29
Very high quality post! Any more details on what goes into a 2-week millionaires suitcase? I'll be making the same journey in about 8 weeks.


It's 4 AM and my ride to Chicago O'Hare Airport is arriving in exactly 1 hour. You know where I'm going otherwise I wouldn't be writing this. This will be my 4th trip to Thailand marking this airport taxi as a ride I surely would not want to miss. I have all the essentials of a 2-week millionaire dispersed across my bed with an empty suitcase in the middle soon to be filled with said essentials. Packing my suitcase is the last remaining obstacle between me and another episode of LOS. My process becomes interrupted though when I feel a lump in the front pocket of my suitcase as I pick it up to load it. Curious I stick my hand in the offending pocket to see what it is. I haven't touched this suitcase since I unpacked it from my last trip to Thailand 7 months ago. I reach in and pull out two objects and study them. I never use the front pockets of my suitcase and I don't smoke so why was it that I had in my hand a half full pack of cigarettes and a pink lighter. The pack was silver and green in color and was a bit wrinkled and compressed. It had Thai script written across the front and down the sides. The pink lighter was. Well. It was pink. I pull out one of the cigarettes and smell it. More so as a memory jogger than for any other reason. Muted tones of menthol. It had the intended effect. It was mental chloroform as my memory laid down a path to the only possible explanation. It was about 7 months ago.

Daddy07
04-15-12, 23:55
Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing!Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already.

And we have 4 more days to go before the grand finale on the 19th.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a great vacation in my room.

The girls who come to see me are soaked to the bone.

GentleBoner
04-16-12, 01:47
Conversely, I love seeing uptight joyless sexpats getting soaked with a water gun despite their glares for mercy.

Nickstick69
04-16-12, 02:57
Yessss you are correct! This used to be WILD COUNTRY in Washington Square. I have fond memories of Wild country, Used to be (for me) one of the Sleaziest place in BKK.

You walk-in, Pay 60THB / Glass Cheap Whisky to the Girls and they would do anything you want. Usually you buy a few rounds (500thb) and tip 200 300 thb the lady that has Sucked you.

Simple.

Now, I recall a Story from a Punter that made me Run away from this place. This Senior Member was at Wild-Country having a BJ and just "Came" in the girls mouth. The Girl Swallowed immediately when a Customer waled-in. She rushed to him and asked him to sit down. Sat beside him and French Kissed the Dude. THAT is my image of Wild country!I was in BKK late June of last year looking for Wild Country but it had already met its demise the previous week. A week too late! Strange as it was, nobody around Washington Square seemed to know what had happened.

So, I headed down to Patpong for some Kangaroo Club afternoon sleaze which fit the bill.

Question: is there another bar anywhere in BKK like Wild Country? I know Soi Cowboy has After Skool which is "hands on," but it doesn't seem quite the same as what I've heard about WC. Besides Pattaya Soi 6, anywhere to get the "all hands on deck" attention for a round of cheap whiskey?

Tony Hoeprano
04-16-12, 03:45
Conversely, I love seeing uptight joyless sexpats getting soaked with a water gun despite their glares for mercy.No offense mr Boner, but judging from your online demeanor, I think you would enjoy seeing acts of animal cruelty!

Cunning Stunt
04-16-12, 04:30
Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already.No thank you. I experienced the Thai water torture Pattayan style last year and once is enough. At least in Bangkok, if you are reasonably dressed, most will demur from soaking you and all you tend to get are a few restrained squirts. In Pattaya you know that no matter if you were dressed as the pope, you would be a soaking wet pope within yards of leaving the hotel.

I went to Panthip Plaza yesterday and did a lot of walking, past many groups throwing water about. I was within yards of my hotel and congratulating myself for escaping relatively unhosed. But I failed to spot the 4 year old boy with the bucket of water. Aaaaarrrggghhh.

GentleBoner
04-16-12, 04:40
No offense mr Boner, but judging from your online demeanor, I think you would enjoy seeing acts of animal cruelty!If you equate getting shot with a water gun to animal cruelty, it's possible you may take yourself a bit too seriously.

Fon Tok
04-16-12, 05:17
Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already. And we have 4 more days to go before the grand finale on the 19th. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a great vacation in my room. The girls who come to see me are soaked to the bone.Paradise with an ocean view (and BJs, too), huh?

Daddy, I took "one for the team" yesterday and got a little wet. It must have been fun as I work up late this morning with a slight hangover and some sore joints (including my face from laughing too much)!

See you after Walking Street dries out. ;)

Apeman 28
04-16-12, 05:22
Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already.

And we have 4 more days to go before the grand finale on the 19th.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a great vacation in my room.

The girls who come to see me are soaked to the bone.Yep Pattaya is a joke as it never fucking ends, thus my recent trip I bypassed Pattaya but fucked up coming back from Cambodia by a day and copped it big time in Soi 4 Nana Bangkok. I had to use Dynasty Inn Taxi (twice the cab rate) via the back door so I could escape dry. I will make sure I miss the crap on any future trips. They should just restrict it to certain areas and stop the dudes driving around as the local papers report of the fatalities and injuries caused by idiots and drunks. I saw a article where someone recommended total alcohol ban, now that would get people thinking and screw up tourism.

Fun Pete
04-16-12, 07:47
If you have the slightest suspicion of her being a lady boy, stay away!

Daddy07
04-16-12, 08:40
Yep Pattaya is a joke as it never fucking ends, thus my recent trip I bypassed Pattaya but fucked up coming back from Cambodia by a day and copped it big time in Soi 4 Nana Bangkok. I had to use Dynasty Inn Taxi (twice the cab rate) via the back door so I could escape dry. I will make sure I miss the crap on any future trips. They should just restrict it to certain areas and stop the dudes driving around as the local papers report of the fatalities and injuries caused by idiots and drunks. I saw a article where someone recommended total alcohol ban, now that would get people thinking and screw up tourism.
Paradise with an ocean view (and BJs, too) , huh?

Daddy, I took "one for the team" yesterday and got a little wet. It must have been fun as I work up late this morning with a slight hangover and some sore joints (including my face from laughing too much)!Yeah, if they would only restrict it to certain areas and not allow the drive by shootings it would be OK. One day of the madness would be enough too. A week is far too much.

If it were on one day only, I might even partake, as I did once a few years ago at the beach wearing a swimsuit. Got my face painted by a little girl while I stopped and bent down to let her have her way with me. Got soaked with buckets of water and squirt guns. It was fun for awile.

But last year there was no escaping it from where I live. A motorbike ride the length of Jomtien Beach Road is like a gauntlet through a crowd of savage sadists. Some of them have ice water in their buckets and will splash you with 5 gallons as you're driving along at 40 KMH. It's dangerous. Not fun. Now I just stock up on groceries the week before the mahem, hunker down and wait it out.

I still get serviced in the usual manner so it's not that bad.

Low season is here at LAST!

See you soon, Fon Tok.

Goatscrot
04-16-12, 09:20
Yeah, if they would only restrict it to certain areas and not allow the drive by shootings it would be OK. One day of the madness would be enough too. A week is far too much.

If it were on one day only, I might even partake, as I did once a few years ago at the beach wearing a swimsuit. Got my face painted by a little girl while I stopped and bent down to let her have her way with me. Got soaked with buckets of water and squirt guns. It was fun for awile.

But last year there was no escaping it from where I live. A motorbike ride the length of Jomtien Beach Road is like a gauntlet through a crowd of savage sadists. Some of them have ice water in their buckets and will splash you with 5 gallons as you're driving along at 40 KMH. It's dangerous. Not fun. Now I just stock up on groceries the week before the mahem, hunker down and wait it out.

I still get serviced in the usual manner so it's not that bad.

Low season is here at LAST!

See you soon, Fon Tok.I think many of us farang feel that one. One day would be perfect. Go out, party, and have fun. But three days, as in the case with BKK, and a WEEK, in the case of Pattaya is overkill!

LittleBigMan
04-16-12, 10:23
yeah, if they would only restrict it to certain areas and not allow the drive by shootings it would be ok. one day of the madness would be enough too. a week is far too much.

if it were on one day only, i might even partake, as i did once a few years ago at the beach wearing a swimsuit. got my face painted by a little girl while i stopped and bent down to let her have her way with me. got soaked with buckets of water and squirt guns. it was fun for awile.

but last year there was no escaping it from where i live. a motorbike ride the length of jomtien beach road is like a gauntlet through a crowd of savage sadists. some of them have ice water in their buckets and will splash you with 5 gallons as you're driving along at 40 kmh. it's dangerous. not fun. now i just stock up on groceries the week before the mahem, hunker down and wait it out.

i still get serviced in the usual manner so it's not that bad.

low season is here at last!

see you soon, fon tok.daddy07,

you got to loosen up as i told you i got you cover? you still got your hair and it is i say a good full set! come out i have been at it for 3 days now and will do 2 more until the 19th. if you do please don't wear your speedo that you wore a few years back!

let get wet and wild where else can you have this much fun at our age?

Joe Looking
04-16-12, 14:17
So far in Bangkok I have:

*Been hustled at a Ping Pong show (the one where some tout says it's free to watch and 60THB for a coke, you stay for 5 minutes and they try to charge you 6000THB because the bitches have put drinks on your table and they say you must pay the door fee.)

*Had fun at a legitimate Ping Pong show and took a girl from their (big mistake taking the girl who sticks inanimate objects up her pussy for a living)

*Got a good BJ at Star of Light.

*Picked up a chick under an overpass on her way home from Soi Cowboy on NYE.

*Picked up a FL near Nana Complex.

I will be back in Bangkok at least 2 more times on my way to and from Burma and need some advice so that I can step up the quality of service I have been getting and possibly step down the price. At the moment my wardrobe is limited to flip flops, shorts and a pretty cruddy pair of trail shoes. I saw tons of clothes / shoes for sale on the streets and was wondering if those of you who live in BKK buy your clothes here or elsewhere. I'm really just looking for a pair of jeans (maybe slacks) that fit well and a pair of boat shoes or casual loafers. When I go back I hope to go to Annies and possibly a couple of the night clubs where people report finding freebies. If luck pays off I may also be able to get a date through one of the various meeting sites. I want some better clothes because it is my understanding that although I am a tourist, I may get a better reception from the Thai ladies if I dress a bit better.

Lastly, and I hate to ask and feel a bit awkward doing so, but is anyone open to hanging out and showing me around a bit when I come back into town.

Thanks in advance

Chill Out
04-16-12, 16:29
Conversely, I love seeing uptight joyless sexpats getting soaked with a water gun despite their glares for mercy.Ahah! So do I.

Duniawala
04-16-12, 16:42
Agreed! Just don't like it. Sorry when someone is in business clothes and does not want to get doused with water and you douse them, it is inconsiderate, in every culture. I have tried to like this holiday but just can't. I at least get out once during the three days and amble to Cowboy for a bit, but whenever I pass someone that obviously does not want to get wet, I would not even think about dousing them. Passive aggressive this holiday is. Now if they would turn this into a three day feast and orgy, I would be game.Just lighten up and enjoy. Why would you want to go around in a business suit when you KNOW there will be water thrown all over. Now if you were 60+ y/o I can understand, but if you are young you should participate and not be a dour falaang. Life is not all about orgies, or is it? .

Crazy4Thai
04-16-12, 17:56
She is clearly not a post op ladyboy! Take a look at her figure. Anyways you guys can debate over these pictures and judge for yourself. I did not know that Thai doctors could do such a good job that at post op can get pregnant LOLIn my judgement she is a lady.

It appears that she does not like you much though.

C4T

Daddy07
04-17-12, 00:03
Just lighten up and enjoy. Why would you want to go around in a business suit when you KNOW there will be water thrown all over.Uh; maybe he has business. Do ya think?

Tony Hoeprano
04-17-12, 00:22
So far in Bangkok I have:

*Been hustled at a Ping Pong show (the one where some tout says it's free to watch and 60THB for a coke, you stay for 5 minutes and they try to charge you 6000THB because the bitches have put drinks on your table and they say you must pay the door fee.)

*Had fun at a legitimate Ping Pong show and took a girl from their (big mistake taking the girl who sticks inanimate objects up her pussy for a living)

*Got a good BJ at Star of Light. Why.

*Picked up a chick under an overpass on her way home from Soi Cowboy on NYE.

*Picked up a FL near Nana Complex.

I will be back in Bangkok at least 2 more times on my way to and from Burma and need some advice so that I can step up the quality of service I have been getting and possibly step down the price. At the moment my wardrobe is limited to flip flops, shorts and a pretty cruddy pair of trail shoes. I saw tons of clothes / shoes for sale on the streets and was wondering if those of you who live in BKK buy your clothes here or elsewhere. I'm really just looking for a pair of jeans (maybe slacks) that fit well and a pair of boat shoes or casual loafers. When I go back I hope to go to Annies and possibly a couple of the night clubs where people report finding freebies. If luck pays off I may also be able to get a date through one of the various meeting sites. I want some better clothes because it is my understanding that although I am a tourist, I may get a better reception from the Thai ladies if I dress a bit better.

Lastly, and I hate to ask and feel a bit awkward doing so, but is anyone open to hanging out and showing me around a bit when I come back into town.

Thanks in advanceThey sell a ton of imitation jeans at MBK, I've heard the quality was actually decent. Yeah, you'll need to definitely dress better to step up your gamefor free girls, ain't no hiso thai girls spreading their legs for khaosan road backpackers staying in hostels

Mooris7
04-17-12, 01:51
So far in Bangkok I have:

*Been hustled at a Ping Pong show (the one where some tout says it's free to watch and 60THB for a coke, you stay for 5 minutes and they try to charge you 6000THB because the bitches have put drinks on your table and they say you must pay the door fee.)

*Had fun at a legitimate Ping Pong show and took a girl from their (big mistake taking the girl who sticks inanimate objects up her pussy for a living)

*Got a good BJ at Star of Light.

*Picked up a chick under an overpass on her way home from Soi Cowboy on NYE.

*Picked up a FL near Nana Complex.

I will be back in Bangkok at least 2 more times on my way to and from Burma and need some advice so that I can step up the quality of service I have been getting and possibly step down the price. At the moment my wardrobe is limited to flip flops, shorts and a pretty cruddy pair of trail shoes. I saw tons of clothes / shoes for sale on the streets and was wondering if those of you who live in BKK buy your clothes here or elsewhere. I'm really just looking for a pair of jeans (maybe slacks) that fit well and a pair of boat shoes or casual loafers. When I go back I hope to go to Annies and possibly a couple of the night clubs where people report finding freebies. If luck pays off I may also be able to get a date through one of the various meeting sites. I want some better clothes because it is my understanding that although I am a tourist, I may get a better reception from the Thai ladies if I dress a bit better.

Lastly, and I hate to ask and feel a bit awkward doing so, but is anyone open to hanging out and showing me around a bit when I come back into town.

Thanks in advanceI don't know what to say about this post. You want to get better service, lower price, and your clothes are crap. I suggest you go to one of the central shopping malls or Terminal 21 and pick yourself up some decent threads. It sounds like you are looking for more cheaper ladies. You have two choices. Number one you can find many ladies in Bangkok for 500-1000 baht but you will really have to sacrifice in the looks dept. If you want freebies you will have to up your game a lot. Take them for dinner and of course you can't dress like a slob. If you do this then it is the same as spending 1500-2500 Baht for a much better looking WG either in a go go or at a club!

Goatscrot
04-17-12, 04:42
Just lighten up and enjoy. Why would you want to go around in a business suit when you KNOW there will be water thrown all over. Now if you were 60+ y/o I can understand, but if you are young you should participate and not be a dour falaang. Life is not all about orgies, or is it? .Really? Some people still have work to do. The folks I saw "well dressed" we older tourists, probably 60 up. No one should be "forced" to participate. It is one of the most passive agressive displays I have ever seen. Some of us don't enjoy having freezing water thrown on us and dousing someone who is unwilling is rude in ANY culture.

FreebieFan
04-17-12, 05:17
I have noticed an increasing number of vendors selling viagra / cialis etc in the Sukhumvit night market. Has anyone bought from one of these guys? Did it work or is it just nasty counterfeit shit?I can tell you that the Kamagra gel packs sold on Sukh night market work great and are fine and normal. But if in any doubt, go to the pharmacy thats next to the Bully pub, gas station on Sukh, extrance road to Nana. They only sell genuine generics LOL.

Nick Depalma
04-17-12, 05:48
Flying in a couple of my boys from the US to celebrate a bachelor's party / birthday party. Small group of us 4.

Only in Bangkok for 3 or 4 days, so looking for a laundry list of things to do, sorta like a mongering Anthony Bourdain.

Not into creepy sketch pump and dump places, more upscale places, but not upscale prices that our Japanese and Korean brothers pay LOL.

Seems like a soapy is the best bet? Which might be the most upscale one while keeping in line with bang for buck? Simply cannot rank with all the feedback on this forum. I guess we're looking for tried and trusted. Can't explore with this limited time.

Also, is there any place from which it would be best to say take out 4 girls, back to the pad, for a house party kinda thing? Are there any places to stay where you can rent out a space w / multiple rooms, living room, kitchen area?

Thanks for the expert advice, brothers!

GentleBoner
04-17-12, 07:52
Really? Some people still have work to do. The folks I saw "well dressed" we older tourists, probably 60 up. No one should be "forced" to participate. It is one of the most passive agressive displays I have ever seen. Some of us don't enjoy having freezing water thrown on us and dousing someone who is unwilling is rude in ANY culture.Maybe if you tell your mommy she'll help you change into some dry clothes and make you a nice warm cup of hot chocolate so you feel better

Mooris7
04-17-12, 13:56
She is clearly not a post op ladyboy! Take a look at her figure. Anyways you guys can debate over these pictures and judge for yourself. I did not know that Thai doctors could do such a good job that at post op can get pregnant LOL
And you all know where she works so you can go see for yourself!Part 2.

Originally Posted by GentleBoner [View Original Post]

This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.

And you all know where she works so you can go see for yourself!

It seems either GentleBoner has been banned or has blocked me from seeing his posts. It takes a real man to make fake ladyboy comments and then block so no response can be made or so one cannot see anymore. Well anyways back to the topic at hand. I have received many requests for the girl in questions contact details. I will only provide them to a senior member who makes good contributions to the Bangkok forum.

Thanks

Joe Looking
04-18-12, 09:20
thanks all for the advice.

i did not mean to imply that i'm looking for five star service at rock bottom prices. i am simply looking for good value for the money. i have often read that thai sex workers seem to be more transactional, and perhaps i have been spoiled in the surrounding countries, but i don't think paying a girl 1500 baht st and then having her close her eyes and turn her head is a good value. i am not looking for some kind of love connection, but when a woman shows visible signs of not wanting to be there i feel like i am [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her. i know that some men just want to find the youngest or prettiest thing to pound away on but i don't find much joy in that.

more often than not the thai women i have slept with have been duds and i cannot figure out if i am picking the wrong ones, going to the wrong places or if poor performance is just par for the course. as a rule i don't generally go for the youngest or the prettiest, i tend to favor the ones who show a bit of flirtation towards me because those are the ones i had the best time with in other countries. i know that if not me it would be some other guy; however, i think things are more fun when the woman wants to show you a good time just as much as she wants your money.

i asked about the clothes because i have noticed that outward appearance seems to mean a lot to asians and my thinking, perhaps naively, was that by presenting myself better i may be able to get a woman who will at least pretend to want to be in the bedroom with me and make me want to repeat because i prefer consistency over variety. i've also noticed that in some places the men who are dressed a bit nicer (even if it is just jeans / polo / tennis shoes) tend to get a better reception from the women.

as far as asking about the freebies. we all have to have a dream!

Tony Hoeprano
04-18-12, 14:53
Not into creepy sketch pump and dump places,Unfortunately, that's the flavor dejour these days as BKK is becoming too expensive for the cheap charlies.. Soon the complainers will be making a beeline towards Cambodia LOL.

Tony Hoeprano
04-18-12, 15:00
Also, is there any place from which it would be best to say take out 4 girls, back to the pad, for a house party kinda thing? Are there any places to stay where you can rent out a space w / multiple rooms, living room, kitchen area?

Thanks for the expert advice, brothers!Just go to Soi Cowboy or Nana plaza and see what you like and talk to Mamasan with your idea. Money talks in LOS.

Noobmonger
04-19-12, 01:09
Long story short I met a girl on ThaiFriendly and she wants to meet up with me. I said I'd take her for dinner and some drinks.

She's leaving it up to me where to pick, but did ask that we not go out in Nana, where I'm staying, because all the guys asking to take her home makes her feel uncomfortable (aren't we awful). We get along well and have had some pretty sexy chats online so I'm hoping that she might come back to my hotel at the end of the night.

So my question to you. Where can I take her for a nice meal with a decent bar nearby (where we'll be able to chat so not loud music). She said she's not fussy on food (western, thai, whatever) and it doesn't need to be 5 star but still nice.

Any suggestions please are welcomed.

Pita123
04-19-12, 01:20
Where are you staying? Easier to give suggestions if we know.

Vittu
04-19-12, 02:06
Noobmonger. None of my business, but since she is uncomfortable with Nana, I would change hotels pronto, if that is possible. Once that is settled, nothing else matters. You could even take her to Cabbages and Condoms. She will see it as great fun and will be in a giving mood.

Crazy4Thai
04-19-12, 03:24
Noobmonger. None of my business, but since she is uncomfortable with Nana, I would change hotels pronto, if that is possible. Once that is settled, nothing else matters. You could even take her to Cabbages and Condoms. She will see it as great fun and will be in a giving mood.I too was going to suggest cabbages and condoms on Suhk Soi 12 because it's good Thai food. Get her to guide you on unusual choices and the setting cannot be beat at night. Try to get a table by the fountain. If it goes well she might not care what hotel you are in.

Goatscrot
04-19-12, 03:37
Unfortunately, that's the flavor dejour these days as BKK is becoming too expensive for the cheap charlies. Soon the complainers will be making a beeline towards Cambodia LOL.Bangkok is becoming boring, losing its "edge," and is just like most other major cities now, with the noted exception that the value for money here is now quite poor and NO that is not a cheap charlie statement as I think that Singapore is a great city where everything works, you can make good money, and things are of quality.

Crazy4Thai
04-19-12, 03:43
was showing my visiting friend around last night. she's open minded and bi playful.

went to baccara and straight upstairs to the "naked" part. this choice was based on isg reports and maybe stick's column. i'm not a gogo kind of customer. prefer the oilies. my friend commented that the ladies upstairs acted like we were not even there. meaning the entire audience. they danced for each other and looked at each other with zero audience involvement. personally i don't see how a punter could want to choose in those circumstances. and no one did while we were there. we left our $5 beers and went looking.

we popped into doll house saw 5 or 6 shufflers and no customers and walked back out.

we asked at suzy wong about the show and then went into a small bar called. well i'll post that later. they had 3 or 4 dancers on stage who would engage with the audience but we got snagged up by a hot one who responded well when i asked if she liked "lady lady". she sat between us and we bought her a couple of drinks. she was wildly friendly and would raise herself up off the seat for exploration by both of us. it was great fun for a 580 baht bar bill. we went back to suzy wong to catch the show. there was one on stage that i believe 90% of us would agree is a stunner. the show was worth seeing. my friend flew home this morning and i might go back to find "our adopted daughter" tonight. [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) is best. the family that lays together stays together.

c4t

Noobmonger
04-19-12, 06:03
Where are you staying? Easier to give suggestions if we know.Staying at Maxim's Inn on Soi 7/1.

Noobmonger
04-19-12, 06:09
Noobmonger. None of my business, but since she is uncomfortable with Nana, I would change hotels pronto, if that is possible. Once that is settled, nothing else matters. You could even take her to Cabbages and Condoms. She will see it as great fun and will be in a giving mood.I got the impression she had no issue with where I was staying. It was more that she would have to walk alone through Nana to come and meet me there that she didn't like. I will consider changing, but I figured Nana would be a good place because if she doesn't come back to my hotel afterwards then I've got plenty of options on the doorstep for female company.

Also one thing I forgot to mention. I'm only in BKK for one night and won't get into my hotel until about 8pm so it'll need to be a placethat opens fairly late.

Noobmonger
04-19-12, 06:25
I did consider Cabbages and Condom, but I've never been before and wasn't too sure if it might seem a little too forward. Whilst we've discussed sex during our chats and even the possibility of her coming back to my hotel if we hit it off she is quite shy and reserved. I wasn't sure if going somewhere that had condoms everywhere might be a little much.

Crazy4Thai
04-19-12, 06:56
I did consider Cabbages and Condom, but I've never been before and wasn't too sure if it might seem a little too forward. Whilst we've discussed sex during our chats and even the possibility of her coming back to my hotel if we hit it off she is quite shy and reserved. I wasn't sure if going somewhere that had condoms everywhere might be a little much.I mean no offence when I say that your handle seems fitting. I think it's quite unusual. No, actually nearly impossible. For her to be shy and reserved and still talk about sex and the possibility of coming to your room. Do not be surprised if she turns out to be "semi-pro". Take her to C&C and you'll be glad you did.

Tony Hoeprano
04-19-12, 06:57
I got the impression she had no issue with where I was staying. It was more that she would have to walk alone through Nana to come and meet me there that she didn't like. I will consider changing, but I figured Nana would be a good place because if she doesn't come back to my hotel afterwards then I've got plenty of options on the doorstep for female company.

Also one thing I forgot to mention. I'm only in BKK for one night and won't get into my hotel until about 8pm so it'll need to be a placethat opens fairly late.Only one night? I guess you move fast LOL. Why not a sure thing at Soi Cowboy, nana, or any of the oilies?

TomJackin
04-19-12, 07:25
I did consider Cabbages and Condom, but I've never been before and wasn't too sure if it might seem a little too forward. Whilst we've discussed sex during our chats and even the possibility of her coming back to my hotel if we hit it off she is quite shy and reserved. I wasn't sure if going somewhere that had condoms everywhere might be a little much.Cabbages and Condoms has a great history in BKK. The restaurant is excellent, and now they have one in Pattaya, which I go there every visit. The food is reasonable priced and great.

Noobmonger
04-19-12, 09:09
I mean no offence when I say that your handle seems fitting. I think it's quite unusual. No, actually nearly impossible. For her to be shy and reserved and still talk about sex and the possibility of coming to your room. Do not be surprised if she turns out to be "semi-pro". Take her to C&C and you'll be glad you did.No offence taken.

We've been talking for quite some time, not just a few days, and really only recently has the topic of sex been something she was comfortable discussing. Previously when I'd mentioned it she just went quiet or changed the subject. I've always been open with her about my intentions, not looking for a relationship etc. The talking about coming to my room is something I've dropped in as a kinda "joke" so I could claim I wasn't being serious if she took offence. She laughed it off and then eventually said "maybe, we will see".

I have mentioned C&C to her and she hadn't heard of it, but she didn't have a problem with meeting at Asoke so it could be a go.

Noobmonger
04-19-12, 09:14
Only one night? I guess you move fast LOL. Why not a sure thing at Soi Cowboy, nana, or any of the oilies?I'm just passing through on the way home from Cambodia. Originally I booked my room at Soi 7/1 specifically because of it's location. But as things developed between me and this girl I figured I'd give it a shot. I guess it's the thrill of the chase. If at the end of the evening I just put her in a taxi then nothing really lost because I'll just go on the prowl in Nana or Soi Cowboy. On the plus side I will have had a chance to spend a few hours having a nice dinner with someone I get along with well.

AssLover945
04-19-12, 09:34
Hi all, I'm going to Thailand end of May, for two weeks, with my gf and two other couples (6 in total. All friends)

We arrive in Bangkok spend 3nights then travel to coh Chang spend 5 nights, then back to Bancok for another 3 nights (don't ask why the gf booked it! LOL).

I desperately wanted to go without the Mrs but because she's already been, there was no way she was gona let me go alone so we ended up in this group situation. Being as its 3 boys and 3 girls, the lads will Defo have a boys night out (a few if its up to me!)

My friend at work says pattya is a must for one night at least and we also intend to attend a moon party whilst were in co Chang one of the neighbouring islands are hosting one, just needed some advice on how best to punt and manouver to get the best possible experiences given the situation as I would want to slit my wrists if I came back to London without adequate exploration. Thanks.

Hi all, ima taking a verything is already pre booked and paid. Were arriving in Bangkok sat 26th may and are staying@glow Trinity hotel, on 29th we take private minibus to Trat. Ferry to koh Chang, once in koh Chang were staying@aana Resort until 6th June then back to Bangkok by minibus / ferry to stay at sky tower hotel leaving Bangkok for London on the 8th June. I understand there are loads of small islands surrounding coh Chang so I want to visit as many of them as possible, just looking for maximum experience out of a limited situation, I think I may have to feint argument just before holiday to gain some freedom / leverage. Hehe. Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?

ThanksU are definitely coming here to get ripped off.

Read this forum extensively, before coming or else your boys night out without any useful info will be a super waste of money.

I live here and I can meet up over a beer if you need and give some useful info.

But most importantly before you come here RTFF

Wolvenvacht
04-19-12, 11:06
Agreed! Just don't like it. Sorry when someone is in business clothes and does not want to get doused with water and you douse them, it is inconsiderate, in every culture. I have tried to like this holiday but just can't. I at least get out once during the three days and amble to Cowboy for a bit, but whenever I pass someone that obviously does not want to get wet, I would not even think about dousing them. Passive aggressive this holiday is. Now if they would turn this into a three day feast and orgy, I would be game.Well clearly you are not into the spirit of Songkran: my TGF (not a WG) really spurred me on to join the water games: She said "If you wet people you wish them happy and freshy", which may be strange English but expresses it so well.

If you have to wear a business suit and do some business during Songkran then take a taxi from door to door and above all stay away from the Nana or Soi Cowboy area. The water gives both sender and receipient good karma, so far from it being rude it is actually part and parcel of this holiday and you'd do well not to import your boring western philosophy into the LOS. Next thing you will tell us is that you cannot stand the massage girls calling you "hansum man" as it is rude to lie to someone.

Luvpuss
04-19-12, 12:52
Cabbages and Condoms has a great history in BKK. The restaurant is excellent, and now they have one in Pattaya, which I go there every visit. The food is reasonable priced and great.Ate there a few days ago. It is really good. The place was packed. I recommend the Steamed fish.

Dr BJ
04-19-12, 16:09
thanks all for the advice.

i did not mean to imply that i'm looking for five star service at rock bottom prices. i am simply looking for good value for the money. i have often read that thai sex workers seem to be more transactional, and perhaps i have been spoiled in the surrounding countries, but i don't think paying a girl 1500 baht st and then having her close her eyes and turn her head is a good value. i am not looking for some kind of love connection, but when a woman shows visible signs of not wanting to be there i feel like i am [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her. i know that some men just want to find the youngest or prettiest thing to pound away on but i don't find much joy in that.

more often than not the thai women i have slept with have been duds and i cannot figure out if i am picking the wrong ones, going to the wrong places or if poor performance is just par for the course. as a rule i don't generally go for the youngest or the prettiest, i tend to favor the ones who show a bit of flirtation towards me because those are the ones i had the best time with in other countries. i know that if not me it would be some other guy; however, i think things are more fun when the woman wants to show you a good time just as much as she wants your money.

i asked about the clothes because i have noticed that outward appearance seems to mean a lot to asians and my thinking, perhaps naively, was that by presenting myself better i may be able to get a woman who will at least pretend to want to be in the bedroom with me and make me want to repeat because i prefer consistency over variety. i've also noticed that in some places the men who are dressed a bit nicer (even if it is just jeans / polo / tennis shoes) tend to get a better reception from the women.

as far as asking about the freebies. we all have to have a dream!one of the best short times i have had recently was with a lady from baccara in soi cowboy. her name is ant (or that is what she told me anyway) and her i. d is number 25, i would highly reccomend this lady

Tony Hoeprano
04-20-12, 04:10
I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?

Sxxxx
04-20-12, 06:53
I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?Some guys cannot differentiate between attractive and unattractive, especially the newbies. It takes time.

Good, leaves the tasty ones for us, until they wake up and start to become discerning. I hope your hiso gf trades her car in for another new one, once the ashtrays are full, otherwise she will not be hi-so for very long. How do you do it? Hansum? Pay above the going rates? Big dick? Please let us in on it, a bit of hi-so every now and then does wonders.

Bowerboy
04-20-12, 10:13
i haven't been in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in years. in fact the last time i went there was when a friend was visiting from overseas.

the reason i never go there is because they are hopeless at blow jobs. all they do is bounce their head up and down and try and make you cum as quickly as possible using their mouth as a stimulant! that is not a blowjob.

i find it absolutely pathetic that none of the girls in a "blow job" bar knows how to give a blow job! amazing thailand.

last time i went i was with a friend who was fresh off the boat and feeling as horny as a tom cat. he said he couldn't cum and the blow job was the worst he had ever had. i seconded his opinion at the time and also couldn't cum.

went there today with 2 friends here on holiday and all 3 of us this time couldn't cum and all 3 thought it was the worst blow job (as stated you cannot honestly call that a blow job) they have ever had.

this is absolutely pathetic for some where that calls itself a blow job bar. surely you would expect a blow job as the baseline rather than someone just bouncing their head in your lap with their mouth open and you cock inside it!

what a f*king joke that place is!

Chill Out
04-20-12, 10:24
the real reason not to go to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is because they have some of the ugliest girls in the country. it's hard to find really ugly girls in thailand, but they have managed it well. what a team! the 45 years old lady selling you hot dogs in the street is a supermodel compared to the girls there.

Apeman 28
04-20-12, 10:38
the real reason not to go to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is because they have some of the ugliest girls in the country. it's hard to find really ugly girls in thailand, but they have managed it well. what a team! the 45 years old lady selling you hot dogs in the street is a supermodel compared to the girls there.yep agree i was there last friday and a real dog grab me to go inside, i said [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off and grab another scrubber, they are all good sorts when you close your eyes.

700 bt, beats spanking the monkey.

Gorgon
04-20-12, 10:52
i didn't even go past [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) this year, it's all about the competitors now.

the latest lollipop visit was in the middle of the day, got a sweet thin girl that sat me down with a drink and was going to explain to me what kind of a place it is. she got a bit red faced when i said "i know what you do upstairs already" while smiling. sweet girl.

anyways, expert blowjob but i wanted some fs also, she got up to fetch some condoms but i was prepared and brought my own of a good size. she is one of the few people i have seen that just took the dick in one go without warming up or going for the ky tube. she just fell down on it and got going. not a hot dog in a hall way lady either.

good times and no complaints from me.

Bowerboy
04-20-12, 11:50
Yep Agree I was there last Friday and a real dog grab me to go inside, I said [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off and grab another scrubber, they are all good sorts when you close your eyes.

700 BT, beats spanking the monkey.Disagree. Does not beat spanking the monkey at all!

Gorgon
04-20-12, 11:51
I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?To anser your troll with a troll.

Some guys look for girls that aren't empty shells of persons like the working girl dolls. Dolls expect to be treated like the dolls on soap tv. If they go TGF psyco as they do sometimes they know they still hold all the cards, after all they are high quality tits and ass. Homely girls past 25 that doesn't come from a broken home make good mothers if that is what you are looking for. They know they are on equal terms and behave there after, like normal people. If they loose it and go TGF crazy they know they will be treated as a crazy person and not calmed down with a pile of baths and a golden pendant.

I was in khon kaen for songkran and we visited a family resturant by the beach. The working girl fams, you know them, matriarch BG, sister BG, sister BG and son tuk tuk tout, dragging some farang around. They were screaming up the place, drunk as sailors, giving their ATMs lapdances in the resturant and so on. I'm sure they will settle down with their farang and start raising chickens for an actual job any time soon.

Apeman 28
04-20-12, 12:31
Disagree. Does not beat spanking the monkey at all!Mate a Head job or Root is better than a wank, Especially in the land on Beer, Bars and Birds. How else does a 3rd world country survive without any tourist $$$ and sperm deposits!

Member #4643
04-20-12, 13:29
mate a head job or root is better than a wank, especially in the land on beer, bars and birds. how else does a 3rd world country survive without any tourist $$$ and sperm deposits!my experience in bkk is very limited, as i really just stopped in the city for a few days on the way from australia to holland on a business trip where returning to the usa between meetings just did not make sense. this was about 2 years ago. i had on my menu of things to try: bj bars, go-go girls, a soapie, street girls and non p4p (this did not happen; my agenda was too ambitious for a 3 day stay). even though i thoroughly enjoyed the bj bar i went to (star something or other) , it is absolutely true that the bj bar did not have the prettiest girls, and that the speed my girls head went up and down was absurdly rapid. but i enjoyed the experience immensely.

in contrast to the raw experience of the bj bar, i found the bbbj in massage parlors to be a more tranquil way to get a blow job.

i remember that there was a street perpendicular to the end of soi cowboy; from my examination of google maps, i think it is called sukhumvit soi 23. if one turned left at the corner or cowboy and 23, a large quantity of massage places were available for one's entertainment. as an aficionado of the bbbj (like a few others on this board) i picked out a pretty young girl who was sitting on the curb by the road, and asked her quietly if she would give me a blow job. the cost was 1000 baht (this was 2 years ago) and she not only stripped for me in private, but gently sucked me for nearly 30 minutes and gave me a massage afterwords. the cost was only 300 baht more than a bj bar, and the selection of girls in these massage places was fantastic: many of them were beautiful and young (some of them were ugly and/or old, but i was under no obligation to choose them). as i was ostensibly paying for a massage by the hour, the girl was not rushed simply to get me to come in order that she could move onto the next customer.

on my last night in bkk, i had to catch a 1 am flight ams. i therefore went down to this area of massage places at 10-11 pm-ish and picked out a sweet, but quite inexperienced beautiful young woman. while she agreed to the bj, it was clearly reluctantly. i discovered that she was a new girl, aged 19, and did not know how to give a bj. i spent some time giving her instructions and finally gave up and fucked her. she was clearly quite relieved when we switched from oral to vaginal, and did not charge me the additional 500 baht for full service (indeed, she was so happy to change from bj to fucking that she almost fucked me without a condom. i had to insist). i gave her the extra cash anyway. my god was this girl beautiful! my plans for my next trip to bkk in june, when i have an entire week, are to go to a massage place everyday for a daily blow job. i think that going before soi cowboy, say at 5 pm before dinner, would be perfect.

NicFrenchy
04-20-12, 14:55
Long story short I met a girl on ThaiFriendly and she wants to meet up with me. I said I'd take her for dinner and some drinks.

She's leaving it up to me where to pick, but did ask that we not go out in Nana, where I'm staying, because all the guys asking to take her home makes her feel uncomfortable (aren't we awful). We get along well and have had some pretty sexy chats online so I'm hoping that she might come back to my hotel at the end of the night.

So my question to you. Where can I take her for a nice meal with a decent bar nearby (where we'll be able to chat so not loud music). She said she's not fussy on food (western, thai, whatever) and it doesn't need to be 5 star but still nice.

Any suggestions please are welcomed.Go to Central World, Emporium, Siam Paragon. Go to Dinner and then a Movie. Then drinks or. Your place

NicFrenchy
04-20-12, 14:57
the real reason not to go to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is because they have some of the ugliest girls in the country. it's hard to find really ugly girls in thailand, but they have managed it well. what a team! the 45 years old lady selling you hot dogs in the street is a supermodel compared to the girls there.damn, too bad wild country is closed! then you would have been dead wrong. anyway, i think many of the shitty outdoor bars of soi 22 have much uglier girls than [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

D Cups
04-20-12, 15:08
Does anyone know if it can be ordered online?

Thanks and happy horndogging.

Bowerboy
04-20-12, 15:13
mate a head job or root is better than a wank, especially in the land on beer, bars and birds. how else does a 3rd world country survive without any tourist $$$ and sperm deposits!yeah normally i know what you mean. but this is why it was just sooooo pathetic. it genuinely was way way worse than a wank. punching yourself in the nuts would be a more sexually pleasing experience than a blowjob at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). and that's not even getting into how ugly they are, i am even giving them the benefit of the doubt on that front and just judging them on their so called craft (or total lack thereof).

Duniawala
04-20-12, 15:51
i haven't been in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in years. in fact the last time i went there was when a friend was visiting from overseas.

the reason i never go there is because they are hopeless at blow jobs. all they do is bounce their head up and down.

this is absolutely pathetic for some where that calls itself a blow job bar. surely you would expect a blow job as the baseline rather than someone just bouncing their head in your lap with their mouth open and you cock inside it!

what a f*king joke that place is!since they haven't had a good teacher, perhaps you could show them how to do it. lead by example, man and not by complaining. you want it done right, you damn well show them how to do it.:-)

Apeman 28
04-21-12, 01:04
Since they haven't had a good teacher, perhaps you could show them how to do it. Lead by example, man and not by complaining. You want it done right, you damn well show them how to do it.:-)Woop woop woop. Good one.

Ivanba
04-21-12, 04:10
I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?The true hiso girls drive Mini's or other European imports.

Amjeck
04-21-12, 04:28
I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?LOS has moved well past 1980's.

SuperRaven
04-21-12, 06:24
I have been reading over the forum for a while before my trip there in the next two weeks. I have a fair idea what I want to cover off, but just interested in other professional member's suggestions or comments.

I am planning to go vist:

Soi Cowboy.

- Baccara, check out the dances or shows, see if can see anything interesting.

- SuzieWong. Check out again

- Rio kiss Deja Vue, avoid this places as per shit reviews.

Afterskool.

- try the BJ in the bar exp.

Nana Plaza.

- Rainbow 1.

Massage.

- Tulip.

- Mango (can not seem to find the location on this one)

If I am off the mark, let me know.

Bond 007
04-21-12, 12:19
I went for a 2 days business cum sex trip to Bangkok last few days and was intro by my friend to this place in rachadapisek. Since it was songkran which is their new year so not much stuff left to choose. On the First day I went to Emxxxxxx place and only have 7 gals to choose and decided to check out the nearby. Finally saw this place call Naxxxxx, went in and to my surprise there had more than 100 gals to choose although it's the songkran festival now. To save my time I did a quick scan and decided to choose this fresh chick. My fr:-

Day 1.

Place:emxxxxx.

Name: tip.

Age:19.

Face:8. 5/10.

Look: CFM uncle.

Service: b2b, BJ, ar, fj, including rub and scratch you during the jacuzzi session.

Time allow: 2 hours (no rush)

Damage: bt2600

Wir: yup as the mandarin speaking out told me they even have model looking which cause bt4000 as they went home for festival.

Room condition:6/10.

Day 2.

Place:VIP

Name:Ning.

Age:18.

Face:9/10.

Look:fresh from oven.

Service: BJ and fj (although no experience but tight) I'm loving it.

Time:2 hours.

Damage:500bt (for massage) + 1500 bt (fj) = 2000.

Wir:yup

Room condition:4/10 the room condition and the environment is a bit down.

Wendella
04-21-12, 12:31
I am planning to go vist:

Nana Plaza.

- Rainbow 1.

If I am off the mark, let me know.You are off the mark by a factor of 3: go upstairs to Rainbow 4 instead.

PinkPearl
04-21-12, 19:04
Since they haven't had a good teacher, perhaps you could show them how to do it. Lead by example, man and not by complaining. You want it done right, you damn well show them how to do it.:-)IME how Bowerboy described the BBBJ is how the vast majority of FL TGs I've met do it, which would be a sample size of a few dozen, perhaps. Many of them may already know other ways to do it, but may find by doing it mechanicly it makes it easier for their mind to think of other things and be somewhere else.

But if they haven't learned other techniques, then by all means teach them. On my latest trip I found that some girls who had been lacking in their skills previously had upped their game in certain regards. Clearly many sex workers have the advantage of having many teachers from all over the world. And that's a good thing. They should be the sex experts of all women. I've certainly learned a few things from them, and taught them a few too.

As to BBBJ techique, I actually prefer the same motion for the most part. Sometimes I'll ask them to go a bit slower or faster, tighter or less tight. Sometimes I like a bit of teasing or build up to the main BBBJ event, or some variety, as in BLS or licking the knob in various ways, or banging it on her tongue, etc, the kind of stuff you see and learn about in porn.

Also I'd have to agree with Bowerboy that a BBBJ can be worse than a do it yourself HJ. IME some things that can ruin an erection, or cause it to never happen, are talking too much, especially mentally retarded or rude comments, having no skills like it's her first time or she's not even trying, stopping every 5 seconds to spit, etc. In these cases it can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off for a few days, in that I'd rather be alone & wank than be with any woman. So some TGs can spoil it for others who are worthy.

Luvpuss
04-21-12, 19:44
i have been reading over the forum for a while before my trip there in the next two weeks. i have a fair idea what i want to cover off, but just interested in other professional member's suggestions or comments.

i am planning to go vist:

soi cowboy.

- baccara, check out the dances or shows, see if can see anything interesting.

- suziewong. check out again

- rio kiss deja vue, avoid this places as per shit reviews.

afterskool.

- try the bj in the bar exp.

nana plaza.

- rainbow 1.

massage.

- tulip.

- mango (can not seem to find the location on this one)

if i am off the mark, let me know.i guess you will be curious about the gogo's. but, i would skip everything you want to do but the mp's. the gogo's are a rip off with mediocore service from my experience. i never go to them anymore.

i would go to biergarten and gulliver's for fl. the grace hotel area after midnight for sw's. hit up [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and dr. bj. also there are many mp's that are not mentioned here that will give great fs at reasonable prices.

Syzygies
04-21-12, 22:13
i guess you will be curious about the gogo's. but, i would skip everything you want to do but the mp's. the gogo's are a rip off with mediocore service from my experience. i never go to them anymore.

i would go to biergarten and gulliver's for fl. the grace hotel area after midnight for sw's. hit up [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and dr. bj. also there are many mp's that are not mentioned here that will give great fs at reasonable prices.i would not take luvpuss's advice if i were you, especially as you probably don't have such a tight budget and are probably not so price oriented. not everyone likes the same stuff. i don't do freelancers much. its hard to find really pretty ones (while they do exist) , and i am happy to pay more for a really hot looking girl. watch out for ladyboy free-lancers too. some of them can look so good, you can be fooled.

i suggest you try every different style so you will be able to decide what you like and what you don't.

mango is very easy to find. enter sukhumvit soi 24. after 50 metres when at emporium, turn left. you can't miss it.

i would recommend trying a soapy like coba cabana, or emmanuelle (with body slide available) , or nataree (body slide) , or annies.

while doing bars, rainbow 4 really has some super lookers. also compare sheba with suzi wong. sister bars but sheba may have better looking girls. both are good nudie bars.

Syzygies
04-21-12, 22:38
Does anyone know if it can be ordered online?

Thanks and happy horndogging.The jelly is really stupid stuff IMHO. 100 mg per pack is far too much for most people, so what are you going to do, try to consume 25 to 50% of it and keep the rest for later to spill and make a mess?

Kamagra pills can easily be broken into pieces and can keep the rest for later more conveniently. They don't take that long to take effect (maybe 20-25 mins unless have just eaten a lot). Even if the jelly acts 10 mins quicker, I don't see the point, unless you don't mind throwing away what is left over.

There are also chewable tablets available which probably taste better but cost more.

I have not ordered online myself, but have heard some say its possible.

However since Kamagra are illegal (against patent) copies, I would be careful about which Country you try it from.

This is a Thai forum and its real easy to buy in many Sukhumvit pharmacies, especially small ones in the Sois. When in Thailand just stock up and hope you don't get caught in customs.

Cialis or Apcalis is supposed to work for a much longer time period (up to 48 hours verses 4 hours) but is not as strong in effect as Kamagra, so I reckon its not worth bothering with.

I find I don't need any Kamagra when fucking girls I know well, when everything is nice easy and relaxed, but Kamagra can certainly assist with a non-relaxed situation, e. G. The girl is scared of your big dick and because she doesn't know you well yet, and so she doesn't exactly open the legs wide, relaxed, and invitingly, or when girls fuss and want to change condoms part way through. Anyway you can understand that there are various mood dampeners that Kamagra can help overcome. It doesn't counteract too much alcohol very well though.

Etaoin2003
04-21-12, 22:44
Emxxxxxx Naxxxxx CFM uncle fresh from oven.Message decoded and understood. Q has an interesting wristwatch for you. Don't break it.

Syzygies
04-21-12, 22:50
yeah normally i know what you mean. but this is why it was just sooooo pathetic. it genuinely was way way worse than a wank.everyone (almost) knows that all places have their good girls and their crap (unskillful newbies maybe) girls. its a mixed bag. you roll the dice and if you get lucky, you get a fantastic bj. when you get a crap girl, put it down to experience, and quickly find a replacement. i sure that not all [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) girls give bad bj. they would go out of business very quick if that were true.

i recall going there for a bj when i had only 20-30 mins away from the gf, and she was having her period. i have had a rather ordinary to boring one and also had good ones including full sex.

Syzygies
04-21-12, 22:57
Message decoded and understood. Q has an interesting wristwatch for you. Don't break it.What about the bit starting with "Wir:"? That was just plain jumblish to me (and my stuff is only "near English"). Obviously not the British Bond or was he a victim of the auto spelling-correcter having a virus in the works? ;) Perhaps he was trying to type his message on the special watch-internet-phone.

Luvpuss
04-21-12, 23:10
I would not take Luvpuss's advice if I were you, especially as you probably don't have such a tight budget and are probably not so price oriented. Not everyone likes the same stuff. I don't do freelancers much. Its hard to find really pretty ones (while they do exist) , and I am happy to pay more for a really hot looking girl. Watch out for ladyboy free-lancers too. Some of them can look so good, you can be fooled.

I suggest you try every different style so you will be able to decide what you like and what you don't.

Mango is very easy to find. Enter Sukhumvit Soi 24. After 50 metres when at Emporium, turn left. You can't miss it.

I would recommend trying a Soapy like Coba Cabana, or Emmanuelle (with body slide available) , or Nataree (body slide) , or Annies.

While doing bars, Rainbow 4 really has some super lookers. Also compare Sheba with Suzi Wong. Sister bars but Sheba may have better looking girls. Both are good nudie bars.That is because you really have no idea what you are doing. Don't you know how to figure out if it is a LB??

The Gogo's are commercial establishments set up for the inexperienced monger. That is why they are full of Japanese and Korean business men and tourists who have no idea where to find the best girls. Pretty lame tourist traps really.

It is not a price issue. It is quailty of service.

Much better options for service and attitude and looks away from those places.

Syzygies
04-21-12, 23:20
That is because you really have no idea what you are doing. Don't you know how to figure out if it is a LB?Just a friendly warning for inexperienced newbies.
Yes we understand you don't like gogo bars. I still think every tourist wants to have a look so they will know what it is about. Then can decide its total shit or otherwise.
I have been coming to Thailand for 20 years and speak Thai very well. Despite that I still like to look at girls with great bodies dancing nude occasionally. Its a mental abberation. If I was on your budget, I wouldn't. No its not just for Japanese. I know a Farang guy who has lived in BKK for over 20 years and he still goes to gogo bars. Must have the same sickness as me but worse. He often doesn't take a girl away but still likes to drink and look. I don't find that gogo girls have bad attitude, assuming a wise choice. I guess what you mean by "bad attitude" is unwillingness to go for your price.

I don't have the time or patience to go looking for top free-lancers any more and get bored at Biergarten very quickly by the lack of lookers. Each to their own preference. No doubt there are better places but not all of us have the time available to research it (my leave pass from GF is usually not that long). I rarely go to a BJ bar unless desperate for a quickie, since they don't exactly have any lookers either.

For me, its all about finding hot girls, wherever they can be found. So try everything, I say.

Dr BJ
04-22-12, 13:16
Hi all.

I went to Baccara on Saturday night just before 12 and was very surprised to be refused entry until I had bought a drink at the outside bar. I was there on a Thursday night previously and did not receive the same reception. My protestation that there may not be any seats (Saturday night is usually busy there) and my assurances that I would buy a drink upstairs made no difference. I really like Baccara and will go back but did not appreciate being treated like that.

Opebo
04-22-12, 16:27
i was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. i thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad pitt, huge jackman, and and tom cruise. perhaps the thai tourist industry has decieved us?

only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang atm, t.h. the vast majority of thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite déclassé.


[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s...

the reason i never go there is because they are hopeless at blow jobs. all they do is bounce their head up and down and try and make you cum as quickly as possible using their mouth as a stimulant! that is not a blowjob.

i find it absolutely pathetic that none of the girls in a "blow job" bar knows how to give a blow job! amazing thailand.


bowerboy you could not be more right! [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is one of the worst, but it is true that a good blow job is incredibly rare in thailand. you get a far better blow job (and for about the same price) from any streetwalker back in the bad place. the only place i like to go to bjs in thailand is star of light in patpong - it is still not as good as an 'american girl' blow job, but much better than places like [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

i think the reason thai girls are so bad at bjs is they absolutely hate giving them - i think many western prostitutes view the bj as much preferable to give rather than regular sex, while thai working girls would always rather be rogered than suck the penis. that and i think thai girls typically have little or no understanding of the western male's sexual needs - they think we are like thai men who require virtually nothing to cum. (in fact thai men prefer their service providers to be good at pretending not to be experienced, not to be good at sex).

Kaintuck
04-22-12, 18:19
Opebo,

The king's eldest daughter, Princess Ubolratana, married an American while attending MIT. Plus many thousand more upscale Siamese from the time of King Chulalongkorn onward.

Jayf1970
04-22-12, 18:40
I think the reason Thai girls are so bad at BJs is they absolutely hate giving them - I think many Western prostitutes view the BJ as much preferable to give rather than regular sex, while Thai working girls would always rather be rogered than suck the penis. That and I think Thai girls typically have little or no understanding of the Western male's sexual needs - they think we are like Thai men who require virtually nothing to cum. (in fact Thai men prefer their service providers to be good at pretending not to be experienced, not to be good at sex).Thats insightful. Totally agree. I enjoyed BKK when I was an amateur monger, but no longer do so for this exact reason.

There is another reason, which I am hoping some of you can help mitigate. I like my women to have some meat on the bone and BKK / Thailand simply doesn't have many full figured beauties with nice round asses that I crave. Having said that, I did have the pleasure of meeting a few over the years. My question is can you recommend any full figured ladies that give decent service? Kate at Mango seems to fit the bill. Any others you can recommend?

Thanks in advance.

Amjeck
04-22-12, 19:00
Opebo,

The king's eldest daughter, Princess Ubolratana, married an American while attending MIT. Plus many thousand more upscale Siamese from the time of King Chulalongkorn onward.Opebo says:

"Only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang ATM"

He's talking about now, not decades ago.

Most of the thai girls you see now days with farang are low level throw backs. It's all economics really. If western currencies tripled overnight and Asian currencies crashed, then farang would be the "in" thing again.

Crazy4Thai
04-23-12, 01:56
Thats insightful. Totally agree. I enjoyed BKK when I was an amateur monger, but no longer do so for this exact reason.

There is another reason, which I am hoping some of you can help mitigate. I like my women to have some meat on the bone and BKK / Thailand simply doesn't have many full figured beauties with nice round asses that I crave. Having said that, I did have the pleasure of meeting a few over the years. My question is can you recommend any full figured ladies that give decent service? Kate at Mango seems to fit the bill. Any others you can recommend?

Thanks in advance.I'd recommend Pookie working at the Hillary Bar. When I saw her she was standing at a table with a small party going on. Her ass is very nice and she turned to me and asked if I wanted to play pool or play her. Turns out she works there. She is not jaded and provided a very good time for 2, 000 LT.

C4T

Dash Riprock
04-23-12, 03:12
Opebo says:

"Only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang ATM"

He's talking about now, not decades ago.

Most of the thai girls you see now days with farang are low level throw backs. It's all economics really. If western currencies tripled overnight and Asian currencies crashed, then farang would be the "in" thing again.The farang wasn't really "in" back then either. You'll note the other part of the story was omitted: where a particular individual who is HIGHLY regarded in this country stripped his daughter of her title and unofficially exiled her to the US because she decided to do the local equivalent (in many social circles) of 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner' mentioned in this thread.

There are certainly exceptions of course, but those are along the lines of Obama becoming president. It certainly doesn't mean you can say something like 'see, blacks are doing great in America! ' (conveniently ignoring prison, welfare, unemployment, unwed mothers, etc. Figures). A farang and Thai couple where both met in college in the US, or who are both executives at the same multinational, roughly the same age, and so forth is NOT quite 'the same' as a the multitude of couples where the age difference is 20+ years, one party is relatively educated (guess which) and the other is likely first generation off the farm with a 3rd grade equivalent education. That latter couple can't really look to the former couple and say, 'see Wheezy, we're moving on up. '

AssLover945
04-23-12, 04:31
Thats insightful. Totally agree. I enjoyed BKK when I was an amateur monger, but no longer do so for this exact reason.

There is another reason, which I am hoping some of you can help mitigate. I like my women to have some meat on the bone and BKK / Thailand simply doesn't have many full figured beauties with nice round asses that I crave. Having said that, I did have the pleasure of meeting a few over the years. My question is can you recommend any full figured ladies that give decent service? Kate at Mango seems to fit the bill. Any others you can recommend?

Thanks in advance.I can't agree more, I love full figured girls, with round asses and get very few of them, most girls here are gazelle type, which I believe the mongers too prefer.

Any information about full figured girls will be welcome.

I wanted to start a thread especially for that, but as soon as I proposed, one monger objected to it, so I didn't start a thread.

Sxxxx
04-23-12, 05:26
Yeah, but if you want to talk about girls (females) , it's Filipinas.Of course, thats what I was alluding to.

Sxxxx
04-23-12, 06:42
Every girl I posted here and in the photo gallery is better looking than most or all in the photo gallery. I think you and gentleboner need to get together in the Nana parking lot. I think you can find a girl that will give you a 2 for 1 special since you probably can't afford much else. LOLYes, but they are tourist photo's. Anyone of us can do that. No indication they ever made it to your bedroom, plus you repeat same photo's of same girls too much.

Tony Hoeprano
04-23-12, 06:43
Only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang ATM, T.H. The vast majority of Thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. Thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite déclassé.Not sure I agree with the lowest of lower class. Maybe the lowest class have free sex with taxi drivers LOL. One cannot fault the Thais for forming negative opinions of the falang. Face it, its not like the cream of society are pulling down their britches at BJ bars.

Obese german sex toursts, smelly backpackers, criminal types, and creepy ESL teachers give the falang bad name! It's like Ringling Bros Circus coming into town, but they get free admission at the gate.

Anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. Yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.

Western787
04-23-12, 10:59
Not sure I agree with the lowest of lower class. Maybe the lowest class have free sex with taxi drivers LOL. One cannot fault the Thais for forming negative opinions of the falang. Face it, its not like the cream of society are pulling down their britches at BJ bars.

Obese german sex toursts, smelly backpackers, criminal types, and creepy ESL teachers give the falang bad name! It's like Ringling Bros Circus coming into town, but they get free admission at the gate.

Anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. Yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.LOL, and of course those classy russians in Pattaya. I'm afraid the typical farang stereotype will be the norm for many years. Now offsetting this to a small degree, they do encounter ocassional gentlemen farang like the Global Nanpa guy, a german excutive of some type, who is doing alot of video shooting, including a very recent high definition exceptionally well done video at Club Sherbert over in Ekamai. That guy really knows how to charm Thai women to get the videos he wants. I guess the dollars he's throwing around do not hurt either.

FlyingVisitor
04-23-12, 11:02
[quote=opebo; 1272210]only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang atm, t. h. the vast majority of thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite theéclassé.

[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is one of the worst, but it is true that a good blow job is incredibly rare in thailand. the only place to get bjs in thailand is star of light in patpong. it is still not as good as an 'american girl' blow job, but much better than places like [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

right, opebo,

this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.

i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?

regards.

fv

PinkPearl
04-23-12, 13:28
Anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. Yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.IMO that's s longshot, even if she lives, manages to be continuously relected, and all of the following don't occur again:

Sieges of airports and cities.

Half the country being underwater.

Coups, bombings & assassination attempts.

Hysterical mass political riots.

Tsunamis {e. G. Phuket, Japan)

War in the South.

Thaksin living in LOS.

Worldwide economic decline.

General ineptitude.

Porn sessions in parliament

Big Joe 11
04-23-12, 16:23
I heard the girls there are old and ugly.

Bartchamdo
04-23-12, 16:45
this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.

i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?i don't see why it's important whether or not you're an exhibitionist. are you suggesting that if you're not willing to show the entire bar your sex acts that you don't deserve to have fun? exhibitionist or not. either way is okay. it's a personal choice. the important part is how much you enjoy the bj. i've had good experiences with sol and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in the past.

today i decided to visit a bj bar. i called to make a reservation for dr. bj at 4pm. it was going to be my first session ever. i showed up early and was told that my girl called in sick. how inconvenient! i wasn't really enjoying soi 7/1 or dr. bj with its weird setup. why do they put the lineup on the upper level? what's with the 2 different prices for service, and why weren't they clearly displayed in the lineup? why did the host expect me to pick some total stranger after i spent my time reading their website carefully and making an appointment?

instead of staying i decided to try [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, which is more of a "sure thing" in my mind. my regular girl at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s is on the night shift and starts at 4pm. luckily even though i arrived at 3:45 she was there. i had a fantastic session as usual. i'd gladly repeat. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s does have some talented staff. i don't spend any time at all wondering why it's a popular spot.

Goatboy55
04-24-12, 08:12
I popped in and noticed Rabbit has returned. If you enjoyed rubbing your bell end against her tonsils in the past, you can now repeat.

Big Joe 11
04-24-12, 10:41
I hear the same same. Some of the girls sit outside and they are as you describe.I will go to check it out now. If the girls are too horrible then I am heading to Annie.

Dash Riprock
04-24-12, 11:05
It's all relative. The girls at Eden are indeed older and less attractive. Not to mention the weft of (perhaps somewhat imagined knowing what goes on there) excrement that one smells when the door opens there. Annie's, Darling, a bit younger perhaps, but also pretty darn ugly. OMMV.

Opebo
04-24-12, 11:41
anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.the demise of our fun will not be because of any 'anti-poverty' efforts of the current regime, but primarily due to the enormous decline in the thai birthrate. there simply aren't very many young people to replenish positions which (in theory) require a modicum of attractiveness, and after all, they haven't been driven to it by desperate poverty as such for a decade or more. its just easy, big money.

if there is any regime-effect it will be the ever-increasing prudery and social control which is brought on by democracy. 'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.

Golfinho
04-24-12, 12:19
Obese german sex toursts, smelly backpackers, criminal types, and creepy ESL teachers give the falang bad name! It's like Ringling Bros Circus coming into town, but they get free admission at the gate.Like these are what you see skulking lower Sukh? Not hardly.

Reality is dessicated old, hanging-gut distended, incipient geriatrics on barstools draining pints into heads big as watermelons; this is what you see at Nana, they're soapie and oily patrons. The kind of guys who show up when you call a number in the yellow pages to have something unclogged or trash hauled away. Lifelong proles who had the fortune to be born into countries with a social welfare system. How could any Thai above subsistence poverty be caught dead on the arm of one of these? No offense to anyone like this living out the string in Bangkok, but keep it real

Big Joe 11
04-24-12, 16:09
Just went there. The girls were looks were pretty lame but I did them anyway.

HotForever
04-24-12, 19:08
Bangkok is becoming boring, losing its "edge," and is just like most other major cities now, with the noted exception that the value for money here is now quite poor and NO that is not a cheap charlie statement as I think that Singapore is a great city where everything works, you can make good money, and things are of quality.You do not know, what you are asking for.

The real name is Singa-bore, boring. Expensive, lousy service, drinks watered down, average restaurants.

Perhaps we could change jobs? You come to Singapore, I go to Bangkok.

Syzygies
04-24-12, 21:38
[quote=opebo; 1272210]this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.

i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?i don't claim to prefer [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and have tried both places. it purely depends on which girl you get.

sometimes the choice of venue comes down to which one will take less than 5 mins to get to, when time is really short for getting a quick bj.

yes i have had sex in the public bar, but it is not a requirement to be public to enjoy a blowjob by any means. that would be a mental sickness.

Syzygies
04-24-12, 21:40
I can't agree more, I love full figured girls, with round asses and get very few of them, most girls here are gazelle type, which I believe the mongers too prefer.

Any information about full figured girls will be welcome.

I wanted to start a thread especially for that, but as soon as I proposed, one monger objected to it, so I didn't start a thread.She Annies thread for the girl with super F cups. Can't comment on the ass. I prefer Apple like ass with gap between the upper thighs.

HotShaneHot
04-24-12, 22:36
[quote=opebo; 1272210]only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang atm, t. h. the vast majority of thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite theéclassé.

[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is one of the worst, but it is true that a good blow job is incredibly rare in thailand. the only place to get bjs in thailand is star of light in patpong. it is still not as good as an 'american girl' blow job, but much better than places like [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

right, opebo,

this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.

i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?

regards.

fvhi,

i love a good bj i have been [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s lots an a open bj bar but never been to sol can you tell me where it is?

how to find it?

what soi it on all what it near.

an how much it cost $

what time it open.

thanks

Etaoin2003
04-25-12, 00:11
Reality is dessicated old, hanging-gut distended, incipient geriatrics on barstools draining pints into heads big as watermelonsHey! That's enough of reality, OK? Reality sucks.

NicFrenchy
04-25-12, 02:10
I think the reason Thai girls are so bad at BJs is they absolutely hate giving them - I think many Western prostitutes view the BJ as much preferable to give rather than regular sex, while Thai working girls would always rather be rogered than suck the penis. That and I think Thai girls typically have little or no understanding of the Western male's sexual needs - they think we are like Thai men who require virtually nothing to cum. (in fact Thai men prefer their service providers to be good at pretending not to be experienced, not to be good at sex).I kinda disagree with parts of what you say just because from my own experience, I got a different feeling. Let me explain.

During the last couple years I stayed away from P4P and went only with Regular thai ladies (your run of the mil office worker if you will) and I can attest to one thing: They LOVE having a cock in their mouth. They love to play with it, kiss it, suck it. They (again, this is only my experience) understood the pleasure it brings to a guy and how they can be "in control" just by toying with it, Hand or Mouth.

I can also tell you that ALL non P4P ladies did not bat an eye when I "came" inside their mouths. Some would finish sucking and RUN to the bathroom to spit, some would swallow the whole load and refer to it as "Protein".

As for the rest, I can tell you, you are dead-on! EVERY Thai girl I have been with started to open up about their Thai Boyfriends that always want to fuck on the bed (I like to Vary) and only is interested in Cumming as fast as possible. No Foreplay, No care for the woman's orgasm.

I have been very successful in hooking up with girls and one thing I learned, they LOVE to have their pussies Licked. One thing Thai Guys don't do.

Goatscrot
04-25-12, 03:09
You do not know, what you are asking for.

The real name is Singa-bore, boring. Expensive, lousy service, drinks watered down, average restaurants.

Perhaps we could change jobs? You come to Singapore, I go to Bangkok.And you have Batam and the other wh (*e islands just a hop away. Michelangelo's is one of my favorite Italian restaurants in Asia.

Goatscrot
04-25-12, 03:11
the demise of our fun will not be because of any 'anti-poverty' efforts of the current regime, but primarily due to the enormous decline in the thai birthrate. there simply aren't very many young people to replenish positions which (in theory) require a modicum of attractiveness, and after all, they haven't been driven to it by desperate poverty as such for a decade or more. its just easy, big money.

if there is any regime-effect it will be the ever-increasing prudery and social control which is brought on by democracy. 'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.the population pyramid inverted here in 97. you are correct.

Crocodilexp
04-25-12, 04:41
'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.sorry for going off-topic, but that's the most brilliant quote i heard in a decade. where did it come from, who wrote that?

sums up my feelings about living in thailand. we farang have absolutely zero say about running the thai society (to the point that even well-meaning, qualified advice is unwelcome) , yet we are more free here than back home (where we do have a stake and a voice).

Big Joe 11
04-25-12, 04:42
I never done this. My third pop came when I asked for oil rub in my room and next thing you know I paid 1k Baht for a HJ.

I actually just want to eat and get a traditional thai massage until tonight.

Crocodilexp
04-25-12, 04:53
[quote=flyingvisitor; 1272534]i love a good bj i have been [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s lots an a open bj bar but never been to sol can you tell me where it is?patpong soi ii, about 50 m from foodland (going towards surawong road). the sol door is in the back row, obscured by the beer bar in front. always a few girls sitting and eating in front. price is 700 baht last time i was there, might have gone up in the meantime. open all day, whether from 10 am or noon i'm not sure, but certainly suitable for a daytime pop.

sol is way better than [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) imo, but certainly a niche place, as the works are done in public and it doesn't have private booths (unless you count the toilet).

Tony Hoeprano
04-25-12, 13:58
LOL, and of course those classy russians in Pattaya. I'm afraid the typical farang stereotype will be the norm for many years. Now offsetting this to a small degree, they do encounter ocassional gentlemen farang like the Global Nanpa guy, a german excutive of some type, who is doing alot of video shooting, including a very recent high definition exceptionally well done video at Club Sherbert over in Ekamai. That guy really knows how to charm Thai women to get the videos he wants. I guess the dollars he's throwing around do not hurt either.I'm familiar with the Global Nanpa dude's videos. He's more a rich and extremely smart dude than a true charmer. I believe he graduated at MIT. However, some of his videos are painful to watch, sometimes you can really tell the girls he's with aren't into him. Check out his Maiake g-club videos, those are some smokin hot girls!

Papae Noel
04-25-12, 21:28
Just planning to get a haircut and nails done. I absolutely never would do this anywhere back in my country, but watching a beautiful Thai or asian girl do my nails might be fun. I recall a place near Soi 2, and it was right on Sukhumvit Road, but when I went by a few months ago, it looked like the place was gone, due to new building construction I believe.

The girl that does my hair doesn't have to be a beauty, but I definitely want some nice girls doing my nails.

Sorry if I chose the wrong section of this forum.

Lord Farquard
04-25-12, 23:08
Just planning to get a haircut and nails done. I absolutely never would do this anywhere back in my country, but watching a beautiful Thai or asian girl do my nails might be fun. I recall a place near Soi 2, and it was right on Sukhumvit Road, but when I went by a few months ago, it looked like the place was gone, due to new building construction I believe.

The girl that does my hair doesn't have to be a beauty, but I definitely want some nice girls doing my nails.

Sorry if I chose the wrong section of this forum.Try August Salon. 109 Suk. In between Soi 5 and 7. I have been getting my haircut there for 10 years, and they do a good job. There is an "older" gal Tem that gives an excellent haircut. The younger set do the mani / pedis. Tell them that "KFC" sent you over.

Papae Noel
04-26-12, 00:29
Try August Salon. 109 Suk. In between Soi 5 and 7. I have been getting my haircut there for 10 years, and they do a good job. There is an "older" gal Tem that gives an excellent haircut. The younger set do the mani / pedis. Tell them that "KFC" sent you over.Thanks very much. I hope I will have some more replies, maybe I can try one different salon every 2 weeks.

Is August Salon right on Sukhumvit road? I am usually going by Soi 7 and Soi 7/1 (Coffee World / Subway) , as I try to stop by Magic Table once in a while.

Lord Farquard
04-26-12, 00:40
Thanks very much. I hope I will have some more replies, maybe I can try one different salon every 2 weeks.

Is August Salon right on Sukhumvit road? I am usually going by Soi 7 and Soi 7/1 (Coffee World / Subway) , as I try to stop by Magic Table once in a while.Walk in the direction of Soi 5 on Suk, you will find the salon about 40 meters on your right.

BionicMan
04-26-12, 06:39
Try August Salon. 109 Suk. In between Soi 5 and 7. I have been getting my haircut there for 10 years, and they do a good job. There is an "older" gal Tem that gives an excellent haircut. The younger set do the mani / pedis. Tell them that "KFC" sent you over.That's my favourite too. Good attentive service. They do also foot massages and I have seen a lot of guys getting face treatments. Serves both men and women. 800b will get you haircut and mani / pedi services.

BionicMan
04-26-12, 06:41
Walk in the direction of Soi 5 on Suk, you will find the salon about 40 meters on your right.The guy has to be aware that shortly before August, coming from Soi 2, there is another salon attended by LB's, very obvious looking. Nothing wrong with it, but some guy might feak out. Never tried, BTW.

Western787
04-26-12, 12:45
I'm familiar with the Global Nanpa dude's videos. He's more a rich and extremely smart dude than a true charmer. I believe he graduated at MIT. However, some of his videos are painful to watch, sometimes you can really tell the girls he's with aren't into him. Check out his Maiake g-club videos, those are some smokin hot girls!Yes, the Maiake video is excellent and I see it was linked in here a month of two back. The new Sherbert video (below) is also excellent, with great house music and a full 10 minutes in 1080 HD. The girls as far as I can tell seem to act all giddy around him most of the time. Probably a little bit of charm and a lot of cash flying around, but in any case he's presenting a postive image for Farangs. The guy definitely spends as he will rent out penthouse level suites in top hotels, in part just to put them on his site. Seems like he gets permission or approval for some of his filming, and I believe tries for example to keep the camera off customers in G clubs, so I guess the clubs know he's trustworthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9UoYolu-g

Crazy4Thai
04-26-12, 14:43
Thanks very much. I hope I will have some more replies, maybe I can try one different salon every 2 weeks.

Is August Salon right on Sukhumvit road? I am usually going by Soi 7 and Soi 7/1 (Coffee World / Subway) , as I try to stop by Magic Table once in a while.Could you give us a report on Magic Table?

I've been past it many times and maybe I'm missing something good.

On the same soi, try Loong at Plame Massage. About 30 years old or so and maybe would be a star at Mango's or similar famous place.

Tell her that guy from Ranong sent you. I get her for an hour at 1200 tip and 400 massage fee. She'll get right to it if you tell her what you want.

C4T

Papae Noel
04-26-12, 15:20
Hey C4t,

Magic Table is NOT a massage place, although by the name it might seem like it is. Go check it out. It's very relaxed. Lots of room inside, as well as outside, with a pool table. Only place like it on Soi 7/1. I'm not sure, but I believe that when you are sitting next to "Table" where girls dance, you can look up and see underneath = Magic. Yes there is also a VIP room.

It is located right next door to Dr BJ (have not been in).

Any more recommendations for hair salons?

Duniawala
04-26-12, 16:22
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Any more recommendations for hair salons?Soi 15. It is on your left hand side (about 150 feet) as you enter the Soi. They also have foot massage next door by the same owner. Been using them for many years.

Mackin
04-26-12, 16:44
Stopped by there last December. Not much in the talent at that time, but times change, Yes they do forget to put their panties on when they go to work. Seats are lower than the stages so the view can be fun and most interesting. Sadly, never have I partaken in the offerings.

Where in BKK is this place sherbet? Or did I miss that part?

Sxxxx
04-26-12, 23:40
Yes, the Maiake video is excellent and I see it was linked in here a month of two back. The new Sherbert video (below) is also excellent, with great house music and a full 10 minutes in 1080 HD. The girls as far as I can tell seem to act all giddy around him most of the time. Probably a little bit of charm and a lot of cash flying around, but in any case he's presenting a postive image for Farangs. The guy definitely spends as he will rent out penthouse level suites in top hotels, in part just to put them on his site. Seems like he gets permission or approval for some of his filming, and I believe tries for example to keep the camera off customers in G clubs, so I guess the clubs know he's trustworthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9UoYolu-gGee, it doesn't take much to please you. Video is too dark, underexposed, too repetitive, girls look constipated, many none better than attractive girls at gogo bars. After 3 mins I could only think of one word, boring, and switched off. You must be new to the scene, move around, more exciting stuff than that can be found in Thailand, I assure you. Video guy needs to move around too, and capture more exciting stuff. Think both he and you are newbies, especially if as you suggested, he is paying big money to video that. Needs a decent camera that can capture images in low light too, by the way. Anyway, thanks, but no thanks, certainly not excellent.

Tony Hoeprano
04-27-12, 05:50
What gets me is this global nanpa guy stays at 5 star hotels and resorts, hits the g clubs and hangs with sexy gclub / hiso girls, eats at expensive restaurants, and then shoots video in a dump like Climax where ugly girls are a dime a dozen!

ChinaReise2012
04-27-12, 06:48
Hi guys,

I stayed in China for a while.

Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.

I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.

Sometimes cause I know Chinese.

So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST.

Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.

Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT.

Where to go? Any tips?

1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this?

Thank you.

Ivanba
04-27-12, 07:10
What gets me is this global nanpa guy stays at 5 star hotels and resorts, hits the g clubs and hangs with sexy gclub / hiso girls, eats at expensive restaurants, and then shoots video in a dump like Climax where ugly girls are a dime a dozen!The videos aren't that great. Dark, no real editing, bad sound, etc. I've not been to a G-club, but from what I can see in those videos, I've seen ladies that look just as good or better at Bed. And I bet Bed is more economical too.

LuvnLatinas
04-27-12, 09:04
Anyone try the high end MP's like Emmauelle or others on Thai Massage Models? Interested if the girls are remotely close to their pics.

Sxxxx
04-27-12, 10:16
What gets me is this global nanpa guy stays at 5 star hotels and resorts, hits the g clubs and hangs with sexy gclub / hiso girls, eats at expensive restaurants, and then shoots video in a dump like Climax where ugly girls are a dime a dozen!He comes across as en excited newbie. Don't worry, he will do his money and fizzle out. Maybe Climax is an indication his money is already running out.

Next vid, Chinatown LOL

Bartchamdo
04-27-12, 12:21
Could you give us a report on Magic Table?I read online that their gimmick was their mirror tables, so that you could easily look up the skirt of the dancing girl. I stopped by there a few weeks ago for a beer, and found the truth was a little different.

Yes, there are mirror tables, but they are so worn and dinged up that you can't actually see any reflection. Fortunately the girls are well above you, so you just need to look upwards for your view. When I dropped by the dancing was a bit more enthusiastic and interesting than most Nana places I've ever been to. Plus one of the ladies dancing was gorgeous! Maybe an 8. MT has potential.

Western787
04-27-12, 12:42
The videos aren't that great. Dark, no real editing, bad sound, etc. I've not been to a G-club, but from what I can see in those videos, I've seen ladies that look just as good or better at Bed. And I bet Bed is more economical too.As far as I can tell there are very few good quality HD videos of the upscale G clubs in Bangkok nor even many decent regular videos. G clubs must simply value their customer base too much to risk exposure on the internet. I thought the Maiake video was excellent as it shot the video as if one were entering the club and had some great shots of the dancers, and of course he must have had permission. As for Sherbert, the sound quality was quite good, and I like House Music especially the first 5 minutes. To me the girls looked pretty hot, especially the one on the extreme right side of the stage, who only briefly appears within camera view 1 or 2 times for a second or two. As for the lack of videos, for example the only videos of Pegasus I've seen are basically a confused mess, obviously shot in stealth. Same with the few I've seen on other clubs.

Sky Ryder
04-27-12, 12:56
The videos aren't that great. Dark, no real editing, bad sound, etc. I've not been to a G-club, but from what I can see in those videos, I've seen ladies that look just as good or better at Bed. And I bet Bed is more economical too.A while back I posted about a night I had in one of the "videoed" G clubs. I will tell you that at least on that night, the place was full of some of the most attractive womenI have seen anywhere and they were a LOT of fun, really great attitudes as well. Now the down side was that there was not an expectation that they would necessarily go home with you. In fact I only saw one or two guys leave with girls. Having said that it was one of the most enjoyable evenings of entertainment I have ever had. Anywhere.

That was only my experience, but there were four of us there that night and we found ourselves the rest of the trip looking for go go bar girls that we thought could possibly work in the G club we went to that night. To be honest we didn't find many. As I said, it was one night, and one guy's opinion, but there you have it.

Western787
04-27-12, 12:59
Just to be clear, its at 4:39 on the video that I see what I consider to be two very hot dancers, the one on the extreme right side and the dancer third closest to the right side. I'm not saying all the other girls are stunners, but I did see at least 6 or 8 others that I might describe that way.

Member #4698
04-27-12, 13:41
Sky and Western are right. Certain G-Clubs, Maiake for one, have girls on the highest rung of the BKK pussy ladder. In my experience, only a couple of girls in Rainbow 4 and a few girls in the best high end soapies (example La Belle) can match the really pretty G-Club girls in looks. On the social scale, if that is of any importance to you, I think the G-Club girls are higher up (better educated and more financially secure) so they have more to offer personality wise. Shagging performance is independent of all this and depends on the particular girl no matter where you find her. There are great G-Club lovers and not so great ones like everywhere else. The downside of hunting in G-Clubs is price of course and the fact that there are no guarantees. But, if your game is on, you will most likely be able to connect with a G-Club girl and she will give you her phone number. The rest is up to you. This venue is obviously not for everybody.

Duniawala
04-27-12, 17:07
Hi guys,

I stayed in China for a while.

Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.

I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.

Sometimes cause I know Chinese.

So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST.

Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.

Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT.

Where to go? Any tips?

1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this?

Thank you.Sorry, looks like you are too cheap to even spend sometime RTF (Read the fucking forum). On that note, I am too cheap to give you the info.

Romannico
04-27-12, 19:37
ok, so i'm back in bkk after a much too long 10 months wait, and of course i'm here to share some experiences.

i'm only been here for a day (and night) , so this is how far i went in the meantime.

my plane landed at noon, and as soon as i registered at my hotel (phachara suites. one bedroom executive expensive (3200 bath a night) but worth it and walking distance to nana) , i went to annie's for a relaxing soapie.

took number 23, that i would recommend to anyone not very familiar with soapies, as i am (had 2 in the past, one at annie's, one at nataree, that were miles away from the quality 23 provided). she's got a great technique, and will walk you through the entire experience in a great way, especially if you don't really know what you're doing. great bath (1 bbbj pop) , than a wet body slide with some more bbbj, off to the bed for one of the best oily massages i've gotten (period! even compared to "professional" massage places) and a good fuck helped by and amaziingly tight pussy. i'm not extremely used to mongering, and she made me feel comfortable at all times. she's "only" a 7 (small titts. 32. looks 25, of course) , but i would definetly recommend her.

after a short nap, off to soy cowbow (nothing special) and then nana. rainbow 4 definetly has the best looking girls, but spanky's and mandarin have the ones that appear to have the most fun on stage, which is important to me. i would tend to avoid all the ground floor bars, that are very pushy, and rather concentrate on the 1st level and some bars on the 2nd.

after almost taking a girl at mandarin (but somehow, the fact that they don't dance topless or naked made me not to) , i left for climax, which was packed and fun, but felt way too drunk and went home, talking a sw along, which i met right in front of my hotel. huge natural breast, a littly saggy but who care at 5am, right? dfk, bbbj, some positions but mostly titty fuck and cob. damage 1000 baths, which made her happy.

next morning (today) , after a few hours at the hotel pool, i decided to try dr bj: big disapointement. i've been to bj bars before ([CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, a couple of times) and i thought this new venue would upgrade the experience. big mistake. of the 15 girls available, the best looking one was a 5, with lots of 2 and 3s among the crowd. maybe i was there at a bad time, but if 8pm on a friday night is a bad time, i don't know what a good time would be. decided to give it a try anyway, and the bj was very average; nothing i haven't experienced before, nothing a girl not specialised in bj couldn't do. won't go back again, for sure.

i'm off to pattaya in a couple of days, hopefully i'll have more interesting things to write about!

Fon Tok
04-27-12, 20:04
Hi guys, I stayed in China for a while. Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days. I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.

Sometimes cause I know Chinese. So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST. Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.

Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT. Where to go? Any tips? 1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this? Thank you.You can probably find beer bar girls that will go LT for that. Patpong 2, & Sukhumvit Soi 22 come to mind.

BionicMan
04-27-12, 21:37
Hi guys,

I stayed in China for a while.

Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.

I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.

1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this?

Thank you.What is your budget for airfare, food and accomoodation?

Member #4643
04-27-12, 22:01
Does anyone care to share contact information on a semi-pro or an independent and very GFE pro in BKK? I am looking for someone who might want to travel with me and is fun to be with. Bisexual would be preferred, as I would like to do some mongering in BKK as well. I would, of course, contact her before I go to BKK to make certain we are compatible so no one should feel that I would hold them responsible if things don't go well. Please pm me.

In return, I have a few real GFE semi-pros in Rio to whom I could introduce you, although I know this is of limited value to most of the guys on the BKK board. They are all young (although quite legal), beautiful and bi, just the way I like them!

Syzygies
04-27-12, 23:45
Does anyone care to share contact information on a semi-pro or an independent and very GFE pro in BKK? I am looking for someone who might want to travel with me and is fun to be with. Bisexual would be preferred, as I would like to do some mongering in BKK as well. I would, of course, contact her before I go to BKK to make certain we are compatible so no one should feel that I would hold them responsible if things don't go well. Please pm me.You know what its about. Go find your own. We aren't match makers here. Know one knows who will suit you or even if you are a psycho case (purely hypothetical so not implying nything about your character at all).

Syzygies
04-27-12, 23:48
Hi guys,

I stayed in China for a while.

Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.

I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.

Sometimes cause I know Chinese.

So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST.

Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.

Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT.Bangkok is not so cheap and certainly more expensive than most places in China. Go to Pattaya or better still Phnom Penh.

Syzygies
04-27-12, 23:57
I have been very successful in hooking up with girls and one thing I learned, they LOVE to have their pussies Licked. One thing Thai Guys don't do.A small percentage of the working girls don't like it for very long, because they are liking it too much and scared they will come. ;)

Western787
04-28-12, 00:36
He comes across as en excited newbie. Don't worry, he will do his money and fizzle out. Maybe Climax is an indication his money is already running out.

Next vid, Chinatown LOLExcited Newbie? I don't think so. I think the guy if anything should be commeneded for trying diverse venues. He's openly stated he believes southeast asia presents the most opportunities. Sorry to tell you, but some guys just don't run out of money.

Goatscrot
04-28-12, 04:43
1500 is readily available. JUST don't expect any pretty girls to take you up for 1500 though.

I hope you go for mature personality type chicks.Lots of lookers available for 1500 ST.

DesiDownUnder
04-28-12, 05:03
I am thinking of going to BKK for the second time for this New Years Eve and have a few questions.

1. How expensive is the accommodation during that period?

2. How much will it cost to get a girl for NYE for the whole night? Do the agencies charge extra for this period?

3. Is it a good idea to travel to BKK during this period? .

BionicMan
04-28-12, 06:18
I am thinking of going to BKK for the second time for this New Years Eve and have a few questions.

1. How expensive is the accommodation during that period?

2. How much will it cost to get a girl for NYE for the whole night? Do the agencies charge extra for this period?

3. Is it a good idea to travel to BKK during this period? .Accomoodation: browse on hotel booking website and simulate a stay, no need of ISG for this.

LT girl for a NYE night: most likely the usual LT price, ISG gives tons of infos on prices. Account from 2000 to 4/5000bahts, sky and wallet is the limit for this. Depending where you pick up your girl from.

Agency: if you take the time to RTFF you will quickly realize going though an agency in Thailand is a waste of money, time, and the cause of missed opportunities. Visit a go-go, a soapie' a MP (you can book the for a full night from there too)! Check a FL on lower Sukhumvit, pay a visit to a bar, Thermae, Gulliver, Bangkok Beat. Here too sky is the limit. No need of a blind date through an expensive agency that will fool you with photoshopped images and a big question mark on the girl chemistry. Ma LT requires a degree of chemistry, otherwise it is just going to be a piping draining job.

Period: December is rated high season so airfare might be higher.

Western787
04-28-12, 08:01
Bangkok is not so cheap and certainly more expensive than most places in China. Go to Pattaya or better still Phnom Penh.Bangkok may be getting expensive, but looks like working girl inflation all over the place including Cambodia and Myamar, the later situation in part due to investors and speculators arriving looking for opportunities. Also in regard to the presidential secret service scandal in america, the argument with the "escort" in Columbia started because the agent refused to pay for what would have been equal to 24, 000 baht if it had occured in Bangkok. She wasn't that hot either.

Chill Out
04-28-12, 09:21
Bangkok is not so cheap and certainly more expensive than most places in China.That's not accurate. The average place in China (big cities) that you can compare with the gogos or Nataree-Show White-Mango etc, the cost will be about 800 RMB ST which means 3900 baths. For short time not long time. One shot only. And the line-up is small, the girls aren't as beautiful and the service isn't as good. Not by a long shot.

I spend a lot of time in China, I rarely partake there. It's not worth it compared to BKK.

Syzygies
04-28-12, 09:58
That's not accurate. The average place in China (big cities) that you can compare with the gogos or Nataree-Show White-Mango etc, the cost will be about 800 RMB ST which means 3900 baths. For short time not long time. One shot only. And the line-up is small, the girls aren't as beautiful and the service isn't as good. Not by a long shot.

I spend a lot of time in China, I rarely partake there. It's not worth it compared to BKK.Strangely while most writers rave about China, I agree with you. I didn't like it much. I haven't tried Macao.

Tony Hoeprano
04-28-12, 10:12
Most of the BJ bar reviews have been negative. Yet the reviews keep coming. LOL Ugly girls and terrible blow jobs but the price is right. I keep telling myself I'm going to visit one of these places for a good laugh.

I think the only scenario where you'd find a pretty girl working at one of these joints is if she was fearing for her life from her crazy ex-boyfriend and needed a place to hide. He would never look here!

Samata61
04-28-12, 11:05
April 19:

Arrived to Spasso around midnight and it was very busy with plenty of choice. I chose a pretty girl in a white dress with a nice buddy and great smile (Souki). Had a few drinks with her & friends and I noticed that the drinks were very expensive (550 BHT for a glass of wine). Danced and drank till the place closed at 2pm and then went back to my hotel and cost was not discussed. When Souki undressed her body was not as nice as in the dress that was slightly disappointed but she had great personality and smile that made the difference. When undressed, she immediately commented that I was big (I am not). Showered together then DATY and BBBJ and she would not stop to let me fuck her and continued till I came.

It was now around 5am; all the sudden she said that she had to leave and was very apologetic. I was visibly upset since but since we had no discussion of money, I gave her 2000bht and let her go.

April 20:

Had a good night sleep and woke up around noon, went up to the lounge for a quick bite then went to 'Health Land' for a legitimate massage that was really good with no sex play.

Had an early dinner, a nap, then off to Soi Cowboy. I wanted to check if the girl I enjoyed last time at Tilac is still there otherwise I will continue to Baccara. I entered Tilac around 10:30 and 'Trimboli' was the first girl to greet me at the dance floor and I was ecstatic to find her since I had a duo with her last time and I really wanted to have her alone but my happiness did not last long as she refused to go back with me and kept on sending me her friends. Well it felt awful to be stood by a GoGo bar girl.

There were few nice looking girls and I know the place and the mamsan well so I decided to stick around Tilac. I was interested in 2 girls and chose the one who spoke good English and she was a knock out 9 for sure (Yead). I guess these girls really make good money from the drinks since the girl wants to continue to drink and does not want to leave; I did not mind since I also enjoyed talking and playing with the girls and coyotes. Around 2am yead asks me if I can bar-fine her younger sister (Bee) who is not nearly as attractive; I had too much to drink already so I agreed and we left around 2:45 and Trimboli did not go with anybody so my ego was intact.

I was now hungry so all 3 of us went to dinner and during dinner Yead asked Bee can come with us and just sleep. I really did not want her to come but Yead had me wrapped around her little finger so I agreed but made sure they both know that Bee is not getting paid.

Arrived to the hotel well passed 4am and both Yead and myself are somewhat drunk. 3 of us took a shower together and was slightly disappointed that Yead had silicone implants but they were so perfect that I could not tell earlier or maybe I was too drunk.

Yead and I started kissing and to my surprise Bee started BBBJ and I had to stop her because I was getting too excited. Yead kept on moaning that she was very Horney and it was confirmed by her wet pussy; went into action for 15 minutes, shot my load, and was ready to sleep. Yead and I took a shower together then back to bed and yead continued to play with my dick while moaning that she is still Horney so I requested a 69 so Yead flipped over and to my surprise, Bee went back to give me the BBBJ and not Yead. I did not ask but I am guessing that Yead does not like to give BJ that is very strange in this business. I went to work on Yead pussy, pumped very hard in all positions for about 30 minutes. She came twice but was still begging for more and I had too much alcohol to come again. Yet another shower, daylight is now seeping in and I am completely exhausted. Back to bed and Yead is still playing with my dick and now she is playing with herself but there was no way I can do anything about it so I watched till she came again and went back to sleep. The girl was a dynamo.

I woke up the girls around 1:30pm and they were surprised that they slept so long. I had taken a shower already so I asked Yead to take a shower and that's when I was attacked by Bee who claimed to be very Horney and would not take no for an answer. It was a nice morning session but I would have rather play with Yead. The girls were now in a hurry and there was no time for another session with Yead. Money was never discussed till then and I tried to give 3000bht but they complained that they both worked on me and we finally settled for 5000bht but it was a great session and I would have happily paid double this amount as yead was a Gem.

April 21:

I went to lunch and did not have time to go to 'Health Land' as planed because the girls left so late so I settled for a foot and shoulder massage at a place close to JW Marriott but again without any sex. Took another nap and wanted to go back to Tilac take yead again for dinner and disco but when I arrived neither her nor Bee had showed up to work but I was not disappointed since a good dancer (Dada) whom I missed last night as she was taken by the customer ahead of me and my experience is that good dancers are usually very good in bed. I had not have anything to eat so I only took one drink at Tilac and told Dada that we have to leave for dinner then Disco as I really wanted to enjoy her dancing. We left to dinner then to Insomnia nightclub; arrived early at the club and took a table right at the stage. I was not going to repeat last night mistake and get loaded on hard liquor so I ordered a bottle of white wine while dancing and watching Dada dance (she is not very beautiful but so sexy). Three young girls asked if they can sit with us on the table, I did not mind but had to promise Dada that no matter what happens I will go with her at the end. I started dancing and playing with the 4 girls but my attention was mainly on Dada; ordered another bottle of wine and really liked the looks of one of the girls (Nan) so I asked for her phone number and she reluctantly gave it and while writing, one of the other girls (Air) jumped in and gave me her number.

Dada now claims to be drunk and wants to go so we got a taxi and back to the hotel. Dada went into the bathroom to take a shower alone and locked the door that was fine with me. I took my shower and once I stepped out Dada was ready for me and she was a firecracker even better than I expected. Great BBBJ, fucking in all positions, I came twice in an hour which is unusual after all the drinking but I tend to fear better with wine than hard alcohol. Took my second shower and when I got out Dada was already dressed and wants to leave, I did not mind sleeping alone especially since sleeping with 2 girls the night before. Again no money was discussed earlier so I gave her 3000bht and she left.

April 22:

Woke up rested for a change; my flight leaves at 3am so I can enjoy myself till about midnight and was debating what to do. I can either go back to Tilac as I have my site set on another girl but was not sure she will be available early and I had no time or I can call one of the 2 young girls I met in Insomnia last night but there is no guarantee that there will be sex from the first meeting. I decided to call Air as she was more interested in me to chat so she will not forget me when I come back to Bangkok next time. During the conversation I asked her where she worked and she replied 'La Bell' so everything has changed and I know that sex will be on the menu so I asked her if she can come back to the hotel for dinner and sex afterward and she asked to call her back in 10 minutes. I called back and she asked for 5000bht and we settled for 3000bht.

She arrived promptly at 8pm and she is a different person, in a dress with hair do and she looked stunning. We stayed for dinner at the hotel as to save time and she was very happy and so was I. Went up to the room where she insisted on showering me and treating me like a king and I did not have to do anything. We had 2 hours long session since she was very good and not at all in hurry we both came twice and she claims that she had not come in 2 months; everything was on the menu BBBJ, sex in all position, even anal but I am not to interested. Once finished she insisted on going with me to the airport and she insist that she is my girlfriend and she shoots me at least one email per day and frankly speaking, I am puzzled how can a girl that works at 'La Belle' and gets fucked at least once a day thinks that I will be her boyfriend but I figured I will take the occasions to explore any secrets or information that 'La Belle' has so if anyone has questions please forwarded and I will ask Air.

Here is some information that I was able to get about 'La Belle' from Air:

1. The girl gets most of the money and the house only gets 1, 000bht per session.

2. Air works about 20 days per month and makes 60, 000 to 80, 000 per month.

3. The girls get tested every 2 months by 'La Bell' and receive a clean bill of health card.

4. Farang on average don't have the biggest dicks that honor belongs to 'India White' and they are very aggressive. The girl is usually out of action the next day after having one of them.

Hotman 666
04-28-12, 11:16
Does anyone care to share contact information on a semi-pro or an independent and very GFE pro in BKK? I am looking for someone who might want to travel with me and is fun to be with. Bisexual would be preferred, as I would like to do some mongering in BKK as well. I would, of course, contact her before I go to BKK to make certain we are compatible so no one should feel that I would hold them responsible if things don't go well. Please pm me.

In return, I have a few real GFE semi-pros in Rio to whom I could introduce you, although I know this is of limited value to most of the guys on the BKK board. They are all young (although quite legal) , beautiful and bi, just the way I like them!Forest,

It is always difficult to make any recommendations as us guys tend to like different things in a Playmate!

For the sort of relationship that YOU are looking for I would suggest that you post an ad on Craigslist a few weeks before you travel.

You then have the time to make a selection (there will almost certainly be SEVERAL replies) and you can 'get to know' potential companions!

Then, when you get to BKK you can meet your selected girl (OR girls) and take it from there.

Craigslist has been good for me in Thailand and I have met some GREAT playmates. Some who I have been seeing for several years now!

Best of luck and ENJOY (I DO!)

Hotman.

Chill Out
04-28-12, 11:52
I figured I will take the occasions to explore any secrets or information that 'La Belle' has so if anyone has questions please forwarded and I will ask Air.

Here is some information that I was able to get about 'La Belle' from Air:

1. The girl gets most of the money and the house only gets 1, 000bht per session.

2. Air works about 20 days per month and makes 60, 000 to 80, 000 per month.

3. The girls get tested every 2 months by 'La Bell' and receive a clean bill of health card.

4. Farang on average don't have the biggest dicks that honor belongs to 'India White' and they are very aggressive. The girl is usually out of action the next day after having one of them.Thanks for this. I like to see this kind of insight.

I've never been to La Belle but from reports I know it's on the priciest side of BKK. How much do clients pay for her? 60 to 80K per month doesn't sound like so much for that kind of expensive place. My "girlfriend" works in a pricey place too, she makes the same kind of money but working a lot less. 2-3 times a week so 10 days a month or so. Between what she gets from the shop and the extras at hotels (where she makes more) it doesn't take 20 days to get to those amounts.

Dr BJ
04-28-12, 13:13
Most of the BJ bar reviews have been negative. Yet the reviews keep coming. LOL Ugly girls and terrible blow jobs but the price is right. I keep telling myself I'm going to visit one of these places for a good laugh.

I think the only scenario where you'd find a pretty girl working at one of these joints is if she was fearing for her life from her crazy ex-boyfriend and needed a place to hide. He would never look here!I would like to invite you to sample the Salon, but first have a look at our ladies from the website.

http://www.bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html

If you decide to try it out please let me know who you are when you come in and I will buy you a beer before you go upstairs.

Regards BJ

Werqweq
04-28-12, 16:15
Just back from a 3 day business trip in Bangkok, and will be returning in 3 weeks for a longer stay.

Decided to visit Dr BJ to see if it lived up to expectation, and it was nothing short of brutal. The ladies were honking, the whole setup is a joke, and the man on hand to 'advise' you is rude and obnoxious.

I didn't even take one of the baskervilles and instead opted for a visit to Mango where their service continues to please. Dr BJ is definitely not for me and I will not be going back.Judging by this members previous posts, some with very negative and as far as I can see, completely unwarranted attitude towards Dr. BJ, I wonder if the above report is true. The lack of any details whatsoever and his previous out of line rambling makes me suspect this member only wants to discredit the establishment, for whatever reason.

I hope me saying that does not result in Wolf Hound posting a reply that the admin will again have to delete "because it appeared to be a threat made towards other Forum members".

(Not that I am recommending Dr. BJ. I have never been there, but will say that Dr. BJ's posts are in general much more interesting than Wolf Hound's and he does not seem rude or obnoxius. As far as I can remember from the webpages, there is some fairly attractive staff there too. Perhaps Wolf Hound was offended because he came in expecting to get a BJ from the doctor, but the doctor turned him down?)