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Since we are on the topic of chatting up women for sex, I got these from girls last night. Some fun times and some very daring girls.
I got one girl to invite me to her place within 4 minutes of camming.
You got to love ThailandChatting up girls or sitting at home beating off to web cam pictures all night;)
Chatting up girls or sitting at home beating off to web cam pictures all night;)Same old Nic Frenchy of old. Nothing useful to say apart from his usual acid queen comments. I don't think I have ever seen a useful peice of information posted by you on this forum. Just the usual holier than thou stuff while you sit at home beating off to web cam pictures and posting ENDLESS numbers of meaning less posts on here :)
Holy shit!
Things are finally starting to get interesting around here!
Let's hear more, gentlemen. I can't believe you are so far apart in your thinking, but I guess what works for one might not work for another yet the result might be the same.
Amazing!
I think the TRUE key to success in online dating is to be patient (obviously that only really works if you live here).
A German guy I know taught me this and I consider him to be the supreme master of online dating.
It is definitely true that you can laid on the first date but if you play the long game you will, within about 4 to 6 weeks become absolutely inundated with girls, literally one every day is very achievable.
His advice to me was to never aim for sex on the first date and to completely delete that thought from your mind. His approach was to build a massive portfolio of women that had become curious about him and that he would aim to sleep with on the second date after some sms back and forth after first meeting.
This guy had spreadsheets to keep track. He even had predesignated meeting points where he could view the meeting point from a location where he couldn't be seen and if the girl didn't look like her pictures he would just leave.
Hope this helps a bit
Honestly? If I were to write a book on online dating, what you quoted above from your friend would be on my list of things Not to do.
Huge portfolio? Spreadsheet? Rely on Pictures and hide like a 15 year old to see who the girl is? Not for me. That is a total waste of time.
You need to research properly, talk only with the girls YOU are interested in, Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprises and always bring the conversation to Naughty stuff (yes, there is a way to bring it up as not to offend the lady). With all that, you get laid on the first date. Hell, I never meet a girl in a public place, she comes to my room on the first date.
Spreadsheets. Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha now I have heard it all
Wrong. Totally wrong.
The amount of time needed to cam is extremely time consuming.
Nic I think you are one of those fools that have the worst of all worlds. Spending your time chasing hookers online!
You need to research properly, talk only with the girls YOU are interested in, Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprises and always bring the conversation to Naughty stuff (yes, there is a way to bring it up as not to offend the lady). With all that, you get laid on the first date. Hell, I never meet a girl in a public place, she comes to my room on the first date.
LThis technique will see your conversion rate drop dramatically. It works but the long game technique is for the true professionals who properly understand the Thai's and understand the rules of conversion.
Your loss.
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 09:47
Same old Nic Frenchy of old. Nothing useful to say apart from his usual acid queen comments. I don't think I have ever seen a useful peice of information posted by you on this forum. Just the usual holier than thou stuff while you sit at home beating off to web cam pictures and posting ENDLESS numbers of meaning less posts on here :)Aaawww Did I strike a nerve boy? No need to get all worked up by yourself, just makes me smile is all. If you would know me, you'd know post count don't mean shit, and if I did not anything useful then put me on "Ignore" so you won't have to see me.
Holy shit!
Things are finally starting to get interesting around here!
Let's hear more, gentlemen. I can't believe you are so far apart in your thinking, but I guess what works for one might not work for another yet the result might be the same.
Amazing!Hahaha. Its true though that the technique Nic F is talking about can work but it does DRAMATICALLY reduce your chances. It is the exact same technique I used before my friend enlightened me to the correct way.
In the first technique you will spend hours online chatting and camming (which Nc seems to spend his life doing) before you get a live one. In the long game it will take about 4 to 6 weeks to build to critical mass at which point you will have an INSANE amount of pussy.
Once I discovered the second technique it was like putting turbo boosters on online dating...it was like going from Kindergarten to University (no pun intended).
Seriously ask yourself how many girls there are online that will cam, come to your home and fuck you on the first date (here or anyhwere in the world). Yes for sure they exist but they are few and far between.
Now ask yourself how many girls would come for a coffee with a polite businessman that has shown an interest with them. And if you had the right attitude and demeanor then how many of those could you then "convert"
Its two totally different techniques. One is amateurish and wouldn't get you any better results than anywhere else in the world. The second is the pro approach that fully leverages the intricacies of the Thai culture and mindset.
This technique will see your conversion rate drop dramatically. It works but the long game technique is for the true professionals who properly understand the Thai's and understand the rules of conversion.your loss.There is a high unemployment rate worldwide and it is very true one has to find new jobs, be creative, invent something. But if we have to transform dating on line into a sort of "profession" to get freebies or nearly freebies (nothing's free, we all know that) , oh well. I prefer to stick to the rule "pay them to leave". I don't dispute it is nicer not to have an hardcore professional hooker, all business oriented, time watcher, whose only mission to make you come is that once you are done with that, she is also done with you. I agree enjoy some time together with a girl on a semi-date, having a dinner or few drinks is valuable too. But, men, spreadsheets, profiling, record and all that, I leave it to Langley Virginia.
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 09:50
This technique will see your conversion rate drop dramatically. It works but the long game technique is for the true professionals who properly understand the Thai's and understand the rules of conversion.
Your loss.Do you even know what conversion rate is? Or you need a spreadsheet? Conversion? What is this some kind of game? Who's got the bigger conversion has the bigger dick? How old are you 5?
Have you even done some internet dating? Or you are just swallowing all of what your friend tells you and post it here?
In my opinion, it's not about conversion at all, I'm just happy to meet good looking women for sex. Simple as that, no numbers, statistics. I leave this to the kids.
Do you even know what conversion rate is? Or you need a spreadsheet? Conversion? What is this some kind of game? Who's got the bigger conversion has the bigger dick? How old are you 5?
Have you even done some internet dating? Or you are just swallowing all of what your friend tells you and post it here?
In my opinion, it's not about conversion at all, I'm just happy to meet good looking women for sex. Simple as that, no numbers, statistics. I leave this to the kids.Nic don't blame me that you are still applying Western style methods In Thailand. Its a shame you have been unable to understand the culture in Thailand and leverage your time here to it's full potential
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 10:00
Nic don't blame me that you are still applying Western style methods In Thailand. Its a shame you have been unable to understand the culture in Thailand and leverage your time here to it's full potentialActually, it's quite the Opposite, I use a THAI site, all written in THAI where young THAI people meet for a good time.
Matter of fact, Met a lovely girl last night, we started chatting via MSN at 22:35 and by 22:39 she gave me her address and number.
You see, I use Tagged, Camfrog, TLL for the long con, but there are a few THAI sites where girls (mostly 20 24) are really bored and want to meet guys, but you need to know how to read and write Thai
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 10:03
THAI Pickup website. Works wonders
THAI Pickup website. Works wondersBig deal. Another of your silly screen shots that mean nothing.
More meaningless drivel to add to your 3, 600 other posts of holier than thou nonsense
Horny Landoora
05-13-12, 10:50
Holy shit!
Things are finally starting to get interesting around here!
Let's hear more, gentlemen. I can't believe you are so far apart in your thinking, but I guess what works for one might not work for another yet the result might be the same.
Amazing!I think it would be better to move the conversation to GENERAL section or probably create another forum to discuss as it would apply to how or not to work your way upto Non Pros! On this sub forum probably more of us are interested to read about new places in Bangkok or reviews on existing with discoveries made by fellow mongers!
Not another sub forum, please.
Just as with any activity, there are many ways to skin a cat. Both methods would work, it depends how much structure you want to have and how serious you want to be. I couldn't be bothered with doing spreadsheets either.
Tony Hoeprano
05-13-12, 11:21
Obstacles to dating good Thai girls:
They work ALOT. Most work 6 days a week and not only will you be competing against other dudes, you'll be competing for their spare time, which they'll often want to spend with their friends and family or they'll simply be too tired to go out.
Many not speak good Engrish! I've met a few hot live ones and their English was terrible and it became too awkward and frustrating. So learn your thai guy! Haha.
The better looking girls get tons of messages on these sites. I saw my Gik's mailbox on her Tagged account and there was maybe 30 messages in one day. Probably more. She simply deleted all of them. You want to stand out, you better be quite a compelling character.
MANY, especially the smoking hot party girls you see at RCA / Siam Square / Thong lo have NO intention of meeting falang dudes! You might get a nibble here and there, its not out of the realm of possibility, but they're generally bored or prefer to meet Thai dudes.
Some have no intention of finding a boyfriend on these sites and only want to improve their Engrish. Perhaps you could lure one of them into the friendly confines of your house, but more often than not, it's just a dead end.
Some good girls not really good girls! If her schedule is wide open, chances are she's not such a good girl!
It takes time and effort to get quality girls. Sure any Joe Blow or overweight English teacher can get a 35+ year old with horrible stretch marks. 3 kids, a previous Thai husband who did nothing but beat her and drink whiskey all day, and saggy tits to make a quick rendevous. Not much demand for them!
Thai girls are generally shy, especially if they haven't been around too many falang. I was working on one gal from Thai Friendly, a 26 year old cute thai / Chinese mix, goes to RCA often, while she's interested to hook up, she's somewhat of an airhead, and very shy to meet.
Girls that are too eager to meet right away are desperate and almost never hot. No girl worth her salt will meet right away.
Obstacles to dating good Thai girls:
They work ALOT. Most work 6 days a week and not only will you be competing against other dudes, you'll be competing for their spare time, which they'll often want to spend with their friends and family or they'll simply be too tired to go out.
Many not speak good Engrish! I've met a few hot live ones and their English was terrible and it became too awkward and frustrating. So learn your thai guy! Haha.
The better looking girls get tons of messages on these sites. I saw my Gik's mailbox on her Tagged account and there was maybe 30 messages in one day. Probably more. She simply deleted all of them. You want to stand out, you better be quite a compelling character.
MANY, especially the smoking hot party girls you see at RCA / Siam Square / Thong lo have NO intention of meeting falang dudes! You might get a nibble here and there, its not out of the realm of possibility, but they're generally bored or prefer to meet Thai dudes.
Some have no intention of finding a boyfriend on these sites and only want to improve their Engrish. Perhaps you could lure one of them into the friendly confines of your house, but more often than not, it's just a dead end.
Some good girls not really good girls! If her schedule is wide open, chances are she's not such a good girl!
It takes time and effort to get quality girls. Sure any Joe Blow or overweight English teacher can get a 35+ year old with horrible stretch marks. 3 kids, a previous Thai husband who did nothing but beat her and drink whiskey all day, and saggy tits to make a quick rendevous. Not much demand for them!
Thai girls are generally shy, especially if they haven't been around too many falang. I was working on one gal from Thai Friendly, a 26 year old cute thai / Chinese mix, goes to RCA often, while she's interested to hook up, she's somewhat of an airhead, and very shy to meet.
Girls that are too eager to meet right away are desperate and almost never hot. No girl worth her salt will meet right away.Tony, totally agree which is why I think Nic is just so utterly wrong on the subject and has no real grasp of internet dating.
If you have a hot Thai girl that is receiving 20 or 30 messages a day and then some one comes along and says "hey lets get on the webcam, can you show me your tits, great can you come to my place now". I mean come on seriously, how far are you going to get with that approach?
You are right, all you will get with that style is the occasional desperate fat ugly girl. No good looking girl has any need to do that.
Tony, totally agree which is why I think Nic is just so utterly wrong on the subject and has no real grasp of internet dating.Tony & Bowerboy:
You guys, in your haste to trash Frenchy, missed the most important peice of information in this discussion.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Nic, but I think you said that you can speak, read, and write Thai. That, of course, gives you a tremendous advantage which can make all the difference in the world for farang success on any Internet dating site in Thailand.
Actually, it's quite the Opposite, I use a THAI site, all written in THAI where young THAI people meet for a good time.
You see, I use Tagged, Camfrog, TLL for the long con, but there are a few THAI sites where girls (mostly 20 24) are really bored and want to meet guys, but you need to know how to read and write Thai
The only thing I'm wondering is why he never told us that before.
LuvnLatinas
05-13-12, 12:05
Arrived in Bangkok today from Pattaya and planned to hit Dr BJ's asap. Hmm formatting keeps changing so I B'd To separate the details further below.
Met the good Dr himself upon entering the salon. A very personable guy, answered a couple questions as the girls took their places by the railing and on the couches in the lower area. As he was explaining how the place worked I saw a very pretty face and my list was forgotten! Her hair was long and the way it framed her face made her look adorable. I still checked them all but kept coming back to her while talking with the Dr. I told the doc she was the one for me and waited with him while she came downstairs.
She had on a red form fitting dress that looked great on her. Small chest, slim waist, and a nice looking ass. I saw her tag said 'D' and I wondered why I didn't see her on the website. She asked my name and told me hers was Pat. I smiled and hoped she would be as good as Pat in Pattaya! I asked her if her pic was on the website and she said it was. 3rd one from top. I told her I didn't think I saw her pic but maybe she was just prettier in person. And I wasn't lying as I found out later when I checked her pic on the website! She does look prettier in person.
She took me over to a sink just like the ones in a hair salon and washed up my dick while chatting and laughing with me. I then sat down in the chair and got comfy so we could get the show on the road. She crawled up my body kissing my stomach, my chest and nips, my neck, my jaw line, all making me very horny! Her BJ was absolutely fantastic. Fast, slow, almost deepthroat, ball licking, ball sucking, the whole shabang. I knew I was in trouble when my legs started to vibrate and it wasn't long after that I busted my nut in her mouth. I warned her I was ready to shoot and she didn't slow down a bit, sucking until I was dead in the water and couldn't move.
We started chatting and laughing again as she cleaned me up before heading downstairs to pay the tab. A quick chat with the Dr and I was headed back to my hotel to write this up and then relax before tonight sets in. I will definitely return to Dr BJ's Salon.
I got back to the hotel and checked the website for her. Her hair today was styled differently and was more suited to her face. I believe this and the fact she was smiling the entire time is why she looked so different than her pics on the site. I think the good Dr will have to update her write-up as she was very affectionate with me. I had a wonderful time with her and can't say anything bad about her oral skills. She definitely deserves better than the 7. 6 she has on the website based on her performance with me today.
Date of encounter: 13 May 2012
Name: D.
Age: Didn't ask.
Languages: Thai and a little english.
Making Contact
How did you find her: Lineup at Dr BJ's. She is on the website though I didn't pick her from it.
Link:
http://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html
Did she match her pics: A little, I actually think she looks better in person than in the pics on the website. I mentioned this to Dr BJ as well.
Percentage Photoshop:
Was she on time: She was in-house.
Neighborhood: Soi 7/1.
Does she or doesn't she
Anal: Didn't ask. It's a BJ bar.
Oral w or w / o: without until I popped in her mouth.
Kissing:
Any restrictions:
How would you rate her
Face: 7, prettier in person than in her pics.
Tits: 6-7, small, nice nips.
Ass: 8, nicely shaped ass and looked great in her outfit.
Body: 7-8, on the whole her body was very pleasing to my eyes in her outfit. The first thing I noticed when she got in the lineup was her face and hair.
Level of Service
Enthusiastic or Business-Like: Very enthusiastic! Dr BJ's write-up doesn't do her justice!
Clock Watcher: No. She didn't look at a clock or a watch at all.
Her strong point: Oral skills were very good.
Her weak point: None that I can think of in the oral skills department.
$$$ & Time: 1000 baht until the end plus a couple of drinks.
Overall Rating of Encounter: 10, I was thoroughly pleased with both D and the entire encounter, from start to finish.
Do you recommend: Highly recommended. If you had a bad BJ before go see her and get a great one!
Tony & Bowerboy:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Nic, but I think you said that you can speak, read, and write Thai. The only thing I'm wondering is why he never told us that before.Maybe he doesn't want to tell us he works for Quai the'Orsay. (or for what is now the former address) LOL
GentleBoner
05-13-12, 12:24
This afternoon I took the advice of this forum and went on several dating websites. I talked to the girls on cam and recorded all their vital stats and information in a spreadsheet. While on cam I made sure the camera was pointed through the window of my bedroom directly onto the sofa in the living room, so she would be aware that my sofa is in a separate room, which usually made her really horny and interested in me.
I've had sex 8 times today with 8 different hi-so girls. Average time between the first message to her and sex was 2. 5 minutes (including travel to my place on her brand new expensive motorbike). Before leaving they all made up the room and prepared fresh condoms and refreshments for the next girl who would be arriving shortly.
Thanks to everyone for the tips.
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 12:33
Big deal. Another of your silly screen shots that mean nothing.
More meaningless drivel to add to your 3, 600 other posts of holier than thou nonsenseNow now boy, why get so riled up boy? You need to take a chill pill or you're going to have a heart attack soon.
Is everything written on this board so important to you?
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 12:40
The only thing I'm wondering is why he never told us that before.Do you write all your life on a forum where men talk about which girl they fucked and for how much? And then want try and prove they have a bigger dick?
The senior Members I met and meet when they are in Bangkok know me, who I really am and not my Internet Persona.
But anyhow, it's always fun to now and then encounter people that are deluded about what Thailand is and think that because they've been here 40 times on holiday and go to RCA and all, understand the country and its inner workings.
Thing is, No Foreigner will ever fully understand this country because they will never be let-in. Even OTH knew that. You see, I have been here a long ass time, living and working and I will never have the pretence to say I know all about Thailand, because I most certainly never will. And you know what? I am completely fine with that.
Internet Persona.Exactly :) In your case based on Fantasy. I actually think you ARE OTH. Seriously. You come across in exactly the same arrogant way and seem to spout the same non sense and with a similar amount of posts.
"is everything written on this board so important to me". No but clearly it is to you as indicated by the 3, 000 plus posts.
That post from Gentle Boner was pretty funny
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 12:57
exactly :) in your case based on fantasy. i actually think you are oth. seriously. you come across in exactly the same arrogant way and seem to spout the same non sense and with a similar amount of posts.nah, oth was a great man which most of you did not get the chance to meet. he's a true old asia hand.
"is everything written on this board so important to me". no but clearly it is to you as indicated by the 3, 000 plus posts.not really, could have been in the 5000 by now, seeing as i completely stopped reading / posting for 2 years. was too busy on dating sites. hahaha.
seriously dude, number of posts is meaningless to me, it's not because someone has 9000 posts that they're better than the rest.
i just like to post and take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of people sometimes. some understand that and we have fun, others (like you) take it personal and it grows old quick.
that post from gentle boner was pretty funnyagreed, i almost peed myself.
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 13:02
I think it would be better to move the conversation to GENERAL section or probably create another forum to discuss as it would apply to how or not to work your way upto Non Pros! On this sub forum probably more of us are interested to read about new places in Bangkok or reviews on existing with discoveries made by fellow mongers!Ah, the Forum police!
Sorry but, we are in the Bangkok Thread are we not? So dating sites don't cover girls from Bangkok? And where is it written that we need to discuss pros only?
If this conversation is not where it's supposed to be, then I expect a moderator to move it or tell us the rules because so far, there aren't any here.
If ou need a report about Bangkok, you are welcome to enlighten us with one, I'll be waiting for your report.
Otherwise, you're just clogging the thread like the rest of us you're accusing.
Sorry if I sounded harsh, but rules are rules.
I've had sex 8 times today with 8 different hi-so girls. Average time between the first message to her and sex was 2. 5 minutes (including travel to my place on her brand new expensive motorbike). Before leaving they all made up the room and prepared fresh condoms and refreshments for the next girl who would be arriving shortly.
Thanks to everyone for the tips.There is still room for improvement, as your girl should also keep you mildly aroused for the next girl and eventually get her a bit wet to facilitate the deed. But probably your spreadsheet is not sophisticated enough to include a "bi / non-bi" option. See? Not professional enough!
There is still room for improvement, as your girl should also keep you mildly aroused for the next girl and eventually get her a bit wet to facilitate the deed. But probably your spreadsheet is not sophisticated enough to include a "bi / non-bi" option. See? Not professional enough!Spreadsheet needs to include each girls name, number, brief description and where they are in the conversion funnel.
Second spread sheet to monitor results when split testing message content and message headers (ie test which messages work best for each stage of the conversion funnel). Same for sms messages.
I am serious, that is the extent we took it to. Myself, My German Friend and another American friend.
Crazy yes, obsessive compulsive yes, massive amounts of sexual activity yes, some of the craziest and best years of my life yes, regrets absolutely not!
Obstacles to dating good Thai girls:
They work ALOT. Most work 6 days a week and not only will you be competing against other dudes, you'll be competing for their spare time, which they'll often want to spend with their friends and family or they'll simply be too tired to go out.
Many not speak good Engrish! I've met a few hot live ones and their English was terrible and it became too awkward and frustrating. So learn your thai guy! Haha.
The better looking girls get tons of messages on these sites. I saw my Gik's mailbox on her Tagged account and there was maybe 30 messages in one day. Probably more. She simply deleted all of them. You want to stand out, you better be quite a compelling character.
MANY, especially the smoking hot party girls you see at RCA / Siam Square / Thong lo have NO intention of meeting falang dudes! You might get a nibble here and there, its not out of the realm of possibility, but they're generally bored or prefer to meet Thai dudes.
Some have no intention of finding a boyfriend on these sites and only want to improve their Engrish. Perhaps you could lure one of them into the friendly confines of your house, but more often than not, it's just a dead end.
Some good girls not really good girls! If her schedule is wide open, chances are she's not such a good girl!
It takes time and effort to get quality girls. Sure any Joe Blow or overweight English teacher can get a 35+ year old with horrible stretch marks. 3 kids, a previous Thai husband who did nothing but beat her and drink whiskey all day, and saggy tits to make a quick rendevous. Not much demand for them!
Thai girls are generally shy, especially if they haven't been around too many falang. I was working on one gal from Thai Friendly, a 26 year old cute thai / Chinese mix, goes to RCA often, while she's interested to hook up, she's somewhat of an airhead, and very shy to meet.
Girls that are too eager to meet right away are desperate and almost never hot. No girl worth her salt will meet right away.Excellent post, I'd say this is all 100% true."Good" Thai girls are busy, with work, with friends, with family, and most certainly won't be hopping in the sack with you after chatting on the internet. The ones that will, take a look at their various email boxes and even furthermore at their motives. If you don't want to pursuit a committed full time relationship in this country, 'tis a million times better to fork out a bit of cash and have an endless load of fun.
Spreadsheet needs to include each girls name, number, brief description and where they are in the conversion funnel.
I am serious, that is the extent we took it to. Myself, My German Friend and another American friend.
Crazy yes, obsessive compulsive yes, massive amounts of sexual activity yes, some of the craziest and best years of my life yes, regrets absolutely not!. I clearly don't do that and keep on wanking. I am old school. :)
Horny Landoora
05-13-12, 15:17
Ah, the Forum police! Sorry but, we are in the Bangkok Thread are we not? So dating sites don't cover girls from Bangkok? And where is it written that we need to discuss pros only?
It was just a suggestion and not accusation to anyone of misconduct or not following forum policy. Secondly am sure when you talk about THAI girls, Bangkok is just part of your acheivements. I recommended General section as this topic to me seemed apt to be discussed there.
If ou need a report about Bangkok, you are welcome to enlighten us with one, I'll be waiting for your report.
Sure. When am there next I shall try my best to report. In meanwhile I come here to understand the scene or discover a new place like many others. Hopefully sooner I will submit a comprehensive report. And yes I hope that I can also get a non pros this time round.
Traveler1234
05-13-12, 15:23
You see, I have been here a long ass time, living and working and I will never have the pretence to say I know all about Thailand, because I most certainly never will. And you know what? I am completely fine with that.
Nic has been a major contributor to the MP scene since he came onto the scene back in 2007. He even claimed to be a newbie back when he first signed on! After Mick Licker and others left, Nic continued to post updates on all the hots spots.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2883-2007-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors&p=560104&viewfull=1#post560104
[read post 150].
Nah, OTH was a great man which most of you did not get the chance to meet. He's a True Old Asia Hand.
However, but I can't disagree more with this comment. Yes, OTH was an old asian hand by virtue of having resided in the Kingdom for many years. He contributed to ISG and had many supporters.
But at the same time, he was too arrogant, and a constant whiner. He finally got caught with his hands in the cookie jar too many times and made himself 'persona non-grata' with the same hands that fed him all these years.
Was yesterday at Patpong and wanted to try a BJ-Bar, did never before. Went to Rose, only 3 girls and one uglier than the other and one old woman went on my nerves wanted a drink for a 2 minute massage at my hands. Didn't finish my bear and run out.
Stepped in kangaroo, looked much better, about 10 girls around and some didn't looked too bad, guess you can expect real good lookers at places like that. Went with one to a room, just separated by a curtain from the bar. The BJ was not good, she just wanted that I came fast, but again I don't think you can expect a good one here, I just wanted to experience.
Now one question. When I sat down, she just pulled down my Jeans and my pants, that's it. T-Shirt on. She fully dressed.
Is that only in these cheap Bar like that? How is it in the upper class BJ Bars like Dr. BJ, Lollitas, Lollipop?
Do you get naked there? T-Shirt on or off? Jeans just down or put if off? The girls, do they get naked or put the T-Shirt off? I don't want to end up that the girls in one of these places start laughing when I undress because you usually don't do it.
Please help.
By the way, it was 800 Baht
Tony, totally agree which is why I think Nic is just so utterly wrong on the subject and has no real grasp of internet dating.
If you have a hot Thai girl that is receiving 20 or 30 messages a day and then some one comes along and says "hey lets get on the webcam, can you show me your tits, great can you come to my place now". I mean come on seriously, how far are you going to get with that approach?
You are right, all you will get with that style is the occasional desperate fat ugly girl. No good looking girl has any need to do that.Well, for what it's worth, the guy at.
http://www.livingthai.org/
, who, like NicFrenchy I understand, also appears to be able to both speak and read / write Thai, has an approach that sounds much closer to NicFrenchy's than to your friend's. It does not sound like the guy has much experience or interest in bonking fat, ugly, or 25+ year old girls either. So I don't think it's logical to say that NicFrenchy's approach is uterly wrong. Clearly it works well for both him and at least one other person, who are somewhat unique in that they can read / write Thai. The livingthai-guy also indicates that the Thai online-world is full of young girls looking for sex, so I'm currently doing my best to learn Thai.
My own online-dating experience goes a couple years back, but has for the most part been a waste of time. Unfortunately, I do not know Thai, so am limited to the English-language sites. The one or two handful of times I have actually met somebody, I have however always either sexed them the the first night, or when they turned up they also turned up to be somebody I would not want to sex. In all cases where I did sex them the first night, repeat performances were available, so having sex with me on the first night does not seem to have carried any noticeable stigma. I thus see no value in your friends "holding out" on sex until the second time. What is he trying to accomplish by that? Make them think he is gay, scarred of women, or not interested? Or does he spin some fable about how the woman is "too special to him" for him to have sex with her on the first night? Why not take it a step further even, and on the second night, instead of having sex, just lay in bed holding hands and kissing lightly? Perhaps on the third night they could get naked, and on the fourth finally have sex? Really, I don't understand the point of this.
NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 17:14
I'm currently doing my best to learn Thai.Very wise.
My own online-dating experience goes a couple years back, but has for the most part been a waste of time. Unfortunately, I do not know Thai, so am limited to the English-language sites.Nothing wrong with that. There are plenty of English sites that are free and work well.
The issue with THAI hook-up sites, there are many gays and ladyboys so one needs to be very careful.
LittleBigMan
05-13-12, 17:17
Nic has been a major contributor to the MP scene since he came onto the scene back in 2007. He even claimed to be a newbie back when he first signed on! After Mick Licker and others left, Nic continued to post updates on all the hots spots.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2883-2007-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors&p=560104&viewfull=1#post560104
[read post 150].
However, but I can't disagree more with this comment. Yes, OTH was an old asian hand by virtue of having resided in the Kingdom for many years. He contributed to ISG and had many supporters.
But at the same time, he was too arrogant, and a constant whiner. He finally got caught with his hands in the cookie jar too many times and made himself 'persona non-grata' with the same hands that fed him all these years.Traveler 1234,
You have been on this board for a long time and I usually agree with your contributions and opinions but regarding OTH, in due respect I can't agree with you on this issue. When I first came on this board I didn't post much but I read much of what OTH has to contribute between himself and other members. I didn't agree or disagree one way or another with his contribution and debates with other members. I just read both opinions and put it on the back burner that this was their experience and opinions. Yes! OTH, is and was a old asian hand by virtue of having resided in the Kingdom for many years. Residing in the Kingkom just like the members who he debated comes experiences, good or bad and those experiences allows not only OTH to express them but other members.
When everything was going down two years ago, I was a supporter of OTH, and I gave my many reasons to Jackson. During that period I spend hours reviewing all of OTH post and exchanges with other members. Sure he might have been arrogant but who isn't from time to time on this board? He expressed his experiences and he gave his reason each and everytime so did others but the BIG DIFFERENCE was OTH never went to Jackson because he couldn't get others to agree with him. Those are the whiners who didn't have the balls to identify themselves instead ask Jackson to do the dirty work for them they attack him personally the first opportunity they got or went to Jackson. He gave and took it as good as anyone and never went behind someones back! He lived and worked as a teacher in Thailand and like everyone everywhere gets frustrated with their jobs he vented on the board! Believe it or not he was human regardless if you agree with him or not. The same people who debated him took every opportunity when he had a bad day to atack him personally because that is all they had left! Remember when he had the confrontation with the taxi driver? If anyone got personally attacked it was him.
As noted, I went through all his post. I never read anything that required his post to be deleted by Jackson. Sure like many of us get frustrated and from time to use words that might not be fitting but it came from both sides, words like Jap, monkey, dark brown fucking machine, talking about racism but I never saw Jackson come in and delete or tongue lass those individual but OTH was approach to tone it down for his personal views and opinions. He was arrogant like all of us and he had a ego and he refuse Jackson request and offer! He was never given a chance to defend his position in the open forum and never really had a choice.
These comments aren't a referendum on Jackson, he has a tough job to do, and it doesn't help when you have splineless individuals constantly running to him whining about a member who clearly has express his opinion based on his experience with the many years of residing in Thailand. Those individual try to take that away from him and got personal when they couldn't win him over! He never got his hand caught in the cookie jar he lived and die on this board and was force out but he stayed true to himself and his convictions by walking away knowing he did nothing wrong! That is the true OTH!
The last few years I have gone back to the back burner because I have personally experience some of the things OTH contributed and I can tell you there are many Expats living in Thailand that feel as he did. How he handle it was by venting on ISG whenever the opportunity arised I myself just don't have the patience that he had. I never met the man but since his name was brought up I hope he is well no matter where he is residing!
LBM
Do you write all your life on a forum where men talk about which girl they fucked and for how much? And then want try and prove they have a bigger dick?No, but if I knew how to speak, read and write Thai well enough to persue non-English speaking girls on a Thai web site, I probably would have mentioned that fact at some point during the last six years. Certainly it's nothing to be ashamed of and, after all, this IS a Thai related forum, right?
No need to get your panties in a bunch about it. I wasn't asking for your life story, and by the way I was defending you in case you didn't notice that.
Traveler 1234,
You have been on this board for a long time and I usually agree with your contributions and opinions but regarding OTH, in due respect I can't agree with you on this issue. When I first came on this board I didn't post much but I read much of what OTH has to contribute between himself and other members. I didn't agree or disagree one way or another with his contribution and debates with other members. I just read both opinions and put it on the back burner that this was their experience and opinions. Yes! OTH, is and was a old asian hand by virtue of having resided in the Kingdom for many years. Residing in the Kingkom just like the members who he debated comes experiences, good or bad and those experiences allows not only OTH to express them but other members.
LBMEven though I'm a newbie here, I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. I think I joined shortly before or after OTH left, so I initially saw only a few references to him in other posts or something like that, but one of the first things I did after I started to read this board was to read all OTH's posts. I think anybody with any interest in Thailand apart from pussy could learn a lot from his posts.
Was yesterday at Patpong and wanted to try a BJ-Bar, did never before. Went to Rose, only 3 girls and one uglier than the other and one old woman went on my nerves wanted a drink for a 2 minute massage at my hands. Didn't finish my bear and run out.
Stepped in kangaroo, looked much better, about 10 girls around and some didn't looked too bad, guess you can expect real good lookers at places like that. Went with one to a room, just separated by a curtain from the bar. The BJ was not good, she just wanted that I came fast, but again I don't think you can expect a good one here, I just wanted to experience.
Now one question. When I sat down, she just pulled down my Jeans and my pants, that's it. T-Shirt on. She fully dressed.
Is that only in these cheap Bar like that? How is it in the upper class BJ Bars like Dr. BJ, Lollitas, Lollipop?
Do you get naked there? T-Shirt on or off? Jeans just down or put if off? The girls, do they get naked or put the T-Shirt off? I don't want to end up that the girls in one of these places start laughing when I undress because you usually don't do it.
Please help.
By the way, it was 800 BahtYou are a rookie, she had to pull your pants down, didn't know what to do huh? Well to answer your question, it's up to you or whatever turns you on as I'm sure the girls will not object. I do drop my pant and keep my shirt on as there's no need to get naked unless you want FS which is available at most places for a higher price.
At what point in your online flirtations with women does the subject of the location of your sofa usually come up?Ok, we all agree there is no such thing as free pussy.
My apartment gets me laid. Period.
Anybody can lure a girl to thier place once, the key is getting them to come back. If you are living near Khoa San Road with a bunch of hippies and meth addicts walking around or worse like the 24-7 traffic jam that is Nonthaburi, your chances of some repeat action are not that good.
Secondly, if you do get a regular girlfriend, and the only place either one of you can get some privacy is the shitter, the relationship is doomed. I speak from experience. I know guys who think they are so clever because they choose to live in some dump and have money for mongering on a daily basis. Hell, I used to be the same.
Roof top pools, exercise rooms, a couple of flat screens tvs, plenty of parking, and no assholes hanging around will get you more trim in the long run than daily trips to some massage shop or bar.
So have you ever gotten one of these lazy ass hot thai girlss?Sure, they are easy to spot. If a girl can answer you in complete sentences or maybe a paragraph then you know you are dealing with someone with some type of education that they probably did not pay for themselves. Thai public education sucks, especially thier emphasis on English.
Do you write all your life on a forum where men talk about which girl they fucked and for how much? And then want try and prove they have a bigger dick?
The senior Members I met and meet when they are in Bangkok know me, who I really am and not my Internet Persona.
But anyhow, it's always fun to now and then encounter people that are deluded about what Thailand is and think that because they've been here 40 times on holiday and go to RCA and all, understand the country and its inner workings.
Thing is, No Foreigner will ever fully understand this country because they will never be let-in. Even OTH knew that. You see, I have been here a long ass time, living and working and I will never have the pretence to say I know all about Thailand, because I most certainly never will. And you know what? I am completely fine with that.Well stated. I have been here a long time as well. A foreigner will never be accepted into this society. Tolerated at times yes, but accepted and "let-in" as you say never. And, hey for those of us that have lived and worked here for more than a few years, there are many frustrations and sometimes one gets quite fed up, but at the end of the day it is our choice to be here and we have to accept and be at peace with the way things are here, for we "ain't" going to change Thailand. Hopefully though, it will change us for the better. Thais have a great capacity for joy. Best thing about living with a Thai woman is that she wakes up happy almost every morning. Nice!
Re- barfine of rainbow girl who didn't deliver the goods. I agree its unacceptable but its Thailand, do you really want to stiff the girl and have to worry if you going to get beaten up by a bucnch of motosai drivers. Having bad girls is part of the deal. Our safety is much more important!Well, I for one don't agree. If the gal is allowed to get away with bad service she will continue to give it and believe me they know when they are not providing the goods. When I call a session off I always tell the girls in Thai that I am not happy and in turn I don't want her to do anything that she does not want to do, but since she has chosen not to provide adequate service, she will not be getting the full amount agreed upon. I have had them look disappointed, but never had one get really angry. Of course I tell them ahead of time what I expect, which is "we have sex like you see in a sex movie or like you have with your boyfriend," and they agree. So, when they don't provide the onus is on them and they know it.
now one question. when i sat down, she just pulled down my jeans and my pants, that's it. t-shirt on. she fully dressed.
is that only in these cheap bar like that? how is it in the upper class bj bars like dr. bj, lollitas, lollipop?
do you get naked there? t-shirt on or off? jeans just down or put if off? the girls, do they get naked or put the t-shirt off? i don't want to end up that the girls in one of these places start laughing when i undress because you usually don't do it.
please help.
by the way, it was 800 bahtfirstly at a real bj bar you should be able to get a super blow-job, otherwise the staff member that gives a bad one is pretty useless. i have only ever met once at a blow job bar one girl whose bj was rather ordinary and who wouldn't go topless. now i am not a frequent attender either but hopefully only a small percentage of girls are really poor performers even if their looks are very plain.
as for dress, if you are in a private cubicle or curtained off, you can certainly take all your clothes off no problem at all. if you are in a public area, then it depends on the local rules. e. g. in some bars, like star of light, kangaroo, rose, in former times (i haven't been for a long time) you could molest girls and get their clothes off in the bar. sometimes, if they were shy, they would ask to go to back room to actually fuck.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) has very strict rules with no playing up in the bar area downstairs, but once go upstairs then serious playing up is allowed. this fails to make [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) into a high class place. high class and bj bars is a contradiction in terms really.
i recently looked into dr. bj and was pleasantly surprised that the place wasn't too shabby looking at all (well decorated), and the "consultant" lineup were better looking than i expected, without being quite like models of course. aey (annies manager / owner) was managing from about 9pm onward that day. standard of the girls looks in general was significantly better than other blow-job bars i have experienced. most bj bars have maybe just one or two acceptable looking girls that are usually busy. dr bj was better than that. my assessment was that its a quite good set-up and good for a guy needing a quick release. in my case, i received 3 phone calls from the gf during the bj and she was non the wiser that i was playing up. we arranged to meet for dinner at a restaurant in 25 mins time. i was able to get the bj done and make it to the restaurant before her easily, by motorcycle. the girl asked me just how i liked it and she delivered exactly and followed any instructions well. she wasn't quite a deap throat specialist, but i would give high marks anyway. she was willing to get topless and i didn't ask her to take everything off (i have been known to). as i had already had longish sex session earlier, i was feeling a bit lazy, so bbbj with cim was just perfect. i nearly forgot to mention that each cubicle seems to have its own washing up facilities which is better than most places (if not all).
when i am looking for stunners, i will go to other places, but a bj bar can still fit a special purpose when time is very limited, or i need the flexibility to finish up quickly. i feel the owners are looking at making good money and at the same time doing a good social service by providing a way for girls to make good money to support their child or family, without being absolutely top shelf in looks, or maybe that they are unable to sell full sex due to medical issues, etc. the same girls in an ordinary mp giving bj may really struggle to make enough money simply because there are hundreds of mps and countless girls doing that. the competition is immense. but for dr. bj, the serious competition is rather limited.
most of you know i am not an overly critical writer and i don't look for lots of things to criticise. if something really strikes me as bad i would say so though. having seen the worst of the worst before, i would have to say dr. bj would currently be my first choice for a bj bar. if it wasn't good enough, i would have simply left and moved on to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) most likely.
however i am not sure if it provides for exhibitionists. for fucking in the public bar, probably sol is probably going to be the place (i never wanted to go in the cramped back room there).
next time at dr. bj i will probably step up and take more than one girl, to get an even more special service. i like to be licked and sucked concurrently and most girls have only one mouth unfortunately ;) its a lot cheaper than taking two girls out from a gogo bar. :)
Yes, OTH was an old asian hand by virtue of having resided in the Kingdom for many years. He contributed to ISG and had many supporters.
But at the same time, he was too arrogant, and a constant whiner. He finally got caught with his hands in the cookie jar too many times and made himself 'persona non-grata' with the same hands that fed him all these years.OTH was very knowlegable but spoiled it at times with extreme vitriolic negativity that made him appear just a little psycho to me. It was hard to understand how he could tolerated to remain here in Thailand based on what he wrote. The hate seemed strong. I don't claim to know what happened in the end, other than he seemed to be ejected from ISG for his writings going beyond the regulator's boundaries, or did he wish to go himself?
Of course taking money to do a job, doesn't mean have to be an absolute yes man and bow down. We all break the rules, its simply a matter of being careful not to get caught easily.
Phoenix949
05-13-12, 20:09
Big deal. Another of your silly screen shots that mean nothing.
More meaningless drivel to add to your 3, 600 other posts of holier than thou nonsenseWhen you are as long in business as NF is, then you will see it with different eyes. NF is doing this already long time and we all can share from his experience, so please be patiened with your comments on others experienec.
Maybe you not get the advises and comments you like, so better try to communicate in the forum and let us know about your experiences and adventures
GentleBoner
05-13-12, 20:15
Ok, we all agree there is no such thing as free pussy.
My apartment gets me laid. Period.
Anybody can lure a girl to thier place once, the key is getting them to come back. If you are living near Khoa San Road with a bunch of hippies and meth addicts walking around or worse like the 24-7 traffic jam that is Nonthaburi, your chances of some repeat action are not that good.
Secondly, if you do get a regular girlfriend, and the only place either one of you can get some privacy is the shitter, the relationship is doomed. I speak from experience. I know guys who think they are so clever because they choose to live in some dump and have money for mongering on a daily basis. Hell, I used to be the same.
Roof top pools, exercise rooms, a couple of flat screens tvs, plenty of parking, and no assholes hanging around will get you more trim in the long run than daily trips to some massage shop or bar.Why bother with bringing a girl in to spoil that type of paradise with her bloody stinky vag and her dirty feet?
Just stay home alone and swim in your pool and then make sweet love to your sofa cushions.
Traveler1234
05-14-12, 00:29
When everything was going down two years ago, I was a supporter of OTH, and I gave my many reasons to Jackson. During that period I spend hours reviewing all of OTH post and exchanges with other members. Sure he might have been arrogant but who isn't from time to time on this board?FWIW, my opinion of OTH has nothing to do what transpired with the events that led Jackson to ban him from ISG. As I mentioned in my earlier post, he was a major contributor, both with his comments and his many pictures of the more fair skinned non P4p gals he conquered. However, I was just never one of his fans from day 1. And I'm sure many feel the same about me!
Well, for what it's worth, the guy at.
http://www.livingthai.org/
, who, like NicFrenchy I understand, also appears to be able to both speak and read / write Thai, has an approach that sounds much closer to NicFrenchy's than to your friend's. It does not sound like the guy has much experience or interest in bonking fat, ugly, or 25+ year old girls either. So I don't think it's logical to say that NicFrenchy's approach is uterly wrong. Clearly it works well for both him and at least one other person, who are somewhat unique in that they can read / write Thai. The livingthai-guy also indicates that the Thai online-world is full of young girls looking for sex, so I'm currently doing my best to learn Thai.
My own online-dating experience goes a couple years back, but has for the most part been a waste of time. Unfortunately, I do not know Thai, so am limited to the English-language sites. The one or two handful of times I have actually met somebody, I have however always either sexed them the the first night, or when they turned up they also turned up to be somebody I would not want to sex. In all cases where I did sex them the first night, repeat performances were available, so having sex with me on the first night does not seem to have carried any noticeable stigma. I thus see no value in your friends "holding out" on sex until the second time. What is he trying to accomplish by that? Make them think he is gay, scarred of women, or not interested? Or does he spin some fable about how the woman is "too special to him" for him to have sex with her on the first night? Why not take it a step further even, and on the second night, instead of having sex, just lay in bed holding hands and kissing lightly? Perhaps on the third night they could get naked, and on the fourth finally have sex? Really, I don't understand the point of this.Weeweq, I am not surprised it was a waste of time for you. What this guy is saying is basically exactly the same as what I am saying:
Hos words below.
"Where To Meet.
The first meeting is always the most important but it's not a time to wow and impress the girl, it should be very casual. If your the kind of guy that isn't good at getting a girl into bed on the first date then I suggest you make the first meeting a meet and greet and make it as short as possible.
Never and I mean never let her tell you where to meet, always and I can't stress this enough make sure she meets you where you tell her to meet. Thai girls are hopeless at giving directions so if she tells you where to meet it's likely you'll get lost, but the real reason you want to tell her where to meet is because Thai girls like it when a guy takes charge and tells them where and what to do. Decision making is not part of the Thai makeup.
Like I said you don't need to impress the girl on the first date by taking her to some fancy restaurant or spending a mint. It should simply be coffee or a bowl of noodles say hi if your feeling it try to get her home but if you think she won't and needs more time then take her to.
Internet Date to the bedroom.
Thai's can be pretty conservative when they talk about taboo subjects like sex but just because they don't talk about it and act like they don't like it they still do. Saying to a Thai girl that you want to take her home and fuck her brains out isn't going to get you anywhere. BUT the classic 'come back to my place and watch a movie' always works. She knows what's going to happen and if she says 'Just watch a movie right? ' then you still need to be a little conservative and with a smile say 'watch the movie but we may kiss and cuddle but no sex'. She will feel more comfortable about you saying this and will likely go along with you and have sex with you regardless.
Like I mentioned earlier Thai girls like a guy who takes charge so make sure you've got the balls to actually be straight up with her. Don't ask her tell her, see how I said 'come back to my place' it wasn't a question it was an order, give a girl a question and she'll find an answer you don't want to her. Limit the amount of choices she has to make by telling her how it is.
Best of luck guys if you have any questions please use the comments section below"
I doubt very much that Nic reads, writes and speaks Thai. If he did he would of spouted endlessly about it long before now, he is that kind of guy by the look of his posts.
My Internet System.
This is what I wrote on this forum 14 months ago that is still correct now. Follow this and you will unlimted FREE pussy on tap (there absolutely IS such a thing as 100 % free pussy in Bangkok, DEFINITELY).
I have 3 preset message templates. 1st Message, Reply to First Message, Third Message.
If I haven't got the phone number and agreement to meet for coffee by message 3 then I abandon that prospect (there is a right way to ask for the phone number and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
I never talk about sex or anything remotely like that in the messages.
I tell them I don't have time to msn or chat but much prefer to meet in person (there is a right way to ask and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
Arrange to meet for coffee (never lunch or dinner, too big a commitment and too expensive and no easy bail out)
Choose a cheap coffee shop very close (3 minutes walk) to your apartment (Starbucks too expensive if pursuing many leads).
Never think about sex on the first date (unless it is blindingly obvious). Meet for coffee only and be super nice and super polite (I used to aim for sex on first date but the strike rate is low compared to the long term benefits of the patient approach. Aiming for sex on first date is for amateurs and everyone is trying that. Possible 5 years ago but game has changed now).
Tell them you have a really nice apartment and would love to show them your place next time you meet.
Send a thank you sms and other occasional sms messages (but not too many, just have a nice day and so on to stay on the radar).
Next date tell them you are feeling very lazy but would love to see them and invite them to your apartment (there is a right way to ask them to your apartment and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
If they come then its game on (always assume they will be late for all dates by the way, which is why it's important the coffee shop you meet at be near your place. Only stop what you are doing and proceed to rendevous when they have confirmed their arrival).
I have a large sofa with an additional small one seater. When they come to your apartment ensure the one seater is full of cushions so they can't sit there (they will be isolated and you can't get them out of that seat).
Once they are sat on the sofa, you sit on the one seater and they start to relax. Put on music make them laugh a bit talk for a while and so on.
Get up and get them a drink or go to the toilet and then sit on the sofa next to them and hold their hand.
If they don't object out then its game on! If they object then apologise and be super polite and move back to your seat (they love this as they know they are safe in your hands and these are the ones that crop up later as referenced below).
The approximate stats.
Send 20 messages.
Get 10 replies.
From those replies get 6 numbers.
From those 6 numbers meet 4.
2 will come to your apartment.
You will bang 1 that comes to your apartment (but many more later as per below).
Now here is the interesting part and the BEAUTY of Thailand and Thai girls. The above may all sound like a lot of effort but there is a compounding effect that kicks in around the 6 to 8 week mark assuming you have been disciplined in sending 10 to 20 messages per day.
What happens is that you never come on or off a Thai girls radar you simply move up and down their priority list. All of a sudden you will start getting random calls at all hours from girls you met weeks ago that now want to meet and when you tell them fine but only for sex they always agree (that's why they are calling you anyway).
It is more or less a pure numbers game and if you religiously follow the discipline of sending messages every day then in 6 to 8 weeks you will be banging more Thai girls (and I mean office workers and so called real girls) than you know what to do with. Your head will be spinning and you can have sex two to three times a day with different girls. I cannot stress enough that this will NOT happen straight away. It takes discipline and perseverance but the dividends are phenomenal. You simply will not be able to keep up after the 6 to 8 week mark. Fortunately many people haven't worked this out and give up in the first week after not getting laid.
Surprisingly (or actually no surprise at all) the BEST online hunting hours are Monday to Friday from 9am to 5pm (although 3pm to 5pm is prime time). Office girls busy in the office!
I am only interested in so called 'office' or 'real' girls (I call them civilians) and here are some tips for identifying non real girls:
Works in Salon.
Can play pool.
Knows Gullivers on Soi 5.
No Job.
Have Own Business – Question Mark.
Knows Q Bar and Spassos.
Knows Climax in Soi 11.
Under no circumstances do I pay any of the girls and I beleive they would be offended if I did. If they look like the type who want payment or commitment I abandon that prospect.
Hope this helps. Be warned you will need spreadsheets and detailed descriptions on your phone as things spiral out of control (I am 100% serious about that).
Happy Hunting
LittleBigMan
05-14-12, 02:02
FWIW, my opinion of OTH has nothing to do what transpired with the events that led Jackson to ban him from ISG. As I mentioned in my earlier post, he was a major contributor, both with his comments and his many pictures of the more fair skinned non P4p gals he conquered. However, I was just never one of his fans from day 1. And I'm sure many feel the same about me!T1234,
My response to you was not so much on him being banned or that you weren't a fan of his from day 1, and I'm sure many feel the same as you noted and I respect that! My main point was he was being attacked by unknowns for expressing his views that was just recently expressed as " extreme vitriolic negativity " after reviewing his post I never saw his post as being such. He was a normal inidvidual who was living in a different country like so many of us and expressing his opinion as to those experiences. Others who didn't agree with him (maybe not you) instead of dealing with it went complaining or whining to Jackson. He's label a whiner but he never did what those who called him a whiner and went to Jackson. People get frustrated and express them in different ways and when he got backstabbed in his job he expressed them on this forum better that than what I did a few years back using physical force on a Thai and his family because I was so pissed. See! Why is it so hard for others to understand that a foreigner living in Thailand or any other country have the right to speak out even if it is negative. Some seem to firmly believe just because we weren't born here have no right to express anything negative when we are getting backstabbed! OTH, lived and experience life in Thailand some good some bad and many accused him of being less and said he couldn't make it in his own country and to go back!
As you noted he got his hand caught in the cookie jar too many times? He never said anything that required being force out! Remember it takes two to tangle and he tangle the big difference others went running to the Jackson. I could name you a dozen or so members who have posted much more hateful contribution and never had they been pushed aside like OTH.
Agree or disagree, OTH made good contributions and had his fans and non-fans like yourself and it should have been left at that instead a few wanted him banned and got their way! Because of that it was the start of this forum looking the way it does when one logs on and so many members now are complaining to Jackson when they don't hear things exactly the way they want it or the topic isn't just right! Today, the Internet is a great tool but at the same time made so many cowards?
LBM
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 02:09
No need to get your panties in a bunch about it. I wasn't asking for your life story, and by the way I was defending you in case you didn't notice that.Mate, it wasn't for you, I know you didn't say that in a negative way. It was for the Boy and his Germans. Next time I'll make a nice Spreadsheet for him.
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 02:12
OTH never went to Jackson because he couldn't get others to agree with him. Those are the whiners who didn't have the balls to identify themselves instead ask Jackson to do the dirty work for them they attack him personally the first opportunity they got or went to Jackson.Yes, you're absolutely right, would love to know who these whiners were, but we'll never know.
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 02:19
Roof top pools, exercise rooms, a couple of flat screens tvs, plenty of parking, and no assholes hanging around will get you more trim in the long run than daily trips to some massage shop or bar.I think it's 2 different things. I don't really mix regular girls with P4P.
For me, my first 5 years in Thailand were all about P4P, I tried every possible shop and bedded many many girls that you see in the Oilies today. Got tired of that after a while, and a buddy of mine (an Old Asia Hand) introduced me to the Online dating.
Didn't really care for it at first but grew to like the game and came up with a system that got me the results I needed. (no spreadsheets required).
Grew tired of that. Mostly because once I bedded these girls, they wanted to come back but unless they were really good, I did not want to see them again. I don't want a relationship and not looking for a steady GF. I then decided that maybe P4P is better for me.
It's a matter of perspective, but I would not mix the 2.
I think it's 2 different things. I don't really mix regular girls with P4P.
For me, my first 5 years in Thailand were all about P4P, I tried every possible shop and bedded many many girls that you see in the Oilies today. Got tired of that after a while, and a buddy of mine (an Old Asia Hand) introduced me to the Online dating.
Didn't really care for it at first but grew to like the game and came up with a system that got me the results I needed. (no spreadsheets required).
Grew tired of that. Mostly because once I bedded these girls, they wanted to come back but unless they were really good, I did not want to see them again. I don't want a relationship and not looking for a steady GF. I then decided that maybe P4P is better for me.
It's a matter of perspective, but I would not mix the 2.Nic why don't you share with us your exact online system. I mean how do you do it and your success rate. What works, what doesn't etc.
It would be nice to see something useful for others.
For the record I do not know anyone who has been here 5 years plus, who has had success with "civilians" and then goes back to P4P (perhaps with the exception of those now in a serious relationship). I suspect your system targets the WRONG girls which is why you have the issues you mention.
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 02:34
Nic why don't you share with us your exact online system. I mean how do you do it and your success rate. What works, what doesn't etc.
It would be nice to see something useful for others.I am actually impressed with that post of yours! For once you ask the right questions without any spiteful remarks. You asked so nicely that I will share it.
For the record I do not know anyone who has been here 5 years plus, who has had success with "civilians" and then goes back to P4P (perhaps with the exception of those now in a serious relationship). I suspect your system targets the WRONG girls which is why you have the issues you mention.It's all a matter of perspective, where you believe one needs to contact 20 girls to bed 1, I believe one needs to work on the 3 girls one wants to bed, and Thailand being Thailand, your chances are high (well, provided one does not look like Quasimodo).
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 02:43
I mean how do you do it and your success rateOne more thing, Success rate? I never look at things this way. But if I look at your post, message 20 and get 1 to bed, that is a 5% conversion Ratio (that's how you like to look at it right?) I think this is pretty low. In fact if you count all 20 messages go to the 3rd message to get the girl's number, that's 60 messages which brings down the conversion to 1. 6%
At that rate, many here would just go running to Tulip, Mango or the likes.
Different strokes for different folks, there is no BETTER system. The thing is one has to go with what system suits him. It's that simple.
Nic why don't you share with us your exact online system. I mean how do you do it and your success rate. What works, what doesn't etc.
It would be nice to see something useful for others.Why should he share his secrets with a bunch of strangers who will go out and ruin the game? If I find a real hottie I never reveal her identity, especially to an Internet sex forum full of misfits and psycho's.
For the record I do not know anyone who has been here 5 years plus, who has had success with "civilians" and then goes back to P4P (perhaps with the exception of those now in a serious relationship). I suspect your system targets the WRONG girls which is why you have the issues you mention.I've been here six years; am an old man, but still got plenty of sex from young girls on the Thai Love Links site. It's a fun game for awhile. But the fact is that, for me, p4p is better because I don't like lying to women and don't want a girlfriend.
Nic explained it perfectly:
Grew tired of that. Mostly because once I bedded these girls, they wanted to come back but unless they were really good, I did not want to see them again. I don't want a relationship and not looking for a steady GF. I then decided that maybe P4P is better for me.
LuvnLatinas
05-14-12, 03:21
Is that only in these cheap Bar like that? How is it in the upper class BJ Bars like Dr. BJ, Lollitas, Lollipop?
Do you get naked there? T-Shirt on or off? Jeans just down or put if off? The girls, do they get naked or put the T-Shirt off? I don't want to end up that the girls in one of these places start laughing when I undress because you usually don't do it.
Please help.
By the way, it was 800 BahtILT,
Check my review of D at Dr BJ's, yesterday around 1205pm. I think it is on the 3rd or 4th page now. I have also gone with EE and will recommend either one. Strip right down at the Dr's.
Traveler1234
05-14-12, 03:58
T1234, My main point was he was being attacked by unknowns for expressing his views that was just recently expressed as " extreme vitriolic negativity " after reviewing his post I never saw his post as being such. Today, the Internet is a great tool but at the same time made so many cowards? LBMLBM.
Agree with you on two things:
1. Many lurkers on ISG that never contribute but always complain.
2. Equal number of cowards who back stab.
But remember, OTH was warned by Jackson and they did trade emails / pm. OTH for whatever reason decided to fall on the sword. Regardless, before he was banned, he had already decided to leave the Kingdom. Giotto and a few others know the truth. But listen, OTH is gone. Let's leave the past behind us bro!
Weeweq, I am not surprised it was a waste of time for you. What this guy is saying is basically exactly the same as what I am saying:
I doubt very much that Nic reads, writes and speaks Thai. If he did he would of spouted endlessly about it long before now, he is that kind of guy by the look of his posts.I don't really want to get into a silly discussion on how to interpret what some other guy says, but I've enjoyed that guys site for a while, and if you read a little more of it, including his references to misc. Thail-language dating sites, I think you too will see that he is definitely a "sex on the first date" kind of guy.
Anyway, it seems you have found a system that works for you and which you seem happy with, and which you have not minded to share with us here. My respect for that.
I can see your point about the language abilities of the poster in question, but will give him the benefits of at least my doubt.
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 04:14
LBM.
Agree with you on two things:
1. Many lurkers on ISG that never contribute but always complain.
2. Equal number of cowards who back stab.
But remember, OTH was warned by Jackson and they did trade emails / pm. OTH for whatever reason decided to fall on the sword. Regardless, before he was banned, he had already decided to leave the Kingdom. Giotto and a few others know the truth. But listen, OTH is gone. Let's leave the past behind us bro!To close the OTH Subject and be fair to Jackson, he Did reinstate OTH Back to full member but OTH asked to be removed, in the end, it was His choice.
My Internet System.
This is what I wrote on this forum 14 months ago that is still correct now. Follow this and you will unlimted FREE pussy on tap (there absolutely IS such a thing as 100 % free pussy in Bangkok, DEFINITELY).
I have 3 preset message templates. 1st Message, Reply to First Message, Third Message.
If I haven't got the phone number and agreement to meet for coffee by message 3 then I abandon that prospect (there is a right way to ask for the phone number and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
I never talk about sex or anything remotely like that in the messages.
I tell them I don't have time to msn or chat but much prefer to meet in person (there is a right way to ask and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
Arrange to meet for coffee (never lunch or dinner, too big a commitment and too expensive and no easy bail out)
Choose a cheap coffee shop very close (3 minutes walk) to your apartment (Starbucks too expensive if pursuing many leads).
Never think about sex on the first date (unless it is blindingly obvious). Meet for coffee only and be super nice and super polite (I used to aim for sex on first date but the strike rate is low compared to the long term benefits of the patient approach. Aiming for sex on first date is for amateurs and everyone is trying that. Possible 5 years ago but game has changed now).
Tell them you have a really nice apartment and would love to show them your place next time you meet.
Send a thank you sms and other occasional sms messages (but not too many, just have a nice day and so on to stay on the radar).
Next date tell them you are feeling very lazy but would love to see them and invite them to your apartment (there is a right way to ask them to your apartment and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
If they come then its game on (always assume they will be late for all dates by the way, which is why it's important the coffee shop you meet at be near your place. Only stop what you are doing and proceed to rendevous when they have confirmed their arrival).
I have a large sofa with an additional small one seater. When they come to your apartment ensure the one seater is full of cushions so they can't sit there (they will be isolated and you can't get them out of that seat).
Once they are sat on the sofa, you sit on the one seater and they start to relax. Put on music make them laugh a bit talk for a while and so on.
Get up and get them a drink or go to the toilet and then sit on the sofa next to them and hold their hand.
If they don't object out then its game on! If they object then apologise and be super polite and move back to your seat (they love this as they know they are safe in your hands and these are the ones that crop up later as referenced below).
The approximate stats.
Send 20 messages.
Get 10 replies.
From those replies get 6 numbers.
From those 6 numbers meet 4.
2 will come to your apartment.
You will bang 1 that comes to your apartment (but many more later as per below).
Now here is the interesting part and the BEAUTY of Thailand and Thai girls. The above may all sound like a lot of effort but there is a compounding effect that kicks in around the 6 to 8 week mark assuming you have been disciplined in sending 10 to 20 messages per day.
What happens is that you never come on or off a Thai girls radar you simply move up and down their priority list. All of a sudden you will start getting random calls at all hours from girls you met weeks ago that now want to meet and when you tell them fine but only for sex they always agree (that's why they are calling you anyway).
It is more or less a pure numbers game and if you religiously follow the discipline of sending messages every day then in 6 to 8 weeks you will be banging more Thai girls (and I mean office workers and so called real girls) than you know what to do with. Your head will be spinning and you can have sex two to three times a day with different girls. I cannot stress enough that this will NOT happen straight away. It takes discipline and perseverance but the dividends are phenomenal. You simply will not be able to keep up after the 6 to 8 week mark. Fortunately many people haven't worked this out and give up in the first week after not getting laid.
Surprisingly (or actually no surprise at all) the BEST online hunting hours are Monday to Friday from 9am to 5pm (although 3pm to 5pm is prime time). Office girls busy in the office!
I am only interested in so called 'office' or 'real' girls (I call them civilians) and here are some tips for identifying non real girls:
Works in Salon.
Can play pool.
Knows Gullivers on Soi 5.
No Job.
Have Own Business – Question Mark.
Knows Q Bar and Spassos.
Knows Climax in Soi 11.
Under no circumstances do I pay any of the girls and I beleive they would be offended if I did. If they look like the type who want payment or commitment I abandon that prospect.
Hope this helps. Be warned you will need spreadsheets and detailed descriptions on your phone as things spiral out of control (I am 100% serious about that).
Happy HuntingIf I wanted to put that much effort into it I would have stayed in the US.
My system-
1. Read ISG and others reports on Oily gals.
2. Go to Tulip, Mango, or Snow White (will try Cherry in a few weeks).
3. Choose girl.
4. Finish twice in 90 minutes.
5. Go have lunch.
6. Return home and nap.
Done!
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 05:13
was yesterday at patpong and wanted to try a bj-bar, did never before.you should have done a bit more research here (using the search function). the only decent bj place in patpong is sol (the star of light).
here's my first s. o. l experience from 2006:
here i am walking towards sol and one thing strikes me right away. the ladies are all dressed in white. being a monday and all, i would have thought that they would sport the yellow shirt in tribute to his majesty the king. the second thing that strikes me is that there are about 8 or 9 ladies outside, eating, chatting, applying makeup. and oh my god! 5 of the 9 girls were solid 7 or 8's (in my book anyways). what a very pleasant surprise. anyhow, i go inside and there's already a man there. mid 50s i would say.
as soon as i enter, he decides to move and goes to the bathroom area.
i order a drink and take a few sips, next thing you know, the man comes out. 5 minutes! undressing and re-dressing included. damn, that's big time skills points for the performer.
it is my first visit here but i already feel "at home". i can't describe the feeling, i feel relaxed. of course, this only will make my experience better.
so i am sitting at the bar sipping, taking my time and no less than 6 girls come see me. rub my dick and balls, send me an inviting wink. i decide to take an older lady (she says she's 33 but i would give her 38 easily) with big hooters and we go in the bathroom (i'm not much of an exhibitionist so the couch is not for me. not yet anyway).
there is a girl in the bathroom and when she sees me, she clears her stuff ready to leave. but before doing so, she rubs my balls and winks (i'm starting to think this is a sol trademark lol).
i undress and sit in the little corner area, my girl gets right down to business (no cleaning of little nic like they do at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)) , she hasn't even been sucking for a 10 seconds that a couple of girls come inside and offer a helping hand (or mouth) but i decline the offer. the bar is not busy but none of the girls stick around, they leave the bathroom. my girl (sorry, as usual am very bad with names.) starts slowly and rubs, licks, sucks. all is perfect. already a good 10 minutes have passed and she took her top off already starting a nice tit fuck, she is very well endowed and has nice long nipples.
15 minutes and she now sucks like a vacuum cleaner, to be honest, i am amazed at the speed at which she is sucking up and down my shaft. it feels weird but good.
20 minutes have passed and she starts to get tired. she now handles my dick as if it is a deodorant spray bottle. you know, except it's not written "shake well before use" on my dick lol. you guessed it, she gives me the fastest hj i've ever experienced and after a few more minutes of tit fuck, she resumes her "hoover" technique.
it's been a good 25mn already and at this point i suggest a second lady join us because i don't think that i'll be able to finish if we pursue the "one on one".
in the split of a second, my lady gets completely naked and starts dfk while another stats to suck me off. it feels good, i am being attended to by 2 ladies. one taking care of little nic and the other taking care of big nic. i have tits in my mouth, fingers up a warm pussy and getting a very skillful bj.
not even 5 minutes and i explode in #2's mouth. #1 want a piece and sucks my cum covered pecker.
i go over the sink and start to wash it and it's all red. #1 lady comes over and helps me wash it. she suggests next time i come and fuck her instead of a blowjob. (i make a mental note of that).
so i'm all cleaned up and exit the bathroom, sit on couch 2 and get the ladies to massage my back a little, we chit chat and ladies #1 & #2 want to know where i live so that they can come see me tonight.
i sit there for a while and think about the "magic" these girls just did to me. they put a big smile on my face and that smile can't seem to go away. i probably look stupid smiling at everything. but i feel great.
total damage : 1560 (2 ladies and 2 drinks)
tipped 200 each on top (not sure if that's enough but they seemed happy).
another lady said she was jealous because the girls got to suck a "boy" so young. (i don't know if i should be happy or offended by that. i'm not 18 anymore lol).
i will definitely go back and visit sol again. and rather sooner than later. this place is highly addictive.
not so much the seedy theécor and ambience. but you have to give credit where credit's due: the girls make the place what it is.
Tony Hoeprano
05-14-12, 05:52
My Internet System.
Knows Q Bar and Spassos.
Knows Climax in Soi 11.You can include Bed Supperclub too. Well, you might as well include entire the entire Soi 11 as its known as a place where the rich falang hang out at. Some Thai girls have a special skill set where they can smell the big money falang miles away in her 3500 baht / month condo like a shark smells blood in the water.
BTW- Interesting that you use templates, that can save time. I generally look at their profile and go off of that and try to say something funny or witty. The hotter the chick the more daring I'll be because these gals get a zillion of messages of "hi you so beautiful" and crap like that.
If I wanted to put that much effort into it I would have stayed in the US.
My system-
1. Read ISG and others reports on Oily gals.
2. Go to Tulip, Mango, or Snow White (will try Cherry in a few weeks).
3. Choose girl.
4. Finish twice in 90 minutes.
5. Go have lunch.
6. Return home and nap.
Done!Nothing wrong with that! But sometimes the hunt is as thrilling as the prize. The mentality and mindset one has to go on these dates is actually not to go expecting to get laid, but just to have fun and make sure the girl has a good time and everything else falls into place. Not always but sometimes. Tbh, if I had the bankroll of a Tiger Woods, I'd buy me one of those Nissan GTR and plush condo and have me a nice, steady rotation of g-club girls. Since I'm a loser, I have to strengthen my seduction skills and sell these girls dreams LOL
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 06:12
Since I'm a loser, I have to strengthen my seduction skills and sell these girls dreams LOLYou really had me laugh there! Hehe
AsiaTraveler2
05-14-12, 07:23
OTH was very knowlegable but spoiled it at times with extreme vitriolic negativity that made him appear just a little psycho to me. It was hard to understand how he could tolerated to remain here in Thailand based on what he wrote. The hate seemed strong. I don't claim to know what happened in the end, other than he seemed to be ejected from ISG for his writings going beyond the regulator's boundaries, or did he wish to go himself?
Of course taking money to do a job, doesn't mean have to be an absolute yes man and bow down. We all break the rules, its simply a matter of being careful not to get caught easily.Wow! Looks like I missed some major drama in my time away. Was not a big fan of OTH, but there are a lot worse than him. I just always had the feeling that he was not a happy person. He chose a path, got locked into that path, and did not have a way out. I hope he finds what he is looking for. My longest stretch away from the LOS, but looking forward to getting back to my old schedule of annual visits. Seems like not too much has changed on the surface.
AT2
AsiaTraveler2
05-14-12, 07:58
Are G-Clubs like Forte, Pent, Sherbet worth the while for mongering action, or is it a keep-you-company kinda place?
Looks fun thoughNick,
I enjoyed the G-Clubs, during my visits. I got bashed for spending too much money, but I thought it was a great change of pace. One of the ISG members took me to Pent, for my first experience at a G-Club many years ago. Not set up for mongering action from what I could tell, but met up with a couple of girls from Pent after getting their digits. I was a frequent visitor to LOS for many years, but I don't consider myself an expert on G-Clubs, so maybe someone else can chime in.
AT2
I am actually impressed with that post of yours! For once you ask the right questions without any spiteful remarks. You asked so nicely that I will share it.
It's all a matter of perspective, where you believe one needs to contact 20 girls to bed 1, I believe one needs to work on the 3 girls one wants to bed, and Thailand being Thailand, your chances are high (well, provided one does not look like Quasimodo).Did I miss something? Is that your system? If so, a bit of a letdown. Also your stats section leaves a bit to be desired."Chances are high"? I guess 1 out of 3 would be "low" and 3 out of 3 would be "guaranteed", so I guess you mean you'd get 2 out of 3? Seems a bit vague and unscientific compared to Bowerboy's. Maybe you meant to write up this system later or something but if this is it, doesn't seem like what I'd call a system, more just a generality with no supporting detail, testing out.
Tony Hoeprano
05-14-12, 08:44
At least the Indians have a chance with her LOL
No money no honey and friend. 55555==
Stop ask my msn or skype!
Becoz I not use ok, thank you.
And don't contect me black guy,
Because I hate,
Thank you
GentleBoner
05-14-12, 08:47
At least the Indians have a chance with her LOL.
No money no honey and friend. 55555==
Stop ask my msn or skype!
Becoz I not use ok, thank you.
And don't contect me black guy,
Because I hate,
Thank youLogged in my spreadsheet. Created a new column entitled "Hates black guys y/n".
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 09:04
Logged in my spreadsheet. Created a new column entitled "Hates black guys y/n".LMAO. Shit I almost pissed myself.
How about this one from Craiglist: I am sure a crapload of losers contacted her:
Holiday Time. 32.
Date: 2012-05-13, 2:58PM ICT.
Reply to: crvmh-3012607413@pers.craigslist.org
Hello single guys,
Are there anyone free this month? I am looking for a gentleman to pamper me. I would love to do some trips either escape to the beach or mountain explorer.
If you are single and travel alone who want someone to join you trip. I would love to travel with you. Although I am very down to earth person, I expect a good treat while we travel.
I do not like a cheap guy because the living cost is already cheap here. You would be able to take care our expenses.
The ideal of travelling is just like we are out dating. You are single as well as mine. We travel and enjoy our company. If we are click, we may continue our relationship. If not we remain friendship.
Kindly send your pic and detilas of yourself. I will do the same. Prefer tall guy below 50
It's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests.
PostingID: 3012607413
Did I miss something? Is that your system? If so, a bit of a letdown. Also your stats section leaves a bit to be desired."Chances are high"? I guess 1 out of 3 would be "low" and 3 out of 3 would be "guaranteed", so I guess you mean you'd get 2 out of 3? Seems a bit vague and unscientific compared to Bowerboy's. Maybe you meant to write up this system later or something but if this is it, doesn't seem like what I'd call a system, more just a generality with no supporting detail, testing out.Nic I wouldn't normally press the point like this but since you love to big note yourself so much why not share your system (or if not a system then tell us how you do it).
Telling us what you do is not exactly revealing state secrets. Also don't say you can't be bothered because clearly you can be bothered to write a lot of stuff on the forum.
I never had any girls hanging on or girls that I didn't want to see. And I never lied to any of them. The exit system is extremely simple. You simply say that you like group sex and will she sleep with you and another girlfriend together. Clearly a no lose situation for obvious reasons, if she says no then she will never contact you again and if she says yes then of course you end up a winner.
I find the thrill of the chase much more exciting than paying a prostitute for her services but each to their own. And I still do pay prostitutes for their services by the way and am not morally opposed or anything like that.
So come on, share some useful info.
LuvnLatinas
05-14-12, 13:55
Monday is a Mon day. LOL. After spending a few hours at MBK Mall and finding out what I wanted was the same price back home I said f*k it and decided I would head to Soi 24. I got off the BTS at the right station and in a few minutes was spinning on my heels trying to decide – EZ Massage, Pink Massage or Mango Massage. I didn't have a wish list with me but I remembered more girls from the Mango website so into Mango I went. The lady at the desk explained the prices for me and I said I wanted 1. 5 hours oil massage. I had a look through the book while glancing at the girls sitting on the couches and decided on Mon.
Mon does look a lot like her pics except she is tanned, not white. They whitened the pics of her a lot. She was dressed just like any other girl you would see on the street or in the mall, and if you saw her would think 'ooh, she's a cutie'. Pretty face and she has that 'girl next door' look. She didn't speak a lot of English but tried and always had a smile in her face.
Up the stairs we go and into the room. Small but clean, shower, single sized bed, and ac. I had a quick shower to get rid of the sweat, and Mon had a quick one as well when she back with her 'kit'.
Mon stripped down and proceeded to give me a really, really, good massage. It felt so good I almost didn't want her to stop. Yeah right! She would tease my balls during the massage, running her hands down my ass and giving them a good feel. She asked if I wanted body to body massage and I didn't want to deny myself of that pleasure so I said yes. I turned around and grabbed the oil from her and told her I would oil her body. I put some oil on my hands and various locations on her, then started slowly rubbing it all over her nice little body. Her tits are small and her nipples came erect as my tongue ran over them. I worked my way down her body, my hands trailing, continuing to spread the oil. No DATY and man did she have a hairy pussy. I haven't seen that much hair around a pussy in years! I could have flossed all my teeth at once! LOL. Once oiled up she put me on my back and started slowly rubbing herself all over me. She then grabbed (insert name of cock here) and gave me a decent BJ. Could have been longer but I wasn't going to complain as she slipped the condom on and put my cock in her. Went through all the usual positions and after all was said and done she cleaned me up in the shower, making sure to get all the oil off us both.
All in all a great massage and good sex. More GFE like than pornstar like.
Date of encounter: 14 May 2012.
Name: Mon.
Age: 20.
Languages: Thai, a little English but does try.
Making Contact
How did I find her: Mango Massage website.
Link:
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/ladies/
Did she match her pics: Yes but her skin has been whitened a lot.
Percentage Photoshop: 25%
Was she on time: In house.
Neighborhood: Soi 24.
Does she or doesn't she
Anal: Didn't try or ask.
Oral w or w / o: w / o but could have been longer in time.
Kissing: Yes, decent kisser.
Any restrictions: don't know.
How would you rate her
Face: 7 pretty face, young looking and always smiling.
Tits: 6, small and she liked having them licked.
Ass: 6, spinner type butt.
Body: 7, all parts proportional to her size. A good looking girl.
Level of Service
Enthusiastic or Business-Like: Enthusiastic and always smiling. Gives a great massage!
Clock Watcher: not in the least.
Her strong point: loved her massage.
Her weak point: BJ not very long.
$$$ & Time: 2100 baht plus tip. 1.5 hours.
Overall Rating of Encounter: 7, great massage and good sex.
Do you recommend: Yes, good GFE.
AmericanThief
05-14-12, 15:24
All this talk about Pick up and game is interesting, and I've also been successful at seducing girls I met online but what I really want is to be good at is day game. I failed every time when opening a set during the day.
Have you guys been able to close a girl you met in a mall, supermarket, 7-11 or any non pick up places like the subway etc?
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 16:01
Nic I wouldn't normally press the point like this but since you love to big note yourself so much why not share your system (or if not a system then tell us how you do it).You're being so nice these days that I said I would. Just need the time to do it is all. I have a job so long reports are not for weekdays. I usually rant from my mobile phone so writing reports with that is not easy.
I will get around to it.
But mind you, I't now a system perse, I'm not german so no spreadsheet, statistics and all.
NicFrenchy
05-14-12, 16:10
I failed every time when opening a set during the day.
Have you guys been able to close a girl you met in a mall, supermarket. 7-11 or any non pick up places like the subway etc?Hehehehehe you made me laugh so hard."Opening a SET" wow, that goes wayyy back to my days watching that pickup show, what was it called? With that tall dude and his weird hat? Pickup something. I liked that show, was very entertaining to watch but they canceled it after 2 seasons? Right? Guess not enough desperate dudes watching that crap.
Thai girls are not so difficult to approach when you know how to. It's different than in Europe or the US. I have been successful picking up girls in the BTS using the Old Map technique. So basic and yet pretty efficient.
Get a map, and ask a girl coming out the BTS "sorry but I have a meeting here in 30mn, I have to wait in a coffee shop, do you know one around?" (show her the map, this way it will look like she is helping you with directions and will not make her feel uncomfortable in the eyes of other Thais). Once she tells you where the coffee is, tell her that she is very kind and you would really like if she can join you for a coffee. This has worked for me (still pretty hard as the "yes" factor is low but worth trying)
SMILE, SMILE, SMILE, talk slowly and with a low tone of voice... and SMILE
I also picked up at the gym, I mean that is the easiest of all places. Girls are so happy to see a real guy there (non-gay I mean).
Tony Hoeprano
05-14-12, 17:19
Hehehehehe you made me laugh so hard."Opening a SET" wow, that goes wayyy back to my days watching that pickup show, what was it called? With that tall dude and his weird hat? Pickup something. I liked that show, was very entertaining to watch but they canceled it after 2 seasons? Right? Guess not enough desperate dudes watching that crap.That was Mystery. He goes by the Mystery Method. There was a pretty good book written about the entire loser PUA community, how they would transform nerds into Casanovas.
LittleBigMan
05-14-12, 17:23
To close the OTH Subject and be fair to Jackson, he Did reinstate OTH Back to full member but OTH asked to be removed, in the end, it was His choice.Yes, I will let the subject close but. Before I do. I would just like to close with. When a guy gets blind sided and never should have been warned or moderated? So much he was accused of and although Jackson did offer to reinstate him in the end the damage was already done! There are something you just can't undo? The bridge was burn behind him there was no turning back and that is and was the true! As noted the man is gone I for one wish him well wherever he is?
LBM
Tony Hoeprano
05-15-12, 03:33
Indians-try telling a girl on camfrog you are indian!You trying to get FREE?
NicFrenchy
05-15-12, 03:57
Do you recommend: Yes, good GFE.Great Report, you forgot her Shoe size. LOL
NicFrenchy
05-15-12, 03:59
You trying to get FREE?Looks like all this talk about Non-Pros got our H444 fired up to try his luck. Next thing you know, he's going to come here and tell people they're stupid to P4P when a lot of regular girls are available for Free. Now that would be creme-fucking-brulee. Hahaha
LuvnLatinas
05-15-12, 04:45
#$at$% knew I forgot something! LOL.
Have you guys been able to close a girl you met in a mall, supermarket, 7-11 or any non pick up places like the subway etc?Just last week I rushed to get on a train before the door closes, got on, saw a girl I liked. I hoped to make eye contact but she never looked my way. Only one stop to Siam where I would transfer to Sukhumvit line and good odds she would get off too. Sure enough we both get off, followed her to the escalator, walked besides her and simply said "I think you are really pretty". That started off some small talk, introductions, missed train, and then off for a drink. This was around 4 in the afternoon. Too easy I thought so asked what she does in BKK. A dancer at Insomnia. I'm thinking goal! Drinks led to dinner led to the condo. After a couple drinks she admitted that she really wasn't a dancer. Just goes to Insomnia for "work". Good enough. So maybe this encounter really doesn't count.
I have had "real" success at food stands of all places. Walking on the sidewalk to MBK, I was curious to try one of those fried dough balls covered in sesame seeds. Pretty good. As soon as I bit in to it a Thai lady next to me looks and proclaims "my favorite, do you like it" in great English. Started talking, she's going to MBK too. Turns out she lives in Toronto, visiting BKK (her home) , exchanged numbers, met for dinner that night. She was a typically conservative Thai lady the 1st night out. Second night we go out again, back to the room, she asks to use the bathroom with her purse, and comes out in lingerie. This after proclaiming that she is not going to sleep with me. I've since learned she lives with a guy in Canada.
My favorite encounter involved yet another Thai sweet / desert. I had no idea what these deserts were. Like a coconut cream wrapped in banana leaf. I walk up to a good looking lady buying one at a street stall and I ask "what are they?". After looking at me like I was from another planet, she hands one to me and says "Here, try one", again in great English. She was curious what I (a farang) was doing in this farang free part of town eating street food. We talked, she took me in her car to a nice place for a drink, exchanged numbers, agreed to met again. Not even a parting goodbye kiss."too soon" she said. This young lady was a flight attendant for one of the larger Asian airlines. Low thirties in age, young daughter, Thai husband recently left her for a younger lady, her parents live with her in her home. A classic Thai woman, she was very cautious with me. After a few dates we closed the deal, traveled down south, spent more time together together. I messed up with this lady and still regret it. I got sidetracked by a young Isaan girl (an employee at my hotel). Live and learn.
I met my current fancy in the checkout line of a grocery store.
Still looking.
This time decided to go hunting, first in thermae, I'm not sure about the name but it's a place for Korean, this means they are used to small tools and big money. Could not find anything for my taste, either too professional or not so cute, anyway the request was 2k st. 4k lt, short time means whenever you have finished and lt all night, provided that you make clear you are going to pay after.
On the road again found a nice looking, called Mam. 32 yo, not a stunner but nice smile and not professional, the contract was signed for *1, 5k / 2 times.
Back in the room she showered me and her, on the bed she was very nice always smiling a part from when she could not, it's impolite to smile and talk when the mouth is full.
I let her do the job until the end and she accomplished her task with enthusiasm, then talking about the usual things. Time to recover and let her start again work me out with the tongue before covering and starting all different ways, I love doggy so this was the way to the end.
Talking again and relaxing on the bed, she is a good company and not time looking.
Body 7.
BBBJ 7 no cim.
Fk 7.
Second channel not asked.
I'll post a picture later in the gallery section.
Have the contact in case you like to taste her and give us a feedback, pm me
You're being so nice these days that I said I would. Just need the time to do it is all. I have a job so long reports are not for weekdays. I usually rant from my mobile phone so writing reports with that is not easy.
I will get around to it.
But mind you, I't now a system perse, I'm not german so no spreadsheet, statistics and all.Ah ok, now I see. You should have mentoined that you would post it later, I made the wrong assumption that the system was contained in that same post. Look forward to hearing it.
Different guys have different styles of pursuit. I actually tend to be closer to NF's style. The idea of having to keep track of all these different girls, getting messages from them all the time, keeping it all straight, not to mention the things you would be required to say (I guess you can't just be open and honest about things if they start to ask whether you are seeing anyone, or what you're objective is).
But in terms of pursuit strategies, I notice there's some guys who like quantity over quality. They prefer to be with plenty of girls, getting their fun as frequently as possible, and to do that means setting the bar lower for the girls in terms of looks, etc. Then there's others who aren't into it unless the girls are especially hot, who consider it a waste of time to go after many of the ones the quantity guy goes with. They see him with one of those girls and think,"What does he see in her? I'd never go with that girl." But we all know which guy is having more sex. Different strokes.
NicFrenchy
05-15-12, 09:34
Ah ok, now I see. You should have mentoined that you would post it later, I made the wrong assumption that the system was contained in that same post. Look forward to hearing it.In that post I was quoting the system of Bowerboy, not mine.
I will post my way later int he week.
LuvnLatinas
05-15-12, 11:56
Monday is a Mon day. LOL.So I don't know if I would say I was a dumb ass or a stubborn ass LOL. I was out wandering around and found myself near Soi 24 so I decided to go and check out Pink Massage. Now I usually make a 'wish list' from the website but I hadn't planned on doing an early session today so I had no list. Into Pink I go, the mamasan has a big smile and is talking a mile a minute in thai. She put a price list on the counter and I pointed out what I wanted. 2 hour massage, regular room. She then put a book on the counter and I started to flip through it, seeing some girls I remembered from the website. I asked if I could see the girls in person but with no thai language skills I didn't get the point across. I ended up picking Ploy out of the book, the mamasan went to the wall of mirrors and opened a sliding panel for Ploy to come out. Out comes Ploy, dressed nice, looking good, but no smile and didn't look happy. Uh oh I'm thinking, this doesn't look good. A brief 'sawadee', then she started to the stairs motioning me to follow. I did not get a good vibe at all and thought about canceling her and asking for someone else. This is where I don't know if I was being a 'the' or a 'SA', as I quickly decided I wanted to see if I could somehow turn Ploy around and it would get better.
The room was fairly small, single bed, small shower with a round wood tub to stand in. Ploy showered us up, not very talkative and I thought maybe she didn't speak English. I discovered later she speaks decent English when she wants to. We got on the bed and she did give me a decent massage but it seemed mechanical. I tried to draw out some conversation but ended up thinking 'screw it' and just relaxed and enjoyed the massage. I saw her check her watch on the table beside the bed and asked how much time was left. 'Little more 1 hour' she replied. I said ok and flipped so she would massage my front a bit and then do the 'boom boom'. While she massaged my front she asked where I was from and I told her. She said 'you not American? ' I said no. She said she didn't like American because the always try to fuck the ass. She also didn't like Indian. I'm thinking 'this isn't something you should be saying to a customer' but her demeanor seemed to get better and she was friendlier. She started massaging my balls, the dick was hard, and it was time to pick up the pace of this encounter.
Her BBBJ was ok but she kept stopping and starting. I told her not to stop so much and she did for a minute or 2, then back to her technique again. After a bit when she stopped I sat up, grabbed a condom, and got her on top. Only a couple of minutes passed and she started getting into it. She was grinding round and round, up and down, some doggie moving back and forth against me, and side by side. I pulled out and popped on her tits while she fingered her box and my balls.
Jumping into the shower she did a good job of cleaning me up, all the while chatting away in decent English. Why she wasn't like this at the start I have no idea. What I thought would be a crappy session turned out ok in the end. Not good or great, but ok. So I think I lucked out and was only a stubborn ass LOL.
Date of encounter: 15 May 2012.
Name: Ploy. &12503; &12525; &12452; &12385; &12419; &12435; – 11th down on website.
Age: 22.
Languages: Thai, decent English if she wants to.
Making Contact
How did you find her: at the MP.
Link:
http://pinkmassage2.com/girls.htm
Did she match her pics: very little.
Percentage Photoshop: 60, skin whitened about 20, face changed to look younger, tits enhanced on pic – they are not that 'full'
Was she on time: on location.
Neighborhood: Soi 24.
Does she or doesn't she
Anal: don't know.
Oral w or w / o: w / o but not that great, always stopping and starting.
Kissing: didn't try.
Any restrictions:
How would you rate her
Face: 6, about an average looking girl, not a dog but not a stunner.
Tits: 5. 5, tits were ok but nothing like in her pic.
Ass: 7, butt gets a good mark, nice not saggy.
Body: 6, overall an ok body, good but nothing to separate her from others.
Level of Service
Enthusiastic or Business-Like: business-like at first, better once the dick was in her.
Clock Watcher: Looked at her watch once.
Her strong point: nothing really stood out.
Her weak point: started out very business-like, no smile, totally professional.
$$$ & Time: 2470 baht 2 hours.
Overall Rating of Encounter: 6, I can only give a 6 due to her actions at the start.
Do you recommend: no, didn't get a good vibe from the get-go even though it got better
NicFrenchy
05-15-12, 15:33
Nice review of Ploy, For me at PINK it's very simple: It's Keaw or nothing.
Juggie2006
05-15-12, 18:20
Brothers, I will be staying at hotel four seasons as I will be attending a conference. As this is my first time alone to Bangkok, I need advise as to whether the place is near any great entertainment areas. I have tried to find information on this hotel from this forum but was not able to do so. There is far too much info on the bars / areas and I am totally confused. Assuming that I don't have time to experiment, whats the best option for me to get a nice girl and have a meaningful 2 hour GFE session! I don't want to go too far from the hotel.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Juggie
Member #4387
05-15-12, 20:21
Bowerboy had a soulution in his earlier post here about suggest group sex to get rid of a lady (or if she into it it is a win win sit.).
I have been e-mailing and chatting (msn) with a girl working in a restaurant in Soi 11. A nice little stunner from Rayong. We had some fun times together and she is into everything (had to work quite a lot to enter the backdoor but that is history now). Lately I get the feeling though that she has become rather serious about our situation and that is not a good thing in my book. I thought I might, upon my arrival the 17. May, try to scare her away about suggestion a 3some. I even asked her if she had a friend willing to participate in such an event.
I got a sms from her now and her manager (also a cute little stunner that I have seen and talked to on previous occations) will participate on Thursday before they start working. Suites me fine as I have an early morning arrival. OMG so it did not scare her at all but I feel like a bit successful despite my initial wish. Well I think I might end this at a later stage then.
Kamagra here we go.
Brothers, I will be staying at hotel four seasons as I will be attending a conference. As this is my first time alone to Bangkok, I need advise as to whether the place is near any great entertainment areas. I have tried to find information on this hotel from this forum but was not able to do so. There is far too much info on the bars / areas and I am totally confused. Assuming that I don't have time to experiment, whats the best option for me to get a nice girl and have a meaningful 2 hour GFE session! I don't want to go too far from the hotel.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
JuggieIf you do not want to venture far Spasso might work for you. It is in the lower level of the Hyatt, almost next door to the 4 Seasons, and less than a five minute walk. It's a disco type place but 80+ percent of the girls in there are working. Some nice and some not so nice. Really depends on who shows up. Most girls will ask for a lot of money. 5K or so, but are usually flexible. Most ladies show up after 11.
FreebieFan
05-16-12, 02:02
Was in Phuket, celebrating the fact Man City won (I'm not a fan but I am in the anybody but MUFC camp ). That led to a few hearty beers followed by a lady from one of the many bars there.
Woke up to find said lady licking my balls rather nicely, but I noticed I'm already late so that curtailed that activity.
Headed to airport, arrived in BKK mid afternoon.
One of my old favourites, Ms G arrived in hotel about 30 mins later. Ms G is Thai, married, mid 20's with a husband working in Singapore. He doesn't seem to visit often but does provide Ms G and daughter with a nice apartment near Plaza Athenee. Anyways Ms G drove to my hotel and then joined me. After lots of dancing around we ended up in bed (yes honey, just for a nap, LOL) , and from there to bonking. I see her every BKK trip I have. I think she's quite lonely as she doesn't work Anyways who wouldn't want a young slim tall married Thai lady in their bed. Oh and when I said tall, omitted the fact that she arrived wearing very tall high heels. I think she ended up at 6ft, and my Chinese colleagues sitting in the lobby were suitably impressed. Oh an of course Ms G was free.
Anyways, she arrived at 3 and left at 6 as I had a busy agenda.
I wasnt sure who I would be meeting at 11pm that night, as one girl I know had said she was trying to travel from Petchaburi but had to do overtime at work.
Another was a definate. And the massage girl I had from 6-7pm had indicated she would be very happy to join me at 11 for drinks and evening joy.
Anyways the massage was in the normal curtained off place. Nothing special but the girl was cute but as all other curtained areas were occupied she wouldn't play. No matter. I said maybe we meet at 11.
Off for drinks in Nana. Always enjoy Spankies, and Erotica. Like the small titties on the girls in Erotica.
From there I realised I needed some release but didn't want to go thru the whole massage again (Hi I'm here for a massage but can you give me a nice oily HJ instead now!). Anyways found Lolliop for a 15 min blow which was fine, rather pedestrian and run of the mill but just what I needed.
When I arrived there the best looking girl was wearing a tshirt and not the stafff uniform. I had asked her to give me my BJ but turns out she was a friend just visiting. Shame, she was cute.
Anyways blow over, headed to Cowboy. Normal look in Dollhouse upstairs, onto Rawhide where a lady came and basically sat on my fingers. Sure you can get a drink honey LOL.
From there, after much texting, I met a BKK lady I had met one year ago. I think she's about 40, tall, skinny legs, impressive rack. I figured when we met a year back she would forget me but didn't, and I in turn remembered her very impressive body. Anyways we met near Cowboy in a Sheffield themed pub (being a yorkshireman that worked for me!). Had a few too many drinks, managed to get to the sex by 2am I think then up at 8 for flight.
She was free to, except for a little taxi fare.
And that was that. One night in BKK.
Nick Depalma
05-16-12, 03:29
Was wondering if the massage places all have rubbers / raincoats on hand?
Else, I'm assuming a nearby drug store has a good selection at a reasonably cost?
Does anyone have a reliable chemist for the blue diamonds?
Thanks brothers!
Bowerboy had a soulution in his earlier post here about suggest group sex to get rid of a lady (or if she into it it is a win win sit.).
I have been e-mailing and chatting (msn) with a girl working in a restaurant in Soi 11. A nice little stunner from Rayong. We had some fun times together and she is into everything (had to work quite a lot to enter the backdoor but that is history now). Lately I get the feeling though that she has become rather serious about our situation and that is not a good thing in my book. I thought I might, upon my arrival the 17. May, try to scare her away about suggestion a 3some. I even asked her if she had a friend willing to participate in such an event.
I got a sms from her now and her manager (also a cute little stunner that I have seen and talked to on previous occations) will participate on Thursday before they start working. Suites me fine as I have an early morning arrival. OMG so it did not scare her at all but I feel like a bit successful despite my initial wish. Well I think I might end this at a later stage then.
Kamagra here we go.While I don't agree on lying to women (har ingen fortalt deg at det er galt å lyve?) , and lose out on a lot of women due to that, I'm sure we are all here scratching our heads on how to help you with this problem.
Hope to see a followup in the photos thread.
NicFrenchy
05-16-12, 06:19
While I don't agree on lying to women (har ingen fortalt deg at det er galt å lyve?) , and lose out on a lot of women due to that, I'm sure we are all here scratching our heads on how to help you with this problem.
Hope to see a followup in the photos thread.Yes, lying is really bad (however everyone does it and the girls also) , I suggest you tell her you tried do "do it" with a guy and you are now 100% Gay. Hahahahaha
Tony Hoeprano
05-16-12, 06:33
How do you tell a Thai girl she has a smelly poos without having her "lose face"? This chick is attractive and has a nice body, spends a ton on skin care products and treatment services, yet doesn't appear to be aware that her poos stinks. Its to the point where I don't like having sex with her now.
Bowerboy had a soulution in his earlier post here about suggest group sex to get rid of a lady (or if she into it it is a win win sit.).
I have been e-mailing and chatting (msn) with a girl working in a restaurant in Soi 11. A nice little stunner from Rayong. We had some fun times together and she is into everything (had to work quite a lot to enter the backdoor but that is history now). Lately I get the feeling though that she has become rather serious about our situation and that is not a good thing in my book. I thought I might, upon my arrival the 17. May, try to scare her away about suggestion a 3some. I even asked her if she had a friend willing to participate in such an event.
I got a sms from her now and her manager (also a cute little stunner that I have seen and talked to on previous occations) will participate on Thursday before they start working. Suites me fine as I have an early morning arrival. OMG so it did not scare her at all but I feel like a bit successful despite my initial wish. Well I think I might end this at a later stage then.
Kamagra here we go.Try learning the phrase about old buffalo and green grass.
How do you tell a Thai girl she has a smelly poos without having her "lose face"? This chick is attractive and has a nice body, spends a ton on skin care products and treatment services, yet doesn't appear to be aware that her poos stinks. Its to the point where I don't like having sex with her now.I'm no doctor, but isn't this usually caused by an infection? Quite common and most women seem to get it now and then, so just tell her it smells like she might have an infection down there and that perhaps she should see a doctor about it to make sure.
NicFrenchy
05-16-12, 12:28
I'm no doctor, but isn't this usually caused by an infection? Quite common and most women seem to get it now and then, so just tell her it smells like she might have an infection down there and that perhaps she should see a doctor about it to make sure.Yep, I was thinking the same
How do you tell a Thai girl she has a smelly poos without having her "lose face"? This chick is attractive and has a nice body, spends a ton on skin care products and treatment services, yet doesn't appear to be aware that her poos stinks. Its to the point where I don't like having sex with her now.God I hate that. What a turn off. I have to admit I have never had a Thai girl with a stinky pussy. They are always taking showers. The Hispanics usually stink from my experience.
I would tell her though. If not, stick some Vicks in your nose before you eat it and fuck it. It will kill the stink from her pussy.
NicFrenchy
05-16-12, 14:25
God I hate that. What a turn off. I have to admit I have never had a Thai girl with a stinky pussy. They are always taking showers. The Hispanics usually stink from my experience.
I would tell her though. If not, stick some Vicks in your nose before you eat it and fuck it. It will kill the stink from her pussy.Man, the worst pussy of my whole LIFE was in Thailand. Here's the review I wrote back then:
It was at GARDEN SPA. Washington Square (now defunct)
Have not posted anything interesting in a long time and wanted to share with you a nice and surprising experience that happened last year.
I was eating at Bourbon Street (cajun Restaurant) on Washington Square, reading the newspaper and really felt I needed to relax / nap.
Sazanka is next door but I did not want anything with Extras so I headed towards that legit looking massage place across Sazanka. The one that looks like an old Sauna (I think it is actually). Not sure about the name of the place but for those of you who have been to Sazanka, you will know which place I am referring to.
I went inside and they have an old looking counter with price list and an old lady smiling behind it. Place looked dodgy but I was only after a TTM so it did not really matter.
I saw they had TTM at less than 200 thb and 250 thb in VIP Room. Great, if it is cheap, it usually is a legit joint.
I point towards the 250 in VIP Room and the lady gives me a great smile. She asks me to follow her.
We go to an elevator and up to the 3rd or 4th floor. She opens the door to a big room with 2 mattresses on the floor, a sofa with coffee table and a TV.
She opened the TV and asked me to change into the TTM Clothes.
I did so but switched off the TV as I wanted to sleep. I sat on the Sofa plating with my phone until the masseuse showed up. The room was very dark and I wasn't interested who was gong to do the massage so I did not even look at her.
I laid down on my stomach and went to sleep. She must have sensed that I was tired and did not give a strong massage because I did not feel a thing. Maybe she did not even massage me and watched TV for half an hour LOL. I was so sound asleep.
Time to turn over, I woke up a little and dozed off again. I am not sure how long had passed but something woke me up. I felt the lady was massaging my cock through the TTM Pants. I wanted to have a better look and tried to get my head up but the lady pushed me back down "ok, you sleep".
I laid back down but couldn't sleep anymore, just closed my eyes and enjoyed. She lowered my pants and started to stroke me slowly, then faster until I sensed a warm feeling around my cock: she had put me in her mouth.
As I opened my eyes, I saw that she was touching herself while blowing me. She was doing a pretty good job. As I was close to erupting, I got up, disrobed her and was ready to give her the rooting she wanted.
As I removed her panties, I had to take a few steps back! Some ladies have a strong Fishy smell "down there" but this girl's fish had died long ago and she probably left it inside to rot. The smell was almost so strong I was going to puke. The Thai masseuse (young, slim and not bad looking) seemed completely oblivious to the smell (could it be that she sniffs so many time on these inhalers that she lost every sense of smell?)
I needed to get out of there and FAST! I took a deep breath, apologised saying I had no condom. No way, she happily took out some from her purse.
I was sweating, trying to find a way to escape. My pecker was so scared it never looked that small, I think if it could hide inside my body, it would have.
To cut a long Story Short, My phone Rang and I was never so happy to hear it ring. I told her it is my boss and I have to run. She looked disappointed and begged me to come back for her.
Even though she got dressed there was still a lingering Stench in the room. I wonder what the Maid must have though when she entered the room to clean it.
I wanted to give my masseuse a tip but she only took 100thb and asked me to come back "I like you hansum, you come see me, I want you" yeah, right.
Shit, almost a year has passed and the smell is still tickling my nostrils.
Anyway, for those of you who always wondered, that Sauna joint looks like it is an FS friendly place since even the TTM girls carry condoms.
LittleBigMan
05-16-12, 18:03
How do you tell a Thai girl she has a smelly poos without having her "lose face"? This chick is attractive and has a nice body, spends a ton on skin care products and treatment services, yet doesn't appear to be aware that her poos stinks. Its to the point where I don't like having sex with her now.What is wrong with you? Dig yourself into the situation and think of it as a aging wheel of strong Italian cheese from your favorite deli? Dig in and get yourself some Thai Dorian don't you know it is in season? Or better yet you don't need to say a word? Just finger fuck her get a scope of that lovely smelly yeast infection and then while you are kissing her rub that same finger over her nose. She won't say a word but she will get the point and get it fix. Or last, you get just get busy with your tongue and dig in and clean up the mess yourself.
LBM
Etaoin2003
05-17-12, 00:03
Brothers, I will be staying at hotel four seasons as I will be attending a conference. As this is my first time alone to Bangkok, I need advise as to whether the place is near any great entertainment areas.Juggie, search for "Four Seasons Bangkok" in Google Maps. See where you are? See the big orange expressway ("toll road")? Just to the east is a llabel "Nana Hotel." That's ground zero, and not a bad walk from your hotel.
NicFrenchy
05-17-12, 00:18
Brothers, I will be staying at hotel four seasons as I will be attending a conference. As this is my first time alone to Bangkok, I need advise as to whether the place is near any great entertainment areas. I have tried to find information on this hotel from this forum but was not able to do so. There is far too much info on the bars / areas and I am totally confused. Assuming that I don't have time to experiment, whats the best option for me to get a nice girl and have a meaningful 2 hour GFE session! I don't want to go too far from the hotel.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
JuggieI think the best thing you can do is go to Mango's website: http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/ladies/ Or go to Snow white Website: http://snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html
And call them, ask for a girl to join you in the room.
Easy peasy.
Or hop in the Rachadamri BTS (Silom Line) and go to Sala Daeng (Patpong) and there is a lot there to do. Oily, Soapy, BJ Bars, bars. Take your pick
FreebieFan
05-17-12, 02:08
Was wondering if the massage places all have rubbers / raincoats on hand?
Else, I'm assuming a nearby drug store has a good selection at a reasonably cost?
Does anyone have a reliable chemist for the blue diamonds?
Thanks brothers!Best chemist I know is the big one next to Bulys Pub on Sukh close to entrance to Nana. Think gas station, pharma and Bullys. They have everything you want there, I've been buying there for several years. This year I aslo bought some Cappra, no idea if its good, but will try it this weekend. A member posted about it recently.
Tony Hoeprano
05-17-12, 03:24
Nobodys perfect!
Just tell her she smells like an indian down under and leave.
Re-her losing her face. Were you planning on telling her in front of her friends. Hahahahahaha?
You live there mr Tony?Yes sir. I live here. Not exactly easy telling a girl smells like an Indian after she treats you to swensons LOL.
Hmmm just texted her she had an infection yesterday and haven't heard back yet.
Speaking of Indians in Thailand, I've noticed quite a few of them holding hands together, is this an indian custom, like Italians kiss each other on the cheek, or they gay? I have yet to see an Indian holding hands with a a Thai girl.. I guess I haven't been here long enough..
Speaking of Indians in Thailand, I've noticed quite a few of them holding hands together, is this an indian custom? .That's a question that only someone who has never been to India could ask. Or someone who's world has taken him from the factory floor to lower Sukh, with no stops in between. Yeah, it's customary. Redirect your gaydar to tune in on LB's.
Yes sir. I live here. Speaking of Indians in Thailand, I've noticed quite a few of them holding hands together, is this an indian custom, like Italians kiss each other on the cheek, or they gay?Its quite acceptable in Thai culture for two guys to be holding hands, walk arm in arm, or even sleep in a double bed together while not being gay in the slighest. So it would not seem strange to me if two guys from another Eastern culture were doing the same, or even a Farang and an asian person. My SE Asian boss is a rather touchy person, and might grab my arm to take me over to his desk, but I take no offense because its just their culture.
Would not happen in my home country of course.
As I removed her panties, I had to take a few steps back! Some ladies have a strong Fishy smell "down there" but this girl's fish had died long ago and she probably left it inside to rot. The smell was almost so strong I was going to puke. The Thai masseuse (young, slim and not bad looking) seemed completely oblivious to the smell (could it be that she sniffs so many time on these inhalers that she lost every sense of smell?)Most Thai girls smell good. Older girls have tend to have pussy odour more than the young ones. Same goes for bad breath. I agree that odours are often caused by infections, lack of cleanliness, or "time of month".
I once met a half Thai half Jamaican girl who was clearly having a period, as the stench was so bad I was gagging and nearly passed out, and that was just from standing next to her. Was not normal BO. She looked slightly spaced out (drugs?) , so could be a lack of cleanliness as well. There was no thought of touching her pussy in any way, or getting close to it. Just to escape rapidly.
When girls stink this badly, I can smell it, even if they are fully clothed. The smell goes through underwear and jeans no problem.
we "ain't" going to change Thailand. Hopefully though, it will change us for the better. Thais have a great capacity for joy. Best thing about living with a Thai woman is that she wakes up happy almost every morning. Nice!Beautifully said Goatscrot, I couldn't agree more. I've learned to be happier here, at the contact of Thais.
FreebieFan
05-17-12, 09:30
Speaking of Indians in Thailand, I've noticed quite a few of them holding hands together, is this an indian custo.I don't get to BKK that often sadly so when I do I always take a moment to look around and see whats changing and changed. Well on my last trip there were great gangs of Indians roaming around but none were actually entering any of the Cowboy bars.
On this trip, my hotel and a few ther hotels I stopped in were full of Indians. On Cowboy itself, they had learned to stop roaming around in gangs and had clearly learnt that groups don't realy get the girls. So inside Spankys, and Rainbow. They were happily sitting around in groups of two, or three or four guys. And true to Indian form, with one girl shared between them all. LOL. They are slowly getting there.
GentleBoner
05-17-12, 16:00
Most Thai girls smell good. Older girls have tend to have pussy odour more than the young ones. Same goes for bad breath. I agree that odours are often caused by infections, lack of cleanliness, or "time of month".
I once met a half Thai half Jamaican girl who was clearly having a period, as the stench was so bad I was gagging and nearly passed out, and that was just from standing next to her. Was not normal BO. She looked slightly spaced out (drugs?) , so could be a lack of cleanliness as well. There was no thought of touching her pussy in any way, or getting close to it. Just to escape rapidly.
When girls stink this badly, I can smell it, even if they are fully clothed. The smell goes through underwear and jeans no problem.That's just the black girl (and guy) smell. It's sort of musky like a horse or a barnyard. Some of them have it worse than others, but it can get bad when they're hot. Has something to do with their sweat glands.
I was all excited the first few times I had a black girl in the US, but then I had a Jamaican born girl in the summertime after she had played tennis, and the smell was so bad that I haven't been with a black girl since.
The Indian girls I've been with have not smelled however.
Indians roaming around but none were actually entering any of the Cowboy bars. full of Indians On Cowboy itself, they had learned to stop roamingIndians on Cowboy just doesn't sound right. What you've been seeing are either 'subcontinentals' or 'hindus' right
Most Thai girls smell good. Older girls have tend to have pussy odour more than the young ones. Same goes for bad breath. I agree that odours are often caused by infections, lack of cleanliness, or "time of month".
I once met a half Thai half Jamaican girl who was clearly having a period, as the stench was so bad I was gagging and nearly passed out, and that was just from standing next to her. Was not normal BO. She looked slightly spaced out (drugs?) , so could be a lack of cleanliness as well. There was no thought of touching her pussy in any way, or getting close to it. Just to escape rapidly.
When girls stink this badly, I can smell it, even if they are fully clothed. The smell goes through underwear and jeans no problem.LOL that's one of the most hilarious things I've ever read. Up there with some of Giottos' posts.
"Come to Miracle Thailand where you can be clubbed by security guards in Bangkok, kidnapped by fake police and scammed at every corner in Pattaya, beaten up by the TukTuk mafia in Phuket, killed in Chiang Mai from the over use of pesticides in the hotel, murdered by the police in Pai, killed by a mini van on any road in the country, and catch drug resistant malaria, HIV, bird flu, and swine flu. And if you're really lucky, you'll be murdered violently and the police will rule it a suicide even thought your arms were tied behind your back and your head was found a kilometer away."
That's just the black girl (and guy) smell. It's sort of musky like a horse or a barnyard. Some of them have it worse than others, but it can get bad when they're hot. Has something to do with their sweat glands.No I was talking about menstrual period stench, which is very different, and can happen to girls who do not normally smell bad (throughout the whole month). I made that clear already. I do know the acrid pong of under-arm BO due to apocrine sweat glands breeding bacteria.
What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?
GoodEnough
05-18-12, 07:11
Indians on Cowboy just doesn't sound right. What you've been seeing are either 'subcontinentals' or 'hindus' rightIndians on Cowboy sounds perfect to an American as we have a long traditional fascination with "coyboys and indians," as any lover of old western movies will know.
GE
Wolvenvacht
05-18-12, 08:42
My second visit to the famous Eden Club in Bangkok.
Upon entering, only a few ladies were present, but in less time than it took to take a sip from my drink, about 20 ladies filed in.
One immediately caught my eye. Nice face, little bit curvy, not too small, not too big. As is customary she choose the second lady and her choice was a chubby gal. Mai pen rai. It doesn't always have to be skinny and small.
At the room it turned out my choice was new to Eden club and her "friend" really was her mentor / trainer.
I got a *very* good cleaning in the shower. The student wanted to show the teacher how well she remembered all lessons it seems. I don't think I have ever been so clean!
Then on to the bed. Both taking turns in sucking and licking me, with the teacher finishing me in her mouth.
Next came massage time. I got a really good Thai style massage from both of them. I guess it took about 20 minutes and that allowed me to recover. So after the massage, I was ready again and put both ladies on their backs so I could have a good look at their pussies. The student's pussy looked the most cute to me, so I gave that a good licking. The teacher joined in and kissed the student and licked her nipples. By now my little friend was fully ready and the teacher put the condom on him. I asked if she could take care of her own pussy whilst I fucked the student and obligingly she grabbed a dildo and started fucking her own pussy.
I pounded away in the student's pussy: it was smooth going, moist and hot. She had no problem taking all my length in missionary position. I did not even bother to change position as this felt very good. Meanwhile the teacher continued playing with the dildo. When the student pinched my nipples, I came.
Wow, this was a great session. Much better than last time when the action was good but rather "scripted". This seemed more "natural" and "spontaneous".
Costs: 4000 baht plus 2 x 200 baht tip.
NicFrenchy
05-18-12, 08:51
What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?Most these Indians are Born in Thailand, they are Thai-Indians so they are in their own country I guess.
What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?And freedom of movement within the Sub Asian continent. Don't know where you from, however, more than likely your country is home to numerous Aliens who are entrenched in the fact that they will not adopt their new language, refuse to change their cultural beliefs. Where I live, UK, we have people who cannot speak English and present themselves unashamedly Alien. Believe it or not. Within my Company we have people in responsible positions, English language skills at about 40 percent. We the workforce do not understand them.
NWO, Wheather we like it or not, constitutions were toilet paper to the Shadow Masters a very long time ago.
The aim is to break down your Nationalism, patriotism and stymy your free speach. Say anything out of turn: The big 'R' word, the minorities love to cry along with political opportunists and apologists. The Sheople have a duty to take it all back, but no, they continue watching TV.
Most these Indians are Born in Thailand, they are Thai-Indians so they are in their own country I guess.There's a lot of Thais with Indian ancestry. Sikhs, Hindu, Buddhists, Jains, etc, are all in the mix. You can visit Bangkok districts such as lower Silom, or Pahurat, to see this.
Indians, or Thai-Indians, play a large role in the growing local hotel industry. Plus, a lot of Indian families travel to Thailand to have lavish weddings at the 5-star hotels along the Chao Phraya River.
And, despite the convenient stereotype, many of the tailor shop guys are actually from Nepal.
Yes but according to other reports here, the take over by indians in terms of presence in the streets and businesses etc is recent. I can't confirm this as I wasn't hanging out in BKK 15 years ago, but that's what I read.
Yes but according to other reports here, the take over by indians in terms of presence in the streets and businesses etc is recent. I can't confirm this as I wasn't hanging out in BKK 15 years ago, but that's what I read.Indians have been active in Thailand business for centuries.
"Historical Ties India And Thailand" - http://www.esamskriti.com/essay-chapters/Historical-Ties-India-and-Thailand-1.aspx
More on the Nepalis:
"Nepalis in Thailand" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalis_in_Thailand
"Nepalese in Bangkok " - http://www.ecs.com.np/feature_detail.php?f_id=166:
Hi all, I'm going to Thailand end of May, for two weeks, with my gf and two other couples (6 in total. All friends)
We arrive in Bangkok spend 3nights then travel to coh Chang spend 5 nights, then back to Bancok for another 3 nights (don't ask why the gf booked it! LOL).
I desperately wanted to go without the Mrs but because she's already been, there was no way she was gona let me go alone so we ended up in this group situation. Being as its 3 boys and 3 girls, the lads will Defo have a boys night out (a few if its up to me!)
My friend at work says pattya is a must for one night at least and we also intend to attend a moon party whilst were in co Chang one of the neighbouring islands are hosting one, just needed some advice on how best to punt and manouver to get the best possible experiences given the situation as I would want to slit my wrists if I came back to London without adequate exploration. Thanks.
Hi all, ima taking a verything is already pre booked and paid. Were arriving in Bangkok sat 26th may and are staying@glow Trinity hotel, on 29th we take private minibus to Trat. Ferry to koh Chang, once in koh Chang were staying@aana Resort until 6th June then back to Bangkok by minibus / ferry to stay at sky tower hotel leaving Bangkok for London on the 8th June. I understand there are loads of small islands surrounding coh Chang so I want to visit as many of them as possible, just looking for maximum experience out of a limited situation, I think I may have to feint argument just before holiday to gain some freedom / leverage. Hehe. Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?
ThanksWow man. I couldn't think of anything worse than coming to Thailand in the above scenario.
You will have plenty of chance to get out wide though either in KC or BKK.
Good luck
NicFrenchy
05-18-12, 10:43
And, despite the convenient stereotype, many of the tailor shop guys are actually from Nepal.Very interesting indeed, Thank you, I have learned something today
AssLover945
05-18-12, 10:53
There's a lot of Thais with Indian ancestry. Sikhs, Hindu, Buddhists, Jains, etc, are all in the mix. You can visit Bangkok districts such as lower Silom, or Pahurat, to see this.
Indians, or Thai-Indians, play a large role in the growing local hotel industry. Plus, a lot of Indian families travel to Thailand to have lavish weddings at the 5-star hotels along the Chao Phraya River.
And, despite the convenient stereotype, many of the tailor shop guys are actually from Nepal.Thai Language comes from Sanskrit and Pali. Which are old Indian Languages and they happen to be the mother language of all modern Indian Languages (BTW India has around 20 Languages, all different from each other)
Buddism comes from India too. Around 97% of Thais are Buddhists.
Go figure the "indian" influence which has been there for centuries.
my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposalThose were the days I guess.
Do not go to Pattaya. It is not "a must" and you do not have enough time to justify going there.
For going rates and places, RTFF.
What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?You want to know, ask them. Some are Bangladeshi, Muslim. Some Hindu. Some not subcontinentals at all.
NicFrenchy
05-18-12, 13:52
Do not go to Pattaya. It is not "a must" and you do not have enough time to justify going there.I agree, you will waste your time going to Pattaya.
Also, as your GF will be with you adn she has been to Thailand before, I'd say your chances of a "Boys night out" is very very unlikely.
My advice to you would be to find a nice place (SPA would be good) where you know Extras are offered (This forum can help you) and where your wife will not suspect anything.
Horny Landoora
05-18-12, 14:08
On this trip, my hotel and a few ther hotels I stopped in were full of Indians. On Cowboy itself, they had learned to stop roaming around in gangs and had clearly learnt that groups don't realy get the girls. So inside Spankys, and Rainbow. They were happily sitting around in groups of two, or three or four guys. And true to Indian form, with one girl shared between them all. LOL. They are slowly getting there.Well, Indian middle class is getting rich. Disposable income is increasing. Bangkok remains a near and easy spot to get to. In terms of prices it is also cheap for Indian to buy a return ticket and stay in Hotel. For eg taking a return flight to Goa from Delhi at most time is more costly than a Delhi. BKK flight. Secondly hotel prices in Goa are way over the top even for three-four star properties. Considering that it remains a good option to fly out to Thailand for 4-5 days have some fun with the boys, bang some pussy and return hope with cheap stuff for everyone!
Sorry about this thread. I posted it by mistake one night when downloading some photos. I immediately e-mailed Jackson and asked him to delete it, but he appears to be asleep at the wheel (except for ladyboy references).
I'm surprised it has any legs at all.Since the other Bangkok thread has been fucked for some time and recently renamed, it seems convenient for this one to take over Bangkok Mongering reports.
LittleBigMan
05-18-12, 14:45
I agree, you will waste your time going to Pattaya.
Also, as your GF will be with you adn she has been to Thailand before, I'd say your chances of a "Boys night out" is very very unlikely.
My advice to you would be to find a nice place (SPA would be good) where you know Extras are offered (This forum can help you) and where your wife will not suspect anything.Nics right, since your wife is with you. Stay in Bangkok, it is for families, sightseeing, fancy and expensive food and of course shopping etc.
Pattaya is a "shithole" and once your wife see it, you will be in a load of shit!
LBM
Thai Language comes from Sanskrit and Pali. Which are old Indian Languages and they happen to be the mother language of all modern Indian Languages (BTW India has around 20 Languages, all different from each other)
Buddism comes from India too. Around 97% of Thais are Buddhists.
Go figure the "indian" influence which has been there for centuries.Thai language script (and Laos script) is influenced by Khmer script and maybe Sanskrit although Sanskrit appears to have no script of its own. While some Thai words are borrowed from Sanskrit and Pali languages, its a stretch to say that Thai comes from them. Modern Thai has probably more English related words than Pali words, excepting possibly in religious type of speach. I speak Thai, but when I hear Pali spoken by monks at the temple, I don't understand any of it at all. I can read it with no understanding since they use Thai script (a subset of it), for convenience of the Thais.
Its really quite different to Thai and has a very limited vowel sound set compared to Thai. Basically it has A, U, and I sounds, both short and long, but E and O probably only short. Thai has over 20 vowel sounds.
I do understand a fair bit of the Laos language as its close to Thai and bits of some other dialects in the near regions.
I don't believe Pali and Thai are considerd to be in the same language families. Sanskrit and Pali are from the Indo-Aryan family according to Wikipedia (just checked) , but Thai is not.
Forms of Buddhism have spread to many countries, like the spread of Islam and Christianity. Is my home country (Christian dominant) influenced by Palestine / Israel? I don't like to think so.
Yes Thai culture is influenced by Buddhism, but they also believe in pagan spirits. The 5 main Buddhist precepts are broken happily by Thais on a daily basis. Mai Pen Rai
AussieDoug
05-18-12, 15:19
What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?Indians were originally brought in by one of the former Kings to collect taxes, he knew thais would just pinch the bloody lot and he would see none of it, the British staffed most of the public services of their former colonies with Indians also. The indians stayed, and they own a lot of land around the Sukhumvit (lower) area, all of the hotels from the railway near the JW Marriott down to the Westin at Soi 19 are owned by indians, even the Amaris. They have done very well for themselves and good luck to them. But the thai people hate their guts, in fact thai people hate just about everybody else, they are super xenophobic.
Yes but according to other reports here, the take over by indians in terms of presence in the streets and businesses etc is recent. I can't confirm this as I wasn't hanging out in BKK 15 years ago, but that's what I read.I was here on and off since 20 years ago and I can't say that the change is that dramatic. Perhaps the Muslim and Sikh/Indian influence in the lower Sukhumvit odd numbered Sois has increased, but it was always there I think.
In general, Thais don't eat Indian food (at least the ones I know), but they will eat other types of food. When I was in Singapore I noticed that the Indians in IT only ate Indian food at the food courts. They didn't seem to want to try anything else. Possibly most were vegetarians.
Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?
ThanksYes in the early 90s I remember getting a Soi Cowboy girl for all night for 400 Baht (10 Euros). Nowadays the bar-fine is higher than that. After a very long LT was very hard to get rid of her. She tended to show up to my Hotel uninvited. I also took 3 girls from Pussy Galore to Koh Chang for about 3 days for very low cost in early 90s. Two of three were included almost for free. One was a bit too butch for my taste but other two were hot. In those days Koh Chang was not developed, had no roads (only tracks) , and huge amounts of pot were being smoked since could be obtained very cheaply from Cambodia. 100 Baht for a big bag of seed heads and no police on the Island. I don't smoke at all so the gancha was a waste on me.
If your mate paid 80 pounds for 4 girls for 8 hours he may have been paying at least double the going rates, or more, in early 90s. :D Times have certainly changed. In old days it was very hard to justify sleeping alone when a naked sexy fuck buddy was so incredibly cheap. I also recall a newbie bar-girl from some where in the 90s that enjoyed the sex so much, that she kept waking me up during the night for another round. Don't seem to meet so many insatiable girls these days.
Thai language script (and Laos script) is influenced by Khmer script and maybe Sanskrit although Sanskrit appears to have no script of its own. While some Thai words are borrowed from Sanskrit and Pali languages, its a stretch to say that Thai comes from them. Modern Thai has probably more English related words than Pali words, excepting possibly in religious type of speach. I speak Thai, but when I hear Pali spoken by monks at the temple, I don't understand any of it at all. I can read it with no understanding since they use Thai script (a subset of it) , for convenience of the Thais.
Its really quite different to Thai and has a very limited vowel sound set compared to Thai. Basically it has A, U, and I sounds, both short and long, but E and O probably only short. Thai has over 20 vowel sounds.
I do understand a fair bit of the Laos language as its close to Thai and bits of some other dialects in the near regions.
I don't believe Pali and Thai are considerd to be in the same language families. Sanskrit and Pali are from the Indo-Aryan family according to Wikipedia (just checked) , but Thai is not.
Forms of Buddhism have spread to many countries, like the spread of Islam and Christianity. Is my home country (Christian dominant) influenced by Palestine / Israel? I don't like to think so.
Yes Thai culture is influenced by Buddhism, but they also believe in pagan spirits. The 5 main Buddhist precepts are broken happily by Thais on a daily basis. Mai Pen Rai1. Sanskrit is the mother of almost all languages including Latin.
2. Sanskrit was written in the Devnagari script. Most North Indian languages (except Urdu) are written in that script. Pali is a derivative of Sanskrit. BTW India has 24 major languages and over 1000 dialects.
3. If you look at Thai script is is very much the same as the Tamil script of South India (from where most Indians in earlier centuries went to Siam).
4. Indians were not brought to collect taxes. The Indian traders loaned money to the Thais and took their land as collateral. That's how they came to own so much land and the resentment of Thais.
5. Yes a lot of tailor shops are owned by Indians but also by bangladeshis and nepalese. Guess we all look the same, huh.
6. A large chunk of Thai names are of Indian origin.
7. Although Buddhism is by far the majority religion, you can see pockets where Hinduism is also followed.
Hi Folks,
I remember some genial guy had posted places of action marked on Google maps some years ago (2009). Searched for that but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if its still online?
Thanks, KennyIt looks like its no longer fully maintained but things don't change that much, except perhaps the prices and girls:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msid=211157051689439137713.00044836624e9b986acc9&msa=0
1. Sanskrit is the mother of almost all languages including Latin.You made some good points, but forgive me if I don't swallow that one, as a skeptical type.
3. If you look at Thai script is is very much the same as the Tamil script of South India (from where most Indians in earlier centuries went to Siam).Yes Thai script is vaguely similar to Tamil but closer to Laos and Khmer scripts. Of course the languages were spoken long before they had any scripts at all. Scripts were an afterthought.
Quoting Wikipedia:
"The Thai alphabet is derived from the Old Khmer script (akkhara khamen) , which is a southern Brahmic style of writing called Vatteluttu. Vatteluttu was also commonly referred to as the Pallava script by scholars of Southeast Asian studies such as George Coedes.
According to tradition it was created in 1283 by King Ramkhamhaeng the Great "
I do know that many Thai words, especially Khmer influenced, are similar to some Indian language words. e.g. Wat Arun "The Temple of Dawn". Arun or a very similar word appears in some Indian languages, right? I recall meeting an Indian named Arun, I think. Arun is a not a commonly used Thai word, its more of a stylistic alternate one. Thai has borrowed words from several origins, including many English words. Khmer is one of the strongest due to Khmer dominance of the region in times long gone by. The Thai numbers sound very similar to some Cantonese numbers.
Member #4643
05-18-12, 17:35
I have tried two techniques to have sex during daylight hours. These shoiuld work well.
1. Put on my sneakers for a long run. Run (or taxi) to a massage place.
2. Arrange a tour guide to a cool place far from your hotel. The next morning, have a pained look on your face, tell everyone you have diarrhea and intend to stay in bed. As long as your gf / wife decides not to play nurse, you are free. Be certain to leave your room phone off the hook so she can't check on you.
Getting a free night off is impossible. I would welcome suggestions.
By the way, this works in Brazil. I have never brought a girlfriend/wife to BKK.
Bringing your wife to Bangkok is like bringing a sandwhich to a banquet.
Syzygies, I hate you for that 90s post ;) It definitely puts things into perspective. Where does one go these days for such an experience, Laos? Birma?
Tony Hoeprano
05-18-12, 18:48
All this Indian history is great, and for the most part they're decent people. HOWEVER, it still does not explain why they smell so bad. the OP really opened a can of worms LOL
I would guess that the manners of the people from India, which includes pushing, shoving and other behavior are part of their culture. I am not from there, but you ever been to New York City or around some of those from "the city". At home for them it is standard procedure. They think it is normal. However many cultures don't like it. This is just a guess.
As far as smell, it is my understanding that it is due to the curry they eat. You do smell of what you eat. Perhaps a good meal of garlic would be a way to get even with them. LOL.
Where I live the people from India are like the rest of us as far as smell. Nothing different from what everybody else smells like.
Just my 2 baht's worth.
Tony Hoeprano
05-18-12, 20:07
But the thai people hate their guts, in fact thai people hate just about everybody else, they are super xenophobic.Blah, everyone's xenophobic. I find most Thais likable and friendly, I think they use the word "hate" loosely and more of an ignorant statement; whereas a redneck in the deep woods really hates minorities and jews, and the rich fellow in the burbs who pays a mint for NBA tickets would be appalled if those same NBA dudes were banging his daughter
HOWEVER, it still does not explain why they smell so bad.We don't need to find the reason. All they need to do is invest in some deodorant. Even, many Indians who have spent a considerable amount of time in the US seems oblivious to their BO.
I would guess that the manners of the people from India, which includes pushing, shoving and other behavior are part of their culture. I am not from there, but you ever been to New York City or around some of those from "the city". At home for them it is standard procedure. They think it is normal. However many cultures don't like it. This is just a guess.You are right, When Indians form a queue to get movie tickets or at any event, they tend to stand as close to the person in front, infact touching the other person. This happened to me in NY, I just politely asked the man to step back and to give me some space. Indians in general are a boisterous bunch. I guess when you have about 25 million people living in an area similar to NY, ones got to be boisterous.
Crocodilexp
05-19-12, 00:28
Indians were originally brought in by one of the former Kings to collect taxesIt was the Chinese who did tax-farming back in the day. Got them mixed up.
But the thai people hate their guts, in fact thai people hate just about everybody else, they are super xenophobic.I don't know of a nation less xenophobic than Thais.
Perhaps the exact opposite of xenophobic. In Isan they prefer Farang to their own kind for marriage and such (in other parts a not as much, but still not close to hate). Money is a factor, but if they were really xenophobic, it wouldn't help us. If they really hated everybody else, we couldn't pay to shag 95% of working girls. If you want to know what xenophobic really looks like, go to Korea or Japan. In RLDs of Seoul (all except Itaewon) , hookers woo Korean guys, and turn away their glance in disgust whenever a white beast walks by.
It was the Chinese who did tax-farming back in the day. Got them mixed up.
I don't know of a nation less xenophobic than Thais.
Perhaps the exact opposite of xenophobic. In Isan they prefer Farang to their own kind for marriage and such (in other parts a not as much, but still not close to hate). Money is a factor, but if they were really xenophobic, it wouldn't help us. If they really hated everybody else, we couldn't pay to shag 95% of working girls. If you want to know what xenophobic really looks like, go to Korea or Japan. In RLDs of Seoul (all except Itaewon) , hookers woo Korean guys, and turn away their glance in disgust whenever a white beast walks by.Really? How long have you lived here? Do you do business here? If a Thai woman can find a Thai man that treats her well and has money, she would normally rather be with them. Spent much time in Bangkok? Thais with money want to have very little to do with Farang. This people here are very xenophobic. Perhaps not as much as the Japanese or Koreans, but not trailing by much.
If they were not xenophobic it would be far easier to do business and far easier to get citizenship. In Isaan they love the farang because he has money, no doubt about it. When driving through an Isaan village you see hovel, hovel, hovel, farang house, hovel. Believe me, if there were no money there would be no love. I was in Udon a few weeks back and was amazed at the number of "ex-working girls" at Mr Tong's that drive up in their new cars and trucks and pick up younger guys while hubby or boyfriend (who bought the house and car) are off earning money.
How many "girlfriends" have Thai guys on the side? A lot.
Juggie2006
05-19-12, 17:25
Thanks to NicFrenchy, Etaoin2003 & Ivanba for your response and suggestions!
I think the best thing you can do is go to Mango's website:
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/ladies/
Or go to Snow white Website:
http://snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html
And call them, ask for a girl to join you in the room.
Easy peasy.
Or hop in the Rachadamri BTS (Silom Line) and go to Sala Daeng (Patpong) and there is a lot there to do. Oily, Soapy, BJ Bars, bars. Take your pick
Etaoin2003
05-19-12, 22:30
From http://www.thephuketnews.com/thailand-no-1-for-indian-travellers-30725.php
"For the calendar year 2011, the Tourism Authority of Thailand has revealed that a record number of 917, 832 Indians travelled to Thailand in comparison to 791, 185 in 2010, making it the number one destination for Indians with a growth rate in excess of 16 per cent in 2011. In 2012, this growth is continuing with 210, 722 Indians visiting Thailand from January to March, representing an increase of 1. 64 per cent over the same period in 2011."
The "smell" thing comes up frequently. You smell like what you eat. If you eat meat, vegetarians can smell your stench. You can't, because you're used to it.
Tony Hoeprano
05-20-12, 08:13
The "smell" thing comes up frequently. You smell like what you eat. If you eat meat, vegetarians can smell your stench. You can't, because you're used to it.If this were true, not many koreans would have friends if they all smelled like Kim Chee
Tony Hoeprano
05-20-12, 08:51
I thought Insomnia was more a place to pick up free girls but boy was I wrong, seems most girls were on the clock, so to speak. I guess this explains why no Thai guys go here LOL.
Also had the unpleasant experience of a creepy farang, who looked like Sting, staring at me while ordering a drink at the bar. Seems quite a few creeps in these places!
Also had the unpleasant experience of a creepy farang, who looked like Sting, staring at me while ordering a drink at the bar. Seems quite a few creeps in these places!You must be hansuman :)
CerealKiller
05-20-12, 11:30
Hi to all Senior / Junior members,
I will be in Bangkok on 5th June 2012. If any of you would like to meet up for some drinks and fod, PM me please and I will reply.
NicFrenchy
05-20-12, 12:22
Hi to all Senior / Junior members,
I will be in Bangkok on 5th June 2012. If any of you would like to meet up for some drinks and fod, PM me please and I will reply.I think there is a Travel Announcement Thread for this no?
Syzygies, I hate you for that 90s post ;) It definitely puts things into perspective. Where does one go these days for such an experience, Laos? Birma?Nope. Paraguay.
Syzygies, I hate you for that 90s post ;) It definitely puts things into perspective. Where does one go these days for such an experience, Laos? Birma?I don't really know, but I heard that Phnom Phen (I can't even spell it) is significantly cheaper than Thailand. The story was that the English speaking girls in town were not cheap enough for a very tight retiree. He would go outside town and find non-English speaking girls to fuck for about $5 or so. Not my own experience so I can't confirm if its really true, but basically its still way cheaper than Pattaya. The English speaking girls are able to charge more.
In the 90s here in Thailand I was just starting to learn Thai but I preferred to spend time with girls who had very little or no English, and they would teach me Thai that I hadn't obtained from the class room. One of those girls is still in contact with me. She is about 45 now and was about 25 back then. She married a Yank long ago but split years later and returned to Thailand. She wants me to settle down with her, but of course she is not as exciting as 20 years ago. Has bad smoker's breath too, although says she is willing to quit or change to a mild brand. She was the one who started the training of me up to become expert in DATY, claiming that I was pretty ordinary at it back then, even though I tried hard and thought I was doing well. I never did DATY on my Farang ex-wife because her pussy didn't taste nice, so I didn't have that much practice. Anyway apparently a small percentage of guys do it very well, and detailed training doesn't go amiss. Its a pity most girls are too shy to become detailed instructresses.
As Nic says, the are few Thai girls who don't like a really expert DATY session, unless they just don't want to orgasm or have a good time in any way, just like we appreciate a really expert blow-job. There are always a few exceptions, particularly girls whose clit is ultra sensitive and orgasm so easily that DATY is just too much for them to cope with.
Sorry I have diverged from the point, but I owe my DATY training to that girl 20 years ago, and a significant part of my early colloquial Thai language practice and training. She confirms I am much better on the bed than 20 years ago, and now able to satisfy her well, which just shows that young guys don't necessarily make the best lovers. They need to have technique and experience (with different girls with different needs) to go with their hot body and stamina.
I have tried two techniques to have sex during daylight hours. These should work well.
1. Put on my sneakers for a long run. Run (or taxi) to a massage place.
2. Arrange a tour guide to a cool place far from your hotel. The next morning, have a pained look on your face, tell everyone you have diarrhea and intend to stay in bed. As long as your gf / wife decides not to play nurse, you are free. Be certain to leave your room phone off the hook so she can't check on you.
Bringing your wife to Bangkok is like bringing a sandwhich to a banquet.Unfortunately my GF lives here. Just a few points, based on my experience.
Its wise to have a fairly trusting wife who is not worried about checking where you are too much. Always prepare a very convincing story in advance so you don't stumble when telling it, and make sure that its impossible to check. The background noise or lack of it during any phone conversion needs to be consistent with your story. In the massage shop, make sure the girl turns off the shower / water before you answer the phone. My story about answering the phone while in a toilet won't wash if it happens too often. Don't involve other people in the fake story or your wife might ask you to pass the phone to them to say hello.
Time is too short and Bangkok is full of traffic jams. You need to catch a motorcycle to the playing up venue that is not too far away. That way you could rush back in a few minutes in an emergency situation. Try to pick a Hotel in Sukhumvit that is close to massage places but not right in middle of a mongering zone.
If you have a very limited time, like 30 mins available, a BJ place might be the only viable option for a very short session. However 1 hour sessions at Mango, Tulip, Snow White are certainly possible, and you can leave before time if necessary.
Be aware that after showering in a massage place, that you may smell a bit too nice. Perhaps go for a short fast run to get suitably sweaty to disguise that. Also take a shower just before you leave home, so that you start off smelling nice when you leave, to reduce the difference when you get home. Anyway shower and get clean in Thailand more than you normally do, at least twie a day, but perhaps more times when its very hot.
I often arrive home with some stuff like large paper coffee cup to help explain that I could have wasted time reading the newspaper in the Coffee shop.
Despite all these things my GF is not stupid and knows that if I am not getting enough at home, I am certainly likely to have some naughty recreation. Use condoms and reliable massge places so you don't get the clap. Wash hands and other parts properly afterwards. No one would go home to wife smelling of pussy, surely, no matter how clean the girl seemed?
Bringing your wife to Bangkok is like bringing a sandwhich to a banquet.I would say it is like bringing fork and knife at a finger food dinner. No need!
The "smell" thing comes up frequently. You smell like what you eat. If you eat meat, vegetarians can smell your stench. You can't, because you're used to it.This is only partially true. Most bad BO is caused by bacteria, growing in glands for those whose gland outlets are large allowing bacteria easy entry, or for those who just don't wash often enough.
Thai people often eat large amounts of garlic but their bodies don't smell like garlic even if their breath sometimes does a little bit. This is confusing to me since some westerners smell very heavily of garlic, the day after eating, say Indian food, as an example. I think its because Thais just don't have the same glands that let the smells out.
I don't know of a nation less xenophobic than Thais.
Perhaps the exact opposite of xenophobic.That's just got to be total rubbish. Any one with lots of experience here, would never make such a claim.
Racial predudice abounds, but somewhat less with working girls who get used to many nationalities.
Its not surprising that certain generalisations get made though, e. G. Certain countries don't understand tipping or just don't tip,
Certain nationalities tend to be more stingy and are a waste of bar space, as will sit on one drink all night, and so get turned away,
Etc.
Japanese are highly desired customers in most places, as they will spend significant money. A jewelery shop will usher out all the other customers if a group of Japanese arrive.
I would guess that the manners of the people from India, which includes pushing, shoving and other behavior are part of their culture. I am not from there, but you ever been to New York City or around some of those from "the city". At home for them it is standard procedure. They think it is normal. However many cultures don't like it. This is just a guess.Pushing and shoving is not uncommon right throughout Asia and including Thailand. Did you ever queue to buy a bus ticket up country at Chinese new-year? Probably not. If so, you would know, there is no queueing. Its every man for himself. Fortunately guys like you and I are tall, and can still get air to breath when in a pushing throng. I pity the very short ones. Hong Kong is the worst place I have ever experienced for pushing and shoving and same aplies to Hong Kong tourists here in Thailand. They push and shove to get off a boat, rather than just waiting sensibly for their turn, for example, as everything is absolutely urgent in their culture. I haven't been to all Asian countries but wouldn't be surprised if many do not have orderly queueing allowing some space.
When standing in a fairly orderly queue of foreigners waiting to exchange money in Bangkok, I have been forced to leave the queue because I just couldn't cope with the BO of the group of Arabs / middle-eastern guys right behind me in the queue. Unfortunately I'm just not used to it. I don't believe its caused by what they eat.
I get BO myself after heat and activity, but the big difference is that I can smell it, and am aware of it, and therefore I am quick to do something about it. Regular rigourous washing under arms and a good deodorant works for a fair time for me. Maybe this is not enough for all. Some may need to seek medical advice to deal with bacteria breeding in the glands.
Tony Hoeprano
05-20-12, 16:18
Etc.
Japanese are highly desired customers in most places, as they will spend significant money. A jewelery shop will usher out all the other customers if a group of Japanese arrive.Not only do they spend money, but they tend to be more passive and when things don't go their way, they might not put up a big stink as others would. Just like the scene in Revenge of the Nerds where Booger tells the Asian nerd that a two pair beats his "frush" and rather than question if a two pair beats a frush, he just says,"oh. Saank you". LOL.
That's just the black girl (and guy) smell. It's sort of musky like a horse or a barnyard. Some of them have it worse than others, but it can get bad when they're hot. Has something to do with their sweat glands.Black girl and guy smell? Seriously? I've had European, Indian, Thai, Japanese, Chinese, Filipina, American, Iranian and African girls. None of them smell any worse than the others based on their ethnic background. I've had just as many Asian or white girls with a bad smell as I've had African girls with a bad smell. All people have the propensity to emit a foul odor the difference is whether or not it's in their culture to use products to cover that odor. I can state from experience that a large percentage of people from Africa and India don't use these products as extensively as westerners do. This is why we sometimes perceive a strong odor from these groups, not some genetic predisposition from them to stink more than others.
GoodEnough
05-20-12, 22:43
Two nights ago I was sitting, having a beer, at a table on the outside terrace at Livingstone's Lodge. The table was immediately outside the Sportsman's bar. At about 9 o'clock a "team" of seven 30ish Indian guys walked up to the door of the bar. Their postures and their verbal behavior was quite aggressive. One of the ladies working at the bar came outside, waied the newcomers and welcomed them, whereupon they started to verbally assault her. First, they demanded to know why there weren't more women, since: "We are seven and there aren't enough for all of us." Then, their spokesman, loudly demanded to know the price of a beer and immediately retored: "That's too much. We are seven. You should give us a discount." Once told that no discount would be coming in the foreseeable future, the spokesperson demanded to know the price of a lady's drink, and again demanded a discount, which was of course refused. The argument continued for maybe 5-10 minutes, with the Indian voices-both English (of a sort) and Hindi-raised to levels generally considered boorish in Thai culture. Eventually, the guys stormed off, I supposed to attempt to intimidate someone else at another bar.
What these morons thought they would gain from their loutish, unacceptable behavior is a mystery to me. By the time they left, they had thoroughly alienated every customer and all of the hotel staff working in the vicinity of the argument. I've read a lot on this board about Indians being turned away from some clubs and bars in Thailand, and if the incident I witnessed is somehow characteristic of a larger population, I can understand the Thais' revulsion at such behavior. In my decades of living as an expatriate, this would make my top 5 on my list of vignettes of thoroughly unacceptable conduct. Of course the Thai staff, being Thai, handled the entire thing with grace and humor, without ever raising their voices.
GE
I thought Insomnia was more a place to pick up free girls but boy was I wrong, seems most girls were on the clock, so to speak. I guess this explains why no Thai guys go here LOL.
Also had the unpleasant experience of a creepy farang, who looked like Sting, staring at me while ordering a drink at the bar. Seems quite a few creeps in these places!Maybe FREElancers?
Has anyone noticed that the Help & Info thread is gone and the Bangkok Reports thread has returned?
Wonder what the story is behind it.
Has anyone noticed that the Help & Info thread is gone and the Bangkok Reports thread has returned?
Wonder what the story is behind it.Well. Jackson fixed it.
THAI Pickup website. Works wondersCould you please share the link for this website.
NicFrenchy
05-21-12, 10:59
Well well,
LEt's lighten up a little.
THAI GIRLS: UNITE.
Gone are the days when your Sorry ass "Farang of the night" (or of a couple hours) comes up with that shitty excuse: "oh, I have only 1500 on me." instead of the agreed 2k earlier?
Now, seeing as the majority of you TGs in the GoGo bars have iphones, wouldn't it be interesting to use this? That way, your dumbass farang can even get miles on his cc.
http://www.swiffpay.com/
NicFrenchy
05-21-12, 13:08
If, Like me you are a Die Hard BK Fan and think MickeyD is Shit in a Bun, well, Burger King now delivers its delicious Whopper right to your door.
For the Newbies: 1112 is the number for Pizza Company so don't panic if they answer "Pizza Company" when you call
Well well,
LEt's lighten up a little.
THAI GIRLS: UNITE.
Gone are the days when your Sorry ass "Farang of the night" (or of a couple hours) comes up with that shitty excuse: "oh, I have only 1500 on me." instead of the agreed 2k earlier?
Now, seeing as the majority of you TGs in the GoGo bars have iphones, wouldn't it be interesting to use this? That way, your dumbass farang can even get miles on his cc.
http://www.swiffpay.com/Nothing new. Lots of girls, the shaved ones, already have the swiff device and unit built in. Swipe your credit card "there" and you can then access it.
The technology guru are still trying to work out the abouts for micro-chip cards and how to digit the PIN code, if and when required.
Tony Hoeprano
05-21-12, 17:57
The last haircut here in BKK was a near disaster, the lady had no idea what she was doing, kept asking me is this ok as she was cutting it, and eventually the owner came in for guidance. I asked her how long she been cutting hair, expecting an answer of no more than a few months or years......"30 years"! WTF? Unbelievable she been cutting hair all these years and is clueless..lol
Can anyone recommend a place to get a good haircut? It's important because I got some internet dates lined up for free girls this week, and I don't want to look like a clown.
The last haircut here in BKK was a near disaster, the lady had no idea what she was doing, kept asking me is this ok as she was cutting it, and eventually the owner came in for guidance. I asked her how long she been cutting hair, expecting an answer of no more than a few months or years."30 years"! WTF? Unbelievable she been cutting hair all these years and is clueless. LOL.
Can anyone recommend a place to get a good haircut? It's important because I got some internet dates lined up for free girls this week, and I don't want to look like a clown.Try August, Sukhumvit between Soi 5 and 7. Has been mentioned here. The salon is all steel and mirrors, you can't miss it.
They do also manicure or pedicure.
I also used the Nana Hotel Massage parlor where (ladies) they do barber jobs.
Nothing to complain about.
Wondering what the hell happened to you and which place did you go (an alert for ISG fellows)
If, Like me you are a Die Hard BK Fan and think MickeyD is Shit in a Bun, well, Burger King now delivers its delicious Whopper right to your door.
For the Newbies: 1112 is the number for Pizza Company so don't panic if they answer "Pizza Company" when you callWTF? Never heard of MickeyD. For a really good burger, the stand on Soi 23 end of Cowboy, for a burger made to your specs.
This has obviously gone back to being the Misc. Off Topic thread.
Tony Hoeprano
05-21-12, 19:16
The place was somewhere in Siam Square, I can't really remember where it was. I'm not really good with directions.. I was looking for any ol place to get a haircut. She was an elderly lady maybe in her late 50's early 60's, and the one thing I distinctly remember about her was that she was a mouth breather
Horny Landoora
05-21-12, 19:26
WTF? Never heard of MickeyD.
This has obviously gone back to being the Misc. Off Topic thread.I am assuming Nick was refering to McDonalds!
I am assuming Nick was refering to McDonalds!okay I believe the only edible thing at Mackas is a cup of coffee, but depending on who made it, and that was only because late at night in my home country, all other coffee shops were closed. At least Mackas had an espresso machine.
Can anyone recommend a place to get a good haircut? It's important because I got some internet dates lined up for free girls this week, and I don't want to look like a clown.Go to the 3rd floor of Ploenchit plaza. I think it is called Scissors.
NicFrenchy
05-22-12, 01:49
The last haircut here in BKK was a near disaster, the lady had no idea what she was doing, kept asking me is this ok as she was cutting it, and eventually the owner came in for guidance. I asked her how long she been cutting hair, expecting an answer of no more than a few months or years."30 years"! WTF? Unbelievable she been cutting hair all these years and is clueless. LOL.
Can anyone recommend a place to get a good haircut? It's important because I got some internet dates lined up for free girls this week, and I don't want to look like a clown.Dude, don't go to Nana or any of these places if you want a Great Haircut. I suggest you go to Emporium or Paragon to a REAL Hair Salon. Sure, the price will give a heart Attack to many here, but if you want no surprises.
NicFrenchy
05-22-12, 01:50
I am assuming Nick was refering to McDonalds!Yes I was, I thought MickeyD was a widely known nickname for McDonalds. I mean, Even us French know about it hahaha
Dude, don't go to Nana or any of these places if you want a Great Haircut. I suggest you go to Emporium or Paragon to a REAL Hair Salon. Sure, the price will give a heart Attack to many here, but if you want no surprises.A decent haircut can be had in Pattaya on Soi Buakhow for 60 baht; no surprises.
Yes I was, I thought MickeyD was a widely known nickname for McDonalds. I mean, Even us French know about it hahahaYeah, the hysterical French government wanted to prevent the spread of McDonalds restaurants in France because they think it "diminishes French culture." Hahahaha!
Hell, Burger King will diminish it just as much.
Anything American diminishes French culture. But I agree with the French. Disney World sucks!
Tony Hoeprano
05-22-12, 04:09
Burger king is OK, but that Burger King dude in the commercials is dodgy!
Dude, don't go to Nana or any of these places if you want a Great Haircut. I suggest you go to Emporium or Paragon to a REAL Hair Salon. Sure, the price will give a heart Attack to many here, but if you want no surprises.Agreed. Yes, it will set you back 600-1k baht, but you will get a good cut.
LittleBigMan
05-22-12, 12:19
A decent haircut can be had in Pattaya on Soi Buakhow for 60 baht; no surprises.This is new? A flaming war of words over a price of a haircut? 600/1, 000 baht for a haircut hell the Nic and Goat must have one hell of a head of hair? Looking good boys?
LBM
Tony Hoeprano
05-22-12, 16:43
This is new? A flaming war of words over a price of a haircut? 600/1, 000 baht for a haircut hell the Nic and Goat must have one hell of a head of hair? Looking good boys?
LBMTruth be told. You get a point of diminishing returns spending big money on haircuts if you have simple, short hair, and are male. There's no reason anyone moderately skilled could not give me a good haircut. I pay $15 for an excellent haircut in the US, and have paid more a long time ago at a place like Jean Jaurez for like $40 and it was no better than a Great Clips cut.
The only problem in Thailand is there seems to be a plethora of unskilled stylists who have no business having a pair of scissors in hand. I'd say anything up to 550-600 baht is acceptable. 1000 baht and you're just paying for fluff. Still. 550-600 is really pushing it in the 3rd world. Anyways, I gambled and hit up the Thong Lor BTS salon for 100 baht, it was actually OK, but they still need a little guidance, which I'm not used to giving since in the USA, they're skilled enough to use their own discretion.
truth be told, i think its easier getting sex for free than getting a good haircut in BKK!
Truth be told. You get a point of diminishing returns spending big money on haircuts if you have simple, short hair, and are male. There's no reason anyone moderately skilled could not give me a good haircut. I pay $15 for an excellent haircut in the US, and have paid more a long time ago at a place like Jean Jaurez for like $40 and it was no better than a Great Clips cut.
The only problem in Thailand is there seems to be a plethora of unskilled stylists who have no business having a pair of scissors in hand. I'd say anything up to 550-600 baht is acceptable. 1000 baht and you're just paying for fluff. Still. 550-600 is really pushing it in the 3rd world. Anyways, I gambled and hit up the Thong Lor BTS salon for 100 baht, it was actually OK, but they still need a little guidance, which I'm not used to giving since in the USA, they're skilled enough to use their own discretion.
Truth be told, I think its easier getting sex for free than getting a good haircut in BKK!Actually found a cool place today. 250 Baht (plus 50 baht tip). Called Never Say Cutz. Suk 51. Think it is owned by the guy from Thaitanium. I am very pleased with the result and a lot less than I usually pay.
LittleBigMan
05-23-12, 03:12
Truth be told. You get a point of diminishing returns spending big money on haircuts if you have simple, short hair, and are male. There's no reason anyone moderately skilled could not give me a good haircut. I pay $15 for an excellent haircut in the US, and have paid more a long time ago at a place like Jean Jaurez for like $40 and it was no better than a Great Clips cut.
The only problem in Thailand is there seems to be a plethora of unskilled stylists who have no business having a pair of scissors in hand. I'd say anything up to 550-600 baht is acceptable. 1000 baht and you're just paying for fluff. Still. 550-600 is really pushing it in the 3rd world. Anyways, I gambled and hit up the Thong Lor BTS salon for 100 baht, it was actually OK, but they still need a little guidance, which I'm not used to giving since in the USA, they're skilled enough to use their own discretion.
Truth be told, I think its easier getting sex for free than getting a good haircut in BKK!I have some experience in this area regarding training in salons but of course only in Pattaya. But at the same time if Pattaya is any indication it is most likely the same in Bangkok.
I have found that many shops open that the workers are self trained and aren't licensed. And if they aren't self trained they haven't or can't afford the cost of a good school therefore their training is only limited. A good school cost will run you 45, 000 baht just to enroll and doesn't include all the material one needs to complete the course. A good women school takes at least 2 years which trains you for all salons needs and a train one to do hairstyles for weddings. Within that training they are also required to cut hundreds of women / mens hair at local festivals for free.
In Pattaya, there aren't any restriction that I can see that does not allow a shop from opening that is why there are so many shops opening and closing on the same Soi. Many seem to get a sponsor and decide to open without much training. Just like a Thai massage shop you rarely see a license on the wall. I'm lucky at my age I have a crew cut look clean and simple and the ladies here still call me handsome man? It requires just a slap on #1 in ten minutes I'm done but in most salons I worry that she doesn't know how to handle a razor? This is the reason I go to a men Barber, whether they have gone to a good school I'm not sure. Many places I have gone to I know the guy doesn't have a license but through experience is now very skilled. For 70 baht, I like the old fashion Barbers, a haircut, shave and a short neck and shower massages. Most women salons I know don't do enough men cut therefore the lack of experience in style cutting for men/women and of course if they haven't gone to a school wouldn't know how to cut with the newest techniques.To end, going to places as NicFrenchy suggested might charge you more but the workers are most likely licensed. These stylist get a montly wage in general of 15, 000 baht, I know two women from Bangkok who now work at Central Festival in Pattaya.
LBM
Truth be told. You get a point of diminishing returns spending big money on haircuts if you have simple, short hair, and are male. There's no reason anyone moderately skilled could not give me a good haircut. I pay $15 for an excellent haircut in the US, and have paid more a long time ago at a place like Jean Jaurez for like $40 and it was no better than a Great Clips cut.
The only problem in Thailand is there seems to be a plethora of unskilled stylists who have no business having a pair of scissors in hand. I'd say anything up to 550-600 baht is acceptable. 1000 baht and you're just paying for fluff. Still. 550-600 is really pushing it in the 3rd world. Anyways, I gambled and hit up the Thong Lor BTS salon for 100 baht, it was actually OK, but they still need a little guidance, which I'm not used to giving since in the USA, they're skilled enough to use their own discretion.
Truth be told, I think its easier getting sex for free than getting a good haircut in BKK!Tony, one reason I think is the difference between Farang and Thai hair. We tend to have much finer hair than Thais and that requires a ver different approach to styling. Stylists here get little practice with fine hair.
NicFrenchy
05-23-12, 05:51
I pay 300 thb (+100 tip) and have been going to the same shop for years, the girl knows me and I don't even have to ask anything.
I enter the shop, shampoo, she cuts, shampoo again and I'm out.
I go every 2 weeks though.
Ah ok, now I see. You should have mentioned that you would post it later, I made the wrong assumption that the system was contained in that same post. Look forward to hearing it.In that post I was quoting the system of Bowerboy, not mine.
I will post my way later int he week.Gentle reminder. I want to see this system, man!
I studied thai script, they look a little different from other scrips based on sanskrit but they are pronounced the same e. G. SA RE A, SA RE E, etc. And the scripts share the same constructs. The Thai vocabulary has a large of number of its words borrowed from Sanskrit, therefore, many thai words sound familiar to a South Indian speaker of Hindi, Bengali, etc. For example:
SAAMI Which is HUSBAND SWAMI (HINDI)
PANRYA WIFE PREEYA (HINDI) (BTW, the literal pronunciation of the written form PANRAYA is actually PREEYA)
MAHAWITHYALAY SCHOOL / COLLEGE MAHABITHYALAY (HINDI)
As for Sanskrit's European connection, just google "Lithuania and Sanskrit"
You made some good points, but forgive me if I don't swallow that one, as a skeptical type.
Yes Thai script is vaguely similar to Tamil but closer to Laos and Khmer scripts. Of course the languages were spoken long before they had any scripts at all. Scripts were an afterthought.
Quoting Wikipedia:
"The Thai alphabet is derived from the Old Khmer script (akkhara khamen) , which is a southern Brahmic style of writing called Vatteluttu. Vatteluttu was also commonly referred to as the Pallava script by scholars of Southeast Asian studies such as George Coedes.
According to tradition it was created in 1283 by King Ramkhamhaeng the Great "
I do know that many Thai words, especially Khmer influenced, are similar to some Indian language words. E. G. What Arun "The Temple of Dawn". Arun or a very similar word appears in some Indian languages, right? I recall meeting an Indian named Arun, I think. Arun is a not a commonly used Thai word, its more of a stylistic alternate one. Thai has borrowed words from several origins, including many English words. Khmer is one of the strongest due to Khmer dominance of the region in times long gone by. The Thai numbers sound very similar to some Cantonese numbers.
Be aware that after showering in a massage place, that you may smell a bit too nice. Perhaps go for a short fast run to get suitably sweaty to disguise that. Also take a shower just before you leave home, so that you start off smelling nice when you leave, to reduce the difference when you get home. Anyway shower and get clean in Thailand more than you normally do, at least twie a day, but perhaps more times when its very hot.
I often arrive home with some stuff like large paper coffee cup to help explain that I could have wasted time reading the newspaper in the Coffee shop.
Despite all these things my GF is not stupid and knows that if I am not getting enough at home, I am certainly likely to have some naughty recreation. Use condoms and reliable massge places so you don't get the clap. Wash hands and other parts properly afterwards. No one would go home to wife smelling of pussy, surely, no matter how clean the girl seemed?I second all the above. Also:
• If you go to oilies, make sure you use very hot water in the after shower to get it all off. New girls in particular tend to use too much oil and it can linger on the skin. Nothing worse than trying to explain how you got lubed up all over.
• The soaps (at soapies or oilies) have cheap and distinctive fragrances. Take a wrapped bar from your hotel and ask the girl to use that instead.
• Being very loving and considerate, arrange a tour for both of you to something really chick friendly and boring, like a dancing school or yoga class. Then, when the time comes, tell her you're a bit sick, but, being selfless and concerned for her happiness, tell her bravely that you'll be OK, go by yourself.
NicFrenchy
05-23-12, 07:00
Gentle reminder. I want to see this system, man!Yeah, it's not on top of my priority list but eventually I'll get to writing it.
Was with a Badoo girl last weekend and even though she messages me every day, she's not "repeat material"
NicFrenchy
05-23-12, 07:03
Tony, one reason I think is the difference between Farang and Thai hair. We tend to have much finer hair than Thais and that requires a ver different approach to styling. Stylists here get little practice with fine hair.Finer Hair and bigger cocks.
Regular girls here also get little practice with bigger cocks.
LOL.
(Sorry couldn't help myself)
AssLover945
05-23-12, 07:36
I don't believe Pali and Thai are considerd to be in the same language families. Sanskrit and Pali are from the Indo-Aryan family according to Wikipedia (just checked) , but Thai is not.
Forms of Buddhism have spread to many countries, like the spread of Islam and Christianity. Is my home country (Christian dominant) influenced by Palestine / Israel? I don't like to think so.
Yes Thai culture is influenced by Buddhism, but they also believe in pagan spirits. The 5 main Buddhist precepts are broken happily by Thais on a daily basis. Mai Pen RaiIf everything was left to your belief, you would have loved to believe that ancient Indian culture, language, or religion had absolutely no influence on the SE Asian region of Thai, Khmer, Myanmarese, Laotian, Indonesian.
Thankfully no one can believe in your beliefs because FACTS WILL REMAIN FACTS.
Just to add fire to your Anti Indian Tirade.
Indian Origin Pali and sanskrit is still taught in schools here,
Indian Origin Buddhism and Hinduism is still actively practised by Thais everyday.
Ramakian (Epic from India called Ramayana) is a revered Epic in Thailand, with many kings having names of Rama.
Go figure and STFU with your half baked beliefs.
Put knowledge and facts before your so called "beliefs".
NicFrenchy
05-23-12, 07:38
I got the question the other day from a bloke who asked if I could let him know where Pink Massage was. He was affraid to not see it and go too far down the soi.
Now I am not expert but don't people use google maps properly?
In less than a minute, I got right at PINK Massage's doorstep using google maps.
1. Make sure you type the approximate address or area properly: Bangkok sukhumvit soi 24 (see Image 01)
2. You see that Yellow dude in the top left? Drag his ass to the spot where you want to look (See image 02)
3. Browse the streets as if you were walking there! And find what you are looking for (See image 03)
Easy no?
Tony Hoeprano
05-23-12, 08:48
Please tell us more! What lines (lies) do you use to get free chicks?I tell them I'm an English teacher. Weeds out the ones who are strictly after money!
Finer Hair and bigger cocks.
Regular girls here also get little practice with bigger cocks.
LOL.
(Sorry couldn't help myself) 555555 + Great one!
I got the question the other day from a bloke who asked if I could let him know where Pink Massage was. He was affraid to not see it and go too far down the soi.
Now I am not expert but don't people use google maps properly?
In less than a minute, I got right at PINK Massage's doorstep using google maps.
1. Make sure you type the approximate address or area properly: Bangkok sukhumvit soi 24 (see Image 01)
2. You see that Yellow dude in the top left? Drag his ass to the spot where you want to look (See image 02)
3. Browse the streets as if you were walking there! And find what you are looking for (See image 03)
Easy no?Well as you know, you can't drag his arse down little Sois, but you can see to the end of Soi. I tried some time ago and guess from your pics, its still the same. Obviously many ISGers are not compentent to use the internet though. That's why we get a lot of silly questions.
You could paste a link to the Google Maps view, then would be clearer than your snapshots.
Dragged his arse to get this view (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Sukhumvit+Soi+24+Pink+Massage+Bangkok&hl=en&ll=13.729609,100.569384&spn=0.000042,0.014226&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=31.154942,58.271484&hq=Sukhumvit+Soi+24+Pink+Massage&hnear=Bangkok,+Thailand&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=13.729706,100.569425&panoid=YhzJmCq0_r5DPzPbvv3aqg&cbp=12,130.29,,2,1.74)
Sorry I don't write American. An Ass is like a donkey.
Harry Dude
05-24-12, 04:23
Mango isn't really a soapy and when I stopped in the other day, nothing to write home about in the looks department so I left. Check out dream heaven on 33 and opt for nuru massage. They usually have a hot one or two available.I decided to follow Tony's advice and stopped by Dream Heaven in Soi 33 about 5 days ago, wanting to try the Nuru gel massage.
I rather pretty girl with a very nice slender body greeted me, and we agreed on the 90 minute Nuru treatment.
In the room, she said she was 22 years old, and I think she said her name was 'Nam'. I could not find her picture on their web site. She had the most gorgeous breasts I have seen in a long time. Natural, firm, perky, absolutely perfect young girl's breasts. The rest of her body was delightful too, no stretch marks, no scars, no sagging anywhere. My hopes were high.
But, there were to be several disappointments. While she did clean me thoroughly there was no play in the shower. She was very timid, maybe inexperienced, or maybe the chemistry between us just didn't work. Even worse, I don't think the Nuru gel they use is real Nuru. It dries up and becomes semi-sticky rather quickly, so the whole Nuru experience was not what I expected. There was a few minutes of body-to-body sliding which was enjoyable, but when we then went for the intercourse, there was no gel left. Just a slightly sticky film on our bodies.
So for those wanting a real Nuru experience I would not recommend Dream Heaven.
I decided to follow Tony's advice and stopped by Dream Heaven in Soi 33 about 5 days ago, wanting to try the Nuru gel massage.
So for those wanting a real Nuru experience I would not recommend Dream Heaven.I totally agree. If someone is looking for a nuru massage then Dream Heaven seems to be the worst option. One time I opted the nuru at DH Soi 33 and it was one of the biggest mistakes I ever done in BKK. After the session I complained to mamasan and her only one answer was: 'come tomorrow, I will train the girls'. I just think, DH is a place for sex, not for nuru. Colonze seems to be only one place (correct me if I'm wrong) where we can have a real nuru massage.
Cheers.
T. 72
Harry Dude
05-24-12, 11:09
don't comdem the place. Its all about the girl.
Although your description LEFt out what her face looked like. Many times I walk that area looking for a decent looking light skin girl 4 an afternoon massage-still haven't found one. Hahahahaha!Well, in this case it wasn't just about the girl. What they advertise as Nuru gel is not really Nuru gel, hence it follows that the Nuru massage isn't really Nuru massage. So my conclusion is still that DHM33 is not a good option for Nuru massage, even if the girl had been skilled in the art.
Her face was not unattractive. She had a small piercing with a small diamond-ish stud in her right nostril. Light skin. I don't remember much more about her face. I was literally focusing on her breasts. She might very well fit your requirements for "a decent looking light skinned girl".
I just think, DH is a place for sex, not for nuru.I was looking for both. Lots of hot, fun, slippery, body-to-body "massage" first, immediately followed by equally juicy, wet, slippery sex.
Got some questions for anyone who's frequented Pink massage on sukhumvit. Was looking into trying it out (not interested in PSE places).
Not in the mood right now for FS, maybe just a massage + a HJ or two.
Does any pink massage regulars know what the services are and how much? I don't want to pay for a FS session if I can just pay for a cheapie HJ or two. Any a la carte service I suppose? Do they also do 2 girl HJ?
Crocodilexp
05-24-12, 20:18
If a Thai woman can find a Thai man that treats her well and has money, she would normally rather be with them. Spent much time in Bangkok? Thais with money want to have very little to do with Farang. This people here are very xenophobic. Perhaps not as much as the Japanese or Koreans, but not trailing by much.Xenophobia is active dislike towards foreigners. Just having racial prejudices is not the same thing. Being a Farang in itself is not a disadvantage in Thailand (unless you're doing business, in which case being non-Chinese and not having connections is a handicap). It is quite often an advantage.
For lower-class Thai girls, we're sort of saviors, both in terms of money, and in liking the type of looks that desirable Thai guys don't care much for. As for Thais with money, they are far less enthusiastic about Farang, but closer to indifference than to active dislike.
A Thai princess used to be married to an American. At least one of the women from the CP Group family (richest in Thailand) is married to an American (of an appropriate social status). Xenophobic? Hardly.
To be blunt, many, if not most of us expats here are NOT cream-of-the-crop in any society. And tend to go for ugliest women within the underclass of the Thai society (who are still better than what they could get in the West). Farang also have an objective language / communication style disadvantage. However, with Thai women, being a Farang is not a disadvantage at all if you speak Thai and develop some cultural sensitivities. Very few Thai women of comparable social status would reject you as a suitor just based on being white. NOT the case in most other countries.
NicFrenchy
05-24-12, 20:59
But, there were to be several disappointments. While she did clean me thoroughly there was no play in the shower. She was very timid, maybe inexperienced, or maybe the chemistry between us just didn't work. Even worse, I don't think the Nuru gel they use is real Nuru.Ahahahahahaha Sorry I missed that original post, I could have to ld you right oft To Avoid Dream Heaven 33 altogether, not only for Nuru. There are so many better places in BKK.
NicFrenchy
05-24-12, 21:06
If you want Real Nuru Gel Massage in BKK, check this out (use Google Translate caus its in Thai)
http://www.thainuruclub.com/nuruplace.php
Colonze2 and Emmanuelle (soapys) also have a Real Nuru Gel offer
Tony Hoeprano
05-25-12, 05:24
don't comdem the place. Its all about the girl.
Although your description LEFt out what her face looked like. Many times I walk that area looking for a decent looking light skin girl 4 an afternoon massage-still haven't found one. Hahahahaha!Come on man, you know ya got to leave sukhumvit for the light skinned babes. Might as well be like Linus waiting for the Great Pumpkin to appear lol
Ahahahahahaha Sorry I missed that original post, I could have to ld you right oft To Avoid Dream Heaven 33 altogether, not only for Nuru. There are so many better places in BKK.Hmmm. I never had a bad experience here. I guess YMMV
NicFrenchy
05-25-12, 09:01
Hmmm. I never had a bad experience here. I guess YMMVWell, it isn't about YMMV if you go for NURU and they don't even have real NURU Gel. It's call false advertizing. But this is Thailand so I'm not even surprised.
NicFrenchy
05-25-12, 09:08
Got some questions for anyone who's frequented Pink massage on sukhumvit. Was looking into trying it out (not interested in PSE places).
Not in the mood right now for FS, maybe just a massage + a HJ or two.
Does any pink massage regulars know what the services are and how much? I don't want to pay for a FS session if I can just pay for a cheapie HJ or two. Any a la carte service I suppose? Do they also do 2 girl HJ?I don't suggest you do that. PINK Massage is a FS Place or at least a Body to Body with BJ. If you go there asking for a HJ, the girl will be pissed as this is a loss of income for her.
You will take her out of the available lineup for a couple hours and she's only going to make 500. (unless you're ready to compensate with at least 1, 000)
PS: I am not taking the side of the MP, I am just saying what the girl will think.
There is a nice HJ Place around Thonglor Called JJ Massage and that offers a Special Oil MAssage with 2 HJ included. http://raku2.tv/?p=294
Or you can go to a nice Massage Shop like Apsorn in soi 24 and the girls give HJ and BJ there.
I don't suggest you do that. PINK Massage is a FS Place or at least a Body to Body with BJ. If you go there asking for a HJ, the girl will be pissed as this is a loss of income for her.
You will take her out of the available lineup for a couple hours and she's only going to make 500. (unless you're ready to compensate with at least 1, 000)
PS: I am not taking the side of the MP, I am just saying what the girl will think.
There is a nice HJ Place around Thonglor Called JJ Massage and that offers a Special Oil MAssage with 2 HJ included.
http://raku2.tv/?p=294
Or you can go to a nice Massage Shop like Apsorn in soi 24 and the girls give HJ and BJ there.Thanks for the update Nic. Whats your opinion of the girls at those two places vs Pink? To me, having good girls is the most important, I don't mind paying a little extra for service from someone higher end looking. Also, are all these places pretty clean STD wise?
If everything was left to your belief, you would have loved to believe that ancient Indian culture, language, or religion had absolutely no influence on the SE Asian region of Thai, Khmer, Myanmarese, Laotian, Indonesian.
Thankfully no one can believe in your beliefs because FACTS WILL REMAIN FACTS.
Just to add fire to your Anti Indian Tirade.
Indian Origin Pali and sanskrit is still taught in schools here,
Indian Origin Buddhism and Hinduism is still actively practised by Thais everyday.
Ramakian (Epic from India called Ramayana) is a revered Epic in Thailand, with many kings having names of Rama.
Go figure and STFU with your half baked beliefs.
Put knowledge and facts before your so called "beliefs".Facts remain facts. Pali may be taught in schools but its not very close to Thai language at all.
Its a fact that Pali is from Indo-Aryan family and Thai is not. I looked up information to confirm that.
As I explained the Pali vowel structure is greatly simpler than Thai and Tones are either not use or not important in Pali.
What "Anti-Indian Tirade". It seems like you are the one launching into a tirade. I work with Indians and one is a close friend. I don't have anything against Indians.
I accepted that Buddhism influences Thai culture. Do you really think Indian Culture is similar to Thai? Thais seem to disagree. Ancient history is not so relevant today.
Ok. Whatever you said. But why the nefarious odor so common to the natives?I don't know but I am sure that while in Thailand the natives find plenty of opportunity to get laid for money. Thank god for the sympathetic Thai girls.
Thanks for the update Nic. Whats your opinion of the girls at those two places vs Pink? To me, having good girls is the most important, I don't mind paying a little extra for service from someone higher end looking. Also, are all these places pretty clean STD wise?Nic only likes one girl at Pink, same as me, but not everybody's taste is the same. Why not have a look at the pics and decide for yourself. Pink is not the place for Massage and HJ unless you want to pay for FS anyway, without getting it. The best top end girls are making big money. 6000 Baht per day and up, so they don't want to waste valuable time on a 500 Baht HJ. Nic kindly recommended some place suited for HJ. I wouldn't know, as I never wanted just a HJ.
No one really knows the STD situation. Can't rely on rumours. Wear a condom. Chlamydia is not unusual and very easy to catch, without precautions. Gonorreah was caught by my buddy recently within first couple of days in Thailand (no condoms). He knows how to pick 'em.
I second all the above. Also:
• If you go to oilies, make sure you use very hot water in the after shower to get it all off. New girls in particular tend to use too much oil and it can linger on the skin. Nothing worse than trying to explain how you got lubed up all over.
• The soaps (at soapies or oilies) have cheap and distinctive fragrances. Take a wrapped bar from your hotel and ask the girl to use that instead.
• Being very loving and considerate, arrange a tour for both of you to something really chick friendly and boring, like a dancing school or yoga class. Then, when the time comes, tell her you're a bit sick, but, being selfless and concerned for her happiness, tell her bravely that you'll be OK, go by yourself.Its safer to get a lotion massage.
At MPs they often use Shokubutsu liquid soap, or other similar brands. I don't like the Ginkgo scented one.
I invite my GF to certain functions that I know she will refuse, and then I can skip the function also or leave early.
NicFrenchy
05-26-12, 02:24
Thanks for the update Nic. Whats your opinion of the girls at those two places vs Pink? To me, having good girls is the most important, I don't mind paying a little extra for service from someone higher end looking. Also, are all these places pretty clean STD wise?Picking / liking a girl is very subjective, I may love a girl and you may hate her because contrary to what people think, these girls don't give the same level of service to every customer.
Making the girls comfortable, joking, laughing, teasing will be "Sanook" for the girl and she will let herself go into the session.
If you just go there, tell your name, go shower and go lay there waiting for your massage and then wait for her to flip you over and offer extras, she's going to be bored and go through the motions like a robot.
I'd say if all you want is a HJ by a very cute girl, then you have to go to a THAI massage joint (one where the Thai guys go).
You'll have very pretty girls, but the MO is different.
You go there, you get a so so massage by a very cute girl and at the end she gives you a HJ. You need to tip her to take her clothes off.
Some places, TOP is 1000 and bottom is another 1000. Can be pricey.
Mr Enternational
05-26-12, 05:44
Whats the boots on the ground report of USA dollar to baht exchange rate? On web I see you get 31 plus now.Last night 31.5 THB = 1 USD
Facts remain facts. Pali may be taught in schools but its not very close to Thai language at all.I asked the 12 year old daughter of GF about Pali Language. They recite / chant it in prayers to the Buddha. Does she understand its meaning? Only slightly, because monks at the temple often say something in Pali and then say it again in Thai so that the Thais understand. Also Thai may have borrowed a few words from Pali, just like it borrows words from English. It has never been taught to her at school. At school she studies Thai, English and Chinese. Its a middle class school. Not free, but not the most expensive exclusive school with Farang students. Maybe some higher level schools teach Pali as an optional subject. The structure of Pali words is very unlike Thai according to my internet research.
Sorry to be off topic but this is the "Miscellaneous Off Topic" thread, right? We rarely have good mongering reports here these days.
I invite my GF to certain functions that I know she will refuse, and then I can skip the function also or leave early.
LMAO. You guys are evil ;)
Went to Nana last night. Why I'm not sure?
Rainbow 4 had very few really pretty girls at 8PM but improved as it got later. I would rate 10% of the girls as really good looking (I'm talking about the face) , and the remainder as average. Most girls there do have reasonable bodies though. Girls with great tits, only about 10% too. The 10% of girls with silicones don't impress me, but luckily is just 10% or so.
One pretyy girl with great tits, was quickly called out off the podium by a Japanese customer (I'm guessing). She was quickly bar-fined and back there within an hour max. Probably less (I didn't have a stop-watch handy). Although I have had a nice girl long time from RB4, I see the pattern that top girls there are looking for very quick turn-over STs to make as much money as possible.
I get much better enthusiastic sex from girls at Soi Cowboy, particularly from girls at Baccarat, Suzi Wong, Shebas, Doll's House. Not sure why. Maybe RB4 is not the best place at Nana to find girls that are enthusiastic fuckers and will give a good 2-3 hour ST.
Had a quick look at Nana Car Park girls. Was early but a couple of reasonable lookers. Most very ordinary. The big difference from Rainbow 4 and Nana car park is that car park girls often have poor bodies. High percentage were either over weight or well under weight. A small percentage looked okay No one stunning of course.
Manfield04
05-26-12, 08:33
Such behaviour cannot be condoned. These people should have been reported to the police or the appropriate authorities so that they be banned from entering Thailand. They create bad opinion on foreigners in Thailand.
However, I don't think all Indians are like these morons. There might be others who are genuine gentlemen, whose behaviour would be exemplary.
We have morons in all countries.
What these morons thought they would gain from their loutish, unacceptable behavior is a mystery to me. By the time they left, they had thoroughly alienated every customer and all of the hotel staff working in the vicinity of the argument.
Wolvenvacht
05-26-12, 08:49
If you go to oilies, make sure you use very hot water in the after shower to get it all off.Ever tried to get *real* hot water out of a Thai shower? Most, at best, manage only a little warm. So you will have to use lots of soap to get the oil off and you always miss some hard to reach spots. Finally you end up both lubed and scented. Try to explain that at home.
NicFrenchy
05-26-12, 09:17
Ever tried to get *real* hot water out of a Thai shower? Most, at best, manage only a little warm. So you will have to use lots of soap to get the oil off and you always miss some hard to reach spots. Finally you end up both lubed and scented. Try to explain that at home.The most common mistake made by guys is that they think the problem is the oil scent. It's not.
You don't have to smell clean, you need to smell like usual. Your missus will smell it immediately if you used another soap.
Bring your own soap so that you smell like you always smell at home. THAT is the way to fly under the Radar.
Went to Nana last night. Why I'm not sure?
One pretyy girl with great tits, was quickly called out off the podium by a Japanese customer (I'm guessing). She was quickly bar-fined and back there within an hour max. Probably less (I didn't have a stop-watch handy). Although I have had a nice girl long time from RB4, I see the pattern that top girls there are looking for very quick turn-over STs to make as much money as possible.A win win situation for the bar too, cashing multi-BF in the same evening through the same girl. Her, being a gogo, gets also more cash per round than not coming back to the bar and act as a FL around, since it is perceived that a gogo girl can ask far more money than a FL staying a few meters away in Nana car Park. Regardless of performances as we know YMMV.
Xenophobia is active dislike towards foreigners. Just having racial prejudices is not the same thing. Being a Farang in itself is not a disadvantage in Thailand (unless you're doing business, in which case being non-Chinese and not having connections is a handicap). It is quite often an advantage.
For lower-class Thai girls, we're sort of saviors, both in terms of money, and in liking the type of looks that desirable Thai guys don't care much for. As for Thais with money, they are far less enthusiastic about Farang, but closer to indifference than to active dislike.
A Thai princess used to be married to an American. At least one of the women from the CP Group family (richest in Thailand) is married to an American (of an appropriate social status). Xenophobic? Hardly.
To be blunt, many, if not most of us expats here are NOT cream-of-the-crop in any society. And tend to go for ugliest women within the underclass of the Thai society (who are still better than what they could get in the West). Farang also have an objective language / communication style disadvantage. However, with Thai women, being a Farang is not a disadvantage at all if you speak Thai and develop some cultural sensitivities. Very few Thai women of comparable social status would reject you as a suitor just based on being white. NOT the case in most other countries.You have a the typical view of a lot of the expats I meet in Thailand. Your view is somewhat informed but still heavily flawed. You say that foreigners are the saviors of lower class Thai girls because only we like the way they look? So how exactly do all those Thai to Thai marriages happen here? All those full blooded Thai babies running around? Thai guys are attracted to all types of Thai women. You are taking the preferences of maybe the top 1% of Thai men and then using that to determine what beauty is. I really don't care what rich Thai guys want, that's as stupid as me going back home and then assuming that the only beautiful women there are the girlfriends of big shots, movie stars and other members of the top 1% at home. Have you ever gone out of the tourist zones like Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket and such, and had a look around at the Thai couples? Can you really say that the Thai guys are only with girls who are tall, white and slim with straight noses? I'll answer that for you. No. And also can you really say the girls that they are with are all ugly because they don't fit the spec?
You say Thais with money are indifferent to foreigners and my first thought when I read this is where are you from, my second thought was how much money is the cutoff to become a "Thai with money"? Because wherever it is that you are from I can guarantee that rich people there will be indifferent to you as well, if you aren't rich of course. It's safe to say that if you don't mingle with rich people back home then you won't do it here in Thailand either. It has nothing to do with the culture, it's just that monied people stick together for the most part.
You say most westerners here are not the cream of the crop of our societies but guess what? Most Thais here aren't the cream of the crop in their own societies. If you or the people you know here go for ugly women then that is their decision. I can state from my end that me and my friends and colleagues here do not spring after ugly women. Have some of the women been outside of the specifications that the the top 1% of men seem to like? Yes. But they were definitely not ugly. But seems to reason that if the people you associate with are older foreigners then they will accept a girl who may not be the best looking simply because they are happy just to be having sex with a woman half their age. You made a lot of references to social status. I'm not sure if you were saying that because you actually believe in such a thing or if you just mean income level. I'm not white or Asian and have zero issues going after women that I find attractive regardless of whether or not they know about my "social status".
To any guys who read your post and started thinking that everything is predetermined by social status or income level I would just like to add this. If you have no problems getting a good woman back home then you will no problems doing the same here. If you have difficulties getting women back home then you won't be able to come here and get the top non-workin girls but you will be able to spend a few baht and spend some time with some perfectly fine working girls until you evaluate what's holding you back.
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To any guys who read your post and started thinking that everything is predetermined by social status or income level I would just like to add this. If you have no problems getting a good woman back home then you will no problems doing the same here. If you have difficulties getting women back home then you won't be able to come here and get the top non-workin girls but you will be able to spend a few baht and spend some time with some perfectly fine working girls until you evaluate what's holding you back.I think all that was well said and I mostly agree, particular with the last part. I would just add the, perhaps minor point, that at least in my experience (and if I understand you correctly, you would not be in a position to easily confirm this) , as a whitey you do more or less automatically move up a notch on the 1 to 10 looks scale from some (but far from all) women's point of view. A considerable amount of women here are attracted to white skin and western style noses, which gives guys like me a slight bonus in the meeting game here in Thailand, while that is no bonus to me where I come from, as the majority of men have those features.
NicFrenchy
05-26-12, 17:07
All Upper-Class Thais went to school Overseas so they have been exposed to White skin already.
One common mistake many expats make is that they think they know Thailand and thai people, well, I know only a few expats that know Thais extensively (they speak Thai, Lao, Issan.) and even they would tell you that there is no way for a Farang to be treated / Accepted fully by a Thai Family.
As far as I am concerned, I don't give a shit about all that. I have money, I am happy with my job and my life here, that's all that matters.
A considerable amount of women here are attracted to white skin and western style noses, which gives guys like me a slight bonus in the meeting game here in Thailand, while that is no bonus to me where I come from, as the majority of men have those features.Women are the same the world over. What is so hard to understand. They can spot a loser no matter what shape or size or color of the nose. Alpha females attracted to alpha males. IF you're living in a swollen out of shape or spindly dessicated body, cheap bad-fitting clothes, a lifetime lowlife prole you will attract the same quality women no matter where in the world you are. Some women may be attracted to a two-thousand-a-month pension, which gives guys like this a slight bonus.
Does anyone think agogo girls are not in it 4 the money?
You got to be freaking insane.Pardon me? Where did you read that?
Fun Filled
05-26-12, 23:28
Facts remain facts. Pali may be taught in schools but its not very close to Thai language at all.
Its a fact that Pali is from Indo-Aryan family and Thai is not. I looked up information to confirm that.
As I explained the Pali vowel structure is greatly simpler than Thai and Tones are either not use or not important in Pali.
What "Anti-Indian Tirade". It seems like you are the one launching into a tirade. I work with Indians and one is a close friend. I don't have anything against Indians.
I accepted that Buddhism influences Thai culture. Do you really think Indian Culture is similar to Thai? Thais seem to disagree. Ancient history is not so relevant today.Yes I totally agree with you that Buddhism influences Thai culture but for you information lord Buddha was Indian. You will find temples of lord Ganesha, Vishnu and Ram in Thailand. I am not an expert but here what I find on Wikipedia. Buddhism is a religion and philosophy indigenous to the Indian subcontinent and encompasses a variety of traditions, beliefs, and practices largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, who is commonly known as the Buddha (meaning "the awakened one" in Sanskrit and P&257; li). The Buddha lived and taught in the eastern part of Indian subcontinent some time between the 6th and 4th centuries BCE. [1] He is recognized by Buddhists as an awakened or enlightened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beings end ignorance (avidy&257, craving (ta&7751; h&257, and suffering (dukkha) , by recognizing dependent origination and sunyata, and attain Nirvana.
No offense but it can't be the NOSE of the farang. Not once have I heard a thai mother or thai father put type of nose as a major positive factor.It is your nose and skin. Smile and teeth. Most people from the west had braces as children. Girls want a man, they might make a baby with.
In my 30 years of living in America, not one person ever told me they like my eye lashes. Not my mom, grandmother, no one. I never even thought about it myself. But here in Thailand, almost any girl I meet will comment on the length of my eyelashes. They will giggle and say I look like a doll.
I look like a average falang.
You forgot. MaNY thai girls types that marry farang also like the western concept of social security paychecks. Hahahahaha!
No offense but it can't be the NOSE of the farang. Not once have I heard a thai mother or thai father put type of nose as a major positive factor.
Do all of you post in jest or are you guys really serious?Nose is DEFINITELY a factor. That is fairly common knowledge.
Why you think so many Thai girls have nose jobs?
Dear BKK mates, Its been nearly 4 years I didn't go Bangkok.
I'm from KL and will be visiting BKK in mid June and will be staying at silom.
Any good or popular places for a massage+HJ or FJ?
Or I don't mind going some where out of silom but make sure its easy to reach by cab.
I can remember years ago when some of my thai friends brought me to a place called tarawadee. Is this place still exist?
Dear BKK mates, Its been nearly 4 years I didn't go Bangkok.
I'm from KL and will be visiting BKK in mid June and will be staying at silom.
Any good or popular places for a massage+HJ or FJ?
Or I don't mind going some where out of silom but make sure its easy to reach by cab.
I can remember years ago when some of my thai friends brought me to a place called tarawadee. Is this place still exist?You have got to be kidding me? RTFF man, its all there.
Dash Riprock
05-27-12, 04:47
Tarawadee is still there. The base sideliner price might be higher than it was when you last went. Was it 3700 Baht the last time you visited, that's what it's at now?
Quality still decent as it's out of the way and has a pretty solid client base of business owners and players from that area.
Dear BKK mates, Its been nearly 4 years I didn't go Bangkok. I'm from KL and will be visiting BKK in mid June and will be staying at silom. Any good or popular places for a massage+HJ or FJ? Or I don't mind going some where out of silom but make sure its easy to reach by cab. I can remember years ago when some of my thai friends brought me to a place called tarawadee. Is this place still exist?Surawong Road has a lot of massage shops between Soi Thaniya and Silom Soi 6. Good prices and big staffs (women and men).
There are a number of shops along lower Silom, past Narathiwas Road. Check between the Pullman Hotel (old Sofitel) and the Narai Hotel. Diamond, Happy and Lisa Massage all have willing practitioners.
There are even a few new "legit" looking massage shops on Patpong 1.
I like to go to "Money Massage." It's in the little shopping complex next to the Thai Airways office on the corner of Silom and Naratiwas. Good prices and clean.
For FS, try Plaza on Patpong 2, Versailles near Wat Hualamphong, Ben Ten on Silom Soi 6, JC on Surawong. Most of the oilies will do FS, too, if you pick the right girl (just ask).
"Oil" massage is almost universal for HJ happy ending, but you might ask just in case. I can't help you with recommendations for FJ? You'll have to ask at the shops about this. ;)
All Upper-Class Thais went to school Overseas so they have been exposed to White skin already.
One common mistake many expats make is that they think they know Thailand and thai people, well, I know only a few expats that know Thais extensively (they speak Thai, Lao, Issan.) and even they would tell you that there is no way for a Farang to be treated / Accepted fully by a Thai Family.
As far as I am concerned, I don't give a shit about all that. I have money, I am happy with my job and my life here, that's all that matters.Correct. There is no assimilation here. That one of the things that separates Thailand from the West.
As far as education is concerned many upper class Thais go to school overseas and it has a positive effect on a FEW of them. Many, even when overseas, hang out with TThais only and never attempt much exploration of another culture. This tends not to be true with the kids educated in an International School here. They are taught in English and tend to be far more switched on. Some of them don't want to return to Thailand after Uni in the West as they like not being constrained by their rigid social system and their parents.
One common mistake many expats make is that they think they know Thailand and thai people, well, I know only a few expats that know Thais extensively (they speak Thai, Lao, Issan.) and even they would tell you that there is no way for a Farang to be treated / Accepted fully by a Thai Family.
No different from anywhere else in the world really. No matter who you marry back home your family will never really think of them as being as much a part of the family as you are. Sure they will be nice and cordial with your spouse but that's just good manners basically. If the marriage ends very seldom would contact with the family continue unless there were kids involved.
A lot of people have skewed views on this subject because most of them only come in contact with marriages between foreigners and Thai women who are half their age. Of course the Thai family will never fully accept that. Because on one hand they don't want their daughters to be stuck in a relationship with someone twice their age and possibly uniformed about Thai culture/language however, they tolerate it because they do want their daughter (and them) to be well taken care of.
All Upper-Class Thais went to school Overseas so they have been exposed to White skin already.Any Thais that live around or have been to an area with tourist have been exposed to white skin. It's really a myth that if you are white you are automatically more attractive to Thais. Sure there are some differences that Thais notice and may like. Eye color is a big one. But don't think that if you are white with blue or green eyes that it will automatically place you in the "most attractive males" category. People are full packages so if you have those sparkling azure eyes but you weigh about 150kg on a 170cm frame then girls will most likely comment on your eyes because that's the only thing they find attractive about you.
There are definitely Thai women that prefer foreigners just as there are westerners that prefer Asian women but, it's not a given.
I think all that was well said and I mostly agree, particular with the last part. I would just add the, perhaps minor point, that at least in my experience (and if I understand you correctly, you would not be in a position to easily confirm this) , as a whitey you do more or less automatically move up a notch on the 1 to 10 looks scale from some (but far from all) women's point of view. A considerable amount of women here are attracted to white skin and western style noses, which gives guys like me a slight bonus in the meeting game here in Thailand, while that is no bonus to me where I come from, as the majority of men have those features.I can comment as I work in quite a mixed environment and go out with friends of all shapes, sizes, colors and nationalities. You do move up but not necessarily on the looks scale. You move up because prosperous western countries are predominately white. So some Thais will automatically assume that you are also prosperous and therefore deserve a higher spot on the "worthy mate" scale.
NicFrenchy
05-27-12, 07:55
But don't think that if you are white with blue or green eyes that it will automatically place you in the "most attractive males" category. People are full packages so if you have those sparkling azure eyes but you weigh about 150kg on a 170cm frame then girls will most likely comment on your eyes because that's the only thing they find attractive about you.I disagree, you cannot generalize on this. Different girls like different things.
There are definitely Thai women that prefer foreigners just as there are westerners that prefer Asian women but, it's not a given.I think Thai girls always like their own kind first. Until they get burned and change to liking Foreigners, thinking they will be better than Thai guys. Nothing to do with skin color, eye color or dick size here.
Wolvenvacht
05-27-12, 08:30
There are definitely Thai women that prefer foreigners just as there are westerners that prefer Asian women but, it's not a given.And of course on this forum, there will be a majority of members that favour Asian women of the flat-nosed, tanned-skin, smaller frame variety. On the other hand; the women we meet and discuss here, will most likely have a bias for farang (for all the well known good and wrong reasons: looks, position, perceived wealth, manners, ...). But just as "Asian lovers" are a minority in our world, "farang lovers" will be a minority in Thailand.
Saying that Thai women will -given the chance- always prefer Thai men, is as wrong as claiming that all the Members of this forum have chosen Thai girls as a poor "second choice" because none of us can get a Western woman.
Nose is DEFINITELY a factor. That is fairly common knowledge.
Why you think so many Thai girls have nose jobs?Damn, and all this time I was thinking it was the nose below the belt.
Tony Hoeprano
05-27-12, 08:46
Went out with a friend and his mate to Route 66, who are professional pickup artists. Despite the eye candy, this has to be the worst place in BKK trying to pickup girls. On Saturday nights, its too crowded, too loud, and the girls are often in groups, not really wanting to venture outside their little clique, or the girls just looking for Thai guys and not into foreign guys. I was surprised to see quite a few black fellows in this place, but they seemed well groomed and dressed, not shady like the ones on lower sukhumvit. Probably not long before seeing an uptick in half black / thai babies running around. Pretty much got no action, a few smiles here and there but that's about it. The other dude, professional pickup artists got clever and rubbed an ice cube on a girls bare shoulder and she immediately put her hand up saying stop.
At closing time, we went our separate ways, I still felt energetic and slightly buzzing, then took a cab to Climax. I saw a a girl was walking out and she said she's going to Spicey. I've never been there and decided what the hell. She said we could take a cab there and then had the driver pick up one of her girlfriends nearby. She was bragging to me how she has MANY sponsors, one American seeing her in a month, another guy from England in 2 months, and an Italian in a few weeks. This chick wasn't even all that too, amazing how these sharks can lure so many guys for sponsorship!!!
Arived to Spicey and at the Entry, the 2 girls assumed I would pay their entry fee of 300 baht each and I told the cashier I wasn't with them. I told her sorry that's more than my momma allows me to spend in one night. The nerve of some of these gals just to share a cab ride and they expect me to pay entry fee! She was a bit miffed and said to pay for the taxi and I said sure I'll pay my share and threw her 40 baht. This place reminded me of a warehouse that was renovated for Halloween time. It seemed like a decent place with a mix of good girls and freelancers. Got a free Heineken with the 300 fee and walked around and saw a hot girl in a miniskirt standing there with her 3 friends. Danced a little and then went to the lobby to chat, she started to get a bit distant, so we went back in and parted ways, walked around some more and then ran into her again she grabbed my arm then started to dance some more, this girl was a hot little tan skinned girl, said she was from Hat Yai I think. I'm fairly certain it was, but don't hold me to it.
It was getting late (early) and I started to tire, I thought the chemistry started to click again, and thought I'd just get her number, weather she was p4p or not, I still wanted to see her again for sex play. To my surprise, she said she would come with me and I was pretty happy about that. Once we arrived to my condo, we drank some more vodka, then started getting frisky, and things were about starting to heat up. Or so it thought haha. She started to complain she was drunk and tired and then said she had to go home. LOL She left, offered to exchange numbers, but I declined. I think in hindsight I should have exchanged, but her abrupt change of demeanor really turned me off and maybe when its all said and done its not a big deal.
I end up passing out drunk and just ordered some McDonalds for breakfast LOL
NicFrenchy
05-27-12, 09:36
The other dude, professional pickup artists got clever and rubbed an ice cube on a girls bare shoulder and she immediately put her hand up saying stop.That got me laughing out loud. Professional pickup artist? From which league? What's the salary like? As an amateur, I'm interested.
Also, looks to me that the professional who "Got Clever" was just as dumb as the next guy. Rubbing ice on a Thai girl's bare shoulder in public? Mmmhhhh I'm not surprised the girl gave him a cold shoulder.
I think Thai girls always like their own kind first. Until they get burned and change to liking Foreigners, thinking they will be better than Thai guys. Nothing to do with skin color, eye color or dick size here.
This is a key point. Thai girls get fed up with selfishness of Thai men and are then prepared to try Farangs, if they seem more considerate and more honest. Others are just looking for a guy with money I guess. Some girls just become very wary of all men in general. There are good guys out there to be had. A mate of mine was an extremely good guy, but lacking great ability to charm the girls in his home country. He got snapped up very quickly by the female manager of the Bungaloes (with daugther already) where he stayed in his 2nd day in Thailand. They are long married now. I don't particularly like his wife (too stingy and too sarcastic) but she was a great judge of male character and gave him little chance to escape, I guess.
One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.
Member #4387
05-27-12, 12:54
I guess professional pickupartist is my dream to become or what I try to pretend I am, hehe. No offence.
Atleast sometimes I manage to pick up girls (not all the the time hitting a freebie / or "normal" girl will succeed. I sometimes get turned down in Thailand, Norway or anywhere else for that matter. Same same). What I have learned, and this especially goes for Thailand, is that you never touch a girl in public without her permission. In Thailand this means loose face if she is with other people.
Rubbing a little ice on her shoulder is ofcourse not worth killing (and most certanly will the girl treat is as a irritating gesture. Atleast I am pretty sure it did not drew any positive attention whatsoever. In Norway we sometimes, atleast when we were younger, slapped some womens arses in public, discoes and such. No problem. I don't think I would try that one in Thailand.
LittleBigMan
05-27-12, 13:13
This is a key point. Thai girls get fed up with selfishness of Thai men and are then prepared to try Farangs, if they seem more considerate and more honest. Others are just looking for a guy with money I guess. Some girls just become very wary of all men in general. There are good guys out there to be had. A mate of mine was an extremely good guy, but lacking great ability to charm the girls in his home country. He got snapped up very quickly by the female manager of the Bungaloes (with daugther already) where he stayed in his 2nd day in Thailand. They are long married now. I don't particularly like his wife (too stingy and too sarcastic) but she was a great judge of male character and gave him little chance to escape, I guess.
One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.Last year in the Bangkok Post there was a article regarding a topic sucha as this being discussed. Particular how useless Thai men were and how sick and tired and they better start to step up. The article also revealed that with the increase number of Korean soap operas being showed on Thai T. V. That many are fascinated and have a romance derived from watching these soaps that Koreans and others Asian men like Japanese and Chinese are becoming more popular. Many feel they look like us and have money to spend and seem to take care of business.
A few month back a similar conversation was going and someone said something to let this " better looking and stronger " it got me thinking and when I'm at some of the popular gogos I watch the girls with the Asian guys. Although there are old one I see a lot of the girls having a pretty good time with these other Asian who seem to be in the same age group as the girls working? Are they ugly I don't know but when one thinks about the article and can see a Thai women point that we look like them and seem to have money to spend. In essence they are halfway there, right!
The article goes on and state that it's not all wine and roses and many who have traveled abroard, like Korea have found out that that Koreans are pretty big butterflies themselves and can be abusive towards their women. Many have return disillusion! Being Asian I believe that women in Asia would rather stay with their own kind. If a situation arised Thai man and money staying in Thailand or Thai women and Farang I would Thai man with money!
In the end, it still the money! As for myself being asian and speaking some Thai and live here they all seem happy to meet me and say I'm nearly 100%Thai, but when I tell them my priority before they get any ideas I'm left with a empty glass and no girl. This is good and bad I don't have to buy more than one drink but I have to work harder to get them to stay?
Its not your white skin and good looks with your perfect nose it begins and ends with the $$$$$$
LBM
Dash Riprock
05-27-12, 13:14
One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.Love blinds people. It's that same blindness that leads guys (often foreigners) to buy property in a local gal's name only to be burned a few years down the road, often dumped for another foreign fellow or in many cases another local fellow.
To each his own I suppose.
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