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Paul Kausch
01-20-13, 21:37
I have read anecdotal reports of American punters getting "the business" upon their return to the United States after traveling to Thailand. I would be interested in additional details from Mr. Maximus.

What, exactly, did the authorities do that you thought was a hassle? Random nasty comments from government employees while going through the usual formalities? Pointed questioning regarding your activities while abroad? Referral to secondary inspection? Searching your luggage? Examining the content on personal electronic devices?

I most wholeheartedly concur. What I've lost in the value of my home currency against the baht I've recouped through my investments. There is a relatively new exchange traded fund that specializes in Southeast Asian equities:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=ASEA

This is a good way to invest in strong economies, ex-China, Japan and South Korea. And the fund yields over two percent, which in today's low-rate environment doesn't suck.

Bunky2%! Yikes! Poor guy. I feel sorry for you. Just looked at my 2012 return on investments. I got over 10% from my mostly good o'l USA megacap stocks!

Tiger 888
01-21-13, 00:55
Did you mean more expensive in India?Kamagra seems not to be in the local market in India. I asked on the Indian board if someone could check that out long ago and have to get an answer yet. I called several pharmacies and they all either hung up or said they won't deal with Ajanta. The prices in Thailand if you get to the source are very reasonable. I ended up paying 30 Baht for the Jelly and 70 for the Fizz tablets. The guy from India quoted 1 USD for the Fizz tablets, but you have the freight on top plus the risk of running into trouble with customs as they require some quantities.

In addition to that I found out that it does much less for me than I expected.

FruitNinja
01-21-13, 02:22
I have read anecdotal reports of American punters getting "the business" upon their return to the United States after traveling to Thailand. I would be interested in additional details from Mr. Maximus.THis is another case of US power being projected without a clear definition. I was seeing a Chines woman half my age for a little over 2 years. Once on return from Europe the guys say "what is the nature of your relationship" which I strongly replied that I carry a US passport and it was non of his business. I suppose he could have made a stink about it but decided he didn't want a scene. There was no reason for him to ask that other than his balls are getting big with authority.

Paul Kausch
01-21-13, 03:07
Kamagra seems not to be in the local market in India. I asked on the Indian board if someone could check that out long ago and have to get an answer yet. I called several pharmacies and they all either hung up or said they won't deal with Ajanta. The prices in Thailand if you get to the source are very reasonable. I ended up paying 30 Baht for the Jelly and 70 for the Fizz tablets. The guy from India quoted 1 USD for the Fizz tablets, but you have the freight on top plus the risk of running into trouble with customs as they require some quantities.

In addition to that I found out that it does much less for me than I expected.I've used several different generic Sildenafil (Viagra) and Tadalafil (Cialis) as well as Viagra and Cialis. My experience is they all work, but both Viagra and Cialis work better than the generics. Due to my age and arterial blockage I have mild ED. I young, healthy guy using it so he can be a rock hard, marathon stud may find no differences between the brand name and generic.

Another thing to consider is that both work by inhibiting an enzyme that effects blood flow, but they work via different mechanisms. Sildenafil inhibits cPMG, while Tadalafil inhibits PDE5. One may work better for some men, the other for other men. Both work for me but personally I like Tadalafil because by taking it once a day I'm good until my next dose the next day. I'm ready for action morning, afternoon and night. It also helps my slightly enlarged prostate (sex is also great for my prostate).

Luvpuss
01-21-13, 04:24
THis is another case of US power being projected without a clear definition. I was seeing a Chines woman half my age for a little over 2 years. Once on return from Europe the guys say "what is the nature of your relationship" which I strongly replied that I carry a US passport and it was non of his business. I suppose he could have made a stink about it but decided he didn't want a scene. There was no reason for him to ask that other than his balls are getting big with authority.You got lucky and my suggestion to others is to answer their questions.

They have a legal right to ask those question. If you do not answer to their satisfaction they can pull you to the side for further questioning.

Also, they have the legal right to tape record your conversation w / o your knowledge or permission. So I would not be a smart ass or say something stupid in these circumstances.

Lord Farquard
01-21-13, 04:59
You got lucky and my suggestion to others is to answer their questions.

They have a legal right to ask those question. If you do not answer to their satisfaction they can pull you to the side for further questioning.They also do not have to let you back into the country if they choose.

Tony Hoeprano
01-21-13, 05:12
I just finished my 3rd bareback session of the day. If you hurry you can find her. A spinner at Nana car lot who is 4 months pregnant.What's the hurry? LOL

and how do I find her? Saying she's a spinner and 4 months preggo doesn't really narrow it down. I'm envisioning the Dark Knight scene where the Joker crashes the party and is asking the guests, "Where's Harvey Dent?!"

Dreams
01-21-13, 06:06
If you compare sex tourist destinations,

Japan is way down the list. .Tokyo has close to 3 millions views. Not so down the list. Just fact.

Dreams
01-21-13, 06:11
Get blowjobs?Thought of it, thanks. But how many a day can one manage? And in that case, how much stamina left for real FS?

Mr Enternational
01-21-13, 06:28
They also do not have to let you back into the country if they choose.Where in the H-E-Double hockey sticks did you hear that from? If you are a citizen of course they have to let you into the country. You may face fines and penalties and could even be detained or quarantined, but they do have to let you in. They can't just decide to make a citizen a bastard. Where do you suppose they will exile a citizen to if they decide not to let them enter their own country? The island of Elba?

Syzygies
01-21-13, 07:23
I understand perfectly why other would like all this though, but I need advice on what to do between Fucks.How can we advise someone when we don't know your interests. Do what you normally do. Eat, sleep, post. I can work too when time between fucking permits LOL. Catch a live Band, learn something new.

Perhaps you should take a really hot girl with you to some other more interesting place, if you don't mind repeating her a few times. I have certainly done that. Try a tropical coral island like Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi, Lipe (sounds like lee-pay) , etc. I like Mae Hong Son province too.

There is no way that Bangkok will ever be as boring as my original home city, where I would mostly stay at home.

Stykler
01-21-13, 07:27
They also do not have to let you back into the country if they choose.I'm sorry but that can't be right, can it?

BionicMan
01-21-13, 07:32
THis is another case of US power being projected without a clear definition. I was seeing a Chines woman half my age for a little over 2 years. Once on return from Europe the guys say "what is the nature of your relationship" which I strongly replied that I carry a US passport and it was non of his business. I suppose he could have made a stink about it but decided he didn't want a scene. There was no reason for him to ask that other than his balls are getting big with authority.Why carrying a US passport should exempt you from questioning by the immigration agent? You might conduct a criminal business and they (any immigration) have the right to question about your traveling. In or out of a country, including your own country. As somebody wrote you have been lucky the agent didn't accuse you for harassing him.

BionicMan
01-21-13, 07:33
I'm sorry but that can't be right, can it?It probably refers to the refusal to enter again a specific country in the future. Not your own country of course.

Crazy4Thai
01-21-13, 08:33
It probably refers to the refusal to enter again a specific country in the future. Not your own country of course.HMMM. Let's take a closer look at this. US Immigration officer is going to bar the guy from some OTHER country because the guy stood up to him. Is that what you mean? If so, next time you are in the shop for some hi-tech parts ask for a new logic board.

FruitNinja
01-21-13, 09:13
You got lucky and my suggestion to others is to answer their questions.

They have a legal right to ask those question. If you do not answer to their satisfaction they can pull you to the side for further questioning.

Also, they have the legal right to tape record your conversation w / o your knowledge or permission. So I would not be a smart ass or say something stupid in these circumstances.But I am an American Citizen and I know my rights. My relationship with my girlfriend at the time was imaterial to anything he might be looking for and he has no right to pry into my personal life just because he's bored. Pull me aside for what? I WILL NOT be frightened or cower to a government I helped elect. The last time an innocent citizen got harassed at a major airport it was all over the news because he made sure it was news. They do not like trouble or want to be the customs officer responsible for negative publicity.

Intransit
01-21-13, 09:29
Just a quickie from over the weekend. Although I am an Angelwitch loyalist. I find the combination of heavy metal and writing semi-naked women somewhat irresistible, I think I have a new favorite at Nana Plaza: Billboard. From the moment I walked in, it was just better. On stage to my left were two fully nude pairs of women making out, while to my right, was a hot tub with two nude women in it, dancing and sudsing themselves up."Stunner" might be too extreme of a word, but the women on stage were hot, many tall and good looking with well-proportioned tits. The tub crew also had really good tits, although were not as model-quality as the girls in the shows. Had I known about this place prior to my trip, I might have booked a room in the JW Marriott and allocated budget for two of the stage stunners.

There was more of a contrast because I went up to Billboard after being at Angelwitch for a couple of hours, and the girls there seemed to be mailing it in. Billboard's girls smiled, danced, and just sexier and better looking. The music is much more pop, but I think I stopped noticing that after about three minutes. That'll be my first stop in Nana from now on, and there may not be a second stop.

Crocodilexp
01-21-13, 10:03
But I am an American Citizen and I know my rights.Don't be so certain. Before you cross the border (get stamped in by immigration) , domestic legal protections (searches and seizures etc.) may not apply. Obama administration has deliberately killed USA citizens abroad without trial.

Frankly, although I haven't done anything wrong, USA border is the one I always dread crossing the most. Never a problem with totalitarian holes like Vietnam, China or Russia. But entering the USA I had quite a few unpleasant encounters (none serious, fortunately).

Bilbo456
01-21-13, 10:33
Just a short summary of trip to Bangkok.

Taxi Fare from local airport to central was around 250 Bhat including the express way fees / tolls.

Stayed at Radisson Suites (Sukumvhit. Soi 13). Hotels around here best place for action. Close to Nana as well. Very girl friendly, they take the I'd card on arrival and give them it back on departure. Makes is safe for everyone.

Day 1.

Went to Bangkok Beats (round the corner from the hotel) too many blokes there compared to women, so don't bother as prices are high and the women get picky. The drinks prices are reasonable and there is a live band but far too many blokes outnumbering women say 2-1 at least.

On the way out literally bumped into a woman coming in (11pm is this was). I smiled and we got chatting. We agreed on 2500 bht for the whole night. Absolutely stunning. She never made it into the club luckily for me. Walked to 7-11 got some condoms and straight back to the Suites. She left around 10. 00am after room breakfast. Awesome session. Kissing, bbj and sex all in numerous positions helped by the 20mg of Cialis I had in my body.

Day 2.

Second day I had a session with Mistress Ice and another at the House of Domination. (http://www.thaimistress.net) This was expensive but not compared to London. 3 hours cost me around 8000 bht. Good session if you are into that kind of thing and much cheaper than Europe, though communication was a little hit and miss. The place was very out of the way, but I felt very safe. Safe word was used which they took note off. Some excellent Japanese rope bondage. Great whipping and ball busting. Many other things on offer depending on what you are used to. I wanted some chastity. I don't think they understood. Teased and tourtured me for the 3 hours before I erupted in the most intense orgasm I have had for a while.

In the afternoon I caught hold of a nice looking masssage girl. Had a nice oil massage, BJ and sex all for 1000bht! I actually went there with just the intention of an oil massage, so as I was not desperate the price came down quite considerably. Or maybe I was just good looking and she fancied me.

Evening went for a walk around Nana. Too noisy for me so I went back home. Was dead after 2 sessions so early night for me. The domination session was particularly intense.

Day 3.

Had a wonder around Patpong it was quite early. Got taken into a parlour. It was obviously off peak as he offered 1200 bht for 90 minutes. I wasn't in the mood at that time so declined (hence the price kept going down).

Later in the afternoon. Went to a massage place near Soi 24/1 (next to 24) 2 mins from Phrom Phong BTS. It was about 2500 bht for a nuru massage. Nice young things in there. Worked hard to make me come. Very pretty girls to be had. Cialis was just about still in the blood stream. 90 mins session but I think it went over.

A bit of a late lunch then went hunting again.

Picked a another nice massage girl and got her to come to the room. Paid for it in the shop up front. Small risk she would not turn up, but hey. 1000 Bht for the 2 hour massage and another 1000 for her for the full session. Total damage 2000bht. She sucked me off for a long time and then fucked her. Prefer a massage in my room it is cleaner and I feel more relaxed.

Evening went to a night club in Soi 14. Or somewhere there. It was awseome. Can't remember the name though. Sorry. Lots of women outnumbered men. Lots of dancers and freelancers. Picked up a hottie around 12pm took here back to room. Paid about 5000bht for the night. But she was smoking. She wouldn't budge on price. Given I was paying quite a lot for the hotel, I wasn't in the mood for an empty bed for the sake of 2000 bht. She loved to swallow and I gave her as much as I could. But I had been emptied for nearly 3 days in a row.

Some tips.

Get a hotel near Sukhumvit / Nana / Asoke. Ring the hotel to ensure it is guest friendly.

Haggle hard and not with your penis!

If you like someone in the clubs be blunt, worst case you get refused. So what!

When your not despeate the price comes down, the more desperate you look the more likeihood the price won't go down.

Try and establish some sort of rapport with the girl, even a smile to start with. That way service is likely to be better. In a massage line up, Do not pick the ones that are looking down or seem disinterested in you, pick the one with a smile.

In a club make sure the girl you have picked likes you, have a few drinks, have a short chat. But don't leave it too long in case she gets a better offer. 15-30mins is enough time to talk, establish a good rapport and get back to the hotel.

AussieDoug
01-21-13, 10:54
Don't be so certain. Before you cross the border (get stamped in by immigration) , domestic legal protections (searches and seizures etc.) may not apply. Obama administration has deliberately killed USA citizens abroad without trial.

Frankly, although I haven't done anything wrong, USA border is the one I always dread crossing the most. Never a problem with totalitarian holes like Vietnam, China or Russia. But entering the USA I had quite a few unpleasant encounters (none serious, fortunately).I got pulled over once on my way back into Australia, maybe over 150 trips (then. 200 now) to Thailand set the alarm off. A big, and I mean huge, female asked me why I go to Thailand so much, I replied honestly that I preferred women who were size 8-10 at the most. Over comes her small dick mate, went through me and I just stood there and let them go, I knew they would find nothing. Never been pulled over since, the lazy bastards don't want to work. If you get the treatment, don't view it as a hassle, view it as a chance to see your tax dollars being wasted, just smile at them and let them go. Never give a small shithead a chance to be a big guy, he will love it, it makes his day, and ruins yours. All countries are the same, the public service clerks can do no wrong, you are a citizen of a country run by dickheads, all of us are, just go with the flow.

OsakaGin11
01-21-13, 11:39
Just a short summary of trip to Bangkok.

Taxi Fare from local airport to central was around 250 Bhat including the express way fees / tolls.

Stayed at Radisson Suites (Sukumvhit. Soi 13). Hotels around here best place for action. Close to Nana as well. Very girl friendly, they take the I'd card on arrival and give them it back on departure. Makes is safe for everyone.

Day 1.

Went to Bangkok Beats (round the corner from the hotel) too many blokes there compared to women, so don't bother as prices are high and the women get picky. The drinks prices are reasonable and there is a live band but far too many blokes outnumbering women say 2-1 at least.

On the way out literally bumped into a woman coming in (11pm is this was). I smiled and we got chatting. We agreed on 2500 bht for the whole night. Absolutely stunning. She never made it into the club luckily for me. Walked to 7-11 got some condoms and straight back to the Suites. She left around 10. 00am after room breakfast. Awesome session. Kissing, bbj and sex all in numerous positions helped by the 20mg of Cialis I had in my body.

Day 2.

Second day I had a session with Mistress Ice and another at the House of Domination.

http://www.thaimistress.net

This was expensive but not compared to London. 3 hours cost me around 8000 bht. Good session if you are into that kind of thing and much cheaper than Europe, though communication was a little hit and miss. The place was very out of the way, but I felt very safe. Safe word was used which they took note off. Some excellent Japanese rope bondage. Great whipping and ball busting. Many other things on offer depending on what you are used to. I wanted some chastity. I don't think they understood. Teased and tourtured me for the 3 hours before I erupted in the most intense orgasm I have had for a while.

In the afternoon I caught hold of a nice looking masssage girl. Had a nice oil massage, BJ and sex all for 1000bht! I actually went there with just the intention of an oil massage, so as I was not desperate the price came down quite considerably. Or maybe I was just good looking and she fancied me.

Evening went for a walk around Nana. Too noisy for me so I went back home. Was dead after 2 sessions so early night for me. The domination session was particularly intense.

Day 3.

Had a wonder around Patpong it was quite early. Got taken into a parlour. It was obviously off peak as he offered 1200 bht for 90 minutes. I wasn't in the mood at that time so declined (hence the price kept going down).

Later in the afternoon. Went to a massage place near Soi 24/1 (next to 24) 2 mins from Phrom Phong BTS. It was about 2500 bht for a nuru massage. Nice young things in there. Worked hard to make me come. Very pretty girls to be had. Cialis was just about still in the blood stream. 90 mins session but I think it went over.

A bit of a late lunch then went hunting again.

Picked a another nice massage girl and got her to come to the room. Paid for it in the shop up front. Small risk she would not turn up, but hey. 1000 Bht for the 2 hour massage and another 1000 for her for the full session. Total damage 2000bht. She sucked me off for a long time and then fucked her. Prefer a massage in my room it is cleaner and I feel more relaxed.

Evening went to a night club in Soi 14. Or somewhere there. It was awseome. Can't remember the name though. Sorry. Lots of women outnumbered men. Lots of dancers and freelancers. Picked up a hottie around 12pm took here back to room. Paid about 5000bht for the night. But she was smoking. She wouldn't budge on price. Given I was paying quite a lot for the hotel, I wasn't in the mood for an empty bed for the sake of 2000 bht. She loved to swallow and I gave her as much as I could. But I had been emptied for nearly 3 days in a row.

Some tips.

Get a hotel near Sukhumvit / Nana / Asoke. Ring the hotel to ensure it is guest friendly.

Haggle hard and not with your penis!

If you like someone in the clubs be blunt, worst case you get refused. So what!

When your not despeate the price comes down, the more desperate you look the more likeihood the price won't go down.

Try and establish some sort of rapport with the girl, even a smile to start with. That way service is likely to be better. In a massage line up, Do not pick the ones that are looking down or seem disinterested in you, pick the one with a smile.

In a club make sure the girl you have picked likes you, have a few drinks, have a short chat. But don't leave it too long in case she gets a better offer. 15-30mins is enough time to talk, establish a good rapport and get back to the hotel.Hi Bilbo. A very nice report! You wouldn't by chance remember what massage parlour and the name of the gal you had on

Soi 24, would you?

Mai Yao
01-21-13, 11:44
You got lucky and my suggestion to others is to answer their questions.

They have a legal right to ask those question. If you do not answer to their satisfaction they can pull you to the side for further questioning.

Also, they have the legal right to tape record your conversation w / o your knowledge or permission. So I would not be a smart ass or say something stupid in these circumstances.A lot of US Citizens who travel to Thailand, The Philippines, Cambodia and many other countries do not realize that US Customs and Border Protection Service is now specifically required to question anybody suspected of "Sex Tourism" and if they find any evidence of sex tourism, to pass the information on to appropriate authorities.

Last July, I went thru customs at LAX, travelling from Bangkok. I was carrying commercial merchandise and I was delayed in customs by a glitch in my paperwork. While I was waiting, they started questioning me pointedly about my stay in Thailand and visits to the Philippines. They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded? I was questioned for a long time and a US Marshell was called in. He also questioned me and took down all my passport details. After about 90 minutes of this BS, a supervisor determined that there was nothing specific to justify further questioning and I was allowed to pass out of customs. BTW, just to add insult to injury; all the Customs officers spoke Spanish among themselves when discussing my case.

It is really important to make sure every electronic device you carry into the USA is clean of anything even remotely suggesting sexual activity as indeed, it has been made their business.

Luvpuss
01-21-13, 12:15
I hit this place this afternoon.

Bunch of bored girls out front. I admit most were not attractive. I did pick the most decent one. She has a decent body compared to the other girls and a cute friendly smile about age 27.

We go into the bar and I order a Coke. She sits next me and we kiss. I stick my hand down her skirt and stick my finger in her AH. She then starts unzipping my pants and tells me she is going to suck my Dick.

Now this is in the bar, with other girls walking around and potential customers coming in. I know it is a common thing here. But before she starts I tell her I am going to want to Fuck her and she giggles and says we need to go to backroom.

The backroom is really the restroom area with a sink and urinal and wash area for the girls. The floor is sticky with cum and the area is unkempt.

There is a small bench in the corner. I undress, sit down, and she gets on her knees for lots of kissing and me sticking my finger in her pussy. She then sucks my cock with passion. I stand her up, turn her around, and she sits on my cock and bounces up and down fucking me really good. She then gets on her knees on the bench and I fuck her doggie for a good ten minutes while putting my thumb in her AH. The final cum shot was on her ass as she reached back and rubbed my balls.

Wow, this was a great time and she is a great fuck. The bar fee is 1000 B for this service, which I think is a decent deal.

If any of you want to know her, PM me and I will give you her name.

NicFrenchy
01-21-13, 12:21
They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded?These Morons. When one goes to a party, do we need to ask Everyone's I'd? My god which planet do they come from?


BTW, just to add insult to injury; all the Customs officers spoke Spanish among themselves when discussing my case.You should have asked "I beg your pardon Senor, I may have landed at the wrong airport, am I in the USA or Mexico?" ahahahaha would love to see the faces of these Nachos if someone said that.


It is really important to make sure every electronic device you carry into the USA is clean of anything even remotely suggesting sexual activity as indeed, it has been made their business.Land of the Free, home of the Royally Fucked up the ass and demanding some more.

NicFrenchy
01-21-13, 12:26
Wow, this was a great time and she is a great fuck. The bar fee is 1000 B for this service, which I think is a decent deal.

If any of you want to know her, PM me and I will give you her name.You Finally broke your SOL Cherry! Next is take 2 girls and do them both on the couch, in the bar! While other girls and customers watch.

Dr BJ
01-21-13, 12:28
Just a short summary of trip to Bangkok.Thank you. That was a report I really enjoyed reading.

Regards,

BJ

Tiger 888
01-21-13, 12:53
Land of the Free, home of the Royally Fucked up the ass and demanding some more.Greater Disneyland is all I can call that.

Dreams
01-21-13, 15:23
How can we advise someone when we don't know your interests. Do what you normally do. Eat, sleep, post. I can work too when time between fucking permits LOL. Catch a live Band, learn something new.

Perhaps you should take a really hot girl with you to some other more interesting place, if you don't mind repeating her a few times. I have certainly done that. Try a tropical coral island like Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi, Lipe (sounds like lee-pay) , etc. I like Mae Hong Son province too.

There is no way that Bangkok will ever be as boring as my original home city, where I would mostly stay at home.And you are quite right, you don't now my interests, or rather what I am NOT interested in. And as it happens, what I am not interested in is essentially everything you propose.

So at the end, it is, yeah. Eat, sleep, post. But that's OK for one day only.

I don't know what is your original home city, (if it is somewhere in the midlle of Souuthern US, I can understand.) but that statement does not apply to me at all, my home city is very exciting. And I am never bored there. However, getting sex there, although very possible, is less easy and slightly more expensive than BKK, and more importantly, I am being watched there, while I am a free man in BKK.

Anyway, I will spend 24h in BKK soon, have a nice plan to fill those hours, and a few holes, , and then on to another exciting, non boring place, with lot of weird sex, I have named Tokyo.

Cheers, and again thanks for responding, I enjoy reading your posts anyway.

FruitNinja
01-21-13, 15:37
It is really important to make sure every electronic device you carry into the USA is clean of anything even remotely suggesting sexual activity as indeed, it has been made their business.That has to be the worst luck. I know soo many guys that monger in Asia, some go many times a year and I've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. So even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? I've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. I have some of me with women. And although getting laid overseas is not for everyone I don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. ANd the law is still innocent till proven guilty. Even if one was to have naughty pics. It's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. I'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. That's my take on it.

And what could possibly be wrong with your papers. Are you a citizen? I wouldn't have said a word other than I have done nothing wrong and I want to call my lawyer.

Tiger 888
01-21-13, 15:47
That has to be the worst luck. I know soo many guys that monger in Asia, some go many times a year and I've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. So even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? I've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. I have some of me with women. And although getting laid overseas is not for everyone I don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. ANd the law is still innocent till proven guilty. Even if one was to have naughty pics. It's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. I'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. That's my take on it.

And what could possibly be wrong with your papers. Are you a citizen? I wouldn't have said a word other than I have done nothing wrong and I want to call my lawyer.You'd probably want to take your home country rants elsewhere. It does not really belong to the Bangkok thread, does it? I'd be much more interested how successful your DIA profile is.

Sky Ryder
01-21-13, 16:04
Just a short summary of trip to Bangkok.

Haggle hard and not with your penis!

If you like someone in the clubs be blunt, worst case you get refused. So what!

When your not despeate the price comes down, the more desperate you look the more likeihood the price won't go down.

Try and establish some sort of rapport with the girl, even a smile to start with. That way service is likely to be better. In a massage line up, Do not pick the ones that are looking down or seem disinterested in you, pick the one with a smile.

In a club make sure the girl you have picked likes you, have a few drinks, have a short chat. But don't leave it too long in case she gets a better offer. 15-30mins is enough time to talk, establish a good rapport and get back to the hotel.Nicely done. A good read!

Western787
01-21-13, 16:18
that has to be the worst luck. i know soo many guys that monger in asia, some go many times a year and i've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. so even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? i've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. i have some of me with women. and although getting laid overseas is not for everyone i don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. and the law is still innocent till proven guilty. even if one was to have naughty pics. it's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. i'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. that's my take on it.the latest hysteria is labeling almost anything as "trafficking" regardless of age and obvious consent by the providers. for example malaysia is now raiding massage parlors and claiming "fish bowls" simply by being present are proof of trafficking in and of themselves, thereby patrons could well be charged with aiding and abetting trafficking by using the facilities. therefore even a picture of a fish bowl in the picture on an electronic device going into the usa or elsewhere could put one at extreme risk, as le needs to justify the now billions being spent (on training courses, new equipment and so forth) fighting this (mostly 99% ginned up hype)"scourge". like many past hysterias (example: the claim in the usa that 1 in 4 college women were raped, or that 100, 000 children disappeared in the usa each year versus the real number 30 to 40) , it will take 10 to 20 years to run its course.

Western787
01-21-13, 16:29
that has to be the worst luck. i know soo many guys that monger in asia, some go many times a year and i've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. so even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? i've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. i have some of me with women. and although getting laid overseas is not for everyone i don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. and the law is still innocent till proven guilty. even if one was to have naughty pics. it's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. i'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. that's my take on it.the latest hysteria is labeling almost anything as "trafficking" regardless of age and obvious consent by the providers. for example malaysia is now raiding massage parlors and claiming "fish bowls" simply by being present are proof of trafficking in and of themselves, thereby patrons could well be charged with aiding and abetting trafficking by using the facilities. therefore even a picture of a fish bowl in the picture on an electronic device going into the usa or elsewhere could put one at extreme risk, as le needs to justify the now billions being spent (on training courses, new equipment and so forth) fighting this (mostly 99% ginned up hype)"scourge". like many past hysterias (example: the claim in the usa that 1 in 4 college women were raped, or that 100, 000 children disappeared in the usa each year versus the real number 30 to 40) , it will take 10 to 20 years to run its course.

Sammon
01-21-13, 16:43
A lot of US Citizens who travel to Thailand, The Philippines, Cambodia and many other countries do not realize that US Customs and Border Protection Service is now specifically required to question anybody suspected of "Sex Tourism" and if they find any evidence of sex tourism, to pass the information on to appropriate authorities.

Last July, I went thru customs at LAX, travelling from Bangkok. I was carrying commercial merchandise and I was delayed in customs by a glitch in my paperwork. While I was waiting, they started questioning me pointedly about my stay in Thailand and visits to the Philippines. They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded? I was questioned for a long time and a US Marshell was called in. He also questioned me and took down all my passport details. After about 90 minutes of this BS, a supervisor determined that there was nothing specific to justify further questioning and I was allowed to pass out of customs. BTW, just to add insult to injury; all the Customs officers spoke Spanish among themselves when discussing my case.

It is really important to make sure every electronic device you carry into the USA is clean of anything even remotely suggesting sexual activity as indeed, it has been made their business.I am sure this advice was given before.

Upload all the pictures whether it is naughty or nice to your email. You can recover it and store in your computer from your e mails. So in case anybody checks or questions there is nothing on your mobile device or camera.

Usually they check everything and ask all sorts of questions if they find other irregularities rather than just pull you out for questioning just because your passport shows stamps from Thailand and Philippines.

Syzygies
01-21-13, 16:50
Anyway, I will spend 24h in BKK soon, have a nice plan to fill those hours, and a few holes, and then on to another exciting, non boring place, with lot of weird sex, I have named Tokyo.Well sorry about being a guy with such plain likes and nothing in the weird category. The weirdest I ever get, is taking more than one girl concurrently for extended sex sessions. That can be a lot of fun with the right girls. Probably doesn't even start to qualify as weird.

Bangkok is not a place to stay for any length of time for many.

Western787
01-21-13, 17:00
You'd probably want to take your home country rants elsewhere. It does not really belong to the Bangkok thread, does it? I'd be much more interested how successful your DIA profile is.Bangkok is one of the word's largest mongering destinations, and Mai Yao post is a valuable early warning of a growing and expanding soon to get worse emerging issue directly flowing from the latest "scourge" so called human "trafficking", domestic or elsewhere. Law enforcement and homeland security now has to justify all that training and seminar time focused on this area, so they will attempt to build a case no matter how flimsy the evidence.

Its now reached hysteria levels in the USA, and government agencies and "NGO's" and others testifying before Congress have been repeatedly allowed to make up phony self serving (research grant fund perpetuating) statistics out of thin air without any factual basis, and if you don't believe this, research the phony stats used for the World Cup Games held in South Africa a few years back, as well as in Superbowls in the USA in recent years, such events in each case purportedly were to be descended upon from the outside by vast hordes of "trafficked" providers, which in each case has never happened, in fact with not even tiny numbers of such providers showing up.

Run Mann
01-21-13, 17:23
And what could possibly be wrong with your papers. Are you a citizen? I wouldn't have said a word other than I have done nothing wrong and I want to call my lawyer.You have your own lawyer? Most people don't, yes you can fall on your sword over this but after a long 10 to 20 hour or more flight why would you? You're tired and want to get on with your business. If you've done nothing wrong, be polite, play the game and move on. Anyone following your advice better be prepared to sit in an office for prolong periods of time being hassled when they could have been on their way.

Western787
01-21-13, 18:00
Last July, I went thru customs at LAX, travelling from Bangkok. I was carrying commercial merchandise and I was delayed in customs by a glitch in my paperwork. While I was waiting, they started questioning me pointedly about my stay in Thailand and visits to the Philippines. They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded?Forgetting the obvious jurisdictional issues, its hard to even fathom what the alleged crime would be for merely being present if lets say a 17 year old female was in a bikini at a pool party and you were at that party.

Witch hunts of course don't need to be rational.

The ball busting feminists in the USA including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are pushing very hard to gin up the alleged "trafficking" hysteria in the USA and elsewhere, and herself and other busy body groups are already making this issue in Burma's upcoming development, even if it sweeps in consensual activities and slows down commercial development.

While ACTUAL human "trafficking" is a real issue and a real scourge (and obviously occurring in some parts of Burma, Cambodia and elsewhere) that should be dealt with very harshly, the debate will never be fair or honest. Lets say someone goes to ABC or Wild Orchid in AC and has photos, the authorities in lets say the USA could well eventually claim by some use of some nonsensical international agreement or understanding, that those locales are established "trafficked" zones and one's mere attendance at any such pool party where partially clad (bikini) nudity is displayed, means the person has aided and abetted trafficking. They will do this (just as they have with other stats) by a quite convoluted logic that is as follows: "no woman would hang at ABC nor attend such parties unless she was really a working girl, and no female really consents to sexual activities for money as it is debasing, so therefore she must be either trafficked or self trafficked". All this is nonsense of course, but its standard feminist dogma which has now infiltriated into official State Department policies at various levels.

Western787
01-21-13, 18:10
You have your own lawyer? Most people don't, yes you can fall on your sword over this but after a long 10 to 20 hour or more flight why would you? You're tired and want to get on with your business. If you've done nothing wrong, be polite, play the game and move on. Anyone following your advice better be prepared to sit in an office for prolong periods of time being hassled when they could have been on their way.Good advice, play the game. Also, understand that this is all about funding. One official present will probably be a specialist on this issue, (extra training and so forth) and they want to justify their budgets each year, so if they can tie someone up for a few hours here and there on flimsy charges, they got what they need to keep the program going. We're in the early hysteria phase of this issue, so some officials might actually believe all the nonsense (and phony stats) they've been told, so they could actually try to make an example out of someone who resists.

Duniawala
01-21-13, 18:17
A lot of US Citizens who travel to Thailand, The Philippines, Cambodia and many other countries do not realize that US Customs and Border Protection Service is now specifically required to question anybody suspected of "Sex Tourism" and if they find any evidence of sex tourism, to pass the information on to appropriate authorities.You guys are getting hysterical about a genuine concern. Their main concern is with child porn and child sex tourists. It is a major scourge, especially in SEA. And a lot of US Citizens have been arrested in this regard. If I were the customs / immigration agent I would ask too, when seeing the number of visits. Yes, there are a*h*s immigration agents, and I have been asked inappropriate questions, when coming from Canada. But once in a while they are not the enemy.

Syzygies
01-21-13, 18:46
i consider a paedophile to be someone who is attracted to children not yet fully developed, and needs them in preference to adults, and may try to get them sexually by trickery. this is probably no where near the legal definition.

consider this problem. there are **** girls working in bars and mps in bangkok. often staff will warn me if girls are very young, although i have never been interested in the excessively young ones. however looks can be deceptive. very tall girls may not look very child-like but can be young. girls supporting babies can be quite young. one girl with a 2 year old baby turned out to be just 19 years. who would have guessed without checking? of course she has done a lot of fucking as a bargirl by her own choice since she was 18 or maybe even earlier, i don't know. she has to get money and she chooses to work as a bg so is hardly being exploited. indeed she would be very upset if she was being prevented from working. sometimes she is enjoying a nice screw too.

i am aware that for many mongers, especially asian ones, the word "beauty" equates to "youth" and "white skin" (and maybe no baby) in their eyes, although i don't understand why.

i don't think 19 is a strictly forbidden ****, but i am aware of at least one hotel (solo) that claimed they could not allow a room guest under the age of 20. strangely they would allow the same girl to check in, so to be officially not be a temporary room guest.

i have heard that some mps do not officially allow girls **** of 20 to work. of course the reality may be that some are designated as being 20 when in fact they are not.

Bunky
01-21-13, 18:50
2%! Yikes! Poor guy. I feel sorry for you. Just looked at my 2012 return on investments. I got over 10% from my mostly good ole USA megacap stocks!Mr. Kausch confuses yield with return. The ASEA exchange traded fund pays a DIVIDEND that is currently equal to a little more than two percent of it's share price. Investment pros calls this the YIELD. That's not to be confused with the RETURN, which is the change in the share price over time. On the last trading day of 2011 ASEA closed at $14.37. On the last trading day of 2012 it closed at $17.04. That's a return of 18.6 percent last year. By way of comparison stocks in the United States (as measured by the Wilshire 5000 index) were up about 15 percent. Against that backdrop, Mr. Kausch is trailing the market, and by a lot. Given his lack of investing know-how, that's not surprising.

Bunky

Wolvenvacht
01-21-13, 19:33
(...) she must be either trafficked or self trafficked (...) "self trafficked"? What will they invent next? Pimping yourself? Stealing your own property?

Wolvenvacht
01-21-13, 19:47
(...) They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded? I was questioned for a long time and a US Marshell was called in. He also questioned me and took down all my passport details. After about 90 minutes of this BS, a supervisor determined that there was nothing specific to justify further questioning and I was allowed to pass out of customs. (...)My old professor of criminal law, who was also a Military Advocate General, always told us to answer EVERY question by the police with our name, date of birth and address. Everything else they have to find out themselves.

AfAsia
01-21-13, 20:25
Last July, I went thru customs at LAX, travelling from Bangkok. I was carrying commercial merchandise and I was delayed in customs by a glitch in my paperwork. While I was waiting, they started questioning me pointedly about my stay in Thailand and visits to the Philippines.Ah! So the glitch in the paperwork was the real issue. Be honest, was this your fault? It is only natural for customs to start asking questions if your paperwork is not in order. We should always insure our immigration forms are filled in correctly, how many times have I stood in line only for several clowns who seemingly have the inability to fill in the necessary or nothing at all. Yes, they arrive at customs without even having filled in the the forms. Iceholes!

Crocodilexp
01-21-13, 20:56
I am sure this advice was given before.

Upload all the pictures whether it is naughty or nice to your email. You can recover it and store in your computer from your e mails. So in case anybody checks or questions there is nothing on your mobile device or camera.While it might save you the customs hassles now, this could backfire spectacularly. There is limited expectation of privacy for e-mail sitting on a server, so governments could eavesdrop on those to their heart's content without a warrant. And it can increasingly be done in automated ways, no need for a human in the loop except to review the flagged items. What you're basically doing is moving files from a place where they might be inspected, to a place where they will be inspected in an automated way, and where they remain forever outside your control. Moreover, those files are still on your SD cards/hard drive unless you did a secure overwrite (not just move/delete).

The fact that you're not doing anything illegal now, doesn't mean it won't become illegal later, and that you won't be retroactively prosecuted for it (or just harassed, if it remains legal).

Western787
01-21-13, 21:31
"self trafficked"? what will they invent next? pimping yourself? stealing your own property?yes, its a term now starting to be used by the "rescue industry" to convert all providers into victims, therefore turning all clients into potential aiders and and abettors of trafficking, and thus major felons. its also being used in regard to **** 18 providers, as it is here:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8636125.

to me any client involving himself with under 18 providers is looking for trouble and should be ready to go to jail anyways.

the big problem with the term "self trafficked" is when they claim for example in regard to 18 year old and over providers, that while they may nominally appear to consent, since (in their view) everyone knows no rational woman would ever sell herself for money, then it has to be forced from the outside on them somehow, meaning she is still a victim, and her client by definition a trafficking perpetrator of some type. its a very condescending outlook seeing women as helpless dupes, but this is how the "rescue industry" is framing the debate.

this is the fig leaf they're using to try to shut down the entire sex industry, eventually including many strip clubs in the usa, as well as whatever else they can shut down in other countries. meanwhile rich guys having mistresses or similar arrangements will still be perfectly legal, as no laws will ever apply to them.

Western787
01-21-13, 21:48
"self trafficked"? what will they invent next? pimping yourself? stealing your own property?yes, its a term now starting to be used by the "rescue industry" to convert all providers into victims, therefore turning all clients into potential aiders and and abettors of trafficking, and thus major felons. its also being used in regard to **** 18 providers, as it is here:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8636125.

to me any client involving himself with under 18 providers is looking for trouble and should be ready to go to jail anyways.

the big problem with the term "self trafficked" is when they claim for example in regard to 18 year old and over providers, that while they may nominally appear to consent, since (in their view) everyone knows no rational woman would ever sell herself for money, then it has to be forced from the outside on them somehow, meaning she is still a victim, and her client by definition a trafficking perpetrator of some type. its a very condescending outlook seeing women as helpless dupes, but this is how the "rescue industry" is framing the debate.

this is the fig leaf they're using to try to shut down the entire sex industry, eventually including many strip clubs in the usa, as well as whatever else they can shut down in other countries. meanwhile rich guys having mistresses or similar arrangements will still be perfectly legal, as no laws will ever apply to them.

Wolvenvacht
01-21-13, 22:38
(...) And it can increasingly be done in automated ways, no need for a human in the loop except to review the flagged items (...)I know of a company that has automated inspection of file attachments of e-mails of their employees and that once deleted some attachments because they contained "pornography". It turned out to be some technical reports with photos of cargo that happened to be "flesh colored".

I am so happy I love Isaan girls: thanks to their tanned skins their photos will escape this silly search mechanisms for pale skins. :)

Don't email your photos: place them on a server, by preference outside of your home-country, where you hold an account under an alias name. There are many of these storage locations and whilst I am sure none of these servers will stand a dedicated assault to inspect its contents, the sheer size of these storages will make it difficult to link it back to you. Delete the photos from the camera and overwrite them with other pictures: make sure the memory is totally full of photos.

Once at home, download from the storage site to a USB-drive and delete the stored files.

Mr Enternational
01-21-13, 22:56
How paranoid can you get? Do you actually think they can do something to you just because you were in another country fucking somebody? Get a grip.


I took the trolley to Tijuana at 1:33pm today. When I crossed the border the place where I always change money said be back in 5 minutes. So I ate a taco for 15 pesos. I exchanged $55 at a rate of 12. 735 and got 700. 42 pesos. Now the best exchange rate I saw today was at the place right next to McDonald's when you get off the trolley. Their rate was 12. 919, so I will be using them from now on...

I almost made it to the border when I saw the churro man. Dammit all to hell. I must have gained 8 pounds today. I asked him how much and he said 13 pesos. I told him to give me 10 pesos worth then because that is all I had. He filled the bag up and I ate them on my way to the line. Since I have the Global Entry Card I was able to go to the Sentry line. Actually there wasn't really a line since I was the only one there. I just went ahead of the people who were actually waiting in the regular line. I handed the Immigration guy my card and he scanned it. This was the moment I had been planning for all day. He asked me what I was doing in Mexico. I told him,"NOTHING. JUST FUCKIN' THEM HOES." He didn't bat an eyelid. He just said,"Okay. Go on." The time was 6:59pm and I had 100 pesos left.

Paul Kausch
01-22-13, 00:07
Mr. Kausch confuses yield with return. The ASEA exchange traded fund pays a DIVIDEND that is currently equal to a little more than two percent of it's share price. Investment pros calls this the YIELD. That's not to be confused with the RETURN, which is the change in the share price over time. On the last trading day of 2011 ASEA closed at $14. 37. On the last trading day of 2012 it closed at $17. 04. That's a return of 18. 6 percent last year. By way of comparison stocks in the United States (as measured by the Wilshire 5000 index) were up about 15 percent. Against that backdrop, Mr. Kausch is trailing the market, and by a lot. Given his lack of investing know-how, that's not surprising.

BunkyI fully understand the differences between yield (brokers in the USA now seem to prefer to call this income from the investment. I guess it is easier for the average person to understand) , capital gains (appreciation in value of the security) and total return on investment. Let me be more explicit. In 2012 my investments yielded 3. 5, the value of my investments appreciated about 7. 5. My ROI for the year was about 11. Of course in 2007 & 2008 the values took a beating, but my yields in absolute dollars hardly changed (so as a percentage of the value they actually went up).

Western787
01-22-13, 00:10
Don't email your photos: place them on a server, by preference outside of your home-country, where you hold an account under an alias name. There are many of these storage locations and whilst I am sure none of these servers will stand a dedicated assault to inspect its contents, the sheer size of these storages will make it difficult to link it back to you. Delete the photos from the camera and overwrite them with other pictures: make sure the memory is totally full of photos.

Once at home, download from the storage site to a USB-drive and delete the stored files.Those sound like reasonable steps, and it should be noted we're talking here (as I certainly am) in regard to age 18 and over perfectly legal photos, but ones that can possibly be misconstrued by over zealous border agents any way they might decide. The AC pool party questions prove that. As for Mr Enternational comments, he's got a point, however the focus on such a crossover he's alluding to is obviously drugs, with everything else secondary, plus he's talking 14 months ago.

As for the trafficking hype, here's a reference leading into last year's Superbowl.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/01/25/super-bowl-sex-trafficking-hysteria-back-in-the-news/

Tiger 888
01-22-13, 00:24
Bangkok is one of the word's largest mongering destinations, and Mai Yao post is a valuable early warning of a growing and expanding soon to get worse emerging issue directly flowing from the latest "scourge" so called human "trafficking", domestic or elsewhere. Law enforcement and homeland security now has to justify all that training and seminar time focused on this area, so they will attempt to build a case no matter how flimsy the evidence.

Its now reached hysteria levels in the USA, and government agencies and "NGO's" and others testifying before Congress have been repeatedly allowed to make up phony self serving (research grant fund perpetuating) statistics out of thin air without any factual basis, and if you don't believe this, research the phony stats used for the World Cup Games held in South Africa a few years back, as well as in Superbowls in the USA in recent years, such events in each case purportedly were to be descended upon from the outside by vast hordes of "trafficked" providers, which in each case has never happened, in fact with not even tiny numbers of such providers showing up.You are certainly right. Still it is not of interest to people who come here and search information about Bangkok and to those mwho don't travel to the US. It could be taken to the general reports thread, yet would be lost there also. Best to open an own thread that those interested can easily find it.

Nixonbd
01-22-13, 00:38
Making my 4th annual visit to Pattaya in September, was starting to wonder if I might be missing out by not trying BKK. My initial thoughts are that BKK is probably more expensive and action kind of spread out. Since I'm accustomed to Walking Street, I obviously feel very comfortable with everything right there and a very guest friendly hotel. Is the quality of the girls appreciably better in BKK, or am I wise to stay with all that Pattaya has to offer? I also imagine that one has to travel to different locations? Cost of hotels are higher, etc?

FruitNinja
01-22-13, 00:47
How paranoid can you get? Do you actually think they can do something to you just because you were in another country fucking somebody? Get a grip.Although I understand what some guys are saying and I's always smart to take precautions in all areas of life. Nobody is going to watch your back. That's your job. The smarter you are the more successful you will be. I'm not buying into this mass hysteria. Guy gets stopped because his paperwork is in order and gets his electronic devices searched. I'm not getting this. What is the probable cause? Because he was in Asia? Flimsy to say the least. And even if there are nude pictures on your PC it's the governments responsibility to prove guilt. Yeah I went to another country and screwed the heck out of the locals. I screw the heck out of 20 year old locals in the states. So what. The pictures aren't an issue. There's more than that available online.

There's more to the LAX hassle than we're being told. I know so many mongers and I've never heard of anyone getting hassled nor has there been any reporting on the boards until this. That I'm aware of. The amount of guys going to Asia for mongering purposes is huge. This would have been all over the news if it were an issue.

Next we'll be crying wolf about losing kidneys. Not that anyone would want my old ass kidneys.

Cbm2543
01-22-13, 01:47
But I am an American Citizen and I know my rights. My relationship with my girlfriend at the time was imaterial to anything he might be looking for and he has no right to pry into my personal life just because he's bored. Pull me aside for what? I WILL NOT be frightened or cower to a government I helped elect. The last time an innocent citizen got harassed at a major airport it was all over the news because he made sure it was news. They do not like trouble or want to be the customs officer responsible for negative publicity.Well not here to badger you or to flame you. Just going to try and set you straight. As a Customs Agent here in the states. I will let you / others know whats actually going on.

First off we can't legally search you without "probable cause" therefore we have a screening process which we ask questions about your trip looking for signs of hesitation, nervousness etc. If you just said "I went on vacation or business" you would of gone through the line no problems, but when you become combative and show telling signs of not telling the truth. You've just played into the "I'm HIDING SOMETHING ZONE". There is a saying "Just go along to get along"

You are a citizen of the USA and you say you know your rights, but ANY LE Agency has the "RIGHT" to ask you where you been and what you were doing. We aren't trying to pry into your private life we are just doing our job. Which is the screening process.

I hope you understand I am just trying to help you / others out so you won't have any further problems when coming through Customs.

Rjsss212
01-22-13, 02:07
Making my 4th annual visit to Pattaya in September, was starting to wonder if I might be missing out by not trying BKK. My initial thoughts are that BKK is probably more expensive and action kind of spread out. Since I'm accustomed to Walking Street, I obviously feel very comfortable with everything right there and a very guest friendly hotel. Is the quality of the girls appreciably better in BKK, or am I wise to stay with all that Pattaya has to offer? I also imagine that one has to travel to different locations? Cost of hotels are higher, etc?Correct on all counts. If you're OK with the quality and convenience in Patts then BKK's got nothing for you. More spread out and the quality isn't spectacular anyway.

I'the recommend since you're transiting BKK anyway leave Patts early and spend a night or two at the JW. Great digs and location overlooking ground zero and you'll find everything you need at NaNa.

Luvpuss
01-22-13, 02:11
Making my 4th annual visit to Pattaya in September, was starting to wonder if I might be missing out by not trying BKK. My initial thoughts are that BKK is probably more expensive and action kind of spread out. Since I'm accustomed to Walking Street, I obviously feel very comfortable with everything right there and a very guest friendly hotel. Is the quality of the girls appreciably better in BKK, or am I wise to stay with all that Pattaya has to offer? I also imagine that one has to travel to different locations? Cost of hotels are higher, etc?Why not expand your horizon. To me any true monger has to hit up BKK.

I have actually shit canned Pattaya for awhile. It is not the mongering, but the crowds and people visiting that start to wear on you.

I have pretty much settled on BKK as the main place I come now. The hotels here are not that much more and actually a much broader selection for decent prices. GF is the norm.

Don't be intimidated. It is not as spread out as you think. You can walk from Nana area to Soi Cowboy with many SW and FL spots between. Also, take Skytrain to other areas such as Patpong.

Give BKK a shot you won't regret it.

Luvpuss
01-22-13, 02:17
You Finally broke your SOL Cherry! Next is take 2 girls and do them both on the couch, in the bar! While other girls and customers watch.It would be embarassing since my ass is starting to look like a peach pit.

Mackin
01-22-13, 02:35
Changing the topic from immigration to girls and bars seemed about correct as he other ws getting boring,

Last night was out for short while after eating dinner. First thought I just payed 12. 00 US for a hamburg and 3. 00 US for a glass of ice tea. Won't be back there any time soon. Noticed a new

Club across the street. OK, have look. 7 girls working. Beer standard price for the area. Very few customers. Ask mamason if girls do a BF. There were a couple of cute ones. She says yes they do BF. OK how much. Grab your ass now. She says 1600Bt for BF and then what ever the girl and you decide. So with current exchange she wants 53. 00 US for a bar fine. Now add in the what the girl wants and and you get around 130. 00 for short time. You can find cheaper in both nana and cowboy with no problem. You know it is going to be least 2000bt for ST. I ask asked her if this was early price and she says all the time price. So at 2 in morning it is still 1600BT, Yes it is. I sort of laughed and finished my beer and left.

Talk abut getting more expensive, This is crazy. PM if want name of place so can get screwed from food or BF.

This place won't last and the girls will still be very fresh at this cost

Crazy4Thai
01-22-13, 03:42
Talk abut getting more expensive, This is crazy. PM if want name of place so can get screwed from food or BF.

This place won't last and the girls will still be very fresh at this costIt sounds like you were on Soi 33 as those are the normal prices there. Quite a shock for the first timer. No need to hide the name of the place, your post would be more meaningful if you simply shared the details in your original post.

Paul Kausch
01-22-13, 04:14
Mr. Kausch confuses yield with return. The ASEA exchange traded fund pays a DIVIDEND that is currently equal to a little more than two percent of it's share price. Investment pros calls this the YIELD. That's not to be confused with the RETURN, which is the change in the share price over time. On the last trading day of 2011 ASEA closed at $14. 37. On the last trading day of 2012 it closed at $17. 04. That's a return of 18. 6 percent last year. By way of comparison stocks in the United States (as measured by the Wilshire 5000 index) were up about 15 percent. Against that backdrop, Mr. Kausch is trailing the market, and by a lot. Given his lack of investing know-how, that's not surprising.

BunkyI should also mention. I pay little attention to performance over short time frames like one year. I don't buy funds. I buy individual stocks. I buy when everyone else is selling. I buy with the intention of never selling. I only invest in USA listed companies. I prefer companies with significant revenue streams outside of the USA. My portfolio year after year yields 3 to 5 percent. Growth over the past 25 years has been on average about 4 to 5 percent per year above inflation. I carefully study before investing. I draw heavily on my business experience and industry knowledge (I've held several different C Suite management positions) and Ph. D. In statistics. I like it when the market goes up. I'm making money. I like it when the market goes down. It's an opportunity to buy good stocks at good values. I don't fret; I don't worry; I just make money, year, after year after year. True, I have no formal education in finance; and I am not a licensed broker. In addition to my own money, I manage trusts for relatives who are even more elderly than me and use brokers. Often I disagree with their brokers' recommendations. My relatives far more often than not have benefited from following my advice.

FreebieFan
01-22-13, 04:44
Yes, its a term now starting to be used by the "rescue industry" to convert all providers into victims, therefore turning all clients into potential aiders and and abettors of trafficking,The sad folks at IPJ (another NGO) love playing politics with the Philippines. Philippines loves taking their money and so there are regualar "rescue missions" where the cops and IPJ prats all go to a well known bar, raid the place, take the girls away and proudly proclaim they have "rescued" x number of girls.

Sadly they have never realised that:

1. The girls arent exactly happy as they lost a nights earnings

2. Girls will be back working in the same or another bar the next night.

3. For the girls who don't go back to their bar, they will often become SW's. Way more dangerous lifestyle, which the IPJ saviours never consider.

All in all a total waste of time but one that clearly panders to the do-gooders.

Dreams
01-22-13, 05:55
Well sorry about being a guy with such plain likes and nothing in the weird category. The weirdest I ever get, is taking more than one girl concurrently for extended sex sessions. That can be a lot of fun with the right girls. Probably doesn't even start to qualify as weird.

Bangkok is not a place to stay for any length of time for many.Weel, don't be sorry.

You are probably much younger than me, and tastes evolve with age.

"Weird" does not mean necessarily something that akward. I probably should have used the words " different"or varied". I am not in SM or anything like it. But Japan can cater for any fantasies, including breast feeding, pregnant woman, fat women etc. I am not in any of those, but I enjoy the excitment of the hunt for the unusual and untested. Anyway, this is not the Tokyo thread. So I leave it here.

Needless to say that I l ook forward to my 24 h in BKK anyway.

NicFrenchy
01-22-13, 06:07
Well not here to badger you or to flame you. Just going to try and set you straight. As a Customs Agent here in the states. I will let you / others know whats actually going on.

First off we can't legally search you without "probable cause" therefore we have a screening process which we ask questions about your trip looking for signs of hesitation, nervousness etc. If you just said "I went on vacation or business" you would of gone through the line no problems, but when you become combative and.

show telling signs of not telling the truth. You've just played into the "I'm HIDING SOMETHING ZONE". There is a saying "Just go along to get along"

You are a citizen of the USA and you say you know your rights, but ANY LE Agency has the "RIGHT" to ask you where you been and what you were doing. We aren't trying to pry into your private life we are just doing our job. Which is the screening process.

I hope you understand I am just trying to help you / others out so you won't have any further problems when coming through Customs.Very good insight and thank you for posting this. I know it isn't the right thread but it could be very valuable info for many here so thanks.

My only question is on the part I made Bold: "show telling signs of not telling the truth"

Now do you really think people will get away with telling the truth?"I went to Bangkok for 4 days and fucked 15 girls, all above 20 years of age, I even did 5 of them up the ass". Is that really what Immigration wants to hear?

Mackin
01-22-13, 06:47
By far not a first timer. Try Lips for over priced. Other places along 33 not that crazy with prices as you might know

Mr Enternational
01-22-13, 06:48
My only question is on the part I made Bold: "show telling signs of not telling the truth"

Now do you really think people will get away with telling the truth?"I went to Bangkok for 4 days and fucked 15 girls, all above 20 years of age, I even did 5 of them up the ass". Is that really what Immigration wants to hear?Don't matter what they want to hear. Once again, they can not do anything about you fucking someone of legal age with consent. What do YOU actually think would happen to a person who said those exact words? Hmm. Finger wag? Chop their dick off? 24 hours in solitary confinement? Where is it written in the laws of the USA that a citizen is forbidden to have sex outside of its borders? I have already proven a point by telling the agent EXACTLY what I was in Mexico for. Did I get asked more questions? No. Did I get searched? No. Was I detained? No. I was just told to go about my way. The poster that you previously quoted told you exactly how it goes down. How many western males do you think get off a plane from Thailand, PI, Brazil, Dominican Republic, or Colombia everyday? Surely they are not putting every one of them through the ringer.

Again, after hundreds of trips abroad I have only gotten searched 4 times. Twice because I said I had crocodile skin with me that I declared. All I had to do was put my bag through the x-ray. The second time the guy told me that if I didn't have but so much (probably had a wallet and a belt or something) then there was no need to say. They didn't care about that. But if I had an extraordinary amount then I would need to say something. Another time I went to an agent who I know personally and he marked the "A" on my customs form, which means that I would have to go to Agriculture. (If they mark a vertical line on your form you are clear to go straight though customs. If they mark an A then you will have to put your bag through the x-ray in agriculture. For each piece of raw fruit, vegetable, or meat the fine is $500.) It was the same place and same machine I went to for the crocodile skin on a previous entrance.

And the fourth time was maybe a year and a half ago. I came from Colombia to New York. I went through Global Entry and was in a hurry to make my connection. After I got my card out of the machine and started making a dash the customs agent ran up behind me and asked me to come with her. We went to a normal table in that same huge room where all the baggage carousels are. (The very room that this show was filmed in. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/to-catch-a-smuggler/ Check the episodes. Do you see anything about people getting busted for having sex or taking naughty pictures overseas?) In plain view of hundreds of people, she took everything out of my bag and poked some parts with an awl looking for drugs. I also had to turn the power on my computer to show her that it boots up. No putting in my password to unlock it, no searching through files, none of that shit. Just make it lights up and you can turn it back off. I had maybe 20 bootleg DVDs and a few knock off shirts that she didn't even say a word about. When she didn't find any drugs she left me to put my own shit back into my bag and go about my way.

So if I have been through that many times with no problems, and some of you guys probably don't travel near as much as I do but are having so many tales of woe, then maybe you need to play the lottery. Your probability of a hit is obviously much greater than mine.

Syzygies
01-22-13, 07:07
It would be embarassing since my ass is starting to look like a peach pit.Personally I would much rather do them in the Bar (and have). I never used that horrid little room. The draw back of in the bar, is they seemed to want to give a rather limited length of time. With take out to The Strand hotel nearby (better quality ST Hotel) , got to do 2 girls at very leasurely pace.

NicFrenchy
01-22-13, 07:28
With take out to The Strand hotel nearby (better quality ST Hotel) , got to do 2 girls at very leasurely pace.Ah, if my memory serves me right, you even granted us with pics of that encounter.

Mambo Robert
01-22-13, 07:39
Will be flying into DM from Chiang Rai on Friday noon and have four hours to kill before having to check in for international flight out (airasia).

I know a few places around Swampy to have some fun and occupy myself but no nothing around DM.

So after I check my my bag in the locker I'm off to wander. And at lunch time this could well be a stretch.

Any tips on girls, short time hotel, nearest BJ bar, nearest expat / farang friendly bar with girls.

I imagine the local hotels have jacked up the prices since DM opened again, but is there any "entertainment" also available.

Syzygies
01-22-13, 08:02
Ah, if my memory serves me right, you even granted us with pics of that encounter.I don't want to see that. I was too fat then and also my standards for girl looks has increased. Som's Deep Throat is missed though.

Luvpuss
01-22-13, 08:28
i picked up a sw last night off nana. small, cute spinner. very dark skin and she said she has been in town for one day from the north.

when we got to the st room i saw her in better light. so i ask her how old she was. she stuttered and said "15".

i think she was more like 13. i asked her if she had i'd and she said no. i got the fuck out of there and told the hotel manager that i had suspicions she was ****d.

i later say her walking with some black dude across from grace hotel.

Syzygies
01-22-13, 09:37
i picked up a sw last night off nana. small, cute spinner. very dark skin and she said she has been in town for one day from the north.

when we got to the st room i saw her in better light. so i ask her how old she was. she stuttered and said "15".

i think she was more like 13. i asked her if she had i'd and she said no. i got the fuck out of there and told the hotel manager that i had suspicions she was ****d.

i later say her walking with some black dude across from grace hotel.she may not have even been a thai national. could have come from neighbouring countries or?

Luvpuss
01-22-13, 09:47
She may not have even been a Thai National. Could have come from neighbouring countries or?It is possible. She was extremely dark. Maybe the Black dude was her buddy / fellow countryman.

Tiger 888
01-22-13, 10:43
It is possible. She was extremely dark. Maybe the Black dude was her buddy / fellow countryman.Or pimp / manager.

Western787
01-22-13, 13:54
From his point of view,"the road is dying". He really nailed it in that interview. http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Livingstones-Bangkok.htm


Last night was out for short while after eating dinner. First thought I just payed 12. 00 US for a hamburg and 3. 00 US for a glass of ice tea. Won't be back there any time soon. Noticed a new

Club across the street. OK, have look. 7 girls working. Beer standard price for the area. Very few customers. Ask mamason if girls do a BF. There were a couple of cute ones. She says yes they do BF. OK how much. Grab your ass now. She says 1600Bt for BF and then what ever the girl and you decide. So with current exchange she wants 53. 00 US for a bar fine. Now add in the what the girl wants and and you get around 130. 00 for short time. You can find cheaper in both nana and cowboy with no problem. You know it is going to be least 2000bt for ST. I ask asked her if this was early price and she says all the time price. So at 2 in morning it is still 1600BT, Yes it is. I sort of laughed and finished my beer and left.

Talk abut getting more expensive, This is crazy. PM if want name of place so can get screwed from food or BF.

This place won't last and the girls will still be very fresh at this cost

Margaya
01-22-13, 16:21
Gentlemen,

How are chances of finding some quality freelancers in Thermae / Biere garden during noon hours? Or is it only after sundown that half decent FLs show up?

Syzygies
01-22-13, 17:57
About 30 years ago I came to Bangkok, was staying at the Ambassador, and I believe that I was walking somewhere near Sukhumvit Soi 2 (perhaps) and happened on a Soapy with a Fish Bowl and had my first bath and massage (Thai style) by a nude Thai girl who spoke no English at all. It may have been called the "Golden Gate". If anyone knows exactly where the Golden Gate soapy massage was and / or when it closed, I would be interested. Perhaps I should be asking the matriarch Annie at "Annies" this question. Not sure if Aey is old enough to know anything about this one.

Bilbo456
01-22-13, 18:17
I should also mention. I pay little attention to performance over short time frames like one year.

Your on the wrong board, try seeking Alpha or something. Will you people stop talking sh*t about everything but the topic in hand.

Paul Kausch
01-22-13, 18:27
Your on the wrong board, try seeking Alpha or something. Will you people stop talking sh*t about everything but the topic in hand.Sorry, I'm relatively new and still learning the local customs. The off-topic string of posts started when I replied to another member's post promoting an investment fund to the readers. Won't happen again. My apologies.

Mcavity
01-22-13, 19:07
About 30 years ago I came to Bangkok, was staying at the Ambassador, and I believe that I was walking somewhere near Sukhumvit Soi 2 (perhaps) and happened on a Soapy with a Fish Bowl and had my first bath and massage (Thai style) by a nude Thai girl who spoke no English at all. It may have been called the "Golden Gate". If anyone knows exactly where the Golden Gate soapy massage was and / or when it closed, I would be interested. Perhaps I should be asking the matriarch Annie at "Annies" this question. Not sure if Aey is old enough to know anything about this one.I made my trip to Golden Gate in 1987. I had five hours between flights, rushed out of the airport grabbed a taxi and said take me to a massage parlour. Risky I know and ripe for a rip off but no problems. Had my two hour multi pop session for about $30-$40, back to the airport to get my flight and slept soundly for the rest of my journey. I can't recall where in BKK it was though. Next in BKK in 1993 I checked the yellow pages and it was still operating but no chance of a visit. Back again in 2001 and it had gone by then so made Mona Lisa my regular.

PinkPearl
01-22-13, 22:38
My only question is on the part I made Bold: "show telling signs of not telling the truth"

Now do you really think people will get away with telling the truth?"I went to Bangkok for 4 days and fucked 15 girls, all above 20 years of age, I even did 5 of them up the ass". Is that really what Immigration wants to hear?That would be overkill.

Immigration doesn't want to listen to a boring sea story, they don't have time for chit chat, but as the employee stated simply respond that you were travelling or on business.

BTW I used to be stopped & interogated, with a thorough search of all my belongings, almost everytime upon returning to Canada, though not since I've been flying business class. Since then the worst I've experienced was a snide comment about LOS & Cambodia stamps in my passport, to which I made no response, before sending me on my way.

BionicMan
01-23-13, 00:36
I made my trip to Golden Gate in 1987. I had five hours between flights, rushed out of the airport grabbed a taxi and said take me to a massage parlour. I can't recall where in BKK it was though. Next in BKK in 1993 I checked the yellow pages and it was still operating but no chance of a visit. Back again in 2001 and it had gone by then so made Mona Lisa my regular.A that time BBK airpost was Don Muang, that means a totally different area than the current BKK. So the position perception is also misleaded by a different taxi route than current.

BionicMan
01-23-13, 00:38
Gentlemen,How are chances of finding some quality freelancers in Thermae / Biere garden during noon hours? Or is it only after sundown that half decent FLs show up?As "pretty" or "quality" is a very individual rating nobody can really answer properly. But I can tell you you will find girls available of a large age spam at Beer Garden in the lunch / afternoon hours.

BionicMan
01-23-13, 00:51
It sounds like you were on Soi 33 as those are the normal prices there. Quite a shock for the first timer. No need to hide the name of the place, your post would be more meaningful if you simply shared the details in your original post.Soi 33 is known for its high BF.

A way to discourage a punter to take the girl too early, reduce the bar girls in the joint and reduce the "drinking / spending capacity" of the punter.

So it is either you stay (and drink) till the BF goes down (after 11pm) or pay the higher BF ("compensating the bar for the lost revenue) before that. Whetehr before or after the time mark, BF's in Soir 33 are more expensive than Soi Cowboy, Nana etc. Suiting more the japanese clientele who does not care much about those price levels.

Syzygies
01-23-13, 03:03
Soi 33 is known for its high BF.

A way to discourage a punter to take the girl too early, reduce the bar girls in the joint and reduce the "drinking / spending capacity" of the punter.That did not read quite right I think.

The high BF early on is a way to increase the bar girls in the bar and keep the customers there longer, and in the end sell more drinks. If BF early its like you pay for extra drinks that you did not actually have. Its then a question of how hot the girl is wheher she is going to be worth an extra BF. In many cases, not.

Cbm2543
01-23-13, 03:09
Very good insight and thank you for posting this. I know it isn't the right thread but it could be very valuable info for many here so thanks.

My only question is on the part I made Bold: "show telling signs of not telling the truth"

Now do you really think people will get away with telling the truth?"I went to Bangkok for 4 days and fucked 15 girls, all above 20 years of age, I even did 5 of them up the ass". Is that really what Immigration wants to hear?If you wanted to be that truthful, then sure. I'm sure 98% percent of us would ask you how it was. Like I said we are just screening to see how you act when questioned whether its why or where you traveled to and what you are declaring when coming back into the country. There are many tell tale signs when someone is not telling the truth, so like I stated before if you got nothing to hide then just let them know. I'm not saying to be so blatant and tell them you fucked x # of ladies but vacation is good enough.

It's not against the law to bang 100 girls of legal age. I have personally seen "vacation pictures" from all sorts of people that were rather XXX rated while doing advanced interrogation. Some very questionable, as in "if the girl wasn't of legal age". The problem is finding the girl that was actually in the photo is like finding a needle in a hay stack to really take the investigation to the end. My advice to all you who like to take "RECOLLECTION PICTURES" send the questionable ones to your email just in case you are profiled.

On another note* for god's sake please stop trying to bring fruit back. Seriously ya'all the fruit ain't that good.

I also do Personal Protection Services part time for a company based in the USA. I recently made a trip with a client to Bangkok for business. I wasn't lucky enough to partake in the mongering, but that will all change this Sept when vacation time arrives. Anyways I flew home after the detail and I was even given the "THROUGH" screening processatMIA INT'L (first time ever. In I would say at least 75+ international flights. So it's just random who we choose to question don't take it to heart.

Paul Kausch
01-23-13, 05:03
that did not read quite right i think.

the high bf early on is a way to increase the bar girls in the bar and keep the customers there longer, and in the end sell more drinks. if bf early its like you pay for extra drinks that you did not actually have. its then a question of how hot the girl is wheher she is going to be worth an extra bf. in many cases, not.right, the choices are: (1) do i bar fine her now or (2) wait and bar fine her later when the rate goes down. if i bare fine her now, the bar has collected an outrageous amount of money. if i wait till later i have two choices: (1) do i keep her occupied by buying drinks for both of us or (2) do i take a walk and come back later after the bar fine has been reduced. its costly to keep buying drinks, which offsets savings from the reduced bar fine. the economical choice, coming back later, carries the risk of someone else snatching her out from under me. after all, if i think she's hot enough to bar fine, others probably do as well. and someone may be willing to pay that outrageous bar fine. all of this assumes the lady is a hot ticket. are the ladies in the bars on soi 33 hotter than the bar girls, mp girls, fl? i took a quick peek in some of the artist bars back in december. i found them empty, dreary and the women were average looking.

Dreams
01-23-13, 06:24
Sorry, I'm relatively new and still learning the local customs. The off-topic string of posts started when I replied to another member's post promoting an investment fund to the readers. Won't happen again. My apologies.You don't have to apologise to self appointed "moderators", who hardly ever contributed anything ueful to this thread.

Bunky
01-23-13, 06:25
I recommend since you're transiting BKK anyway leave Patts early and spend a night or two at the J.W. Marriott. Great digs and location overlooking ground zero and you'll find everything you need at Nana Plaza.This is my favored itinerary. I spend the majority of my time in Pattaya, where like the original poster I enjoy the vibe. But on my way home I spend at least a few nights in Bangkok. The scene isn't *really* that spread out. You've got Soi Cowboy and you've got Nana Plaza, and the Skytrain connecting them. Scope out the Bangkok hotel thread and pick any of the recommended places. You'll end up with easy access to the naughty boy haunts. As for the quality of the girls, that's a debate never to be settled. I personally like the go go scene and to my eye the top girls in Bangkok at places like Rainbow 4 in Nana or Baccara on Soi Cowboy are very hot indeed. Finally, when my holiday is finally over it's nice to be closer to the airport.

Bunky

Dreams
01-23-13, 06:30
Very good insight and thank you for posting this. I know it isn't the right thread but it could be very valuable info for many here so thanks.

My only question is on the part I made Bold: "show telling signs of not telling the truth"

Now do you really think people will get away with telling the truth?"I went to Bangkok for 4 days and fucked 15 girls, all above 20 years of age, I even did 5 of them up the ass". Is that really what Immigration wants to hear?For what it is worth, here my own story:

Was crossing back, on foot, the border between Tijuana and San Ysidro, back from a good day at the Hong kong club. Had stayed 8 hours, fucked 3 girls and groped about 100. Was asked what I had been doing there. Answered;"went to the clubs". Got a nasty look, but no more questions. Bis repetita the following day. Unlucky as I was, I got the same officer. He got all agitated and started to shout " again, on a week day!" I just answered with a smile: "yes, I had 2 days off, I liked the clubs, so decided to go back. And I am flying back to london tomorrow". He had no othger options but let me go. I add that I had no luggage, therefore no PCs, and just a cell phone with no photo, in case.

Syzygies
01-23-13, 06:39
Cannot beat the Bangkok Eyes website for the latest monthly info on what is going on, although its a little bit too bar centric:

http://www.bangkokeyes.com/

Guido88
01-23-13, 06:56
yes, its a term now starting to be used by the "rescue industry" to convert all providers into victims, therefore turning all clients into potential aiders and and abettors of trafficking, and thus major felons. its also being used in regard to **** 18 providers, as it is here:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8636125.

to me any client involving himself with under 18 providers is looking for trouble and should be ready to go to jail anyways.

the big problem with the term "self trafficked" is when they claim for example in regard to 18 year old and over providers, that while they may nominally appear to consent, since (in their view) everyone knows no rational woman would ever sell herself for money, then it has to be forced from the outside on them somehow, meaning she is still a victim, and her client by definition a trafficking perpetrator of some type. its a very condescending outlook seeing women as helpless dupes, but this is how the "rescue industry" is framing the debate.

this is the fig leaf they're using to try to shut down the entire sex industry, eventually including many strip clubs in the usa, as well as whatever else they can shut down in other countries. meanwhile rich guys having mistresses or similar arrangements will still be perfectly legal, as no laws will ever apply to them.western.

enough with the paranoid bullshit.

customs could care less what we are rubbing our peckers on. any individual over 18 years old can do what they want without having to answer for their activities to anyone.

your stirring up a non existent tempest for 'sex tourism' is simply inaccurate. in no way is the usa government attempting to regulate legal 18 year old + encounters anywhere in the world.

imho somewhere there is a bridge missing its troll.

guido88

Luvpuss
01-23-13, 09:52
hit up one of the mp's early. first place on right as you enter the tunnel of mp's.

older gal with nice body. quotes 1000 b including massage for bbbj / cfs.

decent ride for the price.

i will just say again i have never been to one of the soi 11 mp's and not gotten fs.

had some lunch after the soi 11 mp and went to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. just for info, and most probably know they raised the price to 800 b now. i picked som.

average face and very nice body. very clean and sweet.

she was great. she has long finger nails and scratched my chest and ass as she blew me.

she started to use some hand and i pulled it away and she did a very good job with mouth only.

some other great play in the booth. i recommend her.

Luvpuss
01-23-13, 10:35
OK, I admit, I have been going to more of these places. Not to BF, but just to have some fun.

Last night I went to what I believe was Shark. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I went into about 8 places and did not look at all the names.

On the second floor thay have 4 or 5 tables with poles where the girls dance naked while you sit close and have a drink. As long as you occasionally put 20 B into the girls garter, you get attention.

There were 3 girls dancing.

I was alone at my table and the girl was very cute and slim. After she danced and I tipped her, she had no issue with me rubbing her legs and grabbing / rubbing her ass. She put her pussy in my face and rubbed her tits on me.

At one point after I gave her several tips, she put her ass crack in my face and I took a few licks.

After her dance, she came to sit on my lap and I bought her a drink. 150B. She put on a g string type panty and skimpy top.

She rubbed her ass on my cock. I put my fingers down her ass crack and was rubbing her shaved pussy. This went on for several minutes. There were 2 Japanese guys at another table and they were pointing at us and laughing.

Then the Mgr. comes over and says,"she likes you. 600 BF and 2000 B ST". I thought about it but declined.

Ended up with a couple of Nana SW's later in the evening.

At the Gogo, I think I invested about 500B total for about 40 minutes of a pretty good time.

Nvslim
01-23-13, 10:42
Hi Bilbo. A very nice report! You wouldn't by chance remember what massage parlour and the name of the gal you had on

Soi 24, would you?You posted 5 screens of a quote just to ask a question about a girl. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post]. Some people read the forums on smart phones and tablets and scrolling through a long quote is a pain.

Slim

Raing Dam
01-23-13, 10:44
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

Dr BJ
01-23-13, 13:53
About 30 years ago I came to Bangkok, was staying at the Ambassador, and I believe that I was walking somewhere near Sukhumvit Soi 2 (perhaps) and happened on a Soapy with a Fish Bowl and had my first bath and massage (Thai style) by a nude Thai girl who spoke no English at all. It may have been called the "Golden Gate". If anyone knows exactly where the Golden Gate soapy massage was and / or when it closed, I would be interested. Perhaps I should be asking the matriarch Annie at "Annies" this question. Not sure if Aey is old enough to know anything about this one.I will be happy to ask her and get back to you. I probably see her every other day.

Regards,

BJ

Tits_Lover
01-23-13, 14:14
This is my favored itinerary. I spend the majority of my time in Pattaya, where like the original poster I enjoy the vibe. But on my way home I spend at least a few nights in Bangkok. The scene isn't *really* that spread out. You've got Soi Cowboy and you've got Nana Plaza, and the Skytrain connecting them. Scope out the Bangkok hotel thread and pick any of the recommended places. You'll end up with easy access to the naughty boy haunts. As for the quality of the girls, that's a debate never to be settled. I personally like the go go scene and to my eye the top girls in Bangkok at places like Rainbow 4 in Nana or Baccara on Soi Cowboy are very hot indeed. Finally, when my holiday is finally over it's nice to be closer to the airport.

BunkyI second your post. Have been many times in both places and I can say BKK has nothing less than Pattaya, maybe less quantity overall but enough for most.

If we all would use more our brain to think and plan and less our cock. Anyway, my cock just bought a weekend ticket for BKK.

Any wingman around this weekend? Looking to visit GOGO on SC and Nana. (Baccara and Rainb4 being my fav). Will have a trip to Cherry and Mango as well.

Cheers

Bilbo456
01-23-13, 14:54
You don't have to apologise to self appointed "moderators", who hardly ever contributed anything ueful to this thread.Dreams have you actually been anywhere or have you just been 'Dreaming'? Or do you just post irrelevant information on a range of forums? Is there actually one post of any useful new information from your 1200+ posts or are they all irrelevant questions, statements and nothing of any value?

Bilbo456
01-23-13, 14:57
OsakaGin11. The place is called Dreams Heaven Massage. They wouldn't budge on price but do try to haggle. I think she saw the look in my eyes when they did the line up. She will also put you with the least popular girl, just ignore that and say the one that you want. They have 2 branches. One on Soi 33 Sukumvhit and on on Soi 24/1.

NicFrenchy
01-23-13, 16:33
BKK has nothing less than PattayaWell for one, they have less Old Topless Tattooed fucking Russians

Syzygies
01-23-13, 16:36
Last night I went to what I believe was Shark. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I went into about 8 places and did not look at all the names.

On the second floor thay have 4 or 5 tables with poles where the girls dance naked while you sit close and have a drink. As long as you occasionally put 20 B into the girls garter, you get attention.

There were 3 girls dancing.

I was alone at my table and the girl was very cute and slim. After she danced and I tipped her, she had no issue with me rubbing her legs and grabbing / rubbing her ass. She put her pussy in my face and rubbed her tits on me.

At one point after I gave her several tips, she put her ass crack in my face and I took a few licks.Actually sounds like "Dolls House" not far from Shark.

NicFrenchy
01-23-13, 16:46
Like I said we are just screening to see how you act when questioned whether its why or where you traveled to and what you are declaring when coming back into the countryWelcome to the Land of the Free (Sorry, Land of the Fucked up the ass). When you go to any Airport in America, you are not protected by the constitution, you are not protected by the bill of rights, you can't even know what the Rules are because it's considered "National Security" so the minimum wage TSA assholes can do anything they want to you and you have no way to refuse. Ever since 9/11, Americans traded Freedom for Security. Well, Good luck with that.

NicFrenchy
01-23-13, 16:47
Actually sounds like "Dolls House" not far from Shark.Yes you are right, It is Doll House.

Syzygies
01-23-13, 17:30
Yes you are right, It is Doll House.I see now it is called "Dollhouse" (no "s") so I was close. I should remember that Thais generally don't use plurals or possessive S.

E. G. Angel Massage and not Angels. Nancy Soapy and not Nancy's.

The exception that comes to mind is Annie's.

On a funny note, while Long Gun's official name was "Lucky Star", Shark's official name was "The New Agogo Duck" and they were forced to have signage with that name at one time although may have only been in Thai script. (Source: Bangkok Eyes)

Paul Kausch
01-23-13, 21:34
This is my favored itinerary. I spend the majority of my time in Pattaya, where like the original poster I enjoy the vibe. But on my way home I spend at least a few nights in Bangkok. The scene isn't *really* that spread out. You've got Soi Cowboy and you've got Nana Plaza, and the Skytrain connecting them. Scope out the Bangkok hotel thread and pick any of the recommended places. You'll end up with easy access to the naughty boy haunts. As for the quality of the girls, that's a debate never to be settled. I personally like the go go scene and to my eye the top girls in Bangkok at places like Rainbow 4 in Nana or Baccara on Soi Cowboy are very hot indeed. Finally, when my holiday is finally over it's nice to be closer to the airport.

BunkyExcellent advice. The JW Marriott is an very nice hotel in a fantastic location. It is five star and priced accordingly. There are many other options at every price point near Nana and Soi Cowboy. Use Trip Advisor, Agoda, etc. To find these. Read the reviews and pick the place that suits your tastes and budget.

Tiger 888
01-23-13, 21:52
Welcome to the Land of the Free (Sorry, Land of the Fucked up the ass). When you go to any Airport in America, you are not protected by the constitution, you are not protected by the bill of rights, you can't even know what the Rules are because it's considered "National Security" so the minimum wage TSA assholes can do anything they want to you and you have no way to refuse. Ever since 9/11, Americans traded Freedom for Security. Well, Good luck with that.You are very right. And I feel sorry for the ones who have to deal with it. I am in the fortunate situation not to have to go there.

BionicMan
01-23-13, 22:34
You are a citizen of the USA and you say you know your rights, but ANY LE Agency has the "RIGHT" to ask you where you been and what you were doing. We aren't trying to pry into your private life we are just doing our job. Which is the screening process.I hope you understand I am just trying to help you / others out so you won't have any further problems when coming through Customs.My question is "what's the purpose of a screening process to question why somebody went to tahiland (for sake of argument and to stay On Topic) , flexing the muscles or what? Do your bosses think that a criminal (and in this I include a lot of potential people with criminal history) will be intimidated by this screening process? How many guys have been put in the black list just by a common name? There was even a boy (I think 10 yo) being questioned a and refused to enter US because he had the same name of a possible terrorist. A 10yo BOY taken as a possible terrorist just by the name! How smart is that? How are agents being screened to perform such a job? I have seen lots of arrogance from your fellow collegues, intimaditing people, trying to have them reacting (badly then, and I mean verbally) hoping then to be able to stand up, call security and say "here we are, found a criminal".

It come to my mind that the vast majority if threaten to home security in your country came from people who was "screened" and went through. Being then able to prepare whatever they wanted. (and some did). So, at the end of the day, those terrorist were at their "home" somehow. DId they escape because they did not travel to LOS?

Cbm2543
01-24-13, 00:39
My question is "what's the purpose of a screening process to question why somebody went to tahiland (for sake of argument and to stay On Topic) , flexing the muscles or what? Do your bosses think that a criminal (and in this I include a lot of potential people with criminal history) will be intimidated by this screening process? How many guys have been put in the black list just by a common name? There was even a boy (I think 10 yo) being questioned a and refused to enter US because he had the same name of a possible terrorist. A 10yo BOY taken as a possible terrorist just by the name! How smart is that? How are agents being screened to perform such a job? I have seen lots of arrogance from your fellow collegues, intimaditing people, trying to have them reacting (badly then, and I mean verbally) hoping then to be able to stand up, call security and say "here we are, found a criminal".

It come to my mind that the vast majority if threaten to home security in your country came from people who was "screened" and went through. Being then able to prepare whatever they wanted. (and some did). So, at the end of the day, those terrorist were at their "home" somehow. DId they escape because they did not travel to LOS?Nobody is flexing their muscles. We use the same screening no matter what country you are arriving from whether is Mexico, Europe, Asia, Middle East etc. Now do some agents take there job a little to far. Sure they do just like a lot of others in different professions where they have authority over other people. Is it right? NO, but simple way is get there name and file a report if it bothered you that much. Can't weed out the bad people if you don't report them. Some airports only have 2 agents working arrivals, so the only witness is prolly his friend so report it through proper channels and things get done THEY REALLY DO.

As for the 10 yr old boy. Guess you haven't spent much time in the middle east. Not sure where you are from but there isn't a AGE LIMIT for terrorism. In the USA you wouldn't think people would use little children to do wrong things but it happens in many countries. But let me ask this. If the 10 yr old was a terrorist and happened to board your wife's plane or child's plane and blew it up but we let him pass through cause he was a child although his name is on a list. How would you feel? My bet is you would of wished we stopped him to question him.

Since 9/11 the game has changed. Everything takes a little longer. Ask the people that travel back and forth on foot / car to mexico or canada.

Hope this explains a few things for you

Paul2020
01-24-13, 05:38
. Ever since 9/11, Americans traded Freedom for Security. Well, Good luck with that.As an American citizen, I want to tell you that you are wrong. We didn't trade freedom for security, we traded freedom for harassment and show.

Dr BJ
01-24-13, 05:58
As for the 10 yr old boy. Guess you haven't spent much time in the middle east. Not sure where you are from but there isn't a AGE LIMIT for terrorism. In the USA you wouldn't think people would use little children to do wrong things but it happens in many countries. But let me ask this. If the 10 yr old was a terrorist and happened to board your wife's plane or child's plane and blew it up but we let him pass through cause he was a child although his name is on a list. How would you feel? My bet is you would of wished we stopped him to question him.I have tried to read as much about history as I can for a long time now. This sounds similar to what was going on in Germany in 1934. Chipping away just a little piece at a time so it was barely noticeable.

Regards,

BJ

FreebieFan
01-24-13, 06:37
You are very right. And I feel sorry for the ones who have to deal with it. I am in the fortunate situation not to have to go there.haven't been to the Home of The Brave for 2 years now.

Last time was stopped by Customs who wanted to check my bag. Wanted to know if I intended to work in US.

I wrongly laughed at this question (customs officer thinking " surely everyone wants to live and work here" ). That bought about a lengthy search and why was I on vacation in US and why was I only carrying US$ 1, 000 (duh. 5 credit cards should buy me what I need officer ).

Anyways the fellow delayed me for over an hour. Then he asked if I knew Thailand. I said sure. He asked me if I knew BKK."sure again".

He said if I knew BKK could I tell him where the Plaza Athenee hotel was. I said sure, near to Conrad, near All Seasons place near to Sukh etc.

He said " ok you are free to proceed. Turns out he was a Thai American.

Kbkbal
01-24-13, 07:31
was in bangkok a few months back. straight to shark on soi cowboy on the first night. got there quite late and the pickings were slim. got greedy and made a rookie mistake in not paying attention to the cute little thing sitting next to me who was trying to make eye contact as i was waiting to see a few rotations on the stage before choosing. when the girl went up on stage, she was really quite a cutie but she almost immediately caught the eye of another punter and that was the end of that. i did try my luck in sending one of the sailor-girls to call her over, but i didn't need to speak thai to understand that her response was "why the fuck didn't he grab me when i was sitting next to him all this time trying to make contact and anyway i've hooked that polite japanese gentleman over there and am reeling him in slowly but surely". oh well, serves me right. had my eye on another girl as well and managed to snag her after she'd spent quite a bit of time flirting with two young blond chaps, who then walked out leaving her in the lurch. her name was mint. very pretty, with what looked like a banging body on stage. she seemed quite tipsy already and was eager to head out asap. i should have remembered my lesson from a few years back but didn't and stayed on for a couple more rounds of drinks with her, during which time she proceeded to neck two tequilas and go rapidly from tipsy to drunk. what to do, already bar-fined her, so took her back to the hotel anyway. what followed was certainly not how i wanted my bangkok mongering weekend to kick off. basically, she was off her face, gibbering incoherently about various things and insisting on showing me every single photo on her mobile phone (which included several punters - more fools they) , being sulky and pouty one minute, giggly and friendly the next, weepy after that etc etc. after a wholly unsatisfactory round of sex, she then spent about half an hour apologising for having been so crap in bed and refusing to accept my increasingly desperate "it's ok, good night, bye bye"s. finally, finally left and i gratefully went to sleep. the "banging" body didn't turn out to be quite so, either. oh well.

called ez massage the next day and ordered in for the evening. pinky had been getting rave reviews on their website so booked her, although she was my second choice behind yaya. changed my mind and called back to book yaya but she was off so stuck to the original reservation. it's been my experience with ez that although the pics on their site are heavily photo-shopped, the girl who turns up is usually the girl on site and the photos are usually a fair representation of what you can expect to knock on your door (with one exception. more on that later). pinky turned out to be absolutely lovely. friendly and cheerful as anything. i told her she looked lovely and she had a good laugh teasing me about what a bs artist i am and she knows i tried to throw her over for yaya etc etc (apparently she had been the person i'd been talking to on the phone, being one of the few people there with good english). all in good humour and with infectious laughter. i'm usually suspicious of "reviews" on the company websites. especially when their rave. but i have to say everything that was said about pinky was spot on: a real gfe provider with excellent skills. she likes to take her own pleasures as well (at one point i had pretty much my entire hand inside her as i licked her clit) and is very vocal about it too. i have a video i took while banging from behind (all the ez girls i've encountered so far have been pretty easygoing about taking actions photos and video) in which the audio alone gets me immediately hard. finished with a very satisfying cof and a lengthy chat and cuddle afterwards before she left me with a smile on my face and all unhappiness at the previous night's fiasco firmly expunged.

decided to go with ez the following night too and booked siri. big mistake. it was definitely the girl on the site who turned up, but what walked in was a pinch-faced, stringy old bag by comparison to the glowingly good looking lass on the website. that was bad enough, but her attitude made it worse. no warmth, no enthusiasm and a laundry-list of what she won't do. i called ez back, told them there was no way i was continuing with this booking and they were good enough to get her to leave immediately. they called me back very apologetically and asked if i wanted to book yaya, who was back on duty. the brain tried to say "no thanks" but was overruled by the penis and yaya turned up a little while later. i know looks are a very subjective thing, but yaya made my dick hard the moment i opened the door. she was exactly my type, much more so than the pics on the site. the pics on the site make her look much older than she looks in person and what stood in front of me in a pair of short shorts, heels and a nice top was the epitome of a sexy university student-type. for some reason (maybe i'm just weird) , the braces on her teeth made her even more attractive! turned out to be another nice girl, not as skilled as pinky but equally obliging and service-oriented. she was more cautious than pinky in re photography, but other than insisting her face wasn't clear on the "action" shots, let me take as many as i wanted. just like with pinky, i have a doggy-style video that gives me the instant horn. this time it's audio by default, though, as the light was too low for the video to show anything except a grainy image. pity though, as yaya's arse was a sight for sore eyes! cof not on the menu, but came all over her neat little bush instead, which made for a very aesthetically pleasing photo :)

was flying out the next afternoon and only had time for a morning delight, so decided to try the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) experience. not a very good-looking selection upon arrival but then i noticed one lady that caught my eye. she saw me looking and smiled a very pleasant smile so i picked her with a fair amount of optimism. all the ladies were of the ''mature'' variety, which i guess is a better bet for service in this kind of establishment than the younger girls. the lady i selected was definitely the best looking of the lot – a bit like a hottish milf. took me upstairs but there were a few booths occupied, so she took me up another flight of stairs where she said it would be quieter. sat me down and went off to clean her mouth, came back, knelt in front of me, looked up with a smile and said ''no rush, nah, we take our time'' and then proceeded to give me a wonderful blowie, lots of slurping, nice and slow, lots of eye contact and highly skilled use of the tongue. true to her word, it was not rushed and i was able to sit back and relax for quite a while before i eventually exploded in her mouth. cleaned up, had a bit of a chat and off i went, happy as larry and a newly minted [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-loaylist.

Kbkbal
01-24-13, 07:42
It's funny how everything is subjective. I'm Sri Lankan, dark complexion, and I get treated like a criminal by customs at Bangkok airport every single time. On the other hand, I've been to the States dozens of times and have experienced nothing but politeness at immigration nor ever been hassled at customs.


haven't been to the Home of The Brave for 2 years now.

Last time was stopped by Customs who wanted to check my bag. Wanted to know if I intended to work in US.

I wrongly laughed at this question (customs officer thinking " surely everyone wants to live and work here" ). That bought about a lengthy search and why was I on vacation in US and why was I only carrying US$ 1, 000 (duh. 5 credit cards should buy me what I need officer ).

Anyways the fellow delayed me for over an hour. Then he asked if I knew Thailand. I said sure. He asked me if I knew BKK."sure again".

He said if I knew BKK could I tell him where the Plaza Athenee hotel was. I said sure, near to Conrad, near All Seasons place near to Sukh etc.

He said " ok you are free to proceed. Turns out he was a Thai American.

Fun Filled
01-24-13, 13:29
It's not about only money any more. All Good looking free lancers girls are becoming choosey. They don't go out with anyone who is ready to pay. I visited BKK in 1st week of JAN and was surprised with this development. Two guys were rejected in front of my cause girl didn't like Them and once I was rejected cause that girls like Asian only (Korean & Japanese)

Day 1 (Friday Night)

Went to Q bar around 11 in night, being weekend it was crowded. Went to the bar to buy a drink there this beautiful girl was standing with a glass of wine in her hand. I just passed the smiled and she smiled back, I went to her and said hello and normal conversation started.

Her English was good infect better than mine. (I don't speak English at home so sorry for grammar mistake) I just asked her why she standing alone she replied she is not alone, She is waiting for her friend who has gone to washroom. Mean while we here chatting her friend also joined us. Those girls were fun to talk to and I bought round of drink for all of us.

Around 1 at night I asked that girls lets move to Levels. She said she also wanted to go there but before we leave she wanted to find a good guy for friend (I still don't under stand what she mean my GOOD guy). I just looked around and saw here friend talking to one guy (The guy was white and must he in early 40's and to me look quite decent). I told her her friend is already with some guy. And here come the reply. No she didn't like that guy. She just talking to him cause guy is standing next to him. But she don't won't go with him. I asked how do you know. She said she already told me that and she even told me which guy she likes and then she pointed toward two guys standing in corner.

I again asked what is wrong with that guy is he not rich? She said no he is rich ready to pay 4000 bhat but my friend simply don't like him, we go to club only on weekend so even we want to enjoy and what to go out with guys whom we like and blab la bla.

I don't want my night to be spoiled due to her friend so I just went to that guy and told him hay that girl over there in interested in you. He was bit surprised and started blushing. That guy was from Latin America.

Finally I introduce them to each other and left to Levels with my girl. Danced till 3 in morning had a good time in levels and then back to my hotel with my girl and she stayed with me till 3 in afternoon. I paid her 4000 Bhat and she was worth it.

Next day (Sat night) I went to mixx Disco there I liked this girls. Bought few drinks for her and her friend. Her friend came to me and asked me ' I like her friend' I said yes. She replied she is sorry but her friend won't go out with you cause she like Asian more (Japanese and Koreans)

I just said thanks to her and start looking for my next target.

Member #4698
01-24-13, 15:16
[1] straight to shark on soi cowboy on the first night.

[2] called ez massage the next day and ordered in for the evening. pinky.

[3] decided to go with ez the following night too and booked siri. big mistake. i called ez back, told them there was no way i was continuing with this booking and they were good enough to get her to leave immediately. they called me back very apologetically and asked if i wanted to book yaya, who was back on duty. the brain tried to say "no thanks" but was overruled by the penis and yaya turned up a little while later.

[4] the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) experience.i enjoyed reading your excellent trip report. it was well written and informative. you included the good, the bad, & the not so good. thanks.

Member #4698
01-24-13, 16:03
all i have to go on is my anecdotal experiences. going through us customs for me has been a breeze for the last 15 years. i present myself as a polite, well dressed, but tired citizen returning to my country after a 5 week asian excursion and a long grueling flight. i am asked where i have been and with a tired smile i say thailand, philippines, and macau (my usual haunts). that usually does it. once in a while i am asked if i am carrying any food products or if i have been on a farm during my trip. i casually respond with a no. once or twice i was asked what my occupation is. i tell them real estate investment. then they always say, welcome back and i say it is good to be home. that's it.

but things were not always this easy for me. my rough times with us customs were in my early years of travel back in the late '70s and early '80s. i don't know if it was because i was a long hair or because i was traveling to and from latin america all the time and fit their profile or customs was more rigorous back then, but in any case my suitcase was always searched. i hated the treatment i used to get returning to my own country. land of the free – yeah, right!

one time, returning from costa rica a bitcchh agent confirep001ed my nikon slr and zoom telephoto lens. i was nice and polite until she started to fill out the form. then i let her have it with everything i could think of like, 'i can buy and sell your whole family, you moron. how dare you confirep001e my camera! etc. etc. ' my tirade continued unabated for 4 or 5 minutes. the women was made of stone did not respond. she just continued to fill out her form. the people in line behind me were getting restless and i had to move on. this happened at mia. i had a 2 hour layover so i was wandering around the airport camera less and pissed off. i ran into a very attractive and young american airlines representative who asked me if there was anything i needed. i told her my story and she was very sympathetic and took down to the customs offices. i met the acting director of mia customs. the pretty american airlines representative did most of the talking. the camera was lying on his desk. he inspected it and saw it was not new and gave it back to me. that was it. he defended the idiot inspector, but acknowledged that in this case she had gone too far. to recap; i was very polite to the female agent until her pen went to paper and she started to confirep001e my camera. then i went ballistic on her like i have never done before or since.

another time and this is entirely my fault, i was returning from cartagena. i was a young long hair who clearly liked to indulge in women and illegal substances. i should have been more circumspect in packing my suitcase knowing in advance that customs was going to inspect the contents. but i was stupid and sloppy and had left several packs of rolling papers on top of my dirty laundry. the customs agent immediately spotted it and i was escorted to a private room for a thorough inspection and pat down although i was not strip searched. there was no contraband to be found and i was let go. the experience shook me up some and taught me an important lesson.

today, i don't fit the profile and i know how to present myself so i don't get hassled. knock on wood. but it is true that they have you at their mercy and can do anything they want – search wise. my favorite customs is the netherlands, but i see dutch customs flag certain individuals from time to time. so i don't think this is just an us customs issue. customs officials worldwide are woven from the same cloth and can detain / inspect anybody they want at any time. so present yourself well and be polite at all times. there should not be a problem.

Paul Kausch
01-24-13, 17:09
It's not about only money any more. All Good looking free lancers girls are becoming choosey. They don't go out with anyone who is ready to pay. I visited BKK in 1st week of JAN and was surprised with this development. Two guys were rejected in front of my cause girl didn't like Them and once I was rejected cause that girls like Asian only (Korean & Japanese)

Day 1 (Friday Night)

Went to Q bar around 11 in night, being weekend it was crowded. Went to the bar to buy a drink there this beautiful girl was standing with a glass of wine in her hand. I just passed the smiled and she smiled back, I went to her and said hello and normal conversation started.

Her English was good infect better than mine. (I don't speak English at home so sorry for grammar mistake) I just asked her why she standing alone she replied she is not alone, She is waiting for her friend who has gone to washroom. Mean while we here chatting her friend also joined us. Those girls were fun to talk to and I bought round of drink for all of us.

Around 1 at night I asked that girls lets move to Levels. She said she also wanted to go there but before we leave she wanted to find a good guy for friend (I still don't under stand what she mean my GOOD guy). I just looked around and saw here friend talking to one guy (The guy was white and must he in early 40's and to me look quite decent). I told her her friend is already with some guy. And here come the reply. No she didn't like that guy. She just talking to him cause guy is standing next to him. But she don't won't go with him. I asked how do you know. She said she already told me that and she even told me which guy she likes and then she pointed toward two guys standing in corner.

I again asked what is wrong with that guy is he not rich? She said no he is rich ready to pay 4000 bhat but my friend simply don't like him, we go to club only on weekend so even we want to enjoy and what to go out with guys whom we like and blab la bla.

I don't want my night to be spoiled due to her friend so I just went to that guy and told him hay that girl over there in interested in you. He was bit surprised and started blushing. That guy was from Latin America.

Finally I introduce them to each other and left to Levels with my girl. Danced till 3 in morning had a good time in levels and then back to my hotel with my girl and she stayed with me till 3 in afternoon. I paid her 4000 Bhat and she was worth it.

Next day (Sat night) I went to mixx Disco there I liked this girls. Bought few drinks for her and her friend. Her friend came to me and asked me ' I like her friend' I said yes. She replied she is sorry but her friend won't go out with you cause she like Asian more (Japanese and Koreans)

I just said thanks to her and start looking for my next target.That's why this activity is legal in Thailand. No one is forcing the lady to go with a guy she doesn't want to.

Wandere
01-24-13, 18:58
For past few weeks, was in touch with a Thai Teacher, who teaches at a school, let us call it, a school belonging to a Western country.

The chatting, e mails, Skype calls continued.

The idea of meeting popped up, today landed at Bangkok around 7 pm, was out of airport in alf an hour, got picked by up by the lady T.

What a lady, poise, pronunciation, looks, diction, I asked her if she has lived in the West, wow, by birth she is Thai, but holds an overseas passport.

Got me into a suite, connections.

We went out, bottle of Red wine, back to the hotel.

Bliss, never had this experience, it is amazing experience.

Tomorrow of to Hua Hin for three days,

Looking forward to this experience.

Pure ecstasy, lust, and she said refined lust.

Do not know how to say.

LOS!

Tony Hoeprano
01-24-13, 19:52
Next day (Sat night) I went to mixx Disco there I liked this girls. Bought few drinks for her and her friend. Her friend came to me and asked me ' I like her friend' I said yes. She replied she is sorry but her friend won't go out with you cause she like Asian more (Japanese and Koreans)

I just said thanks to her and start looking for my next target.Sounds like diabolical shenanigans to me when she claims to like J and K dudes more. Either she was blowing smoke or someone led her astray, last time I was at Mixx on Saturday there were mostly crackers, Arabs, Persians, and Africans.

Syzygies
01-24-13, 19:59
It's not about only money any more. All Good looking free lancers girls are becoming choosey. They don't go out with anyone who is ready to pay. I visited BKK in 1st week of JAN and was surprised with this development. Two guys were rejected in front of my cause girl didn't like Them and once I was rejected cause that girls like Asian only (Korean & Japanese)Nothing new. Not all free lancers are desperate. The good looking ones know they will get a customer sooner or later, and they can wait till it is the right who they want to have fun with, or are even prepared to go without altogether sometimes.

Probably my first experience with free lancers was in the Thermae 20 years ago (old location of Thermae). Two girls there were very pretty and together. They worked in some clothing shop in Silom but were trying to get extra money together so they could afford to take a few days off returning to Phitsanulok. Numerous guys would approach them with arrogant attitudes and get rejected. I liked them too. Both of them were very pretty, but I was having a hard time to choose which one. In the end I decided on the one who did not smoke, and she was willing. Then we had to wait for her friend to hook up with some guy, but she was not finding any guy was really taking her fancy. Eventually we left very late with her friend still not having found a guy.

I had a wonderful time with my girl till morning. Turned out she had big wide naturals which I did not know at first. Communication was difficult I had only just a little Thai and she liked to speak Thai with just English pronouns thrown in to make it more confusing. Sex was fab. She was very wild in bed. She had to leave eventually to go to normal job. Next night I went back to Thermae and same 2 girls showed again. Same story. I took the same girl and the other did not find any man she liked at all.

Eventually (after at least 2 times, maybe 3) the girl told me that they would be returning to Phitsanulok as had got enough money together. I asked for contact details, but she did not give full name, address, or phone number. Seems their P4P adventure was temporarily over and returning to their normal lives. Perhaps she had a BF back home.

My buddy with more experience says I was stupid. I should have taken both girls from the start. I wasn't too sure though that they would be into a threesome, as they were acting very fussy. I'll never know now, but perhaps I should have tried. Still have pics of both girls in very old photo album. They still look really good to me.

I have been knocked back by Thermae girls too. Reason unknown. She wasn't saying why. Money had not even been discussed. Just wasn't her type or too old, who knows?

Kbkbal
01-25-13, 00:51
Thank you!


I enjoyed reading your excellent trip report. It was well written and informative. You included the good, the bad, & the not so good. Thanks.

Luvpuss
01-25-13, 02:07
after my mp session and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s session on wednesday, i decided to take it easy for the night. my plan was to go to nana, have a couple of drinks, some food, and call it a day.

the first bar i go into is golden bar. right below nana hotel. the bar is owned by the hotel.

the waitess comes over and takes my order. kind of non descript really. no makeup, wearing a conservative dress, age 30.

she serves me and sits down and we start to talk. shit, i really start to like her. very good english, sweet. seemed conservative. does not smoke or drink much. claims to have been there only a few months.

i also start to notice she is very attractive. looks a lot like phadma from"top chef".

as we talk she tells me she has gone on several lt one week trips with customers, outside bangkok. i start thinking no dude is going to take a girl lt for one week unless she is pretty special.

so i take the plunge. the bf at this place is only 350b.

we spent the past 2 days together and had a great time. the sex was awesome. her body is slim and tight.

she was a great gf. we went to the movie, ate, walked around the malls, ate, fucked and slept. just a wonderful time.

Member #4698
01-25-13, 04:37
We spent the past 2 days together and had a great time. The sex was awesome. Her body is slim and tight.

She was a great GF. We went to the movie, ate, walked around the malls, ate, fucked and slept. Just a wonderful time.Careful Luvpuss, you are starting to come over to the light side. Some girls are too nice to throw away after one or two nights. ;)

Goatscrot
01-25-13, 04:45
Sounds like diabolical shenanigans to me when she claims to like J and K dudes more. Either she was blowing smoke or someone led her astray, last time I was at Mixx on Saturday there were mostly crackers, Arabs, Persians, and Africans.Urgh, that is not real nice mix of folks. No pun intended!

Goatscrot
01-25-13, 04:47
It's not about only money any more. All Good looking free lancers girls are becoming choosey. They don't go out with anyone who is ready to pay. I visited BKK in 1st week of JAN and was surprised with this development. Two guys were rejected in front of my cause girl didn't like Them and once I was rejected cause that girls like Asian only (Korean & Japanese)Yep, I find it quite different from when I moved here 13 years ago. There have always been choosey girls, as Syn has pointed out, but there are far more of them now.

Syzygies
01-25-13, 05:46
Yep, I find it quite different from when I moved here 13 years ago. There have always been choosey girls, as Syn has pointed out, but there are far more of them now.Maybe the younger newbie customer is preferred over the older hardened customer. 20 years back I was a younger newbie.

In recent years, when looking at Free-lancer places, I really struggle to find any girls that appeal. I think the standard of free-lancer looks is worse than many years ago. However I haven't invested a lot of time researching this.

One thing I like about certain venue bargirls is the ability to see them totally nude, before choosing. If the arse is not hot, I skip them. Size of tits is not so important for me as long as not ugly. Sometimes a girl looks very hot with clothes on and after they come off looks rather ordinary.

Recently at La Belle. 6pm there were several very pretty girls to choose from. This makes me lazy to search for good looking free lancers.

Dr BJ
01-25-13, 07:43
About 30 years ago I came to Bangkok, was staying at the Ambassador, and I believe that I was walking somewhere near Sukhumvit Soi 2 (perhaps) and happened on a Soapy with a Fish Bowl and had my first bath and massage (Thai style) by a nude Thai girl who spoke no English at all. It may have been called the "Golden Gate". If anyone knows exactly where the Golden Gate soapy massage was and / or when it closed, I would be interested. Perhaps I should be asking the matriarch Annie at "Annies" this question. Not sure if Aey is old enough to know anything about this one.I spoke to Annie today and she said she could remember this place. Apparently is closed down around six years ago.

Regards,

BJ

Goatscrot
01-25-13, 07:52
Maybe the younger newbie customer is preferred over the older hardened customer. 20 years back I was a younger newbie.

In recent years, when looking at Free-lancer places, I really struggle to find any girls that appeal. I think the standard of free-lancer looks is worse than many years ago. However I haven't invested a lot of time researching this.

One thing I like about certain venue bargirls is the ability to see them totally nude, before choosing. If the arse is not hot, I skip them. Size of tits is not so important for me as long as not ugly. Sometimes a girl looks very hot with clothes on and after they come off looks rather ordinary.

Recently at La Belle. 6pm there were several very pretty girls to choose from. This makes me lazy to search for good looking free lancers.Agreed. I just can't be bothered with the FL scene anymore. I stick to the oilies. Love the looks of soapy girls, but mainly find the performance lacking. BKK needs a place with stunners who provide a PSE. Could charge top dollar for it and most, including me, would be willing to pay.

Fun Filled
01-25-13, 08:36
Nothing new. Not all free lancers are desperate. The good looking ones know they will get a customer sooner or later, and they can wait till it is the right who they want to have fun with, or are even prepared to go without altogether sometimes.You and Goatscrot are more experience than me but that was my first time when I saw a guys being rejected by girls just because girls don't like them or don't find them attractive.

In my previous visits I have seen guys been rejected but the reason were different. Girls use to reject them cause they don't agree to price quoted by them or they are high headed or too drunk.

I think more and more regular girls (Girl with Mon to Fri job) come to club on weekend with open mind. If they fancy some 1 in the club they don't mind going out otherwise they love do drink, dance and have good time in club with their friends and go home.

Correct me if I am wrong but my observation is based on my night out to clubs like Q Bar, Nest, Bed and levels.

NicFrenchy
01-25-13, 09:28
BKK needs a place with stunners who provide a PSE. Could charge top dollar for it and most, including me, would be willing to pay.These girls exist, but it's a closed community and anyway, very few punters here could afford it.

We're talking 15 30k a night. Some people here can get laid 20 times for that amount.

Luvpuss
01-25-13, 09:32
Careful Luvpuss, you are starting to come over to the light side. Some girls are too nice to throw away after one or two nights. ;)I agree. It is just not me though. After a few days I want to fuck others. So I just move on.

But, I will see her again on another trip I hope.

We talked alot. Very interesting stories about many girls she knows who have 5 or 6 sponsors. Girls juggling apartments they stay in when their BF arrives, etc.

Crazy4Thai
01-25-13, 10:16
We spent the past 2 days together and had a great time. The sex was awesome. Her body is slim and tight.

She was a great GF. We went to the movie, ate, walked around the malls, ate, fucked and slept. Just a wonderful time.All that pussy is doing you good man! It's a kinder, gentler Luvpuss!

Keep the reports coming. Good job.

Goatscrot
01-25-13, 11:42
These girls exist, but it's a closed community and anyway, very few punters here could afford it.

We're talking 15 30k a night. Some people here can get laid 20 times for that amount.So what would 90 min cost? A little humor there. Personally I would rather have one wonderful session per month than a load of mediocre ones.

Paul Kausch
01-25-13, 14:44
These girls exist, but it's a closed community and anyway, very few punters here could afford it.

We're talking 15 30k a night. Some people here can get laid 20 times for that amount.You're right, but a little high in you're cost estimate. My very first report was about my experience with an escort agency I used last month. Bangkok Gold Escorts. The two girls I booked had pretty faces, very nice figures, spoke good English and gave me great sex. One provided A-level and was only too happy to oblige when I asked for it. I directed them towards a GFE, but both would have provided a PSE if I wanted that. Both do duos. The one who does A-level does DPs with the guy and the other girl using a strap-on. For a solo, the price starts at 6000B for 2 hours up to 12000B for 8 hours. It's like you say, you can readily find it, but it's expensive.

Paul Kausch
01-25-13, 15:01
So what would 90 min cost? A little humor there. Personally I would rather have one wonderful session per month than a load of mediocre ones.Also see my reply of a few minutes ago to NicFrenchy. Call Bangkok Gold Escorts. I've used them four times (2 girls 2 times). Both girls were very pretty with nice figures. Good English, great sex. One girl did A-level. Both do duos. Check the website for the choices in girls and services. By the way, the customer reviews are real. I know because two of the entries on the website were direct quotes from a thank you email I wrote. Goldie changed me initials and used a different country to protect my identity. I asked her about this and she claimed all the customer feedback came from real customer thank you emails. Two hours will cost 6000B; 8 hours costs 12000B. Tip is discretionary. Both girls were real pros and clearly took pride in leaving me happy and satisfied. The owner's name is Goldie. She's very helpful and promptly responds to emails. If you call, you'll get Will, her American husband. I've talked to him. Tell him what you're looking for and he'll be very helpful. I quite like Will, very articulate with a wry sense of humor.

Western787
01-25-13, 17:49
I think more and more regular girls (Girl with Mon to Fri job) come to club on weekend with open mind. If they fancy some 1 in the club they don't mind going out otherwise they love do drink, dance and have good time in club with their friends and go home.In New York City for example, typical of western culture, the line between (normal) party girls and working girls, is very sharply defined, thus typical mongers simply cannot access most of these women.

In Bangkok on the other hand, such young women while (many) wait and hope for their young, rich, and handsome Thai guys to show up on the white horse, or perhaps a steady sponsor, large numbers will dabble in the more generalized P4P world, many ambiguous as to how they precisely define themselves. Sure when they first begin, they work under the pretense of being nominally attracted to the guys, however with most that won't last very long, it will soon become a secondary factor relative to the money.

Goatscrot
01-25-13, 18:55
In New York City for example, typical of western culture, the line between (normal) party girls and working girls, is very sharply defined, thus typical mongers simply cannot access most of these women.

In Bangkok on the other hand, such young women while (many) wait and hope for their young, rich, and handsome Thai guys to show up on the white horse, or perhaps a steady sponsor, large numbers will dabble in the more generalized P4P world, many ambiguous as to how they precisely define themselves. Sure when they first begin, they work under the pretense of being nominally attracted to the guys, however with most that won't last very long, it will soon become a secondary factor relative to the money.Very well stated Western. I would say that the line here is very blurry.

Maunger
01-25-13, 21:18
after my mp session and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s session on wednesday, i decided to take it easy for the night. my plan was to go to nana, have a couple of drinks, some food, and call it a day.

the first bar i go into is golden bar. right below nana hotel. the bar is owned by the hotel.

the waitess comes over and takes my order. kind of non descript really. no makeup, wearing a conservative dress, age 30.

she serves me and sits down and we start to talk. shit, i really start to like her. very good english, sweet. seemed conservative. does not smoke or drink much. claims to have been there only a few months.

i also start to notice she is very attractive. looks a lot like phadma from"top chef".

as we talk she tells me she has gone on several lt one week trips with customers, outside bangkok. i start thinking no dude is going to take a girl lt for one week unless she is pretty special.

so i take the plunge. the bf at this place is only 350b.

we spent the past 2 days together and had a great time. the sex was awesome. her body is slim and tight.

she was a great gf. we went to the movie, ate, walked around the malls, ate, fucked and slept. just a wonderful time.interesting. i was in bkk earlier this week for three days. the night i arrived i happened into the golden, which is the nana hotel's bar. i met what i thought was simply a waitress, tall, lean, pretty good-looking, great english.

turns out she was a bargirl, a 40-year-old bargirl. really tall, nicely proportioned, and, as i found out later, a stunner with her clothes off. name is mimi. never had a child.

i prefer a mature girl, although i dabbled in the young ones too. i saw mimi for a while every evening. once we went to the rainbow and got a young girl for a threesome. after mimi, i usually went back and roped another.

the golden seems to have some nice bargirls and their prices for drinks are a little lower. didn't much like the bargirls elsewhere. you're right. 350bt barfine.

UShobbyist
01-25-13, 22:54
Agreed. I just can't be bothered with the FL scene anymore. I stick to the oilies. Love the looks of soapy girls, but mainly find the performance lacking. BKK needs a place with stunners who provide a PSE. Could charge top dollar for it and most, including me, would be willing to pay.For the time being, which massage parlor in Bangkok is the best for oilies? Which one is the best for soapy?

Luvpuss
01-26-13, 03:19
For the time being, which massage parlor in Bangkok is the best for oilies? Which one is the best for soapy?For what? You want a massage?

Do you also want to know which Mc'Donalds in BKK has the best burgers?

NicFrenchy
01-26-13, 04:49
For the time being, which massage parlor in Bangkok is the best for oilies? Which one is the best for soapy?Well, I'll tell you my Favourites: (it is very subjective because it isn't really about the place but rather the girl)

OILY: THONGLOR 2.

SOAPY: NATAREE (but I'm not a specialist of Soapies)

Cooper966
01-26-13, 06:01
Also see my reply of a few minutes ago to NicFrenchy. Call Bangkok Gold Escorts. I've used them four times (2 girls 2 times). Both girls were very pretty with nice figures. Good English, great sex. One girl did A-level. Both do duos. Check the website for the choices in girls and services. By the way, the customer reviews are real. I know because two of the entries on the website were direct quotes from a thank you email I wrote. Goldie changed me initials and used a different country to protect my identity. I asked her about this and she claimed all the customer feedback came from real customer thank you emails. Two hours will cost 6000B; 8 hours costs 12000B. Tip is discretionary. Both girls were real pros and clearly took pride in leaving me happy and satisfied. The owner's name is Goldie. She's very helpful and promptly responds to emails. If you call, you'll get Will, her American husband. I've talked to him. Tell him what you're looking for and he'll be very helpful. I quite like Will, very articulate with a wry sense of humor.Hey Paul,

Can you supply the name of the 2 girls you tried at Bangkok Gold Escorts? Which one was the A+ girl?

Making a booking soon and would appreciate any recommendations from fellow punters.

Thanks

Syzygies
01-26-13, 06:51
For the time being, which massage parlor in Bangkok is the best for oilies? Which one is the best for soapy?I tend to gree with both Nic and LP in a way. There is no particular Oily that I like. I only like certain girls and just accept which ever venue they are at. I don't have a venue with more than 1 favourite girl.

For soapies its pretty much the same. Just a few favourite girls at Annies, La Belle, Amsterdam, Utopia. However I would recommend Copa Cabana as a very well run place. My favourite girls are not at that venue however, nor at Nataree. For many good lookers I think La Belle and La Defense may be top places. The problem at La Defense is that they get taken out of the lineup very quick and maybe pre-booked. Nataree is a good place with a large array of girls available. Not many of the young ones seem to know much though (lacking experience and skills). The older ones don't appeal.

With soapies, I am mostly pre-booking one of my favourite girls that I am very comfortable with, and occasionally trying to find a new stunner as a prospective favourite.

UShobbyist
01-26-13, 17:14
I tend to gree with both Nic and LP in a way. There is no particular Oily that I like. I only like certain girls and just accept which ever venue they are at. I don't have a venue with more than 1 favourite girl.

For soapies its pretty much the same. Just a few favourite girls at Annies, La Belle, Amsterdam, Utopia. However I would recommend Copa Cabana as a very well run place. My favourite girls are not at that venue however, nor at Nataree. For many good lookers I think La Belle and La Defense may be top places. The problem at La Defense is that they get taken out of the lineup very quick and maybe pre-booked. Nataree is a good place with a large array of girls available. Not many of the young ones seem to know much though (lacking experience and skills). The older ones don't appeal.

With soapies, I am mostly pre-booking one of my favourite girls that I am very comfortable with, and occasionally trying to find a new stunner as a prospective favourite.Thank you for your reply. Because I am new in the massage parlor scene, I will try the well run place first. I just try to avoid those places where charge customers for two hours but only give cusomers 90 minutes' service on regular bases.

Goatscrot
01-26-13, 20:36
The line isn't that blurry. Most guys can figgure out what kind of girl one is dealing with. For some reasson I just don't attract hiso types just looking to have fun. LOL.It's very blurry in Thailand. I would be you the percentage of women who are willing to have sex for money or enter into a relationship with a "sugar daddy" in this country far exceeds the percentage in Western countries. The value system here is far different. Most new guys seem to be blind when it comes to this.

Scorchin1470
01-27-13, 01:13
I tend to gree with both Nic and LP in a way. There is no particular Oily that I like. I only like certain girls and just accept which ever venue they are at. I don't have a venue with more than 1 favourite girl.

For soapies its pretty much the same. Just a few favourite girls at Annies, La Belle, Amsterdam, Utopia. However I would recommend Copa Cabana as a very well run place. My favourite girls are not at that venue however, nor at Nataree. For many good lookers I think La Belle and La Defense may be top places. The problem at La Defense is that they get taken out of the lineup very quick and maybe pre-booked. Nataree is a good place with a large array of girls available. Not many of the young ones seem to know much though (lacking experience and skills). The older ones don't appeal.

With soapies, I am mostly pre-booking one of my favourite girls that I am very comfortable with, and occasionally trying to find a new stunner as a prospective favourite.Now that is a useful post instead of all the usual one liners.

Nixonbd
01-27-13, 01:40
This is my favored itinerary. I spend the majority of my time in Pattaya, where like the original poster I enjoy the vibe. But on my way home I spend at least a few nights in Bangkok. The scene isn't *really* that spread out. You've got Soi Cowboy and you've got Nana Plaza, and the Skytrain connecting them. Scope out the Bangkok hotel thread and pick any of the recommended places. You'll end up with easy access to the naughty boy haunts. As for the quality of the girls, that's a debate never to be settled. I personally like the go go scene and to my eye the top girls in Bangkok at places like Rainbow 4 in Nana or Baccara on Soi Cowboy are very hot indeed. Finally, when my holiday is finally over it's nice to be closer to the airport.

BunkyGreat response. Thanks.

Syzygies
01-27-13, 06:17
Now that is a useful post instead of all the usual one liners.I also dislike waste of time one liners, just like this one. Some of us try to provide information, but cannot resist opinions which are clearly a lot less useful. Smart arse one liners seem a complete waste of time.

Sunlover2
01-27-13, 16:05
I just try to avoid those places where charge customers for two hours but only give cusomers 90 minutes' service on regular bases.I agree with this criteria. Snow white / Mango / Tulip are all fine choices. Tell the lady you want a "special massage." IMO avoid Annies if you want the full time you pay for.

SunLover

Oidar
01-27-13, 20:36
The line isn't that blurry. Most guys can figgure out what kind of girl one is dealing with. For some reasson I just don't attract hiso types just looking to have fun. LOL.
I read some where there are basically three types of adult personalties. (A) Work driven, (B) material driven, and (C) pleasure driven people. Hiso girls come from parents who were probably either a or b, meaning they are also either a or b. If you are a true (C) personailty like myself you will clash with all groups in the end.

Most women and children equate love and affection with gifts and material shit. Men do not think like this because no one ever gives us shit.

Mr Enternational
01-27-13, 21:16
I read some where there are basically three types of adult personalties. (A) Work driven, (B) material driven, and (C) pleasure driven people. Hiso girls come from parents who were probably either a or be, meaning they are also either a or be. If you are a true (C) personailty like myself you will clash with all groups in the end.

Most women and children equate love and affection with gifts and material shit. Men do not think like this because no one ever gives us shit.Sounds okay for a capitalistic society, but surely these personalities do not hold in a communistic or socialistic society or any other where it is virtually impossible to move up in economic standing.

Nobody ever gives us shit because we don't have a pussy!

FreebieFan
01-28-13, 02:19
Most women and children equate love and affection with gifts and material shit. Men do not think like this because no one ever gives us shit.Those are the smartest words to be found on ISG today. Ever need verification. Have a look at the song and dance thats made for Mothers Day. And compare that with Fathers Day. LOL.

MastiGuru
01-28-13, 03:04
Well, I'll tell you my Favourites: (it is very subjective because it isn't really about the place but rather the girl)

OILY: THONGLOR 2.

SOAPY: NATAREE (but I'm not a specialist of Soapies) Last night tried Nataree for a soapy from fish bowl. I hate sidelines since they are only good for fuck and do nothing much on soapy or massage.

Tried No 66 (Nut) great fun although very restrictive initially but if you are the first one in the day she does enjoy as much as you do.

NicFrenchy
01-28-13, 06:20
Last night tried Nataree for a soapy from fish bowl. I hate sidelines since they are only good for fuck and do nothing much on soapy or massage.We couldn't be more different. I much prefer the Sideliners as I go to Nataree to have sex only and not the massage or soapy. Sidelines are a Hit or Miss I know, but usually I have a Great Experience with them. Talking a bit in Thai to get them to relax and being playful / joking really works, they really open up after that. They are all about Sanook.

Marioz988
01-28-13, 17:55
First timer in Thailand. Not yet!

I have noticed that almost nobody talks and report his encounters with the escort sites available.

I thought of few reasons :

1- the cost is higher maybe.

2- it is forbidden to name sites on this panel. Although some body was talking about escortgold.

3- it is not as interesting as to go around and find yourself what you want and there are plenty as I found out from the members.

Something else draw my attention that, assuming that the pictures on the escort sites are almost true with some Photoshopping, there is

A big difference in beauty from the ones on the street and the night clubs and this clear also from the pictures taken and uploaded.

On this forum.

Anybody noticed that or I am totally mistaken.

Thanks for any reply.

Luvpuss
01-29-13, 04:56
already hit these this morning.

at 815 am 4 girls at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. i love that because i am a morning person for fucking.

it seems now the girls just get in the booth and take off their clothes and ask you if you want fs. 1200 in the booth.

bbbj and cfs. nothing special but did the job.

when i left i could see the feet and legs moving at the lower part of the curtains of 2 dudes in other booths obviously fucking the girls.

i went to starbuck's and waked around a bit. was walking down nana and sw a jlo ass sw down and alley waving at me.

1000 b for full gfe. photo attached.

anyway, i think i need a nap and some lotion on my cock because it is a somewhat sore.

Tony Hoeprano
01-29-13, 08:01
Nice photos and report Luvpuss, the only thing I'd ask is can we get more coverage of your hairy belly next time?

Luvpuss
01-29-13, 08:14
Nice photos and report Luvpuss, the only thing I'd ask is can we get more coverage of your hairy belly next time?HAHA. OK. Last time I was here I actually got it waxed. But then broke out in a bad rash for 3 weeks. But most of these Thai girls claim to like it. Probably BS. They say Thai man not have. Whatever.

Wolvenvacht
01-29-13, 08:29
HAHA. OK. Last time I was here I actually got it waxed. But then broke out in a bad rash for 3 weeks. But most of these Thai girls claim to like it. Probably BS. They say Thai man not have. Whatever.My Thai GF never ceases to be impressed by how hairy I am on my body, arms and legs. Calls me "big bear". She thinks we are hairy because we live in a cold country. But I do shave my tackle. That is another source of amazement for her. And last November when she came to Europe, she had shaved her pussy. Sweet sweet darling!

FruitNinja
01-29-13, 09:15
Anyway, I think I need a nap and some lotion on my cock because it is a somewhat sore.A massage and some lotion is always good for a cock.

Jimmy Red Cab
01-29-13, 11:04
First timer in Thailand. Not yet!

I have noticed that almost nobody talks and report his encounters with the escort sites available.

I thought of few reasons :

1- the cost is higher maybe.

2- it is forbidden to name sites on this panel. Although some body was talking about escortgold.

3- it is not as interesting as to go around and find yourself what you want and there are plenty as I found out from the members.

Something else draw my attention that, assuming that the pictures on the escort sites are almost true with some Photoshopping, there is

A big difference in beauty from the ones on the street and the night clubs and this clear also from the pictures taken and uploaded.

On this forum.

Anybody noticed that or I am totally mistaken.

Thanks for any reply.Bangkok is overflowing with prostitutes, you will not get any better quality through an Escort agency, you will however pay a premium price.

DRRonin
01-29-13, 11:37
First timer in Thailand. Not yet!

I have noticed that almost nobody talks and report his encounters with the escort sites available.

I thought of few reasons :

1- the cost is higher maybe.

2- it is forbidden to name sites on this panel. Although some body was talking about escortgold.

3- it is not as interesting as to go around and find yourself what you want and there are plenty as I found out from the members.

Something else draw my attention that, assuming that the pictures on the escort sites are almost true with some Photoshopping, there is

A big difference in beauty from the ones on the street and the night clubs and this clear also from the pictures taken and uploaded.

On this forum.

Anybody noticed that or I am totally mistaken.

Thanks for any reply.Don't necessarily go by the photos on this site as an indicator of the quality of Thai women who are available in the go-go bars. I am not sure the reason why but I have my theories. But the vast majority of picts here are of very average to not at all good looking girls. The freelancers are admittedly not great like they used to be but there are still a fair amount of good looking girls in go-go bars which will cost you about 50% what an escort does (the girls get 50% of that fee BTW). Of course go to any mall in Bangkok and you will see more beautiful girls in ten minutes than you will see in a week in the go-go bars. Thailand has the most beautiful women in the world but sadly very few of them are in the business any more.

Luvpuss
01-29-13, 11:49
First timer in Thailand. Not yet!

I have noticed that almost nobody talks and report his encounters with the escort sites available.

I thought of few reasons :

1- the cost is higher maybe.

2- it is forbidden to name sites on this panel. Although some body was talking about escortgold.

3- it is not as interesting as to go around and find yourself what you want and there are plenty as I found out from the members.

Something else draw my attention that, assuming that the pictures on the escort sites are almost true with some Photoshopping, there is

A big difference in beauty from the ones on the street and the night clubs and this clear also from the pictures taken and uploaded.

On this forum.

Anybody noticed that or I am totally mistaken.

Thanks for any reply.?

There is an entire section in this Thailand forum on escort agencies. Did you look?

I know it can seem overwhelming for a first timer. But like others have said, come here first for a day or 2 and figure things out. You can always call one of those agencies later. But I will bet you decide against unless your are truly lame.

The girls on those agency sites are not sitting at home watching TV waiting for your call. They are working in bars, FL, or maybe even the street. Many of them are on several sites. They make 3 to 4 times as much with your call.

Moscoffee
01-29-13, 20:14
Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've been to Thailand and PI several times, so I have some experience. Not 100% green. Still, had a bit of a situation today which kind of made me rethink some of my assumptions regarding bar girls. Particularly in BKK. Would greatly appreciate some feedback from more experienced BMs.

Barfined a gorgeous girl at one of the Nana gogos. She was by far the most energetic and affectionate at the bar. And certainly not shy, to put it mildly. Another customer was buying her a drink after drink, but she saw me checking her out and sent a message through another girl that the customer she is with never barfines and that if I wanted to barfine her, she was very willing to go. I did just that (she was HOT) without really interviewing her . Probably spent only 3 mins or so talking to her in the bar, most of which involved an impromptu lap dance- she never even asked for a ladies drink.

Once we left the bar she started acting way more distant. I suggested we go to one of the stalls on Sukhumvit and get some food and drinks. She didn't really react in any way. However. 5 mins later when we were passing one of the stalls she said she was hungry and asked if we could eat. I of course said OK. She ordered, never even asking me what I want. After a few mins, catching my WTF look the waiter approached her, said something in Thai and she asked me if I was hungry. At least someone is paying attention.

While we were eating, one guy walking by started a conversation with her. Apparently they've been together about a year ago. This I have absolutely no problem with. But then, during the 15 mins or so we were eating, at least 2 more guys walking buy made eye contact, one of which knew her name as well. This is all during a 15 minute period around Soi 11. Not actually in Nana, so it became very clear that I barfined a town bicycle.

Earlier I asked her how long she worked at the bar. She said 2 years. Later, after that dinner I asked approximately how many barfines she had per month and the answer was around 13-15. So I've asked how many total. And she answered "no idea". I've asked 300-400 or so? Her response: yeah, probably, she doesn't know.

At this point, I was already ready to cut her lose, but the breaking point was when she asked to stop by a 7/11 on the way to pickup some cigarettes. After telling me just 20 mins earlier that she doesn't smoke and after I made it clear that I can't stand smoking and staying in a non-smoking room. I paid for the dinner and told her to go home or back to the bar, wherever she prefers. She had the nerve to ask for cab fare, at which point I reminded her that I paid her barfine and fed her already.

All of this with a girl that looked about 21-22 (she later told me she was 25) and I am assuming that the number of barfines she had has been understated.

So here's my question. This is the first time I've ran into such a hardened bargirl that seemed completely normal at the bar. I've also been under impression that being a bar girl was a short-term gig for most and that the rest become so obviously hardened that it's hard to miss it in the bar. Was that impression wrong? Just how many guys does a typical bargirl normally go with during her career? And do all go-gos have quotas that the girls have to meet? Or is it just a Nana Plaza phenomenon?

Not really concerned about the sunk cost. It was only 800 baht (600 for barfine. 200 for food). Just kind of had my mind blown regarding just how "used' some of these bargirls really are. Is this a Bangkok-only or Go-Go only phenomenon. Or is it the same way everywhere and some girls are just better at lying about it.

Western787
01-29-13, 21:00
Don't necessarily go by the photos on this site as an indicator of the quality of Thai women who are available in the go-go bars. I am not sure the reason why but I have my theories. But the vast majority of picts here are of very average to not at all good looking girls. .Random (usually bad) angle, all lighting, clothes off and shoes off photos of women, often sprawled out on a bed, with shots often originating from somwhere over their toes, its fairly hard for any woman to look glamorous.

Compare this to oil message and probably a lot of escort escort photos where completely fakery is fairly routine. Even the most glamorous women in the world, while they're generally not usually photo shopped per se to the extent its fakery, they are generally photographed at very select angles, favorable lighting conditions, with special airbrushing, and (given circulation pressures) with magazine covers reaching very close to the outright fakery level.

Even Miss Universe finalists I have to wonder what many would look like with the same photo conditions that one typically sees on this site. Yes, still very hot, but not quite the same.

Wolvenvacht
01-29-13, 21:02
Bangkok is overflowing with prostitutesWhat a silly thing to say. A tiny minority of the women are in the sex-trade only. They are easy to find, cheap to hire and fun to be with, but Bangkok is not "overflowing" with them.

You really have to get away from Nana and Soi Cowboy for a while and see the other sights of Bangkok. :)

Western787
01-29-13, 22:40
What a silly thing to say. A tiny minority of the women are in the sex-trade only.True, only a small percentage of women are actually prostitutes.

However, relative to other major cities in the world such as London which I believe Jimmy Red Cab isfamiliar with, and New York City which I sometimes refer to, I think one might accurately say Bangkok is "overflowing" with prostitutes. Just take the amount of part time, occasional, or dabbling in the business "hobby" (skipping the "W" word)"girls" alone. That's a rather sizable group right there.

Wolvenvacht
01-29-13, 22:52
True, only a small percentage of women are actually prostitutes.

However, relative to other major cities in the world such as London which I believe Jimmy Red Cab isfamiliar with, and New York City which I sometimes refer to, I think one might accurately say Bangkok is "overflowing" with prostitutes. Just take the amount of part time, occasional, or dabbling in the business "hobby" (skipping the "W" word)"girls" alone. That's a rather sizable group right there.Everything is relative.

Given that prostitution in New York is at least a class B Misdemeanor, it is no surprise that New York is not visibly "overflowing" with prostitutes.

And although in England prostitution per se is not illegal, it is an offence for a person persistently to loiter or solicit in a street or public place for the purpose of prostitution: in other words, street prostitution is prohibited. London has its share of prostitutes , but they do not "overflow" the streets.

Rjsss212
01-30-13, 00:09
'Relative to major cities' and 'class B misdemeanors' Are you two just bored? JRC's answer was in response to an escort agency question. Clear as day. They're both talking 'about prostitution – not everyman's neighborhood in Bangkok.

JRC meant BKK to differentiate it with Patts, and others AND everyone knows lower Sewer-vit is 'overflowing'.

Conversely, the DR absolutely IS overflowing with prostitutes.


prostitution in New York is at least a class B Misdemeanor.
However, relative to other major cities.

Koolkid
01-30-13, 05:56
i don't suppose you got a contact number for the sw in the pic you posted?

would love a go on that, do you know if she works at a bar?

thanks for posting.


already hit these this morning.

at 815 am 4 girls at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. i love that because i am a morning person for fucking.

it seems now the girls just get in the booth and take off their clothes and ask you if you want fs. 1200 in the booth.

bbbj and cfs. nothing special but did the job.

when i left i could see the feet and legs moving at the lower part of the curtains of 2 dudes in other booths obviously fucking the girls.

i went to starbuck's and waked around a bit. was walking down nana and sw a jlo ass sw down and alley waving at me.

1000 b for full gfe. photo attached.

anyway, i think i need a nap and some lotion on my cock because it is a somewhat sore.

Luvpuss
01-30-13, 07:24
I don't suppose you got a contact number for the SW in the pic you posted?

Would love a go on that, Do you know if she works at a bar?

Thanks for posting.I hit her again this morning.

Better the second time.

Today at climax she says," I want to eat your coconut juice". I then fed her breakfast.

She said she walks Nana usually in the mornings a few days a week as she claims to have another job managing some type of shop.

Sorry, no number.

Wolvenvacht
01-30-13, 08:10
Are you two just bored?Of course I am bored. I am not in Thailand and can now only dream of the good times I had there.

AussieDoug
01-30-13, 09:56
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Barfined a gorgeous girl at one of the Nana gogos. She was by far the most energetic and affectionate at the bar. And certainly not shy, to put it mildly. Another customer was buying her a drink after drink, but she saw me checking her out and sent a message through another girl that the customer she is with never barfines and that if I wanted to barfine her, she was very willing to go. I did just that (she was HOT) without really interviewing her. Probably spent only 3 mins or so talking to her in the bar, most of which involved an impromptu lap dance- she never even asked for a ladies drink.

At this point, I was already ready to cut her lose, but the breaking point was when she asked to stop by a 7/11 on the way to pickup some cigarettes. After telling me just 20 mins earlier that she doesn't smoke and after I made it clear that I can't stand smoking and staying in a non-smoking room. I paid for the dinner and told her to go home or back to the bar, wherever she prefers. She had the nerve to ask for cab fare, at which point I reminded her that I paid her barfine and fed her already.

So here's my question. This is the first time I've ran into such a hardened bargirl that seemed completely normal at the bar. I've also been under impression that being a bar girl was a short-term gig for most and that the rest become so obviously hardened that it's hard to miss it in the bar. Was that impression wrong? Just how many guys does a typical bargirl normally go with during her career? And do all go-gos have quotas that the girls have to meet? Or is it just a Nana Plaza phenomenon?

Not really concerned about the sunk cost. It was only 800 baht (600 for barfine. 200 for food). Just kind of had my mind blown regarding just how "used' some of these bargirls really are. Is this a Bangkok-only or Go-Go only phenomenon. Or is it the same way everywhere and some girls are just better at lying about it.You may have been scammed, it's not unheard of for some regular punter to come into a bar and agree to meet a girl outside after some schmuck has paid her barfine and got the shits with her attitude. Got it myself once, she wanted to go to some party, but I made her perform first.

Contrary to many opinions most go go girls only do one cutomer as a takeaway per night, otherwise you have the stunner in the bar getting all the business and the other frumps getting nothing. Exception to this is if you take the short time hotel on premises option, then it is how ever many in a night. Also, most of the girls are as lazy as buggery, and once a night is too hard for them, down in Soi33, half of the girls never get a punter every night, some only a few a week.

Dr BJ
01-30-13, 11:15
Just how many guys does a typical bargirl normally go with during her career?You seem to be fixated on how many customers a working girl has had sex with over the period of time she has been involved in the industry. It's a simple fact of life in the antics of a P4P girl and the truth is the more the better from her point of view. A bar in Soi Cowboy I am very familiar with for example in the peak of high season the more popular girls can have up to 6 or 7 customers in the ST Hotel in a single night most nights (mainly Japanese). Even in low season the bar is still busy so lets say an average of 2 every night they work (probably 10 months of the year) that comes out at 560 multiplied by the number of years she worked there. Now the numbers vary wildly depending on the bar, this is only one example. Some beer bar girls or FL's may be as busy as go-go girls. The point is why does it matter?

Regards,

BJ

Luvpuss
01-30-13, 14:20
Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've been to Thailand and PI several times, so I have some experience. Not 100% green. Still, had a bit of a situation today which kind of made me rethink some of my assumptions regarding bar girls. Particularly in BKK. Would greatly appreciate some feedback from more experienced BMs.

Barfined a gorgeous girl at one of the Nana gogos. She was by far the most energetic and affectionate at the bar. And certainly not shy, to put it mildly. Another customer was buying her a drink after drink, but she saw me checking her out and sent a message through another girl that the customer she is with never barfines and that if I wanted to barfine her, she was very willing to go. I did just that (she was HOT) without really interviewing her. Probably spent only 3 mins or so talking to her in the bar, most of which involved an impromptu lap dance- she never even asked for a ladies drink.

Once we left the bar she started acting way more distant. I suggested we go to one of the stalls on Sukhumvit and get some food and drinks. She didn't really react in any way. However. 5 mins later when we were passing one of the stalls she said she was hungry and asked if we could eat. I of course said OK. She ordered, never even asking me what I want. After a few mins, catching my WTF look the waiter approached her, said something in Thai and she asked me if I was hungry. At least someone is paying attention.

While we were eating, one guy walking by started a conversation with her. Apparently they've been together about a year ago. This I have absolutely no problem with. But then, during the 15 mins or so we were eating, at least 2 more guys walking buy made eye contact, one of which knew her name as well. This is all during a 15 minute period around Soi 11. Not actually in Nana, so it became very clear that I barfined a town bicycle.

Earlier I asked her how long she worked at the bar. She said 2 years. Later, after that dinner I asked approximately how many barfines she had per month and the answer was around 13-15. So I've asked how many total. And she answered "no idea". I've asked 300-400 or so? Her response: yeah, probably, she doesn't know.

At this point, I was already ready to cut her lose, but the breaking point was when she asked to stop by a 7/11 on the way to pickup some cigarettes. After telling me just 20 mins earlier that she doesn't smoke and after I made it clear that I can't stand smoking and staying in a non-smoking room. I paid for the dinner and told her to go home or back to the bar, wherever she prefers. She had the nerve to ask for cab fare, at which point I reminded her that I paid her barfine and fed her already.

All of this with a girl that looked about 21-22 (she later told me she was 25) and I am assuming that the number of barfines she had has been understated.

So here's my question. This is the first time I've ran into such a hardened bargirl that seemed completely normal at the bar. I've also been under impression that being a bar girl was a short-term gig for most and that the rest become so obviously hardened that it's hard to miss it in the bar. Was that impression wrong? Just how many guys does a typical bargirl normally go with during her career? And do all go-gos have quotas that the girls have to meet? Or is it just a Nana Plaza phenomenon?

Not really concerned about the sunk cost. It was only 800 baht (600 for barfine. 200 for food). Just kind of had my mind blown regarding just how "used' some of these bargirls really are. Is this a Bangkok-only or Go-Go only phenomenon. Or is it the same way everywhere and some g You are asking rookie questions and making rookie mistakes. irls are just better at lying about it.Look in the morror. You have been to PI and Thailand before? Really?You BF her after 3 minutes? You made a huge mistake by not buying her a 150 B drink and spending 20 minutes asking the right questions.

Luvpuss
01-30-13, 14:23
What a silly thing to say. A tiny minority of the women are in the sex-trade only. They are easy to find, cheap to hire and fun to be with, but Bangkok is not "overflowing" with them.

You really have to get away from Nana and Soi Cowboy for a while and see the other sights of Bangkok. .I agree. There is more than enough for us. But 99% + of these girls are not p4p.

FoxesHunter
01-30-13, 14:42
Thanks for your suggestions.

Mr Enternational
01-30-13, 18:06
Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've been to Thailand and PI several times, so I have some experience. Not 100% green. Still, had a bit of a situation today which kind of made me rethink some of my assumptions regarding bar girls. Particularly in BKK. Would greatly appreciate some feedback from more experienced BMs.

Barfined a gorgeous girl at one of the Nana gogos.

All of this with a girl that looked about 21-22 (she later told me she was 25) and I am assuming that the number of barfines she had has been understated.

So here's my question. This is the first time I've ran into such a hardened bargirl that seemed completely normal at the bar. I've also been under impression that being a bar girl was a short-term gig for most and that the rest become so obviously hardened that it's hard to miss it in the bar. Was that impression wrong? Just how many guys does a typical bargirl normally go with during her career? And do all go-gos have quotas that the girls have to meet? Or is it just a Nana Plaza phenomenon?

Not really concerned about the sunk cost. It was only 800 baht (600 for barfine. 200 for food). Just kind of had my mind blown regarding just how "used' some of these bargirls really are. Is this a Bangkok-only or Go-Go only phenomenon. Or is it the same way everywhere and some girls are just better at lying about it.Dude. What the fuck are you talking about? You say that you have been to Thailand and PI several times. Then you should know that bar girls are hookers and the job of a hooker is to fuck men for money. If they aren't fucking men for money, they don't have work, and they can't eat or pay rent. You act like they are just supposed to sit around for all these years and not be able to take care of themselves until YOU arrive on the scene. She was not the same age as she "looked?" Many people do not look the age they are. So what is wrong with that? It is not like she lied to you (apart from smoking according to your report). And do you think they mark on their wall at home each time they get a barfine? Yeah the same way you do each time you pass a certain stop if you are a bus driver. I couldn't tell you how many women I have been with and it is not my job to sleep with people for money. If it was then I definitely would not be keeping count considering how routine and mundane it would be. It might work out better for you to go try to pick up chicks in a convent if you are so concerned with how many people they have been with.

Mr Enternational
01-30-13, 18:10
Thanks for your suggestions.Stop trolling Foxes. For the last how many years in too many threads you have asked questions to the tune of 527 times, but have never done a field report. Haven't you finished your book yet?

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01-30-13, 18:15
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Luvpuss
01-31-13, 08:07
This is my last day here. I have totaled 30 fucks now and 6 BBBJ's in 14 days. I am exhausted and probably done for this trip.

I walked Nana today for about 45 mins. I saw this walking out of 7-11. I aproached her and asked."where you go".

She says,"with you".

Fuck me. Fuck me! If it ain't the best piece of ass I have had. Full GFE with cum in pussy. Great BBBJ and licked my ass. 1500, but well worth it. I pounded her for 50 minutes. Great curvy body with huge fucking natural tits.

Good luck for you dudes that say Costa Rica is better.

HAHA, it makes me laugh.

This chick rocked my world. What a great way to end my fuck fest. I love Bangkok

Moscoffee
01-31-13, 11:22
Yeah, completely see your point.although I think it would be safe to assume that the number of customers per day / week varies greatly. Some are not hot enough to get 6-7 day, some are too lazy to go out 6-7 times per day, some are not yet hardened enough to have the conveyor belt mentality. It all depends on the girl.

As far as why it matters, just a personal preference. I prefer girls who've had enough experience to know what they are doing, yet not so much that every guy on Sukhumvit already took a ride. Again, just a matter of personal preference. This is why I also choose to avoid BJ places and such.


You seem to be fixated on how many customers a working girl has had sex with over the period of time she has been involved in the industry. It's a simple fact of life in the antics of a P4P girl and the truth is the more the better from her point of view. A bar in Soi Cowboy I am very familiar with for example in the peak of high season the more popular girls can have up to 6 or 7 customers in the ST Hotel in a single night most nights (mainly Japanese). Even in low season the bar is still busy so lets say an average of 2 every night they work (probably 10 months of the year) that comes out at 560 multiplied by the number of years she worked there. Now the numbers vary wildly depending on the bar, this is only one example. Some beer bar girls or FL's may be as busy as go-go girls. The point is why does it matter?

Regards,

BJ

Moscoffee
01-31-13, 11:33
Actually, funnily enough I offered her a drink. She said (through another girl that I bought a drink for, but decided not to take) that she couldn't accept it right then because the other customer (the one who according to both her and mamasan never barfines anyone) was already buying her drinks. Perfectly valid policy IMO.

Anyway, agree that it was a mistake to BF without an interview. Cheap mistake, but still a bit of an annoyance. Just posted this because it opened my eyes to just how many customers a go-go girl might have during her career. I understood that BJ and Oily girls are basically town bikes / buses. And something I choose to avoid, but for some reason made a different assumption regarding go-go girls since they make money on drinks as well. That assumption has now been corrected.


Look in the morror. You have been to PI and Thailand before? Really?You BF her after 3 minutes? You made a huge mistake by not buying her a 150 B drink and spending 20 minutes asking the right questions.

Naked Gunz
01-31-13, 15:11
She says,"with you".Three simple words to enter the gate of pussy heaven. Hot freakin body, and GFE too! I hate you. LOL

Hotman 666
01-31-13, 16:12
Not, I have not finished to ask because you are liar.There is a bridge out there in 'Never Never Land' that is missing it's troll!
Now 530 USELESS posts and counting!

Hotman.

Tony Hoeprano
01-31-13, 18:42
I'm of the opinion most girls don't get 1 customer a night. LOL. I'm of the opinion the stunners do get the majority of the barfines. Therefore I'm of the opinion the frumps get nothing. God did not make all girls same same!

One caveat. I don't know what happens after 11 pm. Do guys barfine the frumpy girls or don't they?A few weeks back I went to Rainbow4 late at night and there were a few fat heffers dancing on the stage. How come they're allowed to work there? It's nice that management is an equal opportunity employer, but they should dissuade these girls from thinking they can make any money at this place. They might feel bad and get depressed that nobody wants them (except for Arabs and Pakis?) In fact, they could probably make more working at Swenson's Ice Cream Parlor LOL.


This is my last day here. I have totaled 30 fucks now and 6 BBBJ's in 14 days. I am exhausted and probably done for this trip.

I walked Nana today for about 45 mins. I saw this walking out of 7-11. I aproached her and asked."where you go".

She says,"with you".

Fuck me. Fuck me! If it ain't the best piece of ass I have had. Full GFE with cum in pussy. Great BBBJ and licked my ass. 1500, but well worth it. I pounded her for 50 minutes. Great curvy body with huge fucking natural tits.

Good luck for you dudes that say Costa Rica is better.

HAHA, it makes me laugh.

This chick rocked my world. What a great way to end my fuck fest. I love BangkokWhy only 6 BBBJ? You just love the puss too much? I've never seen an old guy with such a huge sexual appetite LOL If there were a fantasy football league but for sex tourists, I'd draft ya #1!

Csun213
02-01-13, 05:53
I am arriving at Bangkok international airport at around 3:30pm on Oct 21th which is a Monday. I was told that since I don't have too much luggage and it is during rush hour, the best way would be to take the Airport link train to Phaya Thai, then transfer to the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit line and take that to Nana.

I have never done this before so would someone tell me where to find the Airport link train which should be in the basement of the airport. Is there a clear marked way to find the Airport link train? Also where do I pay for the ticket, plus how much is the fare, do I need exact change? Sorry for so many questions but never done this before and I am hoping the someone who have done this would give me direction. Thanks

BionicMan
02-01-13, 07:26
I am arriving at Bangkok international airport at around 3:30pm on Oct 21th which is a ThanksWhy don't you simply jump on a taxi and appr 300 bahts away and 40' you will be in Nana. Less of a hassle.

Difference might be a couple of beers but think how much we "waste" buying nonsense things dining a trip.

Tiger 888
02-01-13, 07:40
...so would someone tell me where to find the Airport link train which should be in the basement of the airport. Is there a clear marked way to find the Airport link train? Also where do I pay for the ticket, plus how much is the fare, do I need exact change? Sorry for so many questions but never done this before and I am hoping the someone who have done this would give me direction. ThanksAssuming you arrive at BKK, if you manage to find the airport, you will easily find the train station or the taxi stand. Impossible to get lost there.

Wolvenvacht
02-01-13, 07:46
I am arriving at Bangkok international airport at around 3:30pm on Oct 21th which is a Monday. I was told that since I don't have too much luggage and it is during rush hour, the best way would be to take the Airport link train to Phaya Thai, then transfer to the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit line and take that to Nana.

I have never done this before so would someone tell me where to find the Airport link train which should be in the basement of the airport. Is there a clear marked way to find the Airport link train? Also where do I pay for the ticket, plus how much is the fare, do I need exact change? Sorry for so many questions but never done this before and I am hoping the someone who have done this would give me direction. ThanksThe airport link rain is by far the best way to go to downtown Bangkok from the Airport. From the arrivals hall go down to the basement level. It is well indicated. In case of doubt always go down. You cannot miss it.

Tickets are sold from vending machines or from a ticket counter. No exact change is necessary at the ticket counter. Take the ticket counter on the LEFT side. This side sells the tickets for the "express" trains. Fast, clean, comfortable and cheap.

A taxi during rush hour is simply no option in Bangkok. It will take you 30 minutes to do the last 500 m to your destination (if you are lucky).

Luvpuss
02-01-13, 08:49
My flight was canceled yesterday. Geez, I am so upset I have to spend another day here. HAHA.

I decided to keep it simple today. Went to Lollipop's. They open at 10am. I have had a few guys ask me where it is. It is on Soi 10.
Not many girls out front but chose the best one. Nice girl but just average really.

I have reported before that I have never been to this place without Bareback FS in the booth. I have had 5 different girls now.

I really haven't seen that many reports. Oh well.

Today was no exception. Full GFE for 40 minutes. I ate her pussy and she was very excited. I pulled out at the money shot in doggie, but thought "fuck it". Popped it back in at climax. She just squirmed her ass, turned to me and smiled, and took the full load like a champ.

1100 for FS.

I let her a nice tip.

Hint: When you go upstairs, ask her to take you to the room / booth to the back. It is a private larger area and booth, with a door that closes and locks. Plenty of room to spread out your loins.

DRRonin
02-01-13, 09:56
My flight was canceled yesterday. Geez, I am so upset I have to spend another day here. HAHA.

I decided to keep it simple today. Went to Lollipop's. They open at 10am. I have had a few guys ask me where it is. It is on Soi 10.

Not many girls out front but chose the best one. Nice girl but just average really.

I have reported before that I have never been to this place without Bareback FS in the booth. I have had 5 different girls now.

I really haven't seen that many reports. Oh well.

Today was no exception. Full GFE for 40 minutes. I ate her pussy and she was very excited. I pulled out at the money shot in doggie, but thought "fuck it". Popped it back in at climax. She just squirmed her ass, turned to me and smiled, and took the full load like a champ.

1100 for FS.

I let her a nice tip.

Hint: When you go upstairs, ask her to take you to the room / booth to the back. It is a private larger area and booth, with a door that closes and locks. Plenty of room to spread out your loins.Ya I'll be rushing right over there any minute now. Nothing more exciting and enticing than the thought of going with girls who are having unsafe sex multiple times a day. Just want to lick my chops at that idea. And I bet they are beauties too.

ChelseaBill
02-01-13, 12:07
The airport link rain is by far the best way to go to downtown Bangkok from the Airport. From the arrivals hall go down to the basement level. It is well indicated. In case of doubt always go down. You cannot miss it.

Tickets are sold from vending machines or from a ticket counter. No exact change is necessary at the ticket counter. Take the ticket counter on the LEFT side. This side sells the tickets for the "express" trains. Fast, clean, comfortable and cheap.

A taxi during rush hour is simply no option in Bangkok. It will take you 30 minutes to do the last 500 m to your destination (if you are lucky).A sensible post, Wolvenvacht! I thought I was the only one using the SARL!

Bill

Mr Enternational
02-01-13, 12:50
I am arriving at Bangkok international airport at around 3:30pm on Oct 21th which is a Monday. I was told that since I don't have too much luggage and it is during rush hour, the best way would be to take the Airport link train to Phaya Thai, then transfer to the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit line and take that to Nana.

I have never done this before so would someone tell me where to find the Airport link train which should be in the basement of the airport. Is there a clear marked way to find the Airport link train? Also where do I pay for the ticket, plus how much is the fare, do I need exact change? Sorry for so many questions but never done this before and I am hoping the someone who have done this would give me direction. ThanksYou sure do plan well ahead. In the Pattaya thread you said you were coming with friends. If that is the case then it would definitely be smarter to take a taxi. Especially since you have never been there before. Keep in mind that you would need to get a minivan or van because the natural gas tanks are in the trunk and 3 people with luggage more than likely would not fit in one of the regular car taxis. By the time you add up the train fares you could have paid for a taxi.

Bartchamdo
02-01-13, 12:57
I keep returning to Som's Haven. I've been with three different ladies Som recommended, and all of them have been good experiences. I'm curious why Som herself is well known. Her own website refers to her as "famous." (It says: "Of course the famous Som is there most afternoons and evenings to ensure you have an enjoyable visit with the hostesses. She has retained her sweet disposition and wonderful sense of humor although she is not active anymore.")

Yet when I asked her where she used to work she politely evaded the question. I imagine the answer is that she was the BJ expert at some bar or go go. Not sure why she wouldn't want to name the place.

Where did she work previously?

Luvpuss
02-01-13, 13:25
Ya I'll be rushing right over there any minute now. Nothing more exciting and enticing than the thought of going with girls who are having unsafe sex multiple times a day. Just want to lick my chops at that idea. And I bet they are beauties too.You have not made a trip report in 10 years. You been doing anything but jacking off?

Syzygies
02-01-13, 13:41
You have not made a trip report in 10 years. You been doing anything but jacking off?He was mild compared the vitriole you sometimes dish out.

Run Mann
02-01-13, 15:43
where did she work previously?som's haven is named after the famous som who used to work at and was very popular at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). however, as the website reads, she's is only the manager at som's and is not giving head anymore unless you're willing to dish out $.

Csun213
02-01-13, 16:16
Thanks guys for all the help here. I am coming to Bangkok with some friends however since we are all coming from different part of the USA, we will be meeting in our hotel in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya together.

Since I am arriving in the middle of rush hour, a friend who have been to Bangkok before said that it is better to use the new Airport train than a taxi however since it was new therefore he had not taken it.

I only have one bag therefore should not have a problem with the train. Thanks to the information posted here, I don't think I will have problem finding it. Even through my trip is not until Oct, I do like to plan ahead so I don't get into trouble. Hopefully this should be the last question I have. Thanks again for all the help and information.

Wolvenvacht
02-01-13, 20:45
A sensible post, Wolvenvacht! I thought I was the only one using the SARL!

BillI am a big fan of public transport. I try to use it wherever I go, much to the dismay of my colleagues who always jump in taxis when travelling on expense accounts.

Mmmm, interesting thought: I like public transport and I like "public" women. I wonder if there is any connection? ;)

Traveler1234
02-01-13, 21:17
He was mild compared the vitriole you sometimes dish out.Use that 'ignore' button, works like a charm.

NicFrenchy
02-01-13, 23:41
Ya I'll be rushing right over there any minute now. Nothing more exciting and enticing than the thought of going with girls who are having unsafe sex multiple times a day. Just want to lick my chops at that idea. And I bet they are beauties too.Don't forget most Thai girls are completely clueless about STDs and still think that condoms are only there to avoid having babies.

Luvpuss being an old fart, they probably think he shoots Blanks, that's why they don't think twice.

Luvpuss
02-01-13, 23:52
He was mild compared the vitriole you sometimes dish out.Yes, just push ignore. The funny thing is how this site can get to people. I mean, some of you seem to get emotionally upset by some guy on an anonymous site where we talk about paying girls to fuck?

The insecurity of some amazes me. For some, this site seems to be their life. What a shame. But, just push ignore, and move on Mr. Snuggles.

Dreams
02-02-13, 04:08
Use that 'ignore' button, works like a charm.Not really, beause you still get the posts when they are quoted by others.

PinkPearl
02-02-13, 07:10
Don't forget most Thai girls are completely clueless about STDs and still think that condoms are only there to avoid having babies.

Luvpuss being an old fart, they probably think he shoots Blanks, that's why they don't think twice.Considering that a high percentage of their customers are "old farts", this appears to support Luvpuss' claim that most Thai P4P girls give up BBFS to clients interested in not using a plastic baggie.

I seem to recall his figure was 90 percent.

Where would the Thai sex workers most likely to insist on condom use be found?

NEP and Soi Cowboy would be my guess, IOW the gogos.

One has to wonder if sex isn't safer in the Philippines. At least there the BFs of the prostitutes who are banging them BB are usually circumcised. Non Muslim Thai males tend not to be.

BTW, the official PI HIV rates are much lower than LOS, both in general and in the P4P scenes.

Luvpuss
02-02-13, 09:01
Don't forget most Thai girls are completely clueless about STDs and still think that condoms are only there to avoid having babies.

Luvpuss being an old fart, they probably think he shoots Blanks, that's why they don't think twice.Frenchie boy. No, you are clueless. So they know nothing about STD's yet they are well informed about a vasectomy medical procedure?

I think you have mommy issues really. You recently posted about these girls," fuck them, who cares what they think, they are just working girls". Right?

Now you are really saying how stupid and uneducated they are and they know nothing about STD's? Do you not respect these girls or women?

Any girl that is working in BKK is well informed about STD's. I bet many more have no idea about what a vasectomy is.

But some counseling about your negativity towards women may be in order. You have good insurance?

By the way, I do have a vasectomy and all these girls are willing and receptive to my cum.

Goatscrot
02-02-13, 10:47
Any girl that is working in BKK is well informed about STD's. I bet many more have no idea about what a vasectomy is.I would be willing to bet you are wrong on this. I have seen lots of WGs with wart, and when I point them all of them think it is no problem and the same as a mole. Most know HIV, but that is the extent of it.

Fun Filled
02-02-13, 10:53
I am arriving at Bangkok international airport at around 3:30pm on Oct 21th which is a Monday. I was told that since I don't have too much luggage and it is during rush hour, the best way would be to take the Airport link train to Phaya Thai, then transfer to the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit line and take that to Nana.

I have never done this before so would someone tell me where to find the Airport link train which should be in the basement of the airport. Is there a clear marked way to find the Airport link train? Also where do I pay for the ticket, plus how much is the fare, do I need exact change? Sorry for so many questions but never done this before and I am hoping the someone who have done this would give me direction. ThanksIn rush hour airport link is best provided you are traveling light and not in a group. All you have to do is go two level down from the arrival area (After coming out of customs). Once you reach basement you can see the ticket counter and don't worry about the change the guy at ticket counter will take care of it. Now here is something important. There are two type of train. Fast (express) and slow (regular) the express train take around 20 min and slow train take around 35min. So before taking the ticket of express train kindly ask the time cause express train travel at the interval of 30 min. If there is waiting of more then 15 min then it is advisable to take the regular train to paya thai and the ticket counter of the regular train is at the back side of express train ticket counter.

The fair till Phaya thai for express train is 90 bhat and regular train is 45 bhat and you have to spend another 25 bhat for traveling from Phaya thai to Nana.

NicFrenchy
02-02-13, 11:08
Frenchie boy. No, you are clueless. So they know nothing about STD's yet they are well informed about a vasectomy medical procedure?That's not really what I meant (re the vasectomy) , they are clueless about that too. I had so many girls tell me "old man cannot make baby" that I came to think they actually do believe it, hence my post about them letting you cum inside their pussies.


You recently posted about these girls," fuck them, who cares what they think, they are just working girls". Right?

Now you are really saying how stupid and uneducated they are and they know nothing about STD's? Do you not respect these girls or women?Has nothing to do with respect, it's a FACT that they are very poorly informed about STDs.

And I am not mixed up like many here, I do use these girls for what they are, prostitutes. I don't treat them like girlfriends and I certainly don't want to have anything to do with them outside of their work.

It amuses me when I see some farangs wining and dining these girls, taking them shopping and all, that; s not my style, I guess I am more Asian-thinking in that regard.
Any girl that is working in BKK is well informed about STD's.Spoken like a true tourist.


But some counseling about your negativity towards women may be in order.Why? Because I don't want to fall in love with a prostitute? Or treat her like she's my girlfriend? Well, she isn't. I treat her very well when we are together in the room and I tip if she gave me above average service. I do not expect her to love me or tell me that I am handsome or that I have a big dick, I pay the girls to give me 2 hours of good sex (or whatever floats my boat at that time) nothing more.

Girlfriends and wives are to be loved, prostitutes are to be fucked and forgotten. Isn't that simple enough?

Goatscrot
02-02-13, 15:23
That's not really what I meant (re the vasectomy) , they are clueless about that too. I had so many girls tell me "old man cannot make baby" that I came to think they actually do believe it, hence my post about them letting you cum inside their pussies.

Has nothing to do with respect, it's a FACT that they are very poorly informed about STDs.

And I am not mixed up like many here, I do use these girls for what they are, prostitutes. I don't treat them like girlfriends and I certainly don't want to have anything to do with them outside of their work.

It amuses me when I see some farangs wining and dining these girls, taking them shopping and all, that; s not my style, I guess I am more Asian-thinking in that regard. Spoken like a true tourist.

Why? Because I don't want to fall in love with a prostitute? Or treat her like she's my girlfriend? Well, she isn't. I treat her very well when we are together in the room and I tip if she gave me above average service. I do not expect her to love me or tell me that I am handsome or that I have a big dick, I pay the girls to give me 2 hours of good sex (or whatever floats my boat at that time) nothing more.

Girlfriends and wives are to be loved, prostitutes are to be fucked and forgotten. Isn't that simple enough?Nic, Could not agree more with everything you have said. Spoken like a true resident. I too want nothing at all to do with prostitutes outside of their place of work and am amazed that guys come to Thailand to "date" prostitutes. I pay and I do expect good service, as you said,"whatever floats my boat at that time." Guess that is why I am so dismayed at the drop off in service at many of the oilies these days. I remember when Saeng used to tell you when you went into Tulip,"All girls do everything." And for the most part that was true. Now, we are seeing girls at Snow that refuse DFK. Why? Part of it is customers accepting substandard service, and yes, this is a service industry. Seems many have forgotten that.

Love your last statement. When I leave an establishment, I never thing,"Wow, I would like to be with her every day." Might give her a thought in a month or two, but that is only about another 90 min roll in the hay. After I have "finished" for the second time, I can't get out of there fast enough.

What do these guys talk about with these girls who have a 6th grade education? Would you marry a girl back home who did not finish high school? Would you even consider dating her? Doubt it. Why would you compromise your standards here?

Member #4698
02-02-13, 16:33
Girlfriends and wives are to be loved, prostitutes are to be fucked and forgotten. Isn't that simple enough?

I understand what you are saying, Nic, but it is not quite that black and white for me. On the one hand, I agree girlfriends and wives are to be loved, but I found "love" to be a very rare commodity. I thought I was in 'love' a few times in my life and almost got married twice, but the relationships always had holes from the very beginning and the 'love' if that's what you want to call it, did not last (18 months). Looking back, I am not at all sure I was ever "in love." Maybe it was me, maybe I am not capable of love, but I speculate that very few married couples are actually "in love." I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Human relationships are very complex.

As to prostitutes, Asian prostitutes in particular, I do not forget the great ones, the ones I really liked and who showed me a great time. I really appreciate their service and their personalities. I have found that having a good working relationship with a few of my favorite sexual providers is sometimes more satisfying than the plain vanilla wham bam, thank you mam sessions you seem to be talking about, although I like those too. And in the long run a continuing, on going relationship with a working girl is a lot less depleting than a relationship with a real 'girlfriend. ' So I tend to repeat with the professional girls I like best, although I am always hunting for new girls. I guess I like it both ways.

I view these perennial relationships I have with a few working girls in BKK as something in between having a friendly on the job relationship with a favorite waitress at the local breakfast café and having a real 'girlfriend. ' Except for the sexual intimacy part, the relationship is closer to the former. I know these girls are not my 'girlfriends,' that neither one of us really knows squat about the other, and that I do not love them, but I really like them and enjoy their sexual service and company for short periods of time on a repeat basis. For lack of a better term, they are my Go Go girlfriends as opposed to a normal 'girlfriend. ' I expect a lot less from them (the pros), but I usually get more and when I want them to leave, they go with no guilt, no emotional ties, and no financial burdens. That's why I am so fond of BKK and Asian working girls. I love them even though I am probably not capable of "love". The GFE is real. It is not a myth. But then, it is not for every punter. Do what makes you happy.

SexPerimenter
02-02-13, 19:21
I went to Dr. BJ's a couple times on my last trip to Bangkok and although they women sitting outside we're only reasonably attractive, every time I went there I found one to my liking, both did a fine job, one I liked so much, I came back to see her again later that day.

Mr Enternational
02-02-13, 22:01
I would be willing to bet you are wrong on this. I have seen lots of WGs with wart, and when I point them all of them think it is no problem and the same as a mole. Most know HIV, but that is the extent of it.I have heard many girls in Asia mention HIV or having a baby, to the extent that I also truly believe they think those are the only 2 physiologically unwanted things that can come from sex.

Master Monger
02-02-13, 22:27
Where is this Dr. BJ's is it a blowjob bar, and where are the other blowjob bars is Bangkok and what are the prices like?

Any help or offer of assistance would be greatly appreciated!

My Thai number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

Monger on,

MM

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Luvpuss
02-02-13, 22:31
OK, this is a big example of laziness. I just googled Dr. BJ and BJ bars in Bangkok. It took me less time to get the info, then it did for you to write your ridiculous question.

Run Mann
02-02-13, 23:44
OK, this is a big example of laziness. I just googled Dr. BJ and BJ bars in Bangkok. It took me less time to get the info, then it did for you to write your ridiculous question.Yeah, got to wonder how the monger got promoted to the rank of master. Even Foxeshunter and Csun would not ask those type of questions, would they?

Tir Alb
02-03-13, 00:21
Hi guys,

I am coming for a business trip for one week to Bangkok and would highly appreciate if you could provide some tips.

1. GF Hotels. What does girl friendly hotel means in Bangkok. Does it mean a girl can just come to my room at anytime be herself, or I can come with her to my room at any time. Most probably I will be staying at Amari Watergate, and I have read it is GF. But probably some of my business partners will be staying in the same hotel, so discretion is very important to me.

2. Bar girls. Is the hotel above a good place to pick up a bar girl?

3. Picking up normal girls. What clubs / bars / discos / etc would you recommend as a good place to pick up normal girls.

4. Escort girls. Do you know of a good escort service / girl you would recommend.

Thanks for the answers guy.

P. S I have searched on internet and read hear, but would like to know for your direct experiences, especially on first 2 points.

Csun213
02-03-13, 00:43
In rush hour airport link is best provided you are traveling light and not in a group. All you have to do is go two level down from the arrival area (After coming out of customs). Once you reach basement you can see the ticket counter and don't worry about the change the guy at ticket counter will take care of it. Now here is something important. There are two type of train. Fast (express) and slow (regular) the express train take around 20 min and slow train take around 35min. So before taking the ticket of express train kindly ask the time cause express train travel at the interval of 30 min. If there is waiting of more then 15 min then it is advisable to take the regular train to paya thai and the ticket counter of the regular train is at the back side of express train ticket counter.

The fair till Phaya thai for express train is 90 bhat and regular train is 45 bhat and you have to spend another 25 bhat for traveling from Phaya thai to Nana.Thank you for the details. One question, does both the express and the regular train stop at Phaya thai since that is where I need to catch the BTS to go to Nana?

NicFrenchy
02-03-13, 03:02
As to prostitutes, Asian prostitutes in particular, I do not forget the great ones, the ones I really liked and who showed me a great time. I really appreciate their service and their personalities. I have found that having a good working relationship with a few of my favorite sexual providers is sometimes more satisfying than the plain vanilla wham bam, thank you mam sessions you seem to be talking about, although I like those too. And in the long run a continuing, on going relationship with a working girl is a lot less depleting than a relationship with a real 'girlfriend. ' So I tend to repeat with the professional girls I like best, although I am always hunting for new girls. I guess I like it both ways.Yes, We agree on this, I also treat the ladies very gently and sometimes have sex as I would to a girlfriend but only during the 2 hours session. When the 2 hours session ends, so does the Fantasy and I am back to my life. I have a few regulars I visit but never ask for their numbers or contacts.

If their standard drop, I go seek new girls. Simple, and has always worked well for me. I don't really share my life with these girls and they know little about me. I don't care if they have a kid, brother in the hospital or whatever, everyone has a story and I am sure they did not dream of doing this job but they do it because they have to. I am not a savior I am just a customer for a limited time.

Rjsss212
02-03-13, 03:38
For the newbies out there read this over and over till its ingrained caus it's gospel verse. Enthrall in it while you're there then drop it like it's hot.

(if I knew how I would nominate these 2 as 'of distinction')


Yes, We agree on this, I also treat the ladies very gently and sometimes have sex as I would to a girlfriend but only during the 2 hours session. When the 2 hours session ends, so does the Fantasy and I am back to my life. I have a few regulars I visit but never ask for their numbers or contacts.

If their standard drop, I go seek new girls. Simple, and has always worked well for me. I don't really share my life with these girls and they know little about me. I don't care if they have a kid, brother in the hospital or whatever, everyone has a story and I am sure they did not dream of doing this job but they do it because they have to. I am not a savior I am just a customer for a limited time.
Why? Because I don't want to fall in love with a prostitute? Or treat her like she's my girlfriend? Well, she isn't. I treat her very well when we are together in the room and I tip if she gave me above average service. I do not expect her to love me or tell me that I am handsome or that I have a big dick, I pay the girls to give me 2 hours of good sex (or whatever floats my boat at that time) nothing more.

Girlfriends and wives are to be loved, prostitutes are to be fucked and forgotten. Isn't that simple enough?

Nuru Guru
02-03-13, 05:51
The shops of Dr BJ's are in sukhumvit soi 7/1. Everybody know it. Also uncle google!

Nobody Special
02-03-13, 06:21
A snap I took in Bangkok.

How hungry do you have to be to eat here?

Jp Slicky
02-03-13, 08:04
Yes you have to change from BTS to the airport express there

DRRonin
02-03-13, 08:27
You have not made a trip report in 10 years. You been doing anything but jacking off?Ya a bit of this and a bit of that but amazingly I have not posted picts of my penis on this site to prove such. No doubt that is disappointing to you because you clearly think it is so exciting seeing another guy's dick on these pages. Good for you. You just keep posting picts of your penis for all of your many fans. I am sure it makes their day. And also feel free to pass any STD's to the women in your life. I mean they asked for it right? And the chances are I won't be coming into contact with them or the guys they give them to and the girls they then pass them on to and so on infinitum. Because I just keep jacking off. With a guy like you in town that probably makes a lot of sense.

Jgm005
02-03-13, 10:03
Let me spell it out for you 'GOOGLE'.

Master Monger
02-03-13, 13:05
What do you think this site is for? [Deleted by Admin] You should have some respect for senior members who don't have to pay "like myself" because we laid the groundwork to make this site possible. If I use "Google" then what is the point of this site! You should feel happy to help me!

True Mongering comes from sharing information!

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Fun Filled
02-03-13, 13:26
Thank you for the details. One question, does both the express and the regular train stop at Phaya thai since that is where I need to catch the BTS to go to Nana?Yes Both the train will stop at Phaya Thai. At Phaya thai you have to change the platform to take a train to Nana.

Tiger 888
02-03-13, 14:11
What do you think this site is for? Not for filling the pages with your retarded babble. 5 years ago Jackson would have deleted 95% of your posts. Now he is rich and doesn't really care. You should have some respect for senior members who don't have to pay "like myself" because we laid the groundwork to make this site possible. If I use "Google" then what is the point of this site! You should feel happy to help me!

True Mongering comes from sharing information! Master MongerDear Master of all walks, name calling doesn't lead to anywhere. If you are really all that senior, it shouldn't have slipped your attention that Jackson frowns upon posting your mobile number. Would he care anymore (as you say he doesn't) he probably would have deleted your entire post, probably he still will.
If you don't want to google, why not send a PM to Dr BJ. I am sure he would answer.

AussieDoug
02-03-13, 14:20
Thank you for the details. One question, does both the express and the regular train stop at Phaya thai since that is where I need to catch the BTS to go to Nana?The regular train goes to Phaya Thai, the airport express does not, it stops short and you would need to change trains, so the regular city line is the way to go. When you get off at Phaya Thai there is a lift down one floor and then another lift down another floor, not the same lift, and then a longer walk (about 100yds) to Phaya Thai station.

Tony Hoeprano
02-03-13, 16:42
I'll be nice mr Master Monger. You're best bet is to avoid these places unless you prefer ugly girls touching your bits and pieces. I just don't get the allure of these places, but whatever floats yer boat man!

Pita123
02-03-13, 17:26
A snap I took in Bangkok.

How hungry do you have to be to eat here?Nice non-profit restaurant for tourists. I say that because the food is blander than it really should be. The founder has done amazing work with the promotion of safer sex in Thailand since the 70s. His work had a direct impact on the reduction of HIV infection rates. I saw him speak last year and he's done a TED Talk.

Wolvenvacht
02-03-13, 18:09
The regular train goes to Phaya Thai, the airport express does not, it stops short and you would need to change trains, so the regular city line is the way to go. When you get off at Phaya Thai there is a lift down one floor and then another lift down another floor, not the same lift, and then a longer walk (about 100yds) to Phaya Thai station.Strange. The last time I took the Airport Express train it stopped right at Phaya Thay station.

http://bangkokairporttrain.com/time-table-route.html

Maybe you took the wrong express. There is also one who only goes to Makassan station.

Wolvenvacht
02-03-13, 18:32
A snap I took in Bangkok.

How hungry do you have to be to eat here?Cabbages and Condoms is one of the better restaurants I have been to. You will find them in most of the cities.

When asking for the bill ("Check bin") they will give you a condom with your change. Last time I was there, they even gave me two condoms. My reputation must have preceded me. ;)

NicFrenchy
02-03-13, 18:56
Nice non-profit restaurant for tourists. I say that because the food is blander than it really should be. The founder has done amazing work with the promotion of safer sex in Thailand since the 70s. His work had a direct impact on the reduction of HIV infection rates. I saw him speak last year and he's done a TED Talk.Correct, they also have a resort in Pattaya. I eat there once in a while (forced) as my colleagues like it because you can smoke.

Food's tasteless and aimed at clueless tourists, then to top it all, they give you FREE small size condoms that could only fit Toshiro from Japan. Avoid.

Luvpuss
02-03-13, 20:09
Correct, they also have a resort in Pattaya. I eat there once in a while (forced) as my colleagues like it because you can smoke.

Food's tasteless and aimed at clueless tourists, then to top it all, they give you FREE small size condoms that could only fit Toshiro from Japan. Avoid.They could tell by looking at you that was the right size for you.

Crocodilexp
02-03-13, 20:17
The regular train goes to Phaya Thai, the airport express does notThis info is out of date by about a year. There are *two* express trains from the airport, one going to Makkasan (inconvenient connection to MRT which goes to Sukhumwit / Asok) , and another express going directly to Phaya Thai (connection to BTS). There's also the regular train going to Phaya Thai and making all the stops.

SirWilliam4
02-03-13, 20:26
A snap I took in Bangkok.

How hungry do you have to be to eat here?I think you'll be surprised at how good the food is. And how socially minded the operators are.

SW

BaldBalls
02-03-13, 20:40
Well I went in to the beer garden on soi 7 tonight because the music was awesome. Was not looking for a girl so I sat with a friendly looking guy at the bar. He spoke Thai as he says he's lived here for 17 years.

Turns out we're both music fanatics. So we sat for an hour talking about everyone from the Stones to Lou Reed. Suddenly this goddess appears out of nowhere and latches on to me.

Now my new friend acts as interpreter and we arrange a long stay for 2000baht. I say goodbye to the guy and moon and I head home. I'm kind of in a dream state. Why is she so attracted to me?

She definitely a good actress. Put me right at ease. She sends me to the shower by myself. Alarm bells went but I didn't hear them. Now would be a good time to search the room. Too bad-all good stuff in safe. After showering, she goes in and showers. I get the money out of my shorts and put it on the table.

She comes out and is pleased to see it but doesn't take it yet.

Then the passion begins and quite frankly, I definitely got my money's worth. The sheet was soaked in cum-hers not mine. I never even got it in her.

Her phone rings and she has to take it because it could be her mom (she had pre-warned me on this). But guess what? It's her sister calling to say mom had a heart attack! Holy shit the flood gates opened up!

What's a guy to do? I told her to go and look after her mom and let her take the money too. Then she had the audacity to ask for a couple more bananas for the trip back to the bar-I mean the hospital. Most likely a different bar this time where my friendly Austrian who speaks Thai and resembles a happy smiling Buddha has the next sucker laughing and feeling good.

I just don't get it though because when she bats those big brown eyes at you-you will pay her 2000 baht for one hour.

So if a 5 foot 6 looker who claims to be 40 and shows you her boobs are real and tells you she will do everything for you cums along. You decide. Just make sure the valuables are locked up when she sends you to shower alone.

Not a happy ending for me but quite a few for her. And hey, that's my specialty.

Member #4698
02-03-13, 20:41
Nice non-profit restaurant for tourists. I say that because the food is blander than it really should be.
they also have a resort in Pattaya. Food's tasteless and aimed at clueless tourists, Avoid.I agree with you guys. Nothing is worse than eating bland Thai food. It is hard enough trying to find a good Thai restaurant in South Florida. I don't fly 23 hours MIA to BKK in order to get served the same sort of bland dishes I can find in Fort Lauderdale or indulge for that matter in the same style P4P available in my neck of the woods. I have no use for Farang Thai style restaurants that water down the flavor to suit tourists or cut costs. I am not necessarily talking about heat. Some Thai dishes are not meant to be hot, but all Thai cuisine is meant to be flavorful due to the rather liberal and complex use of herbs and seasonings employed by genuine Thai cooks. And when certain Thai dishes ARE meant to be hot, they should never be damped down for any reason. I hate it when I am asked how hot I want something. Serve it to me the way the cook would eat it. Better yet, don't ask because when a restaurant starts to ask this question it means they have already crossed the line and made certain compromises.

Besides Cabbages, Suda is another popular Thai tourist restaurant catering to the tastes of foreigners, specializing in bland food, and not serving the real deal.

Wolvenvacht
02-03-13, 20:59
I agree with you guys. Nothing is worse than eating bland Thai food. (...) Serve it to me the way the cook would eat it.

Besides Cabbages, Suda is another popular Thai tourist restaurant catering to the tastes of foreigners, specializing in bland food, and not serving the real deal.I did not find the food served in Cabbages and Condoms bland at all. I found it flavourful and spicy where it should. Besides I saw more Thai people in Cabbages and Condoms in Bangkok than tourists.

Luvpuss
02-03-13, 21:32
I did not find the food served in Cabbages and Condoms bland at all. I found it flavourful and spicy where it sho5% farang.uld. Besides I saw more Thai people in Cabbages and Condoms in Bangkok than tourists.I agree. I found the food very flavorful and good. The place has been showcased on the Food Network in US. When I went it was 95% Farang.

Member #4698
02-03-13, 21:46
I did not find the food served in Cabbages and Condoms bland at all. I found it flavourful and spicy where it should.On most subjects Thai punter related you and I tend to agree, therefor on the Cabbages question; I guess we will have to just respectfully disagree. To further the conversation a little, here is a short list of some of my all-time favorite BKK restaurants:

Chote Chitr: address 146 Praeng Phuton Road, is a small storefront restaurant near the Royal Palace that serves up really good authentic Thai cuisine. Give them a try for lunch.

Bussaracum: address 1 Si Wiang Road (off Soi Pramuan) , is on the high end / gourmet quality spectrum of Thai restaurants, but just as authentic as Chote Chitr. This place is unbelievable. The set course lunch is a great deal considering the quality and number of selections and dinner at Bussaracum is one of the best choices in BKK at any price.

Rut & Lek: address Soi Texas off Thanon Yaowarat in Chinatown, also deserves honorable mention on my favorite BKK restaurants list. It is open only at night, but serves up some the best seafood you will find anywhere.

So try one of these restaurants next time you are in BKK and let me know what you think.

NB

Chris Long
02-03-13, 22:44
I will be visiting for the first time in June I plan on spending four or five days in Bangkok and then two weeks in Pattaya. I have a late flight that does not get into BKK until 12:30 AM I want to get a hotel that is right in the heart of the action and easy for a newbe to BKK to figure out the scene and get some action on the first night. I was thinking of staying at the Nana Plaza hotel but I am open to any other suggestion from the board. I am looking for a modest price room. Where is a good place for a newbe to stay his first night so he can find the action late at night on the first night.

Thanks

Chris

(Sorry ment to post this under the hotel section)

PogoStick
02-03-13, 22:49
When asking for the bill ("Check bin") they will give you a condom with your change.Is that what it was? I must have been drunk. I thought it was a really chewy, bad tasting after dinner mint.

Sunlover2
02-03-13, 23:05
I have a late flight that does not get into BKK until 12:30 AM I want to get a hotel that is right in the heart of the action and easy for a newbe to BKK to figure out the scene and get some action on the first night. I was thinking of staying at the Nana Plaza hotel but I am open to any other suggestion from the board. I am looking for a modest price room. Where would be a good place for a newbe to stay his first night so he can find the action late at night on his first night.Given your circumstances and price range the Nana Plaza is a good choice. Ground zero location, $50 a night, safe in room, decent pool, and the morning breakfast buffet is included in the price. If you don't end up liking the place just move after a day or two. Plenty of hotels in the area.

SunLover

Zahle
02-03-13, 23:07
Hi guys,

I am coming for a business trip for one week to Bangkok and would highly appreciate if you could provide some tips.

1. GF Hotels. What does girl friendly hotel means in Bangkok. Does it mean a girl can just come to my room at anytime be herself, or I can come with her to my room at any time. Most probably I will be staying at Amari Watergate, and I have read it is GF. But probably some of my business partners will be staying in the same hotel, so discretion is very important to me.In BKK it means that you can bring girls to your room and you don't have to pay joiner fee. It also means that you can have visitors that visits you (escorts / outcalls)


4. Escort girls. Do you know of a good escort service / girl you would recommend.For outcalls you can also pick from a lot of the massage places. Check their websites for prices and pictures. Its a lot cheaper than actual escort services.

Zahle
02-03-13, 23:19
there is actually a great search function link in the upper right corner on every single site of this forum. click "advanced search", then "search single content forum", and remember to choose "show result as report".

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lollipop soi 10.

soms haven soi 14.

star of light patpong 2.

most places are 700 bath.

happy hunting