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Tony Hoeprano
04-19-13, 09:57
Where's the best place for afternoon mongering for the best looking girls? Sometimes its the only time I'm free and haven't found much at the usual haunts suggested in this forum like the Beer Garden, Guliver's, the BJ bars, and anywhere along lower Sukhumvit. When I've searched, I've mostly run into mostly girls with that "Predator" look(you know..the movie, where Arnie yells Get to the choppa!!) that's typical among the hoochie mamas in southeast Asia LOL
Member #4698
04-19-13, 11:43
But what makes Thailand special for me is what I don't have back home. Warm weather all year round, an apartment house that has a lovely pool and a gym, being able within five minutes to go out at night and hang out with a friend or by myself, feeling safe nearly 100% of the time no matter where I go or at what time. And I have been told that girls are also available and easily accessible. But all this isn't enough for a lot of guys because at the end of the day it isn't home and most people want the familiarity they grew up with, their people, their customs, their way of doing things. You won't find that in Thailand. But for now that is ok with me.
I'm using Miami, Florida as a home base for the time being; so I have the warm weather that characterizes Bangkok, a pool, the beaches a good gym five minutes away; and I've also found a couple of cute strippers who I fuck on a regular basis; US$150 for a really good 2 or 3 hour romp with no strings attached, so the price is reasonable. The dancers in the strip clubs in Miami are as good or better than the coyote dancers in Bangkok; and as we all know, what Bangkok's go-go girls do can't even be called dancing. But all things considered, I really miss Bangkok. It has a vibe I don't find here. Bangkok's restaurant scene is so much better than Miami. Exploring Florida is not like exploring Thailand; and a trip to Atlanta is not like a trip to Hong Kong. Though I have fun with my little strippers, there's nothing like Bangkok's mongering scene here, or anywhere else, as far as I'm concerned.
I think your second to the last sentence really speaks to why some men eventually grow tired of Bangkok. However, learning a new language and culture and making new friends is great mental exercise and can rejuvenate an older brain. I look forward to the day I can call Bangkok home for at least a good part of the year.You guys have summed up my thoughts about living abroad well. Right now I lead a pretty good life in south Florida. Weather, one factor DR mentioned, is very good here. But I am tired of living in the USA and long for the day when I can spend more than just 6 weeks a year in Asia. I have a business and family to think about, but sometime in the next 10 years I know I will be free to make the break, reverse things, move to Thailand – rent a condo, and spend maybe only 6 weeks a year in south Florida.
Why Thailand? And why Bangkok in particular? Because of all the places I know and would consider as a home base in South East Asia, BKK has it all: more than enough friendly, attractive girls (of course) , plus culture, restaurants, things to do, great location (I. E. Close proximity to other great places of interest like fabulous beaches, islands, reefs, other watering holes (different Asian girls) , and relative safety. The last factor, relative safety, is pretty important to me. I know some great Filipinas for example, and quite possibly a Filipina is a better match for me long term, but the thought of living in Manila or Cebu City does not appeal to me at all. And while the idea of renting a beach house in Palawan or some other beach area in the PI and settling down there with one or two girls is very tempting, when I start to think of the risks associated with living anywhere in the PI, I come to the conclusion it just not worth it. I considered Pattaya – Jomtien, but came to the conclusion there is not enough there to keep me interested and occupied. Besides the beach there is polluted. So by default BKK becomes the one really viable choice. Perhaps a couple of years after I make the move to BKK, I may decide to move on to a quieter area with a great beach and settle down with a special Thai girl, but for the initial move to Asia, BKK seems to be the logical right choice for me.
And as far as BKK goes, I really like the upper Sukhumvit area. I like the ambiance and mix of high rise condos, houses, small shops, restaurants, massage parlors, and what not. Anywhere from Soi 23 all the way up to Soi 55 looks real good to me as long as the condo I choose has a good swimming pool, security, and close proximity to the BTS. I think it would feel like I was living in the Thai version of the upper west side of Manhattan only better and I think I would be pretty happy here for at least a year or so. DR, we may be neighbors someday. LOL.
You guys have summed up my thoughts about living abroad well. Right now I lead a pretty good life in south Florida. Weather, one factor DR mentioned, is very good here. But I am tired of living in the USA and long for the day when I can spend more than just 6 weeks a year in Asia. I have a business and family to think about, but sometime in the next 10 years I know I will be free to make the break, reverse things, move to Thailand – rent a condo, and spend maybe only 6 weeks a year in south Florida.
Why Thailand? And why Bangkok in particular? Because of all the places I know and would consider as a home base in South East Asia, BKK has it all: more than enough friendly, attractive girls (of course) , plus culture, restaurants, things to do, great location (I. E. Close proximity to other great places of interest like fabulous beaches, islands, reefs, other watering holes (different Asian girls) , and relative safety. The last factor, relative safety, is pretty important to me. I know some great Filipinas for example, and quite possibly a Filipina is a better match for me long term, but the thought of living in Manila or Cebu City does not appeal to me at all. And while the idea of renting a beach house in Palawan or some other beach area in the PI and settling down there with one or two girls is very tempting, when I start to think of the risks associated with living anywhere in the PI, I come to the conclusion it just not worth it. I considered Pattaya – Jomtien, but came to the conclusion there is not enough there to keep me interested and occupied. Besides the beach there is polluted. So by default BKK becomes the one really viable choice. Perhaps a couple of years after I make the move to BKK, I may decide to move on to a quieter area with a great beach and settle down with a special Thai girl, but for the initial move to Asia, BKK seems to be the logical right choice for me.
And as far as BKK goes, I really like the upper Sukhumvit area. I like the ambiance and mix of high rise condos, houses, small shops, restaurants, massage parlors, and what not. Anywhere from Soi 23 all the way up to Soi 55 looks real good to me as long as the condo I choose has a good swimming pool, security, and close proximity to the BTS. I think it would feel like I was living in the Thai version of the upper west side of Manhattan only better and I think I would be pretty happy here for at least a year or so. DR, we may be neighbors someday. LOL.Hi guys,
I am a asian living in India, Chennai. I saw your post. Nice to see guys come down from US and living here. Woh. I liked very much the normal way of approach of life. Guys you all in BKK now. I am planning to come BKK again (last trip was mar'13). If you guys are there and willing to meet. Then yes. Me too. Have a great days my fellow mongers.
i think that applies to all bj bars. several times over the last month, i have been feeling a bit revved up and thought i would head by for a bj. rode my motorbike by som's, lollipop, and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s a few times, and to be honest just did not see one gal that i would pay (or not pay for that matter) for a bj. the gals were old, fat, and / or just plain unattractive. when i am getting blown i want to look down and think wow! ain't going to happen at those places.try mew at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. pretty girl and gives much better than average head, though that's about all she's been willing to do with me. i joke with her about her always being on the rag. there have been a few new girls at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s recently as well. one young sweetie that i remember in particular. i didn't get her name.
gin, at som's place gives a tremendous bbbj. she ain't much to look at, that is true, but what a blowjob.
Member #4414
04-19-13, 17:38
try mew at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. pretty girl and gives much better than average head.
gin, at som's place gives a tremendous bbbj. she ain't much to look at, that is true, but what a blowjob.many thanks for the names. intending to visit a bj bar for the first time when going to bangkok soon.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and dr bj are two that come up on the forum and it had been my intention to soon ask on here if anyone had name recommendations from experience, to make things less of a gamble about performance when visiting. concerns about looks are out the window on this mission, as my concern is to get that cim bbbj really well done. it has been a long time since cim, and whoever gets it is going to get whiplash.
one young sweetie that i remember in particular. i didn't get her nameno. if the name ever resurfaces, i'd be gratefull for a follow up.
try mew at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. pretty girl and gives much better than average head, though that's about all she's been willing to do with me. i joke with her about her always being on the rag. there have been a few new girls at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s recently as well. one young sweetie that i remember in particular. i didn't get her name.
gin, at som's place gives a tremendous bbbj. she ain't much to look at, that is true, but what a blowjob.will give 'them a try. thanks for the tips!
Good job!
But what I take from your post is Thailand isn't really that great without the girls.Well, what place is? I think everyone on these pages likes being around women whether physically or simply as an observer. Without them I am not sure I would continue to remain in Thailand as much as I like the feel of the place. But Thailand does have lots of them and as I have tried to outline lots more than girls if one so choses. It also depends on what stage you are in life. If I still had to work, I doubt very much that I would want to live in Thailand for financial reasons, but if you are done with the working life and are still pretty healthy Thailand can be a great place to live. If I had tons of money perhaps I would prefer living on the Riviera or in Spain and I could ship girls in from the very best *****houses in Europe, but like most of us I would guess I am on limited means and Thailand fits my budgetary restrictions perfectly. But maybe not because I really like Asian women and SE Asian culture and SE Asian weather. But now that I think about it, there really is by definition no "great" place to live. It's all about what you want and what best fits your needs. Some people will be miserable everywhere. I see guys come to Thailand and love it for a while but eventually they start complaining about every little thing. They would do the same in Shangra la. So all I can say is that Thailand is "great" for me right now.
NeverGetsOld
04-20-13, 02:10
Kick another 1 out without opening the wallet. Works at Baan K, has own car (or parents?)
This 1 different.
Tries to teach me Thai (goes through 1 ear out the other)
Won't even kiss me for 30 minutes unless I separate myself from other farang. I know just enough bullshit to pass her test (8 thai words, a few thai meals, and all the places to go around Bangkok (asiatique, MBK, siam paragon, floating market, j. J. Market.) Act like I hardly know what a bar girl or soi cowboy is hehe which is what she was expecting was all I knew.
Round 1, she's wet instantly and my first premature ejaculation in a real long time. Don't even know if she realized I came in her a pussy, oh well LOL Sleep cuddled for an hour Round 2 girl is timid "I thought we were going to sleep" hahaha don't think she was going to suck my dick so pull the slickest maneuver to get her to. She is laying down, sit on her chest. Keep on putting finger in her mouth and lips for like 3 minutes until she finally suck it. Put her hand on my dick and make quick dash to stick dick in her mouth. She sucks it like a pro but it so disgusted herself, which makes it so much more gratifying to me. Flip It over and cum on her back and you can tell the girl feels soooo dirty. Can't believe she just did that with farang. She won't even move a centimeter. Laying in bed like a mummy whahaha.
Kick her out at 4 a. M. Act like I have to go food shopping, laughing my ass off. Fuck, I need some better excuses. Think I'd rather jerk off to hot girls then fuck these middle of road hoes. Needs some pretty light skin ones shlobbin' my knob but they get expensive and act like American chicks. If I can't find a pretty light skin Thai chick with a GOOD personality this year, will be off to South America next year where I know I can.
Well, what place is? I think everyone on these pages likes being around women whether physically or simply as an observer. Without them I am not sure I would continue to remain in Thailand as much as I like the feel of the place. But Thailand does have lots of them and as I have tried to outline lots more than girls if one so choses. It also depends on what stage you are in life. If I still had to work, I doubt very much that I would want to live in Thailand for financial reasons, but if you are done with the working life and are still pretty healthy Thailand can be a great place to live. If I had tons of money perhaps I would prefer living on the Riviera or in Spain and I could ship girls in from the very best *****houses in Europe, but like most of us I would guess I am on limited means and Thailand fits my budgetary restrictions perfectly. But maybe not because I really like Asian women and SE Asian culture and SE Asian weather. But now that I think about it, there really is by definition no "great" place to live. It's all about what you want and what best fits your needs. Some people will be miserable everywhere. I see guys come to Thailand and love it for a while but eventually they start complaining about every little thing. They would do the same in Shangra la. So all I can say is that Thailand is "great" for me right now.Ronin makes a very valid point. Thailand is not a great place to work. You are not afforded the same path to citizenship that you are in most Western countries. In fact, you are pretty much prevented from competing and participating in the economy as an equal. To me that is the biggest drawback of Thailand.
Franciscass
04-20-13, 05:30
interesting soi but it doesn't do much for me. dr. bj seems a nice fella and i'd like to help out, but his girls just aren't up to snuff looks wise. and, i'm not picky. i hit [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and som's place regularly. the looks talent in those two places can be hit and miss, but there are some diamonds in the rough in both places. som's place, in particular, runs hot and cold, but i like the place anyway.
i honestly think dr. bj's soi is just too "open and bright". [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, lollipops and som's haven are more secluded, and inviting. maybe that's just me, but i doubt if i'm alone on that score.my sentinments exactly. if you're at a soapie or an oilie after you choose your partner you also want a nice room, fresh towels and bedding, some mood music, a cold beer and you're good to go. for a 30 minute bj give me dark and seedy, cheap and sleezy not gleam and clean. personally sol does it for me.
Franciscass
04-20-13, 05:40
I will be happily spending some time and Baht on soi 7/1 in a few weeks. Headed to Eden for sure and most likely will pay multiple visits, will probably also check out Dr. BJ's if only to have a go at the lovely miss EE. Will probably end up getting a few massages on that soi also as it is convenient to my hotel location.
Which businesses are going under?Don't forget Tarntip massage. Their new place has spa like facilities at regular prices (400 for an oil massage) and is open late. Nominally a straight up massage only spot but things ain't always what they seem.
I ll try another way. Thailand attracts certain kind of people, I am one of them. But lets not give Thailand too much credit saying theres tons of things to do. All places have the same pool tables, newspapers, malls, etc.
Its the girls!There are lots of things to do here. Beaches, temples, mountains, hilltribe peoples, caves, amazing varieties of foods, rivers, etc. And traveling and enjoying these things is relatively inexpensive and in many of the places it is not crowded if you travel outside of high season.
I thought you were into light skin pretty girls. LOL.
Good on you if you lowering your standards-youll have more fun!I am, but hey, there just aren't that many of them around these days. All places are worth a look see at least. If I don't like, well, can always move on. Now, if I could just find out what the barfine is at Central World or Terminal 21!
Member #4698
04-20-13, 10:45
barfined a rainbow 2 girl last night. i liked the session very much, will probably do her again in my 3 remaining weeks.i liked your report h. it mirrors my go go experiences. i have found that there are a lot of wonderful, fun loving, sexy girls working the go go's that are more than willing to show a guy a good time if they like him and he treats them nice. it sounds to me like you should definitely do her again and if you like her, trade email addresses and cell numbers with her. i have a few go go girls rep001tered around bkk, pat, ac, and subic that i have been seeing for years. they are all great. but, as i am sure you know; variety is the spice of life. whenever i start to spend too much time with the go go girls, it is very rewarding to mix it up and visit a soapy or oily for a slightly different, but no less satisfying experience.
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Somewhere15
04-20-13, 12:50
I am a little surprised that many disco's clubs (like Bangkok Beat and former Insomnia) are already closing at 2 AM.
First I thought this was before the upcoming Songkran festivals but also over the last days I experienced this.
Staff can't give always the best answers its mostly like need to do from police.
At least 5 nights over the last 12 days.
Yesterday (Friday) evening first the lights went on at 2AM on Bangkok Beat and afterwards (2:30 I guess) when I was eating something at the terrace of the former Insomnia the people came an mass out of the club.
New policies or?
Enclosed some of the scores that I made so far.
Now, if I could just find out what the barfine is at Central World or Terminal 21!It's waaaaayyyy more than you have. Or at least are willing to part with. :)
I'm back from Thailand, having spent 3 nights in Pattaya and 5 nights in Bangkok. Women can be found in many venues, including beer bars, Go-Gos, clubs and the streets. Some are associated with the establishment in some way, resulting in bar fines to take them out; others are strictly free-lancers. I prefer the beer bars, because their noise level is tolerable and conversation is possible. In other places, the music is so loud as to preclude any conversation, particularly with women with limited English ability. This is the high season, with great (dry) weather and many visitors, but there was no shortage of available women. The currency here is the Baht, but for convenience I'll talk dollars. I usually go for the 'short time; ' I'm a one-pop guy at my age, so overnighters have little appeal.
I booked a girl-friendly hotel strategically located near the infamous 'walking street. ' in Pattaya. On my first night, I found a cutie in a beer bar. She was a good kisser and great fuck, and the price was very good ($30 plus $10 bar fine). I took the second night off to recover from jet lag. On my last night in Pattaya, I couldn't find any in the beer bars that floated my boat, so I broke down and went to a well-reviewed Go-Go. By then it was 1:00 am; the place had very few guys, but 4 women were dancing on the poles and 2 were playing in a tub across the room. One of the tub ladies looked very pretty from a distance, and she was naked, so her body looked good too. I beckoned to her and she dried herself off and joined me. She looked just as good close up and had a bubbly personality, so I made the arrangements. As I expected, she was more expensive: $60 plus a $20 bar fine. She too provided a great time.
On to Bangkok, with a reservation in another girl-friendly hotel between the two famous venues: Nana and Soi Cowboy. (Q: what's the sure sign of a girl-friendly hotel? A: condoms in the minibar!)
On my first night out, I headed up the street to find some action. I didn't get far; I ran into a stunning woman a block from my hotel. I suspect she had just left a client in another hotel, but no matter. Her short-time charge was $60 and she was true GFE. She wanted to stay the night but I declined.
I took a day off, and my third day was a double header. In the late afternoon I visited the famous Annie's soapy massage parlor. I walked in to see about a dozen women on display behind a glass window, all wearing black bikinis, and all solid 8s. I finally chose a slim, long-legged one. She led me to a room equipped with a bathtub, a pad on the floor and a bed. The charge was $75 for two hours, and the menu included a bubble bath, slip and slide nuru style on the pad, an oil massage, and finally full service. Definitely lots of fun. A Thai I see back in Virginia had given me contact information for a friend of hers in Bangkok, so I arranged to see her when I arrived. She showed up at my hotel in the evening, and provided a GFE. She cost a little more, at $90.
It was time to check out some of the local bars, so on my fourth night I visited Thermae, a well-known pick-up bar for free-lancers that was just down the street from my hotel. There were several women standing outside, a good sign. I went inside and was blown away – there had be at least 50 women literally standing shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter, and more seated at tables. They vastly outnumbered us guys, who were looking as dazed as I was. How to pick? I finally selected one; her short-time rate was $60, and she had a great personality as well as providing a GFE. She's a hairdresser, and does this for extra income; she clearly enjoyed sex, so it's a winning combination.
On my last night, a return to Thermae was clearly indicated. The scene was the same; if anything, there were more women. The selection process was simplified when a cutie grabbed me and said she had a discount for me – only $45. She also spoke decent English, so after a short Q&A to confirm that she was GFE, off we went. She too was a part-timer, selling clothes as her day job. I suspect a lot of the FLs are similar.
So that's a week in the land of smiles; my only challenge is how to get back there soon!
I would not personally invest in this, but I check this site and post this from time to time just for info.
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". she will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
It requires a fee of 40,000 B and the 2 of you get an HIV check together before. Looks like Som, Cleo, Beer and Ann are up to it. Beer has some big tits and Ann looks pretty cute.
For one night the total is:
40,000
10,000(escort fee)
3,000 (for test)
http://www.bkkescorts.com/Bangkok%20escorts%20no%2007 / contact. Htm
Wolvenvacht
04-20-13, 22:07
I would not personally invest in this, but I check this site and post this from time to time just for info.
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". She will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
It requires a fee of 40, 000 B and the 2 of you get an HIV check together before. Looks like Som, Cleo, Beer and Ann are up to it. Beer has some big tits and Ann looks pretty cute.
For one night the total is:
40, 000.
10, 000 (escort fee)
3, 000 (for test) The sky is the limit. I'm sure they will find some men with more money than brains to take that option.
Paul Kausch
04-21-13, 04:04
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". She will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
For one night the total is:
40, 000.
10, 000 (escort fee)
3, 000 (for test)
http://www.bkkescorts.com/Bangkok
%20escorts%20no%2007 / contact. Htm
The sky is the limit. I'm sure they will find some men with more money than brains to take that option.Isn't free enterprise great. Some mongers ride bareback. Most men find bareback more pleasurable than wearing a condom. So this enterprising service provider offers "unprotected safe sex" for the small fee of THB40000. What a deal! Wonder how often do they get a taker? I also noticed in the past they have offered virgins. Wonder what is on the unpublished menu? One of the things I love about the sex business is the way it supplies the demand. Anything you want is available for a price.
Of course I'm guessing the guys who ride bareback are getting it at no extra cost or with a little extra added to the tip. I've had it offered at no extra charge or for a small surcharge, and only turned it down because I value my health. However now that there is an FDA approved in-home oral HIV test that gives results in 20 minutes maybe I should revisit this option. A few OraQuick packs and a bottle of antibiotics and I have nothing to fear. Right. I'm being facetious.
Linkwray666
04-21-13, 05:44
Don't forget Tarntip massage. Their new place has spa like facilities at regular prices (400 for an oil massage) and is open late. Nominally a straight up massage only spot but things ain't always what they seem.Thanks man, was wondering about that place and the other massage places in that soi. I enjoy a nice massage whether or not it ends with HE (but prefer that is does!) and usually have at least one massage a day when in SE Asia, will check it out and if it's good probably go multiple times.
NeverGetsOld
04-21-13, 13:37
been paying for pussy since i was a teen and it's usually better. trying to convince a girl 2 hours to suck your dick and then just lick the tip for 2 minutes is not the most fun thing in the world. however it's just coming too easy in thailand and seems every woman knows how to suck a dick here. money still greater then game in my mind, but due to financial restrictions using game to score in bangkok, even though a woman costs as much as a dvd here.
4/20.
5:30 super sexy 20 why / o spinner with model face on my bed. looking a little crusty and lack of communication is really hurting. only get tongue kissing in before she sprints out the door. painful rejection. probably should've taken her to cinema but also may have saved myself 2 hours of blue balls. just found out today the age of consent is 20 here? whatttt theeee fuckkkk? true?
9:00 resurrection. soon to be 35 year old with most vicious body. 4'11, 98 pounds, quality fake tits, and the plumpest, juiciest ass i have ever seen on a woman that age. speaks good english and come to find out she is super entrepreneur / business woman. owns many businesses, travels the world, speaks good english and has great personality. came from nothing. offers to pay for everything. no kids, works 7 days a week. impressed.
we bar hop in silom / patpong and i have to say i'm a big fan of the nightlife in the area. i can do without the toothless, retarded british gangster looking homos and the spaghetti stained t shirt, pile of shit american wwe fans. in other words, not as low class as pattaya or nana. throwing down well made mixed drinks and beer. singaporeans, malaysians and westerners partying it up. hit another place with live music and i'm feeling it. singing to classic american songs. bars rep001tered with tourists and cute thai hookers in nice dresses bobbing their heads to the music. saw a lot of butt i would feed.
head over to narz club a few blocks behind soi cowboy and the place is dope. world class club. tons of space, isolation, and dark nooks. hooking up with her for 2 hours. try to fuck her on the floor there behind a bar and don't but the opportunity is there. beats the hell out of a jizz stained short time hotel. girl tries to go our separate ways 5 times but i'm not having that. onto the bed and it's the tightest pussy i've seen since high school. she hasn't had sex in a longggggg time and maybe 2 or 3 times in the last 3 years. i luck out again because i'm only 75% hard with all the liquor in me and it still hurts her. actually feel bad cumming in this one's pussy. she really didn't want it and even smells my dick but still doesn't recognize it. quick nut unfortunately. hook up with her some more and she actually give me a footjob that feels good. didn't know that was possible and get hard enough to give her some candy. feeling steve jobs type of accomplished as i walk this one out.
4/21 reunite with the gf. she's been getting paid. 1 old dude gave her 60, 000 baht. supposedly 9 weeks in the game but want to quit and be a waitress. i prefer her to take the shriveled dick so she can keep on buying my meals. dumb front desk pig tells her i've been bringing girls here every night (at least the taxi drivers here like me) she runs of crying. returns an hour later and i get my nut off. sleeping early and maybe go to ayutthaya with the gf tomorrow. 2 weeks til my first cambodian pussy wheeee. might not pay for it til then.
Stopped by the Bangkok classic, the Thermae Coffee Shop on Sukhumvit, this past Saturday night around 11pm. There must have been 100 Thai ladies, standing shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter of the place. For the Japanese mongers, this place is heaven on earth. I'd estimate the women outnumbered the men 2 to 1. I found a 32 year old who had the sense to realize she was up against some tough competition. She asked me for 2500Baht, and I spit my ice back into my drink! Finally settled on 1500 Baht, which I think is a little high, but I failed to do the full interview before we headed back to the hotel. When we started the party, she whipped out a condom. Her message was, no condom, no smoke. That really doesn't work for me, so I didn't enjoy myself as much as I would have liked. She had a pretty decent body for having 2 kids in Burriram. No map of Thailand on her stomach, and her breasts were still in decent shape. She loved having her "hoy" licked, and came before I decided to saddle up for my ride. Another learning experience. Give me Pattaya any time. But I will check out the Thermae before I leave for the USA. I saw 25 budget busters in the Thermae last Saturday night! I will need one for the road.
Stopped by the Bangkok classic, the Thermae Coffee Shop on Sukhumvit, this past Saturday night around 11pm. There must have been 100 Thai ladies, standing shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter of the place. For the Japanese mongers, this place is heaven on earth. I'd estimate the women outnumbered the men 2 to 1. I found a 32 year old who had the sense to realize she was up against some tough competition. She asked me for 2500Baht, and I spit my ice back into my drink! Finally settled on 1500 Baht, which I think is a little high, but I failed to do the full interview before we headed back to the hotel. When we started the party, she whipped out a condom. Her message was, no condom, no smoke. That really doesn't work for me, so I didn't enjoy myself as much as I would have liked. She had a pretty decent body for having 2 kids in Burriram. No map of Thailand on her stomach, and her breasts were still in decent shape. She loved having her "hoy" licked, and came before I decided to saddle up for my ride. Another learning experience. Give me Pattaya any time. But I will check out the Thermae before I leave for the USA. I saw 25 budget busters in the Thermae last Saturday night! I will need one for the road.Just a lesson learned.
Just do the Pre sooner next time.
Crocodilexp
04-22-13, 19:34
I spend so much time in BKK I'm thinking about renting IDEO verve for a year 10 seconds from onnut bts station. I really love that condo! Only problem is I doubt girls will want to travel that far from nana for a barfine.Going back to your place within a 15 min travel radius is actually a good test to weed out the bad apples just looking for the as-fast-as-possible bang. If she's unwilling to spend 15 min going there, she won't be willing to spend the time to service you properly either. Asking for 2 shots (for slightly more money, perhaps) , is another test that works.
On Nut might be just a tad too far, though. Especially when the BTS is not running (after midnight).
Going back to your place within a 15 min travel radius is actually a good test to weed out the bad apples just looking for the as-fast-as-possible bang. If she's unwilling to spend 15 min going there, she won't be willing to spend the time to service you properly either. Asking for 2 shots (for slightly more money, perhaps) , is another test that works.
On Nut might be just a tad too far, though. Especially when the BTS is not running (after midnight).So true. It is a great way to weed out the ones that just want to provide wham bam service. If they are willing to travel to On Nut, they are probably willing to stay awhile. Harold, take the place!
been paying for pussy since i was a teen and it's usually better. trying to convince a girl 2 hours to suck your dick and then just lick the tip for 2 minutes is not the most fun thing in the world. however it's just coming too easy in thailand and seems every woman knows how to suck a dick here. money still greater then game in my mind, but due to financial restrictions using game to score in bangkok, even though a woman costs as much as a dvd here.
4/20.
5:30 super sexy 20 why / o spinner with model face on my bed. looking a little crusty and lack of communication is really hurting. only get tongue kissing in before she sprints out the door. painful rejection. probably should've taken her to cinema but also may have saved myself 2 hours of blue balls. just found out today the age of consent is 20 here? whatttt theeee fuckkkk? true?
9:00 resurrection. soon to be 35 year old with most vicious body. 4'11, 98 pounds, quality fake tits, and the plumpest, juiciest ass i have ever seen on a woman that age. speaks good english and come to find out she is super entrepreneur / business woman. owns many businesses, travels the world, speaks good english and has great personality. came from nothing. offers to pay for everything. no kids, works 7 days a week. impressed.
we bar hop in silom / patpong and i have to say i'm a big fan of the nightlife in the area. i can do without the toothless, retarded british gangster looking homos and the spaghetti stained t shirt, pile of shit american wwe fans. in other words, not as low class as pattaya or nana. throwing down well made mixed drinks and beer. singaporeans, malaysians and westerners partying it up. hit another place with live music and i'm feeling it. singing to classic american songs. bars rep001tered with tourists and cute thai hookers in nice dresses bobbing their heads to the music. saw a lot of butt i would feed.
head over to narz club a few blocks behind soi cowboy and the place is dope. world class club. tons of space, isolation, and dark nooks. hooking up with her for 2 hours. try to fuck her on the floor there behind a bar and don't but the opportunity is there. beats the hell out of a jizz stained short time hotel. girl tries to go our separate ways 5 times but i'm not having that. onto the bed and it's the tightest pussy i've seen since high school. she hasn't had sex in a longggggg time and maybe 2 or 3 times in the last 3 years. i luck out again because i'm only 75% hard with all the liquor in me and it still hurts her. actually feel bad cumming in this one's pussy. she really didn't want it and even smells my dick but still doesn't recognize it. quick nut unfortunately. hook up with her some more and she actually give me a footjob that feels good. didn't know that was possible and get hard enough to give her some candy. feeling steve jobs type of accomplished as i walk this one out.
4/21 reunite with the gf. she's been getting paid. 1 old dude gave her 60, 000 baht. supposedly 9 weeks in the game but want to quit and be a waitress. i prefer her to take the shriveled dick so she can keep on buying my meals. dumb front desk pig tells her i've been bringing girls here every night (at least the taxi drivers here like me) she runs of crying. returns an hour later and i get my nut off. sleeping early and maybe go to ayutthaya with the gf tomorrow. 2 weeks til my first cambodian pussy wheeee. might not pay for it til then.so you are being supported by a bar girl?
FreebieFan
04-23-13, 03:28
. I can do without the toothless, retarded british gangster looking homos and the spaghetti stained t shirt, pile of shit American wwe fans. Throwing down well made mixed drinks and beer. Singaporeans, Malaysians and westerners partying it up.And you, who are living off a girl who fucks for a living like any self respecting pimp does, must percieve yourself as Mr Cool. A hot young buck who clearly has charm so much so his freebies run away. Get a life young fellow, and realise that you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.
you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.Haha, FF you are taking the art of F slipping to perfection LOL.
NeverGetsOld
04-23-13, 05:00
So you are being supported by a bar girl?Nah, but she helps me out immensely. Has 1000 Thai friend rolodex that come in handy in more ways then you could imagine.
Going back to your place within a 15 min travel radius is actually a good test to weed out the bad apples just looking for the as-fast-as-possible bang. If she's unwilling to spend 15 min going there, she won't be willing to spend the time to service you properly either. Asking for 2 shots (for slightly more money, perhaps) , is another test that works.
On Nut might be just a tad too far, though. Especially when the BTS is not running (after midnight).These days many of the girls in Nana Plaza don't even want to leave the Plaza to go down the street to my apt. The short time hotels there do an amazing business. I should have invested in one. I have seen a lot of girls not even bother to change. Right from the go-go in their go-go outfit into a st room and back again within 30 minutes unless they get stuck in foot traffic. I can't imagine there are many Nana go-go girls that would be willing to go further than Asoke unless you had a prior relationship with her, payed her extra or the rent was over due. Soi Cowboy may be different.
These days many of the girls in Nana Plaza don't even want to leave the Plaza to go down the street to my apt. .Many but not all. I have seen some typical go-go cuties (those with a japanese make up and hair-do) walking in tow of a customer on Sukhumvit heading to some nearby (punter's) hotel. Still they are back after some 30'. They are dressed in civil, but the make up shows where they are coming from
Vincelee76
04-23-13, 07:35
I ll try another way. Thailand attracts certain kind of people, I am one of them. But lets not give Thailand too much credit saying theres tons of things to do. All places have the same pool tables, newspapers, malls, etc.
Its the girls!The girls in Thailand are Awsome. Compare to the women back home in Western countries. They are cold, arrogant, overweight, disrespectful, if you manage to get one to go out with you, It is like she is doing you a favor, a feminist, talks down about men behind our backs. Need I go on? Asian women are soooooo much better. There is just no comparison what so ever.
Vincelee76
04-23-13, 07:51
I would not personally invest in this, but I check this site and post this from time to time just for info.
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". She will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
It requires a fee of 40, 000 B and the 2 of you get an HIV check together before. Looks like Som, Cleo, Beer and Ann are up to it. Beer has some big tits and Ann looks pretty cute.
For one night the total is:
40, 000.
10, 000 (escort fee)
3, 000 (for test)
http://www.bkkescorts.com/Bangkok
%20escorts%20no%2007 / contact. HtmYou are playing with a loaded gun when doing without condom. Someone is bound to get hurt. Have more will power and self control. Do look into some japanese brand condoms, they are guarantee to be the thinest. Good luck to you.
Western787
04-23-13, 08:20
I ll try another way. Thailand attracts certain kind of people, I am one of them. But lets not give Thailand too much credit saying theres tons of things to do. All places have the same pool tables, newspapers, malls, etc.
Its the girls!Its the girls + the infrastructure of a world class city that happens to have relatively low priced 4 and 5 star hotels in abundance, and some of the lowest cost luxury apartment and condo rentals of any major city in the world. If it were just the girls and pool tables and so forth, then Phnom Penh, Myamar, and Angeles City would be just as good, but they are not, because a visitor is forced in those cities to contend on a day to day basis with significant 3rd world type issues.
Now for the extreme hypothetical, if (in the very rare case) money were no object, would a monger chose to primarily live in Bangkok? No, probably not, as he would probably have multiple homes elsewhere, for example perhaps an oceanfront estate or condo in Hawaii and the means to bring in all mainland girls he needed, and perhaps for example a flat in London to enjoy all the top end P4P talent now being imported into that city especially from China and other asian locales, as well as Eastern Europe. The UK in fact has now effectively made not only (non brothel) P4P private (off the street) transactions legal, but now with a recent court case in effect have made agency operations de facto legal as long as the agencies only exercise minimal control over their agency girls. So expect the imported talent to get even better for those that can afford for the top end 3 to 5 times the cost in Bangkok for ST, and up to 10 times the cost in Bangkok for LT.
Western787
04-23-13, 09:09
And you, who are living off a girl who fucks for a living like any self respecting pimp does, must percieve yourself as Mr Cool. A hot young buck who clearly has charm so much so his freebies run away. Get a life young fellow, and realise that you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.Creative writing or accurate, it doesn't matter, as his posts are entertainining, and also its a fact women worldwide do get turned on by ATTITUDE. Also reminds me of the notorious Buddy Love character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6ECo_Ulzs
Western787
04-23-13, 09:16
And you, who are living off a girl who fucks for a living like any self respecting pimp does, must percieve yourself as Mr Cool. A hot young buck who clearly has charm so much so his freebies run away. Get a life young fellow, and realise that you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.
(repeat post)
You are playing with a loaded gun when doing without condom. Someone is bound to get hurt. Have more will power and self control. Do look into some japanese brand condoms, they are guarantee to be the thinest. Good luck to you.This should be debated here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1084-Safe-Sex
So this time I decided to take an escort service for 24 hours. Booked Stephanie from viagara escort services. Now it's a given that pics on websites will be photoshopped etc. So I was prepared for it and didn't expect her to 100% match her pics. In Stephanie's case, I would say expect 15-20% difference. Her English is not up to the mark. But rest of the services are as advertised. I would say it is value for money if you take for longer time like 24 hrs. For short time, I m not sure.
Next day I tried the mango massage parlour. Selected Wan from the lineup. Not much massage but excellent at BJ. Would recommend. But go for take out at your hotel room. The rooms inside are really small and tacky.
Never been to soi cowboy so went to check the famous baccara gogo. If you are Indian, you should forget about visiting this bar to pick up girls. We (Indians) have a bad rep here with these bars and I was already aware of it. (Not complaining since I know majority of Indians which visit Thailand are freeloading sexually repressed bums who have no idea of how to behave in foreign lands). Couldn't make eye contact with any girl. Some of the gorgeous ones were in fact not even there for the taking out I think. They were just eye candy I assume. Also saw not many farangs also getting attention. In fact the joint was prolly 70-80% filled with East Asians (Japanese I presume). Those were the guys getting the attention and the smiles. The rule of 4 at work I think.
Guess one can start splashing money about to show you mean business but I finished my beer and got out of there. Had an early morning flight to catch. Maybe will try it next time and see if it works.
Tony Hoeprano
04-23-13, 12:20
the girls in thailand are awsome. compare to the women back home in western countries. they are cold, arrogant, overweight, disrespectful, if you manage to get one to go out with you, it is like she is doing you a favor, a feminist, talks down about men behind our backs. need i go on? asian women are soooooo much better. there is just no comparison what so ever.i don't agree with your assessment on western women! the only difference is asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, i don't think there's any difference between the two groups. on a brief visit back to my home, i was exiting walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. how often does one get that in non p4p venues in thailand? i'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi i like you. you lub me? want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming thai girls are hahaha.
on a different note, i was in the silom area the other day decided grab a bite to eat at carl's jr. i thought this was the strangest place in all of bkk to put a burger joint in the middle of a little tokyo rld, but whatever. lol the ideal spot to sit is at the window in front and you can look at the hustle and bustle outside, and of course see the girls with their new boyfriend in tow, many nice girls here, does anyone know the price? i finish eating a carl's catch fish sandwich (highly recommended!) and decide to get a blowjob at star of light nearby, which had some excellent review. i find it and there's a few girls outside, very average looking (to put it kindly) and i open the door and walk in and was met by an awful smell, holy shit it was putrid! the room was decrepit and there was a cum bucket on the floor nearby. i peeked around the corner and some very average looking girls sitting on the couch with a blanket, they said you want blow job? it was grimy as hell and made a nana short time room look like the bellagio in las vegas hahaha. i said, no thanks and left.
I don't agree with your assessment on Western women! The only difference is Asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, I don't think there's any difference between the two groups. On a brief visit back to my home, I was exiting Walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. How often does one get that in non p4p venues in Thailand? I'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi I like you. You lub me? Want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming Thai girls are hahaha.Agreed Tony. The attitudes in BKK have become awful over the past 10 years. Yes, the women over here are far prettier, but they take materialism to an entirely new level. They only "warm" up when they think it will get them somewhere, and it is not just us Farangs that have to deal with this. The Thais dudes do as well.
In the West you will find a woman who will contribute more than her snatch to the relationship.
Vince, if and when you go out on a date with a gal here ask her what she is bringing to table besides sex. Most of us are bringing an estate of some value, and hey, I am not going to take care of a gal. Why should I? Renting is fine, but to join in a union with a gal who has nothing and will bleed ya dry is she can. No thanks!
Crazy4Thai
04-23-13, 14:03
Living off? Nerd I've been running my own business since a young age and never had a $1 handed to me. Not someone's ***** or slave for 30 years. She just brings me the best food around Bangkok. Vietnamese breakfast yesterday was banging. Don't me mad because I realize a girl can offer you a lot more then pussy if you are smart. Should be thanking me. I am helping a few more poor bastards get their dick wet because of me. I wouldn't put it like that but if fucking hot girls every day with an occasional rejection isn't Mr cool I don't know what is. I am not bragging, only sharing more tips then most and 1/1000 of my success to give back to a forum that has helped me a lot in some of my adventures.Hey thanks for that! YAWWWN
Hey thanks for that!
YAWWWNHe's Buddha's gift to the hobby, and to the entire ISG community. I guess we should be thanking him.
i don't agree with your assessment on western women! the only difference is asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, i don't think there's any difference between the two groups. on a brief visit back to my home, i was exiting walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. how often does one get that in non p4p venues in thailand? i'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi i like you. you lub me? want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming thai girls are hahaha.
on a different note, i was in the silom area the other day decided grab a bite to eat at carl's jr. i thought this was the strangest place in all of bkk to put a burger joint in the middle of a little tokyo rld, but whatever. lol the ideal spot to sit is at the window in front and you can look at the hustle and bustle outside, and of course see the girls with their new boyfriend in tow, many nice girls here, does anyone know the price? i finish eating a carl's catch fish sandwich (highly recommended!) and decide to get a blowjob at star of light nearby, which had some excellent review. i find it and there's a few girls outside, very average looking (to put it kindly) and i open the door and walk in and was met by an awful smell, holy shit it was putrid! the room was decrepit and there was a cum bucket on the floor nearby. i peeked around the corner and some very average looking girls sitting on the couch with a blanket, they said you want blow job? it was grimy as hell and made a nana short time room look like the bellagio in las vegas hahaha. i said, no thanks and left.the thai girls at 7-11 think your shirt is nice, but can speak the english words to tell you.
carl's? where is it i love that place.
sol. that is what makes it a great and different experience for me. the filth, smell and grit. not for everyone i guess.
He's Buddha's gift to the hobby, and to the entire ISG community. I guess we should be thanking him.Oh, so this is the ISG, about paying girls to perform sexual acts and various affiliated items? Thanks for clearing that up, for a moment I thought I had ended up in Pimp Central.
Ok since I know this report is going to be lost into the black hole that is any of the Thailand threads I'm going to make it short and sweet. Maybe not sweet. You be the judge of that.
Day 1.
Landed at noon on the 19th and got to my hotel Citadines on soi 23 at about 2. Took what was supposed to be a short nap. Got up at 7. Oops there goes my late afternoon session. Fuck that was a bad start. Get up and change and head to nana plaza. Have a couple of drinks at stumble inn, with the company of a lady. She was nice but I'd say a 6/10. Then head into the soi. I had a list made up of the places I'd go to. Got it from another website by a guy who does a great short review of nights in Bangkok if you were to do it on a red eye, and has a blog about guest friendly hotels. Thanks buddy. Entering the plaza to the right walked up one level. Mandarin 1 and 2. Waste of time. Up another floor. Nobody in carnival. Back down a floor and around to dc10. Guy seems to not let me in. I don't bother. Stick my head into spankys and angel witch nothing of interest. Go back up and look into billboard. Girls in tub but nothing looking hot. Lasvegas is closed. All the way down. To playschool. I like the place. Have a couple of beers, girls best here so far. Then to rainbow 1. Not allowed in. Members. WTF. Ok I move to lollypop, no interest. Then red lips, and pretty lady, a beer there each. Not bad but not great. Now the rounds are done and I can go to the top on the list to pick up some nice ladies. Ohh yeah holly word was night if I remember correctly. I go to rainbow 2 not let in. Members. So walk up to rainbow 4. Members. Ok now I'm a little fucking annoyed with these thai guy mother fucking racist bouncers. I can be racist too you useless pricks. (I'm indian by the way) I was so hoping to pick up a girl from rainbow 4 or 2 which I remember from my last trip were the best places to go in nana. Fuck it. I always thought soi cowboy was better in terms of atmosphere and girls. And never feltany racism there.
Head to soi cowboy with one of the few honest meter going taxi drivers in BKK. On the main road side now. Make my way to long gun, and raw hide. A beer in each, then to de javu. I like this place. But there is still tilac and baccara which are my favorites. Get to cowboy 2. Worst bar on earth. But I am drunk and the mamasan drags me in. Long story short I have another 10 beers there mayhbe and but the whole place drinks and dance on the stage, and smoke indoors. Basically fuck myself. Bill is 16, 000 its not wrong I really was that stupid. So much for taking a girl home that night. The ugly mamsan is so drunk too she is trying t stick her tongue down my throat and I am pushing her away. She want to come home with me. 500 bhat. I would not do this woman if you gave me a million dollars. Stumble out but some chicken and rice which tastes like heaven walked home and got my sorry ass into bed. Fuck 17 hours in BKK and not 1 lay.
Day 2. Eden club.
Like the idea. Also my first 3 some. Got there had a beer. Feeling like shit from the night before but must champion on. Hve a litre of water and am feeling much better. At eden at 3 was the only one inside at the bar. Then another 2 guys walked in, then a 3. So now I'm calculating. If each guy takes 2 girls. That means there are 6 girls going with these guys, so I better make my choice fast otherwise the good ones will go. Girls line up. On the left of center the do anal, on the right they do standard. I pick the best girl I can see first and she is an 7/10. Have to say I was a bit disappointed with the lineup. Anyways she points to her friend for the 3 some and thank god her friend is probably the next best looking. And off we go. I kind of feel sorry that the other guys were left the not so nice. We go up a couple of floors. Into the room. Smoke and beer. Showerd by girl1 and dried off by girl 2. Then on to the bed and girl 1 is starting to give me a BBBJ and some rimming. Girl 2is done with her shower and comes and continues the BBBJ while girl 1 rims some more. Then I ask girl 2 to sit on my face for a nice meal. She tastes pretty good. Then girl 2climbs aboard for cowgirl while she kisses girl 1. Shit this is getting comfusing. Then I do one of them in doggy while she east the other one out and when I'm ready to burst I do it on her ass. And it is a glorious sight to see. We then shower. Back to the bed for a massage by both. Horrible. Then flip over and they start to wake mr johnson up again. Then they ask in I want to watch them fuck eachother. Yes please. Strap on comes on and while one is fucking the other. The one being fucked is giving me a BJ. Nice. Then I feel like getting in on the action. And I go behind the girl with the strap on and slide into her. Lovely. This is a 3 some I guess. I'm fucking the girl who is fucking the girl. I'm getting ready to come and I get them both to get on their knees. I want to come on both their faces. But end up comming on the one I chose's mouuth. Then to the shower. Then I realise that the girl I chose looks kind of like my cousins girlfriend. Hhhmmm naughty me.
Overview.
Girl 1 7/10.
Girl 2 6/10.
Action 7/10 or both (sad realisation I am not into 3 somes) not that I would deny it if it happened to me outside mongering. Wishful thinking.
Cost 4500 3900 for girls, rest for drinks.
Later realised that there is a deal. 2 girls for 2500. I got fucked again. Haha.
Had some dinner and felt much better. Met a friend and went to bilboard in nana. Nice shows. One reall hottie. Left at 1am and t soi cowboi. This tim going to sip the place from te pevious nit and only hit the favorites. Get to baccara and go upsair. 1 smoke and 1 ber and I'm out. Te place was almost empty. All the god girls gone. Te to shark next do. And get stuck the eyeing 3 girls. Spend about 3 grand on too much alchol. 2 k on tipping, and take 1 girl home. Get to the hotel and breeze past recepton. Not an eyelid batted. In for a shower and onto the bed. 1 viagra taken to counter the affecs of the alcohol. I first start by going down on her and nom nm noming my way for a while. My is she a loud little one. Then she can take no more and keeps telling me to boom boom. Sh is very cute. Kind of remings me of the character amelie. We kiss passionatly. Very passionatly, she is looking deep deep int my eyes. Thenon with the condondom and in missionary. Wo she rally is a loud one. And sh I nicely tight. This position at different angles for a while then int doggy where we kee at it but the viagra is keeping me rock hard, but the alcohol and lac of sleep is making me tired I can't come. So I pull out and tell her I can't. She says no worries, we will try in the morning. I collapse next to her and she snuggles in very very tightly into my arms, her eyes looking into mine, and she looks like she is tearing up. We keep cuddling. And we dift I and out of sleep. Kissing while awake and cuddling while sleeping. Then 2 hours later I get hard again, and I am gently stroking her, I can she she is responding nicely. Then slip my hand down and damn she is soaking wet. Rub her quite a bit. And we are spooning. I guess it gets to a point where she can't tke any more and grabs me and slides me in as she lets out a big ghasp. She then starts moving her hips. I guess I am also a bit worked up because I completely forgot about the condom. Then we switch to missionary. And we are even more passionate this round. Deep eye staring and loving strokes. This goes on for a while a long while and she is loving it. Then I pull out of her and come all over her body to stop me from cumming inside her. Use a towel and I wipe her off, and once again collapse next to her. She cuddles me and kisses me more and more. I am done. After about 3 minutes of coddling she sticks her head beneath the sheets and is inspecting my package and rubbing it gently. I guess because the viagra is still having its effect on me and since I only just came I was sporting a semi. Which she then looks satisfyed with and climbs aboard pushing me back into her and starts grinding me. She really wanted to get off I guess. 2 minutes later she collapses onto me in a heap of sweat. Think she liked it. And we coddle and kiss for about an hour. She has tears in her eyes. And knows I have to work in a couple hours. So she tells me she is going to go. It is be now 7. 30 I get up while she is getting ready to leave. I am handing her 5k for the night and she refuses to take it. I am shocked. She knows I am leaving the next day and askes me to see her after my work. We exchange numbers. I think she really wanted to spend the day with me. As she walked out I force her to take the money.
I go to sleep for a cople of hours. Wake up get my work done. Go to annies and have a soapy with 36. I like her naughty look. Into the tub for the soapy BBBJ action, then on to the bed for massage and round 2. I eat he out and she sucks me off agan. I am fine with ths bcause now I am cumming for the 6t time in 24 hours. I am spent. Later in the evenig drop by shark and say good by to my dear who ater exhanging numbers calleed my 8 times. She was so happy when I walked in. And was tearing while sitting next to me. I gave paid her barfine for the night plus gave her 2000 and left with the promise to keep in touch. I'm not so sure if that is a good idea.
Annies girl
36.
Look 7. 5/10.
Body 8. 5/10.
BBBJ 8/10.
Attitude 9/10.
Soapy massage 6. 5/10 my last soapy at annies setthe bar at 10/10.
My girl.
Look 8/10 cute. Not beautiful but cute.
Body 8/10 to nice and tight could have had slightly bigger tits. And I prefer smaller tits.
Attitude 9. 5/10 I guess she was over eager with the calling after.
Sex 10/10 making love as opposed to sex.
Bangkok trip sucess
This was a long report I'm sorry. And very crass. I'm sorry. I'm normally more poetic thank matter of fact. But I'm in a rush.
Adios till next time.
I hope the rainbow 2, 3.4 change attitude. I'm a big spender. So don't pigeon hole races. And fuck you for now rainbow management.
Ill give them 1 more chance on my next visit.
Finallly I'm tempted by lady boys. Not because I'm tempted by lady boys, but because I saw some who were serioualy beautiful women. That doesn't make me gay right. Anyway I'm not that adventurous.
Stay safe and play safe.
Kkreeac
Agreed Tony. The attitudes in BKK have become awful over the past 10 years. Yes, the women over here are far prettier, but they take materialism to an entirely new level. They only "warm" up when they think it will get them somewhere, and it is not just us Farangs that have to deal with this. The Thais dudes do as well.
In the West you will find a woman who will contribute more than her snatch to the relationship.
Vince, if and when you go out on a date with a gal here ask her what she is bringing to table besides sex. Most of us are bringing an estate of some value, and hey, I am not going to take care of a gal. Why should I? Renting is fine, but to join in a union with a gal who has nothing and will bleed ya dry is she can. No thanks!Right on! Although if you want materialism in spades, hang with a few VN ladies for a while.
Whenever anybody mentions "relationships" with BGs, I always ask the same thing. What do they bring to the party? A pretty body and companionship are nice, but if that's all, it's going to wear thin rather quickly. Personally, I gave up on that nonsense a couple of years ago and started associating with middle class ladies. What a world of difference. Education, English fluency (relatively speaking) , a "real" job, their own money, good families that don't consider a farang a walking ATM. What's not to like? The advantages over their Western sisters, IMHO, are generally better looks and more "feminine" behavior. Most guys like women to be women, not men with boobs.
BGs are fine, in the proper context. But why would anyone wish to hang around one every day?
i don't agree with your assessment on western women! the only difference is asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, i don't think there's any difference between the two groups. on a brief visit back to my home, i was exiting walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. how often does one get that in non p4p venues in thailand? i'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi i like you. you lub me? want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming thai girls are hahaha.
on a different note, i was in the silom area the other day decided grab a bite to eat at carl's jr. i thought this was the strangest place in all of bkk to put a burger joint in the middle of a little tokyo rld, but whatever. lol the ideal spot to sit is at the window in front and you can look at the hustle and bustle outside, and of course see the girls with their new boyfriend in tow, many nice girls here, does anyone know the price? i finish eating a carl's catch fish sandwich (highly recommended!) and decide to get a blowjob at star of light nearby, which had some excellent review. i find it and there's a few girls outside, very average looking (to put it kindly) and i open the door and walk in and was met by an awful smell, holy shit it was putrid! the room was decrepit and there was a cum bucket on the floor nearby. i peeked around the corner and some very average looking girls sitting on the couch with a blanket, they said you want blow job? it was grimy as hell and made a nana short time room look like the bellagio in las vegas hahaha. i said, no thanks and left.you should have tried! its not a resort, they are not all beauties, but the girls definitely know their job and that on a world class level.
mike
Crocodilexp
04-24-13, 02:39
Yes, the women over here are far prettier, but they take materialism to an entirely new level. They only "warm" up when they think it will get them somewhere, and it is not just us Farangs that have to deal with this. The Thais dudes do as well.
In the West you will find a woman who will contribute more than her snatch to the relationship.
True with bargirls, but blatant materialism is hardly a characteristic of regular Thai girls... unless you position yourself as a sponsor (a situation a much higher percentage of Thai girls than Western girls are willing to seek).
For those who speak some Thai, look for a regular Thai GF of similar age and class, try to be presentable, and don't throw silly money around, I find Thai girls less materialistic than those in the west. Of course, if you hook up with a girl from a poor background who's looking for any and all Farang they can get as a meal ticket... you get exactly that. Many Farang go for this, and it's not a bad deal for some. Another category of materialistic girls are the trophy women looking for a sponsor (most Thais go for this type and complain).
Outside of these two categories there are plenty of decent middle-class girls, who don't see their snatch / looks as their most valuable resource / skill. They have plenty to contribute to a relationship, including paying part of the expenses (although no woman actually likes a poor/stingy BF, so the guy still pays ~70% especially if his salary is higher).
I think the skewed impression of Thai girls comes from the fact that most girls actively looking for Farang are in the materialistic category. The truly good Thai girls are not averse to a relationship with a Farang (we have both pros and cons), but don't specifically seek us out, it takes some work to get to them, and they tend to want a generally good, reliable guy (usually that excludes tourists, and for expats speaking Thai is a big plus, even if they do speak English).
Most women in the West (USA specifically) seem to just want their 'gina itch scratched, steady, reliable guys don't do well at all (ignored until it's time to trap the sucker for marriage). They'd rather be screwing a bad boys who give them instant tingles until they're well in their 30s.
True with bargirls, but blatant materialism is hardly a characteristic of regular Thai girls. Unless you position yourself as a sponsor (a situation a much higher percentage of Thai girls than Western girls are willing to seek).
For those who speak some Thai, look for a regular Thai GF of similar age and class, try to be presentable, and don't throw silly money around, I find Thai girls less materialistic than those in the west. Of course, if you hook up with a girl from a poor background who's looking for any and all Farang they can get as a meal ticket. You get exactly that. Many Farang go for this, and it's not a bad deal for some. Another category of materialistic girls are the trophy women looking for a sponsor (most Thais go for this type and complain).
Outside of these two categories there are plenty of decent middle-class girls, who don't see their snatch / looks as their most valuable resource / skill. They have plenty to contribute to a relationship, including paying part of the expenses (although no woman actually likes a poor / stingy BF, so the guy still pays 70% especially if his salary is higher).
I think the skewed impression of Thai girls comes from the fact that most girls actively looking for Farang are in the materialistic category. The truly good Thai girls are not averse to a relationship with a Farang (we have both pros and cons) , but don't specifically seek us out, it takes some work to get to them, and they tend to want a generally good, reliable guy (usually that excludes tourists, and for expats speaking Thai is a big plus, even if they do speak English).
Most women in the West (USA specifically) seem to just want their 'gina itch scratched, steady, reliable guys don't do well at all (ignored until it's time to trap the sucker for marriage). They'd rather be screwing a bad boys who give them instant tingles until they're well in their 30s.Materialism and Envy are the #1 things in the girls I have met. Especially in BKK off the dating sites. The envy thing is huge I think. They go on Facebook and try to outdo each other with their photos and comments.
Yes, some bring salary to the table. But it sure as shit is not much compared to what many of us make.
Bottom line it is all about them taking care of themselves and their families. They want your money and you (farang) and your family play second fiddle.
I would never marry a Thai girl.
Materialism and Envy are the #1 things in the girls I have met. Especially in BKK off the dating sites. The envy thing is huge I think. They go on Facebook and try to outdo each other with their photos and comments.
Yes, some bring salary to the table. But it sure as shit is not much compared to what many of us make.
Bottom line it is all about them taking care of themselves and their families. They want your money and you (farang) and your family play second fiddle.
I would never marry a Thai girl.You are clearly not hanging out with mainstream Thai women. Which is fine, if that's what you choose. No criticism here, but don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan when low class women exhibit low class tendencies.
In the last couple of years I have met several mainstream, middle-class Thai ladies. Absolutely ZERO of their families would even consider accepting (let alone asking) money from an outsider. And absolutely ZERO of these ladies would allow some deadbeat shirttail relative to sponge off their BF.
BTW, any Thai girl on a dating site that will jump into bed with a farang she just met is not mainstream. She's done that sort of thing many times before. The women who interest me are in their late 30s. Early 40s. I have been very surprised at how few boyfriends these women have had in their lives.
Yes, their salaries are lower than western salaries, but that's not a fair comparison. The fact that they have a good job and a good, by Thai standards, salary, speaks volumes about their work ethic and character.
You are clearly not hanging out with mainstream Thai women. Which is fine, if that's what you choose. No criticism here, but don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan when low class women exhibit low class tendencies.
In the last couple of years I have met several mainstream, middle-class Thai ladies. Absolutely ZERO of their families would even consider accepting (let alone asking) money from an outsider. And absolutely ZERO of these ladies would allow some deadbeat shirttail relative to sponge off their BF.
BTW, any Thai girl on a dating site that will jump into bed with a farang she just met is not mainstream. She's done that sort of thing many times before. The women who interest me are in their late 30s. Early 40s. I have been very surprised at how few boyfriends these women have had in their lives.
Yes, their salaries are lower than western salaries, but that's not a fair comparison. The fact that they have a good job and a good, by Thai standards, salary, speaks volumes about their work ethic and character.Sorry dude, you are wrong in my case.
These are women who work for major corporations, have cars, and apts.
Which is why they are materialistic. Because they have had a taste of it and want more.
But these girls are attractive and successful.
You meet girls in their 30's and 40's who have rarely had a BF? You don't know much about Thai culture and are extremely naive if you believe that. But if it is true, I guess yours must be pretty homely and unattractive. But hey, they have a good work ethic so you are happy I guess.
Yes I agree, many of those desperate ones for you to find in Thailand.
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04-24-13, 04:00
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Franciscass
04-24-13, 04:26
You are clearly not hanging out with mainstream Thai women. Which is fine, if that's what you choose. No criticism here, but don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan when low class women exhibit low class tendencies.
In the last couple of years I have met several mainstream, middle-class Thai ladies. Absolutely ZERO of their families would even consider accepting (let alone asking) money from an outsider. And absolutely ZERO of these ladies would allow some deadbeat shirttail relative to sponge off their BF.
BTW, any Thai girl on a dating site that will jump into bed with a farang she just met is not mainstream. She's done that sort of thing many times before. The women who interest me are in their late 30s. Early 40s. I have been very surprised at how few boyfriends these women have had in their lives.
Yes, their salaries are lower than western salaries, but that's not a fair comparison. The fact that they have a good job and a good, by Thai standards, salary, speaks volumes about their work ethic and character.It'a way too simplistic to catoragise women into low class high class mainstream and whatever the opposite of that is. It is not black or white. Generally speaking most Thai girls not all I agree that are in the P4P life don't have many options unless they want to work for minimum wage and even then they need a high school education which not all of them have. Even graduate level can expect no more than 15, 000 starting. Consequently wanting to meet a farang who will take care of them and their family while it can be considered as exploiting the farang equally I know of several situations where this works perfectly well for both parties particularly where the girl and her family are nice people and greatly appreciate the help they are getting. Mostly when things go wrong the problem I believe lies in the innate cultural differences between East and West. Relationships and this is true for all social strata begin to flounder when both parties discover they really have nothing in common. I despair when I constantly read "they are only after your money". Sure that's part of the equation but only because you are the one with the money and they are the one without and if getting paid for sex is what they do and paying for sex is what we do then of course money is central but they are not all cold hearted Jezebels with a mean streak. That said the vast majority of single Thai women whether "mainstream' 'or not while they may not openly ask for such will gladly accept gifts and if truth be told will expect them.
Tony Hoeprano
04-24-13, 05:21
The Thai girls at 7-11 think your shirt is nice, but can speak the English words to tell you.
Carl's? Where is it I love that place.
SOL. That is what makes it a great and different experience for me. The filth, smell and grit. Not for everyone I guess.Two in BKK. One on Soi 24, its attached to a hotel, I think Davis Hotel. Other one is at Soi Thaniya right by Sala Daeng BTS.
Member #4414
04-24-13, 05:28
SOL. That is what makes it a great and different experience for me. The filth, smell and grit. .Rather like one of those dark, grimy saloons that Clint Eastwood strolls into on a high desert plain.
I must admit, I'm tempted!
NeverGetsOld
04-24-13, 06:06
I take offence to being called a pimp daddy. All my stories are P4P. I offer them a 7 baht bottle of water before they come up in my room and blow me.
Mr Enternational
04-24-13, 07:12
One thing is for sure, it appears that there are as many opinions on what a "mainstream" Thai woman is as there are people on this board with assholes. As for my experience a mainstream Thai woman has been a woman with a non-sex industry job who is not after your money and does not ask for or accept financial help from a man. She offers to pay for some things when you go out together. She is not materialistic and has not had many boyfriends. Just because they didn't jump into bed with YOU right away does not mean they will not do it with another guy. And just because she does it with another guy does not mean she has done it many times before. A lot of times it has to do with a type of timing that you can neither predict nor control. You just have to chalk it up to being in the right place at the right time when the stars decided to align.
Case in point: I met a chick from tagged a couple of years ago. She was educated and had a job. We met in Carrefour and ate lunch at Subway. After that I called her a couple of times and it seemed she was brushing me off. I stopped trying and I never heard back from her, so I figured she didn't like me. Everybody is not going to like everybody. No harm, no foul.
In the middle of last month I was eating breakfast at my usual spot. A girl eating alone, two tables in front of me, looked like her but I could not be sure. I mouthed to her,"Why you never call me?" She didn't understand and called me over to her table. I had to remind her who I was. I wanted to get back to my breakfast so I told her to call me later. She gave me her basic-ass, unmaterialistic cell phone and told me to put my number into it. I typed the number and gave it back to her. She said,"Oh, your number is already in my phone." Damn from that long ago?
That afternoon she started texting me and I told her to come over. We went back and forth with her asking why I wanted her to come over bla bla bla. She finally came. We chatted for a minute then both got in the bed for a nap. Next thing you know we were fucking like rabbits. We went to sleep, woke up about 8pm, and went outside to our bikes. I told her that I wanted her to come eat with me. She left her bike and we went and ate. We came back and she got on her bike and went home.
That is just one story out of countless. Another girl who I met in a disco came over when she got off work the day after I met her. She was educated and worked in her family's business. I wouldn't be surprised if she had been a virgin before. We had a good time fucking and afterwards she told me she wanted me to teach her things about sex. Aside from this she also wanted to be my girlfriend. I told her that I didn't want a girlfriend. She literally cried and begged and pleaded but I'm not into deceiving anybody. She moved back to Bangkok and soon married an African guy who plays soccer there. They just had a baby two weeks ago. She is very faithful to her man. Whenever I mention naughty things she says she loves her husband and that I did not want her when she was throwing herself at me.
They are all Thai women, but it seems like each Tom, Dick, and Harry on this board is having personal experiences with them that are constant to only themselves and not necessarily experienced by others. Or maybe it is only our expectation and perception that is varying from person to person and causing a particular outcome specific to only ourselves.
Sorry dude, you are wrong in my case.
These are women who work for major corporations, have cars, and apts.
Which is why they are materialistic. Because they have had a taste of it and want more.
But these girls are attractive and successful.
You meet girls in their 30's and 40's who have rarely had a BF? You don't know much about Thai culture and are extremely naive if you believe that. But if it is true, I guess yours must be pretty homely and unattractive. But hey, they have a good work ethic so you are happy I guess.
Yes I agree, many of those desperate ones for you to find in Thailand.Hmm. 500 baht bareback Nana streetwalkers who are attractive and successful? I find that hard to believe. LOL. Methinks your cheap bareback streetwalkers define desperate, no? :D
I will say, unequivocally, that a Thai woman who has had a lot of experience with bonking farang is rarely suitable for a mate, whether or not money was exchanged for the sex. So, if those are who you're hanging with, then your observations about not marrying a Thai girls are correct.
One thing is for sure, it appears that there are as many opinions on what a "mainstream" Thai woman is as there are people on this board with assholes. As for my experience a mainstream Thai woman has been a woman with a non-sex industry job who is not after your money and does not ask for or accept financial help from a man. She offers to pay for some things when you go out together. She is not materialistic and has not had many boyfriends. Just because they didn't jump into bed with YOU right away does not mean they will not do it with another guy. And just because she does it with another guy does not mean she has done it many times before. A lot of times it has to do with a type of timing that you can neither predict nor control. You just have to chalk it up to being in the right place at the right time when the stars decided to align.Your points are very accurate. And I realize there are vast cultural differences between West and East. The Eastern culture uses money in a much different way than the Western. Much of this stems from when women had no real economic opportunities in a strongly male-dominated society.
Now I never said my experiences were reflective of all Thai women, mainstream or otherwise, just as the actions of a bar girl don't represent all Thai women. But, I know what I've seen. As Mr. Goat pointed out in what started this discussion, you have to ask what she brings to the party. So, I was looking for women in that particular age bracket (still young enough to be attractive but not so young that they look like my daughter) , with an education and a career. Sure there are women in that age bracket who are financially successful, and promiscuous. But I do not believe that they are in the majority. Not just based upon my experience, but from what I understand of the culture and religion.
But the overall point I was making was that guys who constantly complain that all Thai women have their hand out, or have relatives who have their hands out, are plainly dealing with some very low class people. Even people with money can be low class (Look at Yingluck!) I have yet to experience that with any of the middle-class Thai ladies I know, and I don't expect it to ever happen. So, if you're tired of ladies who are always demanding money or gold, or who expect you to provide for every relative who wanders into the house, you need to look at a different class of ladies. That's all I'm saying.
Now for the doom and gloomer! If you want to have fun with prostitutes you cannot assume you are better than them- you are not! So they only have grade school edukation, tha doesn't make them inferior to you. I bet the girls bad attitude you encounter have a lot to do with the condescending attitutde you may give off.Completely agree. I've always had good times with BGs, and it's as you say: you don't look down on them and treat them like humans and not pieces of meat.
Having said that, I finally got bored with them. This last trip I had some free time and visited some BGs in Nana and Patpong, including a long-time fave at Pink Panther. The problem was, after about 30 seconds, we were out of things to say, except for my fave because we can discuss old times. I'm tired of "Where you flom," "How many baby." No criticism of the girls, it's the way it is. They have minimal education and it's hard to find a BG who can carry on an intelligent conversation. I've found them, they're just rare.
So, a BG can be a lot of fun, and some can even provide a good bedroom experience. But marrying one? Guys who do deserve what they get.
I take offence to being called a pimp daddy. All my stories are P4P. I offer them a 7 baht bottle of water before they come up in my room and blow me.That is generous. I believe you take the empty bottle back to get the empty refund, do you?
Phordphan and the 'puss. Which gives a more acurate description of thai girls. LOL.
I got to go with phordphan.
After seeing the girls Luvpuss goes for I doubt he is hanging with mainstream thai girls. LOL.
Now for the doom and gloomer! If you want to have fun with prostitutes you cannot assume you are better than them- you are not! So they only have grade school edukation, tha doesn't make them inferior to you. I bet the girls bad attitude you encounter have a lot to do with the condescending attitutde you may give off.Harold, I am all for having a good sesh with a working girl, but a relationship? Nah. And no the attitudes are already there and getting worse, along with the looks. Again, the economy is such that any gal with half a brain and a so-so work ethic can support herself without wh*ring. Most women will take 20k legit over 50+k wh*ring.
Never said they were "inferior." You are putting words in my mouth. I said, most bring little to the table. Sex is not enough when it comes to a relationship, especially when they expect you to take care of their parasitic family. There are lots of gals out there in their early to mid-30s with degrees and who are not looking for a host to support their families.
13 years ago most all working girls were looking for a husband. Methinks that the lookers these days want nothing of the sort. They are making loads of cash from their johns and many have dudes sending them lots of money from overseas. Amazing how daft some of these guys are.
Asian guys get it; working girls are working girls and that is great, but you don't marry one. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
I treat working girls well and expect the same in return. Unfortunately that reciprocation is getting harder to find. I am amazed at how rude many gals are in gogo bars these days. They pull stuff they would never attempt on a Thai guy. Listen to them talking (if you know a little Thai and Isaan it helps) and you will see how little they think about most of their customers. It is all "buy me drink, pay bar, or I go."
It'a way too simplistic to catoragise women into low class high class mainstream and whatever the opposite of that is. It is not black or white. Generally speaking most Thai girls not all I agree that are in the P4P life don't have many options unless they want to work for minimum wage and even then they need a high school education which not all of them have. Even graduate level can expect no more than 15, 000 starting. Consequently wanting to meet a farang who will take care of them and their family while it can be considered as exploiting the farang equally I know of several situations where this works perfectly well for both parties particularly where the girl and her family are nice people and greatly appreciate the help they are getting. Mostly when things go wrong the problem I believe lies in the innate cultural differences between East and West. Relationships and this is true for all social strata begin to flounder when both parties discover they really have nothing in common. I despair when I constantly read "they are only after your money". Sure that's part of the equation but only because you are the one with the money and they are the one without and if getting paid for sex is what they do and paying for sex is what we do then of course money is central but they are not all cold hearted Jezebels with a mean streak. That said the vast majority of single Thai women whether "mainstream' 'or not while they may not openly ask for such will gladly accept gifts and if truth be told will expect them.15k baht is the low end these days and if a Uni grad hooks up with a Thai guy who is a recent grad and he is making 20k or so, they have plenty to support themselves and purchase a started condo.
I would say that cultural differences do make a difference but socio-economic class differences cause as many problems. Coming from a similar class helps a relationship along. No doubt.
Like you, I know several couples who fit your above description, but they are in the minority.
About money, remove it from the equation and then what do you have? Yes, some will stay with you if you fall on hard times, but still, I think they are in the minority. Given equal circumstances most all Thai women would rather have a relationship with someone from their own culture. Truth be told, sometimes I would as well, especially when it comes to the issue of language. I know some very fluent English speaking Thais (where English is the second language) , and no matter how fluent they are they still lack the ability to pick subtleties, humor, sarcasm, etc. Contrast that to a friend who has a highly educated gal from the 'Pines who gets and can make jokes, and you can take her to an art house film and discuss it with her afterwards. So yes, having things in common is important, and some of those things I would like to have in common with a gal here are really very difficult to find.
Seaham1900
04-24-13, 08:55
That is generous. I believe you take the bottle back to get the empty refund, do you?Nay he's a lot more generous than you give him credit for. I'm sure he gives her the bottle to get the refund.
Completely agree. I've always had good times with BGs, and it's as you say: you don't look down on them and treat them like humans and not pieces of meat.The problem was, after about 30 seconds, we were out of things to say, except for my fave because we can discuss old times. I'm tired of "Where you flom," "How many baby." No criticism of the girls, it's the way it is. They have minimal education and it's hard to find a BG who can carry on an intelligent conversation. I've found them, they're just rare.That is when ST comes to help.
I am not a big lover of ST but on the other hand, LT eventually includes some sort of talking and that is when one gets bored. Conversations at the bar can still keep a certain pace, with jokes, sort of flirting tocheck the chemistry, a bit of fun etc. But once in the room. Even if one does not want to elaborate the world economy some sort of talks have to take place.
Is that the reason why girls switch on TV and watch it, to avoid the need of talking (as they can't)?
Ok since I know this report is going to be lost into the black hole that is any of the Thailand threads I'm going to make it short and sweet. Maybe not sweet. You be the judge of that.
Day 1.
Landed at noon on the 19th and got to my hotel Citadines on soi 23 at about 2. Took what was supposed to be a short nap. Got up at 7. Oops there goes my late afternoon session. Fuck that was a bad start. Get up and change and head to nana plaza. Have a couple of drinks at stumble inn, with the company of a lady. She was nice but I'd say a 6/10. Then head into the soi. I had a list made up of the places I'd go to. Got it from another website by a guy who does a great short review of nights in Bangkok if you were to do it on a red eye, and has a blog about guest friendly hotels. Thanks buddy. Entering the plaza to the right walked up one level. Mandarin 1 and 2. Waste of time. Up another floor. Nobody in carnival. Back down a floor and around to dc10. Guy seems to not let me in. I don't bother. Stick my head into spankys and angel witch nothing of interest. Go back up and look into billboard. Girls in tub but nothing looking hot. Lasvegas is closed. All the way down. To playschool. I like the place. Have a couple of beers, girls best here so far. Then to rainbow 1. Not allowed in. Members. WTF. Ok I move to lollypop, no interest. Then red lips, and pretty lady, a beer there each. Not bad but not great. Now the rounds are done and I can go to the top on the list to pick up some nice ladies. Ohh yeah holly word was night if I remember correctly. I go to rainbow 2 not let in. Members. So walk up to rainbow 4. Members. Ok now I'm a little fucking annoyed with these thai guy mother fucking racist bouncers. I can be racist too you useless pricks. (I'm indian by the way) I was so hoping to pick up a girl from rainbow 4 or 2 which I remember from my last trip were the best places to go in nana. Fuck it. I always thought soi cowboy was better in terms of atmosphere and girls. And never feltany racism there.
Head to soi cowboy with one of the few honest meter going taxi drivers in BKK. On the main road side now. Make my way to long gun, and raw hide. A beer in each, then to de javu. I like this place. But there is still tilac and baccara which are my favorites. Get to cowboy 2. Worst bar on earth. But I am drunk and the mamasan drags me in. Long story short I have another 10 beers there mayhbe and but the whole place drinks and dance on the stage, and smoke indoors. Basically fuck myself. Bill is 16, 000 its not wrong I really was that stupid. So much for taking a girl home that night. The ugly mamsan is so drunk too she is trying t stick her tongue down my throat and I am pushing her away. She want to come home with me. 500 bhat. I would not do this woman if you gave me a million dollars. Stumble out but some chicken and rice which tastes like heaven walked home and got my sorry ass into bed. Fuck 17 hours in BKK and not 1 lay.
I hope the rainbow 2, 3.4 change attitude. I'm a big spender. So don't pigeon hole races. And fuck you for now rainbow management.
Ill give them 1 more chance on my next visit.
Finallly I'm tempted by lady boys. Not because I'm tempted by lady boys, but because I saw some who were serioualy beautiful women. That doesn't make me gay right. Anyway I'm not that adventurous.
Stay safe and play safe.
KkreeacSo it seems gogo bars are definitely getting to be off limits for Indians (read my report. One page back). Though Baccara didn't deny entry, the good service and the smiles from the best girls were reserved for the Japanese clients. The Pattaya syndrome (of walking street gogo's denying entry to Indians) coming to Bangkok as well now. Sigh. Guess it is better to pick up FL's from discos etc than from gogo's. Thanks for the report BTW.
Mr Enternational
04-24-13, 14:07
13 years ago most all working girls were looking for a husband. Methinks that the lookers these days want nothing of the sort. They are making loads of cash from their johns and many have dudes sending them lots of money from overseas. Amazing how daft some of these guys are.It is truly amazing. I just got this email from a wingman (I added what is in parentheses) :
"Dude, her friend (mamasan) in Halo has somebody sending money already. Wasn't even 3 days later (from when the boyfriend (who had been sending money) broke up with her). These guys are rich. I want to know where they work and what they do."
Hmm. 500 baht bareback Nana streetwalkers who are attractive and successful? I find that hard to believe. LOL. Methinks your cheap bareback streetwalkers define desperate, no? .
I will say, unequivocally, that a Thai woman who has had a lot of experience with bonking farang is rarely suitable for a mate, whether or not money was exchanged for the sex. So, if those are who you're hanging with, then your observations about not marrying a Thai girls are correct.You can attack the street workers if you want. They happen to be some of the nicest girls I have met in Thailand. Most have families and are just trying to make a living. I also find that they speak much better English than an office worker.
The Nana SW usually run 1000 B, not 500. But I know you would not know about that because you stick to the 40 year old dough faced office workers. That is fine for you.
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Linkwray666
04-24-13, 21:10
Ok since I know this report is going to be lost into the black hole that is any of the Thailand threads I'm going to make it short and sweet. Maybe not sweet. You be the judge of that.
Day 1.Nice report, thank you. I find the Eden information especially interesting, current Eden reviews do not come along often here.
Later realised that there is a deal. 2 girls for 2500.Can you give more details on the 2 for 2500 deal? Is it for a shorter time period than the normal deal, any limits on which girls you can choose etc?
Hmmm, the website says "service for the couple" is B2500, I am guessing this means if you bring your own lady you can get a single Eden girl to join you for 2500. Is this the deal you are referring to?
NeverGetsOld
04-25-13, 03:39
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Paul Kausch
04-25-13, 08:59
But please stop saying there are 8s or 9s to be found.A numeric rating of a SW is meaningless without context. What is a 1 and what is a 10? Is the 10 comparable to the winner of the 2012 Miss Universe title? Or is a 10 the best looking girl you're likely to find in a Bangkok MP? This is an issue in measurement theory, a branch of applied mathematics. To have a useful equal interval scale (such as a 1 to 10 rating scale of physical appearance) it is minimally necessary to define the end points of the scale, and preferably the midpoint as well: a 1 looks like this; a 5 looks like this; a 10 looks like this. In the absence of these anchors all you can conclude is that an 8 is more attractive than a 4. In the absence of context my 8 may be too unattractive to meet your minimal standard for a woman worth fucking.
Rating the beauty of a woman is compounded by cultural differences and personal preferences. A bubble butt is a very desirable feature on a woman in some cultures, and some woman in these culture will have butt augmentations. Personally I like a woman with a smaller and firm ass. But when you read the previous sentence are you certain you know what I mean by a smaller ass? A woman another man describes as having a gorgeous bubble butt I might think has a grossly fat ass. A woman I think has a nice sized firm ass the next man may think has a skinny ass not worth fucking.
I've rarely seen a woman in one of the beer bars that I would rate higher than a 6. But a man who procured his ladies exclusively from beer bars might look at a group of ladies I think are all bunch of 4s and rate some of them as a 4 others as a 6 and some as an 8. Perhaps he's more experienced at judging women who fall within a certain range of beauty and is able to make fine discrimination. Maybe 8s are to be found in a Bangkok beer bar, but because I spend very little time in beer bars I don't have enough opportunities to run into the occasional 8.
I find it most useful when a report describes the woman and how hot the guy found her: "she was pretty hot, kind of short, an okay face, good sized tits and nice big ass." Better yet is when a report says,"She actually looks better than her picture on the website." An 8 tells me next to nothing. What does it mean? That she looks like one of the women who didn't make it beyond the regional competitions for the Miss Colombia title? I have a buddy who occasionally sees a lady in her mid-twenties in Medellin. I couple of years ago she was a regional finalist for Miss Colombia. I'd describe her as a drop dead gorgeous young lady with fantastic boobs and an ass to die for. But perhaps the fact that she didn't have a nice big bubble butt kept her from advancing to the finals.
Western787
04-25-13, 09:47
Hotel 2 minutes fromm NEP for 17, 000 for 30 days. Recp. Gave me 1000 discount due to no window when I mentioned I wanted one. LOL.
Best wif-fi since my return to BKK the last 10 months. Can watch japanes porn, and MLB baseball and NBA basketball.Sounds like a good bargain. However, that particular hotel also doubles as a short term hotel, right?
1. You are being kinda racist thinking taxi drivers are scammers. Most I've dealt w. No problem.
4. 16, 000 for 10 drinks. No wonder mamasan want deep throat you. Those arab bars may have a concept that works fine and dandy. There always new ones coming to town, like barnum and bailey said. Might as well take advantage of them.There was no need to quote the whole post.
So it seems gogo bars are definitely getting to be off limits for Indians (read my report. One page back). Though Baccara didn't deny entry, the good service and the smiles from the best girls were reserved for the Japanese clients. The Pattaya syndrome (of walking street gogo's denying entry to Indians) coming to Bangkok as well now. Sigh. Guess it is better to pick up FL's from discos etc than from gogo's. Thanks for the report BTW.By the way the guy behaved no wonder why some guys get a no-no to enter a place.
The one that welcomed him sucked him hell of a lot of money for a few beers. No wonder!
So it seems gogo bars are definitely getting to be off limits for Indians (read my report. One page back). Though Baccara didn't deny entry, the good service and the smiles from the best girls were reserved for the Japanese clients. The Pattaya syndrome (of walking street gogo's denying entry to Indians) coming to Bangkok as well now. Sigh. Guess it is better to pick up FL's from discos etc than from gogo's. Thanks for the report BTW.To be honest like my last time in BKK I have never had a race problem in soi cowboy. I failed to mention that before I re-met the girl from shark I did go to baccara again, and there were lots of pretty ladies, and quite a few did approach me. The night I went before I figure all the good ones had left. But I have not experienced problems with approaching and being approached by women at all in soi cowboy.
Bionicman. I am not a ****. I knew exactly how much money I have and how much I could afford to spend. And yes I had a few beers, but no they charged me for the 3 bottles of whiskey I opened, thats where the price came from. Also I do not act obnoxiously in any place I go to. And everywhere I've been has always welcomed me back regardless of my spending. And just because you have 4000+ posts doesn't mean everyone but you is a ****. I personally think you are an ass for insinuating that my behavior is the reason indians are not allowed in. My take on the situation is that majority of indians come to watch with one beer as opposed to take out. Which is why they are not the preferred clientele.
Finally to the other guy who said I was being racist about thai taxi drivers. I wasnt. I think the majority of taxi drivers the world over are cheats. Thats just how things are. In BKK after 11 I found that very very few turn on the meter. I was lucky enough that the first one I got into did turn it on. Which is contrary to my other late night experiences with taxi's in BKK.
To sum up. If you are indian soi cowboy is friendlier. And in my opinion has a better vibe and better looking women. Don't be phased. Just be decent, and good will happen to you. But if you are one of the smelly indians who don't buy drinks (if you can fly to BKK, you can afford proper deodorant and cologne). Might as well stay home because you are ruining our reputation abroad.
On a final note. Aside from the prices I paid. Looking at the average st and lt prices, I think BKK is starting to rival other western countries. Time to seek out Yangon and Vietnam. Or the cheap eastern european girls in london.
Till next time I hope everyone enjoys BKK.
Stay safe and play safe.
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Despicable Me
04-26-13, 06:39
well said. but i bet ecunter would love some butter in his buttocks, sound like a kinky thang, ok lets get freaky flunky!
patpong or should that read pisspong.
went to meet a client this evening in silom, so have our meeting i head over to patpong, omg! how dire is this place now. it was like backpackers v's koreans, i mean that is all i saw. first stop was sol, but no frigging way, the lovely lassies outside were all eating somtam, so no way was i getting fire dick, so went to a cheeky little soapy i know round the corner called tanika (or something like that) not far from rose bar. went upstairs and saw a lovely choice of fine fillies.
been here many times and always paid 1000 baht for 90 minutes full hardcore fun. it must have new management as they quoted be 2, 000 which i said mai dai. trick is to get up and walk away, but they soon say "ok, wot you pay" just type 1000 baht into their little calculator and off you go with a lady of your choice, oh before you gop to the room, she chants something in thai and hits a wooded cock on a bell, then all the other girs says something, very weird indeed. this place was on a youtube video with same yippon dude that captured [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), sol and dr big jock with his little specs camera, naughty naughty yippon! lol!
now, this place kick annies for quality and price. i mean its the same routine as there but half the price. started of with a nice all over soapie massage, tits in my ass, tits in my face, tits everywhere. after that into the tub for a nice gentle massage, teasing little minx got me so hard. off to the bed for another massage and bbbj. 69, a lot and i mean a lot of ass munching was going on here, both me and her. wowzerrs! then on with jonnie and wham bam thank you mam.
tipped her 500 baht as it was a dam good 90 minutes. total cost was 1000 baht for mamasan. 100 baht for my sprite and 500 baht for her, total 1600 baht and left have very happy and very empty guy. patpong is really a sad place now, but hey, in the words of big arnie " i'll be back!"is this takara massage parlour which has a stairways out front?
Paul Kausch
04-26-13, 09:03
Whta this tells me is you know darn well girls in beer bars are not hot at all. It is not a BEHOLDER thing. Always exceptions-outlyers. LOL. I f you want confirmation go to a beer bar and ask the hottest 1 you see how much for GFE, shit eating, etc.
If she starts at 1000 you know she doesn't think she hot either. LOL.
Among 3 pretty girls there might be an argument who is hottest. Among 3 ugly girls same same there might not be agreement on who is ugliest. But I bet you most men would place the 6 girls in their appropriate category.Then why do some of the guys claim they see 8s at the beer bars? Do you know what they mean by an 8? I sure don't.
Why do the MPs over on Ratchada get so much for some of the sideliners who I personally don't find any more attractive than the better looking girls in the fishbowl. As you might expect the only difference in their appearance is they have fairer skin and look a couple of years younger. We know Asian men will pay large sums of money for these young women.
On various occasions I've been with Black men who will remark that a women I think is just another overweight, average looking blonde with fair skin and blue eyes is attractive. Similarly why do they think a slender black woman I think is hot is too skinny?
Once I was in a bar with a buddy who is Middle Eastern. A drunk lady who I thought was damn ugly came on to me. I ignored her. She started talking to my buddy and suggested the three of us go to her place for a threesome. My buddy started to pester me to go because she had large hanging breasts and large eyes that he found attractive. I didn't even notice her eyes because the rest of her face was so ugly. He later told me that because he came from a culture in which woman wear veils he was drawn to the woman's eyes. He also thought her big sagging boobs made her look very "womanly," whatever that means.
I live fairly close to a high school. I think most of the students attending it range from slightly overweight to obese. I'll sit in a Starbucks not far away and overhear students talking about someone of the opposite sex I think is just another fat teenager as being really cute.
I think there are cultural differences in what is perceived to be an attractive woman. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why I read reports in which guys claim they pick up good looking girls in beer bars. I don't see it, but who am I to tell them the women they find attractive are not when I don't even know what the woman looks like. I can only conclude we have different standards of beauty.
Tony Hoeprano
04-26-13, 09:08
a numeric rating of a sw is meaningless without context. what is a 1 and what is a 10? is the 10 comparable to the winner of the 2012 miss universe title? or is a 10 the best looking girl you're likely to find in a bangkok mp? this is an issue in measurement theory, a branch of applied mathematics. to have a useful equal interval scale (such as a 1 to 10 rating scale of physical appearance) it is minimally necessary to define the end points of the scale, and preferably the midpoint as well: a 1 looks like this; a 5 looks like this; a 10 looks like this. in the absence of these anchors all you can conclude is that an 8 is more attractive than a 4. in the absence of context my 8 may be too unattractive to meet your minimal standard for a woman worth fucking.
i find it most useful when a report describes the woman and how hot the guy found her: "she was pretty hot, kind of short, an okay face, good sized tits and nice big ass." better yet is when a report says,"she actually looks better than her picture on the website." an 8 tells me next to nothing. what does it mean? that she looks like one of the women who didn't make it beyond the regional competitions for the miss colombia title? i have a buddy who occasionally sees a lady in her mid-twenties in medellin. i couple of years ago she was a regional finalist for miss colombia. i'd describe her as a drop dead gorgeous young lady with fantastic boobs and an ass to die for. but perhaps the fact that she didn't have a nice big bubble butt kept her from advancing to the finals.
bringing up some good points here. i don't think the 1-10 system can comprehensively judge a girl's beauty, it's just too narrow a range. you can say a girl who is pretty hot, but maybe a little low class or whatever and judge her an 7 or 8 at face value and that might be a fair enough grade. but match her up against auto show promo girls (just using that as an example, not absolute) and she would be outclassed by a mile. even the less hot promo girl would mop the floor of a typical 7-8 girl on the streets. and where do you class the $15 girls in cambodia and the philippines? they might be an 8 or 9 to a clown who sits all day in his dirty stinky underwear, but if you match those girls up against a hot rb or top tier freelance girl, it would be like secretariat racing a $35, 000 claimer on the first ticket of the daily double at santa anita lol.
if one has to use a numerical value on girls, emulate the beyer speed rating that does a really good job showcasing how fast a horse is on a given track. if anyone knows horse racing and the good ol daily racing form, one look at that beyer speed rating and you generally have a good idea how fast and at what stakes he / she runs at. same system should be applied to girls and is much wider a range than the standard 1-10
Paul Kausch
04-26-13, 22:26
bringing up some good points here. i don't think the 1-10 system can comprehensively judge a girl's beauty, it's just too narrow a range. you can say a girl who is pretty hot, but maybe a little low class or whatever and judge her an 7 or 8 at face value and that might be a fair enough grade. but match her up against auto show promo girls (just using that as an example, not absolute) and she would be outclassed by a mile. even the less hot promo girl would mop the floor of a typical 7-8 girl on the streets. and where do you class the $15 girls in cambodia and the philippines? they might be an 8 or 9 to a clown who sits all day in his dirty stinky underwear, but if you match those girls up against a hot rb or top tier freelance girl, it would be like secretariat racing a $35, 000 claimer on the first ticket of the daily double at santa anita lol.
if one has to use a numerical value on girls, emulate the beyer speed rating that does a really good job showcasing how fast a horse is on a given track. if anyone knows horse racing and the good ol daily racing form, one look at that beyer speed rating and you generally have a good idea how fast and at what stakes he / she runs at. same system should be applied to girls and is much wider a range than the standard 1-10continuing to use measurement theory as a framework for an unnecessarily detailed analysis, what is need is a multi-dimensional scaling system. these require a bit of matrix algebra, but are not too difficult to do now that we have modern computers to perform the countless hours of simple arithmetic calculations required to manipulate large matrices in mulit-dimensional space. each attribute, face, ass, pussy, legs, stomach, tits, skin tone, would receive a rating and these would be combined to calculate an overall physical appearance rating. of course we'd want guys to see the individual components of this score so the ass lovers could hone in on these ladies, same for the tit lovers, etc. then there's the matter of performance. we'd have to evaluate her bj skills and probably apply a weighting coefficient to reflect bare versus covered, cim, cof. ideally we'd want to measure, in centimeters, how deep she swallowed cock, and collect and measure the amount of spit that drooled out of her mouth while doing this. then of course there is the fucking, both pussy and ass, independent ratings on each of the common positions; and we'd want to take the bareback dudes into consideration and again factor in covered versus bare. sluttiness is another attribute as well as the auditory quality of her squeals. and then of course there is context, which probably is largely a function of how much you had to pay. did you pick her up off the street and she only charged 500. did she come from a sukhumvit soapy or was she an expensive sideliner from ratchada. the problem is the model is pretty complicated. and i wouldn't get into whether she does ffm with lesbian action, mmf with dp, gang bangs and [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) (quantity and accuracy of her aim.) that would make it really complicated. the rating system could be created. i'd start by developing a preliminary rating form and circulate it on isg for feedback. no doubt there are things i'm missing that will be immediately obvious to the more depraved members of this forum. it might take a while to complete it on every girl a guy fucks. we'd need hundreds of guys fucking hundreds of girls and even then we wouldn't have enough data. these multivariate analyses require huge data sets to have any validity.
on the other hand, we could spend all the time we waste going through this exercise just fucking the ladies.
i've bookmarked an article on the beyer speed figure to read this weekend. i don't play the ponies so i've never heard of it. but i find this stuff interesting. helps slow down the inevitable advance of the mental decrepitude.
Member #4387
04-26-13, 23:47
Since womens looks and beauty are in the eyes of the beholders and everyone have their own opinion regarding this, it is hard, if not impossible, to do a 1 to 10 women rating system in general. What is possible is to have our own personal rating system and my system works like this (I hereby declare this to be my subjective ratingsystem and this is how it works for me so no need to argue or disagree).
I devide my ratings upon location meaning if I go to Biergarden (BG) I have rather low expectation of the girls in general located on sceene in BG. If I visit Demo, one of the most exclusive hi so nightclubs in BKK and with the best looking females I ever seen in Thailand. In Other venues in BKK where I mostly do my mongering expectations will run from sth between BG and this top noche venue(and maby a tad towards Demo on the upside). My purpose with visiting the diff venues will also come into play(P4P or picking a girl into my regular fleet).
BG I specificaly use for daytime release sessions (ST and 3somes) where my main point is to just get my pipeline cleaned and serviced without any demands of GFE / PSE play whatsoever. With girls from here even I cover up. For 3somes I ofcourse need girls to participate in my pornmovie playing in my head to fulfill my darkside fantasies so a few small demands are to be had. This irritating (and also amuzing) Harold444 I notice use my 8 to 9 ratings of the girls in BG as an example for downgrading the quality of the ladies present and I have many times agreed 8 to 9's according to my system is not seen everyday in BG but they can be had. Depends also on pure luck I guess. What system Harold444 operates under (except falling in love with this exeptional Rainbow GOGO girl) I don't know and have no interest in knowing bcs that is up to him as looks and body ratings are individual. An 8 to 9 girl in my system I would probably rate down to 6-7 at Demo. So if I met the same girl I thought was a stunner according to my BG standards (comparing to the rest of the crowd, standing out from the crowd present, according to my slightly lower expectation from the place and my use of her / them) she would still be doable but nothing more.
Frequenting medium to medium plus places as Climax, Levels, Q-Bar, Infinity (earlier Insomnia) , Shock69, Mixx, Spasso and more(for LT play) my expectations runs higher. In such places I expect some good girl quality, combi of PSE/GFE and here the girl crowd mostly will find itself on a quite good level and a 8 to 9 girl here would be a 7 to 8 at Demo and then they are more than good enough to session up with.
In Demo(where my rating system is developed from when it comes to looks) you have for Thailand the most stunning beauties imaginable and moviestars, models, rich mixed babes and here they go all the way up to 10 (the real thai 10). A girl rating 5 here would be doable but then probably be a bit chubby. If seen in BG she would have atleast been rated as a 7 to 8 and in Climax a fair 6 to 7. Ofcourse in Demo girls can only be met through normal mechanisms as most girls here are well heeled.
I also have a permance ratingsystem but it works surprisingly simular to the girls rating system. In my younger mongeringyears (mostly in USA, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil) I mostly went for the 9 to 10 girls(developed back then from FHM and simular magazines and later reinvented in Thailand from Demo) back then and often in hi so places. My mongering back then viewed compensating girls for sex was for loosers LOL. Even so it was here I first experienced starfishing so in an odd way a 9 to 10 girl would in some cases run as low as 5 on the performance scale. But the 6, 7, 8 and lowside 9 girls will perform in general around 8 to 9. But lately I see the benefits by paying girls to leave as I don't want to be stringed to any attatchments except from my fleet of regular girls. I leave out one for the crowd through one pic so it is for you guys to rate her? Where do you think we met (Bangkok ofcourse)? Her data is 165cm. 47kg. 29yrs, teached to A+ level (took a while) , lets call her Som, great performer and lives close to Don Muang airport.
Paul Kausch
04-27-13, 03:04
since womens looks and beauty are in the eyes of the beholders and everyone have their own opinion regarding this, it is hard, if not impossible, to do a 1 to 10 women rating system in general.this is one of the points i was making.
i divide my ratings upon location meaning if i go to biergarden (bg) i have rather low expectation of the girls in general located on scene in bg. if i visit demo, one of the most exclusive hi so nightclubs in bkk and with the best looking females i ever seen in thailand.
frequenting medium to medium plus places as climax, levels, q-bar, infinity (earlier insomnia) , shock69, mixx, spasso and more (for lt play) my expectations runs higher. in such places i expect some good girl quality, combi of pse / gfe and here the girl crowd mostly will find itself on a quite good level and a 8 to 9 girl here would be a 7 to 8 at demo and then they are more than good enough to session up with.another point i was making, an 8 rating for biergarden is not the same as an 8 at one of the g-clubs.
i also have a performance rating system but it works surprisingly similar to the girls rating system.i think this is interesting. i would love to learn more about it. a citation or explanation would be appreciated.
i leave out one for the crowd through one pic so it is for you guys to rate her? where do you think we met (bangkok ofcourse)? her data is 165cm. 47kg. 29yrs, teached to a+ level (took a while) , lets call her som, great performer and lives close to don muang airport.i'd like to see her naked. it's hard to judge her age. she looks like she might be well north of 30. i could be wrong. judging by the way the dress drapes around her midsection, she may have a bit of a tummy. similarly i'd like to know if her breasts are nice and perky or sort of saggy. on your biergarden scale i'd give her a 10. on your demo scale i'd give her an 8 if her tummy is flat and tight and her breasts are nice and perky. i have no idea where you met her. because she has a classy look about her i'll guess it was not a classy place.
On a final note. Aside from the prices I paid. Looking at the average st and lt prices, I think BKK is starting to rival other western countries. Time to seek out Yangon and Vietnam. Or the cheap eastern european girls in london.Yep, that is exactly the point so many longterm residents have been making for awhile now. Guys I know in London and who go to the Spanish coast pay less than many of us here in BKK.
I leave out one for the crowd through one pic so it is for you guys to rate her? Where do you think we met (Bangkok ofcourse)? Her data is 165cm. 47kg. 29yrs, teached to A+ level (took a while) , lets call her Som, great performer and lives close to Don Muang airport.Thanks for having shared your thoughts. About Som, she can be from any where, biergarden included, LOL
Ex. Goatscroot is one crazy mohter f. Can't see why he living in the past. He a young guy- he should enjoy what BKK has to offer now. Not what he got 10 years ago. LOLHarold, actually I find the P4P scene in BKK now to be quite boring. Most of my friends do as well. I would imagine that most dudes who live here for 10 plus years find the scene a bit dull now. All glitz and show. Hey, but when more and more money comes into the picture that is what you get. Less for more!
Paul Kausch
04-27-13, 11:01
Before my current fascination with the rainbow bars, I used to go look and see what the ratchada parlours had to offer. The fihsbowl girls were average at best, very few could be considered good looking. There was a noticeable difference in sideliners, if you couldn't tell the difference. Thats on you!I haven't been to the Ratchada parlors often enough to claim to be an expert: Poseidon, The Lords, Colonze 2 and Emmanuella a two or three times each. I agree with you, combining all my visits most of the fishbowl girls were average, a few below average, even few above average. So yes, the distribution was skewed towards below average attractiveness. I should have chosen my words more carefully. I didn't find the sideliners to be any more attractive than the best looking fishbowl girls. Taller and fairer, yes. Attractiveness, about the same.
Funny thing is we think alike but I think you just don't want to agree with me. I get that a lot. I tell it like it is.I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. For the most part my post was a series of personal observations and questions.
I find it interesting that while generally men agree that very attractive women are attractive and very unattractive women are unattractive, I find considerable variation in opinions of the attractiveness of the ladies in between these extremes. I think these variations may occur because we tend to be drawn to specific features. I like ladies with slender and toned bodies, especially a nice tight ass. I don't mind if the tits are small and the face is average, a 5. So I might give a super fit lady with an average face and small breasts a 7 or even an 8. Someone else may look at her and think she's a 5, at best. Take a lady who is plump but has a very pretty face. I might give her a 5 because she's on the fat side while another guy might give her a 7 or 8 because of the pretty face. What particularly intrigues me is that the men who like full figured ladies might give this lady a 9 or 10. Years ago I had an acquaintance whose wife had a pretty face but she was fat, not pleasantly plump, but F A T. He thought she was gorgeous and acknowledged he had a fetish for fat ladies. This guy was average height and weight.
Even more fascinating was a guy I used to know whose idea of foreplay was to be tied up, insulted by a very aggressive bitchy lady and thrown into a dark closet for a few hours. She'd leave, come back, drag him out of the closet, untie him, make him do all sorts of humiliating things and then she'd fuck him. He also found reruns of the original Hawaii Five O to be extremely erotic because many of the episodes contained scenes in which one of the characters was tied up. He said intermittently throughout the remainder of the episode there would be a series of scenes in which she (he said it was almost always an attractive woman) struggles to get free. He would video tape these scenes (I knew this guy back in the 80s) so he could watch them and masturbate whenever he got horny. He swore whoever was writing these episodes had to have a bondage fetish. But this is an entirely different subject. I'll save it for the first time some guy posts a report on BarBar.
Scorchin1470
04-27-13, 11:50
Harold, actually I find the P4P scene in BKK now to be quite boring. Most of my friends do as well. I would imagine that most dudes who live here for 10 plus years find the scene a bit dull now. All glitz and show. Hey, but when more and more money comes into the picture that is what you get. Less for more!Too much glitter and it is boring. A week of Soi Cowboy / Nana is enough before I get bored and go to, for example, Gullivers* to find a quiet FL office girl type.
Or watch football!
* Even the Beer Garden people watching.
Harold, actually I find the P4P scene in BKK now to be quite boring. Most of my friends do as well. I would imagine that most dudes who live here for 10 plus years find the scene a bit dull now. All glitz and show. Hey, but when more and more money comes into the picture that is what you get. Less for more!Nicely put. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
It reminds me a bit of old-school porn tapes. They always had incredible cover art promising the moon. But the content was terrible. Bad lighting, weak performances, etc. The current BKK scene seems similar. Lots of hat, few cattle.
Come on guys. There us only one rating you should use. Fuckable or Not Fuckable. If she is fuckable all other criterias are out of the window. At this stage does it matter how beautiful she is, fat or skinny, tight boobs or no boobs, etc. Etc. There is no more 7 or 10 to contend with.
Scorchin1470
04-27-13, 17:05
Come on guys. There us only one rating you should use. Fuckable or Not Fuckable. If she is fuckable all other criterias are out of the window. At this stage does it matter how beautiful she is, fat or skinny, tight boobs or no boobs, etc. Etc. There is no more 7 or 10 to contend with.Absolutely correct. A good fuck is a good fuck and if she is a good fuck that is all that matters.
If I pay Baht 1500 or whatever all I want is a fuck to remember. If I remember the fuck she is a 'tick, ' if not she is a cross.
Tony Hoeprano
04-27-13, 18:26
Frequenting medium to medium plus places as Climax, Levels, Q-Bar, Infinity (earlier Insomnia) , Shock69, Mixx, Spasso and more (for LT play) my expectations runs higher. In such places I expect some good girl quality, combi of PSE / GFE and here the girl crowd mostly will find itself on a quite good level and a 8 to 9 girl here would be a 7 to 8 at Demo and then they are more than good enough to session up with.
In Demo (where my rating system is developed from when it comes to looks) you have for Thailand the most stunning beauties imaginable and moviestars, models, rich mixed babes and here they go all the way up to 10 (the real thai 10). A girl rating 5 here would be doable but then probably be a bit chubby. If seen in BG she would have atleast been rated as a 7 to 8 and in Climax a fair 6 to 7. Ofcourse in Demo girls can only be met through normal mechanisms as most girls here are well heeled.
I wouldn't include Shock 39 as a medium level place place, it was awful LOL. Like the soldier said in Apocalypse Now at the Do Lung Bridge scene, you're in the asshole of the world, captain! All the rest of them are pretty much same same, but better than Shock (ok I can't vouche for spassos). I would venture the one club you forgot to mention that has better looking girls is Scratchdog, but the girls there tend to gravitate toward the East Asian sex tourists, and especially the Singaporeans are quite popular (many girls I've talked to like them. Not sure if its their charm or wallet haha)
The funky villa / demo clubs are a notch or two above the freelance places because for one, they're not freelance places LOL, but good golly you make it sound like its Paris Hilton's exclusive birthday bash and that couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, you'll find heavy hitter types, and no you won't find motosai drivers or construction workers partying there, but fact of the matter is most of the girls there fit the Thai spec and many are broke as a joke when its all said and done. This place ain't nothin' special. It's ok to bring your own girls there for a good time out on the town, but the absolute worst place to try to try pick up
Trying to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. I started cumming here in 2003, things haven't really changed much except back then patpong was an ok place.
The golden week in japan must have the light skin girls foaming at the mouth. R2 was hopping like I've never seen it before. Many of the back-up and filler girls were getting barfined.
R4 always busy so really hard to see effect on customer count.
No offense but people who finds things boring really need to look inward. Its more than likely you are boring. LOL.Ah, sorry Harold, I find plenty of fun in BKK, just not so much in the P4P scene any more. There is lots to do here! So no only bored with P4P. And sorry, things are drastically different from '03. I will agree that Nana has not changed much, but Cowboy sure has, as has the freelancer scene, and the demographics of lower Suk. I would say lower Suk is far dirtier than it was in '03. Remember the market ended at Soi 11 then. In 03 you did not have as many of the street bar eyesores either. The economy here was just starting to really recover as well.
Skogis,
Since you frequent the Grand President in you BKK stays, have you had the opportunity to check out the new club across the street above the Australian Pub called BASH?
I would like your opinion as to how it compares to Spasso and Climax. Thanks,
? . go to, for example, Gullivers* . * Even the Beer Garden people watching.Better than a night at the movies. A student in social sciences will find great material for his studies.
Member #4387
04-28-13, 00:23
Skogis,
Since you frequent the Grand President in you BKK stays, have you had the opportunity to check out the new club across the street above the Australian Pub called BASH?
I would like your opinion as to how it compares to Spasso and Climax. Thanks, You know what Rod as far as I can remember I have never been to BASH. Every now and then vodka can influence my remembersystem so you never know. But give me a couple of days I will find out. I am heading to BKK in 1 or 2 days. I will mostly look into my regular girlfleet this time (this is my plan but I am great in breaking my own plans) but will for sure try to step inside the place to give you or others som info and compare the place to the others.
You know what Rod as far as I can remember I have never been to BASH. Every now and then vodka can influence my remembersystem so you never know. But give me a couple of days I will find out. I am heading to BKK in 1 or 2 days. I will mostly look into my regular girlfleet this time (this is my plan but I am great in breaking my own plans) but will for sure try to step inside the place to give you or others som info and compare the place to the others.Thanks, looking forward to your "field report" on BASH. Don't work over the crop in BKK too hard, I will be there shortly and I don't want them all to be all worn out by you before I get there! Save some for the rest of us (ha, ha, ha).
Too much glitter and it is boring. A week of Soi Cowboy / Nana is enough before I get bored and go to, for example, Gullivers* to find a quiet FL office girl type.
Or watch football!
* Even the Beer Garden people watching.Http://gulliverbangkok.com/branch.php
90 day reporting in for Thai Retirement Visa, the A-O Visa, if you live in BKK.
How do any of you living in BKK do it? Do you travel to boarder city?
90 day reporting in for Thai Retirement Visa, the A-O Visa, if you live in BKK.
How do any of you living in BKK do it? Do you travel to boarder city?Perhaps I am not understanding your question. But for 90 day reporting you go to Thai Immigration, the same place you got your visa probably. In BKK I just go to Bumingrad Hospital for 90 day reporting. They will take care of it for a 500 baht fee. Leave the passport with them and pick it up the next day. Much easier than going out to Immigration.
Http://gulliverbangkok.com/branch.phpThe Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).
The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).And if you're into English football a place to be well aware of.
Yes, and they have free computers you can use while your checking out the scores and the Bangkok bangables.
The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).
Scorchin1470
04-28-13, 14:26
The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).That on my last trip I met a potential keeper at Gullivers. Articulate, educated, attractive and fun. Just earning her rent money at the end of the month.
But I had other fish (well one anyway on the hook) so it will have to be another time.
PS- to those who say only the 'young' can score at Gullivers I say. Nonsense!
Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
I'm having a high hit rate I. E. Piles of emails (granted many one or two liner introductions). The girls are quick to spit out contact details however and are mentioning that we should meet up when I get to Bangkok. I'm a 35 year old European, tall, slim build, which appears to be hitting their buttons.
Just wondering, have any of you guys used this website to line up dates when you land (as an alternative to p4p?
If so, what kind of success rate did you have in terms of getting them into the sack on the 1st date? Don't want to wine & dine a chick for days in order to spread her legs. Or let me rephrase that, I'm not to concerned about spending a bit of money on a hot girl, I just don't want to waste precious time, if the girls won't drop their trousers.
Thanks for any advice you have.
Perhaps I am not understanding your question. But for 90 day reporting you go to Thai Immigration, the same place you got your visa probably. In BKK I just go to Bumingrad Hospital for 90 day reporting. They will take care of it for a 500 baht fee. Leave the passport with them and pick it up the next day. Much easier than going out to Immigration.Where is "out to Immigration"?
In Chiang Rai Immigration comes to us from Mae Sai once a month or we can just go 60km up to Mae Sai?
But if I were to move to BKK how would I handle it?
Where is "out to Immigration"?
In Chiang Rai Immigration comes to us from Mae Sai once a month or we can just go 60km up to Mae Sai?
But if I were to move to BKK how would I handle it?I don't have the address with me but just google it or go to the thaivisa website. It is a big massive building out in the middle of nowhere. That is why it is much easier to just go to Bumingrad Hospital .10th floor in the first building you come to if entering from Soi 3.
Franciscass
04-29-13, 07:36
I don't have the address with me but just google it or go to the thaivisa website. It is a big massive building out in the middle of nowhere. That is why it is much easier to just go to Bumingrad Hospital .10th floor in the first building you come to if entering from Soi 3.Http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/location1.html
It's in Chaengwattana, hardly the middle of nowhere. Taxi from Lower Sukhumvit about 100 baht and depending on traffic about 30 minutes. I am usually in and out and back in the bar in 2 to 3 hours.
Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
Thanks for any advice you have.Your approach is P4P but you don't want to do that. Honestly, I think you might be disappointed. Better "hit the road, Jack" and go for FL's or bar girls and enjoy them in the sack. As much as it can always be a hit or miss, your rate of success will be higher, less time consuming.
Member #4387
04-29-13, 09:02
Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
I'm having a high hit rate I. E. Piles of emails (granted many one or two liner introductions). The girls are quick to spit out contact details however and are mentioning that we should meet up when I get to Bangkok. I'm a 35 year old European, tall, slim build, which appears to be hitting their buttons.
Just wondering, have any of you guys used this website to line up dates when you land (as an alternative to p4p?
If so, what kind of success rate did you have in terms of getting them into the sack on the 1st date? Don't want to wine & dine a chick for days in order to spread her legs. Or let me rephrase that, I'm not to concerned about spending a bit of money on a hot girl, I just don't want to waste precious time, if the girls won't drop their trousers.
Thanks for any advice you have.Well I have been using the datingsitetools for many years now and to some extent I consider myself to have atleast some knowledge what is going on in the datingsiteworld. I have used mostly Dateinasia (DIA) , Thailovelinks (TLL) , Tagged and FilipinoCupid (FC) but also tried your Thaifriendly. Com. NB! As a mongerer I do a combination of meeting datingsitegirls and meeting freelancegirls in typical places for that (they can ofcourse be both and most likely are).
Well back to your case then. You can assume that a good portion of girls frequenting these sites (especially the once that are for free) are P4P girls or atleast not girls who would be offended if you are willing to pay for sex. You can view their profiles and how they write it (atleast it has helped me). If profile has pictures mostly of the girl in bar / pub / disco environment you will most likely run into a socalled freelancegirl (there are many types of them but mostly atleast the ones I have come across often have daytimejob but but do some legspreading for that extra nice to have buck). I have also ran into non P4P girls but then their picture are taken in more normal daytime activities (at work, in uniform / workoutfit with a I'd / securitycard, on holiday / beach etc). More easy girls dress and stand out in bikinis or other tiny tiny bits of clothes hardly covering, I assume our mutual part of interests, their female advantageparts some even dress looking like prostitutes. Decent thaigirls can dress sexy and decent but don't show to much skin (traditional thai is strong in some) in general. Decent girls will also in most cases only wanting serious / longtime relationships but more easy girls will maby skip serious / long time and only want "romance / dating". NB! Some decent girls also press "dating" as they have understood by now that it is normal to date before entering a serious / long time relationship.
But it is an exciting world you enter now. There are no correct answers as girls will behave differently to us. Some like you and some like me. Some are in it for only the money yet others will be deeply offended if offered money. What they almost all have in common is that they want a western guy.
When I sign up a new profile tons of "hello","how are you","how are you doing","want to meet up" (probably p4p girls) and simular msg arrives in my inbox. After a while it calms down. I am a tad older than you recently turned 40. Started come into BKK (approx 10. 15 times per year) in 2006 and have no trouble getting girls back home (in fact I have one). European as well.
One twist I have started doing when creating a new profile (s) is that I tell straight up what I look for and with big letters I write "I AM NOT NOT INTERESTED IN SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP" then atleast in my case only girls who wants to have some fun will contact me. I have this morning arrived into Bangkok from Manila. I have spend 9 days in manila and had a blast with almost only girls from datingsites where I did write profile like I mentione above (even used the word "adultfun"). From some 4 weeks ago my profiles have been up and running and I remeber started out after a few days with 80girls (only Manila) I thought looked decent. I have almost not contacted anyone myself. After scammers and girls with brushed photos were ruled out (screened through webcam sessions) my list narrowed down to 28 attractive girls ranging from 20 to 37yrs. For a week or so approx 30girls seems high but you can add in 25% no shows (girls having second thoughts or simply chooce another punter) as well so you end up with 20 to choosefrom who are good to go (or to be fucked to be honest). Remember allways that these girls we are attrackted to datingsitewice have thousands and thousands of horny guys contacting them promise them gold and money so they can choose themself. But after talking about this to quite a few datingsitegirls I have learned that many many guys are simply rude and "hey I want to fuck you. How much","can I see your tits" and so on. I use a modest but direct language and it tends to attract atleast enough girls for my use.
So my recomandations to you are in short: be polite, don't use rude language, tell what you look for and don't be a cheap charlie. Sometimes a wine and dine is nice but even nicer if you know you can sex her after. If you don't know this the food does not taste the same, hehe.
NB! You can read the Philippine section of this forum and the Manila thread you can see how datingsitegirls can make you a better day:-) I have to admit I like to give the girls a little something even if they dont ask just to keep the record straight(put some money in their purse while thay do shower routine). Makes atleast me feel good. Tons of info to be had here as well(start at page 50 and you will know many things from a mongering perspective).. The philippine section even have its own "PenPal" section where a lot of issues from the datingsiteworld are debated most of the issues ofcourse applies for the thaipart of the datingsiteworld.. Just as a tip..
I will also encourage you to pay the $20 for subscription so you can send and recieve PM`s you also see pics in photothread better. Much info are also shared private as it is not meant out in the open..
Good luck and happy mongering..
Tony Hoeprano
04-29-13, 12:22
Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
I'm having a high hit rate I. E. Piles of emails (granted many one or two liner introductions). The girls are quick to spit out contact details however and are mentioning that we should meet up when I get to Bangkok. I'm a 35 year old European, tall, slim build, which appears to be hitting their buttons.
Just wondering, have any of you guys used this website to line up dates when you land (as an alternative to p4p?
If so, what kind of success rate did you have in terms of getting them into the sack on the 1st date? Don't want to wine & dine a chick for days in order to spread her legs. Or let me rephrase that, I'm not to concerned about spending a bit of money on a hot girl, I just don't want to waste precious time, if the girls won't drop their trousers.
Thanks for any advice you have.I'll give you the Real Deal Holllyfield on dating sites. LOL
They're ok if you're here on a long holiday or a permanent stay. Since you said you're after hot girls and not concerned about spending money on them, just skip them unless you're willing to lower your standards. Remember the hot ones are getting 100's of messages daily, even the dogs get attention there. It's not really the money you would be wasting, but the time IMO (especially if you're here on short holiday). Many of those girls don't even resemble their photo. If you insist on meeting online, just set up a quick date near your place and then make it really simple not posh, like a cup of coffee or some cheap noodles. No need to initially spend a lot of money here, just go with the flow and if you like her and she's hot, then by all means go for it, either set up another date or hit a nightclub and have some fun fun.
Paul Kausch
04-29-13, 15:31
Your approach is P4P but you don't want to do that. Honestly, I think you might be disappointed. Better "hit the road, Jack" and go for FL's or bar girls and enjoy them in the sack. As much as it can always be a hit or miss, your rate of success will be higher, less time consuming.
Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".Bionicman is absolutely right. A few months ago Stickman published a very long story written by a relatively young guy (at least compared to me) who has been living in Bangkok for years. From the earliest days of TLL, Thaifriendly and similar websites he has used them extensively and has developed a system he has perfected. His story explained how he arrived at his system and how it works. What is notable is that he was adamant that for the average monger who visits Bangkok for a few days or a couple of weeks once and awhile these hookup websites are more time and trouble than they are worth. He strongly recommended doing exactly what Bionicman is suggesting. This was a very long submission and Stickman said in-spite of it's length he included it because in his opinion it was such a thoughtful analysis of the pros and cons of these websites.
The only thing I'd add is that MP girls inhouse or especially on outcall is another good option.
YellowPaul
04-29-13, 16:52
Bionicman is absolutely right. A few months ago Stickman published a very long story written by a relatively young guy (at least compared to me) who has been living in Bangkok for years. From the earliest days of TLL, Thaifriendly and similar websites he has used them extensively and has developed a system he has perfected. His story explained how he arrived at his system and how it works. What is notable is that he was adamant that for the average monger who visits Bangkok for a few days or a couple of weeks once and awhile these hookup websites are more time and trouble than they are worth. He strongly recommended doing exactly what Bionicman is suggesting. This was a very long submission and Stickman said in-spite of it's length he included it because in his opinion it was such a thoughtful analysis of the pros and cons of these websites.
The only thing I'd add is that MP girls inhouse or especially on outcall is another good option.Thanks as I'm in a similar boat as I was considering my first short trip (5 nights) in a few weeks and I find a bar girl with a lot mileage a completely distasteful option. I will look up Stickman reports.
Where is the best clubs to meet some non P4P locals, expat's, tourists, etc?
I was getting places like Q Bar, Levels, Route 66, Bed Supperclub from my research.
The only thing I'd add is that MP girls inhouse or especially on outcall is another good option.Of course! Whatever one does is ok. But "stay away" from dating site for a few day spell in BKK.
There are so many options that I do only 10% of what I have in mind when in BKK, and I count only for P4P and I also tend to reduce the amount of time spent with a sort of GF in BKK as it is like being hand cuffed, although she enjoys visiting some mongering places (bars, but not the go-go's) and always says: "if you want to take a girl back to the hotel do it and I go home: no trouble and no problem"
Thanks as I'm in a similar boat as I was considering my first short trip (5 nights) in a few weeks and I find a bar girl with a lot mileage a completely distasteful option. I will look up Stickman reports.
Where is the best clubs to meet some non P4P locals, expat's, tourists, etc?
I was getting places like Q Bar, Levels, Route 66, Bed Supperclub from my research.Any (non P4P) girl aht you will apporach and will hear you are there for 5 nights, she will kind of stay away as sh eknows you mainly want to take her to bed and then dump her.
There are some unique chances. To succeeed for a freebie and one night stand, but in 5 days youa re going to waste your time, I am afraid.
Check Bangkok beat from 10. 30pm in Soi 7/1, a mix of girls just out to enjy an evening but also some P4P in the crowd.
Mr Enternational
04-29-13, 19:22
Stickman published a very long story written by a relatively young guy (at least compared to me) who has been living in Bangkok for years. From the earliest days of TLL, Thaifriendly and similar websites he has used them extensively and has developed a system he has perfected. What is notable is that he was adamant that for the average monger who visits Bangkok for a few days or a couple of weeks once and awhile these hookup websites are more time and trouble than they are worth.Key words in this post is "average monger." Even before I was living in Thailand I had no trouble hooking up with non-pro chicks on websites when I was only visiting for a few days. As you said, it is very time consuming. A rule of thumb with this as with many issues concerning picking up chicks is that if you can't do it at home or other places then don't expect to be able to do it there. I have been doing that type of thing on the internet since before there were dating sites and only chat rooms. And before the internet I was calling the party line deal picking up chicks. The game has not changed, only the players. As Bionicman said the girls get a lot of freaking responses so you would really have to step your game up. I had lost contact with a gik who I met on tagged. I went back on the site and she had a different profile so I emailed her. She said it was a miracle that we found each other again because she had gotten over 800 emails in 3 days. Guys in the PI thread who use DIA do not go on more than 2 weeks out of when they are arriving in PI. That is a good rule to follow. Any more time than that then the girl will usually lose interest, especially with so many more fish biting on her line.
Member #4387
04-29-13, 22:07
Key words in this post is "average monger." Even before I was living in Thailand I had no trouble hooking up with non-pro chicks on websites when I was only visiting for a few days. As you said, it is very time consuming. A rule of thumb with this as with many issues concerning picking up chicks is that if you can't do it at home or other places then don't expect to be able to do it there. I have been doing that type of thing on the internet since before there were dating sites and only chat rooms. And before the internet I was calling the party line deal picking up chicks. The game has not changed, only the players. As Bionicman said the girls get a lot of freaking responses so you would really have to step your game up. I had lost contact with a gik who I met on tagged. I went back on the site and she had a different profile so I emailed her. She said it was a miracle that we found each other again because she had gotten over 800 emails in 3 days. Guys in the PI thread who use DIA do not go on more than 2 weeks out of when they are arriving in PI. That is a good rule to follow. Any more time than that then the girl will usually lose interest, especially with so many more fish biting on her line.I almost totaly agree with you. Good report. I don't mind some timespending with occational datingsitesgirls(even for short trips but mostly I do a combo dating/FL/regular) as I also spend some time with freelancegirls as well as in the prescreeningprocess (interviews, chemistrybuilding) before take out. Only Biergarden and sometimes Gullivers are used for quick take outs in my case (not timeconsuming). Having profiles stating straight to the bone what I look for did the trick atleast for me (I have lately done this). Some datingsitegirls you don't even have to wine and dine (my exp from my recent philly visit). The time spend 2-3 weeks infront of travel for buidling a list of available girls I don't mind as I find it fun and interesting (nice pre travel excitement).
Paul Kausch
04-29-13, 23:31
Thanks as I'm in a similar boat as I was considering my first short trip (5 nights) in a few weeks and I find a bar girl with a lot mileage a completely distasteful option. I will look up Stickman reports.
Where is the best clubs to meet some non P4P locals, expat's, tourists, etc?
I was getting places like Q Bar, Levels, Route 66, Bed Supperclub from my research.I don't think Q Bar or Bed Supperclub are good choices. I don't think of them as good pickup spots and if you do pick up a lady in one of these places she's going to be a FL. Last December I took a different "date" to each place. I didn't notice any obvious FL at Bed and only a couple of possibilities at Q Bar, but I wasn't hunting so I may have missed someone.
I just frequent the usual haunts such as the go-go bars, MP, the popular pick-up clubs such as Climax and also book escorts through one agency, Bangkok Gold. So I'm not the best person to make suggestions. If you speak some Thai, are prepared to spend a good bit of time trying to identify the right lady, are not worried about being unsuccessful, and will be happy to get laid once or twice over five days, you might try hitting the night spots that are popular with the Thais, such as RCA. You could also just start talking to clerks, ladies on their lunch breaks and be on the lookout in the malls. However, there are many other guys on the Forum who are much more knowledgeable than I in such matters and may think I'm way off base. I defer to their expertise.
I'm basically a depraved monger who's perfectly happy to fuck one or two BG, MP and FL every day, with an occasional escort thrown into the mix. Other than spending a few minutes looking for an appealing lady at Climax or Gulliver's, or hitting a few go-go bars to see if I find a lady I like, I'd rather walking into an MP, book an MP on outcall or call Bangkok Gold.
I almost totaly agree with you. Good report. I don't mind some timespending with occational datingsitesgirls(even for short trips but mostly I do a combo dating/FL/regular) as I also spend some time with freelancegirls as well as in the prescreeningprocess (interviews, chemistrybuilding) before take out. Only Biergarden and sometimes Gullivers are used for quick take outs in my case (not timeconsuming). Having profiles stating straight to the bone what I look for did the trick atleast for me (I have lately done this). Some datingsitegirls you don't even have to wine and dine (my exp from my recent philly visit). The time spend 2-3 weeks infront of travel for buidling a list of available girls I don't mind as I find it fun and interesting (nice pre travel excitement).Still looking forward to your expert opinion on BASH! When you can find the time. Thanks,
The time spend 2-3 weeks infront of travel for buidling a list of available girls I don't mind as I find it fun and interesting (nice pre travel excitement).That can be filed as entertainment, just as we read and contribute to ISG when we are back home. Or it is just like browsing on Internet. You get to know what is gong on, what type of girls you might find around. But IMHO working actively on dating site to select your bed partners (I underline the plural but it is even worst on "single" basis) for the time you will be in Thailand is indeed a waste of time. It fascinating to jump on the plane and know there will be a girl waiting for you at the other end! But has much as you have spent hours on Skype, mas much as she has even been showing off on cam, the real chemistry is found only on real. If there is none you will be disillusioned, to will have to dump her (after weeks of "preparation") and find an alternative in a bar, on the street, at Gulliver. So back to ground zero. Options there are so many that it is much better start once you arrive. How often the initial good feelings at the bar, in real, are gone when the P4P girl is in the room? Happens often. Just think of that when selecting your bed partner through a dating site. Do you chat for weeks or months for a one night stand? Ehmmmm. Makes sense? Then bring your own ice to Alaska. Might be even better.
I read that in Philippines girls travel for one or two hours on a bus to meet (first time) the DIA monger. For a one night stand.
Sounds to me like buying two rolls of bread through Amazon. I prefer to buy my bread at the shop on the corner, maybe he has different types of bread I am fancy of.
PS, of course, the above "you" is generic, not addressed to Skogis.
Mr Enternational
04-30-13, 01:13
It fascinating to jump on the plane and know there will be a girl waiting for you at the other end! But has much as you have spent hours on Skype, mas much as she has even been showing off on cam, the real chemistry is found only on real. If there is none you will be disillusioned, to will have to dump her (after weeks of "preparation")I just came from Colombia and met this chick who is an engineer. I don't know how she found me, but somehow in January when I was in Colombia and she was in Orlando / Miami she added me to her facebook. Three months of trying to converse with her was useless. And it was the same in person this past weekend. All she did was ask questions; the type of questions that lead to more questions. We had fun in the sex department and going out, but when we were alone and no sex was happening it sucked. Last night I decided to turn on the TV for the first time. I went to the toilet and came back and she had taken control of the remote and didn't want to give it up. I jumped in her shit. All weekend she had not thought about the TV, but when I decided to turn it on, geez. And each time we went to sleep she woke up first and would pester me about waking up because she was up. That shit got on my fucking nerves. I got so visibly frustrated with her that by the time she went home late last night we knew we wouldn't be seeing each other again.
Just think of that when selecting your bed partner through a dating site. Do you chat for weeks or months for a one night stand? Ehmmmm. Makes sense? I read that in Philippines girls travel for one or two hours on a bus to meet (first time) the DIA monger. For a one night stand. Sounds to me like buying two rolls of bread through Amazon. I prefer to buy my bread at the shop on the corner, maybe he has different types of bread I am fancy of.I have never tried to meet a woman online in hopes that it would be a one night stand or that we would have sex together (unless somehow it comes up and it is mutual). But 9 times out of 10 nature takes its course and afterwards we remain friends or more. If I want a one night stand then there are plenty of FL to go around. I'm not into wasting my time chatting up and putting in time with someone who is P4P who I have never seen in person. Like you said I would rather pick my P4P chicks in living color.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_StNnA8La7A
Skogis,
Is your favorite waitress featured in the video?
Member #4387
04-30-13, 02:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_StNnA8La7A
Skogis,
Is your favorite waitress featured in the video?Hm she has served me on various occations yes (not mongerwice). When I stay at GP and I need my sauerkrat and sausages I eat here. Und trink meine Weissbier.
Warum you ask this question?
Still looking forward to your expert opinion on BASH! When you can find the time. Thanks,Just been to BASH, it was a bit of a HASH, so really must DASH, that BASH was a bit of a GASH, so bye from BASH Mr. PASH.
There you go! Why don't you go for yourself the next time you are in Bangers. I am sure it is just another Disco / Club / Gash.
Regards.
Chuckie the BJ Ned.
Hm she has served me on various occations yes (not mongerwice). When I stay at GP and I need my sauerkrat and sausages I eat here. Und trink meine Weissbier.
Warum you ask this question?Sie erwähnt, dass Sie eine große, attraktive Kellnerin nahm füare eine Fahrt in Ihrem Zimmer. Ich frage mich, ob das attraktiv in dem Video war das Mädchen. (Blame Google if something is lost in translation.)
Makes all sense. Still there is people doing it, with few good scores and lots of disappointments.
I think it is worthwhile to warn the guys (rather than giving phone nos. Or address of our conquests as anyhow YMMV) who dream about that path (making the dating site happy with the traffic, their role is to create illusions and Internet traffic)
I just came from Colombia and met this chick who is an engineer. I got so visibly frustrated with her that by the time she went home late last night we knew we wouldn't be seeing each other again.That is when the say "we pay them to leave" comes around handy. Chemistry cannot be built artificially. Maybe some WG / P4P give more GFE than a non WG with whom one can occasionally hook through a dating site. If there is no chemistry best is to put some money in the purse and politely say bye bye, if she is a WG. If she is not, things are more difficult, if one has a sort of respect for the other party and the other party doesn't get the point (as your girl and the TV issue). You might party well or you might party on anger.
Of course one can care the less to leave an angry party out of the door, but then, after it might happen a few times (and it will) , one really questions (or should question) himself, why the hell he went through this dating site saga.
Think it thru Paul-do you think there would be a Bangkok if girls were giving it away for free?Probably in the very beginning some were free as enjoyed the opportunity to hook with a farang, giving her some cheap gifts. Then the news spread around and more farangs came to LOS aware of the "free" pussy. Girls realised they could raise some money, some funds.
On the other hand they might enjoy some free drinks, some meal, some pocket money. But you are not making a living out of that. Money is needed in normal life. And whatever one does for a living he / she needs the working hours to earn money for a living. If those hours are spent hanging around with farangs for next to nothing (and don't tell me their existence back at the village is with nothing, the town costs more than the village) , sooner or later they will realise that it's the wrong way to go. Especially if the farangs go away after 5 days or 20 days.
Never underestimate chemistry. These volume guys have no clue how much it adds to the experience.
Getting sex online is no big deal-they hookers too, for the most part. Don't flatter yourself and think you doing them a favor. LOL.
You can tell the posters with massive egos- I wouldn't put too much stock in what they say. LOL."All women are wh*res and all men are consumers." You could be paying with money, time, emotions, etc. There is always a price to pay.
Member #4387
04-30-13, 11:50
Sie erwähnt, dass Sie eine große, attraktive Kellnerin nahm füare eine Fahrt in Ihrem Zimmer. Ich frage mich, ob das attraktiv in dem Video war das Mädchen. (Blame Google if something is lost in translation.)Ah I see yes in my last trip me and a greman bloke start talking at the Old german Beerhouse. Then the lady in the video was serving us that is correct. She ended up with meeting the german bloke at Climax when her shift ended at 2am ors sth. What happened after that (him and her) I don't know. It was me and the german bloke going to my room. LOL
Ah I see yes in my last trip me and a greman bloke start talking at the Old german Beerhouse. Then the lady in the video was serving us that is correct. She ended up with meeting the german bloke at Climax when her shift ended at 2am ors sth. What happened after that (him and her) I don't know. It was me and the german bloke going to my room. LOLIf you are in town when I am there, I will certainly buy you a pitcher of beer! You have entertained me with your exploits and recommendations.
Linkwray666
04-30-13, 19:34
I've never seen guys approaching girls in malls- could be a myth. Never seen guys chat up cosmetics or eyeglass girls-could be myth.I have done both of these repeatedly and with minimal effort during long stays in PI, not cosmetics and eyeglass girls specifically but clothing shop girls, shoe shop ladies, electronics store girls. I don't have experience with this in Bangkok and probably will not have a chance to try on my next trip due to time constraints but might give it a shot on future extended visits. Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?
Western787
05-01-13, 04:51
Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?The obvious difference in regard to shop girl pickups at least, is the Phils is pretty much a third world basket case where the chicks are often looking for a ticket out vs lets say Bangkok where its generally viewed as an amazing world class "happening place to be" megalopolis. Excepting the under 35 charmers who can pick up anywhere anyways, that's a big difference right there.
Tony Hoeprano
05-01-13, 05:44
I have done both of these repeatedly and with minimal effort during long stays in PI, not cosmetics and eyeglass girls specifically but clothing shop girls, shoe shop ladies, electronics store girls. I don't have experience with this in Bangkok and probably will not have a chance to try on my next trip due to time constraints but might give it a shot on future extended visits. Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?Another reason why is in the PI, the girls can speak decent English while their Thai Sisters generally speak crap English.
Mr Enternational
05-01-13, 06:01
I have done both of these repeatedly and with minimal effort during long stays in PI, not cosmetics and eyeglass girls specifically but clothing shop girls, shoe shop ladies, electronics store girls. I don't have experience with this in Bangkok and probably will not have a chance to try on my next trip due to time constraints but might give it a shot on future extended visits. Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?No. But it seems that most guys believe that if they can't do it or haven't done it then it is far-fetched and not possible. And even if they do accomplish it then they guilt themselves into believing that they need to give the girl money. I chatted up a Chonburi eyeglass girl on the plane from Tokyo to Bangkok. Of course I did not know she was an eyeglass girl until we exchanged information.
One non-p4p girl I used to mess with said that when she first went to Bangkok from her home town she worked in a furniture store. She started dating a farang who shopped in the store and ended up losing her virginity to him. Most here would probably say she wasn't a traditional Thai lady, but just a big liar, and chalk her up to being the town hoar (maybe because those are the only type of women they are used to dealing with).
"All women are wh*res and all men are consumers." You could be paying with money, time, emotions, etc. There is always a price to pay.I never had a rich GF to support me. On a per fuck basis, I always found hookers in Thailand to be cheaper than a real GF or wife even more so. A real GF / wife comes with so many hassles and bills to pay. Many of us find it hard to see the worth in it. Even when I had a well paid Farang wife, it still cost me some money and not much sex. She wasn't even clean down there. She got horny one day per month and was a be*tch the rest of the time. That was when I first found that Thai girls were way better than those of my own country for sex.
Member #4387
05-01-13, 10:50
Arrived early Monday morning into Bangkok from Manila and went straight to my Bangkok hotel. Was thinking of going out for an initial FL girl at Climax but stayed in room, watched som The Wire episodes and crashed instead.
Monday. Jumped out of bed around 10ish. Went down to Villa Market to shop suplies (alcohol) and building up my stock of Kamagra gel packs, KY tube of lube and some additional antibiothics just incase something is wrong with my little willy. Paid as usual 3000BHT for 50pk of Kamagra. If you buy small ammount you pay 80BHT per pack. I decided to skip the banana flavour and went for black currant, pineapple, vanilla, orange and strawberry. Let the Thai mongergame begin. Headed for BG around 1pm. Decent crowd (girlwice) and according to MY ratingsystem (expectations of the place and so on) only 7 at best present at that time. After shipping a beer ms Mona (lets call her that) walks in and she is atleast very cute, smiley and somewhat sexy (all in all a BG 8) so I follow my willys recomandations and eyeball her in such a nice way so she sits down next to me. Quick prescreening and interviewing and 15min later we head back to my hotel. A+ services agreed. In BG I allways check if that is on the meny if not I will bring in a substitute.
Good session, short and effective, anal play with condom and good BBBJ and I salute her with a CIM. She did the spit out routine after. Can not blame her realy. I usualy don't let BG girls stay but this one I let use my laptop so she can go through some e-mails while I watch some TV. I am thinking of having another go at her as well as she had some good moves. 30min later we commit into romp nr 2 she lies flat on back on table. The table have just the correct height according to me and I don't have to stand on my toes to do her. I change a lot between pumping ass and twat. I salute her with one COA. Gave her 2K for nice performance 8/10 and looks she get 8/10 (BG wice) .155cm. 40kg and 24yrs no occupation. 1 baby but no stretchmarks.
I feel somewhat sick later towards the eve so I decide to call in sick. For company I can not choose from my regular fleet as they think nothing of the lower Suk area and they better not find out I stay in this area (the one who did know / found out are no longer with me from various reasons). I decide to redo a Climax girl (an 8 Climaxwice) instead and she arrives around 10pm. Lets call her Pam. She was analfriendly last time and no surprises where to be had thanks god. I was a bit slimey and trouble breathing so I let her do most of the work (to hard mongering in Phils) in the beginning. She gave good service and assroad me. A very nice view when the ladies lean backwards and you see your willy inside the ass instead of pussy I think. We did a few sessions during the night and I did her at the breakfasttable around noon. I did her bareback last time incl ass and it was hazzlefree but this time I went bareback only in pussy and I did infact cover up in ass. She claimed she hadn`t freelanced for a while (I guess she is only a part time FL as I know for a fact she also carries a regular job in Terminal21) so that is fine. Performance 8/10, looks 8/10, 30yrs. 162cm. 45kg. 1 baby, no stretchs, shaved. Did go through a lot in the sex textbook and I saluted her 3 times but probably did 5-6 sessions in total (a bit on and off) KY empty. Very friendly, a lot of DFK, DATY, BBBJ, rimmings and so on. Gave her 3K and we went both outside as I needed more KY and beers / vodka.
Felt very satisfied for a while and almost well again but around 5ish I started to get restless and in need of some pussy. Called up a TLL date (not screened through webcam for achange) and we agreed to meet up at the big post box at Terminal21 at 7. I have seen some pics of her ofcourse but they proved to be taken from proffesionals. She was not ugly but an even 5. Proved to be very traditional and for you native englishspeakingguys finding my english crappy, well she wasn`t much better. Seems like writing and using translatortools is her advantage. Maby she also was a bit nervous I don't know. And the poor girl seemed to like me so I dined her but later I told her in a nice way I did not think this was going to work due to lack of communicationability (had infact to use some translator tool on my Lumina phone to pass this message or communicate whatsoever. For her it seemed this was no problem). So guys what can we learn from this mistake? Screening screening through webcam.
BTS'ed my way back to Nana and popped inside Soi 8 around 9pm to see if a FL girl I knew was present. She was so happy to see me again. Lets call her Hoy. She has nice tetas and I like silicon valley every now and then and right now I felt the urge. We decided to go to her place which she shares with a few others but atleast it is a decent apartment in Soi 24. We did motobike our way there. No AC though so I was sweating like a pig. Did her mostly in the bathroom as one of her friends was present. Just a quicky for the road. She gave me this one for free since I am such a nice guy and I bought a lot of food for her friends in Soi 8 which she highly appreciated. Gives her good standing. She claimed not to be freelancing so much anymore but if anyone recognize her I recomend her but cover up guys I did not. She is all A+ friendly and good FL girl.
Arrived back at hotel around 11pm showered and shipped some vodkas while doing some online work. Jumped into the night at 1am and jumped in a taxi and headed over to CM2. Some stanigirls present and some black women too. Bought a bottle of Absolute and there were some eyecandy. A couple of Stanis worked their way over to my bottle but they are so direct and low on chemistry so even if they could have been 8/9`s I can picture a bad session. They are to forward with pricesettings as well and one claimed 6K and she would stay all night. I gave her a polite laugh. Met up with lets call her Lis (7/10) instead and she was very friendly and funny too. She became drunk and so did I. She asked if I wanted to join her and she did claim she was only in town for a short visit. I did not buy it but what the heck I am not going to live together with her anyway. We almost finished the hole bottle and off we went to some apt / hotel HoneyHouse in Soi22 (I don't know if this building is a part of HoneyHouse, hehe) so she did infact have a room. She claimed it was 400 a night with ofcourse another girl in the room. This girl woke up and my 3some instinct fired up but she was uglybugly so I politely refused her kind offer having a go at her as well. Atleast it was some sort of AC so the fuck session was ok and she was A+ friendly as well (I covered up in ass). After 2 rounds I felt like leaving for home. The place was not clean enough for my liking so I crawled back to my hotel assisted by a taxi after a while. Lis 25yrs. 160cm. 50kg, DFK, BBBJ, looks 7/10 and performance 8/10 (bcs of ass access).
And now I am in shock as I a couple of hours ago recieved a phonecall from GF back home. She and a friend of her is coming to BKK tomorrow. This was her surprise to me as I, stupid me, did tell her I finish my business in BKK and leave back home on Sunday or Monday so now she have decided to come see her love. GRRR! Well the change of hotel from a monger area to a non monger area was allready planned as I was from tomorrow going to attend to my fleet of regular girls (in Novotel Airport) but know I have to think outside the box and spend time with my GF IN BKK. WTF. I could not come up with an excuse as I was caught off guard. I tried to sound happy. Well Lebua it is.
Gents,
Managed to secure a 2 day pass in BKK away from the missus. Unfortunately I land on May 24th (Visakha Bucha day)!
Trying to work out whether there will be any bars open (I love to booze with FL girls) and any gogo bars open?
If neither are available what will be my best bet for meeting FL girls to bring back to my room (mental note to stock up on booze at Heathrow airport!)
Can't believe my luck.
Cusland
Has anyone ever receive fake money from the money changers? Two of my friends who have been to Thailand quite a few times have 2 different view. One person said that he always go to the bank to exchange money even though they don't have favorable rate because he said that he had received fake money from money changers before. The other friend said that he have been going to Thailand for 10 years, always used money changers and have never received a fake bill.
I told them that I would post the question on the forum and see what the experts here's experiences have been.
Gents,
Managed to secure a 2 day pass in BKK away from the missus. Unfortunately I land on May 24th (Visakha Bucha day)!
Trying to work out whether there will be any bars open (I love to booze with FL girls) and any gogo bars open?
If neither are available what will be my best bet for meeting FL girls to bring back to my room (mental note to stock up on booze at Heathrow airport!)
Can't believe my luck.
CuslandI was in Bangkok on Makha Bucha day. Nana Entertainment Plaza and Soi Cowboy were closed and dark. However, there were some bars on Soi 4 still open, just not in NEP. Also, some of the discos were open as well. And after midnight, some of the street bars will open.
Has anyone ever receive fake money from the money changers? Two of my friends who have been to Thailand quite a few times have 2 different view. One person said that he always go to the bank to exchange money even though they don't have favorable rate because he said that he had received fake money from money changers before. The other friend said that he have been going to Thailand for 10 years, always used money changers and have never received a fake bill.
I told them that I would post the question on the forum and see what the experts here's experiences have been.Counterfeit bahts can be a problem:
http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-spend-fake-thai-baht-thailand
I've never been given a counterfeit baht since I hardly ever use a money changer. Instead, I get my bahts from an ATM. So far, I haven't been given any counterfeit as change which is probably how most counterfeit gets into circulation. It happened to me in Argentina when a cab driver gave me counterfeit $$ as change.
I read somewhere that the most counterfeited money is the Chinese Yuan. From the country that counterfeits everything, I guess that isn't a real surprise.
Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?Maybe thru some of the internet services it is possible but your basic pick-up face to face of a regular Thai girl is very hard for most of us. One thing as mentioned is the language, but the big reason I believe is simply perception. When you see a Thai girl with a Farang, the assumption by almost everyone is that she is a working girl or was a working girl. Regular Thai girls don't want people to think that of them. I think this is changing as Thailand gets more Western in some ways and as lots of Farangs are now working here and meeting regular girls thru work and social interaction. But it still is the elephant in the room if you go out with her. And if you are just passing thru what is in it for her? It happens though I am sure. I know a few waitresses in Farangland who have ended up marrying Westerners but I suspect lurking in their past was a period of doing more than taking food orders.
Counterfeit bahts can be a problem:
http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-spend-fake-thai-baht-thailand
I've never been given a counterfeit baht since I hardly ever use a money changer. Instead, I get my bahts from an ATM. So far, I haven't been given any counterfeit as change which is probably how most counterfeit gets into circulation. It happened to me in Argentina when a cab driver gave me counterfeit $$ as change.
I read somewhere that the most counterfeited money is the Chinese Yuan. From the country that counterfeits everything, I guess that isn't a real surprise.So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok.
I have only been to Thailand once a few years ago so I don't know how to tell a real bill vs a fake bill.
So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok.Also banks have booth every where with extended opening times, Sundays included. Honestly, unless one is changing huge amounts the difference is not worth to walk too far to change money.
Tony Hoeprano
05-02-13, 07:49
Nice report Skogis. However, the Hoy girl looks a little suspect LOL
Mr Enternational
05-02-13, 07:51
So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok. I have only been to Thailand once a few years ago so I don't know how to tell a real bill vs a fake bill.All you should worry about is how much fucking you are going to do. The money is a non-issue. If it was an issue then you would see it posted everywhere. I have never received fake money that I have known about. I bring cash, change it over, then put it into my Thai account. I think if you did receive fake bills then it would be in the 100 baht denomination, which is only over US$3. And you won't receive a stack of them at the same time. Like Yujin said it might be one mixed in with some change you receive. So each time your friend uses the ATM he is paying the $5 the Thai bank is going to charge him plus the money his bank is going to charge him. He will actually save money if he opts to receive a couple of counterfeit bills from money changers instead.
All you should worry about is how much fucking you are going to do. The money is a non-issue. If it was an issue then you would see it posted everywhere. I have never received fake money that I have known about. I bring cash, change it over, then put it into my Thai account. I think if you did receive fake bills then it would be in the 100 baht denomination, which is only over US$3. And you won't receive a stack of them at the same time. Like Yujin said it might be one mixed in with some change you receive. So each time your friend uses the ATM he is paying the $5 the Thai bank is going to charge him plus the money his bank is going to charge him. He will actually save money if he opts to receive a couple of counterfeit bills from money changers instead.Thanks for the response. I am not worried about getting fake 100B but about the fake 1000B at the money changers. I will be bring cash and will be changing about US$2000 in Bangkok. I never saw anything on the forum about fake money which is why I never gave it a second thought until one friend told me that he had gotten fake 1000B at a money changer. This was the reason why I ask if anyone here have ever received fake money at a money changer.
Thanks for the response. I am not worried about getting fake 100B but about the fake 1000B at the money changers. I will be bring cash and will be changing about US$2000 in Bangkok. I never saw anything on the forum about fake money which is why I never gave it a second thought until one friend told me that he had gotten fake 1000B at a money changer. This was the reason why I ask if anyone here have ever received fake money at a money changer.Change at reputable exchange booths. They're all run by Thai banks, or other large companies. Unlike, say, Myanmar, Bali or Venezuela, you don't have to go into a back room or somebody's jewelry shop to exchange money. There is no black market, it's all above board. The odds of getting fake bills this way are extremely small.
The 1, 000B bill has a silver metallic stripe and a sort of holographic watermark. Look at one. Many times when you pay with one the clerk will do the same. Those are really hard to fake. Check the bills and, if it's there, you're OK.
Stop worrying!
Thanks, just didn't want to keep trying to find a bank when I need to change money.
Paul Kausch
05-02-13, 20:17
If this girl did do anal, it would ruin my perception that only ugly girls do anal. LOL. JOver the past 30+ years I've had plenty of anal from many girls, pros and complete amateurs, who were 8s and 9s. Many of the girls were in Bangkok; they were all pros. The amateurs who did and liked anal were all in North America.
Paul Kausch
05-02-13, 20:38
Change at reputable exchange booths. They're all run by Thai banks, or other large companies. Unlike, say, Myanmar, Bali or Venezuela, you don't have to go into a back room or somebody's jewelry shop to exchange money. There is no black market, it's all above board. The odds of getting fake bills this way are extremely small.
The 1, 000B bill has a silver metallic stripe and a sort of holographic watermark. Look at one. Many times when you pay with one the clerk will do the same. Those are really hard to fake. Check the bills and, if it's there, you're OK.
Stop worrying!Yes! No need to worry about counterfeit Baht. The North Koreans are only printing US$100 LOL. While its true many of the money changers are big companies, such as Supperich1965 which I frequently use because their rates are excellent, in fact there are small independent money changers in Bangkok, and some of these are in jewelry stores. For example there is a jeweler near the Chit Lom BTS on the south side that changes money. Generally these independents offer the poorest rates, though better than the banks. Personally, I'd only use a bank if I have dollars that have a mark on them I missed. The money changers will not accept these. I can't understand why anyone would accept the ridiculously low exchange rates the banks offer. If you're exchanging US$2000 there may be as much as a THB2500 difference between the best and worst rates you'll find. That's almost enough to get 90 minutes of debauchery with Apple over at Cherry's. Even the difference on US$100 is enough to pay for some great street food.
I think a guy on a limited budget would do well to bring dollars, euros or pounds, seek out the best exchange rates, and avoid the ATMs and banks altogether. Doing it this way will save you enough to pay for some extra pussy.
Over time these small differences add up.
I was in Bangkok on Makha Bucha day. Nana Entertainment Plaza and Soi Cowboy were closed and dark. However, there were some bars on Soi 4 still open, just not in NEP. Also, some of the discos were open as well. And after midnight, some of the street bars will open.Thanks Sir. You're a gentleman. I'm staying in the Landmark so not far to go to Soi 4. (had some fun times in Twins bar before with admittedly ropey women!). Here's hoping climax disco is open later on!
Anyone know if DR BJ etc will be open?
Cheers
Arriving Sun May 12 early and had planned a later morning / early afternoon excursion to Cowboy or Nana etc. However, hotel I am put in (Narathiwas) seems to be 4-5 km to south in Chongnonsee. Wonderful! So I guess a taxi is the only way. Questions.
A. Anyone have other thoughts?
Be. Anyone know anything about "friendliness" of Narathiwas if I phone for a visitor?
Well travelled but new to Thailand / Bangkok. And no spring chicken.
Gali
Franciscass
05-03-13, 01:07
So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok.
I have only been to Thailand once a few years ago so I don't know how to tell a real bill vs a fake bill.Vasu on the corner of 7/1 gives the best rate. 1% or more above what banks offer, may not seem a lot but that's where to go. On fake bills, never known anybody who had this problem anywhere in Thailand.
Franciscass
05-03-13, 01:10
Arriving Sun May 12 early and had planned a later morning / early afternoon excursion to Cowboy or Nana etc. However, hotel I am put in (Narathiwas) seems to be 4-5 km to south in Chongnonsee. Wonderful! So I guess a taxi is the only way. Questions.
A. Anyone have other thoughts?
Be. Anyone know anything about "friendliness" of Narathiwas if I phone for a visitor?
Well travelled but new to Thailand / Bangkok. And no spring chicken.
GaliCowboy, Nana and Patpong are evening venues, if you want daytime action try the bars, soapies or oilies. Lots on this and other forums re where to go.
Thanks Sir. You're a gentleman. I'm staying in the Landmark so not far to go to Soi 4. (had some fun times in Twins bar before with admittedly ropey women!). Here's hoping climax disco is open later on!
Anyone know if DR BJ etc will be open?
CheersYou may want to try BASH as it closes very late from what has been told and is just down the street from Climax. BASH is above the Australian Pub, across the street from the Grand President Hotel.
Cowboy, Nana and Patpong are evening venues, if you want daytime action try the bars, soapies or oilies. Lots on this and other forums re where to go.Agreed there will be most action night time. However, my idea of a midday excursion (apart from the obvious) was to get my bearings of places in daylight so to make things easier at night. Also, once the job starts there will be no other daytime opportunities to see the highlights and the quality of the eye candy. I also need to sort out how to get to places from my hotel and better doing that daytime and at leisure rather than at night / after work when a part of my anatomy is demanding urgent attention.
Gali
Thanks guys for all the feedback on fake bills.
I never thought anything about fake bills until one friend said that he got some from a money changer once. I am glad that no one here on the forum have received fake bills since most of you guys go to Thailand a lot more than my friends.
I will use money changers since they are everywhere the last time I was in Thailand so they would be easier for me. Thanks again in putting my mind at ease.
Scorchin1470
05-03-13, 17:29
Thanks guys for all the feedback on fake bills.
I never thought anything about fake bills until one friend said that he got some from a money changer once. I am glad that no one here on the forum have received fake bills since most of you guys go to Thailand a lot more than my friends.
I will use money changers since they are everywhere the last time I was in Thailand so they would be easier for me. Thanks again in putting my mind at ease.I have changed money at many places in Bangkok over more than 20 years and have never received a note which was later refused by anyone.
You are just as likely to get a fake $ or Ł in my view.
A prostitutes look- my theory.
I think the main factor is the face followed by the body. Everything else no big deal.
The other night my bf was trying to get her hair just right- she got frustrated she couldn't do it to her satisfaction. I told her your hair really doesn't matter if a guy barfines you or not. LOL. Don't know what she thought of my comments.
I may be getting a bit too comfortable with this girl as I tell her what I really think. LOL. Ex- she tried a push up bra for the first time, I knew right off the bat I didn't like it and told her so. Since she doesn't have much too push up the bra looked like it pushed up a lot of air. LOL.
With her regular tiny bra theres a bit of boobs showing- very sexy considering she not a well endowed girl.
Heavy eyeliner make-up. I told her no good-makes her look like a prostitute. LOL. I didn't really say it makes her look like a prostitute but thats what I thought.
Fake eyelashes- told her no good.
Don't know if the tinkering is because she's not as popular as she was not long ago. Before she was alwasy getting called off stage and getting a barfine while I was there. Now when I'm there she doesn't get called off stage at all.I can live with an ok face. Have to have a rockin' body.
Vasu on the corner of 7/1 gives the best rate. 1% or more above what banks offer, may not seem a lot but that's where to go. On fake bills, never known anybody who had this problem anywhere in Thailand.Agree 1000000%
NeverGetsOld
05-04-13, 00:37
I've fucked about every type of girl you can fuck in Thailand now and still happiest with my nana plaza gogo bar girlfriend. Would take a bullet for me which could come in handy if I'm ever in shootout hehe. A very rare bird, that didn't have a Thai boyfriend. Tells me the most interesting stories on a daily basis, just as if one dated a cop would here the same. Just the other day, her coworker couldn't walk. Some guy from Spain with a giant dick brutalized her pussy all night. Got 5, 000 but has to pay 10, 000 to have her pussy fixed and out of work for a week. On the other end, my innocent, smiley, small boobed, small ass, clean cut girl attracts a lot of pussy types. Cuddlers, baby dicks, minute men from Fortune 500 companies and such, that try to get her to go straight hehe which works out awesome for me. I, well I loosen her asshole up a little by little each day and have the nights to myself searching for side pieces if I have the energy. Everyday I hear different stories but my memory is dog shit right now. You can learn something new from just about anyone.
Regarding my side pieces, couldn't be happier with what Thailand has to offer. Growing up and semi retired with the young, pretty, spinners. Just some incredible thickness here from chicks aged 27 on up and of course way better in the sack. You long time visitors or ex pats think a growing economy has lead to more nourished girls? Because I have been encountering some of the fattest assses and get giddy like a school girl on a daily basis.
NeverGetsOld
05-04-13, 06:29
You don't get my dick if you are 30 minutes late to meet me.
Love this city. Pussy so accessible you can deny a ***** for being annoying.
. You long time visitors or ex pats think a growing economy has lead to more nourished girls? Because I have been encountering some of the fattest assses and get giddy like a school girl on a daily basis.For sure BKK resident girls have access to more junk food. Just look at how much McDonald expanded as well as (cheap and junky) pizza places (like Domino or home delivery), all these have nothing to do with the natural diet their bodies are used to have by DNA.
I just found this app. It gives you the real time exchange rates. I haven't used it while in Thailand though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.megarichcurrencyexchange.thailand
For sure BKK resident girls have access to more junk food. Just look at how much McDonald expanded as well as (cheap and junky) pizza places (like Domino or home delivery), all these have nothing to do with the natural diet their bodies are used to have by DNA.And the weight gain for all on Thailand is amazing to witness. Sure there are plenty of thin Thai's but the number of heavy, heavier, and OMG, heaviest Thai's is astonishing. They have had sweet fried foods here forever; it's how much they can afford to each with the good economy that has contributed to Thai fatties. Hasn't done much for the Thai tits though!
And the weight gain for all on Thailand is amazing to witness. Sure there are plenty of thin Thai's but the number of heavy, heavier, and OMG, heaviest Thai's is astonishing. They have had sweet fried foods here forever; it's how much they can afford to each with the good economy that has contributed to Thai fatties. Hasn't done much for the Thai tits though!I don't think it is the fried and sweet it self. The asian diet is full of fried food, but either the ingredients or what is never heavy as the western food. You can have a significant Asian meal and never feel over heavy as with western food after one dish. More vegtables, maybe? Don't underestimate the lack of cheese and diary products in the Asian cuisine, another fat factor (not to mention cholesterol etc).
I remember my first time in BKK. We always had to be careful about age as very young (too young) girls were proposed. Now they mention on the webpages 18 to 23 but you can add 10 years for the real age.
Any real 18 to be advised for me?
It is time, as promised, to summarize my thoughts on the Asian travels completed today. Here it goes:
The punch line – the added value of an Phils / Thai mongering trip grows exponentially to the age of the punter. This value is also decreases with the lengh of stay. In other words, older punters with plenty of time to spare at Phils / Thailand will benefit the most from these places. For young, good looking guys on a relatively short trips – it is perhaps worthwhile waiting for 20 years to maximize the value of such a trip (unless, of course, there is a direct introductions form local contacts involved or all expenses paid business trip) and rather focus on German FKKs or their home grounds.
Now – in more detail. I've conducted extensive tasting of Manila and Bangkok. Few points on the author, so to speak – to understand my perspective. I'm relatively young, not on a budget. I have ample options to f*k for free 7s (in looks) , if not 8s in the West (I know, I know – there now such thing 'for free', but I chose not to account here for the investment of time, meals, drinks, etc that female companionship typically require). I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both. In my case, the latter is a strong drive, whereupon my fantasy is to have a porn star experience (PSE) with a model-looking girls. Aside from that fantasy – nothing really drives me to P4P (this, I know, may change in 10-20 years). So, this report is most valuable (if at all) to individuals with similar genesis of their P4P drive.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. As long as 9s-10s in looks (again, ladies with no kids, fresh adorable baby-face. 18-23 yo. O, very slim legs and the rest, etc) – none of these places produced the desired result. I placed particularly great hopes on high-end soapies (Amesterdam, Emanuelle and the likes in BKK; Air Force 1 and the like in Manila). To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no – nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.
Once I did find a girl that was 'it'. It was near go-go bar in Soi Cowboy in BKK. After buying her a drink, she told me she's a kayote and can't go out. The rest of my samplings were 7s with meat-processing proclivities. Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!
I did sample the best-looking ladies I could find in each mongering category. The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed. From the reports here, I assume that oilies are a good place to provide PSE. This may as well be, but this PSE is provided typically by ladies that I won't touch even if someone pays me. So, I didn't partake much in the oilies, aside from a sampler. Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand – of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists). Did I have fun on my trip? – certainly, but only because of some connections and the fact that I did many other non-P4P activities that I greatly enjoyed.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies – consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.
Disclaimer – this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum.
Joe Karnavic
05-04-13, 20:19
Tell us more about the customer stories!
I try to get my favorite to tell me about her bad customers but she just won't do it. I gave up a while back and came to the conclusion her other customers is not a topic for discussion.I heard this story from a girl in cupidity. Always love chatting with these girls between pops. She told me her most craziest experience. One Special ops guy with body like Rambo took her for two hours. He was on R&R break after some mission. He refused to get in soapy, fucked her six times in different position under 2 hours ie 20 minutes a pop! She was just changing condoms. Her pussy was sore and swollen with intense fucking. She had to take break for one week.
Mr Enternational
05-04-13, 21:44
Tell us more about the customer stories!
I try to get my favorite to tell me about her bad customers but she just won't do it. I gave up a while back and came to the conclusion her other customers is not a topic for discussion.Maybe you are the bad customer and she doesn't want you to lose face.
NeverGetsOld
05-05-13, 05:27
Funny thing is 3 other guys showed interest in her after me- I've never seen that with this girl. She got barfined with the 4th guy.I used to always to talk to the gogo girls and try to run game. Every time I was done talking to them they would get barfined. Lurkers to pussy to make their move.
Same thing in American bars when I got done talking with hotties the guys thought they had balls and would follow. Kind of insulting, cause they thought they were better then me.
Paul Kausch
05-05-13, 06:23
I think you went in with preconceived attitudes and noticed things that seemed to confirm these attitudes.
I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both.This statement is an over generalization. Some older men are drawn to the P4P scene because it's an easy way to have uncomplicated sex with a young woman. I'm in my early sixties and I still have opportunities to date and have sex with women ranging from my age to less than half my age. I have no desire to have sex with a woman older than forty; and the younger women I find are among the best looking in their age group; so naturally I'm inclined to gravitate towards them. Obviously, these are not young women looking for a guy their age to marry, at least not at this time. Some are drawn to older men because they are financially and socially secure; and they find men younger than forty dull and immature. They are tired of dating boys their age and are looking for a mature man with a wealth of experiences whom they can learn from and who has the means to give them a taste of the good life. The fact that older men have had more sexual experience with a wider range of women thus making them better lovers is also a factor. Some are gold diggers looking for a meal ticket. Rather than wine, dine and bed these women, and then sort out which category each falls into, it's simpler, easier and cheaper in the long run to just hook up with an SW. Also, by figuring out which women are sexually adventurous and cultivating their appetites, it's not too difficult find women who are not pros who enjoy acting out rather kinky fantasies. Personally, lack of companionship and the fulfillment of sexual fantasies have nothing to do with why I enjoy P4P.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no – nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.Anyone who has spent any time on ISG should know that in these venues the best you're going to find are 7's and 8's, except the big MP's on Ratchada do occasionally have 9's and 10's in their model category. Often these are women who appear in lingerie, bikini and nude photo shoots. However, it's not likely the papasan would introduce you to one of these women.
Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!You have a funny imagination. Generally SW prefer older men. High end escorts often state on their websites that they will not see men younger than 40, preferring men in their late forties and older. In general, SW don't like to have to deal with immature kids. As for your experiences, of course they just wanted a quickie upstairs. Time is money. The age of the John has nothing to do with it.
The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed.Do you really think a highly desirable young woman anywhere in the world wants to have a short time dalliance with a guy from half way around the world? You will find either: women who have no good options and foolish hopes of finding a guy who will give them a better life; women who have given up that dream and now just want to hook up with a guy who will spend some money on them; or pros who market themselves on the internet.
Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand – of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists).When I was spending a lot of time doing business in East Asia I was 'introduced' to 9's and 10's by Asian businessmen. You are correct tourists are not likely to meet these women, but plenty of Asian beauties are available. These ladies were most definitely P4P, and I was paying for them rather indirectly.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies – consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.Again age has nothing to do with it. I've met young men pursuing economic opportunities in Southeast Asia who have learned the language and social customs and are dating smart, beautiful young local women; and we all know there are older men living in Bangkok who are in relationships with younger women. Also, the man's physical appearance per se has nothing to do with it. I've known several unattractive men with very attractive wives and girlfriends. Some offered status and money; others were just great guys and an excellent partner. It's common knowledge that a man's physical appearance is not the most important quality women look for. And, one of the things I find endearing about SW is that some will provide an opportunity for men with physical disabilities and disfigurements to have an enjoyable sexual experience with an attractive young lady.
Disclaimer – this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514;Enjoyed your post. Glad you learned a few things on your trip. Keep traveling and keep an open mind. In another twenty years you may start getting a little bit intelligent. I laugh at myself when I think about how stupid I was when I was in my thirties and forties.
NeverGetsOld
05-05-13, 09:10
some girl i have been talking to tells me she started at rainbow 2 only five days ago. just broke up with boyfriend. used to work on cruise ship. 29 why / o for 1 week now.
she asks me for money and caught me at my weakest when i just had to cum and my now long list of freebies were not available.
real tight spinner bod with an ass that popped but not really my type in other minute ways and cut the 3000 long time session down to 2000 short. maybe i offered too much but whatever. 25% of time you generous, they generous back. very disappointing expenditure of funds, although the tight, wet pussy was very much to my liking. first round i was lame and went with her request on covered although i tried hard for uncovered. horrible instant ejaculation which i played off well to not be lame in her mind. after the dumby told me she got raped into uncovered i made sure the 2nd round was uncovered much to her initial disliking (light slap) she eventually got into it and said it was the longest she ever fucked which was nothing for me. 1/3 of the time i usually fuck and not even fully hard. probably following a baby dick ex boyfriend and a few bar fines. girl is a newbie and has a tight contracting pussy that gets wet, so if you want to fuck her, let me know, i will help you and her out. oh yeah, there were 2 great bbbj's in there. i just had to get her horny to start doing shit. she laughed when i said don't do that bar girl stuff or shit with me.
girl becomes more and more friendly, thinks i'm attractive and asks for my facebook afterwards. not the most farfetched thing that i could have a much cheaper or free session in future with her. maybe she contact me 6 months from now. i don't really give a fuck. just planting seeds in thailand.
wish i held out to tomorrow in cambodia where i will be paying less and could have an extra nut or 2.
Western787
05-05-13, 11:03
It is time, as promised, to summarize my thoughts on the Asian travels completed today. Here it goes:
The punch line – the added value of an Phils / Thai mongering trip grows exponentially to the age of the punter. This value is also decreases with the lengh of stay. In other words, older punters with plenty of time to spare at Phils / Thailand will benefit the most from these places. For young, good looking guys on a relatively short trips – it is perhaps worthwhile waiting for 20 years to maximize the value of such a trip (unless, of course, there is a direct introductions form local contacts involved or all expenses paid business trip) and rather focus on German FKKs or their home grounds.
Now – in more detail. I've conducted extensive tasting of Manila and Bangkok. Few points on the author, so to speak – to understand my perspective. I'm relatively young, not on a budget. I have ample options to f*k for free 7s (in looks) , if not 8s in the West (I know, I know – there now such thing 'for free', but I chose not to account here for the investment of time, meals, drinks, etc that female companionship typically require). I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both. In my case, the latter is a strong drive, whereupon my fantasy is to have a porn star experience (PSE) with a model-looking girls. Aside from that fantasy – nothing really drives me to P4P (this, I know, may change in 10-20 years). So, this report is most valuable (if at all) to individuals with similar genesis of their P4P drive.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. As long as 9s-10s in looks (again, ladies with no kids, fresh adorable baby-face. 18-23 why. O, very slim legs and the rest, etc) – none of these places produced the desired result. I placed particularly great hopes on high-end soapies (Amesterdam, Emanuelle and the likes in BKK; Air Force 1 and the like in Manila). To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no – nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.
Once I did find a girl that was 'it'. It was near go-go bar in Soi Cowboy in BKK. After buying her a drink, she told me she's a kayote and can't go out. The rest of my samplings were 7s with meat-processing proclivities. Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!
I did sample the best-looking ladies I could find in each mongering category. The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed. From the reports here, I assume that oilies are a good place to provide PSE. This may as well be, but this PSE is provided typically by ladies that I won't touch even if someone pays me. So, I didn't partake much in the oilies, aside from a sampler. Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand – of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists). Did I have fun on my trip? – certainly, but only because of some connections and the fact that I did many other non-P4P activities that I greatly enjoyed.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies – consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.
Disclaimer – this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514; I think you've added a new criteria, as I don't recall PSE being listed before (which I see above) , as with you before it was more like "passionate" (inferring GFE) along your other minimum criteria: "young 18 to 23" "fresh faced" "gorgeous" "long leg" "slender" "model types". I also see the "no silicone" requirement for the first time, the big problem there is slender girls by definition often need some help in that regard, so that will rule out many girls by itself.
Ok, you say you're "not on a budget", but I presume you do not have unlimited funds, because you're criteria (young gorgeous women in quantity) especially for a 10 to 14 day visit) were more in line with a Saudi oil billionaire or someone extremely wealthy, a rock star, or a young guy having the appeal of a Hollywood movie star, or some combination of the three.
(as a BACKGROUND NOTE, despite commentators in here recently saying the 1 to 10 rating system is subjective, in fact the overall rating system excluding outliers is really not) and its why Victoria's Secret Models, NFL Cheerleaders, Miss World constestants, Miss Universe, Playboy models, Penthouse models, and 1000 different entities around the world FOR THE MOST PART use similar standards, and while not ideal for 100% of males, overall its THE general standard for the vast majority of men in the world (especially the industrialized world) use to judge female beauty. As for beauty among different cultures, there is in fact (despite some differences) a remarkable overall consistency when comparing between differing cultures, and one can easily look up the recent (scientific) literature in support of that premise. Males are generally programmed worldwide to respond to certain fertility cues presented in terms of symmetry markers in females. So while nominally shallow in theory, in reality it has a Darwinian natural selection logic and evolutionary purpose, basically to increase the odds of human survival.
Generally one might call 7's as somewhat "hot" girl next door types, 8's as ultra hot, 9's model level "gorgeous" and (the very rare) 10s as world class level. You can quibble between what a 7.25 is vs a 7.75, but I believe that's the general framework. Yes, some guys like heavier women, girls with stubby legs, girls with huge asses, non symetrical waist ratios and so forth, but MOST men will be generally consistent when defining what a 9 or higher female looks like, and they will certainly know a 10 from a 7.
Now in your case, I understand you only really want 9's and 10's as you said you can sometimes even get 8's and your home country. Referring to these same 9 or higher girls, you also broadbrush (the entire world in fact) by saying "similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists"). That is not an accurate statement.
While you're quest is OK, its too bad you don't simply like "ultra hot" 8's because while short of perfection, they can have offsetting factors making them extremely attractive. In your statement from XGuide a few years ago referring to FKK World Gissen you mentioned even there you only found ONE single (presumptively) 9 or higher female, ("The reason I mention Justina is that she's one of the most gorgeous girls I've seend in FKKs. I'd give her 9-10.") who you then say was in love with herself. Your standards are nearly impossible, because once you hit 9 level, the other criteria such as "passion" or "chemistry" become increasingly more improbable.
(quoting Aibolit from X Guide)
"Just returned from 2 trips to World. Just a few words about myself, as this would allow you to better understand my report. I am relatively young, not bad looking, but I have a serious problem. I can play only with very young girls (18-24) that have a fresh not working girl-looking face, not an ounze of fat, long legs, no silicon. In short, unless I have an optifuck, I can not enjoy myself. It is a limitation. I know. It is further exacerbated by my insistance to have a semblance of chemistry. Robotic fucking with a girl giving me attitude kills it for me.
I have been trying to find what I want during all my world travels. And I had many. I have to say that so far, FKKs and World in particular have been able to provide me with the best opportunity to approach my ideal (to be honest, my ideal is non-pro beaty, but I don't have time and / or skills and / or patience to find one).
Visit #1.
Came in mid-week and found good ratio of girls / gents. My first one was Anna. She's from Warsaw and colors her hair blond. The good thing about her is that she has a very seet smile and personality. She is pleasant talking and seems to like sex. She's playful and provided GFE experience. He body is slim, long legs. Her biggest asset is her mouth. When she's having sex she twists it in a very sexy way that I personally find irresistable. Highly recommend. No anal though.
Next was Melissa. Melissa is 20 whyear old from Bulgaria. She has energy and excellent body. Dark hair. Quite sensual and good kisser. Main problem. Bad teeth, but not too noticable. She's easy going quite playful. No anal.
After Melissa, I repeated with Anna, as she was just a beauty.
Visti #2. Weekend. Much less favorable men / women ratio.
Tried Melissa again. Another good 30 minutes.
Tried Romanian girl with perfect body. She was tiny, tight, beautiful legs. Named Andrea. She was a bit mechanical, but not too bad. Her looks were so hot (she's about 19) that I was done in few minutes to her surprise. I wanted to try her again, but later in the day there were too many man in general and many who wanted Andrea.
So, I went with Anna again. Anna told me about having a reach muslim dude invite her to joing him in a European city for a fuck fest. She also told me that she likes lesbian act. Too bad I was tired and the place was too crowded. I would have asked Anna to arrange the three-some.
I finished the day with another Polish girl, whose name I can't remember. For a reason. She was 1. 75 cm tall, dark hair, sharp nose and great figure. She was an ok fuck, but quite uninterested in the process. Good optical effect though.
I saw one girl at World that calls herself Justina from Warsaw. Her real name starts with R and she wares this letter on a neckless. The reason I mention Justina is that she's one of the most gorgeous girls I've seend in FKKs. I'd give her 9-10. I didn't session with her though. Why? Justina was completely and utterly frozen. She couldn't maintain a conversation to saave her life and was clearly in love with herself. I was convinced that she'd be pretty unpleasant in any respect, aside from looking at her, so I passed on her. It was difficult, as I have a weak spot for beaty like that.
In general, I saw 3-4 fuckable girls in World each day. For me, this is a huge number, as I consider myself lucky to find 1 with my narrow criteria. I think it's a great place to come, see and do the girl you like. This is particularly helpful for people like me that don't have time, trust only their own eyes and do not do well in clubs or other loud environments.
Hope this helps. Aibolit"
(end quote)
NeverGetsOld
05-05-13, 13:25
It is time, as promised, to summarize my thoughts on the Asian travels completed today. Here it goes:
The punch line – the added value of an Phils / Thai mongering trip grows exponentially to the age of the punter. This value is also decreases with the lengh of stay. In other words, older punters with plenty of time to spare at Phils / Thailand will benefit the most from these places. For young, good looking guys on a relatively short trips – it is perhaps worthwhile waiting for 20 years to maximize the value of such a trip (unless, of course, there is a direct introductions form local contacts involved or all expenses paid business trip) and rather focus on German FKKs or their home grounds.
Now – in more detail. I've conducted extensive tasting of Manila and Bangkok. Few points on the author, so to speak – to understand my perspective. I'm relatively young, not on a budget. I have ample options to f*k for free 7s (in looks) , if not 8s in the West (I know, I know – there now such thing 'for free', but I chose not to account here for the investment of time, meals, drinks, etc that female companionship typically require). I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both. In my case, the latter is a strong drive, whereupon my fantasy is to have a porn star experience (PSE) with a model-looking girls. Aside from that fantasy – nothing really drives me to P4P (this, I know, may change in 10-20 years). So, this report is most valuable (if at all) to individuals with similar genesis of their P4P drive.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. As long as 9s-10s in looks (again, ladies with no kids, fresh adorable baby-face. 18-23 why. O, very slim legs and the rest, etc) – none of these places produced the desired result. I placed particularly great hopes on high-end soapies (Amesterdam, Emanuelle and the likes in BKK; Air Force 1 and the like in Manila). To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no – nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.
Once I did find a girl that was 'it'. It was near go-go bar in Soi Cowboy in BKK. After buying her a drink, she told me she's a kayote and can't go out. The rest of my samplings were 7s with meat-processing proclivities. Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!
I did sample the best-looking ladies I could find in each mongering category. The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed. From the reports here, I assume that oilies are a good place to provide PSE. This may as well be, but this PSE is provided typically by ladies that I won't touch even if someone pays me. So, I didn't partake much in the oilies, aside from a sampler. Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand – of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists). Did I have fun on my trip? – certainly, but only because of some connections and the fact that I did many other non-P4P activities that I greatly enjoyed.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies – consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.
Disclaimer – this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514; I fucked quite a few of 9 and 10's. They don't do PSE unless you are Tom Brady or really open up the wallet. They are exceptional. So should you.
Why am I so free giving with my tips. I like to help others. What a softie.
Next time. Go to Baccara real early when they open. Sit right in the middle, where you can see the most girls at the best angles, then be ready to bar fine the first hottie you see instantly. If still nothing on the bottom floor and the top floor starts filling up, run up there and be ready to bar fine quick.
If you don't see a 9 or 10 in Baccara then you need to need to go to Club Tempations, Obsessions, Voodoo, or Casanova or the massage parlors in Silom because you do not have the same DNA as a straight man.
Western787
05-05-13, 21:51
I fucked quite a few of 9 and 10's. They don't do PSE unless you are Tom Brady or really open up the wallet. They are exceptional. So should you.That is true as a general rule, and for this purpose focusing just on "gorgeous model level" 9's (as true 10's are very rare in nature) such rarified P4P hotties generally don't need to debase themselves by offering PSE with any total stranger with a few dollars in his pocket.
If an average (non rock star, not extremely wealthy, non movie star type) monger can routinely obtain (reasonably good at faking it) GFE with P4P 9 level providers, he's doing pretty well already."Chemistry" level GFE (the girl actually enjoying it at some level) is course far more likely with a 8 level or lower provider.
Note the the 1 to 10 scale, despite being imperfect, is by definition a purely visual standard, so the GFE and PSE issue is irrelevant anyways, along with the girl's personality including possible egomania or other character flaws.
It would be nice to have Ferraris and Lamborghinis all over the place and a garage like Tonight show host Jay Leno, but he's worth 180 million, but its not possible for most people, similarly Aibolit's level of standards including all his particular exacting requirements, in reality puts him in direct competition with world class level mongers. Proof of this is right in his X Guide comments in regard to FKK World Gissen where he talks about "Anna" who he's NOT EVEN VERIFIED he deems her a true 9 level or not."So, I went with Anna again. Anna told me about having a (to) reach (a) muslim dude (to) invite her to join him in a European city for a fuck fest."
A "fuck fest" using imports? So the "muslim dude" is flying hotties in? Lets say its London, where everyone knows 5 star hotels are 3 to 5 times the cost of Bangkok. So he's obviously paying for airfare and hotels plus the standard fees. Perhaps he has access to a private jet? (By the way, Tom Brady in fact has Net Jets) The point is a guy, even one moderately wealthy, simply cannot compete with such mongers, its not going to happen.
Western787
05-06-13, 00:21
Lets review the known required standards Aibolit has listed at various times."9s-10s in looks" "ladies with no kids","tall" "fresh adorable baby-face." 18-23 year olds" "slender" "very slim legs" "gorgeous" long legged" "model types", no silicon bolt ons, who are "passionate" preferably where there is also mutual "chemistry" in "quantity" as "variety" is also important, who also offer full GFE and PSE.
What's being described at P4P levels in practical terms would primarily fall within the realm of 1. The ultra famous and / or 2. The ultra rich. Otherwise all bets are off (even young studs with game) of obtaining this level of quality in quantity, especially on a random short trip. Yes, a double digits millionaire net worth type or weathier guy could pull it off, lets say in Manila or elsewhere, but even he would need a staff member running interference ahead of time carrying a huge amount of cash contacting procurers and legit model agencies and so forth. With these types (short of Oil Sheik level wealth) its not likely ever to happen, as the potential legal exposure is a risk they always worry about, so in practical terms he's safer flying in his playthings he's carefully vetted over time.
Member #4698
05-06-13, 01:05
I laugh at myself when I think about how stupid I was when I was in my thirties and forties.How true. Reminds me of the song:
Ooh-La-La by the Faces.
Poor old granddad.
I laughed at all his words.
I thought he was a bitter man.
He spoke of women's ways.
They'll trap you, then they use you.
Before you even know.
For love is blind and you're far too kind.
Don't ever let it show.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was younger.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was stronger.
The can-can's such a pretty show.
They'll steal your heart away.
But backstage back on earth again.
The dressing rooms are grey.
They come on strong and it ain't too long.
Before they make you feel a man.
But love is blind and you soon will find.
You're just a boy again.
When you want her lips, you get a cheek.
Makes you wonder where you are.
If you want some more and she's fast asleep.
Then she's twinkling with the stars.
Poor young grandson, there's nothing I can say.
You'll have to learn, just like me.
And that's the hardest way.
Ooh la la.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was younger.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was stronger
Western787
05-06-13, 02:25
How true. Reminds me of the song:To understand the near impossibility of Airbolit's criteria, even by German FKK standards, he's talking only 2% to 4% in that realm (after admitting they are "not top notch there either") at best as meeting his requirements (1 to 2 out of 50 as mentioned in the quote below).
His comments elsewhere on the net a couple years back in regard to discussions initiated by the topic of Lady Marmalade Parties in London are as follows:
(begin quote)
All,
I have not anticipated to stir such a debate! While Emma's response is as predictable as the zeal of the used car salesman's eagerness to sell his lemon at all costs, I was quite charmed by the diverse responses of fellow punters to my post. Let me reiterate that my opinion was not intended to criticize neither LMP devotees, nor the fine LMP establishment (even though Emma's response extinguished its chances to be rated a classy one in my book).
Taste is certainly a very personal thing, so let my opinion of LMP girls not offend anyone at all. I actually envy friends who have wider preferances than I am. I agree with some of you that my tastes are quite narrowly defined. I regret to admit that my spirit (and flash) is inspired solely at the sight of utmost beauty. That is why the sight of flabby leggs that seem to be an attribute of every LMP girl disappointed me greatly. After reading some posts, I even took another close look at the photos (that's all I have to judge, before shedding some money). A look that confirmed my initial opinion. I even reviewed Jewels photo again. With this kind of "beaty" the concept of "ugly" should be redefined! As I'm a skeptic, I wouldn't visit a place with the strange hope that in person the ladies will be better than on pictures. Usually, it's the other way around. Again, no offence, just my personal taste.
All that said, it is quite possible that what I like cannot be found in LMP-like establishments (although, I really hoped this wouldn't be the case). Why would a 20 whyear old beauty with impeccable fresh face and long slim legs would want to partake in LMP activities? FKK in Germany offers stunners, even though FKK talent is also not top notch in my book. I've been able to find what excites me in FKKs, but the choice there is from 50 girls, so 1-2 of them often fit the bill.
To sum up. I can't be happier for all the good people here who enjoy LMP talent. I truly do and there should be more of such establishments (I hear Emma growling.). In fact, there should be many more! (I hear her barking now.). Sadly, for the few of us who are cursed with a very romanticized sense of beauty, FKK remains to be the place.
Best to all of you. Aibolit.
(end quote)
Paul Kausch
05-06-13, 03:08
How true. Reminds me of the song:
Ooh-La-La by the Faces.Yes indeed. Now that you mention it, I remember the song. Just tried to give it a listen on YouTube but the label has nixed it. Thanks for sharing the lyrics with all of us.
Western787
05-06-13, 04:56
Chemistry guy checking in here. LOL.
Barfined that Rainbow 2 girl for 2, 200. Very nice girl. Absolute no chemistry I could sense. Funny thing is of the 3 Rainbow girls I've barfined on my current trip this one had the most bubbly personality, yet chemistry factor. None. Not even worth a 2nd try. LOL.
Like they say you win some, lose some.I assume you mean mutual chemistry (the kind that kicks standard GFE up a notch). You're saying she had no chemistry for you yet she has a bubbly personality? You get that at all with the girl that you've done 14 times with from Rainbow 4? Even though she charged you extra.
Where are the better streeet walkers, Bangkok or Singapore?
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Just post her number. I want to verify what you have posted. You really think she may go FREE with you in the future. LOL? I pay bar 15 times I don't think I got a miniscule chance to even get a 5% discount on barfine number 16. LOL. What am I doing wrong?
I guess all girls are welcome to work at Rainbow 2. But a 29 year old would have a tough time competing against hot 22 year olds, unless she is one of the many 9s and 10s being spotted recently.LOL.
The only thing you did wrong was you forgot your hip waders before venturing into the bullshit.
NeverGetsOld
05-06-13, 09:43
Just post her number. I want to verify what you have posted. You really think she may go FREE with you in the future. LOL? I pay bar 15 times I don't think I got a miniscule chance to even get a 5% discount on barfine number 16. LOL. What am I doing wrong?
I guess all girls are welcome to work at Rainbow 2. But a 29 year old would have a tough time competing against hot 22 year olds, unless she is one of the many 9s and 10s being spotted recently.Well it wouldn't be the first time I paid a working girl and then became her free fuck buddy, although not advised unless you can fuck a woman better then she has ever been fucked.
She works at Rainbow 2 but I didn't bar fine. She came to my crib. She was willing to fuck for less but I paid her a little more to take off work. There was some physical attraction from her beforehand. I make mistakes and was too financially generous with this 1. Stayed in sick the day before and a rare 48 hours without bustin a nut clouded my judgement.
I assume you mean mutual chemistry (the kind that kicks standard GFE up a notch). You're saying she had no chemistry for you yet she has a bubbly personality?Good chemistry has to be somewhat mutual I think and indicates you both liked each other, or appeared to, and she was willing to give you a good time, without star-fish stiff legs.
If the girl is able to give a good GFE sex experience, surely that is implying good apparent chemistry?
Checked Out Suzie Wong. Lineup was a bit weaker than usual despite a lot of girls.
A few too many over-weight girls. It does surprise me that so many girls so young can be carrying spare fat around the waist hips and thighs. A bit too many silicone jobs.
Okay a few nice bodies with rather ordinary faces stuck on them, a couple of stunning faces with crappy bodies attached. I am getting fussier these days. A few girls a bit too young (be careful). Most of my favourite girls were absent. Noi, Nit, Not, Yao all absent. I was thinking I might have to take Maa, the wayward slutty one with raspy voice, no class, but a good body and a good fuck. However the two girls I really wanted, not so young, but very experienced, reliable, and slim were booked by another customer (yes he took both of them). Fortunately it turned out he only needed a 1 hour short time, so it was possible for me to wait till they returned.
These 2 girls are so nice, he has been taking them day in and day out for the last month. LOL. That is going a bit far. Maybe. Apparently he may be like Bill Clinton. To be faithful to his wife, he doesn't have actual "sexual relations" with them meaning his cock is not allowed in the pussy. However they give him a lessy show and probably all sorts of oral is possible (I am just guessing he is like Bill). LOL. I don't know all the details. I hope he is not reading here as he will know exactly what I am talking about. I couldn't resist purely because I thought it was a bit amusing. Anyway I applaud his choice of the right two girls for the special assignment. Couldn't find two nicer bar girls that enjoy doing les things too.
I asked one of the girls, who is the best lessy licker in the bar and she proudly claimed it was herself without doubt. The 2 girls complained to me that they had not had a chance to do the lesbian show in a long while (and they both like it) , meanwhile sexy / erotic shows last night are not really up to former standard. The weird type shows, I don't like to watch anyway.
However, it was good news to me that the girls had been doing all these bookings without getting actually screwed and should have been hot for it by now, and knowing these girls. LOL.
So we had a nice long session of 2 hours or so with lots of positions and including very long DATYs too. They gave me the date that the other customer would leave Thailand. I could wait till then to see them again, or simply go to the bar late evening after the other booking was concluded. They cannot disappoint such a very good customer as him, so I have to be 2nd in the queue. Meanwhile might need to ring some former favourites of the bar, currently up-country, and ask them when they will return to Bangkok, or to make the special trip for guaranteed earnings.
Paul Kausch
05-06-13, 17:39
Checked Out Suzie Wong. Lineup was a bit weaker than usual despite a lot of girls.
Most of my favourite girls were absent. Noi, Nit, Not, Yao all absent.
However the two girls I really wanted, not so young, but very experienced, reliable, and slim were booked by another customer (yes he took both of them). Fortunately it turned out he only needed a 1 hour short time, so it was possible for me to wait till they returned.You mention other girl's names, but not these two. So who are they?
Mr Enternational
05-06-13, 17:55
Where are the better streeet walkers, Bangkok or Singapore?I know it's PP but I will answer anyway. It depends on what you mean by better. All the SW in Singapore come with pimps who jack the price up when they see you are not a migrant worker from South Asia. A girl that is available for 35 you automatically get for no less than 100. It also seemed that all the girls were from Indonesia. A SW in BKK is freelance and you can bargain as you wish. They are usually Thai with a Laotian or Cambodian sprinkled in every so often (you can count the eastern Europeans and Africans as well.)
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Tony Hoeprano
05-06-13, 21:21
Where are the better streeet walkers, Bangkok or Singapore?
]Singapore wins hands down in both quantity and quality. There's tons of street walkers in the Geylang district. BKK street scene is crap these days
Singapore wins hands down in both quantity and quality. There's tons of street walkers in the Geylang district. BKK street scene is crap these daysAgreed. The street scene is BKK is awful and has been since the floods.
Agreed. The street scene is BKK is awful and has been since the floods.I guess for some.
For me it I find it better than ever.
sad tale here. lol. ill try to keep it short.
two rainbow 2 girls. one from the past who i barfined multiple times before, all of a sudden with no reason she cut me off-still don't know why-i digress. and one recent one, awesome face- just stands out among her peers.
the one from the past cut me off soon after she got implants. prior to them she had no trubble getting barfined, i vaguely remember having to wait days at a time before it was my turn. lol. now she rarely even gets ladydrinks. i got to believe its the implants that is her problem. even after a few years she still has the same pretty face, same body- not fat.
don't know why good earners do it, never will. i do see why bad earners do it- makes sense.most common reason for a girl to dump you completely is if your dick put her out of action for a period where she could not make money. this is a way to accidentally to scare girls off badly. i am not saying this is the only reason but most common one i have experienced. obviously another reason could be she has put her price up and doesn't believe you will pay. another possibility is she has fallen for some guy, and now wants to do real quick jobs only, and perhaps you want more than that.
as for the silly-cones, i agree completely, they are a dime a dozen. unless one of the rarely really professional subtle jobs, they are probably not helping the girl that was previously popular for good natural looks.
i take some girls with completely flat tits, if she otherwise is great. tit size is not that important to me. its more about natural beauty. the fake stuff is no use to me. guys who like everything fake could go lb or buy a doll, right? lol
You mention other girl's names, but not these two. So who are they?I might reveal later, after "Bill C" completes his holiday in a few days time.
Tony Hoeprano
05-07-13, 10:38
I guess for some.
For me it I find it better than ever.As far as streetwalkers, the ones who stand out on the street, not freelancers at the beer garden, Thermos, or discos. I've only seen one good one in a year and she approached me, to this day I've never seen a better one, and that was more than a year ago. Suffice to say, the other day I was at Terminal 21 waiting to see Ironman 3 and I see her with an older gentlemen LOL. I was with the GF and didn't want her to see me LOL. But whoever the guy was, he was in for a good time!
Western787
05-07-13, 11:08
I am not saying this is the only reason but most common one I have experienced. Obviously another reason could be she has put her price up and doesn't believe you will pay. Another possibility is she has fallen for some guy, and now wants to do real quick jobs only, and perhaps you want more than that.How about if she's being sponsored or is in some other similar arrangement? Then just disrciminates more about who barfines her. Also in regard to Bolts-on, they can 1. Increase confidence 2. Make them feel better about themselves 3. Increase their visual appeal looking across a room at them 4. For some guys can actually be a big plus
Singapore wins hands down in both quantity and quality. There's tons of street walkers in the Geylang district. BKK street scene is crap these daysI've heard reports of SWs of various nationaities there, including China, Thailand, Vietnam, PI, Indonesia, etc. In Bangkok I've only seen mostly Thai & a few African & FSR. I'd figure Singapore is quite a bit more expensive, though, & not just for the ladies. It has also been said a number of times the SW there are pimped out, unlike the general rule around NEP, as Mr Enternational confirmed. When was the last time you were in Singapore? The news has been reporting LE crackdowns on the Geylang night walkers. Still, though, probably much more to offer than, say, Malaysia.
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4. For some guys can actually be a big plusYes I know, I was just stirring a bit. I can't fathom why guys like big silicones. They have no visual appeal to me unless look very natural.
I understand when girls with crappy tits get them modified. I don't understand why girls with really beautiful tits want to mess with them. Its not completely about the size I think.
An american guy in the bar other night was with a pretty Japanese girl. He asked me to help make the waitress understand that they wanted to call over a gogo girl with really big tits so his Japanese girl could see how they felt. Perhaps she was contemplating getting falsies and he was trying to put her off the idea. Anyway when I asked he confirmed that they wanted big silicones to touch to see how strange they were. I translated for the waitress. She then asked "silicone"? (to check) and he replied Yes. Then stupidly, she came back with a girl with big natural tits. So we had to explain again: "A girl with really big silicones please!" This time the silicones came over. In the end, he said that her silicones were underneath quite reasonably soft normal tit flesh and that his Japanese girl thought they were nice. So the plan back-fired I think.
Member #4387
05-07-13, 19:00
For me it is only of minor importance how a girl arrange her boobs as long as they are not out of porpotion from the rest of her body (flatchested, biggys or everything in between I like to eat them nipples anyway). Silicone or not I don't care as I am not going to handle them on a regular basis anyway. For regular purpose or in GF material I set higher standards than in P4P. I think a girl should do what she feels is right for herself. If a set of bolt ons are good for P4P business or not I don't know I will for sure not be difficult as long as chemistry are to be had. But if they carry bolt ons I appreciate a well done boob job as those nasty scares can be a real turn off.
I remember a few years back in Bogota I brought back a tiny little spinner to my room thinking she did have some bolt ons as her tits looked huge compare to her bodysize. She was very reluctant in removing her bra and I could understand that when I saw those skinfolders falling down when I finaly made her remove it. These skinfolders was supposed to be her tits. They hanged down probably like 10cm or so (looking like a wrenched wet socks or sth). If I had known her under different sircumstances I would for sure treat her a boob job as I guess she would have appreciated one. Felt sorry for her.
Agreed there will be most action night time. However, my idea of a midday excursion (apart from the obvious) was to get my bearings of places in daylight so to make things easier at night. Also, once the job starts there will be no other daytime opportunities to see the highlights and the quality of the eye candy. I also need to sort out how to get to places from my hotel and better doing that daytime and at leisure rather than at night / after work when a part of my anatomy is demanding urgent attention.
GaliHotel changed. Now in Sofitel Sukhumvit. Could hardly be better.
Gali
Tony Hoeprano
05-07-13, 20:23
I've heard reports of SWs of various nationaities there, including China, Thailand, Vietnam, PI, Indonesia, etc. In Bangkok I've only seen mostly Thai & a few African & FSR. I'd figure Singapore is quite a bit more expensive, though, & not just for the ladies. It has also been said a number of times the SW there are pimped out, unlike the general rule around NEP, as Mr Enternational confirmed. When was the last time you were in Singapore? The news has been reporting LE crackdowns on the Geylang night walkers. Still, though, probably much more to offer than, say, Malaysia.I'm certainly no expert in Singapore but the girls on the side streets of Geylang quoted me $60-80 SD from what I remember. At night, quality was on par with the better looking Thermae girls and the ones I talked to were mostly Thai. Along the side streets were many short time hotels and small massage parlors. In the hotel I stayed at, I saw a lot of johns bringing in their girls and some were very nice. I'm not sure how migrant workers would be able to afford these girls, I saw a lot of nice cars trolling the area for hookers and also parked at the massage parlors. I walked into one of the nearby massage parlor, I can't remember the price he quoted, but it was reasonable. What was not reasonable was the manager said only CBJ was allowed so I gave it a pass.
During the day along the main road, there were a lot of street walkers. These ones looked mostly Chinese, I didn't ask the price though, but the quality seemed pretty good, not stunning, yet far better than what could be found on the streets of Sukhumvit, especially with all those elderly girls plying their trade LOL.
Yes, there were pimps on site, but they were just regular Joe Chinese guy, not Tony Montana wannabes LOL
Today in Suzie Wong (Soi Cowboy) was Anne with whitish skin. She had a great body when she first started at SW. Then she lost weight and her tits shrunk a bit. Recent enhancement has taken them from very good B cup to now a wide slung D (or double D. I don't know exactly). Nipples seem permanently erect now. They are a bit firm but quite an impressive shaped job costing 75000 Baht. Perhaps she has become more in demand with extra large ones. Who knows? I thought her tits were very beautiful unenhanced. Now they are sort of a shock value.
I did not take Anne. Went with Naam and Not, both small tits but known to me as very good on bed. Not the same 2 as other night. Strangely lineup had improved a bit from Sunday night and I did not show up till well past 11PM. Several reasonable choices available.
Seems to be a lack of field reports. Is no one actually trying any new girls or trying any new places in Bangkok?
Or just not willing to share any intel?
Okay we have some reports coming in, I exaggerate, but its not very many.
Is the forum still worthwhile?
I hope it never goes as bad as the World S*x Guide.
A normal oilmassage is about 300bth but how much extra should we pay just for a simple handjob after the massage?
Is 500bth normal so 800 bth in total for massage and handjob?
Scorchin1470
05-08-13, 10:26
Seems to be a lack of field reports. Is no one actually trying any new girls or trying any new places in Bangkok?
Or just not willing to share any intel?
Okay we have some reports coming in, I exaggerate, but its not very many.
Is the forum still worthwhile.Guess it is the low season and tourists are staying home in Europe and USA?
Mind you all the moans from old lags about newbies paying 'over the odds' may just put people off posting.
To them I say 'get over it'. The 250 baht fine is long gone, the 500 L / T vanished years ago and all the latest crop of ladies look like crap.
NicFrenchy
05-08-13, 13:28
just not willing to share any intel?Yup, action and new girls being sampled with now 3 favs for me in the Oilies and 1 in the soapies, but just not bothered to share the intel.
What's the point? To make them popular to the point where I can no longer see them or book them? Thanks but no Thanks.
Remember YOK? That girl was never busy for a couple months but then she became a superstar and some guys were taking her out for days at a time.
Paul Kausch
05-08-13, 16:58
Seems to be a lack of field reports. Is no one actually trying any new girls or trying any new places in Bangkok?
Or just not willing to share any intel?
Okay we have some reports coming in, I exaggerate, but its not very many.
Is the forum still worthwhile?
Yup, action and new girls being sampled with now 3 favs for me in the Oilies and 1 in the soapies, but just not bothered to share the intel.
What's the point? To make them popular to the point where I can no longer see them or book them? Thanks but no Thanks.
Remember YOK? That girl was never busy for a couple months but then she became a superstar and some guys were taking her out for days at a time.Mr. N Frenchy, you are to be commended for your most enlightened attitude. You exemplify the kind of men we want to have contributing to this forum. I have the utmost respect for you. I think we should all offer this gentleman a heartfelt thanks for his contributions to ISG.
All the forums are slow from what I can see. The Singaporean forum seams to have frequent postings but a lot of chatting too. I walked through cowboy yesterday and most of the people there had the thousand yard stare so I never entered any of the places to check inside. Why bother when even the customers outside look like they are in one of Dantes hells?
Member #4387
05-08-13, 17:22
If you are in town when I am there, I will certainly buy you a pitcher of beer! You have entertained me with your exploits and recommendations.I have recovered from my last trip (as the end of my trip was spend with my Norwegian GF this recovery was not difficult) so I have allready booked myself a new ticket to my fav monger city Bangkok. Are you in town around the 29 of May? Then we could do "the grand exploration tour BASH 2013" together?
NicFrenchy
05-08-13, 18:04
Mr. N Frenchy, you are to be commended for your most enlightened attitude. You exemplify the kind of men we want to have contributing to this forum. I have the utmost respect for you. I think we should all offer this gentleman a heartfelt thanks for his contributions to ISG.Say, you are most welcome my brave sir, I am really trying my hardest to please the Populace
soms is surely sailing up as an obligatory visit place for me. i lacks the nastiness from places like [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and lollipop1. the girls are sweet and in to providing service without complaining or teething your dick.
i took the girl next in rotation when i arrived and she was as pleasant as they come. i had tried to make it a luvpuss day so this was place number four and same amount of shots before. i don't quite had it in me today so i had to be satisfied with a dry wimpy little thing of an orgasm. the lady looked exasperated and thought she was providing bad service. i assured her she was super and not to worry. she tried to coax me back down in the sofa so she could get something in the rubber but i know a loosing battle when i see one so i ended it.
damage was 1320+200. fs, a drink and 200bath tip.
A normal oilmassage is about 300bth but how much extra should we pay just for a simple handjob after the massage? Is 500bth normal so 800 bth in total for massage and handjob?I suggest you read the oil massage forum where plenty of infos are available. What you pay to the establishment (the house fee, be it the 300 you mention or more, depending on time and type) has nothing to do with what you pay, separately, to the girl for her services. Her earning comes from what she will mention as tip (or girl fee) and she expects the 500 as a HJ is always on the menu, rising the game at 1000 for a BJ and 1500 for FS. The girls will not mind what we consider a tip 8100 or 200 more) but this is "up to you" and should reward an excellent service, not a normal service.
I have recovered from my last trip (as the end of my trip was spend with my Norwegian GF this recovery was not difficult) so I have allready booked myself a new ticket to my fav monger city Bangkok. Are you in town around the 29 of May? Then we could do "the grand exploration tour BASH 2013" together?Will be arriving June 3 to 8. Haven't settled on a hotel, but will probably be the GP. With BASH open from midnight to dawn, I don't know if can be up that late! The offer still stands, will be glad to buy a pitcher of beer for you or smoke a cigar in front of the GP's Café 11.
Member #4387
05-09-13, 06:33
Will be arriving June 3 to 8. Haven't settled on a hotel, but will probably be the GP. With BASH open from midnight to dawn, I don't know if can be up that late! The offer still stands, will be glad to buy a pitcher of beer for you or smoke a cigar in front of the GP's Café 11.Ok see you then. I have some mongering to attend to in Manila for a few days but I will be in the neighbourhood within your traveldates. WTF are you an early bird. But I will for sure test BASH with or without you. To make sure there will be no GF mix up in BKK this time I have booked tickets for her and a friend of hers to New York so shopping can keep them busy. I can not afford to take anymore chances.
Hi There!
Just back from my short stay in Bangkok, only couple of nights.
Went to Beer garden. During my last trip before this one, I was able to find a little better gal. Looks and body passable although same as the rest have kids.
This time, went to find again. But the level getting down further. End up going to Annies for some rub.
In Annies, same as the past, first CIM and then some medicore massage then f*k for 2nd time. First visit, girl #39, nice and naughty girl but good interaction. 2nd visit #41, bit old but still okay. Both of them said they cum twice with me. Is this true or SOP for them but actually, I can feel they are telling the truth. .
Cheers,
MD
In Annies, same as the past, first CIM and then some medicore massage then f*k for 2nd time. First visit, girl #39, nice and naughty girl but good interaction. 2nd visit #41, bit old but still okay. Both of them said they cum twice with me. Is this true or SOP for them but actually, I can feel they are telling the truth. .
Cheers,
MDThere is no way for others to know what you experienced. Only the girl really knows for sure. What she says is not really relevant. Working girls never cum! Ha Ha. Just kidding. It's naive to believe they never enjoy it even if is not so frequent. Depends on skill of guy and girl's willingness.
Bungee Man
05-09-13, 10:12
Agreed. The street scene is BKK is awful and has been since the floods.I don't quite agree. I was there last month and staying at a hotel in Soi 7/11 near where Dr BJ is. Apart from the local fls and wls there, there were even russkies (russians plying their wares and trade) and I even managed to hit it off with a Turkish wl whom I found in Soi 7. She looked like she is a tourist shopping for dresses from the stalls there. When she saw me and we made eye contact, she came over and got straight to the point asking me whether I want a BJ or not as she said she gives the best BJ town for 1, 500 Baht. Took her back to my hotel (Maxim Inn) and after a round of a good BJ, she proposed fj for another 1, 000 Baht which I agreed and she went cowgirl first, followed by doggie, offered her ass as well before allowing me to finish off with mish. After that she layed with me in bed and chatted. Found out she is from Turkey, a divorcee with 1 kid back home. She comes to BKK every now and then for 2 weeks before going over to the border for another 2 weeks and come back again for another 2 weeks plying her trade. Sorry no photos but she is slim-sized with B cups boobs, slim hips and a 3 holer.
Ok see you then. I have some mongering to attend to in Manila for a few days but I will be in the neighbourhood within your traveldates. WTF are you an early bird. But I will for sure test BASH with or without you. To make sure there will be no GF mix up in BKK this time I have booked tickets for her and a friend of hers to New York so shopping can keep them busy. I can not afford to take anymore chances.Ok, see you when I see you, as the saying goes.
Paul Kausch
05-09-13, 17:02
Actually divulging favorites does have its risk. LOL.I can understand why one would not want to publicize the girls who are good performers; but I thought the point of this forum is to share information about the international P4P scene. If we tell the world a particular go-go girl is a great performer she's going to get more BF and not be as available. That is not an issue with the MP girls as we can always book our favorites in advance. What I don't understand is why someone would post about having identified a favorite girl and then not disclose the girl's name. Why would he bother making the post in the first place?
Strikesfun
05-09-13, 17:02
Bangkok Street: A major change has taken place on Sukum from soi 3 to soi 21. The new stores entrances during the day have remove all the girls in the day time and this is also true for evening until the vendor come on about midnight. The new hotels with drive up have security an also have sent them away. NEP and Soi Cowboy is all that remains. Grace Hotel not the same. And the there were places like Wild Country on Soi 24. Things change.
Not to be negative just want to share this is posted in Phil AC but applies everywhere.
Internet Bulletin Boards & Social Networks.
The internet continues to have both a positive and a negative impact on Angeles City and many destinations around the world.
Through the internet it is now easy to perform a search on a destination and get detailed information about hotels, restaurants, tourist activities, and even nightlife. You can make reservations quickly through email. But, IMO the negative impacts of internet bulletin boards and social media sights far outweighs the positive when it comes to single male tourists visiting the Philippines. Many guys return from a trip to the PI and cannot resist posting explicit photos and details of their trip on the internet without a thought of the impact to the girls or the businesses they name in these posts.
Flash back to the mid 90&65533; s a guy named Rob Valarie posted on a open website that guys could buy a girl on Santos Street for the price of a cheeseburger. It wasn&65533; t long before one of the national newspapers picked up on the story. Within a day, all the national daily papers found the website and wrote more articles condemning him and his web postings. Pressure on the mayor from the President had the police beating the bushes for Rob. He disappeared and his postings stopped. He disappeared and has never been heard from again. But, he had a lasting effect. The pressure on the mayor to clean up the entertainment area led to an extended ban on bikini&65533; s in the clubs even though the girls on Eat Bulaga wore more revealing clothes on daytime TV than was allowed in the clubs of AC.
Over the years other internet posts have led directly to raids on clubs or individuals private residences. Despite very few convictions and incarcerations (most probably because of large sums of money changing hands between the accused and the authorities). One side effect of these raids has been an increased presence of NGO&65533; s with funding to attack the evil nightclubs. In the last few years numerous clubs have been raided on tips that the club employs under-aged girls. In the majority of the raids it turns out that there were no under-aged girls present unless it was the occasional plant by the NGO&65533; s. Still, clubs stay closed for months or even years and some legal employees languish in jail for months or years without any formal charges or hearings before a judge. Still another side effect is increased funding for these NGO&65533; s for making another successful bar closure, even if it is usually temporary.
To combat this problem, many local bulletin boards were converted to pay sites. Most of those that are not pay sites still require a password to access the postings. This has helped shield some of the harmful information from public viewing, but it is only a matter of time before some of these increasingly well funded NGO&65533; s start penetrating local adult sites.
In addition to the NGO&65533; s, there are individuals around Asia putting up websites where people can turn in individuals. These range from: a guy in Cebu that has a &65533; Wall of Shame&65533; about foreigners behaving inappropriately; to the Department of Special Investigation in Thailand which has announced the launch of a facebook page
Franciscass
05-10-13, 03:11
Bangkok Street: A major change has taken place on Sukum from soi 3 to soi 21. The new stores entrances during the day have remove all the girls in the day time and this is also true for evening until the vendor come on about midnight. The new hotels with drive up have security an also have sent them away. NEP and Soi Cowboy is all that remains. Grace Hotel not the same. And the there were places like Wild Country on Soi 24. Things change.Your post as it refers to Angeles sounds informed although my experience from a couple of visits was that it was a wide open cheap (500 baht ST) mongering destination for seniors. However your comments on Sukhumvit are in my opinion somewhat off the mark. It's true that while both Terminal 21 and the new Sofitel hotel have removed vendors from the space in front of their properties the rest of the stretch from 3 to 21 remains the same. The only recent development of note are the men in brown who target tourists lighting up who because there is nowhere to discard it throw the butt on the ground. They are then led back to the "table" and hustled out of up to 2000 baht for littering. Working girls, stalls selling everything from hard core porn to huge dildos (how does your average Thai pussy manage to take one) fake Viagra and a myriad of other performance enhancing pills and jellies are all available. A string of ad hoc booze stalls that spring up from about 10pm on stretching into the surrounding soi's pay the highest kickbacks. The stretch from soi 3 to soi 7 have the highest concentration of and variety of working girls and I for one have not noticed any decline in numbers.
Have not really looked at the non-Thais. I was referring to the Thai scene. \
Tony Hoeprano
05-10-13, 06:53
Bangkok Street: A major change has taken place on Sukum from soi 3 to soi 21. The new stores entrances during the day have remove all the girls in the day time and this is also true for evening until the vendor come on about midnight. The new hotels with drive up have security an also have sent them away. NEP and Soi Cowboy is all that remains. Grace Hotel not the same. And the there were places like Wild Country on Soi 24. Things change.I'm not sure I understand the major change here. If my eyes were correct, there never were hardly any street walkers on the streets during the day time. There may have been a few desperate ones here and there. When was the last time you were in BKK. 1978?
This is like saying a major change has happened in the NFL, all players are require to wear helmets LOL
NeverGetsOld
05-10-13, 11:31
field reports.
my first hour on the continent (3 months ago) i scooped a hot light skinned bad girl 19 why / o spinner at bill board a go go right before close. 2 dorks staring shell shocked, stuck with a bunch of 3's. maybe trying to get my girl after work to avoid bar fine. their loss, my gain. pussy was wet and tight and all time best moans, japanese style, just how i like it. day 2 a really nice fat ass but a jacked up belly at mandarin. day 3 met my girlfriend.
customer stories.
my gf is sweet as can be and speaks good english and makes a lot of her income not even through fucking. many of ballers come through those doors and have paid her great money just for talking. it's really incredible, some of these girls are on the online dating sites and guys sending them money, jewels, and electronics and they never even met them. top earners that are attractive and go with any man can make around 200, 000 / mo i believe. unlike most girls, my girl won't fuck guys older then her dad. i thought that would be easy money for her, maybe they lack endurance or something. she insists they are the grossest, try to stick fingers up her ass at work and such, idk. girls steal each other's stuff every night. the bars [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) them sometimes for petty shit. other expenses like transportation, aids tests, and looking pretty. some girls spend 10, 000 / month on hair. the girl's that get the least action will accept 1k at her place. girls get way too drunk and are at their customer's mercy.
In general things do not change much and change very slowly. However it strikes me that Soi Cowboy has been undergoing a fair amount of change. The lease prices have been going up a lot. That caused the closure of Sheba and a new bar (in Shark group) opened. Not sure if it is getting any business at all. Has anyone been in there?
I believe its bad that the LBs are increasing all the time. Not just Cock-a-two, but saw LBs sitting in front of 5-Star today, a bit of a shock, and Deja Vu had a small number of LBs since years.
The worst problem causing jack up of prices is "the Arab" buying up so many bars and moving in largely unwanted Coyote Dancers. I think there is a place for Coyote but that Soi Cowboy is not really the place for it to do well, and we certainly don't need many Coyote bars in same street. Having been into some of the "The Arab's" bars, I note that they are generally not very busy and appear to have no chance of making good money. The rumour goes that making money is not the point at all, but more to launder money and have an excuse as to where the money comes from when the real money is actually being made on other illicit things.
When other bars' leases comes up for renewal, will they be able to afford the new high prices, or will be gradually see the closing of many of the traditional older style of bars? Will Doll's House, Long Gun, Raw Hide, Suzie Wong, Toy Bar etc. All be facing closure in the not too distant future?
Naturally all those who hate bar-girls won't give a shit, but I certainly get some good fun out of bar-girls, and still like to see a set of naked girls on occasions, so I know exactly what the bodies are like, and so I can sit with girls for significant periods to gauge chemistry.
What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.
OS
Where would be best to find a girl for maybe a week to travel with. I'd like to get a girl when I get into BKK then go to an island with her maybe Samui or Phangan or Phi Phi. I was in Bangkok last month and stuck to a few of the massage palors (Annies, Mangos, Cherry) also used Goldies Agency Bangkok Gold. Didn't make it to into Nana or Soi Cowboy for gogo girls. Never asked the massage girls if they would be down for a trip. I What do you think the daily rates would be? Also any of you can recommend an island over the other?
I'm certainly no expert in Singapore but the girls on the side streets of Geylang quoted me $60-80 SD from what I remember. At night, quality was on par with the better looking Thermae girls and the ones I talked to were mostly Thai. Along the side streets were many short time hotels and small massage parlors. In the hotel I stayed at, I saw a lot of johns bringing in their girls and some were very nice. I'm not sure how migrant workers would be able to afford these girls, I saw a lot of nice cars trolling the area for hookers and also parked at the massage parlors. I walked into one of the nearby massage parlor, I can't remember the price he quoted, but it was reasonable. What was not reasonable was the manager said only CBJ was allowed so I gave it a pass.
During the day along the main road, there were a lot of street walkers. These ones looked mostly Chinese, I didn't ask the price though, but the quality seemed pretty good, not stunning, yet far better than what could be found on the streets of Sukhumvit, especially with all those elderly girls plying their trade LOL.
Yes, there were pimps on site, but they were just regular Joe Chinese guy, not Tony Montana wannabes LOLDoes any of this look familiar, that is the following video of Geyland SWs in 2008?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWlXHGkcok
IMO the looks of those SWs are quite comparable to what I saw working the streets in the NEP area of BKK earlier this year & since 2007.
I doubt much of anything has changed in BKK in the last couple months.
In general things do not change much and change very slowly. However it strikes me that Soi Cowboy has been undergoing a fair amount of change. The lease prices have been going up a lot. That caused the closure of Sheba and a new bar (in Shark group) opened. Not sure if it is getting any business at all. Has anyone been in there?
I believe its bad that the LBs are increasing all the time. Not just Cock-a-two, but saw LBs sitting in front of 5-Star today, a bit of a shock, and Deja Vu had a small number of LBs since years.
The worst problem causing jack up of prices is "the Arab" buying up so many bars and moving in largely unwanted Coyote Dancers. I think there is a place for Coyote but that Soi Cowboy is not really the place for it to do well, and we certainly don't need many Coyote bars in same street. Having been into some of the "The Arab's" bars, I note that they are generally not very busy and appear to have no chance of making good money. The rumour goes that making money is not the point at all, but more to launder money and have an excuse as to where the money comes from when the real money is actually being made on other illicit things.
When other bars' leases comes up for renewal, will they be able to afford the new high prices, or will be gradually see the closing of many of the traditional older style of bars? Will Doll's House, Long Gun, Raw Hide, Suzie Wong, Toy Bar etc. All be facing closure in the not too distant future?
Naturally all those who hate bar-girls won't give a shit, but I certainly get some good fun out of bar-girls, and still like to see a set of naked girls on occasions, so I know exactly what the bodies are like, and so I can sit with girls for significant periods to gauge chemistry.The shophouses on Cowboy are owned by different individuals. If it were one owner, it would have been gone a long time ago as Asoke is one of the most valuable areas in the city. The changes in Cowboy can be partly blamed on "The Arab." Midnight was my hangout for several years till he bought the bar. Ruined it overnight. Higher drink prices, neon,"bait" girls, etc. Sadly many of the other bar owners followed his lead. Cowboy is no longer the ex-pat hangout it was when I moved to BKK. Hangover II did not help either. Sit outside any bar and you will see gawking tourists making their way through the soi. Seeing a Western woman used to be a rarity, now it is common. GoGos are becoming tourist attractions, kind of like Bourbon St in NO or many parts of LV. Back in the day it was the exclusive domain of the monger, not anymore. Hey, that's progress.
The shophouses on Cowboy are owned by different individuals. .Back in the day it was the exclusive domain of the monger, not anymore. Hey, that's progress.History of Soi Cowboy, lifted from another website :
"There are different versions as to how the place came to be known as 'Cowboy'. Here is one of the more accepted ones :
An African American by the name of Edwards was one of the first, if not the first to open a bar in this area, an off shoot of Vietnam R & R, cause Soi Cowboy was there, up and running in the 1970's. His nickname was 'Cowboy' cause he wore cowboy gear and actually rode a horse in and out of that Soi. The popularity of his bar, attracted other punters (bar owners) to the Soi which people then called 'Cowboy'". There should be a monument to honour this gent.
NeverGetsOld
05-11-13, 02:34
Meet very hot 22 Y.O. strong 9. Sensing little to no initial interest, tried a wild move and told her I had a girlfriend which seemed to excite her and asking me questions. Then we drank our ass off all night & danced at a couple spots. 800 damage to me and she also picked up a few rounds. Taxi driver taking forever to take us home. Thinking he is going to cost me a fuck be / see we are both zombies. Negative. Get it in along with BJ and cum on her in the room. We pass out and walk her out. I love when they fall asleep with my cum on them. So naughty. More nights like this. Think I know how to pull 9's and 10's here now. Fuck yeah.
Wolvenvacht
05-11-13, 05:21
A few weeks ago, I visted Soi Cowboy once more and went straight to Suzie Wong, my favourite place in that street. I arrived a bit early, around 9PM but the club was aready half filled. The mamasan showed me to a nice spot, close to the entrance on the left side. This is a good spot as all girls have to pass there when going on and off stage.
As usual in Suzie Wong the girls "dance" naked and it seems they have two groups of girls: one group wearing black fishnet stockings and the other group wearing red fishnet stockings. There is something there for everyone: small tits or bigger tits, shaved pussies or trimmed or bushy, younger or older girls, long hair or short hair, tattoos or not. This time I had set my fancy on a small tits, trimmed pussy, long haired lady and there were indeed several to choose from. I made eye contact with some of these, some appeared not to notice me, some other smiled back and one came straight to me after her dance routine, wearing nothing but her fishnet stockings.
Her name is Tun (or Toon) .35 year old (but looking late 20s) , no kids. I could see and feel she has small and firm tits with big nipples (my favourite) , a firm body but not skinny and a nice pussy with its hair trimmed into a landing strip. I offered her a lady drink and she came back with "whiskey" which I suspect was just cola with ice and water because when I kissed her I could taste no alcohol on her.
After some of the usual chatting we negotiated for LT. Her initial offer was 4000 baht but it was easy to bring it down to 3000 baht. I think that she might have gone down even more as she later confessed business has been slow and she had not been barfined for over 2 weeks. But 3000 baht is OK for me.
Back in the hotel we took a shower together (that is already a promising start) and she started with a slow blow job. I stopped her as I did not want to have all the fun in the shower. I gave her pussy a few licks and got a good look at it. It seemed freshly shaved except for the landing strip, and smelled and tasted fresh and clean.
Then it was off to the bedroom and we got into heavy hugging and kissing. DFK was very nice and got us both aroused. Her nipples were erect by now and I nibbled and sucked them softly. She was riding her pussy against my tigh and I could feel her wetness. Time for me to move to her pussy and sample her honey. How sweet it tasted! Licking and fingering her pussy brought her to an orgasm which I think was genuine since for a few minutes afterwards everywhere I touched her would bring her involuntary shivers as she laid with closed eyes. By now I sported a strong erection and after putting on a condom, I started fucking her in mish. Her pussy was really tight but also very wet, so there was no problem entering her. She moved herself in a nice rhytm and it did not take me too long to have my first orgasm too. We both freshened ourselves up a bit and then watched some TV.
After a while I slowly started to stroke her nipples again and when I saw them responding we DFKed. This time she took the lead and started stroking my dick, licking and sucking my nipples whilst I fingered her pussy and got it dripping wet again. I could not resist and licked and fingered her pussy to another orgasm. She opened her legs and asked me to fuck her again. I turned her on her knees and entered her in doggy style. She was very wet and hot and I got my dick very deep in her. I held her tits in my hands and played with her nipples while fucking her. This was one of the best fucks I had in a long time. After my second orgasm we held each other 'GFE'-style and then I slipped out of her, her honey dripping out of her open pussy.
One more round of clean-up and we went to sleep in each other's arms.
Early morning she got up, showered, dressed, collected her 3000 baht fees (and some taxi money) and with a kiss and a hug left me.
This was once more a memorable fuck with a girl from Suzie Wong. All in all, I have never been disappointed by them: just don't negotiate them down to bargain basement prices but give them a fair fee; treat them nicely both inside the club and in your room and there is a good chance they will give you a good time.
What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.OSWas it usually opened at that time?
Cowboy is no longer the ex-pat hangout it was when I moved to BKK. Hangover II did not help either.The world is also not same as before."Once upon a time", expats were the travellers, were those who saw new countries, sort of front line combats, flying to SEA was regarded as being an explorer.
There was no internet spreading news, informing and suggesting.
Today hundred times more people travels around the world. Emirates alone brings in 5 planes a day into BKK and one or two are A380 machines, plus a few european airlines, plus Qatar, plus Ethihad, Turkish, not to mention the increasing traffic from SEA and OZ / USA. Emirates has a daily flight to Phuket.
All these visitors are not the "expat" type, of course. They are tourists, visiting the country and a percentage is still the "monger-tourist", but it is a mass of them now (as much as the recession reduced a bit the numebrs)
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.
Tony Hoeprano
05-11-13, 06:32
What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.
OSLOL. It closes at 1 AM
BTW, a lot of times as I leave Thermae, I see a gal standing outside who looks like she's 60, is she a working girl?
Coconut8888
05-11-13, 06:54
LOL. It closes at 1 AM
BTW, a lot of times as I leave Thermae, I see a gal standing outside who looks like she's 60, is she a working girl?She used to be a waitress in Thermae, but they fired her because she was too old (58 years old) Now she does odd job for FLs doing.
Odd jobs and watching their stuff.
A few weeks ago, I visted Soi Cowboy once more and went straight to Suzie Wong, my favourite place in that street. I arrived a bit early, around 9PM but the club was aready half filled. The mamasan showed me to a nice spot, close to the entrance on the left side. This is a good spot as all girls have to pass there when going on and off stage.
As usual in Suzie Wong the girls "dance" naked and it seems they have two groups of girls: one group wearing black fishnet stockings and the other group wearing red fishnet stockings. There is something there for everyone: small tits or bigger tits, shaved pussies or trimmed or bushy, younger or older girls, long hair or short hair, tattoos or not. This time I had set my fancy on a small tits, trimmed pussy, long haired lady and there were indeed several to choose from. I made eye contact with some of these, some appeared not to notice me, some other smiled back and one came straight to me after her dance routine, wearing nothing but her fishnet stockings.
Her name is Tun (or Toon).35 year old (but looking late 20s) , no kids. I could see and feel she has small and firm tits with big nipples (my favourite) , a firm body but not skinny and a nice pussy with its hair trimmed into a landing strip. I offered her a lady drink and she came back with "whiskey" which I suspect was just cola with ice and water because when I kissed her I could taste no alcohol on her.
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This was once more a memorable fuck with a girl from Suzie Wong. All in all, I have never been disappointed by them: just don't negotiate them down to bargain basement prices but give them a fair fee; treat them nicely both inside the club and in your room and there is a good chance they will give you a good time.Its my favourite too now that Sheba has closed. There are many girls there are okay for me, above average looks without being stunning. If my favourites don't show its tougher though. There are plenty of very young girls that I don't consider, silicones I don't consider, and fatties also stuck off. Good Performers for me: Bo, Not, Dtom, Naam, Ma, and a couple of others. Anne is stuck off due to the double D enhancements, Dteuan struck off as too selfish, and Lai struck off (despite great body) due to too much acting and bullshit. Ex favourites Noi and Nit have been away long time. Might ring Noi to see how she is doing and when she might return.
I don't say this bar has the best looking girls, but it does have a lot of good realiable girls that do not dissappoint, and I prefer to see them naked. I also finfd this the best place to select a double team.
The two names I was supposed to reveal for Paul I think, was Bo and Dtom, both older and very experienced girls, lacking tits but curvy and great lesbian performers and a great double team. I think Bo is away for a few days just now. Bo works well with nearly anybody. She is really into sexy girls and Dtom claims to be the most skilled clit licker in the place. Double team blow jobs are really great. I like some much older girls too. Dtom looks young, slim and has a very tight pussy, but is probably over 30. She worked Sheba for a while before but SW before that.
Some time ago the two groups were the naked group and the not so naked group. Now they are all required to be totally naked apart from stockings, this is improvement. There are an excessive number of very young girls now. This caters to the Japanese who are fantasizing that they take the girl's virginity and make her scream as they ram her tiny pussy. Possibly the two groups may now be split by age group. There are two sisters there. One is "Not" who I like and has a kid but is just barely legal age. I dare not contemplate her younger but slightly bigger sister even though has a great body.
I won't name the excessively cute girl at SW now, as she is far too busy already. I had to BF her in a hurry to be sure she would not get stolen away. They say sometimes she has up to 4 customers coming for her at the same time, and then she has a stress to decide who has to be dissappointed, or maybe its just whoever BFs first, wins. I have her number so can ring her to line her up so to speak, to avoid missing out. She doesn't like to do doubles but is so cute, it doesn't matter.
Some girls drink a lot of Tequillas (as this is a designated lady drink - I think its special sweetened tequila), but possibly whiskey isn't (I'm not sure) , so few girls are into whiskey, I think. A cola is a "lady drink". Sometimes a Side Line girl may not care about drink commision as has no quota to meet (no salary too) and then will drink anything she pleases. Some girls do not like to drink alcohol at all, most days. Others are drunk every day. So I think its better to ask the girl what she wants to drink but not let her have too much alcohol.
LOL. It closes at 1 AM
BTW, a lot of times as I leave Thermae, I see a gal standing outside who looks like she's 60, is she a working girl?I have seen one answering that description, she is a female pimp, who approaches foreigners departing empty handed.
The world is also not same as before."Once upon a time", expats were the travellers, were those who saw new countries, sort of front line combats, flying to SEA was regarded as being an explorer.
There was no internet spreading news, informing and suggesting.
Today hundred times more people travels around the world. Emirates alone brings in 5 planes a day into BKK and one or two are A380 machines, plus a few european airlines, plus Qatar, plus Ethihad, Turkish, not to mention the increasing traffic from SEA and OZ / USA. Emirates has a daily flight to Phuket.
All these visitors are not the "expat" type, of course. They are tourists, visiting the country and a percentage is still the "monger-tourist", but it is a mass of them now (as much as the recession reduced a bit the numebrs)
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.Yep, sad really. Glad I made it here and got to see the end of "pre-industrial" P4P in Thailand. Still love BKK though. So much else besides the P4P, and hey the oilies are still fun for a romp.
Member #4698
05-11-13, 14:08
The world is also not same as before."Once upon a time", expats were the travellers, were those who saw new countries, sort of front line combats, flying to SEA was regarded as being an explorer. There was no internet spreading news, informing and suggesting.
Today hundred times more people travels around the world. Emirates alone brings in 5 planes a day into BKK and one or two are A380 machines, plus a few european airlines, plus Qatar, plus Ethihad, Turkish, not to mention the increasing traffic from SEA and OZ / USA. Emirates has a daily flight to Phuket.
All these visitors are not the "expat" type, of course. They are tourists, visiting the country and a percentage is still the "monger-tourist", but it is a mass of them now (as much as the recession reduced a bit the numebrs)
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.I remember, just a few short years ago, when there was no internet or even cell phones. I would go to places like Cahuita, Cartegena, Medellin, Cali, Trujillo and Santa Cruz and discover things for myself. I never knew what I was going to find. Sometimes the place was a bust and I would move on quickly and other times the payoff was immense and I would settle in for a while. Working girls were unspoiled back then and free or very inexpensive. There was a thrill and excitement to travel back in the day. Travel was synonymous with exploration and it was much more adventurous pre-internet than it is today. Distant places felt exotic and they were. I think we have lost something. Bangkok in the late 60's and early 70's must have been a really special place. My first visit to BKK was in '89. I also traveled to Phuket then. I had a great time, but I knew I had missed the golden age.
NicFrenchy
05-11-13, 14:44
I think we have lost something. Bangkok in the late 60's and early 70's must have been a really special place. My first visit to BKK was in '89. I also traveled to Phuket then. I had a great time, but I knew I had missed the golden age.Interesting views. I for one am glad I was not a part of the 60s or 70s (or even 80s). I like the world the way it is now and as I have enough cash to burn, prices are not a worry. I love having the world at my fingertips. And I am sore folks in the 60s were just happy with a lousy cock-lick. Was the world as raunchy and open as it is today? Don't think so.
I remember, just a few short years ago, when there was no internet or even cell phones. I would go to places like Cahuita, Cartegena, Medellin, Cali, Trujillo and Santa Cruz and discover things for myself. I never knew what I was going to find. Sometimes the place was a bust and I would move on quickly and other times the payoff was immense and I would settle in for a while. Working girls were unspoiled back then and free or very inexpensive. There was a thrill and excitement to travel back in the day. Travel was synonymous with exploration and it was much more adventurous pre-internet than it is today. Distant places felt exotic and they were. I think we have lost something. Bangkok in the late 60's and early 70's must have been a really special place. My first visit to BKK was in '89. I also traveled to Phuket then. I had a great time, but I knew I had missed the golden age.Agreed. The world is far more generic now. And with that, far less exciting. Places with an edge are fun. Cambodia in the late 90s right after the coup was quite fun as well.
Member #4698
05-11-13, 16:25
Interesting views. I for one am glad I was not a part of the 60s or 70s (or even 80s). I like the world the way it is now and as I have enough cash to burn, prices are not a worry. I love having the world at my fingertips. And I am sore folks in the 60s were just happy with a lousy cock-lick. Was the world as raunchy and open as it is today? Don't think so.Girls were plenty sexed up back in the day and I think more involved in the fantasy of having a white boyfriend. I can't speak of Thailand personally since I was not there, but the South American working girls I knew in the 70's gave it up to me for free back then and they loved to be fucked. I still remember my first SA girl; Mercedes, a beautiful black girl I hung out with in Cartagena for two weeks. The sex was amazing. She taught me how to perform doggy among other things. Now, I am no longer a young man and cannot service a woman like Mercedes 5x in a night like in the old days, but I am better in bed than I ever was and I enjoy female companionship now more than ever too. I have mellowed some. So don't get me wrong. I like it today too. I am not complaining really. I have worked hard over the years and have achieved the financial wherewithal to get what I want when I want it. Nothing can stop me from having a good time and good times can definitely be had in Thailand even today.
In fact, I will probably move to Thailand after certain family obligations allow me to do so. I can't think of a place I would rather be. Still I do have a certain nostalgia for the way things used to be pre internet and pre communication revolution. Aside from hairy pussy, I think we have lost something. Travelling was more adventurous albeit less comfortable than it is now. But you are right. We have gained something too. I remember the first time I came upon the ISG forum. I couldn't believe all the information readily available on my computer screen. What a time saver and a convenience. I am thinking of Mick's soapy parlor review. It would have taken me months to gather all that collective experience the old way. But look out, on top of loss of adventure and over-development of natural areas of beauty like Thai island beaches; we have airport screenings and security delays, swine flu, girls with smartphones on Facebook just to mention a few problems that have cropped up. Modern travel is great, but it comes with a cost.
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.Well said. I think that's what I've noticed the most in the past few years. The "tourist" class showing up en masse looking for short-time (they're on a tight schedule) , the general increase in tourists of all sorts, and the decline in the number of working girls have conspired to make the whole experience very "industrial."
I stopped going to go-gos a couple of years ago. But reading the forums I'm so surprised that many have just turned into fuck factories. 30 minute (or less) short times. Girls competing on how quickly they can make the round trip. Rush, rush, rush. It seems the whole spirit of sanuk is gone.
I'm not going to sit here and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan about the loss of "the good old days." Things change and it is what it is. There have been tons of improvements in BKK over the years too. As Dickens said,"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times."
There is still much old-school sanuk to be had in Thailand. I just don't think too much of it is to be found in the P4P scene these days.
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Interesting views. I for one am glad I was not a part of the 60s or 70s (or even 80s). I like the world the way it is now and as I have enough cash to burn, prices are not a worry. I love having the world at my fingertips. And I am sore folks in the 60s were just happy with a lousy cock-lick. Was the world as raunchy and open as it is today? Don't think so.The world was certainly far less sofisticated. Taking bar girls Long Time was probably the norm. My first trip to Thailand mid 80s, I was with a Farang wife. What a bummer! Actually I still had a good time. Snuck off to a Soapy twice, first time found one accidentally I think. The soapy girls had very little English if any and I had no Thai. Not being able to communicate was sort of frustrating. Early nineties, a buddy who had experienced the 80s and maybe even the 70s showed me the local play up zones, but not really including any Oilies. He preferred the old times as could speak Thai and liked getting to fuck a girl for just $10 or less. In the early nineties still most Soapy girls had little English and I was learning Thai in a big hurry. I liked the Thermae Soapy MP and also the Thermae Coffee Shop after hours. I liked being to take a girl away for several days at a time, and did not get bored by them so easily. I think only Pat Pong upstairs had full nudity in bars in the early 90s, and of course had to beware of rip-off bars even back then.
In the modern day the internet has helped make me aware of a big range of places.
Not correct, that guys were happy with just a cock lick in the old days. For the most part full sex readily available and largely bareback (pre AIDs being a known thing) , however when I had a wife I was not risking bareback. There were some places where could do anything except FS such as Chawala. Some guys enjoyed the challenge of seeing how much they could accomplish while girl still had her pants on. However was possible to meet these girls after work for Full Service.
In the early nineties it was very true that you had to pay a girl to leave, and even then she might be reluctant to go. Sometimes they had never had it so good, and just did not want to leave at all. You had to work hard to not accidentally end up with a girlfriend every day.
The world was certainly far less sofisticated. Taking bar girls Long Time was probably the norm.I am visiting Thailand twice a year and every time is more than a trip there, coming and going. Doing this since 4-5 years. It took me quite a while, as my initiation to Thailand was in Samui where things are far more relaxed and laid back (1000b for a LT and BF for 300, talking about a normal bar lady) , to understand that the bar fine did not mean the girl was not gone from the bar for the night, regardless if she was going to stay with you ST or LT. Samui has always been LT for me, ie till the morning or for a couple of days. It has been in BKK the concept of multiple BF (for the gilr) and therefore multiple ST came to my knowledge. I thought, worst case scenario, thne girl would have gone FL after the ST, freed from the bar.
It is always a learning curve, thanks also to ISG, where you get a lot of inside information.
What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.
OSHow long since you visited BKK. Bars close by 1-2 am.
NicFrenchy
05-11-13, 20:21
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