Bangkok Reports

[AussieDoug]

Don't be so hard on the girls. 18-22 year olds. They don't really to cathc hepatitis, etc before their lives have even begun! You want unprotected go to the nasty places.Wouldn't worry about it, all children in Thailand as matter of course are vacinated against Hep B, maybe they know they may turn into cock suckers later in life.

[Linkwray666]

With regard to the session at Nataree, was the blowjob bareback or with condom?

I ask because lots of gents have reported the girls at Nataree insist on using a condom during blowjobs, something that is a deal-breaker for me.I was at Nataree late in May and received nice BBBJ from a fishbowl girl, did not experience sideliners there so do not know whether they do BBBJ as well. Reports seem to indicate YMMV.

Nataree Papa was very helpful and informative, ask him RE: BBBJ options and if he says no I suppose move on (Tho I do not care for covered BJ some of the Nataree sideliners are so lovely I would happily sacrifice going bare to enjoy a romp with them).

[Marky1]

You are a marketing mans dream. I can imagine you walking in to a car showroom and being talked in to buying the exact same car as your neighbour for twice the price. You'll park your car in your drive with a smug look on your face but who is the winner here? Certainly not you, it's your neighbour and the garage owner. This is an analogy by the way.

Joking aside, it's a naive comment, Do you know what 'supply and demand' is and how it might affect prices? Do you understand how the industry works and how the prettiest girls don't just magically appear on the stage of the top gogo bar on their arrival in Bangkok? Do you realise that the same girls you pay 2000/2500 for from a gogo bar can be found freelancing in Nana Liquid for half the price? Same girl, different price.That's not true. Sure, in the freelance joints there are gogo girls trying to get extra money, but not the superstars which is what I assume you mean by prettiest girls.

[Sir Lancelot]

That's not true. Sure, in the freelance joints there are gogo girls trying to get extra money, but not the superstars which is what I assume you mean by prettiest girls.I'm not suggesting all girls obviously. I always talk to the girls I bar-fine and in almost all cases they're just looking to make as much money as quickly as they can (and good look to them). It seems to me that the gogo girls in Thailand prefer short-time liaisons now more than ever, presumably so they can go back to their bar (either to snare another customer or get lots more lady-drinks) or try their luck elsewhere, like the discos.

I posted a report recently on this page in which I met a very pretty girl from Shark, in my opinion the standout girl I'd seen all night on Soi Cowboy. I took her for short-time and afterwards she told me that she was going to Nana Liquid. She quoted me 2500 baht in Shark but immediately accepted my counter-offer of 2000. So with the bar-fine plus two lady-drinks she cost me nearly 3000 baht. Had I taken her from the disco later in the night, it would have probably cost me half price. She might have even stayed all night too.

I've experienced lots of girls like her. I met a pretty girl in a massage parlour in Pattaya recently and she told me that she went to discos every night. She got 1000 baht per customer in the massage parlour (out of 2200 baht) and she told me that she charges 1000 or 1500 baht short-time in the disco depending on whether she likes the guy!

She also told me that she plans to be in the industry for two years before returning to her province and using the proceeds to set up a salon. In these two years she's going to work as hard as she can and make as much money as she can. A lot of that work won't be in the massage parlour. The same applies to Joy, the girl from Shark.

[Tony Hoeprano]

do you understand how the industry works and how the prettiest girls don't just magically appear on the stage of the top gogo bar on their arrival in bangkok? do you realise that the same girls you pay 2000/2500 for from a gogo bar can be found freelancing in nana liquid for half the price? same girl, different price.nana liquid? not trying to dispute what you're saying, but i peeked my nose in there one or two times and all that was to be found were a few derelict sex tourists and just a few girls- if their looks were a batting average, would be hovering the mendoza line lol.

many of the better looking gogo dancers will go to scratchdog on soi 20 or sometimes insanity and climax.

[Mr Enternational]

No I didn't realize 2500 rainbow girls go for half at nana liquid. I can surmise the girls who don't have customers working rainbow go to nana liquid and get 1250.

I f you found lots of gorgeous girls in Pattaya-good for you!

Sub saharian hookers go for a burger and a bowl of rice-whats your point. You can't compare thai prices to pilipinos or indos.And why can't there be a comparison? But it is okay for you to make a comparison of women and prices somewhere you have never been (Pattaya) to the women and prices of Bangkok. As if when a girl goes to the bus station in her home town there is some judge there saying,"You are a stunner. You must go on the bus to Rainbow in Bangkok where they will pay 2500. You are ugly. You must go on the bus to Beach Road in Pattaya where they will pay 500." The shit just doesn't happen. There are women from every category in every venue. You are paying for the ambiance, not the girl. For your favorite girl from Rainbow whom you happily pay 2500 may just as well go for 200 in her hometown brothel. And that is comparing Thailand with Thailand and not PI or Indo as you said could not be done.

[DRRonin]

nana liquid? not trying to dispute what you're saying, but i peeked my nose in there one or two times and all that was to be found were a few derelict sex tourists and just a few girls- if their looks were a batting average, would be hovering the mendoza line lol.

many of the better looking gogo dancers will go to scratchdog on soi 20 or sometimes insanity and climax.nana liquid is owned by the same guys who run nana plaza and manage many of the go-gos there. so in fact a number of the girls went to nl after work finished at 2am at the behest of their boss. but i am pretty sure nl has been shut down for business for about a month. something to do with closing times being shortened and not making it possible to be profitable. i went a couple of times a few months back and saw a few go-go girls hanging out. but that doesn't much matter any more. i am sure many go-go girls break the rules but in theory they are not suppose to go trafficking for dick after work as it would allow guys to just wait till closing time to make a deal. they can be fired if caught out, but with the shortage of good looking girls in the go-gos these days i can't imagine they are fired for anything short of multiple homicides.

[Member #4387]

That's not true. Sure, in the freelance joints there are gogo girls trying to get extra money, but not the superstars which is what I assume you mean by prettiest girls.Neither you or me do have all the answers. Sure you find stunners in freelancejoints not wanting to be under managment and run they own freetime and "worktime". Superstars, what we mean about that? The movie stars, FHM models lookalike? Well even so most of us will never meet them no matter where we go and superstars we will probably not run into if we are not well connected, well heeled and good looking our self. I believe superstar inside this sites means the most beautiful girls as in Sir L report. And maby even most beautiful girl he ever encountered? We are all different in our likings. Go Go girls are by far not the most beautiful girls in the monger world. You have G-clubs, hi so escort service and certain normal nightclubs but some are of course on a look for a sugardaddy or golddiggers. But I don't think Sir L meant superstars like in the real superstars.

[BionicMan]

Nana Liquid is owned by the same guys who run Nana Plaza and manage many of the go-gos there. I am sure many go-go girls break the rules but in theory they are not suppose to go trafficking for dick after work as it would allow guys to just wait till closing time to make a deal. They can be fired if caught out, but with the shortage of good looking girls in the go-gos these days I can't imagine they are fired for anything short of multiple homicides.The rules might set for principles but I do doubt they can be enforced. If they do not go to NL they go elsewhere, and it is plenty of options, or they can FL just a bit off lower Sukh. NEP owners cannot spread their own investigation team around the town chasing their own girls. Go imagine even recongnizing them: we talk about maybe 200 or more still on duty at closing time. What if a girl who has been BFat 11 pr midnight is happy with the ST she earned and sets herself free on the FL market or. In a club? Maybe does not happen often as I think they get a cut off the BF so are ecnomically interested to go back to the gogo for another pick up.

We also know some girls do BF themselves for ahving a night out of their own (whatever they do, then)

[DRRonin]

the rules might set for principles but i do doubt they can be enforced. if they do not go to nl they go elsewhere, and it is plenty of options, or they can fl just a bit off lower sukh. nep owners cannot spread their own investigation team around the town chasing their own girls. go imagine even recongnizing them: we talk about maybe 200 or more still on duty at closing time. what if a girl who has been bfat 11 pr midnight is happy with the st she earned and sets herself free on the fl market or. in a club? maybe does not happen often as i think they get a cut off the bf so are ecnomically interested to go back to the gogo for another pick up.

we also know some girls do bf themselves for ahving a night out of their own (whatever they do, then) true but that does not take into account the legendary bangkok grapevine. rule no 1. there are no secrets in bangkok. gossip is an art form here. it is also an industry. believe me, if a go-go girl was freelancing on a continuous basis she would be seen and it would be reported to the mamasan of her bar by some co-worker who was pissed at her or just because information is power. nothing goes unseen here. there is always a friend of a friend of a friend smsing some girl that you are in the house. the cia has nothing on these girls.

[Rjsss212]

whoa, watch it! that was the bi-monthly tuesday nite bangkok thread meeting. careful or you'll be voted off the island.


but i peeked my nose in there one or two times and all that was to be found were a few derelict sex tourists

[NicFrenchy]

Sorry if this report is too long. All in all a great trip, I am already planning the next one. Will be staying much longer next time, at least 2 and possibly 3 weeks.Haven't read such a complete and informative report in a while. Well done.

[NicFrenchy]

I will now use the Ignore Button in respect of NeverGetsOld. Suggest others do likewise. End of subject for me.If only it was that easy, I'd use it more often. I have that cockroach "Harold444" on ignore mode For years now but the insect keeps showing up everytime someone quotes him. He's like a bad case of Herpes, he always keeps coming back.

[Traveler1234]

If only it was that easy, I'd use it more often. I have that cockroach "Harold444" on ignore mode For years now but the insect keeps showing up everytime someone quotes him. He's like a bad case of Herpes, he always keeps coming back.Bump ++++++++

[Linkwray666]

Haven't read such a complete and informative report in a while. Well done.A huge compliment coming from one of my favorite contributors here.

Thank you sir.

[Linkwray666]

Nice reporting Linkwray666 I was in Bangkok and Pattaya the same time as you, and walked a very similar path visiting many of the same places. You know of what you speak. Looking forward to hearing about your Pattaya experiences.

SunLoverThank you for the kind words, I have learned a lot here and am happy to finally be able to contribute something.

Will try to do the Pattaya report this week, not so much to report there as I only stayed one day.

[Linkwray666]

I am back in the US after an 8 day stay in Thailand.Dammit. Such a long winded report and I still managed to leave out something RE: freelancers.

Hunting was good at Nana Car Park of course, delicious fish in a barrel. Also easy to find some really nice gems walking Sukhumvit Road from Nana BTS to Asok BTS heading to and from Soi Cowboy, sampled on various nights of the week between 10PM and 12Midnite or so. A large concentration of ladies with at least one or two lookers in front of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel / Thermae at all times I visited, also found a couple of super friendly beauties amongst the many many ladies in the few blocks between Thermae and Asok / Ratchadaphisek. Taking a casual stroll there the ladies approached me one after another, a nice low pressure / low cost smorgasbord of womanflesh. All types here, from the most plain to the girl next door to cute and sassy ones to some real hotties to a few truly gorgeous ones and prices are generally "up to you". I did not visit this area late night but would guess there might be many more to choose from just after Soi Cowboy shuts down, similar to NCP at closing time?

[Sir Lancelot]

As if when a girl goes to the bus station in her home town there is some judge there saying,"You are a stunner. You must go on the bus to Rainbow in Bangkok where they will pay 2500. You are ugly. You must go on the bus to Beach Road in Pattaya where they will pay 500." The shit just doesn't happen.Precisely. When girls gravitate towards a city, they take time to find their feet and perhaps to realise their own worth. People who think that the prettiest girls are magically fast-tracked to the top bars are extremely naive (especially the King of Naive on here). Granted the cream rises to the top but in any pay-for-play scene pretty girls can be found anywhere. I've taken streetwalkers prettier than Rainbow 4 girls I've been with for a third of the price. I bet the girl I went with in the seedy downtown brothel of Jonquera, Philippines, is prettier than most on the stage at Rainbow 2. It's one of the things that makes pay-for-play so exciting, there are so many gems to be found if you are willing to actually look for them.


A manager of a well knwon PATTAYA agogo post photos of his hot staff on another forum. I can see why guys get 1500 long time. LOLOh wait, you've visited a website? I'm sorry, here was me thinking you know nothing about Pattaya. Joking aside, your gem of a comment ("I know pretty and Pattaya aint a pretty town girlswise. I've never been there though") does rather prove the point that you talk a lot about things you know nothing about.


I'm on my way back! You can all look forward to my Rainbow reports. LOLI clicked on your name and it seems that pretty much all of your 195 posts are utter nonsense that add absolutely nothing to the forum. But now you're on your way back to Bangkok, why not post a detailed report and some photos for once? All you do is talk the talk, it's time to walk the walk.

Also, dare I say it, why not expand your horizons and visit other bars than the Rainbow's? I was recently in Bangkok and the girls on Soi Cowboy were generally prettier in my opinion. The girls in Baccara and Shark were every bit as pretty as those in Rainbow 2 and 4. Another recent contributor said exactly the same thing.


LOLAs a matter of interest, how old are you?

[Syzygies]

You are a marketing mans dream. I can imagine you walking in to a car showroom and being talked in to buying the exact same car as your neighbour for twice the price. You'll park your car in your drive with a smug look on your face but who is the winner here? Certainly not you, it's your neighbour and the garage owner. This is an analogy by the way.

Joking aside, it's a naive comment, Do you know what 'supply and demand' is and how it might affect prices? Do you understand how the industry works and how the prettiest girls don't just magically appear on the stage of the top gogo bar on their arrival in Bangkok? Do you realise that the same girls you pay 2000/2500 for from a gogo bar can be found freelancing in Nana Liquid for half the price? Same girl, different price.I am glad you were joking since no one is picking a girl purely because she is the most expensive, unless off their rocker. Its simply you choose a girl that you like or appeals, and then not always surprised to learn that she is not so cheap. In gogo bars however, I rarely negotiate a price. It seems that it is expected I will pay fairly. Even my most recent Baccarat girl who could not remember me from a previous year when I went with her, did not negotiate the short time price.

Okay true the prices do vary by location. A girl who cannot stand the idea of working in a regimented gogo bar even if free-lancing could go for less in her chosen free-lancing environment. Why she would want to go for half price is a little hard to understand, other than as you say too many girls and not enough customers. Once girls know they are well above average they will start charging above average though, unless they are too shy to do so.

I am certainly used to the best lookers in Soapies being generally significantly more expensive than the plain Janes.

[Linkwray666]

A few Truly gorgeous ones doing street level work? Could have been ladeeboys-some are Truly gorgeous.There were plenty of Lady Boys mixed in with the real girls as there are in all the other areas I visited in Bangkok, I was not talking about the Lady Boys.

Thank you for letting us know you find Lady Boys gorgeous but they are not for me and likely of no interest to most of the others here.


Sorry I just don't buy into that. LOL.Wasn't selling anything, just reporting on my experiences and suggesting this area might be worth a look for those adventurous types in search of freelancers as I had good luck there.

Take a look or don't, it won't bother me either way.

By the way, what is your preferred location for picking up hot B1000 freelancers?


And to top it of they leave price UP 2 U. LOL. Thos e who use this line are usually not that in demand and hoping for guy to way overpay!Any guy can overpay or not, it is truly "Up to you". I choose to not overpay, how about you? Never gave a BKK freelancer more than B1000. YMMV.


I'm in bed at 2am.Sorry, didn't mean to disturb your sleep.


I think whats available on the streets I s what you find in the bars and massage parlours less the hot and desireable ones. LOL. In other words those who were on display for 5 hours and had no takers. LOL.You sure "LOL" a lot.

I remember one post from you a month or so back where you did not "LOL". I was shocked! No joke.

Nice speculation on your part, but if you are in bed at 2AM you will never really know, will you? I was only recommending that someone might want to take a look, if you have no desire to do so no problem, you seem to have the whole BKK thing worked out to your satisfaction, congratulations to you and enjoy your experiences as you see fit.

Hmmm, by "in bed at 2AM" do you mean in bed sleeping? Because if you mean you are in bed fucking I have to add that while in Thailand I was generally in bed at 1PM.

And at 4PM.

And also at around 6PM.

And again at 10 PM.

And sometimes at 2AM.

Plus or minus an hour or two in any direction on any given day.

My report was based on my visit to Bangkok during low season and at that time most of the bars I went to (and high end massage places like Nataree since you mentioned massage places) had more than 10 girls for every guy in the place. Baccara probably had 30 girls for every guy. I think with this kind of man to woman ratio there will be plenty of girls who do not get picked, and at bars like Baccara and Shark where there are lots of good looking women it would seem many of the hot ones might end up not getting picked on any given evening. My guess was maybe the girls in Soi Cowboy would spill into a nearby area after closing, just a guess and any additional input based on your experience is welcome.

If you have valid intel on where the unpicked hotties go after Shark and Baccara close please do share with the rest of us as I am sure it would be useful info for many of us and greatly appreciated, if they do not fill the area surrounding Cowboy as happens at Nana Plaza then by all means tell us all where. If it is inconceivable that they might pour into the surrounding area Nana Car Park style I understand, but where do they go? Tell us, Harold, for the love of GOD, PLEASE TELL US!


I walk between nana bts and asok all the time at various times of the day-not once have i seen a walker of the street who is anything i would want to pay for.lolDid not walk that area during the day, only 10PM to Midnite. Probably the same hours you spend at Rainbow 4 pining away for your regular barfine / crush.

Have you EVER seen a street walker in Bangkok that you were willing to pay for? Any beautiful ones? Any that were at least cute? Where did you see them? This would be useful information that some of us would be interested in, so please do share some of your knowledge. You seem to spend a lot of time in Bangkok, you must have tons of useful information to share with the rest of the class.

So you have never seen a FL on Suk you would be willing to pay for, I did not see anything in Rainbow 4 I was willing to pay for, I think we may call the rule of "to each their own" into play here and move on, although I bet if you showed me the 2 or 3 girls at Rainbow 4 you thought were beautiful and if I showed you the 2 or 3 FLs I found among the hundreds on Suk that I thought were beautiful I would bet we might find some common ground.

For the record, I did see a couple of great looking girls at Rainbow 4 (though not nearly as many as at Shark and Baccara) and went there mostly because you are constantly writing about the place. Did not take anyone from Rainbow 4 or any bar because of the high prices and was able to find ladies just as lovely in both NCP and on Suk. If you have not had the same experience I understand and empathize, but surely you realize that just because you have never seen or experienced something does not mean it does not exist?


I respect all opinions.lool. .I am sure you respect the opinions of others exactly as much as others here respect your opinions.

[AfAsia]

Feed a pigeon, it will be back day after day dropping it's disgusting parasitical waste, and then it LOL. Stop doing so if you want said pigeon to migrate elsewhere. LOL.

Our former Mayor Livingstone, London, adopted this policy and it resolved the issue.

[Sir Lancelot]

Dammit. Such a long winded report and I still managed to leave out something RE: freelancers.

Hunting was good at Nana Car Park of course, delicious fish in a barrel. Also easy to find some really nice gems walking Sukhumvit Road from Nana BTS to Asok BTS heading to and from Soi Cowboy, sampled on various nights of the week between 10PM and 12Midnite or so. A large concentration of ladies with at least one or two lookers in front of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel / Thermae at all times I visited, also found a couple of super friendly beauties amongst the many many ladies in the few blocks between Thermae and Asok / Ratchadaphisek. Taking a casual stroll there the ladies approached me one after another, a nice low pressure / low cost smorgasbord of womanflesh. All types here, from the most plain to the girl next door to cute and sassy ones to some real hotties to a few truly gorgeous ones and prices are generally "up to you". I did not visit this area late night but would guess there might be many more to choose from just after Soi Cowboy shuts down, similar to NCP at closing time?Quality freelancers can definitely be found. I stayed in Nana Hotel. Not the best hotel but the location is great and I liked walking past the freelancers in the car-park whenever I went anywhere. Most are quite rough of course but I saw some surprisingly nice ones. One evening I wanted to take a photo of the new Nana Plaza sign for my diary but when I zoomed in I noticed that I had also snapped various freelancers in the car-park. It's not the best photo but the girl in the leopard-print top was pretty. She was young, had a nice body and if you put her on stage in Rainbow 4 with a 2500 price on her head, the class clown would be drooling!

[Puttex]

No tips for me on this subject?


I soon of to Bangkok and I am sooo looking forward to it!

I'm going 10 days all alone.

I want to be able to get girls in some way all 24/7 but were to go in what time...

[Puttex]

Anyone knows what happends behind he curtins in the private booths?

It cost 400bath to go in there whit a girl but you get any in there or you can just tuch them or what?

Anyone here tried it?

[Linkwray666]

Feed a pigeon, it will be back day after day dropping it's disgusting parasitical waste, and then it LOL. Stop doing so if you want said pigeon to migrate elsewhere. LOL.

Our former Mayor Livingstone, London, adopted this policy and it resolved the issue.As I recall the good Mayor also used birds of prey to tear the pigeons limb from limb and some say he used poison as well. I like the idea of feeding them things that make them explode as this seems to be good fun, and if you can simply blow their little minds and render them incapacitated that is always pretty neat too. Or maybe it would be more entertaining to just laugh at the silly pigeons until they leave voluntarily?

Just having some fun, and point well taken.

Erm, unless I am the pigeon in question, in which case I shall try to be more careful where I leave my droppings.

[Johnie]

Question:

Do they give BBBJ in SOL or are they always covered?

Johnie,

Fellow Monger.

[Member #4387]

If only it was that easy, I'd use it more often. I have that cockroach "Harold444" on ignore mode For years now but the insect keeps showing up everytime someone quotes him. He's like a bad case of Herpes, he always keeps coming back.Could not agree more. But I guess actually herpes are more easy to keep down atleast compare to this H444. He will never go away. If he goes away from his carecenter I guess some nurse or his mother steps in.

[IndianVisit]

I am Indian. Working in Middle East. Today I am starting about my trip to LOS. There are 3 reasons for that.

First, I have seen mongering scene at Bahrain, Dubai, Delhi and Kathmandu. With my apologies to all most of blogs / websites and forums seems more biased and full of information by interested parties possibly attached to hotel and tourism industries.

Secondly there is lot of racial remarks. Stinky, clumsy, cheap Charlie Indian. I had not found so in Middle East or Indian subcontinent. I went to Thailand. I was expecting that lots of girls and gogo bars will refuse to entertain me.

Thirdly you tube / forums and blogs are farang dominated. Internet is not monopoly of farangs; lots of Asian, Indian Iranian and Pakistanis do go and want to learn from net.

[Linkwray666]

As I get into BKK late evening, I may just do some street window shopping to see whats available in the wee hours. So many guys say hotties available on the streets for 1000 baht it must be TRUE! Or maybe ill go to a Rainbow and bargain the hell out of a hot girl. LOL.They are out there, you will have to walk around a bit which honestly sucks in the heat and you have to keep your eyes open but in my experience / opinion there were 2-3 keepers out of the hundreds I saw on the street each night.

Worth it if you enjoy the hunt, I enjoy walking and looking for hidden gems even if I do not find any but yes it is much easier fish-in-a-barrel hunting if you just go to a nice air conditioned bar, sip an overpriced drink and pay the extra money for the barfine. As I mentioned earlier, on my next trip I will be focusing more on bargirls and will probably take them from Shark, Baccara, and Rainbow.

I love the thrill of finding a bargain, but if there were none I found worth doing on the street of course I would have paid the extra money and taken the girls in the bars, I am not exactly a Cheapie Charlie (I do not haggle, I am happy to spend money on the girls who I have been advised will be amazing performers at places like Snow White and Devil's Den, I tip well when it is well deserved) but I also see no point in being a Wasteful Wally and overpaying for something that is available just outside the bar doors (or within a short walk) for far less.

You may call me Thrifty Theodore.

[Paul Kausch]

I am Indian. Working in Middle East. Today I am starting about my trip to LOS. There are 3 reasons for that.

First, I have seen mongering scene at Bahrain, Dubai, Delhi and Kathmandu. With my apologies to all most of blogs / websites and forums seems more biased and full of information by interested parties possibly attached to hotel and tourism industries.

Secondly there is lot of racial remarks. Stinky, clumsy, cheap Charlie Indian. I had not found so in Middle East or Indian subcontinent. I went to Thailand. I was expecting that lots of girls and gogo bars will refuse to entertain me.

Thirdly you tube / forums and blogs are farang dominated. Internet is not monopoly of farangs; lots of Asian, Indian Iranian and Pakistanis do go and want to learn from net.Welcome to ISG. We are a rather eclectic group. Mongering is about the only thing we all have in common. You'll encounter some great guys and some total a$$holes; most of us fall somewhere in between these two extremes. We fight, bicker, insult and occasionally try to be helpful to one another. Looking forward to your perspective and contributions to the forum.

If you're diligent about RTFF (taking everything you read with a grain of salt) and ask intelligent questions, you will learn a great deal on this forum and have a much more enjoyable time in Thailand.

[Nclpimp]

Unless you ask for it covered it would always be BBBJ and then some.


Question:

Do they give BBBJ in SOL or are they always covered?

Johnie,

Fellow Monger.

[IndianVisit]

i reached bangkok airport at6. 10 pm. tourist visa on arrival was easy. mainly they were interested in hotel bookings and air ticket of return. unfortunately my checked in baggage was left at abu dhabi. eithad airways help desk promised to deliver my luggage early morning or even earlier at my place of stay. i had planned to stay at dormitory accommodation in a hostel very close to nana area. it was my first night and new place and idea was to look around and sleep. i took free map at airport and reached makkasan. airport express. by mrt link at petchaburi and i reached sukhumvit station. with no luggage in my hand and passport. 1000 baht and 900 us dollars and 2 debit cards i walked along odd side of road towards soi 1. there were girls around but nothing impressive. close to bts nana and soi 7, soi 5 there was more variety. girls at welcome massage centre and adjoining areas looked pretty. of course lady boys were more attractive. at my hostel, atmosphere was good. cozy, homely and smiling receptionist. i was alone in dormitory. i took quick bath and was on road with my plan to hit first saphan kwai. i strolled to bts nana. on the way i checked nep. it was around 9 pm. lot of hustle bustle. people entering gogo bars but i did not find anyone coming out with bargirls. more like tourists visiting. maximum crowd was at rainbow 2. heavy make up on girls and ladyboys. no one smiling and girls with attitude. i found in thailand if girl has nothing to do then she starts eating. at ground floor, vodoo, one girl was standing outside. she held my hand and wanted me to barfine her. i think 1500 + 700. she said she had accommodation and car. she was not bad looking 7/10. i left nep in 15 minutes. 2 reasons. recently i had read in? stickman weekly blog that bar girls will hardly spend 10 to 15 minutes and people coming out of st hotels as if they have been cheated. secondly as indian we run after fair color. most of girls were tanned or medium color. i was not stopped in any bar for entering and peeping.

politely refusing ladyboys on way and i got digits from 3 girls for possible calling them to my hotel which i had booked for next day. one from nana hotel car parking another from corner of soi3. there were 4to 5 african girl. i have seen many beautiful sexy girls from africa in dubai. after changing money in soi 7, i took train to saphan kwai. first i hit rainbow and one opposite it with only thai script. then i went to ted 99 and harleem. rainbow had got beautiful girls but language was big barrier. i drank one beer with one girl. damage 320 baht. one who could speak english was not of my taste. the bar which had no english sign had some stunners. rather all were above average. 6to8. the mamas an knew english and i requested for a young beautiful girl. close to perfect. after 15 minutes i asked about st. mammasan told me 2200. i had some different information. later on i felt the girl is not comfortable in my company so told her to leave with drink in hand. another girl was sent and she spoke english. i spent 30 minutes with her. she was average looking. she gave me her mobile number and agreed to come to my hotel next day at 2 pm. after visiting other 2 dance bars, i left saphan kwai at 12 night. paid 200 to taxi to drop me close to grace hotel

[Luvpuss]

hit town at midnight. was well rested after 17 hours in business class. got a fastrack pass for immigration, but did not need it. from my first foot of the plane to my hotel on soi 6, it only took 50 minutes.

there was no line at immigration. the agents were actually waiting for passengers.

no traffic at all on highway to nana. taxi was only 255 b.

after check in hit [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. bbbj and fucked her in the booth.

then picked up a nana sw for lt. nice gal with blond hair pam age 28 from korat. good fuck and she loved to cuddle. she was out the door at 0830.

again hit up [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. one of my faves. was there. bbbj, fucked her in the booth.

had some breakfast and went to soi 11. met nin age 27 down the hallway (the first set of mp's from suk) at the last mp on the right very shy girl. no massage got right to the action. had a great time.

got some work done at the hotel. had some lunch. then took skytrain to tulip's. i love tulip's. beautiful girl age 28 with great jlo ass rocked my world.

all sessions have been bareback. 4 of the 5 cum in pussy.

i love this place so much. i am so excited about the next 2 weeks.

motto for the trip: lick it, eat it, fuck it, cum inside it!

[BionicMan]

I reached Bangkok Airport at6. 10 pm. I left Saphan Kwai at 12 night. Paid 200 to taxi to drop me close to Grace hotelPretty much detailed report of a first time visitor. Showing that RTFF helps in conscious buying, or not buying. Those 200 baht seem a lot to me for a BKK ride, even at midnight.

[Linkwray666]

I like you man.

30 girls for each horny guy in baccara? 50 guys in baccara would mean 1500 girls? Good god! You really don't need to exxagerate to make points.Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no way there were anywhere near 50 guys in Baccara (or any other bar in Soi Cowboy) when I was there in late May, maybe I went on a slow night or at the wrong hour (I was only at Baccara for maybe 30 minutes tops) but there were TONS of women and hardly any customers. If 30 women to 1 man (including the girls upstairs on the glass ceiling) is a generous estimate based on the time I spent there it is not off by much.

Why don't you pop by Baccara next Monday or Tuesday evening around 10PM or 11PM and give us an accurate up to the minute headcount of both men and women in attendance, though of little interest to most here surely it would be of far greater value than speculating on what business might or might not have been like on the days you weren't there.


Please leave shark out. Any place that has happy hour knows they are not top tier bar. LOL.I mentioned Shark because they had (IMO) the highest ratio of hot ladies versus average / cute etc. At the times I visited, also some of the sexiest and friendliest ladies I met in Bangkok. Don't care what tier they are in, had fun there, saw some rather lovely ladies, will be back.



God bless you if you find top Rainbow quality girls on the mean streets for 1k. .

You know what they say, the good lord helps those who help themselves. You will certainly never find any hotties in the street by NOT looking for them. Find them or don't, I wish you well in whatever you choose to pursue. But just remember the old saying about those who say something can't be done being interrupted by those who are doing it.


My fav. Ex. Is Spunkys-highly recommended by some- total nudity but no where is it packed, and it is occupies a very small space. Girls just not that hot. Ugly girls naked draws shit. LOL.Spunky's? Never heard of the place. Sounds gross. As I recall there was full nude and lesbian shows at Suzy Wong, saw it once and see no reason to ever go back, was not attracted to a single lady in the place.


Its not just me who thinks Rain. And Big B has hot girls.Definitely not just you, I agree, there were some hot ones at Rainbow and Bacarra and I doubt any red blooded heterosexual man could see the hotter girls at those places and not find them extremely attractive. You are preaching to the choir, son.


Happy hour is the only time I go to sharks. Not bad value at 70 baht, horrible value at regular price.Suddenly you are concerned with saving money?

[Duniawala]

I am Indian. Working in Middle East. Today I am starting about my trip to LOS. There are 3 reasons for that.

First, I have seen mongering scene at Bahrain, Dubai, Delhi and Kathmandu. With my apologies to all most of blogs / websites and forums seems more biased and full of information by interested parties possibly attached to hotel and tourism industries.

Secondly there is lot of racial remarks. Stinky, clumsy, cheap Charlie Indian. I had not found so in Middle East or Indian subcontinent. I went to Thailand. I was expecting that lots of girls and gogo bars will refuse to entertain me.

Thirdly you tube / forums and blogs are farang dominated. Internet is not monopoly of farangs; lots of Asian, Indian Iranian and Pakistanis do go and want to learn from net.First of all, no need to apologize. Most blogs have to make some money so they promote their business. Nothing is free.

Secondly, Stinky, and Cheap Charlie Indian are not racist remarks. They are facts. You live in Dubai and you are surrounded by fellow Indians and Arabs. So you are used to their behavior and smells. Believe me, there are Indians who are so disgusting in their manners and attitude, that I would like to send them to a place where sun don't shine. And yes there are stinky Indians. I had the misfortune standing 100 feet downwind of an Indian on a harbor cruise boat in Hong Kong.

Thirdly, internet media is dominated by farangs because they produce better content. Indians just keeps putting their films and film songs on You Tube.

Finally, I have no clue as to why are you coming to LOS. To show that you are better? That's your 3 reasons? Get that chip off your shoulder that an Indian is better than everyone else. Just be a good human being and you will have lots of fun. Sure, there may be some who won't like you (thanks to your fellow Indians) , but don't let that bother you. Remember, if you want to have a GREAT time you will need to establish some relationship with some girls. You will then get a GF Experience. Otherwise, you are just in a working girl bar like anywhere else in the world. You will probably have a good time.

And oh, For 200 B I could take a taxi almost all the way to the airport. Judging by your other report either you are a very savvy traveler or this is not your first visit. Either way you are doing well.

[AssLover945]

Question:

Do they give BBBJ in SOL or are they always covered?

Johnie,

Fellow Monger.All BJ bars here give BBBJ, almost never covered.

2 days Back I was getting a BJ inside SOL, when a guy stood at the door with the same Questions you had. Was it you?

LOL

[AssLover945]

Anyone knows what happends behind he curtins in the private booths?

It cost 400bath to go in there whit a girl but you get any in there or you can just tuch them or what?

Anyone here tried it?Try and tell us what you can do with the girls inside.

Maybe they give a BJ?

Anyway it is just 400 Bahts, no harm trying

[Gorgon]

This town will be my end. I have been in town 7 hours and already out 5k for four shots.

I was unable to rest in my dump of a hotel, arabs are shouting it up in the hallways and being dicks like are want to do. Also being bored so why not sleaze it up? Take a chance on a fourth shot. Balls are sore from abuse so the plan was some cheap sleaze entertainment in patpong. Finding a particular place is hell with all the fucking shit in the market being in the way. Wanted to try rose bar as they supposedly had a bigger place than SOL. They do have some more bar seats and a dingy ST room next to the toilets.

Was offered a 90bath drink and they immediately started to sell me on a BJ. They seemed to prefer doing it in the ST room but I would have none of it. Any blowjob was going to be in the bar area or what would the point be? One lady got to work but I was unable to shoot so they sold me on a team effort with 2x ladies. This also did not work so I pulled one of them and requested FS, the other one got jealous but who cares. They were not comfortable with having fucking in the bar area but now I was committed so we took it to the back room. Standard FS with ending in BJ. I'm not shy so I just walked out in the buff to the ladies lavatory to try and wash my junk and hands. Was a feeling to walk the few steps naked in a bar. Damage ended at 2500 bath. 800 BJ fee for lady one. 1200 for FS lady and some tip and drinks. Not cheap some might say but they worked for it believe me.

If only the washington square stuff still existed, I would have loved to experience the nasty bar there.

[Phordphan]

No tips for me on this subject?Nobody is going to take you by the hand and lead you to 24/7 girls. You're going to have to do the leg work yourself.

RTFF. Post where you'll be staying. Ask specific questions. You'll get better answers.

Oh, and if you're planning on doing 40 girls you'll want to bring plenty of money.

[Linkwray666]

Ok Theodore!

Don't take me so serious!Done.


2 or 3 out of hundreds that interest you doesn't help your argument about finding hot girls on the street.Obtuse much? Two or Three real high quality gems out of hundreds of girls, that is how treasure hunts work. There were also many who were "do-able", lots of them I would call "cute", a few who were "pretty", many "flawed beauties" lots of "average" and a bunch of "unattractive".

This also describes the mix at most of the bars I visited, a much higher ratio of unattractive and plain on the street of course but walk past them and they are gone, right?

Hmmm, come to think of it,"2 or 3 that interest me out of hundreds I saw" also describes what I found in the bars I visited.

You say you walk that area all the time, pay attention to your surroundings and benefit from the experience or don't, I lose nothing either way.

I am sure you have much, much more to say in your attempt to prove a negative but I am guessing others here might find this entire conversation tiresome and repetitive so I am finished with it.

Carry on, and have fun doing whatever you choose to do!

Sincerely,

Theodore

[Sir Lancelot]

Hmmm, come to think of it,"2 or 3 that interest me out of hundreds I saw" also describes what I found in the bars I visited.Very true. On my recent night out in Nana Plaza I had a shortlist of 2 or 3 girls at the end of the night who I rated as strong bar-fine candidates, out of probably 2 or 3 hundred girls. The same applies for my trip to Soi Cowboy. So to 'only' have 2 or 3 freelancers out of 100 that you think are attractive is pretty good going. It only takes one gem and the effort was worthwhile. One of my prettiest finds was from the street near Nana. In fact one of my prettiest girls ever was from a slum!

Quality can be found. Sometimes it can be like a needle in a haystack but there are undoubtably gems out there. When I was in Pattaya I walked along Beach Road on my way to Walking Street each night. It's funny that people use Beach Road as an example of ugly freelancers (including the Class Clown on here, despite the fact he has never been to Pattaya) but out of the 200 girls who sat on those concrete benches each night, there were undoubtedly some nice girls. Most were older and not my cup of tea but some were young and pretty. In fact to give you a sneak preview of a forthcoming diary entry, I suggested that if you took the top 10 girls on Beach Road and put them up on a gogo stage, with nice makeup and sexy outfits, it would be extremely popular.

By the way, I really enjoyed your report recently.

[NeverGetsOld]

Motto for the trip: Lick it, eat it, fuck it, cum inside it!Great reports. Don't like the feeling of cum all over my dick so not a creampie guy but fascinating to know how much of them take it.

[Rodwint2]

See you outside in a mist of cigarsmokes next Friday. My inbox full sorry about that.Sorry, my trip was kind of a bust with being under the weather and jet lag. I won't be able to make the 6 pm at the Australian Pub. Just trying to get packed and to the airport will be a chore tomorrow morning.

[Member #4387]

Sorry, my trip was kind of a bust with being under the weather and jet lag. I won't be able to make the 6 pm at the Australian Pub. Just trying to get packed and to the airport will be a chore tomorrow morning.Ok point taken I will only spend 1 night at the GP and so I move on to one delightful regular spinner for the last 5 days of this trip. Manila was hard on me so I pretty much have only energy for 1 more night out handling the FL market the way I know how to do it. Would be great with a BASH pick up as Climax is getting to me and to many girls know me there by know and even so the are compansated and not promised any rosegarden by me they tend to create some sort of unpleasant scene lately. Safe journey back home.

[Lotus303]

This town will be my end. I have been in town 7 hours and already out 5k for four shots...Great report. Rose Bar is as dirty and as nasty as it gets, but fun! I was quoted 600B for a BJ or 1000B FS and that was only last week, but as I have said before, I am handsome man LOL!

[DRRonin]

As I get into BKK late evening, I may just do some street window shopping to see whats available in the wee hours. So many guys say hotties available on the streets for 1000 baht it must be TRUE! Or maybe ill go to a Rainbow and bargain the hell out of a hot girl. LOL.Absolutely. Those 1000 baht street hotties are everywhere. It's hard to walk down Sukhumvit without bumping into one or two of them. Sometimes I momentarily forget where I am and think I have accidentally come upon a beauty pageant. And when you are done with them, motor on down to Pattaya because I understand that a lot of Beach Road girls could be working in go go's if they only wanted to, but apparently they prefer the fresh air and the 500 baht fares. All I can say is that the ugly women of Thailand are happy that so many Farang are willing to fly half way across the world to pay them for cheap sex. Their mothers thank you, their fathers thank you and especially their children thank you.

I think a lot of these guys who rave about the beauties they find in lower Sukhumvit would be just as happy screwing a tree trunk and then telling us how many orgasm's the tree trunk had.

By the way, speaking of street girls, not to alarm anyone but I noticed that a certain scummy poster is back in town and bragging of his shooting sperm into poor desperate women again and that reminded me of two conversations I had recently with two ex-street girl workers. Apparently about 6 weeks ago there was a mass on-site testing of girls in Nana Plaza and many street girls were also allowed to be tested for free. According to these two girls,"many" of the street girls tested positive for hiv and are still working the beat. No idea if it is true or rumor, but it should give most of us pause and to be careful.

[Goatscrot]

I think a lot of these guys who rave about the beauties they find in lower Sukhumvit would be just as happy screwing a tree trunk and then telling us how many orgasm's the tree trunk had.So true so true. I rarely see anything worth a load on the street and actually rarely in the gogos. Oilies are also slim on talent. When I want to gaze on beautiful women during the day, I head to the malls, and at night Thong Lo. There are more beautiful gals in BKK than anywhere, but these days very few of them are working girls.

[DRRonin]

So true so true. I rarely see anything worth a load on the street and actually rarely in the gogos. Oilies are also slim on talent. When I want to gaze on beautiful women during the day, I head to the malls, and at night Thong Lo. There are more beautiful gals in BKK than anywhere, but these days very few of them are working girls.Most of the street girls these days have been around so long they should be designated as landmarks.

[Sir Lancelot]

Absolutely. Those 1000 baht street hotties are everywhere. It's hard to walk down Sukhumvit without bumping into one or two of them.Nobody is saying that there are street hotties everywhere. I suggest you read posts properly before trying to be clever. The majority are girls you wouldn't give a second glance to but there is the occasional gem. The same applies to Beach Road believe it or not. But if you're not prepared to look, you certainly won't find.

What I find amusing is that the spirit of these forums is that people share information. I love the gogo girls of Nana Plaza, of Soi Cowboy and of Walking Street (where I believe the gogo girls are prettier) and last year visited almost every bar in Angeles. After each trip I post a diary sharing my experiences and, this is key, I post photos too. You can actually see the girls I have bar-fined. I'm not a giddy first-timer, I've probably been to more gogo bars than 99. 99% of people on here.

So if you like those same kind of gogo girls, why can't you be open-minded when I tell you that I saw a girl in Nana parking lot that could easily have been one of the prettier girls on the stage in Rainbow 4? (and by the way, not every girl in Rainbow 4 is a stunner!)

Why can't you believe it when I say that Beach Road had some pretty girls (admittedly some small diamonds in a lot of rough)? Sure they'd charge higher prices but they're still there.

Why can't you believe that a gorgeous girl I bar-fined in Shark told me she goes to Nana Liquid?

Why can't you believe that one of the prettiest girls I have taken was effectively from a slum? (using your twisted logic this would be impossible, she'd be immediately zapped on to the stage of some high-end bar as soon as she reached legal age by some kind of mystical Gogo Guru).

Because if you can't believe other people's opinions on this site then why bother using it at all? You have a hopelessly naive perspective that the prettiest girls must always be on the stages of the best gogo bars which simply isn't the case.

[IndianVisit]

Furthur from last report.

It was 1 am. I walked first to NANA and then from g Soi3 to Soi23. Same faces. Ugly obese Africans, pretty lady boys average looking girls at open bars. Politely refusing lady boys I reached soi7/1 and confirmed my booking for next day at world inn and started towards soi cowboy. After Soi 15, very close to BTS ashok, there were ordinary looking girls at open bar. One held my hand and made me sit with her. She wanted to go with me with 1500 +300+350 system. I refused. She again offered for 1000 for her. She was almost pleading. Ordinary looking around 20 minimal makeup and small statured. Somehow I agreed. We went to short time hotel. Just at entrance to Soi23. In room she used mouth wash. We had soft kisses and then I started to help her in undressing. I opened her bra and put my hands in front for breasts. It was flat. I was shocked. Are you lady boy? Don't you know? He asked me. Very funny situation. All my readings failed. Height, broad shoulder, adam apple and voice. Nothing I could make out. I looked in his eyes. There was feeling of dejection and hurt. I had already paid. I started to leave. He pleaded to stay for some time as he will cut sorry figure before hotel staff. I understood. We waited for 15 minutes. In silence. I patted his face and left. Down I waited for 10 more minutes and tried to come over the shock. Then I had not come for blowjobs at naughty gogo bars. Only 2 girls were worth attention, one when I talked found to have braces. Other quoted usual rates. But the way she talked I lost interest. When I go to market even petty shopkeeper treats customer with better way. It was not personal. General atmosphere was like that.

Coming back I found that lady boy was sitting with his friends. I smiled and waved hands so that he feels more comfortable before his friends. He smiled nicely. In 10 minutes I was in my hostel. Exchanged smiles at reception and went to my room. My luggage had not come. Unshaved and without changing clothes I let myself fall on bed.

9 hours. 2600 bahts and in return got experience

[Goatscrot]

Most of the street girls these days have been around so long they should be designated as landmarks.Only surpassed by the relics at the Beergarden.

[Rjsss212]

SPOT ON! Though you left out the daily Miss Universe Pageant at beer garden and the throngs of talent at the Grace.


Absolutely. Those 1000 baht street hotties are everywhere. It's hard to walk down Sukhumvit without bumping into one or two of them...

[Rodwint2]

Ok point taken I will only spend 1 night at the GP and so I move on to one delightful regular spinner for the last 5 days of this trip. Manila was hard on me so I pretty much have only energy for 1 more night out handling the FL market the way I know how to do it. Would be great with a BASH pick up as Climax is getting to me and to many girls know me there by know and even so the are compansated and not promised any rosegarden by me they tend to create some sort of unpleasant scene lately. Safe journey back home.Have a safe trip back!

[Member #4387]

Just arrived into BKK this eve after a delayed flight from Manila I thought of maby going to BASH. Though have I not so long time ago got reports from back home that my half pinay in my house is pregnant. This means I have 2 pregnancies going at once. One in Quezon City Manila and one in my country. This will probably mean I have to narrow down my mongering a bit atleast until the first baby is born. How I will tell my GF I also have one girl pregnant with me (atleast I think it is mine so far but DNA will be had as soon as possible but so far I pay for best treatment incase it is my child) in Manila. This is getting worse day by day but since I am going to stick with my responsibilities and not run away from neither one of them and I will choose my GF any day this gets me to question my mongering. So tonight Friday I think I will close it down for a while where it all started and as far as I remember the first decent mongersituation I put myself into was Spasso. I will have my last take out from there tonight going soon. I ofcourse question this will be my last trip into BKK as I love the place but something today made me think. Like what am I doing. Starting to having babies then you are playing with real fucking lifes damn it. And deep inside I am a nice chap, friendly and humorsitic. Born on the bright side of life and never had any real trouble except from a situation I put myself in due to horninsess.

I will end my trip with the most beautiful of the tahichineese girls I know (regulars). And we will go away for a few days before I head back home and face reality. I will write reports though from my experiences on this travel. They have been quite a few both here in BKK and in MNL.

[DRRonin]

Nobody is saying that there are street hotties everywhere. I suggest you read posts properly before trying to be clever. The majority are girls you wouldn't give a second glance to but there is the occasional gem. The same applies to Beach Road believe it or not. But if you're not prepared to look, you certainly won't find.

What I find amusing is that the spirit of these forums is that people share information. I love the gogo girls of Nana Plaza, of Soi Cowboy and of Walking Street (where I believe the gogo girls are prettier) and last year visited almost every bar in Angeles. After each trip I post a diary sharing my experiences and, this is key, I post photos too. You can actually see the girls I have bar-fined. I'm not a giddy first-timer, I've probably been to more gogo bars than 99. 99% of people on here.

So if you like those same kind of gogo girls, why can't you be open-minded when I tell you that I saw a girl in Nana parking lot that could easily have been one of the prettier girls on the stage in Rainbow 4? (and by the way, not every girl in Rainbow 4 is a stunner!)

Why can't you believe it when I say that Beach Road had some pretty girls (admittedly some small diamonds in a lot of rough)? Sure they'd charge higher prices but they're still there.Sure anything is possible. I've never won the lottery and I never pick the Final Four. So maybe I am just unlucky and am in the wrong place all the time. But I live in BKK 8 months of the year right off of lower Sukhumvit, so I am out and about all the time walking around for various reasons from morning to early morning. And I just don't see any stunners or anything that even comes close. A few are at most ok if you weren't aware that they have been out on those same seedy streets for years now and have had more traffic pass through them then the Holland Tunnel. That tends admittedly to bias one's opinion. So in the spirit of this forum I am just throwing out a different perspective. People will make up their own minds when they come to Bangkok, but spending a lot of time looking for good looking street workers is a waste of time unless you like the exercise. They just aren't there except perhaps when the moon is in the Seventh House and Jupiter aligns with Mars. To paraphrase Sam Cooke, I don't know much about history, don't know much about biology. But I do know an ugly woman when I see one and here and on Beach Road I see plenty of them.

[Johnie]

All BJ bars here give BBBJ, almost never covered.

2 days Back I was getting a BJ inside SOL, when a guy stood at the door with the same Questions you had. Was it you?

LOLNo it was not me, and thank you as well, Ncipimp. I guess my question was based on the premise, false or not that Patpong bars are places where punters get ripped off. My MO is never to ask a question in public that I don't already know the answer to. Saves embarrassment.

I have enjoyed BBBJ at Dr. BJ and Soms Haven recently, in the privacy of their booths or rooms, but just thought that the public nature of the SOL operation, which I am looking forward to, may necessitate a cover.

Thanks again gentleman and remember to "keep the faith"

Johnie

[Rodwint2]

Just arrived into BKK this eve after a delayed flight from Manila I thought of maby going to BASH. Though have I not so long time ago got reports from back home that my half pinay in my house is pregnant. This means I have 2 pregnancies going at once. One in Quezon City Manila and one in my country. This will probably mean I have to narrow down my mongering a bit atleast until the first baby is born. How I will tell my GF I also have one girl pregnant with me (atleast I think it is mine so far but DNA will be had as soon as possible but so far I pay for best treatment incase it is my child) in Manila. This is getting worse day by day but since I am going to stick with my responsibilities and not run away from neither one of them and I will choose my GF any day this gets me to question my mongering. So tonight Friday I think I will close it down for a while where it all started and as far as I remember the first decent mongersituation I put myself into was Spasso. I will have my last take out from there tonight going soon. I ofcourse question this will be my last trip into BKK as I love the place but something today made me think. Like what am I doing. Starting to having babies then you are playing with real fucking lifes damn it. And deep inside I am a nice chap, friendly and humorsitic. Born on the bright side of life and never had any real trouble except from a situation I put myself in due to horninsess.

I will end my trip with the most beautiful of the tahichineese girls I know (regulars). And we will go away for a few days before I head back home and face reality. I will write reports though from my experiences on this travel. They have been quite a few both here in BKK and in MNL.To take responsibility for those kids you bring into the world is very commendable. Thousands of mongers have left bastard kids all over Asia, Africa and Europe for generations. You have my respect for taking reasonable responsibility (meaning getting the DNA checked) and being willing to take care of your children. Good luck with your life!

[IndianVisit]

It was 1 am. I walked first to NANA and then from g soi3 to soi23. Same faces. Ugly obese Africans, pretty lady boys average looking girls at open bars. Politely refusing lady boys I reached soi7/1 and confirmed my booking for next day at world inn and started towards soi cowboy. After soi 15, very close to BTS ashok, there were ordinary looking girls at open bar. One held my hand and made me sit with her. She wanted to go with me with 1500 +300+350 system. I refused. She again offered for 1000 for her. She was almost pleading. Ordinary looking around 20 minimal makeup and small statured. Somehow I agreed. We went to short time hotel. Just at entrance to soi23. In room she used mouth wash. We had soft kisses and then I started to help her in undressing. I opened her bra and put my hands in front for breasts. It was flat. I was shocked. Are you lady boy? Don't you know? He asked me. Very funny situation. All my readings failed. Height, broad shoulder, adam apple and voice. Nothing I could make out. I looked in his eyes. There was feeling of hurt and dejection. I had already paid. I started to leave. He pleaded to stay for some time as he will cut sorry figure before hotel staff. I understood. We waited for 15 minutes. In silence. I patted his face and left. Down I waited for 10 more minutes and tried to come over the shock. Then I had not come for blowjobs at naughty gogo bars. Only 2 girls were worth attention, one when I talked found to have braces. Other quoted usual rates. But the way she talked I lost interest. When I go to market even petty shopkeeper treats customer with better way. It was not personal. General atmosphere was like that.

Coming back I found that lady boy was sitting with his friends. I smiled and waved hands so that he feels more comfortable before his friends. He smiled nicely. In 10 minutes I was in my hostel. Exchanged smiles at reception and went to my room. My luggage had not come. Unshaved and without changing clothes I let myself fall on bed.

9 hours. 2600 bahts and in return got experience

[Sir Lancelot]

A few are at most ok if you weren't aware that they have been out on those same seedy streets for years now and have had more traffic pass through them then the Holland Tunnel. That tends admittedly to bias one's opinion.Not all streetwalkers follow your cliché. The occasional one is young and pretty. I stayed at Nana Hotel recently and while I freely admit that there were lots of average and below average girls, there were some nice ones. I didn't partake in their services as I only passed them on the way out to the gogo bars or massage parlours but in four days I saw two pretty, young, slim girls who could quite easily be on stage in one of the bars in Nana Plaza.

I took a photo of the Nana Plaza sign one day (about 5pm I seem to recall) and when I zoomed in I noticed another girl standing in Nana parking lot (see attached). I'd walked past her a few moments earlier and she was very easy-on-the-eye. She's wearing the leopard pattern top in this photo and is waving. It's not a great photo but she could easily have been up on stage in a gogo bar.

[Sxxxx]

It was 1 am. I .Excellent reports. Also different from the usual stuff dished up. Don't stop, LOL.

[Tony Hoeprano]

It was 1 am. I walked first to NANA and then from g soi3 to soi23. Same faces. Ugly obese Africans, pretty lady boys average looking girls at open bars. Politely refusing lady boys I reached soi7/1 and confirmed my booking for next day at world inn and started towards soi cowboy. After soi 15, very close to BTS ashok, there were ordinary looking girls at open bar. One held my hand and made me sit with her. She wanted to go with me with 1500 +300+350 system. I refused. She again offered for 1000 for her. She was almost pleading. Ordinary looking around 20 minimal makeup and small statured. Somehow I agreed. We went to short time hotel. Just at entrance to soi23. In room she used mouth wash. We had soft kisses and then I started to help her in undressing. I opened her bra and put my hands in front for breasts. It was flat. I was shocked. Are you lady boy? Don't you know? He asked me. Very funny situation. All my readings failed. Height, broad shoulder, adam apple and voice. Nothing I could make out. I looked in his eyes. There was feeling of hurt and dejection. I had already paid. I started to leave. He pleaded to stay for some time as he will cut sorry figure before hotel staff. I understood. We waited for 15 minutes. In silence. I patted his face and left. Down I waited for 10 more minutes and tried to come over the shock. Then I had not come for blowjobs at naughty gogo bars. Only 2 girls were worth attention, one when I talked found to have braces. Other quoted usual rates. But the way she talked I lost interest. When I go to market even petty shopkeeper treats customer with better way. It was not personal. General atmosphere was like that.

Coming back I found that lady boy was sitting with his friends. I smiled and waved hands so that he feels more comfortable before his friends. He smiled nicely. In 10 minutes I was in my hostel. Exchanged smiles at reception and went to my room. My luggage had not come. Unshaved and without changing clothes I let myself fall on bed.

9 hours. 2600 bahts and in return got experienceAnother reason why you should never pay first. Always make sure you're getting what you've bargained for and no unpleasant surprises!

Regarding the quality of street walkers, in one year, I've never encountered ONE hot chick and most are very average and if someone is on a short holiday he'll just be wasting his time saving a few dollars when he can get something good at the gogo, disco, Thermae, or massage parlors. Not to mention you'll be soaked in sweat and soon have a nasty case of B. O. I think too many attractive girls out there have better options to peddle their pussy on the streets!

OTOH, if you ting tong farang with low standards then you'll be like a pig in slop haha

[Member #4387]

As I hereby declare a lower mongerrate to spend more time in phils to monitor babysituation and simular situation back home I went with a big grind in my face into Spasso. Since it was Friday it was far above a beachroad LT (for some) in covercharge fixed price at 800bht. Inside heaps of people at my arrival around 00:30am and this more or less usual Spasso liveband playing oldy goldies covertunes for the seemingly aging crowd. I think I never infact did notice, and this is no disrespect for old people as I will get there myself (some even think I am there allready at my start 40ies) , but wow 50plus average malecrowd I would state if someone did ask me to pick an ageguess (no one did). There were loads of beautiful women.
I took an hauntinground around the bar inside to look for gems and even if some of them where occupied by some malecompany I felt pretty sure this would work out well for me at the end based on all the smiles I got. I guess we all get smiles walking inside a P4P play place but I feel a bit bad when actually they even don't hide it while sitting with another customer. Hm.
Sat down as far away from the stinking tunes as possible next to some chicks working a fellow, I believe, mongerer. I just smile at them and him but he did not like it very much and asked me to leave. He was getting quite hostile so I felt the urge to move my ass a few tads and found some available seats next to the window at the back. The girls did obviously not like the mans attitude and so did not I but I like a friendly mongerlife so I never push it provocaly long and rather back down before things got ugly. I guess I would use less energy to take him down than swiping my dinner table but hey I monger and I am going to pay for it and there were loads of avelabilites present.
After calling off a few dates I, in a drunken state of mind, had sat up last weekend I looked up and the girls headed my way. The old mongerer right after. Oh shit this can get ugly but I did realy not do anything wrong. He screamed to the girl ""and they laughed at him. I managed to keep my smile inside me until he turned around. I realy didnt want to compete so better off hiding. Well the girls were nice and I had in the beginning just thought of bringing the skinniest of them "home". I sat down, according Spasso standard (the same as monger nightclubstandard), with one 8 rated and one 7 rated (7 a bit on the chubbyside but what she lacked in looks she defended with a cheerful attitude). Chemistrybuilding and shipping a few drinks before I asked of both of them was available. They hesitated a bit and claimed they where cousins (I guess that means prob just good friends). As they had a tad simular looks I asked if I could call them sisters and they agreed upon my request.
Skinny girl 29yrs and a tad more chubby "sister" 35yrs. Never asked height but approx lets say 165 on each of them. Well dressed in Spasso outfit. Casual classic smart dresses. So we headed back home to Grand President after a good hour or so playing inside Spasso with no more angry men approaching. And they sure made it a good closure session for my Spasso life. They adviced me they were not into lesbo and never did they earlier work as a couple (prob BS but who am I to do investos around this).
Back in room I had to guide through the session working the girls anticlockwice so they did not touched eachother so much. But they did a fine job all the time one BBBJ me while the other DFK or I DATY'ed her. For the FS I entered both standing as dogs on the bed with me on floor. After a while I missionised them in turns while the other was nice enough to work my behind as in rimming and some ballicks. This felt great so I shot a pretty big load on both of them faces (COM) maby to soon but who counts minutes.
We sat down had some hotdogs bought at 7-11 and relaxed while I started pussyplay with chubby one (by far not fat). Both would have been viewed as stunners along the low Sukhumvit Road hehe I believe (I don't push this further as ranting goes on and on as I occationaly find some ok decent Biergarden women for pumpsessions). Much of the same was repeated a couple of more times and I managed them to drain me 3 times until I let them out at around 6am or so.
One girl is ok to have sleep but two gets to crowded. I put 6000bht inside skinnys purse and asked her to share. They smiled and walked away. I guess a certain Spasso discount exists after all. I would gladly paid them 5K each but I will prob find sth else to use the money on from now and until I leave on Wednesday or Thursday this comming week as ms thaichineese likes it expensive (and so do I atleast a bit lux). I will provide photos of all my takeouts during my BKK stay at a later stage(except regulars ofcourse but as some of you know I am more than happy sharing FL`s as long as I get sth back). Now time to change hotel as a regular never can meet nor find me staying in a mongerinfected area like Soi 11.

[BangBangBang]

Hi,

Do not hesitate to pm me if interested.Can't PM you. Seems your account is too new or something? Try PM me. I am here this week and getting started.

[Marky1]

It was 1 am. I walked first to NANA and then from g soi3 to soi23. Same faces. Ugly obese Africans, pretty lady boys average looking girls at open bars. Politely refusing lady boys I reached soi7/1 and confirmed my booking for next day at world inn and started towards soi cowboy. After soi 15, very close to BTS ashok, there were ordinary looking girls at open bar. One held my hand and made me sit with her. She wanted to go with me with 1500 +300+350 system. I refused. She again offered for 1000 for her. She was almost pleading. Ordinary looking around 20 minimal makeup and small statured. Somehow I agreed. We went to short time hotel. Just at entrance to soi23. In room she used mouth wash. We had soft kisses and then I started to help her in undressing. I opened her bra and put my hands in front for breasts. It was flat. I was shocked. Are you lady boy? Don't you know? He asked me. Very funny situation. All my readings failed. Height, broad shoulder, adam apple and voice. Nothing I could make out. I looked in his eyes. There was feeling of hurt and dejection. I had already paid. I started to leave. He pleaded to stay for some time as he will cut sorry figure before hotel staff. I understood. We waited for 15 minutes. In silence. I patted his face and left. Down I waited for 10 more minutes and tried to come over the shock. Then I had not come for blowjobs at naughty gogo bars. Only 2 girls were worth attention, one when I talked found to have braces. Other quoted usual rates. But the way she talked I lost interest. When I go to market even petty shopkeeper treats customer with better way. It was not personal. General atmosphere was like that.

Coming back I found that lady boy was sitting with his friends. I smiled and waved hands so that he feels more comfortable before his friends. He smiled nicely. In 10 minutes I was in my hostel. Exchanged smiles at reception and went to my room. My luggage had not come. Unshaved and without changing clothes I let myself fall on bed.

9 hours. 2600 bahts and in return got experienceCome on. This is surely someone trolling.

[Member #4387]

Personally I wonder what the hell you are doing too. LOL. Its never too late to learn that you've been a bad bad boy. LOL.For once I will agree with you. You have no idea how hard this is to admit to an irritater as yourself. LOL

[Sir Lancelot]

Went to big Baccara last night. SAme old same old. Actually quite pleasent as many good face to oogle!No bar-fine? No photos? Come on, everyone is waiting with baited breath to see the girls who Bangkok's Mr Quality Control goes with!

Joking aside (a joke because I know you won't submit any), go to Shark on Soi Cowboy and Mandarin in Nana Plaza. Some very nice girls.

Ps. I noticed that you left a few comments on the Pattaya thread. Why? You've never been, you ludicrously say there aren't any pretty girls (despite the fact you've never been) and you say that you have no plans to go?

[IndianVisit]

Second day 17th may 2013. I got up at 9. 30 am. My luggage had not come. I planned to check oily massage parlors. My research had shown me that there is much concentration at emporium and adjoining soi 22, 24 and 26. I walked for 1 hour looking for some good place; most oilies did not have any lookers. Most were deserted. May be it was 11 am. All famous oilies mentioned in blogs, nothing was there. I entered one BK48 I think and they showed me photos. I asked for services. For me lips is most important place. The receptionist pointed to services written and recommendation. There were 2 girls with ++ for DFK. One was busy. Photos looked 8/10. The other girl had just arrived and was preparing for make up. Charges 2200. She was brought outside though she was reluctant as she was without make up. Anyhow turned out to be different and was 5/10. Still I thought ok. Suddenly I saw on card that she was BBBJ ++ and anal rimming ++. So I politely exited the centre. Used public telephone booth to confirm that my luggage had arrived. I reached motel at 12. 30, took bath, changed clothes, shaved and thanked receptionist. Taxi took me to soi 7/1.

At hotel I called 2 numbers which I had got yesterday. It looked they can come at 4 pm. I told I will ring again if possible at 3 pm. ; I looked around in beer garden adjoining areas places in soi 7/1 and main road soi3, soi5 andsoi7. Well 2 things were clear to me. Most areas were empty. Only place there were few girls was beer garden where some girls tried to draw my attention. There were actually no girls but women. One pretty lady I sat with and bought drink for her. She agreed to go with me at 1500. But she got confused when I suggested the menu. Hugging, kissing groping and talking. She got confused. She rather got surprised and refused. To her it did not make sense.

At 4. 00 pm I, using metro, reached Hui Kwang area. I had seen lots of photos of various models working in soapy massage. From morning experience it was clear to me that these are highly photoshoped. So I directly went to nataree. I had read in forum by a real tourist that Nataree is having fair colored girls. It took one minute to choose one from available girls. All were trying to draw attention. Inside room I talked to her my preference and slowly she became comfortable in my company. Next t one hour was relaxing. She asked me about any drinks. I am teetotaler I refused but asked her if she wants anything. She took some cold drink or water. During bath she mentioned that have I just got soapy massage done at other centers. I said no. But why? She said that you are very clean. I asked her how much she will be getting from this 2000 I paid. It was 1250. She told me that is very boring job. Whole day you sit like showpiece. While coming down she yelled from behind. Handed me a piece of paper. You can call me anytime. I asked how much if I call her to my place. She said up to you. I smiled 1000 ok for you. She smiled back. You are gentleman and it is ok.

I may forget to pen down little important information. Best exchange rate I got in soi3 and one outside walking street in Pattaya close to 7/11. Worst was in China town and on the walking street. Secondly it is difficult to eat in Thailand if you are vegetarian. I got Indian food at soi3 at reasonable price. Pattaya Indian food was more costly. 7/11 was having option of vegetarian packet containing rice. Thirdly Uzbeks in soi3, grace hotel and around were all 30 plus, heavy structured to obese and were of Arab taste. Same type may be seen in Broadway in Dubai

[IndianVisit]

I wanted to check as much area as much possible. At 5. 30 pm I took BTS pass and went to last station beyond on nut. It was soi 68 or 70 on right side. My destination was soi 78. State area. My source was internet. I think" midnight eye". Around 6 pm I traveled across soi 78 and then went to soi 76 but I could not make much out of it. It is Thai dominated areas. I tried to ask taxi drivers or motorcycle drivers but either did not understand me or pretended not to understand me as probably they did not want non Thai people to come there. Before planning to go back I happened to see one door having sign in English. It was just close to entrance of soi 78, around 200 meters and on right side.

There was one 40 year man with a teen aged boy. I enquired for lady and after thinking for one minute he took me inside. Very ordinary looking room. 2 girls. One around 18 looks 4/10. Another around 24, wheatish with very sharp features. She smiled and spoke very good English. Her Colgate smile with attitude I will say 7/10. Deal was 800 for 1 hour. I told her I am new to place and she nodded. She asked me whether I can walk and after few meters she hailed a taxi and took me to one hotel which was close to metro station on opposite side to soi78. When she spoke it was very very cute. Very beautiful white teeth and soft lips. I had gone to Thailand for white Chinese looking girl but was in company with a medium tanned girl. Very good English, poise and mannerism. She looked out of place in that area. We had good time. In between I asked her whether she does blowjob. She hesitated and did not reply. May be she did. She preferred to keep mum seeing me. Of course I had bottle of Listerine. But no tooth brush. In the end I took taxi from short time hotel and dropped her at soi 78 entrance. She asked me any tip. I asked how much she expects. She suddenly said 500 baht. I gave her. She seemed shocked.

I did not check any other place in soi and went back to soi7/1 using metro pass. I had in mind young fair girl at new petchburi road.

Rest follows

[IndianVisit]

A famous website had mentioned lot of information about free lancers of Thanon Phet Utthai or Kamphaeng Phen 7. Those girls young, fair, some university student and come for some money in weekends. Those are pretty, innocent looking and not hardened. Usually after 12. 30 where girls may come from soapies also. 1500 is usual rate. Following the tips, I reached Petchburi MRT and started walking slowly on new patchburi road. Before reaching Amar attaari hotel? , One road went to my left and I also followed it. Just at corner there were around 12 girls. All young. An ugly looking lady tried to talk to me. I ignored her and when I met girls all started looking to that lady who was speaking good English. One English speaking gentleman came who later on turned out to be taxi driver. Seeing no way I talked to old lady. 1500 for girl 100 for taxi and 450 for hotel. I paid money and with a very young girl may be 18 or 20 I sat in taxi. The girl was laughing like child and gave me few nuts. On the way I asked why not to go my hotel as I will not have to pay ST hotel. He said it is nearby. I said that I will drop her at same spot on my way back. Both talked in Thai language and we reached an area which looked like Thai entertainment complex. Room was booked. I went up with girl. I removed my clothes. She immediately pushed me and put condom and despite my resistance she forced for CBJ. 15 minutes later, I was on bed and she put her clothes and said bye bye and she was out.

I came down. Looked around. Some 4 employees there and it looked that it is very common there. Another Thai couple, teen age, was getting room booked. It was obvious the girl had gone with same driver who was waiting for finding hunting. I came out and noted the place. It was on Rama 9 road and 1 km from it there is crossing leading to ekkamai station. If you see Bangkok map of thaiways, it is located in F3 block. It was hotel and massage centre. I am writing this because the thread at rough guide has given lot of details. Who are people behind such promotion?

I came back by taxi around 1 am. There was much less activity at Sukhumvit road. Soi 7/1 was dark and even I had found very few footfalls in day also. Only Bangkok beats was alive and few girls coming out of noisy hall were not looking impressive

The end of second day. Tomorrow chinatown

[Sir Lancelot]

Rest followsSounds like you had a good Nataree experience. I look forward to reading the rest of your reports.

Lance

[Linkwray666]

Maybe its time to panic guys. That lane where dr BJ is located has one of my fav. Hotels located there. Its name is world inn, I can't ever remember their rates being 1000 a night. Best I can recall it was 800 or 900 depending on season.

It could be they are just catching up as I thought their rates were a bit low for its location.I stayed across the street from World Inn last month, they were doing construction work on World building the whole time I was in town. Looks like they are passing the cost of the remodel on to the customers.

[BushWhack]

arrived jw marriott last night around 11 pm, straight to golden bar which is across from hillary 4, also across from pedestrian entrance to nana plaza. i notice some new signs, nana plaza sign has been updated, zen bar sign and hillary 4 signs all look new, did they spruce this up for the movie (hangover 2?)?

as i sipped a few beers at golden i checked out the fl's arriving in nana hotel parking lot. around midnight there were probably twenty or so, quickly doubled to about fourty girls by 12:30 am. many were just too rugged looking to even consider, but two of them looked good to me. i also noticed as i sat there (three beers, maybe 45 minutes) many "girls' clustered around the entrance to nana plaza that i think are / were ladyboys, too tall, too beautiful and too aggressive with the passing customers to be girls.

after finishing my third beer, i walked around the nana parking lot to get a closer look at the two girls i'd spotted, both looked even better up close. i approached the first, asked if she would join me for a beer (i wanted to chat for a few minutes, see if i good a good vibe from her, check for needle marks, hacking cough or other "run away" factors) , she ignored my offer and said,"boom-boom 1, 200 for one hour". i asked her to repeat it, and she said exactly the same thing a second time. i was not interested in paying 1, 200 for one hour nor did i want to race to my room for a one-hour speed session. i just patted her on her shoulder and walked over to the second girl, who was standing about half way between the street and the hotel entrance. when i got right up to her i saw she was very young and pretty, maybe 20, maybe not. but she completely ingnored me, even half-turned away from me. i'm not a small guy, caucasian and i figured either my size or ethnicity scared her. nothing doing here either.

i went to hillary 4, drank one more beer and one of the employees wearing the kilt made for nice company, kept running her hands all over me, and one of the older mama's also helped me have a few laughs as we watched the goings-on in the street, but i could tell nothing was going to happen for me here. i was in bed by 2 am. first time i've gone to bed alone on my first night in bangkok after 10 or 12 visits.

up at 6, decided to see what nana looks like in the early morning, saw one rough looking queen sitting near stumble inn, kept walking and saw a very pretty girl sitting just past hillary 4. she spoke almost no english, but we had a nice time trying to communicate. she was stroking and touching me in a very tender way, exactly the type of interaction i was expecting last night but did not get. after 15 minutes or so she offered massage and boom-boom. 1,000. no discussion about how long or short. i took her offer, off to my room. she said she was 35 yr old (if i understood her correctly) , but her body said 25. she kept saying "no baby" and slapping her nice, flat tummy. she has a very exotic face, large thai eyes and high cheekbones (chiang mai style). she was also very proud of her tiny pink thong and bra combo, asking me several times if she looked sexy. i got the sense she was new to this job and wondering if she was doing it right, looking to me for confirmation. after a shower, wee gave a great bbbj, seemed in no hurry and she seemed to enjoy it almost as much as me. i eventually got two fingers into her pussy, she was very wet and wide open, squealing with delight with my cock in her mouth. we spent over 30 minutes with her smoking me and me fingering her, great fun! then on with condom, many positions, some snuggle time in-between (although she was not a great snuggler, seemed a little tense or uncomfortable with it) , i finally blew my load. we had been going for a little over one hour, almost 2 hours total. i was tempted to press her to stay with me, sleep a little then go for round two, but i didn't push it and she eventually went back to the shower.

thb 1, 000, i got just what i needed after striking out last night, hope i see her again. she exceeded my expectations for a morning girl on nana road.

[The Pro]

Light-hearted funny and so FREAKIN true!

Again nobodys knocking strret girls and their customers but please STOP saying they are hott. LOL!

Bodily fluid exchange really scares the hell out of me. In 10 years I've never cum acrooss a girl who say they do bareback. God bless them. Still the failure rate of condoms is say 2% plus add another 2% for improper use, thats a lot of exposure to the girl of std's etc. They do have it tough. Making good money does have its risks and rewards.If you want hot girls then go to Ho Chi Minh, very pretty, super GFE and all for the same price as a Thai of much lower level looks and attitude.

But a difference there is, in HCM the girls are very much into making sure condoms are worn, but in Thailand thats not the case, Thai girls are quite vain in that if you are farang, white skin, good body, not too old they are more than happy to go bareback with you as they see you as low risk. And beleive me, I have barebacked many.

[NeverGetsOld]

I wanted to check as much area as much possible. At 5. 30 pm I took BTS pass and went to last station beyond on nut. It was soi 68 or 70 on right side. My destination was soi 78. State area. My source was internet. I think" midnight eye".Great reports brother man. You know more of Bangkok then me and I've been living here 3 months. Is this a bar under the BTS? Think I just saw this on a taxi ride home from the airport. You got off at Bang Chak BTS right? That is not actually the last stop, Bearing is, but it is 1 past On Nut. I'll throw you another small monger location, Sukhumvit 22. Have a nice visit.

[NeverGetsOld]

At ground floor, Vodoo, one girl was standing outside. She held my hand and wanted me to barfine her. I think 1500 + 700. She said she had accommodation and car. She was not bad looking 7/10.Dude Voodoo is a ladyboy bar.

http://www.bangkokredeye.com/nana-red-light-district.html

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[DaniChan007]

I'm usually in the Tokyo forum because that's where I'm currently living in. I'm excited to go to Thailand for the first time, not only for the P4P scene but also for some really cool things I can only do in Thailand. I'm planning or a late-September trip.

I want to thank many people who have contributed reports with such useful information, like user Linkwray666 a few pages back! The report not only gave me information about the experiences, but also useful, geographical and tourist information that'll help me navigate.

A lot of the well-known places that I've read about (Snow White, Tulip, Nataree, etc.) charges up to THB 2000 or so each time. That's okay, but if I was to do that 2-3 times a day, it'll really put a dent in my budget.

Any recommendations on being able to have a good time with less than THB 1500, possibly even THB 1000? I'm considering staying around BTS Nana, so the Go-Go Bars in Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are close, but I'm not sure about the bar fines.

Should I spent 2 days or so in Pattaya? Is it worth going there if I'm not aiming to go to the beach? I've always wanted to pet & feed tigers, and there's a tiger zoo near Pattaya.

[Mr Enternational]

If you want hot girls then go to Ho Chi Minh, very pretty, super GFE and all for the same price as a Thai of much lower level looks and attitude.

But a difference there is, in HCM the girls are very much into making sure condoms are worn, but in Thailand thats not the case, Thai girls are quite vain in that if you are farang, white skin, good body, not too old they are more than happy to go bareback with you as they see you as low risk. And beleive me, I have barebacked many.HCMC? No thanks. Those chicks have no shape and most importantly no ass. I'll let you keep them while I stick to bootyful Thais.

[Sir Lancelot]

Re: Pattaya-its not that there arent pretty girls, theres just not a whole lot of them-even the girls I see in BKK say that. To top it off I'm not a chocolate kind of guy-I like them fair skinned. NO offense but to sum up Pattaya- dark skin and cheap-is all one needs to know! ALLWAYS exceptions!So your assumption that Pattaya doesn't have many pretty girls comes second-hand from bar girls you meet in Bangkok? Really? They're hardly going to tell a customer that the grass is greener somewhere else!

Pattaya has LOTS of pretty girls in the gogo bars. I'm a big fan of Bangkok and I especially love Nana Plaza. In fact I have bar-fined six times from the Rainbow bars in recent trips which should tell you that we have fairly similar taste in girls. And I'm telling you that there are more pretty girls in the gogo bars of Pattaya than Bangkok (and plenty of fair-skinned girls too). Baccara, What's Up, Heaven's Above and Happy all have great girls and even if you venture away from Walking Street to the bars of Soi LK Metro, there are some stunners. I saw a pale-skinned 10/10 at Champagne and several beauties at The Office. I also bar-fined a cute Japanese-looking girl from Paradise (I included a photo on a recent post in the Pattaya thread). Unless you open your mind more and actually go to Pattaya to see for yourself, you are depriving yourself.


If you can't tell the difference between 1000 baht street girls and other s that your problem.Have you ever taken the phone number of a girl you have bar-fined from a gogo bar and arranged a day-time meet? If so you'll notice that her prices will come down drastically, almost half in lots of cases. Doesn't that tell you something? The girls you will pay 3000 baht for from a gogo bar for short-time (including bar-fine) will happily accept 1500 if you meet her during the afternoon or late at night. I've done it many times, including girls from Nataree massage parlour, Rainbow 4 etc. It kinda proves my argument that girls you will happily pay high prices for from the gogo bars can be found freelancing for much cheaper if you are prepared to look.


I would never post a girls photo on a sex forum!Instead you'll have comments deleted on the Photo Gallery thread for calling girls 'hounds'.

[Bunky]

Any recommendations on being able to have a good time with less than 1500, possibly even 1000?

Should I spent two days or so in Pattaya? Is it worth going there if I'm not aiming to go to the beach? I've always wanted to pet & feed tigers, and there's a tiger zoo near Pattaya.Spending some time in Pattaya would kill three birds with one stone.

First, you'll get value for money. For example, on Soi 6 the going rate for an onsite romp with virtually all of the bar girls in the second-floor rooms is 700 for the girl and 300 to the bar. There are *many* more beer bars in Pattaya than there are in Bangkok, and a session with your favorite will usually come in under 1500.

Second, in my view any punter who comes to Thailand owes it to himself to see both Bangkok and Pattaya. Granted, the beach in Pattaya leaves much to be desired. But it's still a beach and I find it a nice change of pace from the hardcore city vibe in Bangkok. Watching the sun set over the water with my toes in the sand always lowers my blood pressure. To me, that's the virtue of Pattya. It's a vacation spot that offers lots of ways to relax when you're not on the prowl.

Third, you can hang with the big cats.

Bunky

[Sir Lancelot]

Any recommendations on being able to have a good time with less than THB 1500, possibly even THB 1000?Since it's your first trip to Thailand, you must treat yourself to a night each at Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. At Nana Plaza I highly recommend Rainbow 4 and Mandarin, at Soi Cowboy Baccara, Tilac and Shark are my favourite bars. Check out this page for other recommendations, for example Suzie Wongs and Angelwitch offer shows if they are your thing.

As for massage parlours, it seems you've done your research and you've got a good list there. I'm a big fan of Nataree and went twice recently. I posted directions to get there in my diary.

If you wish to spend less, there are lots of beer-bars near Nana Plaza and numerous freelancers in Nana parking lot. Most aren't pretty but there is the occasional gem if you're prepared to look. It's also worth noting that some of the gogo girls spend time in the nightclubs at night (in fact I bar-fined a gorgeous girl from Shark who told me she sometimes went to Nana Liquid when she finished work). Another way you might like to keep costs down in Bangkok is to collect phone numbers of the gogo or massage girls you go with. Almost all will be willing to share their digits and meet one afternoon for a vastly reduced rate.

Pattaya is cheaper and there are lots of massage parlours, gogo bars and beer bars. I've just finished posting my diary of a week I spent there and I can recommend Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Team massage parlours, as well as Devil's Den if you want a threesome. Directions for all are in my diary. Walking Street is a 'must-visit' but it's very busy and expensive. Soi LK Metro is cheaper and has some great looking girls. If you want to keep your budget in control I recommend the beer-bars. There are some really, really pretty girls in these places for cheap prices. Just wander around places like 'Drinking Street' or Simon's Bar complex or Soi 7/8 and if you see a pretty girl, buy her a drink. The soi 6 short-time bars are worth a visit too (you pay 300 for the room upstairs and 700 to the girl) and if you are daring you should check out all of the freelancers on Beach Road. Most are older but there are some young cute ones, although I suspect their prices would be higher. I didn't ask.

In short, it's your 'cherry trip' so make sure you go to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy and maybe a couple of those massage parlours. Then you can rescue your budget in Pattaya which is much cheaper. Have a great time and remember to post a report.

[IndianVisit]

I slept well in night and got up at 9 am. 18th may. Took bath, shaved and came out of hotel. In last 2 days I must have crossed 10 times subway but never saw Elena as mentioned so much in this forum. As usual men were on streets showing photographs of girls. After breakfast I took taxi with my luggage to go to Chinatown. Being Indian we have lot of weakness for fair color. I had very friendly relations with 3 Chinese girls in Dubai.

I had read a lot about Chinatown in a thread. TheplazaNaNa had uploaded few videos in you tube also. For me accommodation meant keeping passport and luggage, few hours sleep and bath. So I had booked one place which was at unbelievable low price. Taxi dropped me around 100 meters from Inn. It was not in alley but sub alley. I met the person running show. A young man from south India. I wondered what he was doing here; He must be roaming around the world as backpacker and now started a small venture here. He was quite helpful and courteous. There were only 2 more people in that inn at that time. Both European. I tried to understand his business and he said that overall not that bad. The place has plus point of it being cheap, single room and free wifi. The negative points which I realized on reaching there were that it had no air conditioner and dogs at entrance to alley. Though it was 200 meters from yarawat road but after 7 pm it looked deserted.

Whole day I walked from yarawat road to Maitri road to metro station Hua Lamphong. After 2 pm started appearing streetwalkers and brothels getting opened up. It was lowest of low quality. Broadway hotel was centre of Chinese working girls. Everybody waved. All looked hardened working girls. One or two girls, with whom I could have spent time, were not keen to entertain me. One asked 700 and I offered 800 but my terms. They thought I have gone crack. In one soapy, I think Harlem, I saw good looking lady for 1200 and I showed interest. There was another lady who was getting restless to be chosen. I booked the girl and I found some baht were less. I went outside to jeweler shop for dollar change. By that time the girl got busy. Suddenly the lady in charge became rude. Even the cashier got puzzled why she was misbehaving. I took back my money. As it is said that bad day is bad and whatsoever you do, nothing goes right.

There was famous street food after 7 pm. Being vegetarian I walked down to little India, around 500 metres down the yarawat road and took my food. Back close to Texas hotel I found one legit massage parlor with cute girl. I resigned myself for traditional massage. The person sitting outside directed me down to alley behind Broadway Hotel. There one very young girl called me. I was desperate by this time and went upstairs with her. She took bath. Small girl. Ordinary looking but caring and friendly. Lot of kissing and after hjob, I left. She had asked for 500 baht. I gave 100 tip.

At inn I opened up before inn owner. Probably I should have not. He himself had not much knowledge about Chinatown. When his Polish girl friend was in town, he visited frequently discos. He said that he can talk to some girls, east European, and they will be nice for you. From Boss and CM2. He was not tout and was trying genuinely to help. I was not in mood now and said may be next visit to Thailand, I will approach him

To sum up in 4 words – don't go to Chinatown.

Next in Pattaya forum

[Goatscrot]

Ordinary looking but caring and friendly. Lot of kissing and after hjob, I left. She had asked for 500 baht. I gave 100 tip.Dude, tip for HJ is 500 baht. That is standard in BKK. Most folks tip 100 baht for traditional massage without extras. You really shortchanged that girl. Not nice.

[NeverGetsOld]

For newcummers a little history. I've barfined a Rainbow girl 16 times recently, couldn't get enough of her.If you are truly done with this girl you love, would you be as kind to post a picture of her? I would like to barfine this girl, cum on her face and post pictures if you do not mind.

[DaniChan007]

Spending some time in Pattaya would kill three birds with one stone...Thanks for the little info and excitement boost. I didn't consider staying much in Pattaya before, but now I've spent almost 1. 5 hours browsing through the Pattaya Reports & the Pattaya Hotels thread.

Hanging with the big boys eh? That's exciting & gives me butterflies at the same time. I'd love to meet with some of the people here who've posted such good reports.

And Sir Lancelot, thanks for the advice. Yes, it's my CHERRY TRIP (!) , so I must definitely spend at least 2 days in Bangkok and try some of the most mentioned places in Nana & Soi Cowboy. I've read your diaries and they were really helpful. I plan to outline my adventures similar to how you did yours when I'm all said, done, and fucked out of my mind.

The P4P scene here in Tokyo isn't anything remotely close to how it sounds like in Bangkok & Pattaya. There are rarely any FL here, and the only ones are from China & other SE Asian countries. Approaching & chatting with a FL in Bangkok or Pattaya will be fun.

[Gorgon]

Dude, tip for HJ is 500 baht. That is standard in BKK. Most folks tip 100 baht for traditional massage without extras. You really shortchanged that girl. Not nice.I think we can assume it is an all inclusive price. 500b for a massage is quite steep. It would have had to have been some massage for 500 + 500 tip for a handy.

[AirlineCrew]

I think we can assume it is an all inclusive price. 500b for a massage is quite steep. It would have had to have been some massage for 500 + 500 tip for a handy.I think he gave her the 500 baht AND added a tip of 100 baht, so 600 in total. That seems generous to me.

[Don Chorizo]

I think we can assume it is an all inclusive price. 500b for a massage is quite steep. It would have had to have been some massage for 500 + 500 tip for a handy.Chinatown massage places are never all inclusive. 500 baht tip would have been appropriate.

[Goatscrot]

I think we can assume it is an all inclusive price. 500b for a massage is quite steep. It would have had to have been some massage for 500 + 500 tip for a handy.Ah, no. Tip at a MP for a HJ is 500 baht. He was at a traditional massage place. The cost of the massage is a separate issue. He did not mention the price of the massage. He only mentioned that the lady asked for 500 baht for the HJ, which as I said is standard. You really think some gal should j*ack your see*ock for 100 baht? Give me a break.

[Mr Enternational]

Ah, no. Tip at a MP for a HJ is 500 baht. He was at a traditional massage place. The cost of the massage is a separate issue. He did not mention the price of the massage. He only mentioned that the lady asked for 500 baht for the HJ, which as I said is standard. You really think some gal should j*ack your see*ock for 100 baht? Give me a break.I don't know what some girl SHOULD do, but I usually talk them down to 500 for FS. My very first experience in BKK was a HJ at a massage parlor and I am damn sure I didn't give 500 baht for it and neither did my wingman who was in the curtain next to me. More like 200 or 300 max. There is no set price list. You pay what you can get away with or what she can get away with getting you to pay. Just because she initially told him 500 doesn't mean he should automatically agree to it and not get a lower price.

[BionicMan]

Ah, no. Tip at a MP for a HJ is 500 baht. He was at a traditional massage place. The cost of the massage is a separate issue. He did not mention the price of the massage. He only mentioned that the lady asked for 500 baht for the HJ, which as I said is standard. You really think some gal should j*ack your see*ock for 100 baht? Give me a break.I am totally with you. All starts with the big misunderstanding on the word "tip", said here many times.

Girls like to call it tip as sounds nicer and less "hooker" than the more appropriate "fee".

A fee is the payment of goods or service.
A tip is a thank you for some attention, care. We need to remember that those girls do not get money (but expenses) when working at oilies or MP where you pay the cashier for the massage alone.
At places like Annie's where you pay an all in fee, one can decide to tip or not to tip the girl, tip 100 or 500 whatever he likes, his choice. The girl has earned her money through the establishment.
The 400 one pays for the massage is merely the fixed costs and margin for the place, just as like renting a DT room (and if you notice the cost per hour is pretty much that.
We can play with figures as much as we want but bottom line a FS is between 1500 and 3000, on ST... Of one accounts BF, ST rooms or oily massage. The real cheap one is a FL at 1000 taken to your hotel room. Non side costs...
Other than that the final costs are pretty much the same, regardless if in one go, or split in different ways.

[IndianVisit]

There are some confusions and issues.

Nevergetsold wrote Dude Voodoo is a ladyboy bar.

I did not remember at that times. My laptop was in luggage and I had not checked it. I remembered that about obssession and temptation. Thanks. Anyhow I did not not go with that person.

Nevergetold furthur wrote actually the last stop, Bearing is, but it is 1 past On Nut.

Yes the location is 500 metres beyond last stop. Bearing or so. I walked. I had got down penultimate station as I was new to area.

Goat scrot wrote Dude, tip for HJ is 500 baht. That is standard in BKK. Most folks tip 100 baht for traditional massage without extras. You really shortchanged that girl. Not nice.

Well. I think if you read carefully, I was directed by man at massage parlor down the alley behind the Broadway hotel. There one girl sitting outside a non descrpit place. Asked me 500. It was not for massage and only for FS which is the rate there. 500 to 800. I was tired and wanted get released. Hence handjob. Rest of time it was my touching her body at different places and kissing. She had taken good bath and used listerine which I carried always in Thailand.

Marky1 wrote Come on. This is surely someone trolling.

Well I have nothing to say.

Tony Hoeprano OTOH, if you ting tong farang with low standards then you'll be like a pig in slop haha

Well. No response from my side. My culture and upbringing does not allow me to respond in such language.

[Franciscass]

I don't know what some girl SHOULD do, but I usually talk them down to 500 for FS. My very first experience in BKK was a HJ at a massage parlor and I am damn sure I didn't give 500 baht for it and neither did my wingman who was in the curtain next to me. More like 200 or 300 max. There is no set price list. You pay what you can get away with or what she can get away with getting you to pay. Just because she initially told him 500 doesn't mean he should automatically agree to it and not get a lower price.The standard price of a HJ at a massage shop is 500 baht. She gets 150 for the oil massage (100 if it's Thai or foot) and will be lucky to get three or four custoners during her 12 hour shift so why are you trying to get the girl to agree to jerk you off for 200 or 300 baht just because you can get away with it knowing she needs the money. In the name of simple decency please treat the girls with some respect.

[BionicMan]

There are some confusions and issues.

Nevergetsold wrote Dude Voodoo is a ladyboy bar.

I did not remember at that times. My laptop was in luggage and I had not checked it. I remembered that about obssession and temptation. Thanks. Anyhow I did not not go with that person.Voodoo is a bar with mainly post-op LB's, so technically, if asked, they have a pussy. Whatever judgement one has on this fact, his choice, decision, freedoms and preference, of course.

[Gorgon]

I apologize of course for my sloppy reading. I missed the "legit" part. I assumed it was some chinatown grot place. For a handy in any form I keep the set price at 500 above the fee like everyone else. The ladies at HJ places are barely paid (if at all) for the massage so not paying up gets you whats coming to you.

However, if it's a freelancer with "a place" in some alley they usually are upfront with the expected total fee. A grot massage with a handy I could see costing 500 as you can find FS there for that price.

For some actual content. Our indian friend reminded me to take a stroll in chinatown today. I did a route that walks you by the usual places written about on the web. Broadway was blocked of by what looked like a few school classes of Chinese students that all had to get noodles at the same small table. The hookers skulked about upstairs staying low key I think. I wasn't going to wait for 50 plates to cook so I backpedaled one block and walked to the roundabout. Mostly downtrodden guys riding the samsong or other substances. The sois around here are not for the faint of heart. Many broken lives are being spent drunk on the corners here. Many people peddling small 10bath items. Some are obvious yaba users trying to make some cash. There are loads of middle aged or older providers hanging around in various corners. Here and there you can find younger faces and even some SYT-quality but they are scarce. I would assume there is some hidden issues with the SYTs around, why peddle their wares here for cheap when NEP could earn them double the fee? My guess is lack of age or infection. Surely you can't be that young and naive that you start the trade in chinatown of all places out of ignorance.

I was looking for a PRC style face so I passed most chances by. Hoofing it back to the MRT I passed the soapy I think is called Cleopatra, there is no English signs but they do have a huge lighted sign that should either tell you brothel or karaoke place. Can't miss it. Some older posts claim they have issues with farangs but I saw none. A youngish papasan spoke english and did not try any price hikes or tip demands. There is two set prices. 1200 and 1000 be. Not much difference to be honest, most are older providers. I was about to leave but a 1200b lady caught my eye, she had a "reasonably" young face and what the heck, only 1200b so I went for it. The number tag was worn as hell but I think it was a higer number closer to 100 than 50.

The lady claimed 37yo but I think she in truth is over 40. She has the old bag screechy voice women get when they pass 40 and start growing mustaches. She on the other hand looked surprisingly fresh for her age. Bantered around in surprisingly good english while waiting for the tub. She interviewed me causally at first but when she liked what she heard she got more and more detailed. I got amused at thispoint and started to pry in to her past but she deflected. She for example learnt english "from the internet", I think we all know what she does on the internet. I'm willing to bet something substantial the lady has a whole stable of sponsors and was looking to recruit me. After the bath filled she gave a GFE style bath with some sort of mini-spa treatment thing. Of course to run up the minutes but I didn't care, I was assuming pump and dump starfish sex going in to this. The excellent ministrations in the bath had me optimistic though. A nice BBBJ got the show started and then on with the rubber. Not a whole lot of GFE in bed but she did what was expected, all the usual positions and a reasonably good moaning job. I had a 24 hour ball sack rest period before this session so I was getting close in about 20-30minutes and thus asked for the CIM finish. Was no problems at all and I she did a most talented finishing blowjob with me standing and she on her knees like it should be.

Subtly tried to get me to take her out but I had no interest in even checking if the place has a bar fine or not. I don't need to spend an evening deflecting her recruitment tactics. Tipped and left. All in all I had a good time and I think the price was fair. A lot depending on this particular provider though. I find my self drawn more and more to the older crowd, they usually have mellowed out a bit and learnt the tricks of the trade. The SYTs are starting to bore me, to many star fishes, even if they are good looking enough to make a salary man cry in to his drink.

[Mr Enternational]

The standard price of a HJ at a massage shop is 500 baht. She gets 150 for the oil massage (100 if it's Thai or foot) and will be lucky to get three or four custoners during her 12 hour shift so why are you trying to get the girl to agree to jerk you off for 200 or 300 baht just because you can get away with it knowing she needs the money. In the name of simple decency please treat the girls with some respect.You know I told my boss he same thing. The only reason you get me to agree to doing this shit is because you know I need the money. But don't worry. The girls will be fine. I tell them to just charge the next sucker extra to make up for the difference and they seem to be okay with that. If you have been on this board any length of time then you know there is nothing "standard" about me. I'm not in it to put food on anyone's table. I am in it to get my rocks off. If the girl has no problem with it I can't understand why the next trick would.

[Sir Lancelot]

Whats wrong with using BKK girls as sources.You choose to completely ignore all of the advice and comments given in good faith on this forum by experienced mongers but ...
Sorry I just don't believe the stars are available away from their venue for drastically reduced price.You side-stepped my question so I'll ask it again. Have you ever bar-fined a girl from a gogo bar or massage parlour and then asked for her phone number so you can arrange a meeting away from the bar / mp? I'm guessing an experienced monger like yourself must have had the initiative to do that. Because if you have, you must surely have noticed that you can arrange for much cheaper. Short-time can be arranged for on average 60% of the price. I've done it many times, including with girls from Nataree and Rainbow 4 as I'm sure lots of others on this forum have too.

Unless. You are being quoted gogo prices for daytime meets by your girls? That would explain a LOT!


Pricing in Pattaya is all one needs to know about girl quality.Well actually if you'd ever been to Pattaya you'd find out that lots of the Walking Street gogo bars charge as much as the Bangkok bars, so that's another epic fail on your behalf. You are racking them up. But aside from that, can you even comprehend how stupid this comment is? It displays a complete and utter lack of understanding of the pay-for-play scene you like to think you know so much about.

[Syzygies]

Great reports brother man. You know more of Bangkok then me and I've been living here 3 months. Is this a bar under the BTS? Think I just saw this on a taxi ride home from the airport. You got off at Bang Chak BTS right? That is not actually the last stop, Bearing is, but it is 1 past On Nut. I'll throw you another small monger location, Sukhumvit 22. Have a nice visit.Bang Chak is one after On Nut but a long way short of his location. There are several more stops: Punnawithi, Udom Suk, Bang Na, Bearing. I live in this region part time but do not monger too close to home

[PinkPearl]

If you can't tell the difference between 1000 baht street girls and other s that your problem.There is no difference. Except the others cost far more. Like the difference between a brand name item & another of the same quality without the name at one third the price. If you want to pay extra for the name, a show, a chair to sit in, building rental expenses, go to an indoor venue. I prefer, like the ad says, to "save your money".

With BKK street girls there is no bar fine or LDs. With bar girls & gogo girls there is a BF. You are also pressured or required to buy drinks for yourself & or others. Additionally you may find it difficult if not impossible to get a hot girl gogo girl for 1000 baht ST. I hear that 2000 is common these days, whereas for attractive street girls around NEP 1000 has been the norm since at least 2007.


ICould it be guys are going to The Rainbows instead of Baccara. Rainbows are cheaper and girls are better quality than big B. Rainbows just put out a better product.I've been to R4 a few times...
No need for photos. Anyway I would never post a girls photo on a sex forum!Photos fulfill the need for man's visual requirements & provide credibility. No photos reinforces a certain unnamed posters anti-reputation that precedes him. OTOH I and others have provided video evidence of the looks of NEP area street girls & lookalike pics of the same for "unbelievers" such as yourself. Admitedly the unbelieving crowd has been a majority here since 07, but in recent years they've been more or less silenced, with Harold being their leading spokesperson. LOL.

[Sir Lancelot]

(continued from the Pattaya thread)

I woke with a sore throat and a dry cough, not surprising given the thick smoke from the shisha pipes in Queen last night. After I checked out I took a motorbike taxi to Pattaya's bus station. There are three regular buses to Bangkok and I opted for the one bound for Ekamai as it is on the Skytrain route. The ticket cost 124 baht and after a 20 minute wait I was on my way back to Bangkok. If you prefer the convenience of taxis (or travel with more luggage than me) you can book a taxi directly to the airport from any hotel in Pattaya for between 1000 to 1200 baht.

Sitting behind me were two British guys, one middle-aged and the other early twenties. The older of the two told an amusing story of how he went for a massage and after ten minutes the woman asked 'boom boom sir? '. He told the story like it was the most shocking thing in the world. The younger guy asked 'was she pretty? ' with a laugh that made me suspect that he'd dabbled with a few of these kind of massages himself. Naturally it bought them on to the thorny subject of prostitution. 'I couldn't pay a girl for sex' said the older guy, 'it's wrong'.

My phone vibrated in my pocket. It was a message from Nok, the girl I met in Honey 2. 'Remember me? ' she asked and I texted her back, saying 'how could I forget! ' I told her I was going back to England today and she replied 'come back soon'. I then texted Lin, the 10/10 girl from Lisa Bar. We'd talked about the possibility of meeting for dinner but sadly I didn't have time to see her again. I told her that I hoped to see her next time I'm in Pattaya. 'See you soon' she replied. I like to sleep with lots of girls on my trips but it's easy to see how you could fall for a girl like Lin.

It was a comfortable journey. The bus had lots of leg-room and a toilet at the back. After a few hours we pulled in to the concrete jungle of Bangkok. We crawled through heavy traffic down Sukhumvit Road, the Skytrain towering overhead, until we pulled in to Ekamai station.

It was 4pm and I had three hours before I needed to be at the airport. That meant time for one last girl. Massage parlours like Tulip, EZ Massage, Mango and Snow White are all raved about online but I had my luggage with me so wanted to go somewhere I knew. I decided to go back to NATAREE for one last soapy massage.

I took the Skytrain to Asok and then walked downstairs to the underground station where I got a 10 minute train to Huay Kwang. A cute little Thai girl stared at me for the entire duration of the underground journey. I suspect she'd never seen a white man before. I left the train station through exit 3 and walked the short distance to Nataree.

The time was 4. 25pm when I stepped inside. My flight was at 8. 30pm. That meant I had time to pick a girl, fuck her and then be on my way to the airport at 6pm. I estimated it would take about an hour which meant I'd arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport at 7pm. It was tighter than I hoped. If I could save time by picking a girl quickly it would save a lot of stress.

Once again it was busy with girls and there were lots of Asian customers. I ordered a drink and surveyed the room. There were probably 50 girls sat around. The older girls in the fishbowl were available for 2000 baht while those around the lounge cost 2600. Some sat on couches around the perimeter of the room, others on stools near the entrance. The youngest seemed to gather on the seats in front of the fishbowl.

The papasan walked me around and introduced me to the girls. As always there was lots of eye-candy. I took a seat and spotted the sophisticated girl I had been tempted by on my visit to Nataree at the start of my trip. When she saw me looking she quickly looked away. In stark contrast a cute girl near the entrance smiled and waved whenever I looked over. I was pleased I couldn't see Amy because although she was a sweetheart, I wanted to fuck a different girl this time.

Time was marching on. 20 minutes had raced by and I needed to make my choice. I opted for the girl who kept smiling to me. She would provide a far more enjoyable experience than the sophisticated girl, who was very pretty but had the makings of a 'starfish'. I walked over to her and she giggled when I took her by the hand and led her to the counter. I handed over 2600 baht and she held my hand tightly as we took the lift up to the 3rd floor.

I don't think I've met such a giggly girl. She couldn't stop smiling and in the room she told me 'I love you' before collapsing across my lap and laughing hysterically. 'You ting tong! ' I told her. Her name was Noy, she was from Chiang Mai and she spoke good English. As we waited for our drinks, she unzipped my trousers and began stroking me until I was hard. 'Big banana' she said and held her arm against my dick, implying that they were the same width. Suddenly there was a knock at the door and the waiter walked in. Noy quickly threw a towel over me and giggled like a naughty schoolgirl as I paid for the drinks.

She ran the bath and we stripped our clothes off. She had a slim body with small but firm tits. We got in to the bath and she sat cross-legged, inviting me to sit on her lap facing her and then lie back and relax while she washed me. As a result my dick was thrust up at her. Usually the bath follows the same routine in massage parlours but Noy threw the rule-book out of the window and leaned forward and ran her tongue over my dick before taking it in to her mouth and sucking slow and deep. I closed my eyes and sighed. Soon I'd be leaving this all behind.

We dried ourselves and lay on the bed kissing. She then kissed my neck and slowly inched downwards, kissing my chest and drawing circles with her tongue. She teased me like this for five intensely pleasurable minutes, getting lower and lower before she slipped my dick in her mouth and began sucking. It was a great blowjob.

The sex was every bit as enjoyable with lots of different positions. At one point I lay back and she lowered herself on to me. But instead of facing me like most girls, she rode me in 'reverse cowgirl', facing away. She leant back and I held her firm tits as she really went for it, bouncing up and down as quickly as she could, her arse-cheeks slapping in to me as she groaned 'oh yeah, oh yeah'. At the foot of the bed there was a mirror, so I got a great view.

Afterwards we lay on the bed chatting. I have never met a girl who seemed so in awe of me. She kept stroking me and saying 'you so handsome' before blushing. She was like a giggly young girl meeting her favourite popstar! She told me that it was her dream to live in England. When I told her that I was flying back to England later that night, she grabbed my dick and said 'I miss your banana! ' before laughing hysterically again.

I picked Noy because although there were prettier girls, chemistry always wins over looks. It proved the right decision because, as expected, she delivered great sex. As we got changed I asked her how much of the 2600 baht she gets and she told me half. The girls don't make money if they don't get customers, so it's no wonder Noy made such an effort to attract my attention downstairs. I gave her a good tip as she'd been a fitting way to end my trip.

Just one lift serves the building so it is always crammed. Noy and I shared it with two other couples. Both girls were young and pretty but both guys (a serious-faced European and a middle-aged Asian) stood facing away from their girl. It was as if they weren't interested in treating the girl nicely after they'd fucked. I find that attitude amazing. Every girl I fucked in a massage parlour on this trip I exchanged numbers with and held hands with afterwards in the lift. Treating girls nicely isn't just about giving them tips if they deserve it, it's about treating them like human beings.

It was 6. 15pm when I stepped out of Nataree. I hauled my luggage to the nearby station and took the underground back to Sukhumvit. Directly above Sukhumvit MTS station is Asok Skytrain, from where I took the monorail to Phaya Thai. I had to wait 15 minutes for the next train and stared anxiously at my watch every two minutes. The trip to the airport took 20 minutes and I checked in at 7. 25pm, just over an hour before take-off.

Three hours later I was sat in the plane, staring out of the window and getting ready to say goodbye to Asia. Then there was an announcement telling passengers that there was a 'small technical problem' with the plane so could we all please get off. Then followed a frustrating six hour delay. I sent a text message to Owen to tell him and he replied that he was in a beer bar surrounded by pretty girls. I don't think I've ever been so jealous of anyone in my life!

The delay gave me opportunity to reflect on the trip. If it was a book, it was split in to three chapters. 'Chapter 1' was Bangkok. I only had three days to sample its delights but enjoyed visiting the gogo bars of Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza, especially Rainbow 4, Shark and Tilac. I also enjoyed soapies at Nataree and Annie's. I went with five girls in Bangkok.

Cambodia was 'Chapter 2'. In Siem Reap the temples of Angkor what are the main event with the small-but-pricy girlie scene just an added bonus for leg-weary tourists with temple fatigue. I fucked two Vietnamese girls there. Sihanoukville had a small scene but if you like beaches and girls, Philippines is the place to go. Phnom Penh on the other hand had been the real deal with lots of pretty girls available for cheap prices. I fucked five girls in Phnom Penh, including two young cuties at Le Crycee. On my next visit I will certainly explore the hostess bars more on Streets 104, 108 and 136.

Finally 'Chapter 3' was Pattaya. On my previous visit I didn't like the place (largely due to illness) but with the help of Owen and Macca I got a real flavour of what it has to offer. I was impressed by the massage parlours, the gogo bars and even the beer-bars too. It's an exciting place with lots of pretty girls. I slept with 10 great girls there.

I fucked 22 girls in total, including four I'd rate as 10/10. Joy, Alena, New and Lin. On top of that there were lots of 9/10's so in terms of quality, this trip delivered. As for service, I couldn't complain either. I'd had two threesomes and enough great sex to keep me happy until my next trip.

On the down-side, I didn't have a girl stay with me for long-time on the whole trip. That was partly due to the higher prices in Bangkok and Pattaya and also because I planned to go with two girls a day in Phnom Penh and Pattaya so needed to give Lancelot Junior a well deserved rest. Also Thailand's gogo girls seem more geared to short-time these days. Compare that to Angeles where girls of a similar quality can be bar-fined for half the price and would stay all night. You can't beat the feeling of drowsily waking up in the morning and seeing a young hottie sleeping next to you.

But while Thailand can no longer be considered a cheap pay-for-play destination (at least for someone like me who enjoys soapy massages and targets young gogo girls) , it undoutedly remains the most exciting and varied sex scene in Asia. On the plane back to England, I was already planning my return trip to the Land of Smiles.

THE END.

Ps I would like to thank everyone who contributes reports and (accurate) info to this forum, who helped me plan such an enjoyable trip. I hope you enjoyed reading. Lancelot

[NeverGetsOld]

Bang Chak is one after On Nut but a long way short of his location. There are several more stops: Punnawithi, Udom Suk, Bang Na, Bearing. I live in this region part time but do not monger too close to homeThanks for the clarification. Confused the sois. I saw a bar under Bang Chak BTS with 2 girls standing outside at night. During daytime a girl once told me it was a normal bar for only Thai's but did not look normal to me. Bearing is really getting out there. Would love to know all the Thai P4P places but not easily obtained info. And I really don't limit my mongering. A war zone with bullets flying by would be suffice if I was horny enough.

[NeverGetsOld]

meet what i thought was a normal girl. get rapey and fuck her bareback right away. cum too quick.

get 8 beers at 7-11, drink in my room and give her a more dignified boning.

bored and go shoot a dozen games of pool. drink our asses off. she is really good and tells me she makes money pool hustling but i'm playing best in my life and pulling shots out my ass, drunk out my ass, better feeling then sex. spend 900 baht. not cool.

come home and hit it before passing out. wake up, wiggle my dick in it and smash again.

but now hear this girl's hustle. throughout the night the girl made several comments that her uncle is big police chief in bangkok. blindsides me and asks for money in the morning with hands open up. brings up uncle again. i joke, ok i run to cambodia now. 1000 on pool and drinks was all my budget allotted for. she asks for money again and i say if you want to be a bad girl i can be a really bad boy and am going to fuck her up the ass and stick my dick in her mouth for bringing up her uncle. she giggles. i have all my change on the counter. 200 on there, tell her to take it for ride home and to get the fuck out in a sweet way. she takes 20 baht.

one and done.

bizarro land.

[Franciscass]

You know I told my boss he same thing. The only reason you get me to agree to doing this shit is because you know I need the money. But don't worry. The girls will be fine. I tell them to just charge the next sucker extra to make up for the difference and they seem to be okay with that. If you have been on this board any length of time then you know there is nothing "standard" about me. I'm not in it to put food on anyone's table. I am in it to get my rocks off. If the girl has no problem with it I can't understand why the next trick would.Sorry Mr International I wasn't aware you had to jerk off your boss for a stingy 200 baht but really you should be grateful and appreciate he is just getting his rocks off. Don't feel humiliated just because you are a poor uneducated youngster from the countryside, you have to understand it's a dog eat dog world out there so be grateful when somebody offers you 200 baht in fact accept a 100 or even 50 if that's all you can get.

[BiziBoy2012]

A very big thanks to sir lancelot for an amazing detailed trip of fr's. It was amazing to read your enriched list of info and I am looking forward to exploring these destinations in July 2013.

[Hbengkok]

(continued from the Pattaya thread)

I fucked 22 girls in total, including four I'd rate as 10/10. Joy, Alena, New and Lin. On top of that there were lots of 9/10's so in terms of quality, this trip delivered. As for service, I couldn't complain either. I'd had two threesomes and enough great sex to keep me happy until my next trip.

On the down-side, I didn't have a girl stay with me for long-time on the whole trip. That was partly due to the higher prices in Bangkok and Pattaya and also because I planned to go with two girls a day in Phnom Penh and Pattaya so needed to give Lancelot Junior a well deserved rest. Also Thailand's gogo girls seem more geared to short-time these days. Compare that to Angeles where girls of a similar quality can be bar-fined for half the price and would stay all night. You can't beat the feeling of drowsily waking up in the morning and seeing a young hottie sleeping next to you.

But while Thailand can no longer be considered a cheap pay-for-play destination (at least for someone like me who enjoys soapy massages and targets young gogo girls) , it undoutedly remains the most exciting and varied sex scene in Asia. On the plane back to England, I was already planning my return trip to the Land of Smiles.

THE END.

Ps I would like to thank everyone who contributes reports and (accurate) info to this forum, who helped me plan such an enjoyable trip. I hope you enjoyed reading. LancelotOMG, awesome to have 22 girls on your trip, something that I hardly can achieve do to some reasons. BTW, the girl on the pic is a beauty (usually farang choose different type of girls, not considered as beautifull by asian).

We hope that even not cheap anymore, Thailand prices still reasonable in the future. Many thanks for your reports.

[Mackin]

I know this has been beat to death before but I went back 18 pages and only found a place called Vasu on soi 7/1 and Suk. Can some one tell me the name of the better money changer around soi 11. I know of the place at Phom Phong and believe it is called Super something. So looking for decent money changer around soi 11 and soi 23. Just name and location. Thanks.

[Mackin]

Just found on google the money changer called Super rich. Location is too far from soi 11 or 23. Anything close to them. Sorry for question before as should have used google first

[Marky1]

Just found on google the money changer called Super rich. Location is too far from soi 11 or 23. Anything close to them. Sorry for question before as should have used google firstThere's one at the Asoke BTS station towards where you exit to Terminal 21.

[BionicMan]

THE END. Ps I would like to thank everyone who contributes reports and (accurate) info to this forum, who helped me plan such an enjoyable trip. I hope you enjoyed reading. LancelotThanks to you for posting those descriptive and informative reports.

[Joe Karnavic]

(continued from the Pattaya thread)

THE END.

Ps I would like to thank everyone who contributes reports and (accurate) info to this forum, who helped me plan such an enjoyable trip. I hope you enjoyed reading. LancelotSir Lancelot,

Thank you for such great reports. I thoroughly enjoyed and read all your reports with interest. They are descriptive and gives lot of useful information about LOS. You write them well with very good flow.

Looking forward more such reports when you come back to LOS.

Joe

[Gorgon]

I have been browsing NEP, the parkinglot and the buss stop during my other errands and I'm agreeing to other posters claims of the lack of good looking talent. Daytime or after midnight the entire nana area is ladyboy central. Everyone I considered showing any kind of compensation to was an obvious or turned out to be a very convincing LB. Sure there was some SYTs behind the parking lot sign but they "had standards" and I don't deal with that shit from 1000bath starfish hookers. I have done them a few times but a rolled up newspaper could be a stand in for most of them sex wise.

Crossed the street and cruised on towards soi 11, the street bars have old or OLD talents hanging around, the good looking and inviting crew was mostly LBs. Had a few drinks with some LBs during the walk and they were chatty. Soi 11 had more potential but by this time I just wanted a few drinks before turning in. I sat down in the two beatlebars that are close to villa market and got the evil eye from some african men. The seats towards the pavement are empty with one african male covering each bar. Either I interfered with their boyfriend pulling or I was disrupting their sales of nigerian specialties. Ended up being "persuaded" by the predatory villa market massage ladies because one of them was young, slim and with a somewhat decent face. The phrase "I have a room" was used with more than a little bit bending of the truth. I knew it was going to be nasty but I did not expect to be pulled in to a place with a small front room and three booths "in the back". The front room had an idling euro lady and a family of indians getting feet, shoulders and other stuff massaged. I was led in to a booth with walls not higher than a standing man and some flimsy cloth for a door.

The service was surprisingly good for a pump and dump. While indian gramps was having loud shoulder orgasms in the front room I was getting a killer CBJ, most times CBJ just bores me in to going soft but she had mad skill I have to give her that. Nice tits and bod but the price dictated bad service so she rasped to get on with it and shoot quickly. She implied murder if I took to long or made any lady parts burst.

When the deed was done the euro lady was ready to head out with a newly arrived specialist in the massages. Eurolady was an obvious tomboy lesbian and either the place is known in those circles or she has balls enough to just ask them who eats a meat pie in this place. I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall in their ST room.

Short blurb on beergarden, I have tried to pick up some daytime stuff from there but I can't bring my self to it. The inviting ladies are older than I am, nothing wrong with that in general but try to enforce one rule of my own. I can't be the good looking one in the coupling and I'm not a young fit man anymore. The few younger in the lineups "had standards" and preferred talking to the expats showing up in office clothes. Not going to bribe working girls there with lady drinks so they can believe they are good girls that just happen to get a very expensive taxi ride after the "date".

[TimTimGuy]

I know this has been beat to death before but I went back 18 pages and only found a place called Vasu on soi 7/1 and Suk. Can some one tell me the name of the better money changer around soi 11. I know of the place at Phom Phong and believe it is called Super something. So looking for decent money changer around soi 11 and soi 23. Just name and location. Thanks.Hi Mackin. There are at least two money changers on soi 11 that I can think of. They are on the same side of the street as Villa Mart. The differece in exchange rates between one or another is frankly not worth the cost of the BTS ride to Asoke or anywhere else, even for several hundreds of dollars. TTG

[Allover]

Vasu usually gives the best rate of any moneychanger between Nana and Soi 11. When I'm near Cowboy I go to the Citibank ATM at Sukhumvit/Soi Asoke. I have a Citibank account in the U.S.

[NeverGetsOld]

Been raining a bit. Anyone know where I can get a good deal on umbrellas. I don't want to overpay and ruin the market!The other day when picking up my eggs Benny at food land I grabbed one for 80 baht from the vendors between S3 and S5. Two sell them, the old guy's umbrella is a little better and 100 baht. Imagine they are much cheaper in other markets around BKK but what are you going to do.

To change the subject; sounds like you are rainbow 4's number one customer. Could you tell me if you have ever seen a girl who works under the name Ice there? Small frame, older bad girl face, whole back tatted up, neck tat, blonde hair, balloon fake tits, flat stomach, flat ass.

[Zauberfee]

I know this has been beat to death before but I went back 18 pages and only found a place called Vasu on soi 7/1 and Suk. Can some one tell me the name of the better money changer around soi 11.Maybe this app helps you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.megarichcurrencyexchange.thailand

[Keeniu]

Asian Massage shops in Sydney Australia charge $20AUD for HJ extra. 500bt is like $19AUD. In Vietnam it is closer to $10 max, and less than half, or none for the locals. In Singapore, about $30sg does the trick. The incredibility mean teen dream massage in Pattaya gets 40 yes a mere 40 bt for a 1 hour massage (client pays 400+).500 including massage is a good deal for them. However I note most give crap massages. They are simply untrained. My experience is the best ones don't ask for anything and just do it, usually are the most skilled. Only a 10/10 deserves a full 500. If they open at 1000, they just dropped to an 8. There are full service fishbowls in Chinatown BKK for 1200 all in. Also in patts's I found a thai massage place 100bt an HOUR (no hanky panky) off the beaten track- same or better than those on the bt bus routes. Pay what you see fit. But I do agree don't cheat outstanding service. Buys a lot of Issan Chilli Ant green mango meals.

[Goatscrot]

My rain 4 favorite said she will go to my Asoke hotel. Thank you lord. God bless. But she put restrictions on the times I can barfine her. LOL. She was explaining why but I couldn't really follow her line of reasoning, I try again to see what she was saying.Who is the customer here? Really man, you let a 6th grade educated Isaan working girl dictate the "rules"? Restrictions? Guys are really letting girls get away with this cr*p? No wonder the attitudes are awful.

[Linkwray666]

tell me if you have ever seen a girl who works under the name Ice there? Small frame, older bad girl face, whole back tatted up, neck tat, blonde hair, balloon fake tits, flat stomach, flat ass.I have seen her there. She was pretty aggressive, came off as desperate. Was not one of the better options at R4 IMO, she would be more at home I think in a strip club in Arkansas or Alabama.

Something about her reminds me of Dooneese (Kristen Wiig / SNL) :

[NeverGetsOld]

I have seen her there. She was pretty aggressive, came off as desperate. Was not one of the better options at R4 IMO, she would be more at home I think in a strip club in Arkansas or Alabama.

Something about her reminds me of Dooneese (Kristen Wiig / SNL) :That desperation as you call it or good sales as I call it earned her a really nice apartment. Pretty sure she is one of the best earners. I spent a lot of time in Rainbow 4 my first month in Bangkok and never saw her there so someone likes her and when I met her on the BTS she looked disheveled returning from a long time. I really don't do flat ass and she is old but I am a sucker for blonde hair and tats on Asian chicks and that Arkansas look is how you get your dick sucked with her shit on it. Still would not fork a lot of money on her.

[Gorgon]

Seems Rainbow 2 and 4 have added new talent. Don't get too excited. Don't think one would rate above 5. 5 on the richter scale. LOL. More filler material type girls.

My rain 4 favorite said she will go to my Asoke hotel. Thank you lord. God bless. But she put restrictions on the times I can barfine her. LOL. She was explaining why but I couldn't really follow her line of reasoning, I try again to see what she was saying.

I'm just guessing maybe she wanted something in return for going a farther distance to do her duties.

I thought she would raise prices but NO!

Once she sees that my hotel is not in some out of the way soi maybe the restrictions willl come off. 5-10 minute walk to my hotels in Nana. 5 minute taxi ride to my Asoke hotel- same same time wise.

What I would give to know what the girls think about us. LOL.So you basically have to beg to pay her barfine? I can see why she treat you like she wishes.

[PinkPearl]

Aren't you the guy who says 5000 baht massage parlour quality girls walk the streets?The only time I even read a massage thread is when all the planets are in alignment.


I miss you man! There is NO requirement to buy anyone drinks other than one for yourself. Come on man-you should know better!I do know better, which is why I never said that.


You have a brother in arms. Very good writer but a bit of a sweetmouth as the girls would say. Dude is doing multiple 10/10s in Pattaya when its common knowledge 10/10s don't hang out in agogos, beer bars, beach road, etc. 10s are not even available to us riff raff tourist types!I'd love to see your 10. Can you dig one up out of the photo thread, or shall we just assume it's one of Britney Spears, Jenifer Aniston or Angelina Jolie? Don't be shy.

[Galinsoga]

Sir Lancelot. My thanks echo those of others. Your reports have been well written and interesting. I admire you for the 22 Ladies in a short time. You are undoubtedly a LOT younger than me (71) and I just wish I had your stamina. But I do my best.

For me you sum up everything in one of your sentences

"Treating girls nicely isn't just about giving them tips if they deserve it, it's about treating them like human beings"

Ladies should always be treated as Ladies no matter what their profession.

Cheers.

Gali

[Gorgon]

i was going to go out with a bang but ended up with more of a fizzle in a way. started out the day with a trip to mango to clear the pipes and prevent any premature overpreasure during the nights main event. cherry and tulip had been somewhat bland earlier in the week so expectations were mild for mango as they have gotten some flak for various issues. i was arriving with a spring in my step and a list of mango star names to try out. all plans go to hell on contact with reality though, they had the in rotation and as i had yet to do a "big bone" lady this trip i went with it. big bone for my big bone.

there is an auto filter in isg that reacts to the ladies name so it is impossible to write it. it is how you say "the" in ebonics so you will have to change out the name where it looks funny in the text.

the is a somewhat reserved lady, i think she is low in english and keeps a low mellow style partly due to this. she is pro all the way just as i like it and is persistent in her ministrations even if not the best "take care" service i have ever had. i was sure the heat had killed all my intentions for multishot but the expertly brought me back to life and made it happen a second time. one of the few ladies that managed this with me this tour. bbbj and cim never an issue, true mango experience like it used to be known. there's been some grumbling about having to pre-pay at the counter downstairs but i thought nothing of it. the lady manning the register explained it that 600 was the room fee and 1500 to the lady just like it has always been. i don't know if this is really true or not and it feels a bit rotten to not give at least a token tip before leaving the room. first the looked a bit pissed before smiling a bit. i will lay it on their feet if she was slighted. don't claim the standard fee of 1500b is for the lady if it isn't. the fee has always been 1500 and my tip was to be polite.

later in the evening i was looking to molest something sweet and the suzy wong show usually has a few candidates. i had some numbers in mind that might not be up to the superstar standards of some posters here but they sure get my dirty old man engine running. i don't know if they shuffle the numbers or not so the numbers might not match up with this report later on. i have a thing for no 45, she has some super basic foot moves that still makes her look more alive than the other shufflers. she looked worn out today so i did not approach. her face is a bit undecided up close. i saved my feelers for no 71, she has that korean house milf look going. skulking about terminal 21 and asoke you can see them in droves and as i don't have any chance at all there, no 71 was going to have to be stand in. i think she was surprised when i tipped her and hid for a while, the ladyboy soon pushed her out and told me the lady is very shy and to be considerate. did the chit chat but she refused everything other than a coke and just wanted to split.

she might be doing the whole shy thing as an accessory to her looks who knows, it works for her. what doesn't work is that her snatch is child sized (i am extrapolating here, i don't screw minors). back in my room i discovered it just isn't going to happen. her smoking stamina is not enough to get me there and her hand job skills needs some work. she wanted to cuddle up a bit to make it worth my while but i had already peeked on the clock and saw it was 40 minutes until [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) closes. i politely said we might as well finish this up, paid her and sent her off in a cab. then i legged it to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and let mook try to save the evening. she delivered like a postalworker.

[PinkPearl]

I have been browsing NEP, the parkinglot and the buss stop during my other errands and I'm agreeing to other posters claims of the lack of good looking talent. Daytime or after midnight the entire nana area is ladyboy central. Everyone I considered showing any kind of compensation to was an obvious or turned out to be a very convincing LB.IMO the best time to browse the NCP is in the late afternoon to early evening, well before midnight.

IME in the last month & since 07 you won't see many street working LBs in the daytime around NEP, while genuine ladies are much more common, including some lookers. Perhaps all the moreso with the rainfalls coming in the evenings lately & girls wanting to avoid paying tea tax to the raiders that often come at night.

BTW speaking of daytime action, small flyers were being handed out on Wednesday afternoon in front of NEP & the Nana Hotel sign advertising an early opening of some bars in NEP. The paper stated from 1 PM Lollipop, Obsession & Hollywood, beer bars & a go-gos open. 599 baht all you can drink, or 80 baht single spirits & local beers, till 8 PM. Applies also to all ground floor beer bars.


Sure there was some SYTs behind the parking lot sign but they "had standards" and I don't deal with that shit from 1000bath starfish hookers. I have done them a few times but a rolled up newspaper could be a stand in for most of them sex wise.Had standards, eh. You mean they wanted to use a condom? For a mere 1000 baht or 30 USD what were you expecting from a SYT, BB anal with PSE? If you prefer, brandname R4 across the street gives you exactly the same quality of girl & dead duck experience for 3X the price. Or you could offer the NCP lady a tip or a decent wage & be surprised at what suddenly happens to her "standards". I can assure you a 1 hour BBBJ would not be out of the realm of infinite possibilities. Try getting that from a gogo girl.


You might not realize it but the above puts you in the majority. What you are basically saying is hot street girl are just inferior to hot agogo girl, thats why you can get them for 1000.

Which is what the majority are saying.

PS 2500 is more common for hot agogo girls now. 50% discount if you go meet them after hours at disco-so I hear. LOL.Clearly that's not what I was saying. My point was you pay more for the name or label, even though the products are the same. I've taken hot street working girls who would be top 3 superstars in any Bangkok gogo, lookswise. Moreover, in fact, some of them previously worked in gogos like R4.

As far as what the majority are saying, I'd rather hear what the top 5% cutting edge minority knows than inquire of the mob mentality. In that vein I believe both Sir Lancelot & Mr Luke 666 recently & eloquently put you in your place re where hotties can be found.

[Razor]

Well done! I'd been following your diary as the others here and actually I'd been compiling the whole thing. It's 83 pages! Almost a book. You're a professional writer, everything is so smooth, easy to read. It was like I was traveling with you, entertaining stuff. Have a great one.

Best Regards.

Razor

[Sir Lancelot]

Razor.

Hbengkok.

Bionicman.

BiziBoy2012.

Thank you very much. I really do appreciate it when people take time to leave positive comments, it makes all of my effort worthwhile. You might like to know that I posted similar diaries in the Philippines section of this website.


Sir Lancelot. My thanks echo those of others. Your reports have been well written and interesting. I admire you for the 22 Ladies in a short time. You are undoubtedly a LOT younger than me (71) and I just wish I had your stamina. But I do my best.

For me you sum up everything in one of your sentences

"Treating girls nicely isn't just about giving them tips if they deserve it, it's about treating them like human beings"

Ladies should always be treated as Ladies no matter what their profession.

Cheers.

GaliI'm really glad you identified with that comment. I think these girls are brilliant. They're fun, silly, cute, affectionate, bright, inquisitive and they are choosing to do what they do often for their families. It's funny, in the western press these girls are portrayed as victims but they're actually strong girls who deserve nothing but utmost respect.

[Phordphan]

My rain 4 favorite said she will go to my Asoke hotel. Thank you lord. God bless. But she put restrictions on the times I can barfine her. LOL. She was explaining why but I couldn't really follow her line of reasoning, I try again to see what she was saying.

What I would give to know what the girls think about us. LOL.Dude, I think it's obvious what she thinks of you. And it ain't pretty.

Why some guys let these hookers walk all over them is a mystery to me.

[Goatscrot]

Girsl Attitudes arent awful (Maybe they are-but many are ok-does take work to find one you like). Yours is- you want perfection. LOL. You live here you know the game at the Rainbows. Short time is short time- pornstar experience not on the table, bad value, yadda yadda yadda.

This is how its playing out. Maybe she figured since she had to travel VERY FAR (her wording) , she doesn't know exact location of hotel-it really isn't very far. 3.5 minute walk to Terminal 21, to make it worthwhile she would slot me in her downtime (Start of shift).

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of that given timeslot, so I haven't had a barfine in a week and a half.

The kicker is when I do show up she is usually available to be barfined (no customer). Endgame-she missed out of 2 barfines from me. We both end up as losers!Man, you are still catering to her and that is the problem. I do live here, so I don't have to cater to working girls. I did not move here to cater to working girls. I expect them to cater to me, which most all did for years, until more and more dudes started deferring to them as they do to women in the West. Now we have working girls who think the customer should cater to them, not the other way around.

Won't go to Asoke? Give me a break. It is at worst a 10 min cab ride in traffic. They expect to hit the ST Hotel in Nana for 15. 20 min and make 2k-3k baht. The amazing thing is dudes allow this. And yes, it is the customer that is creating this attitude, not the gal. GoGos were a wild amount of fun when I moved here. Making out with gals you bought drinks for. Getting hammered with gals in the bars, gals wanting to go LT, etc. Now, meh! Sorry an Isaan girl who is a 7 in looks (about the best you will find in any gogo) and really is not all that skilled in the sack, and wants to hurry on top of it. Give me a break.

[Goatscrot]

I think these girls are brilliant. They're fun, silly, cute, affectionate, bright, inquisitive and they are choosing to do what they do often for their families. It's funny, in the western press these girls are portrayed as victims but they're actually strong girls who deserve nothing but utmost respect.Simply continuing the cycle of poverty really. Big regional differences in Thailand. Isaan,"send the kid to work as soon as we can so they can send back money. Then we are on easy street." The North and South,"let's do all we can to get our kids through Uni so they will have it better than we do."

I was always floored when these gals would say,"have to take care of family." I would tell them to take care of themselves first. Save their money, start a biz, etc. If mom and dad want money, tell them to come to BKK and service foreigners.

[NeverGetsOld]

Off to foodland for some breakfast fare and if I can find something to cum on, all the merrier.

Scope the area out and about to return home when I see big naturals on a light skin girl. It's a wrap.

She instantly accepts my 500 baht and bring her to my room.

Another druggie. I am but have to get even better at identifying these girls who play with ice and cocaine because I think they might just take 200 baht.

She has a belly but I'm actually digging her cute face, huge round ass and juicy thighs to go with those sloppy big ole titties.

Unfortunately my first stinky thai pussy and in general first stinky pussy in awhile. Guess that should be expected if you are lucky enough to spot something fuckable in nana at 5am.

Girl has been working at one of those outdoor bars from S3 to S7 and don't want to try to imagine the type of dick I'm following on this one but would recommend her service.

Has a house over $4M in Chiang Mai so she gets paid.

Another 1 for the resume when I apply for hell.

[Juicyclamlover]

BKK Report.

I had a short 2 nighter in BKK last w / e.

Stayed at the Woraburi in Soi 4 (Nana) which was good value at less than 1000 THB a night, so close to the action.

Saturday afternoon had an early look in the Biergarden at around 1pm. 1 or 2 looked promising but decided to pass after a couple of beers.

Went to the new Hillary bar in Soi 4 (used to be Strykers which is now further down the Soi) and ended up with a girl. 30 years old, for a couple of hours who's spec fitted the bill. A nice couple of pops in 2 and half hours, plenty of BBBJ, multiple positions, no A for 1500 THB.

In the evening I did a bit of a crawl around Nana and ended up in Rainbow 2 where there were some very nice looking entertainers, Mandarin had some nice lookers too. Took a 24 year old for 30000 THB LT from R2, no CIM or A but everything else on offer. A nice GFE experience slow and gentle and certainly would repeat there with their selection.

Sunday afternoon took a stroll down to Soi 26/24 around 2pm. Was going to try Addict but the girls I wanted were already booked but a new place and adding new girls since my visit.

Ended up in Mango, report will be added in the relevant MP section.

In the evening went to a few of the older haunts like Morning Night with the intention of going back to R2.

Instead I BF'the from there, a lovely who was just great company in and out of the bar, one of those times you just click and we really did have a good laugh before heading back to the hotel.

She was another GFE but a bit raunchier than my previous Beer Bar BF, took CIM but no A she was very slim with ample tits for her size which allowed a session of tit fucking as well as all the usual positions. 2500 THB for LT and she left at midday as I had to get out of the hotel for my 3 nighter in Pattaya.

All in all quieter than I expected after not being in town for a year but certainly plenty of choice.

[BionicMan]

I really do appreciate it when people take time to leave positive comments, it makes all of my effort worthwhile. You might like to know that I posted similar diaries in the Philippines section of this website.I'm really glad you identified with that comment. I think these girls are brilliant. They're fun, silly, cute, affectionate, bright, inquisitive and they are choosing to do what they do often for their families. It's funny, in the western press these girls are portrayed as victims but they're actually strong girls who deserve nothing but utmost respect.Seen of course your Philippines and Cambodia reports. Better than National Geographic.

On your last paragraph I beg to differ a bit.

We are surely not at level of slavery or human traffick (as in some cases happens in both FE and EE) , and in some cases girls are happy to do what they do (you can see this by the approach and sort of enjoyment they have on these P4P encounters, not coming only from the $$ earnings) But I still think for some of them it is a sort of compromise in life.

Lack of education and working opportunities direct some of these girls in being providers for the trade, but I am sure that some will be ready to change for a more normal job.

Fact is that some of them are not prepared to a normal working life as lack of the minimum education or of the basic mental preparation.

Working means also following more strict rules than working at a bar or in a MP.

Some of them cannot interact with basic english to progress into some better jobs. So getting into the P4P job is a compromise.

Some do it with good approach and some do it a bit careless and will not get the best out of it.

But this happens also in normal jobs.

Accepting the job, whatever job it is, helps in standing also the bad sides of it.

[PinkPearl]

Guys are not paying for a brand name. The brand name Rainbow 4 get customers in the door I do agree. But guys end up paying for the individual girl they like.

Any fool can see see not all Rainbow 4 girls are of the same tier. Some are very beautiful. Many above aveverage looks. A whole lot of average looking. And the CABOOSE girls who bring up the rear. LOL. Personally I don't know what the CABOOSE types get, never did research as I don't want them to get their hope too high in that I might barfine them-I have no problem asking a good earner what they charge just to get a feel for pricing.Rainbow 4 is the "brand name" that street girls of the same quality & for 1/3 the price don't have.

All of the following is included in the Rainbow 4 "brand name" that isn't included with street girls:

1. A chair to sit in.

2. Some nudity.

3. Air con.

4. Drinks served.

5. Roof over your head.

6. Music.

7. Lame assed dancing show.

That's what you're paying extra (3X as much) for when you pick up a hot gogo based hooker instead of a hot street based sex worker. Not a better looking girl.

Some guys think, without any proof I've seen, that they are also getting a cleaner girl as far as STIs & drugs are concerned, if they take a gogo lady instead of a street girl. They might assume R4 girls are tested for STDs & outdoor SWs are not. I've had a dozen street girls tested for HIV who were 100% all negative. OTOH Stickman did report some gogo prostitutes still working while HIV positive & there have been posts re a few street girls doing the same.

Some also think they can make the gogo girl to be held accountable, unlike the street girl. Do you think the gogo manager will listen to your complaint of poor service or attitude or not living up to what was agreed to? Is it worth the bother? Does this accountability equate to better service? From reports I've seen most are dissatisfied with gogo girls performance in the sack.

With the gogos you have to pay a BF (600 baht & up) & drink upfront before you get any bed time. With street girls it's always pay everything after, so if the girl sucks the ball is in your court. If she causes problems, presumably hotel security has her I. D card & will deal with her. I've never had any serious issues. Better to waste 1000 on a poor performer than 3000 baht.

R4 costs more because they can get away with it & they need to do so due to their overhead costs, like advertising, tea money, utilities, employees wages, etc. Street workers don't have these costs, so can charge less.

Don't fool yourself into thinking hot gogo SWs are any hotter than hot street SWs. The only difference is the price & what comes with the brand name.

So if you want to blow 2, 500 baht ST plus BF plus drinks for the brand name R4 hottie, feel free. Others will dish out only 1000 to 1500 for the no name brand street girl who is equally attractive.

Personally, I'm going to follow this advice: "Save your money".

[Gorgon]

Had standards, eh. You mean they wanted to use a condom? For a mere 1000 baht or 30 USD what were you expecting from a SYT, BB anal with PSE? If you prefer, brandname R4 across the street gives you exactly the same quality of girl & dead duck experience for 3X the price. Or you could offer the NCP lady a tip or a decent wage & be surprised at what suddenly happens to her "standards". I can assure you a 1 hour BBBJ would not be out of the realm of infinite possibilities. Try getting that from a gogo girl.I never ask around for BB and I ask them for the price so I can estimate their interest if any, I might bargain from 2k to 1. 5k, lower is useless. If the initial is over 2k I just pass to the next one. They are freelancers so they are free to not deal with people in shorts if they choose not to. Hence standards, they like handsum men just as much as the next girl, I accept that and will not beg or try to bribe her with drinks.

[PinkPearl]

I never ask around for BB and I ask them for the price so I can estimate their interest if any, I might bargain from 2k to 1. 5k, lower is useless. If the initial is over 2k I just pass to the next one. They are freelancers so they are free to not deal with people in shorts if they choose not to. Hence standards, they like handsum men just as much as the next girl, I accept that and will not beg or try to bribe her with drinks.My response was to your comment about 1000 baht SYT street working girls at NCP. Now you're talking about less than 1500 being impossible? Sorry, you've lost me.

Furthermore, your prices in this quote are gogo girl prices, not streetwalker prices, yet you refer to them as "freelancers" which is not normally used of employees of gogos, but rather of independent girls who have no boss, such as those on the street or in places like Beergarden restaurant and Thermae coffee shop / bar. Perhaps you can see my confusion re your post.

As to the matter of the mysterious girls you are referring to having "standards", it seems you are saying now they rejected you because you wore shorts or were not considered "handsome", even though you claimed to have succeeded in boinking these same girls. How can that be? Did you forget to comb your hair on the day of your rejection, while you did comb it on the days you banged them?

[Goatscrot]

Mr G.

I'm agreeing with you again. LOL. How anyone can think being a prostitute is a good thing is mind boggling. Sure we have fun but for the girls its a dead end like no other.

With my current favorite I told her why don't you skim off some of the money you send to momma to take care of yourself. She said no can. She's quite an earner so I figured she could help momma and herself, not just momma!Amen. And let us remember, it is a choice they make. Gals NEP are not sold into the game. It is the easy way out. With less than 1% unemployment gals can make a living doing other things. Also student loans are readily available, but many are too locked into their useless parasitic families. I would never take care of a deadbeat family.

[Sir Lancelot]

I'm agreeing with you again. LOL. How anyone can think being a prostitute is a good thing is mind boggling. Sure we have fun but for the girls its a dead end like no otherI didn't say being a prostitute is a good thing, as you are well aware.

Your 'dead end' comments once again shows how clueless you are. Seriously, do you ever actually TALK to the girls?

Also, I was wondering, what does LOL stand for in your posts? You use it on average every ten words. At first I thought it might be 'laugh out loud', like kids and young teenagers say, but now I'm thinking it might stand for something different:

Likes Overpaying Ladies?

[JayHighFive]

Vasu usually gives the best rate of any moneychanger between Nana and Soi 11. When I'm near Cowboy I go to the Citibank ATM at Sukhumvit/Soi Asoke. I have a Citibank account in the U.S.I am interested in this question too.

[Phordphan]

Man, you are still catering to her and that is the problem. I do live here, so I don't have to cater to working girls. I did not move here to cater to working girls. I expect them to cater to me, which most all did for years, until more and more dudes started deferring to them as they do to women in the West. Now we have working girls who think the customer should cater to them, not the other way around.

Won't go to Asoke? Give me a break. It is at worst a 10 min cab ride in traffic. They expect to hit the ST Hotel in Nana for 15. 20 min and make 2k-3k baht. The amazing thing is dudes allow this. And yes, it is the customer that is creating this attitude, not the gal. GoGos were a wild amount of fun when I moved here. Making out with gals you bought drinks for. Getting hammered with gals in the bars, gals wanting to go LT, etc. Now, meh! Sorry an Isaan girl who is a 7 in looks (about the best you will find in any gogo) and really is not all that skilled in the sack, and wants to hurry on top of it. Give me a break.got to agree with the Goat. The analysis is spot on. Who would have thought that BKK go-gos would have devolved into $100 quickie factories? Yet another reason to avoid go-gos, IMHO. They sure ain't what they used to be. I can get the same thing in Tijuana, with better looking girls in many cases, for $20.

Oh, and BTW."You can only barfine me during certain hours?" Seriously? I would have said OK and grabbed the next girl I saw in the bar and headed out, and made sure every girl in the place saw me. Serious loss of face on her part. Asoke, indeed!

[Goatscrot]

got to agree with the Goat. The analysis is spot on. Who would have thought that BKK go-gos would have devolved into $100 quickie factories? Yet another reason to avoid go-gos, IMHO. They sure ain't what they used to be. I can get the same thing in Tijuana, with better looking girls in many cases, for $20.

Oh, and BTW."You can only barfine me during certain hours?" Seriously? I would have said OK and grabbed the next girl I saw in the bar and headed out, and made sure every girl in the place saw me. Serious loss of face on her part. Asoke, indeed!BTW, go read the London forum. 40-60 quid gets you two pops with a hot Eastern Euro gal that provides very good service. That is less than BF, ST, and ST hotel for a quick pop with a Thai GoGo gal and London is an expensive city. Wake up guys. It is way overpriced here.

[Linkwray666]

Please only respond if you actually seen what a hot Thai girl looks like.Please show us all what YOU think a hot Thai girl looks like.

You are the self-proclaimed "resident expert", you think Lance's girls are 5. 5's? Okay, so show us what a "6","7","8","9", and "10" look like in your "expert" opinion.

[Dr BJ]

Don't fool yourself into thinking hot gogo SWs are any hotter than hot street SWs. The only difference is the price & what comes with the brand name.I have to agree with this perspective. In fact in the relatively short time I have been in Thailand I have noticed a distinct decline in the attitude and quality of service from go-go girls.

Regards,

BJ

[Linkwray666]

I give them a 5. 5.Read this, it might help:

http://www.realmendrinkwhiskey.com/how-to-rate-girls/

[Dr BJ]

Anyway lets have some fun. SAy Mr Lances girls were all from the street. What ratings would you give them as a group.

Mr L we have to assume he would post the best he got-he thinks they are 9s and 10s. LOL.

I think as a group rating they are avg Thailand fare, so I give them a 5. 5.Harold, you are missing the point here completely and in doing so are leaving yourself wide open for a less than positive response. It is irrelevant how you or anyone else rates the girls Mr L considers to be top of the pile street workers.

For example number 24 at Annie's has been well documented on this forum to the point of reverence. A very long time friend of mine tried her back in March and rated her as one of the top three experiences he has ever had and believe me he has had his fair share and more. Personally she just does not do it for me looks wise, the point being a rating system is only relevant to the person making the rating. Another friend who lives here laughs when I point out a lady I think is hot, his tastes are completely opposite.

You rate Mr L's top choice of ladies as 5. 5 but as in the case of Pattaya you have never seen them? I am not having a dig at you, I am simply suggesting you might do well to reign your neck in a bit instead of criticizing other people's choice of venue or ladies.

Incidentally I am impressed you seem to be branching out and going to Cowboy instead of being bled dry by the same R4 girl who keeps heaping on more and more preconditions. Try to remember there are a million of them for you to choose from, there are not a million of you for them to choose from. You are the Boss, respect them by all means but never lose sight of the fact you are the one calling the "shots".

Regards,

BJ

[Dutch44]

Hi Guys,

Spent a few days in Bangkok. Fun can be had here. Still a good place to go. WG on street will ask 1000 Baht for ST, real low price, yeah. But lot of them are ladyboys. Not my thing at all. Girl at GoGo is 600 Baht Barfine plus 2000 Baht shorttime which you can negotiate to 1500 for ST if it's getting late night time (say after 01h00). Depends on the girl. So it is possible to have 2 hours of fun for 2100 baht = some 55 Euro. That's a good deal guys. I'm still very much in favour of Bangkok. Girls are mostly kind too, friendlier than Vietnam's, Chinese. Just MHO.

Called Cherry's massage for outcall. 2500 for 2 hours. Asked for the girl Vodka. She is pretty tall (1m70) , Somewhat Chinese looking and sexy / friendly. She loved DATY and I did too. Good experience. Just treat her well and she'll return the favour.

Enjoy,

Dutch44

[Dutch44]

Another thing I wanted to share: In Soi Cowboy I most liked the SHARKS GoGo bar. Good energy, nice girls, really good music. It was also the place that had the least girls trying to pull people in from the street all the time. I 'm sure there are other good bars too, but this one turned out to be my favourite.

Enjoy

[BionicMan]

Please show us all what YOU think a hot Thai girl looks like.

You are the self-proclaimed "resident expert", you think Lance's girls are 5. 5's? Okay, so show us what a "6","7","8","9", and "10" look like in your "expert" opinion.Have the feeling we might end up in seeing a 4, relabelled 9. Just as some shops do when playing with price tags.

[Oldian]

Rainbow 4 is the "brand name" that street girls of the same quality & for 1/3 the price don't have.

All of the following is included in the Rainbow 4 "brand name" that isn't included with street girls:

1. A chair to sit in.

2. Some nudity.

3. Air con.

4. Drinks served.

5. Roof over your head.

6. Music.

7. Lame assed dancing show...I nominate this for post of the year! All of the reasons as to why I stopped frequenting the gogos a long long time ago. Complete, total, absolute ripoff these days.

[Gorgon]

My response was to your comment about 1000 baht SYT street working girls at NCP. Now you're talking about less than 1500 being impossible? Sorry, you've lost me.

Furthermore, your prices in this quote are gogo girl prices, not streetwalker prices, yet you refer to them as "freelancers" which is not normally used of employees of gogos, but rather of independent girls who have no boss, such as those on the street or in places like Beergarden restaurant and Thermae coffee shop / bar. Perhaps you can see my confusion re your post.

As to the matter of the mysterious girls you are referring to having "standards", it seems you are saying now they rejected you because you wore shorts or were not considered "handsome", even though you claimed to have succeeded in boinking these same girls. How can that be? Did you forget to comb your hair on the day of your rejection, while you did comb it on the days you banged them?Impossible? Lower is useless I wrote. I have taken the parking lot girls for 1k in trips before when I did not really care if they cared or not. As I get older I do prefer some signs of pulse. The confusion might be from that I did not differentiate in detail between the parking lot and the gogo area? I assumed people could reason that one out unaided.

[Allover]

Much has been written here about a possible decline in the performance of Rainbow 4 and other go go girls in general. In BKK everything is negotiable. When I am discussing ST with a go go girl I always talk about the time she will be required to spend and whether it is 1 or 2 pops. I used to get 2 pops most of the time but one is usually enough now for ST for me. I'm not getting any younger.

In Nana Plaza go go girl negotiations, I always clarify that we will go back to my hotel and not use the short time rooms there. Some of the Nana hotties prefer to use the ST rooms there but I don't.

[Linkwray666]

Another thing I wanted to share: In Soi Cowboy I most liked the SHARKS GoGo bar. Good energy, nice girls, really good music. It was also the place that had the least girls trying to pull people in from the street all the time. I 'm sure there are other good bars too, but this one turned out to be my favourite.

EnjoyAgree 100, Shark is tops for me as well. Will be the first place I hit on my next trip.

[Linkwray666]

Have the feeling we might end up in seeing a 4, relabelled 9. Just as some shops do when playing with price tags.I have the feeling we will see nothing, the guy is all talk and no walk.

[WhiteWhale]

Hi!

I'm new so I hope I'm asking in the right place.

I am going to Bangkok in a couple of weeks and am arriving at about 08:00 am at my hotel in Sukhumvit Road. I would like to instantly start having sex. I have looked around at some of the more famous venues but with no luck, not even with outcall services. For example the Eden Club dosen't seem to be possible to book ladies from them earlier than noon.

The earliest place I have found for visits is Annies at 10:00, but that to seems a little late for me as I will want to get right down to business on arrival. Preferably I would like one or a couple of ladies waiting for me in the hotelroom when I arrive. Preferably somewhat "high end" girls (I. E. Young and slim).

Both advice on outcall services and places to visit between 8-10 am would be of great help!

Is it possible to have sex in Bangkok at such an early hour?

[Sir Lancelot]

Whats this fascination with stunners and Harold? I'm not the one claiming I found and fucked stunners. Its mr Lance who is making the claim. I just commented the pics he posted are not stunners. Mr Kramden said the sameYet again, you completely miss the point. Do you think someone who reviews books for a living thinks to themselves 'hmm. What would everyone else mark it? '. They don't, they mark it on how much THEY enjoyed it. It was my diary, with my personal thoughts and experiences. If I mark a girl 10/10 then they are exactly the type I go for. Not just looks-wise but attitude, personality and performance. I went with 22 girls on this trip and I rated four of them 10/10s. That's because for a few hours they were the perfect girl for me. I wouldn't expect them to be perfect for you or other people, just ME. It was MY diary. It's not rocket science but seemingly beyond your comprehension.

I don't for one moment expect everyone to think the girls I posted photos of are 'stunners', nor do I look for 'validation' as you ridiculously suggest on the Photo Gallery thread. I accept that guys go for different types of girls, unlike you who has an overly simplistic and hopelessly naive view that there is a definitive right and wrong when it comes to beauty! According to you, the girls you like are great and the girls others like are 'standard fare'.

It's perhaps this arrogance and lack of respect for other people opinions and the girls in general that makes you the least popular person I have encountered on this forum and the reason why people block you and you receive so many STFU's. I notice you've had yet another post deleted by admin for being 'antagonistic' but quite honestly I am staggered that you haven't had your account deleted because that's all you do, antagonise. You don't add anything to this forum at all. This thread has had some really great field reports on it recently but they're all buried beneath an avalanche of your juvenile ramblings.

On a side-note, I want to dispel a myth that Dr BJ picked upon. I did not suggest that all freelance girls in Nana Hotel's parking lot are 'stunners', as you well know. I suggested that some of them were good-looking young girls and could easily be on stage in the gogo bars. Big difference. I even provided a photo. Freelance scenes by their very nature have gems just waiting to be found. You just can't accept this. You naively think that the more money you pay, the better the girl which perfectly demonstrates how little you know.

You also seem fixated by saying that I said that gogo girls can be bar-fined for 1000 baht. I never said that, as you well know. I simply retold my experience on day two of my diary, when I bar-fined a lovely girl from Shark for 2000 baht (she quoted 2500 but unlike you I talked her down in price). She was a very pretty girl with a fun personality and a definite head-turner (I wrote about a specific instance in my diary in fact). We went to my room for short-time and then afterwards she told me that she was going to Nana Liquid and invited me along. She told me she often goes to the clubs after work. The rest is common sense. I paid BF600 + ST2000 + four lady-drinks for her, over 3000 in total. Had I met her in the nightclub later that night do you really think I'd pay that much for short-time? Of course not. I reckon 1500 tops which is half price. This very basic concept seems completely beyond your grasp.

Regarding the photos of girls, I genuinely don't mind one bit whether you think they are pretty or not. In fact I find it comforting that we go for different types of girls! But I can't let your comment about Mr Kramden pass by without comment. It's funny how you call upon support from Mr Kramden but he said 'excellent collection of girls' and 'All great but #s 9 and 10 are exceptional'. How is that supporting your argument that my girls are ugly? You're really not very bright are you?

[Streetwalker7]

Harold, you are missing the point here completely and in doing so are leaving yourself wide open for a less than positive response. It is irrelevant how you or anyone else rates the girls Mr L considers to be top of the pile street workers.

For example number 24 at Annie's has been well documented on this forum to the point of reverence. A very long time friend of mine tried her back in March and rated her as one of the top three experiences he has ever had and believe me he has had his fair share and more. Personally she just does not do it for me looks wise, the point being a rating system is only relevant to the person making the rating. Another friend who lives here laughs when I point out a lady I think is hot, his tastes are completely opposite..JMy friend the Dr is back. I'm incognito, I may have been a bit too aggressive on one my posts.

You are a very straight shooter. So am I. I tell it like it is. I need not be as straight as you as I'm anonymous, I can be more intense one might say. All in fun though- I really don't take BKK prostitution seriously-never did never will. It s serious for the girls.its their lives.

1. Rating systems do work (although I could argue pricing is a better indicator of girls looks). A guy did a writeup a few months back. Ex. Ugly Thai girl is probably considered ugly in Mexico and vice versa.

2. Weve seen Mr Lancelots flock of girls. He posted like 7 of them. Go find it and give us your thoughts-its in recent post maybe in photo thread. I'm not criticizing anyones choice of venues. But his claims to finding 9s and 10s is just silly.

I still haven't seen anyone rate his girls as a group. I think its because guys don't want to hurt his feelings.

I give you Pattaya as a point against me. But their pricing screams unattractive girls by the boatload. Its not uncommon to see other guys with my view also.

Ill confess I've never actually walked more than 20 feet into the Beergarden. Knowing their pricing and what I saw 5 feet into the place I didn't need to go all the way in to see what its all about. Had the feel of a old mans Hells Angels kind of place.

3. I said I tell it like it is. Example. I've been here a week- my observation of Rainbow 4 is it sucks at the moment-downright awful. Even my sweet asshole lovely girl can't keep me coming every night. She is about the only thing that interest me there now. My attendance there is god awful now. 50% attendance rate.

Can you give me examples how my Rainbow 4 girl is bleeding me dry? I have fun I pay-isn't that how it works. I guess you missed out on the post where I said I had over 150 sessions with a VIP massage girl. If this girl came back from phuket I'd get 150 more sessions.

About me branching out on this trip-you are very observant fellow. Last night went to VIP massage to give it another try. Got the girl I wanted but oops she started with the towel routine. Luckily all went well- good enough that ill repeat in the near future.

Went to Rainbow 2. Very nice lineup, then 15 minutes in the hot girls-those who I doubt will go to after hours disco and charge 1000, started getting barfined. In a matter of minutes the line-up was full of cabooses.

On a whim I went into Rainbow 1. The line-up was immensely better than what Rainbow 4 has at the moment. Simply amazing! It was a full house too, only seat open were stage seats.

Sharks has been dropped off my to do list. There 70 baht happy hour not good anymore.

Feel free to rip my butt to shreds if you want, more fun!

[Monopoly]

Gentlemen, the reports I am reading are starting to worry me. Has BKK really gotten as bad as it sounds for mongers?

Are there as many pretty ladies available as a few years ago or have they gone elsewhere to ply their trade? Is 1500ST / 2000-2500LT still the norm for attractive go-go girls? Is there really a crisis of poor attitudes and sub-one-hour ST's?

Spend time in Bangkok or head straight to Pattaya? What % of a trip would you recommend to be allocated to visiting BKK?

Yeah, I know a lot of questions but maybe someone will see a question they would like to answer.

Thanks!

[Goatscrot]

I nominate this for post of the year! All of the reasons as to why I stopped frequenting the gogos a long long time ago. Complete, total, absolute ripoff these days.Yep, spot on. That combined with the lack of performance and the want to hurry back to the bar to get another 2k ST makes 'them a complete waste of time, money, and energy.

[Streetwalker7]

Yep, spot on. That combined with the lack of performance and the want to hurry back to the bar to get another 2k ST makes 'them a complete waste of time, money, and energy.I'm still puzzled by guys claims of top Rainbow quality girls are to be had walking the street. You want to opine MR Goat. Theres quita a few ugly Rainbow girls that belong on the street.

I just don't see the avg and above girls doing street work for 1000 baht. What the f. K am I missing?

[Streetwalker7]

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[Streetwalker7]

Forgot. When one of the pretty girls in Rainbow 1 opened her mouth to smile, all I could think of was Mr ED (the horse of course). What an unusual feature! For any of you who wanted to do a farm animal she would be your choice.

[Streetwalker7]

Ippuns are number 1 as far as hooker customers go!

Has anyone ever seen an Ippun negotiating with a streetwalker? I've only seen Indians, Arabs, Pakis, Dodgy Farang hooligan types and africans.

If hot streetwalkers were equivalent to hot Rainbow girls it would make sense ippuns would rather pay 1000 baht over 3000 baht short time. I sure would.

If the hot girls started hanging out at the local BKK library I bet the Ippuns would be right on their tail.

Nana liquids doesn't scream out hot chicks, certainly not Head Turners (now its 1500). A head turner (9or above in my scale) should easily be able to get more money.

[Dr BJ]

My friend the Dr is back. I'm incognito, I may have been a bit too aggressive on one my posts.Harold, if you want to post under a pseudonym and remain incognito you are not supposed to tell people you are.


You are a very straight shooter. So am I .I tell it like it is.Harold, you don't 'tell it like it is' you tell it how you interpret it to be. Now everyone is perfectly entitled to have their own point of view but you have demonstrated a rigid inability to accept that other people can have a different perspective without making them misguided or wrong.


1. Rating systems do work (although I could argue pricing is a better indicator of girls looks). A guy did a writeup a few months back. Ex. Ugly Thai girl is probably considered ugly in Mexico and vice versa.I agree rating systems do work but only for the individual person concerned. You seem to have trouble differentiating between what is a fact and what is an opinion. Did you bother to read the link Mr L posted? If not I suggest you do, it explains rating systems are purely subjective and even then there are flaws.


2. Weve seen Mr Lancelots flock of girls. He posted like 7 of them. Go find it and give us your thoughts-its in recent post maybe in photo thread. I'm not criticizing anyones choice of venues. But his claims to finding 9s and 10s is just silly.See above quote.


I still haven't seen anyone rate his girls as a group. I think its because guys don't want to hurt his feelingsYou haven't seen this and probably won't because other people have grasped the principle of subjectivity.


I give you Pattaya as a point against me. But their pricing screams unattractive girls by the boatload. Its not uncommon to see other guys with my view also.Really? What other guys? You seem to be fixated with the notion that pricing is the definitive measurement in any rating system, I disagree, I think there are many other parameters which have to be taken into account.


Can you give me examples how my Rainbow 4 girl is bleeding me dry?Perhaps bleeding you dry was a little strong, I concede. You gave examples yourself. You posted that she was imposing stricter rules IE giving you time slots when you could BF her and at the same time asking for an increase in the ST fee, coupled with an initial reluctance to take a ten minute taxi ride to your Hotel. This is 'not' how it works. At the end of the day it is your money and you can dispose of it as you see fit.

One common trend WG's seem to display is that the more one particular person BF's them the more complacent they become.


About me branching out on this trip-you are very observant fellow. Last night went to VIP massage to give it another try. Got the girl I wanted but oops she started with the towel routine. Luckily all went well- good enough that ill repeat in the near futureGood for you, I am genuinely glad to hear you are going elsewhere and having a good time.


Went to Rainbow 2. Very nice line-up, then 15 minutes in the hot girls-those who I doubt will go to afterhours disco and charge 1000, started getting barfinedI have probably been to five night clubs in the whole time I have lived here and even then went in with a lady so I have no idea of the pricing or origin of the ladies plying their trade there. I think Skogis would probably be best qualified to shed some light on this subject.


Feel free to rip my butt to shreds if you wantIt was never my intention to 'rip your butt to shreds'. I just think you have a narrow perspective in that if someone expresses an opinion that does not fit with what you think is the norm then they are at best delusional and at worst completely wrong.

Regards,

BJ

[SanLuisMex]

Been to Dominica Republic and Costa Rica recently. Live near Tijuana and visit often. Thanks to quality reports like Sir Lances my trips have been the best. Leave for LOS June 26. I have taken notes. If some cute girl grabs my unit after great sex and giggles I miss your banana. That's a 10 in my book. Way to go Sir L.

Thanks for the info.

[TConor]

Hi!

I'm new so I hope I'm asking in the right place.

I am going to Bangkok in a couple of weeks and am arriving at about 08:00 am at my hotel in Sukhumvit Road. I would like to instantly start having sex. I have looked around at some of the more famous venues but with no luck, not even with outcall services. For example the Eden Club dosen't seem to be possible to book ladies from them earlier than noon.

The earliest place I have found for visits is Annies at 10:00, but that to seems a little late for me as I will want to get right down to business on arrival. Preferably I would like one or a couple of ladies waiting for me in the hotelroom when I arrive. Preferably somewhat "high end" girls (I. E. Young and slim).

Both advice on outcall services and places to visit between 8-10 am would be of great help!

Is it possible to have sex in Bangkok at such an early hour?When and where will you be arriving in BKK? Traffic man? Early check in? Really? 10 am may be just right for yo.

[Zauberfee]

is it possible to have sex in bangkok at such an early hour?if you don't want to book an escort girl that picks you up at the airport, then [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s at sukhumvit soi 8 might be your best option. probably just a bj, but better than nothing.

anyway i'd rather check out if you can have an early check in at your hotel. shave, take a shower, take a shit, just relax for a couple of minutes and then head to mango massage or cherry massage at 10 am

[Dr BJ]

Gentlemen, the reports I am reading are starting to worry me. Has BKK really gotten as bad as it sounds for mongers?

Are there as many pretty ladies available as a few years ago or have they gone elsewhere to ply their trade? Is 1500ST / 2000-2500LT still the norm for attractive go-go girls? Is there really a crisis of poor attitudes and sub-one-hour ST's?

Spend time in Bangkok or head straight to Pattaya? What % of a trip would you recommend to be allocated to visiting BKK?

Yeah, I know a lot of questions but maybe someone will see a question they would like to answer.

Thanks!I think Bangkok is still a great place to live or visit. In essence I think the places to have good service is shifting from the go-go bars to the massage parlours, this is only my opinion. A few years ago it seemed every now and again you got bad service from a go-go girl, I think this has changed to every now and again you get very good service from these girls. In my favourite soapy I have had one average performance and all the rest have been very good. Personally I am drifting towards massage places as opposed to go-go's. As far as pricing in concerned it is more like 2, 000 for ST and 3-4, 000 LT (this is for Bangkok). I am not saying this is a concrete price structure across the board but as a general guide line.

I would suggest staying in Bangkok for a few days before heading to Pattaya. Whether you prefer one over the other is a matter of personal taste.

[Sir Lancelot]

Gentlemen, the reports I am reading are starting to worry me. Has BKK really gotten as bad as it sounds for mongers?

Are there as many pretty ladies available as a few years ago or have they gone elsewhere to ply their trade? Is 1500ST / 2000-2500LT still the norm for attractive go-go girls? Is there really a crisis of poor attitudes and sub-one-hour ST's?

Spend time in Bangkok or head straight to Pattaya? What % of a trip would you recommend to be allocated to visiting BKK?

Yeah, I know a lot of questions but maybe someone will see a question they would like to answer.

Thanks!Do not be worried at all, you will have a great time. There are still LOTS of pretty girls. I was in Bangkok recently. I recommend visiting Mandarin, Rainbow4, Shark, Tilac and Baccara. Sub-one-hour short-times only seem to happen to one member on here, now deleted, but if you are worried about it when you talk money in the bar with your choice of girl, ask 'short-time. 2 hours? '. Your prices are a little out-of-date though. Good-looking gogo girls in Bangkok will ask for 2500 short-time but if you've got a bit of charm, all will come down to 2000 without any fuss.

As for what percentage to spend in Bangkok. I'd split it 30% BKK and 70% PTT. I had a great time in Pattaya. Walking Street has BKK prices but is a blast. Lots of pretty girls and lots of great bars. Soi LK Metro is worth visiting, as is Soi 6 is you want a bit of sleaze. The most pleasant surprise for me on my recent trip were the massage parlours. Dream Teen girls give great performance, there are some lovely girls in Sabai Dee, Honey and Honey 2 and treat yourself to a threesome at Devil's Den. It's pricy but worth every baht!

As I said, you will have a great time. Don't let the negative experiences of one person make you think otherwise. Enjoy!

[DRRonin]

gentlemen, the reports i am reading are starting to worry me. has bkk really gotten as bad as it sounds for mongers?

are there as many pretty ladies available as a few years ago or have they gone elsewhere to ply their trade? is 1500st / 2000-2500lt still the norm for attractive go-go girls? is there really a crisis of poor attitudes and sub-one-hour st's?

spend time in bangkok or head straight to pattaya? what % of a trip would you recommend to be allocated to visiting bkk?

yeah, i know a lot of questions but maybe someone will see a question they would like to answer.

thanks!everyone is going to have a different opinion on your questions so to a large extent they are pretty useless. nevertheless, i will give mine.

this is regarding bangkok though i would say in general it is for pattaya as well. when you talk about "are there as many pretty ladies available as a few years ago", you have to differentiate between types of venues. i know nothing about massage parlors or high end gentlemen's clubs. the first i don't enjoy, the second i can't afford. so i basically refer to freelancers and go-go girls.

this will be argued to the end of time, but imo the world of freelancers is a shadow of a shadow of what it was 10 years ago and just a shadow of what it was 3 years ago. i wish i knew why but the freelancer scene has aged considerably on average, many of the old ones are still around and very few younger girls are entering into this market. so the numbers have thinned and they are aging before our eyes, so if you go to some of the once very good fl locations such as the nana parking lot, gullivers, the beer garden and climax and other late night discos, there is much much less talent than there was a few years ago. that doesn't mean you won't find some nice looking girls, it just means it is a lot more work unless you like girls 30+ in which case you will do just fine. i'd say pattaya is the same, beach road is a wasteland, walking street is the walking wounded and the girls who hit the late night discos are younger than in bangkok but not much prettier. thermae is a special case that has already been talked to death, some nice looking girls but mostly preferring a different clientele than farangs, which is of course their right.

gogos are such a mixed bag and so changeable from day to day. most gogos have some very nice looking girls but the majority of girls have no right to be on a stage working their body before our eyes. there are a lot of girls that i feel like paying to keep their clothes on. there have always been unattractive girls in gogos, but this is an onslaught. it is pretty common knowledge here in bkk that the owners of the bars are having a hard time finding pretty girls who want to be largely unclad and allow men to grope them for the price of a drink. i can't imagine why. so they fill the bars with as many girls as the mamasan can scoop up and they range in general from zero-7. but you can find some fine looking girls if you look hard enough and act quickly enough. right now, at this point of time, i have never seen it so bad in nana plaza. it is the slow season and so many of the cute girls from a few months ago, before i went home for 2 months, have just disappeared. so gogos like mercury, mandarin, rb4, billboard and the eroticas that i thought had a lot of good looking girls are now very much lacking in them. the nice thing about visiting of course is that you really only need to find a few to make the trip worthwhile and that is very possible.

as to service, of course it is diminishing. that has been a trend in the go-gos for years now. faster pussycat faster. but what is adding to it is that now the gogos themselves are complicit in this behavior. they often encourage the girls to get back quickly and in some cases they mandate that a short time is really a short time and the girl has to be back by a certain hour. they also often don't want girls being barfined until a certain hour because the real money comes from drinks and no girls=no customers drinking in the bar. and they very much push the girls to use st hotels in the area and there is nothing like a st hotel to take the fun and romance out of the experience. it is all about churning. these places can show something to a boiler room stock operation, which not coincidentally the owners of nana plaza and many of the gogos used to do. the gogos are no longer owned for the most part by ex-pats who knew about service and attitudes. they have all been pushed out and most of the gogos are now owned by businessmen who believe very much in making money and so are running it with an eye towards scale, speed and process. push drinks, push girls. bring in six sigma. and like most businesses that do this, they are taking the life out of it. but all that said, some go-go girls are great, but you need the skill of a fortune teller combined with that of a diviner to know which will give you good service and which won't. i have a friend who uses the 20 question format and that rarely pans out as planned, others who try to get cozy in the bar and gauge the girl's receptiveness and that often fails. i have one friend who won't bar fine a girl till he has sat with her a number of times and bought her drinks before he is willing to take a chance. it's all crazy. you take your chances and often take your lumps.

[Catbird]

if you don't want to book an escort girl that picks you up at the airport, then [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s at sukhumvit soi 8 might be your best option. probably just a bj, but better than nothing.

anyway i'd rather check out if you can have an early check in at your hotel. shave, take a shower, take a shit, just relax for a couple of minutes and then head to mango massage or cherry massage at 10 ami'm not certain when [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s opens. definitely by 11, maybe a bit earlier. you can definitely get laid at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, but best not to wait until you're upstairs to find out. a quickie interview initially would be the way to go.

[Streetwalker7]

Everyone is going to have a different opinion on your questions so to a large extent they are pretty useless. Nevertheless, I will give mine.

This is regarding Bangkok though I would say in general it is for Pattaya as well. When you talk about "Are there as many pretty ladies available as a few years ago", you have to differentiate between types of venues. I know nothing about massage parlors or high end Gentlemen's Clubs. The first I don't enjoy, the second I can't afford. So I basically refer to freelancers and go-go girls...Exact same thing I'm seeing. Especially the Pattaya part.

This guy just puts it in a nicer way. I'm more in your face. It may take me months or years before I'm comfortable barfining a hot agogo girl.

My gentlemens answer to his questions about long term with pretty girl at 2500. No can do!

You know if girls are pressured to return bar quickly-that might explain why my sweet girl is a bit hesitant to go beyond Nana area. I thought girl were free to do whaever they wanted to do once they got barfined.

[The Pro]

Thailand, like in many parts of Asia, is undergoing an economic boom thanks to cheap money.

This is all down to Quantative Easing in the US and Europe, quite simply the money printed in the US / EU is pumped directly into Asia to get high percentage returns, which has left the US / EU with an ongoing credit crunch as all the money printed flies into Asia.

Its why Asian currencies have got very strong. But of course its ony a bubble and the bubble will burst and when the money leaves and goes back to the US / EU then Asia will collapse again. 1997 saw the Asian collapse. 2007 the US / EU collapse and another 10 years to 2017 will see another Asian collapse.

However, in the meantime Thailand has 100% employment, meaning anyone can find a job and in this economic climate there is little need for girls to go freelancing. So for the next couple of years there will be a shortage of new blood into the freelancer market but the moment Asia starts on its collapse and businesses start to collapse and jobs are lost then a whole load of new meat will come into the freelancing market.

So its not going to be a good few years for mongering but then it will be like Christmas all over again. The smart money is already starting to pull out and its why you see the baht now starting to fall, along with other Asian currencies. It will not be an overnight thing, it will take a couple of years, but the whole Asian economic boom (thanks to US / EU money printing) will explode and leave a trail of destruction in a couple of years, a situation which will be most beneficial to mongers.


This will be argued to the end of time, but imo the world of freelancers is a shadow of a shadow of what it was 10 years ago and just a shadow of what it was 3 years ago. I wish I knew why but the freelancer scene has aged considerably on average, many of the old ones are still around and very few younger girls are entering into this market...

[Duniawala]

. The earliest place I have found for visits is Annies at 10:00, but that to seems a little late for me as I will want to get right down to business on arrival. Preferably I would like one or a couple of ladies waiting for me in the hotelroom when I arrive. Preferably somewhat "high end" girls (I. E. Young and slim).

Both advice on outcall services and places to visit between 8-10 am would be of great help!

Is it possible to have sex in Bangkok at such an early hour?Call Sabai Sabai Massage parlor (open 24 hrs) Google and get their web site. They will send a girl over to your room or you can go there and you can negotiate with her directly. Don't expect much in the looks department but you can get your rocks off.

[JayHighFive]

Does anyone have a map or could point me in the right direction for a map of Bangkok? I did a search and nothing came up. Thanks a lot

[Exec Talent]

Does anyone have a map or could point me in the right direction for a map of Bangkok? I did a search and nothing came up. Thanks a lotYou really didn't look very hard.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Bangkok

[Bunky]

Can some one tell me the name of the better money changer around Soi 11.Http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

[Bunky]

Spend time in Bangkok or head straight to Pattaya? What of a trip would you recommend to be allocated to visiting BKK?To me, it comes down to what I prefer to do when I am *not* chasing girls.

Pattaya is a beach resort, where virtually everybody is on a holiday. (Or lucky enough to live there.) This creates a laid back ambiance that I find soothing. I can sit by the shore and contemplate life, with abundant food and beverage close at hand. I can duck into a tiny bar and have a drink at noon while watching sports on the television. I can join my mates for a meal or watch the human condition on full display on Walking Street every night. The place just lowers my blood pressure.

Bangkok is a big city that is a center commerce and government. The urban vibe is intense, but it's a great place to shop, to sightsee and to soak up some culture in a place where the punter scene is a tiny island in the overall metropolitan area.

My preferred itinerary involves landing at BKK and heading straight for Pattaya, for about 80 percent of my stay. If I arrange my flights with care, I can clear immigration in the morning and be settled in my lodging a few hours later, which gives me time for a combat nap before going out on the town that evening. I'm fighting a 12-hour time difference and this helps me minimize jet lag.

Eventually Pattaya starts to feel a little small, which is the perfect time to head back to Bangkok for the last 20 percent of my trip. The girls are different and the scene is different and that prevents boredom from setting in. I'm am also much closer to the airport than I would be in Pattaya. I'm not wild about starting a 24-hour airline trip with a long cab ride up from Pattaya.

Of course, as they say on the Interwebs, your mileage may vary. Maybe you are a foodie who is dying to sample Bangkok's amazing cuisine and not so interested in the one hundred different versions of English breakfast on offer in Pattaya. Perhaps you're a clothes horse and you need to make multiple trips to your tailor to ensure everything fits just so. Or it could be you've looking to get some world class medical treatment at rock bottom prices. In which case ignore my advice and spend most of your time in Bangkok.

Bunky

[NeverGetsOld]

ThePro liked your economic breakdown and finding your posts very informative. This one I agree with and get a kick out of. If you take a dark skinned girl out you will get dirty looks but they perform sexually 1000 times better. They are up for everything and would take a dick for 20 hours straight.


I think this needs to be tied down.

Most men with a brain will go for a girl who gives them great sex.

I mean, in Thailand what is the point of having a nice looking girl on your arm if she is lousy or just plain normal in bed...

[JayHighFive]

LOL, I am sorry Exec Talent I didn't ask the question correctly. I am asking for a map that lists some of the establishments with working girls and things related to why we travel there. I have seen these kind of maps in several other countries but have not here and was wounding if one exists.


You really didn't look very hard.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Bangkok

[Syzygies]

LOL, I am sorry Exec Talent I didn't ask the question correctly. I am asking for a map that lists some of the establishments with working girls and things related to why we travel there. I have seen these kind of maps in several other countries but have not here and was wounding if one exists.Https://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msid=211157051689439137713.00044836624e9b986acc9&msa=0

There you go.

[Zauberfee]

Https://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msid=211157051689439137713.00044836624e9b986acc9&msa=0

There you go.And here's the one for the soapies: http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.774483,100.575371&spn=0.059104,0.066175&z=14

(from former member Mick Licker)

[NicFrenchy]

And here's the one for the soapies:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.774483,100.575371&spn=0.059104,0.066175&z=14

(from former member Mick Licker) Ahahahaha the irony

[PinkPearl]

I'm still puzzled by guys claims of top Rainbow quality girls are to be had walking the street. You want to opine MR Goat. Theres quita a few ugly Rainbow girls that belong on the street.

I just don't see the avg and above girls doing street work for 1000 baht. What the f. K am I missing?You need to get out more, Harold. Then you would see them & could ask them yourself.

For various reasons there are very sexy ladies who don't want to work under a gogo pimp, er manager, or the many rules involved.

Moreover, some may have employment or other obligations at night that exclude the possibility of evening gogo work.

I wonder if R4 hires any hot deaf girls like you see working the NCP. Got to love that, a girl who can't spoil the mood with a constant blabbermouth. I wonder if they hire stunners who have minor flaws like baby belly or some scars from a motor bike accident.

Some gorgeous school, university or factory girls just want to hook part time or occasionally, so may not be feel it's worth it to go through all the hassles of joining a gogo, if a gogo even hires such types.

Maybe they'd rather work the street subtily than make a public spectacle of themselves, in their underwear, or semi or fully nude, with dozens of men gawking at & eye fucking them, on the dance stage. IOW maybe they're shy or are concerned about that all important Thai concept of "saving face".

I saw out working on soi 4 an ex Rainbow 4 lady the other day. Still hot enough to be top 3 there. And probably still with the same service & attitude that most guys find with their gogo experiences. So why isn't she still working there?

I hit the street recently & the first working girl I saw was prettier than any of about 15 dancers I saw later at R2 around 930 to 10 pm on a Friday night.

You don't see average or above average girls working the street for 1000B? How could you when you're never out there. Where would you like them to work if they are not the type preferred by the mostly Asian customers of places like R2, or the gogos have 2 girls for every customer. If there's a market for attractive 1000B ST girls who can get way more customers that way than in a gogo, what do you think is going to happen? It's just the simple law of supply and demand, not rocket science, Harold.

[Streetwalker7]

We have 2 differing views on the state of agogos. In one corner DRronins very accurate description of what goes on there in the other corner a guy full of buffalo excrement.

They both can't be right. One claims short short times the other says 2 hour short times can be had- Who is a newbie to believe?

Mr Ronin can you go over the 20 questions your friend uses to assess his girls. I'm alway looking for humour! Just no way to judge chemistry till you get them naked in the room.

This only applies to Rainbow as they have a massive cllient base. First they really should raise their drink prices to 200 baht. Where else are we going to go? Only real competitor is Baccara. Tourist would pay. Locals may not but are locals a significant part of their income-ALL who live here have bad things to say about Rainbow 4. I agree wholeheartdly but I don't barfine much, so I still enjoy what they offer, just an inexpensive place to hang out.

To combat girls being barfined too much during primetime or anytime barfines should be raised to 900 baht. 600 after 1am, whatevere. The hot girls will still get barfined so they will still rake in the coin. I would pay 900 barfine on the times I do choose to barfine. Come on $9 isn't going to stop Mr Nishikawa from barfining a hot girl.

The losers in all of this would be the multitude of cold girls, the lower 60 percentile so to say. But really who cares, where else they going to go, the streets?

The bar could also lower the barfine for the uglies down to 300 baht. Might get the bar a few more barfines a night. I doubt it though as guys don't go to Rainbow for ugly girl. If guys want ugly girl they need to hit the pavement. No need to pay for the "BRAND name ugly girl generic ugly girl much cheaper".

To the good DR. 600 baht for pretty gems in Pattaya is all I need to know about Pattaya. Also long time 1500 baht. Then you see photos of actual girls on the forum specializing in Pattaya, Sir Ls girls among that bunch would certianly qualify as 10s.

Did my R4 favorite raise the price on me? Did she tell you this? DrRonins claim the girls were being pressured to be back at the bar and not take their time on short times does ring a bell. When I asked why I was given a bad time slot she said she had to be back at the bar. I thought she meant she had a customer lined up- but on 2nd thought that didn't make sense as would she have a customer lined up at 10:30 for the whole 90 days I'm here. I just need to barfine her once in my given time slot to see whats up-which I will do.

If their was ever an aggogo girl I would barfine a 100 times-she would be the one.

I too am not a follower of discos. Tony H goes there a lot. I just don't recall Nana Liquids being mentioned a s a place to go for head turners. I'm thinking Nana L is similiar to the disco that was operated in the Nana hotel. I once went in there looking for the hot chicks that were supposed to be there after hours. All I saw was old ugly dark skin skinny girls. Just awful! Of course the prices being posted on the internet was quite reasonable.

Doc you are a businessman- follow the money! Answers a lot. It may not tell you everything you need to know but its a start. Come on now. 1000 baht for hot streetwalkers?

[DRRonin]

You know if girls are pressured to return bar quickly-that might explain why my sweet girl is a bit hesitant to go beyond Nana area. I thought girl were free to do whaever they wanted to do once they got barfined.In some go-go bars the girls still have that option but I have heard many stories from guys about the girls telling them that they are expected back and a couple of times about mamasans calling the girl and asking her where she is. I think that Pattaya is actually leading the way on this but Bangkok is following. The financial model of go-go's is changing. It's all about the money now. This along with the increasing presence of Coyote girls in Pattaya and in Soi Cowboy and the increasing amount of money that girls can make just working in the bar (salary+tips+drink fees) makes you wonder how far we are from go-gos being like the ones in the States where tourists come to look and buy drinks and not much else.

[Streetwalker7]

To my friend the DOC.

You can't be serious in thinking I'm giving anything other than MY opionion.

Anyway, I'm sure among your staff certain patterns develop over who gets and doesn't get cocks too suck. Too keep it simple .isn't there nurese who do get dicks to suck and those wouldn't know what to do with one if one was offered to them.

Therein lies a rating system. The market has rated your girls. Voting with money is the best rater of all! I bet a ton that the prettier ones get most of the action. And of these the girls who are fun will probably get a lot of repeats.

So does your establishment have girls who get a higher proportion of the action of dicks to service or is business spread around evenly?

Silly ex but here goes. Take 2 rock stars. Richie Sambora of Bon Jovi and Ted Nugent. Who is better looking? In this extreme ex I bt 10 out of 10 would choose Sambora.

PS I love Nugent not for his music but his beliefs in America. It s just that he doesn't have a good face.

[Streetwalker7]

In some go-go bars the girls still have that option but I have heard many stories from guys about the girls telling them that they are expected back and a couple of times about mamasans calling the girl and asking her where she is. I think that Pattaya is actually leading the way on this but Bangkok is following. The financial model of go-go's is changing. It's all about the money now. This along with the increasing presence of Coyote girls in Pattaya and in Soi Cowboy and the increasing amount of money that girls can make just working in the bar (salary+tips+drink fees) makes you wonder how far we are from go-gos being like the ones in the States where tourists come to look and buy drinks and not much else.I've said many a times past 11 the bars do start emptying out. Last night perfect example at Rainbow 4. I went in at 10 very full. Lineup ok. I guess. Closer to 11 many seats available and the usual donkeys on stage.

I really should check out Bacc again to see if my experience last week was an anomaly or a normal thing. But my affection for Rainbow runs deep. Don't care how many head turners Baccara have their ambiance just sucks!

[Streetwalker7]

You need to get out more, Harold. Then you would see them & could ask them yourself.

For various reasons there are very sexy ladies who don't want to work under a gogo pimp, er manager, or the many rules involved.

Moreover, some may have employment or other obligations at night that exclude the possibility of evening gogo work...One good quality about you is you stick to your guns! Not like the other fellow who hems and haws.

One reason stunners don't work agogo I think is because of this eye fucking as you say. I'd hate to be on the end of that. Who needs it if you are a stunner. Just sit in a chair and get picked or just have high governments officials get a booking.

Did you see my post about the kind of customers streetwalkers get. The bottom of the barrel customers for the bottom of the barrel type working girls. Any explanation of this.

Baby belly is a MAJOR FLAW- My favorite has a roomate hooker. I asked her why she doesn't work Rainbow together with her. She say she have baby. So where does this roommate work-good old SHARKS- I'm not making this up! Both girls know that a belly scarred girl has no chance at Rainbow 4.

What major impediment are there for a hot girl not working Rainbow- she can come and go as she please.she just won't get salary. If she is an earner she would be welcome.

To the crux of this post as you many times do you undermine youself. Your streetwalkers girls are not the kind the asians like. I couldn't agree more. Streetwalkers tend to be dark and at best avg face, who knows what major body flaws they have. Not characteristics of a top Rainbow girl.

Girls know what they are worth. Stop making excuses for girls who are just not appealing to large segments of the population.

[Dr BJ]

Doc you are a businessman- follow the money! Answers a lot. It may not tell you everything you need to know but its a start. Come on now. 1000 baht for hot streetwalkers?Sorry perhaps it is just me but I really cannot figure out what you are trying to say."Follow the money"? Anyway this topic began asking about the BKK scene in general and then moved on to go-go bars. I don't run a go-go bar and have no desire to change that.

Regards,

BJ

[Streetwalker7]

OK. I've been doing some research on Pattaya girls. I guess Babydolls is a big deal there. Farang bald headed manager named Phil so kindly post photos of his staff.

The girls look like what I expected them to look like. Dark and avg. To dark and below avg. One girl is quite ok look. Prices I see seem fair. 1000-1500 short time.

[Pointy Stick]

To me, it comes down to what I prefer to do when I am *not* chasing girls.

Pattaya is a beach resort, where virtually everybody is on a holiday. (Or lucky enough to live there.) This creates a laid back ambiance that I find soothing. I can sit by the shore and contemplate life, with abundant food and beverage close at hand. I can duck into a tiny bar and have a drink at noon while watching sports on the television. I can join my mates for a meal or watch the human condition on full display on Walking Street every night. The place just lowers my blood pressure..I don't fuck 24/7 and given I'm not an alcoholic (yet) I have to have something to do to fill out my waking hours. I'm in Pattaya now but only for a week and after that will head into BKK. If its your first time then don't confine yourself to one or the other, mix it up and try both. It's only 2 hours between them on the bus so if yopu hate one then the others within reach.

I do feel bored after about a week in Patts and need get my hit of BKK. Apart from drinking and whoring there is not that much to do in Pattaya so I need to move on. I sometimes need to get out of Thailand after a while so I'm starting to hit up Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam a little more.

[JayHighFive]

Thanks a lot guys.


And here's the one for the soapies:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.774483,100.575371&spn=0.059104,0.066175&z=14

(from former member Mick Licker)

[JayHighFive]

Do any of you know Levels Club on Soi 11? http://www.levelsclub.com/ Is this a club for working or regular girls?

[Goatscrot]

To me, it comes down to what I prefer to do when I am *not* chasing girls.

Pattaya is a beach resort, where virtually everybody is on a holiday. (Or lucky enough to live there.) This creates a laid back ambiance that I find soothing. I can sit by the shore and contemplate life, with abundant food and beverage close at hand. I can duck into a tiny bar and have a drink at noon while watching sports on the television. I can join my mates for a meal or watch the human condition on full display on Walking Street every night. The place just lowers my blood pressure.

Bangkok is a big city that is a center commerce and government. The urban vibe is intense, but it's a great place to shop, to sightsee and to soak up some culture in a place where the punter scene is a tiny island in the overall metropolitan area.

My preferred itinerary involves landing at BKK and heading straight for Pattaya, for about 80 percent of my stay. If I arrange my flights with care, I can clear immigration in the morning and be settled in my lodging a few hours later, which gives me time for a combat nap before going out on the town that evening. I'm fighting a 12-hour time difference and this helps me minimize jet lag.

Eventually Pattaya starts to feel a little small, which is the perfect time to head back to Bangkok for the last 20 percent of my trip. The girls are different and the scene is different and that prevents boredom from setting in. I'm am also much closer to the airport than I would be in Pattaya. I'm not wild about starting a 24-hour airline trip with a long cab ride up from Pattaya.

Of course, as they say on the Interwebs, your mileage may vary. Maybe you are a foodie who is dying to sample Bangkok's amazing cuisine and not so interested in the one hundred different versions of English breakfast on offer in Pattaya. Perhaps you're a clothes horse and you need to make multiple trips to your tailor to ensure everything fits just so. Or it could be you've looking to get some world class medical treatment at rock bottom prices. In which case ignore my advice and spend most of your time in Bangkok.

BunkyCorrect in so many ways.

I spent lots of time in Pattaya my first six or seven years living in Thailand (99-06). Always a BKK resident, but Pattaya was great for one weekend a month. After three nights, I was ready to get back to BKK. Now, meh! I can't really stand the place. I find it very depressing. It is like the current Sukhumvit scene spread out over an entire city.

Want to see the dregs on holiday? Head to Pattaya. The worst the EU, the US, the former USSR, India, China, and the Middle East have to offer. And it is crowded to boot. 10 years ago you could shoot a cannon down just about any soi during low season and not hit anyone. Now, packed year around. Had the misfortune of needing to attend a business meeting there about 6 weeks ago. Had not been there in over two years. I was appalled. One night, meeting, back to BKK. Not enough money in the world to get me to live there.

Of course if all you are interested in is sex, then Pattaya is still a good place I guess, but for me seeing the least common denominator of humanity really kills the fun, no matter how "great" the girls are, and truth be told I did not see many "great" girls.

If you are interested in girls, but want good food, a nice urban environment, good coffee shops, etc, spend your time in BKK. The eye candy in BKK blows Pattaya away.

[Member #4387]

Do any of you know Levels Club on Soi 11?

http://www.levelsclub.com/

Is this a club for working or regular girls?Yes I have been there a few times and first time last autumn I believe. Very nice crowd of people. A mixed girl crowd (freelance and regular). I guess this club runs in the same segment as Bed&Supper, Q-Bar and BASH (to mention some other clubs in Soi 11 as well). Could ofcourse also mentioned Climax in the same gasp for air but that I consider as a freelanceplace only. Others may argue.

Between 5-1000bht covercharge weekends. But I have had good times at Levels as well. 1 btl of Absolute runs around 3000BHT plus extras ofcourse.

[Bunky]

If all you are interested in is sex, then Pattaya is still a good place I guess, but for me seeing the least common denominator of humanity really kills the fun, no matter how "great" the girls are, and truth be told I did not see many "great" girls. If you are interested in girls, but want good food, a nice urban environment, good coffee shops, etc, spend your time in BKK.Point taken in respect of Pattaya's seedy side. The beach is nothing special. There are lager louts in abundance, stumbling down the sidewalks clutching a giant bottle of Beer Chang, their lobster-colored flab and tribal tats on full display in a wife-beater T-shirt bearing some hackneyed aphorism or advertising. The lower rungs of the commercial sex scene are all over town and seeing those girls before breakfast is enough to put a guy off his feed. And then there are the "civilian" tourists, who arrive in their gigantic buses and toddle around Walking Street gawking at the punters like they are animals in a zoo. If you don't care for Russians or Indians or left-handed Lithuanians it's easy to cast a gimlet eye toward the riffraff and conclude the city has gone to the dogs.

But I still love the place in limited doses. With a little effort you can get off the beaten path and find a punter scene largely devoid of gawkers and civilians. On any given night there are at least a few hotties in the go go clubs on Soi LK Metro. There are diamonds in the rough in the Soi Six bars and on the Dark Side. Are the Pattaya girls up to Bangkok standards? Who can say? But when the sun sets all I need is one sweet young thing that pushes my buttons. Some nights the search is protracted, but to me looking is part of the fun. Maybe a guy who lived in Bangkok would prefer a less-involved evolution, like an after-work stop at one of the nice soapies.

When I'm not on the prowl it's just as easy to take the road less traveled. From central Pattaya you can walk east and in ten minutes find yourself in a part of town that's virtually unknown to visitors. It's far from sophisticated, but that's OK with me. I love eating at the hole-in-the-wall places and watching the locals go about their daily routine. It's not world class cuisine like you get Bangkok's upscale eateries. But it's great value for money and they don't care I'm wearing shorts or dining alone. Ditto for the hawker stalls inside the night market on Soi Buakaow. No Michelin stars for the old ladies who do the cooking, but chowing down at a communal picnic table under a bare bulb with the working girls is so different to my life in the world I find it a refreshing change of pace.

Perhaps Mr. Scot's perspective is informed by the fact that he lives in Bangkok, whereas I (very) sporadically do the Two Week Millionaire holiday. As the Bard reminds us: "If all the year were playing holidays, to sport would be as tedious as to work." If I lived full time in Thailand, I suspect Pattaya would get old fast and I too would probably gravitate toward the "nice urban environment" in Bangkok. But for the occasional holiday, I still have a soft spot for Pattaya.

Bunky

[Streetwalker7]

Another ringing endorsement for Pattaya girls- from Goatscrot. Not. I swear my feeling is girls who can't make it in BKK go to Pattaya to give it a whirl. I don't see any evidence to the contrary.

Hint whenever someone says GEMS can be found- it means 600 baht girls a plenty. Don't waste your time waiting for the gem.

Went to R4 and Baccara. Please disregard my proposed changes to Rainbow 4. Maybe good for Golden week when they are packed or weekends during high season. Hard to tell but looked like it was half full for the hour I was there. Talent level not too good.

Baccara faces are a cut above Rainbow 4 by a million miles. Very clean cut and pretty faces. But is it me or do they seem aloof- very few smiles. Rainbow 4 girls win on personality- hands down. They seem to be having a good time just being there.

Pink pearls hot uni girls, etc have a venue to work part time with no boss- THERMae.

Sitting in R 4 had me contemplating my future with the girl. I think this may be the best explanation I've come up with so far. One of her co-workers came up with a plan to maximize her earnings. Put the guy who is throwing money at you hand over fist in a slow period. Everybodys happy. Except me! The girl is not a game player-not once has she tried shenanigans to milk me of more money. Just normal asking for tips, etc. Very straightforward stuff.

I doubt mommasan would advise her to change m. O. With a guy as lucrative as me. Just keep doing what you've been doing babe.

That getting back to bar quickly just doesn't make sense either. One Nana hotel I've stayed at recently was a 20 minute travel time for her. 10 minute walk both ways. My Asok hotel would be 25 minutes tops.

Don't know if I can pull it off but for a while I'm going to really cut back on tipping her in the bar. Unlesss I get a major urge to feel a nipple for old times sake.

And YES it is possible she doesn't want me playing with her asshole anymore.

[DRRonin]

I'm not making this up! Both girls know that a belly scarred girl has no chance at Rainbow 4.Really? Not to be disagreeable but then what is this forum for! I have no idea where you get the idea that RB4 has all lovely creatures great and small, but I have seen many many girls there over the years who have had kids and have so many rings of fat around their stomach that Tolkien would have trouble keeping count. RB4 has a lot of girls, usually three shifts on 2 different stages and some of them are quite nice, some are ok and a bunch reached their expiration date a few years back. Actually went to RB2 tonight for the first time in ages and though it had many fewer girls than its cousin, the average quality was much higher, but they tended to be small girls which may not be to be to everyone's taste and the clientele was about 99% Japanese. So the girls look accordingly.

Re: the question of Pattaya vs Bangkok; I can take 3 days in Pattaya just for the fresher air and being able to walk on Beach Road without getting run over, but by the 5th day I want to shoot myself. Which may explain the high number of suicides in Pattaya. Bangkok is a real vibrant city full of life, Pattaya is where old men go to die because there is nothing else to do.

[TravelerD]

I am visiting Koh Phangan for a week. Curious to know what all places of adult action are present in Koh Phangan except for the parties.

Spa / Massage with happy endings or FS.

Any pointers would be highly appreciated.

[Sir Lancelot]

If their was ever an aggogo girl I would barfine a 100 times-she would be the one.Or bar-fine her once, get her number and save yourself 1000baht (at least) on the 99 subsequent meetings.

This would save you 99, 000 baht which by my calculations would get you ten of your 10/10 girls!

[JayHighFive]

I notice there are a lot of girls on Facebook from Bangkok that say they are models. Anyone came across this? Is this their way to be a working girl without coming out and saying it?

[Sunlover2]

Re: the question of Pattaya vs Bangkok; I can take 3 days in Pattaya just for the fresher air and being able to walk on Beach Road without getting run over, but by the 5th day I want to shoot myself.Agreed that variety is the spice of life. They are different scenes with different vibes. When I am in Thailand I like to spend time in both places. The transfer can be a bit of a PITA but it does not take too long.

Pattaya during the week (Sun-Wed) and Bangkok on weekends (Thu-Sat) are my preferences. Normally I try to spend the first few days of the trip in Bangkok, go down to Pattaya for a time, and then back to Bangkok until departure. That said; my next trip in November is 14 nights so I will probably just head directly to Pattaya for a week, and then spend 7 nights in Bangkok.

SunLover

[Nclpimp]

I've been there on A Friday and wasn't charged a cover. Maybe I was there too early around midnight. Stayed inside for a while then hung out outside. The terrace had a much cooler breeze. At around 3 am they opened the back area. Lots if neon lights looked more like a rave. I saw very attractive girls but I was already in hand with a 9. I would go back. Whiskey drinks were 250 bhat.


Yes I have been there a few times and first time last autumn I believe. Very nice crowd of people. A mixed girl crowd (freelance and regular). I guess this club runs in the same segment as Bed&Supper, Q-Bar and BASH (to mention some other clubs in Soi 11 as well). Could ofcourse also mentioned Climax in the same gasp for air but that I consider as a freelanceplace only. Others may argue.

Between 5-1000bht covercharge weekends. But I have had good times at Levels as well. 1 btl of Absolute runs around 3000BHT plus extras ofcourse.

[PinkPearl]

One reason stunners don't work agogo I think is because of this eye fucking as you say. I'd hate to be on the end of that. Who needs it if you are a stunner. Just sit in a chair and get picked or just have high governments officials get a booking.For the same reason a shy hot girl may prefer discreetly working the street over sitting in a MP fishbowl in her underwear.


Did you see my post about the kind of customers streetwalkers get. The bottom of the barrel customers for the bottom of the barrel type working girls. Any explanation of this.They get customers from dozens of nations around the world, you name it. Even a millionaire may prefer the street scene over a gogo & to pay three times less for the same quality of girl. I doubt he became so rich by flushing dollars down the toilet. Maybe he also finds that hot street girls have less restrictions, better attitudes & more willingness to do LT.


To the crux of this post as you many times do you undermine youself. Your streetwalkers girls are not the kind the asians like. I couldn't agree more. Streetwalkers tend to be dark and at best avg face, who knows what major body flaws they have. Not characteristics of a top Rainbow girl.I can't recall seeing any white skinned girls at the Rainbow bars, even off white let alone white as in the sex 141 Hong Kong site. Incidentally, in case you didn't know it, many farangs prefer the tanned TG skin that the vast majority of TGs have, working girls or not, whether in gogos or on the street. They have & can get white in abundance & easily in their home countries in Europe & North America, etc. Or watching Thai hi-so television commercials. There are not many white skinned TGs available to farangs, though you can find a few FSR P4Ps or Japanese tourists.

I'm not interested in ugly to average street or gogo girls. There are plenty of hot ones out there. In fact I'm surprised that they are so easy to pick up, as has been the case since 07. Are guys intimidated by them? Many times I'm out there with no male competition whatsoever & have my choice of 2 dozen ladies! So 24 ladies to each guy, eh? Easy to approach, talk to, & they often warmly greet you, unlike my experiences in R2 & R4.

In R4 I've seen only one girl with a very beautiful face, which was a 9. 5, could have been a 10, but not white. Seen from a distance, since in the gogos you'ld need binoculars to get a close up like you can just walking up to a street girl, & easily viewing her from behind too, if you like. She was quite skinny with no boobs, body about a 7 perhaps, couldn't see her ass. So overall maybe an 8, in my books. Though, in a certain mood, I might take her just for the face, & what it could do for me, as in BBBJ, BLS, DFK, etc, even if her body was a 4. If I'm in a mood for a leg fetish, I might take a girl whose face is a 5 & legs are a 9. There's a good chance she'll make up in attitude & service what she lacks in appearance, whereas a stunner 9. 5 girl is probably going to disappoint you in everything but her looks. Some girls' face may be a 6 looking at you, but while giving the most amazing BBBJ with their eyes closed they are a 9, or an 8 from the side view.

To some guys baby belly is a major flaw, so they prefer the gogos. To me it is the last body area I'm interested in & would count it as way less than half a point in grading a girl. I wouldn't pay 3 times as much to avoid it. Therefore the street offers many bargains. Slim cute SYTs with DDs & a baby belly for 1000 baht ST. BTW, for big boobs lovers, I've been coming across quite a few natural DD TGs out there lately.


Girls know what they are worth. Stop making excuses for girls who are just not appealing to large segments of the population.In case you haven't realized it yet, Harold, the subject isn't the hags of the street or the uglies of the gogos. It's not even the average lookers, which is how you rated Sir Lancelot's girls. BTW I think you lost a lot of credibility with that 5. 5 rating, if there was any left to lose.

[Streetwalker7]

Really? Not to be disagreeable but then what is this forum for! I have no idea where you get the idea that RB4 has all lovely creatures great and small, but I have seen many many girls there over the years who have had kids and have so many rings of fat around their stomach that Tolkien would have trouble keeping count. RB4 has a lot of girls, usually three shifts on 2 different stages and some of them are quite nice, some are ok and a bunch reached their expiration date a few years back. Actually went to RB2 tonight for the first time in ages and though it had many fewer girls than its cousin, the average quality was much higher, but they tended to be small girls which may not be to be to everyone's taste and the clientele was about 99% Japanese. So the girls look accordingly.Be disagreeable all you want. Doesn't bother me. I like what you write. But I think you misunderstood me.

I've seen all the types of girls you've seen at Rainbow 4 over the years. Too. But have you seen the cabooses get barfined on a regular basis?

I haven't! When I say a girl has no chance working R4 I mean she won't make much money.

This I don't know for fact- but I think the reason for the huge tuurnover is most girls just find the competition too tough!

At the moment face quality rating for Rainbow 4 as a group-BAD!

Last night there were 3 groups of girls. Hardly a full staff. You could drive a MACK truck between girls the spacing was so big.

Easy to spot the mutts and cabooses just hang around past 10:30 you will see the same ones on stage night after night.

I don't think Rainbow 4 has all lovely creatures. I've said before a few hot ones, many Sir lancelot types and the cabooses.

RAinbow 2 I see pretty much same as you. Face wise Rainbow 2 girls rate very favorably with Rainbow 4. Argument can be made even better as you say. One thing I noticed on this trip is at times R 2 is quite full. I wonder if it is because the ippuns are fleeing Rainbow 4. I said on my last trip faarangs are becoming an ever increasing group in RAInbow 4.

Barfined a R2 girl my last trip. I asked why she charge 2000 while Girl at Rainow 4 charge 2500. The other day she told me to barfine her at 2500. Most girls happy with 2000 at R2.

Speculating even more could it be the talent level at R4 is going south because of the increased number of farangs. Farangs just don't go for the same type of girls as asians. They like them darker and bad face is ok. Whats a decent face ippun type girl to do? Go elsewhere to work?

Looking at the R4 girls who go topless I'd say 90% are the types favored by farang. Highly unattractive-so much so even the farang pass on a lot of them.

One thing I've learned is one bar cannot cater to all customers. You have to find your niche. Either you go predominately ippun or other. RAIN 2, 4 1 ippun bars. Rainbow 4 is questinable at the moment. Examples of other are every other bar in BKK. Specific ex. Angelwith, long gun or rawhide, tilac, the list goes on and on and on and on!

Ippuns joiunts.light skin pretty girls. Other joiunts- dark skin- fac quality don't matter!

[Tony Hoeprano]

Yes I have been there a few times and first time last autumn I believe. Very nice crowd of people. A mixed girl crowd (freelance and regular). I guess this club runs in the same segment as Bed&Supper, Q-Bar and BASH (to mention some other clubs in Soi 11 as well). Could ofcourse also mentioned Climax in the same gasp for air but that I consider as a freelanceplace only. Others may argue.

Between 5-1000bht covercharge weekends. But I have had good times at Levels as well. 1 btl of Absolute runs around 3000BHT plus extras ofcourse.I heard Bed Supperclub closed down. Not sure if this is true, I'm not in BKK ATM. When its all said and done, the Soi 11 along with Insanity its six half dozen or the other when it comes to talent. IMO

[Streetwalker7]

I can't recall seeing any white skinned girls at the Rainbow bars, even off white let alone white as in the sex 141 Hong Kong site. Incidentally, in case you didn't know it, many farangs prefer the tanned TG skin that the vast majority of TGs have, working girls or not, whether in gogos or on the street. They have & can get white in abundance & easily in their home countries in Europe & North America, etc. Or watching Thai hi-so television commercials. There are not many white skinned TGs available to farangs, though you can find a few FSR P4Ps or Japanese tourists...I'll never get you to see that you are wrong on so many levels. I would like to ask the other DR- ronin that is to go over you points with commentary.

Farangs are ruining R4 with their love for dark meat! Just an opinion- no need to get your panties all tied up in knots guys. I might be wrong but its a trend I've been seeing.

If you want to see agogo girls up close. Go sit on the stage seats. They don't charge extra. Seats always available.

Why am I the only one to rate Sirs girls. I think its beacause you all agree with my rating. An opinion I'd like is DRronins rating. I see many of the things he sees to a T.

Even easier- just say Sirs girls are hot stuff, average (my rating) or cabooses! Its all in fun!

[Streetwalker7]

When its all said and done, the Soi 11 along with Insanity its six half dozen or the other when it comes to talent. IMOI think this is a good example of gibberish. What? Or as Thai girls say wot?

[Paul Kausch]

I heard Bed Supperclub closed down. Not sure if this is true, I'm not in BKK ATM. When its all said and done, the Soi 11 along with Insanity its six half dozen or the other when it comes to talent. IMOBed will close on 31st August 2013. The land the building rests on is leased by the club owners (they built the building). They were unable to renew the land lease. Much high-rise development is in the works for that vicinity. Property owners are trying to get maximum value out of the dirt they own. Bed's owners are looking for another location. They say they're looking for something suitable for a high-end establishment. They feel the more Plebeian establishments on Soi 11 diminish their club. At least that is what they say.

[NeverGetsOld]

BTW, for big boobs lovers, I've been coming across quite a few natural DD TGs out there lately.What do you mean by TGs? Not transgendered right?

http://pinkdiamondcompanions.com/Pink_Diamond_Companions/Guide/Entries/2011/9/8_Escort_Terminology.html

I am a natural big boob lover and know of a pair in a massage shop on S4 that will let you do the works for 600B but I'm more interested in freelancers. Would you care to share in more detail where you have spotted these hooters?

[RBDave]

What do you mean by TGs? Not transgendered right?

http://pinkdiamondcompanions.com/Pink_Diamond_Companions/Guide/Entries/2011/9/8_Escort_Terminology.html

I am a natural big boob lover and know of a pair in a massage shop on S4 that will let you do the works for 600B but I'm more interested in freelancers. Would you care to share in more detail where you have spotted these hooters?TG = Thai Girl

[DRRonin]

Why am I the only one to rate Sirs girls. I think its beacause you all agree with my rating. An opinion I'd like is DRronins rating. I see many of the things he sees to a T.

Even easier- just say Sirs girls are hot stuff, average (my rating) or cabooses! Its all in fun!The faces were blurred out so I can't really rate his girls. The face to me is the most important factor. They may not always have to be lovely but there has to be something about them whether it is a pair of almond caramel eyes with a faraway look or a mouth that says kiss me or an insouciant playful smile that intrigues me. From what I could see they all looked to be in the 6 neighborhood but a great face could move them up a point or two and a bad face could move down a point or two.

As to your comment in another post regarding the less attractive girls in the go-go bars and their prospects of being bar fined. It is a mystery to me in all honesty. I have always heard that most go-go and beer bars have monthly quotas that the girls have to hit for bar fines and drinks and if they don't reach these quotas they will be fined and eventually fired. And it is not a low number. Yet I continue to see so many of these girls in the go-gos that I have to assume that they are at least getting close to reaching the quotas, but I never see them being bar fined and I rarely see any one buying them drinks. But it must be happening. I knew this guy back in the days when I went to the Dominican Republic and he had a philosophy of finding a girl and I have heard other guys echo this over the years, but he told me that he would go into a disco and look for the ugliest girl in the room and take her back because he knew she would give great service. And believe me I saw him with some toothless hags that made him very happy. Maybe there are lots of guys who feel the same way in Bangkok. Otherwise I just don't get it.

[Streetwalker7]

The faces were blurred out so I can't really rate his girls. The face to me is the most important factor. They may not always have to be lovely but there has to be something about them whether it is a pair of almond caramel eyes with a faraway look or a mouth that says kiss me or an insouciant playful smile that intrigues me. From what I could see they all looked to be in the 6 neighborhood but a great face could move them up a point or two and a bad face could move down a point or two...OMG! Are you Harold444 incognito by any chance. LOL.

The magic number is 9 barfines in Rainbows to get full salary. I'm assuming if you hit 9 youll also hit the other marks. The puzzling thing is to get full salary you have to be there a lot. A few days off for period (mens) , thats about it (could be 3 or 4 days off are allowed).

The number 9 tells me it is hard for the majority to get barfined consistently. Just because you see a lot of hustle and bustle in a bar like Rainbow 4 it doesn't mean many are naking good baht, upon closer look its the same group of girls getting barfined. I'm sure this principle applies to all venues. Whether they have 3 hookers or 500 hookers.

My contention is a few girls make very good money. Many do ok. And a ton just don't!

Pink pearl its your turn to give a rating. Ill even go up half a point as girls in person usually look better than photo. We have 2 six ratings. Anyone want to sully their reputation and rate them as hot?

[Tony Hoeprano]

I think this is a good example of gibberish. What? Or as Thai girls say wot?I meant the nightclubs along lower Sukhumvit pretty much got the same same talent level - excluding Nana Liquid LOL

[BionicMan]

To the crux of this post as you many times do you undermine youself. Your streetwalkers girls are not the kind the asians like. I couldn't agree more.

Girls know what they are worth. Stop making excuses for girls who are just not appealing to large segments of the population.Streetwalkers don't have much in mind which customer range they can achieve. It is a fact the MO of many Asians is not much directed to street action. The majority of these is Japanese and Korean, they go to gogo's, not even much to bars. The local Thais are addressing their hunts to totally different action. What is left? Westerner, Indian, and middle eastern. Westerner are happy to get a "sun tanned" girl, maybe syorised they do not see tan lines when she undresses, the middle eastern, aka Arabs, have other interest and targets, the Indians, with no offence, they go for the cheap and do not bother much on the rest.

So the skin tone is irrelevant, and does not determine the success of the girl in the street.

So what you find in the streets is exactly what the majority of the (street girl) customers are looking for. A win-win situation.

[Corleone123]

Hi Guys,

Just wanted a quick update on a good soapy with alarge number of women with big boobs if possible.

Last year headed to Annies but exp was horrible.

I tried cupidy back in 2008 which was quite good but don't rem much as it was a while back.

I am totally into voluptous women. My best Exp last year was picking up a girl from Cm2.

Any updates if Cm2 is still good. I have heard about Mixx and Spassos, do you guys recommend that and have done a fair amount of reearch this time.

Also what about Nataree, heard thorough some people with good services ut do thy have women with huge tits there?

Young or old doesn't not matter as long as their bodies are fuckable and meaty.

Between Sapsso's Cm2 and Mixx whch one would you guys pick. Only there for 2 days so need to be quick and visit fewer places.

If yu guys Cam Pm me would be great also with some nos etc.

Annies.

Went there last year ad chose no 22. This year she is not there on the website and no 22 has been taken by someone else. She had the biggest tits of the lot so chose her. It was 11 Am so selection was few. Had a long flight and and needed a fuck desperately.

She took me to the room. Very average and Annies is not very clean. They def need an upgrade there.

We undressed and went into the tub. I started feelng her body and fingering her. She started stroking my dick but seemed very mechnical.

The room was quite cold. We went on to the mat where she put the soap lather all over and stared rubbing me down. That was good but the girl could not speak any English only Thai.

Fondled her was tired and wanted to get over with it.

We went on to the bed. I got hold of her face and face fucked her. Its a fantasy I always had.

Was quite horny by then. Stared with doggy, missionary and finally came on her face and body.

She seemed a little annoyed as I guess it was morning and she had a lot of make up on.

Anyways the fuck was ok but attitude of the girl bad and room filthy.

I don't mind spending some extra bucks and hence decided will not visit Annies ever gain.

CM 2.

Went to CM2 the same night. This was my first time there.

Luckly was a Monday, ladies night and not so many guys. Was filled with some Thai Free lancers, Russians very few office girls.

Started flirting with this thai office girl, but she didn't have large enough tits hence was kind of put off. She gave me her no to bang her the next day. The same old story as how she needed company, broke up with her Bf needed some extra money. So stored it as a last resort thing.

Was drinking and about 10-45 a very voluptions Russian walked in. We started talking for about an hour after which she settled for 6000 Baht. Was on the higher side but her tits were amazing!

Height 5-10, fair, Huge boobs and nice curvy figure.

Opened a bottle of champagne in the room. She spoke very well and told me about her self work etc.

After a while we went to bed. Started kissing her from head to toe. She had the softest hands and feet and just cold not resist sucking them.

Lifted her sexy legs, caught her love handles as she was kind of plump, (the way I like it) caught them and started fucking her. She screamed and her moaning just turned me on even more.

I have been with a lot but his was def not fake and she semed to enjoy every minute of it.

After that doggy fuked her hard and she loved it even more.

Was running out of stamina as I had 2 days of flying and work before that. Finally came on her face and made her lick every drop of cum.

Gave her a nice tip for licking my jizz as well!

Normally I don't take numbers as like a different woman every time. It's the hunt that thrills me the most, but only if you get a good exp LOL.

This was last year and hope have a similar exp this year too. Last year did not go through any refs et just asked some cab drivers.

If you guys can help me narrow my search esp with rgards to women with big titsatsopies would be great.

Not fucked a good Thai yet. Also is it possible to pick up single Thai women from malls etc.

Cheers

[Streetwalker7]

I meant the nightclubs along lower Sukhumvit pretty much got the same same talent level - excluding Nana Liquid LOLAre you saying the talent level at Nana L is a cut above the rest?

Head turners and stunneres galore?

I just can't help myself. LOL. All the money I lose playing poker I should spend here. Much more fum. LOL.

[Streetwalker7]

Streetwalkers don't have much in mind which customer range they can achieve. It is a fact the MO of many Asians is not much directed to street action. The majority of these is Japanese and Korean, they go to gogo's, not even much to bars. The local Thais are addressing their hunts to totally different action. What is left? Westerner, Indian, and middle eastern. Westerner are happy to get a "sun tanned" girl, maybe syorised they do not see tan lines when she undresses, the middle eastern, aka Arabs, have other interest and targets, the Indians, with no offence, they go for the cheap and do not bother much on the rest.

So the skin tone is irrelevant, and does not determine the success of the girl in the street.

So what you find in the streets is exactly what the majority of the (street girl) customers are looking for. A win-win situation.Please direct your comments to Pink Pearl-not me. I know exactly what is going down and dirty on the street. I got no problem with street girls.

I do have problem with guys who say they are hott-thats all. Theres a freaking good explanation why a hot street girl cost one third the average agogo girl.

[Streetwalker7]

Maybe The Dr can help me out here. BJ that is.

Maybe a write-up on Hello girls. So many of them. Are they hi-so types who just want a few extra baht here and there? They surely can't be making decent money just saying "Hello sir, welcome". Some Baccara hello girls are quite pretty.

Thaniya Karaoke bars. I just don't see a huge volume of guys frequenting these places. So many girls just sitting and hoping the gays and lesbians touts are able to shout guys their way. LOL. Every now and then I do a double take to ogle a girl. Some very good lookers here.

Meeting quotas at an agogo bar. I wonder if its possible the cabooses get their action near closing? This could be why some girls are willing to do the shuffle for hours on in with litte interest. Maybe the drunkards and cheapos barfine them near closing.

[Streetwalker7]

2 guys eating dinner at Suk Foodland. One Indian, the other Malay. Chit chat for a few minutes, hotel, etc. The topic of course turn to all of our favorite topic: prostitutes! Both don't go with hookers. The indian just talks to them. The other guy doesn't either from what I could tell. Then out of the blue the malay asks the indian do you go with boys. Indian then went on a few minute dissertation of the hazards of thai gay sex (I agree with all his points by the way). Seems the Malay fellow needed the low down on the hot boys of Thailand. The hows, what, whys, where, all the things we want to know- just with girls. LOL.

That might have been the hi-light of my night. Its 9pm. Don't know if the agogos can top that!

Ps- their friendly chit chat went dead after that topic.

[PinkPearl]

Pink pearl its your turn to give a rating. Ill even go up half a point as girls in person usually look better than photo. We have 2 six ratings. Anyone want to sully their reputation and rate them as hot?Sir Lancelot recently posted a set of 10 pics in one post & 2 others after that.

On the set of 10 there were 4 members in the photo thread that said they were attractive. So let's say 4 guys graded them as 7's on average.

I'll grade only the last two pictures, faces only, one blurred, one clear. One an 8 the other a 7, so average 7.5.

[PinkPearl]

What do you mean by TGs? Not transgendered right?

http://pinkdiamondcompanions.com/Pink_Diamond_Companions/Guide/Entries/2011/9/8_Escort_Terminology.html

I am a natural big boob lover and know of a pair in a massage shop on S4 that will let you do the works for 600B but I'm more interested in freelancers. Would you care to share in more detail where you have spotted these hooters?TG in the abbreviations thread is transgender, but TG as I meant it is commonly used in the Thailand section of ISG for Thai girl.

I picked up 6 girls from the Nana Hotel parking lot (NPL) area this weekend. Four had natural DDs. A fifth & very pretty one had nice C cups.

The first DD girl I found about 10 pm in front of the Nana Hotel sign just outside the car park. She was 20 years old & deaf.

The second DD girl I saw at night sitting near the entrance to the hotel. It was her face that attracted me at the first.

The third DD girl was standing on the sidewalk mid afternoon beside the NPL bending over to give me a nice view of her hooters, which were mostly uncovered, without realizing I was there till I said hello. She was cute & wore specs.

Girl #'s 2 & 3 told me they are 28 years old.

The fourth DD girl was standing by a car facing opposite the hotel restaurant windows, midway between the hotel entrance & the sidewalk. The time was around 7 pm.

[PinkPearl]

I do have problem with guys who say they are hott-thats all. Theres a freaking good explanation why a hot street girl cost one third the avegerage agogo girl.To sum up the "explanation" in two words, I'd say "brand name" or "dumb Asians" or "baby belly" concerns.

I haven't seen anyone say street girls are hot or gogo girls are hot. Some are, some are not.

[Sir Lancelot]

Also what about Nataree, heard thorough some people with good services ut do thy have women with huge tits there?Firstly, great report. It's a shame it will be buried within hours because the class clown decides to post five completely irrelevant posts. Nataree is not the place to go for great sex. They have a very young line-up and in lots of cases they are very inexperienced. It's the place to go for young, pretty girls but of course you might find one who is a nympho. I went twice on my recent trip and went with two young girls. One was a starfish, the other a tiger in the bedroom who provided some really memorable sex. I'm surprised at your negative experience at Annie's as it is usually a sure-fire bet for great service. You get two hours, two pops minimum and you'll read lots of good advice about which girls are good on the Annie's thread on this site.


Another ringing endorsement for Pattaya girls- from Goatscrot. Not. I swear my feeling is girls who can't make it in BKK go to Pattaya to give it a whirl. I don't see any evidence to the contrary.Of course you don't, you've never been. You were told by a Bangkok bargirl that Pattaya's girls are ugly (and why would she possibly lie to you?) , you've visited a few websites and now in your mind you are the resident expert!

Incidentally, I have got to ask, why the unhealthy obsession about me? You mention me in almost every one of your posts.

What do you possibly hope to gain by trying to get people to rate the girls I went with? Their faces are blurred! I genuinely don't care if people don't find them attractive, I did and surely that's all that matters (although I should point out that I had to empty my inbox I had so many people complimenting me on my diary and the girls). If you don't, good for you. I find it comforting we go for different girls as from what you've posted, girls seem to be scarred by the experience of meeting you.

Let's cut to the chase. You don't like me because we had a difference of opinion on freelancers of all things. I said I'd seen a pretty one in Nana Parking Lot and you in your infinite wisdom said it was impossible, despite the fact you freely admit you don't look (by the way, I marked her 7/10 in my diary, not 10/10 as you keep posting to anyone who hasn't ignored you yet). When you decided to get personal, I highlighted just how much nonsense you talk, for example I copied and pasted a comment of yours in which you said "Pattaya girls are ugly. I've never been though". That comment alone tells everyone all they need to know about you.

The truth is, your Harold444 account (now deleted) revealed a lot about you for people who can read between the lines. You said that you can't get good lookers at Rainbow 4 for less than 2500ST (despite the fact that you later admitted you only go for 'average looks'). You posted that girls you bar-fine often leave within the hour and that a girl DICTATED to you when she can be bar-fined (!). You also posted that girls never give you their number. You don't like me because not only did our opinions vary on a few different matters, I get the same girls as you (or prettier) for cheaper and for longer and they volunteer their phone number to me for repeat business. Any experienced monger can read your reports and summise that the girls dislike you. They over-charge you, leave early and never give you their number. Not my words, yours. You are simply jealous and it riles you that whereas people complimented me on my recent 52,000 word diary and photos, they just STFU you and ignore you.

[BionicMan]

Ps- their friendly chit chat went dead after that topic.Maybe each one was expecting the other to do some proposition.

[Puttex]

No one here is afraid of the Dengue fever?

I read everywere that there is an outbreak right now in Bangkok and its not a nice thing to catch.

Your experience about it?

Are there lots of mosquitos in the bars at Nana and Cowboy?

Mosquitos in the short time hotels or so?

I am going to Bangkok in 1 week now and are a bit afraid of that shit.

[Streetwalker7]

Sir L gives a very inaccurate description of the SCENE and he is easily excitable. I like that.

He doesn't see that others politely say what I say about some of his claims. I Never been to Nana L.seems to be a full of Pattay types go to hook there.

Nothing to be gained by rating your girls. Some of us just wondering where you see all these 9 and 10s you see quite frequently.

You see a pretty freelancer so I auto hate you. Who cares? Most of us don't live for the exception.

Where you look the most foolish is your claims on long short times. Anyone one with a pea of a brain and has tried barfining pretty agogo girls know they are not interested in long short times.

Please read other opinions. They do pop up. Some guys are satisfied with their choices, but thats not the norm.

Again I don't barfine at agogos. The majority says its just a waste of time and money. If you are finding gems all over the place maybe we need to take lessons from you.

Although when I do barfine I'm usually satisfied-but thats bevause I get to know the ones I choose over a long period of time.

Rainbow 4 last night was equivalent to a Pattaya agogo. Unbelievable horrible talent! A few ok, the rest will be making their way to pattay soon.

A week and a half is enough to conclude Rainb 2 is again competitive with Rainb 4. I remember this past high season I kept thinking where's all the R2 customers. Now I'm thinking where's all the R4 customers.

Pound 4 pound the undisputed champion of pretty girls prancing around on stage is Rainbow 1.

[Streetwalker7]

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[NeverGetsOld]

I get my lazy butt to Nana at midnight to see if I can confirm these big natural titty spottings PinkPearl speaks of.

First, I see my pretty face white skinned Chiang Mai honey sitting at Rajah like she always does. Very tempting for a cheap repeat but last resort with 1000 other girls around. Guys don't get sad if you can not get the 500 like me. 1000 or 700 is still good value for her.

Walking by Zen bar across from the Nana hotel parking lot I meet a employee who I seem to have good chemistry with and has a fabulous rear. Sit on the bar stool outside groping her ass and chatting from midnight to 2am while simultaneously eyeballing the freelancers across the street and did not see any big natural titties during those 2 hours. She must have mentioned 2000 baht. 500 baht bar fine about 10 times in that period, probably referring to short time, but I ain't no rookie now and we eventually agree to meet at Insomnia at 2:30 before close.

Soon as I leave I bump into that Rainbow 4 girl named Ice I spoke of on the street outside. She is on my nuts this time and looking hotter but I don't put up much of a fight when her hot friend takes her away. I will drill this girl one of these nights and can't wait. Not a classic beauty, basically a Tila Tequila. If any less then stunning, skinny, Thai chicks want to transform themselves into Tila Tequila I've got baht for them all day every day.

Ok so I head over to Insanity and sit between two wild girls and chat for 20 minutes. One has a little wayne teardrop tat under her eye I think and the tall one with huge fake tits is showing me naked pics of herself on her phone. My Zen girl not shy and spots me from behind and hugs me from behind between these 2 girls. She earned it and I go away with her and her friend to dance. Her friend is very hot, drunk, and horny looking, getting no attention and wants to leave after 30 minutes. We all get a taxi, drop her off, and take round ass to my place. To all the guys standing around Insanity not talking to a girl, what a waste of a good vagina this was. She was ready to go.

Get to my place and come to find out she is a starfish. Well at least usually she is because she went from starfish to porn star and was a total salvage after I hit it raw from behind. Sleeping as we speak and money was never discussed. Let's hope she doesn't get too crazy when I offer her 1000.

Side note, contact my Vietnamese / Cambodian chick after 2 weeks and she just gets back to me. To my delight she is very receptive and not all about the money. Seems like she is going to be the only hot girl on my team at the moment. Mainly because I've been lazy. She goes to Cambodia for a month in July where I may visit her.

Sketchy pics of booty I had a hell of a lot of fun with attached.

A good night but regarding Dengue fever I have been feeling very sick ever since stinky pussy, druggie streetwalker a few nights ago. 2 pharmacists hooked me up with 4 sets of pills which seem to be helping a lot though. You are right to be very conscious of germs and your health down here. Cheers.

[Streetwalker7]

I'm afraid of Dengue fever. But what you going to do about it? I wonder if it will affect peoples decision on whether to cum here?

Agogos girls begging you to take their phone number after the first meeting.

2 logical explanations.

1. Customer is very charismatic. LOL. Not saying it doesn't happen. Don't know- I'm not there!

2. Girls are desperate for money. I just don't see the top earners begging guys to do them away from bar, for reduced prices to top it all off.

[Arikara]

No one here is afraid of the Dengue fever?

I read everywere that there is an outbreak right now in Bangkok and its not a nice thing to catch.

Your experience about it?

Are there lots of mosquitos in the bars at Nana and Cowboy?

Mosquitos in the short time hotels or so?

I am going to Bangkok in 1 week now and are a bit afraid of that shit.Bring deet and wear long pants and long sleeves if you can. Dengue is always a risk but as long as you cover up when you can ad use lots of deet then you'll be fine. Have fun, I got 2 months before I leave.

[NeverGetsOld]

Now 12:55, put a 1000 in her butt jean pocket when she got dressed. Folded in 3 so it seemed like more LOL. She didn't check. Kissed me and left.

[Wolvenvacht]

No one here is afraid of the Dengue fever?

I read everywere that there is an outbreak right now in Bangkok and its not a nice thing to catch.

Your experience about it?

Are there lots of mosquitos in the bars at Nana and Cowboy?

Mosquitos in the short time hotels or so?

I am going to Bangkok in 1 week now and are a bit afraid of that shit.I have been to Thailand in all seasons (wet and dry seasons) and in many different places and I must say I am always very surprised about the low number of mosquitoes. Initially I used a repellent on my arms and legs, but stopped doing it as it seemed really silly. Perhaps it is different when you go into the jungle (and I do not mean the jungle of Nana or Soi Cowboy).

Laos and Cambodia are quite different: there I always wear long trousers and long sleeved shirts in the evening or I get eaten alive.

Perhaps Thailand and BKK in particular is so polluted that no mosquito can survive. :)

[Phordphan]

No one here is afraid of the Dengue fever?

I read everywere that there is an outbreak right now in Bangkok and its not a nice thing to catch.

Your experience about it?

Are there lots of mosquitos in the bars at Nana and Cowboy?

Mosquitos in the short time hotels or so?

I am going to Bangkok in 1 week now and are a bit afraid of that shit.Dengue is a danger, although I'm not sure how likely it is in BKK. As Mr. W pointed out, the mosquitos in BKK are rather few and far between. I do think it's the pollution and smog.

However, it is a risk outside of BKK. One of my GF's staff members came down with it right after Songkran. He contracted it upcountry when visiting family, and was hospitalized in BKK.

So, if you'll be staying in BKK, don't worry. If you're going to remote parts, long sleeves, long pants and Off are recommended.

[BionicMan]

I have been to Thailand in all seasons (wet and dry seasons) and in many different places and I must say I am always very surprised about the low number of mosquitoes. Initially I used a repellent on my arms and legs, but stopped doing it as it seemed really silly. Perhaps it is different when you go into the jungle (and I do not mean the jungle of Nana or Soi Cowboy).

Laos and Cambodia are quite different: there I always wear long trousers and long sleeved shirts in the evening or I get eaten alive.

Perhaps Thailand and BKK in particular is so polluted that no mosquito can survive. .I agree! And no mosquito will survive the sound level of the go-go bars.

I tend not to see many flies either. Especially when one sees how much food is in the open air.

Mosquito volume is not much different than any "western" area.

[Goatscrot]

Dengue is a danger, although I'm not sure how likely it is in BKK. As Mr. W pointed out, the mosquitos in BKK are rather few and far between. I do think it's the pollution and smog.

However, it is a risk outside of BKK. One of my GF's staff members came down with it right after Songkran. He contracted it upcountry when visiting family, and was hospitalized in BKK.

So, if you'll be staying in BKK, don't worry. If you're going to remote parts, long sleeves, long pants and Off are recommended.Yes, if you are in BKK worry. Dengue is an urban disease as well. It occurs in clusters. Over my 13 years here I have had many friends contract it in BKK.

[Pekkakoo]

No one here is afraid of the Dengue fever?After 3 days in BKK I have 3 big red spots on my ankles so mosquitoes are out there here in Sukhumvit. I have been wearing shorts and have repellent spray with me but have forgot to use it. Maybe should start using it at night. Dengue still should be rare and I think dengue mosquitoes are active only during day time and at that time there might not be so many of those flying things around.

[BionicMan]

After 3 days in BKK I have 3 big red spots on my ankles so mosquitoes are out there here in Sukhumvit. I have been wearing shorts and have repellent spray with me but have forgot to use it. Maybe should start using it at night. Dengue still should be rare and I think dengue mosquitoes are active only during day time and at that time there might not be so many of those flying things around.It is also up to the individual sometime, if their blood is juicy for the mosquito.

[PinkPearl]

After 3 days in BKK I have 3 big red spots on my ankles so mosquitoes are out there here in Sukhumvit.I get that too when they bite me here in BKK, whether it's on the face, arm, leg, etc. Quite itchy for days & stays red for up to weeks.

Though haven't see any mosquitos here since arriving in early May, but I don't get out much, especially at night.

I saw mosquitos everywhere, in small numbers, usually just one, from early Dec to late March.

[Dextro Sol]

After 3 days in BKK I have 3 big red spots on my ankles so mosquitoes are out there here in Sukhumvit. I have been wearing shorts and have repellent spray with me but have forgot to use it. Maybe should start using it at night. Dengue still should be rare and I think dengue mosquitoes are active only during day time and at that time there might not be so many of those flying things around.I came back home two weeks ago after spending 2 weeks in BKK. All the time I wore long pants and socks, not only because of mosquitos, more for looking city dressed. No mosquito bites at all and I didn't use any repellant spray either. So, dress correctly and save yourself from Dengue!

[Dextro Sol]

i have been to thailand in all seasons (wet and dry seasons) and in many different places and i must say i am always very surprised about the low number of mosquitoes. initially i used a repellent on my arms and legs, but stopped doing it as it seemed really silly.i will never forget some years ago when i arrived in koh samed in a speedboat around 6 pm. severe attack of hundreds of mosquitos big as (small) birds. had to run to the hotel reception in panic. horrible! but that was no tiger mosquitos, they are much smaller and you will hardly notice them.

[Sir Lancelot]

Are there lots of mosquitos in the bars at Nana and Cowboy?I can't remember seeing any at all (and normally I'm the staple diet of mozzies!). There tend not to be lots of mosquitos in the big cities and those there are aren't likely to carry disease. If you go to Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai in the north or the island of Koh Chang, wear lots of insect repellent with Deet. Likewise anywhere with jungle. If there is a Dengue outbreak, now might not be the time for a trek to see the hill-tribes for example. But Bangkok should be okay. All of the gogo bars are air-conditioned anyway so you definitely won't see any inside.

[BionicMan]

when i arrived in koh samed in a speedboat around 6 pm. severe attack of hundreds of mosquitos big as (small) birds. .you can't blame them. 6pm is about dinner time. they check the speedboat schedule, gather around the pier, have dinner and then go to sleep. good that mosquito have not learnt yet the bar life!

[Bartchamdo]

i'm not certain when [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s opens. definitely by 11, maybe a bit earlier. you can definitely get laid at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, but best not to wait until you're upstairs to find out. a quickie interview initially would be the way to go.[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s opens at around 8 or 9 for the businessmen who want to stop by quickly on their way to work.

i agree that waiting til 10am makes more sense. by then mango, cherry, annie's, etc. will be open. it's easy to pass a few hours eating breakfast or looking around the neighborhood.

[BionicMan]

Slowly but surely all my visions of Thai Prostitution being a noble profession are being annihilated. For a while there I'm thinking these girls are doing the LORDS work. Charming, witty, good company, yadda yadda yadda! Only thinking of helping the FAMILEE!

Giving extra time- no additional charge!

Holy Batman what an iddiot I was!Your last line shows that you finally saw The Light! Ah ah ah ah

[PinkPearl]

I get my lazy butt to Nana at midnight to see if I can confirm these big natural titty spottings PinkPearl speaks of.

(snip)

Walking by Zen bar across from the Nana hotel parking lot I meet a employee who I seem to have good chemistry with and has a fabulous rear. Sit on the bar stool outside groping her ass and chatting from midnight to 2am while simultaneously eyeballing the freelancers across the street and did not see any big natural titties during those 2 hours.As mentioned in my post the DD girls I saw across the street from NEP were found in the mid afternoon, at 7 & 10 pm & at night. So you obviously missed the boat arriving at 12 in the morning. That's when the LBs are often out in force & IMO the late night "shift" of street gals leaves a lot to be desired, as I've posted before. Not in looks, makeup or gear, perhaps, but everything else. Attitude, service, sobriety. What's that saying, the early bird gets the worm?

Tonight (Wednesday the 19th, BKK time) I had the pleasure of enjoying a very pretty Nana Hotel car park 1000 Baht ST regular who facially resembles model Celia Kwok or many of those on sex 141 more than your typical Thai P4P girl. Services given included BBBJ, DATO, FS with FK, in that order. I grabbed her quickly as I saw Harold 666 coming around the corner towards her with his eyeballs bugging out & copious amounts of saliva dripping down his chin.

[AussieBeer]

Yes I know newbie with his 1st post.

But I've been reading this site on & off for the last year preparing for my one night.

I'm a 48 year old Aussie who's been going to Thailand since I was 23, married my Thai girlfriend about 17 years ago & we both live in Australia.

Whenever we go back to Thailand my leash is normally not long enough to partake of anything mentioned in this forum as she knows better.

This time I've let my wife go a week earlier & I've swindled one night in Bangkok alone before I travel upcountry to join my wife & leash.

I've sort of prepared. Gone on a diet (back to my normal weight) , got & tried some Indian viagra, got & tried alone some sagami condoms (nearly feels like bareback enough not to use latex again)

I'm to arrive at swampy airport at 8pm in a weeks time.

I think I'll try a taxi with pay for tolls & take quickest route.

Since it's 1 night & I've never really experienced a true PSE I think I must go for this as I would hate to try a bar / etc. With a starfish experience.

I was originally going to try Eden but there's too many negative / bad reports for me to risk it.

The last couple of weeks of reports have led me to try Tulip, SnowWhite or Mango.

I'm thinking of either Tulip or SnowWhite & pick a girl with a positive report from the last few weeks.

Since I arrive at swampy at 8pm & their last client is at 11pm should I book for their premises or a out-call to my hotel?

If I book a out-call how do I arrange that as I don't know my room number as I'm not there yet?

What time? I think 10. 30pm should allow me to get there & have a quick shave & shower. Any thoughts?

I still haven't picked my hotel yet, still don't know which one?

I'm willing to spend 3000-5000B.

I was thinking of Livingston's Lodge as it's closer to Tulip, SnowWhite.

But I'm thinking of a nicer place closer to some action after 1am (after my Tulip / SnowWhite action). Any thoughts?

It seems at 1am the go-go's are winding up (nearly closed with only the nightly rejects left)

& Nana parking lot is full of ugly-drunk girls & a pack of katoeys.

Any other places to try, probably not interested in a upmarket nightclub / disco though.

If anyone can help me positively with the above it would be greatly appreciated.

As I'm running out of time (have to book a girl & hotel room in the next day or two)

If I get some help & have a great experience I'll try to write up a report when I get back.

[Dr BJ]

Last Monday I decided to try the new restaurant which has opened recently in Soi 4. It was called Istanbul before and has re-opened as Dubai. Firstly I was surprised how busy the place was especially as it was a Monday, probably almost 70% full. There were a lot of Korean people there so the owner may have struck some kind of all in voucher deal with tour operators. To my relief they do serve alcohol. The waiter was very helpful, I ordered a prawn masala with rice and a double glass of red wine. The food was served in about ten minutes, which impressed me.

The staff were helpful without being over-bearing. I don't like being asked every five minutes if everything is OK. Overall a very nice experience and somewhere I would not only return to but also recommend to others. The quality of the food and wine was very good. Total cost 600 baht including the wine.

Regards,

BJ

[Goatscrot]

So anyway I passed through an asoke office bldg. On my way to foodland for lunch. OMG the office girls look so darn hot. .They are. That is what makes is hard for me to go to Nana or Cowboy. Gals there pale in comparison to office girls.

[Pinaypounder]

Gentlemen returning to the land I love next week. With the new airport and a short visit should I go eat to Pattaya or West to BKK. I need clothes sex and massages and not necessarily in that order.

Your counsel please.

PP

[Wolvenvacht]

Gentlemen returning to the land I love next week. With the new airport and a short visit should I go eat to Pattaya or West to BKK. I need clothes sex and massages and not necessarily in that order.

Your counsel please.

PPWith the airport raillink you will be in no time near Nana or Soi Cowboy. So "Go West!"