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You could try Cherry Massage too. The service levels are pretty decent and PSE for sure.
Wolvenvacht
06-20-13, 18:54
I still haven't picked my hotel yet, still don't know which one?
I'm willing to spend 3000-5000B.
I was thinking of Livingston's Lodge as it's closer to Tulip, SnowWhite.
But I'm thinking of a nicer place closer to some action after 1am (after my Tulip / SnowWhite action). Any thoughts?Livingstone is very nice, totally GF, they have their "own" ladies in the sports lounge bar but Soi 33 has a fair number of girlie bars, as well. So it is close to the action.
Even Soi Cowboy is only a short drive in a taxi away.
Traveler1234
06-20-13, 20:28
Yes I know newbie with his 1st post.
I'm thinking of either Tulip or SnowWhite & pick a girl with a positive report from the last few weeks.
Since I arrive at swampy at 8pm & their last client is at 11pm should I book for their premises or a out-call to my hotel?
If I book a out-call how do I arrange that as I don't know my room number as I'm not there yet?
What time? I think 10. 30pm should allow me to get there & have a quick shave & shower. Any thoughts?
I was thinking of Livingston's Lodge as it's closer to Tulip, SnowWhite.
But I'm thinking of a nicer place closer to some action after 1am (after my Tulip / SnowWhite action). Any thoughts?Tulip / SnowWhite / EZ / Mango are all a stone's throw from LL on Soi 33 so getting room service is easy, even if you don't know room number. You can make your booking with one of the oilies. I know EZ and Tulip definitely reply to emails, no personal experience with emails for others [maybe call them? ], then email Giotto when you make your LL hotel booking. He'll entertain her if you're late!
There's still time afterwards to walk or taxi to Cowboy Soi or Nana for go-go bars or whatever meets your fancy.
And we expect a report of your escapades.
I'm just going to be in BKK for two nights, but don't arrive at airport until 10:20pm. If I want to exchange cash Baht, is the rate at the airport good, and if not, are there any change places open around 11:30 near Soi Cowboy?
Want to make sure I get off to a running start on first night.
Thanks
Tulip / SnowWhite / EZ / Mango are all a stone's throw from LL on Soi 33 so getting room service is easy, even if you don't know room number. You can make your booking with one of the oilies. I know EZ and Tulip definitely reply to emails, no personal experience with emails for others [maybe call them? ], then email Giotto when you make your LL hotel booking. He'll entertain her if you're late!
There's still time afterwards to walk or taxi to Cowboy Soi or Nana for go-go bars or whatever meets your fancy.
And we expect a report of your escapades.Good post and accurate. Livingstone Lodge has its own 'Sports Bar' and being on Soi 33 you have a basis for further mongering. I don't care that the dead artists bars have
Largely gone (expensive drinks and expensive ladies) to be replaced by a mixture of other places providing plenty of opportunity to monger.
As to Soi Cowboy and Nana. Walking distance even if your take out might expect a taxi back. Soi even numbers run much more slowly on the far side of Skvt so you are not far from Sois 22 and 24.
Enjoy
I have one night in BangkokWithout a doubt the JW. Ground zero and nice digs. Leave LL for longer trips.
Any recommendations for regular nightclubs to meet regular women and working girls?
Also, recommendations for top massage clubs. Any high end service with one or more ladies?
Tony Hoeprano
06-20-13, 23:46
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmacies
JesseJames
06-20-13, 23:53
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmaciesSee a doctor.
NeverGetsOld
06-20-13, 23:54
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmaciesMost pharmacists speak good English and will hook you up. I have had this problem in Thailand as well, never before. Doubt it's the popcorn although that's a lot of fiber. I think the hygiene here is probably horrific across the board. They leave food out with 50 flies on them before serving.
AussieBeer
06-21-13, 00:31
Tulip / SnowWhite / EZ / Mango are all a stone's throw from LL on Soi 33 so getting room service is easy, even if you don't know room number. You can make your booking with one of the oilies. I know EZ and Tulip definitely reply to emails, no personal experience with emails for others [maybe call them? ], then email Giotto when you make your LL hotel booking. He'll entertain her if you're late!
There's still time afterwards to walk or taxi to Cowboy Soi or Nana for go-go bars or whatever meets your fancy.
And we expect a report of your escapades.Thank you for that answer, so it looks like LL it is!
All I need to do now is pick a girl & ring & book.
I think I might say to them " choice (1) is. , choice (2) is. , choice (3) is." in case one is off / sick / on the rags for the day.
If my escapade is worthy enough for this forum I will post the result.
Paul Kausch
06-21-13, 01:09
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmaciesTwo things you might try. The first is the BRAT diet that pediatricians tell parents to feed children with diarrhea. This consists of bananas, steamed white rice (with nothing added) , apples and toast (no butter). Start with bananas; add the rice when you can eat the bananas without symptoms; etc.
The other is to eat nothing but plain steamed white rice and plain yogurt with active cultures. The first worked on my children; the second has worked for me.
See a doctor.I'm not sure if you can get here or not, but it really works better than most scrips. Lesson to all bring yours with you when you come.
Tulip / SnowWhite / EZ / Mango are all a stone's throw from LL on Soi 33 so getting room service is easy, even if you don't know room number. You can make your booking with one of the oilies. I know EZ and Tulip definitely reply to emails, no personal experience with emails for others [maybe call them? ], then email Giotto when you make your LL hotel booking. He'll entertain her if you're late!
There's still time afterwards to walk or taxi to Cowboy Soi or Nana for go-go bars or whatever meets your fancy.
And we expect a report of your escapades.Do you have the email for Tulip?
Go see this guy.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=1382140&viewfull=1#post1382140
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmacies
AussieBeer
06-21-13, 03:17
Do you have the email for Tulip?I have found both Tulip / SnowWhite telephone numbers on their website.
I think it would be easier to ring them, it case 1 girl is booked & give them my choices for girls (ie 1, 2.3)
I still haven't decided which oiley or girls but will probably ring them tomorrow.
I can find more reviews of the Tulip girls but SnowWhite girls are meant to be better / prettier? But not enough reviews to choose.
I'm looking for the full works, have never tried anal, arse licking & my Thai wife has never let me CIM, also only 1 pop per week so I'm looking for a good experience.
If I land at swampy at 8pm should 10. 30pm be a good time to book at LL? , would that give me enough time to get there & get ready or should I make it 11pm?
Any recommendations for regular nightclubs to meet regular women and working girls?
Also, recommendations for top massage clubs. Any high end service with one or more ladies?I recommend you read the Forum, and not be lazy, also pay the $20 membership fee.
Tony Hoeprano
06-21-13, 05:48
Most pharmacists speak good English and will hook you up. I have had this problem in Thailand as well, never before. Doubt it's the popcorn although that's a lot of fiber. I think the hygiene here is probably horrific across the board. They leave food out with 50 flies on them before serving.Probably not as good, I doubt a food handling card is required to serve food in Thai. I recall one time at a street vendor the guy started picking his nose right in front of me..
Two things you might try. The first is the BRAT diet that pediatricians tell parents to feed children with diarrhea. This consists of bananas, steamed white rice (with nothing added) , apples and toast (no butter). Start with bananas; add the rice when you can eat the bananas without symptoms; etc.
The other is to eat nothing but plain steamed white rice and plain yogurt with active cultures. The first worked on my children; the second has worked for me.Yeah, I'll have to try that and next time bring a lot of pepto. It can be awful especially if you're on a full BTS and have to get off the next stop and hopefully there's a toilet nearby lol
AussieBeer
06-21-13, 10:54
=AussieBeer; 1436503]I'm thinking of either Tulip or SnowWhite & pick a girl with a positive report from the last few weeks.It looks like I can't book a outcall with Tulip if they don't have a website with a contact telephone number?
So unless I've missed something it will have to be SnowWhite / Mango
AussieDoug
06-21-13, 12:10
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmaciesFWIW, some years back I used to arrive into Bangkok fairly regularly, and so did a doctor (a real one) from Malaysia known as Dr. Sundaras, his asfo moniker. He tells me his cure was no eating, only drink real original coke cola, not diet coke, and after a day or so it will be gone, only the original formula in a bottle, not any extra flavours etc. Or
Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmaciesBest thing for upset stomach is starve yourself for a day. Only drink sugary drinks. If you get Gatorade it is better. By evening you should be fine.
Taking medicine makes you more tired and you will not have any energy to satisfy your lady.
LittleBigMan
06-21-13, 14:37
IMHO, anyone traveling to Asia should carry some basic medication especially anti diarrhea medication. Certainly those little pills would take up less room that a bottle of pepto bismo and can take up much less room that the small packs of condom you guys are carrying for your trip.
One doesn't have to take the full tablet, I give them away to visitors like candy. Tell them the first sign of a problem break it in half and go from there. That usually takes care of the problem.
As noted, living here for a number of years you can go to any pharmacy and just tell them what you have and they will give you something usually a few items for your problem. Do you think you are the only ones shitting in your pants for Thais this is a daily event to them.
If nose picking is the worse you can come up with I've seen how the food is handle where the vendors themselves buy their products in the morning and seen dozens of vendors home (more than I care for) how they handle the food and prepare it. You would never eat vendor or market food again if I went into detail. The pots and pans they use are as toxic as the pesticiles they use in growing their fruit and vegetable. You would starve if you lived here if you got too technical. You just got to go with it!
As for medicine, as I said you can get their form of Pepto Bismo, it comes in a white small bottle, in any 7/11 store there is a small medicine counter area that you will find it even if you don't read Thai? It is pretty obvious? And if you get it real bad and it runs like water and you are dead and tired you can also get the packs of electrolites that you just add to water and drink. Forget the sugar and Gatoraid, get yourself at a street vendor stand fresh coconut juices straight from one of those small coconut it has 10x the stuff you would get at any pharmacy. That is pure energy.
As noted by another poster, bananas and straight white rice steam is best for you. That is the same recipe they give dogs when they have the bad runs. That should work perfectly for you dog mongers?
Now you have the solution get yourself cleanup and a fresh pair of underwear and get to work just don't ask any girl to lick your swollen ass for a few days?
I recall one time at a street vendor the guy started picking his nose right in front of me.Just adding the local flavour, mate. Just some extra flavour. LOL
Are excellent if the runs continue more than 24 hours. Often available in pharmacies marked "UNICEF". No doubt part of UNICEF's aid for young children getting into the shops.
I have a pregnancy fetish. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be found? Bar, street worker, red light area?I was lucky once in soi4 one late night returning after one of the late night discos. Some 3-4 years ago. It is not impossible to find a pregnant working girl, but It is definitely not easy.
[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1395680]Been reading old post and maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen the Thermae mentioned. Been around for over 10 years and seems to be getting some fresh blood pumped into the place / QUOTE]Since Vietnam days, more like 40yrs.
IMHO, ae, in any 7/11 store there is a small medicine counter area that you will find it even if you don't read Thai? It is pretty obvious? And if you get it real bad and it runs like water and you are dead and tired you can also get the packs of electrolites that you just add to water and drink. Forget the sugar and Gatoraid, get yourself at a street vendor stand fresh coconut juices straight from one of those small coconut it has 10x the stuff you would get at any pharmacy. That is pure energy.
As noted by another poster, bananas and straight white rice steam is best for you. That is the same recipe they give dogs when they have the bad runs. That should work perfectly for you dog mongers?
Now you have the solution get yourself cleanup and a fresh pair of underwear and get to work just don't ask any girl to lick your swollen ass for a few days?I have a little loose stomach here every day, but I think it is not a problem and hopefully not dangerous. Maybe one reason is that I eat very spicy food. I don't think it leads to dehydration, because it is not like diarrhea, multiple times a day but just watery like once a day. Still I'd like to find that UNICEF product mentioned, I think it can be very handy if you go weak. 7eleven not have but I must go ask pharmacy.
I have also Zithromax, I think for food poisoning it should help?
Now I have nose running and fever 38 last night, maybe nothing serious, I just think it is from getting wet due to rain and then getting cold with air con. Hopefully painkillers and rest help.
=Tony Hoeprano;1436720]Does anyone have any sure-fire cures for upset stomach and the runs in Thailand? Having an upset stomach and / or the runs made it unpleasant to both monger and go on non-p4p dates. It seems culprits were movie theatre popcorn (last saw Ironman 3 and had to run to the bathroom after it was finished LOL) , overeating at buffets, and waiting until I got very hungry. I normally don't take anti diarrhea medication except pepto bismo but they don't sell it in Thailand pharmaciesSomething I learnt in India.
Coca-Cola (normal red one) and then put a good 2 pinches of salt into it.
Drink 1 of those every four hours. Coke and salt kills anything in your stomach.
Yes I have been there a few times and first time last autumn I believe. Very nice crowd of people. A mixed girl crowd (freelance and regular). I guess this club runs in the same segment as Bed&Supper, Q-Bar and BASH (to mention some other clubs in Soi 11 as well). Could ofcourse also mentioned Climax in the same gasp for air but that I consider as a freelanceplace only. Others may argue.
Between 5-1000bht covercharge weekends. But I have had good times at Levels as well. 1 btl of Absolute runs around 3000BHT plus extras ofcourse.This is a Hi-end club for the "in crowd" (Local upperclas). I would never compare this to Climax, as this club is not a P4P club wich I consider Climax to be a kind of. It is a sophisticated and cool place with a great atmosphere. If you go, then you should dress to the occasion.
Traveler1234
06-22-13, 15:11
Do you have the email for Tulip?Apologies, was thinking of Annies when typing Tulip. Think they only use phone service.
Member #4387
06-22-13, 19:45
This is a Hi-end club for the "in crowd" (Local upperclas). I would never compare this to Climax, as this club is not a P4P club wich I consider Climax to be a kind of. It is a sophisticated and cool place with a great atmosphere. If you go, then you should dress to the occasion.I pretty much agree with you and I did also underline in my post that I view Climax as an all in freelance hangout (with small exceptions) so in that way it stands out from the other mentioned clubs. Levels, Q-Bar, Bed&Supper (still there) , BASH are in my view no hi end club but semi hi end club with a mixed crowd from tourist / probably well heeled locals / expats (both sexes) and some freelancegirls (but here you have to work carefully as chances are high you can run into a non P4P girl)
You don't find hi end clubs in the lower Sukhumvit area. But ofcourse we can have different criterias in how we view a nightclub.
I agree with your comments regarding dresscodes. You would look quite misplaced (if you get in at all) with your flip flops and your Victoria Bitter (VB) singlet (no offence to aussies that is. I have one VB singlet on my own)lets say in BASH or Levels.
Something I learnt in India.
Coca-Cola (normal red one) and then put a good 2 pinches of salt into it.
Drink 1 of those every four hours. Coke and salt kills anything in your stomach.If it's bad Ciprofloxacin. Just google "cipro travelers diarrhea".
Wolvenvacht
06-23-13, 09:22
Something I learnt in India.
Coca-Cola (normal red one) and then put a good 2 pinches of salt into it.
Drink 1 of those every four hours. Coke and salt kills anything in your stomach.If it hasn't been killed by your stomach acid, then some Coke and salt will not do the trick either.
"Cola + salt" is a quick and easy replacement for "Oral Rehydration Therapy" solutions: water + sugar + salts
JesseJames
06-23-13, 09:57
I'm not sure if you can get here or not, but it really works better than most scrips. Lesson to all bring yours with you when you come.You should bring a complete assortment of all prescription medications that you take plus those that you may need in an emergency, when you travel anywhere. However, the best thing is to visit a hospital, clinic or doctor for an examination. You might have appendicitis or something only a doctor can diagnose. In Thailand, such a visit is about 1000 Baht with medication. Wasting time with home remedies and risking your life is the most foolish thing you can do. Your embassy doesn't need another corpse of a drunken jerkoff to deal with.
I recommend you read the Forum, and not be lazy, also pay the $20 membership fee.What does paying the fee have to do with anything. I have in the past.
I've gone over several pages but have not found good detailed posting as there used to be in the past.
Mr Enternational
06-23-13, 17:54
However, the best thing is to visit a hospital, clinic or doctor for an examination. You might have appendicitis or something only a doctor can diagnose. In Thailand, such a visit is about 1000 Baht with medication. Wasting time with home remedies and risking your life is the most foolish thing you can do. Your embassy doesn't need another corpse of a drunken jerkoff to deal with.I agree with that, but it must be a farang ripoff place to charge 1000 baht. My doctor only charges 400 baht including medicine.
Pepto-Bismol. Taking two tablets of Pepto-Bismol four times a day before and during international travel can help prevent many cases of diarrhea. Pepto-Bismol should not be taken for more than 3 weeks. Both aspirin and Pepto-Bismol share the active ingredient salicylate, which can be harmful to children. Many medications interfere with salicylate, and people who are allergic to aspirin, pregnant women, and those with ulcers, other bleeding disorders, or gout, should not take Pepto-Bismol without consulting a doctor. Side effects of Pepto-Bismol include ringing in the ears and black stools and tongue.About 20 years ago, I was on a trip through the Amazon that included several medical doctors. Those doctors were swigging Pepto-Bismol like sailors drinking beer. I was told that the Pepto-Bismol prevents or lessens diarrhea by coating the stomach.
Since then, I've followed the Pepto-Bismol routine on every overseas trip that I have taken. I'll drink Pepto-Bismol from a bottle shortly BEFORE the trip. During the trip, I'll take two chewable Pepto-Bismol tablets four times a day. So far, so good. You still have to use good common sense on what to eat and drink. It's still possible that you'll get diarrhea, but it doesn't last long.
If you're in the USA, the Target store brand of Pepto-Bismol is what I buy especially the chewable tablets. It's easy to carry the chewable tablets in your pocket so you don't forget to take it.
Prevention is the key. Or else bring lots of extra underwear and carry a small emergency roll of toilet paper at all times.
About 20 years ago, I was on a trip through the Amazon that included several medical doctors. Those doctors were swigging Pepto-Bismol like sailors drinking beer. I was told that the Pepto-Bismol prevents or lessens diarrhea by coating the stomach.
Since then, I've followed the Pepto-Bismol routine on every overseas trip that I have taken. I'll drink Pepto-Bismol from a bottle shortly BEFORE the trip. During the trip, I'll take two chewable Pepto-Bismol tablets four times a day...Just about the right sort of post to confuse the situation totally. Taking any medicine continuously merely postpones the day when you get the runs.
And doctors are the worst.
In 40 years of overseas travel with no specific pills / medicines. I have survived with one minor attack of the and v. Americans are particularly prone to.
The and v since they live in a sterile world. Others who brush their teeth with the local water; eat local food, freshly cooked and avoid 4* hotel buffets survive.
[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1395680]Been reading old post and maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen the Thermae mentioned. Been around for over 10 years and seems to be getting some fresh blood pumped into the place / QUOTE]Since Vietnam days, more like 40yrs.I checked out Thermae and Biergarten a couple of weeks ago to show a visiting friend. During the day Biergarten was empty (this was a Friday afternoon) and Thermae was closed with a passed out farang in the stairwell. We returned in the evening. Biergarten was packed and filled with the usual assortment of farang and Grade B freelancers. But Thermae. Wow!. Thermae was packed with young, good-looking girls who absolutely ignored us because we weren't Japanese, who were sitting there smoking, drinking, and looking.
We ended up going to Baccara to see the bazillion girls. The place also ended up packed, mostly with Japanese. Good for the girls if they're getting more bucks out of Japanese and Middle Easterners but it is tough being a cheap farang.
Just about the right sort of post to confuse the situation totally. Taking any medicine continuously merely postpones the day when you get the runs.
And doctors are the worst.
In 40 years of overseas travel with no specific pills / medicines. I have survived with one minor attack of d and v. Americans are particularly prone to d and v since they live in a sterile world. Others who brush their teeth with the local water; eat local food, freshly cooked and avoid 4* hotel buffets survive.There is so much crap written by people with no knowledge or expertise, so it is good to see the occasional bit of common sense. Thank you, Scorchin.
There is no need or point in taking Pepto-Bismol as a preventative. If you get mild diarrhoea it can help. Generally D and V clears up after a few days, and can be helped by rehydration therapy (sports drinks are often useful). If it continues, see a doctor. He will probably prescribe ciprofloxacin. If you are confident in your own diagnostic capabilities and don't want to see a doctor, then 2 x 2mg loperamide (which you can buy over the counter) will stop diarrhoea pretty quickly (but won't cure any underlying disease).
And I completely agree with eating local food etc etc.
LittleBigMan
06-24-13, 09:54
You should bring a complete assortment of all prescription medications that you take plus those that you may need in an emergency, when you travel anywhere. However, the best thing is to visit a hospital, clinic or doctor for an examination. You might have appendicitis or something only a doctor can diagnose. In Thailand, such a visit is about 1000 Baht with medication. Wasting time with home remedies and risking your life is the most foolish thing you can do. Your embassy doesn't need another corpse of a drunken jerkoff to deal with.Personally in many ways we are all over thinking this topic? I personally living here like many of the medicine that are available in the States. Those medicine like Vitamins I take I bring back here and use when I get sick or need. Although I can get many of the medicine here for like runs what I don't like is when I go in a pharmacy I'm given a hand full of pills for one problem. I find that the over the counter stuff in the USA are much stronger that is what I have found in looking at the labels.
Like the last week, I have a cough because I got stuck in the rain a few times soaked and woke up the next day with a sore throat, lost of voice and thereafter a cough. It is the same thing each time I have medicine from the USA over the counter that would most likely knock it out in a day. But I usually wait day or so and then go to a Thai pharmacy and see what they give me. If it works I look it up on the Internet and keep a record for the next time.
What I see and read here is you wouldn't do it in the USA. Or any other Western country if you have the runs you go immediately to the doctor because it think it is very serious or life threatening. To think you have the runs here and think you might have a appentictis or you got to go to a hospital and only a doctor can diagnose is a big stretch in my opinion. Is it so cheap here and so good that you would do something you wouldn't at home?
Just last week a expat I knew had died, he was told that he had this at BHP, got a operation for it because he believed that doctor diagnose after the operation he still felt the same went back in and now they told him he had something else 2 weeks later in was dead. This brought up a old conversation regarding hospital in Thailand especially Bumrungrad and BPH in Pattaya, both International known but living her for years we have heard the horrible stories regarding these hospital when it comes to serious illness and how procedure are recommended when not necessary. We living here know that many of these hospital are profit only and have quotas each day to fill rooms and give so many unnecessary test. How would you like to go in having the runs and have the doctor tell you they got to do a stomach scope to know? On a another topic it isn't what it seems here?
There is a reason majority of the medicine you buy over the counter USA say on the bottle if your problems doesn't resolve in a few day " go see a doctor " So to end, like everything else when you land in LOS you get stupid, everyone should know there own health, and if you don't get a checkup and if you are that bad off as noted you shouldn't come the USA Embassy has enough problem without spending tax dollars to send your ass back home. But for simple run in the pants to run to a hospital is a over reaction in my opinion. Some of you guys need to stop being so anal retentive with all this pepto stuff! Just let the shit flow!
We living here know that many of these hospital are profit only and have quotas each day to fill rooms and give so many unnecessary test. How would you like to go in having the runs and have the doctor tell you they got to do a stomach scope to know? On a another topic it isn't what it seems here?True that. One of the reasons I have eschewed the top end privates in favor of places like St Louis Hospital. Actually if you have time the teaching facilities like Chula are fantastic and very cheap. Often you get to see Drs who are also professors. A visit there can run all of 100 baht.
JayHighFive
06-24-13, 11:12
I remember seeing a price list will all the bar fine and drink cost for the bars / clubs in Bangkok. Does anyone know where I can find this?
LittleBigMan
06-24-13, 11:28
True that. One of the reasons I have eschewed the top end privates in favor of places like St Louis Hospital. Actually if you have time the teaching facilities like Chula are fantastic and very cheap. Often you get to see Drs who are also professors. A visit there can run all of 100 baht.I've heard the same but this is the first time I've heard anything about St Louis and I'm in Pattaya for a emergency it isn't a option. Since you eschewed for personally reason are these hospital part of the National Health system that is being offered for Thais. In the very near future I will have to take a day trip up and ccheck it out?
Thanks, LBM
Crazy4Thai
06-24-13, 11:58
I've heard the same but this is the first time I've heard anything about St Louis and I'm in Pattaya for a emergency it isn't a option. Since you eschewed for personally reason are these hospital part of the National Health system that is being offered for Thais. In the very near future I will have to take a day trip up and ccheck it out?
Thanks, LBMI'll add another option for you too. The Adventist Hospital in BKK offers world class care at reasonable prices. I had a complete physical there for one third the cost of the popular rip off big names. No add ons, no hassles and a doctor who would actually talk to me and not talk down to me. I also managed this as a walk in patient and was done and out in 2 hours.
I've been checking out the street scene- not at all impressed. 1000 baht might be overpaying just a teenie tiny bit. LOL,Great. All the more for me. It's been a gold mine out there since 07.
You should have seen the FF rack on the totally beautiful babe in the nurse's uniform a couple years ago. Excellent English skills too, BTW, unlike your R4 girls you're constantly advertising. How much do they pay you. 10 baht a post. No doubt you're enticing some business there, even if it's guys like me who just want to look & blow 200B on a drink.
But it sounds like you're stuck looking at street walkers in 300 baht Chinatown. Isn't it time you explored other areas of Bangkok?
Or is it the Grace Hotel you are camped out at. Those girls would have to pay me to go with them.
Same for many, many, many, or let's just say most bar & gogo girls.
I've read a bunch of your posts and seems you are always asking for info but rarely post any info in return. It's your right I guess but I'd really like to know why this would help you. Would you avoid bars with higher drink prices?
I remember seeing a price list will all the bar fine and drink cost for the bars / clubs in Bangkok. Does anyone know where I can find this?
I'll add another option for you too. The Adventist Hospital in BKK offers world class care at reasonable prices. I had a complete physical there for one third the cost of the popular rip off big names. No add ons, no hassles and a doctor who would actually talk to me and not talk down to me. I also managed this as a walk in patient and was done and out in 2 hours.It's a good hospital. Heck, I was born there.
I'll add another option for you too. The Adventist Hospital in BKK offers world class care at reasonable prices. I had a complete physical there for one third the cost of the popular rip off big names. No add ons, no hassles and a doctor who would actually talk to me and not talk down to me. I also managed this as a walk in patient and was done and out in 2 hours.The Adventist Hospital is called Mission Hospital. They also have a great vegetarian cafeteria and a shop that sells wonderful breads at about 65 baht a loaf!
I've heard the same but this is the first time I've heard anything about St Louis and I'm in Pattaya for a emergency it isn't a option. Since you eschewed for personally reason are these hospital part of the National Health system that is being offered for Thais. In the very near future I will have to take a day trip up and ccheck it out?
Thanks, LBMSt Louis is a private hospital (but non-profit Catholic) , but is far less expensive than Bummy, Samit, BNH, etc. The teaching facilities like Chula and Siraraj are part of the gov system, but anyone can go there. Bad thing is wait times, but if you have the time, they are cheap and good.
Paul Kausch
06-24-13, 18:53
There is so much crap written by people with no knowledge or expertise, so it is good to see the occasional bit of common sense. Thank you, Scorchin.
There is no need or point in taking Pepto-Bismol as a preventative. If you get mild diarrhoea it can help. Generally D and V clears up after a few days, and can be helped by rehydration therapy (sports drinks are often useful). If it continues, see a doctor. He will probably prescribe ciprofloxacin. If you are confident in your own diagnostic capabilities and don't want to see a doctor, then 2 x 2mg loperamide (which you can buy over the counter) will stop diarrhoea pretty quickly (but won't cure any underlying disease).
And I completely agree with eating local food etc etc.I've traveled extensively, typically eat food from the street stalls and restaurants frequented by locals. I get D and V far more frequently from eating in USA restaurants; and I always notice a slight upset stomach and loose bowels for a couple of days when I return to the States after an extended trip.
I was there but I forgot which ones were full nude other then Suzy wongs. Lets make a list of them from soi cowboy and NEP. Lets make a list if at least 10 so we have options. I know you BKK veterans know this info off the top of your head.
Ill even start the list.
1. Suzy Wong's.
2.
3.
LittleBigMan
06-25-13, 02:43
Goatscrot, C4Thai,
Thanks for the information, I will check them out!
Great.
You should have seen the FF rack on the totally beautiful babe in the nurse's uniform a couple years ago. Excellent English skills too, Ha, Nadia the bondage queen cum nurse cum anal dildo queen. Anyone who has been with Nadia and talks about her being beautiful loses more credibility than you will ever know among many of us. BTW, she just had a baby and both are doing fine.
I've traveled extensively, typically eat food from the street stalls and restaurants frequented by locals. I get D and V far more frequently from eating in USA restaurants; and I always notice a slight upset stomach and loose bowels for a couple of days when I return to the States after an extended trip.Same here. I frequent the popular street stalls in BKK and rarely have any problems. And, when I do, its a garden variety event, here today and gone tomorrow.
Ha, Nadia the bondage queen cum nurse cum anal dildo queen. Anyone who has been with Nadia and talks about her being beautiful loses more credibility than you will ever know among many of us. BTW, she just had a baby and both are doing fine.The girl I saw had another name, the biggest rack I've ever seen in LOS (including magazines & online websites) & was drop dead beautiful, which may explain why she hasn't been seen in 2 years. Anyone saying otherwise must be in dire need of seeing a ophthalmologist. I have fond memories of doing her BB doggystyle with one hand cupping each of those humunguous mammaries. Nice round bubble butt for boinking too. Girls like this doesn't last long in the Nana Hotel car park, so you have to scoop them up while you can.
[QUOTE=Stevebny; 1438016]Are you kidding me! There s so much out there for the cheap farang. Thailand is your oyster.
Unless you looking for head turners and stunners for 1000 baht and below. LOL. Good luck then.It was a tour for my friend going from Nana to Soi Cowboy by way of Biergarten and a couple of the BJ places as well. I agree that if you put in the effort you can find quite acceptable bed mates for decent prices but my buddy was particularly fussy. Of course, who knows what he did after I dropped him off back at the JW Marriott, probably something stupidly expensive.
[QU OTE=AussieBeer; 1436503]Yes I know newbie with his 1st post.
But I've been reading this site on & off for the last year preparing for my one night.
I'm a 48 year old Aussie who's been going to Thailand since I was 23, married my Thai girlfriend about 17 years ago & we both live in Australia.
Whenever we go back to Thailand my leash is normally not long enough to partake of anything mentioned in this forum as she knows better...[/QUOTE]Hi,
I'm also travelling to Bangkok on a tight schedule. Please share good option tht you finalised.
Reading the forum is not helping with the time running out.
This is a late report, this happened a few months ago.
I found myself in BKK visiting a customer. Had to do the meetings, go for dinner etc but I found myself free and single at about 9. 30pm one night. I had done a bit of research and was looking to pick up a freelancer and as Nana Plaza was not too far away I decided to try there. I had heard that the place closed at about 11ish but thought I would try the NANA disco.
Nana Disco.
Under the Nana hotel, looks like you are walking in to an underground car park. It was free entry and a lot smaller than I expected. There were maybe 30 people in there. 10-15 punters and 15-20 girls, all working. Quality and age ranged quite a lot, I remember two nice girls, one very dark skinned, very tight jean hot pants and one older lady, late thirties, long white see-through dress. Both had tight bodies and no tits to speak of. I got the eye off most of the girls in there but I was only interest in looking around at first. Just had a few beers and sat at the bar checking the scene. It was good because although the ladies make eye contact now and then there was no pressure, no hard sells and no lady drink request. Just as I was getting in to it, light on and time to leave. I was a bit hacked off at this, expecting to be there till the early hours.
No worries though as outside was buzzing and packed with punters and freelancer. I walked up and down the bars a long the street a few times, even though they were closed you could still buy a beer from the lady stood outside, she just popped in to the bar and returned with a cold beer. After a while I sat on the kerb in the hotel car park, just outside reception. A few ladies approached me but none that sparked any naughty thoughts. They were nice but not slutty enough for me, they just stank of star-fish. Then dark skinned hot-pants from the disco came over. Mentioned she had seen me in the disco and introduced herself as Miss Chocolate. She asked me if I wanted any company, I starred at her tight body for a few seconds and asked her to join me. We had a beer together and after a while I told her straight out that I was looking for a lady for the night that did anal. She asked how big my cock was and then agreed to join me at my hotel. No mention of money.
Taxi back to Hotel, straight up to the room. Started with sexy strip, BBBJ, then she got on cowgirl, wow she was tight. After a few minute she came, I'll never forget her reaching orgasm and saying in a tiny voice with thai accent 'oh, I coming' great. Turned her over for missionary then doggy then doggy on end of bed with me standing on the floor. Tried to push my cock in to her arse but too tight, and no lube, even with the condom. She turned around spat on the dick and it slide in nicely, I did not take my time, I pushed straight in there because I love to hear the ladies gasp as they take one in the arse. Wow, it was tight. Pump for about 10 minutes then shot my load. Off too sleep. Next morning woke up about 10 and went for session two. Just straight sex this time. She wanted to stay longer but I had things to do so at about 11 I went to the room safe and pulled out a 1000 baht and handed it to her, saying it was for her taxi. I was expecting her to complain but she seemed genuinely happy and thanked me.
Great night, Ill never forget her coming and sliding my dick in to her tight arse, all for 25 Euro.
This is a late report, this happened a few months ago.
I found myself in BKK visiting a customer. Had to do the meetings, go for dinner etc but I found myself free and single at about 9. 30pm one night. I had done a bit of research and was looking to pick up a freelancer and as Nana Plaza was not too far away I decided to try there. I had heard that the place closed at about 11ish but thought I would try the NANA disco.
Nana Disco.
Under the Nana hotel, looks like you are walking in to an underground car park. It was free entry and a lot smaller than I expected. There were maybe 30 people in there. 10-15 punters and 15-20 girls, all working. Quality and age ranged quite a lot, I remember two nice girls, one very dark skinned, very tight jean hot pants and one older lady, late thirties, long white see-through dress. Both had tight bodies and no tits to speak of. I got the eye off most of the girls in there but I was only interest in looking around at first. Just had a few beers and sat at the bar checking the scene. It was good because although the ladies make eye contact now and then there was no pressure, no hard sells and no lady drink request. Just as I was getting in to it, light on and time to leave. I was a bit hacked off at this, expecting to be there till the early hours.
No worries though as outside was buzzing and packed with punters and freelancer. I walked up and down the bars a long the street a few times, even though they were closed you could still buy a beer from the lady stood outside, she just popped in to the bar and returned with a cold beer. After a while I sat on the kerb in the hotel car park, just outside reception. A few ladies approached me but none that sparked any naughty thoughts. They were nice but not slutty enough for me, they just stank of star-fish. Then dark skinned hot-pants from the disco came over. Mentioned she had seen me in the disco and introduced herself as Miss Chocolate. She asked me if I wanted any company, I starred at her tight body for a few seconds and asked her to join me. We had a beer together and after a while I told her straight out that I was looking for a lady for the night that did anal. She asked how big my cock was and then agreed to join me at my hotel. No mention of money.
Taxi back to Hotel, straight up to the room. Started with sexy strip, BBBJ, then she got on cowgirl, wow she was tight. After a few minute she came, I'll never forget her reaching orgasm and saying in a tiny voice with thai accent 'oh, I coming' great. Turned her over for missionary then doggy then doggy on end of bed with me standing on the floor. Tried to push my cock in to her arse but too tight, and no lube, even with the condom. She turned around spat on the dick and it slide in nicely, I did not take my time, I pushed straight in there because I love to hear the ladies gasp as they take one in the arse. Wow, it was tight. Pump for about 10 minutes then shot my load. Off too sleep. Next morning woke up about 10 and went for session two. Just straight sex this time. She wanted to stay longer but I had things to do so at about 11 I went to the room safe and pulled out a 1000 baht and handed it to her, saying it was for her taxi. I was expecting her to complain but she seemed genuinely happy and thanked me.
Great night, Ill never forget her coming and sliding my dick in to her tight arse, all for 25 Euro.What a nice report. Reminds me of the grand days of Nana Disco 10 plus years ago. Take a girl, usually great service, no mention of money, and pleased with 1k baht.
Sir Lancelot
06-26-13, 17:17
I was there but I forgot which ones were full nude other then Suzy wongs. Lets make a list of them from soi cowboy and NEP. Lets make a list if at least 10 so we have options.Quite a few places are either topless or knickerless but not too many are completely naked. Suzie Wong's yes but upstairs at Dollhouse is the only other I can think of. It's quite small though with just four girls dancing on four rounds tables. Billboard in Nana Plaza is an interesting place. It has a circular stage on which you can watch various dances and performances and there is a large Jacuzzi to the right of the entrance where I saw four young girls completely naked, only bubble bath to cover their modesty. They looked very fresh to the business. Spanky's has a shower too, so complete nudity there. Loads of topless places of course (Baccara upstairs, Mandarin, the left stage at Rainbow 4 etc). Pattaya has more topless bars and more complete nudity too, with lots of bars having showers or Jacuzzis. Best of all, it's not just the less pretty girls who you see naked. I saw a great girl completely naked in Airport and another honey in Baby Dolls.
Yes I know newbie with his 1st post.
...
Reading the forum is not helping with the time running out.
Now if I've ever read a single lazyassed demanding post, that is the one. Next time ask if you can borrow other's dick as you need to save your to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) perhaps?
=PinkPearl; 1438502]The girl I saw had another name, the biggest rack I've ever seen in LOS (including magazines & online websites) & was drop dead beautifulWhere can I find such a lass, please?
NeverGetsOld
06-26-13, 20:14
I think there may be some cheap, sketchy freelancers here late at night.
Has anyone had a first hand experience with this?
I think there may be some cheap, sketchy freelancers here late at night.
Has anyone had a first hand experience with this?You might get a bit of anything there, maybe recognizable, maybe not. So use a bit of caution when approaching some ladies as they might come out with a different set up when in the hotel room. AIf that is not your preference you will be very disappointed then!
Paul Kausch
06-27-13, 01:58
Quite a few places are either topless or knickerless but not too many are completely naked. Suzie Wong's yes but upstairs at Dollhouse is the only other I can think of. It's quite small though with just four girls dancing on four rounds tables. Billboard in Nana Plaza is an interesting place. It has a circular stage on which you can watch various dances and performances and there is a large Jacuzzi to the right of the entrance where I saw four young girls completely naked, only bubble bath to cover their modesty...I've read a number of ISG posts that state complete nudity is rare. I was at NEP and Soi Cowboy a few times early last December. The bars I remember entering were Baccarra, Tilac, Rainbow 1 & 4, Las Vegas, Billboard, Mercury, Spanky's, Angelwitch and Pretty Lady. In addition to these I stopped in at about half a dozen other places but cannot recall which ones they were. I'd estimate two-thirds of the ladies I saw were completely nude. In some bars every girl was fully nude (for example Spanky's) ; in others about half were nude and half were topless. Off hand I don't recall any that did not have at least a few girls dancing fully nude. Often the girls would start with a bikini bottom, which they would remove after a few minutes. This was consistent with what I observed in past years, going back as far as the early 2000's. I don't know why my experiences differ from what other members report. Perhaps it's because the owners try to push the limits and pull back when they get pressure from the authorities. I was just lucky to visit when the owners felt bold.
Where can I find such a lass, please?Here's one,
http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/ths/3895772044.html
Hotman 666
06-27-13, 08:43
I think there may be some cheap, sketchy freelancers here late at night.
Has anyone had a first hand experience with this?There ARE hookers there (on the East side of the park) but most are for car pick ups and for rather "short time" encounters!
Most seem to cater for the local Thai guys for a "quickie" and reasonable English is not widely spoken.
I have passed there MANY times and, despite looking, have never found anything interesting for me. YMMV.
Hotman.
NeverGetsOld
06-27-13, 09:06
There ARE hookers there (on the East side of the park) but most are for car pick ups and for rather "short time" encounters!
Most seem to cater for the local Thai guys for a "quickie" and reasonable English is not widely spoken.
I have passed there MANY times and, despite looking, have never found anything interesting for me. YMMV.
Hotman.Fascinating. Maybe I will learn a few Thai words and come guns blazing with 2 crisp 100 baht bills and see if I can make some magic and have one of these heathens levitate on my ding dong.
Dash Riprock
06-27-13, 16:09
Lumpini is flat out scary. To each his own.
:-o
Lumpini is flat out scary. To each his own.
:-oDo you remember the Lou Reed song "walk on the wild side"? Might be appropriate. Good thing is that Thais don't have much hair on their skin, so some of them do not require much shaving.
Pinaypounder
06-28-13, 02:41
Arrived last night so horny I could spit cum. Took forever to get to town, got to Nana NO ONE THERE, my god I have never seen so few people here.
Sat in Rainbow 4 and chose a gal with a nice Rack, Ka# 99. Things seemed good, negotiated 3000 baht for long time no bar fine.
Did everything right fed her bought a dress my fetish and took her home.
Great body average face
NO Blow job without condom.
NO eating pussy.
1 round, it was a long one she enjoyed it and came several times, no more sex no sex in the am, it was fucking terrible.
I gave her 2000 and kicked her ass to the curb.
Today will be better!
PP
NeverGetsOld
06-28-13, 03:05
arrived last night so horny i could spit cum. took forever to get to town, got to nana no one there, my god i have never seen so few people here.
sat in rainbow 4 and chose a gal with a nice rack, ka# 99. things seemed good, negotiated 3000 baht for long time no bar fine.
did everything right fed her bought a dress my fetish and took her home.
great body average face
no blow job without condom..unfortunate but very well played. gogo girls are the worst. too many guys giving them 2000 baht for 10 to 40 mins of nothing.
after some initial similar experiences to you, i now get rapey and forceful.
i am at least 10 for 10 with this.
it's so fucked up and would not recommend it but as much as they fight, i get my way and they start moaning.
Arrived last night so horny I could spit cum. Took forever to get to town, got to Nana NO ONE THERE, my god I have never seen so few people here.
Sat in Rainbow 4 and chose a gal with a nice Rack, Ka# 99. Things seemed good, negotiated 3000 baht for long time no bar fine.
Did everything right fed her bought a dress my fetish and took her home.
Great body average face
NO Blow job without condom.
NO eating pussy.
1 round, it was a long one she enjoyed it and came several times, no more sex no sex in the am, it was fucking terrible.
I gave her 2000 and kicked her ass to the curb.
Today will be better!
PPWould have called the session off when there was no BBBJ. And sent her out the door with 100 baht.
Sat in Rainbow 4 and chose a gal with a nice Rack, Ka# 99. Things seemed good, negotiated 3000 baht for long time no bar fine.How the hell did you not pay a bar fine for a Rainbow 4 girl? I've never had that.
I recommend you read the Forum, and not be lazy, also pay the $20 membership fee.
What does paying the fee have to do with anything. I have in the past.
I've gone over several pages but have not found good detailed posting as there used to be in the past.The real issue is that this thread has no FAQ posting.
The same questions come up time after time. The long time thread squatters here get tired reading the same old requests and blame it on the poster for not doing their homework. Those who are tired of those same old questions are just as lazy for not putting energy into a community FAQ than those they accuse for not doing their homework.
Yes, posts get buried quickly around this place; it is a fact of life. New people to the thread will always materialize, looking for the same beginner kind of information. People got to get used to both ends, get grouchy, or get lost. Most here know the category they sit.
And by the way, paying the $20 still won't get you a fast path to the information you ask about. Lets be careful though not to diminish the good cause the money goes to which is to support the infrastructure for us to share the information related to this fine hobby.
Nana Plaza now has three go-go bars open for daytime action (from 1pm) with reduced alcohol prices. Cute girl standing in front of the plaza passing out these flyers but she didn't know if daytime BF and lady fees were reduced.
The real issue is that this thread has no FAQ posting.What about the RoD, Report of Distinctions? There one cn have a lot of information, concentrated in few and selected posts.
FAQ is part of an informative and commercial website, not a foru,
Indeed you have a FAQ here, and serves the purposes to help the people to use ISG. This shows what a FAQ is and can't be whata you mean.
A forum represents the particiaptiona nd contribution, debates and commentsfrom different people. It is not a commercial portal.
Either one participates, follows, reads, contributes more or less regularly, and gets all the information, day by day.
Or accepts the concept to have to RTFF.
Members and participants here are not here on voluntarily or paid basis to act a call center answering questions.
Legitimate questions come out and are looked after, maybe after 1 day. 2 hors, one week.
So those coming here two hours before taking a plane wishing to have all their specific answers (and most of them already available pages before) are using ISG in the wrong way.
They might be some of those bothered to read 250 pages of a book and jump to the last 2 pages to know who the murderer is. Can do that, but there is no thrill anymore to build up your own opinion page after page.
Now I have nose running and fever 38 last night, maybe nothing serious, I just think it is from getting wet due to rain and then getting cold with air con. Hopefully painkillers and rest help.Not possible to get sick from being wet and turning the ac on yourself. You have to pick up or introduce the bug to your body someway. Colds / viruses just don't magically appear by chilling yourself after being a little wet.
What about the RoD, Report of Distinctions? There one cn have a lot of information, concentrated in few and selected posts.The RoDs are a potpourri of trip reports and personal experiences without any sense of informational organization. I am taking about a fast path to the most often asked questions by nubies. It should be anchored at the top of this thread.
If you don't like calling it a FAQ, give it anaother name then. Fact is, there is little here to make things easy on the newcommer without trying to tell them to look all over hell and spend tons of hours finding answers. It is no secret the search capability here sucks. I myself have to do special things via google which works far better.
There is absolutely no good reason why questions like: 1) What are the recommended girl friendly hotels to stay in close to area xyz? Can't be anchored with all the other surrounding popular questions in its own consolidated list at the top of the form. It is all about organizational laziness and somebody not wanting to tackle the issue and put some time into it. Coming up with excuses not to do it is again, just being lazy. Until then, we will suffer through the same old stuff till judgement day arrives. If I had time for it I would, like I have on other sites. But I just don't have the time anymore. Hell, I just finished reading the last 20 pages from when I was here last, suffereing though all those painfull Harrold posts. I just don't have the time to be here consistantly.
i thought this would not be a place i would go because of the pic forum. but, after ready some funny shit like "i get rapey and forceful" i have to visit!
Tony Hoeprano
06-28-13, 08:40
Would have called the session off when there was no BBBJ. And sent her out the door with 100 baht.Yep, I'd rather just beat off for free than pay for a crappy BJ w / condom. Fortunately, I've not run across this problem yet, as I think most Thai girls like putting dick in their mouth (provided you practice good hygiene). It can't be worse than some of the stuff they eat off the street vendors
Hahaha . my fresh grounds .Just read yours now. Thanks for the tips re fresh hunting grounds.
Pinaypounder
06-28-13, 12:19
I used to love this place and I mean love it. So this pm I visit the Biergarten. I thought I would try the Pro AM type like I typically favour and see what that held for me.
Take home a nice one 2nd best in the place. Get down to it she has a nice orgasm sweet clean pussy kinda yummy (I am going to stop providing those) start to fuck its good at least this opne stuck her mouth on my dick for a bit. I am hygienic clean and able.
Maybe 12 minutes of fucking and she is whining you take to long why don't you cum. Then stop to much. OH and I got to go. WTF?
Apparently I am hung like an elephant now, lucky me must have happened on the plane I did fall asleep maybe the Penis fairy visited me.
Then for shits and giggles we start talking this average girl has had an Englishman, Swiss and Australian man send her between 60 and 80 k per month for 6 years of her life? That my friend is a FORTUNE here. In North america Families live on that amount per month.
Who does this.
So she leaves I am pissed, just for fun I ask how much,"2000 Baht for less than 1 hour in the room and I did not even finish because of my elephantine penis. 1200 kicked to the fucking CURB. Should have been 500.
Where can I actually have great multiple rounds of sex?
Everything in this town has gone up a great deal.
IT used to be for 1000. 1500 hundred it was non stop shagging with a horny girl.
Please help me!
Looking for a wingman might as well chat seeing I can get laid properly. PM me for my digits.
Pinay Pounder
Pinaypounder
06-28-13, 12:24
How the hell did you not pay a bar fine for a Rainbow 4 girl? I've never had that.It was near 2 am, I waited for a bit and fought off a HUGE lady boy my sphincter was quivering.
I hope the discos contain some horny nurses, there is no one here and still the prices were sky high and literally there is no one here. Even the Tailors are asking for a fortune VOTE WITH YOUR BAHT boys this place is out of control.
PP
I used to love this place and I mean love it. So this pm I visit the Biergarten. I thought I would try the Pro AM type like I typically favour and see what that held for me.
Take home a nice one 2nd best in the place. Get down to it she has a nice orgasm sweet clean pussy kinda yummy (I am going to stop providing those) start to fuck its good at least this opne stuck her mouth on my dick for a bit. I am hygienic clean and able.
Maybe 12 minutes of fucking and she is whining you take to long why don't you cum. Then stop to much. OH and I got to go. WTF?
Apparently I am hung like an elephant now, lucky me must have happened on the plane I did fall asleep maybe the Penis fairy visited me.
Then for shits and giggles we start talking this average girl has had an Englishman, Swiss and Australian man send her between 60 and 80 k per month for 6 years of her life? That my friend is a FORTUNE here. In North america Families live on that amount per month.
Who does this.
So she leaves I am pissed, just for fun I ask how much,"2000 Baht for less than 1 hour in the room and I did not even finish because of my elephantine penis. 1200 kicked to the fucking CURB. Should have been 500.
Where can I actually have great multiple rounds of sex?
Everything in this town has gone up a great deal.
IT used to be for 1000. 1500 hundred it was non stop shagging with a horny girl.
Please help me!
Looking for a wingman might as well chat seeing I can get laid properly. PM me for my digits.
Pinay PounderWelcome to the frustration that all us "old-timers" experience. About the only place to have a good time now is the oilies. Tulip, Mango, Snow White, and Cherry.
I am constantly amazed at what dudes will send these farmer's daughters and what they will pay them for 10-15 min of sex.
Pinaypounder
06-28-13, 13:46
Welcome to the frustration that all us "old-timers" experience. About the only place to have a good time now is the oilies. Tulip, Mango, Snow White, and Cherry.
I am constantly amazed at what dudes will send these farmer's daughters and what they will pay them for 10-15 min of sex.Where are those places please
Bartchamdo
06-28-13, 14:39
The real issue is that this thread has no FAQ posting.
The same questions come up time after time. The long time thread squatters here get tired reading the same old requests and blame it on the poster for not doing their homework. Those who are tired of those same old questions are just as lazy for not putting energy into a community FAQ than those they accuse for not doing their homework.World Travel 69 is an ISG member who has put together very useful lists of info about certain cities. He lists well known brothels and massage parlors, gives addresses, prices typically paid, etc. He is a good model to emulate.
Most of the questions here are perfectly valid. However I believe there is such a thing as a bad question. Occasionally someone asks something so basic they show the person isn't willing to do any research at all.
I do see plenty of valid questions repeated every few months that aren't easy to google or RTFF for. One that keeps coming up is massage parlors near the airport. Another one is what places in Bangkok are open in the morning or afternoon. It would save a lot of people some time to give a FAQ for these.
Then for shits and giggles we start talking this average girl has had an Englishman, Swiss and Australian man send her between 60 and 80 k per month for 6 years of her life? That my friend is a FORTUNE here. In North america Families live on that amount per month.You need to know these girls exaggerate everything. They wish they were getting 60, 000-80, 000 per month. Some very beautiful girls indeed get that. Once I met a girl in beergarten who had a nice car and a condo. Her German bf supports her. He comes once a year for one month. This girl was average but horny. We made nice trips in her car. Apart from some dinner and sightseeing expenses I did not have to pay anything. A girl demanding 2000 for 30 minutes obviously does not have big generous sponsors.
Nana Plaza now has three go-go bars open for daytime action (from 1pm) with reduced alcohol prices. Cute girl standing in front of the plaza passing out these flyers but she didn't know if daytime BF and lady fees were reduced.Unfortunately, what the flyer neglects to mention is that Hollywood has been shut down as it is being converted to Angel Witch 2, Obsessions is a Ladyboy bar and Lollipop is a mixed lady / ladyboy bar! So be careful of afternoon delights.
1 round, it was a long one she enjoyed it and came several times, no more sex no sex in the am, it was fucking terrible.
I gave her 2000 and kicked her ass to the curb.
Today will be better!
So this pm I visit the Biergarten. I thought I would try the Pro AM type like I typically favour and see what that held for me.
Take home a nice one 2nd best in the place. Get down to it she has a nice orgasm.
PPI know, I know you can tell it's the real thing but for most of you out there who no longer believe in Santa Claus they are faking it so that they can make you feel like you are a stud and so that they can go home as soon as possible. Real Orgasms in these parts are rarer than sightings of the Abominable Snowman. If you get a few of these girls together in a social setting, bring up the subject of faking orgasms and how long a man goes and they will soon be rolling on the floor with laughter.
Where are those places pleaseMango- Go our Soi 24 exit of Emporium, cross Soi 24, in the subsoi.
Cherry- Suk Soi 24/1.
Snow White- 10 meter on the left Suk Soi 26.
Tulip- Underneath Thonglor Skytrain station.
Check out the forums on MPs for info.
You need to know these girls exaggerate everything. They wish they were getting 60, 000-80, 000 per month. Some very beautiful girls indeed get that. Once I met a girl in beergarten who had a nice car and a condo. Her German bf supports her. He comes once a year for one month. This girl was average but horny. We made nice trips in her car. Apart from some dinner and sightseeing expenses I did not have to pay anything. A girl demanding 2000 for 30 minutes obviously does not have big generous sponsors.Lots of very average girls are making lots of money from foolish guys overseas. The gals are pros.
Are you doubting this guy 's girl had multiple orgasmes. And refused multiple more in a morning session.
I am just amazed that she didn't tell him how big his penis was and that she preferred old guys to young guys and Farangs to Japanese. The only times these girls climax is when you transfer baht from your pocket to their hand. Thankfully we are not paying for them to climax but ourselves. If I can get the girl to laugh a few times I figure I have done my job.
NicFrenchy
06-29-13, 02:18
Her German bf supports her. He comes once a year for one month.One would really have to be a first class MORON to be paying girls monthly allowances if you live overseas and thinking the girls will go out of the bar of stop fucking around.
I am just amazed that she didn't tell him how big his penis was and that she preferred old guys to young guys and Farangs to Japanese. The only times these girls climax is when you transfer baht from your pocket to their hand. Thankfully we are not paying for them to climax but ourselves.Newbies, read the above quote three times, and don't forget it!
Bad Brains
06-29-13, 03:15
Not possible to get sick from being wet and turning the ac on yourself. You have to pick up or introduce the bug to your body someway. Colds / viruses just don't magically appear by chilling yourself after being a little wet.They do magically appear from hotel air con because of the fungus spores growing in the dirty filters.
Pinaypounder
06-29-13, 03:55
Well my sunny disposition was not yet soiled so I napped and ventured forth into the world of sex for sale. Sat near the entrance of Nana and met a great new mate and chatted for hours watching the ladyboys and some attractive actual women wonder by. Damn there are some fricken smoking ladyboys.
Met a couple of women not plying their wares and ventured forth to a Disco as friends, some amazing dancers there.
Long story short had a freebie with a woman way over my typical weight limit for Asia and it was easily the best fucking I have had for Months, my pelvis is actually sore. I love married women no one really seems to be serving this Market segment I like to tend to it when I can.
This Thai lady fucked for at least 90 minutes funny how that works.
Off to Manila tomorrow where I rarely pay to dine at the Y and the wetness can be measured in gallons!
I wonder what tonight holds?
Pinay Pounder
Pinaypounder
06-29-13, 04:01
Lots of very average girls are making lots of money from foolish guys overseas. The gals are pros.I would debate that there area allot of Farangs that assuage their guilt for past indiscretions by supporting some "poor" LBFM. The lady I was referring to was not rocket scientist and I would not use the term Pro in any way shape or form.
I have had first hand accounts of dozens perhaps hundreds of men just within my chat circles that send these girls money. I can only guess they feel bad but WTF are they thinking. However its their money and on more than one occasion I have tapped that well for them just to maintain the seals on the pussy, use it or lose it!
Bore witness to a group last night partying and no doubt spending some sponsors cash on Tequilas and smokes at the bar where they used to work. If an obvious Bar girl is buying hard liquor rest assured its not her hard earned money being spent.
I could possibly see a fellow supporting a girl he met that was not in the P4P trade as he hoped to become engaged, but supporting a P4P playa, that is laughable, so yes newbies fall in love overpay if you have to here and then forgetabout her when you fly home to your mom or wife.
PP
CuriousGeorge5
06-29-13, 05:50
Heard this is the best place for chicks in BKK so decided to give it a try.
It is tucked away at the back of some hold hotel and upstairs. The place looks like it just opened when I arrived (early afternoon) as it was all still dark.
The girls were in the fish tank. There must have been around 15 girls and only one did anal, which I was a bit surprised about since Thais where the ones willing to go the extra mile.
The girls do vary quite a lot, from tall, short, skinny, chubby. There was no one real standout. However as I was honey, I settled on a skinny girl with A cup tits.
I was guided to a small room with a tub and bench. There the soapy massage began. Usually it goes for 2 hours a session but I didn't have the time for obvious reasons (I wasn't alone).
She is quite petite she was quite funny seeing her slide up and down my chest with her tits. She gave me a BBBJ while in the tub. As soon as I was hard I indicated I wanted to start f*cking her. On with the rubber and away we went.
On the walls were old posters of white girls in little bikinis which was quite funny as you have nudity all around you and yet these girls in the poster had bikini on.
Finished off with CIM. She didn't swallow and spat it out.
Will return next time I'm in BKK.
CG
Wolvenvacht
06-29-13, 08:09
They do magically appear from hotel air con because of the fungus spores growing in the dirty filters.It must be a magical AC-unit that can turn a fungus spore into a cold virus!
Chris Long
06-29-13, 08:37
this review is intended for first time visitors to bangkok who are visiting for the purpose of mongering. vets may not find anything new here but please feel free to add information or correct where i have made mistakes. as a first timer myself i write this in order to shed light on the monger scene for other first times and hopefully provide the kind of information i was looking for before i made my first trip.
bangkok:
the monger district in bangkok is nana along sukhumvit road from soi 2 where you will find anne's soapy, going down to asok where you will find soi cowboy. on soi 4 you will find nana plaza a three story complex of gogo bars and free lancers. you will also find freelancers across the street from nana plaza standing in front of the nana hotel sign and in its parking lot. i will use nana plaza as the center point. exiting nana plaza turn to your right and walk up to the corner, it's just a few paces. that will be sukhumvit cross the street and turn to your right and walk down the street, you will pass soi 7 on your left turning down soi 7 you will find beer garden on your left. here you can find free lancers both day and night. continuing down sukumvit you will next come to soi 7/1 on your left, going down this soi you will find eden club as well as dr. bj which has two establishments on both sides of the street, as well as other beer garden type establishments where you can find p4p. if you continue walking down sukhumvit you will come to asok road a major road crossing sukumvit. you want to cross to the other side of asok, you can either cross at the cross walk or there is a subway entrance and exit on both sides of the street and you can walk under asok. once you are on the other side of asok turn to your left, just a few paces up on your right you will find soi cowboy a narrow alley with gogo bars on both sides of the alley. along the walk from soi 4 going down to asok you will also find freelancers, especially late at night until the wee hours of the morning, you will find a great deal of them in front of and around the therme which is on sukhumvet before you get to asok. during the day time both sides of the sidewalk are filled with venders selling all kinds of clothing and other types of products they completely encompass the side walk. you will also find individuals with grotesquely disfigured and missing limbs grotesquely disfigured bodies and grotesque skin irritations begging for money.
leaving nana plaza turning to your right and going up to suhkumvit, its just a few paces and turning to your left go down to the next block that will be soi 2 turn left on soi 2 go down a few blocks, not many, you will find anne's soapy on the left had side across the street from majestic grand hotel.
if you leave nana plaza on soi 4 and turn left go down a few blocks and you will find soi 6 which runs parallel with sukhumvit turn left on soi 6 and follow it until it goes into what looks like pedestrian shopping center and you will find [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s bj bar on your right.
in front of nana plaza and going all the way down to soi 6 and beyond you will also find beer gardens and free lancers, both day and night.
the street are well marked with street signs that are in a variety of language and the soi number is on all of the street signs so navigation should be easy. i found this area to be safe and quite easy to navigate i walked the described areas at all hours of the day and into the wee hours of the night by myself and felt perfectly safe and believe it is walkable though for some it may be too much to walk.
airport:
i found the airport to be confusing and not well directed as far as signs go but manageable. i was fortunate that i met a former monger, now married to a thai, on my flight. who was spending his first night in nana and offered to let me ride with him in his pre-arranged pick up. i was told by several people including this individual that the best thing to do once you arrive in the airport is go up to the fourth level the departure level and pick up a taxi that has just dropped off a passenger and have them give you a ride, make sure you tell them to use the meter. there is transportation inside the airport at the arrivals section but they are expensive. there are also public taxis available as soon as you exit the airports that are more affordable, but the signs inside the airport directing you to them are not well marked. as a fist timer i also found the airport confusing and not well organized when departing but again manageable.
hotels:
nana hotel, i spent my first two nights in bangkok at nana hotel. i chose this hotel for one reason only, my flight was not supposed to arrive until 2:am it was my first time in bangkok i didn't know the area and i wanted to get a girl on the first night so i figured nana hotel was right in the heart of the action and even ray charles could find pussy there at that time of night. i was advised by many people not to stay there and i have to say they were right. i did not like nana hotel, the hotel staff were very grumpy and not friendly, they do not have free wifi you are allowed a free ˝ hour a day and then you have to pay for it after that. i personally will never stay at nana hotel again, the only good thing i liked about nana hotel is it has a pretty good free breakfast buffet and the checkout time is not until 2pm. the other hotel i stayed at was majestic suites which is on sukhumvit on the corner of sukhumvit and soi 4, you exit the hotel turn to your left and walk five or so paces and you are on the corner of soi 4 turn left on soi 4 and right there will be nana plaza and nana hotel sign with freelancers. in the future i will always choose to stay at the majestic suites, it's cheaper more luxurious has free wifi and in just as good of a location as nana hotel.
nana plaza:
nana plaza is on soi 4 it is three stories of gogo bars, it is directly across the street from nana hotel and easy to find. you will find beer gardens in front of nana plaza and running down the length of soi 4 you will also find freelancers along soi 4 in front of the nana hotel sign in nana hotel parking lot and in nana plaza itself.
soi cowboy:
soi cowboy is a narrow short alley with gogo bars on both sides. it's near the corner of asok and sukhumvit. i was surprised at how small soi cowboy was, it's actually a narrow alley that runs little more than a short city block. i was told there are no freelancers on soi cowboy but did notice women walking around; don't know if they were really freelancers or gogo girls going to or from the gogo bars.
gogo bars:
i found many of the gogo bars to be fun and exciting places to be, many have nude dancers, susie wongs and long gun on soi cowboy and almost all of them have semi to completely naked stage shows which can get pretty explicit with girls going down on each other. some gogo bars cater more to the asian mongers and in many of these gogos prices were much higher and the girls did not seem to pay much attention to the western mongers like myself, but preferred the asian mongers.
personally i found many of the gogo girls to be hot and think the best looking girls can found in the gogo bars.
bj bars:
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was the only bj bar that i visited, walked by both [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and dr bjs several times, the way it works is all of the girls will sit out front of the establishment so as you can walk by and see all of the ladies they have available, that is the ones that are not currently blowing someone. personally i thought the looks of the ladies at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and both of dr bjs places was the same but the prices were better at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s so i always chose to get my blow jobs there. the looks of the girls at the bj bars was in my opinion in the 6 to 7 or 8 range, not bad looking, cute enough to get a blow job from, but the better looking women are in the gogo bars. at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s once you have chosen a girl from outside you go inside and pay the attendant behind the desk and then the girl leads you up stairs, there is a room with small semi couches and curtains that she draws around you. you sit down she gets on her knees and blows you until you cum. if you want full service you just tell the girl and she will either mount you stand up and bend over or you can lay her down on the little sofa. one work of caution, thai food is very hot and spicy, don't take a girl right after she has been eating, her mouth will still have the spices and it will be like sticking your dick in a hot chili pepper.
anne's:
anne's soapy is on soi 2 you walk in go upstairs and momason will show you the fish bowl, a window where all of the girls are sitting behind. often there will be a certain theme of the day in they dress in sexy little outfits depicting the theme. on the first day i went there the theme must have been captain stubbing of the love boat because all of the girls were dressed in these sexy skimpy little ship's captain uniforms. you chose which girl you want she takes you into a room that has a large tub with a mat next to it. the two of you get naked hop in the tub she washes you down then you lay down on the mat. the two of you are both wet and soapy and she will slide her body all over you sit on you and wash you with her pussy, usually she blows you somewhere in this process and tries to make you cum, then the two of you dry off and climb on the massage table and have sex.
prices:
the bar fines i was paying at both nana plaza and soi cowboy was 600 bar fine and 2000 short time 3000 long time to the girl. at anne's soapy price is 2500 [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s price is 800 for a bj and 1200 for full service, i forget what the prices were at dr bjs but one establishment was more than the other and both were higher than [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. the beer gardens in front of nana plaza along soi 4 were charging the same bar fine as the gogo bars 600 and the girls were asking for the same price as the gogo girls 2000 short time and 3000 long time. the freelancers at beer garden on soi 7 i was getting for 1000 short time and did not have to pay a bar fine. freelancers that i picked up on soi 4 in front of the nana hotel sign and along sukhumvit i was paying 1000 short time. stopped into eden club once on soi 7/1 the girls come in and line up there is a line on the wall and the girls on one side of the line will do anal and girls on the other side of the line don't. can't remember what the prices were but the owner (who i was never sure if he was just trying to be joking with some of his comments or was trying to be a real asshole) said the girls only work as teams and you would have to take two. i felt the quality of women was equal in looks to the girls in the bj bars and i didn't want two (been there done that) only wanted one and i felt the price was two high so i never tried eden club.
services:
from my experience and in my opinion the thai girls love to fuck and fuck really, really good. bbbj daty were standard with every girl i was with and received these services from every girl i had, they also dfk. the gogo girls i felt were the best many were really into it and gave me a great fuck. the beer garden girls also did the same. many of the freelancers were good as well, however, i did notice a certain amount of professionalism and business orientation in there services.
money:
everything works in thai bhat, so you will have to exchange your money. there are money exchangers at the airport when you arrive and give a better rate than you will get at a usa airport. the nana hotel will also exchange your money at about the same rate as the airport exchanges. there are also exchanges all along sukhumvit from soi 2 all the way down to asok and they give a very good exchange rate, better than the airport and better than nana hotel. there are plenty of them and they will be easy to find, you should have no problem finding an exchange on sukhumvit that will give you a good rate.
language:
i had no problem communicating every girl i encountered, every girl i had, spoke good english, and just about everyone i dealt with could speak passible english. in my opinion english is the second language and i never had a problem communicating.
lady boys:
there are a few lady boy bars in both nana plaza and soi cowboy. there are lady boys standing in front of nana plaza and standing in front of the nana hotel sign. sometimes there are so many that they push the regular girls from in front of the nana hotel sign and off to the side of the parking lot. personally i had no problem identifying them, some i had to look harder but after about 60 seconds or so i could tell they were a lady boy. they may make a comment or two as you pass to go into nana plaza but i did not find them to be over aggressive and when asked they all admitted though some would try to be playful about it to being lady boys. (i was to find in pattaya that some will lie through their teeth about being a lady boy) personally i would rather see them have their own area away from nana and not be in the heterosexual monger area, this is one area where i would like to see separate but equal.
final thoughts:
i love bangkok, the vibe the energy the women, originally i had planned on checking out bangkok for a few day and then head down to pattaya for the remainder of my trip. e.
xperience bangkok and then mark it off the list and in the future spend all of my time in pattaya. but after being there i think i will always devote a few day to mongering in bangkok on all of my future trips to thailand.
(ps: i have spicer photos that i will share in a couple weeks. i am in rio right now and before i left i cleared anything to erotic off of my computer)
chris
Well my sunny disposition was not yet soiled so I napped and ventured forth into the world of sex for sale. Sat near the entrance of Nana and met a great new mate and chatted for hours watching the ladyboys and some attractive actual women wonder by. Damn there are some fricken smoking ladyboys.
Met a couple of women not plying their wares and ventured forth to a Disco as friends, some amazing dancers there.
Long story short had a freebie with a woman way over my typical weight limit for Asia and it was easily the best fucking I have had for Months, my pelvis is actually sore. I love married women no one really seems to be serving this Market segment I like to tend to it when I can.
This Thai lady fucked for at least 90 minutes funny how that works.
Off to Manila tomorrow where I rarely pay to dine at the Y and the wetness can be measured in gallons!
I wonder what tonight holds?
Pinay PounderWhat disco did you hit?
One would really have to be a first class MORON to be paying girls monthly allowances if you live overseas and thinking the girls will go out of the bar of stop fucking around.Agreed. I have never even considered this, although I have been asked to support several ladies over the years (politely declining, of course). I did discover a few years ago that one of my friends was kind of supporting a lady. Well, he was sending her $400 per month. When I asked him why the fuck he was being such a dipshit, he explained it to me. Here is (roughly) his explanation.
One of the beautiful things about LOS is that ladies abound. There are so many girls: tall girls, short girls, chubby girls, skinny girls, dark-skinned, light-skinned, thick-legged, skinny-legged, round-assed, flat-assed, etc. Then there are expensive girls, cheap girls, those that are cheap on the first night and then get progressively more expensive, and those that start out expensive and then get cheaper as you go along. And then there are girls who will give you a great BBBJ, those who CIM, those who do anal, those who do whatever, and those who don't. The point is that you have to hit pussy after pussy trying them all out, and more often than not, there is something missing. You don't quite have the Aha-experience except on very few occasions. So when you do get that revelation, the inspirational experience, you want to repeat it. And then repeat again, etc. You just don't want to have to spend the money and energy bedding the losers again. Why would you if you have a superb girl already identified?
And then it is time to go home. And you know that once you leave, you will lose touch with the girl, and when you come back, you will need to sift through the entire haystack again to find the one needle in there. So you decide to pay the girl something small to keep her interested in you. The money is a way to keep her on a leash, but you know full well that she will continue to ply her trade. You do not expect her to become celibate on $400 per month (or even $10, 000 per month). All you expect is her to email you, and be ready for your return. When you do return to LOS, you let her know you are coming, and voila. She materializes at your hotel and you get that same fantastic sex that you remember from your last visit.
At least that was his theory. I tell you this because sometimes we tend to think that guys who support ladies are being irrational and stupid. But they (at least some of them) have a reason for this strange action, even though it is not a wise course of action.
So in reality, things did not work out according to his theory. He was paying her $400 per month, and then suddenly mama and papa got sick and she needed a little more money. So one month he sent her $600. That was good, but mama and papa are still in hospital, so the next month he sent her $800, and told her that was the last upped payment she will get. Ok. 3 months pass by and she gets her regular $400, but then she herself got sick and needed to go to hospital. $800 out the window.
Eventually he returned and expected to be greeted like a returning hero. He got some pretty good boinking on the first night, he tells me, but then it went south quickly. He wanted to screw lots of different women, but he had unwittingly cornered himself into a monogamous relationship. A monogamous relationship with a gogo dancer! She refused to let him see other girls, and he did not know what to do.
So he skyped me and asked me what the fuck he should do. I told him to ditch the girl and set his manhood free. Unfurl your libido and do what comes naturally: to fuck lots of mediocre women. Exactly what he was trying to avoid by paying this girl money each month.
I'm not claiming all the guys who support women are doing it for this reason, but this is one case. It was a mistake, as I told him at the time, and he now regrets ever having done that, so let's be clear: don't support the ladies from afar, unless you plan to actually marry the girl someday.
And as an aside, he told me that one night he was talking to one of his girl's friends who remarked that she was very impressed that he was sending her 30, 000 baht per month. He didn't say anything, but then asked his girl about it, and she sheepishly admitted that she had exaggerated to her girlfriend. So yes, these girls amplify what they are getting from sponsors because it boosts their reputation as a major money-getter.
Not possible to get sick from being wet and turning the ac on yourself. You have to pick up or introduce the bug to your body someway. Colds / viruses just don't magically appear by chilling yourself after being a little wet.True enough but there are numerous viruses in our body all the time but they cannot activate because our defense mechanisms take care of them but when we get wet / cold our resistance goes down a bit and the viruses can activate and you get sick. Just go to skytrain during rush hour and try to imagine how many bugs there are around and all the people holding same handles etc. Maybe should start wearing mask?
Agreed. I have never even considered this, although I have been asked to support several ladies over the years (politely declining, of course). I did discover a few years ago that one of my friends was kind of supporting a lady.Your story seems to tell that (horror horror, price police on alert!) It is better and cheaper to pay 5000 for a LT if and when you need a LT, than becoming a regular customer of your local WU branch.
Somehow that guy sent a huge amount of a few hundred bucks for a couple of LT's.
NicFrenchy
06-29-13, 12:23
And then it is time to go home. And you know that once you leave, you will lose touch with the girl, and when you come back, you will need to sift through the entire haystack again to find the one needle in there. So you decide to pay the girl something small to keep her interested in you. The money is a way to keep her on a leash,Your Friend developped a completely Moronic approach to this whole thing and convinced himself it was "ok", probably because the BG told him so.
In any case, for every wise ISG member, there are about 25 dumbfucks that just don't know no better and can't invest the time to do some research. Well, too bad for them.
We expats love to get freebies from the sponsored girlfriends LOL
i am just amazed that she didn't tell him how big his penis was and that she preferred old guys to young guys and farangs to japanese. the only times these girls climax is when you transfer baht from your pocket to their hand. thankfully we are not paying for them to climax but ourselves.
newbies, read the above quote three times, and don't forget it!none of us are totally immune to this stuff even if we feel we have been here much longer than should be legal. you walk down soi 4 and some girl calls out "handsome man" to you and a small part of you appreciates it even if you know it's just a business card she is delivering verbally. it's certainly better then her calling out "hey over the hill guy" or "try exercising some time" or "when was the last time you saw your own dick". so it pleases us. so does all that other stuff even when we should know better. we are human and we need our egos fed from time to time. that is why many of us are here. sure it's the sex but it's also the ego which shrivels up like a dried out grape back home where few of us turn many heads and often feel invisible to anyone under 40. so enjoy the faked orgasms like a puffed up peacock and the small well practiced compliments thrown your way like loose change but we just have to keep it in perspective and keep it real. don't follow alice down the rabbit hole or you may have trouble coming back out. i've seen that more than a few times.
none of us are totally immune to this stuff even if we feel we have been here much longer than should be legal. you walk down soi 4 and some girl calls out "handsome man" to you and a small part of you appreciates it even if you know it's just a business card she is delivering verbally. it's certainly better then her calling out "hey over the hill guy" or "try exercising some time" or "when was the last time you saw your own dick". so it pleases us. so does all that other stuff even when we should know better. we are human and we need our egos fed from time to time. that is why many of us are here. sure it's the sex but it's also the ego which shrivels up like a dried out grape back home where few of us turn many heads and often feel invisible to anyone under 40. so enjoy the faked orgasms like a puffed up peacock and the small well practiced compliments thrown your way like loose change but we just have to keep it in perspective and keep it real. don't follow alice down the rabbit hole or you may have trouble coming back out. i've seen that more than a few times.you captured that well. i couldn't agree more.
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The point is that you have to hit pussy after pussy trying them all out, and more often than not, there is something missing.Concisely put, a true fact that we all have to face all the time.
I'm not claiming all the guys who support women are doing it for this reason, but this is one case. It was a mistake, as I told him at the time, and he now regrets ever having done that, so let's be clear: don't support the ladies from afar, unless you plan to actually marry the girl someday.I don't see much wrong in supporting a working girl if the terms are reasonable under all aspects (keep things in control and be more in country than out) ; I do see much more risk for disaster in marrying one.
Member #4698
06-29-13, 16:14
The point is that you have to hit pussy after pussy trying them all out, and more often than not, there is something missing. You don't quite have the Aha-experience except on very few occasions. So when you do get that revelation, the inspirational experience, you want to repeat it. And then repeat again, etc. You just don't want to have to spend the money and energy bedding the losers again. Why would you if you have a superb girl already identified?
And then it is time to go home. And you know that once you leave, you will lose touch with the girl, and when you come back, you will need to sift through the entire haystack again to find the one needle in there. So you decide to pay the girl something small to keep her interested in you. The money is a way to keep her on a leash, but you know full well that she will continue to ply her trade. You do not expect her to become celibate on $400 per month (or even $10, 000 per month). All you expect is her to email you, and be ready for your return. When you do return to LOS, you let her know you are coming, and voila. She materializes at your hotel and you get that same fantastic sex that you remember from your last visit.Wrong! You don't need a retainer fee in order to stay in touch with a working girl or to see her again when you return to Asia. Any smart quality pro girl will want to keep the links alive to make sure they see you again. It's to their advantage to have regular recurring customers or an 'American' BF as my BKK favorite refers to me. I hear from my favorite girls all the time on a regular basis. It averages out to 3 or 4 times a month per girl. Let's see: I have my favorite BKK Go Go girl, known her for 4. 5 years now; my Pattaya agency Go Go hottie, known her for 2. 5 years; and a sweet young AC bar girl, added her to my favorite's list this March. They all send me photos, text me to tell me how much they miss me, ask what I am up to, and ask when I am coming back. Yada, Yada, Yada. If any of them asked for a remittance I would break it off.
Just treat your favorite girls nice when you are with them, be generous, a good lover, and have a good time together. If the girl has quality and your relationship is better than her average then that's all that is needed. My problem is not losing sight of my girls; it is reserving enough time to meet new girls. I like a mix of old and new. I do not want to be tied down to just one girl no matter how great she is or how much I like her. That's what I call monogamy.
Wrong! You don't need a retainer fee in order to stay in touch with a working girl or to see her again when you return to Asia.
Just treat your favorite girls nice when you are with them, be generous, a good lover, and have a good time together. If the girl has quality and your relationship is better than her average then that's all that is needed. My problem is not losing sight of my girls; it is reserving enough time to meet new girls. I like a mix of old and new. I do not want to be tied down to just one girl no matter how great she is or how much I like her. That's what I call monogamy.Makes sense to pay them for their time with you, not for their "loyalty". Even more of that loyalty is uncontrollable.
Wrong! You don't need a retainer fee in order to stay in touch with a working girl or to see her again when you return to Asia. Any quality pro girl will want to keep the links alive to make sure they see you again. It's to their advantage to have regular recurring customers or an 'American' BF as my BKK favorite refers to me. I hear from my favorite girls all the time on a regular basis that averages out to a couple times a month. Let's see: I have my favorite BKK Go Go girl, known her for 4. 5 years now; my Pattaya agency Go Go hottie, known her for 2. 5 years; and a sweet young AC bar girl, added her to my favorite's list this March. They all send me photos, text me to tell me how much they miss me, ask what I am up to, and ask when I am coming back. Yada, Yada, Yada. If any of them asked for a remittance I would break it off.
Just treat your favorite girls nice when you are with them, be generous, a good lover, and have a good time together. If the girl has quality and your relationship is better than her average then that's all that is needed. My problem is not losing sight of my girls; it is reserving enough time to meet new girls. I like a mix of old and new. I do not want to be tied down to just one girl no matter how great she is or how much I like her. That's what I call monogamy.Correct, so in fact we're talking about two different things, one is supporting a ex-working girl within a supposedly monogamous relationshion in "BF" status, and another is keeping a friendly relationship as repeated customer. Is not that one is better than the other, to each one his own choice. The mess starts when there is mixup of things.
Mr Enternational
06-29-13, 17:02
Wrong! You don't need a retainer fee in order to stay in touch with a working girl or to see her again when you return to Asia. Any smart quality pro girl will want to keep the links alive to make sure they see you again. It's to their advantage to have regular recurring customers or an 'American' BF as my BKK favorite refers to me.When you don't send them money they have something to look forward to on your next visit. If you are constantly sending them money (too much of a good thing) what do they have to look forward to then? You pouncing up and down on them for a few minutes?
Sir Lancelot
06-29-13, 21:50
This review is intended for first time visitors to Bangkok who are visiting for the purpose of Mongering. Vets may not find anything new here but please feel free to add information or correct where I have made mistakes. As a first timer myself I write this in order to shed light on the monger scene for other first times and hopefully provide the kind of information I was looking for before I made my first trip.First things first, excellent report. I think this forum has plenty of great advice for 'vets' but you've provided a nice overview for first-timers who might be planning a trip to Bangkok. Some cute girls too in your pics.
Regarding Edens, it is certainly not the place to go for pretty young girls and it is not cheap either. Last two times I went there it cost 3600 baht but the prices may have risen now. However what you do get is a porn-style threesome with two girls who know how to please. I've been twice and first time I got lucky with two reasonably pretty youngish girls but second time I got two older girls. You get to have multiple pops with both girls for two hours and it's pretty much anything goes (especially if you pick girls from the anal side of the line). The standout moment for me was one girl giving me a blowjob while being fucked by the other with a strap-on. The bed is surrounded by mirrors, including one on the ceiling, so you get a great view. Pattaya has a similar place to Edens with an almost identical set-up (threesome, similar price, similar rooms 2 hours etc). It's called Devil's Den and the girls are prettier in my opinion (the girls can also be pre-booked on their website).
I know these places are pricy but I'd recommend them to anyone who hasn't tried a threesome before. Threesomes can be quite easy to come by in Asia but quite often it's not really a threesome at all, it's just fucking one girl after another. A trip to Edens or Devil's Den is guaranteed to live long in the memory.
Where are those places pleaseThis will help you find it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSUTUDmN0VE
Where are those places pleaseHttp://www.snowwhitemassage.com/
Does not take long to find them.
All near Skytrain.
Makes sense to pay them for their time with you, not for their "loyalty". Even more of that loyalty is uncontrollable.One of them. I think #2. And I can only paraphrase goes something like you haven't lost you girl, you've only lost your turn <<< So someone help me out here.
One of them. I think #2. And I can only paraphrase goes something like you haven't lost you girl, you've only lost your turn <<< So someone help me out here.A quick shower and she is as good as new!
Nice pics Chris. Especially one girl is truly beautiful with her exotics looks. Funny how Thai / Asians dismiss that completely.
WhipperWhill5
06-30-13, 05:43
This review is intended for first time visitors to Bangkok who are visiting for the purpose of Mongering. Vets may not find anything new here but please feel free to add information or correct where I have made mistakes. As a first timer myself I write this in order to shed light on the monger scene for other first times and hopefully provide the kind of information I was looking for before I made my first trip.Chris, nice report. Did you notice the deaf girls still outside NEP in front of the Nana Hotel sign? They seems to come and go, but I have taken two of them in the past and they were both quite good in bed.
Chris, nice report. Did you notice the deaf girls still outside NEP in front of the Nana Hotel sign? They seems to come and go, but I have taken two of them in the past and they were both quite good in bed.Can be fun, but the Chewbacca noises can be a bit off putting.
I don't see much wrong in supporting a working girl if the terms are reasonable under all aspects (keep things in control and be more in country than out)The danger is even starting down the slippery path. The highway is littered with punters who thought they can keep their situation in context.
Just don't. If you have just finish it.
SunLover
The danger is even starting down the slippery path. The highway is littered with punters who thought they can keep their situation in context.
Just don't. If you have just finish it.In principle, I agree with you, but not everyone can be happy with ho-hopping all the time. What one gets from such a "relationship" is a quite different experience, that could even be unique in a lifetime and very enjoable. Fine, as long one knows that (as everything in life), it will come with bumps and may end on good or bad terms at any time. Yes, I kept an affair going and just recently wrapped it up. Just to be clear, I've not been lied, scammed or deceived and I do not regret nothing of what I did. Money wise, I've spent, and see other people spending, much more, in a shorter time, for much less worthy things.
What I really do not understand is the path of marriage to a Thai (exception perhaps to a very whealty or well connected woman), just to get virtually zero advantage on immigration (a Kafkianesque, costly and humiliating process) , no tangible rights of any kind, while gaining obligations toward her family, assorted burdens, etc, etc.
Altough I understand the perspective changes when there is paternity involved... but that is seriously off-topic here.
Member #4387
06-30-13, 13:42
To clear my pipeline I just wanted a quicky and went to BG. Instantly, when I walk inside their perimeters, I saw this stunning beauty in my sidevishon. Went to her, order myself one SML, and we hit it off. I have pics to follow but not now as I miss my transfercable. Great girl. 23, just waiting for her french BF to pic her up. He arrived when we left, I thought this will be commotion and trouble, but she chose me (he was an old and fat man).
She KY'ed herself in ass so I could slide my normaly sized member inside her. Wow she performed well and recieved a lot of norwegian sperm inside her ass (as I allready have 1 or 2 babysituations going I prefer assfucking as for now).
I rate her a 8 according to my "Hi So" BKK standards. For a BG standard I give her 9, 5 or 10. Wow
Member #4387
06-30-13, 14:14
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1440022]This review is intended for first time visitors to Bangkok who are visiting for the purpose of Mongering. Vets may not find anything new here but please feel free to add information or correct where I have made mistakes. As a first timer myself I write this in order to shed light on the monger scene for other first times and hopefully provide the kind of information I was looking for before I made my first trip.
I have read only your views in how you review BKK in the lower Sukhumvit area. I give you creds up but maby a bit confusing for firsttimers when you start you left and right and right or left from Nana, hehe (only minor detail).
You did good job and thisbis all what the forum is about. Maby you get some "know it alls" trying to educate you and probably tell you pay to much as prises have been rising since 1970, hehe.
Summerising short: BKK extremely cheap for decent pussy, drinks and living also very cheap. But if you are (and I guess you are not) a cheapskate nothing makes you happy pappy.
What I really do not understand is the path of marriage to a Thai (exception perhaps to a very whealty or well connected woman) , just to get virtually zero advantage on immigration (a Kafkianesque, costly and humiliating process) , no tangible rights of any kind, while gaining obligations toward her family, assorted burdens, etc, etc.
Altough I understand the perspective changes when there is paternity involved. But that is seriously off-topic here.Marcos, you make an excellent point here. In most places, when you marry a local and the marriage is legit, you get a pretty easy path to citizenship. Not here. No way. They just don't want foreigners becoming citizens. Very xenophobic at certain levels of society here.
Very xenophobic at certain levels of society here.Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that.
Just to be sure I google searched and it appears that the essence of xenophobia is:
'irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange'
'fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners'
'unreasonably fearful of or hating anyone or anything foreign or strange'
I believe that Thailand is the only country that has never been occupied by a foreign country and the Thais are very patriotic people. In no other country have I heard the name of the country mentioned as often as the Thais' do when saying 'Thai lady'. Everything is Thai lady this and Thai lady that and even spoken by men. After all if you are in Thailand there are effectively no other ladies except Thai ladies. They feel they are somehow special.
I see no evidence of 'fear' or 'hatred' as mentioned in the definitions. I think the Thais just don't value cultural diversity as western nations do. They seem to prefer their own level of cultural preservation.
They don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's OK with us too'
Nothing irrational about that. Just look at many of the expats in BKK (especially lower Suk). When I'm in BKK I barely choose to engage with them either.
Rainbow 1 observation.
That small cocktail waitress gets more action than many of the girls on stage me thinks. 8 visits and I saw her get barfined 2 times. Not high on personality but I guess guys just like her looks. Hard to tell what size tits she has, if any at all. LOL.Is her name nana (yes) and a little on the plump side? If thats the one, then she has natural B size tits but a lousy fuck.
Http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/
Does not take long to find them.
All near Skytrain.Http://snowwhitesoi26.com/
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/
But why don't you take you time to read a little bit:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES
!
After all, that is what the forum is all about. Seek and you will find. Read and you gain knowledge. And then write posts about it.
Tony Hoeprano
06-30-13, 21:06
hmmm, i'm not so sure about that.
just to be sure i google searched and it appears that the essence of xenophobia is:
'irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange'
'fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners'
'unreasonably fearful of or hating anyone or anything foreign or strange'
i believe that thailand is the only country that has never been occupied by a foreign country and the thais are very patriotic people. in no other country have i heard the name of the country mentioned as often as the thais' do when saying 'thai lady'. everything is thai lady this and thai lady that and even spoken by men. after all if you are in thailand there are effectively no other ladies except thai ladies. they feel they are somehow special.
i see no evidence of 'fear' or 'hatred' as mentioned in the definitions. i think the thais just don't value cultural diversity as western nations do. they seem to prefer their own level of cultural preservation.
they don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's ok with us too'
nothing irrational about that. just look at many of the expats in bkk (especially lower suk). when i'm in bkk i barely choose to engage with them either.i agree, i don't really find these people xenophobic at all, they enjoy western music, food, and movies. a gal i had lunch with said that 20 years ago most normal thai girls wouldn't consider dating foreigners, fearing their peers would think they were a working girl, of course times are changing now, but i can't find that necessarily an irrational fear from their standpoint.
btw, japan occupied thailand in ww2
They don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's OK with us too'It is not even "You can stay". Is it "You can stay under the provisions of illogical, complicated and inconsistently issued Visa types, which requirements and expirations often change for the worst, accept our absurd discriminating laws that prohibit foreigners from owning land or real estate, hold majority in a company, work except as an employee where 4 Thais for each foreigner are employed, be excluded from many types of work, accept to be a 2nd class person in all and any issue, example a legal process, be happy with the widespread corruption and injustice". And if one is stupid and stubborn enough to take the path of permanent residence (that does NOT automatically entitles to a work permit), or citizenship, (that is currently stalled since 7 like years), be prepared to more humiliation and to renounce your citizenship.
Thailand is one of the most racist, xenophobic, discriminating and ignorant countries of the world. That being said, I personally kind of like to hangout here. It is also enjoying a nice weather right now.
In most places, when you marry a local and the marriage is legit, you get a pretty easy path to citizenship. Not here. No way. They just don't want foreigners becoming citizens.Can you blame them? Surrounded by countries all having been subject to colonial rule, the Thai maintained their Kingdom. They know what they're doing. Xenophobia? No. For that, see Isreal.
Member #4387
07-01-13, 00:43
It is not even "You can stay". Is it "You can stay under the provisions of illogical, complicated and inconsistently issued Visa types, which requirements and expirations often change for the worst, accept our absurd discriminating laws that prohibit foreigners from owning land or real estate, hold majority in a company, work except as an employee where 4 Thais for each foreigner are employed, be excluded from many types of work, accept to be a 2nd class person in all and any issue, example a legal process, be happy with the widespread corruption and injustice". And if one is stupid and stubborn enough to take the path of permanent residence (that does NOT automatically entitles to a work permit) , or citizenship, (that is currently stalled since 7 like years) , be prepared to more humiliation and to renounce your citizenship.
Thailand is one of the most racist, xenophobic, discriminating and ignorant countries of the world. That being said, I personally kind of like to hangout here. It is also enjoying a nice weather right now.I second your report Marcos. The weather is nice and pussy cheap (or free). What more can a man ask for. Welcome to pussyparadise (along with Makati ofcourse).
In principle, I agree with you, but not everyone can be happy with ho-hopping all the time. What one gets from such a "relationship" is a quite different experience, <snip> as long one knows that (as everything in life), it will come with bumps and may end on good or bad terms at any time.Is there anyone with any length of time here who hasn't read already the Stephen Leather books, starting with Private Dancer?
Member #4387
07-01-13, 08:24
So what's the downside of marrying bargirls. I just may have to marry my little dictator. LOL. She says she holding my timeslot open for barfining. LOL. If I marry her I'm sure i'll get a better time.What kind of medication do you use? Not a personal attack, I am only very curious.
So what's the downside of marrying bargirls.Everythng.
She says she holding my timeslot open for barfining. LOL. If I marry her I'm sure i'll get a better time.Good idea. You should marry her quick and scoop her back to the USA I foresee countless years of trouble free wedded bliss ahead for both of you. But I hope this does not curtail your invaluable contributions to this forum.
Regards,
BJ
Is there anyone with any length of time here who hasn't read already the Stephen Leather books, starting with Private Dancer?If not I strongly urge people to read his books and "private dancer" is the perfect introduction. Another of his books I really enjoyed was "Bangkok bob and the missing Mormon". Final recommendation is "The Queen of Patpong" by Timothy Hallinan. Don't even consider "Burnt out in Bangkok" by Tom moon Mullins, it's one of the worst books I have ever read. Normally I pass books on for others to read, this one went straight in the bin!
Regards,
BJ
I went to Mercury in Nana (for those who don't know where it is take the escalator on the right and it is immediately on the right) about four weeks ago and although didn't BF I did talk to a nice lady (No. 69) who ticked all the boxes as far as attitude is concerned. I was there with a friend of mine and after interviewing three ladies he settled on the last one. Anyway we both went back there last night, me with the intention of BF'ing 69. Now comes the funny part. Unusually for a Thai girl she didn't remember us and when we sat down 69 came across and jumped on my friends lap. This made my friend feel very awkward and made me laugh a lot. He protested to her that she should be sitting on my lap to which I responded "mai pen rai".
As it later transpired things turned out good for both of us. After 5 minutes a lovely looking young thing came and sat next to me. We exchanged the usual go-go bar pleasantries, had a couple of drinks and she went up to do her dance stint. At this point my friend asked if I minded him BF'ing number 69, I knew he felt awkward and at the same time could tell by the look in his eyes he was anticipating a good time with her. I respect the fact he was basically asking my permission so assured him I was fine with it. When the girls came down from dancing my friend jumped straight in to arrange the BF. This prompted the lady sat with me to approach the subject. I decided to see if an initial reluctance to commit to a BF might sharpen her interest and it had the desired effect.
I established some ground rules, without making it sound like a stiff business negotiation, along the lines of how long she stayed, DATY, kissing, BBBJ. What I do is not to just "machine gun" questions at the girls but intersperse them with small talk and some humour, if and when possible. So just before 12 we were making the 5 minute taxi ride to my place. She doesn't have an exuberant personality so she was understandably reserved at first but after making her feel relaxed she soon got into the swing of it. The sex was very good and she accepted whichever position I asked for. I especially like the girl on her side with the top leg hitched up towards her chest and she took it like a champ.
Score system. This based on my own opinion and NOT open to anyone else's rating system.
ID: No. 8, name withheld by request.
Age: 23, or so she told me.
Face: 8/10 IMO very pretty appearance even out of the deceiving lighting of the bar.
Body: 7/10 a bit more full bodied than I normally go for.
Ass: 7/10 bigger than I like but still had a nice shape to it.
Legs: 8/10 very nice with thin calf's and wholesome thighs.
Tits: 7/10 C cups but a bit spread out, nice nipples though.
Pussy: 9/10 looked very nice, was tight and shaved.
BBBJ: 8/10 Enthusiastic but no DT. Good vigorous action and was happy to carry on as long as I asked for.
A+: Made it clear this was not being offered. I didn't ask in the bar as it's not really my thing.
Enthusiasm: 8/10 The first time is always different to other times if you decide to repeat.
Clock watching: Not at all.
Blemishes: She has a slight abrasion on her right shoulder due to a bike accident but noting that put me off.
Satisfaction: 8/10 Went to sleep smiling.
WIR: Already planning on it.
I find the attitudes of girls in the smaller bars tends to be better than those of the self perceived super stars who work in the bigger go-go's. A larger quantity of girls attracts more customers which means more BF's. This does not always equate to good service or attitude. There are some lookers in Mercury with some not so hot and a sprinkling of young things too. I would recommend anyone who has not visited this place to give it a try. You may or may not find something to tempt you but you will probably find an enthusiastic companion for ST.
Regards,
BJ
BTW, Japan occupied Thailand in WW2And now Japan (ese) occupy NEP and SC!
Can you blame them? Surrounded by countries all having been subject to colonial rule, the Thai maintained their Kingdom. They know what they're doing. Xenophobia? No. For that, see Isreal.Sure I can blame them. The countries that were colonized (not the place to get into a discussion about why Thailand was not) are rapidly catching up with Thailand and might surpass them due to the ease of doing business and the welcome mat being sat out for foreign businesses and investment, ease of visas, etc. See Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Singapore for starters. Nope, reason is because being truly open requieres a bit more transparency than they are willing to offer here. The "old ways" of doing business just won't cut it.
ASEAN in 2015 will be the real kicker. Read most commentary (by Thais nonetheless) and they will tell you they are not prepared.
BTW, How long have you lived and worked in Thailand?
Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that.
Just to be sure I google searched and it appears that the essence of xenophobia is:
'irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange'
'fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners'
'unreasonably fearful of or hating anyone or anything foreign or strange'
I believe that Thailand is the only country that has never been occupied by a foreign country and the Thais are very patriotic people. In no other country have I heard the name of the country mentioned as often as the Thais' do when saying 'Thai lady'. Everything is Thai lady this and Thai lady that and even spoken by men. After all if you are in Thailand there are effectively no other ladies except Thai ladies. They feel they are somehow special.
I see no evidence of 'fear' or 'hatred' as mentioned in the definitions. I think the Thais just don't value cultural diversity as western nations do. They seem to prefer their own level of cultural preservation.
They don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's OK with us too'
Nothing irrational about that. Just look at many of the expats in BKK (especially lower Suk). When I'm in BKK I barely choose to engage with them either.Try running a business here. Yes, the definition fits. 100. One of the main clues is the work "farang." In your country do you refer to every person that looks unlike you with a word that is not really nice? Probably some do, but I bet it is not 95% like we see here.
Special? I would say they tend to feel superior, well as I said in my original posting, some levels of society.
I find the foreign educated Thais who speak multiple languages to be wonderful, and rarely will you hear the word "farang" come out of their mouths. There are plenty of delightful open minded Thais, but they are in the minority. Foreigners are "tolerated" and always have been. Living here, one must accept that. If you cannot accept it and deal with it, then Thailand is not the place for you.
I think you would be very hard pressed to find many foreigners who have lived here for a decade or more, worked, and speak the language well to agree that Thais are not racist and xenophobic. The longer one is here, the more apparent it becomes, and I think the sentiment is growing not lessening.
If they were not so xenophobic there would be a clear path to citizenship.
Cultural preservation? Have you seen how many older structures have been torn down in BKK to make room for high rise condos?
I'll stick by my original statement.
Is there anyone with any length of time here who hasn't read already the Stephen Leather books, starting with Private Dancer?Books can give some entertrainment and teaching. But I find that my own life gives me even more anyway.
Member #4387
07-01-13, 13:38
I find the foreign educated Thais who speak multiple languages to be wonderful, and rarely will you hear the word "farang" come out of their mouths. There are plenty of delightful open minded Thais, but they are in the minority. Foreigners are "tolerated" and always have been. Living here, one must accept that. If you cannot accept it and deal with it, then Thailand is not the place for you.I give thumbs up here. In my regular fleet of girls I have thaibeauties educated in US, Swiss and UK (also in this short BKK stopover I learned to know one halfbreed educated "norwegian / thai" girl). As a serious mongerer I also like to hang out with educated personell at times. I enjoy the mix from low class 9, 5 BG ladies to rich bitches met at Demo and its like.
I will be soon in BKK (arriving the 7th July). Does anyone knows a couple who like to welcome men or any swinging club in BKK?
If you are such a couple, do not hesitate.
True enough but there are numerous viruses in our body all the time but they cannot activate because our defense mechanisms take care of them but when we get wet / cold our resistance goes down a bit and the viruses can activate and you get sick. Just go to skytrain during rush hour and try to imagine how many bugs there are around and all the people holding same handles etc. Maybe should start wearing mask?I think what you mean by activate, is incubate. The virus either incubates in your body or is killed off, nothing in between.
It is true you can accelerate the incubation period by driving your immune defenses down, getting wet and shivering in front of an AC, but too many people get lost and think the AC caused it. FALSE. The AC only got in the way of your defense mechanism to bring it to the fore front sooner.
Fact is, in this hobby, people drive their immunity down by boozing it up which is probably much more prevalent than than any "being wet / AC causing it" hogwash.
Sure I can blame them.
BTW, How long have you lived and worked in Thailand?Work? What's that?
Eventually, if you spend enough time living in Thailand you'll understand that different countries societies cultures have different ways. Whether you appreciate the differences or not is your problem. We can be well glad things aren't the same everywhere. How boring would that be.
NicFrenchy
07-01-13, 15:33
Is there anyone with any length of time here who hasn't read already the Stephen Leather books, starting with Private Dancer?Been here a decade and have not read any books from that dude. Don't see the point and don't really like Fiction books anyhow.
Who needs to visit a Dr, lots of them on the web. Thanks Drs!
NicFrenchy
07-01-13, 15:36
I believe that Thailand is the only country that has never been occupied by a foreign country and the Thais are very patriotic people.Don't be so sure. During WW2, Japan invaded Thailand from the south and Thais lasted all but a few hours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Thailand
NicFrenchy
07-01-13, 15:56
Try running a business here. Yes, the definition fits. 100. One of the main clues is the work "farang." In your country do you refer to every person that looks unlike you with a word that is not really nice? Probably some do, but I bet it is not 95% like we see here.I don't really agree with you here.
Many of my staff refer to Foreigners as "Farangs" but without being condescending or disrespectful. What would you prefer they say? That they call us by our Countries? (French, German, American?) well the fact of the matter is, they can't tell the difference.
Farangs are usually People with European Ancestry, They call the Japanese "Yippuns", the Indians "India" and Africans "Dam Farang".
Special? I would say they tend to feel superior, well as I said in my original posting, some levels of society.I lived in Austria, and I can tell you the Viennese are far far worse than the Thais. Thais indeed consider themselves to be Cleverer than their asian counterparts.
Foreigners are "tolerated" and always have been. Living here, one must accept that. If you cannot accept it and deal with it, then Thailand is not the place for you.I have lived outside of my country (for work) for 16 years and I can tell you what you said above can apply to all the countries I have been working in. It's not exclusive to Thailand.
I think you would be very hard pressed to find many foreigners who have lived here for a decade or more, worked, and speak the language well to agree that Thais are not racist and xenophobic. The longer one is here, the more apparent it becomes, and I think the sentiment is growing not lessening.Ok, I fit that Foreigner profile but I can assure you thais are not Racist, not in the slightest. They are Xenophobic, yes but they usually discriminate by color and social status, not race.
Thais from the Upper Echelon despise the Tanned people from Villages and Farms whom they call "monkeys" and are pissed off these guys can even vote.
Life is still very good in this country, let's enjoy it while it lasts.
Traveler1234
07-01-13, 16:22
I have lived outside of my country (for work) for 16 years and I can tell you what you said above can apply to all the countries I have been working in. It's not exclusive to Thailand.Absolutely RIGHT ON THE MARK!
Over the past 40 years I've lived and worked in multiple Asian countries. It's the same everywhere. Ever been to Japan to work?
Member #4387
07-01-13, 21:41
Thais are not raciest but very occupied by social standards. Have a few girls considering themself to be HISO girls. They are classy, beauties, work out a lot and have social security often with great paywell work. OMG they talk bad about girls we usually use for monger purposes. They name them lowclass people, prostitutes (even if I not tell them I make use of this segment of girls myself) and lazy crowd (not willing to work other than spreading legs and use some yabayaba).
But I am happy with my asian history as I do great wirh all in a nice mix from lower Beergarden standards to hi more Demo lookalikegirls.
Books can give some entertrainment and teaching. But I find that my own life gives me even more anyway.As they do for everyone, even the illiterate.
FreebieFan
07-02-13, 02:19
Many of my staff refer to Foreigners as "Farangs" but without being condescending or disrespectful. What would you prefer they say? That they call us by our Countries? (French, German, American?) well the fact of the matter is, they can't tell the difference.
I have lived outside of my country (for work) for 16 years and I can tell you what you said above can apply to all the countries I have been working in. It's not exclusive to Thailand.
Lasts.I hear you. 28 years outside my own country, most of them in Asia and I'm still a "foreigner". Personally I hate the term, a much better term would be Non Thai or Non Chinese etc.
Or maybe European, Caucasian. Anyway foreigner is marginally better I suppose than "alien" which according to some immigration forms is what we are.
I lived in HK for 10 years you would think the tailor touts on Nathan Road would tire of asking me every day if I wanted a nice suit. But no." I'm white so I must be a tourist.
Same all over Asia. I'm white so I must be a visitor.
I'm often asked by Filipinas "why are you working outside your own country. Your not Chinese so why you working in China. I politely explain that just as there are 10, 000, 000 Filipinos working outside there own country, I'm doing the same. Blank looks abound.
What does paying the fee have to do with anything. I have in the past.
I've gone over several pages but have not found good detailed posting as there used to be in the past.Paying a fee is about recognizing that there is no such thing as a free lunch, unless one wants to steal it. I take you at your word that you have paid the fee in the past. In which case, with three posts in your history, you've been a lurker par excellence!
The ISG fora are a found of info and somebody's gone to great lengths to make it work and make it available to all of us. If you can afford to monger, all else being equal, you ought to be able to pay for the use of the forum.
As far as detailed info is concerned, the acronym RTFF. Read the frigging forum. Is often used here, and for good reason. IMHO, the Thailand / Singapore / Macau fora have some of the most detailed info, so much so that one barely needs to ask / post any questions. Your inability to glean info is because you did not RTFF sufficiently, not because of the quality of info available.
And BTW, as an aside, popping in to the forum two days before a summer vacation, as some do, once a year is a recipe for failure.
I'm often asked by Filipinas "why are you working outside your own country. Your not Chinese so why you working in China. I politely explain that just as there are 10, 000, 000 Filipinos working outside there own country, I'm doing the same. Blank looks abound.Exactly. Desperate poor Filipinos overseas doing drudge work, you're doing the same. Blank look?
I can assure you thais are not Racist, not in the slightest. They are Xenophobic, yes but they usually discriminate by color and social status, not race.Discriminate by color = racism in its purest expression. Discriminate by social class = classism, that is a not much more acceptable variaton of the above,
Thais from the Upper Echelon despise the Tanned people from Villages and Farms whom they call "monkeys" and are pissed off these guys can even vote.So what are they in the end? Integration and same opportunities supporters, not for sure.
Note: per forum rules we cannot discuss any race-related issues. We are all borderline to an Admin warning.
I am a bit like our friend Skogis (not in the same clas though) that I like to meet girls at the bars rather than the gogos.
I have picked up Spasso (my old fav, but I think too expensive now) , CM2, Q Bar, Insomnia, Climax, Bossy etc etc.
A couple of weeks ago, I hit Levels. Great club and nice vibe about the place.
After a couple of rounds, walked up to 2 girls. One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast) , really fair and hot body and another girl in a black cock-tail. Chit-chat, got them a few drinks, got comfortable, dancing, etc and told the purple one 'let's go'. We just walked out and her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.
Went to the hotel. Great round one. She was willing and giving with equally goodround 2 in the morning. The sex was as good as I have had. Extremely adventurous. She is from the North (not Isaan) but she said that she was from some place near there in the mountains. Her father had a business with tractors etc and she was studying business on Sundays at Bangkok. Not as tall as she looked since she was wearing 3 inch heels.
I sent her off with 4000 since I had a meeting and arranged to meet her for lunch at Paragon. Took her for a nice lunch (covered by company) and some shopping. She came in a lemon green dress and was pretty well ogled by the guys there. Figure to die for.
Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.
- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).
Pros.
- Did not ask me for money although her friend asked me to pay for her.
- Has a simple phone (not a smart phone)
- Dressed decently.
- When we met at Starbucks, she was reading a book rather than chatting with BF's on a smart phone.
Cons.
- Came home with me on the first nite without too much hassle. I am 40, earning well, reasonable shape and looks, dress and smell good but no Tom Cruise.
- How can girl sustain herself in Bangkok without a job and with studies on Sunday?
What is your opinion on this girl? Obviously, I don't mind even if she is P4P since she is super hot and willing to please. But I would treat her a lot differently if she was not.
I am going to bang her again soon but a bit confused. I am an experienced monger but feeling a bit confused by this one.
McM.
P. S. Sorry but I don't take photos.
I like to meet girls at the bars rather than the gogos.,.I have picked up Spasso (my old fav, but I think too expensive now) , CM2, Q Bar, Insomnia, Climax, Bossy etc etc.,.One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast).,.told the purple one 'let's go'. her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.I've been around these joints a lot, albeit several years ago, and I've had similar experiences. In fact, the old routine of the friend doing the ask is nothing new. It serves to do exactly what happened to you: make the whole situation ambiguous, so you don't know if you are in a P4P situation.
.,.I sent her off with 4000.You are obviously a generous man (watch out, you may get flamed by the cheap charlies on this forum. Just ignore them). This is important.
Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.
- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).No question she is in the game, although I doubt she thinks she's in the game. Joints like Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, Climax, etc. Are not frequented by wholesome girls who are just out for some clean fun. They want the sex with the foreigners, and they want the money too. So it is a mixed bag. I've been in perhaps a dozen such situations, two of which elevated into something semi-serious before I broke them off. This definitely has the potential to spin into a clingy situation, if you are not careful. Although perhaps that's what you want. No judgment.
I am going to bang her again soon but a bit confused. I am an experienced monger but feeling a bit confused by this one.I'm about your age too, and probably in the same kind of socioeconomic situation as you, and probably less good looking than you, so I can somewhat relate. My honest evaluation of this girl is that she is looking for a boyfriend who will support her. She's also looking for someone who will look good to her friends, and you presumably fit that bill, since she was with her friends when she took off with you. Put all that together, and you can expect to pay for her shopping, dinners, spending money, and a brand-spanking new smart phone (hey, she obviously needs one). In return, you will get excellent sex and the true privilege of getting skunk eye from every guy who ever sees you with that gorgeous beauty clung to your arm.
I think you can also expect to get some emotional pressure. This one sounds like she likes you, and it sounds like a little bit of courtship going on, which is a dangerous place to be for a monger. If you are 'confused by this one', it means she's getting under your skin, and that probably feels pretty good right about now. Perhaps you need to think about what this is getting you. Is that thrill purely sexual, or is it massaging your ego too? Is it giving you a sense that you are not 40 years old now, but more like in your early 30s? Is it giving you some escapism from a dull life? Whatever the case, my only serious advice is this:
If you have family commitments back home that you are not willing to break, you need to stop and think about this.
Kids? Wife? GF? If they are not expendable, then this might not be what you want to do, because it could very well get ugly. And if you decide this won't be a long term relationship, you need to tell her now, before things get any deeper. It will only get harder to break it off with her as time goes by, so just stop and think about whether you are ready for this. I know you want to walk around the Paragon with her on your arm, and you want to go back to the hotel with this sexy little thing and share bubble baths with her and pretend she is your girlfriend, but the fantasy will end, and when it does, you will have to decide whether you want to keep her long term or ditch her then.
On the other hand, if that is not a concern, and you have the money to burn, then go for it. Such relationships can be thrilling and very satisfying, and definitely waaaaay better than your regular gogo girl ho-hum fare in BKK. I've been in four or five (two from nightclubs, the others from other situations in LOS) , and they have all ended with a tinge of pain, but with positive memories overall.
Absolutely RIGHT ON THE MARK!
Over the past 40 years I've lived and worked in multiple Asian countries. It's the same everywhere. Ever been to Japan to work?Absolutely, no one can compare (negatively that is) to the Japs. Xenophobic, racist, bigots. Truly Hitler's eastern evil twins. Thais are angels by comparison.
I am a bit like our friend Skogis (not in the same clas though) that I like to meet girls at the bars rather than the gogos.
I have picked up Spasso (my old fav, but I think too expensive now) , CM2, Q Bar, Insomnia, Climax, Bossy etc etc.
A couple of weeks ago, I hit Levels. Great club and nice vibe about the place.
After a couple of rounds, walked up to 2 girls. One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast) , really fair and hot body and another girl in a black cock-tail. Chit-chat, got them a few drinks, got comfortable, dancing, etc and told the purple one 'let's go'. We just walked out and her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.
Went to the hotel. Great round one. She was willing and giving with equally goodround 2 in the morning. The sex was as good as I have had. Extremely adventurous. She is from the North (not Isaan) but she said that she was from some place near there in the mountains. Her father had a business with tractors etc and she was studying business on Sundays at Bangkok. Not as tall as she looked since she was wearing 3 inch heels.
I sent her off with 4000 since I had a meeting and arranged to meet her for lunch at Paragon. Took her for a nice lunch (covered by company) and some shopping. She came in a lemon green dress and was pretty well ogled by the guys there. Figure to die for.
Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.
- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).
Pros.
- Did not ask me for money although her friend asked me to pay for her.
- Has a simple phone (not a smart phone)
- Dressed decently.
- When we met at Starbucks, she was reading a book rather than chatting with BF's on a smart phone.
Cons.
- Came home with me on the first nite without too much hassle. I am 40, earning well, reasonable shape and looks, dress and smell good but no Tom Cruise.
- How can girl sustain herself in Bangkok without a job and with studies on Sunday?
What is your opinion on this girl? Obviously, I don't mind even if she is P4P since she is super hot and willing to please. But I would treat her a lot differently if she was not.
I am going to bang her again soon but a bit confused. I am an experienced monger but feeling a bit confused by this one.
McM.
P. S. Sorry but I don't take photos.She is a working girl. Never forget that. Of course she has a job, renting her body. Take that at face value and have fun!
We just walked out and her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.
Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.
- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).I think she is new and not accustomed to being fully in the game yet. Her friend is telling you she is financially tight, needs money, and she is too shy or needs to be more agressive when it comes to the money end of it. This is why the friend made those comments.
She feels like she made it through the first steps, does not mind your company and wants to keep you on the hook as a potiential sugar daddy. This can easily get out of control if you set bad presidents and start giving her money without any sexual contact. So be careful with the steps you take moving forward. If I were you I would start building a stable of girls.
Keep in mind her friends who also hang out at all the listed places will be spying on you and reporting back to her.
NicFrenchy
07-02-13, 16:03
Absolutely, no one can compare (negatively that is) to the Japs. Xenophobic, racist, bigots. Truly Hitler's eastern evil twins. Thais are angels by comparison.Or maybe it's just a Small Dick syndrome, but then again, Koreans have even smaller dicks (according to a report posted some time ago by a member).
Personally, I always have had good relationships (businesswise) with the Japs, but again, they were expats and spoke perfect English. I have a few friends that went to Japan and swore never to return because of how they were treated. I have no desire of visiting Small Dicks Land so I couldn't care less.
Member #4698
07-02-13, 16:27
I have a few friends that went to Japan and swore never to return because of how they were treated. I have no desire of visiting Small [xxx] Land so I couldn't care less.I would love to go to Japan based on my limited experience with a few Japanese girls I have had the pleasure to shag in Hong Kong and Macau. They were great girls and I was blown away by their gracious personalities and good looks, but I know that Tokyo for a western guy without any Japanese language skills and or a Japanese friend present to guide him and open the doors to the Japanese hidden city of women; the trip would be a big, expensive, frustrating waste of monger time.
The Japanese play it close to the vest. They don't like to share what they have and they don't think most westerners are civilized enough to understand their customs and rules. Consequently foreigner keep out is the name of their game in Japan.
I've been around these joints a lot, albeit several years ago, and I've had similar experiences. In fact, the old routine of the friend doing the ask is nothing new. It serves to do exactly what happened to you: make the whole situation ambiguous, so you don't know if you are in a P4P situation.
You are obviously a generous man (watch out, you may get flamed by the cheap charlies on this forum. Just ignore them). This is important.
No question she is in the game, although I doubt she thinks she's in the game. Joints like Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, Climax, etc. Are not frequented by wholesome girls who are just out for some clean fun. They want the sex with the foreigners, and they want the money too. So it is a mixed bag. I've been in perhaps a dozen such situations, two of which elevated into something semi-serious before I broke them off. This definitely has the potential to spin into a clingy situation, if you are not careful. Although perhaps that's what you want. No judgment.
I'm about your age too, and probably in the same kind of socioeconomic situation as you, and probably less good looking than you, so I can somewhat relate. My honest evaluation of this girl is that she is looking for a boyfriend who will support her. She's also looking for someone who will look good to her friends, and you presumably fit that bill, since she was with her friends when she took off with you. Put all that together, and you can expect to pay for her shopping, dinners, spending money, and a brand-spanking new smart phone (hey, she obviously needs one). In return, you will get excellent sex and the true privilege of getting skunk eye from every guy who ever sees you with that gorgeous beauty clung to your arm.
I think you can also expect to get some emotional pressure. This one sounds like she likes you, and it sounds like a little bit of courtship going on, which is a dangerous place to be for a monger. If you are 'confused by this one', it means she's getting under your skin, and that probably feels pretty good right about now. Perhaps you need to think about what this is getting you. Is that thrill purely sexual, or is it massaging your ego too? Is it giving you a sense that you are not 40 years old now, but more like in your early 30s? Is it giving you some escapism from a dull life? Whatever the case, my only serious advice is this:
If you have family commitments back home that you are not willing to break, you need to stop and think about this.
Kids? Wife? GF? If they are not expendable, then this might not be what you want to do, because it could very well get ugly. And if you decide this won't be a long term relationship, you need to tell her now, before things get any deeper. It will only get harder to break it off with her as time goes by, so just stop and think about whether you are ready for this. I know you want to walk around the Paragon with her on your arm, and you want to go back to the hotel with this sexy little thing and share bubble baths with her and pretend she is your girlfriend, but the fantasy will end, and when it does, you will have to decide whether you want to keep her long term or ditch her then.
On the other hand, if that is not a concern, and you have the money to burn, then go for it. Such relationships can be thrilling and very satisfying, and definitely waaaaay better than your regular gogo girl ho-hum fare in BKK. I've been in four or five (two from nightclubs, the others from other situations in LOS) , and they have all ended with a tinge of pain, but with positive memories overall.Well put.
The last 2 paragraphs, especially, are EXCELLENT advice and the OP would do well to read, re-read, re-read again and commit it to heart.
OralWonder
07-02-13, 21:33
Haven't read such a complete and informative report in a while. Well done.Even though I am new to the board, I have to say it was the best trip report I have read to date.
You need only read all the bullshit on price, limitations etc on the Japan thread to find out. I roll my eyes at such content.
I live in Tokyo and prefer to do all my mongerin in other parts of the world. I am due in Manila next week.
When the woman's 40 min timer (Timer she leaves near the bed) is up, its time to close up shop.
I would love to go to Japan based on my limited experience with a few Japanese girls I have had the pleasure to shag in Hong Kong and Macau.You mean the Monolians they try to pass off as Japanese in Familia Nobre?
Member #4698
07-03-13, 02:39
You mean the Mongolians they try to pass off as Japanese in Familia Nobre?Ha! That's funny because I know exactly the faux Japanese girls you are referring to. I saw a couple of them in Nobre this March, the last time I was in Macau. I did not find them very appealing. East Spa had a super model that they claimed was Japanese. I had my doubts about her origin. She just did not look it, but whatever nationality she was, she was gorgeous. She was dressed in a colorful kimono and I swear she was 9*. Her price was 3600hk. I was relieved when a Chinese punter took her, because I was sorely tempted even though I knew it was way too much money.
No, I am talking about real Japanese girls. I haven't been with a lot, only 3, but they were extraordinary and unlike any other Asian girls I have ever been with. Suko, for example below, is a Japanese 141 girl I met in Hong Kong in 2011. There is no mistaking the way she looks nor her personality. Only a Japanese girl could act the way she did in making sure every step of the way she was servicing me well and that I was having a good time. Our little session together was right after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster and Suko was very concerned about her family. It was her last night in HKG and she was heading back to Japan the next day. I saw her passport and plane ticket. I wouldn't say Suko is gorgeous, but I liked the way she looked and her thin firm body. My session with her was not a GFE. It was more like a Geiko - esq experience. I was very lucky to have had her.
So I am kind of gaga over real Japanese girls and want to have more of them. Are there any Japanese board members reading this? I would be up for a tour of the Tokyo red light districts. I wouldn't bother going to Japan without a Japanese wing man by my side. Drop me a line.
Mr Enternational
07-03-13, 03:09
A couple of weeks ago, I hit Levels. Great club and nice vibe about the place.
After a couple of rounds, walked up to 2 girls. One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast) , really fair and hot body and another girl in a black cock-tail. Chit-chat, got them a few drinks, got comfortable, dancing, etc and told the purple one 'let's go'. We just walked out and her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.
I sent her off with 4000 since I had a meeting and arranged to meet her for lunch at Paragon. Took her for a nice lunch (covered by company) and some shopping.
- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).
- Came home with me on the first nite without too much hassle. I am 40, earning well, reasonable shape and looks, dress and smell good but no Tom Cruise.Amazing. You gave her 4000 baht and took her shopping and now you want to know if she is in the game? Well if she wasn't before I'm sure she is now. When you are home and you meet a chick do you give her money the next morning then take her shopping on top of that?
Why is it that you think you need to be Tom Cruise to pick up a chick? She was probably no Angelina Jolie either, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
I would love to go to Japan based on my limited experience with a few Japanese girls I have had the pleasure to shag in Hong Kong and Macau. The Japanese play it close to the vest. They don't like to share what they have and they don't think most westerners are civilized enough to understand their customs and rules. .HK and Macau, Japanese have them trained well. Also in their places in Jakarta. In BKK though the Thai ones working Japanese clients (the usual place) overdo it with the squeeling and sqweeking act. Improper training.
Member #4387
07-03-13, 05:32
Amazing. You gave her 4000 baht and took her shopping and now you want to know if she is in the game? Well if she wasn't before I'm sure she is now. When you are home and you meet a chick do you give her money the next morning then take her shopping on top of that?
Why is it that you think you need to be Tom Cruise to pick up a chick? She was probably no Angelina Jolie either, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?I know relatively many girls like this. We can call them whatever we like but this chick was probably relatively newly introduced to this "game" from her friends and gets tempted for some quick cash. We can not underline enough it is relatively easy money for a girl and almost stupid to say no (most likely her friends tell her it is a nice way to earn some bucks).
Most likely she go with some men from time to time (guys she in a way like and not only "his" money. Even ofcourse money will be a great motivation). This chick is not a hardcore prostitute. Many girls going to Spasso, Q-Bar, Levels and places like that go to have fun and if they see a guy they "like" they go. They work out of their free mind. Other girls I know they will almost not even BTS themself pass Lower Sukhumvit area as they find it to be all in prostitutearea (and from their own work and rep if they were seen around here people would start asking question). So it is a strange life and another thing, atleast if we think the girls have some sort of feelings for a guy. This trip (I am back home again. Crying) I met a few girls beeing so horny so if it was acting (even squirters) well atleast they act extremely good. And when a girl don't want to leave but wants to fuck more and more, well, I think we all can agree she atleast enjoy her "work" to a certain point.
Wait, theres more!
You ever seen or heard anything like this situation mr BJ?
Ever since I made the comment I may not be requiring her services but once a month, she has cut off all access to her nipples. I can't get my fingers in anymore. LOL. I compensate her for it as I do for those who let me have a quick feel. LOL.
That superstar even gives me more than I ask for. She actaully lets me fondle them (one step up from copping a feel). Very good value...H, I have seen, heard of and experienced situations like this one. You are trying to lock the stable door after the horse has bolted. You allowed her to take control of the situation because you made it obvious you were infatuated with her and that is where you made the mistake. Working girls are not intelligent, but they are cunning. If I were in your situation I wouldn't bother telling her anything I would forget her and move onto the next one, even from the same bar if you like. I get the impression you feel indebted to her in some way which is nonsense, you paid for her time under increasing restrictions because you made it clear she could manipulate you. You don't owe her anything.
You say she is making it so hard for you to spend money on her, then stop trying. Problem solved. Thai's in general and working girls in particular operate different sets of logic to Westerner's. For example many exclusively Thai owned companies are superficially judged by the number of employees they have instead of turnover, unit production / labour costs or profit and loss. Consequently many Thai companies, although not all, are deemed to be very successful even though they could operate with 30% less labour and increase profits. My own experience was after helping a bar girl financially who I had known well for a year we had a disagreement about her paying the money back. It was not a large sum of money but there was a principle involved. In the end it boiled down to not seeing eye to eye over 2, 000 baht! The result was she did not want to speak to me ever again? Fine by me. I calculated since this time she has lost around 30, 000 baht in ST payments, plus meals, plus drinks, plus days out. Net loss to her is 28,000 ++, this is a good example of the level of logic these girls operate on. At the end of the day there are a million of her kind for me to choose from, there are not a million of my kind for her to choose from.
If you offered a working girl 1,000 baht here and now or 3,000 baht in ten days time I bet the vast majority would take the 1,000 now. So in summing up I think you got in too deep and she is indisputably taking advantage of you. Fuck her off and learn from the mistakes you have made. In life it is ok to make mistakes but it is what we do about it after the fact that counts.
I doubt she finds you any more disgusting than the majority of her other customers, with the possible exception of the finger in the arse. Don't lose any sleep over her and start giving the forum FR's about the new girls you are banging.
Regards,
BJ
Wolvenvacht
07-03-13, 07:23
On the other hand, if that is not a concern, and you have the money to burn, then go for it. Such relationships can be thrilling and very satisfying, and definitely waaaaay better than your regular gogo girl ho-hum fare in BKK. I've been in four or five (two from nightclubs, the others from other situations in LOS) , and they have all ended with a tinge of pain, but with positive memories overall.That is the reason we pay these girls: so they go away without drama
I know relatively many girls like this. We can call them whatever we like but this chick was probably relatively newly introduced to this "game" from her friends and gets tempted for some quick cash. We can not underline enough it is relatively easy money for a girl and almost stupid to say no (most likely her friends tell her it is a nice way to earn some bucks).No intention to flaming but when a girl gets a high pay for doing nothing (generally 4k is alaready a good rate for a LT, go imagine for a ST) this can only lead to silly expectation or wrong vision of what P4P can be for her.
Add the shoppin opportunity on top and she feels like a queen.
Member #4387
07-03-13, 12:18
No intention to flaming but when a girl gets a high pay for doing nothing (generally 4k is alaready a good rate for a LT, go imagine for a ST) this can only lead to silly expectation or wrong vision of what P4P can be for her.
Add the shoppin opportunity on top and she feels like a queen.Well define doing nothing in these discussed cases? Well it is not for every girl or for girls frequent in all known mongerplaces to recieve this kind of compensation. But if girls operates in a certain way, at certain places and meet certain men I would (and I don't know this and I only speculate and also a few observation on my own) think 4K as a norm in her life is not so far out from reality. I know I can give 4K and more if I fell like (for certain quality girls and maby special service). But as Wolven say we also pay girls to leave without drama.
The 500bht Beachroad Pattaya girl and the debated more "upscale girls" they do the same work (and I don't talk about the luxury model girls they are much much more expensive). But there are miles apart when it comes to how they deliver their goods. Maby some (also my self) pay on the high side and maby also to much for different wrapping of the girls (but inside here it is hard to say what is a correct price as the market regulates it self). As I read inside here most ISG members runs after GoGo girls, MP girls or barfinable girls (nothing wrong about that just not my style) so the risk you meet a girl at Q-Bar is low am I right.
But I will underline that their performance is of great importance. We all have one standard we consider to be the expected one and from this we decide a price (I never give a girl any idea what she will get as there is absolutely no talk about price as I find that to be a turnoff. I like the game to look as normal as possible so chemistry and mutual liking / enjoyment is of great importance). If the performance blows all my expectations in a positive way, then ofcourse I will give some extra for the girl. The extra she would not know as she does not know anything about a price from the start but maby this also will secure the next punter climbing her a decent treatment.
Bartchamdo
07-03-13, 14:06
Bangkok Eyes website recently posted many updated maps of red light areas around Bangkok. There are maps of Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, as well as some less famous areas, like Sukhumwit Soi 7/1 and Soi 22. They'd be very useful for any newbie wanting to get oriented on where the various go gos and such are. They're also useful to experienced mongers as a current snapshot of what businesses are still going.
Traveler1234
07-03-13, 15:23
Bangkok Eyes website recently posted many updated maps of red light areas around Bangkok. There are maps of Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, as well as some less famous areas, like Sukhumwit Soi 7/1 and Soi 22. They'd be very useful for any newbie wanting to get oriented on where the various go gos and such are. They're also useful to experienced mongers as a current snapshot of what businesses are still going.The infamous Mick Licker created some awesome google map[s] a couple of years ago. If you search the ROD thread, back to 2010, you'll find that they're not as out-dated as one might think.
hi everyone,
here's my first diary of my thailand trip.
my plane landed today around noon after a loooong (too long) flight from france. but here i am, it's hot as an oven in here.
took a cab to my hotel (grand president hotel) soi 11, nice hotel, clean and big room, i took a shower and went doing some recon of the neighborhood. on my way to soi 8 (which is right in front soi 11, i couldn't resist and had had to take a look at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, after a 12 hours trip, it couldn't hurt me (it didn't) around 10 girls (most of them were average but found a couple of 8/10, took one, her name was zoé, very nice, always smiling and very friendly, went up and. you know what's next. very good bbbj with cim, i hate when you pay for a bbbj but mostly get hj, fortunately, she did a very good bbbj all the way.
an important thing that i need to emphasize is that i had booked wan wan from mango massage by email at 7.30pm for a two hours outcall. everything was confirmed and as i went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) around 3pm i had plenty of time to rest before the action with her. as i went back to my hotel (right after buying lube at the pharmacy in front of nana plaza) i only had the time to rest a little as someone ring at the door (it was 4. 30) it was wan wan. i was very surprised as i've said (3 times by email that i wanted her to come around 7. 30) anyway i couldn't refused her so i let her in.
it's been the best 3 hours of (mongering) sex of my (short) mongering life. i've never seen a girl (that you pay) that motivated, nice, kind and funny. we took a shower together and we broke the ice by talking about her, discos and random stuff. she's from hisan (not sure about the spelling) and was (to my taste) a 7/10 with a very nice body. she couldn't stop giggling as we were in the shower together. then went the nice part, almost 3 hours of deep kissing, gfe, dfk, vaginal sex, anal sex, bbbj and cim (passionated and not to sloppy). after two pops (+ the 1 at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)) i was exhausted but she wanted more, she came twice as well and was very wet from the beginning to the end. i'm not saying that i did something right (even though i hope so) but she was just very into it. she wouldn't let go of me and wanted some more "boum boum". eventually i told her that i was tired but that i would be happy to see her again. she stayed for another 45 minutes into my room, giggling, talking about that we should go to disco together and so forth (while touching my jonas brother) saying that "it" was tired with a sad face. we exchanged telephone number and she left.
btw. i've looking over wan pictures on mango's website and although she look similar, i'm not 100% sure that it was her. she said her name was wan wan and that she was 27, if anyone had had her in the past, could you confirm?
i paid her 2500 + 200 tips (1000 for mango and 1500 for the girl). some of you may think that i paid too much but the price with mango wasn't negotiable and with the pleasure that she gave me, negotiating with her was out of question.
here's end my first (half) day in bangkok. so far it's been great. will go to pattaya tomorrow, if it looks good i'll stay there for 4 nights, otherwise i will come back to bangkok before.
thanks
I've been around these joints a lot, albeit several years ago, and I've had similar experiences. In fact, the old routine of the friend doing the ask is nothing new. It serves to do exactly what happened to you: make the whole situation ambiguous, so you don't know if you are in a P4P situation.
You are obviously a generous man (watch out, you may get flamed by the cheap charlies on this forum. Just ignore them). This is important.
No question she is in the game, although I doubt she thinks she's in the game. Joints like Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, Climax, etc. Are not frequented by wholesome girls who are just out for some clean fun. They want the sex with the foreigners, and they want the money too. So it is a mixed bag. I've been in perhaps a dozen such situations, two of which elevated into something semi-serious before I broke them off. This definitely has the potential to spin into a clingy situation, if you are not careful. Although perhaps that's what you want. No judgment.
I'm about your age too, and probably in the same kind of socioeconomic situation as you, and probably less good looking than you, so I can somewhat relate. My honest evaluation of this girl is that she is looking for a boyfriend who will support her. She's also looking for someone who will look good to her friends, and you presumably fit that bill, since she was with her friends when she took off with you. Put all that together, and you can expect to pay for her shopping, dinners, spending money, and a brand-spanking new smart phone (hey, she obviously needs one). In return, you will get excellent sex and the true privilege of getting skunk eye from every guy who ever sees you with that gorgeous beauty clung to your arm.
I think you can also expect to get some emotional pressure. This one sounds like she likes you, and it sounds like a little bit of courtship going on, which is a dangerous place to be for a monger. If you are 'confused by this one', it means she's getting under your skin, and that probably feels pretty good right about now. Perhaps you need to think about what this is getting you. Is that thrill purely sexual, or is it massaging your ego too? Is it giving you a sense that you are not 40 years old now, but more like in your early 30s? Is it giving you some escapism from a dull life? Whatever the case, my only serious advice is this:
If you have family commitments back home that you are not willing to break, you need to stop and think about this.
Kids? Wife? GF? If they are not expendable, then this might not be what you want to do, because it could very well get ugly. And if you decide this won't be a long term relationship, you need to tell her now, before things get any deeper. It will only get harder to break it off with her as time goes by, so just stop and think about whether you are ready for this. I know you want to walk around the Paragon with her on your arm, and you want to go back to the hotel with this sexy little thing and share bubble baths with her and pretend she is your girlfriend, but the fantasy will end, and when it does, you will have to decide whether you want to keep her long term or ditch her then.
On the other hand, if that is not a concern, and you have the money to burn, then go for it. Such relationships can be thrilling and very satisfying, and definitely waaaaay better than your regular gogo girl ho-hum fare in BKK. I've been in four or five (two from nightclubs, the others from other situations in LOS) , and they have all ended with a tinge of pain, but with positive memories overall.Hi Kumbu,
Thanks for your words of wisdom. You seem to have gone through exactly what I feel and appreciate your feed-back. Really appreciate it!
In fact, you encapsulated all that I felt in your post. I do have a family and I intend to stay with them but I really am going to meet this chick next time and tell her about the situation. If she still wants to meet me, it should be ok for all. I will pay her when I meet her (no transfers) and that's it.
You last 2 paras are words of wisdom as another poster said and I will do well to follow it.
Regarding payment, it was for long time. I have paid as low as 2000 in Climax and Insomnia but when a girl goes out of her way to please, I would rather overpay than underpay. Too bad, but that's the way I am and USD50 is never going to break my bank. Apologies to those who disagree but I am not going to change.
Cheers,
McM
Best way to find out is don't give her anything!
Hahahahaha!
I thought I was a bad mongerer-I did the unthinkable and fell for a bargirl.
If you are as experienced as you say you are- You know what she is about. Folks I think this guy is pulling a fast one. So many gullible people here! Naughty man!Dude,
You fell for a bargirl which I have never done. I can take this girl out anywhere in Bangkok and people would be looking at me for taking a hot girl (an the I feel good). I can converse well with her in English. The girls I have met in R1-4 and Baccara cannot do that.
No offense man, I enjoy your humor sometimes but I don't care a flying f whether you think I am pulling a fast one or not. Cheers and peace out. Keep going. I take no offense.
McM
I know relatively many girls like this. We can call them whatever we like but this chick was probably relatively newly introduced to this "game" from her friends and gets tempted for some quick cash. We can not underline enough it is relatively easy money for a girl and almost stupid to say no (most likely her friends tell her it is a nice way to earn some bucks).
Most likely she go with some men from time to time (guys she in a way like and not only "his" money. Even ofcourse money will be a great motivation). This chick is not a hardcore prostitute. Many girls going to Spasso, Q-Bar, Levels and places like that go to have fun and if they see a guy they "like" they go. They work out of their free mind. Other girls I know they will almost not even BTS themself pass Lower Sukhumvit area as they find it to be all in prostitutearea (and from their own work and rep if they were seen around here people would start asking question). So it is a strange life and another thing, atleast if we think the girls have some sort of feelings for a guy. This trip (I am back home again. Crying) I met a few girls beeing so horny so if it was acting (even squirters) well atleast they act extremely good. And when a girl don't want to leave but wants to fuck more and more, well, I think we all can agree she atleast enjoy her "work" to a certain point.Skogis,
Thanks. My experience is not as varied as yours but I agree that anytime a girl works hard to please me, I think that she's enjoying a bit of it too. This one turned every DATY to a 69. If she enjoyed it, good for her. I sure did have a great time and will reward her for it.
BTW, I met a girl in Spasso, 'dated' her 4 times without getting past second base and so moved on. Maybe she did not like me ENOUGH to go all the way. We all live and learn.
Cheers,
McM
i have been here for 7 days now and i have 2 more night to go.
the first thibg i did was to try mango and poy i think her name was i saw some good shit about here on isg and she was cute and took it in the ass like a champ i could do her ass in many ways!
recomend her!
she was a little crazy and jumped up on my back 30 seconds after her arrival and started barking like a dog hehe but god fuck!
my hotel is very close to soi cowboy so i have done take away there 5 times thees night and i am satisfied with them all!
for the go-go bars i really recomend shark, baccara and suzi wong.
the girls here are much better looking then i was hoping for and lets say there are about 30 girls working in each club then i think about 7-10 of those are very fuckable and 2-4 are really good looking.
now i like young looking girls in there early twenties so that is what i am talking about when i talk about these 2-4 girls in each club and they have fantastic bodies and really cute / sexy faces.
now i am a european guy in my early 30s and i know o look rather good so in the clubs there are 80% japanese guys.
as you all know the girls like japanese guys but my looks did that i could get any girl i wanted in the clubs so they liked me and the japanese and the rest of the guys did not get much attention.
did not get to fuck any of the bargirls in the ass.
shorttime i paid 2000-3000 and 1 longtime for 4000bth but then she stayed from 23 in the evening to 2 the next day and we had sex 3 times.
i have also tried [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or was it lollipot i am not sure but i got a quick bj for 800bth in a room upstairs on a small sofa behind a curtan.
it was ok for 800bth but no more.
i have visited dr bj 2 times and the first time was whit "w" and she did a nice job trying to make me come it took like 25 minutes but she was good and very cute!
the second time was now tonight and it was with "e" and she fucking deeptroathed 18 of my 20 centimeters cock while she looked at me with her fake glases but she made me cum in maybe 6-8 minutes!
good deeptroath!
i tried to find rajah hotel because i was feeling for a russian girl tonight but did nt find the hotel.
anyone been there?
is it good looking girls or crap?
the russian elena or whats her name is has been siting in the café every day and shuting at me "hello! hello! you want me! i am new girl here!" but i think she looks like a crappy crackho with bad skin so no way i am sticking my dick in her.
over all i love bkk and this is not the last time i am going here!
tomorrow is my last night here don't know what to do yet but if i don't find rajah i guess it will be a last night whit a sexy gitl from soi cowboy i there are many girls there i like do have in my bed. .
cheers to all of you and god bless bkk!
Dextro Sol
07-03-13, 21:20
I have a question about coyotes, I really don't know the difference between gogo's and coyotes. I have contact with a girl from Suzie Wongs and yesterday she said something about a coyote at Suzies who were fighting with her. I was surprised because I didn't know there was coyotes in gogo bars. Please enlighten me about the difference between a dancer and a coyote at a place like SW.
I will be in BKK this weekend and this my first time there. I know July is raining season but is it raining very heavy or moderate?
Thanks
I will be in BKK this weekend and this my first time there. I know July is raining season but is it raining very heavy or moderate?
ThanksYes yes yes
I have a question about coyotes, I really don't know the difference between gogo's and coyotes. I have contact with a girl from Suzie Wongs and yesterday she said something about a coyote at Suzies who were fighting with her. I was surprised because I didn't know there was coyotes in gogo bars. Please enlighten me about the difference between a dancer and a coyote at a place like SW.Coyote girls are not for bar fining. Usually stunning girls, attracting customers to the bar, dancing. They might be available for take out at bar closure but usually very expensive.
I have been here for 7 days now and I have 2 more night to go.
I tried to find Rajah hotel because I was feeling for a Russian girl tonight but did nt find the hotel. Anyone been there?
The Russian Elena or whats her name is has been siting in the café every day and shuting at me "hello! Hello! You want me! I am new girl here!" but I think she looks like a crappy crackho with bad skin so no way I am sticking my dick in her.
Cheers to all of you and god bless BKK!Very good report as it gives newbies a quick round of the place.
Rajah hotel: go to soi and walk past NEP on the right side walk aside the nana car park. Go past a few bars for 100 metres till you see a 7/11 on your right. Turn right into the car park entrance and walk past a couple of bars.
You will soon see the rajah hotel building in your left.
It is the only (huge) building on the left. The lobby entrance has a roof crossing the whole alley to theright building (Annie's doo doo bar). Enter the lobby, look like you are looking for something and surely some pimp will tell you which floor the girls are.
Sometime the girls are out for a smoke, sometime they pop in 7/11 for a quick shopping.
Nice to read that Elena describes herself as fresh from the farm....
I have been in BKK fr 8 days now and it has been raining a total of 2-4 hour maybe.
I will be in BKK this weekend and this my first time there. I know July is raining season but is it raining very heavy or moderate?
Thanks
Pinaypounder
07-04-13, 08:08
So me and my new mate start the evening again sitting near to nana and we realize the average age in this bar is fugly. So we move 1 bard closer to Nana. We start a party anf o have some fun, Tequilas all around and hugging playing etc. Trying to get these girls loose. We even buy momma san a few Tequalis.
We offer 100 baht for each girl that will remove her panties. NONE took us up!
We spent some good cash maybe 20 lady drinks and right after the BAR closes ALL disappear. ALL can't believe that. This is not the way is was it used to be this kind of actions would have led to a great night of group sex.
The name of the Bar starts with an "S" I can't recall it but god damn was that pathetic. When I get the name I will post as I am back Sunday.
So disappointed we head to a disco and W O W. Wall to wall hot chick. 5 minutes hand in hand to my room with an excellent 33 year old no babies big juicy tit momma.
Sex was not world class perhaps my standards are to high but body was.
2000 baht in the AM see you next trip darling.
BKK has changed and it is ALL bad. Newbies be simple and upfront. Yes I will buy you 1 drink and if I buy you 2 HERE ARE MY DEMANDS. I have wasted 4 k baht at least for nothing, not a big deal but that is a 3 some instead of just liver damage!
Be blunt and polite but stop being deceived like I have been. Off to Manila.
PP
BKK has changed and it is ALL bad.Very True!
Dextro Sol
07-04-13, 09:52
Coyote girls are not for bar fining. Usually stunning girls, attracting customers to the bar, dancing. They might be available for take out at bar closure but usually very expensive.Thanks for info Bionicman.
.The name of the Bar starts with an "S" I can't recall it but god damn was that pathetic. When I get the name I will post as I am back Sunday.PPSwan? That is The first that comes to my mind.
So disappointed we head to a disco and W O W. Wall to wall hot chick. 5 minutes hand in hand to my room with an excellent 33 year old no babies big juicy tit momma.PPAnd what was the name of the disco?
Member #4414
07-04-13, 17:41
location : star of light bj bar, patpong ii, bangkok.
name : pen.
age given : 27
cost : b700.
time : evening.
gave pen a go on this visit. her nickname in the place is something like hee-yen (an issan word apparently, meaning something like smaller and younger looking than you are). her star of light history is that she worked there for several years then took a break for 3 years and only started up again this year in april for the usual reason (work back in her home town being insufficient wage to maintain her kids, and pay only coming monthly back home).
initially it seemed she may be a hardened pro because she got to work on me right away without the small talk of my usual sol provider. once pen got going though, things improved as the bbbj progressed, especially when the bj eye contact surfaced after a few minutes.
looking back in the archive after the visit, it seems that another guy went with this one (if we're talking about the same pen) and wasn't impressed by the bj that he was given.
initially that was my 'first' impression too, pen doing things a bit too slowly, but she managed to bring me off easily enough once speeding up and making the right slurpy noises, her getting a major gob full and a very satisfying orgasm for me."too much suh-perm", she said (yes!). once it was over, she sat next to me again and we had a nice conversation.
anyway, the latest juicy (well, kind of) intel about star of light is that the owner is considering a make over for the place. yes, the hallowed walls and sofas of this fabled institution may see some 'make over' treatment in the new year (remaining as a bj bar of course). asking what they were going to do, she said the owner hasn't decided yet.
personally i reckon the place is ok as it is, its run down decor being part of the 'charm' (perhaps a misplaced word) , with that wooden monkey holding its enormous cock (it is enormous isn't it? please tell me it is enormous) , the cock shaped bell ringer, the chessboard kind of pattern on the floor and the maroon colours and the use of wood.
others visitors from this board have had fs in that bar and pen mentioned this as b1000 for bj and then fs (covered). pen is one there that i'd consider trying for fs, but looking in the bar the mechanics of it elude me. where can it be done except in that back room? fs on a grubby mattress in that back room isn't appealing (caught a glimpse of that back room interior once and still occasionally go for councelling due to the post traumatic stress).
obviously star of light has an element of challenge to it in itself with a degree of exhibitionism thrown into the mix due to the arrangement, but fs in the bar itself feels like it may be 'a bridge too far' for me. being sucked off when there are three other ladies non chalantly chatting away or sleeping on the next sofa along can seem odd enough as it is, without hammering away at one of them with fs in the same arrangement. famous last words though.
Why do you guys keep saying you overpaid when you didn't?
2700 baht seems very good deal for 3 hours of exchanging bodily fluids. LOL.Mango girls are at 1000+1500 for 2 hrs right? Or is it 3 hours? Looks like it makes more sense to have them over than go down
BTW, landing up in BKK this Sat'day. Am putting up Admiral Premier just in case anyone is interested is meeting up for a chat and a drink!
Traveler1234
07-04-13, 20:02
Mango girls are at 1000+1500 for 2 hrs right? Or is it 3 hours? Looks like it makes more sense to have them over than go downMost oilies are 800 plus 1500 tip for on-site. 1000+1500 for out-call, both for 2 hr sessions. Many places will offer overnight, starting after 9 to 9:30 pm for 1000+2000 [or more] tip. The difference is when you visit, you get to see the eye candy first. If you know who you want already, then room service is the way to go.
I am arriving 7:30 pm next Monday, and booked room service for 9:30 pm with one of the oilies. It's a 2 hr session which may or may not turn into overnight. The 2 hrs is 1000+1500, the LT is 1000+2000, and I'm sure they'll appreciate a larger tip :D
I will be in BKK this weekend and this my first time there. I know July is raining season but is it raining very heavy or moderate?
ThanksThe weather is unpredictable of course. But according to the long time average it rains a lot more in Sept and Oct than in July. Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangkok
I spent these 2 months in BKK several times. No big problem. Rain in this big city feels much less nasty than in Pattaya or on Phuket.
Location : Star of Light BJ Bar, Patpong II, Bangkok.
Name : Pen.
Age Given : 27
Cost : B700.
Time : Evening.
Gave Pen a go on this visit. .
Pen is the kind of girl who understands how to get a guy off. I think for her, she applies the mechanics of what is needed to pop you but she is really missing the whole slutty-working girl aspect to her personality and her BJ repertoire to really push her service over the top. If you tell her what you want though she will do it, but having to tell her does take away from the spontaneity of the act.
Her friend, Rabbit, however does have a bit of that slutty-working girl in her. The last double I had with those two I got a kick out of Rabbit, jacking with one hand, sticking out her tongue and daring me to squirt my load to the back of her mouth with her tongue guiding the way.
I like Rabbit because you can see she really puts her heart into the back and forth twist of the head suck action. It was not the right time though at that instant and during Pens turn she was the one who got to siphon me off.
I posted a few pics of Pen and Rabbit in an earlier thread, mid-March:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1398676&viewfull=1#post1398676
Member #4414
07-05-13, 06:04
(snip) Pen is the kind of girl who understands how to get a guy off. I think for her, she applies the mechanics of what is needed to pop you but she is really missing the whole slutty-working girl aspect to her personality and her BJ repertoire to really push her service over the top. If you tell her what you want though she will do it, but having to tell her does take away from the spontaneity of the act (snip)Cheers for the addition. 'By the numbers but efficient' From Pen does sound accurate to how it was. Thus far my approach in SOL has been to lay back and allow them to work their magic because it has been such a joy to encounter that kind of BJ skill, but putting in requests will probably spice things up even more as its seems I haven't even begun to explore the full range of possibilities in that place yet considering that they all seem a fun lot and are certainly not shy. Arranged a two Girl BJ there once which was great fun and very interactive though.
Pen did mention 'afterwards' that some Falang ask the Girls to open wide after CIM and give a little slutty display before swallowing, saying that some of the workers will do this but tend to charge a little bit more to swallow (she couldn't recall how much, at the time). One of the staff there who is truly part of the furniture is Pai, the tubby one who not many would choose for looks and physique by any means but does have that slutty side to her you speak of, with all the filthy 'nom nom' moaning, the swivel head action and really making the effort. It seems the potential for some porn fantasy enactment is possible in there and will just require me to ask and see the response.
WhipperWhill5
07-05-13, 06:56
Swan? That is The first that comes to my mind.Stumble Inn?
Hotman 666
07-05-13, 09:19
ANOTHER make over for SOL!
At this rate they will be on the cover of Thai House & Garden Magazine next!
I seem to remember that SOL did have a makeover just a few years ago.
Before that, the bar (opposite the sofas) used to have curtains, rather than solid wood, below the counter. This enabled the girls to duck down below the bar top, open the curtains a little and blow you while you sat at the bar watching the old porn films on the TV on the back wall!
Oh the good old days!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Thanks. So moral of the story. Visit Mango, Cherry, Snow White, Ez first up and note down the names of the girls I like. And then get them to comedown. BTW, can anyone suggest names of girls who work well with each other from these parlors? Maybe put on a lesbain show?
Most oilies are 800 plus 1500 tip for on-site. 1000+1500 for out-call, both for 2 hr sessions. Many places will offer overnight, starting after 9 to 9:30 pm for 1000+2000 [or more] tip. The difference is when you visit, you get to see the eye candy first. If you know who you want already, then room service is the way to go.
I am arriving 7:30 pm next Monday, and booked room service for 9:30 pm with one of the oilies. It's a 2 hr session which may or may not turn into overnight. The 2 hrs is 1000+1500, the LT is 1000+2000, and I'm sure they'll appreciate a larger tip.
Member #4414
07-05-13, 10:45
(snip) Before that, the bar (opposite the sofas) used to have curtains, rather than solid wood, below the counter. This enabled the girls to duck down below the bar top, open the curtains a little and blow you while you sat at the bar watching the old porn films on the TV on the back wall! Oh the good old days! (snip)Pen mentioned that the Police ordered the end to the curtain thing. Any suggestions for what they next make over could be? Maybe I can pass suggestions on when next there, and SOL can be customised by customers. One thing is for sure, they won't have trouble obtaining wallpaper paste (how about that for a truly unique and 'personal input' to the interior decoration).
Traveler1234
07-05-13, 11:51
BTW, can anyone suggest names of girls who work well with each other from these parlors? Maybe put on a lesbain show?Email and ask them. I know Cherry and EZ will recommend a pair, although keep in mind EZ girls don't normally do multiple shots in one session.
ANOTHER make over for SOL!
At this rate they will be on the cover of Thai House & Garden Magazine next!In the US would that be the equivalent of the magazine Better Homes and Garbage?
NicFrenchy
07-05-13, 16:42
EZ girls don't normally do multiple shots in one session.I can assure you that some do.
Dextro Sol
07-05-13, 17:14
I can assure you that some do.Agree 100%
location : star of light bj bar, patpong ii, bangkok.
name : pen.
age given : 27
cost : b700.
time : evening.
gave pen a go on this visit. her nickname in the place is something like hee-yen (an issan word apparently, meaning something like smaller and younger looking than you are). her star of light history is that she worked there for several years then took a break for 3 years and only started up again this year in april for the usual reason (work back in her home town being insufficient wage to maintain her kids, and pay only coming monthly back home).
initially it seemed she may be a hardened pro because she got to work on me right away without the small talk of my usual sol provider. once pen got going though, things improved as the bbbj progressed, especially when the bj eye contact surfaced after a few minutes.
looking back in the archive after the visit, it seems that another guy went with this one (if we're talking about the same pen) and wasn't impressed by the bj that he was given.
initially that was my 'first' impression too, pen doing things a bit too slowly, but she managed to bring me off easily enough once speeding up and making the right slurpy noises, her getting a major gob full and a very satisfying orgasm for me."too much suh-perm", she said (yes!). once it was over, she sat next to me again and we had a nice conversation.
anyway, the latest juicy (well, kind of) intel about star of light is that the owner is considering a make over for the place. yes, the hallowed walls and sofas of this fabled institution may see some 'make over' treatment in the new year (remaining as a bj bar of course). asking what they were going to do, she said the owner hasn't decided yet.
personally i reckon the place is ok as it is, its run down decor being part of the 'charm' (perhaps a misplaced word) , with that wooden monkey holding its enormous cock (it is enormous isn't it? please tell me it is enormous) , the cock shaped bell ringer, the chessboard kind of pattern on the floor and the maroon colours and the use of wood.
others visitors from this board have had fs in that bar and pen mentioned this as b1000 for bj and then fs (covered). pen is one there that i'd consider trying for fs, but looking in the bar the mechanics of it elude me. where can it be done except in that back room? fs on a grubby mattress in that back room isn't appealing (caught a glimpse of that back room interior once and still occasionally go for councelling due to the post traumatic stress).
obviously star of light has an element of challenge to it in itself with a degree of exhibitionism thrown into the mix due to the arrangement, but fs in the bar itself feels like it may be 'a bridge too far' for me. being sucked off when there are three other ladies non chalantly chatting away or sleeping on the next sofa along can seem odd enough as it is, without hammering away at one of them with fs in the same arrangement. famous last words though.this is how a report should be written. no shame for the politically-incorrect score card, facts, humor and attention to the details. newcomers take note.
Pointy Stick
07-05-13, 17:35
I have been here for 7 days now and I have 2 more night to go.
The Russian Elena or whats her name is has been siting in the café every day and shuting at me "hello! Hello! You want me! I am new girl here!" but I think she looks like a crappy crackho with bad skin so no way I am sticking my dick in her.I am actually kinda tempted. I was having a chat with her after coming out from Dr BJ's but she wanted 1300. The problem is that she always stays seated so you can't actually see what her body looks like. E is great though. Have been holding back while in Tokyo so she can take a 8 day load.
Traveler1234
07-05-13, 18:42
I can assure you that some do.Let me rephrase: Unlike most of the other oilies popular on ISG [mango, tulip, cherry, snow white], at EZ you need to ask for the girls that provide multiple shots, not all automatically do more than 1. This is actually what EZ management told me after I asked why my gals for hotel room service only provide one shot?
I can assure you that some do.Depends on the dick size. 1.5 mm ... no problem :) .
Giotto
Wolvenvacht
07-05-13, 19:53
Pen is one there that I'd consider trying for FS, but looking in the Bar the mechanics of it elude me. Where can it be done except in that back room? FS on a grubby mattress in that back room isn't appealingI always thought FS was performed in the toilets?
try running a business here. yes, the definition fits. 100.
i'll stick by my original statement.i still don't see the irrational fear or hatred.
they are just like every other human being. the exception is that they don't really have the rule of law as an embedded system.
all people feel the way they feel about other people but in western countries they make it illegal to act on those feelings. most countries do not make that legal distinction.
unless there is some penalty people will not do any differently then they want to do. hit them in the pocket, the way we do in the west when one is discriminated against, and it stops most blatant cases but most people still want to do it. and they do, just in a stealthy 'legal' manner.
you are seeing it in a non-stealthy manner because there is simply no penalty for following your feelings, instinct, prejudice, what your brother-in-law does, etc. as far as treating other people in these countries. hey, in india a local man can [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a women if he feels horny and face little justice, if at all. and the punishment may be marrying the woman (a fate possibly worse than prison imho). now how does that compare on the scale to a little old fashioned discrimination?
so in bkk if they don't want indians – no problem, just put up a sign. who's to stop them and why would they try?
so, why should you be treated any differently?
it will only stop when the 'rule of law' becomes the norm and the lawyers come and keep everyone on the straight and narrow (less they pay!)
likely?
one should know that going in but as someone said, it's kinda fun here.
NicFrenchy
07-06-13, 02:26
Depends on the dick size. 1.5 mm. No problem. .
GiottoKurt Wagner is Back!
Yes, sure, if your dick is the size of a Korean no problem, all girls will do multiple Shots. Kurt speaks from extensive experience. LOL
i still don't see the irrational fear or hatred.
they are just like every other human being. the exception is that they don't really have the rule of law as an embedded system.
all people feel the way they feel about other people but in western countries they make it illegal to act on those feelings. most countries do not make that legal distinction.
unless there is some penalty people will not do any differently then they want to do. hit them in the pocket, the way we do in the west when one is discriminated against, and it stops most blatant cases but most people still want to do it. and they do, just in a stealthy 'legal' manner.
you are seeing it in a non-stealthy manner because there is simply no penalty for following your feelings, instinct, prejudice, what your brother-in-law does, etc. as far as treating other people in these countries. hey, in india a local man can [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a women if he feels horny and face little justice, if at all. and the punishment may be marrying the woman (a fate possibly worse than prison imho). now how does that compare on the scale to a little old fashioned discrimination?
so in bkk if they don't want indians – no problem, just put up a sign. who's to stop them and why would they try?
so, why should you be treated any differently?
it will only stop when the 'rule of law' becomes the norm and the lawyers come and keep everyone on the straight and narrow (less they pay!)
likely?
one should know that going in but as someone said, it's kinda fun here.it starts with institutions in this country not condoning policies that are racist and encourage xenophobia. double pricing, making the path to citizenship easier, etc. it continues with an educational system that teaches about equality, regardless of skin color. and it continues with the media embracing these ideals. it will happen, asean in 2015 will force some of it, and the rest will follow in time.
Didn't find much info here on Kapoo clubs. Any recommendations and experiences.
Somewhere15
07-06-13, 09:47
Agreed. I have never even considered this, although I have been asked to support several ladies over the years (politely declining, of course). I did discover a few years ago that one of my friends was kind of supporting a lady. Well, he was sending her $400 per month. When I asked him why the fuck he was being such a dipshit, he explained it to me. Here is (roughly) his explanation.
One of the beautiful things about LOS is that ladies abound. There are so many girls: tall girls, short girls, chubby girls, skinny girls, dark-skinned, light-skinned, thick-legged, skinny-legged, round-assed, flat-assed, etc. Then there are expensive girls, cheap girls, those that are cheap on the first night and then get progressively more expensive, and those that start out expensive and then get cheaper as you go along. And then there are girls who will give you a great BBBJ, those who CIM, those who do anal, those who do whatever, and those who don't. The point is that you have to hit pussy after pussy trying them all out, and more often than not, there is something missing. You don't quite have the Aha-experience except on very few occasions. So when you do get that revelation, the inspirational experience, you want to repeat it. And then repeat again, etc. You just don't want to have to spend the money and energy bedding the losers again. Why would you if you have a superb girl already identified?
And then it is time to go home. And you know that once you leave, you will lose touch with the girl, and when you come back, you will need to sift through the entire haystack again to find the one needle in there. So you decide to pay the girl something small to keep her interested in you. The money is a way to keep her on a leash, but you know full well that she will continue to ply her trade. You do not expect her to become celibate on $400 per month (or even $10, 000 per month). All you expect is her to email you, and be ready for your return. When you do return to LOS, you let her know you are coming, and voila. She materializes at your hotel and you get that same fantastic sex that you remember from your last visit.
At least that was his theory. I tell you this because sometimes we tend to think that guys who support ladies are being irrational and stupid. But they (at least some of them) have a reason for this strange action, even though it is not a wise course of action.
So in reality, things did not work out according to his theory. He was paying her $400 per month, and then suddenly mama and papa got sick and she needed a little more money. So one month he sent her $600. That was good, but mama and papa are still in hospital, so the next month he sent her $800, and told her that was the last upped payment she will get. Ok. 3 months pass by and she gets her regular $400, but then she herself got sick and needed to go to hospital. $800 out the window.
Eventually he returned and expected to be greeted like a returning hero. He got some pretty good boinking on the first night, he tells me, but then it went south quickly. He wanted to screw lots of different women, but he had unwittingly cornered himself into a monogamous relationship. A monogamous relationship with a gogo dancer! She refused to let him see other girls, and he did not know what to do.
So he skyped me and asked me what the fuck he should do. I told him to ditch the girl and set his manhood free. Unfurl your libido and do what comes naturally: to fuck lots of mediocre women. Exactly what he was trying to avoid by paying this girl money each month.
I'm not claiming all the guys who support women are doing it for this reason, but this is one case. It was a mistake, as I told him at the time, and he now regrets ever having done that, so let's be clear: don't support the ladies from afar, unless you plan to actually marry the girl someday.
And as an aside, he told me that one night he was talking to one of his girl's friends who remarked that she was very impressed that he was sending her 30, 000 baht per month. He didn't say anything, but then asked his girl about it, and she sheepishly admitted that she had exaggerated to her girlfriend. So yes, these girls amplify what they are getting from sponsors because it boosts their reputation as a major money-getter.Hi Kumbu, nice to see your post.
Remember (some years ago) your descriptive stories while you where in Bangkok.
Hope you return soon and start posting.
Member #4387
07-06-13, 11:10
I remember in my early mongeryears beeing a newbee (I had read some articles from various forum but not everything) then I met this DIA girl (very tall. 22yrs, fake boobs, longlegged) and I was stunned and blinded for a while (one of my first Thaigirls). We parted without any agreement on any sponsorprogram. A few months later (and I had read even more forums) she called me up and said she needed some money. I told her that was out of the question as long I was not with her and saw myself what she infact needed money for (this was infact for dentist as her tooth had broke atleast so she claimed). Had I been there with her to see her broken tooth. No problem. I would come with her to the best dentist. Then she started to pull this crocodile tears on me so I very reluctantly agreed to send her some money (my first and last time). I send her 7500bht equal to a norwegian 1500. I felt so stupid sending money so I did break with her and never heard from her again. And this was even small money. When I am with the ladies then I am not cheap at all I get them to doctorsappointment, buy them expensive clothes and stuff. But never ever will I send some money without me beeing around to monitor how money is spend.
But to many Thaigirls defence, atleast the one I hang out with or meet, they do relatively good themself so are in no need for anything (still ofcourse I buy them gifts to be nice which they ofcourse appreciates). And for my freelancer I have met over the past 3-4 years (even the Beergarden / Beachroad girls). No moneyquestion have been raised even some of them have my e-mails and phonenumber. Maby the habit of asking about money is not so popular or is it the punters themself offering to sponsor? If the last, how stupid is that?
I remember down in Phuket I was actual bonking a girl in the middle of the thainight while she talked to her finnish sponsor. It was relatively fun.
Agreed. I have never even considered this, although I have been asked to support several ladies over the years (politely declining, of course)I think your anecdote / story summarises the reasons why guys sponsors girls, be it 100€ or400€ a month. To make sure they have a lady waiting for them when they return and save the hassle of the search, scouting for the girl to take to bed when he visits the country again. I don't see many other reasons, unless humanitarian reasons (!). The outcome is nearly always the.
Same, unless a wedding is on the agenda (could also be the guy looking at the marriage) , can't be much different.
Fact is when one sums up the amounts (average 200 per month) and the days he spends in the country, the toll is high, very high. Unreasonable to me. Better over pay her per encounter, in a pinch, so that when one arrives there she clears her agenda as the high payer comes to town. There is non incentive for her, and the story tells, to deliver since she already got money, lots of money, in advance. She also knows it can last forever, so once she collected a fair amount she can ditch him and move to the next payer.
Mr Enternational
07-06-13, 12:35
But to many Thaigirls defence, atleast the one I hang out with or meet, they do relatively good themself so are in no need for anything (still ofcourse I buy them gifts to be nice which they ofcourse appreciates). And for my freelancer I have met over the past 3-4 years (even the Beergarden / Beachroad girls). No moneyquestion have been raised even some of them have my e-mails and phonenumber. Maby the habit of asking about money is not so popular or is it the punters themself offering to sponsor? If the last, how stupid is that?I will buy that in many cases. I have a friend who frequently sends money through other friends to give to girls. The last time it happened was a couple of months ago. He befriended a girl who was working in a bar, but he still had not fucked her. He sends money, unsolicited, through another of our friends and the friend gives the girl the money. Now this guy is the threesome king. That is his M. O. So he returns to Thailand and gets the girl and tells her he wants to do a threesome. They go find another girl and get back to the room. The girls go at it. Come to find out, the girl he has been sending money to won't let him fuck her. She is gay!
Another time he wants the same friend to pass money to a girl and he will put it in his bank account later. He tells the friend to give her $200. He rattles off the girl's phone number so our friend can call her to pick up the money. The phone number sounds familiar. It just so happens that the girl in question is the recently former squeeze of the friend who is supposed to deliver the money. He told him why he stopped dealing with her and convinced him not to waste his money giving it to her.
NeverGetsOld
07-06-13, 13:02
Think you guys are spending way too much. Of all the people in the world to help. Why help a cum rag?
I'm finding out it's more the gesture, then the amount anyway.
You buy you wife a diamond watch. I'll buy your wife a double headed dildo. She may appreciate my creativity more.
Most Thai chicks I know are happy with 50 baht spicy seafood salad and an occasional movie. Hoes included.
Maybe you guys are helping me out though with less needy Thai chicks.
P. S. I hear tons of stories. My rich chick owns condo buildings. One of the old dudes confines with her what he should spend on his 18 y / o Isaan chick, which he spends 10,000 / week. My bar girl chick tells me many stories of guys paying way, way, way more.
I remember down in Phuket I was actual bonking a girl in the middle of the thainight while she talked to her finnish sponsor. It was relatively fun.Ha ha. Ya, been there, done that.
Except mine was one of my freebe light skinned and very hot Dominican sex-pots. I told her every time that dumb German calls, she is going to talking to him while my dick works her over. So expect it. She did not care a bit except when I banged her hard enough that she could not keep the phone to her ear. That was when I would get a scowling look thrown back at me. She was kind of nutts. In a good way though.
Think you guys are spending way too much. Of all the people in the world to help. Why help a cum rag?I got news for you. The guy frequenting the cum rag ain't no more respectable an individual than the cum rag herself. He may think he is. But that is just denial doing its work.
Ha ha. Ya, been there, done that.
Except mine was one of my freebe light skinned and very hot Dominican sex-pots. I told her every time that dumb German calls, she is going to talking to him while my dick works her over. So expect it. She did not care a bit except when I banged her hard enough that she could not keep the phone to her ear. That was when I would get a scowling look thrown back at me. She was kind of nutts. In a good way though.Really a common theme for the man that has 'known the world". My wonderful Anurak from Udon, in all her candidness, would talk to the Swedish sponsor that was asking if she was still harvesting in the farm while I was taking her from behind. Little he knew that she had flown to Phuket for the only purpose of saying farewell to me.
I think it's facinating how the world has a way of balancing things out. Clearly her good fortune is more than offset by having to deal with scum. Everyone pays in the end!
Think you guys are spending way too much. Of all the people in the world to help. Why help a cum rag?
I'm finding out it's more the gesture, then the amount anyway.
You buy you wife a diamond watch. I'll buy your wife a double headed dildo. She may appreciate my creativity more.
Most Thai chicks I know are happy with 50 baht spicy seafood salad and an occasional movie. Hoes included.
Maybe you guys are helping me out though with less needy Thai chicks.
P. S. I hear tons of stories. My rich chick owns condo buildings. One of the old dudes confines with her what he should spend on his 18 why / o Isaan chick, which he spends 10, 000 / week. My bar girl chick tells me many stories of guys paying way, way, way more.
NeverGetsOld
07-06-13, 21:57
Screw Singapore and their $40 pitchers and ships on buildings. Back in the city I love.
DMK to crib. Grab umbrella and go to NaNa.
Going to be the first night for awhile away from the new wifey and got to make something good of it.
The second I get there I see a sexy fat ass in NaNa hotel parking lot by herself holding umbrella. Other nights I see all fuglies.
Good personality, doesn't mention price. Dart to my crib.
First Thai chick I've seen with KY. She puts it on my side table along with a condom. Mind-boggling. Laughable.
Never used either and this girl was gushing like no other. Turning me the fuck on. Especially considering she wanted to use KY first.
Drenched her back and gave her more then my going rate. 1000 baht for short time and she was upset. Didn't have 100 baht notes. Fuck it. Some really good dripping wet streetwalker pussy.
Can't turn down onion booty or big naturals and models take a backseat. Just a matter if I got to be a bastard or not to get it.
Too many hot Thai chicks. Too little semen. Too little cash.
Member #4387
07-06-13, 23:09
Like at the zoo where you see signs "don't feed the animals" there should have been signs at immigrations, as I guess the majority of visitors into Thai and the Phils actually have to pass through here, saying "don't sponsor prostitutes" (I don't speak of normal compensation pre session). I read in other forums as well and I feel so sorry for all the misleaded people out there thinking they found a special girl (in a bar, on the street, in a gogo, in a datingsite etc etc). Let her be special only when you are with her(atleast that is how I do it).
What surprises me by far the most is farangs actualy sponsering girls they meet online and have not even met. Laugh or cry I don't know what I pick. Normaly the glory midway I guess. The girls for sure laugh.
True story: Last time in Manila (1 month or so ago) I had this beautiful datingsitegirl coming over to my hotel. We started drinking and talking and as she got tipsy she spoke quite openly about her line of operation. She logged on my Ipad and showed me her communication (mail, skype etc) with a few guys. OMG I laughed and cried at the same time. They had all only met her through internet and a few were based in Europe and one in Canada and they all start to send her quite decent ammount of money so she would clear her scheduel if they were to set foot in her vicinity. From 4 punters she recieved 50000php (approx 40000bht) per month. I was so facinated so I read and read and almost forgot the girl. She actually told me she had other friends as well doing the same and she thought it was the easiest work in the world as they were not to fuck these guys no matter what (atleast so she claimed).2 good question she raised (she was a eduacated girl).1. Why I take normal job when I get this kind of money just chatting on internet (not even strip as she told me)? And 2. Are all foreign guys this stupid? The first question I told her I see your point and on the second I responded "atleast not me"Yeah I told her that to) but also I told her I simply could not explain why people would do such a thing as throwing money out the window. Then we got down to business.
I've been thinking about heading over to Bangkok one of these trips but was curious what the scene is like compared to the fkk scene. Anybody here have any input? I've been reading some of the reports in the Thailand section, jotting down notes and considering a possible trip. As we all know with the fkk clubs, there isn't a huge selection of asian girls around the fkk scene. I was looking at some of the photo's guys put up in the Thailand section and to be honest I wasn't too impressed, that is until I saw some youtube video of the girls working at some of these clubs (soi cowboy etc). This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgjnt6hOyjE At the 1:20 mark. 2:00 mark. 2:12 mark to show a couple of girls got me thinking it wouldn't be a bad place to check out.
What's the scene like in Bangkok and Pattaya?
TankTank123
07-07-13, 01:37
I've been thinking about heading over to Bangkok one of these trips but was curious what the scene is like compared to the fkk scene. Anybody here have any input?No comparison at all. I have been there twice 2 years ago. The places with the best variety are the 'fishtank' establishments (e. G. Cleopatra) where about 100 + girls sit behind a huge glass screen for you to choose from. Half of them are remarkably attractive, but those I brought to the rooms turned out disastrous. The soapy body to body massages that they provide before the act were great though. I did not dare to go to the Soi Cowboi area as the local mafia might beat you up.
TankTank123
07-07-13, 01:48
To elaborate, what was not evident in the youtube video is that once the girls have lured you into into shop, there will be bouncers guarding the door which you then cannot exit without paying an exhorbitant sum of money for drinks. The large 'fish tank' establishments (they have more rooms than Oase, Palace or Artemis) are safe, as they are more open and there are large numbers of customers.
Saw some videos of Nana parking lot freelancers on the Internet. The video was recent and many of the freelancers looked attractive. My question is what are the ST / LT rates (do they even go long time?). And do thy usually give good service or are their many con artist amongst them?
Saw some videos of Nana parking lot freelancers on the Internet. The video was recent and many of the freelancers looked attractive. My question is what are the ST / LT rates (do they even go long time?). And do thy usually give good service or are their many con artist amongst them?My questions are:what have you been doing in ISG during the last months? How did you put together 76 posts and you ask this question?
Will you ask on a tourist forum whether McDonald is better than Burger King and what the price of a burger / chips / drink set is?
AssLover945
07-07-13, 08:26
My questions are:what have you been doing in ISG during the last months? How did you put together 76 posts and you ask this question?
Will you ask on a tourist forum whether McDonald is better than Burger King and what the price of a burger / chips / drink set is?Hahahaha shitty question. Nice answer.
I would reply like this:
Ohh yes, the nana park girls are the best in terms of service, rest assured. Go ahead try and then tell us your own personal experience.
For me it has been great so far.
"Ohh yes, the nana park girls are the best in terms of service, rest assured. Go ahead try and then tell us your own personal experience".Welllll If You look at his post history, it is all about questions as such. Must be very insecure guy to have only questions.
It is not a matters of flaming on newbies or what. We had very decent reports from people with 5 post history, we have lurkers who keep quiet and learn or absorb from experience from the others. True they might not payback, but they also not fill the threads of such questions.
I mean, do one who has been on ISG for a while, and in the Thai forums, to learn about Nana car Park FL's through you tube?
Stunning is also a very personal judgement and you need that definition taken from a video to decide to pick up a girl for shagging her, be it ST or LT? I don't think one picks up a girl from there to discuss the fate of the world or bring her back home to show the parents. So nice she is good or decent looking, if stunning (according to what standard?) the better. But as you said, pick her up and report back. Or will he keep the feedback for himself waiting some other comrade as him comes out with a question?
Bier garden as Nana Car Park offers different levels of FL'. There is people stating BG is full of old dogs. Lots not in their prime, very true, but lots of them with decently maintained bodies and not starfish, the most important thing.
Same is at Nana, different ages for different folks. Different services for different standards.
No comparison at all. I have been there twice 2 years ago. The places with the best variety are the 'fishtank' establishments (e. G. Cleopatra) where about 100 + girls sit behind a huge glass screen for you to choose from. Half of them are remarkably attractive, but those I brought to the rooms turned out disastrous. The soapy body to body massages that they provide before the act were great though. I did not dare to go to the Soi Cowboi area as the local mafia might beat you up.Sorry mate, but your comments on BKK are ludicrus.
This is the FKK thread, so I will not elaborate her but I advised any interested reader to go and read the bakkok thread of the FF.
Soi cowboy is far safer than the RLD in Amsterdam for insatnce.
Wether you like BKK more than FKKs is nothing more than a personal opinion. I have been every year to both places repeatedly since 5-6 years, and I don't have an opinion. I enjoy both when I am around.
FlyingVisitor
07-07-13, 13:35
Saw some videos of Nana parking lot freelancers on the Internet. The video was recent and many of the freelancers looked attractive. My question is what are the ST / LT rates (do they even go long time?). And do thy usually give good service or are their many con artist amongst them?You obviously know where to find the girls.
Then my answer only can be: "Learning by doing".
FV
I've been thinking about heading over to Bangkok one of these trips but was curious what the scene is like compared to the fkk scene. Anybody here have any input? I've been reading some of the reports in the Thailand section, jotting down notes and considering a possible trip. As we all know with the fkk clubs, there isn't a huge selection of asian girls around the fkk scene. I was looking at some of the photo's guys put up in the Thailand section and to be honest I wasn't too impressed, that is until I saw some youtube video of the girls working at some of these clubs (soi cowboy etc). This video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgjnt6hOyjE
At the 1:20 mark. 2:00 mark. 2:12 mark to show a couple of girls got me thinking it wouldn't be a bad place to check out.
What's the scene like in Bangkok and Pattaya?I don't know Pattaya. Its cheaper but likely to be less classy girls there. BKK is certainly still cheap in comparison to FKK. Taking a girl for 2 hours could cost you about 50-60 Euros. All night for 100 Euros. I have great fun taking two or three girls at a time from Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy for Bi-sexual action, where as I do not take more than a single girl per time in FKK. Lesbian show at Suzi Wong is worth seeing. Oily Massage and Soapy massage places are more hit and miss, so check reviews in the forum. Even though BKK is more hit and miss than FKK overall, its cheap enough that if you get the wrong girl, just kick her out, and go get another one.
For an extended mongering binge of several successive days or more, BKK is definitely going to hurt your wallet less than FKK. If you like Thai girls, at all in the FKKs, then BKK is like a must try! Soi Cowboy is not dangerous at all contrary to what TT123 wrote. I always feel safe in Thailand. Don't go looking for trouble, as you can find it if you try to. Always try to be polite in Thailand, its the Thai way.
To elaborate, what was not evident in the youtube video is that once the girls have lured you into into shop, there will be bouncers guarding the door which you then cannot exit without paying an exhorbitant sum of money for drinks.What you refer to sounds like the Pat pong of several years ago. They have tried to rip me off many years ago but I refused. I don't go there anymore. Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are safe.
No comparison at all. I have been there twice 2 years ago. The places with the best variety are the 'fishtank' establishments (e. G. Cleopatra) where about 100 + girls sit behind a huge glass screen for you to choose from. Half of them are remarkably attractive, but those I brought to the rooms turned out disastrous. The soapy body to body massages that they provide before the act were great though. I did not dare to go to the Soi Cowboi area as the local mafia might beat you up.Which Cleopatra?"The Cleopatra" in Chinatown is a pretty crap place and I don't think has a large fishtank. Small selection of low quality girls. Cleopatra Soapy in Din Daeng road was far better but has been closed for several years.
Try to write more based on your actual experiences so it will start to gel with the reality a bit. There are some good Soapies but your example case seems to be a poor choice.
As for not daring to go to Soi Cowboy, you obviously have been scared off by false rumours. Its a fun place for me. I have no problems there at all except to keep control of my own wayward behaviour.
TankTank123
07-07-13, 15:02
Cleopatra Soapy in Din Daeng road was far better but has been closed for several years.Sorry, I am truly out of date. I was referring to the Din Daeng soapy. But I did meet a traveller on a plane out of Bangkok who told me he was beaten up at a joint at Soi Cowboy and showed me his bruises. Maybe he misbehaved.
On the social Thai ladder the only thing worse than being a prostitute is being a prostitutes customer. LOL.I didn't jump on the bandwagon of bashing you yet, but if you could just stop posting two-liners of non-sense or no-content that would be great.
Use your eyes, the luxury cars parked outside the best Bangkok soapies (remember these cost 4 times their price in Western countries, but that in Thailand the average wage is 4 times smaller) , indicates that their owners, parked inside between a pro's legs, are hardly low in the social ladder. Unless you believe that is Skogies and Sir Lancelot driving them all. It also happens that sometime these rich men take a fancy on a girl and set her up as mistress or "Mia Noi", giving her all what she wants.
I really don't understand how some guys think they are doing the girls a big favor by using them. To the girls it's just business. Truth be told I bet money the girls wouldn't give us time of day.We do do them a favor by chosing any individual one over the many others. In my profession, I may think I'm the best of the best, still when a new or repeated customer choose me and pays the bill I'm thankful, because nobody forced him to.
I don't know Pattaya. Its cheaper but likely to be less classy girls there. BKK is certainly still cheap in comparison to FKK. Taking a girl for 2 hours could cost you about 50-60 Euros. All night for 100 Euros. I have great fun taking two or three girls at a time from Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy for Bi-sexual action, where as I do not take more than a single girl per time in FKK. Lesbian show at Suzi Wong is worth seeing. Oily Massage and Soapy massage places are more hit and miss, so check reviews in the forum. Even though BKK is more hit and miss than FKK overall, its cheap enough that if you get the wrong girl, just kick her out, and go get another one.I've got enough airmiles for a free ticket to Germany (60k airmiles). I looked and to fly my ass to Bangkok and back is 65k airmiles. Funny thing is the flight lands in Frankfurt before continuing on to Bangkok. My thoughts are to use the airmiles and then try to extend my stay in Frankfurt. Even if I have to pay $100 to change the flight it would be worth it to kill two birds with one stone. As to the cost the sex is about the same, your just getting more time for your money. But the scene does look interesting enough to check out at least once.
To elaborate, what was not evident in the youtube video is that once the girls have lured you into into shop, there will be bouncers guarding the door which you then cannot exit without paying an exhorbitant sum of money for drinks. The large 'fish tank' establishments (they have more rooms than Oase, Palace or Artemis) are safe, as they are more open and there are large numbers of customers.I've been reading the Thailand forum and watching some youtube video's and there is a video where your given advice on what to do, etc. One key piece of advice was to always stay in the main bar, never go up any stairs to a hidden area. Guy in the video said they'll try to get you up to see a ping pong ball being shot out of some girls vagina and say you have to buy two 100 baht drinks. But the bill will come back saying its 6, 000 bahts for two drinks. This might be what your thinking of.
Saw some videos of Nana parking lot freelancers on the Internet. The video was recent and many of the freelancers looked attractive. My question is what are the ST / LT rates (do they even go long time?). And do thy usually give good service or are their many con artist amongst them?Someone posted the same video here recently. I wonder if Harold has seen it yet and how he graded them. LOL.
With a simple & accurate reply, let me save you many hours reading the forums (RTF) for the answer to your queries, which would be like looking for a needle in the haystack.
Generally the price for ST is 1000 baht. It has been unchanged & like that since 2007, at least, unlike the ever changing gogo scene. Some girls may ask 1200 or 1500, especially if they are very hot (like top 3 Rainbow 4 material). With a little bargaining skills you may find you can bring the price down. I once had a girl bring it down three times from 1500 to 1000 in less than 30 seconds. If the occasional girl quotes you 2000, feel free to laugh in her face.
Regarding LT I haven't done that in years, & it may be going out of style, but all things are possible. I'm sure some girls will do it, especially if they like you or you make it worth their time. Depnding on various factors like how many hours you expect them to spend with you & what you require them to do, you could work with 2000 baht as a rough figure.
Concerning good service that would depend on your definition of the term. I'd say your odds are better than in a gogo where you'll pay 3 times as much. But again it largely depends on you and your manners as to what you will get & sometimes I've run into con artists. Fortunately you pay these girls after a session, so if they have provided no service or not lived up to what you agreed to with them beforehand, feel free to not pay them anything or pay them according to what they deserve. You can warn them of this in advance. It's easy enough to throw a lame assed fish back into the pond and pick up another one who will probably make you happy.
If the con artist says her mouth is too tired to continue a BBBJ after 2 minutes, tell her your hand is too lazy to get your wallet.
If she agreed before to a 30 minute BBBJ but only does 10 minutes, then maybe pay her 300 baht or nothing. Up to you.
To encourage her to give an amazing BBBJ instead of a lousy one, you could offer her a big tip if she gives excellent service.
I was looking at some of the photo's guys put up in the Thailand section and to be honest I wasn't too impressed.I had the same kind of reaction before I went to Brazil the first time. I never would have gone if I had relied on the pics of many others. Well, I finally did go and was blown away by the experience. And I learned a valuable lesson. Never decide whether or not to go to a place on a mongering trip based on somebody else's ugly pics! Some guys have taste. Some don't. Those that don't? They'll travel halfway around the world and still end up with a dog. And they think they've found Heaven! There were a number of attractive girls in that clip you posted. Those are the ones that a gentlemen with taste would be humping on. Not the ones in the ugly pics you see.
As to the cost the sex is about the same, your just getting more time for your money. But the scene does look interesting enough to check out at least once.
I've been reading the Thailand forum and watching some youtube video's and there is a video where your given advice on what to do, etc. One key piece of advice was to always stay in the main bar, never go up any stairs to a hidden area. Guy in the video said they'll try to get you up to see a ping pong ball being shot out of some girls vagina and say you have to buy two 100 baht drinks. But the bill will come back saying its 6, 000 bahts for two drinks. This might be what your thinking of.You say cost of the sex is the same. This is somewhat true if you are a 30 minute quickie enthusiast although can get a quickie for half the price when consider all the overheads. As I like to take long sessions with girls, Thailand is far cheaper than FKK for me.
The rip off type bars are in Pat Pong district. I haven't seen this for years as haven't been there except to known "good" bars. In Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, no one will try to sting you. So as long as stick to the right bar areas, there is no problem at all. Going upstairs, not a problem. Okay customers are not so welcome, if they try to watch many shows and sit on a single drink for the entire night, taking up valuable seating space, but this only applies to the stingiest type of guys you can find. Any reasonable customer will be well treated.
I didn't jump on the bandwagon of bashing you yet, but if you could just stop posting two-liners of non-sense or no-content that would be great.Marcos,
Harald444 is what Jackson called a "serial antagonist", years ago, when Jackson stilled cared about the forum.
Besides the fact that most of Harold's posts are replies and have no content at all he is just enjoying that people react to his stupid nonsense. He does not know much about Thailand. You just proofed it. And - the ISG is not the first forum he is penetrating with his nonsense.
The best what readers can do is to simply ignore his posts or add him to their ignore list. And DON'T REPLY AT ALL. If he does not get any attention he will disappear. He is definitely not worth a reply. Just another complete idiot.
Giotto
What you refer to sounds like the Pat pong of several years ago. They have tried to rip me off many years ago but I refused. I don't go there anymore. Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are safe.That certainly does sound more like Patpong but Nana and Soi Cowboy are a different breed. Right now Cowboy is losing favor. There're a number of clubs there managed byt someone colourfully referred to as "The Arab" and he's turned these clubs into Coyote bars, more for the Arabic or Japanese customers. You'll get pulled in with hotties at the door but what ends up happening is that you'll spend plenty of dosh on lady drinks and the girl will never leave the establishment. Google "Soi Cowboy" with "The Arab" and see what I mean.
I've been going down there for nearly a decade now and watched the changes closely.
Right now, if you want to party in Bangkok, Nana is the place....but who only wants to party in Bangkok? Some people say that Pattaya doesn't have the the same beautiful women, and then they'd be wrong. The are far more gogos, dance clubs, massage parlours, blowjob bars or beer bars (or blowjob AND beer bars) with all variety of women available in Patts. It's also less expensive and has a (crap) beach, but there are golf courses, water parts, movies, beer bars...did I mention beer bars? :) Also don't be a putz and overspend - Bangkok Gogo girls wil get 2.5-3K baht longtime, 1.5-2K baht shortime; knock about 1K off each number in Pattaya. There are some great blow-job bars on the 6 that do ST for 600 baht.
Yes - there are girls who think themselves stunners and want more - but guess what? There's another pretty woman right behind the first, and if you have to haggle on price you're not going to have a good time in the room. There are plenty who'll take 1.5K-2K longtime and be very happy with it.
When I hit town I usually monger down there and give Bangkok a miss. AMA.
Use your eyes, the luxury cars parked outside the best Bangkok soapies (remember these cost 4 times their price in Western countries, but that in Thailand the average wage is 4 times smaller) , indicates that their owners, parked inside between a pro's legs, are hardly low in the social ladder. Unless you believe that is Skogies and Sir Lancelot driving them all. It also happens that sometime these rich men take a fancy on a girl and set her up as mistress or "Mia Noi", giving her all what she wants.Many of our countries have pushed us into a corner of the lowest of the low in terms of social morality. Mongers and providers are one of the groups at the bottom. The group is populated by those with luxury cars and most have no car at all.
You guys are talking about two different social ladders.
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