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Are you saying that when you go to the soapies and the gogo house and the chatuchak market you carry your passport with you? You must be freaking.Never been.
What do you go there for? The "live animals":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatuchak_Weekend_Market
From 07 until a year ago I travelled with a copy & left the PP at home. Now vica versa. But I like the idea of someone who posted today, to take both.
When in Angels City I generally go for outcall. Treasures are locked up or hidden.
For incall in Hongapore or Annies I keep an eye (the third one) on my jewels.
I have to ask this, but what is up with some go-go bars not allowing "darker" skinned men inside? I am an American, and I'm not Indian but one might assume that at first. I've lived in the US a vast majority of my life, and if one ever has a conversation with me. They can easily tell this guy is clearly westernized.
Last year I went to LOS for the very first time and it was an amazing trip. Pattaya was fantastic, and BKK was a lot of fun and is easily one of my favorite cities in the world. However, I did run into one "negative" situation on Soi Cowboy. I believe the bar was Rawhide, I was by myself and approaching the entrance when the guy up front put his hand out and said "members only". I had read about this somewhere else, but is this really to do with my appearance of being a non-white? I was tempted to pull out my passport and wave several thousand dollars in bahts at him and tell him "that's cool, I guess all this will somewhere else." and just walk over to one of the other locations which had no issue with me being there.
So what's the deal with this? Is it that Thai people assume that men that look Indian are either cheap, or just not their type? Yeah there are plenty of other go-go bars that will welcome me and anyone else of any color inside, but I will not lie. It does bother me a little bit when I see a bunch of people walk inside Rawhide and as I am about to walk in I'm stopped by some guy who is clearly either assuming or being told not to let people of a certain origin inside. I do not believe I had the same situation happen at any other location on Soi Cowboy or in Patpong, I visited several go-go bars in both areas.
Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated, it's easy to say treat it like a business and know that there are plenty of other places you can go to and have fun. But this type of treatment is a bit disappointing to see, especially when it happens in front of a large crowd that is mixed with tourists and expats from every corner of the world.
I'm only patronize R4 during prime-time hours. 9-11pm. Thats the context for this post.
I'm also into light skin pretty girls. It seems K is brown boy who go for non-light skin.
If Kumbus reporting of Iranian, Arab, and Indians is true. It really is the end of R4 as a Ippun bar.
I've never seen a whole lot of middle eastern types, a few Indians maybe here or there as part of a multi ethnic group.
I do see a whole lot of whites, macho Italians, old, all kinds.
If past midnight and K is seeing stages full of gorgeous beauties. I'm a monkeys uncle. Of course this is where the preference in ladies shows up. If you into farang style girls it could be true. If you are into Thai and Ippun type girls-it can't be true. LOL...
2. The panties came off and I thought I was in India or Sri Lanka. LOL.
3. The least horrifying, boobs in bra looked kind of odd. Bra cums off and it was OMG, one boob looked ok. The other one looked deflated like a flat tire. LOL.
Out of the last 10 girls I've chosen only been ok with 2. Don't think ill ever find a girl I want to do 150 sessions with again ever in my life. That was just one of those things. Just unexplainable how I clicked with that girl.
One bad drawback about MPs is you just have no idea what the body looks like. I'm disappointed more often than not.Two out of 10 is a very poor score. You have to be doing something a bit wrong or are incredibly unlucky. Maybe you want to learn a few things from others. LOL.
Firstly I collect a few super hot girls from classy Thai oriented Soapy shops, like Utopia, The Lord, or Amsterdam. Then you can have guaranteed regular good experiences with your Thai spec / DNA type girls, e. G. Chiang Rai girls seem to be my favourites if their face is not too broad or rounded and no fake nose or tits. Similarly for Oilies and bars. I find some places that consistently supply good girls, or when in doubt, repeat with a tried and true girl.
I have only tried 2 new girls in the last week. However both were great fun and sexy and definite repeat candidates.
In MPS I should ask the girls to stand up if they are seated as can gauge the body shape better. If the girl is wearing something that hides the figure too much, don't take her. (90% of time I can spot if the tits are fake despite the girl being dressed). It is harder to gauge tit sag. However with my recent Yorimichi girl, I could tell she had a great body before the clothes came off. Curves not hidden by the clothing. I admit that gogo bars where girl is completely naked has its advantages. No surprises, and can weed out a large percentage of the girls simply by body not right.
Maybe I take a bit more time to choose a girl and choose carefully. Patience sometimes needed. If a regular at certain Soapies and can trust a staff member, getting advice about the girls is possible too. At La Belle I know the papasan Oscar very well, but unfortunately his taste in girls is not like mine. He likes big tits and ass, fakes, etc. And I like slimmer. However he can still comment on the girl's service and popularity. He will say this girl gives great service. I will say, sorry she has ugly face for me. LOL. So perhaps La Belle is not my best hunting ground. Go to a place where the staff member really understands what style of girl you like.
If you are going to mention construction workers you should speak for yourself. We all have minimum standards of looks, and clearly no one is attracted to construction workers.
The girl you reviewed sounds fairly awful though. I guess she must have had at least had a great face? What shop would you find such a poor standard girl in?
Streetwalker7
08-08-13, 08:05
If you are going to mention construction workers you should speak for yourself. We all have minimum standards of looks, and clearly no one is attracted to construction workers.I am speaking for myself. The girls farangs chose for long time companionship more often than not look like your local construction worker rather than the local office girl.
It passes my eyeball test or I wouldn't say it. LOL.
I'm trying hard to read Kumboos reports but they are getting worse. I think guys say they like his report just because I say I don't. Noone wants to agree with me-even though I'm right. LOL.
Streetwalker7
08-08-13, 08:13
Building rapport with a bargirl!
If they let you feel their niplles in the bar its almost a guarantee your short-time will be decent. LOL. Looking back all my agogo favorites let me feel them up in their bars. The one common denominator!
Member #4351
08-08-13, 15:51
Maybe you want to learn a few things from others. LOL.Your situation is radically different from the very vast majority of forum members in that you speak Thai. I can't compare my way of doing things in a Spanish speaking country, with how a forum member who doesn't speak a word of Spanish will operate.
Thais' involved in P4P in the LOS have no use for Indians or Indian look-a-likes, period. Well known and fully discussed. Sorry but you're SOL. Read back 100 pages.
I have to ask this, but what is up with some go-go bars not allowing "darker" skinned men inside? I am an American, and I'm not Indian but one might assume that at first. Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
Paul Kausch
08-08-13, 16:59
Two out of 10 is a very poor score. You have to be doing something a bit wrong or are incredibly unlucky. Maybe you want to learn a few things from others. LOL.
Your situation is radically different from the very vast majority of forum members in that you speak Thai. I can't compare my way of doing things in a Spanish speaking country, with how a forum member who doesn't speak a word of Spanish will operate.Fluency in Thai does make a tremendous difference. Learning some basic polite phrases and sex related terms, which can be accomplished over the course of a trans-Pacific flight, makes a big difference. Over twenty years I made numerous trips to Thailand and thought I was pretty knowledgeable. I began reading ISG beginning of winter 2012-13 and I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I've learned from some of the other ISG members.
Fluency in Thai does make a tremendous difference. Learning some basic polite phrases and sex related terms, which can be accomplished over the course of a trans-Pacific flight, makes a big difference.Knowing Thai in Thailand helps, huh? Ya think?
Knowing a few words makes a BIG difference? Really, how is that? To make them giggle? I can do that on my own.
After sabai, sabai it's all useless sawadi-CRAP, me thinks.
Paul Kausch
08-08-13, 17:49
Knowing Thai in Thailand helps, huh? Ya think?
Knowing a few words makes a BIG difference? Really, how is that? To make them giggle? I can do that on my own.
After sabai, sabai it's all useless sawadi-CRAP, me thinks.I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're being facetious.
Traveler1234
08-08-13, 18:00
Fluency in Thai does make a tremendous difference.Knowing some simple terms is one thing; being fluent is another.
Syzygies is 95% fluent. You can't imagine how that helps unless you've actually seen it work in person -- as I have from years back. That's why he's got so many local GF, LOL.
And if anyone is seriously interested in learning, he created an extensive MS word document which might be available to anyone asking politely for it! :)
I'm trying hard to read Kumboos reports but they are getting worse. I think guys say they like his report just because I say I don't. Noone wants to agree with me-even though I'm right. LOL.Well I don't try to read it all. Just sort of scan in case anything interesting. I think he is on "something" at times. I am more interested in hard clinical information / data or perhaps a good story but not too psychedelic. Normally I tempted to disagree with you on nearly everything. LOL.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're being facetious.No need, I'm not.
Take 20 words of Mandarin you learned on the plane and try and use them in Shanghai. Bettter yet, jump in a cab and use them. ALL you'll get is a big meter and not your destination.
And god forbid someone you approach actually thinks you actually have more than 20 words of language skills and you're immediately fucked with your mouth hangin open.
Basic Spanish 101 in Lima or Quito – Very helpful.
20 Spanish words in Tijuana makes them laugh.
20 Thai words – useless.
Whispering sabai, sabai when your sliding it into her ass – Invaluable!
That's why he's got so many local GF, LOL.You exaggerate again. I have only one GF (yes its the same one you met once. Has been off again on again) and one is really too many. Daddy07 has the right idea. No GF or missus at all. A few female friends not being fucked (at least not any longer).
Then there are all those regular paid girls which is a much better idea. At least with these you know exactly what you are getting for time and money spent.
Member #4351
08-08-13, 18:25
I'm trying hard to read Kumboos reports but they are getting worse. I think guys say they like his report just because I say I don't. Noone wants to agree with me-even though I'm right. LOL.You are wrong and also appear to be intellectually challenged if you are incapable of putting someone on your ignore list. Or maybe you just enjoy complaining.
Paul Kausch
08-08-13, 18:26
Knowing some simple terms is one thing; being fluent is another.
Syzygies is 95% fluent. You can't imagine how that helps unless you've actually seen it work in person. As I have from years back. That's why he's got so many local GF, LOL.
And if anyone is seriously interested in learning, he created an extensive MS word document which might be available to anyone asking politely for it! .Syzygies is a smart man. No doubt the more time one spends in a country the more knowledge of the language helps. I can't image living in Thailand and not making it one's first priority to learn the language, oral and written. Knowing a few common phrases is helpful even if you are a tourist visiting the country for a few days. Knowing basic customs, greetings, how to ask for things and thank people leads to better relationships, better service and a more pleasant visit. Knowing or not knowing how to say hello in Thai tells the other person something about the kind of person you are.
Thanks for the tip about Syzygies's manuscript.
Knowing Thai in Thailand helps, huh? Ya think?
Knowing a few words makes a BIG difference? Really, how is that? To make them giggle? I can do that on my own.
After sabai, sabai it's all useless sawadi-CRAP, me thinks.Look I agree with you. Not much talk is really required when it comes to sex. Speaking Thai can help just a little with girls that have no English at all. That is a bit rare I think. Can be help for girls that really like talking about themselves but don't know enough English to do it properly.
However I have had a fabulous time in bed with Cuban and Latin girls that only spoke Spanish and I did not. So virtually nothing could be communicated verbally at all. Also in a noisy bar, its quite difficult to communicate due to the noise level regardless of the language at times.
I reckon guys can be just fine using English but need to just remember to keep it simple and slow if the girl's English is weak. I do find it slightly amusing when a guy is rabbiting on in his own language on something complex and it is clearly going completely over the girl's head.
When I first came to Thailand and knew little Thai, it used to be both frustrating and yet fun trying to communicate with Thai girls, with fragments of English and fragments of Thai. Back 20 years ago, the girls usually had a lot less English than what they do these days, like often almost zero English.
I was forced to learn Thai as originally spending extended time with Thai girls who could not speak English. Significant effort involved over a long period, so I don't really recommend it if you don't really have to learn it, unless you have nothing better to do with your time.
Sir Lancelot
08-08-13, 20:43
Streetwalker7: "No way is there gorgeous beauties filling the stage close to closing"
Streetwalker7 (three days later) : "I'm only patronize R4 during prime-time hours. 9-11pm"
It's not like you to have strong opinions on things you freely admit you know nothing about! It reminds me of the Harold classic:
Streetwalker7: "Pattaya is full of ugly girls. I've never been though"
Ps. I can't quote you directly and I won't see your reply as you're on my 'ignore list'. Strangely I didn't put you on it, it must be some kind of guardian angel looking over me. Thank you guardian angel.
Paul Kausch
08-08-13, 21:45
Look I agree with you. Not much talk is really required when it comes to sex.
Significant effort involved over a long period, so I don't really recommend it if you don't really have to learn it, unless you have nothing better to do with your time.With an SW money is all you need.
The advantages of knowing a few phrases are when dealing with other aspects of a visit to Thailand. I make a point of using Thai for greetings, thank you, etcetera with people I encounter over the course of a day. Last December I spend a few weeks in a small hotel on Lang Suan. They quickly began greeting me by name and bent over backwards to exceed my expectations whenever I made a request. For example, I forgot to bring my voltage converter and asked if they had one I could borrow. They did not, but next day they delivered a box to my room that measured about a cubic foot. It converted voltage, amperage, provided clean power and surge protection. They bought it for the maintenance department but said I could use it for the duration of my stay.
Maintaining a healthy brain is an excellent reason for a fellow retiring in Thailand to learn the language. Acquiring new complex skills and mastering things like a new language are perhaps the best thing one can do to rejuvenate a brain and keep it young.
Member #4351
08-08-13, 22:41
The advantages of knowing a few phrases are when dealing with other aspects of a visit to Thailand. For example, I forgot to bring my voltage converter and asked if they had one I could borrow.You know how to ask for a voltage converter in Thai? That's very impressive.
So carry a passport copy but also hide the original in a secured pocket, just in case you really need it.Point taken, LS. But by having only unsecured pockets I have secured some fine BJs. It's a kind of risk / reward calculation and to each his own.
I think I will keep my zipper well oiled and the original (passport) in the hotel safe.
Paul Kausch
08-08-13, 23:50
You know how to ask for a voltage converter in Thai? That's very impressive.Yes. I said, "Do you have voltage converter?" The reply was, "What's that?" To which I said,"Ask someone in maintenance." Presto. Next day it appeared in my room.
In this post, I describe my experience with the Leggy Gal from Climax, along with her dick-ripping BBBJ. I also describe some troubling developments at Climax.
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I get into Climax at 12:45am on a Sat night, and it is full, although not as packed as I remembered it used to get on weekends. That's good. I walked around a little, knowing that my leggy friend and her skinny model would be in the back waiting for me. I wanted to see what else was on display.
There was plenty available. There were some stunners, but mostly regular girls. I would say that perhaps half a dozen girls I saw out of the 50 or so were Kumbu worthy. BUt after 5 minutes of this I realized that all I was doing was delaying getting my teeth into those gorgeous legs, so I spun around and pushed my way past the douche bag dancing and bumping everyone in a 20 foot radius.
The girls were there, bouncing up and down to the music. When I saw them, the leggy one smiles, but the thin one doesn't. I kissed her on the cheek anyway. As soon as I arrived they pointed to their 60% full glasses, and so we ordered drinks. We talked while waiting for the drinks, and when they arrived, something interesting happened. The waitress handed each of the girls a little ticket.
Huh?
Lady drinks in Climax? This never used to happen, but apparently now it does. I did NOT like this development. It meant girls were now incentivized to fleece us guys. A few years ago when I was active in Climax, I used to hook up with girls and after a round of drinks, they would say no to more drinks. I suspect that no longer happens. Plus those stupid bits of fried foods they cart around (chips, fried peas, etc.) for 100b, I suspect its the same deal because when I arrived, someone carrying that shit appeared promptly, the girls eagerly picked one out and then didn't even eat any of it. Later that night I asked Leggy what the deal was, and she was very undisturbed by it. She said, 'sure, Climax give tip for drink. ' How much of a tip? 15 baht. Pretty measly, considering they charge like a 1000% surcharge on drinks. In a later report I will report what the financial model for a Bacarra gogo girl are (something I learned just last night).
So as I'm getting ready to leave, the thin girl puts her hand out and says 'tip'. I said 'for what? ' and she says 'because I get my friend for you. ' Well, she did arrange the whole thing, so I asked her how much? And she said,"one hundre-" and she cuts herself off, continuing "one THOUSAND baht. ' Hah! So I took out a one hundred note and was giving it to her, and she got super pissed off at me. I mean, she grabbed my hand and shoved it back into my chest. Wow, never seen a Thai girl do that before. Wow. So I pulled out a 500 and gave it to her, thinking she'd be happy, but she bitched to her friend that I paid her only 500b. Ok. 500b for pimping her friend, I think that is unbelievably generous of me. I didn't want to sour the mood with Leggy, but come on. Well, I think that's the end of our little relationship. She kept sticking her hand out for the 1000, and I put the 500 in her palm, squeezed it tight, and said "Goodbye."
So out we go. As soon as we get into the real light, the same old thing happened. The beautiful woman in the night club changed and began to degenerate before my very eyes. She suddenly gained 30 pounds, and 7 years. I thought she was in her late twenties, but now she looked in her early-mid thirties. I had thought she was trim and tight, but she was looking to have some saddle bags. And worst of all, those fabulous legs that I had been salivating over for two days seemed to be a little too chunky. Oh dear.
I chalked it up to luck and extreme horniness, and decided to make the most of it. I suspected a mid-thirties broad (I think you have to be mid-thirties or older to be a broad) might know a thing or two and perhaps this would end in some wild sexual scene like never before. As we walked, her English also seemed to disappear. In the nightclub both tonight and previously, she had seemed eloquent and very expressive. Turns out there were a handful of very useful phrases she knew very well, but that was it. Shucks.
We get into the hotel and waltz through the lobby unobserved by the buzzing bell boys, receptionists and pseudo-managers. Once we get in, she runs into the bathroom to get some tissue because apparently she was sweating profusely, unbeknownst to me. When she reappeared I could see the sweat, dribbles all over her face. And as she approached me, I felt the heat emanating from her body a full 3 feet away. Dude, she was sweating like a cow. Wait, do cows sweat?
So I offered her a cool drink, which she gladly accepted. I offered her some refreshing naam pau, but she grabbed the Heineken, popped it open and chugged it down. I half expected her to belch as she wiped her mouth afterwards. So she murmurs something to the effect of 'I need to be drunk to do this', and when I asked for clarification, she snaps 'go shower! ' Umm, yeahhhhhh, umm, I kinda don't like, I mean it hurts my feelings when, aw fuck it, so I went to shower. As I showered the filth and stress from my body, I decided I was going to sink my teeth into those fucking legs, goddam it, I was going to get me some leg flesh, even if it meant dealing with angry, drunk, large-boned lady out there. She was in a foul mood, but goddam it, so was I. But there was only one uncivil person here, and it wasn't the non-sweating, non-beer-chugging, non-cussing, limp-dicked individual taking a shower.
I got out, and she runs passed me, barreling me over like a bull in Pamplona. She shuts the door tight, then locks it (?) , and the shower comes on. Dude, this is not good at all. Maybe it was her period? Maybe she needed a shot of meth? Who knows, but those legs awaited Kumbu-enamel. From the shower she says gently that she is shy, and so please don't peak. Well I couldn't now that the door is bolted.
She comes out, and she suddenly looked much better. Her demeanor has changed, her body seems relaxed, and she seems to have shed 5 years. She now looks in her early 30s, which is a much more respectable age for a WG, but she's smiling and seems more relaxed. She is wrapped tight in a towel, which barely covers her ginormous breasts. Holy cow: I had not even seen those bazooms, distracted as I was by her legs. My word Watson.
She sat next to me on the sofa and I looked down at her thighs. Mmmm, delicious volumes of firm meat. Tonight legs were on the menu, and Kumbu was ready to feast. So we chatted a bit, poor as her English was, and then she saunters over to the bed and climbs under the covers. She switches off all the lights, I mean it was pitch black. No, no, no, I got up and switched on some of the lights. I need to see that body.
So I snuggled into the covers next to her and we talked a bit more. As we did that, the towel around her breasts began to get loose, and it started to fall off just a little. I caught sight of nipple, and I could sense the promised land was near. Finally she stops with the yakking and she lays back a little and I hop on and take her for a ride. She felt like a solid ride, not too big but powerful and enough to get some umph out. Maybe a Ducati Monster 696?
I kissed her neck, left and right, and she smelled pretty good. I worked my way down and undid the towel with my teeth, and nuzzled into her breasts. Boing. My face bounced right back out.
I tried again to push my face into her breasts, and again, BOING.
I lifted my head and asked her 'silicone? ' and she nodded.
I did a little Seinfeld "Newman!"
So I kissed around a little, feeling the solid backing of the breast, and then wrapped my lips around the nipple, tightened as best I could and pried the nipples off their manufactored backing and started to suck them as vigorously. As fake boobies go, hers were really great. I mean, they were soft and malleable, and looked pretty damned good. But fake is fake, and it just ain't the same ramming your face into a pack of artificial chemicals. But I sucked away, just to get her motor running, so I could move on to bigger and leggier things.
I then moved down to her belly, which was remarkably flat for a big woman like this. I kissed her hips, and slipped my hand under her thigh, which felt solid, silky and absolutely fantastic. Her legs were going to be such a delight. But as I made my way southwards, I was waylaid by a pretty little pussy meowing at me out of nowhere. I had not even intended to do any DATY, but suddenly this pretty little thing was calling out to me for some attention. I may be a cold-hearted bastard, but even I cannot be cruel to cute little critters like that. And cute is the right word: it was so small, tight, and fantastically symmetrical. Her lips were tight, small and curled slightly inwards. Their color was not the more pedestrian pink or brown or purple, but a rather exotic, faint orange color. Her Bush was trimmed slightly, not to the point of being prickly, which is good.
So I did my thing, the usual Kumbu Tongue Wiggle, and she digged it I must say. She had a pert little clit that was tucked deep within the hood and I just could not jig it loose from there. It was stuck under the hood, and no matter what I did I could not gain direct access to it. So I rubbed it with my tongue from outside, and kept digging in there with my tongue, which she was really appreciating. Eventually, as she loosened up, I used my left hand to pull the skin above her pussy back to stretch the hood backward, and when I probed with my tongue tip, out popped the little clit. Hello little cutie! I poked it with my tongue and she gasped loud and quick, like this was the first time in years the little thing had seen the light of day, let along the tongue of man. Suddenly her hand was behind my head and ramming my face into her pussy with all her might. My nose bumped against her pubic bone and I lost my senses for a moment, as well as my grip on her clit, so I had to fight her thrashing to get back to where I was.
After that, it was a blur. She was a mad woman, grinding my head into her crotch like she wanted to crack my skull inside her pussy. I let her do it because, well, because it was fucking fun. I kept a grip on the foreskin to keep the clit exposed, and was now using the flat of my tongue to open-tongue massage the entire area, and she was moaning nice and loud.
I put my hands beneath her knees and her legs crooked over my hands. I then lifted her hips off the bed and in one quick swoop pulled my head beneath her hips and slapped my full tongue against her asshole from beneath, and wiped it frontwards across her asshole, then her taint, then her open pussy and finishing on her exposed clit. This was a single-motion salivating tongue-wipe of all her private parts, just like you see dogs doing to themselves (that is ambiguous: on this analogy, I intend Kumbu to be the dog, not the woman) and she ooohed very loudly. I did this 7-8 times and then got tired and went back to tonguing the clit.
About 5 minutes later, when my tongue was tiring (not cramping yet!) , she began to shudder. She flexed, pulled back, and shoved my head off to the side like a discarded piece of garbage. I flopped onto the bed next to her, my dick slapping against my belly, and I lay there wiping pussy juice from my nose, cheeks, forehead, chin and ears. And elbows and shoulders too, actually. She was a wet woman.
We lay there, silent for 5 minutes. She then turned over and smiled at me, and instead of saying something about how good I was, or complimenting my superb technique, she said 'you like to eat toot? ' I smiled. She was remarking about the move I did earlier where I one-motion licked from her asshole to the clit. Those who are able to read these long posts know all to well that Kumbu will never say no to an asshole (actually, not true: see below and tomorrow's post).
So I turn her over and gazed at her legs and ass. Her legs are super good. They are shapely, exactly the shape and proportions I like: thick but not too thick, shapely, good length calves, well toned thighs, great skin, and lovely back of the knee (don't ask). Her ass is good too, but a little bigger than I would prefer. I mean, it was just a tad jiggly, which is good at times, but it was a little out of proportion to the rest of her. This too I had not noticed in Climax. So she was a very big girl, with big fake boobs, a big natural ass, and big strong legs.
I massaged her legs a little, pressing the calves, squeezing the thighs, rubbing the hammies. I then lay my face down and rubbed my face gently into the back of her legs, and little Kumbu began to purr. I licked the back of her knee, and then up to her ass, where her butthole was exposed. But I saw some beauty marks / moles right on the buttcheeks surrounding her butthole, and wondered if they might actually be warts. Hmm, ok, better back off at this point.
Sensing my hesitation, she turns over and pushes me down onto the bed. She goes in for the BBBJ, and I lay back ready for the pleasuring. Here's where we see if the long-cited notion that older gals have skills, younger gals have looks is true or not. I've worked hard for this, I think I deserve some relaxation time, come on baby, let's see whatchoo got.
A flash of bright white light engulfed me, and I was blinded momentarily. I lost all sense of where I was, immersed in blinding, bright white light. I suddenly had a vision, and it was not a vision of beauty or tranquility, but rather a vision of horror and misery. I saw bleary looking people, trudging through the snow, wearing dark, old clothes, some with gold stars emblazoned upon their lapels, towards an encampment of some sort, with great billowing smoke coming out of large chimneys. I saw masses of graves filled with human skulls, and children crying for no reason. I felt the pain of the murdered masses, the lost children, and the battered wives. In that moment, I saw and felt the pain of the world, and emerged a more enlightened man for it. What was the source of this new-found illumination? Was Kumbu finally developing a sense of moral responsibility? Was he finally being empathetic to those who suffer needlessly around him?
No, it turns out Leggy was fucking tearing little Kumbu to shreds with her goddawful BBBJ. I am fucking not kidding guys, this was without a doubt the worst attempt at a BBBJ I have EVER Had. It hurt so bad I could not last more than 5 seconds, and I later found out that she literally tore my skin. I mean, she fucking ripped my dick with her attempted BBBJ. How the HELL does that happen?
Well, first, there were the teeth, oh the teeth (can you hear my sobbing?). I guess she thought teeth on dick feels really good. No, the tooth-on-dick action was definitely not appreciated. She obviously does not have one (a dick, I mean) , nor has she ever had one, so she has no clue what one feels like. And obviously no one has ever taken the time to educate her not to dig your teeth into the base of the penis and then drag your teeth deep into the penis all the way up the underside. And that's because, well, how do you tell someone that their BBBJ was the worst fucking experience of your entire life? You can't, so you just gently but quickly pry her head as far away from your sensitive regions as you can and try to mend your wounds.
Second, she did this terrible thing where she grabbed the base of my dick with her hand really, really tight, like I imagine on of those African ladies would do to little Kumbu, and then with her teeth and tight lips, she stretches the underskin out to the point she actually ripped the skin. The next day, I kid you not, I had trouble walking.
So I literally lasted 5 seconds before I pulled her head up, gasped for air, and then pretended to fondle her breasts just to buy some time to recover. Wow. She asks 'you have condom? ' and without further ado I lunged for something to protect my quivering, fast-diminishing little guy. I took as long as I could because I was weak in the knees and I needed time to recover. Once I was ready, I decided I needed revenge. No, not to hurt her back, but to get the hardest most physical fuck out of her possible.
She was lying on her back, and I grunted to her to flip over. She obliged, and I climbed ontop of her and gruffly muscled my way inside, caveman style. She was flat on her belly, me pumping pussy via her monstrous butt. That was one delicious sight, and the vision coupled with my un-Kumbu-like aggression in fucking, and I began to crescendo rather quickly. Somewhere in the back of my mind a lone sorrowful voice sang out, 'Oh Kumbuuuuuuu, remember the missioooooooon. ' I ignored that sad little asshole and fucked my way to oblivion, cumming, groaning, regretting, and relaxing all at once.
She wanted little Kumbu and his Trojan sheath out of her faster than a Trojan commits an NCAA violation (for non-Bruins, that's very, very fast) , so she grabs little Kumbu by the base, holding him and the Trojan, and gently pulls him free, and she slaps me on the leg and instructs me to shower.
So as I shower, I look down at my limp, red penis. Oh little Kumbu, my little guy, I'm so sorry I could not protect you. You'll be ok buddy, you just need some sleep and then a really nice butt crack to cradle in for a while. I then start to evaluate this girl. She's bossy, kind of bitchy, a little older than I like, has poor English skills, sweats profusely, drinks like a suicidal sailor, cusses accordingly, probably has warts on her ass, has fake boobs, and has a killer BBBJ (literally). But she has legs and an ass. Hmm, it's a close one, but I think I shall have to repeat. I just need to stay clear of her mouth.
So I go out, slip her the 2000b fee, and watch as she high tails it out of the room. And to my relief, there was silence in my room, and I sat there, dazed, for 20 minutes. When I awoke from my daze, it was 3am. The good thing was there was no work on Sunday morning. The bad thing was I am likely still jet lagged, and so I will be awake in 4 hours. Fuck.
You know how to ask for a voltage converter in Thai? That's very impressive.LOL. I speak Thai but even I had to look that one up in the Dictionary. Doesn't come up in normal conversation.
เครื่องแปลงไฟ khreuuang(F)-bplaaeng(M)-fai(M)
khreuuang(F) - machine or device
bplaaeng(M) - to change, alter, adjust something
fai(M) - fire, electricity, electric light
CorporateMalaya
08-09-13, 11:20
A flash of bright white light engulfed me.....
No, it turns out Leggy was fucking tearing little Kumbu to shreds with her goddawful BBBJ. I am fucking not kidding guys, this was without a doubt the worst attempt at a BBBJ I have EVER Had. It hurt so bad I could not last more than 5 seconds, and I later found out that she literally tore my skin. I mean, she fucking ripped my dick with her attempted BBBJ. How the HELL does that happen?
Well, first, there were the teeth, oh the teeth (can you hear my sobbing?). I guess she thought teeth on dick feels really good. No, the tooth-on-dick action was definitely not appreciated. She obviously does not have one (a dick, I mean) , nor has she ever had one, so she has no clue what one feels like. And obviously no one has ever taken the time to educate her not to dig your teeth into the base of the penis and then drag your teeth deep into the penis all the way up the underside. And that's because, well, how do you tell someone that their BBBJ was the worst fucking experience of your entire life? You can't, so you just gently but quickly pry her head as far away from your sensitive regions as you can and try to mend your wounds.Master Kumbu,
We are so happy that you escaped this event.
Strange that a location like climax has such poorly trained souls who have graduated to their late thirties without even knowing the basics.
Any pics to help us avoid a mistaken encounter?
Any pics to help us avoid a mistaken encounter?Sorry CM, I stopped taking pictures a while ago: too much risk for me. I'm not good enough about preventing them from inadvertently spreading all over the place, and who knows when one will pop up (eg, I have multiple google accounts, and google + synched to auto-update pictures from my phone for some of those accounts, but I can't keep track of which).
However, here is as detailed a description of the girl as I can muster. Her name is Mani, around 5'4", big legs, big ass, redish hair, cut short (like a mini-bob) , with a sharp nose. She has a tattoo on her right thigh, just above the skirt line. It is of some guy pulling stuff from between his legs and throwing them somewhere. When I saw this I laughed out loud, and she got pissed off because it is apparently very sacred to her.
She hangs out in Climax towards the back typically, on the side of the toilets (at one of those tables on that side). She usually tries to get a table right next to the walkway (each time I have seen her, she was at the second from last table, so this may be her table). As I said, she hangs out with a skinny model type, so if you see this Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill couple, I would proceed with caution.
I'm not sure you want to avoid her. I mean, as you will see, I did repeat with her a couple of nights later, but you just need to know what to avoid (like the penis ripping).
Streetwalker7
08-09-13, 12:07
Streetwalker7: "No way is there gorgeous beauties filling the stage close to closing"
Streetwalker7 (three days later) : "I'm only patronize R4 during prime-time hours. 9-11pm"
It's not like you to have strong opinions on things you freely admit you know nothing about! It reminds me of the Harold classic:
Streetwalker7: "Pattaya is full of ugly girls. I've never been though"
Ps. I can't quote you directly and I won't see your reply as you're on my 'ignore list'. Strangely I didn't put you on it, it must be some kind of guardian angel looking over me. Thank you guardian angel.Now that we know Kumbu likes girls with thick body parts its no suprise the line-up at Rainbow 4 near closing was to his liking.
You know how to ask for a voltage converter in Thai? That's very impressive.Well. One has to have be able to discuss topics with the girls, hasn't he? LOL
Paul Kausch
08-09-13, 17:22
LOL. I speak Thai but even I had to look that one up in the Dictionary. Doesn't come up in normal conversation.
Khreuuang (F). Machine or device.
Bplaaeng (M). To change, alter, adjust something.
&8203; fai (M). Fire, electricity, electric lightThank you. I'll add this to my spreadsheet with Thai words add phrases.
Well. One has to have be able to discuss topics with the girls, hasn't he? LOLMany guys are looking for intelligent girls to have a great conversation. For me, mongering is more about sex, and great and intelligent conversation is not one of my major requirements. It's only when you are going to spend days with a girl, that communication really matters much. My GF of several years on and off, doesn't really speak any English, unless she has had a few drinks (LOL). If she gets annoyed with me, she may even switch to Issan dialect even though I don't follow that too well. An ex GF, when angry would speak plain Thai, but at high pace and I would really struggle to keep up.
All girls expect me to understand Thai perfectly, as they always would cite that I have had several Thai GFs and ought to know Thai pretty well by now, after 20 years.
Streetwalker7
08-09-13, 17:58
Many guys are looking for intelligent girls to have a great conversation. For me, mongering is more about sex, and great and intelligent conversation is not one of my major requirements. It's only when you are going to spend days with a girl, that communication really matters much. My GF of several years on and off, doesn't really speak any English, unless she has had a few drinks (LOL). If she gets annoyed with me, she may even switch to Issan dialect even though I don't follow that too well. An ex GF, when angry would speak plain Thai, but at high pace and I would really struggle to keep up.
All girls expect me to understand Thai perfectly, as they always would cite that I have had several Thai GFs and ought to know Thai pretty well by now, after 20 years.Can you cite statistics of how many of us are looking for intelligent girls for great conversation. The exception being goatscrot.
Most of us speak Thai like shit and vice versa with the girls per English.
Member #4387
08-09-13, 22:24
I am by far an expert and does not have all the answers but I will regarding to Climax "brag" a little of myself as in Bangkok this is the club I by far have visited the most. To be modest lets say I have visit Climax 150 times tha last 5 years as I travel in and out of Bangkok easily 10. 20 times a year and have 2 to 5 visits to Climax per stay. I have never ever heard of such you describe and girls getting commision. I can of course have missed out on it or they have started with this new deal since my last visit the 3 of August. I have never had girl or girls (and it starts to become a big bunch of girls if we add them up, hehe) at my table pushing me to buy me drinks. I agree some of the staff vendouring chips, peanuts etc can be irritating but I just tell the floor manager to get rid of them and leave me alone (I usualy give manager 1K in tip as he also sometimes picks girls to me if I am lazy and so far he allways comes back with a 3 holer. Great guy). I allways take the bottleservice for 1 or 2 bottles and sometimes even bring the girl for the night friends over to my table as it puts her in bright shining light and glues the aftercomming sexact in a positive direction.
I am pretty sure I have noticed your girl as you describe her. Even if she is a tad to fullbodied to my liking I have allways coinsidered her to be a nice fuck. The BJ I have never speculated and I guess I never will after reading your reports, hehe.
So next time hook up with the manager (nice fellow wearing black blazer) and ask him what is the deal these days. Say hello to him from pilotskogis.
But as a second thought these days I feel pretty much my time is up in Climax as my face is fairly known amongst the girls frequents Climax often. I like the fresh faces best and the old ones (some of them I have ofcourse besexed) don't like competition one bit. This creates often some dramas as freelancegirls are also jelous / businessminded. I have been kicked, spat at and slapped because I will not redo a girl. I guess this is just a part of the game. I will start doing BASH and Levels more next visit in a couple of weeks as they have a promising clientel girlwice.
Many guys are looking for intelligent girls to have a great conversation. For me, mongering is more about sex, and great and intelligent conversation is not one of my major requirements. It's only when you are going to spend days with a girl, that communication really matters much. My GF of several years on and off, doesn't really speak any English, unless she has had a few drinks (LOL). If she gets annoyed with me, she may even switch to Issan dialect even though I don't follow that too well. An ex GF, when angry would speak plain Thai, but at high pace and I would really struggle to keep up.
All girls expect me to understand Thai perfectly, as they always would cite that I have had several Thai GFs and ought to know Thai pretty well by now, after 20 years.Of course I was a bit kidding and I agree, even if we don't need to sort the world topics, a minimum degree of English can help even in the ST. Especially if one takes a girl from a bar and checks the chemistry before.
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Tony Hoeprano
08-10-13, 04:11
I guess I should give Climax a fair shot again, but my one and only experience was a bad one. (albeit 2 years ago or so) I chose a light skinned gal, had somewhat of a Lucy Leiu look to her. Once I started pounding away, her pussy smelled like the Klong Toey fish market LOL. Just to finish the deed, I had to close my eyes and think of the scene in Fast Times at Ridgemont high where Phoebe Cates is topless
Ah, and the same night I conversed with a gal next to me, got no vibe from her, so I ceased communication, no use in beating a dead horse and she wasn't all that in the first place. Next thing you know a server comes round with a Heineken and she points to me to pick up the tab. Of course I tell that silly beeeyatch she need to step off, no way was I paying for her beer.
Right or wrong, I came to the conclusion Climax was full of money grubbers and girls with the Mary Rotten Crotch syndrome
Paul Kausch
08-10-13, 04:42
I guess I should give Climax a fair shot again, but my one and only experience was a bad one.
Right or wrong, I came to the conclusion Climax was full of money grubbers and girls with the Mary Rotten Crotch syndromeSpeaking of venues full of money grubbers with rotten pussies, has anyone been to the new and improved Nana Disco? I believe it's been open for 2+ weeks now.
Streetwalker7
08-10-13, 04:57
Speaking of venues full of money grubbers with rotten pussies, has anyone been to the new and improved Nana Disco? I believe it's been open for 2+ weeks now.Maybe thats where all the hott Rainbow girls are now.
Friday night all Rainbows full were of horny men. I actually saw some barfining too.
I saw what looked like auditions for new Angelwitch 2 going on. Is it possible for a girl to fail an audition. LOL. Must be getting ready to open. I don't like it. Got enough bars as it is.
Arrived on Thursday night (1am) , but rather than venture out half-dead (24 hours of travel time plus a 13 hour time-zone difference takes a lot out of a guy) , I waited until Friday evening to start the fun. *I hit Nana at about 8pm; everything was already in full swing and Rainbow 2 was a calling. *Not too crowded when I entered, mostly Asian customers (Korean and Japanese). A generally amicable group, though I didn't chat any of them up. *The lineup was, well, rather impressive. *Yes. I am coming from the US, and I absolutely adore Asian girls, so I'm a bit biased. But I read this forum regularly and find many guys complaining about the quality / attractiveness of the girls in the bars (in Thailand and elsewhere). *If you couldn't find at least two girls in Rainbow 2 this night that you thought were attractive. Well, why even bother going to Nana? *Or Bangkok for that matter? *The girls looked good. *If you watch adult films (and I am guessing many readers of this forum do). Think Kat or Keeani Lei. I definitely saw some similarities. *One girl in particular. Probably the skinniest one there. Caught my eye. *I smiled at her, she smiled back. The usual routine. I invited her over for a drink and we chatted. Reasonably good English, playful, didn't mind my wandering hands. *After two tequila shots she asks if I will buy her sister, who also works in the bar a drink. *I figure sure, why the hell not. *Her sister is a few years older and certainly attractive. *Not at all over weight, but compared to her anorexic-hot sister looks a bit pudgy. * (It's like putting me next to a Black guy. I look extra white. Everything is relative). Anyway, it's very obvious that I want to bar fine skinny sister. And she's more than interested. *She then asks if I can release her sister for the evening as well. *Again, I'm not overly interested in sister, and I make it clear I'm looking to bring skinny home with me. *No problem, she says. We'll hear some live music, have some drinks, then you go home with skinny sister. *I'm kind of feeling the bait and switch here, but I decide to go with it. *True to their word, there's drinking, and live music, and fun is had by all. *Now we hadn't discussed short time or long time, or even compensation rates at this point, but it's time to go back to the room. *Skinny wants her sister to come with her and this is where I figure I'm going to get the old switcheroo. *But, long story short. Skinny stays for a few hours, and when she's ready to go, sister picks up where she left off, stays the night and makes my morning a very pleasant one. *Compensation was at my discretion and I kept with the prevailing rates. Nothing extraordinary. * (Full disclosure. I later found out they're half-sisters; different fathers). *Let's see what Night Two has in store.
Can you cite statistics of how many of us are looking for intelligent girls for great conversation. The exception being goatscrot.
Most of us speak Thai like shit and vice versa with the girls per English.No I don't collect stats on that. But I have read some guys talking about be bored with just fucking and wanting to meet more intelligent office girls for good quality conversation. Some guys just love to talk and need a girl to listen to them and pretend to understand. It's not me. I prefer quiet girls that don't talk too much. No yack yack yack, for me.
One fun bargirl I know, just talks too much. I would have to tell to shut up and go to sleep, as was 5AM already, and I wanted to sleep a bit early. Hence normally only take her ST. I do not mind if the girl I screw has really low intelligence. As long as she has good attitude and fun not too serious.
I actually help support one girl of seemingly low intelligence who has no English, speaks Thai not clearly (originates from mountains of Myanmar), cannot read or write, but is a very good character girl. She works but for very low pay. I do not screw her so has become more like an adopted daughter. Both her parents are dead, and other relatives are no use, so she needs some help. She is good looking so I sort of expected she would eventually get a Thai husband, but does not seem to trust Thai guys. Perhaps its best to send her to English school.
Speaking of venues full of money grubbers with rotten pussies, has anyone been to the new and improved Nana Disco? I believe it's been open for 2+ weeks now.Coincidentally, yes, on Monday night. Will post a report when I have access to my computer. I'm on my phone right now. Did not take anyone, but there was not much to choose from. Details to follow.
Streetwalker7
08-10-13, 08:26
No I don't collect stats on that. But I have read some guys talking about be bored with just fucking and wanting to meet more intelligent office girls for good quality conversation. Some guys just love to talk and need a girl to listen to them and pretend to understand. It's not me. I prefer quiet girls that don't talk too much. No yack yack yack, for me.
One fun bargirl I know, just talks too much. I would have to tell to shut up and go to sleep, as was 5AM already, and I wanted to sleep a bit early. Hence normally only take her ST. I do not mind if the girl I screw has really low intelligence. As long as she has good attitude and fun not too serious.
I actually help support one girl of seemingly low intelligence who has no English, speaks Thai not clearly (originates from mountains of Myanmar) , cannot read or write, but is a very good character girl. She works but for very low pay. I do not screw her so has become more like an adopted daughter. Both her parents are dead, and other relatives are no use, so she needs some help. She is good looking so I sort of expected she would eventually get a Thai husband, but does not seem to trust Thai guys. Perhaps its best to send her to English school.You very entertaining. I don't know if you pulling our penises or not. LOL.
We need more office girl stories. I especially love those office girls who go to Pattaya on their hollidays. LOL.
Thai boys- the good ones aren't stupid. If I were one I surely wouldn't be interested in your Mymanar girl.
Can you cite statistics of how many of us are looking for intelligent girls for great conversation. The exception being goatscrot.
Most of us speak Thai like shit and vice versa with the girls per English.For a sex sesh, I don't require the girl to be a rocket scientist. But if I were to spend anymore time with one, more time being more than a 90 min session, she would need to have more to offer than her sn*tch.
Streetwalker7
08-10-13, 18:01
I don't know if it was planned.
Unless the opening of AW2 in NEP was a soft one, it looked disastrous. On your way to R2 you might not even notice it was open for business. I, with a highly trained eye, noticed and took a look inside. Not impressed- don't even know what I saw. LOL. Saw no customers near the door and saw a few girls on stage. Couldn't tell if they were farang oriented girlss so I will withhold comment for now.
Skipped R4. R2 and 1 was overflowing with customers. Something starnge going on there. R2 is getting way more customers than even during the recent high season.
I even saw one R2 girl who never ever gets barfined get a barfine.
Streetwalker7
08-11-13, 03:22
Arrived on Thursday night (1am) , but rather than venture out half-dead (24 hours of travel time plus a 13 hour time-zone difference takes a lot out of a guy) , I waited until Friday evening to start the fun. *I hit Nana at about 8pm; everything was already in full swing and Rainbow 2 was a calling. *Not too crowded when I entered, mostly Asian customers (Korean and Japanese). A generally amicable group, though I didn't chat any of them up. *The lineup was, well, rather impressive. *Yes. I am coming from the US, and I absolutely adore Asian girls, so I'm a bit biased. But I read this forum regularly and find many guys complaining about the quality / attractiveness of the girls in the bars (in Thailand and elsewhere). *If you couldn't find at least two girls in Rainbow 2 this night that you thought were attractive. Well, why even bother going to Nana? *Or Bangkok for that matter? *The girls looked good. *If you watch adult films (and I am guessing many readers of this forum do). Think Kat or Keeani Lei. I definitely saw some similarities. *One girl in particular. Probably the skinniest one there. Caught my eye. *I smiled at her, she smiled back. The usual routine. I invited her over for a drink and we chatted. Reasonably good English, playful, didn't mind my wandering hands...Why is it guys who pay prevailing market rates refuse to tell us what they are. LOL. Sounds like you had 2 long times, so I'm thinking 4500 times 2,600 barfine times 2 for well over 10,000 all-in.
I don't care what you pay. But guys want the monetary details. Its just how we are.
Rainbow 1 has prices printed on a card-seem very resonable for the better girls. St-2500, lt4500. And lt applies only if girl even does it. I see many times a girl won't even blink an eye and just refuse it.
You got 2 girls who went it early in the evening. Hot ones too. LOL.
I can only think of one anorexic type. Does she have braces and have shoulder length hair. Flat chested?
Somewhere15
08-11-13, 04:25
I usualy give manager 1K in tip as he also sometimes picks girls to me if I am lazy and so far he allways comes back with a 3 holer. Great guy.I guess the manager make probably even more then the girl.
1K from you and at least also 1 K from the girl even without spreading his leggs.
Looks like the Hotel concierge in the past; a fantastic job, not making dirty hands en very well paid.
Streetwalker7
08-11-13, 05:57
Rainbow 4 vs Rainbow 2.
If you like thick legged girls Rainbow 4 is for you. LOL.
Rainbow 4 high percentage of hooligan type clientle. Rainbow 2 hooligan statistically insignifinat as customers. LOL.
Rainb 4 girl higher avg wieght. LOL. Could carry triplets and you may not even notice. LOL.
Rainb 2 girls smaller with some darn nice looking asses. LOL.
If you like Asian style girls Rainbow 2 is the curretn undisputed NEP champion at the moment. LOL.
You very entertaining. I don't know if you pulling our penises or not. LOL.
Thai boys- the good ones aren't stupid. If I were one I surely wouldn't be interested in your Mymanar girl.I don't think its funny. I just write straight boring stuff. No pulling of chain or anything.
The Myanmar girl is "Thai Yai" (from the north mountains) so not a normal Burmese and pretty so plenty of Thai guys want to do her, which doesn't mean much. Thai men are marrying even quite ugly Thai Yai girls. I met a few cases. They take what they can get. Same as Farangs take what they can get.
I am by far an expert and does not have all the answers but I will regarding to Climax "brag" a little of myself as in Bangkok this is the club I by far have visited the most. To be modest lets say I have visit Climax 150 times tha last 5 years .Skogi, I too had never seen this before. I've been there probably around 100 times, but the last time was 3 years ago. Never before this time have I seen this happen, and so it would be nice to get confirmation from someone else who has been there recently. Furthermore, I think if you do the bottle service, and if you tip the way you do, you are unlikely to be nickel and dimed this way. They probably treat customers like you differently. I've done the bottle service several times, and in my experience, you are treated very differently. The wait staff keep leachers away from you, they bring talented girls to your table, and all the girls are interested in joining you. But you need to drop several thousand baht to do that, and I just don't do that anymore.
So if anyone goes to Climax anytime soon, I would be interested to know if I was somehow wrong. To me, it seems unlikely that both I misperceived the exchange of drink tickets between the waiter and the two girls, AND that somehow Leggy's confirmation of the tip policy was an error / lie.
This is the first of a 2 part report on a night out with a fellow ISG member. This report has no sex, but tells of our voyage through NEP and Soi Cowboy. Part 2 tells of a pretty interesting SW pickup from Nana Hotel parking lot.
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I awoke at 7:20am, roughly four hours since falling asleep. I have been seriously sleep deprived in the last 10 days. I have not had even a single night in that span where I slept more than 6 hours, the sequence has been: 2 hours. 3 hours. 3 hours. 5 hours. 5 hours. 1 hour. 6 hours. 4 hours. 4 hours, and now 4 hours. Humans were not built to live like this, and especially this human. I was tired, and I needed to do something about it. Umm, how about some fucking?
I decided against that, although it was tempting. My dick was still hurting from the night before with the Leggy girl and her ridiculous BBBJ. I needed a break. So I took the morning off to go shopping and native watching. I made the mistake of going to the Siam Paragon, which was a wall-to-wall zoo that day. Normally on Sundays it is pretty bad, but there was a huge thunderstorm going on, forcing everyone inside, and it was just painful and tiring. I regret wasting my day off like that.
In the evening, I was scheduled to meet up with an ISG member, who we shall refer to as Bluey, and then I had to make some phone calls back State side, at around midnight. So the plan was to hit some gogo bars, and if anything turns up, I will ST until midnight. But if not, then Bluey and I would make the most of our time in this beautiful city.
We met at R3 just after 8:30, where I was looking for that pretty thing from the last night. Her number is 81, in case anyone wants to go check her out. If / when you do, you will see that she has a pretty face, large legs and ass, and a little bit of a fuck-off attitude. I suspect this is entirely a YMMV issue (I. E, the fuck-off attitude may be Kumbu specific) , since the following night I saw her giving a couple of white dudes one hell of a good time. Luckily for us, she was not there that night, and so we motored on.
We then went to Spanky's, looking for the shower show, and well, it was ok. The girls in there are very, very mediocre, and the shower show was rather tepid. Neither of us were enthused. So off we went to Angelwitch, where the show had just started. Bluey spied a pretty little thing, but was hesitant about pulling her, so I sprang for the LD. This made Bluey rather nervous, but I assured him that we were cool: I was just oiling the works, so to speak. So he chats the girl up while Mama San and the thick-rimmed bespectacled waitress remember me from previous nights and start mothballing to the Kumbu flame. Mama San asks where I am from, and when I tell her, she says "oooh, I am from there too." Mama san, you maw, chai may? No, no, no, she means her sister lives there, and so she's from there too. Ok. So I ask her where in the States, and she says Texas. I know the lone star state reasonably well, can't say I like it, but I know it, so I ask her where in Texas, and she says New Orleans. Don't mess with N'Orleans?
Anyway, Bluey don't like the girl, so we bail. We go to R4 where Bluey had seen someone earlier, but no luck. Next on to R1 downstairs, where something interesting happens. We are discussing our preferred body types, and Bluey already knows what I like from my posts. So he was educating me on his preferred body type when something catches my eye off in the corner: a dark skinned beauty whose body had precise Kumbu-specific dimensions. She has superb legs, and a super, super ass. I'm talking perfect for Kumbu: pert, round, firm and oh so inviting. And her face is fantastic, wow, how have I missed this jewel before? Bluey sees her and says 'Oh, I see what you're looking for, yeah, that's nice. '
So I get her down for a chat, and let's just say I did not have to explain to her what happens when you mix copper sulfate with sulfuric acid. She knew as well as I did: you get chemistry. We were chatting, giggling, joking, teasing, it was just so damned refreshing to be talking so easily with someone. And I noticed she had these gorgeous eyes that were looking at me like a little puppy dog, she was downright gorgeous. So she asks me how old I am, and we play that old game of if you guess my age right, I'll give you 100b, and if you are within 3 yrs, you get 50, and within 5 years, you get 20. She hit my age right on the head in the first go. Usually, slightly more diplomatic girls will purposefully under-estimate, just to flatter you, but this girl was either too naive or too greedy to bullshit. It was the former, as you shall soon see. So I pulled out a 100 and grudgingly handed it over as she laughed her ass of at the hilarity of it all.
So now it is my turn to guess her age. I take a look at her, and I realize she is young, younger than I usually go for. So I guess 22. She says no. And I think, phew, I try not to go with girls that young, so I guess 24, and she looks dismayed, and says no, so I say 25, and she looks away from me, not knowing how to respond. Wait, you mean she's younger than 22? Long story short, she claimed to be 18 years old.
So I asked her how long she had been working in R3, and she said that was her first night, and in fact this was the first LD that anyone had bought her, and the 100b was her first tip ever.
Oh shit, this spelled disaster. What if she is not 18? And even if she is, can you imagine being her first ever? I did that once with a girl in Pattaya (I think from Super Baby) , and it was pretty bad. I was not ready to make the same mistake again, so unfortunate as it was, I decided to bail. Bluey, later, was quizzing me about why I was not interested, and it boiled down to this: at 18, while she is technically legal, she is in my mind still a child. Or at least she has childness within her still. In America, she would be a frickin' high school senior. And I am not digging little Kumbu into a high school senior.
So off we go. We hit Lollipop, where we were hustled big time. As soon as we sat down, two girls came and sat next to us, uninvited, and started laying their hands all over us. Lady Drinks emerged soon, and hands met crotches, and butt flesh was squeezed. Sadly, I think Bluey's girl was a post-op, but my girl was thin, light, and maybe late twenties in age. But I used her to exercise my fingers, and that's about it. But we soon bailed, and decided to make a run to Soi Cowboy.
We grab a taxi at the intersection of soi 4 and Suk, and by the time we are up around soi 11 or so I notice that the driver failed to switch on the meter. So I told him to switch it on, and he said 'ni, ni, ni', meaning it is just here, no need for the meter. Bluey and I looked at each other like, 'this ain't good'. We round the corner to soi 23, and he stops in front of a gogo bar on that soi, around 20 yards down from soi Cowboy itself, and he says to go inside this joint. I asked him how much for the taxi fare, and he said to just go into the bar. So I figured he had a deal with the bar where if he drops off customers who go into the bar, he gets his fare paid by the bar. I've seen this at the nightclubs like Spicey and Bossy, but never with a gogo bar. But hey, no fare for me, that's cool.
So Bluey and I go in, and the pickings are pretty meager. We both order water and as we wait, the tout comes and says the taxi driver wants to get paid. Bluey and I figure that if we have to pay a taxi fare, then fuck this sorry-ass gogo bar, so we trot outside and there's the guy with his hand out. He says '100 baht', and I balked, countering 40 baht, and he balked. I know better than to cross a taxi driver, even one that is clearly hustling me, so I pulled out three 20s, and he takes them and splits. He clearly got the better of this deal, but the difference between me paying the expected 45b fare, or 60b, or 300b for two waters in the gogo bar, I think 60b ain't too bad.
We start walking away, and then there's the little matter of the gogo bar, where we had a drink order in and we bailed before receiving or paying for the drinks. The mama san shouts out to the tout to go get us, and he calls us back. Uh-oh. This was a little delicate. But I just told the guy what had happened: 'taxi man say if we go inside gogo bar, we no pay taxi. But then he want money, so we no go into gogo. Sorry, ok? ' and the guy understood, and gave us a little waive. The mama san was none too happy, but before anything else could happen, Bluey and I had turned the corner into soi Cowboy.
First stop was Bacarra, which was packed to the hilt. It must have been 11:30pm on a Sunday, and there was no sitting room downstairs. We went upstairs, and saw little in the way of attractiveness, and so we tried again downstairs, where we found a spot in the corner. We had a decent view, and Bluey spotted a tasty treat. And truth be told, I like his taste in ladies. She was tall, slender, and such a delectable looking spinner. She did have peroxide hair, but Bluey went for it anyway.
I had to bail at that point, so I leave Bluey in the able hands of this little lady. I ran home, feeling decidedly pissed off with life. I was not getting anywhere, and BKK was frustrating me tonight. What's more I was feeling time slipping away, given that my departure from this great city was less than five days away. I couldn't afford to let this night slip away. Add the fact that I was severely sleep deprived, and we had a cocktail of negativity which boiled over in a rather pissy ISG posting that night. I got back to the hotel to be welcomed by a message saying that my phone calls to America had to be delayed. So I had to sit and wait, further exacerbating my sense of losing time. Anyway, it was in that time I posted to ISG. No apologies, I meant everything I said, it just came off a little less diplomatic and humorous than my usual self.
My next post tells of what I did after my phone calls, and how I encountered an interesting FL in the Nana Hotel parking lot. She was great, but troubling at the same time.
Streetwalker7
08-11-13, 10:46
And in a country rightly known for so many beautiful women, why is it that many working girls are so unattractive, and so unrepresentative of the average woman?
Thailand is truly a land of beautiful women, but the hottest don't do that. They don't need to.
Credit goes to man of wood for the above. Don't know if can use real ID or not.
Hot girls don't have to sell pussy to us. Especial city ones.
So what we are left with are guys touting thick legged ones and anorexic ones. LOL.
I am by far an expert and does not have all the answers but I will regarding to Climax "brag" a little of myself as in Bangkok this is the club I by far have visited the most. To be modest lets say I have visit Climax 150 times tha last 5 years as I travel in and out of Bangkok easily 10. 20 times a year and have 2 to 5 visits to Climax per stay.Is there a "Brazilian-looking" Thai girl still doing the rounds in Climax? Think she was called Laaya, I hooked up with her but unfortunately got sick when we got back to my hotel so couldn't road test her properly. Claimed to have a job in marketing but was far too connected in Climax not to be on the take.
Feelz Good
08-11-13, 20:14
To all who participate on this site, thanks for the intell. I am really looking forward to my upcoming virgin trip of 14 days this Fall. In your opinion, would it benefit me to bring sex toys for my escapades with the ladies? Is it cheaper and better to purchase them in Bangkok? Would I get extra effort, time and pops from the ladies if I put extra effort into their pleasure? It has worked for me in the US, just wondering if anybody has experienced this or has an opinion.
Arrived on Thursday night (1am) , but rather than venture out half-dead (24 hours of travel time plus a 13 hour time-zone difference takes a lot out of a guy) , * (Full disclosure. I later found out they're half-sisters; different fathers). *Let's see what Night Two has in store.You should be aware that thai girls often refer of their friends as sisters. Nothing in common and sometime not even the village.
In your opinion, would it benefit me to bring sex toys for my escapades with the ladies? Is it cheaper and better to purchase them in Bangkok? Would I get extra effort, time and pops from the ladies if I put extra effort into their pleasure? It has worked for me in the US, just wondering if anybody has experienced this or has an opinion.Thai girls, in general, are not sophisticated in sex. Some of them have never known about DATY till they played the trade with western customers. Bring one toy but don't expect wonders.
Seems thenphlippnes are more kinky to sex games and their 3-some are real, but I am getting OT.
Streetwalker7
08-12-13, 02:54
To all who participate on this site, thanks for the intell. I am really looking forward to my upcoming virgin trip of 14 days this Fall. In your opinion, would it benefit me to bring sex toys for my escapades with the ladies? Is it cheaper and better to purchase them in Bangkok? Would I get extra effort, time and pops from the ladies if I put extra effort into their pleasure? It has worked for me in the US, just wondering if anybody has experienced this or has an opinion.You going to find this hard to believe. LOL.
But for the majority of girls its just a job. They don't care whether you pleausre them or not. Once they get you as a customer they thinking about the next one, not how many orgasme you can give them.
This isn't to say that you can't have fun with them. Just realize you are not their boyfriend or lover. You are customer!
And in a country rightly known for so many beautiful women, why is it that many working girls are so unattractive, and so unrepresentative of the average woman?
Thailand is truly a land of beautiful women, but the hottest don't do that. They don't need to.
Credit goes to man of wood for the above. Don't know if can use real I'd or not.
Hot girls don't have to sell pussy to us. Especial city ones.
So what we are left with are guys touting thick legged ones and anorexic ones. LOL.What you say rings very true. BKK has amazingly hot women. They are not in the P4P industry. You are correct, they don't need to be now. 13 years ago when the country was reeling from the crash it was a different story. Now, Thais are doing quite well. Less that 1% unemployment, salaries way up, etc. If you are a gal good looking you can find a Thai dude who has a bit of money to spend, or you can find a co-worker and the two of you can make a fairly nice go of it, car and starter condo that is.
Mongers? Well, we are left with the not so good looking, the not so smart, the lazy, or the nutty. But there are some nice scraps out there every once in awhile.
To all who participate on this site, thanks for the intell. I am really looking forward to my upcoming virgin trip of 14 days this Fall. In your opinion, would it benefit me to bring sex toys for my escapades with the ladies?Not necessary, but no harm.
Is it cheaper and better to purchase them in Bangkok?Cheaper but really poor quality, so not better.
Would I get extra effort, time and pops from the ladies if I put extra effort into their pleasure?The lady might have more pops. Doesn't mean you will get better service.
It has worked for me in the US, just wondering if anybody has experienced this or has an opinion.One girl Cat, was so tired after using the Jack Rabbit I bought for her (on her request) , she became rather useless for me (totally spent). So only allow girls to use in small doses.
The big problem with good Vibes is that it helps girls get to orgasm very quickly, and pop multiple times in a few minutes. They can have had enough after only 20 minutes, where I was planning on a session of over 60 mins. 20 mins is no good to me.
And in a country rightly known for so many beautiful women, why is it that many working girls are so unattractive, and so unrepresentative of the average woman?
Thailand is truly a land of beautiful women, but the hottest don't do that. They don't need to.
Hot girls don't have to sell pussy to us. Especial city ones.For once I agree. Many of the girls in bars have to support a child or parents or sister's schooling, etc. Typically have no husband or BF except the ones with no money or leaching off them. Some girls have mentioned having to support mother's gambling habit, etc. At the local sports complex where monthly membership is quite expensive, I am seeing many very pretty Thai girls from wealthy families. Big contrast to the looks in the poorer neighbourhoods. Not too sure why this is. Reasonably well off mothers of the children at the local school (middle class - not rich and not poor) don't seem to be particularly great looking. I guess its the pretty girls hook the rich husbands syndrome to some extent.
It any girl was amazing enough, a guy will take her out of the business. Many girls come into the business and disappear again quickly. Even the less than amazing girls are getting taken away. Still a percentage of the working bar girls are still well above average looks, even if not stunners. If they were totally plain, who wants to spend money to fuck them? Sympathy fucks perhaps? I can get freebies from certain ordinary girls, but don't want them. I have GF already so its better to just pay to play up.
Beauty is not about white skin too. Take a look at this model. This is really absolutely my desired spec in both face and body. Far too stunning to find anything like this in a bar or MP. Her skin is not white. Who cares? Exotically gorgeous.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2012-07/04/c_131691446_9.htm
When I go to a Thai Soapy, I am looking for girls as close to this as possible, skin can be light or dark, doesn't matter.
My GF has some similarities to the face and body shape, but no where near as pretty or hot and much shorter. However I can see what attracted me to her. GF is still a big turn on for me.
I have looked through pics of many of the top Chinese Movie Stars and hardly like any of them except for Shu Qi, who is definite stunner for me. White skin is just not enough to make them beautiful. Chinese face shape is largely not for me. Thai men love these Chinese or Korean movie star looks. Not for me. I would take a Jessica Alba or Halle Berry look any day.
P.S. I don't think Baccara bar has many girls that even slightly look like this, and there are a lot of fake looks going on there. Some girls style the hair so that not much of the face is visible (because they are plain). Then I find the girls bored and lifeless. Its too packed out. To noisy. Not enough fun. So Baccara is not a bar that keeps me coming back. R4 has a few better lookers last time I looked, but not many girls are giving me the right vibe. Its probably worth spending a lot more time at R4 to sus out the really good girls though, from the ones who just want a quickie. Unfortunately very limited time is my problem.
What you say rings very true. BKK has amazingly hot women. They are not in the P4P industry. You are correct, they don't need to be now. 13 years ago when the country was reeling from the crash it was a different story. Now, Thais are doing quite well. Less that 1% unemployment, salaries way up, etc. If you are a gal good looking you can find a Thai dude who has a bit of money to spend, or you can find a co-worker and the two of you can make a fairly nice go of it, car and starter condo that is.
Mongers? Well, we are left with the not so good looking, the not so smart, the lazy, or the nutty. But there are some nice scraps out there every once in awhile.Your analysis is spot on! Thai prosperity has drastically changed the marketplace. There are certainly some scraps out there, but it takes effort and time.
Asian Rain
08-12-13, 07:57
Beauty is not about white skin too. Take a look at this model. This is really absolutely my desired spec in both face and body. Far too stunning to find anything like this in a bar or MP. Her skin is not white. Who cares? Exotically gorgeous.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2012-07/04/c_131691446_9.htmAgree, her PICS are gorgeous. That's kinda stating the obvious. Consider this: If you took pics of any high quality Thai MP girls and applied as much photoshopping (skin completely blurred) as applied to your SI beach model, dressed them up in a sexy bikini, applied a $200 hairstyling and put them on an exotic beach, they would look much tastier. On the other hand, if you take any SI model and put her onto a ratty go go stage / fishbowl lineup without the benefit of heavy styling and photoshop, you might have a different opinion. For me, I can't remember the last time I got a product that matched its magazine photo. Just a view. AR
This is part 2 of the 2 part description of Sunday night. Part 1 ended with nothing much: I left Bluey and Bacarra, made my way back to the hotel, got further delayed and frustrated. Here now is a report on how later that night, I uncovered an exotic gem in none other than the Nana Hotel parking lot. It was a very surprising event, which in many ways was far too idealistic for me to believe. But this is how it occurred. I need tp preface this report by stipulating that the details of this report are 100% true, I. E, the fee she requested, the location of te pickup, and the details of her background. This is because they go against the general tenor of reports lately out of BKK regarding SWs, and indeed against my own recent experience. The point is that gems are still to be had, albeit in rare frequency.
After my work was done in the hotel room, I had to find me some luvin'. I wasn't about to go back to NEP, and was a little concerned about going to Climax, so I decided to walk the streets in search of a SW, and if that failed, then I would go to Climax as a backup. So I walked down towards NEP, and on the way I did not see anything I liked. As I approached the soi 4 intersection, however, I saw a girl getting ready to cross the street going towards NEP, and sped up to get a better look. She was slim, tall, with long wavy black hair. She was wearing a two piece skirt and blouse, blue, with the skirt being one of those bell-shaped skirts (kind of conservative). But her legs were shapely, and as anyone who has read any of my reports knows, that's all that matters. Her face was quite pretty, and she looked to be in her late twenties. She got to the other side and I was looking for a way to get her attention. She ended up walking all the way past NEP, crossed the street, and then stopped near that 7-11 to make a call. So I lingered nearby, conspicuously watching her every move.
During her call she noticed me, then looked away and completed her call. When she was done, she looked again, and inched closer to me to see if I was interested. I said hello, she said hello, I said where you going, she said I go 7-11, but you follow me, what you want? I said I like how you walk, can you come with me to talk a little? She said only talk? I smiled and said maybe more. She asked, you want ST or LT, and I said how much ST? She paused, looked me over, and said 3000b. I said that was high, why so high? She said that's a good price, and she will take good care of me. I said I can do 2000b, but no more. She walked away. Wow, she was not even slightly interested. She did not ask where I was from, or my name, or where my hotel was: I think she took a look at me, did not like what I look like, and decided to high ball me just to get rid of me. Ok, I can deal with that.
I turned back around and walked through to the Nana Hotel parking lot to see what was on display, and there were perhaps a dozen non-LB options there. Very quickly I zeroed in on one girl wearing a short yellow dress. The dress was not over-the-top sexy, but short and revealing. Her legs were a little more crooked than I like (I. E, too many juts and bumps around the knee area) , but certainly something able to proffer pleasure. I could not discern her backside or breasts, and her face was not classic beauty, but cute and attractive. She had her hair tied back, tight, in a little bun, with bangs hanging down to just above her eyes. This gave her a simple, attractive, young look. She must have been in her early-mid twenties, with skin the color of hot chocolate, so a definite Isaan girl, or so I thought. She had rather odd facial features though. Her cheek bones were prominent, but not in the sideways manner that you see with the so-called 'flat faced Thais'. Her nose, too, was sharp, and most non-Thai in appearance. Implant? No, it was not bulky enough. The closest I can think of to describe it is it looked like an Ethiopian or Somali nose, if you're familiar with that shape. Very unusual for a Thai WG, in my experience.
I walked right past her at first, checking her out, ever so slowly, to gauge her reaction. She looked at me sideways, but she looked, and did not reach out to say 'where you goooo? ' Ok, a luke warm reception it was. So I carried on checking out the rest of the talent (the word 'dregs' kept coming to mind) , and then circled back in for the pick of the litter. As I approached, some fat Italian dude had appeared and was propositioning her. He had wispy brown hair, was unshaven, around my height, but perhaps 100 pounds heavier. He was wearing a loud yellow t-shirt, with green cut-off capri pants, with large Berkenstock-type shoes. He looked like a less than hygienic specimen. I, on the other hand, offered ambiguous ethnic sourcing, but was clean, well shaven and well dressed. She was aware of my interests, and I was banking on her rejecting the guy in favor of me. So I laid back and watched from a distance.
The Italian was, true to stereotype, full of gesticulatory exuberance. They seemed to be discussing the politics of a center-left government more than the negotiation for access to her sweet bits for financial renumeration. And I was getting uneasy. This was not going well: this dude was going to sneak away with my pretty little thing, and I was not terribly happy about that. So I decided to try to make things a little clearer in the girl's mind. She probably did not know whether I would be returning or not, so I stepped closer to them, and into her line of sight, and made purposeful eye contact. This was hard to do because the damned LBs were everywhere and they were nipping at my elbows with their high-pitched, creaky 'helloooooo sssssir's. I had to focus, ignore these pests, and obtain the prize that is rightly mine. Finally, she saw me and our eyes locked for a moment. She then looked back at the Italian guy and you could see the cogs turning.
A few moments later, the Italian trudges off still gesticulating to himself, but seemingly perfectly happy. She looks over my way as if to say 'your move now, sailor. ' So I moved in. I said hello, she said hello, and she asked where I am from, and I said America, and she nodded approvingly. She asked where I am going, I said for a drink, you want to come? She said sure, after drink what we do? I said we go to my hotel and you take care me. She says ok, you want short time or long time? I say how much? She pauses, probably calculating the opportunity cost, the pain in the ankles of another hour in that spot, and the likelihood of getting someone substantially better (cleaner / more generous) than me.
She looks at me, and quietly says 1000b ST. Before I had time to even think it through, I agreed, nodding her in the direction of Suk. That's a good price, for more goods than I thought I would get tonight, so fuck yeah, let's go baby. She asks where I stay, and I told her the Aloft Hotel, and she pulls out her phone (an old clunker, by the way, not an iPhone) and calls someone. I asked who she called, and she said she has a taxi friend who was set to drive her and her customer to the hotel, and then he would wait for her until we are done. Maybe a pimp, or a boyfriend, or just a good business relationship, I don't know. But she said she canceled it with him since she does not need it: soi 11 is very close. That kind of made me feel better, actually.
A couple of notes, one about you, the readers, and the second about this taxi thing. First, I think we need to address the 1000b fee. This is, on my reading of this forum, a very low price, even for a SW. I think there are numerous reasons for why I got quoted this price, but suffice it to say that this is very much a YMMV issue. Just like #81 in R3 who couldn't give fuck-all about me and would probably quote 5000b for ST with me, and the girl I just got bounced by who would not budge from her initial 3000b quote, this girl was willing to go with me for this low price. All are cases of YMMV, but on opposite ends of the spectrum. I had a very similar experience with a Bacarra gogo girl a few nights later, and in that report I make a bigger point of this, so stay tuned. Second, the taxi thing, I believe, was not actually a regular deal that she had. I think the taxi guy was waiting for her on this occasion and this occasion only. Read below to see why.
So we walk up soi 11, which is a bit of a slog, but as we walked we talked. She was remarkably eloquent and articulate in English. She had an accent which I could detect but not place, so I asked her where she was from, and she said the northwest. I said where, and she said something, not sure what, but she then explained that she is from one of the hill tribes. Huh. That explains her exotic features. I couldn't understand which hill tribe, or which region in particular, nor the reasons for her being a WG, so that's all I have on that front. But that was a clue that this was no ordinary, ho-hum SW I had encountered tonight.
We get to the hotel (notice, we never went for a drink) , and again, we walk through the lobby unnoticed whatsoever. In the room, I offer her a drink, which she accepts (water, a good sign). We sit and talk for a few minutes while she sips her water and judges Kumbu. I am somewhat non-threatening: 5'10", brownish skin, might be confused for some variant of Thai, and so some girls feel comfortable with me. Others hate that appearance because they have sworn off Thai men forever, so it is a double-edged sword. But this girl definitely chilled with me, and we started talking about her village, her friends, her years as a bus station attendant, etc.
Finally we got to a silence in the conversation, and the time was something like 2am. Shit, I had to be up at 6am the next day for the longest work day of my 8 days here, what am I doing to myself? But she looks down at her feet and murmurs something softly. I leaned in and asked what. She said it again, but I still could not make it out, and then after another pregnant pause, she says it louder and more softly. She says 'I never be with customer before. You first time. '
Shit on my father's balls.
I did not need this at this point. Hell, I turned down the barely-pubescent girl at R1 earlier tonight precisely because I did not want to be the initiator for a newbie. But for once, I put myself aside for a moment and looked at her. She was fucking trembling. Her fingers were wringing themselves into spaghetti, and she was chewing her lower lip rawer than a freshly slaughtered goat. I looked at her, a lump arose in my throat, and I felt hollowness within me for some reason. On the one hand, this girl has chosen to get into the business, and so needs to deal with all the brutes that are out there. In the grand scheme of things, I am not the most brutish individual she will encounter, so that's (I suppose) the good news. But on the other hand, I imagined the next time she is with someone who wants something unusual (because we all do). Something that she might find distasteful, or even painful, and I looked at her trembling fingers and the gooseskin on her upper arms, and I just knew this girl was not made out for this line of work. She did not have it in her. It was like watching the gazelle run from the lion, dart this way and that, working at maximum capacity to try to save its own life. But as you watch the slow motion movements on the screen, you see the inevitability of that carotid artery eventually being met by fangs. And there's nothing anyone can do about it, this is just the way the world works.
All this happened in a span of 3 seconds, as we sat quietly on the couch in my room. She then jumped up and said 'shower! ' and walked off to take a shower. I sat there, on the verge of tears myself, wondering what kind of fucking crackpot I am. But as I regained some composure, I realized two important things. First, the heightened emotions and hyper-sensitivity I was feeling was very, very likely a result of my extreme fatigue. I mean, damn, it has been so long since I have had a good night's sleep, and the exertions I have put myself through are not even funny. So I guess it is normal to begin breaking down after a while. And second, I figured that this girl was in it for the money, and if money is what she needs, dammit, money I shall provide. What else could I do at this point? I couldn't turn her out, because she would eventually repeat with some other customer, be brutalized, and end her P4P career in tears. All that would be missing is Kumbu playing a positive part on her experience. So I decided to stick with it. And oh yeah, I WAS pretty horny.
She came out smelling all clean, and I ran in to take my shower. When I came out she was under the sheets watching tv. I got in next to her and we cuddled for a while. After a few minutes, she just suddenly turns over onto me and starts kissing my neck. It didn't feel right, it was forced. But I did not dissuade her. She kissed my neck, my shoulders, my chest, down to my belly, and was making for little Kumbu, and I then remembered Leggy from the night before, and I was not particularly in the mood for another savaging. So I pulled her up and over and I got on top of her. I reciprocated with the soft neck and shoulder kissing and for the first time I noticed her breasts. Goddam, they were ball-bustingly good. I mean, they were largish, perhaps a small C cup, but they were firm as hell, and shaped like breasts from heaven. Later, when she was sitting atop me, I would notice that they were a perfect bell shape, and fell in all the right directions in the right ways. But lying on her back, they fell off to the side, leaving me to cup them and lift them. And I just can't describe the phenomenal feeling they had in my hands. Firm, soft, hefty, and totally, totally real. Her nipples were a very light creme color, and they were tiny as hell. So I looked down at this bounty, shocked and surprised, and decided I needed to treat these jewels with the respect they deserve.
So I didn't kiss them. Yeah, that's right, I avoided them entirely. After my initial unrequited groping, I left them aside and kissed all around them, but not directly on them. I did not rub the nipples, or anything like that. The strategy was two-fold. First, with breasts like that, I am sure ever guy just digs in, and so that is likley what she expects of me. If I don't do that, however, it will increase her anticipation, and when I finally do stick my face and hands into those beauties, it will have a greater impact on her. That was my theory at least. And second, avoiding the breasts at first increased my own anticipation, and so when I finally dive in, it will be even better for me.
I kissed her around the breasts, then down to her belly, which was a little skinful, but firm enough, and then down to her hips. I kissed the hip bone on the left, then across the top of her pubic region to the right pubic bone, and when I made my gentle meandering way south, she tensed up. She put her hand on my chin and guided me away from her pussy. Too soon? I get that, and truth be told, I was not thrilled about doing DATY on a SW. So I kissed away from her pussy and down to her thighs, which were well textured and firm. I went down to her knees, which recall were a little jutty and bumpy (you know, the inside of the knee juts inside too much). I kissed that little jut on each knee, and then down to her calves, and I flipped her over to kiss her legs back up the other side. As I did so, she started getting nervous as I approached her ass. When I got to the base of her ass, she squirmed and tried turning over. I gently reassured her, but to no avail, and she turned over. So no Mission Accomplished for me tonight, sadly.
This was her first time, and I'm sure she was feeling very vulnerable, which I understood. But here's the problem. My Trojans are non-lubricated. If she does not allow me to get her wet, this ain't going to work. She was now on her back, so I worked my way up her belly to those monumental breasts, and again purposefully avoided all contact with them. I kissed right down the middle channel between her breasts, my ears grazing the soft, firm flesh, and up to her neck, where I began to explore the sensitivity of various regions. I discovered that she liked having air gently blown at the regions just beneath her ears. So I kissed from her ear lobe down the side of the neck, and then blew air gently at those same semi-moist spots all the way back. I did this a couple of times, and then repeated on the other side, and she was appreciating this. It was gentle, it was sensual, and it was warming her up.
I then went straight to her ear lobes, which just ignited her. She started groping my shoulders and moaning, and at first I was not sure if she liked it or if it was too intimate for her. But after a while, it was clear that this was doing the trick. Long story short: nuzzle, lick, blow, kiss, and eventually the men from Troy were ready to do battle.
I pull a Trojan out, rip it on, and I tried to insert little Kumbu, but couldn't. She tried to help, but together we could not figure this puzzle out. We tried for a full 60 seconds before we switched positions. She lay on her side, opened her legs and I could now see her pussy well. So I aim for the two lips, and penetrate ever so slightly, but then I hit a brick wall. I mean, I just could not get inside her. We tried again, but to no avail, and she giggled. I was not amused, so I asked her what was happening, and she said that I am too big. I seriously doubt that honey, unless you aperture is like f25, little Kumbu can squeeze into almost anything. Trust me, in my youth, I tried it all.
I tried to get her into doggie, but that wasn't going to work, so I flipped over and she straddled me and started fumbling with little Kumbu. He was a little dry still, meaning he had not picked up all of her moisture, and that was contributing to the difficulty, so I wriggled my hips a little to run him all over her pussy, getting the outside of the Trojan good and wet, and then we tried again. Once again, the head got in, but then I hit some kind of fleshy impediment. I've never experienced anything like this before, where I can get partially inside and then whammo, nothing. I was perhaps one inch into her, which was really not doing it because any back and forth and little Kumbu just popped right out.
Eventually little Kumbu managed to traverse the little barrier and I squeezed into her, somehow pointing slightly rightwards. It was almost as if her vagina was split into two, with a barrier in the middle (which is what I was bumping up against) , and when I got inside her, little Kumbu took the right path. And boy was it tight. I managed to get half way into her, and then she sat back down right on my balls so my dick was pointing downwards towards my feet while being inside her. She started to rock and it hurt. I mean, she was not trying to hurt me, but the pressure from her pubic bone right below the head, coupled with the friction from her pubic hair was kind of grating on little Kumbu, who for the second night in a row was taking a beating.
I opened my legs a little to reduce the pressure, and this helped a lot, and so now I could allow her to rock and sway as she pleased. She was leaning forward, and her breasts were swaying too and fro. They were gorgeous, gorgeous architectural wonders. I put my hands on her hips and slowly moved them up her side, inhaling all the way up, enjoying the supreme intoxication of the vision of her breasts and the softness of her skin on my fingers. I got to the bottom of her breasts and placed my hands beneath them, palms facing away from me, flat against her chest behind her breasts, and her breasts supported by the crook between my thumb and index finger.
I slowly lifted the breasts like this, and they were downright heavy. They had these little speckles on them, like chicken skin, but very mild, and it was driving me nuts! That was the most beautiful thing ever, and I wanted it in my mouth. But no, not yet, hold your horses Kumbu (and little Kumbu too). So I played with them indirectly this way for a while. I lifted them, let them fall, swayed them this way and that way, watched them jiggle, watched them bounce, and I could feel little Kumbu getting ready for his swan song.
So I pulled out. Little Kumbu popped up onto my belly, and she sat flush againt his underside. Oh my, that felt good. She then started gyrating, squashing little Kumbu between her pussy and my belly, and it was wonderful. At this point I lost my control and started to grope her breasts madly. I just went wild: I squashed them, poked them, pinched them, rubbed the nipples, squeezed them together, let them fall, lifted one, then the other, then the one again, etc. And finally, I lifted them together, squashed them together with the nipples within an inch of each other, and greedily stuck both nipples into my mouth at the same time (yes, her breasts allowed that). She let out a little cry, and I sucked heartily, my own spittle dripping everywhere in a mad frenzy of breast engorgement. I swished my tongue all around the double nipple sandwich I had prepared for myself, and squeezed with my hands in the meantime. It was breast indulgence the likes of which I have not had in years. This was a thousand times better than the fake boobies of Leggy from last night. These were real, these were large, and these were SPEC-tacular.
The fatigue must have been massive, because as the frenzy continued, I heard music in the background, obviously in my mind alone. It was a guitar song with a beat, with lyrics that stuck and a deep rough voice like no other. It was familiar, but I could not quite place it, but I knew it was a song from my past, and it would eventually surface.
A few moments later, I exploded and I grabbed her back and pushed my face between her breasts as I climaxed. She used her hands to push the breasts tight against my face, giving me a breast hug, if you will, and I spent myself in pleasure and energy, gasping for air in that tight breast embrace. I held that position for a good 2 minutes afterwards, breathing heavily, and gently kissing the side of her breast where my face was scrunched. As I sat there, breathing heavily, breasts all around my face, the delirium of fatigue and breast-overload overcoming me, I turned my face upwards slightly and I don't know why, but I whispered:
Girl you look so pretty to me,
Like it always did.
Like the Spanish city to me.
When we were kids.
She did not understand, but she smiled and held me tight and gently rocked me as I whispered the lyrics again. Relaxation washed across me as the sultry licks of Knopfler engulfed my semi-conscious mind, and the smell of semen from beneath and spittle from all around created a humid, protective womb for the slowly regressing Kumbu. This lasted several minutes before she eventually released me, showered, and dressed. I went to the hotel safe and pulled out 2000b and slipped it into her purse. I kissed her on the forehead and told her to be safe, and she left. I slept that night without showering, a strict no-no in Kumbu's book of hygienic etiquette, but I slept soundly for a full 3 hours, before I awoke for a long day at work.
NeverJerkOff
08-12-13, 10:28
I went to the hotel safe and pulled out 2000b and slipped it into her purse. I kissed her on the forehead and told her to be safe, and she left. I slept that night without showering, a strict no-no in Kumbu's book of hygienic etiquette, but I slept soundly for a full 3 hours, before I awoke for a long day at work.If you paid a Nana streetwalker 2000 short time you overpaid by at least 100 percent.
She was remarkably eloquent and articulate in English.It's nice to come across well spoken English speakers but I wouldn't necessarily be so impressed with that. That just means they've taken over 100 Caucasian loads to the face then your average Thai pro.
Pointy Stick
08-12-13, 11:23
Wow. And people think I'm paranoid. LOL.
So your reason for not carrying a passport is there are no honest Buddha fearing cops in Thailand who would take you to the station for not having your passport? And there are no cops in Siam who would detain you for not having your passport if you were rude to them or ticked them off when they were having a bad hair day, or they felt like teaching this farang a lesson?
Dream on.No, just spent too long in Asia to think that I'm in control and that some document will protect me. Buddhism doesn't mean shit, its simply another way to exert social control. Baht will always do the trick, its the price you have to agree on.
Streetwalker7
08-12-13, 12:07
A topic that needs revisiting.
Thai man bad sex tourist good. LOL.
Girls who say Thai man is bad are prolly bad girls. LOL. I go to shopping centers all I see is Thai couples. Exceptions duly noted-we all know many hot young Thai girls find pensioners, no hair, fat, smelly, very attractive. LOL.
Beauty is not about white skin too. Take a look at this model. This is really absolutely my desired spec in both face and body. Far too stunning to find anything like this in a bar or MP. Her skin is not white. Who cares? Exotically gorgeous.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2012-07/04/c_131691446_9.htmIt's so, so easy to find better looking girls than that in Bangkok. And I mean P4P in the NEP area only.
This is part 2 of the 2 part description of Sunday night.Wow!
Giotto
Agree, her PICS are gorgeous. That's kinda stating the obvious. Consider this: If you took pics of any high quality Thai MP girls and applied as much photoshopping (skin completely blurred) as applied to your SI beach model, dressed them up in a sexy bikini, applied a $200 hairstyling and put them on an exotic beach, they would look much tastier. On the other hand, if you take any SI model and put her onto a ratty go go stage / fishbowl lineup without the benefit of heavy styling and photoshop, you might have a different opinion. For me, I can't remember the last time I got a product that matched its magazine photo. Just a view. ARSure the models are "improved" a bit. Her hair could be a mess and no makeup and she would still look good. The main point was that the skin is not white (Beauty does not equal white) and secondly that you don't find this good when mongering, despite what you say. This girl can make big money without fucking for it. She can afford to fuck for fun instead. A girl this good would last less than 1 week in the mongering business before getting too good an offer to stay, I reckon.
Even a wayward sex bomb called "Ma" at Suzie Wong, with child and saggy tits, who was only moderately good looking didn't last more than a few months, before someone did not want to share any more. I was disappointed to see her go. A jolly good lay. LOL. The very pretty Noo Dee will be gone very soon even though only a very average performer.
Was this 'Crazy House' on the left side of Soi 23 a few yards from Soi Cowboy? I was in there that night but upstairs playing with the girls dancing on the see through floor with a few sailors from that Colombian Tall Masted Ship in port. Someone mentioned a minor commotion down below though I could see anything nor did I really care with Lek in my hands. It was her first night working (from Nongkai).
SNIPPED. We round the corner to soi 23, and he stops in front of a gogo bar on that soi, around 20 yards down from soi Cowboy itself, and he says to go inside this joint. I asked him how much for the taxi fare, and he said to just go into the bar. So I figured he had a deal with the bar where if he drops off customers who go into the bar, he gets his fare paid by the bar. I've seen this at the nightclubs like Spicey and Bossy, but never with a gogo bar. But hey, no fare for me, that's cool.
So Bluey and I go in, and the pickings are pretty meager. We both order water and as we wait, the tout comes and says the taxi driver wants to get paid. Bluey and I figure that if we have to pay a taxi fare, then fuck this sorry-ass gogo bar, so we trot outside and there's the guy with his hand out. He says '100 baht', and I balked, countering 40 baht, and he balked. I know better than to cross a taxi driver, even one that is clearly hustling me, so I pulled out three 20s, and he takes them and splits. He clearly got the better of this deal, but the difference between me paying the expected 45b fare, or 60b, or 300b for two waters in the gogo bar, I think 60b ain't too bad.
We start walking away, and then there's the little matter of the gogo bar, where we had a drink order in and we bailed before receiving or paying for the drinks. The mama san shouts out to the tout to go get us, and he calls us back. Uh-oh. This was a little delicate. But I just told the guy what had happened: 'taxi man say if we go inside gogo bar, we no pay taxi. But then he want money, so we no go into gogo. Sorry, ok? ' and the guy understood, and gave us a little waive. The mama san was none too happy, but before anything else could happen, Bluey and I had turned the corner into soi Cowboy. SNIPPED.
Was this 'Crazy House' on the left side of Soi 23 a few yards from Soi Cowboy? I was in there that nightSounds like the joint, although I never saw the name of the place (too much other stuff happening, like trying to avoid getting the sword from a taxi guy or a gogo tout, as described in my original post)
If you paid a Nana streetwalker 2000 short time you overpaid by at least 100 percent.
It's nice to come across well spoken English speakers but I wouldn't necessarily be so impressed with that. That just means they've taken over 100 Caucasian loads to the face then your average Thai pro.A cynical and ridiculous pst from someone who knows nothing about the scene in Bangkok.
There is no such thing as over-paying a WG. What you pay is purely a personal decision. She asked for Baht 1, 000, a very reasonable figure and he chose to tip her. What you magisterially and pompously claim is over-paying is rubbish.
You have an equally ridiculous view of the reason she had a reasonable knowledge of English. Not all WGs are rice planters from Issan with little English; I have met many Thais who have made an effort to learn English and speak it well. Without as you crudely put it 'having taken loads in the face."
We could well do without your opinions based on ignorance.
Once again, the head got in, but then I hit some kind of fleshy impediment. I've never experienced anything like this before, where I can get partially inside and then whammo, nothing. I was perhaps one inch into her, which was really not doing it because any back and forth and little Kumbu just popped right out.So was she a virgin or not? Its like you are describing all aspects of breaking her but don't want to admit it? Otherwise a sponge shoved up there is a problem I sometimes encounter, and finally there are girls that are just excessively tight and have crooked vaginas making it more difficult for a dick that doesn't bend in the same direction.
O.K. maybe was a dumb question I never actually met any Thai girl over 16 that was a virgin. LOL Perhaps lack of broad experience.
I did take a drink waitress who was "supposedly" first time with a customer, but can't be too sure. Perhaps she secretly met up with customer already.
You want to consider having lube just in case. I always have it.
NeverJerkOff
08-12-13, 17:47
a cynical and ridiculous pst from someone who knows nothing about the scene in bangkok.
there is no such thing as over-paying a wg. what you pay is purely a personal decision. she asked for baht 1, 000, a very reasonable figure and he chose to tip her. what you magisterially and pompously claim is over-paying is rubbish.
you have an equally ridiculous view of the reason she had a reasonable knowledge of english. not all wgs are rice planters from issan with little english; i have met many thais who have made an effort to learn english and speak it well. without as you crudely put it 'having taken loads in the face."
we could well do without your opinions based on ignorance.looks like another goo-goo eyed over payer spotted.
sure everyone over pay, then you have one toothless crack head hooker left in the world and no isg forum. you will be doing the world a favor by leaving all of mankind with blue balls and major depression which will result in a worldwide [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and violence.
and a well spoken english street walker didn't learn it by reciting shakespeare. she picked it up from constantly being around white guys that wanted their dick in her mouth in which she obliged.
truth hurts.
If you paid a Nana streetwalker 2000 short time you overpaid by at least 100 percent.
It's nice to come across well spoken English speakers but I wouldn't necessarily be so impressed with that. That just means they've taken over 100 Caucasian loads to the face then your average Thai pro.It is a service not buying a satay from a street cart. If you want, he paid 1000 baht and a 1000 B tip for a great service. Mister know it all. (Sorry scorchin, I saw your reply after I posted this)
Was this 'Crazy House' on the left side of Soi 23 a few yards from Soi Cowboy? I was in there that night but upstairs playing with the girls dancing on the see through floor with a few sailors from that Colombian Tall Masted Ship in port. Someone mentioned a minor commotion down below though I could see anything nor did I really care with Lek in my hands. It was her first night working (from Nongkai).Crazy House is actually a fairly interesting gogo bar imo. It just opened a few weeks ago and I came thru an invite from a Mamasan at Pretty Lady in the Plaza who moved there and took a bunch of girls from the Plaza with her. You have two floors of gogo dancers, then a third floor with a restaurant and a 4th floor that becomes a late night disco. It is still undiscovered territory so not a lot of customers thus far. 50% of the girls are in bikinis and 50% are in nothing. There are not that many good looking girls but there are more than in most gogos in Nana Plaza these days (which has hit rock bottom due to the police raid, the slow season and God knows what else). If you go up to the 2nd floor it is very casual. Girls naked on poles right in front of you. It can get very touchy feely depending on the girl. You have to keep your eyes open but good looking girls are to be had. I went up to the restaurant and there were 2 sweeties up there chowing down. Definitely a place I want to revisit and I generally hate Soi Cowboy.
Streetwalker7
08-12-13, 18:39
Started at Rainbow 4. Guys keep showing up even if the girls don't. LOL. Like I said before.where else are we going to go?
Had a fleeting moment where I thought I might try out the number 1 agogo superstar in all of Thailand besides NooDee#37-but she disappeared into the night-probably another bf, I saw her coming back from one.
Went to Rainbow 2, it was as packed as I've ever seen the place. I inquired about barfining a girl actually asking price, she said 2,000 was ok but I just couldn't go with it, nice tits but deameanor was a bit sour. Then a girl I really wanted to try came back from a barfine, got a price of under 2,500, off we went.
The most easy girl to get along with in all my encounters. Very decent face and nice tits, a cupple of teeth pointing in opposite directions but that is par for the course with thai girls. LOL. No time pressure at all. She was willing to massage me like I massage my favorite Rainbow 4 girl. LOL. All in all well worth the $90 spent.
I'm pretty sure with my direction this girl could massage me the way I want it done. LOL. She was better than all of the VIP girls I've tried recently.
English speaking bargirls? It really is true girls who speak good English tend to have taken bucket loads of caucasian jism in all their various holes. LOL. This is one of those things guys who go for Farang style girls don't want to admit.
If your honey speaks decent English she is prolly dark skin farang style girl. Prolly a bit on the unattractive side to boot.
I asked my barfine if there were girls who just werent barfined. She said yes. LOL. Passes my eyeball test. Some girls are just unattractive as can be.
Streetwalker7
08-12-13, 18:43
Crazy House is actually a fairly interesting gogo bar imo. It just opened a few weeks ago and I came thru an invite from a Mamasan at Pretty Lady in the Plaza who moved there and took a bunch of girls from the Plaza with her. You have two floors of gogo dancers, then a third floor with a restaurant and a 4th floor that becomes a late night disco. It is still undiscovered territory so not a lot of customers thus far. 50% of the girls are in bikinis and 50% are in nothing. There are not that many good looking girls but there are more than in most gogos in Nana Plaza these days (which has hit rock bottom due to the police raid, the slow season and God knows what else). If you go up to the 2nd floor it is very casual. Girls naked on poles right in front of you. It can get very touchy feely depending on the girl. You have to keep your eyes open but good looking girls are to be had. I went up to the restaurant and there were 2 sweeties up there chowing down. Definitely a place I want to revisit and I generally hate Soi Cowboy.May have to try based on your recommendation. LOL.
Its the God knows what else is puzzling me. Just can't figure it out. A decent looking Asian style girl would be raking in the baht at Rainbow 4 right now. Very little competition.
So was she a virgin or not? Its like you are describing all aspects of breaking her but don't want to admit it?Did not mean to imply that she was a virgin. When she said 'never been with customer', I certainly did not take that to mean 'never been with any man'. Also, the impediment was not really like breaking a virgin. As I said in the post, it was as if there was some kind of barrier right in the middle of her vagina, not like a hymen. The hymen, as I am sure you all know, is a circular ring of flesh that the penis goes through, and the myth of 'breaking' a virgin is just that: a myth. The hymen rarely breaks, it more often tears due to inadequate lubrication or forceful entry, or the inability of the girl to relax her muscles.
So no, I don't believe she was a virgin. I did some googling, and I think it might have been something like a septate vagina (go ahead, google it). I am no doctor, so this is just ignorant internet guessing, but it was like she had two vaginas, divided longitudinally by a barrier of flesh. I've never experienced anything like it, and so I really can't describe it any better, sorry.
I couldn't read the entire post, just too much boring stuff for me. However, two things stuck out to me hard "perfect" breasts, and shallow vagina. This means ladyboy. I don't believe you were her first customer. She's too seasoned by having the driver on standby.
Also, a first timer is unlikely to do Nana parking lot (notorious for LBs) and would more likely go to a club or even just the internet.
looks like another goo-goo eyed over payer spotted.
sure everyone over pay, then you have one toothless crack head hooker left in the world and no isg forum. you will be doing the world a favor by leaving all of mankind with blue balls and major depression which will result in a worldwide [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and violence.
and a well spoken english street walker didn't learn it by reciting shakespeare. she picked it up from constantly being around white guys that wanted their dick in her mouth in which she obliged.
truth hurts.i am not certain who appointed you as arbiter of prices but you seem to lack any real experience of the thai market and the underlying economic forces which determine prices. there is a difference between the fee (in this case baht 1, 000 st which was totally consistent with sws) and any tip a monger may care to give.
as for your naive hypothesis. it's been done to death by those totally ignorant of reality.
i find it grossly insulting to thais to suggest that well spoken thai sws learn their english from punters. the thai educational system is good by related countries and english is regarded as a useful language to learn.
you won't make many friends there if you continue your derogatory attitude.
Member #4387
08-12-13, 23:46
I am not certain who appointed you as arbiter of prices but you seem to lack any real experience of the Thai market and the underlying economic forces which determine prices. There is a difference between the fee (in this case Baht 1, 000 ST which was totally consistent with SWs) and any tip a monger may care to give.
As for your naive hypothesis. It's been done to death by those totally ignorant of reality.
I find it grossly insulting to Thais to suggest that well spoken Thai SWs learn their English from punters. The Thai educational system is good by related countries and English is regarded as a useful language to learn.
You won't make many friends there if you continue your derogatory attitude.Are you native Thai by any chance as you get so insulted? No need to take it as a personal attack if you like many of the rest of us comes from abroad (and enjoy I might add what is on offer girlwice here) And no need to take it personaly if you are Thai either. The Jerkoff guy have some harsh statements but to some extent I will follow him without ofcourse talking down on anyone. This is by far no debate of the thai edu system but from my knowledge of thai sexworkers they are more likely to have been taken out of school at young age to help farming rather than learn english. There are ofcourse expectations in the more hi so sexenvironment as in delux escorts and prostututes. A sexworker placed in Nana P lot is quite low on the sexworker hiarkee but probably better off than the shadiest of streetwalker and even worse, ladies surrounding Lumpini park, but by far no top students are to be found nor here or there also when it comes to languageskills. So my guess without talking down on anyone would be that englishskills are picked up through involvement with westerners rather than high degree of english edu (then you would not find this chick in Nana P-lot).
I indulge myself into rather high educated thaigirls at times and they have a high degrees and speak english rather well (some even can say the famous R correctly and not make it sound like L). These girls you will not find even close to a p4p area (ofcourse a hiclass shoppingmall in the area will make exceptions at times). If we go into yhe "famous" freelanceclubs as Climax, Levels, BASH, Insanity, Thermae, Spasso, CM2, Q-Bar etc you can run into some well educated ones on rare occations needing some extra cashflow. But mostly freelancers frequent places mentioned have their basic englishskills from elsewhere than from edu according to themself(have not spoken to all of them ofcourse but i have spoken to many enough so i can get a feel of their edu level in general)NB! Here you can also run into none p4p's some places more likely than others. But I feel we have to agree that regarding sexworkers their level of english mostly comes from dealing with western punters wanting to besex them(have never seen they watch english movies but rather thaisoaps, korean soaps etc so they have in general not picked up english through TV). I am ofcourse aware of there may be exceptions in rare cases but not in general. That is my bold statement. I don't go to Thailand to make a hostile environment but I don't go to make a lot of friends either. My goal is to deal with fabelous thai pussy as much as I can and be a nice chap.
I couldn't read the entire post, just too much boring stuff for me. However, two things stuck out to me hard "perfect" breasts, and shallow vagina. This means ladyboy. I don't believe you were her first customer. She's too seasoned by having the driver on standby.
Also, a first timer is unlikely to do Nana parking lot (notorious for LBs) and would more likely go to a club or even just the internet.RBDave, surprised to see you trolling here, given your previous post history. But I will indulge you.
Definitely not LB. Her breasts were not hard, they were firm, and her vagina was not shallow, it was divided (both points actually mentioned in the report). Also, I think the taxi guy was on standby BECAUSE it was her first time: she was nervous. I know, I know, the post was TL, so DR, but perhaps DC if you DR.
But I don't feel particularly strong about any of this. I'm not into LBs: they neither attract me nor frighten me. If she was a LB and I never knew it, then she wasn't a LB to me. Also, it is entirely possible that she lied to me about being her first customer. I have no doubt that people lie. I don't believe that was the case, but I have been plenty wrong in the past.
I am not certain who appointed you as arbiter of pricesScorchin, not sure you want to get into a shit-flinging contest with people who post such comments. They tend to have a lot of shit nearby to fling.
If we go into yhe "famous" freelanceclubs as Climax, Levels, BASH, Insanity, Thermae, Spasso, CM2, Q-Bar etc you can run into some well educated ones on rare occations needing some extra cashflow.A few years ago I picked up a girl from Climax who was there just for fun. Her parents were rich, her English was exquisite, and she was there because she enjoyed the sex from farangs. I reported on this lass for each of the times I went with her (her name was the ubiquitous Lek, and she was indeed very lek, around 4'11") , so you can go back and check. My point: if such things are possible, albeit rare, in Climax, then surely they are possible elsewhere too. I don't actually know how well educated this current girl was, but it was not bar girl speak that she had mastered. She spoke good English, and that's not the kind of thing you just pick up being around foreigners. But it's a pointless discussion, in my opinion: what difference does it make how she learned her English?
My goal is to deal with fabelous thai pussy as much as I can and be a nice chap.And by my estimation, you succeed on both accounts.
I have to catch an early flight home on Friday, any suggestions on a 3 am visit from some service? Not expensive escort but mp visit?
Member #4387
08-13-13, 01:22
I have to catch an early flight home on Friday, any suggestions on a 3 am visit from some service? Not expensive escort but mp visit?Why not just take a stroll through the p4p areas of BKK and hook up with someone on a ST kind of deal. You can regulate exact timing yourself and maby even involve reception so you get your wake up all. Everything, and I mean everything, is possible in Bangkok and this small matter is easy solved. The last release / ejac is allways a nice one before heading home / away from BKK. From some reason unknown to man I like my last drops to be shared on a girl through a CIF before leaving.
Tony Hoeprano
08-13-13, 02:49
I indulge myself into rather high educated thaigirls at times and they have a high degrees and speak english rather well (some even can say the famous R correctly and not make it sound like L). These girls you will not find even close to a p4p area (ofcourse a hiclass shoppingmall in the area will make exceptions at times). If we go into yhe "famous" freelanceclubs as Climax, Levels, BASH, Insanity, Thermae, Spasso, CM2, Q-Bar etc you can run into some well educated ones on rare occations needing some extra cashflow. But mostly freelancers frequent places mentioned have their basic englishskills from elsewhere than from edu according to themself(have not spoken to all of them ofcourse but i have spoken to many enough so i can get a feel of their edu level in general)NB! Here you can also run into none p4p's some places more likely than others. But I feel we have to agree that regarding sexworkers their level of english mostly comes from dealing with western punters wanting to besex them(have never seen they watch english movies but rather thaisoaps, korean soaps etc so they have in general not picked up english through TV). I am ofcourse aware of there may be exceptions in rare cases but not in general. That is my bold statement. I don't go to Thailand to make a hostile environment but I don't go to make a lot of friends either. My goal is to deal with fabelous thai pussy as much as I can and be a nice chap.Where do you meet these high falutin' educated girls, at Pizza Hut? Plenty of well educated Thai girls ordering overpriced shit pizza there
Highly educated Thai girl, an oxymoron, if you ask me, if they've only been schooled within the borders of Thailand. My hiso educated GF with a degree in marketing is an idiot when it comes to math. I asked her what 7x9 is and she had to hem and haw before she could answer, almost broke out the calculator to solve this puzzle. Ask them where Mexico is and they'll point to Canada. Ask them who Julius Caesar is and they'll respond with does he play for Manchester U?
However, I did meet two educated girls from online dating site, one studied in the US, but her attitude was shitty and the slightest thing annoyed her. In addition, she was a bit pumpui and pigged faced. Met another one with a quality job, her tits and body were incredible, but sadly her face was quite ugly but the tits and body alone made it worth the while (natural ones I might add) to exchange bodily fluids with.
Member #4387
08-13-13, 04:28
Where do you meet these high falutin' educated girls, at Pizza Hut? Plenty of well educated Thai girls ordering overpriced shit pizza thereHm maby not at Pizza Hut but I know they do like pizza sometimes. I meet them through various sources and through friends. One even met in Norway when she was in a exchange program from her Thammasat uni). Requires high maintainance (as wine, dine and clubbingprogram mostly are on me the old fashion way. Sometimes they do chip in thanks God as a Lebua dinner at the Dome, NOT Scirocco, easily can hit 25k numbers).
But I will for sure ask if they do eat at Pizza Hut as well.
My GF teaches MBA in a prominent university in BKK. Her English level was zero when we met (Now these days it has been improved). I met with her friends and students in many occasion. In terms of talking with them they giggles or laughs. Communicating in English, just a joke.
What about in a touristic zone? Even a girl comes from a rural part of Thailand and works in beach road in pattya, serves nice with her quickly learned English.
Paul Kausch
08-13-13, 06:50
Where do you meet these high falutin' educated girls, at Pizza Hut? Plenty of well educated Thai girls ordering overpriced shit pizza there.
Highly educated Thai girl, an oxymoronWhat about:
Dr Sansanee Noisakran, National Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology.
Dr Punnama Siriphanon, Department of Chemistry, Faculty of Science at King's Mongkut's Institute of Technology.
Dr Atitaya Siripinyanond, Department of Chemistry, Faculty of Science, Mahidol University
I indulge myself into rather high educated thaigirls at times and they have a high degrees and speak english rather well (some even can say the famous R correctly and not make it sound like L). These girls you will not find even close to a p4p area (ofcourse a hiclass shoppingmall in the area will make exceptions at times). If we go into yhe "famous" freelanceclubs as Climax, Levels, BASH, Insanity, Thermae, Spasso, CM2, Q-Bar etc you can run into some well educated ones on rare occations needing some extra cashflow.About 2 years ago on several occasions I saw a Nana Parking Lot girl who said she was a travel agent & spoke perfect English. She was extremely pretty, looked to be about 25, no more than 5 feet tall, with a perfect spinner body.
But mostly freelancers frequent places mentioned have their basic englishskills from elsewhere than from edu according to themself(have not spoken to all of them ofcourse but i have spoken to many enough so i can get a feel of their edu level in general)NB! Here you can also run into none p4p's some places more likely than others. But I feel we have to agree that regarding sexworkers their level of english mostly comes from dealing with western punters wanting to besex them(have never seen they watch english movies but rather thaisoaps, korean soaps etc so they have in general not picked up english through TV). I am ofcourse aware of there may be exceptions in rare cases but not in general. That is my bold statement. I don't go to Thailand to make a hostile environment but I don't go to make a lot of friends either. My goal is to deal with fabelous thai pussy as much as I can and be a nice chap.I've had a few street walkers in my room who watched English movies. That's a useful device for picking up the language as they can match the words spoken & how to say them with the Thai subtitles.
Where do you meet these high falutin' educated girls, at Pizza Hut? Plenty of well educated Thai girls ordering overpriced shit pizza there.
Highly educated Thai girl, an oxymoron, if you ask me, if they've only been schooled within the borders of Thailand. My hiso educated GF with a degree in marketing is an idiot when it comes to math. I asked her what 7x9 is and she had to hem and haw before she could answer, almost broke out the calculator to solve this puzzle. Ask them where Mexico is and they'll point to Canada. Ask them who Julius Caesar is and they'll respond with does he play for Manchester U?
However, I did meet two educated girls from online dating site, one studied in the US, but her attitude was shitty and the slightest thing annoyed her. In addition, she was a bit pumpui and pigged faced. Met another one with a quality job, her tits and body were incredible, but sadly her face was quite ugly but the tits and body alone made it worth the while (natural ones I might add) to exchange bodily fluids with.Your "educated" GF is obviously not so well educated after all. Some Americans can be similar. Like "Do the beaches in Australia have any sand?" OS news in the USA concerns only the country being visited by the president or where US troops are stationed. If the USA is not involved in a major way, then forget it. LOL.
It reads more like your attitude is shitty. Its easy to find lots of Thais with proper degrees from Universities in the US, England, Australia etc. Just where I go to the dentist for example, you can see all the OS degrees mounted on the walls. I don't think they are fake. Many Thais have high standards of decorum, so yes can be easy to irritate them when behaviour does not match their standard of social values. They are not like bar girls who may accept the non classy behaviour. I higher standard of politeness is required in Thailand.
Some of the Thai behavioural standards are confusing to us, but we have to learn.
Seems to be silly dating a girl when you don't like her looks.
Hm maby not at Pizza Hut but I know they do like pizza sometimes.Typical Thai pizza from Pizza hut or delivery from "The Pizza Co." are stunningly bad Pizza IMHO. Even the thin crust ones seem very bready. I lot of runny sweet sauces on their Pizzas too and poor quality toppings. Thais seem to like a completely different style of Pizza to what Farangs are used to, and then will smother it with loads of Ketchup. To eat Pizza in Thailand, you need to find a restaurant that does a good Italian or at least Farang style Pizza.
At Pizza hut, I found the black spaghetti with muscles and seafood wasn't bad, but did not like the Pizza. When in Thailand is safer to eat Thai food for the most part. Very good Farang food can be rather expensive, unless basic stuff from a sports bar for example.
Also, a first timer is unlikely to do Nana parking lot (notorious for LBs) and would more likely go to a club or even just the internet.Nana car park doesn't have LB's, they are on the street and at the entrance of NEP. I also depends on the hour of the night (more after the NEP LB bars close at 2am)
This just for the sake of proper information.
Mr Enternational
08-13-13, 12:06
Typical Thai pizza from Pizza hut or delivery from "The Pizza Co." are stunningly bad Pizza IMHO. Even the thin crust ones seem very bready. I lot of runny sweet sauces on their Pizzas too and poor quality toppings. Thais seem to like a completely different style of Pizza to what Farangs are used to, and then will smother it with loads of Ketchup. To eat Pizza in Thailand, you need to find a restaurant that does a good Italian or at least Farang style Pizza.Personal preference + not all farang are the same. I'm American farang and I find the farang pizza and farang lasagna in Italy to be total shit. I once went to a pizza shop in my own city to get a pie. I complained that it appeared to just be cheese and bread and no sauce. He said that is how it is supposed to be and that I should have asked for extra sauce. On the other hand, I find the pizza in Thailand to be acceptable (the pussy as well).
looks like another goo-goo eyed over payer spotted.sure everyone over pay, then you have one toothless crack head hooker left in the world and no isg forum. you will be doing the world a favor by leaving all of mankind with blue balls and major depression which will result in a worldwide [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and violence.sorry, i really tried not to respond to this post but as you see i failed. what someone decides to pay a girl for sex is their business and no one else's. i think kumbu already felt a twinge of sorrow towards the girl as she stated he was her first customer. ok let's assume she is lying, not uncommon amongst working girls, she displayed visible signs of stress and was extremely nervous. i am guessing here but i think kumbu decided to tip / compensate her for overcoming her reluctance and providing him with what he considered good service. even if he paid her 4000 baht it is his right to do so. as for world wide social order collapsing because someone paid a working girl 1000 baht extra is a bit of a quantum leap don't you think? that part really made me laugh.
regards,
bj
Streetwalker7
08-13-13, 13:48
Having read Mr K reports-the non sexual parts I'm pretty sure he didn't tip the hill tribe girl 1,000. Its a technique used to keep interest. He being a veteran is highly unlikely to overpay a bottom of the barrel type girl. Which as someone said Nana carpark is almost THE low end of low end hookers. The absolute low being lumpini park. LOL. Never been but I can tell. LOL.
Streetwalker7
08-13-13, 14:14
What about:
Dr Sansanee Noisakran, National Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology.
Dr Punnama Siriphanon, Department of Chemistry, Faculty of Science at King's Mongkut's Institute of Technology.
Dr Atitaya Siripinyanond, Department of Chemistry, Faculty of Science, Mahidol UniversityWhich bars do these girls work at? I want to go take a look at a highly edukated hooker. LOL.
Ps I can't tell if my hookers are smart or not. Something about them not understanding English and me not understanding Thai.
Personal preference + not all farang are the same. I'm American farang and I find the farang pizza and farang lasagna in Italy to be total shit. I once went to a pizza shop in my own city to get a pie. I complained that it appeared to just be cheese and bread and no sauce. He said that is how it is supposed to be and that I should have asked for extra sauce. On the other hand, I find the pizza in Thailand to be acceptable (the pussy as well).Some Pizza in Thailand is quite acceptable, sure. I named two sources that are rather poor however. Maybe you didn't try Pizza Co. Delivery?
Can't really say I understand how a "pie" would be cheese and bread and why you would get it at a Pizza shop. That didn't make a lot of sense to me. Are you referring to those special fold over pizzas? My country does not have them at all.
I suppose I should be in the general thread. Sorry about that.
Member #4387
08-13-13, 14:39
Typical Thai pizza from Pizza hut or delivery from "The Pizza Co." are stunningly bad Pizza IMHO. Even the thin crust ones seem very bready. I lot of runny sweet sauces on their Pizzas too and poor quality toppings. Thais seem to like a completely different style of Pizza to what Farangs are used to, and then will smother it with loads of Ketchup. To eat Pizza in Thailand, you need to find a restaurant that does a good Italian or at least Farang style Pizza.
At Pizza hut, I found the black spaghetti with muscles and seafood wasn't bad, but did not like the Pizza. When in Thailand is safer to eat Thai food for the most part. Very good Farang food can be rather expensive, unless basic stuff from a sports bar for example.Without this turning into a "chefs abroad" thread I do agree that the pizza here stinks more or less from where I have eaten (Pizza Hut incl). I am no fan of Thai food so I have found a decent restaurant in Silom called Indigo (french owned) and they do deliver the best grilled norwegian salmon I ever had. But I am no high sensation seeker when it comes to dining (I am a spoiled brat realy) and eat only a few basic things wherever I am in the world (back home incl). I can enjoy some pork on stick for some snacky snacks at times though.
Nana car park doesn't have LB's, they are on the street and at the entrance of NEP. I also depends on the hour of the night (more after the NEP LB bars close at 2am)
This just for the sake of proper information.Huh? Not sure what your definition of Nana Parking Lot is but it most certainly has LB's within the perimeter of the parking lot. More of them then girls on some nights.
Member #4387
08-13-13, 15:04
Highly educated Thai girl, an oxymoron, if you ask me, if they've only been schooled within the borders of Thailand. My hiso educated GF with a degree in marketing is an idiot when it comes to math. I asked her what 7x9 is and she had to hem and haw before she could answer, almost broke out the calculator to solve this puzzle. Ask them where Mexico is and they'll point to Canada. Ask them who Julius Caesar is and they'll respond with does he play for Manchester U?Speaking of math and numbers this reminds me of my swiss / thai "friend". She has studied mathmatics and businessmanagement in Geneva. Now she is about to finish her law degree at Chulalongkorn Uni. Her folks moved back to Bangkok. She is a numberhandler I rarerly seen before and do fairly well in the stock exchange market doing some part time work for a brokerage house. She handles some of my savings buying and selling in her name. I trust her as she has loads of money herself. So this girl is by far no idiot and would solve the 7x9 puzzle in a blink, hehe.
The only disadvantage dealing with such girls happened a few weeks back when she suddenly told me she and a friend of hers would arrive the next morning with a Thai flight in Oslo. So in many ways it is safer dealing with people not beeing able to travel without our assistance. Atleast it reduces possible unwanted surprises to a minimum for us that leads atleast a doublelife with GF's back home. Scary shit realy.
Have you even been to Bangkok?
Nana car park doesn't have LB's, they are on the street and at the entrance of NEP. I also depends on the hour of the night (more after the NEP LB bars close at 2am)
This just for the sake of proper information.
Member #4387
08-13-13, 15:27
However, I did meet two educated girls from online dating site, one studied in the US, but her attitude was shitty and the slightest thing annoyed her. In addition, she was a bit pumpui and pigged faced. Met another one with a quality job, her tits and body were incredible, but sadly her face was quite ugly but the tits and body alone made it worth the while (natural ones I might add) to exchange bodily fluids with.Lets say some of my "friends" belongs somewhere between middle and hi so class in Thailand. One thing I repeatedly confront them with is their shitty behaviour towards other people. Some of them talk about Isaan girls as "monkeys" and "not people". I tell them is not their fault beeing borned into poor families and that they should be greatful. I guess it is not parents dream to send their daughter on a sexspree to Pattaya letting her get fucked by aweful farangs. Well they have no compassion for people worse off in life than themself and this have allways surprised me. I am by far no hero myself but as some compensation for leading atleast a doublelife and a life most people not able to do I do donations to Red Cross and Salvation Army to cover up for my own guilty feel hehe.
But on a more personal level this totaly change and they are somewhat lovable and sweet. Some of them carries a certain bitchfactor hanging over them though and I find this factor extremely sexy. That makes it even more fun to realy do her from behind as some sort of unwritten punishment (all written with a humoristic twist as I am very kind man).
Speaking of math and numbers this reminds me of my swiss / thai "friend". She has studied mathmatics and businessmanagement in Geneva.I know a Thai girl, super intellect, father a Doctor, who once was a computer hacker, then employed for a while by organisation tracking down hackers,"photographic memory", can fix anything, but you don't want to let her near your computer LOL.
Education? Yes, but hardly relevant to her, she was always far too smart to interested during standard University lectures. Non that surprisingly, she is a "Tom" and has a GF.
Streetwalker7
08-13-13, 18:21
Speaking of math and numbers this reminds me of my swiss / thai "friend". She has studied mathmatics and businessmanagement in Geneva. Now she is about to finish her law degree at Chulalongkorn Uni. Her folks moved back to Bangkok. She is a numberhandler I rarerly seen before and do fairly well in the stock exchange market doing some part time work for a brokerage house. She handles some of my savings buying and selling in her name. I trust her as she has loads of money herself. So this girl is by far no idiot and would solve the 7x9 puzzle in a blink, hehe.
The only disadvantage dealing with such girls happened a few weeks back when she suddenly told me she and a friend of hers would arrive the next morning with a Thai flight in Oslo. So in many ways it is safer dealing with people not beeing able to travel without our assistance. Atleast it reduces possible unwanted surprises to a minimum for us that leads atleast a doublelife with GF's back home. Scary shit realy.You really need to evalute your life. You got 2 hookers pregnant. Now you put money in a girls name, and you believe she can trade stocks-goldman sachs can't trade stocks without rigging the market. They got billions backing them up- cany your genius compete with them?
This guy is an enigma, hangs around hi-so and yet goes for the ugliest cheapest hookers known to mankind. LOL.
Be wary of part time brokerage house workers. LOL.
Paul Kausch
08-13-13, 18:30
Which bars do these girls work at? I want to go take a look at a highly edukated hooker. LOL.
Ps I can't tell if my hookers are smart or not. Something about them not understanding English and me not understanding Thai.I was just in stitches over the incredibly stupid suggestion that there are no well-educated Thai women.
Some hookers can be cunning. Smart in an intellectual sense; well educated; would they be hookers if these were the case? High end escorts are another matter. From time to time you'll run across a university student who works as an escort on the side. I knew a couple of such young ladies in San Francisco.
Extrapolating from ones experiences with hookers and strippers working in Soi Cowboy and NEP to all of Thai society is pretty damn stupid. I find it comical anyone would want to make a public display of their two digit IQ.
FYI, Dr Noisakran is a micro biologist whose research is in host cell responses to the dengue virus infection; Dr Siriphanon is a material scientist who works on the development of nanotechnologies for use in textile manufacturing; and Dr Siripinyanond is a chemist who works with engineered nanoparticles.
Dextro Sol
08-13-13, 19:48
Even a wayward sex bomb called "Ma" at Suzie Wong, with child and saggy tits, who was only moderately good looking didn't last more than a few months, before someone did not want to share any more. I was disappointed to see her go. A jolly good lay. LOL. The very pretty Noo Dee will be gone very soon even though only a very average performer.I think Mar is really good looking, at least as long as she has make up and she is really photogenic, all the pictures I have of her is really good! She has one picture in her facebook totally without makeup and that is really different and at first I couldn't think it was her. She has recently colored her hair back to original black and its really much more beautiful than the blond hair she had when I met her a couple of months ago. I will go to visit her and her bf when I come back to Thailand in October.
There are days that you remember because something special happened to you: the first time you had sex, or the day your first child was born, or the day Arsenal came back from 2 goals to score 5 in the second half (sorry Mouse). Then there are days that you remember because something bad happened to you: your first girlfriend dumped you for that jock Brad, who later impregnated her and left her to deal with it alone, or the day your child first realized there are bad people in the world, or the day some no-name 17 year old scored a winner out of nothing against your beloved Gunners.
Monday was perhaps neither of those kinds, although if it had to be one, it would be the latter. It was not a good day, and I'm not sure I will remember it at all. It was a day full of fatigue, griping, and blurry sleep-deprived over-reactions. I do a review of Nana Liquid here, although as you will see, there isn't all that much to say.
I had not slept well in 11 days, and I was running on utter fumes. I had made the rookie mistake of adopting the position that fucking was more important than all else, even sleep. As such, the lack of sleep was now most definitely impacting on my ability to sex properly. Had I taken care to rest myself, I believe much of what happened today would have been dealt with in a much better way, and it might have ended up being the kind of day that I remember for the positives that happened. So take this as a cautionary tale for those who are either going to be new to the BKK scene, or who have been away for a while, a long while, like me, and who plan to return soon. Don't over-do it. Make sure to get your rest, and make sure you recuperate properly. In the long run, things will turn out better.
Error #1
The previous night, as I fell asleep covered in my own cum, I set my alarm for 6:30am instead of 6am, thinking the extra half hour would help me. But sleeping 3. 5 hours compared to 3 hours does not help at all. And all it did was serve to rush me in the morning. I had to rush my shower, rush my breakfast, rush my coffee, and arrived at work 10 minutes late. Dumb move.
I managed to make it through the day, and I was just completely decimated. Getting on the skytrain just before 9pm to go back to the hotel was such a chore. My back ached, my legs were cramping, my head was swollen and bloated, my eyes burned, and I could not think straight. I managed to stumble my way back to the hotel and took a quick nap: one hour, and I set my alarm to wake up. I know, in retrospect that seems daft, and it was, but it's a catch 22: when you are tired, you don't make the right decisions, and that leads to further fatigue. My thinking was that there were just a few more nights left in BKK, and I won't be back for at least a year, so I need to really make use of every night here. If I don't, I will regret it mightily. As you shall see, it would have been better to remain in bed that night.
Error #2: Should have kept sleeping.
I got out of bed at 10:30pm, quick shower, down to the coffee shop for some chicken fried rice and several cups of coffee, and then off to NEP. I went to R3 again, looking for #81, the slightly overweight beauty who would not give Kumbu the time of day. I was under this bizarre impression that my bags of charm and charisma could overcome the lack of chemistry between the two of us. I somehow thought if I put the effort into it, she would see this, appreciate it, and things would turn around. My advice to you is to not think like this. It may actually happen, but fuck, it ain't worth it. It is far too much time, effort and money for any potential end-product. And in my case, I got fuck-all for my efforts.
Error #3: Should not have wasted my time on a girl with whom I have no chemistry.
So I arrive at R3 and by this point the wait staff know me better than #81. They greet me like the returning hero, or perhaps the returning chump. I look for #81 before I even sit down, and I am reassured that she is here this time. Great, I sit down off to the side, and I don't see her round hips anywhere. I get my drink take a few sips, and then I spy a mini-party off on the other side of the room. There is a wiry blond guy with his overweight dark haired friend sitting amongst a gaggle of four girls and tequilaing it up. They are getting the ass-to-the-crotch treatment by two of the girls, and the other two are rubbing their various sensitive bits: ears, crotches, nipples, etc.
One of the girls turns out to be #81. She's (of course) doing the ass action, since she has plenty of that. She's grinding it into blond boy's nether region, and he's downing shot after shot, slapping her ass and getting more and more fixated on the butt. He kind of looks like Andrei Arshavin, and so I instantly have a soft spot for this lackadaisical Slav. However, he has his hands squarely on the ass that I covet, so I wish instant pox on him and his family. As for #81, she's enthusiastic about it, but there is a kind of detachment about her. I think this is what I like about her, the aloofness of her demeanor. But as qualities go in gogo girls, aloofness ought to be near the bottom, if not at the bottom, of the list, below Isaan Toes, horizontal lips, and being barely of legal age. At some point, she looks across the room at me, sees me, recognizes me, and remains utterly expressionless. So imagine that: she is grinding her ass very energetically into the drunker and drunker punter, while looking at me across the room with no expression on her face whatsoever. She's not aloof, she's a fucking psychopath. Check bin krap.
I then went over to R1 looking for that barely 18yr old from last night, the adorable one with perfection for beauty and utter chemistry with Kumbu. Surely she would be the serum that this tired old man needs: a pure injection of youth into an old man's tired psyche. I get in and am ushered to sit by mama san herself. My drink arrives and mama san asks me who I want. I tell her I want #45, and she scans the stage and returns with a 'no come today. ' Hmm. She failed to show up on her second day of work. This can't be good. Here's my guess: soon after I left last night, some individual without the hangups about youth arrived, BFed her, and made an impression on her back in the hotel which perhaps scarred her forever. She likely cried on the way home, wondered what had happened to her life, how had she allowed herself to be humiliated like this, and decided she can't do this any more. And that was it.
So I asked mama san if she was coming back, and mama san insisted that she was. She said she was still on the books, and I should return tomorrow. Of course. I was just so tired at this point it took several seconds for me to understand what mama san was saying. So I paid, having to think hard about how much change I expected from a 200b payment on the 155b check bin, and when I got the change, I couldn't quite figure out what to do with the change. Do I usually tip or take it all, what's the protocol again?
Error #4: Should not have had the beer.
I stumbled out of the bar, nearly tripping over a small step on the landing, and in a mental haze, I took the escalator up to R4, where I downed a beer (big mistake) , and saw nothing of worth on stage. I left, not particularly dejected, just very, very tired. I walked out of NEP and stood there looking across the street at the Nana parking lot. My girl from the night before was not to be seen, and the LB-to-real-girl ratio was about 4:3. I dazed for a good 5 minutes, ignoring the LB propositions and the touts with their pictures of naked ladies for massage. I just stood there in a stupor, smells of horny European men and frying mystery meat all around me. I just stood there at the entrance to NEP, in the middle of the thoroughfare, expressionless and motionless, for the full 5 minutes. I'm sure people thought I was drunk, but it was worse than that: I was tired.
Error #5: The BIG Error.
I was hungry again for some reason, and I wanted to get back to my coffee shop on soi 11 for some flat rice noodles, so I walked out towards Suk. As I approached the intersection, the light just turned red, so pedestrians were about to cross, and I saw the prettiest little thing, just standing there. She had a blue dress on, not skin tight or particularly revealing, but pert and proper. She had small, very sexy legs, and curvy hips. She was wearing flats and she had stockings on. Hmm. Her hair had highlights in it, and it was cut in a bop style. I love the bop: it gives girls a cute, clean, bouncy look. She was in front of me, and she turned to me and looked me right in the eyes, and for a moment there was heat. Her lips moved ever so slightly, and I knew that this would be good. I just knew that there was attraction between us, and I would likely have a very GFE experience with this little cutie.
But tired as I was, I couldn't quite figure out what the next step was. Do I talk to her? What do I say? What about my noodles, do we eat them together? What if she doesn't like flat noodles? Wait, everyone likes flat noodles, they're like popcorn. But popcorn is a snack, noodles are a meal, which makes them different food types, so not a good comparison. Fine, Kumbu, you win, there's a chance she doesn't like flat noodles, etc, etc, etc. Meanwhile pedestrians were walking, and somehow I ended up walking faster than her, and by the time I figured out I was losing her, I had lost her. I turned around before I got to the other side of the street, and just like that she was gone. I mean, literally 10 feet had passed and she disappeared. GODDAM. She must have figured I was not interested and just hopped into a taxi at the intersection. I turned, spun around, ran around a little like a confused child wondering where my beautiful blue-dressed princess had gone. Shit.
Error #5: Should have gone back to the hotel for a good night's sleep.
My noodles tasted like crap after that. They were flat noodles with a thick sauce of regret and a good sprinkling of lost opportunity. I drank it down with a huge mug full of what-the-fuck-were-you-doing juice. But now the thought was in my head that there is talent out there to be found, and I mistakenly thought that with just a little bit of leg work, a gem could be uncovered.
Error #6: See error #5.
It was now 1:30am somehow. I did not want to deal with the Leggy or Skinny gals at Climax, so I decided to give Nana Liquid a twirl. I paid my 250b entrance at the booth outside the nightclub, and you get one free drink. I should have known something was wrong when the waiter took my drink order before I even got into the nightclub itself. Anyway, I ordered a G&T, and when I opened the door to the nightclub, I realized it was totally empty. It was nearing 1:45am, and the place was empty. I was literally the only one there.
There were several other bodies there, which made me think there was some action going on, but it turns out they were all employees of the nightclub. So I sat down, sipped my G&T, and caught up on my SMSing. I had several girls that I wanted to catch up with, so I spent 20 minutes sending SMSes. Meanwhile a couple of people crept into the nightclub. I noticed a kind of sexy lady pole dancing next to a pillar. She had cut-off jean shorts and a neon yellow bikini top. It was kind of sexy, but then I saw someone else with the exact same get-up dancing at the other pillar and slowly figured out that they were dancers employed by the nightclub. So not FLs, although they were probably available too.
I looked around at this point and there was a group of girls who had arrived (probably gogo or massage girls getting off work) , and a couple of independent FLs milling about now. The independents were not very appetizing at all. There was one girl who must have been in her late thirties, was wearing a one-piece clingy dress (black and white) , and was harassing an Asian looking guy with a baseball cap on the other side of the nightclub. He clearly didn't want to be bothered by her, and was as pissed off about Nana nightclub as I was. I only hoped the independent would not find her way over to my side of the room: I did not have the wits to fend off aggressive FLs tonight.
My impression of Nana Liquid, then, is that it is struggling to attract both ladies and customers. If it was this empty at 2am, and it closes at 4am, it just does not seem like it is worth anyone's time or money. Unless something turns around dramatically, I would recommend either Climax or Spicey over Nana Liquid. Both of the former options are bustling with professional ladies ready to consume both your money and your manhood at that hour of the morning, while at Nana, I just don't know if you would get anything better than the bottom dwellers. My recommendation is to skip Nana Liquid, at least for now.
Good Decision #1
As my numbed, dull-witted mind thought it through, I realized this was just stupid. It would be at least until 2:30 before there was enough talent in the room for me to choose from, and it would be at least half an hour further before a deal could be closed, so we're looking at a departure time of 3am at the earliest. Get back to the hotel, shower, do the deed, even if all of this is expeditious, sleep would not come to me until at least 4am. I needed to be awake at 8am the next morning.
At this point I did the smartest thing I did all night: I decided to give up.
So I just walked the fuck out of there, took a motocy back to the hotel and crashed. I got almost six hours of sleep that night, which was just fairy-tale magic for me at that point. It resulted in the next day, Tuesday, being a pretty good day, monger-wise. That's my next report.
Pointy Stick
08-13-13, 23:36
Sorry, I really tried not to respond to this post but as you see I failed. What someone decides to pay a girl for sex is their business and no one else's. I think Kumbu already felt a twinge of sorrow towards the girl as she stated he was her first customer. OK let's assume she is lying, not uncommon amongst working girls, she displayed visible signs of stress and was extremely nervous. I am guessing here but I think Kumbu decided to tip / compensate her for overcoming her reluctance and providing him with what he considered good service. Even if he paid her 4000 baht it is his right to do so. As for World wide social order collapsing because someone paid a working girl 1000 baht extra is a bit of a quantum leap don't you think? That part really made me laugh.
Regards,
BJI've done that before with amateur freelancers. Sometimes its great being with a non-hardcore girls to relive the days of teenage youth. I 'm all for giving a girl brutal pounding but only if she's up for it. The extra baht might even encourage her to keep working.
Streetwalker7
08-14-13, 03:14
Funny happenings. LOL.
With the Japan national holiday innundating Rainbow 2 with horny customers. Why is not the same thing happening at Rainbow 4?
PS. I'm pretty sure numbers are up at Rainbow 1 too-but my sample size there is not that big.
Nana car park doesn't have LB's, they are on the street and at the entrance of NEP. I also depends on the hour of the night (more after the NEP LB bars close at 2am)
This just for the sake of proper information.Generally speaking as a rule, I agree &, you are correct.
The wannabe ladies (LBs) often hang on the sidewalk beside the Nana hotel parking lot, such as in front of the sign. So technicly they are not in the parking lot.
Only 1 time since 07 have I seen a guy pretending to be a girl (LB) on the car park. He was near the sign in a group of several ladies, late at night.
Other than that I don't count the times they walk across in with a customer from a NEP bar or wherever.
Mostly they hang on the other side of the street, the NEP side, including near the NEP entrance itself as you said. And the real girls work on the Nana hotel side of the street & on the parking lot area.
Huh? Not sure what your definition of Nana Parking Lot is but it most certainly has LB's within the perimeter of the parking lot. More of them then girls on some nights.Techincly, no. I agree with BionicMan.
Have you even been to Bangkok?I believe he has.
I think Mar is really good looking, at least as long as she has make up and she is really photogenic, all the pictures I have of her is really good! She has one picture in her facebook totally without makeup and that is really different and at first I couldn't think it was her. She has recently colored her hair back to original black and its really much more beautiful than the blond hair she had when I met her a couple of months ago. I will go to visit her and her bf when I come back to Thailand in October.She was well above average even with the blonde hair, not quite a top beauty for me. I. E. Not to a "must do". Good sized tits fortunately no silicone. I think her worst aspect was a raspy voice. However normally the girls that are good dancers and a bit raunchy (ha ha) , are also good on the bed, as turned out to be the case.
It is disappointing that she has been taken away from us. Was definitely something out of the ordinary in the bar.
Wasn't clear really if she looked good without makeup or not so good. I am very impressed when girls look good without the makeup.
My last SW girl's face looks a bit ordinary without makeup. Fortunately she looks great in all areas below the waist LOL. Hot ass. Night before last I arrived very late at SW, like closing time, so just had to take any girl I know that was available. Still a nice session. Naam arrived back just as I was leaving. I offered to take her as well, but she begged me for tomorrow instead."Mai waai" (not up to it) meaning that she had just returned from a pounding and could not envisage taking any more dick. Must have been a heavy session as Naam is not the smallest pussy going around and normally she has good stamina. LOL
Its not a great plan to go to the bars very late. In my case was because GF was sleeping in the "Buddha room" and I could sneak out for a while without her knowing (she never comes to check on me when falls asleep in the other room). Went to Dolls House first, but was mother's day and only a few girls left at 2AM. Called one cutie over and bought her a few drinks. Cute face and nice tits. Finally decide to BF her and then she says its her period. Perhaps hardly relevant as shortly she admitted that she doesn't actually go with customers at all (or at least not today LOL). Claims she just works for monthly salary, drink tips etc. As she is very cute, I could believe she makes good tip money. It was 3AM closing time already, so I am left with the problem of getting a girl despite the bars being closed. Fortunately being well known at SW, they could rush around and find someone available. Most girls were super drunk due to a party, but fortunately my girl wasn't and was about to sleep. Happy to change her mind since she was out of Baht. I only omit the name due to saying her face was a bit ordinary without the makeup. I have mentioned her in past reports plenty of times.
GF padlocks the front door from the inside, but fortunately I have found where she keeps the keys, so sneaking out while she sleeps is still possible, but only days when she doesn't sleep in our normal bed of course. This can happen when she is extremely over tired. Suspects me of playing up sometimes of course, but has no clue about very late night escapades. She gets up fairly early so I have to be back well before dawn. 4:30AM is a good safe limit normally.
Last night another SW girl wants to know if I will show up, as Naam relayed news of meeting me at closing time. Not sure if she is deciding on another customer (if I am not available) or is desperate for money. I cannot commit. Turns out I get a nice one from the GF instead. Today maybe a quick MP visit. Sees how things turn out.
Should never have to wank in Bangkok!
You really need to evalute your life. You got 2 hookers pregnant. Now you put money in a girls name, and you believe she can trade stocks-goldman sachs can't trade stocks without rigging the market. They got billions backing them up- cany your genius compete with them?
This guy is an enigma, hangs around hi-so and yet goes for the ugliest cheapest hookers known to mankind. LOL.
Be wary of part time brokerage house workers. LOL.Well Skogis if I was you I would feel very privileged. Life advice from such a Worldly wise spokesman as Harold. Anyone would be a fool not to listen to this man so I hope you take his advice on board and fix up your life. I shudder to think, errrm no I meant dream, what this forum would be like without Harold gracing it's pages every day like a veritable fountain of knowledge. Thank you for your invaluable insights on the day-day P4P scene my dear friend.
Regards,
BJ
Dextro Sol
08-14-13, 10:10
That kind of raspy voice always turns me on!
Most girls were super drunk due to a party, but fortunately my girl wasn't and was about to sleep.They were having a birthday party for one of the girls. Not sure if she is a waitress or dancer though. I have seen pictures from the party and it seems like they had great fun and drank a lot of tequila.
Hi friends,
I am travelling to Thailand this week end is the travel guides really helpfull in Thailand please I appreciate some inputs.
Can you please suggest me any good contact.
As for World wide social order collapsing because someone paid a working girl 1000 baht extra is a bit of a quantum leap don't you think? That part really made me laugh.
Regards, BJNo no, the entire market structure will collapse due to guys overpaying. LOL The price police are watching us closely. Actually I quite agree. I don't care what he paid and for what reason. I have regularly paid girls more than an initially agreed price (for rare times when a pre agreement was made) , as a tip, to be fair reward for effort, attitude, duration, skills, quality or for whatever reason. So what and who cares?
They will hopefully be keen and relaxed for next time.
Hi friends I am travelling to Thailand this week end is the travel guides really helpfull in Thailand please I appreciate some inputs.
Can you please suggest me any good contact.Really we should be in the general thread. I think you could be a bit more specific exactly what type of "guides" you talk about. If sex is your thing then read this forum. If nature is your thing, research the national parks of Thailand.
Years ago I read travel books but in modern day use the internet more. Of the books I read, Lonely Planet Guide to Thailand was one of the least impressive to me even though thick. Perhaps has been rewritten in recent years. It seemed to focus on mundane things like Hotels to stay, restaurants to eat, etc. Only useful stuff was usually where to go to get from one place to another, e. G. Bus, trains, etc. The most important travel info for me is details of all the attractions that places have to offer, whether related to nature, culture, history, arts, or to sexual escapades. Some travel books are very weak in telling you what there is to do, and what is really worth seeing.
E. G. I think the Kanchanaburi War museum, cemetery, and "death" railway is rather boring stuff. Little is divulged about the great sites of nature in the area to the average traveller.
How many people have been to the magnificent "Gaew Komol" Crystal Calcite cave in Mae Hong Son province? Most stunning cave in Thailand. Not your typical limestone stuff. I bet not many travel guides mention it.
What bays in Koh Tao Island have the best coral for snorkelling and sheltered from the typical winds? What is the right time of year to go? Hard to get info. I think I make my point.
If your travel guide is a local expert who knows the area, then you are better off, providing he is not just taking you to the same old standard tourist tours, but interested in what style of things you want to do.
When I go to some new part of Thailand, I like to find a really knowledgeable driver / boatman and guide and also to research myself on the internet. Consult the local Thais. They often know more than the foreign travels writers.
You can't know where you want to stay until you know where the attractions are located.
Member #4387
08-14-13, 16:46
You really need to evalute your life. You got 2 hookers pregnant. Now you put money in a girls name, and you believe she can trade stocks-goldman sachs can't trade stocks without rigging the market. They got billions backing them up- cany your genius compete with them?
This guy is an enigma, hangs around hi-so and yet goes for the ugliest cheapest hookers known to mankind. LOL.
Be wary of part time brokerage house workers. LOL.
Well Skogis if I was you I would feel very privileged. Life advice from such a Worldly wise spokesman as Harold. Anyone would be a fool not to listen to this man so I hope you take his advice on board and fix up your life. I shudder to think, errrm no I meant dream, what this forum would be like without Harold gracing it's pages every day like a veritable fountain of knowledge. Thank you for your invaluable insights on the day-day P4P scene my dear friend.
Regards.
BJTo Harold: I know feed your trolling is stupid and does not make any sense whatsoever (but there are forces within me telling me I can not let you go dear Harold). Anyway since chances are relatively big you will be evicted / blocked from this forum and / or you will be hospitalized into a mentalinstitution any day now I feel it is important to clearify atleast 2 things so all the other ISGers (not You that is pointless) : yes I have made 2 girls pregnant and one is my Halfpinay GF from back home since soon 6 years now so that was bound to happen at some stage (she is borned and raised in my country). She is horny and extremely beautiful (way out of your low GoGo life leauge) but ofcourse no p4p. Nr 2 is a Quezon City girl (ms Preggy) also very beautiful and horny. This was an unplanned pregnancy as my seeds went while there for a moment and I did fail the cockpulloutsoonenough so swimmers where left alone for their own race inside her. My mistake and I deal with this matter as best I can. No chance I will leave her with all in responsibility as I will take care of my offspring no matter what. Coincidentaly she does quite nice herself with good edu and a quite well off family. I have not been asked to support her nor her family one bit (I have recently even paid her folks a visit) but I pay hospitalbills for her med checkups at St Lukes from selfish reasons as I want the baby to be to have best care there is to be had in Quezon City. Probably not necessary as she would manage quite fine dealing with this alone but I don't want it like that. Well atleast towards the end of this year and in the beginning of the next one I will have a couple of offsprings so my main task on this planet is fullfilled.
I know it is useless to ask but where have I found the ugliest and cheapest hookers known to mankind? And from my moneygirl at the stock exchange I could not care less if people rig her up as money seems to splash into my accounts every day and even if she is just as bitchy as I like them she is stunning and horny as well.
Dr BJ: I am privileged that Harold would use time and effort in his busy life down in his mothers basement to comment my humble postings. His meanings are realy important to me. My life down in the gutter will soon fix itself as I have adopted Harolds wisdom of life and made him my own leading star. So things start to pick up now any day soon. I hope some day I will be able to make enough money so I could visit Bangkok for real and I hope Harold one day will too after his right hand inflammation is treated. And Doc I find Harold not as a fountain of knowledge but as herpes. But except from that his meanings do count and he creates a good balance to this forum and I simply can not get myself to hit the ignore button even if that would be the wice thing to do.
To confused readers Harold / Streetwalker is the same troll.
RBDave, surprised to see you trolling here, given your previous post history. But I will indulge you.
Definitely not LB. Her breasts were not hard, they were firm, and her vagina was not shallow, it was divided (both points actually mentioned in the report). Also, I think the taxi guy was on standby BECAUSE it was her first time: she was nervous. I know, I know, the post was TL, so DR, but perhaps DC if you DR.
But I don't feel particularly strong about any of this. I'm not into LBs: they neither attract me nor frighten me. If she was a LB and I never knew it, then she wasn't a LB to me. Also, it is entirely possible that she lied to me about being her first customer. I have no doubt that people lie. I don't believe that was the case, but I have been plenty wrong in the past.Sorry I came off sounding like a troll. I should not have said your report was "boring" as I do think the forum is better off with your TLs than without. It's just that for me, a computer screen isn't really conducive to reading long reports. But I'm sure that others really enjoy them.
And unlike others, I do like hearing about the details on how the night went, not just what sex acts as specific girl offered. I think learning about the "Thailand experience" is more valuable than the experience with an individual woman as we all know your mileage may vary for any given girl. I also believe the more likely you are able to receive the same experience with a girl as all other guys, the more likely it will be a detached mechanical experience.
Imagine you are minding your own business and this happens to you. Ouch!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23229422
We should all pitch in and send a few here to Malawi.
To confused readers Harold / Streetwalker is the same troll.Thanks guys for this insight. I presume the style is unmistakenly the same. I did not pay enough attention to Harold to remember the style at all, but recently finding myself disagreeing with everything SW7 writes and just thinking "highly misguided". LOL. Strangely I find both Harold and SW7 as somewhat innocuous rather than massively annoying, so the Ignore List has not been at all necessary. However its now easy to see how I can save time.
When I was reincarnated, some had the talent to recognise my near English on day one, before I made it too obvious. Starting a sentence with "But" was a complete give away in my case.
So yes guys can change the handle but it takes real talent to hide the style.
Traveler1234
08-14-13, 19:02
When I was reincarnated.but it takes real talent to hide the style.One day would like to know why the whole reincarnation process occurred? The original syzygies was a Rock Star!
One day would like to know why the whole reincarnation process occurred? The original syzygies was a Rock Star!I think it was simply a problem with the original name being too obvious.
Something more meaningless was required just like T1234 means very little really.
Fortunately not many can even spell Syzygies correctly.
Actually there was another change due to purely technical problems with the forum.
I changed email address, and turns out your email is your real behind the scenes I'd, and forum would not allow me to use the old handle on a new email, at a time when I was actually merging two different handles into one.
You can't have same email address on two handles I think.
In the end was easier to accept that old handle was already used (by me) and pick a new one.
So yes guys can change the handle but it takes real talent to hide the style.You can take the handle out of the guy, but you can't take the guy out of the handle (or something like that). Anyway, too bad you don't allow PM, Mr S. I'll be in town this Saturday and it would be great to meet up (again, after having met at LL 4 years ago, I think). Maybe see you at SW's around 9pm? Sorry for off topic. Proper report to follow, I hope.
So hyped. Leave Friday morning, arrive 9:30PM Saturday. I'll be sure to post a couple of reports. If anyone wants to meet up for a beer, feel free to PM me. I'm 28 and this is my first trip to LoS, spending 2 months backpacking with a bit of mongering on the side.
I just got to try to find a place to watch the UFC fights this weekend.
Streetwalker7
08-15-13, 03:50
one great thing about lollipoops and mercury. your cola will be top rate. they serve cans- carbonation stiill high quality. not from plastic bottles where if you get the last servings your cola will be flatt. just like many of the girls. lol.
i noticed very few silicone in mercury-i believe its because no one takes them. they got no money. lol.
You can take the handle out of the guy, but you can't take the guy out of the handle (or something like that). Anyway, too bad you don't allow PM, Mr S. I'll be in town this Saturday and it would be great to meet up (again, after having met at LL 4 years ago, I think). Maybe see you at SW's around 9pm? Sorry for off topic. Proper report to follow, I hope.I struggled for a moment to remember which guy you are, to sync the handle with the real name. Old age memory works slow. LOL. I will contact.
I really must be a freak. However arriving at Baccara bar at 1:30AM I watched two sets of girls downstairs and only managed to find one pretty face that I really liked. Red hair No. 175. Unfortunately she had big silicone enhancements that looked ridiculous. I suppose their must have been some hot girls early in the evening. However late, we had fatties, broad faced girls, many girls with noses that curve downwards like an eagle's beak (okay less so) probably many were fake nose jobs, fake tits, weird hair styles, massive eyelashes, many girls appear to be trying to look like Farangs or like dolls and succeeding a bit to have very boring faces to me. No exotic looks really. The Japanese are obviously liking these looks but I don't understand why. Not many gazelle types, and not many with really good waist to thigh ratio. Obviously I didn't stay too long. I am liking not broad faces, cute little upturned noses, high cheek bones etc. Another obvious problem was they had bras and skirts on. Some would surely have looked better nude. The dregs left over late at Bacarra are a fairly boring lot. I must be a freak to feel this way.
Moved on to a nudie bar. Okay Many girls there weren't that special either, but far less fake looks. The odd good ass amongst the rabble and figure good enough to turn me on. Took two of the usual suspects with cute asses and okay faces. Tight girls where the feeling of being in them for an extended time is just blissful, so good its like I don't feel like stopping. They seem to enjoy too. Nice kissing two at a time and double girl blow jobs.
Last Monday had a very quick look in Crazy House. Was not a busy night. Upstairs 2nd floor no girls and downstairs very few nude. Maybe I was too late. I only saw one with all her gear off being molested by a customer. Wasn't interesting enough to stay.
Streetwalker7
08-16-13, 06:06
Well Skogis if I was you I would feel very privileged. Life advice from such a Worldly wise spokesman as Harold. Anyone would be a fool not to listen to this man so I hope you take his advice on board and fix up your life. I shudder to think, errrm no I meant dream, what this forum would be like without Harold gracing it's pages every day like a veritable fountain of knowledge. Thank you for your invaluable insights on the day-day P4P scene my dear friend.
Regards,
BJI know we all are sex touriss. LOL. But can't you find better examples of guys to back up. A guy thinking he pays for pre-natal check-ups and he has fulfilled his fatherly duties. LOL.
Talk about being born behind the proverbial eight ball.
Hope the kids turn out better than the parents. LOL.
I'm sure you wouldn't want a guy like this marrying your daughters, or just having sex with them. Good grief.
I hadn't been to Climax or really any late night disco in a couple of years but a few weeks back I was having trouble sleeping and was having even more trouble finding freelancers that I liked so I decided to go and check it out and have been perhaps 5 times in this period. It's been a bit of a silly circus really. In general I would say that it's ok female wise though not really any great shakes. Most of the women are 25-35 I would guess and average in looks with exceptions. You just have to keep moving in a circle around the place and chances are that you will find something you like tucked away in a corner or with a group of friends. By midnight the disco already has a number of girls in place strategically sitting at their tables trying to make eye contact with pretty much any human life form that passes. I've seen old goats pick up some of the nicer looking girls in the place so it's not like they are all looking for young studs (which I am far from and in truth never was. Not even close.). And if you don't see anything you like, just wait for the next train because they flow in all night long. What they were doing before they showed up at 4am is a mystery. Maybe they just woke up. After going to the former Insomnia now Insanity last night I can easily say Climax is the better choice. At midnight Insanity was pretty much empty except for some elderly Coyote Dancers.
But so far I seem to have found myself under a black cloud at Climax and I am wondering if late night freelancers have really gotten this expensive and this difficult. First time out it was easy. 2,000 baht short time for a decent looking girl who acted like a sweetie back in the room. But it's all been downhill since then. Next time out I was sitting at a table and a Farang and what I thought was his Thai girl sat down too. They seemed sweet on one another as only low lights and a steady supply of spirits can accomplish. She is blonde and pretty. Lucky guy I thought. She asks for another drink and he goes swimming thru his pockets to try and come up with enough money to pay the bill. He starts literally counting his loose change but still falls short and she throws in the difference. He is now the loose change and she begins playing footsie with me under the table and ignores the poor guy who had already probably spent a load on her previous drinks. I feel a little weird but it's late and she was the best thing I had seen so far so I just let her have her way with me under the table and kept a straight face. He kept looking deep into her eyes with burning slightly addled sexual passion. She just kept squeezing me and giving him a Closed for Business look. Eventually he wanders away a broken man in mind and finances. I hope he did not have far to go because he didn't even have taxi money. We quickly make a deal for 2, 000 baht and get into a taxi. On the way she tries to up the ante to 3, 000 baht and I say no. She whines a bit. In my room she brings it up again and wants it upfront. Again I say no to the amount and to being upfront. Ok she pouts. I know at this point and probably should have known it when she dismissed the other guy that this wasn't going to go well. Or for very long. More whining. Then I say how about a BJ. Only with condom. That was the final straw. This was turning out to be sucky. I tell her here is a thousand baht, adios. Much more whining. I said a thousand baht for nothing isn't too bad a deal. Back and forth. Finally she leaves.
A few nights later I learn a new lesson. Nothing is taken for granted till the deal is sealed. So in Climax once again I see a cutie and sidle up to her and do the usual Climax sophisticated pick up thing. Smile. Clink her bottle with mine and kind of move in unison with her. She picks up on this and we chat, I buy her a drink, we move in unison some more. Time passes. I haven't said anything about going with her but I thought there was an understanding between us. Like there was between Hitler and Stalin. I move away for a minute to look at the band and some guy slides in like Rickey Henderson and strikes a deal in like 5 seconds with her and they walk off. I am like, wow how did that happen. What a shmuck I am. There are no understandings till the mention of money has passed your lips.
Nights later. I continue to trip over my self. Really pretty girl. Again we go thru the Climax mating ritual. With her for over an hour. She is doing a wonderful standing lap dance on me and I am liking it. We are having fun. Sure it's business but it can be fun just hanging out with these girls and having them dote on your dick. It gets to 4am and I say let's get going. Ok she replies but the pleasure of my company will cost you 5, 000 baht. I want to make sure I hear her correctly. 5,000 baht? Yes. Well good luck with that I say and turn around and leave. 5,000 baht? Are girls really asking for that? All I could think of was that her theory of men was hard dick, soft brain. She thought she had me in the palm of her hand, well she did at times, but I've been coming her for a long time and no girl has ever asked me for 5, 000 baht. At least not for sex. Other things, yes. All the time. Hell that is two gogo girls. So another night wasted though the lap dance was pretty nice but we don't come to Bangkok for lap dances.
This takes us to last night. Another night, another girl. This one admittedly only average at best but I have a weakness for overbites and she had one that was an orthodontist's nightmare. Same same. Standing lap dance and so on. Gets me to buy drinks for her three friends as well as herself. Ok why not. 3am and I ask her if she wants to come back with me. Ok. But need money. How much. 3,000 baht. Bargain her down to 2, 500 which is more than her looks deserve. In truth a 1500 baht girl. But it was 3am and I did not have the energy to start over again. So I agree and say let's go. No she replies, I want to listen to the music some more and by the way my friends all need a refill. At this point I retreat to the men's room to think this over. Its 3am, I am quite horny but this has every bad sign there is hung on this one. So I look thru my phone for a long sms and take it to her, and she has moved near the door because I think she suspected I was going to make a break for it, and show her the sms and tell her that my friend is very sick and has gone to the hospital and I need to go see him. My last look at her was one with her mouth agape looking to catch a fly.
So I am just curious to know from the guys who have been to Climax lately what girls have been asking them. 2,000 for st is fair but this 3, 000 and 5, 000 baht business is just silly or is that where the late night disco girls are these days?
Streetwalker7
08-16-13, 12:28
I hadn't been to Climax or really any late night disco in a couple of years but a few weeks back I was having trouble sleeping and was having even more trouble finding freelancers that I liked so I decided to go and check it out and have been perhaps 5 times in this period. It's been a bit of a silly circus really. In general I would say that it's ok female wise though not really any great shakes. Most of ng you like, just wait for the next train because they flow in all night long. What they were doing before they showed up at 4am is a mystery. Maybe they just woke up. After going to the former Insomnia now Insanity last night I can easily say Climax is the better choice. At midnight Insanity was pretty much empty except for some elderly Coyote Dancers.
But so far I seem to have found myself under a black cloud at Climax and I am wondering if late night freelancers have really gotten this expensive and this difficult...WOW. This is a good read.
Some observations. Thats what I do. LOL.
Very believable. No offense to anyone but one guy starts out bad but always wins the girl over is just not realistic. These girl are out for money- they could care less if you pleasure them or not.
Also one guy doesn't even mention money yet seems to get good deals- whats up with that. The tactic from the girls point of view to not mention baht is to make sure guy overpays not underpays.
I still don't believe that a guys looks matter much. Clean and not look like jack the ripper-you ok. However dark skin man to Asian style girl does matter. LOL. 2 guys at R2 last night couldn't get girls to go with them. Maybe it was thier Thai agent- who knows.
We are their customers, not their boyfriends.
More report from you!
IndianVisit
08-16-13, 14:09
Around 2 months back I posted few trip reports on Bangkok and Pattaya forum. I have got 7 days leave. In late September. Confused where to go. Thailand or Philippines. First has got advantage of knowing the place and hence comfortable, lots of opportunities and airfare slightly less than Philippines. Negative points are most of girls in clubs / bars / gogo bars / massage centers are not beautiful. I happened to see one girl coming to spanky at Pattaya at 7 pm. Without make up. Secondly there is no GF attitude. A big no-no to kissing but most are comfortable with BBBJ.
What I get impression from internet that Filipino are fairer, good English and more girl friendly and no Indian hate attitude. This racist attitude has been created by various stories implanted by certain bars owners and hence Thai girl carry same notions. Some places when I found some girls were not ready to come with me in Bangkok was more due to presence of other girls around.
The purpose of this post is that if I visit Thailand, some things I do not understand. Coyote dancers are I understand are not available but in some forums it is mentioned that bar fines is high for coyote dancers. Then what if they go with customers.
The concept of karaoke bars. The girls do give company in bars but what fun a person can have. Will they go out with person and if yes then it is just company or involves sex.
Even I think stickman also felt confused what are show girls / dance girls and who will be available for bar fine and who will not.
Are hello girls are available for bar fine or not.
I stayed at LKMetro area but I was not sure that girls sitting in bar can be bar fined or not. I did not ask.
Probably I may go both places Pattaya and Angeles city. 3-3 days.
Thanks for any assistance / guidance / opinions.
JohnnyVegas
08-16-13, 14:47
hi mates. i haven't been to bkk in ahile as i'm usually in pattaya but i will be arriving 6:00 am. by the time i get downtown to suk it will be around 8:00 am. any ideas for some morning action? i can only think of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or annies. both of which probably don't open until 11:00 am.
thanks!
hi mates. i haven't been to bkk in ahile as i'm usually in pattaya but i will be arriving 6:00 am. by the time i get downtown to suk it will be around 8:00 am. any ideas for some morning action? i can only think of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or annies. both of which probably don't open until 11:00 am.
thanks!i think annies opens at 10 am but may not have many girls at that time? i think a few daytime bars on sukhumvit soi 4 may open earlier, but not certain.
funny term "downtown". i think this part is only a centre for tourists but not main city or main business district.
can get outcall from various sources if you know who/what you want. i would be ringing some girl i know to make an arrangement.
no sure if many guys go looking for girls at 8am.
Member #4387
08-16-13, 15:09
So I am just curious to know from the guys who have been to Climax lately what girls have been asking them. 2,000 for st is fair but this 3, 000 and 5, 000 baht business is just silly or is that where the late night disco girls are these days?Hm it seems we are playing a different game. Been to Climax last time 3 of August this year and I believe I have visited Climax some 150 times previous that to be modest the last 5 years or so. You loose out on having a blast on atleast two major points I believe.
1. I don't see any chemistry building. I have 3 major mongeringpoints dealing with freelancers in nightclubs and that is chemistry chemistry and chemistry (have fun, laugh and drink this creates good mongeringconditions). This leaves me with good performance sexwice in atleast 95 to 98% of my takeouts.
2. See point 1.
I am not an expert but we have obviously two different styles. I never get asked for prices but I do treat the girls and even sometimes her friends as well with nice bottleservice (I am not pricesensitive at all). I choose new ladies almost everytime I am in Climax (sometimes managment picks them out for me as they know my taste by now. If I am lazy that is). This have recently start to create big jelousy issues from some of my earlier "victims" because they want to go with me again (I have been slapped, spat at, kicked, yelled at etc). In a mongerway I take this as a compliment sounds funny but I do. Means I am doing something right and the girls enjoyed time with me. I can not say I have changed my monger game in Climax much the last 5 years. I play with the ladies as this was a normal nightclub and I respect them and I let it show I want them to have fun too (even if I am aware they are prostitutes). We also make very different observations in Climax regarding your report. Climax is a fun place to hang out and if you can not hook up with a fun and sexy spinner you are doing something wrong. Ofcourse most of the girls in climax are hookers, but through time I have picked up signs they do like to hang out more with younger men than old men (what is old what is young hard to say. I am 40). Well Well.
There are no soulution what is the best way of mongering in a freelancenightclub so every man on his own. My style leaves me with extremely little hazzle. If I have been quoted of price upfront it is atleast so long time ago so I frankly can not remember it. When chemistry is all set and the night is well on its way I take my chosen girl and head for my hotel. Even if we don't discuss it upfront I allways go for LT and the girls seems fine with it. I leave them tip / compensation whatsoever ranging around 3K (I have done that for 5 years now so I keep a consistent pricing). They stay mostly well into midday / afternoon.
In general I find Climax a fun place. I will start taking my business elsewhere though as I hear reports from friends that some of the stunners at Climax and new stunners as well head for other nearby location instead. Fine by me as I don't enjoy beeing spat at or slapped.
Uncle Volodya
08-16-13, 15:59
At this point I did the smartest thing I did all night: I decided to give up.
So I just walked the fuck out of there, took a motocy back to the hotel and crashed. I got almost six hours of sleep that night, which was just fairy-tale magic for me at that point. It resulted in the next day, Tuesday, being a pretty good day, monger-wise. That's my next report.Kumbu My friend!
I just stumbled across your reports this morning and have enjoyed them mightily. This is indeed a triumphant return to BKK on your part!
As for the last post, there's absolutely no shame in taking a night off. Especially since you have to labor through the day at work and can't' sleep in like most hobbyists do. I am confident that your next report will fins you back on your A game and triumphantly plunging your courageous tongue into some sweet thing's derriere.
And don't let the boo birds and trolls discourage you from writing. Your posts are among the most entertaining, informative, and cerebral on this site. Ignore the troglodytes and lea them to their ST vs LT debates. The people who count would miss your posts.
As for myself, I am taking a break form the mongering game as I am pursuing a relationship with a truly special woman. I've had an unceremonious relapse or two (see Beijing thread for the gory details) but am trying t be a good boy. So I have to live vicariously through the good deeds of you and other ISGers.
Keep up the excellent work!
And stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V
Traveler1234
08-16-13, 16:44
any ideas for some morning action? i can only think of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or annies. both of which probably don't open until 11:00 am.ez does morning outcalls, just need to pre-book and give them hotel, then call upon arrival with room number.
I think Annies opens at 10 AM but may not have many girls at that time? I think a few daytime bars on Sukhumvit Soi 4 may open earlier, but not certain.Annie's opens at 11 and I agree, might not be the peak hour for the line up.
Nana car park surely offers some FL, at any time of the day or night. The operation seems a franchise of 7/11 as they work 24/7 LOL
Annie's opens at 11 and I agree, might not be the peak hour for the line up.Annies web site claims they open at 10AM. Of course opening and closing times are the worst time to find many girls.
Streetwalker7
08-16-13, 18:21
One week going and all Rainbow 2, 4 and 1 are as busy as I've ever seen them. Not a good time to barfine your mediocre to avg bargirl as I'm sure they want quick turnover.
This pace can't go on. It's a madhouse. That Japan holiday, I think ends, so I'll keep you updated.
Streetwalker7
08-16-13, 18:26
What I get impression from internet that Filipino are fairer, good English and more girl friendly and no Indian hate attitude. This racist attitude has been created by various stories implanted by certain bars owners and hence Thai girl carry same notions. Some places when I found some girls were not ready to come with me in Bangkok was more due to presence of other girls around.I think the bar owners got feedback from the girls about Indian behavior. Why does everyone put the blame on everyone but the girls. It's the girls who have to sex the Indian. LOL.
Ps. I don't blame the girls for avoiding certain kinds of men, and not only Indians. LOL.
AssLover945
08-16-13, 18:29
Today I was in mood to while away my time a bit and just chucked off from office on some context and sat by a roadside eatery, While eating somtam and watching the world go by, I was just looking at tight asses in jeans, skirts etc go by, while that would not make me horny, but the sight of fresh new faces and backsides every few mins is a new joy I am discovering in Bangkok. Wasnt expecting anything to happen, when a nice bubblebutt in jeans stopped by at the nearby shop to buy some khanom. And while I was appreciating her backside, she could clearly see that I was drooling over her buns, our eyes met for a fleeting second and there was a smile on her face, or was it not? . Was I just imagining things. Anyway being on suk road, the chances that she might be a WG was very high, so I paid up hurriedly for my somtam and started following her from a safe distance, and I was right! Saw her enter a oily and I decided to follow into the shop. But instead I just passed by, thinking that she is not from one of the approved shops so the service might be bad. But (and what a big butt!) my dick would lead me straight back within 10 mins and sure enough, she was there with a bright smile ready to welcome me. The deal with amasan was quick and promptly I was led upstairs. And that is where the drama started.
First off I must say it was one of the most beautiful backside I had seen for a long time! She was from Rayong and this was the 2nd girl with such a beautiful Ass from Rayong. I like big girls with big asses and holly molly what a superb fit she was. I was salivating even before I got a BJ. But she turned out to be a total starfish. She was not young, around 30, so I guess she must have seen a lot, but she was shy to turn and show off her back, which she thought was embarassing, where as I was dying to appreciate it. After much cajoling she allowed me to play a bit and see it nicely. 2nd disappointment, with such a lovely ass, it deserved a kiss. But not body fluids exchange. 3rd no BBBJ only CBJ. I should have chucked out at that time, but I just had to have a good fuck with that ass jiggling my rod. Thankfully I was allowed a doggy position and I played a bit before her majesty's vigilant self wanted me to come over quickly. Anyway since I was not enjoying, I came quickly. I went down paid and left. Such a bad day! * SIGH *
3rd no BBBJ only CBJ. I should have chucked out at that time, but I just had to have a good fuck with that ass jiggling my rod. Thankfully I was allowed a doggy position and I played a bit before her majesty's vigilant self wanted me to come over quickly. Anyway since I was not enjoying, I came quickly. I went down paid and left. Such a bad day! * SIGH *Name of the massage shop?
There are days that you remember because something special happened to you: the first time you had sex, or the day your first child was born, or the day Arsenal came back from 2 goals to score 5 in the second half (sorry Mouse). Then there are days that you remember because something bad happened to you: your first girlfriend dumped you for that jock Brad, who later impregnated her and left her to deal with it alone, or the day your child first realized there are bad people in the world, or the day some no-name 17 year old scored a winner out of nothing against your beloved GunnersJust catching up with your posts... Magnificent as always... But a worrying preoccupation with the arse of North London... :)
Guilty as charged, sir, on both counts:
a worrying preoccupation with the arse
a worrying preoccupation with the arse of North London
[QUOTE=BionicMan-Annie's opens at 11 and I agree, might not be the peak hour for the line up.
Nana car park surely offers some FL, at any time of the day or night. The operation seems a franchise of 7/11 as they work 24/7 LOL[/QUOTE]Nope, never any action in the Nana parking lot daytime. They start coming at 6PM.
Leave yuor basement and come to BKK. At least once. And LOL?
As for myself, I am taking a break form the mongering game as I am pursuing a relationship with a truly special woman. I've had an unceremonious relapse or two (see Beijing thread for the gory details) but am trying t be a good boy. So I have to live vicariously through the good deeds of you and other ISGers.Uncle V, nice to see you still here, albeit not active like the old days. We've all been there (being the good boy) , as have I over the last three years, but as you say, we all fall off the wagon once in a while (or is it getting back on the wagon?). I'll take a look at your Beijing encounters, and needless to say, I'm sure it will be interesting.
Checked out the Crazy House again around 1:30AM so a bit too late really. First set was clothed dancers. A couple were moderately pretty. I noticed setup has the see through floor so copying Baccara and some others, but style is much more raunchy. Girls were going around giving guys lap dances. Some were fully nude but figures not that great. One girl standing over seated guy and him nuzzling in the pussy. Was a bit bored and about to go when changed to the 2nd set of nude dancers. These were better looking than the clothed ones. One even very pretty but a bit shy despite being nude. I might have called her over but seems she already had a customer. Definitely the place has possibilities an I can see it being on the rise and stealing business from the other bars.
Moved on to Doll House to visit my girl Prao who doesn't go with customers. Managed to get her to dance briefly with bra off to show magnificent tits, copped a feel, all for tip money, and despite claiming she never kissed a customer before managed to get a very quick peck again for tips. Really was just a game to see what I could get but she was clearly winning LOL as I was clearly tipping more than she was worth. Who cares? Other girls were very envious that she could get tips for doing so little. I moved upstairs and saw an Old fucking partner Ni had returned to DH after long absence. I also spotted a podium dancer and took all of one second to decide I should fuck her. She was "Naam" a bambi type from Surin (small real tits but curvy). She used to work Billboard but now only at DH for 2 days. Someone will no doubt know her. Has braces on teeth. 155 cm tall (without the heels) 40 Kg. Lucky I decided quick as was close to closing. Was another very pretty girl there but she seemed taken.
Went for short time at Asoke Place. She was shy didn't want to shower with me. Started off and she allowed nice kissing. I started kissing her ass too and she wanted to know why Farangs always like to kiss her ass (as though there was something wrong with it). Incredibly beautiful ass. I said okay she could turn over. I went to kiss the pussy. She said I cannot eat! I said fine no eating, just kissing only, insisting a bit. Soon she complained I was not exactly kissing. Actually was more a cross between licking and sucking. She was starting to get turned on so tried to stop me again, but I was fairly insistent. LOL Her resistance was fairly weak and admitted she liked it too much which was why I should stop.
After DATY I am back DFKing her while massaging her pussy. She doesn't stop me from putting a finger in. I come across a sponge stuffed up there and ask her to take it out. I explain I can't fuck her with it in as it is only 3-4 inches in and I am longer than that. She says she doesn't have period and agrees to remove it. Next I finger her again and get to put finger all the way in. She feels great inside. I continue this while she gives me a BBBJ. We move fucking in several positions, doggy, prone, mish, her on side me above, both on side, etc. Its all good throughout. She specially enjoys a sort of doggy position where I massage her clit concurrently and shudders into spasms.
Very enjoyable fuck. At the end she calls be a bad boy for making her tired as she was planning on partying at the disco. I didn't ask but she claimed she already came twice and was rather spent now. I said it was her fault for being so sensitive and cumming so easily.
After doing her makeup and lipstick she gave me a nice kiss so I am wearing half the lipstick at the end. Definite repeat for me. I like her small face, high cheek bones and little upturned nose (not fake in any way well except for the eyelashes). All up short time was about 1 hour 20 mins of which 20 mins would have been showering and other mucking around and about 1 hour of activities on the bed.
I think initially it was just a booking for her (we had little time before bar closing time to build the chemistry) and she was determined not to enjoy herself, but she lost that battle quite easily. She probably has umpteen boyfriends but claims no one really likes her LOL. She knows that all struggle will be useless next time. I will have my way.
Sir Lancelot
08-17-13, 02:06
Around 2 months back I posted few trip reports on Bangkok and Pattaya forum. I have got 7 days leave. In late September. Confused where to go. Thailand or Philippines.In 7 days your best option is to pick either Pattaya or Angeles. If you split your time between two cities, you'll just skim the surface of each and you'll also waste one of your precious days traveling.
A lot of what you say about Angeles rings true. The girls speak superior English and the girl-friend experience is much easier to find. Filipino girls are more carnal creatures, that's for sure. The bar-fine system is different too, which means you don't get as many Dexy's (midnight runners). You pay the club up-front for the girl and you get her for long-time (exceptions prevail of course). This means it is MUCH cheaper than Thailand. In fact I worked it out and I reckon you could stay long-time with a girl in Angeles for a third of the price you'd pay for short-time with a similar quality girl from Walking Street. If you went to Angeles you'd have a memorable time (if you chose this option, make sure you visit Atlantis, Pony Tails, Insomnia, Typhoon, Body Shop, Carousel etc). Pattaya on the other hand is more expensive and there are more frustrations. But it's certainly more exciting with much more variety (Angeles is essentially just a gogo town and sleepier during the day). In Pattaya you've got Walking Street, countless gogo bars, beer bar complexes, freelancers, nightclubs, massage parlours, soi 6 etc. You could visit massage parlours by day and the gogo / beer bars at night and you could meet a LOT of girls in one week.
The purpose of this post is that if I visit Thailand, some things I do not understand. Coyote dancers are I understand are not available but in some forums it is mentioned that bar fines is high for coyote dancers. Then what if they go with customers.Coyote girls are available, just for a higher price. Firstly it should be pointed out that not all bars have them but in those that do, they're generally the prettier girls and the best dancers. Coyote girls dress differently from the other girls so can be easily identified. They dance near the door and try to entice customers in to the bar. I couldn't resist buying a drink for one in Champagne on Soi LK Metro. She was particularly pretty but within one minute of downing her drink, she left to go up and dance again next to the door. These girls make a fortune from lady-drinks so they don't need to spread their legs for cash unless the price is right. Expect to pay higher than other girls. I saw another great looking 'coyote' in Happy Agogo. She was dancing on her own small stage and wore a different outfit to the other girls (shorts, stockings and a top, as opposed to the usual bra and panties). She was a breathtaking girl so I called her down and bought her a lady-drink but when I enquired about her bar-fine, she quoted me 2500ST and 4000LT. I was pleasantly surprised because it was early in the night and generally girls who quote 2500 for short-time will drop quite easily to 2000. I suspect negotiations are tougher with coyote girls though. In this case I didn't ask because I wanted to visit some other bars.
What I get impression from internet that Filipino are fairer, good English and more girl friendly and no Indian hate attitude. This racist attitude has been created by various stories implanted by certain bars owners.I must say, I did encounter some anti-Indian behaviour in Pattaya. I was waiting for a friend outside Alcatraz on Walking Street and the security guards on the door refused to let a group of about ten Indians enter. They said 'members only' but my friend and I entered five minutes later without problem. It's not down to skin-colour though. Indian's often walk around in large groups and I'm told that when they enter a bar, only a few will buy drinks. The bar-owners want to make money and it's not in their interest if most of the seats are taken by people not spending money. However if you are on your own then I would like to think that you wouldn't encounter this.
JohnnyVegas
08-17-13, 04:15
I think Annies opens at 10 AM but may not have many girls at that time? I think a few daytime bars on Sukhumvit Soi 4 may open earlier, but not certain.
Funny term "downtown". I think this part is only a centre for tourists but not main city or main business district.
Can get outcall from various sources if you know who / what you want. I would be ringing some girl I know to make an arrangement.
No sure if many guys go looking for girls at 8AM.Thanks. I agree. I usually wake up with one in bed blowing me. Sort of like an alarm clock. Or if she's sleeping I'll snuggle up from behind and start working it until she wakes up. Anyway, looks like Annies at 11 am or so.
Downtown vs the airport. I guess I'm a city guy so pavement and traffic lights means downtown versus the highway. Or I must have "going down" on my brain! .
I think the bar owners got feedback from the girls about Indian behavior. Why does everyone put the blame on everyone but the girls. It's the girls who have to sex the Indian. LOL.
Ps. I don't blame the girls for avoiding certain kinds of men, and not only Indians. LOL.Ultimately with such an abundance of punters the girls can be choosy, not only in who they go with but the price as well. I often have girls long time for 2000 baht, the same girls will charge others 4000 baht for long time.
But many would rather have less money and enjoy the sex than more money and hate it.
With the boot on the other foot, if you had a cute young thing willing to pay you 2K for sex or an old grandma past 50 willing to pay you 4K. Who would you sleep with?
So the girls cannot be blamed, its all about supply and demand. In Thailand there is a massive supply of punters willing to pay, so girls can be choosy.
It's their choice and you have to respect it.
Thanks. I agree. I usually wake up with one in bed blowing me. Sort of like an alarm clock.I have been trying to find such an alarm clock all my life. LOL This has been precisely my fantasy of the perfect girl but never found her.
I was looking for a sex at Thailand but not the bar girls type looking for some real beauties.
Any help?
Really we should be in the general thread. I think you could be a bit more specific exactly what type of "guides" you talk about. If sex is your thing then read this forum. If nature is your thing, research the national parks of Thailand.
Years ago I read travel books but in modern day use the internet more. Of the books I read, Lonely Planet Guide to Thailand was one of the least impressive to me even though thick. Perhaps has been rewritten in recent years. It seemed to focus on mundane things like Hotels to stay, restaurants to eat, etc. Only useful stuff was usually where to go to get from one place to another, e. G. Bus, trains, etc. The most important travel info for me is details of all the attractions that places have to offer, whether related to nature, culture, history, arts, or to sexual escapades...
hi mates. i haven't been to bkk in ahile as i'm usually in pattaya but i will be arriving 6:00 am. by the time i get downtown to suk it will be around 8:00 am. any ideas for some morning action? i can only think of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or annies. both of which probably don't open until 11:00 am.
thanks!you could try your luck at the nana hotel parking lot or the sidewalk adjacent to it. i've seen a girl there as early as 8 am.
alternately there may be some street action on lower sukhumvit, between soi 3 and 5, or on soi 5 leading to foodland.
escort sites might arrange an appointment that early or even a meet up at the airport.
IndianVisit
08-17-13, 12:18
In 7 days your best option is to pick either Pattaya or Angeles. If you split your time between two cities, you'll just skim the surface of each and you'll also waste one of your precious days traveling.Thanks for your reply.
This will definitely help me my plan. Anyhow I cannot resist temptation to reply mr Streetwalker. I have been to various countries in gulf including Baharin and Iran. Most of places all SW welcomed me. At one massage centre in Dubai, a Thai massage lady did not agree anything extra and worked uncomfortably. Three Chinese workers and one Uzbek told me that Indians are no nonsense customers.
Forget the discussion.
In January around 12 th syrgies mentioned about lap dance in Soi Cowboy. Is it also possible in Pattaya or Angeles where you can pay and have some groping and kissing at bar without taking lady out. Not like Soi Cowboy bars of having blowjob at site
Thanks Lancelot again. I have gone through your reports and looks genuine. Similarly Gorgan.
CorporateMalaya
08-17-13, 12:20
This racist attitude has been created by various stories implanted by certain bars owners and hence Thai girl carry same notions. I stayed at LK Metro area but I was not sure that girls sitting in bar can be bar fined or not. I did not ask.
Probably I may go both places Pattaya and Angeles city. 3-3 days. Thanks for any assistance / guidance / opinions.I agree with Sir L, just thinking of the transfer time between Pattaya-BKK-Manila-Angeles, will drain you of all the juices. The Indian bias is definitely there in Pattaya and BKK and applicable whether you are alone or in a group. Even if you manage to get inside the girls may behave differently. But there are many go-go's which are welcoming. I don't fully agree that the bar owners have impanted stories. Rather it's the cumulative behavior of the some indian tourists which has led to this. I have witnessed trucks of IT's arriving into massage parlors where they are showered with VIP treatment. Looking at the numbers these could be well part of a tour package. On the other hand you can witness groups of Indian's in some go-go's dancing and removing their shirts or entering a traditional thai massage and asking for a sandwich massage. This type of behavior would not go down well with the Jap / Korean brigades who sit quietly, sip their colas and slip out thousands of bahts from the money purses hanging around their necks or the thai management. All this should not hinder you, Pattaya has some thing for everybody. If you stayed at LK Metro and didn't know that the girls can be bar fined or not, you need to read back at least all the reports of distinction, you will have more knowledge than you can handle.
FlyingVisitor
08-17-13, 13:21
Hallo to all of you,
Will be back to the "action" in about 5 weeks.
Is there anybody with news about my favourite place SOL?
Thanks in advance.
FV
SirMarjAlot
08-17-13, 13:29
bangkok handjobs.
flew into bangkok with thai airways from london heathrow for just over £600, but will pay extra for a direct flight. for low season the plane was full. arrive bangkok around 3pm friday afternoon, taxi to my hotel the admiral suites top of soi 22 agreed 500 baht with taxi driver. traffic not to bad for a friday afternoon into bangkok. check into admiral suites, nice room overlooking street life of soi 22. hotel has small swimming pool, gym, sauna on the top floor. nice restaurant attached to the hotel too parrot cafe, draught heineken 65b and lovely thai food.
first night back in bangkok after nearly 3 years and mostly spent down soi cowboy. soi cowboy as popular as ever with tourists passing through. the most good looking girl i saw down soi cowboy turns out to be a ladyboy! a mature barwoman and her young accomplish give me a a handjob in the moonshine joint. i return to soi 22 and have a 6 hands massage and handjob.
http://mongerplanet.com/2013/06/28/bangkok-handjobs/
nana plaza.
the next day in bangkok i'm shocked to find washington square has been demolished. the artist theme bars down soi 33 are disappearing too. i wander up and down the sukhumvit observing what has changed. tonight i am intending to enjoy the nana plaza. i head to soi 4 in the daytime. the nana plaza has had a facelift. some of the gogos are open in the daytime within the nana plaza but the girls dancing were old and fat. soi 4 still lively in the daytime, some tourists the worst for drink.
i check out annies massage, tell me very busy but i not like any of the women left in the fishbowl.
that night i start off in the queens park plaza and notice a handful of girls working in the bars there that look ****. motocycle driver drops me off at the nana plaza for 50 baht and i start my gogo crawl. i'm in the carnival gogo on the top floor, its pretty empty inside and the bull has lost both its horns now. next thing i have 3 girls sat with me and one is ****, another a coyote dancer only. i make my way to the mercury gogo and decide to barfine a dancer who was half japanese early 20s. we agreed 1500 baht short time, she was not happy with this though and wanted 2000 baht. could not be bothered to take her back to soi 22 so just hired a short time room in the nana costing 350 baht. so lady drink was 150 baht, barfine 600 baht. it all adds up.
good sex with her but still she wanted more money but i not give.
http://mongerplanet.com/2013/06/29/bangkok-nana-plaza/
posiedon soapy massage.
my last day and night in bangkok and want to try something different. i have never been down the ratchadaphisek road or ratchada before where all the classy soapy massage parlous exist, mostly popular with asian clients with money. i decided on poseidon. so take the mrt at the sukhumvit asoke junction and alight at sutthisan taking exit 4 and turning right with posiedon just down the road. was around 7pm when i arrived at posiedons supose to be one of the better times when most girls begin their shifts. posiedons has two floors with girls on. the third floor is where girls just sit about in the lounge, these are suppose to be model girls, with alot having worked in glamour magazines even thailand penthouse, they can set you back 5000 baht plus.
i was disappointed in what i saw. i have seen better looking girls working in sub soi beer bars. one trait they do have in common is light skin, thats what the asian guys like. i wander down to the 2nd floor and take a look at the girls in the fishbowl. papasan sits with you fishing for a tip. he tells me girls to left are 2700 and to the right 3000 baht for 2 hours. now apparently some of the soapies add a surcharge for foreigners and posiedon is suppose to be one of them. i like a girl to the right who keeps smiling at me and choose her. have to pay my 3000 baht at reception, tip papasan 100 baht and my girl meets me and leads me to one of the rooms in the posiedon.
she is pleasant enough, quite heavily tattooed though under the dress, tells me she is aged 22 but probably older. gives me a nice soapy bath, with bbbj and then sex on the bed, finally giving me massage.
i make my way back to soi cowboy and just enjoy a few gogos before heading back to my hotel. in the morning i have a flight to catch to jakarta, indonesia.
http://mongerplanet.com/2013/06/30/bangkok-soapy-massage/
JoyRider60
08-17-13, 14:32
I'm a bit of a newbie to mongering but in my short career have been a Cowboy fan, especially Baccara. Love the school girl outfits on level 2. My last visit to Bangkok went to Bada Bing at Patpong for the first time and must say was one of my best mongering experiences to date. To start with there was an amazing batch of gogo dancers going at it. I caught the eye of a real looker and bought her a drink afterwards, asked her to go out for a spin with me, which is when I got introduced to the concept of coyotes. I don't however see it as time or money wasted. The whole pre fuck buildup of chatting up sexy women is important in setting the mood and feeling good and happy when you finally nail the bird. So anyway I quickly shifted attention to batch 2 who were available for ST / LT. They were disappointing after the coyotes but identified a particularly good looking one. Told mamasan to send her over after their number and she came with a girlfriend. Bought a few rounds of drinks and took one for an ST to the hotel next door. She was so natural and genuinely turned on, cumming noisily. For me seemingly girl enjoying her session and not doing a scripted act is the ultimate turn on. The name is Nam. Would love to hear if anyone else has been with her. Drinks set me back 1200, bar fine 600, ST 2000, and hotel 600. Expensive when added up, but well worth it.
Dasisextra
08-17-13, 16:49
Just checked in to hotel in Bangkok, first visit in I think nearly 7 years, here for the next 4 nights, then plan on hitting Pattaya before coming back to Bangkok. Feel free to PM if anyone's around to meet up for a drink.
AssLover945
08-17-13, 18:06
Hallo to all of you,
Will be back to the "action" in about 5 weeks.
Is there anybody with news about my favourite place SOL?
Thanks in advance.
FVStill going strong, still sleazy as ever and going rate is 400 Bahts for barfine takeout (got to be the cheapest in town)
Sucking is still the best in town, very good place for a quickie, as iut has always been known for.
Enjoy dude
Streetwalker7
08-17-13, 18:24
But many would rather have less money and enjoy the sex than more money and hate it.
With the boot on the other foot, if you had a cute young thing willing to pay you 2K for sex or an old grandma past 50 willing to pay you 4K. Who would you sleep with?Really now- are the girls really enjoying the sex? The top ones are just machines. This past week has been wild at the Rainbows. But its the same old same old-the same girls are getting barfined time after time. A hot one cums back from a barfine, she goes on stage and she hooks a customer very fast.
While the avg to less than avg. Ones just sit around just like customers observing the happenings around them. When you see it everyday like I do you feel bad for bioth types of girls. The ones that make no money. An the the ones that make money but at what physical. And emotional cost.
2 and a half months I declare the Baccara girls just plain unfriendly. LOL.
If I were a prostitute I'd take the old ladies 4k. You need to realize they in it for the money not the orgasms.
Another real life example of why bar owners and girls like Asians. Have you ever seen an Asian passed out drunk on the floor in NEP? I saw a white hooligan one today, looked like a baby sleeping. LOL.
Today went to have a look in Baccara again but this time around 10PM. Expected to see a greatly improved line-up over the 1:30AM lot an earlier day. Actually was same girl as last time I thought had a good face No. 175 but big silicones. The other one I like was involved in a sexy dance show and one of the very few in the show with natural tits. I have been with her 3 or 4 times in the past. That was it, really. One or two other acceptable girls. I don't like the very fake looks of the large majority. Some of them don't even look Thai. I find Dollhouse has some prettier girls. I commented to Yin Yang, with me, that No. 225 was so adjusted in the face that she looked like a ladyboy. To my taste, one of the worst. As soon as she got off the podium though, was called over by some Japanese customers. They obviously thought she was great, I guess.
Earlier in the day went to Utopia soapy and great session with one of my regulars. These days has implants but they are a not too exaggerated job. So acceptable. Nice GFE. Spotted some other extreme cuties on the way out and noted the numbers for a future occasion. Utopia is expensive for Farangs but they do have a few girls of superior looks in amongst all the fake noses. Recommended for Asian guys.
Was around 7pm when I arrived at Posiedons supose to be one of the better times when most girls begin their shifts. Posiedons has two floors with girls on. The third floor is where girls just sit about in the lounge, these are suppose to be model girls, with alot having worked in glamour magazines even Thailand Penthouse, they can set you back 5000 baht plus.
I was disappointed in what I saw. I have seen better looking girls working in sub soi beer bars. One trait they do have in common is light skin, thats what the asian guys like. I wander down to the 2nd floor and take a look at the girls in the fishbowl. Papasan sits with you fishing for a tip. He tells me girls to left are 2700 and to the right 3000 baht for 2 hours. Now apparently some of the Soapies add a surcharge for foreigners and Posiedon is suppose to be one of them. I like a girl to the right who keeps smiling at me and choose her. Have to pay my 3000 baht at reception, tip papasan 100 baht and my girl meets me and leads me to one of the rooms in the Posiedon.
She is pleasant enough, quite heavily tattooed though under the dress, tells me she is aged 22 but probably older.Yes the so called models on Poseidon 3rd floor are not that stunning. Yes light skin, young, good bodies, no baby stretch marks, but I left out the face part. Unfortunately that is the problem. Most are quite plain faced. I look at the face before the body, so most are ruled out immediately.
I think Amsterdam and Utopia has some much better lookers, however its still a lowish percentage of the total. Not so many stunning girls are forced to work in Soapies, bars, or MPs, unless that is what they really want.
The advantage with choosing a girl at a nude bar or virtually nude, is that there are no surprises when the cloths come off.
SirMarjAlot
08-17-13, 21:21
Yes the so called models on Poseidon 3rd floor are not that stunning. Yes light skin, young, good bodies, no baby stretch marks, but I left out the face part. Unfortunately that is the problem. Most are quite plain faced. I look at the face before the body, so most are ruled out immediately.
I think Amsterdam and Utopia has some much better lookers, however its still a lowish percentage of the total. Not so many stunning girls are forced to work in Soapies, bars, or MPs, unless that is what they really want.
The advantage with choosing a girl at a nude bar or virtually nude, is that there are no surprises when the cloths come off.Yes thats what I like about the Gogos. 'no surprises'. Although there is still plenty of girls to choose from in the Gogos, during my short stay and compared to previous visits over the last 10 years or so, I would say the quality is on the decline.
I was hard pushed to find a girl that really stood out. It always happened on the first night in Bangkok on past visits.
I would definitely return to Soapy land and try some of the other establishments. Amsterdam has popped up a few times. If I was there now I think I would try Nataree.
This is a good blog on the Bangkok soapy massage scene.
http://guestfriendlyhotelsinthailand.********.co.uk/2012/07/my-5-favorite-bangkok-soapy-massage.html
Dasisextra
08-17-13, 21:56
Flew into Bangkok with Thai Airways from London Heathrow for just over £600, but will pay extra for a direct flight. For low season the plane was full. Arrive Bangkok around 3pm Friday afternoon, taxi to my hotel the Admiral suites top of soi 22 agreed 500 baht with taxi driver. Traffic not to bad for a Friday afternoon into Bangkok. Check into Admiral suites, nice room overlooking street life of soi 22.Could I please ask why oh why would anyone agree a fixed fare from the airport with a taxi driver, you know you are getting ripped off. I landed at 20.30 Saturday night, was in a Taxi just after 21.00. Heading to Soi 13, I paid the two tolls total 75 baht, the meter showed 215 when we reached the hotel, plus 50 for the airport surcharge, = 265 baht, I gave the drive 300 so after paying the tolls, total cost was 375 baht. Just my opinion.
Tony Hoeprano
08-17-13, 22:01
This takes us to last night. Another night, another girl. This one admittedly only average at best but I have a weakness for overbites and she had one that was an orthodontist's nightmare. Same same. Standing lap dance and so on. Gets me to buy drinks for her three friends as well as herself. Ok why not. 3am and I ask her if she wants to come back with me. Ok. But need money. How much. 3,000 baht. Bargain her down to 2, 500 which is more than her looks deserve. In truth a 1500 baht girl. But it was 3am and I did not have the energy to start over again. So I agree and say let's go. No she replies, I want to listen to the music some more and by the way my friends all need a refill. At this point I retreat to the men's room to think this over. Its 3am, I am quite horny but this has every bad sign there is hung on this one. So I look thru my phone for a long sms and take it to her, and she has moved near the door because I think she suspected I was going to make a break for it, and show her the sms and tell her that my friend is very sick and has gone to the hospital and I need to go see him. My last look at her was one with her mouth agape looking to catch a fly.
So I am just curious to know from the guys who have been to Climax lately what girls have been asking them. 2,000 for st is fair but this 3, 000 and 5, 000 baht business is just silly or is that where the late night disco girls are these days?There's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. I understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that. She was treating you like the turd I just flushed down the toilet before writing this, no need to put these gals on a pedestal, just say goodbye or better yet just leave without saying anything, you owe them no apology. As far as a girl asking for 5, 000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you. Often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
BTW- Insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 AM
Tony Hoeprano
08-17-13, 22:04
With the boot on the other foot, if you had a cute young thing willing to pay you 2K for sex or an old grandma past 50 willing to pay you 4K. Who would you sleep with?I won't mention any names, but looking at the photo gallery, I'd surmise some would opt for the granny 5555
There's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. I understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that. She was treating you like the turd I just flushed down the toilet before writing this, no need to put these gals on a pedestal, just say goodbye or better yet just leave without saying anything, you owe them no apology. As far as a girl asking for 5, 000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you. Often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
BTW- Insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 AMTH is quite right. You are treated as an ATM and should have said 'we walk out now together or I leave on my own- now.' You are not building a life long relationship but paying for an hour's f*ck*ng with a WG. I would have just left with a smile at the thought of the money I was saving.
Streetwalker7
08-18-13, 02:52
Thanks for your reply.
This will definitely help me my plan. Anyhow I cannot resist temptation to reply mr Streetwalker. I have been to various countries in gulf including Baharin and Iran. Most of places all SW welcomed me. At one massage centre in Dubai, a Thai massage lady did not agree anything extra and worked uncomfortably. Three Chinese workers and one Uzbek told me that Indians are no nonsense customers.
Forget the discussion.
In January around 12 th syrgies mentioned about lap dance in Soi Cowboy. Is it also possible in Pattaya or Angeles where you can pay and have some groping and kissing at bar without taking lady out. Not like Soi Cowboy bars of having blowjob at site
Thanks Lancelot again. I have gone through your reports and looks genuine. Similarly Gorgan.I don't think one who is trying to convince Thai girls to service Indians should use Dubai and Iran as examples. LOL.
Streetwalker7
08-18-13, 02:55
Yes the so called models on Poseidon 3rd floor are not that stunning. Yes light skin, young, good bodies, no baby stretch marks, but I left out the face part. Unfortunately that is the problem. Most are quite plain faced. I look at the face before the body, so most are ruled out immediately.
I think Amsterdam and Utopia has some much better lookers, however its still a lowish percentage of the total. Not so many stunning girls are forced to work in Soapies, bars, or MPs, unless that is what they really want.
The advantage with choosing a girl at a nude bar or virtually nude, is that there are no surprises when the cloths come off.The problem with nude bars is the face. Good faces just don't work nude bars.
Streetwalker7
08-18-13, 03:03
Often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
BTW- Insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 AMIf they don't like you they, don't like you. Money to them doesn't matter. I've experienced this.
The girls do have their limits. LOL.
Today went to have a look in Baccara again but this time around 10PM. Expected to see a greatly improved line-up over the 1:30AM lot an earlier day. Actually was same girl as last time I thought had a good face No. 175 but big silicones. The other one I like was involved in a sexy dance show and one of the very few in the show with natural tits. I have been with her 3 or 4 times in the past. That was it, really. One or two other acceptable girls. I don't like the very fake looks of the large majority. Some of them don't even look Thai. I find Dollhouse has some prettier girls. I commented to Yin Yang, with me, that No. 225 was so adjusted in the face that she looked like a ladyboy. To my taste, one of the worst. As soon as she got off the podium though, was called over by some Japanese customers. They obviously thought she was great, I guess.I also noticed that for some reason, plastic surgery seems to wipe out almost any facial expression. Most girls at Baccara look deadpan on the stage.
Found the girls at SW much more entertaining even though many are not as "perfect". My barfine Pui definitely was cute, very slim body, maybe a little inexperienced. But that, strangely enough, only shows in bed while she seemed to have no problem at all strutting around nakedly in the bar. Uninhibited in public but shy in private, LOL.
I also noticed that for some reason, plastic surgery seems to wipe out almost any facial expression. Most girls at Baccara look deadpan on the stage.
Found the girls at SW much more entertaining even though many are not as "perfect". My barfine Pui definitely was cute, very slim body, maybe a little inexperienced. But that, strangely enough, only shows in bed while she seemed to have no problem at all strutting around nakedly in the bar. Uninhibited in public but shy in private, LOL.I thought she was a little shyer than my talkative girls (with a few drinks) in the bar LOL.
If girls are ugly old fatty and expensive, what's the point of mongering all the way to Thailand?
there's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. i understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that. she was treating you like the turd i just flushed down the toilet before writing this, no need to put these gals on a pedestal, just say goodbye or better yet just leave without saying anything, you owe them no apology. as far as a girl asking for 5, 000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you. often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
btw- insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 ami am pretty sure that after giving me a standing lap dance for nearly an hour that she wanted to go with me, that can't be great for her back poor thing. but for the right price. i just think she thought i was easy pickings. as a friend told me after relaying my tale to him. many guys who are still at climax at 4am are probably fairy desperate to get laid by that time and partly inebriated and willing to say yes to anything. i hadn't had much to drink though and still was able to say no.
i'll give insanity another go but when i say no one was there at midnight i mean no one. and i jumped over to climax 10 minutes later and it was already going at full speed.
Mr Enternational
08-18-13, 11:23
There's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. I understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that.Why do people in this game feel the need to lie to each other? I was discussing that with one of my regulars the other day. She said that everybody lies, the men and the women. I said well there is no reason for us to lie to each other. When I met you and asked what you do your exact words were that you sell your body. I said great because I would like to buy. And there started a wonderful relationship. I know that you go with men and you have definitely seen me with other women.
It's like when people browse a store then tell the shop keeper that they will come back when they have no intentions of coming back. In the case of the store or the girl, why not just say a simple thank you and go about your way instead of lying?
As far as a girl asking for 5,000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you.You are right about that one TH. Last week me, my father, and my brother were at a disco. There was a smoking hot chick at the table next to ours and I knew a couple of her friends. I called one of the girls that I knew over and told them that I wanted to get with the girl. She told me that the girl liked my brother, but one of the other girls at the table liked me. I said fuck that. Tell her that I want her. She went to talk to the girl and came back over and said she will go with you for 2000. I said to tell her no thank you and good luck. She ended up going with my brother for the usual 1000.
2 and a half months i declare the baccara girls just plain unfriendly. lol.
if i were a prostitute i'd take the old ladies 4k. you need to realize they in it for the money not the orgasms.last night i was sitting with 2 beer bar girls on soi 4, one i know and the other is her buddy. we covered a lot of topics from love to orgasms. they don't believe in either. i asked them when was the last time they had an orgasm from a customer. they look at me like i was stone stupid."never. you crazy. we are not there for orgasm, we are there for money. when money is in my hand i feel very happy. only then."
i never have gotten the love for baccara from so many. what a money machine. bring in the suckers, churn them out. went 3 nights ago with a friend and i thought yes this is why i hate the place. packed with customers glass eyed watching masses of girls on the stage on the first floor and the second floor is just weird. the school girls are ok but show nothing of interest while the next group has enough silicone between them to go wholesale. terrible jobs, like tor****es ready for firing. they must all go to the same doctor and he should be drummed out of the business. a lot of girls but very little quality. baccara in pattaya is soooo much better.
Streetwalker7
08-18-13, 12:16
last night i was sitting with 2 beer bar girls on soi 4, one i know and the other is her buddy. we covered a lot of topics from love to orgasms. they don't believe in either. i asked them when was the last time they had an orgasm from a customer. they look at me like i was stone stupid."never. you crazy. we are not there for orgasm, we are there for money. when money is in my hand i feel very happy. only then."
i never have gotten the love for baccara from so many. what a money machine. bring in the suckers, churn them out. went 3 nights ago with a friend and i thought yes this is why i hate the place. packed with customers glass eyed watching masses of girls on the stage on the first floor and the second floor is just weird. the school girls are ok but show nothing of interest while the next group has enough silicone between them to go wholesale. terrible jobs, like tor****es ready for firing. they must all go to the same doctor and he should be drummed out of the business. a lot of girls but very little quality. baccara in pattaya is soooo much better.i feel validate by those 2 bb girls. thanks. i know i'm thinking straight and others are not. lol.
referencing my r4 favorite again who has been away for 5 weeks, btw i pray to whomever one prays to that she isn't getting silicone. omg if she did. two of her closet co-workers got silicone and as per normal now both look like freaks. one i can give her a pass as she isn't heavily barfined. the other one is heavily barfined-maybe its peer pressure.
anyway.
1. miss r4 looks most spirited at the end of our sessions when its time for me to pay. lol.
2. i asked her what she thinks of when a guy is doing her snoop dog style- she says her mind is blank. lol.
3. i asked her if it was fun having sex with a 75 year old man. i think its cute. lol. she say while i may chuckle its no fun for her.
4. i'm pretty sure the main reason my fav goes with me is i give her money. lol. w / o the baht i doubt she would let me feel her nipples in the bar.
i think all these guys who are pleasuring these girls left and right maybe doing so only in their own minds. lol. i really would like to hear more of what the girls say. even about me. i can take it. i know i'm just a customer!
ps i criticize baccara a lot but i still enjoy it. good place to people watch.
i'm pretty sure the main reason my fav goes with me is i give her money. lol.
Streetwalker7
08-18-13, 12:26
To take it one step further, the reason guys have a hard time finding good chemistry is that girls are not looking for that. They see us as a one-shot deal and move on. Too much time and energy to try and click with a guy you probably won't ever see again.
Which I think for them is the right way to go!
the school girls are ok but show nothing of interest while the next group has enough silicone between them to go wholesale. terrible jobs, like tor****es ready for firing. they must all go to the same doctor and he should be drummed out of the business. a lot of girls but very little quality. baccara in pattaya is soooo much better.personally the school girls are doing nothing much for me. too much flab for my taste and plain faces. i like bambi types or at least gazelles. i agree that the plastic surgery is appalling but the japanese are going for these looks. the more extreme the surgery look, the quicker the girl got picked. so the positive reinforcement is real high.
i see a lot of farangs are saying they like baccara too. i don't get it. very limited girls look naturally nice.
i would much rather be in a rainbow bar than in baccara, to find hot girls to my taste. i really think the girls standard in baccara has been getting worse over time. 2 years ago and i could find more pretty girls there.
apparently the latest fashion for rich is to go get plastic surgery in korea to get the new korean look.
i think crazy house has possibilities for the future. similar upstairs with see-through floor and downstairs like baccara but girls are looking more natural and more raunchy (rather than fidgeting like bored out of their brains). i could see crazy house really taking off before long. its doing quite okay already.
I have got 7 days leave. In late September.I'll be in Pattaya during the last week of Sept. I usually visit BKK and Pattaya but this time planned a entire week in Pattaya.
Get your PM activated, and we could catch up for a beer some evening around a Soi 6 bar!
Regards,
A
Wolvenvacht
08-18-13, 14:16
There's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. I understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that.This is all part of the game. Take away all these "niceties" and life gets ugly.
Personally the school girls are doing nothing much for me. Too much flab for my taste and plain faces. I like bambi types or at least gazelles. I agree that the plastic surgery is appalling but the Japanese are going for these looks. The more extreme the surgery look, the quicker the girl got picked. So the positive reinforcement is real high.
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I think Crazy House has possibilities for the future. Similar upstairs with see-through floor and downstairs like Baccara but girls are looking more natural and more raunchy (rather than fidgeting like bored out of their brains). I could see Crazy House really taking off before long. Its doing quite okay already.The Japanese like the fake tit syndrome? I would never have thought that. I always think of that as more a Farang thing since we have so much of that back home in the strip clubs.
I have been to Crazy House twice now and after doing a bit of a jaunt thru many of the non-Arab bars in Soi Cowboy last night I think it's easily the most fun and probably has the best looking girls. That doesn't mean they are all fab. Most are not but the other night they had some 12 of them on stage and I would gladly have gone with 6 of them. For me that is a high pct. But the first time I went there were hardly any customers and last time it was packed so the word is getting out. In this video from Billboard in Nana the little well proportioned girl in black is now dancing at CH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCLVga8fOro
In this video from Billboard in Nana the little well proportioned girl in black is now dancing at CH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCLVga8fOroLooks like fake tits in this video. I saw a girl at Crazy House with similar dance style but I think wasn't the same girl, as tits looked smaller. In your video I like the girl dancing slower more sexy with the light leopard skin bra (not the one with straight cut fringe either) as she looks more exotic.
I only saw about 2 or 3 girls I liked at Crazy House so I guess I am just more fussy.
Today went back to Dollhouse looking for the bambi girl Naam (ex of Billboard). Ni told me that Naam has not been back to work since I took her for ST, and that her friends report she is sick. So naturally, I am copping the blame for this. Like what did I do to the poor girl? The girl Naam claimed to have had two orgasms and was spent. Even if was true, that could not put her out of action for days LOL. No more than 1 hour of sex play of various types and positions, but I don't go at it hard at all. When we finished, she said she would be going dancing next. Probably meeting some other guy who didn't want to pay the BF. Some Thai girls are telling that 20 to 30 mins of sex should really be the limit though. In my case its rare I finish within 30 mins, unless getting BBBJ only. Ni has been with me several times including LT, so knows my style well, but has never avoided going with me so must think I am safe enough LOL.
Could I please ask why oh why would anyone agree a fixed fare from the airport with a taxi driver, you know you are getting ripped off. .Because some are getting revenues by posting links to pages full of links to pay websites. LOL
Streetwalker7
08-19-13, 03:36
Some Thai girls are telling that 20 to 30 mins of sex should really be the limit though.Can't disagree with this. And of the minutes I doubt many want all of the time being used having intercourse.
Slowly but surely the real Iifo is coming out. No girl wants a 2 hour short-time. LOL. The good doctor and Mr Syz being the exceptions.
These girl are out for money- they could care less if you pleasure them or not.
If they don't like you they, don't like you. Money to them doesn't matter. I've experienced this.
The girls do have their limits. LOL.Beautiful Harold. First you say the girls are only interested in the money then a couple of days later you post that money doesn't matter to them? So which one is it?
Regards,
BJ
Can't disagree with this. And of the minutes I doubt many want all of the time being used having intercourse.
Slowly but surely the real Iifo is coming out. No girl wants a 2 hour short-time. LOL. The good doctor and Mr Syz being the exceptions.I did say various activities. That includes long DATY and BBBJ. 69, etc. Not just fucking only. I do have sympathy on girls and often take the tag team of 2 girls (ocassionally even 3) from the bar when I want a 2 hour ST.
Tulip, Mango, SW, etc. Girls were always expected to have the stamina to go nearly the whole session of 90 mins, or 2 hours with some resting. LOL
Today went back to Dollhouse looking for the bambi girl Naam (ex of Billboard). Ni told me that Naam has not been back to work since I took her for ST, and that her friends report she is sick. So naturally, I am copping the blame for this. Like what did I do to the poor girl? The girl Naam claimed to have had two orgasms and was spent. Even if was true, that could not put her out of action for days LOL. No more than 1 hour of sex play of various types and positions, but I don't go at it hard at all. When we finished, she said she would be going dancing next. Probably meeting some other guy who didn't want to pay the BF. Some Thai girls are telling that 20 to 30 mins of sex should really be the limit though. In my case its rare I finish within 30 mins, unless getting BBBJ only. Ni has been with me several times including LT, so knows my style well, but has never avoided going with me so must think I am safe enough LOL.Come to Singapore & you might get only 2 or 3 minutes.
If you're not being allowed 2 to 3 hours in Bangkok, you need to find some better girls.
Sir Lancelot
08-19-13, 13:53
If girls are ugly old fatty and expensive, what's the point of mongering all the way to Thailand?A good question. It seems some people on this forum, well, one person mainly, just moan continually about the lack of quality girls, their attitudes, prices (etc) and yet they keep going back for more. They are the mongering equivalent of a fly who can't escape from a window and keeps flying in to the glass. Bang, ouch, bang, ouch, bang, ouch. They keep making the same mistake over and over but don't have sufficient brain cells to solve the problem. They could go to Philippines where girls give better service for far cheaper prices but no. They could try Phnom Penh or go to Indonesia, one of the most under-rated (and cheapest) pay-for-play destinations in the world but no. They could even venture out beyond Bangkok, to Pattaya or Chiang Mai perhaps but no, they just keep going back to a place they can only ever find negatives about.
To any newcomer who might be reading, Thailand is a spectacular place to visit with many, many pretty girls. I guarantee that any first-timer will feel like a kid in a toy-shop when they step on to Soi Cowboy for the first time, or walk around Nana Plaza. Cheaper prices can be found if you're willing to step beyond the same gogo bars every night and good service can be found too, if you have good game and treat the girls well, not like a piece of meat. The fact that Streetwalker / Harold encounters poor service so often and those few girls that do go with him, do a runner at the first opportunity, says more about him than it does about the girls.
Streetwalker7
08-19-13, 18:18
Are you insinuating many a prostitute are in it for reasons other than money. You should know better than I. You hire prostitutes. Do they tell you in interviews they want real men to teach them about sex- not thai boys. LOL. Or that they want to learn about std's up close and personal. LOL.
If a girl doesn't like you she doesn't like you. Just because a girl declines customers doesn't mean she isn't after money. I've seen many guys get blown off. I sure if they offered 20% over fair price the girl would still decline. Theres one girl at Rainbow 2 that just doesn't like me. She stop accepting my money- it happens. Not all people like all other people.
To be fair this girl blows off more customers than any other I've seen. I look at the guys and I'm saying to myself what is she seeing that I don't. LOL. You just don't get a lot of HOOLIGANS at Rainbow2.
Just because a girl declines customers doesn't mean money isn't number 1.
Are you insinuating many a prostitute are in it for reasons other than money. You should know better than I. You hire prostitutes. Do they tell you in interviews they want real men to teach them about sex- not thai boys. LOL. Or that they want to learn about std's up close and personal. LOL.
If a girl doesn't like you she doesn't like you. Just because a girl declines customers doesn't mean she isn't after money. I've seen many guys get blown off. I sure if they offered 20% over fair price the girl would still decline. Theres one girl at Rainbow 2 that just doesn't like me. She stop accepting my money- it happens. Not all people like all other people.
To be fair this girl blows off more customers than any other I've seen. I look at the guys and I'm saying to myself what is she seeing that I don't. LOL. You just don't get a lot of HOOLIGANS at Rainbow2.
Just because a girl declines customers doesn't mean money isn't number 1.I totally agree. At Thermae there are a lot of girls who decline farang. It is useless offering more than the standart rate. They don't even look at a farang standing a meter in front of them.
HectorSanchez
08-20-13, 00:49
I need some advice. I monger mostly in mexico and latin america. I live in united states. I am an indian. I am 30 years old.
It will be my first trip to Bangkok and I read about possible racism in Bangkok over dark skinned fellas. I understand that ultimately money and good attitude wins but I would like to know what are some bars that I should possibly avoid and the ones that are recommended? Somebody mentioned to avoid rainbow.
I have no problem with the money that I will be spending but I do not want to be looked down upon for any reason. I am just trying to take precautions.
Senior mongers in Thailand, please suggest.
Thanks
Return to Crazy House. Lineup was even better than Sunday. Arrived at 11PM. Many good lookers. This place is already significantly better than Baccara. Faces better, bodies better. Not so much fake stuff. Okay Some mammoth enhanced tits. Many very nice naturals. Completely nude girls with shaven pussy dancing quite raunchy. Some of the pussy is looking real fine. I fancied very pretty No. 91 (not a totally nude one). Problem was she was right near bickering over the price with a younger guy with beard. He would not go high enough and she would not go low enough. In the end they kept trying and not sure if the deal finally got done.
I then decided I fancied another girl. A shy type. Cute face in an Isaan way. Not too dark despite from Buriram. Turned out she was new and just only her 5th day. Had never been with Farang and actually done it. Has a few things to learn yet of course. I might just train her up. Took a LT with her.
Ate Phat Thai on the 4th floor restaurant. Air con was a bit cold on 4th.
This place has a standard. There are no really plain or ugly girls, like there are at Baccara. The girls with fatter legs seemed to be relegated to dancing upstairs. Downstairs had almost all acceptable bodies. There was a Ladyboy or two present who may have been waitresses (not dancing as far as I know). I did not pay attention to them. BF was 700. Place was popular with both Farangs and Japanese. Naked girls wandering round the bar at times or giving lap dances.
At Suzi Wong there are a lot of girl with no good bodies and just a few nice bodies. Crazy House has a high percentage of good bodies and good faces. This makes this place a cut above the other bars. Recently I have been liking Dollhouse but CH has better lineup overall. Wasn't pestered that much by the staff either.
The problem with this place is going to be just being packed out and not enough space, very soon. Don't know how they recruited the girls but they have done darn well.
If a girl doesn't like you she doesn't like you. Just because a girl declines customers doesn't mean she isn't after money. I've seen many guys get blown off. I sure if they offered 20% over fair price the girl would still decline.Bangkok has many hookers that will not go with just anybody. They have standards. They want a nice customer that is not going to cheat them. They asses the customer. I know one girl who won't go with black guys. She said that first time sat with a black guy, the guy pinched her tits painfully and so she has struck black guys off the list. Somewhat unfair I am sure. Sure some girls only go with SE Asian customers.
Some girls are only border-line hookers, in that they do not go with guys often, only when they really like the guy a lot. Many of these do not need to make several thousand baht per day.
It will be my first trip to Bangkok and I read about possible racism in Bangkok over dark skinned fellas.If you present well (see below) , smell good, smile broadly, and have a wad of thousand baht notes in your pocket, you will be fine.
Present Well
1. Shower before you go out.
2. Take care of that body stank. If you need a prescription strength antiperspirant, man up and buy it because you will sweat in BKK, guaranteed. Nothing like the stench of old BO to turn girls and their touts off.
3. Dress well. This does not mean jeans and a clean t-shirt. A collared shirt is preferred, and tuck it in. In the States, that is a sign of a nerd, but in BKK, it is the sign of someone with manners. In a pinch, a polo style shirt will do, but make sure it fits well and is not stretched. Jeans are ok, if they are coupled with a quality shirt. The girls often like linen, FYI.
4. Wear good shoes. No flip flops, berkenstocks, or old sneakers. This does not necessarily mean Salvatore Ferragamo or Berluti, but something classy, clean, and not worn or torn. Believe it or not, I have had girls in gogo bars look at my shoes.
5. Get a decent haircut. I can't tell you how many Indians I have seen with that old-style haircut: part on the right, straight cut across the front and back, no frills. Get a decent haircut, or else you are signaling low-class Indian. No offense to anyone with this haircut, but it is a big tell.
6. Smile a lot. If someone decides to get assholish with you, let it go and move on to the next bar. Personally, I have never once had any kind of problem related to my skin color (dark skinned, not Indian myself, but often mistaken for one). But a good attitude goes a long way.
Forgive me if it was presumptuous of me to assume that you do not already do all of this, but my point is this: if you do these things, you can overcome any perceived racism in BKK. As I say, I have never been denied entrance to a bar, ever, so I don't worry about such things. What I am concerned about is that many girls have had bad experiences with brown-skinned people in the past, and they project those experiences onto me. Kind of like Syzygies' nipple twister story.
Oh, and don't believe it when people tell you girls in BKK are ugly or too expensive. This is a wonderful place to monger.
Uncle Volodya
08-20-13, 02:37
Hey Kumbu!
Please honor us soon with the next episode in your 2013 BKK tour.
It looks like only you can save us from these tedious discussions about the psychology of bargirls.
And stay horny my friend...
Uncle-V
Hey Kumbu!
Please honor us soon with the next episode in your 2013 BKK tour.
It looks like only you can save us from these tedious discussions about the psychology of bargirls.
And stay horny my friend.
Uncle-VHah! Uncle V, I have a special episode on its way. Sorry for the delay: real life finds a way to impede pleasure these days.
Beautiful Harold. First you say the girls are only interested in the money then a couple of days later you post that money doesn't matter to them? So which one is it?
Regards,
BJHis random thoughts.
It seems it depends on the girl. Surprise! Some hardened hookers are just in it for money, obviously, and would never dream of allowing themselves to enjoy. Others are needing the money badly, but can still enjoy sex, when guy is good. Others are very fussy and happy not take a guy at all, but wait for one they really fancy, and of course can enjoy it.
A guy that says working girls never enjoy, really means that they never enjoy it with him. He is not going about it in a way that appeals to them or is just treating them like a hole, or is only choosing the hardened types of girls or Porn-stars that have far too many customers.
Last night I gave a girl her first taste of Farang dick. Only had a Thai BF before. She really liked the DATY first and was then certainly in the mood for the sex. I was her first fuck as a working girl, and her Thai boyfriend disappeared some months ago. She was a very honest type of girl so I believe what she told me. She hopes to see me again tonight LOL. Needs the money badly too.
This one's for you, Uncle V.
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I awoke on Tuesday morning having slept more than any other night in the last 12: a full 6. 5 hours of sleep. I felt downright fetal in comparison to the last two weeks. The previous night had been a wash out. I had walked the streets of BKK in a futile attempt to find something special, and ended up with handfuls of nothing and the insipid taste of phantoms in my mouth. I awoke with the sound of a clock in my head, like a bomb about to go off, except this bomb was my impending departure from this wonderland that is BKK. Got to get cranking today, time is a tickin'.
I had two full days and nights left ahead of me. The days were scheduled to be full of work, and the nights needed to make up for that lost time. As a result of my bombed Monday night, I felt rested, and my pocket book was a little heavier (not finding anyone for the night meant I still had a couple of extra thousand baht to my name). So with the extra cash in my pocket and the pep in my step, things were looking good.
I dashed off to work, flirted with the office girls all day, and worked my tiny tush as hard as I could. And to my surprise and delight, we ended work a full hour earlier than scheduled. I boarded the skytrain at 4pm on my way back to the hotel, and decided to go straight to Mango. I needed a little bit of relaxation before the rigors of the evening.
I arrived at around 4:30, and a bunch of girls were outside eating. When I walked in, they all packed up and came inside, and there must have been 20 girls in that room at that point. Was this a shift change? Perhaps. I spied my little girl from the previous night, the no-name girl who sparked such a furor. I quickly scanned the mass of massage girl meat on display, and quickly opted for the same girl from the previous time. For some reason, the girls at Mango seemed to have way too much blush on their faces, it made them seem cheap and hussy-like. In fact, even my girl had this same over-done face make-up, and Kumbu no likey. But that is a minor quibble: so long as her ass came with all that blush, I am good to go.
I asked for her by name, and all the other girls rang out her name in a chorus, as if she were a superstar for being asked for by name. This time I chose just the one hour option, since I needed to get back to the hotel and freshen up for the exertions that would follow.
She smiled at me, remembered my name, and giggled as we walked up the stairs. We got into the room and she gave me a big embrace and a kiss on the lips, and said she was happy I came back and remembered her. How could I forget? I mean, this was the girl with whom I invented the new move, forever referred to as The Kumbu. I also spent an hour and a half worshiping her legs, buns and asshole. I sexed her for that period of time without even so much as touching her mouth or pussy with little Kumbu. It was very an interesting experience which was sure to bring this dog back for more.
So we showered together, nothing special, just some rigorous scrubbing and crevice cleansing. We got out and we lay out on the bed for a few moments, touching and caressing each other. She was pushing for some DFK, but I resisted, and she backed off promptly, without insult or injury. I then took charge and gently turned her onto her back, kissing her neck, her shoulders, and down to her breasts. I kissed the breasts, which were soft, clearly the breasts of someone in her early thirties. She responded with some louder-then-expected moans, which I did not particularly appreciate. But this spurred me on to move down her belly and to the beauty that lay beneath.
As expected, she smelled delicious and clean. I suppose she douched in the shower, and there was no stank to speak of. I got down slowly into her pubic hair, kissing it ever so slightly. I quickly noticed that she was short-cropped, which is my personal least favorite hair-do for the downstairs. It looks great, but talk about scruff burn: it hurts more than hell itself. I've ripped my lips up over such thorny cages before, so I am wary of such a prickly yet enticing treat. Her Bush was indeed thorny, and after just a few minutes of giving her a memorable lip-lashing, my lips were getting raw. But I persisted.
I worked her clit, which was openly visible, and her lips, which were tight and smallish, for a good 10 minutes. During this time she was moaning louder than I remember her doing last week, and it began annoying me. I mentioned this before, but I hate the fake moaning, it really puts me off. She also did this little jerky hip thrust, like all of a sudden she would jut her hip out a few inches and inhale quickly, as if she was suddenly being hit by a taser gun. This struck me as particularly fake, and it too was annoying me. After 10 minutes, I began pulling up, but she grabbed the top of my head and jammed it back in. I mean, she physically forced my head back in: I felt a little like a dildo being stuck back into her pussy.
Ok then. I guess she was enjoying this. So I persisted, and her moaning started to get louder and louder. I started to think that maybe, just maybe, this was how she actually reacts to sexual stimulation. Maybe she is naturally a groaner, and this is not really as fake as it seems. Well, hold your horses old Kumbu, let's not get ahead of ourselves here, patting ourselves on the back for no real reason. She is a WG after all, this is what she does for a living. I kept at it, but that sharp set of needles that was her pubic hair was really rubbing against my upper lip. So I slipped my left arm under her right thigh and around the other side (with her thigh in the crook of my arm) , and placed my left hand over her pubic hair, and gently pulled her public area upwards, thus pulling the top of her hood back with my palm and thereby killing two birds with one stone: I was intensifying her stimulation, while at the same time using my palm to protect my lips. Check out the brains on Kumbu!
This got her running. She lifted her hips and started a full-throated Oooooooooooooh and she held this perfect, single, unbroken, G note for a good 20 seconds. I was impressed with her operatic skills, and at the end of it there was a little shout. So it sounded a little like "Oooooooooooooo (20secondsworth) ooooooooooo-WAAAH!", at the end of which she started to buck like a fucking Charolais at the Oklahoma State Fair. I tightened my left arm so that I had a good grip on her thigh with that arm, and with my right arm, I reached underneath her now-airborn ass and grabbed a full palmful of ass flesh and squeezed tight. I now had a double-armed grip on her, one arm around her right thigh, the other around the top of her left thigh, grasping fully at the underside of her backside, all to avoid being bucked from this fiery steed. Meanwhile, I did my damndest to keep that tongue lashing at the clit, stroking rhythmically and fully, giving her all that the tongue would offer, as she climed the slopes of Climax Peak.
She burst open, metaphorically speaking, and her hips convulsed a little. She turned to the side, trying to get some distance from me, and I let her go at this point, and she started whimpering 'I want to suck you'. I kid you not, this is what she said, over and over again. It bordered on dirty talk: something that I have never heard a Thai girl do. So I obliged, but I was not done with her pussy just yet, so I flipped her over and had her sit down on my face and offered her little Kumbu for some oral pleasure. Ah yes, the beautiful view of the under carriage from beneath: is there a better image in all the universe? I think not.
So there I was, with my tongue deep within her pussy, nose squashing into her asshole, dick about to be sucked, when I realized that her asshole was wet wet wet. I mean it was dripping wet. WTF? I slowly realized the wetness was from her pussy. That is, all that DATY had produced volumes of liquids the likes of which I have rarely seen in a WG. I don't mean to pat myself on the back again, but this was real pussy juice that had dribbled all over her asshole. I kept tonguing her pussy for the next few minutes, but my attention was drained severely by the impending BBBJ she was about to give me.
Now before I tell you about this, let me preface with a little detail which is very important. Never in my life have I had a very satisfactory BJ. I just never have. Part of the problem is length. Little Kumbu is not particularly thick, but he is long, longer than usual. And because of this, girls can't really deep-throat me. Not that this is crucial, but it is something I can't get usually. The only time I ever had this was with a Lithuanian woman in an FKK in Germany several years ago, and this girl was, well, large. She was absolutely gorgeous and perfectly proportional (I reported on her in the FKK Artemis thread, if you are at all interested) , but she was perhaps 5'10" tall. And she deep-throated me like I have never been deep throated before. But no Thai girl has ever come close, for obvious dimensional reasons.
Second, little Kumbu tends to emit large quantities of pre-cum, I mean it is just a huge mess at times. And this stuff, I can imagine, is not particularly pleasant to taste, and so every BBBJ that I have ever received has been abbreviated because as gobs of this stuff fill the girls' mouths, they tend to think of ways to move on to something else. I don't blame them, but that's one of the reasons why I don't care too much about BJs: I've never had one that blew me away (pardon the pun).
So with that in mind, here is my description of the BJ she gave me. It was MAGNIFICENT. I mean simply a beauty to experience. The first thing she did was she gently took the head into the mouth and kind of just fumbled around with it a little with her tongue and lips. It reminded me a little bit of how a gangster standing on a 1930s street corner just tinkers with a coin as he eyes the passing pedestrians. She nuzzled, tinkled, and fumbled with the head like it was a gob-stopper, and it felt pretty good.
She then went deep throat on me in a way that kind of amazed me. She went down on me so hard and so suddenly that the tip of little Kumbu hit the back of her throat and she gagged a little. It was not a pleasant sound, but she was trying. She managed to get down to about an inch from the base of little Kumbu, which is further than most. But the deep throat was not what made this BBBJ special. It was what she did next which truly stood out.
She closed her lips around the shaft of little Kumbu and tightened her grip with her lips, and meanwhile, with her tongue, she did a gentle but firm set of circular motions along the underside of little Kumbu. Being this deep, this meant the entire underside of little Kumbu was being brushed deeply with the entirety of her tongue. I could feel her tongue rubbing in circles from the root to the tip, from the tip of little Kumbu almost to the base. It was a delight I shall savor for years to come. She did this for around 7 delightful seconds, and then released her lip-lock slightly, and at the same time her tongue hardened and the tip of her tongue pushed hard against the underside of little Kumbu. In a synchronized motion, she slid her mouth about a quarter inch up the shaft. Here she paused, and then repeated the whole thing again: tight lips while gently but firmly rubbing the underside of little Kumbu in craze-evoking circles, followed by a loose-lipped and tongue-tipped quarter-inch slide up the shaft. She did this in a rhythmic, metronomic yet sensuous fashion that just ignited me with buzzing, tingling sensations. My toes tingled, my solar plexus ignited, fuck, my asshole bulged too. It was a soulful, enlightening experience, the kind that I believe Buddha himself was seeking as he sat for years alone on a hilltop.
Imagine this machine slowly working its way up your shaft towards the head, with equal stimulation to the shaft as the underside, and it was slowly working towards the super sensitive underside just beneath the head. Holy Buh-Jesus, this was a great experience. So she got to the head, and did the final swirl of her tongue, and I was gasping for more. She paused to look at me, and I grinned at her like an addict grins at a pile of coke, with love and a sense of derangement. She then did the whole thing again, and I swear to you that if she had done it a third time I would have ejaculated in that poor girl's mouth with about a ton of cum, I was that hopped up.
But sadly my volumes of pre-cum put an end to that. At the end of the second cycle, she stopped to wipe the huge volumes of liquid from her mouth, and that kind of put me off. I mean, sure, it is a foul tasting effluent from a strange man's dick, but the sight of her wiping it from her mouth like it was some kind of, well, foul tasting effluent was not particularly pleasing. So I pulled out and moved on to the next act. While it ended poorly, I have to say that the technique she exhibited gets her full marks, even if the execution and commitment was somewhat lacking.
So I pulled out, she got off me, and on came the work-issued condom. I popped little Kumbu in, and away we went. I rode, rammed, hopped, humped, frolicked, skipped, slowed into a saunter, picked up pace into a canter and galloped the last quarter mile home to a standing ovation. The race was over before I knew it, and I collapsed onto her dripping with sweat and huffing like the stallion that I am not. The actual coitus was super quick, perhaps because of the delight of the preceding BBBJ, but whatever happened, it was done in a flash.
Shower, clean up, awkward dressing. 200b tip, kiss on the lips, diverted by Kumbu at the last minute to the cheek, and back downstairs. She gave me a Mango card, which a few days later embarrassingly fell out at the airport in front of five teenage Thai girls. She told me to make a booking next time to ensure better service. Ok, no intention to do so, but ok.
I walked out into the street and took a deep breath. Ah yes, that is the stench of BKK. As I inhaled the rancid air and absorbed the cacophony of traffic noises, I smelled her pussy juices in my nose and the back of my throat, and felt that dank, deep sense of being inside someone with one's mouth. Mmmm, savor that Kumbu, for it will not last forever.
My next report is from that same night, when I pounded the Leggy girl again, and I tried to teach her how to give a non-Kumbu-shredding BBBJ.
HectorSanchez
08-20-13, 03:13
Thanks for suggestions. I do all the below that you mentioned except the dress code. In mexico and latin america, people think I am arab and that I have lot of money. Its to my advantage. In Thailand, its the opposite. How funny.
If the bar scene does not work, I always have high end escorts.
Does living in a 5 star hotel make any difference?
Also, I would monger by myself and not in group which might put me at advantage. I am wondering how my buddy indians have changed the impressions of the country! India actually is knows for friendliness, discipline and respect.
Are there any specific bars which are indian friendly? Some bars that I better avoid?
If you present well (see below) , smell good, smile broadly, and have a wad of thousand baht notes in your pocket, you will be fine.
Present Well
1. Shower before you go out.
2. Take care of that body stank. If you need a prescription strength antiperspirant, man up and buy it because you will sweat in BKK, guaranteed. Nothing like the stench of old BO to turn girls and their touts off.
3. Dress well. This does not mean jeans and a clean t-shirt. A collared shirt is preferred, and tuck it in. In the States, that is a sign of a nerd, but in BKK, it is the sign of someone with manners. In a pinch, a polo style shirt will do, but make sure it fits well and is not stretched. Jeans are ok, if they are coupled with a quality shirt. The girls often like linen, FYI.
4. Wear good shoes. No flip flops, berkenstocks, or old sneakers. This does not necessarily mean Salvatore Ferragamo or Berluti, but something classy, clean, and not worn or torn. Believe it or not, I have had girls in gogo bars look at my shoes.
5. Get a decent haircut. I can't tell you how many Indians I have seen with that old-style haircut: part on the right, straight cut across the front and back, no frills. Get a decent haircut, or else you are signaling low-class Indian. No offense to anyone with this haircut, but it is a big tell.
6. Smile a lot. If someone decides to get assholish with you, let it go and move on to the next bar. Personally, I have never once had any kind of problem related to my skin color (dark skinned, not Indian myself, but often mistaken for one). But a good attitude goes a long way.
Forgive me if it was presumptuous of me to assume that you do not already do all of this, but my point is this: if you do these things, you can overcome any perceived racism in BKK. As I say, I have never been denied entrance to a bar, ever, so I don't worry about such things. What I am concerned about is that many girls have had bad experiences with brown-skinned people in the past, and they project those experiences onto me. Kind of like Syzygies' nipple twister story.
Oh, and don't believe it when people tell you girls in BKK are ugly or too expensive. This is a wonderful place to monger.
If the bar scene does not work, I always have high end escorts.
Does living in a 5 star hotel make any difference?
Are there any specific bars which are indian friendly? Some bars that I better avoid?Bar scene should work, but you're right: escorts are another option. I don't actually see the attraction of escorts myself, but to each his own.
Staying somewhere nice helps with the girls attitude. They like being in nice places, and they tend to relax when surrounded by opulence. So yes, it does help in that way.
I can't suggest specific places to go to or to avoid, since I have never been denied entrance (others may have some more useful advice, however). All the Rainbows have worked fine for me, Bacarra too, and all the other Soi Cowboy and NEP gogo bars. If you read my past reports, you will see that I have been successful at nightclubs too. Don't let your complexion bother you: your attitude and overall image more than outweigh it.
3. Dress well. This does not mean jeans and a clean t-shirt. A collared shirt is preferred, and tuck it in. In the States, that is a sign of a nerd, but in BKK, it is the sign of someone with manners. In a pinch, a polo style shirt will do, but make sure it fits well and is not stretched. Jeans are ok, if they are coupled with a quality shirt. The girls often like linen, FYI.Mostly good advice except for tucking the shirt in. Bangkok is hot and sticky and tucking the shirt in is not that practical. Added to that some Thai girls will say it looks nerdy or overly official. Untucked is more casual. My Thai GF will not tolerate me tucking the shirt in. She thinks it is not "cool" at all. Its not because of a big belly or anything. I am quite trim or skinny these days.
Does living in a 5 star hotel make any difference?I don't think a 5 star Hotel makes a huge difference if you are stingy with what you pay the girl. Then the girl will be angry and wondering why you waste so much money on the Hotel. If you are generous to her as well, then the great Hotel may add to her experience. I know certain girls were impressed by the Marriott and really liked it for example.
This one's for you, Uncle V.
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I awoke on Tuesday morning having slept more than any other night in the last 12: a full 6. 5 hours of sleep. I felt downright fetal in comparison to the last two weeks. The previous night had been a wash out. I had walked the streets of BKK in a futile attempt to find something special, and ended up with handfuls of nothing and the insipid taste of phantoms in my mouth. I awoke with the sound of a clock in my head, like a bomb about to go off, except this bomb was my impending departure from this wonderland that is BKK. Got to get cranking today, time is a tickin'.
I had two full days and nights left ahead of me. The days were scheduled to be full of work, and the nights needed to make up for that lost time. As a result of my bombed Monday night, I felt rested, and my pocket book was a little heavier (not finding anyone for the night meant I still had a couple of extra thousand baht to my name). So with the extra cash in my pocket and the pep in my step, things were looking good.
I dashed off to work, flirted with the office girls all day, and worked my tiny tush as hard as I could. And to my surprise and delight, we ended work a full hour earlier than scheduled. I boarded the skytrain at 4pm on my way back to the hotel, and decided to go straight to Mango. I needed a little bit of relaxation before the rigors of the evening.
I arrived at around 4:30, and a bunch of girls were outside eating. When I walked in, they all packed up and came inside, and there must have been 20 girls in that room at that point. Was this a shift change? Perhaps. I spied my little girl from the previous night, the no-name girl who sparked such a furor. I quickly scanned the mass of massage girl meat on display, and quickly opted for the same girl from the previous time. For some reason, the girls at Mango seemed to have way too much blush on their faces, it made them seem cheap and hussy-like. In fact, even my girl had this same over-done face make-up, and Kumbu no likey. But that is a minor quibble: so long as her ass came with all that blush, I am good to go.
I asked for her by name, and all the other girls rang out her name in a chorus, as if she were a superstar for being asked for by name. This time I chose just the one hour option, since I needed to get back to the hotel and freshen up for the exertions that would follow.
She smiled at me, remembered my name, and giggled as we walked up the stairs. We got into the room and she gave me a big embrace and a kiss on the lips, and said she was happy I came back and remembered her. How could I forget? I mean, this was the girl with whom I invented the new move, forever referred to as The Kumbu. I also spent an hour and a half worshiping her legs, buns and asshole. I sexed her for that period of time without even so much as touching her mouth or pussy with little Kumbu. It was very an interesting experience which was sure to bring this dog back for more.
So we showered together, nothing special, just some rigorous scrubbing and crevice cleansing. We got out and we lay out on the bed for a few moments, touching and caressing each other. She was pushing for some DFK, but I resisted, and she backed off promptly, without insult or injury. I then took charge and gently turned her onto her back, kissing her neck, her shoulders, and down to her breasts. I kissed the breasts, which were soft, clearly the breasts of someone in her early thirties. She responded with some louder-then-expected moans, which I did not particularly appreciate. But this spurred me on to move down her belly and to the beauty that lay beneath.
As expected, she smelled delicious and clean. I suppose she douched in the shower, and there was no stank to speak of. I got down slowly into her pubic hair, kissing it ever so slightly. I quickly noticed that she was short-cropped, which is my personal least favorite hair-do for the downstairs. It looks great, but talk about scruff burn: it hurts more than hell itself. I've ripped my lips up over such thorny cages before, so I am wary of such a prickly yet enticing treat. Her Bush was indeed thorny, and after just a few minutes of giving her a memorable lip-lashing, my lips were getting raw. But I persisted.
I worked her clit, which was openly visible, and her lips, which were tight and smallish, for a good 10 minutes. During this time she was moaning louder than I remember her doing last week, and it began annoying me. I mentioned this before, but I hate the fake moaning, it really puts me off. She also did this little jerky hip thrust, like all of a sudden she would jut her hip out a few inches and inhale quickly, as if she was suddenly being hit by a taser gun. This struck me as particularly fake, and it too was annoying me. After 10 minutes, I began pulling up, but she grabbed the top of my head and jammed it back in. I mean, she physically forced my head back in: I felt a little like a dildo being stuck back into her pussy.
Ok then. I guess she was enjoying this. So I persisted, and her moaning started to get louder and louder. I started to think that maybe, just maybe, this was how she actually reacts to sexual stimulation. Maybe she is naturally a groaner, and this is not really as fake as it seems. Well, hold your horses old Kumbu, let's not get ahead of ourselves here, patting ourselves on the back for no real reason. She is a WG after all, this is what she does for a living. I kept at it, but that sharp set of needles that was her pubic hair was really rubbing against my upper lip. So I slipped my left arm under her right thigh and around the other side (with her thigh in the crook of my arm) , and placed my left hand over her pubic hair, and gently pulled her public area upwards, thus pulling the top of her hood back with my palm and thereby killing two birds with one stone: I was intensifying her stimulation, while at the same time using my palm to protect my lips. Check out the brains on Kumbu!
This got her running. She lifted her hips and started a full-throated Oooooooooooooh and she held this perfect, single, unbroken, G note for a good 20 seconds. I was impressed with her operatic skills, and at the end of it there was a little shout. So it sounded a little like "Oooooooooooooo (20secondsworth) ooooooooooo-WAAAH!", at the end of which she started to buck like a fucking Charolais at the Oklahoma State Fair. I tightened my left arm so that I had a good grip on her thigh with that arm, and with my right arm, I reached underneath her now-airborn ass and grabbed a full palmful of ass flesh and squeezed tight. I now had a double-armed grip on her, one arm around her right thigh, the other around the top of her left thigh, grasping fully at the underside of her backside, all to avoid being bucked from this fiery steed. Meanwhile, I did my damndest to keep that tongue lashing at the clit, stroking rhythmically and fully, giving her all that the tongue would offer, as she climed the slopes of Climax Peak.
She burst open, metaphorically speaking, and her hips convulsed a little. She turned to the side, trying to get some distance from me, and I let her go at this point, and she started whimpering 'I want to suck you'. I kid you not, this is what she said, over and over again. It bordered on dirty talk: something that I have never heard a Thai girl do. So I obliged, but I was not done with her pussy just yet, so I flipped her over and had her sit down on my face and offered her little Kumbu for some oral pleasure. Ah yes, the beautiful view of the under carriage from beneath: is there a better image in all the universe? I think not.
So there I was, with my tongue deep within her pussy, nose squashing into her asshole, dick about to be sucked, when I realized that her asshole was wet wet wet. I mean it was dripping wet. WTF? I slowly realized the wetness was from her pussy. That is, all that DATY had produced volumes of liquids the likes of which I have rarely seen in a WG. I don't mean to pat myself on the back again, but this was real pussy juice that had dribbled all over her asshole. I kept tonguing her pussy for the next few minutes, but my attention was drained severely by the impending BBBJ she was about to give me.
Now before I tell you about this, let me preface with a little detail which is very important. Never in my life have I had a very satisfactory BJ. I just never have. Part of the problem is length. Little Kumbu is not particularly thick, but he is long, longer than usual. And because of this, girls can't really deep-throat me. Not that this is crucial, but it is something I can't get usually. The only time I ever had this was with a Lithuanian woman in an FKK in Germany several years ago, and this girl was, well, large. She was absolutely gorgeous and perfectly proportional (I reported on her in the FKK Artemis thread, if you are at all interested) , but she was perhaps 5'10" tall. And she deep-throated me like I have never been deep throated before. But no Thai girl has ever come close, for obvious dimensional reasons.
Second, little Kumbu tends to emit large quantities of pre-cum, I mean it is just a huge mess at times. And this stuff, I can imagine, is not particularly pleasant to taste, and so every BBBJ that I have ever received has been abbreviated because as gobs of this stuff fill the girls' mouths, they tend to think of ways to move on to something else. I don't blame them, but that's one of the reasons why I don't care too much about BJs: I've never had one that blew me away (pardon the pun).
So with that in mind, here is my description of the BJ she gave me. It was MAGNIFICENT. I mean simply a beauty to experience. The first thing she did was she gently took the head into the mouth and kind of just fumbled around with it a little with her tongue and lips. It reminded me a little bit of how a gangster standing on a 1930s street corner just tinkers with a coin as he eyes the passing pedestrians. She nuzzled, tinkled, and fumbled with the head like it was a gob-stopper, and it felt pretty good.
She then went deep throat on me in a way that kind of amazed me. She went down on me so hard and so suddenly that the tip of little Kumbu hit the back of her throat and she gagged a little. It was not a pleasant sound, but she was trying. She managed to get down to about an inch from the base of little Kumbu, which is further than most. But the deep throat was not what made this BBBJ special. It was what she did next which truly stood out.
She closed her lips around the shaft of little Kumbu and tightened her grip with her lips, and meanwhile, with her tongue, she did a gentle but firm set of circular motions along the underside of little Kumbu. Being this deep, this meant the entire underside of little Kumbu was being brushed deeply with the entirety of her tongue. I could feel her tongue rubbing in circles from the root to the tip, from the tip of little Kumbu almost to the base. It was a delight I shall savor for years to come. She did this for around 7 delightful seconds, and then released her lip-lock slightly, and at the same time her tongue hardened and the tip of her tongue pushed hard against the underside of little Kumbu. In a synchronized motion, she slid her mouth about a quarter inch up the shaft. Here she paused, and then repeated the whole thing again: tight lips while gently but firmly rubbing the underside of little Kumbu in craze-evoking circles, followed by a loose-lipped and tongue-tipped quarter-inch slide up the shaft. She did this in a rhythmic, metronomic yet sensuous fashion that just ignited me with buzzing, tingling sensations. My toes tingled, my solar plexus ignited, fuck, my asshole bulged too. It was a soulful, enlightening experience, the kind that I believe Buddha himself was seeking as he sat for years alone on a hilltop.
Imagine this machine slowly working its way up your shaft towards the head, with equal stimulation to the shaft as the underside, and it was slowly working towards the super sensitive underside just beneath the head. Holy Buh-Jesus, this was a great experience. So she got to the head, and did the final swirl of her tongue, and I was gasping for more. She paused to look at me, and I grinned at her like an addict grins at a pile of coke, with love and a sense of derangement. She then did the whole thing again, and I swear to you that if she had done it a third time I would have ejaculated in that poor girl's mouth with about a ton of cum, I was that hopped up.
But sadly my volumes of pre-cum put an end to that. At the end of the second cycle, she stopped to wipe the huge volumes of liquid from her mouth, and that kind of put me off. I mean, sure, it is a foul tasting effluent from a strange man's dick, but the sight of her wiping it from her mouth like it was some kind of, well, foul tasting effluent was not particularly pleasing. So I pulled out and moved on to the next act. While it ended poorly, I have to say that the technique she exhibited gets her full marks, even if the execution and commitment was somewhat lacking.
So I pulled out, she got off me, and on came the work-issued condom. I popped little Kumbu in, and away we went. I rode, rammed, hopped, humped, frolicked, skipped, slowed into a saunter, picked up pace into a canter and galloped the last quarter mile home to a standing ovation. The race was over before I knew it, and I collapsed onto her dripping with sweat and huffing like the stallion that I am not. The actual coitus was super quick, perhaps because of the delight of the preceding BBBJ, but whatever happened, it was done in a flash.
Shower, clean up, awkward dressing. 200b tip, kiss on the lips, diverted by Kumbu at the last minute to the cheek, and back downstairs. She gave me a Mango card, which a few days later embarrassingly fell out at the airport in front of five teenage Thai girls. She told me to make a booking next time to ensure better service. Ok, no intention to do so, but ok.
I walked out into the street and took a deep breath. Ah yes, that is the stench of BKK. As I inhaled the rancid air and absorbed the cacophony of traffic noises, I smelled her pussy juices in my nose and the back of my throat, and felt that dank, deep sense of being inside someone with one's mouth. Mmmm, savor that Kumbu, for it will not last forever.
My next report is from that same night, when I pounded the Leggy girl again, and I tried to teach her how to give a non-Kumbu-shredding BBBJ.Again, nice story, but really of little help to us here on the forum without the name of the provider. So who was the gal?
NeverJerkOff
08-20-13, 04:05
200b tip.Let me guess, this one was remarkably eloquent and articulate also? I don't actually read your posts but was looking for numbers and seems my advice will help you save lots of money throughout your lifetime. I am the one you should be tipping with a paid membership but I didn't lie and play you like your hooker so you will not. My advice is to not follow most guys advice because most guy's are suckers. In my country, they work their whole life to support a woman that gives them sex once a week without oral and then takes half of his lifetime earnings when he doesn't do the dishes once. This attitude translates to paid sex too, where they also get played.
Tony Hoeprano
08-20-13, 04:29
Does living in a 5 star hotel make any difference?
Also, I would monger by myself and not in group which might put me at advantage. I am wondering how my buddy indians have changed the impressions of the country! India actually is knows for friendliness, discipline and respect.
Are there any specific bars which are indian friendly? Some bars that I better avoid?It could either help or hurt, depending on the girl's frame of mind. On one hand, she might be impressed that you're able to afford such a swank place. On the other hand, she might fear staying in a 5 star hotel would enable you to hide more of your homies for the group discount.....
Also, I would monger by myself and not in group which might put me at advantage. I am wondering how my buddy indians have changed the impressions of the country! India actually is knows for friendliness, discipline and respectIn looks close to Indians though not. Specially the girls near Grace or the streets even some girls from bar asking me I Indian and I alone or not. Every time I assured them not Indian and alone. LOL. The story was common to hear that the Indians comes on numbers. Even some one alone, later on in the room found they are not. It's scary for the girls (Sorry, not offending to anyone).
Uncle Volodya
08-20-13, 06:05
My toes tingled, my solar plexus ignited, fuck, my asshole bulged too. It was a soulful, enlightening experience, the kind that I believe Buddha himself was seeking as he sat for years alone on a hilltop.Amazing prose, as always Kumbu. You are truly a master of your craft.
You almost make me want to go back to my bad old ways. (This girl I am trying to be faithful to better be worth it!)
Wolvenvacht
08-20-13, 07:15
3. Dress well. This does not mean jeans and a clean t-shirt. A collared shirt is preferred, and tuck it in. In the States, that is a sign of a nerd, but in BKK, it is the sign of someone with manners.Ah, this has all the signs of the start of a holy "shirt" war!
Some guidelines can be found here: https://ardenreed.com/blog/to-tuck-or-not-to-tuck-mens-shirt-guidelines/
It seems it all depends on how "casual" the other elements of your clothes are and the type of the shirt and the length of the shirt-tails. One rule I find easy to follow is this: when the bottom of the shirt is cut straight, wear it untucked, when it really has shirttails (especially when they hang lower than about one hand-span below your belt) , wear it tucked. Anything in between can go both ways.
And here is a nice way to tuck it in: http://agoodman.com.au/how-to-tuck-in-a-shirt-so-that-it-stays-tucked/
Tony Hoeprano
08-20-13, 07:58
Go ahead and tuck your shirts in if you want to look like Steve Urkel LOL
Member #4387
08-20-13, 08:56
Kumbu I mostly agree in your writing and I guess it is not the end of the world if you commit a shirt tuck in. But as goes for the ladies they don't like it one bit (I guess worldwide) and you also state so yourself. It looks nerdy. This does not change in Thailand it is still nerdy. I have various sources claiming the oposite so in my book a shirt should hang loose. For the use of a suite and tie other rules applies ofcourse. So for shirts, polos, t-shirts hang loose no tuck, hehe.
Funny you should mention Salvatore Ferragamo. Love this brand.
FreebieFan
08-20-13, 09:21
Ah, this has all the signs of the start of a holy "shirt" war!
Some guidelines can be found here:
https://ardenreed.com/blog/to-tuck-or-not-to-tuck-mens-shirt-guidelines/
[/url]Of course if we all got really bored, we could start with the socks / no socks look too. LOL
I totally agree. At Thermae there are a lot of girls who decline farang. It is useless offering more than the standart rate. They don't even look at a farang standing a meter in front of them.You need to:
1. Offer more money.
2. Take it out of wherever it is & show it to them all.
3. Use it like a portable do it yourself fan.
4. Get closer & wave it in their face.
5. Make sure they see how many bills you have & the denominations.
6. Slowly count it within a meter from the girl.
7. Go from girl to girl in the whole lineup doing this.
8. Buy them all drinks & get them so pissed they can barely walk.
9. Sing them a Thai love song.
10. Offer a lift to your 5 star hotel in the limo waiting outside.
Works for me.
Untucked shirt is the typical look of Indian guys. Walk the streets of Mumbai, Delhi or Bangalore and you know why Kumbu advised that guy to tuck in his shirt. I hope that doesn't sound too rude as I know the clothing style of my countrymen while on vacation in Thailand is even worse.
While there are certainly situations in which an untucked shirt perfectly suits and it may look great on any young, sporty and handsome guy I would suggest tucked in shirts for most of us. If in the mood for a more casual loook I would wear a polo (this has to go untucked of course).
You are right about that one TH. Last week me, my father, and my brother were at a disco. There was a smoking hot chick at the table next to ours and I knew a couple of her friends. I called one of the girls that I knew over and told them that I wanted to get with the girl. She told me that the girl liked my brother, but one of the other girls at the table liked me. I said fuck that. Tell her that I want her. She went to talk to the girl and came back over and said she will go with you for 2000. I said to tell her no thank you and good luck. She ended up going with my brother for the usual 1000.How do people get smoking hot chicks for only 1000B? Free agent girl told me 1500 for short time and she was not smoking hot but must be because of my bald head.
Gentlemen,
My advice to tuck was to this one individual and his individual concerns. It was never intended to generalize to the whole of mongerdom. I wholly agree that the tuck is not for all people, and indeed not for most people. However, if you are whiter than the driven snow, you operate in a slightly different world than others. The white man still commands some respect, despite what some on this board claim about the Japanese having taken over. If you do not possess that complexion, you must do certain things to compensate for that lack of respect; the lack of respect that derives from a perception of racial discrimination. A shirt tuck, while nerdy and excessive to most, does the trick for me. I hate having to do it: it makes me feel preppy and uptight. But it does give me a preppy look, which is non-threatening, and different enough from the other people of my complexion who have earned Brown a bad reputation.
I apologize for (inadvertently) starting this discussion because ultimately, I think the OP could go either way: with or without the tuck. Let's hope that is the end of this particular discussion.
Again, nice story, but really of little help to us here on the forum without the name of the provider. So who was the gal?You quoted Kumbu's full report to ask a two line question. Have a heart for those trying to read the forum on tablets or smart phones.
Slim
Not sure how the rest of the community feels about it, but I think there should be a separate thread for "Stories;" stories being exploits where the name of the gal is not revealed. Personally, I find these long exegeses to be entertaining, but would rather see them in another context. I think it is great that dudes want to have their experiences validated, but in there is a place for this and IMHO the Bangkok Forum and especially the MP forums are not the place. These forums are for us to share information on gals and ask questions, not to revel in our exploits while in one way thumbing our noses at the other posters.
Good gals will get busy whether you share the info or not. Good for them. A quick shower and she is as good as new.
Another thread will give guys who want to do this an outlet and save time for those of us who don't want to wade through posts on how great a gal is, only to be disappointed that the dude writing it thinks that sharing the name is a problem.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?Just managing to inclose the word 'exegese' into a generally sub-literate thread commands my respect!
Another thread will give guys who want to do this an outlet and save time for those of us who don't want to wade through posts on how great a gal is, only to be disappointed that the dude writing it thinks that sharing the name is a problem.
Thoughts?Actually I go along with this idea. It creates a distinction between reports with info on the ladies identity which we can then partake of and anonymous reports where you know before reading there will be no identification. We could call it "Anonymous provider thread".
Regards,
BJ
Uncle Volodya
08-20-13, 15:16
Not sure how the rest of the community feels about it, but I think there should be a separate thread for "Stories;" stories being exploits where the name of the gal is not revealed. Personally, I find these long exegeses to be entertaining, but would rather see them in another context. I think it is great that dudes want to have their experiences validated, but in there is a place for this and IMHO the Bangkok Forum and especially the MP forums are not the place. These forums are for us to share information on gals and ask questions, not to revel in our exploits while in one way thumbing our noses at the other posters.
Good gals will get busy whether you share the info or not. Good for them. A quick shower and she is as good as new.
Another thread will give guys who want to do this an outlet and save time for those of us who don't want to wade through posts on how great a gal is, only to be disappointed that the dude writing it thinks that sharing the name is a problem.
Thoughts?I think its enough that he told us where he found the girl. I mean, we also have to expend some effort as well. Do we also expect him to screw the girl for us too?
Though I guess, in a way, this is what Kumbu is doing with his great descriptions. LOL.
I enjoy Kumbu's prose and his take on the philosophy of our hobby. His posts break the (often mindnumbing) monotony of some of the discussions here.
Stay Horny Kumbu and keep posting your adventures!
Uncle-V
I think its enough that he told us where he found the girl. I mean, we also have to expend some effort as well. Do we also expect him to screw the girl for us too?
Though I guess, in a way, this is what Kumbu is doing with his great descriptions. LOL.
I enjoy Kumbu's prose and his take on the philosophy of our hobby. His posts break the (often mindnumbing) monotony of some of the discussions here.
Stay Horny Kumbu and keep posting your adventures!
Uncle-VThere are some who only think a report or post is any good without the name(s) of the lady(ies) involved. To me that adds nothing and I am more delighted that Kumbu.
Is breaking into the old timers' one line comments which must be boring to them and are certainly boring to newcomers.
There is no need to blazen the name of the lady involved across the post; enough that Kumbu had fun.
Every time I land in BKK I wear shorts / Tshirts / Sandals while going around unless I am going to a nice place. The point is, it does not matter what you wear as long as it is decent. Its how you project confidence in what you wear. The WGs gives a rats ass what you wear as long as you don't look like a hobo. When I first landed on BKK scene back in the late 90s, Indians were not looked upon as they are today. The big push for Indian tourists have brought a new set of Indian a*les who come from rich background but no ethics, morals or decency. That has been the reason for the hate scene for Indians.
Tips.
Smelling good and having a clean body is essential. I have met some Indians who stink to high heaven and you can smell them half a mile away.
Respect and treat them as you would want yourselves to be treated. They are people too.
Throwing money around only attracts the low life who is out to rob you. (It doesn't matter what country you are in). Stay in a decent hotel. Does not have to bbe a five star.
Don't bargain like an el cheapo Indian. If you can't afford it move away. They will negotiate if they like you. Make an counter offer if you want but don't haggle. You get what you pay for. You can get the feel for rates on these pages. Ultimately how much you pay depends on how much it was worth to you.
Escorts are expensive and doesn't guarantee a great time.
Give a decent tip at the end of session if the girl deserves it. Jaidee is a term that comes to mind.
When they ask where you are from, say Mui Americano. The attitude changes.
Don't go looking for Indians, Africans, Russians etc. These are the dregs from the countries they come from. If yo want them, go to Germany and the FKK clubs. Money spent there is worth every euro.
Learn a little Thai. Most girls have a smattering of english and if you can converse with them a little bit it makes the experience much better.
There are other tips, but this should get you started. You will learn as you go along. Have fun and enjoy.
With all due respect to the 'do not name her' or to the 'name her' or to the 'tuck' or 'not tuck' crowd. By any chance was her name Lek. Yes, I know, every other Thai female is either named Nok or Lek or Noi or. I have made Crazy House my regular hit up place and have been in there five nights running. When I was there, in one of my nights, I met up with a little thing from Buriram, named Lek and she said it was her second night working. Which mathematically matches your 5th night encounter. Just a curiosity bit is all. I did NOT take her out. I was fixated on one from upstairs.
Return to Crazy House. SNIPPED.
I then decided I fancied another girl. A shy type. Cute face in an Isaan way. Not too dark despite from Buriram. Turned out she was new and just only her 5th day. Had never been with Farang and actually done it. Has a few things to learn yet of course. I might just train her up. Took a LT with her.
SNIPPED
LittleBigMan
08-20-13, 17:43
Untucked shirt is the typical look of Indian guys. Walk the streets of Mumbai, Delhi or Bangalore and you know why Kumbu advised that guy to tuck in his shirt. I hope that doesn't sound too rude as I know the clothing style of my countrymen while on vacation in Thailand is even worse.
While there are certainly situations in which an untucked shirt perfectly suits and it may look great on any young, sporty and handsome guy I would suggest tucked in shirts for most of us. If in the mood for a more casual loook I would wear a polo (this has to go untucked of course).I living here and always in shorts, not swim trucks, have my shirts tucked out all the time just can't seem to tuck them in unless it is with a long pants. Not sure of the look but it looks fine by me as long as the shirt isn't too large on the person and of course if the shirt and pants short or long is clean and pressed nicely never had anyone complain to me.
LBM
I living here and always in shorts, not swim trucks, have my shirts tucked out all the time just can't seem to tuck them in unless it is with a long pants. Not sure of the look but it looks fine by me as long as the shirt isn't too large on the person and of course if the shirt and pants short or long is clean and pressed nicely never had anyone complain to me.
LBMBut how you wear it (Except sleeveless T-shirts which are a complete no-no.)
It has to be clean, pressed and smart but most Thai WGs are looking for the bulge of your wallet and the interest in your eyes rather than what you are wearing.
I think its enough that he told us where he found the girl. I mean, we also have to expend some effort as well. Do we also expect him to screw the girl for us too?I do expend effort, and when I post about an experience with a new gal, I share the name, good or bad. Again, there is a place for everything and I said so in my original post. Want to read stories without names like the old Penthouse forum? Fine, create a thread for it. Want to post useful information about mongering in BKK, post in the BKK and MP threads.
I do expend effort, and when I post about an experience with a new gal, I share the name, good or bad. Again, there is a place for everything and I said so in my original post. Want to read stories without names like the old Penthouse forum? Fine, create a thread for it. Want to post useful information about mongering in BKK, post in the BKK and MP threads.But I defend anyone's right not to name the WG. Useful information is knowing good places and those that overall offer good service. But it is most unlikely that any WG I enjoy would enjoy being with you.
Unless you are determined to only go for PSE and ram the hell out of a WG with no concern for her, what suits me won't hit you.
So go for the maximum information about the place and leave us to find a compatible WG.
Bluntly I don't want Wei, Nei and Noo whom everyone else on here has rammed.
But I defend anyone's right not to name the WG. Useful information is knowing good places and those that overall offer good service. But it is most unlikely that any WG I enjoy would enjoy being with you.
Unless you are determined to only go for PSE and ram the hell out of a WG with no concern for her, what suits me won't hit you.
So go for the maximum information about the place and leave us to find a compatible WG.
Bluntly I don't want Wei, Nei and Noo whom everyone else on here has rammed.Dude, with all due respect. Most working girls see a lot of action. If you think you are "special" then you need to think again. They are everyone's dates. Again, a quick shower and she is good as new.
Places don't offer good service, so the place is only of importance because specific women are there. Some women at certain places do and some women at the same places don't and that is why a majority of guys read this forum.
That is not to say that most of us don't treat them well and respect their limits.
Your statement about a WG that you enjoy would not enjoy being with me (although I have no idea why you would make that statement) proves my point. Reporting on gals, telling what they do and don't do, and naming them is a great service to the gal and to the punter both. Keeps guys that are not compatible with them away. Really man, there should be no egos that need feeding here. No need to prove that "you got game." If guys want to play that game then why P4P? I just don't get it.
Dude, with all due respect. Most working girls see a lot of action. If you think you are "special" then you need to think again. They are everyone's dates. Again, a quick shower and she is good as new.
Places don't offer good service, so the place is only of importance because specific women are there. Some women at certain places do and some women at the same places don't and that is why a majority of guys read this forum.
That is not to say that most of us don't treat them well and respect their limits.
Your statement about a WG that you enjoy would not enjoy being with me (although I have no idea why you would make that statement) proves my point. Reporting on gals, telling what they do and don't do, and naming them is a great service to the gal and to the punter both. Keeps guys that are not compatible with them away. Really man, there should be no egos that need feeding here. No need to prove that "you got game." If guys want to play that game then why P4P? I just don't get it.I agree that many / most WGs see a lot of action but that does not mean they cannot be they cannot be treated with respect. And plastering details of your f*ck with a particular girl all over ISG cannot be regarded as treating her with respect. It is down right insulting.
In stating you would not enjoy my choice, and vice versa I was stating the obvious. The girls you f*ck may well not appeal to me and vice versa.
I will continue to believe that naming the WG is just another example of bad manners and lack of respect.
HectorSanchez
08-21-13, 01:26
I am just amazed by so many responses of the fellow mongers. I appreciate all the inputs.
Hopefully I will have a great experience. This will be my first time in BKK and the thread is so huge that I am lost about what information I need. But I will do my home work. If the girls speak any english, they would come to know that I am an american by my accent. I also know very little hindi.
I think I am going to stay with jeans and some nice t shirts untucked. If I wear any formal shirt then offcourse it goes tucked. I will get some nice shoes preferably black formals.
Money is already there. Now I need to chose a great hotel chica friendly preferably 5 star near to the mongering areas.
I will definitely now visit rainbow just to compete with fellow japanese folks. LOL. I do love asian japanese and korean women.
Another way to beat the discrimination is to monger with a fellow gringo or a japanese. Too bad my buddy gringos here in USA can't make it. If I knew this earlier, I would have definitely convinced one or two to join me.
My next homework would be to study some of the Thailand scams just for precaution. Offcourse no casino, drugs, threesome or booze to stupor.
Streetwalker7
08-21-13, 01:50
On my way out of Rainbow 4 last night I did see the main door guy tell 3 Indian looking guys to move on. They do let Hells Angels types and hooligan in so I was kind of surprised.
I see Indians in Baccara all the time. And often smell them as they walk by. LOL.
Another way to beat the discrimination is to monger with a fellow gringo or a japanese. Too bad my buddy gringos here in USA can't make it. If I knew this earlier, I would have definitely convinced one or two to join me.
My next homework would be to study some of the Thailand scams just for precaution. Offcourse no casino, drugs, threesome or booze to stupor.I think if you are American born Indian, you will be fine. Sure, there might be some discrimination based on your skin color / ethnicity. As an older overweight white man, I've had my share of rejections. Just remember, there is always more out there. The biggest issue I've seen with Indians is there attempt at group discounts. Four or five guys surround a SW and try to negotiate a price for her to do all guys. (There was a great article in the paper I saw where a single Pattaya Beach Road freelancer drugged five guys in their hotel room and robbed them. That takes balls!)
With respect to travelling with others, I find I do much better solo than with others. Sometimes I walk into an establishment, look around and if nothing I like, I will walk out. However, if you with others, one or two might see something they like forcing you to endure a wasted hour or so. But if I'm not out looking to find a woman for the night, I have no problem hanging with the guys, but then it becomes more of a drinking night than anything.
You will have fun for sure. Just make sure you remember, there's always another woman elsewhere if you encounter something you don't like.
Member #4698
08-21-13, 03:06
On my way out of Rainbow 4 last night I did see the main door guy tell 3 Indian looking guys to move on.One night while I was sitting outside of Rainbow 4 on the veranda smoking a Cohiba Mini and talking to a Rainbow 4 girl I know there, we saw this well dressed and apparently affluent young Indian guy approach the front door. The bouncer denied the Indian entry as is the policy of Rainbow 4. Now here is the interesting part of this short interaction that impressed me and why I still remember it: the Indian guy paused for only a split second, long enough to look the bouncer straight in the eye, then showing absolutely no emotion, he walked on. It was a classy move on the Indian's part. It conveyed a totally superior attitude. It said, I can't be bothered by the actions of a low class Thai bouncer or the discriminatory policy of a BKK Go Go bar. And that was that.
I will continue to believe that naming the WG is just another example of bad manners and lack of respect.You take the respect too far. You want to consider the best interests of the girl too. Would she like her name mentioned? If so, why not? How did Aor #24 at Annies feel about my detailed writeup? She was pleased (very pleased) to get the publicity and extra business. Girls can be very happy with any assist to get them to superstar status. Most girls, of course, are not reading the ISG directly.
I have told girls about writing about them and no backlash. They still like me. I do decide though which ones might prefer to be not named, if they are shy and new to it all.
Most girls are well aware they can and will be written about. This may motivate them to put in their best performance.
Its not like we publish the girl's real full name. Only nicknames (that are very common) and also special working names.
Paul Kausch
08-21-13, 03:28
You got to watch out for the backlash from your little jokes LOL.Yes, this forum needs more sobriety.
I will continue to believe that naming the WG is just another example of bad manners and lack of respect.There are two angles on this (in whatever order you want them) : First is the forum, to which reports without names contribute some entertainment and atmosphere but little information. There certainly is a place for them, especially if they're well written. But based on them alone, the board would soon become boring. As others said, the venues sually don't mean much, P4P is a personal kind of service and depends on the individual provider (and then still YMMV). Second is the girl, who obviously works in the trade to earn some THB. That requires customers. So if ISG brings her customers, she'll be happy (not about every single one of them but in principle). As Syzygies wrote, not too few of them appreciate positive publicity and mind you, they don't use their real names and so there's no danger of being publicly exposed. Candid pictures with faces not blurred are a different story and I wouldn't do that without explicit permission from the girl.
By any chance was her name Lek. Yes, I know, every other Thai female is either named Nok or Lek or Noi or. I have made Crazy House my regular hit up place and have been in there five nights running. When I was there, in one of my nights, I met up with a little thing from Buriram, named Lek and she said it was her second night working. Which mathematically matches your 5th night encounter. Just a curiosity bit is all. I did NOT take her out. I was fixated on one from upstairs.No my girl was not called Lek. There is more than one from Buriram. My girl does not wear a number so I don't even know what her number is. Were you the one I saw last night, looking like a young Scott Glenn, with the Ding Dong crazy dancer? LOL. She has very nice tit job. 30K for Collagen tits that look 95% real. Only very faintly suspicious. Not at all like the obvious silicone jobs.
The problem in Baccara is most of the plastic surgery looks too unnatural. Ridiculous looking tits, for example!
Apparently the method used by Crazy House to get the lookers is simple. Pay a high monthly salary. The nude dancers are getting 18K per month and the dancers with revealing outfits get 8K. Fines are high though if girl does not show up to work.
Having a core group of lookers attracts the customers, and then bar is busy, and this helps attract more girls. Last night many of the lookers got BFed very early in the evening. It was busy. Both Japanese and Farangs.
I was very impressed by beauty of No. 91. She gets barfined for ST frequently. Apparently no LT (has Thai BF). She apparently has a nose job but it is one of the few very professional ones that look really good. Not sure why such young working girls want to be stuck with a Thai BF.
Be careful. Many girls are rather young!
Last night I was teaching my newbie girl BBBJ techniques and she is learning fast. Was quite good without being deep throat. Many things to teach her, like how she must tell the customer what time she needs to go home by when doing LT so he has plenty of time to get his morning pop. Today she was happy to stay till after B / F given a small extra tip. Her family has significant debts which is why she needs the money and has had to work in the bar to get it more quickly. Also has a young child to support. She is a girl of good character but has a lot to learn. Like one day a customer got her drunk (normally she does not drink at all) and ended up all her money was stolen (not by the customer). Very normal scenario, so girls must learn not to get drunk even when customer wants to buy them many tequilas.
Paul Kausch
08-21-13, 04:10
I will continue to believe that naming the WG is just another example of bad manners and lack of respect.I think I'm going to tell my friend who owns a restaurant that out of respect for him I'm just going to tell people there is a great restaurant in town, describe the delicious food, but not tell anyone the name or location. Bet he'll love that!
But I defend anyone's right not to name the WG. Useful information is knowing good places and those that overall offer good service. But it is most unlikely that any WG I enjoy would enjoy being with you.
Unless you are determined to only go for PSE and ram the hell out of a WG with no concern for her, what suits me won't hit you.
So go for the maximum information about the place and leave us to find a compatible WG.I agree with this. There are a lot of different reasons to peruse this Forum but for me what I always hope to get out of it is to either gain some information or to share some information on either the general scene or on various venues. I have zero interest in specific data on a specific girl and have very little interest in reading about guys going into explicit detail about their sexual "conquests". Are there guys who really keep track of what other guys have to say about a girl or a number and then go look her up? What would be the point? The chances of me liking the looks of a girl that another poster does are tiny, the chances of her being there even smaller and if I did go with her I am sure my experience would be completely different. So why bother? But if someone writes that this bar has a great line-up or that some pretty fl's are located somewhere that is worth taking a look. But going with a girl based on someone's recommendation is just not something I would do unless he said you could find gold doubloons in her privates. But we are all different and are all looking for something different and that is fine. That's what makes a forum like this so good because it has a little something for everyone.
Are there guys who really keep track of what other guys have to say about a girl or a number and then go look her up? What would be the point? The chances of me liking the looks of a girl that another poster does are tiny, the chances of her being there even smaller and if I did go with her I am sure my experience would be completely different.Of course there are guys will take note of recommendations and go try. We get to know which other posters have similar tastes over time. As an example, Pita123 and I usually like the same girls. If he thinks a girl has top looks and is nice, I probably will too, and visa versa. Maybe yourself and I have a totally different style and will like totally different girls. Sure this is also expected.
It's not necessary to take other guys' recommendations. Mostly (95% or more) I am finding girls for myself. Even if a girl is recommended I won't try her unless I like her look. Not everyone has the time available to go hunting for the best girls by themselves. Even my time is limited. I have to work too and only in Thailand part time.
Sometimes we get influenced to try a shop, sure. I would never have tried Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Snow White, Annies, Angel, etc. Without the forum publicity.
I think it varies. Some guys prefer go try recommended girls. Others prefer to find them themselves. I am mostly in the second camp but also get influenced at times, especially if I am undecided. Pretty much everyone of my favourite girls was self selected. Perhaps I was partially influenced to try #24 at Annies. I can't remember now. I remember wanting to try #28 first, but not getting the chance.
I agree that many / most WGs see a lot of action but that does not mean they cannot be they cannot be treated with respect. And plastering details of your f*ck with a particular girl all over ISG cannot be regarded as treating her with respect. It is down right insulting.
In stating you would not enjoy my choice, and vice versa I was stating the obvious. The girls you f*ck may well not appeal to me and vice versa.
I will continue to believe that naming the WG is just another example of bad manners and lack of respect.Then there is really no need for this forum is there? You are buying a service, just like any other. If you have a good or bad experience with a maid, gardener, investment counselor, etc, you tell people about it. It is their business. This is no different. It has nothing to do with respect.
So how about it moderators? Let's create a separate forum for "stories."
HectorSanchez
08-21-13, 04:46
How sad. I am glad that it will be my first and last trip to Thailand. I do not blame thai women for such rude behavior. Apparently there has to be something which makes them behave that way. But I do not have anything to do with this and I refuse to be a part of such community. I will still do my trip and have fun but I guess I do not want to go back.
I have been mongering in Columbia and mexico. Man those places treat me like a king. Bouncers in mexico do not even check me when I enter the club. Not only that, Once I enter, they announce in the club (PEOPLE FROM INDIA. PEOPLE FROM INDIA. HERE TO HAVE FUN). I tip girls generously and do not bargain on anything. All I care about is true GFE and I don't mind paying as long as its not a high ball offer. With such attitude, I almost have had GFE with most of the girls I go with.
I am extremely sensitive to racistic attitude and it kills my mood. No sex is worth if you get insulted. Its degrading yourself and no one deserves that. Especially after taking a trip from USA to BKK and with wallet full of money ready to spend on these girls.
What a irony. I wish I knew this before making my plans and booking tickets.
On my way out of Rainbow 4 last night I did see the main door guy tell 3 Indian looking guys to move on. They do let Hells Angels types and hooligan in so I was kind of surprised.
I see Indians in Baccara all the time. And often smell them as they walk by. LOL.
How sad. I am glad that it will be my first and last trip to Thailand. I do not blame thai women for such rude behavior. Apparently there has to be something which makes them behave that way. But I do not have anything to do with this and I refuse to be a part of such community. I will still do my trip and have fun but I guess I do not want to go back.
I have been mongering in Columbia and mexico. Man those places treat me like a king. Bouncers in mexico do not even check me when I enter the club. Not only that, Once I enter, they announce in the club (PEOPLE FROM INDIA. PEOPLE FROM INDIA. HERE TO HAVE FUN). I tip girls generously and do not bargain on anything. All I care about is true GFE and I don't mind paying as long as its not a high ball offer. With such attitude, I almost have had GFE with most of the girls I go with.
I am extremely sensitive to racistic attitude and it kills my mood. No sex is worth if you get insulted. Its degrading yourself and no one deserves that. Especially after taking a trip from USA to BKK and with wallet full of money ready to spend on these girls.
What a irony. I wish I knew this before making my plans and booking tickets.Calm down, relax and go see for yourself then make up your mind. Also if you do not bargain on ANYTHING that wallet full of money you have will be gone in no time and you will be known as a sucker.
How sad. I am glad that it will be my first and last trip to Thailand. I do not blame thai women for such rude behavior. Apparently there has to be something which makes them behave that way. But I do not have anything to do with this and I refuse to be a part of such community. I will still do my trip and have fun but I guess I do not want to go back.
I have been mongering in Columbia and mexico. Man those places treat me like a king. Bouncers in mexico do not even check me when I enter the club. Not only that, Once I enter, they announce in the club (PEOPLE FROM INDIA. PEOPLE FROM INDIA. HERE TO HAVE FUN). I tip girls generously and do not bargain on anything. All I care about is true GFE and I don't mind paying as long as its not a high ball offer. With such attitude, I almost have had GFE with most of the girls I go with.
I am extremely sensitive to racistic attitude and it kills my mood. No sex is worth if you get insulted. Its degrading yourself and no one deserves that. Especially after taking a trip from USA to BKK and with wallet full of money ready to spend on these girls.
What a irony. I wish I knew this before making my plans and booking tickets.It's sad that you feel this way at this point. I really hope it doesn't taint your trip. Just so you know, while being white I've never been denied entry to any place, but being white I've been completely ignored at places that favor Japanese (Thermae in particular and some a go gos). It's hard to really know for sure, but I think I'd rather know before going into a place that I don't have a chance with any of the ladies.
It's not just Thailand that does this. I was in Bodrum in Turkey many years ago. When I would walk into a club, the bouncer would say something to me in Turkish, I would respond with something like,"I'm sorry, I don't understand you." Then they would reply "Oh, I thought you were someone else."
This happened many places, so I thought either something was up or I had a Turkish doppelganger. At one club, I saw the bouncer pull the same thing with someone else and he responded similarly. He was wearing a Dollhouse (strip club) T-shirt from North Carolina (I believe). I pointed to the shirt and asked him how the place was and he had no idea what it was. I found out he was Turkish, but when the bouncers talked with him he pretended to be American because the clubs denied single Turkish men in the clubs. Their reason was "Turkish men get into fights and don't spend money."
I wonder if a tip to the bouncer would get you in to show you plan to spend money. As far as I understand it, the bar owners are afraid that the Indians will order one cheap drink and nurse it all night taking space from "paying" customers.
FreebieFan
08-21-13, 07:02
Then there is really no need for this forum is there? You are buying a service, just like any other. If you have a good or bad experience with a maid, gardener, investment counselor, etc, you tell people about it. It is their business. This is no different. It has nothing to do with respect.
So how about it moderators? Let's create a separate forum for "stories."Depends how you view the forum and maybe life in general. I enjoy reading new reports from places that are relevant to me and post ocassionaly. The report, stories and fights are all part and parcel of ISG and has been for past 10/15 years that I've been a member. Some boards are lame others are lively. I say theres room for all and for types theres room. No need for separate threads for " I fucked a girl for 500bht" " " I fucked one for less than that" or " I got one from Rainbow pt 1" " I got one from rainbow pt 2" " I ate tomyam" " I ate somtam". Leave it all on one happy thread.
How sad. I am glad that it will be my first and last trip to Thailand. I do not blame thai women for such rude behavior. Apparently there has to be something which makes them behave that way. But I do not have anything to do with this and I refuse to be a part of such community. I will still do my trip and have fun but I guess I do not want to go back. I wish I knew this before making my plans and booking tickets.I don't think you are ready to travel the world. You need some time to grow a thicker skin. If you think that you live in a land of no racist pigs, you are delusional. And while you are blaming the Thais, the situation is solely due to your brothers from India. So do the right thing and show the Thais that all Indians are not the same. In my 15+ years only one gogo in Pattaya made an unwelcome gesture. And I was looking through beer goggles at that time so I could be wrong.
Here's how we taught one of these low life Indians in Pattaya. Me and my friend had two lovelies with us and we met this group of five at an Indian restaurant. They got excited and asked how we got them, how much etc. Etc. (typical lowlife attitude. First time travel outside India and still having the MCP attitude). So we invited them to sit with us and one of the lovelies pulled out her cell and called one of her friend over. These Indians wet their pants and were drooling all over her. Anyway to cut a long story short, we ordered the best and most expensive dishes and wines. Then we four quietly got up and left them holding the bill. The third girl made her way outside, pretending to go to the toilet. Think it cost them a few thousand bahts.
So go over and see it for yourself first hand. It is not bad at all as it sounds on this board. In fact it is less than 2. However, don't go with the assumption that you will be discriminated. Then you will always find it, real or imagined. Go with a positive attitude and you will just do fine. If not, you can always take a short flight to Angeles City.
Snipped.
Were you the one I saw last night, looking like a young Scott Glenn, with the Ding Dong crazy dancer? LOL. She has very nice tit job. 30K for Collagen tits that look 95% real. Only very faintly suspicious. Not at all like the obvious silicone jobs.
Snipped.
Be careful. Many girls are rather young!
Snipped.Well, young probably not, but yes, I was with a lady with very enhanced Nom. And believe you me, I am aware there are young stuff there. I always ask to see their I'd.
I am extremely sensitive to racistic attitude and it kills my mood. No sex is worth if you get insulted. Its degrading yourself and no one deserves that. Especially after taking a trip from USA to BKK and with wallet full of money ready to spend on these girls.
What a irony. I wish I knew this before making my plans and booking tickets.Hey Buddy,
No Worries, I also been to Thailand couple of times and never faced any issues with Pubs & Go Go es etc. I am an Indian BTW. I traveled solo and been to all the Pubs in Bangla Road in Phuket and had good time with the girls there. Even if you are a American brought up Indian or Singaporean Indian they just consider us as normal Indians. They don't care your passport color. You have to be clean and be confident, since you knows Hindi I assume you are white. Approach the girls and get some drinks for them (choose wisely) , and enjoy your good time. Also, always choose low season to keep up your chances high.
The night is still young; All the best for your trip! I will be there in Pats this 25 onwards!
Regards / G
Still had a bit of time before I had to go to airport so arrived at Doll House at 8PM. Looking for Naam to see if she had recovered from being away sick. No sign of her after away several days. Watched the nude dancers. No. 12 had a jaw droppingly high taunt and perfect ass, slim body, light skin and small but high A tits. Called her over for a drink. Soon she mentioned she would have to get up to dance again. I would have none of it. So offered to BF Noi immediately for ST. We took the room upstairs as I had limited time left.
Face 7. 5, body 9, GFE 9, BBBJ 7. 5, general sex 10. Imagine how great the doggy was with such an incredible ass. Tight pussy so had to work on gradually expanding her. She was right into the DATY and enjoyed it slow and deep. Pussy muscles massaged my cock brilliantly.
Great value 2k ST.
Overall score 8. 5. Very definite repeat will take her LT next time. A very experienced girl. Disappointment impossible. I think she has many regulars so I was lucky to get there early.
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